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[HTC Rezound] spitzaf:
WRT #3, what about installing all the apps through the store, then using TiBu to restore the data to the apps? I know, that IS a restore, but there must be some way to keep app data.

Vast majority of my apps won't matter, as they're just logins, but a few actually store data (e.g. games, though I don't use them too much).

At least we have the ability to push installs to the phone from https://play.google.com/apps instead of doing it all manual in the Play Store app. Much faster.
[HTC Rezound] CharliesTheMan:
Custom roms will restore the play store apps automatically, like pokemon. You can always restore as much data as you want. Con's tips were for people who wanted optimum performance for testing/comparison purposes. For instance, don't restore a bunch of data from another rom, then three hours into the rom come on here complaining about battery life. You haven't had time to run full cycles through it, and you restored data which is asking for trouble.

He's not telling you that you can't though, just that you can't compare battery life if you're doing things not recommended. It's like buying a new corvette, coming home and filling the gas tank up with cooking oil, then going on the corvette forums and writing about how your new corvette sucks because it's sputtering and wont run and it's only 2 days old. General Motors plainly marked the car with a "premium unleaded gasoline only" sticker.

Sometimes I backup and restore apps using titanium. But when I'm testing roms I dont restore anything because I'm throwing a variable that is likely problematic into the mix. I usually recommend people get their rom and kernel installed and settled and install their apps from the play store, which is very easy given how the apps are all listed, both free and paid. Then make a nandroid backup. Then restore app data on the very few apps that actually have a need to have their data restored. When you find a strange problem with the rom, the first thing you can do is wipe completely and restore that nandroid as the beginning of the troubleshooting process.
[HTC Rezound] thatsricci:
screen on for a whole hour and only -20% that's sounds kinda good to me.... on the stock battery I assume as well?
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Exactly. Couldn't have said it better.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
F that. i still don't trust this phone powering down due to low battery. i've seen too many examples of peoples phones just dying, then them never powering on again and needing to get replacements from verizon at my store. i don't EVER let this thing shut itself off anymore from a dead battery..especially since that's what triggered my first bootloop WCDMA problem.
[HTC Rezound] edjm711:
My signal is way worse. I drop calls a lot and frequently have 1x where I had 4g. Is it possible to flash back to the other leak if I'm locked stock s-on?
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
No, you need s-off to downgrade. But it might not be the leak, it might just be happenstance.
[HTC Rezound] edjm711:
Thanks. :) sees weird that the day I flash I would get dropped calls in places that were fine two days ago. hopefully a new leak hits soon or they fix the network. :/
[HTC Rezound] sogone209:
there is an app called power saver settings for ics on the market. this access's the HIDDEN power saver screen in ics (dont kno why the hell they hid that hopefully its not like that in the ota.) you can dumb down your cpu without the result of what the other cpu apps do. check it out. helpful to me while at work listening to dre beats alll 9 hours and still having a hour and a half left in battery at the end of the night! my experience.
[HTC Rezound] steven.rn:
Okey dokey. Waited another day and the 4g has performed better than ever. Working like a charm.

Sweet! Glad I (for once) was patient!
[HTC Rezound] nukeboyt:
Phone - yes. Streaming media - No (keeps dropping out). Same problem on every ICS leak / ROM I've tried on two different phones.
[HTC Rezound] Alexithymia2010:
Wait seriously? Hmm ...
[HTC Rezound] dyetheskin:
I prefer everything but the radios. gave me too much heat so I kept everything else but reverted to the radios on 5/2
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i still get the 24% to 14% 5 second drop on this new leak.

why the hell is android so bad at reporting battery stats? seriously. when you reboot a phone, you lose like 10% battery, every time. it's SO god damn annoying. now this? im at 24%, shut my screen off, 5 sec later phone beeps telling me i'm at 14. oh my GOD.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
I had it go from 19 to 14 the other day for the first time. Progress!
[HTC Rezound] Ragnell:
Just upgraded to Clean rom 4.5 and Man I am also getting horrible call connection issues, my gf said i was breaking up for most of the call and it dropped the call about 4 times
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
The battery Is absolute **** on ICS. Its SO annoying!
[HTC Rezound] thatsricci:
False.

