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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sbpetrack:
Either 1. something subtle is missing from your very clear explanation, or 2. I am too stupid to have understood it fully, or 3. there is a mistake in a post elsewhere in xda-dev about what S-off does. I know which of those three possiblities is most likely hahaha, but I'd be very grateful if you could check my understanding, in case it turns out to be #2.

Problem: i have a rooted phone, on which I have a terminal emulator installed; I can start it up, enter the command "su -" and I get a root prompt. But

1. when I enter the command "mount -o remount,rw /system" I get "mount: Permission denied". (Upon inspection, "mount" is a link to toolbox).

2. When I enter the command "busybox mount -o remount,rw /system", the command returns without error -- but /system is STILL read only!!!

3. I hunt around xda-dev and the only post I find that claims to solve this problem asserts that they solved the problem by using (mumble,mumble)'s recovery to set S-OFF "and then I could remount /system read-write with no trouble."

Now I understood from your original post here that having S-ON means changes to NAND don't survive reboot (plus the limitation on flashing unsigned images). But my problem ISN"T that making /system read-write doesn't survive a reboot; my problem is that i can't make it read-write AT ALL. Even weirder (for me), busybox mount thinks it succeeds, but it doesn't.

Could I ask you to confirm or correct the following statement: the state of S-ON or S_OFF is unrelated to my problem, if my problem is that as root, i get Permission denied to "toolbox mount -o remount,rw /system", and "busybox mount -o remount,rw /system" does not work as expected. The state of S-ON/S-OFF might affect whether commands to flash certain partitions will succeed or fail, but it will NOT affect the success or failure of any other command or code. Except for flashing, S-ON/S-OFF **ONLY** affects what happens when the phone reboots.

Apologies if I'm droning on -- I just want to get straight once and for all what S-ON/S-OFF can and can't do for me. HOpefully, someone else might benefit from the clarity also.

[Please note that I'm NOT asking you to solve my problem, that's out of scope here. I'm asking you to check my understanding of S-off. Of course, all suggestions gratefully accepted :))]
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
GREAT explanation, thank you, I am new to HTC coming from many many years of Samsung. I finally gave up on them when my Note 4 died for the 3rd time and moved to HTC last night. This was a very much needed post so thank you!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lajuane:
Great post. It gave me much needed clarity. I do have a question. I'm fairly new to this and I want to purchase an htc 10. Is there an added concern I should have if the phone is S-off? Should that matter when purchasing from a private seller?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] branzy:
thanks a lot. am now clear

at first i was confused on it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] prmbasheer:
Super informative post.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KGraivesOwO:
I dunno man. This is the kind of comments that scare off the new kids. Let em softbrick their things, they'll learn faster. That's how I learned...

they don't need to know about s-off to flash cm on the old-ass galaxy they found in the junk drawer and get hooked.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] nyarlathotep:
Is it true that S-Off is required to flash a ROM that is older than your current ROM ?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
No but it is required to flash an older RUU .

Sent from a Glade Plugin. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] K999rrl:
really want to reset my tablet but i dont wana root it again so would like to make sure. thank you
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knucklehead_11:
You shouldn't loose root. Before I was unlocked I did a factory reset and kept root
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] K999rrl:
So all I need to do is to reinstall superiser?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knucklehead_11:
No.
[Galaxy S III General] sodatoa:
Galaxy S III has a 1.9 megapixel front camera with zero shutter lag and BSI sensor and Galaxy S II has a 2 megapixel but don't include BSI sensor. I'd like to see how different photo between 1.9mp with BSI sensor and 2mp.

Galaxy S III and S II owners, please post photos for comparison. (low light or indoor)

Thank you :)
[Galaxy S III General] nf0rc3r:
looks like SGS3 has superior low light color n quality..
[Galaxy S III General] sodatoa:
thank you ^^

one more for portrait photo, please :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skunk2 DC:
Anyone else considering of peeling it off? Mine is starting to gather dirt around it (purchased the white one) and starting to come off.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DanMc85:
rip it off... information is on the sim card tray if you take it out and look closely... also inside the box your phone came in should be a spare sticker to put back on the phone in case of a warranty claim.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skunk2 DC:
Nice.. I didn't even know there was a spare sticker in the box. Thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] waleed90:
Took mine off the second I saw it was on there.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rayacer:
The day I received the phone I took it off.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cloudraker:
Ahhh, what i find amusing here is this. I had to exchange my one X yesterday, luckily the store i frequent most likes me as they held it for me instead of sending it back when i called last week. Anyways, the salesman processing the exchange is the only person i deal with when i go in there so we joke around and he started the exchange and said you really couldnt just leave that sticker on there could you? So, i told him that there was an extra one in the box so that it could be removed and he nor any of the other staff members there even knew the extra sticker existed.

