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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] curl2k1:
ah, that explains why I couldn't manage to get mine to look like yours lol

Oh and on your Call Any,* task, I think i was able to replicate the top half, but I'm unsure of whats in the second part (the one with the red arrow pointing left). Would you mind capping a screenie of the details?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Texting (either via Google Voice or natively on the device) shouldn't have any impact whatsoever as the $30/mo plan includes unlimited texting.

As for minutes usage, keep in mind that Google Voice calls (incoming and outgoing) still use up your minutes unless you are using a VoIP solution. Also remember that portions of minutes used (for instance, 2:01) will round up to the next whole minute (3 minutes).

If you still don't think you've used 40 minutes, use a security app (like Avast, Lookout, etc) to scan for apps with permission to place calls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Peter_the_Gr8:
I never knew that. When I analyzed my Verizon bills it showed almost no minutes usage. I'll definitely implement the VoiP.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
On postpaid with Verizon, you probably had the benefit of free nights and weekends, free mobile-to-mobile, free "faves" or whatever the crap VZW might call it, free incoming calls, etc. Prepaid enjoys none of those benefits - though we also only spend a fraction of what a postpaid contract would cost ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] okyere:
I also have a voip setup to complement the 30/month plan (100 minutes + 5 gb data) from T-mobile. I forward the google voice calls to IP Comms (free US number). In IP Comms configuration, you can forward a call to a sip number. This is when sipsorcery comes in. You can set up a sip account and configure a google voice dial plan to dial directly. The app I use for the sip dailing is csipsimple. In my experience, it is the best sip/voip application on android. Lots of customization. Lots of settings to make sure things work right if you take time to go through them. As a substitute for IP Comms you can also use Sipgate. I have tried groveip and talkatone but I don't like that fact that they hijack my google talk.

With this setup, I hardly use the 100 minutes from t-mobile. With a good data connection, calls are clear like on mobile network. At home or office in wifi area, it is even better. I can also use the google chat plug in for calls in the browser. Data connection is the future. It will put the carriers out of business.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor79:
So I'm approaching the end of my first month. 3 days left

Current status:

1 minute left (been there about a week, since the last time someone called for "Benny")

2.4GB used

Minutes usage has definitely been helped by using VOIP. Most of my calls are either at work or at home. At home my connection is great of course so calls have superb quality. At work, it all depends on current usage by my coworkers. Around lunchtime is the worst time, and basically turns into a no-call zone. Morning or later afternoon is fine. Not the greatest quality, but usually passable.

My minutes usage has definitely been hurt by the damn calls coming in from my T-Mobile number. No I haven't given the number to anyone...it's the damn people the number's previous owner ("Benny") hasn't bothered to tell he got a different number. They've used up probably 1/4 of my minutes this month. Fortunately I think it's getting less frequent...I've made it pretty clear to everyone that calls that their friend or brother or whoever got a different number. I'm willing to wait it out to keep the number...getting another random number would probably result in the same thing happening. By waiting it out hopefully I'll get to a point where their calls are very infrequent or non-existent. I also get texts from people too...with sometimes amusing out of context comments...but of course texting is unlimited...so they don't matter.

As for my data...I haven't bothered to restrict my usage at all. I tether pretty regularly on the train home. Netflix works pretty well on the train ride home, though most of the time I'm playing stuff off my USB drive (via OTG cable and Stickmount).

Last Friday I finally paid off my ETF...so I'm completely free of Sprint. Very happy I made the move.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
I feel like this whole plan of attack (VoIP/prepaid) should have its own section for the all the varieties of questions. I want to raise the question of comparison between the different VoIP apps vs stock.

I originally was using sipdroid but was missing out on the integration with the stock dialer- knowing who called when and when I called people is nice. Thus I transitioned to the stock dialer as a previous person said and its okay. I have the integration but it seems to echo for others who call me and doesnt always catch incoming calls it seems when on wifi. Thus it doesnt seem reliable.

I am looking at returning to sipdroid but am wondering if anyone has had echo or reliable issues with the stock voip solution?

also has anyone used this "csipsimple" app? wondering if it will work with pbxes.org acct; it seems to have good reviews..

Thx
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jpmanchester:
call quality and incoming call problems

I'm looking for a little help. I've tried talkatone and grooveip and both are terrible even on my tmobile 4g. Even a second or two delay and we're constantly talking over each other trying to ask if the other is still there lol. Anyone found a good solution that works very well on 3g/4g?

EDIT: forget the second half of my original post below. i'm an idiot lol. airplane mode takes care of that.

And secondly, as a result, I've been having to use regular minutes when away from wifi. But do you nkow if there's a way to setup GV forwarding so that somehow it will forward to the phone number if not connected via voip (which is only connected on wifi)? It seems if you have forwarding to number on and forward to google talk then I get two calls at the same time when I'm connected to wifi and voip is on. One through grooveip and one through my actual carrier. Not sure if that makes sense how I'm explaining it, but some way to automate the forwarding to phone# when off wifi and google talk when on wifi would be ideal if I can't find a better voip 3/4g solution.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Aside from Airplane Mode, take a look at the Groove Forwarder app. It was mentioned yesterday and I've been testing it a bit. It is the most reliable method for automatically toggling the GV forwarding settings that I have encountered. So if the Tasker thing is a bit much I highly recommend that app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] illwafer:
in google voice, you will set it up for forward to both gchat and your phone number.

when you are home you disable your radio.

when you are away you disable wifi.

or get an app to assist.

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can you please go into more detail on what product/plans you get from ip comms and sipsorcery? thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JCreazy:
If I were to buy a tmobile sim card now, could I wait until February to activate it or does the card expire?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hotobu:
Ok then I'm confused. Why would employ the use of a 3rd party to make use of my carrier minutes, and not just use the carrier minutes? I don't get the benefits of a "call forwarding service"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NJD_HD2:
This is the plan I have! It's really good! Now only if the HD2 supported 4G... but unlimited 3G us still fine!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Has anyone tried line2 not free but works great.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
The advantage is you have one number so if you switch carriers or phones you dont have to bother keeping all your contacts up to speed on what the new number is. You can also can text for free so many people like that feature, also you can text from the computer which is rather convenient. Other advantages include a voicemail transcription, and all around more than one access point to your calls, texts and voicemails (computer plus any phone you setup it up with rather than just your carrier phone).

Also of course you can use it to setup VoIP over wifi with a little extra work which is the point of this awesome thread. That way you get free minutes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] c0LdFire:
That'd be fine, the expiration date on mine was in like 2015 or 2016.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Sorry, I address the second part of your post earlier and completely disregarded the first.

It's going to be very difficult to find a VoIP solution that works well 100% of the time over the unpredictable carrier networks. Talkatone and GrooveIP both work well enough over Wifi; I personally don't think it's worth the headache to try to VoIP over mobile data.

That said, one of the more traditional SIP routes may work for you. I'd give SipDroid + PBXes.org a try (though you may have some initial configuration troubles). If you use the speex codec it should be manageable over most mobile data connections.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hotobu:
Ok thanks, now I understand. I thought the other guy was saying I couldn't use it for VOIP, but I misunderstood. I may get into this when the next Nexus comes out. The only thing I'm worried about is the apparent lack of roaming. I hardly ever talk on the phone so that isn't a big deal, but I still want my data when and where I want it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
To (attempt to) clarify: Google Voice is not a VoIP solution, but it can be used effectively in conjunction with a VoIP solution.

As for roaming.. can't really help you there. All I can recommend is that you check the coverage maps of the various prepaid providers in your area. You may want to consider an AT&T-based plan with Straight Talk for better coverage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
your patience is admirable. You have only explained that 100x. Maybe someday people will read the op in its entirety. (Myself included haha)

sent from my rocking HTC G2 loaded with ICS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] airunder:
Getting a google talk message during a call kills audio

This guide is really helpful! I have followed it closely, but I am having a random problem and wondering if anyone else is having the same problem. I read through most of the thread and searched and didn't find anything.

I am using google voice with PBXes.org/Sipdroid and the calls have been working great over wifi, but when I get a google talk message during a longer call I can no longer hear the person that I am talking to and they can't hear me, but the call is still connected. I am usually logged in to the google talk app on my phone, which could be causing the problem.

When i go to troubleshoot, i cant recreate the problem. I think it might have something to do with google talk going in to an away message mode then reactivating during the call? I have no idea, just wondering if anyone had any issue with this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I really don't mind explainifying things when it's needed. I'd much rather make sure that folks have the information they need to make informed decisions. It's all about contributing to the community and whatnot.

Hmm. That's a new one to me. Very interesting. Unfortunately I don't think I can help - anyone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haley_joel_osteen:
I was consistently not receiving calls using Sipdroid, gave CSipSimple a try yesterday (still using PBXes) and it works great. Every single call rings through, and voice quality over WiFi is much, much better than GrooveIP. I have no idea why Sipdroid just would not receive calls when my phone had been asleep for a few minutes (with every conceivable wifi tweak), but the phone can sleep for hours and still receive calls using CSipSimple. Go figure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Good to hear, I might give it a whirl being that the stock dialer gives the caller echo for some reason.. Hows the integration with the stock dialer? (to track calls, etc)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrman:
Could you describe how you got CSipSimple up and running? I also experienced difficulty with calls not ringing through on Sipdroid. When I try to set up CSipSimple, the wizard times out with a bad gateway error after I enter my username and password. In reading the results of a Google search on the subject, this seems to be a fairly common problem. Thanks in advance.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haley_joel_osteen:
Well - I may have spoken too soon. I'm definitely getting better results with CSipSimple, but I'm still having it lose its registration when the phone is in "deep sleep" for 30-45 minutes (whereas with SipDroid it seemed to lose it after 5-10 minutes even though the dot remained green). With CSip, if it's registered, the calls ring through 100% of the time. With SipDroid, green dot meant nothing, Might ring, might not. At least with CSip I know if it's "working" or not by glancing at the phone.

