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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
It did, but as I installed Weixin immediately upon receiving the phone, that doesn't help! lol

It's been running for about an hour or so on this fresh wipe, no crash yet, so I'll keep an eye on it. I'm sure a firmware change will sort it out, I strongly doubt whether it's a hardware issue, the phone would be more glitchy if it was I think. Probably just some bit of code somewhere butting heads with another.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
- Enable USB debugging on your device

- download adb package

- Open command window in the folder where you put the adb files

- type: "adb pull system"

- now adb will pull the system folder from your phone to your pc :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Tried that, have everything downloaded, the device just can't be found, so I can't pull the system :(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] celsior360:
Maybe the phone it's defective, and it's not about the FW.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Sure, it's possible, but I just unlocked it via fastboot which seemed to be fine. I could just be stupid, you see, this is my first go round with Xperia devices after coming from the much easier to hack HTC ones.

No crash since I wiped the phone which is nice. Now that it's unlocked, it's probably a really bad idea to try using the DoomKernels for the Xperia S, right?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
If you have unlocked your phone you can use root explorer and then you can make a .zip of the system folder with it ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
It's a shame the ion didn't keep the nxt design. The ion is ugly compares with the s.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
OK, doing it now....

Edit: Just started uploading to HotFile, but it's getting pretty late here so I won't be able to give the link until tomorrow, I guess. The file is 278mb in size, so it's going to take some time on my crappy net connection.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] karthiknr:
Yes I agree with you as well..

What all phones come under the NXT Gen phones? XperiaS,XperiaP,XperiaU and?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] celsior360:
Xperia Sola!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] karthiknr:
Hmm.. I thought it wouldn't come under NXT because it didn't look like the other 3.. Silly me..:p
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
ok, thanks :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Okey-dokey, link is live - https://hotfile.com/dl/156469347/b16e7e0/system.zip.html

Just a zip form of the system folder pulled from root explorer :)

UPDATE: Ok, so have been running the phone for a couple of days now, here's some updated impressions.

Screen - is fantastic. I prefer it in a lot of ways to the HTC ONE X which was also very good, and I'm pleased to report that the yellow tint issues actually seem to be fading now. Hopefully it is more like the old iPhone problem where the yellow tint actually fades, rather than the Xperia S problem where they got worse.

Battery - isn't great. I've been running the phone since 7 am (currently 12:31 pm), and am down to 57%. This is with brightness on 3/4 full, wifi and sync on, but no calls and only a few messages. I haven't really been browsing on it either. Hopefully it will pick up as the battery cycles.

Crashes - weirdly, no crashes since I unlocked the boot loader. I have installed a few apps, and everything seems to be running smoothly. I still think I'm on some kind of pre-release firmware as there are a few incongruities compared to my Xperia S (only one live wallpaper for example). Also, when I connect it to my PC, it shows up as an Xperia S, and the Ion isn't even in Sony's list of devices supported by the companion PC software. Still no Mac support I'm afraid :(

Camera - superb. Quick to load, quick to focus, and very detailed with natural colour representation

Build quality - also very, very good. No casing flex, it's lightweight and yet sturdy, and seems pretty good at resisting scratches (I have no case on it and it's still immaculate). I don't like the little flap that covers the USB slot, but hey, that's a minor niggle. The capacitive buttons at the bottom seem a bit better in responding than the Xperia S, but the sweet spot to use them is still pretty small.

Software performance - very, very smooth. I have seen no stutters or jumps in any part of the UI, despite it being Android 2.3.7, and it 'only' being a dual-core CPU. It seems to run smoother than the One X, even if the benchmark numbers don't exactly scream raw power.

All in all, I think this really is a very good phone, and I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony do with the GX next month. Here's hoping more people get this phone now it has been released in HK and Taiwan, and that we can get some kernels and firmware flashing started!

Cheers :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] SEFanX10i:
Xperia SOLA is not part of NXT series. Xperia S, U and P are the NXT series phones.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] celsior360:
It's great to see your review, the phone will shipped in early June in Hong Kong. I'm also waiting for the GX as it uses a better CPU, people said it was shown in the CES early this year and therefore international version is quite positive, keep our finger cross!:)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
You will be waiting till the end of the year for the gx
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
Thanks :) just downloaded it and I'll take a look at it today :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] celsior360:
[YOUTUBE]Xo5atOPLVqA&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]

A look at the phone!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Yeah! I don't agree with those who say the Xperia S is better-looking. the build quality on the Ion feels better, as well as looking sexier thanks to the thinner body and brushed aluminium back.

