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[Nexus S General] mixtapes08:
Is this for real ? I'm experiencing this too. My signal is constantly Grey and my gtalk is signed off even though I have a Internet connection.

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[Nexus S General] Randomwalker:
Yes, gTalk is down and it has nothing to do with this kernel.
[Nexus S General] :
Well, if you can find the commit out of these which turns the screen yellow, I'll fix it.

But I'll save you the time, nothing at all since 3.0.38-22 touches any code to do with the screen. Absolutely and utterly nothing.
[Nexus S General] kalinusa:
maybe a little bug

Maybe a little bug:

I have XiivaLive (not the Beta version, and not the Lite version), version 2.2.4 pro.

When I put on my radios (MPEG stream, or AAC), after 20-30 seconds they stop playing. When I turn on the screen they start buffering again. Can anybody check this and make sure it is a kernel IDLE problem or something?

Of course this did not happen before
[Nexus S General] mixtapes08:
Ikr.. im just asking from the gtalk app point of view not the kernel Lol don't take seriously.. :)

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[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
First issue on ICS test 23. I was on call and the screen would not turn on after a while, only capacity buttons. Screen turned on fine after the other person hanged up.
[Nexus S General] mixtapes08:
Probably because of the proximity sensor.. Not a kernel issue know your phone features first lol

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[Nexus S General] jad3675:
Ha. ;)

Good point. Just thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone else experiences the same issue.

Don't want to seem like I'm *****ing though - it's a great kernel that you've put a lot of hard work into. I'm really happy with it.

John
[Nexus S General] :
Lol. That makes sense, it will do that. You'll have to disable it.

You can do that either with an init script or from a terminal emulator on the phone like so:

echo 1 > /sys/module/cpuidle/parameters/idle2_disabled

There is no way of differentiating between audio streams in the kernel unfortunately.

I can't solve this problem in the kernel so I will add a switch to disable TOP OFF mode for people that do audio streaming. That way you will get some power savings, but your stream will still work. :)
[Nexus S General] polobunny:
Question absolutely out of the blue, but do you believe it could have a condition such as data being transfered over 3G/WiFi added to the other conditions for IDLE2 to activate? That way it would be transparent to the user?
[Nexus S General] dEris:
I can't get past Google logo with latest stable. Which one should I use?
[Nexus S General] Randomwalker:
As per your sig you are on CM10? I think the stable one is for ICS.
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Come on I know it's the proximity sensor doing it's job. But when I pull away from the phone, the screen should turn on. This does not happen with the ICS kernel test 23. I tested the stable release and no issues.

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FML I cannot reproduce it anymore LOL.
[Nexus S General] :
Yeah, I see where you are coming from, but that is really prone to error.

Because packets are shifted in bursts generally, you would have to have a timeout after each burst before IDLE2 allows TOP OFF again. This would cause the problem that *any* packet would cause TOP OFF to be disabled for that timeout, which would really hammer powersaving for people who aren't using streaming.

So no, I think a switch would be the best thing, as I suspect the majority of people use the music on their handset rather than streaming.
[Nexus S General] mixtapes08:
Lol be more specific next time

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[Nexus S General] Roscopcoletrain:
I flashed the JB build posted above. Running legos early 4.1.1 asop build. Stuck as well.
[Nexus S General] polobunny:
I understand that, and I honestly cannot think of a perfect transparent solution in this case. I stream music myself, and I know of a few users who do, but I do it while on charge thus no problem there.

I agree with you, I think the quantity of people streaming while not on charge (get a car charger if you're streaming in the car!) is very low, not warranting to put much more efforts trying to find a solution and definitely not worth impacting the rest of the user base. Sucks, but yeah.

One could always monitor if an app is running using software such as Tasker and have IDLE2 enabled/disabled as long as it's running. More overhead, but if you're lazy and want everything automated, it works.
[Nexus S General] dEris:
Can you recommended one that will work?
[Nexus S General] Randomwalker:
Are you still on Chocolate River from your sig or did you change over to Kalim's build? The prevoius test kernel worked with Kalim's build, so probably the current one will, too.

