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[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
Really? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info :)
[HTC Wildfire S] mstfkaratas:
not device depended, .odex files are ROM depended, so they just work if you dont modify any of the files in bootclasspath as far as i know
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
Had a search around, looks like we are the only people trying to port the Desire C.
[HTC Wildfire S] ONeill123:
I think this isn't a big problem ;) Maybe no others know how to port or something else :)
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
We're not the only ones, there are people on other devices who attempted, but I think they gave up.
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
i hope after this rom has been completed,it will be on xda news:D
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
As soon as it boots my friend. x
[HTC Wildfire S] 441Excelsior:
any news? no post have been made since 11th
[HTC Wildfire S] pinkypie:
been waiting patiently for this one as well as the polishing of cm9 :D
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
We're still trying. There's this one error that's so frustrating..
[HTC Wildfire S] razer1224:
Hey Devs!I am looking out this kernel for porting in salsa ,salsa has the same specs as wildfire s.....plz salsa is poor and out of roms......
[HTC Wildfire S] 441Excelsior:
so good luck....you are porting whole ics or only sense 4?
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
You're confused. ICS and Sense 4 are two different ROMs. Sense 4 is based on ICS, it's HTC's custom UI overlay that's on top of ICS.
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
ICS has been ported by modpunk in the form of CM9, the wfsdev team are working on a Sense 4 port using his sources also.
[HTC Wildfire S] droid000:
Are there any news?? :)
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
If there was, it would have been posted by now
[HTC Wildfire S] Thrawed:
You're confused. Sense 4 is ICS. ICS is just the codename for android 4. Sense 4 is based on AOSP 4.0, just like CM9 is based on AOSP 4.0
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
What the hell is this? You paraphrased what I wrote.
[HTC Wildfire S] compro01:
Sense 4 is a GUI, which runs on ICS (which is android 4.0).
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
What the **** is going on here? Nearly every thread has an arguement or disagreement OT in it now. If you nothing productive to say, don't post. PLEASE.
[HTC Wildfire S] Royal King:
What's the progress guys :)
[HTC Wildfire S] Fikus011:
Exactly what are the two of you going about? :D :D :D

you managed to confuse Ben and half of the thread :D :D :D
[HTC Wildfire S] chaplinb:
Even this Ben is confused :S
[HTC Wildfire S] 441Excelsior:
is this version of sense with 3D effects like in one x ?
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Its the port from the desire c.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Uh was I ban at any point within the last 12 hours?? :eek::confused:
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
Of course not, what are you talking about?
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
lmao <3 irc :D
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
afaik there's nothing going on with sense 4 for the wfs atm?
[HTC Wildfire S] SanderTheNinja:
This is the sense 4 port.
[HTC Wildfire S] midgetman7782:
Nope its desire c so it will be like sense 3.5 basic, no animations
[HTC Wildfire S] SanderTheNinja:
Look at the screenshots from the desire c.
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
Nope.png. Looky at the video reviews on YouTube of the Desire C. It's near identical to the One X.
[HTC Wildfire S] 441Excelsior:
what about porting sense 3.0 from DHD? it will be nicer than sense 4 basic
[HTC Wildfire S] SanderTheNinja:
Sense 4 has android 4.0. Me gusta.
[HTC Wildfire S] 441Excelsior:
so what about porting sense 4 from one x?
[HTC Wildfire S] oemfoefoee:
That's impossible. Look at the differences between the two devices..
[HTC Wildfire S] aswerth:
Desire C has similar specs with Wildfire S, like screen resolution and processor architecture. So, it is easier to port from Desire C. :)
[HTC Wildfire S] csoulr666:
Actually the processor architecture is different...... which is why it is hard
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
Benjamin already cannot port sense 4 from one v,why do u expect him to port from one x
[HTC Wildfire S] cpie20:
It was a question.
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
i am answering yr question
[HTC Wildfire S] :
Guys, start a poll

If you receive enough votes for wanting Sense 4.0

I will port it and support it
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
seriously?

cool!

(it's hard and near to

impossible

though :P)
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Haha you could just work with us ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] Thrawed:
shaky156 has already created a port for the desire.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
The Desire is armv7. Do your research before you try and create a pointless argument again.
[HTC Wildfire S] Thrawed:
I wasn't talking to you.
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
A nice game of spot the difference

ARMv

7

ARMv

6

Thanks for playing!
[HTC Wildfire S] :
I received a pm from someone in this thread, when I ported for desire/incredible/nexus one. At that time I couldnt reply to all pm's I was getting (too many).

I have to work with someone here as I do not own the device.

I need to work with someone that has basic knowledge in Android, mainly logging.

I will release a single build for everyone to use, I would prefer if people would pm me for permission to use the base, but I'm very generous and say yes most times, e.g. I prefer not to have 10 of the same ROM with different theme (that's OTT)

I'll then later support it in my AIO flashable zip

I was the first to run an NEXUS ICS (Nexus device with OMAP SOC) on a MSM7X30 (Desire HD (QUALCOMM SOC)) back in november when modaco leaked the rom, like I said, receive enough votes and I'll do it :)
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
It wont be easy, since as stated before, this phone is ARMv

6

. Other phones are ARMv

7

, as such, they have more compatible drivers etc etc unlike ARMv6.
[HTC Wildfire S] :
I don't expect it to be easy, I only take challenges, and what people claim to be impossible

I just remembered, I own a Wildfire (not a Wildfire S), I'll work on it in my spare time :)
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Okay,

Not to instruct you or anything but it'll probably kind of a let down if you can't get this thing booting. The best and easiest possible thing to do is to work together over github on the project.
[HTC Wildfire S] Thrawed:
Haha, seriously guys..?! Someone comes in and offers you help with getting the next generation of sense and all you do is throw it back in their face. That is completely the wrong attitude to be working with, especially as some of you like to call yourselves 'developers'.
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
You'll earn a cookie if you get past the bootscreen.
[HTC Wildfire S] :
I'm not promising anything, I'm only attempting it, if I succeed or not it another story.

I remembered I have a wildfire, I'll attempt it on that in my spare time :)

I prefer working on my own as I can dev whenever I want and it speeds up development for me
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
fixed it.

i stated that ARMv6 is harder to work with for sense 4.
[HTC Wildfire S] :
I +1 that lol

you guys give the wrong impression.

It's ok, I'll only dev for Wildfire in my spare time. Im out! & Goodluck! :p
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
don't kill your wildfire with sense 4.

no hwa, internal space practically as same as on the wfs, less ram
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
We aren't throwing it back in his face, you obviously don't even know the differences between armv6 and v7 otherwise you wouldn't make that stupid comment. We are developers, because we develop things - unlike you where you sit down on your lazy, sorry ass all day and do nothing but comment badly on other peoples work.

And if you even think anybody in this forum even likes your presence in this post then you are very much mistaken, heres a few things you probably didn't know:

1) Everybody in IRC talks behind your back

2) Nobody actually likes you on this forum, and when they see your presence they actually cringe in disgust

3) Myself and others use your name "Thrawed" as an insult when people are trolling on IRC/gtalk.

4) The forum moderator is watching you closely

Oh and here's something for you, since you don't think any of us are developers: http://goo.gl/VevqD

Okay cool. Please try and ignore our little Wildfire S troll name Thrawed. He can get rather nasty on times but we try and keep him under control.
[HTC Wildfire S] Jill the not Mecha person:
Agreed.
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
Cool it. Can we not have a repeat of Einstein please.

---------- Post added at 03:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:35 PM ----------

Can't you just work with us on our GitHub instead of starting from scratch? It'll be a lot quicker, and we're already most of the way there.
[HTC Wildfire S] Fikus011:
Agree with Ivan,chill...Thrawed is ok,i like his humor sometimes,and to be honest he does contribute by giving constructive and informative answers to newcomers too...dont be hursh on him.I˝m not taking sides,never will...i just like PEACE(beleive me its sooo easy to get along...coming from a keyboard and mind of a guy from Serbia should mean smtn...am tired of ppl fighting)

I apologize for OT...but knowing you guys,i kinda look at this forum as our place...and i like peace in family..hope you get me ;)

And yea,,,working with other dev is a good thing for all...i must say i seen some devs flaming like kids in HTC ONE V forum and was disquisted by that.

Thumbs up for cooperation of any sort.

Now that i finished this book..i am going to wish you good luck and Cheers!!!
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
nonononononononono,come back and port sense 4 maybe there will be 2 sense 4 Rom, wouldn't it be great??????????
[HTC Wildfire S] 181charan:
You guys actually seem insecure of your "position"!! The other day when an Ace member came to help with MIUIv4 he was treated bad n when I pm d him tho a lil late, he managed to get it booting with less effort than you guys!

Why couldn't you just accept that there are ppl around this place who know just LIL bit more than you n have more experience!!

I don't say you guys aren't doing anything, the work you guys do is what's keeping this forum ALIVE and it's never something bad to seek HELP from others who OFFER to help on their own!! Cuz in the past few days I realised how little help you get from ppl whom you keep asking for help form!! And knowledge is like water! Staying stagnant for too long attracts nothing but flies and mosquitoes!!! So let the knowledge flow!!! ;) :)

And I respect Thrawed's views on things too, not EVERYONE thinks alike you know!!

Hope I haven't hurt anyone, PEACE! :)
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
Who said we're insecure about anything? Who was treated bad and how? We've asked quite a few people to try and help us get this thing booting but most of them just don't reply. I know your post isn't directed at me, because I've never posted anything remotely rude on these forums, or at least none of my posts were meant to be. I apologise on behalf of everyone who's posts come across as mean/rude, I'm pretty sure they weren't meant to be. We all talk together in IRC and I can assure you that none of us are purposefully mean to anyone (with the exception of Ben who doesn't get along with Thrawed).

On another note, if anyone would like to help us get this thing booted, then you're more than welcome to join us in #wfsdev in Freenode. We promise you'll be treated with respect and kindness, and if you do help us get it booting you'll be rewarded with internet cookies :)
[HTC Wildfire S] 441Excelsior:
golf has 512MB RAM...same as wildfire s
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
That we know.
[HTC Wildfire S] csoulr666:
To be clear..... The only differences that's making this hard is the proceed are

1)Size

2)The processor.......

the second is the main problem. The golf has an ARMv7 processor while our phone is an ARMv6.....so the port involves this big pain in the butt
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
Other important problem is the size of system partition... our is about 270, but Sense4 needs more free space to run, because of that we have need to move a lot of apps into data partition, btw that can kill a lot of processes and FCs

Enviado desde mi Wildfire S A510e usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC Wildfire S] csoulr666:
@OliverG96- Check thingy no.1

That's what I said(in short).........and it's been taken care of.....

They have removed unnecessary apps and moved some in /data/app.....that's the first thing they did
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
We, we move it(:

Enviado desde mi Wildfire S A510e usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Pst.. he IS us.

Oh and where have you been Oliver?? :)
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
Last Friday was my grraduation:$

Because of that I took a little time for me(exactly for a girl):$

But now I'm back

Enviado desde mi Wildfire S A510e usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
Can all WFSDEV members please come to irc asap? Thanks.
[HTC Wildfire S] eoghan2t7:
Right guys im only going to say this once stop picking on Thrawed he has only mad a few bad judgement calls not broke in to your house and stole all your money etc. If i see anymore abuse towards him i will report you to a moderator and i dont care who you are i will report you. just learn to forgive and forget.
[HTC Wildfire S] csoulr666:
Finally someone to agree on!!!!! Sure Thrawed makes some bad calls sometimes......... but it doesn't mean you can pick on him and call him things(*cough* Ben *cough*)....... he makes his contributions to XDA by helping outs noobs and members..... he is a critic sometimes but he ain't that bad
[HTC Wildfire S] Mr. Clown:
Closed by OP request
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
It's in /system/resource
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
So I deodexed and pngcrushed all 168 of the apk's in /system/app, and the size of the folder has changed from 189.1MB to 91.9MB ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
you gotta watch out for systemui and a couple others. some systems really hate that. just fyi....
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
What others don't like it? Just for future reference. If it doesn't like it we can put it back to how it was before.
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
for the most part it is systemui and the apks in framework. those are the main ones that in my experience will kill over when crushed...
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
I didn't crush the ones in framework, but I did crush systemui. If it doesn't like it I'll revert back. Thanks for the tip :)
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Okay so we can fit it onto our phones?

the system partition is around 160mb
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
look at what i said in the text file on github.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
ATM I'm still on my phone, but I will look now...
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
Woo, as I said in the One V thread, as soon as there is a preview rom, it's gonna be on the portal with CM9. :)
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
The mod who closed the other thread agreed he will reopen it when there is a download available.
[HTC Wildfire S] Fikus011:
Sugestion: I seen Henry˝s zip,try removing Flickr,Facebook,twitter and similar crap out...apps and their widgets too...you may leave HTC FB for people that use it...all the other stuff is useless and its taking space.

Strip it naked as much as you can.
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
or allow people to have a choice like using aroma installer to choose what app to remain in the phone just like .sense
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Maybe, that requires a little bit of coding extra. Ask the others...
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
ok
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
I deleted unnecessary xhdpi, hdpi and ldpi files and it brought /system/app down to 99.9MB.
[HTC Wildfire S] :
Next, find a kernel and flashing it. Dudeman can you undo pngcrush off systemui, rosie, phonesky and the biggest apk, dont remember the name.

These apks are most important for functioning rom.

And delete videos.apk, not needed.

Maybe deodex framework also.

Just back on hc miui, hated force closes on cm9.

Sent from my WFS
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
It should be small enough to fit, don't delete anything yet, remember we are aiming for the best experience possible.

P.S. When I get internet in some form I will help... A lot.
[HTC Wildfire S] :
Videos.apk really has no purpose, its a video editor. The rom should fit without custom partitioning.

Sent from my WFS
[HTC Wildfire S] *se-nsei.:
Benj is right in keeping as much quality to the ROMs features as possible. So excited. :D
[HTC Wildfire S] Fikus011:
I Agree on that,it should fit without partitioning...as i see it-you can delete every system app that can be replaced with similar one from market(or that can be installed later as an single apk..as an user app.

Its going to make rom smaller in size,and not to mention howmuch easier its going to be for folks with no knowledge to flash it.

Just my opinnion and toughts.Thats all.

Make it able to boot,and add stuff later,or whatever you want to ;) ,not my bussines anyway,just trying to give some feedback
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
I did have a backup of the apks but I accidentally deleted it... Sorry. Git says that you have a backup in case we needed it.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found the apks. I'll push them to git asap

Um as of now, /system takes up 328.8MB
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Hmm, move some apps to /data/app - but only non-system ones, like FM radio
[HTC Wildfire S] eoghan2t7:
Its in the customize folder named startanimation are something ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
It was in /system/customize/resource :D
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
Spoke to simon through a git issue, and he suggested putting some apps to /data/app, then use darktremor apps2sd to move them to sd-ext. I made a list of possible apps to move on the git.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Okay thanks mate.

Sorry guys, still no wifi :(

time to tether on a 512 contract
[HTC Wildfire S] nephertiti:
Forgive me but i have one silly question :) Is there TV-OUT option :D?

And thank you all I will donate you guys whn Rom is ready :)
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Thanks for the pre donate LOL :)

I have done a load of changes today using mobile teather. /system/app is now around 67 mb

Edit: as for your question, I do not know.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
I'm going to try and get this thing at least booting to logcat today.

Realistically we need a Sense 3.0 kernel for the Desire C and some of the work from modpunks 3.0 kernel, but for now we could try using a sense 3.5 (2.6.xx) kernel. Some libs will need to be swapped.

I will probably work on this all day today.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Okay this weekend all I was doing was this, the problem is in meta-inf/bin/xbin - for some reason it won't execute low level binaries - such as shell and logcat.

We need help, please see our github if you know what I'm talking about and send us a pull request.
[HTC Wildfire S] zhuoyang:
Hi , I am an aria user/porter

May I ask what are the system partition size on the wildfire s?

and what are the status now?
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
It's 270mb as far as I know. Read the thread. It's covered in status updates.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
266mb. Leaving around 4mb free on the marvel
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
A developer from the heroc is helping us. S/he claims to have it booting to logcat on the heroc - we will help each other to achieve sense 4 on both phones.
[HTC Wildfire S] lolo7291:
As I told you Benjamin, we are some devs on the hero gsm working on it at the moment. We can flash it and see boot animation for the moment
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Indeed, we need your sources, ajrty33 has agreed to help us already.

We believe it is probably a kernel problem. Please join us on #wfsdevteam on freenode.
[HTC Wildfire S] zhuoyang:
I wanted to port this ROM using benjamingwynn as base. It should be easy porting ROM from wildfire S to aria, but should i use CM9 Kernel?
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
i remember cm kernel is differet from sense kernel, i think it needed to be tweaked
[HTC Wildfire S] Coentje44:
Ofc it has to be edited, bootclass-paths, permissions, new HTC ICS lines etc.
[HTC Wildfire S] davidang:
can we add s voice into this rom?
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
No. It's pretty reliant on the TouchWiz interface. It's literally vlingo anyway.
[HTC Wildfire S] Fikus011:
Dudeman is right...btw i have the apk of that app,its about 30mb and i tried it in CM9...it starts...but when asked it just force close...i can post my box link to it later if anyone wants to play or modify...nothing special about it,trust me or i would have already post it in app section.

Cheers
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
Did you remove voice search?
[HTC Wildfire S] Fikus011:
Nope,didnt thought of trying that...here is the link anyway so you guys can try it out ..

https://www.box.com/s/20116735ef48c63e35df

Have fun ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
Problems when installing from recovery fixed, now, after boot it, it reboot into recovery...(:

https://github.com/wfsdev/marvel-golf-port/commit/82a5a4493589f3dd6f3121f1cb188f7353a16b2e

First problem is that line:

-#symlink("/data/symlink-app/FM_Radio.apk","/system/app/FM_Radio.apk");

-#symlink("/data/symlink-app/HTCAlbum.apk","/system/app/HTCAlbum.apk");

The recovery says that's a sintax bug, the I delete it and have another problem, when mounting system and data folders.

It seems like that:

mount("MTD", "system", "/system");

mount("MTD", "userdata", "/data");

And must to be like that:

mount("yaffs2", "MTD", "system", "/system");

mount("yaffs2", "MTD", "userdata", "/data");

Now we're going to work on ARMv6 support, but I think that we can't fix a lot of bugs without have a original source code from HTC, because playing with binarys that's going to be really difficult...:(
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
The symlink format doesn't look right
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
It wasn't. That was the stuff removed.

I am guessing the issue lies with something not installing properly in update script or either the boot.img going kaput some how.
[HTC Wildfire S] dudeman1996:
Well we can say that you and OliverG96 know what to do about logcat, which is the next step to getting everything else to work. Stupid kernel.
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
I wait that we can fix it nearly in time:D
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
I'm taking a day off deving fine for work amongst other things. I will probably be back tomorrow or the day after.
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
Today, I'm going try to port Sense 4 ramdisk into Sense3.5 Kernel by idogx (Benjamyn Idea):D

It's possible that we can get the ROM booting, if not, the logcat working(:
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
Prolly won't work. You need to find the differences and merge non device specific ones in
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Half Simon's idea lol.
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
Help us:D
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
btw /system has exactly 282460160 bytes

275840 KiB

269,375 MiB

you can get the byte size of all partitions by typing

cat /proc/mtd

into a terminal on the phone or via adb.

Output:

$ cat /proc/mtd
dev: size erasesize name
mtd0: 000a0000 00020000 "misc"
mtd1: 00500000 00020000 "recovery"
mtd2: 00340000 00020000 "boot"
mtd3: 10d60000 00020000 "system"
mtd4: 02300000 00020000 "cache"
mtd5: 09600000 00020000 "userdata"
mtd6: 00a00000 00020000 "devlog"

When you convert the "size" values from HEX to BIN you get the bytesize of a partition.

However, depending which radio version the phone has, these values can differ. So I recommend for greatest compatibility to restrict the port to a 250 MiB size maximum.
[HTC Wildfire S] :
Thanks, can be useful after an install.

Check github, added some info after testing.

Now back from nandroid.
[HTC Wildfire S] Eskuero:
Henry, did you pull new updater-script before building?

Now it works(:
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
It's all in the boot.img I think.
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
The zimage is the same between all versions of sense. The only thing that changes between versions is ramdisk. So using that logic use any sense zimage and then find the diff in the ramdisk
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
So sense 4 ramdisk and sense 3.5 kernel then.
[HTC Wildfire S] jmz:
But there are device specific stuff in the ramdisk.
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Ah I see. So we must modify it?