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[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Ok, I think this is my last weekend on XXLSJ ... next week, I will probably restore my "old" XWLPY and continue with my custom kernel test.

Samsung might need some time to release a JB version which works fine on my phone :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
NeatROM Lite will be out in a few hours, i'd give that a try first before going back;)

Mmmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite*
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Ok, after many advises and some disappointments with stock XXLSJ, I finally flashed XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0.

It is stable and very smooth on my phone.

Everything seems to work fine - even the multi windows feature.

I flashed latest PhilZ-cwm6 kernel v3.62 for XXLSJ and installed latest SU app from Play store.

As I was on XXLSJ before, I only wiped cache and Dalvik cache - not data (=> non-wipe installation).

I will add its benchmark results to first post, but it seems to have nearly the same scores as stock (odexed) ROM.

Would have expected lower results for that de-odexed ROM.

Anyway, performance is more than enough for my normal usage.

I am very curious about its battery life ... and deepsleep ratio compared to stock XXLSJ.

EDIT:

Benchmark results added to first post.

Most are nearly the same as for stock (odexed) ROM.

Only AnTuTu shows significant lower score.

Fortunately, I do not recognize this in my "daily" usage.
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
how is battery life for you ? can you provide some screenshots ?

and can you please link me to NeatRomLite v4.0 ? i cannot find that in the original thread :(
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Link is in my signature - click on the ROM text.

It is in the Android development section, not in Orginal Android development.

Here you go => http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1569686

I have just flashed this ROM on my phone ... some minutes (about 2 hours) ago.

So I can say nothing about battery life yet. I'm still charging the battery after doing all benchmark tests.

I will post all results as soon as my battery tests are finished.

And I try to remember to take some screenshots ... oh, I have to make a note somewhere :D
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I am looking at the same thread as you provided but i cannot see the lite version to download .. :-s i can only see the full version which i dont want .. i need to install the lite version (which has crap apps deleted) :)

i will be waiting for your screenshots :) and then i will flash it :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Oh, I am sure salesale will update the first post soon.

Here is his post with download link and changelog for XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0 => http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34522178&postcount=11816
[Galaxy S II General] mikiles:
Here you go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1569686&page=1182
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Thanks alot , downloading it now .. :) will just need to see the battery life on this from It_ler :) as soon as you provide the battery life stats and screenshots , i will flash this then :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
After first 2 hours, I see only about 50% deepsleep ... while doing nothing and screen off all the time.

After 2 h 24 m 45 s: Level lost 8% battery loss (from 99% to 91%) => about 3,3%/h.

That is not very good.

Here are my first screenshots of battery stats, but I have to examine it during a longer period of time.
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
1 thing is certain from my own testing with Better Battery Stats

com.google.android.location is incredibly chatty.

I have 4 minutes screen off time and com.google.android.location has posted an alarm 3 times.

com.google.android.gsf has only 1 Alarm.

In 6 hours come.google.android.location has posted 658 Alarms.

I would like to know what the devil for ?
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
And you have all location service options disabled in ROM settings menu?!

I will compare it to my BBS log tomorrow and report back.
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
Not at first.

Then I disabled the wireless ... and noticed that the gps icon was coming on every half minute or so.

Then I disabled GPS and it all went quiet.

I uninstalled the MAPS app that came with LSJ and installed the one that is on Google Play 6.1.4 as of today

Same thing... if there is no wireless then GPS pops up.

So I uninstalled maps all together and... not one wake up alarm.

My crude analysis suggest that google maps is for some reason consistently pinching battery power.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, Maps ... have a look at BBS thread (=> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809)

In post #3 you will find a link to Karpfenhai's description of how to "optimize" Google Maps.

That works fine on JB too.

And I meant the options in ROM menu Settings > Locations > disable [UNTICK] all options (GPS, wifi and allow google ...) there.
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
That is not very good .. I am getting good battery life on simplicity lite version ...
[Galaxy S II General] igos2:
Lol, U finaly flashed a non stock rom !!? Not honest for all the other custom roms !

Using Tapatalk2 on my amazing GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
why?
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Im having fine battery on NeatROM Lite, did you do full wipe, even data format?

Mmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite*
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I had wiped data when flashing stock XXLSJ on my previous ICS ROM.

While flashing XXLSJ NeatROM Lite over my stock XXLSJ ROM, I only wiped cache and Dalvik cache, as described in the flashing instructions of the ROM.

Everything works fine ... and the main culprit was wifi, as I have wifi on all the time. Was the same long WLAN wakelock as on stock XXLSJ.

So wifi seems to be a "battery eater" of that JB (leak) ROM.

Now I disabled wifi when screen off. Let's see how that works for battery life.
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Here is my battery screenshots .. I am on simplicity lite version with updated kernel .. installed juice defender ... still 12% left so it can easily go 2-4 hour , but I would charge lol...

I guess thats not a bad battery stats at all :) I guess better then neatrom :)
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Here's mine from first day/night on NearROM lite JB
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
NeatROM Lite JB. Stock everything.

Sorry for double post, its a nightmare trying to do it on my phone:o
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I have 20 hours and still 12% is left :) it can go 4-5 hours more easily ... :) I guess Simplicity Lite version is better :)

Using less memory as well :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Very good deepsleep ratio and battery life in night use - when wifi is disabled.

NeatROM XXLSJ (wifi off): Battery loss of 0,67% per hour, Awake: 4,3%, Deep sleep: 95,7%

I will make another night use battery test with wifi on all the time as usual (for better comparing with the other test results).

Now I try to check its battery life in mixed usage ... as I am busy today, I may have to repeat this test tomorrow.

P.S.:

Will attach some screenshots when battery test are finished - don't want to "disturb" it with attaching USB cable or additional wifi data transfer ATM.
[Galaxy S II General] omnia-one4all:
Had pretty bad battery time with stock 4.1.2 too. Deep sleep was around 76 % I changed the modem to nelp4 an it went to 89 %
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
And less memory? haven't closed any apps at all in 20+ hours! Flashed new PhilZ kernel 11mins ago though but thats plenty of time for apps to start up again.

Sorry It_ler for clogging up you thread but i just had to reply to that, its pretty clear which ROM uses less battery and RAM don't you think?;)
[Galaxy S II General] Vihru:
you have stock rom? not any freezed apps? and newest philz kernel? thanks!
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I have XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0 and PhilZ-cwm6 v3.62 (not latest, as Phil has release v3.65 shortly).

Freezed apps ... only removed from salesale - I think.

Will check it again after my battery tests.
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
Problem with XXLSJ is when WiFi or 3g is always on. :)
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Please no "My is the best ROM/kernel" statements.

You are all welcome to share your experiences and test results.

And I accept if you feel that this or that kernel/ROM perfectly fits your individual needs.

But I don't want that my thread becomes a plattform for "my ... is better than yours" discussions.

Thanks for your understanding !

P.S.:

Will add this into first post.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Agree completely and did apologise but had to say something when he was slagging NeatROM off.

Sorry again, end of arguments:thumbup:

Mmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite*
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I am not slagging any ROM :P i am just comparing two ROMS :P

Sorry About that , My Apologies :)

Wow, from the screenshot i cannot see any apps running so obviously RAM would be less used :P
[Galaxy S II General] _Sale_:
Many thanks for the test mate
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Strange how you only got 57xx in Antutu It_ler, i got this on first try:confused: which would put it at the top!

Are you using NeatROM Lite?
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I don't bother much on benchmark results.

Maybe it was caused by charging. Had the phone on charger for some time when running the benchmarks.

Will retry after battery tests, when phone and battery are more "relaxed".
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Good battery life on mixed usage ... very good for a leaked ROM.

NeatROM XXLSJ: Battery loss of 1,81% per hour, Wifi: 100%, Awake: 17,0%, Deep sleep: 83,0%, Screen: 10,1% => loss*(1-screen): 1,63%

Will check it on a second battery cycle ... just to verify my results.

Will attach some screnshots of night and mixed usage.
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
Screenshot Screenshot_2012-11-24-16-02-43.jpg show that wifi didn't work all time but works when screen is on
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Correct.

