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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mongi104:
I didn't quite have the same scenario, but I did want the ability to start/stop sipdroid gracefully from an automation app (llama in my case). My solution was to add the capability to sipdroid itself. If you checkout trunk from sipdroid and build from source you'll get my update (rev626 - I'd post a link but apparently I haven't yet posted enough on these forums to get that privilege). You can then send broadcast intents to start stop the program. Another nice addition is starting this way will start sipdroid in the background so no "boring screen" at start-up.

broadcast "org.sipdroid.STOP_SIPDROID" to stop and "org.sipdroid.START_SIPDROID" to start.

I'd think the capability should be in the next release whenever Pascal gets around to building.

It's easy to send broadcast intents in llama, but with a quick search I didn't find how to do so in tasker. Looks like that's what's used for 3rd party plugin integration. tasker plugin could probably be made pretty easily by someone who cared to do so. I don't personally have tasker.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
It'd all work the same. You just have to be mindful of the SGSIII's frequencies and which carriers they'll work with.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Very good info, and something I will have to check out when I have the chance. As for using it with Tasker, there is a Send Intent action available under the Misc action menu.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
Understood. (Though I'm still not sure the difference between "intercept dial intent" and "prompt to complete calls" if they are both for outgoing... and if so, how would we disable incoming? :confused:)

Anyway, what you are saying is, even if I buy the premium version of GrooveIP which supposedly has the "excellent dialer integration", I would still have the problem of ringing twice on my phone? That's too bad.

I know Talkatone has the "wifi-only" option but that's not good enough given that I may be connecting to public wifi hotspots (such as the spotty hotel wifi I was on last week), which ends up being even less reliable than 4G. Is there a way to disable these VoIP programs on all except one or two known APs?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mongi104:
Good to know. I tested with the tasker trial and found that the sipdroid start/stop worked perfectly with misc->send intent. Just put the appropriate intent string eg. "org.sipdroid.START_SIPDROID" in the action field and leave everything else as default.

You'll of course need a sipdroid build which includes r626 to have the functionality.

Thanks for the awesome thread!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipole:
Any quick tutorials on how to compile this? I got the day off, mine as well learn something
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jgrinst1:
It worked for me too using Tasker. Thanks for the heads-up!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipole:
Nevermind, think I figured it out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mongi104:
Build environments can be a little tricky sometimes. I don't have much time to describe as I have to go play wedding photographer today, but here are some highlights for others who may want to give it a go.

Android SDK (search on how to install on your platform. I think you'll have to get the proper java installs as part of this.

within the sdk tools, download/setup platforms. I think I built against API 8 (Android 2.2?).

Checkout sipdroid source

Once checked out. Look at the BUILD.txt for the two magic lines to actually do the build.

If doing more development you may want to look at setting up an IDE like eclipse but this isn't necessary to build.

*Sorry for the lack of links. I don't have enough posts yet but google is your friend.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rowntreerob:
review - 2 months on prepaid with skype

I use tmobile $30 prepaid , skype online phone nbr ( $5 monthly ) in san fran. I recently purchased a new phone (gNexus) , online tmobi SIM-kit, dropped a tmobi $80 per month plan , cutting my bill from 80 to 35. I am happy with what i get at the lower price.

Initially, i looked at SIP ( groveIP ) and backed off in favor of skype ( reliable codecs on 3G wireless ).

I had some setup tmobi set issues that were not really the fault of T Mobile and that required a little bit of time and a visit to a tmobi retail store to sort thru. ( invalid sim activiation code included with the online kit prevented seamless online activation ).

My experience:

skype codecs and call quality are very good ( wifi and 3G ). No lag and i always hear them and they always hear me.

skype is not a great app for android - UE issues do not get addressed in timely fashion

skype ringer volume for inbound calls is USELESS. i rarely hear the ringer and can not do volume +.

GV - skype integration in general and forwarding handoffs / message box are not great

skype integration / android dialer is good

Biggest issue is message box.

My inbound call rule is GV-to-Skype, skype will ring 15 seconds and 'forward'. In a perfect world , all missed calls wind up on GV/Gmail messages.

After 2 months of trying to smooth it out. I still have to check 3 places for messages ( GV, skype, Tmobi voice msgs ). For inbound calls direct to my prepaid tmoblie number, GV does not support pre-empting the carriers voicemail. I believe that is standard policy on prepaid. So i have to check tmobi v-msgs. Then, there is some issue regarding the skype background service on android 4.1.1 where at random times , the service gets closed and you will hear that skype sound-effect of the client going away??? I have skype app for android configured to 'never go offline' but, it still does at random intervals. When skype background service is running , all is fine with voice msgs ( they get forwarded to GV which is what i want ). At other times this forwarding fails and the v-msgs get stuck in skype. I cant figure it out , but my guess is that the reason it fails is because the skype service dies and then can not adhere to the forward policy where the call rings 15 seconds and forwards to GV.

