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[Networking] ATHORNFAM2:
If that happens I'm switching to sprint they are going to have LTE in my area by the end if 2012
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
I will switch back to AT&T if this happens
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
BUMP
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-cfo-fran-shammo-bring-back-the-unlimited-data-plan
[Networking] sitizenx:
If at&t does this I will drop them. Unlimited LTE data is why I stick with them. Even then $65 a month for the lowest talk plan, unlimited LTE data, and only 200 regular text messages is stiff. You eliminate that unlimited data and switch me to 3gb for $30 and there is no point continuing.
[Networking] ATHORNFAM2:
Signed thanks
[Networking] ATHORNFAM2:
I spend 170 on my plan which is crazy and my moms side of the family spent 250 on 4 phones a month
[Networking] noesilva:
I've got 5 lines with them they take my unlimited Im gone
[Networking] Primevyl:
Five lines four with smartphones on unlimited. My bill is 305...if my unlimited is taken, I will cancel them all. Go to Sprint, or to flip phones

but never Verizon again

»»Rezound running BusinessICS 2.3 by Nils««
[Networking] djsiva:
At least in my area, I'll still call them the best as far as service and coverage are concerned. However, if this axes my grandfathered in 4G unlimited data, I will seriously consider some other carriers even though they all pale in comparison for speed and reliability. Sucks... :(
[Networking] ronartest2005:
Just talked to a "top tier" CSR.

She told me that nothing has changed with unlimited data, she said as long as you have it you GET TO KEEP IT.

She did say that they will be trying to get people with family share plans to go to "tiered data sharing plans" when they are launched this summer.

But she told me at least 5 times that while verizon would prefer that people switch to tiered plans, that if you are grandfathered you do get to keep your data plan.
[Networking] Primevyl:
Sweet. I hope this is true.

»»Rezound running BusinessICS 2.3 by Nils««
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
bump
[Networking] sitizenx:
My understanding is if you are ON CONTRACT there will be no change, but once your contract is done they mean to FORCE you onto some other plan. Am I correct?
[Networking] ronartest2005:
From what she told me, regardless of contract standing if you are grandfathered in you will not lose it.

She was vague though about family plans...The big thing seems to be if you are on a plan that has 2 or more lines with unlimited data that may be the thing they try to "push" you into a capped data plan. But she had no info on how much data the family share plans would have...

THIS IS MY OPINION, But I would figure that it would be like this;

2-lines get 3gb each=6gb shared data per mo ($50)

3-lines get 4gb ea=8gb shared data per mo ($80)

4-lines get 5.5 ea=22gb shared data per mo ($100)

But honestly, last month and I used my 4g HEAVY I barely went over 4gbs...I was at 4.07gbs.

I think they are trying to kick off the people who use thier phones to download torrents or use their phones to play COD online using their 360s/ps3's.

I have a neighbor who has unlimited data and he told me he uses 28gbs a mo!
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
Why do people keep starting new threads when we already have one ?
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
Update from Mobile burn it may not be that bad

http://www.mobileburn.com/19622/new...pcoming-policy-change-on-unlimited-data-plans
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/05/data-pricing.html
[Networking] 4ktvs:
I am sick of some of you guy's that say you are on the unlimited plan and some how you just use 10mb over it EVERY month and clam that becuase of a guy using 5,10,20 GB a month you are going to lose it. No it's becuase they know they can mlik all you verizon fan's for every thing and even for your use this will suck and only the guy's like my dad who use less than a 1GB are going to like this. I would not go over 4-5gb ever if my home internet did not SUCK so much. ( Crap you 60% loss and having to reboot cable modem that now gives me less than 50% of what I am paying for.)

I am going to war with TWC again to get them to fix this again. ( No I don't need the 30mbs I was geting for about a week, but I would like to get more than 5 when I pay for 10.)

They are trying to kick every one off becuase they want every one going over on there data and paying 10$ a 1GB or more if they think they can get away with it.

I will not stay with them if they do this, becuase of all the issue's I had with them and now this. That would more then do it in for me.

