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[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yeah, I have tried so many different things to make the CM9 port work and since it is just different enough, I can't get it work any different than it already does. I tried it withe the TelephohnyProvidor.apk and the libs dir, and a few other things, and still no love.

Hopefully you have some luck, that I just have not gotten.

I am 100% sure once we get the AT&T leak, that I can get the CM9 compile that I have been working on, to work as it should for us. I will take the kernel from the leak, and compile the CM9 from the nightlies, and build the rom, from the instructions on the cyanogen page, with OUR leaked kernel attached, and it should boot without issue.

I did something similar with CM7, and it works, sort of... I have compiled a fresh kernel but since we are locked, it ONLY works with kexec, but I can only get 1 CPU to work, and it is SLOOOOOOOOOOOW.

Hopefully, I can figure out a way around this with ICS and CM9 from our leak.
[Motorola Atrix 2] shamsud:
why these moto**** people lock the bootloader, previously i was using samsung and it was unlocked. I think due to this factor samsung is winning in android, In india people rarely buy moto****:(

What is value of android if one cannot modify it
[Motorola Atrix 2] :
Samsungs software is different from Motorolas. Motorola makes a more stable product in my opinion. Waiting on the bootloader to be unlocked and waiting on leaks is half of the fun. If you have it all handed to you as soon as you buy the phone it gets old, quick.:)
[Motorola Atrix 2] Deliberate:
+1 i actually like wait as well. Its kind of exciting!
[Motorola Atrix 2] :
All I can see from the screenshots is that Motorola has barely done anything with the UI, which is great but why does it take so long to do this minimal stuff, why Q3 then?

*feel free to delete if you believe it's off topic, sorry but wanted to know if there's really a reason.
[Motorola Atrix 2] matt99017d:
I am constantly getting an " check for update is not available, please check back later."
[Motorola Atrix 2] vinamilk:
Plz do not compare Cadillac vs Huyndai or Kia.

Maybe Huyn or Kia with lighter weight, runs faster, more polisher outside, but no need to explain more about the class between them.
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
Not me cuz the shelflife on androids is crap lol any of you guys take a peak at the leaked atrix 3 pics that's coming out?

Quad core cpu,2 gb ram, 10megapixel camera ..

Only downside about droids,unlike the iphone ..your model gets dated quick. For some, they dont mind, but ill hate to be rockin a dual core while watching everyone else with their quad cores.
[Motorola Atrix 2] daavvis:
Word!!!
[Motorola Atrix 2] zvnbadboy:
I tried flashing > "Originally my Atrix2 was Searet flashed to Mearet from http://sbf.droid-developers.org/edis...ET_cfc.xml.zip" using RSD. Gave me error.

Now I'm stuck on:

AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S) (Flash Failure)
0A.68

Tried flashing original 2.3.5 using RSD -> didn't work. Gave me error on flashing boot.

Now every time I restart phone, I hold vol+- and power and choose Normal Powerup
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
ouch! what does it boot into if you choose normal power up? ICS or the old GB?

if it is working I might leave it. you can try manually using moto-fastboot to run through the commands, but if you erase boot, there is a chance you can't get it back if it is refusing to flash. That would leave you with a really expensive paperweight, so I would leave it for now.
[Motorola Atrix 2] zvnbadboy:
It boots in to GB.

It alredy refused to flash original 2.3.5 using RSD.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Except that in the US the quadcore chips don't play nice with LTE, you won't see a quad core phone on LTE in the US very soon, if ever.
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
well I would just live with it. I think If you tried to do the upgrade you may have an ICS kernel, which will not allow downgrading. If it ain't broke don't fix it until we get more of this figured out.
[Motorola Atrix 2] ishantnu:
Thanks to you wonderful guys, I am on ICS now :-)

