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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kumiteking:
just a bump
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
Samsung is incredibly slow with updates. I had the note for AT&T and no ics yet. Samsung just started to update their first phone to ics like this week. HTC has a couple ics devices out.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Cryosx:
The official updates on att for Samsung are always slow. But if you're on xda should that really matter? The only one restricting your phone for greater potential is yourself.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] viny2cool:
People saying samsung updates are slow should consider that all international samsung devices have fastest updates....its just Samsung devices on ATT which are slow on updates....

Biggest advantage of having samsung devices is unlocked bootloader (never had any issues with BL) and support to dev community (Samsung gave free gs2 to CM dev).

ATT is biggest road block for updates, its part of their some weird strategy...atleast on samsung phones we can update using xda dev's magic....

Also people saying GS3 is hype are somewhat wrong too...both GS3 and HOX are on par...each one has their advantages and disadvantages...I mean no multitasking in an android phone with locked BL stands no where infront of over hyped easily hackable GS3....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 05GT:
I love my HOX. I had to swap my white one for the grey because of my upcoming job, but the phone is freaking awesome.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tylerdurdin:
that's fair.....but a lot of stuff surfacing about the GS3 is starting to make it seem alot more real life also....like battery life....that phone lasts a full day like every other phone. Samsung phones are the best but this is also going to he the first time we get one and have no international Kernel source....if it wasnt for The I9100 we still wouldn't have a stable ICS. I am sure development will be fine but slow sources are going to cripple a bit. I still think the Huawei Ascend D XL is going to own every phone lol.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mrvirginia:
is the Huawei coming to the states though? is it LTE compatible? these are things you have to factor in. having a fast phone chip-wise doesn't mean very much if the network you're on is slow. this is the reason why i moved from an international GNex to the HOX... LTE. in my eyes the GS3 is the closest competitor for us here stateside. then you factor in a 4.8" screen at less dpi with the potential for banding and the HOX looks like the winner here. they do both have their positives and negatives, though.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.

I don't know where you live, but I find HSPA+ to be plenty fast for me. LTE is sweet, but I'm getting 5 mbps most places where i live on my Gnex and that's good enough for me. I know not everyone has it that fast and LTE is a huge upgrade, but it's all relative. I convinced the girlfriend to drop her LTE Verizon phone (Charge) in favor of an iPhone and she couldn't be happier. Yeah, stuff downloads slower, but everything just works and battery life is great and that's what matters to her.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
Tough crowd. ;)

I'm still waiting for someone to explain the harm that this causes. If it's performing as designed this is what it's supposed to look like...

"Once Android determines that it needs to remove a process, it does this brutally, simply force-killing it. The kernel can then immediately reclaim all resources needed by the process, without relying on that application being well written and responsive to a polite request to exit. Allowing the kernel to immediately reclaim application resources makes it a lot easier to avoid serious out of memory situations.

If a user later returns to an application that's been killed, Android needs a way to re-launch it in the same state as it was last seen, to preserve the "all applications are running all of the time" experience. This is done by keeping track of the parts of the application the user is aware of (the Activities), and re-starting them with information about the last state they were seen in. This last state is generated each time the user leaves that part of the application, not when it is killed, so that the kernel can later freely kill it without depending on the application to respond correctly at that point."

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html

If apps are well written whether they've been kept in state or re-launch you shouldn’t notice a difference on a powerful processor. For apps that aren't, and restart w/o retaining their previous state, how much effort does it really take to get back to where you were? And I'd guess I'm truly working in two apps simultaneously about 15-20% of the time. And because of the large size of HTC’s recent apps, a lot of times I can get what I’m looking for (phone numbers, addresses, and references) without having to invoke the app at all. I'd be curious to understand the percentage of time those seeing this as a large issue spend actively in multiple applications. And what the negative impact is if an app has to restart assuming it behaves as Google intended it to. I’m not defending the way it’s currently implemented, just a bit confused as to why it’s such a big deal.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] louis.b:
so much drama over a phone. If you dont like it return it, why keep it just to complain?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] designgears:
I won't return mine, its a nice phone. Aside from the locked bootloader and multitasking issues, I can't complain.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] louis.b:
Sir you got my absolute respect following your posts in HOX's threads.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] arnelolavides:
I like my OneX and must be the best phone out there. Jeez!! I Got 4995 on quadrant!I dont care if the bootloader is still locked cause I'm pretty sure the Devs are doing good lookingfor solution
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kravguy:
Other than the locked bootloader, only thing that I can complain about is the white is starting to have dark 'splotches', I don't know how else to say it, from being in my holster. Anyone want to suggest a good cleaning solution ?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] imstill@g:
That may be the best news I have heard all day.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tylerdurdin:
glad this forum is getting brighter....every forum on the web right now is crying about this phone.....Oddly enough....it is AMAZING how many Gnex guys took this phone for a spin and are crying about bugs.....they just had their own Antenna Gate BS .....I can't imagine owning a Nexus and having the sack to cry about THIS phone. Anyone have any issue with their HOX not being able to keep a data signal......oh wait....wrong forum....wrong phone.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] XAviierG:
Agreed
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
The international forum makes me want to get a SGS3 just to get away from them. Never in all my time on XDA have I seen more whining and complaining about so little. Like the XL has radio issues, the X has graphics drivers issues. You guys (for the most part) are waiting patiently knowing it's going to get updated. Even though HTC UK has said they've identified and are working on a fix for the graphics issues on the X, there are 20 new OMG! posts a day. Kill me.

A couple of friends moved from the GN and are relatively happy. Those staying are desperate to convince themselves that the phone's still a "flagship." The SGS3 display is about 30% brighter and both the One X and SGS3 have SoC's they can only aspire to. At the end of the day, h/w lives forever whereas s/w comes and goes. The GN's a great deal at $399 outright and how can anyone argue with the upside of a pure-Google device, but, like aging movies stars (except Betty White), her time's come and gone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
I'm pretty sure everybody loves their HTC one x. I talked to a friend who works at a local att and nobody has returned theirs. The people on xda just love to whine about every little thing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mike21pr:
For Android support and updates, HTC is the way to go. HTC Vivid ICS Official Update vs SGS2 and Skyrocket still waiting is reason enough to stick with them.

My HTC One X IMO is oozing awesome, its not perfect but close enough for me (the pickiest phone guy i know) to stay happy for a good while, 720p SLCD2 screen makes me giggle with joy, and my benchmarks gives me a fuzzy feeling inside.

Plus, US variants of the SGS3 will have the same internals as ours (S4, 1GB RAM, 8mp cam, 720p screen) so it comes down to design, sense vs touchwiz, and support. Frankly, HTC wins all three in my eyes so its a keeper

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Nickel Dime Bay:
Just got mine today off contract, I love this phone!!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
I am.. I cant run runkeeper (auto pause enable) and take pictures at the same time during my bike rides. My samsung captivate could handle the multitasking better.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Hey, genius: Every forum is "crying about bugs" and you don't think there might be something to that? So if a thousand people are talking about a phone having the same problem, it must be them, right? Rocket science.

The GN has a software bug that affected reception. It was squashed by an update. The broken multitasking on the One X is very real and HTC has said it is as intended, so a software update will not be fixing it. Huge difference.

I don't know if you don't have this phone and you're just talking out of your ass, or if you have it and you're just clueless. Even if you rarely use multitasking, this issue will affect you. You can't even switch between two apps without them reloading and losing state. That means reset game progress, video streaming, music streaming, etc.

Out of the dozens of phones i have had over the years, I have never seen a worse implementation. Even WP7 handles multitasking better, as does iOS. I don't care how long the battery lasts on this phone if I can't use it the way I want to use it. It's barely better than a feature phone with the multitasking crippled like it is.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] niceppl:
return it get a rogers one...:D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phositadc:
I share this sentiment. People without bugs come into these threads and act as if the bugs must not exist since they are not personally experiencing them.

Open your eyes, people. Dozens of people are here discussing these things. HTC has even acknowledged some of the bugs. They exist. And some of them affect very basic functions of the phone. The wifi bug? Push email bug? Gimme a break. These are things that should just work.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] louis.b:
I take that you have returned it. Then move on w your life already.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] blaine.hale:
Love that everyone is *****ing about software issues.

Why not be PATIENT and wait for a good rom or voice command app.

There's nothing wrong with the HTC hardware. If you're thinking about the SG3 over this device then you might want to look at Samsungs history a bit more. Hardware failure that was mentioned with GPS etc, incredibly slow to update their phones, really really cheap plasticky build quality, pen tile screen, just a god awful UI that you'll STILL have to wait to unlock and slap a rom on. At least Sense is much more tolerable until the boot loader is unlocked. The greatest benefit of the Samsung line is the unlocked boot loader and dev community. The HOX is going to receive very similar attention with how popular a phone it is, just give a bit ;)

If you're unhappy with the HOX, then by all means, return it...just don't expect the SG3 will make you happy. At that point, you should just go back to the iphone for a completely different experience.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
I love the phone but I am thinking of returning because of the battery life. Maybe exchange it for another HTC one x. Suddenly my battery life has gone to ****. Overnight idle is 30% drain. I just don't understand it. It's my first android phone so maybe I'm doing something wrong. But I can't figure it out.

Can someone tell me if it's a defective battery or this is the normal discharge.

HSpa+. WiFi off during sleep. Weather,Twitter,other widgets sync set to manual. One gmail account set to push.

Battery indicator widget in notification bar.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] viny2cool:
Agreed...Captivate still rocks..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] blaine.hale:
Hmm, that really doesn't sound right to me. Try looking for a battery thread (there are tons in the general section.) After going through the obligatory 2 or so full discharge and charge cycles upon getting the phone, if I leave my phone off the charger all night with wifi ON, I don't even come close to the power loss you're seeing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phositadc:
Haven't returned it yet... Hoping for an official ota before my 30 days are up. Btw, do you see the title of this thread? I think I belong in here more than you do, so if you aren't thinking about returning yours, why don't you GTFO.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tylerdurdin:
Hey Genius....no....I take that back.....because you are CLEARLY not one. Did i say here was no issue? I was just referring to the fact that all you guys are doing is going all over the web and CRYING AND CRYING. Especially the guys with the Gnex. You are arguing my case with the "signal bug fix" in the Gnex....what so because it got fixed we pretend hat phone never had a issue? Go play hypocrites advocate in the Gnex forum and don't bring your smug comments to me bro.

The issue will get fixed....now scurry along.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kumiteking:
Still deciding if returning or not, rep said I have until 6-4 to do it. would like to keep it if unlocked and bugs were fixed. If not looking at the SC3 the skyrocket or note also kinda like the windows phone titan 2. Thoughts on those other phones from people who have them?

Thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
Man, what is it with you and childish name calling? Can you not just have a normal conversation without coming across as a middle school child? Apparently I'm not the only one tired of your multi thread complaining. Can't wait for you to get rid of your one x and go back to your gnex forums.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tylerdurdin:
lol...thank you....

And for the record all the whining about this device and there is NOT ONE THREAD OR TOPIC ON HTCs SUPPORT FORUM.....so all the whining is here.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
Yea, that's pretty much what I figured. I had the gnex for quite a while before this phone and I can say that the battery was garbage compared to this...the screen as well. Very dark compared to the one x...if you bumped brightness up to equal this phone then battery may get to 2-3 hours screen on time if you were lucky. Camera sucked as well...and it was all plastic and felt cheap. But there were no bugs...lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] coolren:
agree........i had all those phones too and a couple more, and even with the bugs, i think this phone is a keeper
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Oogy:
Miss my cm9 captivate every day I use this thing, never expected that. though to be fair I disliked the galaxy note I had for a week much more intensely
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
I called HTC customer service about the multitasking and basically it is my fault for trying to multitask on a phone that is not design for multitasking.

It was the worst customer service ever.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mets3214:
I've had the phone for a day and a half. I still have to use the phone more to get a feel for the battery life and if its enough for me. I would have liked the volume button to be on the left side and its not the easiest button to press. The phone is a bit big and kills all 1 handed usability so I have to get used to that. Software issues that I have been experiencing was the multitasking issue, push notifications, and text message notifications on the lock screen only show the contacts number, not the name. I also experienced some wifi problems as it would just turn off randomly. I also hate the low storage option with no expandable memory as I will have to use a PMP again.... Well I got until the 27th to return it and keep my upgrade but I LOVE everything else about this phone.

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That's horrible, my experience with HTC's customer service when I had the Nexus One was stellar though.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sm753:
Going to have to stop you right there. At least "spec" wise...the HTC One X has the better camera.

Personally, the only thing I've admired about Samsung phones was their (usually) outstanding battery life. I think Sense is far superior to Touchwiz, I don't like Samsung's build quality either...their phones feel light, cheap, and plasticy.

Wait and see I guess - I'm not writing off the Samsung GS3 off entirely yet...my upgrade eligibility isn't up until July so it'll be between the One X and the GS3.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] StrykerGT:
Please give me the link to the support forum. I'm going to post there. I'm in love with phone but the multitasking problem is killing me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
From: "AT&T Email Business Customer Care for Wireless" <icare301@amcustomercare.att-mail.com>

Date: May 15, 2012 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: Wireless from AT&T Customer Email - Southeast - [TECH] (KMM43089317V95856L0KM)

I agree some of the issues are because of third party software, but the aggressive memory management is HTC android implementation for multitask.

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-...tasking-85598/

It is a shame the phone was not properly tested by you (ATT) before being released and because of the lack of a work around solution (ATT requested HTC to lock the bootloader) it is limited my resources to ask for help.

I have concluded that I will have to return this unit. I am unhappy paying for unit that can perform the same tasks than my old captivate.

Thanks for your help.

From: Gustavo Gomez [mailto:mgfjd12@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:05 PM

To: Gomez, Gustavo

Subject: Fwd: Re: Wireless from AT&T Customer Email - Southeast - [TECH] (KMM43089317V95856L0KM)

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: "AT&T Email Business Customer Care for Wireless" <icare301@amcustomercare.att-mail.com>

Date: May 15, 2012 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: Wireless from AT&T Customer Email - Southeast - [TECH] (KMM43089317V95856L0KM)

To: "Gustavo Gomez" <mgfjd12@gmail.com>

Dear Gustavo,

Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is

Samie and I appreciate the opportunity to address your inquiry today.

I completely understand your concern in regards to the HTC device.

We do appreciate and understand your concerns with the device; however

most of the issues you've described have to do with the interoperational

technical capabilities of the device or compatibility of the device

operating system with third party software. While we don't have an

estimated timeframe when a software update will be available for the

unit, given the nature of your concerns, it may be prudent to confer

with HTC (as the device manufacturer) to determine if any alternative

solutions exist in the interlude.

I do apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused you.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ThisWasATriumph:
Seriously considering it lately... If the bootloader is not unlocked soon it will be returned. My captivate has awesome development going on still, and I'd trade the better screen and such to have that back until something happens here or another phone is released that isn't screwed over by Att.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
As much as I like this device I'm thinking that the gsm galaxy nexus is a better choice for me. As flawless as my inspire was I expected the same experience on the HOX. It falls short for me. I'm disappointed.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ComposMentis:
Tried to switch from iPhone...

I got this phone on the day of launch and instantly fell in love with the screen. Coming from a 3.5" screen on the iPhone this screen is just amazing. It is my first Android based phone after using an iPhone for four years. I lived through iOS 3, 4, and finally 5, jailbreaking along the way and suffered through waiting for features that other phones enjoyed like MMS, multi-tasking and notifications.

Android took a day or so to get used to, but it is far more polished than I expected. The integration with Google and social networking is fantastic. With the exception of very loose app design guidelines for third party developers I think the core Android functionality is on par with iOS when it comes to ease of use and attractiveness.

In the end I'm taking the One X back until either HTC irons the bugs out or a phone with a similar amazing screen and thin form factor comes along that can run stock Android. This isn't a rejection of Android, it's a rejection of the mutilation of Android by HTC. The WiFi bug is unacceptable at a time when I'm getting notices from AT&T just about every month that my data usage is approaching 3gb. The lack of multitasking is a deal breaker when I rely on app timers like my gym app that resets the rest timer if I go to Pandora to switch the song. Pandora doesn't play nice with the One X either, often stopping a song after 2 seconds and then skipping it... or pausing for up to a minute randomly then starting a song. I have to admit the AT&T messages app is amazing for a carrier app. The voicemail transcription is really useful and having all communication (messages, calls, voicemails) in one app is handy.

In the end I don't really care whose fault it is (HTC, AT&T, Google). I just want the phone to do what I want and be reliable and the One X isn't there yet. I'll probably hold off taking it back for a week or so to see if they release an update. Now that the One X is held up in customs it may be worth selling it if demand sends the price up.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I have to admit I'm looking at the nitro hd.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Cryosx:
It would seem that HTC released an update that adresses the multitasking issues we're having (for the international version of course). If you can wait until your 31 (or is it 14?) days are over than wait. If boot loader is ever unlocked or bypassed we should eventually see miui, cm9, and aokp on the hox, solving our multitasking problems (I think, not sure).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] King Shady:
Are you crazy?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
No. It's got a gorgeous screen and cm9.