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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
Like I've mentioned, you shouldn't be surprised. Their "reviews" are all trash. They basically point out where all the buttons are, say "Sense 4 is nice and light," comment on the great screen and waste a couple paragraphs comparing to PenTile, and call it a day. Such is the state of most internet journalism.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamerunka:
guys, have you noticed that stock browser page reloading has nothing to do with multitasking?

it reloads the page even if you don't switch out from it. it reloads them each time you switch tabs, even if they were loaded recently
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
The Verge missing it kind of surprised me actually. I thought they were more thorough than the other sites.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
No, the bug where the gnex was actually dropping signal...not just a weak signal. Not going to waste my time posting links...but there are a ton out there. Looks like Sprint customers are having the same issue, so clearly it's a phone issue and not a carrier issue. Sometimes research before speaking can be your friend.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tylerdurdin:
It seems they were still trying to fix something that was never broken here.... http://androidcommunity.com/signal-...-ice-cream-sandwich-update-20120405/......and how bout that "ghost volume" that plagued people....and not to mention the Gnex has had actual data and signal issues....my brother in law can't make a call in his living room standing next to his wife who can on her Droid incredible although that might not be a bug and is really more like crap hardware. Also I can post you about a thousand links right from the Gnex forum that start right around page 250 of countless Gnex guys talking about a plethora of bugs and crap they felt was terrible. Just went for a stroll through there myself....I forgot how hilarious that forum was when the Gnex first came out.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kravguy:
As I posted earlier, mine does not exhibit this behavior. Has anyone else who's rooted uninstalled the sense launcher and tried a different launcher to see if that is the culprit? Lol, funny that my alarm just went off writing this and I switched to that app, closed the alarm, exited, went to the home screen, hit multi task button, selected xda, and continued writing this.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
This is not the Nexus forum. I dont care what the past issues with the Nexus was/is. Now lets get back on topic about the HOX please. Thanks.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
Some people have mentioned that HTC has responded with "this is the way it's intended to run."

However, we've seen video (go back a few pages if you haven't yet,) and you'll find an International HOX owner who posted about his multitasking. It works beautifully on the International one. So, are we to accept that the at S4 chip just can't handle it without killing the battery? Well I won't take that.

Also, of course HTC's CSR's are going to act like there's no problem. Otherwise they'd be admitting that HTC f***ed up. Now HTC's able to release an update that fixes this, but rather than calling it a bug fix, they can call it a "new feature" or "performance enhancement."

I'm sure we'll see a fix to this, either from HTC, or via the awesome XDA devs pulling stuff from the International ROMs.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tylerdurdin:
sorry Red...got caught up comparing apples to apples....I will maintain.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
I'm going to ask again. Has anyone confirmed our US HOXs actually have 1GB RAM? I'm getting a suspicion ATT slashed it along with the storage. How can we confirm??
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
From: "AT&T Email Business Customer Care for Wireless" <icare301@amcustomercare.att-mail.com>

Date: May 15, 2012 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: Wireless from AT&T Customer Email - Southeast - [TECH] (KMM43089317V95856L0KM)

I agree some of the issues are because of third party software, but the aggressive memory management is HTC android implementation for multitask.

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-x-issue-breaks-android-multi-tasking-85598/

It is a shame the phone was not properly tested by you (ATT) before being released and because of the lack of a work around solution (ATT requested HTC to lock the bootloader) it is limited my resources to ask for help.

I have concluded that I will have to return this unit. I am unhappy paying for unit that can perform the same tasks than my old captivate.

Thanks for your help.

From: Gustavo Gomez [mailto:mgfjd12@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:05 PM

To: Gomez, Gustavo

Subject: Fwd: Re: Wireless from AT&T Customer Email - Southeast - [TECH] (KMM43089317V95856L0KM)

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: "AT&T Email Business Customer Care for Wireless" <icare301@amcustomercare.att-mail.com>

Date: May 15, 2012 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: Wireless from AT&T Customer Email - Southeast - [TECH] (KMM43089317V95856L0KM)

To: "Gustavo Gomez" <mgfjd12@gmail.com>

Dear Gustavo,

Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is

Samie and I appreciate the opportunity to address your inquiry today.

I completely understand your concern in regards to the HTC device.

We do appreciate and understand your concerns with the device; however

most of the issues you've described have to do with the interoperational

technical capabilities of the device or compatibility of the device

operating system with third party software. While we don't have an

estimated timeframe when a software update will be available for the

unit, given the nature of your concerns, it may be prudent to confer

with HTC (as the device manufacturer) to determine if any alternative

solutions exist in the interlude.

I do apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused you.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] supercluver:
What if I use titanium backup to freeze the sense launcher and use Nova instead? Also, what do I freeze to "disable" the sense launcher? Is it just HTC Sense or what?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
Freeze "Rosie" in the system/app folder
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kravguy:
com.htc.launcher I believe. Install nova first and make it a system app. I use no bloat from the play store for freezing,uninstalling cause it auto backs up. I'm assuming freezing will accomplish the same thing as uninstalling.

For the record, I also uninstalled all the weather stuff, all the att crap, all the sense widgets, all the stock stuff (that's stock as in wall street), Flickr, google plus, city, car mode stuff, and the other third party stuff other than facebook.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kravguy:
Yeah, that's it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kravguy:
Oh, and talk, talkback, all preinstalled live wallpapers, soundhound, and all non English HTC input stuff (there's like 20 of them). A few other things but that's the main things. Only thing I really am using that's stock is messaging, email, contacts and dialer. Only thing I'll miss when I get a aokp rom on here is the contacts app. Nothing comes close to HTC's.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
No, I don't believe they will fix it because I believe it's the way they intended it to work. Even if they do intend to fix it, the fix will be months out.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shinji21:
But then how come the international one x does not have this behavior? I mean if this is how they intend it to work, shouldn't it be the same for both versions? Unless it involves hardware issue like CPU stuff that I do not understand, I don't see why they wouldn't fix it in the coming updates.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Nuking everything on this phone that makes it an HTC phone kind of defeats the purpose. You might as well be using a Galaxy Nexus.

Even if you bought it for the hardware, removing all elements that make the phone what it is seems like a poor solution to keeping the device. I like HTC's contact integration as well. I also like their Friendstream widget, though there's an equivalent on the market, smartdialer, messaging and e-mail enhancements.

The camera is good, but not the best. The camera app is the best. The screen is badass. But dropping $600 on a phone that you have to completely mod to make it run correctly just for a camera and screen is insane.

Let's compare it to the Gnex with the software stripped out and see what we're really getting:

1) S4 Processor

2) SLCD 2 Screen

3) Better Camera

4) LTE

For me, the GSM Nexus gets slightly better battery life, so that benefit of the S4 is a wash. It might perform better, but I'm not sure there are apps/games intense enough to really make it matter. The screen is amazing and at least half the reason I bought the phone, but it's still just an upgrade from the Nexus screen, which isn't bad at all. The camera is debatable. I think the Nexus gets more detail or the One X uses more harsh compression. I really don't find them to be that much different in that department. LTE is nice, but I can live without it.

So, $400 unlocked vs $600 locked to AT&T for slightly better hardware (taking software out of the equation). I guess my question to most of you would be: Is the hardware upgrade really worth an extra $200?

I'm not advocating the purchase of a Nexus. I already had one. Comparing the two, I see no reason to be $600 poorer for a phone that doesn't run correctly whether I can hack it to work or not.

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I have seen no confirmation that the International version doesn't have this issue. The one guy with one who posted here had a custom ROM. We already know the One S has this issue and I strongly suspect that the International One X does as well.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
Exactly.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bigjim1488:
I'm pretty sure if we switched to the gnex we would be totally moding it anyone so what's the difference? The camera is definately worse, the processor is worse and frankly this screen poops on the gnex screen. Just saying
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kravguy:
To each his own. Owned an inspire before this and a pure before that. Love htc. Don't love sense. Do I buy an HTC for sense, no. Wish HTC would focus less on sense and more on the hardware. Sorry but sense launcher lacks so much that third party launchers provide that it just isn't even funny. Love their widgets and wish they'd make them cross launcher compatible but the nice thing is I have the option to use something else.

Bottom line, I was more interested in seeing if sense was causing the multitask issue. Not whether sense is better than x.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I suppose it's a matter of perception, but I'm holding both phones in my hands right now and the One X's screen most definitely doesn't "poop" on the Nexus' screen. It's better, but not by that much.

And the processor is great, but the Nexus is just as smooth, so I'm not sure that really matters as much as you think. I haven't modded my Nexus at all and I'm happy with it. At least the multitasking works correctly.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
My question would be...is it worth keeping the Nexus to have multitasking, when every other part of the phone gets its butt handed to it by the One X? My answer would be not a chance (and yes, I had the gn for quite some time as a comparison).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Add the locked bootloader into the mix and the gnex vs HOX question is harder to answer.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kravguy:
That I agree with. I just have faith in the incredible devs here. If it doesn't get unlocked, then the phone goes to my daughter and I look for something else.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Actually, yes. I'd take a car that runs correctly over one that has to sit in my driveway, regardless of how good the one in my driveway looks. What good is a phone that doesn't work correctly?

The hardware might be better, but it's not so ground-shattering that it doesn't need to have decent software to support it.

Edit: Opened my banking app, logged in, switched to calculator and typed in some numbers, opened the web browser, multitasked back to banking app and it reloaded and logged me out. You seriously want to live with this kind of performance? Really? That's okay with you? Because I'm trying to find a reason to keep this phone and that just kills it for me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pdubcramp:
:mad: Yeah, there's no explanation for that.

I have my fingers crossed that the bootloader gets unlocked or the SGS III comes out before June 23rd (my return date). However, at the moment I prefer this phone to my SGS II - mainly because of the screen.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
That's a good analogy. Unfortunately you made me appreciate this phone a little less. :(

However, being a flagship device, I'm sure HTC are going to give this the attention it deserves, especially with people returning the device.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CryptArc:
I find it strange that I haven't read a single review for this phone mentioning this.

I apologize if this was already discussed in the thread previously, but has HTC even acknowledged this as an issue?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Someone up thread quoted htc saying working as intended.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
HTC acknowledged it and their position (so far) is that it's working as intended.

And yes it was discussed. The reviewers dropped the ball. In their haste to get a review out before the device's release, they didn't actually use the device. It took me a few days to discover it, as well.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quietglow:
Funny to see this thread, as I just noticed this issue yesterday (I've had it since Sunday). To see how annoying this is, try this:

Play some music via something other than Music (I use gmusic). Open maps and get directions to someplace. Follow directions to place, but along the way, switch to your music player. Switch back to maps and find your directions are gone and your location is now marked general. Curse.

This is super annoying. My N1 (two phones back) handled multitasking better than this.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BBock9:
Just came across this in another thread (no credit to me). Developer options >>check don't keep activities>>reboot >> developer options >> uncheck don't keep activities >> reboot. I've only been testing for about 5 min but it seems to have resolved my issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phishie:
Maybe I'm not as aggressive with my multitasking but this isn't a huge issue to me - a minor annoyance for sure.

I've only had my phone since the beginning of the week so I'm still just very impressed with how well the phone runs and the awesome battery life.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
Just did all you said and everything was fine, then slackers radio had to reload so I tried g music and back to nav with no issues. Then I opened up xda again and did not have to reload. Are you guys running the at&t version?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
I have done this twice. Didn't work for me.

Edit: We are all running the AT&T version I believe.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BBock9:
Have you tried with fastboot off. As I understand it, leaving fast boot on does not fully reboot the phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
I'll definitely have to try this out.

However, I've got an update on my AutoKiller experience.

Traditionally (at least on older phones like the HTC Hero,) we'd use AutoKiller to allow *more* free RAM, and thus keep apps running nice and quick and snappy. With the DHD I never felt the need to use AutoKiller, as it already seemed to have enough RAM and processing power, at least for my needs, to keep things running well. Well, the One X is obviously much more capable than the DHD, and it seems like it's beneficial to *lower* the amount of free RAM.

When I loaded up AutoKiller, the minimums were set to like, 54, 62 and 72 or something along those lines. I dropped it down to the "System Default" setting of 20, 22, 24. It made a *HUGE* difference in multitasking. Granted, I didn't load every single app on my phone, but I multitasked back and forth between 5 apps and they all seemed to freeze properly. So give that a shot.

Also give Bbock9's method a try. I'm going to revert my AutoKiller settings and try it out right now.

EDIT: While I had my phone shut off in my pocket and was typing this post, my multitasking took a dive and had to reload all the recent apps when I went into it. Since Android was allowing for far more RAM usage, it seems more like there's a "time-out" implemented somewhere.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
Yes fastboot is off.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quietglow:
Just tested those steps and maps still loses both lock and directions (i.e. so it basically restarts) if I switch to google music and back. The first time it didn't, but I did it again and switched albums. That caused the maps reset.

To be clear: you ought to be able to browse your music settings while maps does its navigating thing. If you can't, the phone isn't really multi-tasking.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
WOW... you're definitely on to something with this... i wouldn't say it's perfect yet, but I have Temple Run, Solitare MegaPack, Twitter and Chrome all running... it still needs to refresh chrome when i try to switch back to that, but I've heard that that could be a Chrome thing, but Twitter and Solitare both jump right back to where I was now, and Temple Run has to show the company logo but then it goes right to where I was paused at (and I have to hit Resume to continue). This definitely seems to be helping. I'll be playing with it a lot more today, testing different situations, but turning the "Don't Keep Activities" on, rebooting, turn it back on, reboot again, seems to help for sure...

Edit: Wait no, Twitter doesn't work... That still refreshes as if I just totally launched the app from scratch. Those two games are working now though, so I still say it's definitely somewhat helping...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jason.hamilton:
Here was my testing:

Open angry birds, go to the game menu where you hit play. Hit home. open chrome, messaging, gmail. Went back to angry birds and it showed the rovio loading screen. No good.

Went to developer settings, changed the limit to 4 and it auto decided to enable the close everything once i leave it. Went back to developer settings, unchecked that box.

Now it multi tasks up to 4 apps. Seems to have worked. Angry bird stays up. I wonder if it is more of a battery killer though since it wont kill 4 processes.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
My phone would not lock indoors until I restored the phone the factory settings and set everything back up. Maybe that's why I'm not having this problem like you guys are. I have not had to reload my xda since I got on here and I keep switching between slacker, pandora, gmusic.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
So you haven't been using the web-browser?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
Web browser always have to refresh which is the same as my iPhone did so I didn't think that was a issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Tinyboss:
I wonder if just rebooting has some temporary beneficial effect. Then any recipe that included a reboot would seem to help, at least at first, long enough to get people to post "it worked!" (Thanks, by the way, for coming back to edit your post and let us know it didn't stay fixed.)

I saw plenty of that when my Captivate was new and we had our GPS troubles!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
The iPhone does do this but it does it much less often, especially the iphones with more ram, the new iPad with 1GB of ram rarely does it. Windows Phone NEVER does it, even if the tab has been open for a week.

But Android (the multitasking king) should be doing it far less often than an iPhone and be closer to the point of never reloading your browser.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
well to be fair my paused temple run and solitare megapack are STILL properly frozen even now (whats it been almost 10 minutes now)... but again, it's not exactly FIXED yet. even something as simple as NewsRob (my RSS reader) starts back at the main feeds section instead of the feed/article I was last in... that shouldn't be that hard to resume I'd imagine...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
My angry birds space died after trying that but defiantly wouldnt recommend leaving 4 apps running since your always going to have 4 apps running. It seem only certain app do this and need to be updated for ics.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] co.ag.2005:
man, my xda premium app always reloads if I'm away from it for 30+ seconds or so. I've try all the developer options settings to no avail. so your saying your factory reset likely is helping you in this arena?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
That's all I did special, so it should work for everyone. I've opened even angry birds and xda was still sitting there waiting for me and has a button to push to refresh to see if there's new post in the tread I was looking at.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Most of the major review sites are iphone biased and probably didn't test multi tasking

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I think htc has tried to put lipstick on a pig. :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] joelszs:
I dropped a "tip" to BGR and Phandroid. Any publicity for this is probably good publicity. For the record though, I'm a pretty casual user and fell asleep for 2 hours with Pandora running without a hitch...I know some people have complained that it shuts off after a few songs.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I tipped the Verge and engadget I bet nothing comes of it because their reviewers screwed the pooch
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] joelszs:
I just tried to upload photos to my newly acquired 25 gig DropBox account in the background, epic fail...lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
set it to upload automatically via wifi. I haven't had any problems doing it that way.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
In my experience, Slacker does it. I'd blame the app, but my Gnex will run it indefinitely. So, while Slacker could be updated to work on the One X, I tend to blame the X, given its overly aggressive attitude toward background apps.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
has anyone tried a task killer and set it on the least aggressive settings?

I just did

meh
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
Actually a pretty horrible analogy depending on how important multitasking is to you. I would take the better looking car, the better riding car, the better handling car, the car with the bigger engine and more horsepower and the one with the nicer interior...even if it didn't have a back windshield wiper like my other sled in the driveway. Yea, that windshield wiper is nice when it's raining, but I live in Arizona so I really don't need it that often and can get by without it in order to have everything else I listed. All a matter of perspective my friend.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
yea well what if the stereo shut off after a couple songs and wouldn't start again until you shut off the air conditioning and the engine?