yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] techlogik:
See my post above, I did some more testing with speedtest results for each radio/ril combo.

Cliff notes:

1.91 w/RIL is slightly faster with Speedtest with lower ping times, and radio signal is a few dBm higher.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
Just seen it I'll have to give it a try.

Edit: what area are you in? I'm an att user in Virginia.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] techlogik:
ATT LTE Tampa.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
The bottom 3 are with 2.09 and the top 3 are with 1.91.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] paulk_:
Wondering if it would be a good idea to have just the RIL to flash after installing a new ROM. Screwing up a radio flash is something that can actually brick a phone so it'd make me feel queasy to be flashing it every time I update my ROM lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
How is the battery life? I heard 2.09 really destroys the battery, especially during calls
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
Battery has been fine for me on CleanRom. I'm still averaging about 4 to 5 hours of on screen time with tremendous off the charger time.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
That's a massive difference. :eek:

Though I hope others realise this may not be the same for them as it depends a lot on location, carrier etc too.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
Well then I can't wait to try out 2.09 + RIL when completed!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
True, I'm in Virginia with LTE on att. I don't think that Telus works too good in this area, lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
If I switch between radios does the ril get wiped by the new one?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
If the new one has the RIL packaged with it, then yes.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] yohinomura:
After i flash 1.88 with ril, the wifi cannot auto turn off during sleep despite setting is put to wifi off during sleep only when plug in.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shawn1224:
I don't know if you guys know this but I flashed the 1.88 and 1.85 radios with corresponding rils and both of those rils are identical. It shows up as Qualcomm RIL 1.0

I'm using the app Ril infos to verify

Edit - I'm downloading the 1.91 now to see what comes up.

Edit 2 - 1.91 is showing the same ril as well (Qualcomm RIL 1.0)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] techlogik:
Does that include a RIL? Didn't see that option to download.

Some people claimed over on the CR 4.1 thread that 1.91 was giving them bad wifi performance also.

In my area, 1.91 was the best.

Interesting how the different radios/RILs in your area give such performance differences.

---------- Post added at 09:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:05 AM ----------

2.09 on CleanRom 4.1 SE for me with standard RIL has been fantastic.

I'm testing 1.91 + RIL now today and will see how the battery life is.

Waiting for the 2.09 RIL also to test that one due to the great battery life I had with it personally.

Performance for me in my area between the different radios/RILs during normal daily use you would probably never notice. I mean, what is 21mbps compared to 18-19mbps?!?! Nothing really. Still nearly as fast as my home FIOS.

Having just sold my Inspire 4G, I'm like a kid in a candy store with the crazy performance of LTE around here.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
Interesting, but I think a binary comparison of the files would be more beneficial to determine I'd they are in fact identical.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
I had settled in the 1.88 radio as it gave me decent signal but the best battery life while on calls. Now after flashing the new 1.88 w/ RIL I have seen greater dBm (on average about an extra -3 to -5 dBm) louder call quality (that may be from Scotts "fix" to wipe caches to make Cleanrom louder) and better battery life. It defiantly helps.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shawn1224:
Great idea. If anyone has access to a pc they should try this and post the results. I'd do it myself but I'm out in the field right now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Definitely. I was pulling them out of roms with the same base version (with the Telus radio being from big moh's system dump). If some one has the time and the resources to do a binary comparison, that would be rad.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] blacklistedcard:
I noticed a improvement with 1.91 radio and ril. I don't get dropped connection and there is more signal. There is definitely a improvement on the device.

Using CM9 rom.......
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
What region do you live in? On att?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] aggiedf:
When I dl'ed to my phone only shows a -1.zip just wondering if that's what file should look like (downloading that 1.85+ril zip)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dB Zac:
my area (Oroville, CA) is HSPA+ (no LTE yet), using 0.17a.32.09.24_2_10.91.32.19L, my results are) PEAK: 9.56 down, 1.09 up 84ms ping.

Average: 7.58 down, 1.05 up, 103ms ping
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Maybe the file name was too long. What did you use to download, and what file manager? With chrome + es file explorer, I'm all good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Just did a binary comparison between 1.91 and 1.88. They ain't the same folks! :) the first and last lines are definitely different:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
radio issues

I have been using 1.91 and 1.88 as my main radios and today flashed 1.91 with RIL hoping to get improved results (always wipe cache/dalvik before and after) and I know get abysmal dl speed around 100 kbps. Any thoughts ?

I do not have LTE here but typically get around 3800/4000 kbps.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
1) Try rebooting, then try again

2) If it still sucks, re-flash the Rom you're on and you should get the speeds you were back.

