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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
It is a proper rip-off.. It pisses me off when they have the rights to copy Android but get sooo butt-hurt and start filing lawsuits when Samsung and others apparently copy some stupid apps from iPhone. And the audacity to call it "new", "innovative" or similar other grandiose adjectives.. I still remember Steve Jobs saying about the Facetime that "we invented video-calling!" LMAO! I'm sure they duped the audience with similar marketing BS..

Oh and they have colors too! iPhone 5s and the tame 5c with colors! whoa! :p I'm sure this will be confusing to the iSheep.

P.S: While I love to rip on the iSheep, I remember the crap we go thru to get the latest updates... I've finally come to the point where I simply wanna say f$#k this sh!t... I am tired and bored. give me a dumb phone again.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
one thing apple does right is the way they update their os on older gen phones. as soon as a new version is released last years models are updated. no waiting for Verizon to bend you over to get the update or sucking HTCs d!ck to get kernel source that will never be released
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Just got a brand new device... Replacing an old and ill-fated Transformer Prime with...

... Galaxy Note 8.0!

:D
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mdmower:
ill fated? Did the power button fail?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
That device was ill-fated in general. Right from inception, Asus endowed it with the worst internals ever, such crappy eMMC was used inside it that merely updating apps brought the tablet to a crawl! :eek: Doesn't matter if it had a quad-core or a bazillion cores. It was and will always be sluggish. So, I sold it!

So far so awesome with the Galaxy Note 8. I am gonna keep it stock as I really bought it for the S-pen! I am going to take all notes on this from now on.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] rafey3.0:
Hi, so Im this complete noob in the android department and I really need help. I have a Verizon HTC droid incredible 4G LTE (Korean) and its running on JB( I really dont know which ROM is it). now the thing is that as I got this from someone who was a noob himself, he didn't update the sense so its basically 3.6. I researched a bit and tried updating but my recovery would not detect the file(bootloader's unlocked though). I tried rooting the device but it said I needed something called and insecure boot image which I tried flashing but the bootloader failed to detect the file.I really dont know what to do at the moment.

my software details:

android version-4.2.1

sense version-3.6

sofware number-4.03.605.2 710 RD

kernel version-3.0 16-g480e1b0 htc kernel@u18000-build-144#1

baseband version- 2.22.100801r, 2.22.10.0803r

Again, I apologize for my stupidity. help would be really appreciated :D
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mdmower:
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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demid30:
Anyone know if we can download the new HTC software update ota that just came out? A notification just popped up with a new ota update...I don't know if I can download it since I'm rooted/s-off running viper Rom.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dafuzzbudd:
Pretty sure anything OTA is a big no-no for roots.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
What Android version is this update?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mdmower:
Ignore dafuzzbudd, he's just trying to inflate his post count. There is no OTA, and the Viper OTA bug has already been discussed.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
Nexus 5 is out anyone getting one?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
You'll have to ditch verizon to do so. I am in half a mind to do just that. I can't take this Verizon BS any longer.. the next time I feel like upgrading my phone, I'll surely ditch Verizon.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
Why won't Verizon work? Just curious bc I'm about to dump Verizon with all this Afghan money ;)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Verizon is not an officially supported carrier. Even if the phone had the correct bands for Verizon's LTE and voice services, still Verizon needs to activate the device to use their network and they won't do it as it is not officially supported. A news report says that though the Nexus 5 won't work on Verizon, other google projects that are slated to come out in 2014 will... wonder what this "other projects" are! :rolleyes:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] bberryhill0:
I'm off contract now and just don't see anything better than my Eris 4G.

Swyped from my Incredible 4G using Tapatalk 4 11-01
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] jcpowell:
I'm sorry but I wouldn't recommend leaving Verizon for the Nexus 5. VZW has hands down the best coverage and best technology up in the air
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] spectre559:
I was just reading that T-Mobile has the newest radios (being late to the game with LTE) and will have more bandwidth in some cities with their acquisition of MetroPCS. Of course the coverage in rural areas still won't match Verizon.

Anyone notice how your monthly bill doesn't go down when your contract/phone subsidy is fulfilled?! T-Mo is starring to look pretty good to me.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] jcpowell:
No T-Mobile does not..the radios are different from site to site from market to market but all relatively the same. T-Mobile are building a different type of network. Long story short it will be good "today" but in a few years will be nothing... It's a here and now game that are not looking at the future with their technology... Marketing.. Sales...advertising... Build a network quickly that will seem fast for today standards... VZW and ATT are already two steps ahead of what your getting now in terms of speed.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] eng3:
So I've had this phone for almost 2 yrs now and am thinking of upgrading in the next few months. The main improvements I'd like are a better camera and better battery life. I'm pretty happy with the form factor. I think the main problem will be finding another phone of similar size (~4in). I also like a removable battery and microsd which seems to be starting to go away too. Ofcourse I could just hold onto this thing until it breaks or becomes too slow and hold on to my unlimited data from verizon.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] bberryhill0:
I didn't think I would like a bigger phone but the LG G2 works for me.

Swyped from my Verizon LG G2 using Tapatalk 4.4.12
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] skycommander+:
My first post.

I finally registered to be able to post some finding and experience learned while using mdmower's temp-root script and rumrunner on linux...

But, I guess I have to post 9 more random things before I can do that.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] MT_Rider:
Looking forward to it! I was irrationally pissed when I noticed flashlight was gone, no joke...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] The Archangel:
I'm not voting for Obama after this move

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-president-order-communications-770/
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceWilly:
Never rooted an android phone, and am upgrading my from stock rom DInc1. Feels like a whole new world. Don't even know where to start with my modifications/rooting/flashing etc. Just want to make sure I choose a fairly stable platform, as I don't want to be flashing and starting over constantly once I get it the way I want it.

First priority will be finding a way to trick the phone into thinking my external SD card is the internal storage, so google music places my songs on the removable one.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
You couldn't have chose a better platform honestly. Unlocking and rooting is really easy to do. Right now the only thing we have is a stock rom that you can debloat to your hearts content. A rom is in the works as we speak that will add some functionality and well deserved mods. Last I heard it may be available today.

Message me if you need help running the unlock process and subsequent rooting of your phone. But there are two threads (one stickied) in the development section that should get you rolling fairly quickly.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceWilly:
I appreciate that. I'm fairly familiar to mods and this type of stuff generally, and I have learned my lessons over the years to read up a ton before making any moves, especialy when a bricked phone could be the result.

Mostly I am just trying to get it stable and running smooth. Some new launchers and mods are nice, but I just want to avoid anything that slows down the experience at all. Also maxing out the battery life is a concern as well. I am so used to my DInc where I had power control toggles for everything just to keep the battery usage to a minimum. With music and the ability to actually watch twitch streams on the new phone I think I will start to tax the phone a good amount more.

If I had to guess, I would probably lean towards a popular and widely used modified rom. The tweaks I might do specifically to mine would be very minor and targeted. In the past I've read a lot about new roms being buggy and/or preventing some phone features from work. Given the development nature of this there will certainly be bugs and revisions and that is all to be expected, but I believe I can pretty easily hold off on the modified ROMs until this are fairly well established.

I also have no experience with backing up the phone, having apps on the SD card, or restoring settings. The idea of setting everything up from scratch with each rom flash isn't too exciting, but I would not be willing to risk stability just to take a shortcut with the re-configuring process. Having a better understanding of those things this early on in my ownership of this phone might be really nice later on when I start to mod it though.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
yeah just stupid decisions like that make no sense

/me looks disapprovingly at htc/vzw
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] x2kjosh:
My DINC4G is on the way... I expect big things will happen in the months to come, I'll be along for the ride.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
Congratulations!

You won't regret it. Loving everything about this phone.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceWilly:
Alright someone give me the quick and dirty. I have hasoon's tool, but I want to understand the steps. There is also Con's tools which seem very similar but focus on the recovery tool TWRP 2.1 as well.

I can manage to unlock the bootloader, but with just that what state is the phone in? The ability to flash a new rom to boot from? does it still have stock rom until I decide to change it?

Then by adding a "recovery" what do I gain? If i did not add a recovery what would the problem/downside be? I hear recovery and I think "restoring defaults". Is that the case, and if so... defaults of what exactly? Maybe a recovery is more like a GUI you can boot to to handle restores/flashes/etc at the pre-rom level? Sorta like bios?

Finally, I believe I understand that rooting the phone is now possible only because the bootloader is unlocked? Or is this just an overkill step because someone has gotten that far?

I realize these are pretty entry level questions, but while I can follow directions, I like to know what plateau's each step places me at, and what is required to build on for the next steps (roms, kernels, recoveries, roots, etc)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Now you see. This post didn't get the warm response it deserved (post #396-410)... We back at the Dinc2 forums know how to pick up on the gold nuggets like these...

---------- Post added at 09:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:13 PM ----------

I keep checking my mail box for the package, but I am yet to receive it!!! :mad:

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Darn thing! I didn't order it, but come on! Nobody screws up their address on the package, or decides to give little litetaker a tiny surprise!! XD :silly:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
recovery

i'm eligible tomorrow for upgrade, but i don't know if i'm gonna like the twrp recovery, i tried it on my inc2, didn't like it, cuz it wouldn't pick up my previous backups, i like the 4EXT recovery the best, so what do you all think of it.

people that are using it now that is.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
its servicable....but really 4ext is not any new devices yet

the dev stopped bringing it to new devices (everyone on gnex, one x was clamoring for it) to rewrite it and add new things....last update i saw on that was late may/early june though...so idk
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
well, twrp will probably be ok on the new phone, seeing as there are no backups yet, so it should find it's own backups ok. i hope
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
Really wish the rom kitchen would work. Would love to get a battery %. Having to use Battery Notifier from the market atm. No telling how much battery that thing is hogging. Doesn't report in the battery history.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
ill post a batt % mod in my rom thread tomorrow or wednesday (along with other mods)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
You Sir, are a stud. Had to throw a link, some of these definitions are just hilarious.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
well, my new phone will be here tomorrow. yipee!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
somegoodness :)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceWilly:
Not really understanding the reviews that sites are putting up. They cite the battery life as not so great, when I have experienced pretty good battery life and others on here seem to as well. Or that performance is slow, mine runs very quick.

They won't be swaying me because I like my smaller size and with the exception of maybe some difficulties we will have rooting it in the near future I am pretty happy. Guess everyone needs a dinner plate phone or else nothing is worthy. :rolleyes:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mark9876:
i finally get mine tomorrow, after ordering through verizon when their unlimited data loophole was live last weekend.

Hope its as good as everyone says!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] ragnarokxg:
I love my phone even though I do think the Nexus is a good phone, my girlfriend just got one as a replacement for her broken thunderbolt and I am happy with my decision to wait for the incredible 4g.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] CaptainRewind:
It's been a while since anyone posted here.

I feel so demoted without root... I've become a (l)user. I've been a Linux admin for years, and am now a software dev. This is my 4th Android device, and I'm accustomed to having root... It's really freaking annoying. I hate it when big companies take control away from their own customers.

I've played around with all the exploits I could find for other ICS devices... Nothing.

Here's hoping our Verizon petition, Hansoon's unlock token comparison, or lazypanda come through.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
yes, it's getting very depressing
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
Depressing may be an understatement.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] The Archangel:
What are the gsm capabilities of the phone?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Wassup in here? This place is so quiet for a new phone.. not the flagship phone, huh? guess that will keep out unwanted crowd! :D

I'm aiming at Droid Incredible 5G LTE DUA Kickass Hotrod... Yup. :angel: That'll be my next phone, if they carry on with the Incredible line up.. as I need to wait till next year for an upgrade and I am more than satisfied with JB on the Dinc2... All other phones are apparently designed for humanoids with Kielbasas for fingers... :p :D
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
BOY, that really answered your question???????????
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] The Archangel:
I guess my plan worked :cool:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
off topic:kindle fire hd7

boy, they anounced no devs, this is uncrackable, and in no time it's rooted, they must have pissed someone off, hahahaha, made my DAY
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] j13smiley:
yea - where are those guys? tell them to work on the inc 4g next... ;)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
4g lte

i see verizon lowered the price on the 4g lte today to 99.00. now they want to sell phones, well good luck
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] ohredwood:
You know Aldo, I was at work last night thinking to myself, is it possible this is something bigger than what we see? I mean, is it VZ having a pissy fit with HTC over something stupid? Is it VZ wanting to snuggle up a little more to Crapple. A message to send to LG or another vendor, that maybe somebody just doesn't want this phone to be successful. 99 bucks now, hell in a month it could be 49 bucks, it wouldn't really change much for their bottom line.

The form factor is key for those that have bought it, and it might also be the form factor that has VZ thinking we don't want it and were gonna show you people don't want it. From our perspective, for a lot of folks, they are gonna say well why the hell would I buy this when I can get the gs3 for a little more, more screen and jellybean plus root.....

I just don't see the stupididty, of not offering the ability to unlock for those that technically saavy enough to do it. Honestly, if this their future on their quad core octocore whatever's, they can keep them too.

Hopefully you all crack it, because it will make it that much cheaper for me to buy off contract and keep me unlimited :)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
Walmart has it for 39.99, LET'S TALK.COM for about the same

of course this is with contract or new contract, off contract price ia about the same,they want to push the shared plan i think.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
unlock

Well i tried the unlock again tonight, NO GO!!!! YET
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Nyobie:
Gee, it's really quiet here. What happened to the bartender? I was gonna order a traditional margarita with Patron Silver on the rocks with salt. Yum! But it's no fun sitting in an empty room.

:(

Sent from my HTC Incredible 4G on Verizon's periodically blazing fast and mostly reliable 4G LTE network using xda-developers app
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
I'll fax you a bourbon, ok
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
Sounds great. I'll have one, too.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] The Archangel:
I did say help yourself? Did I?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
How bout them Steelers? ;)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
yeah, they finally showed up!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
With a 3rd string running back and an old broke defense =/
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
yeah buddy
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mdmower:
With the release of the new Nexus 4, I'm again tempted to jump ship. The Moto Razr M didn't get me because even with the recent root availability, there's still only 6 threads in their development forum.

Drawbacks to Nexus 4:

I prefer the smaller 4" screen

I'd have to ditch my $70 Verizon, unlimited data, unlimited text, 450min plan that is non-existent for new subscribers

Draws to Nexus 4:

No more hassle with hoping and waiting for exploits

Practically guaranteed that developers will be building AOSP ROMs

StraightTalk is only $45 a month

Better hardware specs all around (1.5GHz Quad S4 vs. 1.2GHz Duo S4; 1280x768px IPS at 320ppi vs. 960x540px SuperLCD at 275ppi; 2GB RAM vs. 1GB RAM)

At $300 for the 8GB version, I could nearly pay for it just by selling this phone on eBay.

It's getting more and more difficult to justify holding onto this phone and big red. Do you have any additional thoughts?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] somerandomname1:
I would do it if I could afford it.

I have the nexus 7, and I love it.

In the future, I'm not sure if I'll ever buy a non-nexus device again.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] junkmail9:
Nexus 4 is only 3G data?

Sent from my Fireball using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
Wait for the HTC dlx way better
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
Yes, it is. I didn't give up unlimited data to go back down to a 3G phone. There's no way I'd do that.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] junkmail9:
I agree. I didn't go thorough a lot of hoops to get this phone and keep my unlimited data to go back to 3G.

Sent from my Fireball using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
Even though I will be keeping my inc4, I'll be grabbing the HTC Incredible X a little while after it's released on Ebay.

This phone rooted can easily keep me satisfied for the two year contract I bought it with.

I can assure you S-OFF is coming to those thinking of leaving.

And once you are S-OFF, there is never a worry of losing root. You are S-OFF until you run the command to go back to S-ON.

The only time you would need to worry I suppose is if you needed a refurb unit and there is a new update and then someone will hopefully find (like on the INC2) a way to downgrade the phone, and use the prior S-OFF method.

I know the title of my thread was "coming soon" but I changed that seeing as soon has passed apparently for some :)

but would you rather have an S-OFF tool that works, or one that might work, and also might brick your phone.

I OPT for a safe tool though, as does the team, they pride themselves on giving S-OFF to phones like ours that would have NEVER seen root. because it seems that HTCDev unlock will never come. and if it does, it'll most likely be far after S-OFF is released, and that is just plain pointless, as with the S-OFF method, you can root your phone get S-OFF and then go back to stock S-ON and Verizon is never the wiser.

those of us who used HTCDev unlock are stuck with our voided warranty, which I know most everyone would gladly give up for root at this point. but that is a big plus for those who unfortunately missed out on the HTCDev unlock.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mdmower:
Some good input here.

Since I can net about $250 for this phone on eBay (ok, maybe $220 after fees), this makes the Nexus 4 less than $100. Doable.

That's a bit of a misnomer since it does support HSPA+ 21Mbps. The T-Mobile version even supports HSPA+ 42Mbps (and it's unclear as to whether then Play store version just has a typo when listing 21Mbps).

The real draw to the Nexus 4 is that it's fully unlocked out-the-door. We've been burned by HTC with this phone having a locked bootloader. Fool me once, shame on HTC... fool me twice, shame on me.

Same comment as above.

I paid full price so I could keep my unlimited. This is partly why I feel so bitter towards HTC/Verizon; I OWN this phone and I'm not allowed to have fun with it beyond what they say is okay.

Really, this is the biggest thing holding me back. Because of the impending S-OFF, this phone finally has potential. Unfortunately, it's still not clear whether there will be more than 2-3 ROMs maintained for it. Whereas, with the Nexus 4, I'll have my choice of 20+ ROMs after a relatively short wait.

I know it sounds like my mind is made up, but really I'm on the fence. I have the best service and speed available in the country with my Verizon plan, but I also want flexibility with my phone and a developer community interested in the device.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
go for it, then