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[Motorola Droid RAZR] lrlooly:
The phone is great, it runs quite well on GB. They gave us a stability update.

If you bought it just for the ICS upgradeable and wanted it NOW then you should have gotten the Nexus.

The word upgradeable does not state a timeframe.

You don't buy a computer hoping it will be upgradeable.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
The Google Update Alliance declared that a phone released within the last 18 months would get timely software updates, both carriers and manufacturers agreed to this deal. Therefore since it was advertised to be ICS upgradeable when the consumers could be assured that they were getting ICS anyway from the alliance that they would get a quick timely OS update. It wasn't.

Logical, no?

Link: http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new...ers-and-carriers-to-speed-up-android-updates/

Yeah, these aren't computers in the technical sense, these are smartphones. And in the smartphone market if you buy a popular high end phone released a month before a huge software update the overwhelming majority of users expect the update. Refer to my above response for the rest of your answer.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ac29593:
I don't understand why anyone cares if the bootloader is locked on this phone. Who cares about flashing a new kernel when the battery already lasts longer than a day? Why would you ever want to flash a new radio when this one is the best in the business? The phone can still be rooted and ROMed.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
If you have the OG Razr we don't get over a day. Flashing custom kernels not only gives better battery, but better performance, more communicability and stability.

Flashing custom radios gives you the ability to get even

better

reception and possibly battery life than we are now. What is there not to want?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stkiswr:
If we had boot loader unlock none of us dingbats that flashed certain leaks would be concerned about ever getting updates again.

I agree w you on some points. Kernel? Blah, who needs it. On ics 84 I get well over 6 hours screen on time on 3g/4g mix. How much better could it get vs stability. But boot loader unlock would at least solve our issue of being stuck on leaked software. Until someone comes out with a patch...but it just shouldn't be so difficult. Free boot loader equals easier and less complicated. Less chance of bricks because people could actually simply fix them.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] whirleyes:
OK, I try to give simple explanation on this,

In Android world, there were at least 3 type of users.

User1 : As long as he can make call, send msg, install app..bla2, he' s happy. When the time comes, he upgrades to new phones.

User2 : Like user 1, but sometime they got bored of the original firmware(mostly bloated) & like the option to do some modding. So that the get most out of what they've paid.

User3: Android phone is their toy. While they still using it like user1, they also like to mess it, make modded they want & eventually supply it to user 2.

I'm user3, I was like user1, 2-3 years ago.

This RAZR has a very solid hardware(At the time I bought it). But the potential is limited by the original firmware. The extra potential is not unleash-able because the BL gets in the way. User3 hates this & most of them migrate to other manufacturers.

Is root enough? Not for me.

This RAZR is too easy to brick. You maybe lucky, because somebody has leaked the original firmware for your variant.

What if it has never been leaked like my variant?? If there is no BL, I can just flash your firmware variant.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ac29593:
Makes sense. I did forget about the OG RAZR guys not getting full day battery, but I def think the radio is gonna be tough to improve on. The clarity on this phone and signal strength is amazing.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
That's a great article... perhaps it's just me, but I don't see anything in there stating that you're entitled to Ice Cream Sandwich in a certain number of months. Maybe I'll read it again. I got my Razr in early March and I've already had 2 updates. ICS should come along soon... I'm not losing any sleep in the meantime.

Updates do not necessarily mean a completely new OS.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
I never said any amount of time that we get ICS, but we are entitled to get the it from the update alliance and what Moto has guaranteed us.

The alliance was made for the purpose of major OS updates, maintenence updates are still the responsibility of the manufacturer and carrier and have no time requirements.