Just tried it out: latest test kernel runs CM10 0.8
[Nexus S General] apatal:
OP updated! I love how the thread is getting livelier with each update.

Cheers! :)
[Nexus S General] chronophase1:
Haven't had a chance to flash the latest test build yet, but I'll eventually get around to it. Haha. Nice to see more people using this kernel. Underrated IMO.
[Nexus S General] knzo:
Just a tip, the NS original PM_FAST patch is for BCM4329 whereas we're using BCMDHD now.

Both bedalus and thalamus have to reapply the patch for BCMDHD, here's my commit.
[Nexus S General] metalgear873:
New test kernel is working great, very responsive, a lot less lag. Still need to test the idle 2.

Will report back tomorrow.
[Nexus S General] sdhanjal15:
Will be testing idle2. Long car ride you myrtle beach
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Not 100% sure if Interactive is making it more responsive or more smooth on ICS stock 4.0.4. The latest stable was very snappy with Ondemand as well. Will play around a bit more with the 23 test release on ICS.

Edit: Reverted back to latest stable and it's MUCH smoother (transitions and opening apps). Maybe Interactive + ICS is not a good combo.
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Ok the issue happened again. Screen would not turn on during a call even if I move away from screen. Only the capacity buttons. Also, this time the audio kept cutting out once the screen issue started. Going to revert back to the stable release for now, need to answer some important calls today.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
got a question for you _thalamus...having the option to overclock enabled affects stability of your kernel?i mean just having the option available, not really overclocking. Because if it does not affect performance and stability in any way, maybe you could enable it?

and if you dont wanna bother with adressing issues that may come because user "x" is OCeing, maybe you could just post a warning on the first post saying that you do not adress OC related issues. at least everyone would be able to OC if they wanted to, and in case there was any trouble with it, we could just go back to stock values.

Btw great kernel, loving it!
[Nexus S General] dEris:
I'm in the latest one with theme chooser
[Nexus S General] Randomwalker:
OK, I'm on a different CM10. But still, did you try the kernel released today? Perhaps also ask in the thread for your ROM whether s/o there managed to run it with this kernel.
[Nexus S General] yxcv99:
With the release today, the crt animation is back again..

//edit:

By now I saw that the fixing patch was applied, ignored hat in changelog..
[Nexus S General] chronophase1:
Wow. This interactive governor is pretty darn quick!:D
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Nice... on ICS it stuttered a lot.
[Nexus S General] :
I think it's an interaction between the interactive governor and IDLE2.

I'll look into it today. I have a couple of ideas.
[Nexus S General] ivlis:
Using 26.07 version with v1.0 Kalim's CM10 build. My phone never had be so smooth! BLD seems not working, I have got 95% after charging overnight.

Also I tried stream music via Google Music and Tunein Radio - no issues.
[Nexus S General] towelboy:
Just tested out the new update and every time I listen to music with the screen off for 5 minutes I can't turn the screen back on or stop or lower the volume of the music, so I had to take out the battery, this happened twice
[Nexus S General] colonia27:
known and fixed --> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29396160&postcount=1050
[Nexus S General] Imppy:
Hey thalamus wondering why system reboots when I set min as 800mhz?
[Nexus S General] Randomwalker:
Did it reboot immediately? Just tested on CM10 1.0, no reboot.

Maybe you'd like to share the log?
[Nexus S General] :
Because of the crappy setting program you are using probably lol.

Works fine here.

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Important bugfix release.

This release resolves an issue where you may get an unresponsive device when attempting to turn the screen on, or during a call.

Available here.

Changelog here.

All 3.0.38-23 users MUST upgrade.
[Nexus S General] Randomwalker:
So, ...test-JB... would be the one w/o "CRT fix"?
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Nice. I'll put the link in the OP later. Thanks.

EDIT: Done! ;)

Sent from my Jelly Belly
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
New ics test kernel looks good. Will test calls soon.
[Nexus S General] :
My tests with calls worked fine. It's the same issue, timing of earlysuspend. :)
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Dunno what you did but now interactive is making ICS fly lol so freaking fast...
[Nexus S General] leap_ahead:
i9023 version working ! no problem !
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Latest test release... No issues so far on calling. In fact, this latest test release is MUCH faster than test 23. On test 23, interactive was jittery on ICS but now, the phone is flying.
[Nexus S General] :
Yeah, I suspect that the timing issue with IDLE2 / late_resume() was causing quite a few subtle issues.

Seems to be pretty much perfect now though.
[Nexus S General] :
I had a complete lock up while testing i9023 jb 24, I was listening to music on Google Play Music and then suddenly the display turned on and the music stopped. Display wouldn't turn off anymore and I had to do a battery pull. I'm running Euroskanks CM10. Let's see if I'm able to reproduce the bug :p.
[Nexus S General] :
If it had been a kernel panic, your display wouldn't have turned on, it would have just rebooted. I would suspect an app or more likely a bug in CM10
[Nexus S General] tssphysicsboi:
Thalamus, after installing recent kerenal, many apps keep crashing. I tried to fix permissions but still happening.
[Nexus S General] :
What's a kerenal, is it a kernel with some kind of disease? I'm not surprised you are having problems if that is the case.

Joking aside, I'm not having any issues, and neither are others, so I suspect it's your ROM / setup.
[Nexus S General] polobunny:
:silly:

So many complaints, so little /proc/kmsg. It's so rare that kmsg doesn't get written, you have a freaking huge problem if that ever happens.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
bump
[Nexus S General] :
I'm not interested in adding any overclock.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
That was the question, the rest was just a suggestion
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Thalamus, I am glad you do not have this mentality. Even test releases are so freaking stable...
[Nexus S General] polobunny:
No, it wouldn't really if correctly implemented. But it won't, so the question gets dropped.
[Nexus S General] noobiekins:
Edit: I read that there is a bug fix, thanks!

In the 07/26 release, I was playing music, on Skype for msging and with browser on, and screen filter on, the screen wouldn't turn on, music kept playing and I could even change the volume of the music
[Nexus S General] :
Can you try the latest version of the kernel? I'm successfully streaming with IDLE2 enabled as we speak, currently with Xiialive (paid version) and I've also successfully tested Tunein Radio Pro and Google Play Music.

I'm pretty sure it works now.

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I won't shout at you for repeating a known bug, this time.

But yeah, I know about that and I fixed it earlier. Install the latest version please.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
well the question shouldn't get dropped, just cause it does not interest the dev...

anyway thanks for the answer;)
[Nexus S General] :
I ignored the question the first time, before you bumped, because overclock was mentioned here. I get sick of repeating myself.

I don't see what relevance the question has. I'm not interested in implementing overclock, I tested it, didn't see much benefit and decided against it so whether it makes my kernel unstable or not is utterly irrelevant.

And it's up to me which questions I respond to, I generally ignore the ones which have already been answered because as I said, I get sick of repeating myself and I have very little patience when it comes to people who don't / can't be bothered to read, or read but then ask the same question anyway.
[Nexus S General] polobunny:
That works without being on charge? How did you manage?
[Nexus S General] korpo53:
Yes, it should.

This is not Burger King, you're not entitled to a kernel your way, no matter how useful/stable/whatever you think a given feature is. He's already answered that there will be no BLN, no overclocking, no voodoo color, no this, no that, dozens of times.

Your opinion on whether they should exist in this kernel is irrelevant--this is thalamus' project, and his word on the direction of it is law. If you want a given feature, and it's not in a kernel you want to use, make your own.
[Nexus S General] :
No idea. It just works. The kernel that I'm using actually has IDLE2 permanently enabled, not just when music is playing.

The powersaving is garbage, but that is to be expected. Streaming is expensive on battery usage.
[Nexus S General] Imppy:
My battery seems to be excellent so far
[Nexus S General] :
Can I just add that if a feature becomes viable, or if something changes, I will consider it again and test it again. I strive for constant improvement, hence why I am now using interactive with JB, because it is better. I tested interactive several times with ICS, but I thought it wasn't beneficial, which it wasn't. It wasn't in JB either until I discovered the boost feature.

