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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
At first I thought this might be pretty crappy but realize I might be able to save some money. Of course people with unlimited data don't want to hear it but there are plenty of people without that.

For people who get discounts, wonder if it will be taken of the monthly device fee as well as the data fee. Right now my discount gets applied to my monthly plan and any data plan from the 5 gigs and up. So I got in on the double data and pay $39 for 10 gigs after discount. My wife has the $30 dollar plan with 4 gigs because of the double data.

I usually average about 4 gigs, never broke 5 before and my wife does not even break 1 gig. We only get 700 minutes talk and we come very close each month to it. Sometimes I have to tell my wife to slow down towards the end of the month,

My discount is 22%. Without a discount and the 10 gig shared plan it would be $180. If I can get a discount on the whole thing it would def. be worth it for me to switch. We would be losing 4 gigs between the 2 of us but that would not be an issue anyway. I know if I call Verizon and ask I will probably get 5 different answers.

So if anyone knows or here's anything of how discounts will be applied please share!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
They will discount data, but NOT device fees.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TiltedAz:
I'll weigh-in on the side that the new plan SUCKS. There's no advantage for most users. They're adding a package deal but still nickle and diming with pricey $40 smartphone device fees.

I hope it opens the door for no-contract companies to offer even better packages.

Not sure which way we'll go. My wife's 2 yr contract expires in sept so we'll probably buy a new phone early and pay the slight prorated penalty in order to keep her unlimited data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Yeah, that would just make these plans a waste for me. Would end up running me $20 more if that was the case with 4 less gigs a month. Right now for $20 more a month I could get bumped to the 1200 (or something like that plan) and have 20 friends and family and keep 14 gigs of data between the 2 phones.

So yeah, nothing good coming out of this. Unless they run a double data promo on these plans. Then it might make it worth it for some people to jump.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] firelightx:
$40 is exactly the amount it costs currently to add a smartphone to a family plan. $10 line access + at least $30 for data. That part did not change.

That said, the price for basic phones has gone up 200% Less thrilled about that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
It doesn't even look like they are adding an incentive for unlimited users to consider a new contract. Unless I missed something, they aren't even offering a double data promo for unlimited users.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
That's just for the access, now, though. You pay for the data ON TOP of that $40. That's the problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
nope. they are giving us the middle finger, so when my contract is up, i will give them the middle finger.

this plan i was hoping would save me some money, but it will end up costing about $50/mo more to have it based on the data usage and the phones on my current family plan.

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then you have to tack on the at least $50/mo for 1GB of data.

vzw will be rolling in money if a good chunk of their customer base moves to this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] firelightx:
I will admit I'm very shocked about that. It's a strange marketing move, to pull a "sorry about your luck" routine. As a salesman, my only ammunition for spinning that positively is to tell customers not to sign another contract. The very contract Verizon pays me money to convince people to sign. It's... unfortunate.

I had been expecting something more like $80 for 10 gigs, seeing as that's how much they charged 1 line for 10 gigs previously. A $20 price difference would have been the difference between this being the best received plan change in recent history, vs. what we have here now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
I will say, reading over it again, that apparently the standalone data plans will still be an option:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Wonder what it is like in the Verizon board room when they are coming up with this BS!

Let's see. We are already the most expensive carrier around so how can we even find another way of charging more and giving even less?

OOOOOhhhhhhhhh I know, lets come up with a shared data plan. Charge a **** load of money for it but say it is what the people want and a great deal for families. Most of the American public will eat this **** up and by the time they realize they are paying even more money and getting less for it they would have to pay $350 to break their contract and we know they won't do that.

My golly, what a great f'n idea! You just earned an extra $500,000 bonus on top of your already 2 million dollar bonus plus 4 million dollar sallery. The next person who can find a way to even take away more and charge for it gets double then that! Now get to work fellas and let's see how we can make ourselves even richer! Where else are these people going to go, to Sprint.....hahahahahahahahahahaha! Little secret fellas. My good friend Dan Hesse even has a Verizon account! I told him we won't take away his unlimited data. He was very happy to hear that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bleach168:
More true than you would think. Verizon stock went up today.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ryanpetris:
Ill actually be benefiting from the new plan changes. Here's my current setup:

- 3 smartphones w/ unlimited data , unlimited text, 1400 shared minutes, and unlimited tethering (1 phone) - ~$250 (before fees but after 15% discount)

- 1 iPad - $30 (2GB data)

- Toktumi - $15 (to avoid going over minutes some months)

Total: $295

We use ~7GB a month across everything, but I'm going to sign up for 10GB so there's a little padding.

