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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] E36Allen:
I can guarantee you they don't have any data priority. I had the got the original EPIC when it came out. I live in Atlanta. Was pulling down 8-11mb/s down consistently. Over time that went to ****, thought it was my phone, swapped it out. Same crap speed. Few months later swapped over to a Nexus 4G, again atrocious speeds, it got to the point where I couldn't even connect to 4G at all any more, and if I could it would only be fore about 3-4 minutes before it disconnected.

Decided it since all I can no longer reliably use sprints WiMAX network, that i should try the iPhone 4s and I still get worse then dialup speeds. These last 2 weeks Ive actually been losing 3g signal quite frequently. Full reception, no 3g...wtf. Cant wait for this contract to be up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LordJummy:
Yep I'm in Houston TX too and I get downright AWFUL signal, data, etc. It's all bad. I'm going over to Verizon in a couple months. Sigh.

About 90% of the time my calls lose signal and break up. I get call failure 50% of the time. This is even when I'm stationary and appear to have decent signal strength. Why the hell am I paying them, you know? I never had these problems back in 2001 on a piece of crap nokia on ATT. I swear the better the phones get the more f*cking problems they have.

/rantover
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] air2k57:
Highlight of the day lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pbassjunk:
:sad eyes:

The ping is pretty decent. The thruput is fail.

AFAICT, the iphone really did screw Sprint. I was on Sprint with the original Palm Pre, pretty consistent 2-3mb on 3G. Easily kept up with my Droid 1 on VZW.

Came back to Sprint solely for the 4g touch, it's pretty awful.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] euphoria:
Hmmm. My Sprint 3G is faster then my 3G when I was on Verizon. From what I understand CDMA 3G is weak for some reason.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rob4828:
I can't even reach 600kbps anymore :mad:

sent from my calculator
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rob the plumber:
I remember those sweet 4G posters hanging up everywhere back when i bought my original Evo.

3 years later? 2?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Did they look more like these?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] peanut1596:
I'm in a poorly covered area but I'm on the fe22 modem and speeds are bearable for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jmejiaa:
Same here in NY. Not only data for me, voice has been terribly choppy.

They said they are doing work. I have started to bring up cancellation due to bad service and asking the people on the phone to please make note that the phone really has been terrible. I pay for my mothers line so as her nagging gets worse I'll have to start considering other options.

I really don't want to, as I like sprint in theory and their plans are the cheapest for me..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
Its interesting that you mention this... I've noticed this in Milwaukee, as well. Up until the past month or so, areas that I ALWAYS used to get 3g in, I've been hopping back and forth between 3g and 1x.

The strange thing is, even when I force roaming, places that used to be 3g are not reliably 3g anymore. I wonder if there is some stellar interference going on?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
Will comment on this...

As you know sprint is doing a massive network changeout...

This isn't a changeout in the normal sense.. They are totally dismantling the old setups and having to rerun every cable from the antenna to the base station (they are switching the entire network to fiberoptic cables from the antenna to the base station instead of the traditional copper)... They are also ripping out the entire 1xRTT/EVDO base station and replacing it with the new combined unit... I read somewhere this can take a week to a couple weeks to complete on 1 tower and you will be relying on other tower coverage while it is being conducted... If they are working on multiple towers in your area at the same time.. well you can see how this will change signal strength and avalibility... Do not use EVO 3d or Evo LTE as a comparison, because the 1x Advanced is being rolled out at the same time and these phones can utilize the advanced voice channels (epic 4g touch isn't compatible)... We shall see what happens when the dust settles and the new towers and tech is stabilized...

Some of the towers they are working on are shared by other carriers and some other carriers actually lease out 3g bandwidth from the primary carrier on the tower... So say it is a Sprint Tower and verizon wants to lease space because it is more cost effective for them to do this instead of putting up their own tower because the demand isnt' high. This means that if the sprint network is down for upgrades/repairs, the entire cell is down included the leased bandwidth that Verizon is using for their network... This only really works between Verizon and Sprint because they both still maintain a compatible CDMA2000 network (AT&T and T-Mobile are utilizing UTMS networks and they have this same situation)... Now this changes when it comes to LTE and WiMAx but that is an entirely different ballgame..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jmejiaa:
Question:

Will the new towers provide better signal/range?

