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[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Anyday now, anyday... Desire S got the leak 23rd May, and the official OTA just hit China yesterday... Took HTC about a bloody month!
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
Im not sure if the site is right, but the fact that theres no leak doesnt mean its not coming.
[Desire HD General] getaceres:
Of course not, but it's strange that all the devices have leaks from at least one month in advance and ours doesn't.
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
I think we need to wait some week till and watch what 3 will do
[Desire HD General] zdjaib:
OT: Android Jellybean is 4.1, just confirmed

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/355214/20120622/android-4-1-jelly-bean-galaxy-nexus.htm
[Desire HD General] littleluke79:
not soon

We'd better get the ICS at last, then we'll get crazy about jelly one ;)

I really can't wait
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
does anyone knows when we will get jelly bean?
[Desire HD General] getaceres:
Never. Not from HTC, that's for sure. But maybe someone will get a fully functional unoficial port.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Yeah that's possible and would be awsome :)
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
lolz
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
I want jelly bean.... can't wait...
[Desire HD General] will5:
Guys, you should start trolling on htc facebook page.

Look what we did to motorola. After years of trolling, they released 0 updates. But they turn into one of the worst android phones seller. Now every review remarks the locked bootloader.

Bad ad is all we need. Google is an ad company, they know better.
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
This is actually not correct. ICS source didn't come out yesterday (that was JB source). The DHD was released in October of 2010 whilst ICS was demoed at 2011 Google I/O on the G Nexus, and the source was released a few days later. The same Google I/O HTC amongst Samsung, Sony and LG commited to support their devices for 18 months. It was a no brainer back then, the DHD at only 12 months old and way more than minimum required specs would get the update.

I have owned numerous HTC devices over the years, beginning with the imate PDA2k (HTC Bluangel) and many other devices including but not limited to imate KJam, HTC Universal, HTC Trinity, diamond, touch pro 1 & 2, touch HD, G1, HD2 and closing the era with the DHD which I own since late December 2010.

I have always bought HTC phones, not because of good device support but because of good community support. That's why I am here anyway. What would anyone running a stock rom and not root do in XDA anyway.

After the release of the DHD, HTC's orientation has changed. They have since locked down their bootloaders and due to the community outcry they offer a partially unlocked solution through HTC dev and their partners, qualcom and nvidia offer no source to their stuff.

Personally I have been running CM6 and CM7 since when the first stable nightlies came out and tried a few sense roms over time but none was to my taste, so I have become a religious follower of CM's work. I do not care about sense and that's why it's over for me.

Samsung's previous flagship, the original Galaxy S was 18 months old when the ICS source was released and because of their new stance to support the community the original S has been running ICS flawlessly for more than 6 months now. The same goes for Sony devices and their similar approach to the community and of course the same goes for the Nexus series. The nexus S, release at the same time with the DHD has just received it's official JB upgrade but we, with inferior hardware should be happy with GB. I know many people are but I am not.

Many people may call me a noob or ungrateful to the great HTC. Who knows, maybe they are right but that's not how I feel. I feel like I have been conned. They insult my intelligence by saying the DHD doesn't have the required juice to run ICS. Their current flagship, the One X has been released in February. It will get JB but it will probably not get the next version of android which should be released after February next year so after 2-3 months when it finally receives it's update it may well be regarded as an eol device.

As said the above express how I feel and why I am done with HTC. Others are entitled to their own opinion and their future devices are their decision.

Good bye HTC. It's been a long ride, 8 years to be exact but I'm jumping off the train. I'm not buying or recommending your products ever again, unless all these are rectified. And I'm not only referring to your unacceptable approach to your once flagship device. That was only the last strike to verify what I have long realised and known.
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
That's another reason not to buy another HTC device. Sense 4 is too complicated for us and we won't be able to use the device :D:D:D
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Post this on HTC's official FB page, so they can read it properly.

Thumb down for HTC!
[Desire HD General] Spakainz:
Hmm I have waited ICS update for DHD as others... I've thought that HTC is great company, but I was wrong. No one can play the games like this one ...HTC, you are fooling your customers....HTC had helped me to make my decision about next phone. Bye HTC.:eek:
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
I don't really use facebook and I'm done with HTC anyway, no matter what, unless there is a complete shift in direction. Feel free to quote anywhere you like if you wish.
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
" ...ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor."

By the sounds of these posts, the CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE is pretty poor at the moment.
[Desire HD General] amf66:
It probably won't do anything, but I've sent them an email, a tweet, and have posted on their Facebook page. It's better than nothing and I encourage others to do the same.
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
My question to you all, what if the next nexus device is made by HTC? By buying it you would still be technically supporting HTC
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
Can people go over to the Petition thread and sign it, I am trying to get as much people as I can so we can get an update

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1786479
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
I tried to, but after I log-on with my facebook account, fill the comment box, and then click on Next button, the web is just asking for donations and redirected me to PayPal payment page.
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
You can sign with out facebook
[Desire HD General] Twinspark156:
Aint incredible S and Desire HD aroung the same hardware ? cause htc is startet to roll out official icecream out to incredible S here in Denmark
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
Donation not required
[Desire HD General] 5qra:
Middle finger 4 htc

I bought 5 htc device, and they fu#ked me 5 times - thats enough!!!!

No update for Magic, Desire Z, no update DHD, no for flyer.

htc u are like little children which make **** on the carpet and can admit to this.

BTW, I've got some htc 4 sell - crappy stuff so price would be nice ;)

and please change topic name.
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
no need it for petition, just give them hell on facebook they care more about that than anything else lol

this is so odd it came out on desire S incredible S and sensation xl, the desires s is almost the exact same

this means they have a problem with some of the drivers provided by OEMs

give them rage on facebook, it worked for the classic desire cancelled GB release
[Desire HD General] mol1974:
Blimey! There really are some sad cases on here! Get some perspective people, It's an update for a telephone, it's certainly not the end of the world! My next choice of phone will be based on whatever's out and whatever looks good, be that HTC or otherwise. Some of the comments on this thread do make me wonder about the sanity of certain people.
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
I remember when Desire did not get GB! HTC released it anyways! In a primitiv form.

I Hope they do it for Dhd too
[Desire HD General] Quinny899:
We don't just want the update for the update, the update contains Kernel 3, which would fix camera in sense 4 roms. Without it, development will die down even more quickly
[Desire HD General] noam_el:
You buy a phone based on whatever's out and whatever looks good. But some people buy a phone based on whatever lasts longest, meaning whatever gets updated.

So you can understand why stating a phone WILL be updated, then taking it back and cancelling the update, can upset some customers. If you can't rely on the manufacturer's word when you choose a phone, it's more than enough of a reason to stay away from that manufacturer.
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
I'm still a good while away from an update, still about a year or so out, so...
[Desire HD General] [secret]:
Additionaly, you pay 500 $ or sometimes even more for a phone. I think updates and services are something customers can demand by paying such a high price.
[Desire HD General] Pop Tarantula:
agreed.....

it's called future-proofing and is a typical behaviour in technology purchasing.....

some people will buy 'disposable' devices that are pretty much redundant from the day the are released & others will want more bangs for the buck in something that will outlast or at least keep up with the next couple of generations.

2 years on & DHD's are still more than capable of outperforming (shaming) many current/new devices & HTC know it.....

Blaming Sense incompatibilities is no reason not to give over the code to developers who have no financial incentive to throw this excellent device on the scrap heap. Everyone should sign max's petition!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1786479
[Desire HD General] animaleyes76:
Just for the recordTelus weren't right all the time, the decision changed twice after their unofficial leak that it was cancelled.
[Desire HD General] XDA_h3n:
What's the point of hTC making and testing it for a month, then not even releasing it. Waste of time, to be honest.

Sent from my HTC Zero HD :3
[Desire HD General] a.s.t.e.k.:
Who says they even bothered with the coding and testing.
[Desire HD General] kaleun:
That is my hope too...
[Desire HD General] pwraggcan:
That's it from me for HTC. I've been with them since the g1 but now I'll go to Samsung. The Dhd definitely has the hardware to run ics and if they don't update it or release the source code they're just ripping us all off trying to get us to buy unnecessary upgrades. I'll upgrade but not to the one x.

HTC, you're losing touch with your customers' wants and needs and this will help the downturn of your already struggling sales. You should be loyal to the customers that have been so supportive of you.
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
It's not simply an update for a phone. It's about choosing an oem who will give you the most freedom to tinker around with your phone if that's what you like. I still like to take my blueangel or another one of my older devices, flash the latest rom available and put it back in the drawer feeling somewhat satisfied for being able to do so. You won't see me carrying that dinosaur though. It's not enough for a phone to be up to date. It has to look nice too and after a year or two you want something new. If your satisfied with your previous oem you don't look elsewhere. Unfortunately HTC is quickly becoming android's apple.

And regarding the next nexus being made by HTC, even though I don't think it will be, it doesn't change anything. The bootloader will be easily unlockable and the updates will come directly from google with no htc bloat. A nexus is a nexus.
[Desire HD General] DaRk_dOg:
By far the most disappointing tech news these days.

Its amazing how HTC decided to feed the users with SO much bs regarding the user experience etc.

Isn't the Desire S almost identical in terms of HW?

Enough of these crap. Thank god I got a Nexus and not an One X.

PS: XL3N7 you are speaking wise my friend :good:

Regards, D_d
[Desire HD General] springy:
I think we just got to use Social Media to get HTC to leak what they have already done as people has suggested above. Either use the FB page that people has already done, or just get things trending on Twitter or Google+

Also lets sign the petition to at least get the source code they have been using... http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-us-ics/

Also I wrote a Google+ post to give us the kernel which is all we really need! https://plus.google.com/u/0/104872135529411360480/posts/atBdREuNTw4

Lets get something trending and lets make it known to HTC that we are not happy!!!
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
this is helarious htc hahahahahaha

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1786849
[Desire HD General] jcmaddox1:
I feel you, dude. I am too, but I might be getting hooked up with a gnexus soon.
[Desire HD General] aidinvm_ultimate:
they all kidding us!!!!!! :confused:
[Desire HD General] springy:
That is just poor internal communication... Really bad.. LOL
[Desire HD General] MrKaon:
It's official DHD is not getting ICS.

http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/

now it's time to boycott HTC products and bombardement their social media with negative comments.
[Desire HD General] ErMeglio:
Absolutely my opinion. Still hoping a cutted-down version comes out for dev purposes.
[Desire HD General] Nadirchine:
THE BEST SENTENCE IN THIS TOPIC "ALL DHD USERS WILL boycott HTC products "
[Desire HD General] Clayloo:
No need to count HTC any more, as we got genius devs, such as Christch1974 and his Virtuous team.... We'll have a full Sense 4 ROM with working camera and recording soon from the Virtuous. Just follow his tweet.
[Desire HD General] Pop Tarantula:
Hooray!!! the next rumour mill has started...

now they are implying that they simply meant "ICS with Sense 4.0/3.6/whatever" is what they intended to update us with. Seems they are now telling people that this was the 'unacceptable user experience' upgrade & they are probably going to give ICS with a lesser version of Sense instead (3.0 perhaps)...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1786849

Let the slobbering commence.................
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
their biggest selling android device, the exact same hardware as Desire S/Incredible S/Sensation XL that already got ICS up and runnning

i think they just opened the doors of hell :D

their facebook is already being flooded with owners jumping ship

who the hell thought this is a clever decision? i'm leaning toward a decision made to convert people to the One series since the DHD crossed their 18months threshold

This is the problem with HTC they think their users do not know their hardware, just the like the One X is being listed as simply quad core on their website without mentioning Tegra3, you can't simply lie to them and say "the hardware can't handle this"

I promised my friend who bought my DHD an ICS update when i sold it to him, because they said its coming

This is joke

I give them two days before they eat their words :D

oh and by the way my Sensation XL bought from Thailand, still did not receive the update

---------- Post added at 11:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 AM ----------

It's the exact thing, only difference panel and camera....ROMs of the Desire S and Sensation XL runs with little effort
[Desire HD General] Anfetamin:
When the release date virtuous team. any information please. thanks your effort team.
[Desire HD General] Clayloo:
There's no ETA as the team is making the ROM available for some other HTC phones, but Chrisch said it's SOON. Just just be patient and we'll get surprised:) If u have been here for more than one year, u should know that the team Virtuous is a great one that we can fully count on.
[Desire HD General] P00t:
when a company cant make promises they cant make, they shouldnt have said anything at all.. about DHD ICS update...

not gonna get a HTC device anymore. Going for the Samsungs~
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Samsung? Are you sure? They are even still released new phone nowadays with GB. The best way if you dont wanna leave behind, go for Nexus phones, Google's royal blood, otherwise you will have to experience the same **** like this everytime Google released new Android version.
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
well... its so sad...

we are not getting ics anymore.

im not gonna buy one from htc anymore....
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Please update the information in post #1, Sir, which inform that ICS update for DHD is OFFICIALY cancelled by HTC itself.
[Desire HD General] angramenyu:
I know the devs around here will work on something good for us.
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
Yeah but there's rumors now it isn't cancelled.
[Desire HD General] omario8484:
Well I don't think I could stray away from HTC...I love their sense UI that's the reason I bought.one in the first place...whenever flashing within a couple days I always revert back.to sense ...hopefully they just Give the devs something to work with after this immature week from them
[Desire HD General] angramenyu:
What will happen is that they are still going to release ICS for the DHD, but with the same Sense UI.
[Desire HD General] iPwn_:
Who cares? Virtuous team has a working 3.0 kernel for DHD with working camcorder and camera.

https://twitter.com/chrisch1974/status/226603252689555456
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Lets wait for Virtuous Team released their Sense 4 ROM, after this we can post some nice screenshot on HTC's FB and twitter account with words such as "screw you HTC"...
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
At this point I want JellyBean anyways. What an addiction!
[Desire HD General] Nobodys_me:
How I feel:

Htc: Dhd is getting ics in june

Me: k wait for it

Htc: after 6 month we are not quite done so wait till July - August for ics

(meanwhile google released JB)

Me: still waiting for my good new (old) ics

Htc: testing builds are out and being tested

Me: WAITING

Htc: ruu builds are causing problems and we CBF working on them anymore... Statement: your phone hardware is not good enough and you've waited 6 month for nothing. Have a good life.

Me: waiting again (for the next galaxy note or bloody nexus phone)

Seriously not funny at ALL!

nobody
[Desire HD General] P00t:
My carrier doesn't have galazy nexus... At&t
[Desire HD General] gmurphy0487:
You can use the unlocked one on AT&T. Just get it from play store and put in your sim.
[Desire HD General] sergiu_07_07:
I don't think the ICS update is canceled.....only that we will have android 4.0 on Sense 3.0 (not 3.6).

"After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD"
[Desire HD General] Fatos:
It is a bit of to sided sentece. I am wondering also.

Is it totally canvleled or not.
[Desire HD General] omario8484:
Sorry if this is a real noobyquestion but would that still be the kernel 3.0 that we want
[Desire HD General] amf66:
Yes, it would have the 3.0 kernel.
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
I don't agree. If that was what they meant then that is what they would've written.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
The problem stating "I will never buy an htc phone again" however outraged we are, is that:

1- a business as large as htc only sees us as numbers, we are only a small % of their business.

2- other businesses where they have done similar things, having a large amount of people 'disgusted' with whatever policy or decision, the customers stating the same thing, some to most people end up going back to them. Even if they don't - it's still a numbers game.

3- and other things I can't think about right now.

Sent from a dream.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] aidinvm_ultimate:
Today, i contact HTC and they said Desire HD will get ICS !

Please have a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1786849

So plz be patient

Probably we still get ICS hopefully
[Desire HD General] amf66:
In that case what do you propose as a better protest?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Heck, I don't know.

The petition thing seems fine. Will it work? Maybe.

But with all the talent that we have here on xda....

Start flooding email, facebook, blogs andso forth, with witty comments, pics, and so forth bashing htc.

Get together, think of cartoon strips, wallpapers, create negative publicity for them as an end user. They promised something but state - what was it? Lies or things that don't make sense?

They may need to rethink their decision if it affects them economically. The petition may work, if we get 250,000 - 500,000 or more people to sign.

Negative publicity, changing the way the consumer thinks of a company...well, but it can not be lies. Copy paste, make screenshots of official releases where they state one thing, then state the other, and sincewe have ics working and jellybean soon.... I hope I got my point across.

Edit: another thing, there will be conflicting information regarding update, no update and such at this point. The company is too big for all the branches to have the official decision. I have not read the official statement, but I have been reading contradictory or conflictive or misleading info here on xda.

2nd edit: with the posts that state waitit out, we are gonna get it, in my fightclub kinda world - it's just tactics for us to wait, let our emotions dissipate, and forget the whole thing - that is, if they decide not to release it. Thus, we get f*ck*d.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
There is a Nexus phone for AT&T as that is the one I am getting but you will have to pay retail for it from google play. It will not be in the store.
[Desire HD General] marl30:
So in other threads people were saying HTC said it's just a big misunderstanding that they did not say they were cancelling ICS update for the Desire HD, but cancelling updating with Sense 3.6. They claim ICS will be updated to the Desire HD with Sense 3.0. I won't believe it until I see it. I really could careless what version of Sense it gets released with, as long as it's released so the devs can have something to fix all the issues with their custom roms.
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
"So plz be patient

Probably we still get ICS hopefully"

You're not exactly convinced yourself though, are you?
[Desire HD General] P00t:
Woah... I never knew...

The price is reasonably affordable.

So much cheaper than other older smartphones.
[Desire HD General] P00t:
Here is my theory...

Htc doesn't want to lose money.

Htc wants customers to buy htc one series that comes with ics to make money.

Htc released ics for some devices to see if there is a little decline in their marketing businesss(maybe that happened. People are not buying htc one series?).

Statistically, if they release ics for many popular devices like ours,dhd, they will lose money because the customers won't buy htc one series.

Did that make any sense? Lol sorry for my nonsense...
[Desire HD General] amf66:
Except they lose customers. Lost customers equals lost money.
[Desire HD General] elpabel84:
I think that people buy one series not because of ICS but for good hardware, design and other stuff.
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
FFS, HTC could easily just strip out all the 3D effects in it's update and all the carousel effects, and revert the Rosie to a flat 2D one to save massive amounts of RAM on 3D widgets, and try to squeeze out all the RAM possible.

Really, everything else can't hold a candle to the launcher in RAM utilization, and that's the only possible reason why it would lag.
[Desire HD General] lrm537:
I'm not so sure, although it does sense. I would personally see ICS on the dhd, or any older phone, as an advertisement for what ICS can do, and what it's all about. Updating the dhd doesn't give us the new hardware or all of the best features of say the OneX. I know that of i was to get an ICS Sense ROM running on my phone as good and smooth as it could, it would only make me want the better, newer phone all the more. Whether i get it sooner or later shouldn't matter. It's all money in the bank for HTC. But that's me, I'm a bit of a whore when it comes to new stuff. I'll put out for anything.
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
ICS is still needed, even if it's not an OTA release and is only on HTCDev. HTC shouldn't just drop their commitments like that.

However, I do think that Sense 3.6 is too much for the Desire HD to handle.