[About XDA developers] onebornoflight:
See, I won't argue most of your points within reason simply because it'd lead to a pointless argument. However, you and most others seem to ignore the fact that a forum for a device STIMULATES development. That, paired with a growing userbase can either curse a phone into obscurity or move it into the spotlight. Nexus devices are trendy recently - read the "what's your next smartphone" thread. Had the rumor of a Nexus with a QWERTY been true, I would've bought one for the development. Despite that, I've embraced a device with fledgling development at best as of right now. I've messaged numerous people with similar chipsets and similar devices about porting roms over and always hear the same 2 lines- when you guys get CM official or when you get your own forum and I can connect with the team that way. This site is still about the developers but the proof is in the pudding. Look at the Doubleshot now! Do you think the wealth of roms available for that device would be there had XDA had the same attitude it has now? I'd wager it wouldn't!

We have three threads going right now which unfortunately I can't link - stock browser plus 2g speed in the country isn't friendly to such endeavors. In those threads there are multiple "well I was looking at this device but it doesn't have its own forum/roms other than CM etc" We are asking for a forum to stimulate development and provide a home for it to grow. This phone will be the replacement moving forward through T Mo for the Doubleshot - meaning its userbase will be slowly ending up with Relays. Does this in itself show the device deserving of a forum?

That is the question - does XDA want to help a device and a (right now) small development team with an archive and all that is needed to grow said development? There are SOME among you who do - our initial home thread was moved and reopened, after most of the team moved to IRC.

FYI - and I know benchmarking isn't always used as a mark of anything -but I have 4 friends with GS3's and I've spanked all 3 in Antutu. With Stock, debloated TW. If this site is for the developers, those same developers who got ICS booting on the G1(!), don't you want to see what a device like this is capable of once the word gets out?

We had root within 3 days, CWM within 2 weeks, and Samsung released the source code pretty much immediately. We have CM 95% complete, with the camera still a question mark, and CM10 in the works. We've been in touch with the Collective, and others, and most of them are waitng on XDA or CM.

I know all of this sounds like another end user with an ax to grind and maybe that's all it is. But to me, the real meat of development (as someone who used to mod the original Xbox for fun to see what it was capable of) is in maximizing the potential of a piece of hardware. This site right now determines if devices reach their potential.

I submit the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G as a device with lots of potential and a growing user base, for consideration for its own home within this network built around unlocking potential. The reasons we've stated above and if that plus the potential isn't enough, then I guess we're stuck. It's a vicious cycle. We can't prove worthiness without the word getting out and the word won't get out unless we prove worthiness.

The choice is ultimately yours, and that of the admins to the site. The demand is there, the device has active development that is slowly growing.

It seems to me that XDA's old way of doing things was a bit better.