We have to use an airave at home, which I'm not too fond of and every other carrier works fine in my home.. Do you think this will get better as Sprint upgrades their stuff?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
It is a complicated answer to this questions... Yes and No and reference to the epic 4g Touch... Yes in general

Sprint is upgrading to 1x Advanced (an augmentation of CDMA2000 and specifically 1xRTT)...

This will allow better spectrum prioritization between voice communications and data communication... In turn this also increases the range that the 1x signal can reach over the 800 mHz channel (1xRTT is THE ONLY technology used for Voice communication at this time.. EVDO is a DATA only connection...)

The only problem.. The Epic 4g Touch is not compatible with 1x Advanced (right now only the Evo 3d and Evo LTE are I believe)...

But, as more phones utilize 1x Advanced, it means that the spectrum will be utilized in a better priority and we should see increases in the avalible bandwidth as a whole...

IDK if I completely answered your question or not..

Edit: In respect to data.. EVDO is at a dead end.. Rev B is suppose to be great but I doubt you will see any roll out considering all networks are going to LTE as their data technology... In the future, you will probably see a decrease in avalible EVDO networks when LTE is projected to have the same coverage as current technology and most devices will be long past their EOL... At this time, Verizon and Sprint have both stated they have no plans to phase out 1xRTT for voice communications because the network is so large and it is very cheap to run a 1xRTT network...

But you have seen what is happening to both EDGE and iDEN networks... I believe that will be the future of EVDO but that isn't based on any real information... just a gut feeling.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jmejiaa:
It helps understand a little better for sure.

Hopefully sometime soon I'll just have decent speeds and stable voice calling.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
Here is why you can't compare it to the verizon rollout.. Verizon was using independent technologies and base stations so they could install the new one while the old one was still functioning and no one was the wiser.. Sprint is replacing the ENTIRE basestation...

http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19

Some good information and images
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
Don't burn your hand holding that baby!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
All I know is now even wimax 4G is slow as a turd falling from a cows ass:

What the he'll happened? A few months ago I averaged about 5mbps
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] proxy0:
Right now I'm getting 7mbps down. 3g is terrible terrible
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bazirker:
Yes! I live just north of Park Meadows Mall, and my 3G has been awful. Same for my wife (iPhone 4S for her.)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jpkelly05:
Ok... so I was looking around FCC for information. Found something worth mentioning. I am not sure exactly what it means but it does seem that Sprint is trying to up our speed through 800 MHz. View attachment DA-12-506A1.pdf
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ravaged Pheonix:
Ha I laugh at your ridiculously fast speeds. Take this!

And that was with 5 bars of signal. And yes that is kbps not KBps

Sent from my ridiculously long named phone ---

Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
Speeds way down and less consistent in both Cleveland and Toledo, Toledos always been slow but not usually cleveland
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
im in cleveland too... **** BLOWS honestly if it were not for the fact that I owe all the other carriers money because of friends and family, i would have left sprint in a heartbeat
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ravaged Pheonix:
In Canton actually. 25upgrades planned in the next6months within 10miles of me according to sprint

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Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ElAguila:
I am in San Antonio and the speeds are just awful. I am getting average downstream speeds of 275kbps on 3G. compare to that my friends is getting 2.1mbps on att. And the 4G is absolutely spotty at best. Getting really frustrated and thinking of swapping to att at this rate.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
SO am I the only person here that is experiencing SLOW 4g? I get 4g signal in plenty of areas I am usually in, but the speed has take a dump!! :mad:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] air2k57:
Nope, I forgot how to turn 4g on even hehe. It used to be spotty, now, even more spotty. Inside sprint store, with full bars, I can get maybe 2.5mbps... that's with them having a signal booster inside the store, which is nothing more than a ****ty router connected to a normal outlet...