New plan:

- 3 smartphones - $120

- 1 iPad - $10

- 10GB data - $100

- No need for Toktumi anymore

Total: $230

So switching to the new plans will save me $65 per month ($780 per year), which will be more when my 15% discount is applied to the new plans.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akellar:
Corporate discounts typically only get applied to the minutes portion as they consider the data a feature add on. If that continues to be the case then everyone will also be getting less of a corporate discount as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
My corporate discount works on any data plan 5 gigs and up so every company is different with what gets discounted.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
In this case, its applied to data but not devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idefiler6:
I have been with Verizon for 10 years. Loyally. I've gotten them at least 2 dozen referrals, including the company I work for. This is my last year.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Southern_mind:
This is crazy. My wife and I will go with out a upgrade until they kick us out. We use our unlimited data as that unlimited. And it would be more if we got one one of the new plans anyways so over the long run we are saving money.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hlaalu:
I'm rocking unlimited 4g, but I will go elsewhere if they take that away. I don't care how big verizon thinks they are, if they keep getting greedy people will leave. Especially with more and more towers popping up, I think not getting service is going to be a thing of the past very soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Aridon:
People that find this a good deal are:

1. Paying for texting.

2. Pay for tablets

LOL who the hell pays for that anyway? Hot spot the tablet and google voice for texting. Saves you a ton of money.

I have 5 lines with AT&T

4 smart phones with the correct data plan and 1 dumb phone. $205 per month.

1 line with Verizon 450 min 4 gb data $65

All prices include all taxes and corporate discounts.

Screw these new plans and their prices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] davefromohio:
The part about said company not discontinuing any current services I don't understand, when I first signed with Verizon got a new discounted phone every year, then every two, now none if I wanna keep my plan, so isn't that changing my service? I've had my nexus two months now and both months ended up at 10-12gig no tethering just a lot of high def YouTube and Lotta apps so new plan a no go for me
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
If Verizon offered 1 year phone upgrades to people on the new share plan I would let them f'k my a little with their new pricing.

What is funny is that Sprint posts almost a billion dollar lose for the last qtr and they do not raise their prices and still offer unlimited data. Verizon shows huge profit for the last qtr and then turns around and raises their already high prices even more?

Verizon must be run by Republicans while Sprint Democrats? That is the only logical answer I can think of. Otherwise this makes no f'n sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mwalt2:
I'll probably be going gsm once my contact is up. A $400 nexus from google with no contact seems pretty good to me, considering we paid $250 with a two year contract.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Can someone who knows about these pre-paid phones that people keep talking about give some info on that. Like what phones can you use? What kind of service do you get and is it GSM or CDMA? What are data speeds like, etc.

Thanks.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
Verizon has Page Plus prepaid

40$ Unlimited,Talk Text,100 MB Data

55$ Unlimited Talk text ,1GB Data

T-Mobile:

Simple Mobile

40$

50$

60$

check them out http://www.mysimplemobile.com/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bL33d:
Verizon will lose customers. I think the only people benefiting will be sprint. I have 3 lines 2 with unlimited data and 1 feature phone. I will buy phones out right till I see a plan from sprint or att that I like.

I pay $30 a month for 10mb cable and $60 a month for 2 data lines and they feel the need to try and nickel and dime me... I will leave smart phones behind b4 I let a company screw me over.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhollis72:
I left Verizon last year because I had some regular phones on the plan that had unlimited internet and when I upgraded my main line they got rid of the unlimited internet on the basic phones. Pissed me off. Paid almost 900 in cancellation fees but well worth it. Now on T-Mobile with 4 smart phones with unlimited everything and pay less than Verizon for one smartphone with unlimited data and 3 basic phones with 75 mb of data and 1400 to share.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Can't see any XDA user getting away with 1mb of data, lol.

Now going with T-Mobile mobile or any other GSM carrier, doesn't their network usually suck? If I were to go back to a crappy network, I would probably just look at Sprint again. lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] opc3000:
I'm just going to start buying my phone outright. I'm a serial flasher with no wifi @ work and use well over 15g per billing cycle.

