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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
The GSGIII isn't that much "more powerful" when you think about it. Yes, it has much more RAM... that's a given. But after that, the only real spec it wins on is processor and that's not a real big victory anyway... It's going to use some of that extra clock speed to push that huge display and crappy TouchWiz OS so there may not actually be any difference in real-world performance (plus, the Inc 4G may end up being just an underclocked 1.5GHz chip anyway).

Minor spec bumps, nothing that should really make anyone drool.

On a related note, since you said you don't like how comparison articles poo poo all over the Inc 4G, you may enjoy reading my my reply to this post (you'll have to jump past the first guy, who missed the point completely).

To summarize, the difference between the Inc 4G and the SGSIII pretty much comes down to personal preference.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] jaswad23:
Good news?????

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...e-21-galaxy-s3-the-following-week-on-june-28/
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Completely agreed, demarcmj. Your reply to that thread was spot on. The differences in real-world performance will likely be hardly noticeable, considering that the muscle the SGS3 does have over the Inc 4G has few practical applications. (Just a side note: One area in which the SGS3 does win that you didn't mention is GPU, although that is of limited relevance.) The Inc 4G's processor, GPU, and RAM are more than sufficient to make it blaze through web browsing, which is by far the most taxing thing I do on a smartphone. Everything else (SMS, phone calls, email, the like) is already smooth on my Incredible with ICS, so I'd imagine it will only be even better.

jaswad23, I guess that's pretty good news. Separating them by one week does make a bit of a difference, but that lines up pretty well with my perfect storm theory. If Verizon sticks to those release dates, I wouldn't be surprised to see Verizon put a BOGO deal on the Inc 4G with the Razr/Razr Maxx the week of June 28th to make it compete with the SGS3, kind of like what they did with the Incredible when the Fascinate dropped. But that's all speculation.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
I dont want to wait 2 more weeks lol

I do get paid that week though
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Senryo:
Could you clarify this statement please? GSM Arena quotes the Incredible 4g to have the MSM8960, which Samsung also picked for the US version of the Galaxy S III (at least as far as Verizon, and therefore I, am concerned). The only difference is a higher processor clock on the GSIII. I will say that I haven't seen that the Inc4g or SIII specs were 100% confirmed, but I haven't seen anything to dispute these SoC, and therefore the GPU, specs either.

GSM Arena does give a pessimistic release date for the Inc 4g of 3rd quarter. I don't really want to wait until July :(
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] cooldman224:
For the lazy, the newest rumored release date for the Incredible 4g is June 21st.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Oh wow, that's embarrassing. I was mixing up specs between the U.S. and international versions (Snapdragon vs. Exynos). My apologies, it seems that the GPUs are equivalent, although the extra RAM in the SGS3 may also make a difference.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405411,00.asp

Oh good god. Someone tell them to shove it already. Please don't let Verizon see this as another excuse to delay this phone...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
I hate Apple
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
Amen to that.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Senryo:
Ha! Not a problem! I was wondering if you knew something I didn't =)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] LyndenP:
Amen to that amen.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] wpbear:
Me TOOOOOOOOOOO!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] cathya:
wait to upgrade vs. unlimited data

I was hoping for the release this week but see it is now expected to be June 21.

I have an original Incredible that was upgrade eligible last month but I wanted the Incredible 3 due to the small size. My dilemma is that I want to keep my unlimited data plan but am unsure when that may go away if I do not upgrade soon.

Should I upgrade now or wait it out?

Does a pre-order now for the new Samsung keep the unlimited data plan so that I can return for the Inc 3 within the 14 days??

thanks for any insight!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
You should be fine with your unlimited data if you wait till June 21st. Its highly unlikely that they'd make the switch to shared data in the next two weeks without any sort of announcement.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] npompei:
Yeah you will have no problem keeping your unlimited data. In fact, I preordered the Galaxy 3, only because it wont cost me anything! So I figured why not and I was able to keep my unlimited.

Once this Inc4 drops I will go into the store to play with it - my hope is that someone will have a S3 in store so I can compare - I would really like to see these both and feel them in hand.

And if I like the Inc4 I will buy it and cancel my S3 order. Should be simple enough!

Its all about physically handling them first...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
That is true. I have never bought a phone without holding it first. I'm pretty confident I'll like the form factor of the Inc 4G, though, because they seem to have made it as close in design to the original Incredible as possible.

Dimensions of Inc 4G: 4.80 x 2.40 x 0.46 (122 x 61 x 12 mm)

Dimensions of Incredible: 4.63 x 2.30 x 0.47 (117.5 x 58.5 x 11.9 mm)

Despite the slight difference due to the Inc 4G's screen being larger, the phones should have a similar feel. Only difference is a flat, ridged back instead of the bumpy "race car" back on the Inc, which I was never a huge fan of anyway.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] KrisPeezy:
One of the things that I really like about the og Dinc is the "race car" back. It kept the speaker raised off a flat surface, so instead of audio being muffled it was amplified against the surface it was on.

But I'm seriously torn between this and sgs3 because the difference is supposed to be only $50.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] boomn:
I'm not due for an upgrade until September so I guess I'll have plenty of time to see which one gets more dev support :(
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
I'm having a hard time deciding between the two as well. I really need a PHONE though; something that I can easily pull out and can be used easily onehanded. Id also like to use my phone as a music player when walking, jogging, and exercising. While that big HD AMOLED screen with 2gbs of ram and so on would be nice, I'll have a new laptop by then for watching movies and doing gaming and whatnot so I really don't think I need all that. 4" screen will be just fine for watching movies and gaming, it really is the perfect in between size. The dinc4gs design also looks a lot nicer(as long as that HTC logo isn't on the bottom) than the S3's and looks a lot more comfortable to hold. But again 50$ more and I could get the most high end phone available thats about as future proof as can be atm. Its very tempting, and I'll have to hold both in person to see.

I think I'll probably end up going with the Incredible unless it gets delayed again. I need something that can function as a phone/mp3 player first and then a gaming/movie watching device/internet browsing device. A phone needs to be very portable and the GS3 does not look very portable.

I'm also a highschooler and I'd feel very awkward walking around my school carrying such a massive (and ugly) phone.

At the same time I'm trying to convince myself I can put up with the bigger screen because of its awesome specs and large screens are nice for gaming/watching movies/internet browsing.

So yeah, I'll probably get the Dinc4g unless the GS3 isn't as big as it looks. I really hope that new video that was put out today was just an earlier model or a testing device and they don't slap that awkwardly placed HTC logo at the bottom lol.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Stam2000:
I love HTC but I would have wished for the 4.7 inch of the one x. I may actually switch to the gs3. If something better congress from htc I have another upgrade in September so not very concerned
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mclass55:
Looks like this 4 inch screen will be a game winner for the Droid Incredible 4G.

The new iphone will also have a 4 inch screen. So all other phones with those other jumbo screen will just look plain wierd with people holding them up to their head making calls in the future.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/06/how-and-why-apple-will-ship-a-4-inch-iphone-5/
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] slacka-vt:
Now Apple is trying to block the SG3 from entering the country. Should only Apple phones be allowed in the country? Even if the iPhone was the most awesome device ever created (which it certainly is not), I wouldn't buy one just because I think Apple is a bunch of d-bags.

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/business/apple-seeks-to-block-sales-of-samsungs-new-galaxy-phone/522850
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
Can't tell if you're serious or joking. (hoping for the latter)

If 4.3" phones didn't look "plain wierd (sic)" in a world of 3.5" iPhones, then a 4.8" display will look no different compared to a 4" iPhone.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Senryo:
Anytime someone justifies having a 4.5"+ phone I think of this picture I saw back when Dell introduced the Streak as a tablet/phone hybrid thing.

Dell Streak 5!

Yeah I have too much pride/dignity/shame to hold something that large to my head.

4.0" is a main selling point for me. S4/Krait is just icing on the cake. I want something small, so I don't feel like I'm covering my face with glass just to talk on the phone. I also worry about the distance between my mouth and the mic; will people hear me if the phone's too long? I know it's a mini-/hand-held computer with internet and the works, but I'm still going to keep it in my pocket, still going to hold it to my face to call people, and still use it for text-messaging. That's my personal reality check. If your face is long enough for something like that, more power to you.

But I suppose it's all moot if Apple convinces people their patents involve everything.

As far as the apple screen goes... 1136x640? They almost got to 16:9 there. I wonder how much of that will be the static menu/dock at the bottom?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
A 4 inch screen being the optimal size for a phone is what gives the Inc 4G a market. I remember seeing initial announcements of the Dell Streak and thinking initially, "Oh wow, that's a sexy phone!" because the design of the hardware was nice. But when I thought about it practically, there's no way I'd enjoy having a device that large with me all the time. There are times lately when my 3.7 inch Incredible screen feels a little small, but 4 inches is more than enough to compensate. The main selling point of the huge screens on phones is that video-based media like movies or games look good on them, but since I've never watched a movie on my phone in my life and never plan to, it's an obvious choice for me. I think many other people will also see it that way.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] marky2mark:
Actually I wish the DINC 4G had gone with a 4.3" like the One S, but 4" will still look bigger for me coming from the OG DINC. 4.8 just sounds way too big. Plus I really like Sense and have been very happy with the DINC overall so will probably go with the DINC 4G. Have to admit the GS3 is tempting though.

Anybody know if the DINC 4G will be a world phone? I believe the DINC 2 was correct? That would be cool as I'm going to Europe for a couple weeks in Aug.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] LyndenP:
I'm going to assume Verizon will make all their 4g phones coming out World phones.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
It might not be a world phone at release, though, since Verizon seems to be making their phones world phones by OTA update rather than at launch. Might just be phones that are already out though.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] KrisPeezy:
I'm hoping it's a world phone at release, otherwise this should've been in my hands 2 months ago. Vzw delays are ridiculous.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
Looks like signs are arriving for the Dinc4g according to Droid Life. Definitely means release this week or the next
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
That means it could be this Thursday (14th), or the latest next Thursday (21st).

So exciting!

But I'm tempted to get the GSIII after I looked more into it :S
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Well, that confirms at the very least that we'll see the Inc 4G before the GS3 (as the rumor mill had initially expected), so the June 21st date is probably right.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
It'll definitely come out before it, the GSIII doesn't ship out to preorderers until July 9th.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
Actually some sites are saying that it'll ship June 28 and that July 9th date is if there is a delay, which Verizon expected there will be because of the Apple patent disputes.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
Verizon's site is showing 7/9 as the day the GSIII is to ship.

It's also all over the GSIII forum.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
Again, there are some reports that it'll ship on June 28 and that that 7/9 date is a placeholder.

Edit: Also that picture from Droid Life has a samsung stratosphere on it with a "Dad and Grads" picture, meaning that picture indicates a release this week. Unless they're planning on putting up those posters next week after Fathers Day and still use the "Dads and Grads" promotion lol
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] LyndenP:
This
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] doeboy711:
So far nothing has been reported that it will ship on 6/28. Check out the VZW preorder/chat thread. Not one person has mentioned in the 500+ pages about it and they have been bugging the crap out of VZW customer service via calls, chats and in-store meetings.

Do you have any hard evidence to back that up? See this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1692517
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] icon123:
Why is it such a big deal, especially since this thread is about the Inc 4g?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mclass55:
Time is of the essence now. We got until June 28 and that is when we lose are unlimited data plans for a subsidized phone

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...e-21-galaxy-s3-the-following-week-on-june-28/

I just read about that. Please Verizon! Be good to your customers just this one time! Release this phone on the 21st! I'll be extremely disappointed if I waited 3 months for this phone and it was all for nothing. If they release the phone on the 28th, that would be absolutely devious of them...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] wpbear:
The price per line is CRAZY on the new share plan WTF?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] LyndenP:
Yeah. I'm thinking they came in a bit over the top... Work is going to be fun the next few months...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Div033:
So would pre-ordering the Galaxy S3 lock you in to unlimited data?

Also:

Could you upgrade in a week to, say, the Rezound, and then when the Inc 4G/S3 comes out take it back and replace it within the 14 days while retaining unlimited data?

Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] doeboy711:
I am returning my 2 Rezound's to get the SGS3 when it comes out. I bought mine through Costco, so I have a 90 day return policy and was told that I will keep the same plan that I have now. I don't have the unlimited, but I do have the double your data plan on 2 lines.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nattygirl:
I spoke with a verizon rep yesterday and they said the unlimited data plans are still good and can be extended up until August. Also, the shared data plans are optional. Verizon is not forcing anyone to sign up for those plans.

Question. Does best buy typically get new phones when they are released? I signed up for that $50 gift card so I was hoping to renew through them. Also, is that $50 rebate still available?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
Question has anybody ever bought a phone full retail price?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
We really need a direct confirmation from Verizon on this. A lot of people are worried about losing their unlimited data and there are a kazillion rumors going around. They need to blantly outright state if we're going to lose our grandfathered unlimited data on June 28. According to Droid-Life however, we will lose grandfathered unlimited on June 28 unless we pay full retail or preorder the GS3. I'll be preordering the GS3 on the 22nd if the Dinc4G isn't out on the 21st. I guess I'll put up with the larger size....at least its light lol
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] npompei:
Guys, its pretty easy:

1. If you have unlimited now and want a new phone (and have an upgrade to burn) you will need to use it before the 28th OR be put into the burning fire of hell.

2. If you have unlimited and DON'T have an upgrade you will need to buy a phone off contract (non subsidized.) Swappa, Craigslist, Ebay, etc. This can be now or after the 28th, or the burning fire of hell.

3. You can pre-order the Galaxy S3 like I did AND retain your unlimited. I went from 3g to 4g and kept my unlimited (even if Verizon ships this mutha like end of July!)

