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[HTC One S] icecicle:
Yea I don't mind the multitasking too much cause the reload always brings it back when I pull it up... But the flickering gets annoying especially after I downloaded switch key keyboard it flicks a lot more I've noticed
[HTC One S] CrankyBear:
Same here

I'm going under the same dilemma. My full discount takes effect on the 16th, so I'll be at T-mo on that day. I originally wanted the 1S, because I currently have the Vibrant which left a bad taste in my mouth due to the GPS issues and constant lagging issues. My wife has one as well and has all sorts of performance issues. However, the non-removable battery is what frightens me, especially since my main fallback on a frozen phone is to remove and reinstall the battery. What happens if the 1S freezes? I've also heard NUMEROUS reports of the 1S getting uncomfortably hot. It was even pointed out in Engadget's review. So lately I've been angling back to the GS3.

But now, T-Mo is having a Father's Day sale 6/15-6/16, and there's a 90% chance that the 1S will be free on those days, which causes me to reconsider yet again.

WTF do I DO?!!
[HTC One S] mantiis:
Yes, if you turn on the GPS for directions and navigation, it gets stupid hot. Like wrote this would burn me if I stick it on my leg hot.

That really bothers me because I have a metal piece glued on to the back for my car mount and it fell off.. Gorilla glue to the zagg back. I think the heat weakened the glue. Not cool.
[HTC One S] nikzDHD:
Well I've got the HOX and the SGS3. Won't get to play with the HOS until my sister get's it on Tuesday so can post a comparison next week. But in regards to HOX vs SGS3 I'm keeping my HOX.

Why?

- Better screen,

- Better camera, lower aperture,

- Sense is better despite being a memory hog,

- Better build,

- Better looking,

- Better speaker,

And a few other things, those are just my subjective views.

The SGS3 excels in:

- Removable battery allowing for an extended batery in future,

- Storage expansion,

- Slightly better audio out via headphones,

- TW more optimised,

- Better video recording,

- LED notification light has more third party options to customise,

Despite the pluses of the SGS3 I still like HTC and the matte unibody finish. Over at the SGS3 section users were asking me even though the SGS3 is better why am I still keeping the HOX? My answer cos I love it! Both are great phones including the HOS.
[HTC One S] s10shane:
well i think the GS3 has more features (removable sd card and battery, nfc chip, 4.8 inch 720p display and 2GBs ram) but the one s looks way better. i will probably just return my one s right before the s3 comes out. i hate touchwiz but come on, this is why we root our phones and try different roms. i am sure there will be a stock ics rom somewhere along the way or cm9. if the gs3 cost the same as what i paid for my htc one s then there is no doubt the one s is gone. its a good phone but the no sd card is killing me. i only have maybe 2gbs left since we only get 10gbs. with backing up roms, music, pictures, hd video and some music videos on my phone it eats up the gbs real quick. i know there is dropbox and google music which uses the cloud but the cloud sucks when u only get 2g or crappy 3g in the area u are trying to access the files or whatever. just wish we at least got the one x and a 32gb model of it. also tired of the wifi calling issues dropping, crackling sounds during calls, no signal and reboots.
[HTC One S] kajukas:
is this issues is on HTC ONE S ? Maybe u have a faulty one ? I can't decide between S3 and ONE S. S3 is a bit large for my hand :) never had a smartphone before. So HTC ONE S is looking perfect for me as my first good smartphone. But sometimes people reports various issues like rebooting, bad call quality, and etc.. dont know what to choose
[HTC One S] nikzDHD:
Why not the HTC One X as that's the nearest competitor to the SGS3?
[HTC One S] kajukas:
i think it's to big. The size of ONE X is almost as S3 ? So S3 is the winner here.
[HTC One S] fsamoggia:
samsung is better than htc

The phone is not the only thing you have to consider. Customer service is very important. HTC is well known to have the worst and most incompetent customer service you can ever deal with, at least in Italy.

Based on my long experience of htc phones, (desire, incredible s, one s) 2 out od 3 were giving me problens of rebooting randomly. The incredible s, despite the fact of being a single core phone, was far more reliable than the one s.

So at this stage the customer support would have to play its role, and do it well to keep a customer like me. But the only thing they are able to say is "reset your phone" and "your warranty has expired because you unlocked the bootloader". Technically are highly incompetent and pointless to ring them up for a suggestion.

I never tried samsung customer service, but it can not be worse than what I have described up here.

Go for the sgs3, although I would wait 3 or 4 more months to allow samsung to include all the hardware modifications that will surely happen (transparent to the user, such as mother board revisions, component upgrades, etc) and that always happen when a new product comes into the market so quickly.

Good luck,

Franco
[Galaxy S I9000 General] here is johnny:
Read this!

http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/06...k-android-to-shame-on-ti-pandaboard-omap4430/

Video on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mrQRYmYip6Q
[Galaxy S I9000 General] GIBbeerSKY:
Good news from second comment:

"CM people can obviously pick up what we’ve done – so can Google, we’ll be submitting the changes to AOSP shortly." :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bvt-1:
SGS + Linaro = SGS3 - :D:D:D​
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mohammad13:
wow ...

that would be great ...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
I knew that Android is bad-coded :D!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gokussjx:
Found these.....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27045594

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27045119

http://www.androidauthority.com/linaro-android-is-up-to-twice-as-fast-as-stock-android-92831/

http://www.linaro.org/linaro-blog/2012/04/30/linaro-android-running-on-galaxy-nexus/

[YOUTUBE]mrQRYmYip6Q[/YOUTUBE]

How to do it:

Here's the GIT Link: http://android.git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=kernel/panda.git;a=summary

Damn the world, if this comes to I9000! :eek:

This is a revolution!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
I've already asked DerTeufel if he could take a look at the kernel sources :D. But it only speeds up parts of the system.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] senotrius:
@goku can u provide link to download the KB3 modem.since u have tried all others in India.

on topic:@stratosk and krarvind,hope u guys are following this.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] j3tz3:
hmm veeery interesting......:)

+20xp, post added
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jelle2503:
+1 million XP has been added to your account

I hope something useful comes out of this for our beloved i9000. And ofcourse Android in general. These guys are pro!

nice find man, got me really pumped, that things STILL can get better for our old device, but maybe I shouldn't be pumped since maybe there's nothing to gain for us.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kunjar:
Android really is a piece of **** im surprised it even functions at all. Next device will be a Windows Phone, this by far is the smoothest interaction i've ever experienced with a smart phone. Hopefully more apps will be available.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Big LOL to you.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mnazim:
SGS GT-i9000 KB3 Modem
[Galaxy S I9000 General] slaphead20:
Class :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] omkarsansare:
wow
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gokussjx:
Those answers are better PMed ;)

Peace.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bozosniper:
lol have fun with your next senior phone with windows mobile, i hope you can make much calls with it and send many text massages because WM is very limited for the rest:D

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S with Tapatalk.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mohammad13:
is ther any one working to port this for i9000 ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jelle2503:
Cm9 gerrit code review is full of linaro commits.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bhu1:
Hahaha....who didn't saw that coming!! ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Wololo7:
Waiting patiently...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rikul:
If linaro speeds up system parts then it would consume more battery?? Or i may be wrong..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ballsofsteel:
Given that it takes less time to complete tasks I think in the end there would be more energy conserved than wasted.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] geokilla:
Makes sense in a way. Way too fragmented. Us "high-end phone users" don't experience this problem but I know friends who have low-end Android phones and they absolutely hate it. Not all the phones out there have custom ROM and CM9 support.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
You see it as fragmented, I see it as "choice", some girl don't want to waste 800$ for a smartphone, but they can pay 150$ to have, also a smartphone but slower.

You pay for less, you have less, and they know it and don't complain.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
Indeed the open source community hasn't been able to find any improvements to make in WM or iOS code!! Because they are so perfect obviously. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] geokilla:
Maybe in your country yes. But here in Canada, unless we pay big bucks (like $60) per month for 3 years, don't except to get a good phone at a subsidized cost. Not everyone is willing to drop $600 all at once on a phone, then spend another $50/month on a good plan. Not everyone can get by on a $10/month plan either, especially when they're so bare bones, unless you're talking about the new AWS carriers.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jelle2503:
0611 nightly has what i believe are linaro related commits merged. The ones related to aliasing violation.

And ive seen devil trying to compile with linaro toolchain. He is trying too :D

Edit: yup they are linaro related. Here is the guy submitting linaro code to cm9 :)

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/17360/

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
No, not yet, they're fixing the strict pointer alias, which will enable the ability to use O3 with gcc 4.7, their toolchain wasn't got merged yet, you guys should expect for the next 1 or 2 weeks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kasper_h:
There is some code being merged, but the real interesting stuff is still under review:

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/17444/

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/17446/

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/17358/

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/17380/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaapteeuw12:
So we will have linaro Rom and Kernel in the next weeks??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lexrsk:
semaphore 1.2.3 is useing parts of the linaro code and semaphore GB kernels used the code as well
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
But GB version uses old linaro code.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] calum96:
Wow this looks awesome can't wait! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kunjar:
Linaro will turn out to be nothing but hype just like upgrading from 2.2 Froyo to 2.3 Gingerbread. What an utter piece of **** 2.3 was.

Linaro code and optimizations might help to render a cube quicker than stock Android OS but what does this equate to in terms of real word performance or usage? Probably nothing. Don't expect some magically improved i9000 due to a few code optimizations.

You Android fan boys are living in some cyber realm only.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
Excited for a new optimization is not "Android fan boys", you troll should live in a swarm with no life.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kasper_h:
Although kunjar doesn't put it nicely, there is some truth in what he say: I also don't believe in Linaro magic. If we are lucky, we have some slight improvement. But nothing immense (Linaro code can speed up Android like 10 times!) to be expected if you ask me :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ballsofsteel:
While I don't believe in this "linaro magic" either I'm still convinced that Android is some pretty badly coded stuff. I mean look at the obvious competitor out there-iOS. The iPhone 4, being almost a direct copy in terms of hardware in comparison with SGS is far superior in user experience without all this flashing and stuff. Not to mention the iPhone 4 is powering a higher res display with inferior specs and still manages to edge out the SGS.

As primitive as it is, iOS is some very well coded stuff. Android is not.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] killcraft:
something that roman said in the 39 build aokp changelog :

a note about linaro (warning, tech mumbo jumbo ahead)

These builds do NOT include the new Linaro optimizations. The optimizations don't increase the speed of Android by 100%, nor do they inject butter. They use a newer toolchain to compile Android, which has more optimizations. The Linaro people have also made the proper changes in Android code to allow builds to be compiled with -O3 instead of -O2 flags (think of it as another pass of code optimizations).

Please do not ask us whether we will include them in the future. We like speed as much as the next guy, but we want to make sure that it doesn't break ANYTHING. When/if it's ready, you'll know.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] senotrius:
+1.rightly said.badly coded indeed.the potential is huge actually with android and sgs.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
It's not, iPhone has only one line of phone with only one manufacturer, and they use native app with smaller memory footprint and better performance, also they have limited multitasking ability, so the performance will not be hurt with constant background service

Android, in otherhand, need to support many hardware at once, so they have to use dalvik code instead of native, this results more performance hurt, but mantain compatbility between phone.

So, each platform has its own advantages, nothing new.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] muzicfreako:
Rightly said. True in all sense. Plus iOS has nothing like Launchers and Widgets which saves a lot of RAM. And multitasking is just a joke on iOS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rikul:
This forum is not IOS VS ANDROID... DONT TALK OF IOS IN THIS THREAD.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] slacka123:
I don't expect a miracle, but every little bit helps. A few percent here and there, can really add up. My phone definitely runs faster then it did out of the box with 2.2. I'm not sure if it's the extra free RAM or all the all the little tweaks like this, but now some games like Riptide that were choppy as hell before are now smooth as glass with AOKP
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rikul:
FOR ALL THOSE WHO THINK LINARO IS A JOKE - just think " are all devs mad ?"

All the devs are smarter than you and know linaro is effective
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bhu1:
I dont think anyone said linaro is a joke, but it is a joke to claim that it will increase performance by 100%+ or will increase the performance 10fold. It will surely increase performance but I think that it will be only noticeable on old and slow phones like ours. Codeworkxx already claimed that he didn't noticed any increase on the s3 at all. There is no point is getting mad for linaro and spam any dev team's threads or tweet them like mad.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
Old phone?!?! ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] oswade:
Whilst I agree that it probably won't make any magic difference, I also believe that every small difference/optimisation counts. Together they can make a noticably better phone :)

+ we must always keep hope for our old galaxies...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BlackLeader787:
I eagerly await a final CM9 Linaro on GT-I9000 :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
And I take already 60 fps from this benchmark on stock rom stock kernel.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bhu1:
Get real. Its old. Ever used a dual core ?? This **** in front of those.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
Latest games still running on our phone. No need for a new phone, besides you want to calculate the trillionst number of π.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] senotrius:
exactly.android not exactly utilizing multi cores like PC softwares.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bhu1:
Game runs on our phone. That's totally true. But are they playable. Ask yourself if temple runs any where near as good as sgs2 stock rom . I know trazillion cores is just stupidity but we I need a phone with a better processor, whether its a higher clocked single core or dual core.

U can anything u want, dual core androids run faster than single core ones. AND THATS A FACT.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Unrealwolf:
SGS1 problem is memory, not CPU or GPU. Amount of fast system memory is very limited, amount of RAM is quite low, no Linaro would ever help that, SGS will be as slow as it is now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
Temple run is badly coded. Nova runs smoothly and it's a bigger game.

Actually, you can let a few apps run at the same time without problems. If you use the long press back button to kill app feature, there won't be too many opened apps, some apps can be closed without lose of speed, they start fastly, and during hard gaming you don't do anything else. Just the users that think they need a newer phone, coz they are produced that fast.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
It's not "badly coded". As the phone hardware evolve, devs will spend less time to optimize their game to do other thing like new game or new content, this is bad for older phone, but our phone is nearly three years old anyway.

And Linaro *may* help us with memory, we just have to wait.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
First you say it isn't badly coded, then you say they didn't optimize it :D. I'm already running latest gummy nightly with linaro, quadrant gives slightly increased GPU performance. But it can't give you more RAM.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
No its utilizing since thats linux kernel feature.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lerkin:
Guys from LG p500 thread managed to fully compile CM9 kang with linaro. Users report 10-30% higher performance in benchmarks and smoother experience. I feel jealous.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TotallydubbedHD:
I'm now using my S3...but would love to see linaro "used" on i9000 - just to see what it gives.

I don't know if it will really affect performance that much, but any slight improvement is good, but at what cost.

And by that I mean, battery life.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
Linux kernel only help with thread/process scheduler, but if the application and the SDK doesn't take advantages of it, so it won't use all the core, that's the case with Android now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] .:Crack:.:
Try latest Gummy Nightlies
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_knight35:
I used it, and like I already wrote, there seems to be a slide improvement, a very, very slide...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] .:Crack:.:
Yeah, thats why I'm telling them to try it. It's just a slight improvement (damnit -.-) not something like 30% imo...

But maybe not everything is working correctly (foolish hope :D) ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bravomail:
Linaro is Neon optimized

There was once manually optimized for Neon stdlibc published for Froyo. It was superfast. It broke videoplayer. It didn't work in GB or ICS.

Problem is - there's no good compiler with -O3 support or with Neon support. And noone knows if it's compiler or bad chip implementation.

I think Linaro is able to utilize more of Neon instructions and optimizations. If so - good for everyone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
Neon is a processor instruction, like SSE in x86 world, nothing we can optimize about it, we call it by access the instruction directly

Library that is Neon optimized is the library that use Neon, not the Neon optimized by compiler
[Galaxy S I9000 General] senotrius:
yup.application.but can't blame developers.not easy to develop for different types of multi cores with different ram,resolutions and what not our beloved multi fragmented android has.:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
Sure, it just likes Windows, it takes time for new feature to avaiable to most device, and then dev have to use it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kasper_h:
Linaro has been cancelled...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] oswade:
???

What do you mean and source?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
Check CM gerrit .
[Galaxy S I9000 General] oswade:
Ah you mean for cm9. I misunderstood. That is not too unexpected since they said that they will not incorporate it if it makes things less stable :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kasper_h:
My message wasn't very clear either :)

I suppose some custom ROM/kernel builders will still choose to include it in their own builds.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
The problem is, the optimize isn't very noticable, so they won't risk changing to much the device tree just to get it done.

So we have to wait for AOSP, I doubt that linaro will be included in AOSP though, it also not worth the trouble
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kasper_h:
AOSP is expected to move to GCC-4.6. CM will probably do the same.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
But I don't think they will use linaro toolchain or O3 flag.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ts.shay:
Later today, I will be testing F4k's ICS ROM for our dear I9000. His r4 is a test build compiled with Linaro Toolchain 4.7.1.. I am hoping for the best. ^.~;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Entropy512:
Even the prepwork for Linaro has been breaking stuff right and left.

And the OP is, honestly, an idiot for somehow translating a 100% improvement in ONE SINGLE BENCHMARK (which is of an operation that is rarely used in normal operations) to "ten times"... On most operations, the Linaro optimizations deliver no improvement whatsoever.

The Linaro optimizations will get people not much more than obscure bugs and instability - most of the performance critical stuff is in binary blobs which can't be recompiled on most devices.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DerTeufel1980:
i have created two identical kernel, one without linaro, and the other compiles with. here you can go, for comparing them:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27789686
[Galaxy S I9000 General] superkoal:
+1 placebo.

I don't believe in general speed optimizations by compiler toolchains, as I have quite some experience in uC programming, where I researched exact the same question years ago (of course not w. linaro).

My conclusion: maybe some speed optimizations in some specific operations, but only for the cost of less speed in other places.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RickyBO89:
agreed.

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/17444/

I'm happy to see devs know the difference between working/not working stuff and usefull/useless things (IMHO linaro is the second option both times)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] M.WeWe:
Hi

i don't know if this is the right section

I intend to sell my phone

Htc ChaCha ( Status)

and buying this one here

Sony Ericsson Xperia mini pro

but first i need to know some things

1- can i install cyanogenmod to this phone?

which version ?

what bugs it have ?

support Arabic?

2- how is the battery life?

3- Is the camera In (Xperia mini pro) better than (chacha)?

4- is the sound in (Xperia mini pro) better than (chacha)?

============

sorry for my bad English

============​
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] XperianPro:
To all answers yes and about CM you can install 7 or 9 and they shouldnt have any bugs because of relased ICS from Sony for all phones.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] GIPAQ:
Hi All,

I am not a developer and I was wondering if its possible with the new SDK from Heathcliff74 and the fully unlocked roms to develop an application that will use sounds to alert us of a new "missed call", "sms", "calendar event" and so on... This must be customizable as to how many times to alert us, what sound to use, maybe a scheduler for this to run. The alert should go off as soon as you see the missed call or read the new sms.

I think a utility like this will be very useful. What do you think??? Any developers out there that can give us some info if this is possible?

If this is posted to the wrong place please move.

Thanks. GIPAQ
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ariey:
Sound looks great ---> I think we use event toast notification with sound alert for Miss call, Fully charge battery, and etc