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[Galaxy S II General] PholkLorr:
Hey Lter, do you find the battery loss of using the leaked XXLSJ to be worth it over the 4.04 roms? I do like the updated stock apps on XXLSJ but the battery seems to be much worse than 4.04.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I also like the new features of JB and especially the new TouchWiz Nature UX launcher.

Battery life in night use is better than on ICS and in mixed usage it is nearly the same (compared stock to stock kernel) ... when disabling wifi and some (bloatware) apps.

The main difference IMO is that as long as the source code is not published, there are no compatible custom kernels.

As I hope that Samsung will release JB sources soon, I stay on JB for a while.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
What is RILJ in partial wakelocks?

Can anything be done about it?

Sent from NeatROM marketing and PR dept.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
RIL is radio interface library.

So this wakelock has something to do with the radio/mobile connection via the modem (e.g. connection to your mobile provider for phone calls, mobile data, etc.).

It shows that a process/app is using your mobile connection.

If this wakelock is significantly high, you can try to flash another modem or change RIL files.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
I have no idea how to read them or know if this is good,normal or bad?

This is not overnight use, its just normal use, do i need to do it untouched overnight?
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Please use BBS thread (=> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809) to get the needed descriptions and help for analysing your BBS dump files.

To find the main battery drainers, provide an idle dump of at least 4 hours ... while doing nothing/screen off all the time.

Use BBS app v1.11.0.0 (latest stable version - same as from Play store).

After the idle time, save dump in BBS app menu and attach it to a post in BBS thread, and kindly ask for someone to analyse it.

Good luck !
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Very good battery life in mixed usage with wifi off when screen off and Skype not running.

NeatROM XXLSJ (FD disabled, no Skype): Battery loss of 1,64% per hour, Wifi: 100%, Awake: 16,2%, Screen: 10,7% => loss*(1-screen): 1,46%

I keep it as a confirmation about my assumption that wifi and (new) Skype (app) are the main battery drainers on my phone ATM.
[Galaxy S II General] Cangir:
Awesome battery at last test, are you using Philz kernel?
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, I am running PhilZ-cwm6 since I am on XXLSJ.

But as it is a rooted stock kernel, it should not make a difference for performance and battery life.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Great battery life, your right about wi-fi on this JB base it eats battery like a fat girl in a chocolate factory after breaking up with her boyfriend!:D

I've gone back to JB NeatROM and this time didn't change modem and seem to be getting better battery life even though signal is worse.

Maybe something to do with having the correct RiL matters more on JB?

NeatROM lite JB + PhilZ 3.73

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[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I am back on NeatROM Lite v4.0 after testing some ROMS :) i think this ROM is best in comparison of battery life .. I would recommend this Rom to everyone :) and i have not changed Modem as the default Modem is working fine for me ... I have to use Juice Defender though as i dont like switching Wifi or Mobile Data off :)
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Maybe It_ler knows better but i'm sure juice defender is no good?

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[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Why is that so ? can you explain please?
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
I don't really know its just something i heard/read.

If it works good for you then thats ok:)

Edit: seems the wake locks outweigh any battery saving. Stops phone sleeping properly!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1389093

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[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Hmm , it works just great for me ... i easily get 2 days battery life with it .. i am a heavy caller and music lover :).

is there anyway , you can tell me what apps have you freezed and how? so i can see the difference then
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
I haven't really deleted many apps on this JB ROM and can't remember what they are but i use my phone quite heavily and have never had 2 days so just keep it as it is, you're doing good;)

This is my last cycle.

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[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I got 2 days when i was testing it with Juice defender , i just flashed this again today and i haven't installed juice defender yet .. so first i will try without JD and then with JD and see the difference :) and will update the cycle screenshots here!

---------- Post added at 09:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:30 PM ----------

Sorry my bad it was not 2 days , it was 1 day 2h :) you can see the above pictures :) that was with JD as you can see in the above top left corner :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
You can have a look at BBS thread (=> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809).

There you will find some posts about Juice Defender, as it generates some wakelocks which encapsulate the "real" culprits sometimes.

If you are happy with JD, stay with it.

