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[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
I said something about AT&T being "under the hood" in preparation for shared data plans a couple of pages back. Looks like they've been under the hood for another reason too...

"Lose your smartphone? It happens to the best of us, but a new AT&T service allegedly set to debut on Tuesday is going to make life fairly difficult for anyone who picks up the device you lost - especially if they swiped it.

Presumably, AT&T will use the phone's IMEI, or International Mobile Equipment Identity, to match the block with a unique device regardless of whatever SIM card gets used with the phone."

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone.../at-t-to-launch-stolen-phone-database-1088246

Could mean nothing but adding the ability to kill stolen phones by IMEI is just database work. So is identifying what type of device is associated to a specific data plan. The coming weeks/months will be interesting as AT&T plays with their network and administrative systems.
[Galaxy S III General] suleiman.aql:
So I called again, gave them my S3's IMEI number and they said this phone is not eligible for the unlimited. I told them well there must be a mistake in the number, let me correct it to you, and gave them the IMEI of an old phone I had in the garage... Now I have unlimited.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
was the sim in the old phone? I'm thinking of doing this but I only have the IMEI number of a tracphone dumbphone I found, but it's sim locked. So my plan of action was to be:

call them from a landline or another number. Tell them I want to downgrade because I dropped and broke my phone and dont have the $ to replace it right now, give them the IMEI of the dumbphone, Then just use the sim (cut) in the GS3. I'm hoping that will work..
[Galaxy S III General] mahbitty:
I just cant go back to At&T They screwed me years ago when they changed to cingular and I am not ready to take it from them again haha
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
Make sure they take the gazillion digit long s/n from the new SIM card too. If they don't add it to your account you'll have data issues. It's more important than the IMEI for registering on the network properly.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
It will be my same sim card, just cut. The only IMEI I can give them though is from this old trac phone I have but it is sim locked so if I pop a att sim it doesnt register on the network. Would it actually have to register on the network or the fact that I give them the IMEI # is good enough? If not, I guess I could always find a cheap flip phone on ebay
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Congrats on your innovative and brilliant post.

☞ sent from my GS3
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
There's a thanks button for thanking my post, go ahead and use that.

☞ sent from my GS3
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
How much are you willing to give to me? I assure you that I'm an actual person, too.

I played with the AT&T version for several hours - doing the things I normally do - before taking the one that AT&T sent me (still new in box) and putting it up for sale. This was taking my i9300 (international sgs3) with a stock TW firmware and running it along side - at the same time as - the AT&T version of a friend of mine.

It was hard to find a buyer willing to pay only $500 for it - which is amusing when you consider that the international version sells for $600 easily.

Here's what I noticed in comparing them:

LTE didn't matter, as AT&T doesn't offer it at all in Western PA... (and even when they do, it'll never reach my rural house.) HSPA+ speeds were identical between the phones.

When only running the normal day-to-day things I run (email, sms/mms, browser, and an occasional game) - there was little to no difference in the phones. Actually, the i9300 was slightly more responsive. That might have just been perception, however.

The only time I noticed any difference between the devices in favor of the AT&T version was when I ran several different games in a row and came back to one I ran previously. In that isolated (and unrealistic case for me), the at&t started up the previously ran game faster. Perhaps a 1/2 second faster.

Then I did something that only the i9300 allows: I restored a backup of cyanogenMod 9 and did the same tests side-by-side with the AT&T phone. At this point, the i9300 was significantly faster and the extra 1 GB of RAM in the AT&T phone didn't seem to matter. (Perhaps it'll make a difference if/when cm9 is ever ported to the qualcomm variant of the sgs3.)

So, I could have sold my international for 600 or the US (AT&T) for 500. I took less money so I could have what I consider the better phone.

Oh, and I'm paying the full "smartphone" price for data - so even that wasn't a consideration for me.

Take care

Gary
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
I havent purchased my device yet I still have a choice and I'm choosing the international. LTE is not super important to everyone like me who is on wifi 90-95% of the time and when I'm not on wifi I'm out and about and I'm not using my phone to stream anything where I would possibly need a LTE connection. I'm choosing the international for dev support... yeah hate on the intl for that all you want buddy ;) Rom dev will be like all the US carrier rom dev combined. I could easily go get an AT&T version when I get mine in a couple of weeks but I'm choosing to get the international and the 1GB of ram will be plenty until I get a new phone next year when they all will have 2 gb ;) Of course if you lock into a contract for 2 years and dont change your phone for two years then it makes sense to get a 2gb phone. Yeah....for the next year 1gb is plenty. We should go troll on the us forums like you guys do here, I dont understand what you guys feel you need to prove... go.... enjoy your device and go back to your sandbox where you belong
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
I'm talking about places where people have lte. If you're on WiFi all the time I guess it doesn't matter but lte is so much faster than 3g. It really is beneficial if you're on it a lot. The s4 has been an amazing chip so far. The standby time makes up for the lte battery use in my opinion.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
They took all the sand out of my sandbox.
[Galaxy S III General] Nickel Dime Bay:
Loving my international (my first international phone), the incredible dev support for this phone is crazy! There's a new ROM from a new recognized developer every other day it seems. I get LTE here and i had a HOX which was great but the ROM's is what i wanted. 2GB of ram is cool but i mean who really NEEDs 2GB of ram? This thing is running like a cot damn BEAST on MIUI. Like someone else said, why are people with he att version in the international forums trying to prove that their phone is better? Go enjoy your S3 and wait for your ROM's which will come eventually.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Let's see, it could be because it says "Benefits of International Samsung Galaxy S3 for US (AT&T) users" in the topic headline but that's just a guess.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
All I saw was blah blah blah.

Why are you here on the international forum preaching about your choice? Oh, it's because the international One is more popular, will alway get updates before the carrier versions and has the best development. You're here posting because the international is more bumping and your boards are pretty much dead with crickets.

Lastly this isn't a comparison thread, there is one here where you are welcome to post your opinion but on topic this thread is here to help people get their phones to work on ATT.

P. S. Nice try.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Did you read the OP? Just wondering. Yes, part of the post is to get their phones working on AT&T but read the headline again. Then read the first half of the post.
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
He was talking about the One? I thought this was another krait variant sgs3 troll.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Who me? I wasn't talking about the One X. Strictly about the SGS3. Was I the only one who read the op?
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
In ten days we will run jelly bean when the source code is out. CM team posted about a confirmed and easy port if your device already runs CM9 which covers our phone.

Waiting for that. I think it will be one of the first devices to run JB after nexus.

☞ sent from my GS3
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
Oh, so I'm not an actual person because I don't live in a place with LTE? heh.

Are you making this up as you go along? Trolls tend to do that... are you a troll?

---------- Post added at 02:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:14 AM ----------

I'm sorry, Neo. You aren't the One. Maybe in another life. In the meantime, please go away.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Well my hair is green and my body is short, grey, and shriveled but no I'm not a troll.

Re-read my post. I said that it may not matter much to someone who doesn't have lte in their area or if they use wifi a lot. Where did you get that "I'm not a person" stuff from?
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Haha that really made me laugh. You are gonna make my wife think that im gonna waste six hours of my life again. *Setting up the blue ray for three discs of Matrix*

☞ sent from my GS3
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
Probably from this statement that YOU made:

Go ahead and re-read your entire post. I'll wait. Here's a link to it (being I won't be so rude as to quote the entire thing): http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28439789&postcount=850

Being that you're now saying "to someone who doesn't have lte in their area..." I guess it implies that people who don't have LTE in their area aren't actual people.

Newsflash: AT&T's LTE coverage at the present time is pathetic. It sucks. It's almost as rare as an honest politician. The MAJORITY of AT&T subscribers are not in LTE coveraged areas. I think I read a study a couple weeks ago that estimated that only 10% of AT&T customers are in covered areas.

And yet.. even if I had LTE (and I think I've already mentioned that I had LTE with verizon for a short time) - I'd still choose the international version of this phone over the US version. I listed my reasons in a post above. Do trolls know how to read?
[Galaxy S III General] dasistsparta:
Try not to let verizon users know that lol ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Me too! I was ROFLOL so hard! I'm gonna go watch my whole collection of Star Wars now.

Oh boy. Well guys it's been fun but I have to go fix the leak under the bridge if I wanna get some sleep tonight. Trol.. *cough* I mean some people have it rough sometimes.

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Let me clear up what I MEANT seeing as you're taking it the wrong way.

A person with that ACTUAL model phone.. So what I wrote it wrong. Call me a troll why don't you.. Oh wait. Nevermind.

Wait a sec, there's places that teach us to read?!
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Yes. Did you read the whole thread where the MOD said multiple times to quit the flame war? I guess not.
[Galaxy S III General] henrybravo:
Have fun with your ****ty battery life and lack of custom ROM choices (if the AT&T S2 ROM choice is any indication). Most of the good S2 ROMs were ktoonez or hellraised ports of International S2 ROMs. There won't be such a port method for the S3 ROMs, so you'll be high and dry compared to the International ROM selection.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
I missed that part. Hey I just gave my opinion just like everyone else. Just like the OP did. I'm entitled to that. If someone doesn't like your opinion than you are instantly labeled a troll. It's common practice for people who don't play fair.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
What I'm pointing out to you is that everything you have typed so far is not like it already hasn't been said here. It just got deleted by mods. But the person you are superseding is named James, and you are just doing exactly what he said and saying exactly what he said and a flame war got started. I'm not saying you're opinion is completely wrong, but it is redundant now and therefore irrelevant and I mean that in no offensive way.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
The battery life is plenty fine. The roms don't bother me. Just one good rom is all I ask for and there are plenty of those.

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Well then I apologize. I know what you're pointing out. I'm not stupid. Just acting like it after the replies I got. I didn't feel like reading 85 pages. I wasn't the one who started to flame btw. Someone felt they just couldn't take my opinion without telling me I was wrong and calling me a troll. A simple I don't agree would have been sufficient.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Here you go. It is a thread right below this one.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1683261&page=49
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
Okay. Very good. I am an "ACTUAL person with that model" and I have chosen to "give it up for an international one."

Is that what you meant? Because I'm over here waving my hand in the air. In one hand I have my i9300 and in the other I have the AT&T phone (in the box ready to be shipped out Monday morning.)

You seem to think that the 2GB of RAM and LTE support is significant enough to make a large difference thats great enough to overcome the advantages of the international model (which, lets face it, is an entirely different phone inside.) You should also know that the extra 1GB of RAM is actually closer to about 1/2 GB extra.. the qualcomm chip reserves a large chunk of it for video functionality and such (the exynos chip in the i9300 doesn't take this large chunk.)

Tell me - have YOU ever held both phone models at the same time for a significant amount with complete freedom, time, ability and desire to compare them? Have you done so? If not, you're here trolling and should leave before a moderator steps in.

Take care

Gary
[Galaxy S III General] henrybravo:
To each his own. I've been with AT&T since the Cingular days and I'm currently not in a contract so I could have easily gotten the AT&T S3 for $199 or whatever they're selling it for. I specifically chose the International version because of the better HSPA battery life and the worldwide developer community. The International version gets ALOT more official updates than the U.S. version, and will get JB a lot sooner too.
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Sufficient enough for me. My people don't have that freedom, time, ability, or desire to have both. We're little people remember? Stop discriminating.

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I do agree with the update process. AT&T doesn't seem to be as bad as the other carriers tho like Verizon, and Sprint. I don't know about T-Mobile as I've never had them.
[Galaxy S III General] paulavetta:
LOL! Brillant!
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
It was brilliant I have to say. I did use it. That post really caught me by surprise.

Anyone else?
[Galaxy S III General] crashck:
Alright I found something interesting...I was on google's play store website on my computer, and I clicked to install an app to one of my devices and I see that my galaxy S3 is listed as

ATT

GT-19300. So Google knows I am using the international phone on ATT? Im very confused...does it do the same with any of you? BTW I have not been caught and gave dumbphone IMEI to ATT (and I know ATT and Google have no relation to each other)
[Galaxy S III General] Skizzy034:
Thank you. Now I can go.
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
The two pieces of information are unrelated. Google Play sends the phone model for compatibility reasons, and send the currently attached network identifier (310410 for at&t) for legal reasons. (So people in country XYZ can't download something that's illegal in their country.)

There are programs for spoofing the network identifier (that are often used to get google wallet to work on a device where the carrier has said they don't want it used.) Changing the phone model is as simple as editing a property file in the /system partition on the phone. (after you've rooted, remounted the system as rw, etc)

Take care

Gary
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
Good question. I have no IMEI on either of my two devices in AT&T's system and have been fine. So if the IMEI was being validated to register on the system I'd be having issues. So my guess is the IMEI of a non-Smartphone that they recognize (one of theirs) or not should be fine. It still doesn't explain the strangeness some have reported. I'd also imagine that the SIM reports the IMEI of the device it's being used in when it registers on the network. So there's really no way to hide if AT&T starts scanning IMEI's and mapping them against the plan of the account the SIM is registered to. There's been no pattern yet to really tell if the couple of people being caught means anything. If something is really changing we'll know soon enough.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Thanks!

☞ sent from my GS3
[Galaxy S III General] henrybravo:
Nothing to worry about. I've noticed the same thing in my Google Play Store device list. They just know we've got an AT&T sim in our phones. I'm still on the grandfathered $30 unlimited plan from my old iPhone 3G days.

Edit: garyd9 answered better than me. :)
[Galaxy S III General] crashck:
That would make sense. Sorry for asking a lot of questions on this thread, I'm just always wondering about stuff.
[Galaxy S III General] avetny:
WTF is going on here ?

Some one trying to compare Fake HTC Galaxy s 3 with Original Galaxy s "3" ?

You guys kidding me ?!

Ha!

Let me repeat something funny people.

How you can compare GOD LIKE with FAKE LIKE ???

-Galaxy s III with Dual-core Adreno 225 GPU ! Do you catch the meaning ?!!!

Let me open your eyes like this ":eek:"

-Adreno 225. Do you know WTF is this, kid? Let me show you.

OPEN Browser go to Youtube.com >>>> DESKTOP view>>>> and type "High definition 1080p video".

Now PLAY it in 1080p.....YOU SEE you ****ty phone can't do this !

Now take your girlfriend's Galaxy S II and do the same thing.....YES now go and cry because old phone just OWNED your new one.

Some benchmarks on galaxy s II will be higher than in yours HTC phone !!! Why HTC ?? Because you just bought HTC One S he got same processor with the most CRAPPY GPU.....adreno 225.

How you can COMPARE: "BMW-5 with BODYKIT of M" with the real "BMW M5" ????

WE GOT "FAKE AND ORIGINAL".....and is nothing to compare here son.

-They can say and show that it is fast but

[YOUTUBE]K00RVERwaj8&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

they are deceiving

Oh yea 2GB of ram:o:angel::laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Thanks aventy!

This post was very informative. Let me try this on both phones and I'll report.

☞ sent from my GS3
[Galaxy S III General] avetny:
Lagging/Performance issues - International version better for me

-By some user Fgocards

2nd July 2012, 11:57 PM

As you can see, very new to these forums but looks to be a friendly community and I look forward to settling in.

Any who, onto why I made this thread. I received my Galaxy S3 last Friday from AT&T, I paid $573 for no commitment because I'm canceling service with them and using Straight Talk. It started off all good, booted up the phone and had no problems with set up.

However, this soon changed after I got over the initial joy of having a new phone and started to look at it more closely. The home screens stutter when sliding them across, and the app drawer is really not a whole lot better. I'm not talking like freezing lag, but definitely not something you'd want to see on a sub $600 phone...

I ran a few benchmarks and my fears were confirmed.

Antutu: Highest - 5543 on a fresh wipe, 4900 on average. My girlfriend gets 6300 on her SGS2 Looks like the SGS3 should be around 8-10k.

Quadrant Standard - 3273 on mine with a fresh wipe, girlfriend getting 3900 on her S2. Looks like it should be getting about 5000 on average.
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
Benchmarks are meaningless. I can modify AOSP to spit out incredible benchmark numbers, but it'll run like crap in the "real world." Anyway, the i9300 gets 11.6k-11.7k in antutu. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] naveen94:
quick question. What if i am on ATT and buy a S III for sprint/t mobile and unlock the phone to use on ATT. Would this trick work for ATT or would they still be able to see that it is a U.S. phone?
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
I’m on my sixth imported device. As a matter of personal choice, I’d never go back to using a carrier-provided phone again; even if what I was paying for service was the same for both. Here’s a generic comparison of one over the other in different categories.

Let’s talk about this a little further in practice.

-	If you’re rooting and flashing your phone all of the s/w differences between the phones become pretty much moot.

-	Carrier modified radios can also be re-flashed to generic in some cases. The radio you’re using tends to become an issue if you use your phone internationally. I travel abroad a lot and having a generic vs. AT&T radio is very important to me.

-	Fewer people are likely to root and flash their phones if it means risking their warranties. The same thing applies if you use your phone to register on foreign networks a lot as flashed ROMs are universally problematic. Things like unmolested s/w and updates directly from the manufacturer become more important in these instances.

-	The savings on my monthly plan brings what I pay for my international devices down significantly. The higher resale value allows me to change phones more frequently. I paid $650 for my One X and got $450 for my i9100 two months ago.

-	Warranty work is a big issue and one I think people overlook when deciding which phone to get. Through Negri and Expansys you can get your phone fixed but you’ll be without it for weeks vs. an overnight swap via a carrier. To me, getting an unmolested phone is worth the hassle.

-	LTE is fantastic, who wouldn’t want more speed if they could have it? Being able to consume huge amounts of data quickly benefits AT&T more than it does me. I’d rather have truly unlimited HSPA+ data at a lower price than to have to pay five times what I’m currently paying to get 5GB’s of LTE.

-	As it applies to the SGS3, I’d still get the Exynos version even though the U.S. version is the least molested phone ever offered by a carrier. Exynos and Mali with 1GB of RAM is how Samsung’s presenting their flagship device to the world. S4 is a compromise to accommodate LTE and one I expect to be replaced as Samsung's working on integrating LTE in to Exynos. The extra GB of RAM isn’t a gift; it’s to compensate for Adreno which is a pig. After what Adreno sucks up, there’s probably a ½ GB left for better multitasking. To me, getting the device as Samsung intended would be worth more than better multitasking.

All of this is YMMV and everyone’s hot buttons are different. Just because (I believe) the Exynos SGS3 is better doesn’t mean the compromises like HSPA+ vs. LTE, warranty hassles, less RAM, and higher upfront cost, are worth it for everyone.

Bottom line – “to each their own,” there are pros and cons to each device, and everyone should stop trying to inflict their personal biases on others.
[Galaxy S III General] dasistsparta:
It doesnt need lots of effort to understand which phone is better. Just look at the resale value the phones got in the market. The intl versionhas been out for more than a month and it still selling fir $650 and up while the usa version has been out for a week or so and its price dropped to $500
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
Keep in mind that the SGS3 because of its larger HD display is pushing a lot more pixels than your gf's SGS2. The i9300, One X, One XL, and O4X are really the only comparable phones to benchmark against right now.