yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] beeewell:
You can't be too careful

Thank you Samwes.

I am from the US with stock SGP5 Model YPG70CWYXXA and I dread the chance of bricking, so I'm doing lots of homework by looking at and trying to understand various postings here.

KIES is working on my Windows PC, so my plan is to root via SuperOneClick and install Eryigit's latest tar file via the latest version of Odin. I read in the install instructions that you are supposed to:

(in Clockwork recovery mod : wipe cache partition ---> OK; Wipe data/factory reset --> OK;

advanced - wipe dalvik cache --> OK; after that install new rom , You must do it , clean installation.)

The stock version does not have Clockwork recovery mod, so do I need to do the Odin install twice? e.g. The 1st install to GET the Clockwork recovery mod feature, then go into Clockwork recovery mod to do the above "wiping", and then repeat the install via Odin again ??
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] dstarfire:
Actually, once you've got Entropy's recovery mod installed, you can just use that to install other roms. Just copy the new rom file over (in a .zip) to your device, boot into recovery mode, and choose the right options. (It's fairly intuitive)
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] snarful:
You say you dread the chance of bricking your device; if you're not prepared to accept and live with the possibility of doing so, perhaps terminally, then I suggest you not do it.

What, exactly, do you hope to gain by rooting and flashing a different ROM? Does the stock ROM lack some specific functionality that you want/need, or is it only for experimental purposes?

If you're just looking to gain the experience, then that's a perfectly valid reason to explore the flexibility of Android, but you must be careful in what you do, and realize the consequences of error.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] DZonikg:
Just do a backup in recovery before you flash..i did not now anything before i flash it and i brick it but people here help me to unbrick it and since then i know how and i flash almost every rom from here for testing.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] SirRhor:
I bricked my first device months ago because I didn't have any experience flashing stuff, I made a mistake, but now I know better.

Don't be afraid, just try it, but be informed first, now there's a lot more information about anything related to this device.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] azoller1:
Yeah I should of researched more I was stupid, when I tried flashing a from with Odin it would work, so I reset the device and then when it rebooted I came up with the picture with the phone and then dots connecting it to a computer and then that didn't work with Odin either, so I was stupid and let the battery run all the way out because I though it would fix it but no. It got hard bricked and it now doesn't turn on. Hope any of you never make the mistake I did, and now I'm trying out a USB jig because I know its charging so there is still chance, if that doesn't work then I will have to take off the back plate and remove the battery and I will go from there, but for now I'm awaiting for my USB jig to arrive, it sucks.....
[General Questions and Answers] plegimus:
I have a dude referent tablet FR-809.

Any same, or system to flash the original rom??

I need flash the original or ICS rom.... jjejeje (but I think is not imposible).
[Motorola Droid RAZR] s55:
hi

i have the razr maxx gsm international version and i wonder if i can use the razr roms with the maxx?

what is the best rom to use if i can use the same rom?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] trickyhenry:
I guess you can use any gsm rom or any cdma rom with the gsm hack. I think the only difference is just physical battery and chasis.

I am using the gsm t-mobile leaked ics rom. I deactivated the bloatware and changed the boot screen to std moto. You can use this too with cwm.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25348458

This runs as well as any ics rom i have tried on any phone. Everything works with good battery.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] s55:
thx alot i will give it a try
[HTC EVO 3D] th3drow:
Ok I've searched around and I see different answers everywhere, but i'm trying to figure out what giving my evo 3d with 1.5 hboot S-off will do for me that I can't already do

I mean I can already flash roms, flash kernels, use custom recoveries.

Which are things in threads I googled said it helps you do. What else can't I do that i could do with s-off.

If there is a thread i didn't find that tells me what I'm asking please link me and I apologize.

thankyou
[HTC EVO 3D] fearjego:
If you're s-off, you can flash PG86IMG zips in the bootloader. So it's easy to update radio, bout splash screens and many other things. Many people who couldn't update their radios couldn't update to ICS.

Sents from my PG86100 using XDA
[HTC EVO 3D] EvoX!!:
s-off

yes you can but you will to flash kernel img
[HTC EVO 3D] coal686:
From trolling the forums, it seems that s-on causes a lot of issues compared to s-off when flashing roms. Some have no problems, but many of the problems seem to come from s-on users.

Sent from my PG86100
[HTC EVO 3D] wloftus:
youre right...the reason behind this is that when htc gave you the unlock bootloader status with the s-on status as well,you only were given permission to write to two partitions...boot and systems........... when you obtain hboot 1.4 with s-OFF you obtain the rights to write all of the many partitions including the radio,hboot,boot,systems,data,cache,and all of the rest.... you just have to know what partition your wanting to write to ....
[HTC EVO 3D] ozlokie:
I've been S-on (vodafone AU) from the start and now with 4ext recovery and smartflash the only thing I can't do is flash radio. All ICS roms I have tried have worked as stated, no connection issues, no WiFi issues, nothing. Try a few roms and see. If things stuff up, go s-off. If not, then don't bother for now.
[HTC EVO 3D] fuhnoo:
If you get S-OFF through Juopunutbear, you can have access to full write/erase fastboot commands.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26364274&postcount=125
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daneren2005:
Does anyone know if there exists any cases with physical buttons (either hooks into usb or transmits via bluetooth)? For example I just saw this case for iPhone, but even it is designed for a specific game functionality. What I would love is something that is just a case that you put on the phone which has physical keys that you can use to turn it into a little portable gaming device. I'm guessing that nothing like this exists for our phones so far, but does anyone know of anything like this that exists at all? If there is that is good place to start with asking that company to make one for our phone as well.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Not a case but it's universal.

http://www.icontrolpad.com/
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daneren2005:
Yah that looks like about what I wanted. Is there any competition (its $70!) or this the only one anyone is aware of?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] equlizer:
Try out the Sixaxis software in the market. Works great with any ps3 sixaxis controller ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daneren2005:
Yah I've been using sixaxis + hdmi mirroring with my Atrix on my tv since it first came out like a year ago, I'm more looking for a on the go solution. Playing any action games where you need fine tuned controls on a touch screen is just painful.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] equlizer:
then icontrolpad is the way to go. No others offer a solution (unless you go apple)
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
All was working fine until I installed the 3-dot removal on ODEXED rom then it will never boot again! just hanging on boot. so i ****ed my recovery aswell. All i have now is fastboot which is always telling me BATTERY TOO LOW no matter how long i keep it on charge. I can't flash anything neither use RUU. When I click "switch off" in boot menu it will just restart and bootloop. I don't know how to charge my battery so I can use RUU again. Please any help will be much appreciated!
[HTC One X] themono:
This may be of assistance: http://xdaforums.com/wiki/HTC_One_X#Disaster_Recovery_-_what_to_do_in_the_event_of_a_bad_flash
[HTC One X] bogfather:
Once you are back up and running, this is the 3 dot removal you need for odexed 1.29.401.11 if that's what version your on

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26162691
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
Exactly this version. But I've seen odexed later after I installed it.

I was able just to "erase cache" and unlock it. Then flash recovery. Now its in recovery and I'm waiting for it to charge. Hopefully it will.
[HTC One X] rogersnm:
Once you have the latest CWM you can charge the phone whilst it's off. After that you can flash a ROM/run a RUU and get it back up and running.
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
I was waiting till now and still nothing, ruu starts, erasing everything, sending and when its time to install it says battery low and stops.

still no luck :(
[HTC One X] tossero:
Jack , take a look here and report back! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1609190

Cheers~
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
I've tried everything. Now im at phase in bootloader - battery very low again. It's not charging from bootloader neither when I start it. Recovery is not working too + I can't unlock it because of the battery. Tried to shut down - not working. HTC made that phone crap because of the internal battery! I hope there will be solution or I have to return it to them,.
[HTC One X] treebill:
To be fair its not HTC's fault, you did do something that they didn't intend.

Also don't charge from the bootloader it needs to be completely off, hold power and volume up to force it off.
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
I put it in bootloader to charge - it failed and switched off. Turned on bootloop to charge - same story. Tried with clockworkmod latest - same story. So I was going to send it back. Until I switched the usb port on the PC - then the battery problem was not there! I WAS ABLE TO USE RUU! That's how I fixed it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DelBoy:
According to this

Source: http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=1325

Any thoughts?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AndroHero:
For starters although the Dalvik VM regenerates Dalvik Cache when deleted. It does not remove unneeded .dex files, so regular wiping of the Dalvik Cache can be used to free up wasted space on /data/ partition.

Secondly sometimes a wipe of the Dalvik Cache is needed after modding an already installed application before changes can be seen.

And regarding wiping dalvik cache during troubleshooting for bootloops ect being pointless. I disagree, say for example you modified the framework, after you pushed it back to device, you started getting bootloops. This could simply be because the Dalvik Cache is using the bytecode from the original unmodified framework. By wiping the Dalvik Cache, it will be rebuilt with the correct .dex file for the modified framework.
[HTC EVO 3D] DelBoy:
According to this

Source: http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=1325

Any thoughts?
[HTC EVO 3D] pcausey77:
It don't matter what he says about it there's been many times my roms would quack out or just do odd stuff and wiping dalvic has cleared them problems
[HTC EVO 3D] xCLUx:
person who posted this does not provide any technical information as to why it is not needed.

i will say this, i have forgotten to wipe dalvik cache and cache partitions when applying certain cosmetic mods, or sytem apps, whatever... and sometimes when i would do that i would get stuck in a bootlooop.

pull battery, recovery, wipe partitions... booted up fine after that.

my conclusion is whoever posted that is a ****in idiot.

just my two cents.
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
Any explanation on a technical matter that uses curse words, and has target words for a specific group, is done by a twelve year old whose starving for attention.
[HTC EVO 3D] JohnM:
I don't agree with this guy that it does nothing, but it is much not needed as with a lot of other XDA rituals.

For example, if told to wipe, a lot of users will wipe /system/, /data/, /cache/, run the superwipe zip... 99% of the time that's not needed. Flashing a new ROM auto wipes /system/ (assuming the developer didn't do a sloppy job on the updater-script, but I can assure you every ROM in this section wipes it). /cache/ is wiped with your /data/ wipe. /data/ is the only partition you really need to wipe.

And don't get me started on that superwipe zip. Again, 99% of the time you won't need that.

TL;DR: You don't need to go wipe-happy. Unless the toilet paper is really brown.
[HTC EVO 3D] yourbrotherrex:
Not my usual forum, but I noticed this thread. The guy the OP is referring to says that wiping dalvik doesn't do anything???

Well, I guess that COULD be true: only if you're running an Odexed rom... In which there is no dalvik cache to begin with... Yeah, I'd guess wiping what's not there would be silly.

OTHERWISE, in deodexed roms like most of us use here, it does definitely help once in a while. Dalvik is where Android optimizes the apps/system apps that you have...

If you ADD to those, it's a good thing to wipe dalvik and rebuild as a whole with your new setup...

If you SUBTRACT from those, it's a good idea to wipe dalvik because it's optimized for something that has been taken away, which can't really be very "optimized", now can it?

^That's about the most layman's terms way of describing how it works. Whoever the OP was referring to has his facts wrong, no matter how right he may think he is...

Just my dos centavos.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
To be honest, I partially agree with this.

I've stopped wiping my dalvik unless I'm changing a system file. Other than that, it is not needed as much as people would have you believe.

I don't wipe it after a kernel install either, because dalvik effects APKs, not anything related to the kernel.
[HTC EVO 3D] NixZero:
the dalvik cache stores tables that make possible to directly access the pre-compiled version of java code, if the code changes even slightly those tables points to wrong data, pretty simple.
[HTC EVO 3D] yourbrotherrex:
After changing a system file is correct: it's exactly when the wipe is needed.

But, I'm pretty sure one of the kernels responsibility is actually setting up the Dalvik interaction itself. Since kernel devs aren't usually going to go in and change much in that department (between one kernel and another on the same device, same form of Android) you probably would be safe without wiping. (But since the question of "how deep" the dev went is usually an unknown on the user end, it's just good practice to wipe after flashing a new kernel...(just once, of course, lol.).)

At least, that's how I look at it, and why I do wipe after a kernel flash.

Btw, we usually don't have civil, informative conversations like this over in the ET4G forum: they're usually along the lines of "Galaxy 3: is it just hype, or does this phone still rule the planet?" or "Why Exynos is the greatest thing since sliced bread!", or some other retarded bull****. Nice treat stopping by.
[HTC EVO 3D] AndroHero:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1666251

Because i can't be bothered typing it all out again lol :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Yourbrother it happens over here time to time except when new phones come out then we have a cpl threads. But this has been informative and I appreciate the devs we have that gave insight also thanks to the guy above for his thought as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] yourbrotherrex:
Exactly, and the changes one might make in the system partition that would require a dalvik wipe as a form of troubleshooting are countless... (Themes anyone?)
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
I went over the gs2 forum and I feel bad for you lol we got our trolls and arguments however from outside looking in it looks like nerd rage against every other phone lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] yourbrotherrex:
That's exactly what it is.

The SGS2 is a great phone, but those Forums are so filled with such 100% fanboys, who can't even have an open discussion about the merits of another device, that it makes me kind of sick of even owning one. I went in to Best Buy to see about a buyback (black tie protection), and found out that I'm actually eligible for an upgrade (on a hotspot, no less), so I pre-ordered the lte Evo. So, I guess for now, I'll still have the SGS2, but, yeah, I was totally willing to drop it just because of the Forum idiots.. (not everyone, of course.)

Feels bad, man.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
That's cool I will be getting the LTE soon myself
[HTC EVO 3D] AdmiralKirk:
I would imagine as with many trouble shooting steps they originated from a long line of un-followed or improperly followed directions. Often times you have to tell a user to do 6 unnecessary things to get them to do the one important one.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
Wiping dalvik does nothing? Ok. Here is the scenario...

Current kernel is set @ SIO... 200+ apps are 'upgraded' by Android (pre cached). New kernel flashed. This kernel only supports CFQ scheduler... But it has the pre-cache for apps, expecting to R/W/E @ SIO, rather than completely fair. Force close. Or, you could have cleared DC, have android redo all the apps in about 25 seconds... And win.

Fail.

Also noticed some people say something about themes... That's another thing which falls into clearing cache... Odex vs DeOdex... So many scenarios in which any source of saying Dalvik Cache in a Linux subsystem is moot... is WRONG.

Go to unix... (iOS)... Don't worry about any cache. You will be in heaven. /derp
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
i think the same thing can be said about fixing permisiions

---------- Post added at 05:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:11 PM ----------

my missus has the s2, and ive been updating and modging with it for ages, but i dont get into the community there, ive not even posted, just thanked here and there, my community is here in the evo 3d forums (for now) but even here, the odd few pounce on a noob question.......remember for those reading "we all start somewhere"
[HTC EVO 3D] AndroHero:
You need to keep in mind, alot of regular users get sick of answering the same questions over and over again. A simple search would answer many of the "noob questions" without cluttering up the forums :)
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
thats fair enough, my signature has stated that for months and months, but, google can give you a thousand results not always specific, at least here you ask a question, thats based on the same rom, kernel, theme etc etc as other users in the same thread,

is it not better to save time and not be "negative" and just ignore the question completley

---------- Post added at 05:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:37 PM ----------

a lot of these techniques and tricks were needed in earlier android development, but developers iron these sort of things out in releases, and updates
[HTC EVO 3D] yourbrotherrex:
Fyi, the reason I brought up the ET4G/SGS2 forum had absolutely nothing to do with "noob questions". My problem with the Forums over there is only that there's so, so much blind fanboyism for the phone. (As in "Nothing will EVER touch the ET4G, it's 100% perfect in every way, and everything else is inferior, hurrdurhurr... ")

Like I was saying, I love the phone, but fanboys of any kind make my skin crawl.

As far as noobs go, I have no problem whatsoever with them. We're all still noobs about something.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
yeah i was agreeing with you, ive been flashing custom roms on symbisn, winmo and android for years, i keep regularly updated inboth here and the s2 forums,but....................yh there is a hell of a lot more development in the s2 compared to cdma & gsm e3d together, but even so, the evo3d kicks the stick thin gs2's ass in my opinion
[HTC EVO 3D] universallyhot:
already done for me now

Latley when im flashing a rom 4ext wipes both caches for me automatically once its flashed.
[HTC EVO 3D] SensiMike:
im a noob to this world and for me, even though google searches can turn up a ton of non-relevant links, it can however lead me to answers for other questions i may have had or resources for that i may have been searching for prior.

ive been lurking on this forum for over 4 months now, downloading, flashing, learning; i just registered, feeling a little comfortable having some basics down. but as a noob i take every word in the OP with weight & when its not specific (with the same consistency, i.e. not every ROM is laid out with the same specs & instruction); it leads me to search for more answers, which in turn leads to LEARNING!

its true, alot of noobs dont have the patience to read through a 100 page post to find that one little answer, but on the flip, if those questions (that have already been answered & discussed) arent so easily posted, then there may not be so many irrelevant post for a noob to sift through. but often times a noobs question in the middle or end of a lengthy post more than likely was answered 50 pages ago if they wouldve bothered to read or search the thread.

anyways, if you think you have it bad over here; go to qbking77's youtube page, that guy is a saint & a baby sitter; the questions that guy has to answer wouldve had all my hair out. but i want to thank all that put in the time over here because its truly a wealth of shared knowledge & experience over here that makes this forum so enjoyable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zolah:
Just done a speed test on my nexus with the speedtest app and I got a speed of 1544kbps download and 440kbps upload ... is this speed OK over 3g? Or is this kinda slow. I'm not too sure what speed I should be getting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nodstuff:
Below are my 3g speeds. Depends where you are, signal, whether or not there is a lot of bandwidth available etc.

Yesterday I was getting speeds closer to yours in the exact same place I got the 7mbps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
does your signal indicator say 3G or H, thats perfectly fine for 3g
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
Also.. what carrier?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nodstuff:
Orange.... like it says beside his post....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
Those don't show up on the XDA app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imnuts:
Those aren't always right either. I've seen several people posting with Sprint and ATT carrier logos when they have Verizon service.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgalan14:
For cdma is good for GSM tho seems slow since I just to get between 3-8mbps on ATT
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zolah:
That is with the H icon... hspda or wot ever it is... just ran it again and got similar speed...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
the only way to know if its a "good" speed is if you can compare to a different phone on the same network near you, or another phone, swapping your SIM into it to test.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aiwapro:
What speeds do you all see on the Galaxy Nexus? I am considering getting this, and using it on T-Mobile. I replied to some other posts about this, but didn't really get firm responses. I have a HTC Amaze, and see speeds in the 18Mbps area, and 3 - 6 in a bad coverage area. The Amaze supports HSPA+ 42, and the Galaxy Nexus HSPA+ 21. Will I see 18Mbps on the Galaxy Nexus, or 7 - 8 like most people post. Of course, T-Mobile is the only U.S. carrier with HSPA+ 42.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pinoyplaya4life:
My T-Mobile Monthly4G speed is attached. First test in Spokane, WA
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
You will see 7-8mbps real-world. Max out around ~12mbps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adamhlj:
Where are you located? I think you will be disappointed with the nexus speeds if you are getting those kinds of speeds on your Amaze. I have averaged between 1 and 3 Mbps down in minneapolis.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Thats far far below the average for T-Mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgalan14:
I just got T-Mobile and waiting to get a galaxy nexus on it (I had sprint and I'm please with speeds )
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qwsdert4:
third party ROMs have "uncap 3G speed" settings, checking it may(just may) help:)