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[Android General] Veseli Vozac:
The Allwinner A10 (Cortex A8) has a singlecore 1GHz and a GPU Mali 400 (500MHz). The chinese are add the 2 procesors and write 1,5GHz :D
[Android General] GerryAttrick:
I'll be in for that!

I have one on the way from AliExpress and as I am a real Numpty with these things I am going to need all the help I can get:)

I also have my name down for a Raspberry Pi and I can't wait to see the Cotton Candy released.

I am 68 in 2 months time and I figure I can't let the grandkids have all the fun.
[Android General] seanp25:
This forum might be useful for some people: https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/1

They have ported Ubuntu to MK802, and there's talk of XBMC and CM9 ports there also.
[Android General] iakovl:
any more thoughts on the MK802? want to order it for my living room TV, just need to find a good place to buy the 1GB version
[Android General] nolook:
just ordered this one shipping july 3rd...

http://www.ovalelephant.com/p-2062-mini-pc-android-linux-linaro-a10-chip-1gb-ddr3-ram

seems like a good choice and dev is focused on getting a linaro linux/xmbc port so this might end up better/ship faster than rasbpi (i am focused on running xbmc with both)
[Android General] iakovl:
but will there be development for it? the MK802 is more common model

also... nice "mod" for MK

http://liliputing.com/2012/06/mk802-notebook-connecting-74-pc-motorola-lapdock.html

[YOUTUBE]tdMVYLif6_E[/YOUTUBE]
[Android General] :
We really need a mini PC forum. Very cool link, looks like that one supports 64GB cards.
[Android General] nolook:
it also has anti-over heating features as well so i think its a pretty good choice...hardware is very similar to mk802 but with a few tweaks...
[Android General] mistermentality:
Excuse me asking what may be dumb questions but am I right in understanding that this should work with any standard 2.4 ghz wireless mouse?

I was thinking about getting a wireless mouse to go with it and order the 1 gb mk802 for $69 as I only want it at the moment for things like netflix so until I can get a remote for it I should be able to use a mouse and use androids virtual keyboard hopefully.

Another question, is it safe to leave on for long as ideally I'd like to leave it always on as I do with my android phone, or should it be switched off when not in use?

Dave
[Android General] JTHM:
Dave,

I am currently using a Microsoft Wireless Desktop Elite keyboard and mouse with it and before I raided that from my main PC I was using a Targa 2.4GHz Wireless Laptop Mouse with the on-screen keyboard.

You should not have any difficulty with almost any standard desktop wireless mouse, though I could not get it to work with my old Gyration GO Wireless Keyboard and Gyroscopic Air Mouse (not the newer PLUS version)- USB just would not see it.

I, myself, am most interested in trying an iPazzPort wireless keyboard/air mouse which I'm waiting to be delivered from China.

I have a thread running on this exact topic over at the Rikomagic.co.uk forums where I'm trying to put a list together of working wireless keyboard & air mouse kit. It's a little (but not much!) more active over there than it is here on the subject of this device.
[Android General] mistermentality:
Thank you for the information, I ordered the 1 gigabyte version and will use it with a microsoft wireless mouse and at a later point get a proper remote.

Do you find it gets excessively hot if used a lot? I've read that after a few minutes it gets very warm and noticed they just updated the design with air vents however this was after I had already ordered the non vented version.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] JTHM:
If you haven't received it yet and you've ordered the 1GB version then you'll likely find that you'll get the one with vent holes. I pre-ordered my 1GB one at the end of last month and it arrived last week. It has the vent holes.

It does get a bit warm with use but it's fine while idle. I've been switching it off but to do so you have to crash out of the OS which scares me. From the next time I use it I'll be leaving it on.
[Android General] seanp25:
Yes, I was surprised to find my 512MB version ordered on May 24th arrived with the air holes.

There are no overheating issues, it gets a bit warm yes, but it never feels like its anything close to being dangerously hot.

