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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] robstunner:
Maybe YOU should start working on the root then. Wow what an ignorant thing to post, its amazing how much people will complain for something they contribute nothing for.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Says right in the instructions you need root to downgrade. Unless somebody can confirm otherwise?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
There's a thread on how to downgrade in development.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
You mean the one linked in the post I just quoted? Like I said, that one says it requires root.

Lots of people are saying "just downgrade" on this thread. But I don't think its possible.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] P_Dub_S:
Ah your correct there was another thread on how to get root through AT&T ready to go app but they blocked that now so looks like the OP waited to long.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
It's simply amazing ...

Yes, it's simply amazing how many people will write such non-useful crap that serves no useful purpose.

Look, we've all been there. We all had to learn from the beginning at some point.

I'm also sick of people lobbing ignorant comments my way when it comes to some of the things I do for others, especially here on xda. Case in point ...

Over the last three days I've prepared a 36-page manual that describes, in great detail, how to do virtually everything on a ONE X. Here's the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1678308

It's sad when, after working an average of 70 hours per week as President an owner of my LED lighting company, plus having a 2-1/2-year-old at home, who's a wonderful challenge, plus having issues with my 82-year-old mother suffering from Alzheimers, I still MAKE time to help others, most especially here on xda. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. As I said above, we've all been there, and I'm quite sick and tired of so many others (THEY shall remain nameless), who can't spend a few extra seconds of their precious time to provide a better explanation than the simple "just do it in fastboot," or "use adb," etc.

Yes, I've now learned exactly what these two simple statements mean, but it really would have been nice, and far, far, far easier not just for me, but everyone if, instead of saying the following ...

flash it in fastboot

...they instead said something like ...

open a command prompt, navigate to your adb folder, and flash in fastboot using the following line:

fastboot flash recovery xxxxxxx.img

Wow, it took me an extra 10 seconds. Oh, my goodness, my fingers are now so sore. I think I'll head to the hospital. Be back later.

Peter

P.S. And don't anyone dare tell me, like someone did yesterday, that I should basically shut up and stop "sassing" (their word) the developers because they work so hard at what they do. You know, I probably work as hard if not MUCH harder than most of them, yet I will always try my very best to give some of my time to others. Again, as I said above, it's the right thing to do. You know, maybe if more people did just that, the world wouldn't be so full of self-centred, egotistical ingrates.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Or didn't wait enough. Don't update official firmware without knowing if existing root methods will still work, unless you are willing to live with the consequences.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
Wow. All that and I'm not sure it will even work. Makes me realize how nice it is to have devices like the Nexus that are not locked down as much as HTCs latest on AT&T.

It also seems like Samsung devices are not as difficult to deal with than HTC and the locked bootloader and S-On.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] niceppl:
well..get a OTG..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php...bSeBg &usg=AFQjCNHEnFsWor6zKtrltkg0TIqCxP1pLw

read that post...this allows you to downgrade...with you can get root...

however...you have to get some $$ off of your pocket..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
My bad.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
So only option is to get a new OneX and hope it has 1.82 or below? I'm not even sure root and ROMs are that critical to me but just curious
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crizthakidd:
once rooted what are somethings i can do to make my phone faster? i have no idea why it lags on opening the app drawer
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
You have installed something to make it slow. Since every One X I seen and used did not lag on opening the app drawer. Not seeing lag.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
I've seen where some people say that it lags a little when they open it for the first time after a reboot or it sitting idle a while. It's happened to me a few times also.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mzimmer88:
If you want it, give them some incentive and start a bounty thread.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
Why should they work on a root for 1.85 when there's ways around it? For most of us the whole root purpose is so that we can flash ROM's. The biggest accomplishment was us unlocking the bootloader. Now it doesn't matter what you're on 1.85 or 1.82- because you can downgrade/upgrade to a ROM that allows you to flash CWM. This is what all the work was about. Not to stay on stock ROM and get root. Almost useless IMO. We are beginning to develop our ROM's as a community, and soon kernels when the source is released. This is how development works. The process you're talking about is something that has been exploited awhile ago.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mbaran:
Anyone on 1.85 who did not SuperCID before upgrading is stuck there. So you're incorrect as there is an incentive to root 1.85 so that we can unlock and dow hat you say. Downgrading is also not possible from 1.85 to 1.82 without root as the /misc partition needs editing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] freakboy13:
Man I'm still on 1.7something ....

Man I really want to keep this phone but gnote is looking niece everyday. I just cannot bringmyself to accept this cloud thing.

@peterhtc, don't let it bring ya down, I haven't even read your writeup but props to you for helping people out.

