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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
This is not trolling. This is reality.

Im an android fanboy but this tablet made me think about switching to an ipad on more than one occasion....

This tablet has been out for more than 6 months and it still isnt stable! And it performs bad in some areas (IO for the most part)

If there werent workarounds such as browser2ram, cfq scheduler, sqlite patch and androwook i would have thrown this thing out of my window!

Ok asus is working on a fix ... they released .28 to sattisfy the people who were waiting for several months for a fix .. but things got worse for some people..

Lets wait for the .28.5 or .29... last chance for asus to get things right ...

At least i hope it will bring NVflash so i can recover this thing to stock-state to sell it!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Nope, it hasn't since launch.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gremlin001:
**partial copy and paste of my recent post in another thread**

Currently running .28 on 64 gig atp, rooted (thanks sparky), browser2cpu (thanks onionknight), Adaway (thanks to its dev), ezoverclock (thanks demandrin for suggesting it - dunno who the dev is but thanks as well).

Having "installed" or ran those pieces genius I can honestly say my prime has never run better. I am using the stock browser without any issues. Being retired gives me a lot of time to spend with my tab on web and I do.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phoenix573:
I have the apks for the dev tools that are loaded onto the asus dev test image if anyone is keen? I'm not sure if it will help the devs much, but let me know and I'll try to post them somewhere.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
i would say; gogo post them into a new thread in the dev forum!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phoenix573:
Hey Tempie007, I've taken your advice and created a Thread under the development section.

Guys have a look and let me know if it's useful:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27603180#post27603180
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jamesey10:
I have to amend my original review. Stock Browser ANR is just as bad as before. Somehow I didn't get the ANR's for a full day after upgrading to .28, but slowly over the following days it's back to normal levels. It's as if something was reset at first, but snowballed into a problem again. I continue to experience ANR on stock, chrome, and firefox. I don't get ANR on Opera.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Please enter your details in the thread below, it would really help Asus identify the issues.

thanks

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1720143
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
Thanks for the comments, I just needed to vent as well ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beekay201:
Been running .28 stock for a few days, here's what i've gone through so far (using the device, normally, apps like tapatalk, gmail, ted talks, browser, terminal ide):

- screen tearing is back (user installed apps i.e.: terminal ide, and system apps i.e. polaris office, while viewing a xlsx file)

- just noticed, my navigation bar keeps flickering-like, up and down, wth!!!

- wifi is a bit stronger (?), definately more stable (across a small room, prime now gets -55dBm, whereas my nexus gets -40dBm)

- had a few fcs on normal apps and about the browser, i don't use it for heavy browsing, but it seems it still lags a bit.

- rom feels faster in some areas, but then again, i don't use that many apps, but could definately see lagging with big files - xlsx for example

p.s: i must add that i factory reseted before updating (had to, was on HC)

sent from my tf201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yval8957:
.28 update

So far this update has improved on the issues that the tablet had before. Granted, I just installed it a few hours ago, but some of the improvements are quite noticeable. Browsing, specially on Chrome Beta, is much improved. Chrome is almost PC like, so much better than before. Dolphin still hangs a bit, but only for a very short period of time, much better than before. I've gone to multiple graphics heavy websites that I would have hated to have browsed before and now they load quicker and without hiccups (mainly with Chrome). UI in general is a bit quicker, less lag specially when switching from one task to another. Games run fine, as they did before. Wifi, not a great difference, hasn't been much of an issue for me at this point. Battery life is to be determined. Flash content loads well, a bit smoother than before. We'll see about the random reboots, which used to happen at least every other day, then again I use my Prime quite heavily. Like some poster before I wonder at he disparity in performance and issues with our tablets. I bought mine in April, waited on purpose to get the tablet and I really haven't had any major issues and thankfully the minor issues are somewhat better with this update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zaiden:
I can't take it

Has anyone attempted a full refund for their 5 month old Asus Prime?

I am completely fed up with this tablet. I should have returned this stupid thing day 1, but I just couldn't believe Asus wouldn't get it right. I will NEVER buy another Asus tablet for as long as I live. Every update brings more bugs. My tablet is back to being completely unusable due to this weird screen flicker thing in all my games, along with constant freezing. I want to unlock the bootloader and attempt CM9 nightly, but not if I can just return this dumb thing and wait for the Microsoft Surface or a better Android tablet.

