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[Networking] :
i think you've completely missed the point of what my post was about?

the point is that three have to be honest with its customers and whilst I would never use three again other than a topic of amusing conversation, they told me one thing and provided me with another, something the mobile phone industry should be against.

the only distinction they make between all you can eat data on the one plan and on any other tariff is tethering not this "proper unlimited" you mentioned.

They need to realise that its possible to transfer a serious amount of data simply using apps on the handset.

It wasn't so much a sale pitch i got from three it was an intelligent conversation between a potential customer asking a series of perfectly reasonable questions.

thanks for the reply tho.
[Networking] otester:
He may well have been ignorant of the fact and a salesmen is just there to promote/sell a product, the actual deal is the contract, let this be a lesson, read.

Any ways it's PAYG, use it outside of 3pm-midnight or upgrade next month....
[Networking] ahmadcentral:
Why are people still complaining without any proof

Have you asked them why they removed the data

did the 30 day period run out?

Did you top up the £15 AYCE data + 300 mins add on thingy

How much data did you actually use.?

Did you tether?

Does the data not work at all or does it work at certain time?

It is truly unlimited. If one friend of mine was able to use over 140GB last month then it is pretty much unlimited.

Please don't jump to conclusions, it's ignorant.

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Need more info to deduce if this is traffic sense or not.

What tariff are you one etc..
[Networking] oliverthered:
I'm gtetting seriously throttled

I'm getting seriously throttled from 7pm till 1am and even in the day time yesterday. not even throttling, to the point of hardly even being able to connect a lot of the time which is even worse. not on the one plan but an AYKE. I did get a tethering message, even though I'm using a tablet with all the same apps as my phone, but chrome appears to be the culprit on that front. going to go an compaline that i paid for all you can eat not all we will let you eat, esp with the innability to connect the maority of the time which is seriously annoyingly unusable internet. posting from my tablet, internet is working fine now it's gone 1am. yes i did download a load of linux distros ON MY PHONE, i have a 16gb sd card for it so that's no problem.
[Networking] otester:
Upgrade or learn to live with it.
[Networking] oliverthered:
I don't mind upgrading but I still paid for all you can not all we will let you. and the internet doesn't even connect to a server half the time, slow I could deal with. html only no youtube I could deal with. having to click repost 10 or 20 times because it simply won't connect is unnacceptable
[Networking] otester:
The deal was in the contract and that's what you paid for, if you had read it, you would have known, learn2read.
[Networking] oliverthered:
what deal? being unable to connect to websites? this is not a tethering issue if that's what high horse your on. I downloads linux distros, do file sharing, watch movies etc... on my phone too, it has a 32gb sd card in it.
[Networking] otester:
Basically anything other than Port 80(HTTP) is throttled during peak times on non-One Plan's.
[Networking] oliverthered:
if you could read in the first place I may take your advice

Here is how it is advertised, the green one in the middle. http://www.three.co.uk/Store/Mobile_Phone_Price_Plans I would suggest you learn 2 read but I'm above such childish taunts from people who don't even know what they are talking about.

This is not a tethering issue either

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If you had actually read what I'd written I can't even connect to the internet, as in get could not connect to server messages, this is beyond throttling. also 99% of what I use is on port 80, eg this web site which is on http for me. (even though I'm logged in so that's a bit of a bad security risk on the part of xdadevelopers)
[Networking] otester:
The contract is what matters, not the advertisement, that's just to get your attention.

If you couldn't connect it's probably a device issue then cuz even with with TrafficSense you get 100Kbps on throttled stuff (tested this before upgrading to One Plan).
[Networking] oliverthered:
I don't think it's a device or connectivity issue at the data icon is doing it's stuff, the problem clears without resetting the device, resetting the device makes no difference and also if I trigger a no tethering page delibratly they come up instantly, repeatedly and with no problems even if I am having serious problems otherwise.
[Networking] swukjay:
Here is one for you to ponder, I Was getting throttled on payg phones from 3 til 12 am using a i9000/zte blade and a hd2, upgraded to a Huawei ascend p1 and the throttling went !!!! Just went and bought a galaxy s3 yesterday sim free thinking it would be ok , BIG MISTAKE stuck my sim in as soon as it has hit 3pm device is throttled, put it back in the ascend working fine , something in western corporate devices firmware is different from communist Chinese firmware that the network cant detect to throttle, there must be something embedded in the packets that the network can detect on those phones that they cannot detect on the ascend ! Galaxy S3 is going on ebay ! thanks but no thanks lol
[Networking] otester:
You need the One Plan, and when you switch SIM, turn your phone off or restart it just resets the throttle until you do something else which is restricted then it throttles again.
[Networking] swukjay:
Did you not read? I have bypassed the tethering and throttling detection, you may not believe me but the ascend p1 is using a payg sim and tethering with no network slow down after 3pm , the samsung slow down at exactly 3pm, don't believe me? then read this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2057344
[Networking] otester:
Be interesting to see if that method works but I think it focuses more on changing the APN, something that wouldn't change anything (apart from parental controls) on H3G.

The throttling may just be device/IMEI specific, like Three's anti-dongle policy with AYCE plans, it doesn't work in my Huawei dongles, but it works in my Zoom 3G dongle (shame Zoomtel don't make any HSPA+ dongles).

Also have you tested P2P/VPN?
[Networking] 30secondstosam:
Genuinely not posting this to piss people off but I have the One Plan and I just don't have this issue. I get avg 7Mbs connection (lowest 4Mbs highest 9Mbs). I've chosen not to have broadband due to these speeds. I can stream HD video, download big files quickly enough.. So I tether. And it's not been an issue yet.

Reading some of your posts is really.discouraging though. I hope it stays good. Otherwise this 'all you can eat data' will be a bit of a sham. Also hope three sort.it out for the rest of you
[Networking] abu_6:
throttling on the one plan

so I starting using the one plan with tethering included £25 pound month rolling contract.

I have only used the plan for less than three days and have used less than 3 gb data and yet I am receiving speeds bellow 500kb.

I am lucky I am on a rolling monthly contract, so i have freedom to cancel any time I want. However, before i do that i tend to speak to them tomorrow to what they have to say about It.
[Networking] otester:
I would speak to their blog/twitter team if you want any meaningful discussion.

Could just be that your area is congested, try different times of the day, restart your phone, post back with your findings and also your signal strength.
[Networking] nasher123:
Thanks
[Networking] Duke McAwesome:
I get this when I try to use µTorrent on the phone. I've never tried to use my phone for tethering so was quite surprised to see this message.
[Networking] cirian75:
3 block torrents

That's TrafficSenses main purpose
[Networking] otester:
You should have got the One Plan.
[Networking] donza:
I do about 1TB download a month via tethering, not experiencing any throttling here..

haha funny thing is i work at three too, but this is a personal contract im using, and not a staff line.
[Networking] jonmorris:
I was quite impressed at being able to get through almost 10GB in a few days in a cottage up on a hill in Wales recently - and getting DC-HSPA too. No throttling there either.
[Networking] topcat07:
What the hell 1tb on what?! Lol

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Without reading all 96 pages if I take out a one plan 24 month contract am I going to get throated speed wise? think I will be well under 40gb a month. I expect speeds of around 4mb upwards..

I would appreciate if people advise before I take it out
[Networking] jonmorris:
1TB in a month is quite a lot, but most of my high traffic in a short space of time was using Sky Go, including downloading a few programmes to watch offline. Netflix is another way you can easily consume data at a crazy rate.
[Networking] connorl9382:
200GB a month and i'm fine

Using around 200GB-300GB per month on my Galaxy S3, Portable Hotspot for the whole house so used pretty much 24/7 for iPlayer, Sky Go and Netflix, let alone all the other crap I download.

No slow speeds here, around 13mbps down and 3 up so MUCH better than 5/0.2mbps on Sky BB.

Fingers crossed no Throttling soon, got off the phone with Three, nice woman called "Daphne" said that the throttling limit is flexible depending on the mast and number of users etc so no definite answer.
[Networking] otester:
Seems they do traffic prioritisation.
[Networking] Jme369:
Seems a bit of a nicer way to do throttling, sucks that they do it though.
[Networking] nellisere:
3gb in my first 4 days (don't know about the rest of the month till my next bill), not on the one plan but £12.90 for AYCE, speeds vary alot, between 1Mbps and 15Mbps down, but I can still get high speeds after 3pm, no throttling for me, torrents also work without an issue.
[Networking] ahmadcentral:
Are you actually being serious?