ICS seems to be running pretty well on my A2. I would love to help if I can in any way, like uploading backups et al.
[Motorola Atrix 2] socialx:
i think you may try different versions rom with the rsd. may be the newest gb or sort of. Just like the case of ME865, we can flash it back to GB from ics with selected rom only
[Motorola Atrix 2] shardul1994:
Did you flash the one in this thread or the SEARET posted in general section?
[Motorola Atrix 2] lilhaiti:
First try rooting ICS (there was a working method a few pages back)

Then try the Bootstrap to install CWM

Then make a NANDROID backup and upload it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
To the person(s) comparing the Samsung devices to Motorola with unlocked bootloader issue.. I don't remember the exact story but either Google or Samsung released the galaxy S2 series to the dev community (cyanogenmod) before the phone was ever released and the leaks they get aren't by accident they are pushed out on purpose because of this deal. They have everything the devs need for that reason. Check the cyangen website for more details on this. It was on their news feed several months back. The same thing will eventually happen to Motorola because now Google owns Motorola.

Sent from my Photon Q using ultramegaextremeXDA
[Motorola Atrix 2] ishantnu:
The one mentioned in this thread.

I was on SEARET flashed to middle eastern ROM and then to ICS
[Motorola Atrix 2] ishantnu:
I am rooted, as suggested on the OP
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
A lot of people keep saying that they think Google will change MOTO, but there was a press release back in Nov. where Google said that they would NOT force MOTO to do anything that they do not already do. They have also stated that they will leave MOTO alone, and that they will NOT show any sort of "favoritism" toward them as a phone manufacturer, with the android platform.

Also don't forget it is the carriers who hold all the cards in the locked bootloader game. The ONLY reason that MOTO will NOT unlock the device (even with a website or a flash) is because that way they can still "support" it's warranty and be assured that YOU did not wreck the phone or the carriers network with YOUR issue. The other manufacturers that ALLOW unlocking are then released from the warranty, and they will NOT replace the device. With Samsung, the first time you flash back to stock with ODIN, you void your warranty. I have 2 friends who have skyrockets, that died, and Sammy would not honor the warranty, so one friend dropped the device in the toilet and took it att for thier replacement through the service contract, that they pay 5 bucks a month for.

MOTO will NOT change their policy even with Google at the helm. It has been stated many times by both Google and MOTO.

The reason Sammy is so keen on good devs getting the phone, is so that things can be released right about the time the public get the phone, and and the apps can all work nice with the hardware, it is just that people like cyanogen have an ulterior motive, just like most of us would.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
Lol oh well. I will still buy Motorola devices in the future. They are great phones and some one always finds a way around the development blocking issues. My photon seems to be one of the most popular on xda when in terms of locked bootloaders and ics. We have around 10 different ics roms and we started out like the attrix 2. Everyone kept telling use we wouldn't be able to get ics without a leak. They swore it was pointless to try without that leak but now here we are several months later with no leaks of any kind and its one of the most stable phones I have running ics, out performing the e4gt. With the exception of video recording through stock of course.

Once someone here figures out the bootloader issue here then I assume we will also have a flood of ics roms being ported.

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[Motorola Atrix 2] vinamilk:
Like Intel, they lock everything on their mainboard that support for overclocking, just maintaining stable for end user but encouraging OC on others like Asus and Gigabyte for their CPU's technological marketing.

HTC and Samsung unlocked their phone's bootloader and let customers feel they get a big deal when decide to buy these phones over others.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
Not all HTC and Samsung. Just the important ones :P there are several besides Motorola devices that have locked bootloaders. Some are easier to unlock than others but few are actually unlocked by the manufacturer themselves

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[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yep, this is 100% the case. and right now ONLY HTC does an unlock service on their developer network website. The rest of the phones that are locked have a way to unlock, that is NOT a cryptographic signature like MOTO, one that is a 256 bit cypher mind you. These other bootloaders that are unlocked are done by XDA folks, or similar folks on other android sites.
[Motorola Atrix 2] soudy1994:
wrong post
[Motorola Atrix 2] zvnbadboy:
Tried diffrent stuff, some how i fix my problemm. Luky mE)
[Motorola Atrix 2] okachowwa:
Why doesn't this work on the AT&**** Atrix 2? JW?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Because the audio chip, the GPS chip, and the radio are all different. I also THINK the wifi chip is different as well.

