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[Galaxy S III General] grande25:
So... Would this work?

Okay, really interested but I have a different scenario and have read the entire thread twice or more times over and have yet to see a really clear answer.

Will this work?

1. Not currently on any plan with anyone

2. Take ATT micro-simcard out of an iphone 4s purchased on ebay and put it in the int'l galaxy s3

3. Dial 611

4. Ask operator to open a wireless line with 'non smart phone unlimited data' as I'm not using an at&t smart phone. Would I have to add a pay as I go voice line at least temporarily since I'm a newbie user?

5. Provided the imei number from gs3

Would I just pay $15 for unlimited text/data on the non-smartphone plan?

One other question on the AT&T coverage... will it follow me wherever I go? I'm in Georgia but will travel all over including Alaska. I read one promising post where an iphone 4s user in Anchorage, Alaska was getting 7 Mbits/s on HSPA+ so would be nice if that data plan just worked wherever I was. Of course, if this works my plan would be to just use google voice for calls.

This is my first post. I'm enjoying reading the forums and this particular thread has taught me a lot. Jones'n for my first smart phone. The iphone purchase was for my wife. I've been in the IT field (or fringes of it) for 20 years... long overdue for a decent phone and really looking forward to quenching the thirst... hopefully will keep the S3 int'l version for a few years.

Thank you
[Galaxy S III General] HaruSoul:
Just dropping in to say this is still working for me since last Friday, haven't been bumped off yet.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
And you won't be....
[Galaxy S III General] Husam2011:
Also, is it possible to get pay as you go minutes with this data plan? so it will cost $15 + pay as you go minutes?
[Galaxy S III General] grande25:
Flame War/Hi-Jacking

ceo.mtcl or any other knowledgeable contributor... Any reply to my on-topic question a few posts back? Would be nice if anyone's not too busy with the flame war/hi-jacking of this thread.
[Galaxy S III General] incisivekeith:
I would appreciate if someone can comment whether the unlimited data plan can be obtained on an international Galaxy Note. There was a pointer to this thread from a thread in the Note forum.

I am already on Att's $25/month, 1 GB data plan, and frankly, it always makes me wary of using data as 1 GB is not much. My voice plan is the gophone unlimited talk and text plan which is $50/month. Thanks.

Stock ICS LQ2, LPT Modem, Speedmod k3-3 kernel, AT&T
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
It should work. Follow the process outlined in the first post and let us know.
[Galaxy S III General] jayharper08:
Thread cleaned. I suggest if you want to flame or troll then take it to pm so everyone doesn't see how childish you are. Warning this time....

---Jay--- From the Nexus
[Galaxy S III General] NA 521":
Can you get away with tethering on the $10 unlimited data plan?
[Galaxy S III General] BuddyLee:
yes, the unlimited media net plan ... consider it as a plan for people who are not expected to use more than 100mb a month. So by att there arent any monitoring with those users ... so you are able to use gigs upon gigs per month.

remember users who dont have smartphones now on att are in the minority.

this is my past years usage ...
[Galaxy S III General] onmike:
I've looked over some of this thread and one thing I'm wondering is the pros/cons on getting:

Unlocked international vs AT&T phone at full price and getting a carrier unlock.

I don't care about LTE. I have an iPhone 4S now and HSPA+ is fast enough for my use.

I don't remember fully, but last year I briefly (one day) had the AT&T Galaxy SII and I didn't like how they included some apps I couldn't delete.

From the OP I picked up that Development Support is Great for International Phone. I also see about the data plan.

I've seen the quad core vs dual and 1GB vs 2GB ram.

My gut is saying go unlocked int, even for future resale. Not sure if there is anything else I'm missing.

edit..

Will be going int unlocked. Was ignoring data plan since I didn't want to lose unlimited in the event I switched back to a non int phone. Can either add messaging unlimited and unlimited data for the same $30 I'm paying now, or just keep txt blocked and save $15.
[Galaxy S III General] NA 521":
I have a feeling that's what my usage will look like! So were you tethering during some of that usage? I'm just wondering if ATT has some way of telling if you're tethering other than just watching the amount downloaded.

