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[Xperia Play General] LordBattleBeard:
I don't see it happening. It treads too much on the toes of the Vita and was probably Ericsson who pushed for it to happen before. So either Sony is going to see that the future of mobile gaming is integration with smartphones or they're going to continue down the dead end road with the likes of the Vita, in which case the Xperia PLAY 2 won't see the light of day.

The Xperia PLAY didn't do as well as it could have because it was released with 1 year old specs and reviewers are generally unforgiving of that. For an Xperia PLAY 2 to be a success, it would need following:

- Dual/Quad core GPU

- 1GB RAM

- 720p resolution display

- Tegra GPU (not as powerful as others but nvidia is and will continue to buy the market with exclusives)

- 8GB internal memory with expandable memory.

- PSP games - the vita can emulate PSP games, so I don't see this as being unrealistic.

- Better gamepad integration for devs with built in touchscreen to button mapper.

I just don't see it happening any time soon, especially while the Vita is still in play.

I think the future of mobile gaming will be integration with smartphones but sony isn't there yet. When they are, if they can develop the vita into an xperia play shell, they will have the market sewn up (they already have the decent game developers on-board).
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
i'll buy that , for any price
[Xperia Play General] typikal82:
I would buy it in a heartbeat
[Xperia Play General] Ambroos:
At launch the Xperia Play wasn't too bad, the MSM8255 is still a fine performer.

As much as I hope for you guys a newer Xperia Play will arrive, a petition of any sorts will absolutely not help. Creating and releasing a phone requires months, if not one or two years of work. Especially something that would require so much extra development, new partners, extra quality control, content at launch, ... It's very hard to get all the cycles in the development process up to speed since a phone is something completely different from a console.
[Xperia Play General] hexen2006:
I'm in for the Xperia Play 2...

So far My perfect phone will be a Xperia Play with the 32GB Galaxy Nexus Screen and Guts... It's not that difficult Sony.

I will jump to the Galaxy Nexus while I wait...for it
[Xperia Play General] MilkyJoePD:
It's all obvious. The Play was launched with old specs for a phone at the time, never mind a phone that should have been cutting edge to be a gaming phone. It's been said many times, but a phone that is up-to-date spec-wise with a gamepad would sell unbelievably.
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
what??
[Xperia Play General] DrROBschiz:
I am really surprised that there hasn't been any other phones that have aped the Xperia Play idea

WTF

We have all these gaming tablets and add-ons getting attention (Razer, Archos, Moga, Gameclip, Project Shield, etc..)

Does Sony hold the patent for a flip out gamer phone or something????
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
we are with you,

sony is sleeping this days , now the story begin , so many phones will comes out with the same design ! all will be looks like xperia Z !!!!

SONY , WE NEED XPERIA PLAY 2 , TIME TO ENTER /the XPERIA PLAY 2 , YOU CAN"T DEFEAT SAMSUZNG ! USE YOUR capacities , PSP , PS1 , PS2 , PS3 , PSvita expriences ....
[Xperia Play General] sdojoin:
Gameing????:confused:

Regards,

Sdojoin
[Xperia Play General] sewer56lol:
I think a xperia Z kind of phone with a USB keyboard from play would be nice.
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
nice :D :D
[Xperia Play General] Gh61:
I was waiting to release of Xperia Play 2. So long.... :(

Now i bought PS Vita and I don't need more playstation phone.

But if Xperia Play 2 will come with good HW, i will rather have one device than two. :)
[Xperia Play General] bartmw:
I haven't but its 4 months till my contract to expire. If nothing until then... Think Galaxy S3 is pretty good :laugh:
[Xperia Play General] Romaan:
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[Xperia Play General] murat17:
My xperia play died so I had to buy a new phone so I bought Xperia S, if Sony releases xperia play 2 i wil directly sell my Xperia S and buy Xperia Play 2. The idea of a playstation is AMAZING but why don't they do anything with it? Please Sony make Xperia Play 2 I have paid €520 for the Xperia Play and I will do it again for the second. PLAYSTATION PHONE
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
It died you say? Do you still have it? I just repaired and sold my old one and the part for it was only 15 dollars after the shipping.

Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
[Xperia Play General] Thaevil0ne:
Xperia Play 2? Sign me up! :)

However before we get there I think there is a few to be improved on next launch:

- Marketing could have been a LOT better - Not many people even know about the existence of the Xperia Play.

- Use better hardware specs - Will make it easier to sell.

- Exclusive titles - Just so people buy this device for a certain game

- Inlcude nifty things like Game Keyboard so we could have played all games with the hardware controlls at release date.

In my opinion for a gaming phone to be succesfull, it must be ahead of its time to be able to play the upcoming games for several years.

Or even better: Be the new hardware standard so game developers adjust to your (the latest) hardware.

For example: If they would have released the phone with specs better than all other phones on the market that moment then;

- They might have even lured non gamers into buying it just for the specs.

And the community for it could have been a lot bigger.

I do see a small problem here:

Since Sony helped design the gamepad for this device, and them having the PSP as handheld I do not think they would like a smartphone to outrun their handheld.

So infact, I do not expect a gamephone that will run faster than the latest PSP out there on the market meaning they will always run behind in hardware.

PS: I also understand better hardware means more expensive.

But look at the prices of the average phone these days, people pay it anyway as long as it does what they want it to do.

After saying all that, I love the Xperia Play and I will buy the 2nd one as long as it is a hardware upgrade.

Kind regards, Stefan.
[Xperia Play General] murat17:
It died but I still had guarantee, they fixed it but when it came back they had broken the frame so I sent it back a week later i got a messade that I had to go to the shop. They said that it toke too long to repair the phone so I just got my money back €520 :o If it wasn't broken or something I still would use it.

If Xperia Play 2 won't be announced or something in 3 months I just will buy another Xperia Play.
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
suerly , i'll pre-order that

my phone is old now , but i really really can't use ant other phone without game-pad :(
[Xperia Play General] DSoundso:
AW: Sony Xperia Play 2 - Petition

Of course I would like that. With some good marketing it would sell very well. In those few years since PLAY release mobile gaming became even more important for consumers.
[Xperia Play General] Kevinkdc:
I agree. The Xperia Play could've sold a lot better if it was promoted better. I'm one of the few people in my country that has this phone, and all the playstation fans were shocked that this phone existed. I learned about this phone, when I was on amazon looking for a Galaxy and in one review someone said that the xperia play is a better phone for gaming. That was the first time I ever heard of the phone. And the minute I saw it, I was sold.

The Xperia has so much potential, I really hope they release another one with more RAM and a duel core processor. I would buy it in a heartbeat.
[Xperia Play General] abdel12345:
I would also buy an xperia play 2... if I had enough money of course :D. My dad got me this one because he knew I liked play station

ROM: Extreme Ics

Kernel: Lupus JB v8
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
Whether or not I would buy one depends if they screw up the slider design again or not. Too many people with broken flex cables. Having taken it apart and fixed it myself I can tell you it was seriously flawed design.. And once the cable breaks you can't even use the phone because it connects not only the controller but also the screen to the main board.

Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
Nfc, 16gb internal storage, hdmi out, vita analogs, 15mp xmor r camera 1280x720, 8mp front camera 2.0ghz processor, able to play ps1 ps2 and psp games automatically detects controller values so u dont have to use game keyboard on non xperia play games, the awesome speakers of the original, 1sec camera, Xperia arc shape that would be the ultimate Xperia play 2 lol but id buy any xperia play 2 haha with hdmi out:P
[Xperia Play General] chery2k:
Sony is doing away hdmi on their newer phones. They want you to connect your phone to your tv wirelessly.
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
Yeah, they want to encourage people to buy Sony tv sets.

Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
[Xperia Play General] Naceq:
I gladly sign the pettition!

unfortunately there is no hope in the horizon
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
Not that ive seen all there new phones have hdmi
[Xperia Play General] neverwinter:
yes
[Xperia Play General] boomtngz:
yeh count me in
[Xperia Play General] abdel12345:
Yes do you think they'll actually make another one. That would be awesome!

rom: extreme ics betav3

kernel: turbo v3.1
[Xperia Play General] sfex3best:
I am still waiting for the Xperia Play 2.

I was really thinking of getting the latest Xperia Z infact I was given an offer that was really hard to decline.

Someone was selling me their Xperia Z for £300 which is a superb deal

anyway I didn't do it because I still believe the Xperia Play 2 will come sooner or later.

Hehe tbh I think I will stick with my Xperia Play for 3 more years if I have to. Because nothing and I mean nothing beats the gaming controls on our Xperia Play.
[Xperia Play General] xDarcade:
AW: Sony Xperia Play 2 - Petition

And a low prince :D
[Xperia Play General] fcb-1899:
I'm a proud owner of the Xperia Play but we have to accept this guys, its already very very very outdated in every sense - screen, processor, ram, graphics, os and design (fortunately I'm waiting for my N4 to arrive :p )... I'd love to see SONY (not Sony Ericsson, thank god) release a newer version of the Play, with some new killer specs, like a 720p or 1080p display, Snapdragon 600 or Tegra 4, 2gigs of ram and a good amount of internal storage! Just hope that SONY will someday understand the potential of a phone like this! :D
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
I believe there is potential if its handled correctly with all the great hype and marketing it deserves. While Sony Ericcson put more hype and marketing into the PLAY then any of their other phones its a shame Sony themselves didn't back this device more. Especially some real PlayStation gaming support... not saying PSP ... just more psx support in general
[Xperia Play General] marvinknight:
Im with this guy :good:
[Xperia Play General] McXeno:
Idea

Maybe we should make a petition or something for XDA firstly to talk with SONY , because I see sony supports XDA and donates to them so I'm sure they will care about their word. Well it's just an idea :P .
[Xperia Play General] sewer56lol:
+1
[Xperia Play General] DiamondBond:
+ 2
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
If you guys want to we can start a real petition on change.org?

Its a site for starting petitions.
[Xperia Play General] sewer56lol:
Why not? Maybe?
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
let's start that

PLLLLLEEEAAAASSEEE :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

new generation of cell phone have 4-8 core cpu ... we don't need such a powerful phone just for call , we need powerful CPU and GPU just for gaming ...

so , let's wake up the SONY

do you like my signature ? ;)

************* let's use ( or add ) a unique signature to show the world ( specialy Sony ) what we ( GAMERS ) want *********
[Xperia Play General] sewer56lol:
Why not Sony Ericsson.

On the other side they're now called Sony Mobile Communications and are now a merged mobile group with Sony Mobile (Sony Ericsson) doing most of the phones and Sony advertising them.

Sony Mobile (Sony Ericsson) were also responsible for starting the developer love we have from Sony.
[Xperia Play General] skyx26:
Guys, let's be REAL. This is NOT going to happen, no matter how many petitions you make.

The reason?, Sony it's not going to endanger the sales of the Vita...
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
Like the sales are going so well right now...
[Xperia Play General] skyx26:
Perhaps...

See it this way: you have a horse and you spend the last 2 years training that horse and then you compete with that horse. The results are not what you where specting so you start again, train a new horse for another 2 years. In the mean time you still compete with your first horse and still win some and lose some races. Then you finnish training your new horse and it's a winner, so you forget about your first horse and dedicate only in your new horse. There is a catch: all the looses your first horse generate had to be paid by the winnings of your new horse, so even when your new horse it's winning, it's actually it's making you loose money.

That's cannibalism. That's what could happend if Sony makes a Xperia PLAY 2.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I don't understand how people say the xperia play 2 could never play psp and ps2 titles games, that would be extremely easy. Of course it would be hard on a non sony phone because duh its not sony. But Sony made the psp and ps2 so they have everything they need to make an awsome gaming phone with psp and ps2 titles. They got the ps vita too play ps2 remakes in HD. They could do it again. Ps vita also has cross platform gaming so the xperia play 2 could play ps3 games and possibly ps4 games if they wanted it to. If your worried about memory issues sony could just make a cloud service and stream games over wifi if needed and make it available only to Xperia play 2 owners. And if thats still not good enough for you just do the simplest thing possible make the Xperia play 2 beable to play ps vita game cartridges and sell it as "PS Vita Mobile Edition" BAM!!! then they make money off of both at same time. That would also make support for ps vita go up. One last thing someone said in the beginning of the thread that "They can't make it have physical analog sticks cause then it wouldn't slide shut" DUH just make indentions in the game pad for them to fit in.

Does anyone agree?

Is there anything else someone would like to add?

Give a thanks if i this sounds good to you.
[Xperia Play General] abdel12345:
I agree with the indentions for the analogs to fit. I thought the same thing. And making it a psvita mobile edition also sounds like a worth while idea for Sony to try.

Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
[Xperia Play General] xstatik:
please oh god bring back the xperia play with higher specs please
[Xperia Play General] Zoya-1:
Necro-bump, but I agree
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
The push that Sony needs to make an Xperia Play 2 is money.

Please, stop this kind of threads.
[Xperia Play General] Justinchi:
Yep, there would be better luck for a Vita with calling functionality than this. Xperia Play 2 would be great but would put tension between Vita sales and XPlay2 sales. Just not a wise decision, especially with the financial situation Sony is in.
[Xperia Play General] simcheat:
xperia play 2

I will buy xperia play 2 for all in 1 device.

I already had ps vita.
[Xperia Play General] Zerobarat1:
If this petition would gather 2 mil signatures or more I think Sony woulld consider it, but considering the FACT that a Xplay2 petition wouldn't gather more than 20k signatures globally, it will never happen.

Besides Xplay was a disaster at launch because of it's absurd price. At launch, in my country the Xplay was as expensive as a Samsung GS2.
[Xperia Play General] abstractbeats:
I read that the Xperia Play failed because it was too expensive for teenagers and parents to buy. And possibly also that adults were ashamed to be seen using a childish device, although frankly if I were going to sell a device of interest to gamers, I wouldn't entrust that task to mobile phone stores who are much more about bling and lulling people into contracts than logic.

Really there should be multiple slider gamepad phones available, just as there are multiple QWERTY phones for texting, with a range of specs and price points, working to an open standard for how the gamepad works (proprietary touchpad code was pretty doomed). The current Play should indeed remain as a lower end option at a cheap price. And the tech press would need to be mature about that. If you think about it, phone gaming is not all about the high graphics offerings from EA etc. Aren't games like Angry Birds and Sonic CD hits? (I also know as I type this that the Play punches above its weight given its specs on paper.)

Mods - threads about possible / future game phones are legit and relevant to us, please don't shut it down. (I just sense a thread closure coming on here...)
[Xperia Play General] ClioCreslind:
I think the bulk resulting from the gamepad had put off a lot of "mainstream" consumers.

So fine! Let's go along with them. In addition to latest hardware specs, I think the Xperia PLAY 2 should be a thin "Slate" phone (keep reading...), but with one or more tiny electronic port(s) or contacts, preferably USB electronically, UNDERNEATH the battery cover. These ports shall be engineered such that many types of accessories, in the shape of battery covers, can be snapped-on & connected to the phone:

- Standard 8~14Mp Camera & flash (ie. Camera sensor, not just lens, is on the cover part, not on the phone's motherboard)

- Extra high Res./high speed Camera & flash

- slideout Gamepad

- slideout Keyboard

- Extended Battery

- Rear touchpad

- Pico Projectors

- NFC module

- High Quality microphone/speakers

- extra USB host ports

- other things I can't think of...

- any combination of above

Also throw in another design quirk - For the slideout gamepad battery cover accessory, to allow extra few mm height for the thumb stick "mushrooms" while still somewhat maintaining thin-ness, the battery cover accessory is actually in a perfect physical location to re-locate the battery away from the original battery bay of the slate phone, into a bay provided by the battery cover accessory itself.

The now emptied battery bay is very roomy. With slight adjustments to the plastic around the original battery bay to give way, it becomes possible to use the emptied battery bay to house the extra few mm required by the "mushrooms", may even have room left for the rails of the sliding mechanism!

With this Modular design, I think Sony can stop releasing so many similar phones like they did this year, and focus on 3-6 base models plus 5 battery cover accessories each.

The "standard" configuration will be a thin slate with a standard battery in the battery bay and the battery cover with the Standard 8~14Mp Camera. This will help sales of the device, being able to market it as just another high-spec slim & good looking smartphone. But that will also mean more active devices in circulation, which of course will help persuade developers to make games for it!

Also the modular design will attract people wanting different things - Some may want extra large CMOS sensor for night shots; other may like to have physical keyboard for typing; others still want to have high quality microphone for recording sounds; etc. And of course for us, we want gaming with physical controls!

PS. Would appreciate if some of you could help me get my first 10 "thanks".
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
the all in one phone with a keyboard and a gamepad?

I can see it being quite flimsy - either one or the other. and the XPlay is the perfect size IMO, any bigger and it would feel as the screen would fall off if you play a game.
[Xperia Play General] MilkyJoePD:
Although it still isn't thin, hold the Play with and without the battery cover. Without it it somehow feels about normal. OK, you can get phones a lot thinner, but they don't feel right. The cover isn't that thick but makes it feel so much different.

I'm not entirely sure of the point of this post, but here it is anyway.
[Xperia Play General] koolkryce:
I love my xperia play

I'm just posting for petition acknowledgement. I love my Xperia Play and get a lot of compliments when playing a game in long lines at various places. I put my phone the iPhone and any Droid device. A Xperia Play 2 with specifications that could rival other phones could make it number one for non-gamers.
[Xperia Play General] FRKD:
Xperia play 2 will be perfect in 2013 with all the quad core phones.... I'd definitely upgrade :D
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
crossing fingers ...
[Xperia Play General] thatsupnow:
Keep dreaming cause that's all it'll ever be!! This device in sony's eyes is dead as disco
[Xperia Play General] damonous:
Personally, I'd be game for an Xperia Play 2 that just had a few small improvements (unlike the extreme have-it-all wish-lists previously posted):

1) At least 1gb internal memory

(Sony always plays cheap on memory, stunting their devices. See: PS3, Xperia X2, etc)

2) 3D Autostereoscopic screen

(I have LG P920/925. It's awesome, and the 3D games are cool, too...save for having to use an infernal touchscreen!)

3) Slightly thinner form-factor

(It can remain rounded, but it has just a few millimeters too much heft that gives it that 'toy' look)

4) 4.3" screen

(The play is fine...until I put my LG next to it, then the Play's screen looks disappointing)

5) Brighter, more colorful screen

(The play is fine...until I put my LG next to it, then the Play's screen looks disappointing)

To me, Sony wouldn't necessarily have to go spec-crazy and up the CPU to quad-core. Dual-core 1.5 would be nice. But, at the end of the day, the above changes are more-important, and would serve not to fracture the existing "Play" market. Instead, it would bring in supporters of 3D, and probably be able to sit in a budget-range (which would also expand the market). Plus, a slight reduction in size, and/or obscuring of the triggers might make it appeal more to the non-Gamer crowd. When the controls are closed, the only thing that screams "it's a game system" are the prominent, shiny triggers.

Those of us with the Play mostly use it for EMUs, and know that the Adreno more than makes up for raw CPU performance.
[Xperia Play General] TheCraig:
I would buy it if it had:

Dual core/Quad Core (Snapdragon S4 or Tegra 3)

Better screen, possibly reality display, or Whitemagic from Xperia P

Slimmer form factor

Android 4.1

1GB Ram
[Xperia Play General] mykamran:
This must be better than 2 run ps2 games.
[Xperia Play General] paddybud:
i would surely buy xperia play 2,

no matter what specs it carries.

given that my lovely XPERIA PLAY has brought me so much fun ever since i had it.
[Xperia Play General] sdojoin:
It'll be nice if it can really run ps2 games. Coz ps2 games are much alike 3D games that coming up these days. We only need an updated hardware and software, hence X-Play 2. So until they comes up with that imma stay with Play n the hell with other phones that DOSEN'T hav a physical button.:p Till now every1 is envious with me sliding my gamepad though they holding an S3.:cool: Hahahaha...:D
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
I love my Xperia PLAY and when my contract ends with Verizon I plan on getting a AT&T version and unlocking it and then I can mess with all the ROMs available here rather then just a few......

I serioulsy doubt any Xperia PLAY 2 is in the works...... Our phone failed on an almost N-Gage level. And yes I even own an N-Gage, mostly for the fun Elder Scrolls: ShadowKey game. But anyways if a Xperia PLAY 2 were to see daylight I would snag it..... I hate touchscreen gaming hate it...
[Xperia Play General] gillette762:
luv Xplay!

I will buy Xplay 2, no matter what it costs;)

What I could wish in it is:

*Psp games

*Ps2 games

*3D menu

*support for Dreamcast and Gamecube emu (is it possible?!)