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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
Any way to applied it in the phone not in pc? Better is there a software to reduce the noise before shooting? You said that it's sensor was good but tiny right? So is it hardware problem ? Or software? Or both?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Efe64:
Wow!

Hold on!

Just one picture and tooken with auto mode and this whole review...?

What the hell is this. This doesnt even makes sense...

This is more like:

Hey buddy im bored, let pick up some phones and take pictures and put it on internet.

So "we" can read it and discuss it so they can laugh their ass of...

In another threats .. With no "auto" mode they made few compares...

Different stages, scenes etc...

The xs came the best out.. It just beat all of them..

4s to s2(whens3 was not out)

Every high end smart phone.. But doesnt mind..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SEFanX10i:
^

Can you post link to the comparo where XS beat them all ? :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] keithwalton:
The original review work comes from the mobile reviewer at cnet. Having read her reviews in the past she is very apple biased and seems unable to operate phones correctly.

In her original review of the xperia s (put up against iphone 4) she complained about the xs' camera taking 'letterbox' photos and that she prefered the iphones 4/3 images. If she'd of bothered to hit the menu button when using the camera she'd of found it was set to 9mp 16/9 and that a couple of clicks would of then set it to 12mp 4/3.

So dont expect her to have used anything but full auto mode.

The manual options in the xs' camera are great with things like target iso, and multi point auto focus.

If only they'd bothered to include the jpeg compression options as the default level dratically over compresses images and introduces artifacts.

Also on her low light test (and most of the tests tbh) ... the iphones colours look artificially over saturated (post process) the noise level on the iphone is also horrific yet she complains at the rest!

It's also funny to see her complaining about the iso effect, its probably because the xs and gs3 can change there iso and the rest cant! Try having some movement in the image and then see how well the iphone copes.

What is also funny is that the images have all been resized for web display, having 50% more pixels to start with gives you more options for post processing and thus noise reduction
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
So if we could adjust the jpeg compression the noise would be reduce right?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
That's not strictly true, the noise comes from the software raising ISO in low light, all sensors from the tiny ones in a phone to a full frame 35mm one will suffer from noise as the ISO is raised. Its just that the bigger the sensor the higher the ISO needs to before it to become a problem.

If noise is a problem then just use Neat Image, nothing comes close to it http://www.neatimage.com/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] pixy132:
The noise in this camera is not particularly bad, tbh in low light every digital camera will have noise because of the use of higher ISO. I think the 12mp sensor also make the noise more visible...I'm not sure about the technical details though...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] keithwalton:
The basic gist of iso levels is as follows.

For a given amount of light hitting the sensor (metered) an exposure duration is determined.

Increasing the iso level decreases the exposure time for the same amount of light.

A shorter exposure time reduces the signal to noise ratio significantly, but it also reduces motion blur. Noise can be post processed, blur not so much.

My old nokia n95 would have exposure times of over 2 seconds in low light conditions, chance that everything remained totally motionless in this time is very small!

The exposure duration is usually stored in the exif file, I hope her original files kept all this sort of info!

The xs' camera has potential because we can change the target iso value (though compared to a still camera they're still low) we can also change the metering method as well. I haven't seen either of these features before in a phone camera.

The only thing we are missing is the ability manually specifiy exposure duration.

You are also correct in that the higher pixel density of a sensor the higher probabiltiy of noise.

Ability to take raw photo's or 100% quality jpegs would be nice (people have done mods to enable 100% jpeg quality, but I cant root my phone at present to test it as i use sky go)

Edit - Just checked the exif info on the 'original full size' images and its been wiped :( file sizes are interesting though.

GS3 - 2.1mb, IP4 - 2.6mb, 1X - 1.5mb, XS - 2.0mb

Have just noticed all the 1x pics are 6 megapixel images in 16:9 format which seems suspicious to me. But it says it all for the XS when it has a smaller file size than the GS3 and IP4 yet 50% more pixels.

