yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] trackattaker:
At this time i couldn't care less about the official update from HTC. The Sense 4 Virtuous ROM will kick ass and hopefully will be released very soon (at least for testing and bug-tracking - everybody will be more than happy to help).

HTC will hear about this (if they haven't already) and will realize what a big mistake they did. Then, the official update will probably be released but it's going to be too late to bring back the loyal fans they lost.
[Desire HD General] Clayloo:
It may be sensation, but the rom covers our dhd for sure.
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
icant understand what te hell is going on !!

:(:(
[Desire HD General] getaceres:
For me it looks like a bot.
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
i added one pic again , this pics are for 5 min ago .

what the hell ?:confused:
[Desire HD General] gtramt1:
Htc is waiting for xda dev's to release their working 3 kernel...nothing else to say
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
I dont think that these chat-support-guys are really up2date informed about what is going on. for what is really a shame, because they should have become such infos to be prepared - BEFORE they are posted on the official blog :(
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
i think htc is starting to make a u turn and change their mind and may be give us ics
[Desire HD General] sergiu_07_07:
+1 :))
[Desire HD General] Clayloo:
Good point:D
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
I'm an X Desire HD owner and have my One X but seriously this news is getting to me, really disappointed by HTC after i used to be so proud of their update commitment

no matter how i think of it there only two possible reasons for the cancellation! and non of them is about the Desire HD specs

Reason 1: Just like our kernel devs are struggling with camera drivers, maybe HTC's OEM couldn't provide ICS drivers that matches the camera abilities of the Sense 3.0

Reason 2: The Desire HD crossed their 18 months commitments and its purely a commercial decision

Whatever it is, the decisions will backfire, the desire HD is still their most sold android device (their own words from HTC.com) and its still being sold new

seriously perplexing, i still love HTC so for their sake I hope they come clean and at the very least do what they did for the classic Desire GB update
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
Htc comunication manager should be sacked
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
we wil get ICS very soon from Virtuous Team.

They said "Infinity: Desire HD, Desire S, Desire Z, My Touch 4G Slide, Incredible S, Incredible 2, Inspire 4G".
[Desire HD General] dijonemon:
Incredibly disappointed that they have pulled the update. Not that I want Sense - just working camera drivers on ICS.

Looks like I'll be getting a Nexus for my next device.
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Relax, chrish1974 from Virtous Team said that this ROM will come very soon. Perhaps this week.
[Desire HD General] sergiu_07_07:
Just got this mail after asking about the update:

"Thank you for contacting HTC.

With regards to your inquiry, “Following the various rumors posted to tech news sources and social networks over the past days about a potential cancellation of the ICS update for Desire S and Desire HD, we can now confirm that this is not the case. We remain committed to providing customers with the latest software updates when possible. As such, we are pleased to confirm we are still on schedule to deliver an Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for both the HTC Desire HD and Desire S.”

So WTF is this?....is it canceled or not
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
Yeah...:D

I am really happy about this.

I will buy a beer for them :D

I guess we dont need htc update anymore...:p
[Desire HD General] dijonemon:
My experience of Virtuous team releases on the DHD are that they've been half hearted and they move on to a different release after a couple of weeks.

AFAIK no-one has confirmed 720p recording works on the DHD, just the device in the youtube video and as I said above - I don't want Sense (though I can hide it behind another launcher, I guess?)
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
HTC IS MAKING A U TURN LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPEN NEXT
[Desire HD General] RRSoftware:
http://blog.htc.com/ seems to be offline ^^
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
It's working perfect from my end
[Desire HD General] lms24:
Just chatted with HTC costumer service in Austria/Germany. Here's the translated version:

Me: I read from blog.htc.com that the DHD ICS Update is cancelled, can you confirm that?

HTC: The DHD Is going to get the ICS Update.

Me: But why does blog.htc.com say that the Update is cancelled?

HTC: This blog is not the officiall blog from HTC.

Me: Okay, Can you tell me when the Update is gonna be released?

HTC: July/August.

Me: Thanks. So we get Android 4.0 with Sense 3.6, 4.0 or 3.0?

