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[Galaxy S III General] thebobp:
I don't see s-voice to be worth it tbh: if they disable it, then so what? Still waiting for star trek's computer to come out.

The other patent, on the other hand, is ridiculous. (Well, both are, but that one actually matters.)
[Galaxy S III General] dhendy91:
I know this is how business works now, but i just find it all kind of pathetic :(
[Galaxy S III General] birdfoot:
Well, it's not hard to see A*****d being a strong contender to A***e since N1 came out.

What if:

In order to impede its progress, A***e probably thought that claiming A*****d copying from i*S would devastate the A*****d's reputation and confuse the masses. But since it had (apparently) failed and Steve has already sworn to destroy it with every penny in A***e's piggy bank, they'd just have to stick with it for better or worse.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
I believe the court found HTC infringing on the interface, rather than the functionality of data-tapping, so all Samsung has to do is create a pop-up menu that allows the user to choose from an assortment of applications which she wants to use after clicking on an e-mail address or phone number. HTC already did it and got a stamp of approval from the ITC, so I don't see why Apple would even bother to do it with Samsung. I know they filed another complaint, but I honestly hope that the ITC will see that this is a feature that is present in all operating systems today and not something that Apple invented. This feature isn't even currently present on the iPhone.
[Galaxy S III General] Gadgetz:
Guus, I cant stand Apple as much as the rest of you but its not about who used a technology first its about Apple owning the patent to said technology and feeling as if its being infringed upon. So please stop with the "well * did it frst" comments, please.

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[Galaxy S III General] eksasol:
Maps on iOS was crippled anyway. It didn't have the Labs features like precahce like with Android, and no Navigation if I'm correct.
[Galaxy S III General] z0phi3l:
The problem is that Apple like many other patent trolls are abusing the system since it's this retarded "first to file" when it should be "first to innovate". Once that's fixed Apple and other patent trolls will go out of business

And yes who did it first does matter once it goes to Court to get said patent invalidated, that's why Apple does all it can to delay the actual court dates while still suing left and right
[Galaxy S III General] g2uzer:
So any news if the s3 is going to be delayed in the USA yet? I sure hope not! lol
[Galaxy S III General] Gadgetz:
The hearing is today at 1:30 pacific time so I guess we'll hear something after that.

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[Galaxy S III General] g2uzer:
thanks for the info,
[Galaxy S III General] archtech3d:
So this guy named Dan Levine, a legal reporter for Reuters is at the courthouse with the Apple/Samsung case today. I found his tweet on Florian Mueller's (with Fosspatents - guy who wrote the story about the case to begin with) Twitter feed.

Dan: "Signed on at Apple/Samsung hearing, on Apple bid to shut down U.S. sales of Galaxy phones. Lots of Google lawyers here"

"I'll bet every Samsung atty can tell the diff btwn an iPhone and Galaxy from 100 yards, after the last hearing with Judge Koh"

https://twitter.com/#!/FedcourtJunkie

This might give us first word if the GS3 is delayed... following him on Twitter.

Latest: "Apple attorney says may file for temporary restraining order to stop U.S. launch of Samsung Galaxy S III phone"
[Galaxy S III General] emk2z:
I respectfully disagree, i once read a couple of lawyers figured that no one claimed a patent for common mp3 player. So they Decided they could get one and sue everyone else. I am not sure if it is true, but i believe no one can trust lady justice If such things are allowed. People should not nor be allowed to abuse copyright or patent laws.
[Galaxy S III General] kulzboy:
lol this is epic we got google on our side this time
[Galaxy S III General] sonarchist:
..........not looking good for Apple........will be difficult to block sales of SGSIII before release date of June 21:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...S&feedName=cyclicalConsumerGoodsSector&rpc=43

.......but, you never know, it IS Silicon Valley, you know?
[Galaxy S III General] mlin:
This mess isn't Apple's fault, its the fault of the US courts. The fact that some of these patents were even secured is ridiculous.

