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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cmo123:
I have two Tegra 3 devices (HTC One X and TF201), and the experience couldn't be more different. My only gripe with the One X is that it likes to reboot itself once a week or so. Aside from that, everything is silky smooth and browsing is a dream.

Turning to the Prime:

Cons

since the update to .28, I've experienced more browser "Wait/Close" messages, alongside general lagginess of the tablet across the board (especially Face Unlock - takes forever for the front camera to come online, to the extent that the screen times out).

Browsing on the Prime (regardless of the .28 update, although more so now - have Stock, Chrome and Dolphin installed with varying results on all of them, although Dolphin has the least ANRs) is an incredibly frustrating experience, especially on Flash sites. A simple scroll of a webpage up or down is enough to make the page freeze for a good few seconds.

Modern Combat 3 regularly freezes and then "skews" the frozen image, whilst the tablet still thinks you're playing, as you can clearly hear you interacting with the environment in real-time (i.e. firing a weapon by tapping the screen where you should do to fire), but the image is still frozen.

Sonic Episode 4 Part 2 is horribly stuttery.

StumpleUpon is pretty much useless.

Pros

I have no Wifi issues to speak of, and the battery life is great.

Max Payne Mobile works fantastically.

Conclusion

I am an average consumer who has a keen interest in technology, and I chose the Prime over the iPad 3 as I wanted a Flash-capable, customisable device (and having had great Android experiences on smartphones). I paid £500 for a beautiful, but fundamentally flawed device which often frustrates me when I use it. I'm holding out for 28.5/.29, and if that doesn't free up the true power of the Prime, it's going on eBay. You can understand why Apple has done so well when it's brought high technology to the masses in a way that doesn't require average consumers posting on a forum to sort fundamental issues out.

To quote my iPhone 4S-toting girlfriend, "Your tablet is not working well at all"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jordanmw:
This is the same as my experience. Also noticing graphics corruption on task switcher and have had a couple of reboots when launching apps.

This update is a disappointment.

Still beta testing ASUS's 6 month old $600 flagship tablet.... groan.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] justPorter:
Since .28 my prime has become very laggy, clicking on icons i have to sometimes wait 5 seconds before it reacts. On the plus youtube works much better for me and the when downloading updates from the playstore i can use my prime. I use browser2ram so my browsing hasnt changed. I tried to use dolphin with .28 and got an ANR after about 5 minutes so i went back to default browser with browser2ram.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bait-Fish:
My experience on .28 is better browser, less waits. I have been running without Browser2Ram, which I uninstalled before updating, and browsing is definitely tolerable. Very much an improvement there.

Better overall, but coming from a XOOM and compared to the same old phone I had along with that XOOM, my Prime still underwhelms me. Something is still amiss.

Edit/s: Forgot to add that .28 did introduce occasional visual artifacts, quick horizontal banding, left side verticle band. And, had a handful of SODs while docked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MiscBec:
My screen tearing is getting worse. It's just started doing it on the home screen itself- I've only ever seen it before in different apps. I've reinstalled Firefox (where it is consistently the worst), and cleared the caches multiple times on the stock browser and Chrome, as per Gary's instructions. I've done multiple cold boots (at least I believe that's what I'm doing- start up with the power key and volume down pressed- it says it's "cold booting linux", and I think that clears some of the system cache... RAM at least....). I haven't ventured into the realm of reinstalling the firmware from SD card- I don't have time, and I don't feel confident enough that I wouldn't screw it up. It doesn't sound like it's fixed the issue for everyone either...

But, the UI does seem more responsive with this release... I'm hoping that with the number of people now reporting the screen issues they'll make sure they address it in the next update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] valentinrascu:
??wich tool? :-)

Inviato dal mio Transformer Prime TF201 con Tapatalk 2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
Hasn't done this to me in a couple days now but I also am hoping next release addresses this
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MadmanJay:
Well I have been using the. 28 firmware since its north American release. I think this update has been the most buggy for me.

I have noticed the following problems:

- I have had about 3 reboots on. 28 so far

- I have had more ANR screens on. 28. Seems to be various apps.

- I have had the corrupt graphics on the left side issue once. A reboot seems to have fixed it. I rarely play games so not sure if it will come back if I did. I have NEVER had this problem on previous builds.

- I have experienced extreme lagging at times. Seems related to Google Play updates mostly.

- I have not noticed any improvements on wifi or bt performance.

- Gmail freezes sometimes when loading. Only way to fix is to reboot.

On a positive note:

- Stock browser does seem faster for me but still lags on some pages

I have always done a hard reboot immediately after all the firmware updates and I have Flushed the browser cache as per suggested. Doesn't seem to make much difference.

I honestly think my tablet ran the best on the .15 and. 17 firmware builds. I even think my wifi worked better on those builds as well.

I have a C10 model grey.

Could it be that Asus has a slightly different android image in use and one factory is pre loading a working version and another has a not so good one. Would this explain why the updates seem to break working ones and fix broken ones and vice versa? Might also explain why it is not isolated to a particular serial number range. I dunno... just talking out loud now. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Hasan10:
Revisiting the thread:

OK so earlier I said that I was having the graphical glitch issues, and also browser had gotten worse than .21. Now that it has been about a week and also did a factory reset of my prime, these graphical glitches still exist and can easily be provoked. HOWEVER, the prime is definitely faster and snappier. It is in a sense because on .21 I had overclocked with custom mod build file, and prime was running beautifully. On .28, I have absolutely nothing modded but only AdBlock installed. The stock .28 performs either better or equivalent to the modified .21, minus the graphical glitches.

The browser is also great and flash also works great (forced desktop mode), despite a little quirky on .28 compared to .21.

Please ASUS, all you gotta do is fix the graphical glitches in the next update, THATS IT. I know you fixed it in .21 as I NEVER even ONCE had them.

EDIT: Oh just found out something. The occurrence of graphical glitches is actually reduced by almost 70% if you turn OFF "forced GPU" in dev settings.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
Test restarted

So, I had problems with the new release, so I started it from the ground. As Zephyrot recommended I did a full wipe (boot to bootloader with holding vol- and power button then press vol- to start the wipe), launch Android, but do not enter any infos, accounts, and than when it offers you to install the full firmware from sd, just do it. (Of course you had to put the firmware on the sd-card beforehand.)

So, now I have a rootless rom, and I didn't root either. No TB, which is a pain, but so far the rom works. (In my good old Desire days I've read about roms that became unstable with TB.) It's only for one day, so I can't be sure, but:

- browser is indeed better

- I do have some screen flickers what I didn't have on .21

- I haven't tried games yet, but I will report

- it seems to be responsive

That's it. The tablet works, does what it has to, but I wouldn't say it's extraordinary.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mroshaw:
Hi all!

I'm new to the forum and new to the ATP, so "hi!"

Thought I'd throw in my two pennies to say that .28 has done my ATP no favours at all.

Browser still gives constant ANP

ATP is unusable while Play Store downloads updates

Refresh of home screen when using home is slow

Wifi reception is still appalling. I sit 8 feet from my BT Home Hub and only get 2 bars. In my home office, two rooms away, I still get no Wifi reception at all

I've just bought a Samsung Galaxy S3 running ICS 4.0.4 and it wipes the floor with the ATP in terms of usability and performance. Such a shame as the spec of the ATP suggests it should not be made to look like a Commodore 64 (yeah, I was a Spectrum owner) compared to my S3. :crying:

Fingers crossed that Asus sort this out sharpish, but my worry is that they clearly stated that .28 was meant to 'address ANR issues' but it has clearly failed to do so. I really hope there isn't a hardward issue here that means we'll never see satisfactory performance from the device.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
Hopefully, if it is a hardware issue, ASUS will do the right thing and replace the faulty bits (read slow memory/flash) with a RMA.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jupppo:
I hope not, that took 4 month (!) in my case
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] valentinrascu:
28 update is better here.wifi is the same...anyway, this is beta tablet and we are free testers....I HATE TO SAY THIS,BUT APPLE IS ****ING BETTER...!!!

Inviato dal mio Transformer Prime TF201 con Tapatalk 2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ill1:
I am an average consumer who has a keen interest in technology, and I chose the Prime over the iPad 3 as I wanted a Flash-capable, customisable device (and having had great Android experiences on smartphones). I paid £500 for a beautiful, but fundamentally flawed device which often frustrates me when I use it. I'm holding out for 28.5/.29, and if that doesn't free up the true power of the Prime, it's going on eBay. You can understand why Apple has done so well when it's brought high technology to the masses in a way that doesn't require average consumers posting on a forum to sort fundamental issues out.

To quote my iPhone 4S-toting girlfriend, "Your tablet is not working well at all"[/QUOTE]

More than surveys (I respect and understand the effort) and pleading with asus to fix the prime, we should copy the conculsion of your post and place it on their offical website (WHICH HAS NO SECTION FOR ANY TABLETS??!!) about a 1000 times.

I don't think anything better states what asus should understand about the prime than what you wrote. Thank you.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] transprime:
wifi also minorly better reception in .28, though i never really had wifi problems before :P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cdx47:
Pre. 28

No screen tearing (fixed by previous update)

Stock browser slow and lots of pauses

Chrome browser faster but still with pauses and pretty unstable

Wireless weaker than mobile and would just stop working for no reason

No wireless after screen unlock and difficult to get working

Post. 28

Stock browser faster and no pauses

Chrome browser even faster, no pauses and now stable

Wireless still weaker than mobile but improved and stable

Still many times no wireless connection after return from screen lock but easier to get working

Getting better with every update............... So far.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clenz:
Ugh - now I see what everyone is talking about with screen tearing! This sucks.

Everything was fine for a long time, but the ANRs are getting more frequent and now screen tearing. Only 3 days left for the return period. I just got everything setup the way I like it and now it's going back....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] welrope:
Same here. Im a silver member with best buy so i have had a month to spend with the device and i have had all i can stand. Believe i am returning it tomorrow for something else to play with/try. Games play fine, love the layout, but the screen tearing and insanely slow I/O is way to much to deal with when i have over 700 invested in this thing. After seeing the I/O scores i don't expect the infinity to be much better. Guess I'm gonna hold out for something that works. I really despise Apple, but i am considering trying the ipad 3 to see how it performs compared to my zoom(which was flawless by the way, may just continue to use it, but the geek in me wants a new toy).

Has anyone played with the excite 7.7 or whatever with the amoled screen and can you give your opinion and results of any benchmarks-specifically I/O related and how does the tablet perform when really multitasking. (like downloading apps from market and using the tablet. My prime will lock up if I do this.)

Also, how do you like the smaller screen? Does it seem to small to be useful as a Mainly gaming/video/text editing tablet?

Thanks for any feedback on the 7.7

Lastly, what tablets are out or coming up other than the infinity that any of you have your eye on? I like to use my tab for a year or so so i want to make a good investment (as new hardware as possible).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] woodsonmh:
This is what i do and i don't have the problems reported by others. I watch for and shut down apps that use a lot of backgound cpu time when i don't need them. I use a program called watchdog. Many features work unrooted . I finally paid for app so i could shut down apps if they were using to much background cpu cycles. I also started using cache cleaner a couple times a day. Should i need to do these things. No, bit until tings smoth down i will.

I have a chose of ics tablets. I use my prime the most. If it were the dog everyone seems to talk about i wouldnt use it. I also have a rooted nook tablet, i like it and rooted nook is pretty good tablet. My kindle fire thats okay. A netbook for travel, a notebook and desktop. 90% of mys computing is on my prime. I don't play games a lot but i do stream a lot. Oh yes i set my IP setting to static. Learned this helped,gaming and possible stability several tablets ago.

I am sorry for those having all theses problems. I cant recognize the machines they are taking about. Primes got a way to go but you may find out so do a other tablets your looking at.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vittogn:
Very limited testing so far.

The browser is nowhere close to SGS3 in term of smoothness.

I start thinking tegra 3 is the issue. Curious to see Nexus tab!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] parker7:
If I had a chance to go back in time, i wouldn't buy it, even with the update. I will be patient and wait before buying anything on release day after this. It is still the galaxy s of tablets, just not quite there, but the next version could be the s2. But I will be letting others make the mistake of buying first.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tiwiz:
Hello everyone,

after new update my tablet keeps on going to hard sleep mode and it doesn't wake until I connect it to the AC... I even downloaded last firmware and reflashed from USB, didn't happen for 2 days and now again... any other solution?

Tiwiz
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MXR2:
same here. I'd really hope I have kept the money and wait for Galaxy Note 10.1 instead.

I was really impressed with the tablet that ASUS promised it to be, but never with the product that they actually delivered to us. It's just not the TF201 that ASUS promised it to be. And what's with the supernotes? You can't even draw lines properly with that cheap rated digitizer ASUS installed into the prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
Yup I feel your burn. I want a lawsuit!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chazam:
Well, after reading the tips on wiping and reinstalling the .28 firmware via SD card, 24 hours in and all seems well so far.

Performance is still way below what I expect out of a £499.99 quad core tablet with occasional hiccups and freezes but things are better.

