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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
I have updated the OP to reflect the fact that I have bought a new phone thanks in part to the XDA community :)

If a mod could, I would like to have the thread locked at this time. I would feel extremely guilty if any more donations are sent to me since my phone has already been replaced.

If you're not aware of the "end" to this story, please read the updated portion of the OP.

Thank you all so much.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] killyouridols:
You guys are trully remarkable. If anyone has lost faith In XDA in recent times, this is reference point to how we are STILL a community.

Awesome work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
Cerberus is good but once you flash another rom it vanishes completely an your phone will never be heard of again.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KennyG123:
I want to thank the community for coming together to help this poor soul and his wife out.

You guys make me proud to be part of this community!

I wish this could be stickied somewhere where everyone could read it but alas most don't read the sticky section.

As per the OP's request it is locked.

Thanks all!

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
I actually have a lot of his information, as he was stupid enough to fill out a job application. I've given all of that to the cops. I work late after my boss leaves, so I called and let him know. I already plan to call tomorrow up to the temp agency where he was pulled from and demanding they reimburse me for what he stole.

If that doesn't go well (I'll do this before I go to work) I'm calling the district general manager and asking if they'll reimburse me since (as one of you have said) I'm not suppose to carry any electronics onto the dock area where I work and they have been telling us they would replace the lockers for the past 2 years and have not installed any still (old ones got broken into a while back).

For one, no place to store my phone and it was stolen and two it was stolen by a temp worker they hired.

I'm hoping something works out for me. Already checked craigslist to see if he posted it but nothing. Tried searching him on pipl and there is NOTHING on him (which scares me that maybe he gave false information to the temp agency). Just hope it works out. Worst part is losing all the pictures of my son..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] exzacklyright:
I use this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5ndG1lZGlhLnNlZWtkcm9pZCJd
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
This is advice for you and anyone else who turn off GPS, its a complete waste and saves no battery. The GPS is only using power when you see the icon in the top bar. And that won't ever happen unless you go into an app such as maps.

So just leave GPS on always. There's no advantage to turning it off manually. And then you 2ouldnt have this situation too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deaffob:
I always looked at cellphone theft as same as cash theft, you can't really get it back.

A lot of people here are suggesting on how to track the phone but even if the owner finds out where it is roughly and kind of have an idea who stole the phone, the thief doesn't have to comply to any search and can say no to you or the cop without the warrant.

What would you do if that temp worker says that he didn't do it and he is not going to let you search him then just walks away? They can do the same to the cops too because legally the cops can't search them without an apparent reason or warrant. Cops get thousands of cellphone theft reports daily in populated area and it's very likely that they'll just do nothing.

Sorry it's a bad situation but I've heard similar stories many many times from young kids who steal cellphones and sell them on Craigslist.

The bottom line is even if you know where the phone is and know who stole it, you can't do anything about it unless you have everything on video.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Yeah, at least put the thief thru that just for the inconvenience, or make him sweat or give him the hassle. You never know some people get intimidated by cops and would confess or something.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] annie42:
Good luck finding your phone mate, I know the feeling
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
Cerberus doesn't work if they flash a new rom on your phone, that's the only way you can remove Cerberus from phone if its stolen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
Not true you can be searched at random just on suspicion, since when do police need a warrant or permission to search your car or baggage for instance if they think you have drugs, illegal firearms or stolen goods ect.Warrant doesn't apply to public places just get the police to search him out in public.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deaffob:
In australia, cops can search anybody for suspicion? In america, cops can't search you even if they think you have guns, drugs, stolen good, etc unless they have evidence(police dogs or scanner).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
Anywhere in public like a car or on the street , they will just wait for you to leave the house then grab you without needing a warrant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imnuts:
Ummm, yes they can, as long as there is probable cause. You get pulled over and the police officer things you are DUI, they can search you and your car for drugs and alcohol without a warrant. Evidence in this case would be one other person there according to the OP, phone was there when he left and gone when he was back. Only one other person was there. Odds are though, he won't be dumb enough to bring the phone back with him, so having the guy searched is going to be pointless at this point, and good luck trying to get someone to search the person's house over a lost phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] m.is.for.michael:
Sorry to hear about your situation. :(

Not that it helps you much at this stage, but I use avast on my phone. It is free, can survive a factory reset wipe (though obviously not flashing a new rom), and can turn on the GPS on receipt of a text message as well as sending you texts with a link to a map of where the phone is.

I'd be putting the hard word on your employers to replace the phone. Aside from the fact that it's the right thing for them to do (given they mandate you leave the phone but don't provide anywhere for you to leave it), it will be covered by their insurance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dallastx:
Come on im not trolling but anything that's stolen what would you do? As im sure the above feeds had told you....download a app from market place to your phone "thats rooted hopefully for full features" .

That's like me saying someone stole my laptop what do i do? There's no art to retrieving stolen merchandise unless you are "badass". Knocking on someones door that may be 200 pounds more then you with a criminal back ground sometimes is better off just buying a new phone. Most police depts are not going to raid/search warrant for your phone that cost lest then a search warrant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jpg71:
Best bet, as I said already, is to go through your company - let them deal with it - worse case nothing is recovered and insurance covers your reimbursement. I doubt they'll pull the temp in, as they really have no evidence against him.

Worst case is their insurance won't cover you and you're at a total loss. Then I suggest you just call the temp and tell him this:

;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
Leaving a phone in a unsecure location in a workplace was kinda stupid, you left yourself wide open for something like that to happen an your work may just say its your fault an stupidity that it got stolen an be assholes about the whole thing.I would have kept the phone either locked in my car at work or ignored their advice an carried it on me regardless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dallastx:
lol what????? Your idea on Temps. Did you know most companies are going Temp to Temp. Suppose to be Temp to Hire, but yea....Its Corporate America. It is cheaper on the employer especially if they see you are smarter then the average "Joe the Plummer"... Joe may leave next week after they already spent $1000's on security clearances, training, up front benefits, new furniture for his officem up front bonus and etc.... Most engineers, web devs and a host of jobs that pay $50-$250 an hr are temp! Most companies cant afford to keep the smartest people. Now if you are a Temp at McDonald's then yea....there is something wrong there. But your idea of a Temp is like early 1990's.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
I was going to say this some people obviously don't follow the government and laws.... Lol you can thank bush for those dumb laws while in some cases they are good others not so much.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigpapax:
I had my last phone (fascinate) stolen twice.

First time I used where's my droid, and tracked it to a house. I knocked on the door, no answer. I then set off the alarm and I could hear it, so I kicked the door in and retrieved it. The guy then came to where it was stolen and apologized for his 6 year old taking it. Ha ends up (I knew him). I then called the police (just for fun to see what I should have done) they said regardless whether you know where it is or not, if it is gone, it is GONE. They said it isn't worth ones life to retrieve it, and said first thing to do is shut off service. When I said then I won't know where it is, the police said that that is best for everyone. I told him he wasn't on the same planet as I was, and he said he WAS with me but not worth what could have happened. He did say that you DO have the right to retrieve your property.

Second time again using where's my droid, I tracked it to a guy holding MY PHONE trying to unlock it. The look on his face when I opened his car door and told him if he moved his life would end: PRICELESS. I called the police and filed that report. The police then stopped him and he said he found it laying in the dirt outside the door of my business and was just trying to find the rightful owner, and the police BELIEVED IT and dropped the 3rd degree theft charges.

My advice: if you are a candy ass or have it anywhere in your family tree, and are NOT willing or prepared to retrieve the phone yourself, I suggest you IMMEDIATELY uninstall any tracking software and call it a day. THE POLICE CANT AND WONT HELP YOU.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
I hope you are not serious about it.

Because OP don't really have anything on the Temp and if the Temp call the cops..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
Dude that totally blew over your head. That quote is from the movie "Taken" with Liam Neeson.

I laughed when I read it though :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Insert king of the hill moment here.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
Hey no need to get upset, and no I'm not a temp, i used to work on big construction sites, as a electrician. We would use temp agencies to get guys fire the digging and other tasks wee did but want to waste us high paid guys to do.

so sorry i mean it must have really upset you, i mean you know everything about agencies, and the guys i used last month were not from a temp agency. I thought they were cause that's what i called into
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Big Cam:
Me too, to my understanding it does not ad any significant battery drain, but even if it did. Better safe than sorry.

I hope you get it back.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dru858:
"...good luck." ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
Correcting some misconceptions about evidentiary rules.

To begin, an officer cannot search your car merely if he thinks you're DUI. The officer must first meet the standard of probable cause for a warrantless arrest and then the search is incidental (after) to the arrest if there exists good reason for it- such as a clearly articulable belief that further evidence related to that specific arrest will be obtained or an inventory if the vehicle is to be impounded. Basing a search "on a hunch" is a quick easy for an officer to be unemployed and a defendant in a cut and dry civil suit.

Likewise, a warrantless search for the phone in the quoted scenario is illegal and would result in a hefty payday for the temp and no jail time even if the phone is found on his person.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deaffob:
If you are talking about America, you are dead wrong. Officers cannot search you if they 'think' or 'suspect' that you are DUI. They have to have evidence such as the detector saying that your alcohol level is above the limit.

Perfect example is in NYC. When an officer asks you to be searched before you get to ride on a subway, you can say no, but you can't ride the train because it's their property and they have right to not granting you the access.

If a cop thinks you are illegal drug dealer and pulls you over and asks you to open the door and to be searched, you can say no but he can hold you until his police dog comes and confirms that you have some stuff on you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HemRoyd:
In Maine, a Game Warden has power above all other law enforcement. They can enter and search your home or vehicle at any time and without a warrant if they suspect a game or firearms violation - which can be almost under any circumstance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
A game warden is a federal cop basically. Applies to all states.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
Update to this results in a total loss to me.

Temp agency said its not their responsibility to supervise him and they're not responsible for my phone being stolen.

Corporate at work said it's personal property and it's a civil matter, they won't cover it.

Basically, complete loss for me.

My only chance is if he's stupid enough to pawn it, since I reported the IMEI to the police and all pawn shops are required to run a stolen phone check through their database.

On a side note, right when I was going to leave work I picked up the work line to call my wife and let her know I was headed home when a guy was on the other end when I started dialing. It ended up being the temp guy, who was calling to talk to me. He told me the temp agency went to the job site he was on and talked with him and told him I filed a police report on him. He insisted for a good 10 minutes that he did not take the phone and how he understands how I'd assume he did it under the circumstances but continued to insist he did not take it.

Eh, huge loss for me. Here's to hoping he pawns it....

Also, is there a way to black list an IMEI on a GSM or can that ONLY be done if you're on a CDMA phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I think gsm carriers are fixing to do this. Will believe it when i see it. Call your carrier and ask for info is all i have to offer.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Ha.. I rarely watch movies, so i won't know these kind of things:p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KennyG123:
This story really touched me, hard working man, gift from the wife, law enforcement and employer no help. So I suggested to the OP to add a paypal account to his XDA profile so the donate link would show up. If you like to, help. If not please do not flame.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for you donation Kenny, it really means a lot to me.

I am in no way begging or demanding donations from anyone. As I said to Kenny via pm, we both share a quality that we don't like to ask for help when it is needed and we'd rather solve the problem by ourselves.

I am, however, very grateful to anyone who does decide to do so as Kenny did. Thank you again, so much.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] txyaloo:
Federal game wardens, yes... State game wardens, no.

Federal cop = arrest powers in any US territory. Last I checked, state game wardens power doesn't extend beyond their state.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] broad_st_bully:
personally I would use the app to track the device & find out where this temp lives (hopefully the phone is in his pocket), go to his house and split his face open for him...leave a nice big scar that never goes away...then, every time he looks in the mirror he'll be reminded what happened last time he stole something...and that will almost guarantee he never steals anything from you or anyone again...

DAMN I hate scumbags!!:mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Product F(RED):
Not true. It's called reasonable suspicion; as an officer, you can frisk someone if you believe they're carrying a weapon or if you believe they're going to or have been involved in a crime (excludes carrying drugs). Thing is, any cop can say, "I thought he might have had a gun."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_suspicion
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albsat:
Find a friend that works as a cop. Go and check this guy and catch im in a dark corner. Beat him and tell to return the phone or he will see hell. It might work.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wilsonlam97:
Good luck to you OP. This thread was an interesting read.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bat0nas:
So what's the best?

Cerberus anti theft?

How that thing work if if the phone was wiped? App stays in sd card?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
I'm going to plant plastic explosives in my phone. Make a dimple program on windows that has a big red "that was easy button"....BOOM. That's what you get for stealing my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rusty!:
Whilst it's a shame your phone was stolen, going all out against the temp worker without a single shred of evidence is pretty poor.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
If the theif smart enough an flashes a different rom, cerberus app becomes useless as it removes it, check cerberus description in play store to see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
Well when you factor in that I've worked there for 2 years, I leave my phone generally on a table in the wide open to everyone every day and its never touched, then temp worker comes in, my phone is in a drawer nobody uses but me, phone was there at 4pm when I got water and text my wife, nobody was in the office besides the old lady secretary from 4-5:30, he leaves at 5:15, I come in at 5:30 for water again and its gone...its common sense where the phone went.

Especially when the guy had been talking to me earlier in the week about how he was about to get evicted, his license had just been suspended and would cost him $250 to clear it up and he was going through all kinds of financial struggles since losing his job.

When he called yesterday I even told him, I know you're not a bad person and you're going through a lot of financial hardship right now but this isn't the right way to do it. I told him I know he says he did not steal it but I wanted to let him know that if he just turns the phone back over to me that I would not press charges.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flippy125:
If your Google account is still linked, you should be able to install androidlost from the online market and send an activation text. The instructions are on their site. If your sim card is deactivated, try Plan B by the people that make Lookout. Once you have proof it is at his house, I'd show it to your employer after phoning the police and get the guy fired to ruin his life even more
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
Damn :(

Wish I would have known about android lost Thursday when it happened. Yesterday I decided it was past my window to recover it (tried calling and it went straight to voicemail) so I changed my G-Mail password and deactivated the old SIM last night and got a new SIM card from T-Mobile.

At this point, as I said before, unless he pawns it, it's gone for good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Krooked22:
what a thieving piece of ****
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flippy125:
Well I'm not encouraging illegally entering someones house, but if it was mine I'd call in a sick day and stay home and definitely not pick his lock and take my phone back. I am not encouraging this action at all. Especially not busting his lip open when its in there
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
I work with a bunch of guys who grew up in the hard streets of New York, older guys. Trust me, a few of them wanted to get together and go rough him up. Everyone was really upset that my phone got stolen because they know how hard I work and how little I really have because I have to put my family first.

I was really tempted to do something, but realistically, it won't get my phone back. I'd be willing to bet anything he went and sold it that same night to a friend.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
i feel for you man, but after reading this I purchased cerberus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
Just sent you a little something to help out. :) Hopefully you can get enough for a replacement pretty soon. If it helps, here's a link to an unlocked GSM model for $410:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-...=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=base
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
Thank you man :) Every little bit counts. After Kenny PMed me and a few donations came in, I'm starting to get some hope that I may be able to replace my phone eventually. Without the help of you guys, I'd have absolutely no chance to replace it. That's a fact.

Luckily I was able to get my N1 back from a friend I gave it to, so I at least have a phone for the time being. Before that, I didn't even have a phone to use at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigpapax:
I want this app. Easier than hunting it down, and the feeling you get when you hit the boom button : PRICELESS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
What you've described is known as a Terry Stop. The "search" is strictly limited to a patdown of exterior garments only and must be supported by "specific and articulable facts." In other words, reasonable suspicion can't just be fabricated; it's a standard where an objective third party should also come to the same compassion as the officer. If they're unable to substantiate it, then it is a clear cut 4th Amendment violation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
Well it's good that you've got a spare for now, at least. So do you think this will finally get your company to upgrade to lockers now, if nothing else? I still think it's sad that they're not willing to reimburse you, since it IS their fault for not providing a secure location for it, if you can't keep it with you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
I was heartbroken when I found out my company would do nothing, especially after the temp agency said they'd do nothing. It basically meant I was on my own and nobody would do anything for me.

Our regional GM called and said he was really sorry, he sounded like he felt really bad. Corporate said its personal property and they don't cover that.

I came in the next day after it was stolen (Friday) and the first thing I was told was they were getting prices on lockers, so, yeah, they plan on installing lockers again...not that it helps me any at this point though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
the new lockers sound like a consolation prize and corporate hope this sweeps under the rug and is forgotten. anyways, don't fret. karma works in mysterious ways.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bizdady:
Man that sucks. Sounds like they should have had lockers from the beginning if you weren't allowed to carry belongins. Good luck on getting a new one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
Yeah, that's not much consolation at this point, but at least in the future you shouldn't have to worry about it happening again, if they actually follow through. It's a shame you had to be the motivation behind them doing it, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
I'm sorry for your loss..:(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatttire:
How do you get your phone back with cerebrus installed? Just show the info it collects to the police?

I dunno if I'd feel comfortable knocking on the door of the dude that stole my phone. And it seems if that guy knows anything about law that the cops couldn't do anything without a search warrant
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flippy125:
I just thought. You should check the employee rules and your contract. If there is nothing saying they aren't responsible for items stolen or destroyed, I'm pretty sure they are legally held liable. Especially if they didn't have lockers
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatttire:
This made me laugh thinking of putting volatile explosives right in my pants next to....

Excellent idea. Let me know how that works out for you.