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[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
Hey guys,

So I jumped on the Virtuous Saga bandwagon last night and flashed the new radio and ROM. Worked great but I had no data reception (wifi was fine).

So I went back to the Radio I was originally using, 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M but I still have no reception at all, anywhere.

I've tried it with Virtuous and my nandroid of Blindice and get nothing, is there anything that could have gone wrong that I can fix? I don't understand it, it was fine before flashing the new radio.

Thanks!
[HTC Desire S] Jack_R1:
You probably forgot to define the correct APNs for your network.
[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
Well, phoned O2 and it seems a mast near here isn't working, so it might just be a coincidence! Have to wait and see, sorry for the topic!
[HTC Desire S] pejadu:
I had the same problem on the MIUI V4 ROM and a battery pull solved it
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Problem solved by now?

Sent by my fingers to your head.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tabsterleir:
Hi guys,

I have a silly question regarding the superbrick issue affecting users. I've been on multiple stock ICS ROMs now for a while and haven't faced the issue as such. However, whenever I flash, I do it a little differently to what is recommended

1) If its a wipe firmware, flash with "repartition" checked and the PIT file

2) If its a non wipe firmware, I reflash a gingerbread ROM with "repartition" enabled, then use the *2727*3855# command, then flash ICS over the top

So far, i've executed the *2767*3855# command on ICS multiple times (which i'm told is a wipe via the kernel) and I haven't had an issue.

Now here's my question. The superbrick issue is caused by the 0x19 firmware going ballistic when it receives the MMC_CAP_ERASE command. Could it be because I check "repartition" and completely redo the layout in the initial flash that future wipes don't call upon MMC_CAP_ERASE? Maybe a switch or something is set? Maybe if you don't repartition any kernel/recovery wipes detects the file system as "dirty" and execute MMC_CAP_ERASE?

This is pulling on virtually no android expertise by the way, just something that popped into my head. FYI I do realise the repartitioning with a PIT file is considered dangerous, but i've owned the 1G Galaxy Tab 7", Galaxy S2, Galaxy 5 and now the Note. On every device i've always used the PIT file and never had a problem but I do understand and accept the risks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] beatseek@live.com:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.

Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
[Windows Phone 7 General] jarnmo:
Well your arguments don't sound like the most rational ones out there, but I too think it's a good investment if you can wait atleast for a year or two before selling :).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Gampanat:
I'm also thinking of buying some :) And hopefully it will go quite well :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] awrnsmn:
I too bought 400 shares as I think in a year or two I'll make a decent return on my investment. I don't see Nokia going away as Microsoft has put a lot of cash in them in hopes of bringing WP7 up to #3. I bought as a long term investment for sure, so time will tell. Good luck to you also, we'll see if we made a good move!

By the way, best advise I can give you is, don't watch the stock daily, let it ride as someone said above, it will take quite some time before it starts to move in a positive direction. Just let it be and wait until WP8 comes out and gets established.you'll drive yourself nuts watching it right now!
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Based purely on your post I would have to say "yes."

This is facebook 2.0. I LOVE my Lumia 900. But I also realize Betamax was better than VHS. VHS won. It is not just a matter of having a superior product that I like. You also have to market it.

I can't believe sheeple are still paying $200 for an outdated iphone with no LTE and a 3.5 inch screen. If you want a free contract iphone you will have to make due with the iphone 3gs. That's insane. The iphone 4s is already dated. And people are picking up a phone 3 generations older for the same price as I got a Lumia 900. That is the market place Nokia is playing in. So no I do not believe their success no matter how much I LOVE their product is assured.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Buying with your heart is always a bad investment. Buy for the gain, not the good. Doesn't matter if its rail cars or crystal.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
^This
[Windows Phone 7 General] jarnmo:
Well, obviously historical decline is not a reason not to buy, more like the other way around.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
The stock hasn't bottomed out yet. Nokia also mentioned they're likely to face more quarters of operating at a lost, and the smartphone business is only part of their business.