It's the one thing that I don't like about XDA: too many effin babies whining about vs.

It's not xda's fault, noobs come here thinkin they got a right to what's on here and get all butt-hurt when something doesn't go there way.

Don't let bad eggs deter you, I have read your posts and : awesome great job!! :p

Instead of worrying about whether or not someone is trolling(XDA'S idea of trolling: legitimately voicing your opinion when you don't like something)

XDA should be concentrating on the real trolls:

The whiners who don't contribute anything but stupid complaints, followed by dev bashing followed by "this phone sux, yadda yadda etc...."

tired of reading these threads, that do nothing but bring down the usually upbeat and positive demeanor of the XDA community. Like htcpeter said most peeps just want "gimme gimme gimme",

And they want it now...OR ELSE!!!!

Or else what? If you don't like a phone, or certain brand, or carrier, make your case and be on your way.

Please don't bash devs, or people who work just as hard, just because you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Ok I'm done .

/rant

:cool:

sent from my hoXl

got a-Dev ?

www.android-dev.us
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] id10terrordfw:
This. I had one of these as well. My own fault for updating to 1.85 in the first place, but it is unfortunate for all those that missed the window to root. Of course, mine had severe WiFi issues which is why I updated in the first place, and then returned it for a Note. I loved the One X, but the locked bootloader was a total killer for me, as well as the craptacular WiFi.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gtung99:
Sorry guys, not trying to start anything up. Just feeling stupid thats all for updating to 1.85.

BTW I found a store that has ONE X in stock but they told me their manager told them they are not allowed to sell it. They said AT&T has a hold on selling the phones due to the custom battle with Apple.

Going to call customer care and see whats going on....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
Wait what update are you guys talking about? To my understanding, anyone on 1.7x is forced to RUU to 1.85 and then unlock the boot loader to flash CWM. At least that's what I thought I read in Peters guide. Might be wrong though. :o

Sent from my Calculator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Thanks!

Thanks for your support. Normally the "bad" comments don't bother me, but I occasionally have my bad days. Ah, how nice it is to be human. :)

Take care,

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mbaran:
For AT&T the bootloader cannot be unlocked via HTC-Dev unless it's set to SuperCID.

Setting SuperCID requires root.

If you went to 1.85 PRIOR to setting the CID to all 1's, you're stuck on 1.85 with no root and no SuperCID, thus no unlock.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Squeak22:
I can't tell if you are kidding or not.

If not, no no no no no no.

You can do super cid on any version where you have root.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Almost true ...

First, I love your signature, "Sent from my Calculator." :)

Now, to answer/comment on your statement. From what I understand, and I'm not 100% sure, if you're on either 1.7x or 1.82, its not particularly difficult to root, change the CID, then relock, then up-grade to 1.85, then re-lock, then re-root; however, and here's where I may have things not quite right, but if you're already running 1.85, or you were on an earlier build and didn't first change your CID, or root, etc., and then you immediately up-graded to 1.85, then you're stuck.

Basically, if you had an OEM ROM, didn't really do anything to it, and then up-graded to 1.85, you're stuck. However, if you at any point on your previous build either rooted your device, or changed the CID to 11111111, then I think you can perform all the mods to end up with 1.85, unlocked bootloader, generic CID, and rooted. That's how mine is right now.

I hope I explained myself clear enough.

Peter

---------- Post added at 05:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:12 PM ----------

Yes, you're right. You must first be rooted to change CID; however, you DO NOT or DID NOT need your bootloader unlocked to root. That is, only on builds prior to 1.85.

Peter

Page 5 of my revised Guide under PREREQUISITES indicates clearly that you need to be rooted before beginning any of the mods.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
OHH I see. So for anybody on 1.7x the process should be - Root> Set SuperCID> update to 1.85> unlock boot loader> flash CWM > flash ROM of choice to attain root again. Is this all true? Finally rooting my phone tonight because ATT can't give me a replacement HOX. I'll just deal with the little screen problem I have.

Sent from my Calculator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gtung99:
I was on 1.82 unlocked and rooted but my cid was ROGER001 which would not allow me to use the RUU. I changed it to 11111111 and still it wouldn't work. So i changed it back to CWS__001 and locked it. I figured that CWM would still be there after the RUU, I was wrong. Aftewards without CWM I can't flash su back on. And my unlock token from HTC no longer works because my CID is now CWS_001 rather than ROGER001.

Ok so this is interesting, I called customer care and told them about what I heard from the store. They were not aware so I asked them to call the store and talk to them. She did and then told me they were going to allow me to return the phone to the store without a restocking fee. But not exchanges allowed. I asked them what about if i wanted to exchange the phone due to a defect with customer care, she put me on hold and called the warranty dept and they told her the same thing. They have none in stock and to tell customers to return the device at the store and get something else and waive the restocking fee.

It sounds like even with the custom lift that AT&T might be looking to stop support and sales of the One X.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rohan32:
You don't need to flash the ROM only, you could stick with stock and just flash the Superuser binary. But yeah, that works too.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
I want to go senseless :P alright well hopefully I don't mess anything up tonight.. that is for sure the right process. PS thanks Peter for your awesome guide!

Sent from my Calculator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] id10terrordfw:
Incorrect, you have the update to 1.85 in there where it shouldn't be. You must unlock the bootloader FIRST while still on 1.7x or 1.82, then relock and keep the unlock token, then you can install 1.85, unlock using the same token, and install CWM, and THEN root 1.85.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
Thanks but I figured it out haha. I did it all last night. Now running senseless nocturnal :)

Sent from my Calculator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Well since everyone spent time trying to help you, do the right thing and explain how you fixed it so the rest of the community can benefit.

I am unaware of a way to get off of 1.85 if you have no super cid or didn't root during the small root window.

So consider posting here what you did, or perhaps even start a thread "how to downgrade from 1.85 with no root and locked BL".

Lastly, the 1.85 RUU's made VERY clear that there was no root available. Only after some of us flashed did we get a ~8 hour windows to root. Just sayin.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mbaran:
I think as new OTA's come out, and phones start shipping with these OTA's preinstalled, or users grab them before coming here first, there will be a need for a root/downgrade solution.

For those of us stuck (like me) it's just a waiting game until the need catches up... :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chinapaulo:
That's exactly the path I took. Running CleanROM 2.2 now and loving it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Almost correct ...

Your sequence is almost correct, but it's missing one step. Based on my GUIDE, here's what you need to do ... in this exact order:

ROOT>CHANGE CID TO 11111111>RELOCK BOOTLOADER>UPDATE TO 1.85>UNLOCK BOOTLOADER>FLASH CWM>RE-ROOT

You missed step 3, RELOCK BOOTLOADER

Good luck!

Peter

My GUIDE is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1678308
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chinapaulo:
If all you do on step 2 is change the CID without actually completing the unlock, you don't need to relock the bootloader.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Correct ...

Actually, you're right. It's only imperative that you root your phone first, which is necessary to change the CID. However, if you never unlocked the bootloader to begin with, rooted, and then changed the CID, you do not need to re-lock the bootloader. After all, it's still locked anyway.

Thanks for pointing this out.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] corythug:
Yes. You need to have changed to superCID and unlocked bootloader(then relock to ruu then unlock again...) To get root on 1.85 via recovery root.zip.

This is my understanding at least. Anyone feel free to correct me.

((didnt see the next page in the thread where this was answered already, oops hah))
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] meohman1:
This is correct - there are quite a few of us who went to 1.85 right about the time AT&T closed the root exploit, so we're stuck with stock 1.85 with no root, a locked bootloader, and no Super CID. We can't RUU back to 1.82 or 1.73. We need root (at least) and Super CID to downgrade, load another ROM, unlock, you name it.

So we, the willing but unfortunate, are watching the boards for a Root Exploit for 1.85. I feel confident that someone will get root for 1.85.

Mike
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] patstock11:
I agree with the person that said root will come for 1.85 as soon as the phone ships with that version.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mbaran:
Thatn was me, and that's the issue. 1.85 is a niche for those of us who ****ed up.

Once there's an ota or it ships with the exploit closed, well see a new root release. Sucks playing the waiting game though.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
The problem is 1.85 was just a leak. There most likely wont be an official 1.85. it still has the data bugs. But... When a higher number RUU is out you can upgrade no problem, hopefully that will be soon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] corythug:
Stay optimistic guys. I'm glad I didn't rush into anything with this phone, which is weird considering I usually root and tinker on day one with previous phones.

But like you guys are saying, as soon as a new ota, perhaps at the time of the re launch, arrives some clever sole will root it within a day...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 18th.abn:
NO root>NO SuperCID--NO SuperCid>NO downgrading firmware (for now)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TKTAB911:
1.85 is the official ATM.

Its an OTA update ^_^

Which... Means you'll be finding a method for it all sooner or later than what may have been thought. [New One X shipments have 1.85 stock so therefor there WILL be a method. Just give it some time.]
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] digthemlows:
Have a new phone coming from Amazon tomorrow, hope it's not 1.85 ........... i'll bet it is though, ughh..............this is feeling like the dell streak..........why is it that every phone i have is the bastard step child phone?? Dell Streak to Samsung Infuse to OneX ......... Sure get to learn alot by having to do the workarounds, but jeeezzz..........
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
What do you mean you'll be finding a method for it all?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] elusivebyte:
This has happened. My new HOX from the AT&T store came with 1.85 :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] acPIZZA:
Same boat here buddy.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tyshemi:
Thinking maybe we need to start a bounty ?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
that's not a bad idea.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Today is the last day of my 30 day return window and I am planning on exchanging my HOX for a new one because the top right corner of my screen clicks when I press on it. I'm really hoping that I don't get a 1.85 phone because at this point I don't think I can deal with not having root for even a day. They need to get this **** rooted pronto.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'm so glad that when I had to make a return for the same issue they still had original stock still available.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tyshemi:
So we should maybe get a general consensus for bounty idea and go from there
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Do you know if there is a way to tell without opening the box? I'm gonna ask them if it's original stock or from a new shipment but I can already see the look on the rep's dumbfounded face when I ask.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TKTAB911:
Make em open the box and power it on. Say you're "checking for flaws" but be sure they're already convinced you're going to purchase it. Just swing into the settings and find out :]
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'm not sure but the sku number for mine is 65383

maybe someone who got one with 1.85 can tell us if the sku is different.

the barcode on the side also says 90H03411-01M Rev. A. Hope this helps
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
So I stopped in to the AT&T store and after some schmoozing with the manager he let me check the software version of the new phone and of course it was at 1.85. I told him I had to go home and backup my phone and I'll think about if I want it or not. He put it aside for me, but I don't know what the hell to do. I know it will be rooted *eventually* and I really don't want to get stuck with a phone with a hardware defect for the next year or so (or whenever the next greatest phone comes out) but I am reluctant to do it. Someone please talk some sense into me and convince me to just swap it out and deal with not having root for a bit.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] droidiac13:
At least you know what you're getting. I went in, exchanged and figured I received a returned phone because of it. Booted into bootloader and it hadn't been tampered with. It was at that time I said, ****. I honestly couldn't believe it. How the hell did they accomplish this? Did they ship with it or somehow update them while sitting at the dock? It seems weird... It's a tough call for you since there is no guarantee the one you get will be better. My existing one has sa serious issue with Bluetooth. My headset won't stay connected once a call starts. Immediately disconnects after about to rings. Sucks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Aside from the clicking screen, the phone is completely perfect so I am nervous. Whatever I get, I'm stuck with. Part of me wants to open my phone up and toss some glue in there to get the screen to stop moving but I don't want to fvck it up. I am pretty damn good with crap like that but I don't know if the risk is worth the gain. Same thing goes with swapping out the phone too. Rock, meet hard place.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thcue:
Gout mine 3 weeks ago on the box says SKU: 65383

Had the 173 on it? one before 185

Hope that helps
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
how pronounced is it?

My original HOX would click with the slightest pressure. My current one does it too but it takes a LOT more. If I were you, since we have 1 year warranty on these devices, I'd hang onto the rooted phone you already have.

Slap a case on it and don't worry about the corner.

Just my 2 cents.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
I'm sure if I showed it to someone they would think I was crazy for being annoyed by it, but it bothers the **** out of me. Seriously, every time I pick up the phone now since I noticed it the first thing I do is check to see if it has miraculously corrected itself. It has not. I have an hour and 45 minutes to decide.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
My first one was so bad I could actually lift the glass away from the phone a couple of millimeters. This one just creaks a bit when I push down hard. My HTC inspire did the same thing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tyshemi:
As anyone talked to ken about his exploit lately? Not to change the subject
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
I'd do the same. It's still under warranty, just not store exchange. I don't think it'll be long for root now though..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] droidiac13:
I agree with Gunny. But I always agree with Gunny.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
I definitely can't lift the glass away but it does produce an audible click when I put pressure on it. You can feel the click to. Man does it irk me.

I just called the store, the manager is going to give me till Sunday to make a decision (to wait and see if it gets rooted *wink wink). I had him note my account. He said even after Sunday I can still walk into a warranty center and they can give me a replacement over the counter or ship me a new one. So, one way or another I will just wait till 1.85 gets rooted. Sweet relief.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
great news. Now find something else to obsess about :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] droidiac13:
I'm really beginning to think that having a HOX that works isn't the norm. This is my third one and its the worst yet. Don't get text message notifications (which gets me botched at) and my Bluetooth won't stay connected. I've definitely come to the side of keeping what you have. It's getting to the point that I'm disgusted with the quality... :confused: