yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] badgerdave:
I'm sure someone is going to shoot down on this idea..and probably talk bad to me.:o What if, there were people outside the conference center at the "Big Android BBQ" with signs picketing. Notify the news maybe?

In the beginning I thought HTC was the bomb...even though my HD2 -out of the box- was crap. I learned to root with the help of others from xda and T-mo forum. And I knew that the Amaze was going to be the device that would beat out all other devices...hands down. Then came the bluetooth issue, followed by Wi-Fi problem and then sound quality issues while video recording in elevated noise conditions. I expected there to be problems. But I also believed HTC would allow the dev community resolve them and help others to resolve their problems. HTC really dropped the ball and hurt their customer base and their credibility.

A while back I started an "Online Petition" on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/#!/HtcAmazeOnlinePetition and I have seen people trickle in over time. I know it doesn't really help...but at least I am trying. I want to add this gpl issue to my petition. I just need to figure out a way to dumb it down for the people joining. For them to understand why the gpl source code is so important.

I will help where I can. All you have to do is call on me. I can't lead the charge, because I am limited in my understanding of this issue. But I am a fierce warrior. Just point me in the direction of the fight and use my limited skills.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Our efforts have worked! We finally won! Great job everyone!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1943931
[HTC Amaze 4G] xXchrizhurtyXx:
so what does that mean?
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
great job guys!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Congrats.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jordanishere:
CGS to all amaze owners.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
hell yes, ROMS HERE WE GO
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
More likely kernels here we go

sent from my

NRGized amaze

powered by Faux
[HTC Amaze 4G] yo2boy:
Wooo!

[YOUTUBE]P3ALwKeSEYs[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC Amaze 4G] ijonb:
So I guess that's what he was talking about! Good times!

Btw, HTC has had a pretty strong showing... you definitely know they are there.
[HTC Amaze 4G] anaktos:
reply

hope it works, heard WIFI driver got released that was great news
[HTC Amaze 4G] gorydragon:
I'll participate!
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
You're a tad too late lol. They released the drivers.

Sent From My HTC Amaze 4G via Someone's Room ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/as-s...-different-financial-results-can-htc-survive/

This is what happens when a company doesn't play nice with a Dev community. Karma's a beach:crying:
[HTC Amaze 4G] thatshot:
I was always an HTC fan
[HTC Amaze 4G] eyeswhite:
we should do this for jelly bean
[HTC Amaze 4G] MC_Original:
indeed it might be good to try it out.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
i was bored so i did this lol make a shout or a like to get their ATTENTION :highfive:
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Hah... lol, don't push it guys
[HTC Amaze 4G] ChromeJob:
Got an email last night that there's an update to 2.14.531.30...
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
this looks kinda weird :confused: but true http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3021
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Another response

You guys REALLY need to do the same as I did! BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION!

Read the conversation. Look at my writing style. See how I took the initiative and yet, I was 100% professional?
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
respond with the WiFi source code!!! every device has it besides us >:(, and that code isnt ICS or GB specific so there is no excuse
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Damn it! I accidentally closed the ticket!
[HTC Amaze 4G] broker32:
ಠ_ಠ
[HTC Amaze 4G] 3oudreaux:
I put in my 2 cents.

I really hope this helps put some pep in HTC's step(and mabye in turn we can get some AOSP):rolleyes:
[HTC Amaze 4G] andy55:
most likely, it won't be released. My last and final attempt.:

I know it’s important to be able to use your Amaze to its fullest potential. I’ll be glad to help you, Andy. HTC will release source code in accordance with any applicable open source license terms, i.e. GPL v2.0. Other source codes, which are not required to be disclosed by the open source license terms, unfortunately cannot be disclosed by HTC as they may be proprietary to HTC or its licensor. Any source code information that has not been made public has been customized by HTC, is proprietary, and will likely not be released to the public. All information that we are able to release, at this point, has been released and is available on htcdev.com.

