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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Does fastboot work for you? You probably went with the "stock-looking" option of the customizer, I assume. If it works, then you likely used the customizer after regaw updated with the updated LP HBOOT. At any rate, it doesn't matter, as you can do what you want.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kaos420:
ya mine is soff and unlocked and says locked and s-on. i went the hidden way. pretty sure fastboot works. ive adb pulled before.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
adb and fastboot aren't the same :rolleyes:. One you use in bootloader, the other you use while booted up.

If you want to test it, try to flash the current recovery through bootloader.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kaos420:
oh ya that always works. i can flash any recovery through hboot no issues at all. i just updated my firmware to the new base through boot loader as well.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
When you say "through bootloader", you mean using "fastboot flash", not using a PJ75IMG, right?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scoot0073:
I'm currently on LP hboot 1.12.2222

Baseband 1.12.11.1210

So I'm clear to flash the latest threw bootloader?

And also do you know if flashing the latest firmware will Bork my Page Plus flash?

sent from my HTC Evo LTE cm10.2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
Yes you're good. The firmware update shouldn't affect you being on another carrier, either.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scoot0073:
Thanks FinZ28

Full Firmware flash smoothly.

And didn't Bork my Page Plus flash :D

Thank you sir for your time

sent from my HTC Evo LTE cm10.2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
No problem:cool:

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gpz1100:
I'm flashed to another provider similar to pageplus (nextg).

Flashed the non extended firmware update (http://d-h.st/suW), phone rebooted fine, all nam programming remained intact.

Observations: Signal strength (db) appears about the same as before. However data does seem faster. Might just be placebo too, we'll see over the next week.

Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] REVREN:
Hey captain, I've looked everywhere for RegawMod Bootloader Customizer, but with no luck would you happen to have the link to that Mod?

I would greatly appreciate it,as I've had my evo lte seens release day and I s-off'd my evo the moment lazypanda was released.

And I've got hboot=1.12.1111

(update)I found the topic thanks anyways I'll be looking into the mod to replace the hboot.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vandymcnew:
Not sure what I did wrong. I downloaded and renamed the file, saved it to phone, rebooted, went through the install process but im still showing baseband 1.12.11.1119, build 3.16.651.3, PRI 2.87_003 and PRL 25016. Ideas?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
You weren't very specific. To troubleshoot, you need to be. Are you S-OFF? What did it say when you flashed, exactly? Which file did you flash?

Software version and PRL won't change from flashing anything here, by the way.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vandymcnew:
Sorry about that.

Im S-OFF. When I copied the renamed 3.17.651.4 Jellybean OTA from mikmik.com to my sdcard root, rebooted, it went through updating 231 items then came back to my main screen after reboot. In the description it stated it included radios, PRI, etc.

(Changed OTS to OTA)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Maybe you should try it again? The file definitely works. You renamed the file to EXACTLY PJ75IMG.zip, put the file on your external card, and confirmed that you wanted to update the items? After it completed, it told you to press power to reboot?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gpz1100:
Rebooted to where exactly? Recovery or bootloader?

Edit, and yes, the update does work. Did it myself a few days ago with successful results.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] deedeebulldog:
I am having a similar issue. My baseband was the only thing that updated (1.13.11.0830), but I am still on build 3.16.651.3.

I am s off. ran it through bootloader twice. Downloaded the file again. I guess I will keep trying.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gpz1100:
^^You are updating the firmware(radio/baseband), not the rom. You're fine if it shows 1.13.11.0830 .
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
FAQ, Post 2, 3rd question from the bottom.

In the future, I'm not even going to answer questions that are already covered there.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vandymcnew:
I verified the file is on the external sd card. At first it wasn't, my bad. I verified the name matches PJ75IMG.zip. Once the file was placed on the external sd card, I tried to ........ UGH!!! BANG BANG BANG (thats me banging my head on the desk!). It just updated with hboot. I believe we have a winner winner chicken dinner. Sorry about that! All my fault. I just rebooted and didn't go back into hboot, rookie mistake. It's been too long since I have updated anything! I got it, verified all is golden Thanks Captain!

Any preference on the best ROM out there? I'm running Stock with Goodies 3.43 currently.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] deedeebulldog:
Thank you. I just assumed with the title saying Latest: 3.17.651.4 OTA i thought it would. Wasn't thinking rom.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Feech:
Just so I'm clear. I can flash this on a CM based ROM?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
Yes.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] nunook:
Just info for someone else reading.

I flashed the new firmware and was running the 3.16 stock rooted rom. A couple days later the 4g stopped working. when I turned on mobile data it would connect and then disconnect non stop. No change after rebooted, format cache/dc. I installed the new 3.17 stock rooted rom, and the issue went away.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] power_tennis:
Thanks meter applied again Capt!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KEB64:
Firmware zip

So I've got the stock software 3.17.651.4 installed. Thank you Captain_Throwback for making this available. I scavenged up an external SD card for the firmware zip. I installed the zip via bootloader and it seemed sucsessful, telling me to press power button for restart but the new baseband version is not being declared in hboot or in settings. The file is on external SDcard2, re-named to PJ75IMG.zip, auto-loaded from bootloader.

I'm wondering if this is a file permissions thing?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
Re-download the firmware zip, rename & place on the root of your SD card again, and try to update through the bootloader.

This is the file you should be using:

http://d-h.st/RbT

What is your radio firmware (baseband) version now?

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KEB64:
That works. I was trying to install the small 5mb or so version listed here at xda in the software thread. This newer zip is 26 something mbs. I was on the last firmware version before this. 1.12 something.

Bravo to the dev community for this kinda thing. Especially Captain_Throwback for putting this together so quickly after the OTA. Its nice to have options. Lets see, unlocked bootloader, check. S-off, check. Root, check. Custom ROMs, check. The ability to use OTA software and firmware, double check.

Here's hoping this will improve my signal. I must live in an area where it is just barely legal for Sprint to even advertise.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lreyes:
i flashed the full zip and all but my base band still says 1.12? should I redo it?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
What is your radio version as indicated by the bootloader?

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lreyes:
That's what I first checked and it said 1.12 and it said 1.12 in my settings.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Did you flash the right zip? :D

Maybe you downloaded the old one by mistake
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
Make sure you use this zip:

http://d-h.st/RbT

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lreyes:
I downloaded the right one. It said 3.17 full PJxxxx and stuff
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Are you sure it flashed?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lreyes:
It said update complete. Ill retry it again though
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coastal:
hboot can't find PJ75IMG.zip

I'm baffled. I've done this over and over and each time the bootloader loops through the PJ75 filenames and finds nothing. I have not misnamed the file (PJ75IMG.zip with no extra zip or any other competing file in root) or put it in the wrong place (checked with Astro and the CM stock file manager, and it is at the root of my *external* sd card). I am S-OFF (moonshine) with hboot 2.09 and baseband 1.12.11.1210.

The only thing I can think of is that my external SD card is screwed up somehow, but hboot doesn't seem to think there's a problem and certainly I have no trouble with it and any ROM. Or, that my SD card is a 64 gig samsung SDXC Class 10 UHS-1, maybe hboot doesn't like 64 gig or SDXC cards? Anyone have any experience with this.

Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
I assume your card is formatted FAT32? If it isn't, that's your problem. Have you tried a different SD card? You can always use the fastboot method to flash the zip, rather than HBOOT.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coastal:
Excellent. You've got it re: FAT32. Also I had overlooked/not seen the instructions on the fastboot method. That will work perfectly for me. Thank you!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Alright, looks like I'm about to update everything. Recovery from 2.5 to 2.6.3, radios, and hboot. Scary. Should I do the TP update, or is that still bad. ? Been on hboot 1.12 s-off since it became available (lazy panda).

Thanks.

I need a bottle for the nerves for this lol.

Edit:guess I should wait battery is better than 11%, huh lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
The touch panel update is fine unless you plan on running an old Sense or old AOSP ROM, and I don't know why you would bother with so many newer ROM's available. Also, I updated my Hboot yesterday with the Rumrunner Hboot. Easy & painless:thumbup:

Here's the link to the Rumrunner Hboot download:

http://rumrunner.us/hboots/

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Well, some people still like the ICS roms :o

_______________________________________

Phone: HTC EVO 4G LTE

Rooted, Custom Rom & Kernel

Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2

Rooted, Stock Rom & Kernel
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
I don't think Scott is one of those people:p

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Wait...scott? I didn't notice who you quoted...I thought he would've been on the latest tp LONG ago!

[MENTION=1681704]scottspa74[/MENTION]: I'll only tell you once...UPGRADE YOUR TP!!! While you might not notice an amazing difference, if you use it for about 2 days, and downgrade to tp 3.15, you will see a noticable difference in the screen responsiveness, especially while typing. And I know that you like the latest stable rom that you can find, and all of them use the Linux 3.4.x kernel, which is compatible with TP 3.16.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rodohmes:
Cool, so I've downloaded the Rumrunner hboot. All I need to do is rename it to PJ75IMG.zip, reboot into bootlader and let it do it's thing, right?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
That will work, yes.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rodohmes:
Worked as expected. Went ahead and updated (finally) my touch panel too. Thanks [MENTION=1162986]Captain_Throwback[/MENTION] for everything you do for our device. :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
You guys are great. Thanks captain, fin, and aarsyl!

---------- Post added at 07:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:13 AM ----------

OK, I read stuff at the DL sit, and maybe I'm just not seeing it, but is the TP update included in the extended FW zip, or do I need to get it separately from the 3.16 link?

Thanks for everyone's patience.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I just updated hboot and ROM, now I wnn update firmware as well, I guess, but after updating hboot and ROM, my data speed has dropped so bad I can't even download the latest sense ROM so I can update prl etc.

I knew better. Word to the masses , newer does not mean better. I guarantee that running older firmware/radios will 90% of the time produce better results. The newer the firmware, the more you're being screwed by or sprint. Hang on to the oldest you can. I wish I could roll back., but I haven't read enough yet to know if that's possible. Still, this is my PSA: if it ain't broke Dont fix it, and 80% of the time, older radios are much better.

Radio "updates" are simply a way for sprint to throttle us more. At least, that's been my experience,..newer=worse.

Edit: wow, what kind of sanctimonious, know-nothing posted this?! Lol. Sorry everybody.

Update:

I gotta say, I was at work today and had solid LTE the whole time, I've never gotten 4g there before, so, either it was the update, or sprint improved towers in the last 4 days. (Had 4 days off).

Also, I thought I deleted any PJ75s off my SD. But tonight, I had random reboot and then power button wouldn't wake screen, so I longpressed power/volume down, and ended up in bootloader and accidentally reflashed either hboot or radio. :eek: Was terrified, always thought either if those would solid brick. Watched the update and couldn't stop it. Somehow, everything ended up fine. Except my nerves lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] adamlee011:
I haven't had that experience with radios but I can imagine. My service just sucks here so they can't do any worse lol. As far as the rest, I updated fw and tp separately and did not update hboot. Wasn't anything to drive me to drink ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
Well, Scott, you can always downgrade;)

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Again, I love you guys. ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Or you can always Upgrade to the One Scott :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] adamlee011:
Don't do it. Wait for the next one. My evo on haunted carbon is at least as good as my one and has an sd slot.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] newtooroot:
Need to get back to before Sprint connection optimizer

Need to get back to before Sprint connection optimizer was released. Early ICS.

Right now i'm on

3.16.651.3 710rd

CID 2222222

hboot 2.09.0000

radio 1.12.11.1210

SOFF, Not rooted

Which ruu will take my phone way back!

Thank you
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Wrong thread?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] newtooroot:
hell if i know

i have no clue what to use obviously.

i do know what i need though.

get back to ics b4 the sprint connection optimizer

which has issues with our router.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
Freeze the connections optimizer with Titanium Backup, or downgrade your touch panel driver and flash an older ROM.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] newtooroot:
well

freezing does nothing tried many times unfortunately.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chico260:
i have the zip renamed to update... then it says to send to root of "EXTERNAL" sd ... i cant locate it ... any suggestions ?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
You can't locate the zip or you can't locate the External sdcard?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chico260:
external sd card
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
So when you connect your phone to your PC via USB it does not show both sdcards?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chico260:
just internal
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrshades812:
You have a bad sd card it sounds like...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chico260:
Used a different one an it worked.. thnx everyone for the help :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sabz333:
I hope this thread is still alive, I tried flashing the latest radio update on the latest TWRP 2.7.0 but I just get an error. I'm hesitant to try and flash this through the bootloader because of the error trying to to do it through TWRP. Any suggestions??

Edit: Running CM11 3/09

basband: 1.12.11.1210

PRL: 25018
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chico260:
You place it on the root of external sd card then reboot to boot loader
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sabz333:
Thanks! Just wanted to make sure it wouldn't brick my device.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] nite2k:
NEW radio is perfect! Updated PRL and voila! Great 3g speeds in San Diego.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Adam1422:
which one...

is flashable through recovery

1. Jewel_Radio_1.05.11.0606

or

2. PJ75IMG_Jewel_Radio_1.05.11.0606

thanks in advance!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
If it says "PJ75IMG", than it's NOT flashable in recovery - it's a bootloader flashable. Option number 1 is the recovery-flashable version.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Captain,

Thanks for the firmware img. Between that and changing RTSP/HTTP proxy and ports, my 3G connection is kicking a$$ and taking names.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
Besides radio and pri what else is included in the full firmware file for s-off?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Some stuff I know nothing about. I think there's more information on that stuff in the OTA thread.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vacoray:
What did you change in the RTSP/HTTP proxy and ports?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Changed both proxys to 0.0.0.0 and ports to 0. Don't have time for full instructions now. I'll pm you with them later.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rippley05:
Ok, so I renamed it..put it on sdcard 2..rebooted to bootloader, pressed power to select bootloader and it appeared to install. I reboot and nothing changed? Baseband number is 1.02.12.0427
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
Hmm, not sure if i should flash the whole package or just the radio.

---------- Post added at 11:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 AM ----------

Just fyi, new version of twrp recovery is out with some cool new features. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1675738
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] WalleO:
i installed the Jewel Radio Collection posted by captain and my PRI is still 2.28_003. I installed thru recovery. isnt the new version supposed to be 2.45_003?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
The recovery version only includes the radio. You cannot flash the pri unless you are s-off and use the bootloader version.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
Can I s-off with htc dev unlock?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
No, only lazy panda.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
So relock, ruu, lazy panda, s-off?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
If you're already unlocked and rooted, then it's just Lazy Panda = S-OFF.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vacoray:
Ok Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] WalleO:
Is it still posible to S-OFF with lazypanda if you've already installed the deoxed ota rom? i didnt to the official OTA. I installed a rooted deoxed without the radios then installed the radios seperately. i still want to install the firmware package which includes the PRI 2.45.003. when i try to run lazy panda now it tells me it can't find the panda
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Not sure. You should probably go on IRC, and globatron should be able to help figure out what's going on. That's the same message I was getting. What HBOOT version do you have? 1.12?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] diestarbucks:
Same thing happened when I tried it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Are you're S-OFF?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jelive:
Appears we are at point where need to run LazyPanda to get s-off if we want to keep up with firmware updates or can they potentially be done through recovery if-when someone makes available? Assume h-boot update will definitely require s-off.

Updated newest radio through recovery but really hesitant to do LazaPanda...When first came out followed all the instructions to a tee and got stuck with essentially dead phone and had to get another. At least now there is a full unbrick process...have viewed unbrick video, have Ubuntu Live CD, etc.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] diestarbucks:
That is complicated...I ran LazyPanda and everything went flawlessly. Script said I achieved s-off but on phone I showed LazyPanda but still said s-on. I ran LazyPanda again and it stopped after a few lines and said I already have s-off and then it quit. I got in touch with the guys in irc and Hyuh poured through my phone and said he couldn't understand why it said s-on and that I was definitely s-off. Even got the HTC red warning script taken away. So... yeah. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rippley05:
I also flashed the radio, didn't realize I needed s off for the whole deal, sorry guys. I apparently already have the newest prl.. I don't notice any difference with the new radio I like to stay up to date ;-)

I'm hesitant on doing lazy panda right now tho, I eventually will but the thread still has people reporting problem.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
The dev's of the tool stated there are some unknown issues with the tool and our device. Basically there will always be a few bricks but they are now recoverable. The closer you are to stock the better the odds seem to be. Might as well give it a go.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TorxT3D:
flashed the new radio with s-off, unlocked, etc etc..

everything was fine..

but my call conversations sound weird.

dunno if its the radio, other persons cell provider, a signal issue or transmit power saving feature... but..

in a call conversation theres complete silence on the other end like the call has ended until the person speaks.. then i can hear them.

its awkward because i miss alot of words being said

i hear no background noise or anything, only when the person speaks.. once they stop, then its dead silence like the call ended. i dont like it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mcvoss:
I'm S-Off did the upgrade through the bootloader but the PRI for some reason didnt update, it is still at 2.228.003. Any idas, thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lbe:
Sorry if this question is asked b4, just want to confirm if the full firmware zip has hboot and recovery excluded?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jrmatics:
This is the kernel I have after I installed the full firmware zipView attachment 1194508... Is there any zip for the new kernel?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
You only flashed the radio and not the full firmware zip.

Yes, they are excluded.

The boot.img is not included in the zip. I didn't create a zip for the boot.img, but I can do that tomorrow.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vacoray:
No Data

OK so i updated the firmware version of this, Bootloader style and now i have no data, no internet, nothing. I updated profile but could only do it wi-fi and still no go. Any one else have this issue?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jrmatics:
Cool
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Freelancerx:
have you tried making a phone call? if you get an error 16 it will just route your call back to sprint and they have to re-provision your phone. just takes like 5 mins and you should be good as new
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vacoray:
Phone calls i can make, just no data of any kind. GPS works WI-FI works. I am S-Off so i'm tempted to flash back to OE RUU and see if that fixes it. If I do that will i get back to the original Radios?

Edit: I flashed all the older radios but the PRI never changes, so i assume i need an older firmware. Anyone know where i can get that? I don't even know if the PRI is the problem.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] badengrish:
I tried loading through TWRP with both the radio and the HBOOT. I got a failure for both. I am S-OFF and rooted of course. Anyone else having this issue?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
Which file did you download? Are you s-off via lazy panda?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Sounds like you're trying to flash through recovery what should be flashed through the bootloader.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] NaterTots:
Had this happen to me the other day. After trying to update my prl and profile. What I ended up doing was updating prl and profile with wifi connection and that fixed it for me. Sprint was ready to send me a new phone because they thought the phone was malfunctioning.

We tried to manually update it through the dialer but the dialer kept closing out.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] badengrish:
I am S-Off Lazypanda and in HBOOT, which option do you use to flash in HBOOT? I tried the flashing the radio via TWRP 2.1.8 with FAIL. There was no message given.