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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I was thinking the same thing. My best friend is a big guy. One night in class during our Master's program, one of the students asked him how he got the answer he had for one of the questions on the assignment. His response: "It's because I'm fat! Because I'm fat!". I laughed so hard, I almost pissed myself.

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Thanks, dude. I'm actually trying not to be too negative about this. I think I set my expectations too high on the phone before I bought it. I blame all of the glowing reviews I read. It is a nice phone, but just doesn't function like I expected. Frustration is causing me to be a little more of a downer on this particular issue than I meant to be.

There are a lot of good people here who really know their stuff. This is my number one source for troubleshooting issues with all of the devices I have owned. I like to contribute when I can.

I'd actually like to think that you're right about developers feeling the need to code apps in response to the way the GS3 and One X handle multitasking. Maybe they really do just need to change the way they handle saved states and haven't had to until now. Maybe these devices will sell well enough to justify it for many of them. But my experience has been that Android development lags quite a bit behind iOS and I'm just not sure we'll see that happen soon enough to find out.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phositadc:
Sorry to revive a controversial (but dying) thread, but I just wanted to add one more comment into the mix considering the Gnex v. One X debate that has been raging in here. I bought a Gnex a few days ago which I plan to keep unless a fix for the wifi and push email bugs (I'm less concerned about multitasking, although a fix for that would be nice, too) pushes out soon. A few people in this thread have commented that the Gnex has weak battery life. Here are my results from my 2nd full charge cycle with the Gnex: 40+ hours off charger; 4.5+ hours screen-on time. On par with One X I think.

Not trying to stir up any controversy, but I thought this post might be useful for people who are reading these threads trying to determine which one is best for their needs.

This is stock/unrooted 4.0.4 on a GSM Gnex. I use a black wallpaper, keep brightness at about 30-40%, and this was about half wifi / half AT&T HSPA.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
I just bought a Galaxy Nexus too. (waiting for them to ship it out, can't beat 399 either).

That's some impressive battery life.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Similar results here with my GSM Nexus. The One X doesn't have a monopoly on good battery life.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] robstunner:
Great but your nexus doesn't have lte. Try comparing the lte version to the one x. Mine didn't even come close.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Verizon's LTE is much more of a power drain than ATT's, as is CDMA.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] robstunner:
Very true sir. But you can't claim apples to apple's with the galaxy nexus hspa vs one x lte
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
Battery life is extremely personal based on use. SAMOLED is better for battery life on blacks (video playback) and worse on whites (Web browsing). Considering the performance differences from the SoC you'd expect it to trounce the One X and it doesn't. You're also comparing an LTE phone to one that's HSPA.

Here's a comparison to the international One X which we know gets worse battery life than the U. S. version.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] markysd:
im returning mine..returned it the first day i got it for a defect now i have another defect but i decided to keep it till my 30 day return its been like 2 weeks now with it and im not digging the phone..i wanted to return it like 3 days after i got it too see it it will grow on me but nope..only like the the camera/size of the screen/screen..the touch screen sucks big time not enough touch sensors on the screen it has like a wired square spiral and not accurate when i use the web i have to pinch and zoom more often...when i push on something it pushes the other thing..with a bigger screen i tot i was going to pinch and zoom less but the touch screen is not accurate like the iPhone even it has a small screen:rolleyes:

crashes/multitasking is a fail.. dont like HTC sense its not natural for me like when i had the note with touchwiz very easy for me to use..

now i know carrier phone sucks...bloat ware/locked down..cant get updates have to wait unlike international versions..

i guess ill just wait for GS3 or a Nexus/true google phone with no carrier/company overlay...

over all the HOX is a nice phone design just wished AT&T version had a 32GB but i think its part of a money plan that way people can go over with DATA use with that extra dropbox cloud storage..:rolleyes:

back to my iCrap:(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kumiteking:
90% sure Im taking mine back by the 4th and going with the SG3.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] robstunner:
Your dislikes and reasoning is all over the place. Not hating just saying.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phositadc:
Very true, and LTE is pretty sweet, I admit it. If somebody needs a 20+ mbps per second data connection, then yes, the One X is the only choice.

I'm guessing that the people in this thread considering the Gnex vs. One X comparison probably don't rate LTE high on their list of "must haves" though. They are probably more concerned with, for example, functional wifi, functional push email, functional multitasking, etc. HSPA's 1-5 mbps suffices for them. The purpose of my post was simply to show they, too, can get great battery life.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
100% we don't care :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I still have my LTE Galaxy Note. LTE is sweet and it's very fast where I live, but so is HSPA+. I'm getting 5 mbps consistently on my GSM Nexus and that's good enough for me. While I'd prefer to have LTE, I can live without it for a phone that has multitasking and receives e-mail on time.

