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[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdiongon7:
Here is what I've got so far

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Norwell: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

Jeff: Hi, were you guys able to solve the problem going on lately for Samsung S3 regarding the application cannot save to external SD?

Norwell: I understand that you want to know application management on S3 phones. Am I correct?

Jeff: Yes, because for some reasons why I'm reluctant on getting one now because my parents has Samsung S3 but they cannot save their applications to their external SD.

Norwell: Thank you for confirmation. I will be glad to assist you.

Norwell: Would you mind holding 3 minutes while I gather the required information on your request?

Jeff: Sure.

Norwell: Thank you.

Norwell: Thank you for being on hold.

Jeff: No problem

Norwell: I have checked with the details and I am sorry we do not have the updates for S 3 phones regarding the application save to external SD card. However, I would we would take this issue as an important and forward the concern to the superiors.

Jeff: I see, was this issue been forwarded yet to your developers? are they currently working on this issue?

Norwell: Yes, it's been forward to developers team.

Jeff: Do they have a resolution date yet? so are they gonna fix this issue on the next firmware update?

Norwell: We do not have the resolution date from our end. However, you will be notified through email once the issue is fixed.

Jeff: Alright, as long as we know that this issue is being working on then thats pretty re-assuring for us.

Jeff: Thank you for your help. I will definitely look forward for your updates regarding this issue.

Norwell: You're welcome. Is there anything else I can assist you with?

Jeff: No thats it. Thanks again
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasp3690:
Somehow, I'm reluctant to believe that this conversation will be taken seriously. Unless someof the big websites with mobile phones ews etc, make statements of this issue I doubt that samsung will become proactive.

sent with WSGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
Not a bad idea....Anyway we can sweet talk one of them into doing it :D?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4fseeker:
Everyone who is rooted can manually move his apbs to the sdcard throug directory binding.

I thus see it as an non-issue for us tech-people, only for the broad mass of inexperienced users.

However these usere usually don't fill up their storage anyway or are coming from iPhones and are thus routinely deleting files to prevent it from becoming full.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
Ok I think I am misunderstanding something here. Someone earlier in this thread said that you can't/don't physically move the app at all but can on occasions move some large data relating to the app to a folder on the extSD and then bind the directory. However, essentially the app remains?

That said. The simplicity that has been taken away from the 'Application Managers' tab is still very irritating whether you are a competent user or not.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadram:
Correct on both points. You're moving app data only, and it is inconvenient. I won't use it

Sent from my SGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4fseeker:
You can move the app itsel too, but only if doesn't run on startup.

The micrsd is slower than the internal storage, so using it may slow down the corresponding app.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
Could you please explain how? I am not aware of how that works.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9lum9u66ing:
I made a script.

Tutorial:

Download the attached mountextsd.zip and extract it to a random directory.

Be sure USB debugging is enabled in [Settings -> Developer options].

Be sure you rooted your device.

Connect the phone to your PC.

Run MOUNTSD USB GT-I9300.BAT.

Now everything should work...

...but after a reboot you have to run again.

Maybe someone has an idea to run this script on every boot.

For developers here is the shell code. It's very, very simple:

su
mount -o bind /mnt/extSdCard /mnt/sdcard/external_sd

VirusTotal scan:

https://www.virustotal.com/file/c74...7ba3c0ae7f408ff292537437/analysis/1341493259/
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
Has anyone else tried this? (I am at work before the wave of 'try it yourself' responses come through).

If so props to this person.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michael_P:
I just noticed GL to SD was updated the other day to be S3 compatible so there's something else to try.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9lum9u66ing:
I tested it on SII, SIII and Note. (I had to change the Script a little bit. )
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMSpilot:
Please Share

Can you please share the script?

Thanks
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9lum9u66ing:
I attached it to the first post on this page.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radek.artemis:
I use Titanium Backup (rooted). I Can move any app to SD...

Odesláno z mého GT-I9300 pomocí Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
How?

And does it work? Is there the option to move the apps in the application manager tab AND is the altered Script that one you have added above?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjhay19:
SD Card and Internal memory are the same on SGS3. The SD Card is the Internal. and the micro SD card is the EXT. SD Card. It's a bit confusing but it is what it is :silly:

CHECK the OVERVIEW of your Titanium BackUp... The Internal and SD Card are exactly the same USED/Free Data
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasp3690:
what if there was an app that can do partition changes and allow a certain amount of the extSD card to be 'named' SDcard, as if its part of the internal memory, and therefore the android would think its part of the same internal memory?

You may not have to go through the process of having to being able to move apps to the extSD but at least your internal SD space could rise and thus allow to use more demanding applications to be installed without issues.

Im not a developer so those with experience may say its not plausible. Just a thought though!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadram:
Just tried it... very bad. Nothing works. Now I have to figure out how to reverse it

Sent from my SGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadram:
Actually it does. Got to launch apps through it though.

My bad

Sent from my SGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michael_P:
I know the previous version f**ked up Play Store and got a memory full error when I tried to install anything, but I'm using Directory Bind so wasn't gonna risk this yet.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bentyh:
hey guys i just rooted my s3 and installed titanium backup pro. is there a way i can change the external storage to "/mnt/extSdCard"? the default is "/mnt/sdcard" which is actually internal memory. i want to move my apps to SD card which is in the batchbackup/restore options. tia
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michael_P:
Sorry mate it's impossible to move Apps, but you can move individual folders using App called Directory Bind, so just read through this thread and you'll get your answers.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TristanPR77:
Move to SD Card MUST be fixed on the Galaxy S3

This issue must be fixed because most of us use "Move to SD Card" management. Take for example...

Google Music on the Galaxy S3, the Offline music is stored in the internal 11GB storage with no option to move it to the SD Card. For many people, their music library is greater than 16GB and so having the option to move it to the SD Card is a must.

Another example is app data, think for a second with Angry Birds Space, you are in the first world and have obtained all the stars. If something happens to your phone, all your progress is lost, but if you moved the app to the SD Card, all your progress is there.

Move to SD Card feature must be fixed on the Galaxy S3, this is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadram:
THANK YOU! I'm tired of people saying it isn't required. I LOVE Google Play Music, but I can't use it anymore to store my tunes offline. I had to settle for the stock app in order to keep my games.

Directory bind seems to work fine but it is not the way to go.

Samsung has to work thus one out and soon. 2 ota updates later, and still nothing.

Sent from my SGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tyson11234:
Samsung has to really fix the problem. Why make a phone boasting that it can hold up to 64gb card, but yet we can't move any apps to the damn card for all that just make a phone that doesn't support SD card atleast we'll know what we getting before purchasing.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vistagamer:
Why we can't change partition Names? Or make one Huge (16gb) System Partition and no sdcard partition...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeLGaRaTh67:
Thankyou for explaining it so that those who don't understand, can understand. I have 20+GB of music obviously which doesnt fit on the S3, my old S1 had no issues whatsoever moving it over to my 32GB card :(

I will see for sure in a few weeks if it is indeed forced by google when my Xoom gets updated to JB (Motorola said it would be mid to end of July). I hope it isn't as I am in a similar situation there so I will be up S*#@ Creek without a paddle if it is as I have most of my data on the external card on that device too, even though it has 32GB internal memory. I just find it easier.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
Has anyone actually tried this? I have been away all weekend and was hoping someone would have given it a crack?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serdxx:
so is that worked? esp on samsung galaxy s3? GT-i9300

please give a confirmation bout that.

thx
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hin83:
Have anyone got this to work?? Someone have too find a 100% solution quickly!!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMXO:
if you are talking about external storage for TiBU then go into preference to change the location
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roy KW:
As always, early adoptors get punished.

Us users get punished for trying this device first and only having the choice to choose the 16GB version.

Thank you Samsung and F--- You. :good:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michael_P:
Yep too true.

I just sent an email to Samsung asking why almost every other Android can do this and S3 can't, and I know I'm just gonna get some prepared copy/paste statement but figured it's worth a laugh, and I really think more people should contact them and basically just ask if they bringing it back because if not you gonna be forced to stop buying their phones because you can't use the phone the way it should, then maybe they will get off their arses quicker to sort it.

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Yep too true.

I just sent an email to Samsung asking why almost every other Android can do this and S3 can't, and I know I'm just gonna get some prepared copy/paste statement but figured it's worth a laugh, and I really think more people should contact them and basically just ask if they bringing it back because if not you gonna be forced to stop buying their phones because you can't use the phone the way it should, then maybe they will get off their arses quicker to sort it.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pachi72:
Would this problem be solved with a custom ROM?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadram:
Please share that e-mail address here

I'd like to spam them about this

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
No. Still waiting for another solution.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jameslloyd:
I am having some success getting this to work on GT-i9300 (CM9 nightly from Jun 27th) I have deleted my offline cache created a folder on the extSdCard and have the following command running as root at boot (tasker profile)

mount -o bind /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music /extSdCard/googlemusic/music

Just rebooted and the cache is now refilling on the external card. will wait for some more albums to cache bounce it again and report back
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pachi72:
Well I ordered 32gb of Galaxy S 3. I cannot stand having only 11gb internal. Canada Gsm has an unlocked versión of i747 32gb. The real ***holes is ATT not not carrying a 32gb like everyone else.

Nokia 3650>Nokia 3660>Nokia 6630>SE W800>SE W810>SE K790>Nokia N95-1>Nokia N95-3>Nokia N95-4 8gb>iPhone 3G>iPhone 3GS>iPhone 4>GS Capitvate>Galaxy S2 i9100>Note N7000 32gb> Galaxy S 3 i747 32gb
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
That would be great James, keep us informed.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jameslloyd:
So it continued to sync overnight and all is well, the 1.2Gb of offline Music that filled the internal storage. Is now all on the extSdCard.

Note I did try to script the auto mount on boot using /data/local/userinit.sh and had no joy. So run the mount as a Tasker profile on boot which is working great.

Will now look into moving the Picasa gallery cache, which is another massive storage hog.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
James are you looking to try this with actual applications? Or just app data/media? Or have I misunderstood something?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jameslloyd:
Im moving the Play music Cache only
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
Ok so not actually moving apps about then?

Any indication this function will be reinstated with the Jelly Bean update?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeLGaRaTh67:
Sadly no for now it's just moving data, which helps if you're rooted, but I personally don't want to root as you do not get the official updates. JB whilst not confirmed by samsung yet, will most likely have the same issues as it's samsungs decision to do this with the multiple available versions of the S3 (though us as early adopters are limited to 16GB)

Personally, as mentioned before, I wish I wasnt so quick to move over to the new flagship samsung product, and should have stuck with my previous Galaxy phone :(
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SParKlingCyaNide:
Well just announced today the Att Garnet Red 32GB Galaxy S III, so there you go!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mehal88:
I heard that the Garnet Red was still 16gb only... does anyone have other information on this?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greedyfly:
Have to say I am surprised there aren't more people up in arms about this. Was it the same for the S2 when people realised you couldn't do it on that either?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shipmate:
I can confirm that UK galaxy note with ICS v4.0.3 does allow apps to be moved to external SD Card.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasp3690:
This is getting to the point of being ridiculous. Can't samsung just see this thread or aren't they aware that this is a proper issue?

sent with WSGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chuan201:
Dear Shipmate,

Please correct me if i m wrong , initially, i also think that Galaxy Note can freely move apps to external SD card but when i tried to move big game apps (>300mb) to external SD. It seems only some part of the file eg. cache being transferred.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wonsanim:
I have a Galaxy Note also and I confirm that I can transfer app to SD Card, actually I'm using a 64GB Micro SD in my Galaxy Note running Android 4.0.4.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggydabbydo:
Message to Samsung

"Hi,

I am trying to move the some apps that I have moved from internal storage to external SD card storage on my Samsung Galaxy S2 (S2), on my new Samsung Galaxy S3 (S3), but I do not see the option on the S3 as I do on the S2.

My S2 and my S3 have the same version of Android on it (4.0.4).

Can you tell me how I can gain the same functionality out of my new Samsung Galaxy S3 that I can get out of my much older Samsung Galaxy S3, ie, the ability to move apps I can move on my S2, on my S3?

Regs,"

If lots of people send Samsung such messages, perhaps they'll pull their collective fingers out .....
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ascariz:
THIS IS YOUR ANSWER! MAYBE WORKS! TRY IT!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasp3690:
Not if you haven't rooted which I don't

sent with WSGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4fseeker:
Then do it if you really want that ability. It's as easy as that
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasp3690:
Sure, but as this whole thing is a grey area, I believe either samsung or google should fix it. Not developers through apps.

sent with WSGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michael_P:
Samsung's forcing people into Rooting to get back features they really should have included and not just blame Google for it, and if you do Root you could lose your warranty if you can't/forget to flash to stock, so people really shouldn't have to be Rooting if they otherwise wouldn't.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4fseeker:
Welcome in the IT world. No device is perfect, no even so carefully maintaned device sufficient.

There are always tweaks, features, upgrades, capabilities that people want. So rooting is always necessary =)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasp3690:
Do you tweak your car? Do you modify your electric cooker or microwave? All do their job, so tweaking them would only serve an individual who wants to do something slightly better.

I tweak my car, but as a hobby. I this instance though when a feature of android has been taken away when previous devices had it, I consider it at least suspicious. So having to have to tweak it to get back that feature I think is wrong. We shouldn't HAVE to root, we should WANT to root to personalise our devices.

sent with WSGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aznmode:
I agree with shaggy that everyone should message Samsung. Complaining on xda really won't solve anything for the non rooters. Www.Facebook.com/samsungsupport is 1 way to let them know.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4fseeker:
Yes, yes and yes.

Note that 'tweaking' is a relative term. Adding the decorative dices is tweaking. I see no manufacturers of cars claiming that adding this decoration will void your warranty and you have to remove the dice before bringing it...

My microwave (otherwise very good device) has these very annoying high-pitched repeated beep-sounds when it's done. Opening it, desoldering one of the cables leading to the piezo speaker and closing it fixed the issue. Now THAT is comparable to rooting and tweaking.

Your previous car had a rear spoiler. Do you complain to the manufacturer that your new car has not and you feel all cars should?

Let me guess his response: you should have looked that one up before buying if it meant that much too you. Or alternatively use aftermarket parts which he often also sells..
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasp3690:
If you are comparing a spoiler of a car as a significant asset to the car that was removed on the newest model and not replaced with something equivalent then the comparison is wrong. A spoiler fitted for show is worthless and if your 'tweaking' suggests that then we have a different view on that.

I would say that moving apps to the sd card is very important esp. When a lot of apps take up a lot of space. A reasonable comparison therefore would be the ESP system Mercedes had to implement on the A-class because it rolled over on a very specific circumstance which is not that easily encountered, but can happen.

Most of the tweaking going on on mobile phones is for mere personal preference and therefore it can be parralleled only with tweaking such as putting stickers on a car or changing the wheels to make it more good looking.

sent with WSGS3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggydabbydo:
List of moveable apps required pls

I want to tackle Sammy with some real life examples of apps that could be moved to the user mounted SD card via Applications Manager on the S2, but which cannot be moved to the user mounted SD card on the S3.

Could you peeps give me some examples pls?

---------- Post added at 11:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 PM ----------

In the UK in customer law, there's a phrase: "not fit for purpose".

The stock S3 is not fit for purpose imv due to the inability to move apps which can be moved on many other devices, including previous versions of the Galaxy.

It's that simple.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michael_P:
I already asked Samsung last week why they doing this and got this "reply" which is the worst example of an empty Copy-Paste statement I ever saw:

Thank you for contacting Samsung and I have pleasure in providing the

following assistance.

We always look forward to hearing customer feedback and comments.

We are committed to continuously improving the experience for our

customers and your comments are important to us.

I've passed your comments on to various departments who will use

them to improve the products and services we offer.

Thank you for your input.

If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again

and we will be more than happy to help.

Kind regards

David

Online Support Team

SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre

---------- Post added at 12:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:34 AM ----------

The problem is it is fit for purpose so legally Samsung are fine, but morally they really screwing over their loyal customers because when I get a phone I expect at minimum the same capabilities as the one it replaces, but App moving and Mass Storage are major features that they left out and making almost no effort to explain why and all they doing is blaming Google when they've proved theirself that it can be done on ICS, and without those features this just doesn't feel like a £500 phone so I just feel like Samsung has misled me and feel slightly ripped off.