HTC: Android 4.0 with Sense 3.6

Me: Okay thank you.

So either blog.htc.com really wrote bull**** or the people at the costumer service have no clue what they're talking about...

I don't trust them anymore..
[Desire HD General] Stounba5:
Sense 4.6 o_0 ? You mean 3.6, right ?
[Desire HD General] lms24:
Yeah, sorry, it was a typo.
[Desire HD General] -Happy Feet-:
i think this is an official Blog from HTC??? :confused:

it looks like the one person don´t know what the other person do.....
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
SEE THIS MORON TELLING THIS TO ME !!

In answer to your query, Some aspects of Android 4.0 & HTC Sense require dedicated hardware, which is not available on all devices.

We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.0. These devices include the HTC Desire HD, HTC ChaCha, HTC Salsa, HTC Wildfire S, HTC Explorer, and others.

Upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.0 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support as needed.

DESIRE HD WHIT 512 OR LESS ROM :eek::eek::eek:

:mad:
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
blog.htc.com is NOT official? so what is it then? either the support staff is not informed in time, and simply does not know about the cancelation, or the "Blog" has some false Information.. Booth situations are really a proof of inadequacy for HTC...
[Desire HD General] RRSoftware:
I think it is official because the official support from htc.com send me this answer:
[Desire HD General] bakuj:
HTC Poland also confirmed by email that no update for Desire HD will be available.
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
I choose to believe the blog ,so for me as things stand ,no ics for us
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
i also believe the blog is official, but that means you can screw the support staff. they are not informed up to date.
[Desire HD General] -Happy Feet-:
HTC Germany would

not

comment this Blogentry
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
This is way too small bro, cant read a single line.
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
sehr klein attachment , can you make it big?
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
guys i hope you dont get mad for me and this is for letting you know ,:eek:
[Desire HD General] Murtagh92:
I still have an hope... In the official site there isn't DHD in the list of the phone without update...
[Desire HD General] rfkw:
even samsung is starting work on 4.1 =.= :(:(

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/07/20...oon-samsung-test-android-4-1-for-galaxy-s-ii/
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
Wassup at HTC? Did the Webmaster of the Blog had a funny Day or do the support Staff not get important Information? Blog says NO ICS, Chat and EMail Support mostly says "Cancelation not confirmed" :)
[Desire HD General] chiel54:
Mark Moons, CEO HTC Benelux confirms that DHD will not get ICS on Twitter.

In Dutch, he states: I regret that after Froyo, DHD will not get ICS. Combination of factors, a.o. user xperience and timeline/ planning
[Desire HD General] Penecho:
That is so sad, i really was looking forward to ICS :(
[Desire HD General] chiel54:
Mark Moons suggests he could work on special arrangement to buy One x for dhd users in holland as compensation...
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
I want to see a post here next time I check this thread of someone who's like "hi kernel has leaked download here"

: (
[Desire HD General] tsmt971@yahoo:
I am still waiting for some leak leak, but it seems like I have to wait for so long. July is round now :(
[Desire HD General] bur2000:
That's very good to hear!

I got so used to frequent updates when I was using ARHD. And now since I'm using Virtuous Affinity it's been ages since I've flashed anything.

So it seems like finally there'll be some development for the DHD again.

And while I'm at it, any ROMs for DHD that are worth to check out currently? Affinity's running great, but as I said, I miss flashing... :D
[Desire HD General] wtr_dhd:
Definitely LC's ICS 8.0 with android 4.0.4

Running IceColdSandwich 8.0 (final) for some weeks already, loving it very much, very stable and fast. Didn't have 1 random reboot since I flashed this rom.. so stability is good.. For me everything works (camera AND videocamera in 480p with stock camera apk)! Except MMS.

I do not miss Sense at all.. and the longer the more I'm getting fond of android 4.0.
[Desire HD General] mrbubba999:
I think by the time it does finally get released, a lot of people will have moved on, but I guess that's what the phone makers want as its more revenue for them.
[Desire HD General] sinir696:
When We get Android lime pie 4.2?
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Your joking right
[Desire HD General] bur2000:
I'm not so sure I really want to do without Sense. But the ROM looks very fine, so I'll give it a try, thanks.