Took back my One X today. I felt bad when I made the decision, but relieved after I returned it. It just wasn't cutting it. The delayed e-mails was kind of the final straw. I was going to try and see if I could live with the gimped multitasking, but I have to receive e-mail on time. My job requires it.

My Galaxy Nexus just does the job for me. I hope those of you keeping the One X have better luck with it than I did and I sincerely hope those bugs get squashed for you soon.

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Uh oh. Somebody needs a hug. Also, YOU'RE.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mailjasons:
haha. that's funny!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bhyde:
took mine back today but only switched because the stores here in Atlanta were sold out and I couldnt exchange mine. Left with a Note instead...I had a Skyrocket previously and had to have LTE....25-30MB consistently is far too easy to get used too and falling back to HSPA+ feels like you're moving about as fast as pond water....LOL

Its great phone if you get a good one, I happend to get a lemon so now i'm coming up short thanks to Apple and its patent trolling against HTC.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Guys, play nice. If you cant play nice, then you're going to have a time out by the monkeybars.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jklitten:
What? That's what this thread is about.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] GermanGuy:
Why would Verizon's LTE be more of a power drain that AT&T's? I thought it is the same technology.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] markysd:
lol yeah i was out of it..just wanted to rant out my experience :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] spacecasespiff:
Why would you people buy a phone that you don't Like. Do your home work. I did and i got exactly what I wanted . Multitasking works good for me but then again i don't use it a lot but when I do it has worked good for me. Know what your buying.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Gee, why didn't I think of that? Oh, wait, I did. I read every review on the phone before I bought it. Not a single one talked about how crippled the multitasking was or the email delays. This was mentioned by several people in this thread. How about you do your research before you reply?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
There have been numerous tests and it just does. It may be because it's paired with the older CDMA technology, but AT&T's LTE is just more power efficient for some reason.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
AT&T's use of the Snapdragon S4 is a big reason. It has the LTE radio built in, unlike VZW phones which have 2 radios in them for wireless.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
^^^^^

This.

And while S4 provides a radio integral to the SoC there's still the inner workings to support CDMA plus a SIM in order to access LTE. S4's more efficient but having to switch back and forth between two network technologies on demand can only be made so efficient. And in areas of weak signal CDMA drains the battery much faster than GSM. There’s a reason Sprint’s One X (Evo) has a bigger battery.

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Speaking of which...

What's your opinion of this SGS3 vid? I have one, I want to hear yours first to see if you draw the same conclusion.

[YOUTUBE]I5wRaFSDIPo[/YOUTUBE]

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Here's the answer to your question. Pretty sucky for a phone with a larger battery and the talk time's about two hours less than the One X(s).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] spacecasespiff:
I did. I don't have issues with my multitasking and my emails work just fine. If there were issues with those I'm sure someone would have said something in the reviews. But since no one said anything then I guess its not an issue. I've never had a phone that was perfect. I think some people are just to dam picky. Instead of hating on the phone go get something else. Oh wait you might find something wrong with that one to. .
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
My guess is that it's something to do with the radio problems people have been experiencing. Probably drop offs and pick ups when the signal fluctuates. The international version's e-mail app has the same build number and it's using a different radio and experiencing no issues. I think a bunch of the signal and Wi-Fi crap should be fixed in the next radio update.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phositadc:
Dude, if you don't think the multitasking and push email bugs exist just because you personally haven't seen them, open your eyes. There are dozens if not hundreds of people on the various forums reporting these issues.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] soldierblue348:
The email push issue basically makes the phone unusable to me in the context of my needs. Plus the broken multitasking? I'm not playing the wait-and-see game with HTC when I have a 4S sitting right here.

Back it goes.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Artimus009:
With great regret I'm going to have to return my HOX. This is my 4th one and I keep getting the preparing sim notification and loss of data both cellular and Wi-Fi. Back to my sgs2. Ill hold on till some other next Gen phones pop up. I have 3 upgrades availible :D

sent from my HTC One X Rooted locked bootloader
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Divinedark:
Sent mine packing as well. Back to the Lumia 900 and iPhone 4S.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Srgsx:
Mine is shipping back to Amazon today.

Lack of multi-tasking -

Notifications, mail, text working randomly at best -

Change settings - reverts back to previous entries-

Audio output was below par-

Garbled speakerphone output -

Apple patent lawsuit - taking away simple link executables, fear of a future "update" to remove more functionality to meet the lawsuit criteria.

Back to iphone 4, will take a look at the LTE GS3 when it hits the shelves-
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
First of all, that seems to be the international version. I have access to one of the release, U.S. versions. It's possible that the S4 is that much different, though that doesn't seem to be the case with the One X.

That being said, the multitasking is much better on the S3. It still kills apps a little too quickly for my liking, but it takes longer than it does on the One X. The browser is usually the first to start refreshing, but it doesn't always do it immediately like the One X. And you can load a few apps and switch between them without reloading before it starts to happen.

I was a little hasty when I originally said that the S3 has the exact same issue. It has more agressive memory management, but nothing like the One X. That being said, I think the S4 is a tad worse than the International version, but that could just be the added bloatware.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rpritch:
I will be getting a 3rd device from Rogers next week. 1st one was missing the flash lends cover. 2nd one has all of the strange screen issues (multiple screen presses and unresponsive screen...search "HTC One x unresponsive screen" on YouTube to see an example). My 1st device was perfect, except for the missing lens.

Hoping the 3rd works out!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
I never even considered that maybe the lack of link app association was on purpose due to lawsuits and not a bug.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] everix:
@OP - You used the wrong there. It should be their. GG
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
My take was that it wasn't really a test. The browser displaying mobile Google search and the PlayStore are two very light apps. That doesn't even trigger a kill in memory manager on my One X. I'd post a video too but as we all know the HTC browser refreshes to the last displayed page whether it's recalled from state or started fresh. I suggested they try it again with a game in mid-play, a 720P+ YouTube video playing, CoPilot, and/or a flash heavy website like the non-mobile version of the WSJ.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I agree. Sorry, I wasn't really sure what you wanted my take on. Many of the "tests" I have seen people perform on the multitasking are biased. If their point is to prove that it works, they use light apps. If their point is to prove that it sucks, they use heavy apps.

Honestly, though, all you have to do is load any one memory intensive program and it all comes down like a house of cards. After that, it's refresh city. Do you still have yours, Barry? I took mine back Saturday. The exchange e-mail delay was killing me and it was the last straw.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] melikephones:
I came from iPhone 4s also for the larger screen. Probably go back when iPhone gets bigger screen :p android still has some catching up to do in my opinion although android does have some cool things going for it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Rastabolino:
I returned my one x. Besides the bugs and multi tasking problems, the phone was just very uncomfortable in my hand. The angular cut to the edge made the phone dig into my palm after a few minutes of use...too bad but I'm back to my sgs2 until something better comes along.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
You know what? I totally agree with you. The Nexus always felt better to me. I had identical cases on both (Cruzer) and the HtC was awkward in my hand. Then there was the power button...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
I still have it. It's a UK version and it just received the update people on the international forum have been saying helps multitasking. Give me some examples of things that failed for you that I can try.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Scenario 1: Lauch Youtube and scrub to a point in the middle. Let it resume playing. Hit home and open e-mail, then open a web page. Go back to Youtube. Did it resume from where you left off? (this is hit and miss on my Nexus).

Scenario 2: Launch Angry Birds and start playing a level. Hit home. Open the calculator and type some numbers. Hit home. Open a web page and move to a specific part of the page and zoom in on the text. Hit home. Multitask back to each of the apps and tell me:

1) Did angry birds save the state of your game?

2) Did the calculator retain the numbers?

3) Did the web page open to the exact spot you left off, zoomed in on the text?

Scenario 3: Open your banking app of choice and log in (i.e. Wells fargo, Bank of America, etc.) Open the calculator and do some pretend math. Multitask back to the banking app. Did it rest back to the login screen?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
I feel you there. Once they unveil the next iOS I'll consider making the jump when the next iPhone comes out. Considering it will get a maps revamp.

Jailbreak would be a must to fill in the feature gap.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Nickel Dime Bay:
Im not going to bash the One X because i think its awesome but i am returning it. I just bought a white galaxy nexus here on xda so im going to use that. I have a quick question though. did anyone buy the one x at no commitment pricing? I paid 600 cash at a corporate store, when i return it will they give me my cash back? Or send me a check? Anyone else do this?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
They'll give you cash back
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] IpodLover77:
Restocking fee is gonna hurt.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] soldierblue348:
Just a heads up, I called up customer care after returning it to get my data plans back in order. I mentioned the firmware issues and she credited my account $35 for the restocking fee.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] accord99:
I also have the international One X running the latest update. For both scenarios, no apps were killed. The YouTube app does kill the video cache and needs to re-download data to get back to the same spot on the video stream, but this happens just by pressing the multi-task button so I think this is more of an app issue.

