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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
really there's nothing to confirm which we already don't know. this method is working for only 1of 2 reasons. Or maybe even both

1) since its kill all activities when you leave and limit system processes to 1,there's a hell of alot more ram available. so the games and possibly other activities aren't starved for ram to continue to operate. Although Android is supposed to manage this itself and kill off any unused processes(on default settings) to make available ram for whatever activity you are doing currently. we shouldn't need to put developer settings like that as it severely cripples multitasking abilities. But people are willing to have that trade off until Asus or Google or nvidia gets it right with default settings.

2)performance is better since there's only going to be 1 extra process running in the background. therefore there will less apps crashing in the background. these crashes in the background of certain apps or Widgets can cause app or game instability with whatever you using currently.

nothing much too this as we can directly see what this mod does. what it does is leave alot more free RAM available for the single app or game you using at the moment.

as for wifi improvements, likely placebo. there's nothing with this mod that even affects or influences wifi performance. any perceived gains are placebo. wifi performance/speeds/etc..always fluctuate anyways. meaning you can do 5 speed tests back to back and will get different results everytime. some can be drastically better or worse. too many variables that influence wifi.

so this mod is good for the meantime. especially if you not pressed about multitasking. Good find, Cannandy ;)

remember though, as i mentioned in a previous post, that after applying this mod, if you reset or reboot for any reason, the number of processes in developers settings will go back to standard limit. so make sure to put it back on 1.

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Something else I was thinking also. If we want to test the theory of background app/process crashes causing instability, you can go into developer settings and enable the "Show all ANR". so it should show any and every app, even background ones that crash. of course you need to leave everything else default. then we may be able to pinpoint certain apps or processes crashing that's causing issues. racially if the dame ones are crashing on all of our primes.

just a thought ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Hey Demandarin! I agree with your above post, using these methods does limit the multitasking allowed by the Android system, but the trade-off is a much smoother running Prime., so this is fine for me..plus, I dont need so many apps freely running in the background unless I need them to anyway :)

Thanks for the reminder on how rebooting changes the background processes back to standard, I forgot to update my thread on that. As far as wifi, I think the browser just SEEMS to load pages faster maybe because of less apps hogging the system for internet?? I dont know, but it really does seem to load pages quicker...

Well I have been going a week now and have not had one SOD, game crash or general system issues..now I can really show off what the Prime can do without worrying about a glitch popping up. :p

Thanks friend
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaycustom:
First of all, thanks for adding my info to the OP:) Since I wasn't expecting to be featured in OP, maybe tonight I could add a little more detailed info ( not much more, don't worry) that I didn't include in my initial findings.

AHH! Gotta run, I'll be back in a few to edit this post with a thought and a question I have.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
You welcome! I thought your test was insightful. Looking forward to your update ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] allthatinny:
Most 3d games don't freeze on my prime i normally use Advance Task Killer and kill process before loading up games and i bearly load widgets now i notice widgets kill performance alot, my prime is always running in performance mode at 1.6Ghz and for my browser i use Browser2ram apk found on here someone made cant remember his name but my browsing exp has be awhole lot better, so i have no complaints at all!! am running AOKP Rom
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I think one thing people forget that, even though they can be helpful, some widgets eat up a LOT of ram. Tablet owners tend to use more widgets then smartphone owners because of the bigger screen space, but these things can really bog down a system, especially those that are not optimized correctly. I dont use widgets anymore myself, I would rather just click on the app itself to conserve battery and cpu.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] omac_ranger:
I'm not a huge fan of widgets either, but the new HD Widgets update and the Asus battery meter make me keep coming back. They look so damn awesome; and the asus one is just really helpful.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
I would call it placebo if I percieved a speed change or snappier performance. I call using my prime from my desk to play words with friends unprecedented. I constantly use my 3 year old sons ipad 1 to play words with friends from my desk because my prime generally cant provide me the placebo of showing an active internet connection there. Now it does. obviously something is wonky and telling my prime the low connection is not good enough and it should just disconnect. now that voice in its head is silent.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
My friend had this same feedback to me after performing the fix. He could not use his Prime to surf the internet in his backyard because he barely had one bar with the distance from his router. Using my suggestions, he swears he can now surf the web in the exact same spot where he could not before. I understand what Demandarin is saying, and it makes sense. But I am really starting to believe that killing the background apps that are trying to connect to the net does provide some signal strength improvement. It's like this, when you are downloading apps from the marketplace, and then try to use the net, the loading speeds are decreased a bit, but if you are ONLY surfing the net from the browser, there is no hit in internet speed. I think this is a side-effect of preventing all those update-happy apps from loading, a somewhat better internet speed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
LOL! Just use widgets in moderation..two and three should be fine, but some people have widgets on almost every screen, keeping the cpu constantly working. Now she can do it, but we all need a break from work sometimes right? :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
I have not allowed an app to auto update since the first time one locked me up the week I got my prime so I dont think thats it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Hmm, I would say that it has to be app related, maybe there are a few still trying to connect even though access was denied? Not sure, but it just seems like it HAS to be app-related, keeping them from running MAY provide help to alleviate the stress on a weaker internet signal. But I am only guessing an hoping. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaycustom:
Yo, sorry to change gears here from the WiFi, just wanted to let you know that I have been running without the dev settings most of the day. I used it as I would any other day, doing a little bit of everything. Now that I've done that, I'm gonna check out the memory usage, number of user/ system apps running and average CPU load. After that, I'm gonna reset and enable the dev settings, and record the same system info. The point of doing a more thorough test than before, is because MRHANNADY was nice enough to include my results in the OP, and I want to give everyone using or considering using these settings the most accurate info I can. The last test was a quick comparison, running the Prime about 30+ minutes in each mode while randomly running apps to simulate general use. THIS test will be more off a real world test, running in each mode for basically a whole day. I've also got a few things to try:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Sounds good, would like to see your before and after results. Should be as your first test and what Demandarin mentioned, these settings really free up a whole lot of ram and the CPU, so the end results of this is a much more faster/stable tablet. I dont know if its due to ICS or the tegra kernal (or both), but the memory management is not working as well as it was intended to. Or it can also just be that some of our apps are just not programmed correctly and are using too much ram/CPU.

I'll update my OP when you have your final results Jaycustom ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaycustom:
Cool:cool:

The Primes been running with dev settings enabled for about an hour now. I don't think I'd have to run it as long as the default test, because with the settings enabled everything is really limited to a minimum. No multitasking, only one process at most, etc...there isn't really any big buildup of running apps and memory usage. But I'll probably let it run tonight, and post tomorrow morning.

Also, I've been thinking about something while testing this.

Ever since Android 2.3 and above, task killers are said to be pointless. They can actually do more harm than good, but that's a whole other thread so I won't get into that here.

Bottom line is Android has it's own built in task manager/ memory management, and it usually knows how to handle itself just fine.

BUT, this thread shows that multitasking and memory management can be a lot better on the Prime. So I am going to try not a task killer ( as in one click kills all apps ) but a task manager...where limits can be set for an apps memory/ CPU usage. I also think dropping below 400mb or so of free memory is when some people may experience problems, so setting a minimum of 400mb free memory would be worth checking out.

Now the Androwook custom ROM I'm running is super smooth and fast, even without the enabled dev settings... this fix just makes it fly even faster, at the cost of losing multitasking.

If I can keep most of the performance increase this fix gives the Prime, but enable ( minimal) multitasking, that would be a win-win...:D

After I record system stats for the Prime running this fix tomorrow, I'll go back to running without this fix, but running a task manager, and see what I get.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 131313:
Don't you guys think we might just should start disabling these little crappy services which are calling big brother and do whatever bad background task.

Maybe we should start a list about what everybody found out disabling these (any). Like this we should find the culprit, don't you agree?

To start :

My prime runs pretty smooth to me.(After softreset or hardreset before I put on my apps I always first do get rid of the hybrid setting which mentions MrCannady, by ticking, saving and unticking it, see my previous posts)

I get rid of all mickeymouse settings and set the w-lan straight. than I turn off:

google+

@vibe Free

Amazon Kindle

GMail

PixWe

Street View

Talk

TalkBack

WebStorage

Zinio

haven't come further yet, but as I said, mine runs pretty smooth like that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] halljo:
whats means "SOFT RESET" `?

all apps removed `?

all data removed ?

or what ;) ?

