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[Desire HD General] mail2eswar:
Yes these two are different devices and we cannot directly use the ROM from Desire S.

But how about Inspire? I think DHD is the international version of Inspire. I believe Inspire is getting ICS (Correct me if I am wrong). Can we use the inspire ROM for DHD?

How about Incredible S? Incredible S is having an 8 MP camera. Somewhere I have seen a thread that most of the 8MP sensors that HTC is using are from OmniVision. So can we use the drivers from Incredible S ICS ROM?

Sorry if my questions are too noob. I am no expert.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
No you are wrong. The inspire is not getting ICS at all. The last and only update it just got was a GB one.
[Desire HD General] andalism:
GB not jb
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Your right. Corrected
[Desire HD General] mail2eswar:
oh...Sorry.

What about Incredible S ICS Camera drivers?
[Desire HD General] walent:
You're*
[Desire HD General] Elemag:
And, LOL, it's not your job what kind of OS he uses! In the entire thread you're behaving as if people over here owe you (or HTC) something.

On the other side he may have "impaired user experience" with newer version of Wndows.

But after all, being a mod on this forum does not give you the right of final decision what is good and what is bad for other people.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Excuse me but what are you talking about
[Desire HD General] cdordon:
I think he was talking about Andy and his windows comment above

Sent from my Cellular Telephone, which can do magic things over the internet.
[Desire HD General] Andy:
I'm guessing your referring to me.

Its not my job anything, it was an attempt at humor, lightening the mood in what can at times be a serious thread.

Come on, seriously. No where do I act as if someone owes me anything. Quite the opposite.

And no where in here have I made a choice that affects other people. I merely pointed out my point of view as a Desire HD owner. Nothing to do with me being a moderator at all. Otherwise this thread would of been closed with a statement like.
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
now your the marketing department for I_L_I_J_A telling us he cant roll out Win7

just like HTC telling us we would have to quote you "impaired user experience"
[Desire HD General] I_L_I_J_A:
It is not my screenshoot if you took time to read it is from htc blog comments and I added "" :laugh:

I use Windows 7, but windows XP is supported till 2014 -

much much

more than Desire HD that was supported for only 8-9 months since release
[Desire HD General] Elemag:
You DO act like HTC are not under obligation of updating our phones after they officially announced to. In.the.entire.thread. You also DO LAUGH at people that are thinking of suing HTC for that false announcement. And given the fact that you're mod... it's just not right.

I should have put [sarcasm][/sarcasm] brackets instead of quotes over there, shouldn't I?
[Desire HD General] Andy:
HTC are under no obligation, otherwise they have to release it. Show me in HTC's ToS where it says they are obligated to update our handsets for a specified amount of time.

They gave a statement as to why. If you have a problem with that sue them. Frankly I do not care if you do or don't.

Show me laughing at someone. If I'm honest with you, I personally think you'd have to be a fool to think you can sue a company over a proposed software update that they do not have to provide and win. Does that mean I'm laughing? Can I not have opinions?

So just because I'm a moderator I cannot post my opinions because they conflict with yours?
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
I've been saying the same thing since day one. People even accused me of working for HTC. I laugh when I think about how passionate people are about cell phones.

Edit: passionate about "old cell phones".
[Desire HD General] bit1:
As has been said by many the devs don't want to use HTC ICS as their daily driver, they want the source code to build stable ROMS where everything works, no comprises. Think of a cooking a recipe and you have no idea what the ingredients are and have to just guess by taste versus how you can improve the recipe with the actual ingredients. Guessing you'll always be missing that little ingredient.
[Desire HD General] PDub11:
I really dont get why this thread is still open now.
[Desire HD General] Vortex969:
So you can post on it, lol
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
seems legit
[Desire HD General] sonnysoul:
The DHD is an old phone now, but it was only 12 months old when ICS came out. I wouldn't class a phone old, 12 months after release, especially when many people are tied down to 18 and 24 month contracts these days.
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Because if I closed it, I'd be accused of working for HTC and silencing the many thousands who want to voice their concerns. Even though XDA isn't the place to complain about things like that.
[Desire HD General] akshayathaps:
htc

well i have done what most of u sld have done or wld have already done....jellytime..... and htc says our fone cant handle ics..... :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
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its not that our phone cant handle it its about the phone being wiped with a OTA update and all customers loosing ALL their data
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
It a discussion thread nothing's wrong with it ,why close it? Hangingout threads are ok and not this?
[Desire HD General] Andy:
I never said there was anything wrong with this thread. Otherwise it would of been closed.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Add on the fact that we would be closing dozens of threads complaining about it. It just isn't worth it.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Well with the rate of advances in cell phones a phone is old the day it comes out lol
[Desire HD General] JediDevil:
Facebook Message from "HTCLoverZ"

+

Why they can't make it for our Desire HD??
[Desire HD General] steveh42:
don't give up hope yet

I was just sent this message today by AT&T on my inspire:

"AT&T Free Msg: AT&T is providing a critical software update that will enhance the performance of your HTC Inspire device. This software update is only available via WiFi. From your HTC Inspire, please connect & remain in WiFi coverage, then go to Settings > AT&T Software Update > Check for updates"

I attached a picture if you want to see the actual message. Because I'm running a custom rom I can't actually check what the update is, but since other people in my household have the same phone and aren't rooted, I'll be able to find out in a few hours. But hopefullly it is the ICS update we've been looking forward to. Just wanted to let you all know about this.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
That is the GB update ATT pushed out a few days ago
[Desire HD General] steveh42:
Ah, I see. Oh well.
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
Where's that quote from?
[Desire HD General] aidinvm_ultimate:
did any one see this news form htc???

http://pocketnow.com/2012/08/11/ics-...end-of-august/

http://androinica.com/2012/08/htcs-ice-cream-sandwich-builds-for-remaining-devices-will-be-ready-by-end-of-august/

what does it mean??!! same phone ...but no ics foe dhd only!!!!!

realy shame on u dear HTC !!!
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
i wouldnt take an htc statement seriouslly , htc has a real communication problem, would you be shocked if they cancel all updates tomorrow ? i thought so ,neither would i
[Desire HD General] Andoridista:
It's my first phone from them, I'm happy with it, but disappointed with what they r doin :/
[Desire HD General] geko1966:
Just a thought!!!

Anybody in here that knows a really good email a dress to spam HTC about our DHD???? i would gladly sent them an email twice a week asking them to release the source code for the DHD!!!

It is true....RB´s Jelly Time works smoothly.....on my DHD....still though allot to be fixed.....cam, Bluetooth, tethering, auto/manual carrier discovery, gps and so on!!!!!

WE NEED the F.....(sorry) source code!!!:rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
XDA doesn't condone spamming anyone. So no. Use the normal email.

And if it is really true that HTC has given up completely then all the work they had done is most likely gone.

We can scream and complain all we want but it will not make a diff.

All we can do is sit back and wait. Or dig in and try to fix it ourselves as RB is doing and why XDA is here.
[Desire HD General] massacreator:
We can boycott HTC

No! I disagree, we can boycott HTC. Why spend money on a product that has no support. We can talk toeveryone, to not buy HTC phones. Let the company know that we can make the noise. Client is money!
[Desire HD General] geko1966:
Point Taken Z!....then i will moderate my Lang. and just use multiple mails instead!:cool: and sending the amount of 2 emails a week....aint quite hitting the "spam" factor...ore is it???

As for how HTC is handling code that has been R.I.P., well i guess they do have the ICS source code laying around as a backup somewhere....by releasing it on HTC dev. they could make allot of Peopz happy.....cause then xda devs would have more...ore at least a bit more to go on!!!

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+1 on this!!!

...how many devices did HTC release between 2k11 and 2k12 so far??? help me here....i am getting old and can´t remember the exact amount.....but it is Xtreemly high....ranging from low tech smartphones to high tech smartphones. If they just think that they can release as many phones over the counter as possible without the proper updates.....they not only create customers, angry with HTC, they also give android OS a bad reputation...and kicking peopz over to IOs instead....and as i am an android Fan....i kind of dislike that!!!.....

Google should step in and demand that, if a device....free of all kind of again... patron me Crap!!! like the Sense could run on a clean Android OS the Rom...ore at least the source code should be released.......again...that is my personal opinion!!!!:cool:
[Desire HD General] fishballstrike:
I wish HTC can release RUU for those wish to update ICS and dont mind lost everything user rather than OTA update. That will be balance our choice
[Desire HD General] I_L_I_J_A:
Meanwhile on planet Mars - :D Curiosity is getting OTA uplate while htc can't update one of most popular android phones here on Earth due to "deleting our data" and they are quite happy deleting Desire S and Rhyme data with the same repartition that they don't want to do on Desire HD :eek:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/11/nasas-curiosity-rover-receives-long-distance-ota-update-brain/
[Desire HD General] Luke_23:
I'm using Primo-S 3.5 Android 4.0.3, Sense 4.0 since the camera fix was released. So I don't need the official RUU :)

For those who are interested:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1826903
[Desire HD General] mail2eswar:
When I check my Desire HD Partition info I found that it has around 560 MB of system partition (Correct me if I am wrong). How come this is not sufficient for HTC to install ICS with Sense 3.6?
[Desire HD General] cdordon:
For ICS and JB the partition needs to be 575 mb. At least that's what TiBu tells me my system ROM is, I'm on Jelly Bean.

Sent from my Cellular Telephone, which can do magic things over the internet.
[Desire HD General] l33ch0r:
That won't happen because some former DHD users will buy a HTC device anyway - just because whatever reasons ;)

Anyways, HTC doesn't need more damage, they're damaged enough - only a matter of time until there is no HTC anymore
[Desire HD General] akaSol:
Well it smells like HTC is blowing smoke up our collective orifice's. It's highly unlikely those who use this phone are not rooting if not they are close to end of contract.
[Desire HD General] sonnysoul:
31 from November 2010 to June 2012. 31 in 19 months, as I stated in this post which also has an attached list of all 31 phones:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29691473&postcount=1683

And as you say, this has put me off Android and I'm now an iPhone user. Sure it misses some features which Android has, but it just works. None of the lag and glitchy feel Android can have. There are also many collaborations with 3rd parties that Android doesn't have which make up for the missing features. One is the fact that it works flawlessly in my Scirocco, with the whole library and playlists available for music and phonebook for calling etc on my head unit, something that can't be said for my Desire HD. It's like I'm actually using the phone.

It's a shame too, because I had been a loyal HTC customer for years, from the Windows Mobile days and then owning 4 different HTC Android phones. Some of you won't be happy to hear this, but I don't regret going to iPhone. And for the record, I'm one of the IT literate users who was rooting Windows Mobile and making so many "fixes" in the registry, then again rooting on Android and using ADB shell commands to do numerous things. There's no need to with the iPhone (for me at least) because it does everything I want it to. Sure it misses features but what it does do, it does amazingly.

Anyway, the fact remains that HTC are digging themselves into a bigger hole with each device they release. There was talk of a new strategy with the One series, having only 3 phones this year. They've already swayed from that with the introduction of the Desire C, which there was no need for after releasing the One V, and now there's talk of an over-clocked One X. Just ridiculous. The One X will have the same fate as the Desire HD. They will be lucky to get any updates after JB.

P.S. There are a lot of people on here these days thanking moderators' comments for no apparent reason. Stop kissing ass; it won't get you anywhere.
[Desire HD General] omario8484:
Alright well great for u and your iPhone but yes the fact of the matter is that htc should just release the kernel source because after extensive testing they have to have some stuff...but as of your moderator comment...people thank them for cleaning threads that get OT and really need to get back on topic...so they deserve sometimes
[Desire HD General] stuffinthesky:
It's about time to close this, huh?
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
True many people are thanking moderators for no reason in this and other threads.

Some just give thanks even if they just make a comment on anything.
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
What does this has to do with ics discussion anyway?
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Nothing I'm just commenting on something I agreed with. And I'm not the only one going off topic here.
[Desire HD General] Jimps:
from google 36 mins ago - nothing but conflicting news

http://www.itproportal.com/2012/08/13/htc-promises-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-updates-this-month/
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
typo!? :D
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Really!?!? Ethier the writer is not updated or HTC changed their mind about updating HTC Desire HD which is unlikely.
[Desire HD General] Jimps:
agreed just adds to users anger and disgust at the company
[Desire HD General] Knight Rider UA:
HTC forward.............

Since HTC as producer of mobile phones in more growth, should end with the monopoly, of the branded phones, having just literally finish with the Nokia, Samsung, Blackberry, and even iPhone, generation, not only bring us better quality, presentation of that mobile...

sow is lack of achievement don't total control the market ... who have a HTC does not want another brand ... lol
[Desire HD General] FireBlast:
After this "Android 3.0 Gingerbread still remains the most popular OS," i think this site is out of trust.
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
do not want to go OT but even LG Optimus 2X seems to get an ICS, phone that came out at the end of 2010 and with 2.2...
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
The 2x was early 2011 and a dual core. Much faster than the DHD. I had one for a while but had to return it as it was shutting off all the time

Sent using xda-developers app
[Desire HD General] zunaedsaki:
Don't buy any android phone except nexus series because you won't get any update on tome.so go for iPhone.
[Desire HD General] c5satellite2:
Incredible S, and Desire S get ICS then there is no reason that DHD can't get it. HTC's excuses are just garbage at this point. Last time I checked, the Incredible S has less internal storage!
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
I'd buy another HTC if they were commissioned to release a Nexus phone.
[Desire HD General] omario8484:
I think that's kind of an immature comment..if that's just from this whole thing than yes very immature...the least u could be able to say is.to step away from HTC...but as android as a whole than that's kinda Idk...our phone got an update HTC didn't promise this ics one sodk why people are getting so upset even though its very controversial ...but be my guest and get an iPhone...as for vanilla android is very nice these days as I was trying out.rb's jelly time aokp and its buttery smooth so I'm on board with android for.a.while and prob HTC too
[Desire HD General] Blasphemer666:
HTC Hurting!

And, whoever thought that all the voices lamenting their decision to not go ICS on the DHD has no impact this could be a sign of things to come.....

http://www.mobot.net/htc-predicting-lousy-q3-results-45678
[Desire HD General] sonnysoul:
I don't think zunaedsaki's comment is immature. It's common knowledge that the massive number of Android devices is causing fragmentation. Look at all of the devices out there which aren't upgraded to the latest Android version, then take a look at the Nexus range.

The Nexus One was a slightly lower spec'd version of the HTC Desire, yet the Nexus One got 2.3 whilst HTC Desire owners were told they would not. Eventually they did, but lost HTC Sense.

Now take the Nexus S and the HTC Desire HD. Released only 2 months apart with very similar specs. The Nexus S already has Android 4.1 on it, whilst the HTC Desire HD is not even going to get Android 4.0.

Sure it may be HTC who are bumming out harder than the other manufacturers, but zunaedsaki's point about going for the Nexus range is justified. We can all decide to bin the DHD and get a shiny new One X, but we'll almost certainly come to the point where an Android OS update will not be provided for the device when it's perfectly clear that the device can easily handle it.

I though HTC had the right idea when news was that the One series (X, S, V) would be the only devices they release this year, but they've already gone back on that strategy. As long as HTC keep releasing so many phones, older devices which are more than capable, will always be neglected.

After the Desire HD was released, HTC released 31 phones in the space of 19 months (November 2010 to June 2012). In that same time there were only 2 Nexus devices released (Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus) whilst Apple released only 1 (iPhone 4S). HTC neglect their devices in regards to OS updates whilst Google with the Nexus range and Apple with the iPhones continue to keep old devices updated.

There's no rocket science involved, HTC need to open their eyes and come up with a simpler strategy. One entry model, one mid-range model and one flag-ship model each year. Only then can they provide the support for their devices, and only then will customers not be confused when buying HTC phones. They would save so much money from design and manufacture costs. What idiots do they have working on their strategies at the moment? Their strategists are the reason HTC are in decline, and you can only imagine the salaries they must be on too! Utterly ridiculous.
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-ceo...ucracy-improve-communication-be-more-decisive

from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
[Desire HD General] val4o88:
What Goes Around...Comes Around Congratulations HTC!!!
[Desire HD General] blade1198:
I believe it's too late for them to undo the damage they have created with Desire HD owners. Customer relationships seems to be a joke for them since a few of my relatives have already moved away from HTC. Totally agree, what comes around goes around. I , too will be moving away from HTC products.
[Desire HD General] benno4403:
I agree with most people here.. I lost faith in HTC because there support is a complete joke..just look at how many useless phones came out in the past 14 months.. I still hope us DHD users will get a fully functional jellybean or ICS Rom.. I don't understand why HTC would not just release the drivers so the devs can work around the camera issue.. other then that I love the community here! Devs doing a great job here!
[Desire HD General] snak3ater:
That camera issue is solved in Sense based Ics Roms.No need to look at HTC now.

If things are good then we might get jelly bean as well :laugh:
[Desire HD General] benno4403:
I hope so! Would love to have a fully working jellybean Rom on my DHD
[Desire HD General] arjunsharma.mad:
We already have a jellybean ROM. Jelly time by randomblame. An awesome ROM. Everything other than Bluetooth is working. Camera works fine with 720p capture. Been my daily ROM for 3 weeks now. Totally love. The battery life is amazing too. Get almost 15 hours on moderate use.
[Desire HD General] benno4403:
Cool... would like to try it but I am now running Android Revolution 6.3.2 Gingerbread with 4EXT recovery.

Could anyone tell me how to install the jellybean rom the right way? have searched for this everywhere but not sure how this needs to be done since I am coming from Android Revolution 6.3.2

Any help is really appreciated!

Ooh and bytheway, Do I need to change RIL and radio? I now use 12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M

Thanks a lot! :)
[Desire HD General] arjunsharma.mad:
You just have to download the ROM, place it on your SD card and then flash it using clockworkmod.

I'll recommend you to download the beta 7 ROM if you want Bluetooth.

But if you don't care about bluetooth download the latest beta 14.

Here is the link to his thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php...LLYTIME for DHD/Inspire4g - Beta 14 Available

P.s: I suggest you make a nandroid back up before you proceed just in case 2
[Desire HD General] benno4403:
So do I need to flash clockworkmod with my EXT4 recovery? will it replace my recovery from EXT4 to clockwork?

Is this all or am I missing something here? just want to make sure I don't ruin my phone ;)

Thanks in advance to anyone who can clear this up for me
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Just copy it to your SD card and do a full wipe and flash from recovery. 4ext is fine. It is what most people use. Check the threads last few posts on how to do a full wipe.

Sent from the Bat Cave
[Desire HD General] arjunsharma.mad:
You can flash the ROM using any recovery. Clockwork or 4ext.

The ROM doesn't include any Google apps but after you install the ROM you flash the Google apps using your recovery. Link to the Google apps flashable zip has been provided in the thread as well.

As precautionary measure make sure you make a nandroid back up. Just in case some thing goes wrong, you can go back to the present settings. [Not sure if 4ext has nandroid back up, as I use clockwork]
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Yes it has nandroid. 4ext is just an updated and improved version of the stock CWM

Sent from the Bat Cave
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
come on people dont give up on flooding htc, desire s just got kernel source released! wake this thread up
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Correct, finally ICS fun for us!
[Desire HD General] ricc@rd:
Excellent news guys! We can still have some hope to see kernel sources released also for desire hd! Keep asking for it to htc!! :D

Inviato dal mio HTC Desire HD With Beats Audio
[Desire HD General] gtramt1:
it is pretty much useless to hope that HTC will release anything new for DHD

they still have the same generic response for questions why not to release ICS. they don't give a sh** about thousands of users of DHD...

this is their new costumer policy - produce one expensive high-end cellphone in 10 cheapsh**s and maybe one update... nothing less, nothing more