1TB on a 3G connection??? I mean it is theoretically possible but i just can't believe someone would actually use that much.

I've been using upwards of 60GB in the past few months and no throttling here. Plus i'm getting speeds over 20Mbps+
[Networking] nellisere:
I've seem usage like that before, One of my friends gets 1Mbps on fixed broadband, 18Mbps on Three, so they got the one plan and use a phone as a hotspot for the whole house.
[Networking] padlad:
I wonder if Three are going to get their hands slapped anytime soon going off this article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/18/asa_t_mobile/

' T-Mobile UK can no longer describe its "Full Monty" mobile broadband tariff as "unlimited", thanks to a ruling by the advertising watchdog. And all because the network operator slowed down BitTorrent traffic during the day.

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has decreed that "unlimited" can legitimately be applied to an internet service which caps both upload and download speeds, and one which blocks access to SMTP email servers and shreds suspicious emails going in either direction.

But limiting the speed of peer-to-peer file sharing during the day flies in the face of "unlimited" and thus can't be permitted, said the watchdog, so T-Mobile won't be allowed to use the term any more.

The U word has been widely debated before: companies are keen to slide small print under every occurrence as genuinely unlimited internet access would be irresistible to the spammers, scammers, crackers and crooks for whom the ISP is a barrier to their business of choice. However, never before has a regulator been so explicit on what is allowed in the small print under the U word, and what goes beyond the pale.

T-Mobile, like all mobile and fixed operators, has a network traffic management policy which it argues is necessary to maintain performance for the benefit of the vast majority of users who aren't taking the piss.

That includes capping download speeds at 4Mb/sec (enough for a HD YouTube stream) and uploads at 1Mb/sec, as well as filtering out spam messages and blocking access to remote SMTP servers to avoid spammers using the network. All of that was acceptable to the ASA.

T-Mobile throttles peer-to-peer transfers from 8am through to 2am, leaving only a six-hour window during which BitTorrent can be used with alacrity. The rest of the time it works, just not very quickly, and that was enough to uphold a complaint and prevent the "unlimited" word being used again in marketing.

The ASA has form in objecting to speed controls: last month it decided that Virgin Media's decision to slow down users in the UK who'd exceeded their daily allowance "limited" the service, again denying the network use of the U word in its future advertising.

Ofcom, Britain's telecommunications regulator, reckons traffic management isn't an issue. Competitive pressure keeps the options open, and some form of traffic management is to the benefit of most users as long as providers are open about it, we're told.

It might seem self evident that any massaging of network packets prevents access being "unlimited", so no UK ISP should be allowed to use the term, but as long as the ASA permits exceptions for caps and blocks, and until some marketing drone comes up with an equally evocative phrase, we'll keep arguing about what exactly the U word means.'
[Networking] otester:
T-Mobile got what they deserved, they should have been upfront with people in the first place and invested more in their network so they can manage it like 3 does.

Difference is 3 only throttle P2P during peak times (easily circumventable any ways).
[Networking] ahmadcentral:
Yep, at least Three actually tell their customers what there getting. And apart from the throttling last year (which i never personally experienced) they're the number 1 choice by far if you want unl data and tethering with no restrictions.

How do you get around the P2P block? VPN? Is there a way to get around the tether block on PAYG sims?
[Networking] otester:
With PAYG SIMS there is a rumour of editing some files on the phone to prevent throttling but you'll have to google XDA for that.

On One Plan you can use VPN/SOCK5 proxy for torrent and SSL for usenet.
[Networking] E_Goldstein:
I don't know we're you get your info from but this is wrong
[Networking] cirian75:
We got that info from Three them selves!

and the work one of use did in getting WoW unblocked reviling the p2p block method.
[Networking] nellisere:
They don't block torrents, I've been able to torrent without a problem, although they do 'manage' it at peak times.
[Networking] E_Goldstein:
I download torrents daily, three told in store and on the phone I'm allowed to dl torrents lol
[Networking] ahmadcentral:
Torrents aren't blocked. But they are traffic managed (throttled) at peak times.

Much like Talk Talk and other ISP's do.
[Networking] cirian75:
getting that "TrafficSense" feeling again :(

been in my new place 3 months, my flatmates has had his bank account defrauded a huge amount, thus Sky have not been paid = temp cut off

so put my phone by the window where it was getting 5 to 7 mbps in this new place

Now 15.00 to 00.00 it wont go above 1mbps (average 500kbps), waited till just gone midnight, rocketed to 7mbps
[Networking] otester:
Upgrade to One Plan.
[Networking] cirian75:
I've been on the one plan since I took the contract out 20 months ago!
[Networking] otester:
Wait until you can cancel it, then take out a new one, some old ones got stuck with Traffic Sense.
[Networking] cirian75:
rang up a *****ed quite at lot

hey presto, my post 15.00 speed is back
[Networking] otester:
That's the other way of getting it fixed, I just didn't want to sentence you to a phone call of missery :p
[Networking] topcat07:
I'm on the one plan in the mornings get 17mps in the afternoon around 6-10 in the evings 512kps

This is normal use no torrenting they keep sending problem to engineers. Been backwards and forwards between engineers for 17 days now still broke

If any one can help me fix this would really appreciate or I am going to cancel contract

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What did you exactly say please and which team did you speak to was it 2nd line thank you
[Networking] otester:
How long have you been on One Plan?

Define normal use? Tethering?
[Networking] topcat07:
Thanks for getting back to me contract started about 14 days ago, 24 month one.

Normal use hd YouTube videos, bbc I player, catch up TV either all either doesn't work or buffers in evenings works in morning fine.

Speed tests which average max 512kps are done on the mobile app..
[Networking] otester:
Might be an issue with your mast, I'd contact Three via twitter or their blog.
[Networking] sriramsp.sp2:
micromax ninja a54

i am having micromax ninja a54

i want to update my os from android 2.3.2 gendric gendric

i have been searching fron 10 days but i havig only negative answer about update

but it's also a coding

i need positive answer

plea:confused:se help me

kind of you
[Networking] mark manning:
You would be better off getting an answer to that question in the android Question and Answers sub forum :)
[Networking] topcat07:
Congestion on mast going to take 3 months to sort out now happy emailed ceo
[Networking] cirian75:
I'll bet its one they share with EE.

EE customers will be sucking up the bandwidth with their LTE phones
[Networking] blair287:
logged a complaint with ofcom got two numbers

one to take it further with a complaint: 03304401614

and advertisement standards agency: 02074922222
[Networking] HarrowingLife:
In my area, we have no real Fixed-Line Broadband. BT at best can deliver 1Mbps with over 200ms Latency (Something to do with Interleaving being high?)

Three have a micro-Mast here, which covers this small rural area and a motorway only. I've always kept my downloading over night, this included Diablo 3 (Torrent Disabled!)

I was truely shocked on Friday at 3PM when suddenly my internet became totally unusable. I'm averaging 20-30GB a month (Netflix/YouTube/iPlayer. Rest is World of Warcraft) but in the past I have tried pushing it and done 200GB (@ThreeUK team were aware of me testing them here BTW)

When it hits me, not only does data literally dribble, it also seems to come in bursts. Latency sky rockets making WoW impossible to play (~5000ms) during the main hours I would play WoW and not be downloading.

So to summerise, less than 500 users of Three on the Mast at any given time (This has been confirmed by Three in the past, I was lucky we got HSPA+!) and at 11:59PM I can not even get 10KiloByte/s and then 60 seconds later I can get over 1.3MegaByte's/second

My other SIM's got hit to one of which hasn't used 200MB! I think the 5% highest users on each mast is being calculated as all of us in the area that live here, while the passing-by traffic on motorway is the 95%

Low Usage Mast, Plenty of Capacity, Now Unusable and no alternatives available unless I move!
[Networking] blair287:
Can someone copy and paste what was said on twitter i cant access it. Cheers.

if you are being throttled report it to BBC watch dog and log a complaint with Ofcom.

three have deleted all my posts on their blog seem they dont want this information across the internet.
[Networking] casdavies:
I'm in exactly the same position as you, miles from an exchange with unstable and slow BT the only other option, so I tether fairly heavily to my iPhone. I figured it wasn't an unreasonable thing to do given that I live in the middle of nowhere and there's unlikely to be many other people using the mast. How did you get the user statistics for the mast?
[Networking] HarrowingLife:
I've been talking to the Social Media Team (Kaz, Johanna) for years, so over time I've got some information from them in this regard.

On Friday when this issue hit, the new Twitter Support Team even confirmed no issues on the mast! :confused:

I have no idea what to do now. They've asked for my e-mail address to talk. I'm more than happy to restrain my usage but I need to know where the line is to do so. I already keep iTunes TV Episode downloads to after 12AM, along with other stuff. I'm 1 person, not sharing the connection with anyone. No P2P or File Sharing stuff. (Unless they want to class e-mail's as File Sharing lol)
[Networking] drachers:
Twenty minutes to go! Will switch to my 256kbps ADSL, as it at least functions at that speed unlike the throttled service which simply times out on each attempt to connect to a page.

I really don't think this thing will last long, it's too self-contradictory to stand.

Also!: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1976070656.png

I'll try again in 15 minutes.
[Networking] HarrowingLife:
Bye Bye Internet until 12AM, Vodaphone is too expensive and I don't have a BT Line :(
[Networking] cirian75:
Throttled 40kbps
[Networking] drachers:
Everyone loves a before/after.

BEFORE

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1976094864.png

AFTER

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1976101344.png

Timestamps are an hour out of sync.
[Networking] Lukehluke:
We are trying to get Three UK to comment on this and we have made a small article about it Three UK Throttling UK users. Hopefully we can get Three to tell us all what's going on with their network and we can get them to stop throttling users.
[Networking] Chilledbud:
Add me to the list. I'm in the middle of quietville Wales and can't think of there being many users around here. About 10 days ago I though they must have had some mast or network issues, it's happened in the past and lasts a day or two. I did wonder what had happened since the issue hadn't been resolved.

It's now clear that as said by others at 3pm my speed dies and tabbed browsing has be come obsolete thanks to the restrictions.

Since I'm on PAYG, I'm wondering how a new SIM and port my number over would last.
[Networking] wml:
Yep i too am being affected by this i have complained on there blog here hxxp://blog.three.co.uk/2011/09/27/all-you-can-eat-data-now-for-all-customers/ with many others and they claim there throttling the top 5% of heavy user in each area which if you are in an area of low use could make it anyone
[Networking] HarrowingLife:
I've completly lost the ability to do anything on the connection now. Switched to another connection for the evening just so I can post this. I think it speaks for its self. This image was over 10 minutes after I tried to start a reply to this topic. The connection timed out would be my guess. This is devastating and if Three them selfs were forced to have this as their main internet connection at home they'd quickly fix it!

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[Networking] cirian75:
Three have till 15.00 Thursday, if I get throttled then my section 9.6 OfCom release from contract without penalty gets sent record post.

And I'll unfortunately have to get their Broadband 10GB £15 1 month rolling data till I move house though
[Networking] casdavies:
This is commercial suicide. If they're going to constantly punish 1 in 20 of their customers (on this tariff) then their customer base will inevitably become eroded. Besides for £25 a month, they should be able to reinvest in network capacity
[Networking] cirian75:
Thought

This capping the top 5% will create a new top 5%, who will get capped, will create a new top 5%, who will get capped, will create a new top 5%, who will get capped, will create a new top 5%, who will get capped, will create a new top 5% who will get capped, will create a new top 5%, who will get capped.

I am being stupid here, or did that make sense ?
[Networking] HarrowingLife:
Makes sense apart from them disabling the caps eventually and increasing the amount of bandwidth you get when capped.

The 5% should be QoS'ed to low priority, this solves all the issues in busy area's. And leaves those of us in Rural area's on Masts that are frankly underused fine.
[Networking] cirian75:
1.5mbps would be a fair capped speed, Three are lying saying capped get 250kbps, we are getting 20 to 40kbps.