yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] glacierguy:
It's really simple if you follow HTCs instructions.

Make sure when u copy unlock token, you are copying only necessary characters.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Vally2k:
Even If I follow that, when I reach the CMD prompt part, my it will show the " Waiting for device" dialog, and my phone's USB debugging is active and my phone is on, the hasoon2000's pattern of doing this always restart my phone and boot into the HBOOT section which is locked and I can never get to unlock it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Are all your drivers installed and SDK manager updated?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Vally2k:
Is there any ways I can get to turn it to S-OFF? Please
[HTC Amaze 4G] kenypowa:
Make sure you follow HTCDev's instruction and have the following installed: HTC Sync, Android SDK, and Java SE JDK. It's very simple if you use the all in one tool.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kenypowa:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1616472
[HTC Amaze 4G] Vally2k:
Let me check all this out, and I will give the outputs of my progress

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Would any of you like to teamview me please? So you could see what am saying, I will tell you whatever my phone displays, but I need either or both of you to see what's up with problem
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Place the unlock_code file in the data folder of hasoon's tool and hit unlock bootloader, it'll do all the work.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Vally2k:
The problem is that I can't get the unlock code even.. I have follow all the instructions from HTC DEV and a few other sites, I get stuck at the cmd prompt page dialog "waiting for device" and nothing else happens even until up to 73 minutes I waited.
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
You need to install the drivers - a quick search in these forums will find them if windows can't.. or maybe someone else is nice enough to give you a link - but it has to recognize the phone - windows needs drivers.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Vally2k:
I don't know how much I will have to explain this, but I have installed all the necessary drivers when I got the One S and I have the android SDK and Java JDK installed right from my Infuse 4G.

I would love a teamview operation
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
HTC drivers is not the same as others - there is a zip on these forums that has drivers for all HTC phones. Teamview isn't going to help you connect to the computer - if it doesn't detect the phone, the drivers aren't installed properly. Go to hardware manager, look for your phone.. if it DOES have drivers, uninstall and install the right ones - if you have the little yellow icon saying it doesn't have them.. install them. But trust me, you need the RIGHT drivers, no way to skip that step or get help doing it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Vally2k:
Ok I will try again.. I thought this fastboot issue was with the One S which was why I returned it... After this hassles with this Amaze, I might return it and head back to Samsung or LG
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
No matter what you buy, when you try to do these things yourself, you have to be able to figure out how.. if you were running stock gingerbread you could just click check for updates and it would do it all for you - but getting a different phone doesn't mean you won't have to know how to operate it.

You might as well finish what you started, you'll likely learn a bit, and in the future maybe you won't end up returning perfectly good devices. :o

With samsung you'd have to know how to use ODIN(which is harder to use and easier to screw up), and you would have the EXACT same problem if you didn't have drivers installed.. and I'll bet LG is the same way. It is on you to do some legwork my friend.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Lol at just giving up, wish I did, knowing the number of times I failed, almost bricked my devices a million times.
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
Dude, but you learned a lot I'll bet.. I mean you have s-off, you've themed it-- you never know what you're capable of until you try. The only way to be safe is to practice better research, narrowing down the answer, till you are so close to 100% certainty that there is no risk(then you've learned things that apply to other things).. the other way to be safe is to not try. The only true failure is the failure to try.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
So I was right? It was the drivers?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Exactly, the only true failure is the failure to try, this was my very first htc device, damn it's a lot of work to be able to fully customize your device to your liking (s-off), but it's worth it, just be careful, read read read, and do as I do, have a **** load of youtube videos, the tutorial and even threads of past members doing it all over my desktop as I proceed to do whatever and be patient, you might screw up at some point, but NEVER stop, keep going, you'll get it.

By the way as GG said, it is the drivers, I saw this today when I switched pcs and couldn't find my device though ADB was installed, simply download hasoon's tool, install the drivers via it, unplug and plug your device back it, it should detect as a new device and the drivers should install, after that adb/fastboot will be detected.

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For the record, tutorials are there for a reason, that's the main thing you always find and follow detail for detail, if you don't understand words, look for a video, youtube has millions.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ihustle50:
So I am having the exact same problem as OP. However, he doesn't really explain how he was able to install the RUU after re-locking the boatloader. I would really appreciate some help.

Thank you!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Shahxz:
If any otherbody stuck on this problem. go to htcdev.com and get token again. if you fail to paste token id on htcdev.com then first paste it from cmd to ms word and then in htcdev column. You will surely receive the token. If again fail then make a new account on htcdev.com and do the same process. problem will be solved. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lojak29:
I know someone knows the answer,

its uncertain but id like to know

i got a white note used unlocked it was on tmobile i set the apn settings for atat

but its on saurom project rom

Under battery the factory tag says i717 not i717r

But under settings about it says i717r

And when i factory reset the device on saurom it shows the big android guy touch here i717r

So my question is do i trust the tag under battery or does the saurom project rom cause it to say the phone is i717r
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kferguson84:
Trust the tag under the battery. Saurom is a Canadian ROM originally designed for the Rogers network. once it is flashed, it will show your phone as an i717r instead of i717. It will even show with the R in the Play Store. No worries though. Everything is the same regardless of the R when it comes to operation an app downloading.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lojak29:
thanks a ton i appreciate that , it answers it all
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Agoattamer:
Does it have ATT on the top front or does it say Samsung? If it says ATT then it is the I717. If it says samsung then it is most likely a 717R.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lojak29:
atat

what threw me off was as the other guy mentioned saurom is a rogers based rom

so it intially showed i717r in the about phone section but i wasnt sure cause under batery it says i717 and atat on front

Ive already flashed stock tar and back on gb

and rooted.... but as i have asked now in another post Can i flash cwm rec without odin in anyway or is cwm only doable with odin?

I suspected by now rom manager would be updated
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] chak29:
Odin its the way to flash cwm. If u worry about Odin increase the flash counter no worry there's a way to bypass it. Search in flash counter reset and how to install cwm abt tripping the flash counter.
[Off-topic] dev_man77:
So this summer I was going to build a carputer with a kit that I already have, similar to this :

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Seeing that the new windows 8 metro style UI looks to be very touch screen friendly. I just have to find a double DIN friendly touch screen. And the board that I got has 5 CH audio output that I would just run into a 4 channel amp for my speakers.

Then I started thinking that I like the android tablet idea because I am more familiar with it and I can BT from a tablet to my phone to use internet and GPS functions and that would be titties, only downfall was that I would only have 2CH of audio split into two to get my 4CH, that and every 7" tablet that fits a double DIN hole is pretty weak, but could work.

Then I found this effer:

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Seems to be everything I wanted, just not sure on sound quality or how well the systems integrations work... that and I get to do no customization and building myself.

I already have a double DIN touch screen dvd car stereo but it lacks navigation and Bluetooth capability.

Dunno whats better.
[Off-topic] pnroshani:
Probably Windows 8.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Android is just not an OS meant for something beyond phones, if you want something touch friendly on a larger scale, the tiny icons of ICS on a tab aren't it while driving. Windows 8 is info at a glance, just like windows phone. Given the option, I'd take the OS that seems to be suited for the job, GPS/BT link to your phone would still work given the right programs on win8
[Off-topic] ChapQuin:
i think android
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
If it runs google music in terms of music, it would be good. Android can also offer FM radio if the device supports it, and I don't think Windows 8 does that
[Off-topic] v0nHippie:
Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.

So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
[Off-topic] v0nHippie:
That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.

Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.
[Off-topic] mistermentality:
As long as its not the arm version of windows 8, which won't run older windows software, I think windows 8 is better choice. It will run lots of the very good pre existing windows software and be compatible with additional hardware you might want to add later such as wireless controls and screens etc.

Android is a good choice but for op's needs windows 8 is probably better.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Off-topic] mrw0rm:
For the time being I would say android, mostly because Windows 8 is young and there aren't many (mature) apps you could use effectively for the purposes you want.

However, I believe a year (maybe a bit more) from now, Windows 8 tablets should be on par with android and when you think about all these Windows 8 non-tablet apps you could also run, Win8 will be the way to go.

TL;DR Android for a year, switch to Windows 8 later if you want comfort. Or just skip android and get Windows device.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.
[Off-topic] sebOp:
There will be more possibilities with Windows 8, but atm Windows 8 have to much bugs. For now better choice is android, for the future win8.
[Off-topic] lowandbehold:
The guy wants to put a tablet in his car...you think he is worried about customizing?? Please stop the madness. Even on the most beta of ROM's you have working GPS, music, games, and bluetooth. What more do you need? Also I don't know how much you follow Android, but there was just a HUGE breakthrough in per app DPI that would make customizing a tablet for a situation like this super easy.
[Off-topic] VOT Productions:
Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...
[Off-topic] bartoloandre98:
What makes you think android lags?

Sent from My Samsung Galaxy S2 running Paranoidandroid Rom.What else if not?=P
[Off-topic] sitizenx:
How do you know Andriod has "less bugs" when Windows 8 isn't even out yet?

BSOD and license agreement prompts?! Are you using a pirated copy of Windows 98? I have Windows 7 64 bit and the ONLY time I ever saw a BSOD was with a new third party piece of hardware that had buggy firmware. Pulled that out of my case and never saw anything like that again.
[Off-topic] vetvito:
Android, car mode, Done.

Windows 8 on a small board? Probably will have to be the RT version and it'll have to be pirated. Even then you don't know what all will work.
[Off-topic] mistermentality:
You always get a bee in your bonnet about android lagging but ignoring that, as you never listen to anyone who says otherwise, even if it were not touch friendly on a big screen just how big a screen do you expect it to be using in a car? It wouldn't be a problem even if it were true, though I would like to see sources backing up that claim of not being touch friendly.

Stability? Seriously? You do realise android phones can be left on indefinitely without becoming unstable so how can stability be an issue?

I actually agree windows makes more sense but I do think your mistaken in your view of android.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Off-topic] JhonKa:
If the Car-PC you are getting is x86... go for Windows 8

if it's an ARM based computer... go Android

Best keep it native right?
[Off-topic] vince.liu:
Also i think android is better, it's more easy to use like your wife or child;)
[Off-topic] v0nHippie:
ARM, from what I understand, is much better when it comes to power consumption. Overal, much more efficient.

The other issue that I think is importnat is that, going into the future, upgrades and updates will be much nicer with Android than with Windows. You won't be messed around with the "only 7.5 can use the market now".

Finally, Internet Explorer.

I've been using Linux since 2007, so I don't know if Windows has improved in recent years (it would be hard not to, from what it was).
[Off-topic] kellyone:
RE:

I would probably go with windows 8 sir!
[Off-topic] Android_Monsters:
I almost feel dirty saying it, but windows.
[Off-topic] eikiel:
Whats the cost difference? If you are going to use Google maps for navigation on Android, you then have to have some kind of data connection. This could rapidly inflate the cost to run.

Anyone know what the boot time difference is? That could be HUGELY important, because if it was my car, I would turn it off every time I parked to save car battery life, then boot times come important (Android on my phone/tablet seems slower than windows 7 on a laptop with an SSD, but maybe thats just me?)
[Off-topic] dev_man77:
Wow, wasnt even expecting any input, Thanks though!

The computer I have is basically the same box and chipset as in the OP from mp3car.com. Except I do have a 128G solidstate in it right now. I read through the comments and I am still on the fence. I have a Samsung Series 9 with a solid state in it and it REBOOTS in just under 28 seconds that that by far beats my android.

My only problem is that I want to use the double DIN dash already in my car which only allows for a select few tablets to fit in there, not to mention the inaccesability to the buttons that are located on the sides. The tablets I did find that would work are severly under powered.

I think I will go windows 8 (there is a consumer preview available for legal downloading at teh time being) because the tethering from my device seems easier than the tethering from my phone to a tablet. I know there is an app for sharing bluetooth for android to allow GPS functions on your tablet though.

The cost would be about the same for either right now, seems how I already have the major component for the windows 8 option. I just need a touch screen and a 4CH amp and I'm ready to rock. If I were to go android I would still need to purchase said tablet and customize the LCD density and find a little dev support for the craptacular tablets that fit the slot. Car mode is a nice option though.

But I suppose I could make a mount that protrudes slightly from the double DIN slot so I can access buttons and such, that way I can get a better tablet and remove it from the car and use it anywhere else. Samsung galaxy tab 2 7" seems like a nice option...

Sound quality is going to be an issue as well. With android I will have to slpit the 2Ch into 4CH and I dont know how well that would sound. And with the people that have built carputers in the past have often complained of engine noise coming through the stereo.

This seems perfect:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/555822713/TD718A_2_din_Android_Tablet_car.html

But I have not heard of this company or how well this unit works. Yeah the tablet is really crappy but you get alot of components for the price and again, the cost would be about the same to finish my windows 8 setup, or buying a new/used tablet.
[Off-topic] Ballarous:
I could see both of them working just fine but I would probably go with windows 8. There is just so much more you can do with it and would probably easier to use while on the road.
[Off-topic] brooksyx:
I'm surprised we haven't seen a large number of android double din decks hit the market. Would make for a perfect carputer os. Its light weight and has all the needed features like GPS, radio, mp3 player, etc. Would also be easy to make a good launcher for it. If someone puts out a quality device like this sign me up.
[Off-topic] new ion?:
Boot time. purpose built systems boot much faster

Op - what do you want to do with it?
[Off-topic] Lizman:
Windows 8

No Competition
[Off-topic] mscice:
id go with android of course :)
[Off-topic] mrbuz:
There is an Android 2.2 800Mhz 256MB 8GB 6,2" TFT CAR DVD on sale (800 USD to door in Russia) that I have bought recently and after some software installations it does deliver what I have wanted to have in the car.

Nevertheless there are a few major complaints to its performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx53a6N7_ws

As well there are several other minor things that would be great to change if possible.

If there is someone interested and able to cook a custom ROM for this device - I can send this device for free as a gift and for experiments. We really want a good ROM for this CA-Fi Car Stereo and the guy's in China don't seem caring enough.

I will check this thread once in a while and provide contact details for anyone interested in developing this device. It is very close to being a great thing for a CAR!

I have updated my email in the XDA profile so you can as well use this option to contact me.

PS

I Have a ROM update file (192MB) that came from the device vendor (dealer). I can send it out for revision.

The way to install this rom on the car stereo is to extract files to the root of a microSD card, insert it, switch off the device, then, while holding the screen tapped, power on – the device starts an install mode. When finished it asks for screen calibration and restarts with a new rom as after a hard reset (erases everything).
[Off-topic] CueballUK:
MrBuz fully agree with you here. There's also a newer version of the Ca-Fi out.

http://ca-fi.com/en/archives/1027
[Off-topic] cola1975:
For me only Android
[Off-topic] 85gallon:
Why have a separate car computer and cell phone?

I want mirror link. It is a car head unit that mirrors your phone.

[YOUTUBE]MM4IiH8-RLU[/YOUTUBE]

Mirrorlink.com
[Off-topic] zeroplanet9:
Is there anything worthy other than Android? I'f it were me, I couldn't wait to flash the crap out of it!
[Off-topic] firmol:
Car PC with Windows 8

Today with Windows 8 is very different, with the Metro apps you can do almost anything. :laugh:

The E3iO CarPC can be a good choice

Intel Core i3 to i7

4 or 8 Gb RAM

SSD SanDisk 2.5" 64GB

Double DIN 7" Touch Screen LCD.

Just 7 1/4" deep (18.4 cm).

Audio Amplifier 4 Ch 50W per channel.

Microphone.

USB GPS Receiver.

FM Radio.

Bluetooth.

Wi-Fi.

USB 2.0.

Screen Remote Control.

Harness Cable.

e3io.com/content/images/E3iO-Car-PC-Mini-ITX-V2-07.jpg

youtube.com/watch?v=3cExu_Ieg6c
[Off-topic] ErebusRaze:
INeither... The QNX microkernel in BBX is a multipurpose kernel which has been used primarily in the embedded systems market before making the move to the BlackBerry Play book, Z10, etc. When you think of GPS, slot machines, nuclear reactors, wind turbines, numerous PC hardware, etc; an iteration of the QNX platform was used to power the GUI of these platforms. Neither Android or Windows 8 OS's would have been good on these devices due to the way their respective hybrid and monolithic kernel architectures were written. Don't sleep on QNX.
[Off-topic] machmanx:
External devices?

I like the idea of using Android as a CarPC as it's got Google Navigation, which is one of the best in my opinion. Then again I haven't used much beyond TomTom and Garmin dedicated devices and the crappy ATT navigation. Oh, and the sucky Honda built-in navigation that charges you $185 per year for new map updates.

The issue I have with android is accepting external devices like FM module, HD radio module, multi-monitor display, remote software, temperature probes, multifunction control devices, etc etc. I don't need it all, but these devices have been around for years for windows PCs. To buy the Android equivalent, if out there, would require software modification that allows Android to accept such input devices. How bout an external microphone? Yeah you can bluetooth it but the cost is 5-10 times more the Windows equivalent.

Android has the better interface because it's made for touch. Some windows apps will have the mouse pointer showing. If you use an android tablet you can take it out of your car after use (you should, otherwise temperatures). The PC you leave in the car, but that could be less of a hassle than the Android device. Android-android communication is limited whereas android to PC communication is better, so you can plug your phone into your car PC. Which brings another point: You could run some sort of mirror software to run those few Android apps on the Windows car PC. Or run an Android emulator.

Android is pretty much instant on as you rarely turn the device off. Since you will be using the device plugged in, you don't have to worry about battery charge. Windows is slower, but with current technologies like SSD and better support for standby mode, the gap is fairly thin. My computer can boot Windows 8 in 7-10 seconds, and it's not that powerful of a machine (AMD A6).

So I guess it's not really clear which is the better option. For this very reason I'm struggling with the choice. I got both options, but installing Android into a car is harder than sliding in a touch monitor in a double din slot. But that google navigation is something I don't wanna give up.
[Off-topic] jadeisjaded:
I think I'd go with android, since it seems better suited.
[Off-topic] T10NAZ:
I would (imo) go with android, just cause its possible to get launchers with big icons and can tether up to your phone or just get a tab with cellular support.
[Off-topic] Shō Shin:
I choose you, Go Windows 8 !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chancy319:
I have been shopping around for plans to use on my GNex. I decided to go with T-Mobile's $30 unlimited data plan.

However, on the website, I don't see any link to purchase it. I've looked and looked. This is where I am stuck: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans. All I see is "Shop all phones". Do you have to buy a phone before being able to buy the plan? Really confused about this. :confused: Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kolyan:
Walmart
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ransfer:
I believe that you can just order the sim and activate the plan when you get the sim delivered.