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[Thunderbolt General] Baconrules21:
That's why you have internet at home, for those kinds of things. You don't need to tether inside your house.

Also, I PERSONALLY could not sit there and stare at my screen (not that I even could, Thunderbolt battery life is beyond horrible) all day. I understand what you're saying but they, like the post above me mentioned, have to make money somehow as well.

What I'm getting to is there is no reason to use that much data every month. I have unlimited and I love it. I use it to stream Pandora, Netflix occasionally and my Google Music all the time. I still average out to around 2 - 5 gigs a month. I would not want to change from unlimited to anything else, but I find it absurd that people can pull off so much data for no reason.
[Thunderbolt General] yelow79:
I rarely tether (though I do tether from time to time my laptop) and I average between 15-20gigs a month. Also I rarely have to charge my phone more than at night when I sleep. It can be done. Besides we shouldn't have to pay for the same service twice. It's not about making money, it's about making more money (greed). Greed is what is killing this country and why I am ashamed to be an American.
[Thunderbolt General] dizzyman1180:
+1 agreed. Someone else who gets it.

sent from above
[Thunderbolt General] brandogg:
That's the silliest thing I've read all day.

Anyway - if you actually use 15-20GB a month, and don't tether, then what exactly are you doing that requires so much bandwidth? Netflix? I'll admit I don't use that much 3G data anymore (shorter drive to work), but I used to stream Pandora or Slacker for at least an hour (sometimes up to 8 hours), and watch the Office...and very rarely even hit 4GB in a month.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
I used to use 6GB+ a month, back when I streamed Pandora every night and was never on WiFi. By using Google Music (which caches my music), and using WiFi at home I now only use 1.5-3GB per month.
[Thunderbolt General] bpyazel:
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[Thunderbolt General] mad96:
Anybody that thinks using over 10g a month w/o tethering is ignorant, I do it every month by doing normal things like using what people call internet. I never tether, have WiFi at home and do absolutely nothing illegal, some do, but I don't like being classed as the problem becouse a lucky few were smart enough to have or keep unlimited data. Preach to Verizon if they never offered it we wouldn't have it.

M.A.D.
[Thunderbolt General] dizzyman1180:
+1 on that
[Thunderbolt General] atomic ferret:
Well, I guess I'll be buying retail from now on...
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
With the $40 smart phone access makes sure you don't save money under new plan, is it basically 9.99 normal access fee and 29.99 data fee just like it always was. Only thing different is u get cheaper unlimited talk, if people use phones to talk anymore. The new plans would not save my family any money I already did all calculations more money for less data.....90 bucks for 8 GBs when my parents alone pay $60 for 8 GBs.....I thought Verizon would try to make this work well for families, instead they this less is more money!!!
[Thunderbolt General] yelow79:
It's super easy to use 20gb a month when you have 4g, stream a few highdef videos and bam it's all over.
[Thunderbolt General] mad96:
Agree totally, and if you use only 3g all month you'll use half the amount of data or more. 4 times the speed means watching more or surfing more in a fraction of the time. It's not abuse if your "just" using what you've been given.

M.A.D.
[Thunderbolt General] jedijoe84:
Unlimited = Unlimited

Heres the part thats maddening. Theres always an argument about teathering, blah blah blah. But what about the people that use huge or "excessive" amounts of data in legitimate ways? I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan on my thunderbolt, and at work i have 4 breaks lasting a half hour each. Just enough time to watch a nice lengthy netflix movie (on my cellphone mind you). And roughly 4 movies a week if im not streaming music, surfing the net, facebooking, or txting just my line alone uses 15-20 gigsa month minimum. All with out tethering, and wifi on at home. I guess im just going to keep on scratching my head and say Verizon, I pay you for legitimate unlimited use of my cell phone, i expect legitimate unlimited use of my cellphone.

