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[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
I now have 2 EVO 3D's ;)

I'm going to be testing a lot this weekend. I'm hoping it's going to be a quiet weekend.
[HTC EVO 3D] spirithandler:
Any luck so far?

also here is a stupid question but its been kinda bothering me.

What are the chances that the official update will fix this issue?
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Read the second post

Sent from my Sprint/Virgin Mobile hybrid
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
I think he means "is there an update" on any findings or etc. The last time the 2nd post was updated was June 1st, and he got the phone a couple days ago. I think that's what he means. Because I was tempted to ask if there was an update as well! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
If it matters at all, I got the error 16 when I went from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4. I called up sprint and they did a "permanent fix" that "fixed" It.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Like I said, while this works, I am fairly confident that it will likely be the root of more issues. I need to be able to get rfg_1 to as close as "normal" as possible, so that these little issues aren't present, or are as minimal as possible.

Besides, a little more time in testing won't hurt, (we've already been stuck this long) plus the more knowledge I have of how this works, the better off we'll be in the long run. I'll be more prepared to handle issues when they aris. And the tool will be more bulletproof than it is right now.
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
Hey, you know what you're doing, not me. I was just letting you know that it happened to me a while back. Wasn't saying it would never happen again or anything like that.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
We're getting there, slowly but surely. This test device definitely helped cause it gave me the problems that others were getting with theirs (zero'd out stuff) and now I can easily test and fix them. And I've definitely gotten farther than I was before in a much shorter period of time.

Thanks again. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] droiddawg:
Even though I've upgraded to the LTE, I can't wait for my 3d to be fixed. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ausch30:
I was just thinking the same. I got the LTE on 5/27 and I just decided to look back and see if this issue ever got fixed. Good luck to all, hopefully Unknown's efforts and knowledge can get everyone out of that mess. Even though I no longer have the phone I was still thinking of throwing him some beer money just for the effort he's put into this.
[HTC EVO 3D] ulum_joe:
Hope that Unknownforce can fix.things up,,, I just sad seeing my Evo 3D just sitting...
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Even after nocturnal fix:

Sent from my Sprint/Virgin Mobile hybrid
[HTC EVO 3D] EJerVJerO:
Lucked out on this I was a victim of the VM firmware and just this weekend my microphone went *poof*. Brand new EVO 3D on the way in 3-5 days. The screens they don't seem to give you a new device but the microphones do. I guess I have to thank the microphone gods for killing mine.
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Btw, had me a little girl last Tuesday!!

Sent from my Sprint/Virgin Mobile hybrid
[HTC EVO 3D] I_Am_Lorde:
Congratulations!
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
They will go from this to this before you can even get them a passy!

Congratulations man!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Congrats!
[HTC EVO 3D] Will32:
Congrats! Your first?
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Sure is!

Sent from my Sprint/Virgin Mobile hybrid
[HTC EVO 3D] ulum_joe:
Congrats bro!!
[HTC EVO 3D] adyingbreed771:
ok, so i get to the part that says for me to pull the battery, so i do, i put the battery back in, it immedietly boots back up to the htc splash, so i pull the batter again really fast, put it back in, and i type 'adb reboot bootloader' and it says "error: device not found"?? i need some help asap!

EDIT:

i now just retyped 'adb reboot bootloader' and it botted into the fastboot usb, typed the 'fastboot erase rfg_5' and it said waiting for device for a bit so i had to pull the usb chord and plug it back in, (my comp does that sometimes) and then it said 'erasing 'rfg_5'... FAILED (remote: not allowed)' ??
[HTC EVO 3D] spirithandler:
Do you realize by doing what your doing and not waiting for a proper fix you risk not being able to activate your phone. In other words you will not receive cell service ie. make phone call's or 3g network!
[HTC EVO 3D] EJerVJerO:
Some people don't like to read they just skip right to the action :)
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
Come on man, everyone reads everything thoroughly, at least 3 times before doing anything!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
God if I didn't know this was a joke, I'd bring the thunder. Lmao. J/k ;)

But this is exactly why I'm taking my time writing this code... I'm *pretty* sure I got a working fix. (not to get hopes up) If anything I definitely have a LOT more knowledge of this partition now.

But I'm not going to just let noobs bork their phones. I learned this from the premature release of the downgrade method, thankfully that method wasn't as dangerous to mess with, and even if you mess it up it's fully recoverable.

This partition is not really meant to be toyed with... so I am putting in as many checks as are needed to make sure EVERYTHING is right before changing anything.

It's taking me a while to write the code, but it will be worth it in the end. Instead of the user doing manual work (fastboot commands, adb commands, etc.) I'm writing it from the ground up, All the user will have to do is plug the phone in and follow directions on screen. I'm including everything needed for the task, fastboot, adb, it does all the adb/fastboot commands, reads all the current information from the device.

One thing I will caution on is to NOT erase RFG_1 and try and flash it from the update. This is your phones NV backup to EVERYTHING. (secret codes, MEID, MSL, etc, etc) If you erase this, and then try to activate... This is the direct cause of most of the issues people are having.

This fix is designed to rebuild rfg_1, if possible, then erase the damaged partition that is plagued with Virgin Mobile.

Believe it or not, the issues that people are having were caused AFTER it was pointed out that it was not (easily) revertible. The "fixes" were what was killing people, not the firmware itself. Much of the "roaming/data dropping" issues are because of the stupid tower updates that sprint is doing.

I, personally, don't blame anyone for the problems of the "fixes" being the direct cause of the issues. People were simply trying to help, and the obvious things are that certain partitions are plagued with Virgin Mobile tags, so you would think that simply flashing the ones that were changed back to the ones from the original would fix this... It's a logical conclusion. So I will ask people not to put blame on those people that released fixes that broke their device. They were only trying to help.

The main problem here is that rfg_1 (and several of the others, including the mysterious dzdata_4g.hdr) are not even flashed during the update (or any update for that matter) I'm not sure why they even release them with the updates...

Anyways I'm getting close to getting a test ready. Hopefully tonight or tomorrow morning I should have a working test. If all goes well... The Ultimate Recovery Tool will be out soon. ;)

Stay tuned!
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
Great Newz Unknownforce.
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
Well now, that's good! Because some things were posted on twitter that make me want my 3D back! lol
[HTC EVO 3D] spirithandler:
You are the Fricking man!

Also with your fix are we going to need Ubuntu or is it going to be Windows based? I ask so I can be ahead of the ball game and download a copy of Ubuntu.
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Nevermind I'm stupid.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Still linux based, but I'm going to work with closeone and have him make an easy bootable cd (or usb flash) to use.

I also suggest against using a gui based linux os (like ubuntu), cause it tends to screw up USB because of Auto Mounting mass amount of drives...

Sometimes less is more. ;)

But Windows at this time isn't much of a possibility because the problem is that there are no drivers for the device. So they have to be written for it to detect the device properly and allow it to read the raw data partitions.
[HTC EVO 3D] MikeC84:
Don't use Ubuntu:confused:, Thats all I use :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Yeah, ubuntu especially has issues with the automounting... It completely kills the usb service on my ubuntu box to where I have to reboot the damn thing to get it back. (there's probably a command to restart the service it and make it work again, but would rather that NOT be a factor in the fix here, especially when messing with something already so volatile.)
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
I often have auto mount issues in ubuntu also.

Sent from my EVO 3D Sprint/Virgin Mobile Hybrid.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hello there everyone. ;) Yup. As Unknownforce said, I'll have something for you guys (Live, bootable). No Linux install required. :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
Have you all tried Puppy Linux? I use it on older machines...
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
I've been using a special cd that closeone (Thanks!) made for a previous test, it works perfectly, I just dump my files on to the flash drive and cd /mnt/sdb1 and work out of there. it works for my testing purpose.

It's TinyCore I believe. It boots in seconds, which makes it easy to test things on.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I personally have, and do on many occasions. It's a great, full-featured, low-footprint operating system. I carry around a copy on a flash drive, along with a number of other useful distros.

I didn't realize that you were still using the test CD. :)

Yes, for the purpose of something like this, I use MicroCore/TinyCore as a base, and start throwing in what needs to be included (including my own personally coded scripts) for the specific task (there's a little more to it than that, but that's the jist). It has just enough to run as a base OS, that I don't have to spend time stripping things out, where I can focus on putting things in. It's light enough (Memory, CPU Requirements) that it can be run on incredibly old machines with ease. I forgo using a full desktop environment because it's overkill for what the CD is used for (some people probably remember my old builds, before I made the move to TinyCore), and some people have had trouble actually loading up Xorg/Xvesa. I am now aiming for high compatibility without forgetting the user-friendliness aspect of it. ;)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] jaybombz:
Awesome news, Unknownforce! Thank you for all your work on this!
[HTC EVO 3D] Punk9:
Quick question. With all the "fixes" around. Are we going to need to flash the original VM firmware, then use your tool? For instance, I did the fix in the OP, will that screw with anything in your recovery tool? And if someone did the nocturnal fix, will that mess with your tool or what?

Thanks so much btw, appropriated the time/effort you're putting into it. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] greeg32:
I have to say, aside from having benefited from the fruits of your labor with the hboot downgrade, and hopefully aside from utilizing what you come up with in this vm firmware fiasco, I really enjoy reading both of you talk about your work, thought processes, and progress. Truly awe inspiring. Thanks so much to closeone and unknown for all of your work and subsequent support.
[HTC EVO 3D] majid25:
This is great news, and I want to say thank you to unknownforce for putting so much time into this. Truly this is amazing, we really need more people like you man..

I have one question, a long time ago I flashed chads semi-fix which changed from 1.53_144 to 1.53_145. Would people who did this have to do some extra steps or will the fix work right out of the box regardless of what changes people did to their phone?
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Not trying to speak for unknown, but i imagine the process will overwrite any "fixes" that have been done.

Sent from my EVO 3D Sprint/Virgin Mobile Hybrid.
[HTC EVO 3D] ulum_joe:
Woaahh, its a great news... Hope it will coming out soon... Thans for unknownforce...
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Thanks greeg32. I want to say that 99.9% of this is Unknownforce. I'm just doing what I can to help ease some stress, at least by lending a hand whenever possible. I do appreciate your kind words. :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] twcrosno:
Hey everyone, I am just playing around and trying a firmware update since Sprint has been releasing ICS to others. Well, I tried a firmware update and usually I get the message that there are no updates and now I get a message "The firmware update could not be completed. Blah, blah, blah error code:1012". Just throwing it out there since I have not heard of any USA CDMA phone getting the update yet. Is anyone else getting this message?

Edit: It is actually happening on any update I try under System updates. Maybe I am just having issues.

Edit 2: Pulled battery and back to "no firmware updates" Sorry for the useless post!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
This ^ is correct. Once I have it working properly that is... Programming issues are holding me back at this point, but I'm trying to make it as seamless as possible here. Instead of anyone having to do fastboot commands and adb commands manually, I've put all of that into the fix itself... Also RL keeps trying to interfere as well. My car is having issues and it's jeopardizing my commute to work now... so I have to get that squared away as well, my life is anything but dull. Lol...

You sell yourself short... the CD has helped me immensely, without it I'd probably still be testing on my Ubuntu box, crashing every other time... ugh... This small boot cd is amazing and is exactly what I needed for testing.
[HTC EVO 3D] Felnarion:
Unknown, is your fix going to require that we still have active service on our Evo 3d? I'm intending to get an S3 as soon as it comes out, and I'm just wondering if I am going to have problems getting rid of this Virgin Mobile branding with your fix (So I can sell the thing) if I activate the S3 first.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
It will reset the phone to a non-activated state, so it will constantly try to hands free, every boot, but no direct part of the fix requires activation.

So it shouldn't affect it. And on a positive note, the fix will help you sell it, because it will reset all the stats to 0's and set recondition status to No :) (If all goes well ;) )
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
Damn it, I maxed out my thanks! lol. That S-OFF stuff used all of them up! (on the evo 4g lte)
[HTC EVO 3D] rtbluver:
If you need someone to test let me know!
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
This video talks about you Unknownforce! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckEKYdxoajc
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Cool! Thanks ;)

Just to keep everyone updated, RL is a pain in the ass, like always... but the tool is coming along very nicely. I'm still working out all the bugs, which there are several major issues at this point, specifically with reading some of the appropriate current info from the phone, but it appears to only be coding issues at this point I think... after I get them ironed out... it's testing testing testing. I'll have closeone put a nice bootable cd/usb drive together for testers and we will have vengeance! (Hopefully!) Haha.
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Happy to test here.

Sent from my EVO 3D Sprint/Virgin Mobile Hybrid.
[HTC EVO 3D] jaybombz:
Happy to test also, have access to a backup phone if things go totally awry.
[HTC EVO 3D] linty:
I saved my 19 part before flashing the Vm firmware. How would I restore that?
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
You bet. ;) Vengeance! NOW WHO'S WITH ME? (cheesy motivational speech) :laugh:

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] MikeC84:
Should be vengeance on Freeza for starting this whole dabacle lol :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
The tool that will be released will allow for "custom" partition flashing as well. Specify the image, the partition number, and it will flash any image to any partition, so long as it will transfer within the 5-7 second time window that emmc mode is available.

This will not only be useful for this function, but for using on other devices as well ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hey. Hey... That was no fault of freeza. Yes, he made the firmware into a flashable zip. His intent was not to be malicious. He was trying to help. It wasn't known at that specific time that there were possible issues with flashing it. I'm sorry, I'll stop before my comment gets too out of line. Please don't make me go into more detail. I toned down this comment quite a bit before I hit the post button.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Will32:
I agree with you closeone, but its easy for people too look for someone to blame when they don't want to take the blame for themself.

Please don't get upset with me mike, I know you blame yourself just as we all do. It does feel like freeza kinda left us in the dust here though.

Edit... I'll also say that I know freeza doesn't owe me anything and I hope that last statement doesn't come across wrong.

Were are all so lucky that unknownforce is hanging in here to pick up all the pieces even though his phone is already fixed. BIG thanks to unknown, and to you closeone, you don't get enough credit.
[HTC EVO 3D] spirithandler:
Let's point the finger at someone else because you jumped into the pool before looking then found out the pool is empty.

The only person you can blame or point your finger at is yourself/ourselves

Nobody put a gun to your head and made you flash nor did you wait until reports came back on this said firmware.

It's a hard lesson learned just be thankful we have Unknownforce and Closeone here to help with OUR Stupidity!
[HTC EVO 3D] Will32:
How could anyone resist jumping into a pool full of virgins?
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
Loooool
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Dudes im sure Mike c was joking hence the smiley no need for you all to get upset. All of us who did this agreed it is was our fault alone not freezas.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
My point wasn't to flame Mike. I was trying to make him aware of this little thing. I was a little harsh, and feel quite bad about it now. I would like to apologize for my words.

While I don't believe that there's a problem with stating an opposing viewpoint, it should not be done in a way that degrades others. wikd posted a simple "I agree [(and here's why)]." It didn't sound like something that was intended to hurt another person, be it Mike or freeza. That's fine and respectable. He stated his opinion in a civilized manner. But if one takes it further than that, it turns into flaming and trolling.

I would ask you kindly to stop this now. I will not continue to post in a thread that has become grounds for spewing insults at each other.

This sort of talk hurts others, brings down threads, and ultimately accomplishes nothing at all.

Again, I am sorry.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] buddywiser:
Okay everyone, stare at these boobies for a few minutes, then get bacjk on subject,

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/shakeit.gif?w=350&h=263
[HTC EVO 3D] spirithandler:
I agree. and I apologize for kinda derailing the thread That was not my intention. I frequent this thread for update's and I am usually grumbling to myself about off topic talk in here and yet I inadvertently derail the thread.

With that being said How is the progress coming along? How close is it to being released to beta tester's?
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
HAHA, way to save the day :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
spirithandler, don't worry about it. I was just trying to make sure that we all remembered that we are all talking to other living, breathing, human beings somewhere else. ;) Some thread derailment is bound to happen. Let's move forward, and put this behind us. In regards to progress, Unknownforce posted his progress not all too long ago. Ball's not quite in my court yet. Sorry I can't give you something a bit more accurate.

I was waiting for jlechner on that one. ;) Day = Saved.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] JoshuaAlba:
Thanks unknown for taking the time to do this. I'll be glad to be a tester. In the beginning when I flashed the VM firmware, I never really had problems except the banner. But for the past couple of weeks, it's starting to screw up my phone so bad I might get the SGS3 next weekend. Pretty much most of the time I can't make a phone call (which is the most important feature of a cellphone for those who forgot) late at night or when I get out the subway. Even if I can, the microphone doesn't work most of the time. If I have an emergency I'm screwed--and I live in BUSHWICK. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
CO, any issues with the LTE? I've was considering getting one, but with the warping and data issues some users are having, I think I'm going to GSIII.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I love mine. I'm not sure, frankly, why there have been so many complaints. I've heard complaints about just about everything on this phone, and it makes no sense to me why so many people are claiming that they're having issues. I would tend to believe that most of the issues that you'd find will be fixed with software updates. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by warping, but I haven't noticed anything strange. Only things that I can think of are that the phone can get a little warm if you're doing a lot on it (but it hasn't been bad, and my second issue with it addresses that concern), and Sense 4 is actually quite a bit more bloated than you would think. Using a lighter ROM has helped to free up memory and keep the processor from getting quite as warm.

Honestly, I can't say anything about the SGSIII. I know that it has a more "plastic" feel to it. The EVO 4G LTE is metal almost everywhere except where the antenna is, which makes sense. It's very solidly built, and quite a bit lighter than previous EVO models.

I'd still give a thumbs up on the EVO 4G LTE.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
In the general of the lte, someone started a thread about the warping. I've seen some amazing battery stats on the gs3, which has always been my main complaint of the evos. as for the plastic, it'll be in a case anyways lol. Now i just have to wait till employee lines can purchase it :)

Sent from my EVO 3D Sprint/Virgin Mobile Hybrid.
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
Same here! Advantage Club FTW!
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
If you're talking about some kind of case warping, I've never seen that before. It sounds like they got a defective unit. That of course will happen to some.

Battery for the EVO 4G LTE has been very nice for me. With moderate use, I've gotten probably 20-24 hours (2 hours of screen on time for email, web surfing, etc.), and with more heavy use, I've gotten about 10-12 hours (Screen on (almost full brightness -- bright sunlight) for probably 5 hours or so. Heavy web browsing, downloading a few apps from the app store, Flipboard on the road (that alone will drain the battery faster, kept switching cell towers. that's why I put that under heavy use). If I hadn't been moving so much, I know I would have gotten much better battery life. Those stats don't sound all that impressive, but keep in mind that when traveling quite a few miles, and that was the major factor here (I did have roaming off though). It's been quite nice otherwise. I can easily play some more resource-demanding games, and still have plenty of battery life to spare. Battery is much better on this model than previous ones from my experience. I did have the original EVO 4G as well.

Screen is also quite a bit nicer than previous models. I can't speak for the SGSIII, but I have heard that the screen, as well as the camera aren't as nice (But I can't confirm this personally, so take that with a grain of salt).

Honestly, you probably wouldn't regret buying either, but I've only had experience with the EVO 4G LTE, so I'm not a great judge on the SGSIII.

Hope this helps you a bit,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Jamesredmond82:
Looks like I'll end up paying full price for THE DARN EVO LTE
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
No upgrade discount?

Sent from my EVO 3D Sprint/Virgin Mobile Hybrid.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jamesredmond82:
Nope! I've seen some on craigslist for like 400
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
That's pretty cheap for so soon.

My sister is the employee, and she said right after launch the sales plummeted.

Sent from my EVO 3D Sprint/Virgin Mobile Hybrid.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jamesredmond82:
Wow