I think this is the first report of performance decreasing, though. What ROM are you on?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
I'm on Clean ROM 2.6 so i'm definitely due for an update. lol

I have tried reboot and changing radios as well, no luck.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Very strange. I'd say to reflash 2.6 over it and see if you get your speeds back. Or just upgrade (you're more than a few versions behind, and I dont think Scott is hosting legacy ROM's anymore)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shawn1224:
You're the man :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
I forget the command, but you can check ril versions through termial. Spits out exact dates of the ril.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vin255764:
I never seen 1.91 build,anybody have ruu?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
It's the Telus build. Big Moh provided us with Radio and System partition dumps, but there isnt an RUU yet.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vin255764:
Now I feel outdated lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] G-Bus:
I tried the Asian 1.88 with RIL and it sucks for me. It dropped connection and couldnt find anything. I live in a area where it switches alot between HSPA and LTE. Went back to old Telstra and its all good. Dont get it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
i was able to test 1.91 + RIL today, havent really noticed any improvements to battery life / signal / data etc. 1.85 seemed to give me half the speed as 1.91 but ill try it anyway with the RIL, maybe itll work out? ill try 1.85 + RIL tomorrow then 2.09 + RIL whenever that gets uploaded.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
I Should get the Telstra + RIL up later tonight so you can give that a try....What rom are you on, out of curiosity?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] G-Bus:
King Cobra 1.2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nisbne:
Flashed 1.88 Asia plus RIL this Morning getting good speeds while I was going thru an late area this morning. Will report back battery life later.

In Brisbane Australia on Telstra, most was 3 bars of reception.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pablo11:
Try this command from adb or terminal to show ril info on your handset:

su

getprop gsm.version.ril-impl

Should work ok.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
Very strange indeed. I'm now on CleanRom 4.1 with my normal speeds back....

The most bizarre thing is that I have in the past switch radios back and forth...:D

thanks
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] G-Bus:
Qualcomm RIL 1.0
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Blaze_au:
Same...

Running HTC TELUS 1.91 (0.18a.32.09.01_2_10.94.32.20L) with ril here
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
If you read a page or two back, the rils have the same reported version #, but a binary comparison shows that they are not identical.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pumpiron579:
Try this, works well to check your rill,

Can we get the 209 rill?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
if i flash 2.09 over 1.91+RIL will the ril stay? if so, will it cause any conflicts? getting the ril with 2.09 would be ideal, but doesnt look like its going to happen.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
The RIL will stay, BUT we've been using mismatched radios and RIL's all along. I dont see how it would be particularly detrimental. If you want to go back to the way you had it before, you can do one of 3 things:

1) Flash the Nandroid backup you totally took before flashing the radio + the 2.09 Radio zip

2) Re-Flash the Rom you're on + 2.09 Radio

3) Flash the 2.09 Radio + Grab these 3 files out your Rom's zip file and move them into your /system/lib folder using Root Explorer (or whatever you use) :

/system/lib/libril.so

/system/lib/libril-qc-qmi-1.so

/system/lib/libril-qcril-hook-oem.so

*They probably already are, but make sure the file permissons are all rw-r--r--

PS: I'm just waiting for this 1.81 ROM to finish downloading to pull the RIL's out of and 1.81 (telstra) will be good to go :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
i can do everything you posted other then check permissions. no idea how to do that. looks like ill have to do some reading. i might just try flashing 2.09 anyway without changing those files and see if theres any improvement. thanks TF
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Try long pressing on the file, then Properties (at least in ES File Explorer, I forget how to do it in Root Explorer)

Also, You only need to do 1 of those 3 things, not all 3 :)

Also, Also: Here's 1.81! https://www.dropbox.com/s/xi5ykx8x0...io_0.17a.32.09.03_2_10.85.32.16L with RIL.zip
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
ok great, will give a try. and yes, i knew that. im a newb but not that newbish, haha :D . thanks again!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Root explorer is long press the file and permissions is an option in the pop up ;)

Sent from my Nocturnalized Beast
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
i see the title has been updated. what's new? i can't seem to find any new files in op
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
I added the Telstra Radio + RIL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] luigic81:
i too had horrific download speeds with the ril files. had to reflash rom, did we ever find the cause of this?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Might have something to do with them not playing nice with the rest of the base files...

AOSP based builds have seen nothing but performance increase (i think).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
I'm going to chime in and say that the RIL files caused me issues on any radio except 1.85 (and the rom I'm currently using is 1.85 based).

