yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jehosaphat:
How hot is too hot?

According to the Acer A510 Users Manual on page 63 this is what they say about Heat:

Heat

The tablet heats up

when charging or

operating for a long

period.

It is normal for the device to heat up

when charging. When charging is

complete, it will return to its normal

temperature.

It is also normal for the tablet to heat up

during long periods of use, such as

watching a video or playing a game.

All Acer tablets are factory-tested before

release.

Here is the link for the manual:

manualcentre.blogspot.com/2012/04/acer-iconia-tab-a510-manual-user-guide.html[/url]

No indication if they think there is such a state as too hot.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] plznote:
I used my brothers Transformer Prime for a few hours and it just got a bit warm. Nowhere near hot.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] David Dee:
Interesting find. Based on above it seems they are aware of the heat issue and they believe the heat levels are tolerable. Having returned the A510 for this issue, I can definitively state the heat is quite uncomfortable on one's hand, it is really hot. I have used many other Android and Apple tablets and have never felt heat like this on the back during gaming.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
Agreed the A510 gets warmer then others, but at least the heat is getting out and not building up ;)

That its my spin for the day.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] David Dee:
I just found this French online store with scheduled shipping of the A700 for May 22: http://www.btobinformatec.fr/tab-a700-tegra-3-1g-32g-10-1-and-4-0.html?BPCID=18&BPPID=BZ30386576
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] David Dee:
Acer Iconia Tab A700 hits FCC approval

Hopefully a North American release date is imminent: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/17/acer-iconia-tab-a700-fcc/ :D
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] himmatsj:
With so many people commenting regarding the heat issues of the Acer A510, wasn't it thought that by disabling the virusscan (McAfee) app from running in the backgraound, the heat would be considerably lower?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
That helps the battery and performance, but the heat spikes seem more gpu and wifi combo related. Acer should have designed the heat dissipation to be more spread out like the Asus and Toshiba tablets.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] himmatsj:
Is it very terrible that you may want to change and get another device?

*Referring to the heat.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] David Dee:
That did nothing for my heat problems when I had the a510.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
If you use a case, you do not notice it (using my former Thrive case, ATM)

The back is always warmer on the right. Just like the iPad 3

If just browsing it is barely warm and then video or Flash is in the low 90's

If using wifi and playing a 3d game, the right ranges from 105 to 110.

The positive is the heat is dissipating, but at the expense of the right hand holding the warmth.

Acer knew about the issue, since even mention it in the manual. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing.....
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
Site switched to 6/20, definitely just stabbing in the dark over there. Bleh
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] David Dee:
Seeing this whole process unfold has been a learning experience on how retailers have no scruples when it comes to publishing unsubstantiated release dates. Looks like we will just have to sit tight and wait for Acer's official announcement.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
I remember the good old days when products would get shown and a release date announced at the same time. Now its hey look at this sexy device, we'll get back to you when we feel like it. Aaand it will prolly only be 90% functional when we release it, you'll get the last 10% over the next 6 months. O, and theres a 75% chance theres something dreadfully wrong with it, but we'll fix it on next years model.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ninjaw:
I own the beast. In france lots receveid it on friday (9june2012) for €440.

Very nice, i played it 4 hours : you cannot install any gameloft or EA games (except Hot Pursuit), that's stupid because there is Real Racing 2 & Monopoly. I thing the right side is easily hot, same issue than 510 probably. Strange Thing, my best HDD are refused, they were ok on A500, but Angry Birds Space HD is accepted where it never was on A500.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] alx5962:
Just bought mine 15 mn ago, it's charging for now then I need to find how to root this beauty :)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] David Dee:
North America Launch @ $450!

I can't believe they are pricing this equal to the A510 in North America! Here is the link: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/acer-iconia-tab-a700-1920-x-1200-display-and-tegra-3/
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] deviouskater:
Feeling buyers remorse with my a510 I bought 2 months ago. If the price was higher I would not be feeling this way. I was expecting it to be 550 or higher. Hows does everybody else who bought the a510 feel. Now we have to see if performance takes a hit because of the higher resolution
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] aamir123:
I feel the same way but the also lose 2 hour battery life. I wonder if the a510 will deep in price or get discontinued. If discontinue them we might be able to upgrade free
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] azoller1:
What is the difference from 10k32u version and 10s32u version
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
One is black (10k32u) while the other is Silver color.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
Here is world's first unboxing video of A700 (audio is in German).

[YOUTUBE]JBkMGKvkImA[/YOUTUBE]
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] moom999:
Did you tried using the a500 rooting method to root it?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] lqbweb:
We have seen many videos out there of the new Acer Iconia a700... Theoretically it was going to be something more different than just the screen resolution in comparison to the A510.

But researching a little bit on the latest videos on youtube, seems that the case is exactly the same as the A510, no flashlight for the camera, no rough backcase, and I guess that as hot as the A510.