Anyways, yes, remove that unsightly sticker as it wont hurt anything.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RiPpeR_dUdE:
Gone the moment I got the phone in my hands.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] fitchpuckman:
removed mine before leaving the store. it's in a few places on the phone, including HBoot (pwr+vol down on startup).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] veliksam:
I'm glad it's a sticker and not etched into the phone like apple does with all those informative trademark signs. Yeah, we have those to but they are barely visible on the bottom of the phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nasseem:
I took it off before I opened the box hahaha in my mind
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skunk2 DC:
Yea.. I knew all the info was in the phone. But wasn't sure if it'll leave an ugly mark. Its off now :D looks way cleaner.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
The same info also displayed in Hboot, with the bar codes and everything.

The stick left a faint mark or residue. But wiping with a little glass cleaner took that right off.
[HTC EVO 3D] Big_Den:
Vellamo is a benchmark application which tests your internet browsing performance.

Running Virtuous Eclipse v1.0.0 on a GSM Evo 3D

Score:1403

Link to app;

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quicinc.vellamo&hl=en
[HTC EVO 3D] stkiswr:
Would you accept RAZR maxx scores since I like benchmarks and checking out other phones?
[HTC EVO 3D] Big_Den:
Why not, go for it bro.
[HTC EVO 3D] stkiswr:
K. I ran it with the tutorial running and just once. Maybe it will be better if I turn it off and run it on 4g I dunno.

RAZR maxx ics 404 leak 206

I prob try another run but phone has been up for 16 hours and 5 hrs on so maybe it has a lot built up. Either way no more excuses lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
HTC evo 3D CDMA, 1.18GHz (NOT overclocked), ICS, Sense 4.0 (newtoroots RC3 sense 4.0 rom)

Custom Kernel by Chad

internet connection - wifi, AT&T basic dsl @ time of test (3.0 down, .768 up)

over 9 hours uptime on battery, so prolly a lot of services/apps running in the background. and it is clear google talk was even running...
[HTC EVO 3D] Big_Den:
I was getting just over a 1000 but this rom I got running really is the ish. I also get 3092 in quadrant now, so cant complain. Like you said no excuses, you're not repping the razr forums to well :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Big_Den:
Im on stock too, cant wait to see what these overclocked kernels bring
[HTC EVO 3D] stkiswr:
Damn. You are right lol. Well at least I have 5 hrs screen on time and 23 % left :beer:

ran it again...same thing

just for fun.
[HTC EVO 3D] mike.r.olson:
Running d3rp bareback on the stock kernel.

Shot From My HTC Shooter In The 3rd Dimension Powered By Virgin... FML
[HTC EVO 3D] Big_Den:
Had to be done :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
this benchmark's scores are affected by your internet connection speed, post your connection type speed w/ your screen shots.. gonna update my post now.
[HTC EVO 3D] Big_Den:
Not really, it downloads the test and runs through it, but hey-ho
[HTC EVO 3D] stkiswr:
upload is all crazy tonight
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
i want that!!

the network loading part of the test sounds like network speed tests to me...

but i could be wrong
[HTC EVO 3D] Big_Den:
Then again, look at my speeds, doubt that would increase performance.
[HTC EVO 3D] RulingCzar:
1740 - Bottleneck on internet due to Wifi.
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
1369. first run

dropzeroc ics ROM

not overclocked
[HTC EVO 3D] ljubisat100:
Runing Virtuous Shooter v.3.0.5 [3.28.401.1]Sense 3.6 Android 4.0.3 on GSM Evo 3D

Poslato sa Eviše 3Deiše (PG86300)
[HTC EVO 3D] bla333:
Around 1230
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vocalshock:
Can this debranding work on 1.85.=? I did this on 1.73 and it was great. This is the thread. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26728422#post26728422 Thanks.:D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] niceppl:
yes... but i recommend you get cleanrom 2.2 then follow the txt file to delete bloats....no need to use the zip file, since it's based on 1.73
[General Questions and Answers] Monzer_:
Hi there , im trying to use Tasks that comes with the Stock 2.3.4 in my atrix (Tasks 1.0 ) and i though it would sync with my Gmail any idea if it would do that or how to ?

thanks for your time.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BloatedDuck404:
im only getting 1X on my epic Miui build. 4G works but 3G doesnt when i go on the internet it just loads 1X instead of 3G. Anyone else having this issue
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
Try another ROM or odin to stock to see if it is the ROM or Sprint.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BloatedDuck404:
Well when I went to prl update by booting FC09 I got 3G updated prl went back to MIUI and still 1X :mad:

So then sadly back to AOKP thanks man. :( I love MIUI

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonarchist:
This is a known issue (upstream) so whenever you see '3G/1x' this means that MIUI is getting 3G, it's just not apparent --yet DL'ing a 9mb app from the Play Store in 20 seconds, you are aware that it's likely running at 3G speed.........even better w/ 4G! lol. ;) ........try again + run some DL tests: be sure to check md5sum to make sure you've DL'd a good zip, clean install + miui.gapps, you should be fine.

sent via today's Android 4.0.4
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevie13.xo:
I have the same problem.. it showing only 1x downloading.. but its abnormally fast so I'm assuming its 3g
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shinydude100:
Yeah, its been covered as upstream issue, as the others have stated, when you try downloading you should notice super fast "1x" which is in reality just 3G not showing up on your notification bar. :p
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xboxfanj:
Yeah its a weird bug which is happening on all non nexus cdma Samsung devices.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BloatedDuck404:
Wow um then I'm gonna re download miui again and try again knowing this imma do some download test and see how fast it is. Since I'm back on AOKP I'm gonna download Temple run (25MB) on 3G on both AOKP and MIUI and see if there is a difference. Thanks guys wish I saw what you guys posted before I restored my AOKP Backup.

Sent from my SPH-D700 On AOKP dressed like Touchwiz 4
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystifiyer:
Anyone noticed that S3 when used with a black wallpaper, its not totally black? Seems that the backlight is still on for blacks compared to S2 which is totally black.

S3 seems kinda grey with black...almost LCD like kinda black.

Do have a try in a dark room. I was surprised. Maybe you too
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NZtechfreak:
Will be interested to try this, that slightly greyish hue to blacks was one of the things I disliked about the Nexus screen.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
....

I'll be happy with my screen...because it is beautiful and big.... sorry you guys need to find every reason to b*tch about an amazing phone ... I don't examine my phones screen while it shows complete white or black screens in the dark ... I use it and watch people marvel at it.

No one ever says to me, "that has a yellow tint to it from here"

Why do u guys constantly find things wrong with phones.. at this rate you'll never be happy.

Keep it Classy, Cali.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegregulator:
It's called being critical. There are a number of things I dislike about my One X. No phone is perfect and if we're not critical and express our dislikes, chances are HTC/Samsung may not fix them with software updates/newer models.

I'm more interested in the potential black clipping issues like on the Galaxy Note. That was unacceptable.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
Hmm. Interesting. Thanks for putting it into perspective!

Keep it Classy, Cali.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] americasteam:
Amoleds don't have a backlight. Has Samsung toned down the black levels to alleviate black crush and clipping issues?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g4rvd4:
Can you try the different display modes and see if it changes?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baldilocks:
The true test is to turn off the lights and pull up your contact list. The background should be as black as night. If it is, then your wallpaper isn't really black -- find a better one. ;)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystifiyer:
same wallpaper dude. in fact, that is a transparent png. side by side comparison is that there is some sort of backlight in s3. s2 is completely black. Like I previously mentioned, its in a dark room.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystifiyer:
can only test it after im home tonight.

just checking if anyone have the same experience.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gnarfsan:
Both my galaxy s and my s 2 never goes completely black if I watch them in complete darkness. Even when the phone is shutting down and doesn't display anything at all. And strangely enough they emit around the same brightness level. As the phones turn of completely, the hue disappears. Even black areas are being powered and I think it's by design. Or maybe slight component variations.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laum:
My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.

Anyone else has this?

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emahmood87:
Yup that's the same issue which seemingly all amoled displays have such as sgs2, nexus, note...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] varun124:
Been using the phone for a week, haven't seen this yet.

I find the blacks to be amazing, better than any phone I have every seen honestly
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laum:
Ok, thanks for that. My screen is most probably broken then although emahmood87 said that it could be a "feature".

I think that black level is not that great in SGS3 when used in dark room. TBH SGS1 had better blacks.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystifiyer:
Hmm, thats +1 to my claim. Had S1 also. No problem with blacks. TBH, you cant really tell when there is light for normal usage. Just that when watch video, you notice gray instead of the usual expected black.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emahmood87:
Do the following and u will see the blotches or black ink drops.

I posted this on the sgs 3 in pakistan thread and one person confirmed the issue :

"Download Paint Pro its free and open a black background which covers whole the screen and then go in a dark room.... Can u tell me if there are any black blotches on screen example the screen will be in two tones of black or is it perfect black... this was an issue with two sgs2 which i had and also with galaxy nexus... The resaon its an issue because when u r browsing the web say late at night with screen filter enabled u can actually see the black blotches...."

Secondly the issue was only in sgs 2, note and galaxy nexus...have owned all these mobile.. its not really a big issue just was annoying sometimes... sgs 1 had no such issue
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laum:
Yeah, I have only been using SGS1 so I haven't witnessed any of those "new" problems. I still might try to exchange this unit to a new one.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DangKid:
I have this issue on my infuse. Most of them are about 1mm in diameter but the largest one is about 1cm in diameter. I contacted Samsung and they are going to take a look at it.

Sent from my Samsung Infuse running AOKP.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zanr Zij:
Black Level? For what? GSMArena said that = 0. My S3 black display is fine but not perfect :). Can not be perfect. Super Amoled = best black display.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laum:
GSM-arena talks crap or the black level is measured from turned off screen. Black level must be around 0.05-0.1 cd/m2, which isn't

that

great. ANSI contrast is the greatest thing in SAMOLED screens.

Too bad that Samsung really messed up all the screen profiles. None of them looks good. Every one has too much sharpening and colors are way off. Standard gives too much saturation and Natural too low.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baldilocks:
Is everyone running the same firmware? Maybe it's software related.

Sent from my Galaxy S II
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystifiyer:
i do have instances where different roms on s2 having different colour temperatures. hopefully this is one such instance in s3.

now i wonder if its designed to work in this manner or otherwise
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueseeker:
Pics or didn't happen ;). In S2 earlier days the general forum was flooded with these kind of threads. We want to see pictures to judge for ourself :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baldilocks:
I know for myself it happened. When I went from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 on my GS II, it messed the colors and screen up pretty bad. Had to downgrade until 2.3.5 came out.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kultus:
black ink drops

I saw those black ink drops on my i8910 and SGS2 too...so its normal for all AMOLED displays!!!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jasbur17:
When I first got the Galaxy Nexus, I put it next to the GS2 with pure black on the screens. The Nexus looked like it had a backlight. I know it doesn't, but next to the GS2 looked like it did. I hope they fixed that in GS3.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 6thEnvy:
I also have these black ink drops on my S3.. at the end of a video.. were the screen is supposes to be jet black.. it was more dark dark grey.. downloaded a black as black wallpaper.. notice the ink straight away.. coming from an LCD.. kinda annoying.

Looks like it's an AMOLED thing though.. few people with the "feature"
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falluja:
Its normal with the black blotch/streaks on the screen with black background. Hits visible in a dark room
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholasyjk:
Ink like spots on black background

Noticed the ink-like spots as well on my S3. Should i ignore it or ask for a replacement from the retailer? I bought it from carphone warehouse.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laum:
Looks the same as mine. I could exchange my unit to a new one tomorrow, but if the new one looks exactly like that I don't really see the point. This new unit might be manufactured like a week or two later so there could be improvement, but I can't really hold my hopes up.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholasyjk:
Where did u get yours from?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baldilocks:
I know I wouldn't accept one like that. I haven't seen anything like that since the old broken black LCD days on calculators.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plexicle:
Absolutely get a replacement.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholasyjk:
Im going to return this tomorrow. Hopefully they will give me a replacement. Need to figure out how to explain or show them the evidence of this as the shops are bright.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] georaldc:
I think all OLED devices suffer from this problem, with some being not so bad/noticeable to some looking really disastrous (I'm looking at you vita)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jasbur17:
I have this on the galaxy nexus, though I didn't have a large spot like you.

If you look at that forum, you'll see it is quite common.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholasyjk:
I have it on my note but not as large as the ones in s3. Im happy to accept another unit as long as the spots are not obvious.

---------- Post added at 02:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:24 AM ----------

Same thing in my galaxy note, but not as obvious as this. I would be more than happy if they give me a replacement tomorrow. Hope its a better unit.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clandestino123:
I think that this is exactly what Samsung has done.

Go to the galaxy note general forum and look for the "black rendering" thread. There is a significant problem with the way that the galaxy note displays very dark images. There is a way that the problem can be hidden, by increasing the screen brightness and changing contrast... but in doing so, you aren't fixing the problem you are simply losing the deep blacks that the amoled screen is famous for, in the first place !

I'm guessing that the SGSIII and the SGNote have identical problems in this department, but Samsung has chosen to "hide" the problem by preventing users from seeing true black on the SGSIII.... :(
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laum:
An operator from Finland.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] proudixz:
i have those dots and ink on my SG2 screen aswell , you can see it only in dark , but everything works perfect.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laum:
For me the biggest question is that will I find a spotless SGS3, if I exchange my unit to a new one.

This black spot issue is a problem that should not in any case be a feature in a phone in this price group. Too bad that there's really no alternatives to buy if one does not like the one x.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholasyjk:
I just got my replacement, just minimal small dots present. You can see the picture i posted, that was the spots before my replacement.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kultus:
WOW:confused: thats horrible I talked about not as visible ink dots...I talked about black ink drops slightly visible in total darkness!!! Definitely replace!!!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xiadz:
I believe that it doesn't look good....

It looks like bad/ dead pixels to me.

I checked it with my SGS1 and I don't see such "features"

I will go for an exchange on grounds that amount of dead pixels on screen is too big for a new device.

Just to be on the safe side

could you try to check it with other collors?

red green, blue?

then we will know for sure ar they bed pixels or just something wrong with thechnology

???

regards