What does come back to Apple is their fear of competition and the consequences this has on their business strategy.
[Galaxy S III General] kulzboy:
not good a TRO might delay the launch

or am I wrong?
[Galaxy S III General] sonarchist:
......all depends how legitimate the reference to Judge Koh IS....... (reuters seems to be saying --quote of Judge Koh implied-- a TemporaryRestrainingOrder will be hard to obtain before launch date.)

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[Galaxy S III General] kulzboy:
what if it gets banned post-launch like the AT&t HOX?
[Galaxy S III General] kulzboy:
mod please delete
[Galaxy S III General] kulzboy:
oops delete this one too
[Galaxy S III General] Vibrant03:
gosh i hate apple so much just reading the word apple makes my skin crawl..

a pathetic company incapable of manufacturing anything or inventing anything and yet they keep relying on another company they keep suing to supply them the components to build their products...

issue with the galaxy nexus? the slide to unlock? was that it? tap to dial? these are intellectual properties? more like self-entitlement and superiority complex issues..

ughh..
[Galaxy S III General] g2uzer:
For reals!
[Galaxy S III General] mlin:
Then sales will tempoararily cease
[Galaxy S III General] mrvirginia:
this seems possible. that's why i'm looking to get mine ordered asap.
[Galaxy S III General] Gadgetz:
Cool story bro

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[Galaxy S III General] thebobp:
Correct.
[Galaxy S III General] kickassdave:
Apple also make my skin crawl. They are a leech in the business world. I find their absolutely pathetic need to patent the most ridiculous things and then try and sue everyone utterly repulsive.

They don't want competition and they don't like competition. Android is getting better and better. The phones are very quickly advancing and Apple and their iPhone is starting to lag behind. They can release a flippin horse dung with a micro chip in it and call it iDung and people will buy it. What scares Apple is that their iSheep are suddenly evolving and not all looking through 'i' tinted glasses anymore.

Welcome to the Android Revolution Apple.... It's here to stay.
[Galaxy S III General] jebuchanan:
Interesting how Apple is suing the very company that also supplies their screens and chips.
[Galaxy S III General] Gadgetz:
You'd think that would be quite the conflict of interest. :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] hansonator:
From what I have read before, it has soured their relationship but Samsung won't cut off their biggest customer. I think someone a few pages back was right, they do things just to piss apple off cause apple would have to make even ****tier devices without Samsung chips inside.
[Galaxy S III General] g2uzer:
Any word if they doing to delay the launch date or not ?
[Galaxy S III General] Hagis2k:
This was one of the reasons why i changed from apple to samsung i had enough of their philosophy apple rot in hell, but with mr jobs dead i think we will see the effects sooner or later.

And forget that samsung just can cancel their orders to apple, then they will get sued for contract violation.
[Galaxy S III General] krabman:
lol I despise Apple and have little regard for the kool-aid drinkers that buy their products but in fairness the patent wars are being fully pursued in every possible way by all the larger tech outfits that have the means to play the game. The real problem lies with US patent law which should not be allowing such broad patents or the patenting of what amounts to conventional wisdom rather than any technical device or idea.
[Galaxy S III General] Gadgetz:
That news isnt gonna break and not be posted here

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[Galaxy S III General] MUFC17JW:
you're killing me Smalls
[Galaxy S III General] g2uzer:
just wondering if any one knew what happened at court yesterday, if it's leaning towards delay or not

;), but yea I know that it's going to be posted here
[Galaxy S III General] forelli:
One day Apple will patent "the action of pressing an area of a touchscreen"...

f.
[Galaxy S III General] clninja:
Ffs apple has a patent on "rounded corners on a smartphone" how did that patent ever get handed out? Apple is garbage. What a despicable company. If android doesn't kill apple.. their patent hungry, anti-competition disgusting attitude and ways of business will kill themselves. I never have liked iphones, but since this whole "scam" has started with the patent wars I sold my ipod and refuse to ever buy another apple product.
[Galaxy S III General] Bowsa2511:
How does one go about revoking these bogus patents, rounded corners!? Seriously?
[Galaxy S III General] mrvirginia:
lol they just got a patent for the wedge design on their macbooks. evidence that our patent system it craptastic. now no one can make a laptop with a wedge design. how silly does that sound? gah
[Galaxy S III General] radeonxt:
way back early may, i too was taken aback by svoice's very identical interface to siri's.

