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[Galaxy S III General] TheWarKeeper:
Are you running with the mali gpu or nvidia tegra? i doubt mine is faulty i have swapped 3 presenting the same problems.

Riptide GT gets hot very slowly though, alot slower than recording with the camera at 1080p 30fps with max video quality, yes it is true that every highest end system will eventually require more power and more heat untill they are able to scale it down a bit in size and improve certain areas in electronics which frankly im no expert or amateur at, however theres hot and then theres too hot, this gpu is not hot just because its new and powerfull, its also hot because its poorly designed, frankly im not going to try to see how much heat does mine take, i do not want to end up without a phone, when its almost burning hot to my fingers i stop to use it so it will cool down, one day i didnt because i had to record something, the whole screen and camera got incredibly hot to the point it was very unconfortable to lay your finger on it for more than 1 second. This is samsung quality what can i say.

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@Funkym0nkey

Im almost certain they do, mine doesnt start without the cpu beying properly pressurized, i remember this "issue" was also there with my prescot 660 when the fan was not properly pressurized against the cpu (so the cpu wouldnt actually get in contact with the motherboard, making you unable to start the pc unless the cooler was properly tightened.) yes im aware of fan speed control too but that only warned you with an error in bios that didnt actually prevent you from starting your pc up.
[Galaxy S III General] Tachikoma_kun:
Mine's a normal international version, so Mali
[Galaxy S III General] TheWarKeeper:
Well this is not common then, did you buy when it came out or did you wait few months? also when recording at 1080p did you select superfine quality? because if it doesnt get hot it probably means they have fixed that in later batches.
[Galaxy S III General] Tachikoma_kun:
I think we are talking about different devices here, the SGS3 (which I am talking about) has only been out a few weeks.
[Galaxy S III General] jermitano:
probably you should...we'll gain even more :rolleyes:

ps you remind us of another screen "expert" here who likes to post stuff but cant prove issues or lack of it...

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understand that the point of this thread is to see if the screen issue sweeps across the galaxy devices...obviously there are some posters who like to say stuff and provide no concrete or evidencial way of proving or disproving claims...

please guys refrain from flaming or trolling...lets keep the posts objective...we are looking for possible ways of solving the problem and not crying about it...

if you have problems with your phone, no one is stopping you from getting an exchange or replacement...do it...if you think it can be solved with updates and can live with blotches that you wouldnt notice normally then do...its irritating when some people say that this is normal or that is what should be done or this or that but when you ask what do you think could be done they go back to their little trolling nest...
[Galaxy S III General] TheWarKeeper:
Are you saying you were talking about sgs3? i was talking about my sgs2 and assumed you were too.

My bad then, but since you have said that it doesnt overheat by recording videos, i found that very strange and did the test again (this time with android ics) and apparently this version works alot better in that departament, did 25mins recording non stop and the phone got between warm/hot but nowhere near the temperature levels it did before, thats great news for me, maybe that indicates sgs3 will not have the massive temperature issues sgs2 had.
[Galaxy S III General] jermitano:
dude time to add your screen test for the s3...i know you have one now :p
[Galaxy S III General] nativestranger:
OK I finally got to test mine. Mine has two dark spots near the centre. Used this web page zoomed to the black parts: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/conclusion.php

Even with the uniform black image and room lights off I can't see it at first. Then I shut off my PC and closed the windows and doors to ensure pitch black darkness then stared at the black image. After 15 seconds my eyes adjusted and finally able to differentiate 2 black spots.

Then I tested youtube. Am I able to notice it in dark videos? No even in pitch darkness theres just not enough time after bright scenes for my eyes to adjust and start noticing the spots. If theres any brighter details in the scene there is no way that I can notice the spots. I would say this is a non issue unless you use the device in pitch darkness and watching videos with prolonged scenes of uniform and complete darkness.

