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[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geeve:
Yes, in my opinion, Xperia Play was just an experiment to observe how a mobile gaming phone would react to the smartphone industry. And it did pretty good after a few months full of nice updates and optimizations of games for this phone.

Unfortunately, XPlay is quite underpowered right now compared to the newest phones which have 2x better specifications. But it still rocks knowing the fact that it can run ICS.

I think the next generation of XPlay could have 2 directions:

1. It could be a better, upgraded version of Xperia Play.

2. It could be a real PSP phone, on which you can play PSP games.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lightningdude:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never saw much about the Xperia Play (here in the States, at least) unless I just happened to see it on my carrier's website, or in a store on display, without the gamepad slid out. I think this phone would have really benefited from being pushed as a "gamer's phone," especially with them having announced the PSN store connectivity. Unless their sole target market was Japan, I think the reason this phone was held back was the lack of hype from Sony Ericsson, itself.

If the Xperia Play had really taken off, it wouldn't be hard to imagine Microsoft trying their hand at having an X-Box portable-type phone, with all the X-box Live connectivity they already have with Windows Phone 7. Even Nintendo, the veritable king of handheld gaming,would most likely have tried their hand at doing the phone thing.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
If they make it run the vita os and keep it as phone only without the android ecosystem, It would make it rather lame. In fact I would probably look into a highend slider as a replacement, I could bind the xplay buttons to certain buttons on the keyboard and still use them, and have all the other benefits of Android phones as well.

Not saying one using vita os would be terrible if your just after phone basics and good games, i just like what we have going in android and think alot of it wouldnt be available under vita os.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bornotty:
The new so called "PS" phone aka Xperia Play 2 will only rise once Sony's new PSP Vita saturates in the market.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrownEye02:
pfff.:( From what I can tell this time has already come. Before I had gotten my vita sales in japan had been bad. Which for Sony is NOT good. I played my vita for about a week or two. Its been sitting on my desk ever since. There are no good games for it and there's nothing else to do with it.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrROBschiz:
I want an Xperia Play 2 so badly.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wldalton21:
Mugen Power 5400mAh Extended Battery for AT&T Galaxy Note SGH-i717 w/ Battery Door

Just got it in the mail today. I'll post more later.

First impressions are:

1) great sturdy battery door, very good fit

2) total height is approx 11 quarters (SEE PICS)

3) adds approx 9.55mm

4) Battery weights 97 grams (FYI, OEM battery weights 50 grams)

Day 2: The included instructions said to charge the battery (in the phone) for 8-12 hrs. So I just finished that step and will report in tonight with some battery stats. I hadn't looked for cases (I didn't use one prior to getting the Mugen extended batery).

Day 3: 25 hrs on battery w/ 25% left (with moderate to heavy use throughout the day and night). I'm a true believer that this battery is the real deal. The extra thickness is a drawback but the way the battery door tapers does help some. I don't know how to test the NFC capabilities with the new battery door, maybe someone can tell me a way to do this. The inside to the battery door sure looks like it has the NFC hardware built in.

Day 4: 24 hrs since last charge with 68% battery left (low to moderate use).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SKyRocKeting727:
Power Brick!!! Hows the battery life compared to stock?

