yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] nfsmw_gr:
Well...io is input output...

And yes,some apps load a litle slower for me with 1.7 version.

In 1.6.8 quadrant score is around 6000+ and with 1.7 it's around 5000+

Quite a drop huh?

My guess is that dual boot implementation is using resources and i don't go with quadrant to say "Hey,i'm whining it's slower now." the benchmark i maybe proves what i think but i'm not using it as a base but as a tool.

The only thing i need is someone to confirm this.
[Galaxy S III General] kilgorcalrizian:
Anyone?
[Galaxy S III General] bordikun:
^

Have you tried a Full Wipe install of the ROM?
[Galaxy S III General] cba1986:
+1

Confirmed. I will stick with 1.6.8 for now. Not a big deal though.
[Galaxy S III General] kilgorcalrizian:
Do you mean a complete factory reset? I haven't done that (trying to avoid it). I've re-flashed JB 5 or 6 times and it always works fine until I try to install the kernel.
[Galaxy S III General] joe_donkor:
Means nothing at the end of the day, Quadrant clocked at 5200 with cfq. Switched the from cfq to sio and it went to 5600, I was expecting a drop here. Antutu still around 14500, so no change there. Ultimately if the phone feels smooth and the battery lasts well for me, I don't worry about benchmarks.
[Galaxy S III General] jnr21:
I have 1.7b1 and siyah recovery with 2 roms, Omega jb and liquid 2.0. But for some reason i can't write to secondary roms system partition, there's no problem on primary (omega) rom.

Edit: gm said that it will be fixed in next version.
[Galaxy S III General] dantheman122:
Do you have an i9300 (3G SGS3) or i9305 (4G Aussie version), there is no Australian version of JB for i9300 yet (only Polish)? Are you using i9305 with the proper JB in which case Siyah isn't designed for AFAIK since i9305 is different, or you've got an i9300 and you're trying to use the i9305 firmware which won't work.

If they're both wrong let me know and I'll see if I can think of anything else.
[Galaxy S III General] jnr21:
Yep, no write permissions on secondary rom system partition but i have working stweaks app on both roms.
[Galaxy S III General] bradputt:
argh, my nfc on the main rom paranoid android broke after i installed omega jb as the secondary rom.

anyone with this issue?, guess both roms share the same bootloader.
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
How you got your stweak working?
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
This might help http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32493434&postcount=595
[Galaxy S III General] Tenacious:
.............
[Galaxy S III General] kilgorcalrizian:
Oh my god. I can't even begin to express how embarrassing this is but I just double checked the firmware version in 'about phone' and I'm not even on JB! (I didn't notice because I didn't explore the phone much after updating, I was just focused on trying to get Siyah working) When I saw there was an update available I was so excited I just raced to samfirmware and downloaded it without thinking, I managed to misread 4.0.4 as 4.1.1 because evidently I'm a complete idiot.

So that would be why 1.6.8 isn't working. It doesn't explain why 1.7 isn't working though, isn't it supposed to be compatible with both ICS and JB isn't it?
[Galaxy S III General] jnr21:
Good question but i don't know answer for that because i didn't do anything to get it working, it just worked already after i cloned rom 1 to rom 2. So i can change stweaks settings and they are appliead after boot too.
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
The "storage" symlink was added in jelly bean by Samsung. Nothing to do with Siyah.
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
XXDLIB works good with Siyah 1.71?

I'm going to download it todayy.

I need a deodexed CWM Flashable or Odin Flashable link.

Not hotfile...preferably Google Drive or mediafire..

anyone give me a link?
[Galaxy S III General] erto90:
Someone know if is possible, with gestures, to have "swype down to expand notification" ( like in most of 3rd party lauchers)

I don't know how to activate it
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
Mistakes can happen. Just be glad it's not bricked. I hope you backup with Cwm before flashing anything.

1.7 is JB/CM10 based roms only
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I used wanamlites Rom for a secondary Rom, pretty close to stock
[Galaxy S III General] nfsmw_gr:
Thanks man for confirming,i'll stick with that too for now. :)
[Galaxy S III General] iBuzman:
fixed my broken nfc (AOKP 1st rom, Omega 2nd).

thx mate!!
[Galaxy S III General] dantheman122:
Haha yeah thought that could have been it too. 1.7 only works on JB and AOKP roms based on JB like CM10, gotta go back to 1.5 or something for ICS versions :)
[Galaxy S III General] bradputt:
hell yeah, it fixed my nfc. thanks bro!
[Galaxy S III General] iExitus:
Does it work 100%? Because I can enable it in the settings but when I try to write/read a tag with a few apps nothing happens. :(
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
I got XXDLIB.

