yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
OK true dat. She is a technomoron. I have to explain everything to her 10 times. Let me put it this way. I bought her the original Evo 4g and she still has all the original homescreens. People like my sister are why Apple is so popular.

Anyway just got my Note 10.1. All I can say is wow. Fast. Webpages pop up instantly. The note taking with the stylus us uber uber smooth. Very much like writing on paper.

The knock on the Note 10.1 has been the 1280 x 800 Res. I have a feeling they did that to prevent screen lag with the pen. Nevertheless the screen while not AMAZING is perfectly acceptable. It is better than the Tab 10.1 for sure. They did something to make it sharper.

Anyway if you want a big tablet with excellent pen capabilities and you have 5 bills laying around get one. Screen not as good as iPad 3 for same money but the pen kicks ass.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
5 large is a little excessive to splurge on a tablet even if it has a pen....Why do you obsess over the pen so much?

Video is good now, but same blue man issue. Now if I could just remember how I fixed it last time...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] smuvman:
3g data

yn, how is 3g data on your jb beta? my employer got me this view as part of my position and it has a sprint data plan. data was the only reason i couldnt stay with your ics rom. other than that i loved it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I think 3g is working, but I don't have a plan to test with. Here is the list.

touch screen

sound

hw acceleration

video with hw decoding(blue face issue which I hope to fix) netflix, youtube...etc

gps

ums (mount to pc as external harddrive)

3g (unconfirmed but I see the 3g bar)

wifi

pen

scrolling

basically compare to 2.0, we lost camera and microphone. But they might be included in the release if I could fix it quickly.

Also no bluetooth and camcorder which is the same as ics.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] smuvman:
needs

i can deal with losing those few things for awhile but 3g i definitely need. i can test if you want but the fact you see the icon makes me think it will work. it didn't ever come up on the other rom.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Why do I obsess over the pen? I make my living as an executive recruiter and i write A LOT all day while I'm on the phone. I've always wanted an electronic solution to record my notes instead of he reams of paper I use that get lost.

I also do database design and i like to write out ideas when attacking problems. This will be great for that.

I use my tablet as a tool as well as a toy.

And for me, $500 is chump change for a tool that works. I clearly remember the days when even a crap laptop was $3500. This tech nowadays is completely cheap. I paid $1300 for my first cell phone :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] smuvman:
$1300?

BALLLLIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!

(couldn't resist) :laugh:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Yeah dude, and it was the size of a small briefcase. I'm old :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wolfpack612:
lol
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
Wow I can't believe we have a 1% on xda. I thought this is the forum for the 99% :silly:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] microshiroku:
I have data plan, but when done installing, no any network captured, so still unconfirmed, video playback works smoothly..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I'll be releasing a JB version that should match the functionality of ICS. The ICS version will no longer be updated as I can only maintain 1 version.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DevalB:
Will you be updating this thread or creating a new one?

Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] smuvman:
3g?

any idea whether data will work? my view was given to me by my employers as part of my position so I need data. only reason I haven't switched to this rom for daily use.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] j510:
Can't wait for the initial release. Keep us updated!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
Building for release

Finally got headset to work.

So here is what I got in this release.

Touch screen

Sound both speaker and headset

Mic (only headset)

Camera (only back, no video record)

3G (unconfirmed)

GPS

HWA (netflix, youtube....)

UMS

Scrolling Fling issue resolved.

Pen

...

Still no BT and Gallery sometime crashes.... Well you can tell me the rest. Once I finish the build I'll post the link.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I am just going to keep this thread.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
Uploading CGROM 2.1....

Uploading....
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
CGROM RC2.1 Released

ROM upload completed. Please wipe before you install as this is a version upgrade.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/81113130/CGROM_JB_2.1.zip
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AuronHTC:
The 2.1 ROM is working great so far. The 1.5 single core processor on the view is kicking butt with jelly bean.

Thanks for the hard work YNC!

Any tips for disabling the hardware buttons and enabling the nexus 7 tablet ui?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
What is the nexus 7 tablet ui? Do you mean where it's only portrait mode and the notification is on the top of the screen?

I can look into disabling the hw buttons.

Also has anyone tried 3g on the new rom?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Dexter_nlb:
you seemed not to include the active pen feature, you should definately include it. i'm sure the VIEW community will appreciate it.

but nice work!, i will drop my view build from now on, it was anyways impossible to verify what changes were needed.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
Not sure what you mean by active pen. Can you clarify?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] henningspruth:
I just installed 2.1, and it works fine so far.

The pen seems to be functional - Quill works, it is pressure sensitive.

Oops, now the pen stopped working ... trying a reboot.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Dexter_nlb:
active pen differs from capacitive readings, and the pen is not registered as a touchscreen device, since the device will act on pressure and physical positions only. you can find the changes in my source ntrig-v2.c which resolve the handling and uses a different idc file to enable it.

the .h and .c file and .idc file from build is all you need as i recall the change.

quill works in both capacitive and active mode, and per default its capacitive and quill needs active+pressure activated.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rydehard86:
Set dpi to 213 for nexus 7 look. There are instructions on disabling hw keys in this thread. It was just adding a # in front of hw key names in the build.prop. It was around page 20-30 i think.

Sent from my Classic EVO 4g
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I don't see ntrig-v2.c in your source. I see ntrig.orig and ntrig.new and ntrig.c
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Dexter_nlb:
sorry, seemed that i had not uploaded the last updated edition. its posted now.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I see it now. Thanks. I'll give it a try later.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] smuvman:
3g

will try shortly
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] macr0t0r:
My HTC-abandoned tablet has Jelly Bean now? You're a god! However, my wife requires active-stylus support in "Draw Something" (which would require universal support), so it sounds like I need to wait for an update or two. Thanks for your work on this.

- Jim
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cfoesch:
It was not to build.prop, but to /system/usr/keylayout/express-keypad.kl
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AuronHTC:
I should know about the hardware key disable... I wrote that post. Haha. But those directions were for ICS... haven't tired hacking away at JB yet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cfoesch:
I tried it... works like a charm.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jka3588:
Is there anything I can do to help with Bluetooth support? That's the one thing keeping me from upgrading from HC, I need BT for my car. Been following your ROM from the beginning, everything else looks awesome.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
bluetooth might be tough. I'll take a look at it after I get camcorder done.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
Have you tried it? Does it work?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] smuvman:
3g data

IT WORKS IT WORKS!!!! I HAZ JELLYBEAN ON MY VIEW!!!!! lol ok i'm calm now. I can fully confirm 3g data works! icon shows one bar but it works. i'm going to load my apps and run some tests as far as speed. I have sprint service btw. THANK YOU SO MUCH! manhug for you!:D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jka3588:
No rush at all, you have done something truly amazing, and everything you do is very much appreciated.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
made good progress with video recording...was able to record a short film but unforturnly it crash at the end. I doubte that anyone wants to restart their device after each recording...hehe...some might call it a feature
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] j510:
Sounds good! Keep it up!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AuronHTC:
Getting a lot of "this app is not compatible with your device" errors in Google play. Fpse, chrome, and amazon mobile and more won't install.

Anyone else getting the same error? Of so how do we fix it? Thanks.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] smuvman:
feedback

been running for a few hours here's some things/bugs i've noticed

1. when charging by usb it doesn't really charge as fast as it should. I actually lost battery power even though it says "charging" and the charging light is on

2.ext sd card data isn't accessible (you can see the label but when you select it nothing shows up) using astro and the pre-installed file manager)

3.scrolling is jumpy (have to try swiping a few times or be real patient)

4.accessing gallery then selecting picture either using gallery or quickpic causes reboot

5. no usb storage access (unless im missing something) but i got around that using droid explorer

so far thats all i've seen i havent had any compatibility issues with my apps so far (same apps i use on my htc sensation running aokp jb) havent tested 3g speed yet but as i said earlier it IS working even though the icon only shows one bar. any typos or punctuation errors are cuz im tired as hell lol will report later if i notice anything else after more testing. even with those issues i can still use this as a daily. i really thank you man. nothing worse then pulling my tablet out and it was slower than my phone. this FEELS 100x faster now!:highfive:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
2. ext sd card is located at /sdcard2 or /mnt/sdcard2. Maybe you were looking for it the wrong place.

3. scrolling should be much faster, but it also depends on the context. for example if you were loading a website or something and the data hasn't loaded then it could appear that way.

4. known issue, was mentioned in my OP

5. Are you referring to UMS as in access the on board and ext sd via usb as a drive on your PC? If so then you would need to enable UMS, If you mean attaching a USB drive to the view, then I don't know since I haven't tried.

I actually get full bar for 3g even though I don't have data, so that could be just reception.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I get that too. I am not sure if it's because the apps are not updated to support JB, but some apps that was reported as not compatible I was able to side load it and it works fine, so that might an alternative until I find a solution.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] henningspruth:
Some more findings:

1. GPS does not work

2. After sideloading the Netflix app, it allows to pick a Movie, but does not play it (shows a blank screen)

3. The stock launcher has 7 columns and 6 rows, pushing icons to the edge of the screen

4. No YouTube app, can't even find it in the market

5. Inertia scrolling seems to be off

6. After changing the LCD density with one of the market apps, the tablet became unbootable and I had to reinstall

7. During initial setup, su asks for confirmation to allow SuperSu root access, about 10 times

8. WiFi seems to be quite finicky (more so than with ICS)

9. Pen works, but in Quill the pen stroke width is very wide

In any case, thanks a lot YNC!

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Could it be related to the LCD density?

Henning
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Yes, but it has cool menus :)

Don't worry. They will get there. Considering what an obscure device the View is, I'm just happy someone out there is acknowledging our existence.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mumboender:
It is remarkably good for a first run...can't wait to see how it develops. Probably the lack of video playback keeps it from being a daily driver rom. Makes me sad hearing how obscure this device is. It is such a good device. I am using a Galaxy Note right now and I keep going back to the view whenever possible. Don't know why it was such a fail it is the best note taking device I have ever used, the screen is bright, has great viewing angles and despite the single core, I don't feel its any slower than my note with CM9. Sucks that it never took off.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
I blame HTC. They could have had an amazing product with Notes and the stylus, but the app just feels half done. I can think of a half dozen major improvements right off the top of my head that would have been easily implemented and made it a far more popular device. Here are a few:

1. How about a button to activate the keyboard instead of touching the screen?

2. How disabling touch when writing with the pen?

3. How about disabling the hw buttons when writing with the pen?

4. How about a sliding width scale for the pen size?

5. How about making handwritten notes so they can't instantly be wiped out by accidentally hitting the trashcan?

6. How about having and option to turn off the automatic save?

If they had spent half the time on actual functionality instead of fancy menu animations (pretty but useless), they might have really had something here.

But like so many things, HTC has a tendency to release something by a deadline, ready or not, and then they just abandon it. Has there been even a single upgrade for the Notes app? People make these same suggestions all the time at the HTC Forums, but does HTC even try to implement a single one? No.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Samsung took the ball and ran with it on the Galaxy Note. Its a run away best seller. HTC is run by buffoonery .
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Hey OP, You might want to post the source code for at least the kernel. I believe it's one of XDA's rules(actually a GPL rule that XDA enforces). You dont have to post the code to the full rom but I think the GPL requires you to at least post the kernel source. If you notice all kernel threads have a source link. If this sub board had more traffic I'm sure a mod would say something about that. But since this place is a Ghost town things tend to slide around here :) I know a while back with the Dell Streak 7 the dev DJ_Steve didnt post his kernel source (he actually couldnt because of the source of his kernel source) and they actually shut his thread down and it made him pissed enough to leave XDA.. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1240676

Wouldnt want to see that happen here so figured I'd let you know

Here let me paste what the mods said about this issue:

"GPL is nothing to do with "xda's stupid rules". We simply enforce the requirements set out by the GPL. As a kernel developer, you more than most, should know that the source is required when you post a modified kernel, as you have done.

We don't "go picking" on anyone in particular. We deal with all devs who are in the same position, as we come across them."

"Big phones house such Samsung, Dell, HTC well for make it shortly, everyone that use Linux code in their Kernel devices, are forced to pubblic their source in compliant with GPL, rules so we are, i don't see the point why developers that use a big site like this think that they can skip this GLOBAL rule.

We didn't ask you who/where/when and how you did grab that source, we don't care about it, we only requested you to post the source even in a GITHUB form or a zip file uploaded in some anonymous server such Multiupload.

What dvelopers like you don't understand is that we aren't try to go angainst you, check the name of this site, XDA-Developers, this community was founded on developers, so we love and respect all your works but you MUST follow the line, GPL is not a thing that should be skipped and as The_scotsman said, as a kernel developer you must know this.

That's said, we are sorry that you have decided to leave us, seeing comments you are a good developer like all the majority here on XDA us but sometimes these such a things happens when you a trying to let people follow the rules.

Don't blame us for what is happened, Richard Stallman is the man to blame here and don't worry for this thread, as far as you will not try to advertise your new "home" this will be not closed and if in future you will change your idea you will be always welcome here."

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1240676
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
I wonder if I could get away with swearing in here :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] theorie:
Wow! thank you do much for your hard work OP. Really looking forward to this!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] stoudamire:
Just one suggestion: Might you add the version number and the build date to the thread title, pls? It will enable us to see quickly if there is a new version to test. Thanks.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
Done.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] theorie:
Just finished flashing the rom. Works great (except for the things people have already posted about). Nothing new to report from my install.

Looking forward to development on this ROM, let us know how we can help.

Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
I saw the red square around the edges.

I think that's from compiling with an engineering build, if it's done with userdebug it shouldn't be there.

Not sure of what's the cause as we can't see any source, but some of those should be relatively easy fixes.

Microphone could be just the matter of the kernel or some missing files or settings in the build.

Camera, since the view is probably using same camhal sources, just try twistedumbrella's camerahal (every unofficial htc ICS AOSP rom is using it). Video recording could be a later priority if it doesn't work, but camera and videochat should be working 100%.

red outline is just a matter of building with userdebug, should be a simple fix.

Games not working on touch could be that unity bug, need to turn on legacy touchscreen option as a fix.

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Great work overall, you got something that many of us couldn't do for days. I'd like to help out or contribute in any way I could if we are to perfect this build.

Do you have sources for your kernel? I'd really appreciate it if we could have a look.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I just got a PM from the moderator that it has come to his attention that this thread will be close unless I upload the source to the kernel within 48 hours.

Now I will upload the kernel source code which I had every intention to do so as it's not that secretive, we just took the HC kernel source from htc and made some small modifications to fit htc view.

But I believed that our time was better spent to get things to work. Unfortunely some ppl don't even have the patients to wait a few days. As a developer, I personal benefited from the openess of the open source community. So sharing our changes is not an issue for me, but I really don't like it when we are doing a good thing and we get threats from ppl, this is very discouraging.

As a view owner myself, I started this project with the hope of reviving the love we had for this device as it has been abondand by HTC and the rest of the development community.

With that said, I hope you would understand that we're going to take few days off to tender to our hurt feelings.

Ps. the kernel source will be uploaded tonight.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
Don't take it personally. No idea who reported you but it's not your fault. The mods are just strict and doing their jobs in the spirit of XDA, which is to follow and respect the Linux GPL, which wants kernels open sourced.

I got the same thing said to me before with some other devices where I forgot to upload my source. Saw it happen in other sections too.

Since then I've kept it sync'ed on github to keep everyone happy.

Anyways, I hope maybe we can get this working good. Is WiMax a concern for users here? I don't think it'll be working for awhile too.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
I understand all that, I guess it's just feel like getting stab in the back by the ppl you're trying to help. That's not pleasant and makes you want to stop helping. But I am serious about take a few days off, we have not been getting a lot sleep for the past few weeks getting this thing to work and we could really take some time off to clear our heads. Now that the source is out there, maybe by the time we come back it's already done =)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
I understand completely. I took over a month off from my other projects just because of the feelings I got from the amount of work involved vs what I got back. It's not worth loosing sleep over, but I bet you were super relieved when it booted, I was still frustrated every TIME I couldn't get it to boot, lol! That feeling to keep going until it finally works.

I'm sure this was no easy task to accomplish. I couldn't figure out the view kernel for awhile and gave up. But hey, you managed to do something including cayniarb/Tiamat and other kernel devs didn't be able to accomplish. That's a major milestone, and it only means getting CG ROM perfected.

PS, are there one of you or more on this project? I saw you mentioned 'us' so it sounds like there's multiple people on your team.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
Me and my multiple personalities:)

Not going to sleep over this, was hoping to get some sleep. Btw the red border has nothing to do eng build.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
Sorry to hear that they're giving you grief.

Take all the time off you need. No reason you should be slaving over a device when it's not your job to do so.

At least on the bright side, maybe someone can lend a helping hand once they see the source code, so that your work is reduced when you come back from your break.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
I doubt anyone reported you. Mods probably have some sort of code that searched for roms without kernel sources uploaded. There are so few people in the community I would be totally shocked if someone tried to screw up our chances to have ICS.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Whoareyou:
Hey, um, would replacing some libs with the ones from the flyer ics aosp work?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
This is the original wording from the mod
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] joytofender:
Will download and try over the weekend! :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] suromot:
i only have one complaint: i cant tether. when i try to tick the option on, the text grays and thats it, the box wont tick and tethering doesnt work.

yes i really need tethering capabilities since ive just renewed a quite substantial data plan :silly:

when my data plan expires i most certainly will use this ROM. hopefully though at that time you have managed to fix it :fingers-crossed:

great work. love it.

ps: two additional minor complaints/questions:

1. i cant find the mass storage made. when i plugged to pc there's no charge only/data options as in HC. ive tried to find in the settings menu yet cant find it.

2. the green pen capacitive button doesnt light on and doesnt work. i really love to be able to capture screenschot using it, though can still get it from other ways.

great job. once again.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cfoesch:
https://www.eviscerati.org/comics/comic/hd/1996/04/guttenbergs-dillemma, enjoy...

Also, yeah, I noticed that I can't USB mass storage mount either...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yncconsulting:
U r right. In my test version it was working not sure what happened.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wa0qbu:
3G

I also have 3G working with data normal speeds using the Boost network. Great Rom Thanks for all your work.