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[Desire HD General] AnumEndzeit:
...looks like many people from HTC have confirmed it and it is undeniably true... at least there's hope. Google translate (very rough):

Transcript of conversation

please wait some time to find a wizard ...

You are in a queue.

You are in relationship with Sara.

Sara: Hey Simonas How I can help?

Simonas Snarskas: Hello,

Can you give any information Desire HD ICS update is canceled?

Sara: Is this the first time you contact us?

Simonas Snarskas: yes

Sara: the desire to one day HD will not receive ICS MSIE

Snarskas Simonas: If you are 100% sure that is not updated?

Sara: We have received information aurjoud'hui

Snarskas Simonas: this is very bad. Is there a way to send this link to HTC to people?

Simonas Snarskas: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-us-ics/

Sara: You can go to a very large number of signatures, and at the end of this e rexemple week, informing me that his back if the hierarchy

Snarskas Simonas: thanks for the help

Sara: at your service

Sara: Do you have other questions at this time?

Snarskas Simonas: Monon, thanks

Simonas Snarskas: * No

Sara: Thank you for contacting us, hope you have a good day.
[Desire HD General] bangduck:
HTC Germany say that we dont get the update too
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
I think we can close the thread now. Pretty obvious its not going to happen.
[Desire HD General] marl30:
I agree. Seems our only hope of getting a fully working ICS on our phones is with devs here.
[Desire HD General] XTitaniumX:
Just sent an e-mail to confirm with official H.T.C... Not that blog.. They said this..

9:07 AM (13 hours ago)

to me, me

Dear John,

Thank you for contacting HTC.

Dear John, following the various rumours posted to tech news sources and social networks over the past 72 hours about a potential cancellation of the ICS update for Desire S and Desire HD, we can now confirm that this is not the case.

We remain committed to providing customers with the latest software updates when possible. As such, we are pleased to confirm we are still on schedule to deliver an Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for both the HTC Desire HD and Desire S.

Please be patient and stay tuned for our new ICS updates.

Respect & Regards,

Sincerely, Suzi

HTC Technical Support Team
[Desire HD General] DirtyHennessy:
Too bad they are not gonna release ICS for DHD.

There may be some hope for people from the netherlands and belgium. Marc Moons (HTC manager benelux) is trying to set up

a One-X swap for DHD users. twitter.com/markmoons/status/227359047463096320. Count me in as interested :D.
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
Became reply from HTC Germany about my email request. Same Info, no ICS :(
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
German:

Vielen Dank, dass Sie uns bezüglich Ihres HTC DESIRE HD kontaktiert haben.

Sie fragen, warum das HTC DESIRE HD das Update auf Android 4.0 nicht mehr erhalten wird.

Nach ausführlichen Tests hat HTC entschieden, dass die jetzige Version von HTC Sense mit Android für den Betrieb auf dem HTC DESIRE HD am benutzerfreundlichsten ist. Wenn neue Software-Versionen für vorhandene Modelle in Betracht gezogen werden, sind verschiedene Faktoren entscheidend. Schlussendlich steht jedoch das Benutzererlebnis an erster Stelle. Wir entschuldigen uns für die Verwirrung die dieser Entscheid bei unseren Kunden verursacht haben könnte.

Es tut mir leid, dass ich Ihnen hier keine besseren Nachrichten mitteilen kann. HTC legt grossen Wert auf die Nutzerfreundlichkeit seiner Produkte und der Entscheid fiel erst nach ausgiebigen Tests. Wir bedauern, Sie in diesem Punkt enttäuscht zu haben.

Google-Translation:

Thank you for contacting us regarding your HTC DESIRE HD.

You ask why the HTC DESIRE HD will no longer receive the update to Android 4.0.

After extensive testing, HTC has decided that the current version of HTC's Sense with Android to run on the HTC DESIRE HD on user-friendly. When new versions of software being considered for existing models consider various factors are crucial. Ultimately, however, the user experience is paramount. We would apologize for the confusion that this decision has caused to our customers.

I'm sorry that I can tell you this is no better news. HTC puts great emphasis fell on the user friendliness of its products and the decision only after extensive testing. We are sorry to have disappointed you in this regard.
[Desire HD General] c5satellite2:
How can they justify these lies if the tbolt is getting it?

We need to get engadget and gizmodo to write about these outright lies.
[Desire HD General] JmaSantos:
I deleted my HTC Sense account, and I ask all the DHD owners to do the same.

With this action, HTC could count the lost users they have in future !
[Desire HD General] Karish1989:
Good for you :)

Have a nice evening :)
[Desire HD General] JmaSantos:
Thank you.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
+1

I deleted my one too. HTC have lost another costumer for not releasing ICS for our devices when other lower spec phones get it.
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
This sense Service never worked correct. Deleted it long Time ago.
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
U still trust them? More false hopes. My psych is devastated. I gonna see a shrink I think.
[Desire HD General] AmbientMike:
I wonder if they'll release the kernel and source at least to get some decent user-builds of ICS?
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
Great idea, we all should contact them to max the chance to be heard.
[Desire HD General] michaelopolis:
tech

to be devils advocate,, just thinking out loud here.

I feel most dhd users are not tech orientated and more people would be annoyed with using the new software.

For example

I have a friend with a sensation and she had not changed anything about the home screen layout since she got it a year ago... And she didn't know how to change anything either.

I'd say she be annoyed and bit lost with sense 3.6

I think HTC knows the vast amount of its customers are like this.

But I do think HTC were wrong to announce the update and then cancel it now,, in fact I wrote them an email complaining and that I might course a different manufacturer for my next phone upgrade.
[Desire HD General] Wekkel:
I can relate to your thesis, that's why I am only concerned with the release of the 3.0 kernel for DHD.
[Desire HD General] scaryshark:
Well we can stop being so concerned now...

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisch1974/status/227517454207815680#

Virtuous infinity will be released soon, but probably not on XDA...

:D
[Desire HD General] scaryshark:
Virtuous infinity is now available to download:

http://files.virtuousrom.com/multi/infinity/rom/

I guess they'll put out an official confirmation soon but for those who can't wait!
[Desire HD General] l33ch0r:
That's the one where 720p recording and tethering are working? That'd be awesome :)

Gesendet von meinem Desire HD mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD General] rzgomba:
Downloading as we speak
[Desire HD General] rodenti:
It looks like Virtuous Infinity has been announced here but has lots of stuff still not working.

Here is the blurb for the DHD:

Desire HD (ace), Desire Z (vision), Inspire 4G

- When phone goes into sleep you need to make a long press of the power button to wake it up

- Voice Search doesn't work

- Audio doesn't work in some apps

- Camcorder only works with disabling sound in the video settings
​

Plus the overall not working:

Not Working

- Rosie: Folder isn't perfectly resized in landscape

- Weather: Weather animation in landscape mode broken

- Weather :Full screen weather animation broken

- Camera: Not all effects are working

- Please have a look in the special device section

- You tell us
​

But lots of stuff working:

Working

- Camera

- HW Acceleration

- WiFi

- Bluetooth

- Mobile Data, SMS, MMS & Voice Calls

- GPS

- Sensors

- Audio

- USB Storgage (No 3rd Party App Required)

- FM Radio
​
[Desire HD General] janarp:
yeppp main stuff working... =)
[Desire HD General] scaryshark:
IGNORE:

There's a list of bugs on Virtuous' "other" forum (linking is against the rules but it's not hard to figure out ;) )

There are a couple of bugs and you should definitely check out their description as it should be on their own website before complaining but it definitely looks like a daily driver!

Edit: rodenti got to it first!

Edit 2: chrisch1974 has now posted it in the development section! Check it out!

Sorry for the off topic spamming butcim pretty sure people who want ics are interested in this ;)
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
I can totaly understand if that's (perhaps) one of the reasons of why HTC decided to cancel the ICS update for DHD, but in other hands they've already know, there are "geeks" community like XDA or any other Android community forums, so in my opinion, if they don't wanna release the update thorugh OTA, at least they can release the update through channel such as HTCDev, so only people who understand how to mess with their phones software could obtain it and let those "average joe" users stays with current software, I'm sure they don't really care about any update too, as long as their phones still serves their daily needs well.
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
HTC should make the upgrade available, even if it means just stripping out the testing ROM debug/logging stuff, making it into release ROM, and putting it on HTCDev along with source code.
[Desire HD General] evronetwork:
Nope it won't help a bit, sorry about that but thats the truth

we need DHD camera driver

P.S. ..if only DHD had all the hardware drivers open source... :victory:
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
I wish people like you would know what they are talking about before they post.. because it works. Now just stop. Because its annoying...and off topic.
[Desire HD General] evronetwork:
works?!? ..proof? ..oh yeah there isn't any because it doesn't

So will keep waiting for official ICS in order to have a really stable ICS and afterward to get a custom faster ICS Rom :D
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
Actually you can go check because it works for multiple people! So stop being an asshole, and go ****ing look! And its working for my friend sitting next to me. and I am talking to you on it right now!

Yes there are problems but hey,its the first alpha Rom.
[Desire HD General] leopardtag:
ICS and JB works in DHD! The only main problem is the camera. We don't need the HTC to release the official rom we just need the drivers. This community have a lot of good people that make, build, find, research custom roms better than anything else. I still feel confident that we will have a fully working JB by the end of the year on DHD. The betas are already "out in the wild".
[Desire HD General] dhd1802:
woohoo another half working rom! cant wait!!!

after all the teasers :laugh:
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
Camera definitely working for me with Desire HD on new Virutous Infinity ROM, seems im one of the lucky ones :)
[Desire HD General] evronetwork:
Of course JB and ICS work ..but nowhere near to give it to your mom for example or even better your grandpa, so its not exacly stable-everyday-use. I'm saying about HTC official release to "steal" the camera driver :P ..of course the job can be done if HTC release all the drivers into public but we know that this ain't gonna happen anytime soon or ever ;}

@trh1341 watch your language dude, I'll stop beeing an asshole as long as you stop staying BS ..fair deal? So again ICS and JB are not fully functional

Do you have ANY idea what stable-rock solid-fully functional-all specs working mean? no? ..I can point you to some links, just pm me. (Btw all ICS and JB releases of DHD are alpha and even if some roms are named beta ..they are still alpha's as beta is a software which is "fully functional" [<--key point] but have some minor bugs that are not so important but need to be fixed in the gold(final) release)

P.S. Be happy people and express your opinion, but you don't have to be hard if your opinion is not the same with someone else's. Btw its very nice that the camera at least works.. even if its only 480p or hangs sometimes to some people ..its better than nothing.

Exactly my point mate, half-working rom(pre-alpha or alpha ..not even close to beta, no matter what some people say)

Try 720p and get back with a reply..
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
The next person that feels the need to swear will find themselves on the other hand of my ban hammer. I hope that is clear enough.
[Desire HD General] evronetwork:
Loud and clear ;}

So people watch out, watchdogs are over us (kidding, don't be offended :P)

(hope no one make me angry :fingers-crossed: )

P.S. I just read that we will not get official ICS!! (First it was a rumor.. then HTC said that they actually would release the ICS and that the rumors are false and now it says official that the ICS for DHD is cancelled!

The Dark Knight may I swear a little bit? :P

sources? you can google it but you can try these:

http://www.gsmarena.com/android_40_ics_is_officially_a_no_go_for_htc_desire_hd_-news-4549.php

http://tech2.in.com/news/smartphones/no-ics-for-htc-desire-hd/330312

http://www.mobile88.com/news/read.a...20724134924&phone=htc_desire_hd_no_ics_update

The official reason of HTC is:

“After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD. When we consider new versions of software, we weigh a number of factors, but ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor. We apologize for any confusion this change may have caused our customers.”
[Desire HD General] PDub11:
We already know this. Been posted a million times.

I still think this thread needs to be closed now. Hearsay, rumours, theories and all nonsense statements.
[Desire HD General] vvojtek:
HTC again do the bull****.... for me... I'll never buy anything from this company... I know this the business decision desire hd has quiet old... almost 2 years... but we have hardware to run ICS smoothly... so...

I think switch to Apple :>
[Desire HD General] bragh:
I think the bad thing they've done is that they say all the time that we will get ICS and near before the end they say "no".

Think about the sgs, it has not become ics either, but that's not that big problem because samsung never said they would get it.

just my 2 cents.
[Desire HD General] evronetwork:
You and me, I bought this phone 7-8 months ago because I was hearing that htc has great customer support but.. this is lame

P.S. Although Apple is out of question, I just hate the name :p
[Desire HD General] Yankee_VB:
Root or not to root?

Dear all,

It is my first post here so I do not have any experience with either programming or flashing my HTC Desire HD. I am very disappointed with HTC's decision not to release the long awaited ICS for my device. However, after researching a little bit I found this wonderful place and I would like to ask you a couple of questions concerning the installation of ICS/Jelly Bean on my device.

1. Is it worth waiting for realiable Jelly Bean ROM?

I found some ICS versions that look quite promising. Nevertheless, if there is a new stable release of Jelly Bean by August, I would rather wait for it (i.e. without installing ICS). Personally, I prefer a clean Android version without Sense which I think slows down my old DHD... :

- ICS:

IceColdSandwich - 8.4 - AOKP

- Jelly Bean:

JellyBean - JELLYTIME for DHD/Inspire4g

or

Virtuous Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha1

2. What are the consequences of using a custom ROM?

I have read some pros and cons of flashing my device, however I am not quite sure about some consequences. For example:

- Can I install new apps through the Play Store/Android Market like with the original Android with HTC Sense?

- Can I update all my apps through the Play Store/Android Market like with the original Android with HTC Sense?

- Will also the Play Store update itself?

- Can I see installed apps in Play Store through my PC's web browser? (i.e. play.google.com)

I am sure that all my questions have been answered at least a thousand of times, so could you send me at least a link where I can find some answers to my questions?

Thanks a million!
[Desire HD General] AA--92:
2. Yes you can install apps from play store like normal
[Desire HD General] CSL00:
Virtuous Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha1

This one is ICS as well, not JB.

As for the consequences nothing changes (unless you install an alpha or beta release which won't be fully functional) and your phone should be faster, smoother and have better battery life (most cases from my experience ;) ).
[Desire HD General] Yankee_VB:
Thank you! And do you think I should wait for JB? I looked at "IceColdSandwich" ICS discussion and the first post is from January 2012 while the final version was released in July 2012... I am not experienced enough, but adjusting a custom JB ROM might also take such such a long time?

Is there a discussion around here which ICS version is "the best for individual needs of DHD owners"? I am searching for a clean, fast, secure and reliable ROM... Is not that too much??? :)

I do not know how to chose one from this list: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1610483

THX
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
I would thoroughly recommend aospX by existz.
[Desire HD General] Yankee_VB:
But existz says it is still beta. Is that a big problem?
[Desire HD General] Galaen:
It runs very nicely.
[Desire HD General] stefan8bc:
Also on DHD?
[Desire HD General] Galaen:
From what I've read, yes.
[Desire HD General] PDub11:
Existz rom has been the most stable for me out of the DHD and has ahd the best battery life.

icecoldsandwich was too unstable for me.

But then again i like a stock aosp ROM anyway as i dont play round with much, just get the performance right and battery life right.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
existz is one of the most disciplined dev's around here (well, my opinion) and quite helpful as long as you follow his rules that are in the first page.

I would say start of with a GB rom if you want a stable one. Familiarize yourself with the differences. Once you know your way around your phone and xda, jump onto an ICS since most of them are somewhat buggy and you may feel the experience not as you may have expected it. Remember, this is a dev site where one comes to learn about so many things. There is just too much info as to enumerate what one can do here.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] leopardtag:
If you want a stable rom ... ARHD... best bat life and very stable. It has a lot of tweaks that make it the best Sense rom. However you should test it along with other rom (AOSP, AOKP, AOKPX, SENSE) so you can finally decide whats best for you. I'm using ICS IceColdSand 8.4 End edition but I'm considering on get back to ARHD. I miss the 720p cam and some Sense features and GPS is not working very well on my phone with ICS.
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
Agreed. Not always having the latest and greatest is the best thing to do. I'm on 8.4 and its sorta buggy. Random hiccups here and there. With ARHD, it was buttery and everything worked flawlessly.
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
I'm just saying dude,you Saud camera diesnt work and it does.
[Desire HD General] majorassface:
Agreed still too broken for me to use as a daily. Thought they were promising working camera!?

I actually use the mic and what good is video without sound.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Might want to reread the rules again. Mainly the one about searching before posting. You have have found that there is no best rom. Only what works best for you. Remember this is not a Rom site but a development site. Which means if you are not here to learn then you are in the wrong place.
[Desire HD General] Rodix85:
Do someone know anybody at HTC and can ask if they at least release the kernel source and the drivers? That would be so great for the Devs and the community!
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
I'm not trying to be disrespectful,but why are we not allowed to get an opinion on some roms to know where to start?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Yes you can. Problem is, there have been so many threads discussing the same thing.

Hence, that is why he says search first, because most likely the question you are about to ask, including this one, has been covered endlessly.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] trh1341:
No no, ill give you that, but he closed so many if them and when you search its all threads from forever ago or ones with no answer at all
[Desire HD General] c5satellite2:
Keep sending them emails and include that you don't like being lied to, and that the TBOLT is still on the list but it is the same hardware and we know they are lying. Also include in your email that you want it forwarded to the CEO and President of HTC. Let them know we know about their flat out lies.
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
Agreed. And keeping the noise up on Twitter & Facebook would be a good idea too.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Pm if you like. I'll answer to the best of my knowledge. At least I can point you in the right direction - hopefully :D

+1

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
He closes them because its pointless and subjective. If left open long enough all roms would be recommended. X rom is stable with no issues what so ever. As all the items I use work but for you it doesn't and you recommend a different rom instead. To me the point of xda is to try things out on our own and learn what works best for our particular needs.

By searching and reading those closed threads one should be able see that
[Desire HD General] evronetwork:
Just a link to send an e-mail to them(I've just send one for me)

http://www.htc.com/uk/contact/

This ain't gonna happen ..I wish but sadly it would not. Although in the e-mail I've send to htc I told them to either release an ICS version as promised or the drivers so people can have ICS fully working and stable.. :good:
[Desire HD General] NFNP:
My next phone won't be a HTC I don't want to face same behaviour from HTC in the future.
[Desire HD General] l33ch0r:
You think other companies would act much different? I don't think many companies deliver the newest update to a device that's more than a year and a half old.

Gesendet von meinem Desire HD mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD General] istux:
I'm so disappointed. :(

Tomorrow I'm moving to Galaxy Nexus :p

Goodbye HTC, forever.

---------- Post added at 03:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 AM ----------

You're right, in fact the only solution is to buy a Google phone.

What got me so angry was the promise THEY made about the ICS update.

The DHD hardware equipment is very similar to other HTC devices they updated, so why telling us they had issues just with this one?

I dislike this kind of behaviour... that's why I won't buy another HTC device again. :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
ARHD 6.x.x is based on DHD official Sense 3.0 firmware, I think this is the reason why HTC cancelled the ICS update, because Sense 3.0 ROM for DHD is so perfect :D
[Desire HD General] angramenyu:
That's the Rom I'm currently using on my Inspire. I think I will stick around with it until I change my phone for a Nexus. Too bad, I used to like HTC phones.
[Desire HD General] ensassin:
So, it sounds like we have no hope for it anymore? I think, Virtuous team will release sense 4 stable ICS , camera is already working on Virtuous Infinity v1.30.0 alpha 1
[Desire HD General] I_L_I_J_A:
Desire HD was released October '10 and ICS was released October '11 so exactly 12 months old - try no to cound 4 months of htc lying that it is getting ICS
[Desire HD General] nexy33:
you never know with enough protest they may have a change of heart like they did with the desire and gingerbread can but hope. Their sales were down last quarter the prospect of losing more to unhappy customers may spur a change
[Desire HD General] l33ch0r:
Everybody knows it takes time for the companies to bring newest Android to their devices. And ICS was planned to be released around July-August. By then the phone is nearly 2 years old. Enough reason for them not to bring the update ;)