THANKS FOR ANSWEAR :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Sot reset is just a way of restarting the Prime and killing all background processes. It is different from shutting dwn and restarting the device, which dos not seem to stop all the background processe like a soft reset does. Soft resettingg does not delete any apps though, just keeps them running for a bit, so you will have to apply the development settings right after the system reboots. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I have those apps running, they havent given me any problems yet. I think the bigger culprits are these the third party apps that we download that are supposed to "enhance" our devices (task managers, volume boosters etc) Some of apps are not functioning properly and just eat away at the ram and cpu, or are constanly trying to pull data from the internet. The more of these unnofficial apps you have running, the more problems you will encounter. I no longer use any of those so called enhancers, and using my settings, my device runs great now. :)

If the root of the problem lies in these tthird party apps which are causing issues with our devices, removing them and rebooting the Prime should help.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] halljo:
THANKS FOR THE FAST ANSWEAR

witch dev settings do you mean ?

do you have an step by step guide :D ? THANKS one more time
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
You welcome. Are you running stock or using a different rom? If you are running stock, just see the step by step instructions on my OP...click on the development tab on the Prime under ettings and follow the instructions that I posted after a soft reset.

Let us know if it works for you
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] halljo:
okay for now it works for me THANKS !!! :-)

but how often i have to do that ?

i have play Nova3 now ,and No lag YIHA :D

EDIT : CRASH after change between sixaxiss app and NOVA 3 :( ???
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
You should only have toapply the settings once, unless you have to restart the tab, to which you should soft-reset and reapply the settings.

Hmm, try the game again and others and see if they crash. If so, then tr the soft reset again, being sure to apply the settings as soon as the device starts up. Games like Nova 3 and the others no longer lag once the settings are aplied :)

Good luck
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] allthatinny:
I abuse my prime with Widgets and live wallpaper and I say it takes a serious hit, am talking about live wallpaper with weather update and weather widgets, calender, facebook widgets, instagram, name it i had on very screen, and programs force closed frequently, even my net speed slowed IMO from the constant seeking of information update from widgets and LWP, if you could avoid all these things you will be fine, just stick to the K.I.S.S rule :P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Exactly. We become addictied to all those fancy widgets, but the really can hamper a system's performance. I wont say that Apple was right in not making them availble on their Idevices, because it's always good to have the OPTION of using what you want, but just remember that they can really hamper your devices performance. So, whle they look nice, your devices overall performance will suffer as a result.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dagrim1:
So if we limit the multitasking and remove as many of those things that are one of the reasons going for android things are working pretty fine? Nice...

Seriously though, good to see that there are options to limit the issues but the prime is about the only high end android device suffering as much from all this and I for one value atleast a number of widgets (agenda, mail, bookmarks, weather) too much to remove them.

They are one of the main reasons why I ended up with android in the first place...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Its a memory management issue, which will be resolved (software issue) I never said that you should remove all widgets, keep what you want..I am just stating that widgets can hamper the performance on ANY android device as they do use cpu/available memory. This is why Idevices generally run smoother than ours, they way their OS managers memory usage. But again, I would prefer to have the freedom to use what I want on my paid for devic, you just have to be smart on what widgets you use, if you start experiencing performance issues after downloding them, then identify the culprit and remove it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Although, this method works great for majority of games, some resorted back to their old ways. Mostly mass effect. When i first applied this over week ago, everything was fine. But I've been constantly going back n forth to default comparing. Now with this tweak, even with me having over 600mb free ram, Mass Effect still messes up. With the new build, all games I've tested work fine, on default settings, except for Shadowgun THD & Mass Effect. Now with this mod, I can get Shadowgun working fine. BUT Mass Effect has a mind of its own. Sometimes it works, whether default or developer settings, sometimes it doesn't. It especially likes to freeze up when alot I'd going on on the screen at once. For example I'm stuck on the first big boss stage on Mass Effect. The one with the Mech robot. Now when he throws that energy bomb that puts that red bubble around you, the game likes to flicker/act up then.

I want to get Nova3 but afraid it will act up like the others. Ill test my modern combat 3 to see how well THST does on the new build. New build (default settings)fixes "MOST" gaming issues but there's a couple of games that still love to act up no matter what.

I saw your video. My browser performs just as good/better on new build on default settings. So i can still have complete multitasking abilities with great browser performance on .28.

People who are unlocked, keep an eye on AndroWoki thread. Big things coming soon ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jemberton:
Sounds good, I unlocked this morning!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Demandarin, you just cant have a faster browser than me man! lol. About Mass Effect, it's odd, but mine has not had one issue since I changed my settings, and Nova works fine also with no lag. Can you try this for me and then play Mass Effect? Soft reset again, an in development settings, DO NOT select Kill ALL Processes, juts select to only allow one background process, then try Mass Effect again. I was told that this setting helped for some having issues with Mass Effect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Guys, I am going to post another video (better quality) of me playing Mass Effect and Nova,. I will also show my running processes on my Tablet. Maybe this can help solve why Mass Effect works for some and crashes for others Video coming soon
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Ill test this out. I wondered about running it like that also. Ill report back once I do.

Update: so far this sseems to work. I was finally able to beat that mech robot. Although there was a graphical glitch and only half of the robot showed up..lol. so I cheated and used my energy bomb to kill him as I couldn't die from any of his attacks since his upper body was missing....lmfao. so far so good. Need to play longer though. Had to cut it off. Grocery shopping time ;) thanks for the tip buddy. Me n others appreciate you coming up with this temp fix. Will report back later on longer gaming session on Mass effect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
How many here with gaming issues are rooted & have Ezoverclock app installed?

I saw a senior member say his games kept crashing, no matter what settings, with this installed. he uninstalled the app, then rebooted and all graphic heavy games worked fine. he repeated this 7 times. That overclock app seemed to be the culprit of his games crashing.

I dont have root anymore but I still had that app installed. I uninstalled it after reading his post and some post exchanges with him. I asked him basically how does he know for sure. he said he repeated the scenario like 7 times. so there might be something to this. although I uninstalled the app, I haven't had the chance to test this theory yet. its worth looking into. maybe that app has a bug or rogue code Causing games instabilities in some peoples prime & tf-300.

Put developer settings on default and test this out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Great, that setting seems to work best for all games, so I will update my OP. That's called cheating man, you got lucky on that one though..I am still trying to beat him lol!. Glad that I can help people, but thats what XDA is about. :)

Take care buddy
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
@demandarin ,Since this temporary fix is confirmed to work, maybe we should make this thread into a sticky until the next firmware is released? This will be a great help for others who can not play their games and are probably unaware of the temporary fix.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I am not rooted, but I would bet anything that the main culprit are these apps that we that are supposed to enhance the device causing conflict with some of our games/apps. Maybe people should start deleting these types of apps one at a time to find which one is causing the gaming/rebooting issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
The glitch was on first mech robot. not the green monster with weapons attached.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Oh! Well sometimes glitches can be blessings lol. I wish I had a glitch at the monster with he weapons attached. That bastard keeps beating me! lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I just sent Asus/Gary all of this info and link to this thread. hopefully this gives them new insight or possible solution to this issue, if they don't know about it already
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Great, hopefully it will help. If it does, then Asus should nickname the next firmware .Cannady instead of a stupid number dont you think? :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cmotion:
Excited to try this out. Just a quick question about the soft resetting... Should it be done while the tablet is on or off? Does it matter? Thanks in advance.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Hey there. Do it with the tablet on. Follow the instructions exactly an you will notice the performance boost immediately as well as game/browser fixes.

Good luck ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
UPDATE

since removing THST overclock app, my mass effect game has been running fine. No needing to touch developer settings. Game played fine with less than 350mb ram left. This app may have been the cause of my gaming issues. Ill update more if it continues to play flawlessly or revert back to its Old ways. I still have to test out ShadowgunTHD with it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Hey man. Yep, I'm sure most of our issues are from installed apps. I am not rooted though and I still had problems with a few games. I am going to download the update now and see how it performs versus my settings. Will report back soon :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Ok guys, so far I am really impressed with this update! I have been using my temporary development settings for the last few days which worked perfectly, but killed most of the multitasking abilities. So far with this update, I have had ZERO issues. My browser is quick, and all games work! Also, you guys need to remember, after every update, be sure to REBOOT your device before using it. So far, so good Asus!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaycustom:
Hey man... that's good to hear. I've heard great things about the update since last night as far as better performance, smoothness, and even a few with better WiFi. But as far as I know, none of them had tried your dev settings.

So that's why I'm asking your opinion, since you discovered this fix and know how much it really boosts performance. So, how would you say the update compares to your fix, performance wise? I'm unlocked so no OTA update for me...I do have Androwook ROM with the .28 update in it downloaded on my Prime, but I can't install until I get home from work.:(