i mean jeez hasn't samsung ever learned its lesson?

at first i think the s2 design clearly was trying to ride on the fruit phone's success.

but this time around i don't think samsung is that stupid to do the same mistake over again as if they themselves didn't notice their s-voice looks the same with siri.

i think it's a gamble, they're purposely doing it on that svoice so that when the fruit sues they're going to look like the bad guy who wants to monopolize sales by threatening to stop competition from selling their own phones. as i've said it's a gamble, but so far from every forums and sites i went many current and previous fruit phone owners are disgusted at what the fruit is doing.

samsung will have to play this kind of game well or else it will backfire.
[Galaxy S III General] Meltus:
I wish Apple would stop patenting things they don't own or didn't invent... like pretty much everything they've ever patented.
[Galaxy S III General] mlin:
I believe they have a patent for something like "...making a gesture on a touch screen to unlock a device..."
[Galaxy S III General] Isadora:
They're pretty much all suing each other for anything they can. .. but at least now it looks like the judges have had enough too http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57449607-37/even-judges-are-fed-up-with-patent-lawsuits/

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[Galaxy S III General] mrvirginia:
yeah, sliding to unlock is one of their patents... just fail.
[Galaxy S III General] simollie:
Apple is abusing the system. as consumer, what we can do about that is to vote with our money, i.e., not buying Apple product.

However, there's a more fundamental problem with the patent system. as citizen, what we can do about that is to spread the word, talk to your congressman, educate people about how it's broken and how it's hurting the industry and consumers.
[Galaxy S III General] CapsLockKey:
...and wasting our tax dollars while clogging up the already congested legal system some more.
[Galaxy S III General] corrsea:
The real irony is that Apple stole their very name from the Beatles who had trademarked the Apple lable. They were sued for this and eventually came to an agreement that allowed them to use the name so long as they never became involved on the music industry. A couple of years later along came the iPod and iTunes.

Basically they have been backstabbing Bastards since day one.
[Galaxy S III General] Havok316uk:
I can stand apple either. I was giving a 4S as a work mobile its rotting away in my draw after a week of playing. Such a pile of crap. Never liked apple such an over hyped company.

Well Im going to patent "breathing" and sue the world. So I win :)
[Galaxy S III General] EnderXXI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent

:D
[Galaxy S III General] RMXO:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/06/ftc-tells-itc-that-banning-iphones-xboxes-a-bad-idea/

you guys should read that for a good laugh
[Galaxy S III General] archtech3d:
BAHAHAHA! Seriously, all this is getting ridiculous, and the FTC knows it! :D
[Galaxy S III General] Isadora:
Talking about ridiculous... Look at the graphic in that article (it's from August 2011 but gives a good idea)

http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/?s=Mobile+patent+suits

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[Galaxy S III General] Quinny899:
Anyone remember that the evil fruit company patented face unlock JUST AFTER ICS having it was announced?
[Galaxy S III General] nadram:
Not sure why we're venting at Apple here. The problem is much bigger than that. I blame mostly the flawed patent systems in the USA mainly, then china then the european union. If they hadn't been granting ridiculous patents left and right on things that have been around for ages and that seem to be basic these days this would not be happening.

Is it really innovating to design a telephone that is rectangular with slightly curved corners?

I was honestly hoping that the obama patent reform would have done something to fix that. Specifically since the battle between samsung and apple had already begun. Unfortunately the reform was nowhere near what it should have been. Now with oracle motorola htc microsoft samsung apple and more , all suing each other, things look grim

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[Galaxy S III General] RMXO:
I use to love Apple as the underdog but hate it now due to its strong arm tactics. They put the Evil Empire of the old to shame & some nowadays..........

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True, US Patent is to blame. Have you seen Apple's new patent of the wedge laptop?

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/06/08/1738257/apple-granted-broad-patent-on-wedge-shaped-laptops

F R A K U US Patent Office & Apple
[Galaxy S III General] nicholaaaas:
I think most people here know that

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Or maybe Paul McCartney can sue? He had a company called Apple in the late 60's
[Galaxy S III General] BinaryXeroMedia:
Peeps there is no need to worry. The voice thing (siri) has been around since before iPhone come out. I use it on my pc all the time. And this data thing I dont know about that. If apple sue Sammy over Samsung S whatever its called they need to sue the creators of Alice. Everyone know who Alice is. The automatic listner and can also do the same as siri once it learns who you are and what you tell it to do. Thats been around since I was 10 13yrs ago. Apple have nothing. There losing and this is all they have left. The only way they can win now is if android is shutdown. (Motorola why havent you stepped in yet? We need you to be the android saviuors now. Use all your patents against ios now. You can shut them down) soz but they could :p

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[Galaxy S III General] chconser:
Wanna know what the difference between the iPhone & a trampoline is?....

....you take your shoes off before you jump on the trampoline. :D:D:D

Jk, jk. To each his/her own. We know the truth. ;)

But in all seriousness, Apple's latest string of lawsuits is a bunch of horsecrap. :thumbdown:
[Galaxy S III General] Vibrant03:
^ umm because it's glass , so if anyone jumps on the bandwagon , they'd need to keep their shoes on?

is that it?

LOL , call me slow , i'm just trying to figure it out.. lol
[Galaxy S III General] thelestat:
You know svoice was out long before siri? Samsung just renamed it this time round to SVoice from voice commands as it was before . Siri copied Voice Commands if anything.

Samsung are pushing it with the name. But tbh they have been using the S infront of their other aps for a while as well.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
if you can't innovate, you do whatever you can to stifle the competition.....
[Galaxy S III General] Quinny899:
Dis gonna b good

(Damn it, you answered just as I quoted)
[Galaxy S III General] buachaille:
I really really really

really really really

really really really really really really

HATE APPLE :banghead:
[Galaxy S III General] chconser:
Delete. Duplicate post.
[Galaxy S III General] Quinny899:
There was no need for that, no-one was confused by it
[Galaxy S III General] chconser:
LOL, I'll try to help. You take your shoes OFF before you jump on a trampoline, but you leave them ON when you jump on the iPhone. Get it? :D ;)
[Galaxy S III General] chconser:
Sorry, meant to quote the guy a couple posts above yours. :p
[Galaxy S III General] chconser:
LOL :D
[Galaxy S III General] taylortr:
I'll just leave this here.

http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/apple-and-samsung-agree-on-tuesday-and.html?m=1
[Galaxy S III General] radeonxt:
okay that's a given.

well then i think they really are daring the fruit.
[Galaxy S III General] Isadora:
And it was in good old WinMo ages ago too... Ah the good old days when they all (more or less) just got on with stuff rather than spend all that time and money suing each other over just about everything. HP even managed to get their legal team ready to start proceedings against a company *they* had appointed to sort out TouchPad refunds until they realised that actually it probably wouldn't be too clever :rolleyes:

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[Galaxy S III General] sonarchist:
Adjudge for yourself, but I'm imagining that anything can happen between now + release date............still, I somehow see a great opportunity on the part of samsung to leverage out a hard core victory from this battle, as the real war commences.

http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/apple-and-samsung-agree-on-tuesday-and.html?m=1

*@taylortr just relinking ......thnx for this*

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[Galaxy S III General] Artimus009:
This is looking more and more like we might get screwed by this mess.
[Galaxy S III General] kulzboy:
that was a good speech sir! I agree with you about brainwashed isheeps. Heck, even my parents call what ever smartphone they see an iPhone because they don't know what a smartphone is
[Galaxy S III General] Gadgetz:
Oh boy

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/****-just-got-real.jpg
[Galaxy S III General] Kailkti:
The only piece I don't agree with is that iOS is right in making the ui simple. The purpose of machinery is to simplify processes. And iOS does this better than all. This is even another characteristic of a good software product, usability. Such that the ui must be easy to use for the user. However I think it is premature of you to say that it dumbs down its users. I could be wrong however as I don't interact with much iOS users.

