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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] [XIX]Secutor:
XXLPY kernel (even the CF-root version) is affected by superbrick bug, so I	think is safer to use a gb one for flash.

Another time, remember that both franco's and speedmod kernel SHOULD be safe because they have the "emmc erase" command disabled, which is PROBABLY what cause bricks in stock and cf-root ones (in which that command is enabled); however, there's not yet evidence that this workaround can certainly avoid superbrick issues but for now, there's also no one brick reporting for these kernels.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Anyways is fine. CWM when on CM9 or any CM9 based rom is perfectly safe. So you can use it to go back to gb or if flashing stock then the best is to PC Odin.:)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] oscarsalgar:
Thanks for this thread!

I have a question: did a full wipe in stock recovery (LPY) and my phone is working fine but i don't know if the bug has already been triggered. Would you recommend to go back to GB, or am I stucked in LPY forever?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Well most of the superbrick cases that happened and the ones i have mentioned in the OP are due to the wiping when being on the LPY kernel. Wiping damages the MMC and hence there are high chances of you being stuck in the PC Odin and then bricking your device. Be on it and use your phone till the time some safe replacement kernel is not released. If you are really the adventurous type then you can go ahead with the PC Odin or can even try the steps given in the Q5 in OP.

Cheers!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] oscarsalgar:
Well, i don't feel that adventurous. I prefer to live with the poor battery life, the annoying wakelocks an the overheating. A least until some safe solution appears. Thanks a lot for your answer!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] evildrag:
noob question

hi..im very fan of samsung i own a galaxy note with ics last relase...i didnt read till today the kernel issue, i want to go back to GB 2.3.6 but my binay count its 3... so my question is... does my phone have a limit of binary count till block itself or something like this? i dnt wanna brick my phone by exceding flash count...thank you
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
No limit of binary count as far as i know around. And you can check the Q11 if you want to jump off from the unsafe kernels!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
kernel and rom relationship?

Hi abhi!! Thx for such an awesome post... being a newbie flasher, I still am unclear about relationship between kernel and ROM... and I just bricked my stock ICS Galaxy Note due to data wipe in CWM.. should have read this post earlier. Luckily Samsung gave me a new motherboard, so it's working on stock ICS now (DXLP9 - Indonesia), and I want to be more careful this time.

I have a few questions:

(1) When we flash a GB kernel, as you said, does the kernel work with the ICS ROM i currently have? Or must I flash a GB ROM also?

(2) If I flash a stock GB rom (e.g. one from Dr Ketan), does it automatically flash a new kernel with it?

So just to confirm again, if I run ICS Stock DXLP5 , or DXLPY, what i must do to upgrade to safe custom ICS Rom are:

(1) Root - by Dr Ketan's method

(2) Flash a new kernel or a new ROM altogether

(3) Root it again (or flash a pre-rooted ROM on step 2)

(4) Flash the new ICS ROM

Thanks plenty! (literally)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
And to confirm your last query if you are on any of the Stock ICS Kernels and if you haven't wiped your phone once then you can PC Odin back to GB (or a pre rooted GB rom). Then check your root and then flash any of the custom safe ICS rom.

Hope this helps :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
Thanks, Abhi! I managed to flash Liquid Smooth ROM v2 to my official ICS Galaxy Note, and to put it plainly in laymen terms, what I did was:

(1) Download the directly rootable GB ROM for N7000 from Dr Ketan's thread.

(2) Flash it directly to my phone using Odin. No rooting required.

(3) Once the phone run on GB, I rooted it and add CWM using Dr Ketan's method. (zergrush)

(4) Download the Liquid Smooth ROM v1 and v2, put it into phone's internal SD

(5) Run the ROM's zip from CWM recovery (follow instruction on Liquid Smooth's XDA thread) ...

One question, why is it that when flashing stock ROM (like official samsung GB ROM), we can do it through ODIN without root, but when flashing custom ROM, like Liquid Smooth, we need to do it through CWM on a rooted phone? Can we flash custom ROM through ODIN also?

