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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
BS?? Dude maybe nobody wanted your raggedy 3D but heres a link to a 3d selling for $167 with 2hrs remaining! Kill yourself lol. You guys act like I have a reason to lie about a phone that was sold lol. Seriously some of you need a life...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-EVO-3D-...Cell_Phones&hash=item2ebe7dd97f#ht_500wt_1415
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] shook187:
lol....I see way more then just a EVO 3D....ok nice try but no cig
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
Lol u see a charging dock, a few screen protectors, MHL adapter and few other ebay brought accessories. I guess that was the difference between it selling and your raggedy 3D not selling huh? Yeah ok guy... Either way it goes my new phone will be paid for and you'll still be you...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jpkotor:
I blame wirefly for all the above animosity. Can't we all just get along?! :p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] johnnymcmahan:
In before the lock!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rdeets:
If it makes anyone feel any better, I honestly think (>95% chance) that our phones will be in FedEx custody on their way towards us within 48 hours.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scrapir:
That would be great but I'm not so sure about it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ptrd:
I went to BB today just to see if you could still take pre-orders and you can.

I decided not to because i can wait, no biggie. Anyways I guess my question sparked a few of them to jump on me to try to get me to pre-order.

They said "well you could get $50 off", sorry dude I got my phone for $120..

"well where did you buy it from?" my answer WF

"wow I can't believe you would trust to buy it online, make sure you don't sign 2 contracts, that's what those online places do"

Now I don't understand his first comment...maybe that's why their company lost both their founder and CEO this month. People buy lots of things online so I don't know why a phone is anything crazy to buy. Also with the second contract, what more would I be signing? I didn't understand his comment.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] unit713:
You say lol more than any girl I've ever met. And "kill yourself" ? Real mature kid..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PinnerProxy:
i got my evo from best buy like 10 mins ago for 150 /: with insurance. **** wirefly sorry...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Matstarr:
I sold my 2 EVO 3D's for $220 each. I have no idea why this person paid so much but I sent out the phones immediately on Thursday and now I have no phone. But I couldn't risk losing out on this deal cause they arent going for more than $165 and I had zero extras
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BigMosley:
Where eBay?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Matstarr:
Yes
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
Dude shut up.... We have nothing to say to each other. Go pull ur panties out ur a$$ n get a life....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BigMosley:
Did you include any accessories? I'm thinking about doing a bundle with 2 cheap cases and my Ballistic HC. My phone is a little over a month old brand New out the box from Asurion.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
I wouldn't say that these guys might start asking for invoicess to verify your sale lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Matstarr:
Actually I had nothing but phones. I felt like I got over big time. These phones are not selling for much. Good luck to all that try, I hope you get what your asking for
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
<<I too, am a victim of Apple patent #5,946,647>>
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Matstarr:
By the way I contacted Sprint yesterday and they have no idea of when the release date is. Hence the reason WF has no info about anything
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
You are such a liar! THIS IS ALL WIREFLY'S FAULT! I bet you didn't even have E3D's to sell. j/k Lol

*What a silly thread this has turned into. I wish everyone *****in about WF would just cancel and keep it moving. They told us, as soon as the "boat" was held up, 2-3wk delay. We are technically 1wk into that delay....

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] five40:
One good thing that came out of this delay.

It gave me time to really think if i can live with 3G only and I simple can't. While driving around I ran speedtest on 3G to see if I could get by for the next couple of months. Most of the results were just laughable.

The price was nice but I would be miserable as hell without wimax. I guess I will just wait for a few months until LTE gets deployed in NYC. By then the Sprint GSIII would have been released and I have another option to consider.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jpkotor:
I think more people are upset about the principle of the matter than not actually having the phone in hand. And it doesn't make people feel better we're 1 week into the "2-3 week delay" when others got their phones 1/2 a week into the "2-3 week delay"

I'm fine saving the money and spending an extra week with my OG Evo, but the lack of information is frustrating, especially when it doesn't all line up. I'm also moving next week so I fear WireFly's crappy customer service cannot properly handle the situation if (more like when) I will need to change the shipping, since they can't even properly handle removing their heads from their asses.

You get what you pay for. Should have spent the extra 30 bucks w/ BB.

occupyyy wirefllyyy!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BigMosley:
What are your average 3g scores?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] five40:
It varied by location. The tower at work was decent around 1 mb and .50 mb up in the bad areas .16 mb down and .20 mb up most other spots were bad though. I absolutely need it at the gym and 3G sucks there but wimax is great. I need my Plex when i'm doing my cardio.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] shook187:
What kind of speeds do you need "While driving around"? Sprint's 3g speeds are not all that, but for most things it works fine besides video streaming.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BigMosley:
Damn that does suck. There's some areas south of me are like .25mbps down and .10mbps up. I get 1.35 down and 1 up usually in my area (DC) plus we should be getting the LTE first round so I'm happy!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] five40:
I do it while driving just to check the areas I frequent.

