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[HTC Rezound] EtherBoo:
Development is fine. AOSP/AOKP will be here soon, Official CM9 is dependent if we get some to maintain the device. The RIL has been completed and is fully functional; the problem is the kernel right now which is being worked on by some very smart people.

All the development that can be done with a Sense based ROM has really already been done. The existing ROMs have been as "de-Sensed" as they can be at this point. AOSP is really the last step. There will be some re-modding once the official OTA has been released, but with nothing new around the corner, there isn't much you can do but relax and sit back.

Unless you go G-Nex, there isn't going to be much more active development on any other VZW device.

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<begin rant>

In all honesty, all the trolls and "helpfuls" have run the devs out of town here, which is why you don't hear from them. Here's a post from a developer who used to post here from another forum:

This is from one of the developers working on AOSP. Take a guess at who it is. Look at the Unofficial CM9 Nightlies thread if you need to see why. People posting their entire history of phones and crap because a developer talked about his previous phones. YZ had to close the thread several times. Basically, the devs were driven away to boards that are not as well known because they can be moderated easier and don't get so many noobs demanding updates.

I've read several posts from people here who "get it". They understand that the devs do this for free and to take what you can and lurk when you don't have anything of value to add. Others think the dev boards are open discussions and they can ask for status updates and why they aren't working on our device blah blah blah.

</rant over because I'm too far off topic>

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[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Just to be clear, none of my thoughts are negative towards Devs. It is more of a concern that HTC and VZW are taking so much longer than we originally imagined to get ICS out the door, that I hope that by the time they do, the Devs haven't moved on to newer and better phones, that's all.

We won't see the OTA before July or August. By the time it starts rolling, I am guessing that Android 5 will be about to be released by Google.

That is the one thing that makes me regret getting the Rezound. The manufacturers and the carriers seem determined to keep most phones almost a year behind the OS. ICS was released back in October or November? It's now almost June, and we have leaks but no actual OS yet, and won't for a couple months.

And when we do, it will be bloated and buggy and needing to be fixed and the next version of Android will be hitting the street.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
While I get what you are saying and I agree a LOT, there seems to be a lot of rivalry among Dev's here too and that doesn't help matters either. Point being, I think there is a lot of blame all around here.
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
I heard that Jelly Bean will be 4.1, not 5.0. But yeah you are pretty much right on it taking along time.
[HTC Rezound] DertyDOH:
I've been disappointed by the development on the Rezound, mostly because of unrealistic expectations, I had the Evo 4G before, and there were tons of roms, now theres only sense, we ran the AOKP guy off so who knows if we'll ever see that, MIUI is finally here in its early stages, but all the sense roms seem the same
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
If you guys keep talking about phones, I'm going to take my trolling to the Dev section! :rolleyes:
[HTC Rezound] luis86dr:
You think this is bad? Take a look at the Droid Charge section. This community is perfect as is.

Sent from my Htc Rezound

Follow me on twitter @lmrtech
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Perhaps thats what you thought, but I've been saying it would be May at the very earliest all along, so June/July fits right in with my original figures. Anyways, nobody is running away because of the weight... If anything, the sensible people are running away because everybody else if freaking out over ICS and/or AOSP and driving them nuts. LOL:eek:
[HTC Rezound] mefloump:
+1 on that! Once the Gnex came out almost everyone bailed. Dwitherell and Imnuts are about the only ones left and Jt is still working on CM9 but with out ril, well you know how that goes.
[HTC Rezound] tcbj:
Devs are doing just fine IMHO

My DINC 1 was the best phone I had. Developers were great. Followed up with a Samsung Fascinate. That was a complete mess.

I rooted my Xoom with EOS ICS last month. FANTASTIC.

I just rooted my Rezound last week with S-Off.

Running Clean Rom DE, Red Alert mod. Made my own red icons for Apex.

Jailbroke my Iphone 4 and forward my calls and text to my Rez.(Iphones r boring)

I think I need to go see a doctor.

It's been hard since Friday.:D
[HTC Rezound] blackhand1001:
The omap is much faster than the s3. S3 is cortex a8 while the omap is a9.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Much faster? Not quite. They're equal at most.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Actually S3 is kinda like a "Cortex 8.5"

Its based off A8, but also contains some features from A9 and some enhancements from Qualcomm that aren't part of ARMs architecture for Cortex A8.
[HTC Rezound] blackhand1001:
Here's quadrant ran on my nexus at the stock 1.2 clock speed. I don't where there retarded baseline number comes from though. Look at the CPU score. My dads rezound only musters 2000 something on that same part.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Run Antutu. Quandrant is known to provide the most variable results of the benchmarking apps. Compare to the Galaxy Note (A9) and the Galaxy Nexus (A9) which are the two other chart toppers in Antutu. Mine beats them both when at stock speeds when running ICS.
[HTC Rezound] blackhand1001:
What score do you get.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
My best result was over 6700, but this one I just did isn't too bad either!
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
D'oh! Defeated!

...for now....
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
OK so tweaking on it a bit, and this is my latest best result with my Rezound. Not so far behind anymore ;)
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
That's about the highest I ever could get.
[HTC Rezound] brycekerr:
Oh yeah?...well...I have an 8 mp camera :mad:

Sent from my RezAwesome S-Off running Scott's CleanROM 4.5
[HTC Rezound] blackhand1001:
I'll just have to over clock then. This thing clocks past 1.6 no problem. TI actually says it runs 1.5 stock. Samsung underclocked it.

Well you got me there lol.
[HTC Rezound] brycekerr:
Actually, according to your screenshot the gnex has a 500 mp camera :eek:

Sent from my RezAwesome S-Off running Scott's CleanROM 4.5
[HTC Rezound] liquid4life:
Im a little late to this thread, but im 40 and have to say I can work this platform that is android just with no problems I read about on a regular basis here. Coming from og, im completely satisified with this device. U dam whippersnappers :D
[HTC Rezound] xdadevnube:
Eek, I suppose I couldn't list any age and still be safe from some of the folks on here. :o

Its comforting to know that people of all ages (one XDA'er said he was 65) are part of the community around here. I plan on being a phone enthusiast for many years to come. Smartphones are still pretty new technology and I think there is a ton of potential and room for growth.
[HTC Rezound] agentofchaos:
hey guys, just remember that the Eris forums are still active and the ERIS (2009 mind you) has an updated somewhat frequently ICS rom now. be patient :D
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
There is a lot of activity for the Inc too.

A lot of these devs are dealing with finals, or working on more than one device, so they have to alternate.

Gotta respect them for that though.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Quality over quantity :)
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
That's not exactly the only reason he was asked to remove tweaks...by the way newt has also used the whole "to many similar roms" excuse on me so that's kind of hypocritical...bored is busy with life...and I am too...Scott is a whole diff story lol
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
We always got something being worked on :)
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
As far as I know the RIL has been worked out. Its the kernel having issues. I know that dmeadows asked chad to loook at the pmem issues that were causing constant reboots. You all should chat up dmeadows. Really nice guy.
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Yes but I've been hearing of this project for a minute. I'm dying to know what It's all about. I ran eris's rom until I finally made the switch to ics. It was strable,great on battery and everything worked.
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Scott jumped over to ATT and has been MIA here since :D

Kinda like with the 3VO...
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
i has no idea wht ur talking abt..seriously lol i dont..wered u hear abt it?
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Why tank you :cool:
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
The brown nosing was just a side post. My main point can be read before that brown nosing comment.

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
You will never hear me cry about this. I may throw a party. Just sayin

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
am i invited? ill bring the roms :P
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Let's not kill this thread with Scott talk... #JustSayin. And I get to come to this party, right? :D
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
Yep, password is. Scottsanapkdeleter.

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Ok ok lets stop now lol...
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Over on the bamf site. Charles keeps throwing hints about something being worked on...
[HTC Rezound] username235:
...lol...

To be honest, it would be pretty bad ass to have a rom like the Evo Classic rom. Just have the one nice, tweaked up rom, and tons of community mods and themes for it....I would love that for the Rezound.

Sent from my Sense 4 Rezound
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
IMO, The Developers bickering about each other and publically talking trash about each other is far worse for the community than the cry baby, whiny, demanding users.
[HTC Rezound] blackhand1001:
Seriously . I have been wanting to get a good aosp build for my dad and this is really discouraging people from even touching this device. I have built my own builds of cm9 for myself in my nexus but the rezound seems a lot more complicated.
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
The way I see it is this, does Scott only delete APKs and install tweaks? Who cares?

The ROM I use now is exactly that. I took the latest leak, deleted the bloat, replaced the notifications with who_mike_d's, and adapted Bored's Blue theme for S4 so that it installs over the stock ROM, and I'm happy with the end result. Everything works and the battery lasts long enough for me to go through the day. It's not optimized but it runs fast enough for me. I wish I could install tweaks but I can't so I just accept that I don't have that extra.

Do I know what it's like to be a ROM developer? Not the slightest bit, but if it is true that all Scott does is delete APKs, why not let it be? If the end result is something people like to use, all the better!

Some people like the very latest stuff at the cost of some glitches, Joel's ROM is perfect for that. Some like stock with a nice theme, Bored's ROM is perfect for that. Some like debloated stock and CleanRom was perfect for those people.