Rough rule of thumb is that you need at least 1/2mb per megapixel to avoid any degradation on a full image (ie no patches of black or white)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] adsada arc:
Literally all other smartphones now use sony's sensor that first appeared on the Xperia arc, iPhone 4s, Samsung S3 etc. The xperia S uses the same sensor but with the advantage of having more megapixels.

I know how megapixels isn't the most important thing and blah blah, but it is really nice to have an image you can zoom in and have good clarity still. Plus if I want to shoot in 16:9 mode I have a nice 9MP resolution instead of the 6MP on an 8MP lens.

I do think the XS takes decent photos, the focusing issue some have experienced (me included) is annoying but that aside it does take some good shots.

Then again most new cameraphones take photos which are all of pretty good quality, and comparing them is hard. I suppose the technology is current at its max and until something revolutionary comes along to make it as good as a proper camera I see the whole 'which takes a better shot' kinda silly.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
The focusing problem is annoying but noise is worst I don't know but if I zoom in one of my photos there is noise that bothered me and when I zoom before shooting the noise is evident.. Again I don't know much about cameras but my Satio which I guest didn't have this top notch sensor did quite better(minimum noise) never had a focus problem in low light always perfect... So the noise could be reduced via software update? Any tip to make better photos apart from lower ISO? Maybe a way to turn the flash longer in order to focus better? Thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bustervic:
That may have been the most pathetic shootout I have ever seen. They need to look at phonearena, or gsmarena for a how to on camera shootouts that actually make sense.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] damirbusic:
Well, I am also little dissapointed with the camera. I have made few 720p videos and they are BLURRY, they were made on the grass and on a sunny day. Also, photos inside the house with less light have too much noise. I really dont get that, iPhone has Sony sensor and makes far better photos and videos. Ive had iPhone 4 and SGS II and while Xperia maybe makes better photos than iPhone 4, video is a lot worse,SGS II has far better video, photos are similar quality but man, iPhone 4S makes insanely good videos and photos, I have never seen better camera on the phone to date. I will not buy an iphone, at least not before iPhone 5 but we must be realistic.

Sent from my LT26i
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] a4rocks:
It more or less depends on person to person and what settings they are using. I am using a custom ROM which has modded the camera APK for less compression. Gives me great pictures. The problem lies in the software and I am sure with the ICS upgrade, we will see a much better camera. The sensors in essence are the same, its the software that's making the difference. Though quite a few people have had some focus issues but I haven't had it even once
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] foxy4270:
noise in pics

DO NOT USE STOCK CAMERA.

drivers are not optimized.

Use lgCamera instead. There is zero noise in low light shoots
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
1)Under developer settings. Where u set the process limit it resets all the time.

2) When I use my camera and then back out of the camera my auto brightness turns off.

3)Edit: The REG 99 error on WiFi stinks. - known issue... Called tmo

4)Edit again: lock screen shortcuts? Can't change them anymore?- Addressed

5) I also noticed that when my mobile network data is off my 4g icon still pops up and shows sending and receiving. When I check settings it's off.

6) when u go into the phone and then press home and enter task manager, you can kill the processes and press back. When u do it switches between phone and task manager and will not. back o unless.

A bit annoying on these things. Anyone know of a solution? And Glacier if this is as simple as pinch the screen I'm sorry lol!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Y2Ne1:
never had that problem but its best just to set it to Standard Limit , that's my best advice :o
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
I know it is an issue with some others because I see it on google when I search, but it's annoying. Not major, but is a feature that should work if google added it. :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] Y2Ne1:
Google = Working Progress lol im sure you can figure thing out then if you searched online read through what people are saying i never had that problem so i couldn't tell you where to start or end :( but just give idea and advice :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
I appreciate it
[HTC Amaze 4G] Y2Ne1:
no problem hit thanks if i did :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
Can we not change the shortcuts on the lockscreen? How do we do that. Used to be in personalization under lock screen.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Double0EK:
It's been discussed more than a few times.

Whatever you have on your launcher bar it will he on your lockscreen.

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[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
That makes sense. I dont use the stock launcher so I didn't notice.
[HTC Amaze 4G] edmcrocker:
What about being able to change the volume with the phone locked? I thought this was a new feature? I see I can pull down the status bar from the lock screen and then adjust the volume, but this is just as many steps as unlocking the phone and changing the volume!

ALSO, what happened to the Panorama mode aka SweepShot for the camera? It dun work no more!
[HTC Amaze 4G] improperburial:
I was having the same issue with the camera brightness, I'm not sure if you're rooted or not, but if you are you can try Adjbrightness it can lock other apps from changing your screen brightness
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
Hmm weird. My panorama mode works still... :confused:
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
Yep, rooted.
[HTC Amaze 4G] edmcrocker:
Mine went away when I installed Quiksense and hasn't been back since!
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
I wish some more people would confirm or deny these issues. I feel like going back to GB. I was super happy ICS was released.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
most of this is not happening on NRG Rom. I wonder if the stock didn't flash right
[HTC Amaze 4G] glacierguy:
I wish people would stop blaming ROMs for issues not caused by ROMs. It's rude to the Devs of those ROMs.

Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G RUNNING QUICK-SENSE ROM WITH WORKING APM AND PANORAMIC PHOTO SETTINGS ENABLED :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
Lol!

I did notice that the process limit doesn't stay set even on nrg rom. The brightness while using the camera seems to stay set.
[HTC Amaze 4G] crazypotato:
Flash on ICS is horrible! I have a flash radio app. It used to work ok on GB. It is now choppy as hell. Flash doesn't handle hardware audio decoding or something. Flash has always been a headache!
[HTC Amaze 4G] edmcrocker:
i don't know what you're trying to show me with this. i'm on stock ics now. i go into sweepshot, take the picture, attempt to sweep and it doesn't let me. it just takes a regular photo.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Well my panorama works...

Sent from my...

The Ultimate Guide to Everything Amaze-ing!(Amaze 4g BIBLE!) Updated Often
[HTC Amaze 4G] jjlean:
Mine too. Are u letting go of the button?
[HTC Desire S] :
Hey,

can you please tell me which Radio Version is the best for the latest relaese of the CyanogenMod 9?

I flashed the CyanogenMod9 Rom yesterday with the new Radio from the VIrtuosSaga 1.0 and after turning the screen on (the Desire S came from loading station and had 100% battery) the battery looses instantly 7%.

So i think that i need to flash another Radio version. Is that right?
[HTC Desire S] kirri_le:
I'm using 3805.06.02.03_M, installed it while downgrading from hboot 2.00.0002

So, device life is about 1 day, charging it when I go to sleep:)
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Calibrate your battery, the radio works fine for me...

Radio performance and battery drain is not related to ROM

Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
This radio drains your battery very quickly on initial flash. After that, it gets better and better. Just be patient.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baari21:
Seeing that Sony wouldn't be releasing ICS to us, would dualbooting with ICS and GB be possible?

Like having one ROM on sd and one on NAND and then having a way to swap kernels?I don't have the technological knowledge to know if this is possible so I am asking you all.

If this can be possible then we can use GB for gaming and still have our ICS. Thanks for your enlightenment.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leots:
I would love to have this too, if someone made it I would even DONATE TO THEM!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leraeniesh:
It is not possible.

Sent from R800x
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leots:
Is there a way to flash a new kernel directly from the phone, without using a computer?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baari21:
But why isn't it possible?

Here is a Nook doing it here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5OSKX95Low

Here is a Novo Elf doing it here: http://www.flashmyandroid.com/forum...o-7-Elf-dual-boot-ICS-4-0-3-Gingerbread-2-3-4

Maybe this app might make it possible: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.drx2.bootmanager&hl=en

This is what it does: http://init2winitapps.com/stories/BMManual.html

Looking forward to your answers.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] savage24x:
I don't know if Keiran is still working on his Dual-Boot kernel. He may be.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leots:
On his dualboot kernel you could only dual boot two versions of Gingerbread, not ICS and GB...
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baari21:
Well he might know if it's possible then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheUnforgiven83:
Well, first I'd like to say hello and introduce myself, since this is my first post on XDA-devs. I'm Dave, from North Georgia and I've had dozens of phones over the years, from the Nokia 6340i, to the Motorola MPX220, to the Blackberry Bold 9650, to the iPhone 3GS, to the Motorola Droid Bionic, and now to the Samsung Galaxy S II that I am currently rocking. I don't really know all that much about developing stuff, but I'm good at following instructions and I know enough about how things work, or shouldn't work, to be a good guinea pig (A.K.A. Alpha/Beta Tester).

Now that that's out of the way, on to my review of Straight Talk on my Galaxy S II:

I got the Galaxy S II from eBay on April 30th, and ordered a SIM for an AT&T branded phone from Straight Talk which came a couple days later. One thing to note, is that Straight Talk makes you sign for the SIM in person with FedEx, and I missed the FedEx man for two days because of work, so I drove to the FedEx facility to sign for and pick up the SIM, before they returned it to Straight Talk. That's pretty annoying in a rural area like mine, since the facility is over an hour away from my house. Luckily, that's my only complaint with Straight Talk.

I put the SIM in, set the APN settings with the info that ST provides with the SIM, and then went online on my Bionic to setup my account, and ported my number, right in the FedEx parking lot. Took about 10 minutes and the hardest part was finding my Verizon account number to port my number. The GSII started getting a HSPA+ data signal within a few minutes, and I ran a speed test, and got about 6 mbps down and 2 mbps up. I tried calling and SMS and that all worked fine. About 10 - 15 minutes after I ported my number, everything was working properly.

The phone and service has worked flawlessly since then except for the time I put a ROM on and forgot re-setup the APN. Easy fix though. I'm currently running SHOstock2 v3.0.4 and I love it. I've tried several ROMs, all of which work nice, but SHOstock2 feels more natural to me than any of the others. I've been using Shostock2 for nearly 3 weeks, and it has been great. The ROM and the phone itself have been rock solid!

My bill is 46.xx a month(I can't remember what the change is), and I've used a little over 2 gigs of data, sent several thousand texts and talked for several hundred minutes, and so far, I think I've picked a winner. Sure beats paying Verizon $98-$110(after 16% corp discount) a month for a flaky at best Droid Bionic...

I've just got to say, this Galaxy S II has been the best phone I've ever used by a good margin. If anyone has any questions, comments or suggestions, please feel free to ask them. It is pretty late for me, so I'm sure I'm forgetting something.

Have a nice night,

~Dave
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] donsh00tmesanta:
I'm so pysched I'm confused on whether to get an unlocked gs2 or palm pre 2 for this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheUnforgiven83:
As far as I'm aware you won't need an unlocked phone for this. Just an AT&T branded phone. My GSII was unlocked when I bought it, because I tried a T-Mobile prepaid SIM and it worked fine. I don't have data on that account, so I couldn't try that, plus it would of only been EDGE anyway. I couldn't tell you which phone to get, but I like Android phones myself, and the GSII is hard to beat. I've used 4 Android phones, the HTC EVO, the Motorola Droid X2, the Motorola Droid Bionic, and now the Galaxy S II, and the GSII blows the others away!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
When you said "you ported your number", do you mean transferring old Verizon # from your Bionic to new AT&T SGS2?

Anyway, good feedback on ST.

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mattdm:
That's what porting means, to the carriers. I dealt with that too, when my wife switched to my family plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheUnforgiven83:
That is correct. ST lets you transfer any mobile and most landline numbers to them. Sorry, I should of used the word "transferred" instead of "ported".
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Got it,

Thanks matt, Unforgiven
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eep2378:
I'm gonna have to keep an eye on this. Thanks. Can iPhone be ported over too? My wife will likely have an iPhone forever. I may seriously consider moving my family plan when my contract is up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] creepyncrawly:
They sell either a regular mini sim, or the micro sim that fits the iPhone 4, so it looks like the answer is yes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] yomama84:
I've been thinking of doing this. I really should.

Anyone else have this service? how is the reception and speed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheUnforgiven83:
Go to Straight Talk's Website(I don't have a high enough post count to post links yet), then click Shop, and then SIM Cards.

Then, select the AT&T Compatible Phone radio button this site, and then it lets you select a standard Mini-SIM and the ewer Micro-SIM.

And there you go. :)

Depending on the SIM you buy (AT&T or T-Mobile) you use the towers of that carrier. So, I have the same reception as any AT&T customer. The only limiting factor is, and I've only heard this, I haven't had a chance to verify it, but you are limited to 7mbps because of the att.mvno APN that Straight Talk uses. There's no "4G" AT&T HSPA+ in my area, only the "3G" variety, according to the coverage map, so I've highest I've seen is 5.5 mbps down and 2.3 mbps up using speed tests. I'm going to a "4G" area soon, so I will test it there. So, it's not the 30mbps/3mbps that I got with Verizon's LTE network, but it's also half the price, and a lot less BS to deal with. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Danation:
Thank you for this thread. I've been strongly considering this for a while. The feedback on Straight Talk is appreciated!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Really???

Verizon LTE yields 30mbps??? Wow, that's fast. I never get pass 5mbps on pure AT&T in my area.

---------- Post added at 02:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:21 PM ----------

Oh, btw, anyone know if unlimited mobile-to-mobile still be true if a ST with AT&T sim and pure AT&T customer? Both using AT&T network, though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheUnforgiven83:
Yeah, I'd get 15-30 mbps every LTE test from the Bionic. I think 32mbps was the fastest I'd seen. Even 15 - 25 when Wi-Fi tethered to a laptop. And really nice(for wireless) 65 - 80 ms latency too. But on EVDO, which is all my hometown has, I never saw above 1.8mbps, so I doubled to tripled my data speeds at home now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tech71:
Put a ST sim in my boys Xperia play out here in California. Works freaking great. Way better then T-Mobile pre-pay.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sbi1:
Thank you for the post!! I feel stupid now though, for being committed to AT&T ;)

Will definitely look at this when my contract is up.

Quick question for anyone who may know - looking at ST's Coverage Area, can someone explain to me what is the difference between Android and non-Android coverage map?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] REOGrand:
Straight Talk uses AT&t towers so the service should be the same. A few things to consider. ST doesnt allow tethering, streaming music or video. If you go over 2gb a month for data you will get a text from them and after that they will cut your service off!!! You will lose your number!!!!! Remember that! They have never made it clear when they will cut you off but from reading other posts it has come to the conclusion its 2 gb or a 100 mg a day. But if you can live with all that it cant be beat! My bill is 47 and change for the same service I was paying over 80 for. Im happy with ST. Just like here...Google is your friend. Search for more info. Good info on HoFo. Dont want to post another link to another forum. Hope some of this info was helpful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheUnforgiven83:
That Android map is for the ST branded Android phones, which up until a few days ago only used Sprint's network. You can tell by looking on the box and it will say what network it uses in the bottom corner. In those Android phone's case, the box says "CDMA-S" but they have just now released Android phones that say "CDMA-V" on the box, because they use Verizon's network. For GSM phones it depends on the SIM you buy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TheUnforgiven83:
A couple of screen shots from last night, showing speed tests from a "4G" HSPA+ area, as shown on AT&T's coverage map(the second pic was after I rebooted the phone, just to make sure I had enough RAM to properly run the flash based test.)

By the way, does anyone else notice the glitch?