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[HTC Sensation] Superpiper1972:
I think thats a rather myopic and shallow sighted, knee jerk reaction to what are some fundemental issues here wrt CM9 on the Sensation.

The whole point of providing an alternative ROM to stock is that its at least, servicable and ideally should be either a sideways or upwards move in usabillity and abillity. CM9 for the Sensation is (at least in usabillity) a somewhat backwards move given all of the bugs it has, and basic system bugs at that.

YMMV, but,

Audio routing issues

BT issues

Battery life issues

Awful Camera app

Kernal instabillity

Basic apps not included (Wifi calling/Radio)

Awful keyboard implementation

Poor scrolling

App incompatabillty.

Now, you will reply that issues x,y,z are not apparent on your device, but that neither here or there, the issues exist. Have a read of the Cyanogenmod front web page. It promises a vastly improved experience, when in truth the opposite is true (On the sensation anyway)

Finally, what irks me is the quite blatent preference given to Samsung devices, given the history of Cyanogen. The development of the Sensation rom is piss poor in comparason and its only thanks to dedicated users like Vorbeth that we have anything working at all.

The sensation is an excellent, unit. Im just a little sad its been left behind somewhat by CGM.

I'm alos aware that CM is free, etc and "if you don't like it, feck off etc, etc" but i think that misses the core purpose of CM, which is to do things different and better. I've gone back to Sense. Sense works bloody well in fairness. The modern phones don't really need to have the arse hacked out of the code to get them to run smoothly, they have plenty of power etc in reserve. Using a custom launcher on the sensation, one would not really be aware of wether you are using CM or sense as a OS, Cm does not provide a quantum leap in performance, in fact quite the opposite in certain areas.

Not sure what the summary to all this is, but the issues at hand are a little more complex than "hey, don't like- don't use"

YMMV obviously.
[HTC Sensation] Shady Gambino:
Ah, okay, thanks. Looking forward to getting this fixed, it's quite annoying!

I've ran fix permissions with 4ext recovery with no results. :(
[HTC Sensation] invisiblewave:
Absofrigginlutely! CM has lost its way. By the time there's a stable release, 4.1 will already be with us.
[HTC Sensation] KCuadrado:
Today's nightly (27th) has more added resolutions into the camera :B that is nice

http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/#pyramid/cm9/1340787914
[HTC Sensation] bruce2728:
They only added a 6mp option, so nothing for us
[HTC Sensation] Dano79:
Try a different rom lol
[HTC Sensation] Bastaerd:
Try OpenSensation ;)
[HTC Sensation] Superpiper1972:
Good points, i agree with a lot of what you said in fairness.

CM9 has the potential to be absolutly brilliant if it worked as good as i expect CM would aspire it to. I also admit that i've been going of nightlies which in fairness to CM, they themselves dismiss.

I just wish it would reach its potential, (which it doesn't on the sensation).

also, HTC i think are not blameless either (i gather Samsung are much easier to work with for 3rd party developers)

Peace!
[HTC Sensation] invisiblewave:
If you've been using CM for that long, you should be well aware of the difference between the development cycle prior to 4.0 and what we're experiencing now (at least on this device). I've been running CM nightlies for 3 years and never had cause to resort to other roms for greater reliability. Before there's a good, reliable, feature-rich ICS version ready, 4.1 is probably going to be released.
[HTC Sensation] Whyzor:
Seems now that CM has grown to so many devices, a lot of the "official" devs just merge code, whereas older CM versions, the devs actually did testing, troubleshooting, & debugging code. That's why Sense (or more properly, Stock based) ROMs are more reliable, they have teams of paid engineers who do testing and debugging. After-market hackers & developers do it in their free time and while appreciated, can't be expected to put out the same quality end product.
[HTC Sensation] Superpiper1972:
Vorbeth is on record as offering his services and being refused for Sensation :?

Btw. The criticisms are not negative. What will happen is that the Good name CM has will be diluted by these substandard roms, users won't bother with nightlies for new (non Samsung) as they will assume they are buggy, instead choosing to wait for a stable RC which will create its own negative feedback loop as less and less users hitch up and provide feedback for bugs or patches etc.

It's hard not to feel that this is deliberate, given the Balance of works given to Samsung over HTC now that effectively, one is paymaster of the other (or rumoured to be)

It's better to not bother than to have a half hearted stab at something
[HTC Sensation] invisiblewave:
I agree, CM was always a gold standard amongst alternative roms. As it stands now, there are many more reliable alternatives for the Sensation. It would have been preferable for me if they'd not included Sensation at all, since I bought mine thinking I'd be able to run CM on it. As it is, I'm actually quite liking Sense, and if you run a different launcher you don't even need to know you've got Sense running at all, other than the multi-tasking being sub-standard. Be nice if someone came up with a Swap implementation for Sense roms.
[HTC Sensation] one80oneday:
CM9 RC yesterday, JB today = CM10 in 6 months? :)
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Seriously I don't want cm10. CM9 isn't even stable at all so cyanogenmod is just starting projects and not finishing them at all

Sent from my Sensation
[HTC Sensation] invisiblewave:
I've yet to see any compelling reason to be on ICS over Gingerbread! I don't even think ICS looks any better, it's just different, and if you want different you can stick a theme on.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
One major reason you should consider is that Gingerbread is not even stable for pyramid.

The device tree for it was released but then removed from the public yet again.

I'm sure some like myself would prefer Gingerbread for developmental reasons but unless someone was able to fork it, it'll never be
[HTC Sensation] invisiblewave:
Didn't know that. I only got mine relatively recently, never ran CM7 on it. For the foreseeable future I think I'll be on Sense-based roms. I stuck Energy on it this morning and my battery's still at 87%. By now on a CM9-based rom I'd be down to under 50.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Well stick with slow sense-based roms, it's a preference to be honest.

Like myself I'll only consider samsung or iOS phones from now on.

I tend to spend a good amount of money on accessories just for batteries than it still dies a lot.

Not really worth it IMO
[HTC Sensation] Dano79:
I would rather have a slow os rather than a smart phone that runs like crap.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Pretty sure my next phone will be a Samsung. HTC has pretty much been ignored by cm which is fine because it's their choice to develop what they want. But I love cm so I want to get something that will run it very well. Apple though, I can't stand their phones...my work gives me one and it's terrible. It takes significantly longer and more effort to get things done. But that may because I'm so used to android. And battery life for my I phone is terrible by comparison. I only use it for emails and occasional calls and the battery lasts as long as my sensation, which is overclocked and I use way more. Email, calls, texts, xda, reading the news. It just doesn't make sense to me that a phone with 3 times the processing power would last longer. But that's just my opinion... Sorry won't clutter the thread anymore.
[HTC Sensation] bxlegend:
There is no stable AOSP build of CM for any device available yet. Samsung devices are easier to develop for because Samsung helps the developers with their issues. ICS was a major code shift from GB and it is the main reason CM9 took so long to reach RC. All of the Sense based ROMS are not made by XDA developers from source like AOSP. All that happens with those are tweaks here and there of the original shipping ROM. Most of the Sense ROMS are tweaks to other developers tweaks. AOSP camera is not the fault of CM so stop blaming them for it. CM10 will come out sooner than it took 4.0 since it's not a major change. Contacting the CM team about adding on a developer (like Vorbeth) will do no good. The developer will have to contact them on their own and express their desire to become a maintainer. Hacks are no longer being accepted in CM development as they are working with the Google model that will help to cut down on non-app related bug reports. So if a hack is used to solve an issue, it's not going to make it into CM. Battery usage is a per user issue if you ask me. I have the same battery (even better actually) that I've had with Sense. If you are using your phone as a media player or GPS, you will get significantly less battery which is always stated in specs. Lastly, if you have personal issues with CM you can gripe about it in the general section. Let's try to move back into development talk and stay away from our personal feelings. Thank you everyone for reading through this.
[HTC Sensation] Superpiper1972:
I don't think people eventually vocalising thier exasperation with the CM9 rom for the Sensation is strictly "personal feelings" but you've pretty much agreed with what everyone else has written over the last few pages so fair enough.

I had a look for those specs you mentioned, i can't find any reference? Any chance you could hook up a link?

Regards

SP.
[HTC Sensation] invisiblewave:
The Quadrant score is similar to CM9, and there's no lag or other subjective feeling that it's slower.
[HTC Sensation] ka1iban:
Think I'm in the same boat as you. I love the build quality of HTC phones and the company's relative openness, but I'm not thrilled about some of the design decisions in their One line (non-removable battery, proprietary cable, no SD card slot). The comparative specs of the SGIII combined with the universality of its release on all the major characters (and the devs' love for Samsung) means that that's probably going to be the money CM phone going forward.
[HTC Sensation] Dano79:
Wow RC really is this a joke Ill stick with the nightlies I guess. I tried running sense but its terrible hopefully cm9 can squash all these bugs. Might just have to down grade my firmware for a 2.3.5 rom. Nice nightly 28 is running like a champ go figure all hope isnt lost. Thanks whoever made this galaxy launcher ive been using it alot its better then any launcher out there. IMHO
[HTC Sensation] waltthizzney:
can someone help me out here I can't get Wifi or Bluetooth to even turn on with either builds or ANY kernal… here is my log, sorry its long i dont know what part u need

WIFI:

http://www.mediafire.com/?6qm0uvq0vqcvjev
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
U dum

I could use some decency in responding, but fight fire with fire - right?
[HTC Sensation] BookCase:
Beautiful!

This worked perfectly for me, as well. I only hope I don't have to do a full wipe every time. Thanks for sharing this, BTW.
[HTC Sensation] bxlegend:
It's not in any documentation that came with the phone but it's common knowledge on any device that if you use it for music and video you're going to get less battery.
[HTC Sensation] bruce2728:
I was looking at the cm bug tracker and noticed all the bugs for our device aren't listed, if I had the time I'd put them on there myself but I haven't at the moment.

Anybody willing to do it? Things may get fixed a bit quicker.

http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list?can=2&q=pyramid
[HTC Sensation] bxlegend:
They are not listed because bug reports are not accepted for nightly builds. You can only submit bug reports on the RC builds and stable releases.
[HTC Sensation] Rusty!:
Good job RC1 just came out...
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Way too soon to release an rc IMO. They just wanted to give pyramid it so there done with it for the time being, notice how there's hardly any new fixes for cm9 right now? It's mostly just pure translations

Sent from my Sensation
[HTC Sensation] knightsray:
Is HDMI out fixed already? I havent used nightly in a while
[HTC Sensation] mir63rus:
I do not like scrolling to the CM9.

I do not like scrolling to the CM9. Is it possible to make a smoother and faster, as the Sense firmware?
[HTC Sensation] bxlegend:
Search the thread for some tips and tricks.
[HTC Sensation] bruce2728:
I agree, it says on the cm site that it was released because the core os is stable, don't Bluetooth, hw acc and audio count as core os then?
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Sadly all the things you mentioned are working

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] bruce2728:
We don't have full hardware a acceleration and the audio has been "bandaided" and afaik the Bluetooth either causes a wake lock or doesn't work properly, not exactly stable is it
[HTC Sensation] Vorbeth:
Complain to htc for using non standard drivers and not releasing enough source code to resolve the remaining issues
[HTC Sensation] James1o1o:
Isn't the camera also broken in a way? It doesn't support 1080p recording and if I'm honest, the capture quality way bellow par compared to stock HTC os.

Now before anyone tells me, I know you can flash a new camera app etc, but this thread is about CM9.
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
Something I've noticed it that picture quality seems lower until I blow samples up side by side, HTC's camera is hardly better. The issue I have, however, is that the video is only in focus wherever you focused the camera before switching to the camcorder.

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Sadly? Sadly, it works?
[HTC Sensation] James1o1o:
The problem I see, is that the CyanogenMod team has taken on support for so many devices that they have become as fragment as Android itself is. They can't perfect CM on one device, what makes them think 40 devices are going to get perfect with so few people working on it, and we know how development works. Someone fixes a bug, another one opens.
[HTC Sensation] lowsnamebrand:
Has anyone found a fix to the data stopping issue (for tmo users) I tried wiping a couple times to no avail
[HTC Sensation] katiepea:
except the phone app crashing when trying to listen to a voicemail (google voice, new ICS feature) everything is pretty great for me on RC1 using bricked. i posted the issue in opensensation thread, i believe a solution was found, so hopefully that gets worked out as it's my favorite feature lately. thanks everyone for the awesome work being done!
[HTC Sensation] OreoBoyVa:
What the difference between nightly and release candidate
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
RCs are typically more stable.
[HTC Sensation] marcjw:
Please explain what new ICS feature you're referencing. I was using GV for VM and VM transcription back with CM7 on my sensation.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Not always

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
I said typically. Typically.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
He might be talking about the jelly bean Google voice though I'm kot sure completely if it was released for other phones

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] ngc604:
There are actually alot of devs working on CM. A lot of the phones can share a lot of the code. But this is not just a CM thing. Nor is it an Android thing. This is a Linux thing. Try to support as much hardware as possible and there is going to be issues along the way. but as with linux you get choices. And that is what attracts serious people to android. If you want no choice then buy an iphone or a windows device and you will have things that just work. Or you can not hack your android device and most things will work and the things that dont will work in time if the device is not forgotten by the carrier or the manufacture.

I for one am happy that Android is keeping true to its linux root by having user support. Like i said before if you want it to just work buy a different phone. If you want choice stick with Android(Linux). That also goes with your desktop.
[HTC Sensation] t0ny0:
*she
[HTC Sensation] ka1iban:
Mine just got better the next day. I assumed it was network maintenance on Tmob's side
[HTC Sensation] Rusty!:
Nightly builds are built automatically and spaffed out from the buildbot no matter what (unless they fail to build, of course). RC's are actually tested before release.
[HTC Sensation] idtheftvictim:
I saw that there was something merged into the latest 7/2 build called "NavBar: Custumization" or something like that. Does that mean we can have the nav bar now?

I can't find where I would enable it. Maybe this is just for the phones that don't have hardware buttons.

Anyone know?

Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Rusty!:
No, it's there for devices that already use the nav bar.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Sorry I got to laugh at this. Even sometimes rc aren't tested. They probably base it off feedback

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] emanon:
If you really want nav bar you can use apex launcher. apex launcher have that option.

\Regards,
[HTC Sensation] katiepea:
google voice was updated a couple weeks/maybe months, back, and it included an option within google voice for your voicemails to display directly inside of the stock phone app itself, the call history log. if you select a voicemail in the phone app it brings you to a new screen where you can listen to your voicemail, speed it up, slow it down, etc. it's a really nice integration feature thus making google voice actually entirely transparent if you want it to be.
[HTC Sensation] Rusty!:
From someone who would know: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=15362669&post15362669
[HTC Sensation] go2net:
I also have this issue. Normally, I update ROM via wifi, but today, I download it from my PC, then transfer to phone via USB, a 120M ROM need more than 30 minutes, it must a problem.

I have tried many ROMs, this is first time I meet transfer a 120M file need so long time, as your suggestion, I switched to recovery mode, every is OK for transfer (only spent 30 second to transfer 120M ROM, it is reasonable now) .

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If phone works like you mentioned, it should no be a good ROM, in other word, ROM has a BUG in task switching. I think no one can suffer to only 2k/s USB transfer speed.

BTW, I am using opensensation, hope this issue is just a opensensation issue :), and please note, read speed from phone to PC is fine.
[HTC Sensation] wodzini:
Same issue since cm7 to cm9, sometimes it even hungs up my pc on copying file to sdcard ( no problems on other roms)
[HTC Sensation] katiepea:
Did you format your SD card before moving to ICS? There are a lot of gingerbread remnants that slow SD card performance that should be removed before installing ICS
[HTC Sensation] knightsray:
This rom has become basically useless to me right now because of the data issues. T-Mobile just recently upgraded 3G/4G service in my area too.

Now I have to go install something else :(
[HTC Sensation] wodzini:
i formatted it several times since gingerbread roms.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Simple solution wipe cache and dalvik cache and boom its back

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] knightsray:
Did not work at all. It comes back every now and then but then of course it goes away again. I can't have a service I pay for choose to work when the phone wants it to. When it gets sorted out properly I'll gladly come back and install this! I can't wait for that to happen. Now I have to go back to a sense 4 based rom :silly:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
There is your answer: http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/193655

What link do you need? There are no such links.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] boyq:
Are you Kingair in symbianize? haha

Anyway, that is not the CDA number. That is the SI number of his phone.

No CDA number like that for LWW.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arpruss:
On my E4GT, when I turn the display brightness really low with my ScreenDim app, and then look at something (e.g., a PDF file) which fills the screen with a white background (and black text), while being in a dark room, I can see that the middle third of the screen is slightly pinkish, forming a pinkish vertical stripe, instead of white.

Does anyone else have the issue? If you want to try to see if yours has the issue, you can use ScreenFilter and turn the brightness really low, or you can use the free ScreenDim Trial and set to 25% or a bit lower (in Easy Mode). I'm wondering if I should return the phone to the store, or if they're all like this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arpruss:
Does the lack of replies mean that I am the only one having the problem?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
LOL, good for you for being persistent AR.

I tested this for you on mine and I'd say mine is a little over half on the left side as what you described.

Edit: Title is a little misleading but your initial comment about the whole left side of the screen seems to be correct.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eeeeeeeeek:
Sounds like a symptom of the application. I have not seen a single et4g with a pink line/screen come through my service and repair centers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
This is something you wouldn't normally see in a stock scenario. The lighting app allows for drawing the screen down below 25% and the discoloration is very faint. I wouldn't probably have even noticed it unless I was asked specifically to look for it.

I don't think AR was pointing it out as a problem. He was probably just curious if anyone else could duplicate it using the same setup (well, and to make sure he wasn't really having an issue too I suppose :)).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arpruss:
No, I don't think it's a software problem. The app lowers screen brightness to the lowest level allowed by the OS and then draws a light gray overlay over the screen. The device isn't rooted and the app uses standard documented apis. None of this should produce a nonuniform effect like this stripe. In theory, the same issue should come up if one turns the brightness to a minimum with the OS settings and them loads a light gray image. I'll see if I can produce it.

Also, you only see the effect well if you are in a quite dark room. But since I like to read in the dark, this matters to me. If all units have this, I'll live with it. But if it's only mine, I want it to be fixed.

This issue is one of the reasons I haven't rooted: I may need to return the unit.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
You are right. I would want to know if it is my phone or not before I make a decision to have it replaced. What if the replacement phone not only has the same issue, but a couple of new ones as well? :eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arpruss:
Here's a test that doesn't require any special app.

Turn off automatic brightness and set brightness to minimum.

Then view this test image with the browser

http://pruss.mobi/test/A0.jpg

Zoom until it fills the screen. Go into a dark closet or other windowless room without lights. View the screen from different angles. To me, the discoloration is most visible if I view it in portrait mode, straight on. It disappears if I tilt the screen side-to-side a bit. Here is an attached copy:

Here are some other test images. For me, the above one showed the discoloration best, but it might be different for different people.

http://pruss.mobi/test/70.jpg

http://pruss.mobi/test/80.jpg

http://pruss.mobi/test/90.jpg

http://pruss.mobi/test/B0.jpg

http://pruss.mobi/test/C0.jpg

http://pruss.mobi/test/D0.jpg

http://pruss.mobi/test/E0.jpg

The images are all solid gray.

Here's a QR code for the A0 image:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Hi AR. I tried it out again but I still do not have a line down the screen. I tried several screen brightness levels all the way to 0% where I could barely see the grey and still no line for me. Hope this helps and hopefully someone else will try it for you too.