And now 1.71 works great.

I'm going to set up Paranoid Android as 2nd rom.
[Galaxy S III General] alienmind:
I can read/write tags on CM10 (primary). I can read on Sammy (not tested write... don't have a tag here)
[Galaxy S III General] browy:
Hi everyone, do you mind sharing your CPU and GPU settings in STweaks for good battery life. Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] bradputt:
it does work on my main and secondary rom.

note that your main rom must be cm10 based. anything that you flash will go to the main rom.

doesn't work if your cm10 rom is secondary
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Can someone help me out here.

I have Stock 4.1.1 XXDLIB.

Siyah Kernel 1.71b and Siyah Recovery.

I have Paranoid Android Rom.zip downloaded on my sd card.

I want to set it up as the secondary rom for dual booting.

Can someone provide easy instructions on how to do this?
[Galaxy S III General] NexusCrazy:
Duplicate first ROM so you have 2 ROM's both the same.

Now flash paranoid android to first ROM after wiping dalvik and factory reset etc..

Flash Siyah 1.7 again.

Now swap ROM's if you wish. Before swapping make sure NFC is working on paranoid, if not theres a fix you can flash but must be flashed while paranoid is primary ROM.

Hope this helps
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Hi, is it recommended to update to 1.7b1? Or better wait for beta 2?
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
anyone having problem with ac charging even after setting to 1200ma and using the phone while charging drops battery and doesn't charge
[Galaxy S III General] coolnand:
Yes it is recommended.
[Galaxy S III General] kilgorcalrizian:
lol yeah, thanks if it weren't for you mentioning the lack of JB in Australia it would have taken me a lot longer to realise my mistake. I still can't believe I did that.

Ah okay, I was kind of unsure about that because the info for 1.6.8 explicitly states that it's only compatible with JB and CM10 while the description of 1.7 is kind of vague and seemed to imply that the kernel would work on ICS but its the dual booting function would only work on JB and CM10.

I've flashed Siyah V.1.5.3 and it's running fine.
[Galaxy S III General] uberto.costanzo:
hi i use only stock rom xxdlib for me is not important dual boot,a suggestion please the best is 1.6.8 or 1.7b ? whit 1.6.8 i have good good point quadrant, whit 1.7 no, and work well both, whats i install? thanks for reply
[Galaxy S III General] PlanetJumble:
Well if you don't need dual boot there is no need to hurry, especially if you play Quadrant a lot.
[Galaxy S III General] Codekrypt:
Flash v1.7b.Better than v1.6.8. Please don't follow benchmarks as they are mostly very inaccurate.

Quadrant is not a game but an app for benchmarks.
[Galaxy S III General] PlanetJumble:
Seems to have great replayability though.

Of course I know it is just a benchmark, and a bad one with very unreliable results on top of that. I just wish some people would get rid of their addiction to it. Just look at his post! He says he has good performance with both, but Quadrant is lower with 1.7. There really is no need to say more... :}
[Galaxy S III General] Codekrypt:
Aah ok I thought you had that jumbled up lol.
[Galaxy S III General] iExitus:
I have primary cm10 but it doesn work anyway.. But it's not broken in settings.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
When will you release 1.7b2?
[Galaxy S III General] Codekrypt:
Please don't ask for ETA's. Gm posted that he's busy at the moment.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Sorry.
[Galaxy S III General] Codekrypt:
No problem.
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
gm said he would release it yest if everything goes well but he was busy yest and he is busy today too... so we can expect 1.7b2 in a day or two
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
I am thinking about making a "default rom" option in stweaks, but I cannot change reboot menu

oops, I forgot to check that. I will fix it in the next version. (I quoted this one in the afternoon but then had a meeting)

I was busy during daytime and had some time to fix & release v1.7b2.. it is up ( http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ )

it supports installing secondrom directly from CWM flashable zip.

and wiping data/cache/dalvik & fix permissions.

only missing feature is backing up 2ndROM.

