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[Xperia Play General] TwilightLoz:
Looks like why actually wont be getting ICS. SlimShaddy (moderator) says so over here. This is fresh news, answered todays (25/5/12):

http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/37918
[Xperia Play General] c903jerk:
I'm getting a new Play soon and I hope there is ICS.
[Xperia Play General] 28spawn:
There is no speculation.

No ICS for Xperia Play.

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...ream-sandwich-rollout-for-xperia-smartphones/

Game over for now.
[Xperia Play General] IE-coRe:
F*ck you sony!! Looks like know it is prooved...
[Xperia Play General] jim1h:
It doesn't surprise me, they probably have their own play type phone in the works, something they have complete control over.
[Xperia Play General] hatcyl:
That's uncalled for.

They did their best, it didn't work out, and they let us know what happened.

They handled it very well, and for those of us who really want it we can work of the beta / use roms created by the devs at XDA.
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
In regards to Xperia PLAY, after extensive in house testing with our developer teams and working with our partners, we have concluded that a consistent and stable experience, particularly with gaming, cannot be guaranteed for this smartphone on Ice Cream Sandwich – therefore, we will not make the Android 4.0 upgrade available for Xperia PLAY.

Oh.My.God. O__o

This has been a big punch to all Xperia Play users. Boom! Right in our faces!

Good job Sony! :mad:
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
I have to agree here, while it sucks its not happening (and honestly it was never happening for R800x owners anyway), they need to put out a product that works. With 2.3.4 it works, and works fine (except on the R800x again).

If they put this out and it didn't work, you'd have tons of people jumping down their throat because their games that they paid for don't work anymore. Then they would have to put more dev time into fixing them, and also have the game publishers do that, and for what? A phone thats almost 2 years old and is on the verge of obscurity?

Sony isn't doing so well right now, I'd rather them put their efforts into an Xperia PLAY 2, than waste their time getting a new OS that we don't even need to work right.
[Xperia Play General] TheCraig:
tbh I'm pretty pissed off about it but whatever my next device will be the HTC One X or the Galaxy S3, they announced it months ago but days before the official release they come out with this, I've got the play for a few more months then I intend to switch, This is no grudge against sony, I see their point, But we're stuck on the current firmware (.69) and in my honest opinion Sony abandoned us as they have no plans to release a GB update neither, Sorry but this may sound rude or whatever but I'm on Holiday and I don't have much time to write this up before we're off Scuba Diving in Costa Teguise, Lanzarote.

I may even buy the next Galaxy.
[Xperia Play General] ~iSamur@i:
thank you gameloft
[Xperia Play General] jim1h:
Just don't buy Sony phones, they will soon get the message, customer service for all Sony products is terrible anyway.
[Xperia Play General] Android Is ReadyTo Play.:
İm gonna buy a new phone.
[Xperia Play General] ~iSamur@i:
the problem is that sony is right, the games of gameloft, rockstar and ea sucks on ICS, so they had 2 choice:

1)force them to update their games (nearly impossible)

2)don't update on ICS because on GB this games works good

so the true problem is that this "software house", not sony (or almost in my opinion)
[Xperia Play General] jim1h:
I'm gonna do the same at the end of my contract but this phone still does everything I need so well.
[Xperia Play General] IE-coRe:
No! Gameing works allmost fine on ICS Beta only GTA3 does not work they could ask Rockstar to fix it. Sony was definetly lazy.. Also they could give us what they actually have like a newer ICS beta if they dont want to make it official.

Fact is the Xperia Play runs fine with ICS and it would give us so many possibilitys (n64oid/Joystick center). It makes touchpad input also better so maybe more games would be optimized. Acceptable performence is definetly possible aswell, look at htc one v wich runs very smooth due the new adreno drivers games can be smoother than on GB.

Developers are there but they come and they go, i dont think we will ever have fully working AOSP based rom or a fully smooth beta based rom... time flys and no one buys the play anymore, devs are looking forward to get high end devices...
[Xperia Play General] CTU_Loscombe:
To all the people jumping on the "f*** you Sony!" bandwagon

There is no point, at all, in getting angry about this. They rolled out the beta as a way for the community to test and give feedback on what works and what doesnt. It did what a beta is designed to do. Unfortunately for Sony, the gamepad on the Play came back and kicked them right where it hurts. Id rather have a gaming device that works than one that doesnt.

