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[HTC One S] Gambler_3:
The xperia S has it's own problems. It does not use an IPS screen and has limited viewing angles, I would have to check the phone to see just how limited they are as I am very sensitive about viewing angles.

The face touch buttons are apparently a nightmare to get used to. But both these issues would be clear when I get to spend a good amount of time with the phone. The camera along with dedicated shutter button is indeed one of the best things about it.

And yes really strange that samsung didnt release a 32GB GSM galaxy nexus, a total deal breaker again but this is more to do with google than samsung. And you know since galaxy nexus uses unified storage atleast it becomes a bit more acceptable as you dont have separate partition for apps and storage.
[HTC One S] Mazzstrikers:
Yup the viewing angles are quite a waste, since the screen is excellent when viewed head on. In fact I can vouch for that. Have you seen Sony's Bravia LCDs at the store? Their expertise in making LCD panels really show, with great colour reproduction and accuracy. At the sweet spot I can even say colours are more vibrant than the run-of-the-mill IPS screens and black levels are dangerously close to AMOLEDs. You'd probably have to see the demo unit!

Anyway, do choose wisely. Viewing angles can be accustomed to but not the lack of storage.
[HTC One S] Reviewers:
If 16GB is $600 brand new.

32GB will be +$800 brand new.
[HTC One S] MadJoe:
So be it. But I doubt that. $650-700 tops.
[HTC One S] jmitr:
Your point?

Edit, decided to lookup the icrap 4s for laughs, here in Canada:

4S 16gb $649

4S 32gb $749

4S 64gb $849

So, I too debate your price difference, unless Apple has a patent on $100 increments, seems fair to me.

Come on One S XE / Two S!
[HTC One S] krazygreen:
Cry me a river.

The One S is fine and offers 25gb cloud storage for your obsessive use of "teh gigabytez".

The amount we get is fine for most people for day to day use. Android apps tend to be less bulky in size opposed to iOS and for the most part, the great battery life and build quality make up for lack of expandable storage.

So please, don't act like you're the voice of Joe Consumer. The average user has no bind with the storage and doesnt root and create 10 useless nand backups without deleting the ones you're never going to use regardless.

/end rant.
[HTC One S] MadJoe:
Funny how some people's panties get all in a wad over someone suggesting something could be better if there was a little variety... I wonder if they also run into grocery stores and scream that "there's absolutely no reason to offer more than one type of cereal!". What a sad life.
[HTC One S] krazygreen:
Yup, let me go to Albertons and rant to all the employee's about why Ralph's is the better supermarket.

That's exactly what the OP is doing.

Sad life is wasting your time thinking everyone wants everything to be how you want it! Wahhh little girl, you won't get your wittle pink pony, should everyone else suffer? There are millions of consumers who are perfectly happy with their One S, but you don't see me going to the SGS2 forum complaining about their 480x800 resolution makes for a 2010-esque device that isn't worth buying.

To each their own, but at the same token, here's a small violin so you can cry about things that you honestly don't give a crap about but complain for the sake of complaining, they call 'em whiners where I'm from.
[HTC One S] MadJoe:
Pot, meet Kettle.
[HTC One S] O0cynix0o:
And with that.....I'm out.

/unsubscribe

Sent from my rooted and debloated T Mobile HTC One S
[HTC One S] coupetastic-droid:
Since we're in the subject of sdcard space and now consumer preference. What makes yous think the regular cell pone consumer is going to know how to use, even yet want to use cloud storage? People want their personal stuff with them and easily available to them. I keep seeing people saying cloud storage is the future. I believe the regular consumer would rather use SD cards for storage perouses.
[HTC One S] jacewt:
I'd suggest the average consumer doesn't even know how to buy an sd card. It's been that way since the first digital cameras.

Best selling phone is an iphone and they don't get a lot of cloud space with it or an sd card. You know how many people I have seen come to me wondering if they should purchase more cloud space?

I think regular people want something that works and is easy to operate. The rest is numbers they not care about (processors, etc.).

