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[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Damn i just had a long post ready and killed it. Don't wanna type it up all again so here's the short story:

Root no problem. Just do the unlock again, flash Chainfire's SuperUser and then you're set.

Recommended: flash 2,21 RUU not 2.31 to get Radio 1.06s, which is better for Home Button Issue. Pick e.g. Viper or TrickDroid then to have a 2.31 based ROM with the older radio. Those ROM's come pretty much stock and only the Tweaks App does the modifications. If you don't want any, just don't touch the Tweaks. That way you can upgrade to 2.31 while keeping the better radio.

As for running a RUU: please bear in mind that a RUU will kill all personal data, even on SD i think (not sure, forgot). Better back up your Girlfriends nude shots first...
[HTC One S] Bomberkun:
Ok I will try cooked ROMs, I hope that using one of these can change independently the radio to avoid install apps constantly... well, I'll check. Can't have everything, stock ROM, last updates, correct fails, too much. Of course, gf nudity first! :laugh: I just hope won't break the phone to half on a attack of rage :fingers-crossed:

Thanks again and sorry for dead post, always happens hehe.
[HTC One S] stupot123:
Hello

I am all new to this all I know is the Home Screen Problem is driving me mad.

Sneakyghost

I was looking at your dropbox can I use the RUU 2.21 with radio 1.06e all I have to do is connect to PC and run exe.?

my other question can I then wait for th e2.31 update and keep the same radio? does it work that way.

Just want to improve the Problem for the meantime.

Thanks
[HTC One S] sirward:
Here I am back with yet another update: as I posted here two days ago, the One S received a new display module on second attempt to repair it. Unfortunately it didn't help much since we had the touch button issue back, and it was pretty damn hard too.

So for now I can only say that a new display module did not fix it. Contacting HTC again I guess..
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
No. OTA works like a RUU. If you run the OTA on 2.21 it will also upgrade your Radio. That's why i said do the 2.21 and then go for a custom 2.31 ROM if you want to keep the old radio.
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Thanks for reporting. Good to know. For some it did help though.
[HTC One S] markeemark:
Just to add my report, upgraded to 4.04 just now. Had the homescreen bug within10 minutes of installation. Can't report on severity/frequency yet tho
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Thanks mate.

I had that experience too.

Now I killed my and my wife's phones sd-card with some really stupid actions (still didn't find out the exact reason for the brick but I believe it had to do with twrp recovery and some bad formatting done through mini tool and the famous SDA sdformatter).

After having regained sd-mount I have now installed radio 1.06es again because I have the feeling that my original judgement (that radio being worse than the older one) might actually be wrong and due to no proper cleaning of the phone in between flashes.

We all know how extremely sensitive android phones are for data fragment leftovers. So after wiping and reinstalling stuff for two days now (in order to get my sdcard back) I was finally successful and believe it or not my phone only shows faint traces of the home button issue now with a 2.31 based ROM, a 2.31 based kernel (drivers!!) And the latest 2.31 based radio 1.06es.

I am very closely observing every twitch and hiccup my phone does now. Be sure to hear from me as soon as something happens.

The longer my silence the better the experience...

Feel The Viper! :D
[HTC One S] sirward:
So I just got an answer from HTC on my question to take the device back again, for the thirth time, to fix it. But now they don't want to anymore. I must set the device in GSM only since that will be the only way the device will work.

I didn't buy a 500 euros+ smartphone in 2012 that won't do 3G or is not usable... (for what it's worth, yet another update)
[HTC One S] markeemark:
Don't know what your consumer laws are but your device is not fit for purpose and you should have the right to refund or replacement what you have been told is unacceptable.

Update on my experience since firmware update 5 hours ago... The phone has been fitting more than ever and seems more sensitive to the problem than before. Bombed me out of typing this message 4 times. Sneaky if you have success HTC should offer you a job!
[HTC One S] gibarian:
This is utterly revolting!

I fixed my old HTC Hero today (touchscreen was malfunctioning, replaced it with a new one, cost me a few bucks on Ebay) so I can switch to it when the One S becomes unusable... That's my workaround... It's just appalling...

