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[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
Nokia knows hardware and MSFT is now playing that game. If NOK gets cheaper than breakup value, could get interesting.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
I wonder what Nokia will get for licensing their mapping service to MS for W(P)8 and they also produce the developer devices for WP8 and will likely produce all the phones for Microsoft employees and the devices MS will hand out. Even though the stock is very low now, if W8 and WP8 will succeed I can only imagine Nokia will benefit greatly in the end.

All speculation of course, but I think the stock market does not realize this as much. Short term situation is kind of messed up though as MS effectively killed the Lumia sales for Q3-Q4.
[Windows Phone 7 General] albertleao:
Hahahahaha. Good point. Giants aren't gonna go anywhere this year I think. :D

Remember guys! You can lose ALL OF YOUR MONEY in the stock market, and you can do it pretty quickly.

Want to learn about investing? Then put your money in a CD and spend 1 year teaching yourself about the stock market. After a year, take that money, and invest a small amount of it in the stock market. See how well you do with that ;P
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
8% haircut today for NOK

Looks like it happened again! 8% off the top in one day. The DOW was down 1% so NOK decided to answer with -8%. Why 8% in one day? What happened?

21% loss for the OP in one month.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
NOK down 5% today

Well let's see...

You've racked up a 26+% loss in less than two months. What do you think?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sermann:
Any "turnaround" investment is for the long run, so I don't think a 26%+ loss will worry the OP very much at this stage. Now, if they don't come out in 1-2 years, than he might regret the purchase.

Cheers,

Stephen
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ he never stated what his investment strategies were. So we don't know how he expects to make money on this thing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Well, since you asked...

By this logic, you should buy even more now. Its cheaper !
[Windows Phone 7 General] makark:
At 1.97 or whatever it is now it can't hurt to buy 100$ worth for this fall if they don't work out oh well if they do then you'll have yourself some spending money. Buy more than that and you'll b gambling . I'd sit on it awhile and forget about it if you didn't spend too much. Check in a year or so
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Another 5% hit... Under $2 now.

Yeah, this stock just printed a one handle. Unfortunately that one handle is followed by a decimal point not a zero.

I do not have a morbid fascination with this stock. I'm just wondering if there is a point where a trade makes sense. What are the odds this thing gets liquidated? NOK could get tempting at some point... maybe.
[Windows Phone 7 General] beatseek@live.com:
Ouch, Touche!

But in all seriousness, with a stock like this (actually, any stock on the way down), there is no telling when it bottomed out (if at all). All I can do is hope that I bought the stocks pretty close to the bottom. Therefore, I put aside a certain amount of money, assuming that in the long term Nokia's stock will turn around; If I would have bought these stocks today (instead of a few weeks ago), I would have put down the same amount.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jpoirier587:
It's a smart buy period. Stocks are a form of gambling. At the price Nokia stock is at right now you won't hurt to bad If Nokia goes belly up but stand to gain substantially if things can be turned around. The fact is that companies as large as Nokia don't just disappear too often. Chances are Nokia will be around in one form or another and will be worth more than it is right now. Ford stock is a good example. I bought it at one of it's lowest points around two dollars a share and now it's at 9.50 a share. Small risk, big reward.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ hmm no. Nokia may end up on the pink sheets, and companies disappear to them all the time.

They've already been downgraded to junk status. There is absolutely no signs of a turn around, only vapor ware. They are not expected to repay their loans. Billion dollar loans mind you, and Nokia is only estimated to be working with 4 billion in capital, and they're burning through that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] crazyjack18:
maybe u a right ..
[Windows Phone 7 General] jpoirier587:
I'm banking on Nokia being purchased by another company. They have great design and build quality which is becoming the name of the game but terrible management. Buy it, strip the management and put in your own people and congratulations you'll have some of the best design and build quality to compete with apple, make people complain about their plastic gs3 from Samsung and leave HTC wondering what the hell happened. With the wow factor of smartphones and their capabilities wearing off it's going to start to become about who builds the quality hardware. Samsung is on a precarious ledge as far as build quality. yes their devises are selling well but their end of dominance will be brought around by continuing to make plastic phones. Nokia in my opinion is the only cell phone maker in the world that can match apples build quality.

Personally I think Microsoft will buy them as they circle the drain to aid in their tablet and phone ventures. don't forget about Nokias patents. That's a very big deal.

I'll risk a few hundred for the chance to make thousands. But to each his own.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ Build quality doesn't move the price of stock. Sorry.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
I was thinking the same. The point of the company is to SELL PRODUCTS, and be profitable. Doesn't matter if the build quality is 20x better than all others if they aren't profitable.

Sooooo, microsoft buys them (who killed the company for microsoft again) in 6 months. They still will not be profitable, still will not sell phones (look at wp7 sales) and still will not, most importantly, repay you.

