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[Desire HD General] JediDevil:
I hope this is no doublepost.

HTTP://htcpedia.com/news/Ice-Cream-Sandwich-Will-Be-Served-To-HTC-Desire-HD-Owners.html

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire HD A9191 mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD General] getaceres:
I ACTUALLY use IceColdSandwich because recording at 720p is not important for me and I've come to like stock ICS better than Sense but some people might prefer Sense interface over ICS. Also MIUI won't support officially Desire HD as long as there isn't an official ICS ROM from HTC.
[Desire HD General] GregskiUK:
MIUI support DHD, I will suggest go and speak with them directly on their IRC :) I have latest version of MIUI on my DHD and it's works fine:cyclops:
[Desire HD General] getaceres:
Not MIUI V4. At least not officially. We have some ports but just as CM9, MIUI will only support devices which have received official ICS.
[Desire HD General] ahm12:
what i dont understand is a 600mhz adreno 200 running desire c is running a ICS sense 4 rom.. but then why 1ghz adreno 205 desire HD performance was not satisfactory...i dont get it..
[Desire HD General] whiperhack:
Don't forget that the sense 4 from desire c is the light one. Real Sense 4 is on One X and One S. Desire HD will get Sense 3.6 which is imo more advanced on graphics than sense 4 light.
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
Desire HD will get update by end of august.

http://www.mobili.lt/lt/pasaulio_naujienos/ics_atnaujinimai_htc_desire_hd_ir_desire_s_modeliams_jau_pakeliui.html

Its in Lithuanian.
[Desire HD General] DaD92:
Same confirmation for france :

http://www.journaldugeek.com/2012/07/18/android-ics-htc-desire-hd-et-desire-s-finalement-mis-a-jour/

We will get the update during the summer.
[Desire HD General] iPwn_:
It also records in 15 FPS... which is horrible.
[Desire HD General] gitanshu:
http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=3&articleid=3607571

Read this! -_-
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
Haha they are to little to late!
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
Wtf! This is the same f@#£king article that people have been posting all week it's TELUS not HTC! I know that the article has Telus blaming HTC but other carriers claim its still on.
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
should we start screaming? :D

I think its time for Football to step in :)
[Desire HD General] g011um:
I scream. You scream. We all scream for Ice Cream (Sandwich).

Sorry.
[Desire HD General] Pop Tarantula:
no apology required. Funniest thing here in a while.....

TBH.. as its gonna be sense 3.6, the only thing to ***** & moan about is the delay getting the camera/mms/etc proper fixed.. When it's all officially available to build from, no-one with half a brain will run full stock...

XDA devs are waiting, quietly passing their time; meanwhile some USERS wet their pants like the world is ending..

Duh!
[Desire HD General] Dredead:
So, basically, HTC held off on the update in a poor attempt at pushing DHD owners to upgrade to the One series for a while. When they realised we all decided to stay because we are all well aware that this phone is boss, they pulled the update completely, forcing us to upgrade if we want ICS, support, or any updates at all.

I think this conclusion sounds quite reasonable. Their cover-up of "The device can't handle it" is and has been known to be completely untrue by the majority of DHD owners, let alone all of us here at XDA, and is therefore poor and woefully unsubtle... unless they are completely stupid and think we actually believe it. Seriously, they risk being ridiculed by every human with half a brain trying to lay that on us.

I am well aware that the news of HTC pulling the update may not even be true, who knows. But if it is, I almost guarantee you, this is the true reason why
[Desire HD General] dhd1802:
[tinfoil hat] yep, and their ploy worked because we are all upgrading to samsung phones... cause we all know its a conspiracy[/tinfoil hat]
[Desire HD General] paul c:
lol, the problem with internet, is that it's so difficult to know when someone is being ironic.