If you want to know what issues I had look at the old razr video in my sig.
[Networking] 4ktvs:
Thats not good news at all. If you are not in a 2 year agreement then they can put you on the limited plan any way. This sucks as much as I feared. Now as long as I can hold on to my unlimited data plan from AT&T then I am still on the unlimited train.

Now both 3g and 4g users are DOOMED to 2gb plan's. Verizon I will be gone for ever on 12/5/13 if you don't let me keep my unlimited and I will use over 300GB in the last month before I go. ( Eat that you greedy pigs)
[Networking] ronartest2005:
I don't think anyone who uses a large amount of data is the reason why verizon are being pricks about the unlimited data. I think they are being that way because they are greedy. They do provide the best mobile service I have ever had. Although I have only used verizon,at&t and sprint.

But they had better hope that sprint fails with their 3g upgrades and lte rollout. Because if sprint does good and keeps unlimited data, verizon could end the next fews years like sprint has spent the past few years.

The whole thing that ALWAYS pissed me off about verizon was they would always have their commericials with people using skype video chat/streaming movies...etc...all data hogs on their LTE network. But they never say "if you try to do any of the things we show for more than 10mins a day you will burn through your 2gb plan by the end of your first week"

They wait until after you have the phone then send you weekly emails about "how to use wifi on your phone".
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
I have a feeling that this will push the prices of phones up on the secondary market
[Networking] 4ktvs:
I wish I could say the same about verizon's service, but that just makes this easer when I drop them for not leting me keep unlimited.

That all way's pissed me off to that they show all this HD video over 4g and high data use like that and then act and tell you doing all that crap won't make you go over 2/3/4GB intill after your 14/30 days. I think we should use this to help our case. I think I may be going to sprint at some point if AT&T kills my unlimited data too. ( I may do it before then if I like a phone they have or they cost less and still are good for me.)

Verizon will be #4 pick for smartphones if they do this in my book. ( For just phones they are still very good, but now more than 50% of the US has smartphones so yea.)
[Networking] ronartest2005:
Yep, thats the thing "Hey look at all of the awesome stuff you *could* do with your phone over 4g"

But don't think about doing it over 4g, you had better find a good wifi connection.

Its all very smug...."Ahh, you want to take to twitter and other outlets and cry about us taking away your grandfathered data that you got from paying us your hard earned money for years"..."Well you can keep your unlimited data, but if you want a new phone you will pay FULL price, regardless of if its tomorrow or 10 years from now....enjoy your unlimited data"
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
ttttt
[Networking] Primevyl:
Well said

»»Rezound running BusinessICS 2.3 by Nils««
[Networking] 4ktvs:
They so don't need to do this, becuase they just about allways make money and if they lose a dime, it's becuase of the high cost of the iphone and now they want US to pay for that BS. How about this verizon, make the iphone users pay more a month for the big sub if you really need more $. ( They don't by the way, but at lest the users costing them the most would be paying for geting the iphone at $200 with them paying at lest $360 of it.)

And I think they will quickly take the buying the phone at full away too after that. ( I give it a year at most and thats when my 2 year ends so I won't be able to do this likely any way.)

We may win, but this will be harder to win for sure. We should make a case to the FCC that this is BS for LTE users and that there is no need for this.
[Networking] cell128:
Official word from verizon:

" When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones."

So what is the best 4g phone that we can but right now? I'm stick between the galaxy nexus and htc rezound. I wish galaxy s3 would launch before these new plans go into affect but I really don't want to take my chances
[Networking] 4ktvs:
I would have to say they both suck, but the nexus is not so bad. ( I had one rez DIE in my hands in the store, one get stuck in a boot loop in a store, one that droped data and gave slow as mess speeds and then two that were just dead.)

I was thinking about geting a rez, but after ALL that, they suck. Maybe you should get one so that they will have to give you a free S3 after having 4-5 die on you.

P.S Sorry to any one that has that HTC phone, but thats all I have seen from that phone, I have not found one yet that works right, but have seen them on you tube working right. ( I was looking at the nexus and the HTC, becuase of the issues I had with my razr to see if it was the phone or network.)

Edit: Look at this and tell me they need to do this: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=VZ and This: http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/01/pr2012-01-24.html
[Networking] sitizenx:
Gee thanks. So I can pay $500 for a phone AND get ass raped on a contract? Gee who would turn down that opportunity.
[Networking] MissionImprobable:
Do you have to have the newest phone as soon as it comes out? Simply wait a bit and the new in-box price will drop to a reasonable level. On top of that there are always Amazon, Ebay, and Craigslist. Buying a phone a full price keeps them from losing money out front and saves you money in the long run by keeping your unlimited data instead of having to pay for overages or higher rates on a tiered plan.
[Networking] I Am Marino:
Does us all this allow us to break contract?

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[Networking] Primevyl:
Nope

»»Rezound running BusinessICS 2.3 by Nils««
[Networking] sitizenx:
"Simply wait a bit" is a nebulous statement. How long is "a bit?" If the phone is a really good hot selling phone like the Lumia 900 even after a year it will sell for HUNDREDS of dollars. One of the main arguments for having a contract is getting the latest hardware for free. You take that $500 reason away and contracts begin to start looking shaky for a lot of people.

I don't see how spending hundreds of dollars more than I am spending now on my expensive contract "saves me money."

How about this. How about they leave everything as is and they keep making billions of dollars a year. Sounds fair doesn't it? Or can people not live on billions of dollars a year?
[Networking] MissionImprobable:
It saves you money because if you use more than 2GB/month then you'd need to move up to the $50/month plan. That's $480 more than you pay on unlimited over two years, so as long as you're not paying $500 for your new phone you're good. The carrier's happy, you're happy. If you use less than 2GB per month, then you will save by getting your phone on subsidy. Carrier makes their money back, you get your phone for less cash up front. Carriers are in it to make money as they've blatantly put on display here lately, so it is what it is.

How long is a bit? However long it takes for the device you want to be at a reasonable price. If worse comes to worst when my upgrade comes I may get a Rezound, a pretty good device from what I know with tons of development that is seeing timely updates. Woe is me, right? Is your life going to end because you can't get the newest device the day it rolls out? Even when new devices drop I still wait until they run a good deal. We got our Droid 2s for free only a few months after they came out. In the future, maybe we'll have to pay a few hundred a piece for new devices. I think I'll live.

You mentioned the Lumia 900. It's an AT&T phone. They don't even offer unlimited anymore, so people buying devices from them are already experiencing this. If VZ ever does get the Lumia it will likely already be less, and worse case you wait to get it. Life is hard, isn't it? Not sure why you're using it as a discussion point as this is about Verizon, but whateva's cleva.
[Networking] 4ktvs:
They do if you have the plan from before it ended or if you buy a unlocked non AT&T branded phone. Verizon's has even lower than AT&T with this kind of BS and there phones SUCK. At the rate they are removing unlimited data we won't be able to keep it at all. last year they took it away from new users and now at the same time this year even old time 10+ year vet's are being torn away and they now will have to pay FULL retail for a boged down POS. I am going to keep my unlimited line with AT&T and kill this one if they are hard headed about this like I know they will be.

P.S Side note: I am not a big fan of the 900, but for free it's not bad and likely the best deal on AT&T. Even if AT&T killed my unlimited, at lest I would not have to put up with crap phones and sprint still has it if I needed badly or I could go back to pre-paid with no data.( I did this for some time and can do it again if need be.)
[Networking] MissionImprobable:
Well, on the phone front, you and I are not the only ones who would likely jump ship if they took away unlimited. Better phones, and with the new Nexus devices on the horizon likely great unlocked GSM world phones. VZ needs to tiptoe very carefully and bring out some worthwhile devices.
[Networking] nerdydesi:
No, because Verizon will not take away your unlimited data in the middle of a contract. If they did, then you may be able to get the ETF waived. Its only if your contract expires after this summer and you want to renew that you must choose from a tiered plan. And even then, you can continue to buy phones off-contract to keep unlimited data. IMO, its not that bad.

I just hope they don't institute throttling after a certain limit like ATT and T-Mobile do on their "unlimited" data plans.
[Networking] Primevyl:
AT&T and Sprint kinda have to throttle...Verizon is light years ahead of them in network speed and fidelity

»»Rezound running BusinessICS 2.3 by Nils««
[Networking] sitizenx:
That's not "saving me money." If they leave everything as is I am paying less. They eliminate unlimited or start charging $500 for a phone I lose.

I'm on at&t with a Lumia 900 with unlimited data.
[Networking] MissionImprobable:
So you have phones on both networks? Yeah, if you want to keep your unlimited with Verizon you're going to have to fork over five or so c-notes, or you'll have to wait for the phone you want to drop in price. Odds are that AT&T will move to this same approach if it works out for VZ as the carriers seem to be copying each other quite a bit lately when it comes to sticking it to customers. Maybe someone will invent a inexpensive mobile system and roll out a new carrier to save us all one day =p
[Networking] 4ktvs:
I have a phone on both networks as well on unlimited data. I have the verizon phone for when my home internet dies and I am liking LTE. I have had AT&T for longer and do like the way faster 3G speeds. Were I live sprints 3g=verizon 3g most of the time. AT&T's 3G some times get's better DL speeds then verizon's LTE too, but will never have the low ping of LTE. (100-150 ping on 3Gatt vs 50-70 ping on verizon LTE)

I know a guy who works for verizon and he may be able to give me some "used" phones. I may do that, but really if you are off contract then they will tell you one day, that new need to be on the 2GB plan.
[Networking] ATHORNFAM2:
This sounds a lot better just go to eBay or craigslist guys
[Networking] 4ktvs:
Light years in the dark ages that is

Oh really?

The "best" speed I have goten in the last 30 days on LTE was 10mbs at 1am!

now my avg speed is 3-5mbs. I get that on my bleeping H+ AT&T phone and then the every day loss of connetion BS. And now I can't usb tether with the stock tethering setings. It won't tell me that the issue is, it just does not work. no code to look up or any thing, but any way's. back to there "BEST NETWORK EVER FOR EVER BS". I have even had 3g issues all over the place and if you want a video I can link you one and show a 2nd phone with the same issue and THEN GO INTO THE STORE WITH a BUNCH OF DATA droping phones.

Light years? really may be in there HQ, but in the NC state area they are really sucking both in speed and % time working. I won't even talk about the map or how they use booters in all there stores.

I was going to keep my line for as long as I could, but I have had it. First they sell me a bad phone, then they drag it out for weeks and 10 call's to replace it and then it still has issues and then they made me report them to the FCC and BBB, just to push a update a few days later that fix's it for the most part, but I still can't use the phone as much as I would like or my issues would come back. Now they have come back after removing a 3rd party app and using 3.998GB of data. So there CS is good for the first 14/30 days and then they could care less. There phone's suck with all the pre-installed crap and the network sucks more then AT&T's 3G.

Edit: 600th post
[Networking] Primevyl:
A)

Sounds like you're dealing with an authorized dealer. They sell refurbished phones as new phones, thus you inherit the haunted cells

B)

I don't drop calls. In the past six years my 3g failed me once...our forty five minutes...my 4g forgetaboutit...always on never slower than 9 Mbs....so I guess I'm sorry you live in NC where there seem to be plenty of resellers (see A)...but in dirty Louisiana...40 miles away from New Orleans...VZ's greedy ass is the best

»Rezound on Nils' BusinessICS 2.3mg 'roids«
[Networking] 4ktvs:
Nope it was NOT a authorized dealer that I walked in to. I did buy the phone from one, but the razr had only been out for a few weeks when I got it and yes I have a refurb, BECUASE THATS ALL THEY WILL GIVE YOU TO REPLACE YOURS with. The best I can sell it for seems to be about 200. I may as well take my gun and shoot it for that and upload the video on youtube.( No I won't shoot it, but some times I really want to.)

Link to 3G failing me days after I got the "new" one that they say works fine and that there network can't take it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_KUvYzJAP0&feature=channel&list=UL

Were I work there is a verizon store 100% cop, not dealer right next to my building and there phones drop 4g all over the place too. (RAZRs)

Verizon is juck, the only thing they had was "save" unlimited data going for them and making phone calls in the sticks. I have droped 2 calls with verizon and one with AT&T so I really don't see how every one thinks they are so good for, but any way.

I will stay with them, but only becuase I fixed tethering and can tep "hot wire" it to "good" speeds. I can't really use it as a smart phone, but I will sure as crap use it as home internet for as long as I can.

P.S I am glad you and most I have seen have had better luck with them, but not me.

Video: [YOUTUBE]TSKMhrV12hE[/YOUTUBE]
[Networking] Primevyl:
Does anyone you know have a different manufacturer model?

»Rezound on Nils' BusinessICS 2.3mg 'roids«
[Networking] 4ktvs:
Not thats on verizon's 4G network. I know one guy with a 4G LTE phone and it's a razr. I told him some of the issues I have with mine, but he works for them and it cost him next to zip, so he got one.

Any way, Yes it's likely a phone issue, but verizon are insiting that they need a crap load of there "tickets". Just to tell me they don't know.

What kind of CS is that? I never seen a co that try's so hard not to replace there POS. Even acer, and there on my small black list, was more willing to replace there crap. I should make a video every time I have an issue with this and mail copys to there HQ. Intill they get so sick of it they do something.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eav1026:
Hi All,

I installed the AT&T RUU_Evita_UL_Cingular_US-1.82.502 and the phone was working perfectly, then I tried to replace the two files for the Advanced Power Menu mod into the Framework folder as the install directions say. After the reboot, the phone gets stuck on the white HTC ONE TM screen. I then rebooted into the recovery screen by pressing the power and Vol down key and did a factory reset and I still get stuck on the same screen after the reboot. Any way I can reinstall the AT&T RUU_Evita_UL_Cingular_US-1.82.502 or get out of this Bootloop? Thanks in advance
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] niceppl:
download the ruu and htc sync and ...reflash
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eav1026:
How do I do this, HTC Sync does not pick up the phone and since I do not have CWM how to I flash the RUU from this state. I saw that you previously said to another member about ARUWIzard, will this work for me?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] niceppl:
since you are on att therefore you dont need that.

download the ruu from this post.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1644338

and run it with htc sync installed.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eav1026:
Got it to reflash the RUU. Thanks for your help. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vamsimohan_6:
I have a rooted att htc one x with the asia 1.77 rom. I have been using whats app and noticed that I don't get notification of messages recieved till I unlock the phone.

Anyone with a similar issue or idea of change in settings

PS: I have juice defender ultimate in my phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
Don't have this problem. Must have already sent over 1000 messages on whatsapp. Push notification is perfect.

Do you have wifi on? Leave it off. It causes me to miss notifications because it stops working (while phone thinks it is).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Yze:
I had this same problem and this is how you fix it:

Go to Settings - Power. UNCHECK Fast boot.

This will fix it so that you still get notifications with your screen locked.

However, if you use Task Manager and clear everything, your push notifications will not come through until the app has been launched.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] aob:
This is brilliant, thanks so much for this. It appears to fix Google Voice for any other users that weren't getting notifications from it.
[HTC One X] phegard:
Hi guys!

I'm wondering it is possible to disable "text reflow" option at stock browser.

I've been watching some HOX(and HOS) "web browsing" review videos, and I found "text reflow" makes it more stutter & jitter.

So there are 2 questions.

1. Is there a on/off option to toggle "Text Reflow" function?(At Stock Browser)

2. If it can be, then can I control reflow by "double clicking"?(Like vanilla ICS broswer)
[HTC One X] meric.:
Yeah, I like to know that too...

edit:

Apparently there's indeed an option in the browser to turn this off:

"The blinking is caused by "text reflow." Turn it off in the browser options and it works smoothly and perfectly. Turn it off in: advance > auto fit﻿ pages."
[HTC One X] phegard:
Thanks! So it can be turned off :)

What about Question 2?
[HTC One X] solidair:
Ok the best way I've found to stop the text reflow is as follows:

type about:debug into browser address bar dont worry nothing happens

now go into menu

then go into settings

then goto debug

then un tick enable OpenGL Renderig

go back to broswer

no text reflow excepty on double tap.

done

dave