$1 gets you a reply
[Galaxy S III General] g2uzer:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-litigation-litany-round-5-apple-and-samsung-agree-to-disagree-by-june-12-r864

just a little update from today
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
wonder if anything learned here will be able to be leveraged in the Samsung case

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/06/08/us-apple-google-trial-idINBRE85700X20120608
[Galaxy S III General] Reckless187:
All, I can say is Steve Jobs would be proud that his legacy continues. E.G, if the opposition seems to competitive to handle, accuse em of stealing ideas and sue sue sue.
[Galaxy S III General] buachaille:
I agree with every word. Apple are the 3rd Reich of technology. **** em :what:
[Galaxy S III General] nicholaaaas:
That schedule suggests that all material on Samsung's part won't be turned over until Thursday. Then Apple has to to argue what that material means that takes us at least into Friday. I wouldn't expect a ruling to come until at least Monday the 18th, when all the pre-sale phone are already on Fed-Ex trucks.

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how do you figure?

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If you are going to say that apple doesn't make good products you're lying. Come on now

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That's what he meant by "going thermonuclear"
[Galaxy S III General] Vibrant03:
We can't deny though that Apple always have the best ideas and samsung seem to follow the footprints that apple leave behind... It's not really copying, it's competing.. As long as it's not a complete rip-off then it should be fine.. Ideas could be the same while the final product or look are different, just like the first ipod, wasn't that a product similar to the sony Walkman?

I wish google would make a program like itunes for Android.. They won't make one because of fear of lawsuits?

The first galaxy s' design was undeniably derived from the iPhone, but not a knock-off honestly .. samsung probably intentionally wanted to make an iphone-like device for Android because it was a very popular phone and they didn't think the galaxy s lines were gonna be too successful and would provoke lawsuits.. Now the gs3 has some softwares that are similar to those in the iPhone, lol, all it needs is an itunes-like program.. Oh maybe kies? I don't think it's copying, the idea that apple is the only one entitled to have such a program or softwares is just wrong..
[Galaxy S III General] thebobp:
When "simple" also means you have to do everything manually (rearrange your bloody apps list, look for notifications) and that you have no alternative options (keyboards, launchers), your conclusion simply doesn't follow. Here, simplicity becomes detrimental to usability.

It's not just a one-dimensional analysis, with "more simplicity = better!!!!!1". Pocket calculators are very simple but that doesn't make them very powerful.
[Galaxy S III General] americasteam:
HE*# NO!!!!
[Galaxy S III General] mlin:
iOS simplifies in the sense that all it is, is a task launcher. After usin the iPhone for a little while I feel that some operations take more steps and are les intuitive then the same task on an android phone. As far as just using an app, it's fine but as soon as the user wants to change a setting, any setting, the process becomes an uneccesary production. In many ways the OS is kinda stupid. Take for instance this scenario: I received a text from my wife earlier, when I unlocked the phone it went straight to messages (not where I wante to be) so when I hit the home button I wa taken back to the lock screen. Upon unlocking again I reaches the home screen. To bypass going straight to messages, you must turn the screen off then on then unlock. Btw, I'm using it because I returned my EVO and am waiting for my sgs3

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Android is a better, smarter, more innovative OS. The things that make Samsung great are not the features that "copy" iOS but rather their ability to have the software access the hardware more than any android phone I've used. I think most of Apples complaints are moot; it's not s-voice, data tapping, spell correction, or any resemblance to the iPhone that makes the galaxy such a high selling series- its android, the hardware and everything else.
[Galaxy S III General] Vibrant03:
why not hmm? i would like that for better video, music, apps, books, etc. management.. no? i think that's the only thing missing with android..

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it's true.. we didn't become samsung fans because the galaxy s series look like an iphone..but because of android and the hardware, especially samsung's specs and hardware..

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apple's soc a4 , a5, a5x were all designed by intrinsity.. intrisity a company that samsung collaborated with to make the hummingbird /exynos until apple bought intrinsity, both Soc's are similar..now the bought company design apple's soc which still uses samsung's processor (45nm,32nm)..