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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamui957:
I had an HTC One S and, while I wait for my One X, have an Xperia Play running ICS Beta. I also had a Sensation running ICS before I left T-Mo.

Here is my experience from the One S (aka the One XL Mini...)

I never had any issues with backgrounded apps and multi-tasking. The page would have a re-render, but not a re-load. I would see a low-res snapshot in themultitasking menu, but when I'd tap it to go back to the browser, it would re-render (but not reload, I wouldn't lose my spot on the page nor lose what I was typing).

Music would continue to play or stream but the app would have to re-render (I'd have the splash screen for a second or two and then it would be back to where it should be).

With Sense 4 the multitasking was working great for me on the One S, it would just have to re-render the GUI. Quite possibly the One X is experiencing a more advanced version of this with its different CPU than the One S (drivers may be different). The process may be trying to re-render, something goes wrong in the backend, and instead of just re-rendering the UI it has to reload everything. This could be an issue with the built in task manager in this case not killing processes cleanly, or killing processes it shouldn't.

Edit:

I have the re-render issue on my Xperia play 4g as well. I should note though that it does NOT log me out, drop the cookies or anything if viewing a logged in web page and I've had emails that I'm typing through company webmail that have stayed valid for HOURS without issue. I'll background the browser, look at other pages, text, use the phone, play a game or two, come back to the email and it's still up and the cookie is still valid (thanks to how our OWA handles). I do think that while some of this is just a change in how ICS handles multitasking I think there is a glitch in the software of the One XL.

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Not, really. I'm not sure Android would be able to handle more than 1.5 right now. Being able to address x+ amount of ram and being able to utilize it are two different issues.

Example:

You can shove 32gb of ddr3 1800 ram into a desktop. You can have Windows 7 x64 installed. Will you have as much of a performance boost over someone with 8-16gb ddr3 1800? Nope. Windows 7 x64 can address a crap ton of ram, but that doesn't mean it can utilize it for better multitasking or rendering. Unless you have applications that map correctly to ram and efficiently you have no real boost to performance.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
Check out this video of what a type being erased.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jason.hamilton:
This phone is going to get my fired. I work in tech support and i have a strict 15 min break. Stupid timer keeps closing and not going off. Im not using a different app called simply "stopwatch" and it seems to stay up.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] muzzy996:
Hmmm. After a certain amount of RAM in a desktop PC Windows no longer needs to page as much to a page file and performance beyond that for a typical user no longer appears to improve as RAM is incrementally increased. You're describing this very thing and using it to compare against smartphones which in contrast currently need to dump applications via memory management. Is that a fair comparison? Seems as though currently with 1gb of RAM these phones are dumping applications to free up space and then having to reload them when needed.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] etismyname:
Not sure if it will help anyone but I just tried out some apps and see when and what will get killed.

If I opened facebook, gmail, a game and a browser, nothing will be closed, there will only be a slight re-rendering graphically, no reload, no problem

If I however, open another game or a movie player, the game A will be closed and has to reload if you open it again. everything else were fine (they did not have to reload etc)

there was no problem with just running a movie player and switch between an internet explorer.

I will post more if anyone is interested (especially those who doesn't have the phone yet)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dharani1234:
Could you pls test navigation and google music ( streaming from the cloud ) ? ( Open navigation ...switch to music ,play a song and switch back to navi ) Thats what I use the most while traveling ...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
This just sounds like a case of there being too little free memory - there is enough available for some light apps, but as soon as you load something heavier it has to purge some stuff. How much memory do you have free on your device with every app closed? How much SHOULD we have free?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamui957:
Again, I'm describing my experiences with two ICS phones (one being almost identical to the One X) which disproves the idea that Sense 4 and ICS are to blame. I did not have any of the troubles described in this thread with multitasking. The only problem I had with Sense 4 and Navigation was the lack of a menu soft button that I was used to.

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What you are assuming is, of course, that the lack of memory is why apps are being dumped. I have had several 750-1gb ram phones and never had this issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tian105:
in my experience, no matter how long i leave temple run running in the background. it will always pick up from where i left off. therefore, it leads me thinking that this is a software issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
Yea... Temple Run, Peggle, and Solitare Megapack... so far they are 3 games that definitely don't seem to have a problem... And I'm still not sure if Chrome is actually reLOADING the page or just redrawing it... Honestly the biggest issue is Google Maps, having to re-search for directions when I come back to it. And Spotify seems to stop if I get a notification while it's playing in the background.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I tested a 10 minute timer today and left it running the background. Went off fine. Are you opening several more apps after you start the timer? I wonder if the aggressive multitasking is killing it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
greyhulk, does the S3 behave exactly the same way as the One X as far as this goes?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
HTC just wrote me back again and said the rep said he is escalating the issue because he can reproduce the problems I'm describing. He asked me for a whole lot more info about my phone, apps installed, etc etc, so we'll see what happens when he writes back (or calls) again.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Kojaes:
Hey , there's an idea , why wont you try to check the mb you've used before and after with google built it internet mb tracker .