Exactly. I think most people don't need a faster CPU or GPU for their phone. A bigger screen is also not desireable for lots of people. So how to make them buy a new model? By not releasing new Android versions for their model. Or releasing it only after a long time.

That way they can say "see, we do care for older models" and at the same time still get people to buy new phones.
[Desire HD General] danielgek:
this waiting is killing me LOL
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Me too :'(
[Desire HD General] madcow_mda:
me too!

can't wait to get a fully working ICS rom! Hope it comes soon. Any word on the other updates yet? such as the HTC Desire S?
[Desire HD General] :
Search that info at the Desire S forums
[Desire HD General] rzgomba:
Google announcing smores 6.0 we should be getting it 2015.
[Desire HD General] nothing94:
any news about update?
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Android 4 will be released on 9th of July according to this webpage:

http://www.tre.se/Privat/Kundservice/Mobilguider/Android-40-uppdateringar/
[Desire HD General] P00t:
So close! In like a week and half.

Why is it That our Phone cant get sense 4?? Our hardware cant handle sense 4?

How are u sure if the website is providing the correct information?

Its not From the htc website.

Sent from my Inspire 4G
[Desire HD General] nicoboum:
It's been stated that Desire HD will only get Sense 3.5, because of hardware yes. It could have had Sense 4 light, but they went with 3.5 (not a big deal).

I'm surprised there's still no leak, a week and a half from the presumed upgrade date... I think we will wait a little longer ;)
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
We will get Sense 3.6 :)
[Desire HD General] nicoboum:
Thanks :D

That's what I meant :)
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
I'm not sure that the information on that webpage is correct but who knows?
[Desire HD General] -Happy Feet-:
i have changed the image,
[Desire HD General] el damo:
The ics update is out there, what we know? Telus was testing it, the have a group of people for testing it, beta testers, so, the kernel that we are looking for is in a pc in Canada. Well, we have to get into it, it will not be the first time that this happend, we only need a clue to know where start looking.
[Desire HD General] Penecho:
Hmm what about the rest of the world? they should offer some kind of program for all of us...

@ -Happy Feet-: at least they still say they will roll out ICS, in your chat picture...
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
Telling the same **** the other Support-Staff told... Think they are not informed yet.

BTW: http://blog.htc.com/ is down for me while www.htc.com still works... ?!?! DDoS of angry DHD users :)
[Desire HD General] Mikenif:
That would be awesome :victory:
[Desire HD General] Kimbolicious:
Well I guess we won't get the update as stated on their blog: http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/

:mad: :thumbdown:

So time to root the phone... :cool:
[Desire HD General] sergiu_07_07:
I insisted with emails and the support team told me that we will get ICS, only not with sense 3.6 .

"We cannot confirm now what version of sens will have, but the update we waiting to be rolled out in the next weeks."

Not sure if this is true...but there is still hope.
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
That would mean owning a HTC again. And hell hasn't frozen over yet.
[Desire HD General] InsaneCheese:
I don't know, I'd own a free HTC. But I wouldn't be parting with any of my money for one...
[Desire HD General] pepshi:
new news in my country is one news portal

http://www.infoglobi.com/index.php/...-desire-hd-dhe-desire-s#.UA0xjGLMAFQ.facebook

and is in albanian language he sad ICS 4.0 will come on end of august.

Htc is cantacted from PCmagazine and officially android will come on end of august

use gogle to translate albanian - english

sorry for my english
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
Ive contacted htc, and they said that they still wait for official confirmation whether DHD will receive or wont receive ics
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
Can people post links or screenshots to all the "conversations" they are having with HTC?

Otherwise it didn't happen.
[Desire HD General] Karish1989:
Some people are still hoping :o

It's official we ain't getting ics, mark moons said that on twitter...
[Desire HD General] sergiu_07_07:
Here you go m8
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
this is to small man !!
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
The replys from HTC are really robotic
[Desire HD General] mikereidis:
If official HTC DHD ICS isn't happening, my suspicion is that they were mostly testing with ROMs for OneV or similar devices.

