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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).

I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.

If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.

There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.

On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock :)

I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shu8i:
I'm currently in the same dilemma... Mainly because of apps. A lot of apps on iOS either take too long, or don't get released on Android at all. -Yes we have probably almost the same amount of apps on Android as on iOS, but not quality apps. Besides, for me as a startup app developer, iOS is better for business :P I was waiting for the SGS III, but was disappointed. Would have gotten the One X, if sprint imo wouldn't have uglyfied it. So now I'm waiting for the new iPhone, and hopefully it won't be an iPhone 4SS. Then I might consider switching too.

PS. see, not hate :P we can communicate in a mature manner ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.

I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sol_671:
Their battery is about the same for me but the iPhone 4s has battery on sleep mode/ standby but the E4GT has better battery while in use but by the end of the day their battery drainage is about the same. Camera seems better on the E4GT maybe it's just the screen. Seriously though it's whatever floats your boat. You like massive apps, buying accessories and just want a simple phone then stick to the iPhone, for everything else E4GT is better in my opinion I hate the size of the iPhone screen and it gets boring after 2 days.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
Honestly, I love the learning process of new phones, which is why I switch so often. I still have not had a Motorola or Apple smartphone ever, so those were next on my list. I went from the Samsung Instinct to HTC Diamond to HTC Hero, to Epic 4G to E4GT, and now iPhone 4S.

I have put a lot of effort into android, but I can always come back. Plus I will admit, that I will probably spend less time on forums in general (still will be on XDA a bit) since you can't customize the iPhone as much. That was another key aspect of getting a phone like the iPhone....I will have more time to study for the GMATs instead of being drawn to all these amazing devs and their work! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb

And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)

But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated

Who said that iPhones are simple
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sol_671:
I freaking hated jailbreaking the iPhone(on the 3gs days), everything stops working like Cydia when a new update/OS is available then you have to jailbreak all over again and spend so much time bringing everything back, it's one of the few updates I dont ever look forward to because of the hassle. My girl has my iPhone 4s now it had nothing to offer me that my E4GT couldn't do
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SSickLS2:
My wife and I both used to have original Evo's and about 6 months ago I went to the e4gt, and she went with the iPhone 4s. We frequently use each others phones and we both have likes and dislikes. Here are some of our big complaints:

Most of these are the obvious *****es that everyone has...

No 4G

Small screen

No back button

No external storage

Your clueless friends act like you finally decided to get a smartphone.

Positives are:

Camera is much better

High quality look and feel. (The brushed aluminum is a nice touch)

Siri is really cool. (I have tried the leaked S voice app, and I don't think we will see anything that comes close to Siri in the next couple of years)

The iOS is very polished. The cliche is true, "it just works"...

Manufacturers of other products (home or mobile audio mainly) gear everything towards iPhone.

I personally wouldn't go to an iPhone, but I like tinkering and customizing. My wife just wants stability, excellent camera, and good battery life. I definitely see the attraction of both devices. They both have their positives and negatives, it just comes down to preference. Have fun!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.

I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
Yeah I have both and iPhone is for people who don't do a lot with their phone. Your paying sprint 10 dollars extra and you get slow 3g. And the screen is so small.

But it is a great phone. Maybe if it were bigger and had lte maybe but sprint 3g is horrible. If your on wifi its OK.

Pure ICS only
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pheno.menon:
You will curse the screen for being so tiny on a daily basis.

Sent from my slim n trim Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
It was really straight forward with the ipad 3

It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iniz94:
My sister has an iPhone and I just jailbroke it for her yesterday. It's amazing how you can customize it with Jailbreaking... I made her phone look like the SII haha. But I still prefer Android because you can customize more even compared to jailbroken iPhones, and jailbreaking isn't completely stable. I'd say that custom ROMs on our phone are in general (not like nightly builds, but regular ROMs) are more stable than jailbroken features on iPhones. I personally don't like the shape of the iPhone or the small screen. Siri also isn't anything special IMO because no one ever ends up using it... just something to brag with. Like I seriously haven't met anyone who used Siri on a daily basis for functionality. To be honest, it's faster looking at a weather widget or opening a weather app than telling Siri to get the weather anyways.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
How is it a zillion clicks lol. The only one click root for the E4GT I have seen once the app is running, its one click. The auto rooter was never advertised as a one click if thats what you mean. Maybe something else back in the EG30 days but i cam just before EK02 went ota.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
I thought about getting an iphone but several things turned me off about it. First the hardware feels dated and screen seems small compared to this phone. Second in order to do anything with the files on the phone you have to use a software interface of some sort. For example you cant just plug into any pc, xfer files then unplug, you need itunes. Finally it just feels like a dumbed down content delivery device to me. Android feels and functions like a computer and I like that. I do understand how the simplicity of iphone would appeal to many but its just not for me. I also like being a bit different and popping down my S2 on the table with all my friends iphones at the restaurant or bar.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arrows83:
My job provided me with an iPhone and I use the E4GT personally.