To put it simply: All PS3/Xbox/PC users. Imagine if Sony or Microsoft rolled out a new OS that looked nice BUT......Controllers/Keyboard and Mouse support didnt work. Sure, you have a nice looking OS but the chief reason for buying the machine is gone.

People in here need to calm the hell down. Its not, I repeat, NOT...Sonys fault
[Xperia Play General] PeteBest:
Ah well, I'm quite happy with AOKP for now anyway.

This might actually be a good chance for devs to get needed source code from Sony. If Sony aren't planning on doing it themselves, they might be willing to release everything they've got and let the community have a go at it :D
[Xperia Play General] TheCraig:
Agreed, They could at least give us the latest build they have.
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
Although I am disappointed to hear that there will be no ICS release, I do understand their reasons. Especially as VZ was never going to release it anyway.

At this point I would much rather see Sony work hard on a Xperia PLAY 2. My contract ends in 6 months and I do not want to replace my phone unless it has a game pad as I really dislike touch screen gaming. So again, I would rather at this point Sony works on a replacement or this phone.

Am I saddend, yes. But I would like to thank Sony and Sony Ericcson for their hard work in attempting to make ICS work with our phone. They have been extremely good to use users firmware update wise compared to other companies. So again. THANK YOU SONY for your efforts and for being honest with the Xperia PLAY community. I do hope that there is a Xperia PLAY 2 in the works....
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Children, you've got an officially released beta build. Have you ever seen that from Samsung, who refuse to port what the community has already ported?

However, this is the last nail on another, more important coffin. Sony has given up on this phone. While Gingerbread was quite nice (bar the terrible standard web browser) in the gaming aspect, this means that there will be no PS Suite either: do you think that if Sony is not updating the phone because the big names won't update their games, they'd devote resources to release the suite in both GB and ICS? That's the real issue at hand, not so much the lack of an ICS upgrade. And what is actually annoying is that, while the ICS ROM has a public beta that people can build things from, the PS Suite was a selling point of the phone and we've been told that it'd be out "real soon now".

Swypesation
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
News flash, no one bought the Play to begin with. The phone was basically a flop, and although Sony mismanagement didn't help, there were more problems with ICS and games than just GTA III. As I mentioned above, if they released it broken tons of unaware people would update their phones, break half their games, and hate Sony immediately. They don't need any more bad will.

Aside from the fact the phone "just works" as is. Yes maybe not for the hacker community like us, but they need the main user experience to work, they can't cater to people like us.

Exactly! Give this man a cigar!
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
So true. This is the question we have to make to Sony, after the bad news about ICS, will the Xperia Play get the Playstation Suite???
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
AMEN. Compared to other manufacturers Sony has been very very good to the community. And again is it a disappointment, yes, but would I rather have ICS and no gaming.... NO. This is a gaming phone and without that there goes the main reason for this phone. As I have said I appreciate all the work that Sony has done with releasing the beta and helping unlock bootloaders and giving Xperia phones to CyanogeMod (well SE) but you get the point. We do have the beta to pick over and mod and be happy we at least have that. So..... Sony Thank you for being honest, upfront and not dragging this out for days on end. I would love to see a PLAY 2, but again I dont think that will happen, would I love to be surprised, yup. So for now... everyone calm down, chill, be happy with what you have and enjoy this phone until you cant enjoiy it any more. Thats all I am going to say about it.
[Xperia Play General] jim1h:
Oops don't know how the double post happened!!

