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[HTC One X] py_martinez:
@Timlambo,

Ok i see all is not so simple !

Thanks for your explications.

In fact my aim is to minimize the drain of the battery when i play at light games and when i watch movies on my phone

You say the 3b11 is the best of faux, best for performance (and draining battery ?) or best for what i search : lower average cpu frquencies ?

""You can however edit the up_thresold(hamdir help here) to max, 100""""
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Well, best for performance. But if you want lower performance, sometimes you can use a "powersave" choice(like conservative, or if you use stock kernel, powersave). Those normally run on lower frequencies and a lot of the times only on 1 core.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
sorry guys I know its all getting confusing but really all u need is either the interactive scripts if ur on custom kernels or the on-demand scripts if u r on the latest leaked kernel

the op is indepth about all the logic behind it or if u need to do it in other ways

tomorrow ill try to fix the OP and seperate it between the simple way of scripts and the rest

now regarding 003b11 its really best in everything heat, power consumption and speed

we r getting better performance with interactive gov that actually use the quads

finally yes we don't have clock control but we have governor control which is even better, ondemand is best for battery, using setcpu simply raise the up threshold to reduce calling max clocks, raise it to 95 or 97 but not 100 otherwise the system will crawl n freeze, or reduce the threshold for better speed

finally remember its not tegra3 eating ur battery its the screen, ur brightness will make all the difference, over heating however will act as multiplier to battery consumption
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
Hamdir is faux's 003b11 still the best option now kholk has released the kernel with 520mhz GPU?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
520!!!!!! I didn't know he listened oh I freakin lov him

running to test it
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
i installed faux from repacked kernels for arhd 7.1.0

but there is a weird thing after i flashed it with the moudles

when i enter my settings >about phone > and enter the kernels

it doesnt show that im on faux 0b11

it just shows kernel 2.6.3 @root

or some thing like that

does that mean it didnt flash the faux ?

and hamdir i think u should make a video guide

cuz alot of ppl finding it hard to follow the guide and some of them didnt understand it well

i didnt understand it well at the start ...

will try faux again tomm and see how the games preform
[HTC One X] hamdir:
faux will show as Paul in about, its name of the mashine he compiles from

use 003b11 or Franco r12 plus interactive scripts

stock kernel 2.05 use ondemand scripts

dying to test eternity project wooohooooo expect a good boost with the full gpu speed

let's pray its stable
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
but wouldnt the 520 gpu mhz

effect the device ? isnt it like overclocking ? i think it can harm the device ...
[HTC One X] hamdir:
no its not OC, the GPU on T30 and AP33 is rated 520mhz, HTC UCed it for other reasons like battery and the usual "phone dont need more" mentality

wait for my feedback however
[HTC One X] timlambo:
I can't wait.:D

Also going to try it now on viper rom.
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Hamdir, I just tried those scripts for interactive of yours, and it's not working for the Eternity kernel. Can you maybe also make a version for that, going manual for now, but automagic would be nice.:fingers-crossed:
[HTC One X] hamdir:
nevermind man its a false alram GPU 520 is not working

something is off, i made all tests same GPU scores

lets wait for khlok to answer us, probably tomorrow
[HTC One X] hamdir:
ok so we r disappointed with gpu 520mhz fail tonight

but I have good news for stock 2.05 kernel lovers

I fixed the performance issues further by optimizing and testing on-demand values, temple run brave doesnt lag anymore (we need to lower sampling down factor)

I also had a secret weapon we can disable 3d clocks gpu scaling and it seems to be working at the cost of some extra heat (means it will stick to 416mhz during 3d games instead of jumping up n down)

ill provide it optional tomorrow as well as updated ondemand scripts
[HTC One X] Melodycd:
It really work!

