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[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Android kernel is based on Linux. So this is suggesting the Linux kernel is not built to support multi-core either. Not true. There is a reason the SGS3 gets 5000+ in Quadrant, the the San Diego only gets 3000+. And the San Diego is running 200MHz faster.

Just look at the blue bar here. http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/orange-san-diego-benchmarks/ . My SGS3 got over 2.5K on just CPU alone.
[Galaxy S III General] nativestranger:
What Intel said was true. Android is multicore aware but the os and apps aren't taking advantage of it. When this user disabled 2 cores on the HTC one x it made no difference at all in anything other than benchmarks.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26094852&postcount=3
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Disabling the CPU cores will do nothing to the GPU, hence still getting 60 FPS. And you say that like you expected to see a difference. Those games may not be particularly CPU intensive, thats why they continue to run fine. They will more than likely be GPU limited.

Android is not a difficult OS to run, thats why it can run on the G1, or AOKP can run smooth as silk on my i9000. If it can run smooth as silk on one 2yr old 1GHz chip, how COULD it go faster on a next-gen chip like in the SGS3 or HOX? In terms of just using the phone, ive not experienced any lag at all.

If youre buying a phone with dual/quad CPU cores, and only expecting to use it as a phone (i.e, not play demanding games/benchmark/mod/what ever else), of course you wont see any advantage, and you may feel cheated. And if you disable those extra cores, and still only use it as a phone, of course you wont notice any difference.

If a pocket calculator appears to calculate 1+1 instantly, and a HOX also calculates 1+1 instantly, Is the pocket calculator awesome, is the HOX not using all its cores, or is what it is being asked to do simply not taxing enough to use all the CPU power the HOX has got?
[Galaxy S III General] Gadgetz:
I've been hearing this for some time now and is one of the reasons I didn't care that we weren't getting the quad core version of the GS3
[Galaxy S III General] vertrag:
Okay folks... firstly linux kernel, which android is based on, is aware of multicore (its obvious) but most the applications are not aware, thats true!.. but is not the android which to blame neither the SoC makers. This is like the flame intel made that they wanted to say their single core can do faster to a dual core arm LOL, (maybe intel will make 1 core has 4 threads or 8 threads) <- imposibruuu for now dunno later :P

you will notice the core usage while playing HD video that require cpu to decode (better core decode fastly)... and im not sure single core intel does better to arm dual core.. ~haha~

but for average user the differences are not noticable.. if intel aiming for this market yes that make sense... but android user are above average user.. they will optimize its phone eventually IMO
[Galaxy S III General] Intratech:
What they have failed to disclose is which SoC they did their test on and their methodology. Not much reason to doubt what he's saying but you gotta remember that Intel only have a single core mobile SoC currently and are aiming to get a foothold in the mobile device ecosystem so part of this could be throwing salt on competing products as it's something that should be taken care of by Google optimising the CPU scheduling algorithms of their OS.
[Galaxy S III General] Paris6906:
The problem is in the chip set. I currently attend SUNY Oswego and a professor of mine Doug Lea works on many concurrent structures. He is currently working on the ARM spec sheet that is used to make chips. The bench marks that he has done shows that no matter how lucky or unlucky you get, the time that it takes to do a concurrent process is about the same where on desktop chips there is a huge difference between best case and worse case. The blame falls on the people that make the chips for now. They need to change how it handles concurrent operations and then if android still cant use multi-core processors then it falls on the shoulders of google.

that is my two cents on the whole situation. Just finished concurrency with Doug and after many talks this is my current opinion.
[Galaxy S III General] nativestranger:
That doesn't mean daily task doesn't need the cpu power. When I put my sgs 3 in power save mode which cut back the cpu to 800mHz, I feel the lag instantly when scrolling around and navigating the internet. So I can conclude that performance per core is still much more important than number of cores. There isn't any performance difference either with the dual core sensation xe running beside the single core sensational xl.
[Galaxy S III General] Aridon:
The hardware needs to be out for developers to have incentive to make use of it. It's not like Android was built from the ground up to utilize 4 cores. That said, once it hits enough hand it and software running in it will be made to utilize the new hardware.
[Galaxy S III General] kwyj:
For me, what's important isn't outright performance within any single app, but a responsive phone without the freezes and pauses you see on some handsets.

While the original quote is correct to a certain extent, I don't necessarily want a single badly behaving app being able to consume a high percentage of the resources of every core on the CPU, leaving every other app (including the launcher) struggling to get any CPU time. In know the scheduler minimizes the impact of that, but having apps spin up multiple threads when they don't actually need them is wasteful.

More cores means more opportunity for the kernel to schedule multiple apps. I'm not really too concerned about multithreading *within* the apps. Others might have different requirements but personally I'm not looking to do 3d rendering with Maya on my phone. :)
[Galaxy S III General] knights.JayTana:
the main problem of Android is optimization/fragmentation. OS and most Apps are not well coded to utilize most of hardware's capability. Frankly speaking if S2 does have 720p display, i will not buy S3. Quad-core at this moment is an overkill and just for showing off IMO...
[Galaxy S III General] usb2007:
Lol..guys check your S3 kernel version..it's "SMP PREEMPT" which means it's a linux kernel supporting multicores
[Galaxy S III General] v1rtu4l:
this is very important.

some people might remember how often single core cpu computers froze in a because a program would take all of those resources and bring the whole system to a halt. this dramatically changed by the introduction of multi-core processors because now even when one program is using a whole core to the fullest another core is still available for core system processes (i.e. calling up the task manager and closing that one stuck process that is consuming all the power).

i rather have my android apps not be multi-core aware and use more than one core, because than it would be more probable that a badly coded app would simply eat away your battery by using all the cores and rendering your phone inoperable because there is no cpu time left for core system functionality like registering your input and so on.

i take bell's remark as simply trying to spin things into intels favor. we all know that samsung uses their own (modified?) cpu scheduler/gouvernor which is why the galaxy s3 is so smooth out of the box.

his point is moot, since it probably only applies to the unmodified android sources.

it would be like me saying that linux server is more secure than windows server after examining who secure a linux system is which i installed by a netinstall-cd which only installs the core system that brings you to runlevel 3 maximum without GUI.

while it is true, that the core components of a linux system may be somehow a bit more secure, the core system of a linux server (without installing additional packages that come with each distribution) has far less functionality than a stock windows server 2008 r2 for instance. if you use a linux servers with all additional packages that are needed to fully "emulate" all roles the windows server 2008 r2 is able, you would have a more insecure system with your linux server. you install packages from various sources (like apache as webserver) which force you to update all that crap separetely and check if there is a hotfix for apache this, php that and so on, while on microsoft all those roles get automatically updated.

so yes, intels processor might have an advantage over a dual core arm cpu on AOSP systems, but since no one uses an unmodified stock android sources system it is not relevant
[Galaxy S III General] knights.JayTana:
Yes, we all know that. Android itself will able to see and use multiple cores but not at its best...
[Galaxy S III General] usb2007:
v1rtu4l already pointed about Samsung modified scheduler..so there
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] armandosandoval:
I need help flashing a fascinate from cricket back to verizon. the esn is clean i checked it already. Ive been looking for a tutorial or something with instructions but no luck. Someone please help.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] pzx:
Someone says if you update to ics from 4.0.2.a.058,the battery will sustain a much shorter time than GB.However,updating from 4.0.2.a.062 will make the battery work normally.

Can anyone confirm this issue?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] UchihaDareNial:
Do you mean me? XD well,ICS sucks your juice for automatic bg process,disable some
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] lolhalol:
so far i have not had a problem with battery drain. wifi on all day. and data when there is no wifi. battery lasts about a day, sometimes two if im not on the phone much. average use of instagram and whatsapp mainly. not much gaming. only a little of like bubble blast.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
Then what about installation via Flashtool? :D

No, cannot be. It's how you use the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] syamilrosham:
Hi, I just got my gsm galaxy nexus i9250 today with stock android 4.0.1. I heard that 4.0.4 will cause signal loss bug so I'm hoping that I can update to 4.0.2 OTA or 4.0.3 instead. So where do I download a stock 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 to flash it? There's only 4.0.4 factory image in the google developers site (xda don't allow me to post link because this is my first post).

Can someone help please? Sorry if this question have been asked before. Thank you. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1372376&highlight=stock+4+0+2

you could do this. this stock 4.0.2 rooted that you flash via CWM. it was the quickest thing i could find for your request.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] syamilrosham:
Thanks man I'll probably try it later. So technically this is a custom ROM right? How do I update to an official one if that's possible?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] amonfog:
The problems with the network have been fixed in a small update (i think it was 500 kb or so) from google. You won't experience the issues we had 2 MONTHS AGO when you just flash version 4.0.4 with Build number IMM761. Android 4.0.4 is way better than 4.0.2...

How did you even get 4.0.1? my phone (european samsung version) came with 4.0.2 from the box back in march.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
technically it is a custom rom, but all it is stock rooted with busybox.

as far as an official one. you could flash a say a yakjuux or another variant of yakju that would be official just updated by samsung instead of google.

Edit: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1554256 - this is 4.0.2 yakjuux stock flashed via CWM
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] amonfog:
I wouldn't do that! if I were you

to explain this I have to tell you this:

there are diffrent versions of the ROM available. When your phone comes from the US you have a big chance that you are running Yakuja (the official Google branded ROM). but when you live outside the USA or got your phone from a non-US batch you have diffrent "Samsung branded ROMS". there's not such a big difference other than samsung checks the update and leaves things out that should not be available in your country...

You might brick your phone really nasty when you go update it with the wrong "ROM brand". If you really insist on getting the latest update (4.0.4) and when it doesn't come to you in the normal OTA way. try this thread bellow:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1626895

In the process you will get the latest version of Android without the need for modified recoveries. This is "the legit Google way".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
im sorry but no.

it doesnt matter what yakju version you go with. the GSM phone is the same across all versions, just a matter of where the software comes from.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] syamilrosham:
Oh if the problem is gone then I would just update it to the latest 4.0.4 then :) I'm just worried because I read a lot of article saying that 4.0.4 causing signal loss when phone is in sleep mode. I got a used one (like new) from Amazon maybe thats why it's still 4.0.1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] amonfog:
Nope, my European stock rom came without Google books (comes standard with android). and did not get full functionality on the NFC (since our public transportation cards can be hacked using NFC). There is a difference between brands.

above that, the method posted in the link is how it should be done. If you check the official Android documentation you'll see the same description (but with some expensiver words). It's a proven way that is and has been reliable and save for a long time. of course I know what CWM is and does. But these ways are just ok.

I don't think the OP needs Root on his phone when he doesn't even know how to update a phone.

And in the technique described on the xda page I revered to (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1626895) you can actually relock the OEM after the switch, which means you have a very high chance of keeping the factory warranty (they will only notice it when they dig in to the phone really really really deep, but even then you would be considered to be a "stock" user in most of the cases).

When you have CWM sitting in your phones memory they will notice that. If you had it in your phones memory they will notice to (since the phone keeps past-version records on a save place).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] syamilrosham:
The seller that I bought from said he bought the phone from google play store, so it has to be yakju/takju right? which means i don't have to convert it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] amonfog:
Nope ;) just update it.

if your updater doesn't work for some reason try this:

go to settings > hit apps > go to the tab "all" > open the settings for the app "google services framework" > hit "clear data" > hit "force stop" > go back to the main list in the settings app > hit "about phone" > check for updates (it should give you "last checked 1977 or so")

If you got this phone second hand and haven't factory resetted it yet. you should, the previous owner might have left traces from his usage or things that can compromise your privacy behind. this can be done from settings > storrage > factory reset

Good luck with android 4.0.4. You'll love it!

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If you are realy curious about what version you have you can check this app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.cbruegg.officialupdate

It's completely harmless! It will check the brand on the phone and provide you with details.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] syamilrosham:
Thanks a lot man. I really appreciate your and Zepius' help. Definitely gonna go with 4.0.4 now. I see you're from Netherlands, definitely gonna root for them this Euro 12! :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
There is no 4.0.3 stock ROM. If you want 4.0.2, you can find it here:

http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/galaxy-nexus/i9250/

No, that is not a stock ROM, and no it is NOT just a stock ROM that is rooted with busybox. It is a deodexed, zipaligned ROM, with a non-stock kernel.

If you use that, you will no longer be able to use OTA updates to update to a new version -- you will have to re-install a full ROM.

As for flashing a yakjuux build, why??? :confused: It makes no sense. Why would he flash a build which would get updates later than a yakju build?

It DOES matter what version of yakju you go with. If you do not go with yakju or takju, you will get OTA updates MUCH LATER than yakju or takju.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
he mentioned he did not want 4.0.4, hence why i mentioned yakjuux.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Yeah, he mentioned he didn't want 4.0.4, so you should recommend yakju 4.0.2, not a non-yakju build, as a non-yakju build will screw him if he wants any updates beyond 4.0.4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] syamilrosham:
Alright thanks for the info, learnt a lot about yakju takju stuffs now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] syamilrosham:
By the way, the link you sent me is dead. Do you mind sending a working one? thanks.

Loving my Gnex, it's like my 2nd girlfriend now LOL
[Member-Found Deals] Totòòò:
$649 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...0805486015?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35bd1439bf
[Member-Found Deals] AnyMal:
So it begins, lol :D
[Member-Found Deals] Envy Diz:
Not bad considering AT&T version retail is $619.99.

LG Nitro HD 4G
[Member-Found Deals] leezrd:
Nice but white on a phone is so ugly. Not to mention makes it look like iphone
[Member-Found Deals] RMXO:
I got my order when 25 were sold.
[Member-Found Deals] edgex:
Tempting as I don't get lte where I live.

Sent from my GSII Skyrocket
[Member-Found Deals] zakdoc89:
I read that as I got 25.... !!!!!

Enjoy....

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Member-Found Deals] CB620:
Haha the price drops begin.
[Member-Found Deals] Totòòò:
Not really. It will take 1 more month for the price to get to $649.
[Member-Found Deals] CB620:
Tell that to the MP they will use this thread to offer people $649 or lower.
[Member-Found Deals] avataranjie:
So tempting
[Member-Found Deals] topsales:
Yes, it is. MUST RESIST!:eek:
[Member-Found Deals] defnow:
thought it was 549.99? :confused:
[Member-Found Deals] Totòòò:
you gotta pay taxes on top of that lol
[Member-Found Deals] RMXO:
anyone order this & get a shipping info? They sold 190 devices, I wonder if they over sold or not. I emailed them asking if they would be able to honor my purchase & ship immediately since they sold so much. hopefully they didn't over sale on purpose & make you wait until their next shipment.
[Member-Found Deals] daveop:
It's 549.99 off contact from corporate stores in Chicagoland.
[Member-Found Deals] orangekid:
For the international version?
[Member-Found Deals] sk337sk337:
for the US versions
[Member-Found Deals] daveop:
Did you read my post? I quoted someone saying the AT&T version was more. :confused:
[Member-Found Deals] Totòòò:
What makes u think they oversold? They had 190 and they sold 190 thats why they ended it. And no shipping info yet. Read the description, says 24-48hrs
[Member-Found Deals] RMXO:
just being impatient. I'm ok with being over sold so I can get my $ back & go a different but faster route.
[Member-Found Deals] Totòòò:
then just email them ask to cancel the order. the item description was very clear. im sure they are not big fans of buyers that dont read the description so you wont have problems having your order cancelled.
[Member-Found Deals] sabwafare2001:
I received my UPS tracking number this morning. It says the phone should arrive on Friday. I bought one at the 70ish sold point.
[Member-Found Deals] Totòòò:
Yah me too. Mine arriving tomorrow.
[Member-Found Deals] RMXO:
I paid for next day delivery & I'm not receiving it until Jun 15. :rolleyes:
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klinkdawg:
Just wondering, is there any way to access the internal sd card on your computer when in recovery mode? i know in older cwm recoveries this was possible by just mounting usb storage... why has this feature been removed?

I downloaded experimental build #4 of cm9 in the short while that it was released for and ended up being stuck on the boot animation forever so i cannot access usb by booting up the system. also, i deleted the old experimental build #3 off of my sd card before flashing so i can't flash back to that unless its on the card! Being stupid and too trustworthy of the build that it would work, i made no backup and that has left me in my current predicament.

Any help is appreciated and all ideas are welcome! i can still boot into fastboot mode and i have an old nandroid system backup on my computer and i can boot into recovery (either cwm or twrp, i have been able to install both at separate times so am willing to use either to fix the problem).

Thanks!
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prototype7:
Use adb to push it.

adb push rom.zip /sdcard/rom.zip
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klinkdawg:
i am in cwm recovery, but when i try this, it just says device not found. any specific way to start adb once in recovery?

EDIT: i can access adb from the boot screen, but when i try and push, it says error: read-only file system
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prototype7:
Try going into fastboot and use "fastboot flash zip rom.zip"
[Desire HD Android Development] krisjanne:
close this mod thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] GraveDigger176:
downloading now and install after my work then i give you feedback :D

the 4 shared link does not work
[Desire HD Android Development] nikola92:
I am downloading ATM will will give feedback after I flash the ROM
[Desire HD Android Development] krisjanne:
4Shared FIXED...
[Desire HD Android Development] Rushness:
Please post some screenshots of the launchers and stuff you put in, then it's WAY easier to see how good it really is :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Teichopsia:
No need, krisjanne's roms are fantastic.

I was wondering where you were kriss, now I see that you've been busy. Hope all is well buddy.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD Android Development] krisjanne:
ScreenShot come after that not my priority now.. sorry

Very big thanks for your support... i'm good... have a good night with that... :D
[Desire HD Android Development] nikola92:
It is fastest ICS rom I tried, but I didn't had any theme choser option when I installed rom, or maybe I have to chose theme when I install rom
[Desire HD Android Development] krisjanne:
Make this choice during installation

if you have any réponder not you have a basic ics otherwise

the first choice

if you réponder yes you will have a rom xperiaS and yes

if you réponder the second choice you will have a rom SGS3

CAUTION NEVER CHOOSE 2 THEME PACK during the same install ...
[Desire HD Android Development] fyndyk:
Anyone care to share some SGS3 theme screenshots? I'm curious.
[Desire HD Android Development] krisjanne:
Take 15min to down and install it to view and share what do you thinks that more faster and i can't post screenshot now i need to réinstall My pc before... sorry for that... but i'm on this ****in win8 and nothing work correct in this i can't adb correct i don't want take screen shot with 3rd app in my phone.. but test it and comment thanks you...
[Desire HD Android Development] roelblink:
Downloading at 98kb/s on the mirror.. i'm having patience.. ;-)

Edit: 4shared works fine now..
[Desire HD Android Development] Aaron78:
Screenshots??
[Desire HD Android Development] grzesiek1945:
Its like stock ICS?

Wysyłane z mojego Desire HD za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD Android Development] krisjanne:
READ
[Desire HD Android Development] roelblink:
Can't choose any theme during install...? How to choose?

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During install i see: theme install aborted in 4ext...

So no posibility to change theme..
[Desire HD Android Development] krisjanne:
if you see aborded you have choose no ... there is two question you need to say yes just one choose and you have your..."theme"
[Desire HD Android Development] roelblink:
the install is constant, no time to choose anything.. it goed straight to the end..