Please let me know if anyone was successful in returning an Asus Prime. I bought mine day 1 of release.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] justcookiesncream:
Our primes have the ability to do what others can't, true enough

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LA0zVJeFA4&feature=g-upl
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clenz:
I have gotten a refund for my BOKAS model (and bought a C4). They will likely insist you go through an RMA 1st before they will even talk to you about refund, but it is possible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
Gary just updated his thread. One of the things her mentions is clearing the system cache:

".28 Firmware - Please clear your browser and system cache after performing the FOTA plus a full shutdown and reboot. It might clear up a few issues as the browser code and thread priority has changed."

Out of curiosity, how do you clear system cache on the Prime? A hard reboot?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TransformerPrime:
I have been using OM due to ANR in other browsers including Dolphin but it was my favorite so I re-downloaded it again today and surprised to find it doesn't have the lag like it used to on the prime. So I am back to it now.

Not sure if it's due to the Dolphin update (8.2.2) or the asus .28 update, but it's a good change to me.

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To clear system cache, re- install would clear every thing.

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Settings -> apps can also clear cache.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
based on Gary new update, they seem to take my recommendation of opening up testing to some more people and giving an update on NVFLASH.

Don't ever say i don't try to look out for you all :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tobi01001:
I would recommend "Cache Cleaner NG" (root required). It is able to clear the cache for each app (including system apps). However, this does not include dalvik.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
I don't want to be a turn off, but I performed two hard resets, and my darn screen still flashes and jumps and my browser is still cr@ppy. I don't think it's possible to make more cache cleaning than that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pnharrison:
I got a full refund from Asus uk for mine after 4 months. Only took one phone call to a polite support rep and they gave me a reference number to return it to my retailer.

I explained that I felt it was not of sufficient quality and did not work as described (wifi, GPS, ANRs etc), that I'd given then time to rectify the issues but didn't want to wait further.

The rep put up little resistance. In the UK, I do have strong consumer laws clearly on my side.

It's a shame, my prime was one of the better ones out there and I really love what the Prime could be; but it just wasn't good enough to keep.

I'll probably be getting a TF700 when I can get hold of one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
Yes it is. Wiping data won't clear ANY system data. Which is most likely the source of all the crazy issues issues I've seen here.

Save all your stuff in an external device, download the full software from the Asus page and perform the installation from the SD card.

It is really easy to root, so no problem in that aspect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Kasper31:
Wow after waiting a month and an upgrade from .25 to .28 Asus gives us another problem ridden update. The update worked well for 1.5 days before screen flashes, programs lock up and require a reset and extreme battery drain while tablet is plugged into the charger where the tablet battery was empty and needed to be placed back on the docking station to boot up and turn on. While Asus claimed that the delay was due to improvements being made in the update, I am left wondering what the hell was the improvements that Asus placed to go from .25 to .28 and still have not solved the issues causing the Prime to function like a $80 knockoff tablet from China . As far as the improvements 36 hours of problem free use of my $700 tablet and $164 docking station does not leave me feeling pleased with the effort Asus is putting forth to getting the Prime to perform as Asus described in their advertisements used to sell the Transformer Prime.

So yes I liked that Asus was saying that the reason for the delay was to make sure the update did not cause more problems then it solved. I feel that Asus was just blowing smoke up our bums due to them releasing the .28 update with all the issues it is causing. Asus should widen their beta testing group to include more users since they can not figure out why each of the Primes sold act so differently to the same update being loaded on them. I can suggest a couple of ways that this could happen but have no way of proving that that is the reason for the Primes behaving the way they are.

Asus I am getting tired of giving you chances to fix the Prime chance 1 was the .18 followed by the .21 followed by the .28 and all of them caused problem . The only update I can say was better was the .21 due to it bringing my Prime back to a working condition from the .18 update.

Asus you should either release the NVflash so we can down grade back to an update that worked for our Prime or just quite while you are ahead and do a recall to replace the Transformer Primes because it won't be long before lawsuits follow from the ****ty performance of a high priced electronic device that can not do the things that it was advertised as being able to do.

Sorry for the rant I am just pissed that my prime turned into a pos 36 hours after the update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
so, you say that a hard reset doesn't wipe everything? it wipes the system (meaning sort of a fresh install), it even wipes my built-in memcard... but systam data stays?

than i'm sure it must reset voodoo root keeper too, right? (i want my root because of TB)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DHTC:
Thats good to know, I'm thinking of returning mine, had it since feb/march. The new update seems to of improved the browser slightlt, less please wait etc, but I now have a line running across the length of my screen.