It's just a recommendation for users who are not satisfied with their battery life, to remove JD and examine BBS dump to find what is draining the battery.
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I will give it a try without JD first .. Can you please tell me which apps on this ROM you have disabled and how ? as i can see you are getting good battery life without JD , i think i will just avoid JD and see the difference first :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Here I posted my manually disabled apps => http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34652270&postcount=1094

And here are my latest mixed usage battery test results for XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0 => http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34928938&postcount=1134

That could (theoretically) lead to about 2,5 days (including about 6 hours screen on) on one battery cycle (1.650 mAh stock battery).

I think it's a very good result for a leaked ROM, isn't it?!
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Here's a list of some things you can remove but only remove if you're not using the app associated with them!

Turn email sync to manual too, use default email and delete gmail, google + and all Samsung apps.!

I also delete all software update and remote control apps.

Its for S3 i think but its the closest to the JB ROM on S2 in a list!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34465832

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[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
yes sure , that is not bad in anyway.. i will give it a try thanks for the help!
[Galaxy S II General] AndroidGX:
a little hello

Hey It_ler mate! (and S2 users who recognize me)

Long time I didn't get back into this thread (really miss me since my S3 migration) :)

Glad to see it growing everyday :good:

I hope you at least changed one (or several) time your battery after all those tests :D

There still isn't so much kernels for the S3, many none-active of them, sadly :(

The most active for the moment are still definitely Siyah one and Perseus (from Andreilux) which looks already promising and with the time coming ! :cool:

See you soon mate :highfive:

PS

: just changed my avatar for this month, hope you'll like it :D
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Good to hear something of you ... and S3 is also "only" a smartphone.

As the new JB (Android 4.1.2) looks very promising and offers new TouchWiz Nature UX features, I think I can stay a little longer on my "old" SGS2.

And really nice avatar ... I am curious about your avatar for easter :D
[Galaxy S II General] AndroidGX:
(Hey siberian tiger mate too :good:)

Yeah, we just received freshly an official 4.1.2 firmware (from Poland) ;) waiting for wanam to bring us his lidroid 23 toggles mod (15 toggles will be outdated soon :cyclops:)

Will stay you tuned for my easter avatar, will try to do something special :laugh:

'laters :good:
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
From Poland and not for S2? What a shame. Who provided this? For sure it was not me :D

Regards and all the best for S3 users :)
[Galaxy S II General] Siberian Tiger:
I know that already mate (since morning)

And already downloading 10% :p

Edit:sorry for the OT it_ler :)

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
No problem ... You are always welcome in my thread :)

P.S.: I am also a silent S3 news reader. :cool:
[Galaxy S II General] Siberian Tiger:
Thanks :highfive:

So i suppose you have seen already my Index(link in sig) ;)

You already have one or are you planning to?
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
No, I haven't got an SGS3 ATM.

I was planning to buy one, as I wanted to get JB (and future firmware releases) ... and we had to wait a long time for the first JB leak for the SGS2.

But now, as XXLSJ looks quite good, I will "freeze" my plans for upgrading my smartphone for a while.

As long as I am satified with my current device, why switch to another one :confused:

(Take this as an rhetorical question which doesn't need to be answered ... AndroidGX already listed some pros for the SGS3 to persuade me :o)

Maybe I can stand to buy a new phone till S4 (or something similar) is available ... just to have a newer/faster/better/bigger/etc. phone like you :p

(Just kidding ...)

P.S.:

Nice thread. Will visit it unregularly just to be up-to-date for S3 ROMs and kernels :good:
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
---------- Post added at 08:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 PM ----------

S4 should be here in April;)

http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2012/samsung-to-unveil-galaxy-s4-in-april.html

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[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
My battery life without JD

Not impresive with screen on time though but overall I am satisfied :) as I had alot of calls & text msgs and it passed whole day easily :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I see some awake time in long deep sleep phases.