I hope Samsung would fix the pink tint, black crush and sharpening artifacts though. Those are very obvious in a wide range of lighting conditions and usage scenarios.
[Galaxy S III General] cba1986:
That is way i am thinking to exchange mine. The line that my devices has is very difficult to see in normal scenerios. You can see it if look for it. I talked with supercurio about this and he said to me that PentileHD has more leakage than average pentile, making ink spots easier to spot than normal pentile as the SGS1 and SGS2. Sadly this is a hardware behaviour and cannot be fixed.

The colder gray from the lower quarter of my screen seems to dissapear if take the phone away from about 10 or 15 cm. I don't know if this is a normal behaviour of pentile or the display as some defect. Can anybody confirm this?

About the black crush and sharpening artifacts supercurio claimed that he fixed that. But maybe we will have to wait to him to return from the Wolfsom HQ.

Bottomline here is, if you display has obvious spots, you can see at any time and you are in the immediate exchange period, change it. But if you see one of two dots in very particular situations but you exchange period is over and you only chance is Samsung's warranty. Well i will think about it.

I'm in the immediate exchange period for about 8 more days. My fear is that the next devices probably will have more spots that mine. I will have to think about it.
[Galaxy S III General] barne19801:
I'm no expert but as I understand it the taskbar issue is not burn in but the fact that those pixels rarely get used so they don't degrade the same as the rest of the screen. Though I have noticed the HTC one s hides this bar at times, it would be nice if Samsung could do something similar.
[Galaxy S III General] hefonthefjords:
Those of you out there who are stating that this phenomenon is part of the nature of amoled displays, can you show us any technical explainations or documentation sources that state as much or explain why such a flaw occurs? Im interested as to why such a thing is a known issue which clearly hasnt been addressed through three whole generations of samsung phone. Given that samsung manufacture these panels themselves i would have expected them to correct such a manufacturing flaw after or during the first generation.
[Galaxy S III General] streety12:
So what, I should not watch Videos in a dark area? Its so ridiculous that this Screen Problem was already present with galaxy s 2.

Now I need to give back my s3 because of this , nice job samsung -.-
[Galaxy S III General] TheWarKeeper:
I guess that may be the reason why Sony and other brands still use crappy lcd technology... oh well what can i say? lcd still is viable as its pretty much permanent in the long run, if u can take the worse contrast, worse response time and worse viewing experience from different angles then you should ge one with lcd, honestly i cant stand lcd ever since i bought a proper crt monitor, let alone an oled phone.

Its true oled from samsung is really really crappy, but i dont see what else you can get besides that really.
[Galaxy S III General] xath23:
Sorry OP but you should really wait until you get the phone. I've had both S and the SII and now the SIII. The blotches on the SIII are ALOT more visible than on the previous phones. The blacks are just nowhere near as dark as they were on the S and the SII for some reason.

Don't get me wrong, the blacks are still far better than what you'd get on an LCD but they are not as good as on it's predecessors... This makes the blotches way easier to spot (because they are pure black). I had to use my DSLR to make the ones on my SII visible even in complete darkness I couldn't see them with the naked eye, whereas on the SIII I can easily spot them.

They don't bother me really but I'm lucky and have just a few small dots. I had several PSVita and all of them had the problem, some really bad, some barely noticable. It's always a gamble with AMOLED, I still say it's the best screen technology though and I just love the colours and contrast.

Anyway, point of my post is: You shouldn't tell people not to make a big deal out of things, if you don't know how bad it is on their unit. It's mostly people that have problems that go to xda and ask or complain about it, people with good units have no reason to complain after all... So this thread is just as useless and annoying as the ones made by the people who might actually HAVE problems.

PS: I was able to see blotches on several PSVitas (also Notes) during normal use in daylight, so just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And yes, the screens for the Vita are also made by Samsung, though I'm sure they are alot cheaper in production and lower quality..
[Galaxy S III General] 1234568:
"We are looking for possible ways of solving the problem." What part of the OP said that? The OP actually said "Stop complaining about it, you wont see it in normal useage. thats all."

What I know is that I can see marks on my screen. End of. Now I admit that some people may see these black marks as more of an issue than others. Those people that do should just chat in a thread like this and work out what to do. Those people that aren't bothered should just scroll on down the forum and read another thread. I don't see the point in starting a thread that just says it's a non-issue. If it doesn't bother you then just move on down the forum and discuss something else.
[Galaxy S III General] cba1986:
Supercurio said to me that Pentile HD has more leakage than normal pentile as the SGS1. I compared it with my SGS1 and i noticed that in the SGS3 the black are more "brown" when in the SGS1 is near "blue" perhaps that is the reason that we notice more ink mark on the SGS3.

I'm not seeing the point to bash Samsung just because of some defective units. Rev2 (my device) has a lot less ink marks (only in a matter of fact) than Rev1 from what i saw from screenshots.

I think that the point in the OP is: If you have a defective unit, change it for another and stop whinning insde a forum.
[Galaxy S III General] Totòòò:
I think that the point both u and the op are missing is: the unit has no hardware defects, changing it wont help, samsung needs to come with a software fix since the issue is cuz of software bugs
[Galaxy S III General] ronj1986:
How do I know if I have rev 1 or rev 2?

If I have assisted you, please press Thanks button.
[Galaxy S III General] cba1986:
I have a sticker on the front of the box that said which revision you have.
[Galaxy S III General] jermitano:
first...i am not the original poster...and reread my posts before you compose statements which are completely out of contexts...

second...if you do have an issue then have your unit replaced or fixed...done...

is it really that hard to comprehend:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] musashiro:
regarding the black spots, yes, its present to all OLED technologies, SAMOLED or amoled...

i have a PS Vita and it shows lots of spots when loading the game or any moment wherein the screen is totally black..
[Galaxy S III General] Gadhou:
what the . . .

and being in a place other than philippines you will find it an issue? A completely absurd reason if i may say so. Being born on whatever race or religion or place doesn't mean you'll have the same preference. Please avoid making such unhelpful and stupid remark.
[Galaxy S III General] xath23:
I'm not bashing Samsung in anyway, I'm usually defending them and like I said even with the dots I still think it's the best screen tech. I take the ink marks over edgebleeding or washed out blacks any day. I agree with exchanging however if the blotches bother you or you are unlucky with big ones - exchange! But you will most likely never get a blotch free device as it's impossible to manufacture, at least at the moment. One big problem I guess is that many people are either afraid of exchanging it, or they simply can't because it's very hard to show the defect (which isn't even a real defect). I can only talk about germany, so it might be different in other countries but exchanging a device for screen defects like this or even dead pixels is nearly impossible, except if you bought it online, which I usually do. I dunno what Rev my unit is, but this is how it looks:

Which I think is perfectly fine. I raised the contrast quite a bit, exposure is only 3-4 seconds in complete darkness though.

To the people searching for a software solution: It's NOT going to happen EVER! It's definatly a hardware issue and it won't ever be fixable by software.
[Galaxy S III General] thelonite:
i compared screens

a nokia n8

and a samsung galaxy note

using the same movie

watching a movie with the n8 no blocks

watching the same movie with the samsung galaxy note blocks appear, specially when on really dark scenes

but then the colors are more vibrant on the note, scenes are a lot livelier, on the n8 its just bland and flat though you can discern the colors...

further more the note seems to show more detail than that on the n8 specially in dark scenes. on the n8 its all dark and shadowy but on the note you can still depict the backdraft of the scene.

blocks probably happen due to the contrast and sharpness of the video when being watched on the note or probably because of the file type and video output size.

maybe samsung must release their own video converter specially made for the samsung galaxy series?

then i compared the same video played on a n5230...

well the n8 is video was a whole lot better than the n5230

as if i didnt do this when i first got the n8 ^^

preference and comparison depends on what we have on hand

so its prolly

even if your TV is HD

and the note is HD

it doesnt mean they work the same
[Galaxy S III General] cba1986:
The thing is that the N8 has a normal pentile array. The HD pentile array, like the Note and the SGS3, has more leakage than normal pentile. Which is more prone to ink marks.

