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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Well... another update.. sigh

1. battery life: thought it improved... but not really. during sleep mode.. yea, it did before compared to .21 ... but when in use (such as browsing and etc), it is burning battery life quickly compared to .21 ... so, it is more or less.. give & take...

2. games: umm... still getting reboot and etc on few games. mainly on tegra 3 games...

3. WIFI: yup, still garbage.... WIFI + Bluetooth... yup still garbage...

4. Browsers: Haven't had ANR on stock browser, but it is def. sluggish & hang/freezes more often (where u would typically get ANR msg)

Dolphin & ICS+ browsers.... you, still getting ANR about the same rate..

Google Chrome.... performing well enough to actually use it now. def. improved in this build compared to before... but still getting ANR

Conclusion: Fixed nothing... more issues added from .21

I'm really ticked at how my display has screen tear on the left side sporadically... & status bar tilts up & down. This really pisses me off....

No NvFlash yet (i seriously doubt we'll get it) so I don't feel comfortable enough to unlock and mess around with Prime. Each update since launch is making my Prime worse..... No root, complete stock.. only a handful of apps installed since launch.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gene_wildhart:
I can confirm the new 0.28 update still has problems when running applications compiled using the ARMv7 (Tegra 2/3) instruction set when hitting high cpu/memory loads.

Again, compiling apps using the older ARMv5 instructions appears to be a workaround at the cost of significantly reduced performance.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] point_pt:
Updated two days ago my US C3 Prime.

For now:

- battery usage seems equal to .21 (only two chargesso far, with lots of gaming, so, i have to test more). I see on details that wi-fi usage is less, but overall, i only got about 5 hours of autonomy, like on .21....

- games are equal to .21, stable like rocks (i tested cut the rope experiments HD, riptide GP and galaxy on fire THD)

- ANR issue, is not an issue any more.

- WI-FI - seems equal to .21.... less signal than my other devices, but overall works fine.

- bluetooth + GPS - i don't use it..

Overall, this was a great update for my Prime, since it solved the ANR isues, the only ones i got.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mythoc:
Browser rocks on new firmware.. Device feels smoother!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Got_Nukes:
After update I've had no browser wait messages. The UI is now smooth, whereas before scrolling up or down had a lag in it. Face unlock doesn't work in low light. The Asus task manager now only shows 3 apps in the list of running processes. No a big deal to me. I have not had any random reboots so far, but when I unplugged my prime and dock from the charger this morning, I couldn't turn it on. This was my first SOD. It finally booted after holding the pwr button for about 20 sec. Overall I'm very happy with the performance of this now. Hopefully, the SOP was a fluke and I won't have any more. Thanks Asus for the continuous improvement to my Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
Lol, now the stock browser doesn't even bother with the wait-close or force-close, it just closes. This happened before as well, but not as much. I am beginning to wonder if Asus is playing a cruel joke, and did I actually drop $500 on what might just be the biggest POS tablet ever released. Really, I don't ask for much. I don't play games, all I want is reliable internet browsing and a reliable way to view PowerPoint presentations. Asus failed at producing a tablet with even the most basic functionality. There are issues with Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, battery life, and the OS, and I honestly can't think of a single thing Asus actually got right.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
Well I have had one hangup in the browser now and the screen flickering others have mentioned. Reboot seems to have eliminated it since.

Wifi/BT has been consistently better than all other firmwares I've used. Used to struggle to get 2M down at least I can hit 5 now. While it is nothing great its more than enough now to listen to music and watch netflix for me. No random rebooting and tablet seems to be sleeping fine.. no significant battery changes either here
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
LOL! I love coming to this forum every now and then to see how more and more people complain and the same people defend ASUS...

If you want a faster, smoother, and better working Prime, unlock the bootloader and install another ROM. AOKP has been the best for me so far.

Also, careful to complain guys... This is a "review" thread, not a complaint thread. So you might find your posts get deleted. I expect mine to be deleted because i called out some of the hypocrisy here and because i advertised AOKP. AOKP does kinda rock though...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jrkart99:
Saying thank you

Updated my review at the 24 hour mark.

I just wanted to say thanks to folks for trying to stay objective/constructive with their posts. I think this is definitely a great thread that has a good community feel to it. i know it gets fustrating when people spend their loot on something and it doesnt always work the way they want. I believe that solutions are out there, and this update shows that it can move the user experience to a positive direction, especially if we work together as a community.

I neither defend nor accuse Asus for anything, unless of course there is hard evidence to do so. I do want to give them feedback about how their product performs, both positive and negative, in a manner that they will (hopefully) listen to. If we just all ***** and moan, the whole thing stops, and everybody feels crappy and negative.