Although I would question how much higher we can safely overclock the CPU.
[Android General] iakovl:
I'm gonna drill my any way when it arrives (once i finally order it)
[Android General] mistermentality:
Glad to know it shouldn't get to hot. Regarding the problem with not being able to shutdown safely has anyone tried using a power on / off widget. Something like power control plus or a free alternative?

In theory they should work and to switch back on just reconnect power after unplugging.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] JTHM:
I've been looking into them and fired off a few emails to the developers - not one has dained to respond for the past week.

Anyhow, from what I've found so far they seem to all work by simply killing the OS rather than commanding Android to exit cleanly.

I'd be chuffed to be proved wrong.
[Android General] seanp25:
I've been using something similar to this. An app called Quick Boot. The restart option works just as you'd expect. I think the Shutdown option results in a frozen screen (although I assume this is after the normal Android shutdown procedure has been completed).
[Android General] mistermentality:
It does seem that power off widgets all need root access and mk802 isn't rooted. I could write one to send it to sleep but not to fully shutdown, but when mine gets here will try some widgets too.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] seanp25:
MK802 comes rooted. Mine did anyway. Titanium Backup, SuperSU, these reboot apps etc get root access fine.
[Android General] mistermentality:
I didn't know that, in that case I'm not sure why power off widgets don't seem to work.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] ix3u:
Just got mine 20 minutes ago and can confirm it came rooted...
[Android General] yuckymucky:
Good to know! Where did you get yours from? I am really interested in getting one of these after reading through this thread.
[Android General] seanp25:
You'll find a lot of apps in the market aren't available (you won't find them through market search, and it will say it's not compatible if you click on a market link). The developers are working on fixing this in the next firmware. Also, the Youtube app that comes with it is the mobile version. Get the 3.5.5 Wifi HD version from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1529715

I've been able to get around this for most apps by downloading them from somewhere like apktops.com (or else downloading them on my phone and transferring the apk).

So far, Winamp is the only app I've found that doesn't seem to run on it. Maybe someone knows a good mp3 player for Android which is designed for tablets? (ie full screen visualisation / album art etc)
[Android General] mistermentality:
If you had an app from a phone on gingerbread could that be backed up and install the backup on the 802?

I know its ics not gb but I'm thinking of ways to get my paid apps such as overskreen onto the stick in the event the apps don't show, maybe someone's tried this?

Nice to know about issues being fixed for future update, was wondering if it would get support but took chance and bought it anyway :)

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] deathsled:
I wonder if some of the early ones weren't rooted? I had been looking at these but the comments/reviews on aliexpress had said they weren't rooted which was really putting me off.

***edit***

I appear to have been looking at some other model I guess, as I don't see any reviews stating it isn't rooted for this one.
[Android General] TDMaster:
well lightake got on Stock the 1GB Stick

according to them the Specs are :

AMD Z430 for GPU

well just bought 2 for me and my friend from Lightake..
[Android General] tallnerd1985:
Its a misquote by the Chinese manufacturers. Its a Mali GPU found in most Galaxy S series phones
[Android General] ix3u:
Got it on Amazon... Think the seller was **** Chan (or something like that) was $75 with shipping and got here from Hong Kong in 8 days!
[Android General] up4sd:
Mail-400 GPU

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I get from mcbub.com, with $72 free shipping.

already rooted, i will install antutu and check the scores.

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I confirm it is coming with rooted, i get the 512MB version from mcbub.com,and i install "root explorer" and can delete the apps in system.

lol
[Android General] Copix:
One question. I red that there are new releases with a few holes due to avoid overheating.Do you know where to buy the ones with those holes?
[Android General] mistermentality:
If you use a mouse, no keyboard, will it offer androids virtual keyboard on screen when you need to type?

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mistermentality:
I just found this which might be useful. Works over wifi or bluetooth as far as I can tell and lets you control one android using another so could use a phone as a simple remote for android stick if both have wifi on.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tournesol.tabletremote&hl=en

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] ix3u:
Yup. But it's a giant pain in the ass...
[Android General] mistermentality:
I thought it might be, just thinking of using spare mouse for now and getting the remote at a later date but wasn't sure if it would work.

