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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] foxbat121:
Just tried your example and Pandora resumes just fine. Tried with Pandora running at foreground as well as Pandora running at background. When call ended, it resumes.

This indicates to me that the root of the problem is not how HTC tweaks the multitasking. It is how much memory/resource Sense 4.0 uses. Basically, you have very little resources left. If you load a lot of apps/services, Android will have to close some background process in order for new process to run properly. If you don't have a lot of crap loaded (like some of us), you will be fine.

I don't mind how it is working today because it is actually the way I wanted it to work. In the past I have to use task manager often to kill the background processes that I no longer use (reminds me of old WM days). I prefer battery life and foreground smoothness over overrated multi-tasking. For a few instances I do use multi-tasking, Navigation and Google Listen. They work just fine for me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
I forgot to include that both the music being played and the call received were through the bluetooth hands-free link in my car. I know Pandora uses more resources with the bluetooth link, so maybe it is a resource issue unique to my case...

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Yep, tried again without the bluetooth link and it started right back up with no problems. Maybe the bluetooth issue is a) a separate bug or b) an issue specific with Pandora's bluetooth handler
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] foxbat121:
Tried my bluetooth as well (headset + A2DP) and no problem here. Naturally, BT stereo does use more resources. But in my case, it is not enough to cause Pandora to shutdown. You probably has some other crap loaded that occupy more resource.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skijackz:
My thought is if multi-tasking is changed, it's going to kill my battery life. Leave the stock phone the way it is. If you want multi-tasking improvements, ATT needs to unlock the phone and let the devs cook some ROMs. Right now, I'm getting over 2 days of battery life and that's with moderate use. I'll take two days over being able to switch apps fast.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
Switching apps fast isnt the problem, it is losing your work or place if you need to be productive on the phone (lol, some of us use smart phones for more than just music, youtube, and angry birds...)

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HA! Of course there is crap occupying resources....after all, it is an AT&T preloaded phone. Though I am not as judicious as I should be at killing tasks that don't need to be running...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] foxbat121:
First thin I did when I got my phone is to disable all AT&T bloatware. It is easy to do with ICS without the need for root. The only thing I can't disable is Ready2Go IIRC.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
!!! I did not know this! How?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
How do you come to that conclusion when my GSM Galaxy Nexus lasts over 24 hours on a charge with real multitasking? My Galaxy Note and Skyrocket did fine as well and they didn't have broken multitasking.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] foxbat121:
Go to settings->Apps->All tab and pick the app you don't like, tap on it, there will be a disable button for you to disable the app.

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2 days = 48 hrs > 24 hrs. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I can't think of a time or situation that I have needed my phone to last 48 hours without recharging. I certainly wouldn't pick that over basic functionality. If you're all about battery life over usability, I hear the older Blackberries get amazing battery life. Or an iPhone 4, for that matter.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
Fix yet? (I know there isn't, this is just a bump)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
Meh.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] louis.b:
They dont have a good design + good feel in the hands + SLCD2 super vivid and crisp screen + sense 4.0 + ICS + 4.7 inch display.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Btw http://hexus.net/mobile/news/android/39593-has-htcs-one-x-eating-many-apples/

:)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
Pandora does work for more than 10 minutes. I wrote earlier about all the music apps I tested.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I've been playing with minfreemanager for a couple of days and using the minimum setting multitasking is much better. I have an angry birds space game running and can switch back and forth between it and this post I'm composing and neither gets refeshed or restarts.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
Don't see that app in market.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Search exactly how he posted it. It's in there.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
Suggested settings?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'm just using the "minimal" preset
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
That seems to be working already. Now have to see how it affects battery life.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fokas.:
Doesn't do anything. Placebo
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] aob:
I'm having a terrible time getting push notifications from Google Voice. I'm not seeing my texts unless I check the app directly. Any thoughts on if this is a result of HTC's power strategies as well?

Anyone having similar issues?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
So far I'm not receiving any reloads from switching back and forth through apps. For me it's working quite well.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
If you say so....

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Besides don't you have the international phone? Totally different device. Different soc different kernel.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fokas.:
Just put it on mild and rebooted and seems to working. Not getting my hopes up yet though
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
here's mine tweaked a little.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chelseainspire:
I know this is a stupid question but, I'm not rooted so can I safely usd the minfreemanager app?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
No, its for rooted users only.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
no. you need root.

minfreemanager makes adjustments to the init.d script (I think) which is only accessible if you root.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JeepFreak:
I don't know exactly how the app works (although I used it for over a year with my Nexus One) but 10mb? Aren't all those numbers incredibly low when we have a gig of ram to work with?

Thanks a bunch,

Billy
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
Here's an explanation of what it actually does, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=622666. So IMHO lower is better.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fokas.:
It does still reload, seems a lot less, can't tell if it's placebo yet
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JeepFreak:
Nice. Thanks! I see that the number is remaining ram before killing processes, so lower makes sense.

Billy
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I tried those custom settings and everything slowed to a crawl. Weird.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I was able to do that without that program. As long as you're only using two programs and switching between them, they won't always reload.

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Well, guys: Today is the day. I'm taking the X back. I was all set to give it another chance. I was going to use it all day today and then make my decision Sunday. I thought I may even be overreacting about the multitasking. Put my sim card in last night and noticed right away that e-mails weren't coming in in a timely manner, so I did some testing on and off Wifi.

Three phones in front of me (iPhone 4s, One X, Galaxy Nexus), I sent myself a dozen e-mails from three different accounts. In every single case, the iPhone would get it first, then the Nexus, then the One X within a few minutes. But in several instances, the One X never notified me of new mail. After 15 minutes of waiting, I finally opened up the mail app and it refreshed and they came in. Push just seems to stop working periodically on that phone and given my job, that just won't work.

Will HTC release a fix? Probably, but right now they aren't acknowledging that bug. I know some of you say you're not having this issue and that's great. But I find that I just can't trust this phone.

I just wanted to say goodbye. Despite my ramblings and complaining, I also tried to be helpful in here and I was hoping we could all find a solution together. I'm sorry I won't be a part of that anymore, but I wish you all the best of luck. I will miss the sleekness of the phone, the screen, and the camera. But it has become obvious that it's just not the phone for me in its current state.

Good luck!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Well aren't you just too cool for school.. hurry up and return it. This is a developer's site for a reason. If you don't like to tinker, go play with your iPhone toy. I'm sure everyone in class will like it more anyway.

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] imstill@g:
No reason to be rude, enjoy your phone endeavor hulk
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Nice troll post. Not enough hugs from mommy?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Just a little sick of all these posts. Especially the ones that don't actually return the phone. They just keep saying they're going to but never actually step up to the plate. You could see how that could get annoying.

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
That's great. You want a cookie? At ATT returning it right now. Look at my post history before you jump down my throat. I have done much more here than just threaten to take this phone back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phositadc:
Relax. Phone has been out 2 weeks but we have a 30 day return window. Some of us are keeping fingers crossed an update will push out before then.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mmx6688:
I have tried a easy way some days ago for international One X to improve Multitasking issue. Maybe it can work for yours ATT One X also if you are rooted phone.

Check it out http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1662564

Please do remember to make a screen shot on action 3 in that post so we can find out what is the default setting for ATT One X by HTC.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
Wouldn't this accomplish the same task as using minfreemanager?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vitaminxero:
Yea, which doesn't solve the real issue (The One X killing the cache or something to indiscriminately stop any background processing from draining the battery.).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Srgsx:
Dealing with the lack of any real world functionality in regards to multi-tasking or app pausing for that matter has been un-fun. Great hardware, incredible screen but the push/email/notification bugs has also taken its toll on me. The final straw was the unbearable audio quality on a speakerphone call last night.

Back on the iphone for now, still had web pages cached from two weeks ago. Ironic.

I will miss the 4.7 inch screen....

Best of luck to all in regards to an update from HTC -
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] akhedraki:
Not sure if this has been mentioned at all, but quick ICS browser doesn't seem to have the refresh problem... not sure if this is a fluke, but i've been in and out of apps that refresh the page all the time, but quick ICS doesn't. Playing scramble with friends, listening to pandora, sending messages, even making phone calls. Every time I go back to quick ICS browser, its still on the same page and it doesn't refresh. Anyone else noticing this?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 21cdb:
The Google Voice app is a piece of junk and has never worked properly even on my Galaxy S2. Just look at the reviews, lots of complaints.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dragunbayne:
Guys! I think I've got something! I was going through some notes on Everyone and found something useful. So far I have been able to switch back 3-4 apps. Please test this out and let me know your results. You only need to perform the kernel tweaks in Rom Toolbox. Thanks to whoever it was that originally posted this somewhere.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
What the? I have 200mb free and I'm completely stock. As has been said we need a new kernel to get rid of this issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dragunbayne:
I don't know what device he was running as far as the free memory goes.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] c5satellite2:
Could the problem be Chrome? The beta definitely had a lot of issues with ICS. Caused issues on my TFPrime until I removed it. Can it be removed completely in the one x? Or is it tied to the os?

Just a thought.

Don't have the phone yet(eligible this week) or I wouldn't have to ask.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
:confused::confused:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
adjusting the values of minfree has really made a difference for me.

I'll keep using that until we get custom kernels and roms that fix the multitasking.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] t0mmy:
What values did you use?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pinkthesink:
Opposite for me. Using quick ics browser since my Nexus, and on the hox leaving the browser for any other app and coming right back causes the browser to refresh.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
at the moment just the mild ones which seem to be less aggressive than HTC's default.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
I thought you returned your phone a few days ago?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
That wasn't me. I considered it though.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Really?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26188748&postcount=33

And, no, I'm not stalking you. I own a Nitro too, so I keep up on what's going on over there. BTW - don't buy a nitro :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
So A guy can't change his mind? :D

Nowhere have I said I returned the HOX.

I'm still considering returning it, I haven't made a final decision yet. The locked bootloader is why.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Of course :) But you specifically said you were returning it "today". As someone who's in a similar boat as you, once you have a 720p screen it's impossible to go back. And once you spend some time with the HOX, I find it REALLY hard to go back to the nitro. I don't think you'll find another phone you're happy with. Maybe the SGS3 - but I can't stand OLED screens.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
After reading that the horrendous multi tasking on the one X is working as intended I'm returning it and taking a hard look at the nitro.

where's the word "today"? :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
^Poor comprehension on my part, I take that back :) Anyhow, let me know if you find something to replace your HOX!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
that's why i finally did it. returning it tomorrow (just got off the phone with t-mobile to have my phone number ported back over so it's basically done now). going back to my mytouch4gslide (only now i'm rooted and running virtuous inquisition which is AMAZING by the way)...

but yea. i could have waited for fixes, or for an unlocked bootloader and roms, and whatever else, but it was htc's statement that the multitasking is working "as intended" that made me say forget it. i'm done. i just really hope that the next wave of awesome phones (since now I might as well just wait until my t-mobile contract is up in october) doesn't have these same multitasking issues. my mytouch can multitask much better than the one x, and with this rom, runs amazing. only thing i miss is the sense 4 clock widget which really is pretty awesome to look at on that big screen. oh well.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
HTC's multitasking stance is sure to change. Right now they are in cya (cover your ass) mode. It is definitely and issue and they will fix it. If they don't, our devs will. Not really an issue, it will get better.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
And how will our devs fix it with a locked bootloader?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
Wtfever man. It'll get unlocked. Every other phone in the damn world Worth unlocking is unlocked. Troll
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NJGSII:
This.

There seems to be a pretty good effort behind getting a working bootloader unlock solution.

I predict in a week or two we'll have something, official or not. After using my old Galaxy S2 for a bit while my One X was charging and then using the One X again, the wait will be worth every second.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
To me this wait-and-see game is not worth it anymore - checking forums, hoping for an unlock, try this fix and that fix, dealing with ROM instability while the kinks are worked out for your device, etc. I want to buy a phone and have it work and get on with life. I was hoping things were at that state by now, but looks like they aren't. I briefly considered an iPhone, but after realizing how much that probably wouldn't work for me, I think a GSM Nexus is the way to go. There will be a new Nexus device in the fall that will improve on the hardware even more.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
Yep and that new hardware is sure to be bug free. I promise. Jeez it's been two weeks.....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] stevepork:
delete
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
All I'll say is that I now remember why I once told myself I would only buy a Nexus branded Android device. I will make sure to hold myself to that statement in the future and I'm excited to hear that Google will be releasing 5 Nexus devices within the next year.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
[rant]

i have not nor will not return a phone for software problems.

EVERY phone has a "bug" or two. this phone has a bug the extends battery life, OMG!! yes, killing navagation while trying to change songs, or complete reloads everytime i get a text (i use handcent quick reply) is a real pain. but it IS software and WILL be fixed.

i have yet to have a problem with the hardware, this includes the wi-fi and bluetooth problems others have metioned. this makes for a great base phone.

minfree does help...if you have little on your phone, if you have a lot of utility apps, things will still get shut down a lot. we are currently being forced into a "trust us, this is best" mode or "don't use it, any of it" mode. it sucks but this will changed.

[/rant]
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
There are a few problems with your philosophy with respect to this phone:

Multitasking probably won't change, as HTC has officially stated that this is how it is intended to work.

HTC has yet to acknowledge the exchange e-mail bug, meaning a fix is a ways off

I agree with you that the hardware is nice and software can always be tweaked, but I can't afford to wait months for a fix that makes the phone work correctly. I need to receive my e-mail right away (job) and I actually use multitasking. I could have waited on the fix for the SMS bug.

Until HTC admits to the e-mail problem, we won't be seeing a fix for that and it could be 2-3 months before that happens.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] theories:
While HTC may not have officially acknowledged the e-mail bug, the Tech Support guy I talked to said that they're working on a fix and offered some possible solutions (none worked), and also stated that the HTC techs are looking at the multitasking issue and admitted that it may in fact be overzealous in its memory management. He said there should be a fix for both issues coming (no timeframe given), but at the very least he just didn't brush the issue aside and say it was operating as expected.

On another note, I was looking to improve performance in the mean time by freezing rosie.apk with titanium backup, however its not showing up in the list. Is there a setting I need to change to have it come up? Yes I do have the pro version.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
The thing is, I honestly don't think they would ever consider "fixing" the multitasking if a good number of us didn't speak with our wallets (i.e. returning the phone), so while I could have afforded to hold onto it, I saw returning it as the best solution. I figured I could always buy it again if/when HTC addresses the issues.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] theories:
I don't disagree with you and respect your choice, in fact, that is the best way to get them to make a change, I only posted that to give some contrast to the naysaying. I myself considered returning the phone, but I couldn't part with the screen and camera.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Have you tried to use the native ICS email and exchange APK's? Or used enhancedemail from the market? Just curious if those exhibit the same issues. I don't use push email, as I get several hundred work emails per day, so push is pointless and a battery drain for me. I know I always have email waiting for me, whether it's push or not - so I leave it set to manual and launch email when I feel like working on it. Just curious if the other email apps exhibited the same, delayed, behavior.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zeezz:
People have already posted that the new One X update for international phones has greatly improved multitasking. We just need to wait for a similar update to come out or more likely leak for us to install.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RofSpark:
Not experiencing delays with Enhanced Email

I use Enhanced Email with my work email and Gmail, both setup for Push mail. It has worked flawlessly so far, no delays in receiving emails at all.

FWIW, I do not experience SMS delays either. Not a heavy user of SMS but I do receive them without delays. I know this because I mostly use SMS with my kids and wife while at work, and if I do not respond quick enough, they call me :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
There was never an issue with SMS being delayed. The issue was that the One X just didn't notify you of when some of them came in, so you'd go into your SMS app and there would be new messages there that you didn't know you had. Nothing in the notification area, lockscreen, or badges. I personally experienced this bug multiple times.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RofSpark:
I have no doubt you did. For whatever reason I haven't experienced it so far. I do receive the notifications without delay, both visual and notification tone via my bluetooth headset.

Wonder why some people experience it and others don't? I am rooted and updated to 1.82, but so are probably hundreds of others, many of whom have this issue.

At the risk of going off-topic, the only notification problems I had were pertaining to GV. While on stock I would never get notification of new voice messages. I had to start the app to check whether there were any. However, even this issue disappeared once I updated to the unofficial 1.82 ROM.