yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
That was a complaint across multiple 2229 ROMS from what I understand. Sadly I cannot confirm this.

But ont he same note....

There is a 2.34 update out. We need to get hunting it down! Just thought of that now... Because I built the kernel off the 2.34 source. So lets get the RUU.

Its a Vodaphone Italy RUU.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Who ever the 5th person to thank post #7665... Thank you! Just bumkped me to 11K :good:

On the same not... Dam! This thread has over 7665 posts?!?!?! Thats a huge ass thread.

IM gonna start telling people to search!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] co.ag.2005:
Glad to.hear this... I had pretty dismal.data speeds today... But that could have just been at&t ( I am hoping they are working on towers to bring LTE finally... One can hope). Let's hope 2.34 helps out a bit
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Yeah, I only heard rumor of this. I cannot confirm this though. Someone mentioned it back int he thread a week or so ago.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rbrugman:
On the lookout. Latest I can find right now is the Vodafone DE 2.33 that's also available on through the forums here. I'll keep looking though. Hopefully it wont be corrupt this time.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Just out of curiosity, why was the thread closed?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
Someone/thing was being investigated by the po po! lol

I dunno thats just what the MOD stated.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bidyut:
Sounds like Final CleanROM V needs a new topic :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vendetta-NY:
Apple was investigating the use of the letters A and L in the rom's title for possible patent infringement. It was a close call.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] papa bewr:
LMFAO TOO FUNNY BROTHER!!!!:D:D:D:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Doesnt even matter....

As they say....

Haters gonna hate!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Mkay.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
If anyone wants to know why the thread was locked PM the mods and ask them.

I don't want to air any dirty laundry in public which is why I redacted what I said a post up. No need to turn this into something its not...

Haters gonna hate!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Dude that is the sweetest unicorn bike i ever did see!!! I think he stole that out of my brother in laws closet!!!!!!!!!!!! Lmfao!!!!

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kancherlapraneeth:
In a day or two.. your thanks meter will cross your number of posts too!! :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
No doubt, that will be cool!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
CleanROM V SP1 is now out!​

Version 5.0 SP1 - 9/5 - Service Pack Only! Not a full ROM!

Fixed: Some devices cannot O/C!

Fixed: Hitting max speeds on boot although not set. This is more controlled but not perfect!

Added: Ability to install Percent Battery Mod!

All fixes need to be tested!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jphilippon:
Just installed SP1. My SetCPU now shows this after a reboot.

Before the SP it would show 1512 as the gray smaller number.

If I adjust the slider, the number changes but that's kind of annoying to do at boot. :p
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Yeah, I know. Im getting it there but its weird man :silly:

Even though I set the boot.img to set to 1.5 / 192 and removed all reference to the scaling in the postboot it still is a little quirky.

Like I said though, still needs to be tested... More controlled but still quirky.

I may have to just set it up to install different max frequencies during install that way the user can select max speed then go back and change it later if they want to go max. Still options on the table... Just need more people testing and providing feedback.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jphilippon:
Yeah, now every time I open SetCPU it shows its at 1.5 but the slider is on 1.7 :confused:

Not trying to be annoying just giving feedback. :D

I wouldn't mind picking the max in aroma if that would stick. :thumbup:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
YEah... Also... can you do this real quick....

Can you clear SetCPU data.

And no, you are not being annoying, this is the feedback I am asking for. I need to know what everyone sees so I can better understand. So keep it coming :good:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Reamer09:
So can these updates be dirty flashed on top of each other like CM10 nightly ROMs? I am getting way to lazy in my flashing days to be reinstalling everything. Even through titanium backup. That's why I always come back to CleanROM, I know it's going to work, and do that damn good.

Edit: please ignore my stupidity. I didn't check the filesize before asking that question.

Edit #2: My phone still isn't holding an O/C, it isn't that important to me, I'm just giving feedback. I am very glad to have the percentage battery back. You have done amazing things with this ROM, Scott.

Sent from my HTC One XL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CheesyNutz:
will test SP1 later today
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 1meanrex:
Same issue here now I can overclock :) it just won't stick :( here's some screenshots.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] htcbrazilian:
Mine overclocks and it sticks after reboot . Running super smooth :p
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
i used nofrills and it sticks. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarRaven:
I always have a hard time getting the link to work to download.

I logged in via browser as well, an the link instead of wanting to save picture of link does not appear.

Help the dumb raven grab 5.0 cleankernel lol

WR

EDIT, got it, morning issues on my end. :)

Nope, I grabbed wrong thing.. what am I missing for CK1.1?

Edit2, old guy got it, testing in progress, thanks Scott.

Sent from a CleanRom-V OneX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] trichrome1:
You know, all you have to do is open setcpu, move the slider back and then back to 199 and click set on boot,,. and it should stick.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarRaven:
Smiles broadly :)

Works better, Antutu still thinks its at stock speeds oddly. (7133 score)

But benchmarkpi, I hit #43 of top 100

Have to play some more, would like a bit more jam lol :)

Sorry if this is clutter to the thread.

WR

Sent from a CleanRom-V OneX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NY_HAMMER:
traditional question, can CR V be installed over 4.5 FINALE without wipe?

Thanks
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 1meanrex:
Doesn't work eventually reverts to stock strangely though undervolting sticks.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Nrod0784:
You can always try but it is not advised.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] plaster:
I have actually tried a ROM based off the 2.34 build. I had the exact same problem. Yesterday I flashed one of Xs's 2.17 based ROMs and had the issue. I flashed your 2.20 rooted ROM again, and everything is good. It has to be a 2.20 Radio conflict.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skunk2 DC:
I flashed the stock battery with EQS but it doesn't seem to work (flashed twice with wiping). It gives you the stock status bar. Flashed the percentage one instead for now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NY_HAMMER:
Just a report.

Flashed over 4.5 FIN, no wipe.

Flashed CR V first, SP1 next with ATT Icons.

All works, setCPU sticks. Even Wi-Fi hotspot is working (was previously enabled as part of clearMods 4.5)

Thanks Scott, you are the man !!!

Can you go back to CoreDroid suite tools for HOX please? I see a lot of people would like that as much as me.

Thanks again.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1819524

does the build.prop changes work in CleanRom?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CheesyNutz:
flashed the sp1 no troubles still very smooth !

would love to see the option to hide taskbar clock
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jphilippon:
Cleared the data, set the OC and rebooted, still not sticking set to 1.5
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] guitarofozz:
Scott, is there anyway you can make a build WITH B/S?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jphilippon:
So this morning I realized after I flashed the SP, I LOST EQS. Weird right? Anyway, dirty flashed V over it and got it back. Just thought I'd share.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] guitarofozz:
the EQS withOUT percent battery in SP1 doesnt actually install quick settings.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jrior001:
SP1 update: OC control stays under control now. I'm not a big OC fan so I was trying to dial it back to some but it would never stick where I set it, always just went to 1.99. With new update it seems to be holding at the assigned limit. Nice work Scott!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] surferjd:
Thanks in advance Scott!

Confirmation number: 3FK73236MJ149842W
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
I tried flashing this like 7 times, everytime its finished it resets back to the recovery? Im attempting it again now. Will report back.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jrior001:
Any chance that 1M mms fix will be added in when this goes final?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] co.ag.2005:
did you then try to reboot system from recovery? this installer also kicks me out to recovery when it's done, but then I just hit reboot system and I'm up rocking and rolling! :good:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
Please
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Looking at the SetCPU for just a moment in time is not really the best way to gauge... I know what it looks on the screen but try this...

Wipe all set cpu data in settings... Then install an app like quadrant or any other benchmark that runs for about a minute or so....

Reboot phone, dial in the settings you want on Set CPU...

Run that benchmark two or three times in a row.

Then go back to set cpu and look at Info -> Time in state then post a screenshot of that.

Thats the best way to gauge O/C stick or not.

Mine does too :good:

No Frills, huh? I used to use that a LOOOONG time ago on my first Android ROM ever. I always liked that program! It just looked cool.

For some reason this kernel doesnt really like Antut as much. I still need to tune the GPU settings yet... But I want to get the stock CPU settings down first. I think Antut will go up when I do that.

I wouldnt do it but you can certainly try.

Yep, I think you are pretty much right! Not sure what to do other than try and extract radio images from someones phone that has those images? Not sure.

Ahhhh Damn!

Good deal and maybe... Like I said, it would be along term goal. And with the fgact that I expect to see Jellybean poppoing soon... All time spent woudlbe wasted. Thats problem with new releases... Every new RUU brings a complete rebuild from scratch. Its like version 1.0 all over again.

Granted we Devs make it look easy, but its really a pain in the ass, lol.

IDK?

And you set Apply on Boot settings, how about if yo dont reboot? Will it stick. See above on how to test it.

MMMMmmmmm.... Maybe! lol :D

Yeah, someone reported earlier about this... I dropped the ball :o

See above....

Yes, its getting better... I think I got one more thing to tune!

Thank you sir!

I need info on it...

Ahhh, yeah, good questiuon? I think he means he reboots and it just loops to recovery maybe? IDK! lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ifiweresolucky:
Thanks for all the hard work. Have enjoyed CR for many months and am looking forward to CR5 final.

Confirmation 77S453394L351282L
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jrior001:
If I recall it was done with xml edits. It was discussed previously in the thread somewhere. I'll search for some more info later tonight if nobody else chimes in before that.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Thank you!

Nope, I remember now....

It was just a default edit to 1000K instead of 600, correct?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Nope, it wouldnt finish installing 100% then would kick me back 2 twrp recovery home screen. I got it though. Very nice scott! The boot ani is tight! And like someone else already stated, ur wallpapers are always dope!!! :D

Good job scott!

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
You know your boy et did the boot anim, right?

He is also a CleanROM Contributor and does our boot anims and some splash screens.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] w0tha:
FYI Scott. I flashed SP1 twice with the EQS Percent Battery mod and when I booted into the phone the notification bar at the top was completely missing. Flashed a third time and this time cleared cache and dalvik cache and all was well in the world. Thanks for the update :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Wierdness!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Yup! :D

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---------- Post added at 06:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:04 PM ----------

Ya, his other teamate has a boot ani thread. The real deal holyfield!!! :D

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jrior001:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29915680

Here was the thread about the mms size edit....from this though it really seams like it just changes the wording of the menu. Will that really change what the phone will accept as mms size?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
I didint see the specifics but yes, it is in that XML file.

That specific XML file is used to provision lots of differnt functions of the phone. I edited it one time b ut did it incorrectly and blew up MMS alltogether so I gave up.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] qwertyaas:
Question, my wifi never stays on over night even with wifi on sleep is set to always. Anyone had that issue?

When I wake up I see wifi was off all night and it's on 4g. Right as I wake it it switches back to wifi.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
It's HTC smartsync. It disables data and wifi between 12 and 7am. There are some apps that can disable it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] qwertyaas:
Ohhh I see, that's... an odd thing for them to add.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Its the only way HOX gets decent battery.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NJGSII:
Twice today when I got a phone call and went to go answer it after a few rings the screen was frozen. None of the regular swipe actions would respond to my touch.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] plaster:
Ok, call me a renegade, or call me stupid, either one fits. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out the low speeds and long connect/ping when using a ROM not based on the 2.20 build. I went ahead and took the no return approach and flashed the 2.29 RUU. Shortly after booting up the ROM, I wanted to kick my own ass. The speed and ping were as horribly slow as ever and I had matching Radio and RIL files. Just for the hell of it, I flashed the original 2.20 kernel, fired it up and guess what happend. Full speed LTE!! All this time it was the kernel causing the problem. I have the 2.29 radio and the 2.29 Ril files, and I'm running CleanRom V with the 2.20 Kernel. I don't get the o/c ability, but I get my mobile internet back.

So Scott, any chance of a custom kernel based off the 2.20 kernel source? ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Try your camera and let me know if it works.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] plaster:
Took a few pictures and a couple short videos. Seems to be working pretty well.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iamlilysdad:
Seriously?

Here's the LINK to the SmartSync Disabler thread. Seems the free version is no longer available.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
Ok, so you are using the 2.20 kernel and signal seems good on this base but the kernel I built from does not? Is that waht you are saying?

Can anyone substantiate?

I was being sarcastic, lol.

But yeah, I know how to disable it... I just have not had time yet...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bidyut:
I had CleanROM 4.5 Final.

Did the following:

Boot to TWRP

Factory Reset

Flash CRV Preview

Flash CRV Preview SP1

Looks like it is over-clocked. Did you expect that to be the case? I thought it was supposed to be clocked at 1.5 by default?

Kernel 3.0.8-CleanKernel-v1.1
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] plaster:
I'll go into more detail. I updated to 2.20 when it first came out. That locks the Radio at 2.20 unless I flash a newer RUU, or OTA. You knew that already, so I'll move on. Since flashing that update, any ROM not based on the 2.20 build (there are only 2, your stock rooted ROM and the OTA ROM) would have absolutely horrible LTE performance. More in ping, or connection time than speed. Say I run speedtest.net on your 2.20 ROM (stock 2.20 kernel, right) I would have an instant ping (20-70ms) and upwards up 45mbps down and 25mbps up. Now I install a ROM not based on 2.20 and of course fastboot flashing the appropriate kernel. I go to run speedtest.net and 99 out of 100 times It never gets a ping. That 1 time it does, it takes about 60+ seconds. The Up and Down were about 25% of the tests run on the 2.20 ROM. I installed the stock 2.20 kernel just for the hell of it. Couldn't hurt. To my surprise it fixed the problem.

Phone calls, and sms worked flawlessy. Anything requiring good bandwidth (Maps, MMS, Web Browsing, etc.) were slow as hell. I did manage to get decent ping from the wap.cingular APN, but the connection was spotty.

I'm in the Houston area, if that means anything.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slippers67:
Your radio is not locked on 2.20. You can fastboot flash the radio partition to any other you choose. I ran the 2.20 RUU and have tried out other radios.

Also, at the moment, I'm using CR V with 2.20 radio and cleankernel, without any network problems, my normal signal strength on LTE, etc. No problems at all.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bidyut:
I'm guessing you have the pta APN?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] edup:
Quick and important question for Scott, is it possible for you to set google as the default contact saving option? It's extremely annoying to have to remember each time you add a contact that you have to set it manually.

If possible that would he very much appreciated
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
MMS MOD

edited sorry (mod updated)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jphilippon:
Have we acknowledged that the SP stock battery with EQS actually does not install EQS?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] srideep:
I am on 4.5 final. I am having a strange problem.

The battery was fully discharged. Since then after I charged it back up, there is no sound. I tried every place...playing music through other apps, games...but nothing. I even tried clearing cache/dalvik cache but no use.

Anyone got any clue? :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bidyut:
If you use the stock icons instead of AT&T icons, it will remember the last address book you saved the contact in. Don't ask why.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] plaster:
It's the only one in the list.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] plaster:
I tried multiple times and was greeted with this error message each time.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pablo11:
You shouldn't be getting an error like that with fastboot flashing.

It's like a locked bootloader type message.....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] edup:
So I have to re flash?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Scott:
I cant find a problem, I just reflashed clean to test out the report and it worked exactly as I planned it. :confused:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pablo11:
I flashed the EQS option and it works fine for me???
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jphilippon:
I tried the SP three times and I never got the EQS. Had to flash V on top of it to get it back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JakeOcn:
It worked for me, untried with my wife's phone and it worked also. Only thing, min freq is not sticking, it's always going back to 384 but I actually selected 192, tried deleting data for set CPU but same thing happened, it just sticks for a couple of minutes
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] edup:
Could you change the default contact saving option to google ?

Having them on phone is extremely annoying, hopefully you can solve this :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] plaster:
I didn't when I was running 1.85. Of course I never tried fastboot, because it could be done via recovery. The recovery option is a no go on any 2.2x based ROM. I don't get the message when flashing boot, or recovery.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
It's been reported that those of us who are on the new hboot can't flash a new radio. That partition is write protected. It will require s-off to get a radio flashed this way.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pablo11:
Yeah, thanks - that makes sense. Lets hope others will read this post :good:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jay661972:
edit: Oops did not see you are trying to flash radio. My bad
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] raptir:
Odd, mine default to Google...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] edup:
Mine is default to Phone , its so annoying, maybe it's because I have an art version, someone wrote before that if you change the icons to non At&t ...

It would he awesome if Scott could set it as a default
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] loneBoat:
I'm still on 4.5, but would like to try V. I see from the OP that this is "based on the latest Asian 2.29 RUU". I don't remember the last RUU I ran, so I figured I'd download it and run it before I flashed CRV. I haven't been following these forums much lately (because I've been so happy with CR4.5!) - Are there any "gotchas" with rooting after an RUU that I might've missed while I've been absent? I think last time I rooted I was on 1.73 so it was pretty easy. Has the root method for whatever the Asian 2.29 comes with been patched? Is it still easy?

Thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bikeracer4487:
Just switched to CR 5 after doing a factory reset, dalvik cache wipe, system wipe, and storage wipe, from CM10. I flashed the SP1 zip immediately after the first zip, and the fastbooted the boot.img from SP1. Anyways, I left it unplugged over night since I've become paranoid of wakelocks, and sure enough, looking at the battery use shows the phone NEVER sleeping and wi-fi on for huge chunks of time, regardless of when the screen was on. Odd thing here, is that the culprit appears to be Google+ with a 10+ hour keep-awake time vs. 15 hours on battery (which still only dipped to 35%, which I'm very pleased with, coming from CM10).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
You don't have to run the ruu. Just flash the rom.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] raptir:
There's no reason to run the RUU. Just flash V from TWRP. If you want to update your radio, do that separately.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] loneBoat:
Huzzah! :laugh:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Rockliveson123:
I think I saw this mentioned. But is there a way to remove the persistent syncing icon. It never goes away....thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarRaven:
Hmm, I guess quote didn't work. This is in regards to Erastes tweak.

I installed after backin up and no mirror or mms option came through.

Wiped DC/C as well right after install

I'm on CR V, what do you think?

Couple reboots perhaps?

WR

Sent from a CleanRom-V OneX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jrior001:
Same results after that mmsmod from Erastes.