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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TabGuy:
That page only shows that ICS will be available, there are no dates on the page. Timelessblur stated that (s)he was promised the upgrade was to be delivered in Q1 of this year. I contend that Samsung made no such promise. I've never seen a date "promised" by Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Justananomaly:
I direct quoted your post, and you said NOTHING about a "promised Q1" release. Nor did you specify that you wanted an exact promised date at all. You asked for a page where Samsung promised us ICS. So you got it. Now quit your whining.

But, to answer your post, Samsung did say there was going to be a Q1 ICS update to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 along with several other devices, but they specified it was only the international version and people didn't read that part so they thought their US version was going to get it Q1. Samsung did deliver, mostly, on their international ICS rollout.

Here is one of the several hundred articles quoting Samsungs original press release: http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/samsung-says-galaxy-s-ii-ice-cream-sandwich-update-coming-q1-2012/

And the original press release itself:

More importantly, Samsung added the nice words "will start" in Q1 2012, so regardless of international version or not, it was a promise to START rolling out ICS to legacy devices in Q1, which they did in fact do. They made absolutely no mention of a date everything will be completed by.

You were promised ICS. You were not promised ICS on any date.

Now that this debate is over given proof and facts, I highly suggest everyone stop using this thread to complain in and only post unless you have news of the ics update for this specific device, or ICS news in general, or the mods might delete this thread all together and I don't want that to happen.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Joe T:
According to this article, the Sprint version of the 10.1 is scheduled to be EOL in June.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Seihaku:
That's the 10.1 Wifi edition, which actually has nothing to do with Sprint and I assume that just means they'll stop carrying it... but why were they even carrying the Wifi edition?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] _sbb:
...because the wifi edition has a better coverage map?

:rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
Did a chat with Samsung today on an unrelated issue, but asked about the time. The CSR said that it could be "a month or more." Then something about how "cloud computing rollouts take a long time."

Meh. I'm an XDA user. I've had ICS for months already. Just sayin.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sunixsun:
so ，what's time the camera can work?

It is a very big problem.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] robo116:
:confused:

Did you take time to read the topics ,we all waiting for the release from Samsung to extraxt the camera drivers.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
Didn't they tell you? We're all waiting on you to build it and provide it to samsung and the comunity!

Now, chop chop! Get coding!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zooster:
Samsung won't release ics for 10.1 and 8.9 tabs. Stop hoping. It's not convenient for Samsung, they have to sell new tabs, if they will relase ics then they won't sell new tabs at all. The main differencs of tabs2 is the ics. So why to nullify the only feature able to sell new tab over the old ones?

They will release ics only if the sales of tab2 will be very good, so they won't loose much money from this update.

So just hope tab2 will sell good, in the meantime the ics will be silently delayed month after month untill new tab will reach good sales, and canceled at all if tab2 won't sell good.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] corei7qm:
Especially These contributions are the reason why you have 12 thanks with 600 posts!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zooster:
I don't mind to be thanked, maybe you do, but I liked to take your mood down lol

Anyway this the truth, you like it or not.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
Actually, this is as far from the truth as it can be

It is speculation based on speculation, the fact that you consider it for "the truth" can only show how big your ego is and how wrong you can be.

The only thing "truth" about your statement is the fact that you like to take "our mood down", ie: Being a troll!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zooster:
Omg guys you take this thing so serious... you are too sensitive.

Calm down and let's hope tab2 will sell well, anyway the only fact is that the promised ics hasn't been released, the rest is just hope and speculations based on nothing except on a release statement actually unheeded.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zrpeg:
Camera on ICS ROMs

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I will ask anyway. Not having any great knowledge of how roms are compiled and their compexity, why is it that getting the camera to work on ICS for the TAB 10.1 has been such a difficult obstacle to overcome? I ask this with the utmost thanks and appreciation of all the great work that all have contributed to the development of ICS ROMS.

Cheers.....Don
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mr.fast:
Samsung haven't released the drivers yet
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] leaskovski:
hence why they have said it will be released. :-| I mean really.... do you not read the news?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Just_Another_N00b:
+1 from me...

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It should not make a difference whether or not the Tab2 sells or not. If Samsung is not willing, they will never release it... You can explain away why it has not been released yet, and it probably is some crummy sort of marketing, but Samsung has an install-base (call it client-base) which/who will determine the future of Samsung, the company.

If Samsung would, in their infinite wisdom, decide to forego on the ICS upgrade of the current Tab 10.1/8.9, then my guess is that Acer/Asus/<put your own choice of brand here> will profit on this and get all the 'unfairly treated' ex-Samsung customers.

Therefore I conclude that Samsung WILL bring out the new ICS for the 'Tab1', and we WILL have the ICS camera driver, and then a large amount of people will jump into the alternate ROM's (me included).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zooster:
Maybe Sammy will release ics for tab 1 but I do not agree with you on the reason about when. As you say there are marketing reasons about the release date, and it's the same thing I said from the beginning, when I was accused of trolling.

So I say again that imho it's a marketing reason and it's related to the sales of tab2.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] badogg:
Seems a lot of people are confusing the word "plan" with "promise". :)

It's funny how a lot of people think that Samsung is witholding the update just to be assholes. lol
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
So WHEN exactly was this promised release date which has gone "unheeded"?

As more and more makers update their tablets and it increasingly looks like my G.Tab 10.1 3G is going to be one of the last ones to get it I am getting more and more pissed at the long wait but it's not like I have been promised a long past precise date of release. I have just been promised an ICS update and that's why I bought a G.Tab in January but statements from Samsung about the ICS update have always come with a very vague timeframe reference so I knew I was going to have to wait quite a bit for it.

Some of the comments in this and other similar threads are surreal...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dummy1001:
To be very clear, I really do not care about Marketing wording with regard to "planned" or "promised".

The behavior of Samsung is simply "unacceptable". I am using this word with the experience of 20 years working for vendors in the networking industry. We cannot force any company to release ICS but I am convinced Samsung has to bear the consequence sooner out later.

Just my two cents...

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
This its bullshyt.. It's like saying Samsung wouldn't release ics for SG2 cuz they wont sell sg3..

Go troll somewhere else..

Nexus Cm9 + Franco
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zooster:
Nope, sgs3 compared to sgs2 is a good leap forward under every point of view. Perfomances and almost everything is improved, beside the phablet size and that trash pentile matrix. So yes there are some (weak) reasons to buy sgs3 over sgs2 beside the os.

But for tab2 over tab1 things are totally different, they are about the same tablet, with the only one difference made by the ICS os.

Relasing ics now means to nullify the only different feature of tab2.

So again and again, ics has been delayed and delayed only because evident marketing reasons, all connected to tab2. Anyhow, atm none has yet seen an official ics, and surely it means something.

I hope to be wrong on this, but in the meantime I also hope for very good sales of new tab2, otherwise this huge delay of ics could be permanent.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bestguy:
Sammy, you trick me only once and never again.

If it is a marketing Reason, than this decision is the dumbest Samsung could do. This would be the Dead Strike for all Samsung Tablets.

All HC Tablets already got ICS. Including the cheap Archos Tabs which are selling at 200 Bucks at the Food Discounter Stores.

If there was no Cyanogen9 Mod i would stuck on buggy laggy crappy 3.1 Honeycomb on my 10.1 3g EU Version. Including non working Samsung Bloatware on it.

No thanks. This is the main Reason why i would never ever buy a Tab or Phone from Samsung again. So i dont care when ics will be released for the 10.1. The cm9 nightlys are good. No cam suckz. Whatever. At the first announce of the nexus Tab this gt7500 will be dumped. Bye bye Samsung. you trick me only once.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] guardian855:
Why is the behavior of Samsung "unacceptable"? Were you promised ICS at the time when you bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Euroman28:
Can we get the confirmation once and for all, please. Is the then promised Official Samsung ICS update for Galaxy 10.1 Wifi/3G scrapped?? Yes or no?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
It was never scrapped or cancel. Forget the trolls...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zooster:
Atm there is nothing beside delays over delays. It wouldn't be the first time that a scheduled update is canceled. I usually stick to official statements untill the word is taken, but after someone breaks his word there's no reason to trust or to consider more probable an event over another.

But ask to Samsung, maybe they have some good news, who knows :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] n1vlek:
just wait. its coming. i spoke to a live agent in samsung and the person did tell confirm to me it is within this month, and when you have to wait a few weeks. you already waited for so so long wait a little bit more Xp
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] flyingstore:
I am with u. Will never buy any samsung product. htc is another choice.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
You are still at it after you have already been asked and failed to answer: So

WHEN

exactly was this promised release date which has gone "unheeded"?

WHAT exactly was Samsung's word which has been "taken"?

WHAT exactly were Samsung's words which have been "broken"?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] iGoogleNexus:
Tired of Samsung... Changing Manufacturers =_=

- Google
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SaneinOne:
Our beloved tab will eventually receive official ICS, long ago confirmed by Samsung themselves. Agreed, it has not been made available according to "our" schedule. Oh well. I really don't understand why this thread is still alive.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] angus216:
just want to disable the screencapture...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dummy1001:
What the hell are you talking about? Do you consider your question to be serious?

Nevertheless Samsung has set expectations and they do not keep it. Period.

Think about it. I do like Samsung products but they have disappointed me because they do not deliver. Nobody forced Samsung to set such expectations....

I do understand that many people are ok with it but other people have expected more reliability.

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Timelessblur:
Samsung said the tab would get ics in 1q. We are nearing the end of 2Q with zero word on when we are getting it. No leaks nothing.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nikanorov:
The only thing why I want Samsung to release ICS is Google Chrome. Unfortunately, I use Skype for video calls, so no place for custom ROMs without camara support. (
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
Some people have to learn how to read:

The update is penned to arrive first on both the Galaxy S II and Note in Q1 2012, with other devices following, although the Korean giant says that separate announcements will be made on the finer points -- depending on the "market situation and carriers' requirements."

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-and-note-get-late-ics-christmas-presents-ar/

and this is in no way an official statement...

Q1: SII and Note, the rest will follow
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TabGuy:
Six months after you get an HTC device you'll be saying the same about them. OCDs are never fulfilled.

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Can you elaborate? I must have missed that email from them where they set an expectation. Was it published somewhere?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Panos_dm:
Oh I'm too old for ths s***. I've said it before, I'll say it again:

The only way to get timely updates, as well as the biggest amount of support from the community is the nexus line.

Period.

Unless of course, Google steps in and take serious measoues against fragmentation, something which is way difficult due to the nature of the os. Or somehow the companies release the drivers for old/unsupported phones (highly unlikely).

Anyway. I hope that Samsung will produce a 10.1 nexus tab. I'm so getting it. They make the best damn hardware....

Ok now... flame on! :p

Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] badogg:
Lol!!

That is the funny part. People think that switching manufacturers is going to be any different. I have had 2 HTC phones, the original Droid Incredible, and my current Rezound. Both have had long wait times and the same amount of people stomping their feet and pounding their chests about how long it takes for an OTA update to come out. Saying they are going to dump HTC and go with a Samsung or Moto device. Only to find out that this is pretty much how it is across the board for OTA updates.

Seriously, ya'll just need to learn to be patient already.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] iGoogleNexus:
When it comes to phones... I only do Nexus No Matter who the Manufacturer ... Galaxy Tab 10.1 is my first tablet ever.... but when I see Asus come out with a tablet and then update to 4.0 along with Sony.... makes me wanna switch.

- Google
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] badogg:
I even read posts about people complaining that the galaxy nexus didnt get the ota from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 fast enough. Or whatever the Android versions were, i cant recall that detail.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] iGoogleNexus:
Sorry I'm GSM

- Google
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
Source..? Link..?

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You mean you choose handsets (and will choose your next tablet) based on how fast are the updates..?!? People never cease to amaze me.... :p

My last 3 smartphones have been the Galaxy S, Galaxy SII and the Galaxy Note and I have not chosen them because I have a fetish for Samsung (I used to buy Ericsson, then Sony Ericsson and also had an HP iPAQ) but simply because at the time I bought them I deemed them to be the best on the market for my needs.

I may add that I have been overall pretty happy with the updates too.

My first and so far only tablet is the Galaxy Tab 10.1" 3G and again I have chosen it because I deemed it the overall best tablet on the market at the time (early January 2012).

I actually would have bought the Asus Transformer TF101 but the latest ones were locked and couldn't be rooted and that clearly was a show stopper.

If I had to buy a tablet now I would not buy again my G.Tab nor the G.Tab2 because they are not the best on the market right now.

Anyway, the point is that there are far more important issues to consider than the speed at which the updates come out. For example, if the Asus tablet which has impressed you were the Transformer Prime, it turned out to have major issues like a practically useless GPS and, most importantly, weak Wi-Fi reception (which is a core funcionality for a tablet!).

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Do you consider this to be a serious reply?

What exactly was the "expectation" that Samsung set in you and that they didn't keep??

A hard set date has a precise meaning, vague "expectations" in this context mean nothing since every one of us here can "expect" Samsung statements to mean different things since all they have said is that ICS will come to our tablets and ICS will begin to roll out on Q1 starting with some of their smartphone models. Period.

Look, my Note has got its ICS update since quite a bit but I have not updated it yet because it's not urgent, it already works beautifully as it is and when doing major updates like these I need time to do it the right way so I am posponing it to when I have more spare time and when I feel more like it. My G.Tab on the other hand desperately needs ICS because I don't like it how it runs now all that much and will be one of the first ones to flash it so I too am pissed at all the time it's getting them but I really don't get some of the things said here and in some other threads... Yes, it looks like they are going to be one of the last tablets to be updated but NO, they are NOT breaking precise promises made to us. Some of you are making it sound like they have been REPEATEDLY making it too and a troll is even making people think Samsung won't be updating them anymore... Jeez.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dummy1001:
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Do you consider this to be a serious reply?

What exactly was the "expectation" that Samsung set in you and that they didn't keep??

A hard set date has a precise meaning, vague "expectations" in this context mean nothing since every one of us here can "expect" Samsung statements to mean different things since all they have said is that ICS will come to our tablets and ICS will begin to roll out on Q1 starting with some of their smartphone models. Period.

Look, my Note has got its ICS update since quite a bit but I have not updated it yet because it's not urgent, it already works beautifully as it is and when doing major updates like these I need time to do it the right way so I am posponing it to when I have more spare time and when I feel more like it. My G.Tab on the other hand desperately needs ICS because I don't like it how it runs now all that much and will be one of the first ones to flash it so I too am pissed at all the time it's getting them but I really don't get some of the things said here and in some other threads... Yes, it looks like they are going to be one of the last tablets to be updated but NO, they are NOT breaking precise promises made to us. Some of you are making it sound like they have been REPEATEDLY making it too and a troll is even making people think Samsung won't be updating them anymore... Jeez.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Yes, I am absolutely serious about what I am writing here. I agree with most of your statements.

I had HTC Desire HD previously and never flashed it because I was happy with it and the OS (GB 2.xx). Now I am very happy with my S2 and I flashed a custom ROM quite late because I was very happy with GB 2.3.4 and decided to keep it until I have the time to set up with ICS.

But everything is different with my GalaxyTab. HC is not working properly and buggy and did not fulfill my expectations at all. So fine, they announced an update on lCS in their German Samsung blog. No promise, no exact date and that was ok for me - rather later than buggy...

Today I am running AOKP B38 on my Tab and this is ok but I have frequently to reboot because system hangs but I can see that the Tab can work fine as expected. So I expect Samsung to deliver some OS that works fine and smooth and this requires ICS.

Hope this makes things clearer.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
I don't know what version you are running, but the latest official rom(3.2) is stable and fast. Nothing to compare to the original (3.1). I surely will update to ICS once it's out, but there's nothing rushing me to it with the latest official rom.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lurittelija:
Well, I would understand a quick update IF there was a known bug in every Tab. But my Tab works like a charm and ICS update to SGSII here in europe was a piece of crap that ****ed my phone upside down and I had to reverse to an earlier version before ICS.

It is unfortunate that ur version of the awesome GTab had it's problems but not every one has those and when the day comes they release the ICS I will wait for few weeeks to see what kinds of reviews it gets. I know it is easy for me to write 'cause I never had any problems and with an ICS update I only see potential problems.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
The PDF on telus' web site was changed:

Android

Device Upgrade* Testing Status Expected in market date**

HTC Amaze 4G 4.0 TELUS acceptance testing June 1st

HTC Desire HD 4.0 OEM not yet submitted July 25th

LG Optimus LTE 4.0 OEM not yet submitted Mid July

LG Shine Plus 2.3 TELUS acceptance testing June 12th

S.E Xperia Ray 4.0 OEM not yet submitted Late June

Samsung Galaxy Note 4.0 OEM not yet submitted Early July

Samsung Galaxy SII X 4.0 TELUS acceptance testing June 12th

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 4.0 OEM not yet submitted Late July

Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 4.0 OEM not yet submitted Late July

see :

http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...92D19E2F2E672442F40200/filename/DOU_May31.pdf

So, as far as canada's 4g is concerned, it's gonna be a while!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] vsniperii:
Telus ICS Updated Schedule

Galaxy Tab 10.1 -> Late July

http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...92D19E2F2E672442F40200/filename/DOU_May31.pdf
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
Aleluuuyaaaa

Nexus Cm9 + Franco
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zooster:
Haha, delay after delay and you still trust Samsung? They are just evaluating tab2 sales to decide if and when release ics. You are so much deceived, and you don't realize lol
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GorillaPimp:
You must be a Samsung employee using reverse psychology.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Just_Another_N00b:
Since when does Samsung apply any form of psychology? Have they ever shown even a glimmer of something 'smart'? Nope.

Hardware is fine, software (theirs) is ho-hum, planning is down the drain. And it is certainly not related to tab2 (sales are, for what I've seen, low), but just low expensing existing customer base, putting (as most other companies do too) most effort in the new products out. To hell with existing customers.

Indeed shame on you Samsung... But it will not have any impact whatever we shout, yell, or do. They will do what they will do. We are the stupid ones, buying their products. So shame on us? I like the tab, I admit.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stubborn_d0nkey:
Google could blackmail them into timely updates, but I'm not sure how mean they'd wanna be about it. Google can't stop them from putting android on their phone, but manufacturers can't put google apps in roms without googles approval, how do you think the muggles would react to an android without the play store (gapps are not ASOP, thats why CM, AOKP and the likes dont include them directly)

Releasing driver source isnt always up to the phone makers, the part manufacturer can also be the cause of it not being released.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
If you want to have any sort of impact on samsung, you should contact THEM, they are not related to this media (XDA Dev).