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[Nokia Lumia 800] pikachukaki:
No m8 we test it with the back cover off...we tested a million ways...in some other forum they told me that they low volume problem will be fixed in some newer fw update!!
[Nokia Lumia 800] brianpee:
Well seeing he just bought it, can't he exchange it? I personally have a Lumia 710 and it plays music pretty decently as long as I don't cover the speaker.
[Nokia Lumia 800] nithin1992:
The sound isn't so loud. You'll have to get used to it, at least for now

Sent from my Lumia 710 using Board Express
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okmijnlp:
I'm using Fluxi kernel, and I've noticed that after flashing other Kernels, the screen is considerably darker. Does Fluxi make the screen brighter or do certain other Kernels make the screen darker? Cheers.
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
CONSIDER THIS THREAD CLOSED

Let me first be clear: I think it's awesome that a phone like the MyTouch 4g was released at a 2.2 phone and has ended up being upgraded to 4.0.4. Let me also take the time to thank the developers involved in this effort. It's hard work and sometimes it sucks to be a dev, and I thank you.

That being said, there are something like 10 ICS ROMS in the development section right now with any combination of

Sense 4

Stock ICS

MIUI

Themed variations

and what do they all have in common? The camera doesn't work properly, the bluetooth is sketchy, and the whole thing is a little crashy in the soft-reboot sense of the word.

My question is this: Why are we releasing so many variations of the same problem when the first one didn't work correctly anyway?

Especially ...Awesome... . I think it's awesome that you want to release like 5 different ICS ROMS, but what does one bring to the table that the other one doesn't? If I'm totally off base here, let me know, but this is what I see from a ROM flasher prospective.

Anyway, end rant and I'm sorry if I offended anybody.
[myTouch 4G General] I2IEAILiiTY:
I realized this too, but hey, they can do whatever they want.

I mean I know why they aren't completely functional and stable, but I'm confused as to why we've became so obsessed with ICS that we have 50 different ICS ROMs and pretty much all of them are the same just with different settings or whatever. That's why I've been on GB sense for like the past week or two.
[myTouch 4G General] trofmoc:
Things in common

As stated-many roms share problems. As a lover of mt4g anything that keeps my phone alive is progress. Sure ics has camera and some other isssues,but as we all should know and have all been told"this is a work in progress". Many folks = many efforts= different outcomes. Not all ics have reboots,not all have "the camera problem" most do but work arounds exist is some cases. We can always go back to gb. Remember when some gb had camera problems? In time all gets worked out. Besides no arm twisting is done to make us use a rom,it's a matter of personal choice. Am content to wait till camera fix is out but will continue to use ics. Thanks to all the fellas who work for free and express their individuality with the work produced. "drive on"
[myTouch 4G General] rockstarar:
Yes. This is me too.

--sent from my glacier.
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
Actually, every ICS ROM in the development forum has the camera problem. The "camera problem" being the total lack of video capture unless you use a third party program and capture in VGA resolution at less than 10 fps. As far as I'm concerned, that means the video camera doesn't work, and there isn't a ROM that's worked around this.

Also, so far I've used at least five different ICS ROMS and all of them seem to have soft reboot problems of some sort. Some worse than others, but its there. Usually having to do with the browser or programs that use the stock browser.
[myTouch 4G General] jjbadd385:
Since a camera don't mean anything to me...I am using sense 4 hybrid, which is suprisingly very stable, minus the camera of course. But my wife on the other hand, has to have a camera, so I put sense 3.5 on hers, which is basically perfect in functionality.
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
I literally just flashed that Sense 4 Hybrid, and it about blew my ear off with the music on the boot screen.........
[myTouch 4G General] DonDizzurp:
lack of a kernel prevents certain hardware from working correctly

however, i do agree that there are WAY too many SIMILAR roms (and some from the same dev, too). itd be nice to try to put all your resources on one AOSP, one AOKP/CM9, and one ICS-Sense.. teamwork! community! linux:D!

to each thier own, i guess. lets appreciate all the ROMs.. because if we didnt have any devs still working here wed be a lot more annoyed :p
[myTouch 4G General] estallings15:
On the bright side, as fixes are found/created the existing ROMs can be patched and you'll have more functioning ROMs to choose from. Also, these guys went from ports to compiling and then they started modding framework-res.apk's and SystemUI.apk's for theming. Essentially, if they hadn't done all this work their knowledge would not have progressed like it has. Now they will be able to use those skills to continue to benefit the whole community if they choose.
[myTouch 4G General] ...Awesome...:
Wow total lack of respect from a NOBODY! Don't worry ill have all my threads closed and good luck with this phone stay on stock for all I care name 1 single thing u have contributed to this community besides u whinning and complaining about everything good luck to this community and the rest of the devs that are still here... This is the last you guys will have heard from me... GOOD LUCK! !

