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[Galaxy S II General] alen1901:
Sorry to say that but its a little hard to follow OP with xda app or via mobile browser. Dont know how to explain but it would be good to have like this:

Overall battery consumption:

Philz - 3%

Dorimanx - 1.5%

So when somebody looks at OP can say, oh, ok, so dorimanx overall uses less battery then philz, i might try it out. In my opinion its better then every user need to compare every aspect of each kernel.

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[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
I know what you mean but it's easy really.

They are in order from top to bottom of best to worst in night and mixed use catagories.:)

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[Galaxy S II General] SPBoss:
Oh that's what I'm using already with extreme UV lol :) with xda android app it is not so good to see these things

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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Just added short versions for battery test results.

Hope that it's better now.
[Galaxy S II General] alen1901:
Thanks, its much better now, but i meant overall % of all of them. Like wifi + screen + ...

Dunno how to explain correctly. :/

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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Oh ... it's the overall battery consumption.

The other values like wifi + screen only show the ratio of wifi running time + screen on time during the battery test.
[Galaxy S II General] alen1901:
So is it possible to put overall battery % consumption? Just trying to help to make some users easier to understand. :)

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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Overall battery consumption in % per hour is what I specify.

This is just to be independant from the time the battery test runs ... I try to run mixed usage test for about 20 hours, but sometimes it's a little bit longer or shorter.

That would lead to less comparable numbers.

So I just list the battery loss per hour.
[Galaxy S II General] Donnie Sins:
I often follow this thread to read your results, but I wonder if you're planning to test other Samsung-based roms as well in the (near) future. Couldn't find anything related to this question on the last pages;)

I've noticed some difference in different roms, and I'm curious if your results are too.

Greetings
[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
Im getting the point of view of you 2 mates. But me I'm writing every information on a paper. Example on philz vs Dori. I put all the result of It_ler on philz and dori then compare :D it's time consuming but it's the best idea for me :) as It_ler already do his job testing kernels for us :) already help us get an idea what is best to try ourselves :) Cheers Mates :beer: :beer: :beer:

(I see Master Sale quietly listening to your debate :D) silly me ;)

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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I think I have already explained, why I don't want to test different ROMs.

1. I like stock/Sammy ROMs. So no "real" custom ROMs.

2. I want a stable base for my tests. I find it diffcult and time consuming to get a stable base when flashing new ROMs all the time.

3. Testing different kernels on one base ROM over a longer period of time allows to get more comparable results.

4. I have only one SGS2 (no other smartphone or tablet), so I have/want to use it between the battery tests.

So maybe if I had a second device, i could install a different ROM on it and run each battery test parallel.

With only one device, I will not do a ROM and kernel test thing. So it will keep a kernel test thread only.

I decided to use NeatROM Lite as current base ROM, because it is a (deodexed) stock ROM - with many (system) bloatware removed ... so I don't have to this manually. And it contains some nice features (have a look at NeatROM thread for details). But it is still a stock ROM.

IMO, other Sammy based ROMs are very similar. Maybe the removed apps differ a little bit, what will lead to a different battery life.

But as I manually disabled additional apps, I would have to do this on other ROMs too ... to have a similar base ... and to get comparable results.

For checking the difference between the various Sammy based ROMs, you should use the same kernel (as kind of base kernel), which you use on all ROMs ... to see the ROMs' influence on the battery life.

Maybe you are the right one to do these kind of ROM tests :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] Donnie Sins:
Thanks for your answer. I do switch between some Samsung-based roms, like Omega, Alliance, Wanam and Neatrom, with Hirox Light as default kernel. I compare them over night, and with screen on time. I will try to post some results here;)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
You are welcome :highfive:
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
SpeedMod K5-8:

Very good battery life on mixed usage.

SpeedMod K5-8 (XWLSN NeatROM Lite v4.6.1): Battery loss of 1,24% per hour, Wifi: 10,4%, Awake: 12,2%, Screen: 10,3% => loss*(1-screen): 1,11%

Even a little bit better than for latest stock/PhilZ kernel.

Here are some screenshots:
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
I'm on it too, flashed Speedmod k5-8 yesterday, all is good, as smooth as Philz and everything works too like Philz.

:)

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[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
Has the recovery been updated Bob?
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
No, not in SpeedMod kernel.

In latest HiroX kernel versions, geroxx has updated to latest CWM recovery and corrected the internal/external sd card association.

But unfortunately my phone can not run on HiroX kernels.

From HiroX 5.8 changelog:

CWM6-Recovery:

- Updated to newest version 6.0.3.1

- Added /preload backup & restore support

- swapped sdcards in recovery​
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
On neatrom lsn, dorimanx 8.14, six hours battery time, data off, wifi off when screen off.

With same setup, if i enable 3g data, i get only 2 hours screen time, and battery is drain.

3g data is at 10% in my concrete apartment and drainage is huge
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
SpeedMod K5-8:

Just in addition ...

3rd run on AnTuTu: SpeedMod K5-8 (XWLSN NeatROM Lite v4.6.1): 10153

It's a new high score on this base ROM and my phone.

This kernel is really fast ...
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
As said Antutu is crazy first score is 9300 3rd is 10150 :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
nice result Mr.It_ler. i'm thinking now if im going to try ehehehe. but as Mr.Bob said it it smooth like latest philz. i don't need to think anymore now :D. going to try it too tom. :thumbup: ;)

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[Galaxy S II General] david nai:
great work .:good::good:

---------- Post added at 03:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 AM ----------

I'm really confused.which one is best for stock JB XWLSN ?:confused::confused:please
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Battery wise :confused:

The first kernel in my test result list had best battery life on my phone.

ATM, it's Dorimanx v8.14.

But SpeedMod K5-8 and latest PhilZ-touch kernel had also very good battery life on my NeatROM Lite v4.6.1 ... which is stock XWLSN.
[Galaxy S II General] WWLK:
Can I ask if you changed any particular settings in display with stweaks when you were using dorimanx 8.14? I am using the default settings but screen is still making my battery drain quickly. I have it on the lowest brightness but for some reason it seems quite bright still (but on gsam it says dark)
[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
He tests all kernels on default settings. But he uses an app called better wifi. .
[Galaxy S II General] a0007:
Good morning

I want to share apolo regular 4.5 kernel test

Really, it's very good ..3 hours & 30 min ... and remaining 40%

I hope to test it ..
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes. I am on complete default kernel settings ... No manual tweaks for the display. And no screen filter app.

Maybe you have to reboot the phone or change the brightness manually to a higher value, then change it back to the lowest value.
[Galaxy S II General] WWLK:
Hmmm I tried that already but thank you. Btw, I find that my mobile data signal seems to use more battery/hr than wifi. Both are strong signals as I have a mobile signal booster at home and also home wifi. When you use the better wifi on off app do you have mobile data "on" when you have wifi on so when the app switches off wifi your mobile data kicks off? Or do you just lose all internet connectivity on screen off? :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
As I have mobile data always enabled (I have an Internet flat rate), as soon as there is no wifi connection, my phone uses mobile data connection.

Here my "high-level" scenarios:

1. Screen on > wifi on > wifi connection > stays on | no wifi connection > goes off (mobile data connection used instead).

2. Screen off > wifi off > mobile data connection used instead (hopefully phone goes into deep sleep).

As Dorimanx uses a different wifi driver than in stock kernel, this might be more battery friendly.

On my site, I have better battery life with wifi off (and mobile data on).

Nice idea with a signal booster :good:
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
I just look for an signal booster now, quite expensive, 250-300 euros
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Re-test PhilZ-touch kernel v4.93.6:

Still very good battery life on PhilZ-touch kernel in night use.

PhilZ v4.93.6 (XWLSN NeatROM Lite v4.6.1): Battery loss of 0,47% per hour, Awake: 1,4%

And very good deep sleep ratio.

Updated first post.
[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
so Latest philz has Good Sleep ratio than Speedmod latest? am i right mate?