I'd better put my asbestos suit on whilst people flame me for that. Sigh
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] o>c:
Worry not, its just a matter of personal preference which is subjective. Some people might consider ion's design to be "too Japanese" :).
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfalgout2003:
One of the features that I loved about my X10 was the notification LED. Does the Ion have one? I may be mistaken, but doesn't the clear bar on the S light up when you have a notification?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
I agree that the back looks better and it has a better build quality, but without the see through bar I just find it not appealing at all. The front looks like any other android phone with no accentuating feature. Also the thing is too big. It looks like a pain to handle with one hand and I have big hands.

Also the Xperia S is thinner than the ion. 10.8 ion/ 10.6 Xperia S.

The ion has much better button placement though. I am on ATT and i have an upgrade available but I find the ion to not have the Sony charm I am looking for in a phone. Also the development side should be much stronger for the Xperia S.

I swear ATT was like: That thing isn't ugly enough for us! Take away the cool light bar immediately!

---------- Post added at 02:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:22 PM ----------

The Ions design is too ATT.

Also ATT will lock the bootloader and make it worthless in the US.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] tel033:
how is the benchamark in the S?

Have you tried focusing at low light conditions? are these photos blurry?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] blakwhite:
Good one.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] galashturman:
For me Ion's design looks better than S, more solid.

Is there any problem with network or wi-fi on Ion?

One more think. I read that Ion has 2gb phone memory, from 6gb to 14gb (from different sources) internal memory and slot for ms up to 32gb. I didn’t catch the difference between phone and internal memory, isn't it the same?

Thanks
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Nope, Ion has 16GB of memory, expandable by up to 32GB - so I currently sport 48 GB in my hone, minus the 5GB or so that the system and formatting takes up.

Wifi and network signal are great. Worked well, even on the subway in Tianjin where the HTC One X died.

More and more sure that I have some kind of pre-release firmware - it doesn't have the Playstation store app (isn't the Ion PS-certified?).

By the way, what's the app 'log along' all about? I don't have it on my Xperia S, but I do on the Ion.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
Nice, sounds like the international one is pretty good. I was definitely thinking about getting the ATT one since I have an upgrade, but I was on the fence because of the lack of transparent bar and the size, what is stopping me for sure though is I am betting that ATT locks the bootloader similar to the HTC One X. I hate me some att.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] galashturman:
Cocytean

How long Ion is charging from 0 (5-10%) to 100%?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Well, I haven't timed it exactly, but I HAVE been impressed by the charging life so far. I drained the battery totally the other day, and it went from 0-37% in about half an hour. I'll do a full charge soon and report back.

I have to say, I'm really surprised that this phone has received so little interest on the interwebs. I know the GX is out soon, and it certainly is a lovely phone, but the Ion is also pretty damn good. I've been looking around for other people who have it/developing for it/etc., but there's a real dearth of information about it. Looks like I'm going to have to teach myself how to be a developer for it! :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kicknik:
Wanna help me out and send an ion to the US? :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
Can someone upload an .ftf?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
What are the bands on the Xperia Ion International version?

Also I really doubt the Xperia GX will be out anytime soon beyond Japan. I give it at least till October or November for release outside of it. Sony is not prompt about following release schedule and Japanese versions don't have the bands I need and no NFC which sucks.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
I'd love to send one over, but unfortunately for you the Chinese open all parcels before they are sent out and wouldn't let a phone be posted!

I can't believe how quickly the price is dropping for the Ion - it's already down to 2850 yuan on some online sites. That's about 285 GBP - for a sim-unlocked phone. Admittedly that's through the gray market, but who really cares???
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] LanceD.:
Specs.

I've been eyeing on this phone ever since I first heard of it way back at Feb. I just have a few questions about the specs....

Does it have a Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass and radio?

P.S. Is the dock on sale too?

Thanks! :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] gtrab:
+1

just curious to mess around :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
Actually I need blob_fs/SEUS files ;) So I and Doomlord can get a working kernel and rom :) He does the kernel and I the rom :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vincyuee:
anyone actually considering getting xperia ion??? =)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
The only problem is here in the US you would get an non bootloader unlockable phone from ATT. I bet it sells terrible.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lazarus65:
Are you saying this phone won't be able to be rooted? Are you certain? I don't really care either way, but the yellow tint issue is my main concern.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
Just look at the problems with the ATT One X. I hate buying a mobile that is bootloader locked by the carrier. ATT locked the Xperia Play too. I am 99 percent sure they will lock the Xperia Ion as well.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vincyuee:
Quite disapponted that ion doesnt get any major attention than the xperia s actually. Sigh... It would have been a hit if it release alongside with xperia s. currently i found a china website selling for 3180 RMB with freebies of momax case, original case Sony, screen protector, 8GB memory card and multimedia base (never mention if its Smart Dock for ion)

Can anyone verify that sintip.com is a legal dealing website?cuz i actually plan to purchase frm them. :/
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Why don't you use taobao.com? You can check the individual seller's reputation, and there are a wiser range of choices than elsewhere for package deals.