Why give them your money ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
psshht! Give em a break, poor boys ;[
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Mmm, I did sound harsh looking back. Sorry. ::-) Just against giving people more good money after bad results.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jpoirier587:
They wouldn't buy Nokia for the brand, they would be bought to mine their patents and design talent and be would be integrated into Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ the talent has left. However if Nokia is one of the partners with Jollo, then we might see a small uptick for Nokia.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
maybe some sense will come to the very broken patent extortion system... oops I mean patent system. Its strangeling innovation, and rewarding the lawyers. Double bad.

There should be a"can't compete, must release" to those patents.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aphasaic2002:
So in the past few days Nokia stock dropped to $1.79 - it's lowest price in 16 years. It's now back up to $1.90, as the price was so low people started buying (aka a dead cat bounce).

Nokia are also predicted to announce poor Q2 earnings this week; if that happens stock price will tumble again.

To the original poster, the writing is now on the wall; think carefully about selling your current shares before they become totally worthless.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Check this out

http://articles.marketwatch.com/201...74_1_smart-phones-apple-and-google-android-os
[Windows Phone 7 General] the92playboy:
Not sure if I would take Dvorak's tech predictions too seriously. He hints at Jolla having more success than Windows, which is fairly laughable, in my humble opinion. But you can always look at his other predictions and decide for yourself if he is on track with this one or not:
[Windows Phone 7 General] chrischoi:
You just increased your net worth by $7.55.
[Windows Phone 7 General] LastBattle:
I have 9000 shares right now, bought when its around 2-3 dollars.. Gonna pump in more once it hits 1.5 USD.

Not concerned about short term outlook, I am looking into 2016++
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZoSo925:
I'm on the same boat and bought 5,000 shares and waiting past 2016.

I've been to CES and Comdex several times over the years and Microsoft has a bigger picture going on for it's plans for the future in this digital age. Nokia has a lot of good technology and patents that it really does seem too good to pass up.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Don't give up, 1.50 is just around the corner !
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Feeling charitable, you could've just purchased 5000 shares of pink sheets. Would've been cheaper.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jerdog:
It's also a best seller on the stock market..... :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
The stock is actually up 15% right now, but that's due to a spike in volume and lumias selling 4 million
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
7% up today.

Actually it closed the day up almost 7%... which brings it's price back up to where it was... Monday.

I'm going to wait and see what happens once the volume dies down again. For a stock that routinely has 5% down days the earnings report was only good for a 7% pop.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
I wonder how many shares would need to be sold to cover the fees at this price ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-20/nokia-debt-rating-cut-to-junk-at-fitch
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
The NOK we all fell in love with is back!

Down 7.5+% after earnings bump.:( Maybe I'm insane but I'm still trying to figure out an entry point.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
what I don't understand, is why?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Localhorst86:
Simply because the current stock market differs greatly from how it was originally intended. It used to be a place that allowed people to invest in a company they believed in to be profitable in the long run. Nowadays it's simply a betting bureau. People bet on rising and falling stocks in a fraction of seconds (high frequency trading). It sickens me.

Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
The stock market is better understood by psychologists than finance experts.

The masses now have instant access to markets and information, but not the expertise to make proper decisions from analysis. The result is that media and the resulting groupthink are driving market decisions and dynamics as much as the mutual fund managers and large banks were in the old days.

I'm not saying that big money shaping the market was better...but at least the old days were more predictable, as markets followed some pretty simple rules regarding financial research and efficacy.

Fundamentals are today just a subset of the inputs you need to consider when buying stocks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ you guys make some interesting points.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
well put!

when people start trusting their employers to handling 401k accounts, look for another huge bubble...
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
NOK up 7%

Finance experts are psychologists.

Today? Was there ever a time when that wasn't true?

FYI NOK up a big 7% today on below average volume. No news. Wonder what's up... if anything.

---------- Post added at 08:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:13 PM ----------

This is why I laugh at the idea of Social Security privatization.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
someone is stealllllllling some money on this one!!!

wowzers!!!!

all it takes is laying off a few thousand people
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZoSo925:
Last 2 days have been really good :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
I guess soooo! folks that micro are making a killing.

wonder how many of those long run folks are still holding on.....lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Oh they probably sold at $1.70 and missed the run up.

Up 41% in two weeks!

Apparently the pop this morning at the open was due to a Lenovo buy out rumor. You think a hedge fund was accumulating at $1.70 and then feeding buy out rumors? Lenovo laughed at the rumor. Stock pulled back later in the day.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
I wonder how many folks are getting a nice bump for speculating.... hmmm..... no one brags when they double their money.....nope, notta soul!
[Windows Phone 7 General] kenikh:
I'm still holding. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
I'm not sure if there are enough people left to lay off to prop up the price again.

maybe a rumour of another company buy out will do it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aphasaic2002:
it's like a roller-coaster! Record dip, huge surge this week, and now Lenovo have denied buy-out rumours, down we go again..
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
OP is back at breakeven.

So you still holding this stock? Are you going to get off the roller coaster at break even or let it ride. NOW things get interesting.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZoSo925:
Closed $2.93 today. Can only get higher from here
[Windows Phone 7 General] LastBattle:
I bought 2000 shares a week back at 2.28. Now I have 11000 shares in total :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Another nice call

That call is going to cost you 10+% off the top...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
ya, noticed that. the jumps seem to be tied to nokia promoting feature phones as smartphones in africa/india. short lived bump, unless millions of iphone users suddenly dislike data contracts.

doubt it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZoSo925:
3.20 today. Lot's of movement
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
been watching that, there isn't any rhyme or reason, but who cares if you're making money off it....
[Windows Phone 7 General] sitizenx:
Yeah but I'm trying to understand. Is this BS true?

Link.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
iirc $1.68 was the point when really bad things were said.

guess how many people held out to double up?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZoSo925:
I wish I bought 10,000 shares @ 1.68 but I bought back in April at around 2.84
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lrrpie:
Anybody knows if Samsung Galaxy S2 supports EAP-SIM on the stock OS?

My S2 is running on Android 4.0.3. I read some thread and I think EAP-SIM may be available on some ROM(s).

I can see 3 options for EAP methods (802.1x): PEAP, TLS, TTLS.
[HTC EVO 3D] Palirna:
Hello, I have installed mwakiuos ROM 5.1.2. and when I am typing in landscape, the words suggestions bar is visible only partially, rest of it is hidden behind notification bar. When I drag it down, it stays there only until I finish the word and when I start typing another word, it is moved up again. I found out that this happend in imo and Talk. In Gmail it is ok. Any solution?
[Acer Iconia A500] julios6686:
Hello,

When i install a ROM on my A500, i have a message " random offset 0xXX"(where XX is different every time) but the install finish. When she was start, sometimes she's reboot. I want to restore a nandroid backup but i forgot this one.

Can you help me?
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
Random offset message in cwm is normal. Probably to do with busy box in the install script. So ignore it. We get this with a lot of HC roms.

Random reboot can depend on your rom you are using, and if you did your complete wipes and formats before installing. Would help to know which rom you are using.

If you do not have a nand backup, then obviously there is nothing to restore from. :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] Vintage144:
Words to live by!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
as the title says.....the problem starting couple days ago, when I received the updates for some apps from my list and I was not able to do update via WIFI. strange thing is that I can do it via 3G. The browser and other apps working fine on WIFI, and also I can access the Google PLay, but I can't update or download... I clean the caches, but still not working. Any help? thanks for any answer
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daman215:
1,2,3

1. if you have crack apps when google play load them to your my apps it will error out google play maybe a new feature.

2. reset your dpi to stock in rom control if your using a rom with it and reboot .

3. clear market cache,data reboot but still must have stock dpi.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
thanks for a quick replay. I have a stock rom, no root, no custom rom. I did only clear market cache and reboot, but still not working. I can search on Market, but can't download or update via WIFI. .......strange, never happened....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arzbhatia:
Try all of these -

1. Go to applications > Play store > Clear Cache/Data

2. Go to applications > Download Manager > Clear Data

3. Go to recovery > Advanced > Wipe Dalvik Cache

4. Go to recovery > Wipe Cache
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dallastx:
What error message? If not a error message force close app and reboot. If that doesn't work, log into another Google account in your market see if you can get downloads. If that works, something is wrong with your account syncing. If it still dosent work i would factory restore. Somehow a setting seems to may have been changed on accident or you internal drive just acting crazy and needs to be reformated "same as factory reset". This normally is most common on apps restored from a backup or lack of storage/memory
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
I already done no 1 & 2. For 3 & 4 I don't have a custom recovery.... and still doesn't work! The phone is under contract at Vodafone, and it's locked in network. I can't put custom recovery on it or other ROM...unfortunately.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
mate, if I switch WIFI off and I do update or a download via 3G, works just fine. I can't understand why doesn't work via WIFI ? it could be because I changed my router?????
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dallastx:
Sounds like your wifi is restricting data downloading over a certain size or is blocking all download traffic from the market due to router policies set up. Factory reset phone and format internal drive. Well maybe hard resetting the router may be a good idea before losing all your phone info although it will come right back since its probably connected to google contacts and programs you already downloaded.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
it could be a good idea to do a hard reset, but my son will be really disappointed loosing all the games progress.....if had a root access, I could do a Titanium Backup, .......anyway. Thanks for all of you, I'll try doing a hard reset
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
already reset my phone.....useless. same situation. can't update or download via WIFI....works only with 3G. any other solution?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
just unlock bootloader, rooted and install Cyanogen 9. still can/t use WIFI for download and update. what other solution can solve my problem?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ovigt71:
problem solved....for whom have DrayTek Vigor 2700Ge router....the solution I found http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1840357# . now everything become to normal! hope it helps!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vashna:
Hello everyone

I have a problem with my Lg optimus 7 fully unlocked

I've changed the OEM market a couple of time,with wph tweaks and WinTT, but now I put back the lg market

however, when I try to use panoramic photo, an LG app,it says that my phone is not LG and it doesn't work

Before an hard reset, did you have a possible troubleshooting?

thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gampanat:
Change the OEM to LG marketplace, wait for it to apply to the marketplace (a few hours or like a day) and then it should work. Hope your phone is "LG" and not something else in the registry also. Theres always negative results of changing in the registry.

I got this problem too, but I prefer "having" a Lumia :P

check my signature.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vashna:
thanks for the reply

I've tried several time to restore the LG store, delete and reinstal the app, rebooting the phone between every step, but nothing work, at this point it can be a registry problem

All the nokia app works in your phone? can you tell me how can I do the same?

If I use the nokia store, only a few and usless app work

I can live without panoramic photo if I can use all the nokia app:)

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gampanat:
The time you have to wait for your phone to recognize it again and change back the marketplace could be between an hour or a day.

Note: What I did with my phone is very very risky and may brick your phone since it has registry changes etc.

I got LG Optimus 7 with Mango latest update.

Changed via Registry DeviceTargetingInfo

MODeviceName

Lumia 800

OemName

NOKIA

And my phone is OPN (No special simcard req)

Rebooted the phone and it changed everything on the phone to "nokia".

I did a few more stuff for boot and such.. but I'm not going to write it on here.

I also got the latest Nokia apps fully working without crashing at all and registered on Nokia Labs and my phone.

Now both Zune & Windows Mobile device manager thinks my phone is a Lumia 800 and shows the phone and options when I plug it in. Also I might be able to update my phone somehow randomly to nokia lol...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vashna:
oh wait...maybe it' s here the problem

in DeviceTargetingInfo, I have LG_blocked...WTF is this "__blocked"

Did you know what is the right registry key for the LG?

thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gampanat:
I don't know what LG_Blocked means, but maybe because your phone is locked to a operator, ex. AT&T.

I have no idea else, just wait for an answer :)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vashna:
Yessss

I've changed the registry key OemName to LG, deleted "wph tweaks" app, and now it work

thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lamborg:
how did you FULLY unlocked O7?? or do you mean interop and dev unlock only??
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gampanat:
Me?

I bought it from the store unlocked.

And then I interop and dev unlocked it :)
[HTC One S] wilcoholic:
Why do people keep saying that the battery life of the HTC One S is awesome?

I seriously get no more than 4 hours of screen time (although the standby time was 30 hours) and thats with very very aggressive battery saving methods. I just can't get more than that. Most of the time between 2-3 hours under moderate/heavy use with standard settings.

Same thing goes for AMOLED. Yesterday I was only using the stock browser with INVERTED colors, aggressive battery saving profile and nothing else. And still, still I only got 4 hours out of it. How is this even possible? I mean everything on my phone was pitch black. Wallpapers, themes, websites. But under normal use I basically get the same results?

Has this been a lie all this time?
[HTC One S] Someone09:
I´d say 4 hours of screen time is pretty good.

At least assuming you havn´t had it to min. brightness.
[HTC One S] willumpie82:
I think people aren't comparing the same figures

screentime vs battery uptime
[HTC One S] The Jones:
4 hours of screen time with 30 hours of total use is pretty damn good for any smartphone.
[HTC One S] stoneyjonez:
I've owned several android devices and the difference in battery life from all the others to the One S is ridiculous. I really don't see what you're complaining about.

Sent from my HTC One S.
[HTC One S] HighRoIIer:
I don't think that the Battery is that great. If i use it moderate i survive a day. That is okay but not great. My galaxy S lasted a half day longer...

But it is realy useless to discuss it. There is no standard for moderate or heavy use. If i use it very low because i am busy with something else it holds two days and more...

But 4h screen on and still 30h runtime sounds pretty good to me too ;)
[HTC One S] WCCobra:
I did 2 hours of on screen time (browsing the internet over Wifi, downloading apps, etc.), and my battery went from 100% down to ~70%. I'm pretty happy with that.
[HTC One S] ickster:
+1
[HTC One S] rolliesandoval:
I get a full days worth. And I'm a heavy user. Currently using leedroid 2.0
[HTC One S] Totòòò:
One day is the most u get by heavy using a smartphone. This thread is non sense.