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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
Cool. I'm going to test that. I have some extra lines here so I'm going to stream some music and text it.

EDIT: I am currently listening to Slacker. The screen is off. I sent some text messages to the One X and I heard the alert go off. Yet the music is still playing. It did not stop. I will edit this after some more time passes to say if it is still working.

On a side note. This is my first time using Slacker and its not too bad.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] typhoonikan:
This really concerns me. Apparently this is no different from the memory management that my EVO 4G gets. Trying to multitask browser, music, and grindr on the original EVO is impossible for me.

I was really looking forward to a new phone that can handle true multitasking.

My HTC Jetstream running Honeycomb multitasks well. The EVO LTE is more powerful than the Jetstream and it will most probably have the same issue that the One X has.

Reloading an app entirely when leaving it after 10 seconds is extremely aggravating.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Seriously, what's the point of having more RAM if you can't even use it and it doesn't improve the user experience!?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
You don't think this is the most liquid smooth Android experience out right now?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
I do, but it's at the expense of the user experience (ie: lack of multitasking). The trade-off isn't worth it...it's not even close to worth it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Arsaw:
If you have no issue with your HOX, good for you but please do not stop people from complaining. Me, as potential buyer, would like to hear more about this issue on HOX. :eek:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
Well, I found something interesting streaming music from various apps. It's true as I posted above about music NOT stopping. While scrolling it plays. While the display is off it plays. Even when texts were sent to me. It alerted me and kept going. BUT that was with Pandora, MOG, and Google Music. All played fine, no issue.

Slacker is another matter. It's something that all those listed above work fine but Slacker cuts out after 1 song. I may have got 2 before it just shuts off (streaming music while screen is off).

grayhulk: I know you shouldn't have to but with all the others working you have to decide if the pros outweigh the cons. If its just the music app Slacker that stops streaming it does not bother me as much. It should NOT be this way for sure. But with Google Music, Pandora, and MOG all for sure working without issue I am fine.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] StrykerGT:
This morning I was using Spotify got a phone call and after I ended the call, Spotify stopped.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Well, based on other user feedback, Slacker isn't the only one doing it. That's my main music app because I can cache stations, which makes it infinitely more valuable to me than Pandora.

The thing is, I can start the same station on my Galaxy Nexus and it will run indefinitely (I have tested this), so the problem is not Slacker. It is the One X's ridiculous memory management.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamui957:
Okay, I've had a weekend with my One X and I have been able to force the issue people have been describing. It's hit or miss though.

For instance, I exited from Gameboid and got a notification that it was still running. - Several hours later, with several other apps opened after it, it still started right back up with just a couple seconds lag. Alarms never cease to go off for me and music still plays after I take a call if it was playing before.

However:

Webpages do reload completely instead of re-render like they did on the One S.

Play Market and Settings do this as well. Most other apps do too, though this isn't a deal breaker with me as I don't use "recent apps" all that much.

XDA Premium hasn't given me issues 100% of the time with this. It's about 70/30 in favor of working normally.

Seeing as International users have reported this... I think this may not really be an issue with the AT&T One X. I think this is laziness on the end of HTC. I think instead of re-writing Sense 4 for the S4 One X, they swapped out the drivers for the processor. This is evident in the One S. The One S is an AT&T One X minus LTE and with a smaller screen. I had a One S for 10 days that did NOT have this issue one bit. It would re-render the screen and that is all, no full reload. If someone could somehow port the One S software to the One X we would see a good stock experience without this issue. Just me 2c.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Alright, thread cleaned of all the trollish posts. This is the second time Ive had to come in here and clean things up. If you guys cant seriously have a civilized discussion, then please stop posting. There is some good information here and people are genuinely trying to help figure out this problem while other potential buyers of this phone are eagerly reading so they can decide.

If I have to come back here a third time to clean up, it could end up bad for a few members. Lets just talk about the phone and the multitasking issues, not about other members and their views or how they use their phone. Thanks.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Thank you red5.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Red5 throwing down the hammer!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
Im finding the same thing. Right after seeing the One X stop streaming Slacker I downloaded it on my GN. It played it non stop. Its would seem its not Ice Cream Sandwich but maybe HTC and the way it did the multitasking. BUT, it can't be all bad if the One X streams all the other music apps I tried. And the others do work. If they work for me they should work for others.

I also talked to HTC Tech support. They stated that other HTC phones are ALSO having problems with Slacker. But with the other music apps working (and I seen work for myself) they said Slacker will be releasing a update to make it more compatible not only with the One X but the other HTC phones not working right. The release date they did not know.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] muzzy996:
That's too bad for those of us using slacker then, bummer. Slacker's support sucks which is a shame since the service is unique and useful so I'm not hopeful for a slacker update anytime soon. My plus subscription ends in July, if this issue between my One X and slacker isn't resolved by then I won't renew. Still, the fact that the app works flawlessly on other devices and HTC puts fixing compatibility off onto app developers when it's rather clear their own coding messed things up is hard to swallow.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sschrupp:
Super annoying trying to download a bunch of apps. If you don't babysit the screen to keep it alive it'll stop downloading things.

The connection cutting out probably doesn't help much either but that's another discussion lol.

Eventually I'll have to try some of these fixes, but I'm hoping HTC or a custom ROM will provide a solution sooner rather than later.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
Thanks. I appreciate your response. The only problem I see with your answer is not date is attached to the solution. My wife and I are new HTC owners (Former Samsung, Iphone users)and without knowing when these concerns are going to be addressed, we will have to return our phones before the no remorse window which is June 5th. It would be great if HTC setup different profiles on the phone or a pop up setting requesting permission to run in the background, or prioritize what sense choices to run. As a right now, we cannot recommend the phone to any of our coworkers or friends as it is. I hope our communication exchange helps to improve the software. Thanks.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
The update from Slacker is just for that application. The other music sites I have tested all worked as they should.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
All I know is this:

Today I received an e-mail with a voicemail attachment on my Galaxy Nexus. I needed to call the caller back. There was no way to copy/paste the number from the e-mail and it wasn't clickable. I can't remember numbers to save my life. I had to multitask back and forth between the phone app and the e-mail app to type in the numbers to dial manually. Then, because I was in line at the store, I had to wait until I finished checking out to make the call, so I turned the phone off and put it in my pocket.

When I got outside, I turned the phone on, opened the phone app, and the numbers were still there. I'm extremely confident that I wouldn't have been able to pull that off with the HOX and that's a real-world example of why that phone will never work for me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Was just playing a streaming podcast using Pocket Casts with the screen off and app open. Got an alert about a meeting starting in 15 minutes. Pocket Casts stopped, the alert sounded. I dismissed the alert and had to go back into Pocket Casts to restart (and rebuffer) the podcast (where it left off, but it should have restarted after I dimissed the alert I would think).

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On that note, why is it that when I dismiss a calendar alert from the lock screen, it takes me to the notes for that event? Shouldn't it actually dismiss it entirely? Not sure if that's standard behavior being my first Android phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] drummaniac83:
Reloads page without data. must be re-rendering instead

I disagree about the browser (at least chrome) reloading pages. I went to mcdonalds for lunch, had a page loaded before I left. When I got there my HOX connected to the wifi but I didn't go to MCD's little login screen. I know my data connection was dead b/c I couldn't get on Google talk.

Then with a confirmed dead data connection, I went to the previously loaded tab on chrome. It rerendered and then displayed perfectly. Images and everything. It couldn't have possibly reloaded since I had no data connection at the time.

Anyone else tried this?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamui957:
Okay, I'm sorry but I do have to point out, this is not in any way condusive to this discussion. The point that this is overly aggressive memory management unique to the One X has been made. This is just beating the dead horse. Not only that, it's conjecture as you did NOT do it with both phones at the same time.

That being said, it is very annoying that if I try to do something while a bunch of apps are updating they stop downloading. I didn't notice this happening before, but since going to the leaked .82 I'm having a few more issues than I was having before. Alarms still seem to work though through the HTC Widget.

Also, with Slacker (and anything else that puts something in the notification window) I can't get it to die like everyone else is. I opened 5 windows on top of it.

I also should note I am refusing to use the recent apps button to switch to anything, I just kept opening new apps or opening them via their shortcuts and haven't had many things re-load.

Update:

I opened the Market via home screen, gmail via notification bar, had 1 alarm that I snoozed, a timer that I dismissed, opened the internet and let Android log in to google for me, opened and logged in to facebook and went back to the market and opened settings. During this I used the home screen for the market both times, no reload. Finally, I used recent apps to go back to Slacker... and no reload AT ALL. Opened straight up and just switched to the song that was now playing instead of the one that I had started 12 minutes before. So during all of this there has not been a single interruption of audio. Will try Pandora later. I don't have nearly enough music to test now, but I did play some music on my way to work earlier, took several calls, was playing it through the widget. No interruption. Same with Slacker, no interruptions after calls.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
The issue with Slacker from what I noticed is it cuts out. It does play as you said. And it will keep playing. But if I let the display turn off and let it stream music it will stop after about 2 songs. It worked as it should with Pandora, MOG and Google Music as I listed above.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamui957:
The screen has been off for the last 4 songs, nothing wrong so far. On song 5. So far so good. Honestly, I was having weird issues with Pandora a while back where it would try and play a video ad and freeze because the screen was off... Might be similar where it's hitting a freeze during ads? I've only had 1 ad so far and it played fine, so dunno.

I'm on .82 and I am not having any multitasking issues... which is strange. I just had a few screens re-render with Browser being the only one I can't tell if it was a re-render or reload as it flashed white and was back at where I was reading. I used the recent apps button and went back to my last 6 apps in order of oldest opened to newest, with the oldest being my email from an hour ago. It rerendered without any changes, play market opened to "my apps" and phased out to show a recently updated app in "installed" instead of "update"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
The way HTC did multitasking is not my favorite but its not really a problem for me. The thing I'm trying to see is if its causing music to stop playing or games to not be saved. So far, other than Slacker all the music apps have worked how they should. I'm going to start testing some games now. I want to see if I'm playing a game and go to check a message or check a email and see if I lose my progress.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mannequin:
another good example would be the facebook news feed.

no need to open many apps, just facebook and some tabs in the browser. you'll lose your position in the feed as it refreshes and starts from the very beginning as you switch back and forth between the apps.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I do own both phones and have tested it on both. It depends on how many other apps you have open in the background, but the moral of the story is that in real-world normal use, the HOX will kill apps you need to stay running. I experienced it dozens of times before I finally gave up and parked the phone. Telling me that I'm not being "conducive" to the discussion is your opinion. I can promise you that I have done much more scientific testing on this than you have, mainly because I wanted to find any reason I could to keep the phone. It became apparent that this was not something I could live with.

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You will. Nearly every time. I tested it with Angry Birds and a few others. Only a few times did it let me come back to the game without reloading. A vast majority of the time, the game would reload from scratch.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
The only games I've found that resume properly are quite randomly solitaire megapack (tiny game) and peggle (huge game). Everything else restarts. Tried dozens already.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
Ooooh this phone is going back HARD! HTC after I emailed them saying I've seen the press statement going around the tech blogs and I doing think that's right and explained why I think its broken, responded with word for word the exact press statement. That's so rude. They're clearly sick of hearing about us "enthusiasts"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vampyren:
I never liked HTC and now i remember why. I will be holding for GSIII. Touchwiz is pretty light and useful (if its anything like GSII).

Without resume for most applications and specially games and also reload for each browser page i say this phone is BROKEN!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RyanPost22:
The most infuriating issue with multitasking that I have has nothing to do with music, and everything to do with using GTalk on IM+. Try keeping a conversation open in IM+, then navigate to another couple of apps, and go back to the IM+ conversation. The entire conversation will be refreshed when you navigate back. Even if you receive a notification, pull the notification bar down and click the IM+ entry, the HOX will reload the conversation from scratch, and thus erase the message you just received. It happened to me several times, and so I started experimenting to confirm it. When it was not the primary app opened, the issue could be replicated. Google Talk does not produce the same issue, so there must be some sort of preference given to first party apps. I have an SGS2 running ICS Resurrection ROM, and so I loaded up the same scenario in IM+ and tried to force it to refresh the convo by opening more and more apps. It lost the convo zero times, even after I loaded up 8-10 other apps. I am now sadly relegated to bringing two phones to work so I can stay connected to GTalk/IM+ (I'm blocked on my work PC). By the way, I use IM+ instead of GTalk because the status options on GTalk suck.

I will be returning the phone if my 30 days are up before we can get the bootloader unlocked or some kind of fix installed. It's one thing to lose progress in a game (I don't play many games anyway), but it's a huge problem when a communication device cannot properly communicate.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
You know the funny thing is I went from an MDA to a Wing to a G1 to a G2 to a MyTouch4g Slide to a One X... all HTC... and I never really liked any of them. I mean much respect goes out to the G1 for starting the whole Android thing, but it froze constantly no matter what ROM i tried... And roughly the same story goes for the G2 and MyTouch (although the MyTouch was surprisingly smooth and I'm sure once I return my One X and go back to it, if I do a factory restore I'll get a good 6 more months out of it while I wait for another new phone). HTC sucks...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamui957:
Honestly, I've had this issue on every phone I've ever had, especially my iPhone 3GS from 3 years ago... In general until the latest facebook update I've always had problems with them reloading while I was in the app without anyone posting updates!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
well... if you guys were hoping for a fix... here ya go...

from the HTC rep that had been helping me thru 6 back and forth e-mails and 2 phone calls after I just complained that he just responded to me with just the standard press release about the issue...

"Thank you for your reply. I admit that I missed one of the sentences you wrote in your earlier response as I caught up with all of the correspondence that happened while I was out of the office. We have however worked with you extensively on this matter both via phone and email which is part of the reason we were able to get the official response to this matter. Thank you for your feedback and for your time."

I'd say they're officially done with listening to our feedback on this. I only hope that the other manufacturers don't pull this crap (like I've heard the Galaxy S3 has the same issues... let's hope not...)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
Wait a minute, wait a minute... you guys have Peggle in the States? WTF, PopCap! I want it in Canada!

Maybe I've got a reason to use MarketEnabler again.

EDIT: Oh wtf again... my DHD appears to be the only device I've got that's compatible. Not the One X, Hero, Jetstream, Transformer or TouchPad. You download it from somewhere else, polarbearmc, or am I missing something?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamui957:
Okay, why the hell are you starting with the personal attacks again? There is no reason for it. You are posting more as a vent than to further research. It has been admitted by HTC that this is a modification to sense. Going on and on about how you're ditching the phone and how other phones don't do this is really not condusive at all. Also, you have no idea what testing I've done with the 5 phones I've had in front of me over the past two months between carrier issues, OS and phone hardware problems, etc. I'm an IT Pro for a hospital, very hard to please, and finding myself with a bit of free time at work. I had this and an Xperia Play on ICS beta doing the same things at the same time that I had done with my HTC One S just a couple weeks ago. I can assure you I've done a crap ton of very "scientific testing" just not focused solely on this multitasking issue.

So, instead of saying over and over again how great your gnex is over the hox and how you don't trust your hox to do anything, you do more testing with your hox? Or send it back and bow out. Do one or the other, but stop with the attacking, PLEASE. I've already had to start skipping certain people's posts because all they are are *****ing about the phone and commentary, nothing remotely showing a pattern in why and how beyond the 3 app limit some apps don't die.

Now, if you have any retorts to this, how about we do that in PM instead of detracting from this thread and causing it to be closed for cleaning again, ok?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
You know what it was actually through the Amazon Appstore... Not sure if it's on the regular Play Store yet... It's awesome by the way :-) PopCap rules...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bones2374:
Pull down the notification bar,

Tap Settings

Scroll Down to the bottom

Tap Developer Options

Scroll Down to the bottom

Tap Background Process Limit

Change Standard Limit to "4 Processes"

And, If you Shutdown or Restart, you'll need to change this again!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
thanks for trying but if you look bak in the 50 pages, somewhere we all tried that (and tried most of the other settings in developer options too)... no go.

also even if that was the case, just the fact that it would come with the wrong setting as the default is crazy... you know what i mean?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
You told me that my posts weren't conducive to the discussion and I'm attacking you? You lack perspective.

I'm an I.T. Pro as well. I'm also the mobility expert for our company. I also very much wanted to be wrong about this issue, to the point that I tested extensively against every other phone that I own.

I will concede that I have no idea how much testing you have done. But I'm well aware of how much I have done. I'm also well aware of how much I have contributed to the discussion and it has been much more than simply "*****ing".
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
It's true about the games. The way when you play them and go do something, come back and it restarts. BUT IT IS ALSO TRUE that the One X is not the only one that does this. So I can't and will not hold it against it. Which ones for example? The Galaxy Nexus does the exact same thing. So theres no way I'm going to call and complain to HTC about the way it handles the games in multitask when the Nexus handles it the exact same way.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
Even when I go to the Amazon store, it still lists the Desire HD as my only compatible device. Anyhow, I've purchased it for my DHD and acquired the apk. Runs great on the OneX. Dunno what PopCap's talking about with their compatibility issues.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. Unless you have a ton of apps running in the background, the Gnex will indeed resume the game right where you left off. If you're going to compare, make sure you clear out all the running programs on both first. I tested this over and over and the HOX kills the game every time, the Gnex does not. At least, this is true with Angry Birds and Doodle God.