I'm a normal user on the latest ics leak, battery is quite better than it was on gb! Stock rooted ics leak here.

-.|.- Rezound, ics
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
ics battery is 100% worse than gb. I could easily get 17 hours on gb. I barely get 9 now.
[HTC Rezound] dabomb697:
I have no idea what you guys are taking about.
[HTC Rezound] sknight13602:
I think it safe to say so people are running roms that are causing the battery drain because I also have amazing battery life and I install the leak then rooted it and my battery life is better then when I got it on gb.every user I have seen daddy they are getting great battery life 9 times out of 10 is stock
[HTC Rezound] thatsricci:
Quite safe to say! I have zero remorse for people who don't know what they're flashing or using and mixing firmwares radios and whatnot! Straight up its a solid leak.

-.|.- Rezound, ics
[HTC Rezound] sogone209:
i was playing music on dre beats for 9 hours at work i just got home. im getting amazing battery! :) plus with texting all day and fb. i say this leak is a keeper. anybody sayin your gettin bad battery you must have a faulty rezound or your mix and matchin radios or what have you roms are whats making your battery life sh*t
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Well for you people with the good battery life, what's your ROM and setup?

Help others out.
[HTC Rezound] sogone209:
latest leak stock everything except gpu drivers are patched to 218 gl thats about it and its rooted also, dont like roms so dont bother.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
lol @ people assuming I don't know how to flash roms and radios because I have bad battery life. I've been doing this since you kids were in diapers!

seriously. Stock ruu. ever since coming to ics from the first leak, battery has been ****. period. I went back to gb, guess what? added ten hours to battery life. so again, don't assume, because you know the age old addage that goes with that.

and all you people posting great life, show us screen on time. If you have anything less than 2 hours, it's not impressive battery life, period. it shows you don't use it and let it idle.
[HTC Rezound] Quada:
This. None of these pictures mean anything without screen time.
[HTC Rezound] Trooper Thorn:
This was one of my better runs with my OEM extended battery. Closing on on 4 days on one charge, with over 10 hours of "Awake" time. I didn't screenshot actual screen on time (not even sure where that is) but I think Awake time should be sufficient to show my use.

Nowadays I run through anywhere between 7 and 9 hours of Awake time on a charge on the big battery. The battery life isn't great, but with my usage, I tend to average just over two days on a single charge.

** EDIT ** I should say, this is not on the ICS leak, this is totally stock GB. Just hoping ICS can provide better results than this.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
click "display" and that shows ya screen on time
[HTC Rezound] dyetheskin:
I bet it's under 6 hours of screen on time
[HTC Rezound] Trooper Thorn:
I'm sure this is probably true. Though I can't go back and find out now, that was months ago.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
in gb, I believe you had great life. I got 17 hours on my gb rezound.

ics is not good on battery, period. anyone who claims its better than gb clearly doesn't have the screen on time to back it up. and if you do, please show it to prove me wrong.
[HTC Rezound] Troider:
Anyone have a good link for the leak? All the mirrors are terribly slow on AP
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I want to see screenshots of screen on time with the stock battery for these people claiming to get a days worth of life.
[HTC Rezound] dabomb697:
I'm running just a stock rooted ROM. No setCPU. That seems to be the best combo for battery life IMO.
[HTC Rezound] chefthomas99:
Yeah....but that's boring imo.

Custom roms are lots of fun!
[HTC Rezound] dabomb697:
Is this thread about battery life or fun ROM's? Just checking.....
[HTC Rezound] chefthomas99:
Its intertwined
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
No point in running a stock ROM in my opinion.

That's just me. If I'm gonna bother to root and S-OFF, go all the way and flash stuff.
[HTC Rezound] Sheldor1967:
Finally got around to updating! LOVE IT!