until I implement that swap&backup&swap back.
[Galaxy S III General] uberto.costanzo:
hi GM have up 1.7b2 whit recovery, sorry for this question but i am noob i use only stock rom jb, i have improvement if i install this? whats is change? thanks for reply
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
1.7b2 has recovery included
[Galaxy S III General] uberto.costanzo:
the change from b1 is only recovery included? thanks for reply
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
there are few more changes

- extfat support

-Install zip directly to 2rom

-wipe cache, dalvik, system directly in 2rom
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
No. I forgot to revert discrete wake locks while organizing the patches so kernel is a bit different as well. Also, 2ndROM system partition problem is fixed in ramfs. The other changes&fixes are in the recovery.
[Galaxy S III General] uberto.costanzo:
thanks for reply. i use only stock jb rom i can install it? i have improvements? thanks GM for your work
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
I should not answer that as my answer would be biased :)
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Okk.

Now i have the Paranoid Android.zip on my phone sd card.

I want to start dual booting.

XXDLIB as Primary.

Paranoid Android as Secondary.

In simple steps.

what should i do?

I didn't quite understand NexusCrazy's reply to me on this issue.

Thank you for ur great work Gokhanmoral.
[Galaxy S III General] Hawlery:
Is anyone dualbooting AOSP and sammy rom? Does the nfc in AOSP rom still break after you boot sammy rom?
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
If you use 1.7b2 just boot into recovery and install any rom using dual booting menu.

You will have to format 2ndROM system but even if you forget that you will be asked to do so assuming that this is the first time you are using DB.
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
There is a fix for that problem if you search the thread. If I remember correctly it was posted by alienmind.
[Galaxy S III General] iExitus:
Mhm STweaks don't show up on my second rom. Is there a way to install it manually?
[Galaxy S III General] b0gd4n:
Hey guys.

Been using syah for a while.

Since 1.6.5 I think I've been having this issue :

I set the audio to whatever presets using stweeks and it work really nice... Until I get a call. I then need to go back to stweeks and change something there... And boom... Everything is fine again!... Until the next call...

Anyone else had this issue? Any solutions?
[Galaxy S III General] Mattyboii87:
Right people. Going to try dual booting with Omega as primary and CM10 as secondary. Anybody got a quick guide?
[Galaxy S III General] Hawlery:
yeah I know, but I believe it wasn't permanent. I'll have to live with it then I guess.
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
Aokp?

1.6.8 should fix that but if it doesn't I will need a dmesg output just after it happens.
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
It is in /res folder but if you are on beta1 it won't install, you have to update to beta2 first.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
If I flash the 1.7b2 kernel (+recovery), does that recovery then render my nandroid backup invalid? I have taken a nandroid with the 6.0.1.2 touch recovery.
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
Delete /system/.siyah/stweaks-installed file in 2nd rom. Reboot to second rom.
[Galaxy S III General] SAEVARM3:
Amazing how this kernel and some minor tweaks with STweaks have fixed my battery life .. I was having massive battery drain on both ROMs and Stock JB Firmware until I flashed this Kernel.

Lost about 25-30% over night when i wasn´t in the phone ... now after I flashed this Kernel and yeah, made some minor tweaks I am only losing 3-4% over night which is amazing to me :)

Thanks for all your hard work mate, LOVE IT!

Peace!
[Galaxy S III General] Mattyboii87:
What tweaks did you make?
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Thanks..

After trying to install zip in dual booting options, it tells me to format first.

I then Format 2nd Rom System.

Then try to install again, but the formatting warning persists.

I've formatted 4 times up to now, but still it hasn't yet let me install.

What should i do?
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
if u already have omega installed

install latest siyah kernel

in recovery go to dual boot options

install zip on 2rom from sd card

flash cm10 and gapps den flash latest siyah kernel

reboot
[Galaxy S III General] Mattyboii87:
Thanks. Appreciated. Will I need to do the fix for NFC etc.?

I've got latest Omega and Siyah installed.

Do I ha e to reinstall Omega on both then CM10? Bit confused..
[Galaxy S III General] SAEVARM3:
ROM: None (Running stock JB Firmware)

UV= -100

GOVERNOR= lulzactiveq

OC= 1700000 kHz

Touch Boost Level= 1200MHz

Android Logger= OFF

I/O Scheduler= deadline

I´m also running that Droidphile script for lulzactiveq governor which was posted some time ago on the Siyah´s Kernel thread :)
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Never mind my previous post.