The SGS1 also has ink marks but the blacks in a pitch black room are more blueish making ink marks more difficult to detect.
[Galaxy S III General] thelonite:
but then ignoring them inks

the Note or SGS3 produces much more vibrant color array than that of the SGS1,

and much more detail

only tried this one once

connected the note via cable to a HD TV

watched a great movie
[Galaxy S III General] nativestranger:
Yes if you can see in normal conditions, definitely exchange it.
[Galaxy S III General] Yusei:
I've search for ink blotches in normal use and in dark environments and I can see sh!t...

Perfect screen.
[Galaxy S III General] cba1986:
I only notice a tiny line seeing a dark image in a pitch black room after two minutes.

It's not what i call normal conditions.

However i went to the "store" and tried to show him my problem. I couldn't and in the process i made a fool of myself.

Not that really matters, i am amazed of the quality of this thing. I mean, it quick at everything, GPS(amazingly fast), 3G, the compass is incredibly accurate. The browser is well.... I can keep al night. My point is that this phone is more that a tiny line which you probaly will look a two minutes for day(In my case)
[Galaxy S III General] Alex---1:
Well, just tested my S3 and yep, I've got it too.

Can't see it at all during daylight and average use but none the less it's still pretty sh*t that this happens to SAMOLEDS.

Makes me feel mugged even though it happens to everyone lol. Just because it happens to every one of them though doesn't mean it's not defective, it just means they're all defective. If everyone got a certain type of car and the same part fell off all of them would that then be considered 'normal' ?

I just hope it doesn't get worse over time and become obvious in daylight :)

Pics of mine taken on Canon EOS 400D with Canon 70-200mm USM lens, LCD test on black colour, 30 second exposure.

Equipment

^^ Last one taken with my S3 :)
[Galaxy S III General] benefit14snake:
Lol that camera looks amazing!

Sent from my Axiom MAXX!!
[Galaxy S III General] nativestranger:
Which is why I said it's a non issue for me. Mine has 2 dark spots but I need total darkness, a uniform black background and about 20 seconds for my eyes to adjust before I can see it. A prolonged and uniform black back image is hard to come by even in a dark movie.
[Galaxy S III General] Alex---1:
Thanks :)

It's like a weapon with macro mounts on lol
[Galaxy S III General] GalaxyFan88:
I also made a thread about this "issue" in the GSII forums, just for the curious guys who can't get enough of pictures:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1703479
[Galaxy S III General] demonwind:
Lol SAMOLED. That is all.
[Galaxy S III General] shevo:
although the blotches never bother me since I found it on my S2 but the fact that I have that little b1tches on my beloved S3 is kinda tickling my disappointment :cyclops:

off topic: smexy cam alex! :good:
[Galaxy S III General] norpan111:
If i was a camera, I'd tap that
[Galaxy S III General] Alex---1:
Well it seems my spots have got darker and a few new ones have popped up. Although one of them has faded a bit which is a bit strange. You can also make out the accuweather widget and a few of the icons burning in a bit already :(

Shot of my previous ones - taken a few posts back

This is how it is now

Not really sure what to do now. Do you think I should send it back in case it keeps getting worse or just make do with it? I've heard a few reports of people getting exhanges now and their new ones are much better. Maybe Samsung have improved their displays?

Thanks :)
[Galaxy S III General] darass:
i also discovered today that i got 2 more bigger spots and later one of them disappear wtf? and i got now 1 big darker line in half of screen and one bigger dot... I was in shop when i bought my sgs3 but its almost impossible to show that marks in normal light and they send my phone do Smasung service center and it come back with only "software update" which didnt solve problem what is obvious... i dont knot should i go and try again to change for new one (first time fail)... Or just to it and live with it...?
[Galaxy S III General] owl74:
for an expensive phone, this really sux...
[Windows 8 General] sushilange:
Hi,

does anyone know how to run a metro app from command line, espacially when explorer.exe is not running?

I know there is a process called "wwahost.exe" and I know Windows is running it with the command line parameter "/ServerName:APPID", but if you run it manually it is not working, because there is no "AppContainer" - whatever that means...

