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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] OrionBG:
When flashing a ROM (Custom or Stock) there is always chance for something to go wrong! I'm almost sure that there is at least one semibricked or bricked phone for every rom here of in any other sub-forum on XDA!

If any of these people opened a new thread saying it is the ROMs fault, there wouldn't have left any developers here!

Maybe it was the phone's fault! Defect in the flash memory?

If your car breaks down do you accuse the oil / diesel that you poured in the tank or the car itself? Or maybe even yourself for driving too hard!

I for instance had an HTC HD2 not many years ago. Been flashing it with various ROMs. One day after a flash I found that the camera app was missing! I tried other camera apps and other ROMs but the camera was gone. Even the original WM6 ROM couldn't find it. I took it to the repair shop and it turned out that the camera module have malfunctioned!

So the moral of the story is?

Don't accuse a ROM (especially a stock ROM) that it is bricking phones until You are absolutely sure of this!!

P.S. Nothing personal! Just laying the facts
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Marchintosh:
I have ICS LPY with cf-root. I don't understand it. What's the kernel kernel dangerous? The kernel included in the pre-rooted version or cf-root kernel?

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] EdgaBimbam:
+1. I respect all those devs and cant say anything bad for them even if they would brick my phone because im not forced to use their roms, kernels and etc. In addition talking about that your mentioned hardbrick user, he bricked because tried flashing only kernel so it isnt counted as OFFICIAL firmware brick victim :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] GocaS6:
Chainfire also doesnt know if it's safe or not, that's why he just made an advice to avoide CWM till further notice.

Why? Because he made kernel with that exact CWM and he doesnt want to be guilty for someones ruined phone. Which is understandable.

But that doesnt say anything at all about safety of this kernel :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] robertberma:
This is the best way. I did it.

Dw rom.

Ectract with root explorer

Now you see tar.md5 file.

Rename that file by delete .md5

Now extract that file.

Now you see 5 file including zimage.

Replace that zimage for rooted zimage.

No rename that folder in firmware

Move that folder to ext sd card.

Now flash with cwm app normale.

Thats all
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Goldie:
Tomato tomato. Titles do not matter. Either way he knows a lot more than you or I do kidder , so I know who I listen too :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] OrionBG:
BTW Weren't the Exinos based devices Unbrickable? The USB Jig was just for such cases if I remember correctly. It should in theory be possible to revive any bricked Exinos (and even Hummingbird) based devices with USB Jig and PC Odin.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] robertberma:
I only listen too my mother...:p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Goldie:
Ahhhh yeah a jig! I bet Chas didn't think of trying that..... :rolleyes: :P
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] rajendrakumardbg:
Thank you so much for your reply. I am on a non rooted stock BL2 rom so can I flash ics directly through pc odin as pda...???
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Goldie:
Did someone accuse a ROM? I thought warning was regarding cwm functions in the kernel which isn't accusing the rom :)

Edit: the first line under "what does it mean" in the OP does indeed say you are at risk from the rom. This needs to be changed IMO.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] musashiro:
he tried... and it doesn't work
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Goldie:
I was being sarcastic mate :P
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] sjhotwings:
i'm downloading the ics rom while search around the forum, lucky i found this thread lol. can wait few weeks for ics, not gonna risk it
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] armukhtar:
yes..you can use pc odin

click to pda navigate to tar file
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] OrionBG:
They are accusing the Kernel that comes with the ROM!

But that aside why are we still using CWM recovery 5.0? There are much newer releases of it and there are other recoveries! For instance I'm in love with the 4EXT Touch recovery for the HTC Desire HD! It have the BEST graphical interface (for a recovery) that I have seen to date! It also have some small extras that I find useful!

I don't have the knowledge to port it but there are many people here that could do it! I hope...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] musashiro:
haha... being sarcastic might add more tense to the topic. and scare more users away :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Goldie:
The warning was for CWM functions with the kernel. Stock lpy doesn't come with cwm does it so the accusation is not aimed at stock lpy rom or kernel. Only the hacked kernel with cwm, right?

I did edit my post above to say a line in the OP is misleading though. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] M3TALLICA:
Agree may be stock kernel is safe.

I wiped with it 5 times , deleted a large 1.5 GB video file. Phone is still up.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Mickwa76:
Bh the time all this is sorted I'll have s SGS 3 in my pocket.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Goldie:
Precisely. I also think the stock kernel is fine

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] chasmodo:
I also feel that stock unrooted kernel is safe.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] androidindian:
agreed, just heard from neobuddy that he bricked his device when trying to root lpy kernel..Data partition got locked
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] M3TALLICA:
What method did he use to root?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] karapoutsoglou:
I totally confirm that flashing a cwm recovery has this horrible bug that was present and in some gb roms for my old gs 1.