Nokia has also been downgraded to junk status, as no one believes that they will be able to repay their loans.

I've been thinking about buying, but I'm betting it'll go lower. I'm holding out until right before the major launches.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Deleted member 2842059:
You already have your answer before you posted this. See these key words in you post: "believer", "I really think", "they will be". These types of words should never be associated with any financial transactions.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
This is what people were saying last year when Nokia was trading over $7 a share...

That advice led to a >50% loss. "Cheap shares" can get cheaper. I need more information than that before a stock becomes a buy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
With Nokia value approaching net value of its patent portfolio and cash on hand, this seems like the time to buy if you believe in NOK's upside.

The downside risks are:

They burn all cash while in recovery mode and go bankrupt

WP7 doesn't increase sales to return them to future relevance

My take is that the cash issue is a non-issue. Even with their credit rating as junk, intuition says that NOK will have free access to cheap cash loans from someone with lots of cash and a vested interest in their success: Microsoft

The WP7 upshot is the big question mark, but the grass roots indicators are telling me that WP7 will be that catalyst, given time. Since time = money for NOK and MSFT has the money, this seems non-issue, as well.

The "doomsday" scenario is if NOK's market cap goes so cheap as to make a hostile acquisition enticing. Then you could see IP desperate Google or another maker stepping in to try to eat them up. In that case, I don't think MSFT would let that happen, either. Net-net of this scenario is that NOK's value gets run up in a bidding war, which I don't think MSFT would let be lost.

Either way, as a long term hold, NOK seems cheap.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
+1

there are safer things to put money in than CREEKS THAT MIGHT FLOW BACKWARDS TOMORROW, if xyz happens.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
No one is saying NOK is safe - far from it. But if you are looking at a long term bet with big upside due to ambiguity, there are worse bets.

I bought $2K of NOK a few weeks ago knowing full well it could be zero. I considered it like buying a lotto ticket, fully understand it could be worth nothing or that NOK could be at $10+ in a year.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pLUSpISTOL:
What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
I don't think that contradicts anything we just said.

You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
Fidelity and Merrill Lynch.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pLUSpISTOL:
:D Now don't I just look stupid haha :p

It's a financial centre and I have never worked up the courage to figure this out! :o

Thank you. Any tips you guys have as I get started would be great.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
I couldn't resist.

Over here in the US if all you want to do is trade stocks E*trade or Ameritrade are okay. I heard Fidelity is good as well. Choose a reputable firm and then see what pricing is like for your trading strategy. Your choice of broker will definitely vary depending on how often you trade.
[Windows Phone 7 General] d.v:
If you believe that why don't you sell short?

D
[Windows Phone 7 General] jarnmo:
Sure, I didn't say you should buy just by looking at the historical decline. Those shares are usually the ones with the most upside, but also the biggest risks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Never done it before. I focus on up swings.

Still learning.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
He-he, you are dam right :D But... Have u believe in FB future? :D:D:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Fb , as in, facebook ?

Lmfao, sure, there is a future, but its already done. The moneys are goooooooone for the winners. Plenty of losing to do though !
[Windows Phone 7 General] Professor Simon Peach:
I too have considered Nokia shares, however I consider it will be several years before you see a significant return on an investment & certainly would not consider putting my shirt on Nokia stock as they may go further down the toilet...