To answer your question, I followed the instructions here (scroll down):

http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...id-free-voip-via-google-voice.html#post151592

But all you have to do is follow codesplice's guide to set up SipDroid & PBXes, then disable SipDroid, install CSipSimple and use your username/pw from the Trunk/Gtalk page on PBXes.

So my problem appears to be 100% Jelly Bean related, mainly affecting people who upgraded over-the-air from ICS to JB (from what I've read). So far I have tried:

-Installing WiFi High performance widget. Seems to help for a bit.

-Trinity kernel with TKT setting "WiFI PM better for Streaming"

-Checking the options in CSipSimple for "Lock WiFi" and "High perfs lock"

-Setting JB stock WiFi settings to never turn off WiFi when sleeping

-Static IP, WPA, WPA2, no security

-STUN servers

And so on, and so on.

No matter what, at some point after the screen has been off for a while, I quit receiving calls. Happens at home and at work, completely different types of routers. Very, very frustrating.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrman:
Thanks, that's pretty much what I tried. I think I'll delete my pbx account and start again. Just in case I messed something up.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aashishtheaasik:
I can make calls (outgoing) from Native Dialer, but cannot receive calls although I have "receive calls" option checked. I tried in two different phones: Galaxy Nexus (JB 4.1 ) and Galaxy S Vibrent (ICS 4.0.4) I can receive call in SipDroid though, if I keep it installed. Any help will be appreciated.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Same here. Well I could receive calls at one point but over the last few days I can answer the call but they can't hear me and I can't hear them. I also have the same issue when I call them back, no audio and it also a lot of times it disconnects or time outs after a few seconds.

I'm thinking as body as the stock dialer is I might try c simple or sipdroid again.

sent from my rocking HTC G2 loaded with ICS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phositadc:
Just wanted to post the speeds I'm getting on the $30 plan here in the DC area. This is comparable with at&t lte and absolutely KILLS at&t HSPA+.

-Sent from my HTC One S.-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lythandra:
Is CallingMart.com down for anyone else?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Hot damn!

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/callingmart.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] karnovaran:
Right there with ya. Internet fist-bump. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aashishtheaasik:
Can you receive call? I cannot receive them at all. My phone does not ring at all when I set up internet call in stock dialer and sign out from SipDroid. But the setting still shows " Primary account. receiving Calls". Tried doing everything, but no luck, could not find way out to receive call on it.

UPDATE:

Now even with SipDroid signed in, the calls are so irregular. I tried many many times. I receive about 20%-30% of total dialed calls and about 40%-50% of outgoing calls really rings in destination (although it shows no error). Could not figure out anything. GrooveIp seem to have better receiving (but not audio quality).. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] badpanda:
I cant make calls with Sipdroid anymore.. all it says is "dialing" and then nothing, no error messages or anything. It started yesterday. did all the basic trouble shooting but nothing.

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Having same problem also..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Yes I can receive calls and answer them. Although when I do answer the line is silent. I cant hear them and they cant hear me. I used that csimple app last night and the same thing happened (both on receiving and calling end). I am thinking it might be a pbxes.org server issue? Maybe they were down or my settings are messed up. I am going to hard core trouble shoot today and maybe even return to sipdroid. It dont like sipdroids lack of integration but its even more frustrating to not be able to make or take calls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] badpanda:
Thank you so much... *on the ipkall.com sign up page it ask me for a "Hostname or IP address" what should I put there??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bjgregu:
I'm having this same issue
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrman:
I managed to get csipsimple going by deleting my PBX account and starting from square one. It turned out the mistake I was making was improperly entering my username into csipsimple by leaving off the extension (-200). Once I had corrected that error, everything worked perfectly. All calls have been ringing through as well. I'm using the latest eos build and trinity kernel. Csipsimple is set to not use stun and the wifi keep alive interval is at the default 80 seconds.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
Log into pbxes.org and change the trunk password to your Google voice password if u haven't already
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] badpanda:
So I decide to try the $70 a month unlimited call text and 5GB data.. Compared to a similar at&t plan for $120 a month plus taxes.. the $70 its not bad at all.

The best part was that I was able to port in my number and the use my business gvoice number linked to my real personal number! So I got two numbers in one! Both virtually unlimited.. very happy about that. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] badpanda:
Come on people don't let this die...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] heroisnotdead:
Is there anyone in the Carlisle area with the Tmo monthly $30 4G plan?

I'm curious what speeds you're getting. Apparently, most if not all of Carlisle doesn't have 3g, that seems silly.

Confirmation anyone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sborman:
Use data connection all the time instead of auto-switching?

Can anyone tell me the following? Is it feasible to simplify the setup suggested here by porting my number into Google Voice (so all my calls and texts route through Google Voice) and then just always using a wifi or data connection with Google Voice to make all my calls and send all my text messages -- instead of setting up auto-switching between the mobile phone company's network and wifi? In other words, what is the rationale for setting up auto-switching instead of just using the unlimited-web part of the T-Mobile monthly plan all the time? Thanks. -- Stu
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] c0LdFire:
Do you really use more then 500 minutes while on the go and not able to use VOIP? Personally, even with business going through the same phone I peak around 200-250 minutes, so I just prepay $40-45 on the $30 plan. The $70 plan seems like it's really only for a select few.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Well the VOIP experience is far superior on WiFi, so that's why people here are putting so much emphasis on the switching to WiFi whenever possible. Remember, Google Voice natively does not make VOIP calls, it uses voice minutes. So you're relying on 3rd party solutions to make it call over data, and in that case if you want the fewest issues you need to be on WiFi.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] muyoso:
The reason that people automate the switch from VOIP calling on wifi to Tmobile calling when not on wifi is frankly because using VOIP calling over Tmobile's data network is iffy at best. Sure it "works", but that is if you are standing still outside in a very good signal area, and even then its not good. Hell, even over wifi its far from perfect. Also a majority of the time you are probably within wifi range anyway, at work or at home, so that should be able to handle a lot of your calling allowing you to use the 100 Tmobile minutes for whenever you are away from home/work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
What they said, really. A few major points to keep in mind:

Google Voice does not mean free calls, nor does it mean VoIP. Google Voice is simply a call forwarding service which uses minutes on whatever service is used to actually carry the call.

VoIP is not 100% reliable even over Wifi, and it can be significantly worse over mobile data. I don't think it's reasonable to rely 100% upon a VoIP solution on a mobile device. There are just too many variables.

If you do use a VoIP solution but don't implement some way of making sure only one "phone" rings at a time (either by managing the forwarding phones settings on voice.google.com or by toggling the cellular/wifi radios), any incoming call will appear twice - once for VoIP, and once for your cellular network. That can be quite annoying and make it difficult to answer on the intended line.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ttabbal:
One thing I've found to work well. I'm using voip.ms for voip, not Google voice hacks. Voip.ms has the ability to do fail-over on inbound calls. So I set it to try my sub-account first (csipsimple), if that doesn't work, it forwards to the carrier number. So on inbound, sip always gets tried first, then the phone app. If I decline the call over sip, the carrier number rings almost instantly.

The catch, you pay 2x for the call, the inbound DID and the forwarded call. But since that amounts to 2 cents/min, I'm ok with that... For outbound, 1 cent/min and they let me send my gv number in the caller id.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
That is pretty slick! Thanks for sharing the info
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HemRoyd:
Not totally sure of your setup but I think with voip.ms you can set up a "virtual DID" to use for incoming calls and it only bills out at .001/min. That may shave down your costs a bit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] VaMaxx:
Hi Codesplice,

First of all - really great thread. When you wrote about the Wifi/Airplane mode via TaskEdit, are you saying that it is able to have all incoming calls forwarded to the VOIP service once Wifi service is detected? T-Mobile has decent reception everywhere in town except my home. So I am trying to see if I can somehow get around the poor reception at home using the Wifi trick you mentioned.

You probably covered the concept in your thread in that section. So please excuse my noobish question.

Thanks!

VA Maxx
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ttabbal:
Worth a look. It's always nice to save a bit. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] herzzreh:
I use VoIP.ms for my home line... I'd consider them, but SMS is an issue...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
If you want to go the Tasker Wifi/Airplane mode route, you should set the forwarding phone preferences on voice.google.com to forward to both your cellular number (for when you're out and about) and your VoIP service (for when you're connected to wifi). You then use the suggested Tasker profile to automatically enable Airplane Mode when you're connected to Wifi. This prevents you from receiving incoming calls via the cellular number and forces calls to be handled only by the VoIP service. Similarly, set the VoIP client to only function when on Wifi; now when you're away from Wifi calls will be handled by your actual cellular number. The main benefit of using such a toggle is that it prevents receiving duplicated incoming calls (one via VoIP and one via your cellular service).

So yes, this should allow you to get around the poor reception at your home.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ttabbal:
I use the Google voice app for sms. Gv forwards to a voip.ms DID for calls.