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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] afblangley:
That is the downside to using the native dialer, and there is no way around the prompt that I know of. Most of my VoIP calls are made on tablets that don't have a dailer, so that's not a problem. On my main phone, going through that extra step got tiresome so I set the native dailer to default to GV, and when I want to do VoIP I launch an app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluespire:
I believe that was what the app I spoke of before on the Amazon store was used for. I was just like you and wanted to use the native app so much. There are SIP dialers that are very nice.

As far as the Incoming @ IP thing goes . . . You get something similar when SMS used to be available through Gmail. I bet that if you just add that number to your contact, it won't change, and your contact with just show up as usual. I think it's just the nature of VoIP, and the way the native dialer displays the incoming call. The SIP dialer, I bet, would strip that off.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neurod:
I just decided to delv into Internet calling, and I will be getting the T-Mobile plan this coming week. I currently have GV/pbxes/csipsimple set up and working. My question is..

What is the advantage of paying for anveo or some of the other services listed? I'm not one to chat on the phone much, my longest conversations are on Skype anyway. My monthly fee would be nominal.

Sent from my Dell Venue 8
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
Hangouts and Google Voice Integration is ON!

Well, it is supposed to be rolling or rolled. :cool: I grabbed the new dialer too, but still have Hangouts 2.1 and need 2.3 and I am somewhere back in the roll out.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...gration-is-currently-rolling-out-in-hangouts/

http://9to5google.com/2014/09/10/go...ith-google-voice-integration-free-voip-calls/

https://support.google.com/voice/answer/6023920?p=voice_sms&rd=1

I have messages integrated using Sliding Messaging, so I have not enabled and used Hangouts yet. I use the Tasker plugin for GV settings to toggle my incoming calls depending on location. I use the native dialer for cellular and VoIP, and www.voip.ms as my link. Those who saw my earlier posts understand that I have very poor cell coverage at home and use VoiP via Tasker tricks and voip.ms premium (penny a minute) for home use. Works perfect, especially with the QoS configured in my Asus RT-N66U. I'm not wanting to loose this.

Anyone else have this working? I'll report back as soon as I do.

edit - Installed the dialer on my Nexus 7 tablet and nothing, Hangouts does not give me an SMS option to enable. I have been ttexting via my Google Voice app on it just fine. (shrug)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trollarc:
hangouts dialer + hangouts 2.3 works fine on my s4 the new hangouts SPK is at http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...on-big-visual-overhaul-apk-download/#download

Justin
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mgamerz:
Don't see how to text from 2.3 hangouts as my GV number though. Only let's me use T-Mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
Look at the second and third links in my post above.

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Do use both carrier SMS and Google Voice SMS?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trollarc:
Seems to only use gv. However, I don't have a carrier. Therefore it may not be adequately answered.

Justin
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
It's an account-side phased rollout for texting and voicemail. Only calling is enabled asap upon using the new 2.3 Hangouts and Hangouts Dialer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
Ahhh. I did see that, I get carrier texts fine but not Google Voice, though they show in the app. I wonder if I should remove it? Guess it's time to experiment more. ;)

edit - Don't try this at home, I'm a trained tchnoweenie. Keep Google Voice app if you use it until the full rollout. Erk. :cowboy:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
And I just got a Google Voice app update to 4.6.0 while the one in the store is still 4.3.8 but updated today??? Some comprehensive info from Android Central, nothing really new, but complete and helpful.

http://www.androidcentral.com/what-you-need-know-about-new-google-hangouts-and-google-voice
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] szalapski:
Great info here.

If I already have Google Voice (forwarding only) and I am getting a new Android phone with T-mobile $30 prepay, what should I do? Do I port the Google Voice number to T-mobile, or something else? I would like to use it with T-Mobile but I don't want my calls/text from my new phone to come from a different number (my true phone number), but from my Google Voice number.

Or do I need to "port" my new number back to Google Voice and get rid of the current Google Voice number?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aaopt:
Don't port anything. If your new phone comes with a new SIM card, when you activate it you will get a new number. Don't tell anyone that number, EXCEPT Google Voice -- add it as one of the possible forwarding phones.

On the new phone install the Google Voice app and the Hangouts app as well as the Hangouts Dialer app. Configure the Google Voice app to use Google Voice for all calls. Then when you use the native dialer, it will actually dial Google Voice first, and then forward the call from there, so that your Google Voice number is what shows in the other party's Caller ID.

If you are in wifi range, or if you think your mobile plan has plenty of data, you can avoid using the native dialer and instead place your calls with the Hangouts app. Then you are using data instead of voice minutes.

You can set Google Voice to forward calls to your cell number, or not. If you are intending to use your mobile data for VOIP calls then don't have GVoice forward, or else you will have some confusion when both Hangouts and the "real" phone ringer ring at the same time. Instead the Hangouts app will receive your calls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] szalapski:
Perfect, thanks! That is what I will do. I think then I just disable my carrier's voice mail and everything should be seamless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mgamerz:
You can only disable, not forward, prepaid T-Mobile voicemail. If people can call your tmo number it will ring forever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HemRoyd:
Yeah but isn't Google Plus a prerequisite? I don't want. Twilio just announced support for MMS and all carriers. I'll wait for a decent app to come out and paygo on that before I let the world know what I'm up to 24-7.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
For Google Voice? No.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HemRoyd:
I didn't say anything about Google Voice. Isn't it all about Hangouts now? I see nothing recent on the web from Google specifically discussing Google Voice and how much love they are going to show us. How much support do you anticipate for good old Google Voice? MMS? Im not interested in signing up for Hangouts. I'll pay first, just me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dimex:
Unfortunately, at least for right now, it seems G+ is a prereq for some of the GV/Hangouts integration features. For example, I would get a voicemail within Hangouts, but when I would try and play it, it would error with "Unable to load. Try again later." Immediately when I created a G+ profile, it started working.

I'm anti social media as well, but at least in this instance, I created a G+ profile. Take 5 minutes and go through the privacy settings making everything you can private. I don't think anyone is able to see my profile, and if they can it would just be my name. So in that aspect, you're overreacting a bit buddy, unless simply having a G+ profile will tempt you too much into getting involved with the high school that is social media.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HowDoIVoIP:
I made a YouTube tutorial on how you can do it. Just search FreePBX - first result.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluespire:
Yeah, I agree. There is too much FUD regarding social media. Regarding security, G+ is the best of the lot when it comes to options. Just lock down the account. If you care that Google has your information, then don't use GVoice in the first place. If you just want to separate your identity from your data, then make a fake account to use for GVoice and make the G+ with that account. But keep this in mind, regardless of what your TRY to do, your CORRELATION of data will make it seem like online services stalk you. It's all automated, of course, but Google, FB, etc all keep track of where you log into from, how long you stay online, etc. The services will, generally, "figure out" who you are and start to cross-suggest friends from distinct profiles. It's crazy. I keep multiple profiles for Google, and once of them keeps getting suggestions from my personal friends list, but I have NEVER added any friend to that account. Technically, how would that profile know to ask about my friends? But it knows what IP I'm logging into, and my habits. /off-topic
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mgamerz:
If you don't post anything to Google+ there's nothing for people to see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] baiju2012:
Available again T-Mobile SIM cards for a penny.

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card

Nexus IV
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Im returning.. after a long hiatus away. I transitioned to bb10 a few years ago (currently on the passport, amazing phone, best out there) and finally picked up an android device, the HTC One M7 to mess around with as my 'tablet.'

So Im going through the motions of setting this up and downloaded sipdroid. I installed it and put in my username from back in the day along with my password (just reset it) however its giving me the "registration failed (404 not found)" error which didn't give me any search results when tried.

What specifically is the issue here?

Does this guide still work? I thought I heard rumors Gvoice was being disabled as a VoIP service or something..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] parrothd:
Wow.. Really out of touch eh? Google voice has been integrated into hangouts with VoIP calling.. Download the new hangouts dialer and hangouts and setup Google voice..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Ha. Yup. Wow. Okay, thanks! Although now I no longer feel so rebellious for beating the system.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] numlauf:
google cannot port my number

google voice cannot port my number.... what do you guys suggest i do. is there a way i can get my "public" number to port to google. does anyone know of a work around to get call forwarding? i read of using voip.ms i checkd and voip.ms is able to port my number but idk how that will hinder things, id really like to use google.

please post whatever suggestions you guys have

thanks nick
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Ah, thanks for reminding me of another VoIP setup with which I had experimented in the past. I'll have to check and see if I've still got that PBXes.org account active. I can't remember why I stopped using that route... probably just because GrooveIP is easier to set up and configure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Husam2011:
I'm planning on getting the international Galaxy S3, and getting straight talk $45 plan if the edge on this plan doesn't do it for me :(. I just hope my parents don't mind an increase of 45 in my bill ;P

(I'm currently on this plan with T-mobiles GS2, faster speeds than the nexus and faster processor but the screen is annoying)

--I'm also thinking of getting a tablet plan from att for $30 a month with 3gbs and using grooveip- sipdriod.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] avaris246:
Dual Sim Phones

Would it be possible to use a dual sim phone alongside Google Voice to get everything you need?

For instance one sim can be $30 monthly plan, and the second sim can be just voice service from someone like T-mobile or H20 wireless that gives 1000 ($100/year) to 2000 minutes ($100/year) of voice service respectively?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I guess... if you wanted some **** knockoff Chinese phone with 2 SIM slots :p .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Thanks so much for this guide. I'm pretty much ready to go. TMO SIM should arrive in the next few days :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] noneone:
Hi!

Anyone know how to turn SMS OFF to the native phone number?

The goal of the post, as I understand it, is to go all out google voice. The OP shows how to turn off the native phone numbers voice mail to use gvoice voice mail. Cool.

So, what to do when people call or txt you on the carrier's number?

I guess its simple enough to ignore voice calls (telemarketers?) that come in on that number, or send them off to no voicemail land.

What about sms? I don't want to get any sms to the phones carrier number. I want to be all gvoice all the time.

Any idea how to do this?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neosic:
Great post but I'm not sure how exactly I am able to use my exisiting Tmo number without canceling it. Is OP suggesting that those with exsisting numbers cancle their accounts, port their number into GVoice, then finally port that Gvoic number into their new plan?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
Turn off auto retrieve in the stock messaging app
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krazykeyur:
Port your number from TMobile to Google Voice.

In Google Voice settings, enter the number for TMobile Prepaid as a forwarding number. That way, your new TMobile number will ring when someone calls your old TMobile (and now Google Voice) number.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
Always port before you cancel. Or you run the risk of not being able to port it since you don't own it anymore. What do you mean by not cancelling existing TMo account? Are you already on prepaid?

And no need to port GV to the new plan. It's basically: port old number to GV. Link new number to GV and then forget it. You # will still be your old # since you ported it to GV
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Unfortunately, I don't believe this is possible. You can, however, disable notifications for incoming SMS.

That only affects MMS, I believe.

If you have an existing T-Mobile account, you will have to get a new one to be able to get on the $30/mo 5GB plan since it is supposed to be for new customers only. If this is your case, I would:

Order a SIM card + activation kit for T-Mobile prepaid

Once the kit arrives, Port your existing number into Google Voice.

Activate your new prepaid stuff

Set up Google Voice to forward calls to your new SIM

Cancel your old service.

I think that gets everything? It's still Monday morning, I'm a bit slow. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] noneone:
hmm .. seems right, in stock messaging app, I can turn off automatic download of MMS, but, my phone still gets plain SMS AND notifications that I got an MMS with a choice to DL the mms or not.

So, I'm back to square one ....

If I get a "minimum" pay as you go plan, with limited txt, there is no way to prevent getting sms that I have to pay for? Someone can just spam my phone number and no way to turn it off?

I want to go cheap prepaid, and use google voice for everything but, don't want to leave myself open to getting charges for sms that go to my phone instead of gvoice txt.

Thanks for any suggestions!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
Yeah, this is a peculiarity of US carriers and their greed. They're basically double charging us, a charge for the outgoing call/text, and another for the incoming call/text when basically it's 1 conversation/text. In Europe and Asia, incoming calls and texts are free. Whoever makes the call pays for the conversation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Why are you receiving SMS on the native number? If you're not handing out the number then it shouldn't be receiving anything. At worst you'll get a few if the number hasn't been held out of circulation long enough and there are people/spammers sending to it. In either case, you can call your carrier and they'll assign you a new number if you indicate that you're getting unnecessary spam texts.

That being said, most carriers will let you call and cancel texting, but its a bit hit or miss for prepaid.

Well... kind of. It's "free" to the receiving party, but really what's happening is the sending party is double charged. The receiving carrier just back-charges the sending one. The difference in the U.S. is they're not allowed to back-charge the sending carrier and have to eat the cost, so they just pass that cost onto the user.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] noneone:
I get 1 or 2 txts and 3 to 5 phone calls a day on a brand new tmo prepaid number. Most seem to be unwanted sales calls, couple were wrong numbers.

Hence wanting to turn both txt and voicemail off. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
With that many calls per day I'd definitely look into getting another number.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dtrider:
Call quality seems to be pretty good with the native voip app. Wifi and hspa+ work really well. It sounds just like a carrier call and i'm not getting any complaints from other parties. if the phone says edge or 3g it's pretty much unusable though. Talkatone didn't seem to work. Really noisy and the other party can barely make me out.

Any thoughts on why my tasker setup would only trigger sometimes? I can't figure out why. I've checked the original post I've all the pieces there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mixersoft:
Am I missing something?

If I use a Google Voice number, why not set Google Voice to forward ONLY to Google Chat, and NOT the prepaid TMobile number?

I tried this with Talkatone and it seems to allow me to make/receive calls AND receive/pickup voicemail over data.

What is the advantage of forwarding to the mobile number as well?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
What happens if you don't have data service (or if Talkatone has randomly disconnected for no reason, as I have seen it do on occasion) ? How would you receive that call? Receiving calls via your cellular service will always be more reliable than a VoIP service. VoIP is just nice because it is cheap or free.

I only rely on VoIP when I am on a known-reliable wifi network. When I'm out and about, I need to actually know that people will be able to reach me. Thus the reason for forwarding to both numbers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Forgive me if I've missed it, but what VoIP/SIP service are you using with the native VoIP app? Have you compared it with CSIPSimple? I've found that to be a very good client for traditional VoIP (or for Google Chat VoIP via pbxes.org); it seems to be a bit more battery-friendly too.

As for your Tasker issue.... can you export your profile so I can see what's actually going on?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Headcase_Fargone:
You wouldn't, that's the problem. I use Sipdroid and have a Tasker plugin set up to change my GV settings from GChat to cellular when I leave home, and if that profile doesn't get activated for some reason I have no idea if someone is calling me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Yup, that's the route I used for a while - until I figured out how to toggle Airplane Mode without affecting Wifi ;) Controlling your interfaces on the device is a lot more predictable than remotely toggling settings on Google's server.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HemRoyd:
I'm out in the sticks. There are places where I may get no Wi-Fi, data OR voice, yet can still receive MMS. This way I would still at least get a transcribed VM text.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgrinst1:
I've tried everything under the sun for Voip apps (I think) because I'm a geek at heart...

CSIPsimple is good. Re-trying it now with the PBXes setup from Sipdroid.

I had a problem losing registration and had to go to expert mode and change the reg interval to 2 minutes (per PBXes). Also changed the SIP transport to TCP instead of UDP because Sipdroid sets it up this way. I also deleted all the codecs that I didn't want to use. I left Wifi - G711u and 3G - iLBC, GSM and G711u in that order, even though I don't use it over 3G right now. PBXes supports iLBC and I have used that successfully in the past.

Interested in knowing if you changed your settings. Great thread, I've learned some stuff about Tasker I didn't know before, so thumbs up, thanks!:good:

*43 dialed from the SIP dialer will connect you to an Echo test. Mine, over Wifi, was outstanding quality and low latency.

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I added a Tasker profile to turn Airplane mode off for 10 seconds evey 15 minutes, then back on again (but only when my variable is set...). This allows me to get any push notifications/messages that require the cellular/mobile network.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HemRoyd:
Tasker's great! I need to spend more time with it, but I'm so balls deep messing everything else! Think I saw something posted along the lines of what you're talking about but haven't revisited yet.

Even though all of these tricks are collectively such far from perfect, disjointed solutions...I've never before in my life had such command over my calling plan and what I can do with my phone :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kevin935:
Hi, Op

I'm wondering whether this configuration works for any android smartphone, such as Galaxy II.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] noneone:
I'm not the OP, but, yes, yes it does. :-)

1) The key to the OP and this guide is the $30 T-mobile plan, with UNLIMITED data, but, only 100 minutes talk time. The OP guide is great, shows how to use google voice + VOIP (groove IP in the OP, but other posts suggest some others, such as talkatone) to use the unlimited data + wifi to voice talk, thus not going over all of the 100 voice minutes that come with the plan.

2) The use of google voice + groove ip + data plan + wifi and the ease of use tools in the OP such as tasker should work with any android phone that can run on T-mobile.

3) You should be able to use the OP's advice, google voice + groove IP + data or wifi, to supplement your limited minutes on any android phone, on any carrier. (e.g. this system could help you get more minutes free over wifi on say, a sprint 450 minute plan)

3) It's a t-mobile calling plan in the OP, one of the cheapest plans around, so, for full benefit of the OP plan etc., you really want an android phone that works on T-mobile. The faster your data connection is, the better your VOIP quality will be, generally.

You ask about the Galaxy II ....

I have a tmo Galaxy S II, with this $30 plan. If you read the OP, all the google voice stuff, etc.. all work just fine with the tmo S2. The S2 can take full advantage of T-mobile areas with the faster 4g. Tmo has a few different speeds of the high speed network, I think ... 14 mbs, 21, and 48? I had an HTC Sensation (slower 4g, 14mbs rated) that got 2 to 3 MBS in most areas ... my S2 gets 8 to 10 MBS in the same areas. The S2 is 48 mbs. The Galaxy Nexus is the second fastest, able to use the 21 mbs stuff.

Now, which S2 is S2? There are reports of the ATT skyrocket S2 working with 4g on t-mobile, so, if you flash roms and such, that galaxy s2 would work great too. The earlier att s2 will work, but, not high speed 4g data.

GL!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgrinst1:
Good post. But, not 48, 42! If you have read Douglas Adams, you would know that it's the answer to the secret of Life, the Universe and everything...

That being said, T-Mo had the chance to double it's 42 HSPA+ speeds to 84, but has declined, instead working on bringing LTE to the 1900 MHz band (as I understand it).

This is interesting to me, as they could be the forerunner in speed, by a mile... but are joining the crowd instead.

Still, we're not at 4G until we're somewhere over 100MB/s, so onward and upward, right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yerda:
Could you expand on this a bit? I would also like to use the more reliable tmobile service in the 100 minute allotment when I am out of wifi service instead of 3g/4g to ensure I get all calls. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 3rdstring:
I think he's talking about the Tasker profile he explains in the OP
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] noneone:
Ah yes, 42, the number of orcs Gimli killed at the Battle of the Hornburg, of course, I should have known.

My Gnexus on verizon LTE is 25 MBS VS 10 MBS for my Galaxy s2 t-mobile. Buddies home DSL is 6, so, if we're not really at 4g yet, I'm still happy my wireless internet on either network is faster than DSL. :)