yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RollTribe:
I know, there's no reason to now. Maybe because of the RILs not working with JB? Idk
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] joshuadjohnson22:
What is the best radio for Atlanta area? Didn't see one on the map and wondered of anyone found one

I'm in Canton Georgia and see my kernel and radio. Do u think I should flash anything
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sarichter:
I am on ICS and its smoking fast... virtually no issues with it at all... bit I'm using a sense ROM.

-from the trunk of your car...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JEANRIVERA:
could anyone dump the new radio from the ota update from at&t please released today?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
New ATT Radios

Are up in the OP...and here:

CM 10.x: http://d-h.st/DcT

SENSE: http://d-h.st/Aez
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] evilbobvu:
Have you try it yet Taylor?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ceo4eva:
Can anyone recommend a radio to use if I'm on T-Mobile or does it not matter? Live in the east coast, specifically Maryland
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
I have, speeds are slightly improved from 3.17 as far as I can tell. Haven't had much time to test...still at work ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cbatiste1993:
There's a Google map with which radios are used in which areas in the OP.

Sent from my HTC One XL running ViperXL 3.2.6 & ElementalX 5.0
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] evilbobvu:
good enough for me. i'll try it in a bit.

Thanks
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JEANRIVERA:
Is there is specific reason why does sense radios doesn't come with ril anymore?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedailyl3af:
I think because they are included in the zip now.

Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JEANRIVERA:
No, they are not it's just only the radio.img iside the zip
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Negative. It's for a couple reasons:

1) There's some RIL version compatibility issues when using the pre-1.89 RIL with newer ROMs.

2) There's not really any difference between the RIL files unless the RIL version gets bumped (which has happened once so far)

3) Amount of work v.s. observed benefit. Its a pain in the butt to have to find a ROM with that baseband, extract the system.img pull all the files, make a separate zip, etc, etc and at the end of the day it doesn't seem to make much of a difference at all.

If you really want the RIL files, download the newest Radio+RIL zip and locate all the files in it in the Sense ROM that matches the baseband. Replace the files in the zip (both the radio.img file and everything in the system folder) and flash.

AOSP Roms are building their own RIL's from Qualcomm source, so dont do this^^ if you're running CM, AOKP, PA, etc.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JEANRIVERA:
Got it I will try when I get home and then share it after testing!!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
PM me if you run into any snags and I'll see if i can help you out.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JEANRIVERA:
Ok I'm working right now, I get home by 5:00am local time I'm from Puerto Rico!! I'll do it when I get home
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RollTribe:
My speeds are actually down on the new radio :p ah well I'll use it anyways
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Sounds like an att "feature".

Just flashed the radio. I'll test it out on lte this weekend.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedailyl3af:
Would someone mind making a ril for 3.18 then if it wouldn't be too hard? I think my phone would like it lol. My speeds have decreased more than half since I rooted and I've tried 2.20 stock radio, 2.41 2.40 and now 3.18 but still only get half speed or less. When I was completely stock I was getting 24d and 18up but once rooted and flashed viper my speeds are now 10max 8up.

Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] liamstears:
I'll make one if you hold on a min, do a full backup now though just in case ;)

EDIT: Here it is: http://d-h.st/lcK 3.18 with RIL, use at your own risk! Backup first!

EDIT2: Ignore that the installer says its flashing the 2.41 radio as it is actually flashing the 3.18 radio and ril
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RollTribe:
How would they market that?

"Our new update features decreased to make sure you REALLY want to download that file. We've been doing this in the past with our expensive as **** data plans, but we feel this is a real improvement to an already great phone."

Lol

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What's the advantage of using the RIL? Increased data speeds?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] liamstears:
It may help the radio function better but only way to really know if its gonna help is to test it
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] hero913:
lol

same here...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Lol, I wouldn't put it past them to limit download speeds this way just to save their network.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] hero913:
gonna try this out.

Thanks
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Thanks liamstears! I'll fix the updater script to read the correct version and add to the op when I get a minute.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedailyl3af:
Ty very much bro I'll test it out and let you know :)

Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RollTribe:
Well, to see if it's actually better I'm gonna run the radio without the RIL for a bit and then with it. I'll report back... Unless other people do first.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedailyl3af:
Before

After

I'll let the radio settle in tho cause I flashed it earlier today but I should be getting my LTE speeds instead of my HTC inspire speeds :/

I'm not quite sure if my ip should be failing too.

Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita

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Do you think att is throttling my internet? I usually go over. Even before I flashed the ril my signals would jump from 4 to 2 in seconds and I'm in the same exact spot on my couch lol

Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bimmernut318:
If you were being throttled your speeds would be way slower, like barely able to do anything.

Oh and try running the speed tests in the same place using the same server for your comparisons.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedailyl3af:
I tried the same place twice and have the test for it but I decided to show two so you guys could see two different servers were showing the same thing

Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WeWearFedoras:
So just to be sure...if my phone is s-off all I have to do is flash the radio in recovery, right? I just don't get what the RIL files are or what I'm supposed to do with them. I'm going to try out the ATT 3.18 radio...currently I'm on ATT 2.20.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ronnie498:
That is correct flash via recovery
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] icanhazxda:
Flashing the RIL I'm getting Build Number 3.17 661.2 CL135645 yet Baseband Version 0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34L... This as designed?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WeWearFedoras:
I got the same build number and baseband you did after I flashed the 3.18 radio so I'm guessing it's alright.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WeWearFedoras:
Here are my speed results before and after I flashed 3.18...it's definitely faster for me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JEANRIVERA:
Did you flashed the ril also?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] GroovyGeek:
I don't think the ril has been posted. I flashed 3.18and don't see anything on note, was running 2.20 before that.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
RIL has been posted!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] For1n:
Odp: [Radio][RIL]HOXL Radios/RILs including CM10.x based ROMs (Flashable zips)

How can I upgrade just the RIL?

I have version 1.0

Send from my One XL CM10.1
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JEANRIVERA:
Here is the RIL for 3.18 only for those with "SENSE ROMS" interested in flashing the RIL only

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1788841&stc=1&d=1362737375
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] For1n:
Odp: [Radio][RIL]HOXL Radios/RILs including CM10.x based ROMs (Flashable zips)

Thank you,

What about android based ROM users?

Send from my One XL CM10.1
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
Umm I think you are confused. All roms for this phone are android based.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ILoveYouAll:
He probably meant stock Android/Senseless/AOSP based ROMS, I guess?

Sent from my Evita.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] angramenyu:
Does the at&t radio have the IRL include?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
in real life the ril really does not matter, but was shared 3 posts before your question and also a couple pages before that.

Are you guys trying to be stupid?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] angramenyu:
I'm new at flashing rils, I'm already s-off. Do I just flash both radio and ril as I would with a normal Rom?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
Yes flash like a Rom.

Flashing a ril is more likely to cause issues than improve things, but even more likely is that it will do nothing at all.

You need to consider what Rom you are running before flashing things.

Different roms load the radio from different places. Eg sense versus cm.

You need the radio to be writen to the right place. Kind people prepackage zips to do this for you but you need to pick the correct prepackaged zip.

Cm and such compile their own ril and replacing them with Htc ril is likely to cause issues.

More would likely be improved by updating touchscreen, WiFi, opendsp, bootloader and such firmwares than replacing ril drivers.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] scabbard1:
3.18 made my wifi suck
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cr1960:
nvm.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NerdFurgison:
I'm having great results with the new att radio my data speeds are much improved and battery life has been great. It's a winner for me. Fwiw I live in central pennsylvania
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarEduar:
if i am using 4.2.2 CM wich radio i must flash? can i flash new at&t radio?, iam on latin america.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RollTribe:
It seems like the new 3.18 radio has been hit and with some people like me it's brought marginal decrease (about 300 kilobytes less than before/sec) and some people are up a little bit.

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Yup, the CM10.1 radios are at the bottom of the page.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarEduar:
3.18 flashed :), like 400 kb more :) latin america operator user.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
You win the internet today sir.

Everyone else, I'll be adding the radio + ril to the op shortly.

And people, please do not flash things on to your phone if you have no idea what they are or what they do. Read, investigate, learn. Then flash.

[EDIT] UPDATED OP [/EDIT]
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] E.Cadro:
Bahahahahahaha

XDA Moderator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Red5:
Guy can figure out how to achieve s-off on his HOX

Cant figure out how to flash a radio

I need to make this into a meme somehow...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] HTC_Phone:
I almost flamed you for having S-Off and can't flash radios... But then I realized it was sarcasm. Haha ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] E.Cadro:
Like this?

XDA Moderator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] subarudroid:
View attachment 1789451
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ronnie498:
Cool a radio meme thread :eek:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
I think everybody just has a little case of TGIF.... :D

Party is pooped, let's get back on track.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] marsyeti:
It's amazing the latest ATT radio! 2 hours gone and still 100%!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WeWearFedoras:
I did not flash the RIL also, just the 3.18 radio.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] danielfuchs:
Are you using LTE? Which ROM are you on? Did you flash RIL too?