Things like overclock, voodoo colours, BLwhatever, I will never change my mind over because there is nothing which will change my current opinion of them. I'll add them all if they don't exist, how about that? :D
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
did i ask the question on your blog?i didnt...went through this thread(most of the posts) and wondered if just implementing the possibility to overclock in the kernel would make it unstable.

Yes its up to you to chose which questions to respond to, but its called being polite. Did anyone asked what i asked before?from what i read here no one has. And sometimes devs change their minds you know, so basically i asked that to see if having the possibility to overclock would make the kernel unstable and if it didnt, i just suggested implementing it. Its not like i just came here and said "i want OC now!"

Ok i get it, for some reason you just dont like it, whatever, wont say another word about it

cool story bro
[Nexus S General] Oodie:
I'm with you here . Overclocking is bull**** . all of the users complain about the battery life & they need OC too . lol . Voodoo colors , well , i have i9023 :D . So i really don't know what they are . & BLN . OMG . I never turn it on . It was the BLN that my wife caught me cheating with another :eek: . I hate BLN . Don't need BLD if there is no softkeys .

& the most important thing i like to comment here is the idle2 thing . i think it really does the job because i could never get past 6 hours with only 3G on with low network signals here in my country , but today i only lost 20% for 4 hours with only 3G on & regular phone & tapatalk browsing . ( i was on a boring meeting , so tapatalk is my buddy )
[Nexus S General] :
Just keep in mind he could also just dev a kernel and not share it at all. Considering how many questions he answers in this forum i'd say he's not only polite, but astonishingly generous. If you want OC, flash matrix, trinity or air kernel... HOW HARD CAN IT BE? There's no point in creating an unbloated, slick and stable kernel just so afterwards one can randomly add so called features. Don't take awesome devs like him for granted and respect him for what he's trying to do here.
[Nexus S General] :
When you have quite finished with the lecture...oh, you have? Good.

Do not talk to me like you think I owe you something. I don't, so you can get off your high horse right now.

My blog is always linked to the OP of this thread, because that is where the releases are announced. If you had actually read stuff, you would have seen my opinion on overclock and realised that asking is a waste of time, because I have already explored and dismissed that idea.

If I don't wish to reply or comment on a request, I won't. As I said, I don't owe you or anyone else anything, including politeness.

It's my project and I implement / don't implement what I like, and I don't need a reason for it, although I do generally give a justification but whether you agree with it or not is your problem, not mine.

I would prefer it if you vacated the thread until you have something useful to contribute. (Polite enough for you?)
[Nexus S General] polobunny:
Yeah it's not so much for the power saving when streaming rather than the transparency to the user that I'm interested. I love the set it and forget it train of thought.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
lol feeling proud?btw learn to read, i never said you owned me anything. bye;)
[Nexus S General] :
You missed a word - original.

I don't want mine to be the same as others. I want it to be an alternative to the usual. I don't want a big feature list full of pointless **** that the vast majority of people don't use.

If you want that, go flash Air 'I merge every random patch from the internet even though I have no idea what they actually do' Kernel.

If you want a decent, well developed kernel with OC, flash Trinity. Morfic knows what he is doing.
[Nexus S General] jimdem:
Why can't you behave like normal people when someone gives them a gift? The kernel is FREE, a person spent A LOT of his time to create it and despite the fact that he has already mentioned some things about feature implementation, you keep constantly demanding things. You want it your way? Make your kernel! Period. Also some say : hmmm why the X kernel has overclock etc. and your does not? If you like those features change kernel. It is FREE and FAST to change a kernel. This behavior made many devs leave the forums. Because users act like little kids. Not only they demand things, they think they know more than the devs.

Ok, now on topic :D

I flashed your latest version today (i have a I9013) in combination with jellybelly. This is the best combo EVER! Super fast and very stable. I can't say anything about battery life because it is too early but it seems good so far. Keep up the good work! ;)
[Nexus S General] polobunny:
Agreed on overclocking. But I dispise the absolutely off the charts , completely unnacceptable colors the i9020a (or at least mine) come with stock. It's not saturated enough (barely, but still), it's yellow tinted and definitely not accurate. It's a shame because the screen is much more capable than this and Voodoo color has enabled me to bring it to a much more respectable level.

BLN is useful to see if I got a notification while my phone wasn't on me without turning the screen on. Relatively low power indicator, just like them old school BBs. :P

BLD I use it just to save power (the one I lost having BLN, oh oh oh) and because it annoys me. Could live without it.

But that's not about it. thalamus includes whatever he wants for whatever reason.
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
LOL at the air kernel reference. But sooo many ppl actually like that kernel.
[Nexus S General] inFECT:
uhm, the download link for the ICS build from the latest test kernel seems down.

http://thalamus.ineige.org/kernels/...S5PC110-3.0.38-23ICS_test-20120726-120249.zip delivers an error.

edit: my fault, was using the download link from the blog. browsing in the directory shows the right version.

tldr; ignore this post
[Nexus S General] ljordan2:
You need to install the launcher as a system app. It is done by just pushing the launcher apk in to system/app folder and change permission to rw/r/r.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Actually he's talking about the stock launcher in rascream so it already IS a system app. Unfortunately, there is no way to keep it in memory unless the app provides for it. Here's what I do though:

1. Install any Apex Launcher from the Play Store

2. (optional) Using Titanium Backup, make the launcher a system app

3. In Apex Settings>Advanced, check the option to keep the launcher in memory.

This should get rid or at least minimize launcher redraws. Haven't experienced this in a while. :)

Hope this helps!

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Looks like _thalamus has been busy releasing new builds in succession. Anyway, you guys can download the latest release HERE.

I don't know what he did but my latest BB nightly is flying! Could it have something to do with the Linaro toolchain I've been hearing a lot about? Let's wait and see.

Cheers! :)

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] karx23:
Do you know if he will or has plans on integrating BLN. That's the only thing I miss.
[Nexus S General] jjhrrsn:
Do these not flash on Crespo4G? Never had a kernel that didn't work for both but..

ROM Manager Version 5.0.0.7

June 10, 2012

Preparing to install ROM...

-- Installing: /sdcard/Download/kernel-crespo-20120610-132145.zip

mtd: successfully wrote block at 0

I:Set boot command "boot-recovery"

Finding update package...

I:Update location: /sdcard/Download/kernel-crespo-20120610-132145.zip

Opening update package...

Installing update...

script aborted: assert failed: getprop("ro.product.device") == "crespo" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "crespo"

assert failed: getprop("ro.product.device") == "crespo" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "crespo"

E:Error in /sdcard/Download/kernel-crespo-20120610-132145.zip

(Status 7)

Installation aborted.

result was NULL, message is: assert failed: install_zip("/sdcard/Download/kernel-crespo-20120610-132145.zip")
[Nexus S General] wmdunn:
There are quite a few of us who would like to try Thalamus' kernels on our Crespo 4g devices, but not sure when or if he will make it available.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Not that I know of, bro. Sorry. You can ask him in his blog. :)

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] rickbosch:
For those who want to flash it on NS4G, thalamus did provide a way to do it on the Oxygen Forum, just have a search. It's via fastboot, so just look around.

Also, I don't think BLN will ever be implemented in his kernels, you can ask, but I HIGHLY doubt it.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Updated the OP with link to his recent blog post about the new experimental release as well as the official changelog.

Apparently, he's been implementing some experimental compiler optimizations, which may be the reason why the new release seems to make my phone fell a tad bit snappier. Hope you guys can share some feedback as well.

Cheers! :)

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] akshayf:
You want the v6 supercharger script. Google. Use the bulletproof app option in it. Bulletproof the launcher. It won't get killed.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Actually, bedalus already studied the effect of "super-charging" and found out that it has no benefit whatsoever to ICS. However, that's for the speed enhancement. Not sure about the bullet proofing part. :)

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[Nexus S General] Imppy:
Does this have bld and bln?
[Nexus S General] mixtapes08:
Read few pages back or read the op

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[Nexus S General] chronophase1:
I forgot how responsive this kernel is. Gonna rock this for a week.

Sent by pocket technology.
[Nexus S General] Imppy:
I couldn't find the answer
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Sorry, mate. No BLD or BLN. _thalamus wants to keep his work as close to stock as possible.

Sent from my Nexus S