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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Hey guys. I may have found a way to get google wallet working on AT&T S2. I was searching the web and found a link (will post in a few) that stated he patched the google wallet apk so it wouldnt read your device or carrier and you could install it by using root explorer and giving correct permissions. Have to install to /system/apps. Im currently trying to install now. Its stuck on initializing google wallet tho. This is much further than i have gotten before trying to install from market (not supported on your device/carrier error.) Anyway just wanted to know if this is a step forward in getting google wallet on AT&T S2?

Rooted running AOKP Rom build 37 BTW.

Edit:found out i cant post links yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
screen shots

Screen shots. Look at the google wallet icon in top corner. And blue screen google wallet is stuck on. Any help/suggestions, ideas how to get this thing to work? I'm a newbie btw so crush my dreams and crush em hard if im not going/getting anywhere with this "discovery" LOL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
You won't get anywhere. Google Wallet requires a hardware NFC secure element to function. The Galaxy S2 does not have this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shinji257:
That explains the logcat at that I got awhile back that said a secure element could not be found. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Thanks guys. I was hoping the I may have stumbled onto something, that you masterminds could help develop futher. (LOL). I was going to post the link i got it from you maybe you guys could see where i got it from, but i have to do a couple more post before i can do that. well, guess we have to wait on ISIS (2013????!!! nationwide) before we can use a NFC payment app on the AT&T Galaxy S2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
I'm not so sure of this. After all, I've seen messages in dmesg about wiping the secure element.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
I was kinda thinking there has to be a way as well. Im fb and twitter friends with the guy zedomax who does youtube reviews on roms and how-tos. He said he was going to post a video on how to get it at the end of the week. I was specific when i told him which phone i have and twice he said there is a way (once when i asked on fb and another time when i asked on twitter). So im waiting to hear from him and then i will post again if any results.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nystromproductions:
I would love this!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Believe me im "stalking" his every move online right now. Lol. He just got his youtube channel back so he should have multiple videos coming soon I also put in a personal request twice, and he said he would make a video. Guess we have to play the waiting game until video is posted, unless someone figures out sooner.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
I'd be very surprised...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
The waiting game is on!

Sent from a SGH-I777 I wish was the Galaxy Nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
There is no waiting game. The Galaxy S2 is missing crucial hardware; it will never work with Google Wallet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Im a bit of a noob, can u explain futher? What is the difference between google wallet and the ISIS app? Im pretty sure ISIS will work with the S2 whenever the app is released. What hardware is missing that allows it to work with ISIS, but not google wallet?

Sent from a SGH-I777 I wish was the Galaxy Nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Hey guys, just got yet another confirmation from the guy zedomax. He said it can be done. Just waiting on video proof from his end. Ill keep yall updated.

Sent from a SGH-I777 I wish was the Galaxy Nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Where is your evidence of this?

You claim there is no secure element - but when I first got NFC up and running on CM9, the first thing it did was wipe the secure element because it was a first boot.

While I think GW may be possible on the I777, I'll be surprised if it comes from this avenue...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mattdm:
Well, if he does get it working, it'll kinda make up for all the noobs he's inadvertently sent our way with broken wifi from his rooting tutorials...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Lol. I was one myself!

Sent from a SGH-I777 I wish was the Galaxy Nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
here's the link that started it all for me

http://www.modaco.com/topic/354635-region-device-root-patched-google-wallet-apk-11-r63-v12/

Maybe someone can do something to take it further? I'm far from being a developer, but if i can help I'll gladly do so....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] adelvillar:
I can get it installed and running but it stays stuck on "Initializing your device"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Same thing happens to me too. I was chattin' it up with a few guys on here, some say its possible some say its not, but most of them made one thing clear the method i posted with a link prob wont work, at least for NOW...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Or u could just.....carry a normal wallet. And take the extra 10 seconds to pay for things normally rather than trying to get something working that more than likely just won't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gr8hairy1:
That is so incredibly not the point. This is xda, the pursuit of perfection.

Using that reasoning, the answer to bad battery life is buy more batteries. Why try to modify the rom when it only 'may' help, some of the time?

Coming from a captivate, that thing had terrible battery life. But towards the end of me using it, instead of being dead by 6pm, it was lasting me past midnight. It only got there because people did not give up and say "Just buy a second battery".

Left to At&t/Samsung, google wallet very well may never come to this phone. But nfc if working flawlessly on the i777, and that's not because of At&t/Samsung. That's because of the people here on xda.

Will this phone reliably run google wallet?

There's only one way to find out.

And no one is saying leave your wallet home :-)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
I understand yer point and i do hope for those that want it to work they get it working. I just don't see the real world potential . Its handy for sure. But its not like Im ever without my bank card or anything else anyway. So....meh . Good luck :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bigsmooth843:
Took the words outta my mouth. ;)

I love this phone but im about a payday away from ordering the galaxy nexus GSM. I really hope google wallet works eventually, but I just would rather have pure google goodness.

Sent from a SGH-I777 I wish was the Galaxy Nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] simplicityy:
Get used to his trolling logic.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
The ISIS application is said to be using the SIM card as the secure element. In contrast, Google Wallet uses an embedded secure element. The Galaxy S2 does not have an embedded secure element.

Here's a source for you. The Galaxy S2 uses the PN544 NFC chip and does not come with an embedded secure element. As you can see above, the Nexus devices and the One X use a PN65N which adds an embedded secure element. This is why they can use Google Wallet.

Also, CM9 did not wipe your secure element. Firstly, you don't have one (if you're using a GS2). Secondly, they wouldn't be able to gain access to the secure element in order to wipe it in the first place.

So, no, you will never have Google Wallet on the Galaxy S 2. The only way it would ever happen is if Google agreed with networks to share your SIM card as a secure element, which is incredibly unlikely.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BROKKANIC:
Forgive my ignorance, because I know exactly jack squat. But wouldn't the work around to this be then to trick GW into thinking there was a secure element?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
No. The secure element is part of the payment process. It's physically needed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Yeah...

I have yet to see credible proof from you that we don't have a secure element.

Reread what you linked. The Galaxy Nexus has the PN544 *in addition to* the PN65N - NOT instead of as you claim. We have the EXACT same NFC chip as the Galaxy Nexus - How do I know? To get NFC working in CM9, we used the Galaxy Nexus libpn544_fw.so blob. Yes, that's right - we are currently using the EXACT same NFC configuration for CM9 as the Galaxy Nexus does in CM9. Same firmware, same userspace code. I have yet to see proof from you that we *do not* have this additional chip you're talking about.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nizda1:
Yup Entropy is correct on that and if anyone can get it worked out one way or another my money is on him. Also in the link you gave if you click on the hyper link of the chip it states our device supports multiple secure elements. Whether we have a way to access it I haven't seen evidence we don't but I have seen evidence from when the nexus s came out and Google wallet was unavailable to the device a long time ago where devs were able to successfully emulate mifare 1k. Regardless all this means is that its untrue to state we can not ever have it.

Btw. Entropy did you get full nfc working with cm9 as in abilities to r/w ? If so or even read I'll be switching roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
I did not claim instead of, I'm well aware that use of the PN65N adds (which is what I wrote...) a SmartMX secure element to the PN544. The Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S2 have completely different NFC chips. Open up your S2 and you'll see that the chip says 44 on it. Look here. Open up a Nexus and you'll see it has 65N on it. As is mentioned in the link I provided, these two separate chips are pin compatible, but the 544 on its own lacks an embedded secure element. The 65N contains a 544, that's why custom ROMs are able to use Nexus files on the S2.

Files used in CM9 or any other custom ROMs really mean absolutely nothing when we're talking about the secure element. The fact remains that only Google is able to gain access to, write to and wipe the secure element. Only their applications are able to do this. No modder has access to the secure element because -guess what- it would no longer be secure. If CM9 were able to gain access to the secure element without begging for help from Google, you would know about it because Google would be scrambling for a solution.

So, once again, Google Wallet will never work on the Galaxy S2 unless Google chooses to make SIM secure elements an option, which is very unlikely. The Galaxy S2 does not have the required hardware to use Google Wallet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tubifex:
NFC

I just flashed the AOPK ROM and was excited to NFC to use Google Wallet but I guess I will have to be disappointed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BROKKANIC:
Yeah, tried it. Didn't work for me.

I forced the hacked apk into my system>app folder and I couldn't even get it to install.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MikeC4510:
Same here...looks like it's only for the nexus and one x users :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] KevinChaos:
The furthest I've gotten was installing it, and I was able to register and get the free $5. Whenever I'd try to load the card to pay for things it would crash. :/ I don't remember how I did it. It was a while ago. I know I tried again recently and it was just a mess. Lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] geraldf80:
All I got was as far as the authorizing pop up. But on a side note, when I try to set up the app and it sticks on the authorizing screen, it seems to break the settings for data/nfc etc. Settings locks up and I cannot access the nfc selection.

Siyah 3.4

Cm9 0606
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tdiliplane:
Ha! Sony said the same thing about their PSN, low and behold SOMEONE CRACKED it! If it electronic and the framework can be accessed it CAN be modified. What i find funny is that you're arguing with one of the top developers here about a topic he is very familiar with...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
He's clearly not as familiar with NFC as you believe. I've already demonstrated above just how wrong he was.

I'd love to see a dev get access to the secure element, but it very likely won't happen.

So, for the third time in this thread, I will repeat myself: Google Wallet will never work on the Galaxy S2. It does not have the required hardware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jdbeitz:
Why hasn't red closed this yet? This thread has gone to hell in a hand basket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] geraldf80:
Close the thread? I thought someone was working on a possible solution.. the only distraction is lovenfc repeating his opinion based on 1 (ONE) article from last November... over and over.. he's just trying to hijack the thread but on XDA THATS NORMAL..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
My God, you people are delusional. All of this information is freely available on the internet. Google Wallet uses an embedded secure element for payments - this is a fact. Check Google's support pages. Every single Galaxy S2 does not have an embedded secure element - this is also a fact. Check hardware teardowns or open up your phone if you'd like.

This thread should indeed be closed, as I've already proven that it's pointless. So, for the fourth time, I will repeat myself: Google Wallet will never work on the Galaxy S2. It does not have the required hardware.

Why do you think so many non-supported phones with NFC that have been released recently has gotten Google Wallet hacked onto them? Because they have the required hardware. The HTC Desire C has Google Wallet. The One X has Google Wallet. The Galaxy S3 has Google Wallet. Because they have the required hardware - an embedded secure element.

The Galaxy S2 does not have the required hardware. How many more times must I repeat myself?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jdbeitz:
You probably shouldn't anymore. Your "opinion" is ruining the thread. Let other bash their head against a brick wall. You've stated your opinion enough. If it works, it works. If it won't, it won't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheDude:
Maybe you should keep your phones away from water?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LoveNFC:
It's not an opinion. It's a verifiable fact. That you believe I've ruined a thread by providing a fact is somewhat strange.

It's not a question of if it works. It won't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Fusion777:
Let's stay civil in the remote chance that LoveNFC is wrong and stop trolling just because you wish he was. If the hardware is indeed missing, sometimes "soft token" solutions can work and sometimes they can't. At a minimum it takes a lot of elbow grease from the dev. I know, i implemented a PKCS#11 library back in the day to do such a thing.

What I'd enjoy reading from the naysayers is proof of reasonable doubt that LoveNFC is wrong. In fact, I bet he would too. If you don't have that, then stop embarrassing yourself (yes I trolled a little just there)

i777 w/ Siyah 3.4.2 dual booting AOKP and Shostock... yet sent from my iPad using Forum Runner
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Divine_Madcat:
I feel there is some interesting discussion here, even if it pans out to be nothing.

LoveNFC, please do not return to this thread, unless you have constructive input. (actually, that warning applied to everyone..). You have said your piece... If people are wrong so be it. But as it is, this community is built on the spirt of exploration.. Let people explore..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tokool2btroo:
I had the app working on my phone but when I tried activating the Google Prepaid Card, it would say that it was verifying my account with Money Network and it got stuck there. It was a while ago though and I'm trying to recreate it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lmarr28:
Sorry if this has been covered, guys (I'll admit, I didn't search terribly hard), but I just noticed that when I use a direct link to Google Wallet in the Play Store, it shows that my SGS2 is supported (see screenshot) and it will install. Unfortunately when launched, it still tells me that my device or carrier isn't supported. :(

Play Store Link:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel

[EDIT:] BTW, the link above is for the new version of Wallet that was just released today. It lets you use any major credit card now (on my Nexus 7).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
You didn't search at all. It's well known it won't work for our phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lmarr28:
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that it wasn't okay for me to post about the new version of Wallet showing as "available" for our devices in a thread that's dedicated to Wallet on our devices. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MotoMudder77:
Ha, He's got ya there Nick! :p

I wonder what, In the play store, justifies an app being "compatible".

The fact that our H/W and S/W will run the application? or do the Dev's state which device its compatible with?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
Our hardware doesn't support it, it's been said we don't have a secure element or whatever. If at&t ever releases isis we might have a chance at Mobile payments. Just because it runs on the phone does not mean it will work right
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] j510:
Sounds like an excuse. What more do we need hardware related besides nfc. Thingz may flip once att finally updates their firmware with nfc enabled. Who knows
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] killman2659:
You don't get it do you? NFC will not work for this phone. No secure element. Try installing a modded apk. Won't work. It hangs at activating.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Fusion777:
The real question is whether our existing NFC chips can *emulate* a secure element. If so, then it doesn't matter whether a real one is there or not. I'm gonna read up on that
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mfreywald:
From my understanding. This new wallet does it through a cloud service now. So the secure element might not be an issue now. I'm not sure about this. I do know the apk posted will not install side loaded.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Fusion777:
I was pondering the same thing. But too many speculative factors in regards to what specifically they are & are not doing with the secure element.

For the record, sideloading still results in 'device not supported'
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Works just fine on my nexus 7 ;-p

Then again I don't use it in the first place loll
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Pirateghost:
I used my gnex today to buy drinks and snacks at circle k. Kickass. Paid for with my free 10 bucks from google
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
I really want to be able to use it it looks like more places around me are starting to support it. But unfortunately so far it is not possible
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Ask pirate if he'll share his gnexus:-p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
I don't think he likes to share :eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Pirateghost:
Lol. My gnex!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Eternalty:
:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shishir95:
It wouldn't make sense for Google to ditch the hardware security element in favor of cloud activation/service. They probably use the security element at payment because that's how you keep your data... *gasp* secure from other apps, services, people, etc.. But whatever, if AT&T releases ISIS by March next year then I'll keep my GS2, but if not then I'm throwing money at the next Nexus phone. I'm sure many of you will agree lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lmarr28:
This isn't a technical article by any means, but it does hint that the new cloud storage will replace the need for a secure element. Can anyone find any official documentation from Google stating this?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/01/google-wallet-moves-to-the-cloud-opens-up-to-all-credit-and-deb

[EDIT] The source link in this article from Google won't load for me right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CallMeAria:
Right, but if that data was stored securely in "the cloud" then there would be no need for the secure element on the actual device. Transaction details are sent to the cloud where payment is approved and returned as paid. No personal information is actually transmitted. The transaction details are then sent to your account of choice from the cloud, not your phone, and actual payment is processed.

Of course that's just a theory, but a feasible one if Google is in fact going to move in that direction. Hardware restrictions = lower user base.

EDIT: well after reading a quote from Google my theory is dead :P Still need that secure element to store your GW id.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MikeC4510:
So if we suppose that wallet doesn't need the secure element anymore because of the cloud, what if we change the NFC libs from the modded apk from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1769083 and installed it with the same instructions? Or will we have to still wait for AT&T to release the nfc libs?

Just a thought...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] enos_feedler:
From NFC World:

It seems like secure element is still involved and no chance for deployment on i777 :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mfreywald:
Then that would probably clinch it. We would still need to have that secure element. Bummer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nizda1:
Yea I think someone took the article out of context. What they did was change their app so it works pretty much in tandem with your Google wallet account,which we all have if we have bought an app or have a CC on file. As before imo the app and the checkout service were technically unique from one another. Anyway yea we still need the secure element. I noticed the link when I redeemed my nexus 7 Gwallet 10$.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CallMeAria:
Google should work with GSM carriers and make a sim card with an acceptable secure element built in for nfc capable devices. For added security add a feature to the sim card that forever binds it to one device, which would make the fact that its removable a non-issue security wise. And GW wouldn't be as hardware dependent.

I do love daydreaming.. :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mjgspr95:
They got it working on galaxy s 3. Is security element hardware or software? They switched build prop and then switch back. I wonder if CMO 10 jellybean adds secure element ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mfreywald:
It is hardware from what I understand. So there is no way to add it in. Unless you can somehow trick wallet into believing the hardware element is there. Doubt it highly that that's possible.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] killman2659:
This^^^^^ As a side note, don't you think if it was possible, it would already have been done? Sucks to say it, but we ain't gonna get Wallet. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 122ninjas:
It's almost like an insult that he thinks we haven't thought of it! D:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Fusion777:
Just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it's impossible;)

Sent from my Nexus 7
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mfreywald:
I never suggested that it had never been thought of. Where in my post did I suggest such?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 122ninjas:
Sorry forgot my /s tag

Sent from my SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kamots:
Like it was said earlier. I think we are just going to get stuck with at&t's (isis)? Which I'm sure they will butcher. I'm thinking that our only hope is that once that is released, one of the xda pros will be able to fix it enough to be use able. Or at&t might get something right... Bwahaha. Sorry. Past my bed time :p