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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I think going with the $30 plan with the

intention of using more minutes

goes against peoples normal tendencies to avoid overages at all costs. We've been so groomed to think overages are terrible and to buy more than we need by the carriers that the thought of paying per minute seems foreign to us. Once you think about it and do some (very simple) calculations, you can easily make the best choice, especially given the many options available for prepaid.

They're all bound to converge at some point. I think whenever someone has a question about VOIP I'm referring them here (mainly just to read the 1st post), and for more general questions about Prepaid refer to the big Prepaid thread. At this point everyone is pretty much using Straight Talk $45 or T-Mobile $30/$60/$70 plans, so that's pretty much beaten to death in the last 10 pages of both threads (and seemingly every other thread in this forum at this point!).

Same. I like to spread the knowledge of it any time I can. I think what's most important when introducing someone to Prepaid is being very up-front about the pro's and con's, because people don't like hidden "surprises" (like no roaming). Usually if I'm given time to fully explain the whole deal, they quickly get from "that's too good to be true" to "I'm gonna try this".

Just reading the last couple pages and decided to knock out some response posts before bed. I've answered the same questions on this topic about 10,000x at this point, I could do it in my sleep ;) .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
Go back to the open and its linked some where about the lastest beta just go to the link and pick the download for app bought through play store
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Correct. You have to be on the latest BETA release (which isn't available in the Play Store) in order to have the Airplane Radios option.

You can get it here: http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Whyzor:
Good guide, I hope you keep updating the OP as new tips are accumulated. Here are a few more:

1. Other phone options if the $399 Galaxy Nexus is too much: LG G2x (~$200 used), HTC Sensation (~$300 used), or Samsung Exhibit 2 4G ($190 new).

2. Keepcalling.com has consistent 5% off face-value T-Mobile prepaid refills (& others). They instantly email PINs too.

3. If you record your T-Mobile voicemail greeting to 1 min (I record background music), GV detects a no-answer and will keep ringing other phones or go to your GV voicemail and not TMmobile's Voicemail.

4. The Tasker setup is nice, but a bit complicated & optional. I use CM7's power widget (or other quick toggle widget) to toggle airplane mode & wifi to quickly switch when going out or coming home.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
for the other phones, that is true, but if you see here people are on either att or TMobile besides this is a galaxy nexus forum, and we have a pentaband phone so it's extra icing for us cause we can switch to either carrier and have hspa.

I do have my tasker set up, with quite a few less steps than the op's and works great for me.

Tmobile voice mail takes about a six mine phone call to disable, i would hate to have a potential job interview call me and have to wait through a song then go to voice mail
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bilalakhtar:
Me jelly. Americans south of the border can get 5 GB data for $30 and we Canadians are stuck with 500 MB for $50 with hefty overuse charges?

The only Canadian company that offers decent amount of data for a low price is Wind's Unlimited data (throttled at 5 GB) for $40 along with unlimited Canada-wide call and text. But then you need to deal with ****ty 3G speeds (no HSPA or HSPA+) and coverage is spotty outside Toronto.

Any fellow Canadians around that know about smartphone plans here similar to T-mobile's $30 prepaid one in the States? I'm not on contract btw, with an unlocked GNex too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mjs2011:
Wish I could do this plan but Tmobile told me I'd be on their partner network and most likely be kicked off after a couple months.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
lol what?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mjs2011:
Yeah, technically I would be using AT&T signal on their prepaid plan, not Tmobile signal. It's weird because they have full post paid coverage in my area.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
Yes, you need a DID number for Google Voice to forward to.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
I just ordered a voip.ms DID. I'm trying to add this DID to GV, but GV obviously wants to verify this number by calling it. How do I do this? Sorry for the stupid questions, I'm so new to this. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
I forget exactly, but basically you will get a phone call to that number so just have your voip program setup tool receive calls from that number them under Google Voice you can ask for a phone call verification.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
Nevermind, I just created a call forward in .ms to verify. I'm learning!

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Well, I kind of have it working! When I call my cell phone, I get an incoming call on csipsimple and the native phone. Do I need to stop the call forwarding in GV to my TMo # and setup the forwarding to TMo in voip.ms?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
No worries. A small learning curve, but week worth it I feel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
Can someone please help me with this? When I call my GV # I get dual incoming calls, one from csipsimple and one from the native phone dialer. I just bought a voip.ms DID, am I suppose to remove TMo forwarding GV and then have voip.ms forward to TMo # after 4-5 seconds?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JohnSebeny:
people still sign up for this T-Mobile deal? I've got StraightTalk service right now and kinda bummed they throttle speeds. Then again, I can't complain for $45/mo. How difficult is this to setup completely? The T-Mobile coverage in my area isn't too terribly bad. Just outside of town sucks, but that's the case for almost any carrier.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pkt_Lnt:
Yes to your question. Routing looks like this now that you have a voip.ms DID, so that GV only points to your voip.ms DID, and voip.ms forwards to your TMo cell number if no answer / no sip registration.

Routing is GV > voip.ms DID > CSipSimple (if registered at voip.ms) > TMo cell number (if no answer or no registered).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
Thanks Pkt_Lnt - only thing I can't get working is incoming calls still, even though csipsimple is registered. Here is how I have it setup...

1. GV settings, forward calls to just my voip.ms DID

2. voip.ms Deafult DID Routing = SIP / [main account]

3. voip.ms DID routing = Call Forwarding to TMo cell #, dial timeout in 15 seconds (3 rings).

4. csipsimple settings, allow all incoming and outgoing calls, all networks checked for testing

All incoming calls come straight to TMo # even though I'm registered to voip.ms through csipsimple. I must be missing something or have my voip.ms configured wrong. Any help :crying: Sorry I'm such a noob and I appreciate the help so far.

justin
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] That1FatGuy:
Just wanted to point out the ring duration can now be set in pbxes.org settings. I currently have mine at 30 seconds. Not sure when that was changed but that just ticks off one of the cons now. :) And thanks for the helpful guide and FAQ was a breeze to set up and am looking forward to dropping the silly 100/mo I've been paying out of sheer laziness of switching.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
Would anyone be able to help me with this? I have mine setup like this but I sometimes get a busy signal to my DID, or random issues.

My setup: Google voice, Google voice app, csipsimple nightly, voip.ms DID. I'm so lost :crying:

Do I need to set just Google Chat in google voice? As for google voice app, do I put Never to use google voice to make calls? If someone could make a full tutorial on how to set this up for me, well... I'll give them a internet hug!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
I decided to take the plunge and buy $25 worth of minutes on voip.ms. I'm still seeing the same issues that I was having with pbxes.org when I was using sipdroid. Now I am using CSipSimple which will not work with pbxes (thats why I am using voip.ms).

Anyways, the issue that I am having is that whenever I am talking to somone, I hear them perfectly clear, even when bad connection areas, which is good, but whenever I talk, every 2 seconds, my voice is cut out for about half a second. it's extremely regular and happens even with great connections, but I don't believe it happens on wifi at all.

Does anyone know what is happening? Is this some kind of setting I must tweak in the app to fix this? it's really frustrating for the other caller because they don't hear a lot of what I am saying.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
Never in the Google Voice app as CSipSimple should be your calling program and list your caller id as your Google Voice number.

Forwarding too Google chat isn't needed with this setup. So only forward too your voip. ms number.

See if those changes help.

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My question to you is which voice codec are you using ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
I've tried all voice codex, but I eat their use speex or G729 (both 8 kHz)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
I will list settings I use with CSipSimple tomorrow when I can access a computer. Maybe one of them will help.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
Ahh thanks so much. The cutting in and out is at such regular intervals that I think it might have something to do with weird echo cancellation settings. I just tried an audio test on 25 Mbps wifi and I got the same cutting in and out so I know it isn't a bandwidth thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
Yeah. I tweaked a lot of settings so I don't even know which are default now. I also am using the latest nightly builds. Hope to have settings in the morning for you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
These are settings I use for CSipSimple with VOIP.MS. Hopefully you find something that helps you with your Galaxy nexus stutter issues. If it has a toggle (check vs non-check mark), I listed it below when I have a check mark.

CSipSimple, latest Nightly Build:

Advance Settings:

Network (Checkmarks on):

- UDP

- TCP

- Disable TCP Switch

- Enable QoC (though I don’t have this configured on my router)

- Use Compact SIP

Media (Checkmarks/Settings):

- Echo Cancellation

- Echo Cancellation Tail: 200

- Echo Mode: WebRTC

- Voice Audio Detection

- Noise Reduction

- Media Quality: 4

- Clock Rate: 16 KHz

- Audio Frame PTime: 20

- Codec (g729 WiFI/3G top)

- Micro Amp: 0

- Speaker Amp: 0

- BT Amp’s: 0

- Initial Stream Level: 10

- Thread Count: 0

- DTMF Mode: Auto

∷:Audio Troubleshooting∷:

- Auto Close Time: 1

- Use WebRTC Implementation

- Focus Audio

- Mic Source: Voice_Communication

- Audio Mode for SIP: IN_Communication

- Restart stream when change…

- Audio Implementation: Java
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
WOW thanks I'll give this a shot later today and report back if I see any differences. Are there any settings on the voip.ms site that may be influencing my issues as well?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
I don't believe so, but I will check. You said this was an issue before so my guess is unlikely.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tom1l21:
So I just tried all these settings out and it appears to sound better, the stutter isn't as bad, but I still notice it. I'll make some calls tomorrow and see if the other end can hear me better (and hopefully not complain.)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dentman:
4G and Wifi settings?