I can't say that I've had that kind of battery life, but I have noticed that I am getting much farther into the day before I have to plug in, like 2-3 hours. And that is even though I am using it more heavily as I play with the new features and listen to tunes on my new bluetooth headphones. I am totally Stock. :)
[HTC Rezound] Jgard:
While I'm new to the rezound (just got mine yesterday), I'm not new to android phones. I had an OG Droid and then a Droid Charge and have done plenty of rooting and ROM installing and whatever.

Personally I've found that every ROM I've ever run has had SOME kind of bug in it. Many things that a lot of people who don't use their phones for work or something don't care about, but things that have always been an issue for me. It seems the only way I can ever get a good stable phone is when I'm running the stock ROM. Deodexed and debloated tends to be an improvement on things, but that's it.

That and a lot of custom ROMs have some of the worst themes applied I've ever seen.

Just my opinion, of course. Maybe once I start getting into modding this phone I'll think otherwise.
[HTC Rezound] putney1477:
me neither....I had one shut down on me....started the bootloop from hell
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
best battery life I've gotten on ics so far. and this is only 14% left at only 1 hour 40 min screen on time.

notice the 23% to 14% vertical drop there lol
[HTC Rezound] Watercycle:
gosh i'm always amazed by how much the screen just drops the graph

on my X2, the overheating is what murdered it when used for longer than 5 minutes, but the screen on the Rezound just eats away at the battery :p
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
Extended battery #2

Extended battery #1
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
good god I used my phone a lot today... had to plug it in3 times, going on 4 after this screen shot. 4 hours screen on time lol 16%.. but again that's after needing to plug this damn thing in 3 times
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
and heffer, that's the extended battery. If that's the stock battery, then I don't know what in the **** you're doing.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Yeah, wifi is a little wonky for me. Running just the newest kernel on cleanROM DE.

The only problems I've had with BT is occasionally it has to be reset when switching from a call back to the streaming media.
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
Still dude, not too bad considering how much I've been staring at it lately. :thumbup:

From 100 to 0% I could get 4 hours screen on, with stock battery it should be about 2 1/2 hours screen on. I whole heartedly recommend an extra battery and battery only charger. I think running them from full to near empty every time has extended my range, and I love not plugging the damn thing in.

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[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
I might get the extended but it's so damn big.. either way, I'd have to find a case as well. but idk, I'm in hopes that ics will actually stop sucking battery wise when it's finally released.. i mean, they can't release it with such **** battery, can they???
[HTC Rezound] Serinety:
I think some of these screenshots are.doctored....

This is real deal usage right here.

Screen time is 1 hr 20 min.

That gap is where.I rebooted to install a theme.

I'm not complaining at all.. but 16 hour with 4 hous of screen time....

Ooook.

Battery testing should he done with 100% screen on time, only real way to take it out of the equation. Then difference in batt life would depend on other factors. But not screen.
[HTC Rezound] xdadevnube:
Even with Screen On time as a metric, it would still vary depending on brightness.

To throw another wrench in the matter, I doubt that battery consumption would change much on different bases when the display is the only thing being powered. I mean, the screen is the same screen. Perhaps they modified firmware to rendering engine, but I just don't see how display itself would consume a different amount of power.

I could see how many other things besides the screen would affect the battery life.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
Agreed. Screen on test doesn't mean much beyond establishing baselines.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
@heffer I have extended batteries too. Tell me what set up you have please lol. What brightness you're using and everything. I'm about to completely jock your set up.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I must retort your statement, respectfully of course. First, screen on time wouldn't be an issue because you can set a constant brightness like 100%. And you say that testing between the bases shouldn't see a difference between bases? Thats exactly the point of doing the test. Thats precisely the goal of making an experiment, you set the variables for each base exactly the same because, theoretically, you SHOULDN'T see a difference. If you do, you rule out that a certain base has better battery life with screen on. And honestly it depletes the battery the fastest too so it would be the quickest way to get the test done. Then you could of course run other tests like cpu tests and stuff.
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
3. 14 ruu, wipe(I used the 5x script), wipe boot, cleanrom de 1.4. Also, reception in my town is kickass-if that really matters. I generally use auto brightness. The only widget I use is the weather bug one, set to update on 3 hour intervals. I only have 1 homescreen, with a few app folders. That's it.