If I go anywhere else, my 4g is 1-1.5mbps, with constant signal drops. Downtown Denver, 4g is around 700-900kbps during peak hours, with 3g so bad that I can't even get my email to refresh.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TheAtheistOtaku:
I wish I had 4g DJ that I can complain about it. I got screwed with Wimax. Now I have to wait forever fit lte. And I don't even now when I will get it. (Buffalo NY)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zurginator:
4G completely dropped out down here in Atlanta... I work under a Sprint tower (literally), so yeah.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
Im in LA, and I can see my tower from my window. 4G has been dropping for me, lately.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] peanut1596:
And here I thought it was just my 4g...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I don't know what happened to my 4g but it suddenly took off!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
I don't understand why 4G is slowing down. I thought they (wimax) was on separate towers? Did prepaid phones get wimax already? I get good signal piss poor speed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] galexandr:
Washington DC metro area. Both 3g and 4g. What do you guys say? Good or bad?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
Wish I could say the same
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] air2k57:
For comparison, this is on gnexus on tmo around Thornton area, with about 1-3 bars of hspa. In same areas I get about .10mbps on sprint these days.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kenfly:
try flashing a different modem. im on FD16 (on boost mobile) and my speeds are consistent at around 1mb
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pbassjunk:
Baltimore here..

3G:

4G:

4G is from yesterday during all of the tornado crap. Best I've ever seen, it's usually 8-9mbs.

Maybe everyone followed directions and went into their basements and lost signal?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] peanut1596:
San Antonio area sucks eggs... 3g is from 100kbps-500kbps tops. And 4g tops out at 1mbps on a good day... super slow lately.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ElAguila:
I am in the San Antonio area as well and you are getting much better than me. i am getting much less than that. It is frustrating when my friend on ATT is getting 3G speeds that faster than my 4G speeds.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I don't know what's going on right noe but 4g is even better in Jersey right now. Its up 4 Mbps from last month
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] air2k57:
Still at .60mbps on 4g on my touch lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
That is the phase out of IDen and implementation of 1x Advanced over 800 mhz i believe.. It will increase spectrum prioritization and also increase distance from tower (but decrease penetration) of the CDMA2000 protocol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Hero_Guy:
So the towers near my house and work went down for a couple days and just came back up the other day. Looks like they did a little update and now my speed is pretty good again. I was pushing almost 2000kbps but it seemed to have settled around 800-1000kbps. I'd post a screenshot but the XDA app won't let me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
Sounds like your tower got the new MultiMode upgrade and probably has 1x Advanced (although the Epic 4g Touch can't use 1x Advanced)... I wrote a long explanation somewhere back on the earlier pages about what this means...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dan122686:
3g slower speeds

I'm close to chicago and we've got crappy service here too. haven't done a speed test, but its slow enough to where i want to use wifi 100 percent of the time. sprint claims they are updating they're towers and speeds will be much faster soon even on the 3g phones, but we will see i guess....:confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
John. Have you disabled the sprint proxy? The one you access through ##3282#
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
I use wifi whenever possible anyway. Its faster than 3g and 4g max speeds no matter what.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] infrared_guy:
Agreed in jax now but was at the boston airport friday and could not even google maps to load in a timely manner thinking i should have stayed with tmobile...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
At my house

Note: Tallahassee does not have WiMAX... That was over EVDO Rev A
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zeau2004:
For me, Sprint data has really slowed down this week...WTF

I'm in Miami BTW
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mjs2011:
So regarding this subject, I see a lot of different "tweaks" floating around, and I'm wondering if anyone could offer insight as to which tweaks (if any) actually worked for them. I don't expect much from 3g, but if I could achieve more than 1MB/s from time to time, that would be nice. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] slvrap1:
I live on N Miami beach, signal is great
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
None... The only one that might speed up at all is bypassing the multimedia proxy.. Otherwise it is purely just the tower you are connecting to.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
I wonder if boost mobile/virgin getting wimax 4G has anything to do with our slow 4g now. Honestly if that is the case I see no reason to keep sprint when for 50 I can get boost with unlimited everything.

Maybe just upcoming 4g lte and hope they don't get it. But I have a feeling since sprint wants them to have 4g and they will fazeout wimax eventually they will...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] air2k57:
I think it just Sprint not caring about WiMax anymore and performance degrading. It is unlikely NV, simply because it isn't really being worked on everywhere yet, since they are going market by market. Like here in CO, we aren't getting LTE anytime soon, nor is NV in progress here, doesn't explain awful speeds. And since IPhone is 3G only, that can't be effecting out WiMax speeds. I used to get 2-7mbps on WiMax at my place, was spotty, but worked. Now, 1mbps on a good day.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] numus:
You do know boost and virgin are both owned by sprint and actually are on the sprint network right?

It has more to do with clearwire than sprint.. the majority of the WiMAX being deployed was by clearwire, in partnership with Sprint.. Well you can google clearwire and see why the wimax is suffering..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jayavarman:
Wimax is operated by Clearwire. But yes, Clearwire is now focused on LTE, though they are still penning wholesale agreements with small providers for distributing 4G Wimax.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CharlieTron666:
FOR GODS SAKE, DONT DO BOOST. worst year of my life. and to throw in an additional .5 cents on this subject, i went from an iphone 4 on at&t, to the evo4g, on sprint. yeah, basically, IF you can get a 4g signal, which is so rare, and short lived if travelling, that its not even worth it, thats the only way youre going to touch a nomal at&t phones 3g. Oh btw, latest speed tests confirmed on average across the nation, t-mobiles 3g, was over a MB per sec faster than sprints 4g. ouch. boom. done. I cant wait to get my gs3 on at&t ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
Yes I know they're both owned by sprint. That is exactly my point. But virgin and boost just recently got 4g access which means even slower wimax for sprint users.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSkylla:
It's been beyond dreadful lately in NYC. I don't know if they're doing upgrades, repairs or what, but it's been really bad. Signal has been non-existent in a lot of major places....I mean it's NYC for pete's sake.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
I have sprint. boost runs on the same network and now has wimax 4g. I have 4g signal in *most* areas I travel to often. So boost would not be any different for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dtr145r:
Be glad your network speeds don't look like mine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffm922:
its ridiculous, Ive been with sprint for about 5 years, im ready to switch (unfortunately just added another line so i have 2 years) i just ran a speed test here in Colorado springs, 98kbps download, upload isn't even worth listing, (tried to upload screenshot but stupid phone wont save it. we USED to have 4g, now its disappeared, Ive used it maybe once, i don't get it, sprint used to be good, now its highly disappointing. Verizon, t mobile, att, i dunno, there are reasons i don't like all 3 of them (besides they are all more expensive for comparable plans) but now im thinking a switch would be worth of it cause of these horrible data speeds Ive been getting. its been months! that's my 2 cents :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] misterzeno:
3G speeds in Houston are very terrible, 4G when i get it is tolerable.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
Once im out of contract, im going to AT&T.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Once again, now on CM9 Alpha 5. I can't believe it actually. Edit..2pm in Manhattan, NYC
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
Wait so these tests you're running are NOT in Whittier CA right? Just making sure because in Downey speed sucks!!

Also, do you have media proxy disabled or left it stock?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] air2k57:
Sad thing is that it isnt one mistake that is making your network suck so bad in most places. I really am losing hope in sprint. Everything they announce is looking pretty good on paper, then they deploy it... or delay it in most cases.