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....oh, i forgot to mention I'm on an unlimited plan :) and Verizon has the best coverage in my area sooooo, yeah. I'll be in verizon prison for a looong time.:(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
There's an entire thread for that : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1455014 GSM only, though

People on ST have been getting unlimited voice, text, and data (some reported going up to 6+ GB w/ no throttling/overage) for $45/mo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TiltedAz:
Found out my wife qualifies for a free phone upgrade even though she has a few months left on her 2 yr contract. So long as we make the move before Jun 28th, she can keep her the pseudo unlimited data plan for another 2 yrs and can upgrade to a GN. We'll hold off on dumping verizon for now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
Switching to AT&T next year to get the new Nexus. Hopefully pre-paid with LTE access.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Character Zero:
Going to see how this all plays out. My wife is the secondary phone on our family plan and just upgrade 3 months ago. We both have unlimited although she uses like 300 MB at most a month. I think if she wanted to use an upgrade in the future she would still be able to get like the 2GB plan for $30 right? I mean , this is the new family plan right? So if she upgraded and somehow the only option was this plan, I would be screwed too because I would be dragged along with her? I think its going to be used or full retail phones from here on out as long as I have unlimited. If they ever take that away, we will be out of contract anyway and I will see where the grass is greener.

But as an experiment I am seeing how much data I use if I am "good". I usually don't turn Wi-fi on when I get home so I stay on 4G almost all of the time, I want to see what a difference it would make turning on wi-fi when I could.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
A lot. I used to do the same and my usage dropped from 5gb a month to 1.6gb.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
Check their coverage at simplemobile website or t mobile website just put your zipcode and see what is your coverage there :)

I already had AT&T and moved to VZW so hopefully they figure something out , my contract ends on 10/2013
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I only have ATT as a real choice for good coverage other than Verizon.

Tmo has dead spots here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] firelightx:
The 2GB for $30 will still be an option, which means your wife can upgrade without affecting your unlimited.

I have a suspicion, though it will be difficult to test, because I have to find a guinea pig willing to live with the consequences if this doesn't work. that one could theoretically, say... upgrade their wife's phone, then do an ESN swap to put the phone on their number, and still keep unlimited.

It's going to be... difficult to test. First I have to wait for the changes to go live. Then I get to try and find a guinea pig willing to lose unlimited if it doesn't work. Hmm. I will happily report back with the good/bad news if I can get someone willing to try this at work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JayDaKissEP:
I'm going to benefit from this. Me and my wife share the 700 minutes and have 4 GB's each. We both have the GNEX. I'll use 2GB's roughly at the most and she will only use around 1 GB. My main concern was minutes. We have to monitor them each month as she will always go over them and she forced to not use her phone. Free Voice and Text and sharing 4GB's for $150 will be cheaper and better for us. I have 21% discount too from work. Only worry is if we start using more data, i'll up the data to 6 GB's for an extra $10.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blackhand1001:
If their both lte phones you could just swap the sim cards.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
Right now my bill with tax is 118 for 10 Gb and this one phone (450 min and 1000 txt messages). I'm glad I got it before the promotion ended and i'll keep it and pay full price for upgrades if I have too
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] saryon1:
This! I'll be looking at Sprint I'm guessing. Their customer service has come a long way.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billykxda:
Sprint is a possibility for me too. This freak'in new plan will cost me $100 more a month, and for that, I get nothing extra.

What other business can get away with this crap?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tehgyb:
Dude, the new plans are actually cheaper for me, and that's coming from a 700 minute plan with 2GB of data per line.

My two phones cost me 160/mo. With the new plan I'll be paying 140/mo.

3 lines with data, unltd text and 700 minutes costs you 200. On this new plan, you will get unlimited talk and text, with 4GB of shared data for 190. What's the issue? Obviously people who are data hogs will be more expensive...

If you use more data than me, then you deserve to pay more, simple as that.

The average user only uses 672mb anyway.

Ooh and free hotspot for smartphones on the plans... If you ask me it's a good deal.

Btw, ATT will be following suit shortly, meaning everyone else will be too, watch.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
if I was you, I would remove the 1k texts , block it , and use GOOGLE VOICE :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oldblue910:
That's all fine and well until you need to send or receive a picture message or a text from a nonstandard phone number.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] firelightx:
You won't have to resort to full price.

The current style of plans will now be considered Grandfather plans. Which means, you will never lose them unless you specifically ask to switch (or are taken by a shady rep). You can upgrade your phone and keep the bill exactly as it is. You can add lines to them for the typical $9.99 as always, with data packages of $30, $50, or $80 per line to choose from. To those who have it, you can keep it indefinitely.