The most annoying thing about being a Prime owner was my previous tablet was a Motorola Xoom and whilst the screen on the Xoom was utter crap Tegra 2 struggled with most of my 3d games, general usage on my Xoom was flawless compared to this.

The screen, size, weight and keyboard dock are perfect on this thing but the software bugs have really left a bad taste for Asus tablets for me. I do hope Asus get around to sorting these quirks out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
I was stoked when I first heard about a Nexus tablet, as every one of my Nexus phones has been AWESOME. However, that excitement disappeared when I heard Asus was making it. I am never buying another product from Asus again after this crap with the Prime. Never.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] AWhistler:
If you never buy any Asus product again, you will miss out on top notch gaming laptops and netbooks, just to name two. Asus tablets are bad now. Don't know why, and they hurt Asus' reputation, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
It's not just the product - it's also the way Asus has acted as a company. For example, I want to RMA my Prime for bad LCD mura near the center of the screen, but I'm not doing it because of all of the RMA horror stories I've read here on XDA. I want nothing to do with this company ever again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SalsaForte:
The funny or not so funny thing is that if I based my thinking on this particular thread, I'm the only one with an overall good experience. I only experience the "icons disappearing/transparent desktop". I don't experience instability.

I don't say the TF201 is perfect, but with every updates it only gets better for me.

I would not hesitate to RMA it. The price tag is high, I expect a good service.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cvflowe:
I am upset with a lot of things about the prime, but the RMA process has been nothing but positive since Tein took over. I recently sent my prime in for WiFi/Bluetooth issues, although not great at least it doesn't drop.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
Tein is the new Asus employee on these boards, right? If I RMA it by contacting him, will it go through a different type of process? I've seen so many reports of both (1) RMAs taking 1-2 months, and (2) customers being told they were responsible for damage done at the RMA facilities. These are the two reasons I'm afraid to RMA.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jflikk:
So after upgrading to the last update everything was working fine, but I never checked the camera. Well I went and tried to use it today and I get the following a green screen and a bunch of static. I have tried cold booting and rebooting but neither of them worked. The front camera works great, but I can't figure out how to get the rear camera working. Any ideas?:confused: (I would post the screen shot but have less then 10 replies)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
I'm sorry that I don't have an answer for you, but I've seen others have this happen as well. I didn't see a solution though, and the consensus seemed to be to RMA it. Sorry.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bait-Fish:
I read about others too and saw someone link to a help thread too. It involved changing the camera resolution and a few other steps to get it to unfunk. I can't find the reference with my mobile though. I feel like it was possibly in this thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PolishPoet:
Play Store sucks

Every, and I do mean every, device sucks when it's downloading. That takes ecstasy dang bit if COULD time rbere
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] snailtail:
So since .28 update I have started getting Random Reboots that I've never had before, along with the Screen Artifacts issue
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
Same here. I've had both issues introduced with the .28 update. At this point, you'd think Asus would get their heads out of their asses, but I've pretty much accepted the fact that the Prime is what it is - a poorly designed tablet from an irresponsible company.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
For me, the following has happened 3x since .28:

Use the Prime for a couple of minutes, close the lid, open again after a few minutes and wham SOD!

I hate ASUS! (:mad)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cvflowe:
Yes, Tein is the new guy. I took a lot of pre and post photos. The entire process took about 2 1/2 weeks. That total time was my shipment their, repair and the return.

Good luck!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
Thanks a lot. I think I'm finally going to RMA mine, as this mura in the middle of the screen is really driving me crazy. One last question - I promise! Did you set up the RMA via phone or did you contact Tein through XDA and don't that way? Thanks again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dgjl:
The ATP is like one of those classic cars some folks bang on about. It's a design marvel, everything about it's looks and its ambition is perfect and way ahead of anything else available in its era. It will always look good - but you do spend an awful lot of time with it in pieces all over your driveway!

(That said, my ATP works wonderfully well 99% of the time.)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pooblej:
Quick Fix - Apps closing

With .28 (Standard build), Opera (12.3) would close randomly - however following a reinstall, and reboot - so far all the sites that did crash / force it to close no longer!

I urge you to attempt the same - as the browser also feels faster and it resolved my issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cyleo:
Did the same a while ago and performance is definitly improved, though engadget still brings my browser to his knees.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pooblej:
What I can not understand is why would a reinstall of a 3rd party browser have such a positive outcome ? Must be due to installation order ...

However my SOD's have stopped since .28 (had loads in .21) and since the reinstall everything is fine. Touch wood!!! Most odd.

Looking forward to .29 and Jellybean (we can hope)!