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[HTC Rezound] johnan2112:
I'm confused as to how this "saves" the customers any sort of money. I looked at my mom's plan as an example. She has a single smartphone line and pays $39.99 for 450 minutes, pay as you go text (she doesn't text) and $30 for unlimited data. She doesn't use more than 1gb so the tiered data doesn't hurt her but now if she upgraded, her line would go from $70 to $100? This is ridiculous.
[HTC Rezound] krelvinaz:
I have 5 phones on a AT&T plan family shared plan which is constantly hitting the top of the Voice minutes. they talk all the time on their phones. Data is not very much. this might be a better deal for that.

I personally (Verizon Account), use less than 200 mins a voice a month, and close to 3GB of 4G. Doesn't make sense for me.
[HTC Rezound] Cerealkillah:
If VZW wants to decrease some of the unhappiness with this new shared plan, they would include 1 smart phone in the "base" package price and/or reduce the access fees of "dumb" phones to $10.00/mo.

If I could get 6 gigabytes, 2 smart phones and 2 dumb phones for around $150.00, I would jump and not look back.

The only reason why they are giving away unlimited voice minutes and text is because both of those services have declined in value and volume in the last few years.

I suppose if you are already paying for 3 or more tiered data plans, this shared data plan crap isn't that bad of a deal. For 2 or less data package families, this is a total screw job.
[HTC Rezound] hekel:
o_0

The Executive names and e-mail adresses arent difficult to aquire via google.. just make sure you're e-ming the correct people in the correct depts.. if you're near PA i might still have a few e-mails.. iirc i have CEO addresses too ;) all thanks to google.. but honestly, idk how far you'll get emailing corperate about this.. im pretty sure they approved it.. as long as you pay them, they dont care about you.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
just got off the phone and the CS rep told me that if 1 line gets upgraded, then the family plan has to switch to the new package. Kind of hard to have a family plan with 2 different set of rules.

For me currently, I have 4 smartphones and 1 dumb phone on verizon. 1400 shared minutes, free mobile to mobile, free 10 land lines, and unlimited texting for 100.00 month, plus 30 for each unlimited data package is 120. 10 bucks for each line over the first 2 and my base price before taxes, insurance, discounts, etc is 250.

With the new plan and 10gb of data, my base price would be 290. They act like having unlimited minutes is something people will be wanting. With my current plan I never use more than 500 anytime minutes.

I also asked about the 3g-4g changeover. I was told as long as you don't upgrade through verizon, you can change the 3g phone to a 4g phone and keep the current data plan. My kids have dinc2's and the battery life for them is more important than 4g data at this point. 3g handles youtube and netflix well enough.

Guess I will be buying all "new" phones on CL since I am not due for an upgrade till feb.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
I think its a little cheaper if you have only 2 phones, just glanced at it though. Mine is like 110 a month, with another line with the same that I have, it would be 220 or so. With the new thing it will be like 40 dollars less... Idk if I did that right and I didn't read all the PDF thing, but the pricing model is kind of stupid. And you know they probably spent weeks coming up with that idiotic crap.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
HOLD ON

so i'm the ONLY smartphone on my 3 phone plan, and you're telling me i have to do that shared bull****?

right now i'm a loyalty plan and only pay like $120 for 3 phones....i did the math, it'll be 160. is that correct?

calling right now to talk to customer service and *****.
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
From what I understand...you have 2 choices as a Verizon customer (in terms of family plans).

Their current tiered pricing and everyone buys their own individual data package per line (ex. $30 for 2GB per line)

Or their new Share Everything plan announced today.
[HTC Rezound] Po1soNNN:
idk about you guys but this is a sweeet deal for me.

My family has a smartphone(me) and a dumbphone(mom's) on a senior plan that a vzw rep gave us through a loop hole.

its $60 a month plus 20 for my unlimited texting and $30 for my 4gb data package

and $5 for my moms texting

so thats $115 a month from verizon

now my dad has a galaxy tab and an evo 4g on sprint and idk what they have but its $150 a month and he never ever touches a gb

so even with my mom upgrading to a smartphone its:

$40 for my rez

$40 for whatever my mom gets

$40 for whatever my dad gets when he switches

$10 for tablet if he wants to keep it

$80 for 6GB(probably too much) but just an example

total price= $210

as opposed to $265 and the thing is we'll all have unlimited messaging and calling which we burn through. and i figure ill get an upgrade for data because they'll never use 2 combined which gives me room because im the only real data hog
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
yeah i just called from my store to confirm.

you can stay on your current family plans and pay seperate data per each line...so since i'm the only smartphone, i'm still gonna be on my loyalty plan paying my 30 a month, but when i upgrade next summer, ill be back down to 2 gigs instead of unlimited...which yeah it bothers me, but not that much
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
Jay I'd double check that later. I have a buddy that works for Verizon doing something with the network, said that employees received no training on this at all. What you see on the web is what they know.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i figured the same. but why would they 100% get rid of it for a line that's got only 1 smartphone?

either way, i have a year until i can even do anything about it, so until then i don't really care...

but if it forces me to pay 160 a month instead of the 120 i'm at now in a years time, i'm clearly dropping verizon after 15 years of being with them and i'm switching my family plan to AT&T.

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edit:

also i just looked at my account at work under our verizon system, LOL they're already showing the new plans..best part is, here's the wording:

Potential Action Recommended!

For $39.04 More per month, the value of Unlimited Talk and Text and 2GB of shared data across devices plus ability to add additional devices for as little as $10, like a 4G LTE tablet.

LOL yeah i'm really sure people wanna hear that for 40 dollars more they can lose their unlimited data and share 2 gigs among 3 lines. what a ripoff
[HTC Rezound] Kennnny1:
This. Verizon will absolutely be losing my business when/if I'm forced to change my plan.
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
I called 5 times and they all said I can keep my 1400 shared. This share everything is just another family plan option.
[HTC Rezound] CHRIS42060:
Yea when I called Customer Service it was the first time the person I talked to heard of it. She read to me from their info. If and when you use an upgrade on your account the entire account will be screwed over...... I mean changed to a family share plan. Wonder which loophole we can use, if any, to get out of contracts. AT&T well be much cheaper at this point.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
This is interesting. The CS rep I talked to told me if I upgrade any line, it will have to go to the new family plan.

Guess the only way to know is to wait until someone upgrades in july and see what happens.

No chance I'll use an upgrade. I will keep the unlimited as long as possible. Hit 10gb the last 2 months (phone use only).
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
looks like i'm buying all my phones off contract from now on!
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Someone should link this to Verizons Facebook page lol.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
dude verizon doesn't care. it's like top news all over teh headlines of tech blogs today too, but do they care?

no, because their stocks have risen today. clearly, the stockmarket thinks verizon is doing right.
[HTC Rezound] johny101010:
I have 3 smartphones, 2 unltd 1 double data 4 gb, and 2 dumb ones. If they allow me to keep my plans as they are I'll just pull the old switcharoo and take the hit on the double the data. If not thank you and f**k off Verizon. I'm going to sprint.

They have LTE here and I love their one x variant ( eco 4g lte)
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
If they get enough flaming they will change something surely. Increasing price on people is a good way to run them off of the network. Some people pay a lot of money to have multiple phones. I only pay for my own line, but if I had 3-5 people on a plan I'd be moving on to the next. And thats a lot of extra money Verizon will lose.
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Well this basically confirms that I will be switching to Sprint or TMobile after my contract is up next July... Too bad so sad for Verizon.

Sent from my Tablet
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
We're Lucky we'll have you til then
[HTC Rezound] pvaldeben:
Not to contradict anyone but,,

I'm on sprint and thinking of moving to Verizon because of the Shared Data Plan. I use between 1.5 to 2.5 GB, my wife uses 100 Megs tops a month. I pay 150. For $150 on Verizon would get 2 smart = $80 then 4 shared GB for $70 total is $140.

The benefit is Verizon has LTE and Sprint does not. Plus Verizon is finally getting a cool phone SGIII

For a person like me sounds like a deal to get better network and 4G.

Remember the new data plans let you use your phone as a hotspot with no additional charge so not much reason to root right away.

with out the shared data plan on Verizon I would have to get the 1500+ texting + 2 data plans would have been like $180.

Not so bad for a 2 phones on shared data plan.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
*facepalm*
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Here's a crazy thought. Verizon offers data only plans for tablets. Ten dollars, plus 40 for 6 gigs of data is 50 dollars. Why not get a tablet, bluetooth, and Google voice to complete the package. Sounds like 100 dollars for 2 tablets with 12 gigs of data. I got unlimited, so really just thinking out loud really. I just wish we could do this with phones too.
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
No it doesn't allow using hot spot with paying extra
[HTC Rezound] Kennnny1:
Did you even bother to read?

"Mobile Hotspot is included on all capable devices. Connect your device and share your data allowance with multiple Wi-Fienabled devices"
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Only problem I have with your statement is your usage. A lot of people don't realize how much data you consume on LTE. I went from 2-3 gb a month on sprint to 10-12 a month on Verizon. Did nothing different just it is so easy to do internet styled applications on my phone that using data is easier and I can do so much more in less time.

My view of it is like buying a car that gets 30 mpg with a 16 gallon tank. Then your buddy buys a really fast car that gets 15 mpg and they shrink the gas tank to 8 gallons. You can also refill your tank only once a month.

Just stupid in my opinion.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Better yet, go back to a flip phone and then use the tablet for internet/ texting
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
I did but didn't bother to read that far honestly. Wtf would I want to tether an already insignificant amount of data? My bill would double under this plan. I mean if you download a rom that's half a gig. 4 in a month? There's 2 gigs. It's ridiculous
[HTC Rezound] shaneo13:
I'm not going to be carrying a stupid tablet everywhere. Everywhere I'd have a tablet, I'd have wi-fi. (read: home).
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
my new plan: never upgrade to another phone as long as I have verizon... lol
[HTC Rezound] tonictonic:
This is truly a pile of human excrement. I just used up 2 upgrades that I didn't want to but if I end up on the new family plan I'd be paying from $150/month to $190/month for 2gb shared plan and lose unlimited on top of that.

Only thing that would piss me off more is if VZW does the good 'ol reach around and find some way to screw over the people who preordered the sgs3.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Like others, this confirms me most likely leaving to T Mobile or Sprint at the beginning of 2014.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I have a question.

I have five lines and only my wife's had an update.

I just ordered an SGlll to use up that before this new ridiculous plan goes into effect.

My wife has a highly modified Droid charge and loves it and had absolutely no use/want of a new phone.

When the new phone comes, does VZ care if I activate it on MY LINE instead of hers??
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Nope you used the upgrade and are stuck on Verizon for another 2 year's so they don't care where that phone goes. Now that I think of it I can confirm I used my Bros upgrade to get the rezound and activated it immediately on my line so you should be good.
[HTC Rezound] tonictonic:
I would just call up VZW to make sure that it's ok to activate it on your own line. Normally I would agree with the guy above but you don't want to take a chance on losing your grandfathered plan with VZW's new untested family plan.

In any case it shouldn't matter which lines the phone is activated on you can always just swap the sims around afterwards.
[HTC Rezound] Demonhawk1313:
I was thinking their "reach around" will be that the sg3 doesn't ship until after the change. Now your activating a new phone after the cut off. That shouldn't happen, but who knows with them.

Sent from somewhere, I can't remember.
[HTC Rezound] maniac2k:
Was just looking at the gs3 specs and its physically bigger than the gnex! Not to mention its a samsung. I already got rid of my gnex because the screen, camera, battery, and volume sucked on it. Ugh!
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
I don't understand the all confusion...

All of Verizon's phone plans (individual, 700 share, 1400 share, etc) currently available will be around after June 28th. After June 28th, any upgrades on an unlimited data line will force that line to Tiered Data (that means $30 for 2GB, $50 for 5GB, etc). Share Everything is another OPTION of Family Plans now being offered.

No one will be forced to the Share Everything unless you want it (at least at this moment).
[HTC Rezound] marblesmike:
Yes, and as my verizon employee friend said, for some people it's a good option, but he can understand why people like me with unlimited data wouldn't want it.
[HTC Rezound] maniac2k:
Exactly.... Thats the problem. No subsidized upgrades after june 28 or you lose unlimited data.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
At least they are allowing you to buy the phone off contract to keep your features...
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
Everyone is thinking that Share Everything is the only option moving forward after June 28th which isn't true.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
That will be the next thing to go, then nobody will have unlimited data anymore which is obviously their ultimate objective.

VZ could care less about the few users here who are threatening to leave (because they like DLing Torrents to their phone) as 95% of their users could care less about unlimited data that they will never use anyway.
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
You say that now when everything from pictures, videos, and data in general is just getting larger and larger in file size.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Believe me, I understand perfectly (I have five lines that all have unlimited data) but the average joe blow user is totally clueless about that kind of stuff.

My Wife is a perfect example of your average VZ user & I don't think she has ever hit 2 gigs of data in a month & she doesn't even know what that means really (& she's a school teacher)
[HTC Rezound] rsage:
Just wait until ISP's like Comcast start introducing tiered data w/caps... good times...

By the way for those contemplating an eventual switch to AT&T, they're working on shared data plans that will probably be very similar to Verizon's. Now that Verizon has set the precedent, the other big carriers can undercut Verizon by a few cents and claim to be the "more affordable alternative"...
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
I find the prospect of unlimited data coming to an end pretty lame, but at the same time when I first signed up for Verizon, I got the cheapest plan and felt I would probably have a hard time trying to keep my usage low. Turns out since I have wifi at my house, my usage is always under 1GB. When my internet was out for a few weeks and I had to check up on my phone for stuff, my usage was still barely half a gig. So I'm a bit indifferent to this whole thing considering I'm not the data hog I thought I was.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
comcast kind of already does...it's "unlimited", until you hit like 260 gigs a month lol then they write you letters and possibly slow your speed, etc
[HTC Rezound] eaglet1223:
Before I was due for an upgrade, I was considering switching my incredible over to Virgin Mobile and going prepaid. I hated their lack of good phones, so I was going to try that, until I found out about the legal issues with doing so.

Although the service may not be as good, I don't think I can tolerate paying so much for service when, now, they have 4G Android phones (HTC Evo V 4G) and the iPhone 4S (Not a fan, but my wife is) coming out and you get 300 minutes, unlimited data (actually 2.5 GB) and text for $35 a month.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
A lot of companies claim they give you unlimited but they actually don't, they throttle you or charge you for streaming or kick you for excessive usage or something. And yea a lot of cable providers don't actually have unlimited. Some down here give you lower caps the faster your speed is too, of couse it's in the fine lines and all.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I'm kinda the same way. I love having unlimited data just for the piece of mind knowing I never have to worry about it (& I don't want to feel guilty everytime I click on a YT video) but I rarely use over 2 gigs a month myself.

I have never downloaded a ROM for instance to my phone, that's what PC's/cable/Wifi etc. are for.

Heck, 4 years ago everybody got along just fine without DLing 90 gigs a month to a phone, we just to need to relearn some of the old ways I guess because UL data is definitely coming to an end.
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
I'd be fine with a cap if it was reasonable with a reasonable price. Like 50 dollars for 10 GB.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Ridiculous.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
If only I could grow a goatee. I'm at the age where I'm sure it won't happen if it isn't happened by now lol

*throws tomato *

My phone is for whatever I wanna use it for as long as I pay for it.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
That is great meme usage right there.
[HTC Rezound] fenguepay:
No more on the road anything for me.

Now i can no longer be in the car watching netflix. With this type of plan, ill gave to use a max of 2.5 gigs a month on the largest plan because there are 4 smartphones on our family plan. This will be hard because i use an average of 16 gigs a month spread through netflix, youtube, facebook and tethering.

Why not just switch to sprint, they're getting lte and the evos are nice from what i heard. And isnt there some option to just switch for free or something when this type of thing happens?
[HTC Rezound] Imitation:
Your plan will be kept in place until an upgrade is used. Thus, Verizon isn't changing/breaking the contract.
[HTC Rezound] tonictonic:
Like I said before these data caps are designed to hit even low bandwidth users. Unless if you live an utterly mundane life there is no way your data usage is going to be a perfectly defined amount each month.

Overages cost more per gigabyte than actually paying for it outright. They want people to buy excess capacity. If you are ever in a situation where you need the extra bandwidth and didn't prepare for it you are SOL.
[HTC Rezound] Piaband:
The only waythis sh*t ends is the lose q lot of ****ing customers.

Rezound, s-off, loving it.
[HTC Rezound] smartens82:
I have 2 lines with individual plans. 450 min each and unlimited text/data ($180). After looking at my past few months data usage between the 2 lines the most data we have used is about 2.5 Gb. Switching to the shared 4 Gb ($150) will save me a little $$$. That being said I am Connected to WiFi most of my day if something were to change there it might be a different story.

There is just something about having unlimited data that I love though and would hate to give up.
[HTC Rezound] xdadevnube:
I think I found a way to keep unlimited for longer, but you still don't get subsidy pricing on new phones.

You just add bonus minutes to you account, which then extends the contract out one year. I presume that an extended contract = no unlimited denial.

Still gotta keep your old phone or buy a phone outright...
[HTC Rezound] joeythesleeper:
I think the pricing structure is a little out of whack. I have 4 lines. And pay 200. With 1400 mins, unlimited texting, and 2 smartphone data plans.

So my bill will be 2x40 + 2x30 = 140 just for the phones. Then for 4 gigs of data its another 70. When its 60 right now. So basically my will would be more under it. I think the hardware prices are overpriced. Smartphones should be 30 because the features for talk and texting are the same as a basic phone.

Heck, there probably should be a discount for having a certain amount of devices.
[HTC Rezound] zekemo:
Sad news. If I don't get to keep unlimited data I'm jumping the smart phone ship and getting a dumb phone :O
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
Let us know how that goes...not sure anyone can go from smart to dumb phone (especially advanced users who browse XDA).
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
Whats interesting is that, for me, I have three lines, 450 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data, and my bill sits at about 270. With this, I would have 40x3, plus 100 for 10GB, and pay 220.

So it seems like its design for plans with multiple smartphones, and f***s everyone else.

Sent from my evolving Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] zekemo:
It's all part of my plot to become less dependant on technology >:]
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
Not sure why you wouldn't have combined into a family plan yet...you've been overpaying for quite some time.

700 shared (assuming low minute usage) with unlimited text and 3x unlimited data = $80 + $30 + $90 = $200 and tack on applicable discounts.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
alot will change in the next 18 months. t-mobile throttles at 2gb and sprint will have lte in how many markets by then?

Good luck. You will have to pay etf if you leave early and sprint will only have a few lte markets open to start. very slow rollout.

I could and just get a tablet which has much cheaper data. Currently I have an umlimited hotspot from TWC that could keep me if this gets much worse.

yeah, something is wrong there. I have 5 lines and before insurance and taxes, it runs 250, it would be 290 for the 10gb plan with my 5 lines.
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
Isn't it $300? $40x5 + $100?
[HTC Rezound] base0x02:
there are only 3 major carriers now and they all match each others offerings. Eventually the bit 3 will have the same types of plans for the same prices. Its collusion.

Personally, this plan makes sense for me. I have an iPad i occasionally use cell data on and would like to have that shared with my 2 LTE phones. We'll get to add the iPad and have a bill $5 less than we have now (coming off unlimited to one of the caps we've never hit before). I welcome this. IMHO VWZ is the best of the 3 and i think its worth the money I currently pay.

Are overages still $10/Gigabyte? IF so thats not unreasonable.
[HTC Rezound] desisangel:
Nope, overages will be $15 per gb. If you know you'll need more than 10gb per month, you can add on an additional 2GB for $10.
[HTC Rezound] joeythesleeper:
From what I got out of the warning msg is that you'll get a text that your nearing your limit. If you accept the 2gb add on, its only 10. If you decline and go over, its 15 per gb.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But that's what I interpreted out of it.
[HTC Rezound] putney1477:
What legal issues? I was thinking of going prepaid as well...but not sure if the service is any good
[HTC Rezound] Tag798:
You can actually set a plan up for more that 10gigs/month if you actually need it... It is $10/2gigs... But you can get a monthly of up to like... 30gigs