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[Desire HD General] shithead:
HTC did give HTC Desire the Gingerbread update. The reason why they were doubting to update Desire to GB was because the device didn't have enough memory for putting Gingerbread + HTC Sense on it. HTC gave Desire the Gingerbread update, but they removed a lot of apps due lack of internal memory.

DHD does have 1,5GB which is enough for ICS + Sense 3.6. Newer devices like Desire S, Incredible S and even the Sensation don't have that much internal memory.

I must agree, HTC does delay its updates and hype things up for their latest devices for the sales, of course. But I'm still happy they are willing to update our old DHD's, if they didn't cancelled it.
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
The 1.5gb is the total Data + system, the /system partition is actually about 512mb, which caused some issues in porting Sense 4
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Really? Didn't know that, but that's probably the reason why we get Sense 3.6, right?

I mean, Desire S, Incredible S, Sensation and other 2011-devices from HTC don't have that much internal memory and the system partition are probably also stored in that internal memory right?

Sensation got 1GB and Incredible S got 1.1GB (woohoo, 100MB more .. )

In other words, DHD is capable to run ICS + Sense
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
HTC claim sense 4 needs dedicated hardware
[Desire HD General] dannyling:
That's cool got rid of my desire after they stalled the update like my htc hero. I think our memory is 745mb which ics will run on my advent Vega is 512mb and runs fine with a bit of tweekin my evo 3d is 1gb again comes down to device or os evolution, thanks for your reply it good we still have dhd lovers
[Desire HD General] shithead:
No prob. I know it's frustrating for some users if they don't get the update. Tbh, I kinda hate it too if HTC would cancel or delay it. But I hate when people are saying that HTC is not good etc and how other manufacturer(s ) are better etc.

Officially, there aren't really minimum requirements for Android ICS and even for JB, if I'm correct. So should be possible to run JB on the first Android device, the G1. But if it runs smoothley, that's something else :P

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HTC isn't wrong neither with that ...

Every One-device has an extra chip for the camera.

We see Sense like an UI-skin on Android, but for HTC it's more than that.

HTC wants to improve the camera and sound quality and other things we barely care about :P

But the camera is a part of Sense 4.0.
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
guys there really isn't a reason to keep filling the thread with useless "I hate HTC" posts. You got your hate posts in now wait for the update if there still is an update. If not then move to your next phone and shut up. People are right. HTC is probably the best at updating their phones s moving to Samsung will not help your problem. If you want the latest and greatest then get a nexus phone every time. If nexus isn't for you then I would stay with HTC...HTC is probably your best bet if not nexus
[Desire HD General] superstick1:
Agree.. it's really not necessary to spend or buy a new device just because we will not get an update. Of course I myself will want that update.. But seriously, technology changes fast these days. The moment you buy a new phone, another phone with better specs comes. We should be thankful (really) that we have Sense 3.5 (otherwise only Sense 3.0) in our DHD. Credits all goes to our great developers here. :)
[Desire HD General] soleil10:
Good point. But we still want an ICS update from HTC.
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
The main reason we want the update is kernel 3, which would make camera in sense 4 work
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
iirc lord clockan said somewhere kernel 3 wouldn't even fix the videocamera 720p problem.
[Desire HD General] s4k1s:
Imho the only reason we're getting sense 3.6 and not 4.0 is that sense 4.0 is a really BIG selling point of new htc phones.. giving sense 4.0 to every previous device would make many ppl stay with their old phones and not buy new ones.. and I'm pretty sure that is the reason for the delay of the ICS update in our phones.. Don't forget that Desire HD is the oldest device in HTC's upgrade list. They want us to get new devices.. That's how the industry moves forward.. ;)
[Desire HD General] kb997:
DHD is a powerful phone. HTC giving ICS for him give himself a shot in the knee, because the newer models will have a assists sales. Sorry for my english.
[Desire HD General] FireBlast:
If this bug (I mean 720p recording) is not related to kernel so what is it? Why doesn't it work?
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Yes telus said that HTC said it. Let HTC speak for them selves.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
It is due to the closed source drivers/lib files that work with the new kernel. Without either one then it will be the same. People are seeing the same thing on JB. The stock ICS files dont work 100% for JB due to the drivers being made for different hardware.
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
GUYS !!

GOOD NEWS

TO DAY I ASKED FOR ICS UPDATE IN THE HTC FACE BOOK PAGE

AND HERE IT IS

MY QUESTION :

please answer it ,

desire hd update is cncelled from htc ?

please answer me . thanks

ANSWER :

I don't think it is, that "proofs" for it sounds too fishy and too fabricated. And, it was on a Canadian carrier anyways. So, I wouldn't believe it...

AND

that canadian carrier MIGHT have cancelled it on THEIR phones, anything outside that is pure speculation..

https://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/1...t=feed_comment
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
it doesnt make sense that desire s ,incredible s got ics and had no problems with it and desire hd got a bad performance with ics, thats bull**** from a hardware point of view,cause all their hardwares are identical except front camera may be , if and when htc cancel the ics update officially then they should look at what the BLACKOUT TEAM did with the ics rom in dhd section its functioning 100% apart from camera and it runs perfect may be their devs are not up to the job or they want us to get the HOX which is not an option at the moment for a flagship marred with software and hardware problems on all fronts
[Desire HD General] johrie:
1. This was already been awnsered by someone else.

2. Isn't this wat everyone is saying?
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
this is for me and i got it 10 min ago:)
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
But still that's not an HTC reply ,is it ?
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
I GET SCREEN SHOT FOR YOU NOW .:cowboy:

PW
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
HERE YOU ARE:cowboy:
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
YES !

THIS IS HTCs SUPPORT DUDE !

https://www.facebook.com/Droider.se
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
I got info from htc that they wont cancel the update. And it will come still july-august :)

Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
CAN YOU SHOW THAT INFO FOR US PLEASE ?:angel:
[Desire HD General] makey404:
Thanks for the info! I want keep my DHD for at least 6 months more (a year may be?:rolleyes:)
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
Dear Audrius,

Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your HTC Desire HD.

My name is Georgina and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.

I understand that you are enquiring about the ICS update for the HTC Desire HD.

We have had no confirmation that the ICS Android 4.0 update will be canceled due to testing. We will still be releasing the update in the time frame provided.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191
[Desire HD General] janarp:
why u guys need any proof?? just wait max 1 month and u get ur update or not..=) when 1 month waited and no update start spamming HTC..=)

sry for my english =)=)
[Desire HD General] Nadirchine:
If HTC says ” I wanna to protect last family products such as HTC C，HTC ONE V， and so on”. from this point i can understand， but if HTC said DHD can nt excute ICE 4.0，then we will say that is the bigest lie from phone manufacturer companies . :banghead::banghead:
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
Don't know if there's any truth to this. I hope to god not.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/...tc-desire-hd-android-4-0-ics-update-in-doubt/
[Desire HD General] shithead:
I sense some sarcasm here :silly::D
[Desire HD General] johrie:
Not sure if trolling or serious :I
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
Well I have a friend that works with Telus, and he is going to be firing off a few emails to find out what the hell is going on. he does not work in mobile but he is going to try to find some info, and I will pass it on. We need to find out info NOW!!
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
Tell him to find the kernel on their system ;)
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
MY FRIENDS ...

GO TO PREVIOUS PAGES AND READ MY POSTS ...

ICS COMING FOR US .

DONT WORRY .:cowboy:
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
He is not in the mobile department, but he will try to get the info, and I will ask him to see if they can get me the RUU, so we have it. I will be talking more to him tomorrow
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Glad you want to make us happy, but droid.se is not HTC support ...
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
It is most definitely not. It is a crowd sourced support page on Facebook. Not the same as official HTC support....no matter how clever they think they are.

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No it's bloody not. It's a crowd sourced support page. And the screenshot hardly proves a thing. What it does prove though is that they know as little as we do.
[Desire HD General] donkyshot:
Had an email this morning, check my post here or view email here
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Thanks! :)
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
Here's what a "volunteer helper" from the HTC UK Facebook page has to say about the situation....

Admittedly this is a "volunteer helper", but what he says seems to make sense.

So now we wait...

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That seems a bit more legit than some other stuff we've been hearing.

Thanks
[Desire HD General] donkyshot:
There is a thanksbutton you know :silly::good:
[Desire HD General] soleil10:
Just got answer from an important person from Telus Canada. The upgrade to ICS is definitly cancelled (not postponed) with Telus.

It is normal that an agent for answering emails does not know the decision.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Lol yeah, .. too lazy xD

That's why I got this nickname xD

About the Volunteer helper-thingie on Facebook. Yeah, it does make sense

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Ok thanks. We'll see in the future what HTC has to say about the update
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
Well I guess we will see what I can get from my friend, may i just ask, who did you get the info from, and can you PM me please
[Desire HD General] soleil10:
Done. and i hope i have got the false info.
[Desire HD General] blade30p:
You mean Coming In, right?

Sent from My Omega powered beast, using Xparent ICS
[Desire HD General] blade30p:
Don't you just love the "info from an important person at (insert relevant name here) posts. I want his name, address, left show size & the name of his dog before I believe any of this nonsense...

Sent from My Omega powered beast, using Xparent ICS
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
my freind ...

These guys knows if updatE is cancelled from htc !

No dubt .
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Not Always ...

EDIT:

Sorry, I thought you wanted to say: "They know

why

HTC has cancelled it" :-s :P
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
I'm sure its coming ...

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20% is possible they are dontknow .

but 80% tehey are know ,

you dont think so ?:confused:
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Yeah sorry. I thought you said "They know why HTC has cancelled it". :silly:

Sorry, my bad :silly::p
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
What!? You serious? Sometime it's these very people that are responsible for all the misinformation and downright bs that ends up being taken as fact.

You're awfully trusting aren't you?
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
Well their is always the possibility that they will do the same thing as they did for the desire, release a developers edition on htc dev where it is stock ICS.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
I wish they do that with every update for their devices ...

Just a stock/vanilla android rom for devs :)
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
Yeah, they eventually caved in after loads of complaints from Desire owners. I'd imagine we'd probably have to do the same. Let's hope it doesn't come to that though.
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
no problem honey:p

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yea this is me :o
[Desire HD General] ROBINGAZI:
A quick question: How different is the Telus DHD from other DHDs or even the non-branded ones?
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
that would be really really nice! Someone could maybe start a petition to send to them maybe?
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
No difference, just the carrier
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
and carrier make choice for update for device .

Right ?:)
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
There are differences. The Telus DHD is more like an Inspire 4G.

I remember this from CM nightly problems around a year ago.
[Desire HD General] japre:
Guys and girls,

1) are you buying the phone for updates or because of his parameters/build quality?

2) are you really think that HTC doesn't test performance of Desire HD ICS update BEFORE HTC officially confirmed that it will be realeased?

3) marketing really exists! Htc wants better sales of his new phones and Telus has his own reasons for canceling ICS update

4) patience

Sorry for my english
[Desire HD General] littleluke79:
Exaggeration

I think, some of you guys realy exaggerate about all the ISC thing, crying as old ladies.
[Desire HD General] JediDevil:
What is so much better on ICS that you can not wait for update?

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire HD A9191 mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
We want kernel 3
[Desire HD General] JediDevil:
And why?

What makes my phone better with kernel 3

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire HD A9191 mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD General] janarp:
Then we get full sense 4 wiseguy :D
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
We don't get full sense 4 (we already have that :P)

We get a working camera in sense 4
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
No. The RUU was leaked, but the kernel source wasn't.
[Desire HD General] tom!79:
Well i hope that the info is real, on htc blog is still flagged July / August, im waiting only for optimized sense ui, but if u wanna try a fast and stable ics try ice cold sandwich with a bfs kernel.
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
Me too..i'm waiting for a fully working Sense ICS Rom.

IMHO...can't beat Sense ;-)

Matt
[Desire HD General] freesch:
agree
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
So close now :) and mabye we get a leak soon to :)

Sent from my mind.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Guys, it doesn't mean you will get it at the start of July!

The Desire S has been told to get the update June-July, it's already mid-June, and the update hasn't even rolled out to the first device yet!

Desire S • Fallout V2.0.0 • xda premium
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
:'( but we might get a leak early :)?

Sent from my mind.
[Desire HD General] chrisund123:
Yes, I think that's what everyones most interested in lol.
[Desire HD General] stiflingcobra:
As long as we get a rooted leak ;-)
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
The leaks are good, only for Sense ROMs. It means that Sense based ROMs will now function, but it is practically useless for AOSP... So don't get your hopes up if you are an AOSP fan.

Desire S • Fallout V2.0.0 • xda premium
[Desire HD General] minhduc44:
it's almost july now. i cant wait any longer to have full working ICS with sense. so excited :)
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Well i like sense roms so :D

Sent from my mind.
[Desire HD General] chrisund123:
+1

Half the point of getting an HTC IMO.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
But the Sense ROMs won't be fully optimized, as they are using a leaked kernel. Everything will work, but it will be slightly slower, and laggier...

Desire S • Fallout V2.0.0 • xda premium
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
YES!!

Possibly, yes.
[Desire HD General] TwistedSanity666:
I would have liked HTC to release an official higher capacity battery for the DHD, that would have been far more useful.
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
Oh well...i guess u r rite.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
We still get android 4 :)
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
In the end it will be a win/win for both parties. People that like Sense will have it and the AOSP crew will get the kernel source that will fix most of the bugs they have right now. And then it will all come around again when the next release is out. Except this time there will be 0% chance that the DHD will get that update.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
No but hopefully we get a port :)
[Desire HD General] janarp:
LOL thats what i mean btw.. fully working full sense 4... Is it better..... :D LOL
[Desire HD General] shithead:
probably the same. But they get updates from Telus and non branded gets from HTC directly
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
I was thinking... Telus said that they canceled their Update due to poor performance test. That means they have the Update!

Hope Someone can get their hands on that unreleased test build
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
Earlier someone said that they knew someone at telus. Even if they aren't in the right area of work, who's to say that they can't get hold of it somehow?
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
Right right! Someone should look up some HTC developer and flirt with that person and get a leak :D
[Desire HD General] domlin:
Not sure what to do when this comes out!

Keep IceColdSandwich or update to the official?!
[Desire HD General] shithead:
When it's out, I'm sure someone will root it and put the rooted version online ;)

Flash the rooted and if you don't like it, you can still flash back to other roms :)
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
Keep IceColdSandwich or if you want sense, flash a fixed Sense 4 rom
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
GUYS I GET AN E-MAIL FROM HTC :

Dear amir,

HTC does not announce dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle an situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that.

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[Desire HD General] Mikael01:
Update

About 14 days ago, I used the HTC Customer Care chat app and the worker told me that it is coming july/august just as the infographics on official HTC site says. If it was indeed canceled, i guess HTC would announce it first. My opinion is that TELUS ****ed the update up with some bloatware that actually hit the performance of the Desire HD, as it is quiet a powerful phone in my opinion, and even the stupid low-end new HTC phones are able to run ICS. I guess we will get more confirmation just about tommorow. But honestly, all these phone companies test EVERYTHING before they even announce it. By the time they announced that DHD is getting updated to ICS, they probably already had a working build...the only reason it is delayed so much is because they want people to buy their new ****ty One series...oh god that phone feels like a cheep toy in hand compared to good old DHD
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
yea your right
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
I have been with Telus with Android going on three years now. Their ROMs are stock HTC with no third party bloatware - not like American carriers. I believe they simply want to EOL the DHD. They just launched the ONE X on Friday. Now they carry the entire ONE series. That's why I believe they EOL'D the DHD.
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/14/htc-desire-hd-ice-cream-sandwich-update-cancelled/

http://www.androidauthority.com/telus-htc-desire-hd-ice-cream-sandwich-update-canceled-101120/

Does this mean ALL Desire HD users in any country will never get the update?

I'm on an unlocked Desire HD with a Three, pay as u go sim card.

Will we get it in UK?

All I want is Sense 4 exactly as it is now in the development section, but with fully working camera and camcorder.

This ever gonna happen?

Matt
[Desire HD General] Nadirchine:
this is the answer from HTC to me 7/15/2012 :cowboy:

Dear Medjitena Nadir,

Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center.

With regards to your inquiry,

Please note that the Ice Cream Sandwich will be coming later this year to HTC Rezound, HTC Vivid, HTC Amaze 4G, HTC Evo 3D, HTC Design 4G, HTC Incredible S, HTC Desire S, HTC Desire HD, HTC Rhyme, HTC 4G+, HTC Raider 4G. It is expected within July-August for hTC Desire HD.

We're continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich.

You will receive a notification on the handset when the upgrade is ready for your device. We would recommend using a free Wi-Fi hotspot or an unlimited data plan, otherwise standard data charges may apply.

To check for the update, kindly follow the steps below:

Menu -> settings -> about phone -> system software updates -> check

For more support information, you can contact us by phone: +20-238-272-820

Or you can go to http://www.htc.com/mea-sa/ select your country and then click on the Help tab.

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[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Even if they push an update it will not be Sense 4.
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
AND ITS MINE :

Dear amir,

HTC does not announce dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle an situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that.

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[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
I think he just means our current roms but with a working camera
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Well that will depend greatly on if the Sense Camera is the same one between the two. If it is then all is good. If it is not then it may take a while for it to be working. Just like the JB update. Alot of the ICS drivers and such dont work on JB.
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
We know it will make it work because kernel 3 fixed it for the desire s, sensation and incredible s
[Desire HD General] grigoriisi:
Until august 31 all this cancel and bs discussions are nonsense.
[Desire HD General] whiperhack:
Did someone actually tried to port the incredible s rom to DHD? These two phones are very similar and are produced in the same period of time. Maybe we have luck with Incredible S rom instead Sensation XL.
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
It's the kernel we want and that isn't easy to port