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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] long_tall_texan:
I opened up a service ticket with Sprint regarding the lack of 4G in the "Orange" area of the map for both my home address in Mansfield, and my work address in Fort Worth. They have actually followed up with me twice on the incident, and seem to be actively working on it. For both addresses, they show that there is a live 4G LTE tower within 1/2 mile of each address and no reason that I should not be getting consistent LTE service. I explained that I can force to LTE, but then it kicks me off. They are sending a network tech to the towers to check them out and then will get back to me. We will see....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
Same thing I am working on internally. In testing an s3, viper and evo none pick up and hold the lte connection. The evo is the only one of the three that offers forced lte only...and the only one I can hold connection on by doing so.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logamus:
L_t_t you might be in line for a new phone. I was having signal issues and they replaced my phone. I still am not getting 4g everywhere I should be, but my voice quality is much improved.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Gravy Train:
My daily commute takes me from The Colony to Irving, near 161 @ MacArthur. I have yet to see LTE on my drive and I've only seen one LTE sign-on that lasted maybe 10 seconds before it dropped off.

What's going on here? Between this and the blunders of HTC Sense, I'm ready to give the phone back to Sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kanes_Inferno:
Got the phone today and LTE is up in my part of Lewisville. Outside I get between 21 and 32 down and inside my apartment I get around 6 to 8 down (which is faster than my wifi).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zisix:
I had LTE on my drive again this morning in the same place, they are the top two results.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ptrd:
So yeah looks like it's getting better. I noticed a speed increase today at work (addison). Still no signal on ground floor outside but up on the 8th floor I get it. Now only if I got it near north park (home)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 4Genie:
I'm the 4Genie

I'm in Irving near loop 12 and 183 and noticed a 4G would appear then disappear. So I went into the Testing (via dialer) and set it to LTE only. It stayed at 3G, but suddenly the 4genie appeared. I have a really strong signal, but my phone chooses 3G automatically unless I force 4G. :good:

Does anyone know why?

Is there an easier way (ie... toggle, app?) to enter testing mode besides entering *#*#4636#*#*?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cuppeerr:
It's because the phone wants to use the better signal. And for now until the network gets more established the preferred signal will be 3g, that is unless you force it to connect to lte:)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dj_idol:
Tested the speeds outside of my apartment today, much faster.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baldben:
I think I saw somewhere else that there was an app that allowed easy switching to lte only, but I can't find it. Anyone know it?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00dahc:
I somehow got up to 2 bars of signal on 3G in Seattle today! Almost got 300kbps down and 150kbps up.

Amazing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] long_tall_texan:
It is called Network by Philipp Mangelow. Linkity-Link-Link-Link
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cuppeerr:
*#*#4636#*#* then phone information, then set prefered network type, then lte only :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] atlgator:
Doesn't reliably work and futzing with it could lose your ability to roam automatically. Use at own risk.

There isn't steady LTE anywhere as far as I can tell. May be months.

Vzw, my DROID 4 has never lost lte signal where available, most anywhere I go.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
The part that screws up roaming is changing radio bands,

Not preferred network mode.

Network mode converts at reboot back to cdma lte evdo

In my testing throught McKinney it gets better every day. Doing an rf test on my phone just to be safe tho
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Razgriz:
The only place I've been able to get LTE here around McKinney was at Walmart at 380 and Custer.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ms79723:
Strong 4G where I live. Going down beltline and it is LIVE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baldben:
4G confirmed @ Forest and Greenville.

So I played around with lte only and still picked up 3G for some reason. Switching to lte, cdma gave me 4G for the first time ever here at my house. Connection spotty, but the one Speedtest that finished gave 2.6 down and 1 up with 75 ping. I'm encouraged by the progress around Dallas so far.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
I have been getting it at 380 and bridgefarmer, airport and old mill and Eldorado and 75 . Also along 5 from the golf course to exchange in Allen.

Bridgefarmer and 380
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pdelacr2:
Hey,

I'm having the same type of issues in the Houston area. Check out the conversation I had with the highest escalation rep sprint has has. Sprint says 4G is free and can't not guarantee any service at all http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29587598&postcount=37
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] loujennings4:
For some reason I only get 4g here in Grand Prairie on Saturdays and it isn't even all that fast
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logamus:
I did this today and I got 30 minutes of lte in my living room where I had never had it before. Then it went away and I had 3g despite not changing the setting or power cycling. Go figure.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xclusivx:
i tried out a Galaxy S3 for a week and was able to get 4G at 121/Main, 121/Legacy, and 121/Watters. Since switching back to my Evo, I havent been able to get a 4G signal anywhere! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
Just means they prolly switched it back off. Several areas I have been testing are on one day off the next
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baldben:
Yeah, the LTE has been off and on here, and the EVDO hasn't worked in over 24 hours. Obvious that work is going on. The 4G does seem to be getting faster when I'm able to test though. Went up from max of 2.5 down yesterday to 5.5 today.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gmangut:
It's almost there my 4g drops off right after the Dallas tollway...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logamus:
I reforced back to lte only at my mom's house and this is my speed test. Keep in mind I was only getting 3g until I forced.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] buzzwyzr:
Near Mesquite on Military Pkwy.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logamus:
Wow that's awesome!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Razgriz:
Was stopping at QuikTrip on 121 & Stacy last night and got this for the first time.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dito33:
Wow they made a tower just for you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zisix:
The test at 5:15 today was at the corner of Renner & Jupiter in Richardson.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logamus:
Fist pic is from chipotle on hwy 26 near precinct line in North Richland Hills. Second is just down the street at 26 and Harwood.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
Its spreading.

Getting a flicker of lte inside and in the back yard.

From testing out here in bfe it looks like the tower was turned on last week, then tweaked continuously (no other towers out here) because its coverage area keeps growing
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AB33:
Man, I was just sick of the DFW LTE teasing and Sprint creeping up on their bills with the new insurance and the $10 per line 4G charge even if you don't have it. This all made Tmobile cheaper now so I decided to jump ship with my 3 lines and get a GS3 while I was out of town and realized how horrible not having my extra batteries was, even with the portable charger. It also sucked that LTE was non existent in the parts of the country I was in and wouldn't be for a while. The HSPA+ has been as high as 18 mbps and avgs 8 mbps, That's all I need. This whole fiasco has been a big FAIL by Sprint with the network and HTC with the non removable battery. I just couldn't wait until 2013. My apologies if I am offending anyone for posting here. I just wanted to see if the DFW lit up yet. So much for being a 12 yr Sprint customer.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbzilla:
I wish I could shoot anyone still *****ing about the $10 fee. Seriously, drop it. That horse was dead in 2011, and now it's bloated, stinking, and has floated down the river where it's poisoned a small city.

Bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. This forum is for productive comments.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AB33:
You shouldn't use terms like shooting people lightly. Where I grew up people shoot and kill people at a high rate (Philly) and I know many a shooter and those that have been shot and killed. Luckily I did not get caught up in that and made it out. I really don't believe you are about that life Sir so keep it cool and don't promote violence. I appreciate you voicing your displeasure.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Gravy Train:
Subtle "I grew up in the ghetto" reply. LOL, figurative speech has little to do with actually promoting violence.

Glad you got out of it and are keeping your head up but DFW is full.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Master_sk3:
How does the battery perform, is it holding up?

IN BRIGHTEST DAY IN DARKEST NIGHT, NO APPLE GENIUS WILL WIN THIS FIGHT, LET THOSE WHO WORSHIP iOS's MIGHT BEWARE THE INNOVATION, GOOGLES MIGHT.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AB33:
Battery life seems about equal so far, it also seems like the GS3 charges faster. The Evo LTE camera and picture management is better though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] shockwaveaz:
What?! There is a $10 fee? For what... Ripp off

Sent from my eVo LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
New replacement phone is connecting to lte without being forced

Prolly coincidence
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pdelacr2:
Is it connecting constantly?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
In some places yes, others no.