As I said in my post about the night use battery test, I set the wifi option in ROM settings menu to disable wifi when screen is off.

That was due to massive battery drain caused by very long WLAN wakelock with wifi on all the time.

After I have finished all battery tests with this setting, I will re-do the night use battery test with wifi on all the time - just to see the difference.
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
Sorry my mistake, i've forgotten.
[Galaxy S II General] Mik3laNg3lo:
Very good info...keep up the good work...tks :thumbup:
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1979995

Great new battery app!

Mmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite* Quicker than Seb Vettel
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Thanks for the suggestion.

I have already read the xda-news and downloaded the app.

It looks good ... and claims to make it easier for "normal" users to identify battery "drainer" apps.

Maybe I will give it a try and check it's own battery consumption with BBS app ;)

But I don't want to push my battery stats to the cloud ... if I can disable this option, it would be nice.
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
Agreed
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
Un-Deleted

I unplugged from 4am and at 7:51pm I still have 50% power... light use (Sunday) but still impressive.

It is stock with only the bloatware removed.

I reactivated location aware features in settings and google maps just to see if they are really battery hogs.

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This is a snapshot done after I rebooted... just to make sure my battery meter was work ing properly.

So the 15 hours was interupted by a deliberate reboot... but no recharge was done... at that time... I had 91% power after almost 7hours sleep time and light use

I havent turned on google now as yet.

Weird. I would normally be at 23% by now...
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Even slightly better battery life and deepsleep ratio in night use after disabling Fast Dormancy.

NeatROM XXLSJ (wifi off, FD disabled, no Skype): Battery loss of 0,65% per hour, Awake: 3,2%, Deep sleep: 96,3%

Strange ... on GB and ICS, I always got less fd wakelocks and better battery life with Fast Dormany enabled. But now with this JB version, it is the other ways round. Maybe my mobile carrier has changed something?! Or the JB ROM/modem is working with it in a different way :confused:

Anybody else experiencing a change for Fast Dormancy?
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
What network you on?

Mmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite* Quicker than Seb Vettel
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
As written in my user details: O2 Germany.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
On xda app, can't see your details!

I'm on 3UK and just tried fast dormancy off and my phone won't even connect without it!

Mmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite* Quicker than Seb Vettel
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
In Romania on Vodafone dormancy is not implemented, with it off i have 5mb(45mbs)wifi speed, with it on i have 4mb wifi speed. On 2 sg2 phones same results over and over.

Some say fast dormancy does nothing to wifi speed, well....
[Galaxy S II General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Here r my battery stats ... FD disabled as my network doesnt support that ...I guess its not a bad battey time :)
[Galaxy S II General] pilgrim011:
It's a massive battery drainer as you can see in OP on screenshots, so I'll just pass for now. BBS isn't draining almost nothing. Maybe in a few months.;)

Btw., LSJ (NeatROM Lite) is really great for me. For example, yesterday I had (in 21-22 hours)over 3h screen-on (45 minutes was heavy gaming), 1,5 hours call time, lots of transferred data with screen off etc. Similar stats (with heavy gaming) was impossible for me to achieve on ICS, except with brigthness on minimum.
[Galaxy S II General] Vihru:
NeatROM XXLSJ (wifi off, FD disabled, no Skype): Battery loss of 0,65%

what did you with that ROM? all is default? no any blotware deleted?
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
It_ler, i'm waiting for your test with wifi always on.
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
My carrier has fd working properly.

Maybe that is something causig issues.

I had intermittent weird battery issues until they just stopped... now it runs smooth.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I did nothing special.

Just flashed XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0.

Most bloatware apps are already removed.

And I posted a list of my disabled apps.

My settings are written in short in brackets: wifi policy set to trun off wifi when screen is off, disabled Fast Dormancy (as I recognized fd-secril wakelocks with FD enabled) and Skype app was not running.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
If nothing disturbs me ... this night.

As soon as my tests are finished, I will post the results and update first post too.
[Galaxy S II General] adrian13th:
Is it possible to use voltage control app to limit max processor clock to 800mhz, and save more battery?
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Basically yes, you can use Voltage Control app to change the min. and max. frequency for the CPU.

But you can only choose values supported by the kernel.

If the kernel supports a range of 200 MHz - 1200MHz, then you can lower the max. frequency of your CPU to 800MHz.

Good luck !

P.S.:

Samsung also has phones with lower CPU frequencies, such as the Galaxy S. No need to pull the brakes on your SGS2 IMO. If your apps/usage need more computing power, why not letting it go to the maximum what's possible :confused: After that activity, the CPU should go to minimum frequency or into deepsleep in best case.
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
It's possible. I personnaly use SetCPU app. However 800 MHz when screen is ON is too low for me, so I limited max scalling freq to 1000 MHz. I use for that also init.d script - why? because apps like SetCPU, Voltage Control etc apply their settings almost at the end of Android booting phase and init.d script at the beginning, so the new value of max scalling freq is implemented earlier (maybe saving some juice more).

I also made a profile for "Screen OFF" where I limited max scalling freq to 500 MHz. Additionally I tweaked a little Ondemand governor to be more battery friendly.

Ps I'm missing any of custom kernels very much. Tweaks on stock one are almost not possible - at least very very limited :crying:
[Galaxy S II General] adrian13th:
Thanks for detailed explanation, I tried with 1000Mhz, noob I/O first and set it at first boot, and the CPUspy app seems to report correct value ATM :D
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Nearly the same battry life in mixed usage with Fast Dormancy disabled ... but I was running new Skype app version.

NeatROM XXLSJ (FD disabled, new Skype): Battery loss of 1,80% per hour, Wifi: 100%, Awake: 18,3%, Deep sleep: 81,7%, Screen: 10,0% => loss*(1-screen): 1,62%

As I see massive wakelocks and alarms for Skype, I will restore my old Skype app and prepare the night use battery test with wifi on all the time.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Good results It_ler!

Are you glad you tried the NeatROM goodness?

Wait till proper JB version comes out, then you will see what Salesale can do;)

Mmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite* Quicker than Seb Vettel
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Yes, was a good try :good:

My motivation to test NeatROM only had to be big enough after disappointments of the first stock/leaked JB ROM.

Now I think I will keep it as daily driver till the first official JB ROM version are released.

I have already adapted first post a little bit and moved XWLPY based test results into third post.
[Galaxy S II General] AllSeeyinEye:
Hey buddy,

Your tests and especially the sharing of the results are very well appreciated. But I think the overview (in the first post) is kinda getting lost. Perhaps it would be a good idea to split the results, so that an overview per ROM base is visible. That way there's still use for the older bases that some people might still be running on, and the early adopters of each build can also see your results on that specific base.

... although I understand splitting it up will be a tremendous effort ... :)

Running a beta version of Speedwizz LSJ right now, after trying the odexed leak, Simplistic and Wanam. It behaves almost equal to the remarkable LPT base when looking at the battery, some 20 to 24 hours and 3 to 4 hours of screentime, (besides the lockscreen lag every now and then and some minor freezes of memory consuming apps). I'm looking forward to the official releases and perhaps even more to the custom kernels that will be developed after Samsung releases the source!
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
Stock Samsung Leak.... nothing fancy.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Very, very bad battery life and deepsleep ratio in night use with wifi on all the time.

NeatROM XXLSJ (wifi on, FD disabled, no Skype): Battery loss of 2,06% per hour, Awake: 28,7%

That seems to be one of the main battery drainers of the leaked JB ROM.

Wifi signal is very strong but consumes much power ... at least on my phone in my home WLAN.
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
I read that new modem can cause battery drain. If you can flash XXLQ6 and see what will happen.

I've question to your last test with wifi not always on. Did you use mobile internet ?
[Galaxy S II General] Vihru:
Where you have posted that list? Thanks
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Is there any kind of fix for the wi-fi issue It_ler?

Mmmm! *NeatROM JB Lite* Quicker than Seb Vettel with more KERS!
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
Will check it ... some time ... maybe next weekend.

EDIT:

I did not turn off wifi completely.

I enabled wifi, but in menu Settings > Wi-Fi > menu "Advanced" > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep > Never.

That lead to turn off wifi when screen is off ... in simple words.

So when screen is off (and phone should be idle/sleeping), the only data connection is mobile.

But when unlocking the screen (and phone awakes), wifi is turned on again.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I meant the screenshot of my manually disabled apps, that I attached to the post again.

I only disabled the few apps on this screenshot manually ... the rest of bloatware was already removed by salesale in his XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0.

The only fix I flashed additionally was the one for long press volume keys to skip songs.

So really nothing special.

And I checked with Gemini App Manager the autostart config for Google Maps exactly like described by Karpfenhai in BBS thread (a link to this description with screenshots is in post #3 of BBS thread).
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I don't have another fix than disabling wifi.

AFAIK, developers need the source code of the firmware/kernel to isolate the wifi driver and then they may find a way to "optimize" it for better battery life.

Or we have to use another wifi driver and replace the existing one.
[Galaxy S II General] Gillion:
So both wifi and modem systems are a work in progress that may hopefully have an official fixed version a few days away.

I am patient (for obvious reasons)

But other users are forced to struggle and that is no fun.
[Galaxy S II General] marcusmt:
i m using this modem (XXLQ6) and battery drain is continuous ,i use 3g all time my battery is gone quickly but deepsleep ratio is high
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
Its not True, on xwlq2 my wife today has 1 day 13 h with 66% battery remain on 3g, with 1h 30 min screen time.
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
I've flashed modem XXLQ6 over XXLSJ. My phone is working 2h on battery with sync on and 3g on and I've still 100%. :)
[Galaxy S II General] AllSeeyinEye:
Then you have a problem in your ROM because that is simply not possible. Expect a sudden battery drop as soon as you really start using it :)
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
So I'm waintg 5-6 h to test it :).
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33669047

Didn't have noticable drop after!

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[Galaxy S II General] Siberian Tiger:
In GB days i managed 12h30m 100% with siyah all default :)

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
I only got my phone when ICS was out so never tried GB.

I looked at my friends phone who was running it and was extremely jealous when i looked at his used RAM, less than 200MB and mine was using 500MB both stock:mad::D

Powered by *NeatROM JB Lite*
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
I tried xwla4 gb rom, it's not better then latest 404 ics. Scores in Benchs was the same, battery the same, bloatware the same, minus a lot of options that exist in ics.

I'll stick with ics 404 xwlq3.
[Galaxy S II General] 00raq00:
After 6h, always 3G on and sync on & few calls I've still 95% :)

It's good for me. I've modem xxlq6.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

New best result for battery life and deepsleep ratio in night use.

NeatROM XXLSJ (wifi off, FD disabled, no Skype): Battery loss of 0,58% per hour, Awake: 2,2%

Maybe I have to test it with (new) Skype (app) on so that can be better compared with the other battery test results.
[Galaxy S II General] bobdoblo:
Fantastic result!

Another user got this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34830635 last night!

Powered by NeatROM
[Galaxy S II General] Vihru:
NeatROM Lite XXLSJ over night with stock battery.

Attention: i have freezed/deleted many apps and turn autorun off with autorun manager pro.

Wi-fi off, mobiledata off.. but no aeroplane mode.

Total State time: 8h 58min, Juice lost 1%.

Deep Sleep Ratio: 99,2%

and here is my BetterBatteryStats dump file
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

Significantly worse battery life with (new) Skype (app) running during the night.

NeatROM XXLSJ (wifi off, FD disabled, new Skype): Battery loss of 1,07% per hour, Awake: 9,8%

So Skype leads to about the double battery consumption during the night on my phone.

My personal conclusion: I will disable/close/exit Skype every night from now on. The current is too expensive to "feed" Skype that much IMO.
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0:

With (new) Skype (app) running all the time, mixed usage is slighly worse than with wifi on all the time but Skype off.

NeatROM XXLSJ (FD disabled, new Skype): Battery loss of 2,10% per hour, Wifi: 100%, Awake: 20,4%, Screen: 10,3% => loss*(1-screen): 1,88%

So Skype and wifi seem to be the biggest battery drainers on my phone.

Will try again to install old Skype app to check its influence on battery life.

EDIT:

Added some screenshots to this and my last battery test results.