I forgot about the ps suite, to be honest, thinking about it the phone is 14 months old, a lot of people have paid £500 for it or tied into a 2 year contract.. Why shouldn't they expect a bloody update.. Legally if someone has bought this phone expecting ps suite because this was advertised at the time they could expect compensation!
[Xperia Play General] gerickjohn:
D=

How unfortunate to Xperia Play owners, I head on here as soon as I read the post on Sony's blog, I guess Sony E. had it coming to them cheaping out on the components. :(

blogs(dot)sonymobile(dot)com/products/2012/05/25/update-on-ice-cream-sandwich-rollout-for-xperia-smartphones/ [Cant post links yet. XD]

Well.. excited for my Arc though. :D
[Xperia Play General] Geeve:
I actually thought it was OP's joke/assumption the first time I read the thread (sorry OP :D).

Well, I'm not sad/mad, not at all. Yes, it was an extremely big dissapointment for everyone and Sony might lose a lot of angry customers, but maybe they know better.

The thing I don't understand tho is why would a game not work on XPlay ICS and would work on other ICS device? Is there some kind of conspiracy?

Meh, I'm sure there will be an update for XPlay in the near future (mostly because of the new XPlay launch app I saw on ICS beta, which makes it look more like PSP's OS).
[Xperia Play General] The_Newtype:
I'm a little disappointed, but there aren't enough new "features" in ICS to make me feel like I'm missing out on anything by not receiving the update. Even after rooting and removing some of the bloat, the phone still has it's occasional hiccups, though is rock-solid in terms of reliability.

I wouldn't mind getting one more firmware update (or perhaps a free Playstation game?!), but I'm pretty satisfied with my Play.

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Never buy a device for what it could or will do; always buy for what it can do for you right now
[Xperia Play General] bigas:
In some way, this is a good news. I hope the ones who care to develop GingerBread stuff for Xperia Play (ie CyanogenMod7) focus on finish the wonderful job already started. And I’m not asking anything else, BUT, kernel + battery improvements AND 720p recording would really push the hardware to its limits.
[Xperia Play General] puelocesar:
Stop apologizing for Sony mistakes

My next phone will be an iPhone. Definitely. Games are better, apps are better looking, and Apple will support your phone with updates for YEARS.

The first iPhone stopped updates only on 3.1 I think, so it supported 3 MAJOR versions, while Android phones barely can handle one.

Stop apologizing Sony behavior, you are being just Sony puppets. The thing is, Sony *PROMISED* ICS, and a lot of people, including me, bought the Play because of it. And now they came and say, sorry, but Android game developers don't want to fix their games on the phone, so no ICS for you guys.

And about the performance, yes, you can have good performance on Xperia Play with ICS, but due limited RAM, you have to remove all Sony bloatware, something they apparently doesn't want to give up.
[Xperia Play General] Geeve:
Also, wouldn't it been better if Sony made the ICS update available along with a big red mark in front of it, saying something like:
[Xperia Play General] IE-coRe:
+1 best solution!!
[Xperia Play General] EagleDelta1:
I don't understand why people are up in arms - The blog specifically stated that the decision was made based on feedback from both the internal dev team AND community Developers. It's no secret that there are bug problems galore in ICS for Xperia Play, not to mention the hardware specs don't quite match up to the minimum that Google requires for 4.0

Someone else already said this, but I'll repeat it: NEVER buy a phone (or ANY computing device) for what it COULD do, always on what it can do now. Future features in the tech world are always subject to change in their development lifetime.

I'd also like to note that it's not Sony's job to get 3rd party apps working on ICS for their device, it's those companies' responsibility
[Xperia Play General] coldfusion182:
Sad sad news...

I was excited with ICS because of the way it manages internal storage, it just assumes it has one storage (and it being the sum of internal memory + SD card memory) so it would circumvent the ridiculous amount of internal memory that the xperia play has to install apps (if this is not true I would like someone to tell me so, because this is what mainly has me so pissed about not having ICS)

This is almost as bad when Sony removed Linux from the PS3!

I will never ever buy another thing that has the Sony brand on it, you never know what are they going to take away from the product.

So many promises... so many dissapointments!
[Xperia Play General] thatsupnow:
Pfft! Your an idiot and that's just thinking like an asshole would. That lawsuit would never get off the ground. Ever! Just let it go and try getting a life instead of thinking of bull****
[Xperia Play General] TwilightLoz:
is it possible for developers in the xperia scene to make the BETA into a fully functional ROM as if Sony were to make it?
[Xperia Play General] Beastlock:
it's a same i was realy looking forward for this update!

