yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Please stop making up nonsense figures.

There are (before this post) a total of 1,289 posts in this thread. Claiming there are only two dozen people affected means you believe that either this thread is dominated by people who have no problems, or that you believe on average every affected person has posted on average over fifty times in the thread.

That is complete and utter rubbish.

Correct.

Yet another made-up figure which you won't be able to provide any evidence to back up.

Advice made entirely based on made-up figures and unsupportable assertions. Per your own statement, "No one here knows the percentage of phones affected or whether phones not having issues now will develop them in the future. If they say they do they're just guessing."

You are just guessing, yet you're using that guess as a statement of fact to somebody who is trying to make a purchasing decision.

Poor play.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Probably 1/2 (another made up figure) by the same people restating their positions over and over again. Prove me wrong. Go back and count the number of people posting that actually have the problem. Be sure to exclude the posts that are general Wi-Fi issues that have nothing to do with the connectors. Also exclude the people w/o the problem freaking out that they may have it at some point in the future. Remember the flickering and missing SD storage threads? While they were at their peaks these were the poll results when asked "is your One X perfect."

You can all whip yourselves up in to a frenzy speculating how awful the One X's problems may be but I'm still going with an emotional vocal minority making things appear far worse than they really are. Want to know when a problem is serious? Here’s a hint. Look for people with high post and thanks counts actively participating.
[HTC One X] coos lick:
If they promise to take back/ fix if it develops in say the next 2 years, and use good repair companies and not left out of pocket, then I would be happy.

Really wish there was a way to test without pressing/ squeezing the phone and risking damaging it - say some sort of diagnostic app to analyse the wifi signal while the phone was laid flat?

Now if I was HTC, and was reading this thread, I wonder what I could do to generate some good buzz on this site.....

(hint http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1604300)

;)
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Not picking on you particularly but this has been posted a couple of times. If your Wi-Fi's working well, why do you care what happens when you press or squeeze the phone? I can't think of anything I'd do normally that would put pressure on the phone in the areas that people are concerned about. I guess smashing it in to the pocket of skinny jeans but I'd never do that anyway for fear of stress cracking the display if I bumped in to anything.
[HTC One X] Garoto1973:
Question, on your picture , is the contact to the left of the screwdriver also the wifi antenna or is it the 3g antenna? I adjusted them both thinking both were wifi.

I am getting awesome reception on both 3g and wifi now, will continue to support this thread until HTC gives a definite solution!

It was a great feeling to fix it by DIY but I was lucky not to damage the soft buttons contacts as some other folks.
[HTC One X] mattuk:
I'm sorry but what the hell does post count and thanks counters actually mean to the point of this thread? Whether somebody who knows how to write ROMs in their sleep and have 5k posts and 900 thanks, or whether they googled and registered here to join in with 1 post bears no relation to the fact that we thought there was a problem, discussed it and got results. You have an awesome reason to counter this issue as your HOX is functioning fine, despite it having more air miles than most people i know (and im not one of these armchair engineers you class most of the posters here as) and having survived multiple drops knocks etc.

Whatever reasons you have for jumping in at this point (as soon as HTC posted i might add) Please don't jump on the thread and start labeling us "emotional". It serves no purpose but to just wind people up in what quite frankly, has been a great media for people with this issue to seek advice or log their experience.

I just read some of your comments about users in the One X forum. To be honest i don't even know why you bother posting in this thread.
[HTC One X] randombirt:
I have no idea my friend what the contacts are, i just followed instruction from the beginning of the thread and only touched the two in the location of the antenna. Also tbh i didn't even realise i had a problem until i came across this thread, i just figured the wifi on this wasn't as good as my previous desire s, but once i knew it began to bug me, and yes i agree the diy fix feels good, now i truly have a faultless one x!:)
[HTC One X] accord99:
You could use an app like Wi-Fi Analyzer. If the 2.4 GHz wi-fi signal strength is -40 dBm or higher a few feet away from the router and still within the green zone when in another room, then there is no problem. Of course it may still occur in the future but there's no need to worry about it now.

The only time you need to press on it would be if the signal strength is really weak even when next to the router.
[HTC One X] bigoliver:
HTC's warranty promises they will repair/replace your phone for 2 years so that's no problem.

If gently squeezing the phone damages the phone, then I'd want it replacing anyway so don't worry about it, just only squeeze real gently. Trust me, it's really noticeable without pressing hard.

What a great idea, HTC offering s-off to the community that exposed the flaw to them, as a way of thank you. Good pr for them and would cost them very little.

HTC what do you think?

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC One X] randombirt:
i just read that again... Yeah i adjusted both too, i thought they were both for wifi lol. My 3g was good anyway and had no issues there.
[HTC One X] supadupahands:
Ok Update again i just got dropped of my new handset from Orange, set it all up and immediately can see an improvement in wi-fi reception in areas where i was getting none/dropouts

phone is back how I like it and less a couple of scratches I had already put on it, Thanks Orange, thanks HTC and thanks XDA.
[HTC One X] mattuk:
Good to hear, which Serial you got this time?
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Frankly, I have no interest in wasting my time proving you wrong. What next, proving that the grass is green, the sky is blue, and water is wet?

I'm on the verge of putting you on ignore for trolling, to be honest.

Straw man. Whether or not those threads found real problems, and whether or not that poll is accurate, has absolutely zero bearing on whether this problem is real and/or common.

Oooo, well aren't we all very self-important and can post a lot.

I think you'll find if you come down off your high-and-mighty stool, the peons can have real problems and identify when they have them, too.

The repeated belittling of anybody who has a problem or believes even there's a problem marks you as likely either a troll or a fanboy. Both are known for high post counts, and thanks counts are easily built up to defend a shaky reputation.
[HTC One X] hamza arbeed:
I fixed my phone

Thanks man, I thought it was a software problem because I keep flashing new roms every few days.

I opened my phone using my nails( wait till they grow up if you wanna use my tutorial:rolleyes:) the cover was sticked or glued with the phone so I had to pass my nail around the phone screen edge to separate it as much as I could. and the phone was glued not only around the sides. Also it was glued from the bottom so you have to be patient and not to separate at one time. I used some force till I thought I would break it.

I didn't solder it like the tutorial in the video. I just moved the pins upward

Thanks again
[HTC One X] vkvedam:
Morning All

So we've got this published on Cnet UK as well. Have you had any update from HTC since? Good to hear that your phone has been fixed supadupahands. I do have this issue but I've never had a drop out so far. Should I just call up HTC today and just check what instruction they've got from Taiwan or should I get in touch with Phones4U as it's been just over 10 days since I've had this phone.

Thanks...
[HTC One X] supadupahands:
SH24, I checked with bluetooth this morning with my headset at work and it's a massive improvement >1m to <20m, I'm a happy bunny :p
[HTC One X] olly2097:
I've an early build one x and have no issues. I guess I must be a lucky one.
[HTC One X] vkvedam:
An update from my side...

Just been on the phone and spoken to a person/manager. Advised me to go to Phones4U and give HTC a call from there. Manager's going to have a chat with the Phones4U manager and get me a replacement then and there itself. Sounds promising and fingers crossed this piece doesn't exhibit that issue.

I'll update you all later with the batch number as well.

Ven
[HTC One X] mohaimed:
i am planning to buy a second hand HOX. i couldnt test the wifi problem. the serial is SH23. how to check the wifi hardware issue. when i was seeing it. it was working fyn. full bars. the local shop said it was used 1month. is there anyway to check how many days it was used? is there any way to check the wifi problem before buying it?
[HTC One X] dalecook:
Wifi grip problem

So HTC UK just offered me free collection, repair & return for the common Wifi issue. Can't connect unless in same room etc. I can suffer being without a phone (AGAIN) but that's it now, no more chances.

My printed checklist for including with the return has #XDAWIFI as the reported fault, I didn't mention XDA but that's the forum's power.
[HTC One X] Rhino-2-Horny:
may i ask is there going to be a mention of batch start date for altered batchs at some point in the very near future?

would help calm the tension with a lot of people?
[HTC One X] Htc_One_X:
I am currently waiting for my handset to be returned to me, contacted my advisor to no avail, and apparently can't provide shipping details for it.... getting annoyed now promised me I'll have it back by Monday, and a swift replacement.... to make it worse, just had my orange bill of £93!!!!! Guess what it was.... mobile data..?
[HTC One X] ToddeSwe:
Send the bill to HTC :)

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[HTC One X] Nathan1988:
just a bit of solder

I just put two lumps of solder on the back case took me about 20mins since after opening it i realized my soldering iron didn't work i can now go out in to the back yard and have 2 bars on it and full in the kitchen when before it struggled to find my WiFi
[HTC One X] Htc_One_X:
Ha ha I wish doubt it'll work...

Sent from my ICS Acer iconia whilst waiting for my OneX...
[HTC One X] StrongOneX:
They are paying all the expenses. I just sent my shipping and repair bill to HTC, no problem
[HTC One X] benitorios:
Is heat an indication that my HOX is faulty?

Hi,

I have a HOX with serial no. starting with HT23. My wifi connection is overall good, and I don't want to risk causing the problem by testing and squeezing the back of the phone.

However, under heavy wifi usage, the phone gets quite hot in the area at the back between the camera and volume button. To the point that the screen also gets very hot and flickers.

Could this overheating be a sign that the wifi connections are not optimal and maybe have some resistance?

I'm running 1.29.401.11 firmware, by the way.

If anyone has experienced the same overheating issue on a device that they know was faulty, I'd love to hear about it. That would confirm my suspicions...

Thanks!
[HTC One X] ToddeSwe:
Hi

Today my SH253W got this, so tomorrow I will be doing my 5:th DOA.

Was very glad when I got this 25 but until we get those fixed devices out on the market we have a ticking bomb in our hands.

When I left for a dentist appointment I charged my device for an hour, after this o could see my connection getting worse and ending with just the dot left on the WiFi symbol.

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[HTC One X] bigoliver:
It could be, however this thread can make people paranoid too. Your phone maybe fine.

If you are still within your DOA return period I would return it to the place you bought it and complain that it overheats and flickers. Ask for a replacement and get the latest serial numbered phone they have. Hopefully this one will be ok.

If you are out of the DOA, I wouldn't worry too much yet. I understand that the screen flicker is fixed by a software update but can take around a week to recalibrate the screen and the heat thing when playing demanding games is normal (to some degree).

If you do notice your WiFi weakening or your flicker heat problems don't go way, then I would call HTC and deal with them for a repair if deemed needed.

I am with 3uk and their customer service is terrible, I've been waiting over 3 weeks for my phone back from repair :( HTC have been great about the issue, I guess that's the benefit in buying a reputable brand like HTC.
[HTC One X] twistednl:
Hi there,

About the heavy WiFi usage and the heat that is generated, I had same issue last week and posted it here. I for sure have the known WiFi issue and think it might be related to the heat although I'm not sure. In case my during a download of 800mb navigation map.

The screen flickering was I my case most visible when look at images I made with my hox. After update .11 is was gone right away. Keep your eye on the reception though since that issue is acknowledge by HTC. Good luck and please don't get paranoid :p
[HTC One X] bigoliver:
Still waiting for my phone to come back from 3uk :(

Maybe the 3 stands for 3+ weeks to get a repair done, they estimate Monday now, it keeps getting later.
[HTC One X] atrako1973:
UNBELIEVEBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! almost 4 weeks waiting !!!!!!!!:eek:
[HTC One X] ToddeSwe:
Heard from a friend who called Swedish support today and here it takes 6-7 weeks to repair.

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[HTC One X] twistednl:
HTCnl claims a repair within 8 to 10 working days so approx 2 weeks.

This is including sending time.

I will wait for a bit cause need my phone to often. Will ask provider for replacement.
[HTC One X] Zulake:
I've been waiting for over almost a month by now and it's still "in repair"...
[HTC One X] ToddeSwe:
Must ask you guys what you had done if you was inside your doa timelimit:

Sent your phone for repair or made doas until you got a newer batch that are the new improved one?

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[HTC One X] bigoliver:
If HTC claim 8-10 working days including postage times then I feel that is reasonable.

I think 15 working days should be a max, it would be great if carriers and manufacturers garenteed your phone back within 15 working days or they replace it with a new one. Seems fair to me but I don't think carriers would like the idea.

In future ill probably buy my phones through Amazon, they have great customer care.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC One X] YorubaDey:
When these new devices starts rolling out, do you think it's reasonable that I demand a brand new phone? After the issue has occured on mine phone of course. I really don't want to settle for a repair.
[HTC One X] jangrewe:
I dropped my HT23DW off at a local T-Mobile (DE) shop after showing them the issue, they said i'll get a new device (hopefully) tomorrow when mine is picked up.

They were a bit hesitant at first, even wrote on the RMA slip that the signal drops rapidly when squeezing the case, i had to write the real description down by hand because they couldn't understand it.

I'm hoping for a device from a different production line, is there any data which serials are the most unlikely to be affected?
[HTC One X] bigoliver:
Hard to say, for example if the new phones only have an improved case and when they repair they put your phone in one of these new cases I guess that's fine, on the flip side, and if they just bodge job it then no that's not reasonable.

HTC will surely do a good job of the repair, they won't want them all coming back again or the extra publicity that would bring. I'm guessing they will fix the phones properly now they know what the problem is.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
You mean like this? ;)

Samsung Galaxy S III is hot: bursts into flames and melts through its own casing

By Mat Smith posted Jun 20th 2012 3:54PM

It doesn't look good. This Galaxy S III apparently malfunctioned while in an in-car holster, causing some substantial melting and burn marks across the lower half of the device. The global HSPA+ iteration of Samsung's new flagship apparently sparked into white flames, followed by a bang. While it's certainly not the first smartphone to implode in transit, the damage -- along the base but separate to the charging port -- looks pretty substantial and although the screen still apparently worked, reception was dead. The phone has been whisked off to a repair center through phone retailer Carphone Warehouse for the full autopsy. User dillo2k10 was left unscathed, but it's apparently left some nasty molten plastic remain on the inside of his car. Hit up the gallery link below for some more scorch-marked close-ups.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
[HTC One X] adamgaltress:
I haven't been online in a while guys! :(

but I just looked on cnet and this was put up yesterday, linking back to the thread. I tipped them off about a week ago but they didn't post anything until now..

here is the link http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc...d-as-htc-apologises-for-wi-fi-issue-50008314/ :)
[HTC One X] dingdonghei:
I emailed HTC Norway today about this issue. I barely get a signal at home anymore. When I first bought the phone it had the best signal I've ever had, regardless of device. I, perhaps foolishly, and for the sake of honesty and pure principle, also told them that I have unlocked the bootloader, because this is not an issue caused by me unlocking my phone. I'm really looking forward to their answer. I will take this all the way if they blame the unlocked bootloader. We have very strong consumer rights in Norway, and if this doesn't sort it self out, I'm taking it to the Norwegian Consumer Counsil in a heartbeat.
[HTC One X] BeciMester:
Another self fix, another success story. :D

My WiFi issue got so bad that if I was in the same room with the router I'd have the dot and 2 bars lit up, but if I moved to the next room only the dot was lit up.

I didn't solder anything, just adjusted the connectors - all of them, every single one on the board. Now not only my WiFi is perfect, but at my computer desk where I used to have 1-2 bars of cell signal, I now have 4 with the phone sitting on the desk, and 5 (full) if I lift it up.

Taking it apart was fairly easy. For those still on the fence: you should start at the bottom of the phone, as in the video in the OP. There are 3 little 'claws' at the bottom of the glass, roughly where the 3 buttons are, free these first. The polycarbonate back is pretty flexible but don't force it too much. When you can see the 3 little claws, proceed to the sides, there are more claws there, 3-3 on each side! (I didn't expect these and wondered why the glass doesn't separate from the body already.) The first one is about an inch from the bottom of the phone. Pull the phone apart slowly, you have to work against glue: the glue is a narrow stripe of double sided tape around the edge of the phone, it's not too strong. When you disengaged all of the claws, look into the gap you created at the bottom: the golden brown flexi cables belong to the glass part. You may see black stretchy bits, this is double-sided sticky insulation from around the speaker, in my case it was stuck to the flexi cable, pulling it away from the glass - I nearly broke the cable. You can either cut the insulation or slowly remove it from the flexi cable like I did. When you're sure that the flexi cable is free and unhurt, pull the glass part downwards, it's wedged in the plastic at the top where the secondary camera is.

In my case the part of the WiFi connector that doesn't let it be pulled up too much was broken. I removed the broken bit and carefully adjusted the connector using a toothpick (I didn't want to use anything too hard as there are tiny capacitors around). Did the same with all the other connectors, including the two aluminum bits next to the speaker inside the plastic backplate.

Guys, please please be very careful when adjusting the connectors, they're extremely small and thin and very easy to break, and then your only option is soldering. I took my time and the whole process lasted a bit more than an hour.

TL;DR: If you decide to do it, just be careful, go slowly and you'll be fine; it's worth doing and works a charm. :)

Thanks for everyone who shared their experience and their pictures! :cool:
[HTC One X] crossmission:
Got a white s/n : HT23L******* no issues, so far though fingers crossed. Hope all the guys affected will get either a replacement or somehow their phones fixed. Good luck guys.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Loads more pics here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79312161&utm_source

Interesting that it *wasn't* the battery that went. You can see that's fine, and the user actually states that the phone still worked[/i] after this, just with no radio.

Incidentally, Engadget says that it "apparently left some nasty molten plastic remain on the inside of his car", which sounds a lot scarier than "it slightly burned a piece of plastic on the inside of my car" as stated by the user.

Have to wonder though: what the hell in a smartphone has the energy to burst into flames to that degree, other than the battery? Bad capacitor, maybe?
[HTC One X] cb2000a:
Interesting, I returned my One X to ATT because it constantly dropped network connection (both wifi and ATT network). I got a Samsung Note and could not be happier. If HTC wants to improve their market share they are going to have to get better in the QC area.
[HTC One X] samsaBEAR:
I've been having these WiFi issues, but not even the grip solves mine. At the moment it's at full signal (annoyingly), just resting on my sofa, but when I pick it up to use the signal will drop right down to the dot.

I was wondering whether my router could possibly be the solution to this? It's pretty old, but I'm still in the same room as it now and, like I said, I generally get the dot and a bar.

The reason I post this here is that I just got off a chat with a HTC rep, and they said that I could send my phone to get fixed, and I could go through either them or O2. I was just wanted to know what who you guys think I should send my phone through (if it isn't a router problem), which would be quicker?
[HTC One X] Goldenrooster:
What are the experiences with doing the fix yourself and getting the notification light in the correct position again? Will it be just as bright as before or is there a chance that it will get misaligned?
[HTC One X] DAKC28:
Help

Hi Jeff,

This is my HTC ticket number 12JPCW25ENA000036 can you help?

Thanks.
[HTC One X] jangrewe:
I just got a new device back from the T-Mobile shop! This one doesn't seem to have the issue - i compared the signal strength to my SGS2 and it seems to be pretty much identical.

s/n is HT24RW*
[HTC One X] djaidyc:
Had my phone back fixed for 3 days and now the problem is back and worse than before,really not happy
[HTC One X] Htc_One_X:
Update!!

Hi guys,

Just had a email from Htc Customer Service, Phones that are replacing our defective phones that are being outsourced from Somewhere else, as they have been affected by the recent Flash floods in taiwan.

She has expressed her apologize and assured there on there way. so long and short of it is, any one who was promised new handset and still yet to receive it, We'll just have to wait. My thoughts are with Those who are lost or have lost their lives. . . :(