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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Gutterball:
@ Red5 I'm following you man! lol Whats the chance of getting task over here to the darkside?! lol Bring RASK5 to this phone!:highfive:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Not much of a chance. He hates HTC for some reason and dosent like the look of the HOX so he wont be getting one. :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] GibMcFragger:
That guy is a knob. It is a tad buggy though. I just flashed a radio and it froze on "flashing radio". I force rebooted after about 10 mins and the radio had flashed fine. Its just the installer display that froze, the flash went fine in the background. :)

Beamed from my KingCobra1X powered HOXL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
Yea that's what I meant, just the ui will act up since its so huge, but radio will flash fine. The updater script is generic not particularly "made" for aroma so it will run fine in background after selections etc are made.

Imagine Roms that use aroma phew some over 500mb. Not perfect but it works and looks cool! Agree?

scribed on my clean one x via tapatalk 2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] GibMcFragger:
Oh yea. I can live with that as long as the radio flashes fine. Its all good. It still works and it makes it easy to swap to any radio. :)

Beamed from my KingCobra1X powered HOXL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] GibMcFragger:
I tried the 1.88 Asia radio on my Rogers HOXL here in Vancouver, and my LTE signal and speeds took a dump. I got faster speeds on the default Rogers 1.73 radio that I was using, but wifi sucked.

I have since flashed the Rogers 1.73 radio back using the one from this thread, and all my wifi issues seem to have disappeared. I have a much stronger signal now. Weird.

Beamed from my KingCobra1X powered HOXL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
If you flashed the ril... That's why
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mcmb03:
thanks for aroma aio
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
just a follow up if anyone cares/ is interested. getting a better signal (also more stable) and much better speeds while at work, battery life is basically the same. 1.89 > 1.85 for me. running cleanrom 4.0 Se w/ 1.85 base.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daddioj:
anyones wifi dropping and connecting quick with the new radio? 1.89
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Trying the new radio out right now. Here's to hoping for good results.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] GibMcFragger:
I didn't actually.

Beamed from my KingCobra1X powered HOXL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PurpleFries:
In Toronto on LTE. The new telstra radio gives me significantly better speeds than the telus one I was using. With RIL on both.

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
@red what widget showing dBm are you using ?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
1.89 radio is giving me the same speeds as the 1.88 radio (1.88 is the radio that has best worked for me so far), yet 1.89 is giving me better signal (dBm... and to test this I use this widget and this widget) for both cellular and wifi... wifi also connects a lot faster and does not drop for me. Call clarity is awesome... but heres the best part for me... battery drain while on a call is AWESOME.

So for me, the 1.89 radio+ril is a keeper for me in California.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Must be those weird towers up north....San Diego does not like the 1.89 radio AT ALL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daddioj:
hows battery for some? 1.89 seems to eat battery alil more then others for me. but good signal
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Battery life seems to have improved slightly for me with 1.89 + ril. Signal definitely improved here in eastern Wisconsin. I was using 2.09 before. I'm keeping this new one.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pumpiron579:
Can this get stickied since it is has all our radios we can flash.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] blacklistedcard:
I have the same findings. 1.88 is the best radio version for my Rogers device. No dropped connections.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
^This.

been hollering that for days. Been on 1.88ruu since the day it was leaked and havent had any dropped calls or missing mobile data.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
With flashable radios it makes it so much easier. I'm glad I wasn't hallucinating tried 4 radios in about 30 min thought it may have been in my head, lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jtwlbz:
really? 1.88 SoC is the best for AT&T? when i flashed 1.88 RUU and my LTE was horrible...so i had to go back to 1.85
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
I live in the upper peninsula of Michigan only city to have faux G, or any G at all, the rest of at&t signal is edge here, can't say about LTE, but could it have just been a busy day when you tested it?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] leletyM3:
I ll try 1.85
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ragesoss:
Are these carrier-specific? Since I'm on AT&T, does that mean I should only flash one of the AT&T radios (and not the 1.88 Asia radio)?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
I'm on at&t and flashed 1.88 you can always flash back if you don't like it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Im on 1.85 and it seems better than 1.73 but i feel that it drains faster. Gonna try 1.88 now and see how that goes...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Hydromea:
Do att users also flash the Asia radio?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
Try them all out figure out which works best for speed, and connectivity. You can flash any of them.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
I'm going to update the filenames with the baseband versions to alleviate this kind of confusion when I get home from work. In an effort to save time, I just named (most of) them by just the RUU Version they were released under.