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[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Ok I wish everyone would just stop blaming the <2% of users for Verizon changing their plans. I am unlimited user but only use about 2 GBs of data a month, I am on WiFi at home by choice its just as fast as 4G but I get better battery life, I work in a hospital so WiFi is only way to go at work due to poor signal. There is a very small percent of people who use over 10 GBs of data yet have unlimited data. I would consider if you have unlimited and use under 10 GBs you are a very light user. Now for the people who use over 10 GBs even if they use up to 150 GBs who cares????? You pay for unlimited right? How would you like Verizon to call you and say you had 10,000 text this month we are taking your unlimited text away, or you are using to much unlimited mobile to mobile minutes. They want to attach unlimited to the front of a word and not expect a small percent of users to not test out unlimited like a fat person would an all u can eat buffet. Now grow up and just deal with the change in plans, I plan to buy my phones from Google play store at end of year new nexus devices, can't wait to see them. I won't give up my unlimited data anytime soon.
[Thunderbolt General] natypes:
Meanwhile at Verizon

Verizon on Friday reported revenue of US$27.9 billion for the third quarter, up 5.4 percent from the third quarter of 2010. Net income was $3.5 billion, up from $2.7 billion a year earlier. Adjusted earnings per share were $0.56, beating analyst expectations of $0.55.

Revenue for Verizon Wireless was $17.7 billion for the quarter, up from $16.3 billion, or by 9.1 percent, in the third quarter of 2010. Mobile data revenue was $6.1 billion, up 20.5 percent from the year earlier.

Verizon Wireless added 1.3 million connections during the quarter, bringing the company's total number of mobile customers to 107.7 million.

And However we want to use OUR UNLIMITED data is up to US. So, when you drive your car you never speed? I mean just b/c a car can go over the speed limit doesn't mean you are supposed to be doing it by that logic.

What happened was Verizon realized that once people loved and depended on their phones data that they could do this and get richer.
[Thunderbolt General] donc113:
Seriously.. WTF good are HiDef video on the TB with a 4.3" screen?

In landscape mode... You have a whooping 480 lines of resolution, that is LESS than std. Def. Tv
[Thunderbolt General] bpyazel:
I was going to say that too. Who watches high def on a phone? Even if it had the resolution to play it at high def, human eyes wouldn't be able to see a difference on a 4-inch screen.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Guys, I think he means that he uses his data connection to stream the movies in hi def on a tv.
[Thunderbolt General] mad96:
I take it you never watch a YouTube video in hd or anything. Else on your phone You must be a Facebook junky that will only watch tv when you get home, Go blueray! And if your on a 4inch screen must be a iPhone lol

M.A.D.
[Thunderbolt General] TheBeardedMann:
You guys are talking about HD right now, it's the future that is the problem. That's why Verizon is killing unlimited now, before HD is the norm.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26418230&postcount=55
[Thunderbolt General] BuffaloChips:
Who cares what kind of video anyone is watching on their phone? The fact that someone uses 15 - 20gb a month on something that is totally legitimate is the point. The only "abuse that you can actually do is to tether without paying for a "hotspot" plan. Once I get the funds to buy the extended batteries for mine, I will be burning a lot more data. I don't do much now because of battery life. But, unlimited means no limits.
[Thunderbolt General] egofreak:
You know, I sympathize with the 20gb+ a month crew. I only use my bolt for streaming netflix( which is an advertised feature), listening to pandora, and reddit. Guess what? I blew through 35gb last month. How? I watched 3 tv series ( long ones I just finished battle star galactica for example). Honestly if you go to Verizon's website and use the "gb calculator" to see how much of a data plan you would need you can easily hit around 25 GB a month using THEIR MATH.

Honestly if you wanted people ONLY using 2-4gb a month, DONT advertise netflix streaming, DONT advertise ANY streaming.In fact dont even advertise APP store usage, trying tons of apps will destroy your cap. I can go through a gig trying out new applications in a week or so if its a new rom flash setup. Not even going to get started with dropbox.....oh and uh... the netflix streaming my ipad does over tether...but what ever. If i actually got a dataplan on my ipad i'd get DESTROYED on data fees. That is why it gets tethered. In the age where ONE FILE on average can be OVER A gig in the age of drop box sync is CRIMINAL.
[Thunderbolt General] bofhemeritus:
Sadly, I've seen that the FCC has been trying to allow for metering on broadband Internet... for home and/or work use. Won't it be nice when Comcast decides that instead of giving you 30Mbps for $50/month, they decide to give you 30Mbps (Maximum 25GB!) for $50/month with an overage fee?