Thanks for getting back to me, Andy. Unfortunately, I do not know exactly what is different with this driver that prohibits us from releasing it to the public, other than the fact that it was customized by us and is proprietary.
[HTC Amaze 4G] macheteZen:
Here HTCdev's reply to my inquiry about ICS source, no real info but regardless:

Dear Dan,

I would be happy to provide you with assistance regarding the kernel source code for the HTC Amaze. I understand how important it is for developers to have the kernel source code for HTC devices.

Dan, HTC Technical Support does not have information regarding when new kernel source codes are uploaded to the HTC Dev website. I recommend to keep checking back on the HTC Dev website for new source codes to be posted. You should be able to locate the latest kernel source codes on the first page of three in the Developer Center, http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/.

There is no ETA as to when the new codes are available. As soon as the kernel source code is ready, it will be posted to the website provided.

HTC will typically publish on http://developer.htc.com or htcdev.com the Kernel open source code

for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to

120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community.

If you ever have any other questions or concerns in the future, always feel free to contact us via e-mail or phone. Our phone support department can be reached at 1-866-449-8358 between the hours of 6 A.M. and 1 A.M. EST, seven days a week.

If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.

To submit another comment, please click here.

Sincerely,

The HTCDev Team
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Tell them 90-120 days is not acceptable for our community. We want it now. Not after the phone is EOL (which it already is) and 30 new phones are out.
[HTC Amaze 4G] andy55:
it doesen't matter anyway, htc won't be releasing the full source, only option is to have someone with the ability to reverse engineer the driver in question.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Then we have to find someone to do it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
Perhaps a capable developer should set up a Kickstarter project to fund the reverse engineering and release of the necessary driver(s)?
[HTC Amaze 4G] texasice:
Well i tried. Got the same email as everyone else 90-120 days for ics kernel source. Mark your calendars lol.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
I wish they were a BBB accredited business. I would've raised hell with them like how I did to PayPal.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Ads8111:
Absolutely love it! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Im not a person who agrees with the whole bounty thread thing but this particular would be a good one. This is the only thing that is holding us up. Seems like this would be the only way. We Have To FIND someone to do it. I suggest we find someone if accomplished I would easily donate 50$

Come on hasoon I know you can find and bring the fit person to take on this challenge.
[HTC Amaze 4G] shekki:
Maybe someone who develops underclocking kernels for other htc devices? Like say faux? I would gladly donate some money in order to get this device running anything other than sense.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jlvlawrence:
I would be more than happy to donate some money to this cause.
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
I sent my email today and will continue to talk to them respectfully. I'm taking technical writing this semester and this will make good practice.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Follow the way I write. I'm a business student so this made good practice for me as well lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] Y2Ne1:
hey hasoon2000 love this thread but best way i found people listen to you me whoever is play

Ding Dong Ditch :rolleyes: With the dogs business in a bag lit on fire ;)

P.s then leave a HATE MAIL :D

works all the time lol

p.s al jokes aside

watch the movie The Network 1976

I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, God damn it! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

The world is a business, Mr. Beale

Watch this movie free and WAKE UP here @ http://www.greektube.org/content/view/127859/2/
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Haha. That doesn't work. We are people dealing with a huge company. They have what we want.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Y2Ne1:
ahhh sounds like the government and us people fighting for liberty SAD it will never happen unless we kill the government But good luck if i need something from them i just Stick em up like the good old cowboy days heeyaaa hahahaha

you should make a facebook page and protest after all those aholes are all linked to one another
[HTC Amaze 4G] anaktos:
I wonder
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
Dear ^^^^^,

Thank you for contacting HTC Technical Support regarding obtaining the TI WLAN source code.

^^^^^, I understand you would like to have certain source codes like the WLAN drivers to the development community. I realize that this information is of great importance to you. The only source code we have available is the full source code available on the HTC Developer website at http://htcdev.com. We do not currently have an option to send individual parts of the source code separately.

Any parts of the kernel source code that are not included in the released source code on the website should be considered propriety and not available for release.

I thank you for sending your email to HTC today, Harry. As always, we are here to answer any technical questions or concerns you may have between 6am to 1am EDST, 7 days a week for your convenience, or by phone at 1-866-449-8358. Feel free to visit us at /www.htc.com/us/support. To ensure that your information is properly accessed, please

If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.

To submit another comment, please click here.

Sincerely,

The HTCDev Team

Any thoughts on what to say next without say BULLSH1T LMAO
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
We have to send them messages directly.

Tell them to stop giving you generic answers. Tell them you want the truth. Make them learn that we are consumers who will purchase a device made by another company due to HTC's crappy policies and the way they deal with customers.
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
I'm glad that I have received an answer from my previous concerns. Unfortunately, the answer I was giving was one of a company who is timid and hides behind laws and rules. If I myself was like that I would have never bought an Android phone. If I never decided to do the things necessary to learn network security I would have never needed one either. I find it hard to believe that HTC won't release the source code of a phone that was release before the Sensation and before the One series and they all have the source code released. What so different about these phones, the One series for T-mobile was modeled after the Amaze? Also with the answer I got, apparently HTC doesn't care that I wouldn't buy another phone from them and would rather buy from another company, why is that? So HTC doesn't want another six hundred dollars? When I had Samsung phones and the developer community needed something they worked around to find the best way to make it happen, not hide like a coward bureaucrat. I'm going to take a leap of faith and hope HTC will release to source codes that will help out the development communities and in the meantime I'm going to buy a phone from a company that cares.

My reply, probably not the best way but I have no coffee and I got three hours of sleep. ROFL I love these types of emails.

EDIT: Thank you for getting back to me.

Harry, I did a search in HTCDEV.com and it shows two files for the kernel source code for the Amaze. One for Telus and one for T-Mobile.

I hope that this information is helpful.

WTFO
[HTC Amaze 4G] tgamble160:
i sent them an email no response back yet though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
The HTC Sensation XL got their kernel source for ICS :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: and they got ICS a week ago :mad::mad::mad:
[HTC Amaze 4G] broker32:
HTC, what matter of fiend have you become?
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Why has the sensation xl received kernel source code for ics 1 week after ice is released for them and amaze has not yet, amaze is newer. Amaze is the best phone out specs wise yet the least supported? Everyone loves sense 4 but hates no sd and no removable battery. The sensation has ports of sense 4 and aosp working because they have full kernel source with WiFi source. The amaze is much better phone but because lack of htc support, development is crippled. Remember quality over quantity. Samsung seems to start understanding that. Maybe you should learn from Apple and Samsung. Please provide kernel with WiFi source so that our development can continue supporting what you won't. Until then I will not buy another htc product and spread the news of how HTC treats their customers.

I sent them this more direct.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
apple doesnt release any source codes :), thats why you dont see an iphone running a custom rom :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] yo2boy:
They do but only some: http://opensource.apple.com/

Anyway, I'm hoping that HTC will release the ICS kernel source since the Amaze has ICS on all carriers now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
thats really only for app development
[HTC Amaze 4G] shekki:
I really think HTC should really listen to their developing customer base like Samsung does. Sony Ericsson, even worked with Team Douche to release CM for the Xperia devices. That's a lot more than HTC has done with any of their devices. HTC sure is making it easy for me to consider purchasing the competition, which happens to support the developing customer base much better than HTC currently is doing with this device.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
I know how you feel....... SAMSUNG GALAXY SIII here I come!
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
People, HTC is REALLY starting to piss me off right now. Every phone is getting ICS source BUT us. Let's actually do something about this. Can we make this a global thing? Probably not. Can we try though? Hell Yeah!

Let us use Twitter and get this hash tag rolling. #ForTheCustomer

Write what you want. Tag @HTC and/or @HTCDev and end it with the HashTag #ForTheCustomer

I'll talk to a portal news writer and see if he can publish an article for us.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
My first tweet.

https://twitter.com/PaliHustlaOD/status/214826050583134208

PM / Tweet devs to join us. You know they have many followers!
[HTC Amaze 4G] shekki:
I've been in contact with one of the HTC reps and about releasing the HTC source code and this is what I've got so far.

Me-

HTC-

Me-

HTC-

I'm still awaiting a response from the correct department. Hopefully this will help to show HTC that they shouldn't just leave us Amaze users hanging and release source code for ALL devices but this one.

Edit: I've also tweeted @htc and @htcdev. I'm not sure how to make one tweet visible like you did hasoon.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
They won't respond. If we can get it trending on twitter, it can cause an uproar to HTC. Lets try that as well. Whatever will work
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
There is no way we could get it trending without 90% of XDA doing it
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Then lets get 90% of XDA to do it
[HTC Amaze 4G] shekki:
I'm going to put something about this into my signature so that whenever I post on xda people will most likely see and hopefully add to our cause.
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
They stopped emailing me back when I started stating the proof that we have mentioned here and pretty much I will not bother with buying a HTC phone again. This is my last until they get their **** together. I will continue to try and pressure them to release what we know should be.

They last response..

Dear Harry A.,

Thank you for getting back to me.

Harry, I am sorry to hear that you think you are being answered by a computer. As I previously stated if you can not find what you are looking for on the htcdev.com website, then this information is proprietary.

In the North America market, due to contractual obligations, there are no direct sales of phones or accessories by HTC to end-users. HTC only sells phones and accessories to end-users through distributors such as Letstalk and BrightStar or through phone Carriers such as T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Tellus, Bell Canada and many smaller regional carriers such as Cellular South.

Each of these Carriers sell HTC phones and accessories through their distribution channels. All the Carriers use Amazon.com, Best Buy, Radio Shack and LetsTalk.com to sell their phones with phone subscriptions. As such they carry the replacement warranty and any refunds are at their discretion.

If you are looking for a refund, please contact your provider.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Great idea! Let's still do the Twitter idea!

You can still make another response. Just keep bringing it to them! LET US RAISE HELL!
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Got in contact with a news writer. Hopefully he can get this ball rolling!

He's a cool guy by the way! :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] shekki:
I hope that this news writer can help put this situation on the map for the public! Has anyone tried contacting anyone from Team Douche or other developers about this situation?

Also I made a thread in the general thread of Android about this. Hopefully that will help our cause as well.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Biohazard0289:
I haven't gotten my hands on my Amaze yet, however you already have my support. I have every intention on spreading the word to any/everyone who will listen.

EDIT: Figured out how to get back into Twitter to tweet this.
[HTC Amaze 4G] shekki:
Thank you Biohazard. Your help is much appreciated! :D I suggest you guys maybe voicing your opinions in the thread I put up in the Android General section so that it doesn't get lost with all the other threads!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Biohazard0289:
Yeah, we need to keep it as visible as possible.

Hopefully the "right person"will see it, or we get enough involvement to get HTC's attention.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
The News Writer has gotten the approval to write the article! He said it'll be up in a day or 2!

I think you RT it and I responded by saying to add the hash tag lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] Biohazard0289:
#Forthecustomer right? I got it in there.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Just searched the Hash tag. I guess it was someone else. I saw your tweet!

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/#Forthecustomer
[HTC Amaze 4G] Y2Ne1:
i sent my email today along with fruit basket gift all in gif tho lol ..... Now don't stop contributing. or i'm telling :rolleyes: Thanks Hoss
[HTC Amaze 4G] infinite_rpm:
Other than emailing, anything else i can do to help?
[HTC Amaze 4G] crazypotato:
We should bring it to the board members level. We should write some letters in both english and chinese to them.
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
Has this been posted on XDA Front Page?

If it hasn't, can we get them to say something about our efforts and possibly get others involved from other forums on XDA?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Biohazard0289:
Got my Amaze today, sent an email. Trying to get friends involved, I have a few friends who are social networking freaks so they may be able to assist with our Twitter campaign.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Great idea I know hasoon has been on there plus they have made him a recognized developer, plus I know he can influence the people since he is a business major. :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Whatever works!

My Twitter idea.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=27576483&postcount=56

My tweet

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=27576665&postcount=57

We can try that! Great idea!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=27604846&postcount=70

The more, the merrier! Let's get the word out!!

I see somebody has been doing their homework on me! :P
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
[QUOTEI see somebody has been doing their homework on me! :P[/QUOTE]

Honestly anyone can if they actually just read around the forums. Your everywhere lol.
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
I am putting this hash tag as well #lastHTCdevice Hoping to get some support some how