I plan to use GV and GrooveIP but i'm still unsure about some of the settings.

I'm home on WIFI most of the time and Huntsville has many free WIFI spots so I feel I can use 4G and wifi and only occasionally the 100 minutes.

I did not use tasker to turn on and off airplane mode and I don't do it manually. I did not port my number GV and I didn't read anything about it in the original setup but its talked about in the newer threads.

So can anyone point me to settings to use GV and GrooveIP and get and make calls on either wifi or 4G? I can do complicated but I don't see why I need to. I'm willing to take my chances with 4G it's just a phone call and I'm not a Doctor anymore.

Thanks for your help

:cowboy:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
I would start with this FAQ from the developers website:

http://snrblabs.com/snrb/Apps/GrooveIP/FAQ.aspx

I used it to get going when I was using GrooveIP. If you have further questions, please reply here and I'm sure someone will be able to help you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dentman:
I used plan minutes but not on purpose

Yesterday I used 30 minutes of 100 which is a shame. How can I tell if GrooveIP is using my built in dialer or if I am just dialing direct?

Thankyou

:cowboy:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
If you pull down your notification pane, you should be able to see which it is using.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
You guys that are using GV + voip.ms + csipsimple... How do I initiate a call using my TMo minutes and have it send my GV caller ID?

For instance, I dial a number, I have it ask me if I want to use voip.ms or use mobile. I have "Do not use Google voice to make any calls" set.

What is happening is if I want to make a call using my TMo minutes, I'll dial a number and choose "use mobile". This sends my TMo caller ID which I don't want. If I set "Ask each time" I go in an endless loop and can't even make a call.

Anyone have a solution for this? Or if I can't make a call with voip.ms I have to use TMo caller ID? Thanks

Justin
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
You need to dial through Google Voice to use T-Mobile minutes with your GV number. Not sure if there is a fluid easy to do that with already being asked about using phone vs voip. Maybe set Google Voice to always use or ask, instead of never?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dentman:
Now it says I used another 10 minutes! I swear I did not! What the what?

I guess I need to log into tmo and see what number it says I called. This is so strange and I will be out of minutes in less than 7 days of use :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
Dial through groove ip. This will eliminate using the T-Mobile minutes. At least for now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dentman:
Why do you say for now?

I am dialing through GrooveIP. That's why I don't understand the minutes used.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whitedragonz83:
Under GrooveIP -> Settings -> Native Dialer Options -> Built-in Dialer Preferences.

Is this set to "always use mobile network"?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marty331:
Are the correct APN settings posted in this thread? Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
For the T-Mobile plan? The default should work nicely.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marty331:
Yes T-Mobile.

Hmm, well I've only been able to connect to edge and I'm in an area with "excellent" coverage. I was hoping it was an issue with the APN settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mevordel:
You might try a different baseband.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marty331:
How do I do that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] atlgator:
If you're using voip.ms and cipsimple, and trying to conserve tmo prepaid minutes, just set cipsimple to integrate with Android and available to make calls over 3g and up.

You can set voip.ms to pass along any number on caller ID, by visiting your voip.ms settings on a browser. I have my GV number set there so folks recognize my outbound call.

I don't have it set up to take calls over voip.ms. I answer those quickly if I need to. No big whoop.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] manifest3r:
Try calling T-Mobile and updating your Preferred Roaming List (PRL).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mevordel:
See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Aren't PRLs a CDMA thing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] manifest3r:
Oops, you're right, my bad! I'm still getting used to switching to a GSM carrier after being with Sprint for a long while.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
So I am back.. I have had the same issue for a few months now and basically it prevents anyone from calling me. Which I kind of liked, made me feel in control haha..

Well now that I am applying to new jobs I need to be reach-able.

The issue being that

no one can call my google voice number when I am not on wifi (and thus sipdroid).

It seems it routes correctly through google chat to sipdroid and my tmobile phone but wont route the call through my google voice number to my handset. When people call my google voice number it tells them "You have no new messages" and gives them options of changing my voicemail etc. I did some searching, apparently this was fixed by adding a voicemail PIN in google voice before. I have had a voicemail PIN before but changed it just to be sure. It did not help.

Whats the issue here? Any help would be lovely. I have calls setup in google voice to forward to: "google chat" and "my prepaid tmobile" number. Under the check box for my tmobile prepaid number it says "activate Google voicemail on this phone" which per the OP we are not to activate. Also under "advanced options" I have the following selected:

Direct access to voicemail when calling your Google number from this phone?

Yes (default for mobile phones)

PIN required (for added safety)

Also call screening is off.

Also I had called tmobile when I first got the phone to disable their VM. And the voicemail people have the option of changing is my google voice voicemail message.

So not sure what I am missing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
That's a good one, and not one that I've encountered. Unless folks have been calling me and changing my voicemail prompt for me... I should probably check on that!

All I can really suggest would be to disable all forwarding to Google Chat and make sure that works as expected. Maybe eat the 10c/min on those calls that you have to take. At this point, being reliably reachable is probably more important.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
Not sure. The only thing different on my GV advanced settings is

Direct access to voicemail when calling your Google number from this phone? No

Forwarding options: Go straight to voicemail (theoretically shouldn't matter, since vmail forwarding isn't supported by the T-mobile plan anyway)

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BTW, I have myself a new problem with Sipdroid/pbxes.org now. Calls simply do not go through. This started around the same time as when pbxes.org emailed me saying they were going to delete my account in a week if I didn't provide a name and address (wtf?), which I then provided on the website. At the same time, I also got suspicious of this company's practices, so I set up Google's 2-step authentication and app-specific password for pbxes.org, which I verified worked. That was one week ago. The next day, calls stopped working. WTF?

So I'm going back to my backup GrooveIP and Talkatone apps, which each have their own problems, but they do work... ugh.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phychmasher:
I had that very same problem when I was getting started. It freaked me out that any random person calling my GVoice was allowed to change my settings. I activated Google Voicemail to solve it. If you look at the "Set up Google Voice" pic from the OP, my set up looks exactly like that, except I also checked "notify me of new voicemails via text." Also, did you deactivate your carrier VM box yet? Not sure if that solved it for me, but I did it at the same time while troubleshooting this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idigg:
Found a great app just for this. Voice plus, its free in the play store. I have my GV app set to "Always use GV for outgoing call". When I make a call from the native dialer, voice plus intercepts somehow and it says "using google voice" and I am then presented if I want to make the call with my voip.ms/csipsimple account or my TMo number.

-- If I want to use VOIP I pick voip.ms and it routes through SIP and my GV caller ID is sent since I have this set in the voip.ms control panel.

-- If I want to use my TMo minutes, I pick "Use Mobile" and it actually dials my GV number, hits #2 and then dials out from GV with my caller ID.

Perfect, seamless. If this doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll try to explain further. The Voice plus app, you can set caller groups or just area codes, I just added the 2 area codes I use and it works great.

One question

- Anyone able to use the native messaging app with a ported GV number? I have the setting in the GV app to "use phone messaging app" but then I never get texts. I wonder if that is because my GV number forwards to voip.ms.

justin
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] manifest3r:
Anyone know an alternative dialer for Sipdroid? I dont like the dial pad since I use touch tones when calling.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shelby04861:
hello all. to start off, I am reading as much of this thread as I cant but if someone knows the answer and can direct me that will be helpful. Anyway, I have google voice and groove ip setup on my phone and am trying to use "connect-to-cell" home phones. I can initiate a call using the vtech home phone because it starts out using the phones native dialer, and then it hands off the call to groove ip. I cant get any voice either way. This is an inactive cell phone that I thought would be a great repurpose project. If I am missing a setting or need to do something else, just let me know. I am not giving up on this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
So I tried unchecking the boxes forwarding calls in google voice settings to both google chat and the phone itself. Didnt help too much. I also tried activating the google voicemail on the pone which phychmaster recommended but that didnt help. I did deactivate the carrier vm already.

Not sure what else to do, I am whit's end. I guess the only other option to remove everything and start from scratch..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
Did you try setting

"Direct access to voicemail when calling your Google number from this phone" to "No"?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
THAT WORKED!!!!

Sorry I got

very

excited. Not sure why that was checked because I dont remember changing it at all since day one. And I had it set with a PIN so not sure why anyone could access it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phychmasher:
I just use the native dialer of my phone. In SIP Droid if you go to "Call Options" then "Preferred Call Type" you can set it to "Sipdroid, when available" and it'll use Sipdroid, even though you just dialed with your native dialer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] manifest3r:
Do you know how to make it so that when I'm actually in a call it uses the default driver? I'm pretty much thinking I'm SOL because its a software configuration app specific.