Both the 1.91 and 1.88 were half the speed for LTE. I literally sat here, flashed each one, and ran a bunch of speedtests with the same server to verify.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
My battery life has taken a hit with using the RIL files too.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
I don't buy the "issues with RIL files". You're ALWAYS using a RIL file, whether you flash one with one of these zips, or using the one already part of a ROM. I think it's a placebo or not giving it time to settle and normalise?

Unless the OP is missing some files that are related to the RIL file?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jjcandroid2012:
How do you know its ril file or you using phone more because of better service
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Ya I'm going to give it a few more days to settle in. But the same usege has dropped me about 25% after flashing the same radio with ril. I'm now on the third radio with ril and no change. Ill give it some more time.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
Right, but previously it was always the 1.85 RIL files for me, since I'm on cleanrom 4.1 (and 4.0, and 2.6 before that, all 1.85 based).

When I switch to 1.88 or 1.91 radios without changing the RIL files, they perform about the same as 1.85. As soon as I flash the corresponding RIL files for each of the radios besides 1.85, my performance drops by half.

I had been running 1.91 for the last 3 days, and have been checking each day. The first couple days I just figured ATT was slow for some reason at that particular time. Then today I tried going back to 1.85, and what do you know, speed doubled. Flashed 1.91 again with RIL, speed half.

Don't know why, but that's just how it is for my phone. Weird?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
so far ive tried the following:

1.91 + RIL: great battery life, good signal, slower data speed than 1.85 + RIL (maybe a little higher in the upload speed, very minor though)

2.09 + 1.91's RIL: crap, overall its just....crap. lol

2.09 + default RIL (from cleanrom) : not as crappy, but still crap.

1.85 + RIL: will test battery life on a full day at work tomorrow, signal strength is better, 3-4 bars on this radio ( 2-4 on 1.91 + RIL ), better data speeds (though 2 days ago i was getting better data speeds on 1.91 + RIL, very strange) .

will report back tomorrow after a day of testing just in case anyone is curious. im curious to see the differences if i start mixing RIL's and Radios. im wondering why the 2.09 isnt working so well as ive read it gives the best signal/speeds (99% of the posts ive seen about this radio) . i look on the map and someone posted speeds for 1.88 only 35 miles north of here. i tried 1.88 once and it was awful. ok im done, just a little confused i guess. lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daddioj:
i dont buy it either. with the RILS i had constant bars instead of fluct up and down. but then again these are with clean installs. when installing radios are you guys clearing cache? and dalvik? then flashing?

1.91 fastastic battery life. and 5 hr 35min on screen time. and the phone still has 20% left prob could have squeezed 6 hrs out of it
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
i clear cache/dalvik before AND after flashing radios
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daddioj:
well you know what works well is. go to a place that has really good signal full bars. and let the radio settle and take in the info. always works for me
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
funny you mention that, i do this at work. which is the best place to test my signal, usually full bars compared to being in my house. i have all sorts of wireless devices in this house, im sure my phone is being affected by them.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Hey everybody,

In regards to the RIL files I'm flashing, there's only 3 to my knowledge:

/system/lib/libril.so

/system/lib/libril-qc-qmi-1.so

/system/lib/libril-qcril-hook-oem.so

The reason I haven't been replacing the old, radio-only files is because i had a feeling all this RIL stuff wouldn't play nice with some ROMs. If you were getting better signal/speed/battery life before the RIL flash then revert back to your old setup (I'mma add those instructions to the OP).

If you guys wanna start messing with mixing different radios with different RIL's you can just switch the files out in the zips. I think that's a bit of a wild goose chase though....

As with anything radio related YMMV, test and test and test until you find the best setup for you.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
does letting the radio / ril "settle in" really do anything? so far i havent noticed any difference in battery life between 1.91 and 1.85 (with there RIL's), but maybe letting them "settle in" could help? :confused:

edit: could installing a different radio/ril cause the screen not to turn back on when going to unlock the phone? i hit the power button, the button LED's came on but the screen wouldnt. weird question i know, but i havent experienced that before and the only thing i changed was installing 1.85 /RIL . i guess ill see if it happens again, if so ill go back to 1.91 ? :eek:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
It's there a radio and ril for 1.73 and 1.82 for AT&T? That's the radio that works best for me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
The 1.82 and the 1.85 radio are the same. Its the same baseband.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
1.82 = 1.73

1.82 != 1.85

Skizz, i was under the impression no one was using those...I'll see what I can do for ya :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
1.82 and 1.73 are the same.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
Thanks. I've been using those and it has given me the best battery life. Tried the others too.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] yohinomura:
Yes, for me too. Currently using 1.82 with 1.88 ril.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Quick update for those waiting on 1.82/1.73: None of the ROMs with a 1.82 Base actually include the /system folder (booooooo). So UNLESS someone is still running on a 1.82 based ROM (super highly unlikely) and want's to pull those files out of /system/lib for me I have to flash an RUU, adb pull them out, and then re-awesome my phone. This might take a min. :D

Edit: OO OO OO, just had a thought. Gonna try to dd the system .img with adb, pull out the files, nandroid restore and see what happens. Now I just need to remember which partition system is on (i.e. do some searching in the S-OFF thread right around the time this thread was created)...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Nabeel Kiani:
HTC ASIA 1.88 with RIL is working amazing for me! My phone is having very steady signals and isn't changing a lot like it used to.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dalvarez0312:
Question, what's a good dbm / asu reading? I wanna test out a couple of these radios and want to have a good base for comparison's sake. I'm in Miami and I see two people sort of around me using the 1.88 Asia radio so maybe I'll give that a go. From what ive read its best to flash the radio+ ril but I see radios posted without it so I wanna make sure, radio + ril is the way to go yes?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Alot of people have had good results from using the Radio + RIL files. Some people havent.

I would say try it with the RIL, if stuff starts screwing up just revert bak to the ones without them. There are instructions in the OP on how to preserve your current RIL files.

Edit: Also, 1.82/1.73 is still in the works. Work and beer keep getting in the way :)

Edit2: ALSO, New TELSTRA RUU available = New Baseband! (0.18c.32 .09.01_10.93a.32.20L). Too bad Filefactory blows dong (5.8 KB/s).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Yay new radio. I'll try it when you finish uploading. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tbridgewater:
Hi Taylor, thanks for uploading is there a link ready or still suffering through Filefactory speeds.. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daddioj:
GREAT RADIO! even in my house :)

uploaded it to my drop box for anyone who needs it now with RILS

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/88768640/Telstra_WWE_1.89.841.9_Radio_0.18c.32 .09.01_10.93a.32.20L+Ril.zip

taylor.fowler upload to whereever you do if u want when u get a chance :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Nooooice. Thanks Dude! Adding to the OP now.

Edit: Added with and without RIL to the OP, and updated the script to print out the right baseband (as to avoid confusion). Thanks again daddio :D

Edit2: Here's what 1.89+RIL looks like for me (top 3) compared to 1.91+RIL (the rest):
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
AROMA All-in-one Radio Installer

I just added a link to the OP for an AROMA installer that eraste threw together. It includes all radios/radios+RIL to date.

I'll be updating it along with the individual zips as more Radios crop up!

Big thanks to eraste for the AIO installer.

Download
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
Getting better ping/data speeds with new 1.89 radio over 1.85. Signal seems a little better as well. Going to test battery today and tomorrow.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
Just switched from 1.91 to 1.89. Wifi seems to reconnect much quicker.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
AROMA Help

I had a pm that said the aroma installer froze and that I needed to learn to write and edit code before I threw a zip together. This is my response to the pm:

(This happens sometimes when you select, unselect something multiple times, go back and forth between screens, its not "normal" but tolerated.

If this happens to you and the aroma installer freezes: not allowing you to select anything, etc.

Exit by holding power button on phone down roughly 10 seconds ( captiva button lights will flash), your phone will reboot. You can then reboot to recovery and try again. Installer will not hang during radio flash.

The installer is large and has to process a lot of files as you select deselect things, so hang ups tho not common can happen but are nothing major to worry about.

I personally tested every file before handing it over to taylor.fowler.

Also there are 25 downloads and 1 mishap (im happy).

I hope this information helps you!

end of my pm)

Anyway I thought I would type my reply here so that others may see it before becoming enraged when a hang up happens! Thanks

eraste

:cool:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
Lol what a tool bag

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Anymore thoughts on the new 1.89 radio?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] taylor.fowler:
Indeed. Added to the OP for future reference. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daddioj:
1.89 radio is sexy to me LOL. use it. its really good. least for me great signal
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
I'm using it with cleanrom basic 1.0. Been working great down here in north carolina on at&t.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dtp7:
Pretty happy with it so far. Seems a tad bit slower than 2.09 that I was in before, but seems like I'm getting better reception in spotty service areas, e.g. my desk.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Ill have to try it then.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thcue:
[Question]

I know this will help out everyone myself included.

What is the proper way to test what RADIO is best for you?

I have been using SpeedTest turning off WiFi set the phone in a spot where it wont be moved to make it fair etc. Then choose a local server within SpeedTest App so that they all test from the same server. I let the test run three times to get an average reading. Reboot into recovery choose the next Radio and repeat the steps again.

Is this what you are doing if not enlighten me.

:fingers-crossed:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
I have a widget that tells me the dBm on the fly so thats what I go by.