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[HTC One S] Roberto_Lim:
Yes, C2 means the S3 version.

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[HTC One S] langers2k:
Received an S4 from dialaphone (UK) last week... Although they are no longer stocking them so they could be out now :/
[HTC One S] Ivancp:
Here in spain, all phones in orange are at the moment S4, but phones "free" or with any company, somethings come with S3...
[HTC One S] Tenacious:
Exactly this phone was perfect for me with S4 and the size of the phone is just wright but after seeing it might lose S4 is disappointing. I was willing to wait one more month when it's coming to my country but now I'm thinking of getting sgs3 because it's going to be here next week.

But still don't know to wait or not to wait?

That is the question.
[HTC One S] HL123456:
S3 vs. S4 & HTC One S Asia Version have been changed to S3

MSM8260(S3) MSM8260A(S4)

Semiconductor technology 45nm 28nm

CPU Instruction Set 1.2-1.5 GHz 1.5-1.7 GHz

Dual-core

Scorpion Krait

CPU Cache L2: 1 MB

GPU Adreno 220 Adreno 225

Memory techology Single-channel Dual-channel

333 MHz 500Mhz

ISM/266 MHz

LPDDR2

Also HTC One S Asia Version have been changed to S3 BEFORE releasing, attached Photoes.
[HTC One S] timtalkshow:
How do you know if you have an S3 or S4? serial #?
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
First the S3 chip and now this.......

What in the world is going on?!
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Slower and less efficient CPU/GPU, more pixels on screen = ****ty battery life and significantly worse performance especially in 3D apps/games.

I certainly like the idea of the HD screen but not with Snapdragon S3.
[HTC One S] Habarug:
If you look to the right of where it says 720p display it says qhd again? LOL. anyway, I would never buy this phone with s3, the s3 is ****!
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Lol I didn't even notice that. Wtf, HTC are losing the plot.
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
How do I check if ive got the s3 chip or the s4 chip? I bought the phone in UK 2weeks after it came out but I just want to be sure
[HTC One S] h.han:
You should get s4, since HTC just changed to s3 recently.

I am in UK, bought the phone mid of April, and exchanged one for the tempered sign reason. Still s4.

So yours should be fine.

Check yourself, download benchmark software antutu or quadrant from play store, they show the detail of the chip.
[HTC One S] h.han:
People talking about S4 being MSM8260A sometimes, and MSM8960 other times. Mine is 8960 and I am pretty sure it is s4, but what the different between these two? US version vs international version? Can someone enlight me pls.
[HTC One S] hon kin:
MSM8260A is basically the same with MSM8960, just without a LTE radio.
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
I can't specifically see that I've got snapdragon s4 but its 384-1512mhz I think that's s4 chip right ?
[HTC One S] h.han:
Have you downloaded quadrant from play store? There is system information option which shows chip detail. It should show MSM8960 as you got international version from UK as I did, it means s4.

Yes, 384-1512mhz could mean s4 cos s3 will be clocked upto 1.7ghz while s4 only gets to 1.5g. You are fine mate, I am 99.999% sure :)
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Ok so I have found the slip from my retail packaging. My serial number is SH23WW and I have experienced minor chipping in about 3 weeks. At least I know I can see the serial number without opening the box when I go the store, and the phone store next to me has the HTC One S as the deal of the week so I am assuming they have new stock. Hope so anyway.

One more thing I want to check, the package lists my model as: Z520e, and CPU: 1.5 GHz dual core.

Maybe the S3 version has a different model number.
[HTC One S] h.han:
Not sure about model number, anyone know if LCD version desire has different model number from amoled version one? HTC should follow the same pattern.

1.5G should indicate s4.
[HTC One S] jacewt:
Interesting, on quadrant, mine says MSM8960 but I bought it at costco for t-mobile US.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
MSM8960 is the US model I think. The EU one is MSM8260A.
[HTC One S] NienorGT:
Niet, the Canadian site list the MSM8260A and my phone says MSM8960 ×_×
[HTC One S] jacewt:
Well now I am confused.
[HTC One S] Nick L:
It's very simple. The One S has the Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A (except for the unlucky people who wind up with the S3 8260), regardless of where it is sold. It does not have the 8960, that is only for the LTE One X. Quadrant is incorrect (they might be referring to all S4-based chips as 8960).
[HTC One S] cougzzz:
Is there a way to check on the phone to verify if its 8260A?
[HTC One S] SageKing:
Hi there,

this is what i have found.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)

Scoll down to the S4 MSM8260a there is the One S listed. It also says that the cpu frequence is between 1.5 - 1,7 GHz. I dont actually think HTC is going to build in the S3. Thats the HTC Ville C with the overclocked S3 MSM8260. This is only shipped in the Asian Areas like Taiwan IMO.