4. If you have a wife like I do who needs a smartphone, give her your old phone, use her upgrade for your new Dinc4g or S3 and lock her into 2gb for $30 and you to keep your unlimited - then thank me later...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Senryo:
Becareful with "verizon rep" sources... they're often not in the know. So far from what I read about Share Everything Plans specifically "The groundbreaking Share Everything Plans debut on June 28 and will be available to new, as well as existing, customers who may wish to move to the new plans. " "Customers are free to keep their existing plans" to me means if you have a contract before the 28th, you do not get pushed onto the new Share Everything Plan. That said, I've read from Another forum and Droid-Life that pre-ordering the

subsidized

GSIII puts you in a contract right then and there. This makes sense to me, because you are paying for it then, you are signing a contract then, and getting a new phone does not mean signing a new contract. So if your GSIII comes sometime in July, then just activate it and you still have your contract.

Why mention the GSIII? Because a lot of people are worried about their current data contracts. This would be a way to get the contract they want, and then, after the Inc4g comes out (if it comes out after the 28th, the phone-spirits forbid! :eek:), they can sell the GSIII and find an Inc4g they can afford from another source that would work on Verizon. Or if the Inc4g comes out 14 days after the GSIII, the swap would be a $30 charge and then the difference in costs or however that works.

As for the "available until August," yes, I agree with NightxFall, I'd need to see some announcement or statement from Verizon.

And BestBuy does have a lot of phones as they come out, though you may want to go to the store specifically to see if they have it when the Inc4g comes out. The website will be unreliable, as the sites will never properly reflect what the store has due to various legal things that involve taxes, costs, and all that stuff. The $50 gift card deal is definitely still avaiable. As stated on my email for getting a phone from BestBuy, the deal is for this entire year: from 01/01/2012 to 12/31/2012. If you get a phone from them during that time frame, you'll get the $50 gift card. We have a long way to go until that runs out :D
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] kzoodroid:
I'm ticked as my upgrade isn't till July 3rd. If this phone comes out on the 21st I'm going to call and ask for an even earlier upgrade to keep the unlimited data. They've let me upgrade a couple months earlier before when I originally got the Inc as my Eris was crap and I was going on my 4th one. They've also offered me off contract phones for deep discounts off the advertised price before, it just depends upon if you get a good rep on the phone or not. From my experience if you don't like the deal you're getting from the first rep hang up and dial again, let the roulette wheel pick you a better rep to deal with.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] doeboy711:
I am unsure how VZW works, but on Sprint you could buy out your contract and the price is dependant on how long you have left on your contract. Once you buy it out, you can buy any other phone at the discounted price. Maybe VZW will do it and maybe would cost you another $10-30 to do so if they won't do it for free.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] kzoodroid:
I would think you would have to cancel your contract in order to buy it out then sign up for new service which wouldn't be unlimited data. Verizon reps have a lot of leeway to do things it all depends upon how good you are at kissing ass.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] doeboy711:
Well, that's the way a lot of people did it when the Evo 4G LTE came out. They would call Sprint to buy out the remaining time on their contract. It basically means they bought the time left before they hit their 2 yr mark. After they bought it out, it's basically like they just hit their 2 yr mark and are availabe for a new phone upgrade. If I remember correctly, it was about $45 6 months out.

I am unsure if VZW does this since I have only been with them for about 1.5 weeks.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] itsmefu:
I agree. My Inc quit working and the first rep I talked to wasn't very helpful because I didn't have insurance. I called back and talked to a different rep and they mailed me a new phone overnight no questions asked.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PhillyCheez:
wow. this phone better be out before the end of the month.

But I can see verizon been the greedy bastards they are to wait.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Gumby12:
Always get it in writing.

I wanted Currently waiting to upgrade to D Inc 4G LTE. I have two phones to upgrade and the upgrade is eligible on 6/21/2012. So I logged into my account on VZW, started the lame "interactive chat" with the sales reps - verified MY SPECIFIC account information, and then asked them to verify that I could retain unlimited data if I waited to upgrade these two lines at the end of the month 6/29.

They said "yes, you will not lose the unlimited, you will be grandfathered in". So I waited awhile, logged in again - and asked the same of a different rep - to "double check", and they said the same thing. I printed both conversation logs, with their names, time stamp, etc.

To me, this is about as good of an "assurance" as anyone is going to get. Those of you who don't want a phone from Samsung that won't be in your hands until mid July - or hassel with an exchage, should do the same.

That is....IF the D Inc 4 ever gets here. :cool:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
Those chat reps know little to nothing. Talking to a customer service rep would be more of an assurance but still nothing is official unless its from VZW themselves.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] itsmefu:
It sucks this phone has taken so long to be released. I'm going to go ahead and pre-order the GS3 today. Whenever the D'inc 4G is released i'll go to the store and check it out, if I like it i'm going to cancel my pre-order and get it.