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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rozza C:
Question...

Is it safe to use SetCPU for profiling...

and IncrediControl for Voltage control....

(bellowing voice)

...at the SAME time!

*dun dun duuuuuuun!!!*
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Moerf:
Thank you for your really fast update. Battery drain is gone.

I can also not confirm problems with the screen while loading.

And I am using SetCPU for profiling and incredicontrol vor voltage control at the same time. But I am also using the default voltages at incredicontrol because I have no time to UV at the moment. So that may avoid problems ^^
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
charging with a chargerr other than HTC's or using a cable other than HTC's may cause problems with the digitizer (i had that problem when using a charger made in china)...

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Dragoth:
Whatever you changed in the newest Kernel... pure AWESOMENESS.

Performance has gone up a notch. I notice it with FPSE and N64oid. Great Job!

Battery drain seems normal, no problems with screen or keyboard lag. Everything is, as it should be. Thanks alot! :good:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] S4crifice:
I still use the original cabel and USB charger ... we will see tomorrow, battery will be down, now it is fully charged ..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dxaxn:
Hi, Im just sharing my today's story with you...

Yesterday I flashed last kernel 3th version. When I woke up my phone was stone death. Pull out battery and saw my xda app is missing. Get error in market - see pic. Well wipe cache, dalvik, play store and framework data but no luck. Obviously no backup at all.

So I reinstalled rom with older kernel but play store was missing. Found 3.5.19 on my sd card and installed xda. Quick backup with titanium. Then my play store was updated to 3.7.13 so I wiped and cleared data and installed xda again without problem. But I was wondering what will happen with new kernel and get that error again. This time I just restored xda with titanium, but I'm not able install xda from market.

I have no idea if that can be kernel related or some play store issue, but I'm sure that next time I will have backup. :)

Edit: I was kind of bored so tried whole process twice with same result. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I have backup finally so I will mess up my phone even more now. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NCU1980:
Hey Guys,

After many years on a WM TyTnII I decided to get a DZ off ebay and take a step into Android. Installed this ROM as my first ROM yesterday and am really enjoying it.

However I have noticed a huge increase in battery drain but have yet to try the latest kernel. Am I correct in thinking the update has resolved those issues? Also when I flash the new kernel I also flash the 64mb swap also right?

The second really annoying problem I have is that every time I access the Google Play store I get a popup asking me if I acknowledge the Terms and Conditions and no matter how many times I accept it keeps on appearing. Anyone know how I can get rid of recurring message?

I am a total noob with android so be gentle.

Thanks,

Monxster
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ernestnwanu:
Does anybody else's time freeze in the status bar? Very dangerous for me as I usually quickly glance at my status bar for the time..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
I am getting the problem with market as well, it only happens for bigger apps that automatically install to SD instead of internal storage. Also any app previously installed to SD is not accessible, so the asec access is down, give me 5 minutes to solve this :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Dragoth:
Totally forgot... i had the same problem. You have to unmount the SD-Card. Then it works!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
Removing SD card with sd-ext on it is a bad BAD idea! :D

I stress the UNMOUNT as in software

Let me recompile the kernel I fixed it already :p

Quick fix:

Seems like the module is used after all, to map the .android_secure folder on your SD card. Just don't try to fix this by removing card or modifying permissions, you can do more harm than good. (just like I did :D)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NCU1980:
@nik3r:

Thanks for all your work on this ROM mate so far it is awesome. To confirm the adb string you just posted:

That is the fix for the market asec access?

Re battery performance I read in another thread that upgrading to .19 radio without flashing the rcdata could impact performance so maybe people are flashing to .19 and not flashing the rcdata or doing efs?

Thanks,

Monxster
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
I use .19 radio without rcdata and everyng is peachy, I guess it depends on your location as well.

Yes that module was removed 2 days back because I didn't think it was useful to have it inside the kernel.. obviously wrong judgement :D

But now:

EliteKernel 120705 is released

Just installed star legends without problem. So this should take care of all the damage that my latest tweaks caused, right? :D

The full ROM release is still posponed for now, it requires me to nandroid backup and flash clean EliteMod to fix some of the problems and I don't have the time to do that right now. Maybe over the weekend.

BTW: I just got Smartass2 to be stable at 122MHz-1.4GHz, that is 200MHz improvement for me. If you really need horsepower but maintain great battery life, you can try to push it a little higher than you're used to ;)

EDIT2: edited all sd-ext related posts with additional info about the difference between Device Storage and SD Card during app installation to avoid confusion.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dxaxn:
Thank you for kernel fix. And I'm really sorry for long post. But I'm beginner and wasn't sure so posted more info that you need. :)

I can delete it if you like to keep thread clean...