The ONLY thing that will not be honored going forward is unlimited data. And to those of you who truly need it, I am sorry. The unfortunate truth is that even Sprint is not long for it anymore. If they ever do away with Dan Hesse (which becomes more likely every quarter) the new CEO will likely ditch unlimited within a month. I might recommend adapting your lifestyle to using less of Verizon's data where possible. Start making use of Wifi whenever available and see how that affects your usage. Sideload 20 GB of music and use that instead of Pandora. I'm not saying it's ideal, and I'm not saying you should like it. But I'd be curious to see how many people could manage to use less internet per month and still use the phone for the things they like to use.

I also found out that the current plans will NOT be available to new customers, single line or no. However, family plans looking to add a line and keep the grandfather plan will be able to.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unremarked:
^^^ All of this is exactly right. Only other thing I would add is that if you have the Double Data plans, you get to keep those and move up/down within those tiers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] firelightx:
I don't know. The trainings I went through this morning said rather specifically that new customers would only have the new pricing to choose from.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tehgyb:
Same here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unremarked:
I've been corrected this morning too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billykxda:
It all really depends on your situation. For me, I do not *need* unlimited data, as 2-4GB/month/phone seems to be where my family usage occurs. But with 5 lines, and being in a "forever" promotional plan, this new plan will cost me in excess of $100 a month, with no extra value.

Since I am not interested in dealing with unsubsidized phones, it's enevitable that I'll need to move off my plan when somebody in my family wants to upgrade hardware. If I can negotiate a similar deal as I have now with VZW, I'm in. Otherwise, it's another carrier with the best price/value for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Verizon will lose a lot of customers over this no doubt. There are so many 2gb no contract plans out there now, its just better to drop Verizon. I dumped Verizon a month ago for Straight Talk Att and couldn't be happier. And if end up not liking Straight Talk for some reason I can shop around for best carrier each month.

No greedy carrier BS, no ETF, no contract, all with a GSM Nexus....freedom!

Sent from my Google Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] firelightx:
I don't see any reason why you wouldn't be able to keep your plan. You'll lose the unlimited, of course, but if you're okay with $30 for 2GB instead of $30 for unlimited, the price will stay exactly the same as you're used to.

I'm curious what your plan is, though. With the new plan, 5 smartphones with 10 gigs to share is an even $300. Under the old plan, 5 smartphones with the lowest minutes available was $280. Ironic because the sole idea of this new structure was to make it cheaper for 5 people to do all smartphones (though technically I guess they could, at $250... though with only 1 gig to share amongst them that would suck) but still, it's not a $100 price difference that I've heard a couple people throw around.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
Thanks for the tip... Good call.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oldblue910:
Just make sure you don't ever need to send or receive picture messages and don't ever need to receive text messages from social networking sites (like some people get text notifications from Facebook). As long as you don't need MMS, don't need to be able to send and receive texts from nonstandard phone numbers (28361 for example), and don't mind having to give everyone in your contacts a new phone number to reach you, Google Voice is a great option.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
The guy above me has a good point, however I am at least 50% sure if you ask them nicely to block TXT's completely they will do it, tell them you have no need for texting anymore, get a google voice number give them to your friends and use data for texting, on my account this is not possible because everyone texts a lot and I won't bother to my other lines and tell them to use google voice if you know what I mean, but in your situation you can save like this! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slimb9:
so if my girlfriend has a 3g unlimited plan and i buy her a 4g phone at retail price will she keep unlimited data? this is the only thing i am confused about. she doesnt care that much about 4g, but her dinc is getting beat up and i figured i would be a nice guy:)

or would i have to buy her a 3g phone at retail price to make sure she kept the unlimited?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
Up until June 28, you can buy a subsidized 4G phone and keep the unlimited data. Past that point, you're SOL, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slimb9:
so since she is on a 3g unlimited plan still there is no way to buy a phone at full price (after june) without her getting screwed over by big red? even a 3g phone and just activating that device online would make her jump to a tiered or shared pland?

that is wack.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
No, after June 28 you can swap phones all you like and stay on unlimited 3G, you just won't get a subsidy (i.e. you'd pay full price or buy used). If she gets a 4G phone though, she won't be able to swap to it or she'll have to switch to a metered plan. If she can get on a 4G phone before June 28 she can keep unlimited data on 4G.

Confused yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slimb9:
nope. i was confused by your first reply since you just metioned 4g. i figured as much about the switch from 3g to 4g. hit thanks and thanks for the fast replies.