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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ste71m:
I can manage 1.5-2 days of usage with my moderate use (3g on, some calls, some sms, little web browsing via wifi)

What seems to drain a lot is web browsing, maybe software is not oprimized
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Hornet331:
Did you even read what I wrote in the first sentence... every site has a different test environment with different parameters, which is ironically the same as user behavior.

And with some usage patterns some people post here, I don't think they will get much better runtime out of similar phones. If longevity is your first priortiy get the razr maxx, won't find currently and smartphone that lasts longer.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
The problem with many sites is the rush to get a review up, for SEO/page ranking. Get it up late, and you'll be on page 3, 4, 5... CNET recently posted its review which was just the hands-on preview copy modified, so they'd effectively written their review from seeing it at the launch event and added a few paragraphs here and there and a rating. I believe they may be able to claim being first with a review, but does the consumer really want that?

I do have some insight into how things work though. Samsung, for example, gave out the Galaxy S III to the first batch of reviewers on a

strict

3-day loan. Is that enough for any of those reviews online to give a good opinion on things after more than a few hours of testing?

What about those little things you notice over a week or so, either great little features that really stand it apart - or can make life with it a misery?

How do you test the battery life away from the office Wi-Fi network with superfast broadband? How about making and receiving calls? Did you even MAKE any calls?

Did you install any other apps and properly set the phone up? If you did, you might not score a device down for having a poor browser when you know that key apps like the browser, gallery etc can easily be replaced. Sure, mention it, but don't mark things down unless switching to another app means losing a certain feature.

For example, the picture-in-picture feature on the GS3 can only work with the stock video player, and it literally just sits a small video window over everything else. Other apps don't resize (they can't) so it's little more than a gimmick as reading an email or web page requires loads of scrolling as the picture obscures a sizeable chunk of screen. Did any reviewers point this out yet?

Finally, the other benefits of a long-term test is noticing that a stiff camera button may well loosen up after a few days/weeks. Certainly my Xperia S camera button isn't stiff and I find it allows me to take pictures far quicker than those people who don't even have a camera button. It's pretty much the sole reason that I, personally, couldn't see myself having a One X or GS3 as my main day-to-day phone.

However, I have to say that with regards to Tech Radar, I think Gareth Beavis (not sure who reviewed the Xperia P) is very thorough. The reviews by The Verge are also very in-depth. Possibly too much so in some cases.. anyone remember the length of the reviews on www.mobile-review.com?! By the time you finished, a newer phone had been released!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] o>c:
As I have mentioned in the previous page, I calibrated the battery and went through a few charge cycles by using the battery monitor widget, now the battery acts differently from the way it was out of the box. Anyone would bother to test with me?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
GSMArena's parameters are alot more closer to the real world scenario atleast for me. The whole flight mode thing really makes the other test very unrealistic.

Everyone has different usage sure but whatever the usage the xperia P is unlikely to give a very good result, if xperia P is lasting 2 days then in similar usage another phone might be lasting 3 days thats the point. I wont agree with your assessment that every other smartphone is similar apart from razr maxx, you can bet something like a galaxy S2 would last considerably longer than the xperia P.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MajestyZ:
Sure, just tell me what to do.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SirRobin78:
Yes, i´m also using the battery monitor widget, my first charge cycles are done. One problem: Today, my P shut down on 50% battery! After connecting the charger it begins to charge from 0%. This is strange!

It´s my second device, the first had 3 bad pixels, now my battery is fault?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MajestyZ:
Have you tried a battery pull already? Keep the Power button + Volume Up button pressed until the device vibrates 3 times in a row.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SirRobin78:
Is this the same as taken out the battery out on models like the arc?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MajestyZ:
Yes it is. It helps "calibrating" the battery sometimes.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SirRobin78:
Calibration is the thing! Maybe my batteri needs some more loading cycles to be exactly?

BTW, here is a screenshot of the battery monitor widget to see what happend this night - and no, flight mode was off!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] o>c:
I downloaded the app, went to calibration, pressed the change button, gave a name and mah of the battery, then drain the battery as much as possible, and charge the phone with the app on, if the main page shows mah values in green letters, usually a few hundred to over one thousand, the phone is charging, the app will show you its estimated mah with some variations. Feel free to share us hints.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Bennachie:
Can this phone make calls? Some tests liken it to the X10 with poor incall quality AND volume.

Phones may be smart and getting smarter but the manufacurers seem to have forgotten about the device's primary function..................:confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SirRobin78:
Please, check my screenshot in the thread above and tell my if this graph is near your system?

In the widget after a 100% charge the remaining time is about 6h5m...this is very short?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] o>c:
:confused:

Can't tell because we might use the phone in different ways

But at 76%, the app shows empty estimation (Entladen in) of 7h18m.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kaizokan:
EP850 + EC480 = Fast charging !?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26658080&postcount=34

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26668869&postcount=36

non sony. Difference in Data cable vs Charge cable with the same charger

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26104561&postcount=15

Quote: "I found that the one that came with my kadigi dock works great, as does the orange tipped one built into the playbook charger. "

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26480851&postcount=45

The Blackberry Playbook charger according to some users is a Beast!! :D

The Xperia P comes with a EC480 cable. The S with a EC600 cable :(

Has anyone tried the EC480 cable with the Xperia S? (and EP850 charger)

EDIT: Xperia S charging with normal EC600 cable from box and EP850 charger => from 0% to 100% in 1h 45m (internet OFF, screen OFF)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zed011:
Got my P yesterday. Took about 12 hours on standby with wifi off for it to drop from 100% to 98% which is like the arc I had.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] o>c:
Well, I will get the BlackBerry charger with a yellow tip then.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] issy_i:
Hey guys, I've just received my contract through mail, the only thing I need to do is to sign it and send it back and then receive my Xperia P.

What should i do! i need more accurate information about battery life! :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kaizokan:
I don't know how good the playbook cable will work. but if you have that cable you could try. the Xperia P already comes with the right cable.

And other than the sony forum support, no one mentioned anything about the cables differences... but reading some post it seems that the Xperia P charges fast! also small battery.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SEFanX10i:
For those with both the S and the P, how do you find the overall display quality on the P ? Does it compare well to the S ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zed011:
Does anyone notice how quiet the P speaker is even on max volume? xLoud barely makes any difference on the P and my arc without xLoud on is noticeably louder than the P both at max volume. When I turn on xLoud on the arc, it is much louder than the P not to mention more crisp sounding because of the treble presence.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Hornet331:
Yes the speaker is quiter, but I have no problems while phoning. Maybe because I turn it quite low on everything to begin with... I don't get the people who have there speaker always on full volume and I can listen to there conversation when in the subway when sitting 2 seat rows behind them...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] issy_i:
Last week i got the Sola with a year contract but the internal speaker is making a cracking noise.. so if i call someone the sound quality is not pure and clear becouse there was always that annoying cracks/ticks in the backround.. i returned it and﻿ got a new one but that one was also making that noise -_-"

And the store where i got it from didnt have a 3rd Sola so the guy ended my contract and everything..

Yesterday i went overhere ... http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/204423#204423

and this guy also havving the same problem but on the P !!

Please can you guys confirm this?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] TheRedStarZ:
yeah i wanna know how the displays on both S n P match up to each other too.

really like the aluminium body of P, but not sure if the S turns out to have a much better screen visually..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rufusj89:
Engadget has their in depth review up ! And guess what the cons are !

:(:(

Short version:

Pros

Superb screen performance outdoors

Confident, solid design

Cons

Battery life disappoints

Stale Gingerbread OS

Mediocre processor

Needs more storage space

Bottomline

The Xperia P stands behind the flagship S, but surprises with better build quality and a superbly visible screen. Placed squarely in the middle of Sony's smartphone line-up, its battery woes are the main concern.

Full Review: www.engadget.com/2012/06/03/sony-xperia-p-review/

This is really sad now. Except for the battery,I don't see anyone bashing the phone outright.. Why Sony why ?! :confused:

Ok,Do any of the people here use the phone at a brightness < 50% !? How good is it at that level ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chch:
Regarding battery time. GSMarena did Browser tests at 50% brightness setting that shows that the Samsung Galaxy S2 lasts 264mins and Xperia P 239mins (9% less).

At 50% brightness the Xperia P is 50% brighter than the Galaxy S2. So at the same level of brightness output the Xperia P should in fact beat the GS2 (even though the S2 is a much more bulky phone with larger battery).

There seems to be a lot of miss information about. Video playback looks battery hungry on the Xperia P and call time is a bit low (note that on new phones the screen will be off during a call so no whitemagic screen saving) but for Browsing the Xperia P should be doing quite well even on it's smaller battery.

Browsing is most of my battery time so this is quite good news.

It is a shame that the Xperia P will suffer bad press from organisations providing poor and deceptive testing and results.

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I read their review too and they also use a 50% brightness setting so the only conclusive conclusion we can get from Engadget's battery test is that they also can't be bothered performing a fair test at the same output and are happy just to give consumers deceptive results.

To answer how bright the phone is at 50% check the table in the GSMarena review here http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_p-review-767p2.php

Note that does not make the phone better or worse that is just the brightness at that 50% arbitrary setting. What is does show is that phones vary by so much testing and comparing at that level is pointless, unprofessional and deceptive.

GSMarena and enGadget come out of those reviews much worse than the phone. That is just sooooo poor

It seems that the best way to sell phones by getting good reviews from really poor phone review sites is by setting your software to have a really low brightness output per UI displayed percentage level. This may be the last we see of a 4th white sub-pixel purely because phone review sites are just too incompetent.

Edit: I just watched the Engadget video. They say that the drawback to WhiteMagic is it's battery life as the 4th subpixel needs to be powered!!!!

What idiots, other that the additional control logic the whole screen is backlit. It's not AMOLED.

I have to conclude that Engadgets conclusion comes from very poor logic. If Engadget themselves were a phone then you would be taking it in for repair.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Hornet331:
Did measure the screen of my P with my spyder3:

A note, some people said they get a green tint.

At around 400cd/m² it seems the phone switches color profiles (that on my phone a 72% brightness).

Im not sure if it is really a color profile or if they activated the white pixels at that level, but with this "profile", yellow get a greenish tint, while the x/y values remain the same the luminance gets reduced quite hefty which makes they yellow look more like green.

But this shouldn't be a problem, since indoor i run my phone with less then 100cd/m² and thats still bright enough.

But the high Brightness comes with a draw back at 100%, black levels are bad with 1,5 and that gets you a contrast of ~510:1. Mainly due to the back light bleeding trough the white sub pixels. None the less it is still the brightest smartphone on the market and usually offers double the luminance of normal phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] AmazingSteve:
I've had my P for a few days, I've noticed a weird pattern on the screen that's only really visible when there's a white/very light background colour (mostly visible when using the web browser).

I'm guessing this is the moire pattern the GSMarena review mentions. I have a couple of questions about it if anyone knows...

1. Is anyone else suffering this or is mine potentially faulty?

2. Is it likely to go away of its own accord in time?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kevinclint:
I have a P but havent quite noticed anything like that. Is is possible for you to post pictures where it might be visible?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chch:
That is weird because it is stated on reviews and from Sony that the phone does over 1000 cd/m2 at the 100% setting.

Check further down the page here for example:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_p-review-767p2.php

Incidentally that table also shows contrast dropping a lot but in a truly bright environment it should not be too perceptible.

Maybe you need to manually change to outdoor mode for the test.

Actually I would guess that the software does not know about the white subpixel and the graph is a bit off.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Hornet331:
Luminance is luminance, the software does not need to know how or what is behind the display, it just measures the resistance in the photo sensor. While the spyder3elite isn't a high end professional sensor, it isn't rock bottom either:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/MonitorCalibrationHardware.html

I don't dispute the test of gsmarena, but from my experience the the spyder3 is pretty reliable and thats what I get for my phone. Still beats any other phone out there.

@ the pattern

I think I know what steve means, try to turn the phone on full brightness in a dark room and let the light of the phone shine onto a wall or any flat surface. You will see a stripe/ripple pattern... I was also baffled by that. Normaly the light is quite uniform, and with the ripple pattern, especial when you wobble the phone you will notice the difference in the lighting and this creates a odd effect similar to a moire effect, but this is only really noticeable on uniform colors, especial white.

Edit: seems this is somehow related to the increased view angles.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] archperia:
To those that have the P, can u tell me how much better does the MH750 earphones sound compared to the old MH650 ? Like the ones the Xperia S came with or the 2011 Xperia phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] AmazingSteve:
This video shows it pretty well (not allowed to post proper links yet :) ).

s136.photobucket.com/albums/q198/stevenmcwee/?action=view&current=fdbb438d.mp4

This was taken in normal daylight conditions with no artificial light. You can see a distinct stripe pattern on the screen. That is visible whenever the screen is displaying a white or very light background but not when it's darker.

The display is set to auto-brightness and power saving mode in the vid but it displays the same characteristics to a greater or lesser extent in all scenarios. It's less noticable at 100% brightness for me but that's probably because it's so eye-searingly bright!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lhphong:
Can anybody upload for me a working .nomedia file?

I tried creating a .nomedia file but it didnt work :(

Thank you
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] inteks:
.nomedia files ARE working. BUT because MSC isnt supported. if you transfer pics via MTP in a folder with .nomedia anyhow they added to gallery/thumbnail !!!

but after a restart they are gone... :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] spluto:
for the weird pattern problem, it was already reported

www . youtube . com/watch?v=nLcnhlw-wJ0
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] issy_i:
So how is the battery:)

is it improving allready or stil sh!tty:)?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ilgreco112:
it's quite good for me, I charge it every 2 days with no emergency (+-30% battery left on 2d day evening)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] issy_i:
Thats amazing, and what have you been doing . Can you post a screenshot?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kevinclint:
I hope my battery gets better just a wee bit. Just enough till I get back home after work. Here's a screenshot of mine. Used it for the third day today.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MajestyZ:
Well I can't imagine the battery life being like that after heavy use. I think there was hardly any browsing or gaming involved.

@ Kevinclint: How long was your screen on time? Tap on "display" to see it.

As for me, I've been using the phone for about 11 days now, battery life did improve, but I'm still hoping it will improve more on future updates.

I've added my screenshots to this post. The screen-on time is 3h 21m 10s. Not bad at all in my opinion.

These screenshots I've added were taken after a day of regular use. I've been gaming for 15-25 min, browsing, alot of texting (whatsapp), Facebook, and some testing with GPS and navigation for about 15 minutes.

I can tell that GPS literally eats battery, so if you're planning to use it for a trip in the car, always use the charger.

I'm not sure about the difference between WiFi or 3G yet. It looks to me that 3G is more battery efficient than WiFi is, but I'm not sure.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kevinclint:
Cant check it now as a new graphs being displayed after charging it. But I checked my Voice calls and it was 2hrs 05mins so I reckon my Display time should have been around 2hrs 10mins.

Besides the calls, played Temple Run and Angry Birds for around 40mins, browsing for around 15mins on GPRS and clicked around 10pictures with the camera.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Hornet331:
The screen is off when you have the phone near your head.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kevinclint:
Yes. But that was not the relation I used when figuring out the time. Wouldnt the display time be proportional to the %age indications?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] simonlant:
I have to charge it over night, every night, I reckon I would be left with about 20% battery left at the end of the day. Heavy WhatsApp use, Facebook, photos, maps, foursquare and browsing, not many calls or long calls.

The battery does seem to be getting better.

side note, my Xperia P had a bit of a moment earlier, it was showing around 20% battery left (by after being on battery for 8 hours or so) and I went to take a few photos and all of a sudden it shut down, there was no <15% warnings, no low battery life. I tried to recover it and absolutely no power at all. Luckily I wasn't far away from a charger, so plugged it in and it started charging at 7%. The display on time is 1hr 45m, and there arent any apps showing significant battery useage. The only odd thing today was that I took a flight and had to turn the device fully off. That shouldn't cause any issues and the battery chart shows nothing significant. Gonna keep an eye on this, but I do recall my Xperia Arc doing exactly the same thing intermittently for the first few weeks, then it settled down.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kweki:
Has anyone noticed any of these on their Xperia P?

- The buttons in the transparent strip are unevenly lit. The return button in my phone is noticeably brighter than the home and menu buttons.

- Turning the headphone plug for about 45 degrees makes it pop off the jack.

- Low cracking noise while listening through the headphones. I can hear the noise whatever headphones I use.

I'm thinking of having my P replaced if these aren't normal.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] issy_i:
Yes i got that too with my Xperia Sola and apperently it happens also on the P

check this out > http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/39038
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Hornet331:
No, the bars represent how much of the battery is consumed by the device, it has no relation to the runtime.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MajestyZ:
- Don't have the issue on my phone, but I can remember someone else who is experiencing something similar: http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3659/imag0012cd.jpg

- Not for me

- Not for me either
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kweki:
Thanks for the pic -- that's exactly the thing I'm talking about (only that the phone in the pic has two bright buttons while mine only has one). I have the silver one too. The other silver unit I was going to get before this one had the same problem as well. The black P that the store had had uneven lighting too, although not as bad as mine.

Do you know if the owner of the P in the pic was able to ask for a replacement?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rufusj89:
CNet Uk s review: http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-xperia-p-review-50007117/

Wonky Sim slot ?! :confused:

Average Build quality ?! :confused:

No difference in sunlight legibility :confused:

Anyone having the phone who would like to address these issues ? :(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cortk:
Sim slot works fine. It takes effort to push the sim card in or to get the sim card out though. Nothing wrong with the slot, just that the slot's a bit too deep (so you need long nails or something else to push the card in)

Build quality... doesn't seem to be a problem. Things to be aware of are that some people say the camera button's a bit tight, and the top and bottom bits of the phone (where the headphone jack is, and below the antenna) are plastic.

Sunlight legibility depends on what brightness setting you're on. If you go 100% I don't think there'd be trouble at all looking at stuff on the screen outdoors.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rayraven:
Wonky Sim Slot:

The cover is a bit flimsy when open, but the slot itself seems fine. Besides, its not like you are going to change a sim everyday is it.

Average Build Quality:

Except the bottom cap part and the top bit with the earphone pin, everything is aluminum and feels really solidly made.

I am using mine without any case and its just fine.

No difference in sunlight legibility:

That is an outright lie, even with the power saving mode enabled, the display is very legible in sunlight. Turn on bright mode and the display is even better in the sun. Although i personally feel the power saving mode itself is too bright.

P.S: On a side note, I've had this thing for about ten days now, and the battery has improved nicely, today with an hour of calls and two hours of music, its at 75% - after 12 hrs from disconnecting the charger. Not bad for a 1300mah battery IMO.