Luckly we have many great dev's:cool:!
[Xperia Play General] tiagoSequeira:
I always liked Sony's phones over the market beasts but now it really is over, never again gonna buy a Sony branded device. I only bought play because I was sure I would have official ICS if I knew about this I wouldn't have bought this phone. I'm really upset with this! Can't they keep something until the end? I think they always leave their projects on its half! Xperia Play could be way better if they made many more optimized games for Xperia Play only. They could make the ICS update! The other 2011 Xperia line phones have the same specs! Instead of not providing the update they could do something right and update it along with the launch of some optimized games for ICS! I'm sorry if I'm saying nothing useful but I really needed to spill this out!

Sony you just died to me.
[Xperia Play General] The-Captain:
Keep it cool guys, be nice, this thread is not to get people in arguments. I don't want to close this thread, but I will if I need to.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
The PS Suite, which is the store and launcher, IS out, its just not available in many places yet. It works on 2.3.3 I have it, too bad I have no damn games in it because its not officially released.

For anyone saying lawsuit or that they will never buy Sony again, come on, seriously? They sent the beta out to the community and the community came back with it not working. It has nothing to do with the specs and everything to do with the implementation of the gamepad. There were over 300 games released for this platform, if the most popular ones don't work, Sony will have a riot on their hands. This was not a corporate greed decision. And the man who said don't buy it for what it will do, but for what it does now is the smartest man in the room.

Go enjoy your iPhone and being stuck in the walled garden of crap that is Apple.
[Xperia Play General] supernoodles2011:
Indeed Ive been using this forum for a while now (to unbrick my Xperia play etc) and the devs and most members are amazing i hope we get a stable working rom with wifi/market etc

i honestly dont care about games anymore with this phone (i know its a gaming phone)

i just want the new ICS for most of its features

I.E... Face unlock - Task Manager And the ability to just swipe away apps to close them and im sure many other things that i cant think of right now as my brain is broken from the news of no official ICS =/
[Xperia Play General] JayGB2011:
Did we ever get an update to enable 720p recording which along with PS Suite was advertised at time of purchase?

I'm on ICS++ at the moment but do find that the device is not suited to ICS in general.

How can I safely return to GB? Which is the most stable and Stock like GB ROM?

I do admire Sony for releasing a beta ROM but to turn around and say nope we're not releasing it has completely changed my mind about them, The more fragmented Android gets the worse I am finding it.

I am thinking of selling the Xperia Play and Note + Touchpad as Android just is'nt for me anymore I think.

I'd much rather prefer to "join the garden" as this provides updates for a couple of years at least.

Android devices it seems are lucky to get updated after 12 - 18 months, Plus who releases the updates? Carriers / Manufacturers etc... Far too much uncertainty for my liking.

Don't get me wrong Android does have some nice features and being open is a major plus. But the constant Kang'ing of other people's work / Cooked ROM's are simply killing the Android eco-system

I wouldn't be suprised if Google shifts focus to Chrome now they have hired the WebOS team who use HTML5 and not Java apps like Android.

Sorry for the wall of text :)
[Xperia Play General] jim1h:
Nice! What are you talking aboot?
[Xperia Play General] Mr Vic:
Dissapointed by sony !

"F" Sony. I was looking 4ward 2 having ICS on my play , and now this "BULL". No more "f"en sony phones 4 me. :mad:
[Xperia Play General] TDMaster:
good bye Sony u broke my last stroke with ur devices..
[Xperia Play General] trueg:
This is true for me as well. The limited internal storage has been a continual pain. If ICS doesn't behave this way after all, then I would be much less upset. Does anyone know?
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
wow this blows so bad, i hardly used my play for gaming any more but was still looking forward to official ICS, i put up with the limited specs for a long time because i thought ICS was coming, im probably going to move on to another phone

heres hoping sony do a proper PSP phone one day
[Xperia Play General] The-Captain:
Stay calm guys, using language can result in an infraction.
[Xperia Play General] CTU_Loscombe:
So much wrongly directed anger in here. I said it earlier and I'll say it again: THIS IS NOT SONYS FAULT!

