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[Desire HD General] tonylee000:
aospX-1.0.0-BR4-DHD

Just tried this rom. Haven't found a problem (yet) only been using.it a day though. Camera works and video camera too. Clean and smooth and is the best ics build I've used so far!

So if your wanting ICS on your device, but you need everything to work, try this rom.

Thought I'd put my 2c in as I'm really impressed with this build.

Nb it is classed as a beta
[Desire HD General] comio:
Bye bye sens

Bye bye sense!

Welcome ICS AOKP!

ciao

luigi
[Desire HD General] markjankovic:
Cha Cha - is that a phone? :)
[Desire HD General] KriwilAbiz:
Oops.. I'm missing something.

Will try that one ASAP.

LOL
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
I will be in a Nexus subforum, running the latest and feeling sorry about the HTC customers who will be screwed again :D
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
hamdir, can you give us any new news about the progress? are they abandoned DHD or are they still doing something?
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
Getting ics from HTC may be not really good idea,go to evo 3d thread you will see that after long months of people waiting and HTC testing ,HTC forgot to test Bluetooth ,so Bluetooth was not working after the update. It took an xda dev to fix HTC mistake or gross mistake given that Bluetooth is widely used so should have been tested
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
maybe HTC could have fix that!? of course after some time probably...
[Desire HD General] Kaducey:
Any news regarding official update?
[Desire HD General] janarp:
YES! No update... :S
[Desire HD General] dipeshpp:
stock ics

This might not be the right place to ask but is it possible to control volume up/down in stock ics roms like aospx using touch. My volume down is non-functional so have to bring up the volume bar using volume up and then reduce using touch(on sense rom).
[Desire HD General] rfkw:
google for a volume control app.
[Desire HD General] brada1983:
Yeah! You are right this isn't a place to ask this! Use the Q&A section for that.

But since I'm a nice guy I can tell you that JellyTime has that option.

:highfive:
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
latest info that I got: "I have checked with the HTC Development team, unfortunately the HTC Desire HD will not get the ICS update."

hamdir, do you confirm?

so, bye bye HTC for me...
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
hey sorry guys i was asked by the mod not to share misleading/incorrect information

that's bad for the Evo but ICS for Desire S, incredible S, Sensation XL and Sensation were all major boost to the device

HTC should at the very least, release sources on HTC dev, keep pressuring
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Actually, I have a DS, no official kernel source yet, but with our kernel 3.0 we managed to fix touch to focus and 720p recording. You don't actually need the source to fix it ;)
[Desire HD General] KriwilAbiz:
Wow.. that's great news. Yes we also have JB with touch to focus. :victory:

I hope every hardware in our DHD working properly. If possible, in a short period -- eagerly waiting fully working ICS and JB. Official source will definitely ease dev effort and also cut the hour they need.
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
But can you please say is it going to be positive or negative?
[Desire HD General] joooe:
All I know is that with this ICS hype, GB and CM roms developing just stopped.

:confused:

Like we are all waiting for some kind of savior. There were so many good roms based on CM, what happened?

And why are there tons of buggy, incomplete ICS based roms out there? What's the point of having something that simply can't be reliable for the average user?
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
typical mess that happens once a device looses official support :mad:
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
And why do we have to keep developing on GB and CM?!? Aren't those already very stable?!?
[Desire HD General] joooe:
They were already stable a long time ago, and that didn't stopped new custom roms to come out.

What happens to DHD Development forum if ICS is never released? It ends for good?
[Desire HD General] cstayton:
No ICS Dev for DHD is not dead, go here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1531218 you will see that we as a DHD community are still quite active and very much alive
[Desire HD General] joooe:
That was a somewhat unnecessary opportunity for publicity.

I don't know for that rom, but for IceColdSandwich for example, which is miles ahead the rom you've shown, the development reached an halt. Camera not 100% working, MMS not working, some bugs, etc.

Every single ICS rom has this problems.

