yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android SD Development] melando:
Thanks makes sense
[HD2 Android SD Development] HTCHD2V:
I experienced some FC's and choose to froze "autokill memory". Now all apps work properly, except HD videos on Youtube (this is a known issue).

I cleared davlik-cache, and after that, system boot time increased, and "android is upgrading" appears. Tried "fix permission" and boot 5-6 times, but no effect. Can someone help me to resolve this problem?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Did you change the kernel? Sometimes the folders you put in root folder aren't deleted by the build and the kernel re-installs, so you have to manually delete them.

Hope it helps
[HD2 Android SD Development] melando:
I see a new Tytung kernel in parent thread, any experiences of changing in SD build?
[HD2 Android SD Development] HTCHD2V:
No, I have not changed anything, and folder "root" is empty. I choose to delete dalvik-cache, because upgraded from previous version and experienced some FC's. When changing kernel or updating from other version, the system upgrades applications, and they are counted, but I see only "Android upgrading... Starting applications" which normally appears after upgrading applications.
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
wis1152, this is a good port. I'd tried v0.6 and v1.0 - Honestly, I liked the concept, but thought they both sucked (understood - no fault of yours). Now, using this in hybrid mode, Apex launcher, and re-tuned my SetCPU settings. It's fast. No FC's, responsive screen, no lag. I'm liking this v1.1a, a lot... so far. :)

Thank you!

Edit: (clarified text above)...

Still smoooooth. Whoa! This can't be real... must be my imagination. (I hate to gush). :D Too good, there's gotta be something wrong. Will post more tomorrow,

Edit: Discovered Autokiller... a very nice set of utilities. Thanks for making it available. This'll take a little time to get a handle on; Six of ten tweaks enabled; so far so good. And, finally nice to be able to tweak tytung's sysctrl & I/O scheduler -always easily done via Rom Toolbox with DM's kernels - but the settings never stuck with tytung's - till now. BTW upgraded to tytung's new kernel HWA r2.5 - all this should keep me busy for a while. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Donal:
USB-Debuggingmodus

Hi,

first of all I'm impressed. This ist the best ICS-ROM I've tested. Android is getting slower the more Apps are installed. In Paranoidandroid I couldn't find this behaviour (up to now :-).

Big THANKS for the Chef.

It is a quick and high sophisticated ROM.

But - I encountered a problem. I tried to sync with MyPhoneExplorer. So I switched on the USB-Debuggingmodus. But my PC doesn't recognize the Phone on USB and on the Phone the sign for debuggingmodus doesn't come up, as I expected by connecting to USB. On other ICS flavours, this is working fine.

Does someone have a hint, what I could do?

Thx
[HD2 Android SD Development] ribou:
Not important, but ... :confused:

At various times, after boot and unlock phone, the home screen is blank, and I have to manipulate the hardkeys to bring up icons (with v1.1a and not with 1.1)
[HD2 Android SD Development] melando:
Please feedback experience
[HD2 Android SD Development] tonic72:
All is OK, but Google does not Talk to me!

I hope I am the only one here having this issue, but in case you can help me I would very appreciate :

When trying to use Google Talk, I get -> Google Talk does not work. "Connection interrupted - Status updates temporarily unavailable".

Currently running 1.1 but I am not sure it worth to go to 1.1a, in any case it's always better and better, many thanks!
[HD2 Android SD Development] ChitownWingMan:
Problems with 1.1a

After my troubles with 1.1 rebooting constantly 1.1a installed beautifully. Worked the 1st time.

However, all is not roses. Sometimes after the phone has been off for some time (either by time out or power button) the phone will not turn on again.

The only way to get the phone back on is to pull the battery or press the reset button.

The following tweaks are enabled:

Hybrid Mode: Disabled

Soft keys: Disabled

Tablet UI Features: Disabled

Physical keys (use touch keys): Disabled

Android Debugging: Enabled

Stay Awake: Enabled

Allow mock locations: Enabled

Window Animation: Disabled

Transition Animation: Disabled

Kill app back button: Enabled

Max CPU: 1190

SetCPU on Boot: Enabled

Kernel samepage merging: Enabled

zRam: Disabled

Allow purging: Disbled

Background Processes: Default

This is a great build. If I can get this problem solved then it will be perfect.

Thanks....
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
I've listed my settings above (in contrast).

Apex launcher is smooth... also have Nova launcher setup, but haven't yet used it a lot with this build. 'Autokiller' has a nice set of tweaks & tools (to use judiciously), I'm still learning... and always experimenting. Everything is always a work in process. :)

I'd had to set a custom (usually 240 HDPI) dpi, with a few apps... Other than that, no issues or problems I've found. One days use doesn't 'say' very much - but we'll see... I'm liking this port a lot.

Good Luck with it,

Rob

Edit - Additional info: uninstalled SetCPU (after months of use with other ROMs). Setting scaling 245-1036 via PA settings. Using DM's Hyper Governor.

(PA Performance) Memory management - zRam @default 18%. Allow asset purging enabled, Kernel samepage merging enabled.

Developer options : Background process limit Standard. All animations off. Don't force GPU rendering.

Autokiller kernel tweaks : Advanced mode enabled, Apply on boot, 2 min delay, SD card speedup enabled, Memory management tweaks enabled, Battery tweaks enabled, Sleeper (disable normalized) enabled but testing, Network tuning enabled, Wifi scan set to 3min enabled.

Don't enable any Scheduler tweaks with DM's kernel. - all else unchecked/disabled.

So far... still snappy & decidedly better with Dorimanx's Kernel than with Tytung's (for this build at least).
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Please read THIS from RobE.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ChitownWingMan:
I will try your settings and also your post referred to in another message about minimum speed for setCPU. I have never had this problem with any other build using the standard min and max b4efore.

I'm not sure but the problem only seems to happen when the USB cable is plugged in and the phone is charging and I manually turn the phone off.

I will update you further as I investigate more.

thanks for your help
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
When my phone is plugged-in to USB (charging) - if I actuate the on/off button the devices response is instantaneous. No guarantees, my settings will work for you, buy hey! - you never know. :)

(a Thumbs-Up 'thanks' is always nice - but who's counting) :D

Good luck - Looking forward to learning of your results... and don't forget to reboot (at least) once or twice after making significant settings changes.

Regards, -Rob
[HD2 Android SD Development] HTCHD2V:
Can you share your Autokiller settings (with Tytung 2.5)?

I am very happy with the speed of Dorimanx 6.9, but when I forget to limit background processes, the problems begin.

I greatly admire Tytung's work for the best possible stability, but in Paranoid I can't get his kernel to run faster.
[HD2 Android SD Development] gasanpride:
Same here. I find Tytung's 2.5 is bit slow for PNA 1.1a. So I installed back Dori's 6.9 HWA.
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
Forget that... (not that it's bad advice... it's good advice :) - but READ or REVIEW THIS THREAD ... almost everyone can learn and benefit from this info here... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=19846297
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
I'd be happy to share my settings but I think it's a bit too soon; Maybe in a day or so. More time would be helpful (for me) to understand what's working well (or not)... but, you guys shouldn't be afraid to experiment with your own settings. Read the FAQ, look at the Webpage - play around with it, and try what makes 'sense' to you.

Fwiw... I don't have any specialized or esoteric knowledge. I'm just another enthusiast but I read a lot, and I'm not afraid to experiment. It's usually three steps forward and one step back.

@ HTCHD2V - I don't limit background processes at all. (Yeah, I've read about it)... I think the OS should be able to handle itself well enough (if the ROM and kernel are good), and 'other' (user or mis-set system) settings or apps don't muck things up.

Both of you guys should know... Dorimanx and Tytung kernels run the CPU at the same potential speeds - they use different I/O scheduler and sysctrl settings by default. Tytung I/O-S defaults to cfq, and Dorimanx to deadline. They're both good kernels depending upon ones use of them. DM's tuning is more aggressive. He tweaks his setups for higher performance - which may get you into trouble. That's why 'limiting' background processes can be helpful - but not really necessary if other settings are used to balance things out. Tytung's kernel (by default) uses less aggressive settings and so... seems slower, but... it doesn't have to be that way either.

Again, these are just my observations and don't necessarily mirror anyone else's experience. Plenty of folks here have forgotten more than I'll ever know. I'm just having fun with the journey. :)

BTW, You should check-out the link posted above this post. I've just uninstalled SetCPU. Now setting the Governor and Min & Max CPU speeds via PA system settings... going to let Hyper (Governor) manage it's own 'profile', and not change Governors for different operational states. We'll see what happens. :) ...and will post more later.

Rob

Edit: Listed most settings in post #337... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26851952&postcount=337
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
V6 supercharger

Has anyone tried this on SD?

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/make-the-best-out-of-your-android-device-with-v6-supercharger/

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/supercharger-v6-now-ics-compatible/

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] HTCHD2V:
I played 2-3 hours with the "Autokill" settings, governors, I/O, SD Card cache, etc. but it is still laggy.

Now I go back to Dorimanx, but will try again Tytung with your suggestions.

Thanks in advance :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] melando:
I already asked this, no responses yet though. Why do you ask - have you used it with other ROMs?
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Robbie has tried it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Hi Szczepanik, there are mixed reports about v6.

If there are lags with apps opening eg phone app in tostidroid is sometimes slow to open and makes it difficult to make a quick call. If you bulletproof the phone app the phone opens instantly. It is worth installing just for this. As for overall speed increase with 100% supercharge, ymmv;)

Take care though to backup before trying in case you mess up.

See also http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25950803&postcount=2016 and respect to HypoTurtle for getting it to work with the odexed build
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Supercharger - Supermanager

Melando I did search this PA SD thread for "supercharge" before posting but no-one had used it - see Screenshot of search results. I asked because famewolf quoted in my original post had positive results on the main PA thread. We are all looking for the best/better results for our use. ICS & PA are faster and have more features than GB or WM. Like many on these SD threads I still use WM for daily use few programs with phone in my pocket & Android haret for fun. If my bluetooth did not have 60ma battery drain with Android (GB & ICS) I might switch but... meanwhile I have fun!

According to zeppelinrox original V6 Supercharger thread: Do not modify it, do not rebrand it (ie. It's not called "V6script"). I think your post referred to "supermanager" and "superscript" not "supercharge". I assume they are different?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=16635544

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
I've read that android (the OS itself), does a great job of managing memory. Each app is run in its own space and the OS frees-up and makes memory available to each process that requests (something of) CPU time and RAM. There's a lot (I mean A LOT) going on under the surface apart from user apps, system processes are always churning away doing something. ICS has far more overhead than earlier android OS's.

Personally, I have over eighty user apps installed, and keep a number of different utilities to help me manage my user experience. Many of these utilities have overlapping functions (it's just how it is)... But... I've found that many of the apps that I've installed - set themselves up to run at startup. many of these, I don't need to run at startup - I'll run them when I want to use them, and not until. I don't need them to load at boot, to take up RAM, CPU and I/O scheduler time. Maybe, some of this type of overhead could be the cause of your own devices lack of responsiveness. Just a thought.

And here's a suggestion - that you use some rooted utility like System Tuner, or ES Task Manager or Rom Toolbox or whatever to... take a look at your own startup apps, and disable those that you know - you don't need running at boot.

I've disabled over twenty apps from starting. I don't need them to start until I pull the trigger, and I'm not experiencing any lag from this version of PA. If it was a drag for me... I'd have gone back to IceCreamTosti psuedo SR v1.1 B36, that was fast... but so is this, and I like the UI. :)

Fwiw... Hope this helps (but Standard Disclaimer - no guarantees). Good luck with it.

Rob

Edit: I've just gone back to the Dorimanx V6.9 Kernel (had to try Tytung's newest, but after spending the day with it)... I find this is considerably more responsive. I've noticed folks using other ROMs have done similarly, and I agree, it would be a good idea for you also. Imho. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
V6 Supercharger

Robbie P thank you for this. I remembered HypoTurtle's post and was one of only three to press his Thanks button on it but it was about using V6 Supercharger with TostiDroid M5 SE and (to someone like me) the process looked complicated and the services.odex file he attached was for that specific build and not PA.

I can see the great advantage to being able to bulletproof the phone app. I had to reboot PA v1.1a back to WM yesterday because I could not make a call and have had some locking up problems again today. I think I will remove autokill memory as it does not seem to be helping but first I will try and emulate RobE settings:

Post #337

This HD2 SD Android ICS community is great! :)

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] HTCHD2V:
1. I usually use only 1 utility, and froze it after work is done. Then I use another utility for other needs. For daily use, I keep only a utility which helps me to resolve some problems, or increases speed a lot.

2. I always manage startup apps (on any OS, including Windows :) )

One interesting thing I found. With Dorimanx kernel, RAM is 401MB, with Tytung - 403MB!
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
1.) & 2.) - Ok, I got it...

The memory difference > maybe interesting; I don't claim to know why - but don't think it's meaningful.

I see you're using Tablet Mode. Didn't work too well for me (with prior release). You might try Hybrid Mode instead. I'd bet (figuratively speaking) :) that it runs better for you. At least I'd hope it would.

Regards,

---------- Post added at 09:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:45 AM ----------

Hope they work for you. :) Post #337 edited & updated.
[HD2 Android SD Development] HTCHD2V:
This is Hybrid Mode (Global density=120 DPI). I fell in love with Paranoid from it's first release for this beautiful and smooth tablet hybrid mode! :)

However, thank you, at least we managed to exchange experiences.
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
Sorry for the assumption. Viewing the split screen and bottom Statusbar - I just thought you were using Tablet mode. Here's a pad.prop screenshot showing some settings I use in Hybrid mode...
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Paranoid / System / AutoKiller Settings

RobE Many thanks - so far so good. These are now my Paranoid / System / AutoKiller Settings for :

[FONT="Courier New"][B][31-05-12][SD/MAG] PARANOIDANDROID HD2 [v1.1a][TABLET/HYBRID][CM9][Dorimanx HWA 6.9]

SETTINGS
INTERFACE
PARANOID SETTINGS
-USER INTERFACE PREFERENCES
--Hybrid Settings[/B]
---Hybrid Mode: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--Softkeys: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--Tablet Mode: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]
[B]-ROM PREFERENCES[/B]
--Physical keys: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]

[B]SYSTEM
DEVELOPER OPTIONS[/B]
-USB Debugging: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
-Stay awake: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
-Allow mock locations: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
[B]USER INTERFACE[/B]
-Force GPU rendering: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]
--Window Animation scale: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Off[/COLOR]
--Transition Animation scale: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Off[/COLOR]
[B]APPS[/B]
-Don't keep activities: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]
-Background Process Limit: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Std[/COLOR]
-Kill app back button: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]

[B]PERFORMANCE
-PROCESSOR[/B]
--CPU Governor: [COLOR="DarkRed"]SMARTASSV2[/COLOR]
--Minimum CPU frequency: [COLOR="DarkRed"]245[/COLOR]
--Maximum CPU frequency: [COLOR="DarkRed"]998[/COLOR]
--Set on boot: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
[B]-MEMORY MANAGEMENT[/B]
--zRAM: [COLOR="DarkRed"]26%[/COLOR]
--Allow purging of assets: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--Kernel samepage merging: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]

[B]ABOUT PHONE[/B]
-Model number: HTC HD2
-Android version: 4.0.4
-Baseband version: 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14
-Kernel version: 2.6.32.59-Dorimanix-V6.9-HWA-ICS-CM9
-CyanogenMod version: ParanoidAndroid
-Build date: mar may 29 09:26:52 COT 2012

[B][U]AUTOKILLER MEMORY[/U][/B]
-Memory: [COLOR="darkred"]Moderate[/COLOR]
--Hidden app: [COLOR="darkred"]30[/COLOR]
--Content provider: [COLOR="darkred"]35[/COLOR]
--Empty app: [COLOR="darkred"]40[/COLOR]
[B]-ADVANCED SYSTEM TWEAKS[/B]
--Apply on boot: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
-- 2 min delay before: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--SD Card (speedup): [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--IO scheduler: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]
--Partitions: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]
--Memory management: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--Scheduler: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]
--Battery: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--Sleeper (disable): [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--UI: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]
--Network: [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
--Wifi (scan 3 mins): [COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]
[/FONT]
"[COLOR="DarkRed"]Y[/COLOR]" is Yes / tick / enabled
"[COLOR="DarkGreen"]N[/COLOR]"is No / not ticked / not enabled

[I]Use these settings at your own risk!
Always backup first![/I]

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
HELP

I feel this need to be said on this great sd thread:)There are many people that may need help, XDA call them "noobs" i call them "beginners" we all use to be them.So if you are a beginner please don't be scared to ask a question, but please :) I've had many question from beginners on PM that are probably scared to post a question but why should they be?