Anyone has any more information about? Even in the description of amazon.de says that it got flashlight...

I am feeling like if they are playing with us.... like if we do not have any other choice (do we?)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
I have the same concern as well. I ordered A510 couple days ago (expected delivery today) and yesterday I pre-ordered A700 as well but looking at the specs, it does not seem like there is any difference between the two models with the exception of resolution.

Seems like Acer just wanted to be the first one with high res screen and because of that they did not make any updates to the A510 and just slapped in a new screen and sent it out.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] alx5962:
I tried several rooting methods for A500 and A510 (blackthunder, mempodroid methods) but nothing positive for now :(

I may have missed some so just point me to them and I'll give a try.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ninjaw:
Same thing here, tablet doesn't react to adb orders : it doesn't autoreboot

ps: no there is no flashlight
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] alx5962:
no autoreboot because the steps before to root the device fail.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] naira1:
I have both tablets here right now. A700 in black and A510 in silver. Its exact the same except for the resolution. The A700 is super sharp and nice to the eyes. It doesn't get too warm though (some people tend to exaggerate).

Performance wise, there's hardly a difference except for the battery which is about 1-2 hrs more depending on usage.

There's also the issue of lag on both especially while using the stock browser but the lag is more evident in chrome.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ninjaw:
It's a lot warmer than A500, and i never heard anything about lag.

do you think cases are compatible ?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] naira1:
Never had A500 so I don't know how warm it gets. The cases for the A510 and A700 should be compatible since it's basically the same tablet.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] wapcamer:
Hi all,

I'm having the A700 for a week.

I experienced lags and game crashes but after I disabled Acer Ring, everything is smooth.

It gets warmer with 3D games, but I clearly wont be able to fry an egg with it.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] elwo0d:
This is exactly what I did. Have just the same experience. The ICS Browser+ runs very smooth.

Hopefully there will be an update soon.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] chemcup:
The cpu 1.3 or 1.4 ghz
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bbqtho:
Normally should be 1.3GHz, but my elixir widget sometimes says 1.4GHz...
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] moom999:
SystemTuner 1.4GHz
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] alx5962:
1.3Ghz in the Android settings
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] naira1:
I guess the reason for the lag might be the 5th processor. If only there's an option to turn it off.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jake21:
Not sure if this is the right place for questions; but I have a couple:

Any clue how this compares to the asus infiity - specifically is the screen high quality (bright and vibrant with good viewing angles?)

How is battery life for video watching (acer claims 10 to 13 hours so if itis anywhere near that it would be quite good).

-

I have an asus eee pad and seen the older acer; I never though the display ont he asus was great (colours are a bit muted and it completely washes out outdoors); is the a700 better ?

-

Very tempting to preorder; though feedback on the display quality would be helpful.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] naira1:
The display is very sharp. Very good to the eyes if you're reading alot (smaller letters can be seen without really zooming) or watching films. But you get about 8-9 hrs of battery (though have never

watch a film for more than 1hrs so I can't comment on that) of normal used.

I don't think anybody can tell you how the display quality of the infinity is since its not out yet. But I can say the display quality would be the same, just maybe cooler or warmer just like the TF300 & A510
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jake21:
Yea; there was a preview/review on the infinity earlier this week that went into details about the display (it was very bright and visible outside; I think 600 or 800 n). Does this display ahve the thin wires that were visible in last years model? Hum. I wish a local shop would carry these).
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
I started having the hot right as well. Mainly that and the visible lines on the display design equaled a return for me. Loved the file drivers and battery life.

Not seeing how this device will not get even hotter on the right and the battery life take a hit. Also concerned with emulator performance with N64, PSX and MAME Reloaded.

Testing will answer this stuff.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
Or the concerns that Anandtech had based on benchmarks, the Tegra 3 sweet spot for pushing data was 1280x800 and 1920x1080 would likely strain the gpu.

Benchmarks were in their iPad 3 review and explains this is why the bigger gpu was put in the iPad 3.

Seems the diminished return point curve of the Tegra 3 gpu may be well before 1920x1080.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] dvboy:
I put the pre-order in on one of these units,just curious,hows the heat issue going with the guys here who already have a A700??Also from the information I am finding,there seem to be some units with a camera led flash,and others without?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
Where are you finding that? I have not seen any unit with LED flash. Maybe you are looking at the pictures of prototype.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Shudushi:
Confirm. I've mine for a few days now and it has definitely no flash!
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] dvboy:
I would post a link,but because I don't have enough posts I can't at this time.Do a google search under images and you will find a few results with a LCD flash.Maybe they are prototypes??
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] KruSan:
Also can confirm. Having mine for more than a week now.