Thanks again and good luck with your new project
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jivebunny:
Yes I can do that. Thought it was an app, but couldn't find out where it came from. Running 20120704. Had no issues on 20120627

Verstuurd van mijn HTC Vision met Tapatalk
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kueber:
After encountering some performance issues related to the latest kernel changes (probably?) I've gone back to 20120627 - will try the latest of the latest shortly, but all is well at the moment. :)

One little question:

Is there a way to prevent the homescreen shifting into landscape mode?

Most of the time I access it in vertical mode anyway, but when I've typed anything and press home while 'sliding' the keyboard back in all I see is some redrawage :D. Couldn't manage to find any setting to change that behaviour?

That apex ANR widget thing btw wasn't 'multicon' related - apex launcher seems to support only a certain amount of widgets before it's unable to restart.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
There's an option to prevent rotation in apex, but I think it didn't stop the redraws when exiting an app that was in landscape. It's not so bad, depends on quality on the widgets you use I suppose.

the .27 had problems with sound skipping, todays version is clearly better, faster and more "overclockable" without battery loss with the 2 bugs out of the way.

Sent from my Desire Z powered by EliteMod.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kueber:
Yup, it prevents shifting screen orientation but redraws anyway. It's not a big deal, I've just get to get used to switching into portrait mode before 'returning home' - if that's not prohibited by the current app.

Flashed your latest kernel release - can confirm a noticeable performance boost. Seems smoother and more responsive overall, 'browsermark' score is at ~95k (85-90 before) with 1,4ghz clock (stock browser) - don't know how much that says, but I try it now and then to confirm my perception of my phones performance. It seems to provide reliable numbers.

Very nice, keep up that great work! :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
I had this problem on two apps but wasn't sure if it was localized to just those apps or a problem with it in general. Had it happen on a 6MB app and 12MB app, but a 33MB and 4MB app installed fine.

updating to 20120705 and will report.

Edit: Can install said apps from the market now.

Also New benchmark with the latest kernel

With 704-3

fresh after reboot

with latest 705

fresh after reboot
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
what's the diff between -3 and 05 kernels?

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
-3 (04 , 04-2, 04-3) was the 04 kernel and it's following fixes/patches. 05 would be the same as 04-3 but with a fix to include a specific kernel module that was disabled by default that was having an impact on .android_secure file and in turn the installation of some market apps that required it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
120705 has fixed access to asec (basically all installed apps that are not on sd-ext or in device did not work with 120704-x).

kbeezie:

The apps should reappear fixed after you flash the latest kernel. In case you tried to "fix" them in any way manually (like I did before I isolated the problem), you probably broke them, so reinstall.

I broke one so hard I had to uninstall it before I was allowed to install it again, but then I tried really hard :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
try telling people not to flash this rom if they are scared of eMMC frying... cuz your an "update-aholic" :P i mean, i just flashed about 4 kernels and 3 ROMs from you in a week!

issues: cam is buggy (same old same old) and phone requires a battery removal after cam is used (lockup)

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Yea I didn't try to fix it manually but rather just left it alone when I saw the USB error.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kueber:
Little update on kernel testing - could it be that the 'audio skipping' while playing music screen-off is back?

Cracking and skipping and whateverthatis, especially at the beginning of a track - it was mildly there in .27, those "-x" kernels fixed it completely.

Now its back?

//edit:

Raised min cpu freq. back to 245 (must've forgotten that, max is 1401) - that fixed it, false alarm :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
What's that with camera problems? I am using both camera and camcorder on daily basis and never encountered any glitch since I fixed the overlapping shots like 3 weeks back.

Check the settings in your camera app, or better yet wipe the data of camera app and don't touch anything in settings :D

Took over 20 full-res shots yesterday and not a glitch.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
LoL You use your /data partition more than your SD card in most cases and much more activity on /data and /cache in the long run than you'd ever get from just flashing a rom. /system, /data, /cache are all a part of the emmc.

You can of course lessen this concern by using both DataSwap and SD-ext in combination (or omit dataswap if you don't need the performance but still using sd-ext). Without Sd-ext you would be hitting your internal memory even harder, meaning an unrooted stock phone in theory would have less of a lifetime than a rooted phone using sd-ext.

Same old same old, but course I never had to remove my battery when the camera died, it just simply 'died' if I tried something like smiley face (such as in video mode) or something other, but I can still just take a picture. Just took a picture today as well as scanned a barcode just fine. I think the only time I ever ran into problems with just pictures was if I tried to enable a special feature (i.e.: effects in video).

Far as video, I usually just get a force close on that.

Edit: just tried again, camera/video record just fine and I can change all the settings except effects (smiley, time lapse interval etc). And I'm not getting a FC switching between camera and camcorder.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
i was using barcode scanner today when my phone locked up. nothing responding, except the cam... the app isn't responding but i can see what the cam is seeing... so nothing is actually wrong with the cam

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
btw i still can't install my apps without sdext on this rom.

back on EliteCM7 without sdext, android installed everything in /data... now on ICS it isn't installing anything, i can see that after restoring the apps then rebooting and all the apps are gone...

i just need that space on sd... and btw, big apps (47MB, 36MB) got kinda 'corrupted' after flashing the 96MB data swap... i think those two apps got on /data, then they got 'eaten' by dataswap...

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Were you unmounting it or something? Is the sd-ext still present on the card?

Are all your apps combined larger than 1GB? Also DataSwap shouldn't be "eating" anything, it's just a swapfile under /data

If you simply disabled sd-ext without reinstalling everything that would get rid of everything under /data/app because /data/app is moved to /sd-ext/app and then on the main /data partition /data/app is actually empty and remounted to /sd-ext/app upon boot up (likewise app-private, secure etc).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
Elaborate a bit about that, the apps actually get installed but they disappear after reboot? It may be that the sd-ext mounting script falsely detects that sd-ext is present and the apps get pulled to /dev/null (not literally lol). May just be a bug in that script, I didn't test without sdcard for a loong time.. since the first ICS ROM actually.

It would be great to get the logcat for whole boot, I made the mounting to be quite verbose.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
i've never unmounted my sdcard... my apps disappeared after i rebooted and without sdext partition... on cm7, i didn't use the sdext, i didn't have it and everything was there

on ICS, no sdext, restoring apps, apps there, reboot, apps gone

on CM7, no sdext, restoring apps, apps there, reboot, apps still there...

with sdext apps are fine on ICS and CM7, but what i need is no problems with ICS and without sdext... i can't acheive that

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
Ok can you take a look if you have /data/apptrans/ folder and if so what is inside?

Yes, I see the problem.. I wonder why it took so long for someone to report this.. and I wonder WHY did I do it like that :D

Got it fixed, this was really trivial matter. But let me test it just in case I did that on purpose.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Though here's a situation to consider:

On CM7, did you have apps prior to formatting your SD card to sd-ext ?

I mean if you had an sd-ext to start with on ICS, and you rebooted into recovery, repartitioned the SD without sd-ext and then simply rebooted back into the rom, of course your apps and anything that was saved to sd-ext would be gone.

Unless of course it's supposed to 'copy' back all the apps from sd-ext to the internal? (which would make no sense in my opinion as we often use sd-ext sizes larger than our internal memory could handle)

Though why you can't install after-the-fact, I guess that's up to nik3r now.

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by the way on mine (using sd-ext) there is no apptrans folder.

and as far as why... maybe because lot of us enjoy using sd-ext :D lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
no /data/apptrans/ found

by saying rebooted i meant.... well... rebooted, nothing else

EDIT: yeah, enjoy your 2GB sdext, while i'm stuck at 768MB sdext and no data support because of this... i'm stuck at ~100 apps... that too little for me, and i can't expand sdext more than that... that's why, i need to remove sdext, reinstall all my apps back to the old /data way, and not make them dissapear

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
To Clarify you mean :

Phone On - Apps Exist, you can see them, run them etc, you already did not have an sd-ext.

Rebooted - Apps no longer exist, you can't see them or install apps

So did you never have sd-ext to begin with?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
yes, i never had sdext before having this issue... i solved it by making an sdext partition... but without it, all the apps disappeared when i rebooted.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
Ok cut the useless chatter it's fixed.. I think lol

EliteKernel 120706 released

.. now with support for guys and gals without sd-ext :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
hahahaha, MAN you're fast :D i won't be testing it, because of the lack of time i have (it's 12:00 am here) so i'll be testing it tomorrow, and report

btw, we should meet at an IRC channel...

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
I'm usually in #G2Root on Freenode (seems like the suitable place aside from #android-root)

but I think an IRC chat with nik3r would overwhelm him lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
getting on IRC using a mobile is a pain (i didn't see any decent IRC client yet on android)...

i'll be off now, kinda drunk cuz it's late, i'll be reporting tomorrow if the apps persist or not... if not, i'll be restoring my EliteCM7 backup... if yes, well i'll be lucky

EDIT: idea!:

1) backup /data while using sdext

2) remove sdext

3) reboot... reboot again

4) restore /data

will this restore the apps back to internal instead of doing nothing because there is no sdext? or will it just break and do nothing?