The phone after i had put in, 600 apps,kept freezing,i got a very curious message about corrupted sd card and that i should format,generally the phone was dying.

So with mobile odin, after i formated both internal and external card and wiped everyting i installed a stock ics with inject root...and now everything is super fine.

and of course i have root.

i tried to smooth things a little with rom toolbox and wait for something stable.

but at least the phone with 600 and more apps behave so stable.

better be safe than sorry.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] M3TALLICA:
You confirm the bug but you say ics is safe?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] androidindian:
he was rooting the kernel himself , not the cf one. there seems to be a flag in kernel config of lpy, which makes it faulty when rooted.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] M3TALLICA:
I don't think so.

There are a lot of users using rooted kernel with mobile odin.

I'm no expert but may be he did something wrong while trying to find out a new method to root.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] karapoutsoglou:
ics is totally safe FOR ME AND MY EXPERIENCE I HAVE TILL NOW,with root and official kernel.

i have stressed it to the max the last 2 days and everything is smooth and no error or curious behaviour.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] androidflea:
@robertberma, of topic, but how about you share black Swype with all of us here, that will cheer a lot of people up, you did it before, heck you introduced it to a lot of people, what do you say?:):)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] tejesh.mundra:
I came from lc1 chinese ics release to stock lpy with cf root kernel had no isuess at all... Did a clean stall with mobile odin pro n then restored it with titanium backup...

With all the fuss abt lpy not being safe i thght i will remove cf root so again installed lpy without cf root over it and with root by mobile odin pro restored it with TB no issue with phone.

But this time i noticed i cnt go to recovery mode at all it is not thr tried with rom manager n it FCs and also used the conventional way.

In my Galaxy S u cn still boot into recovery mode even if u dnt have custom CWM.

I dnt remember if it was possie in gb stock for note.

So is it with every note or somthing is wrong with my recovery???

If yes u cnt boot into recovery without custom CWM was it thr in GB also or sammy added this in ICS????

Edit: got it with vol up power and home... But still fc in rom mngr

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] karapoutsoglou:
just did a test with rom manager and i can go perfectly to stock recovery console just like my good old sg1
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] waqas.sonic:
Have had ICS since it came out, stock with root. Everything was working fine but now having no deep sleep issues, inevitable I guess.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
pls don just take one of tbe statements only. i said

what does it mean?

- you risk bricking your phone if u use the LPY rom

- at this time, the exact problem areas are to be determined

- no evidence so far if this is due to cwm or cfroot's, or it could be the stock rom
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] blitzkriegh:
i'm happy with LPY at the moment with root and official kernel. after reading this topic, i quickly went back to GB LC2 rooted coming from Alba's LPY. Afterwards, i reflashed the LPY via Mobile ODin without flashing CF Kernel and still managed to keep full root.

So why do we need a CF kernel in the first place? Is it just because of CWM?

I remember when I was using HTC sensation, the devs there managed to get a recovery that's non-CWM based and also offered touch screen options.

Anyway, i hope this issue gets resolved at the soonest.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
i just cant believe why so many ppl think/believe that official roms are completely safe. no one is able to say his program/codes are 100% bugs free. more, stock roms are built from the sources, which lots of bugs were reported like ext4 bugs. so can the stock roms avoid these bugs? no
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] GocaS6:
I'm askin you again, on what bases or evidence you are makin this statement?

You're not developer and you don't know anything about development so only thing that i don't understand is why the hell are you so persistant?!

Ok you made an alert but give it up man, where the hell do you see that anybody hard bricked his phone and EVERYONE is flashin this ROM?! :eek:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] tejesh.mundra:
Ok tried again this time the vol up+ power+home worked.....:p pressed it till the time recovery poped up..

But rom manager still fcs... Is thr any other app i cn use will search the store but if anyone know any app pls tell me... Thanks

Sent from my GsTu-nNer7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] tysonraylee:
but we have to have something on our devices that do not pose risk to it. If official ROMs will not do then what are we supposed to use??
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] tejesh.mundra:
Yes only for cwm...

