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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CyberpunkDad:
My progression:

Unnamed, then MIUI then CM7 then CM9. Doubt I'll ever leave CM9.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twangansta:
Totally agree. I initially used AOKP with Siyah, and felt it was choppier than CM7 with Siyah (still great though). But then I tried fluxi and haven't looked back :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Colton127:
PARANOIDANDROID = Smoothest "Pure ICS" experience ever. Yes, faster than HTC One X stock overall as well (Browser loads pages faster, settings open faster, those kinds of things).

Going to download Serendipity 9 just to test out the new TouchWiz.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] willbs94:
I have to say that CM9 is pretty beast! Best ICS I have had.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Currently trying out AOKP with fluxi......seems to be running pretty smooth. Snapper and another than siyah. Let's see how the battery holds up
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twangansta:
I had AOKP Build 37 with that time's Fluxi and battery life was amazing. Haven't been able to get a full cycle in yet cause Task and ktoonsez update too fast!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Colton127:
Serendipity 9.4 is awesome. The new TouchWiz is great and it's extremely fast and smooth.

Try it out!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jshamoon:
+1 Best ROM to date on my SGS2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jshamoon:
ShoStock is also an awesome ROM. I was rocking it for a while with 0 issues. No FC's, lockups etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] \/icious:
I'll throw another nod to AKOP + Fluxxi. I really want pdroid but this combo really is phenomenal. I want to try PARANOIDANDROID but I'm have trouble pulling away from AKOP
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 88EVGAFTW:
I am very happy with the latest AOKP and Fluxi kernel*Didnt mess with any GB roms, went straight to ICS before all the buttons were working for the i777. Never looked back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mzaur:
+1 for AOKP/Fluxi

Also try Apex launcher. I like it the best.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xhepera:
Running this combo myself and, frankly, I don't see how my experience could be any smoother. My only other experience was a couple of days on Samsung stock GB and a few weeks with SHOstock 1.9.4 and one of Entropy's kernels. *That* was sweet as well. :) So this is the only ICS ROM I've used. For my particular phone and needs though, this combo has been superb.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] weedolo9y:
Aokp /fluxx

Sent from my SGH-I777 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
I tried AOKP with Fluxxi and it is stable. Also tried Paranoid Android. However I will still say that there is some issue with the ICS touch response/sensitivity. How much ever I tried to tweak the sensitivity it is still not at par with Ginger bread.

Some might say, its not a big deal but it saddens me that with ICS android is still not at par with iOS and WP7 with respect to touch response.

Also, battery life for me has been pretty bad on ICS roms and I consider myself a medium user. with ICS my phone typically lasts 10-12 hrs with 2-3 hrs of screen on time. I have tried keeping the brigtness to a minimum which squeezes a bit more out of the battery but it is pretty irritating working on a dim screen especially when we have a super Amoled Plus screen.

TO really understand what I am talking about (touch sensitivity) I would encourage all of you to try out a GB rom for a few days - especially the UnOriginal Rom. I did not realize how bad ICS touch sensititvity was untill I tried out this ROM. DO give it a shot if only for a few days.

I am currently decided to go back to Gingerbread - UnOriginal 1.4.6 ROM and give it a whole week of run to gauge the battery life. I am verry happy with this ROM so far - I will stick with it if the battery life turns out better. I remember when I was on stock GB ROM I used to go atleast 24-30 hours with medium usage. Never had that kind of life on any ICS ROM.

Again, these are jsut my opinions - yours obviously may differ as will your experience with the various ROMs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
This. Touch sensitivity and fluidity is really my only gripe. Some people don't realize how big of a difference there is because they either went straight to ICS or have been on it a while. The difference is astounding imo. I had made the decision to use ICS but was so bothered by the feel that I went back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Just wanted to report back on my observations on the battery life using the Unoriginal ROM. I am seeing a significant increase in the battery life over ICS roms. On ICS I had to look for a charger at around 6 pm....whereas on this ROM I have 20% remaining at midnight. Same apps and almost similar usage.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mzaur:
Change the touch options in xtweaker for fluxi. There is a gingerbread touch preset. Honestly touch works great for me.