I'm all for paying my share of keeping the infrastructure running, but charging in such a manner is tantamount to gouging. And, it's the same with Verizon... they should leave unlimited alone, reintroduce the plan - that alone would certainly improve their customer-facing image.

Currently, I'm put into a situation of being forced to have a data plan because I have a "smartphone", yet being punished when I use that data plan... Yeah, smooth move, Verizon! You have me both coming and going.
[Thunderbolt General] BuffaloChips:
I'm still concerned about the way they are allowing you to keep the plan. Once you are "out of contract," they can just turn around and give you a deadline to sign a new contract with your upgrade. That would keep you from riding along on your current phone. The upgrade at FULL RETAIL could become required for a new 2 year contract to allow you to keep it.

Some say that they will just buy a used phone off ebay or craigslist. What if they use that as an excuse to put you on a data plan? Eventually they would likely figure out if you just buy a phone and pop your sim card in and go to using it.

In the end, I expect to go to Sprint. Once/If they go to a metered plan, I will just ditch them and probably get a prepaid set up.
[Thunderbolt General] buton2:
my wife and i have family plan with unlimited data her 3g i 4g...

we tried yesterday two upgrade her phone and they came up with the crap that we are allowed to upgrade until december 2012

i average 9 gig a month she just 1....

To get new verizon phones when upgrading in december

i will have to go to a limited 10gb family plan and we will be paying $20 more everymonth that we are currently playing....

so in december if we buy new phones around 200 each it will be $400 int total and $20 more per month times 24=480...

so if i we upgrade phones and plans from verizon in december it will cost us a total of $ 880 Dollars....

on the other hand

If i choose to buy our own phone unlocked(amazon, ebay craiglist) paying FULL PRICE it will be the same 880 to 600 dollars .. unless i buy used( which i will not like to)...we will still be unlimited...

so in both ways i am screwed is the same amount of money i will have to expend... verizon is making good bussines...

this is so SAD...
[Thunderbolt General] BuffaloChips:
Have you verified that you can buy a phone elsewhere and keep your unlimited plan? I am wondering about that. And since your wife, like mine, is still on 3g will she be able to upgrade to a 4g phone and keep the unlimited?
[Thunderbolt General] buton2:
thats what i was told by the REP...

if you bring a phone that you bought on ebay, amazon.. we can activate it and you keep your unlimited plan...
[Thunderbolt General] baronmxc:
From Verizon to clarify a few things for you all.

Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so.

When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing.

Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.

The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.

****While current 4G phone owners with unlimited plans will be allowed to live out the duration of their remaining contracts with unlimited data, the next time you (or anyone on your plan, for that matter) upgrade your handset to anything with 4G LTE service, your unlimited goes bye-bye for good.

Source from OP

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ing-if-you-buy-a-4g-phone-this-summer-onward/

Sent from phone.
[Thunderbolt General] CenFlo:
Just tried to upgrade my phone using the upgrade from another line on my account and it wouldn't let me check out without changing my plan.

I have no problem paying full price for a phone as I want to keep my unlimited data plans for all my 5 lines.

FU Verizon, but I'll play along!
[Thunderbolt General] SP1986:
someone post that picture of the cast of star trek tng with all the heads replaced with lt. data that says "UNLIMITED DATA" i need it for a school project/science/bible study tia
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HeCareth:
I was bored so I started looking at some of the earlier blog post on Androidcentral...it was kinda of funny what was making smartphone news back then. Here are just a few blog post that make you think about how far Android has come, and about how some folks got a rude awakening.

ballmer-says-android-wont-make-money

ballmer-says-world-not-ready-cloud-computing

ballmer-android-its-just-version-one

htc-sense-ui-not-coming-current-android-devices-google-branded-phones

le-sigh-htc-france-says-theyll-always-have-more-flagship-products-windows-mobile

android-already-makes-5-percent-us-smartphone-web-traffic-marketshare

analyst-android-outpace-iphone-2012

comscore-may-2010-android-gains-4-points-hits-double-digits

android-edges-out-blackberry-and-iphone-comscore-survey
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarni84:
Wow that dude in the first blog with his tongue out is seriously an ugly mofo...my dude got hit wit a hot bag of **** and nickels....hard really hard in the face.....and boy was ballmer wrong;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Was that English?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarni84:
Yes does it really matter was kidding around was my grammar not good enough for u??? Question.....why are you always a ****. I have not been in this forum for more then two weeks and every time I see u post you are a straight **** to people why??? Live a little my dude no need for always being hostile towards people

Good day sir:) sorry op
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I am not the one calling people names. I am far from hostile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
While I disagree with the person calling you names, which is totally uncalled for, there was no need for your "English" comment as well.

English may not be the persons primary language, but in an international forum such as this, you'll see grammar not being the best for some people.

Truth of the matter is, at least they try. Maybe if you didn't understand him, say so, I sure didn't....

In the same breath, however, your comment was rude, condescending and just as uncalled for.

Really, was there a point to your post?

You could say you are joking all you want, but typed words show no expression.

So in essence you are both wrong, and in fact both a tad childish.

My two cents.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Sorry Dad.

*Trudges off to his room*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
There you go again.

Hmm... Come to think of it, the other posters comments may not have been uncalled for after all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Wow, you try to joke and someone takes it the wrong way.

Lighten up ;)

At any rate, lets take it to PM if you want to discuss it further so the topic doesn't stay off topic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Some great articles. I liked the version 1 article :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iGoogleNexus:
Lol modify your words.. crap like this will probably get you banned

- Google
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HeCareth:
Hahaha, I think the one about cloud computing is priceless....seeing how everyone is trying their best to catch up with Google's cloud offerings, even Apple knows that's where the user pull is at.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
There is no denying that Google has incredible vision.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] danielkuhlman:
I remember google Androids early days, defending the concept and making iPhone users look/feel stupid. Ha ha.

I say Google Android because google didn't always have rights to Android. Without Google, Android would be nothing. I knew there was a reason I signed up for gmail beta back in the day. Haha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I never used Android before 2.0, but I remember when my cousin showed me his G1 and was explaining how awesome it was when there were almost no apps for it yet.

I was on an Omnia at the time, and was extremely jealous...as I tapped at my screen with a damn stylus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WiredPirate:
There I kind of fixed it for you lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I was running WinMo 6/6.5 and thought I was in the future... that sure panned out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WiredPirate:
Lol. Reminds me of my Moto Q.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarni84:
Hahhahaha that was good thanks for the laugh :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] danielkuhlman:
The sweet HTC imagio my girlfriend had for one day until she switched to the OG Droid. It was awful. Ha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgalan14:
I like this post I still remember when I gave up my BB and got me a Samsung moment a month later I was rooted and I couldn't believe how cool it was the damn evo 4G came out and it changed the game with big screen and a kick stand 2 years later I'm on my galaxy nexus and used over 5 android phones and living the OS man Android moved up and gain market share now I can't use a BB cause the thing is too slow integration was great but customization won the game :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Valynor:
Lesson from this: People who are scared by something start talking all kinds of nonsense. :rolleyes::cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
This is awesome
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] se1zure31:
I remember when my brother pre-ordered a g1. At first, I didn't think much of it after having an iPhone. A little later I got my first Android device, the Motorola cliq.

After that I was hooked, but this is my first nexus phone. I feel like it's a completely different experience from the previous 4 android phones I have had.

I was contemplating going back to an iPhone after getting frustrated with my g2x. I am so glad I went galaxy nexus though!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Dang dude. Can we at least get a period at the end of that run on? Lol.

