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[Windows 8 General] sinister1:
First off this is in no way trolling or bashing; but I have installed Windows 8 on both on one of my laptops and PC but I just noticed that I really don't use them that much. It seems that it just doesn't catch my attention and is too much of a bother to try to use the mouse and keyboard to navigate in between the Metro UI and desktop. Now I'm perrty sure that it is awesome on a touch device but I have not tried it yet.

How many people on here actually use Windows 8 on a non touch device on a daily basis? With out getting bored with it?
[Windows 8 General] attricus:
I am using Windows8 as my second system for daily use. I have installed it on a small partition, so I have Windows 7 and 8 in my pc.

I do not find it to be boring or difficult to use. It is true the first times you are a bit messed, but once you get used to Metro gestures it is easy and really quick to use Windows.

I am not sure how you are trying to navigate between Metro and Desktop or how are you using Windows. But you do not need to access Desktop to open programs. Once you install any program it appears in Metro, just click in the tile and you go directly to Desktop with the program launched. It is that easy.

I hope this can be helpful to you :)
[Windows 8 General] droidjosh:
i've also been using win 8 on my notebook and my desktop since the first preview. haven't had any issues navigating. of course its a little confusing using it for the first time, but after about a day its simple.

Haven't gotten bored of it either. for being previews, they run pretty darn smooth.
[Windows 8 General] luigi90210:
i tried using it on my laptop but i got rid of it in favor of ubuntu 11.10

it felt like trying to use android on my laptop(just overly confusing and a pain to use the GUI)

i do however believe windows 8 will kill off the laptop/netbook and all other tablets successfully, just take a x64 based tablet like the acer w500 or an arm based tablet like the transformer prime and put windows 8 on them, you will get a tablet when you are playing, and laptop when you're working
[Windows 8 General] ShadowEO:
I use (and have used) Windows 8 on my non touch NetBook since Developers preview and love it :-) it's also my primary operating system.
[Windows 8 General] sinister1:
I've actually been using it for a while and really find it akward to use on a regular desktop. I am waiting to try and possibly buy it on tablet. I have however tried the Transformer Prime running android :( and I have to say I was impressed by it; hope Windows 8 is as good on a tablet because I am not an andorid or ipad person.
[Windows 8 General] luigi90210:
You should buy any windows 7 tab and put windows 8 on it, my plan was to get the Acer w500 tablet and install windows 8 on it. I actually got rid of my android tablet so I can use windows 8, don't get me wrong android is nice on my phone but on a tablet its kind of useless.
[Windows 8 General] attricus:
There won't be Windows 8 for ARM at stores for buying, it will be installed in tablets only. Keep this in minde ;)
[Windows 8 General] Sir. Haxalot:
Well, there is a good reason that you aren't using the Metro UI. It was designed specifically for tablets and it adds absolutely nothing to a regular PC. There are not too hard to see that anything except the most basic tasks requires more actions to complete compared to the regular desktop.

Microsoft needs to wake up and realize that they can't have the same UI for touch and mouse.
[Windows 8 General] Rcf686:
Ditto here. I have been using it as my daily OS since the consumer preview to give it a good test and have updated to the release preview. Once you get used to it it just comes naturally. I also have a Samsung Slate 7 I bought to try it on and am using it daily so I have been using both the touch and nontouch enabled. The skydrive integration and the synching of favorites etc is working fantastic.
[Windows 8 General] 15israellai:
I've been playing around with Win8 on my own desktop for a while. It's not too hard to get used to, but I've always had a question - what's the point?
[Windows 8 General] ShadowEO:
Wrong, it brings realtime notifications to the start menu AND the desktop experience as well as reducing the time it takes to find applications in existing start menu program groups. But you strike me as one of those people who took a look at it and said "It's for tablets, will not use" and then never learned how to use it.

Not only that, but you need to wake up and realize that they are the developers, They CAN have the same UI for both mouse and touch and the current implementation as seen in Release Preview works very well for that purpose.
[Windows 8 General] jasongw:
I'm using it on my primary PC (dual screen, quad core, 4GB RAM, Geforce GTX460) on a daily basis. I use it with Photoshop/Illustrator/Chrome/Word/Wordpress, as well as various news readers.

It took a few hours to get through the learning curve (back during the Consumer Preview, not since Release Preview--that was easy to adapt to) but I'm confident that I'm actually MORE productive now, and am able to stay on top of things better thanks to deeply integrated features like the People Hub and so on.

Obviously, there's still some ground to cover--the OS is still essentially beta, after all--but all in all I believe it's the most impressive consumer OS I've ever used.

On the other side of things, I'm also beta testing the server in a simple file server role with a dozen users. Nobody's using it as a primary storage device yet, but I have a handful of titles setup to monitor services, alerts, etc, and I really like it. This is likely to make for a GREAT server OS once the major vendors apply themselves to creating Live Tiles that present pertinent information to an administrator upon login :).

Microsoft is in a distant lead when it comes to advanced OS design compared to, for example, Apple :)
[Windows 8 General] sinister1:
The more I use it the more I can foresee MS sales decline. Yes I have gotten use to some features and so on but I honestly don't see this in a corporate or business environment. But to be fair I haven't tested it on a touch device but non the less this has no business on a non-touch device at all. I don't get it; MS sees the reviews that people post on line and also see that the sales of Windows Phone are moving at a snail's pace and they force a touch screen OS to non touch devices:confused:
[Windows 8 General] mcosmin222:
I've been using windows 8 for some time now, on desktop with no touch (only mouse and keyboard) and i can safely say that everyone who says metro is bad for mouse is smoking good grass and i would like some too...

the extra gestures are only required when you want to shut down your PC only. That's it. the only instance in which you have to do more actions than you would on a regular windows 7.

other than that, the advantages are so blatant it's a wonder nobody mentions them

this is the fastest, most efficient operating system i have ever seen. Does windows 7 load for you in 4 seconds? because that's how long it takes for windows 8 to load on my desktop: 4 seconds. and it is not a state of the ark i7 machine, but an old generation core 2 duo.

The resource management is also oustanding. tasks are launched and executed almost like in a real time system (i sometimes forget windows 8 is not a real time system).

And if you get used to using your keyboard, you will save many of the "unnecessary" mouse gestures.

yes, it takes a few moments to get used to it, but once you've configured everything properly, windows 8 is miles ahead of any other system.
[HTC One X] anson ng:
i dont know what happen to my phone after i flashed the rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1692415&page=9

it stuck in the booting screen, can anyone help me?
[HTC One X] putti71:
Have you flashed the boot.img in fastboot?

If you did that, try fastboot erase cache and reboot.
[HTC One X] putti71:
If that's not working, try asking people in corresponding ROM thread.
[HTC One X] anson ng:
now my phone is out of battery, but thank you first..:(
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmlv:
I took possession of the Int'l version and it works flawlessly on at&t.

I have to admit I was wrong about the US carriers removing the home button and just messing with the overall look. That is why I did the pre-order in the first place.

I personally would rather have the LTE option vs hspa+ as I really don't need the ph unlocked. But it is nice to have no carrier bloatware....though att allows most to be deleted (expect the One X)

Are those on North American GSM carriers still pre-ordering the Int'l version or canceling your orders?

Looks like one can save around $150 buy purchasing from att maybe a little less in Canada. $549 vs. $694 (expansys)....and have LTE/2 gig ram. Plus the warranty..uh
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yokken:
If you have LTE in your area, it's a no-brainer. Plus you don't have to screw around with third parties for warranty issues, replacements, etc.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmlv:
Agree. We do have LTE in my area...funny thing is att hasn't even announced it but it is all over the place (i have a att lte ipad).

I will most likely put my device up for sale and pick up att's.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MoJoePin:
I think the best piece of mind going with the US variant is the replacement/exchange/warranty. Being early adopters of the phone who knows what issues will spring up, it's nice to know we have a good 30 days to just swap it out if anything comes up. Plus past that, I can imagine warranty issues with the Int. variant will be a pita for importers in the US.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slight22:
I disagree with that. I have LTE and though it would be nice, I would like to travel to Europe next year and it means i need to either buy an HSPA or international phone. If I buy an international phone and use it here in Canada I'm stuck on the old edge network.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Please, forgive if this post does not go here, sorry!!! :(

I have a Sony Live Walkman that I bought without any phone company in between. (Sorry my English doesn't help, don't know the exact term for that).

I checked, and it says that it is allowed to unlock bootloader.

But my question is, what is the benefit in my case? I don't have any garbage from any company loaded on my phone, the loader image is from Sony.

I can't grasp really well why is there the need to unlock bootloader. I'm new to Sony, I just had a LG - and the only concern was to ROOT and nothing else.

My Sony is rooted already. Do I need to unlock bootloader? (I'm just repeating myself a lot, lol) - and let's supossed I do unlock it: what happens? what new things I can/cannot do/break/etc?

Thanks a lot in advance for any info you could provide me, I learnt a lot in these last months, and with this Sony things are.... different....:cool:

Kisses :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
Unlocking bootloader lets you install custom kernels and ROMs. If you do it via official way, you lose your guarantee and your DRM keys, that means you will not be able to use TrackID and some other little features. If you patch it via unofficial way (test point method) you lose nothing. Anyway, if you don't intend to change your ROM, don't unlock it :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Sorry that I'm a bit slow :D, but what is the "unofficial way" to do it?

I don't plan to install any custom ROM, but would like to try some new Kernel - and I believe I have to unlock bootloader for that?

I managed to root without unlock it, I wish I could flash a new kernel the same way :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
Unfortunately, you can't flash custom kernels without unlocking the bootloader. Check THIS thread, you'll find useful information :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
Well the unofficial way will allow you to keep your drm information and you will be able to keep using the track id app. here is a video of the method you need to follow to unlock it the unofficial way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgYAZoqsk9E, the video it's from fast gsm but it is the basic procedure of the test point method the only difference it's the software you will use and of course that it is free.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Thanks guys, very useful info. Just one last thing, cause one of your responses confused me:

The official method will let me flash Kernel

the UN official method won't

is that right?

Thanks again, promise I'll read all those articles now.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
any method will let you flash a custom kernel the only difference is that using the official method you will lose your drm (digital rights management) for protected music, the usage of the track id app and any way of officially update your phone (over the air, ppc or sus) and using the unofficial way (test point method) you will keep the drm, track id and you will be able to update your phone using ppc or sus.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Perfectly clear.

Thanks a bunch! ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
Perfectly welcome! :p ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.

The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?

I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] melander:
Did official method also.

It is much more simple, just on the computer.

You will loose the track id feature, never used it anyway.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
Lol... I just tried via test point method, and you know what? Only thing I couldn't do is remove that damn layer covering the test point... :p

I gave up u.u
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sravan242:
do it if u really use it atmost.

i think u wish to install custom kernel right?? but not custom rom!! most of the custom kernels support only custom roms only few support stock.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
well at the end it's up to you but the test point it's not really that complicated i did it with a paperclip jejeje
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
I'm sure of that... but I haven't found a way to uncover the test point yet, lol
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.

The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.

Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.

I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.

The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too.... :p
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
The trick is to use a hair dryer to take out the back stick (under the battery) and then you will find the tp I posted a video before.

Girl I think I told you before that you can pm if you needed anything right? :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
Mmm... Ill try :D

But does it return to its place once I've finished, or will I have to use glue? :D

I know, weird question :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
Nah it's not weird i was felling the same way :D but no you don't have to use glue it will stick back alone, just do it with ease ok??
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sravan242:
its for u... test point method with detailed discription and video.. go with this LINK
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
I knoooooow! But when I had my phone there, all peeled off, disarmed I freakead out. And the Program does not look like the example video. Won't do that method, will do the official - I already have my unlock code Sony gave me. I 'll ask you that you give some kind of "paso por paso" if youdon't mind. :D;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Didn't see your video and tutorial until I answered to another person here. It looks doable - but the wires freak me out. Can I use a needle point (awww my SPanish isn't helping) tweezer instead?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
I think you can actually use whatever metal object, as long as you manage to connect TP and ground with it.

For example, a paperclip. :)

Also, that tutorial shows you how to find and connect the Test Point, but the program shown is different from S1Tool... remember that! :p
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Well, thanks again for taking the time to do that post. Even if the points I had to press on my phone aren't the one that the ones showed on the tutorial here, in some other page https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgYAZoqsk9E I followed your steps. Nothing happens. It NEVER asks me for a driver or something.