Please people, join our action (see signature), or come up with a better idea to make HTC fix this...
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Mate, read my previous reply. I am not sure if you had done that already but i really recommend killing all bits and bytes on the phone before upgrading. The build-in Android functions are not suitable. If i where you, i'd opt for nulling out the SD-Card using EASUS or MiniTool. The only problem is that you might lose the mount points for the SD card, which will give you something like an SD Brick.

But if you then manage to get the card online again (flash stock recovery again, clear storage from hboot, if it still doesn't mount in android, connect to PC, assign a drive letter with the above tools, reboot to hboot again, then clear storage again and then flash the latest RUU) you will most likely experience a better result than just flashing the OTA or RUU on top of the existing software.

Just my two cents.

[EDIT]

There's someone on Android-Hilfe.de who had a comparable interference based issue on the old SDA. It was unfixable in Software. yet the main reason was aging shielding material that lost its connectivity due to oxidation over time. He seems to have good electronical knowledge and said he could fix it himself back then by replacing materials.

Since our Issue seems rather not due to aging (look at the totally random behaviour on older and newer devices) i don't think it can be fixed by material replacement. Someone mentioned this as a possible reason already way back on this thread but can't remember who and i still think its not that but rather some part that is not correctly seated and thus causing totally different Transmission Output on the devices. Or shielding that has not been put in place correctly. Or some lose grounding connections. There is lots of possible causes that have nothing to do with aging.

However, the summary is as usual: A software fix is possible (thats what HTC Elevate mod Jason Dunn claimed towards me back then) but it looks less and less likely the longer this continues.

Every update HTC releases seems to be some desperate try to work around it.

I even doubt by now that it can be managed by adjusting the debounce rate (what i originally thought should easily be possible).
[HTC One S] morphen:
I've had the homebutton issue for some time now, irritating to say the least.

I've used a exact fit rubbery "bodyskin" to give the device a better grip ever since i bought it. Yesterday,I exchanged that for a pvc hardshell that does not cover the bottom or the top.

Well...since doing that, I have had NO problems at all. Go figure, my problem was pretty bad, every time i used the phone it happened.

Sn: ht23xxxx

Rom: stock 2.31 rooted

Operator: talkmore(norway)
[HTC One S] Bomberkun:
Finally flash 2.31 and I'm testing it, the problem persists but less, before was so hard use the cell sometimes. Well I will wait for the Billy update...

Thanks to tell the experience sending the cell, seeing this I don't send to repair for the moment.

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I use sometimes a silicon case and I thought the problem cause it because make more static, but today it happens without cases and this must be affect to all buttons, I don't know what think, but maybe...
[HTC One S] chris_h16:
Update 4.0.4 seems to be fixed now

I have just installed the update and it seems to have fixed the home screen problems/button so far, so fingers crossed.

My versions now are: Android 4.0.4, HTC Sense 4.1, Software 2.38.206.2, Kernal 3.0.8-01583-g091cc31,Baseband 1.08es.50.02.16_10.09b.50.04L, Build 2.38.206.2 CL97613 release-keys
[HTC One S] opiswahn:
For some people the 2.38 fixed the issue, for most it lessens the issue a lot.
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
On android-hilfe.de is a user with a brand new device with a serial FA28 which indicates manufacture in August and a new plant (FA) which I haven't seen yet.

That device is an S4.

This indicates two things: the issue is still not under control even in the latest batch and secondly, the S4 seems to still be in production, which is nice.

I'm just investigating a new carrier which uses a different network and offers the one s for a 100 euros. I might swap out my and my wife's contracts, sell our phones and get new ones. If that happens to fix my issue I will still remain active here but probably not be able to share my own experiences anymore.

Feel The Viper! :D
[HTC One S] Bomberkun:
May be good news...
[HTC One S] opiswahn:
Which carrier will that be??
[HTC One S] Will972:
I got a curious idea in my head .. personnaly i got this issue when i got "E" icon .. how many people have same issue .. i mean when exactly the issue appear? For me it's when i got "E" icon .. so maybe if i delete the icon in systemUI.apk and recompile it it will do something. Maybe my idea is totally wrong but if we don't try we will never know .. ;).. for other people who got issue with another icon , i mean poor signal (not 3g) try delete this icon.. don't know if the idea can fix something but give a try is an idea :)
[HTC One S] v:
Just for the record:

I recently upgraded to 4.0.4 OTA and had my first Home Button Issue.