For scenario 2, I added additional apps and found that I can run the following apps at the same time:

1) Angry Birds

2) Calculator

3) ICS Browser+

4) Mail

5) GMail

6) System Panel Lite

In addition, I have Battery Status and Signal Status running in the Status Bar and Current Widget, the Sense clock and the Sense calendar running.

That was the limit in terms of simultaneous running apps before encountering killed apps. From System Panel, it appears that the One X will start killing apps if the free memory is less than 150-160 MB; if above that it generally won't kill an app unless the display is turned off.

I was able to play a round of Angry Birds, cycle through the running apps and observe no reloads then re-enter Angry Birds at the same spot.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I ranted about all the issues and they never charged me a restocking fee. I was prepared to pay it, too. $35 beats $600.

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That's impressive. It sounds like I should have purchased the International version instead of the AT&T version. I could live with that level of Multitasking as long as everything else worked.

Tell me: Do you have the SMS notification bug? Have you noticed any delays on receiving exchange mail or Gmail?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
Thanks accord99, now I don't have to do it. I may anyway just to record a video before the SGS3 forum says "this post is useless w/o pics." In playing with the phone after the update any video app that streams (YouTube, Plex, PlayOn) refreshes when it comes back in focus. I'd guess it's because the signal's been lost. The local video player pauses and then restarts when it's back in focus.

Greyhulk, I don't think memory management is different between the U.S. and international version so I'd guess the next U.S. update will apply the same parameters. As for e-mail, MMS, and sync I've had no issue from day one (two updates ago). I have a 3G G-Tab 10.1 and when I get new Exchange mail they both go off within a second of each other. I'm guessing the mail, MMS, and sync issues are all related to the radio problems people have been reporting and not the apps themselves.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] austin4913:
If you don't like the One X then simply return it....if you have anything negative to say about the one x then now is the perfect time to keep it to yourself...people don't like crybabies....Jesus, get a life already...all bugs will be fixed but like any device, it takes time...maybe you should buy a phone more suited to your level of simplicity...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shawn1224:
Lots of interesting replies.

Fortunately for me I haven't experienced any of these bugs sans the multitasking issue and even then it's really not an issue. Maybe it's a little annoying when you lose something that you already typed but I use swiftkey X keyboard and it remembers everything I recently typed so still not an issue for me.

Hell even if I had experienced all these issues it's still a heckuva lot better than my Inspire. I couldn't even imagine going back to that dilapidated device. I'm in it for the long haul. I heart my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Cryosx:
Just saw the gsmarena battery life test for the att hox. I wish the test came out sooner, I probably wouldn't have gotten this phone if I knew battery life wouldnt be too stellar.... Damn anandtech review, their tests suck
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] austin4913:
I'm with HTC all the way as well...like Samsung products, like their TV's and washing machines....but their phones are less stellar...the iPhone display is much better than samsungs and they are the ones that make it for apple...apple is horrible and inferior...people buy for the name...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
What did you expect? Look at the difference between it and the international version and SGS3. The battery on the SGS3 is 16% larger so on an adjusted basis the AT&T One X blows it away. I know that in reality that's useless because the battery is what it is but that's a pretty impressive result just based on the efficiency of the h/w. And SAMOLED always does better on darker colors which is why it comes out ahead in video playback.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
I just joined att because of the HOX release. I'm getting an exchange because of I have a sun spot on my screen. If my new device is crappy as well I'm just gonna drop the HOX. What device should I get? The iPhone 4s? Galaxy note is way too big.

Sent from my Calculator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
I'd suggest you undo what you did and get a $399 GN directly from Google. By keeping your account and not your phone you'll be eligible for a subsidized phone in the future. You could get a SGS3 when it comes out and sell your GN on eBay. Since it's a Nexus device you should get most of your money back if you take care of it. An iP4S is a personal choice but would you really be able to go from a 4.7" display to 3.5"? You might as well do what I said with the GN and wait for Fall and get a subsidized iP5.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
Will I be able to just put my phone upgrade price on hold? Yeah after I play with the iPhone it feels like a toy compared to this beast. I wish this phone had an unlocked BL it would solve most of my problems... The screen is so gorgeous and the glass feels amazing! And besides I already have an iPad. Not sure how useful the iPad+iPhone combo is..

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