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[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Yes mate!

Philz 4.93.6 - 0.47%/hr

Speedmod K5-8 - 0.56%/hr

But....Speedmod is slightly better in mixed use 1.24%/hr v 1.28%/hr

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[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
thanks mate. i just want to make sure :D but Speedmod has great mixed usage result than latest philz... hard to choose. but im on speedmod now trying what is best for me :) :thumbup:

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[Galaxy S II General] WWLK:
Hmm I'm trying out speedmod too after seeing the results on the first page. In deep sleep it went through 9 hours on 2% (but I had wifi and data turned off). However I find that when I'm actually using the phone constantly (i.e. whatsapp) then it only lasts for about 10 or 15 minutes for each % drop. I wonder if this is normal... going to have a closer look at the different scenarios on the first page again.

At this rate I'm going back all the way back to where I started before I tried to be all smart and save battery with siyah/dorimanx :eek: maybe stock kernels are the best for me :silly:
[Galaxy S II General] miguelmflores:
mmmm I normally make my battery last at least 12 hours, but I might do this to try :)
[Galaxy S II General] kadivarz:
nice
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Is Apolo light (no undervolt) on your list It_ler?

Trying it out now and it's very good, would be very interested in what you thought of it and where it would come in the rankings:)

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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Already downloaded (v4.5 regular with English TWRP) ... and just added to my kernels-to-test list :good:
[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
That makes two of us kman..let's compare results when you are done:)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Not yet flashed.

I will finish my current tests on PhilZ kernel first, then nandroid backup, and then I will flash Apolo kernel.

So it may take a while till I have reliable results for this kernel.

But you are welcome to post your results and experiences here.
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
Dude i tried better wifi on off app but i have a question. I am on neatrom and jb reloaded. Wifi policy set never. Then screen off. Wifi toggle was on and checked BBS

wifi on 25m 10s

wifi runnig 25m 8s

Is it normal ?
[Galaxy S II General] cnjax:
Better wifi app never worked properly for me either, I had better results using the Sammy settings for wifi

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NeatRom Lite 4.6.1LSN

Apollo 4.5 v2

JB Reloaded + MYLR blue theme
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
Tried on dorimanx stweaks app. Auto wifi on. Not working properly either. When screen on after 3-4 seconds it says connected to the "My Router". It seems working good but BBS is not saying like that :(
[Galaxy S II General] cnjax:
If I recall correctly the implementation in Dori if you select auto wifi it takes 30 seconds after screen off for wifi to be shut down.

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Apollo 4.5 v2

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[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
Yeah that is right i know. I select auto wifi and screen off. After 10 minutes. BBS says wifi on 10m wifi runnig 9m 58s.
[Galaxy S II General] cnjax:
Hmm that's strange, could be a false reading from bbs, try implementing your settings and monitor it with gsam battery app.

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Apollo 4.5 v2

JB Reloaded + MYLR blue theme
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
Gsam battery app has only wifi active option. Does it mean wifi runnig or wifi on ?
[Galaxy S II General] cnjax:
Gsam will show how long it's active, so if you set wifi to go off with screen off then it should be less then overall battery time, therefore you can determine it's shutting off properly

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Apollo 4.5 v2

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[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
Yes, There is a problem with bbs :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
With Better Wifi On Off app, this can be normal, as it turns wifi off (reduce wifi on and wifi running time).

Depend on your settings.

I used 30 seconds as delay time for turning off wifi.

Be sure that the app was granted root (superuser / su) access rights.

And I recommend to change the ROM's system wifi policy "Keep wifi on when phone is sleeping" to "only when plugged in" or "Always" ... and let the app control the wifi on/off setting.

That's why I have set my wifi policy to "only when plugged in" ... kind of double safety ;)

Hmm ... wifi on time is OK, as auto-wifi will not turn off wifi as Better Wifi On Off app > so it will not reduce the wifi on time ... only the wifi running time > like the system's setting / wifi policy.

I never had issues with auto-wifi option on Dorimanx kernel.

Have you rebooted the phone after changing the setting in STweaks?

All STweaks settings will take effect after booting ... need some time ... 2-5 minutes after the phone has (re)started.

Then test again. But disable Better Wifi On Off app first.

Haven't checked BBS thread.

If you have not reported your issue yet, please record a BBS dump file and post it together with the Better Wifi On Off log to BBS thread.

Maybe chamonix (dev of both apps) can find something.

I will check my wifi on and running times too.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Apolo v4.5 (English TWRP):

I just flashed Apolo kernel v4.5 with English TWRP recovery.

I used the regular version.

It bootes and work fine ... for a while.

Then I had SODs, unresponsive touch screen, etc.

Seems to be not stable on my phone ... maybe same issue like for HiroX.

As long as it is not stable on my phone, I won't flash it again ... so I can't test it ATM.
[Galaxy S II General] cnjax:
You may want to try the light version, all the others have the gpu uv by 50mv

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Apollo 4.5 v2

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[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
This is my result with Apolo regular kernel. It's really smooth for me. As smooth as philz.. I have now flashed extreme v2 version. I will report results tomorrow.. :)
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
You need light It_ler, just change voltages in the configurator app to light, no need to get a different version

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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, I know.

As the kernel dev recommends to flash regular version first, I wanted to follow this instruction.

And I tried to stay on completely default values for my first test.

Now I am back on PhilZ ... maybe I'll give Apolo light version another try. But not today.
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
I tried apolo kernel extreme v1.zip flashed I had SODs too. And I had note 2 gallery with live thumbnail. After flashed apolo kernel. Thumbnails were black then back to the dori :)
[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
Extreme v2 Apolo resulted in freeze and sod for me, so test aborted..
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
That's your phone not being able to handle the low voltages, why did you not just change to extreme, regular or light before getting rid of it? :confused:

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[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
Going to do just that Bob :) changing to regular..
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Good:thumbup:

I found if you have note 2 live thumbnail mod then video player force closes but it's fine with normal stock video player.

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[Galaxy S II General] hekinci:
Thanx for the tests.Quite useful. My room is Neat 4.6.1. I use hirox medium. Can you test hirox extreme and inform us. You are the pro.
[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
he can't test hirox mate as Hirox is not stable on his phone. he has many Sod's. Please read a few pages back to know more about it.

+ you can try and test it yourself mate if you are curious about that kernel. No harm :) :thumbup:

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[Galaxy S II General] kadivarz:
weird i just wanted to try the apolo yestrday i tried extreme v0

and the phone is even faster than dorimanx

try kernel wipe or somthin dunno maybe might work :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
My live thumbnail video player worked fine on Apolo kernel.

But I had some reboots and SODs even on light version.

As I already expected ... It's the same like on HiroX kernel. They don't run stable on my phone.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
That's very strange because light is stock voltages:confused:

The thumbnails worked ok but when I pressed one to watch a video it went black screen then got message "video player is not responding" every time.

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[Galaxy S II General] mathmachado:
You're on light version?

I tried light and it was worse then speedmod, Im thinking about trying regular!
[Galaxy S II General] kadivarz:
emm guys try to do kernel wipe then wipe cache and dalvik did this on apolo extreme v0 and all u mentioned above is workin fine

and the start up is smooth too

dunno might help tho
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
I have black thumbnails on apolo with note2gallery.zip file
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
For few days i use natural on display screen mode, and i get 15 min more screen time. Now display look likes am htc, lg, with normal colors.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Re-test PhilZ v4.93.6:

I have done several battery tests on PhilZ-touch kernel v4.93.6 on my XWLSN NeatROM Lite v4.6.1 ROM.

Here is the best result for mixed usage test.

PhilZ v4.93.6 (XWLSN NeatROM Lite v4.6.1): Battery loss of 1,20% per hour, Wifi: 10,0%, Awake: 10,9%, Screen: 9,9% => loss*(1-screen): 1,08%

This is amazing ... best battery life on this base ROM / on my phone so far.