I give up on this. Specially, when I read "NOW THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP!!!!! WATCH YOUR STEP!! WRONG ATTACHED TEST POINT CAN BROKE YOUR PHONE!!"

Well, now I have just attached different test points and put my phone at risk.

I'll wait for some detailed tutorial on to do it "the official way". No more wires and needles, don't want to break something. Sorry.

Thanks for everything, really :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sravan242:
well u want an official way right!!

then u can go on with this LINK and just go to bottom off the page and hit the button saying "start unlocking the bootloader"

then u enter to the next page saying "continue" at end of the page..

then hit continue then u will be directed to a page to confirmation!!

then hit "yes i am sure" then u will have to accept some legal terms

check all boxes n hit "i accept" enter ur name imei and ur email id then u will get the unlocking code...

i assume u have installed the flashtool!!

now connect ur phone to pc then flashtool will detect ur phone then after ur phone is detected goto menu options u will find plugins option their find hit it u will find "unlock boot loader" and hit RUN then it will ask u to unplug and enter to flashmode then to again unplug and enter to fastboot mode or vice versa do it as i mentioned. thats it ur bootloader will be unlocked!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
I saw that plugin in Flashtool, but given the instructions I read at the Sony site - http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ - on how to unlock, I dismissed.

Oh boy, if I had known! Thank you for this, it worked beautifully.

Are you mad or something? You sounded like you were losing your patience :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
This might be a weird question but... what happens if a phone with LOCKED bootloader is plugged in fastboot mode using flashtool? Does it enter fastboot mode or not? I mean, what happens?

a) It enters fastboot mode, with blue LED and blablabla, but no custom kernel can be flashed.

b) Nothing happens.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sravan242:
no way.. i never lose my patience. i always try to solve prob., where i know solution for it!!

I always love to help my friends!!

did it worked??is my help useful???

or should tell any other way!!:D

---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:33 PM ----------

with a locked bootloader also u can enter into fastboot mode but u cannot flash custom kernels!! so dont try to flash custom kernels unless u unlock ur bootloader..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
Yeah the only way you are not going to be able to enter fastboot is if you have a locked sim.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ashwinsadeep:
It enters fastboot mode just fine. Afterall bootloader can be unlocked through fastboot. :p

But since your boot partition is locked (i.e Read Only) you won't be able to flash any new kernel.

---------- Post added at 08:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

If you don't want to install a custom ROM, I don't see the point in unlocking the bootloader.

Most of the custom ICS kernels require the corresponding cutom ROM to be installed, and won't work with the official ROM. Besides, just changing your kernel doesn't bring anything new to the table. Almost all the user experience is related to the ROM being used.

Sure kernel is a determining factor when it comes to battery life and OC, but from my experience flashing different ROM's, what a new kernel brings to the table negligible. And OC is not really needed if you ask me. Right now I'm using ExMIUI and it runs fine at 1GHz.

Even if you are to use stock based GB kernels, you're gonna have to downgrade to .62 or .42 firmware, so that a custom kernel works with stock. But who would want to downgrade to GB after ICS right?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] toninsc:
i can say, UNLOCK your bootloader, i´ve my LWW is 3 moths, today i´m unlocked, i put custom room´s and I regretted not unlocked before... do it and be happy
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Well guys, I've done it. As you can see in my signature now, my bootloader is unlocked now.

Thanks for all, really, thank you - you were great :) <3
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sravan242:
how did u unlock testpiont or official!!:confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
I think she went all through the official way... well, DRMs are not such a cooooool feature :p
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sravan242:
may be but trackid is a cool one!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Feanor88:
Shazam should do the job... also, you can download TrackID from PlayStore and it will work just fine. Only, I don't know if it's as good as the pre-installed one :p
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
LOL! I went for the official one, you led to me it and explained that Flashtoold could do the trick. It was super easy, and I let you an answer and thanks.

So now, thanks again :)

And yes, DRM aren't special for me, and I use Soundhound
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sravan242:
s it is when u use soundhound!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Not sure what you meant or said :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hardcorekb:
Hola ChicaAndroid, yo también soy de Argentina seguramente me podés dar una mano con un par de dudas que tengo, te mandé un pm

Gracias!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ChicaAndroid:
Te conteste por pm You should speak English here, is the norm. :silly: