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[Desire HD General] xywojtek:
Nothing stops 3GS users from downgrading the software if they feel that new features are not worth trading for speed? They have this choice, HTC users don't. Simple. And look, Apple makes billions, HTC recently - not really...

ICS and Sense not running well on D HD? ICS and Sense worked reasonably on desire HD for me, the real problems were camera, Bluetooth, early releases full of bugs and all that could be solved quickly by HTC 'leaking' some software. Speed (or lack of it) is not an issue for some people, the others don't have to upgrade? Again comes to giving customer a choice...

Maybe 18 months is a long time, but guess what, I had a PC that was 7 years old, with newest ubuntu running on it. I used it for web browsing and YouTube + roots and jailbreaking lol. The only reason I changed it is because of the hardware failure. Linux is a beautiful thing mate, and these phones are using it. So I don't think 18 months is THAT long. Ok, maybe you won't be able to play latest games on the old phone, but it would be nice to have let's say Google Now which doesn't need too much of computing power?
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
I agree with all your points but phones aren't pc's, the dhd was top dog on release and 2 years on would be bargain basement material, it's the 1gb internal storage that's killing it. When newer phones come with 8gb minimum should Google really write android to stick with 1gb of resources.
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
I don't think the source will ever be released but I also don't think it's that relevant anymore. My phone is much faster with the unofficial CM10 Jelly Bean nightlies than it has ever been with gingerbread, be it sense or aosp. It's been said before. Our hardware is more than able to run ICS and even JB and our 2GB of storage are also sufficient. HTC are just not willing to spend money on an older device. I'll be waiting for the nexus 4 to be released in my country and I'm done with them. That hardware will be able to run latest android releases when newer HTC hardware won't be able to. From now on, I plan to buy every second nexus phone, starting with the 4. I will only buy HTC again if it's nexus branded.
[Desire HD General] graybop:
+1

I would agree that this late on it's pretty much a certainty the above is spot on. It seems a shame, I have flashed pretty extensively many a ROM but always the one that feels best, to me, on DHD is ARHD (just works very well!). My contract ends soon and all I want now is a better battery life hahaha.
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
Unfortunately a lot of DHD users eat a lot of cheese and easily forgot what HTC has done to us...
[Desire HD General] xywojtek:
You mean they've sold us their phone?
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Yes and this is a sad thing.
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
amazing, it seems that even HTC ThunderBolt gets an ICS update. well done HTC... NOT! :( and how does TB differ from HD in spec wise??
[Desire HD General] sergiu_07_07:
DHD and Thunderbolt are basically the same phone....except the processor.

DHD has a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 MSM8255 while Thunderbolt has Snapdragon S2 MSM8655.....but I don't think this is quite a huge difference that makes the Desire HD "unable to run" ICS.
[Desire HD General] Vict20:
Is it April the first already?.....

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc-comes-top-in-android-update-study-50010043/
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Dafuq????
[Desire HD General] hd2life:
HTC is not that bad, Motorola would of left our device on froyo.
[Desire HD General] humzaahmed155:
Well, the DHD has better specs than the One V, and identical specs to the Desire S, I think it was a partition problem that stopped the update, adjusting the partitions would result in complete data loss.
[Desire HD General] BerlinBlackout:
Blackout ICS 3.2 runs perfectly...
[Desire HD General] Triversity:
I understand that they stop the official update, but they still yould have given as an unofficial update so devs can work with that. well, my next phone will have stock android for sure. I am not going to make the same mistake twice ;)
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Go for Google Nexus 4 :)
[Desire HD General] Automorph:
flash one of the 4.2 roms it will make it much better
[Desire HD General] dbgurudk:
I will give it a try.
[Desire HD General] stuffinthesky:
I miss my ace.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Buy another one? You can pick one up for about £100 now :D

I'll definitely be keeping my Ace/DHD when I upgrade

If I helped, hit that thanks button!

HTC Desire HD (IceColdSandwich)

Samsung GNote 10.1 (Stock Awesomeness)
[Desire HD General] tonylee000:
You can get them cheaper than that!! I was disgusted to find my dhd was only worth £30 at the recycling places. Its mint condition too!. Its worth more than that to me so ill be keeping it :)
[Desire HD General] yumm91:
Well, for most of the people with no intention or just lazy to learn skills to root the phone, DHD is one of the "old phone" because it is not even supported by the ICS official.. Hell, even some of my friends sell their device for the sole reason that it is not upgradeable to ICS and it gives somehow "old looks" and make them feels outdated.(one reason maybe why the isucks is so popular).. Maybe this is the real intention of HTC, to force the customer to buy newer HTC phones.. :cyclops:
[Desire HD General] tonylee000:
Yes i see your point, im always trying new roms on my dhd, less now I have a n7100 but that always kept it fresh for me. Was in two minds about retiring it but im glad I did now I have this beast ;)
[Desire HD General] Vict20:
Running Jellytime 4.2.1 R6.1 as a daily driver. It's fast, stable and battery consumption is better than stock. Occasional lags but that's the same as my N7 was til the 4.2.2 upgrade this week.

Simply awesome.
[Desire HD General] stealth09:
More stable and faster than ICS roms?
[Desire HD General] heywheelie:
Is it safe to assume that the ICS roms are more stable then the JB roms seeing that ICS has been around longer (disregarding speed and battery life)?

Are any custom ICS roms totally bug free?

cheers
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
As a company selling hardware you can bet your life that's their intention, otherwise they go bust.

---------- Post added at 11:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:03 AM ----------

Fair assumption although bear in mind that no official source is available for either. There are no bug free roms for any device, although jellytime is a good daily driver
[Desire HD General] FerreiraM.:
I was disappointed with the cancellation of the ICS update from HTC. As already said, we all know that our HTC Desire HD can run ICS perfectly.

;)
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
We have ics and jb now :D
[Desire HD General] FerreiraM.:
I know that, i've already tested 3-4 ICS rom's. But I would like a ICS Official from HTC, but HTC wants to force costumers to buy new phones.

:)
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
Yes because that's their business model, also you are talking about a nearly three year old phone.
[Desire HD General] recolor-shrink-spool:
I don't see how screwing your current customers over by cancelling an update is a healthy longterm business model. Of course, HTC was struggling a lot back then (and still is) so they probably just stopped development on the DHD to save money.

Also, the Desire HD is just two years and about three months old, not almost three years. It was one year old when ICS launched.

Sent from my Desire HD+
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
Didn't say it was a healthy business model, and it alienated many loyal customers, but there's no money for HTC in updating phones and they appear to have taken the view, wrongly IMHO, that upsetting a few current customers was worth the gamble.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Fu*k HTC go nexus.
[Desire HD General] iggdawg:
Very insightful
[Desire HD General] walent:
It's been a year. Wow, thanks developers for the awesome work and shame on HTC :(
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Yes it was a shame =[

Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
or say to hell with the OEM and carrier BS and go nexus

Sent for a corner cell in Arkham
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
The only reason I'd choose a HTC again is because of the superior build quality, but actually my next one might be a google phone or a SGS III (or IV). Samsung is having a way more open source attitude than HTC, which causes "frustrations" like a lot of DHD owners are having now.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
They maybe more open to post current builds but I wouldnt say they are more open source. All the things that made the SGS3 so spacial are things that will be lost one AOSP based roms like CM9 or AOKP as they are closed sourced apps.

But who know how things will work with Apple getting the ban on the Galaxy Nexus. Figures I just decide to get one instead of the SGS3 and then they get banned in the US lmao
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
Yes.. the lawcase about the patents again... Mother of g0d, sometimes I get annoyed by a few things of android, but when I read up about that b*lls**t, screw iOs and android FTW tbh. Imho Apple will NOT be making themselves popular with this.

I could get a few months old Galaxy Nexus for 200 € a few days ago, it's sold now, kind of regretting already I didn't go for it lol.

edit: the few extra features (the android'ish Siri etc) on the newest TW on SGS 3 don't interest me all that much, I'd most likely go for an AOSP build as soon as I could.
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
Oh...yeah :)

We sti hve to wait...

sorry budy,

Oh really? i didnt know dat source will be released

on this Sep.

i guess not coz its been already scheduled.
[Desire HD General] FullStreak:
It'll be August 30th knowing HTC
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Dont get your hopes up.

The Desire s was told it would get the upgrade June-July. June is already over, no sign of an OTA yet! All we had was one lousy leak at the end of May.

So if HTC hasn't even prepared our update yet, yours might still take longer!
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
We need to wait July 9 and watch what "3" will do. Maybe we will get update faster then Desire S :) I just contacted HTC with 3 web page image where shows that Desire HD will get update July 9. Waiting for answer now :)
[Desire HD General] l33ch0r:
July 9 would be awesome. But I seriously doubt that.

Only want this update so that CM 9 will be released :)

Gesendet von meinem Desire HD mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Getting the update means absolutely nothing. CM9 still won't work. The kernel 3.0 won't work.

You need to wait till HTC releases the kernel source. They will possibly release it as the end of August, knowing them.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
HTC is known for waiting to the last min to release the source for the kernel and they have 90 days to do so. Knowing them they will wait till day 89 yo post it. So if we get the update in July then it will most likely be September before we see any source code to help with AOSP roms

Sent for a corner cell in Arkham
[Desire HD General] craig9100:
get ready for stock 4.0

I need advise..

I'm in Australia but my DHD was bought in Singapore with asia wwe ROM. It was rooted/s-off and now a Android Revolution HD. It is fine, but from what I've seen/heard of 4.0 look and feel, I would like to be in line for the upgrade to 4.0.

My logic... moving to an Australian stock ROM would be the quickest way to be in-line for 4.0 upgrade?

I went to a stock australian vodafone on the weekend, but my wifi become poor so I moved back to Revolution HD.

Interested on your comments

Craig
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
Thank you for ur info.

So, we hve to wait until Sep to get fully working all roms.

i guess HTC said that we will get sense 3.6 for Android 4.0.

So, u wont get sense 4.0.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
For AOSP or AOKP rooms yes. Unless they release the source sooner

Sent for a corner cell in Arkham
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
No because when you try to update it will read the phone ID and it is not the right one. So it will not complete the OTA. Your best bet will be wait for the ruu to be posted here or a custom rom. Also as stated above. It will not be Sense 4 it will be 3.5

Sent for a corner cell in Arkham
[Desire HD General] Nobodys_me:
You mean 3.6 right? Or did I miss something?
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
Yes 3.6 people seem to mistake that alot
[Desire HD General] jizang:
what's the difference between sense 3.5 and 3.6
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
Not much. 3.5 is for android 2.3.5 and sense 3.6 only came out on android 4.0
[Desire HD General] jizang:
OK thanks
[Desire HD General] shithead:
It's actually the same.

Sense 3.6 is just like Sense 3.5 but on Android 4.0 ICS.
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
There is much diference between sense 3.0 and 3.5?

Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191
[Desire HD General] FullStreak:
From what I've read there isn't much between 3.5 and 3.6.

Question though, I'm still new to the developing with Android, but when we do get the official ICS and htc releases the kernel and etc, would that help greatly with out custom roms that use ICS and Sense 4.x?
[Desire HD General] Raenzen:
It must be not that difficult from now on, that an official release also hits our device. The Incredible S (not that different model - same processor, ram-size...) gets it's rollout today. :D

http://www.androidcentral.com/android-404-rolling-out-htc-incredible-s
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
Basing on the earlier announced ETA's and comparing it with the ones they gave for the DHD that'd mean we'd get the kernel/source around early August then. Let's wait and see another month then.
[Desire HD General] cdordon:
Search the thread, I posted a comparison of 4.0 and 3.6 so you can see at least the 3.6
[Desire HD General] Rostock4ever:
ICS for Desire HD will be released on July 9.

Look at the Website ''tre.se''
[Desire HD General] chrisund123:
Old news.
[Desire HD General] monki79:
Yepp, but it also says preliminary.
[Desire HD General] japre:
According to this website ICS update will be after 25 July

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/06/17/telus-android-ics-4-0-schedule-list-updated/
[Desire HD General] nicoboum:
I think that those dates are Telus release dates. That would mean that ICS update will be BEFORE 25 July for non branded phone (and, by extension, for xda).
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
Do we have to have a stock Rom installed to get the official update OTA?

Cheers,

Matt
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Yes stock rom from the phones carrier is needed for the OTA or it will soft brick you.
[Desire HD General] andalism:
Most probably. As seen from the GB upgrade and sense 3.0 upgrade, as long as you are rooted ( even if stock ROM) you will not be able to install the ota successfully)
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Even with stock recovery?
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
I'm on a unlocked desire hd open to any network. Currently using a 'Three' pay as you go sim card in the UK.

What version of stock Rom would I need?

Thanks,

Matt
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
What ever came on the phone.

Yes even stock recovery

Sent for a corner cell in Arkham
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
I'm confused now?

I downloaded this a few days ago, apparently you just plug in your phone to usb and run as Administrator.

The Version is:

"RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1_Radio_12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed"

Would that one be ok to flash?

thanks again,

Matt
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
Thats my answer from HTC :)

Android 4.0 is being rolled out in Europe for the Desire HD in July and August.

The update is sent out in batches and is not available to all users at once, however all users will receive the update shortly.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Would you be able to accept OTA if you have everything stock except S-OFF?
[Desire HD General] Hadigery:
please delete this post
[Desire HD General] mateusm:
Just thought i'd throw some gas on the fire:
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
Yes
[Desire HD General] scaryshark:
...But you will lose s off in the process and it would probably be impossible/very difficult to get back
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
So If I flash this, it will take me back to stock?

Is it the correct one to flash for a unlocked desire hd on pay as you go?

cheers

Matt
[Desire HD General] uvejsi2009:
The Advanced Ace Hack Kit
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Yes its the correct one
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Do you lose S-OFF if you run the android 4 ruu from shipped roms when its released?
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Yes. Official ROMs from HTC will lock everything back down
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
But I didn't lose S-OFF when I ran the ruu for android 2.3.5 sense 3.0 so that one is safe.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Mhm weird. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought they would turn it back on.
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
no leaks, no ota, this is frustrating.

htc is bad service.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Hate the wait too, but HTC is still one of the fastest with giving updates :-/
[Desire HD General] Venom~:
The HTC Evo here in SA just got there update , now just to wait for the DHD one and well one of the chefs to remove the fluff
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Nice!

DHD is the last device HTC is going to update to ICS (See HTC's ICS update list)
[Desire HD General] ymeri:
Update is coming today ...:good:.:laugh:.:eek:...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1564950&page=47
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
Source ?
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
Yeah but that rom is not fully functional
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
I don't see what the IceSense ROM has to do with the official HTC android 4.0 update .. In fact roms like IceSense need the official update in order to be able to make the camera work.
[Desire HD General] Walderstorn:
Whatever he is using the camera doesnt work so we still have to wait i guess?
[Desire HD General] callmemycool:
Speaking of updates. Does anyone know something about attempts to port Incredible S official ICS to Desire HD? I saw somewhere (yeap, not that good memory) on the forum a disscusion on this. But I missed the link.

Anyway – just waiting patiently for DHD ICS official :)

Have a nice evening.
[Desire HD General] Anfetamin:
I guess that is joke. what it has to do with the official update?
[Desire HD General] datsun_1600:
looks like Vodafone Australia have the update and are just about to test it out... still no leaks...

Sorry about the spaces- I am not allowed to post links yet...

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[Desire HD General] shithead:
Voila! :)

http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-04072012/

I would be happy if ICS rom has bren leaked. I mean, they can use the kernel for custom roms, right? :)

Mhm ... For stock/aosp ics rom :D
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
finally we get ics. no sleeping tonight. making all preparation already.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
I was wondering. Jelly Bean is actually an improved version of ics, right?

Does it mean if we want to have JB roms, we need official JB kernel from HTC?