At the end of my 3-month term with the skype online number, i will probably try GrooveIP or SIP/pbx.org.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Whyzor:
The above needs a slight correction. According to snrb (dev of Groove IP) and thier webpage's FAQ:

So GSM or Speex support has to be updated by Google or using a proxy (like Talkatone). PBXes.org uses their own intermediate server, which allows more efficient codecs too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krazykeyur:
I got my data from Google Talk's developer page : https://developers.google.com/talk/open_communications

Not sure what those GrooveIP folks are smoking..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pdxtechdoctor:
That reference may only be for between google talk clients and not between google talk and the POTS network
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jedi_Richtor:
I didn't see it mentioned when I searched the thread, but AutoAir is a good way to toggle the airplane mode when on Wifi. It's free and worked well without a ton of setup. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=Com.YangSoft.AutoAir
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipole:
In general, how does one find these "broadcast intents" for other apps? I can see that being very useful...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
In the past I've used PackageExplorer, but it hasn't been updated since January of 2011. It's ugly, and (at least on my GNex) I can only get it to display system apps.

I just stumbled upon ManifestViewer which is prettier and seems to work just as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrslax:
Has anyone compared the prepaid speed to the post paid ones?

My friends t-mobile post paid galaxy s2 speed test are almost always faster than mine on the pre paid 5GB plan.

I'm not sure if its the phone or t-mobile has a higher preference towards post paid.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor79:
I've ordered all the parts I need

T-mobile SIM Activation Kit

Galaxy Nexus (from Play store + Case from Amazon)

Going to pick up the prepaid $30/100 minute kit from Walmart when I get everything here.

Should be getting the Activation Kit and Case today...the phone I ordered yesterday morning and there's still no word of it shipping.

Trying to get this all done under my current month of service...which ends on the 22nd.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pdxtechdoctor:
Tmobile Galaxy S2 has a HSDPA, 42 Mbps radio... our GNex phones only have a HSDPA, 21 Mbps radio.. in areas that support the higher speed you will see a difference between the two..

On the same phones, the speed should be similar between post and pre paid
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
There really shouldn't be any difference. For what it's worth, my fiance is on the 2GB postpaid plan with a GSII and our data speeds are typically pretty damn close.

Good luck! I'm not sure I've read many reports of folks getting the plan directly through Walmart in-store without having to buy a burner phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
That would do it. I don't believe there's 42Mbps service around me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Good info. I'm thinking that using a more integrated service (GrooveIP/Talkatone/PBXes.org) to directly tie into your Google Voice should make things a bit less scattered. It would be even better if you could ditch the carrier number altogether, but I understand that may not be feasible.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor79:
Hmm...think it would help to bring the phone and the activation kit with me?

I did this once before with a Monthly4G plan. I was trying to get one of my old Nexus S phones setup with basic service in order to have an extra phone while I was working through switching to sprint (at the time I was looking for work so I was getting a lot of calls from recruiters). I went to a local T-Mobile store and asked to activate the phone with basic service...they provided the sim activation kit and the Monthly 4G plan..no burner required. I would think providing your own phone would negate any need for a burner...and especially if you have a sim to go with it. But maybe Walmart is different.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Wait, if you have the phone and SIM + Activation Kit, you have no reason to go to a store. Just activate it online at www.T-Mobile.com/PrepaidActivation. No need to make it complicated - sorry I didn't catch that earlier!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor79:
Ah ok cool...I thought you had to get an activation card for the plan or something...that makes much more sense. Thank you!

edit: GNex on it's way...should be here by Friday if it's 2 day shipping. Got the tracking number just after midnight this morning and it's still not showing up in UPS's system at 9am.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Slight update made on the OP; a beta version of Tasker is no longer required as version 1.3 was pushed to the Play Store today.

Go get it!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krazykeyur:
krazykeyur

Annoying sipdroid bug.

While at work, I'm listening to music most of the time through headphones. Whenever a call comes in, the ringtone + music get directed to the speaker..and I have to go crazy and pick up/reject phone quickly in order to make the music play through headphones again. After picking up phone, music keeps on playing and I can hear it while talking to the caller. Caller doesnt hear it.. so that's good.

Maybe it's just the tunein app.. havent tested this with any other music app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Paul22000:
I'm on a T-Mobile contract nearing the end. The ETF is currently at $100 but with a drop from $60 to $30 for the monthly plan, I'll recoup the difference in a few months.

How can I make the switch? Do I need to purchase a new SIM or can I use my current one?

I don't care about the phone number since I use Google Voice exclusively.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Depends on the plan. If you are going for the $30 plan that seems to be most popular, a take note its for new customers/plans so you will need to order a new sim..

If not, I am not sure on if you need a new sim to change to the prepaid plan- hopefully someone will chime in. I would guess you need to order a new sim (only 99 cents) but im not 100%
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigdoug2005:
Does anyone else have the issue where the cell service wont reconnect after you leave WiFi coverage and airplane mode disables? Sometimes I will check my phone and realize it has no cell connection after leaving the house for a while. That and the fact that T-Mobile coverage leaves me with no service or Edge where I used to have no problem getting 3G with AT&T is making me think about moving to Straight Talk AT&T prepaid. I am in Raleigh, NC so I should have great coverage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor79:
My understanding is that the $30/100 minute plan is only available to new activations...so I guess you would need to get a new sim and phone number in order to be eligible to get that plan, even if you're already on T-Mobile and already have one of their sims.

In my case I can't (and wouldn't anyway) port my number to T-Mobile to be eligible for that plan as they probably still have a record of my number as being a former T-Mobile number. Since I'm going to be porting it to Google Voice instead and just getting a throw away number from the sim activation...then it should be no problem for me to get the plan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DragonMan2010:
Mackenzie

I just bought the activation Kit from T-Mobile online and a Galaxy Nexus phone from the play store and I had no problems getting the 30.00 plan
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I don't know for sure, but I would agree with both of them. And for $.99, might as well get a new SIM anyway :)

And yes, a great opportunity to go ahead and port your number to Google Voice!

I know I (and a handful of other folks) had that issue on Android 4.0.4 - the infamous 404 data drop problem. Usually manually toggling airplane mode should clear it up.

As for coverage, make sure you're comparing prepaid to prepaid coverage - though it's my understanding that Straight Talk on AT&T does have at least some roaming capability. I guess it really depends on if you use more minutes or megabytes as to which plan to choose. The freedom is nice though, eh?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Yep, that seems to be the standard method of operation - it's definitely the easiest, assuming you don't run into the famed activation issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] housry23:
I had T-Mobile a couple years ago and had no service just about everywhere where I live. I bought an unlocked galaxy nexus off a guy that went to Google io. Since the SIM is only a dollar I figured I'd give T-Mobile another shot and see if they've improved since before. It has. I have a signal everywhere and not just a signal, but a great connection. Even inside my house which is something Verizon and Sprint could not deliver. Went ahead and ported my Verizon number and activated the $30 plan and couldn't be more satisfied. This is the way to go. If I ever think I need more minutes, I'll just load $10-$15 on my account. If it ever starts costing me more than $45 a month I'll go to Straight Talk. Thanks to this thread & the pan your cell service thread for the inspiration Ann's motivation to do the math and figure out just how much i could save. I will have saved enough to buy a new phone quickly even after paying the etf. As soon as the next unlocked Nexus comes out, I'll buy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] karnovaran:
I'm doing this too. Did you call T-mobile to port the Verizon number or was it done online?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
If you're going to be porting a number, I'd highly recommend porting it to Google Voice - it'll be the last time you have to port a number.

If you're looking to port directly into T-Mobile though:

source: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-support-activate#more

There may have been an option during the online activation process to port the number (I know there was when I activate my fiance's T-Mobile postpaid line), but it's been too long that I can't remember.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DustyFarts:
So much love in this room..

I couldn't agree more..this has got to be gold for tmobile. From reading this topic from the first page to the last. the information and help from all the members here is OUTSTANDING..thank to all that have added your experience and knowledge to us all..and myself a new comer..

thank you guys
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rafa3L:
I ported from Sprint yesterday. I didn't have a T-Mobile account. I tried to activate and port at Tmobile.com but I never saw the option to keep your number. So I called customer service and got to the porting dept. He offered to do it for me.. we started the process and at the end he asked which plan I wanted. I told him the $30 100min monthly 4g. He didn't have access to add it so he put me on a pay as you go plan. He transferred me to normal customer service to switch to the monthly 4g. Customer service said it was only offered to new activations via Walmart. I asked for a supervisor who tried to say the same thing. I re explained the situation that I was a new activation approx 2 minutes ago and T-Mobile.com offers the plan but doesn't offer porting. He put me on a brief hold and was able to change my plan from pay as you go to monthly 4g.

I wonder if it would be easier to activate online with a NEW phone number then call the porting dept to port your number. I would suggest calling and asking.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaybeeunix:
That's what I did. I used the new, "temporary" number for a few days to make sure T-Mobile service would work for me before calling to port my VZW number.

FWIW, they told me you can call "T-Mobile Number Transfers and Porting" directly at 1-877-789-3106 M-F 8am - Midnight, Sa-Su 8am - 10pm Eastern Time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] urinsane:
Agreed. Activate the new account ONLINE with a new T-Mobile number first, then call and have them port. It took me less than 3 minutes on the phone iirc, entire port process was complete in less than 24 hours. Very easy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Liquid_Cool:
Great info
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sashusmom:
Same for me also. Service was great so I called the porting # and it was done within 24 hrs. Good-bye ATT! My 3 family members are still on ATT family plan. 2 are still in contract for 2 more years. I was hoping the shared data prices ATT announced would be worth going back to the family plan.....NOT. All they did was flip their model. Charge tons for the data portion, $60-200 depending on if you want 1gb or 15gb. Now when is 1GB of data gonna be enough for 4 phones???? And when adding a phone to the family plan was just $10 per phone, now its $40 or $30 depending on smartphone or message phones. or how much data you buy upfront. Way too high!! They just padded their bill some more. I won't be returning.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] muyoso:
Gave the T-Mobile plan a shot for the first month and I like it a lot, by gonna try straight talk on at&t for month number 2. Love that I am able to switch like this to scope out which service serves me best.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Nice, let us know what you think. I am pretty happy with tmobile right now and it seems to have better service than my att post paid plan. I am in New Hampshire/New England though; what is your location?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Wow, excellent info - thanks! I'll be sure to add this useful knowledge to the FAQ!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor79:
Well it's been about 5 hours since I tried activating online...I got all the way trhough and got the message saying I should receive a text message once activation was complete. So I left it a little while...a couple hours. Still no text message so I try activating again...rejects my SIM Card # both online, over the phone, and talking to a CS agent. They can't find it in the system and it's not available to activate a new line. The CS agent made the mistake of telling me I'd need to get a new SIM...I made it clear to him that wasn't going to happen. He puts me on hold to obviously go talk to a sup...comes back and says it must still be in activation. That was 3 hours ago...still nothing.

And I got a nasty little blue band that runs down the right side of my screen when there's a light background from around 55% brightness and below...so I'm going to get a replacement. (my auto brightness is typically around 40% when I'm in my computer room)

Yeah this is working out well so far.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] urinsane:
My friend paying over $110 a month on Verizon had to go into the store 4 times over the course of a week to get her Samsung Galaxy 3 that she pre-ordered months ago. There are problems regardless of carrier, manufacturer, retailer...

You can always switch back to Sprint :P

Edit: BTW I saw your screen issues in the other thread. I've thought quite a few people in that thread are *****ing about nothing, but I wouldn't be able to tolerate a screen as shown in your photo. Definitely return that while you can.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boobot:
Two Line Billing on T-mobile

I purchased two phones, one for me and the other for the misses, and they should be coming in today. My question is around billing for two lines. I haven't used prepaid before but I'm guessing that each line will have to be filled separately for the T-mobile online $30 prepaid plan? Or is there a way to utilize a single pool?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Both lines will be completely separate. As far as I can tell, there is no way to manage multiple lines on T-Mobile Prepaid.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor79:
Seems to me I remember having trouble activating with T-Mobile later in the evening once before...and the same thing happened. Tried again in the morning and it activated fine. Might be a good tip to place...don't wait until after US primetime to activate, you may have problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sanvara:
Why does the OP say no roaming on prepaid?

"No roaming on prepaid. If you are outside your carrier's coverage area, you have no service. Period."

You

do

get voice roaming with TMobile's $30 prepaid plan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Not in my experience. My fiance is on a T-Mobile postpaid plan. When we visit her parents (in a rural area) she can make and receive calls without issue and her GSII indicates 2-3 bars, while my Galaxy Nexus reflects No Coverage. None whatsoever. Because I can't roam on the networks she can.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] muyoso:
The Washington DC metro area and northern VA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
What network is she roaming on in that case? AT&T? How much does that roaming cost?

I have taken my prepaid T-mobile phone to Canada and roamed on the GSM networks there, no problem. But it's 59 cents a minute, and a ridiculous $10 per MB of data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Yes roaming on AT&T, the only other GSM provider in the USA lol.

You get roaming "included" with your postpaid plan. If you use a ton of data or minutes when roaming they'll tell you that you're using too much, but generally there's no extra charges.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sanvara:
On T-Mobile's web site they have fine print about the pre-paid monthly 4G plans:

"Domestic and international data roaming not available." (So yes, no data roaming)

"Service may be limited or terminated for misuse, abnormal usage or significant roaming."

Why would they say they can terminate you for significant roaming if voice roaming is not possible with the pre-paid plan?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Good ole disclosures.. gotta keep the lawyers happy..

Seems almost like they copy and pasted that from part of the post paid disclosures
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I'm just telling you what my experience has been with prepaid and postpaid service side by side. Where postpaid roams, I have no service.

You may be able to roam under some special circumstances but don't expect it to be a guaranteed thing. It's much better to come into this plan expecting zero roaming and maybe occasionally getting some than to expect to roam and get none.