Just saw the Galaxy S III in person. Bleurgh, what a horrible looking phone. Screen is nice though, but I like the Ion's better!

When will we get our own board....I want some developer interest.....

:-(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vincyuee:
Im actually frm malaysia. Do u think u can help me out getting one? I'd been waiting for it for the past 5 months since its announced! TnT
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
U can use credit cards for some of the shops. I can't help, I wouldn't be able to post it as the Chinese examine parcels before they are sent. Phones are a no-no.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vincyuee:
Could me send me details bout it? Cuz i really gt no idea how it supposed to be. :( so sorry...

All the sellers there selling just the device itself right? Without freebies whatsoever?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Rashkae:
I'm getting a few units brought to Singapore from China -a buddy is coming back in June. :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MRE36:
Am also interested in replacing my S to ION.

Any help to get one? Website is not in english? !!!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
i'm going to ask it once again, can anyone provide me SEUS files from Xperia Ion? ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfalgout2003:
Good news for us in American!

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/29/sony-xperia-ion-hits-fcc/
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Around June 10th if I recall correctly.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Well, I've been rocking the Ion for a bit more than a week, and it's pretty much ideal. A couple of things I would change are:-

1) battery life. Not great. Gets to the end of the day with moderate use, but not enough for a power user, that's for sure, especially with internet browsing which drinks the battery like it was chocolate milk in a kindergarten

2) software. The phone has nary a stutter, and runs gingerbread smoothly and quickly,.but there are still those little quirks which nag at the overall experience, like photos coming into focus slowly in the gallery app. I was hoping for a quick rollout of ICS, but there hasn't been any mention yet.

3) sound levels. The sound quality is excellent, even through the stock headphones.(which are surprisingly good), but the levels are pretty low. Sony always seems to do this and it's a real shame. I want to be able to crank those tunes!

That's honestly about it. I much prefer this phone to my one x, and like it even more than my xperia s (blasphemy!). Mainly due to the larger screen size and the (arguably) slightly better build quality.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] randy_c:
I assume this one doesn't have AT&T 4G? Ebay listed xperia ion for sale $700.00 and running ICS?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MRE36:
Sony xperia Ion listed in Ebay

$745

Anyone know if this is the international version???
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
$745? That's insane! Prices over here are dropping like a stone. There's a store currently selling the HK international one with a bunch of free gifts for 3299 yuan - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15195248224&_u=31kvnd83e78.

No ICS for the Ion yet, not even had a single update for the phone yet from Sony. I'm guessing it will be August/Sept until it hits, when the Ion actually reaches Europe/States.

Edit: I just set up Sony Bridge on my iMac, and the PC Companion on my WIn7 PC. The Ion STILL doesn't show up as a selectable option for restoring the phone's firmware, although at least it registers as an Ion now instead of an X10 Mini like it did when I first got it!

Hurry up Sony, you're so slooooooooooowwwwww.....
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vincyuee:
bro, just wondering the ion you purchase is GENUINE??? Like is it officially from Sony? I cant help but to wonder why China able to get the mobile so fast than any other country... and till today there's isnt any official wording for global launch date other than HK and TW for now.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Totally genuine - Shows up as an Ion, has Sony software installed, all the bits and pieces are as they should be. Chinese knockoffs just look like what they are trying to imitate, they don't have the same parts. Plus the Ion is already out in HK and Taiwan, as well as Japan - Sony being an Asian company and all!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vincyuee:
I see... can I know what is included in your package when you purchase it? Does it come with screen protector and 8GB memory card?? Or does its just the device itself and basic package... no SmartTags included right?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Fairly barebones.

Headset (with the factory-installed screen protector which seems a bit more resilient than the one on the Xperia S), Sony earphones (which are awesome), usb wire, usb charging cube, and some extra earbuds for the earphones.

No memory card (didn't need one, the guy in the shop gave me a free 32g one), and no NFC tags
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Talked to my Sony friend yesterday the Ion has been pushed back to June 24th here in the US through ATT though he did say it cleared technical testing by them so their shouldn't be any more delays.

Sent from my Lumia 900
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfalgout2003:
Finally, an actual date! Is there any chance you can find out price also? I'm eligible to upgrade today. I'm hoping to hold out for the Ion, but the One X is tempting...

Sent from my SGH-I897 using hopes and dreams.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vincyuee:
awww.. I wished I can get it where you did right now!! T-T
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
I'll see what I can find out.

Sent from my Lumia 900
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Actually got a quick response. Rumor is AT&T is gonna sell them for $99 with a new contract and Sony is going to do it for $79. Again those are concrete prices but that's what it looks like right now.

Not sure on the full price but probably $499.

Sent from my Lumia 900
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ninja08:
Can you post sample pictures Testing Its close up Shot, its low light shots, Shots with lots of color, And its panorama

And a 1080p video sample
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dailokin:
Hey Cocytean,

I'm looking at getting the ion from HK can you verify the umts bands for me?

