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[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
A few of you know me already from my thread where I asked a million questions before attempting to install a custom ROM on my new KF. Well, it still went completely south somehow, so here I am.

So, I'm stuck with the stock Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and and can't get it to go anywhere.

Here's what I did:

Downloaded KFU, installed the drivers, plugged in the Kindle,and ran KFU. ADB status online, boot status 4000.....so everything seemed good, from what I've learned. Also looked in Device manager, and it showed up as Android phone, or whatever it's supposed to say. I figure I'm good to go.

My plan is to install TWRP,FFF, and root it, then boot into TWRP, and flash the ROM. The first thing I did(and it seems wrong now) was try to install FFF, instead of TWRP. I think that's the wrong order, but not totally sure if it matters, but it's my assumption that it does.

So, as soon as I sent the command, for some reason, my computer got this blue screen with some message that I didn't have time to read, because it restarted right after. It still said everything looked good, so I tried again to install FFF. I think the "crash" was just coincidental, because it didn't act like that the second time, but whatever.

Anyway.......said it was installing FFF, and then it went to <waiting for device>

I figured ...ok...need to wait.

After about 10 minutes of waiting, I held the power button down until it turned off, then turned it back on, because someone said that's what you should do if this happens. Well, essentially.....since then, I've not seen anything but the Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and it feels like I've tried everything. A forum member spent some time on the phone with me, and we tried everything he knew.....no luck.

At one point, someone told me to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them, which I did, but upon reinstalling them, nothing changed, and the computer no longer even recognizes it being plugged in as a USB device, the drivers don't show now in device manager, even though I told KFU to reinstall them. To me that's weird, and seems like a major problem, because the computer isn't "seeing" the device, but that's mu humble opinion. I'm at a total loss, and would sure appreciate some help bringing this thing back.

Thanks....immensely, in advance!
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.

If nothing you do results in any change, it's time to give up on Windows and create a Linux LiveUSB. Linux is extremely stable and pretty easy to set up and send adb/fastboot commands with. If you do decide to take that route, Ubuntu is pretty much the standard and version10.4 generally works better than later versions.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
Yeah, that's what I meant.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinfauns:
Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.

You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.

Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.

low->high means it's connecting

high->low means it's disconnecting.

If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.

EDIT: Also do this...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539

Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
I just did exactly what you said......plugged it in, turned it off. Turned volume all the way up, turned it on....no sound of any kind.

The weird part is when I first installed the drivers, I checked it by plugging the device in, and had adb status online, staus 4000, plus I went to the device manager, and I remember two things that said android phone. One said android phone, and the other said android something or other. And, it was seeing the device and everything seemed hunky dory, and I guess at that time it was???

I did uninstall and reinstall the drivers via KFU, and it says it's installing them, but never again have I seen anything in device manger that says Android anything. That is just wrong to me.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
Personally I think you're spinning your wheels with Windows and causing yourself more headache than needed.

Create a bootable Linux LiveUSB on a thumb drive with Ubuntu 10.4 and get Android-SDK installed on it.

[Edit:]fixed spell check fail
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinfauns:
I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.

In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Trust me.....I realized not too long after that I had done the wrong order. I even had a note to myself right here that said:

TWRP

FFF

Root

For the life of me, I don't know why I did FFF first. :o

All the questions I asked, and as anal retentive as I am, I totally screwed that part up, which may be the entire problem. Trust me.......I'm pissed.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Can I ask what Firekit is?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
Firekit is a tool used to fix major problems easily. I would use it as a last resort because there isn't a command for just installing TWRP without the bootloader.. Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
I'll just be honest and tell you that I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't mean that in a bad way.......I'm not some computer whiz that speaks the same language as a lot of you. Right now I wish I had left the freakin thing alone with Go Launcher Ex and called it a day. I'm really pissed off right now....that's not your fault.

I don't suppose that Factory Cable will do anything for this situation, correct? The guy said he will send it ASAP FWIW.

Had to ask.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Can you kindly tell me how I get to the point you're speaking of?

Sorry....this stuff is foreign language to me.

Do I have to install ubuntu on my computer?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.

Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Should I trust this method?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB

I know NOTHING about this.

EDIT: Never mind.......that's another OS......damnit!

Can't I just play dumb, and send it back? I hate to say that, but.....
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
I guess this is it

http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download

:)

^See.......trying as hard as I can to keep a good attitude.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
That will work. Download Ubuntu 10.4
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
There is no 10.4 in the drop down list in the creator. Should I download it manually somewhere else? It allows you to choose a source......iso, zip, or img....or cd, or download. I don't see 10.4 in download list. I canb also let it automatically choose a download.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/

Download 10.4 desktop ISO
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
I386 version unless you are on Win7 64bit
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Thanks......downloading now. It's got over 30 minutes. I still have DSL.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
Ubuntu's severs are slow so it will take a while regardless.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Thanks. Will this be a fairly simple process? I'm running out of patience. I totally regret screwing with this thing. I just bought it and "had to do it", but I'm sorry I did.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
It'll be fairly painless...no worries my friend. Don't get frustrated.