Gesendet von meinem A700 mit Tapatalk 2
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] dvboy:
A review that just came down on YouTube today indicated the screen was'nt very bright to the point where even indoors he wasn't satisfied??Just one persons opinion but enough to concern me as a perspective buyer.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] loonix:
Thanks that is a red flag indeed. I am still under the 30day return window for the A510 from Amazon and trying to read about the A700. Unlike others, the A510 I have doesn't get even close to hot, warm at worst sometimes really. My only problem is after the OTA update the touchscreen is not very responsive anymore which has been the most commonly reported problem. It is so bad that I switch to my phone to reply on gtalk etc because the keyboard is nearly useless, and yes I do have a screen protector which is suspected to exacerbate the issue.

The battery on the A510 has been awesome good though. With just little browsing for a couple of hours and youtube, it can go to the 5th day without recharging. Watch movies and maybe 3 days at worst. With the A700 higher resolution, I'd expect it to not last as long, but is it just 2-3 hours less life? Is the battery rating same ? (9800 mAh)

Also for those who had A510 and have upgraded, same cases work? I'd like to keep the rooCase executive if I can (even though it doubles the weight sadly)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] dvboy:
Here are some pics of the A700 floating out there with a flash...
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] lqbweb:
read my post...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=27402590&postcount=57
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
All these pics are of the prototype when it was announced but unfortunately Acer became lazy and just slapped a new screen on A510 instead of making a new design/model for A700.

---------- Post added at 04:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:47 PM ----------

Ya, I saw that review as well and I am concerned about the brightness issue as well. Hopefully, it was just the issue with the reviewer's piece.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] dvboy:
Yea the reviewer also thought it was a little sluggish navigating through things.Its clock speed(1.3ghz) is the same as the A510 but with the extra screen res(1920x1200),that might account for the lag in navigation?Asus's TF700 will use the same processor clocked at 1.6ghz so I suspect that unit should be a little snappier.Can't see how Acer could increase the clock speed to 1.6ghz given how they seem to already have heat issues with the A510.Asus on the other hand doesn't seem to have any heat issues with the TF210 clocked at 1.3ghz so its got me leaning towards waiting for the Asus TF700 AT 1.6ghz:confused:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
I think the problem is not the CPU but is the GPU. A5X in the iPad 3 is less cpu power than the Tegra 3, but the GPU is designed for high res displays.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] wynand32:
So how is ICS handling the scaling? Is everything the same size only sharper, or is everything smaller?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] naira1:
Its definitely smaller and sharper. But you should be able to read even the smallest print without having to zoom. That said, most apps need to be optimize and updated for the screen resolution.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
How is the screen brightness? On the videos that i have seen the screen looks very dark even at full brightness.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] laloutre:
DSLR Raw files

Hi,

any of you using this tablet to watch DSLR raw files ?

That's what I would like to do, but I'm quite afraid about performance on heavy raw files (Canon 5DII)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] DЯΦiDi@П:
If you like to tell me a free app oder demo that is able to show thes files on android and also provide me with two or three sample pictures, I would make a test and report the result here.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] laloutre:
Thanks !

Here are some soft which should be able to see the files :

Photo Mate demo

RawDroid beta

RawPal Gallery lite

For the files, upload is in progress and should be finished in about 15 minutes

Anyway, here's the link : sent by MP as I'm still too noob to post links ;)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] DЯΦiDi@П:
Here we go:

I copied the sample images until I got 50 pictures with an overall size of 1 GB in one folder on the internal storage

Your interests:

- the hability to quickly move in ou to a detail (to chek if there is any blur at full res)

- navigation between pictures

Here are the results using the named apps:

Photo Mate:

- opening a folder, you get some placeholders that will fill quite quick with preview pictures. About 3 sec for 15 pictures per page

- taping a picture will take about 2-3 seconds to show the next page with smaller previews, the selected picture and a histogram

- a tap on the image and it opens at once in preview quality and switches to full quality 2-4 seconds later, surely depending on format and file size.

- zooming ist quick, but not smooth

- double tapping zooms in, but not to the max, just about x3

RawPal Gallery

- feels much quicker

- after showing up all found folders with pictures, you get a hires preview (over half of screen) at a fingertip.

- zooming in is slow, but this seems to be the fault of the app. i need 3 zoom gestures over the full screen to get to maximum zoom which seem to be no more than x4

- double tapping gives maximum zoom to this point at once.

RawDroid

- needs over 5 seconds after choosing the picture folder to show up 36 previews.

- zooming, moving, sliding from pic to pic: awsome! fast and smooth. I didn't expect this after the first two apps.

- max zoom is about x10, double tapping works as well

- single tapping shows up information or hides them, but I'm sure you know this ;)

- seems to be a very good app to quickly review some pictures

In my opinion Raw droid shows, that the A700 is really good and quick enough, but the other apps need to get much better.

Hope this helps.

I keep pictures and apps a little more, if you have further questions, but I'm "only" an IT-pro, to photograph is not my profession :)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jake21:
I presume the asus infinity will use the same gpu as the acer or have they said they added additional gpu hardware ?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] laloutre:
@Droidian

Great review mate ! You almost convinced me, it is really detailed, I did not hope so much.

Much appreciated.

I've got a few more questions

- What about heat during processing those files, is it tolerable ?

I'm a bit concerned reading some people say it is really hot when working.

@All

Is USB Host mode working good ? I would like to use it got retrieve pictures from a CF card thru a card reader
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] DЯΦiDi@П:
You're welcome.

During the tests it was lying on the table and I didn't have a hand on it to test so I just point to my posts here and here

Only testet with USB-Stick (worked fine) until now.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] laloutre:
Well it looks more and more interesting.

Now I've got to find the best place to buy it. Before I hesitate again with the still unseen Prime HD :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Shudushi:
No it is not. I have both A700 and A510 in front of me and the A700 is much brighter than the A510. A510 at full brightness is almost as bright as A700 at half brightness.

Unfortunately the screen of the A700 is more on the reddich side, so pictures (especially one with grey colours like mountains) are a bit more into yellowish than really grey. The A510 has correct colours but is a little bit on the cold side (less saturation than the A700).

What you have to do is to switch off the automatic brightness control. It is too dark on both tablets.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] desplats:
The A510 colors are wrong : temperature color at 11 000 K and 10.7 delta E. That's really bad, and I thing A710 is better.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Rick 64D:
How do I disable the Ring? I saw where to disable the Ring icon in the Notification bar, but not how to completely disable it.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
Settings, under device you see ring, there's a check box that says enable ring on system bar. Viola!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
Here's an odd question about two things (prompted by seeing a thread about corrupt images on the Xperia S).

Firstly, ever since copying over data from my review Xperia S to the Xperia S I actually bought (using MyBackup Pro), I've had two messages in the Messages app called 'Draft' which have no text and no recipient.

What's more, no matter what I do I cannot delete them. Well, I can try - but they remain there. Any advice on how to delete them without a complete reset?

The second issue is that the phone was set to sync my Skype contacts but when I went to call a Skype contact with the ordinary phone app (not wanting to use Skype to dial), I couldn't find the contact. When looking through, he wasn't there.

So I copied down the number from Skype (no cut and paste from contacts there unfortunately) and manually added the contact. Then when I called him, I saw the photo of the person on the screen so clearly the contact WAS already in my phonebook somewhere, along with the mobile number!

When I later looked on www.google.com/contacts it turned out that I had this contact in the phonebook THREE times (including the manually entered data). After merging and resyncing, all of the data showed up in one entry. As far as I can see, there's no way to filter out Skype contacts (just contacts without a phone number, which these mostly have).

I hope that these issues will be fixed come ICS, but has anyone else had similar problems? I really don't want to reset the phone to clear out any corrupt data, and the phone isn't rooted.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Munoz.ca:
I have a wifi only Galaxy Tab branded with US Cellular SCH-I800 and am wondering if anyone has tried putting ICS on this version? I am debating on using the method in this thread "[HOLY CRAP][SPRINT P100] Stock to ICS - Complete Walkthrough"

Has anyone done this with a US Cellular tab?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Munoz.ca:
Anyone???

Good talk...
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjh03b:
Yes, that method will work just fine. I couldn't stand to leave you here talking to yourself any longer.
[EVO 4G General] bobarune:
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[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Someone actually took my idea of the auto reboot seriously, epic win. Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] fgkmadmike:
going to have to flash this later
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
So, will this be backward compatible with older amon ra backups?

And thanks for heads up.

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] bobarune:
Deleted....
[EVO 4G General] JDM Civic EG8:
For me when I tried to do a nand restore and reboot my phone like usual it kept sending me to the bootloader. so I tried turning off the phone then turn it back on still sent me straight to boot loader. Flashed a rom rebooted and didn't get sent to boot loader..hmm

Sent From My Evo 4G Amped Up On Verizon Tower Power!
[EVO 4G General] ben.nesheim:
flashed this afternoon have been working fine for me for a few flash fixes and what not so far ;)
[EVO 4G General] Diablo67:
I flashed this version over the old version and when i went to restore a rom,it sent me to the bootloader,then i tried it again,i got stuck in a bootloop,since im the kind of person that doesnt give up easy,i tried it again and it finally restored my rom,i booted back into recovery from the rom and the damned recovery went back to the old version,now how is that?Too weird,i think ill just stick with the older version for now.
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Diablo, just a thought, doesn't the newer version of ra allow for backup of recovery? (I still use old ra 1.80). If so, did your nandroid contain recovery?

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] Diablo67:
Yes and no.