The device was on 1.78 and fine for 2 months.

Regards,

v

PS: Is there an easy way back without having to reinstall all my apps and data?
[HTC One S] PuffPan:
Hi there.

I'm havin the same problem since i made the 4.0.4 OTA update and it's getting more worse each day. Already posted my data in the spreadsheet.

My data from the cell:

Germany, carrier is Simyo (E-Plus)

One S, grey, Android 4.0.4

SH24 (92x)

2.31	(75x)

1.06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L

Already send a mail to HTC, so far no answer.

Greetings and hoping like all, to get the problem solved.
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
1&1 with D-Net. Which is Telekom Deutschland basically. But i have already seen that quite a few users have the Issue on that one too. But still i need to swap carriers for multiple reasons. O2 is just way off the tracks by now with their pricing. Their coverage is like total sh1t in most places by now as well.

I have been with them more than 7 years by now, think it must be like 8 or 9 actually. I began using them when they where still Viag Interkom and had briliant coverage through their partnership with Telekom. I should have changed the day they stopped using the network from Telekom. Ever since Telefonica bought them from British Telecom their prices have soared up into the O2 Blue Sky.

To be honest, i was just too lazy to swap to another carrier and i loved the Home Zone option which they are phasing out now too. I still have it but new customers wont get it anymore.

well.. bit off-topic but this bothers me a lot recently particularly because i paid nearly 200 euros last month pure connection fees.
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Are you kidding? Mate whats wrong with your neural connections? I mean, go ahead and try but that is soooo absolutely off the rail that i wonder what makes you believe this could have anything at all ever to do with proven GSM Frequency interference?

The only explanation for your absurd suggestion i could find is that you have no technical understanding whatsoever and are very naive plus didn't read much of this thread.

Sorry i absolutely don't mean to be rude or hurt you but i have rarely ever heard such an absurd suggestion. We have more than one proof here that we are dealing with an interference problem and an icon is just an icon and has so nothing to do with electricity.

But then again mate, i have had other occasions in my life where the most logical explanations where found to be wrong and the most absurd explanations suddenly became very logical looking at the matter from a different perspective. So i have learned that we tend to be blind sometimes when we believe in one thing too much. So, please feel free to experiment with the icons and let us know your results. But be sure to have me laugh at you when you find out you where wrong. I can be quite a Troll at times ;)
[HTC One S] opiswahn:
Same reason i changed to congstar last month ;) Was a longtime o2 customer(11 years i think) but they were unwilling to give me a contract equal to their competitors. The fallback to the D1 network was brilliant. But, nothing good last forever ;)
[HTC One S] stupot123:
Hi All

I decided to update to 2.31 and guess what HBP is back as bad as ever after 10 minutes. On Edge and Wifi. :crying::crying:
[HTC One S] gibarian:
Aaaah... Occam's razor in its purest form!

Issue happens when "E" icon appears -> Remove icon and issue is solved

Me like! To support this theory and not jinx it, I won't use any more "e" letters in the rest of this post!

Oh man, wouldn't it b* wonderful if it was that simpl*?

Imagin*: a warning light go*s on in your car and th* *ngin* stops -> Fix: you rip out th* warning light and off you go! Fantastic! :)

B*tt*r: you "los*" your moth*r-in-law's pictur* and "Puff!": sh*'s gon*! LOV* IT! :)

I so much wish you w*r* right man... but don't b* mad at m* if I hon*stly don't think you ar*... Sorry!

...but it's always r*fr*shing to hav* somebody com* up with a n*w id*a, no matt*r how w*ird it may b*!

Anyway, if your id*a r*ally works, you ar* w*lcom* to hav* a good long laugh at m*: I'll tak* it! ;)
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
I'd suggest to go the way i described with really rough wiping everything. It is dangerous and it killed my SD but now i don't have the issue anymore whereas the same Update (i ran 2.31 like 10 times or even more already) never helped before and made it even worse.
[HTC One S] PuffPan:
Good evening,

got an answer from HTC support:

Translated (with my school entglish):
[HTC One S] markeemark:
after installing the 4.0.4 OTA update my phone took fits more than ever before. Finally took the leap of faith and let HTC take it away for repair. (they are also going to sort the chipped casing). Anybody know what they will do to fix it? Anybody had this problem and had it fixed by HTC???
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
No we dont actually know what they do but apparently most of the times they just reflash software.

Some like Lamyron who i keep remembering because of the odd repair letter he had, got a new bottom cover. MattiOnline too i think. But most of the times they just do a RUU thing.

Apparently T-Mobile now released their OTA too. Its some 2.35 apparently and got a Radio 1.08ts which must be the same as the Vodafone but for Tmobile ("ts" instead of "es").

@ALL:

Tecardo wants to know for his trials who is on the 2.31 RUU and can see or not see the issue anymore? Please not the ones running a ROM based on that RUU but those who actually run STOCK 2.31?

Reason: after i killed my SD last week and wiped everything i cannot force the issue to come back at all, not with the paper trick, not in bad reception areas, not in call, not ever. I think the total wipeout made sure the new RUU flashed clean and thus a possible fix can work better. Tecardo wants to know if others have similar experiences or totally opposite. Please state how you did the RUU (just ran it normally or did some wiping, unlock yes/no etc.)
[HTC One S] zulmaslet:
I still have the home button glitching problem and atm i refuse to flash it till the problem is solved so atm i'm working with the Stock ROM 2.31 ( 2.31.401.5 )
[HTC One S] gibarian:
Same thing exactly
[HTC One S] opiswahn:
OTA 2.38 from Vadaphone 2 weeks ago. Just installed, nothing else.

No homebutton issue since, no back to homescreen or whatsoever. Just once the buttonbar got locked(2 days ago), but that was when i turned all wireless devices active(bluetooth, wifi, gps and cell) in a bad reception zone to force the issue. I got the buttonbar-issue once, but not again, even if i tried to reproduce it under the same circumsances.

If it stays that way i can live with it.
[HTC One S] Phuturist:
Did the radio change with this OTA 2.38?
[HTC One S] opiswahn:
1.08es.50.02.21_10.09c.50.04L. I think this is the same as the 1.06es, just braded as vodaphone radio. (Like 1.08ts is the tmo radio). But maybe there are some changes to the stock 1.06es radio, i dont't know.

**EDIT**

Well, i looked at the stock radio numbers, they are 1.06es.50.02.31_xxx, where mine is 2.21.
[HTC One S] mzx0918:
I have sent this thread and to some Chinese forum. There are thousands people suffer from this issue....
[HTC One S] sirward:
Hi all,

I just received a phone call from HTC Benelux, asking me to give some more information about the software versions running on my device. Too bad I have send to phone for a 3th repair, this time trough the shop I bought the device at (Fnac).

He told me that the problem has been fixed with update 2.31 though yesterday he already received an other call from someone in Belgium too that his device was still not fixed with the new update.

He also told me that they are aware about this topic. So in theory they should have all the information now that is available here.

As far as I could understand: if the problem still exists on my phone after the 3th repair, they will escalate the problem again to HTC, though I assume (and hope) they will do the same when others report this problem again on new softwareversions.

I think that for HTC the case is closed, unless more reports are coming in about the touch button issue.
[HTC One S] Lamyron:
Yesterday the Home Button Bug come back. But this time it was really heavy, I can't do anything... Only wait it stops. If I try to hit the on/off button the phone makes 20 Screenshots. But after 10 minutes it was okay again. :confused:

I realized that I haven't a network connection when the bug is starting??? :confused:

gesendet von meinem Viper One S
[HTC One S] hamzeh17:
hi there

i have the same problem .

its drive me crazy ....

what should i do about it?!

there is no s-off and no update that can fix this issue ....

i'm in iran and unfortunaly i can't reach the htc support in person ....... so all of you, in any other country .. try to reach them and show them this theard and issue ...

my device is:

HTC One S

S4

2.31 [last update]
[HTC One S] v:
GSM alone (with disabled Network) can trigger the bug, as I know from own experience.

Regards,

v
[HTC One S] gibarian:
Thanks mate, good call!

