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[HD2 General] Mister B:
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
[HD2 General] Halsahaf:
You are crazy man.... :D really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
[HD2 General] scpion:
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G

Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..

To go deeper..

I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.

Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic :( most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.

Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!

Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??

Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.

Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...

Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.

Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.

There are many more that I cant remember...

If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.

I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.

I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
[HD2 General] Crippius:
Interresting report !
[HD2 General] hamdir:
according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs

guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device

HTC at its best

and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos

our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol

here is a better quick review http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
[HD2 General] scpion:
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
[HD2 General] brunoavrocha:
Mate,

One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
[HD2 General] xlr8me:
Check this out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac

I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...

Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb... :)
[HD2 General] hamdir:
all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out

we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon

so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
[HD2 General] Mister B:
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...

Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.

Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
[HD2 General] scpion:
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
[HD2 General] MartijnMM:
I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.

If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.

You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.

It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.

Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.

Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.

True, its a **** headpiece.

I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
[HD2 General] Burag:
I agree on Sense thing.

I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.

Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ;)) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.

Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...

So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
[HD2 General] GeoMil:
I came from an HD2 too.

I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.

If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.

But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.

Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
[HD2 General] Reckless187:
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
[HD2 General] Akishimax:
I just had to post a reply to this post...

My personal choice was between three hadsets:

HTC One X

Galaxy S3

LG 4X HD

All have basically the same spec with minor variances.

I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...

However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:

the 1800mAh battery

the lack of an SD slot

the unibody shell

More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.

Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.

My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.

These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.

Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.

I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.

To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.

However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.

on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.

however the real question is do you need it?

as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.

So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks

Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.

So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.

Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.

Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
[HD2 General] scpion:
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.

To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
Its not really though is it, on paper yes, I could buy a Bugatti veyron, but I still cant go faster than the limiting factor, the speed limit of the road.

With the HD2 and WP, its much the same. Where the HD2 loses is, its GPU, the S1 A200 sucked, its screen tech (blacks and colours are not as contrasted or vibrant) 5MP camera is fine but the optics on this and most other devices suck so I wouldn't score that as a win for anyone, except maybe the titan. and the build quality of the buttons that were never supposed to be pushed what else is actually better on the One x? your going to say battery life, well that's all subjection, it depends on its use, and the CPU, which as ive said, unless you play games doesn't make the blindest bit of difference when using WP.

yes Android needs a better CPU, but that's Androids problem, WM and WP doesn't need it and can produce an equal if not better experience (outside of games that is)
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Exactly. I had a Galaxy Note and sold it recently because the only place where it held a real advantage was in gaming, and I have my iPad for that.

The HD2 enjoys the hands-down richest developer support this forum has to offer across three operating systems. I was frustrated by the lack of working, safe ICS ROMs on the Note (until yesterday that is) whereas the HD2 had several fully-working options available.

The big improvements that CPU/GPU/RAM specs on newfangled phones will be in gaming and to a lesser extent in web browsing and very heavy-duty multitasking (e.g. background processing power needed).

Android GB ROMs run pretty fast on my HD2. The Note was just a smidge faster/smoother in doing basic stuff, but all I need my phone is for basic smartphone tasks (calls, SMS, calendar, web browsing and a few low-intensive apps like Google Talk and Facebook and whatnot) and the Note was definitely not worth the extra $300 street value. I'll be keeping the HD2 til it breaks -- which may not be for a while since 2 years later it still holds up better than the Note did in 2 days (micro-scratches on chintzy plastic body, scratches on plastic camera lens cover [come on, Samsung...]).

Android phones depreciate too quickly to make any new high-tech handset a worthwhile investment IMO. There's definitely a market for people who need handsets like the One X and Note but the $399 Galaxy Nexus is probably the best deal -- at least with the latter you get more ROM options.

Not to mention the HD2 is legendary. The One X, SIII and SNote, while great devices, will never be legendary like the HD2 is. It's like the N95 of touchscreen smartphones.

A year or two from now the stuff like the SIII or One will look stale, outdated and lame against the next best thing. The HD2 will always have its distinctiveness.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
Ive had my HD2 since launch and its still going strong there are some minor external defects but its fully functional

Ive seen some stinkers of an Android phone, I think the issue is, the HD2 was the result of 7 years of development with WP. Had that phone been released a year or two earlier then we would probably find ourselves still working with WM bases phones, With Android they more or less cloned that device and tried to make an OS that worked, they failed, and by the time they got the OS working they gave up supporting the older devices, devices that would be more than capable of running the OS.

Then something odd happened, they released High end devices that ran Android well and low end devices for the masses that are crap, barely functional sluggish and not very pleasant to use. But the funny thing is this arms race, they pump so much hardware in to the things but surely someone should question why, why on earth do we need 4+cores and a gig of RAM on a phone? tablets fair enough, but phones? why do we need ultra high resolution phones when your displaying it on a 5< size screen, are we watching the screens 3 inches from your eyes?

To me it seems like rather than developing a phone in a manor that would help mobile users its similar to the GHz wars of CPU giants 5+ years ago. Of course its easy to sell a phone when you can turn out figures like, 8 core 1.6GHz, that fact you get the same experience on a S1 1GHz snapdragon (outside of games) is ignored.

Of course the people who drive this are the users and since smartphones have hit the masses now we are subject to a lot more stupid users then before, which I think is why we are were we are. The other irony is Windows being the ultra light ultra fast OS and Android, the "Free" Open source alternative being the sluggish brute that needs serious hardware to power it. I seem to remember Windows Vista having that issues but got slated for it, For Cool Android users that's obvious now acceptable so long as the Green Robot is the one running it.
[HD2 General] samuelong87:
After reading this, I'm appalled by how slow technology has been advancing. Shame on you HTC! You should just continue selling the HD2!

One X to rule them all
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
to a degree, that's not fair, Firstly its not just HTC, they are all at the same point, and secondly because of Stupid user syndrome (SUS) :) there has been plenty of development, just in a field that doesn't really make for a better phone (outside of games) what is needed in development is durability, longevity innovation and customization. Not more cores and more GHz, bigger screens and high resolutions
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
I respectfully disagree, mobile technology has been advancing needlessly quickly in the past year. Phone hardware internals are progressing too rapidly, and phones depreciate more quickly than ever before (look at the Galaxy Nexus as a prime example). It's a serious problem when the only phones that can remain up-to-date and hold their value for more than 3-6 months are made by Apple.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
Absolutely,

The HD2 is a prime example, here we have a 3 year old device that can match the latest offerings from WP and compete with Android.

Had there been no progress at all then we would not be that much worse off

as I said though, SUS is to blame

Its faster, bigger, MORE CORES so it must be better believe the end users, and of course the Android platform makers then say well the hardwares there so we may as well use it, pushing the technology envelope even higher to the point were we actually need faster cores to run the stupid thing....all the while it achieves little more than a phone 3 years older. :confused:

Of course there is one good thing, they sell more phones, right up to the point where people start to expect major bounds in tech over their previous phone not realising that there previous phone was more than enough for their needs, were it not designed in such a way that its likely to fall apart....usually just after the warranty runs out. Then the manufacture (read HTC) runs in to the wall where it cant keep up with the expectations on it because there is only so much you can do to a phone to make it "look" better on paper without actually having to design something better in the first place.

Victims of their own success.

rant over :D
[HD2 General] acerate:
WHy is the hardware the faster develope?Because comparing with the software optimization,it's cheaper,and faster developement.all those factors makes all the manufactures prefer to improve the hardware instead of optimize the OSes AND softwares.IT's simply decided by free market rule.

hd2 is good.I bought a second handed hd2 t mobile version a few days ago.I don't like games,so why buy better one which have better hardware but not disdinguish improvement?For people who are like me and have to spend their money more carefully,and also don't like gaming so much,hold your old hd2. For people who ear a lot,just buying them for fun.everyone is happy.

I agree your selling of one xis a good choice as long as you are happy with it.since you are sure about it,the other's opnion won't effect yours so much. You are still a happy one who've got rid of your "terrible one x".
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
Because hardware is more of an attractive selling aid with many more key selling points, its what you hold, its the physical purchase, end users relate much better to a real thing. you ask a average punter what the difference between ICS and any other android version and you will more than likely get a blank expression, tell them this phone has double the cores and twice the GHz and they will wet themselves.

that my friend is why we have this ARMs race (get it? :)) only its pointless and just stops the development of good phones because we are not thinking outside the box or looking at areas that really matter or need attention.
[HD2 General] Nigeldg:
:') Oh dear, that was terrible :p
[HD2 General] Burag:
... and this is why I will keep my HD2 as long as it will be working.

I just don't see any point in getting new phone, when my old HD2 can do the same things as One X: phone calls, sms, gmail, YT, browse net, wifi tether etc. etc.

So, One X users, explain me please, what makes it better than HD2, apart from games (I don't play them on ~5", got PC + 32" for this purpose).

Now, when we have HWA on ICS, UI is almost as fast as in my friend's GNex, same goes for browsing the net (not even speaking about SMS/Phone/Gmail, as even my old G1 could do those in reliable speed).
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
you should ask that question on a one x forum but be prepared to bombed with technical jargon that sounds impressive but makes little difference :)

HD2? - Because we have seen the light!

lol we'll be a cult following before long ;)
[HD2 General] hengsheng120:
And now we getting One V rom, so definitely no need for new phone when you can always impress everyone with the HD2.