Would I have liked an sd card? You bet. Can I live without it? Yep, I chose to. My music streams with google and amazon (I haven't paid for either), it's much easier for me to manage that then to be continually plugging my phone to the computer and putting in my music. Besides, I still have an old mp3 player for long trips where I don't get a good signal.

Would I have liked 32 gigs? Sure, but it's not necessary and I wouldn't have wanted to pay more for it than I did.

Now, the average joe, he sees a commercial and wants the things the commercial says the phone can do. That's it.
[HTC One S] coupetastic-droid:
How is this so? People not knowing where to buy an SD card. That's just doesn't make sense to me. How long have SD cards been around? How many places sell SD cards? Every where you go they sell one, even at pharmacies.

When you buy a device they have some right at checker. They even ask you when you're buying a device if you want to buy an SD card if the device doesn't come with one or if you want a bigger capacity one.

SD cards are everywhere and are way simpler to use. No hassle, no worries. You slip it in and go.

Cloud storage, you have to sign up first of all, which alot of people won't be willing to do. To upload, download, retrieve from cloud, which ever the case is, if there's limited to no service, you won't be able to do anything with cloud.

It will be such a hassle and frustration not being able to retrieve a photo, song/album or important file when you want to or are in need of it just because you have that one thing in cloud storage and can't access it because you have no service. Also, one of my worst personal fears. Cloud storage from which ever service, the servers crashing. Cloud storage just brings me back to the sidekick days where they also kept everything in servers just like cloud storage now. Guess what, it crashed. Everyone with a sidekick lost everything. Me being one of them people.

I'm not saying cloud is a bad thing. But don't try to replace something more native and simpler just because you want to make a few more bucks. Give us the option. Give us the option of either buying a device with bigger internal storage no matter of the price or keep making devices with external SD card slots.

Just my 2 cents.
[HTC One S] madalinpascu:
hey guys, think of that: HTC Sensation smartphones were delivered with an 8gb micro-sd card while they have 3 gb available memory inside the phone (only 1.1 gb available to user for installing apps)

the One S has 10 gb free space as sdcard + 2.2 gb available for apps.

so............it's an improvement:D
[HTC One S] coupetastic-droid:
How is it an improvement? One s=10gb internal none expandable, sensation= 8gb external card expandable up to 32gb.

That's kills the one s 13gb top space.

I utilize my mobile device for what it was intend to be, a mobile device. I take alot of pictures, video, store alot of important PDF files and keep all my music with me at all times.

I have a 32gb SD card and I'm already over 16gb.
[HTC One S] jmitr:
Well, i'm out of here as well,

You're positively correct of course, that's why Apple never sells Iphones with more storage, I mean they sit on the shelves and don't move because joe consumer doesn't like variety. Must be why Apple is a distant third place company, Samsung a close second and HTC has all the market share.

I've owned HTC phones since they first made pdas into phones. HTC wants to slim down their line up, some of us feel they're going about it the wrong way and should offer more choice in the flagship models they sell.

And here I am trying to debate with an idiot,
[HTC One S] madalinpascu:
I was joking, I also agree that this is stupid not to let an external card space on the phone. Currently I have a Sensation with a 32 gb sd card and I have only 7 gb left.

But what could we do. Just hope that Htc will hear us and release a 32 gb or more version
[HTC One S] Mazzstrikers:
Cloud storage is never going to be the future in my opinion.

1) It requires an internet connection. So what if you want to listen to music in the underground rail or aeroplane where there is no connection?

2) For cloud when you need to play or work with files you still have to download them to a storage device, so it defeats the purpose.

3) Downloading the files before using is a sheer waste of time.

In conclusion cloud storage will never replace proper storage.
[HTC One S] azzledazzle:
But in time it will !!

Cloud storage is the start of a new era, SD cards will be a thing of the past.. just like floppy discs and such..

Planes and Ships are now starting to have wifi, Some planes allow you to use your phone mid-flight.

technology is progressing at super speeds, and although you love your trusty SD card (who doesn't?) its safe to say that eventually, people will laugh when you say you used to have an SD card..

look at the tmobile full monty package, Unlimited everything, it wont be long before all carriers are offering deals like this, And 4g speeds are almost on par with a decent wifi speed.. So streaming from the cloud will be as stable as playing directly from a storage device...

I Know its a pain having no SD card, But HTC are trying to spice things up be the first to try new stuff... It just takes time to get used to lol

What about when floppy discs went extinct ? Surely all the business people who had important stuff on them where devastated when they stopped being produced, But the world didn't end, it just progressed onto something new(er) and if you was to come across someone looking to buy a pack of floppy discs and a floppy disc drive,, you would probably laugh in his face and tell him to 'get with the times dude'
[HTC One S] dc211:
I think Micro SD cards will be around for awhile personally. The biggest difference between a Floppy Disk and a Micro SD card is size. A floppy is the size of your hand and a micro sd card is the size of your finger nail.

I have pretty much every possible type of computing device. All my really important files are backed up to the cloud so if I lose any device for any reason I can replace the hardware and be back up and running in no time. However, local storage is far superior to the cloud in every possible way.

My real problem with the phone only have 16gb of storage is the trivial cost of it. The phone retails for $600. The wholesale cost of 16gb of nand storage is nothing. What like $10 tops?
[HTC One S] Ansem:
there isn't a method for resize the original partition? :(

in the galaxy nexus I have all the 16GB in one partition,and not 3/4 like one s :(
[HTC One S] seangprice:
I would have liked more storage for comfort and future needs but I never used all the internal or external on my G2x. I'm a satisfied customer.
[HTC One S] dorezen:
i def agree with the op that t-mobile should have offered the one s in 32gb instead of the 16 - or make both options available with $50 - $100 price difference. truth is, memory prices are dirt cheap so i would imagine $100 should cover it and then some (just look at ssd prices in recent times).

there is one important fact i think hasn't been mentioned and that is t-mobile made a decision to only carry the one s for now and for that, that makes it t-mobile's current high end (possibly flagship) android phone. with that, it would make sense to offer the phone with high-end feature including more storage. this is all regardless of how htc classifies their one s line because t-mobile only carries one model out of the 3. same goes for at&t, it's a joke their one x only has 16gb vs. international version's 32gb.

another main draw for me is the updated 8mp camera everyone's been talking about. with something like that, for sure people will want to use it more to take picts and videos and once again, 16gb is not enough. i don't know what type of compression the phone uses but i would imagine hd videos recorded to take up quite a bit of space. i haven't even got to talking about movies and music that you want to carry with you.

WTF HTC? i really would like the one s as it's perfect in size and not bulky at all and i'm holding out for a v2.0 with either more internal storage or expandable memory.

i'm sure there are some politics in play behind the scenes between htc and t-mobile/at&t but at the same time, i would think that if both companies demanded 32gb in their phones that they would've gotten it. something's not right here.
[HTC One S] Circledog:
My hopefully uncontroversial take on it is this. I love the phone, the only things that would make it better would be an SD card slot, removable battery and a better data connection cuz mine flakes out on wifi or mobile network. I have never been attracted to Iphones because of the lack of SD and removable battery. I think if HTC would have had the SD slot and battery removable it would appeal to a bigger fan base.

I plan to keep this phone until something better comes along on Tmobile, I get an upgrade in July (upgraded my sons line to get this phone) and will pass this one along to my wife who could give a rats but about SD cards and batteries. I love the cloud, but I also love having all of my music, pics, work data available on my phone for when I don't have a steady internet connection. I also like shooting a ton of pics and video of my kids and some of our family trips take us to parts of Minnesota that have no Tmobile coverage.

HTC One S as is - Great phone

HTC One S with SD card slot, removable batt - Awesome phone
[HTC One S] Mazzstrikers:
Yes I definitely agree with all of you here. So my advice is to boycott the 16GB version. Consider another phone. Because if you guys compromise and purchase the 16GB version your carrier or HTC will only get complacent and think that consumers will condescend to use a phone of lower internal storage if they like the phone. It'd be a joke if the next generation of HTC phones that comes to your carriers are 16GB again.
[HTC One S] asestar:
I have a early 2010 model HTC Desire. That phone has about 150mb internal storage but a 16gb class10 sdcard that cost me about 25€.

I have gotten used to having 10-15 movie clips (stand-up shows/music etc), 8-12hours of music, 3 nand backups, titanium backups of my apps/data and a couple of rom images on phone at all time without having to think about running out of space when taking pictures/videos.

So how can i possibly "upgrade" to a One S? With bigger internal rom Nand backups will be atleast twice as big. With much better camera videos and photos will be more than twice as large. And keeping my old habits along will mean those 10Gb running out pretty fast.

And i do not like the huge, battery hog that is OneX.. I want something compact. What are my options for upgrade? Currently only Galaxy S2 or Motorola Razr
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
take some marketing classes and you'd know why
[HTC One S] kuroneko007:
I did exactly the same upgrade.

First, I realized that I don't need that much music on my phone in the first place.

But anyway, all my music is now on Google Play Music.

My photos all get uploaded automatically to Google+ as well as Dropbox, so no need to store them on the phone.

Titanium Backup syncs with Dropbox, Box and Google drive, so no need to keep my backups on the phone.

I don't watch movies on the phone, but if I did, I'd have 7 gig space left to store them. And then I could put some more in my 30 gigs of Dropbox space just in case.

It's a different way of thinking, but perfectly doable.
[HTC One S] Shadow2344:
I don't know why they did something like this. Maybe the price (I have a doubt on that one) ? It was the only thing which makes me think of buying a One X instead. Finally, I choosed the One S and I don't regret it !! I just have to be careful when I install an app.
[HTC One S] kuroneko007:
This.
[HTC One S] elracing21:
This is exactly how I manage my phone except I do watch movies. I'm an overnight doorman so I get bored but what I do is store about 5 movies ranging from 200mb to almost 1g and when I watch them all I move them to dropbox and delete from memory and add new.ones to watch.

Right now I have 3 films and 100 songs about 50 pics and a few short clips on my phone and still have 6.6 gigs.

This is something everyone should have thought about when adopting the one s.

Sent from my HTC one sex
[HTC One S] hendrik_v:
Just my personal opinion: I want either a device that can hold everything I want (probably more than 64gb required), or I will forfeit having that and then it doesn't matter if it has 16 or 32 or 64gb of storage.

So I forfeited having enough storage, and 16gb is enough for anything else I need.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
So right now I have

- 1.5 GB of pictures/video clips

- 720p movie (Terminator 2)

- 5000+ songs

- 95 downloaded apps

And I still have over 3 GB free (across the three partitions)
[HTC One S] zeroprobe:
Is it the Kernel Source we are waiting for so we can repartition the space?
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
I believe so.
[HTC One S] v3n3:
Thats also what I think.

I didnt buy the One S because I want an Allround-Device, Im totally happy with my 32GB iPod 3g handling my Music needs, so I can use my phone for everything else.

Not to mention that my Battery would die way faster if the One S would be an allround device, but right now Im pretty happy with everything the way it is.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
This is where I disagree. What is the use of such a big powerful device when you will still need to carry a separate music player, separate camera, etc etc?
[HTC One S] v3n3:
Im a photographer anyway, so I pretty much always carry my camera with me :-P

For me its the best solution how I do it right now, just wanted to share my point of view.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
That's all good. I officially merged music player and phone into one back in 2008 when I got my first smartphone, but I always carried a point and shoot camera because phone cameras were always ****. But with the One S having such a good camera (for casual pics) I can finally merge the camera too. And considering the phone is "beats" branded, you would kinda expect it to be your music player. That's the reason for my annoyance at giving us just 10GB of space.
[HTC One S] jacewt:
I think since the days of audiogalaxy, I have not carried around a player. I streamed everything to my phone. On my old phone, I swapped sd cards a few times because my phone was really limited in terms of space for apps. I then started using Google Music (play) and then Amazon MP3 and I have not looked back. Instead of constantly updating my other devices with new music, I just upload to the cloud. I can then play the music anywhere, my 2 laptops, my 2 PCs, my work pcs, my tablet, my phone. You get the picture. To load my music into all those devices is a redundant waste of space.

I knew all this coming to the One S and knew it would be perfect for me. So far, it's doing exactly what I want it to.

Also, I have netflix and I stream movies. And if I wanted to watch a movie where I could not get online, I'd probably want my tablet for that (i.e. a plane).

I also understand that other people manage things differently.

I will admit that there was one time when my music strategy failed me. This was with an old phone and I took a road trip. The signal was so bad at times that music would not stream. I have an old music player with me that I would take on a road trip with me. Or I could upload a few gigs to my phone just for the trip.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
^ Yea the streaming thing would never work for me because:

a) I don't like the idea of ALL my stuff being on some random server somewhere

b) I only get 1 GB data per month

c) Streaming eats battery

d) I am often in areas with poor signal

However, after a bit of trickery like I mentioned earlier I managed to get my 5000+ song library on the One S with a few GB still to spare :D
[HTC One S] ricky176bx:
I have to say 16gigs is just enough for a cell phone, if i wanted a 32 gigs device i would go for a tablet..
[HTC One S] coupetastic-droid:
I wonder what would happen when you have a bunch of pics, music and files that have not been synced yet, saved to the one s internal storage and the device takes a **** and does not want to turn on anymore?.....hmmmm
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Backup to my laptop ;)
[HTC One S] coupetastic-droid:
Then what's the point of such a powerful mobile device when you have to worry about all the extra things to do to assure you have stuff with you and safe?

I guess I will never see the benifits of cloud and internal storage...
[HTC One S] azzledazzle:
well what about your external SD packing up (say we had one) ?? Its not rare for this to happen ? What if you have 16gb worth of stuff on an SD and it gets corrupted an needs formatting ??

what if the world ends ?

what if the nazi's return ?

what if world war 3 starts ?

What if we run out of oil ?

What if I need a poo when im on the bus ?

What if........... ?
[HTC One S] Ansem:
so for now there isn't some kernel that can resize the partition? :(
[HTC One S] biggyt:
Another fan/user of Google music
[HTC One S] dareas:
lol :D

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Galaxy S2 has 16 gb of memory, but not all usable. SD is 11.50 gig, 1.97 gig phone memory which makes about 2.5 gigs used by system. This is very good even great when you know you have external sd card slot (mine is 32 gb :D) but the bad is that we can't install apps/download games cache on the ext sd. And the best games are about 1gb (N. O. V. A 3 is 2gb lol) and I run out of memory very quick. Manufacturers definitely need to put at least 32 gb in their phones and not only rely on external sd card!
[HTC One S] jmitr:
I can't resist,

Have you even read the entire thread? If so you may notice the same posts over and over again, same arguements and counter arguements.

Google music IS ONLY FOR THE UNITED STATES. I am so **@!* glad it works for you, it is not useable for a large majority of people on XDA because we do not live in the United States. Yeah, I can trick my phone into thinking I am in the U.S, and get pandora while i'm at it, but that is not exactly an ideal solution.

So go ahead, post something that has been posted, countered, and posted again so many times it's actually funny.

But ALL of you cloud lovers must be right, cause Apple can't seem to sell any 32gb or 64gb Iphones. That fruit company loves telling their users how to use their phones, but even those control freaks have figured out you need to give consumers choice when it comes to storage.

To me the One S is the perfect phone, physical size, camera, software, but I am voting with my wallet and skipping it until HTC figures out some people may want a wee bit more than 9.8gb of user storage.

Maximum three pages from now someone will say "hey guys, just use google music" because they don't read either.
[HTC One S] GGWC808:
I read, and know it's been said before, but I think this point is important.

What happens when you have no signal or wifi?

All your uploaded music, pictures, and videos don't mean anything. You'll be stuck with whatever you have on your phone. Especially with TMobile USA, if you're deep indoors, good luck on getting a signal.
[HTC One S] louis.b:
there's a thread in the ATT HOX's section which shows you how to use Google Music outside the US.