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[Galaxy S III General] camspy:
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http://techlogg.com/2010/12/ips-vs-amoled-vs-slcd-smartphone-displays-explained/1877

http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology...super-amoled-mobile-phone-displays-explained/
[Galaxy S III General] Daemos:
Just read issues with the Gnex...man...it's got worse issues than the SGSII way more apparent, and also way more random, ugh...

I guess I'll have to wait and see for some user reviews about the screen.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
The GN, Xperia S, and the One X are all having screen issues to some degree. You can't build small high density displays in the millions without some deviation between them. While there are horror stories in each phones forum you have to take in to account what percentage are really affected. In the case of the SGS2, based on the huge number sold, the high number of complaints doesn't seem that disproportionate. For the GN, for whatever reason, Samsung used an extremely dim display. We know from testing that's not the case with the SGS3. For people buying locally exchanging is annoying but not a big deal. For people importing a phone it's like the lottery (I’ve “won” three times). The SGS3 will no doubt follow the SGS2 and GN but there's no reason to think it'll be worse. To think it will be miraculously unaffected is a bit naive.
[Galaxy S III General] XDA mark:
You know, when I read these comments.. I don't understand some people.

I think back about my HTC Desire, which I still used about 14 months ago. It had a simple AMOLED (no super, plus, hd, anything) screen. And in that period I still saw HTC's with ugly LCD screens....

Now, the Galaxy Nexus's screen looks amazing. And it's been just a year and a half since we had crappy screens. And the S3 will be even better according to GSMArena...

There may be a difference with the OneX screen, but it will be a small difference, maybe the One X is slightly better, maybe not... but what does it matter, both screens look absolutly amazing, and people should stop and realise what they are making a fuss about! I used to do it myself until I realised it makes no sense to make a problem out of these tiny things. The best way is to go to an avarage "normal" person and tell this story about the screens of the S3 and the One X. Then show the screens. They will look at you and say "umad bro?" They both look amazing.
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
I just had a look at the Galaxy Nexus. Boy do I hope this one is better. What is the point of having an HD screen where every pixel is that visible...
[Galaxy S III General] XDA mark:
Boy you mad? You use a telescope the entire day to look at your screen? I have seen the GN's screen and it looks awesome. Maybe it's time you use an iPhone 3G for a week and get used to a 3.5inch HVGA screen again.
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
Looked at it for 10 seconds and it already started bothering me. The pixels pop out more than on my Sgs2 at normal reading distance. If you can't see them, you should have your eyes checked, because mine aren't that great.

And btw why not compare it to a 1 year old iPhone instead while you are at it...
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
This is from Engadget's review of the Sprint version that was posted today. It pretty much reflects how people I know that own the phone feel. The display on the GN wasn't Samsung's best work. Regardless, the better brightness levels on the SGS3 mean that its display won't be the same anyway so there's no point in comparing them.

"Of course, no review of the Galaxy Nexus would be complete without mention of the amazing screen. After setting eyes on the HTC One X, the Super AMOLED panel on the GNex draws slightly less awe, but it's still an impressive display. We do find the auto brightness to be a tad aggressive and, if you're looking for it, you can notice the graininess that detractors claim makes the PenTile subpixel layout the worst thing since Pol Pot. Honestly, most of us Engadget editors aren't too bothered by the noise, but once you do notice it, the smear of pixels becomes almost impossible to ignore. There is some mild, though noticeable variation in the color temperature between the various versions of the phone, with dark grays taking on a purple hue on the Sprint edition, particularly with the brightness turned down."

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/10/sprint-galaxy-nexus-review/
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
I am hoping it will be better, but on close up shots they do look very much alike.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
So that's it? You gave the screen 10 seconds and then judged it completely unworthy?
[Galaxy S III General] Mafiatounes:
Looks like Samsung uses pentile because of durability

http://www.mobileburn.com/19548/new...ed-displays-last-longer-thats-why-we-use-them
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
I don't think so. SGS3 is brighter and uses a better glass. Even more advance than Gorilla Glass, Gorilla Glass 2. The thinner the glass the better the visibility.
[Galaxy S III General] :
+1

Interesting article.
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
I was talking about the display. The sub pixels look similar.
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
Yeah. If it bothered me after 10 seconds, why would I want to spend more time getting annoyed? Same story with my old sgs1 and I never got used to it.
[Galaxy S III General] eksasol:
I don't see why that's bad news. I had the Note and now a Nexus. I never use the Note at full brightness because it burns my cornea and the Nexus brightness is just fine. I don't even use 50% on either, which should be sufficient for outdoor, for indoor I mostly use 0% which is still perfectly comfortable for the eyes. Bottom line is its AMOLED and it can deal with direct sunlight.

With that said, the pentile screen of the Note and Nexus both has a grainy characteristic to them. The Nexus white color under half brightness become very grainy (you will only know what I mean if you have the Nexus). I expect about the same grainy characteristic with the SIII, but maybe they will improve quality control and there are less 'dark spots' issues, which plague a lot of the screens. Then there is the grey banding. I have a positive feeling about this one though.
[Galaxy S III General] harise100:
Here we go again... People who haven't seen the screen in real life, know better than the ones who did. :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
Sub pixel comparison of the Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S III:

http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/58763-image/galaxy-s-iii-microscope-nexus.jpg

Now even though they look similar, the results may be different, when you look at them in real life, so I am still optimistic.
[Galaxy S III General] Daemos:
I've owned 3 SGS2s, all with the same screen problem, I've also flashed at least 100 phones and showed people how to install new roms and stuff...all with the same problem.

The thing is, I didn't notice it so it never bothered me, then I saw the thread on XDA about screen problems then I noticed it :(
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Thank God no one pays you to review anything. I'd understand if you didn't like the display and it annoyed you after a few minutes of use. But 10 seconds has no credibility.
[Galaxy S III General] Yoma666:
I'm still on a galaxy S 1 and I love the pentile screen on that one. :-) I guess I'll like the new one even better... Getting a bit older and less eyesight does have its benefits after all!
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
That thread on the SGS2 forum was one of the worst on XDA. :rolleyes: The circular arguments between the anal retentive and the realists never ended. It started last year the week the phone came out and is still going today. It's at 244 pages which may be a record for a general section. Certainly didn’t seem to hurt sales any and I see some of the people who posted on it "Samsung, never again" lining up for a SGS3. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] SiNJiN76:
Bwahahahaha! I hear ya!
[Galaxy S III General] g4rvd4:
Have you guys seen this side by side comparison of s2 vs s3 screen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MIjogtx_MU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy S III General] Kailkti:
Personally I think they only said that to promote the device. It's just cliché of them to praise any hyped device?
[Galaxy S III General] furt890:
I don't think it's worth losing credibility over a single device.
[Galaxy S III General] Kailkti:
There is no credibility lost. It is a great screen, better than most. Frankly, no one owning the device will say the screen is sub par.

However all I'm saying is for every hyped device, they always praise some aspect of it as the best.

$1 gets you a reply
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
The funny thing is that this debate's raging and production versions of the phone haven't even been released yet. Once they're in people's hands the debate will continue to rage. The real comparison, at least for me, isn't against the one year old low-res display of the SGS2. It's against other new HD displays including the yet to be released iP5. I'd assume the display on the SGS3 is going to have to last a year and there's going to be a lot of new phones released over that time.

The *****ing is going to center on this still from the video. You can see the pixelation. It'll bother the crap out of some people and others will care less. Until I see it next to my One X and use the SGS3 for a while I can't say whether it'll bother me or not. I'm certainly not looking for it too

These are against a One X; it's on the right.

There's clearly a difference; especially on the Instagram logo. So, let the debate rage on. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Kailkti:
Funny thing is I put a crappy screen protector on my s2 since I got it, which distorts the colours/images noticeably. So I've never gotten the fullest out of my screen. With that said I'm fine with the pentile distortion.

$1 gets you a reply
[Galaxy S III General] tbong777:
WHO sees their phone at that magnification? I put my Notebook 10 feet away and it looked great and still larger than it would on the S3. LOL
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
You honestly have to be trying to look for pixelization to see something like that. You would have to be looking hard for the pixels than the actual image that you're suppose to be looking at.

Can you post your source also? I swear those are comparisons of the one X and the one S collection. Of course I could or probably am wrong.

Do you have any half and half screen shots of the screens from a distance? If you could see pixels in those then I would say something against hte pentile. But again, at 10X to 100X doesn't really mean a damn till like you said we have the phones in our hands.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
You guys missed my point. I have no opinion. I won't have one until I use the phone for a week. Technically, until anyone here uses the phone as their daily driver, any opinions of good, bad, or indifferent are all speculation. Or wishful thinking either positive (fanbois) or negative (haters). But if you think the debate's bad now, mark my words, it's only going to get worse once people have the phone in their hands and start voicing their individual reactions. PenTile's always been polarizing (right or wrong) since it was introduced with hundreds of pages of debate on the forum of any device that’s used it.
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
Well... Actually most of the payed reviewers seem to have exactly the same opinion on the SGS3 screen as I do on the Nexus screen, although that can be a hype too. But like i said:

"The pixels pop out more than on my Sgs2 at normal reading distance."

So to me, the screen of the Nexus will seem like a downgrade. Thus I hope it will be better on the SIII. To me that seems reasonable, I don't know why it doesn't seem reasonable to you.

I don't listen to a 10 second preview of a song, find it annoying and then buy it to see if I get used to it. That would be kinda crazy. And with the SGS3, we are talking a 900$ gamble that I will like it. Thats the retail price for the 16 GB version in Denmark.
[Galaxy S III General] sewhuy:
http://www.oled-display.net/liti-la...ess-suggest-high-resolution-oleds-in-q2-2012/

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=.../09/Display_AMOLED_ReportE_201108_final_1.pdf
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
Hmmm... doesn't the Galaxy Note have a pentile display?
[Galaxy S III General] Knight47:
Samsung Galaxy S III Uses A PenTile Display Because It Lasts Longer http://t.co/HWBq915H -- Android News
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Well you sure like to play devils advocate for not having an opinion haha. There's a guy here with the Dev version of the SGS3 that pretty much has the same screen except different casing, he was the one that leaked pictures in the past.

We should ask him to compare it to a One X at an AT&T store. But at least we know a lot of reviewers have said the pictures DO NOT do the phone justice and the screen is great. They even say that the whole pentile debate is mute.
[Galaxy S III General] tolis626:
Guys,the screen may be the best out there,maybe it won't.But it surely will be among the best.It's a phone for Christ's sake.Yeah,an expensive high-end phone,but you can't expect everything to be 100% perfect for YOUR taste.Come on,relax a little.So what if it's a little worse than the One X?Isn't it still a really great screen?Preferences vary.Humans aren't all the same.

On another note,my eyesight is better than the average (fortunately or unfortunately I see too well for my taste) and I never found Pentile screens bad.True,the Galaxy S's screen is a little fuzzy compared to the Galaxy S II's screen,but that's about it.Plus,the screen on the Note is absolutely gorgeous.I'd have bought one for the screen alone if I didn't have some financial difficulties at the time.And yeah,it's pentile,but side by side to the iPhone 4S it doesn't look more pixelated at normal viewing distances.Heck,it didn't look that much more pixelated(only very slightly) at about 10-15cm away from the screen.And we're comparing a 3.5" to a 5.3" screen.

People seem to exaggerate about it,that is my conclusion.And I ain't speaking about an unreleased device I haven't had any experience myself with.If the GS3's screen really is better than the Note's and Samsung isn't only saying marketing bull****,I believe it will be awesome.If it's not,I'll connect it to my TV via HDMI,hook up a mouse and keyboard,use it as a secondary PC and be done with it. :p
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
Exactly. We have different preferences and different things apply to our taste or annoyance. So there is no right or wrong here. This display will suck for some and be awesome for others. But I keep argueing in here because people keep claiming that you can't see the pixels and that it will not annoy anyone. That is wrong. The pixels are visible and they will bother some and others won't care, which is fortunate for them. I am going to be cautious and see it in real life before I make a decision, but I am still hoping to be impressed. I am a very heavy smartphone user so the display quality of my phone is important to me. Especially since I hold it rather close to my face compared to my TV or PC monitor.
[Galaxy S III General] jeffreii:
Common sense and rationality? Not in the smartphone world of fanboys!

Pentile = Android fanboy gets mocked by Apple fanboy for "pen(t)ile" screen so he hates it.

The actual real world result doesn't matter, it's an on-paper-specs epeen contest!

Worst part about it is now I see we actually have SIII fanboys and HOX fanboys who hate each other's choice of phone but at least have the sense to share hatred for Apple.

Yeah, it's gross. A few of us can buck the trend though. SIII screen will probably be great for me but judgement needs experience. Send me my new phone, Samsung!
[Galaxy S III General] SiNJiN76:
Well at least now we are comparing/fighting about Android to Android, not Android to iPhone. Seems the iPhone is starting look smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror! Maybe another year or two for it to not even be in these debates anymore?
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
Like I said, I don't agree. At least not with the pentile displays currently on the market. On all the phones currently on the market with pentile displays, the individual pixels are clearly visible at normal reading distance which is not the case with RGB displays like the Galaxy S II.
[Galaxy S III General] ale0crysis:
Are you really serious when comparing this display on some distance is not normal to be used in every moment of our life? GSM arena say this display is the best display they have seen recently so stop having dubt or argue on stupid question , i don't want use my GS III on 1 cm distance from my eyes, it's not normal, NO SENSE AT ALL!
[Galaxy S III General] avocco:
You guys are too much. I had the Galaxy S2 and moved onto the Note, the screen is definitely an upgrade.

I've not seen the pentile display on a nexus but on the Note it is absolutely gorgeous. I've even compared it to the wife's iPhone 4S retina display and it still wins hands down.

Even compared to the iPad 3, the colours are far richer and the image just jumps right out at you. If the Galaxy S3 display is anything like that of the Galaxy Note then it is something very special.
[Galaxy S III General] jonathanyong:
This post seriously made me burst out laughing! Are you seriously nitpicking at details that require something like 30x magnification to even notice??! Jesus christ man aren't there other issues that deserve more attention than this?
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
Apparently not. If there were, this thread wouldn't be 8 pages along with another 20 page poll thread asking "Does the S3's pentile matrix clinch victory for the HTC One X?" And I'm the one who said he's yet to form an opinion. There's plenty of confirmed anti-PenTile posters for you to go after if you're looking for a debate.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Yep, much prefer my friend's Note screen over my SGS2 screen.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
Would anyone here not have preferred that Samsung put a "plus" display on the SGS3? I actually came in to this far more anti-PenTile than I am now. This site is hosted by Nouvoyance who licenses the technology. It's so pro PenTile and non-objective you'd have to question why any other display technology exists. But in between the propoganda they make some valid points; especially regarding PenTile's impact at high resolutions. That's what moved me toward the center.

http://pentileblog.com/

And no matter how good the SGS3 display is, based on reviews, it'll end up tying with the One X. The SGS3's not suddenly going to undo all the positive reviews the One X's display has racked up. In my little mind the three things I'm comparing against in deciding between the two is: 1) Is the SGS3's display good enough (for me), and 2) based on seeing how it looks in person (and in a case) which of the two would I want to put down on a table in a meeting, and 3) which one is likely to hold up better from being knocked around. The winner stays; the loser goes on eBay.
[Galaxy S III General] jonathanyong:
Sorry, I thought you were implying that you were vehemently against pentile.

My opinion is that these microscopic comparisons are completely meaningless because human beings can't even focus at such short distances, let alone be able to discern individuals pixels at 300+ ppi.

If people want to compare pentile vs lcd2 side by side, how about comparing things like the legibility of text on a zoomed out web page, color reproduction of images and gradient banding, all of which should be done at normal human readable distances.
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
If your normal reading distance is 1 cm, you have worse eyesight than I do. My normal reading distance on a smartphone is 30-40 cm. At that range, the sub pixels on the Nexus display stand out.
[Galaxy S III General] Mafiatounes:
I really don't understand people talking about the SIII pentile layout and saying it is bad, frankly when i had my Note i thought it was'nt a pentile layout because it was really crisp. The Note's ppi is lower than the SIII so the SIII will definitly be sharper by quitte a lot.

My question to the guys who bitxh and moan about the display and have magnified images is will you use a magnifying glass to see what is on the screen?:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] Arsaw:
I really don't get it. No matter how much I try, I see no such sub pixels on the Nexus. Do I need to see doctor or just leave that way?
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
I think you should be happy it works for you.
[Galaxy S III General] Snuble:
A lot of us are starting to run out of arm length when reading stuff without glasses :p

So far the previews have said the screen is good, so then its probably a good screen. If its still a competetive screen in a year or two years, only time will tell.

Maybe we'll have a zero lag color e-ink screen by then, but for now --- I can live with a screen thats good (if previews are to be believed) even if it lack the plus that I most likely will not see difference on anyway. The removable battery and extra memory card more then make up for that...
[Galaxy S III General] nöt:
Can we expect to get a screen comparison between the s3 and one x before its release?

And can you tell me something i should look at to be able to see the pentile on the nexus or note?

So i can go to a store and check out if i acctually can see it and not bother to wait for the s3.
[Galaxy S III General] barondebxl:
A lot of people complaining about the pentile matrix don't know anything about it. They just hear stuff about it and whine. At that high resolution you won't notice a thing. I had a note and a galaxy nexus and I cannot see any pixelation or anything. They say you have to look really close well I don't plan on holding my phone one inch to my face as it will kill my eyes.

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Totally agree. iPad 3 screen is something else, it's beyond amazing especially when you turn the brightness up I was speechless the first time I turned it on. One x screen is good but when I saw it I thought colors were a little washed out that's just my opinion.

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Seriously you must have 30/30 vision because I'm looking at my nexus right now and I'm trying really hard to see pixels but I can't I swear. Maybe I don't know what a pixel looks like or something cause you just can't see it at that high resolution.
[Galaxy S III General] Gnarfsan:
I am 35, near sighted and have perfect eye sight up to about 1 meter. If you are trying to convince me that I didn't see what I saw, it's not working, because I did see it. If you are trying to convince everyone else that I'm lying, I suggest they go see the screen and make up their own mind.

What I see is that letters arent rounded. I don't have that problem with the iPhone 4S at all. I don't like the iPhone at all, but the screen is pretty good.
[Galaxy S III General] americasteam:
Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean others can't. I've had several pentile screens before and ended up getting rid of all of them becuase of it. I can tell from normal viewing distances. I'm not saying I will never buy another amoled pentile screen. Heck, I have a One X right now, and I severely miss the black levels that amoled provide. Beautiful phone, but it may go back because of this issue. Pick your poison I guess.