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[Nexus S General] Muvolt:
I didn't want you to leave in any way. I wanted you to stop praising yourself all the time and talk more politely....but you didn't . That's your problem. I'm sure that the community will miss your efforts. Good luck with anything you will do.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Thread changes

In light of recent events, I will be asking the moderators to transfer the thread to the General section. This will be from here on out a purely informational thread. I will continue to update the OP as thalamus releases new versions of his kernel and development in IDLE2. As for official support for the kernel, please read the OP.
[Nexus S General] albundy2010:
I only used the benchmark because it was something I could visually see and feel in regular iu performance. Since I don't play any games the benchmark was used to confirm something was not right on my device.

Ran another popular benchmark quadrant and it dipped down to 8 fps as well.

I'll be seeing you on IEC.
[Nexus S General] jayjay3333:
I wasn't going to say anything but now I'm pissed this has been moved to general. Just because some moron had to voice his "I'm so important this needs to be said" opinion we have lost an amazing developer for our phone. I know I am also voicing my opinion but this is after the fact...after the huge loss your post caused. This is XDA Developers, not a popularity contest. I could care less if they like me or not, I am just glad they develop and release and let me use it. I am no developer, so I use, trouble shoot and do what the developer asks me to read and do. Yeah Thalamus is a rude and brass guy...WHO CARES. He is one of the FEW

developers

left in the Nexus S forum and a well knowable one at that. This site is for developers, NOT guys like you or me. We are just privileged enough to be able to join and use. Be thankful and humble.

So thanks for sticking up for your “friend” and complaining but never contributing. Thanks for pushing away a very knowledgeable and skilled kernel developer. Post your last_kmsg on your kernel thread and see what great in-site they spit at you...it's hard to solve and understand cherry-pick after cherry-pick and never creating anything yourself. Good luck with that.

Thank you Thalamus and I apologies for all the inconsiderate, illiterate, entitled “kids” on this site now. I thank you for all you have done for the Nexus S and please continue to make this and other Android based phones better.

Cheers

Edit: Thanks @apatal for bringing this thread to life, I/We appreciate it.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
No problem. As for thalamus, he'll be around especially in his IDLE2 thread. He's wasted too much time on that already to abandon it. Oh he'll drop by in this thread too. He just won't be as active as before. This thread is not dead, BTW, I'm just waiting for a new release, which should not be long now as he's working on an update to IDLE2 plus a tweaked ondemand to go with it. Cheers!
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Cool, this seems to be even faster than the one with interactive. Checked the change log and didn't see any mention of toggling the WiFi, but I did it anyway, just to be sure. Cheers!
[Nexus S General] giannis_mathiou:
Great! A noticeable faster version of your kernel, something that I can hardly expect (because it was already fast), with very good battery. Straight line at battery stats!!!

_thalamus thank you for all your efforts and the great job you are doing!
[Nexus S General] Pik3no:
Delete.
[Nexus S General] giannis_mathiou:
For now it's better to test the kernel as it is since it's a IDLE2 version and also ondemand tweaked governor. So if you want to try it try it as _thalamus gives it, otherwise go couple of pages back and see the instructions that _thalamus gave to add BLN and other features.

P.S. I also would like to see the CRT fix and BLN but since _thalamus said many times NO and gave instructions how to do it by yourself I stopped asking for any feature. I just use his amazing kernel as it is waiting for a stable release on witch I'll apply the commints for BLN and CRT fix. So I advice you to do the same, this kernel worths it!
[Nexus S General] zackandethan:
Downloaded the kernel with the new power . Running CNA 9/6 nightly. I already see the battery difference. Can't wait til it settles in. Thanks Thalamus !
[Nexus S General] daniel3ric:
Iddle drain

I have tested almost all your latest test kernels, and each time I come back to kernel-S5PC110-3.0.31-28JB_test-JB-20120810-205044.zip because of the huge (well 2-3%/hour vs 1-1.5%) drain of your latest iddle2 creation when phone is sleeping , including latest kernel-v3.0.31-1736-g1cacaf7-20120910-095503.zip.

What type of additional details do you need ?
[Nexus S General] :
None. I am well aware of it. It's not ideal but it's not the end of the world. I wouldn't describe it as a huge drain and I wouldn't describe it as a blocking bug by any means, when you consider the savings that IDLE2 gives to phone calls and music playback, both which drain like a ***** when IDLE2 isn't enabled.

It actually uses less juice whilst 'sleeping' if you hold a wakelock to stop suspend altogether. Maybe I'll do a test release with wakelocks and suspend disabled.
[Nexus S General] daniel3ric:
Thank you for your answer.

Will test on a longer period, maybe some days I don't use my phone enough. On top I have a Nexus 7 for music playback. I will probably test your kernel also on this one !
[Nexus S General] spider623:
Wow i just installed the latest test kernel and one thing is for sure, ondemand is much smoother than interactive

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] lionhe:
I've read in thalamus thread in the developer section that the version v.391 of idle2 is almost stable.

Will you compile a new version of the kernel that it is linked in the op or will you wait for thalamus to build and release it? I am using the version compiled by maddog and I am very satisfied, but listening to music is using a lot of battery.

May I kindly ask not to forget people using jelly belly 1.0.0 (if there still is someone )?

Thanks,

Lionhe

Inviato dal mio Nexus S
[Nexus S General] knzo:
That's why I use his kernel, he knows what's bull**** and what is not and he's able to back up his opinion coherently. I'm speaking on general terms and not regarding BLN (which I find useful despite how hackish the code is). It just irks me how people around XDA are so volatile to flashy words and placebo effect so I had to get this out. And also this:
[Nexus S General] spider623:
@knzo to bad I can only like 1 time, BTW after testing several kernels I can agree with you especially since my phone needs more an 1 minute to start with any other kernel while with _thalamus only 10 seconds,15 to also load sdcard, sorry for being out of topic

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] Killasmoke:
Great work I've said it a few times in this thread around a month or 2 ago. I have not flash ANY other kernel since I flashed this kernel. I have 2 versions on my SD card the latest one posted & the stable version I have not had ANY Reboots zilch Nada in 2 Months +! Great work Dev much appreciated:thumbup:
[Nexus S General] jvpde:
My phone locked up two or three times while listening to a large .flac file on Apollo with screen off using your latest released kernel. Didn't think to grab a kmsg but if it happens again, I will.
[Nexus S General] jorim.tielemans:
Which ROM?
[Nexus S General] jvpde:
knzo's vanilla AOSP
[Nexus S General] srthimsen:
If you haven't rebooted since, you should still be able to grab it.
[Nexus S General] pandaman21:
So does this kernel work with the nexus s 4g? Sorry for the noob question.
[Nexus S General] jvpde:
Yup
[Nexus S General] coluichepensa:
IGood morning,

someone can say me if the problem of the battery drain when the telephone in slipping mode is solved or at least reduced installing the last kernel with the new power.herring.so file?

thanks
[Nexus S General] Pik3no:
This is a JellyBean issue. Some ROMs fixed, ie: AOSP Chocolate (link in my signature).
[Nexus S General] ignito-nexus:
Farewell, _thalamus...

Take care
[Nexus S General] madd0g:
For explanation : http://thalamus-hacking.blogspot.com/2012/10/android-kernel-development-update.html

Thank you for all your work, I'm still running your kernel and I'll sure miss it for the next release(es).
[Nexus S General] n2d551:
Pretty soon no developers and then just cherrypickers. Sorry it had to end this way. Thanks very much and take care.
[Nexus S General] irminsul:
He's still developing for maguro :) And that your kernel isn't developed anymore doesn't make the last release less stable to use :)
[Nexus S General] jayjay3333:
Thanks for everything. A loss of a real Developer as my rant stated previously (September 8). I still keep and flash thalamus as I bounce around other kernels. Clean, stable, fast, no bullsh@$...i.e. Development!

As someone who doesn't develop but is here using, I say a huge thank you. Thanks for spending so much time on us, posting for public use, and dealing with the idiots on the forums. Thank You!

It is to bad about IDLE2 and the lack of collaboration here on XDA. It was a innovative idea that that was on to a great start. Perhaps it's because there lacks so many actual developers here they had nothing to contribute. I apologize for my lack of development and contributing nothing. I wish I could, but this is beyond my basic level.

Good luck on your future ventures and hopefully I run into your kernel development again on my next Nexus. ;)

Cheers
[Nexus S General] albundy2010:
Its also kind of sad that these cherry pickers also hurt um cherry pickers. The term is turning into a insult.

Cherry picking is cool. I love them as well. It just goes to crap when people do it and act like they are actually developing something. Buzz wording and taking donations etc.

I like the idea in the forums of the newer devices that have dev and original dev. But apparently from some stuff I seen on the 7 even that has issues with the pickers.

Oh well. I guess people do it for a name /ego/donations . Sad
[Nexus S General] :
Yeah, the 'original' 7 forums are full of cherry-picked, feature list wanking, ego increasing rubbish too, none of which is original.

'The more things change, the more they stay the same.'

Cherry-picking is great, I do a fair amount of it, but I don't pretend that I'm actually developing or innovating, and I always keep the original authorship unless I modify the patch substantially.

Anyway, I think I said all I needed to say on my blog.

There will be a 'final'? stable Nexus S kernel release just to release the most recent features as a 'stable' kernel, because I haven't done that yet. Keep an eye on my blog or IRC channel for that over the next few days.
[Nexus S General] as6:
So sad
[Nexus S General] mixtapes08:
Will definitely wait for thalamus and morfic collaboration on NP.. thanks for All the efforts dude :) :thumbup:

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus S General] DallasCZ:
also so sad

Iam from september on jellybelly 1.0.0 from AdamG, who discontinued development of this very smooth and minimalistic ROM. The ROM includes _thalamus kernel which i love and i began to read all about from _thalamus blog and this thread. Now i read almost everything till here and now i reallize that this masterpiece of work is going to be also discontinued. Very sad. But still on JellyBelly with latest stabel _thalamus driver and i am very very satisfied. Thanx a lot _Thalamus.
[Nexus S General] modifii:
Will your JB Kernel work on Android 4.1.2? I just don't want to lose Bigmem & Voodoo sound.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Yes.

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[Nexus S General] daniel3ric:
Will there be a jb kernel that works on CM10 M2 ROM ?

I have been trusting and testing thalamus kernels since the beginning until he decides to quit and start a crusade I don't recognize myself in.
[Nexus S General] irminsul:
This kernel works, that CM decides to mess their rom up and break things. Please don't flash CM, use something decent like stock or Bugless Beast.

The kernel is perfect, the rom isn't.
[Nexus S General] madd0g:
There's Bugless Beast again for Nexus S ?
[Nexus S General] styckx:
CM isn't decent huh? I look forward to your ROM that is better.
[Nexus S General] albundy2010:
Cm10 is a completely different type of rom then oxygen. Somebody that preferred oxygen will not want nothing to do with cm.

One is a minimalistic ROM while the other is not. Better worse depends on the user. Because one wants only one type doesn't mean the other is crap and he should do better.

Edit. Second time this week I read another thread and replied with the wrong subject matter. Woops
[Nexus S General] daniel3ric:
Guys, I was not asking for an advice on which rom I should use, neither commenting on was it well developed or not. Honestly I don't care as long as it fits my need and works. Moreover, this is not the subject ot this thread.

As for perfection in kernel's world, I have no opinion. AFAIK the stable final version of thalamus kernel is not yet announced, so it is too early to decide whether it works or not, for me.

In the mean time, I will stay with my rom's default kernel, which even if it brings functions i don't need, works well and has a decent battery drain.
[Nexus S General] irminsul:
I was meaning you can't flash a custom kernel on cm, because they changed the ramdisk in a matter it only works with their kernel.
[Nexus S General] :
They didn't change the ramdisk, they changed they way VSYNC works, effectively ruining project butter.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Wow! Why on earth would they do that? They hate butter? O_o

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[Nexus S General] :
It saves battery apparently
[Nexus S General] spider623:
If i remember correct crt animation :/
[Nexus S General] :
I'm intrigued as to what that is supposed to mean, I've no idea what crusade you are on about. I wrote a single blog post, hardly a crusade.

And I haven't quit either, I've just pulled away a bit. It's nice to actually spend time doing my own stuff which doesn't involve doing crap for other people continually.

I will do a 4.1.2 kernel when I can find time, but it might be a bit down the line as I only just found time to do them for the devices I actually use, NP & N7.

As for CM, I won't be releasing anything compatible with that. If they want to be moronic and diverge from AOSP *even* more than they already have, then stuff em.
[Nexus S General] daniel3ric:
Ite, missa est.
[Nexus S General] :
4.1.2 kernel here.
[Nexus S General] sysadmn:
Thank you. I appreciate the work you've put in.
[Nexus S General] Killasmoke:
Thanks for all your hard work much appreciated Thalamus been rocking your kernels since late July & haven't flashed ANY other kernel love having no reboots rock stable fast smooth more ram extra memory no gimmicks no bull**** :thumbup:
[Nexus S General] zhok:
Best kernel BY FAR for perfomance, THANKS.

Enviado desde mi Nexus S usando Tapatalk 2
[Nexus S General] SavageButcher:
Stable or test release?

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus S General] apatal:
Oh it's stable. He won't be releasing a lot of updates now so you can assume what he does release is stable enough as a daily driver.

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[Nexus S General] leap_ahead:
Sorry for ask ... crt fix for i9023?
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Wow I've been out for a month and a new version is here! Does this new version have idle2 enabled?
[Nexus S General] apatal:
OP updated with just the link to the post. No use keeping the old **** there. Cheers!

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[Nexus S General] samsyr:
Thlast kernel is great ..stable snapy and very good battery live..thanks

Its perfect

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] Fabius_Maximus:
Wonderful kernel. :D
[Nexus S General] :
No.

I disabled it because there were a couple of irritating bugs which I couldn't fix and which I had spent far too much time on already.
[Nexus S General] zhok:
Just one "bug", I don't know if only on Rasbean 10.16.2012 or another more, but, sometimes, rotation doesn't work and you have to reboot to have it working properly. Someone more with this problem? On stock kernel it doesn't appear.
[Nexus S General] leap_ahead:
wipe cache /dalvic cache flash rom and kernel and is ok ...
[Nexus S General] :
I've seen this sometimes, but I think it might be an app problem somewhere, or perhaps the ROM. I used to have this happen occasionally when I had Pocket set to lock the rotation in portrait mode, but haven't since I turned it off. YMMV.

Running this kernel on 4.1.1 (hopefully it doesn't blow up! ;)) and haven't had any issues so far.
[Nexus S General] spider623:
Cm error had it before not kernel
[Nexus S General] atl4ntis:
android / kernel/common / android-3.0

45378ee net: wireless: bcmdhd: Avoid suspend on watchdog by Dmitry Shmidt - 8 hours ago android-3.0

925d49a Merge remote-tracking branch 'stable/linux-3.0.y' into android-3.0 by Todd Poynor - 28 hours ago

27d0858 Linux 3.0.50 by Greg Kroah-Hartman - 2 days ago

holy crap man, tell'em what you discovered frank, before it's too late!
[Nexus S General] spider623:
What than in Linux community, almost every one builds on something premade

Btw just read the code and it's not big news that your provider can use any wireless connection (gps, gprs, gsm, lte, etc) to track you down, the dmca force the Oem to implement it in order to force regional restrictions and do demographics about the brand users
[Nexus S General] :
Lol, it's just atl4ntis being a trolling moron by trying to be funny (and failing) and trying to have a dig for my stance on *not* updating stable versions willy nilly.

The Android team don't do it willy nilly either... .8 (4.0) > .31 (4.1) > .50 (4.2). I wonder why that could be...maybe they hate bugs and subtle issues just as much as me. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I think it's about time this thread was closed especially if idiots are going to start trolling in here.

I'm not releasing anything else for the Nexus S. I don't even have one anymore...
[Nexus S General] evilscxfreak:
Sad to hear but i gueas we'll just have to live with it. :) i just started using kernel a week ago and it's great very stable, snappy and everything nice. And i guess trolls just started coming out of nowhere to mess with productive people. LOL! Anyway, just wanna thank you for letting us experience a great kernel. GREAT JOB and you made many people HAPPY!
[Nexus S General] spider623:
We know but it is the only non supported kernel that actually work with anything!

Btw can I host the last build on my Dropbox in case you want to clear your repo?
[Nexus S General] Warren_Orange:
Would this be suitable for Stock 4.1.2.?

I'm on Marmite V5 but I'm getting reboots all the time when using radio streaming apps.

Cheers.
[Nexus S General] :
Yes, I've been running it for a few days on the 4.1.2 stock OTA (9020a) and it's great. I've had a reboot once on a _thalamus kernel (maybe 4 or 5 months ago) but have had no problems whatsoever since then.
[Nexus S General] Warren_Orange:
Yey nice one.

Flashing now.
[Nexus S General] :
Hahahaha. Oh dear. Not a surprise really...nobody has my development ethos you see, it's all about feature masturbation unfortunately.

Regarding updates, I find it highly unlikely that I would need to do another update anyway. I will be very surprised if the Nexus S gets 4.2.

The latest is pretty much stock and a few adjustments and patches. Nothing ground breaking in there I'm afraid. No Marmite, Vegemite or any other additives. It just works (without random reboots). :p
[Nexus S General] alen1901:
I share the same opinion. Great developer who did much for nexus s, but too egocentric and arogant, who thinks its God and we are all his puppets. Im suprized XDA tolerates that kind of developers behaviour. And thats the only reason i dont use your kernel. i cannot expect some nice and helpfull, not you-are-all-stupid answer from you.

Also, you better not touch bedalus and marmite, he progressed so much and learned so much, he is also never giving up and listens to people. You should really show him some respect.
[Nexus S General] Warren_Orange:
It sure does!

I've been running it since Wednesday with no problems.

Definitely a keeper.

Thanks.
[Nexus S General] :
I'm not asking you to use my kernel. I don't actually care who uses it, as I have said on numerous other occasions yet that statement is consistently levelled at me as if I'm bothered. *shrugs*

I never did it for popularity or number of users, but in the end I still reached burnout. It was driving me up the wall.

I apologise for quitting, but XDA fuelled that burnout and I had to walk away from it for my own sanity. Do I look after my own health or do I spend my time doing something for free which is causing me all sorts of issues and isn't really appreciated? The problem is you demanding to be spoon-fed, and I won't do that.

The fact is, I find it insulting that you believe you have the right to demand politeness or helpfulness or the answer you want. It isn't a customer service centre and I don't bow to your needs. It was my project that I *chose* to release because people wanted it. You don't like my answers to 'stupid' questions then don't use it. Simple.

As for respect, I think you need to learn the facts about bedalus and his kernel.

He didn't show me or my work any respect when he wasted my time teaching him how to build a kernel which he released a few hours later on XDA. Whilst I was assisting him there was no mention of it being released, I was of the assumption that he was doing it for himself, but as I found out, he had other intentions all along.

When I looked at it, it was my kernel with a couple of patches, so he was just riding on the back of my work.

Obviously that displeased me quite a lot and I found it extremely insulting, particularly as I had used my time to help him build it. He even apologised for it.

With all due respect he is just one of the many cowboy developers on here doing it to boost his status. I did help him at first, but it's all about new versions with his kernel, there is very little testing, no planning and lots of obscure bugs, because he doesn't know what he is doing basically. Look through his thread if you can be bothered, but it's a fact.

Benchmarks, yes, he is good at those. Kernel development, no.

Anyway. I refuse to be drawn into another pointless argument on here. My opinion is my opinion. Yours is yours. Lets just leave it at that.

Use whatever you want, and if you aren't using something, why are you even commenting on their thread. Don't. It makes life much easier for everyone involved.

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