Correct me if im wrong.
[HTC One S] TPA_Droid:
Is there any way to tell at a store (tmobile, best buy, costco, etc...) by looking at printed info on the box if it has the s3 or s4?
[HTC One S] SageKing:
Actually i really dont know. The only way i can imagine is to ask directly in the shop, if it is a S3 or a S4 SoC.

But i think if the One S is released in your country already you have a good chance to get the S4.
[HTC One S] hon kin:
Seems like 1.7GHz overclocked version is Z560e and normal S4 Krait version is Z520e?
[HTC One S] genez81:
if you want to check which version you have just download SetCPU from Play Store.

then go to "Info" tab -> "Device"

Write down the "Board:" value then go check @wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)

mine says MSM8960 wich is a Snapdragon S4

easy
[HTC One S] hon kin:
BTW, what is the last confirm serial number that has S4 Krait? Because i dont want to open a new handset and try my luck by testing each one...
[HTC One S] genez81:
S4 should be

only

Z520E
[HTC One S] ste_vlad:
Orange Romania sells the S3 version also, bastards, with renewal just around the corner... https://www.orange.ro/magazin-online/telefoane/htc-one-s
[HTC One S] meridiusuk:
Hi all

Nice to meet you all as this been my first post.

Just a quick question as i am thinking of getting a HTC one s as i live in the uk and wanted to know if its safe to get one of these because of the recesnt news about a lower quality version of the screen and the of a S3 chip.

Will the uk ever get this version or will it be safe ? or will the uk keep getting the S4 version with the super almond screen.

Thanks for any help of info in advance.
[HTC One S] h.han:
Don't think UK will keep getting s4 version, since HTC UK website starts to say 1.5-1.7ghz of the CPU rather than just 1.5.

However, it takes time to introduce new s3 version and there should be still some s4 stock left so it may be safe to get an one s now.

After all, you can mention this to your store either it's an operator or independent seller like CPW or Phones4u, if they don't have s4, refuse to buy. Simple.

To know which one is which one, check box to see the model number, z520 is s4, z560, s3, avoid. Or, see the CPU speed, should be 1.5g not 1.7g.

Hope this helps.
[HTC One S] olyloh6696:
God Damn it. I'm looking to upgrade from my DS. But if it has the bloody S3 chip, it's a no go for me :mad:

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[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Sup oly, I'm actually gonna go back to CPW today and replace mine after chipping. If I am lucky, they may have models with the slightly redesigned body (SH24T or later), because I've seen a few pics of that posted. Either all of them are redesigned from that batch onwards, or those pics I saw were just flukes. Either way, just look out for the model number and CPU speed and serial number on the box to make sure you get S4. The sooner the better.
[HTC One S] zukа:
Hi guys - I'm looking at buying a One S online. With this batch number, SH24T, what would I ask the website to check? What's that number actually referred to and where could they find it?

Thanks for reading
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
It's the serial number, it's on the back of the box. First six characters should be SH24TW actually, just to be safe.

This is just a theory of mine based on what I've seen around forums. Can't guarantee anything, so double check the model number is Z520e and the CPU speed is 1.5 GHz, you will definitely get the S4 chip in this case but no guarantee on redesign.
[HTC One S] opiswahn:
What the hell... this surely sux... I was about to RMA my phome because of the homebutton-switching problem, but what if i get a phone with an S3 back instead of an S4?? That's not what i payed for. On the german site they also say clockspeeds 1.5~1.7Ghz...

Seems to be the global strategy now... What a poor move from HTC...
[HTC One S] h.han:
I think if you have already gotten the phone with s4, and want to send it back for various reasons, mention explicitly the same model with s4 and super amoled.

It is different from buying a new one, in that case it's down to your luck but sending back, you are definitely in the position asking for the same spec you bought.

Effectively s3 version is a different phone cos it has different model number. You wouldn't expect sending one s away and getting desire back would you?

So just demand!
[HTC One S] louis.b:
Qualcom is the chip producer and they have been having troubles meeting the demand for the new S4 chip for a while and this piece of news was published ages ago.
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Lol if you are going to RMA your phone for the Home Button Issue make a statement here first: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1679649&page=4

[EDIT]

Just seen you posted there already...

And if you get an S3 version from RMA, it might even fix your Button Issue as there is that theory saying that the Button malfunctions due to radio interference from the Radio Chip sitting right below it. So if the Board layout changes with the SoC it might shift the Radio Chip away from the Button? Funny thought. Probably Bullcrap but worth a smile anyway :)
[HTC One S] azzledazzle:
Yes in theory it could work, But to be honest, Im a little fed up with HTC & Vodafone, ever since i got HTC with vodafone ive had nothing but trouble, However Ive had HTC's on other networks and been fine.

So if they send me the S3 version, Surely i can refuse to accept it and/or get the contract terminated as that is not the version i signed up for.

To be honest the S4 chip was one of the big USP's for me. Although S3 is a good chip, Its not what im paying for / nor agreed to.
[HTC One S] opiswahn:
Grmph, i hate that. I thougt this time, i'll get a new phone from a well known and good producer so i don't have any problems and now this...

I find it rather strange that there are so 'little' complains about the homebutton-switching issue... I would thing this should concern all owners of an One S. Do all the other users have HSDPA all the time or do they have a different boardlayout/radio/whatever...
[HTC One S] kyrofighter:
So after i read this topic i has to Pool zp which Version i Have... I has receive One of the second Gen htc One s ... With a 1.5 GHz Dual Core... The cpu is very powerful...

But my Problem is, HTC uses different ram modules in their mobile phones.. a HTC one s should have 1 gb Ram.. but mine only have 768 ... -.-
[HTC One S] azzledazzle:
It does have 1gb RAM, However about 250mb of it is reserved, for caches and other **** to make apps run smoother.
[HTC One S] TPA_Droid:
Purchased today and clearly states on the box that this is the S4 variant
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Where is that from? The packages vary between countries.
[HTC One S] TPA_Droid:
T-mobile US.
[HTC One S] seangprice:
If you read the press releases regarding the processor change you'll notice It's for select Asian and European markets. Looks like North America will continue to receive the S4 variant.
[HTC One S] decmk:
Which European markets

Link please.
[HTC One S] Big_Den:
A guy in this thread works at a retailer, latest batch seems to be S3 variants.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1589364&page=89
[HTC One S] demarton:
to add more to the list of country getting S3 powered one S, Singapore.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/htc-launches-desire-v-desire-c-and-one-s-in-singapore/16252.html

Why oh why htc?
[HTC One S] seangprice:
http://m.engadget.com/2012/06/12/htc-confirms-snapdragon-s3-one-s-sold-in-select-markets/
[HTC One S] roakes:
Has anybody compared the performance?
[HTC One S] hon kin:
I stay beside your country and both of us is having such problem right now... see my post for a full list:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1702409

i'm thinking to import a S4 set right now :mad:
[HTC One S] geostar1:
Just ordered one on contract from the carphone warehouse. They advertise it as having an S4 so if I receive the one with an S3 I can claim false advertising. I've also took a screenshot of the web page.
[HTC One S] olyloh6696:
Was it the £16 a month deal mate?

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[HTC One S] geostar1:
Yep. :D Only thing is I had to put down a £100 deposit due to my lack of credit history. :/
[HTC One S] Big_Den:
I have a feeling they're phasing out the S4 with the Adreno 225 for the MSM8960 Pro, which is the S4 with the Adreno 320. This necessarily doesnt apply to the One S, but there was talk Samsung will include a S4 for their S III with 2GB ram. Would make sense to include a more powerful SOC for a LTE device.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/qualcomm-unleashes-snapdragon-s4-pro/

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/50448...s4-processor-coming-to-canada-on-june-20.html
[HTC One S] TPA_Droid:
Double check the fine print. Sometimes they put in there that they may be able to substitute for... or some other loophole. Hopefully, they didn't and you are able to get your cash back. Post up what their response is when you confront them on this. Thx.
[HTC One S] cromozone:
Just picked up mine from the post office here in Prague, sent from Vodafone CZ, and it's the Z560e. It's going straight back...
[HTC One S] Big_Den:
Thats not good at all. Anyone looking to get the One S should start buying now, before they fully phase it out.
[HTC One S] cromozone:
I agree... plus anyone buying should be careful when checking the box. The specs listed on my box simply say "CPU: Dual Core", nothing else about what SoC is used. Fortunately I'd read about the different model numbers earlier...
[HTC One S] Harkunwar:
Hey

Does HTC One S come with 1080p 60fps recording or its 30fps

See the image
[HTC One S] Big_Den:
30fps at 1080p
[HTC One S] dilzo:
I've also ordered one from Carphone Warehouse for £16 a month, I'm not totally convinced I'm going to be getting the S4 version as I "Back ordered" it which meant that they're waiting on stock from HTC which I'm sure it's going to be the S3 chip. Oh well time will tell, if it's S3 it's going straight back. Also I'm receiving it on the 20th of June.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Let me know how that goes, and be sure to post the first 6 letters of the serial number also. I am on my 2nd One S, it's xx242 but hasn't chipped yet. It probably will, so I wanna know whether I should hold hope for a redesigned model with S4 when carphone warehouse gets new stock.
[HTC One S] Jundstars:
So for what i gather going through the threads is that:

1) the 2 versions are currently available (520 : 1.5Ghz and 560 : 1.7Ghz).

2) HTC might be slowly phasing out the one with the s4.

3) It is possible that the s3 in one s could be tweaked to perform better that the s3 in other phones (but still cant the s4).

4) Rooting methods and ROMs will differ for both models.

Am i getting this right?
[HTC One S] Habarug:
That's how I've gotten it as well :) I would've never bought this device if it had the s3, than I would've gotten the One X despite the huge size.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
What about the new speculation that after phasing out all current S4s it will be shipped with the S4 Pro (Adreno 320)?!
[HTC One S] Mr. pink:
Just received mine today black 520e so still the s4 i think here in holland
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Can you post the first six letters of the serial number, and if it has the "new style" beveled USB port?
[HTC One S] Nick L:
I don't think they're going to "phase out" the S4 model. They will probably still sell the S4 in markets where they are already sold (like the US, UK, etc.), and only places where the One S hasn't launched yet will get the S3. In other words, you'll only see the S3 in places where the S4 was never officially sold. That is the impression all the reports about this I've read give me.

The sales person whose post was linked to a few pages back is from Estonia, which is probably one of those markets where the One S launched later. He said that the batch he received was his "first" batch meaning they never had the S4 to begin with.

About the change of specs on HTC's country-specific websites (like the UK page saying "1.5 to 1.7"), I bet they're just automatically updating them to match the worldwide site without actually checking what will be sold in that country.
[HTC One S] roakes:
Having lost my previous One S I have ordered a new one from Amazon UK (Dispatched from and sold by PrepayWizard), it should hopefully turn up tomorrow, I'll let you know what version turns up!
[HTC One S] Eumaniac:
S3 now in Germany/Austria http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B0087O7XAQ/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1339698815&sr=8-1
[HTC One S] craig1965:
Got my One S 2 weeks ago and can confirm its S4 installed quadrant then I googled the chip number MSM8960
[HTC One S] Co5min:
I decided to replace my Motorola Defy with HTC One S. I saw it in the Orange shop here in Romania and it was love at first sight. Obviously, I didn`t know about S3 1.7 over clocked versus the latest top-notch S4 Krait 28nm, procesor issue. When I got home yesterday I checked and found that I`m running S3. I like the phone very much but still annoyed but this unfortunate HTC decision to treat Asians and eastern european customers. Performance wise, I`m sure 1.7 GH will do just fine but what about battery drain.... This is my main concern. I`m not a heavy user and I don`t want to imagine myself charging the phone daily, still. :( I don`t really know what to do ?! I can change it with other terminal today but not S4 as Orange only brought S3....
[HTC One S] Mr. pink:
serial number is SH24TW
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Is the USB port like the new style?
[HTC One S] Jundstars:
So now what happens? We have the same model with two processors...

will a new thread be started for One S with S3 processors?