I know that Nv is being rolled out by sprint and not clear, which should help. But even when you compare T-Mobile to sprint, just makes their plan seem weak. You can not force customers on an lte product knowing that the network won't be live till 2014 in most places! And even then it will be spotty till they decommission Nextel.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
Speeds in Denver Co are getting more and more spotty, all the while my friends with T-Mobile are enjoying 10+ MB speeds...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Actually in Whittier I always average 8-10Mbps 4g. I have for the past year basically. I am surprised that speeds are bad in Downey because if I go to La Mirada, La Habra, Fullerton, Santa Fe Springs, Cerritos I always seem to have very good 4g

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ffolkes:
*rant*

Just to chime in, I'm in NJ and my speeds are ridiculous. At all times of the day 3G down is <100mpbs, often times even sinking below 56k dialup modem from 15 years ago. My house is considered to be within "very good" 4G coverage, but I can only get 1 bar, and ONLY while standing outside in the backyard - the front gets zero 4G reception at all. As of recently, my 3G coverage has gone from 2 bars to 0 (but still holds the signal at least). Yes, yes, I know, I got a free Airave, but having a cell phone that's dependent on a landline is comical.

I'm SO tired of listening to Sprint's excuses about their broken service, failed ventures, and about why we should be excited for their upcoming Network Vision, when all it means is in TWO YEARS their network will be somewhat comparable to what every other carrier has TODAY, all the while constantly raising prices and eliminating perks and incentives along the way. I realize for those with business contracts or SERO plans the suffering might be worthwhile, but for your average customer paying full retail, it's insane to stay with Sprint. A few years ago pricing and yearly upgrades were a good argument, but that's gone now. I'm so freaking tired of having to run to a window or go outside a store, just to get any data connection at all.

I guess what really steams me, is how Sprint repeatedly bites off more than they can chew, throwing their existing customers under the bus. Speeds were great in pre-2010, then the Evo4G came along and everything plummeted, literally, that very week. Finally in late 2011 they reinforced their network, speeds were approaching 800+ down again, yay...THEN they released the iPhone, grossly oversaturated their network, and now we're back down to a consistent <100mpbs again.

My ET4G is a great phone, and it will serve me well until my contract expires in a year, and then I'm outta here. I don't care what Sprint has to say, over the past few years they've proven they clearly don't know what they're doing, and I'm so very fed up with their hollow promises.

*/rant*
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Hero_Guy:
http://www.imgur.com/5QzPo.jpg

This is usually what I get everyday for the past few days. The towers near my house were out for about two days and now they're back up. So far it seems they have upgraded the towers near me twice. The first time I got speeds faster than this but then they slowly degraded over time. Hopefully these speeds last

Edit: This is on	3G btw, I doubt get 4G in my area
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffm922:
I may join you :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
I wonder then if :

A: work is being done in Downey and West LA where I work

Or

B: sprint hates me and is throttling my account for the few months I raped their data usage.

I used to get on average 4-6 MB and now 1.5 if I'm lucky

Sent from my SPH-D710 uscqing Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dberend:
I'm actually getting decent speeds in Phoenix today. Usually middle of the night it's the only time I see anything above 300kbps
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] punwik:
3G speeds in dallas suck and 4G is a bigger dissapointment! If LTE doesnt change much then Im thinking about jumping ship as well! My contract is up in september!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSkylla:
That's painful. Mine get low, but not quite that low.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
Im seriuosly thinking about ordering an unlocked nexus...like today, here is my rationale:

current plan = $92 a month

ETF = $50 (my contract states 10 per month, as low as 50)

New Nexus = ~$440 with tax

tmobile plan I want = $30 per month before tax (5gb data, unlimited sms, 100 minutes...I only text, and know how to set up a sip/voip service if need be)

so upfront cost would be ~$550 just to be safe

the difference in plan costs is nearly $60 per month

550/60 = 9.16 month to recoup losses and start actually saving a boatload of money

BUT...I sell my e4gt, i shave ~$200 off that (current going rate on craigslist)

350/60 = 5.83, or less than 6 months to recoup my losses and start paying ~$32 a month instead of $92!!! Plus there is the added benefit of an unlocked phone where I can give tmobile the middle finger at any time and give at&t or smarttalk a whirl.

Plus updates right from google without carrier politics involved. Suddenly sprint seems like a rip off