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[Nexus One General] the_house:
CM9 News

And from a followup a few hours later:

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+Ricardo Cerqueira sat down with XDA recently for a developer interview

To piggy back on our comment about the N1 and CTS, Ricardo describes why we don't just shrug off that requirement.

Because it opened a can of worms that can’t be closed again. Getting it to work needed some very ugly workarounds that directly go against Google’s compatibility document for ICS. An app developer targeting ICS as a minimal version for his apps has the right to expect some functionality to be guaranteed on a device that claims to be ICS, that wasn’t (and isn’t) true for ICS builds with these hacks. That’s one the main reasons CM9 does not officially include a bunch of devices that are “working.”

...and some users understand that, but a lot don’t, and they’ll submit error reports on those apps, or they’ll rate it badly at the Play store. This is not a hypothetical scenario, it has happened whether we like it or not, asked for it or not, CM’s userbase is large enough to matter, even if you don’t count derivatives. We have a responsibility not to cause that kind of grief to app developers and we did. With all the mostly bull**** talk about fragmentation, we actively contributed to a break in the platform, no matter how small. That’s not a good thing :X People SHOULD know these builds contain hacks, but you’ve surely realized by now that they don’t

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[Nexus One General] charlie_su1986:
so.... is that ever gonna get rectified :confused:
[Nexus One General] dookie23:
I wonder what are the hacks he mentioned in the post. Was it the hboot hack, m2sd hack or swap partition...etc?
[Nexus One General] Kannibalism:
what is all the fuss about CM9 not releasing a rom officially when we have quite a few talented devs that have already given us the choice of running a near perfect ICS Rom on our nexus one?

EDIT: BCM offers CM9 features, AOKP offers us users the choice of AOKP features and texasice rom has a twist of its own features to. I do not see a problem with CM not releasing an official rom :)
[Nexus One General] dookie23:
Don't get me wrong, I love seeing the talented devs make awesome progress on kang'ing CM9 and things are coming together nicely. What I am getting at is not whether Cyanogenmod is releasing a CM9 rom officially for the Nexus One, but it's what Ricardo Cerqueira said about the hacks breaking Google CTS. This could mean that apps might not run or worse yet, FC's for no reason.

Now, the real questions are, what are these hacks Ricardo was talking about and is that gonna get rectified?
[Nexus One General] Kannibalism:
the hacks they talk about could be small stuff like ta camera fix etc since vendors do not always release new drivers.I would say that the nexus one is using a few hacks for drivers in order to make everything work better
[Nexus One General] decoherent:
I suspect it's a combination, both messing with HBOOT partition sizes (which is not a *bad* thing, but involves a lot more risk than just flashing a new ROM) and the nasty driver hacks that the poor dev's have had to do to try to working around the lack of a Broadcom driver, since they saw fit to release neither a driver nor sufficient documentation. It's hard to see how either could be overcome for an "official" CM9 release. I feel like it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem; with sufficient dev attention things could probably be brought into acceptable shape, but unofficial ports will never have sufficient dev attention.

Disclaimer: I really appreciate all the work that's been done by everyone on all the community ROMs. It's a hard, often thankless job, whether you're debugging mystery driver issues on an older phone or trying to coordinate a release for dozens of different devices with angry, impatient fans. While I'd love to have an official, flawless ICS ROM, at least we get more love from the community than we did from Google :)
[Nexus One General] Kannibalism:
I agree with this post i would put the blame on google for not pushing the vendors for the broadcom drivers since android is open source after all but once again great works by our devs and thanks for letting us experience the latest versions of android on our devices

EDIT: i must admit that i have better devices to use than the nexus one but the community keeps me coming back for more
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bikelover1352:
Hello,

Is there any way to take pix while taking a video??

Thanks,

Nitin Aswani
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brockyneo:
Unless there is an app on play store which I haven't seen then no I'm afraid not
[HTC Desire S] Deleted member 4123551:
:DWelcome, to SenseMOD FlashVille!:D

SenseMOD is a collaboration between Floatshow, htc-phones, and me, djpbx.