I would still go with the One S (with S3) provided there is enough developer support.
[HTC One S] Habarug:
I hope they create a new forum, because if they don't, this will become a huge mess :/
[HTC One S] azzledazzle:
+1 to that, Im not sure how all the Mods / ROMs will work on the S3 version, But for the majority of users who wont know what Snapdragon is, will only cause a lot of confusion.

I can see a lot of bricks coming our way. !
[HTC One S] h.han:
Could you report back in this thread or another one which talks about battery life on s3 version about how long it lasts with a single charge.

To give you a general idea of the s4 battery life. The standby time does not matter too much but the screen on time does, on s4, screen on time should be about 4 hours plus. I mean without playing very heavy game of course, in that case it really hard to judge.

The standby time on s4 with mid to heavy usage, to me is still one day thing, from 7 to 11 (with around 30%left). But I play a lot of game for about 2 hours plus.

Please do share your experience that will help lots of people here.
[HTC One S] roakes:
Just received a Z520e 1.5ghz S4 version from Amazon UK
[HTC One S] Harkunwar:
In infibeam.com the price is a lot higher which is Rs 37000 ( 740$ ) which I don't think is a good buy

But in the specs it is listed 1.5 GHz Dual Core

It has just launched in India yesterday
[HTC One S] Co5min:
Not too much to share @h.han as I have already returned it to Orange and got my money back. I was so bothered by the whole thing that I didn`t even want to play with the phone. Just placed it back in the box waiting to return it on the following day, which I did. I ordered another one from a different GSM store and specifically instructed that persons to check on the box and let me know what is written in order to figure out whether is S4 or not. Hopefully, I`ll get the Krait early tomorrow.
[HTC One S] tomc_lufc:
I have also recieved the same model today in grey from dial-a-phone in UK
[HTC One S] kris234:
Hey guys,

Today i received my HTC ONE S but with the s3 cpu...

I have ordered the old one S (s4) with a contract, but they "changed" it to the new ONE S C2 ..

So Is it a big difference between those two? Should i try to talk with them and waste some nerves to get the old one S that iv ordered(especially when i have already opened this one and used it for a couple of hours ), or i can "live with it" ;D

Thanks..
[HTC One S] Big_Den:
If you really want this phone I would try and get the S4. S3 is a step backwards.
[HTC One S] kris234:
I rly like the phone, but with this new CPU it will drain the battery much faster right ? will it make a huge difference ? if its sth like 30 mins its ok for me ;]
[HTC One S] h.han:
I would advise everyone who is on the same boat to think this way, you spent 400 pounds(don't know which county you are in just use pound as ref) on a device but got a different one from what seller told you, and you are going to live with it? If you would not accept this when going to a restaurant ordering £400 meal but only get £300 worth back, you should not accept your one s either.

No one knows how s3 performs exactly at this point compared to s4, but one thing is certain, it is worse.

If I were you, I would go to the seller the next moment, shout at his face or on the phone, what the fxxx are you doing! And demand immediate replacement! And written apology from him.

We should not ever live with this, this will only grant them for further cheating.

However, if they told you s3, then it's a different story, you may live with it...
[HTC One S] h.han:
Another thing to say, what should be wasted is their reputation, money and time for giving you wrong device, not your nerve. We should stand straight and talk to their face.

Open or use the device does not change the fact that they were wrong in the first place, always stick to you right and protect it!
[HTC One S] kris234:
I totally agree with you h.han i sent them an email before i received the phone, because i ordered one s with a contract 20 days ago, and yesterday i received an email that the package with HTC ONE S C2 is on its way to me ... and i instantly tried to contact with them... but still nothing...
[HTC One S] hemingway60:
Guys, I checked the retailers today and they got the One S. Currently, this is the only retailer that has it. It is the MAO version, and the micro USB seems to be the redesigned beveled one. However the CPU model was Z560e :( This is the S3 1.7 GHz clocked version right? I'm heart broken now. I've waited so long for this phone and now it arrives with the S3 chip. I don't know what to do now. I really wanted this phone for the camera and crazy speed.

And about the MAO coating, I tried scratching the back with my nails and not a mark was there. (Don't worry, took permission from the employee). So now what? Should I get it? Its for around $585 while the Sensation XE (which I wanted before seeing the One S) sells for around $570. Not much difference.

The One X and Galaxy S3 are currently out of question. They're above my budget and the screens are ridiculously big in my opinion.