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[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Yeah but for ATT there is no unlimited data plans anymore. What's the point of owning a Ferrari if you drive it in a parking lot.

Why load desktop versions of anything when you have a 200mb, 2gb, 5gb cap with a hefty price?

Is wifi really that out of reach that you're willing to pay extra just to read an article. I don't see anyone downloading stuff on limited data.

For the majority of the population and us here, there is no best of both worlds sadly. I for one chose to drive the Mustang that still gets 30 mpg on a limitless track.
[Galaxy S III General] joshnichols189:
No it doesn't. I used the $50 plan on my i9100 and my N7000 and it was as advertised. $50 for unlimited everything.
[Galaxy S III General] ExTREmE99:
oh i totally understand, but i still have my 30 dollar "unlimited" plan. im tempted to swap to the LTE version though
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Hey u mind my asking what speeds ur getting in de? Up here in pa I'm barely getting 2mb download. I'm about 40 miles north of philly by allentown so I'm in a heavily populated area. But most the time my phone is on "h" or 3g
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Yeah we already established this a few days ago................just saying.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Usually average 5-6Mbps at my house.
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Did u change ur apn settings? Or did u just use the ones that showed up on the phone automatically. I wanna say I might need to changebmy apn settings cause this micosim came out of my htc one x lte phone
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
I used the automatic setting after verifying it was correct.

You might be using the LTE APN settings. Those won't give good results usually. Not with our phones.
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Can u direct me on what apn settings I should use. This is what my phone is set at automatically from the sim
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Already looks like you are on the correct settings.
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Oh OK then. Mustbjust be the area. Oh well thanks tho :)
[Galaxy S III General] racerex:
I'm getting 45Mbps in San Diego on AT&T LTE. This speed takes browsing the web to a whole new level. There's no way I'd go back to HSDPA+ on which I was getting 5Mbps.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
For web browsing and Facebook, LTE is overkill.

I'd rather save $10-$15 a month, have better battery life and a much better GPU/CPU combo.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Just give them the gs3 imei number this time. It will be fine.
[Galaxy S III General] sanroy24:
wellif you use ant Att branded smartphone after you switch, their system can automatically detect that you are not on a compatible plan and will switch you back to a smtfone pan...trick only wrks with international/non att branded smart phones.

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...and incase thay ask what kind of a phone you usin this time, make sure you tell them its a dumbphone!!
[Galaxy S III General] dkotoric:
No thats not why, i gave then my dump phones imei as well, i wonder if att has the gs3 flagged

Sent from my HTC One X
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I assure you it has not. Usually they detect it within hours. I've been using my gs3 undetected from past couple of days without any issues.

Sent from Rooted debloated stock Galaxy S3 OG I9300
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Yeah I don't know. I'm gonna wait a day or two and call back. I mean I had an iphone before but haven't put the sim back in the iphone at all since I changed. I'm afraid to give them the s3 ime. Cam they flag the ime on these phones. I just wanna make sure in case I want to sell it later on.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
they can't flag imei for using an unlimited data. :p it will be perfectly fine! As the matter of fact they can't flag imei at all.

Don't want to deviate from topic but a small story.

Once I was going to buy an iPhone from craigslist (my first craigslist buy). I was worried what if the iPhone was stolen? so I called Att representative and asked what happens if it is a stolen phone? she said you can buy it even if it is stolen and it will work. they don't block imei at all. I was surprised and I thought she may not know about it. So I went to a local Att store and verified this. Att doesn't block imei or phones as such. I have verified thus information in Texas, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota Att stores.

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[Galaxy S III General] farfromovin:
6-7mbps on LTE?
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
nope on hspa+

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[Galaxy S III General] mg2195:
Yeah...you don't get LTE on the unlimited plan as its meant for dumb phones...soooo....your 50 mb down dream sadly will not occur....besides as far as I know the international does not support LTE could be wrong about that though....
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
yup no lte, but that's the point, lte is just a fancy high speed, is it really required? For hspa+ you get 6mbps down and better battery life.

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[Galaxy S III General] Link9228:
So... I'm wondering how exactly this works? I don't currently have AT&T... but I'm sick of how much Verizon costs and was planning on getting the international SGS3. Do I need to be on contract / post-pay, or does this work with pre-pay?