anyway i really want to buy one x already , i just need htc to acknowledge this issue ... if they don't , i might get galaxy nexus and save a few $.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Yes, in my testing so far it does. That's all I can say about the device, though. The only test I performed was loading a web page, going home, loading a few other apps, then going back to the browser using multitasking. The entire page reloads.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
If you can't comment on this I'll understand.. using the same browser in both is there any difference in page loading speed?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Sorry, man. I really can't. At least not until the GS3 is available for sale. I shouldn't really have even commented on the multitasking, but I wanted to put some minds at ease, as it certainly made me feel better to know it wasn't JUST the One X.

That being said, I just tested it on my Galaxy Nexus and my Nexus does NOT have this issue. So, it's either specific to the skin overlays, or the One X and GS3 have less memory to work with. No matter how hard I try, I cannot open enough apps on my Gnex to cause the browser to completely reload. It just multitasks right back to the same page.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SysAdmNj:
Can anyone confirm that if in fact we are able to unlock the bootloader soon, and can then flash cm7 that we'll have real multitasking back and the other silly issues we're experiencing here fixed?

I mean this is really nice hardware and the camera is the best of any smart phone I've ever had but the software is literally junk and crippling the android experience. T minus 27 days and if they dont let us unlock the bootloader then it goes back. Another phone at&t manages to cripple.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bigjim1488:
You don't get anything set in stone but I'm confident CM will get the HTC one going
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] paz2005:
my response from HTC:

" Thank you for the additional information. Upon reading the thread I believe I understand exactly what is being discussed. This is a built in feature of the ICS ROM. The ROM is designed to efficiently manage memory. If you open an application that requires constant status update in order to run (not capable of updating as a background process), such as a game application, you can then open up to two more processes and have the original application save correct status. I’ll give you an example. If you open ‘Angry Birds’, then use the recent apps button to switch tasks, you can switch to browser and texting (or any other two applications) and go back to Angry Birds and have your game progress as it was before you left the screen. The moment you open the third additional application, Angry Birds will be pushed to the background and your game status will be lost as it cannot update as a background process, Paul. With this in mind, the device seems to be working properly. We do listen to our customers, however, and will keep this in mind on future updates if this feature becomes troublesome for them."
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] lilhyper:
Anyone try the V6 Supercharger script? It fixed a lot of the multitasking issues for me. My browser no longer reloads every time I task switch.

However, I did lose the SMS pictures in the stock messaging app, I'm not sure why.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ViperXIV:
Well what about the browser? Even if I go to the home screen and right back to the browser without opening another app it has to reload the page.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
i've been in a couple calls and emails back and forth with them too. waiting on a response right now. if what they told you was true i could probably live with it (even though really, that's not as good as iOS multitasking) BUT i just tried it with angry birds space and it didn't work. totally reloaded to the main menu. i'm guessing its the same for regular old angry birds too...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Can anyone with a Vivid duplicate what we are seeing? I'd like to verify if it's ics or sense 4.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
Here's one thing.

Install a launcher like Nova. Set it as default. Reboot.

Now try.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
So much for Sense 4 being "lighter" than before. Did any review sites even bother multitasking at all? Most of them aren't worth reading...just a bunch of blogs saying the same thing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] h8rift:
Guys....this is an aggressive setting set to most likely (you guessed it!) increase battery life!

Yeah its a hassle....but send HTC formal complaints... From the HTC dude's response...he is asking for complaints so they can fix it. Don't fly off the handle if you arent gonna toss in a support ticket or call to stack up your complaints...all that does is make us HOX owners look like whiners on every nit-pickable thing :-p.

Keep fighting the good fight gentlemen!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nativestranger:
It actually worsens battery life. On my previous phones i can keep my browser tabs open and do other stuff with the browser in the background taking up 0 cpu cycles then continue reading them when i return. One the one x whenever i return it needs to load up the tabs again from 3g connection. This ends up draining alot more battery.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Hunt3r.j2:
Don't set "Fix Permissions" and never run the option to do so ever. After that, you have to manually reset the proper permissions on the contact image folder, and then delete your facebook account from the phone and resync it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 00mred00:
On my note i have the same browser issue. i started using xscope browser. tabs are there every time...right where i left them
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TjRoidz:
Hey guys I'm with Lilhyper

Have any of you tried the v6 supercharger script? This is pretty much guaranteed to make a difference.

I highly recommend it :-)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] supertrekie:
For anyone wondering what script is being mentioned back and forth here ya go:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991276
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
Anyone tried the new RUU yet to see if multitasking is fixed?? im installing now, will update later if someone else hasnt..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
That's BS because my Gnex doesn't have this issue at all. Stock ICS lets you multitask with as many apps as you want and doesn't close any of them or lose the state. I tested this extensively last night.

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I have a note and a Skyrocket. It's a different issue. The stock browser on those phones simply forgets the page you're on immediately after you leave the browser and when you come back, it loads the default homepage. It was an annoying bug, but it's not related to this.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bigjim1488:
I feel Att wants this to happens so my data gets eaten up relaoding all this pages, fb, instagram, etc
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Okay, I just tested this. 1) open webpage, 2) hit home, 3) open angry birds and start playing, 4) multitask to browser and page reloads, 5) multitask to angry birds and it completely reloads, losing progress.

Not even 2 apps? This isn't even Android. Hell, iOS has better multitasking (or at least saved state) than this. This phone is no good to me if I can't even multitask between two effing apps. I love the hardware and would be tempted to keep it in case an update addresses this, but the fact that HTC seems to think it's normal makes me think that they have no intention of ever addressing this and it's "normal" to them.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
Yesterday I was listening to Spotify through my car's bluetooth connection and needed directions (before leaving the parking lot). Went to maps, hit navigation, and the music paused while the friendly robot lady voice told me the next turn. But the music didnt unpause (like it would on my Android v3.3 phone). Had to re-open Spotify because it had been terminated.

Even if you count Maps and Nav as two separate apps, that still didnt pass the three apps limit. Plus I have the "no more than 4" limit checked in developer options.

What really confuses me is that when a task get 'killed' it is still in the task manager as a running app. Is it really terminating the app, or is it just aggressively clearing the cache every time you switch apps?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
I'm on 1.82 and it seems to be much better with app switching. I'll try some more and report back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
i kind of doubt it, but I'll be interested to hear your findings.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] imstill@g:
I second that
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] luukaz:
hi all xperia s users. i've recently become an owner of this phone and i am very pleased overall with its performance and design.

but during phone calls the speaker isn't loud enough, especially while traveling on the bus and in other laud places.

but i have noticed that when i play music from the phone's speaker it is much louder, so it is not an issue of the hardware, but the volume seems to be limited during a normal phone call.

so can the volume during taking phone calls can be increased in some way beyond its current maximum value?

cheers

lucas
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 18lama:
+1 to this issue. The speaker phone is very subdued compared to music when its played through the speakers.

I am on 62 firmware, has this issue been fixed in later updates?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] luukaz:
any help guys?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] anarchyuk:
yeah I have noticed the volume is low, never used to be!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] asg.srtw:
Anyone found a way to fix this?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] giannaros21:
speaker volume

since it works fine in walkman and videos it's not problem of the hardware as it is obvious....i had an lg 2x before xperia s and i flashed a newer baseband and the noise in calling gone and the volume fixed....even when i install cm9 ics the speaker in calling got even louder...so i think it would be kind to search for a better solution by software such as try some basebands or kernels...but to flash this we need root...so if you hope for a fix root required otherwise we can stay as we are now...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ashqmallik:
This is a flaw that Xperia S came with. The Loudspeaker during call. Cant really say if its a hardware problem or software.
[HTC One S] pillepalle92:
Hey guys!

I'm quite new to the android world. I'm very happy with my One S, but I haven't found a way, to stream videos from my NAS with the screen off. :confused:

(In order to improve my language skills I listen to english tv-series before sleeping. Before I got my new phone, I used my Ipod Touch with the "Video Lock" app from Cydia)
[HTC One S] verboten:
The only way i have found to do it is to use diceplayer. In the settings of diceplayer you can select Background Playback. That allows you to power off the screen and continue video playback.

My setup I have found works best. I use ES File Explorer to navigate to my NAS. When I select a video file, it asks what player to use. I select diceplayer and once the video starts, I turn off the screen.

I have found that sometimes my wifi will go into low power mode with the screen off and playback audio gets choppy, so I have to use a widget called WIFI High Performance Widget.
[HTC One S] pillepalle92:
thx, it works. I was using mediahouse+mxplayer, mediahouse+diceplayer works for me now! :)
[HTC Rezound] rcavalier3:
I'm tired of waiting for the ICS ota, can anyone tell me any reason why I shouldn't run the ICS leak and just wait forever for the official build to release?
[HTC Rezound] Christopher3712:
You shouldn't really wait at all. There's no real downside to flashing the 3.14 leak. Even if VZW releases one with security patches later on, one of our devs will just break it and we'll see it as an updated ROM that we can flash.
[HTC Rezound] rcavalier3:
Sounds good enough for me. Thanks, I'll probably do it tonight after work! Which Rom/ kernel do you recommend?
[HTC Rezound] Christopher3712:
I flashed the update, wiped, then flashed Team PKMN's Venasuar ROM. The stock 3.14 ICS ROM leak is nice, don't get me wrong. It's just that they really did a bang-up job with their ported Sense 4. Version 3.2 should be dropping sometime today.
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
I believe the only two roms built off the new base so far are Nils' Business ICS 4.0 and Ineffabilis Deus v1.0 BETA. Use the kernel that comes with them and don't use any CPU control apps with it. It'll be only a matter of time before the other ICS roms update to it.
[HTC Rezound] rcavalier3:
Thanks fellas!
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
I suggest doing the s-off procedure and doing a radio/patched 2.21 hboot flash, then choose your rom along with flashing new firmware patch.

Get your hboot off of unlimited.io

Your radios from here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22765878&postcount=3

So you can run the new radios on current roms, get new firmware patch from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
[HTC Rezound] rcavalier3:
I may sound like a huge noob by asking this, but is it easy to brick doing the s off? I would rather s off, that's how my dinc was!
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
There has been some reports of bricks.
[HTC Rezound] Watercycle:
I personally tried the S-off yesterday, but ADB devices stopped responding and I would have to fastboot install amonra again and reflash my kernel to get out of the soft brick

Others have had much worse, the majority has had great sucsess, my problem is probably rom based, others, not sure =)

Worth the risk but it would be nice if there was a like instant messaging help for when things go wrong >XP
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Meraklis56:
I just installed v27 HTC keyboard and i have a problem with the smileys...For some reason the smileys don't fit in the screen..I mean that i have 10 smileys and only 7 of them appear cause the others aren't on the screen for me to touch them..Is it a resolution problem?How can I fix it??
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] n1kolaa:
i Think is no way To fix it -.-'
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Meraklis56:
why is that??What's the difference between my phone and the others?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Meraklis56:
anyone please?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Dawoods:
push menu button, and choose insert smiley.. you will see all stock smileys... :-):-)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Meraklis56:
i did that also,but same problem..After 7 smileys the other 3 won't appear beacause they don't fit on the screen..It should be like the picture in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=624416!!Do i have to download a version with another resolution?Low resolution for example?
[HTC Sensation] 2ndIdentity:
Hi all,

I am pretty new in creating a mod myself (a total noob in fact :o). I would like to try creating a custom battery icon mod for the rom I am running, Coindroid.

Any kind souls out there can link me to useful resources or guide me in creating a flashable zip to change the battery icon in Sense 4 roms? Preferably guiding me in what files to modify (e.g what .png files to replace and how to decompile, replace and compile them). Noob proof resources are very appreciated!

Thanks in advance for the help! :)

From an eagerly learning noob.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
If you're a complete noob then just use UOT kitchen to modify your framework-res.apk and create a flashable file. It's completely automated!

Otherwise you'll need to use apktool to edit your framework png's, add/edit xml's, and then create an updater script packed together with binaries and the file system in a zip file which you'll have to sign.

http://uot.dakra.lt/

http://code.google.com/p/android-apktool/
[HTC Sensation] 2ndIdentity:
Thanks again for the reply!

And yup, I am totally aware of UOT kitchen. But, I would like to learn how to build a custom flashable zip (guess most of us started out as a noob right?) and to be able to swap in my own custom designs instead of choosing from a set of available designs from UOT. :)

I'll try and learn apktool. :D
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
First, take a look at a kitchen modified recovery flashable file. Extract it and look at the updater script. I actually recommend doing that for ANY file you plan to flash! You'll quicly pick up on how to make scripts...

Next, use apktool to decompile the original framework and the modified framework so you can compare the differences.

Don't be afraid to poke around at stuff as you'll learn more that way!
[HTC Sensation] 2ndIdentity:
Thank you again for your feedback! Will definitely do that.

Won't be afraid to poke around, since it's my summer vacation now, got plenty of time here. :D