You're missing my point. We were already guaranteed to get ICS at one point. Yet they heavily advertised that it was ICS upgradeable, implying that we would get it in a couple months or in a small time after it came out. Not 6 months, which is not timely nor does it live up to what Moto said we were getting.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
Once again, a timeline that you created... not the company.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
Do you have any expectations? It seems you are set in believing that Motorola has not disappointed or lied to their consumers.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
I am constantly surprised by the number of Motorola apologists out there. I love that "I'm happy with stock" somehow equates to "Everyone should be happy with stock."
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
A question for all those that are perfectly happy with their stock phone and can't understand why so many of us are angry with Motorola for not delivering on their promises of an unlocked bootloader and ICS:

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING ON THIS WEBSITE?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] daniel644:
Some of you seam to be acting like oh we haven't gotten it yet so we aren't getting it mentality, anyone remember the bionic was shown at CES 2011 with the charge and thunderbolt but due to some issue (forget what) didn't drop till like a month or 2 before the OG Razr several months after it was supposed to launch. Take a chill pill and pull that entitled stick out of your ass. I'd rather get something clean and polished like windows 7 then something overbearingly sluggish like vista (vista the shining example of what happens when software is pushed to market before its ready).

Motorola has promised ICS by the end of Q2 2012 which by my math still has atleast 5 WEEKS left in it, so how have they lied about are phones being ICS upgradeable?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
As stated- I've gotten regular updates. And ICS will probably be here soon.

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The phone can be rooted. Custom ROMs can be installed. If you're SO itching to have ICS... why haven't you installed it yourself?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Funny, I don't recall saying anything about ICS or custom builds - bloat and the excessive launcher animations aside, stock 2.3.6 isn't too bad. If you'll indulge me, I'll explain.

I'm not personally a massive fan of (other people's) custom Android builds. People make them in their spare time, often for personal use, and share them with the community - that's truly admirable. I enjoy a good CM build, and MIUI is fun every so often, but I'm actually quite interested in the ways the different OEMs tweak and modify the Android experience, so if stock isn't unbearably awful (2.3.5 was, 2.3.6 isnt) then I like to keep it as a base and modify it as needed to meet my own needs.

Kernels are a different story. Compiling one's own Linux kernel is hard enough, let alone adding modules, modifying CPU governors, reducing unnecessary logging, or investigating hardware and drivers to increase performance and battery life through endless trial and error. No disrespect to people who spend a long time modifying stock system images or theming frameworkres.apk, and to each their own, but it's kernels that interest me, and arbitrarily kernels are the one thing we can't have.

I do not blame Motorola for delivering or not delivering on updates or upgrades. I do, however, blame them for locking down their hardware unnecessarily to prevent users from making the most of their hardware platforms. It damages Motorola as a company and negatively affects their userbase, and there have been no good reasons presented for the bootloader lock down - as you say, root and custom builds are readily available, therefore security concerns and increased customer returns from bricked devices are non-arguments.

There are fully functional official ICS leaks (For GSM, anyway). ICS is not the issue, although it would have been a non-issue for everyone had the bootloaders not been locked in the first place. I just cannot understand why people - such as yourself - seem to think that because you're happy with what you have, everyone else should be too. That's great, I'm glad you enjoy your RAZR, but your needs, experiences, and use-case scenarios clearly do not align with everyone else's.

If it is merely the vocal complaints that you do not like, I have to wonder why you're reading them.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
Oh, I AM sorry, I was commenting in context with the thread's topic, namely, this posting by Motorola:

http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/05/18/wondering-about-software-updates-for-your-device/

This link deals with ICS and what devices will be receiving it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] qoncept:
If you bought a phone with Gingerbread on the basis that you'd be using ICS you're an idiot. The update lifecycle has been the same story with every version of Android with every manufacturer.

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/5543
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
And that is supposed to make me happy? That the story has been the same with every version with every manufacturer.

1. That's an over generalization, your wording implies that no manufacturer has

ever given a phone timely OS updates.

2. Where and when has this exact situation played itself out?

3.Buying a phone with Gingerbread expecting to get ICS soon does not make you an idiot, it makes you gullible, you trusted a company with a bad reputation in updates and customer relations.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] whirleyes:
Don't start a fight here! It's about being happy.

You might be happy, others may not.

While I like their phone,at the same time I also hated it.

It's complicated
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
I give you thanks fort keeping me in check and for reflecting my exact feelings on this phone.:)

Hate it for software(more Motorola) love it for overall experience.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Based on: 1750.0823.8862.13110

OS version: 7.10.8862

Languages: all 24 official langpacks

Features:

Windows Phone 7.8

Full unlock v4.5 - now with root access notifications.

Customizable search key.

Ringtones from your personal music collection.

Clock tile.

High quality WP7.8-compatible tiles.

Orientation lock.

File manager.

Quick Menu 2.0.

XAP deployer built in.

Full support of native applications.

Windows Mobile Device Center Launcher.

CAB updatability - except OEM Nokia updates.

Many big changes under the hood.

Screenshots:

Download (link inside txt)

Changelog:

2.2 04.08.2013

ROM based on latest 13110 firmware

ROM is rewritten from scratch

Amount of pre-installed applications kept to a minimum

Reverted sync with Google account via EAS protocol

Replaced some icons for WP8 analogs

Application precaching

OemMarket application to change marketplace config

RingtoneManager with ringtone cut and artist background attaching

Updated USB Video Out application (avaible via separated cab-update)

German localization added to built in applications

More frequent database flushing

Many internal changes

Thanks to these people:

Asusmobile_Team for creating OS Builder

UltraShot for his contribution to homebrew-community, and for personal assistance

HD2Owner for design and graphic help

biktor_gj and awdad for testing

g-gabber for new AMSS&ADSP

Allowed to copy information to other sources, specifying the original authorship!
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Project is closed. Thank you all for your attention and support.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
reserved
[Nokia Lumia 800] djtonka:
Just wait for any way to laod Qualcomm bootloader.

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The name and extension of amssadsp.img_part3 file is correct?
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
They are not important. Just use sudo dd if=~/amssadsp.img_part3 of=/dev/sdb3 (replacing b to your letter, if necessary)
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
If I could fully unlock my phone, I would probably try this. Though the only thing I really want if custom tile colors. That's the one thing I miss in WP really.

My bootloader is not unlockable at the moment unfortunately.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ikinkyxd:
Good to see some work for the Lumia 800, so we can make good use of our lumia's when it gets unlocked :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
gonna try this out now, will let you know with my results ;)

what do you mean with "but new key can also be banned"? and how exactly does the ROM know our windows live id serial number? or is a generic one used?
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Microsoft can block login with my LiveID key, which added to my ROMs, so it was already once, but then it unblocked. Key may be contained in two places, in DPP partition (in original firmware or using DppImplant), or in the registry key (I use this method)
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
Cheers for the clarification.. Can we still replace our own LiveID key using DppImplant without breaking the ROM?
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Of course, for safety I recommend after installing firmware delete following registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\GwpCPC]
"ActivationCode"="*****-*****-*****-*****-*****"

because I don't know source priority.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
Could I not just replace mine with yours? The registry + using DppImplant
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
yes you can, but it is unnecessary
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
live photo:
[Nokia Lumia 800] walie-duski:
How can we flash this update?
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
Successfully flashed this yesterday night.. Will report with any bugs I find..
[Nokia Lumia 800] EchoesOfOli:
Im losing hope of Nokia DLOAD unlock :(

btw great ROM, wonderful work ! +1
[Nokia Lumia 800] kingcartwright:
how do you know if you've got a Quallcomm bootloader?
[Nokia Lumia 800] 281463288:
Good Job！Thanks~
[Nokia Lumia 800] Insert_here:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1599401
[Nokia Lumia 800] matlear:
Does my device look ok for flashing ??
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
its useless info.
[Nokia Lumia 800] GeBoe:
USB FS

Hey guys, how do i access the filesystem over USB?

Regards. Geboe
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
already said:
[Nokia Lumia 800] Uskovas:
Hi friend. Thanks for your job. Is it possible to do jailbreak for HTC Radar? It is on WP7 too. Or it is not possible? Thanks again.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Assembly process for htc is different from that of nokia. I only work with nokia. AFAIK, unlock htc radar hampered by a lack HSPL. If anyone can do it, then only cotulla.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
First impressions on the ROM.. its very good, although I feel I have slightly more battery draining than before flashing (when I had Mango full unlock)
[Nokia Lumia 800] sparx180:
Just got rid of my sensation xe for a lumia 800 and thankfully its got the qualcomm bootloader so im about to flash this, im just wondering if hard reset is needed for this rom? it doesnt say in the OP but says to do so on other threads.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
hard reset is required after any custom firmware, otherwise phone just will not work
[Nokia Lumia 800] sparx180:
Okay thought so, thanks.
[Nokia Lumia 800] muhmax:
Hi, If I got "Nokia Dload", and I can register as Developer in App hub and DreamSpark, because I am student do you think it will be working?

