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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
trust me i'm with you on this one. i jumped from t-mobile over to at&t for this phone (and to get away from my spotty signal). i absolutely did not want to have to "tinker" for my phone to work good. don't get me wrong, I love XDA, but i've spent WAY more time in the last few days on here than I expected to when I left that AT&T store. i really hope this is just a bug that they can fix.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zonk7ate9:
So ya, I've been sitting here with my Xoom for the last 20 minutes flipping back between 8 apps, and NOT ONCE did any of them reload when I switched back using the task switcher.

Something is definitely going on with multitasking on this phone. Althought, from what I can tell it's not a real reload. Almost like it's caching it, similar to the way google.com gets cached in the browser, you can load it with airplane mode on. I think it is has to do with power management. In my testing apps like Gmail and Messages never reloaded on me, but Pulse, Chrome, Facebook, Tweetcaster all did. It has something to do with data connectivity I'm guessing. Also, I don't have any problems with my music apps. Actually, Spotify started working better after I did the developer option fix.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] V@no:
Is there a way contact HTC on this issue, would like to hear what they say..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SysAdmNj:
Ok this is a problem when ios and windows phone multi tasks better than this device.

Would this change if we could flash roms onto the device? I'm hoping alot of things would change for the better?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] garrettjjjj:
I'm sure you can but good luck getting a response out of them.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bigjim1488:
Now I really want root so I can just flash vanilla and be done with this nonsense
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jeffreii:
Not sure if I interpreted your post incorrectly but what am I supposed to do? Buy an older Android phone instead of waiting for the SIII or One X to get bugs ironed out? I want a new, top of the line phone.

Maybe you didn't read my post properly or are just too quick with the accusations...

I was planning to buy the One X but "bugs like this are keeping me from switching" and so I have held off from my purchase until the One X gets these major bugs fixed or the SIII comes out.

I am following the forums to keep appraised of the current status of the bugs. Got it?

I totally understand this and the idiocy of your average user...but at least give us an option buried deep in the settings to make the multitasking work in "advanced" mode or something for savvy users.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ddaniel87:
I was going to give HTC till day 29 prior to returning it,, however, ive changed my mind. Taking back tomorrow morning. It frustrates me to no end for the following reasons in order of importance.

1. Battery Life- only 6-8 hours with maybe 1.5 hours screen time. Thought maybe I received a dud based upon the reports of others but,,,,

2. Multitasking- there is none. 3/4 of the memory is ate up with crap running which probably accounts for the lack of caching. Due to there being no multitasking, my old iphone, iphone 4s and lumia 900 wipe the floor with this unit. It actually reminds me of the old galaxy S in terms of performance.

3. messaging- no notification

4.Can only send one attachment at a time.

5. email, cant click links, must copy

6. email- when you move an email to a folder, you must do additional steps to get back to inbox

7. System- pretty much everything requires so many additional taps, it is counter intuitive

8. camera- not on par with iphone 4s or galaxy s2, however software is better.

I really wonder if the compression settings are what is destroying the photos.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tian105:
1. Battery Life- only 6-8 hours with maybe 1.5 hours screen time. Thought maybe I received a dud based upon the reports of others but,,,, DOAs happen. Exchange it

2. Multitasking- there is none. 3/4 of the memory is ate up with crap running which probably accounts for the lack of caching. Due to there being no multitasking, my old iphone, iphone 4s and lumia 900 wipe the floor with this unit. It actually reminds me of the old galaxy S in terms of performance.This most likely will be resolved sooner or later

3. messaging- no notificationHTC announced OTA to fix this soon.

4.Can only send one attachment at a time.Try a alternative in playstore.

5. email, cant click links, must copyTry a alternative App in playstore.

6. email- when you move an email to a folder, you must do additional steps to get back to inboxthe additional step took me a second or two..

7. System- pretty much everything requires so many additional taps, it is counter intuitive Custom Roms are coming soon, i actually am more than impressed with this phone's stock performance. This might be the best stock android phone ever launched.

8. camera- not on par with iphone 4s or galaxy s2, however software is better. I really wonder if the compression settings are what is destroying the photos. I too have owned both the galaxy Note N7000(which has the same camera as the GS II) and Iphone 4s. While the cameras are nice, but each of the lenses have their pro and cons. i wouldn't say any of them is significantly Superior than another

I would give this phone a couple more weeks before turning my back on it. It's hands down one of the best smartphone I've ever used.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
I agree with everything you say. He's new to android so not familiar with what's around the corner. This phone is going to be a monster very soon. He'll wish he hadn't returned it. :p coming from nexus one, Evo, then sensation..they ALL had major issues at launch but turned in to some of the nicest phones of their time, thanks to the devs here. Thanks devs! cant wait to buy yall more coffee!!

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You can start on their facebook page. Sure you can email them, maybe ask one of the guys in the boot-loader threads who've posted conversations with HTC about boot-loaders.. They all seemed to get responses of some sort lol. It would be nice to hear what they say.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tehdef:
1. Battery - Your phone is a dud. I get 24+ hours with 4 hour screen time. Exchange it, dont replace it.

2. Mtasking - will be fixed with bootloader

3. Messaging - What do you mean, no notification? Mine makes a noise or vibrates on message received and puts a note in my notifications bar... Maybe because it's not on your lock screen? Oh well. Blinking light + # on the lock screen next to messaging app is fine for me.

4. Attachments - send an email if you want more than 1 attachment...

5. Email - I can click links just fine, not sure what you're talking about. Expand on that.

6. Don't deal with that very much

7. Counter intuitive? Are you coming from an iphone or something? Whatever.

8. Cam - Maybe your system sucks. Mine is fine. I enjoy it more than my iPhone and I've seen comparison shots that each have their own pros and cons based on lightning.

Sounds like you just want to be unhappy, so bye.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ddaniel87:
Unfortanately, I am not new to android. New to the forums yes, but not android and not HTC for that matter. I have experienced HTC's delay in updates before and long winded promises of fixes. I have had the One X since the Thursday before release, the battery will not be improving so yes exchanging was an option. I have tried several fixes for the messaging and battery but it hasn't worked. There are other issues that abound as well. For instance, delete the extra blank pages in your home screens, reboot your phone, and your home page will move to a different page each time and all the blank ones will return. HTC has made quality products in the past and yes, Sense has improved significantly over the previous versions, but it has issues. As do all formats. I do not want to get into a tit for tat argument with anyone. I am simply stating the obvious. There are problems with the device. I have spent countless hours rooting and replacing ROM's on devices but I don't feel this should be viewed as a solution to the phone itself. And the average consumer should be aware that short of replacing the software, if you purchase this phone, you will have significant issues.

And yes to the original post, I also have experienced the data issues you referred to. And for the most part I have been able to isolate the problem to the wifi. When connected to wifi and leaving the range of a wifi source, the phone struggles, or simpy will not reconnect to the cellular data network. It will remain in a loop attempting to connect to the wifi even after WIFI is disabled through the switch or airplane mode. The easiest fix is to reboot. And yes, HTC has identified this as an issue as well.

I would like to think positive and believe that HTC will release fixes for the issues promptly, but I would bet money on ATT making even that difficult and untimely.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
Not quite the same as what's being discussed. I can't have something playing in the Youtube app or any video player without it stopping or pausing if I even go to the Home screen to open another app (eg. Chrome). Is this par for Android or the issue at hand because it's extremely annoying.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] V@no:
It's been always like this, on any device. Some video players have option to enable playing on background, but it's very rare.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] alias3800:
As far as the video is concerned, can you at least keep the audio of a video running without having to watch it? iOS mean keep the audio of a YouTube video, for example, running in the background while you do anything else.

Hearing this lack of multitasking is deterring.. Reminds me of Windows Phone. You don't realize how accustomed you are to multitasking until your phone just stops doing it. Annoying.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] alias3800:
Oh man.. I just read a few more pages. It's WORSE than WP7.5? Damn. Hopefully HTC responds with some updates. Good luck fellas.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
Nope. That's exactly what I want it to do.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
Yes unfortunately that's not even a bug. YouTube does not play in the background. Most if not all audio playing apps do. And YouTube will still play the audio if your screen turns off from inactivity, but that's all just how android has always been.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
Thinking about this, maybe it's not a bug or even an indication that the phone has less than ideal battery life. Maybe HTC is just trying to prevent against poorly coded third-party apps that kill the battery and generate support calls (since Android does permit more in this area than WP or iPhone). If it was a relatively simple thing to configure and did not significantly affect battery life as long as you use well-coded apps then it wouldn't be a big problem.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
This would make sense if this was an entry level device designed for amateur or first time smartphone owners...but for HTC to cripple their top of the line device like this is simply foolish.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TigaTiger:
Its turning like the iPhone system. Running one app at a time. If they want more memory and battery, they should have a in built task killer in trebuchet(stock launcher) like go launcher.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Seriously, as hard as it is for me to say this, the iPhone multitasking is SIGNIFICANTLY more advanced than this device.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Simba501:
:eek: Do you bite your thumb at us sir?

Sent from your mom's house.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] imstill@g:
The hardware on this device is beautiful, but the extent in which HTC and AT&T are going to jack it up is amazing. The GSiii is starting to look better and better, Its a real shame too. Sadly I had to place a reminder in my phone for the 29th day of ownership of my phone. Reloading every single time I go to the browser or any app for that matter is just ridiculous...HTC the return countdown is ticking, better get to it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Akatosh:
Well I've noticed the multitasking issue quite a bit and yes I know my ram is lower but to me, it seems like you're going to have to wait for custom roms. Any sense based rooms generally have bad multitasking but the best multitasking experience that I have ever had was with cyanogenmod 7(gingerbread) and miui ( gingerbread)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
I emailed HTC about this multitasking thing a couple days ago and they actually wrote me back last night and asked when a good time to call so they could try to work through the issue with me would be (and the rep assured me that multitasking is a very important feature of their ICS based phones). So I gave them some hours to call me in. Hopefully they'll call today and we'll see what happens. I'll report back later... Dreading the factory reset they're probably gonna have me do in the process of troubleshooting (haha) but whatever they say to try I'll do it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] AITT:
I beg to differ on this. I had the Nokia Lumia 900 before returning for the One X and the Multitasking was pretty damn good compared to the One X. Especially with games. Could be an hour later and I go back to the game and it was still paused where I left it. It depended alot on how your exit the app. But the MT on the 900 was much better than the One X.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
In general I dont mind most tasks being closed by aggressive task management....but I wish I had the option to pick a few programs to NOT kill until I say so. Check boxes under the task manager or something....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
I do mind...I mind a great deal.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
You guys both agree. He was saying that the video revealed that the One X has worse multitasking than the 900; that the 900 had better multitasking.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
Maybe somebody should ask all the tech sites that tagged this phone "the best android phone ever made" why they didnt do a thorough review.... how do you miss stuff like that?? that alone makes this phone NOT the best android phone ever made.....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eallan:
Why is that hard to say? Why do android fans have to keep up some facade of hating the iPhone? I just like technology.

You're right about the iPhone multitasking better than the OneX by the way.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
It was hard to say b/c that's been the knock on the iPhone from Android users since the beginning of time ;-) !! I love both OS's and trust me, I'm anything but a fanboy (always switching back and forth).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
That's what I was wondering! Joshua T. on the Verge had no problem criticizing the multitasking on the Lumia 900 but we can obviously see from the videos in the thread that WP is multitasking better than this phone. Yet no one mentions this at all! WP can hold 6 apps in the background and first party apps stay loaded in the background. Web-pages NEVER reload unless the phone has been powered off. WP can't continue network processes in the background. Is that all I am missing? I gain apps that can download in the background but in exchange for that all of my others apps will reload because the phone is struggling for memory?

I'd rather know what apps are about to be kicked out of memory instead of random ones just being kicked out because Android decided it wasn't important.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eallan:
Well said, but safari has always been able to run in the background ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
True....as well as Apple's other built in apps (ex: mail).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] lathode:
I haven't read the whole thread... but I did almost burn my dinner last night because I set a 15 min timer on my One X, switched to another app and never heard the timer go off because the app stopped running.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Wow that's pretty absurd! This thing better be fixed soon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I just tested this on the GS3 and it does exactly the same thing. Open a web page, hit home button, open a few more apps, then multitask back to the browser (by holding down the home button) and the browser reloads the page completely.

Could this simply be an ICS issue? I will test this on my Galaxy Nexus when I get home.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Simba501:
Didn't experience this on my Galaxy S2 with ICS.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
When you check the Galaxy could you use maybe Chrome, Pulse, Twitter, and something else?

[YOUTUBE]NiRuycMN5Wg[/YOUTUBE]

In this video at the 6:15 mark the reviewer experiences the same thing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Yes, will do. Given that the GS3 does it, though, I suspect it's not isolated to just the One X. I will test tonight and report back. I'm as curious as you guys are.

Funny thing: I never would have noticed this on the One X until I read this thread. Now it really bothers me, but I wonder if it ever would have come up if I hand't read about it.

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Ah, thanks for that. That makes me even more curious as to why the One X and GS3 do it. They have completely different overlays and the GS3 multitasking is fairly similar to stock.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
If it were just the web browser it wouldn't be a big deal. But when apps are closing in the background while still in use (ex: the timer issue someone mentioned a few posts back) or slacker closing without saving it's state, it becomes a major issue. I can 100000% assure you that the Galaxy Nexus NEVER gave me these issues so it's something unique to this device. I'm sure the Nexus reloaded web pages every so often but that's the least of the issues being discussed in this thread.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Yeah, I couldn't deal with Slacker closing on me. It kind of defeats the purpose of Multitasking, doesn't it?

Sad. The One X is an awesome device and this makes me seriously consider taking it back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quietglow:
I am guessing there is some novel sort of memory management going on. Try this:

Open maps, search for something nearby and get directions to it. Switch to and use several other apps, then switch back to maps. Maps will obviously reload and then, after a second or two, the directions reappear -- almost as if it has done the search/calculations for the directions again.

Maybe HTC is leveraging the very quick processor and network speeds? Theoretically if you can save an app state and restore it VERY fast, you don't have to leave it running in the background -- this is basically how you implement "multitasking" in iOS. I haven't looked into ICS to see if they're implementing this style of multitasking as well now.

Edit: If this is a switch in the way multitasking is handled, we can expect it to effect things this way. i.e. if the developers have to put in hooks to save state and such, there will be a lag period when stuff doesn't multitask as it should.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I considered this, and could even live with it to an extent, but if it's killing streaming music and timers that are running in the background, as others say, it is much more of a problem.

I'm testing it with a timer I set for 10 minutes in the background now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
You don't have to leave maps or any other programming running in the background at all. The os should just be saving the state and putting that in memory. Then when you revert back to the app it will load those states back and the program will pick up exactly where it left off before.

Edit: just to clarify, this isn't how you handle the timer app or something that needs to continue running. The example is more for a program like the web browser or a game.

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
I'm trying this on my EVO 4G with an ICS ROM. Seems I can multitask between 4 apps or so before switching back to the browser will force it to reload. Also, if I open a new app for the first time that is relatively memory heavy (YouTube, Maps) that can be enough to force the browser to reload alone.

I'd be interested if someone could try this on an international One X to see if this is the case with all new Sense devices, or maybe if AT&T requested this to reduce support calls or something.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
It is discriminating.

Streaming music doesn't get killed. So much so that manually killing something with media playing in the multi-tasking menu doesn't kill the app. I have to exit through the program.

EDIT: the music continues to stream but coming back to the program it loads as if for the first time. Bizarre.

On the other side of it apps that are being killed automatically aren't removed from the multi-tasking menu. Eg. a screenshot of Chrome stays in the multitasking menu. If you click on it that image is displayed momentarily before the page is reloaded.

I think quietglow might be describing it correctly. I didn't even notice this for a while because the processor handles it quickly in simple apps. But now that I do..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
see that doesn't even work for me. it goes back into google maps but with no directions listed. i have to manually re-search for the directions... if it just needed to refresh the page visually that wouldn't be an issue but its not even saving the state of what i was doing in the app...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
2GB of RAM sounds good right about now. Doesn't it? ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
A non-Sense AOKP based ROM sounds even better ;)