Thanks.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] JTHM:
I installed this

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImh1LnN6dHVweS5hbmRyb2lkLmFsbHdpbm5lcm1vZCJd

last night ...seems pretty trick.

Set it to Motorola Xoom which let me get YouTube 4.x from the Play Store.

I've still to see what else is now available.
[Android General] efx_9:
Just got mine today. Pretty cool!

I just wonder how i can shut it down smoothly...

reboot -p doesn't work.
[Android General] JTHM:
I've been asking this on forums (this thread included) for a few weeks now but no one seems to have the answer. I've even emailed several developers of shutdown apps/widgets in the Play Store but not one of them has replied - all their products just seem to kill the Android OS. I've also asked my nephew, who's got a mate who develops Android apps, whether he could ask this mate if he'd develop one but I'm still awaiting a response there too. With a a wife and 2 kids, an hourly paid job, a house that's falling down around our ears and a garden that's intent on turning itself into a suburban jungle, I don't have time to learn to develop apps myself or I'd have done it moons ago.

There just does not seem to be the appetite anywhere to develop an app/widget for this device that mirrors the power off feature of a power button. :crying:
[Android General] efx_9:
There may be some missing files on this android device so we can't blame other software. Maybe when some custom roms pop up, we'll be able to properly shut it down :)

Now, a little off topic, i just drilled some holes on mine, for heat dissipation.
[Android General] iakovl:
well... need a place to buy it, aliexpress has a cheap options but it doesn't use paypal... makes me fill unsafe a bit (opinions on that?)

any good place to get the 1GB version (or should i go for the cheaper 512?)
[Android General] vinal:
Try exduct.com. I got mine there recently and they use paypal. Arrived fairly quick too.
[Android General] mistermentality:
Aliexpress let you pay securely with a credit or debit card, that's a good option and you can get one gigabyte version of 802 there for sixty eight dollars including delivery.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] danjayh:
Can you test 1080p video playback on this? I'm considering getting one of these instead of a media center PC, and I just wanna make sure that it'll play my whole library. I'm also curious if HD netflix and HD youtube work OK...
[Android General] ix3u:
That's what I used it for. Using Emit to stream all my movies and shows from a different room to my tv.
[Android General] rsbuffalo:
The MK802 can't play blu-ray with either wifi wireless or usb Ethernet connections consistently. I did get a few blu-ray 1080p to play both wifi wireless and usb Ethernet (not many) without studders. However, all the ripped blu-ray movies did play from the otg usb port perfectly on the MK802. Both Tversity and Plex Servers played wifi wireless and usb Ethernet great to the MK802 no problems. Both Tversity and Plex Servers do adjust bandwidth to play smooth. Also the MK802 tethered to my E4GT phone did play well with both servers.
[Android General] iakovl:
But I still give them the credit card data

Anyway, what's the link for the 68$?
[Android General] mistermentality:
I thought your worries might have been transaction security specifically rather than simply just lack of paypal so apologies for my misunderstanding but they do use moneybookers which I think is like paypal if that helps?

Checked link and it was $69.70 not 68 so I forgot exact price but here is link....

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-g...oid-IPTV-google-tv-allwinner-wholesalers.html

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] vinal:
Did you pop the case before drilling those? I'm thinking of adding holes to mine too, but don't have a drill press to limit depth.

[edit]: I've found it doesn't get as warm when I don't lay it flat on a surface and let it dangle in the air, so I'll probably hold off drilling any holes for now.
[Android General] iakovl:
thx

well.. just ordered from them, 73$ cheap and via paypal...

now all i have to do is wait

if someone wants, just got a 5% cupon for them after purchase
[Android General] deadhp1:
I was going to order the mk802, but then I read about the HDMI esd issues.

They don't have any esd protection on the hdmi port which could possibly cause it to pop, or even worse cause the port on the tv to pop.

I'm still not concerned about that so much as I am about some people having wireless problems with the hdmi plugged in.

I would of still ordered one if I could of payed with paypal on the $64.99 deal, but aliexpress doesn't take paypal and that deal ends monday.

Instead I'm pre-ordering a Oval Elephant K-A10.

It's pretty much a slightly bigger 1gb mk802 with a male hdmi port, hdmi esd protection, and a better power chip.

Total shipped ~$80 and it comes with a mouse.

I'll probably snag an original mk802 when the price gets down a little more.

XBMC will soon be working on these devices and I could always use another smart tv.

Also for the really adventurous there is the CX-01(telechips tcc8923 dual core cortex a5, mali400, 512md, 4gb, wifi, NO microsd)

It can be had for 39.99 through pandawill with the coupon from a russian site.

Pandawill can be payed through paypal!
[Android General] phinphan:
I bought this from Aliexpress and paid for the DHL shipping. I received it in less than a week so I am a happy customer in terms of delivery.

Has anyone been able to get location services to work? When I try and use MLB At Bat the program can never find my location. None of the location spoofing apps like fake gps will install. Any suggestions?
[Android General] iakovl:
if one (aka me) would like to open an "official"/"main" thread for the MK802 for collecting all data related to it in one place, where would one open it in the forum?
[Android General] efx_9:
I did open the case to drill, since i did use an ordinary driller.

I'm not sure this affects internal temperature but since the new design has some holes in it, i thought it would be better to do it too.

Regarding the shutdown issue, has anyone found a way of do it "safely"? I was wondering, maybe if we replace the file \system\bin\reboot by one from another ICS rom/device, then maybe we could use “reboot -p" command to do it. Is anyone willing to try it? I'm not currently at home :)
[Android General] iakovl:
dont know about you...

in my case, when the MK arrives, i'm going to power it from the TV usb plug = when tv shuts down so does the MK
[Android General] mistermentality:
Won't that only work if your tv goes fully off and into standby as most tv's provide current to usb until switched off.

And that wouldn't switch it off safely as desired but simply crash out of the system which may cause problems. Ideally we would be able to shutdown using a command and then power off the device.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] vinal:
Since the device can reboot and it freezes when a shutdown occurs (from command line or market app), the os seems to do It's part. May be that there is no hw to cut off power to chips so video out stays on . I think I saw my device go to sleep on a timeout once, but normally it doesn't. If they do have an io port to cut power, they obviously don't write to it properly. Hard to do much more without hw/sw info.

My 2¢.
[Android General] efx_9:
Yes, i see your point but I'm gonna try it anyway to make sure.

Connecting it to the usb port from the tv may be unstable, i don't know if the device needs more than 500mA, which is the max current you get from the regular (non chargers) usb ports.
[Android General] bizz2012:
Hi guys,

Really interested in one of these. Where is the best place to get one? I live in the UK. England specifically! :D

Thanks
[Android General] JTHM:
I ordered my 1GB version from Aliexpress. By DHL it took about 3 days and Michelle at Rikomagic was very helpful in her broken English. You can also have one dropshipped from Rikomagic.co.uk or myminipc.co.uk are taking orders. I've also read of several other sources too, inc. Amazon, but not looked myself.
[Android General] krankdroid:
just got my 512 MB Ram today.

it was held up in cutoms. ended up paying double the cost.

it runs pretty well. screen settings forces settings to crash. dropbox app is not working for me for some reason. my biggest problem is setting up ipazzport KP-810-10BTT wireless bluetooth keyboard i got for it.

the mk802 has no bluetooth, but my keyboard has a full size bluetooth dongle. however it is not working as of right now.

i cant download the tablet remote app for the mk802 only for my phone. so that is not even an option.

i have found no lag. it is 1 second slower than my samsung galaxy in browser and such. but i will be using it for watching content. so far it streams really well
[Android General] bizz2012:
Thanks. Will check that out.

