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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgrinst1:
You're right - that is also happening to me...

I hadn't really noticed before as I usually pick up by the third ring, but judging by the PBXes forum, that appears to be an old problem...

I retried with Nimbuzz-out and Bria and the same thing happens, so it is on the PBXes end.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Settings for the native SIP client can be managed using the Secure Settings plugin for Tasker - though the plugin is not yet 100% reliable on JB.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] muyoso:
Yea, its not something that will stop me from using this setup, but there has to be some reason that it does this. Perhaps its just a weird quirk from PBXes or something. Been fussing around with all of the settings on that site and I have no idea what I am doing with half of them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] emd2009:
Can I use boost mobile with this guide?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SysAdmNj:
If this was answered before, sorry but search is disabled at the moment.

1. Can you just walked into a tmobile store with your gsm unlockd nexus and ask for this plan? $30 prepaid one?

2. Or can you go to walmart and buy their cheapest tmo phone and use the sims card in your phone and activate it for the $30 plan?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipole:
I think the 30 plan is only over the internet, they wouldn't do it at my local tmobile
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Sure, I suppose... except that Boost Mobile is CDMA, so you probably won't be able to get a Galaxy Nexus to work with them :-D But otherwise, sure, grab a Boost Android phone and set up a similar Tasker rig.

Nope. The $30/mo 5GB plan is "Available exclusively in-store at Walmart, on Walmart.com, and T-Mobile.com". If you walk into the store and ask for the $30 prepaid plan, you'll get 1500 minutes and 30MB of data.

Yes, that should work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigdoug2005:
Just buy this:

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Sorry so just to clarify, we just put that SIM card into our phone (gnex, etc) and then it will be activated for the prepaid plan (assuming we select that once we buy the sim card)- sound accurate? Just double checking as I will be doing it this wkend.

Thx.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Yes use that.

You activate it online here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate

Its an "online only" and "new activations only" plan. You go online and set it up and fill the account there. Be sure not to accidentally pick up the other $30 plan, which is 1500 talk and 30mb data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Nice- thanks for the info. Tmobile rep is telling me right now that the 99 cents SIM Card sale is today only and tomorrow it will be back up to $6. Not sure if they are just trying to rope in my sale or not, but I am biting..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eclipxe:
Is anyone having an issue with GrooveIP not allowing you to change the volume during a call? (I'm on JB)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eagles20015:
I know its new activations only but has anyone had any luck convincing a rep to let them use their old sim card and number after getting out of their contract?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigdoug2005:
If you cant get them to put you on that plan you could port your existing number to Google Voice and then just buy a new prepaid SIM. However, this would force you down the Google Voice route.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kcshmo:
So I activiated the $30 plan successfully online. I got the TMobile Vibrant when it first came out, thinking that my contract would be up in August of this year. So I activate it now which would give me a month to get a feel of how it's going to work for me. I also ordered a $30 card from CallingMart thinking I can use that on next months services.

I called TMobile today to see when my contract actually expires. I was told it's not ending until November of this year because I had a plan changed. So I was screwed by TMobile, I remember specifically asking them if the change would extend the contract, and I was told no. Otherwise, I wouldn't have extended the contract, because I didn't get phone with that change.

Anyway, I have a $30 card from CallingMart that I haven't used, and I am not going to activiated because I don't need two phone at the same time. However the $30 card is only good for 90 days which will expire before my contract. Please anyone interested, please PM me. You can have it for $25.

I apologize if this violated any rules, I am not trying to make any money off of this. Just trying not to loose it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I think I have an idea on how to get it setup so that the native SIP client is only used on WIFI. I might have to email the developer of Secure Settings to do it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if under your SIP accounts (native dialer) you uncheck "set as primary account" and save it, then your calls will not go through the SIP, instead forcing them to use cell towers/minutes. So if you could work it in to your Tasker profile to check this box when you are connected to a trusted WIFI network and uncheck it when you are disconnected from it, this should do the trick, no?

Can someone help me to verify if this is correct?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Yeah this isn't a bug I don't think. Volume keys have never changed my GrooVe IP call volume while in a call.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Close, but I don't quite think that would work (at least for my usage case). Yes, it would let you toggle between VoIP and voice calls - but Secure Settings already does this with the SIP: Call Options option. I (at least) still need a way to automatically toggle the settings in the Google Voice app for how outgoing calls should be handled. Currently, my "Use Google Voice for all calls" setting overrides the configuration of the native SIP client which prevents me from making SIP calls while Airplane Mode is enabled.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigdoug2005:
Well one way it could work is to not worry about airplane mode but instead of setting "Use Google Voice for all calls" use the "Ask each time" setting. When you go to make an outgoing call it will pop-up asking if you want to use google voice. If you pick "Use Google voice" it will use the cell network and use minutes. If you pick "Don't use Google voice" it will then go over VOIP either via the data network or WIFI as long as the native SIP is set as primary. Yes, this does add one more button to click for outgoing calls but removes both the airplane mode toggling and sipdroid running in the background. The one setting that needs to be toggled is "Receive incoming calls" otherwise every call will come over the data network and voice network simultaneously and the VoIP will take priority when you answer. If you are somewhere with no Wifi or an Edge connection it will not be pretty.