You are being ironic, no? :confused:
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
Last time I checked its all about " the USERS "
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
OK guys don't make me close this. While I understand everyone wanting the update. With the timeframe HTC gave (not carriers) then they have over a month to release it, if they are going to. If come September 1 it is still not here then start crying and complaining, untilled then lets chill out and wait.
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
let the kids cry out, its fun to watch this thread
[Desire HD General] dhd1802:
plus a few warnings for off-topic!
[Desire HD General] shaboobla:
Hey guys,

I sent out an email to TELUS asking about this as they are my wireless provider. This is the response I got.

Hello Ryan,

Please be advised that the decision to cancel the upgrade to the 4.0 software was not done by TELUS but by HTC due to the poor device performance during testing. Please note the comment at the bottom of the first table on the link on our website:

http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj_cache/pv_obj_id_AC73D0FC932B2612A18CCEEF78AE49 414BFC0200/filename/Device_OS_Upgrade_Schedule_July12th.pdf

TELUS is essentially a wireless network provider. We are not engaged in the manufacture of handsets nor do we own or operate facilities designed to create, upgrade or test software for wireless handsets. These technological capabilities are way beyond our business mandate and our capacity to deliver to the public.. Therefore, the decision to cancel or defer a software upgrade is not for TELUS to make but rightfully belongs within the domain of the manufacturer, which in this case is HTC.

I regret whatever inconvenience this may have caused you.

Should you require further information or assistance, please reply to this message, including your original e-mail and my response. If you prefer, you may also call our Client Care Team toll free Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, and Saturday and Sunday from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM at 1-866-558-2273 (or *611 from your wireless handset).

Thank you for choosing TELUS as your wireless provider.

Best Regards,

Freddie e-care Specialist TELUS
[Desire HD General] soleil10:
But why all other providers don't cancel the upgrade, only Telus? Why all other providers think about their users but not Telus?

But why all other carriers don't cancel the upgrade, only Telus? Why all other carriers think about their users but not Telus?

For ex. Vodafone has done this: Awaiting submission of second round software by manufacturer to Vodafone for testing.
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
Because telus like US carriers are fool of it. So much easier to blame something on someone else. They probably should have done what att did for the inspire if they were going to cancel their upgrade. Put it on eol and keep quiet
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
Who knows. Maybe Telus was weeks ahead of the rest and received test iteration two before the others, and were unsatisfied.

Regardless, we have a statement from HTC refuting the cancellation of ICS so... Whatever.
[Desire HD General] al2052:
Why all the fuss and panic over ICS upgrade, I have just updated the wifes phone to HTC Desire C which is 600mhz and running offficial Ice Cream Sandwich with sense 4 and runs absolutely fine, doesnt seem to offer anything more or less than my Desire HD with ARHD so performance on the HD cant be a problem.

I also recieved OTA update a couple of momths ago on my a500 tablet and to be honest it was an anticlimax after all the hype and panic from users on the forums, for me i lost some of the functions i was used to and some games then refused to work, for me it seemed like a retrograde step, so for me i will only perhaps upgrade purely because it will be the latest release and if it doesnt happen i will not lose any sleep.

---------- Post added at 01:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:34 AM ----------

In view of my last post, if the Desire C is issued with Ice Cream Sandwich why the delay for the HD release, surely the hard work is already done.
[Desire HD General] shilei7899:
Yes. They are.

We just want a fully working ICS Sense ROM.
[Desire HD General] Dredead:
If the news is true and that really was the reason they gave, then I am being 100% serious lol. Its such a laughable attempt considering we know the limitations of the phone.

They should just give Mike the ROM for a few weeks before release imo
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
i guess we dont hve to worry about upgrade to 4.0.

we already hve custom rom running.

Also, virtuous team wil release full working custom rom soon.

Even HTC cancel upgrade, we still can get ICS.

Jst be patient n lets see wat wil happen.

Best regards.
[Desire HD General] zachs_xda:
Just in case you guys haven't heard, the first kernel 3.0 port was successfully created from Primo base and running semi-stable for G2/Desire Z (Andromadus Kernel). http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28153679&postcount=747

Apparently, Flemmard and Fyodor did most of the kernel porting work. Wondering if they're doing the same for DHD!
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
Thank you for ur new info :D

I really appreciate it.

Best regards.
[Desire HD General] macanovic88:
+1

Sent from frozen DHD
[Desire HD General] ogbrandon:
The official Update Schedule has been removed and replaced with the following:

What is the overall timeline of Android 4.0 updates?

The majority of devices will receive upgrades in June and July 2012 and we expect to finish upgrades in August 2012 for all announced devices.

source: htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog

:confused:
[Desire HD General] stiflingcobra:
Ok so we should have the update by end of august then....
[Desire HD General] mikereidis:
I suspect it's the usual "creative story telling" (IE lies.)

They said:

The first part could be due in part to the bloat-ware Telus specified be included. They may have even purposely and artificially expanded the bloat-ware to create "poor device performance". Auto loading bloat-ware can suck up CPU as well as flash space.

The second part seems to have some twisted logic and may be present to confuse the issue. I find it suspicious that there are two periods at "public.. Therefore". As if a sentence was removed.

Telus is HTCs customer. When the customer says to the vendor "Say this, or at least don't deny you said it, and we will buy and push your new products", the vendor says "Yes, sir".

Especially when that vendor is struggling for past glory and profit.
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
Telus doesn't package bloatware.
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
Telus are probably worried they'll get complaints and device returns, as they are one of the only networks that still sell the DHD
[Desire HD General] z_sven:
On the htc Facebook page they (htc) wrote that they update their updating schedule at the moment...
[Desire HD General] ogbrandon:
Alright. I hope everything works flawlessly.
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
They are updating their updating schedule? What?
[Desire HD General] noam_el:
Link to that Facebook post?...
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
Yes, could we see that please?
[Desire HD General] tom1807:
I am following this thread now since it was created, mainly to wait for a post like "It's there".

Anyway, anyone claiming HTC won't update the DHD to ICS hasn't thought about the consequences if this would happen.

Not only a lot frustrated DHD users, but most important is, HTC would lose their credibility.

None would ever believe any statement from HTC anymore if for example they announce updates for their ONE series.

As previous already posted, the majority of users will consider twice if they ever would buy an HTC again and prefer any other vendor.

And for the Telus issue: The statement could be true.

Maybe Telus requested changes from HTC (don't forget HTC makes the update for Telus) and HTC just refused the changes cause it impacts the performance.

So HTC cancelled the update to ICS (for Telus).

Telus just "forgot" to mention that little part.
[Desire HD General] Scout2380:
I want to see Sense 4 Camera Work!
[Desire HD General] z_sven:
HTC said this as an answer to the question of an user, who ask when the update is ready to release:

http://www.facebook.com/abdul.patel.359#!/HTC/posts/10151266770458084
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
Thanks. I wonder what that's about then?
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
To be precisely they are renewing their update schedule with backdated information. Hell ..... I don't understand it anymore ...
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
Haha me neither!
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
They will announce that Desire HD wont get update, Telus already knew that and said first
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
Please go away

http://www.mobilenapps.com/articles/3174/20120719/htc-desire-hd-android-4-ics-update.htm

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD General] angramenyu:
If you are not giving true reports of your statements, then what are you doing on this tread?
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
ok guys last warning. I really dont want to close this thread as it serves a purpose but i will if it gets out of hand. So here is what I am gonna say on this. If you have new news then please post a link to the source of said news, If not then leave it alone. Some have given up on the update (Me for one, Nexus here I come lol). Some are still holding out hope for it. Either way we will not know until after the date or when it is released. No sense in people getting flamed one way or the other.
[Desire HD General] commando0:
i think htc update schedule has already been updated

initially dhd was getting ics in june - july

now its july - august ,

what you people say
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
You dont understand that htc spokesmen dont know anything more than whats written on official htc upgrade timelines, they go check htc blog and they still see that desire hd will get update, so they reply what they see.
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
So if everyone and everything is saying yes, why on earth do you think its getting cancelled?

