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[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Did you remember to supercid before flashing the tmobile rom? And check the apn settings thread for the apn settings just in case they were incorrect, though in my experience the carrier pushes the settings no matter what device you're using.
[HTC Amaze 4G] steamdnt:
I did Super-Cid the device. At least, I wrote 11111111 to CID.

APN is also correct, I set it up manually and my data connection and texting work just fine.

Could this be at all related to Telus using HSPA, while the TMOUS rom only has options to select WCDMA or GSM?
[HTC Amaze 4G] gnarkilljboy:
Thanks for the info on installing ICS. I think I will do it once we find out how to get mms working.
[HTC Amaze 4G] steamdnt:
Don't hold your breath on the T-mobile version. I'm waiting for the Telus OTA so I can rip it apart and figure out what is going on.

In addition, anyone know of any risks for the few of us Telus users that are running the TMOUS rom? It shouldn't detect Telus' OTA, right?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Tmo using HSPA+ as well, the network set ups are practically the same, Try checking your mms settings in the app itself.
[Blade General] Gone with wind:
I got update tool for San Francisco II under technical support on wwwen.zte.com.cn, can I use it for my San Francisco II? it is also from Orange.
[Blade General] anish76:
ZTE official website

You can use ZTE official website for downloading software i.e..ww.zteuk.co.uk, click Devices-->Product List(choose models here)-->Product support
[HTC One X] Sh0X31:
Hi,

How i remove that the HOX switch the display if it on the head (like in the picture).

I'm on InsertCoin 6.3.1. i asked baadnwz, he told me:

but i dont finde bools.xml and the values folder i cant find too.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ChodTheWacko:
Just wondering if this bugs anyone else -

My note seems to have an overly sensitive screen.

If It's in my pockets, screen facing in, then sometimes my pocket will trigger the screen. I have haptic feedback on, and when I feel the vibration I think I got a notification on something.

I basically always keep the screen facing out now.

Using glas.t screen protector.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] beestee:
Nice review and photos, but the comparison seems a bit bogus.

Why is the "In-Use" capacity of the 3250 battery set to 2500?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
ask the app creator, i put in all the data that it asked for as appropriate for the battery
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] AdzUK:
With the Mugen battery fitted, does the Note still fit comfortably in your pocket? That's the important thing for me. How much thicker does it make the device?

I've also wondered why these companies who make extended batteries don't accommodate more of the available space, it's all wasted and you are left with a hefty brick. I would happily go 2-3mm possibly 4-5mm thicker but every extended battery I've seen so far makes the Note look horrendous. It is on the absolute border as it is for me in terms of phone size.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
tnh i never put the not in a trouser pocket, i always have it on inside jacket pocket so the increase in thickness is not an issue

but yes, with the extended battery pack it does fit into my jeans pocket - not as sleek as the stock device - but still doable
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] CrazyOGuy:
Great review! I have a quick question and observation.

In the review there is the picture of the instructions and one thing caught my eye. "NEVER drain the battery Completely to 0%". So now here I am asking...

What happens if the battery Is drained to 0%? O_O

I've learned quickly through the ages that magnets and electronics (particularly the computer and screen based ones) often don't mix.

I suggest Perhaps a small snap or Velcro would be better recommendation for a at-home fix of the kickstand.

Nice idea by the way...now THAT is an extended battery! :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
from reading a few threads online about modern battery technology, the battery can be damaged by either:

- "overcharging", keeping the battery on the charger all the time

- fully draining as there needs to be SOME capacitance remaining for it to start charging up again

no modern battery is meant to be drained 100% apparently, which is why in all my tests i tried to go 1%->100%
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] paris.gr:
As the friend suggested you should have put 3250 for the Gold battery as you have put 5400 for the Mugen one. Also the total screen time would have been useful as well.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] Johev:
Dear panyan,

I truly enjoyed your post and out of the box thinking. Incredibly I thought of something similar, after checking many extended batteries, but I think that if they would follow your advice, they would probably need 2 production lines, which would increase the cost of producing them. Right now they just produce the same module and then they fit it together with another one, as you have suggested.

But I think that more can be done by Samsung to improve the future G.Note 2. If Motorola can fit a 3000mah battery into a Razr Maxx, which is not much bigger than original Razr, why do we G. Note users, that have a 5,3 inch device can't get a the manufacturer to develop a 3500mah-4000mah battery without adding much bulk to the device and just by USING (as you have stated) the entire back of the device (not sure what to call G.Note, it's not a tablet and in my opinion it's more than just a smartphone).

Just my 2 euro cents :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
it is true that manufacturing costs would be higher, but they are asking a hundred dollars which is quite alot imho for an extended battery :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] dch77:
Thanks for the review. Although, I am not that much confident on the battery widget measurements... It would be nice that have a stress test of the three batteries you tested, so we know how much time we have online with these.

If you have time, let a movie or a game running with full brightness, wifi, gps, sync and setCPU to "performance" 1.4Ghz, from 100% to 1% and take note of the timing. I think that would be a good test.

Anyway, thanks for the review of the Mugen, it seems the brand is not fooling their customers ^^ But, if they could be cheaper, they would make me/us? happy!

EDIT: I am not sure I understand why the adjustment calculations in your review. OK, you assume that the Samsung is really 2500mAh... But if you adjust the extimations for the other batteries, it means you also trust the Gold to be 3250mAh and the Mugen to be 5400mAh... For me, this really goes against the point of comparing with stock OEM battery. I mean, the app estimated Gold being of the same capacity of the OEM (hint?) and the Mugen to be of a little bit lower capacity. So, let it be. That is what is estimated after several cycles, why adjust the results afterwards?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
The reason i adjusted the values is because i am not that confident of the widgets readings either. So what i said was that the Samsung OEM battery is a true 2500mah battery which is the best assumption we can make. The widget overestimated the capacity, we say it is 2500mah, the widget says it is 28xxmah.

What i did was to say that the widget can under/over estimate by a certain percentage. The same widget was used to test all three batteries so i removed this under/over estimate so that i can get a more true reading. This is what i call my "adjusted" values.

It isnt that i trusted the 3250mah and 5400mah batteries; it was more that i DIDNT trust the widget :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] dch77:
Ah, sorry man, I still don't see the point. I looked again at the table and I still think the adjustment done is linked to the provided capacity and not the "estimated". So, I sill feel that this means, the assumption is that Gold is really 3250mAh and Mugen is really 5400mAh...

I'm sorry mate. I can't understand. Humm, let me maybe illustrate at bit my viewpoint.

What if in your table, you put provided capacity of the Gold battery to 2500mAh. Then, recalulate your re-adjustment for that Gold table line. Then, you'll find a re-adjusted estimation similar to the OEM one... So, to me, it means you are linking your calculation to the declared 3250mAh capacity of the Gold one...

Sorry, I may not be clear. I tried my best to explain. Maybe, I'll come with a better example later ^^
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
unfortunately i dont have time right now to rejiggle the numbers, but all the data is there if youd like to do your own analysis :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] dch77:
ah well, ok. Quick enough. See.

Original table:

| Battery | Rating | MaxV | MinV | AppEsti | Diff% | Adjust diff% | AdjustEsti |
| OEM | 2500 | 4203 | 3463 | 2828 | +13 | 0 | 2500 |
| Gold | 3250 | 4201 | 3555 | 2822 | -15 | -2 | 3185 |

Here your adjustment for the Gold is: 3250*0.98=3185 (so assumtption is Gold is really 3250mAh)

What if using 2500mAh instead of 3250mAh for the Gold battery:

| Battery | Rating | MaxV | MinV | AppEsti | Diff% | Adjust diff% | AdjustEsti |
| OEM | 2500 | 4203 | 3463 | 2828 | +13 | 0 | 2500 |
| Gold | 2500 | 4201 | 3555 | 2822 | +12.8 | -0.2 | 2450 |

So to me, the readjustment is linking back the result to assumed capacity, which makes no sense if trying to estimate.

Hope this make my point clearer. Well, hopefully. But, I'm more interested with stress testing and timing, if you have time one day.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
im interested to know why you think:

- that its wrong to assume a battery rated at 3250mah shouldnt be calculated at 3250mah

- and that a battery rated at 3250mah should be assumed to be 2500mah :confused:

:)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] dch77:
Ah, just because it is not OEM and not "trusted" brand, so one can't assume the capacity written on the battery is correct. To me, one can only trust timing of steady and reproducible battery drain testing.

Here, as you agreed also, one has to trust how the widget estimates and if you add trust on the capacity written on the battery, then I'm not sure these are results we can trust. See. So 2500mAh is just an example, I coudl have put 1000mAh for the Gold battery and perform the adjustment, see.

For example, I have an Ebay 5000mAh that is thick and weights double of OEM, but perform same as OEM... In the battery widget, if you enter capacity of 5000mAh for that battery, the widget willl estimate "wrongly" around that amount because it assumes you do have a 5000mAh battery.

Just try it. Use you OEM and in the widget, enter 5000mAh and let it charge for 50% and more. You'll see the widget estimating around 5000mAh...

EDIT: and why calculate the Gold 3250mAh with 2500mAh? Just to show that the adjustment done is related to what is written on the battery, so it kind of make no sense.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] panyan:
i completely agree, but i have no way of testing this, the widget was the only thing that i could use

when you change the battery the widget asks for:

- battery rating

- charger rating

so i input both of those exactly what the battery is rated at: 2500, 3250 and 5400 and the charger at 1000ma

one can not categorically prove the exact capacitance of a battery without taking it apart and doing extensive testing - which i do not have the facility for unfortunately
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] aami.aami:
Greatest and the most knowledgeable reviews i have ever seen for a battery! thanks man! really u have a lot of knowledge! i would definitively get this battery!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] dch77:
Yeah, no problem. I would be curious if you have time one day to do a stress test of the Mugen. And maybe Gold and Samsung as comparison.

I did some very easily and I had these results (roughly):

- OEM Samsung (rated 2500mAh) ~3H10

- Anker (rated 2600mAh) ~3H10 also

- Gold (rated 3250mAh) ~3H10 too

- CS (a thick battery rated 5000mAh) ~6h30

So, it'd be nice to see if the 5400mAh Mugen and your Gold batteries compares to above.

Procedure is easy:

- Charge to 100%, reset widget

- unplug charging, take note of time, run a game in loop with full brightness, no screen sleep, wifi, gps, sync on and setCPU to "performance" 1.4Ghz

- when hit 1%, take note of time and measure how long the battery stood

- for info, I used the game Riptide GP as it is easy to start a game and let the jetski go round in infinite loop so that you run until 1% of battery without having to interact with the GNote

But, anyway, if no time, no problem. Thanks for your review anyway. Interesting read. For the design part, I'd comment that having a newly-engineered battery shape must be too expensive. Using two thin batteries design is to cut cost. What I do not understand is why Samsung, with the sheer size of the note, hadn't put a bigger shaped battery right in the beginning. The battery could have been as thin but cover more surface and still stay within the body of the Note. This way, I'm sure we could have bigger battery than the 3000mAh from Moto. What a shame. Plus, they knew that the screen would be eating that much power.

(what I mean is that the standard OEM battery is sized nowhere near up to the edges of the GNote body boundaries...)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] skrillex13:
Hello guys, what do you think, which is the best rom for gaming? Now Im using Black Note 2nd gen but Im laggy when I play.....sry for my bad english....if this post will unuseful for other gamers I will delete it :).
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] andynroid:
CM9 ICS Alpha2 or CWG BionicV2
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] skrillex13:
Thx Andy:) I'll flash Bionic 2, but my baseband is I8150XXKK1, is it problem? (sry I alawys ask everybody before I flash a new rom). And if I good know its based on malaysian firmware so can I you my mobile 3g?(Im live in hungary.) And my last question is that for gaming I set in cowpanel: smooth and off zram? Sry for my bad english.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erick161:
Very detailed review and well put together review! Do you have screen shots of time use for the batteries? I'm interested in the gold, since it doesn't require a extended back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] s1mpd1ddy:
Now I want one
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SKyRocKeting727:
Great write up! Will take your word for it if I ever decide to get an extended battery. One of the best battery reviews Ive read yet.

-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
i dont but if i ever rerun the tests, bull be sure to get these too :)

;)

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...g-galaxy-note-sgh-i717-with-battery-door.html

thank you, much appreciated :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
if i remember rightly mugen have free worldwide shipping at the moment :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] OutCastedSheep:
excellent review. i enjoy it very much.

i learn something again in the android communities, unlike the "other side".

by the way, do you have and good way to calibrated the battery or any good apps to do it.?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
thank you - much appreciated

i dont know of any battery calibration apps - do you mean ones that will help you power cycle the device?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Jamesyboy:
Are battery covers 100% interchangeable with the International note? The pictures posted here are of the Int. Version. I understand the product is advertised for both versions, but i want to make sure it's not a "it's not perfect....but it works" fit (in general terms...not specific to this product.)

Amazing work, amazing write-up. The best battery review i've seen yet.

Edit: P.S. The only thing thats keeping me from jumping through your screen and dancing is the lack of runtime data. Maybe MaH ratings are good for engineers. But runtime data is much easier to interpret. Because from the chart above, it seems that the battery is rated at 200% the capacity of the OEM battery, yet is only provides a certain percentage of that expected capacity. Is this what your chart is explaining? Sorry. It's late.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vanemburghj:
My first 7 days with Mugen 5400 mAH

Have had my Mugen 5400 mAH extended battery for one full week. Here is what I think and know, I do not have that ugly hump back battery cover, have full form hard plastic cover with NFC antenna and kickstand. Which by the way the kickstand proved it’s worth in first 24 hours of ownership.

It took 26 hours from 100% charge to 10% remaining with screen at 100%, either on wifi or 4G, with pretty much all the back ground stuff enable. I surfed, gamed, watched two complete movies and 3 episodes of Battlestar Galactica (wife was doing her scrap booking "fun" with her girlfriends and I had access to free wireless), checking e-mail, fiddle farting around trying to get it down to 10% faster. Charges to 100% fairly quickly, I plug it into 110 v around 2230'ish and has full charge when I wake up at 0600.

Was it a bit on the high side of cost??? Yes, but don't regret it at all, has been great not looking for an outlet every where I go, not rushing to connect to my charger (actually have not use my charger since I installed extended battery) and having to carry a plug and USB cord with me every time I leave the house.

Highly recommend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
I agree, a very worthwhile product :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
feel free to ask any questions about the product guys :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] taob:
My 5400 mAh Mugen battery arrived this afternoon. The order was placed on the evening of June 4, so it took a week for it to arrive in Toronto. Pretty good for free shipping from Hong Kong! :)

I'm just charging it up now, so nothing to report on so far. I will be on the road tomorrow, so I'll try running 4G+GPS+BT with Google Navigation while in the car (about 70 minutes travel time total), and Ethernet while on-site with a client. Screen brightness will be at 100% the whole time. If I can get through an entire day without the battery dying, I'll be very impressed.

I really like the much grippier, textured back. No need for me to take photos of how it looks, since panyan did such a great job. :D Kudos to Mugen for using packaging that is EASY to open! No knives or scissors or personal injury involved here. Just snap the two halves apart, and out pops the battery and cover!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
^im glad your happy

ill be interested to see a screenshot of your battery usage after that epic trip :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Izzue:
Great review, but at $100 dollars, the price seems too steep for just a battery... $50 probably would have been more reasonable
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
at first this was my thought too, but when i thought more about it:

we have all paid a great deal of money for our devices and when theyre out of battery, they are as good as useless... this product keeps our device running much longer and therefore is worth more than "just a battery" - if you see what i mean :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] taob:
$100 is on the expensive end of the spectrum, but it is reasonable considering the capacity, the convenience, the special back cover, the cost of the 2650 mAh battery, and the likely lower sales volume of the 5400 mAh part. If Mugen had been contracted by Samsung to produce a million units per month, they might sell it for $75 each... but then Samsung would retail it for $100 anyway. :rolleyes: :D

You could buy two of the 2650 mAh batteries for $94. For an extra $5, you get just as much capacity, and a bonus kickstand cover with a better grip surface. Two batteries means I have to shut down the phone, pry off the cover, swap the battery, snap the cover back on, and reboot the phone. The convenience of simply having it all in one battery is worth it to me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] panyan:
^ agreed

just so you know guys - im on its 20th cycle and it is still giving me the same screen on time

really good quality battery :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] i3allistic:
Just ordered one, can't wait!!

MUGENRULEZ to get 7% off your order from Mugen Homepage :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rvnteck:
Thanks for the 7% discount code! Ordered one :-)

and thanks Panyan for the great review!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] toxiciti:
Wow. Thanks for this awesome hands on review. I was looking at buying a cheap alternative but this review has steered be into buying this one.

Now I need to find a car dock to hold it. That's my biggest issue with these extended batteries.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] santiagodraco:
In reality the battery should be able to sell for 30-40 bucks each easy. I decided against an in phone extended battery for a couple of reasons (inability to use a case, many mounts, docks, etc.) Instead I went with a New Trent external 12,000 mah charger/battery pack which only set me back 75 bucks and it can charge the phone at least 4 full times before it itself needs charging. I mention this to point out how much headroom they have in the price of the Mugen battery. I remember buying a similar pack for my Samsung Galaxy SII for 39 bucks. For interest the New Trent battery pack is here: http://amzn.to/MblJOg

I do think though that the Mugen battery is pretty cool though and if it wasn't for the price and if there were case selections available for the phone with it I'd likely have bought one. But for me the external pack was a better solution.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] giantenemybird:
I purchased the Mugen battery and can confirm that it is worth the money.

In an effort to give the illusion of a super detailed magical science review like the OP, I present to you:

398738273 4+9393939393939 -==-2-2-03393989893 MATH MATH MATH MATH

GRAPH

PIE CHART

TAXES

9993939393939840985055489754
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] taob:
Here you go... five bucks. :laugh:

http://www.all4cellular.com/product...nded-battery-and-battery-door-black-3118.html

I don't have that specific model, but I have had the same external battery pack like that for all my smartphones. I like having the option of off-grid charging, but to be honest, I don't use it much because of the inconvenience. It's not good for when you're on the go and need to use the phone, since you have this damn box dangling from your phone. ;-) Also, it takes me a couple of minutes to swap out a battery and reboot, and I'm instantly back to 100% charge. Recharging could take hours.

I do occasionally use the external pack while I'm camping, where we have no other electrical power. I want to keep the phone outside with me and not plugged into the car (which could be miles away). That's pretty much it, really. I guess I'm just never away from AC power for extended periods of time. :laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Elpidio:
My experience with extended non-oem battery is that there are so much space between the speaker and back cover that the sound becomes hollow. Anyone with this observation?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] taob:
I have not measured it, but the sound does not appear to be noticeably different to me. The Mugen case has extra baffling (not sure if that's the right term) around the speaker grille, which may help.

---------- Post added at 09:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:21 AM ----------

I use the Bracketron one. The side grips and bottom supports (when in vertical orientation) are deep enough to accommodate the thicker case.

http://www.bracketron.com/products/mobile-grip-it-universal-holder

Someone else in another thread recommended the Exogear suction mount, which also looks very interesting. Check out their demo video and pay attention around the 9-minute mark. They reverse the thing, so the suction cup is attached to the back of the device (they used a Kindle as an example), and the clamp grips on to the car's vents.

http://www.exogear.com/products-exomount-car-mount-holder.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] giantenemybird:
I use the exogrip with my mugen and it works perfect. Best car mount ever.