Here are some screenshots:
[Galaxy S II General] Jeetu:
Seriously.

Awsome battery life.

2hrs screen usage and still on 74.:eek::eek:

Could you please upload what apps you are using.
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
I don't understand this. My battery is new just for 1 month. Original stock battery. I am on Neat Rom v4.6.1 and battery friendly Jb Reloaded theme with black backgraound with dori 8.14 kernel extreme_battery profile + blnww + 100 mV gpu (didn't touch cpu) undervolted for eaxh steps. I did same tweak with It_ler 2g/3g Auto signal mobile data on etc. Same tweaks at this 2 page.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1682765&page=246

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1682765&page=247

Just plus using facebook,viber and falcon pro (Twitter) hibarnated with greenify. Without google maps,talk,google reader news.

Now %100 to %8 21h 45m (17h 41h Deep Sleep, 4h 5m Awake) %4.2 per hour.

21m voice call

2h 51m screeen on (lowest brightness)

4h 30m wifi active

It is very bad battery life raleted to It_ler's result.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Seriously ... nearly no apps were running.

Here are the few apps (extracted from my BBS dumpfile - partial wakelocks, processes, alarms and network):

Google Talk

Google Calendar

BetterBatteryStats

Greenify

Google Reader

CalWidget

WhatsApp

Better Wifi on/off

MMS / Messaging

Elixir Widget

Lookout

Google Play Store

With more apps/usage, the battery would drain more ... but I am a (very) "light" user :angel:
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I recommend to install BBS app, record an idle dump of about 4hours and post your dumpfile as attachment in BBS thread.

Maybe we can find the culprit with more information.
[Galaxy S II General] kadivarz:
well well well dori 8.15 is on i guess the philzz results are about to get smashed :P
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
You mean Dorimanx v8.16 is out ... dori is fast ;)
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Facebook & social media clients are killers.

Try just using browser bookmark for facebook/twitter if you are not one of these people that has to tell everyone you are going to the toilet and post pics of your dinner:D

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[Galaxy S II General] kadivarz:
hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa damn
[Galaxy S II General] Emre9110:
No, I am not one of them :D but apps are smoother than browser. I am using them with greenify :)
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
Dor 8.15 was on interactive gov, and dynamic clocks on, and for some this gone to bootloops, sod, freeze, myself included off course.

Now on 8.16, we have hyper gov as default (i use ondemand) and dynamic clocks off(bump cpu in some scenarios if on, default sammy is off)
[Galaxy S II General] marcusmt:
XWLSS on my way!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, I'm already preparing to flash XWLSS ROM.

Maybe a new base ROM for my tests ...
[Galaxy S II General] kadivarz:
wat up man cant see jeboo 2.2 dori 8.16 or even good new phillz results

hope ur doin well ^^

Peace out
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, I'm doing fine.

As I said in the post before yours: I am preparing to flash a new ROM (XWLSS).

Maybe this will become my new base ROM for further kernel tests.

That's why I stopped kernel test, till I have checked the new ROM.

If it's good, this is the new base for future kernel tests.

It it's not good, I revert back to XWLSN and continue my kernel tests on my current base ROM.
[Galaxy S II General] kadivarz:
good luck man i love your work sooooooo much this thread is always opened on my lab :D
[Galaxy S II General] ciprigeorgiu:
i know this is a kernel test thread but i have a different question...do you guys see any difference in battery life when changing to Dynamic mode in Display Settings>Screen Mode?
[Galaxy S II General] a0007:
:good:

Thanks to the explanation
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Changing the modem to XXLPW on stock XWLPI ROM had worse battery life on my phone.

So, XWLPI is a good stock ROM with very good battery life, but it doesn't feel as smooth as my "good old" XWLPD.

I will restore my last nandroid backup and prepare next kernel tests ... may take some days. I want to be sure that my system is back on "normal" to achieve reliable test results.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
No luck for flashing DarkKnight 1.8 ... even on my stock XWLPI ROM, it stuck after boot animation on first boot.

So it is not the ROM ... must be something different, which causes the problem.