Also, those screenshots were on a weekday. Pretty much all Web surfing, or on device media playing. If I were to stream a bunch of music or video it would drop off a lot quicker.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
When I use my extended battery (select days only) I use this case

It helps round out the edges so that the bulk isn't so "steep" around the edges.
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
Get one, you won't regret it. You could always just get another standard size battery or two as well. I'm glad both of my extended batteries came with a door, because the first one is getting a little loosey goosey.
[HTC Rezound] jackpot08:
Why don't I get this good battery.I have extended battery and am on new leak and I can't even make it through the day?
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
How much do you use your phone? That's crazy. I make it a full day on a normal battery.
[HTC Rezound] jackpot08:
I use it regularly. Couple texts phone calls medium data. But my phone drains tremendously fast even on standby
[HTC Rezound] kevinb721:
+1 I usually can make it more than a full day with light/moderate use on standard battery.
[HTC Rezound] Ragnell:
I'm sure my phone is bad now, I can only make it through a day with 2 extended batteries, the phone keeps saying overheat, just now it was in my pocket in airplane mode only playing music and it dropped 25% in 40 mins
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dpelletier:
I had simplyhoney 2.8 rom and when i tried to upgrade to 5.1 got a voice telling me to convert data partitions and not enough room. Doing a search lead me to voodoo being the cause, maybe. I have unbricked my phone with odin flashed stock rom, flashed simplyhoney 5.1 same error. Reflashed back to stock cleared cache and data, wipe data and factory reset still 5.1 wont load, still i have voodoo files.

From what i have been reading there are different ways to uninstall voodoo based on your voodoo version. I dont remember installing it so i dont know what version i am on. I do have a voodoo folder and in my base directory and i have like 4 voodoo files some really big.

I have tried the disable_voodoo file trick but i want voodoo gone! I dont understand how to do this? When i flash back to stock guides say to clear your files i thought i selected that but my voodoo folders and files remain. Does anyone have any idea how to remove voodoo.

Can they tell me what needs to be selected in CWM???? Which options the exact wording?

I am pulling my hair out!!!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alex9090:
Just get into recovery and disable voodoo. Reboot the phone and it will boot right up. Then if you want, let it sit for few minutes and get back into recovery and enable voodoo and reboot. This time it should convert your partition properly.

You have red recovery right? Disable voodoo option should be in o lagfix options. You can also make a blank file named disable-lagfix and put it in voodoo folder on your sdcard and reboot. That would also disable voodoo. File should have no extension of course.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dpelletier:
red recovery right? Whats that?

I looked in CWM in there boot menu and i see the Voodoo section, it is set to disable and not to turn on at next boot. If its disabled then it wont effect flashing ROMs right?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Red Recovery is Voodoo

Blue is Stock

Green is CWR

Turquoise is CM7/ICS flavors

Also the large files on your SD card that are something like .tar.lzo or whatever they are named, you can delete those. That is a backup created when the lag fix was initiated. They take up unneccessary space on your SD card and aren't needed for anything.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jupitercries:
First off, I'm fairly noobish. I've had my G2 rooted since the phone came out. I've used CWM and tried out about a dozen ROMs successfully.

Tonight I made the mistake of not having PC10IMG.zip present on my sdcard after flashing a new rom and pushed the wrong button when it asked if I wanted to update my bootloader. This is the ROM I was looking to try out http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1493404

Now, if I have PC10IMG.zip present when I go into the bootloader I get the message "Main Version is older! Update Fail! Press <POWER> to reboot.

If I rename the file, the bootloader will load successfully and I can get into Clockwork Recovery but CW Recovery doesn't actually do anything and I'm pretty sure it's because I lost root and s-off when I accidentally updated the bootloader. Any time I choose a menu option in CW Recovery, it just goes to the CWM emblem and sits there. If I press power or menu key, it brings me back to the menu list.

I have several roms and backups on my SD card, including a backup I made before all of this happened tonight.

This is what is at the top of my bootloader:

VISION PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.82.0000

RADIO-26.02.01.15_M2

eMMC-boot

Sep 2 2010, 17:59:00

So basically, I have a phone that will not boot past HTC screen and any attempt to go into recovery or factory data reset sends me into ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.7 which doesn't work because I've lost root and s-off.

I even tried using PC10IMG_Vision_TMOUS_1.19.531.1_Radio_12.21.60.09b_26.02.01.15_M2_release_149459_signed renamed to PC10IMG.zip and get the message "main version is older, update failed"

Did I brick my G2?

Any help is very appreciated! I'm good at following directions and am willing to do the work to teach myself the various steps. I just couldn't find this particular scenario anywhere online. So if there's a way to say "Do this (link to instructions), this (another link), etc etc"; I'll gladly wade through all the guides. That way I'm not making anyone write up a step-by-step if the work has already been done. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jupitercries:
In the spirit of trading knowledge; I work as a repair technician for a cellphone repair shop (physical repairs) so if anyone has any questions regarding doing physical repairs; I'm happy to help out. Make a post and PM so I know to go read it and I'll help anyway I can.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OriginalGabriel:
You just need to re-root; follow the guide in the wiki.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jupitercries:
Some of these instructions seem like they need the phone to boot...

For example, I can use adb to push everything except for the files that need to go into /sdcard/

I have another phone that I can just drop the files onto the sdcard root, however there are some other areas that aren't working either

adb shell /data/local/tmp/psneuter

returns 'Failed to set prot mask (Inappropriate ioctl for device)'

This is happening because without the phone booting, the sdcard isn't accessible, right?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jupitercries:
C:\Users\Jove\Downloads\g2>adb push su /sdcard/

failed to copy 'su' to '/sdcard//su': Read-only file system
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarroyo:
Flash back to your stock rom (whatever carrier your with) then reroot you'll be able to put it all the adb commands once get a rom on your device. If your device was bricked you wouldn't be able to boot it up
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jupitercries:
The phone does not boot past the white HTC screen. Clockwork Recovery doesn't work. Renaming the stock rom to PC10IMG.zip doesn't work.

Is there another way to flash to the stock rom?

Also, how do you "thank" responders? Looking for the button and haven't found it o_O
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbmg:
Can you get into the bootloader. Press power+vol down. If so, can't you just drop the factory rom on an sdcard and name it pc10img.

If you can get in the bootloader your not bricked.

EDIT : what was on the pc10img file that you updated? Try and get ahold of a guy named nipqer. That dude is money, he would definitely be able to help you lol

My hboot is oo.76.2000

Can you just flash the older hboot? Maybe that is why it says your trying to flash a newer version. Is the hboot you have on there now the dz? You might have to flash the g2 hboot, then put the stock rom back on, downgrade and reroot.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nipqer:
Grab the latest rom for your phone from here http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision

Run the exe or extract the rom.zip from it and put it on your sdcard as PC10IMG.zip.

Do a full downgrade and root.

Or you could maybe try run misc_version in recovery to allow the downgrade in the first place

-Nipqer
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PNuT.:
the million dollar question?

i dont have any pc10img files on my sd card
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jupitercries:
Thanks so much for the replies.

Nipqer, I downloaded the stock rom as instructed (I actually already had the same file, but redownloaded just in case) renamed it to PC10IMG.zip, put it in my sdcard root, started the phone in bootloader, and got the Main Version is older! message. :(

My bootloader still reads:

If I remove the PC10IMG.zip and load the bootloader, any option I choose on the bootloader list like Recovery or Factory Data Reset; loads up Clockwork Recovery, which is non-functional. None of the menu items actually work in CW Recovery.

Am I missing a step here?

As far as the question as to what was on the PC10IMG.zip that I updated from... that's just it, it didn't prompt me to update until I had removed that file from my sd card and then it was just a matter of pressing the wrong button to tell it NO. :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbmg:
Ok, so you had a file named pc10img.zip on your sdcard, randomly? My phone will only want to update if I have a file named pc10img.zip on the sdcard, otherwise it just skips through.

It updated to whatever that file name was, that would help to know. Did you have the dz boot on your phone?