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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schumia:
How to know that I'm rcving call on 4G data using SipDroid ?

I just want to thank everyone for such an incredibly useful and may I say "long" thread =)... I'm a new converter from the old style non-smart phone and am following the advice verbatim; so far so good, except the VOIP calls using SIPDroid, the listeners say they quite frequently can't make out what I'm saying.. perhaps it's my Wifi speed at home being too slow..

There're a couple of things I'd like to solicit additional help as I'm not exactly clear:

1. I just put in $30 for the month4G refill 2 days ago and still have about $20 left in the balance (It's a $50 refill card). If I want to forward my number to Google Voice tomorrow to maximize the benefit of "one number for all calls" as suggested in these posts, what will happen to my balance in the T-mobile account? Since the balance is associated with my phone number, if the phone number no longer belongs to T-mobile (because i ported to GV), will all that credit just go to waste? Is there anyway to reclaim the credit in the account?

Or should I just wait until I exhaust all the $50 balance before I do the porting?

2. A lot has been talked about using SIPDroid to make and receive calls using "Data/Wifi," not the carrier minutes. I've tried receiving calls on Wifi with no problem, since in airplane mode, the wifi can be independently turned on and I know for certain the carrier radio is turned off (airplane mode). But say if I'm on the road driving using 4G data, since the carrier radio is on whenever 4G signal is running, how do I know any incoming calls received in SIPDroid is on "4G data," not "minutes?"

Again, thank you all for compiling this extremely educational thread and for your help!!

Jeff
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
If you are porting your existing TMo phone number with the minutes to GV, you will loose them and the phone number with TMo. You will need to get a new number and start over.

To know if a call comes in to SipDroid vs native cell number, set different ring tones for each and that sound will tell you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
Unfortunately I've had to give up on VoIP.ms with CsipSimple. Even on WiFi I was getting the cut out issues and even still after trying the settings on the previous page or two.

What I'd like to do is just use my tmo minutes by having all my calls forwarded to my tmo number (from my g voice number) as many of u do.

I have a SIP account with pbxes and what I'd like to do is use the native dialer with its SIP integration to make and receive calls ONLY when on WiFi. Once I'm off wifi I want all calls to be made from my phone from Google voice and received through my tmo number with voice forwarding.

Is this possible since the native SIP integration doesn't have an option to "use only on WiFi?"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] morganblackstone:
Question: trying to set this up..only deal breaker is the prompt when I answer an incoming call...it says press 1 to answer or press 2 to send voicemail...any help on how to bypass this and just answer when I pick up the phone??

Edit: I am using sipdroid with my pbxs account hooked to my gv account
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thedudejdog:
Turn off call screening in gv settings?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] morganblackstone:
Did that already. Now it says to press 1 to confirm that I am not a voicemail service

Edit: had to uncheck my telephone number and ONLY check my Google chat account. Hope this can help anyone in the future
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Scooter30:
Wish I could do this. Where I live T-mobile is terrible,no 3g let alone 4g.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
WOW. I spoke too soon. It worked for just that day. And now no longer works..Whats the deal??!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
You can do this using Tasker with the SecureSettings plugin. Use it to create a profile to toggle the built-in SIP client options when you're connected to wifi.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
Wow, awesome, thanks codesplice!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsuda:
If you are using Pbxes, why not use the SipDroid client and configure the account to use WLAN only. This way SIPdroid will not be active when you are on 3G.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] livejamie:
Has anybody tested the quality of Spare Phone vs MagicJack vs Talkatone Premium?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.guidology.sparephone

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.magicjack

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.talkatone.android

Skype is $60 a year but if's significantly better than the above 3 I wouldn't mind using it.

Or if I'm missing something let me know.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I've tested SparePhone and Talkatone, but not MagicJack. Of the two, I think that SparePhone has the better voice quality but is more susceptible to flaky connections. Talkatone compresses the voice a bit so it sounds more tinny/metallic, but I found it to maintain a more reliable connection.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
Yee ha! Thanks (button done). I was toying with trying Straight Talk AT&T to see if I get better coverage in my rural area, since my T-Mo number does roam (voice and EDGE data) in the local area, and my AT&T friends see TMo roaming too.

We went out to a remote trail building worksite in the backcountry Monday, first time out there with the GNex and TMo prepaid, and I had both voice and Edge data, while my AT&T contract friends had trouble getting signal. On my old Sprint service, I had to set my phone on airplane or my battery would die in four hours of searching for signal. I knew I could climb to a high point for an emergency call only.

Monday, my GNex came out with plenty of battery, one GV voicemail, and gmail, tapatalk, twitter, craigslist notifications just fine. I never used the phone during the six hours out there, but am very pleased.

Hey CallingMart, here comes more money for minutes! :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] livejamie:
I assume you didn't pay for Talkatone premium? I wonder if that would have helped.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I actually did pay for Talkatone premium, largely for the feature that would automatically toggle my Google Voice forwarding settings. Not worth it, by the way - their app really sucks at that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
Calling voip.ms / CSipSimple users!!!

Anyone have a working Google Voice + csipsimple + voip.ms setup? I can make calls all day through csipsimple/voip.ms but I cannot receive calls. The calling phone just gets 30 rings then my Google voice voicemail. Here is my setup...

Google Voice, forwarding calls to my voip.ms DID

voip.ms DID, with a subaccount setup that is attached to voip.ms DID

csipsimple nightly

I have voip.ms failovers setup:

Destination unreachable - forward to T-Mobile cell #

Destination no answer - forward to T-Mobile cell # after 14sec/3rings

I get no calls on wifi or 3g, very strange. I tried enabling STUN, etc. I can see voip.ms has csipsimple registered, just not ringing my phone.

Any ideas? Thanks

justin
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
Starting with the simple question. Is CSipSimple setup for receiving calls or only for outbound calls?

Another thing. (I can't view the configuration page as I don't have a DID setup with voip.ms so bare with me on this next part). Remove all of the "destination unreachable/no answer items and have it only listed to forward to your CSipSimple registration. See if that works, then you can slowly add back destination unreachable stuff. Also make sure it is set to a lot of rings as I remember losing ~10-14 seconds during the time it takes from GV->VOIP->CSipSimple. OH! It might be the "14sec/3rings" Set that higher to 5 rings.

See if that helps at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ronaldo Forenucci:
Guys, just for my general knowledge if I ever decide to save $15 in the future:

I'm on Straight Talk AT&T now. I have a GNex and Nexus 7. I have GV installed on both, along with GrooveIP on the "7". I have GV setup to handle everything on the phone (always use GV/Receive Texts in GV), The VoiceMail is set to GV, and my GV number shows up in the Forwarding section. On the GV website, I have all calls forwarded to GTalk and the StarightTalk number. I never even touched any StraightTalk voicemail stuff...don't even know if they have it, or how to get to it, LOL. Everything works: All calls show GV, all texts show GV (from the GV app), calls to both my GV number and the StraightTalk number ring GV on the phone, and unanswered calls to either number go to GV. Both the phone and tablet ring at the same time. All works on either WiFi or the StraightTalk data connection when out and about. What is it about TMo that requires this CSIP stuff and disabling WiFi, etc...? I don't even need GrooveIP on the phone...I just have it on the tablet so I can use it as a phone. Is StraightTalk that different?

Thanks,

RF
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
No differences in how things work carriers (aside from only having 100 minutes to play with on T-Mobile); the difference is in how complicated folks want their VoIP setup to be ;). GrooveIP generally works okay out of the box, but some are able to get better voice quality or reliability from one of the other VoIP setups.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KevinAlbrecht:
Question on data usage

Hey,

I burned through a GB of data in like three days, with AutoAP installed and I have mostly been WiFi areas. When I look at the data usage, it shows 800+ MB for GOO Manager. I am running Paranoid Android and did get the latest update through this Goo Manager, but I (thought) I was downloading through Wifi. Even so, 800MB seems like a whole Lot, no?

I dont mind so much that I need to buy more (this is a testing phone<Infuse>), but I want to understand why.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
You're showing the Wifi data usage there. You need to turn off Airplane mode, then you'll see the tabs for Mobile Data vs Wifi.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KevinAlbrecht:
Thanks for that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
Question about this plan. Im thinking about going ST but this 30$ monthly plan seems alot more feasible. All I need to do is get a phone, get the plan, create a google voice number and just let talkatone to connect to that google voice number and im all set? So if im sitting home on wifi I get a call through wifi, and if I get a call while im out on 4g it goes through 4g and eats the data? Its that simple?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phychmasher:
Almost! When you are out, you will use your 100 minutes and not data. You can TRY to use your data, but you'll probably find that the connection is so poor that it's quite unusable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
Oh okay cool. Seems easy. I still don't know if I like the notion of having a new google voice cell number.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
you can always port your existing number to Google voice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
Is that a pain in the neck or is it easy to do that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Haven't done it personally but it should be fairly straight forward. I think there may be some info on it in the FAQ towards the start of this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] linkmaster_6:
So I have two problems. I couldn't find it in the forum. I noticed two things. One calls dont allways connect on pbxes.org. Two calls dont allways connect to my phone with any sip app even if its registered with pbxes.org. Can someone help me try to figure out whats going on. These two problems are making me miss alot of calls and I cant afford that at all
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
It's quite easy, cost is $20 to Google and 24 hours to port. You may have text message disruption for 72 hours (receiving side, sending was OK for me), but no phone call disruption.

One other thing you may have missed is that both your VoIP program (Talkatone) and your phone will ring simultaneously, unless you use one of the apps to toggle airplane mode automatically. Talkatone Premium also supposedly has a feature that works by changing a setting on Google Voice server-side.

But If you're on iPhone, this might not be good for you since I don't believe any iPhone supports T-Mobile's 3G and HSPA bands.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
Ill be using an International S3. Im thinking of just going through ST to avoid all of this trouble and extra steps :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rafa3L:
Similar experience with ATT and Sprint at work inside a building. T-Mobile is reliable on Edge and makes my battery last MUCH longer than both ATT and Sprint which struggle to maintain any signal. It is nice not having to worry about battery completely draining. I'm using T-Mobile SIM via Straight Talk.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
There are a lot of variables in play; it's hard to say exactly where your calls are failing to be connected. If you log on to your account at PBXes.org and access the Call Monitor tab, do you see entries for the calls that you failed to receive? Ideally, you should see two entries for each call: one for it being received (from the gtalk trunk), and one for it being forwarded to your sipdroid extension ("ext-local", as listed under the Context column). Confirming this will make sure that at least the PBXes.org-related routing is functioning correctly.

From there, it's time to troubleshoot your SIP app. Which one are you using? Do you have any entry for a STUN server, which may help to overcome the difficulties introduced by NAT? You may also want to adjust the settings which govern how frequently the client polls the server. I've migrated away from using any VoIP solution lately, so I'm afraid I can't be much more specific than that... but this should at least (hopefully) get you looking at the right places.

Report back and maybe someone else can pick up my slack.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] linkmaster_6:
Well I think I figured out whats going on. I think on android cellular data shuts down and I get deregeistered with Pbxes.org in a strange way. To pbxes it looks like my phone is still registered and it rings the extension . However when it rings the extension nothing happens on my phone. I have tried both sipdroid and csipsimple and both have this same problem. I have also treied using simon telephonics gateway as a trunk and the same problem happens.I have also used simon telephonics gateway directly and it still happens. I also noticed this happens only on 3G and sometimes on WIFI and when I dont turn on the screen on my phone or use it for about an hour. When I do use my phone it still will not ring untill I deregister then reregister. I have tried useing a STUN server and it did not help and I have tried useing just TCP and just UDP and it did not help. I have tried increasing and decraseing the timeout values and it does not seem to help. So I figure it is one of two possibilities. One there is some strange networking issue useing T-Mobile. Two the android system cuts off or drasticly reduces network traffic when it goes into a lower power state.

TDLR: Phone still looks like its registered on Pbxes.org, Extension gets rung but cell phone doesnt ring, Tried switching to simon telephoics gateway. Phone still wont ring. Only happens when phone is asleep for about an hour. Please help
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
You are correct that on the Galaxy Nexus, WiFi goes into a low power state when the screen is off, and I believe some people reported missing calls because of that. I suggest you run WiFi High Performance widget when on WiFi. I used it all the time and it works. I didn't even notice any negative effect on battery life (actually battery life was better because I'd be in airplane mode all the time).

Good luck.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] linkmaster_6:
I need a Wifi high performance for mobile data too. Is there anything anyone can recommend?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
The best I can recommend is that you don't rely fully upon VoIP while you're away from wifi. There are too many variables that go into play. I'd suggest you let Google Voice forward calls to your cellular number while you're out and about. You can still use VoIP to place any calls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellroy80:
codesplice, thankyou for this excellent guide! I've been reading up about this $30 plan and ways to make it stretch a little further, but I think yours is the only one that spells it out concisely. However, I have some questions, predominantly related to canceling my contract, and making/receiving international calls. Hopefully yourself or someone else can answer them for me.

1) I am currently with Sprint on their unlimited everything plan, but my contract is up so I'm looking to make the switch to the $30 T-mobile pre-paid + a Nexus 4. I already have a Google Voice number and use it for voicemail, sms etc. Will I be able to keep this number when I cancel my Sprint contract? The number was enabled by Sprint - does this change anything? I assume that I should wait until my T-mobile card is activated before canceling my contract?

2) I make very few calls within the US. However, I'm originally from Australia and have family back there, so I call them/they call me on a semi-regular basis. My calls currently go via Google Voice and I pay the low international rate associated with that, both via WiFi and over 3G. Will this be the same if I convert to using Talkatone or sipdroid? Will it count toward my 100 minutes if I call them or they call me? What if the calls are made (either me to them, or them to me) while on 3G?

Thanks in advance for any help! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vanhoud:
Yes you can transfer your sprint number to Tmobile. You don't even have to contact sprint to cancel anything, as soon as tmobile starts to transfer your number your sprint account will be automatically canceled.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] c0LdFire:
Alright, I'll add a disclaimer that I'm aware that this increases the price when we're trying to stay cheap, and I'm sure it's been discussed before, but...

Who all has tried Skype as a VoIP solution? I tried a test call over 2 bars of EDGE and, while a tad choppy, it was... perfectly acceptable. 3g/4g sounded better then normal cell calls. It was pretty darn impressive. Granted, I'd still stick to using it over WiFi, but the reason I gave up on VoIP is because of the delays GrooveIP and other solutions gave me. Skype seems to have figured it all out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] manifest3r:
I was using Skype for a while, and it is a really viable solution for $8 for there months, unlimited called to anywhere in the nation.

The issue is that nobody gets a call back number, no voicemail (I think that costs extra), and the Skype app drains the battery like crazy. I've been using SipDroid on 3g and it has been working better than Skype and hasn't drained my battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellroy80:
I wasn't planning to port my number to T-mobile though. I'll just have all my calls go via Google Voice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] q711179:
I have tried both Skype and Vox, if you prefer this kind of service I would suggest Vox as it burns far less battery for comparable call quality. Customer service has also been excellent for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] scottmog:
got a quick question. I got a padfone just last week and I'm using t mobile. how is the call quality on edge? is it bearable?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
1) Not sure. I would like to say that you already have Google Voice service so nothing needs to be done, but I don't know what Sprint's involvement is.

2) As far as I know, yes. Those rates are offered by GV, not by Sprint. For example, GV gives me free calling to US and Canada.

The 100 minutes will be used whenever you call or pickup without using a VoIP program (Talkatone, SipDroid, etc.). Whether or not you want to run VoIP over 3G is your choice.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
So in addition to not getting calls while not on wifi through google voice to my tmobile phone it appears over wifi through sipdroid calls don't always come through. Although I suspect when that happened earlier today I didnt have the wifi performance app thing on so it dodged the call.

Also People still get my voicemail when not on wifi. I have gone through every setting (on my prior posts). Is my only last resort to just remove google voice (I had previously uninstalled the app/reinstalled) from the phone and/or create a new pbxes.org account? Im not sure why pbxes org would cause the calls to go to my voicemail settings when not on wifi but I am out of ideas. Also the problem when I try and remove the phone from google voice it says I need a phone line to connect gvoice to (which I dont have another number)..

Hope that post makes sense, sorry this issue is on going and the last thing I need to worry about right now... awwww
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smiert:
Just noticed the "New Customers Only" requirement after a few days of eyeing the plan.

I currently have a cheapo-unlocked GSM phone running on a $15 unlimited text prepaid T-Mobile plan. I'm very very interested in buying the Nexus 4 when it comes out (4 more days!), but I would hate to be restricted to only using wifi.

Do I have any options here.. while preferably keeping my number?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] j8048188:
T-Mo offers other prepaid plans, including ones with more minutes. The one problem is the price is more. You can check out the complete list here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Generally you can qualify as a "new customer" as long as you get a new SIM card + activation kit and don't try to keep the same number (not a problem if you're using Google Voice). I actually started on the $70/mo unlimited/unlimited/5GB plan for about 20 days and then activated a new line with the $30/mo plan without any problems.

BONUS! I updated the OP a bit. Not really any new information, but changed the formatting to hide all the complicated VoIP/Tasker stuff for folks who aren't quite as brave.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Oh snap! Another update for the OP: turns out that T-Mobile recently (well, in October) updated their My Account app and it oddly enough doesn't suck very hard. Includes a handy set of widgets for monitoring your usage; much easier to configure than the Prepaid Widget I was previously recommending.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] throwback1718:
I have done all of the steps in the OP for the sipdroid with PBXes.org

everytime I try to dial out I get some message saying that the call couldnt be completed as dialed.

Is there more that needs to be done outside of the instructions in the original post?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Are you able to receive calls via SipDroid (to confirm that the routing through google talk is functioning correctly)? Also, what information does the log on PBXes.org reveal?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] throwback1718:
well I just called my GV number from my house phone and it goes through... is that because of sipdroid or GVoice?

(Meaning, would calls still come through even without any VoIP app?)

and what specific information are you reffering to on the PBXes site?

I looked in my call monitor history and no sign of the incoming call that I received
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
Yes, the call comes through to your phone through GVoice, even without any VoIP app. This uses your carrier minutes.

If it arrives on Sipdroid, you will see a different incoming call screen than usual. (actually you will see 2 screens, native and voip).

It sounds like you're not configured properly. Strange, it should be fairly automatic. First thing is to make sure you entered your password correctly. There are two passwords: the 1st is your pbxes.org password (which you enter into the Sipdroid app; it's also your login to the pbxes.org website). The 2nd is your Google account password which you can only configure once logged into the pbxes.org website.

EDIT:

Also, do you see Sipdroid in the notification menu saying it's connected?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] throwback1718:
This is what i see in my notification

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

I followed all the instructions in the original post.

My Google voice password and pbxes password are the same

Same email address.

Does the -200 at the end of my email address cause this issue you think? Or is that the norm?