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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sputnik767:
Apple may no longer produce innovative products like they did back when the iphone and ipad were released, but that does not mean that they don't innovate. And you can't deny that the iphone and ipad essentially defined device categories. The smartphone and tablet PC as we know is a direct result of Apple's innovation, and at least they deserve credit for that.

However, the area where Apple shines has little to do with innovation and everything to do with the user experience. The products they release are generally very high quality, very highly optimized, and generally have very few problems. Buying an Apple product is like buying a Toyota; you know that it's a safe bet and will provide you with reliable service, even if the product itself is a bit bland and simplistic. But I have owned quite a few Android devices, and I have yet to see something put out that can match Apple in quality, smoothness, and few issues. I will still take Android over Apple every day, but credit should be given where credit is due.

As far as all of these lawsuits, I think Apple is scared, and rightfully so. Their products are dated and the competition is better than ever. While I don't think any single android device will unseat the iphone or ipad as #1 anytime soon, I do think that Apple has run out of ideas. And that does not bode well in such a competitive environment. The average consumer however does not care about lawsuits. They want their money to go toward a quality device, and the average person simply can't go wrong with an Apple product. That is also an undeniable fact.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mrej201:
How did the iPhone get to be the phone to beat? There are many phones out there from Samsung, Motorola, HTC and others that kill the iCrap, I mean iPhone.

From my perspective, my number one requirement is that I can clearly hear a caller. After all, it's still a phone. My second, and this is a deal killer, it MUST have a battery that I can replace or swap myself. Extended battery capability would be nice. Ever go down to Penn Station and see the iPhone users tethered to their chargers wherever they can find a wall socket so they can squeeze an extra few minutes of usage on their sophisticated doorstops? Yea, iPhones are very cool. Hahahaha.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
I played with an iPhone yesterday at the Apple store and it just felt "cartoonish" to me. I used to love my ipod touch back in the day. Apple really needs to change things up a little, not a fan-boy like most on here and don't understand why people take sides when it comes to souless corporations selling pieces of glass/plastic.

That said, iOS is getting really dated. Feels like Froyo.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mrej201:
i own the galaxy s2 and the galaxy music player plus a samsung smart tv im putting everything in my house wireless i love it thanx samsung
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sputnik767:
It's simple, works well out of the box, and gives the owner few choices but also few problems. Those are the things that make it most ideal for the average person. Everyone who knows even a little about tech knows that the iphone is far from the best on paper, but the average person does not. And that's exactly the demographic Apple is targeting. And if you think about it, if you were putting out a product, wouldn't you want it to appeal to the average person? Apple wants your grandma to pick up the phone and use it, without having to deal with flashing kernels or custom roms for smooth performance and good battery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chrisnosleep:
Apple and innovate, in the same post, twice in this thread, freaking hilarious!!!!!!!!! Do some research before you post nonfactual rubbish like this. Apple equates to BASF Corp in the gadget industry.

P.S. We don't take well to Crapple fan-boys in this section. Not sure if you are, just saying...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MochaCharok:
Sigh, at this point it's safe to say that if you develop a high-end Android phone, Apple has something to say to you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ewynn9:
The only thing I will EVER buy from apple again is an Ipod. The ONLY reason for that is because of how well it integrates into car radios.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FrameCityJackal:
I've been saying this, but instead of suing why not donate their money they would use to sue to....I don't know cancer research or something in that ballpark. That would make sense though....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sputnik767:
Lol, not an Apple fanboy in the least, although I do like my macbook pro. All of my recent mobile devices have always been Android and I have no desire to ever switch. However, just because you don't agree with what I wrote previously, does not make me wrong. I never said they were the first in anything. I did say that they defined the smartphone and tablet PC categories, and that is true. They produced the first successful smartphone as we know it today, the first successful portable mp3 player, and the first successful tablet pc as we know it today. And for that, they deserve credit. Note, I am speaking of the first successful smartphone as we know it today. That means things like multitouch display, centralized market apps, form factor, etc. I know there were smartphones before Apple and I had one. However, Windows Mobile 5 is in no way similar to iOS or Android, and neither is the stuff Palm had out back then. Same can be said for tablets. Before the iPad, tablets were heavy, underpowered, barely-usable touch interface, and trying to push a full desktop OS that was not really touch-capable. No surprise that nobody really wanted one.

As a side note, I am not here to get anyone's approval, so save your "we don't take well to..." remarks for someone else. I gave my opinion as I see it, and I stand by it. You are free to disagree.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MochaCharok:
Honestly, about developing the "first" device in those categories... I think it was just the fact that they had the money to market it their product to a large scale audience. That is where they deserve credit.

MP3 players, tablets, smartphones -- they were all successful but so widely spread and far from organized. Apple just came along, made their devices look and run well, and advertised it really well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Samsung actually won't let all the bs interfere with them selling Apple chips. Apple has all the money in the world to sit and pick fights and do nothing.

All I can say is if they ever prevent me from buying something I want the day I want it, they will never sell me a damn thing again. Try that for a competitive edge.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Go ahead Apple, sue Google.

Then I hope the United Nations shuts you down for human rights violations. Their business practices makes me sick. If you buy their products you are only endorsing them. I would shame anyone who is thinking of buying their stuff.

http://m.bgr.com/2012/06/07/foxconn-factory-workers-riot-apple/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] marksedge:
Apple will always win regardless how good our phones are in hardware/software ...there not selling the product there selling the dream.... to dreamers
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Tablet PC was created way before iPad or iPhone by Micro$oft.

Edit: read your other post when you clarify. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
I played with iPhone several time I don't like it. They feel like Cupcake or Eclair not froyo. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] corys00:
Until the accelerator gets stuck and cause you to get in an accident.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chrisnosleep:
No, not just because I don't agree with you, but because there is no technical data that supports it. (At least none that comes from a non biased or paid resource.)

According to who? You? They merely added features to a product that was already CLEARLY defined. I can clearly remember living through and enjoying both of these devices mentioned way before Jobs decided to steal MORE intellectual property and claim as his own. Namely, all of the iJunk. Are you old enough to remember what he did to IBM?

Your opinion. Palm would be the correct answer.

Your opinion. My OPINION is the NOMAD. Just curious how you judge "success"?

Definitely your opinion. Come on! Everyone had tablets out.

Do yourself a Google search for that term and see what you find.

Windows and Palm both had these way before.

Windows phones already had this form factor and Palm sort of did.

When a TRULY innovative device comes out, there is always room for improvement on any successive models.

LOL, thats why so many companies were on board for licensing, making and selling them. And why so many were sold.

I understand, and reiterate, NOTHING you are writing is factual and IS JUST YOUR BIASED OPINION. No need to retype the same thing in the same thread in an attempt to make Crapple seem superior. You stated that in your original post in this thread. Yes, whoopty-do, they marketed to the morons of the world. Ever heard of the Pied Piper? It's pretty funny how we here the same montage of crap from every Crapple fanboy. We've heard it all before, just like it was being spoken out of Jobs mouth. And yes, I know what you're going to type next and, if I keep replying, what you're going to type for the next 50 posts.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] killerbicycle:
Too bad apple is too stuck up to issue a recall, unlike Toyota.

I'm sick and tired of apple as a whole. Every time I pass an apple store I just want to grab a super soaker...

But apple has and always will be a patent troll. More cases need to end up where the Judge is fed up with the patent disputes and throws out the case.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pdaddy:
I am curious why the video game console company's dont go after each other on things like this. Nintendo has a new controller for the Wii U that looks an awful lot like the XBox controller.

Nintendo: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/03/nintendo-teases-wii-u-pro-controller/?a_dgi=aolshare_twitter

XBox: http://www.videogamesprice.com/images_products/Buy_Xbox_360_Wireless_Controller_Matte_Black.jpg
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] peanut1596:
The answer is simple. They will come up with something better. They aren't like apple who is being very sore about the fact that they aren't the best in everything they do. But unlike apple, PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo kick that **** old school and find ways to make it better, versus trying to sue on every little thing they can possibly think of.

Well that's my unprofessional opinion.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MochaCharok:
To be honest with you, I think it's because the Big Three (Sony, MSFT, Nintendo) enjoy one-upping each other.

I can see Microsoft retaliating with something new to this.

I really have never heard of console manufacturers bring products to the court, but I might be wrong. I just believe they are fighting it out the right way instead.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
Apple is full of hypocrisy. They claim they're mass lawsuits are from competitors using their software. "Our competitors are not using innovation, but rather, stealing ours." But these patent claims consist of things that Apple didn't even invent. What's disgusting about this is the fact that Apple is delaying innovation by placing fear in inventors. Visionaries who create great ideas in terms of software are going to get discouraged to the point of avoiding the situation in fear that one of Apples 6 million+ patents being impeded upon. It's sad that Apple's going this far instead of not introducing anything major to the market. (Look at how far SGSIII has gone since the original Galaxy S line, compared to Apple's iPhone 3-iPhone 4s.) Apple might aswel make an iPad you can ride, then file a patent on the discovery of wheels.

I like Apple's products (I personally don't own any, but they do work for those who have them.), but I hate Apple's business tactics with a passion. There's no reason to abuse the patent system this bad, other than pure greed and the inability to be innovative.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
Hmm, since Samsung is more American than Apple (the 'American' company) I think I'd rather buy from Samsung. Apple, claims to be American but ships almost all their jobs overseas. What does it say on the back of the iPhone? "Made in China"

Where is one of the likely places my NAND chip was built that resides in my Epic 4G Touch? America.

F*** Apple. Everything about them sucks. They steal and cheat then whine and sue when others borrow or innovate.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/samsung-austin-semiconductor-begins-36b-expansion-for-advanced-logic-chips-95960189.html yes it's an older story but still valid.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sputnik767:
Nowhere in any post did I say that Apple was the first. First as we know it or first truly successful, but not the first. Perhaps they knew how to market it better than anyone else, or they created the first devices that the masses wanted to buy, or a combination of the two. But the fact that the devices are wildly successful can't simply be explained away by claiming that Apple is marketing to morons, as some people have tried in this thread. Again, I don't own any idevices and have no plan to, but I do give Apple credit for their contributions. All of this going back and forth about who had the first whatever is just splitting hairs. However, I do think that Apple puts out high quality devices that work better than any Android device I've used out of the box. Trust me, you guys don't need to convince my that Android devices are better for me or better on paper, I already know that. What you need to do is convince the market that an Android device is better than an Apple device, and that has never been accomplished. But at least I am open-minded enough to see why the average person likes Apple rather than falling into the "Android is better and only morons buy Apple" camp.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VanillaG0rilla:
haha that had me cracking up
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LordLugard:
Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] flight01:
Let me just tell you guys that ios sucks hardcore. I work with it every day over 8 hours a day and its very buggy and can't multi task at all. It crashes so often its almost UN usable. You get more then one or 2 apps running and it lags and crashes.the thing that is funny is the crash messages always try to blame the app or a outside source not the device itself. Android is honest in that respect and specifically tells you what happened or stopped working. Ios is a piece and anyone who say different is a idiot or just does not have enough experience to know Any better
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] peanut1596:
I wonder if this one will get locked soon....? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
I have never really understood how this is a bad thing. To be a "mofo" is to be a person that could possibly be foing your mo.... So why call someone that? It is not degrading in any way LOL

So by my recogning those lawyers are to be looked up to LOL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Funny you mentioned that because I'm still looking into it (trying to get the controller f/w patch) - but the initial word I heard was not in USA.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
Some good info
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Edit: Found a more complete story here.

And the FOSS Patents notes that the jury trial has been cancelled in Chicago (since the Apple vs. Motorola story was mentioned above):

http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/apple-motorola-jury-trial-in-chicago.html

I respect IP laws but I think we're getting far beyond the original ideals of IP and patents when it comes to technology. Maybe a time limit shorter than 20 years would help get rid of these frivolous lawsuits and have them focus on innovation instead of trying to use patents to choke each other to death.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eltormo:
They are the new Microsoft every time they see a threat to one of their product they want to destroy it,the Galaxy brand is getting stronger by the day and apple has notice it,ad to this that samsung dethroned Nokia as the number one phone maker and apple is even more worry.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tubasteve:
Thank God Ford doesn't sue for their 4 cyl. If it wasn't for copy cats,we wouldn't have clean air cars.

It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Why would Ford sue for engine patents, International however sues them all the time. After thats over with International pays out millions in warranty money for failed parts. To think they are scared Ford will build an engine and they wont have to lose money anymore...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
Interesting. Whatever the case may be it seems Samsung has invested more in the US economy and job market than Apple has.

Also, Samsung stays true to it's origins whereas Apple doesn't. Samsung is from South Korea and this phone was made there. Yes, some parts were made in other places such as Japan or possibly America but most of the work and jobs remain in Korea so far as I can tell. Apple doesn't make or assemble anything in America, the phone even has "made in China" stamped on the back but they run around touting "we're an American company, look at what we do for America". About the most they do here is employ people to work in their hipster stores. Furthermore, most of Apple's products are assembled from parts made not by them, but by other companies (which Apple tries to claim as 'employees') like... Samsung.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] supercholo:
The kicker is that Tim Cook recently was quoted as saying "I'm tired of all these lawsuits..."

Yet it seems every week there is a new one. Apple is contect with starting new lawsuits to block releases, hopefully delaying phones from coming out.

Only problem is Apple doesn't see that this many lawsuits and delays is beginning to tarnish their image and is starting to turn people towards android.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
Frivolous lawsuits. Apple is scared to death of the s3, until now, they were the only carrier able to get a phone on every carrier.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigE-evo:
I agree with this quote regarding Apple stance on being an American Company. It is pathetic that so many people who own Apple products believe the hype. These "Sheeple" don't even realize or care that Apple has avoided millions or billions of dollars in taxes that would fund the state and keep people working and reduce the amount of layoffs. I'm sure many people who are laid off are sitting at home happily playing with their iPhone and waiting for the next Apple to drop to run and be the first in line to buy it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/b...ow-tax-states-and-nations.html?pagewanted=all

I'm not totally bashing them, they do make some good UI products, but I do not like their business practices. I understand that ALL major companies cheat here and there, but Apple should use their huge influence over their Sheeple and set a positive example.

I don't want to even get started with Apple's patient issues.

Just my 2 cents.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] acerti0519:
They need pay back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would personally like to Samsung refuse to sell they're screens to apple and force them to have to find a new vender further more I hope apple ends up getting in to financial trouble and to make end meet have to open source they're OS to make ends meet and ultimately some hacker looks in to the code and finds indications of patents that they have broke with company like google have patented witch will ultimately destroy the company and they're dictator control in the computer industry.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] modifidious:
Bought the G1 on preorder when Android first came out. Guess what? It had voice search/commands. Very alpha stages I would say of s-voice, and obviously well before Siri.

---------- Post added at 11:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:19 PM ----------

Obviously I'm an Android fan/Apple h8r 4 life...but Google is just as bad about evading taxes..Actually, just smarter :) Check this out about how they route their income:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...illion-u-s-revenue-lost-to-tax-loopholes.html
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Apple suing for similar (rectangular) look????

No wonder.

Last I heard Steve Jobs (before he died) sued his son because he looked awful lot like him...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
That's very true. I've seen quite a few people sit there and complain about the state of the economy and job market while they sit there and play around on their iPhone. Though I should be surprised at how dense people can be, I am. Then again, most Apple sheep don't think for themselves. They are the epitome of the person that takes the media at their word and can't form their own opinion.

Yes, other companies cheat. Some worse than Apple. However other companies, take Google for example, have an actual necessity for employing people in other countries. There are only so many pathways for getting information across the oceans, could you imagine the bottleneck if you were in say, the UK, trying to use services from Google if they only had servers in California?

It's not so much the cheating on taxes that I'm concerned about. It's the jobs that companies unnecessarily export to other countries. We're not in our predicament in the US because of failure to pay taxes. Not at all.

I needed that this morning lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zero Night:
I dont like apple.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ReActiveDisorder:
Need I say more.... :beer::rolleyes::beer:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dz1:
I love apple products except iPhone I have owned many apple items.. But what I hate most are the people who own an iPhone or iPod that call themselves apple fanboys.. Drives me crazy .. And yes it's ridiculous apple sues everybody :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bradfordv:
this guy says it best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQjE9h7jkA&feature=g-u-u
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tubasteve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e9ebi41Wc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Kinda interesting watch. Been hearing people killing screens way too easy.

Anyways. I'm still getting it (s3)

It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jeffreycat:
Apple knows that once the public tests the SGSIII, they will never look back :P. Not to mention the main innovative brain of Apple's operation is now gone....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Unknown_Hero:
Funny how Samsung makes their processors, Apple is so greedy that just shows me I'll definitely not be buying anything from them. Who doesn't want more freedom anyways??
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Not only that, don't you think Apple is becoming a monopoly? I mean look at it thos way, they try to get rid of the competition just to have themselves a good launch and good sales, while diminishing sales of other products. Sooner or later government is going to step in :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
China...

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Apple lost

The article is on engadget
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aaron130:
I LOVE Judge Lucy Koh,Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] morphis568:
Hence why I love their new commercial. I know it has to do with laptops but still.

http://youtu.be/JY-9IlsmKD8
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hmoobguy:
Apple should've been left for dead

Bill Gates should've let Apple died when Apple was struggling.

http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2009/08/dayintech_0806/

"1997: Microsoft rescues one-time and future nemesis Apple with a $150 million investment that breathes new life into a struggling Silicon Alley icon.[...]"
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] treyatl2006:
I was able to get HBO GO for the Kindle Fire to work for the motorola Xoom. I was wondering it it will work for my fellow galaxy 10.1 tab owners. Check to see if it will work for you...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1695913