It's so hard to tell where it "should be" connecting
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 7eventy5:
found an active lte site in NORTH Frisco, and I mean really north. I picked it up on 380 between 423 and the tollway... what i loved was that the ONLY thing out there beside cows and corn fields is a uhaul storage center... really?!?!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
Looks like they started out and are working their way in.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baldben:
Still getting lte around Forest and Greenville but I have to force and speeds are only 3 down/1 up.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbzilla:
Pioneer and 360 worked after fiddling with the radio settings
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
I don't get **** in south irving. Havnt tested in upper las colinas. Got some in arlington tho.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] parmend:
I just got my LTE replaced with a refurbished phone I'm guessing . It has been awesome . 3g dosent drop anymore LTE seems to pop up more often. Just seems more stable than before .
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Gravy Train:
The tower near the 635/190 crossover is strong enough to get LTE on the highway for a mile or so.

Attached is a screencap of my latest speed tests. The top result is my home cable connection (Time Warner 20Mbps). The next three LTE results are from inside the east Lewisville Target, south of The Colony. The other results are obtained while driving east on Sam Rayburn near the Dallas North Tollway in Frisco.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Master_sk3:
You guys are so lucky. Theres isnt even a hint on Network Vision in New Jersey. I know that were scheduled for second round but it feels like im waiting for water to boil.

At lease when we do get LTE itll be unlimited data.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chinchillables:
I was in a medical district of Mansfield, Texas the other week and find them to have 4G which was very interesting. Downloading a 15MB file in 5 seconds us very life changing. It was faster than when I use WiFi at home.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logamus:
I just got home and saw my 4g was on so I did a speed test. Wow.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logamus:
Ok now this one is from roughly the same part of the house just downstairs. Pretty big gap, however, a week ago I didn't even get 4g downstairs.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zisix:
For the last few weeks, I've noticed areas driving around my neighborhood where I have 6 bars of service, but no data. Tonight, it looks like a new tower popped on sometime today. I rebooted my phone a few minutes ago and noticed the 4G icon before it connected to my WiFi.

Near Telecom & Breckenridge in Richardson.

EDIT: I checked my Wife's phone; it connects to 4G, but it drops within a minute. I haven't gotten a speed test to complete on it. Whereas mine hasn't dropped once in the last 30 minutes, anywhere in the house.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zisix:
I ran some more tests this morning with the new radio software from the OTA yesterday.

When I'm really close to the tower, speeds are killer (I was about 150 yards away for those at the top). Further away, speeds were as they have been the last few weeks.

Though, it does seem like the phone doesn't want to switch to 4G as easily this morning. I had to toggle Airplane Mode when I was further away from the tower to connect. But, it's a new build-out, so it may be the tower instead of my phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gmangut:
Oh garland tx how I dislike thee 4g everywhere I've been..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Recoil737:
Live up in the Flower Mound area and it has been spotty at best. Even the 3G fluctuates from 3 bars to nothing in a blink of an eye. They must still be doing a lot of maintenance to the towers around here.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ptrd:
It's getting better. At work in Addison I was only able to get lte on the higher floors. Now there are parts ground level I can get it. I thought I almost got some at home in North park area but it quickly went away.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pbarrett:
For me, the latest OTA, plus updating my PRL and Profile helped with getting LTE.

Before, my wife's Galaxy Nexus would have LTE but my EVO wouldn't from the same spot.

Just got it for the 1st time yesterday along 190 near Custer.