Adding a quick note in the OP for now...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] moehagene:
I flashed the 1.88 radio on my att and it seems good so far but I am throttled so. Ant speak for the speed part of it. But GPS and cell reception are good to go
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Koizuma:
Using the 1.88 asian, radio and signal is decent where I am my signal hasn't dropped yet like it has been. Does the 1.88 get LTE? Im anything it doesn't

Swyped from my HTC One X using XDA Premium.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ragesoss:
I flashed 1.88 on AT&T as well. I don't notice any difference from stock 1.73. It works fine for hspa+. One speed test showed slightly less speed than a previous test, but close enough that it's probably just random variation.

sent from my HTC One XL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
I'd have to say rogers stock gives me the best battery life and signal..(northern Alberta)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
I'm trying rogers. Upper peninsula Michigan. Maybe its because. So close to Canada lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jtwlbz:
i tried 1.88 and 1.85.

1.85 LTE speed is normal here. 1.88 is half slower.

so i'm sticking with 1.85.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] benbailey84:
Below is my speedtest.net results, 1.73 radio... Asia radio got me about 1.5 MBps download. 1.85 got me 0.5 MBps download. All 3 got about 1 MBps upload....

Sent from my rooted HTC ONE X running Clean Rom V.2.5
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
It seems to vary by region. My fastest radio is the rogers one.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
It's in the Sticky Rollup thread. We aren't stickying individual threads as there'd be far too many.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pumpiron579:
Yea, but it does not always get updated
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
If taylor.fowler introduces a new radio I will update the AROMA installer and post it here not there anyway. The OP of that thread would then just provide links here. New users would get the link ( old or new) from there but see fresh info here. ( As long as the read lol)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Rockliveson123:
Great speeds on the telstra 1.89!!!! This is HSPA+

Santa Barbara CA. Fastest speeds yet
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
New Asia WWW 2.23 Radio = testing now :) zips posted shortly

Edit: Links up!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
Yay yay yay!

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
Uh, I think it's safe to say the radio is bananas

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
When I tried to flash the new 2.23 radio I noticed it only took an instant in twrp. I immediately flashed 1.89 to be safe and rebooted. I then took a look in the updater scripts.

2.23:

package_extract_file("system.img", "/tmp/system.img");

run_program("/sbin/busybox", "dd", "if=/tmp/system.img", "of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p33");

delete("/tmp/system.img");

1.89:

package_extract_file("radio.img", "/tmp/radio.img");

run_program("/sbin/busybox", "dd", "if=/tmp/radio.img", "of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17");

delete("/tmp/radio.img");

Being that there's no system.img in the 2.23 zip with RIL, I can only assume it didn't do anything at all. I believe mmcblk0p33 is actually the system partition. I assume this was a mistake?

Edit: I just downloaded the non-RIL 2.23 radio and it has the same script as the RIL version, so it's not actually updating your radios.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
GOOD CATCH! Crap. Taking those down. Used a sile I was working with earlier.. Sorry guys!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
wow I never get results that good on the old radio.. Haha deeerp

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dudeluv:
So is it good to flash or not
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
would wait until taylor updates script...:p
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dudeluv:
Just saw that was going to flash the ril one...yikes
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
All the planets must have aligned for your one speedtest on 1.89 radio. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dudeluv:
You flash the one with the ril or without?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Deeerp indeed. You were using the old radio image with the new RIL files....

I'm in the middle of (more thoroughly) testing the zips that are actually flashing the radio img....

First reboot I'm not getting any signal (no good), tracing my steps back as I seem to have caught a stupid bug today.

New Links should be up shortly.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
Doesn't matter, both had the wrong updater script so his radio didn't change.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
So does that mean that both 1.89 and this latest Asian radio are broken?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] fluxgfx:
Fyi the radio and ril link for HTC Asia 2.23 doesn't work.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
No. Just the latest. IM gonna try redownloading the files I think I might have a bad img file. Baseband version comes up unknown.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
Haha vapor pens.. nuff said

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
OK. still hashing out some BS with the RIL files. HOWEVER the radio (without RIL) is available now. With RIL should be up in a minute :)

Had to play around with the HTC updater script so it Patches the 1.88 files. Testing now.

Edit: RIL Files are still being a b!tch....Flashing with them always results in "Unknown Baseband" being reported. I'm in touch with a few other developers to see if I can get some help. Until then, just the radio will have to do.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
Just a theory but maybe something ril related changed between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4

Just brainstorming here..

Oh.... I just peeked in your zips... Any reason we're not matching the libreference-ril.so? Found before it had a lot to do with switching on and off of the data connection. This could be a big find.... :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
In most other phones when an android version is changed the radio/Ril are not compatible with old ones, at least on the thrill that's how it is.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JamesR913:
I'm having an issue downloading the aroma installer. It says starting download but then nothing happens. Is this just me or anyone else seeing this.

Sent from my Nocturnal HOX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gmac1990:
Make sure your in desktop mode if your on your phones browser.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
OOOO. let me play around a little with that. Definitely overlooked that guy. There's another ril related file from /system/bin that I've been screwing around with trying to get the new (2.23) stuff to work.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
Sounds good man I think it'll make a difference :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
Curious, where is libreference-ril.so located? I didn't see it in /system/lib.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Was just gonna post that...Went looking and no dice :P
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
I extracted the full rom from a couple different ones, then ran a search through the directories. No luck. Guess our phones don't use that file.

I did notice from some of the other HTC phones that have ril packages available on XDA also include rild from system/bin/. Is this the bin file you've been tinkering with?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Yessir.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
I have it... /system/lib

I'm on AOKP if that makes a difference
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dtp7:
That's interesting... my guess is AOKP probably doesn't need it for this phone if HTC isn't using it, right? Maybe let Rohan know about this, he may want to play around with it a bit...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
Well...there's no file to replace it with, at least not in any of the existing sense roms. I checked 1.85, 1.88, 1.89, and 2.23, and none have libreference-ril.so in /system/lib. For aosp roms I guess you're stuck with the one included from whichever rom you flash.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
It doesn't exist in CM9...

Could be whats causing all the weird data drops in AOKP.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedevilslettucemd:
I have found and corrected the update.zip for the 2.23 radio+ril. Tested it on my own device first (works!) and attached here :)

Mirror: EVITA_HTC_ASIA_WWE 2.23_Radio_0.19as.32.09.09_L_10.104b.32.25 with RIL.zip - 14.9 MB
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Sweet! What'dya do?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedevilslettucemd:
I simply fixed the updater-script in the zip to reflect the proper filename and partition. Credit still goes to the original creator.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Could you elaborate? I'm the original creator.

Edit: SO it looks like you changed:

to

Which, forgive me if I'm wrong, isn't copying anything to anywhere...or is it?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
Wow...glumbo is one of the most annoying download sites...

Anyways, your "fixed" script doesn't entirely work. The script never actually copies the RIL files to the proper location (but it does copy the radio.img to the correct partition). You should remove that link so people don't accidentally flash it.

Perhaps you were responding to my earlier post a few pages back when I found that the scripts were wrong? Taylor has since fixed them, and the correct links are on the first page.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
+1 on the glumbo...

Yeah I'm still not entirely sure what the heck is the issue. I've tried a bunch of different crap without much success. Right now i think it's a completely new RIL version. So far the only meaningful difference I've found is an extra line in the rcdata.img file:

IMEISVN=1

We don't know where rcdata is mounted (if it's mounted, these rcdata.img files are literally just text), SO I'm poking around to see where the heck I need to make more changes. Anyone with more knowledge than I is more than welcome to chime in. In the meantime, I'm scouring other Forums to see if I'm missing something.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
vin255764's advice is to only flash RILs over whatever rom you're using and stick with the radio your last RUU put on the device. For most of us on AT&T that would be 1.85, which honestly works pretty well for me. I won't have time to try just moving the 1.85 RIL files over to CR4.5b until later this evening, but we'll see if it allows data connectivity without any of the issues popping up in that thread.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
OK soooooo

So here's what I've got going so far with the RIL stuff:

I'm copying over the following files:

/system/bin/rild

/system/lib/libril.so

/system/lib/libril-qc-qmi-1.so

/system/lib/libril-qcril-hook-oem.so

/system/lib/libc.so (Got this from a suggestion in another thread Is it helping? i dunno)

Here's what I get from adb logcat -b radio:

Any thoughts on why rild is all effed? Is there something in build.prop that needs to get changed maybe?

Just throwing out ideas :/
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Thats more of a longcat than a logcat haha.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] venelar:
Might try to pm/tweet/batsignal Da_G. He was all up in this radio business with both winmo/android.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Cool, will do.

Bah-dum-CHA
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Announcement

Updated the OP, but the word from both h8rift and rohan32 is:

DON'T FLASH RADIOS + RIL TO CM10 or JB AOKP Builds.

Just the Radios are cool, but they had to build RIL from source, so don't use the pre-built ones from HTC (which I use for the + RIL zips).

Thanks!

Also, still working on: 1) New RIL stuff from 2.23 2) Some of the older radios + RIL (I know SkizzMcnizz is still patiently waiting :P). Might get those posted up today
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] niceppl:
hey taylor, here Rogers

EVITA_HTC_ROGERS 1.94_Radio_0.18as.32.09.28_L_10.103.32.24L.zip

save you some time, better than the Rogers 1.73 one...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/091u5tjre...Radio_0.18as.32.09.28_L_10.103.32.24L.zip.zip
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
You live up to your name :) you really are nice :)

Edit: 6dbm higher signal here on rogers! Happppyyyyy :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Awesome! Thanks dude. Adding to the OP now.

Just so everyone knows, figuring out the new RIL version thing is a giant pain in the balls. I've found myself having to go through the text of each of the lib files to find references to radio. It will happen though, just a matter of time. It should also make newer RIL versions A LOT easier to pump out. Thanks for the patience!

Edit: Changed the script and everything! Thanks again niceppl!

Edit2: Will be updating the AROMA Installer after I figure out the RIL Issue. I have an idea to decrease the file size, which should improve stability of the installer.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Thats a pretty big increase. Is it consistently staying 6dbm higher (actually isnt less dBm better?)?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
less dbm is better, unsure about the ACU strength
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
Closer to zero is better. By higher i meant closer to zero as its increases in gain..

And yes I'm seeing full bars where I used to be 2 bars. And where I was lucky to have 1 bar in my lab, I now have 2-3 bars. Northern Alberta...

Its technically more dBm...less dBm is a lower number and less signal

0dbm > -80dbm
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
So... Just to make sure I understand the OP correctly, if we are using CleanROM 4.5 or later we cannot flash the radios with RIL included? (cause I tried that and got 0 bars so I had to revert to my backup). Had to use the version without RIL.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
I used the asia radio with ril, im on 4.5
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Which one? 1.88? Did you flash the radio before or after you installed CleanROM 4.5?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Correct. Until I've got everything sorted with the RIL files. Which should be soon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Probably after, those files will not play nice all mixed in with mismatched libs.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
I flashed radio before rom

And the one i flashed was the newer one.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Thanks Tay-tay. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Sent from my HTC One X using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ted77usa:
1.88

Hi Z,

look like u still have 1.88 Htc Asia Radio start with 0.17xxx and if the newest one is HTC ASIA 2.23 start with .019xxx but ur software base build is 2.23 CR4.5 ....that's what i think....:p:cool::good: alot of people got confused with baseband and build number....correct me if i'm wrong..:D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
I don't think he's confused. He probably just flashed the ROM after the radio+ril. I know for a fact that the ril zips are missing some libs and such that don't mix well with their mismatched counter parts in 2.23 based roms. Once I figure this out (sososo close btw) we should be good to flash older radios with the correct ril.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Either way......check out my signal! I used to get 2 bars in my house b4! Also.....im not having one problem. :D

Sent from my HTC One X using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Can anyone smarter than I extrapolate any useful information regarding the QMUX database errors from the logcats a few posts back from this ?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
New radio out today with the AT&T OTA.

Reported baseband is 0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25L
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Has someone posted anything up from it yet? (ZIP, RUU, or otherwise?)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chrisoverson:
nice work :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
Someone accepted the OTA, and posted their baseband number. That's as far as we've gotten AFAIK.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seanwuk:
don't know why, tried a lot radios. LTE speeds are all roughly the same, ONLY 10 Mbps at most. I do see 4G on the top in a CM9 rom. and i selected LTE only in phone info. any ideas? I tested in downtown vancouver, which is covered by LTE.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
LTE speeds vary by location. To be perfectly honest, you don't need 10 mbps on your phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
Heh.. then there is no need for 20.. or 30.. lol why bother having LTE at all.

Hehe to the fellow vancouverite it totally depends on time of day and provider.

Rogers in Richmond around 8pm I'll get 56mbit down. :cool:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Dunno. Not sure what all the fuss is about. It's not like you get more bandwidth or can even saturate 10 mbps streaming.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
Uploading tons of photos to dropbox in a few seconds, downloading torrents/ROMs without affecting browsing. Just to name a few..

Ever downloaded a podcast, ROM annnd lurked xda on HSPA at the same time before? I have.. it sucks.