Maybe you should check with BBS app (=> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809) to optimize your system.
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I will use that app and get back to u with the stats :) hope I can fix that awake time...
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
This might be an interesting app for you https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onexuan.battery

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[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Thnx let me try it :)
[Galaxy S II General] _Sale_:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0

very very similar results as yours over night

Your Skype-100%

Tapatalk refresh every 15min

XDA app refresh every 30min

FD disabled

wifi-100%

awake-25%

screen-8%

loss of 3.3% battery per hour :(

Ill make the test again after uninstalling Skype
[Galaxy S II General] Siberian Tiger:
I will suggest you to change rom :D:D:D

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] _Sale_:
for example S3 NeatROM I9300XX... :)
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Noooooooooooooo!!!:mad::D

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[Galaxy S II General] Siberian Tiger:
Hahaha you jealous.I will be the first one to test Neatbeast S3 :D:D:D:D

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, it seems that we are running the same ROM ;)

Have you installed the Skype app v17 from Theos0o? Or the new official Skype app from Play store?

I'm still curious about the AudioOut_2 wakelock.
[Galaxy S II General] _Sale_:
installed v17, maybe i should try official
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Have you checked your wakelocks and deepsleep ratio when Skype v17 is running?

Can you provide a BBS dump file?

If you don't want to post it here, you can PM it to me.

I just want to check if the AudioOut_2 wakelock issue is related to this modified Skype app or not.

Thanks in advance !
[Galaxy S II General] _Sale_:
Nope, sorry. I will repeat test on Saturday and report back with pics and dump file
[Galaxy S II General] THE RED BLUR:
Yes I am getting the same. Not roms fault but the kernel I guess by Phil is not as open to configure due to lack of open sources so it's really stock so Samsungs fault.

That's why I miss my Dorimanx kernel :(

Wi Fi drain was never this bad. I guess I will use the timeriffic app and set it to go into airplane mode during the night.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alfray.timeriffic
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Mine seems ok http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35055079

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[Galaxy S II General] THE RED BLUR:
This must be on my 3rd or 4th cycle.

And I am latest Phil kernel that came with Aroma 2.0 mods.

SIGNATURE

PHONE : SGSII

Sent via: Tapatalk 2

Main ROM: NeatROM Lite 4.0 (ONLINE)

KERNEL : Phil

(DEFAULT PROFILE AND SETTINGS)

MODEM :

GAPPS :

BATTERY : Stock 1650mAh

EXTERNAL Sdcard : Samsung Class 10 32gb
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Its all them monitoring apps and mobile security:D

I noticed a significant difference just by freezing/deleting BBS!

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[Galaxy S II General] Androidio:
Benchmarks for Kernels&Roms

Thank you - so much - for sharing this useful data...

What a work! :good:

Best regards
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Which app showed you the difference after freezing/deleting BBS?

(Just kidding ... :D)

I alway need at least one app to show my the complete battery stats ... and stock battery monitor is not enough IMO.

As I don't recognize a significant difference of battery life on my phone when using BBS, I prefer this app.

But it's everyone's choice to use or not use the app he/she wants/likes.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
My latest battery stats of "normal" => light usage of XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0 with PhilZ-cwm6 v3.73 kernel:

Battery loss: 97% (100% to 3%) => 1.44%/h

Time on battery: 2 d 19 h 31 m 11 s

Wifi On: 100.0% (but with wifi policy set to off when phone is sleeping)

Wifi Running: 11.4% (real wifi time!)

Deep Sleep: 92.4% (yes, as I said ... light usage)

Awake: 7.6%

Screen On: 2 h 2 m 59 s => Ratio: 3.0% (ok, it was very light usage)

Bluetooth On: 0.1%

(See attached screenshots)

This is with stock CPU values (200 MHz - 1200 MHz, no UC/OC/UV/etc.) and with stock (1650 mAh) battery.

About 1,44 %/hour battery loss on very light usage is quite OK on a leaked ROM IMO ... at least without any manual tweaks (as UV/UC/etc.).