I hope we all could work together to be able to run Metro Apps from command line! :-)

Also if you kill explorer.exe (e.g. if you use a Shell Replacement) you are unable to open images, videos and music, because all those files are linked with their metro apps and those can't be run without explorer.exe :-/

Regards,

Sascha
[Windows 8 General] lseidman:
Microsoft keeps locking down the OS and they will continue to and getting rid of legacy coding. Their is actually a process to starting the Metro Apps. Also have to remember, the Apps aren't executables, they're XAP files.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Someguyfromhell:
Currently owner of Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman, however I feel the phone is too small for me with its 3.2 inch screen.

I went to look for a phone with bigger screen, not in a way-too-high price class. Xperia Arc S got my attention there. It's performance is a bit better with the processor, firmware is the same(4.0.4) as my LWW etc.

Xperia S was also an idea, but the price is also a lot higher. Xperia U has really limited storage. And I really would prefer Android.

How is the screen in sunlight? Quality of the screen and sound(headphones and loudspeaker)? The actual performance? Camera quality(dark, light)? Battery life on stock firmware? Are there any known bugs/problems with the phone/firmware?

My question is - Would you recommend Arc S or are there any other phones in this price class, that are better?

If Arc S, then which color suits the best for it?

EDIT: Also, forgot to mention, that the shop where I am going to buy a new phone from, has quite limited selection, so post more ideas for other phones, incase it is needed. :)
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maliceomalice:
First...what is the price of the arc s at ur country? At my country it cost about ~RM1100, which is around ~USD320

If its kinda this price, i recomend looking for a phone with 1gb of ram with the almost near price...
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Someguyfromhell:
329 euros, Estonia.

I didn't notice any phones with 1GB RAM in that price class.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arpith.fbi:
screen under sunlight is good..if u have some screen guard on then only u might face lil problem..but for me its good visibility under the Mighty Sun :)

Screen is sharp and with lil sound enhancement pack, audio quality will be damn good on earphones.

Camera quality of our arc s is just awesome :)..i have SGS2 and i can say it is better than that :)

Arc s price has dropped alot and at this price i think it is a very good deal..only problem is the RAM :(
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Someguyfromhell:
My LWW has currently also 512MB of RAM, multitasking was not very good, however with the newest 4.0.4 update, that I recently got, it is not that bad and feels fine for my regular usage.

I have rooted my phone's stock firmware and threw out some unneeded stuff, so that firmware would be running clean. I do not think, that the difference between these 2 phones' firmware would be too high.

How is the audio quality via loudspeaker? My LWW has 2 loudspeakers, quality is great and volume is just loud, phone and it's screen is a bit too small, probably gonna miss these speakers :D
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arpith.fbi:
audio output is good...well not as good as walkman..but it is very good..it doesnt shout with high volume which results in high pitch sound..all i can say is it is good :)..

u need to hear it out urself only..we cant describe it :)
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Someguyfromhell:
I will go to a nearby shop when I have time, just to try out the Arc S, how big it really feels etc.

I also saw quite a nice selection of custom stuff for it :)

Oh, and battery life, how long can you make with regular usage? Any of you using extended batteries?
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thuanngotau:
It's difficult to answer your question about battery life. It depends on ROM/Kernel/Baseband...

As for me, battery life of Arc S is awesome!:)
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Someguyfromhell:
Which ROM/kernel/BB are you using and how long you get?
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arpith.fbi:
i get 3 days easily with normal usage with Arconium ICS.. normal usage means texting,few calls and lil 3G data thats all..i am sure with lil more usage you may get atleast 40 hrs
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Someguyfromhell:
That's a lot better than my Live with Walkman, it has 1200 mAh, but with my usage I can barely get 1,5 days from it. Maximum with no usage was for me 2 days.

Seems like Arc S is a great choice so far, neither could I find any other phones from the shop website, either less phones on the website than in shop or really not so much to choose from. Need to sell my Live with Walkman now first.