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[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
If you're into big butt phones, Note 2's for you, my friend.

Just try not to drop the bastard. It's kinda slippery, due to Samsung's glossy finish on the back (which I personally hate, by the way). Also, you might want to be careful about the screen. I'm not 100% sure about this, but I don't think it's got Gorilla Glass. And yes, Gorilla Glass is not impact resistant, but it is scratch resistant. So, I'm just saying, if you're thinking of keeping your phone along with your keys in your pocket, think again. And then once more. :)

Other than that, battery life should be better. And performance, at least in theory, should be pretty much the same in day to day tasks.

They both got the update to 4.4.2, in case you wanna stick to Samsung's stock Android for a while (which I personally would not recommend).

What I would recommend though, is to check out the N7100 section on this forum. See how's the development going over there.

Other than that, I told you, if you love big butts, the Note 2 is probably the right choice for you.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
I am actually into big butt phones but more to the battery side of things. I hate the fact that i had to charge my phone every hour at home (Yea my dying GW tht is). Screen-wise, is actually difficult to say "idc" cos well, i usually use my iPad (im sorry guys) to watch YT videos and i only use my phone for videos if im not lazy enuff to hold my iPad (yea start cheering).

Tho, the Note 2 and S4 Mini are pretty similar to each other in terms of hardware, i think both the secondary and primary cameras on both devices are different since they're born in different years and might make Samsung ditch old camera optics for newer ones. (Just saying).

Rite, reading arsradu's post, i think im going for S4 Mini. i saw Lollipop there :o

EDIT: Idk which S4 Mini to get LOLs, i saw LTE/3G/DUOS S4 Minis

Sent from my S800 China Phone
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
About the battery on your Wonder, sounds like you need to replace it. Cause, at some point, even with your future Note 2 or S4 Mini you're gonna have the exact same problem. So, after a while, it's not gonna be any difference. The difference comes when your battery is new or at its peak performance.

If you're into big butt phones, why the hell would you buy the Mini? :)) I mean, don't get me wrong, I love my Serrano. But...it just confuses me. Cause you said you like big phones, and the display on the Mini is smaller than the one on the Note 2. Which is perfectly fine with me, cause I love big butts too, just not when it comes the phones. :)) And the display size on the Mini is actually perfect for me. And even though I've got big hands, I still like to be able to comfortably reach the left corner of my screen without having to race my thumb 100 miles for that.

About Lollipop, yeah, I already got it. And it's not bad. Not perfect. But not bad either. And I'm still waiting for arco's version on it.

In terms of which one to choose, it's pretty easy: if you don't use two SIM cards at the same time, go for the LTE variant. For as far as I could see, just as for the Ancora, the development for Serrano is also focused more towards the two main versions: I9190 (3G) and I9195 (LTE). And since with the LTE variant, you also have 3G (duuh :)) ), why the hell would you consider buying the 3G version? Go for the LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Im pretty aware that i have to replace the battery but the main reason why im changing phone is simply cos my Wonder's MicroUSB jacked got oxidation so yea, charging sometimes work and sometimes not.

Well, i find the S4 Mini to be better suited for me since i got small hands (asian problems). I tried holding a friend's Note 2 and i had to stretch my hand to hold it comfortably. Moreover, im used to Wonder's small shape since i can operate with one hand.

I went to check out the forums and most of the active devs are working on ROMs for the 3G & LTE variant of the S4 Mini, rarely do i see people on the duos variant. Also, from what I heard, the LTE variant saps abit more juice from the battery compared to the 3G variant. Even when LTE is not used, its still sapped or at least thats what i heard from the people of the N7105 forum. Im not using a 4G sim card so i dont think LTE is necessary for me.