Have you got the number you called asus by any chance please. Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
Hardreset wipes only /data partition. And the data on your "SD Card" (Internal memory" is treated in ICS as your /data partition too, so both are gone with a Hard Reset.

/System partition on the other hand its not touched. That's why Voodoor Root Keeper stays after OTAs and Hard Resets. The files are kept on /System Partition, not on User partition.

You can Root, use Voodo to backup root, hard reset, re install Voodo and your Root will be there to be restored.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
yeah, i got that. but what you say is to make a clean install. not with hard reset, but with the downloaded zip and sd-card method. am i right?

so i'm gonna lose my voodoo backup, innit?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
Exactly. But .28 is really easy to root. Just go to Dev Section and get the tool :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
thanks buddy!

i have the zip already, i'll do it when i get home. i presume the zip flashing is not harder with the original recovery than with CWM. so i'll give you people feedback :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mekrel:
Thanks, that's good to know.

I'm going to CPW at lunch time and will have a chat with a member of staff about returning mine for a full refund.

Thankfully I bought mine using my credit card and if they refuse, I'll be going through my card company to get my money back. There's sufficient evidence on this very board that clearly states this device is faulty and Asus can't fix it.

The I/O performance is there for everyone to see, it's not hard to replicate or measure; in my opinion the fact it hasn't been fixed indicates that it can't be solved through software.

If I'm wrong and it can, I'm not prepared to wait another 6 months and experience more half arsed software releases.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pnharrison:
I used the support number from their website. 0870 1208 340

http://uk.asus.com/Terms_of_Use_Notice_Privacy_Policy/Contact_ASUS/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sunne2k:
Hey, just a question to you both... installing the update through SD card will overwrite the system files? Or that can only be done when rooted? Thanks :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
It overwrittes everything! Its the full Android installation, directly from Asus. You need no root, no nothing. Only a SD Card and your info backed up somewhere else :P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sunne2k:
So, tell me if I'm not understanding that, upgrading through SD card differs A LOT from upgrading through wifi, right?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DHTC:
has anyone else had a horizontal line appear since updating to .28, I know some people have had flickering, but ever since I updated it appeared out of nowhere, It appears about half cm above the home button etc, and stretches the length of the screen.

I have factory reset twice, and also updated it through the use of the micro sd solution but its still there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
Yep. The wifi update updates only the changed files or new versions, but keeps everything else.

Its just like windows update to give ya an example. And factory reset would be something like deleting the program files and my documents. While using the SD method is like formatting the HDD and installing an updated version directly from the DVD.

That's why i always go for full SD installation, given that root is easy to obtain.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
yup! ota (or fota) is like small windows updates. all your data remains, your files, your apps, etc. this sd update is more like a "format c:" + fresh windows install.

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lol, same time, same example :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sunne2k:
Thank you guys! I'm going to give it a chance and install from the sd, since I'm having troubles with my sensors and I don't know what else I can do... (explained in the thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1716591)

Thanks again! :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] davejm53:
Artifacts, all across my screen. WiFi still worthless unless sitting on my router. GPS..forgetaboutit. I stopped using it. No root. Nothing custom. Only apps from Amazon or Play. ASUS=$500. Me...ugats right now. If I had the cash, I'd buy something else. Anyone want one of the best, fastest, tech. advanced tablets money can buy. Mine is for sale. At a steal. $200
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Shinare:
I updated via sdcard after a failed ota due to build.prop and all my apps and homescreens were all there after. It behaved just like an ota.

PS> I'm still wondering how to clear system cache?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vvveith:
Yes, that is great information.

However, mentioning it three or four days after the OTA is a little remiss if you ask me. :mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dgjl:
In the interests of balance (if anyone's interested in balance) I've had .28 since it arrived and, though I don't think there's much difference from .21, page rendering might be a bit quicker. Everything else is still just fine. The things I use my ATP for are: Browsing (pages load about 2 seconds slower than my high spec lap top, but they do load find). Supernote which is a marvel. Kindle which just gets better and email which is always fine. Don't do much gaming.:)

Oh, and the ATP is a fantastic video player.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vvveith:
I just called the US support number.

I called the U.S. support number and they were not willing to refund a dime, wanted me to RMA my device and told me that it would take anywhere from fourteen days to a month to troubleshoot and return or replace. I told them this is unacceptable and they apologized and told me they knew of all the problems I was having and can verify that it is a hardware problem and there is nothing they can really do about it, however they had to follow protocol and even if they found the device to be defective they would only be willing to replace it, not refund the money. So there you go. :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
okay, I'm unable to flash the full firmware. When I try it from the stock "recovery" I get the exclamation mark error. If I let the system find it as an update it leaves everything in tact, so it's not a full rewrite. Any ideas?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mekrel:
Can you confirm what issue they admitted to being caused by a unresolvable hardware issue?

I can't see where you're from as I'm on Tapatalk, but do you not have a consumer protection agency you can report this to? There are plenty of groups in the UK who will be very interested in hearing about Asus supplying faulty goods.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
I also suffer screen flickering on .28 on apps that did not give me any flickering on the previous firmware. Very annoying.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vvveith:
No, unable to help/

The person I spoke to was unwilling to share root causes of known problems with me and also was unable to break protocol even though he told me it would be the right thing to do. He apologized and said that Gary and Mr. Leiu had more options available to them, and I should pursue action from them. I have called all people involved in this transaction, and they are also trying to see if we can get this rectified, but admittedly they tell me their hands are tied because of policies and such. Amazon thirty day return window has closed and their service was stellar, I received the product in good time and in good condition, fundamentally closing their end of the deal. I told them I held out past the thirty days because of ASUS's commitment to fix the bugs and thought it fair to give them a little more time then thirty days since I have never had a problem with ASUS before with other hardware I have purchased from them. I still pursuing other avenues, but it is looking rather grim except for the Class Action suit. But that will still take a little more time and will only recover for me a small percentage of the loss. Sad to say but today when I was using my Prime right after a fresh reboot, I started seeing strange horizontal lines flash across the screen, then on home screen the strange bar code lines on the left side, and now the flickering notification bar. I'm afraid my slightly working tablet is dying and I really have hardly used it at all because of all the problems I was hoping would be resolved. :mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
In addition to random screen flickering, add the sleep of death to the new features introduced to my Prime in .28. So sick of this crap.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
So will I loose root if I do an SD Update?

BTW, I have OTA Root Keep installed and SU Backed up?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
yes, you will! since it rewrites the system partition completely. i lost it too. but it is said that it's really easy to get root on .28 - altough i didn't have the time to do it myself.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
Thank you, might give it a try...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MXR2:
just like previous few posts that other users have suggest. Do a manual system update. Download the whole .28 firmware from ASUS and do a clean install from the sd card. OTA upgrade appears to be the cause of all these problems. I too, keep having this problem on my prime until I do a full wipe and reinstall the whole .28 firmware again, all issues gone.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
This is what I suggested to another user via PM, if you are having issues try to do this:

Full manual Installation

Turn your Prime Off

Wipe Data from From bootloader (Vol Down on boot -> Wipe data)

As soon as it boots up, do not enter any Gmail account info, or install any apps

Follow this Guide to update using the file provided by Asus.

That should make it, gl
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
Thanks for the suggestion, guys. I haven't been keeping up with this thread 100%. It's annoying, but I think I'll give this a try this weekend.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MXR2:
did a full wipe and reinstalled the .28 firmware using sd card. doesnt work. left side tearing & flicker still happens
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
Seems like the same Graphic Memory bug we had in .15 then. I'm sure it is from the Tegra 3 Drivers :S
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Manar Aleryani:
Didn't feel any difference at all. The Random reboots, however, haven't occurred after the update. But I haven't used my tablet for too long to judge.

The problem with the GPS persists. I still have to tether my phone GPS to make any of the navigation apps useful. Anyways, keep up the updates, Asus!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] deevo2:
for what its worth... my experience.

have been running 28 since released.

games - worse, more crashing / and graphic glitches. some games i just cant play

browser - no difference here.

wifi - same old same old

system bar disappearing a lot more frequently

"hide notifications" option breaks the "lock taskbar" functionality

yesterday youtube app crapped itself... always fails to start... tried rebooting... reset... soft reboot. gave up and went back to 11 version of stock rom... youtube works again, yay. do sd full install of 28... youtube broken again, boooo.

so at the end of the day i have given up and gone back to 11, the best of a sorry bunch for me.

forgot to add... asus task manager only shows three lines on all but default launchers
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Manar Aleryani:
Have seen this problem in my tablet in the older version of the software as well.

I think it's a software issue because the flicker occurs only in the Launcher app.