I'm sending you a PM
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Thanks a lot.....I really appreciate this. If this all works, I'll still want to flash a ROM, but if this is a PITA, I won't. I'll just wait to get a real Android tablet later.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
It's a learning process, but once you figure it out, it's really easy.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
And seriously, I know first hand how frustrating computer problems can be. Just relax....I won't let you down.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
You guys I trust.......it's my patience and temper I don't. I didn't HAVE to do this, but I wanted to........and I could easily end up just throwing it against a wall. It pisses me off that I didn't pay better attention of the order, even with a note right there, and after asking ten thousand questions, and feeling pretty good about getting my feet wet.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
It's not your fault...blame Windows
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Well, isn't the fact that I didn't insall TWRP first a big contributing factor?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Oh.....do I want to enable launching LinuxLive in windows?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
No...it's just to protect you from SERIOUSLY bricking your device. This isn't serious.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Oh.....do I want to enable launching LinuxLive in windows? In this Linux Live USB creator?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Well, soupmagnet has been helping me pretty much all day, and no luck. Couldn't get LiveUSB to work on my computer, can't install the drivers manually on my other older dell computer. I could even install the drivers on my wife's older Dell via KFU.....said driver install failed, and the reason was "unsigned", and I clearly remember the warning, and told it to install the drivers anyway. At least it showed up in device manager as unknown device on my wife's old computer, so we had a pulse. I can't get that out of my computer now. And it started out fine....all the drivers were there... everything. Just don't get it.

Looks like I'm sending it back....don't know how that will go. I have the CM7 and Google Apps zip sitting on there. Plus Go Launcher Ex was on there.......everything Amazon will hate. I guess I can hope they let me slide. It's a week old, so I can have one sent before I send this one, and they will send me a return shipping label, but not sure how that will go when someone checks it out.

Plus, I have two email accounts and Facebook on there, with saved passwords and everything........damn, I really blew this one. So much for all my question asking and being so damn careful.....really worked well this time.

soupmagnet.....THANK YOU very much for helping me all day, and also Thepooch....thanks for helping late last night too.

This totally sucks.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
No prob we all just want to see you get it goin windows and drivers damn what a pain
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
What sucks to me is that it was all in place last night before I started.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
If anyone reading this has had any experience returning one of these, knowing full well that they could easily tell you messed with it.......let me know how it turned out.... even via pm, because it seems I'm at that point. Gotta be realistic.

Not sure If that Factory Cable will do any good at this point, but I did get an email a little while ago saying it was shipped. Just throwing that out there.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Also....just for process of elimination, when my wife came home, I tried plugging her Kindle into my computer, the Kindle came on, and there was the little balloon at the bottom, telling me it was installing device drivers, and when it was done, said the device was now ready. Looked at the device manager after I unplugged it, and there are two drivers that say Android phone now too. They haven't been there all day, but they were there last night before I started. Shows that it's not my computer....at least for detecting it. Obviously I simply unplugged hers.....she wants to use hers, not have it be a paperweight.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
But you can plug hers in and check adb status then try plugging yours in to see what you get its worth a shot at least you will be able to determine that adb is up and functioning I was going to recommend that earlier just didn't figure you would have another kindle just laying around lol

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For that matter get the utility to recognize hers and plug yours in to implement the root action

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Doubt it will work it is a long shot would be some fancy trickery tho if it did but presently your bootloader is assumed to be broken maybe advancing that option could be best recourse

I dunno could just be grasping for straws
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
I just plugged hers back in, and ran the utility.....everything was just as it should be, ADB status online, status 4000.... just like last night......further proof that it's all in the device. That's what it looks like to me anyway.

I wasn't going to try any commands on hers, that's for sure.....she's pretty strong, and that Kindle would definitely hurt, hiding me in the head. :)

If anyone gets a brainstorm on this, trust me, I'll all ears!
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
I was more suggesting to plug hers in check device status then swap to your and attempt to implement
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Probably due to lack of sleep, and the willingness to try just about anything at this point, I tried it, but it still can't find the Kindle. It even said....."hey, it was here a couple minutes ago, where did it go?"

I know......corny as hell. I'm trying to maintain a good attitude. I really hope someone has a solution to it not seeing the device.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Oh I know.......just making a joke, lol. I got that look from her like.....you're not going to try anything with mine, are you?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
More or less trying to get kfu to push the files because it thinks all is normal

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Dang you have her gun shy lol:-)
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
I'm pretty sure whatever it was that caused your Blue Screen Of Death when you first tried the KFU caused some sort of hardware damage. It's possible that kinfauns was right and your bootloader got damaged in some way, but without access to Linux there's probably no way to know or fix it.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
It does really bug me that your computer is just blind to the fact that its plugged and how quickly it goes to the kindle fire screen after being powered off. I have question whether its even truly shutting down if it was mine the back would be off and I would disconnect the battery but since its in the state that its in no reason to cause anymore defect
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Everything was cool, and when I typed the command for FFF, as soon as I hit enter, it freaked out......and before I could read the warning, it restarted. So you have a disconnect in there for a second....well, maybe. That whole event wasn't good, it's that simple.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
Your computer or the kindle? I was under the understanding that your PC rebooted on you.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
If I hold the button down, it does a hard shutdown, and goes black.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
It did, but the Kindle was plugged in at the time, so there may have been a brief disconnect during restart, but it's different than powering down, so maybe not.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
Yeah because my PC is very USB boot friendly heck it will even get picky about a open ended cable with nothing attached maybe your computer attempted to boot from your kindle ewwhhh that could mess a lot of things up.

It could certainly do hardware damage
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
It's set to boot from the ssd, so I doubt that.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
Since it's almost impossible to brick one of these, and no matter what happens, there's hardly anything that can't be turned around....does anyone have any kind of solution to this? Please.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinfauns:
Yes. You need a computer running linux because nobody bothered to port the usbboot tool over to Windows. You'll also need to open up the case to enable the device to download a bootloader through USB.

I think soupmagnet told you both of these things... no?

You can also send it to me and I'll try to fix it for you. I've always wanted to get in on the shorting trick fun, but have never gotten the opportunity. If nobody sends me their broken stuff soon, I'm gonna break my own out of spite.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
I'm dying to bust into mine to but not the hard way lol
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leswgnr:
Wow, away for a day and looked what I missed! I feel kinda responsible here also and would like to help but hard to tell exactly what transpired with all the private help going on.

I know with firekit, one can't always get his computer to boot off the USB. Is that what's occurring here, or did it just not solve the problem when used ?

Do we think that this is a real hardware problem caused by the windows reboot in the middle of the process or just that the bootloader is hosed and that firekit or usbboot might help?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
Computer rebooted in the middle of sending fff stuck at kindle fire screen no adb drivers are good
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leswgnr:
Soulweeper I was going to make the same offer as Kinfauns once I caught up on what transpired in the last day. I bow to his superior knowledge however. Unless you reside in my area which might make it easier. Let us know.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
soupmagnet and I tried several times today to get liveusb to boot linux from my computer, and kept getting the message "unable to find a medium with a live system file", so yes, we tried. Opening the case wasn't mentioned really......as we were trying to find out if that was going to be needed. I can't speak for soupmagnet, but I think he was hoping the drivers would work with linux. That was the impression I got.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
I'm in Northern California. I appreciate the offers, and may jump on one. I can do this, but it seemed I can't get linux going on my machine for whatever reason,and that seems very important. And all the fun has gone right out of this. It went south right off the bat, and it really sucks, but I'm self employed, and just got some work after not having any for a while, so I'm a little busy now, and it's not what I want to do late at night. Of course, I hardly got any sleep last night, so maybe tomorrow I'll feel differently about it.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinfauns:
Yeah, I think he was hoping for the best, but because you aren't even able to get Windows to notice that you've connected the device, my gut feeling is that there's something wrong with the bootloader. The only way to fix that is to get the device the accept a bootloader through USB temporarily, so you can flash a new bootloader in its place. The only way to do that is to short a pad on the motherboard to get it into that mode.

I may be wrong and maybe it's a Windows issue that might get resolved if you connect it to a Linux box. I can't be certain of that. Either way, it looks like you need Linux.

EDIT: If you have another hard drive, why don't you just swap drives and do a straight install of Linux?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thepooch:
I'm with ya sleep was minimal
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soupmagnet:
I tried helping him set up his LiveUSB but no matter what we tried, he kept getting the same error: "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"

All signs point to a BIOS problem but there is no way I would have access to such information. A Google search of the problem only makes matters worse because the remedy seems to be different for everybody.

Maybe I'm missing something but I've never encountered that error before so I wouldn't know where to start. Perhaps some of the more knowledgeable Linux users may have an answer.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulweeper51:
My wife's computer( 8+ year old Dell) at least told me it was an unknown device, and it appeared/reappeared in device manager when plugged in/unplugged. But my machine won't even see it at all.

But, my wife plugged her Kindle in to my machine, just for fun, and it saw it, installed the drivers, etc. etc. Ran KFU, ADB status online, statis 4000........you know the drill, and probably read my post. It all points to my Kindle, like you said. Is it strange to you though that it showed up as unknown device on my wife's machine?