@Kbeezie, STOP reading my ROM reviews thread! :P

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
I'm usually on gamesurge, added #Elite-Force channel to my autojoin :p

Android IRC was quite agreeable. but it's paid
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] alexinc:
talking about the cam, the only thing i noticed is that panorama cam isnt that smooth like in other ics roms i tried... but thats a thing for little spare time i guess. ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
? I only visited it once.

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And if the content of /sd-ext/app and /sd-ext/app-private is larger than your /data partition?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
pretty sure it's not... i'm on 768MB sdext... so it can't be larger.

anyway, i won't lose anything by trying, if it doesn't work, i'll restore using titanium backup

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Well it could... considering without the content of /data/app takes up around 300-400MB, so trying to push back over nearly 768MB of apps back onto that with a 1GB /data could be problematic.

Just saying an automated method may not be feasible, and that if you go the sd-ext plan on sticking with it unless you plan on doing a full wipe and reinstall.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
Your best bet to remove sd-ext would be like this:

1) with sd-ext on copy everything in /data/app to /data/app-ext

adb shell
mkdir /data/app-ext
cp -fR /data/app/* /data/app-ext/
exit
adb reboot recovery

2) reboot to recovery

3) Delete EXT partition

4) in mounts select to mount /data

5) run adb and move everything to the right place

adb shell
mv -fR /data/app-ext/* /data/app/
reboot

6) your system should boot up and Android should be non the wiser, your app settings should be intact as if nothing happened.

No guarantees though, titanium backup is the alternative. Everything in /sd-ext/app must fit into /data partition free space. Prefferably with 100MB left or you'll get sync issues.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rozza C:
This is probably just me. But is anyone having issues with the xda app?

It disappeared one day and when I try to download from the market, it says it can't install to external storage or sd card...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
-.-

Download the latest kernel.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rozza C:
Yeah, sorry.

I somehow skipped over that part and then found it after I posted my very irrelevant question. -_-

My apologies for wasting your time...

All is right with the world. You can ignore me now.

Sent from the shadows in which he dwells...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NCU1980:
Still getting Google Play asking me to accept the terms every time I launch the app even after installing the latest kernel. Any suggestions?

Battery has greatly improved with the latest update.

Also, I would like to remove the ICS browser in favour of Chrome or Dolphin. What APK is the browser? Also is it safe to remove?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
Rozza C:

No prob I actually thought it was funny after 2 pages of posts dealing with that exact problem ;)

NCU1980:

Try to wipe data of the Google Play app, may be an update glitch. If it doesn't help try to fix permissions from recovery.

I would not recommend removing the default browser. It's in /system so takes up no space and there are some websites that will not function properly unless you use the stock browser so that the phone model can be recognized properly. Just select the other browser as default, don't ask for problems :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Yea I noticed that in the past, most of the time it's for android tools type of stuff like linking to an apk etc.

Far as browsers go, what made you pick Opera Mobile over say Opera Mini, Firefox, Chrome, etc.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nik3r:
Really a personal choice, what I like:

- ability to compress pages with opera turbo when I'm out of FUP (but I don't do that often, it's slow)

- great tweakability comparable to PC (see opera:config)

- 100% detection-proof agent spoofing, I like to surf web as it was meant for PCs

- very fast loading of full desktop-version pages, other browsers didn't come close unless they were using phone-optimized versions. Tested on deviantart.com - the full version.

- very smooth scrolling for reading (again I'm talking about desktop versions of pages)

- ability to use rules-based ad-blocking

What I don't like:

- first startup time, or when it gets killed

- sometimes leaves open tabs between sessions for no apparent reason

- some pages with very aggressive loops in scripts can lag the scrolling, there is no throttle for loops in javascript apparently

- flash can act up, but that's flash and desktop versions for you

Don't take me wrong I'm no Opera fanboy, I use my heavily tweaked firefox on desktop and never liked Opera. But on android it is really the best choice if mobile web just won't cut it for you :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
can't i just copy paste them with root explorer? or use terminal emulator?

but then again, i'll have to be using adb while i'm in the recovery :mad: i hate plugging my phone to my pc... i prefer wireless

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Terminal Emulator yes.

Most anything else outside of shell commands probably not (i.e.: gota retain file permissions/ownership).

PS: You don't have to plug the phone in you can turn on ADB over network via the development menu.