Just tryed it. It works fine! no lags anymore in NFS! Thanks!
[HTC One X] timlambo:
But since stock was very good at keeping heat low, I assume it will heat more or less to the same amount as lots of other kernels.
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
Hamdir what do you get with nenamark2?
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
I have to ask u what did u try i mean what kernel optimized settings did u try ?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
right back to work

im posting a new ondemand scripts in few minutes
[HTC One X] hamdir:
Gaming Boost Scripts: Ondemand Governor - v2

v2:

- Further optimization by reducing sampling down factor, now temple run brave lags much less

- Added GPU option in each pack, this will lock the GPU at its max available clocks during 3d games only (currently 416mhz) it will cost some extra heat but don't expect much since its already scaling to it max with the ondemand scaling tweak, the stock script will re-enable the default 3d scaling

as always this is best for stock 2.05 kernel and further narrowed the difference between this kernel's ondemand and custom kernels' interactive
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
how can i activate the gpu lock to 520 mhz? ...is it auto-activated or what?
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
When the eternity project kernel is near enough perfected, will you be focussing on that if others don't touch the GPU?
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
i think this app will help with monitoring the gaming performance to let u see how is the 4 cores are doing with gaming

thats the thread of the app (its not my thread ofc )

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1615666
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
i think the most of the hox user know this app or the people who know this forum :D
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
lol i didnt know that :D

can u please upload the apk of that program because where i live the google store is blocked i cant install any thing from it

so it would be great if u upload it to me

:)
[HTC One X] timlambo:
If you are rooted, you can try market enabler. It allows you to install apps from market via a "false" country(meaning, like America)
[HTC One X] Ian.P:
2.05.401.2-OnDemandSwitch.rar-v2 +DieHard works smoother!!

Tested by cordy level14 and dead trigger.

Thanks mate
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
Woo faux implemented the faster GPU and someone reported 71 FPS in Egypt offscreen!

Thanks Hadmir, it was your perseverance that got it done!
[HTC One X] hamdir:
awesomeness :)
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
When it has been repacked for ARHD it will be available in two versions. One that has just been repacked, and the other has fauxs modified governor. Which should I download?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
i dont know but i will definitely move to it

even if the interactive is broken im sure we can still use the tweaked ondemand values and will perform way better than stock

just i will miss the LCD colors
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
What do you mean by the LCD colours?

Also, O just got glbenchmark.and ran Egypt standard, and there were jagged lines everywhere, things were disappearing and reappearing. This happens often in gameloft games for me like modern combat and spider man, is there a fault with my hardware do you reckon?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
LCD colors were further tweaked in 2.05 kernel, brighter and whiter, slight difference

as for the jagged polygons clipping it happens with apps not properly supporting NV hardware, the GPU on Tegra is different and requires at the very least some consideration from the app maker
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
Is that why the HTC one x does so poorly in basemark taijii?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
basemark taijii is very old and almost non important bro

only qual heavily optimized for it and hence their scores

still waiting guy adams for the repacks :(
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
Have you decided which version you are going to download yet? Normal or with faux's governor?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
not yet

give me a day to give full report but for now guyadams only uploaded standard repack
[HTC One X] hamdir:
Faux 004b6 still has issues with multicore on interactive, Shadowgun THD can still run like a lagfest if it fails to call the quad and get stuck in 1.5ghz one core mode

but keep it ondemand during gaming with my tweaks and its the best kernel for now

NOVA3 with my ondemand script is noticeably smoother

there is some extra heat during gaming and non during normal usage

also my ambient today is 33c so :) its rock stable in my eyes

ill update my scripts if i find a need, he is using the JB interactive governor and has tons of parameter maybe we can optimize those to get interactive back (i have my suspensions about one value)
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
You probably know this already so sorry if I'm telling you again, but the interactive governor on that kernel won't work unless the repacker has made the modifications for it that faux has requested. This is why there are two versions for each of faux's 004 kernels, one with the mofmdified governor and one without. The b6 is yet to have the second version released.
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
better than b11 now? speed ,heat and battery wise
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
android revolution 7.2.0 have been released and it says in chain log (Added tweaks for Ondemand governor ) did any one try it ? does it have better settings for ondemand ? any better performance for games ?
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Hamdir, playing nova on latest faux kernel is superb. No lag at all, running at shadowgun smoothness at the moment. Also phone is not so hot during gaming. Gets to about 68 degrees, although I did undervolt with -75.
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
hi i have to ask u what firmware r u on is it custom or stock ? ? and on what version of faux ? also did u use any special settings >? like setcpu ? governor settings ? or did u use the scripts ? or u didnt use any thing just flashed the faux kernel ?
[HTC One X] timlambo:
I'm on viper rom, which has latest base, but in truth any latest sense based rom should do. I'm using 004b6(faux kernel) with ondemand governor, and using up_threshold of 45. Also using supercharger with option 9. Also as previously stated, I also did an undervolt of -75. But remember no 2 chips are created equal, so you should test that values yourself.

Edit: Those temps earlier were maybe with some luck:confused:. The current temps is about 76 degrees.
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
ok will try that thank u (are u using it with setcpu or systemtunner ) ?

but one i tried supercharger and i dont know i dont get that methode wish there was a video guide about it ...

i used super charger method it opened the script and i did choose like the guide

and then in the end it asked me i also choose option from 1-33 i choose 9

it shows super charger 100/100 then say press any button

i press 9 again it shows the same on and on

why is that ?

iv tried to choose 9 then then i cloosed it (it asked me kill background or end task i choose kill background )

what im doing wrong ? also another thing once i chose the supercharger methode do i have to do any thing before runing the game ? or just open setcpu and but it ondemand and then start the game ?

thanks alot in advance :)
[HTC One X] timlambo:
@Hamdir, if you're somewhere on here you must try nova with interactive. The temps is much much lower than ondemand(about 10 degrees). I tested shadowgun with interactive and its definitely a no go. But please try nova with interactive. No to little lag and low temps. Just awesomeness.

Edit: Just to make sure, you know I'm talking about the faux kernel.:D
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Setcpu is more complex(more options in governor settings which can be confusing) so I prefer systemtuner.

About the supercharger one, it will do something, if you look(scroll up), you will see that it changed the 'lowmemory killer' value and OOM values. If it did not work, or you can't see that then you want to try again. In systemtuner you can also change those values by going to auto-kill option. Then enter these values in this order: 8,16,200,220,240,275.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
testing the faux heavily aka the gamer kernel :)

and yes interactive is definitely no go totally and entirely unpredictable if this is how this governor behave on the nexus 7 during games, I won't get that tablet lol being AOSP I didn't want to root the n7

the good new is on-demand is running perfect, it calls the cores a lot more when needed, switch to 1200mhz multicore mode and stick to it

so just use my on-demand scripts with faux 004b6

for the ultimate use on-demand plus gpu lock powweshiftmax

I'm still trying to understand the best value for sampling down value so might later update those scripts

as for temps I don't care actually, the very worst I had after I depleted my battery with non stop testing is 53c battery and the phone was inside my naked shell poly cover and ambience is freakin 35c!

so actually u all worry about temps but I don't, if anything tegra 3 proved to me its rock stable my old sensation used to get a lot hotter, u rock the tegra3 hard and it never reboots or freeze

t3 is really underappreciated for 40nm its a technical marvel
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Hamdir I keep getting this error message when trying to use your ondemand scripts with faux. The error message is below

================================================

The -=V6 SuperCharger=- by -=zeppelinrox=-

================================================

PowerShifting to a different gear!

================================================

Current Minfrees = 8,16,200,220,240,256 MB

================================================

Setting LowMemoryKiller to...

================================================

...8, 16, 200, 220, 240, 275 MB

================================================

OOM Minfree levels are now set to...

...2048,4096,51200,56320,61440,70400

They are also your new SuperCharger values!

================================================

Switching to optimized ondemand governor

/mnt/sdcard/OnDemand-Performance+PowershiftMax+GPU.sh[67]: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/down_differential: No such file or directory

================================================

Applying Updated Kernel/Memory Tweaks...

...vm.min_free_kbytes = 40960

================================================

Updating MFK in *99SuperCharger Boot Scripts...

================================================

===========================

) PowerShift Completed! (

===========================
[HTC One X] hamdir:
nevermind the error its relates to the on-demand gov on stock a value is missing in the old on-demand on faux but it will ignore it and move on

I will no longer touch interactive gov and on-demand is more than enough once we tweak it

now I have suspensions that deadline scheduler is better for games once confirmed it goes to script

also the more i test, i realize we are actually memory bound and not CPU or GPU, GL games suffer due to heavy amount of texture
[HTC One X] nyorbee:
Hi I have 2.05.401.2_OnDemandSwtich+MinFrees sript, I did widget from it. than now when I have minfrees sript I don't have to perform Reducing stutter and background processes - SuperCharger Method? I mean is this scrip is all I need to have best gam experience or script alone does not do the job, and I must do something else?? When I clicking on performance widget I have :

exec sh '/mnt/sdcard/ondemand-performance+maxminfrees.sh

rd/ondemand-performance+maxminfrees.sh

Is it on then?
[HTC One X] BiggerBux:
Hi Hamdir, can you please help me?

I'm on ARHD 7.2.0 with his stock kernel, so I tried your tips about ondemand governor, I'm using 2.05.401.2-OnDemandSwtich+MinFrees.rar-v2 scripts [ when I play I active the performance script ] but I can't see Sonic Episode II THD going like your video in this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28179976&postcount=195 .

Can you please tell me how can I do more for better performance? When Sonic is on the water, FPS go lower than 30 frame, I can see that ... What can I do? I will follow every tips, even changing ROM or boot.img or all things you have in mind... Thanks in advance.
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Yip I know it moves on, but seems like it searches for that missing file. I manually looked for it, but saw it was definitely not on the phone. What about the other values, like sampling rate, sampling down factor, ignore nice load, powersave bios, io is busy and two phase frequency.

I also read a post on xda a short while ago about those scheduler settings. Apparently noop is for less than 2tasks, deadline less than 8 tasks and so on. I will search for that article for you.

Anyway, now to the last topic. So you think that something like cm9/aosp which is less ram intensive should in theory be better for games?

Edit: Here is that link hamdir, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1172479. Hope this helps mate.
[HTC One X] timlambo:
You should try the latest faux kernel. It's simply superb for games(increased gpu), from 416-520mhz. But as I always say that's just my opinion, you should wait for hamdir's opinion. He is afterall our gaming king.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
why is even asphalt 7 lagging with faux 004b6 and your on demand powershiftxmaxminfrees+gpu-lock script ? ....hm :(
[HTC One X] BiggerBux:
So you think that kernel works better? Wanna try... But the repacked version for the ARHD, I suppose, or not ?

I will listen hamdir too, but in the meantime wanna know other people thinking =)
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Yes I think that kernel works better, especially for games. You should try the repacked one. It's always better to try the repacked kernel for your rom.
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
How are you lot getting Asphalt 7 and NOVA 3? The play store says they aren't compatible with my phone.
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Asphalt 7 had a leaked beta, and nova 3 you can try and use another device to purchase it and copy it to your hox.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
yes that's all u need, sorry the is not clear enough, the script do it all in auto
[HTC One X] hamdir:
not lagging for me did u try to use the non gpu one

also r u using my optimized config for adphalt?
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Hamdir did you have a look at my previous post about the schedulers? I think it might have some useful info.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
those videos were filmed using stock arhd plus optimized interactive scripts and faux 003b11

u should get the same with 004b6 and on-demand scripts

sometimes I get the feeling 003b11 was smoother without even the GPU 520mhz but dunno 004b6 is fast n impressive

all I know is the hox n games doesn't need more CPU or gpu right now, it needed faster memory so yes I'm pretty sure less ram heavy roms will do better with faux latest 004b6

timlambo again nevermind the script error its simply changing 4 values one of them is not available on faux, finally u can always optimize those values urself n let us know

let me know if u guys have crazy heat on faux 004b6 because I'm using a different repack with faux power management tweaks, the max I got on a super hot 33c day with the hox inside hardcover is 53c battery
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
Have you considered using ROM cleaner on ARHD to remove sense altogether and replace it with APEX?

It frees up a lot of RAM.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
no I'm sure it helps, let us know mate how much do u get with faux 004b6 and Egypt screen, heard it gets 74fps with Rom cleaner that's 10fps over stock

sadly I use my phone for other stuff too n honestly need those sense stuff

for those who dont care about sense i seriously recommend rom cleaner

please post ur feedback if u try it
[HTC One X] hamdir:
for the later ARHD 7.2.x the governor is tweaked similar out of box so all u need is supercharger, Rom cleaner or changing minfrees using system tuner

u can still use my scripts which r still more aggressive but the stock script will restore the previous stock value which r upthreshold 90 instead of 60
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
Haha I was the one who said I got 74 FPS!

To which you replied something like "74???! What ROM are you using?"
[HTC One X] hamdir:
sorry sorry :)

tempting
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
I do miss all the widgets but it still looks pretty good and it turns on in 6 seconds which is a lot faster than it did before I reflashed it with Rom cleaner.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
damn I would miss the clock n people widget

the mail and gallery app

but we can have them back if we comment Rom cleaner script

can't be bothered to be honest

but ur the guy asking the most about performance in here is it not working for u?
[HTC One X] ORStoner:
All the important Sense apps remain like mail, people, messaging etc, its just the things that slow it down that go. Sadly they are the things that you miss most (like the windscreen wiper when it rains :( ). A lot of the skin remains as it was too.

To be honest I was just a bit bummed out by how much better the Samsung galaxy s3's GPU is so if there is anything I can do to max this out then I will (my goal is to beat the stock s3 in antutu, for pride mainly).
[HTC One X] hamdir:
ill try it when i decide to wipe

timlambo is correct, nova3 plays nicely the powermax****+gpu as well as deadline I definitley think its better

in other games this thing is just zipping
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Yip nova 3 is also playing very smooth. I do play with noop but will try with deadline. I have that powershift+gpu on my homescreen. Always there, and close by.:D
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
yes with the config with all effects etc and i wil ltry without gpu lock...
[HTC One X] hamdir:
once I'm sure deadline is best ill add it in the script

GL games really need the max min frees or supercharger, so I guess they would benefit the most from Rom cleaner

all in all I'm pretty happy with the progress we've made

ill be staying with faux simply because nothing can make temple run brave run smooth on stock and that's just silly, I do miss its temps however

if someone can test the difficult games with Rom cleaner 004b6 and my scripts and report
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
which other games? i test temple run brave...a moment pls :D

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there are some little very little fps drops not so often but its really smooth ..i tried with gpu lock now without and deadline also in think its better ;)

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without gpu lock it lags a bit more....not so strong but with gpu lock its better....

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but now im going to bed i have normally holidays but there is something in the new school...
[HTC One X] timlambo:
I did some research, and I have a very good feeling that you are right. Deadline is better, but we don't have the one called SIO, which is apparently better than deadline. I think I saw it either on stock or on EP.

Which is the more difficult games you're talking about?
[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
Can some please make a video guide ....

Cuz im doing every thing... And it dont seem that its working on my device the lag is the same ....
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
+1 for this, would save a lotta questions in this thread, pictures say a thousand words

S3? Bleh. One X? Hell Ya!
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
did you flashed die hard launcher from hamdir for the base that your flashed rom has?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
this is what i know, confirmed by zep too

SIO > deadline > noop

hard games, are nova the first level, Asphalt 7 these two games needs extra RAM the more you free the background the smoother they become, while the less effect version of nova versus full acts the exact same which means we are not CPU or GPU bound, we are actually bandwith or memory bound

and ofcourse the crazy temple run, nothing you do on stock can make it lag free, on R12, 003b11 and 004b6 its liquid smooth with the tweaks
[HTC One X] hamdir:
sorry i have no time for a video guide

use ondemand scripts + die hard

and if you are expecting suddenly to have 3x the frame rate, i dont think you get it

what this does is get you the max out of hardware and get rid of the horrible lag and heavy frame dips

what games r u testing?