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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kornface13:
I'm not gonna lie....I thought this was the reason it had such a retarded name....becuase it could connect to LTE and 4G. I thought the name was retarded before.....now I just want to bash my head against a wall. At least it's an awesome phone, unlike the Evo3D....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] metalfan78:
Technically LTE is 4g. Just like wimax is 4g.

"We're coming from a pure power source."
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] knlmwq:
Evo 3d is very underrated in my opinion. I mean take away the 3d function and it is an upgraded evo. So do all the people who dislike the evo3d also dislike the OG evo4g?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kornface13:
Actually none of them meet the ITU requirements of 4G... But it's kind of just accepted that you don't have to meet those requirements. haha

---------- Post added at 02:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:46 PM ----------

Poor word choice on my part....I don't hate the Evo3D...it was just frustrating to have it as my first powerful phone, but the entire root process was such a pain. I was hoping for something like the OG Evo. Where it's rooted on release day and there's more ROMs than you even know what to do with. Really my complaints have nothing to do with the phone itself. It's a good phone. It's fast, has outstanding resolution, and 3D....lol. I wonder if 3d is the reason development takes so long on the 3D. That thing should have had ICS long long ago....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] liquidhaste:
OR....

Secret overly priced gadget geek method.

Add a 4g wimax hotspot to your account. Walk around with it in your pocket or backpack and im assuming anyone who does this carries a load of junk on them. And access wimax on your ltEvo via wifi. PWNED! take that sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
Have to agree, there isn't really anything wrong with the old 3d, just a pathetic network. But something newer and better has come along. Hoping network vision tweaks the 3g also as it is supposed to to extend that 3d a little more.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SiGuy11:
I actually loved the OG Evo but didnt enjoy my experience w/ the 3D. I instantly had buyers remorse from launch day since it was such a small upgrade from the OG. I liked the higher resolution screen, the narrower frame, and the dedicated camera button but hated that it had such a terrible camera since thats what they touted the most, not the best battery life, mediocre screen, and only marginally better than the OG. Totally felt like a wasted upgrade, compared to the LTE which I LOVE so far. Obviously there are a few things I would change but its more of a "getting used to" issue than issues with hardware or software.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vulcZ:
Reading this is highly depressing. I currently work as a systems admin for a college, but about a year ago (before I got this job) I had applied to work as a tech for a Sprint store, but was rejected during their initial testing phase (LOL). Funny how clowns like the guy in the store can get a job there but I wasn't able to :P I wasn't unemployed at the time, I was just looking for a change and thought working at Sprint might be fun lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] knite75:
The Sprint store right at the corner of Beach & Edinger in Huntington Beach.

Moreover, when I telephoned customer service upon receiving my phone to activate, I asked the gal rep why it's only showing 3G in the status bar, and where I can go to activate the 4G signal like on my EVO 3D.

She instructed me to simply go into SETTING ---> MOBILE NETWORK --->NETWORK MODE ---> make sure LTE/CDMA is selected. Than go back to MOBILE NETWORK ---> look in 4G SETTINGS ---> if it shows "Sprint" (which it does) than I have 4G activated like on my EVO 3D.

She said to disregard that it's showing "3G" on my status bar. It's actually 4G running in "background".

LOL her misinformation somehow made complete sense at the time. Maybe, in my excitement of having this new toy, I abandoned all common sense and reasons.

Nevertheless, aside from the molasses 3G connection, I absolutely love the phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jr71x:
Reminds me when I bought the og EVO, two customer reps told me that even not having 4g in my area but my phone has it, lmao, will make the 3g faster/better, what an effing joke... I knew they were lying to me but I wanted to to believe them... I wonder if Sprint reps are trained to lie... I know radio shack doesn't cause I used to manage one, unless they changed protocol... Lol, has been awhile...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
Technically WiMAX and LTE are classified as True 4G because of their network architecture, their download and upload speeds are just not correct- stateside at least. The only one that should not be classified as 4G is HSPA+, T-Mobile and AT&T just bribed the ITU to change its standards.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jayavarman:
What work do you currently do.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Wow.I can't believe how much sprint lies to people. This thread just disgusts me. Or maybe the employees really are THAT stupid. Could it be?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Blackcircle:
There are some stores that have morons taking care of customers...on the other hand, I have seen some stores with great knowledgeable people wanting to help the customer. Let's not bash Sprint as a whole just because some people don't do a good job. This type of thing happens everywhere not just at Sprint. Just saying...

via HTC EVO 4G LTE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] abhaxus:
You should feel like an idiot, because the name of the phone is "Evo 4G LTE. " He wasn't mocking you, you're just dumb.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
Oh haha the newly opened store. Next time go to the corporate store on westminster and goldenwest. St least its a corp instead of hole thru the wall type.