So thank you for your continued support of this thread, i'll wrap up my review after the weekend. I will start a new one once we get another update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MXR2:
For the past 10 hours since my Factory Reset. Gradually, the stability of my TFP gets better. Strange but true. No more left side artifacts. I can finally run mass effect normally. Spent the last 3 hours surfing the web using the stock browser. So far only once ANR, but its due to page loading a new link. But only once, other than that it's been fine.

Weird but I shall continue to monitor.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
Since when does the responsibility of providing a solid ROM rest with the end user and not the manufacturer? And for the record, I have tried just about every ROM there is, including AOKP and Gummy. Point is, we should not have to unlock and void warranty just to get a usable device. At least the community has made this device marginally usable, and I commend the devs for that. But to summarize my "review" and my other posts, the same issues that I had with .21 are still there with .28, and I don't feel that anything has been fixed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
Meh

Setup:

- Running Neon Mircocosom LWP

- Rooted and using EZOverclock at balanced mode

- That's it I have not changed anything else

After three days of usage:

* Wi-Fi

- Still weak, I am about 6 meters from a room with the door open and the router beside the open door and I only get 2 bars! My SGS gets 4!

* Desktop usage

- Desktop scrolling and going into Apps drawer improved

* Stock Browser / Opera / Chrome

- Smooth scroll improved by a small amount but pinch zoom sucks

- Got some ANRs

* You tube

- Scrolling improved

* Appy Geek - Tablet version

- Smooth scrolling not improved at all

* Games

- Never had problems before and same now

Update okay so far (no SODs) but scrolling smoothness is still a let down and for a premium device ($792 AUD) this is unacceptable.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Hmmm.. more issue. Fully discharged the battery last night... and charged it back up fully over night....

for some odd reason.. GPS is activating on its own in the background... and draining battery quickly.

another soft reset didn't help.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
Just fired up Xen Pinball THD to see how it performs with .28 (pretty much every time I tried it with .21, it would lock-up or shutdown 5-10 seconds after starting to play a table.)

Unfortunately, same behaviour with .28. I launched it, and shortly after starting a game, it just closed back to my home screen, no notification. To make sure it wasn't just an anomaly, I tried 2 more times, and same thing happened 2 more times.

I did a reboot, and it plays fine.

So, it seems there's still the corruption over time or whatever the hell is going on.

VERY disappointed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GMC7000:
Anyone know if this update is "up" for everyone now? I ask because I'm still not getting the notification, nor is the tablet finding any updates when I search. The caveat is that my Prime had been RMA'd for the unknown serial issue before, and this will be it's first attempt at updating since.

My tablet is due to be RMA'd again for a different issue, but if it still can't update, I'll call and see if I can get this issue dealt with too while it's in there.

I'm in Canada, on stock WW, no unlocks.

I've also heard applying this particular update fixes the whole serial unknown/no updates problem, can anyone confirm? If that's the case, I'll just dl it and put it on manually.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ready2Mosh:
I haven't had any problems with games, until now. I was playing Zen pinball in balanced mode played 1 minute then crash straight to setup menu Sri I figured it needs performance mode now, same crap, crash.

Rooted, c4o prime.

Getting frustrated with this!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] big_mac_69:
.28 working great for me. Couple ANR's in browser after upgrade but none since a warm reset. . UI very smooth now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
Just downloaded Max Payne and tried it out... was going okay, until the screen started flashing and froze... exited using the home button.

Something interesting (might just be a co-incidence), but it seemed to happen right as a gmail notification popped up in my taskbar.

Demandarin, if you're reading this, I saw a post where you mentioned that .29 has better thread scheduling with respect to background apps... is this connected at all?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
Also got a SOD and the browser seems to exhibit a delay when scrolling. Pages also load very slowly. Did a soft reset and it still happens.

As a whole it seems more stable than .21 and the battery definitely discharges more slowly but the SOD issues are still present.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] poinkiee:
In the .21 version, I noticed the flickering/shifting maybe once in two weeks, and can be resolved by changing the orientation from landscape to portrait, and back to landscape again, but after the .28 update almost after every wake up, specially when using the face unlock feature.

I hope they can find a fix soon for this :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RJM77:
All I know is I spent $650 plus tax to learn that I'll never buy an Asus product again. My two year old rooted Evo 4G phone with ICS doesn't run as smoothly on the homescreens, but at least I can browse the net and use Gmail without taking forced 5 second breaks every few minutes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thenrz:
After 2 days now, no more anrs, but browser still hangs from time to time for few seconds. Device seems faster with things running in background, but one can still feel the io hickups.

Better. Not there yet, though...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aznmode:
Damn it. Nova 3 not working now. Screen flicker even after reboot and even after killing all other apps open.

EDIT: unchecked "Force gpu rendering" in development setting fixed it. Whew!

Wonder if those having game lock up has this checked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Nope, not using Force GPU rendering. Btw, the screen flicker and screen tear.. & even status bar tilting up and down happens sporadically. Reboot fixes it but it eventually returns sporadically (doesn't matter which app you use)... can't replicate it either. It's too sporadic.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aznmode:
Was worth a shot anyway. Great for me though. I was about to downgrade back to .21
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SalsaForte:
So far, so good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] woodsonmh:
All this after update. As mentioned in another post StumbleUpon has been a problem on my prime. On my acer no problems. After reading other post i tried StumbleUpon and was very disappointed. I also tried a terra game and it did not run. Other things looked pretty good. My gps showed sat inside although i didnt get lock, but before no sat at all. Reading here or elsewhere i don't remember it talked about doing soft reset. Vol down and power button for 12 sec. I have read about doing this in the past but never thought it would help with the few problems i was having. Today i did. StumbleUpon has never been better and tegra game worked fine. No big issues for me at this time with 28 update.

Woody
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdman:
Things are better

I did a lot more testing today and suddenly all my games are now working. The only thing I did was simply switch to performance mode....I really don't know if that is the answer and games like Dead Space will still crash and won't work until I reboot. I also deleted a bunch of ebooks off my drive...

Max Payne works beautifully and I was able to play through 4 chapters of DS so for now I'm happy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hic9582:
If I could surf the web as smoothly as on my nexus i would be happy. It's a headache on this thing still even after the update. I hear the next update is specifically for the browser though so i hope that's true.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vvveith:
Hour 49.

It has been forty nine hours since the update was installed. Just one more thing I noticed since the twenty four hour post. I was unable to play a game called Peggle. It's a very Chinese type pinball game and is not super graphic intense. It has never ran on the Prime since I bought it. I figured it was because of ICS. Out of curiosity I picked up my phone, which also is now running ICS, and decided to try to play the game on it. It played perfectly for over forty minutes! I would of played a bit longer but my supper was ready and I was not even planing on using the phone that long for a game, figuring it would crash.

And after reading all the reviews here, and seeing the varying results on a cross section of devices from B0 to C4's; it appears to be something very random on them all that causes certain things to fail on some, and work great on others. Which leads me to the conclusion that the problem lies either in the hardware itself, no two chips created exactly alike, or some bargain mass quantities of different chips were used, or really poor manufacturing and quality control, or a combination of both. For those of us experiencing problems, I do not believe now that they can ever be fully resolved with out extensive RMA and troubleshooting to find the faulty components in hardware and manufacturing, which would probably cost a small fortune for ASUS, so I don't think a recall is going to happen.

Maybe some resolution will come in the future, but I don't think those of us who feel cheated will ever realize full satisfaction. And those with a good device consider yourselves fortunate, for your investment as paid off for you!

I'm going to continue using the device in new ways that I never intended to just to find out all the peculiarities my device has. I will list them and hopefully by careful analysis we will be able to resolve issues that are common across many models of the device, but some of them I believe we'll either have to live with or go through the hell of an RMA, probably over and over until and if the problems is resolved even by those measures. I don't know what to think anymore. How can there be such varying results across such a wide group of devices? I'm stymied. Peace, V :confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] os2baba:
Unfortunately, the soft reset did nothing for me. It's just as bad as before.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] texstar:
All I got is a little performance boost with the .28 update. Everything else was pretty much the same for me. I haven't had much trouble since the .21 update. What has made the world of difference for me is getting root and using ezoverclock along with browser2ram. I can surf almost as fast as I can on the PC now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] os2baba:
Wait. I used a pin in the hole next to the micro SD card. I thought that was a soft reset. Is Power Button + Volume Down for 12 secs doing the same thing? Or is it the soft reset?

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No. Thank God, I don't have that!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] snailtail:
After update from .21 to .28 my HD games are working much better (GTAIII, Shadowgun, Demolition Inc) but I now get the dreaded 'Screen Artifacts' again only on the left side and only a certain length of the screen...very weird, wish they'd fix that one...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MXR2:
as hours past, my prime is behaving normally and most apps have no issue running. D:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] deadwolfbones:
Everything running a-ok on my end with .28.

Overall operation is much snappier. Lovin' it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mmilestone:
I actually encountered zero problems after the update. After a factory reset, update and the initial boot, rebooted it once more and let it stay for around 10 minutes before using it.

Given the i/o issues of this device, I didn't trust it enough to use it right away after an update. It seems in ICS some things don't get installed right away or some things/processes just take time to get updated/installed :confused: - just a gut feeling from experience.

:cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phat_11:
generally better but wifi still questionable on many aspects :s

installed the update on a C20KAS. I had average wifi in general, the signal strength never being a big issue but having lot of trouble with decent speed on a distance superior than 6 feet from the router. After the update the signal strength got somehow better on longer distances. But the speed I'm getting is quite unbalanced. There are some times where the speed can get up to 4mbps (of a possible 12mbps) on a distance like 12 feet and around 3mbps on something like 20 feet. I know that my router is not the best around, but so are not the ones you can have on a hotel or some meeting room or office. But sometimes the tests gave less eprformant results for the speed (down to 1mbps or even less for the same distances :(). So I'll run more tests but it's still not totally satisfying. In the meantime, I never had a big problem on the road on wifi connections with the previous update, so I'm guessing now it will be even slightly better. I'll try it also at the office where there's a hotspot and I had a lot of trouble with the previous update. I'll let you guys know if it behaves better.

I had the chance on playing with a TF300 on a shop yesterday. The wifi analyser was getting something between -70db and -78 db from a distance of approx. 15 feet from the router (according to the manager). The speedtest was between 8mbps and 12 mbps (out of a max 12mpbs). The device felt somehow a bit slower, not as snappy as our beloved Prime.

As for the battery life, since I spent the whole evening running tests and using the tablet, the few juice it had depleted quite fast :). I'll try to update on that as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MXR2:
really does feels like this. Everything so far so good for now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
I don't disagree at all! What I'm trying to say is, ASUS just really don't care. It seems as though they used this device to work out kinks for maybe the TF700 and the new windows tablets. The fact that they've been working on so many other products whilst their current products have HUGE problems, just shows you how thin they've spread themselves. I for one will never buy another ASUS product. The way the PR has been handled is also, to be quite frank, disgusting. If you gonna do something, do it properly, otherwise don't do it at all.

It seems mediocrity is the new black.

Anybody who disagrees with this just proves that point.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Good observation. It seems connected but can happen at random also. MAX Payne played fine on new build. All my other games play fine. Even played some modern combat 3 online and it played fine. Still too early to really comment on new build. I have a feeling we will get yet another build test out.

Something suggested, from them, if people still having browser ANR, try clearing the browser cache, then reboot. It seems to clear up ANR issues or hangs. Worth trying out since its so simple to do.

But the testing continues.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tangiers:
Browsing much better. No ANRs. Used to get them all the time.

Stock,not rooted. No dock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mirox3m:
Yesterday I downloaded a torrent with aDownloader https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.DroiDownloader

The download speeds are as on .21 but the tab becomes unresponsive at lower speeds on .28. Previously I have capped it on 1 megabyte dl and the TFP was usable. Now at these speeds I could not enter the app settings, the TFP freezes but keeps downloading.

As a comparison my dual core Galaxy Nexus with its "outdated" hardware is not affected at all at speeds exceding 2.5 megabytes.

Something is really wrong with TFP or Tegra3. Evidence for the poor multitasking, which is the selling point of quadcore CPU, is also the PlayStore downloading issue. I am still hoping that since Nexus Tablet will be Tegra3 things could get better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] _Man0waR_:
I had the same issues too on firmware .21 when the dock had no battery left at all. (The battery on the tablet was fine). Once I plugged the dock on the charger, after a few minutes all the artifacts disappeared. Not sure if it is related.

Regarding the firmware .28, I don't find it much different than .21. (Maybe a little faster but not much, it might be a placebo effect). I still have some 'ANR' when browsing some 'relatively heavy' websites including some flash. I don't see any improvements with the wifi signal. (It was already correct on .21 even when using the tablet quite far from the router). I had a HTC Desire HD when I bought the TF201 and I was obviously really impressed by the speed of the TF201 compared to that phone. However I recently bought a SGS III and I find the TF201 so much slower than that phone. I am not talking about benchmarks or heavy 3D graphics but the general user experience and smoothness. Installing apps takes much longer on the TF201 than on the SGS III. I have this tablet for a month now, I still enjoy it a lot, but it was supposed to be the 'top end' android tablet. It is a bit disappointing. I am thinking about installing a custom rom on it but I am not sure if it would really improves things (like the smoothness, the slow I/O...). Considering there is no way back, I am a bit reluctant even if I have some experience in rooting/flashing roms. If the issues are hardware related, flashing custom roms will not do miracles.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mirox3m:
I think it is a good point! :) My screen problems were when docked and dock battery near empty. Will test if it happens undocked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] AWhistler:
After two days...

The screen flicker problem has become worse on Firefox beta and now other apps. XDA dev jumps around a lot, and now on the whole screen, not just the left side. GlowBall does this too. Performing a cold boot didn't help, nor did the reset button. The device seems to lock up some apps at odd times. Hitting the home button and force close seems to be the only fix...the back button locks up too.

So far, I had better stability on .21 than .28. Off to clear data and try again.