Sent from my GsTu-nNer7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
i didnt say the phone will surely be bricked. i didnt say cwm or recovery is confirmed to be unsafe. i didnt say the lpy is confirmed as the poblem area. did i?

what foundation u baesd on that u said i am not a developer? how can u say i know nothing about development? do i have to say if i corrected a bug in the linux kernel?

if u think someone is not a developer, that means u r a developer

if u say someone knows nothing about development then u must be an expert

so, as a developer, tell us the problem

as a knowledgeable person who knows everything about development, pls tell us how to fix this and why it harms and doesnt harm
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
i did ask ppl not to use stock roms. i only say that there is no bugs free roms/apps etc

ms windows is bugful, but we r still using it

more, if the stock roms are good enough, there will be only 1 single rom on earth but not lp1 lp2 lpy lpx
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Azeazezar:
I am not.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
just an example mate
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
as i mentioned, some ppl claimed OTA is affected also. so if OTA could brick a phone, why not the official ICS without CWM?

anyway, i cant confirm about this. i just wanna let ppl informed
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Mickwa76:
Will follow your advice, I was hesitant anyway to flash straight away. Let some of the developers make something decent first.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
to be honest, i really don care

i don wanna talk about it further but that's enough for me
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] musashiro:
i plan on using the device normally until this thing is CLARIFIED. for now no flash no wipe no cwm for me

its ok since my phone is ok. no bugs at all
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] PeterGChan:
So as long I don't use my CWM or go to CWM, everything fine i guess?:confused:

Im confused now, and I want to use this ICS.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Kikouyou:
Before this warning was posted....

Tried to install LPY rooted thru PC ODIN twice and got boot loop

Then loaded GB rooted thru PC ODIN and CF CWR GB kernel thru Mobile Odin

Then flashed Abyss42RedTouchOriginal and restored stunner (did it twice no problem)

From the warning, you should not use this LPY rom even if you do not use CRW as normal use may still corrupt flash

Back on Stunner 4.2.6.1

Just hope theses risks are lower on Stunner LP6, but not really sure....

Working on stunner since inception without issues so...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] eybee1970:
if you flash normally without 'Everroot' and CWM put in, it should be fine....but nobody really knows...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] EdgaBimbam:
Btw even if binary count reseted and no yellow triangle, warranty is valid if i brick phone?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] eybee1970:
yes.......
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] krazman325:
I'm obviously not a developer. I don't know if this will help or hinder.

After flashing LPY AND the CF-Root kernel for ICS yesterday, I didn't like Samsung's version of ICS (I won't go into details here.) I reverted back to GB (specifically, a deodexed, zipaligned, rooted LC1 and the franco.kernel) using Mobile Odin. In my ignorance, I didn't, and still don't know if that was dangerous or not! I did it exactly like the MO instructions for installing ICS but I started at step #4 (for both ICS and GB).

When MO was finished, it left me at the CWM Recovery screen instead of booting. I wiped cache and Dalvik, and then rebooted. All of my data and apps were gone! I have NEVER done a factory wipe on my Note. It was a virgin Note again.

I rebooted into recovery (power, vol up, home buttons) and did a full Nandroid Recovery. I also did a jBroid kernel wipe followed by re-flashing the franco.kernel #10. Rebooted into an intact and fully functional GB as if I had never tried ICS.

All apps, data, settings are fully functional. I cannot tell any difference from when I left GB.

I hope this helps to get things fixed. I would caution everyone to NOT follow my instructions until people more knowledgeable than myself have a look at this and decide if it is safe for everyone to use if they want to return to GB. I may have just been lucky to not have a hard brick!

Good Luck to all.

kraz

MUCH THANKS ykk_five
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] PeterGChan:
Maybe I should stay clear away from CWM at the moment till this is sorted out.:(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
i am sorry, i think no one can assure u at the moment.

anyway, this is just a warning. may be u r lucky and i am lucky, for now
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Cr4z33:
Oh crap... :(

So what if I want to revert back to Rocket ROM and I did a Nandroid backup?

My ICS is rooted.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
well, to be fair, it may not be a problem with cwm

and, i have to say that, i'm not blaming anyone
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] musashiro:
yeah...thats my plan as well.. lets do the stay-away-from-cwm method
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] PeterGChan:
Yeah! Just going to be extra careful now. Going to check this thread every now and then just to keep track.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] gangreu:
And now? Flashed Lpy yesterday, no problems, should i back to GB? For sure if i stay on Lpy will be my last flash (no mods or other things in CWM) until Samsung release a Brazilian ICS (months i believe).

Stay on LPY will bring troubles for me? Even if i dont change rom/kernel/bb?

Edited: Btw I'm using CF Root, flashed with mobile ondin, everoot checked and wiped everything, fresh install;
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] robertberma:
Makes for us a good safe kernel with uv oc!!!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Vulpix:
Just avoid using CWM for now.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] hykhleif:
what the hell

please know that this really sucks, as I liked the LPY rom with cf root alot

One simple question, I am now on stock LPY with cf root

I plan to go back to unrooted gingerbread first, and then just flash stock LPY rom through pc odin is that safe
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] tejesh.mundra:
CHECK THIS OUT.... Still this dose not say the rom has issues

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1633943

thanks to cb1100r for postin it....

Sent from my GsTu-nNer7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] blitzkriegh:
i appreciate the proactive announcements in the xda community about warnings on lpy and stuffs. but if I were to put the case of hardbricked cases versus those who successfully loaded ICS and enjoying the ICS features, as of this writing, it's just 1 is to hundreds or thousands or perhaps 2 is to hundreds/thousands.

it's not significant to rule out that it could be CWM or Rom's fault. It's just probably an error in the process somwhere of upgrading to ICS.

anyway, i'm not a developer, i'm just looking at the issue on an another angle. just sharing my thoughts.

cheer up guys, let's enjoy on what we have. we've waited for so long for the official note and now the Official Germany rom is already out there. In just a matter of days or weeks, the official roms for other countries will soon follow.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
it reads lpy is confirmed as affected. much stronger than what i said
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] robertberma:
Whahaha i love this thread. All this time wasted instead of developing.

I wonder when a moderator is closing this. This by far no development but more like talking like chicken without a head. Tok tok tok.i am a chicken tok tok

I think samsung is laughing at this thread. Sssst i can hear them. Whahaha
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] GocaS6:
First, You did't answer my question.

Second you heavnt said anything smart from the begining you just repeat like a parrot:

ALERT ALERT ALERT :eek:

no evidence no hard bricks no any problems with functionality of ROM (or Chainfire's kernel either) so wth are we talking about :confused:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] suwandiapr:
I will take the risk.. So what?

This is only warning..Ordinary warning!!

I think the issues is not what the affected kernel do..

But how to use the kernel safely..

And how to flash it in safe way..

All flash memory has a lifetime.. And we dont know too much what the affected kernel victim before brick..maybe he flashing too much.. I dont know.

IMHO
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] GocaS6:
I totaly agree with you on this.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] bamboo12:
so are u saying this thread is pretty pointless?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] robertberma:
Glad finaly someone agrees with me, does happen to often. Who said there are no risks in what we do. We all there are risks. A normale person just makes phone calls and brows a little with this phone. We xda are taking it apart and flash the most weird things. We all want a faster lees batt consume etc etc. offcourse it will come with risks da..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] blitzkriegh:
LOL. Classic! I love this:D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] sudisk:
I agree on this one. If more people did actually read the threads instead of chitchatting all over the place we might have a clearer understanding of this issue.

I will wait for source release to see what Samsung changed that might cause CWM issues. In the mean time, I will use the good old redpill method to do my wipes. This at least has shown to be more robust than current CF cwm.

Sent from the great Note
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] MASAkReZ:
Mine works like a charm with LPY

Enviado desde mi GT-N7000 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] sudisk:
Not originally, but what most posters have made of it.

Sent from the great Note
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] tysonraylee:
yes because if you read this thread from the first page it only says like "maybe" or "maybe not". It doesnt provide anything substantial besides being just a precaution.

Anyways we do flashing and modding on our risk, this is well known to everybody.

And by the posts that i am reading in other sections most of the members have flashed successfully. Only people having problems are the one who didnt follow proper procedure.

I think what we need is a tutorial/guide to show how to flash the LPY kernel properly and that should solve all the problems
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
Entropy512 has confirmed this, i didnt. ask him for details why he confirmed it is affected.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] GocaS6:
Yes eventualy i will and he's gonna tell me what i already know because man is smart and he we'll not make any conclusion without evidence.

For time being be careful and be smart, i think that all devs will tell you this in this situation.

And you should take a break... for couple of months or so.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] yllivia:
Its been more thean 24 h in a single charge since i installed ICS on my Note. I had a kka kernel and flashed LPY firmware togehter with CF-root via Mobile odin pro. Everything went smooth. I haven't had a single FC yet. My phone is still fully rooted, TB is working without problems. But i haven't tested everything, just wanted to say that maybe i am not the unlucky one of those 5% (unconfirmed) that are having issues.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] MatanZ:
But he is only guessing, so his confirmation does not mean much.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ykkfive:
so comeon, a developer who know everything about development. i know nothing, just tell me the whole story.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] npras42:
lol. I'm just going to point out that little title under his name that says "Recognised Developer" and then look at some of his work on freeing up NAND, kernel tweaks, Bravia MOD port etc and leve it there.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] musashiro:
yeah,,, whats even worse is that Chainfire uses the word "maybe" on his tweet to me..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] GocaS6:
You people stay on GB and dont worry :). This conversation is pointless :).

Goca out ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] M3TALLICA:
I have no fear!

I'm lovin' this thread and new ICS.

YUMMY!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Marchintosh:
Idem :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] m3dd0g:
When you have big balls flash ics :D sorry...

This thread is sensless I hope a moderator will close it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] M3TALLICA:
Put the joke aside guys. I'm on pure stock. No root or cwm.

And waiting for further info by Chainfire and Entropy.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] lingamkrishnan:
Could you please share the Pre-rooted LC2?