Thanks for the tips, though, OP
[Galaxy S III General] kirdroid:
Buy the international phone and separately buy att post paid plan. No contract since you are not getting a subsidized device from them. You can also check out straight Talk which uses same att network but you get unlimited everything for $45.
[Galaxy S III General] Link9228:
Thanks for the info. I'll have to look into it more.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
I have made the switch. But I notice my data connection is now poor. It's not really working well.

I had a HOX before, so I had a Micro SIM and am coming from a 4G LTE plan. Do I need to call them back and make sure my sim card is set up correctly?

EDIT: NVM, it's just where I work in Valencia, CA. Service for ATT kind of sucks out here.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Okay.... I new my sms is not working... Going through this has bee.. Kind of hectic and scary. On top of that my data isn't working well as it did before.

I believe it might be due to APN settings.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I took my 4g sim card right out of AT&T galaxy note, used a sim cutter, and inserted it in gs3. It automatically picked up the apn settings. All I did was call AT&T and update my IMEI number after that.

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[Galaxy S III General] brian6685:
Anyone know where to buy a pebble blue sgs3 where I can have it overnighted to me in the states?
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
For some reason my SMS stopped working. I don't understand what's going on. They must have done something stupid on their side.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
it's a trusted method and actually should not interfere with your data. If you want to confirm you may call AT&T and add a smart phone data plan and see if it makes any change. Trust me, I've done this testing so many times in three states with different international phones, with places with and without lte available.

My work location has very bad connection but I'll try to run stone tests for you.

Sent from Rooted debloated stock Galaxy S3 OG I9300
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Yeah, I'm chatting with ATT right now I'm trying to get my text messages back to working...
[Galaxy S III General] racerex:
Aside from gaming, the 8960 dual core Krait is a better chipset than the Exynos 4212. The 8960 has a vastly superior micro architecture that's based on the Cortex A15 as opposed to Exynos' older Cortex A9. This has been discussed ad nauseam.

As far as battery life is concerned I am getting great standby on LTE which was the main concern with previous generations of LTE. It gets me through a normal day of browsing, music streaming, and email. Better than my Xperia Arc S which was just HSPA+.
[Galaxy S III General] ExTREmE99:
5mbps doesnt sound so bad. wish i could get that around here. the thing i do love about LTE is just how fast all the internet reliant apps are. google maps loads up maps + traffic nearly instantly when zooming in/out. streaming music starts instantly (google play/soundcloud)...theres just so many applications for bleeding fast internet!!!
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Blah blah blah, we heard all that already. We all know. Something that doesn't factor in is that Samsung made their Exynos with their software team in mind. It's always going to be better optimized because of that.

And the Exynos with full 4 core multi threading support would beat the S4, so it's still a toss up in a direct comparison.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
After comparing the two for a few days I can say that the Exynos is much smoother.

Quote architectures all you want. Just because a Ferrari has a 48 valve DOHC motor doesn't mean that it's faster than an 'older' push rod V8.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
Translation:

"My time isnt worth much. I would rather have $10-15/mo (whats that, lunch one day?) in exchange for a LOT of my time waiting on things to load, which not only negates the insignificant financial savings but also pretty much voids the minuscule cpu benefits. Of course I can run AnTuTu faster than you.....which counts for a LOT apparently."

On the other side of this coin is never knowing when ATT will flip a switch and require an IMEI for all devices, and good luck getting a warranty repair/replacement from your carrier in the USA, and if your service is ****ty its not like you can call them up to get it fixed because you are using an unauthorized device. You cant drop in to any store with any device or service issues......

I would pay an extra $15/mo for device warranty coverage, LTE speed, service support and to not have the hammer hanging overhead waiting to be dropped. I'll give up higher benchmarks for the much larger benefits. Two more cores and an unmeasurable loading speed difference isnt worth all that. (200-300 milliseconds maybe?) If saving a few milliseconds is so important why is giving up LTE which would save you far far more time even a consideration?

Batteries are cheap. Grab a desktop dock and second battery for like $50 and never look at battery life again! Stop using battery life like its some sort of limited commodity. The solution is right in front of you. For $50 you can break free of that demon for the life of your device!

I just cant buy into the "save $15/mo to get slower service" that keeps getting blindly justified here. If people took that attitude we wouldn't even have LTE service. So you should be open to the opposing argument. No personal attacks or remarks....purely on topic devils advocate discussion here if you will. :)
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Waiting on things to load? Really? You know that the web is mostly text, right?? I don't need server speeds when I'm out in the go. And when I am at home I have a computer or if need be a 45Mbps wifi connection.