No-nonsense, just good ROMs with Sense :p

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[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
SenseMOD FlashVille V

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[HTC Desire S] Floatshow:
SenseMOD FlashVille

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[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Nice work and also nice collaboration! But I'm slightly confused. Do they all contain full sense elements?
[HTC Desire S] Deleted member 4123551:
Yup. V is primo based with full sense 4 parts, and S is villec2 based, which is full sense 4 :p

Though we're still working on S. its coming when its done ;-)
[HTC Desire S] BWA80:
Hi!

Sounds good!

Can we have the LeeDroid tweaks, or something similar?

It would be nice addition.

Thanks!
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
tweaks dont work yet we will impliment them later on in the release's i am planning on building my own tweaks anyways
[HTC Desire S] Tik_Tak:
hey, great work guys!

so the 2 versions are very similar, what are the differences then? (except the non resized apps)

and general question about the speed, are the v roms faster then the s, or not a noticeable difference?
[HTC Desire S] 68olegna:
Can't add apps too homescreen dock.
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
Please Read:

Im going to set the Rules of this Thread out Now.

1. Do Not post off topic (Unless given permission by the team )

2. Do not come into this thread and spam ( your posts will be reported )

3. Dont expect to come into our thread and insult any member of this team.

we are only here to give you end user's somthing HTC wont. This is not a job we dont get paid for it.

If you do think about insulting us. ask yourself this question. if u think we are crap why are you looking at our thread second if you think we are crap go port or build your own rom if you think your so great

Please take no offence to the decent people in this community but there will always be the few who try to spoil things :).
[HTC Desire S] ammenRA:
I know asking for ETA is a no no but I'm skipping school today so I'm holding you guys morally responsible to bring the Flashville S today :D
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
Not ganna happen sorry. Still loads of re sizing for me to do mate
[HTC Desire S] ammenRA:
Ok Flashville V it is. Thank you for all of your hard work.
[HTC Desire S] nodeffect:
Great job guys, hopefully will fix all the bugs soon.... Keep up the good work!...
[HTC Desire S] rizmdee:
Any version of HBOOT reqired? :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Nice ROM guys, but my download is painfully slow. Could you please provide another mirror, since no one else is allowed to??
[HTC Desire S] Deleted member 4123551:
I'll mirror it on XFS soon ;)
[HTC Desire S] 68olegna:
Sorry for early pushing but is that just me? After clean install there is no dialer in the dock and there is no way to put it in. Also the dock looks a bit tiny or the overall dpi has been minimized.

In the appdrawer I can see only the top of the apps in the bottom line.

But the rest looks really nice!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Nope, it's a known issue. It won't be fixed till we get a software to edit M10s, which won't happen very soon. Meanwhile, use this guide - http://bit.ly/LUFp9C

EDIT: FlashVille V is by far the best full Sense 4 experience on any ROM. Of course, it's still not good enough for daily use without the Primo Rosie (which, IMO has no point) but it's better than all others, and at you're speed, I'm sure you'll fix this too ;) Plus, you seem to have mutual help from Quinny899, and his DHD team, who are also making great progress.
[HTC Desire S] vaaly:
Can I remove the "option button" present in non-HTC apps?
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
yes we have got help from DHD dev's :) hopefuly we can get this sutible for daily use very soon :P
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
UPDATE:

Right all etempts at decompiling full sense 4 rosie.apk on my windows 8 PC has failed. so im just settings up ubuntu on my other PC and ill do it on there. as its much easyer.
[HTC Desire S] miz_pimp:
I'll be waiting for the mirror, as my download keeps failing; been trying to download since last night.
[HTC Desire S] :
Looking for that one too though, lol just saw it while using xda app :p

Going to dig in it for you guys.

Mirror uploading....
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Isn't removing that menu button just a line in the build.prop? Can't remember it off the top of my head but remember seeing it in fallout.
[HTC Desire S] maerdance:
i'm missing my htc widgets after installing oneV-rosie.

all except clockwidget. permission fixing and appdata-reseting as expected couldn't solve this.

doesn't seem to be a sense4a/sense4 incopatibilitiy cause nobody else mentions this.