They may have had the same kernel issues.

Their devs may have started work on it (at least analysis), and it may not be in any usable form.
[Desire HD General] sergiu_07_07:
Changed...
[Desire HD General] CaptainPedge:
Just spoken to the chat support chump on HTC:

and then sent them the following email:

I'll let you know of any response I get
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
It's just frustrating dealing withem
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
I just checked, HTC's official Twitter account is still alive and (still) full of One X promotions :confused:
[Desire HD General] 5Lire:
I think that social channels of HTC (twitter, facebook and similar) apparently are dead because They are waiting that the customers will be quiet. After HTC will be active..if HTC writes on his social channels, than they are forced to answer for complaints of customers...they are waiting for calming the water (i don't know if you understand the expression "calm the water", but it's a kind to say for italian language :) ).

HTC is villain behavior! :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] sinir696:
It'better say calm down...

however if you talk with live assistance in the site they say the upgrade gas not been delete... Some one say with sense 3.6 someone with 3.0... I think inside HTC there are many internal problems
[Desire HD General] niff74:
I also emailed HTC and got a reply that as far as he knows, HTC did not drop the update for DHD, and the cancellation only applies to Telus.

I replied with the link to the HTC blog, and since then - silence... :rolleyes:

Personally, I think HTC should be grateful its customers are keeping their own tech support in the loop...
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
IN IRANIAIN LANGUAGE TOOO:laugh:calm the water
[Desire HD General] 5Lire:
i think that HTC will have many problem after this choice, They have to respect the promises ... the problem is that they don't know what saying to customer...
[Desire HD General] 5Lire:
ok, it's official!

23/07/2012 15.18 (italian hour)

I chatted with HTC and they confirmed.

No ICS for Desire HD.

screenshot in italian language attached

I can try to translate for you, if you don't understand.
[Desire HD General] EnricoTV:
:crying:

Well... we'll wait for Virtuous Team Rom! Is there any release date? :confused:
[Desire HD General] AnumEndzeit:
What I love is the fact that multiple people from HTC's company (be it UK, America, Italy etc) and the people working on building ICS for our phone, have either denied that Desire HD has been canceled or they said the release is still scheduled and you guys call bull****.

But the moment

one

person says that it is canceled, its undeniable proof? I know some of you say "we cant trust HTC" but should you trust a person, on an online reception help chat over multiple tech people working on the build itself?

Long story short, i need to see more people, actually building ICS for our phone confirming the cancellation instead of one person on an online chat who isnt even building ICS for our phone.
[Desire HD General] brusarp:
Infinity... it's coming.... :highfive:

Twitter by @chrisch1974

Do you think it's time to stop teasing with Infinity? h t t p ://twitter.com/chrisch1974/statuses/227409139758940162
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
I hope the Virtuous Team had already prepared to upload the ROM files to high-capacity server or several mirrors, because I'm sure that this release will attract a lot of "hungry" DHD owners from all over the world! :good:
[Desire HD General] Murtagh92:
No ICS

I've contatted Italian HTC, they had the news for the annulment of the update today. For this reason other operators said that was not official. Sorry for my english. There's the chat in the attachment, it's in italian.
[Desire HD General] brusarp:
Yeah, I also believe the same thing...
[Desire HD General] Insecret:
I read on official roumanian htc facebook page, that they give up to relase official ics rom :(( it is true ?
[Desire HD General] Karish1989:
No ;)
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
Official Statement on HTC DACH (German Speaking Areas) Facebook-Site:

NO ICS!

Exact same Statement like the Blog, just translated!
[Desire HD General] whiperhack:
HTC Romania confirms that for the moment HTC is reconsidering the update for Desire HD (Ace) and will not send it (3 min ago on online chat).
[Desire HD General] samotronta05:
HTC Germany confirmed it on their Facebook page: No ICS for the DHD.