You just don't get a lot of things apparently.
[Galaxy S III General] Gu3ssWho:
Wow, I thought they removed all the negative post from this about a week ago?
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
He keeps coming back to troll.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
Even when at home, (where I have a 20mbps broadband connection that I pay an extra $10/mo for over the 10mbps standard) I stay on 4G LTE service because it is overall faster. I use my phone to surf more than my laptop. I have WiFi everywhere at work and never use it because its so damn slow. Yes.....waiting on a web page to load. I dont know what websites you are using but all the websites I use are loaded down with images and animations and dynamic content that is nearly instant on LTE. If you wait an additional 5 seconds for a page to load its going to take a lifetime of higher benchmarks to make up for that......it doesnt make any sense what you propose.....wait 5 seconds to save a couple tenths of a second and even then only in limited applications.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Five seconds isn't worth $15. I've been online at 900 baud back in the 80s. People are just too impatient these days.

Might wanna Google 900 baud.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
I got you beat, I was on the internet before there was even a world wide web and remember when Netscape was boss...lol good times!......and its not $15 for 5 seconds. I agree that would be a ridiculous assertion. Its cumulative. If two devices are used the same, they each load 200 web pages a day, but one device loads them on average 5 seconds faster, thats 1000 seconds, or 16.7 minutes. Lets round down to 15 minutes. 15 min a day, so 15(min) x 30(days) is 450 minutes a month. Divided by $15/mo savings is $1 for 30 minutes.....check my math....I hate it. :)

No amount of battery savings, AnTuTu benchmark scores, quad core e-peen and certainly not $15 can offset the LTE time savings alone. I get paid way more than $1/hr at work and I would say my time is worth far far more to me than it is to them.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Opinions are like assholes, let's keep to the facts:

1) LTE is fantastic, no one is denying that. But, you do get reduced battery life and you will more than likely be locked into either a tiered data plan (not unlimited) or be throttled once you hit some magical wall on a grandfathered unlimited plan.

2) If you travel internationally as often as I do, the international version is also a major plus. My very first mobile phone was with Sprint (in college), but I eventually had to jump ship to AT&T as Asia/Europe (where I usually travel to) is predominantly GSM. Yes, I understand there are CDMA phones with simcard slots now, but I prefer to have a device that is unlocked and unhindered from the get-go without having to deal with US carriers to get it unlocked.

As a side note, it was rather hilarious when one of my execs had to travel to Asia last year with his iPhone (that was unlockable by AT&T) and his old Nokia dumbphone. Couldn't give him enough **** about it, but he's now a proud owner of an AT&T SGS2... and glad to report he's never looking back!

3) You get FAR LESS dev support with the US variants compared to the international ones. No point arguing this, I've used the international SGS2 since launch and been helping a few guys at the office with their AT&T I-777 variants (including the exec referenced above). The fact that there are already about the same number of kernels out for the AT&T SGS2 and the recently launched international SGS3 makes this a point of no contention.

4) Like a lot of people, I don't like contracts. Just about everything in my life that is financially feasible is contract free. The reason you sign a contract when you buy a device from the US carriers is because they amortize the cost of that device (trust me, costs way more than $199 to manufacture these puppies) over 24 payments. The medianet plan, on the other hand, is an upsell option, which I can walk away from anytime. For those of us that don't like to be tied to contracts, this is attractive.

Summary: While the lure of LTE is very much alive, all the benefits above from having an international device outweigh the benefits of LTE at this time (especially with all the restrictions come with LTE). For those of us that see and value these benefits of paying upfront for an international version, it's a no brainer.

If all you care about is LTE, that's great. Clearly, none of these points will matter to you, and frankly, neither will this thread... so move along.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Umm. I said 80s. You are talking about mid 90s.

I'm talking about pre MS-DOS days.

If you need to use your phone for your primary connection you're doing something wrong. Get a laptop and an LTE air card.

You aren't making any winning scores here.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
Re: Benefits of International Samsung Galaxy S3 for US (AT&T) users

As I said above, I have a laptop and 20mbps broadband at home on a dual band wireless N router. I still use my phone because its faster. Like the man said, facts not opinions. Why would I pay for another LTE aircard when I have one with me everywhere?