As for battery life you need to do a little tweaking. Use sio scheduler and enable AFTR and LPA idle mode. Set max CPU to 1000mhz and use a battery friendly governor. Set Max suspend to 400. The on demand governor that comes with fluxi is tweaked and runs great. Also try a different modem. LC5 seems to be battery friendly.

I easily get 4 hours of screen time. This phone just has a battery hog display
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mzaur:
Then stick with GB. I get great battery on AOKP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
This is my absolute worst ever since having the SGS2.

It is AOKP 6/18 and Fluxxi 6/18 combo.

Never have this kind of crappiness on any of AOKP before today.

Also, no Deep Sleep displayed. Will have to let it settle for a day or two b4 moving on with something else.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mattdm:
Go read the last 10-or-so pages of the Fluxi thread if you haven't already.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xhepera:
This has been addressed. Read the thread and get the new kernel. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mzaur:
I'm getting great results on fluxi 6-11
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Thanks matt and pera for bringing that up.

Honestly, I didn't follow the Fluxxi thread at all, my bad though.

I've seen from somewhere, probably the AOKP thread, people mentioned about that but that was a while ago and I assume that if the kernel has problem and been addressed, the author should already have fixed in his next build so when grabbing the 6/18, I thought that has been done properly, I guess not.

Again, thanks you bro.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xhepera:
Ktoonsez had made some nice changes to the kernel but evidently something got inadvertently fouled up resulting in the phone not entering deep sleep if wifi was on. But he hopped right on it and got a 6-19 revision out today. So far the consensus is that it's working great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Yeap, I got that, I got the 6/19 installed.

Let's see what happens next.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] switters1:
Yeah, I don't get the whole change in touch response. ICS was a throwback in that regard.Everything was lightening fast in GB. Now I feel like I'm on an Iphone 3GS. Running CM9 now and hoping that touch response will improve one day. One glorious day...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TONWAT:
GB is Smooth.

I am also in a same boat. I tried many ICS but I always having a problem like reboot or freeze. Gingerbread is smooth. I am using Unnamed ROM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Guys - currently trying out MIUI v4 2.6.16 port by ktoonsez. Been pretty happy with the ROM so far. Battery life is at par with other iCS roms (which is a big deal for MIUI).

Very polished ROM and great unique features which make it very user friendly. I know it is somewhat iphone like (which we all hate from the bottom of our souls) but this ROM is a pleasure to use.

I am using ktoonsez's modded MIUI kernel which is giving me good battery life compared to Siyah even though it has fewer CPU freq steps.

Feels like I am using a high end device (finally!)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Honestly, I've seen more than enough people complaining about touch responsiveness of ICS, in this thread alone already has a few complains. I've tried many other ROMs from ATT stock to various custom GB and AOKP ICS, currently, I have NOT seen the difference on how the screen reacts. They're all pretty much to same to me, silky smooth. Am I a lucky one?

Haven't tried other ICS ROMs though.

Can someone who complaining please give me a brief description of how the touch not responding? I want to try on mine and see/feel it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VanillaCracker:
Moo

Read my description a few posts back. Good things come from those who are patient (read the whole thing), I know it's long but it's not like it was just a bunch of crap -__- :D .

Also, yeah I guess you're just not very observant, cus there's an obvious degradation in touch response on ICS. Imo AOKP is better than MIUIs, it could just be cus MIUI allows me to move faster though so I notice when things don't react in a sensitive manner.

I've used just about every version of MIUI V4 I can find (except for AdyScorpius which is the one I really need to try!) and they've all been lacking in touch response (like all else ICS). Pretty sure ktoonz version is same as regular V4 with his kernal in place though eh? I recognized the crispy difference, but it's the rom that's the problem, not the kernal, as I mentioned in my post. I couldn't hold it for more than a couple days before I restored my GB image :eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Yes, your post was one of the reason why I posted mine, the touch response.

Either I am in fact, not very observant or lucky enough 'cuz it is NOT happening.

That's the reason why I was asking. Clueless of what and why you have such a bad touch. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Lawrence of a Labia:
The only time I notice a considerable difference in response is with games that require a fast swiping action (e.g. Flick Golf, Can Knockdown, etc.). This is the case with both Touchwiz based ICS roms and CM9/AOKP. It's hard to explain what I experience, but basically, I see swipes that frequently don't register or register incorrectly. For example, I'll attempt a move that requires an upward swipe that goes the length of the phone, but it'll register as a move that goes a quarter of the way. Never had this issue with any GB roms. I'm not a big mobile gamer, but it's hard to enjoy the games that I do own and play when I can't play them like I used to on GB. That said, the only time I'll stop using ICS is when Jellybean comes out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VanillaCracker:
Yeah my B I wasn't trying to insult you. I do notice an obvious difference though, but like I said in my original post I am a quick user, so it's very noticeable to me when the rom lags, or simply can't keep up to speed with what I'm doing to the point where it doesn't register a stroke I made or touch I had already pressed (but the rom wasn't there yet). Lawrence explained it very well above, that's basically exactly how I see the difference too, cept I don't play games, my experience is simly from menu maneuvers and the like.

Jelly Bean better be the ****, is all I have to say haha. Can't wait till ICS bottoms out though, If I remember correctly, GB wasn't nearly as fast as it was in october. Can someone confirm that???? :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Download Temple Run and if possible play it on ICS and on GB. YOu will know the difference.

Also try this. Go to settings. Scroll quickly through the menu and try to click on one of the settings while it is still scrolling. In GB it works but in ICS the click will go unregistered. It only registers the click if it is scrolling very slowly or perfectly still.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Thanks to all Lawrence, Vanilla, and Topha.

I got it now :)

Firstly, I don't play games a lot, the 2 most playing games are Sudoku and Unblock Me :).

Secondly, since Topha brought up the Temple Run, yes, I see what Lawrence described, I have that issue too but I keep thinking because of my bad, not because of the ICS. Said when I swipe up to jump and end up in the water, I blame myself for not swipe early enough :)

---------- Post added at 11:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:34 AM ----------

Update: I also do believe switching kernels do make difference, though.

so I guess, it's kernel related, not the firmware itself.

Thought?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VanillaCracker:
Finally, someone else UNDERSTANDS. Lol. FML, wish it would get fixed already. I'm really hoping it's not just what they're thinking ICS should be like, and that it will be more polished but still stay precise like this.

You're welcome bud
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Lawrence of a Labia:
Could be because I have seen some improvement while using Fluxi, both in game usage and the UI.

Speed was never really issue for me. But, IIRC, it did take some time for the roms and kernels to achieve peak performance in terms of battery and stability, reaching its apex shortly before ICS came out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VanillaCracker:
Yeah that's what I recognized too. Alright with that said then it'll probably be around october/november when **** really starts to get tweaked down to the pure speed portions, because at that point everything will have been weeded out.

Although to be perfectly honest it seems like development of ICS has been going along a lot faster than GB did (bigger crowd of users = more random devs coming in?) cus even though there are enough bugs out there, there seem to be a lot more committed devs too, who come out with weekly fixes. So may be even around end of Sept when speed tweaks start becoming the focus; assuming all features will be out by end of August. :victory:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Prophet16:
I just switched to Serendipty 8.2 (GB) with Siyah 2.6.13, added 2 mods (CPU Editor and Init.Doh for better battery life). Before this I was running Shostock2 with Siyah and i thought that was smooth. But as soon as i switched to this Gingerbread ROM i have a new definition of what smooth is. I'll stick to GB for a while.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] aj9507:
maybe it is time to shop around a bit, I too went from stock out of the box uck66 straight to CM9 after a week ( a day of that was devoted to reading and re reading creepy's guide) so i never really explored custom GB ROMS much. side note loving the new xda 2013 beta lay out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] doublen1:
Unoriginal or Unnamed are the cat's meow of GB around here. But all the devs have transitioned to ICS for obvious reasons. But if you want a smooth and reliable ROM then you can't go wrong with either of those two. Unnamed is my standard fallback rom if I can't get the newest ICS eye candy to work right. I'll stick with it for a few days but I always end up flashing a new ICS rom again. I swear...it's a disease! lol

BTW...if you want an unbelievably smooth and customizable ROM then try the Paranoid Android ROM on the I9100 Port page. I've had it for about a week and its freakin' sweet!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jthatch12:
I had to get a new i777(my power button stopped working on my old one) but anyway, I was stuck on gingerbread for a day before switching to AOKP and boy are you right! Gingerbread is super smooth!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VanillaCracker:
Haha my power button stopped working too. Got my phone october and sometime march the **** faulted out. It was a HUGE ***** to get back to stock without using a power button work CWM with lol. Touch CWM hadn't been out yet either. But GB is the way to go. Finally found the perfect ICS rom for myself yesterday, but earlier today I'm back on GB. Just can't stand the touch sensitivity, and I'm really not a fan of anything they've been doing with ICS so far in terms of interface. Seems more chopped up + face unlock and choice of screen definitions (dynamic, standard, movie) and that's about it. Not my cup of tea. Hate the swipe crap too. I'm sticking to my AdyScorp MIUI GB and waiting for a time when an ICS rom so revolutionary comes out that people flock to it, and until that comes out GB it is :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Do you have a link where I can get this GB based AdyScorpius MIUI from for the sgh-i777?

I am very interested in trying out this rom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VanillaCracker:
Fastest Rom I've tried Yet. HW Acceleration FTW.

Oh yeah man, if you're the type of user I think you are, you'll be glad you tried it. What I did is i just got the I1900 version and hellraised it. Works perfectly fine. I would suggest, especially for this rom, that you wait 5-10 minutes after booting it up for the first time, before you do anything (go into settings, open apps, etc.) just to let things settle. Less likely for random problems to happen.

Here's the link for the thread for the Rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1488399&highlight=adyscorpius

And the thread for the Hellraiser: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1484223

If you have any questions let me know. You should be able to figure it all out though...if you're not an idiot :D .... jk.......sorta. Enjoy :p

P.s. The hellraiser is pretty straight forward, you just open up the program, select the rom,select kernal, etc. You'll be choosing CM7/MIUI obviously since it's not Sammy or ICS. For the tweaks, I honestly don't know if it's best to leave em as is or just certain ones (cus I have no idea how the rom was built) so I just select all of them :D . And you can add certain things if you want. The rom comes with spare parts already so the only thing i added was DSP Manager. The new rom is located in some random ass spot. on my PC it's under My user file, Local, temp, then rar$82 or something like that. Hope this helps
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] roadrash7:
Yes so annoying. Now considering going back to gingerbread. Miss smoothness and insanely awesome battery life. Battery life on some ics is good but GB was better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Thanks for the links. I was able to hellraise the rom successfully using ktoonsez's app. It was my first time but really ktoonsez has made it super easy to use. Just had to download v14 Siyah kernel for GB and the right modem.

However had few issues with the adyscorpius rom.

- Market was not working. Had to download and install newer market version.

- Video cam causes a FC. Big bummer. was not able to resolve so was a deal breaker for me.

- overall theme is too dark for me (i know i can always choose a different them but really like the stock MIUI look)

ROM is pretty smooth but not as smooth as some of the other GB roms - e.g. UnOriginal by ryude.

Also, I am currently using cMIUI port by mickeymauz which is a MIUI on CM9 base with xxKernel. This ROM is really working out good for me. Has been more stable than ktoonsez's MIUI port. Battery life is good and default touch sensitivity is really good. Besides xxKernel gives you a lot of flexibility to tweak things if you need to.

Pretty happy with cMIUI 2.6.22
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VanillaCracker:
I do not have a problem with either the market or video on Adyscorp. Although when I was reading up on the forum (before posting to you) I did notice that a bunch of people were complaining about the market not working. Honestly mine works fine, maybe I got in before a certain google play update. Video works fine for me though, could be a bad flash (assuming you did davlic clear + cache clear - I always just clear everything + format system). I understand the deal breaker in that though, that'd be a big deal haha. I've tried UnNamed, not UnOriginal, but Ady is on par with UnNamed from what I can tell (not competing or anything here) but might just be the MIUI vs. Smsung that makes it hard to tell.

I think I've already mentioned it in earlier post here but I've tried cMIUI. It's pretty good! Hey I know you probably just settled in flashing that and everything, but you should try out Kaffe4Eck's MIUI too :D , it's the same deal, AOSP/CM9 based. Good ****. I found it to be even more to my liking than cMIUI's. And when I tried cMIUI I was impressed. Still pissed me off after a couple hours though, which is why I went back to GB. I believe cMIUI is snappier than most v4, but I don't think the touch sensitivity is any different (I could be wrong - but I didn't notice it). Either way, let me know what's up. Kaffee was a little hard to get working at first (Hellraise and then had to flash a couple differnt kernels - don't try neak - before it actually "updated" (on boot) so it could recognize SD and network. BTW, does Fluxx work on I777? I know it's an ICS kernel but I thought it was only I9100. If not, I haven't found the right file haha. You mind directing me to where you got yours?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Yes Fluxi is available for i777, ktoonsez has ported it to our devices. He has a thread in the android development forum. the 2.6.22 version of cMIUI comes packaged with Fluxi (xxkernel) by default.

Updated: here is the link for ktoonsez's Fluxi thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1664688
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shishir95:
I've made a ROM that focuses on being smooth. My users are reporting it is nearly as good as the Gingerbread version I had in February. Give it a try, link is in the desc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tophaholic:
Shishir....I have tried your rom..... frankly speaking I did not find it any smoother than other deodexed roms...e.g serendipity and shostock. Does an odexed rom really offer any other advantage besides faster initial boot after install? After the cache and dalvik cache is formed a deodexed will be as quick as an odexed. Isn't that correct.

The smoothness we are talking here is the overall superior touch response on gingerbread compared to ICS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shishir95:
The advantages of an odexed ROM are very hard to observe scientifically. I've found it stays smoother longer and under more circumstances than a de-odexed system, but that could just be a placebo. Several of my testers and users report the same phenomenon, so it's hard to see if the results are statistically significant. Based on user input, my ROM tends to be smoother than most other ROMs they have used.

and Yes, the touch response in ICS is WAY different. I wouldn't say worse, but it's different. It's all kernel tweaks in charge of that. I've found that most kernels nowadays have gingerbread touch-values, or atleast I know that Siyah does, allowing for a gingerbread-like experience. Apps like Draw Something still reveal how terrible ICS really is for fine adjustments to location on a touch-screen. It's appalling and you'd think Google/Samsung would be going farther, not retracting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jt.61:
Its seems you guys will love jellybean because of project butter!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shishir95:
Google's just ripping off what Apple did to make iOS so responsive since Day One. I like it. But I'm shocked no one has come up with a way to implement that into our own kernels. It seems pretty straightforward except for the "user prediction algorithms" that are supposed to predict what the user is going to click. I'm pretty sure our super talented kernel devs can make a function that ramps up CPU and GPU clock when the user touches the screen. I'm not really excited for Project Butter for what it will bring in 7 months time (the time it'll take for updates to flow to the i9100 and eventually the i777 and stay stable), but what it can do for ICS kernels in terms of inspiration. Heck, maybe we'll see a i9100 port of JB in a couple of months and with it it'll bring the new tweaks.