Got the Dual booting working. :D

One suggestion:

Possibly add an option in stweaks to reboot to primary/secondary rom?
[Galaxy S III General] Mattyboii87:
Have you got quick link to script?
[Galaxy S III General] SAEVARM3:
Here is the post with the Download link = Droidphile lulzactive performance script
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
No.. install only cm10 by going in dual boot menu
[Galaxy S III General] b0gd4n:
Omega v27 +1.6.8

How do I get the dmesg output?

Thanks a million!
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
gokh said he wil try
[Galaxy S III General] zimmerAndy:
Hi i cant boot my 2rom have dragons JB rom primary and try two ics roms on 2rom but i cant boot into them i have sammy ics flashed on 2rom... anybody can tel me wat om doing wrong?? 1.7b2 now
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Thanks gokh for dual boot.....it's like having a Ferrari and a Transit van side by side in the garage :thumbup::D
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
probably a free space problem. you need 1.5GB free space to format 2ndROM system, and you will need some more for 2ndROM data partition.

I did not use hidden partition for data because some ROMs format hidden partition during the installation.

I think I will make reboot into safe mode to reboot into the second ROM in the next version (long press reboot if you are using cm10)

use smanager or a similar terminal app and run "su" then enter. then type this: "dmesg > /sdcard/dmesg.txt" and attach it, preferably to the development thread. bug reports with logs are welcomed in dev thread.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Le bump
[Galaxy S III General] b0gd4n:
cool. thanks! will do that tomorrow and will post result!

thanks again!
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
no, the recovery is compiled from cm10's repo and nandroid part is unchanged.

so, it is fully compatible with your existing nandroid backups which were taken with 6.0.1.X

the only difference is that the default backup format is tar.

dedupe creates so many files and I don't like it. it makes copying the backups to my pc slower.. you can still set the backup format to dup if you like.
[Galaxy S III General] iExitus:
Can I use this for 2nd rom too? Because there is no etc folder in .secondrom :/
[Galaxy S III General] soul master:
dual boot question !

I have a ics rom (4.0.4) lfb so can i install paranoid as second rom or only

cm10 or do i have to remove the ics to install the latest siyah

right know i am on 1.5.3 i know i have to flash the latest but can i leave the

ics rom and have the secondary as i mentioned
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
you should put it to /system/etc not /.secondrom/etc

you are not supposed to make any modifications on /.secondrom folder.

when you boot into 1stROM /system is 1stROM system folder and when you boot into 2ndROM /system is 2ndROM's system folder.

last ICS version is 1.5.4.

anything above that doesn't support ICS and I am not planning to support it in v1.7 neither.

it just doesn't worth the effort.

you have to update to JB first if you want to try 1.7 with dual booting.
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
I have this problem also, everyone know how to fix it?
[Galaxy S III General] iExitus:
Nvm.
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
do you have 1.5GB free in your internal sd card?

and thank you for using this thread. it would drive me crazy to read a question which has been already answered in the previous page if it was the dev thread :)
[Galaxy S III General] nhariamine:
i'm on Omega v27.1 and i tried dualbooting with paranoid android JB ,i cloned 1st rom to second rom and i installed zip from externel Sdcard to second rom.

when i boot in to first rom everything is good,second rom paranoid android just blackscreen.is it my fault??

please help me Step by step??
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
You didn't have to clone first rom. Just format 2ndROM system and install it.

OR

Clone omega.

Install paranoid Android using the regular install zip menu which will install it to 1stROM. Wipe data.

And swap them if you want.

And ALWAYS format 2ndROM system if you install a rom zip. You don't have to format it if you are installing an app, theme or update.
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Haha, nice if you are patient. Anyway, first time to do it have to format 2nd rom, then wipe cache and wipe dalvie cache to get it working. Thanks siyah your kernel is perfect, completely. Btw thanks to master to teach me the trick.
[Galaxy S III General] nhariamine:
thanks gokhan it worked!!!
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
Answer to post in dev thread:

Omega 13.1 is a ICS rom. Thats why it won't boot. Siyah 1.7b2 is for JB/CM10 roms. If you are flashing a different custom rom over another you should wipe data and cache, otherwise it probably won't boot or give you force closes.
[Galaxy S III General] jnr21:
If you guys are using mobile odin to flash 1.7b2, remember to press "open file..." (not "kernel") and then choose Siyah-s3-v1.7b2.tar, because if you flash it via "kernel", then recovery doesn't installed at all.
[Galaxy S III General] bordikun:
will the "delete 2nd ROM" option in dual boot deletes the allocated space of the 2nd ROM? and make internal SD more Free space or not?
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
i want to transfer data (apps) from primary to secondary rom.

