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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
OK, here's some side-by-side comparison shots of the Xperia S and the Ion, as well as a screenshot capture of the Antutu benchmark.

Phone has been running for most of the day, a little glitchy at first but seems to be settling down quite nicely now. Battery life seems a little low, but I'm going to use it for a couple of cycles before I make a final decision about it. Texting, calling, etc are fluid and clear, and the screen is very, very responsive - none of the little hitches and hiccups which seemed to afflict the One X
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
I don't know how to do that....
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] SonyXperiaS:
Still screen probs with the new devices..Damn.

What the hell happened to Sony???:confused: I think the divorce with Ericsson din't go well. :p

Anyways Xperia ion looks like a bombshell. Does the aluminium coating gets scratches easily or is it scratch free?? ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Totally scratch-free, but it does smudge up a bit. Just ordered a couple of cases and a screen protector to replace the factory-installed one.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] celsior360:
Hopefully when this phone is out, the the price of XP & XS will dropped dramatically.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Scratchling:
They wont.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] celsior360:
Not in HK, they DO!

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Can you describe how the battery last, do you have a portable with you all the time when it ran out; how long can it last?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] o>c:
Yeah the price of phones can drop quite quickly in Hong Kong.

I think I may buy a visa card sized portable power when it comes out.

The battery life is ok when browsing by wifi, but drops very quickly when browsing by 3G :(. Stand by is also fine, battery level only drops a few percent when standing by.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MattDoza:
Have you tried uninstalling some of the bloatware? I've read that its not too much, on ATT's behalf, but most of what's on the phone, can be easily uninstalled.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Most of it can be but there are still like 4-5 apps you can't remove. Hopefully we can get a root method to take care ofbthat problem.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] petes67bird:
Just ordered 2 of these. Now before I give this to my wife tomorrow we need to pick up a case for protection. I was looking for ballistic sg case but cannot find it, any other comparable cases. Also this is our first smartphone, should I pay att for insurance on these. Thanks Peter
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] aruppenthal:
Yeah its those few that seem to run too lol. Go figure. I think a root will solve most of the issues i have with the device. Lets hope someone figures it out sometime soon.

Depends on your luck with insurance lol. Ive never had it and only needed it once in 10+ years and ATT cut me a deal on a replacement.. I have friends that go through three phones a year.

No way to turn it off that ive found.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] petes67bird:
Thanks for all the answers. Last one is just about what you guys are doing to protect your phones. What cases are there and which ones are good. The Incipio Sicrylic case appears available but looks like it doesnt have enough side support.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfalgout2003:
Incipio makes 3 different cases that provide three different types of protection. The Silicrylic seems to have the best protection. I actually have the feather on the way because I don't want a thick case filling up my pocket. Unfortunately I dropped my phone on pavement today. DON'T drop it. I have 2 nice chunks of plastic missing. The feather probably wouldn't have stopped the damage.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] petes67bird:
I am not too concerned about me, but my wife works with children which scares me. Lets hope the silicrylic cases withstand drops.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Swishaa:
My battery life isn't too bad but what really worrys me is that my ion has zero service where my skyrocket had nearly full bars. Spent 71% of the day w/O service.

Anyone else have this problem?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] josemald:
Thanks everybody for all the info and reviews. I'll get the phone in Best Buy in the next few days (would have it already if the sales rep had been able to upgrade a business account), in case it doesn't work for me they told me they don't charge a restock fee.

One last question for now, has anyone used it with a 64 GB micro SD card? I thought I read somewhere that it can take them, but couldn't find the page now and couldn't find anything in the manual either.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] petes67bird:
Ok, after calling pretty much every manufacturer of cases i.e. Ballistic, Trident, Puregear, Speck etc, only 2 manufacturers has a protective case out and ready for sale. Everyone else said "soon" with no date. Puregear has their dualtech extreme shock case but its extremely bulky and available through ATT for 40.00 or ebay for 34.00. I went ahead and purchased directly from incipio's website for the silicryllic case for 29.99. I also scoured the web and wanted to pass on a promo code for anyone else who wants to protect their new phone and needs a case. The code is SUM2012 and saves 6 dollars per case. So for about 23 dollars, you get hopefully what turns out to be a good case. I will post a review of the phone when it gets delivered tomorrow, and the following day I should get my case, I paid for 2nd day air fedex. Thanks for all the help. Pete
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] souperman7340:
Cases?

@petes67bird It looks like Incipio has the best selection of cases. Really surprised that there is such a poor selection overall.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EG8196:
at&t logo ruined the phone......

I would buy it if there was no att logo, $450 outright is cheap
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] petes67bird:
So I missed the delivery today by 6 minutes cause I had to go to work.

I do have a question on charging the battery. Is it better to drain the I initial charge down then charge to full or just charge to full right away? Also we have always charged our phones at night regardless of how much battery is left, is this an ok process as well? I am just worried cause you cannot replace battery. Thanks
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jameswood24:
agree!! Maybe the Rogers version will have "Sony" logo, like the Xperia X10 did..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] naplesbill:
I really don't see what the big deal is about the ATT logo. I don't even notice it.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] gmac1990:
You say you had a one x, how does this compare to the HTC one x?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfalgout2003:
Third day and battery life has improved. 2 days ago I was down to 20% within 12 hours with moderate use. Today I went 15 hours before getting to 20% with slightly heavy usage. I will note that I used the included battery saver app for the first half of the day before testing Bluetooth capabilities.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] randy_c:
Did you try the 64gb?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] josemald:
I ordered the card already, since the Amazon page for Sandisk 64 GB class 6 has a lot of reviewers saying that it works with many older phones. I don't have the card yet and neither the Ion. Tried buying through Sony store, but they would only sell it if you sign a new contract, which would mean giving up my 200 Mb data plan and 200 SMS plan. I'll try Best Buy to see if they sell it as an upgrade and let me keep my current plan, if not I'll try an at&t store.

I'll post when I get the card.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
They should be able to upgrade you. Might have to call them on the phone though to do that.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] souperman7340:
You can upgrade through the Sony website, just call AT&T customer care and make sure they note your account before you upgrade with the features that you want to keep. Then finish the upgrade, call care when you get your phone and have them complete the upgrade, make sure you have them check the notes again so they get the right features added back onto the line.

I just did it this way and was able to keep my unlimited data by doing this!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cjna:
I bought mine at Bestbuy yesterday as an upgrade for $49.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] josemald:
I got my 64 GB card (Sandisk class 10 according to package, although I ordered a class 6) and it worked with my Ion. I got an error message when I inserted it first, so I formatted it with the phone (settings, storage, unmount SD card, and then erase SD card). After that I manually copied everything from the original 8 GB card to the new one, without overwriting the files and folders created in the card. Everything is working good so far, I was able to sync music using Windows Media Player and install a lot of apps without a problem.

About the phone, it is great. There is absolutely no issues with the speaker, especially the volume. Maybe the reviewers didn't use the xLoud setting and didn't remove the plastic cover from the back. Music is very loud, about half the volume is equivalent to the max volume I had with the TouchPro2. The speaker phone sound clear to me and very loud.

I'm not a heavy user, but the battery is lasting more than a day, and right now I'm messing a lot with the phone (but I'm not on LTE area). My previous phone was Windows Mobile, so I'm trying to find my way around Android. My main issue right now with Android is how to control the data usage, it's not very easy to have everything under manual sync and have the sync function easily accessible. Also, I'm not being able to sync pictures with the contact info that came from Gmail. If anyone knows how to make the Google contacts sync with the Phone contacts, please let me know, I think the Facebook app only syncs pictures with phone and not Gmail.

The phone has been so far very responsive and I've never seen any program being closed, the phone can hold a lot of them running. Scrolling down on websites has been very fast too (I'm using Firefox browser), occasionally I've seen a small delay (less than half a second) on a newspaper site that has a lot of pictures.

There is a LOT of AT&T crap on this phone, which I'm not used to as I had a custom rom on my TouchPro2. Still, I don't think there is a need for a custom rom on this phone as it is very responsive, just a way to remove the bloat. Tethering would be nice too.

The phone built is great, feels very sturdy and is quite thin (for me, coming from my old phone). I still have to get used to not having a physical keyboard, but it should be a matter of time. The screen is just amazing, I can't see any flaw. The glass is very prone to smudges and is not scratch-proof (mine already has two scratches, luckily very superficial, so they are only visible with the screen off under direct light), so a case or shield is recommended. I got a low profile "leather" case from Amazon for $11 and a hard shell for $7.

I haven't had any signal problems yet (phone or wireless), but I haven't tested it in locations where I know my old phone lost signal. Just keep in mind that bars alone are meaningless, which is how I think reviewers checked for signal, since none of them mentioned signal strength in dBm, which the phone does provide.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MattDoza:
Oh, the 64GB worked?! Nice!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] randy_c:
I am surprised that this phone got a very low profile from AT&T and end user. Good price for off-contract but nobody want to buy this one?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] randy_c:
Thanks. Just ordered 64gb card
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] zerrudo:
I was a bit hesitant due to the lack of a physical keyboard, but I have played around with my buddies iPhone 4s/ipad and other androids and I realized the physical keyboard actually made me type slower...

Downside, texting while driving is a lot harder than with my blackberry..BUT thats dangerous and illegal these days, so I can live without. (thats what Stop lights are for!) ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
and dictation.