..äh, did anybody else combine them successful?
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
what menu button mate ??? the one on homescreen ?
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
The one which comes up in certain apps. I thought it's been removed already.
[HTC Desire S] :
Here's a mirror ;-)

http://xdafileserver.com/index.php?dir=HTC/Desire+S/SenseMod+FlashOne/FlashVille

came across this build.prop line when working on the S version of this rom.

not near my phone now but maybe you guys can add this to the build.prop and see if it removes the pesky sw menu button

qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
no no issues with my install mate. i can flash full sense 4 rosie and lite 4 rosie over and over i never loose widgets that probly means u might have deleted some system apps ? if u did u must have deleted the widgets. i can also recomend u to install the rom again then flash the sense 4a rosie right after flashing the rom dont let it boot up untill u flashed the old rosie and tell me what happens :) this should fix your issue mate
[HTC Desire S] vaaly:
I've installed the V rosie immediately after flashed the rom but there aren't any htc widget, except the clock one..

That's line works fine!
[HTC Desire S] maerdance:
no,systemapps still there where they have to. had the same issue when combined cooldroid(sense4with sense4a apps and launcher) with the apps of the pyrosomething rom where all those 1.generation hdpi-resized sense4apps where coming from.

well,gonna try again with fresh flash.

and anyways, thx 4 for your general and specific effort to give us things that make us happier.
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
okay try a clean install( wipe all partitions apart from sdcard ) that will ensure a proper wipe has taken place. and upto now your the only person with this problem. if u have modded the rom ( taken things out and put things in ) then please dont submit bug reports as theem bugs could have been caused by yourself :) and no problem thats why we are here developing :)
[HTC Desire S] maerdance:
Well,I didn't mod your Rom and I certainly wiped and formatted all partitions.

but doesn't matter.I flashed over your sense4 3d-rosie, got widgets back. everything's fine now.

and even the extendedquicksettings mod for flashone Rom are working (they had to,same systemUI I think?)

But lost my app-overview via longpresshome :)
[HTC Desire S] miz_pimp:
I don't have all the extra widgets after flashing Rosie Lite either; such as the 4x1 clock widget. I haven't changed anything either, so it must be that the widgets aren't compatible with Rosie Lite?
[HTC Desire S] :
Ill update the old primo Rosie zip tomorrow with the primo widgets ;)
[HTC Desire S] miz_pimp:
Seriously?! You can do that?! You guys rock! :D
[HTC Desire S] :
yeah of couse. it would only be a matter of adding the FlashONE widget apk's to the zip (and some perms i think?):p
[HTC Desire S] miz_pimp:
Will that include the 4x1 clock widget? That's the main widget I'm really looking forward to using. :D
[HTC Desire S] :
the 4x1 clock is a full sense 4 feature:mad:

so if you wawnt to use it you got to wait untill htc-phones finished resizing on rosie ;)
[HTC Desire S] miz_pimp:
Lol, I know, that's why I got so excited when you said you were gonna add the widgets! :p And in my excitement I totally misread your previous post :o

I'll be waiting patiently :D
[HTC Desire S] kylon:
we can use flashville s?
[HTC Desire S] 68olegna:
Some locksrceens like weather and productivity don´t work right.

Also the sms counter on lockscreen does not go no zero after reading them.

Had to reboot after 2 sms arrived, wasn´t able to unlock but screen didn´t freeze.
[HTC Desire S] du_ku:
thank you this rom.

but I can`t find SIMToolkit please include it in next version.

I can`t add phone icon to bottom panel (I do not know how it called)

when I flashed rom with old_rosie.zip I can`t find MANY widgets I used in other sence roms. (small calendar, peoples, settings widgets, ...)
[HTC Desire S] 68olegna:
Here you go.
[HTC Desire S] :
we are aware of the widgets, but it is though possible to add phone to bottom panel (at least with primo launcher) just drag and drop the phone icon from the launcher to the bottom panel ;)

will add SIM Toolkit to the next v! ;)
[HTC Desire S] :
nope. busy porting it ;)
[HTC Desire S] du_ku:
I know how it must be/to do.

but I can`t icon jump out form bottom panel and I can`t remove from home screen even. If I drag and drop other icons from bottom panel I can`t put it back.
[HTC Desire S] :
which launcher are you using One V (the additional flashable zip) or one S one?
[HTC Desire S] du_ku:
I download it from http://xdafileserver.com/index.php?dir=HTC/Desire+S/SenseMod+FlashOne/FlashVille make full wipe and flash form recovery. I don`t use any other files. But if I flashed old_rosie.zip all work perfect except widgets.
[HTC Desire S] :
im working on the widgets, but my main PC is now updating to windows 8 so when it' s done ill test if my newly made zip works.
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
Update:

I am having troubles with this rosie.apk. it just wont decompile the whole way :( and even if i can get it decompiled it dont compile properly again. it isnt the changes im making either because i decompiled it and straight away compiled it again without changing anything and i just get error after error.

the tool we all know and love ( Virtuous ten studio ) cannot decompile the apk's because sense 4 apk dont have the public.xml and it wont decompile without the public.xml being there. i have tryed to modifie VTS to accept it without the public.xml but then it wont decompile at all :( i really need this issue sorted in order for me to be able to re size it properly anyone got any idea's ?
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Yup. Upload the APK for me and I'll test. If it works, I'll upload my apktool setup. If not, we use the one in flashville s, i can decompile that ;)
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
right the rosdie.apk in flashville v can u decompile and send me it then ill re size then send u it back to compile it again ? thanks mate
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Lol, why don't i just upload my apktool setup :p:p:p Wait a minute, I'll ZIP it and upload

EDIT: Here it is. Please delete the apktool folder in C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME and then install framework-res.apk and com.htc.resources.apk (apktool if framework-res.apk) before you decompile anything ;)
[HTC Desire S] htc-phones:
Thank shrome99 for getting this decompiled as without him i would still be stuck :D thanks again mate :D

Edit:

I have now re sized dockbar and other things Aston as u have got it.ready for picking widgets properly and that we will give you all new update.
[HTC Desire S] nikhil007mmus:
Actually Look out for the new apktool.jar v 1.4.5 .. It will perfectly decompile apk's !!
[HTC Desire S] Metallurgico:
So each ROM has full Sense 4.0 but the One S one has not all resized yet?
[HTC Desire S] :
nope, FlashVille V uses one V rom as base, and FlashVille S uses One S rom as base.

I'm thinking about a more hybrid ROM now. So that we just have one version.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Hey guys, it would be a pretty nice add-on to provide just the Sense 4 lockscreen to Sense 4A ROMs. That is pretty easy (Quinny899 made a video of this a long time ago, we can ask him how). He couldn't however, get the lockscreen option to appear in Personalize, so even with the full Sense 4 lockscreen, it was just the wallpaper. If we can manage to set the weather lockscreen as default in the lockscreen, it would be pretty easy to create a flashable ZIP. Anyone have any idea how to do this??
[HTC Desire S] :
have you tried taking CustomizationSetup.apk (and its provider) from full sense 4?
[HTC Desire S] nitsuj17:
its not customizationsetup, its a mod in the jars to define what version of sense "sense4a or sense 4.0" you are using...that enables the lockscreen menu and cube animation

you still then need the lockscreenapks
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Cooldroid just fixed the Sense 4 Recent Apps. Could you please update your ROM?

PS - htc-phones, how's Rosie resizing going? You guys didn't forget us with all your new devices, did you?? :p:p:p
[HTC Desire S] Floatshow:
No of course we didn't forget you !

But we hardly know what's the better way to resize the apps, so we're working on it.

Things will go faster once we will have resized the launcher. :)
[HTC Desire S] AlexODrums:
What's new in v2.0 ? :)
[HTC Desire S] Floatshow:
Check there : http://sensemod.blogspot.nl
[HTC Desire S] vaaly:
Wifi doesn't work ):
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
if you are HTC-Dev unlocked, you need to flash the boot.img separately. This may be the issue.......
[HTC Desire S] :
no, though not. i have the same issue myslf :silly:. Looked over it while testing i think... Probably because of the new base.

Going to dive into this right now.
[HTC Desire S] Floatshow:
v2.0.1 update !

See there :

http://sensemod.blogspot.fr
[HTC Desire S] Floatshow:
Hello everyone !

As you may know (or no), we recently resumed work on this.

We changed our approach for this ROM. From now on, we won't use One S stuff directly, but we will base this on the rock-solid FlashONE, which is way more stable. Then we'll try to get closer to Full Sense 4 from One V base, by modding framework files.

We'll keep you updated !
[HTC Desire S] eternalfrozen:
it is a lost that you guys discontinue to the full sense4 development:crying:

however i will still try on this rom and provide feedback soon:good:
[HTC Desire S] :
eh we are not discontiniuing full sense 4 mate :p we're only going to use FlashONE as base instead of porting from One S . makes things a lot easier for us, and you get the same (or even better) result!
[HTC Desire S] eternalfrozen:
i have almost all sense 4 rom in this forum....those so called full sense 4 are not perfect enough.i doubted if our desire s can stand for full sense 4:(

but still i hope there is a real full sense 4 rom releasing from you guys soon...my device is always ready to flash your rom:good:

appreciate your rom :fingers-crossed:
[HTC Desire S] glacier1122:
a little confused here, when i open the rom.zip , i dont see boot.img in main directory ,like other roms,, but i see a folder named kernel ,which has three different folders ,all of them have boot.img. which one to flash with fastboot ? im S-ON (unloked with htcdev)
[HTC Desire S] Floatshow:
The one in SAGA folder. Saga stands for Desire S. :)
[HTC Desire S] like.that:
can't donload the rom

create a mirror pls
[HTC Desire S] deltateam:
;( link dont work,..
[HTC Desire S] :
we discontiniued all our sense 4 work. Use fallout, cooldroid or nik project X instead. :good:

Yeah. we lost motivatioin on the project. AOSP is something more interesting for us.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ttrain721:
My wifes phone is broke(no insurance) and our contracts are up. She doesn't want to wait for the GS3 so...... EVO lte or GS2? I have the GS2 and love it but not to knowledgeable on the new EVO.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackhorses777:
That's a really tough one. i really like the EVO LTE but i love my E4GT alot more. i honestly dont care for the gs3 much, but i havent played with it like i have the evo. i would deff stick with the gs2 but its all in personal preference. There all really good choices so either way your getting a sweet phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ralphie1:
two great phone to choose from a friend has the evo lte and its fast I like my e4gt but I think i would recommend the evo lte just because your going to be with it two yrs. on contract maybe Pittsburg gets lte in the mean time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
And don't forget the insurance this time. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ttrain721:
Already done.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zero Night:
It is a close match but I don't regret not waiting for the EVO 4g LTE. I am very happy with the Epic 4g Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TheChosenGuy:
EVO 4G LTE. The only downside to that phone, IMO, is the locked bootloader. It's also almost future-proof with the LTE chip inside.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ttrain721:
Does anyone know when Pittsburgh is up for lte?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] peanut1596:
The gs3 is one week away... I'd say wait. But that's just me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rbtrucking:
I would agree with this especially if you have any type of spare phone you can use in the meantime. If not I know how hard it is without a phone so if ya cant wait go for the evo. I was at the sprint store the other day playing with it, and it really is a nice phone plus it has beats audio and a very good build quality.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SSickLS2:
I couldnt see buying a 4g phone when there are 4g LTE phones available. I just "bought up" in my Sprint contract to purchase either the S3 or the Evo LTE. Current plan is to sell my S2 and wait for the S3 to come out so that I can take her for a spin before I sign another 2 year...

As somebody else mentioned, either way she is getting a nice device.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] monkeybone12:
I love every aspect of the EPIC 4G touch, but if I lived where 4Glte would be, I would snag up the Evo. I'm happy with my 3G speeds and bad ass hardware.

Good luck.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ttrain721:
She got the evo lte because if she waits the world will implode if she doesn't have a phone. I know I'll be getting the S3 and she'll be *****ing how my phone is better, happens all the time. I just hope Pittsburgh gets lte in a reasonable time.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fryingpan0613:
You have the 14 day exchange policy, so just swap them when the gs3 comes out...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
I remember looking at leaked LTE roll out waves and unfortunately Pittsburgh doesn't seem to have made the cut :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xTmDarren:
I have the EvoLTE and my wife is getting the SG3.. of course it hasn't even came to the house yet and she already wants to switch with me because of the physical camera button at the top.. Either way IDC.. I'm a big Sammy guy anyways.. But according to the reviews here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/3 your wife might just have the better phone.. I know the scores were pushed mostly bc the UI. But maybe that extra gig of ram might be to much wiggle room for the s4 and is causing the scores to drop a few points in these benchmarks.. Of course the multitasking should be better..