The iPhone "just works"...but thats it...Its a no thrills phone that just works.

I personally love my E4GT but it takes much tweaking to make it yours.

I will admit. SIRI is awesome but i feel like its just a gimmick for the "Lazy" person who doesn't want to take the few extra steps to do what SIRI does for you.

It is a learning curve but in the end, it really is up to the person and their preference. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shiftr182:
I had both, sold the iPhone. I will never own another apple device. The best thing about android is that its open source. That is how things should be. The iPhone was too small, not customizable, and the majority of the apps are paid apps. Also, downloads took FOREVER! I also tried a Galaxy Nexus and sold it this morning. Im sticking with the E4GT until something freaking spectacular pops up. My main things about the E4GT that keep me here: Processor is fast, screen looks fantastic, camera is badass, and the roms are plentiful.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] snake4812:
I owned iPhones for years, the biggest deal breaker by far is the tiny screen size. Buy even if it was a larger screen I would never ever be able to go back.

I do see how it is better for average users who just want something that is easy and works out of the box

sent from cyanogenmod9 on e4gt
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nthornton1990:
I had the iPhone 3G and iPhone 4. And i will say that when i had them i loved them....(they were also jailbroken) when the ios 5 beta was announced i quickly tried to use it and bricked the phone (they soon found a way around having to provide a udid.) I switched to the Samsung infuse... And loved it. The larger screen size help me out alot because i have large thumbs. I had a hard time with the keyboard. The overall speed was great and so was the themeing. The flashaholic didnt come out in me until the e4gt though. The iPhone 4 was a nice phone but it didn't live up to what i needed. I feel as though the apps are more stable on ios because there is no competition with iPhones. But with android.... Well hell look how many phones we have on xda. Developers have to make sure that everything works across so many different os's, screen sizes, and companies.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jonapunk:
I had the I phone 4s and ill be honest it was a good phone but I have used android since the g1 and couldn't get over a few small things.one was screen size two was all your icons are on your home screens.. Widgets which I had grown accustomed to were not there neither was live wall paper. I know these things don't matter to many people but these were the main reasons I traded it in during my return period for the et4g
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LeKtRiCzzz:
Where did you sell your E4GT and where did you buy your iPhone 4S
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brooksyx:
My girlfriend has an iPhone 4s and the phone just feels so tiny in my hand after using the e4gt. I remember the iPhone used to be one of the bigger phones. If I am even going to consider getting the next iPhone it needs to be a lot bigger because I can't see myself going back to a smaller smartphone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
I sold my E4GT on the XDA Marketplace (will be shipping it tomorrow) and bought a 16 GB White 4S from eBay. I know some people have had bad luck with buying/selling from XDA, but thankfully I've been lucky. I bought a PS3 from someone on there, and everything worked out perfectly. This buyer seems like he's really reputable which is good (and I am not out to scam anyone either).

On a side note, after going through MacRumors, there are some ridic Apple fanboys out there.....10 minutes on that forum and I already want to punch 10 people lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boi2gangsta:
IPhones are much cheaper to fix too, parts for the e4gt aren't cheap at all
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
Ya, that's what happens when people just keep sipping on that Apple jizz... Err I mean juice
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] euphoria:
The worst thing about the 4S (or any iPhone) is iTunes... *urgh*

I think standby battery life is incredible on the 4S as well so its good if all you use it for is text, email, and some calls.