Thanks a bunch!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Stock and custom Roms are packed in completely different formats: stock ones consist mostly of img files, while custom Roms are flashable zips which cannot be flashed via Odin. Hence PCO is used for stock Roms, and CWMR for custom ones.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
Hi Chasmodo! Thanks for the reply. While you are on it, now that I am in Liquid Smooth v2, say I want to try out Asylum, which attractive due to its "leanness", how should I go about doing it? Can I simply download the zip file for ROM and GAPPS and flash those from CWM?

I think Liquid Smooth v2 is based on Franco Kernel. Asylum zip file already contains the necessary kernel right?

(I am trying to understand and make sense of all the procedures, rather than blindly following them.. thanks for all advices!)

Thanks a bunch!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] senectus:
so.. just to clarify...

if I'm currently on Stock ROM but speedmod Kernel (but rooted) N7000DXLP9, should i be ok to put the stock GB ROM on the SD and downgrade using Mobile Odin Pro and keep root (via everoot or whatever mechanism that MOP uses)?

Thinking of going to the Paranoid Hybrid ROM...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
I read somewhere that it is safer to flash from PC Odin, rather than Mobile Odin. The process using PC Odin is very fast and straightforward.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
While on the topic of switching ROMs, I would like to keep all my applications intact when I use the new ROM. I already have the Titanium Backup Pro, but have never really used it. Can I use it to perform a full Titanium backup, store the backup on my external SD, and then restore all my apps from the backup file once I am on my new ROM?

Thanks a bunch!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
There's no simple way for you to switch to Asylum, because the two Roms have different bases.

You should Odin back to GB, root it, then flash Asylum according to the instructions posted in the OP of the Asylum thread.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Yes, of course you can. TB will not only restore your apps, but their data as well.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
Hi Chasmodo, thanks for your quick reply. Please bear with me, but could you please explain briefly why I can't directly flash the asylum. I thought only the kernel and ROM matter. If the Asylum ROM already has the ROM and kernel, which part of the original GB stock ROM is required?

And when you say that Liquid Smooth and Asylum ROM have different basis, what do you exactly mean as "basis" ?

Thanks a lot!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
It means that Liquid and Asylum are fundamentally different, Liquid is based on Chinese repack, and Asylum is pure and safe CM9 base. You might brick your phone if you try a direct flash. You need GB as a cleansing step, sort of a stepping stone to Asylum.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] oiwnos:
what you mean is the user apps to be saved etc...

titanium offers 2 main options... backup the user apps and back up also the system apps..

you wouldn't want system settings to be dragged from one rom to the other but you can backup and recover everything....(leave the folder titanium where it is if you don't format the phone, or copy it and place it back if you do)

if you use for example k9 or droidmail for your emails... with the backup your accounts and settings will be wainting for you ... not just the app..

the only let down is that if you don't BUY titanium (one of the few programs that REALLY deserves it's money) in the recovery you will have to confirm each program for installation.... if you have the "donate" version.. you just watch it cound from 0 to 100 and your phone is back...

imagine that i have the same folder system in Go launcher.. the programs ,and saved games from galaxy s1 to s plus to s2 to Note.... always recovering from titanium..

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for the main theme of the post...

i have followed these instructions

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43609376/Steps for a Rooted GB/Steps .txt

and these files...http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43609376/Steps for a Rooted GB/Steps for a safe rooted rom.exe

to safely install ics go back to gb etc for 3 galaxy notes for more than 15 times....

i do say that you need to settle down... but if you try something follow some safety rules...

these are the files you will need in a rar
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
Chasmodo, a few more questuons.. Please bear with me.

1) since paranoid and asylum is based on cm9, so if I want to switch from asylum to paranoid I can directly flash the paranoid rom in cwm?

2) I am currently at Liquid Smooth. Assuming right now I do an nandroid backup on my system, change to asylum through the GB step.. And then decide that asylum is not right for me.. Can I restore my nandroid backup to go back to liquid Smooth, along with all my apps and data intact, just like the moment i do the nandroid backup?

Thanks a lot!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
See the answers above in bold text :)

Hope this helps!! Cheers!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
COOL! Thanks a lot, Abhi, and everyone!

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The thing with Liquid Smooth is, it's really smooth. Screen transition is very smooth, even though still slightly jaggy compared to iPhone or Ipad. So I really like Liquid Smooth. Problem is, my Kindle app won't run on it, I don't know why, and Kindle app is really important for me 'coz I read a lot. So I wanna try Asylum or Paranoid.

Cheers!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antonius0809:
Have finally tried Asylum. Really like it. For some reason it feels smoother than liquid Smooth, but I turned off dithering and turn on 16 bit transparency. I kinda miss the ring tone collection, but I can easily find custom ones. And best thing is my Kindle works. Awesome! Just be careful about changing LCD density with ROM toolbox. It'll cause an issue with Google Play. Easier to simply crank up font size in settings.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Yep, Asylum rocks. Anti for president. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Barracuda77777:
I just changed over from official LPF to CM9

I did the following:

Used mobile Odin to flash abyse 4.2 red pill

Restored my backup of CM9 that I made before I flashed LPF.

Everything went smooth. I have yet to read anywhere that someone bricked using mobile Odin.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] toxicthunder:
Criskelo would suit you. Criskelo on Speedmod is so smooth you're homescreens will go into an infinite loop with one swipe :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] toxicthunder:
Aah...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ilordvader:
Galaxy Note N7000 – Steps to Install Official XXLQ2 ICS 4.0.3 Firmware

To Install go to page 2 - Link on bottom of the page
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] trell959:
So, if I'm on LQ2 and want to get over to CM9, can't I just flash abyss, reboot recovery, then full wipe and flash CM9? Or is LQ2 safe?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Yeah that will do. :)

About LQ2 being safe it has to be checked whether the MMC erase command is being issued by the kernels in this version as till now all the stock kernel have this command active. Hence there are cases of bricks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] trell959:
Thanks. Worked like a charm!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hieupham:
Thank you for the super helpful post! :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
superbrick/hardbrick ICS debacle

Hi everyone.

Im a newbie so feel free to blast me if I'm stating the obvious re: ICS bricking but here's my take on the info I've read:-

GB to GB - foolproof :D

GB to to CM9 - PARANOIDANDROID Asylum etc. Sweet as :)

GB or CM9 etc. to Samsung ICS - No problem but don't do any wiping in recovery and maybe don't delete large files.:o

ICS to GB -OK, but use odin (only if you haven't done any wiping in recovery);)

ICS with wiping done in recovery mode to GB via Odin - possible blue light special :confused:

ICS to CM9 etc - Go back to GB first (If u haven't wiped in ICS) :(

ICS to anything via CWM touch Recovery - Dangerous :mad:

ICS with recovery wiping done to ICS or CM9 etc via CWM touch Recovery - INSTANT SUPERBRICK/HARDBRICK!!! :eek:

Am I getting it?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Yeah nice pointers mate!!

Some additions the wiping bug is present in the Stock ICS kernels. And not only wiping in recovery is buggy even doing a factory reset can trigger damage of MMC chip.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] trell959:
There are ways around going to GB, Like flashing abyss. That's what I do just to save time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Yeah that is a nice way (even long back tested and confirmed it to be the sure shot way) but should only be used when you know what you are doing. Because it involves flashing in the risky ICS recovery. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhi85s:
Which method should I use? I am on stock LPY (German), no root, no cache wipe, no reset. Should I go about flashing an entire GB ROM or just a rooted GB kernel which is safe? Please help.

Or can I flash DAFUQ kernel and proceed normally?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Mate the best is to go to GB is via PC odin since you have stated that you haven't done any wipes. Just flash a stock GB rom...root it and then you can flash any of the safe CM9 based rom (if you want ICS) using the install instructions given in the OP of that rom thread. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
superbrick/hardbrick ICS debacle

"the wiping bug is present in the Stock ICS kernels. And not only wiping in recovery is buggy even doing a factory reset can trigger damage of MMC chip."

Thanks for that abhisahara:)

What stock ICS ROM would you suggest using in conjunction with speedmod kernel K3-3 (yellow triangle and all) to potentially avoid bricking scenario?