Sorry for the barrage of questions, just looking to replicate awesome battery life!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chodaboy19:
I flashed 3.18 from 3.17(cleanrom 6.0 beta 1). I don't see any real difference on LTE. Working without issues so far. :good:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wdkingery:
I flashed 3.18 with ril and picked you another signal bar in general around the house.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RollTribe:
Best battery life I've ever seen off WiFi with the 3.18 radio. On ViperXL with ElementalX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nikjft:
Update: Flashed new wifi partitions from Venom Hub, speeds are back up to normal.

Flashed 3.18 on ViperXL with stock ROM. Got about a 40% decrease in LTE speeds. Reverted back to 2.20 and got my old speed back. Didn't notice an obvious difference in battery life or signal strength.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mushat3k:
I did a before (3.17) and after (3.18), a definite improvement!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
On 3.18 + RIL I'm getting 18mbps down on lte. (got 45 2 months ago on this tower). If the battery life is better I'm not complaining.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DaNnY549:
I tried to flash the last Radio ATT but the phone say 0.19as.32.09 and not the new :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Do you have s-off?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Desertman123:
I flashed the 3.18 radio with TWRP just like I had flashed the 3.17 radio, but I don't get any service. Using *#*#4636#*#* to get to the menu to enable LTE/GSM doesn't work. It says 'Unknown", and whenever I try to put it to something else, it immediately goes back to unknown. It also shows no APNs (until I reflash CM/3.17). Am I doing anything wrong? Reflashing CM and 3.17 lets me use my phone normally.

Running CM 10.1-20130308 nightly.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DaNnY549:
Yes now I have it thanks
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarEduar:
What is RIL?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RollTribe:
I'm sure someone will be able to explain this better, but it's basically files on your device in the /system partition that help the radio function better.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarEduar:
Thx a lot, newbie here.

So i can flash 3.18 Ril included on cm 10.1.

First time only flashed 3.18 without ril.

Enviado desde mi One X usando Tapatalk 2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ronnie498:
That's pretty much it

A Radio Interface Layer (RIL) is a layer in an operating system which provides an interface to the hardware's radio and mobile phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NerdFurgison:
People are too hung up on ril's imo. I never flash them or worry about them because when I did I seen zero difference. I say to Hell with this ril talk :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
Radio = firmware

RIL(radio interface layer) = driver

Android = operating system

All 3 are "programs" that are running at different "levels", I have listed them from top to bottom in the order typically considered for how they interact. It is important to understand that a program is just code and how they interact is a philosophy programmers created and are now use to and not because it has to be set out that way.

In the case of the RIL, the API rarely/never changes so it is rarely/never updated.

The actual changes HTC make happen in the "Radio" program.

This is opposite to how say Windows/Nvidia tackle things. The firmware rarely/never changes and they make their changes in the "driver".

In Nvidia's case they do this because there is no standard way in x86BIOS/Windows for GPU firmware to be loaded from something as simple as the installed HDD, the firmware is actually written to chips on the card itself. It is just simpler to make all the code that gets changed inside the "driver" which is easily updated.

For our phones "radio" its trivial for the changes in code to happen at the "driver" level or the "firmware" level, HTC/Google decided they would stick changes in the "firmware". They did this because they created a separate partition for the radio so that they can protect it separately to the OS. Android typically means the phones OS should be open for tweaking, so it must be assumed the driver could easily be replaced.

Countries and Carriers have licensed spectrum to protect and transmitters must be licensed to use it, running custom radio code would break laws in many countries. This leads to the radio firmware being protected much more heavily than the OS itself.

It is because HTC is lazy and because we have awesome devs that we can replace the radio firmware at all. As far as HTC, Country communication regulators and carriers are concerned the user should NEVER be altering the radio software.

Radio:

radio(fancy code stuff) <-> ril(boring translator) <-> Android OS

Nvidia:

firmware(advanced fixed code that allows for flexible access) <-> driver(fancy code stuff and translator) <-> Windows

Note:

Radio is about wireless communications

Nvidia is about graphics processings. They are not similar technologies just some tech you may be familiar with.

PS. API = application programming interface.. and lets just say if you do not understand what that is.. I cant be arsed trying to explain that, go Google it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarEduar:
Thx all is clear now.

as read is better flash using RIL.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
Firmware and drivers also gets more vague when a hardware component like a GPU becomes a "computer" in its own right that talks to the "main" computer..

Think of it as:

Is graphics card a tool such as a drill in a tradesman's hand or are we talking about a second person that has a drill helping.

Is the GPU a tool the CPU is using, or is it actually a CPU in it's own right itself.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] scabbard1:
I don't believe you should flash a ril with cyanogen. Radio is a little different concerning location and proper functioning
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Adding to the OP. Brilliant explanation.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Sweet baby jesus, do not do that.

ONLY the cm10 flashable zips can be flashed on cm10.x ROMs.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
You're not trying to flash the Radio+RIL right? that would totally eff cm up....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
WB(wideband) audio is one thing where RIL comes in to play.

Sense RIL understands the Android request for wideband audio, CM RIL does not.

This is one of the clear times the RIL is important, the translator does not understand the request, although currently the CM guys do not have a solution to this.

The radio itself supports wideband fine.

This leads to

Sense RIL and ROM has wideband support

CM RIL and ROM does not have wideband support.

Other devices with CM do have RIL's that support wideband, I believe key players such as h8rift are in a region that does not support wideband which is causing this issue to be low priority.

If you want wideband audio you could try to remind h8rift that CM currently does not support it for our devices while other CM devices can do it fine ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarEduar:
Roger that :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MassStash:
Anyone with viperxl have WiFi issue with 3.18withRIL? Wondering if it's the WiFi partion fix flashed a while ago when turge put it out... Haven't stopped over yet, started here. Rebooted, cache wipes and perm fix no good

Edit: after 30-45min dickin around as hitting end it connected.... Perhaps the router being stupid. We'll see

~OneXL on ViperXL 3.2.x; ElementalX at 1.7max, 192min, intellidemand, fiops
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedailyl3af:
You might of flashed the cm radio which wouldn't work on a sense base Rom.

Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WeWearFedoras:
There's an updated WiFi partition add-on for 3.18...check it out its already in Venom Hub! Updated it today and it seems to work great.

Venomized s-off HOX w/ elemental
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] edditnyc:
N00bs be trippin on the RIL, son. lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cbatiste1993:
I'm experiencing a battery drain from the 3.18 radio, on 2.20 i had virtually none. I'll let it run a few more days to see if it balances out, right now looks like i might go back to 2.20.

Sent from my HTC One XL running ViperXL 3.2.6 & ElementalX 5.2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarEduar:
Same here, in two hours like 30% do nothing :(

Enviado desde mi One X usando Tapatalk 2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Viper4713:
I need to get something straight here, I am running ViperXL 3.2.6, I have the new 3.18 Radio, do I need to flash the RIL? I read somewhere on this post about a month ago that RIL's don't work on JB? even if your on Sense? Please clarify if I am talking bullspit please lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vanillalite:
Flashed the 3.18 radio here on the latest CM10.1 nightly. No signal problems here.

I can't comment on the LTE speed yet as I've just been at my GF's place as well as mine which I run off of WiFi at both spots.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jfellon:
I'm running 3.18 radio n ril with WiFi update n I am having about 1 to 2% drain n hour I had worse drain running 2.20 att radio running any jellybean Rom out there until I flashed the 3.18 radio it fixed my battery drain n yes I'm running viper jb also latest version . Maybe u had a bad flash at some point try reflashing everything
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Viper4713:
So you are confirming that RIL's work with JB Sense Roms? I read somewhere they do not work with Sense JB, it started when I was reading a user saying they were in a boot loop, and the next user said RIL's don't work with Sense JB :/
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jfellon:
3.18 ril is for jb only it's a jb radio n jb ril it's pretty simple ice 2.20 att has an ice ril file for ice hence if you flash and ice ril onto a jb base it will bootloop because of the incompatible version. So vice versa you can't flash a jb ril on ice because it will bootloop I have been flashing radios n rils since htc inspire/desire hd and vivid also. Common sense and lots of reading and googling helps a lot also

Also to ad u can run without the ril but u will notice wakelocks start to happen I have tested n confirmed this with my wife's phone n mine. It's due to a mismatch of information within android and the firmware. Also battery drain is possible without the correct ril for the radio firmware hence as I stated before I couldnt run jb sense because 2.20 radio would cause a significant battery drain at idle of 3% to 6% an hour with the incorrect ril someone can chime in to confirm what I am stating also this is purely what I have learned from my own trail n error
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Viper4713:
Thanks for the info, learned, I have been flashing radio and ril's sense Inspire 4G as well, but I never ran into any bootloop issue, but I am realizing that most of the radios were mostly GB based, never flashed a RIL on ICS DHD