Now if they'd just update more towers. Following the progress on S4GRU it seems like nothing's changed for a month.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
It has...about 5 towers a week.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leerage:
Dude I'd be happy with 10 down. As long as it is unlimited ... who cares.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xenokc:
Yeah, what app needs more than 4Mbps anyway? Unlimited has more value. The ping time is also great, which will have more impact on app/web browsing performance than more Mbps.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
I wonder if Kansas City has LTE yet since it is also on the first round?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leerage:
There is LTE up in KC but Sprint is blocking it right now for some reason.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
Why would they do that? We payed for a 4G LTE phone and if it's available, we should be able to use it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] massivebasset:
Ive got nothing so far in Richardson/Garland area, just outside of 635 :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] regalpimpin:
I haven't seen any 4g signal in KC yet. Hoping its early.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leerage:
For one reason or another, that is what Sprint is doing. You can find a lot more info about it over at www.s4gru.com .... I understand where you are coming from about buying a 4G LTE phone ... but they apparently just aren't letting access on the 4G network right now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] david279:
Its still in testing phase.....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PaulHBK:
Austin was added to the first round not to long ago. I just have to find the link from S4GRU... Here it is

www.s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-141-yeehaw-austin-is-moving-up-to-the-first-round-of-sprint-network-visionlte-deployment-with-some-sites-already-live/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] aliwho:
Yup. Network vision and LTE should be halfway there (and fully live) by July, and finished by October.

Can't wait~.

I just need the dang phone now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] atlgator:
It isn't live in Atlanta yet...

...that's for sure. I live 3 miles due east of downtown and get 2 bars 3G in my wood frame Folk Victorian home

Driving around Perimeter and 400 area this morning, a busy metro Atlanta area, the Maps app crashed twice while doing a location search. I blamed that on Sprint data throughput of about 50 kpbs/down at time of failure.

Had to pull over and pull out my corporate Droid 4 on VZW from my briefcase- LTE everywhere I go and it pulled up the address immediately.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] grad20_09:
S4GRU says it's part of of the first round of deployment, but did not say they were going live 1H of 2012 (Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio).

Could it? sure. Anything could happen. Until Sprint officially says so I wouldn't put anything behind it.

EDIT: here is OFFICIAL SPRINT announcements:

Houston, Atlanta, San Antonio, Dallas (1H 2012)

http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=2157

and their second announcement adding baltimore and kansas city (mid-2012)

http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=2180
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] twigs187:
It's close to a third of the speed of it's competitors. Don't get me wrong, it's nice, but could be a lot better.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jess813:
Same here...same area and nothing....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] grad20_09:
I got 35mbps when they had lte testing up in houston, but assuming with network load i get ~10mbps, that's at least ~33.3x the performance I get out of the 3g network on a GOOD DAY. I'll take it. I pay less with sprint anyways AND I get unlimited data.

What's the use of faster date if you use it all up in less than a day? cha-ching cha-ching $$$

EDIT: I rarely go above 4GB a month, but I have occasionally. It's more of the not having to worry about it or track it. In addition, 10mbps is faster than almost all DSL connections. What more can you ask for from a wireless connection.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] slayer69:
Ignored FTW!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jayavarman:
My standards are even lower. I would be content with 4-5 Mbps, wide coverage, low ping, and unlimited data. :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] iamkoza:
I agree with the last few posters, anything consistently over 5mbps where I don't even have to think about whether it is working or not is all I want.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
This
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xenokc:
Here's one someone posted elsewhere outside Chicago, over 40Mbps...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ryno_666:
What this is awesome I'm in the dfw metroplex also but I'm not finding it anywhere
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xenokc:
This was posted outside Atlanta.. nice low ping...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] twigs187:
See, now that's what I'm talking about...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Master_sk3:
No luck in the Northern NJ/NYC area. I believe im in the second round July - October time frame. You guys are lucky.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digitalshadow:
I'm noticing the same problem in Houston.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 2k4mach:
Yeah I'm blazing at cool 29k right now along with getting duplicate txts since around 10 this morning. Called sprint up and they wanted me to do a battery pull and restart the phone lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] grad20_09:
I called in to complain because i could not keep a constant 3g connection. they said there weren't any other notes on the area, so i requested a note be made. In the event that the tower is just malfunctioning? lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] phistyle:
I live near North park mall by 75....is lte live here yet...my 3g sucks here
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] armageddon1024:
Those pics sure look promising! Sprint, can you give some love to Portland, Oregon now please!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] verusevo:
Not really impressed by the Down speeds in the teens. Here in certain parts of NYC I was able to get 10mbps down with WiMAX. Hope it gets better than that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] atlgator:
Sitting on top of a Wimax tower, maybe

All over Atlanta with my short-lived Photon affair, never did much better than 2-3 MB down on that battery hogging, IP-address-seeking network.