I'll be uploading a lot, too (torrents). Is that a problem?
[Galaxy S III General] BuddyLee:
Tethering, torrents etc ... been doing this for years since the xperia x1i. Att probably does know who does what, but the amount of users who use medianet isnt substantial ... and even the users who use the medianet like us, are the minority to the minorities.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Impressed!
[Galaxy S III General] the2rrell:
I am on a family plan with my mother, and she has the LTE note.....i HAD/HAVE the note still but i want to change over to the Median Unlimited for my SGS3.

will just changing my line effect her account too, or just my line and the new plan.

i dont want to put her in any bind, and will just start up another at&t account and change my number over to the new one.

i plan on doing this today<<<<
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
It will only effect your line. If you change to the media net on your line, whatever data package you have on other lines stays the same.
[Galaxy S III General] bscotth:
Hello all,

First of all, big thanks to the OP for this workaround. It worked for me without any issues. Unlimited Data feels like a whole new world coming from the 2GB plan on AT&T.

Moving on, does anyone think there are any issues with our User Agent popping up in AT&T's system? For instance, it has been noted several times on XDA that AT&T monitors User Agents for combating mass tethering. If they ever use that method on us "Non-smartphone" users, our user agents will scream "Android4.0" which is indeed, a very smart phone ;) Any thoughts? Perhaps some framework tweaks to manually change our user agent? (Great tutorial here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1265213). I may be acting overly cautious.

Nevertheless, unlimited data is worth that kind of risk!

Thanks again OP!
[Galaxy S III General] the2rrell:
^^^this is what i was worried about, but others have had success for years. so im jumping aboard and seeing what happens. i just didnt want to effect my mothers account in long run IF they decide to check up on things.

thanks for the input fellas made my choice real easy
[Galaxy S III General] PuffinNugz:
Did a quick search and didn't see this addressed...

Has everyone that did this decided that you will ALWAYS be happy with these speeds? Because once you give up your smartphone "unlimited" plan, you can never get it back. (unless the iphone trick STILL works).

That's what happened to me a couple years ago. I went from unlimited with my Tilt(smartphone) to unlimited on an Eternity (dumbphone). They wouldn't give me unlimited smartphone back when I got my Captivate, only the 2GB plan. Did the iphone trick, so all is well, but I'd imagine they would eventually close that loophole.

I would consider doing this, but I don't want to lose my smartphone "unlimited".
[Galaxy S III General] brekec88:
What's the iPhone trick?
[Galaxy S III General] caulton:
indeed i woild like to kno this trick aswell :D
[Galaxy S III General] the2rrell:
if you can get your hands on an old Iphone, you supposedly can activate with an unlimited plan due to signing up for itunes or something like that.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Nah, that hasn't worked for a while now. Once you put your SIM in an iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4 or 4S they flag it within seconds.
[Galaxy S III General] nullcline:
Slight detraction from the AT&T talk, but this is also an international phone thread...

So I'm looking at getting the S3 from Newegg which appears to be the international version (Exynos 4212 Quad)... but I would like to use the phone on Straight Talk perhaps with their T-Mobile SIM. Is this phone compatible with T-Mobile's HSPA+ network? I'm not interested in gambling with what AT&T could claim as fraud with this neat dumbphone data trick, and I do need plain reliable calling capability.

Sorry if this is obvious to everyone else but I find it difficult to trust radio band specs for this especially after the Galaxy Note requiring new buggy modems being flashed to work on T-Mobile at > EDGE speeds.

Thanks in advance for any information on this!
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
I wonder if we can do this over online chat also.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I didn't get that ...
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
It's probably easier to do it over the phone anyways, when they ask what kind of phone is it. Just say it's a nokia or something.
[Galaxy S III General] Zabalba:
Yes. I deleted my APN after changing the plan and then restored using the built in settings within the SIM

I would like to compare.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Sure, but we can get away by just hiding the fact and saying that "we don't know, some Samsung phone". They really don't care as long as it is not at&t smart phone. :-P
[Galaxy S III General] americasteam:
Disregard post.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I respect your opinion. At least we got to know that there are some people on xda who don't really care for unlocked boot loaders. You fit perfectly in the discussion and I thank you for contributing.
[Galaxy S III General] varunkumars:
Hey buddy could you post me your APN settings(configuration) i am on the same plan with Galaxy S3 and i get only 1.5Mbps download 256kbps upload. At least a screenshot would do.

And yes i totally agree with you. I bought International S2 last year and International S3. Well, but i don't want to generalize this as this is what i personally feel. And the fuss about the RAM is not true. It is something to do with the browser i believe.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Sure. I'll update the apn settings in the second post.

Edit: done
[Galaxy S III General] rAmO1984:
BTW, in your point "1.1", the upgrade fee has been $36 for a few months now. I know it's somewhat trivial but just pointing it out :p
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
I wasn't even talking about you or quoting you so don't be so quick to get offended.
[Galaxy S III General] americasteam:
Sorry, my bad. :(
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
It's all good in the hood. Hopefully we early adopters can figure out all the bugs in touchwiz for you guys.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Yes. We can't go wrong with Samsung's flagship phone. I'm in love with my phone.
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
ok so i just called lastnight to change the data plan...should i have given them gs3's ime number? cause it all worked but today for some reason they changed me back to a 30 data plan....what did i do wrong to make them change it back???
[Galaxy S III General] farfromovin:
Just curious exactly "how unlimited" the $10 dumbphone plan is. I mean, it's obviously smarter to just do that and use it leisurely to watch a few youtube videos, browse, etc... But "what if" you tethered and downloaded say 100GB of data in a month? Shouldn't be hard with 50mbps download speeds lol. That's 20mbps faster than my cable connection! My point is, do you think you'd pop up on the radar or do they just not observe the bandwidth useage on those accounts at all? Maybe nobody outside of ATT knows. Just curious.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
That's strange. I've been using it continuously, used about a gig since yesterday, downloaded omega Rom, even tethered internet to many laptop. Try switching it again.

This time when you call then do ask them what kind of phone do they see on your account.
[Galaxy S III General] dkotoric:
Weird i have been doing this for 4 months now with no problema and have ownes a galaxy note, galaxy nexus, gs2, htc one x now and ill bw getting a gs3 soon, did u call them to ask why they switched u

Sent from my HTC One X
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
It's not 50mbps. Max I've gotten is 6-7 mbps. And I've done up to 15gb a month without experiencing any issues.
[Galaxy S III General] lunercrab:
no not yet...again is it because i gave them my dumbphone's ime number instead of the actual gs3 ime number?
[Galaxy S III General] enkur:
dont get the T-Mobile SIM for Straight Talk to use on the International SGS3 instead ask for the AT&T sim only then you will have HSPA+. The T-mobile uses a different frequency and with the international SGS3 you will only get Edge which is a disaster.
[Galaxy S III General] the2rrell:
Yes dont do it. wait for the tmo version if you are going to use tmo
[Galaxy S III General] PuffinNugz:
Ataully, I thought it HAD to be an original iphone 2g. That's what I used for mine. The only way you could get the original iphone was to get unlimited data and to do that you would have to activate it through itunes. It was a process, but it worked.

edit: looks like people still sell that service on ebay. except a year or so ago, they were only charging $30 to do it. Now it's $200+.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=at&t+unlimited+data&_sacat=0

edit again: guess i did it when i got the SGS2, not the captivate. Here is a link to the thread with instructions. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1342859
[Galaxy S III General] incisivekeith:
I was asking more in terms of how it would work when I am already on a data plan for smartphones, and they have an imei assigned to my account.

If I changed the imei to that of a dumb phone, will my Note still be able to access all smartphone functionality over the unlimited data plan?

What if I don't have a dumb phone's imei?

Stock ICS LQ2, LPT Modem, Speedmod k3-3 kernel, AT&T
[Galaxy S III General] grande25:
I have a different scenario and have read the entire thread twice or more times over and have yet to see a really clear answer.

Will this work?

1. Not currently on any plan with anyone

2. Take ATT micro-simcard out of an iphone 4s purchased on ebay and put it in the int'l galaxy s3. Does the SIM card previously in a smartphone cause any problems now that it is in an int'l s3?

3. Dial 611

4. Ask operator to open a wireless line with 'non smart phone unlimited data' as I'm not using an at&t smart phone. Would I have to add a pay as I go voice line at least temporarily since I'm a newbie user?

5. Provided the imei number from gs3

Would I just pay $15 for unlimited text/data on the non-smartphone plan?

One other question on the AT&T coverage... will it follow me wherever I go? I'm in Georgia but will travel all over including Alaska. I read one promising post where an iphone 4s user in Anchorage, Alaska was getting 7 Mbits/s on HSPA+ so would be nice if that data plan just worked wherever I was. Of course, if this works my plan would be to just use google voice for calls.

Thank you
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Since the seller is going to need the SIM card for their new phone there is a 99.9% chance that it isn't going to have a SIM card in it at all anyway. Even if it does (because the seller got a new SIM card), the one in the phone will be no good and will not be able to be reactivated.

So, now you need to re-think your strategy.
[Galaxy S III General] grande25:
Thanks Baldilocks, I already had the iphone and sim in-hand when I made my post. My S3 int'l is in the mail so I'll figure something out one way or another.

One thing I found odd was that my home phone number was shown when I plugged in the att sim to my wife's iPhone and the new straight talk sim showed the straight talk number. It's possible the ebay seller registered my home number from sales info... or... the sim is dead/blank and the home number was residual from my wife updating some basic info (not sure she did that..). Maybe I can test the mysterious att sim further after I plug it into the S3.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Changing your line affects only your line.

That's the exact same reason you are not in trouble. You can always have a java based browser that can fake a android 4.0 user agent on a dumb phone. So you still have a benefit of doubt that you are having a dumb phone but are using a user agent of smart phone.

it will work... for at least sometime. if it doesn't after an year or so... sell it to get the new nexus :p

if you already have an unlimited data for 30bucks then I'd think twice before changing it because it is hard to get it back.

it's a trick which uses iphone 2g to get unlimited smartphone data. It only works with iphone 2g. I don't know if it still works though. You need a new unactivated sim card and a used iphone 2G reset to factory settings for this.

T mobile on international phone is a big no no. Go with at&t frequencies.

Sent from Rooted debloated stock Galaxy S3 OG I9300
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Just walk into an at&t store and get a new one.

Sent from Rooted debloated stock Galaxy S3 OG I9300
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Good comparison here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1721225
[Galaxy S III General] imnothimm:
Great write up, very informative.

Contemplating getting the International Version and doing this.. Quick question though. Where can I get it insured in the US? Square trade does not cover international phones right?
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
They wrote up a policy on mine....
[Galaxy S III General] imnothimm:
One more question. Is it possible to set up a post-paid plan with AT&T without signing a two year contrac?
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
That, I'm not sure of.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
You may want to call att for all account related questions.
[Galaxy S III General] Brockg:
just ordered my Int'l version S3... question, can i just go into AT&T and ask for a microsim? Will they ask me for my phone model or will they give it to me no questions asked? Would rather not go through trouble of cutting my regular sim.

Thanks,
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Just ask for a MicroSIM, then take it home and activate it.
[Galaxy S III General] jpalmerlee:
Okay! I'm sold on getting this phone! I was hoping for some help to make sure I do this whole process correctly.

My current situation:

iPhone 4 on contract with AT&T with upgrade option available.

What I want to do:

Buy a Galaxy SIII on AmazonWireless, and renew my contract for 2 years. I can get the phone for 150$ with the plan which is why I want to do this.

I also want to buy the international Galaxy S III.

After I get both of these phones do I need to take my iPhone 4 into AT&T with the AT&T branded Galaxy S3, and have them switch it over then do the carrier unlock for the iPhone (which AT&T does once off contract.)

After they switch me over to the AT&T galaxy SIII I then pop the SIM card and put it into my INTERNATIONAL SIII and follow the method listed in this thread to get the unlimited data?

After that can I unlock the AT&T Galaxy S3 and sell it? I also plan on selling the iPhone 4 and making a little profit off this whole venture! lol. I appreciate your help on this matter!
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
This is what I'll do.