Sent from my ROOTIE TOOTIE FRESH 'N FRUITY GLACIER
[myTouch 4G General] invasion2:
Way to go fellas...say goodbye to Awesome. Anyway, do yo guys read the ICS OPs? Here is a nice quote that explains stuff. Bit seriously. Be thankful for ICS....posts like these make us feel unappreciated.
[myTouch 4G General] gbondoc:
Though I respect and agree with you I really hope you're kidding because if your not I'm probably gonna cry. How am I supposed to sh*t rainbows now!?

I have half a mind to hurl insults at the OP(Way Off Base) as if I were in a drunken rage. Not only did he offend but he called out a Dev which is uncalled for. You can say sorry for offending someone all you want but your sorrys, and you for a matter of fact haven't done sh*t for our device. I don't believe you have the right to rant seeing as how you have contributed nothing and possibly just cost the MT4G one of its best devs. I hope we still have developers that are not fed up with us.
[myTouch 4G General] estallings15:
Well, damn....

Please mind the collective ego of the Dev's here. It bruises pretty easily. I tried to make the point earlier that all that work is very useful because it hones their skills, but I guess it was already too late. I sincerely hope we haven't lost another one.

Don't forget that, basically the best ICS kernel we have came from a mod that ...Awesome... did on the Tiamat kernel

Also http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1641147
[myTouch 4G General] ...Awesome...:
The point I'm trying to make is non of you guys know what goes on behind the scenes you just have people like the OP to complain about any little thing... For example who here's noticed elginsk8r had his own cyanogen kernel on his cm9 Rom?? Who here knows that THEindian is working on the vkernel? Who here knows blackwing and I are trying to compile a kernel for the camcorder to work? Who here noticed if u flash elginsk8r kernel u get semi working camcorder don't say we aren't working together on fixes if u guys knew all and every little thing we all are doing and don't come out publicly and say it doesn't mean we aren't working together because WE ARE because it benefits all of us not just 1 person
[myTouch 4G General] invasion2:
Amen. Honestly people. Patience...
[myTouch 4G General] playdrums:
my 2¢

I personally didn't think the OP was disrespectful. I think a number of devs are probably feeling similar frustrations even if from a different perspective.

I do think it is up to each user to decide to try new ROMs. If they don't work for you, then its a non-starter - go back to what works for you without complaint.

I also think it is important to remember that there are many different types of users - always. I am a software developer and I hit the same thing in my work. Some people are just looking for a solid ROM - and lack much understanding of the underlying complexity. That they're here at all places them way beyond the average smartphone buyer.

Others are Android jockies - here every day (even every minute) with a lot of their life revolving around ROM dev/swapping. It's probably important to them how they're perceived in this community.

Constructive criticism will and can be received differently by everyone within that spectrum.

Personally, I think it's great to have lots of options - it will end up serving everyone. At the level of experience I have (little!), I have gotten confused when the ROM thread titles are cute and don't indicate what they are - or their lineage. When I dig in and read the threads, there's definitely good ICS options there.
[myTouch 4G General] trofmoc:
HMMMMM

I DON'T PAY BUT I USE, I DON'T FIX,BUT I COMPLAIN - IF IT DON'T WORK I'M READY FOR A QUICK FIX. TOO MANY CHOICES[somethings wrong]. NOT ENOUGH CHOICES[someone's lazy]. go to any other android forum and see how many folks are interested in mt4g. HARDLY ANY. PLEASE BE GLAD FOR WHAT WE HAVE.:cool:
[myTouch 4G General] jjbadd385:
I for one would like to say that I feel almost ashamed, that I use these roms, and I don't say thank you enough. Let me be honest, because at my age, its hard to fall asleep at night, having told a lie. I'm struggling right now, keeping my power on, & feeding my family. I'm laid off and looking for work, and while I would love to donate to these devs for their work, I simply don't have the money. But as soon as I do, I will gladly. I'm not looking for pity, just being honest. But a big thanks to all devs, porters, mods, anyone that devotes time here, because that's something I do know, time is a precious thing that shouldn't be taken for granted..
[myTouch 4G General] I2IEAILiiTY:
I don't think the OP was being disrespectful or intended to.

I see where he's coming from b/c there are a lot of ICS ROMs with common issues. Like we don't need three different AOKP ROMs for example, and if anything, it's gotta be hard on ...Awesome... to track progress for the fact he has several ICS builds and different threads, at least that's what I think, which is why I agree with the OP when he calls ...Awesome... out like that b/c all of his ROMs are basically the same, just w/ different "flavors" so it seems. If it was me, I'd put out just one ROM and give you guys no choice at all. If you really want all the silly things like themes and stuff, then do it yourself.

The vanilla ROM, is perfect. AOKP is fine. CM9, great. But ****ting Rainbows and Rootie Tootie (which is bloated to the max IMO) are unnecessary, esp. since it doesn't fix any of the core problems such as RR and SoD's and etc. and that only adds more threads to keep up with and distracts you from the things that really do matter. Yea it's cool and neat that you can get a ton of extra add ons into the ROM, but don't put all your work into just trying to make those silly settings and stuff work.

And another thing, ICS is a neat little project for our device, but if you want all that other **** and keep acting like you absolutely need to have ICS fully functional on this old outdated phone, then either A) go back to GB and be content w/ that until ICS is out of

BETA

or B) get a new damn phone, like everyone else has been doing. We're obsessed w/ ICS when we have perfectly, fully functional GB ROMs that devs have worked hard on too, like sckboy for example. He's still putting out GB ROMs and I bet some of you guys aren't aware of this at all b/c the ICS threads stay at the top of the forums pretty much.
[myTouch 4G General] ...Awesome...:
Thanks man and like I've said before nobody here is doing it for money/donations specially me I do it for people to have a variety and its a hobby for me that I love doing...

I have a

Sense rom for all u sense freaks

AOSP & a AOKP rom for u ics fans

Cm9 rom

Variety!!! if it bothered the OP so much that theirs variety don't flash non of my ROMS thank you again and ill say it again as long as in my count 1 person is still using ANY of my roms ill keep updating them ENOUGH with this thread and the OP. Till he contributes 1 thing to this community he should be allowed to complain!!! As far as ANY other person in this community instead of complaining about a feature offer a suggestion the best one ive hear came yesterday when someone said they needed wifi calling for daily use sure they reported the same problem AGAIN but atleast he made a suggestion on how to fix it or try to fix it...

Sent from my ROOTIE TOOTIE FRESH 'N FRUITY GLACIER
[myTouch 4G General] 0.0:
I've always wondered how hard it is to keep up with all the ics roms. I find it tough. One or two ics roms per dev should be enough. The devs must be going berserk trying to keep up with all roms they have out. Focusing on just one will help get lots of bugs fixed that can be passed down to other devs to use. My opinion, and I do thank all the devs for working hard on it. Its a blessing to have ics, honestly :)

Sent from my myTouch 4G
[myTouch 4G General] saranhai:
It surprises me how there are about twice as many ICS ROMs over in the Galaxy S GT-i9000 forums, but the users over there are way more appreciative than most of the people here. Why is that?

And yes, while the ROMs over there are more functional with pretty much everything working, users here aren't happy that they even have ICS ROMs available for them.

Some of the greatest developers once had a Mytouch 4G, TDJ, Faux123, eViL D etc. But guess what? They've moved on, and new developers have risen. Maybe we aren't as good as they are, but hey, we got ICS working pretty darn well right now. Look over at the Mytouch 3G Slide forums, they don't even have a booting ICS yet. Even most of their Gingerbread ROMs have issues.

Showing appreciation:

We don't expect anybody to donate! That's not the reason we're here for. Of course, donations are always welcomed and much appreciated, a simple thanks button or post already tells us a lot.

"Constructive Criticism"?

I personally accept those, they help me improve my work. But what I

DO NOT

accept are posts complaining. There's a difference between the two.

"When will this/that feature be added in? When will this/that be fixed?"

Not happy with our current WIP/BETA? Then go make a fix/mod yourself, after all, things made by yourself are generally the best suited for you. Too lazy? Then you shouldn't even be here.
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
Whoa there, ego check. If you look at the very first paragraph of my post, I thank all of the devs and that means YOU ...Awesome... for everything you do. I'm running your Sense 4 ROM right now, and it's pretty sweet so far. So let me be clear as F!@# right now:

I LOVE YOU DEVS. WITHOUT YOU I'D BE ON STOCK 2.2 RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT YOU MY G1 WOULD HAVE BEEN RUNNING 1.6 INSTEAD OF 2.3 BEFORE I GOT RID OF IT.

Maybe if I put it in caps you'll catch it this time.

I have no problem repeating what I already said, but what I won't do is apologize while you're accusing me of "whining and complaining", being a "NOBODY". I don't feel like I said anything that wasn't true. I did call you out as an example, but you aren't the only person doing it. My point was that I simply don't see the point of releasing 18000 ROMS all with the same problems and slightly different themes or kernels.

Now you can make the argument that I have no place to say something like that, and from a dev community standpoint, you might be right, however, I didn't post in the development forum. I posted in the forum where flashers might reside, and until you came in here and threw a tantrum, nobody disagreed with me. Some flew in to the rescue even threatening to kill me because they didn't want to lose you as a dev. Sorry if what I said didn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy, but it's the general feeling about the state of ICS ROMS around here, not a bash on your devving skills or any sort of disrespect.

I don't feel like I gave any disrespect and I don't feel that I deserved any from you in return.
[myTouch 4G General] THEindian:
Ok dude, i really dont want to flame and a mod is probably going to delete this but this is my take.

For the most part, what everybody else said was right. awesome does have a bunch of roms out but NOBODY told you that you had to use any of them. actually awesome probably would prefer that you dont use them at this point lol.

I think a lot of people dont know the amount of work that goes into making on rom or mod. Its really not just making it in the first place, the hard part is suporting it. It gets harder when you encounter people that seem to have their heart bent n destroying your project. Not easy. Part of the reason i left the mytouch forums for the more pleasant desire forums. I came back because i thought i was focusing on the negatives. Maybe i was right.

Whatever dude, he might have a bunch of roms out, if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything. Just pick the one you like and shut up....
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
Just pick one I like and shut up? So why are these called forums in the first place then. Might as well just make your own website and just have a download page with no comments section. I'm sorry if everybody here doesn't just copy/paste "WOW, thanks so much, great work" into every post, but again, I don't feel like I said anything out of disrespect, just observation.

Disrespect: **** ...Awesome... and all his bull**** malfunctioning ROMS.

Observation: There are a lot of ROMS out there with the same problems.

Obvious difference.

I really did start this thread out trying to feel out if I was the only one experiencing this phenomenon, but now I'm actually starting to get irritated.
[myTouch 4G General] invasion2:
Ok everyone calm down a bit...

This forum has problems. They aren't very grateful, for anything really. I'm no singling out anyone inparticual, but some certain people get mad over small things e.g. "BLUETOOTH ISN'T WORKING?! PoS ROM!!" When people complain that's how developers see it. Just be grateful. No wonder the Virtuous Team left :rolleyes:
[myTouch 4G General] gbondoc:
Well don't worry I'm sure this thread will be closed very soon, and to say that YOU are now getting irritated smh. You sir are a truly different breed, the leader of the mislead if you ask me.
[myTouch 4G General] invasion2:
Yeah this will get closed. Mr.Highway or reaper will be here any second.
[myTouch 4G General] saranhai:
Excuse me?

Although I am not ...Awesome... I am very offended by the way you decided to treat one of my Team Members because he expressed his feelings.

The way you treat our work is like as if it was no effort at all, we're doing this for free remember? Nobody today is asking you to pay to use one of our ROMs.

Let me put this in CAPS and Bold so you can clearly see what i had already posted before:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE OUR WORK AND COMPLAIN IT'S TOO BUGGY/CRAP, THEN GO MAKE A ROM YOURSELF, BECAUSE THINGS MADE BY YOURSELF ARE MOST LIKELY BEST SUITED FOR YOU.
[myTouch 4G General] :
What a big pissing match this has become. That's why threads like these don't belong here. Someone voiced an opinion and the **** hit the fan and now its a gang up and roast this mofo. I can say that I fully understood his explanation. He meant no disrespect. It was just an example. I'm doing this for fun. No claim to fame. Don't want to be top dog. This **** is taken too seriously anymore. On both sides of the fence, you guys are taking the fun out of it. What happened to the excitement you got when you see a new rom? The excitement of your first successful port? When you see the boot screen? It's way too damn serious anymore. It's almost like this forum is going corporate on me. Sink or swim. Little man drowns. Just enjoy what you have.
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
I simply don't understand what the hell is going on in this thread. The point of a forum is to have discussions. Discussions don't happen by people who all agree with one another. I didn't come in here flinging my own crap at the devs, and to be honest with you, I don't see where this superiority complex came into effect. Yes, you're a dev and I'm a user, I get it, but even the president of the US has to listen to its citizens and the CEO of a company has to listen to its stock holders and the board.

I understand that these devs are doing this stuff because they like it or because they want to improve the device they are using from day to day, but to release a ROM on a FORUM and not expect a discussion about it is misguided. To take it a step further and have hostility toward me is insane.
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
You are misinterpreting my post. That was an example of what I didn't say in my OP and what I didn't mean in the slightest. The second statement was my intention. But let's sling some more crap my way by way of misinterpretation, why not.

Also, I don't think this thread should be closed, I think it should stay open as an example of how not to use a forum and treat a user.
[myTouch 4G General] :
Please read his post that I quoted. It is his explanation. Read it with an open mind. With that said...I'm out! Peace, one love. It's been fun. I'm leaving. Add my **** to the classics.
[myTouch 4G General] estallings15:
Sad to see you go sckboy. Drop me a line on gtalk sometime. Your work has always been top notch and your BS meter easily pegged. I like that.
[myTouch 4G General] DonDizzurp:
some people are never satisfied.. give them everything and they still want more

dont let a few people get to you, the majority of us know how much work and time you all put in to give our phones a damn good life
[myTouch 4G General] DKMikey:
It's funny how a sound argument can be misinterpreted as an offensive attack towards a certain group. I think this whole thread needs a chill pill and a perspective from a logical mind. Instead of writing what you think immediately, read a post two times, wait 10 minutes to reply, read it twice again, and then reply.

Making XDA a better place, one post at a time.
[myTouch 4G General] Don_Perrignon:
1. The OP meant no harm. He made an observation.

2. Devs took a post the wrong way, as usual.

3. We ALL KNOW how much hard work devs put into our ROMs.

4. We all are grateful about point 3 and thank you with excitement and respect.

5. ROM users need devs and devs need ROM users.

6. Everyone should fall back and keep doing what they're doing. Users - keep flashing. Devs - keep showcasing your talent.

7. I sprained my pinky finger today.
[myTouch 4G General] THEindian:
Awww, poor pinky finger :-)
[myTouch 4G General] DonDizzurp:
now this i can understand
[myTouch 4G General] Bangincrazy:
Threads like this are the reason I have stopped using anyones Roms that are on here. People voice their opinion on curtain subjects and then the devs act like children saying they will no longer dev anymore. Grow up, you will not last a day in the regular work force. Learn to let things go or to ignore them and to move on.
[myTouch 4G General] THEindian:
Workforce=Make Money

Deving=NO MONIES!

There is quite a difference my friend
[myTouch 4G General] Bangincrazy:
So either you do this for fun and like to share with people, hey look I got this working or you don't. Simple as that. Guess what in the real world, you WILL get a project which you will put all ur sweat and hard work into and yes, you will probably get lots of praise and thanks for an awesome job done but there will always be someone who has criticism, will bash your work. You can piss and moan like some of you are right now or grow up and overcome it.

If you can take the praise for stuff, learn to take criticism and complains as well. If you can't handle the heat, stay the hell out of the kitchen!
[myTouch 4G General] jbdubbs:
I wouldn't even call it bashing. It was more like an observation. Either way I agree, if you don't want your work criticized, take it off a public forum.