Sent from my Lumia 900
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] zerrudo:
oh, I forgot thats even an option..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Imdking:
I have actually been waiting on the Xperia S to be released in the U.S, but it is nowhere in sight. Then the Ion came out on the 24th. Great! but it is LOCKED to AT&T. Even if you buy it with no commitment! Ain't that some shyt! I have been on AT&T for about 10 years, but never on contract! I travel to Botswana every December, and I like to take my phone to use overseas. I even take a couple of extras for family. Maybe sell 1 or 2.

But in 2010 I bought my X10 from Sony Style in December, with no commitment for 400 big ones. Flashed it with North American generic rom, and I was happy.... until I left the country for the X-mas holidays, and found out my phone was locked to AT&T!!!! Oooh, I was very cross!

So, I am NEVER buying a phone that is "Only from AT&T". No Xperia S yet, no Ion yet either. Once a truly unlocked S or Ion hits the US, I'll be on it like white on rice!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] earbrain:
Don't hold your breath on that one, it's a N America thing. Land of the free...home of the deregulated businesses to bend u over and ram it home. I mean how many versions of Google Play does one need??? I want the REAL one.

Just venting a little, I dont want AT&T's version of anything much less to wait on their asses to decide wither or not they want to dedicate the dev (or not) towards the latest OS inevitably holding up releases over crap Im just going to rip outa there. Isn't it enough that they have my $ on a monthly basis for 2-years???

I know this is a necessary evil since the status quo is none the wiser but it makes absolutely no sense to me to impede progress in order to make a buck. Just wish ALL players could get on board with the examples set by AOS but Im afraid here in America such a concept is more like wishful thinking. eb
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Unlocked Xperia S will be available from Sony in the US on July 13th.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] samven582:
any word on the xperia p?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Anyday. They are just waiting for it to hit their logistics warehouse.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] samven582:
looks its available at sonystyle.com and amazon.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Auggy99:
what the hell ? i was under the impression that the S was never coming to the US. had I known I probably would have waited
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] earbrain:
Not for $99. lOl
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] samven582:
looks like the USA version of the Xperia S and Xperia P can be bought on Newegg and Amazon
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] samven582:
Its available on Amazon and Newegg
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] randy_c:
Just got my experia ion. I like it much better than SXS because of the 4G speed got over 6MB download. I owned both so if you have AT&T get the ion. Better price too.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Aprentice_:
Hi All,

I am still waiting to get the Xperia Ion as I am a big fan of sony phones...but from the reviews I read on the internet, they say the hardware is outdated, there is some lag, the 12MP camera isn't as advertised and mainly the navigation buttons are not responsive and it gives you a hard time using the phone. adding the reviews about the the low volume of the speaker!!

may you kindly comment since you already have the phone.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jeriku:
Hardware - dual core 1.5ghz hardly outdated. The phone is quick and smooth imo.

Camera - takes really nice photos. I went from a 8 to this 12 and its awesome.

Navigation Buttons - They are different not unresponsive. Slide up on them and they work every time.

Speaker -seems great to me with xload enabled.

We have root, ics and sources now. We're just waiting on a bl unlock.

Sent from Rooted LT28at with ICS.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Aprentice_:
thank you for the info.

one more clarification: by speaker i meant the "ear speaker". reviews saying during a phone call the volume is very low and you have to push the phone on your ear so you can the other person.

what about the battery? can't be removed?

the navigation buttons: are they capacitive or there is a switch below the ribbon that you have to press (reviews).
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jeriku:
Ear speaker seems fine to me, but to be honest I use some kind off headset most of the time.

Battery is not an issue for me. Life gets better after a "burn-in" time, and better still w ics. Plus I have chargers everywhere. Also I think non removable batteries are going to be fairly standard ongoing.

The nav buttons are capacitive. To be honest the indirect activation is nice. I don't get mishandle pushes.

Sent from Rooted LT28at with ICS.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] zackspeed:
Dont listen to the reviews. This is a very nice device and the only reason it got bad reviews is do to it being on GB. The specs are not that far off the top level devices these days. This is a much better built device than any HTC I have had or held and the screen makes the GS3 look lame and outdated. I can easily go 13 hours on a charge with heavy use too. The touch buttons are not really an issue once you get used to them. After having a Sony Play and seeing how stable it is I was sold on Sony. Sony has their stuff together but everyone is so blind by the bandwagon lol.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] KEB64:
+1 @jeriku and zackspeed.

Sent from my LT28at
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Toledo_JAB:
This phone is built like a tank.

The capacitive buttons take a little getting used to, much like an on screen keyboard.

Pictures are awesome, better than my X10. I also have recorded a video of a concert and it turned out great.

As far a lags go, apps open instantly, camera takes fast pics.

ICS has fast internet, compared to gingerbread.

Best thing to do is find a store and put the phone in your hands.

This is the best value of any phone on the market.

The only thing I worry about is Sony not pushing Jelly bean to the ION.

from my LT28at, rooted and eating an Ice Cream Sandwich :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] thejosetree:
The Capacitive buttons are far more responsive than Xperia S, the Hardware is not outdated and the screen is gorgeous.

Simply don't listen the reviews.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] josemald:
Agree with everything above. Volume and clarity of calls using the phone speaker (as call and as speakerphone) is very good, much better than my previous two HTC phones. I don't notice any lag in the phone either.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Abhishek Darekar:
Nothing about this phone is outdated this phone can easily challenge the s3 and HTC one x
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] droidiac13:
I have the One X, but I'm getting bored with it. I played around with the Ion at the local store and I was impressed with the speed. I didn't notice any difference in speed between the two, but yet I'm hesitant.... My biggest concern is picture quality. The HOX pics are wonderful!

My HOX has been Nocturnal'd. Has yours?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jeriku:
I can't say one way or the other in comparing HOX and SXI cameras, but the 12mp camera in the SXI takes pretty damned good pictures.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] droidiac13:
Thanks. I thought I saw a picture thread, but for the life of me, I'm having a hard time finding it. LOL
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jeriku:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1748541
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] droidiac13:
Wow. Thanks man! You didn't have to do that.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jeriku:
It's all good. The more interest on here for the SXI the better, lol.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] droidiac13:
Well, I am taking the plunge. Brand new in the box for $290 shipped. Pretty good deal?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] earbrain:
Ion in hand I agree w everything said here. Aside from the at&t dev issues(which I was perfectly aware of before buying) Im completely satisfied w my purchase.

Another fine machine from Sony. eb
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dcuchillas:
Hello, guys. I realized this is a BUMP, but I just got my ION Today, After using a HOX for over a month (my screen died, so I just replaced the entire phone) I can say, that this two match, considering that the ion is consider to be a lesser phone. The only downside so far is the camera, my wife's Arc S takes better photos, still I just took 3-5 photos, maybe that'll change in opinion.

I wanted to root the device, I saw this guide, is this ok to follow?

http://theunlockr.com/2012/07/17/how-to-root-att-sony-xperia-ion-smartphone/

Also, has anyone find a way to get rid of all At&T Bloatware??

Thanks!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Narathan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1812168 This forum contains all you must know for rooting etc etc...

About the At&T bloatware, here's a snipped off of a topic about bloatware removal.

Myself, I use bloatfreezer, to do this
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Use Bin4ry's method to root then just delete the bloatware manually. Or flash the LT28i firmware for no bloatware or branding and enjoy wifi hot spot.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] zackspeed:
I just used Spectra51's 3.7 de odex setup with root of course and I am very pleased with how smooth it is. As for the camera the stock one does seem to lack some from its siblings but with Cybershot mod that completely changes.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dcuchillas:
Thanks, I will try to do all the process. My phone is att&t, and it says that the bootloader cannot be unlocked, but I can do it with that guide, right?

It's ok then to flash the international firmware on my phone? would I still be in ICS?

Thanks
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
No you can't unlock the bootloader but you can root. Yes the LT28i firmware works just fine on the at&t ion and is ICS.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ ion
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mcmanone:
Hi ok new at this too lol I have a mts xperia ion and flashed the firmware to 6.1.e.2.68 but I rooted it but if I cant unlock the bootloader at all if it says bootloader unlocked no so that means I can only put on sony firmware and no other like cymod? Thanks
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
You can only use stock based roms. Nothing that requires a custom kernel.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] zackspeed:
Seeing as the R800x got a unlock this past year Sony will eventually unlock the Ion and others. Unless some keen devs crack it first ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] daniel090588:
Man will this cellphone come with at&t brand? When sony anounced it they say it was exclusive for this carrier, i say because i want it but i dont want all the at&t integration y rather buy this than xperia s to finally trade my lovely arc s
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Smartphoner:
I love the design!!!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
Can't wait to get mine. Really dig the Xperia s and Xperia ion.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cocytean:
Well, it's not all sweetness and light after all.

Phone has crashed several times now. It freezes, followed by the message 'crash detected!!!! Ram dumping!!!', and it then performs a complete system dump, which takes a few minutes. Very irritating. This could be down to a few things...

1) I have a defective phone

2) I've installed an app on it called 'weixin' which is kind of like a free messaging software. I had to local install the app as Google Play says it's not compatible with my phone. It could be causing a conflict somewhere (this is total guesswork, I have no idea)

3) The current firmware for the Ion is buggy, and I am on a pre-release firmware

4) God hates me

I've just wiped the phone and am going to run it for a bit with no apps installed, just my Google account synced to it. See what happens. I wish the phone was already out so that I could flash another firmware to it! Guess being an early adopter really does suck after all....:(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] o>c:
So when did this problem occur? After you have installed weixin?