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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Po1soNNN:
hi. I was just wondering what you people are getting on your evo 4g. I have a rezound but my dad has this phone and absolutely loves it except for the fact that his battery life is awful. Couldnt last half a day it the world depended on it. so just wondering what your guys are getting on stock and custom roms
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madrox1244:
I'm using mikg ROM version 3.11 very stable and smooth can get around 12 hours on regular battery. But, I spent 6 dollars on eBay and got an extended battery ... I ran it from 100% to 1% 24 hrs 45 min moderate use
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moreno4xl:
Best Rom running right now is from Dev DigitalKarma found in this thread here and his latest version is V6 fast, realible, smooth and battery life for me and easily most users is 1d 1/2 check it out.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChillaDNF:
How did you get so much battery life? I tried it and it was dead with in 2-3 hours! :mad::confused:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dantheman1980:
Hi all

i would like to know if there is a different way to root my kobo vox? To get the google market on it. I try to use the gingerbreak 1.2 but it dont work it. I watch a video on it and it downloaded it for this site. I got the app on my kobo but when i hit the root button it wont work it says it is rooting but it dont install superuser on it and it dont reboot. I let it go all night and in the morning it was still rooting.... I would like to know if there is a different way to do it.. Thanks for any help would be great..

Ps . I rooted a acer liquid phone could i use that i think it was called ...one click root..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] whmcal:
Five months on from buying this machine, I am still majorly impressed and excited by it. I don't think there is a better 7 inch device out there for user experience. I have spent hours checking out other tablets - particularly Samsung 7.7, 7 plus (owned), Sony S (own) and IPad and I always come back to this beast.

Was hesitant to switch to Honeycomb, but now, no regrets. Minimal / no freezes, great display, very user friendly keyboard and editing, unrivalled animation, fast, top design (consider the placement of volume to power buttons on this, compared to samsung's awkward button positioning) and great sound. Forgot to mention, the price is now irresistible. The only issue is the damn battery.

For me, the Flyer is a hit, big time. Interested to know what other long term users think...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jutley:
Well I just got mine today very impressed with it and the spen this is a keeper and I have had a lot of tablets too many to mention.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Paul22000:
For the price, this is the absolute best 7" Android tablet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GMAN1722:
I absolutely loooooove my flyer :D. I got the best buy wifi version when it first came out. And even though i may have over-payed for it i still love it. Really the n-trig feature is what set this apart from all of the other tablets. Without this feature i really couldn't justify this purchase to my wife (she figured it was just another gadget that i wanted). Then after i got it my wife fell in love with the functionality of it and got one herself. Then after that i had at least ten to fifteen coworkers and friends who purchased the flyer/view (even converted some from the dreaded Ipad). However, only one of them actually makes use of XDA and i highly doubt any of them makes use of or cherishes their tablet as much as i do). I know there are those that don't prefer honeycomb but when I switched to it (many thanks to Globatron) to me it opened up even that much more functionality of the tablet (I don't really play games on it). i I also like the current development that has been going on (really looking forward to ICS). Even though I continue to research the upcoming tablets (after all I am still a gadget guy) i don't see myself replacing my flyer any time soon. The only thing I may be interested in is the Galaxy Note due to it being a phone and only as a supplement to my flyer not as a replacement (i really don't want anything over the seven inch form factor). So to summarize as far as i am concern and for my purposes NOTHING BEATS THE FLYER.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] quails:
If you can buy something like this and still love it five months on then it really says something, prices are going down so quick and devices getting faster/smaller.

Personally I bought mine when the UK price went down to £230, half-price, and I still love it, would be great if it were thinner & therefore lighter - I'll keep it for the next 18 months and then swap out. In this world today keeping such a gadget for about 2 years is a major success.

Versus an ipad2, ignoring cost, do I still think the Flyer is the better choice? The Flyer wins because of the pen - for me both devices are great for movies and games, but when it comes to making quick sketches in meetings Flyer wins hands-down, those "capacitive pens" I see people using with the ipad are a complete joke.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
I am happy with my flyer, but maybe not so much with htc. 6 months into having the device I still enjoy it and have avoided any other device purchases since. htc and their failure to market/support the device would probably prevent me from ever buying one of their devices again. If I had paid full price for my flyer I probably would be pissed.

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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] whmcal:
I guess I didn't pay full price either, that's probably why I think this is such a great bargain for all that it does. I cannot believe I forgot to mention how good the pen was! I have the Galaxy Note too. However, for annotation and document highlighting, I only use the flyer. I agree though, that HTC could pull their finger out in terms of support for what is still a relatively new device.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dsf3g:
I just bought a Transformer TF300, so that means I'll probably be using my Flyer a bit less when I'm at home. But the Flyer goes with me everywhere, so she'll still see lots of love (at work, for instance).

At any rate, after 9 months of ownership I still think it's a fabulous device, and am still very impressed with the build quality. No regrets and no immediate plans to upgrade to a newer, faster 7" tablet. Yeah, the day will come, but I'm on no hurry.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jayochs:
i've had it since january, and i still love it. use it almost daily, get great battery life out of it, and i love using the pen to take notes instead of misplacing a bunch of little sticky notes!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vans2:
A few months ago I sold a 7" 64GB Playbook (for a profit) and bought a used 32GB 3G Flyer.

My personal experience is that the Playbook is very good for watching movies. Linking the Playbook to an TV with an HDMI port was also straight forward (just plug it in) so a great media device.

However, I needed a device that had 3G and turn by turn navigation. The Playbook did not provide either of these so I bought the Flyer.

I then found out the the GPS signal on the Flyer looses lock and it cannot find my bluetooth GPS module. Therefore, it does not fulfill one of my principle requirement. Also getting the Flyer to display a movie on a TV is a real pain compared to the Playbook. So for displaying to a TV, the Playbook is better.

The pen on the Flyer is a huge hit with my young daughter. It will keep her happy for hours on a long trip.

So my conclusion

I like the Flyer, it is well made, has a good screen and a good size. Overall I prefer it to the Playbook.

But it is not perfect.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] BishopBlaize:
Had mine for about 8 months now or so. Generally very happy with it.

Certainly 7" is the size for me. 10" is a housebound form factor as far as I'm concerned, watching people trying to watch their iPad while standing on the tube or train is amusing.

That said, I thought Sense for Honeycomb was poor. I went back to Gingerbread, tho I noticed that there are several ICS ports around so I may try one of those.

I also feel like the scene is moving so fast that devices generally have really short lifespans at the moment, in terms of official and community support. We might see 2 more Android versions by the time the device starts getting out of date in terms of tech - I doubt they're gonna come to the Flyer, which means apps and services might not be available for an otherwise viable device.

All in all tho, well worth the investment.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I think I would of gotten the galaxy tab 7.0 plus if i had to do it again. I wanted a honeycomb tablet for around $200 to $300 and i saw the flyer had good specs and honeycomb and went for it. Didn't realize how much the honeycomb update ruins the thing. Now I'm back on gingerbread and while it runs alot better, gingerbread just isn't meant for tablets.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kardain:
I've had mine 10 days shy of a year (purchased May 26, 2011)

The main problem i see is with software support. HTC really dropped the ball by releasing a beta version of HC as the official update. I call it beta due to the gps bug...

If I had to do it over again, I'd have a Samsung or acer 7" tab instead. ICS isn't necessary, just something that works as intended.

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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
That's kinda my thoughts. If hc worked fine I'd be happy with it but it doesn't. It's like taking an old pc and putting vista on it

People say it's just business and I understand not giving us ics because of cost but leaving our tabs in the shape they are is just unacceptable. No reason why they can't just patch honeycomb imo. Personally they better just stay out of the tablet market from now on because I can't speak for everyone but I wouldn't buy another htc tablet!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rangergm:
In the 7 inch market,,the flyer definitely rocks! I had been researching various tablets prior to the flyer's release and had all ready decided it was the one I wanted.

I had been a fan of HTC products for awhile. Their devices are solid and built to last. After owning a flyer for over a year it still works and feels like new. Nothing rattles or is loose in any way.

The processor isn't the fastest but still works great. For me the major selling points where the large capacity battery (4000 mAh) and the scribe pen.

My line of work invloves a lot of handwritten notes and sketches. Nothing even comes close to the flyer.

In addition the size of the flyer is extremely portable and can go with me anywhere. I wish HTC had better support of their tablets, that's my only gripe. Fortunately developers on xda will always find a way.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] whmcal:
Overriding theme seems to be that this is a fantastic tablet, with good durability. However, HTC support (or lack of it) leaves a bitter taste
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
This is my feelings. Like the product but the company appears to not have a clue
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
That's really my thoughts. It's an excellent tablet and honestly its perfect on gingerbread, but to get the extra features honeycomb brings your sacrificing usability and stability. HTC left it in a bad place and wants to pretend it never existed. And now they are banking their whole future on the one series, and already hearing things about it like screwed up multitasking, battery life issues etc. And beats audio... Who cares really? My phone has it and its alot of money spent for an autotuned equalizer setting that only works with wired headphones, which does me no good anyway because I'm using a stereo bluetooth headset. HTC is clueless. They can yield good quality products but they can't support them to save their lives. And the flyer was purely a victim to bad marketing.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] inmnbob:
I love it . I have several tablets and this View works great for me. I use the pen and lecture notes all day long and have the sprint $20 plan when I an not near wifi. I also use google voice so I can have the tablet be a phone too which works great on the plane too.

I can't imagine what features I would want that I don't have with the View.

I am excited about the windows 8 tablets but until then I am good to go. I actually bought two Views...one for backup.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] j510:
I think HTC would respond better for a GPS fix in honeycomb rather than everyone begging for ICS because that just won't happen from HTC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bududroid:
Switching from galaxy S2 cause I like read a ebook then I'm very impressed by HTC specially for the UI and very unique tablet .. have comparing HTC and Samsung tablet but I prefer HTC because of HTC material and sense...

I'm on gingerbread now but still hesitate with OTA update to honeycomb
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ShadowCodeGaming:
So what is this so called GPS bug? I'm gonna buy one soon, should i stay on Gingerbread?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I hear pen options are better on honeycomb but I'd suggest staying on Gingerbread if you don't care about the pen. The Gps is fine on honeycomb if you have a flyer or view with mobile data but hosed on wifi only models. There are 2 ota updates to gingerbread however so update it till it gives you a honeycomb option and then stop
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] CCallahan:
I agree with most all that has been posted. Love the pen features (although I wish the Office suites would add in some pen functionality) and the size of it. Battery life on mine has been stellar especially in standby.

My biggest complaint is how laggy it is running HC. I can live with it but scrolling between panels, rotation, and transitions is just not a great experience. It is a sacrifice to have the better pen apps with HC.

For what I paid for the Flyer, absolutely no regrets.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Great hardware, poor execution by HTC. Samsung has stolen the ball and scored big time with the Galaxy Note.

The update to HC was great to get off the big ass phone look and pen functions. Smooth and steady, but too bad HTC fumbled on support.

Overall it doesn't matter much, As all the cell carriers raise rates and lower your data limits its easy to see the promise of smart phones is over. Back to the days of SMS and voice. The IPhone was just a flash in the pan.......... rest in peace
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] MrS600L:
I love it. Have had no GPS issues on HC, & minimal bugs. But an update would be nice. ICS would be better, but I can't complain.

Hardware is top notch. Haven't found anything with a comparable camera, memory, & processor all in one. Samsung's 3MP cameras aren't good enough. 10" tabs & iPad are too big. Good devices but too big! Reality is a 7" screen is big enough for most tasks on the go, which is what a tab is supposed to cater for.

I have even dropped mine in a bucket of water a month or so ago, & it's still running strong. Lost vibration for a while, but it's back now.

I think the lesson here is if you're buying a product, buy it for what it is, not what it could be. The Flyer is a great 7" tab, enough said. I'm done trying to convince people. It's like trying to convince a Beemer fan that Merc is better. It works for me & that's enough for me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ShadowCodeGaming:
What is wrong with gps on wifi only models??? Please is the europe flyer also the same broken update?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Actually don't quote me on this but I think it's the American model only
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ericvv:
No GPS issues here either bought mine in taipei
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] J3ff:
The GPS on the US version in HC is USELESS!!

It's a damn crime that they released an update that broke the gps. I bought this for my car and boat...... did the update happily and then wanted to chuck it overboard when I can only get a momentary gps lock every 2.5 mins.

Had to go buy an external bluetooth gps. Shame on you HTC for not even caring about this problem.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] killerskincanoe:
^what he said... shame on you HTC.

i have had my flyer roughly only a few months after they came out. so i didn't get the nice price everyone here is talking about. but... it was a gift so i can't complain too much. but i've been happy with its performance. albeit ****ty with HC ... can't wait for ICS to come from the dev community.. it'll run better than whatever HTC would have given us i'm sure.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] NinjaMom:
I still love mine.... :o
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
If i had to do it all again I think I'd get a bigger tablet. 7 inches just seems too much like a big phone. Also not enough real estate for effective note taking. Still for $200 and change a great tablet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I love the size. 7 inches is perfect. plenty larger than a phone and very portable, you can hold it one handed or fit it in your pocket. imo I think 10 inch tabs are too big. I see people with the ipad and think its just massive, to the point you might as well get a laptop. But if you like the flyer and want a larger size might I suggest looking into a jetsteam?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] butterflygirl:
Have the View and love it. GPS works great for me with Copilot
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jsimonson0:
If you think about it, this and a few other things are probably why HTC didn't release the tablet wth HC initially.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ShadowCodeGaming:
Well i have a tomtom, a nexus one and a pda that can do navigation just fine, so i guess i will go for it then. Should be delivered in 2 weeks. :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
The entire tablet phenom is useless. I see the same complaints in every XDA tablet forum. GPS problems, wifi problems, app problems, no support, blah blah blah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Going back to something that really works. Windows Ultrabook PC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
This does appear to be the case. The oem does not appear to respect the investment a tablet owner makes in comparison to a phone. Development for tablets does not appear to be as robust probably due to the high initial cost and smaller user base. I think after this experience if considering another tablet everyone should do so thinking does how it is today should satisfy you, otherwise do not buy
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
dare I say it? Ipad might be the best bet for support. but it is true. Problem is they are pcs built out of smartphone hardware and software, and cell phones are disposable pleasures anyway as most are just trying to make it to their next upgrade date. Manufacturers can't seem to distinguish between the two and teat tablets with the same garbage support they offer their phone customers. difference is most people aren't buying their tabs for 99 cents after 2 year agreement. No sometimes even with a 2 year agreement we're still paying upwards of $500 for them, and we aren't looking for something that'll get us by till out next upgrade date, we're looking at something we want to use for several years, we're looking at it as a PC not a smartphone.

I pretty much planned on rooting my flyer from day one, but still its dissapointing, my overall experience with it in just a few short months. Android manufacturers need to get their heads out of their asses and support their stuff!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
All say android is open source. I think nothing is as closed source as f***ing android.

Take for example any laptop from any brand. We are free to install any version of windows on it.

I always dreamt of android to be like windows installation. If hardware supports any software, it will be easily installable like it does on windows PCs and laptops.

All the f***ing time we are clamouring for next updates and tweaking this and that. This is bull****.

Once google releases New software, it should be installable on all devices that have the hardware to support it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] anthonbob:
Hello everyone. So currently I am considering getting the HTC Flyer. I can get one for around $160 USD (used but in good condition). Is it worth it? I definitely cannot afford new tablets but a used one with decent specs would do. I am about to enter college in the fall and was wondering if this tablet would be useful for this purpose, specifically because of the pen. Does the pen seem more like a gimmick or is it really useful (like with school and professional related tasks). Also, if I do get the HTC Flyer, can you all share what are great apps to make this device extra handy (apps which utilize the pen, notes and documents).

Recommended accessories would also be nice! :) Affordable ones that is. The pen is already sooooo expensive (IMHO) and I WANT it!!!

Is it advisable to update to HC or leave it on Android 2.3? I like the new pen features of HC but it seems HC is buggy (from what I read on this forum) and that isn't favorable when I may be taking notes in college with this thing.

I just want to get a device that would help me all round. Some entertainment here but useful in the classroom. I am on a tight budget (still have to get a laptop :( so please consider that)

I really appreciate everyone's time. I look forward to hearing from you all.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GMAN1722:
you probably would get better and more responses by asking these questions in a new thread.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] j510:
Id still hit
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] anthonbob:
@ GMAN1722. I made a new thread. Hoping to get some feedback :)

@j510. Thanks. Can you give me a little more input on the tablet? Really don't want to regret the purchase. I've read a ton of reviews for this thing but I would like to hear reviews from people who used this thing for months as opposed to weeks or days. It has to last me for a long while!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Archer1632:
Well...

I can honestly say after going through my Apple period with my iPad... (pun intended)... Then seriously checking the android tablet options available and as soon as I saw the original video for the Flyer I had to have one. Then the Evo View came out and I couldn't resist. more storage space and the option for a data plan. Plus the pen really is the deal breaker. No other device has the functionality with a native pen that this one does. The fact that it is pressure sensitive and there are many apps that were developed to utilize that function make the pen that much more enticing. I use it for school, work, and play. The only downside is that the HTC Sketch app that was supposed to launch with the tablet was never finished. The whole being able to draw and then replay the drawing as a video of it being drawn would have been nice. All in all I would have to say that without the pen this tablet is just like a giant Evo 3d... minus the 3d function it essentially has the same hardware. The pen really takes it to the next level. No other tablet comes close in my mind.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I wanna touch on that, Google's goal with android was to make it flexible and easy to update, the way they made it sound was any old device could just be updated like you update you pc to the newest windows. wtf happened?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
If a device really doesn't support ics, like the ones launched in early android phase, I can understand and accept this as device incompatible fact. But a device like flyer which has more than the requisite hardware for ics and they say its incompatible with ics, is just plain lying in our face brazenly.

It's pure money game now, at least for companies like HTC, Samsung, Sony and LG.

In India and China $100 tablets are now coming with ics. (capacitive screen, nice processor, 1080p playback and hdmi support etc.)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
htc tried tablets, they failed to market the devices and or gain market share. They are floundering in general and are seeing their position in the mobile device market fall appart. They have decided to move away from tablets. I do not think we will even see another security patch for HC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I gotta call it how it is. HTC is lazy. How much money would it honestly cost? I mean really? They already have a working ICS rom, ala the One V. Exact same hardware, minus half the ram, and the front facing camera.