Sent from my EVO LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PinnerProxy:
Where in orange county? I get 4g like everywhere lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .torrented:
Way to put someone down because you couldn't comprehend what the OP was saying. Obviously the OP knows what the name of the phone is, but what you completely missed was the fact that the Sprint rep. telling him that because the name of the phone has "4G" that it could connect to the "4G," however the 4G that the rep. was referring to was WiMax and not LTE (FYI WiMax and LTE are both 4G, 4G is the name of the connection type.)

So you're the one who should feel like the idiot, not him.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] benthe1:
Wow! I hate when people put down others because of being misinformed. People like you think just because you happen to know something it should be common sense. Well have some common decency by not making others feel like complete idiots for making a small mistake. Most people see 4G in the name and think, "oh, I have 4G in my area already, awesome!". They don't know the difference between LTE and Wimax because they have no idea what Wimax even is just like you don't no what respect is.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bk718:
Apparently u don't comprehend too well.. He put quotations around the "4G".. As to show HOW he was being mocked... Now u should feel like an idiot.. Looks like you turned out to be the dumb one..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LordLugard:
How about we each assign an equal measure of blame/shame to BOTH the O.P and the reps? How about due diligence in doing your own research before buying something?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] aburgthing:
At least you have your phone. It never ever ceases to amaze how un-informed these store reps actually are. I now have to wait for the general release of the phone because a sales person at Radio Shack did not put in a proper pre-order. When I called that particular store to ask, "well did my phone come in?" the sales person went on to tell me that "they aren't released yet blah..blah..something about customs and Apple..two weeks maybe..blah..blah..let me ask my manager..nope no phone for you." To make a long story short after really considering how I could get into the phone line and strangle every employee in the store, they botched my pre-order so I have to wait. Like they have no expectation of an informed customer who followed the whole story and expect you to take a line of BS hook line and sinker. Sort of like shopping for tablets and someone tries to steer you to an iPad or show how revolutionary their phone is because they have GoLauncher on it. Usually leaves me standing there looking like a fish out of water, mouth moving but no words coming out then just "forget it".

Now at least I can read about how nice the phone is and see the pictures on this site and follow the dev./root process which will probably be patched by general release. Sorry had to get that out. **End Rant**
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] abhaxus:
So let me get this straight, everyone here is bashing Sprint because the OP bought a phone from a third party store and feels misinformed that it had wimax because it had 4G in the name of the device. Now that it's come out that it's a third party, are people going to come out and apologize to the actual Sprint employees reading? No. They are going to go on thinking that a Sprint employee lied to this guy, who was obviously not intelligent enough to do any research before buying a 200 dollar device that uses a 4G technology that won't be deployed in most areas until next year. Obviously it is exclusively the sales rep's fault. I don't "no" what respect is, but I'm pretty sure it would involve the OP retracting his anti Sprint statements since he got his phone from a third party.

As for the customer care rep, I wonder how much of that description is a case of the blind leading the blind... Clearly the correct answer to the question about whether this phone should have a 4g connection would be to say it's not in your area yet. The rep is correct to say that just because the phone says 3g in the status bar doesn't mean it isn't capable of connecting to 4G. Honestly this kind of thing happens all the time when morons ask why their iPhone "4G" never shows 4G. Some people simply shouldn't be allowed to own technology... Or at least shouldn't be allowed to post on a forum for power users and enthusiasts.

It would be impossible for an actual Sprint employee to not know LTE vs WiMax at this point. We have had to complete at least a half dozen training sessions on how to represent the changeover to customers. Believe it or not, Sprint takes satisfaction very seriously and selling someone a WiMax device is recommended right now if they are in a WiMax area without LTE availability.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jabawockee:
LMAO!!! This made my day
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rodrigo87:
i feel the same lte is 4g so it shouldnt have 4g in the name is not like the 3d was called "htc evo 3d 4g wimax" is either 4g or lte in the name :-)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Yeah, obviously its consumers responsibility to be informed. But for employees to outright lie to customers?... Way bigger problem. You have any idea how many people walk into buy a cell phone every day knowing NOTHING about it? Its the sellers responsibility, the way i see it.

I mean, I do a ton of reading before I walk in to buy something. But I guarantee 80% do not. And they expect reps to nit lie to them. (Everyone should expect that). The idea of blowing smoke up your customers a$$ is pathetic. It reminds me of free-marjet, republican philosophy. Which obviously is always a failure.

sent from my Evo LTE, usually.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jayavarman:
Clearly, it should be the government's responsibility.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] josh030181:
I no there is no lte but I seen people saying they had lte turned on doing battery life test
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lilbitz_1018:
go to your settings where it says wifi, BT, Mobile Network etc, ...click mobile network and click Network mode, you can then change to cdma only or w/e
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 94tbird:
settings>Click on Mobile Network>NEtwork Mode.

LTE on: LTE/CDMA

LTE Off: CDMA Only
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] josh030181:
Thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] a4rocks:
Samsung Galaxy S III is a mighty beast? Agreed. Does it have the meanest specs? It does. Can it be upgraded to Android's latest when it comes? Might not be.

S III reviews are coming out and here's a quote from The Verge's review-

"One thing that goes consistently overlooked with respect to Samsung’s phones is the company’s ignominious track record with Android software updates. There may be worse offenders out there, but Samsung’s chronic failure to update its devices on time (or at all) is a significant black mark for a brand looking to lead the way in almost every other respect. Thus, as much as I may enjoy the Galaxy S III today, I have to temper that enthusiasm with the knowledge that its long-term future may not be as rosy as that of a stock Android device"

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/25/3042640/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review

The Galaxy S II ICS update hasn't come to India yet where Sony is almost ready to release ICS updates for their low-end range in a week, despite S II being a flagship. People in this forum are constantly doubting Sony's commitment to their customers. I don't know why but they should never. For a company which is willing to support the developer community for the greater good, nothing speaks more trust than that. So if you worried about the ICS update or future updates about your XPERIA S, never worry. Just wait for a couple of weeks more and you will get it.

So will you trust Sony?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] optik19918:
i owned an xperia x10->ray and now xperia s.

the xps is a very good phone i can say is fantastic, i played some howers a go a game made by qualcomm it self (snapdragon) the game is Desert wind still in very very alpha and not even completed and i can say that game completly destroys all tegra 3 games i ever seen!

but lets be honest the galaxy s3 is a better phone in many aspects, is a newer high end phone is normal to be better, not only for the futures he comes with but for the hardware to, if i should buy a new phone right now i'll wait for the galaxy s 3!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] pshdo:
No i'll never trust FONY again!

It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...

AND...

The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...

Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...

And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...

They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!

And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Even my X10 MP could run ICS. But that's marketing. It has been like that and always will be.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] electrash:
Xperia for life..

Sony simply love the aftermarket developers, users need.

They are social company, not some kind of competitor like apple or samsung, they aiming only for money..

Sony aim also on money, but taking in mind care of users, satisfaction of user, being reliable, accepting if they mistake in something (arc case, xperia s screen) and wiling to repair it for free...

what do you need more?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vaissiere85:
great phone poor support

i cant think of many reasons, and i have the xperia s,

it has a better screen (ppi) and i prefer the look of the xperia s, when ics comes to the xperia s i might be able to find more however with the s3 having a much larger battery, current reviews(benchmarks) say it has twice the standby time of the htc one x,

although samsung have fallen in the update area, sony have been far from good with theres with something as small as firmware and ics, three, tmobile and orange have all released there version of the .73 firmware to fix the battery drain issue and there is no generic version released as yet and wont be for some weeks, i developed the yellow tint on my first xperia s and had to wait 6 weeks for my phone to be returned, not sure what samsung are like at this but from my point of view i paid £400 for as phone that went dead after 42 days !!!! i should have had a replacement set to me not a repair

then there is ics which has a big stamp on the box saying its upgradable, the one x comes out with it, the 2011 range get it and still another month or two wait for there so called flagship to recieve the update when samsung s2 recieved the upgrade before sony got it to the 2011 range aswell,

sony were once the best in the market but now there one of the worst for it,

as much as i love the phone to pieces and wouldnt swap it for anything else on the market at the moment the support from sony and the timely updates are appalling,

i even had a chat with sony support and asked when the 73 firmware update will be released for generic uk users and his response was "do you mean ics" further training needed too i think,

plus on the xperia s

screen

camera

playstation certified

panorama 3d photos,

hdmi support

styling (see thru cap at bottom is a very good touch esp in a dark room/club)

plus on the samsung

processor

lte version to be released

additional micro sd slot ( i know 32gb is enough but what about when you want to print photos direct from the phone in store) micro sd does come in handy

ics already pre installed,

better browsing due to ics

better multitaksing due to ics the list can go on

when xperia s gets ics i still think the xperia s will be the better phone as you dont need a quad core nowadays but it has to be listed as a pro for the s3, i doubt you will get the use of it for another year or so until some advanced apps come out,
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mrsatan:
The Samasung track record for updating is much much worse than Sony. Sony is one of the best when it comes to updating for Android. Also I would rather have them wait and release an almost perfect version than push out a crummy one. Go test the HTC One series which have lag issues in ICS and you will see what I mean.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
You should try owning a Motorola if you think Sony have done you a disservice.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] theskeptic:
Fanboi threads are fail. Sony lost alot of good will with the fiasco that was the x10. Samsung ran rings around them and to be fair, and speaking as an S user, they still do. Updates? Sony vs Samsung? It's a no brainer. The S2 didn't get to where it is by shoddy after market support, quite the contrary. If it wasn't for the vast number of pissed off customers the x10 would still be running 2.1. Sony lovers devs? The lols just keep coming. All the aftermarket devs have done has been to show just how incompetent Sony are, how they try to hoodwink their less tech savvy customers by spinning utter bull**** about hardware limitations etc... And the list goes on. 3 months down the line im still waiting to be able to have some fun with my S. Silly me, should have held on to my brilliant S2 and waited for a proper phone by a manufacturer that knows how to please the masses.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lucasm93:
Well, I would never, ever consider the Xperia S over the S3. Never. Xperia S in my opinion is a competitor of the GNex. S3? No.

The Hayabusa will be that phone.

And about the updates, remember that Carriers are the biggest problem, specially in these cases of "not in my country!"

And didn't Sony just said they won't update the Xperia Play? I mean, seriously?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
lol where is the update for the original flagship arc? They updated the mid end neo V and ray but not the arc how wonderful!! And did you hear they cancelled the update for the xperia play despite "promising" it?

Wait wait where is the update for the xperia S for that matter? Are you even serious making this topic? So what if the S2 update hasnt reached india yet? It's pretty simple to put another country firmware, you really dont need indian firmware just because one lives in india. There is hardly any difference.

Samsung has bad support for their mid end and low end phones yes thats true but it doesnt apply in the slightest bit to their flagship. The galaxy S was one of the first phones after nexus S to get gingerbread. Galaxy S wasnt updated to ICS but neither was any other phone from it's time.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.

I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lucasm93:
If you cut down the SGSII variants that are a problem of the carriers, the number of devices goes down.

Plus, they should be working in the update of the Xperia S even before it's release. I dunno why they did this the way they did. They screwed up big time IMO.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
HTC is updating most of it's phones as well, even the desire HD which was launched in 2010!! You cant expect them to update something like the wildfire S with a 600mhz CPU and 512MB ROM. The minimum xperia phone getting updated is 1Ghz CPU and 1GB ROM.

Samsung did mess up yes but not on their flagship, do you even know the S2 has started shipping with ICS out of the box? The verge reviewer has no idea what he is talking about.

I never recommend the cheaper samsung phones to anyone but to try to put the S3 in a negative spot because of how samsung treats it's cheaper phones is ridiculous.

http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii_in_india_is_now_shipping_with_android_40_ics-news-4273.php
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lucasm93:
The reviewer of The Verge is the guy who got his heart broken by Samsung in the release of the S3. :rolleyes:

I'm just pleased to see that he did gave a 0 to the phone. :D

Another plus for the S3, the dev support it will have will likely be unprecedent. It's already the most preordered gadget in history (sure, the number is much higher than the real purchases because some people have pre ordered different collors and memory amount just to be safe).

Motorola sucks. I hope that with it's new CEO things will change there and they get back on the right track of producing great phones. My Motorola Milestone (2009) is able to run CM9 with it's OMAP3 550mhz (overclocked at 1ghz) and 256mb of RAM, pretty impressive for a device with a locked bootloader, IMO.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MasterLinuxer:
I agree with you that Xperia S is better, but your reason isn't right. The thing is everyone's impressed with the s3's specs like qead-core processor although it is something you definitely don't need these days. You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.

Long story short, Samsung is putting a lot of effort on over mighty specifications you don't need, maybe just for the once who compare it to the S by specs only. The ICS delay is annoying I must say, but it is not that terrible.. Another month is not THAT much.

Xperia S is sexy, awesome display and camera, and very fast. :) Sony is my choice.

Sent from my Xperia S with KA5.2