The most data intensive thing I do while driving is stream from Google or Amazon music and not even that it can do without constant dropouts. Anything I like to listen to on a regular basis I make available offline.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
WF told us, WF customers, 2-3wk delay. Everyone else basically didn't say, but held to the ASAP and then changed as soon as they could actually, guarantee," some" phones were going to be in their hands to pass along.

Principle of the matter is, when someone tells you it could take 3 weeks, if you don't have the patience to wait ALL 3 WEEKS (let alone 1wk) than start making your plans and stop calling daily, chatting with multiple CSR's or calling corporate to hear "Something". We were all warned, at the same time.

Do people really think that WF not a) having the actual date and information to share with all their customers or b) not having phone to give us is fun or advantageous for them OR good for business? Hell no....

If you don't want to hear 5 different answers, DON'T ASK 5 DIFFERENT PEOPLE 5 DIFFERENT WAYS! :banghead:

I think it's especially humorous that people are surprised that the CSR group isn't "as helpful" as they would like. They are upgrading shipping, giving free stuff away, dealing with the same question over and over and over and in the end, ALL THEY HAVE IS A SCRIPT. They either "stick to the script" or give some fairy tale response. The fair tale responses.... there is no excuse for that but I think it has been shown, multiple times, the scripted response has been pretty consistent. (*It's not the answer we all want to hear, but it's honest)

I totally agree that in this particular case, you definitely do get what you pay for but when you didn't pay for it, why B & M about it?

occupyyy some common sense!! Lol

<<I too, am a victim of Apple patent #5,946,647>>
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RyanInAj:
I don't know whether to feel jealous or relieved...

I'm a Phoenician that's been loyal to Sprint for 4 years - I have never used a 4G connection(which is sad) - I've been doing everything on my Evo & 3VO on 3G(and wifi). I just cannot get pissed about having an Evo LTE with no LTE service. I guess when you don't know what you're missing, it doesn't sting as bad. Not to mention, Phoenix isn't technically officially slated for Sprint's LTE - again though, it doesn't bother me at all.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
Wow very well said my friend!! I totally agree!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jpkotor:
touche. i haven't actually called them myself, as i've known it would be pointless. i do stand by my statement that people are more ticked at the principle of the matter than not having the phone.

although we can't blame the CSR's themselves there is someone to blame at wirefly for this PR issue they have going on. i'm sure, as you stated, they don't enjoy having this going on but i feel that when they started getting word of other retailers getting the phone they should have sent out another update or two. would have saved them a lot of phone calls and even if they weren't telling people what they were hoping to hear at least no one could complain that they haven't made an effort to keep their customers in the loop.

again, i'm happy to save 80 bucks and wait but that doesn't mean $120 bucks is chump change. if i spend $120 bucks on a product and there are logistical issues with its delivery i expect to be kept in the loop rather than having to read forums (or call myself, but the forums have sufficed) to figure out what's going on.

truth be told, i check this thread mostly because i am trying to study right now and look for any excuse to take my eyes off my books....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] willn333:
I agree also. Learn patience or find another device.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gmarkiek:
Patience is not an option when they have already taken my money and I paid $45 dollars non refundable upgrade advance. My original upgrade was July 1st and the only reason I paid that was because I wanted this phone. The closer it gets to July 1st the more pissed I get. I think if they have taken our money we need better explanations! I'm just saying. Damn!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
Patience is ALWAYS an option.

Nothing has changed but day of the month..... What is there to explain? So is Wirefly saying, in two follow up emails, "we still don't know anything, your order will be filled asap", really going to make you all feel better? The initial delay communication still stands, today, just as it dis on day 1.

I do feel for you and the buy out cost you paid BUT, that has nothing to do with WF and unfortunately, the nightmare that the customs delay caused, is hurting everyone. If you wanted the phone, if you are selling the phone, even if you were dreaming of the phone, IT HURT. (*It's still hurting Sprint because they can't even give a national launch date!)

Someone in your position "might" have a shot at recouping that buy out fee from Sprint (*if July 1 comes and goes) BUT who knows. I mean, you paid Sprint, to upgrade and the upgrade has legitimately been delayed. Maybe call and see what they say. No refund, sure, but service credit, maybe. I sure hope we don't get to July on this wait though.... :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JGillis2391:
I understand what you all are saying about patience and all that but I am also on the side of not understanding the lack of communication. It's now been about 3 weeks since I preordered and I just hope this is the 3rd and last week I'll have to wait. I truly regret not pre-ordering from Sprint because this has just been ridiculous.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
Well technically didn't the phone just get released last week? I know this doesn't mean much but when I called WF this morning to get my free bluetooth headset added to my order the rep said they are expected to start shipping orders out later this week....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sandtrapjack:
If I had a nickel for each time Wirefly has said that, the phone would've been free. They told me that LAST week telling me the phones were expected to ship by the 25th.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] akslimp:
1 week delay at customs = 2-3 week delay for us, doesn't make sense. And when it comes to patients, its hard to be patient when you get the run around and nobody, Sprint or Wirefly, knows anything, that's just plain pathetic.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
Lol yeah that's why I said I know it doesn't mean much. But honestly this is the first time I've ever had a delay ordering from wirefly. Everytime I've ordered from them in the past my order has always arrived on time. I'm sure everything will get sorted out soon though...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gmarkiek:
Yeah I wish I hadn't canceled my order with Sprint if I had only known this BS was going to happen. I'm cool as long as I get it this week though. If not I think I'm canceling.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] darwin619:
Anyone making the patience arguement probably wears a helmet and licks windows on a regular basis.

When you purchase an item (notice I said purchase because WF already withdrew $119.99 from my account), there is an expectation of receiving said item in the agreed upon time frame.

There is no such thing as patience in the business world, and those of you preaching it are obviously not familiar with said world. I manage the window coverings department at the largest commercial window covering and flooring company in San Diego. I deal with million dollar accounts regularly. Reflooring every Target store in San Diego was our most recent project, just for reference.

Now, if I told my current client (upscale lofts in downtown) that I couldn't finish the project in time they would be furious. I would almost certainly never get their business in the future, but they would probably stick it out on the current project with me because it would be easier to wait an extra week than find a new vendor.

However, if I told them that I couldn't finish and that I "could not assure them of a definitive date," they would obviously cancel and go elsewhere. This is common sense when you think in large scale, million dollar terms. Now let me tell my clients that I already charged them, and if they cancel and go to my competitor they will pay more than triple because I already created an account for them with my supplier (sprint in this metaphor). My client has a choice to make: stick with me and lose money because they can't move their loft owners in, move to a competitor and pay more than triple, or sue my ass and crush my reputation (this is what happens in the real world when you pull this **** on clients with real clout).

Anyone who thinks of it in terms of a large scale business transaction between industry giants would not preach patience to the company loosing out because of an incompetent vendor.

In our case, WF can **** on us and basement dwellers can preach patience because they are so large, and to take the legal action necessary to rectify the situation would require a class action with quite a bit of effort.

With all of this being said, we come here to share any info we get (of course there is none), but we also come here to vent. Asshats that post pics of their phones or tell us to get a life need to take their own advice. Stop basing your self-wroth off of your successful forum trolls, and get out into the real world where **** like this isn't tolerated.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
I understand your frustration but the problem is from my understanding WF never gave a exact date of when the phone would be shipped (besides the incompetent CSR's who blindly threw out guesstimation dates lol). The most they ever told me was it would be shipped out as soon as they receive them. I dont even think Sprint has came out and released an actual launch date so technically WF hasnt went back on their word. The whole thing with customs threw everything out of wack so its really nothing WF can do. Yes they should train their CSRs to inform customers on the situation but its really not their fault. If a shipment is delayed for reasons beyond their control what can they really do?? Theyre already offering the phone for much less than anybody else ($119.99) plus giving away free bluetooth headsets. If they were holding shipments and delaying it once they got to their warehouse then I would have a major problem with that but thats not the case. The fact that I cant get the phone at any of my local bestbuy, radioshack, or sprint stores (preorders only) makes me feel alot better since I know ill be waiting for the phone regardless of where I go at this point. I too am bummed out about not having the phone, but honestly I just remembered last week that this phone was coming out so I havent been drooling over it very long anyway lol. Im cool with saving some $$$ and waiting a week or so for it to hit my doorstep...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RyanInAj:
In certain cases(most notably mine:p), you could get it for $100. You'd have to have a BofA account though, and go through their Add It Up program. The bank will give you $50 cash back if you order from WF. Can you imagine if you did that and got the phone from WF for $120!?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JGillis2391:
I certainly am not blaming Wirefly personally for the indefinite delay, and I will probably be OK with ordering from them again. However, I wish they could just improve their communication with the customers when things like this happen. I'm sure they wish just as much as we do that they could get our orders shipped and I do feel they would be doing whatever they could to make us happy, but the mixed messages I've heard from various CSRs is really annoying (and unprofessional). That's why it's not so easy to trust what they say and many people won't even order from them again. I will give them the benefit of the doubt this time around, but they won't be as lucky with many other frustrated customers... ( btw thanks again Apple as always :rolleyes: )
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
I agree with darwin619 above.

To take it further, how much patience do you think these large corporations would have if the situation were reversed?

Lets say my biggest client was taking their sweet time paying me what they owe (a situation I actually find myself in, btw). How much patience do you think Sprint or any of these other large company's would have if I told them, "I apologize, but I wont be able to deliver the payment at the agreed upon time, and in fact, I have no idea when I might be able to deliver"?

The answer? Zero patience. If I pay any of my credit card bills even one day late they slap a $25 to $35 charge on my account.

That I actually have to call Wirefly and complain just to see if they are "willing" to appease me by offering a free whatever is actually insulting.

Maybe this is Sprint's way of teaching us a lesson for buying the phone elsewhere. Lesson learned.

I'm constantly amazed at the way some people so readily accept being treated like crap from large corporations. But I guess if it were otherwise, no one would have ever heard of an iPhone.

Having said that, I don't see that *****ing in this forum will change anything at this point. These guys only understand one language: the language of moo-lah.

Stop giving them your moo-lah, and they may eventually figure out that if they treat their customers like poop, it will have a negative effect. This is exactly why I paid AT&T an ETF two years ago. It was cheaper than continuing to reward them every month for poking me in the behind.

I guess I have only myself to blame this time. I broke my own rule: never pre-order. Look how well that worked out. I was seduced by the thought of saving $80. My efforts to "get it before everyone else" only resulted in me reading other people's posts about their experiences with the phone while I continue to wait.

---------- Post added at 09:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 AM ----------

Actually, a launch date was given. And the term "Pre-order" implies receiving the item on or before the launch date. You can spin it however you want. Why the heck would I pay for something in advance if I thought I would receive it weeks after it's officially launched???

So the phones have been out of customs for days, and none are available. What does this tell me? That the first shipment is sold out. So apparently not enough were shipped.

So these large corporations had no idea how great demand would be? And exactly what does that have to do with customs?? I mean, they blamed customs, right? And customs is out of it at this point, right?

Anyway, your post implies that you ordered it after the launch date ("I just remembered last week that this phone was coming out") , so you knew they're having issues getting the phone shipped. I don't even know why you're commenting on this topic.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] darwin619:
No, this is bull**** too. My company is essentially a third party wholesaler, with a service and labor segment. This is very similar to WF, so I feel like I can speak on this with a great deal of understanding.

I am responsible for keeping stock on more than a quarter million dollars of inventory at any given time, plus extra inventory for extremely large projects. I've made single purchases from my vendors of a half million dollars before. This is a similar scale to what WF orders, perhaps even larger I would guess.

Now, I've placed large orders with my vendors before and run into all sorts of problems on their end. Out of stock on certain products, delays in shipping, discontinuation of a product line, and even the dreaded customs hold up.

When these things happen and we have no stock, and no expectation of stock I do NOT get on the phone with even my smallest client and tell them they get it when I get it. Instead, I get on the phone with my suppliers and hammer out a solution. I've gone so far as to get the number of the Chinese manufacturer and battled through sever language barriers to get info and resolutions. I make sure I have something solid to tell my customers before I break bad news.

In fairness, I have the luxury of spending more money and custom making product locally to fill orders in case of delays on normal inventory. However, there have been instances when a client's order was too large to custom produce, and there was a delay on shipping containers arriving. That is when I would spend all day on the phone coming up with solutions and solid facts to eventually present to my customer.

In the end, if I can't deliver what I promised I better damn well deliver solid information. In these cases the clients are upset, but generally respond well when I can give them every shred of information from the work stoppage in Hong Kong that caused the original delay, to the rough waters that exacerbated the situation, to the customs inspection, to the over loaded container that needed to be repacked into two containers to travel on highway. And, without fail I better have a solid date or date range for delivery. No way in hell can I tell the purchasing agent for every Sharp Hospital in Southern California that they aren't getting their shades, and I have no idea when they are showing up. That just isn't happening.

I totally blame WF. They didn't cause the delay, but they caused this **** storm because of their incompetence. They order enough product to confidently get on the phone with HTC or Sprint and insist on more info to give to customers.