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD General] Clayloo:
Dear Mod,

Pls ban this guy as he just kept giving such nonsense here ...
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Haha
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
Im just being very sceptical about all these things. you know that carriers always get stuff from htc sooner than end users. they get to test roms first, so they also get info from htc sooner than end users. and i cant believe that telus could lie, i mean such a big a powerful company lying? if they do that, then it will make their reputation really bad. in fact they crearly state that its htc decision, not theirs. also its very possible because desire z which also got same specs (except less ram) wont get ics, and they are same generation phones, and they were both high end. and as i said htc spokesmen just repeat whats written officialy, and that official info is already months old
[Desire HD General] sonnysoul:
Gosh dude, just chill out and wait for August to end. How can you say the Desire HD is unlikely to get ICS because the Desire Z isn't getting it, and then state that it has less ram? If you did your research you would know that the Incredible S which has the same processor and same ram as the Desire HD, already has the ICS update rolling out.

Everyone needs to stop posting crap saying the Desire HD won't get the ICS update, and stop moaning about HTC taking time to release it. They said July/August, so just wait until August is over. Also, since Telus announced they were cancelling the ICS update, HTC have updated their blog saying "The majority of devices will receive upgrades in June and July 2012 and we expect to finish upgrades in August 2012 for all announced devices." Check it out for yourself HERE.

Now stop being so childish and live your life instead of wasting it waiting for a software update.
[Desire HD General] davevo:
ICS for DHD Coming soon ? Thnks! :D
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
Why don't you read the thread and see?
[Desire HD General] Nadirchine:
maybe next month
[Desire HD General] callmemycool:
After all that had been written...
[Desire HD General] z_sven:
It is posted thousand times before, but in addition here is a very clear statement of HTC, that the DHD will get ICS:

http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10151269437413084
[Desire HD General] Taknarosh:
Here's TELUS' official response to the Desire HD ICS update situation:

http://www.androidbugle.com/2012/07/telus-response-to-htc-desire-hd-android.html
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
If HTC don't release ICS for desire HD then I'm not going to buy another HTC phone, it will be a nexus or sg3.

Sent from my Desire HD charged with ICS.
[Desire HD General] Feromon:
HTC will miss you ..for sure!!!

Better buy a whirlpool and wash your brain!
[Desire HD General] shunfanit:
waiting and waiting....:crying:
[Desire HD General] CHAMAVELI:
I've been contacting Vodafone AU about the update, testing is underway so stop with the cancellation posts!

As for contacting them, I also asked if it's possible to release a community build for us to test, but they wouldn't :( At least I tried.

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Oh I'm sure nobody care what phone you will buy.
[Desire HD General] teerapong.g:
Come to the time change phone ===> S3
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Not even if someone else was paying for it lol:banghead:
[Desire HD General] Fatos:
People are brainwashed from commercials . At the moment htc might be not the best with doing bussines. But htc makes the best phones and has the best service. Samsung is a piece of plastic crap. My Desire hd 2 years old phone still looks better than latest phones of Samsung. Yes it is a single core but my pc has 8 so i use that one for speed heheh. Looking forward to update whenever it comes.
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Agree with you, until now I dont see the benefit of using quad core processor in smartphone. For daily use my DHD served me very well. All application from Market runs very well. Maybe the quad-core phone like HOX or SGS3 will show its true potential when it is run HD gaming application altough DHD still can run last-year HD games from Gameloft such as 9MM, Asphalt 6, or even (maybe) Asphalt 7 Heat very well. Even GTA3 runs well too.

FYI, HTC service center in Indonesia sucks. I'm lucky that my DHD never got any hardware problems since I bought it. But I had some terrible experience when I have to send my cousin Wildfire S to HTC service center because of broken WiFi after official FOTA update (the WFS even is just 10 days old, bought it brand new and sealed in box). I don't think I wanna buy HOX or HOS, my next phone after DHD will definitely not HTC, not because their phone is sucks, but their aftersales service is bad, no respect for their customers.
[Desire HD General] g011um:
Update from Telus Canada

Telus started all this panic, and now they've finally released an official statement:

mobilesyrup.com/2012/07/19/official-statement-from-telus-on-the-now-suspended-htc-desire-hd-ics-upgrade/

Basically they are blaming HTC -- "the decision to suspend the software for this device was made by HTC, not TELUS." Mobilesyrup (a Canadian news site for mobile) stated they have not yet heard back from HTC Canada though. All signs from international posters here indicate HTC is rolling out ICS for their users. Will I get it for my phone (I'm with Telus)? Dunno. I guess I wait another month or more to find out.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
You never know :p

Sent from my Desire HD charged with ICS.
[Desire HD General] gtramt1:
i really dont know why are you all worried about Telus...we should just wait till htc releases rom and our dev's to root it...

dont panic and post any new oldnews!!!
[Desire HD General] MohamedYousri:
Christian Schönberg ‏@chrisch1974 No words:) maybe only that it's from DHD http://pic.twitter.com/qpX4DViw
[Desire HD General] akshhae:
HTC Desire HD Android 4.0 ICS Update Delayed, Not Canceled

Its official now we will receive the official ICS update. Only telus branded devices will lack it.

http://www.mobilenapps.com/articles/3174/20120719/htc-desire-hd-android-4-ics-update.htm
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
Soooooooo Nice! Wonder when he will release it! :)
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
Thanks for your info.

I will put dat op.
[Desire HD General] marder:
Putting my tinfoil hat on regarding the current confusion with the ICS upgrade.

Could it be that HTC was testing the waters ?

Maybe the porting effort is more important that HTC had planned, or they have found some issues (performances ?) that are difficult to solve. Before investing valuable development and test resources on a product they do not sell anymore, they would try to check what impact a cancellation would have on their user base.

So they tell one of their product's carrier, Telus that the ICS upgrade is cancelled

If there was a large outcry (as it has been), they could simply deny it and let Telus take the heat.

If there was no reaction, they could then stop working on the upgrade and focus their resources on future products.
[Desire HD General] mikereidis:
IMO simplest, most credible explanation is that Telus doesn't want to give it's customers ICS. It requires effort/time/money and reduces sales of newer devices.
[Desire HD General] dhd1802:
does he work for htc or something :confused:
[Desire HD General] shithead:
No, he's working on a (custom) kernel (for Virtuous roms, I think. Sorry if I'm wrong) with a working camera for roms with HTC Sense 4.0 :)
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
I think they could have safely assumed such an outcome from the reaction to last years Desire Gingerbread update episode. Why would they think we'd be any different? Fair enough if they hadn't already told us it's coming. But they did... So sit tight and hopefully it won't be too long.
[Desire HD General] bobyracer2:
from htcsource.com

http://htcsource.com/2012/07/htc-co...hedule/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
i dont care how important it is but this thread should be closed ,its full of repeats, full of crap ,nobody bothers to read not even the previous post ,they just login and post
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
I hear ya. Kinda makes a mockery of sharing information if people ain't gonna read what was posted earlier. It's like one big race for bragging rights over the best information.
[Desire HD General] Anfetamin:
+1
[Desire HD General] scorpio09:
New status update from Android Central with official response from HTC regarding DHD update. This is definitely not posted before.

http://m.androidcentral.com/uncertainty-surrounds-desire-hd-ics-update-htc-issues-revised-statement

Edit: Before someone accuse me, this is the latest update from HTC as per android central (posted few hours back) .
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
Also folks, chill with the conspiracy theories as to why Telus has cited HTC as the bases for their cancellation. It doesn't matter. I feel for those of you Telus customers who won't be getting the official update. But let's be honest, you were gonna be waiting for the devs to cook something anyway so no loss there.