-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] minyaen:
I like it... do you know if there any cases to support the extra size?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] circuit.007:
Yeah have you found any cases? I guess I wouldn't mind then extra size for almost double their battery life. I'm guessing they Otter box won't fit on it? Also is it really that much bigger have you gotten used to it? Are all hopes lost for trying to fit it into your pocket?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] justquan2:
When you can, drop me some battery stats. I'm looking into getting one myself.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] parcsalooc:
I purchased this for my offbrand extended battery. Curious if it will fit. It says it will fit hyperion and other after market batteries. http://www.ebay.com/itm/270972317633?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
So any updates on the battery life are you looking it so far?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eun-Hjzjined:
Thinking of getting one, just would like to know if the sweet armor bumper would still fit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] CreekDirt:
How sturdy is the kickstand? Has the sound quality changed? Does it have the gold contacts for the nfc inside of the cover? Does it charge the phone and battery at the same time when plugged in? And finally, do you now walk with a limp with it in your pocket lol?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wldalton21:
Reply: (Kickstand) The kickstand is sturdy (with no side-to-side movement when deployed at all). It stays in the battery door and only comes out when its pulled out. I guess time will tell if it stays this way. (NFC) Yes, the gold contacts are inside the battery boor. I still have not tested the NFC, mainly because I don't know how when running Gingerbread. (Charging) The phone can be on or off while the battery charges when plugged in. (Carrying Around) The size (the weight is fine) is taking some getting used to. I do like the way the extended battery door tapers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wldalton21:
REPLY: The battery life is noticeably more. The second night I was trying to drain it as fast as I could. After about one hour of tethering, video playback, max screen brightness, virus scanning, and continually syncing all running at the same time, the battery dropped from 35% to around 27% of charge left. I was trying to get the battery low so I could start another 8-12 hrs charge (per the battery's initializing instructions), but gave up and had to charge it the next day after lunch when the battery had 15% left.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
Oh wow lol seems to be pretty good then so when you carry it do you put it I'm your pocket is it comfortable?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] justquan2:
Screenshot some battery stats if you please.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] circuit.007:
Will any case fit on it? i still want to protect my note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Scyke:
Im pretty sure the cases for the note won't work with it. I know people want to protect their phones but do you really want it bigger than it is with the extended battery?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
Did you ever get the case to fit?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wldalton21:
See pic
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] MAGiK9:
Just from the looks, the sweet armor cases may fit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eun-Hjzjined:
That's pretty epic. I want to use my note as a bluetooth music player at work all night long from 11pm to 8am. I think this would finally get my xoom out of my side [cargo] pocket at work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] littlewierdo:
There is an app on the market specifically for the purposes of draining the battery as fast as possible. It does this by turning every feature on the phone on (LED for the camera, uploading data via the cellular network, screen brightness at max and several others as well), you can select manually which items you specifically dont want to use (for example, cellular data might be an issue if you are on a limited plan). You need to be careful however, draining the battery too quickly raises the temp of the battery VERY fast. I ran it on the stock battery and in 10 minutes, the battery temp jumped to over 50 degrees C (someone can convert this to F, right now Im a bit too sleepy to do the math) and drained the stock battery from 90% to 62% in this same ten minute period. Search the market for battery drain and look for a description that isnt in very good English, the screenshots will show a list of 5-8 checkboxes with things to do to drain the battery quickly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] parcsalooc:
Fits my case like a glove.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] smikesmith3:
real question...is it worth $100 or is it worth it to carry a second battery for $15-$20 in your pocket?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
I went ahead and ordered one so I will let you know if it is and post a review as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] smikesmith3:
I did too...ugh. So much money but sick of carrying an extra battery and trying to figure out where to put it when I don't have pockets on me.

I've been putting it in and out of my cart for about 4 days trying to find a better alternative but sadly I don't see one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bulldog212:
What app did you get those stats from? Or is that an ICS rom or something?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
Its an ics ROM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] h0tw1r3:
What's the "screen on" time like? That's really the stat that makes or breaks it for me. With light use I can easily get 36 hours before I need to charge, but the screen time never gets above 2-3 hours.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
Can you post a couple pics if your case you got to go with this battery cover?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SayWhat10:
Extended battery, but you're not using your phone at all
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] justquan2:
I have to agree. For a moderate user such as the OP that's awesome. I'm a heavy user myself. Today for instance I'm working a 16hr day which means 14hrs I will be on the phone passing the time. I would like at least 7hrs using HSPA+ going hard with it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] CreekDirt:
Why is your phone awake so much?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] armedmetallica:
but will it blend?!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] parcsalooc:
Not the best pics, but this will give you an idea of the case
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] freemeech:
^ what case is that? did u stretch it over the phone?? didnt know there were cases for the extended batteries
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] parcsalooc:
It's the hyperion extended battery case
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
I see you decided not to use the kick stand some people make A cutout for the kickstand but the case looks real clean btw.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] smikesmith3:
I just got the Mugen 5400 at about 530pm. I put it in and have been trying to drain the battery.

Initial thoughts: Size doesn't seem to be as bad as I thought. I LOVE the way it feels in the hand, MUCH easier to hold and I have huge hands, probably bigger than 99% of everyone on here. I also like the texture on the cover, just seems to hold better and less chance of slipping.

Battery was at 64% when I put it in. Watched about 1 and half movies and have wifi, bluetooth, gps and screen brightness all the way oup. I also am running Juice Offender and still have 4% left but it seems to be taking FOREVER to drain that 4%.

All in all, I feel good about this thing. I used to watch about an hour of Netflix and send a couple text messages and I would be at 74% by noon, then if I played a few games I'd be at about 36% by the time I got home.

Should mention the Note isn't even my primary device due to the battery. Still using a Blackberry for texts and phone calls. I can go up to 3 days on that thing.

The Mugen just might make me give up the BB for good.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] anakmalik1503:
Wondering if i can get that in my country
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] supertrekie:
Does that case fit the AT&T phone though? Doesn't it say all over their site that its NOT compatible with the AT&T Note?

Is it covering ports / mics or anything?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
If you look at his phone a little more closely it says AT&T on it now he could have a different back on his phone and not the one that comes with the Mugen battery idk.

Edit: Just got my case and it fits perfect on the i717 note I did make a cutout for the kickstand though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] smikesmith3:
Battery on this thing is awesome. Wasted it down to nothing before a full nights charge.

Took off at 6:20am and it is 3:20pm now.

I've watched 2 TV episodes on LTE with screen on auto.

I've been playing with it a lot more too and I'm at 74% so far.

This is the first full day with it from beginning at 100%.

Typically as of right now, I'd be at 56%
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ndm217:
So before I order I want to be very clear.

the hyperion case will in fact fit over the mugen 5400 battery back door. I dont want to order until I know for sure it will work.

So parts list

AT&T galaxy note

Mugen Extended battery 5400 with back door

Hyperion tpu case for the extended batteries.

Thanks in advance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
Yes it will fit perfect only thing us there is no cut out for the kick stand you may have to make a cut out your self I did.

Hopes this helps if so just hit my thanks button.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UPTwnCLwn:
receiving the mugent

So when you receive the battery, should we charge it for 12 hrs right away or first drain it and then charge it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eun-Hjzjined:
I would drain the shipped battery, charge and drain some more.

I always drain the battery first then start the power drain/charge cycles for conditioning.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ray_Banci:
Anybody know if nfc is on this battery?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] smikesmith3:
Not sure if this helps. When trying the PayPal NFC request it errors me out.

This is the only NFC I've even seen on my phone.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5xbjog3wyc32vdr/SC20120520-092355.png
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UPTwnCLwn:
Thanks bro, I had got my battery from Amazon.com. It came halfway charge and I will drain it like you said bro.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] littlewierdo:
It is not necessary to fully drain the battery, nor is it necessary to keep it charging longer than the point your phone tells you its fully charged. These are old wives tales about batteries that just are not true with lithium batteries anymore.

And yes, I know what the instructions say, again, battery manufacturers dont even know how to handle/care for batteries.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Or, for a summary:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table

See the right most column which covers lithiums.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eun-Hjzjined:
It may not be needed to condition lithium ion batteries, but android generates a battry stats database that learns from your use and optimizes your experience based on power use.

So actually doing those old steps actually does help. If not only for your perceived benefit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] justquan2:
I just want to see some clear hard use stats to see if the thing works period. Took the battery of the charger at this time, battery was at 5% by this time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
Got over 9 hours of screen on time off this battery so far and some how when I rebooted my phone I lost my battery stats so this is based off the the battery at 88% NOT a 100.

If I have helped anyone please don't be shy to hit my thanks button it only takes a second.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jawain:
Oh here's a screen shot forgot to post it lol

If I have helped anyone please don't be shy to hit the thanks button it only takes a second.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] littlewierdo:
Yes except that it isnt actually good for the battery to be drained on a regular basis. I was speaking merely from the perspective of the hardware, not the software.

This battery is expensive enough that I would rather Android not report as accurately as it 'could' than have the battery physically be damaged.

I use an app called Battery Monitor Widget Pro by 3C where I can manually input my battery mah and since day one of having my Note, I installed this app on my Note while I was in the AT&T store purchasing the Note (in my opinion by the way, it is the best battery app out there, just look at the screenshots) and it has been accurate since I installed it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vanemburghj:
Why don't you use Mugen Power app?

Mugen has app specifically designed for the 5400 mAh battery, used similar app on my Dell Streak (and will on my Note once the battery gets here). Seemed to work after folks said it would not, Streak would show 1% and Mugen app would show 30%. Would only worry about running out of juice when Mugen app showed less than 5% remaining.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UPTwnCLwn:
Just got the cover for the extended battery from Hyperion in the mail and it fits perfect. Thanks for your help you guys...damn but think I shouldn't order it in white.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vanemburghj:
first day with my new Mugen 5400

4.5 hours straight screen use at 100% gaming, browsing, checking e-mail abit of youtube and at 63% remaining. Am loving it so far!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] johnny1223:
WOW!

This looks sweet! Is it worth it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vanemburghj:
Johnny so well worth it off power at 0700 and 1900 and pounded it hard, it is Satursay after all, and still 16% left. Buy you cheap one and take your chances or spend quality dollars on a quality product. Best extended battery I have ever owned.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ElAguila:
Any luck finding a holster or belt clip that will fit this thing with the extended battery installed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Jamesyboy:
Can we get a video loop test, or something else replicable, so we can get concrete numbers comparing the OEM battery to the Mugen. No offence, but batteries can have three times the capacity--but quality matters, and ultimately you could gain nothing. Extended/ after market batteries have a horrible reputation.

I'd love something less objective.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] evilution:
One of these for sale in the threads:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1765101

I was supposed to get it (up here in Canada) from my phone purchase from him, but he forgot to include it.

Now he's selling it and giving me the funds as opposed to shipping it to Canada (which is expensive).

So I'm helping sell it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tomin.fhl:
I'll take it for $60 including shipping.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ndm217:
No such test needed. Many of us have this battery and i dont think youll have problems finding favorable reviews. Under regular/heavy use, i get 2days... Under low use i get 3days. Also, the quality is absolutely great!. I have been using it for a while now and dont worry at all about my battery life unless gps is being used since it. Sucks major juice. Also, i dont use anything but a screen brightness toggle to save battery but i usually forget to toggle it.

Look for the reviews you spoke of around here. youll find them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] taob:
I think Jamesyboy is looking for some more objective test numbers (he made a typo in his post), since most reviews don't really have any hard data. People usually just say "this battery lasts two days for me!" without getting into exactly how they use the phone, whether or not it lasts two days every single time they use it, how long "two days" really is (e.g., 25 hours? 32 hours? 48 hours?), etc., etc. Part of the problem is Android does not provide detailed enough power usage statistics to make meaningful comparisons. For example, I would love to see a minute-by-minute record of how many milliamps the 4G radio draws. Or the screen separate from the various sensors.

All we have now is that the Mugen battery is "great", which it surely is. But it would be nice to see just how great it is via some controlled tests, without simply trusting the numbers printed on the battery. :) I'm working on the video loop one, but it will take a while to run down the battery. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vol2ume4:
Mugen Power App

Hello,

I tried opening the Mugen Power App, it tries to connect to some server and fails and shuts down. After a few attempts i uninstalled.

Any pointers?

I have a generic extended battery 5200 mah, the apps (i am using multiple) are all showing the same % remaining as the stock settings app shows. Am wondering if I am really not getting extended life or i am missing some set up steps.

Thanks in advance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
Can you charge this thing with the Samsung Dock charger? I need a battery-only charger, since charging a battery the size of mugen will take a long time and I can just swap the battery to stock while the Mugen battery is charging.

PS: If you use the 5200mA battery AND clear the battery stats, wouldn't this "confuse" the phone when later on you put on the normal 2500mAH battery? The battery stats will be for 5200mA, but the battery is 2500mA.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vol2ume4:
Hi,

Am assuming the ref to 5200 mah was to my post and responding.

I am using Battery Left App. It handles multiple battery profiles. I have to switch then profiles as i switch the batteries. And each battery can be defined using a mah rating and a name. So it should not get confused as batteries are swapped.

It is currently in calibration mode.

I am currently charging the battery loaded in the Note and using the standard wall charger.

Since the shape of the extended battery allows it to fit into the phone base so it should fit into the normal dock charger also. YOu may not be able to close shut the lid :-)

Hope this helps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vanemburghj:
Since I have a true Mugen on my Note my old Streak is my only reference point for generic battery and the app, however must ask are your rooted? If you are not rooted it will not work, also could be in one of their updates they worked in a check if using Mugen or generic and it auto sends you to the buy a real Mugen battery page.........

---------- Post added at 02:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:06 PM ----------

The question becomes why somebody needs to do a test just for you, there are multiple positive reviews of both Mugen and generic batteries, it just boils down to what you have in your wallet. Quality (Mugen) or Chinese generic battery money......and you go from there. Honestly never had an issue with my Steak and generic, but went the safe route with my Note and bought the Mugen, however if all I had was generic money that is what I would have went with as OEM battery is crap.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] MastahOnetrack:
Mine just showed up yesterday, the case is great quality although I will really miss my ' wallet ' style case. The battery came charged at 71% and I ran it with a movie playing, full brightness, gps, bt, full volume and my flashlight led running for about 4 hours, went down to 17% then I had to go to sleep so I left it on the charger with the screen clock on full brightness and let it charge all night. The wall charger brought it up to 100% - been using it fairly heavily texting and youtubing all morning (at work) from when I got up at 6:30 til now 1:30pm, its still at 75% - I'll run it completely dry tonight by doing the same, then charge it fully and see how long it runs off mains tomorrow.

All in all big plus for lots of battery life, con that it no longer fits in my wallet case but eh.. cie'st la vie.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
I just bought the battery and now I am looking for a car dock that can fit this thing. Can anyone recommend a good car dock?

Maybe recommendation for something like this if you have one?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vol2ume4:
No, my phone is not rooted. Strangely the description did not ask for that.