The cool thing about this setup is that if you have good 3g/4g coverage and make a call you can easily send that over VoIP. Since you can receive calls at any point of the day you can't rely on having a great 3g/4g connection so that's why I would want that to be the default only when I'm on Wifi.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mau006:
CM9 and the subzero kernel make the Vibrant feel like not such an old phone at all. I just upgraded from that to a GNexus with jellybean and it really didn't feel like I skipped ahead tech wise as much as I thought it would, because xda makes old phones so awesome. They also have the same GPU I believe.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eclipxe:
Thanks - turns out they only work if the screen is on
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evodon84:
Really great thread OP. Just the kind of info I am looking for to break the bonds of my ATT contract.

sent from tapatalk app on GS2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ImSoHungry:
Dude, fantastic guide. I fly all over the world for work and you just saved me from buying local sims on my Gnex. I can just hop on a WiFi network and place calls like i am back in NY!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgrinst1:
Just a suggestion to modify the OP to say that even though GV is "unlimited", PBXes allows free accounts up to 2,000 minutes in calls per month.

Which still isn't bad if you are looking to supplement a 100 minute plan...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
This is certainly an option (and a good one at that!), and I have experimented with similar configurations. For my needs and usage, I stick with my setup for two main reasons.

Airplane Mode - I haven't given my carrier number to anyone, so I absolutely do not wish to accept calls made directly to that number. I spend 80% of my time connected to one of two WiFi networks so being able to automatically ignore those unwanted calls is pretty slick.

Ease of use - once configure, everything is automatic and I don't need to do anything out of the ordinary to make or receive calls.

Again, this is just for how I want to use my phone. Your advice will likely serve other folks quite well, and I thank you for contributing.

Very good info. Do you know if this is for all PBXes free lines, or just the Google Talk handler? Do you perhaps have a link that I could reference?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgrinst1:
Yes, I'll point you the way and should have earlier... log into your PBXes account and click on the "Usage" link on the left margin. It will show your basic account (all PBXes free lines) as having an allowance of 2000 minutes. If you buy any of the premium services, you will get 5000 minutes, etc..

Also, click on the "Premium account > More details" in the left margin, and you will get the whole picture, literally...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Thanks for that info. Though really if you need more than a few hundred minutes in a month you would probably be better off on another plan rather than this $30 100min T-Mobile one. ;-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] welchertc:
Damn. This is the most thorough guide for anything I have seen ever. I definitely need to bookmark this for when I get off my family plan and onto my own. Realistically I should just have my family ditch the plan altogether and set them all up with this, but that would be a hassle for me. Thanks for the guide!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Think that's probably a bit much unless your entire family is a bunch of nerds. This is still far too involved with too many moving parts for a "normal" user to configure and use daily. Especially if something goes wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] housry23:
I just bought an unlocked Google I/O Galaxy Nexus! I am going to follow your guide and try the T-Mobile $30 plan. Right now with insurance and everything, I pay Verizon $104 a month. It is ridiculous! I'm so ready to be done with contacts. I've been reading the Own your own cell service thread for a while and had decided on the T-Mobile $30 plan a while ago. I rarely make or get calls. Most of my communication is through text messages. It's great that you have made an easy to follow guide in using VOIP and I love the tasker thing. Thanks for this. I am sure it took you a lot of time to create this guide and get it just right. I very much appreciate it! I'll let you know how everything goes when I get it switched over!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ohwellariel:
I like the use of prepay widget, but those shortcodes don't seem to work with Sipdroid. Has anyone tried using Tasker to make a toggle widget? This would also be great for leaving Sipdroid enabled over 3g/4g but easily switched on or off depending on where you are. I've tried something like this task:

1. Variable Set
Name %Sipdroid_state To 0 (If %Sipdroid_state ! Set)
2. Goto
Type Action Number Number 8 (If %Sipdroid_state = 1)
3. Load App
App Sipdroid
4. Set Widget Icon
5. Set Widget Label
Label On
6. Variable Set
Name %Sipdroid_state To 1
7. Stop
8. Kill App
App Sipdroid Use Root Off
9. Set Widget Icon
10. Set Widget Label
Label Off
11. Variable Set
Name %Sipdroid_state To 0
12. Stop

It doesn't seem to work since I don't have root but maybe it would if I rooted my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Agreed. This prepaid thing is awesome but it is not for everyone. Pay close attention to the items listed in red in the first post. Just like I wouldn't root an Android device for someone who isn't already technically savvy, I wouldn't push this prepaid setup on someone who didn't fully know what they were getting into. That said, the Straight Talk plans may be easier for the average person to swallow.

Often you will find that family plans can be almost as good of a deal; the only real downside is that they are still contract based.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krazykeyur:
sipdroid + PBXes + Google Voice combination is amazing.

I'm using the speex codec (11 kbps) and it works just fine. Just had a 29 minute call with my wife (who is in India currently) and audio was flawless. I was on 4g connection the entire time and wifi turned off. Next time I'll try calling her on EDGE to see if there is a difference.

In sipdroid settings..under PBXes features, there's an option "Improve Audio". I'm not sure what it does..but I have it checked anyways.

Long live VoIP!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Thanks to your guide I was able to setup the tasker and it works perfectly with one exception. After I installed Onavo Extend and I switch between WiFi and data the Airplane mode does not come on. I get a error unable to connect to www.google.com blah blah. I tried several times with the same results. Once I disabled it everything works again.

Do you have this issue? Do you have a different setting or something?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
There are quite a few settings, but I haven't made any exotic configurations. Were there any in particular that interested you?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
How does tasker reconnect to mobile radios once disconnected from wifi

Nvm found it to end with task if statement. I'll post mine up tomm mine has quite a few less steps
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xur17:
Out of curiosity, what speaker and microphone settings do you use (the volume levels)?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eksasol:
Besides free call, you can also text for free (using Talkatone or the Google Voice app) and not pay the ATT $20 texting fee. Choosing a very easy phone number that everyone can remember is a good idea and not having to give out your real one. This was what I did for two of my friends:

-ATT 3G + WiFi, iPhone, Talkatone:

I haven't had any complains with this setup, probably since the person always get good signal and stay in one place with WiFi signal. You have to dial within the Talkatone app, but it integrate really well with the iPhone, so you don't miss incoming calls. It has its own call logs and texting window. I much prefer it over GrooVe IP and it seems to work good on iPad too. I have not used the Android version of Talkatone though.

-T-Mobile 3G, Android, GrooVe IP:

This one was a fail. Since T-Mobile probably doesn't have best 3G signal penetration so the person keeps losing signal. Also there can be issues with echo, I don't know how bad this issue compared with Talkatone. Also you have to remember to set WiFi to never turn off or in GrooVe IP option set it to keep screen on during calls. I don't entirely blame the app, but I guess its more to do with getting good data signals.

I wouldn't recommending choosing this option primarily, I would rather refer to the prepaid thread and check out Simple Mobile or Straight Talk first. Overall, I think if you have strong signal or remain stationary in a WiFi area then its good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I have never bothered with either of those settings, the defaults seem to work fine for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
It reconnects to the mobile network after wifi is disconnected because then the profile's context ("wifi connected") is no longer satisfied, thus triggering the exit task (Airplane Mode off).

I do look forward to seeing what ideas others can come up with. I have a tendency to start with a simple solution and gradually over-engineer it as I add new features and error-handling.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Yeah, I'm not sure I would count on using any Voip solution unless I knew I would spend a great deal of time with an active wifi connection. The few times that I tried it (previously, with my Nexus One on AT&T) I wasn't very impressed.

The nice thing with the $30 prepaid plan is that even if I do go over the 100 minute allotment, it's only 10c per minute. I could wind up using a total of 500 mobile voice minutes without paying more than I would for the next plan with 5GB data - and I can save quite a bit of money on months I keep my voice usage down.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Hmm. I'm sure that connectivity test could use some tweaking, but it has been fairly solid for me.

You say that the airplane mode does not come on when switching from wifi to data... it shouldn't. We want the airplane mode to engage when you connect to wifi. Once you disconnect from the wifi network, the profile's Exit Task (Airplane Mode off) should switch you back to mobile data.

Or am I misinterpreting the issue you are having?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] colonelcack:
Every setting really. I haven't perfected groove ip on the galaxy nexus yet. Seems like some people complain about echos and the basic echo canceller doesn't work...adaptive makes my voice sound statticy.

Had it working pretty well on my old phone, but the echo seems to be a problem with the nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xur17:
I turned the echo canceler off completely, and I haven't had any issues with echo yet. A trick I found was to call 1-909-390-0003, and use it to test if there is any echo on my phone. I think it is a Canadian number, but it is free via Google Voice. It simply echos back everything you say, and gives you a good idea of any echo that might exist for the other caller, and how much latency there is in the call.

It's an easy way to test calls without having to call and bother someone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] redshirt72:
Bought Grooveip as soon as I bought my phone and was hugely disappointed with the sound quality when using the mobile network. Downloaded Talkatone since a couple of people said its codecs were more efficient for use with a 3 or 4g connection and they were absolutely right. No problems using it and I now, with Tmobile, have a pretty much unlimited everything plan for 30 dollars a month, incredible!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Sorry I wrote that wrong, I meant when switching from Data to Wifi. Again this only happens if I'm signed in to Onavo Extend. If I sign out no problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Very cool tip!

Hmm, that is quite odd. I don't have any sort of compatibility issue between Onavo and this Tasker set up. What if you disable the data connectivity check? Disable the profile you've got (tap the green checkmark to the right of the profile's name) and try to create a new profile exactly the same but without the If statement.

Basically,

Context: Wifi Connected *,*,*

Enter Task:

1) Airplane Radios: Bluetooth On, Cell On, NFC Off, Wifi Off

2) Airplane Mode: Set On

Exit Task:

1) Airplane Mode: Set Off

See if that works for you?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] colonelcack:
just tried talktone over 3g, and it seems much better call quality wise. no echo complaints either
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
This the setup I got together last night. Think it works but I honastly never make phone calls so we will see
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Cool beans. Are you triggering it with the same "Wifi Connected" state context, or are you looking for something else? I don't think you need that Stop statement if you're using the "Wifi connected" context, as the Task will cease once that context is no longer satisfied anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
yeah same wifi connection trigger, i added the stop due it was looping the profile, and it ended with stop if wifi=set then a trigger to toggle airplane mode if wifi not set
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] digweed4me:
I like talkatone better than groove IP it has Better and more codec than all other voip app. I couldn't get my T-Mobile prepaid number to forward to my Google voice . The reason is prepaid T-Mobile doesn't do forwarding .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shenns:
does mms work for you guys? i just signed up with the 30 plan but no luck with mms
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I got my brother onto Straight Talk specifically for this reason. Know he won't regularly push over 2GB (casual user on old iPhone 3GS), and he doesn't wanna worry about minutes. Still cut his bill coming from AT&T by ~$60 a month. He's extremely happy with it.

Family plans with 3 or more people are almost always a better deal monthly unless they're all using something like the $30 T-Mobile plan (or maybe $45 ST). Once you get up to 3+ people, simply buying that many unlocked phones at once can be a hassle, or just not financially viable at all.

The thing is, most people are on individual plans or 2 person "family" plans, and are so much better off going with 2 (or just the 1 person) individual plans and getting phones outright. Especially considering that most Prepaid plans have unlimited minutes, and there's no "in network" or "free nights/weekends" to worry about anymore for a couple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgrinst1:
Thanks, you got me looking with that statement... it appears that Sipdroid uses double the bandwidth when this is checked so that dropped packets become, well, almost non-existent.

http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/wiki/NewImprovedAudio
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Just thinking 'out loud' here.. So I have AT&T right now, if I port my att number to google voice (to avoid confusion/notifying everyone while switching to prepaid tmobile) wont that replace my old gvoice number? Or is there a way we can have 2 google voice numbers at the same time?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
If you currently have a GV number and want to port to GV, you pay the fee to port and you have both #'s for 90 days (afaik). After 90 days, your old GV # disappears and your new # you ported in is your sole number. Within that 90 day window, you can pay an additional fee (I think another $20) and keep both numbers in perpetuity.

It's all spelled out if you Google around a bit :p :

http://support.google.com/voice/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1065667
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krazykeyur:
Interesting. Since speex and GSM codecs don't use that much bandwidth, they should use Max 50kbps with all the overhead data. Even EDGE has uploads of more than 100kbps so that so that should be good enough for that option... the only thing to worry about would be that damn ping.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Hm. Good info. Thanks.

So am I crazy if I want to keep both my gvoice number and current att number? But avoid the fee if possible :laugh:. Would it be possible for tmobile to steal my current att number when I activate? I thought I have heard you can move your number like this from carrier to carrier (I havent switched carriers in over 8 years; was with cingular back in the day)- how would that affect the voip setup? Would then I be calling with my gvoice number so people wouldnt recognize it? I suppose thats a big enough concern not to do it..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] c0LdFire:
I'd kill to drop Verizon and do this... if only I could afford a GSM Nexus and my ETF.

Who wants to trade a GSM Nexus for my CDMA one?! :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pdxtechdoctor:
The other sore spot would be youd only have voicemail on the gvoice number since tmobile prepaid doesn't support conditional call forwarding. So if you ported your old number you wouldnt get gvoice mail on that number like I would suspect you currently have it setup..