Im gonna leave this alone now.....dont want to get you all riled up again.....peace.
[Galaxy S III General] dieselfatal:
This thread has gone off topic so much. Why are guys posting here that have US versions. Mods need to step up and clean this up a bit.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
Actually we are on topic. Sticking to facts too. Just because people disagree and have opposing facts to present doesnt mean its gone off topic. Or is your version of on topic only those who agree with you?
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
Cant we just get rid of you already?!?!? Go troll somewhere else.. You are pushing what's best for YOU on everyone else.. almost like a religious freak trying to push their beliefs on someone else.. this is the forum for the international not any of the S4 variants.. go preach in those forums and I'm sure a lot more people will agree with you.

LTE is NOT important for everyone. I pull 5-9 mbps on HSPA+ (when I'm on it and not on wifi which is 90-95% of the time) and that is PLENTY fast for what I need it for when I'm not on wifi. Emails, texting, surfing, some games

For me a more fluid UI is important... F**K benchmarks, I dont even have a single benchmark app on my phone. It has been reported by many the quad is more fluid that is what is more important to me, not LTE so just because it's a must have for you, doesnt mean it's a must have for everyone else. Who are you? God of the mobile world? You seriously sound like a religious freak..Get off it already seriously..
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
What are you doing either at home or on your phone that would be that much different at 10mbps vs. 20mbs? The source you're pulling from, especially if you're streaming, controls the speed at which you receive data as much as the speed of your network does. More is always better but at some point you hit the law of diminishing returns. And while my time's valuable and I have ADD (kidding) a 30 second vs. one minute download doesn't stress me too much. And 20mps at home is a choice for most of us today. And there's no mystery about AT&T's soft caps any longer. It's between 2-5GB depending on your plan. At least for now there's no soft cap on the data for Non-Smartphones plan and to me (and I'm guessing others) that's an important benefit.
[Galaxy S III General] Gu3ssWho:
You on Verizon. This is a place for International or US. Go back to the Verizon forum or get an S3, then return. Until then no one cares to debate with you. Thanks for coming!

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[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
I am not pushing anything. I am offering another viewpoint. I think you should relax. There is plenty of side by side videos out there that show the two handsets are pretty much dead equal in terms of GUI performance. The LTE feature is pretty much the largest difference between the two so naturally it is a big talking point. You dont see me starting threads about how the LTE model is soooo mucb better and teaching people how to leech bandwidth for cheap.....Im just another guy with opinions just like you. Chill.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Clearly, some people have larger assholes than others.

I also find it hilarious when he says that he prefers surfing on his phone rather than on a regular notebook/desktop just because of LTE (b3c4uz3 it da b0mb). What a freaking joke, I surf on my phone because it's there and that's all I have to use. You bet your ass I'll be on my dual LED displays at home for doing any serious surfing, who the hell would CHOOSE to scroll around and zoom in and out all the time on a webpage? Completely asinine and idiotic.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
But you guys are right, obviously there are some who cant take an opposing viewpoint in this thread, so Ill leave it be. Apologies for not wanting to agree with you.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
We can take an opposing point of view. However, there's this thing in life called tact, which you clearly lack. I guarantee you, I will ever go over to the US carrier forums telling everyone there how much better my decision is (MULTIPLE times, which is what you've done), and then use "but I'm just providing an opposing viewpoint" as some lame excuse.

We already understand you prefer LTE over just about anything else in life. We get it, we really do. But, we're also ready to send you off with flowers, fireworks, and all sorts of other happy ****.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Yep, I think he just wants more support and users with the S4 variant and to reassure himself that being stuck with the S4 is okay.

And the last thing he just keeps forgetting and won't understand is that NOT EVERYONE HAS A GRANDFATHERED UNLIMITED LTE DATA PLAN.

I just wish some people didn't have such a thick skull or they would Q-Tip their ears every once in awhile.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Yep, "misery loves company."
[Galaxy S III General] Zabalba:
The only thing anyone needs to be jealous of is cmd512 whip.

I hate you...

As for Mr Mandy, you have demonstrated at great lengths you are having deep doubts as to what phone you truly want. It's akin to top level christian repubs secretly wanting some pudding pops.

Everyone knows it, hence the kind of feedback you are receiving here.

It's just a phone. Get some help!
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
I lol'd at this one.. lol
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
You guys lol, much luv
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
If you haven't noticed that yet, I'll make it clear to you - You are not welcome in this thread. Now don't 'lol' in this thread please and go away. Your viewpoint is biased and there is no reason for you to be here. You are simply a troll because of two reasons - This is not a comparison thread between International vs. Verizon version. The closest it gets is to the International vs. AT&T version. So if you are not having an International version or an AT&T version, please stop posting here. And please unsubscribe from this thread so that you do not get any updates.