Thanks wis1152(craig)
[HD2 Android SD Development] RobE.:
Glad those settings worked for you Tom! :D The only things I've changed in the interim are listed at the bottom (edit section) of post #337.

Changed the Kernel Governor to Hyper (I know it's specially tuned by DM).

I - O/C the CPU - but only by about 10%.

Changed the zRam compression back to default 18%, instead of the more aggressive 26%. But hey! it's whatever works!!! :)

Regards,

Rob
[HD2 Android SD Development] poyensa:
:)

XDA do not scare beginners. We all have been beginners, and every body is welcome in XDA. Only one condition: please read & understand the forum rules. Questions are not a problem of course, XDA is for share and for learn, and without question there is no learning process ... I want add a nice quote I read today:

Enjoy the journey :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Thanks for you reply my friend:)Enjoy the journey,a very nice quote from another good friend(RobE) Also RobE has made me aware of Tytungs new R3 kernel see below:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kanishkapd:
hi wis,

links are not working :o

edit: mediafire started to work. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Tzatlacael:
I renamed folder Droid to ParanoidAndroid and also changed the path on startup.txt

Booted.

And I don‘t see any Tablet/Hybrid interface.... all I see it's an ICS with Nova launcher .... and no soft keys....

So . ... where's the Tablet/Hybrid???

Did it get lost by only changing the folder name?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kanishkapd:
hi,

guess this is your 1st boot. there cant be any issue with changing the folder name.

go to the settings, paranoid settings. you will find what you need.

before you start using the phone remember to soft reset at least 2 times, if not done already.

regards.
[HD2 Android SD Development] jd85jd:
Szczepanik i notice your using the background process limit set to standard.........., shouldnt this be set to..."at most 2"....?

From post 1

TIPS

If your build is laggy try setting/developer options/background process limit now set at most 2 process. You will need to set this after every restart
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
If you are using auto killer app leave background process limits set to standard:)Other wise this cause build to be slow and laggy:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] jd85jd:
I see, im new to all this and seen he had it set as standard so thought i would try to help, i didnt know about the autokill, o well the info is now there for other users either with or without auto kill :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] gazzacbr:
hi, thanks but its not quite clear. when do we need to click "resize file only no resize2fs?

if booting from haret and there is a ext4 file there already, then it will just use that (ignoring the command line anyway)
[HD2 Android SD Development] HTCHD2V:
Tried Tytungs new R3 kernel, but hybrid tablet mode is still laggy.

Dorimanx kernel work smooth and fast with default settings. I made only 3 changes and not use any managing app:

Force GPU rendering: Y

Background Process Limit: At most 4 processes

SD Card cache = 2048

All other are defaults:

-Kill app back button: N

-CPU Governor=ondemand

-Minimum CPU frequency: 245

-Maximum CPU frequency: 998

-I/O=deadline

-zRAM: N

-Allow purging of assets: N

-Kernel samepage merging: N

Edit: I am not sure, will increasing SD card cache from 256k to 2M helps a lot. I tested SD card speed with some apps, but cannot see any difference in speed.
[HD2 Android SD Development] melando:
2 only relevant if resizing an existing file using toporesize utility
[HD2 Android SD Development] ChitownWingMan:
Sleep Lock Up

Further information on my problem.

I have tried many different settings (and all of the suggested settings) with tweaking enabled, with tweaking disabled, with auto kill enabled, disabled, etc.

I am still experiencing total lock ups with the phone is turned off and asleep. It doesn't matter whether the phone is connected to the USB and charging or not.

It doesn't matter what the last app that was used/.

It doesn't matter how many processes are running when the phone is turned off.

It doesn't matter if the phone turns itself off or I turn it off.

After some time of being turned off (some level of sleep) the phone locks up to the point where none of the buttons will wake it up.

Plugging in the usb cable in this mode also does not wake it up.

I have tried the stock lock screen as well as several other lock screens.

I have about 150 apps installed on a 16GB Class 10 SD card. I am dual booting between Windows Mobile 7.0 and Android using magldr. magldr is set to auto boot android.

The only way restart the phone is the reset button or pulling the battery.

I tried all of robe's suggestions and all of the other suggestions made here. Setting the minimum CPU speed to 348 MHZ did not work.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks...