yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
He is either trolling or he doesn't know what he is talking about (most probably confusing some carrier-personalized ICS ROM with the general, or "open" as they say, ICS ROMs Samsung is going to release which is what most of us need).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] 56789:
This is nothing new. August has always been a possibility. The people (myself included) hoping for a July roll-out were/are merely being optimistic.

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/06/19...rt-galaxy-tab-android-4-0-updates-next-month/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Euroman28:
In the mean time has anyone tried to get the Galaxy tab 2 10.1 ICS rom to work on the Galaxy tab 10.1?

As I understand the except for the Mini-SD card slot the hardware in Galaxy tab 2 10.1 and Galaxy 10.1 are the same?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
No, not the same hardware at all, so unuseable.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
The news was that, according to him, Samsung had officially said that July was no longer a possible realease month.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bbeelzebub:
If they are taking this long, they should just give us a f'ing Jellybean update instead. Considering that JB is 4.1, it shouldn't be that difficult for them to do..... Of course, since we are talking Samsung, not that difficult translates to 10 months.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] twee_jp:
Because we are very Restrained on this foruns! Start sharing in social networks (as I will) about the delay on the part of the samsung and the fact that they * on us. They fight a lot for their aparence! Let's see if they don't release it!

(sorry for my language errors)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Aerys:
It sucks we have to wait such a long time for ICS, ICS is getting old already and we don't even have an official rom yet. Blerh.. getting a Nexus 7.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tomerstern:
Naaa, just give me 4.0 already and Ill be satisfied with that.

Can't wait to start using Chrome already.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sonic Offline:
Spoilers:

It runs like ****.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tomerstern:
What? That's bad news.

Im frustrated by the performance of the browsers I tried (default, both Dolphins, Opera) as they suck compared to desktop browsers, Chrome especially.

Thought the solution would be ICS with Chrome. :(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Aerys:
Try Firefox its pretty slick.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tomerstern:
I get a message that my device doesnt support Firefox. Is that ICS only?

Edit: now I see they wrote the new version is for phones only.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jay Rock:
The new version is not on the Play Store for tablets. You can install it throug Aptoide.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
Personally, I like the stock browser a lot and on KANG ICS it was better and pretty good overall. On the G.Tab my primary browser is the stock browser and the secondary one is Opera (useful for certain things and in certain situations), the reverse on my Note.

I tried Chrome but didn't like it apart from the synchronization stuff with the desktop version but... my primary desktop browser is IE9 so pretty useless that also (and my secondary desktop browser is, once again, Opera which has had desktop/mobile sync for ages).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
Lol? It runs godly... I don't know where have you tried it.. In my gnex and my gnote it flies
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zuberio:
I disagree - it runs great on my GNex. And I even get extra screen-estate after activating the quick controls lab feature.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pngface:
It runs fine on my S3 but I couldn't live with the huge battery drain even when I'm not using it
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
Google just released jb to aosp.. So cm10 on its way xD
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tomerstern:
Thanks a lot!

I find it to be the best overall browser Ive used.

Real smooth, and it has a popup blocker too!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] guardian855:
Chrome runs great for me, I'd try it out before you base everything off of one guy's experience.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tomerstern:
Yeah, Ill try using it when I finally update to ICS on my tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
You watch as it doesn't come out this month. Don't believe, I don't care. Come Aug 1st I'm going to be in here gloating.

P.S. I hope the information I got is wrong but it's straight from Samsung itself.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mickfitz:
How can we not believe someone named L33t Masta? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
Does it cost you so much to indicate the exact source? "From Samsung" means didley-squat.

If it comes from somewhere there is no link for like for example an online chat, at least say so clearly.

Please notice that since they have never said that it will come within the month of July if it indeed comes in August that would still not prove that you are telling the truth.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ginryu:
Well it seems that the update is really comming next mont, well maybe here are some details about the 7.7 ics release and a comment about a samsung tweet where they say most of the updates will come next month.

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/07/10/samsung-start-android-4-0-4-updates-galaxy-tab-7-0-plus/

no choice but to wait :(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zuberio:
I don't understand your disbelief ... his name is l33t masta - that should be enough for anyone. ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Itchiee:
We'll be last since they are going in size order.... How nice.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
SamMobile website --> About us --> "SamMobile is a community fan site dedicated to Samsung."

Jeez...

Ok. I give up.

No, really.

Oh and it seems it is... he and the always plenty other "leet mastas" and uninformed newbies around on the forums.. :laugh:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sonic Offline:
Oh. See, I tried it on the Galaxy Tab 10.1" [wifi version], and seeing as this is the board dedicated to that device, I figured I wouldn't have to specify that kind of information. Apparently, I was mistaken.

Also, @Zuberio: This isn't Myspace. Quote replies go on bottom. Inline reading reduces mistakes n_~
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zuberio:
@Sonic Offline:

With regards to your Tab 10.1 statement - were you running a custom ROM at the time? The reason I mentioned the GNex is because it's running the chrome browser in AOKP Milestone 5 (ICS version of Android). Thus, applicable to how chrome browser would run in ICS. With regards to my own Tab 10.1 - I'm currently running Galaxy Task 14 ROM (HC version of Android) and using the browser that came with it - I can't recall if that would be the Xoom version of the chrome browser or something else. Either way, it's nice and fast and I like it as well.

Thank you for the Myspace comment and telling me how I've been posting wrong for the last 2 years on this forum without anyone else mentioning my grievous sin. While we're helping one another out with posting etiquette, might I suggest that another method of reducing mistakes would be to make less generalized declarative statements with little to no backup; thus avoiding responses you feel are unnecessary.

Finally, out of curiosity, has anyone ever told you that you have a very abrasive online personality?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sonic Offline:
Running one of the nightlies for CM9. I forget which version.

And yes, I get that all the time. Most people don't like it when you just tell them something as opposed to sugarcoating it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
LOL! I come bringing information and all I get is name calling in return. :cool: Keep it classy, XDA.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gonzule:
to me it makes sense that the galaxy tab 10.1 is the last one to get ICS. I mean, the galaxy tab 10.1 2 is the exact same tab, only with an SD card slot and android 4.0. If they update theoriginal GT10.1 to ICS, a lot of people would like to save some money and but it instead of the GT10.1 2. This is just my guess, but sometimes the easy answer is the correct one.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zuberio:
Haters gonna hate.

occam's razor :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BretonGirl:
Can you kiddies take the pissing contest somewhere else and leave this thread for the grownups looking for news on ICS and JB? Good grief.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
:D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
Well, how much actual useful information were you expecting to find in the "Official ICS & JELLY BEAN discussion/speculation thread"..?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] guardian855:
Why would one buy the more expensive Galaxy tab 10.1 over the cheaper Galaxy Tab 2 10.1?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
I don't know elsewhere but here in Italy the 3G versions are sold at the same price.

At the same (or close) price the Tab 10.1 is better than the Tab 2 in several ways: it's thinner, lighter, has way better cameras with a flash too and, to me, it's also better looking.

The strong attractions of the Tab 2 are, to me, the SD slot and, above all, the full phone capabilities.

At the same price and with both having ICS I would be very undecided between the two but I don't get this "they are not releasing ICS because people wouldn't buy the Tab2 then" because I, as a G.Tab 10.1" owner, would NEVER sell my Tab to get a Tab2 just to get ICS sooner and, for that matter, I wouldn't buy a Tab or a Tab 2 at all if I were on the market for a new tablet, today.

Actually, since it's still being sold, if they updated sooner the G.Tab 10.1" it would offer (at similar price points or not) more appealing Samsung products to the public and it would be a win-win for all.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Damager78:
Does anyone know if the sales ban on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the US will affect the ICS update? Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jay Rock:
No we already have announcements by Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Damager78:
Awesome, thanks for the information.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sem0n0mercy:
tab 1 is much better than tab 2 .. i tried both of them ... + tab2 doesn't have flash led and front cam is only VGA and processor isn't tegra II so as u said if the tab 1 get the update ... the tab 2 selling process will die
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] canadaboy37:
Why, hello Jelly Bean...at least the beginnings of it.

https://plus.google.com/116406368499969531740/posts/QGANV7E6sXC

Glad to see this is slowly getting closer. Patience is a virtue.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
Man I still can't wait till August when we get 4.0...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
who cares about 4.0 when pershoot is already working and about to release jb along with cm10
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ElBartoME:
Because there are still some drivers missing or outdated in the recent kernel.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
only camera its missing and some stuff for chrome to run properly.. nothing to fancy... I mean pershoot did an awesome job and that stuff won't stop cm10 to support us.. In fact pershoot is already running jb cm10 on his tab..

so sooner or later Samsung will provide pershoot with the little stuff missing.. In the mean time enjoy jb smoothness so worth it.. camera can go to hell once you see how the tab performance is hell improved even from how it was in ics
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] badogg:
This, 100%.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
Yea...that's the point. Chrome is intended to be the new browser in JB (or I assumed so). Chrome has some amazing features that I personally am still a little pissed about not being able to use. it's Samsung's fault that we're in this state.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
Well the lack of flash makes it kind of limitated. . Personally i need flash for some sport site made of pure flash, so i imagine cm team will provide thw android stock browser for the tab also, present in the galaxy nexus and partially compatible with flash
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] andrewilley:
I'd say mostly useless - about as much good as an iPhone in fact. At present, Flash on websites is a plain simple fact of life, and will be for a number of years yet I suspect.

Andre
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tonk12:
There is a browser with a built-in flash, Skyfire. I know it works because i used when I had my first **** tablet, the cruz tablet, wich was running androind 2.1. I installed skyfire and i was able to enjoy flash content. So flash player can go to hell :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
To be honest I'm not worried about it.. Either Google or cm team will find a workaround
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SWBgHz:
So any new info, or just the same July/August generic timeframe?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Ostrich Egg:
Even if Samsung releases the OTA update soon, it might still be a while before they release the kernel source right? And without the kernel source, CM9 etc. can't get the camera working?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] msedek:
Got some news from cm google+, they say that chrome its a propietary app and is not in the AOSP code so AOSP roms like cm10 wont have chrome as default browser. .

And since flash its semi compatible with stock aosp browser we are ok...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] twee_jp:
Doesnt help for jb experimental?

android-er.blogspot.pt/2012/07/enable-hardware-acceleration-for.html

Or

android-er.blogspot.pt/2012/07/enable-hardware-acceleration-using-java.html

My experience = 0..... So be nice

Op: sorry for reply here but i cant reply on the development part
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Responsibility:
Loving JB in the alpha.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AlwaysLimey:
Joke over. Samsung + my money = never again. They have made it personal. I bought THE ANDROID TAB last year, and waited, and waited. They told me over and over to be patient, I have. Time is up. Never again. Still Android, NEVER SAMSUNG.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sturgeon:
Just noticed that the user guide has been updated as of Friday to include "IceCream" in the title:

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120710_Screen.pdf

Could be just around the corner!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jstockto2000:
there are also a couple of sections in that manual that detail the ICS way of doing things, e.g. adding widgets from the app launcher - fingers crossed!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jeepnutz:
Fight back,Use Social Media for something else than Farmville

Then trash them on every social media site they have a presence on. Are you a member of Samsung nation? Trash them there, Facebook, same deal. I've "liked" them (Samsung mobile, and Samsung) on Facebook. Every time some marketing weenie decides to post something, Galaxy III phone, tablet of any Samsung widget, anything, I post back about Galaxay Tab 10.1 and no ICS. Let everyone outside of XDA know they are horrendously slow on updates.

If I can get one comment in the same vein as my post on their wall, I've done more than waste space here(not that you are wasting space, AlwaysLimey)

illegitimi non carborundum
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] The Root:
They usually post source code the day before the update begins.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] er453r:
So it is happpening... they have not abandoned us :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] guardian855:
Why would you buy something for a future upgrade? When I bought my Galaxy Tab, I bought it for the OS that was running on it at the time, not an OS that may or may not be coming in the future.

Matt Buchanan over at Buzzfeed said it best when talking about Android OS updates "Buy something because you like what it is right now, not because you think it's going to get better, or that one day it'll be what you really wanted it to be."

If you weren't happy with how your Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 was at the time of your purchase, you shouldn't have bought it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] badogg:
This.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] diabolic:
I think its safe to say that nobody will see ICS for their Tabs until they see the Tab 2's in stores in their area (country). Samsung might be ignorant to the fact that their empty promises are pissing people off but they aren't stupid. Asus was the same way. As soon as their Prime was out, and the early adopters had purchased their new tablets they released ICS for the transformer. Samsung will be the same way.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Step666:
This is a forum for smartphones and tablets.

If you want to talk politics, go somewhere else - such discussion is not welcome here.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
They did not do the such with SIII/SII, what makes you beleive they would for the tab?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] shadowxxx:
:( Sorry but my next tablet will not be Samsung ... I think a lack of gratitude that after doing an aggressive marketing promotion of a product, after sales of very large to neglect updates in favor of other new models appeared. OK and they should be sold, but not in this style!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Towle:
I know, I wish I would have taken a picture of the sign when I bought my tab. It said right on there "upgraded soon to ICS"
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Watford John:
Agreed. Meanwhile my wife's Asus Transformer received another firmware update yesterday...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Step666:
I'm also personally inclined to look elsewhere for my next tablet - not because of the firmware (none of my Android devices stay stock for very long and you can pretty much always guarantee Samsung's flagship phones and tablets will get good Dev support) but rather the poor quality of the hardware.

My Tab has a massive Newton Rings smear across it and that's just not good enough IMO.

That said, I would never preclude Samsung from my considerations, merely that if all other factors were equal, I would err on the side of choosing the other brand.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] danielsf:
I also had massive newton rings but I phoned up Samsung UK and they said they would repair it free. The next day a bag arrived and the same day I sent it off. It took 2 days to be repaired and one more for it to arrive back to me. I was considering never getting a Samsung tab again, but it was just so easy to be repaired. Also, my s2 the vibration broke after I had had it for 10 months and a very large drop on concrete, I phoned Samsung uk up and the same thing happened, apart from it took a couple of days longer. But with my old htc desire the screen kept flickering like crazy after I first tuned it on out the box, trying to get htc to repair it was one of the most frustrating things I have ever done. What I am trying to say is, why don't you see it you can get it fixed for free?

Due to the lack of update support, I am inclined to give Samsung tabs a miss in the future, but who to go with next? Obviously not an Ipad, as I can't do anything on it I would want to on it and my app ecosystem is with android. Asus, using tegra 3 SOCs enough said. Acer's looks ugly. Sony, I think all their tabs look ridiculous. Motorola is worth considering. I defiantly wan't another tab after my galaxy tab 10.1, but what? I will probably wait to see what Samsung brings to the market, but with every company there products have a weakness. I can only hope someone will release a perfect tab. I would defiantly get a nexus tab if the specs are good enough. :) I can only dream of a perfect tab, I would love a 2ghz dual or quad core cortex A15 with a Mali-T658 gpu 28nm SOC. With a 10.1 1080p screen, with a 10+ hour battery, and still be very light and thin, if only... Anyway, sorry for the rant :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Step666:
My Tab came from the US so I have no warranty.

Anyway, I'm just waiting for something better to come along and I'll replace my Tab.

I can't see me making it to the end of the year without replacing it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mike2nl:
- Why everybody don't by a tablet for the next 6 month.

- Then the guys will react and do something.

- Because the money is a holy thing for them.

No money:

= no new house

= no new prosche

= only angry customers

= smasung, apple, asus and more then are out of business.

Possible xda must be think to produce a own one will all things we need.

#By a free one with a very good hardware and flash new things and all is good, i hope :p
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] foxmeister:
Not true.

The Prime originally shipped with Honeycomb and was subsequently upgraded to ICS a few weeks later. It's not too surprising that the earlier Transformer was upgraded to ICS after the Prime, but it wasn't too long after.

Even the original Transformer saw an upgrade to 3.2 way before the Samsung, so to tar Asus with the same brush is being unfair to Asus.

As someone who owned a TF101, and owns a TF201 and a Samsung GT10.1, I can assure you that Asus are far better than Samsung at delivering updates!

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] LiverpoolFCfan:
Why do you say that ?

Samsung issue a worldwide warranty as far as I am aware if you are the original purchaser. If you bought it secondhand I guess you are out of luck.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Greg Tolan:
dafuq he just say?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Step666:
Not the original purchaser.

I won it in a competition from a site that's run by one guy - he bought it and posted it to me.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
I'm pretty sure it's math... cause this guy sure isn't going to get a medal for his grasp of either economics or english...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] b1ackh013:
"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it."
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stickjt:
no its not a worldwide warranty,his warranty is only good in usa. i bought mine there also and have screen problems went thru support and contacted samsung. they wont warranty it unless i sent it back to usa then to them.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Euroman28:
So what about global galaxy tab 10.1?? When will they get ICS?

I have a GT 10.1 with 3G and live in Denmark, no ICS update here yet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gardengnome:
Custom ROMs

You should have a look at the developers forums. They are tinkering with the ICS sourcecodes. I'm using 4.0.4 on the Tab for a couple of weeks which is quite the experience of a completly new device. Fact is that the camera isn't working. But most can live with that.

Shame Samsung leaves us waiting. :(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] PFC Hudson:
Can you tell me a bit more please. How and what makes our Sammy tablet so much better on ICS?

I'm in two minds as to whether or not to wait for the official ICS or go for an already existing mod version
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] daniel_fm:
These type of replies are just simple stupid.

My story (Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G - GT-P7500) and others with these tab, so you and others try to understand.

* You buy a tablet, expect it to be good, specially for it's price tag.

* You use it, it works fine at the beginning.

* Without much use (3 days), it starts going sluggish and completely freeze,and that becomes the norm after a bit of use... always.

* Some decite to return it at that point, some more faithful decide to keep it and wait for fixing updates.

* Some people GET OTA and updates in other upgrades and others with similar models get them too, while you in your country GET nothing.

* You decide to root and follow your own path since Samsung seems to not care much, the hardware is fine, but manufacturer STOCK is very far from perfect, some ROMS seem to work great, in my case the best performance and lack of any kind of problems came with a GT-P7510 ROM (no 3g version rom), I tried some 3g roms and for some reasons I don't get such fine performance from them, shame for me.

* Samsung promised and upgrade (since it is obvious their stock software is far from perfect I said It again).

* You wait and wait and get mad at Samsung. Probably just to get some sales off Apple have manufactured a fine hardware with ****ty software, pissing on some customers in the process.

Now that you know the whole story, I just hope you understand how ridiculous and utter stupid is your point about you buy a tablet because you are happy how it is with their software, you never know until you try, and sometimes it also depends where you buy it.

Of course I could have returned it earlier, and that's why I am mad, for giving Samsung too much credit.

So yes, we are waiting and mad at samsung, because we paid a lot for its tablet with ****ty software.