Please also ask them to join our little information campaign (see my signature): the more support we get, the more impact the action will have

:)

---------- Post added at 05:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:25 PM ----------

There's nothing really working to fix this yet. SneakyGhost suggested zeroing the SD and reinstalling the 2.31 RUU... but it is quite a challenge, as he explained in some posts a few pages back. I'm not as technical as he is, so I'm not gonna do this, but you are welcome to try if you dare...

My plan is to actually "motivate" HTC into fixing the issue: it's their job and their obligation!

That's why I started a communication campaign, and I hope you (and all the other users who experience this issue) will join the effort.

Please check my signature below and read my thread.

Thanks!
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Jason Dunn of HTC Elevate just let me know that he is asking for an official statement towards the Issue, Progress and Solution at the headquarters for me to share here on XDA.

If he gets that text, I will post it here and on Gibarians thread once it becomes available. It might be though hat HTC is publishing that information on their own social media sites first (i believe) so you might want to watch their stuff there too.

It's all pretty vague and decorated with some "Ifs" and "Maybes" so don't expect too much. "Maybe" there will be nothing again just like the past few month.

I am not happy.
[HTC One S] flex420:
this is so ****ed up ... wrote to HTC support today ... hope to get an answer soon
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Please insist on a repair or exchange. Please do not let them make you wait for an update. Please make sure to report back here if Support refuses Repair or Exchange. Let us know. Thank you.
[HTC One S] ultimateb:
I've called HTC twice now in the last 2 months and both times they just say, we don't know what the problem is, we can't do anything. The engineers are working on it, please be patient. Think im done with that now though. Going crazy with this home button problem.
[HTC One S] corbie:
My phone is 2nd time in repair center. I sent it back next day after phone returned not fixed. That was 07 September. It's over 1,5 month all together without phone. I lost hope that they ever find solution for this problem. This time i wrapped phone with note, with all important information's founded here. Maybe this prevent situations when they did only basic RUU update to one of the most affected software versions.

I'm afraid that when i get my phone back, I would have to send it again. This time without phone really drives me crazy.
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
I don't think so. There have been considerable user experience differences on the forums. It must be different.

Everyone:

Check out this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32176833&postcount=73
[HTC One S] guigz2000:
hello....

I had nearly the same experience as sneakyghost..when i flashed the 2.21 ruu,phone was nearly bricked and i had wiped all the sdcard..(can't remember well,but i easily remember how i felt when i thought my phone was dead)...now my phone is working and it was 2 months ago...
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Please be precise. You wiped the card using quick format (deleting only file tables) or did you use some tool to zero out every bit of the chip? Like slow format (not available on phone, only possible with computer)?

Morons for the win!
[HTC One S] stupot123:
Hi All

Well

I done a reset and I thought it might help, The home button has got worse over the last few day, It Funny it always happens to me when I am using wifi in the house as my gsm signal is not great. Does not happen as much on edge maybe because I use Wifi more. Most of the time using wifi the buttons freeze thats it.. Then I have to lock the phone and unlock again.

Any How been on to HTC and they have agreed to send it in for repair.

A question should I print parts of this forum as reference along with my own description of the problem, Is it worth doing that or now or will they just ignore it.

Stu
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
Not necessary, HTC is having the forum sent to their tech people from Jason Dunn. At least he told me that he sent it over.

And the repair shops should be aware too.

I just need to know if HTC is still refusing repair as they shouldn't. They are supposed to accept this issue for repair or replacement now.

Morons for the win!
[HTC One S] Rapier:
Sorry to bug in...I intend to purchase an HTC One S and I've just discovered this issue. I didn't read all of this thread but I've read the OP and some other threads.

I don't get the point...Why matters if HCT (or the seller) will accept to replace/repair the phone or not? The new replaced one will not suffer from the same thing? Do they have newer built One S that doesn't have this issue?

Sorry if it was asked before but for me, going through all the mess of sending back to repair a phone in warranty, just to end up with another one that has the same issue, doesn't make any sense. They will check it and return saying they couldn't reproduce the problem (cause the signal is full in that area I bet). So there will be a couple of days without phone and returned to me in the same condition. Don't think they'll actually accept and replace it

Using the workaround provided in OP (to disable Home button) should be ok for using it?