1. Buy amazon wireless sg3 and sell it. Get money in pocket.

2. Use that money to buy international gs3.

3. Once international gs3 arrives sell iPhone and walk in to the att store, get a new micro SD card and continue following the op.

You can also use your iPhone sim card to do this and only if it gives you trouble you may need to go to att store.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
Yes. I'm on one.
[Galaxy S III General] jpalmerlee:
Don't I need to get with AT&T with the new GSIII to renew the contract? Does Amazon integrate with AT&T and they will just automatically renew my contract without me even having to go into the store?

Also, won't they be curious why I am asking for another MicroSIM card?
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
90% of the data problems people have using imported phones on AT&T are caused by the plan provisioned on their account being out of sync with the device actually being used. A plan provisioned for an iPhone won't work correctly with a HSPA+ Android phone. The move to a micro SIM has made all this a bit more challenging.

Historically you could just say you're using your own Moto Krzr and they'd provision your account for either MediaNet or the Data for Non-Smartphones plan. Now it's kind of hard when you tell them you need a micro SIM when only the iPhone, One XL, and SGS3 (all smartphones) are using them. If you're on a non-smartphone data plan and walk in to a corporate store with a smartphone their instructed to flag your account and move you to the right plan. Your best bet would be to get the right standard SIM card for your plan and use a SIM cutter to make it work. If you're on a Premier account you can also e-mail your rep and ask them to send you a micro SIM. Typically their pretty cool and won't ask any questions. Kind of a pain in the ass.

This is from the T&C for MEdia Net and the Non-Smartphones data plan...

"MEdia™ Net and Data Unlimited plans are not available on smartphones, Pocket PCs, RIM® devices, iPhone®, or LaptopConnect cards. Additional subscription and download charges may apply."
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Amazon will automatically renew your account. They have collaboration with art and they can do it from their side.

They will provide you a micro sim card without questions.
[Galaxy S III General] neyenlives:
This is from the T&C for MEdia Net and the Non-Smartphones data plan...

Careful man, if you remind them of what is supposed to be they get upset really fast.

Dont get upset guys, im giving him fair warning......duck!
[Galaxy S III General] stevieraveon:
Here's a question where I don't care about the cost of my plan (I expense monthly charges).

I currently have a pre-order for AT&T S3 (cost $600 total as I'm not up for renewal). Now I see it's backordered until the 28th.

I could buy international for $750 and get it by Friday.

I live in a 4g area (Chicago) and to be honest I've found 3g to be more than sufficient for a phone. LTE seems to be a battery drain and I rarely need such speed.

Forgetting all the benefits of a cheaper plan, what would people recommend I get? THe quad-core international version with a huge development community (and probably earlier updates) or the US version?
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
That's up to you. With the AT&T version you can get a cheaper warranty, service. With the International version you have to buy a 3rd party warranty, there are no 'quick fixes or exchanges', but you do get a lot of community support and mods and cheaper data rates.
[Galaxy S III General] tg9413:
got a little bit confused after reading some of the posts.

I am currently on the unlimited data plan with a gnote, but for 15/mo. When ppl said 10/mo, it has to be bundled with the unlimited family messaging which cost 15/mo right?

Because I was on 10/mo at first, but then att send me a text said since I didnt have the bundle, they will up my rate back to 15/mo :/

thinking getting a GS3 for my wife so I can get some solid reason to bundle the family messaging in.

on the side, I may get a GS3 from att first then sell it to pool some money. How long I should be hang on to the ATT version before I make the call to tell them my phone is stolen so i am jumping on to a dump phone lol?
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I'd get international version any day of week. But that's me.

i care more for dev support, better phone, flagship devices rather than their carrier modified variants/rip offs. I'm a technology enthusiast and that means I care less for money. But if better is less costlier then I won't argue.

Immediately after selling it off you can call them. No waiting. :)
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Unlimited Family messaging is $30 bucks a month I believe. That option only make sense if you have 4 or 5 lines on your plan and you don't want to pay for different text messaging plans for each line.

If you are on a single user plan, the $15 Medianet is good enough.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I agree ... I have 5 lines so family messaging of 30 bucks makes sense. For single users you may want media net plus google voice.