yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC One X] nogotaclue:
And UK >>>>>http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/Unlocking/htc_s-off_service.htm
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
Ah nice, that one is new to me :)

sent from my .......
[HTC One X] xanda143:
ok well i baught it anyway. its the evita version so confirm the most i can do is htc dev unlock its the evita version....
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
Evita can be easily s-offed, but then you are also in the wrong forum. You need to be in the HTC one XL section (at&t)

sent from my .......
[HTC One X] xanda143:
lol i figured that out after i softbricked. thats y i posted so my mistakes could b corrected. but every1 was too buisy to notice detail thanks dude
[HTC One X] cmanju88:
htc one x

Did anyone found the way to s-off htc one x international. Help i wanna go back to 4.1 without s-off we can't.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
You csn also go back without s-off and NO WAY to do that without such services so don't ask for s-off -.-

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[HTC One X] cmanju88:
htc one x

Bro tell me how to do that even without super cid or send me a link on procedure thanks a lot in advance
[HTC One X] cmanju88:
htc one x

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>someone has to talk some sense to that chinese guy who won't upload the s-off tool for htc one x international. bro inform me when there is</p>— manjunath (@manju48) <a href="https://twitter.com/manju48/statuses/393280800151465984">October 24, 2013</a></blockquote>

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[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
which hboot are you on? you just need if you have unlocked bootloader use a nandroid backup from 3.20/3.14 or so which matches your cid RUU for 3.14 if you have cid which matches x.xx.401.x or best is just flash a rom whioch is based on sense 4+ android 4.1.1 ..and no i won't be send you a link as you can also search by yourself...it's really easy to find..please don't be lazy :)
[HTC One X] cmanju88:
htc one x

HBOOT 1.36

RADIO - 5.1204.162.29

S-ON RL

CPLD - NONE

WHY IS IT SHOWING CID NONE MINE IS HTC_038. With S-off i can't downgrade hboot but i can upgrade. so i cant flash hboot coz it'll bric my phone. i think the only possibility now is nandroid back up but i tried to find it bro i've been up all night i couldn't find it. My software number is 4.18.401.2 there is no RUU of this version. Do you think if i find a odexed 4.1 version zip file for htc one x international then can i flash 4.1 version htc stock?

Can you find me 4.1 version odexed firmware htc one x international or the nandroid backup file with boot.img and stock recovery.img.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
CPLD is not CID...and do you even read one time any guides or so? you are on hboot 1.36..thats for android 4.1.1...and also for 4.2.2...dude just look in android development ...you can find there so many things .. just search/read/look better...even use google...there is a nandroid backup collection and there you can find the one for your CID...and please don't ask me for link please search/look yourself...finding those threads is done in a few min...less then 5 minutes
[HTC One X] cmanju88:
htc one x

bro i found the nandroid backup i just want to confirm some things for my cid htc_038 and hboot-1.36 this is the right backup files right 3.14.720.24, can you guide on how to do the nandroid backup please
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
There is one for cwm and one for twrp...say at first which you downloaded...or if there is one just also say for which recovery it is...but there are so many guides...why just don't read and learn together?

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[HTC One X] cmanju88:
its nandroid backup if you use philz recovery it can handle both twrp and CMW backups

i'm doing the flashing thing now wish me luck
[HTC One X] cmanju88:
it all worked thank you for guiding me through,
[HTC One X] playguy1:
S off

its a good thing :D
[HTC One X] manne48:
Hehe¶

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[HTC One X] bluedevil678:
Still wont S-Off

I seem to still be struggling to get S-Off on this device, gosh some solid advise would be appreciated!

(bootloader) version: 0.5a

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.39.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 5.1204.162A.29

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 3.20.401.1

(bootloader) serialno: MB302W103367

(bootloader) imei: 353426057774366

(bootloader) product: endeavoru

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-T30S

(bootloader) modelid: PJ4610000

(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__016

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 3841mV

(bootloader) devpower: 57

(bootloader) partition-layout: None

(bootloader) security: on

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: None

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 2

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

all: Done!

finished. total time: 0.825s
[HTC One X] Thant:
man no S-OFF for HOX
[HTC One X] bluedevil678:
So there is no hope?
[HTC One X] Le Widget:
Sorry for the bump, just wondering if S-OFF was ever achieved for the HTC One X ?
[HTC One X] SUPERUSER:
By making use of a vulnerability. No.

Its possible if you buy a javacard. Its very expensive to buy just one code. You usually buy them in bulk for a corporation.

Because no publicity was made for the One x. There is not much use for S-off anyways plus this device is very old at this date.
[HTC One X] haydude:
I just bought a new HTC One X+ from an Hong Kong based eBay seller and it came with S-OFF and CID-11111111
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
It has some different parts, which can be s-offed, the normal one x is without having proper expensive parts not s-offable
[HTC One X] haydude:
This isn't clear. Please can you elaborate?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ozzmanj1:
I take no credit in this, this is simply from the website that TLRtheory has up for game for our phone. If you wish to thank anyone its him. I am simply passing in it here

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.letang.game111.en

Does not show up in the games launcher but it uses the game pads, in fact all the games made by this dev use the gamepads. They even have a fun tank game. Anyway I check TLRtheory's game site dailey. Everyone who loves to find new supported games please visit his site, he puts a lot of work into it.

http://xperiaplaygamer.net/
[Defy Themes and Apps] mjchung:
I love the look of the dashboard for the Defy Mini. Is there any way to get it onto the original Defy running CM7?

Thanks in advance.
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
In real phone scenario what we could benefit more? Will a quad-core be faster the 2gb of ram? Or will a 2gb will perform better against quad-core?

Pocketnow did a video between the gs2 and gs3 and both were opening apps really quick, they were really close on browsing, gaming. Do you think the 2gb will make a difference on the phone compare to the international? What are your thoughts?
[Epic 4G General] Gavisann:
2GB will help with multitasking while the faster processor will help with gaming and to a degree, faster apps.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
If it were an iPhone, then the quad core would be much better because apps will actually make use of the amazing gpu. In android, I doubt there will be an app released in the next year or two that realistically benefits from the quad core's gpu vs the dual core's.

Both the dual and quad core will have all of the software optimizations Samsung has done for web browsing. The 2gb memory is probably overkill at this point, but in theory it means that apps will never close in the background since there will be no need to free up new memory.
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
Here's my thoughts:

1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.

2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.

3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.

4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.

5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.

6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.

Check out this article.

Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum. :p
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
1. Well the whole android cant handle 4 cores i think is false because its derived from Linux and i know those who use 4,6,8 core processor's and use Linux. so if android isn't im sure its all in code is all.

2. More Ram does mean things will run much faster. For Example: playing gta 4 with 4GB of DDR3 Ram @ 1333MHz plays decent but my pc setup that plays gta 4 with 8Gb of DDR2 Ram @ 1333MHz plays faster and loads faster but GPU does factor those speeds too so, in a sense you cant bottleneck them.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Extra RAM. It's going to be a while before the apps/software catches up with having two more cores. Meanwhile even old stuff can benefit from extra memory. Also see it as more future proof as you won't get the lame ass excuses from Samsung about it not having enough RAM to run whatever the latest release of Android is like we got with ICS and the Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
You've misunderstood. Android can use 4 cores, of course. What it can't do is use them effectively in a way that creates any sort of advantage. But just as a mention, being derived from Linux source does not make it a full-fledged Linux OS by far.

And on your second point, again, you're comparing to a full PC operating system. Up until now, apps have been designed for phones with far less than 1GB of ram. It really depends on how you use your phone as to how much ram is needed. If you have a video editor running in the background, while playing pandora, and emulating Mario 64 you'll need more than simply browsing the web. But the processor, bus speeds, operating system, etc. all factor into how effectively more ram can be used. For Example: A 32 bit computer can't even use more than 4GB of ram. More ram does not simply mean 'much' more more speed, there are many other limiting factors. You can throw all the ram you want at a netbook, it will never run GTA4.

Off-Topic Edit: I vote 2GB ram over Quad-Core.
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
I guess then the only thing that will "improve", not that the int'l lacks of, is on the multitasking??

The few videos I saw, they were really fast but that's of course without all the apps that a normal user install. Like I have 38 apps install on my phone and most of the time I open between 9 to 13 apps everyday. Most of the time I have to close it...I guess more for the habit of doing it and of courses need it when playing games.

I read the answer and I kinda feel its true, maybe android is not yet ready for such hardware just yet, does it feels the hardware manufacture is going too fast compare to the software?
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
There will be improvement between the dual-core, faster processor, and more ram, rest assured!

Although I still recommend closing apps unnecessarily opened to save battery. :D
[Epic 4G General] theking_13:
2 A15s > 4 A9s.

Also, the A15 use less power. I'd take the 2 GBs of RAM with the newest CPU anyday.
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
+9000
[Epic 4G General] nvertigo:
You don't have any lag on our epic 4g's? What ROM are you running? I've tried every rom out there and am friends with several other rooted epic owners, none of our phones are remotely comparable to the modern phones like s2 and above.

I'd love to see a video of you opening and running netflix, facebook, web browsing on chrome and stock, or whatever if you have time because this blows my mind. i'm doing something horribly wrong.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Too bad we don't have a samsung developed a15

I don't know why but I don't like qualcomm chips

Also whenever I hear snapdragon I automatically think worse than hummingbird
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
I would take the dual core Krait hands down because it is designed from cortex a15. More instruction per clock is better than stacking cores which a phone doesn't even use. I think the 2 gb of ram has more performance advantage.

They also increased the memory bandwidth with new SOC by adding a new dual channel memory controller which the exynos had all along... They fixed alot of the shortcoming of snapdragon processor with the this gen product
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
That's because Hummingbirds rape Snapdragons. See the following:

​

;)
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Either way if you want LTE at the moment you are stuck with dual core. So the 2GB of RAM is a nice enhancement. The EVO 1x ended up as two models the 1X which is quad core with no LTE and the 1XL which is dual core with LTE.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Where the hell did the epic4g or the iPhone 4 come into the question? My point was that iPhones actually make use of their gpu's better than android phones do, so the difference between the quad core and the dual core gs3 should be minimal in that regard, at least for a while.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
This is wrong.

The Krait is very much designed from the Cortex A9. While it shares similarities with the A15, it is not quite as powerful.

Krait is about 60% of the way between the A9 and A15.
[Epic 4G General] theking_13:
No, where'd you even get that from? Krait is slightly below an A15, Qualcomm derived their design from it. Yes, its not a true A15 core. But its the best right now in production.

Qualcomm has a license to mess around with ARMs designs and make their own CPUs, not just copy and slap an "A4" on them like Apple does.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
Interesting how someone "Likes" wrong information.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture

Designing a processor takes an extremely long amount of time. A15 was just barely released a few months ago. No way Krait was designed from it.

Now, Krait borrows some features from A15, but it's missing some important features as well. Krait does feature an extended instruction pipeline over the A9 (11 vs 9 cycles), but it's nowhere near as long as the A15 (15 cycles). Strictly speaking, lengthening a pipeline is less work than shortening it, hence Krait was not designed from the A15.

It's more likely Krait is an evolution of the Scorpion than anything.

As far as Apple, they have no place in this conversation, but if you must.... while they do have a "processor-only" license with ARM, they do farm out to a company to change some transistor signaling to make it more power efficient (they later bought them).

2 years ago, Apple bought Freescale, the only remaining PowerPC processor design company. (aside: The defense industry was largely concerned, as they rely on PowerPC for their power-efficient but high-speed applications). Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if they have an architecture license now so they can design their own ARM processors, Qualcomm-style. The main advantage would be integrating LTE radios like Qualcomm does.

Coincidentally it takes about 2 years to fully design a processor.
[Epic 4G General] epic4gfaded:
this is kind of a rough question, lots of variables to consider like make up and chip sets and so on. But with out specs I don't think this question can be answers correctly
[Epic 4G General] :
Without real life performance from the 2GB ram Sgs3 most of the debating between the quad-core & 2GB ram doesn't have legitmacy
[Epic 4G General] Naddict:
Why even ask this...I thought speed was based on the color of the phone...heard the white GS3 was way faster than the pebble blue...cuz it looks faster. :D

Edit: I also heard that two tone paint schemes are faster still...

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
....you're half right: ONLY if you lock-in + maintain steady eye-contact w/ the device's artificial retina.

sent from today's Android 4.0.4
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
That is true, the 2gb is something new just like quad-core, so far 2gb its been announce for the LG phone, I'm kinda glad we are one of the first to get something new, since Europe usually gets all the goodies first.

With my epic usually I some lag when I open facebook and browser, that's always the problem I have, if the 2gb could help on that, it'll be great.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
2 gig will not help with that. Only better coded apps and a better processor. RAM does almost nothing. RAM is just for a fast "cache" for apps to use when they need to run in the background and open back up quick. RAM is space, not speed.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
You are confusing lag with Sprint connection speeds which no processor or RAM is going to help. If you are opening facebook or a browser page you can thank Sprint and your 3G connection speed for how long it takes to open.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Yes true but when newer games will be released, and better features like the GS3 where you can actually watch a video and move it around on the screen, at the same time as browsing the internet or whatever. The 2Gb will come in handy try doing that on our phone haha yeah right! Besides what's funny about sprints BS network communications is that I have Clear for Home Internet, and on WiFi I can open netflix in 6 Seconds for anything that's 4 seconds faster than the "claimed" 10 seconds by T-Mobile's 4G.
[Epic 4G General] jimmarako:
I'm greedy, I want both. I'm looking forward to a phone that will have an improved version of something like the Motorola Dock app, or I read that Umbutu is developing a Linux docking app. If the manufacturers would sell an 11" screen/keyboard/battery combo for a reasonable price of ~$200 then I'd love to use my phone as a phone, or dock it and get some reasonable web/office/other utility out of that.

So Im thinking I need both a quad core (active when docked) and 2GB of RAM to pull this off well.