...of the people, by the people, for the people...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] UnusualSuspect:
LOL - yeah, a block of text so dense that no information can escape!

Yeah, I was on WinMo 6.x and using one of the HTC QWERTY sliders when I saw that first ad campaign for - what was it, Motorola Droid on VZW? I was thinking that Android probably wasn't mature enough for my needs yet - but it sure looks, smells and quacks like "the future". I just had a feeling that I'd be using it once it had better support for Outlook & Exchange.

I had an HTC WP7 phone for less than a month - REALLY didn't like it, and returned it to AT&T within my 30-day grace period. I keep hearing how people like the interface, but as far as I'm concerned it's awful!

My son, and then my ex-wife, got Samsung Captivates running Froyo, and I watched them struggle with drivers & what-not for their PCs.

I finally jumped into the Android pool last fall with Gingerbread 2.3.4 on a Galaxy S II, followed by Honeycomb on a Galaxy Tab 10.1. I've since moved to ICS on my yakju GNex and loaded CM9 Alpha 2 on an HP TouchPad that I picked up at the fire sale.

Yup, it's come a long way.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgalan14:
Lol sorry I didn't even check that, here we go . Ha ha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] redshirt72:
The version one post is brutal for MS. At that time Ballmer says that MS has 55 handset makers to Android's 1, and 175 carriers to Android's 1. Nowadays, it seems like WP7(which I actually like) is being made by pretty much just Nokia, Samsung and HTC and Android is being made by pretty much everybody except Apple, Nokia and RIM.

Android is ubiquitous on carriers and WP7...well, isn't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] danielkuhlman:
IM betting that eventually Google will buy RIM. It makes sense, rim uses a more secure kernel than Android. They just lack in putting out decent hardware and software. I might be going out on the limb but...

I give rim five years before someone (Google) scoops them up
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] killyouridols:
I popped into the g1 forum the other day for old times sake; its like a ghost town now, especially considering how hectic it used to be. Saying that, some devs are doing good stuff over there still :)

Oh, and Telnet FTW! :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
I've traded my Omnia for HTC Hero (+ some cash) and that was my first Android powered phone :-) Oh, that was really good day for me.

Ok, back to topic. After reading those articles we can clearly see how wrong and clue-less Ballmer is. And he controls such a huge company as Microsoft...

Now google how many things have predicted Bill Gates (file sharing, video conversations, social networks and so on). That was the man.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Bill gates also supports genetically modified crops. Not very manly if you ask me.

...of the people, by the people, for the people...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Trying to create odorless weed?

I <3 BIll Gates.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Ha. No. The kind that are ruining ecosystems, economies, health and just plain good old fashioned fresh food.

...of the people, by the people, for the people...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HeCareth:
The funny thing is that Apple never enjoyed being the top OS in regards to marketshare. As soon as they though they were going to take over RIM, here comes Android who just sucked up all of RIMS marketshare like a vacuum.

They will always be number 2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Lol. Number 2.

...of the people, by the people, for the people...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] danielkuhlman:
I remember rooting my OG Droid. It took me like three hours since it was all completely new. Kind of cute when I look back on it. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] asb123:
ahaha YES. I had the HTC Dream (G1). oh boy, android 1.5 sucked compared to what we have now. I actually still use it for when I go out clubbing. I have super D android 1.6 on it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iDaZzLeFatHoeZz:
I am going to have to step in and say that this rebuttal is not required, but I will have to agree greeced because he brings up valid points. It isn't necessary to patronize someone due to their choice and style of grammar. The fact that you find this as a means to make rude comments, makes you seem ignorant, so please try to refrain from this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eaglesport:
Haha on my first root of the Droid inedible, it was so new to me and I feared something would go wrong and brick the phone, but after success,I will never go back to stock. Rooting fulfills the Android experience and makes complete use of the phone's aspects.

Swyped from my AOKP Galaxy Nexus running Franco 160
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Did you really bring this back to the surface?

Lets stay on topic and not go there again. Bury it in a dark hole and forget it was ever there.