Good enough for being my daily driver till offical JB ROM will be released.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Very good:thumbup:

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[Galaxy S II General] THE RED BLUR:
Lmao. :D

The thing is I use this in all my kernel tests so I have my own baseline to assess from so when compared to experience from Dorimanx its a higher drain. But it's cool. :)

This has been leaked so I hope this helps other kernel developers.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2036554

Kernel Source Out For I9100 HK

SIGNATURE

PHONE : SGSII

Sent via: Tapatalk 2

Main ROM: NeatROM Lite 4.0 (ONLINE)

KERNEL : Phil

(DEFAULT PROFILE AND SETTINGS)

MODEM :

GAPPS :

BATTERY : Stock 1650mAh

EXTERNAL Sdcard : Samsung Class 10 32gb
[Galaxy S II General] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
Dont get me wrong, am a very junior member, but i believe the usage of a phone should be tracked randomly rather than for the sake of the achieving a number, hence would request you to hold unto three game apps(1 low end and 2 high end), stock email app with at least two accounts, some music, some video, lotsa browsing, and then check, the reason being most of the atrociousness is associated with users isolating usage to certain apps(watching a movie for 2 hours or reading an ebook for 2 hours) to achieve unrealistic performance values.

Hope you understand what I mean:), reason being I have used phenomenal extreme for a week and the performance for end to end cycles with mixed usage, aint any better than a siyah, undervolting doesn't help unless you are tampering with your observation by minimizing the apps you are using and inadvertently limiting ur user experience.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
That right ... for you.

If you are happy with SiyahKernel, keep it and stay happy.

I just want to inspire users to test different ROMs and kernels on their phones.

Finally, you have to choose the software doing the best job for you on your phone.
[Galaxy S II General] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
Thats not entirely correct, look at at this post, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26488751&postcount=425, the gentle man has posted that he has gotten 7 hours of display time running reddit news and tapatal k all day, thats pretty bull to benchmark the batt performance of any rom or kernel with whatever variation you want. The reason i sighted the post is to prove that am not just talking about a single kernel but a homogeneity in understanding the true potential of a kernel, hope you would understand:)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Hmm ... I am not quite sure if I understand what you really mean.

Do you think that AndreiLux's results are not realistic? And/or mine?

Or what exactly is your point?

I agree that the kernel must fit to the rest of the firmware, the system settings, installed apps, usage, etc.

Only a "good" combination can lead to best performance and good battery life.

What is most important for you?

Battery life, performance => smoothness, configurability, ...?
[Galaxy S II General] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
Well i will rest my case mate, i don't understand what you are saying either:)

Do you think that AndreiLux's results are not realistic? And/or mine?

Or what exactly is your point? - I will not use my 1.2 ghz sgs2 to read reddit nws and tapatalk all day to get 7 hrs of batt life:), mixed usage of yours is highly ambiguous:)

What is most important for you? - As a new user I would like to have a realistic evaluation of my phone perf using apps and setting befitting the potential of the phone.
[Galaxy S II General] OGroteKoning:
You miss the point of this thread. It_ler has tested a lot of kernels under similar (light usage) circumstances. He treats all the kernels in the same way in order to compare them to each other.

We accept that some variants of kernels have different performance and battery values and this thread shows how the kernels compare under similar circumstances. Ideal would be if there are another two threads where medium and heavy usage are also tested, but this can not be done by one man alone.

So instead of finding fault with a specific type of usage and results after weeks of testing, take what you can from it and do some tests under your particular usage. Who knows ... maybe you will be the guy who has a similar thread based on heavy usage.

@ It_ler ... awesome work mate! Keep it up.

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Ok. Now I think that I got your point.

As I also bought a smartphone with a 1.2 GHz dual core CPU, which was the best/fastest with top scores in every benchmark for a long time, I won't underclock or cut the technical features of my phone either.

So, we have something in common ;)

Why is my "mixed" usage such "light"?

Because this is my "normal" / everyday / real-life usage.

Sorry about that.

And for me, it is most important to test my system in real-life usage.

To be precise: I my real-life usage.

As OGroteKoning already wrote, if you want some test results for another usage ... maybe your normal usage which seems to be "heavier", then be inspired to start testing different kernels on your phone.

You are welcome to share your results and experiences.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Re-test for XWLPD:

In over night usage, XWLPD with Fast Dormancy disabled has even worse battery life than with Fast Dormancy enabled:

XWLPD (XXLPX modem + OXXLPL CSC): Battery loss of 1,17% per hour, Awake: 9,0%, Deep sleep: 91%

As consequence, I will enable Fast Dormancy again.

And I have to re-test again with the original modem file for XWLPD => XXLPW.

Maybe this will lead to a better battery life.
[Galaxy S II General] superleeds27:
Whats peoples thoughts on Siyah 3.3.2

Im stuck between choosing that and NEAK 2.0.6

People have said that Siayh is alot better now with the 2 new tweaks
[Galaxy S II General] OGroteKoning:
I use Siyah. Love the dual boot option!
[Galaxy S II General] bervin:
it's been great so far, On my first cycle, and i managed to clock 15hrs standby, 2.45hrs screen time with 55% battery left.. i'll pose screenshots when the battery is close to depletion.. i just ticked arch power and the gentle sleepers things for the heck of it..
[Galaxy S II General] AndroidGX:
Currently trying it since yesterday night with some tweaks (uc + extweaks modif). Overall idle deep sleep after 6 hours : 99% left with sync of 3 gmail account + wifi on. And already 74% left now after some hard use (with 1h06 screen on). I think it's my favorite Siyah kernel version of all time. But in general kernel battery life, I've seen better.

Just made a TB backup and device rebooted by itself after 3 minutes. No problem after. Didn't lost my stats so I continue playing with that kernel a bit more ;)
[Galaxy S II General] superleeds27:
Interresting, stuck between it and NEAK hmm...
[Galaxy S II General] ADX@ss:
Thank you so much bro for sharing all your great tests. Very useful as you know.

So, from what I understood, is that the best betteryfriendly Sammy ROM is LPD ? :o
[Galaxy S II General] jackrip5:
Great work. Big thanks.

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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
For me ... on my phone, with my usage ... yes.

I am re-testing XWLPD now with some changes.

But stock XWLPD still had best battery life of all tested stock ROMs so far.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Re-test for XWLPD:

Mixed usage battery test results for XWLPD with Fast Dormancy disabled is worse too:

XWLPD (XXLPX modem + OXXLPL CSC): Battery loss of 2,35% per hour, Wifi: 100%, Awake: 19,9%, Deep sleep: 80%, Screen: 10,3% => loss*(1-screen): 2,11%

Now I will flash the original modem file => XXLPW for stock XWLPD.

Maybe this will result in better battery life.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Re-test for XWLPD:

Over night usage battery test of XWLPD with Fast Dormancy enabled again and its original XXLPW modem is nearly back on "normal":

XWLPD (Fast Dormancy + XXLPW modem + OXXLPL CSC): Battery loss of 0,86% per hour, Awake: 6,1%, Deep sleep: 93%

I will wait for the mixed usage battery test to draw my conclusions.

But I am optimistic to have my stable system back as the base of further kernel testings.

P.S.:

If I have any doubts, I can still restore my last nandroid backup of XWLPD.
[Galaxy S II General] OGroteKoning:
I am monitoring your progress ... Can't wait for the final results!!
[Galaxy S II General] AndroidGX:
In my experience, it's very hard to test kernels, as we often change base rom firmwares and everytime it's never the same. We often blame kernels but I guess it is more to our roms. I can't have a stable experience for test, always having random wakelocks or always a little thing that will skew the stats numbers, and sometime it will be perfect (rarely).

So, to test kernels perfectly, it's almost an "Art" :cool:
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, to have a baseline, as much as possible has to remain the same/unchanged ... same apps/settings/environment/etc.

I'm already downloading the source code ... want to have a look at it ... maybe I can see some changes to the leaked XXLSJ version.

(Ok, experienced Android devs will see more and faster ... maybe we should ask Gokhanmoral, Tungstwenty, Dorimanx, salesale, etc. to examine the sources?!)

Download of source code complete ... let's have a "short" look at it.
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
Think that source link has been posted on every dev and discussion thread but haven't seen an answer yet
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
It is Saturday and maybe too early to judge. Even the experts need some time to analyze the source code in detail.
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
Can't help but be sceptical, always hope for the best but expect the worst from Samsung :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Releasing the source code is already a positive thing :thumbup:
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
+1 Yes, fully agree, these are very good results. Currently I am testing battery life on 1650mAh battery and I doubt I achieve so good results even with my tweaks :)

Regards