Jim M.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
can we time travel to 01/01/2014 yet? (nationwide sprint lte)
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Are you Retarded No offense I'm just saying, around 200$ is the cost for a phone with a 2 year contract good luck getting an 11" Screen with a KB that would be very bulky and massive, as well as BEING quad Core and 2Gb of Ram. Your looking around 1000$
[Epic 4G General] jimmarako:
Well a bit harsh I think. To clarify I'm thinking along the lines of something like a new Motorola Atrix or similar. Yes the phone would $200 on contract. What I was talking about was an affordable laptop docking station for the phone. I know some of the Atrix docks cost well over $300 originally which puts the cost of a keyboard/screen into the range of fully functional netbooks/chrome books.

When i travel I already have to carry my phone and netbook/laptop. If I could replace the netbook/laptop with a lighter & cheaper dock and use my phone as the primary storage, cpu and GPU then I'm traveling lighter and have all my files, music, photos, etc in one spot (backed up to the desktop at home of course).

No I wouldn't want a phone with an 11" screen and keyboard. That would be crazy.

Jim M.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Get a Motorola that will work on the 10" lapdoc. The Lapdoc is $40 on 1saleaday.com.
[Epic 4G General] jimmarako:
Well $40 certainly gets into the proper price range. I usually don't get the latest cutting edge phone so picking up a used or super sale lapdock is certainly an option.

However I'm on sprint, have 10 months to go, and as far as I know they do not offer anything along these lines yet. I also heard that for the most part the current generation of the Motorola dock app is basically just a glorified browser. This is what I was referring too:

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android

This isn't an app you download, it has to be baked into the ROM by the developer. I heard they might have something out with several major players (Samsung, HTC,....) later this year.

Just a thought. So maybe next year when I 'm ready to upgrade the hexcore 4GB phones will be ready to go.

Jim M.
[Epic 4G General] faceless:
Bingo!
[Epic 4G General] tkoreaper:
Until we get more demanding games/apps I don't see phones using the full potential of what is currently available (1GB RAM/Dual-Core). More precessors doesn't necessarily mean faster unless apps can use all the cores available. It does make multitasking better, but then again so does RAM. More cores would have the advantage over RAM when it comes to multitasking IF all the apps were using processes at the same time... If not then it's pretty pointless, but RAM would always be beneficial in that department.

2Gb of RAM is quite a bit, especially for just system/app use. Unless you're a serious app user and have tons, and I do mean tons, of apps or use about 10 or more apps at the same time then it's kinda pointless. This is where it's just a better idea just to upgrade your SD card. Newer phones will allow you to use the new 64Gb SD cards which is plenty for even a poweruser.

The only way I can see them adding more onboard RAM is if the OS calls for it.
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
Well compare to our current epic, I'm sure the GS3 is a big improvement(besides from lack of kb) 16gb compare to not even 1gb of storage, 512mb to 2gb, can't recall the processor but it might double too?
[Epic 4G General] epic4gfaded:
Ths RAM frequencies have actually have a lot to do with the speed in which application data can be loaded by the processor, so 2GB of the right RAM could help that problem
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
In that aspect, 512mb of the right RAM could do the same.

Adding more RAM is more like adding more lanes to the highway - more traffic can flow without traffic jams, but it doesn't implicitly mean that the speed limit will increase. It does, however, mean that we can have more apps running in the background, so battery drain will be faster ;)

There is a similar cause behind the fact that quad cores aren't twice as fast as dual cores of the same ratings - multicore processors still only have one bus through which they communicate with the rest of the hardware. You can upgrade from a dual core to a hexcore and see no speed increase, if the dual cores were already fully utilizing the bus. Upgrading the bus speed can have a much more significant impact, even without increasing the number of cores.

The point is, a lot of these specs don't mean exactly what people commonly think they do - the equation isn't as simple as hardware manufacturers would like us to believe. Sometimes, it really is just a gimmick - most users won't know the difference if one core does the work 100% of the time, or the same amount of work is divided between 2 or more cores that otherwise remain dormant longer while they wait for further instructions (which are caught up in the bottleneck). The placebo effect will win out, causing a quad core to seem faster than the same setup with a dual core, just because the user expects it to be faster.

I'd like to see true multi-processor setups - supercomputers. The difference is that, instead of multiple cores on one chip (and bus), each core is a full processor-and-bus in its own right - much closer to truly doubling (or quadrupling, etc.) the speed of processing. Of course, this also means more hardware (several busses instead of one, for example), so cost and phone size would probably jump dramatically... and there would be other considerations, like additional heat resulting from multiple fully-functioning CPUs in the same case... but a guy can dream, right? :)
[Epic 4G General] Maui4x4:
You fail to note the latency differences between DDR 2 and DDR 3... so no extra mem doesn't make you faster. Any real computer overclocker will know this simple fact.

I'll take more mem vs a quad core that won't be fully utilized.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
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