yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
Lol sorry, bad statement on my part.... I'm already on your odexed rom.

I'm testing to see why it's stalling when I am downloading files, doesn't matter the size or server etc.

On Calks 1.5 i downloaded your rom and many other files without an issue, but only seems to be on this rom am i having this stalling issue and force close media error when trying to cancel download.

I'll attach screen shots. Look at status bar time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I'm still not clear about rom dev area.

Are you talking about modding app, libs, .so files?

That it requires heavy coding experience.

Manipulating jar files?

Same experience is required.

init.d, build.prop is level where some of us are able to do something. Add some speed and/or battery life, try some limited kernel tweaks what's possible without the source.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Let me try to download something.

Edit: Downloading my deodexed rom right now. Let's see what will happen.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
Just like you said. If you fix the speed or battery life configuration on your themed rom, then the users don't have experience to modify those things, they will evaluate your themed tweaked rom based on their experience. So, if you create the separate zip file(s), which can be flashable after flashing your rom, the users will have great opportunities to choose the tweaks based on their preference.

Again, this is my OMHO and this would be the trend soon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Those tweaks, themes and modification is making my rom different from what sfhub, Calkulin, VeNum, Mjjis and others.

We all have our approach, way of thinking, making our research and adding stuff.

What you suggest, if I understand it correctly, will come to one stock rom and flashable zip files from different devs that will convert stock to "our" roms.

Is that what you trying to say?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
You are not getting my point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I'm trying bro.

It's not an argument or disagreement.

I wanna understand what you suggesting.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Yeah Nova Prime surpassed ADW EX for me. I have all of the ones you mentioned. SPB 3D looks great but isn't the most practical. I have been using Nova since beta 1 on my other phone and the last update made it perfect.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Download complete.

Just downloaded my deodexed rom from def-host site.

No problems.

I'm on wifi right now if that matters.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
I'm sure he's saying you can theme it etc all you want but to keep it stock and free of tweaks etc. That way once I download the rom, I can choose what tweaks etc I want to put on there. whether it'd be your tweaks, calks, mijj, venums or any other devs. (devs would need to put it in zip files for flashing of course)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Agree with you on Nova.

About SPB. It looks very nice but it eats a lot of battery.

I was running 1.5.2 version and don't know if they have any updates that are more battery friendly.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
I was on wifi too. Hmmm that's weird. I guess, I'll deal with it for now. Thanks Agat!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
That's was my read too.

But there is, or might be slight problem with that.

Some tweaks require certain kernels to be flashed with to get support.

So I would have to include the kernel with it.

Then if I silence camera I'm modding some ogg files or deleting them.

And list goes on.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
May be bad flash?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
You got it! +1
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
I agree, it'd be pretty hard. I am on no ones side here but I was trying to explain it better.

Kobridge may have a way of doing it if devs did decide to do it this way, who knows.

Always room for improvement! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I do get your point. But when I make a rom I do run it for day or two to fine tune it, to make sure all parts are working fine together, scripts are not in conflict with each other etc.

If there will be few files with tweaks we might start seeing problems.

And on other hand.

We always have stock rooted roms posted.

Sfhub, Calkulin or me posting them.

Any user can have a stock experience and then try what we did to enhanced the rom.

There you have a comparecing of stock and tweaked roms.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Agat was doing that before but he was basically supporting 4 ROMs each leak I believe. There were themed stock odex and deodex then his tweaked versions if I remember right but that is hard to keep up especially with all of the leaks we have been getting

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I guess for FE10 I can try to put together a zip with my tweaks only.

Kind of like theme/tweak flashable zip file for testing purposes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
You right there but I think we talking general approach here.

Sooner or later we will have an OTA and then we will have time to work everything out.

There are pros and cons to everything.

But I think it's worth to try.

I'll make a small zip with tweaks and theme for FE10 when it's out.

Let's see how it will come out and if users will like that approach better.

At least they will have a smaller file to download.:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
Again, it was MHO. I'm not able to say how to do that. But I think it's an idea to think about. Thanks for your responses!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I am curious what all you have in that 7tweaks. I haven't had time to dig in to it lately. Can you break down the others beside what you mentioned in the OP? Does it underclock the phone, etc?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I did carry it from rom to rom so long that I have to go back myself and see what's there.:D

But you're right. If anyone is using my rom they should know what's in it.

(Was too lazy to type all up, but don't tell anyone).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Well in a way that's like the secret sauce in each ROM because you have to have a bit of understanding to dig in and see what's going on. I copied over the scripts from Rujelus's ROM and I swear it speeds up Nova when scrolling and maybe lockscreen and keyboard are a bit more responsive. This was the first set I tried on stock FE07

Edit.. saving yours and kobridge's for last

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
JC, one possible tweak on 7tweaks which could affect the battery life is the

up_threshold value. This value is measured in percentage 1-100, when CPU load reaches this point, governor will scale CPU up. Higher value means less responsiveness and lower values corresponds to more responsiveness at the cost of battery.

It's set to 70.

I think it's kind of PM topic.

Edit: thanks JC for jumping in.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Well.

Pretty much there is not too much I can tell about those tweaks without going deep into technical lingo.

Like when I say there is a tweak for battery life it might look like this:

wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=15 stock

wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180 tweaked.

That means when your wifi is on on stock build.prop it will scan for wifi every 15 sec on tweaked build.prop every 180 sec.

But if I would try to describe every line of tweak you can imagine what the OP will look like.:D

Edit: exactly as stated above by kobridge. It will take too much time to type up all the tweaks. And you always look for a compromise between speed and responsiveness and battery life.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
All the tweaks you do is exactly why I use your ROM. If people don't like it they can use another one. Make it how you want, it's your baby!

Ain't nothing wrong with this roms battery life...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Oh I agree that it would take forever to list but that's a perfect example. I didn't know you had the wifi scan interval change in there. I usually set the same in ROM Toolbox but it was already there. I thought Sammy made that change.. lol

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Each line in build.prop and 7tweak came after a research, reading in different threads and forums. Not always understand exactly what it does since I'm not an IT guy or a programmer so sometimes I'm taking the OP's word for it.

But I have little advantage here.

I read English, German and Russian forums and do my research all over the web. So sometimes I find stuff that's not available in English.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
So if I push your script, am I missing a bunch of build.prop changes or just a few that I could track down? I plan on spending all day Saturday fine tuning. Could I just copy build.prop?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Some tweaks are in build.prop and what ever is not doable in build.prop is in 7tweak. These 2 files are taking care of different aspects and in a different way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 5FOOTER:
I'm on RubiX 1.0.2 right now can I mobile odin to cwm-el26 and flash your rom? If so do I caulk wipe all or wipe all 3 user data, cashed, and Dalvik cashe?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Not sure.

Is RubiX ICS, AOSP, AOKP, GB?

Let me check it out first.

Edit: It's based on FD26 so if you don't run kernel that allows you to flash unsinged zip files just mobil odin repacked FD26 kernel with CWM recover. Apply Calkulins modified format all to preserve data and flash this rom. It should work just fine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigJPNut:
I dont think the up threshold tweak works anyway I dont think? When I check Rom Toolbox it alwats says 85, whether its 7tweaks or the modified Calkulin script you use in your better battery thread. Or maybe Rom Toolbox just isnt accurate?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Both versions are valid.

There are not too many dual core phones out there and not all performance apps reading dual core values correctly.

I'm not saying that toolbox doesn't but it's a possibility.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
The last 2 or 3 pages went over my head like a 98 mile per hour wild pitch. Not a problem though. I just flash the sumbitch and it works teriffic
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
I pm'd you JC.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 5FOOTER:
Ok I'll give it a shot I'm on his fe07 kernel and his rom updates we used the cwm-el26 method I don't mind wiping data or using caulk wipe all. If you think it will be a safer install also about phone says IMM76K if that makes a difference.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I just started poking around inside scripts myself. I used to leave things as close to stock as possible on that end but the right adjustments can make some nice improvements to several areas. I just read Agat's build.prop and I had to copy that right over the stock one. I have a feeling that as soon as I have the time to look in to 7tweak I will be back on Agat's ROM right after..lol. I know the build.prop changes he made were the exact ones that caught my eye when I was doing some reading on the subject

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
If you don't mind going thru EL26 it's still a safest known method. Go for it.

But since it's ICS rom you don't need to wipe data. You can save yourself time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
Actually there're multiple facts on it. Simply just be sure that bigger value means less battery & less responsiveness and smaller value means more battery & fast responsiveness.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Odd..still doesn't show in inbox

Edit...still nothing kobridge

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 5FOOTER:
Thanks going for now..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Couldn't one just simply download the stock ROM, copy the build prop and init.d files and replace them on every ROM they decide to flash for their own comparison purposes instead of Agat changing his methods?

I have experimented with removing and replacing files in the init.d folder from one ROM that performed well to another ROM to bring it up to what I like to see. It really isn't a difficult thing to do. I'm sure some tweaks from one script were already doing what part of the new script.I introduced myself was doing. But I have been pleasantly supposed with some changes I was able to do myself. (for instance exactly what JohnCorleone's earlier example was).

EDIT: on another note, part of the "tweaking" that each developer does is removing bloat from the stock ROM. Not every developer removes the same apks either. I personally wouldn't want to flash a stock ROM from a custom developer with stock build prop, init.d files, and especially bloat. Another part being the theme. Some themes trend to be a little easier on the battery than others.. And I definitely don't like the stock theme at all. It isn't easy on the eyes at all!

I could be way out in left field with this whole post, but went there anyway.. Lol. I'm assuming that what is being suggested would also push each developer to remove the same bloat, use the same theme and add no new sweet apks we have been seeing. This is all just my own option from where I see it from (in left field.. Lol)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Nevell:
This FE10 modem is super super fast. These are the fastest speeds I've have ever seen on 3G here are the 3 speed test I just took a few min ago. Couldn't believe the first one so I ran 2 more. Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
There are so many variables when modem testing. Network traffic plays a huge role in speed tests. Here's my FE07 test from yesterday. Notice the time and how high the DL is for 3g

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Nevell:
I live in a predominately Verizon area maybe a few hundred people in my town with sprint. Speeds are never that good no matter what time i check it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ejbmvp:
i just experienced some wierd battery life. i went to bed with 47%, woke up 6.5hrs later and only had 11%. by time i got to the office i had 10%. 3hrs later, i just got out of a meeting so no phone use, its back up to 25%. so currently i am at 24% with 20hr 43mins. this is the first battery cycle
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] moises1204:
where did you get the fe10 modem?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Sfhub has an Odin and flashable FE10 modem in his FE10 thread in the second post.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigJPNut:
Ok...I guess Rom Toolbox Pro is unreliable....thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] moises1204:
THANKS.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Not a problem. Glad I could help.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
Getting a battery sucking wake lock. Any ideas how to help fix this?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
Kill foursquare from memory after using it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Do you have notifications enabled on tapatalk? On other apps I've had this happen when I enabled notifications and slept though them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
Don't have foursquare :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
Yes notifications on should I kill them?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
About to flash sfhubs FE10 plus kernel on this, anyone else try it?

Edit: FE10 plus kernel works well. Super smooth!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
How's your deep sleep?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Only if you feel that may be the case of this wakelock. My experience has been with notifications enabled, they can be responsible for wakelocks if they are left unattended for a period of time unplugged from the charger.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
Good to know will try soon :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
how do I get that to show?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
LOL, it's not showing cause you're not going into deep sleep ever, check your processes, to see what's keeping it awake...

Sorry, not laughing at your misfortune, just never seen that before. ;)

Edit: see my awake and screen on? It should be relatively close like that. The time difference most likely is from my weather/apps etc being refreshed when my screen is off.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
Anyone having dpi issues with market give this a try

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1562971
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
No need for being sorry I'm not a pucker butt I would lol too.

So it's safe to deduct that my battery is getting raped by Tapatalk related wake lock?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
You are correct. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ejbmvp:
nice to know. what method did you use to update?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jklong03:
+ 1. I have flashed FE10 modem and FE10 kernel (unlocked ver) over the top of this rom and all is well!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
Just used stock fe07 kernel that agat had with ROM. Works perfect. Just flash it, sfhub makes script wipe cache etc already.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BIGCOIN:
Anyone having problems with bluetooth? My motorola h790 pairs but doesnt work with calls or audio.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Figured if share this before the battery dies. This is the first battery cycle on this ROM, and I know the next will be better. Great job Agat!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdss:
Yeah, where is he , lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Bigpeng: can you move apps to sd with FE10 kernel plus? I can't move them with FE07 kernel plus or the unlocked stock recovery kernel on this Rom. Not working for some on sfhub's thread either. Anyone know if it has anything to do with me restoring user apps from Rom toolbox app manager? Thinking about flashing the FE10 tar, install apps fresh from the market, and updating from there when Agat releases his.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
I always could with FE07 and just did it for you on FE10. I restored all my apps with data using TB so restoring apps shouldn't be an issue. Hope you figure it out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Thanks bro. Not a big issue for me since I only have about 50 apps or so and plenty of free space, but I like to get it working the way it's suppose to.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ReubenRene:
Is there any way to be able to just get the tweaked kernel from this ROM?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
Yea just take it out of the zip
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
It's the zimage Rueben. Double click on the Rom file and you'll see it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
Or else it's probably same as sfhubs on his FE07 thread. Also ReActiveDisorder has them in his posts for kernels, all of them probably pretty damn close if not the same.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigpeng:
I hear ya, DH. Weird why it works for some and not others? :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
Interesting finding today...

I swapped out the stock kernel for the fe10 plus kernel from sfhub's thread and started losing battery pretty fast. went from 99 to 87 in about an hour. I swapped the stock kernel back in and have only lost another 5% in the last 2 hours. I did not wipe any caches on either flash session. I am not making any assumptions, but instead looking forward to doing this test again to see if I can duplicate it. Just thought I would pass this along for thought.

---------- Post added at 09:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 PM ----------

Thanks for the further explanation of my post... I need to start thinking in more complete instructions. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Same thing happened to me when I flashed FD26 kernel plus on Agat's FD26 Rom. My battery life went downhill. I test at night with phone idling, WiFi on, syncing only Gmail and I was losing close to 30% in 8 hours with kernel plus. Switched to Calkulin's FD26 kernel and it was much better.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jklong03:
Guess I am going to be watching anxiously this weekend for the lightly themed FE10 version from agat, now I am on his FE07 release with the FE10 modem and kernel installed over the top.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
If you are running something different than sfhub's plus version, would you mind linking to the FE10 kernel you are running? I am assuming you did not see the battery difference like I did.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Hi there!

I didn't forget about you guys.

Had a vendor in town had to go out with.

Just got home. FE10 will follow shortly.

Stay tuned.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
Oh yea...you da man!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Always lurking Agat... been watching for it

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Just got home.

But I promise that tFE10 will be uploaded before I hit the sack.

Flashing sfhub's no datat OC to pull the system and start modding it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
F it. I am off today. I am going to flash the new Euroskank CM9 on my NS4G while you are working on that..lol

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
Does anyone have a battery mod zip file for ics they can share. I would love to add the Hoolm mod to this ROM plus I wanna try making my own images and flash it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Got /system/ pulled.

Themeing right now.

init.d and build.prop are done.

Next gotta remove apps and zip it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Hoolm mod?

What's that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1434061

It's a few down the list Holmes

there is one for Phantomhackers blazer too.

http://phantomroms.com/mods.html
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I think all it does it replacing battery png images in SystemUI.apk

Is that right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
Yep, exactly

I just added another link to the first post
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
That shouldn't be a problem.

You can do it using 7z if you want.

Download the battery pack of your choice.

You should have 100 icons for battery and few for charge.

Grab the SystemUI.apk you like (all other icons and colors)

Open app with 7z for view and drag /res/drawable-hdpi folder out of it.

Open folder and you will see all battery icons.

Replace them with icons of your choice and than drag and drop drawable-hdpi folder back into SystemUI.apk /res/ folder.

Push app to /system/app folder and reboot phone.

You would have your battery icons.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
Awesome, thanks! Between you working on the new rom and this now I'll never go to bed when I get off work. LOL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
Guess who broke their data cord? This guy!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k2thejx5:
You could always use wifi file explorer to put stuff on the phone!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Nevell:
Damn a few pages late. But I'm here and its flash time. Downloading now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kchitown1977:
does this include cwm

rogue recovery like last rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
I don't think it's safe using rogue to install ICS ROMs. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kchitown1977:
after flash rom ok to flash update-modem-FE07-FULL-CWM zip or should i use different late verion modem?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
I would keep the modem/kernel/ROM version the same because sometimes they work together.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Nevell:
Wow um.... stock recovery?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
I want to clean Odin wipe to new version
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] OldManJax:
I have been using nothing but rogue to flash my ICS ROMS and have had no issues.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kchitown1977:
That's what I do after I flashed stock sfhub's FE07 full data. I used e4gauto method to add rogue CWM fd02 to flash this ROM no issue