How can i do that?
[Galaxy S III General] jnr21:
Yep, it deletes /.secondrom folder from internal sdcard and then you will get 1,5gb free space. So you can delete it via recovery or with file explorer while you are on primary rom.
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
first clone 1stROM to 2ndROM, then format 2ndROM system and flash another ROM.

but keep in mind that you can only do that if you are using 2 Samsung ROMs or 2 CM10 based ROMs.

to transfer your data between different kind of ROMs you will have to use a backup app (titanium, mybackuppro, or any other app you like)

if you clone a Samsung ROM and flash CM10 the 2ndROM will not boot.
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Anyone?

---------- Post added at 11:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 AM ----------

thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] beatsmaster0510:
If Fix 2nd ROM Permissions is not yet implemented in 1.7b2, how will I go from black screen after selecting 2nd ROM on the boot option?

Sent from Korean S3
[Galaxy S III General] saintsinner25:
Just set up dualboot with insertcoin and cm10 :D insertcoin for a proper working cam and cm10 for the aosp goodness :) thanks alot dev!
[Galaxy S III General] shokwaav:
How do I only flash the kernel and not the new recovery?
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Remove recovery.img from the package.
[Galaxy S III General] joe_donkor:
EIGHT posts back... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32560085&postcount=732
[Galaxy S III General] jnr21:
Mobile odin -> kernel -> choose siyah 1.7b2 tar package, then it will install only kernel.
[Galaxy S III General] iris_aim:
Thanks GM for bringing to us Ur awsome kernel.really hoping to flash back to siyah on my current JB room

But lately things have not een great with siyah ,it got all wrong with JB kernels..for ICS GM ruled supreme,even now dual booting is truely revolutionary,but i am sure most of just want a lag free battery friendly kernel which so far 1.6 had failed to deliver,i hope 1.7 really gets siyah back to track.

I have suggestion though if download section states sta le builds and test beuilds separatly.i know it does so with putting suffix like now it is 1.72b2,even simpler versions have had bugs lately(which were with suffix and only had written something like 1.65)it just needs a bit more segregation.

Muhammad I Alam
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
What's wrong with new recovery?

《swagged from aokp》
[Galaxy S III General] shokwaav:
I'm so sorry. It must have hurt your feelings so much to see my question.
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
"1.6 had failed to deliver"??

I don't know what kind of test or measurement this claim is based on but for me v1.6.8 performs great on Samsung ROMs.

and that is why I published v1.7betas.

if you have any bug report about v1.6.8, please do report. nobody reported any problem from Samsung JB side yet.

if not, I see no point in this post. is it just to say "it was good in the past but lots of people report problems and I am now afraid to try the latest stable version" ?

it would be nice if you can be more "scientific" in your claims.

there were a lot of bugs in some v1.6 versions, lots of different bugs, and most of them (if not all) are fixed.

and the bugs mainly come with new features.

in SiyahKernel, we will always have new bugs. because I sometimes make changes which were not done in any other kernel before. and those bugs mainly related with supporting both CM10 and Samsung ROMs which is the main feature of this kernel.

my aim is not to provide the ultimate bugfree kernel.

my aim is to be distinct and original.
[Galaxy S III General] kp.nikhil:
will we have jb and ics dual boot support in future?
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
no because it is hard and doesn't worth the effort.

Samsung JB is already good enough and stable.

and I don't know anything that cm9 can do but cm10 cannot.
[Galaxy S III General] PlanetJumble:
What about WiFi problems? Are they gone with newer Versions of CM10? I don't really understand the source of that problem.

Damn I posted this in the dev thread, thought I was here. Too bad I can't delete it myself despite the button reading "EDIT / DELETE".
[Galaxy S III General] kva:
Touch version is better.
[Galaxy S III General] gokhanmoral:
it is not touch recovery, it is just supporting gestures :)

and some like twrp (teamwin recovery project) more.

to me, recovery is just something to make backups and restore when needed.

but I think some people spend more time in recovery than they spend in ROMs :) that is why I will remove recovery in the next version and add "Boot into 2ndROM Utilities" in STweaks.
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
??

The new recovery is touch!