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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
I downloaded and played Angry Birds (Space) on my GN and One X. Playing the game on the One X and going out to browse the web, check my calender and go back would have the game restart.So I did the same for the Galaxy Nexus. I noticed after playing the game, going to the calender, email, loading a page the game did the same thing. It restarts. Every time I did it the Galaxy Nexus did and does the exact same thing the One X does.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
That's possible. I haven't tried it with space. I only tried Rio and vanilla Angry Birds. Space may either take up a lot more memory or simply not be coded to save state.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
Would you mind trying Google Chrome and Pulse news reader in your testing? Do you use any widgets?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
I agree multitasking is a joke.. no wonder why the great battery life
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
I've found that the Bbock9's method (in Developer Options) did nothing for me, but the AutoKiller tweaks have significantly improved my multitasking.

If you haven't tried AutoKiller, do it. Right now. Set your "Hidden app," "Content provider," and "Empty app" to 20, 22, and 24 respectively. I SAID DO IT NOW! :eek:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
Just tried it, did nothing for me :(

To test I went to mail, opened up a message and let the images load. Opened the browser, used multitasking button to get back to mail and it had to reload my mail message again, used multitasking to get back to the browser and the browser had to reload again.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
I use htc clock with weather and calender. I actually typed part of this then opened facebook Twitter instgram pulse chrome while gmusic is running, chrome has to reload but pulse twitter instgram facebook goes back where It was and I keep leaving the xda app while typing this and it keeps going back where I was when typing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
Hrm... you made sure to click Apply, right? For my own piece of mind, would you try rebooting? When the phone boots back up, watch the screen for the "AutoKiller has been granted root privileges" message. If you don't see that, something's not working right. Also after the reboot, go into AutoKiller and check that the 20/22/24 settings are still in place. I've definitely run the exact same test as you, but my webpage doesn't need to reload, it's just there.

Crap, I thought I had a decent solution for us all. Sorry gang.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] co.ag.2005:
seems to be working a little better with this app. XDA isn't reloaded every time I switch away from it. I'll keep doing testing today and see if it truly is helping out.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BBock9:
Developer options method definitely seems to be a temporary fix.. mine has reverted back to reloading most apps. At least we know it's just the implementation of multitasking that will either be fixed by an ota or devs. I guess I'll just have to deal with it for now, it is an inconvenience but I can live with it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
I even removed all widgets, uninstalled chrome, and made it so I had one home screen..

Multitasked a little better, but at 4 apps. Pulse, Internet, Dropbox, ESPN score center. It started having to reload things.

I am still not positive if it is the HTC One X. Some people claim the Galaxy Nexus doesn't do this some claim it does. Some think Android always reloads the browser some think it doesn't.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] paz2005:
I have this problem, too, and it's really annoying.

I switched from an iPhone (after having some version of it or another for the past 5 years); and even my iPhone 4, with half the amount of memory, didn't have to reload every app and was even able to keep 3-4 browser tabs open w/out reload.

I am about ready to switch back.!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
Just like some people claimed certain roms ran "smooth" on the G1. haha. but yea definitely a lot of mixed responses/reactions. i'm pretty confident though that this is going to be something that can fixed with either an ota or the devs or some combination of tweaking...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Or just unlock the damn bootloader so I can install my own ROM and Kernel already!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
You all realize that this is just memory management right? Best way to check is reboot your phone and then try multitasking. It will work much better than if you try a day or two later.

I just think the memory to show the fancy app switcher on Sense can't help. My Nexus does not always refresh apps including the browser and I've noticed this behavior too before this thread was posted. Its something to do with the amount of memory Sense is using and their memory management settings.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
Once you receive any phone you should factory reset it because nothing ever load properly from factory, I have done this with every iPhone and android. That's probably why half of people are having problems and others weren't with galaxy nexus. Also why I'm not having a problem.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
Agreed.

When you unlock, it resets to factory default... so I didn't manually do a reset, but my device was reset when I unlocked, and instantly I had better SMS notifications and push email. Actually, I don't think I've had the SMS notification bug occur at all since I unlocked.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] onthezone:
Nor have I had any problems with the sms bug, when I first received my phone it was doa and was so excited and forgot to reset and my phone would not open xda or nav and had to setup my phone again but was worth it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jeffreii:
Bugs like this are keeping me from switching to Android and the One X...my 2+ year old BlackBerry Torch 9800 has no problems like this with multitasking...and it's an ancient BB OS 6! Even a web page from weeks ago opens with no reload - exact same spot.

I hope HTC is quick to address the numerous BIG bugs...wifi, multitasking, sms, etc...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] designgears:
Not true, I am running a deodexed tweaked rom right now! ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wrxdrunkie:
So it does look like even the galaxy nexus does this. The added weight by Sense probably just makes it that much worse.

You will see in this review of the Galaxy Nexus the reviewer makes not of this around the 6:15 mark.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tian105:
only 300mb of ram is all we have available...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
As for how the Galaxy Nexus does the same thing as the One X. I had the same amount open on both devices. With this, I now know the One X handles games the same and no different than the Galaxy Nexus. I also never had a problem with my Nexus doing this. And will not have a problem with my One X doing the exact same thing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
Maybe with different games it will do different. I have a bunch of games so I could try it. But from what I'm seeing I dont see this being a problem.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Okay, well you've inspired me (not being sarcastic). I'm going to switch back to my HOX until this weekend and try to see if I can deal with it or if it bothers me as bad as I remember. Maybe it was just the apps I tried. My GN works great for me, but I love hardware of the HOX. Really wanted to make it work.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
For whatever it's worth, it's not just first-party IM apps that have priority. I am using IMO Beta, and haven't had any issues with it. It does seem to occasionally get killed and re-start, and when it happens I'll get a duplicate notification, but other than that, it runs pretty seamlessly.

I can't tell you why it's the case, just that it is. Maybe because IMO keeps sessions in sync across multiple platforms (iOS, Android, web browsers, etc.)? Or maybe IMO is just coded differently and is either treated differently by the OS or handles being shutdown better?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
haha. I agree that the hardware is nice. The S4 processor has power and helps give good battery life.

The multitask feature is not as bad as some say. I don't know if the way it works is why the battery can last as long as it does with a thin battery but I like the extra battery life. The One X is not perfect of course. I do think we each need to see if the pros outweigh the cons. There will always be better devices as time goes on. This device if I keep it will hold its own for a while for sure. For $199 or less with contract it's not bad. I'm sure any 32GB high end Android device comes it will not be $199 with contract but $299.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
$199? Pfft. I paid $600 for this phone. All of my phones are off-contract. THat's why I bought the Gnex. It was a steal at $400.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
i'd pay $299 for this phone if the multitasking worked. but it doesn't. so screw it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] RyanPost22:
Interesting. Thanks for the tip. I will run the experiment tomorrow with IMO Beta and see what happens. I'll post the results here. This could at least be a stop-gap.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
I said with contract.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
The 32GB high end devices can be about $650-$750 without contract. So getting the LTE One X at $550 before tax is good to me. Because it would have been more if it had more storage.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
I tried Shadow Gun on the Galaxy Nexus. It also does the same thing as the One X. I think I'm done testing this device for a little while.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chelseainspire:
I can confirm that the game fragger does not close when you leave it for a while and then come back to it. It doesn't even bring you to the pause menu, it just freezes it till you come back using the recent apps button....if only all games/apps acted like that! It's free on the amazon appstore incase you wanted it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
Sure thing. I'd love to know if it works any better.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
I know. I was just saying that I'd love to pay that price. I always have to pay off-contract because my company pays my phone bill.

---------- Post added at 12:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 AM ----------

Not sure what you're doing differently, but I just loaded e-mail, google Talk, and Angry Birds Space. Multitasked to e-mail then back to Angry Birds Space and it completely reloaded from scratch. Those are the only programs I had in memory. When I went back to Talk, it had logged me out and had to reload.

Did the same thing on the Gnex after loading a web page in the browser and Angry Birds Space resumed right where I left it, but paused. Looking at my open apps on the Gnex, I had 7 more apps open from earlier today.

I just can't do it. The One X is just not going to work for me like this. I'm glad it's working okay for some people, but I don't know how anyone can stand a phone that closes everything so quickly.

Update: I also tested out multitasking back and forth between the e-mail app and phone dialer, simulating what I did earlier with my GN. When I tried it on the One X, it nuked all fo the numbers I could type before I got the rest of them from the e-mail and continued typing. Those are two pretty simple, low memory apps that should not have been killed that quickly. How is this functional?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'd venture to guess that first time android users won't care because they won't know how it is supposed to work.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
"I don't know how anyone can stand a phone that closes everything so quickly"? I can stand it because it does not close everything so quickly.

I tried various music apps and games and it worked with those as it should. I only did what I did on the One X with the Galaxy Nexus. And the Nexus closed out the various games like on the One X.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
The phone sucks it can't multitask. You are happy move on. Let the big boys to take care of the fixing for you
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
haha. Actually if your NOT happy you should move on. I would move on if I didn't like the device.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
It's concerning that different people are reporting different behavior. All in all does not instill confidence in Sense or any of HTC's tweaks. When you consider how bad of a reputation AT&T has for issuing updates and the fact that the bootloader is locked, I simply can't buy this phone on a 2 year contract and feel okay about it. Wish that wasn't the case, as the hardware is simply awesome.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] c5satellite2:
Funny how my single core Inspire does a better job at multitasking.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
I just wanted to confirm (as I believe several others in this thread have) that Chrome does not actually use data to reload the page. Though I believe the process IS getting killed, there must be some caching going on behind the scenes, as I performed the following test and it (unexpectedly) worked:

1. Loaded The Verge in Chrome

2. Enabled Airplane mode

3. Went back to Chrome. Even though it LOOKED like it was re-loading The Verge, the page still came up - which it shouldn't, because there was no data access.

It seems (again as others have said) that certain Android apps are just better at maintaining their state than others. I guess we'll see how many devs bother to update their apps - I just wish Slacker Radio worked perfectly in the background :/
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pdubcramp:
Even if it isn't refreshing the page, it still starts you at the top again. So you lose your place regardless and that's the frustrating part.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phositadc:
I also have both and find it disturbing that different people get such different results. I don't play games but multitasking between xda, browser, Gmail, messaging, etc. works fine on gnex, whereas browser and xda constantly reloaded on one x. So my experience was more similar to greyhulk's.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phailyoor:
It's probably reloading the page from the cache. It's like how you can start the PC version of firefox from a cold boot, and it will load the previous pages from cache even if there is no internet access.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Maybe widgets? We have them and he doesn't? I have Friendstream and several others. We could be working with less memory.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] radeonxt:
it's not a joke! it's a feature! :D

htc already officially confirmed that!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] soapbubble:
So there probably isn't a chance they'll change it in a patch is there?

My last phone was a SGS2 which multitasked just fine, so I'm wondering if they unlock the bootloader will custom roms be able to fix the issue or is it a hardware thing? Probably a really stupid question. Are there any patches from rooting that help it out?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davidstech11:
This was the post I made before the one you quoted. I never meant the Galaxy Nexus will have web pages reload when I go back to it. It does not. However, I put how the Galaxy Nexus will when playing games it will do the exact same thing as the One X. And that's when you leave the game, go do something on another app and go back, the game will not be at the same spot on pause. It will restart as it does with the One X.

I put this and tested it because people said they played some games like Angry Birds and the One X would not hold the game in the multitask area. So I tested the Galaxy Nexus to see what it did with the same exact games.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] supercluver:
It's software, not hardware. The most recent update for the international one x apparently helps a lot with multitasking, so I'm hopefully we will see the same in an upcoming update. Until then rooting and disabling sense launcher and stuff like that does help quite a bit. If the bootloader gets unlocked then yes there will be custom ROMs and kernels which will also fix this issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
true dat.. With the bootloader unlocked I wont be complaining but it is Att. My last experience with ATT software was with HTC window mobile 6.5. XDA totally fixed my phone. The same with samsungs.. But now with bootloaders locked I dont know if I want to keep the phone.. Newbies or ex iphones users cant tell the difference..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] greyhulk:
Not true. Even the iPhone multitasks (or at least saves state) better than the One X.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] soapbubble:
Does it make it behave normally or is it just a few app improvement?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
Unfortunately, newbies and ex-iPhone users WILL notice that it sucks and is frustrating, and won't know that other Android phones are not the same. Then they'll go tell all their other iPhone-using friends how much Android sucks and the spreading of misinformation continues. :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
I'm still irked by their statement. The "enthusiast community"... Considering that all my family and friends ask me for phone advice, I can affect more than a few opinions, add that to all the other seemingly unimportant enthusiasts and they numbers grow a bit. And HTC needs all the customers they can get.

And now that the HTC One X and EVO aren't allowed to past customs at the moment, it's just looking ugly for HTC in the US.

All I wanna do is be able to scroll down my Facebook, be able to text someone, and go back to were I left off... Facebook shouldn't have to reload, neither should something as simple as angry birds...

And I used to have an iPhone forever ago (dark times)... Even it multitasks better..

rant over.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] calvin35:
I don't know if it is just me, but it seems that my multitasking is behaving considerable better tonight. I was able to watch 10 minutes of you tubeand then when I went back to my browser it didn't reload. Five minutes later I went back to YouTube and was able to resume where I left off. I just switched between the two apps without using the multitasking button. After typing this post I'm going back to check.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zeu569:
Could it be the HTC Task Manager app doing all this? It is by default set at auto start on boot, maybe unticking this and rebooting wont load it in memory and ICS will do its own memory management.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I heard back from htc a second time regarding multitasking. The press release was quoted word for word. In other words shut up slave. The phone is fine.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mgfjd:
Facebook reloading is happening not matter which phone. I just tried it with the skyrocket
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] fitchpuckman:
yeah i feel a little confused with the facebook comments regarding reloading, as facebook has always reloaded for me anytime i've had it open on any phone i've owned for as long as i can remember.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
Some apps are not coded right and will just do it. It receives notifications of when certain lifecycle events happen (leave/resume/etc.) and the app can choose to reload whatever it wants at that time, even if it's not necessary. MOST don't have this problem however.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
I think you may be on to something
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
I really don't even take advantage of multitasking on my phone too often, but just for ****s and giggles opened up 6 different apps (from weather radar to text message to website to news article). I flipped between all of them over a 10 min time frame and all of them held their state perfectly except for a News Republic article. This is perfectly fine for me. I certainly don't need an app held in state any more than 5 or 10 mins. I'm guessing this is htc's stance as well. I did untick the task manager "start at system start" settings option. I currently have almost 200mb memory free.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
On a Nexus running 4.0.4 it will sit happily in the background for quite some time. I've tested it myself.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
If it makes you feel any better, I'm an ex-iPhone user with no intention of doing that ;). When people ask me the phone, I've mentioned that HTC screwed with the multitasking and I'm looking forward to eventually putting something like CM9 on it, but for now, I'm really enjoying my phone and the functionality of Android. The multitasking doesn't really impact 90-95% of what I do...mostly just music streaming in the car.

Would I like it to be better? Yes. Do I plan to go back to iOS because of it? Not a chance.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] polarbearmc:
Well since I'm planning on returning the phone anyway I've got a full factory restore going right now... I'll test it out a little bit more once it's back up to make sure there's not some apps or something that are making the multitasking suck... But I'm guessing this thing is still going back this weekend. Already got my old MyTouch4g Slide all rooted and cleaned up ready to go haha.

edit: And after the restore it's roughly the same although I'll admit its a little better. Gmail doesn't seem to be reloading at all, and the browser isn't either (surprisingly since that does every time before), Google Maps keeps my search in but returns me to the map view instead of the directions view... The Play Store still reloads back to the beginning and so does the Calendar... However, on my MyTouch 4g Slide that I just turned back on, everything resumes... Even Angry Birds... Right from where I left off (holding home to bring up the recent apps list... which isn't even supposed to be as powerful as ICS Multitasking right?)... I think If I keep this phone I"ll just keep getting more and more pissed off.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I replied back after HTC telling me to just shut up it's working as intended that HTC timer quit in the background and the memory management is way too aggressive.

I doubt I get a response
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] supercluver:
I wouldn't go so far as to say it behaves normally, but for example I can use facebook, xda, gmail, twitter, text messaging or gtalk and flip back and forth between those without issue. So 4 or 5, maybe even 6 apps works fine. But I don't use the browser much, and I don't play any games, so anything more memory intensive would likely lower the number a bit.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
If you go back several pages, you will see where we already tried this...

It definitely helps to turn it off, but doesnt fix everything. The programs are not as quick to get killed, but the cache still gets cleared once a program goes inactive. Browser and maps aren't too bad because they save your last spot and just have to refresh, but streaming apps can get annoying.

Example: listening to Pandora and get a call. Call ends, Pandora has to reload because the moment it is not an active app it gets cleared (meaning when it is paused by the call it is deemed worthy of clearing), even though the app is still technically listed as running.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig0r:
Nope, tried this myself and didn't make a difference.