Funny that I have been looking at these and then I get an email saying I can order a Raspberry Pi :)

Now to decide what to do.
[Android General] Veseli Vozac:
has anyone a good iptv app or something like that?
[Android General] Rebeljt:
Flash Video Browser

Has anyone tested it with Flash Video Browser?

JT
[Android General] nolook:
i decided to cancel my order and just wait for my raspberry pii (and nexus 7)
[Android General] GerryAttrick:
Mine arrived 2 days ago from Aliexpress. It was the 512mb model and has 2 rows of about 5 tiny holes drilled in the back. I'm not sure how effective they will be for cooling as I have seen some with slots cut in the sides.

Yesterday I preordered a Raspberry Pi nd I have a lapdock on its way.:o

Why do I want all these "toys"

I got involved in programming back in the days of the BBC and Spectrum (I guess that dates me) and let things slide when work and family took priority.

Now I am due to retire and I figure its time to find something else to exercise my brain cells. Now to decide the next steps should be..and I am sure I am going to be a regular visitor here.
[Android General] rkaede:
im tempted to get this mk802. newer design seems slimmer. and have the air vent.

did anyone tried with usb webcam? i know usb ethernet works. coz the only thing that make it warm i believe is the wifi chip.
[Android General] jwzhao:
Any tips on what would be the best usb ethernet adaptor to use? will those cheap 3 dollars one on ebay work?

thx
[Android General] ovenowner:
Does android mini pc MK802 support 1080p output?

I've read some reviews about this device,which ways that it can support 1080p output only when the device run Ubuntu, Fedora, or Puppy Linux OS.

Is that true?
[Android General] mistermentality:
Mine arrived today, can't try it until get mouse tomorrow, but how are you powering it by usb?

Mine has only a small circular power input, there is one full usb for controller and smaller usb labelled otg.

EDIT: I figured it out. Using the OTG port connected to TV does power the device but it reboots itself. Manual says it uses 5 volts and my tv says usb port might not power devices that need this much so it is likely just my tv but does work fine using the standard power connector included.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mistermentality:
I found a mouse so can use my new mk802 but as I have a plasma tv, when watching netflix I find I need to hide the four white dots that are at bottom of screen when watching video so they won't burn in. Is there a way to hide these?

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mistermentality:
Apparently yes but this is being corrected in an update that is coming soon.

Mine outputs in only 720p but that's fine for me as although my tv can handle 1080p the sets actual resolution is only 720p and Netflix in HD looks just fine which is one of the main reasons I wanted to get it :)

Dave
[Android General] alra:
The current version does not work with USB Camera. Manufacture says it will be available in Version 2

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I have the same "dots" issue but only when moving the mouse (OSD) on MX Player it will show the dots (back, home, task manager) when you move the mouse - at the same time it shows the UI for the MX Player.

Moving the mouse while in playback mode of a video is the same as touching the screen on your phone = it will show the fwd, rewind, play, timeline etc. for a few seconds (and the dots at the bottom) and then after x seconds the video will go full screen again and the dots are gone.

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I have played some FLASH games using the built-in browser as well as FLASH videos.

I am a newbie poster so cannot post URLs

But search on YouTube for "Android Mini PC Screenshots" and on that video around 1:49 he opens a FLASH game:

video id is: wycdQNiZbnM
[Android General] ovenowner:
yes,it can run iptv or something like that,especially for youtube.

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it just supports b\g without built in 3G or blue tooth.you can use wireless mouse or keyboar for controls.
[Android General] mistermentality:
Unfortunately the netflix app keeps the dots on screen full time unlike the video players do.

But I've found an app that stops the dots being there, haven't tried it myself yet but apparently it was designed for this problem and can make the menu itself dissappear so hopefully that will sort netflix :)

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] rkaede:
and the app name is?

:D
[Android General] mistermentality:
I found the app via the following thread at rikomagic forums. The page is http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60&p=261&hilit=netflix#p261 and thread tells you how to get it.

Basically you need busybox and then the hide bar app will hide bar until you tell it not to.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )