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[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Yes, they're both the same. Screen on is simply a measure of how many hours and minutes your display has been on, including being just at the lockscreen. Your phone is also awake when the screen is on. But your phone can also be awake when the screen is off, which can drain battery as well. If you phone is not doing anything active (GPS tracking, data sync, downloading) then it's considered not awake, or "sleeping." Basically, all processes have been cached or put to the side, because they're not actively doing anything. In other words, your phone is idle.

Yesterday's stats are gone. I've never been able to recover a previous day's stats unless I'm using an app that tracks usage. I could be wrong though, there's things about android even I, still don't know.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Wow.

You guys are freakin awesome.

I was just needing a new battery and was gonna grab the big mugens, but now I've got a thread to read through a lot more thoroughly and a lot of thanks to distribute.

Must not be so hasty to spend cash - appreciate the back and forth I've skimmed here, and come the end of the weekend when I can do this proper on a computer I'll be dissecting this.

Thanks!

Sent from a digital distance.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
Don't disqualify Mugen's XL battery yet. I read your other post how you work somewhere in the wild, and I would say - in your case - the XL 3600mAh batt may be the best solution.

Sure, I too thought $70 was already too much when last time I bought it from Mugen (for my TP2), but wken I went up north I have really found it worth the money.

I'm no longer going up north into the "deep wild", so I really hesitate to spend $100 on XL battery for MT4GS. Regardles, that is such ridiculus price, I bet it's just gouging! There is no way manufacturing any simple phone battery can be THAT expensive to justify $100 retail price, more complicated multi-cell laptop batteries are cheaper, for crying out loud... So, in my case, I don't really need XL batt now and I think I'll stick with this Gold batt - yours is different.

It's nice to have a phone PocketPC running for 2 or more days without charge, though.

Have you seen somebody's screenshot with 12hrs of awake time in other thread? ( HERE ) There is no chance any slim "gold" or no gold 2450 mAh battery to reach that much on a single charge.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Did you buy it from this seller?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2450mAh-Hig...702048?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20c65969e0

I want to make sure I'm buying from the seller as you. The link in your original post is ebay canada.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
no, I bought from seller name "usell2001".

I'll try to log in into US ebay and find link, gimme a min.

HERE US ebay.com this is him and the same battery

Should I ask him for commission? ;)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Lol, yea you should. Show him this thread and maybe he'll give you your money back!

There's a lot of china sellers selling this battery, but to replicate your results, I'd rather spend about 50 cents more and buy it from your seller
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
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End of charge #3

Only 2 pics because the screenshot-taking app's "trial run" has ended :( (yeah... that's another thing someone coming from Windows Mobile world have to get used to in Android world, I guess). Luckily I started with the "screen time on" screenshot, otherwise i wouldn't be able to take it.

BTW: there will be no more screenshots unless I find another app.

The "awake time" on the third screen was 5hrs 12min XX-sec

Screenshots taken as always right after 5% battery warning.

Anyways an explanation why such short uptime this time:

it is because my buddy at work begged me to let him watch them european football game that started today (his "oh-so-great" iFail couldn't play the stream lol) and he drained my battery a lot. So consider it heavy use this time: non-stop data, cpu and screen for more than 2hrs just for his game watching, plus all of my usual (more than moderate) daily use.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Wow, you're getting some great usage out of your battery. Great job!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
That's who I have purchased mine from, as well. Now I'm just waiting for it to arrive.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cooljoe226:
I just bought one after reading this thread. Hopefully I'll be getting the same results
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Weird, how did you get it for $6 flat?

The price has always seemed to be $6.83
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
Good to know :) Compared to stock battery it sure is way way better, but comparing to those big 3600/3800mAh batteries it looks weak. At least it didn't cost $100, so I won't complain.

But IMO they should have included such batteries as stock, not the junk we all received.

MT4GS is my second HTC model that I found coming with really unacceptable stock battery. I will remember that and I will take it into consideration when the time to replace MT4GS with something newer will come, specially after reading Sensation and Amaze forums. No more blind trust in HTC's designs from me.

Please post your results when they arrive!

Does the $.83 make any difference? :rolleyes:

Anyways, you had my link and you know my location, go figure it out :D (and no I never said I've paid flat $6.00 USD exactly - but I have paid less than you did)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cooljoe226:
will do! is there any update on your battery? seeing your battery last for over a day really makes me excited for some reason
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Just bought 2! Excited to put them to use :D But... Shipping was an expected 7-12 days... -_-
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jefffff:
gonna buy 1 to try. hope it arrives soon!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
Conclusion

I don't have any screenshot app, and the one I was using the trial ended, so no more "updates", sorry.

My battery works fine, and it has "settled" already after 4th or 5th charge/discharge cycle.

Now charging time is about 3hrs, and it lasts for more than 1 day (with my normal use, which is probably higher than average user's)

"Screen-on" time is from 3hrs to 5hrs depending on what is running (I found GPS to be second largest battery hog, au pair with the display).

That's about it... if it suddenly dies or anything happens I will report here, of course :)

Simple math of this batt "usage calculations" vs stock battery's usage (assuming the stock battery really is 1730mAh) gives me values of more than 2500mAh for this battery, which of course must be wrong - it probably is 2450 mAh as rated; I'd think my stock battery actually never had 1700 mAh as it supposed to. Apologies: somehow I mistaken the original HTC battery for 1730mAH, while it is only 1520mAh of course, hence my problem with calculating actual capacity of the "Gold" battery, sorry!

My conclusion:

This is excellent "slim" replacement for stock battery with much higher capacity (that's what the stock battery should have been).

However, please DO read the "2430 mAh" and "2450 mAh" batteries threads on HTC Sensation and HTC Amaze forums, and be careful: supposedly there are many "fakes" that don't have even stock battery's capacity.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Stock battery is 1520mAh

The 1730 is for the sensation XL and the Amaze, if i'm not mistaken
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
Yes, of course you are correct, it is 1520 :) (and I know it too, lol)

I guess I've been reading about too many batteries and some major brain glitch happened at late night hours ;)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
Received my "gold" battery. It is a tight fit, but it does fit without a special back. When it arrived it had about 45% charge, according to my battery display, and that charge lasted over 24 hours with several phone calls using Bluetooth, some app updating, texting, and browsing through Flipboard! I let it drop down to 6% before putting it on to charge overnight. Now it is fully charged and I'm anxious to see how long it goes.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Fuzi! How long did it take for yours too arrive?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
I received the email from the seller that he shipped my battery on 6 June (I ordered it on 5 June). I received it on 18 June. It ships from Foshan in Guangdong province in China.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cooljoe226:
I have just received my battery in the mail. At first it does feel a bit heavier than stock battery. I will start to test it today.

I dont think the battery temp is working for my battery, can anyone else confirm this?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] strapped365:
I broke down and got the 2 x 1900 ankers with the charger. They should be here like Tuesday. But I will be watching this thread. :D
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
This gold battery gave me 38 hours of my normal use before it got down to 14%, then I put it on to charge. It seems to stay cooler than the stock battery. My initial reaction so far is a big Yay! The 1900 mAh battery I bought would get me about 18 hours before it was down to 10% or less. Stock battery was even less time. So 38 hours is amazing.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Dang... Really want to get this battery but looks like I won't get it until sometime next week! UGH! The wait is killing me! Hearing all these good results...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Traditionally I would never buy another battery for my phone. I would make do with the stock battery provided (which hasn't been too bad for me; I get about 20 hours off a charge).

But this battery is so tempting. From what I know so far, I can get upwards of 2 days out of it...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] strapped365:
Yeah 38 hours is just insane. Here is my question though, do any of these after market batteries get hot like stock? Its bad when 90% of the time my phone has no back cover and I'm getting burned by the SD clip. My charging port is also funny and feels like its breaking so that's another reason I went with the ankers ( for the charger ) and now I have 3 batteries lol
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
I had been using the GTMax 1900mAh battery. It gave me about 3-4 hours more use than the stock battery. It would get warm, but maybe not as warm as stock. This gold battery is barely warmer than room temp. Even when I'm really using the phone, I think all the warmth I feel is from the processor, not the battery now.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jsyi84:
Naw. I've got 4 of them and haven't had an issue with heat or anything. However I do believe 1 of them lasts less than the other 3....regardless of whether they are used in my M4GS or my Amaze lol.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] RazoE:
My battery life is the same. Only a few hours. Not sure what the hell you guys are doing, but even with 2X battery, my Gold battery is the same as my anker and OEM..
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Obviously everyone's usage and setup is a bit different. But if your OEM=Anker=Gold

Then you're doing something wrong...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] txmtb:
I'll agree with that, I use the Antutu battery tester app and I get 2.5 hours on my stock battery with it running full bore. I'm testing the gold batteries I received to see how they compare.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Please post result, screenshots, etc.:good:
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] txmtb:
Check. Hopefully will get through them this weekend. I can say that they are made by this company http://www.ecvv.com/company/lyyjdm/profile.html. I pulled the label off and the numbering is DIKTE504448A 100/16K28 6L07. I do not advise removing the label btw, it is the only thing besides the power ribbon that is holding the cell in the plastic frame. I almost pulled the cell out of the frame.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] txmtb:
I tried to edit the above post, but kept telling me it had been flagged? Found the actual battery on the companies website, it is listed as a 1000ma nominal battery.

http://en.szdkt.com/products_detail/&productId=8c97f935-8728-4c85-b6f2-a107560cc3de&comp_stats=comp-FrontProducts_list01-1333248759406.html
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ac3theone:
1000mah isnt good...?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] adrenalinemedic:
Got mine yesterday. Charged it to 100% last night, and took it off the charger before I went to bed this morning at 3am PST.

When I woke up at 11amPST, the battery was still at 100%.

I checked my FB and sent a couple of texts, then took a shower and got ready for work. Battery dropped to 92%. At ~1130amPST I decided to reboot the phone. Upon reboot, battery dropped to 68%.

I checked the graph in Battery Monitor app. According to that, in 30 mins it dropped from ~90% to ~10%, then immediately went to ~70% upon reboot.

Through casual texting, FBing, and a couple of calls, it dropped to 50% in five hours. I rebooted again, and it dropped down to 32%.

I just checked Battery Monitor, and now the same graph is showing the phone having been at ~10% for the last 7 hours.

Right now (6:36pmPST) its at 14%, but with the way its jumping around I have no idea how much power I actually have.

Can anyone give me some tips on how to accurately gauge battery power?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] txmtb:
I had the same issue, partly the reason for buying a new battery. There's a thread in the General section on it. To get it back to reading normal, power down, pull the battery, wait 30 seconds or so, and re-install battery and power on. Almost every time I reboot it seems to throw it off. Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1701750
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
I've noticed the throw off too but I'm still using the Stock battery. Could be ROM sided too :/ Sporting CM9 Alpha.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
screenshots

Here are some screenshots, using the 2450mAh Gold battery. This is after doing some long voice calls yesterday and about 30 minutes of Flipboard browsing last night, as well as my usual texting, Foursquare (using GPS), etc.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cooljoe226:
this is an amazing battery. i get about 17 hours + on my Htc sensation. Its still at 37% right now too!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] adrenalinemedic:
Downloaded "Battery Calibrate" from the Play With My Android Store Market Whatever They're Calling It This Week.

Charged it to 100%, calibrated, and away we went. I'm at 23:40:23 of uptime, and have 16% battery. However, I was home most of the day, so my phone use was limited to texting, the occasional phone call, and some facebooking while running errands. I use my phone a lot more when I'm working, but I'm hoping this battery will give me a full day off of the charger without doubling the form factor.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
I got a total of 36 hours on the last charge before it was down to 14% (I put it on the charger then). I had several hour+ phone calls included since the last screenshots I posted, plus some more webbrowsing and Flipboarding along with Whatsapp picture sharing.

Maybe I'm lucky and got one of the gems of the bunch, but I'm very pleased with this battery. Best $6.83 I've spent in a while.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jsyi84:
All I'm gonna say is if this battery really is only 1000 mah then HTC and all the other battery companies have some serious explaining to do as to why they are overstating their battery capacities lol
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mesh626:
So I read all 10 pages of comments and feedback on this Battery. I want to ask everyone again is this battery really worth the $? Am I really going to get more life over the OEM battery? I'm really considering getting the 2 pack with charger for $15. The OEM battery doesn't have enough juice for my heavy use.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jsyi84:
considering these batteries cost less than $7 each how could it possibly be a total loss...considering a stock battery on ebay costs more...the worst that can come about your purchase is they are no better than stock....but hey you'll have an extra battery.... I have 4 of these and can assure you they last longer than any of my other batteries...including my stock HTC Amaze battery which is rated at 1730mah so at the very least I know they have more than 1730mah...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mesh626:
Thanks a lot for the response I will be placing my order tonight. I can't wait to receive them!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Will be waiting awhile for them! Though worth the wait. Mines came in today, bought 2. Will report on the progress. Currently running one of them and it seems as though the batteries will arrive at half charge of 50%-55% according to CM9 Alpha's percentage.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mesh626:
So do you recommend using it till it dies and then fully charging them? I got the double pack with a charger so I can charge one on the wall and one with my original charger.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Seems as though, for me at least, with the half-charge. It didn't really last. Mainly because I was using Data (HSPA+) but the thing is, it was at 45% when I started and I only ran it for about 30 minutes. Killed the battery quick. Anyways, I'd just full charge it, I needed to use my battery so I didn't charge it yet.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mat_oli:
ok so I just got the battery in the mail today..plug it into my phone, but it doesn't seem to like to boot up with it. It'll start booting up, get through the mytouch bootup screen, the HTC bootup screen, and then to the "drag ring to unlock" screen, but then it says "powering down", and just shuts right back off again...any ideas why?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jsyi84:
Probably cus it's flat dead.....what batteries usually do when they are dead lol. You need to charge this bad boy up first. It takes just over 6 hours to charge from dead on my standalone charger...i've got 6 now as of today....
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] txmtb:
For the $14 I spent I'm happy with the batteries. I can't get Antutu to finish a discharge cycle on them, it just dies at the end before giving a reading. But they have shown around 1600mA on a full discharge/recharge cycle using Battery Widget. So they work better than my stock batteries, that show a little less than 1500mA, and didn't cost as much. I can make it through the day without recharging, so that's a plus. Temp sensor does not appear to work on mine btw.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mat_oli:
I don't know if that's it..when I boot it up, the battery level indicator is showing 59% charged. But strangely, when I plug in the charger, it doesn't seem to charge, the light will just flash green and orange alternating.

If I power off the phone and plug in the charger, it will show orange for about 10 seconds, then turn off for a second, and go back orange for another 10s. So I'm guessing it's not charging properly.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Not sure if I got the worst of the lot. But... I can say that from using one of the 2 I've received. It's definitely worse than the stock battery, it can be at best described as on par with the stock. But that's just me.

This is after 2 charge cycles. Having the 1st battery go from full down to 5% then charged again.

Will try the 2nd battery, but from what I'm seeing it doesn't look like I'll see any better results.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
I would leave the battery charging overnight and also calibrate it.

Possible you've gotten a faulty battery as well. They do happen, it's not a perfect world sadly
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] strapped365:
So I was reading a Google+ post from an android engineer, and she said wiping the stats don't really benefit you. Because each time the battery hits 100% or near that it automatically wipes the stats when unplugged. She also said that the battery stats.bin is only there so when you go to view the battery usage in menu*settings*battery or where ever your usage is, and that's why when you unplug the usage resets.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
So I'm using a generic 1800mAh battery from ebay. I charge it fully and use it all day. 2nd overnight charge, and I wake up with my phone at 90%. I know the battery is fully charged, because I went and saw that it's carrying 4200mv from another app. Reboot brought it back up to 100%

So why is the phone messing up when it comes to reading and detecting the battery charge? I think some people in this thread are having the same problem...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] strapped365:
its on all batteries i think, my OEM one reads the same way. not sure about the Anker yet cause its taking its second charge, which is taking forever lol
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mat_oli:
As expected...I charged the battery in my Anker charger to 100% overnight, stuck the battery in the phone this morning, and still the same issue with the phone shutting down immediately upon bootup (battery indicator now shows 100%).

Any other ideas why this might be?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Sigh. So Calibrated the battery, began using and at first I thought the battery life would be amazing. Was not so. After about 20 minutes of video viewing the battery dropped to about 80%-90%. After an hour it was at about at 70% :(

Darn me not getting the sweet battery.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] strapped365:
Calibrating the battery wont help, its redundant because android wipes the stats each time the battery hits 100% and is unplugged, that way when you view the battery usage you have accurate statistics.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Sigh. Slightly better than yesterday but still pretty bad. Don't even run music that often.

last screenshot is just to show the phone is deepsleeping just fine. Running CM9 Alpha 4 any ideas how to get better life out of the battery? Curious as to why after light usage the battery drops like crazy.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
Haha I did notice the wierd thing about the Gold battery at low charge. I had it at about 15% while listening to music and browsing. Thought I was safe. Wrong, within a second it dropped to 1% then auto shut off.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
Within seconds?!:eek:

That's not normal, that's how dying batteries usually behave...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Yea, not within seconds. That sounds like a bad set of cells...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] strapped365:
Here is the link to verify wiping battery stats is a myth

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1460553

Also linked there is a Google+ post made by an Android Engineer.

On to the low weird acting things with your lipo, yeah when they get low their usually only good for "short" bursts of power, in the rc world we have lipo cutoffs to no drain the cells so low to avoid troubles.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] txmtb:
Oh crap, I did take a picture and I totally forgot to post it with the link! Thanks for calling that out or I don't think I would have ever realized. Sorry about that.:(

I posted the other day that I've had good luck with them. I'm not getting 2450mA out of them, but they are more than stock for sure. They are definitely more than 1000mA, that's just what I found from the link when searching for the actual battery labeling.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Any markings or lettering on the other side?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] txmtb:
Nope, that was all it had. I just threw the line together in Google to find the manufacturer. I only pulled the label off of 1 of them. There's nothing holding the cell in that plastic frame except the label and the ribbon going to the power contacts so I got lucky my fat fingers didn't rip it apart.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mat_oli:
ok so I thought the issue might have been with the old undeadk9 rom I was running, so I flashed the latest CM9 Alpha5, and still the same issue - right after booting up, the phone will shut down. I think I might have a defective battery?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Appogee:
So... Just an update. I guess I'm noticing a slightly longer battery life after a few (roughly 3-4) cycles. Definitely now it is better than stock. But... we shall see how the phone survives when I kill my data since I'm traveling tomorrow.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Yea, probably a defective battery. I'm guessing you don't have access to another phone you could try this battery in?