yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] Toxina:
First off, thank you.

Secondly; why do they keep bringing out 2core, 4core phones with 1gb ram etc. if the ****ing problem is the OS? Can't they rewrite those lines? Like I really don't get it tbh, and ICS' HW or Rom's with "forced GPU rendering" aren't really helping. Google should get its **** together :/
[HTC EVO 3D] DDiaz007:
In short, they simply can't rewrite how android handles the UI rendering priority. If they wanted to, they would have had to start with scratch. It isn't as simple as changing a few lines code.

Heck, changing a few lines of code is going to break something else, and then they would have to fix that, and fixing that may break something else. See where I'm going?

I'm no expert, and if anyone is, then please chime in. To my understanding, something like this isn't as delicate as you may think. Everything is running off that particular code on how Android operates the UI rendering priority. Changing the fundamental thing that helps Android operate, would mean everything else would have to follow suit.

Oh, and I forgot to mention HW acceleration does make a difference.
[HTC EVO 3D] ncfastls1:
If you want super smooth performance, I would highly suggest mean rom 4.3 with chads latest gingerbread kernel. Then get launcher pro as it is extremely smooth and I prefer it over the stock launcher anyway. I have next to no lag with that combo
[HTC EVO 3D] ZeRo2o9:
Lololololol @ ios being faster...there homescreen is a bunch of pictures moving around..what does it need to render? They don't have widgets lolol
[HTC EVO 3D] Cetus Corr:
I have an iPod Touch 4th gen and notice lag in that. It is smoother, but much more boring in terms of the ui. Trade offs I guess. But honestly, no matter which rom I run on my EVO 3D, I rarely, but not never, notice lag other than immediately after powering on. Maybe it's just me though.

"How come you are not baptized?"
[HTC EVO 3D] ZeRo2o9:
My phone is always smooth..learn to use android
[HTC EVO 3D] ZeRo2o9:
Well the ui is so simple it shouldn't lag..and ios is pictures so its not really rendering much
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
ignore OP. just a troll appleboy. notice how i have posted suggestions on what to flash. $5 says hes never even seen ICS, nor does he even know about the GPU drivers i told him to search about. Another $5 says he still is on Gingerbread, and no hardware acceleration. my phone s FLUID as water... for example, scrolling through homescreens and dragging down the notification bar, i feel that it moves faster than i touch it... almost like it knows what i want it to do. the graphical part is >~=60FPS. please just ignore OP :mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] crpercodani:
Troll or not it's been admitted even by the Android devs that iOS is smoother. Only because it runs a simplistic way. I'm fine with my 3D and prefer the added benefits of Android
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
>OP asks, with no hostility, how to make his Android device smoother

>You respond, almost insulting him right off the bat

>He says he doesn't notice a difference

>You decide to be completely hostile back

So just because he tried what you suggested and it didn't make the difference he was looking for, you decide that he is a troll and a fanboy and go off on him acting like you're superior?

Sounds like YOU'RE the fanboy.
[HTC EVO 3D] JohnM:
What people need to realize is being a douchey Android fanboy is no better than being a stupid apple fanboy.

They both have their ups and downs. iOS is way smoother in terms of UI which I do agree with.

Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
[HTC EVO 3D] Toxina:
I'm currently running Anryl's newest ROM (without the buggy NEW drivers you suggested). I think it's sad and even more pathetic how you have to insult me in that way, it really does show your mentality.

_______________

@SoraX64 and yousefak; Thank you both for defending me! :) (gave you both a Thanks for it too ^.~)
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
But Apple is evil!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Android4eva
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
ok just to clarify... i dont give a flying anything what you all think about me, being hostile from the start. no i was not. i gave precise instructions to help, post #2 and post #4. but since those things were ignored, i gathered my perception of the OP. i had a nice writeup for people to get their 3G speeds up to par, but you know what. screw this community. bunch of flame-hards.

and yes, i didn 'almost insultingly' post something... on the second page... get off your high horses... im done with XDA... just a leech now. screw you guys.
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
Find the proper Leedroid tweaks for your ROM, and enable ultra smooth Rosie. Bam instantly a soother ui than Apple ever dreamed.

I'd recommend ics, something like mean rom, definitely recommend the v6 supercharger script, 1000hp settings, with nitro lag nullifier. There's also an app in play called chainfire 3D it's a modified egl driver that improved smoothness on this and my og evo greatly.
[HTC EVO 3D] Smac7:
Anybody who has actually used iPhone and Android will tell you that iOS is smoother. It's just a fact. Sorry diehards, android looses that battle (but imo wins in many other areas). To answer the OP's question, ICS is your best shot at replicating the iOS smoothness. I would say for the most part, ICS on a good rom is just as smooth as iOS. You still will get those apps that lag from time to time though, but i would say that's poor programming by the app developers (I'm looking at you Amazon Appstore.). I have played with my brothers Evo 4g lte and let me tell you, that thing is smooth. Love it.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Feel free to **** off then. We don't need you to further perpetuate the stereotype that all Android users are biased little ****s with sticks up their asses.

Some of us acknowledge and accept that iOS has benefits over Android, and you know what? It's not the end of the world. We prefer Android for whatever reasons we prefer it, but for ****'s sake, please keep your fanboyish **** to yourself.

Run along now.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
This thread needs to be locked before a flame war starts.

Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
[HTC EVO 3D] :
My goodness folks, the OP asked a question on how to get android to operate at the level of fluidity iOS does, and I answered his question. This question was answered by someone who is affiliated with Google.

Fact is, Android can't achieve the same fluidity as IOS because of the UI rendering priorities. Go back to the first page, scroll down, and begin reading the link I posted.

We all have our preferences, but some of these post scream fanboy ignorance. If you have nothing useful to say, keep it to yourself. If you have nothing nice to say, keep it to yourself.

There's no need for hostility. Hug it out.
[HTC EVO 3D] nubie:
Well, iOS isn't perfect either. after ~20 apps it starts to lag quite a bit.

If he wants iOS Fluidity, he should go back to iOS!

but, if he puts his arrogance aside, he can see that there are roms that have amazing frame rates!

Im on Mean 3.91 GB with included Ziggy kernel and at 1.5 overclock with undervolt the phone is running 58-62fps,

There are options to run your phone smoothly, but it takes knowledge... and the iTard is not going to understand it.
[HTC EVO 3D] ace9988:
Im using MikMik ROM and that's as smooth as iOS for me, haven't tried any ICS ROMs because I'm only interested in a stable and fully featured build of Sense 4.0
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Go scroll through a menu quickly and tell me if you still get 60 fps.
[HTC EVO 3D] Toxina:
So first off, I own the GSM Version of the Evo 3D.

Secondly :

I never stated, that I OWN an iDevice, I had one in my Hands and after 2years of completely not touching an iDevice, I kind of was amazed of the fluidity the iOS brings with itself.

And shame on you for insulting me.
[HTC EVO 3D] sadegh1993:
hello

is there anyway to overclock gpu ?

excuse me if my question doesn't relate here

thank you
[HTC EVO 3D] nubie:
kernel is the only way
[HTC EVO 3D] nubie:
60fps.

With 145 apps!
[HTC EVO 3D] nubie:
Haha

Shame on me...

You cant just come here and post that kinda q...
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Are you using paginated app scrolling/homescreen scrolling? If so, of course it's going to be 60fps. If you're freely scrolling through 145 apps then I'd be impressed.
[HTC EVO 3D] nubie:
App drawer! And every other menus.

Telling you, kernels work wonders!
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Yes, he damn well can. Get that stick out of your ass, "iOS" and "iPhone" are not swear words on this forum.

You are not scrolling 145 apps at 60 FPS. You do not have a frame counter built into your brain. What you do have built into your brain unfortunately is a block that prevents you from answering questions about iOS rationally and without bias.

Pathetic.
[HTC EVO 3D] veladem:
Pathetic is not understanding that there are ways to view your frame rate on your screen... That's kinda sad. Besides, I've had a few androids and two iPhones, 4 & 4s, they are all good phones, however I still prefer android for 4g... I'd like to see your iPhone run 4g... Js.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
ಠ_ಠ Nice to see you guys are keeping this thread classy.
[HTC EVO 3D] ZeRo2o9:
lol even on gingerbread i never had lag on my phone unless an app crashed

---------- Post added at 05:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:39 AM ----------

lol i admit ios is faster..cuz the ui is so simple..ive had a ipod touch and it lagged so much..i traded it for a zune hd :D the point is you have to learn to use android..its "more complicated" than ios
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
A) I'm damn well aware of frame rate counters for Android.

B) I am absolutely positive that you do not get a consistent 60 FPS on your entire UI.

C) We don't have 4G, we just have some steroid-loaded long-range wifi that not many people even have.

With the iPhone 5 does LTE, Android phones will have to play catch up. That's how this game works. Stop looking at it like a contest between the two.
[HTC EVO 3D] veladem:
Dude, androids have had lte and WiMAX, so... I think you should read up before you try to say who is playing catch up... Lol!
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
This is not true.

Well I'm so ****ing glad you're willing to "admit" the UI is faster--oh wait, it's only because it's simple. Maybe one day when Android users stop being such condescending little fleabags when it comes to iOS, we might all just get along.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
In terms of battery, in terms of execution, in terms of tower placement, the list goes on. I don't think you're fully aware of the complications that LTE brings to the table when you put it into a phone. Then again, I suspect there is a lot you are not fully aware of.

Apple routinely comes into the mobile world, shows us how it's all done, and then Android does it's best to catch up. This happens with every breakthrough that Apple makes. Apple comes out with a retina display, suddenly everyone starts pushing for QHD and 720p displays and yet no one comes close to the PPI of a 2 year old phone. Apple comes out with Siri, and all of a sudden everyone wants to clone it. Apple creates an iconic homescreen with a grid of icons and a dock, and suddenly Samsung does the same thing and hopes no one notices. The iPhone 4 camera technically destroys most of the compeition out there, the iPhone 4S does even better. The iPhone 4 had NO lag or performance issues whatsoever (this can be tested with a frame rate counter, not the fanboy-vision that Android users seem to have) but they went and gave it a dual core processor anyway. Apple creates an empire with iTunes, and all of a sudden the Android Market becomes Google Play, trying to sell all the same things.

Why? Because whether or not you have the maturity to admit it, Android takes its cues from Apple. If you can act like a grownup like the rest of us and understand that it is a good thing because we all benefit from such competition, then maybe you can see eye-to-eye with those of us that don't rage anytime someone drops the word "iPhone" on XDA.

Also? They're called Android devices, not "androids". That's like calling your Windows laptop a "windows" or saying that Symbian powered devices are "symbians".

Also, adding "lol" to every single one of your posts just makes you look like an idiot. Just saying, 8th grade was kind of long ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] veladem:
Now who's turning it into a competition... Hypocrite.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
What the hell? This thread was already solved a long time ago. For goodness sakes, DROP IT.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Well, I suppose if you don't have the mental capacity to respond to a post, why bother in the first place? It's ok, run along, child.

Good job with dropping the "lol"s and adding some proper capitalization! A+ for you.

By the way? It's compeition between Android and iOS, not one you need to participate in with fanboy bickering.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Did this dude ^^^^^ say Iphone? Lol

/troll
[HTC EVO 3D] veladem:
If you have enough nuts to call people children online, you must be really mature, when I grow up I want to be just like you... Lol, when I turn twenty.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
You were so close....and then you dropped a "lol". Whatever. It's all a big war, us smart Android users versus the retarded iOS users. We must insult them and belittle them at every step, and we must maim those who say anything remotely positive about iOS.

ANDROID SHALL HAVE NO IDIOTS HURR DURRR DURR
[HTC EVO 3D] veladem:
I think if you could read in my previous posts, maybe three or four back, I said they were both nice phones.

Troll much?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
LS, you keeping up with the Jones' and getting an Lte? This phone (lte) is sheer awesomeness. Comes highly recommended by myself.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
EDIT: Not going to bother.

Absolutely. Just a question of when. I've been eagerly watching the shipping status, but all in all, I look forward to getting a phone that I have no doubt I'll actually keep for the duration of my contract.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Is sprint's LTE going to have the same ****ty range as our 4G?

I heard they're using 2500mhz or something. Isn't that terrible?

EDIT: read on wikipedia that they're deploying LTE on the 1900mhz... Sounds better than 2500 at least... But for LTE-advanced they're going back to 2500? what the hell?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I believe it's 1900Mhz. As of the moment, it'll be average at best until they adopt 800Mhz. Higher the frequency the lesser the range/penetration.
[HTC EVO 3D] SAMPCam:
Wrong. The HTC Rezound has a higher PPI than the iPhone. Looks like you're the one that isn't aware of a lot. :rolleyes:

Google the Rezound engadget review.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
If there's a phone that will make you want to keep it for the life of your contract, this will be it. When I first bought the 3d, I had buyers remorse within days because I felt I'd essentially just burned an upgrade on a phone that wasn't worth it (evo 4g to evo 3d). This phone however...not even a hint of doubt
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Hello.

My name is Steve.

I am an android user, and I also own an iPhone.

I am going to hell.
[HTC EVO 3D] nerotNS:
I admit iOS is more fluid than Android phones but look up why.

1)The UI itself is more different in iOS we have 2D with some 3D effects while in amdroid it's half 2D and half 3D which automatically increases the amount of images to render.

2)Android has a much more complex and better multitasking sytem than iOS(if you can even call pausing apps in background multitasking) and that takes away a lot of memory.So it's no wonder that Android phones get lagy with 6+ apps open at a time.

3)On Android you can change a lot of stuff(ex. drivers kernels CPU clock entire roms etc.) often that a bad combination of these things can lead to lag and not responding. But that's how Android is an many people will get it because of that.On the other hand we have iOS which is "as is" and it works great for people who don't want/don't know how to mess around with the system.

Bottom line both Android and iOS have their up sides and bad sides, but both work perfectly in their own way and they shouldn't be compared like it's a competition.It's up to us to decide what we like better.I also think that we shouldn't flame others just because they didn't agree with our choise.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Fair enough. That is one phone. Care to show me more? It has been, after all, two years since the iPhone 4 was released.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
It's a witch! Burn em!
[HTC EVO 3D] veladem:
I said he couldn't make his phone smooth?
[HTC EVO 3D] diestarbucks:
*Tosses Vin a torch
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
/Looks for ban button
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Don't I get a fair trial?? Like being thrown into the river to see if I sink or swim??
[HTC EVO 3D] diestarbucks:
Oops, I must have stumbled into the wrong thread...;p
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
We're going to light you on fire...if you don't burn, you're a witch...I suppose you've got an app got that fanboy
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
It's not so much an app as it is a better than thou attitude..
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Because I respect you, I'm going to say this now. You aren't going to get anywhere with them. They've already hardwired this stuff into their brains. You're just wasting your time, sadly.

It's not worth it. Let them drown in their own ignorance. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
This is a true statement. But such is the life of fanboys.

This is why I stay out of which is better debates. It really doesn't matter. Android is better for some people and ios is better for some people. I can't stand ios, I think it's over hyped, but for my wife ios is perfect, it fits her. Android is flawed as well, but it fits me.

Who truly cares which has better fps scores?
[HTC EVO 3D] aleni:
Sorry to revive this discussion. With jelly bean focused on project butter, those fanboy are sure admitting that they were wrong about android being smooth before jb
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] errorrat:
Hi, Just wondering if any developers would consider building a paranoid android rom (like http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1628206). I just thought that it looked nice. Anyways, thanks for all the work devs! :)

Update:

Thanks to kevdliu for making this actually happen!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Edit: I'm wrong, an HTC device has this working, so ignore my post.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] arief347:
Nope its worked on htc too..there is htc hd2 finished to port this rom..take a look the blog of paranoid android..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Well dam,I didn't know that. Im always uneasy with Samsung stuff though, I'm strictly HTC.

learned something new today
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] arief347:
So i'm very pleased if someone in here could be developed this rom..

And join us to be part of family paranoid android.. :) .. good luck
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Damn now I have Radiohead in my head.

Ha.

Sent from my Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
This looks awesome!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] hoodieNation:
looks pretty good :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
Seriously want this
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] faehsemc:
Aeroevan paranoidkang???? Lol. You know u want to man...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
Or nits he's used to maintaining 20 roms or so :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
I might know someone who can bring it over
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Bohnsta:
I really would like to see this... Only thing is , our screen is so tiny lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
I don't think it would look bad. Touchpro had a screenie of one of his old ics roms and he was running tablet mode and it looked sick! I know that this isn't tablet mode this is a rom but still looks sick
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] luzfero:
So is this Rom being worked on? I can't wait to try it out.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Someone can use my my port guide, in my signature, to try it out. Just find a HTC device that has the ROM. The mytouch 4g has it
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Travisdroidx2:
Mr. Highway you do not give yourself enough credit. I bet you could port this rom in a quarter of a cigarette not a half ;) Thanks for the reading!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
Does it take a lot of skill? I can't even USB mount my phone to my computer :( not to mention going to the field and work....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kevdliu:
i will give it a shot. we will see
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Travisdroidx2:
Good luck!
[HTC Wildfire S] Shivah:
THE PROBLEM :mad::mad::mad::mad:

is that the root doesnt seem to be a full root:eek::eek::eek:,

I have superuser and titanium seems to think it has full root, but i cant use any of the write commands to get rid of the bloatware for example ....using titanium change loop into a user app - back up and move it to the SD

I desperately need help getting to S-off

WHAT I DID:

I have an unlocked HTC wildfire from Metro PCS

I got it this weekend and updated the phone via the on-air install. As a result

the Metro PSC	1.05.1550.00	PG7621000 <--- changed to 3.*:mad:

I went thru the boot unlocker from htc dev ...it kept telling me the rom chaged and to "upgrade" to 1.05.1550.00	( i know it means to downgrade ) well i couldn't figure out how to do that but i found on androidforums.com/wildfire-s-all-things-root/522781-how-do-i-downgrade-my-wildfire-s-2-00-1550-07-metropcs.html (i cant post links yet) that let me go thru the process and unlock my phone, I got the token and applied it

this is what i got

***UNLOCKED***

MARVEC PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT- 1.10.0001

MICROP-0354

RADIO-0.94.00.1226

Apr 17, 2012 18:21:30

then i rooted the phone using androidforums.com/wildfire-s-all-things-root/546371-how-root-htc-wildfire-s-metro-pcs-marvelc-tested-working.html

then i changed the default install to the SD card using androidadvices.com/how-to-move-applications-to-sd-card-by-default

having said this ... i applied the same changes to my boyfriends wildfire (he had not updated the phone) and everything is working! :| though his version WAS on the HTCdev website and he didn't get an error. His phone is working beautifully :(

please please help. I would appreciate help very much. I'm at a loss now.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sainath1248:
Is there any other way to fix it... Plz let me know..

Doom said wifi modules are included, and no need to flash them..

Plz anyone fix it for this rom:(:(

Xperia X10[LB, DoomV06-FS with FeraV19]
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Speederoff:
use ferakernel .. and flash new feralab v20 .. smooth and stable. :-) Included wifi. 99%. no bug. Here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24637771&postcount=2036
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sainath1248:
Dude Can i have the link to customization pack:):)

Xperia X10[LB, DoomV06-FS with FeraV19]
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xkillswitchx23:
So last week i flash in installed ics for the first time and since then my phone has froze at least 5 times a day to the point that i have to pull the battery. When ever i go to the stock task manager and go to "RAM" tab the ram is always around 550mb-600mb when i only have a few apps running, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. and when i go to "Clear RAM it closes 20+ app.

Is anyone else having this problems? Im running Fe16.

And also whenever i go to the battery tab in the setting the screen takes up 65% of the battery, i also have the brightness a little more than 1/4 of the way up. Is that a bug or will it be like that in the offical build of ics.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] riggs170:
They are leaked builds they are fun to try but they just are not reliable enough for use IMHO

Sent from my Epic Blazer 3G Touch
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] SupaKid:
Yo, guys!

I was hoping someone would be able to help me with theming the Status Bar/lidroid.apk.

From the stock look style we have, now (depending on the ROM), I'd like to get the toggles looking like this:

If anyone knows how to do it, could they at least lead me through the process?

(That Notification App Launcher(?) looks pretty cool, too.)

Thanks for any help, in advance!