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[HTC Rezound] movielover76:
Sour Grapes

I know this is an HTC phone owner's forum, but I think we have to give Samsung some props for being able to tell Verizon to **** off, either take the phone as we've designed it or don't take it and having Verizon cave, Verizon always controls the smartphones it releases with an iron fist and almost never releases phones with the same specs and layout as the other carriers.

The fact that they could do this, is a big win for any smartphone manufacturer, I'm sure a lot of us wish we had a HTC One X option, instead of them releasing the lame 4G incredible, I'm disappointed by the screen technology in the S3 but otherwise I think it looks like a great phone, it could be my next one, waiting to see what else is released before the end of the year.

As far as updates are concerned, sure Verizon will slow them down partly because their Verizon and partly because having a CDMA phone naturally slows down the process, Sprint's updates are slowed down for the same reason (maybe not to the degree of Verizon) and AT&T even though it's GSM and should be able to release updates quickly once available is just as slow as Verizon, I'm still waiting on an update for my S2 despite the fact that it's almost identical to the international version and I've been running a stable rom based on the international version for 3 months.

T-mobile is probably the best, the simple fact is that as long as carrier's control our phone updates, the updates will be slowed down by our carrier's, Verizon isn't special in that respect.

Also their's the manufacturer, everyone screams about the galaxy nexus update slowdowns on Verizon, which I'm sure are verizon's fault to some degree, but I also guarantee that google prioritizes the GSM version, because they don't need to get anyone's approval and then starts working on the verizon update, Sprint's ICS update for the nexus s was slow as well.

But I think the fact that all 4 major carrier's will have essentially the same phone will put some degree of pressure on Verizon to work to get the updates completed, and any pressure on Verizon to release updates is a good thing.

In my mind any Android manufacturer that pushes back against the carrier is a good thing for Android, HTC may not be able to do this at this moment, but if Samsung can do it and HTC keeps releasing phones that are worthy competitors to samsung phones like the One X, you may see HTC or other Android manufacturers successfully pushing back against the carrier's.
[HTC Rezound] drtchocky:
Did you guys see the drop test? I ain't getting near that phone.
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id=galaxys3

Love my Rezound but am offically retiring it when this comes out. Fingers crossed for decent radios. Lol
[HTC Rezound] Sleek69:
I'd take an S4 process or with 2gb ram over a quad core exynos with 1gb ram any day!
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
Link?
[HTC Rezound] movielover76:
I think drop tests are the most meaningless tests that have every been conducted on a smartphone, every possible angle and surface that a phone hits could change the results of a drop test, if your worried about the results of drop tests get a case, I dropped each and every one of my phones in an case and never had a screen shatter, it could but it greatly reduces the chances.

Whether your phone's screen smashes the time you drop it is mostly dumb luck, with the notable exception of the iphone 4/4S probably that thing is more prone to smashing because it's almost all glass.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
This. Drop tests are utterly silly.
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
They are often entertaining though. I mean, some fool purposely dropping his phone to break it?

That's funny.

Maybe not Will It Blend? funny, but still funny.
[HTC Rezound] mbarry55:
Just like how Samsung showed Verizon with those timely updates the GNex got. Like it or not, Verizon calls the shots when it comes down to it.
[HTC Rezound] movielover76:
Agreed, stupid humans are always funny, that's why you tube exists :)
[HTC Rezound] TXI Kaze:
Of course HTC can't do this, especially when compared against Samsung. Samsung is THE biggest cellphone manufacturer now. What'd you expect?
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
And Apple is the richest BY FAR... HTC will never have the same pull unfortunately. The GS3 is ugly as hell, and screen won't hold a candle to the rezounds either. That being said, development will probably be really good for it :(. I probably won't buy one, i probably won't by another phone until they completely surpass this one. I gotta have the high pixel density lol. I think the rezound still has the highest, and Sony made one with the same ppi. LG had made a screen that is 440ppi at 5in, but its not in a phone yet... It would be cool if it was in the next HTC ;)

Also I'm pretty sure preorders are supposed to start June 6th for those saying Verizon will pass it.
[HTC Rezound] b5fan:
That article made no sense. The blue pixel wears out faster so they put in 2 green pixels. What???
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
I know really. That is really stupid.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
You must have pretty incredible eyes to be able to see the difference between 340 and 306 PPI.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Yup. It's not hard at all to see
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
I kinda want the sgs3 but I really like what he rezound... Also I don't have the money. I'll just keep this until my contract is about halfway up and I habr enough money to get a phone.

Sent from my Rezound churning Cream
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
That's cool. Never mind all the data showing that the human eye physically can't see the difference over 300 PPI. You have special eyes.

Edit-citing my sources, sorry for that-- http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/2010/06/apple-retina-display/

However, this does not take into account the optics of the system which degrade image quality somewhat giving a commonly accepted resolution of 1 arcminute/cycle. So, if a normal human eye can discriminate two points separated by 1 arcminute/cycle at a distance of a foot, we should be able to discriminate two points 89 micrometers apart which would work out to about 287 pixels per inch. Since the iPhone 4G display is comfortably higher than that measure at 326 pixels per inch, I’d find Apple’s claims stand up to what the human eye can perceive.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Lol I'm not trying to call you a liar or anything but its not very hard to tell the difference. Its not like I look at my screen from an inch away all day though :rolleyes:
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
Yes its like that with OLED screens, the organic material breaks down faster in the blue pixels
[HTC Rezound] PhantasmRezound:
Bet they didn't account for a nearsighted person with a prescription of +5.00 / +3.75 like me.

Have to hold a phone so close without my specs I still barely perceive the pixel "grid" at 300 PPI trololol. 330ish and up disappears though :p
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
What don't you get? Go look up RGB vs RGBG

Here's a link to some good reading:

http://www.oled-info.com/pentile
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
On second thought, if development dies for this one and explodes for the VZ GS3, and no better phones are on the horizon.. i may get one and just deal with how ugly I think it is lol. I must, have, MIUI, again. Lol. I really like the new Sense 4.0 but this phone won't get Sense 4 officially soooo... Miui it is lol.

I am gonna need something that destroys the iPhone 5 though so I can throw it in some friends faces. :p
[HTC Rezound] drtchocky:
I think drop tests are plenty important. I've dropped both my rezounds multiple times and just got scuff marks. It looks like you're sh*t outta luck if this lands on it's face. I remember before buying the rezound I saw a review on this site:

http://www.gizmoslip.com/

and they said it was the most durable phone they had tested with only one hairline crack on a facedown drop.

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http://www.gizmoslip.com/2012/04/11/htc-rezound-vs-machete/

But it didn't survive against a machete.
[HTC Rezound] PhantasmRezound:
And I am of the crowd that thinks drop tests are still a waste of good tech. It doesn't require a bunch of dummies with a yardstick and too much cash to blow to tell me to protect my junk, its dumb luck that will still determine if your phone glass survives.

For the record, my Rezzy has done several four and five foot drops, complete with triple somersaults and ground slides on its face with no scratched glass.

Know what did in the glass? It cracked from a simple pancake flip out of my pants pocket while sitting on the can. Less than a foot long flop onto restaurant quarry tile.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Once I dropped my rezound from shoulder height onto a tile floor in the bathroom. Not so much as a scratch or a scuff :D
[HTC Rezound] :
There's a brilliant invention for those arguing over durability, and that is a....case.....
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
I am in that camp too, I just want to see some idiots break a phone.
[HTC Rezound] :
Lmao. "Hey bro I just dropped my phone and it still works!!, this phone is bad@5s!!"
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
Looks like we'll be able to keep our unlimited with pre-order.

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...erizon-and-you-keep-your-unlimited-data-plan/
[HTC Rezound] ftmaniac948:
This is just getting harder and harder to decide on
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Please ignore:confused:
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Makes me kinda want to call Verizon and demand they move my upgrade sooner. :)
[HTC Rezound] movielover76:
If anyone tries this and it works, please let me know, I have serious doubts that it would work, knowing that your only trying to get one last upgrade out of them before you lose your unlimited if you get a subsidized phone, but if it works I'd give it a try, my upgrade isn't available until november, which I won't be taking

The full cost of a smartphone < the cost of paying for the amount of data I use per month on tiered data 6 - 10 GB a month
[HTC Rezound] ftmaniac948:
It works, you just have to get lucky with one of the reps. They are people too who understand the need to save money, and if your nice about it and calmly explain the situation, with the right rep you can get an early upgrade. Source is from personal experience.
[HTC Rezound] stkiswr:
You guys are ****ting me. This phone is leaps and bounds more powerful than current tech. Why hate. Its not a gs2.5 I have owned the gs2 and this on paper looks better. S4? What? I take that. Instant shutter? Even if it were an sweet old gs2 camera...still happy. What's wrong with it?

I even owned a rezound and it is a fantastic device. I switched to the maxx for the battery and a few other things but hell, welcome new new.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
One word: pentile
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Lol.

I'm not saying it isn't a better phone in a couple of ways, but it really isn't worth spending 800 dollars on over this one. But hey we'll see lol. ;) and its undeniably ugly lol.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
I haven't read a review yet that sees pentile as perceptible or a problem. Could be wrong though. Sounds like the auto-brightness is a bigger problem.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
well I would bet when I explain that I will jump ship to sprint come November if I don't get an upgrade before unlimited goes away, they might be more willing. One more upgrade and a definite two more years?

But I wont start with that. Ill give them an honest chance to be awesome. Specially when I explain all the phones I've been through. Five thunderbolts, Droid bionic, five resounds and one gnex all less than two years. Lotta warranty and 30 day exchanges though.

I found the pentile on the gnex to be honestly nothing compaired to the pentile on the Droid bionic. If this is supposed to be less noticeable than the gnex it will be awesome with me.

I love me some amoled screens.
[HTC Rezound] brisdaddy1207:
I wouldn't get your hopes up on timely updates.
[HTC Rezound] j0hnZ:
I'm just sad I don't have a backup phone on Verizon so I can sell the ReZound now.
[HTC Rezound] tylerdurdin:
Tru-dat

killing is my business, And business is good.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
hmm ill happily stick to my rezound. touch wiz looks god awful and bland. no thanks. besides, I'm over crappy Samsung build quality.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Thing is, touchwiz 5 is smoother than stock ICS :eek: :eek:

I agree tho. The s3 doesn't have me jealous or envious at all. What will is that rumored quad core HTC gnote-like device for later this year.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Say word? Adreno 320, quad core krait, 5inches at 1080p, 4G? It's interesting that's for sure. What if it had expandable memory and a 5000mah battery with 3gigs of ram and 5mp front cam with a 15mp rear cam. Id probably buy it. Oh it also needs a beverage dispenser.

I just hope that with the screen being so big, the dimensions of the device aren't wacky big
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Yeah no

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I think they stated that phone isn't going to come out anytime soon. That it was just a design idea which got leaked out.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
and looks just like IOS...
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
I made most of that up lol. I don't believe it till I see it as always xD
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Lololol. I remember seeing an engineering sample with similar specs or close to it. I forget the name.. I know it wasn't the Zeta.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
My wallet was working fine yesterday then I checked it and it said balance unavailable, so i reset it, now whenever I try to get it to restart or even restart the phone, it gets stuck at initializing your device, i'm hoping it's a server issue, but in not, google has to do something about this, this can't be cost effective for carriers to replace devices due to this issue. I did nothing to make this happen so getting it replaced doesn't solve much cuz i have no assurance that it isn't gonna happen again... this happen to anyone else?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Mikee4fun:
I had similar issues, Google wallet is buggy! I also get Citi is unavailable at this time. Please try again soon. Must be another beta product. lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AssassinsLament:
Google wallet is down... been like this for like 5+ hours.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
yeah I finally went thru after 3+ of initializing, this is soooo buggy! i cleared my setting and not touching it until i actually know i'm gonna use it!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
back to initializing smh, buggy pos
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
Hey tickle they have been having server overloads. You should try resetting in the middle of the night

Sent via XDA Premium
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tgrgrd00:
I'm getting unable to contact server. So I'm thinking it is something on their end. I'm sure it will be back up soon.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] megabiteg:
Give it a few days, too many people subscribing or signing in to the service at the same time, servers might be up to their knees with requests (not that servers are people lol, but you guys should get the comment)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
its been trippin since yesterday
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kidromulous:
Mine is doing the exact same thing right now. I also have never had an issue. Weird
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] snick8467:
i called customer service. it's been down atleast 5 hours as i write this. They told me that "provisioning is down" and "cards are suspended". Sylvester claimed to be the training rep there, but couldn't tell me what that really meant, and said he had no other updates and couldn't say if it was a planned outage. I asked about transferring my money away from google wallet. he had to check with someone and came back and told me if i could give him my id, then he could have my money transferred in 30 to 45 days....

I asked if there was someone he could call to try and get an update. he said there was noone to call.

I asked how i would have been notified of this outage. he said google would email me...well i don't have an email...he said it's because google hasn't sent one.

guess the lesson here is don't rely on google wallet.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] skyheli:
This Google Wallet system is broke. This BETA crap needs to stop. I am still waiting on $40 dollars from getting a Nexus. They need to get it together.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] akodoreign:
I'm in this boat as well. I loaded 50 on wallet last Thursday. Was going to be my lunch allowance for the next 2 weeks. Now I go hungry today, and have to pack some PBJ for the rest of the work week. *sigh*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] andrusk:
I as well reset my wallet app this morning (in preparation for rooting) and now I'm stuck at "initializing your device". I really don't like this, it makes me uneasy. You would think google of all people would have the resources setup to deal with an influx of traffic.

I love google wallet and I hope they straighten these issues out.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] NissanNick:
Don't sweat it... The same thing happened to me... I was going to unroot and exchange the phone but then the next morning I thought I would give it one more try and it worked fine... I would give it a day.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] johamsandwich:
Glad to know that I'm not the only one having this issue. I tried resetting in preparation for rooting, but it got stuck at 99%, then it restarted. Ever since I haven't gotten it past initialization. D:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kidromulous:
Perhaps they're trying to put a stop this insecure element thing. Lets hope they realized it could potentially keep a lot of people from using wallet
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] snick8467:
Still broken, support still has no clue. I asked them about the transaction that says "sent" but i don't see any record for...they had to check.

tried to buy food overnight with the app, says sent, but the store never got it. had to pay with my real card. money network says if after 3 days it's still being held, to call back for a dispute.

horrible horrible tech support....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
wayyyyy too buggy for me, and if it come back online and all our secure elements are borked, they are gonna had a huge issue!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Just did reset on wallet cuz about to root and hangs in 99%. Damn. What to do? :confused:

sent from my Evo LTE, usually.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
nothing until google fixes the issue smh :-(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] husker91:
Yeah, I'm not convinced It's Google's fault though. I called money network earlier about the error and they said they were having provisioning issues so they shut down the services, she couldn't tell me how long it would be down.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
well saying its not our fault lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] randomrobbi:
Mine also got stuck at 99 percent. I went back after and it initialized like i was a new device and prompted me for setup.

since flashing a Rom it is not getting past initializing.

unsure what I should do.

Prob RUU and go to best buy tomorrow.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
mine went thru but after a reboot it got stuck again, so i just disabled it until they fix gwallet
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] randomrobbi:
Yeah I don't know what the Stuck at Initializing really means. I dont get an error about secure element being tampered with.

I relocked the bootloader and am running the RUU now. Will report back.

EDIT: Locked bootloader, flashed RUU. Still gets stuck at initializing device but doesn't throw any warnings about the secure element being failed. I'm just going to let it initialize all night I guess and if thats no dice and calling google doesn't help I will just have Best Buy exchange it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
according to them, it's nothing on our side, we just have to wait until it's fixed
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Must be region related as mine is fine... And shows balance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] freeza:
Look at you with your first successful thread =x.

I too thought it was my phone and gave them a call. Glad to know it isn't just me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
where are u located cuz I think it's more than region related, unless it just start working now, after a reboot i doubt it will

I think ive had one of those before lol, *going to check and see*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
In Ohio
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] snick8467:
whatever they were doing yesterday was resolved between 3 and 5pm eastern time for me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] skyheli:
AGREED.... Same here. Resolved in Florida.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
are yawl rooted? cuz many of us are still having the initializing problems and called them after that time and they said they were still having issues...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kcarpenter:
Still a giant Cluster F**k here.

If it's regional, I am in East Tennessee.

Not rooted, rebooted before I tried to initialize again.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
I am not rooted or unlocked
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] samdiggy:
I was prepping to unlock my bootloader so I reset G Wallet. Got stuck at 99%. So I called G Wallet support. He had me force stop the app, clear cache and storage, and reboot. I've been stuck initializing (still am) since. He then forwarded my issue up the chain and at 6:21pm EST I received this:

Hi Sam,

Thank you for getting in touch with our team. We're aware that Google

Wallet payment cards are unavailable and our engineering team is working

hard to make sure Google Wallet is working as intended. We will be sure to

let you know when full functionality has resumed.

Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,

Jeff

The Google Wallet Team​

FYI I'm in Pittsburgh

They haven't yet sent me an email saying that its fixed
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dropkickjohnny:
I'm getting the same error too. I am rooted and unlocked and I was resetting Google Wallet in preparation for flashing a new ROM. The resetting process got stuck at 99%, I then rebooted the device and now I am stuck at "Initializing your device" FWIW I am located in New Hampshire.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] purock:
Ditto. Holding pattern. I also forced stop, cleared cache and uninstalled update, rebooted the app, re-updated and still stuck at initialization.

Metro DC, rooted.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] skyheli:
Fully Rooted only. No Kernel change.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dropkickjohnny:
I tried wiping the cache and dalvic cache, still no dice :confused:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kcarpenter:
I don't think any of us are going to have any luck until Google confirms there issues are gone.

We should all Hope they have learned their lesson before the SGSIII launch or we will be in the same boat again, but probably for a longer period of time - there will be more SGS users than EVO LTE users.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
same thing with me, not rooted and it has been stuck on initializing ever since about 3 pm yesterday. called google wallet and they escalated me, haven't heard back yet
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dropkickjohnny:
I am wondering if it is safe to flash another ROM since when I reset Google Wallet it never made it past 99%
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jgalan14:
Is a problem with Google wallet they trying to solve it I contacted them with twitter
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] purock:
Same. Why don't you try it out and let me know? :D

I was all set to unlock the bootloader last night and cleared Google wallet only to hit a wall.

Damn that 1%. (Or is it damn the 99%) for always screwing up the balance in the world.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] butterbuns:
im waiting for it aswell.. signed up for wallet on 4/30 and they said that we should recieve the additional $40 in three weeks.. well its been almost 5
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
anyone have any success yet?