Instead of throwing your toys outta your pram, just suck it up people.
[Xperia Play General] TheCraig:
I kind of agree there, I mean I was looking forward to it as I started to use my Vita more but this has been a huge blow for me, I'm considering the HTC One X, Galaxy S3 or the next Nexus device, either way I'm looking for a Quad core that will be future proof, But I don't think Sony is the next device for me.
[Xperia Play General] supernoodles2011:
i found this rather interesting this post

http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288

States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...

Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again
[Xperia Play General] UNP69:
How is this not Sony's fault? It's their phone. It's their broken promises. Maybe if they're unsure of the future ability one of their handsets has to support updated software, they shouldn't make promises they're not necessarily going to be able to fulfil.

This is bullcrap. I requested this phone as a christmas gift expecting full ICS support by May AS PROMISED, only to see this happen. Guess I better start looking for a new handset.
[Xperia Play General] CTU_Loscombe:
I'll tell you why this is not Sonys fault. They honestly thought that the Play could handle ICS. However, after the wider community tested the beta build, there were too many problems to be addressed. Even on some the roms that the brilliant devs here have created, the issues ensue. Its probably a lot more complicated than, say, editing a few lines of code to get the gamepad to work. Sony cannot afford to spend money supporting the extremely small userbase that the Play caters toward. If you think they should, then go tell Activision to start making Atari 2600 games again for the few people who still own it.........

Remember, the Play is at heart a gaming device and a phone second. The gamepad is the top issue for people with regards to the ICS update and if Sony released the update with the broken gamepad there would be absolute uproar.

Also, I have to add, dont buy a device based on future potential.
[Xperia Play General] devguy22:
I find it strange that Sony had problems getting the touchpads to work properly in ICS. They created the API that uses them in Gingerbread, and know all the quirks for games like GTA/Gameloft games that still elude the CM7 teams. Further, Honeycomb and ICS add native support for game controllers and other input devices (like a synaptics touchpad). Emulators like N64oid and FPSE now work without any new configuration in ICS.

So, what happened?
[Xperia Play General] UNP69:
$ony's ballsweat must taste fantastic because you're going to bat for them so eagerly. You know why nothing you said is of any merit?

DEVELOPERS ON THESE VERY FORUMS HAVE GOTTEN THE GAMEPADS WORKING ON ICS ROMS WITH LITTLE TO NO PROBLEMS.

I'll tell you what happened. $ony released a bunch of new phones and doesn't want to continue developing for its older ones. They're too lazy or greedy to make good on anything they said in the first place to get people across the door.

I'm not touching another $ony device until they show me that what they said they'd give me when I bought it and what they actually wound up giving me are one and the same. So I'm probably never using another $ony handset again.

And if you couldn't tell, I'm inordinately annoyed by this. I'm stuck in a phone contract for another 6 goddamn months because of this with a phone that I either have to eat stale gingerbread to use properly, or risk using an unstable alpha build of an ICS rom - which is what I'm actually doing, because f-ck gingerbread on this device, it's like pulling teeth.

If it's such an impossibility for the $ony devs to achieve it then maybe they should step aside and let some developers with a clue take over.
[Xperia Play General] supernoodles2011:
They Couldnt be bothered i dont care what anyone says... as far as they are concerned our Xperia Play And our Custom means nothing to them we were "testing" a product at a £500 price mark and still are... things are missing from the phone that should be there still to this day... i ran the beta and things worked fine for me just stopped using it due to the lack of wifi and market... They are lazy and would prefer To get rid of the "ericsson" part of the name and make us upgrade to there latest £500 phone to get what we want

we may not NEED ICS but i want it as i was promised it... dont care what way anyone says a promise isnt always kept..

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basicly exactly what i said in my above post its all about the money.. dont care what anyone says... it costs too much time for them to do anything for there "failed experiment" as people are saying here...

i love my PLAY i even encouraged a family member to get one.. what a fool i look now