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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Well, I did say most.. or majority..

Acer, Toshiba devices are on 4.04 I believe...

Those getting ICS upgrade is on 4.04 and etc....

Many have moved on to 4.04... but yea, moving to 4.04 won't solve anything... but I still prefer it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bballer71418:
So basically, we are waiting for an update that won't fix the problems we all have? Can they please just come out and say that it is a hardware problem? Why would it take them this long for still crappy software. You worked with google, release stock android, with jellybean, the way google taught u please
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Shinare:
it can't be a hardware problem if u can unlock, void ur warranty, load a proper ROM and fix all ur problems as has been reported many times. I just find it repulsive that I need to do that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
Don't believe all the hype. While loading a custom rom is much better, I still have screen tearing issues and ANRs (which don't bother me as much). I haven't tried AOKP or CM9 though, maybe those are better but I don't feel like doing a complete wipe.

I am happy with the custom rom though. It is great. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] anoneemooz:
Screen tearing very much present still even on the latest AOKP..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ill1:
I agree with this. This info should be given out by someone from Asus on an official website. Something we can go back and confirm when issues come up.

XDA should be considered info gained "in addition to" not INSTEAD OF official Asus info. How can I confirm any info on this site pertaining as yet released Prime updates to be true and accurate?

Info I hear second hand on a non official website although helpful I take with a grain of salt, I don't care who it comes from. If that makes me a troll then so be it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jordanmw:
Thanks for the update demandarin, frustrating that it is coming from you and not Gary. I know I cant speak for everyone here but we appreciate the information that you can provide and it is always obvious that you are trying to do nothing more than help everyone here in the forums.

Don't feel bad about taking anything that Asus gives you, you are helping them out big time. I have gotten a few things thrown my way over the years after getting some new bios updates ironed out for them. People will try to get mad at you about being a fan, but Asus will take care of you for your loyalty.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
" People will try to get mad at you about being a fan, but Asus will take care of you for your loyalty."

Ceasefire

Lightside -1

Darkside 0

Everyones happy for the info my friend, and we all can appreciate it, now that we have some, .....wait

Lightside -1

Darkside -1

There, were even

Ceasefire, ce vu ple :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rcca:
2 Thumbs up for you demandarin, no complaints here. Thanks for all your affords of work and testing.

Hope and pray that Gary will pull through, sorry to hear that is not feeling good.

rcca
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sunrise71:
I have these reboot issues when I stream television shows. Unfortunately, this is one of the main reasons I bought my tablet. My wifi says it connects at a very low speed which I know is one of the issues with the Prime. Could that have anything to do with my reboots?

I'm still within my 30 days and really hoping an update comes soon!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dabels1961:
thanks for the update, was thinking there were still some issues with it and that was why it was taking so long, waited on the dongle (did not even hit up support or anything just knew it would come eventually) and it did, so I know the update will come when it is ready.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] OttoDeFe:
Thanks for the update - I was wondering if Asus is looking at some of the changes in the custom build.prop that you had shared on the development forum? It seems as tho it has alleviated some issues as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
I'll see if I can get any issues to arise when using YouTube.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bballer71418:
Any news on kernel version? The 3.0 series offers pretty big power consumption benefits.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
Just an update, I just spent like half an hour in the YouTube app watching videos, scrolling around, junk like that. No issues or anything ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
thanks for the update. now lets wait :-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
well, i don't want to spoil it, but that was me :D

i really didn't mean to do anything bad, i just wanted to get some pressure off of demandarins shoulders :)

who btw was awesome again bringing us the good news!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clintonroche:
Thanks for the info you provided.... DEATH BY DONGLE!!! LMAO!!!

:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] richardmkovach:
Try this. Open a youtube video, make it full screen and pause it. Let your screen go to sleep and fully lock. Turn you screen back on and continue the video. Maybe skip around a bit too.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
I'll give that a shot in a few minutes and report back!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
I generally use mxplayer to play videos.

The author has since fixed it, but before he did, if I put my prime to sleep (quick press of the power button) while mxplayer was open, shortly after I powered it back on and resumed play it would cause a hard reboot.

I discovered that hitting the home button before putting it to sleep got around this.

But like I said, it's been fixed, so it's something the app was doing possibly (it's avoidable from a s/w perspective at least).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
@SteveG12543

If your taking request and you dont mind, assuming you have time, can you try some of these

Playstore lag issue

- Download an app from the playstore (make it a large sized app, if possible), once it starts installing the app, browse through your installed apps,

Going in and out of my installed apps always lags when somethings being installed by the playstore, well at least for me, i believe the entire prime lags

BT/Wifi issues

Again, if possible, could you check whether your able to watch youtube videos while streaming the sound over bluetooth, assuming you have a bluetooth headset/speaker.