Sent from my S800 China Phone
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
Hmm..I don't know about that. I've never heard of the LTE variant using more power in 3G... And I don't have 4G SIM card either, just because the carrier I'm using right now doesn't offer LTE service yet. But when it does, I wouldn't want to upgrade to an LTE compatible device to be able to take advantage of the service. I prefer to already have an LTE compatible device. So I would choose the LTE variant anyway. I mean, that's why I chose the i9195 for myself. But of course, if you're 100% sure you will never want to use the 4G services, sure, you can go for the 3G variant then. Though, personally, I think those stories about the LTE variant consuming more in 3G compared to the 3G variant, are just plain bull****. I mean, it would be pretty hard to prove this. You would need two brand new Serranos, a 3G model and a 4G model, and two people using them exactly the same way, exactly with the same settings and apps, and exactly for the same amount of time to be able to determine that it's indeed the LTE phone the one with problem in 3G. I personally think this is bull****. People just can't compare battery lives accurately. I mean, look at Ancora forum. So many people complaining about battery life. And the battery capacity on this device is indeed small, but it's not as bad as some people describe. But, as I said so many times before, the battery life depends on so many factors that would be pretty hard to determine why some people get better battery lives compared to others.

So, the only thing you can be certain of is the raw numbers on the back of the battery. If it says 2000mAh, that's a good battery. If it's says 3000mAh, that's even better. BUT it will ALWAYS come down to your usage, your network coverage, the settings (such as screen brightness), the apps running in the background and so on so forth. Too many things to put in here.

So, again, if I were you, I would go for the LTE variant anyway. But it's your choice. Both are good phones. And if you don't necessarily need a bigger screen, you will probably be ok with the one on the S4 Mini as well. Pixel density is not much higher on the Note as opposed to the one on the Mini, so I don't think you will be able to tell the difference in terms of image sharpness between the two. I personally prefer higher resolution on a smaller screen, cause it gives me a higher pixel density, and so..sharper images. But...the Mini comes with a 540p resolution (540x960px) which is fine for me, but I would have loved to have 720p on the same screen size. It would have been absolutely perfect. Anyway, you will always need to make some compromises in order to get what's more suitable for yourself.

So, if I was of any help to you, I'm glad. And I hope I helped you make an informed decision towards whichever model you want.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Wowzers :eek: if you weren't any of my help id be cursed like crazy :p but yea, actually thanks to you, im still having my head high up on the S4 Mini, 3G or LTE, whichevers cheaper since im not gonna get 4G anytime. Will hope to join with the S4 Mini club ;)

Sent from my S800 China Phone
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
If it's an S4 Mini LTE, I'd go with that, I'm not into Phablets or Exynos myself. :p

The Note 2 might perform better but no idea on that, I personally recall it (from a friend) to be an annoying device.

If it counts for anything, Arco has an S4 Mini LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
Oh, it counts for everything! :D

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Glad I could help then.

Usually, the 3G is somewhat cheaper than the 4G. But not by much. Or at least that's the case here. Might be different over there. Either way, you might be able to get it cheaper than the 3G variant on some sales or promos or stuff like that. So I would focus on both. But as I said, usually the 3G is cheaper. Also, there is the new Black Edition around here. Check it out. I would have loved to get that when I got my Serrano. Unfortunately this serie was not on the market at the time, so I got the regular version, and then switched to the S4 Mini Black Edition back cover (you can buy those separately, if you want). And now it's a lot better! I didn't like the default slippery back cover. At all. It feels weird, especially after some time.

So, the thing is, if you have the Black Edition over there, and you also don't like the glossy feeling of the default version, definitely go for the Black Edition. It's just another thing to pay attention to, in case you're interested in that aspect, as well. :)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] SGWUser:
I just powered on my Galaxy W for the first time in weeks, and I looked at System/About/Contributors and I saw Arne's name big next to Steve Kondik's name!
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
Yep, he's the device coolguy for the serrano(ltexx).

Speaking of which, if he's working on CM12, I might as well wait out that instead of trying that myself with not loading kernels.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] huongthanh8690:
good information from Christopher83 : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57359015&postcount=346
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] LeroViten:
Wtf? Does anybody know what is THAT? ?
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
Dunno, fake site?
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] LeroViten:
Indeed. I remember not so long ago Samsung released update to Galaxy Win and it was named "for Galaxy W" or smth like that. ? Maybe this one is meant for Win then... Meh...
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Oh damn. S4 Mini got sold out in my country bloody annoyingly :(

I might have to search for other options like the Nexus 4 or Note 2 maybe
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] iwjosi:
vote for nexus 4 :good:
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Id gladly vote for N4 also but it has like 12GB usable memory. :(
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] saintsoh:
buy from qoo10, no credit card, use axs machine. :good:

ship fedex from korea to sg...... ;)

http://list.qoo10.sg/item/SAMSUNG-E...GITAL-SHOW-SAMSUNG/419791073?selectedOptions=
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
No Nexus 4. Trust me on that.

If Serrano is sold out, better try external sources, or get the Note 2 instead. Though you could just as well wait a little bit and get the SGS4 Mini when it becomes available.

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It's a scam... People trying to make a living by publishing/advertising things that don't exist. Have you seen any Gapps with that ROM? :) Me neither. And....he had to split it in 3 parts cause 128MB was too much? Really? What year is this? 2003? :)) I mean, seriously. If he wanted more money, he should have just asked for it. Cause that "file is too big, I had to split it in 3 parts" bull****, that I don't buy.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Annoyingly, i dont think S4 Mini is gonna come stock again in my country apparently. So I guess id go for N2 then (if its available ). Thing is, the battery life on the S4 Mini is better than the Note 2. 13hrs of Video Playback on Serrano and 12hrs of video on N2. Oo.

Ahah. Knew abt this actually. I don't usually buy things online tho :p
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
Why not? I found a few stores for you. Still looking. But... If you don't want to buy it online... Not sure how many of those have physical stores. But why don't you order it online and pay it when it arrives?
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Hah, simple reason bruh. Im still a kid man :D I don't even have a credit card :p pretty much all my money is frm my savings :p even my parents are like NO ON9-ON9. xD

Anyways, imma hunt at physical shops tmr, hopefully i get smth decent.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
Well, as I said, ok, you can't pay online, with a credit card. But you can still order online, have the phone shipped to your door, and pay cash when you get it. No? :)

For the physical store, yeah, of course, that would be the most convenient method , at least for this case. And there have to be some online stores that also have a physical store somewhere reachable. So....yeah, treasure hunting sounds like fun, as well.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
I didn't know you can get things shipped to doorsteps :what:

Anyways, im probably the most luckiest guy (in my country). S4 Mini Marble White spotted at my local shop. Its the only bloody stock left so imma get it tmr. The pricing is a tad higher than my budget so hope i can get some discounts lol.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
Well, if you're into the white version, sure, go for that. I, for one, prefer the Black Edition. I love that version. Too bad it wasn't on the market when I purchased my Serrano. :D

What I would recommend, is for you to have a closer look everywhere, maybe you can spot the Black Edition one somewhere. Just saying. If you're ok with the white one or if you prefer the white one, then sure, go for that one.

About delivery, well, yeah, over here you can order things to your door and pay for them when you get them. Like pizza! :D This way you can also be sure that your money doesn't get stolen somehow due to credit card fraud or something, and you actually get to see the product you ordered. Well, not necessarily see it, cause it usually comes in a sealed delivery bag, but you can open it on the spot and don't pay for it if it's something wrong with the package (like the seal of the actual box has been broken or the package is destroyed or shows some signs of water damage or something, which would suggest that it hasn't been properly shipped). And so, you can check out the package before actually paying for it. I thought this service should be available everywhere. I might have been wrong though.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Hmm, well, id want a dark coloured Serrano but since white is the only one sellin'... Meh. Im planning to get a custom decal sticker for the device. Maybe carbon fiber texture idk. Oh yes, abt that shop, my bro got "cheated" for buying an ip4 without IMEI number. The Serrano im gettin has been open (the shop displayed the device with top lid open) but idrc abt whether its opened or not as long as its new as heck. Tht got me thinking if maybe the Serrano had some software "defects" or smth. If IMEI is lost or anyth, i can dial a code to check if there is IMEI. Any risks abt this? I mean imma root it and full wipe it soo it shldnt be that bad?

Btw tht kind of service, i doubt its available in my country. I only know McD did this service -,-"
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] huongthanh8690:
Good info, Galaxy S Plus (I9001) has CM12 rom. :D

[GT-I9001][ROM][ION][5.0.1]

[LRX22C] CyanogenMod 12.0 by ADC-Team -

Alpha 1

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s-i9000...0-adc-team-t2971987/post57471093#post57471093

ScreenShots : http://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/?id=7167#screenshots
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
Noted, now we're playing the waiting game. We worked out several device-specific things not included there so plenty to tinker with.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
You're gonna be ok. Just make sure you get a new device, brand new, sealed, and make sure they put the exact IMEI from the box, on your warranty certificate. You can check the IMEI, on the software side, as well (after you unbox the device), just to make sure it's the exact same one, as I'm sure you already know, by dialing *#06# (universal manufacturing code).

I don't think you have to worry about anything else, as long as the IMEI on the box corresponds to the one on the software and on the warranty certificate.

About rooting, make sure to update to the official KK release, if you want, BEFORE flashing anything custom. Samsung's KitKat releases come with a big pain in the ass called KNOX (look it up in case you never heard of it). And, at least for as far as I know, and for as far as Serrano goes, it's non reversible.

So, you've got two options here:

if you want to try out the stock KitKat (though I can guarantee you it's just as bad as stock 4.2.2), update to Samsung's stock KitKat and then, only then, when you're sick of it, flash whatever custom stuff you want. But keep in mind that, by doing this, since KK comes with KNOX bootloader, and since in order to install a custom ROM (such as CM), you need to also flash a custom Recovery (such as CWM or TWRP), by adding a custom recovery to a stock KNOX bootloader, you will void your warranty! Permanently! Because you will trigger "KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x1" flag. So be careful about it.

if you don't want stock KitKat, I think you can just flash a custom Recovery and any custom ROM. I'm not sure if newer versions of 4.2.2 come with KNOX bootloader. So it would be wise of you to check anyway, if you still care about that warranty.

For me and for other countries in the EU, this can be fixed, due to some law... I don't remember now which one was it exactly, but you can look it up if you want. Not sure there is much you can do in Asia. But...I don't know. Maybe there is a law for you as well, to facilitate getting your phone fixed, under warranty, even if you installed custom stuff on it. Personally, I don't care much about the warranty on the software part, cause I'm not a big fan of Samsung's TouchWiz anyway, cause I replace the software with CM anyway, and cause I can usually fix my own ****. And for as far as hardware goes, there is no better warranty than being careful with your phone.

I attached a picture of how does the warranty void flag looks like, once it's triggered.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
The efuse chip, permanently changes state as soon as an unsigned package is flashed on the device. I personally couldn't care at all for warranty as they repair it anyways, especially if it's a hardbrick (they can't check the bootloader if it doesn't work). :p
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Thanks for detailed info tho. Im pretty certain the device is already updated to KK. I actually have CWM, Odin and AOSB all in my PC. Im just waiting for the device to come :D but with luck, lets just hope tht Serrano isn't updated yet. Ik abt KNOX and N3 users are having hard time rooting and stuff...:o
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
Be glad you're not like me, I'm not into warranties so I'd purposely trigger the Knox flag before even flashing anything. :p
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] khusika:
Finally, Christopher release CM12 for ariesve

Look here

ADC Github
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
We talked about it on last page, but I see it's also featured on the portal now. :D

As I said, we have plenty to experiment with. If Arco does make CM12 for Ancora too and push sources, I may try to see what's new and different.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Rite mission accomplished. Imma head to S4 Mini forums. Im still gonna be active here tho ;)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] khusika:
Oopps, i missed it :p

Well, i'm also waiting from Arco. but now i'll try to make device tree compared with ADC source to build AICP & Mokee lollipop, hope it work :)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Madridii:
Maybe this will help you

github.com/cm12-ancora
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Madridii:
Mr. Arne has pushed many commits of ariesve device so he will push for ancora in the near future ..

I don't have time to build it at the moment so you can use the manifest if cm12 from the same url
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] khusika:
Talk about partition size in lollipop for ancora like chris commit https://github.com/AriesVE-DevCon-T...mmit/61e2530580a62d8a9cebb15e4d23d379f4feadd0

Should we change like that?

If i'm not wrong, We have

/cache 59.05mb

/system 527mb

/data 1.07GB

/sdcard 1.7GB

Based on chris commit, we should do a change like this

Not used 59.05mb ( previously used as /cache )

/cache 527mb ( previously used as /system )

/system 1.07GB ( previously used as /data )

/data 1.7GB ( previously used as /sdcard)

So, we use external sd as internal sd automatically

Any idea?
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Madridii:
you can port that commit for ancora .. or wait arco to publish his source!
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] LeroViten:
Just received my "bacon" yesterday. Will still be glad to keep my ancora as a media device and get it updated. Can't express my insatiability! ;)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Madridii:
Congratulations ..

I wish to have that phone ..

Good luck with it bro
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Oneplus One? :eek: Cool! But sadly, you have to get used to the community there. Meanwhile, im tryna' fit in with the S4 Mini gang :D
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] LeroViten:
Thank you, bro. :)

Well, I don't care about community as far as CM rolls the OTAs. :)

I'm aware of how to unlock a bootloader, flash TWRP and obtain root. Other than that - candies. ;)

You're lucky enough, Serrano is a great device. Arne will surely provide updates for few years.

I'm not also leaving this tremendous community that really made me who I am now. I literally have more friends and great people here than in real life. You're incredible. Each one of you. I will also preserve the Ancora device just for respect and simplicity I've experienced. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] arsradu:
About that... I'm gonna be there (and here, as you can see) and other former Ancora users (including and especially Arne, of course) will be there. Now, I don't know...that community is a lot different than this one. And not necessarily in a good way. I was kinda disappointed. I still feel a lot more "at home" here, with you guys. And also, here I managed to make wonderful friends and meet incredible people (including you, twinny :P). And for that, I thank you all.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
Yeknow that part abt u saying "at home"? Yea i feel you bro. Other communites are different. This one feels like "HAH i know you (insert username)" EVERY SINGLE TIME when i wanted to post smth here. Also, this community taught me sh*tload of good infos. I still rmb [MENTION=4410351]honeyx[/MENTION] (if im not mistaken lols) advising me about bloating batteries. [MENTION=4770485]pepoluan[/MENTION] and his PRISTINE ROM install (and Seeder :D) that we've been doing till the day we die...eventually (so sry). These elderlies taught us a hell lot of things really. Good times. :)

Sent from mah AssForMini :D
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
I only got the phone back in May, so I can hardly join that discussion, but it sure is nice to see a settled community here :p

Let's hope we live through a few more years.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] khusika:
Whats going on with your ancora? :/
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Harakhti:
I was testing some rather snarky commits regarding CM12 sources but decided to pass on it and wait when I saw that ADC and Arco did something usable for the S Plus.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] TiTAN-O-One:
U guys heard about this?

Www.m.gsmarena.com/micromax_announces_yureka_with_cyanogen_os_11_in_india-news-10521.php

This cost significantly lesser than my phone

Sent from mah AssForMini :D
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] sir mordred:
ım not sure the downloading the whole cm12 sources(30 GB) and make a build for our phone because heyy. arne is already working on it and he will show it to us soon but ı cant wait to test :)

so ım in impasse at the moment :confused:

well... ı will wait some more time (one or two days) and then if there is still no L for W then its time to sync the repos and make one for W

[MENTION=3044346]arco68[/MENTION] ı think you did it... :) (and ım sure you succeded long time ago.. ı mean booting and running L on Wonder.... ) then what is the blocking you from sharing your work? :)

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hey maannn..... if you dont want to wait then build your L yourself...

No ETA.... :D