On VZE LTE at 700 Mhz in Atlanta, I usually get 14-18 mb down on the Droid 4. With the EVO LTE as my personal device, I get 110-700 kbps down on 3g (sometimes 50 kbps) and would be delighted with something 10X greater or more.

Teens down on any LTE network is tremendous speed. Unless you sleep under a tower you shouldn't expect more.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BioEX4:
I hope Albany, NY gets LTE. I had to live the whole 2 year life of my evo 4g without ever getting to use 4g. They need to stop focusing on southern states lol

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G running ICS CM9
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leerage:
With the implementation Sprint has done, I don't believe anything over 35mbps down is possible.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] shmallow:
How have you guys even connected to 4G? I mean, not because its not live in most places, but I haven't found the "4G button" anywhere. Unlike the original Evo, there is no 4G widget, and pressing the button under 4G settings does nothing. Does it automatically connect to 4G if available?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
Yea there is not toggle..in settings u can choose cdma and LTE or just cdma.. so Im guessing it just connects if its available if u have it on the LTE option
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ryno_666:
Wasn't there When I past by at noon been checking all over city.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bballer71418:
Everyone getting LTE, is it just picking up signal? I live in Houston and don't have anything. Maybe its off again..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] grad20_09:
When Sprint says LTE is on, LTE will be on. Until then it is off unless you coincidentally stumble onto a testing site that they have open.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cuppeerr:
Got 2 bars of lte signal in colleyville and got 976 kilobytes a sec download and 350 kilobytes upload!:)

Well I'm happy here's a pic:)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Vancer:
No such luck on the Fort Worth side of town yet :( ... 35W & just north of 820 (Fossil Creek area)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] variance:
...you're wrong.

Higher frequency = More bandwidth. More speed. Signal Goes Further from a tower.

Lower Frequency = Less bandwidth. More Signal Penetration into a building. Requires more towers placed closer together.

Wimax (as sprint and clearwire utilize it) is like at 2100mhz or 2500mhz (I forget... one of those is AWS. one of those is wimax) which is why it doesnt penetrate into buildings for ****.

Verizon is owns a fair chunk of 700mhz which is why they do. but their bandwidth for that given frequency is limited and they have to place more towers which usually doesn't matter because Verizon is fortunate enough to usually own or have infrastructure in place for backhaul to their towers. (Verizon FIOS)

Sprint is going to end up having two LTE bands. 800mhz and 1900mhz that way they get to have the best of both worlds. They will probably use wimax internally to distribute backhaul efficiently between towers that can't get optimal backhaul. As their new towers are meant for this and to be able to "distribute or leverage bandwidth to help balance traffic. (ex: two towers have good fiber backhauls. others are on T1 or some such but get additional bandwidth sent over wimax or something and then relay that traffic to you via CDMA/LTE).

This allows sprint to be more flexible and cost efficient as it doesn't have the luxury of having as much easily available fiber backhaul as Verizon but at the same time still be able to keep Unlimited Data because of the higher capacity bandwidth in it's 1900mhz LTE band and the flexibility of the hardware in its new towers... of course this all predicates that they maintain sufficient backhaul

within their networks..

Bottomline: It allows Sprint to offer service on-par to Verizon and AT&T at less cost to them and hopefully to us and in the long run hopefully begin to suck customers away to increase it's market share and eventually earnings back up.

Currently all Sprint LTE phones at least until 2013/14 will only be single band 1900mhz LTE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ranmasaotome510:
Umm no, Higher frequencies travel shorter distances. And Lower Frequency towers do not require more towers to be built around them.