Sure deleting stuff doesn't make you a developer, but that doesn't mean the ROM is garbage. When I hit reply on an email from my boss or accept a meeting, I need to know things worked and because of that, when I heard about problems with the corp email app, that's enough for me to stay away from a ROM.

Yeah Joel and Bored are true developers, their work is amazing, they have a huge fan base, but I don't see anything wrong with a ROM that's a lean version of stock with minimal theme and optimizations.
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
More or less, i was just making fun of him. Hes really a jerk who makes horrible comments about the people who use his rom and arent tech savvy.

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Seeing Newt's thread closed is depressing, this forum is getting crushed by borderline high school kids, ruining it for us all.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Wow, gonna start that again? Didn't you apologize after trying and failing to be an apk deleter?
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
No, that was someone else that called me an APK Deleter and then failed horribly at making a ROM. But yea, look at my Sig block! I got my certification in APK deletion now! You cant delete it better than me! lulz

Anyways...

I am on ATT now with HTC One X.

Gotta run, got more people out there I need to put down for not not being tech savvy!

Peace!
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
I think it is both. We are our own worst enemy, and at least as far as this forum is concerned, the people trashing each other is doing more to hurt the future of Rezound ROMs than HTC and VZW are. Enough already. Almost everyone uses other people's work. One Dev creates something, another Dev learns from that and creates something else, or incorporates that, etc...

Guess what. That is how Android itself was and is created. Every Dev is borrowing from whatever came before, and then adding their spin or tweak to it. Get over it. Worrying about who gets credit, and all that, bickering, fighting and leaving in a huff hurts to community, not the particular person that you are pissed at on that day.

But by all means, keep talking trash, keep making waves, and after 99% of the Devs have left XDA, we can all sit here and harken back to the days when XDA used to have ROMs to play with...
[HTC Rezound] EtherBoo:
Guess I need to Re-ROM now that Scott is done with the Rezound... great.

Honestly, for me, I need bug free and I need everything working.
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
The latest leak is for you my friend!
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
Scott is not a jerk and I'm sure he isn't mean to his users of which many are in this forum. Defining horrible comments? I would think such comments would get Scott banned. If some of you have a problem with him, fine it's a free country but you are in the minority. Scott's CR series has been great since GB but that's JMHO based off the fact that everything works. They are stable and quick roms that once again just work. He also contributed Cleanflash which I bet many of us have used and made things a little easier.

I think it's great to see such variety and creativity on this forum and I've donated to many of the devs here, on the cutting edge and otherwise. I would hope people will just stop this crap and agree to disagree but they may just be too much to ask. Get back to having fun with each other and letting the small stuff remain small and drop bad feelings. I guess I just miss the Evo 4g days with my man Derek (Myn) community rom thread.... It just seems like the mood in this forum has really turned sour which is unfortunate :(

Scott, I hope you know you are appreciated and I wish you luck in your future endeavors. I know you have been helpful to me on many occasions. Take care.
[HTC Rezound] EtherBoo:
Already on the latest leak. I looked at Joelz ROM and it looks like Data Arrows don't work. Pretty important for me because 4G data is really spotty where I live.

EDIT:

I think Protekk is done. Just went to check his twitter, and it looks like it's been deleted. Too bad, Rezound is a great phone. Guess I'll be giving my wife this one and picking up the SGS III.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
So now we have lost Chingy, Newt and Scott? And the Cyanogen guys were pretty fed up as well.

At what point do the kids STFU and let the Devs do what they do without all the whining and pissing matches?
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
Oh for sure it is both, but I think you can expect a certain level of unappreciative, whiny, demanding users. I never expected Dev's to be acting like they are.
[HTC Rezound] chefthomas99:
We haven't lost chingy and newt. Check the Mikmik.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
No, I meant that XDA lost them because a bunch of high school nerds ran them off... LOL
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Whyd Chingy leave? Geez...
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
It seems that XDA is just becoming more and more of a social hangout for Android users than anything else. Many of the good developers have joined up with a team or two, and they post their updates via twitter or goo.im now, or their own team website.

Its just as well though honestly. If developers move away because of the bazillion whiny, impatient forum members breathing down their backs, they'll just become happier and more productive developers without the bother. And those who are patient and know where to look will still find the latest ROMs and progress updates.
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
I am at a point where I am selling my rezound, and moving on. I love HTC devices, but being on Verizon is must. So I think I will be picking up a sg3. I have seen infighting before, especially between a couple of our developers. What I don't get is how the community just stirs the pot. This isn't even a community, it is Highschool made over. I am 35, and don't need to be involved in stuff like this. I don't know where all of this entitlement comes from. These guys work, go to school, and have families. What they give us is a gift. They have fun making roms, and we have fun flashing them. Is this a hard concept? I belong to several different forums here, and have to say that this one is the worst. Egos, and @ssholes. This is not directed at anyone, just me venting. Carry on.....
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
Have you ever stop to think, maybe i know something you dont? Maybe i saw a comment that you didnt? My point is you have no idea what ive have seen him say. So your i understand your ignorance.

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
I see you posted your rezound on the market.
[HTC Rezound] mbarry55:
ProTekk's twitter looks active to me....?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Probably ;) good things come to those who wait
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
I certainly agree that you may know something that I don't. I've also known Scott since he cooked roms for the Diamond in 08. He has been a contributing member of many forums for years including XDA and PPCGeeks etc etc.. I see him doing a lot more good for this community than bad. Like I said if you feel it's appropriate to call him a jerk and poke fun at him that's your prerogative. It's my right as well to state my opinion based on years of experience with the guy. That's all I got to say about it.
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Yep I posted it, for a good price too. I come here to learn, and talk about this stuff with people who "get it". Why guys from the mik go into joels threads, and flame, and why those loyal to Joel flame newt is beyond me. Both guys put out great roms. We all are here because our love of android. I will leave on this note...

A young sparrow decides he is not going to fly south for the winter. A blizzard falls, and he decides he has to try. As he is flying, he freezes in the air, and falls to the ground. He is laying there thinking he is going to die. About this time a cow comes walking past, and takes a crap on him. Laying there, he begins to think that he is warm, and might make it. He feels so good that he pops his head out of the poo, and begins to sing. A cat hears him, and and pulls him out of the poop, and begins to eat him.

The moral of this story is; sometimes the people who crap on you aren't your enemies, sometimes the people who get you out of crap aren't your friends, and if you are happy in a pile of crap, don't say anything.... :p
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
IM not done. Just nothing new to work on. Placing focus on HTC One X right now.

I love this story. Its excellent!
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Glad you are sticking around for awhile. I am still on CR DE 1.4 and have yet to find a better running ROM for this phone. Some others are pretty and have nice features, but none of the ones I have tried actually WORK as well as this one.
[HTC Rezound] mforminio7:
Guys you gotta realize if theres no new leak or OTA, development is gonna be stale. Just hang in there and when the miracle from HTC finallyy arrives development will pick up again.
[HTC Rezound] zone23:
You don't need a new OTA to theme a phone. I've had lots of thoughts of selling my Rezound and going to the iPhone.. Just about had enough..

BTW there is TONS of development for a jailbroken iPhone so don't kid yourself... androids not the only one. As a matter of fact I got CRT animations on my iPad yesterday. Just saying.

Only thing really holding me back is the 3G on the iPhone.
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
I've debated on going to the iPhone 5 when its out just need my 4g

I'm buying a gnex for 200 to get me some aokp so I might stick with that
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Screw apple and all their stupid iCrap.
[HTC Rezound] chefthomas99:
Where
[HTC Rezound] EtherBoo:
O_O

I don't even know what to say. I checked earlier, and twitter basically have me a 404.

I could see other Twitters, but his was not found. Now it's up.

What is this... I don't even...

Great to know. I'm one of those people who appreciates your work.
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
Craigslist, dude needs rent money so I jumped on it
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
umm no. just cause we are young doesnt mean sh!t. its all the 40 yr old butthurt virgins living in their mothers basement that want aosp on their phones.
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Lol true... I didn't run myself off :D

Sent from my Rezound churning Cream
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
it was close there for a minute. you kept asking yourself for eta's :p
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Butthurt virgins? :rolleyes:

Meh. Reading this thread and thinking about some of the silly stuff that's happened on this forum kind of makes me want another phone too... I just hope it won't be the GS3 lol. Any rumors for 4th quater phones this year?
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
I just tried to retweet this... I need to get off twitter lol

Sent from my Rezound churning Cream
[HTC Rezound] blackhand1001:
And then the next update comes out and you have to wait months for a jailbreak
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
there is a tweet button ya know and your rampage calmed down lol
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
It's sad to see that so many people are leaving the rezound I would but I just can't afford a new phone and this phone is good enough for now so thanks to everyone who is helpful and stay romming my friends
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
lets be honest. idk why people would leave. this is CLEARLY the best phone on vzw. unless you like to mod which the nexus is better for but the nexus sux as a real phone and data constantly drops. the galaxy s3 is not worthy of an upgrade imo. just my $0.02.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Yeah I know right? Now if HTC releases a one x/EVO LTE equivalent then I might jump ship but sadly I'm not gonna be able to, because my real upgrade (used my brother's for this) is in around october august