If

I replace my omnia 7 with a windows phone it will most likely be a Nokia product. However I may defect to a Samsung S3
[Windows Phone 7 General] Alcoholic:
I plan on buying before their next earning report. I think Microsoft will eventually have to bail them out but that's not a bad thing for the stock. I think Nokia either needs to start doing really well or start failing enough to need Microsoft's backing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Well I bought them half a month earlier so I am at a loss now, but I still feel they will recover and I as well bought them to take a gamble :) since I believe WP will become the third eco system and Nokia is the premier partner benefitting from it. Also Nokia is fighting HTC and RIM over some pattents which is always a good thing if they win they will likely profit from other companies sales :)

The fact that they were dropping a lot after I bought them was worrying of course but yeah I got a Lumia for free so it was reasonable I could take a loss. But lets wait and see if they will skyrocket in oktober. But a this price point I think its a really good buy, for sure its a gamle but I can really see them recover since they are backed up by Microsoft and very valuable to them. It is he first company that brought WP7 truely in the picture of the general consumers and all it takes is some time to get comfortable for the general consumer to make the switch, this will occur if devices are seen frequently in public (or friends wo bought the devices talking about how well they work for them).

Transitions take time, certainly in a mobile phone market where people buy a product which the will be using intensively for about 2 years on average. Hardly anyone will buy something new and unproven/uncommon besides us, the fans :) slowly but surely WP7 marketshare will rise and it will be accepted as a viable alternative to the consumer. The ball has started roling thanks to Nokia.
[Windows Phone 7 General] retainedstatue:
They`re unlikely to "skyrocket in October" but I`ll be buying some in the next month or two - will see if they fall further first (no interest in selling short - just going to stick a few hundred £ in as a higher risk investment over a 2-3 year period).

They have a couple of things going for them:-

1) Despite a few years in the wilderness, they still sell well in the EU and Asia, the US market has never been great for them, although I`ve read a couple of positive things now they are launching the Lumias over there and there`s lots of room for improvement when you start from such a low baseline.

2) The WP7 ecosystem is solid, and the Apple love-in can`t last forever, the iPhone will continue to be phenominally successful for this gen, possibly next, but the time will come where it falls out of fashion, and with essentially 1 handset there will be nowhere for them to go. Android will continue to do well but will still be complex and "techy", leaving WP7 in the middle, lots of manufacturers and models but good consistency and intuitive OS

3) Microsoft will probably support Nokia financially if things go South, they are a flagship brand (esp in the EU) and they invest as much as is necessary to make WP7 succeed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Thought I was going to have to eat crow there for a minute. Nice little pop on the stock... too bad about the pull back.

Some people are still being evangelical though...

They LOVE mentioning that dividend. What they don't mention is how Nokia has slashed it in the past few months and how they will probably slash it again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
RIM is a better buy, no debt, and the price will surge soon as a change is coming.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Last Byte:
I think you made a decent choice, Nokia looks like it's on the path of renewal.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ how, when no one believes they will be able to repay their loans?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Great. Get all the disasters under one roof.

Link.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
The only reason MSFT would buy RIM is to keep their negligible patent portfolio out of Google's hands. Why not throw Facebook in the mix? They're rumored to be buying everyone and everything, after all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
If Microsoft were to buy Nokia and RIM, that would be EPIC!!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
Sure as hell would be.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Renewal?

I don't think they've done the "restructuring" thing heavily enough yet. That, and they aren't sure what os to run next...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Alcoholic:
Facebook is overvalued at around $60b. Not even MSFT could afford that.

And I don't see them buying rim. They don't need them and google won't buy rim and piss off the oem more.

Maybe Samsung will buy them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
I was being tongue in cheek. You'll recall that MSFT tried to buy Facebook at $17B back in 2008 and got rebuffed. Of course they can't buy them now. :)

I was half joking that about Facebook buying RIM, etc. That said, between the rumors they are building a phone, were considering buying WebOS, are considering buying Mozilla, etc, etc, who knows? :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Looks like it's taking a shortcut through a rough neighborhood. 14+% haircut today when the market is UP triple digits.
[Windows Phone 7 General] juzz86:
That would be the sale of Virtu, plus the axeing of 10,000 jobs, including 3 senior executives.

Tight times at Nokia, it seems.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Some companies actually restructure and strive to win again. Others fade away. I think we're watching the latter.
[Windows Phone 7 General] frothe3:
I totally agree. Nokia will be bankrupt by the end of the year, except for Elop, of course.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Expect a jump in share prices if a sell off of any kind is announced. This puppy isn't finished falling just yet though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] juzz86:
I've seen mention of Samsung where these 'Nokia for sale' rumours are concerned.

Thoughts?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
buyout math

Every reasonable and unreasonable suitor has been mentioned. The first question is why would anyone buy the whole thing now? It's losing money. And based on the recent announcements that isn't going to change for quarters. Why not let it do it's firings and restructurings and wait until the stock gets cheaper and there is better visibility. Frankly someone could buy the thing in bankruptcy or buy just the pieces they want.

Samsung is doing fine in mobile. Actually it's doing great. Why would it need Nokia and it's problems? What does Nokia add?

Link.

What a lot of people that are engaging in take over speculation don't realize is someone can just wait for the stock to get cheaper and then pick the thing up in a fire sale. I've seen it happen several times before. You buy it because you think it is cheap. It tanks. Then a "white knight" comes in and "rescues" it by buying out the company for half the price you bought your shares for. Just because a buyout happens doesn't mean it will happen in a profitable way for you. When this thing is trading at $0.50 and a buyout happens at $0.80 a lot of people are going to be pissed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] juzz86:
Good points.

As for Samsung, it mightn't need the problems of Nokia, but I'm sure Ovi and other IP (Maps and Symbian spring to mind) would be a worthwhile/profitable addition to any company.

It would be sad to see what was once a behemoth sold and gutted for IP in a similar fashion to Motorola Mobility.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andyl66:
A poor investment I think. Windows phone 8 has yet to materialise and given the appalling support from ms for wp7 I think most people will dump their wp devices in favor of iPhone or android. Nokia are insane for sticking solely with wp7/8. They should at the very least build a killer android device, with pureview for that just in case scenario.

Face it, windows 8 is heading for disaster, nobody likes it. The consumer preview has been available for ages and everyone just uses the desktop mode. It has fail written all over it. Nokia are relying on the miracle that this os will be a success, in a downward world economy, just who is going to buy touch screen monitors for their home pc? Or buy an expensive tablet that has zero software support?

Wp7 is the best mobile os. However, apple and Samsung seem to have the sheep in the pen, and is sheep that drive an os.

I waited 2 full years for Thai language support on wp7. In October 2010 ms promised Thai support within six months. Even the latest tango version doesn't support Thai language. It is reasons like this that even the non sheep will and have dumped windows phone. I just hope Nokia can escape in time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] _Variable:
Nahh. Maybe Microsoft will buy them first.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
How is that good for ms ?

How is that good for nokia ?

I can't see either benefitting, if they still can't sell phones.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Nah, turns out even Microsoft don't want them.

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/...nokia-last-year-but-walked-away-the-register/
[Windows Phone 7 General] DarkSeL:
I have to ask.

Where do you buy shares from?
[Windows Phone 7 General] beatseek@live.com:
Since I live in Israel, I use and Israeli investment bank to buy the shares.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Open an account at a brokerage...

---------- Post added at 01:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:02 PM ----------

That's not what your article said. Actually it said exactly what I said.

Why buy Nokia now? Wait for it to go bankrupt and pick it up cheap.

Anyway that rumor has been swirling around for months. It's not an official statement from MSFT or Nokia. MSFT may buy it... just not at favorable terms for anyone getting in at this level.
[Windows Phone 7 General] CR1M1N4L:
Personally, I'm 110% sure, that if someone will buy Nokia - it will be Microsoft. Even Samsung, Facebook or anyone else goes for buying Nokia, Microsoft will pay more to do buy it themselves. Microsoft is betting big on Nokia and letting someone else buying Nokia and stopping manufacturing of WP7 Nokia devices would mean end of WP7.

Just my thoughts.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Other manufacturers are signed up to make Windows Phone 8 devices. This is actually the lull before the storm. A Windows Phone 8 Samsung Note is rumored to be in the works.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
How does m$ benefit from buying nokia ?

How does nokia ?

I'm curious how a marketshare losing software platform and a marketshare losing hardware platform are going to gain anything from owning one another ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] guilhermedsx:
Let's not forget that anyone buying Nokia now would also be buying a free pass to Microsoft's graces. And a whole load of patents.
[Windows Phone 7 General] CR1M1N4L:
Microsoft would lose if Samsung or someone else would by buy Nokia.

If they will be sold, and Samsung or someone else says they are giving ~$ while MS is giving 1.5x$, the benefit would be selling Nokia for more.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drpratik:
why would microsoft purchase nokia

simple reasons as far as I can see.

1) huge huge portfolio of patents.

with those patents, MS can make other guys cross license those patents and earn per device they make.

2) to have its own in house manufacturing arm

just like apple for making all stuff in house.

3) just to let wp7-8 survive till it can start floating on its own.

as in to run one man show.

LG has abandoned windows phone.

now only samsung HTC and nokia are big names making wp7 handsets.

---------- Post added at 04:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:47 PM ----------

and most importantly,

if you follow microsoft cross licensing its patents for android.,you will realise MS makes far more money from android than WP7.

so with added bonus of nokia patents,they will be even more happy to make other companies like samsung htc and all to sign few more cross licensing agreements and more revenue from android.

I wont be surprised if MS recovers nokia's purchase price in couple of yrs through patents.

PATENTS HOLD LOTS OF $$$$$
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Did ypu not just read the links? Microsoft bailed on purchasing Nokia.

Samsung couldn't buy Nokia, they can afford to, but governing bodies wouldn't allow it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
If you read the thread the matter of the patents has been discussed...

Why pay $10 billion for $2.5 billion worth of patents?

As far as I know those links are internet rumors. There has been no official statement from Microsoft or Nokia. Also as I mentioned just because someone doesn't like something at a particular price point doesn't mean they won't bite if the price gets slashed. MSFT may buy NOK... just not for $7 a share or whatever price NOK was trading at when those rumors started.

I'll take Samsung over LG any day of the week.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drpratik:
What I mean to say is.

It's slowly happening.

No acquisition deal is closed overnight.

So let's have look out of over one yr or so.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Nokia took another hit today. The entire market was down though. I wonder if the rumors that MSFT might be making a phone help or hurt the stock.
[Windows Phone 7 General] albertleao:
I feel like a lot of people on this thread that know very little about the stock market are about to make some stupid ass mistakes...

Never go into the stock market betting on companies you 'like'. Won't work. Bet on companies that are statistically doing well, or aren't in danger of going completely bankrupt... in other words, try not to bet and try to make a very well informed business decision.

I'm not a fan of Apple in general, but I'm very glad I've got my hands on Apple shares a couple of years ago.

Also, putting a lot of money into 1 stock can be risky if you're just starting off and have no idea what you are doing. Look into tech mutual funds if that's what you want, and you'll be able to dabble your money in a much stronger portfolio than just a single stock.
[Windows Phone 7 General] guilhermedsx:
Now that the Lumias are pretty much "to be dead", I guess it wasn't really smart to buy the stock, was it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
Not really dead, Nokia is just going to hibernate between now and WP8 launch - it is not the first time they've done it in the last 2 years. If I were Elop I would buy an island and go on vacation.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
Totally agree.

Reading some of these saving soles stories is like reading about a six-year old kid who sent $3.36 to Brandon Jacobs to stay with the Giants - it is so bitter sweet, but Jacobs is still leaving to the 49ers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] _Variable:
You guys should just buy MS stock, Worth more. The value last I heard was $300.
[Windows Phone 7 General] magicsquid:
Why would Microsoft purchase Nokia? To stop a competitor from buying Nokia. Not sure it would happen otherwise.