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[Desire HD General] ogbrandon:
How about this?

Make hTC notice we want our update!

Spam their blog, their facebook pages, their twitter, their customer support and so on!

Remove your likes on their facebook pages, etc!

Make them aware of their (upset) users.
[Desire HD General] if4ct0r:
Agreed with the first part, HTC should definitely atleast roll out an HTCDev release for the libs and the kernel. Give a chance to our XDA devs to roll out fully functional ROMs. They owe atleast that much after officially stating that DHD would be getting ICS and even stating a tentative release date officially!

I know a few people who recently bought DHD purely because they were expecting it to get ICS anyway.. This statement of HTC is a kick in the nuts of such customers.

HTC should in all fairness release the libs and kernel code now as soon as possible... given the fact that they think they've tested it and cant/wont do anything about bringing ICS to DHD. The devs here are simply waiting to piss on HTC and prove that their so called "testing" is load of BS. I'm pretty sure given the code our devs can deliver the so called "customer experience" that HTC is crying about.

As for the second part.. Well I personally dont think Sense 3.6 is too much to handle for DHD... for starters it isn't that much different than 3.5 and requirements aren't so steep that our DHD can't handle. Sense 3.6 doesn't require dedicated hardware anyway.

My word to HTC would be to play fair now, whatever the reason(marketing, technical or "customer experience") that they think is stopping them from releasing an update.. atleast give the community a chance.. as it is.. if they don't release an update they won't be losing anything releasing their proprietary code.

Eagerly waiting for something to happen in HTCDev.
[Desire HD General] MohamedYousri:
HTC: Desire HD to stay on current software, no ICS update | Android Central - http://goo.gl/b8pPO

:( :( :(
[Desire HD General] hysteresis:
They struck out Desire HD from the list of handsets getting an update.

How is that ambiguous?
[Desire HD General] Negerus:
Why is Desire S still getting an update, while the one for desire HD is cancelled?
[Desire HD General] aidinvm_ultimate:
All is about this quastion definitely! Why???!
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
I reeeeeeally hope someone from HTC reads these forums.
[Desire HD General] amf66:
Do they ever reply to what people post on their Facebook page? They seem to be completely ignoring everyone.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
If they are a well organized company, they do. I can't remember if it's a software that does the job, or a person, nor what it's called. But it's used instead of having think tanks.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] marl30:
It doesn't make much sense to me either.
[Desire HD General] will5:
Well.. when other htc devices gets leaks and the one you have gets none.

It means.. they never tested/worked on ics for this phone.
[Desire HD General] angramenyu:
HTC keeps avoiding responsibility with their hollow excuses. They haven't even said the word "cancelled". And to top it all, they have struck the DHD name on the list. They could just have leave it with an asterisk or something, but no, they struck it to pour more sold into the wound.
[Desire HD General] qaliza:
If a device like the Desire C can run ics with sense 4, i\m pretty sure our beloved DHD can run it much much better...!
[Desire HD General] -Alaa-:
guys it will be like a moral for us dhd users, i dont trust htc no more if they dont release the update we should buy nexus devices or something not htc and the funny thing they still wonders why q2 selling results werent very good.

Htc we dont buy ur software we buy ur qualite phone. no update at least a 3.0 kernel and we dont need you anymore.
[Desire HD General] toxicpaulution:
HTC is turning into the new apple. But hell even the iPhone 3gs will be getting ios 6. Come on. HTC just needs to respect its customers and what they want. Okay so their sense 3.6 and ics can't run properly. Doesn't mean the hobbiests here can't make it work. Explain to me why the people who get paid for this doesn't do a great job. But yet the people who have family's and full time jobs can push out better performance and better products. If only xda made their own phone xD haha but seriously this is getting in my nerves. When we are told we are getting something and then don't. I'm done with them. My phone screen is smashed and the digitizer is bleeding. I almost went out and repaired it but at this rate ill just go ahead and but a different phone.. sorry HTC I'm done with your arrogance.
[Desire HD General] amf66:
Generic reply from HTC to my email:

HTC does not announce dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that. I have forwarded your request for the Kernel Source code to the appropriate department. Please keep in mind that due to the software not being released as of yet, this code may be unavailable. I hope you have a great weekend.
[Desire HD General] karthikkri:
It is official... HTC is not gonna get ics..

http://phandroid.com/2012/07/21/tel...tc-canceled-the-desire-hd-android-4-0-update/
[Desire HD General] toxicpaulution:
We are aware that we aren't getting it.

Also. HTC has ics. Desire hd isn't getting it.
[Desire HD General] damaddy:
Hey

now we, the customers, get to know, why HTC has a too big range of products, they are not able to provide updates for all of their phones anymore, and HTC seems not to be able to provide less quantity and more quality phones to get the customer attraction.

But perhaps we are lucky: The Virtuous Team seems to have a working kernel for the DHD :)

(Hope that news wasn't posted here before)

h t t p s://twitter.com/chrisch1974/status/226603252689555456
[Desire HD General] iPwn_:
Virtuous has a 3.0 kernel for DHD with working camera and camcorder.

I still don't see why we care about HTC's update anymore. We have the needed kernel, and their official ROM is going to be the slowest one available for DHD.
[Desire HD General] andalism:
Because there are tons of people who dont have root and want to experience ics?
[Desire HD General] matt_tang:
I think the internal communication in HTC needs to work on, it seemed that the people does not know what the other team working on. and yeah I am really disappointed too with this. I guess the next phone will be a nexus for me
[Desire HD General] hoang555:
Calm down everyone, this is what I received from HTC:

"Thank you for contacting HTC.

With reference to your query,I'd like to tell you that the update for HTC Desire HD will come out by the end of this month.However currently we do not have the exact date.

Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

We look forward to be of service to you again."
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
Whoever told you this is stupid arsehole ,who hasn't been updated with the latest information ,comunication is certainly not HTC thing,if you think you are getting ics on your dhd you are wrong
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
i think some sales people r still not briefed

HTC is simply ignoring all the negative posts on facebook and replying to the positive ones, some of the DHD posts got a reply "If you like, you're more than welcome to drop a message to this page (message option, top right) if you'd like to discuss some of the above more."

seems real to me, keep giving them hell they will submit trust me
[Desire HD General] al2k4:
I was considering the One X for my next phone, not now though!

Thanks HTC for helping me decide.

It's terrible to lead people on for months then to say, oh no you're not getting it. Absolutely disgraceful.
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
You are totally kidding me if you are still going to buy One X after HTC did this terrible things to all DHD owners.
[Desire HD General] sheenswizner:
htc provide required kernel

We just want kernel 3.0 to run camera in custom semse roms.

Htc DHD enough performence to run Sense4.0.

HTC should provide requred kernel n tools to run custom sense by developers.

Lets see what's next.
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
I can do that too!

"Thank you for contacting HTC.

We are laughing all the way to the bank.

We look forward to screwing people over again.
[Desire HD General] kore_sar:
HTC One X costs more than 700 USD in my country, whereas Galaxy Nexus 350 USD.

The choice is obvious.

HTC will abandon One X in half a year, JB is going to be its last update ever, like they did to DHD.
[Desire HD General] al2k4:
"not now though!"

I'm not, don't worry. :)

I can't trust HTC after this.
[Desire HD General] Nadirchine:
when the Virtuous team finish their rom with sense 4 ?
[Desire HD General] Murtagh92:
Kernel 3.0

I don't understand one thing... if HTC doesn't release the update for the DHD, so doesn't release the kernel 3.0, is there a possibility to make the camera works in the rom with sense 4.0?
[Desire HD General] wigankev:
An XDA User has managed to make 3.0 kernel and got camera and camcorder working. Just waiting for him release it to XDA

---------- Post added at 11:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 AM ----------

Working Camera on sense 4 rom
[Desire HD General] Springdale:
So now we can start a few threads about waiting for the release of the new Virtuous ROM :D :D

I think we will get it in augustust - YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

:S
[Desire HD General] Murtagh92:
In Italian I would say "a lot of esteem for him" .... I hope is the same in english! :)
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
One things I don't understand from this Sense porting jobs, why the Sensation XL Gingerbread ROM with Sense 3.5 could ported and work almost flawlessly with DHD, but the dev seems to had a hard times to port Sensation XL ICS Sense 3.6 ROM to DHD? According to GSMArena, the two phones almost had identical hardware apart from different screen size. Basically, Sensation XL is just a DHD with bigger screens.

*EDIT: Fo those who keeps asking for ETA of Virtuous Sense 4 ROM, I suggest you to stop it. The dev here seems to be a little bit sensitive about ETA of their ROM. Just keeps watching this thread for new informations regarding Virtuous's ROM :)
[Desire HD General] kaleun:
I'd rather have an fully working sense 3.6 experience :) incl. Kernel 3.x ofc...
[Desire HD General] RRSoftware:
I contacted HTC and got the validation of the cancellation from the German support:
[Desire HD General] Richi207:
Android 4.0 is cancelled for DHD not just sense 3.6... a very bad decision

Danke dir :)
[Desire HD General] Houz74:
http://www.htc.com/uk/help/android4faq/#q4

The DHD has more then 512MB...
[Desire HD General] callmemycool:
In general, except for Desire HD because we want to screw you guys up.
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
they mean internal memory the DHD has 1.5GB, 3x the limit
[Desire HD General] JediDevil:
I think the DHD is to old for the update. The Desire S is 6 month younger.

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire HD A9191 mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
i think we will get a custom ice sense rom from virtious team but also a issue free jelly bean rom soon.

ryt now the jelly bean rom is working with some issues..

whats not working..

camera

mic – works in calls but crashes apps

audio routing – in phone calls audio comes out the rear speaker and when headset is plugged in audio comes out of both headset and speakers

if we get a working jelly bean rom, it will be a huge slap for HTC.
[Desire HD General] davevo:
bad news for us, but we got alternative ;)
[Desire HD General] chrisund123:
Still runs pretty much the same hardware though.
[Desire HD General] 13770147:
Thats rite :)

YES!
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Without the kernel source while we may get a port it will be far from issue free. There will still be issues with the camera and video recorder.
[Desire HD General] alirez_sos:
HTC answered my mail

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Dear alireza,

Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your Desire HD.

My name is Luke and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.

I understand you would like to know if the 4.0 update has been cancelled for the Desire HD.

At this time we have not announced whether the Desire HD will get the 4.0 update as this is still currently in testing. We will release an official statement too when we have finished the testing and ensured that this update is fit for use with the latest upate.

To let me know I have successfully answered your query, please follow the link below to close your enquiry, you will have the opportunity to leave feedback about your experience contacting me today.

Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.

To send a reply to this message, please click here.

Sincerely,

Luke

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[Desire HD General] sonnysoul:
Absolutely ridiculous. Here's hoping HTC at least have the decency to release the kernel or possibly even a Sense-free build of ICS. If I remember correctly, I believe they released a Gingerbread rom for the Desire without Sense.

I just don't understand how they can say the testing was unsuccessful on the Desire HD, yet the Incredible S got the update yet it has the same ram and processor. Unbelievable.

Maybe they should give us Sense 4 instead. We all know it runs well on the Desire C and One V, which are both inferior to the Desire HD. I guess it's because Sense 4 is much lighter and much more streamlined.

HTC have really shot themselves in the foot with this one. Admittedly I wasn't expecting to see ICS on the Desire HD, but once they announced it would get it, they should have stuck to it.

I never thought I'd say this but I think HTC should be given a miss if you're thinking of buying a new phone. I've been using an iPhone 4 for the last few months as the Desire HD was beginning to show its age, and I must admit the user experience is so much better. The iPhone 4 is a little older than the Desire HD yet runs so smoothly. The Desire HD is shocking with newer apps and hasn't aged very well - the product of Android fragmentation which needs to be sorted out quickly.

Lesson learnt is if you want an Android device that will get updates and in a timely manner, go for the Nexus devices. Else, go for an iPhone. I think I've owned my last HTC device. HTC... shame on you. And this is coming from a guy who was defending HTC, saying we should all be patient and not complain until August is over, and that we should be thankful that we are getting the update. Now I feel cheated.

HTC... right here, buddy...

MOD EDIT. YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER
[Desire HD General] scaryshark:
Sounds more like a generic reply/some guy who doesn't know what he's talking about. I once spoke to a HTC guy and asked weather the EVO 3D was coming to the UK, I wad categorically told no... We all know how that panned out! :)

P.s. I love that confidentiality notice at the end of the email! :D
[Desire HD General] ricc@rd:
if we get any leak from htc testers, would the kernel of this leak be sufficient to cook a rom without bugs? or you would necessarily need kernel sources? thank you :)
[Desire HD General] MrKaon:
Never again HTC my next phone would be next nexus.
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
I always find those funny. As they actually don't have any legal merit and will not hold up I'm court.
[Desire HD General] MrKaon:
I think the only reason why we didn't get any leak was there isn't any test RUU, every thing was a big lie, even Vodafone help them as well.
[Desire HD General] Groschen:
I think they dont get all the drivers working, compiling or whatever... and yes it was all a lie, they said that all 2010/2011 devices get the ics update in july but to the desire hd they said july-august...
[Desire HD General] rzgomba:
Since we got deep sixed by HTC. Telus has a sale on Nexus S for 149.99.

I purchased this as a replacement for my HTC desire HD.

Good Bye HTC. Hello Nexus.

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/s...tml?eVar6=link
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
Anyone else wrote to hTC?

I have a few times and they always reply back, but ESPECIALLY if you fill in the customer satisfaction form...they RING you!

So I got a call and basically let her have it...BIG STYLE!

I wasn't rude, but basically told her that I was a devoted HTC fan, but after this HUGE let down, myself and all my family members who all oen HTC phones are now putting them on Ebay and are NEVER EVER buying ANYTHING even remotely related to HTC, EVER AGAIN!!

HTC = gonna end up going bust if they keep treating people like!!!!

In fact, to make a point, I might make up my mind on what my next phone is going to be, then NOT sell my DHD...but make a video telling of my DISGUST with HTC and smash my phone up and shoot it etc etc.

Then put it on Youtube.

HTC - YOU SUCK!!
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
Maybe a silly question but how about jelly bean? Is that lighter than ics? If so then htc can give us that in combination with sense ryt?
[Desire HD General] Marcdu81:
This is not the end of the world if DHD hasn't ICS update ... I use HTC phones since 2001 and it was the same thing every time . For the moment i use sometime ICS with my HD2, but for now, gingerbread is enough for me . As usual, the day I would like really ICS, I will change my phone ...
[Desire HD General] Nadirchine:
maybe you did nt understand ours discussions ... look , if HTC said no ICS for DESIRE HD at the beginning (march), then we can understand, but HTC said that the ICS upgrade for DHD will come between July - august , and last week came to play with us , then it cheats us .... you like or dislike your phone is your problem ... so please understand before posting
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
Actually ICS comes up with some amazing updates for adreno 205 and the cpu and many other additional stuff you can do so i wouldn't really say that GB should be enough because having an update is always a pro.
[Desire HD General] grigoriisi:
This is like the iPhone 4g owners would ask for siri. It's just market thing if the give us kernel 3 it would make no difference between dhd and one x. They need to sell the one series with an advantage over older htc phones and that is sense 4. Just my 2 cents
[Desire HD General] WenzHere:
just read this tweet from the verge. i guess there's no hope for DHD to get official ICS from HTC.

the only hope to taste fully working ICS will be fix from virtuous team

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/22/3176223/htc-confirms-desire-hd-no-android-4-update?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
dude !!

We see that 1000 times !
[Desire HD General] bondocel:
Ok the way i see it is like this: most people that bought a htc for sense and its utility will most likely buy a htc for the same reason. I personaly hate aokp/aosp ics in one word pure android that is why i won't get a nexus. But things would change for a lot of these people if someone could port sense roms to other devices (fully port sense plus apps) in this case i would buy a nexus or samsung because i have multiple ported roms to choose from. As i have learned in this comunity nothing is impossible, we have a ported sgs 3 rom, xperia, lg, aosp,aokp,miui plus almost all the asian launchers. Could porting of a sense rom to a non sense device be possible?
[Desire HD General] marl30:
This has also made news at Gsm Arena.

http://www.gsmarena.com/android_40_ics_is_officially_a_no_go_for_htc_desire_hd_-news-4549.php
[Desire HD General] Marcdu81:
I quite understand. I've got 15 differents models, I begin to know how they do, it's not the first time they announce an update and after they come back ...
[Desire HD General] grigoriisi:
Yep they are working on sgs2 now on porting sense.
[Desire HD General] scaryshark:
I know where your coming from but pure android isn't that bad. I keep going back to sense only really because of a few features that I keep on missing like stocks on lock screen, flip to silent/loudspeaker, move to quieten, multi email inbox,extended quick settings & some of the apps layout just feel better to me like I like to have a home button on my browser and I hate now having labels for buttons like on Gmail & sms.

If cm or aokp could try to add more features of touchwiz and sense into their roms I can easily see myself switching to pure android instead.
[Desire HD General] MohamedYousri:
I guess our hope now is a full successful port from HTC Sensation XL , HTC Desire S or HTC Incredible S

In my opinion they shall send us the update stating that it will not perform as good as they want and we are the users who decide which software to use

It will be so hard to choose the next device :crying: :confused:
[Desire HD General] boss man Kole:
I agree. I'm pretty sure our amazing devs here at xda can fix the bugs
[Desire HD General] ROBINGAZI:
I was under the impression only sense 3.6 got canned and the update would have sense 3.0 with ics. Reading some of the response people got FROM HTC official I had this impression...may be I'm wrong.
[Desire HD General] girakshay:
Like Apple releasing iOS6 for 3GS why can't HTC do it for DHD. If they can't just release the kernel rest will be taken care by xda devs.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Many have tried and while they get somethings working they can't ever get everything working do to it being wrapped up heavy with closer sourced framework jar and drivers. Without these there will never be a 100% working port.
[Desire HD General] shunfanit:
:( I am so dissappointed !!!
[Desire HD General] Clayloo:
Don't have to be disappointed. Team Virtuous is going to release a full Sense 4 ROM with working camera that can even record 720P soon...

U may take a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLJy6IW0XV4
[Desire HD General] batrado77:
Dear Radoslav, following the various rumours posted to tech news sources and social networks over the past 72 hours about a potential cancellation of the ICS update for Desire S and Desire HD, we can now confirm that this is not the case.

We remain committed to providing customers with the latest software updates when possible. As such, we are pleased to confirm we are still on schedule to deliver an Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for both the HTC Desire HD and Desire S.

This is email from htc I recived this morning, but I don't trust them anymore...
[Desire HD General] z_sven:
I don't trust them until they release it
[Desire HD General] t0mas_:
dude, although the video says infinity, that is not dhd, i think its sensation.
[Desire HD General] cyablo:
They got a nice email from me, 5 Minutes ago. Just wanted them to know that im not pleased how they are dealing with their customers and that is it not the fine way, canceling an update with such a lame reason, they promised their customers for so long.

hope the petition, blogcomments and emails get heard by the responsible persons.