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[HTC Rezound] con247:
This is how it needs to be:

1) No more subsidized phones (no more kids w/ smartphones hitting youtube really hard)

2) $5/gig flat rate. 4GB minimum/month. So you pay atleast $20/month no matter if you use 1MB or 4GB/month. Then after that it is $5/gig. That way it is fair for everyone. Pay for what you use. So $30/month would get you 6GB
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
seems like that would be a great business model but I can think of a lot of adults who abuse data by downloading torrents 24/7 so don't pull that kids shouldn't have smartphones crap I'm only 14 but I can be a lot more mature than say some 20 year olds
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
yeah, my kids have dinc2's because I wanted the lines to have unlimited data going forward, and they use more netflix than youtube.

And con, why should someone who uses 50mb pay the same as someone that uses 4gb? That's not paying for what you use for. ;)
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
Its complicated lol.

I've loaned two lines on my account to good buddies of mine, originally with the plan of them breaking off on their own...they haven't gotten there yet.

But they pay their own lines, so its okay.

Sent from my evolving Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Negative.

My girlfriend uses maybe 900mb a month, why should she pay for 4gb?

Could you point me to where they say what I can and can't download with my laptop legally tethered to my unlimited data plan? Alot of people keep saying I'm abusing my unlimited data that I pay for monthly that they don't.
[HTC Rezound] eman3316@optonline.net:
You cannot get out of contract for free because they are not making any changes to anyone all ready in contract. You can keep whatever plan you are currently on or if you choose you can switch to one of the new plans if it will benefit you.

You can only get out of a contract without paying an ETF if there is any breach or change in your current contract which usually ends up being them adding some new fee and at that point you can usually peace out for free.
[HTC Rezound] WookieFan:
Not sure what you mean by "legally?" You mean you pay the up-charge to tether through the VZW tethering app, or that you circumvent the up-charge by rooting and using a third-party app?

I get that I have unlimited and should be able to use it the way I want (I flashed ICS just so I could tether). But I have no illusions about what I am doing. I'm pretty sure VZW could kick me off the network and penalize me, legally, if they bothered to find out.
[HTC Rezound] Jonger1150:
This ends up being a wash for me.... I'll probably do the 10gb share and pay $20 more for an extra 4gb. Since my wife uses like 1-1.5gb per month, its just a bit more extra data for me to waste.

Jon
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Legally as in I pay for unlimited 4g hot spot.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
It depends on what you're downloading. And also there is quite a bit that seems left up to interpretation from their policy.

http://support.verizonwireless.com/terms/products/vz_email.html
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
So none of this is specific besides illegal things yet people are abusing by just using it according to people?
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
Like I said...there's some stuff in there left up to interpretation.

"that interferes with the network’s ability to fairly allocate capacity among users or that otherwise degrades service quality for other users"

Does downloading 20GB a month interfere with other users? Or does 100GB? Does 1TB?
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
No no I was just saying that the kids part was wrong because we aren't the only people who use a lot of data.
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
Next paragraph.
[HTC Rezound] pkopalek:
I administer my family's family plan (my parents and one brother have dumb phones, and the other brother has a smart phone (iphone)).

If anyone upgrades ANY phone, subsidized, I will be forced to have everyone on a fully shared plan, and no one unlimited?

Will I be able to keep each line on its own individual data plan? I need to keep unlimited data.

I dropped Time Warner in 2009 due to PDANet. It's my only source of internet.

I do 12-20GB/month. This is going to kill me.
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
You will not be forced into Share Everything. People on your plan will be able to upgrade at will but they will lose Unlimited Data if they have it.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Well only thing I have to say on this is you have zero right to complain when you don't follow their rules. I.E. paying for tether.
[HTC Rezound] WookieFan:
That. If you have a broadband hotspot that shares your unlimited data, no problem. Or if you pay for your Rezound to run the VZW hotspot app. Otherwise, you are breaking your contract (I included myself in this statement).
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Gotten 2 stories on this. First version is if that someone upgrades and doesn't want to go to shared data that the only choice is 2gb for 30 plan. The second is that if someone upgrades it forces the whole family onto the shared data plan.

Regardless, if you are using unlimited data as your home internet then you should pay for the hotspot.

Personally, trying to find the wife a razr maxx right now on craigslist. She thinks that is the next phone for her (from the thunderbolt). When the SG3 drops, should be a few to choose from.
[HTC Rezound] hellcatrydr:
I just talked to 611 and they confirm this ugliness. They're telling people it's so their customers get to save money!!! Facking liars.

They also told me there has been no real upsurge in complaints since the announcement! I registered mine. I hope others do too. Plus, why no warning email from Vz? No notice of any kind. BS!
[HTC Rezound] con247:
$20/month is very fair for data. It allows smartphones to keep a premium price. Plus, that excess money made by verizon on the really low users would allow data to be $5/gig instead of $10 like our current overages.