I think Android and iOS have developed like Windows and OS X. Android is for power users. iOS is for people who want their phone to be reliable (not that Android isn't...).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iniz94:
The most annoying thing is that to Apple fanboys, Android has a reputation for being unstable and buggy and cheap. They don't understand that the top Androids blow their phones out of the water because there are so many crappy phones they are Android these days giving us bad reps
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sputnik767:
My friend with the iPhone 4S agrees that the camera is considerably better on my E4GT. Everything from the picture quality to the actual control that I have over the shot (ISO, WB, etc) seems to be better on the E4GT. We simply took a picture of the same thing in the same environment at the same time, and compared it. I just had a picture printed that I took with my phone on vacation on an overcast day, and the picture quality rivals that of the medium-range P&S cams. It's nothing like my Canon Rebel XS DSLR with a $600 Tamron lens, but damn good for a phone. The iphone camera is equally good at best, but certainly not better. I have also always found that the iphone camera does not do so well in low light. Even my old Evo 4G could take a better pic in low light than what I've seen from iphones.

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They are right about the devices being buggy, but wrong about them being cheap. Its very simple, Apple spends an inordinate amount of time tweaking and optimizing their OS to comparably inferior hardware, and they do such a good job at it that their devices outperform their Android counterparts out of the box. I have never used an Android device that was as good out of the box as an iphone. Now, when you root/unlock and start to mess with custom roms and kernels, and get rid of carrier-installed bloat, the high-end Android devices are better in all respects. But let's face it, we comprise a very small portion of the Android user base. If a company that made an Android device actually put in the effort to fine-tune their product the way Apple does, they could easily unseat the iPhone as the king. Unfortunately, it seems that every company is content with slapping a bloated UI on an unoptimized kernel, and the end user is left frustrated with the FCs and an under-performing device.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ky0nkyon:
Enjoy that smoothness while you have it! Judging by you being a member of xda, we'll see you back in a few months! :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
I have attached an amazing picture that I took with my E4GT, probably the best picture I've ever taken....it's sunset in the bay area! The picture is just simply amazing!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LeKtRiCzzz:
How much did you sell it for
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
I sold it for $250 shipped. I would have probably gotten more on eBay, but with the seller fee's it would have been around that price or lower anyways in the end, plus the hassle of dealing with eBay buyers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
The iSheep can be a misinformed bunch. Us Android lovers tend to be more open to learning than they are. I went to a couple of fanboy sites a while back and almost wanted to break my computer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] playya:
My boy had given my son an Iphone and within minutes I had to get rid of it. It just seems so blah.. There are hundreds of different android devices vs 1 iphone. Its just so cool to be able to root so many different things and use so many different OS's on a phone or tablet. Thats what keeps me coming back for more. I am sure the fruit people are happy but I don't think I could do both again...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rocket321:
I played with a Note and an iphone4s in best buy yesterday. I was genuinely surprised by how small the iPhone screen is. It felt very much like a child's toy in my hand. that may partly be because I have big hands, but I also don't think I could buy into a phone with a screen smaller than 4".
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jonapunk:
Isn't it funny that just a couple of years ago people were complaining that phones with a 4 inch screen was to big

:-) now I can't handle anything smaller
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] corys00:
I have had both. I went from E4GT to iPhone 4S and back to the E4GT (and soon the EVO LTE).

I'll go back to an iPhone if it gets a bigger screen and LTE, especially LTE. The data speeds on it right now are painfully slow.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LeKtRiCzzz:
Screw EBay I forgot one game when I sold my wii and the guy sent the wii back and now they want me to pay
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
Yea, I will really miss the big screen....I'm sure I will be cursing as I keep mistyping all my words while texting, and the iphone only gives you 1 word for prediction....if the next iPhone is 4", and I really like the 4S, I may stick with it, but we'll see.

I personally think 4.3" is perfect, but I doubt any android will go down to that or iphone will go that high up.

I know I will miss 4G quite a bit....and the gmail/gchat app as well. But I'm excited to play with this new (for me) OS!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] radrian92:
I'll just leave this here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
My boss and my co-worker run stock E4gT's and make fun of their iphone friends constantly.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SSickLS2:
I wish I could agree with you... Trust me! On paper they are actually the same camera with a different lense.

Stock for stock right out of the box the iPhone 4s camera is just better. I have read a couple of iPhone 4s vs E4GT comparison reviews that echo my claim as well. We also took a few pictures of the same subject in the same light to compare and in our opinion the 4s looked quite a bit better, but this debate is obviously subjective. One thing that is not debatable is how much faster the 4S camera is. It might literally be twice as fast.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pheno.menon:
Lmao.. nice!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Contact25:
Went from G1 to the iPhone to a vibrant then g2x then this. And I almost went back to apple before grabbing this. Was tired of the lack of manufacturer and carrier support to the next os. I went with what's the best phone for me. I had a 160gb iPod now I have a 64gb touch so I didn't need music on my phone. I watch a lot of vids so a good sized screen is a must. I love to customize and actually have control over my phone. All my phones have been flashed and jail broken. And customization on iPhone doesn't hold a candle to flashing a rom or even running stock. All in all iPhone is great for its simplicity, but I on the other hand am not a simple man. :cool:

Phone: No one cares

Rom: No one cares

Modem: No one cares

Kernel: No one cares
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
I've always been tempted to try out the iPhone in terms of simplicity and battery life but then I remembered that it's an Apple product and they're abusing the patent system.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sputnik767:
I agree, very good pic. That's my point, the E4GT has a good camera. To my eyes (and I do photography as a hobby), the camera on the iPhone 4S is no better than the E4GT, and low light pics are better on the E4GT in my experience. Maybe there are certain conditions where the 4S can take a better pic, but I haven't seen any truly convincing evidence that the camera is significantly better.

Here's one very random pic that I took with my E4GT. I am uploading it exactly as it was taken, with no post-processing of any kind. I challenge anyone to show me a better quality pic, taken indoors, with any iDevice. Heck, I'll even extend that challenge to the basic P&S camera.

One more, same idea as to no post-processing, and no, not my car

In both of those pics I used the stock camera app, and everything was on auto. I believe the flash fired on the first pic, but no flash on the second one.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
the only thing I envy the iphone for is the stability of apps (well apps that I use) and push notifications that dont rape the battery.

with that being said, even though the screen is small, the DPI is great, and makes using such a small screen not so bad to actually use.

Unfortunately, it is missing tooooo many key features for me. especially being a rapper. Someone sends me a hulkshare or sendspace link, I cant download it, theres no file system accessible, if im typing an email and want to attach a song or beat, its just not possible OOB with the iPhone. ICS has taken android to the next level. If i could have afford to have both, I would. Also the lack of 4g wont work for me especially with the terrible 3G speeds of Sprint.

I do envy the iPhone also for aesthetics. it looks and feels awesome. Not to start a e-war, but to each his own. I hate to see people bashing the iPhone, its actually an awesome device. We just prefer to have more options and I am guilty of that. The closed nature of iOS wouldnt work for me, however, I know plenty of geeks and IT pros who prefer it because of stability, and you cant blame them either

I like
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Urban legend... IOS apps crash just as much if not more than Android
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
ive had both, not necessarily apps crashing, but stability issues. For example, Facebook and Twitter both cause serious wake locks and severe heating issues on some of our phones. (ics roms)its the inherent problem with apps on android. so many devices, no way they are going to run stable across the board. but its things like that that give iOS some attraction. They only have to code apps for 4 devices pretty much.

Not enough to make me switch tho lol. Too many positives on android, but I do envy iOS for that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sratwars:
Actually 3g is faster on my sisters iPhone than my e4gt
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
My 3g speeds were ok, hopefully they are a bit better the iPhone 4S. And hopefully it is better at picking up signal, since my E4GT bars would fluctuate a lot with every single modem!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
My E4GT is an iPhone!

I'm running MIUI with the iPhone theme, and I can say IMO this is better than an iPhone!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamiandae24:
Wanting to create custom splash screens but need the splash code for the EVO 4G. Anyone have it or can direct me to one?

Thanks in Advance :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evilone69tmg:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1146515
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamiandae24:
Thank You!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sdhanjal15:
Is it possible to make the YouTube app play HD instead of HQ. The videos look pretty back and all boxy even with a fast wifi connection

~*Life is a beach, I'm just playing in the sand*~
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shark_On_Land:
No

Edit: maybe if you use a computer user agent in a browser that allows it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sdhanjal15:
Na

~*Life is a beach, I'm just playing in the sand*~
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jojoost:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1529715

do you mean this?

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