That being the case, you can't just take the kernel from any Atrix2 and run it on any other Atrix2.

That is also why a lot of times on other phones that have CDMA and GSM radios, that there will be 2 different ROMS and kernels, that is because there are most likely more than just the Radio that are different.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
I thought I heard HTC were going to start locking the bootloaders down on new devices. Is this true?

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[Motorola Atrix 2] xanadu:
Do you mean at&t's MB865 has other hardware like MB865 from rest of the world?
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
Because our mb865 differers in hardware from the international.

For gingread international roms its not an issue because we have a gingerbread radio,baseband,kernel thaylt will work with gb international roms. (Just the gb international system dump,NOT the int. Fxz that include their firmware,kernel ..etc)

So with that said ..we need our own at&t ics kernel,baseband first before we will be able to use these int. Ics cwm backups. With ics comes new kernel,baseband,new everything all together as its a whole new operating system.

once we DO get our own U.S. ics leak,we will not only be able to run int. Ics roms if we felt like it,but CM9 kang also.(after a quick buildprop edit/ step or 2 to change to gsm only )
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yes both the MB865 international version and the ME865, have different harware from the US AT&T version of the MB865. That is because there are certain restrictions in the US about certain radio frequencies, so the radio, GPS, and I THINK the wifi chip as well, are all different over here.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
The gingerbread radio should work just fine for the international leak with tweaks but I can see how the kernel would be an issue. Besides the radio being different for obvious reasons. What else is different between the two? I guess I could google it but im at work and it takes about 30 minutes just to type out one message

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[Motorola Atrix 2] xanadu:
Unlocked bootloader could change hardware components?

I think there are only software differencies like bootloader, baseband, etc.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Unlocked bootloaders have nothing to do with it.... Besides none of the Atrix2 phones have an unlocked bootloader.

The Atrix2 has 5 iterations if you look at slight hardware differences alone... The ME865 is a completely different phone (2 versions of that one) for all intents and purposes.

Then there are 3 different Hardware revisions in the MB865, you have the asian version, the the Euro version, then the US version, each one carries a different GPS chip, and the Asia version has a different wifi chipset from the Euro and US versions.... now just because the actual chips are different does not mean that they operate differently, just that the software kernel drivers ARE different, so are the apps within the sofware for those parts....

Hence all the different software releases that this phone has, which includes the kernel and those chip drivers.. that is the whole reason this sucks so much for us devs.... especially if we are working on something like cyanogen mod, sine there is NO source for the MB865 phones, only the ME865 phones have the source released.
[Motorola Atrix 2] xanadu:
Could you give me source about the 3 hardware versions of MB865?

I never heard about european version of MB865 nor ME865.

From Atrix 4G I had both in my possession, the at&t and the european version and used both with at&t and european rom after bootloader unlock (EU version needed a small file, called "ramfix" to see whole 1 GB ram).

So I think it would be sufficient to open bootloader here too. American and european languages are included in MEARET ICS too:
[Motorola Atrix 2] ross1998:
Cheesecake

when checking cheese cake after about 10 servers i get the the this is taking longer then excpected with any server i try. Is this only me or is it like that for everybody?
[Motorola Atrix 2] MagicXB:
Oh yes, I've gotten that message plenty of times when constantly checking multiple servers. It's basically a message saying "hey, you're overloading our servers so we're not gonna answer you right now!" - however, a simple reboot of your phone will make that message disappear for at least a little while. ;)
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
It happens.its normal
[Motorola Atrix 2] xanadu:
Tried to edit files with apktool - no success by repack after added 1% battery files to .../res.

Notification toggle +Battery monitor installed from market and works fine: on battery widget are volt+%+uptime, in Notification toggle adding apps is possible:
[Motorola Atrix 2] Bensal1992:
CAN I INSTALL THIS ANDROID 4 BASED ROM ON MY AT&T ATRIX 2 ?

I need clear answer!
[Motorola Atrix 2] MagicXB:
No, it's pretty much as simple as that. :(
[Motorola Atrix 2] bsbob:
:confused: I'm its not clear enough for me :confused:
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
The answer is no,you can not.
[Motorola Atrix 2] adelvillar:
Jezz!!! Just Read the OP right after "What is this???".
[Motorola Atrix 2] yishay:
Atrix 2 formerly At&T

Hello

I have an AT&T Atrix 2 unlocked rooted with Atrix Sonya v4 - AtriXperia rom.

Can I install this rom ?
[Motorola Atrix 2] chiikko561:
Read a little bit somebody just asked this question right above you no you can not
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
Just stop answering these people lol. This is called spam and its unnecessary. If the read the thread topic they will find the clear answer :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] nephillim:
Could just tell them....

"Why yes!! You CAN install this ROM, go for it! Just make sure you have your Warranty Exchange ready!!!!"
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
Was wondering if anyone has tried building a cm9 or aokp build from this at least for the people that can use it. Because once the first custom build is out from this leak then other devs can come in and tinker with it to maybe getting something working for the ATT folks. That's what was done on the atrix 4G to the photon. Cm9 came out for the atrix 4g first then was altered to work on the photon later. Both phones have the exact same hardware with minor differences. Like the photon being a world phone and having completely different GPS hardware. Pretty much the same situation with the atrix 2 and the overseas version

Edit: and yes before anyone says anything.. I know that someone is already working on trying to build cm9 or aokp for the ATT users with this leak but why not just focus on getting a cm9 or aokp for the device this is for first and release it then focus on the ATT folks. That away it would give other devs who don't have the time to build a complete rom to just come in and tinker with what's already built and working
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
There are 2 reasons.

1) Most all of our devs are in the US and have the AT&T version of the phone. So we could not even test this if we wanted to.

2) We can't just make an ICS rom for phones running the GB kernel, and since we are bootloader locked, we can't flash a boot image from the ICS phones if we wanted. That is why the updates are all just patches as well. We can't do anything with ICS until EVERYONE gets the OTA installed on their phone, before any ROMs can even be officially released, otherwise no one can RUN them, since we can't flash a kernel image to the boot partition.

This is also why getting CM9 working has been such a mess. The two phones you are talking about have the bootloaders unlocked, so that makes it more likely that doing it that way worked for those devices. We have to go about it in a whole different way with this phone.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
The bootloaders were unlocked by devs not Motorola. If anyone decides to unlock their bootloader using user method we have to sacrifice 4G. Also Motorola recently released a new OTA to 2.3.5 for the photon (unsure about the atrix 4G) that has fixed the hole exploited to unlocking the bootloader and has even made it impossible to downgrade to 2.3.4 to unlock the bootloader again which kinda sucks.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yeah I knew that, and that is where we got the idea to use cheesecake, so we could hopefully find an unlocked bootloader. I also knew Moto started pulling that crap, and that is one reason I will not buy another moto phone... they make doing any dev a pain.

I am not having much luck with unlocking it. I am getting closer, but until that happens we will not have CM9 or an AOSP working on this phone. I have tried every way possible to get anything besides stock to boot.

I have had one way that I can do it, but it is a single boot, then once you reboot, the phone is hard bricked, so... like I said until we get that the options you gave won't work for this phone.

Look not to sound like a jerk, but unless you are going to jump in an actually help us devs over here out, just go back to your dev work on your photon.... You really are not helping us out much, and just distracting from what we are actually trying to do to fix our issues.
[Motorola Atrix 2] bpear96:
Does anyone know if the bootstrap recovery still works on this on the non at&t atrix 2. i dont think it works anymore on the razr ICS leaks, the exploit might be blocked, or bootstrap CWM needs to be recompilled/tweaked, idk but if it doesnt work, then that means that if a CM9 build is built, using stuff from this leak (libs and kernel mostly) there would be no way to flash it.. since the user would have to be on the leak ICS before install. (to have ICS kernel)
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
Cwm for ics droid razor

http://www.4shared.com/file/L9Wbk6Mm/recovery.html

Of course itll probably need to be tweaked to mount system as its located in a different spot than ours before itll install anything (different mount commands) but that should be relatively easy to do.

I might tear it apart tomorrow morning to check it out and have it ready for us if its in my means.
[Motorola Atrix 2] xanadu:
Atrix2Bootstrap.apk works fine and RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip too.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hellot1M:
I'm just trying to get as much information on this as possible because I know how to build cm9 and aokp but only on phones with unlocked bootloaders. I've never messed with a phone that was so locked down as this one so was looking for information from people like you who have all this knowledge on this device. I would love to help out as much as possible but am completely clueless about the importance of the bootloader. Everything I have ever done in the past has been pretty straight forward even on devices with hacked locked bootloaders. Every response you have ever given has always been helpful in understanding this device more and I'm just trying to throw ideas out there that might be helpful.

I keep getting mixed views on the situation. It seems like even if we had a leak for the ATT atrix 2 its like we wouldn't been able to develop a cm9 anyway because a true cm9 requires a modified kernel which needs some form of a bootloader hack to flash. I have even started work on a cm9 from this source using an emulator but seems like whatever I make would be pointless anyway without access to the bootloader att leak or not
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
And that is cool, and I don't mind sharing information, but this thread is not the bast place to do it, since it is technically off topic. Also we have had a ton of devs that have come in and though that they knew it all just to find out that they could not get any farther that we already had, and then leave, or just get mad and start causing issues. That is why I was a little defensive, in my previous post, I really was not trying to be a jerk.

On to the CM9 thing again.

I am also very very involved with cyanogen, I started working with it back during CM5, and I love it, it is so easy to get working on most phones, and it runs like a monster. The issue here, is that we can ONLY boot a modified kernel by using kexec, and that will not boot CM, since of course we can't boot CM with the stock kernel at the moment, then swap the kernel with kexec while we are up and running, like kexec does.

Right now, I am pretty sure that we can't get a native version of CM7 or CM9 working for this phone. I had a version of CM7 working with using kexec, but with the latest version of kexec, I can no longer get it to boot.

my hopes are that once we have ICS that we can then build a version of CM9 that is based on the "stock" moto ICS kernel, I know that hascode did it with the bionic (and it was on version 2.3.7), so I am hoping that I can figure something out as well.

If you want to talk more about this, we should start a new thread about CM9 information and make it a [WIP] thread.
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
I know it's still off topic, but how is it that we can boot the Droid 3 aokp ICS builds while still on a GB kernel? I know that means it's not completely ICS, but certainly better.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Because it is not really aokp, it is just sort of.... and what it really is, is that the guys on the droid 3 were able to compile it based on the 2.3.5 or 2.3.6 AOSP kernel, not actually true ICS. That was my hopes for CM9 was to get it to compile against our kernel, but it is proving to more of a monster than it should be.

Yeah if you can get the sudo aokp ROM to boot on our phone than that is a great thing, does everything work, like the phone, GPS, etc., because the driod 3 is a CDMA phone as far as I know.
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
it boots fine and runs great, but there is no phone obviously. I don't know about gps
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
with proper build prop edits and ics radio drivers that we will get from the at&t ics leak/official rom ,i am hoping the cm9 droid 3 kang will atleast give us 3g. the build wont work with the new ics kernel we get so its going to be a flash from our gb rom. After pulling and plugging in the radio drivers from the ics at&t build when we get it before flashing the kang.

This should work.

The only reason it hasnt happend yet is because we need the ics radio drivers from an at&t leak/official rom release. I am waiting patiently.