Personally, my prime seems to do ok at the beggining but after a while, the youtube video starts to lag and eventually stops entirely, an issue that does not occur when im not streaming to my portable bluetooth speaker

Thanks for the info so far, very welcomed
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
Alright, I tried out the YouTube thing, I didn't notice any issues. I even skipped around like ten times, just to check.

I tested out the install app thing with Osmos HD (17MB), and when it started installing I went through my installed apps list opening random apps market pages. After about three, it didn't bring up a list of apps the "My Apps" page, just "Loading" with the spinning wheel. The wheel didn't seem jittery, and when I hit the home button my live wallpapers FPS didn't seem to drop noticeably. For some reason it just didn't want to load the "My Apps" contents until after it was done. I'll play around with it a bit more to see if it keeps doing that, or if it was just a fluke.

As for BT+WIFI, I tested that by sending a 33MB .flac file from my TFP to my Rezound, as I don't have BT headphones or speakers. The speed test on my TFP before the test was 14.93mbps down and 13.42mbps up, a typical result. While sending I got about 4.75mbps down and about 6mbps up on average. To be honest, I never noticed this problem before (as I rarely use bluetooth), so I don't know if this is an improvement over the .21/.25 builds or not for my tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
Ummm...of course it's going to be slow and have issues with displaying the installed apps while installing an app...it's busy installing an app! Is this really a problem?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
Its a problem, when a lowered spec device does a better job then our "quad core" tablet, either our tabs are incapable, or there is a resolvable issue, im hoping for the latter

Edit - In respects to the playstore lag and general multi-tasking
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] everalm:
@demandarin

Quick question, does the update you are testing fix the broken (in .21) VPN issue? I have a selection of business users who like Android, don't like IPad's but without a working VPN connection to securely connect to corporate data I simply can't roll out Primes.

txs
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Pat1981:
Any news if wifi fallout is fixed in next rls?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slybarman:
I was wondering this as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I sent the link to my modded Build.prop thread and info about it to Gary not an hour or so ago. so I'm just waiting to hear feedback on it. I mentioned to pass it on to Asus software engineers to take a look at it and see if its something they'd like to implement in an update.

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unsure but I can try to find out for you. did you make a thread on this? if so, link me to it so I can forward the info & specifics on it.

possibly. I don't have BT headphones, as I don't use them, to test this out. but I've tested the dropout before transferring files from my atrix, through BT, to my prime(while its connected to my high speed wireless network). I tested wifi connection speeds before and never noticed a significant dropoff while BT file(a large movie file) was transferring to my prime. I will test it again though. some more details in next post.

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Here are some juicy details on part of what included in new .28 build I'm testing.

- New/Improved ANR code

-new stock browser build,

-updated Wi-Fi firmware

-updated BT firmware

-updated Touchpad firmware

-battery life enhancements (previous build with this code hit about 12 days in standby)

-general cleanup in the kernel for memory allocation pages....

and I'm guessing along with the other stuff the previous test build, .25(I believe) brought. Like thread priority changes & addressing gaming issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tmeader:
Sounds great :) So, it's still on the 2.6.x kernel though it sounds like? Weird... every other ICS device I've seen is 3.x based at this point.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
Cheers fellas for taking out time to check these things for us, it feels like i already have the update :)

Edit : Im also wondering about the kernel version?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stinebd:
The touchpad firmware could be an interesting surprise for dock users who've had issues with taps while typing. Hopefully the upgrade includes better palm detection.

Thanks for the scoop on the test builds. This info is pretty much what everybody has been begging for, so hopefully the whining will be toned down for a while.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Yes, its still 2.6 based kernel. Ill attach screenshot of build info shortly to this post. Remember though, once Asus releases, there could be changes even to this build. Always that possibility, so just putting it out there.

edit: I attached the build info screenshot. I will also be testing stock browser in its entirety. Meaning, since I'm not rooted anymore, I can't use my adaway to block ads. so all ads & everything will load up fully. I will also put flash to always ON. As i know alot have been curious to its performance with all of these things on. If there's a website you know that usually caused you issues, link me to them and I will test it out on stock browser.

So far everything seeming good but too early to pass judgement on it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
Unlikely, hope im wrong though

I dont see them adding something like the kernel at the last minute, too many possible bugs i'd assume, cant just slap one on

Its unlikely they would have missed the opportunity to test a new kernel with prime users, and just assume there'd be no bugs,........... actually, maybe, if they've done their own internal testing and are confident they have a stable kernel......... yeah i guess it could be possible.

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http://www.rtp.pt/play/

Yes please mate, could you test out this site out, its basically portuguess version of bbc's iplayer

Never could get the videos to play, the link should take you straight to the player, so you just have to wait for it to load, could you confirm if it plays or not please

Works on my budget arnova tablet, but not my prime, ive not ruled out that it might be a flash player issue though

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I have a dock also so ill test that out.

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it took me a moment to navigate through that sight as i don't know Portuguese..lol

The page loaded up just fine. Then I pressed TV category. Then I chose a video. It played fine on stock browser. No problems playing it. I'm sure it would be even better on opera mobile but I only tested it on stock browser. Hope that helps ;) I even put it on fullscreen and it still played fine.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Can you test these sites, they're loaded with heavy javascript, pics and flash vids.

http://www.androidpolice.com/

http://www.androidcentral.com/

http://gonintendo.com/

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2012/05/olympics_2012_carrying_the_fla.html
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
I just gave it a shot, couldn't get anything to play. It had the loading wheel, did a countdown on the bottom of the video player, then stayed on a black screen. I tried a few things on there under on demand (no idea which ones, I don't know Portuguese lol). No video :(

EDIT: That was on ICS Browser+, forgot to use the stock browser. I'll go ahead and test it out now with the stock one and check to make sure my results line up with Demandarins.

EDIT2: There we go, I clicked on TV, selected something random, and it played no problem! Sorry about the initial no-go I posted. :o
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
new wifi

Demandarin,

looks like touch panel/pad firmware is unchanged from .21, I have the same build you are on. GPS, Wifi and Bluetooth were all updated so I'm actually crossing my fingers this helps with wifi/BT fallout when it drops! Kernel has moved from mercury to venus ..would be nice when they get us on the real deal 3.x kernel / and 4.0.4 instead of same IML74K build
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
EDIT

Demandrin

"I just gave it a shot, couldn't get anything to play. It had the loading wheel, did a countdown on the bottom of the video player, then stayed on a black screen. I tried a few things on there under on demand (no idea which ones, I don't know Portuguese lol). No video "

Yeah, same with mine, thanks for testing,

I got a very sneaky suspicion that gingerbreads version of flash player is lil bit more compatible with websites then the ICS version
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Good catch. Didn't get a chance to compare until now. He said touch fw was also updated but we can obviously see its the same version. Maybe they made touch panel changes/improvements elsewhere. Ill let Him know though that the actual version didn't change from .21 to .28. Touch response is good though for stock build. Glad to see everything else updated though. My wifi is holding a stronger signal. Wifi subjective to user environment so i can't say how it'll perform in someone else's network. Its performing well for me though. The real wifi test or improvement will be told once everyone else uses it in their home setup.

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I tested it again based on new info I saw you posted. I went to the link and let page load up. I saw the countdown on initial media box. It went down but nothing started playing. Then I saw the option above it that I can choose to view it in HTML instead(ver Versao HTML). I choose that and it played just fine after that. This is only in stock browser though.

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You trying to put my prime through the ringer huh? Lol. Those sites are loaded with what you said. They all loaded just fine. DESPITE me having over 30 apps updating and installing iin the background. The other day I went in and set all my apps to manual update. SO i figured this would be a good time to test the I/o & lag usually experienced when play store is updating and installing apps. I THINK it has improved. I did bring up my first browser wait message. BUT I'm almost positive its due the constant 30 playstore apps updating and installing in background while I'm browsing web and posting this. I just pressed wait. All those sites still showed just fine. I really like that last site you linked. It has some great pictures on its page. No force closes or crashes yet on browser though. So stock browser is holding up Pretty well despite the abuse I'm putting it through. I'm not use to using stock browser this much. I MISS my baby, which is opera mobile ;) lol. Its sooo much faster n better than stock browser.

It was a success loading all those sites with no issue though. Prime handled it with no problem.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
^ Sorry, I tested those sites earlier, then got distracted by real life lol. All of them loaded just fine. No ANR boxes popped up for me at all so far. Also using the stock browser.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
Edit - Sorry man im getting confused here, didnt realise we had two testers posting until just now, SteveG12543 thanks for trying and then retrying :), but it looks like its not working, as that link i gave goes directly to the live feed, you shouldnt have to click anything apart from the link and then wait for stream to load, and it seems you guys are having the same issue, player loads, but the stream wont start.

Thanks again guys

Edit correctly, dammit

Man i must be getting old, this xda is confusing, meant to post that last edit as an edit to a previous post, didnt mean to inject non usefull info, my bad
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
No problem :) too bad it's not working though :( I wonder why that is. It very well could be the difference between the GB/ICS flash stuffs, like you said.

It's alright, I've quoted myself when meaning to edit too. Happens to the best of us :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jrkart99:
Gary posted a new update. Its getting close
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Laurentwb:
Hello,

The following site does not work : http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/live_timing_popup.html . The site required to be registered.

Not sure it is related to your discussion as it is a problem with Java. However, a fix would be appreciated.

Have a good day.

Laurent
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TechSavvy2:
a

Could be wrong here, but from the many different ics kernels I've tested along with different roms etc, it wouldn't surprise me if they are holding off on 3.x kernel due to stability issues. All the different roms and whatnot all had severe problems when converting over and it was just recently that they seemed to switch. And they don't even all work yet.

Just a thought.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Yes he did. His post mirrors exactly what I've said. So for the ones that was looking for an "Official" post, its there & it literally states what I've said previously about a new build being tested and what is in it ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rytkonen:
Now we are talking business. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
from my selfish personal point of view, my prime is working nicely now (even the intermittent keyboard docking seems to have sorted itself) so I'm in no rush for an update. Yes, a bit laggy at times, but I'd rather it was a 100% tested update rather than risk a regression (since the updates get pushed aggressively and are tricky to stall)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
One thing I'm noticing so far is that battery life is amazing on this build. Even with me having super ips+ on(on lowest setting) and either balanced or performance mode. This is also with me having wifi setting to keep wifi on Always, even during sleep. Standby time is stellar so far. I think they MAY have solved the wifi battery drain issue. In addition to improved wifi performance. I'm pulling stronger signals more consistently. Really impressed with stock browser(remember this is with flash always on,ads & everything), wifi, and battery performance so far. Still need to further test gaming issues. Since I have dock also, ill see how battery performance is with that and the touch quality mentioned by someone else when tapping on screen while docked or something.

Nvidia cleaned up/changed alot of coding with this build so things look promising so far.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
From Gary's post, it sounds like we might have it in a week or so.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
soon would be better to say ;) lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HOFFERN342:
Saw the update from Gary, I am happy that they are giving us an update on how it is going. Good to know that the update is in testing at the moment, and the main fix I am hoping for is the "browser not responding" issue, since it has made it a living hell to surf, and I rather just use my laptop for surfing instead of the tablet now.. which is weird, since the tablet should be the ultimate surfing machine..

It is not an enormous rush, and I want them to take their time to test the update as well as possible. So, if Asus is reading this, take your time and give us a fantastic update. I believe in you ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Chicaned_UK:
Pretty please can you confirm the Android version of the new update please? Is it 4.0.3 or 4.0.4?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
can you please clarify what the word 'soon' exactly means in your vocabulary? :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos101:
Yeah, "soon" does seem to be a "subjective" term around here :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
"or so" gives a significant amount of leeway ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
4.03
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kaixis:
Thanks for all the GOOD NEWS DEMANDARIN!

While browser issues are the most important to me, i would like to know if they included FACE UNLOCK this time. I know it's not so important but it would not harm me if i had it

THANKS AGAIN!:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] LNJ:
3.x kernels have way more benefits than current kernel. Only widespread issue is that each kernel dev is trying to tweak these kernels to the max causing instabilities.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
yeah.. I don't know what stability issues you're referring to but my Galaxy Nexus doesn't have any issues on 3.0.8 kernel ..what comes with 4.0.4 .. no reboots battery life is fine, but from the post in the Infinity thread showing what software it was on it still had the old kernel so I don't see Prime getting 3.0 anytime soon regardless of what excuse you want use for Asus using the old one
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
i forgot all about that. ill check for it when i get off.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] texstar:
Wish we were getting what is rumored to be going on the Google Asus Nexus 7 tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] krispy521:
Haven't we been getting an update "soon" for two months now? On top of fixing the lag issues, it would be nice to see the things that were supposed to work in the last update work....face unlock and direct wifi.

Kinda starting to feel like that horse who just can't get that stupid carrot thats dangling.