Or can chefs use the ics kernel too for jb? :)

I'm not really sure how much the differences are between ics and jb, but if im correct, i don't think google mad huge changes on technical side (like they did with GB to ICS)
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Are you joking? Don't get your hopes up too high mate.

Correct. But we dont need htc's kernel for JB. I suppose devs could use the old one, not too many changes AFAIK/. Still kernel 3
[Desire HD General] cbarai:
This article gives the date for TELUS to release the HTC DHD ICS update.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/TELU...-Galaxy-Note-Pushed-to-Late-July-279060.shtml
[Desire HD General] bragh:
how nice is that?
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
well then...... July 17 it is.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Nice! So when DHD's ICS rom is out, we can expect ICS and JB AOSP roms, right?

Wow :) Good news! :D

I'm wondering if other ICS devices already have some JB roms. Gonna check their forum sections :)

EDIT: Seems they're not good enough for daily use (those JB ports). Just a matter of time :)
[Desire HD General] johrie:
JB roms are not working correct yet because most of them are Gnexus ports or SDK ports we need to wait for the source to come out.

And for AOSP ICS and JB roms to work correct, we need kernel source. They have 90 days to post that source code and HTC will most likely wait till day 89 to post source :p However sense based roms should work with the kernel in the official update.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Oh yeah. forgot that part, they've only released GNex and SDK parts.

I don't even think DHD will get JB update, but if they do, I'm quite impressed with its support lifecycle :)

Well, let's hope porting JB to DHD (after having ICS kernel and AOSP release) won't be difficult :)
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
Any more news about update? I hate that HTC has nothing to say

Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
If there was news, you would know straight away...
[Desire HD General] springy:
Nah, with JB the Kernel and the HAL and other parts has all been changed. We need to wait for HTC to release kernels, unless someone by luck can hack the kernel to work... LOL (unless you want a JB that doesn't fully work)
[Desire HD General] nothing94:
Any news about the update?
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
No nothing new so far :(
[Desire HD General] commando0:
where is 9th july rumour ...........
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
We need to wait 1 more day. And watch that 3 update date was a lie or not :)

Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
Indeed.

this was the link

http://www.tre.se/Privat/Kundservice/Mobilguider/Android-40-uppdateringar/

IT DOES SAY 9 JULY AHMAGAWD!!!

=p
[Desire HD General] commando0:
htc loves to test their roms before release .....

this time they are silent ....

seems fishy .....
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
Maybe we will be surprised tomorow:rolleyes:

Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191
[Desire HD General] nothing94:
Don't loose Hope, tomorrow will be the Day :-D
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Maybe you shouldn't get your hopes up too high ;)
[Desire HD General] bomma001:
Very Good news

Looking for this for a long time - - :good:
[Desire HD General] Fatos:
For them that dosent know today is 8 of July so it means that the update should roll out tomorrow. And that its still 100 % sure.
[Desire HD General] Springdale:
I think most of us knows that today is the 8th of July. And unless it is on the HTC blog, how could you call that "100% sure" LOL.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Look guys it will get here when it gets here. Doesn't really matter for the most part. Almost no one will here will be able to update until it is posted here. The OTA will not work unless your full stock. And for those waiting for AOSP then you still have a few months to wait

Sent for a corner cell in Arkham
[Desire HD General] Springdale:
To be honest I have waited until february-march, but I don't care since then.

Only thing I am looking forward to now is the appeareance of Windows Phone 8 devices, and I do not plan even looking at a HTC product in the future.
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
Will give the stock rom a try with apex launcher though, see if it's smooth enough for daily use, the thing is that everything should 100% work and battery life should be quite good.

Question: when the first leak is there of the stock android 4.0 htc rom, for those like me, with rooted phone, is there a possibility someone makes some kind of installable zip file for us to flash via recovery so we can try out the official rom right away anyways ?
[Desire HD General] stiflingcobra:
Someone did last time so I expect it will be the same this time. Last time it was about two days behind the leak...
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Most likely there will be. Bit you are forgetting something. Sense will drag it down as it always does. Any speed improvements that you may have seen with Roms like Icecold you will not see on a stock rom.

Sent for a corner cell in Arkham