Thanks
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Then can not continue.

Once again, briefly: DLOAD>CAN'T INSTALL CUSTOM ROM

QUALLCOMM> CAN INSTALL CUSTOM ROM

On Lumia 800 IMPOSSIBLE change bootloader to quallcomm.
[Nokia Lumia 800] g-gabber:
By the way with sdb3 image you override the key store, which cant be restored anymore if you didn’t backup the partition before. The key store is encrypted with HW-UNIQUE Key.

ps. would be good if you say who decrypted the amss and adsp files.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Keffa15:
Oke, i want to flash my device with this, only i dont have a clue how to do this, i flashed a couple of times with NCS, but trough linux is new to me.

Can someone please make a guide, not only for me but also for the people how will come after me, and also a guide on how to backup sdb3 partition.

I got Lumia with Qualcomm bootloader.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
lucifer, the ROM is great, but I've noticed quite a bit of battery drain.. Any ideas what may be wrong? Or how it can be improved?

Got the exact same setup as when I had it Mango Unlocked, and it lasted me for ~2days, now I can barely go a day
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
I have no idea what could be wrong. With absolutely same settings on 710 phone works at least 30-40 hours of active use.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
710 != 800 .. Even with stock ROMS there is quite a difference.. Have you noticed any difference between stock 710 and your ROM? Then maybe we could find what might be wrong.. ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
I had no difference between stock firmware and my custom, because i do not make any tweaks affecting battery drain, except wifi n-mode, but this tweak affects battery in very rare condition (when using 3x3 MIMO router)
[Nokia Lumia 800] sparx180:
I've noticed the drain too, it drains at a rate of about 7-10% an hour for me, and that's only for about 20 texts, the odd bit of browsing and 10 mins of games at lunch.
[Nokia Lumia 800] sparx180:
Is the amssadsp.img in the OP the same as in biktors thread? Because if it is, could the fact its from 12070 fw cause an issue as this rom is based on 12140? Maybe a conflict causing the drain? I'm just speculating so correct me if in wrong
[Nokia Lumia 800] muhmax:
But if i active developer user it will showing also? Or maybe not?
[Nokia Lumia 800] g-gabber:
You mean, you have developer account?

Anyway to install this ROM you need a phone with Qualcomm bootloader.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Insert_here:
Sorry muhmax only dev unlock with dev account on dload
[Nokia Lumia 800] khiloc:
unlock??? sim unlock

Please i have a nokia lumia locked to SFR france!!

will flashing this remove the sim lock?

Please i'm deseperately searching for a working sim unlock solution
[Nokia Lumia 800] webgrafx:
Do you think we will have a RainbowMod for lumia 800 DLOAD?

Do you think we will have a RainbowMod for lumia 800 DLOAD?
[Nokia Lumia 800] LewisGauss:
Can I get back all the OEM applications?
[Nokia Lumia 800] china_ran:
it's cool...but how to use it?
[Nokia Lumia 800] rafa8595:
Want to try it

i want to try it but dont know how to identify if i can install it Correctly without bricking my lumia 800, can you post a link or tell me how can i identify if my phone uses quallcomm loader (i think this is what a i need right?)

im a bit lost in this (ROM installing i mean):)
[Nokia Lumia 800] FelluRan:
Update to 12220? :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] Dum3:
12021 already:D
[Nokia Lumia 800] chigz:
very curious.. "ANY PROGRESS ON LUMIA 800 DLOAD phones" are they getting the full unlock anytime soon ??:confused:
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Nothing, nobody workaround in this direction.
[Nokia Lumia 800] djtonka:
When Rainbow 1.4 for L800?
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
I am now on a trip, and do not have the opportunity to work on it. At the moment we are testing pre-release version for the 800. Since the 800 testers I have a lot less, and debugging is slower.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Reflexdarky:
luma flash

i have flashed rainbow mod rom with nss all goes good but when i go to power up the phone it just hangs on the nokia logo and doesnt go any further. i have downloaded a few times to see if the download was curopt and its still the same i am pulling my hair out as what to do next

rob
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
You forgot update AMSS, ADSP and EMMCBOOT via rewrite sdb3 partition in Linux.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Reflexdarky:
i have booted in to ubuntu and stuck my lumia in to flash mode my sdb3 partition is shown as a fat 32 ubuntu monuts the partition and i am able to browse it it shows a image folder and a keystore folder. do i take the sdb3 file from the first post and dd that to the partition or am i looking at the wrong area all together, you also talk about AMSS ADSP abd EMMCBOOT but these files are not posted with in your link on the first post i am a bit lost as to where i might get these. also Inside the image folder these files are present would it be a case of drag and drop the new one in to place of them

cheers

rob:good:
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
unmount sdb3 partition, and only then write posted dump to sdb3 via dd. If you don't knot, how to do it, print in terminal:

sudo umount /dev/sda3
[Nokia Lumia 800] Reflexdarky:
yes you beauty just flashed the sdb3 partition after unmounting it did a hard reset and job is a good one now rocking with lumia powered by Rainbow mod nice one mate really like the rom looking forward to more like this

cheers

rob:good:
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Finally, 1.4 update released. Changelog and download links in first post.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Reflexdarky:
hi i have just flashed 1.4 and jobs a good one really like this rom is there any battery improvements with this release as 1.3 my battery drained like mad

keep up the good work

rob:good:
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Only if nokia include fixes for drivers. I can't change any stuff, associated with drivers.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Reflexdarky:
search key

i have just noticed when i press the search key quick launch comes up but then when i select the magnifying glass bing search does not launch i set the search key to defult bing search and nothing happens have you striped the bing search function out of this rom

rob:good:
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
go to regional settings, and set language of browser and search "English (US)" or "Engligh (UK)"
[Nokia Lumia 800] Reflexdarky:
i have tried that and the bing search still wont work nothing is displayed, with setting the search button and in quick launch it just throws me out to the application menu
[Nokia Lumia 800] Reflexdarky:
right i tried a hard reset and reflash of the rom and bing search still doesnt show up think this could be a bug in the rom its self, i flashed the previous version and that worked fine but on the 1.4 it is a no go

rob:good:
[Nokia Lumia 800] maj29:
add language

hi

can u please add this language

Arabic - Saudi Arabia	0401	1025 ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] eeit232:
Bing is not working for me either. Tried both US and UK under Settings | System | Region+Language | Browser & search language. Interestingly, selecting search from Settings | Applications also does nothing, and if IE is set to use Bing as search provider, this fails too. Its almost like Bing is missing from the ROM.

Possibly unrelated, Maps will not start.
[Nokia Lumia 800] nonblk:
solved

i managed to add my winlive acc http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32700983&postcount=7
[Nokia Lumia 800] che1982:
I got a Qualcom CMDA Lumia 800.

So where can I find guide to flash my phone??
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Updated to 2.0 version, recommend use this tool before flashing
[Nokia Lumia 800] chris3ds:
This ROM is amazing! Everything seems to be working, and battery life is great. The only addition I'd like to see is English (UK) as a selectable language. Otherwise, perfect!
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
Sorry, not enough space in IMGFS.
[Nokia Lumia 800] surya467:
Somone do something for 800 DLOAD! i want this and i cant have it!
[Nokia Lumia 800] nonblk:
hello ! this version is ported from L710? bing search is working ? 8858 is from original rom ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] lucifer3006:
It's not a port, it's original OS version from MS.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lordmaxey:
Lucifer, that's an awesome update! I'll flash my phone tonight. :)

Edit:

Flashed it. Wow. This is the most amazing rom i've ever used. Thank you so much!!