Without the kernel, devs will just reach a dead end in ICS.
[Desire HD General] cstayton:
NO not at all, YOU made the statement about the ICS community dying or going away I merely am pointing out that as a community we are still alive and kicking, not just us but virtuous, beatmod and many others as well.
[Desire HD General] cstayton:
and also the two roms are fundementally different one is AOSP the other is a sense ROM and with camera and video working and wifi and a 3.0 kernel (in our upcoming release in a few days) rather than bash someone for pointing out the communitiies still live maybe you should read through some other posts and forums first so that you arent so drastically misinformed.
[Desire HD General] joooe:
What I said was "What happens to DHD Development forum if ICS is never released? It ends for good?"

So if HTC doesn't release the kernel (ICS official rom), what happens to the Development forum in a near future? ICS custom roms halts because there's nowhere further to go and CM and GB are already on halt.
[Desire HD General] cstayton:
ok, look there is a 3.0 kernel for DHD and it works very well source has been released for the kernel and many many DHD ICS roms are using it now thanks to Virtuous teams diligant efforts in porting for the DHD as well as other devices.

and what makes you think LC quit deving ICS for DHD? that forum is still very active and he does still continue to dev for the DHD.

and a 3.0 kernel for sense released by HTC is not a compatible kernel for AOSP Roms that comes from google not HTC
[Desire HD General] joooe:
Either way, my point was if the developers are not in a holy grail crusade regarding ICS on DHD, besides their efforts.
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
Sure ICS development has slowed, a lot of people are coming to the end of their contracts and moving on, but Jelly Bean development is accelerating, as stated earlier a working 3.0 kernel is up and running and camera is on the way to being fixed, we'll survive whether or not source code is released.
[Desire HD General] arjunprabhu:
so much for the 'elevate' membership. Total nonsense. Whats the point in having such a group, and passing on correct information?
[Desire HD General] q:):
This is great news, right? :thumbup: I've been reading a stack of threads and this sounds unreal. Any progress with this? Which Roms might get this working soon?
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
http://pocketnow.com/2012/08/07/htc-is-sinking-they-need-more-than-just-innovation/
[Desire HD General] q:):
Good read. One thing though. In Australia, HTC did the exclusive carrier thing and the DHD was only available on a contract with Vodafone. Huge mistake. Vodafone equated to Vodafail.
[Desire HD General] steffchef:
DHD...simply still one of the best :o
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
DHD is gone from Vodafone list - http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-08082012/
[Desire HD General] c5satellite2:
This has gotten to the point of Class Action Lawsuit. If anyone here is an attorney or knows one, please bring them up to speed and see if they are interested. Since the Incredible S and Tbolt will get ICS and our hardware is very similar, and the fact HTC advertised it would be getting ICS, we definitely have a case. I wouldnt have gotten a DHD if HTC hadn't advertised the official update. I have been defrauded and I want my money back. I'm sure there are many others who have been defrauded by HTC and wouldn't have gotten a DHD in the last 6 months or so.

Time to assemble. Class Action Time!
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Good luck with that.

If you feel you have been defrauded, contact HTC or the retailer your purchased the handset off and state that the sole feature that made you buy a 12+ month old handset was a tentative update page that stated an update to ICS was in the works.

Class Action Lawsuits suit lawyers not consumers, IF you ever won (big if), what you'd get back would not compare to what you'd spend on the handset, if you bought it outright.
[Desire HD General] rageeed:
Too bad a former former flagship phone isn't supported after a bit more than a year but hey at least there are a few devs that keep us up to date
[Desire HD General] c5satellite2:
Fully understand that class suits profit attorneys heavily, but a message needs to be sent. What they have done is fraud, bait and switch, false advertising, etc. We have to put a stop to this crap, not limited to this instance either. Enough is enough.
[Desire HD General] Andy:
So you get to court and HTC as defence, loads your Desire HD with the software update that wipes your data and cripples your phone in terms of usability (the reasons that they say were behind the update being cancelled).

Who wins?
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
must be American

cant read

ready to sue at the drop of a hat
[Desire HD General] I_L_I_J_A:
I don't know why you feel flagship DHD got (very small) 12months support. It got way less - released October10 and (on DHD last update) 2.3.5 Gingerbread was released July 11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gingerbread_(operating_system)#Android_2.3.x_Gingerbread

So way less than 1 year support on 2 years standard contract for flagship htc phone

No wonder investors are jumping sinking ship and htc stock is at 50% value from start of the year
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
You know I see all these people saying it was a flagship device and to be honest that doesn't mean alot with the way devices are updating.

Anyone that buys a device based in a software update is shooting themselves in the foot. No device is for sure gonna get an update. If updates are what matters to you then get a Nexus.

As for the law suite, good luck with that. Ill tell ya right now no lawyer would take it on as HTC is fully in their rights to change their mind on what software a device is updated to. If it doesn't pass their quality control they have all legal rights to put an end to it under their TOS that no one reads.
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
zelender is spot on the money, you shouldnt make a purchase on the hope that a software upgrate is coming people need to get their priorities right rather then make judgements off miss information
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
What you say may be true but choosing to say a update will come and then cancel it with a lie when we know our phone can run android 4. And a lame excuse won't make thier costumers happy or get them to buy their newest phones (although some will do it anyway). Only time can tell if HTC will crash or not.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
While what is you say is true for us, you have to remember we are the 1% of its users. What the update would entail would upset the masses. Not to mention while we may think Sense 4 and ICS runs great. They may not.

Time will tell. They need to be more developer friendly and i think HTC will be fine. If they make another Nexus ill be first in line to scope it up. But I am done with Sense and any phone that is not pure Android.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Yeah but we still got family and friends who we will not recommend HTC to but still you right, we aren't many in their eyes
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
True Im the tech of my family an friends. I probably influence around 15people on what technology to get be it laptops phones etc. But if a friend or family member asked me what phone to get. If an HTC phone met their needs I would have no problems recommending one to them. Just recently got my mother and sisters an HTC one s. They could care less about updates. They just want a phone they can text,call and browse the web. Plus got the one s for $60 each including taxes. Much cheaper than if I would have gotten them say the gs3
[Desire HD General] I_L_I_J_A:
From htc blog comment:

"Some new information about Desire S.

On August 20 HTC will release an official update for developers which anyone can download from the HTC's dev site. The update containes final version of ICS 4.0.4 and Sense 3.6. No FOTA update is been released because the update requires repartitioning of the internal memory.

Got form youhtc .RU"

SO WHY THE .... DON'T THEY RELEASE UPDATE FOR DESIRE HD THE SAME WAY
[Desire HD General] sandeep.mjs:
Android 4.0 cancelled to HTC Desire HD

Already knew this will happen
[Desire HD General] I_L_I_J_A:
Desire HD and Desire S are the same phone (desire s has smaller screen BUT same resolution) and s has less rom

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3468&idPhone2=3776

so htc thinks desire s users are smart enough to backup their phone but desire hd users are not??? :eek:

what happened to htc pr bs: "For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not."
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
Is that true??? In that case HTC has been lying big time about the DHD.
[Desire HD General] mail2eswar:
We know it all the time.
[Desire HD General] kalbasnik:
Yes, but If that is true how they will be updating the Desire S then it's even more complete nonsense about not updating DHD!!!
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
What happens if I taket the stock Desire S rom, change the ro.build.product to Dhd instead of Desire S and smack it on my phone? Will it boot?

Because everyone is saying that Desire s and dhd is the same phone, then surely the rom and kernel must work with dhd right?
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
dont do it it wont work ! cause the rom was designed for desire s ,drivers designed for desire s
[Desire HD General] val4o88:
I know that DS and DHD are the same phones!
[Desire HD General] golf12:
Similar but not same different size ram and different camera plus screen size means different drivers. They have to do the same for the DHD now because it's the same excuse they gave us what a waste of time not to mention getting bad publicity.
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
than go and flash desire s roms its fulll of ICS in their thread GO ON WITH MY BLESSING
[Desire HD General] getaceres:
Whatever they do, they were going to be caught once they release something for Desire S since there is no excuse to update one phone and not another. So please HTC, don't be so cynical (just to not say liars). Just say the truth: we are not updating Desire HD because it's an old phone and we don't want to spend resources in it.
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
You just helped me to prove my point.

Everyone here is upset that Desire S got their ICS update because they say that DHD an DS is the same phone. Well if they were you got basicly flash the ICS rom on a DHD and it would work. But NO , as atrako1973 just pointed out you can't because they have DIFFRENT drivers therefore they are NOT the same phone. In conclusion it is likely that HTC are having drivers problem with DHD and can not release the update due to the driver issue or something.

I am not defending HTC or anything and I really think they made a big misstake not telling the customers what is wrong. But please don't say that the DS and DHD are the same phone if they are not
[Desire HD General] Mikenif:
They said it was partition problems and updating the phone would mean reformatting and cleaning all data.

And i can understand their decision as the dev community is just a small percentage of their users.

Would be nice of them if they released the source tho:fingers-crossed:
[Desire HD General] ABorgh:
It would , I can't deny that. Maybe the partition story is a cover up for something else. It is easy to blame it on that ;)

Anyhow if we don't get the update we are not in that deep S**T.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
We'd never know, but I damn hope HTC consider releasing 4.1, as technically it is only a minor update.

The main reason HTC won't probably release it, is further sense fragmentation and work to coincide.and develop 2 sense versions.
[Desire HD General] brada1983:
Yeah you are probably right, but thats why we have our devs... :laugh:
[Desire HD General] bosas200:
I think that Desire hd can handle 4.1 better then nexus s and we will get update.

But if we dont they will be lazy bastards :D
[Desire HD General] golf12:
Ics is the last update HTC will give the DesireHD they promised 18month support and have done so, but from what I've heard jb is to be a small update so may not need to worry about a kernel to get it on the HD correct me if I'm wrong. My 2 cents
[Desire HD General] middlep1:
Wishful thinking, I think the 4.0.x update will be the last official major update for the DHD as it is nearing 24 months since it's original launch and now 2 generations behind.

If you want to things official we'll have to look towards the HOX, HOS, and HOV devices.

But we won't be left out there will always be a dev or 5 here to put a little magic back into our ageing DHD's.

bring it on!
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
It's 4.0.4 ;)

Yes, my thoughts exactly, JB should be easy to port enough, since we have the One V which has identical specs to us..
[Desire HD General] middlep1:
Problem is the drivers which aren't compatible between the 2 devices. Hopefully 4.0.4 and 4.1 will be so closely linked the drivers can be ported from 4.0.4 and the devs can get a full feature 4.1 ROM working for us.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
AFAIK, the kernel from the One V won't work for us. But ROM ports are almost perfect.

Before we even had kernel 3, we had One V ports which worked very well!
[Desire HD General] HerX:
Because of this: http://youtu.be/upHebizA6TA :D:D
[Desire HD General] howlingmoon12:
looks like my backup is getting bumped to ICS, just hope that Sense won't cause it to lag. Been using it since my Skyrocket died a couple of days ago, let's just say still an amazing phone, but Sense is way too laggy
[Desire HD General] springy:
I agree that there should be no excuse, and I can code...

There is no excuses, they should be able to port ROM's across within a month or 2. The Dev community can do it porting ROMS quickly, why can't HTC.

The problem is that HTC is a big company. Lots of people work on software and there is all dependencies within the company in order to get things done, therefore lead to longer delays. Also I bet they are trying to make new stuff as well which means less focus on other older less profitable project, i.e. updating older devices.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
I'm not insulting devs work, but do you realise HTC builds everything from scratch? The kernel, sense etc.

Devs here do a great job, but they aren't actually building anything from start.

Do you think it is easy to build a kernel just like that? That is why its taking a while.
[Desire HD General] mramerj:
The Shift of Desire HD to Android 4.0.3 (ICS) is pushed back to early August 2012.

h**p://android.sfr.fr/previsions-27-06-12
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
No, the update it 4.0.4.

How reliable is this site?
[Desire HD General] chrisund123:
Presumably thats SFR's rollout date, not HTC's release of the build?
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Almost certain in unreliable. Desire S has already got the OTA in some places, and it has Android 4.0.4, not 4.0.3. The website seems unreliable.
[Desire HD General] nicoboum:
It's SFR branded ROM date, not HTC's.

So it's not that it's reliable or not, it's that it's irrelevant here :)
[Desire HD General] techlogik:
Coding has nothing to do with it. If we can't get a kernel with drivers from HTC, coding really gets you only partially the way there and a device with functions that don't work.

I really think it is just part of their plan to have people stop being patient and go buy a HTC One device and ditch the Inspire. Gotta keep the revenues and replacement cycle moving forward!

And I'm about to just jump to an HTC One X and be done with it. Better hardware and device than the HD and Inspire. And things are going to start to take off with the development soon, while the HD and Inspire will go the way of the Nexus One.
[Desire HD General] springy:
So from Nov till now you think that it is acceptable to take that long to patch up the kernel? I know the kernel is hard work but to take that long?? That I don't agree on. Obviously they are putting more resources on new devices.

Not sure but I do hope jelly bean is on the main kernel release. Think 3.4 now has all the bits of android including the power management which was missing from 3.3. Then OEM do not need to folk the kernel any more which hopefully means faster updates...
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Ok guys now while I agree with you guys on the updates (reason am going nexus from now on) You have to remember. The updates the Nexus gets are alot different then the ones the OEM release. The nexus is built to run on the open source drivers that come from the AOSP code. OEM carrier devices are not. They use their own closed source drivers which all need to be rebuilt for each release. Then add in the fact that HTC and other OEM have to recode the system to use their own closed framework files and jar files. Then add in the kernel changes per device. This all takes alot of time. Then add in the fact that yes they are always workingon the next big thing so older projects take a backseat.

Now I see people saying I will just go with the HOX. What makes you think that is will not be the same come android 4.3 or 5.0?

We were never told that any phone would be updated when it is bought. We buy them as is. XDA has always done a great job at bringing updates to phones that never saw them officially, hell most of us dont even use an official based rom. Instead we prefer the AOSP based roms. So other then the kernel source code that is needed (which we should see about 90 days after the official release) it is not much use screaming about updates.

I also see those saying that the DHD/Inspire will work better for the AOSP update. This is wrong. The hardware in the Nexus was built to use the open source drivers as this phone was not. While yes they work they do not compare to the drivers that were built for this device. Dont buy it? Well take a week and compare things like BT strength, Signal strength, Wifi strength and the range of them all and compare them from a DHD based rom to an AOSP based rom. You will see what I mean.
[Desire HD General] golf12:
Poor cover up story when they release desire s update (IF) they do as the EXCUSE is the same and the desire s is still a lower spec phone
[Desire HD General] I_L_I_J_A:
And what about this from htc blog comment:

" AhmedEgypt • 20 minutes ago

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this screenshot is an e-mail has been sent to me by HTC when i asked about the ICS release for both Rhyme and Desire S

the update won't be via OTA (Over The Air) but it will be RUU (Rom Update Utility).

this Rom will be available at HTC developer web site in 20 August 2012.

but unfortunately this Rom will erase all Data stored in the internal memory, details in the pic. "

HTC IS BUNCH OF LIERS!!! THEY WILL NUKE DATA ON Desire S and Rhyme but not on Desire HD - they think Desire S and Rhyme users can save sms/phonebook but htc considers DesireHD users stupid We gave up to 650 Euro for Desire HD and they consider us stupid to enable Google backup (1 click option).
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Looks like you should worry about upgrading Windows, before you worry about your phone ;)
[Desire HD General] snak3ater:
Lol :p