Apparently has MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled, which should prevent the "hard brick" bug.

Sent from SGN N7000 CM9 nightly 5/6/12
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Well in both Speedmod and Franco the Erase command is disabled so that kernel is safe in the stock roms. I cant suggest any one as i haven't used stock ICS at any point nor m going to :) M on Asylum rom which is CM9 based and hence is safe !!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
Well I'm having a crack at TheMIDTeam 1.4.2 With franco kernel 3.0.15 (can't help myself). Anything from XDA can't be bad can it?:) Still won't wipe in recovery or do factory reset though;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] lesp4ul:
Damn, my phone died after wiping ICS data via CWM... any solution? :(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
Hmmm... sounds like superbrick scenario. You had better start doing some serious searching in the forums from the experts (and there's plenty!). Otherwise take your phone back and come up with some B/S like "Charged it overnight and it couldn't start it again in the morning" or "Upgraded to ICS via Kies and it died after factory reset"

Sorry I can't be more helpful mate, but I'm only a beginner. (Only just got my SGN 2 weeks ago and flashing new roms every day. Not from ICS tho)

I mean I have flashed from ICS but always going back to pre-rooted GB ROM via PC Odin first.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Try if this works mate - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26285877&postcount=12

Sorry to hear about your phone :(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SpyderTracks:
Sorry to hear that, mate, i hope you can get it recovered.

please hit thanks if i helped
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] skivnit:
hi guys i'm on gb 2.3.6 with xxl4a baseband but i wanna update to aokp and paranoid rom how can i do that?my bb is not rirectly rootable and i wanna flash a safe kernel. Help plz
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Mate you are already on a safe kernel :) anyways if you want to get to paranoid rom then you will have to downgrade to a directly rootable rom using PC odin and then root it and then install the paranoid rom wiping everything!

you will have all details here mate - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1424997

Same thing is listed in my OP also !! Guess you haven't read that :) Please do read first as its more beneficial then directly asking a question!

Cheers!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Yeah, take it to the nearest service center for a MoBo replacement.

And the universal solution for avoiding bricks is reading before doing dangerous stuff, but it's too late for you now.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dadme:
Safe method to get LQ2 starting from CheckROM Note HD v6, please?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
There is one. First, you download the LQ2, then you flash it using PC Odin.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] skivnit:
i did read but it is so confusing to me :) i just rooted my s3with a toolkit its noob and lazy proof ;)

thanks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Yeah mate...but not all devices are same. Some require workarounds....so had to get on with them :)

u can even choose a directly rootable rom and flash it via PC odin. Link of that in my OP. Pre rooted stock roms.

(PS - If you are using the Prerooted Stock Roms from the above link then after PC ODIN flash of the stock rom of your choice just download the corresponding CF Root Kernel (i.e. if you flashed LC1 Rom, download LC1 CF-Root kernel) and flash it through Mobile Odin to inject CWMR. Done.)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] skivnit:
i'm actually flashing the xxkl3 its a non wipe version so after that i should just root it then wipe and flash the paranoid?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Exactly :-) flash in the CWM recovery!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
*Bump*

Updated the OP with another red coded warning!! People please read before attempting any of the red coded methods otherwise you will end up having a shiny new paperweight!!

Thanks!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
A bit more summing up.....

Do NOT FLASH FROM or do WIPE ON from kernel where eMMC_CAP_ ERASE is NOT disabled:eek:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Yeah mate...but for average Joe its not possible to check the MMC_CAP_ERASE command!! So better is - dont use the wipe or factory reset in Stock ICS Samsung Roms/Kernels.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ilordvader:
Please Help

How to do a samsung note factory reset after ICS update

cos after ICS update it doesnt show option if we want to clean just phone or 16gb card also

Need to Full Clean my phone before Selling

Thanks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shutterdogz:
very informative. good thing that i read all the necessary info before I flashed anything on my note.

just wanted to check, does the new franco kernel r6 ok with stock ICS rom? or speedmod kernel is ok? basically i just want a kernel that can do overclocking. i just rooted my note using cf-root, and i'm still running on all stock. based from I the forums here, you cannot do an overclock (tegrak) on a stock kernel. I had attached my phone settings. I want to run my note in stock rom, i just want to change the kernel that can do an OC

thank you :cowboy:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
just wanted to check, does the new franco kernel r6 ok with stock ICS rom? or speedmod kernel is ok? basically i just want a kernel that can do overclocking. i just rooted my note using cf-root, and i'm still running on all stock. based from I the forums here, you cannot do an overclock (tegrak) on a stock kernel. I had attached my phone settings. I want to run my note in stock rom, i just want to change the kernel that can do an OC

thank you :cowboy:

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OK to overclock? Not sure. OK to do wipes on or flash from? Should be safe as houses, seeing as MMC_CAP_ERASE is disabled on both kernels (allegedly)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Well dont factory rest or clean when on stock official ICS. (even if you are selling)

Flash GB rom via PC odin and then sell. Tell the person whom you are selling that dont update to ICS as of now as there is a fatal bug in official ICS. Once its fixed he can update that.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abhisahara:
Overclock will only result in slight increase in speed but high battery drain. Also AFAIK you wont be able to overclock. Will have to check more into the kernels as i have never used any of them. Been on CM9 :) And wipes is safe on both as the MMC_CAP_ERASE is disabled in both kernels (even noted same above by shoey :))

Hope this helps!!

Cheers!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] toxicthunder:
As abhisahara rightly says, you should overclock only if you have the need for it, not because it's the 'in' thing. It will result in a huge drain for your device and perhaps heating up as well.

If you think that it will improve performance dramatically, please do away with this illusion.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ilordvader:
I formated my Internal SD & then did Factory reset

My Phone works Great now & has better Battery Life too :)

Wonder why everybody keeps saying dont Factory rest ???
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SpyderTracks:
Have you read the open of this thread about the superbrick bug? There are various others also including one on Samsung and Google's official response.

Sent from my Paranoid Android GT-N7000. It doesn't get much better than this!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ilordvader:
I have done this 2/3 times

so i beleive i cant be that lucky

well it worked for me
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SpyderTracks:
Please, not another "well it worked OK for me"!

Sent from my Paranoid Android GT-N7000. It doesn't get much better than this!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
Download eMMc Brickbug check by Vinagre from Playstore and run it to make sure u haven't done any damage:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] serialteg:
Guys,

I installed GB rooted using ODIN and when I used the LPF root + kernel to get the CWM thru Mobile ODIN the phone didn't go further than the first splash screen. I actually found out that the ROM I'd installed was LC1 based, and that's probably why I hit that wall.

Just so you know, it's maybe mentioned back in this thread, I don't know.

All I'm trying to do is get CWM in there so I can install a custom ROM. I was thinking Paranoid Android. But flashing any ZIP from the stock Android recovery gives me a signature error message, so I haven't been able to install the CWM.zip mentioned in other threads. That's why I went thru the CF-root + kernel w/CWM route.

I'm kind of apprehensive of doing the kernel swaps with all this bricking thing going on (and ICS). I can live with GB - I just need to get CWM in here, and it's been all but smooth! :(

Suggestions?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] azzledazzle:
CWM.zip is signed so it should be read and flashed via android recovery.

Personally If you are scared about the bricking, I would stay on GB, There will be a fix soon and to be honest there isnt a great deal of difference between GB and ICS.

if you do decide to flash make sure to use abyss kernel, there are 2 kernels one for GB and one for ICS (so im told) so be sure to get the right one
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] serialteg:
It didn't want to work that way, but I used the correct kernel (matching the one in About Phone) and I have CWM.

Thanks!

Where do I get it? I'm searching...

Right now I'm on GB, do I flash the Abyss ICS kernel before or after flashing Paranoid Android?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] azzledazzle:
get what ? Abyss kernel ?

GB - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69014495/AbyssNotekernel42RedTouchOriginalLogo.zip

ICS- https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69014495/AbyssNotekernel42CWTouchOriginalLogo.zip