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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
Link me a review that says the camera is bad on the hox ..I've seen ppl say its a little saturated in some cases but that's it ...I have the phone andthe pictures is great. The UI is the best out ..out of all things to complain about on this phone the camera in not one

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The One X continues this trend by delivering one of the best all-round imaging experiences we've come across without sacrificing quality -- thanks to an 8-megapixel backside-illuminated sensor, an incredibly wide aperture f/2.0 autofocus lens (vs. f/2.2 on the Amaze 4G, f/2.4 on the iPhone 4S, f/2.65 on the Galaxy S II and f/2.8 on the N8) and an extra processor called the ImageChip.

That's straight from engadget

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It's clear that the EVO 4G LTE camera delivers. As expected, it takes lovely pictures with the same impressive low-light performance, striking colors and balanced exposure as the One X and One S. The features are identical too, with HDR and panorama modes plus a full set of real-time Instagram-like filters

Do you want more...I mean right in the pros of the device it says stellar camera ...and as we all know engadget is no fanboy of HTC as shown in the 3d review
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
The camera on this phone is great, best one I've had on a phone by far. Of course it could be better, but come on. what are you doing with it. if you want professional pictures buy a nice camera. The evo is more than capable for everyday pictures. All that waiting and *****ing, it finally comes. everyone is happy for about 10 seconds. Is anyone just happy how kick ass this phone is?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
The screen is no comparison. If your rating the screen based on super bright colors then really you shouldn't even post. The evo is hi def. Not bright eye candy for children
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
I didn't say the camera was bad. I said it was definitely above average, but I said it wasn't as good as HTC hypted it up to be... And it actually takes worse photos under normal lighting than the the Samsung GS2 (from personal experience) and the GS3 (from reviews)

Why don't you search the reviews yourself? I'll give you a few quotes, but I already told you which sites you can go to read about it:

From the verge (http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/2/2919202/htc-one-x-review):

As for image quality, I can't confidently say these are the best cameraphone photos I've ever seen, which was what I was expecting considering what a big deal HTC had made about it when these handsets were announced several weeks ago. I was hopeful that the shots I took would be indistinguishable from a decent point and shoot, but at 100 percent crop, the One X's stills are easily identified as coming from a cameraphone. They're not bad, they're just not the game-changers I'd been led to believe they'd be.

from android central (http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x-second-opinion)

Photos taken on the One X look good from a distance, though up-close you’ll see some graininess and artefacting, even in perfectly-lit shots. For better or worse, it’s clear that there’s some pretty aggressive post-processing and noise reduction going on.

While the One X handles low-light still shots well enough, video recording in less-than-perfect lighting remains HTC’s achilles heel. At 720p or higher in darker conditions, the frame rate is cut back to a dismal 19 fps. It’s a depressingly familiar story for anyone who’s used HTC phone cameras over the past couple of years, and means it means the One X’s video camera is less versatile than much of the competition.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
My thoughts exactly ..its supposed to look realistic. Not like a comic book or cartoon ..the more I get used to this phone the better or is ..one thing I hope they fix the multi tasking ..lime it reloads webpages when u switch between tabs ..it wasn't like that on my 3d ..also the stock browser is fast but doesn't swipe up and down as easily ..I could flick from bottom to top with my 3d
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
I don't care about reviews I'm holding the phone in my hand. I haven't stopped taking pictures since I got it, because it's the balls Samsung fanboy, geez
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
I can comprehend someone liking the screen of the GSII better. But I CANNOT comprehend someone thinking the GSII has a more life-like screen. It is vibrant, but very fake looking.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
Now that I can agree with.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
So verge had hopes set to be like a 1000+$ camera in a phone

And video is a diff story from a camera lol camera tech I would assume is 100 times easier then camcorder tech most cameras you buy in a store that do video is not amazing quality for recordings. Hence there are camcorders lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
Did I say something to offend you? I think we know who the fanboy is, HTC butt buddy. If the camera is good enough for you, well congratulations. It's not good enough for me. Why do you act like I'm talking bad about your mama?

If you're under 15 years of age, I take back what I just said. cuz that would pretty much explain it.

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Let me break this down for you.

During the HTC launch event, THEY THEMSELVES said the One series cameras were comparable to DSLRs. THEY hyped it.

If they're going to hype the camera like that, it should AT LEAST be the best smartphone camera on the market.

It's not. Not even close. Hence the disappointment.

Get it? Good.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Well i would expect htc fanboys on an htc thread. Samsung fanboys are annoying on any thread. Always blathering on about amoled. Like a bird seeing a bright trinket
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
No where did I see someone saying the sgsii or ip4s have better camera's...

I'm just curious as to info is coming from you are putting out that's all. I know many HTC cameras have sucked and they also have their quirks hell the gn I got I thought would suck cause its Sammy bit its nice
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
Umm, this thread is a thread about the Evo and the E4GT.

Here's the sad part. You all who are attacking me are HTC fanboys. I'm being OBJECTIVE and you are too blinded by your fanboyism to see that. I have no ties to Samsung--in fact, I would PREFER not to buy Samsung phones because I don't like them as a company. That's why I currently own the Evo LTE. I WANTED to like it and keep it. But given what matters to me in a smartphone, it looks like Samsung has delivered better than HTC once again. I'll find out for sure when the GS3 is released in the US, but so far that's where I stand.

And just to be clear--I'm in NO WAY saying that the Evo is a bad phone. It's a GREAT device. I'm just not happy with the camera. Clear enough?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I wasn't even talking about you. Did you say anything about the screen or are you just paranoid. I believe I was pretty clear on discussing the screen.

But since you keep talking about it..

The camera for the new line of htc hero phones has been received well in reviews. I think the software is very cool. But it's still a phone. It still has hardware restrictions
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
Some people are just never happy and I attacked your opinion not you if you can't take it don't post a goofy opinionated thread.... Samsung buttbuddy.... Witty
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
It's coming from my own personal experience. I'm a semi-professional photographer, btw.

But if you don't believe me and need to see it in writing on the Internet, here you go:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/TelecomTech/8112

and btw, in all my posts, I have been referring to IMAGE QUALITY only. The One X camera interface is GREAT. My issues are only with the images themselves. I recognize that some of you don't care and that the One series camera quality is "good enough." Great. I'm simply expressing my opinion for those that use their phone as a point and shoot replacement and care about this stuff.

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You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I didn't make this thread. I'm simply responding to some of the posts in it.

And you really should be basing your "attacks" on my opinion with some facts. Not just emotional fanboyism.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
I'm sorry I meant to write "post to the thread", i didn't know who's thread it was. But with your unbelievable reading comprehension i can see how you got that. I'm sorry you're right, I'm wrong. after all your a semi professional photographer, I certainly am not. Oh and it's based on the fact that I'm using it, not some terrible review you read.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Well I enjoyed that review actually now if you would have linked the review in your first post and say here are my takes on the camera would have saved a whole lot of arguing and your a fanboy I'm a fanboy nonsense . Now with that said I'm sure things will get better sense 4 is new ya know as well as some of the tech they threw in so not all that shocking and HTC has been known to change internal things here and there w diff hw versions.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
I say we agree to disagree
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
I say this thread is irrelevant
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
Most def. Its not even a fair comparison. Technology evolves so people should too because no matter how u slice it the eco 4g lte is hands down a better device. End of story.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
First, I would like to say that at some point, our phones will not make GIANT jumps in improvement over their predecessors. I think that's what we're seeing right now. They've improved the software, and now we can even take pictures while recording video. Plus they've put all of this into a slimmer, sleeker phone with awesome battery life. I'm impressed.

Second, why can't someone just take the same picture with both phones and end this thread?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] QWIKSTRIKE:
This is what every one that tries the phone say to the point. Oversaturation, but blacks are more richer on samoled
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
First is epic touch second is EVO LTE

Sorry when I sent it to the LTE it rotated
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RichTJ99:
Umm, so is the radio better on the E4GT or the Evo?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
Sideways pic is epic touch

Sorry again I tried rotating back still won't go right lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
Well it depends on the modem with epic touch

But the newest one is loud and clear on calls but also goes into roaming more often for me speeds and tiny bit better for me on the LTE .

But its also the area you are in I'm by nyc
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kidromulous:
Honesty I much prefer the evo pic. I certainly no nothing about photography but that's what my eyes say
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
In both of those sets of pictures the lte is far superior ..and if u don't like the lte bc the camera is not good enough than looks like u will never be happy BC IMO its the best available in the us ATM
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
I have to agree while the sgsii looks more colorful the EVO looks more realistic and captures the light a ton better and I see what people mean by noise in the picture EVO has a lil more.then the sgsii however I still have to say EVO picture wins as far as overall quality and realism goes.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
Thanks for posting, but these aren't full size images so you can't really evaluate image quality. Even so, I think this images show what I and a lot of the reviews have said about the Evo camera. The images are good, but overprocessed--much like the iPhone.

A lot of people will prefer the overprocessed images, though, for the same reason that a lot of people prefer SAMOLED displays. Oversaturated (i.e., over-exaggerated) colors "pop" more than accurate colors. But that's not what high quality images are supposed to do. However, if you enjoy the processed images, more power to you. You probably also love the filters on Instagram. I'm not about to argue with you about personal taste. All I've done in this thread is give an objective point of view about the Evo camera vs. its competition.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
I hate instagram I played with it for a week or two n.deleted it lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
Idk why when I got the pic mms from my epic touch it won't let me fix it upright oh well you guys see the difference is clear LTE has overall better pics until you try to zoom an issue every HTC has .

Samsung zooms after pic is taken much closer than HTC .

But I noticed upon every pic I took the same between the both the LTE is just better
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
I think the radio is the weakest thing about the E4GT. It was far inferior to the Motorola Photon I had before it, and so far, the Evo radio seems better in terms of 3G speed and picking up signal in weak areas

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I'm sure a lot of casual users would agree with you.

No one who is even remotely into photography would agree with that. The GS2 pics would be far more preferable.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Everyone knows moto is impossible to beat when it comes to radios in cells only other company that has been on par from my experience is Nokia but it has been years since I have used a Nokia
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
I agree but most users are not to into photos that much idk maybe I'm wrong ,

The epic has great optics seems more realistic well the feel of it once again just opinion.

But when first review of the same pic the LTE stands out more to most the people I showed so far trust me I love both the phones both are great at what they do .

I'm not saying your wrong infact with phones I really don't take that many pics only when I first get them :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Semantics:
I own both, and I disagree on the screen. Amoled is akin to turning your HDTV on dynamic mode. It is bright and flashy but its certainly not natural. I've never seen a phone with a nicer screen and natural colors. The camera on my EVO is light years better, as well.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kellyrx8:
I too cant stand the over-saturated colors on AMOLED screens...makes pictures and wallpapers look over processed and unnatural.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
Heres three more phones are

Epic touch

EVO LTE

EVO design

No specific order just tell me what you think its a close shot of my laptop

Showing blacks and brights
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Merp I can't decide between 2 or 3 which one I like better lol

I think I like 3 as it shows more light and the whites.look clean
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
I think the middle and right r better but the right is the best ..I think most devices can take that photo relatively well tho
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
Yea I keep looking at both the first is clearly the design
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Yeah that seems like a worse camera then 3d but maybe not lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
I agree yes but the second is the epic touch which shows much brighter blacks and the yellow color sticks out more .

But the third the EVO LTE seems more clear and covers more area ..

Just opinion again
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
I will.agree.to.that

Edit as the person taking the pics compared to how it looks in real life vs the pics which one is closer to being realistic
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
All I know is I love this phone and ccamera ..I just took my 5 month old lil girl to the pool for the first time and ggot great shots ..above quality I'm able to get pics that I would never be able to b4..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Cute kid man
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
I can actually see individual blade of grass in the evo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] alchemist316:
2 more can anyone please try to mms from another phone to the LTE and post it see if it comes out sideways because look I chose the pic that's upright but uploading comes sideways lol ..

Anyways like before epic is sideways
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Antebios:
I don't know what you're smoking, but I just grabbed my wife's SGS2 and the EVO LTE screen was sooo much better, it was night and day. The SGS2 screen was nowhere near as bright or crisp compared to the EVO. Without my glasses I can see the SGS2 pixels, but I can't see the EVO's pixels. The screen is that good.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PoorCollegeGuy:
when/if i eventually get my evo lte, i'll be posting a similar thread that's hopefully a little more detailed.

Dude the reason why your camera sucks is probably because you're shooting with default settings. Change the settings = better pictures. Why shoot on default settings both outside and inside when both require drastically different settings?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Antebios:
I just finished playing with the camera, and holy **** it's cool! The best pictures are when I was in HDR mode.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mykrlz182:
I can't take this thread seriously, I mean I'm looking at my EVO and the wife's E4gt and the screen is like night and day. The Evo destroys it in resolution, clarity, and color accuracy. It's not even a fair fight I could see the giant pixels on the E4gt! And I'm a "semi professional" screen guy lol! As for the camera if anything they are about the same. The Evo has better color reproduction and the E4gt has a little less noise. That hardly means the E4gt blows it out of the water they both have their strengths and weaknesses.

From my long awaited and totally worth it EVO LTE!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
I'm really not sure why I even bother trying to help out by providing actual objective, useful information. It seems like 90% of ppl here only want to read self-masturbatory posts that cheerlead the phone they already have. If someone says anything remotely positive about another phone, they get attacked. If someone mentions something about the Evo that isn't positive, they get attacked. It's a pretty sad state of affairs for XDA, quite frankly.

Here are my final thoughts on the matter. And actually, they're not opinions. They're fact:

The Evo's screen is MUCH more accurate in terms of color reproduction than the ET4G's. There's no contest here. SAMOLED screens are known for their color saturation and SOME people like that. It's not realistic, though, and that's a fact.

Now here's where I find some serious hypocrisy--several Evo owners say they love the Evo screen because the colors are way more realistic and more accurate than SAMOLED. But then when they compare the cameras, they prefer the Evo's pictures because the colors "jump out" at them. That's when I LAUGH at the hypocrisy because guess what? The Evo's camera does EXACTLY what SAMOLED screens do--oversaturate the colors. They are NOT realistic. I have no problem if people prefer the Evo's overprocessed images, but when they say they look more realistic, they lose all credibility.

So in summary, the Evo's screen is incredible. The best I've seen personally. The Evo's camera is good, but not great. Given its superior optics (f/2.0 aperture), it should have been great. But it's a disappointment because it's not.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
So what would he your daily driver than...what camera is better..? Maybe u had very high expectations that are hard to meet in a camera phone..for me I didn't noitice the blowout colors in shots..I didn't examine them just took quick shots and got satisfying results with little effort and extreme speed..just the interface puts in in it own league..i hope u find the camera u are waiting for...or maybe u did in the epic I dunno
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ElephantKiller:
Sheesh they're just phones, people. Vaguely different yet individually fine phones.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
I'm still using the GS2 as my daily driver because I prefer the camera. I walk around NYC a lot and take a lot of pictures of random things. I prefer the GS2's more accurate and more detailed still photos to the Evo's. Lugging around a DSLR or even a point and shoot camera is not an option for me so I depend on my phone's camera quite a bit.

I WISH I could carry around the Evo as my daily driver since it's the latest device and is superior to the GS2 in almost every other way. I'm holding out some hope that HTC will revamp the image processing in future firmware revisions, but at the same time I'm not holding my breath. When the GS3 comes out in the US, I will definitely give it a try and if the camera is as good as initial reviews say it is, that will probably become my daily driver. My dream scenario, though, is that HTC gets rid of the overprocessing in the camera and the Evo becomes my phone for the next year or so.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
Have u tried playing with the settings or lowering contrast etc.I'm.not good with that kind of stuff but I know a lot of ppl get good results with a couple adjustments...what part of ny do u live in..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] limeaid:
Yes, I've tried playing with the settings. No go. The problem is the camera has a lot of automatic post-processing that you can't disable as long as you use the sense camera app.

I live in Manhattan--lots of things to take pictures of every day
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
I think I remember when they announced the one x that you could get the raw unprocessed image, I may be wrong and I wouldn't know how to do it. Does that even help the people that don't like the overprocessed shots? I really don't know enough about it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
I grew up in corona bf moved out to nc a few years ago..had a lot of family that worked in tribeca..and yea a lot of photo ops out there..maybe when aosp comes we will see what happens
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I have to agree with this. I was thinking the same thing. Just got my Evo and LOVE it. Will love it more with AOSP/AOKP. Why in gods name did they build it with a dedicated camera button?! And it's right where your palm is constantly mashing it against it, even when unlocking the phone. Why, HTC, why?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This video says it all
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
How do I get my phone to use the YouTube app when clicking on a link..used to bring up the option to use internet of yt app
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
See if it allows you in app associations if not you have to be rooted and delete a file... Hold on
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] freeza:
Have you tried playing with any of the camera settings or do you just launch the software and start snapping photos? Some of the best pictures I've taken with any phone has been from me manually setting things according to my environment. I'm sure Samsung has their defaults different than HTC. If you set both cameras to similar settings in what their software will allow, maybe then you'll get a more accurate comparison. I find it hard to believe that the majority of people would find a one and a half year old camera on the GS2 better than the One X line, specifically the EVO LTE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
u can do this w root explorer as well
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] albie1937:
I'm on the fence about getting the evo 4g lte. I have the international HTC One X on Straight Talk and it's awesome. I get really good HSPA+ speeds. I only pay 50 bucks a month with unlimited talk n data. I'm still with Sprint also but I love the freedom of having a GSM phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Then you basically have the phone already. W the freedom of.moving carriers etc
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] albie1937:
True dat! LTE is not a big issue for me. I have achieved freedom. Just have to cancel Sprint account.