The white paper support-downloads.sonymobile.com/lt28i/whitepaper_EN_lt28i_xperia_ion.pdf shows that it supports 1700 /2100. I just wanted to make sure before i buy it to use with tmobile usa. No point in getting this phone if I can't get to use 3g.

Thanks in advance
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
When it's released in more places I can finally make a rom for it :p

I can't find a system dump, SEUS fils or whatever for Ion :(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
I certainly might consider an Ion but this is one of my fears for it. I believe development for it will not be nearly as strong as the xperia s.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] krabappel2548:
You know me I'll start for all the 2012 devices :)

I'm going to quit 2011 line soon because my rom there is coming near to a final released so I can focus more on Xperia 2012 devices :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Funk2641:
Those are they, plus ATT's LTE bands. How do I know? I have one :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dailokin:
Nice thanks for the info. I was considering the ion or the acro hd so-03d. I'm leaning toward the ion but the acro is pretty nice too.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] shangoof:
i was looking around to see if there is an ion that would run on tmobile usa 3g and this one should work according to this :

sonystyle.com.hk/products/apps/product/simplePage.do?modelCode=50357122&lang=en[/url]

it has the 1700/2100 for tmobile, very tempting right now
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
should see the release announcement on the 14th. Still slated for the 24th of this month.

Sent from my Lumia 900
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfalgout2003:
Sony is doing something on Facebook to "Fast Forward" the announcement of a new phone. Could this be the official release announcement for the Ion?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] randy_c:
AT&T xperia Ion release 6/24. Will get this one to replace my S cause of the 4G
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MyronJ906:
After seeing the announcement, I'm definitely tempted to switch to an Ion myself. I have an Atrix now, and it seems like the perfect big-brother upgrade despite it being a different brand. The only thing that has me worried is a possible locked bootloader and by extension non-existent developer community.

I mean, does anyone plan on getting this phone?

If the developers around here could get it ICS faster than Sony, I would upgrade to the Ion in a heartbeat.

So, I will personally be waiting just a little while. Until after some people more experienced than myself have it in their hands
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfalgout2003:
There are many dedicated developers for Sony phones. Doomlord pops out kernels like it's nobody's business. Sony also has been pretty cooperative with the dev community, compared to the likes of htc. I'm definitely getting it. Can't wait until the 24th. I'm drooling.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
I have an xperia s right now and I am thinking about getting the ion instead if I do like it. The bootloader is a huge issue for me though. If it is no unlockable bootloader then it is no go for me.

It sucks because it is really up to att even if sony wants to allow it.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MyronJ906:
I've been doing a little bit of research today, and have a few questions (I did read all the way through this thread)

Why would someone with an Xperia S want to move on to the Ion? Even from my Atrix 4G, the upgrade seems marginal at best. I just no longer wish to have a tegra 2 processor since it is delaying full functional ICS builds on the Atrix.

My greatest fear would be that I get an Ion and then the Atrix official ICS update (scheduled for Q3 2012) comes before the Ion's. I suppose I could sell the Ion at that point, but there went my upgrade. So I guess the Ion is slightly less likely to be a day 1 for me, and more of a "As soon as ICS is available"

Second question: What is so much better about the GX than the Ion? The steps between XS,ION,and GX seem very marginal to me. They all have just about the same specs, slightly different camera and processor.

I am just amazed by the $99 release price of the Ion. That's what brought me to the Atrix when I got it (a while after release) the specs of the One X and GS III aren't much higher than the Ion's but the price is much higher.

I guess launching with GB is part of the issue. Such a dissapointment.

Thanks for any insight you guys can give me, I'm just trying to understand more in the way of Sony Androids. I always wanted one (SE was my preferred brand pre-"smartphones") but never had the chance until now
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
The Ion has the sweet dock which would go well with my Bravia tv. That way I wouldnt have to plug in a cable each time I wanted to use it. Also at 99 dollars it is cheap.

The GX is gonna have a better processor and some people like the design better. That is the main difference. I still think the battery size of the gx sucks.

Dont worry too much about ICS, Sony GB is really good and it is worth the wait. Sony will deliver on the update, its only a matter of time.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MyronJ906:
I guess I was not aware that the XS did not have such a dock. The Atrix has me positively spoiled when it comes to docks. The different design does make sense though, I don't think the processors are going to be that big of a deal even if the GX's is better. I don't know why they decided to go with a smaller battery.

I'll take your word that Sony's GB is good. I'm just so used to running CM7 (and 90% functional CM9) that it's weird going back to any manufacturer's stock. Also, even going back to CM7 from CM9 is hard for me.

I guess as long as it is eventually delivered that's all that really matters. Thanks.

I'm looking forward to joining the Xperia community. Definitely hoping for an unlocked bootloader.