Original statement:

Translation in red
[Desire HD General] :
How the **** can desire S handle ICS but DHD can't ?
[Desire HD General] xUniverse:
its younger

HTC only want that we buy there new phones
[Desire HD General] nodiaque:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/22/3176223/htc-confirms-desire-hd-no-android-4-update

Big bull****. This proove again how much carrier have the power and not the phone maker...
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
And what they get is buying NO phone instead of NEW phone... :)
[Desire HD General] gitanshu:
I would say it can handle ics but not sense 3.6 alongwith.
[Desire HD General] :
The point is that desire s is the same phone except for screen size !
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
So your sayin all the chips are the same? People seem to think that just because the specs you see match alot of times that the device is almost the same. But what they dont look at are the specs that are harder to find. Like what wifi chip, BT chip ext are in the device. If people would look closer they would see that they are alot more diff then you think. IF they were the same phone then the kernel would be cross compatible with no mods at all. Is it? Nope, so what does that tell you?

People realy need to stop complaining about updates that they didnt get. That is not what we care about here. And before you say it we dont care about roms either. We DO care about Development and that has a large covering.
[Desire HD General] CW365:
Does anyone else think this might just be because they can't be bothered to spend time to exclude the default functionality of the front facing camera (face unlock). Are there any phones with ICS/getting ICS that don't have a front facing camera?
[Desire HD General] Insecret:
honestly boys / girls I'm sorry that i start to give you this bad news .... Right now I'm decided to buy iPhone 5 when will be relased ... This is because the android is growing faster the new version JellyBean is out and with DHD nothing about ics ... no way. I hope to finaly came out the ics version and update the soft .... this is the only thing wich will keep in my poket an HTC.
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
You're right. I've just realized that all phones that has been updated (or still planned to) to ICS all have front-facing camera and the fact that DHD have no front cam maybe is one of the reasons for cancellation.
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
We are all disappointed and thinking about buying another phone. But you just sold your soul dude .
[Desire HD General] Nadirchine:
Your argument is invalid ... first, HTC said that DHD will get ICS and they know that DHD can accept ICS 4.0 , else they did take DHD upgrade decision, ...second, if the system related with the front camera, then Virtuous team can nt fix the camera .... fortunately, Virtuous Team fixed the camera ... so there is an commercial problem with HTC ... they only wanna to sell new products.
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
Nailed it
[Desire HD General] nexy33:
thankfully I switched to Samsung when my upgrade was due last time I'll buy htc
[Desire HD General] sgroimax:
I'm really interested with your arguments, but I can't understand a huge thing.... Well guys, which is the real metter for u? ICS is just resident into a lot of Roms here on xda.

At the moment, roms like Icecoldsanwich, XGS, a other ones, are working perfectly except native htc radio fm (but with spirit fm is the same thing and works better) and camera with viedorecorder that is not fully working. But the reality is that both camera and camcorder are pretty usable and in a few weeks there will be a developers who will fix them forever. It's only a time relationship.

In any case, Htc is a huge industry and we cannot read inside their business. I'm rather happy to know that there is a great team of developers, here on xda, who can destroy the laws of phisycs with their roms..bye guys and stay up....the world smile us:o
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
i would be happy if someone would translate it, i used google translate, and they mentioned that if petition will get amount of people they could change their minds:
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
Chat Transcript

please wait some time to find an assistant ...

You are currently in a queue for waiting.

You are in relationship with Sara.

Sara: Hello Simonas How can I help you?

Simonas Snarskas: Hello,

Can you give any information if Desire HD ICS update is canceled?

Sara: Is this is the first time you contact us?

Simonas Snarskas: yes

Sara: the desire HD will not receive a day msie ICS

Simonas Snarskas: if you are 100% sure it will not update?

Sara: We have received information aurjoud'hui

Simonas Snarskas: this is very bad. Is there a way to send this link to people htc?

Simonas Snarskas: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-us-ics/

Sara: You can target a very high number of signatures, and e end of this week rexemple, informing me that I had my back if hierarchy

Simonas Snarskas: thank you for the help

Sara: at your service

Sara: Do you have other questions at this time?

Simonas Snarskas: monon, thank you

Simonas Snarskas: * not

Sara: Thank you for contacting us, hope you have a nice day.