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[Galaxy S III General] suleiman.aql:
Well, I called around noon which is a busy time and I think someone informative was around. Because when I talked with the lady she sounded so welcoming and accepting about the idea of the non smartphone plan. But when she requested the imei and saw that it's weird, she said that she'll put me on hold to see what's going on. Then she came back and said okay you're phone is the galaxy s3, and we can't give you that plan.
[Galaxy S III General] IFireflyl:
A rep from AT&T (in store) told me that all their data plans do the same thing when we were chatting. He said it's basically a way for them to make more money since the faster the internet speed the more bandwidth is being used. That's what I was basing my information off of. If they can't tell the difference between edge and HSPA+ speeds then I'm not sure how they could tell the difference between HSPA+ and LTE unless they actually do have two different APN's. Something to think about for sure.
[Galaxy S III General] crashck:
Lmao act super angry to customer support and always get what you want or ask for manager and threaten to go to the dark side (verizon) :p... Jw though did you give them your IMEI number initially or not? Bc I never gave them my galaxy s3 IMEI
[Galaxy S III General] IFireflyl:
I gave them my Galaxy S3 IMEI. It shows up unrecognized in their system, but all my friends with iPhones (and really are they friends at that point) said that their iPhones see that I have an iPhone now. How messed up is that?
[Galaxy S III General] Sango2:
I guess I'll give AT&T a phone call or chat with them online and tell them I switch back to my Sony phone....! I guess benefit of saving $5 dollars and get unlimited data ha!

I always had 200 MB plan (before it got switched to the 4G one), for about 1/2 year now when I had Galaxy Nexus and didn't use that much data. About 3/4 Megs a day on average.
[Galaxy S III General] crashck:
What app makes the iphone try to identify your type of phone? That crazy and probably not good if the iphone can detect at least a smart phone bc att may make the same mistake :confused:

I always heard LTE is completely different than all the other networks... Jw may be wrong....But as he said they are trying to make money I doubt they monitor the unlimited plans the same way they monitor the capped plans bc the unlimited plans make them less money and it gives them a reason to kick you off the unlimited to make more money
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I just looked up my ATT account for you guys and this is what I see.

Keep in mind that I have 5 lines in my account and these have following 5 phones as they appear from top to bottom:

1. iPhone 4S

2. iPhone 4

3. Old Nokia Dumb Phone

4. AT&T Galaxy S3

5. International Galaxy S3

I will update this post with a picture from my account which shows that the ATT system looks at the 3. old dumb phone and the 5. International Galaxy S3 as both dumb phones.

Edit attaching the snapshot:
[Galaxy S III General] crashck:
Woah u got the att version too? :eek:..... Traitor :p
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Haha... I'm international version all the way man. That's my phone right there at the bottom.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
So it's showing up as a GS3 and you still have a media net plan? hmm that's odd. I would think they would have noticed that by now.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Please read my post again. It is not showing up as an gs3. I have both international and USA version.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
opps my bad, it's late and I'm tired. lol
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Lol np ;p
[Galaxy S III General] rohitruls:
Smartphone or Non-Smartphone??

I am buying the International Variant of S3 (I9300) from India Soon for $660.

Will it be recognized as a Non-Smartphone Device if I take an At&t $50 Unlimited Prepaid Plan?? As I am planning make use of the Unlimited Data provided for smartphone in that plan! :D

Link to the At&t Prepaid Plans:

att.com/shop/wireless/plans/prepaidplans.html
[Galaxy S III General] garyd9:
The little picture that shows up on myatt is meaningless. Mine is showing a gray flip, but I can easily go on their website and change it to any phone I want to. Mouse over the picture and click it (might popup with the text "not my phone.")

That picture only relates to the device help that's offerred on the website. If you purchase a phone from AT&T, it will update that, but you can always change it to whatever you want later.

Gary
[Galaxy S III General] crashck:
That is half true.... Yes it is useful for the help for the phone, and it can be changed but assuming you don't manually change it. It allows you to see what the system changes the phone to automatically and therefore you know what phone att thinks you have.
[Galaxy S III General] enkur:
Just to add to the conversation about the picture on the AT&T website. I originally had the AT&T galaxy SII when I switched over the S3 they changed my plan to the non-smartphone plan. The next day I had a message that my plan has been changed to a smartphone plan. Then I logged into the AT&T website and it was still showing my ATT SGS2. I switched the picture to some dumb phone from Samsung and then chatted with online rep who switched my plan back to non-smartphone plan.

I have now been using the phone over a week and they havent switched it on me yet. I think its necessary to have the website show some non-smartphone for it to stick.
[Galaxy S III General] Nickel Dime Bay:
This may or may not be the right place to ask but a little insight is appreciated. I took my sim out of my at&t one x (unlimited LTE plan) and just popped it into my GSIII and it still shows my one x on the picture. This was two days ago, am I missing out on more speed by still having the LTE plan? Or should I switch it to hspa+

I only get the wap Cingular apn btw
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Do you have international gs3 or at&t gs3?
[Galaxy S III General] Nickel Dime Bay:
international
[Galaxy S III General] IFireflyl:
Downgrade your plan. You're wasting money as the international version doesn't get LTE speeds.
[Galaxy S III General] Nickel Dime Bay:
You mean get the unlimited hspa+ right? Dont wanna lose my unlimited,
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
If you stick to grandfathered unlimited plan it guarantees you unlimited data for rest of your life for 30 bucks until at&t changes its policy.

If you switch to HSPA plus then you get unlimited HSPA plus data for 10 bucks, but you may risk of losing the unlimited data sometime in future.

Decision is yours.
[Galaxy S III General] Noob-Tard:
my experience with AT&T and a question

I have an international S3 and was able to sign up for the AT&T $10 unlimited plan using the GS3 IMEI#. I did this on the 29tgh of June. The SIM is in the mail on its way here.

I do have a question will this phone just work when I put the AT&T sim into it or do i need a different ROM/Firmware/radio? If so can some give me a link to what I need>? I am lost with all of this and struggling.

Thanks,

Noob-Tard
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Just put the sim in and it should work without any issues. If you run into issues you know where to find us.
[Galaxy S III General] jinksd:
Is At&t sending the sim? Did you request a micro sim?

If At&t thinks you have a dumb phone they may send a regular size sim which will need to be cut down to micro sim size.
[Galaxy S III General] thegameksk:
Maybe you guys can help me. I am a Sprint customer. My contract is up in August. I am looking to get the Galaxy S. My issue is I may teach overseas in January and since Sprint has no sim card the phone wont work. So now I am looking for a new network. Does anyone know if the atnt phone will work overseas? I dont want to lock myself into a contract and then end up cancelling and paying. Also about how much can I expect to pay per month with cheapest minute plan, unlimited texting, and the data plan trick you guys use? It does suck that I may be losing my SERO plan. Thanks for any help you can provide.
[Galaxy S III General] ventowtf:
Gave them a dumb phone esn and got on the $10 plan, put the sim in my i9300. 6 hours later I got a text and email saying I'm using a smartphone. Now I'm on a 3gb plan lol.
[Galaxy S III General] Noob-Tard:
I told them it was a flip phone so they are sending a regular sim so I bought a slim cutter off amazon for $4
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Well of course you are. You're using a ATT branded phone. They have those IMEI numbers stored.
[Galaxy S III General] jinksd:
The following was posted by you on 22nd June 2012, 10:36 AM

Did your phone come from AT&T or is it the actual international version?
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
What does it show on your att account? Can you post a snapshot here?
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Hey guys. Quick question. I'm using my micro sim from my lte htc one x. I've been on the 10 plan for almost a month without issue but my cell service is bad on this phone. Never experienced with att before. Most places I hardly have any bars where I used to. I'm curious if its just the phone or the sim. Does att use different sims for phones that are lte vs say hspa+? I was just wondering if that could be the issue. I'm assuming I can only get a new regular sim from att and not micro as a replacement.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
As far as I know all the sim cards are backward compatible. I don't think you need to switch it. If you continue to receive bad signal then may be you can give it a try.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Try different modems.
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
I've flashed roms and kernels but never modems. Any particular ones I should try?
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Try this one dxlea.

https://www.box.com/shared/378a1cfafae44f3915d8
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Thanks. Can I just flash this via recovery or do i need to use Odin?

Forget it figured it out. So I found this link here full of modems. The one u gave me I noticed no different. Can I just try these different ones and see which works best? Just want to make sure I wont mess up my phone by trying different ones

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1740061
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Flashing modems should be avoided. Once you have tried the one that works best for you you should stop experimenting.

Start with the one that I gave you, give it a week and only if you are experiencing bad network, switch to others.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Yes use Odin, and select the tar under "phone." ummm, double check this can't remember 100 percent.

If it's a zip then just use cwm.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
LOL, people don't read anymore, do they?
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
Thanks man nice flashed a couple and not getting more bars but definitely getting better hspa speeds.
[Galaxy S III General] ventowtf:
I had the AT&T version, sold it and got the international version. I called customer service and they told me it was a galaxy s3 i9300. I think the jig is up.
[Galaxy S III General] ventowtf:
The i9300 is the international version, where did you get the impression I was using the AT&T version??? My point is they are flagging the international gs3, model number i9300gt not the i747 AT&T variant.
[Galaxy S III General] SmiLey497:
If anybody was wondering what the password is in the APN settings under username it's CINGULAR1.
[Galaxy S III General] jaesun:
this is what made me laugh the most. Save yourself 30 seconds of load time in order for you to swipe the screen a lot and zoom in and out while squinting, or watching netflix phone without lag (WOOHOO AMIRITE) on a 5" screen (why bother with 20 MBPS on a sweet screen such as your tv or monitor when i got LTE ON MY PHONE). Sure LTE is nice, but not a reason for anyone to ignore any other version of the GS3.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Alright for you guys that are getting busted lets gather some data.

1. What original firmware were you running? Where is your phone from? Example, mine is the international UK version, no carrier stuff like O2 is on the device.

2. Where did you get your phone from?

3. What plan do you guys have? Go phone?

4. How many lines do you guys have? I got 4.

My theory is that either ATT might be paying a company like Expansys USA or Negri to give them a list of their inventory.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
So, you're putting the microSIM from your AT&T smartphone into your international phone and expecting it to clear? Google "microsim provisioning" for starters.

Get your microSIM swapped out with a regular 3G SIM nonsmartphones, cut it, then try again.

Yeah, but in his luny ass world, that makes perfect sense!
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
Another question that would be good to ask is if they are using a micro sim they got from AT&T or if they used a sim cutter. Who knows, maybe the people getting busted are using micro sims as opposed to cutting their sim? That was something I asked myself. It's just odd that some people are getting busted and others are not. I'm kinda worried about even trying it when I get my GS3. Since the micro sim is only used for 3 of their phones all of which are smart phones, maybe they are hip to you adding a non smartphone plan on a sim that is only available in a smartphone?
[Galaxy S III General] enkur:
Alright let me contribute some more to this thread. Once I got my International SGS3 (bought it from Negri) I went to the AT&T store and told them I need a micro sim but do not activate it yet. I went home and called AT&T and told them I need a sim activated and to change my data plan for non-smartphone. The agent activated the micro sim and switched me to non-smartphone once I gave him the IMEI. It took one additional try because the phone listed on my account was still the AT&T SGS2 so once I switched the online account to some dumb Samsung phone I still have the non-smartphone plan and its been over two weeks. I have been surfing a lot on it and even took it to Las Vegas this weekend where I tethered the heck out of it. Still working great on $10 :)

no sim cutter required :)
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
I think that the IMEIs are being reported by a company that sells the phones. It's as simple as AT&T asking Negri for example

"Hey Negri, we'll give you $$$ for the IMEI numbers you guys got in with your shipment."

---------- Post added at 10:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:42 AM ----------

My MicroSIM came from my HTC One X, and I have no trouble with it.
[Galaxy S III General] enkur:
Dude if they really wanted the IMEI all they have to do is ask Samsung.. they are partners with them and would give them all the IMEI they need why they need to pay Negri.. that is retarded. how many phones do you think Negri/Expansys sell maybe only a few hundred.. not worth the trouble.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
hmm ok well there goes that theory.. lol

I will try it when I get mine, worst comes to worst they put me back on my 4gb with tethering plan :/
[Galaxy S III General] ventowtf:
I wasn't using a micro sim, I cut this sim myself.
[Galaxy S III General] Sango2:
I guess I should call in and tell them that I use back my Sony Ericsson flip phone since it's still showing a flip phone in my account even thou I use S3.

Only got the 200MB plan anyways, so I guess no harm in giving it a shot to save $5 and get unlimited.

Funny thing is that they are using an IMEI from nether of my phones (Galaxy Nexus or S3) as the rep just got a AT&T HSPA+ phone they had lying in the back and put its MEI in the system to put me on 4G plan since I was like on 3G or something before which was set based on the Sony phone.
[Galaxy S III General] james11417:
I'm already on the $10 medianet plan so hopefully when I get the SGS3, they don't change me.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Because dozens of our IMEIs have not been reported or black listed Mr. smart one. There's more of us here that this method worked for than failed.

So if Samsung did give all the IMEIs then how are most of us getting by?

Yes it sounds retarded, but as of right now it doesn't make sense the way put things.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
They don't have to ask anyone. The first five to seven characters of the IMEI denote the make and model of the phone. It's published information and every new device introduced has its own unique make/model ID. If you guys compare, all your first five (or seven) IMEI numbers will be the same. AT&T's never implemented an IMEI check but doing so isn't rocket science. It's basically adding a flat file database to their systems that runs an IMEI check against the plan provisioned in the respective account as the phone registers on the network. I'm not saying their doing it, but it's pretty easy if they wanted to. If they see lots of revenue leaking and read forums like XDA where everyone's boasting about "beating the system" that's certainly an incentive. They’ve already said their following VZW with “pooled data plans” which means there’s a lot of system work already underway. It would make sense to address smartphones on non-smartphone plans while they’re under the hood.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Sure that's totally logical but still doesn't explain why some of us are able to do it and some of us can't. Who knows if ATT has had their capable, if any, software writers to implement such algorithms.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
I think some of the trip ups have been because people have gotten agents/reps that aren't idiots. Telling a store rep "I'd like a micro SIM to go" for a non-smartphone data plan is a pretty big red flag since no dumb phones use micro SIMs. Same thing with using a high-end Android phone or iPhone and consistently paying over $100 a month to AT&T and suddenly telling an agent you've decided to use a $49 flip phone. Just because they don’t push back doesn’t mean they haven’t flagged your account.

This is an area too where the SGS3's popularity could be its downfall. If its massive success has AT&T concerned about people cheating the system with the international version they could be tracking i9300 IMEI's alone. There have been no reports of any issues on the international One X or G-Tab forums and quite a few of us are on dumb-phone plans. Hell, I hit 7GB of data last month w/o being throttled because HTC Watch had a $.50 sale. Whether this is a big deal or not and the beginning of a trend will only be known with time.
[Galaxy S III General] thegameksk:
How would a brand new ATNT customer attempt to get this deal?
[Galaxy S III General] IFireflyl:
Buy an international samsung galaxy s3. Follow the steps from the OP.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
That's another possibility, but something we can't pace together without someone gathering all the data up for those that got caught.

For me I got my SIM from my HTC One X just to share.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
well I will give it a shot in a couple of weeks.. maybe it's just effecting people who are just now trying to get on the media net package? people who have been on it longer maybe dont have the issue? I will get my phone in a couple of weeks and give it a shot. But I'm wondering if I should give them an IMEI to a dumb phone I have and then make the sim switch or if I should give them the gs3 IMEI. It seems like the early adapters gave their gs3 imei and others were flagged when they did.. So I'm not sure how I will approch it yet
[Galaxy S III General] phoniedev:
AT&T and i9300 firmware options

I just received the international gt-i9300 yesterday. I've purchased an international phone or two before and used them fine (out-of-the box) with AT&T; these previous phones we're sold by US importers and explicitly advertised as compatible with AT&T. My new S3 did not explicitly say AT&T compatible, but was also a US import company.

I wanted to go through the phone before I add my SIM card. I noticed in the App menu and app called "Updates" which displays text in Romanian (a confirmation dialog, for which I click "no" and exit), and I do not know for certain what it is. The App Manager info says it refrences com.vodafone.vodafone360updates package. From this info, I infer that my new S3 is/was originally a Romanian Vodafone version, and that the Updates app is most likely Vodafone bloatware. But since I don't speak Romanian and I'm not a cellular service provider I can only speculate.

Now for the gurus here, I have three questions:

1) Nothin' against the Romanians, I love Dracula and all, but whenever former Eastern-bloc countries spring up, I immediately bring up my firewall computer-wise. So, since the seal on my S3 box was broken and I want to use this phone as my main email client (20+ accounts), VPNing into home/work networks, etc I would assume that flashing/downloading a firmware to my phone would remove any potential malware which may have surreptitiously been installed. Is this correct?

2) I looked at the available (official) firmware, and the current european list is huge. Since I've never needed to flash a phone myself before, which firmware is appropriate for my i9300 to use AT&T (western United States)? Specifically, which country, unbranded, or if branded which service provider, etc.

3) I would eventually like full root access to my phone for network monitoring, pentesting, and general linux goodness - what firmware should I use in this case (for the i9300)? CyanogenMod9? Or is that something else...

FYI This is my first Android device, so I am unfamiliar with the OS and common tools. If you mention something Android device/S3 specific (eg, like Odin) please briefly explain what it is (eg, firmware flasher/downloader), or offer a link to it, so I don't wonder why you're bringing up Norse Gods in your explanation.
[Galaxy S III General] ficklecycler:
Would anyone who is currently doing this mind giving me a cost breakdown of their services?

I hear ya that we can get $10-15 data, but what is the cheapest you can get out the door with minutes and all? I haven't seen that covered yet, but (please forgive) I can't read a 77 page thread to try and dig that up.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Get the cheapest dumb phone plan with data for $15, WITHOUT unlimited text. Have them completely deactivate SMS for you so you won't risk getting a charge. Download and install google voice for SMS.

That's the bare bones. Or go with straight talk for $45 a month.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Something else I think can be a personal bias of an account or something.

I pay quite a bit since there are 4 lines, and we did have 2 smartphones, 1400 minutes, etc. We've also been with AT&T for about 10 or more years. So I think they might just pass us on by.

It's really a luck game at this point, but maybe this topic being so hot and popular didn't help at all. Probably got their attention of how many SGS3 guys are interested in this plan.
[Galaxy S III General] vinuneuro:
You should have asked what IMEI they had. More than likely the rep was referring to your ATT phone. I went from a One X to iPhone 2g to SIII in a month. In my experience their system doesn't update that quickly from their auto-detection of the IMEI.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Thank you sir, had no idea my company was a Premier partner. Converting my account now. :)
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
Here are the terms in case anyone's interested. It's funny that they still reference such old phones. The screen cap is from today. The 30% off retail for purchasing a non-contract handset's a pretty good deal too if you want an AT&T phone. That makes the U.S. SGS3 $385.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Interesting, it said I qualify for Premier discounts after entering in my company E-mail addy. But when I try to register my existing number as a Premier customer, it says it's an "Individual Responsibility User (IRU)" so I don't qualify for Premier services. Must be some middle tier that only gets you corporate discounts but doesn't get the "individual agent support" you mentioned, bah!