@ at the kids having smartphones thing... Data use isn't really my main issue with them. My main issue with kids having smartphones is the facebook, sexting etc. My sister is in the car for 3-4 hours a week with a couple of her volleyball team members. When they are in the car together, they don't even say a single word to eachother. They are all talking to other people. Smartphones ruin these kids' ability to communicate face to face with one another.
[HTC Rezound] CanesDrew:
I just don't understand why people have this sense of entitlement when it comes to business. They don't have to do anything they don't want to do. If you're using it as your home internet connection, you deserve to be found out. And I hope they charge you for every bit you use.

Bottom line: VZW can charge $100/GB if they wanted. They'll charge as much as people are willing to pay. They are a business and in it for the profit. I applaud them for it. They provide the best service and the best customer service.

Quit whining and go to T-Mobile if you want cheap phone service.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Well for me I don't really have many friends because everybody my age has the mental capacity of a 5 year old. I personally never text and would rather call when I'm with my few friends I don't usually use my phone that much but when I'm home its the only thing I can do, we finally got good WiFi so my 30gb+ of data will probably drop down to more around 5-10 but still I like having the safety net and not having to worry about overages just my $.02
[HTC Rezound] pmania:
Hmm, the only reason my data is so much is because I download all my roms over 4g, and I try lots. Everything else is just like facebook though.
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Seriously. That's the main reason

I use so much.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
do you even pay your cellphone bill?
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
I don't get why people on the forums act like other people can't have their opinion about the service they're paying for. Everyone can say whatever they want.

Quit your whining and leave the forums if you don't want to see opinions.
[HTC Rezound] WookieFan:
This kind of reaction is what we want to avoid, right? I don't think his comment was trying to prevent other opinions, just a lack of understanding others' thinking. If anyone is being critical of others' opinions, I would suggest it's you.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
We all have our opinions right? I feel his was critical. All I did was flip it back at him.

Keep it moving.
[HTC Rezound] CanesDrew:
I never said they can't have their opinion.

What I'm talking about is this crap how people feel Verizon owes them something. Cell phone service isn't a right, its a privilege. If you can afford it, do it. If not, go to another carrier. No ones begging them to stay with Verizon.

Do I want to lose my unlimited data? NO! But I'm not leaving Verizon over it.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Double
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
You missing my point. You on here complaining about people who are complaining about verizon policies telling them that they can leave if they want cheap. I'm saying if you don't wanna see complaining its probably best if you don't read in threads like this.. I avoid apple vs android threads and goodbye forums threads.
[HTC Rezound] jbuffethed:
I'm just as upset about this change a anyone. She has my old Droid x and I have the rezound. We have one unlimited 3G and one 4G with 4GB @ 2GB price. Both lines share 1400 minute and have 250 texts each. My wife talks more & we text a lot. As much as we want to keep unlimited, we don't really use that much data. I use the most, but monitor how much I use. We will actually pay less with the new plan plus I get a military discount.

We will wait and see.
[HTC Rezound] CanesDrew:
The OP wasn't complaining, just letting people know.

Move along and quit critiquing me.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
I'm guessing complaining had a definition change lol. But cool.
[HTC Rezound] canistotaweb:
You are correct, I wasn't complaining, it's a waste of time. Verizon can charge whatever they want and I can choose whether or not I feel what they provide is worth what they charge. In my case a $60 a month increase for what would amount to a decrease in services provided isn't worth it. I have signed a contract with Verizon that I will honor and once it's up we will part ways.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
guys guys, enough fighting.

we're supposed to hate verizon, not eachother! lol :p
[HTC Rezound] 1454:
Can someone please tell me how you are "sharing data" when it costs 40 dollars for every line added? Before it was 10+30 for data. That =40. So please tell me how anyone could gain from this? Even if you bought under the "double the data" deal you are getting hosed, again. Because before each smartphone would have gotten more data, as it was individual, now you get the same amount of data for even more money. It *might* have been a decent deal if it carried a 9.99 line access fee, or MAYBE 19.99 for a smartphone, but at 40, F-off VZW. They are effectively raising all of our bills by ~20 bucks a month per line for every upgrade since we are losing that 450ish subsidization every 18-24 months. They BETTER not try and tack on a 30 dollar upgrade fee on top of the full comp phone price. I can't promise I feel the need to stay after sprint or Tmo gets their LTE networks up. As these plans are just plain retarded.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
He meant his original post. I was telling him if he doesn't like complaints he should leave the thread.
[HTC Rezound] 1454:
I'm sure it would hard, but I will definitely be going this route if my bill exceeds the current 210 that I already pay a month. That is my limit. Heck, it is my most expensive bill outside of my rent. My car payment, cable/internet combined, etc are all cheaper than my cell phone bill. That's ridiculous. And therefore I refuse to pay more than I already do. When I pay more for something that I NEED, a car, than I do for an elective, a phone, then I refuse to go any higher. No, I don't have an expensive car, but 210 is just over the top and this would raise my bill by at least 40 more dollars a month just for a "usable" amount of data for my lines.

Heck, even if I switched two the "double data" deals, my plan price would have stay the same price only I would have lost my unlimited data. And technically I would have ended up with 8 GB of data that I could use. With this I would have to pay for 10 GB of data just to stay "safe" with my usage and not hit overages. The carriers think they have an inelastic demand for smartphones, but they don't. Many people, such as myself, are already reaching their breaking points. And I refuse to pay any more.

---------- Post added at 02:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:40 PM ----------

That would still cost you 40 dollars a month, then you have to carry around two devices. Because each dumbphone is 30 dollars a month to add. I don't know what changed to where they had to change the line access charge on a dumbphone. I get you get "unlimited" minutes, but who cares. I'll never use them. I hate talking on the phone.
[HTC Rezound] tCizler:
I agree, I'm at my breaking point. Won't pay a penny more. I've already been looking at dumb phones, just in case they try to make me"upgrade" when my contract is up. Although that's a long ways away. I have internet at home,work, and WiFi just about everywhere between. I can deal with not having it everywhere at all times
[HTC Rezound] 1454:
I have it everywhere except at work. So it won't be that huge of a loss. But I do use my phone to stream my music and navi in the car, so that will be a loss. But I loss I can deal with.
[HTC Rezound] tCizler:
I stream too, but I guess I'll just have to dust off the ipod and download music.... The old fashioned way, lol
[HTC Rezound] CanesDrew:
No I didn't. O.P refers to the first original post on the thread. That would be post #1, page #1.

Like I said and he said, he wasn't complaining. This turned into a b******g about Verizon thread. If you don't like Verizon, leave. It's that simple. Pay your ETF, or don't your choice, and go to another carrier. But complaining on XDA won't make Verizon see it your way. Call them and complain.

/end rant
[HTC Rezound] 1454:
I have called and emailed just to make sure I am heard by VZW. But bad press, on here or anywhere, is never good. I can't say for sure that they read this, but if I had to guess I'm sure they pay someone to see what their customers are saying. I mean why wouldn't they? B!tching did stop the 2 dollar bill pay fee. So there is nothing to say that it *might* not work this time. I'm sure many here have probably done the same thing.
[HTC Rezound] canistotaweb:
This new family plan could potentially generate a lot of revenue for Verizon whereas the $2 fee they tried implementing was just a minor drop in the bucket and they likely felt any PR hit from trying to impose it wasn't worth it. The only thing that would change Verizon's mind on this is a hit to their bottom line from a significant drop in subscribers.
[HTC Rezound] 1454:
I don't disagree, which is why i'll probably leave at the end of my contract. I like their service, but not to the extent that they want to cripple it. Hopefully they will change their mind by that point. I just contracted the rezound about a month ago, so I know my unlimited data isn't going anywhere for at least that long. However, I doubt they will change their policy after all this. Even reasonable caps would be fine, but 2gb isn't reasonable. 5gb is reasonable. Before smartphones were popular and WinMo and Rim dominated, they considered that *fair use*, so why has that changed?(other than an uptick in demand) I'll see if I can dig up the old contract, but they held the right to term service on unlimited plans(IIRC) if you exceeded 5gb. This is where I get hung up. They set the caps low enough so they could rake in extra on even moderate users. And I'm all for profit, and I have no issue with a private business charging what they want.

However,(imo) it's not a good business practice to start screwing customers that have been loyal for a long time. I know my .02 doesn't count for much, but that is what it is. Under this new "scheme" my bill will increase by 50 or more dollars without me getting anything extra in return. How is it from one day to the next that my service that was worth 210 a month is now worth 250-260 without any change in usage on my part? So, does it matter what I care, no. Of course not. But the point is that I will b!tch a little because I don't agree with it. As I stated above, it is my 2nd most expensive bill and I understand that it is a want that I can terminate at anytime. Which I will do before paying another penny more a month than I already do.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Edit : nevermind. Dunno why but your tone just pissed me off, it's all opinions but your particular one boils me. Sorry for coming at your throat from the beginning.
[HTC Rezound] CanesDrew:
No worries dude.
[HTC Rezound] DaPitt84:
Yeah I'm with you guys. Those plans suck. I don't do a Ton of data but I hit 4 gigs easy. And I haven't streamed in months.

I'll just have to save for my next phone in two years. What it will cost me in two years will easily be cheaper.
[HTC Rezound] ZenPirate:
What happens after the 28th if my rezound breaks and I reactivate either my 3g spare Droid x or iPhone until a replacement phone ships back to me? Will that make me lose unlimited?
[HTC Rezound] canistotaweb:
No, you will only lose it when/if you chose a subsidized upgrade
[HTC Rezound] ZenPirate:
Ok cool. I thought 3g to 4g screwed me too.

*edit*also, if I get a used LTE phone from say swappa can I just pop my sim in and its good to go, or do I need to call in and activate the new phone on my account as well?
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
as long as the sim fits, you should be good. If not, verizon will swap the sim for you.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
For all those thinking of jumping to sprints lte network:

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/6/19/3094715/sprint-lte-speed-test-verizon-att-tmobile-comparison
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Sounds okay to me lately I've been getting around 7-8 mbps lately
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Same here. When I first got Verizon on their LTE launch day I was doing 40+ down. Can't get past 10-12 if I am lucky now. Usually see 7-8.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
these tests are being done on an empty network. Imagine what happens once people are using it...

I still hit 15-20 down and 3-12up.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Yeah I know but at least I can use it, I don't care if its a little slower I just really can't be worrying about overages, I have good WiFi now so I'll be using that at home and that's where I use my phone the most and I can deal with 3-12mbps. Also I'm sick of Verizon never getting good phones (besides the galaxy sIII)
[HTC Rezound] krelvinaz:
My son's Dinc (original) is off contract, so I looked around.... not a fan of Samsung or Motorola.... I have a family plan with 4 phones on it on AT&T that have been there for a long time.... I dont like that service or their billing (they screw up the billing almost montly with no changes taking place... hard to fathom..) but they are happy with that service. I'm not moving there though and can't see moving my Son over there either.

In any case, the best for for the money and what he is doing was the Rezound ....

So re-upped him yesterday before the plan changes and he has the same plan as I do (not family) with unlimited. Don't have to deal with their changes now for a couple years and by then, Who The F*ck Knows what the plans will be be... 3 devices on VZW (hotspot,2 Rezounds)

I think I'm going to start charging him rent... 23yr, going to college (I'm paying) living at home.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
LOL, I have a 23 year old son also.

He recently graduated from St. Lawrence University (that I paid for) and he's living with me for now.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
I am 23 and live at home while trying to find a better job. I do pay rent though. I also help out around the house a lot though so I make it worth their while.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnyhall1bmx1:
quick question,

basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?

i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?

its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..

thanks

:D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sun90:
custom rom do come with there own pro's and con's u have to check the changelog of that rom to see whats different in it also some apps which do require root previlage wrks fine with custom roms rather than stock one's;)

stock roms do have better batt life compared 2 custom ones at the cost of customization with there dull and boring looks:)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnyhall1bmx1:
thanks for your reply :) i guess its just finding the correct balance between customization and battery life then. cheers
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trooperjohn:
go with custom

I had the exact same thoughts when i first decided to flash a custom rom.

Personally i would now flash a custom rom at the drop of a hat, however as the previous comment said there are pros and cons.

do some research on roms with functionality that you require and you'll find one you want to flash no doubt.

hope i helped :)

i am now running CM9 and its so smooth and looks amazing, a millions times better than stock in almost every way!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Casterina:
Check out the ROM and the comments which people have wrote. Some of them may be good and others may be bad.. you'll be able to work out the missing features of the custom rom bother you or not ^__^ That's how I work out whether to install the ROM XD Most ICS ROM's have their benefits and cons, Gingerbread would be considered the most stable :) Hope this helps you
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilometers4:
Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnyhall1bmx1:
cheers guys :) i guess custom seems the way forward, just need to research the changelog of each rom that takes my fancy

thanks again guys !!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fgoyti:
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?

To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sun90:
with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u:)

and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it:)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fgoyti:
But there's already no brick bug on 4.0.3 right? So... what exactly would I gain with the Siyah kernel?

The only thing I can think of is CPU/kernel modding
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Omaxe:
I am doing same on stock

Peace

Hit Thanks & It will Disappear

Sent from S II Running Official ICS 4.0.4 with Siyah 4.1 [/size]
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obagleyfreer:
One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)

For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ctomgee:
It's the ROM, not the kernel, that determines if MHL fully works.

Apparently video works with AOSP, but not full mirror of the display.

However, if you want full mirroring, you'll need to be on a stock Samsung based ROM.

That said, you can still run a custom kernel, such as Siyah or SpeedMod, and MHL will still work as long as you remain on the Samsung based ROM.

I'm currently running stock XWLPX with Siyah 4.1.4, and MHL works fully for me.
[HTC Sensation] furqan79:
HI All i am start new thread by the name of icons pack fro pkmn rom if some body have icons pack share it here....;)
[HTC Sensation] jerrytan93:
why don't just share it HERE ? :rolleyes: