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[Xperia Z General] hydenobuyuki:
Zipped up a bunch of them and put them up on dropbox. If the dropbox file link doesn't work, let me know.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h075jb0ve2pn7u5/XperiaGX-EarlyTestPhotos.zip

Too bad it's not the stacked RS sensor but the phone is pretty decent overall.

A lot of people seem to be unhappy that the photos posted by me and coollead don't look as good as in preview pictures

but I'm not convince the preview pictures weren't tweaked or post-processed. Personally, I hate that these pictures aren't post-processed but processing them would of course defeat the purpose of sharing them. For a marketing department, on the other hand, their purposes would be different.

Actually, I'm sure the whole software imaging stack side of things has been optimized a lot since earlier pre-production models.

I'd imagine that we should get better battery performance, less overheating, and more consumer centric levels of noise reduction, etc.

However, I think it's difficult to zoom into any small sensor, high mega pixel image and get no noise + all detail.

I think like most consumer targeted devices, they don't let you change NR levels, etc and force you to use consumer-centric settings.

I can live with that though and I'm largely okay with the image quality on this device as my expectation going into it was that it's a still a mobile phone camera with a small sensor, small glass, etc.

Also, not surprisingly, there's a big difference between using the digital zoom and cropping in post.

I wrote many times in the captions but digital zoom is really not your friend. NO digitally zoomed images with this device were acceptable.

(No digitally zoomed images with other devices in the carrier's line up were acceptable either though)

If you have a chance to check out the device whether it's the GX or T or TX (whichever it will officially become) then please do check it out.

You may find that you like it; You may find that you don't. I initially didn't like this device (except for the industrial design) because of poorly optimized software. But, later firmware (a month before launch) fixed up all those performance optimization issues and now I'm very happy with the device (aside from the battery size)

Also, a lot of people on the Internet complained that the GX is too expensive; They were often comparing the wrong numbers.

This device is typically about $150 US (after adjusting for purchasing power parity, amortization, and all that) with what would be similar to a 2 year contract except that you are not locked in are not under any contract.
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobile-review.com%2Freview%2Fsony-xperia-j-st26i.shtml

The new Xperia J ST26i, a mini-"mint".

The most amazing thing about this phone is the combination of the frugal MSM7227a (1Ghz single core Snapdragon S2 on 45nm) + 512mb RAM + comparatively tiny 4" display and the same 1700mAh battery you will find in their top phones with s4 dualcore, power hungry 1gb RAM and 4.6" displays.

Sometimes I can't help but wonder: are they smoking crack?
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
why does mint and J have like similar arc curve at the back? it doesnt make TX (hayabusa/GX) and the arc s special anymore :(
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
@hydenobuyuki,

thanks mate, downloading right now
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
The J looks a good move to me, the best selling Android phone at our shop is the Ace, because it's cheap and has a decent size screen. If it really does come out at the €150 price range it will sell well, and the style keeps it in line with the new range. Like the ace 2 bring similar to the S 3.
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
Why is nobody talking about the fact that the Xperia Nexus has been confirmed by NTT Docomo ? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] hei133:
Hmm... I thought reading from from the original source, these are just still rumors or someone's "dream list"?
[Xperia Z General] LegibleEel:
Can you source this please?
[Xperia Z General] hei133:
I can only find this: http://anago.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/smartphone/1343304841/
[Xperia Z General] zangetsu2188:
Nice link. Xperia Nexus.

There is also an "Xperia Walk" in that link. Hmmm no rumors about xperia walk up to now.

Also saw Optimus Nexus and Galaxy Nexus II. Just WOW.
[Xperia Z General] karun11:
How credible is the source?
[Xperia Z General] zangetsu2188:
That's the problem. Its credibility. Plus, it's in Japanese language ;)
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
It does raise some questions though.

For example, what happens with Xperia U? Will it be discontinued? Is it positioned "better" or "worse" than Xperia J?

Xperia U seems to have vastly better hardware. And is more expensive. But smaller screen and "last year" looks.

On the other hand, Xperia J looks "almost like current flagship", has a bigger display but has hadware which is already two years old.

Your average joe would be confused.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
At its current rate of smartphone releases, Sony will soon either need more alphabets in English or have to switch to some other language. Just when we thought that there won't be any more surprises before Sony's press conference at IFA, we have been greeted with Xperia J. Yes, another Android smartphone in Sony's Xperia series - NEWS CHANNELS ;)

sent from the BEAST Galaxy S3
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
http://gpad.tv/develop/google-aosp-sony-xperias-xperianexus/

it's just rumour for now.

they think about XN because Sony Xperia S get direct AOSP support from Google and that could lead to XN in the future.

some people on 2ch also joke about it
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Beside the Xperia, Optimus and Galaxy Nexus (running with Exynos 4 btw), there is also a Galaxy S3 PLUS listed. I would say there is something wrong with that source.
[Xperia Z General] karun11:
They might be referring to the Galaxy SII plus?
[Xperia Z General] jianlinooi:
http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/samsung-sony-lg-nexus-smartphones.jpg

xperia walk...LOL...xperia walkman? waterproof...
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Is there any Sony Event on 25th of August?

sent from the BEAST Galaxy S3
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Should I get the Galaxy S3 (saw it with my bro and I am impressed) or wait for the new Xperia TX? :confused:

Someone help me decide!! ;)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I got S3 and trust me its awesome !!!

sent from the BEAST Galaxy S3
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
complete plastic exterior. seems cheap enough and affordable. plus the price has been going down crazy.
[Xperia Z General] skycamefalling:
Forget the S3. The only thing that sells is the Quadcore-CPU that noone needs.

It's ugly, the screen loses when it's compared to Xperia S, LG O4x and HTC One X. It doesn't even have a dedicated camera button.

If you want a real good device, go for the Xperia Acro S. It has the best screen outthere, it's fast, beautiful and even waterproof.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Saw this on esato :D

That Tablet ........:))
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
The touch screen and response is awesome....I know I am praising in wrong forum :silly:
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Now what is that tablet !!!!!!!!! :confused:
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Probably the cancelled one due to the acquisition :<
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys,

From Sony, the phones which will be announced at IFA, Berlin are Xperia J (mid range) and Xperia T (specs almost similar to Xperia S)

Or there will be something else !!!!
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
XPERIA T ?

What is with the Hayabusa (LT29) or GX (CHINA Version) will this modell dont be presented on the IFA in BERLIN ? :(
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
Could be a LT30 aka Mint.

http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-t-may-be-final-name-lt30-mint

If this is the case, the specs are head and shoulders above Xperia S.
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
but what is with the Hayabusa (LT29)

the specs are the same but the design is far better on Hayabusa
[Xperia Z General] hei133:
I hope they will show a bit what does the LT25 Tsubasa looks like.... NXT or T/TX style? Best would be it is a slightly smaller GX (4.3"). maybe Xperia J, LT25, Xperia T/TX would be like the S, P, U series. Would be nice to have a choice of 4/4.3" screen but with near GX specs...
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Guys and Girl, my brother has the phone and I have played with it A LOOOOOT. IT IS AWESOME! It does NOT feel cheap and the screen is GORGEOUS!!

I am a big Sony fan that is why I am hesitant of jumping ship and getting the S3. If they don't announce the LT29 and LT30 at IFA and their release dates (hopefully withing 2-3 weeks) then I will almost certainly get me an S3.
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
i can only quote you :)
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
Regardless of what you say I still think it feels cheap and looks cheap. Also pentile sucks, even at that resolution. I could have gotten a S3 over my Xperia S, but I chose not to get one.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Mr Batman

No point arguing here in XS forum :)

I like S3..even the camera of S3 is better than XS, if Sony is not releasing GX/TX or watever, go n buy S3 n wait for Sony 2013 series !!

sent from the BEAST Galaxy S3
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
I've played with GS3 on hand personally and I think the build felt cheap. the only good thing is the screen, but it's huge and not so comfortable to be used with just one hand. I would rather get a tablet if screen is the only thing that stands out...
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
One thing I've not seen in a picture so far, the GX screen, when off/black, does it vanish into the bezel like on the S?

One of the things I've always really liked on a phone. The S does it brilliantly.
[Xperia Z General] hydenobuyuki:
Vanish? no... but only in direct light. When not in direct light it's not very noticable.

The reflection in direct light from the screen is blueish black while the reflection of the bezel in direct light is more of a redish black.

Uploaded a picture of it here for you: http://twitpic.com/amq3n7
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Thanks! It looks pretty good. I think the S looks great when off, just a black slab of glass. It would be amazing if the display was edge to edge.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia J looks good !!
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
After seeing this low-entry phone

Make me wonder, should i buy this one for design and wait for the 2013 line?? :D

Cuz of this: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201208/12-0823E/index.html

Kunimasa Suzuki, President and CEO of Sony Mobile. “We are accelerating the integration and convergence with the wider Sony group to continue enhancing our offerings, and a more focused and efficient operational structure will help to reduce Sony Mobile’s costs, enhance time to market efficiency and bring the business back to a place of strength.” :>
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Sounds like a plan! ;)
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
If you can live with dog slow chipset (essentially a mildly tweaked scorpion from 2010) then why not... At least it has an adequate battery.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Yeah, Its bad choice that Sony chose the 2010 Snapdragon instead of the S3, but i believe that this is a budget phone right?

so its price range (off contract) might be around $100 (I don't think its going to be this low) to $200 right?

With the Arc design is its biggest selling point for me though :D

Anyway, I will wait for IFA to see the Hayabusa + Mint and also Nokia and Apple event before I make my decision :D
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Something interesting

Hmm...What could it be? Another yet unknown high-end Xperia?
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
i hope that means that the LT30 has been changed from the design :D worsest Design ever.
[Xperia Z General] RAFAMP:
Beautiful phone! I can't wait for it!!!

How much do you guys think it will cost? $600 tops?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I assume you mean LT30/ Mint. According to that leaked roadmap (which was pretty accurate btw) Xperia T should cost something around 720USD

Edit:

here's the list again:
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
i cant unterstand why the Hayabusa (TX) is cheaper than the Mint (T) and a lot cheaper.

perhaps the technical specs are better that we already know ?

are the Relase month identical in Europe ?
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
My next phone will hopefully be the Xperia Nexus if the rumors are true. I love my Xperia S, but I don't think I could pass up a Sony Nexus. Would have to sell my S though.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Someone have a seed for a tree of money, please?

Sent from my LT26i with Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
I wish, if I want a new device I usually just sell my old one.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
You see, I'm only 15, so I have no job, so no easy money. Second, the new device may. (And will) have a higher price, so I need more money. Third, my phone got a small crack ob the screen (nothing like those drop tests, only a line of it). Forth, device takes years to come to here (Brazil is Brazil, sadly) and with huge price (Galaxy Nexus, called Galaxy X, due patents here, costs almost as the same as an Galaxy S3 (around 1000 dollars)). And lastly, my mom wouldn't allow to me trade like this. I had my X10 Mp For 1 year before buying the XS.

Confusing post, and didn't wanted to sound bad. Just a lot of things that stop me from doing that...

Sent from my LT26i with Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
Highly unlikely, there is almost nothing they could improve at this stage, hayabusa already ticks off all the important checkboxes.

Even if we forget that LT30 leak (which does look credible), I do not see anything they could "improve" worth additional money. Except putting an adequate battery, something in tune of 2200-2500mAh.

It even looks like the Mint will actually be *less* advanced than Hayabusa as it is unlikely it will have a LTE.

Otherwise it will be a tough sell. Yes, they could put 2GB RAM, but no one will pay $100 for this. They could add a 64GB Flash, but it would be fairly strange marketing decision. Especially considering that TX won't come to europe and they basically have nothing to sell between a 350Euro Xperia S and ???Eur Xperia T.

Anyway, the current top dog Galaxy S3 in Germany currently sells for some ~500Euros, anything much more than this would be a clear suicide.
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
I had my HTC Hero for almost 4 years, before I got my XS. Also you only need one more year before you can get a job and make some money. I have been working since I was 16.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
I can work as a trainer. Only with 18 I officially can work here. With 16, you are a trainer, and you may win money for it. Anyway, let's not lose focus. Can't wait to see something sexy in the next weeks.

Sent from my LT26i with Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
Agreed, hopefully we will see a Xperia Nexus.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Hrmm...I saw this from a user named zomgbbqftw on NeoGAF who seems to have some insight into Sonys businesses, but I don't know if he's an actual insider or just a fan. Nevertheless, I found it interesting and am wondering if anyone knows if it's true:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41323569&postcount=19337

I remember some people have said they wish Sony would aquire/parter with ST-Ericsson, but I don't recall any real rumours saying Sony wants to make a move for them. So... anyone know if there's truth to this?
[Xperia Z General] hydenobuyuki:
Well, there's only two comparatives for "sexy" in English: sexier and less sexy.

Contextually, we'd have to assume that they mean a new device will be "sexier" to people who like a particular design style.

(Although as a GX/Hayabusa device user, I'd hope for "less sexy" like we've seen for the mint)

Really though, what if everything we've seen with the mint is a lie? (on the industrial design side)

The mint could turn out to be not ugly. Like a GX with a bigger battery and only missing arc.

As for the leaked but unofficial price list for one particular market, I don't think that it's necessarily the best indication that the mint is that much "better" than the hayabusa. But, if the supposed price is more what could the difference be?

- Exmor RS?

- Different SoC?

- How about a better screen? The Hayabusa screen is okay but undoubtedly not the best screen out there.

OR... what if it's nothing like this and the only reason the supposed price is higher is because it's heading into the christmas/holiday/black-monday-or-tuesday-or-whatever-people-call-it season.

They can leave it to carriers and stores to deal with campaigns, discounts, etc.

(I don't think this would be the case but potentially if you start with a higher price on paper, you can potentially give a bigger discount during the holiday shopping season)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
25, 26, 27, 28, 29th Sony Announcement !!!

5 days to go...
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
you should be thankful for what you have. I have a job and I use my phone for at least 3 years. if you can change phone every year, you either have a decent job or you are leeching someone.
[Xperia Z General] Surethom:
Wireless Display

With Sony saying they are going to integrate there 2013 devices I hope they put miracast http://www.miracast.co.uk/ on all there 2013 devices & 2013 TV's along with Wi-Fi 802.11ac. so we can wirelessly display what is on our Android phone or tablet on the TV.
[Xperia Z General] Maximus999:
Probably has a larger battery, hopefully 2100mAh.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
There are some major events starting Aug 29th...after that we will clear picture on what to buy next !!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1850902

sent from the BEAST Galaxy S3
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
probably off topic but is the xperia acro s considered a mid range phone? according to gsmarena in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKJfVmv06gI it is, and i don't think they're right.. what do u guys think? i'm buying this phone soon and i don't want it to be a mid range :)
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
Well, sony is really suprisingly cheap to upgade!

I always brought a used sony 4-6month after release and sold off my used one.

Made a profit of $10 from x10 to arc, pay $120 from arc to sxs.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
thought apple phones are the same?
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Mobile, the Xperia TL trademark registration in the United States
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I am going to IFA as press, and am (of course) attending everything that has something to do with Sony. If all goes well I should have the chance to have a chat with some higher-up people from Sony too.

My plane is leaving Wednesday morning, so if there are any specific and interesting questions about the designs of the phones and other stuff like that, feel free to ask them in this topic. I'll have a look at all of it but I probably won't look after Tuesday evening (Europe time).

And remember, Sony won't comment on anything that has to do with future devices. The LT29 and whatever is going to be announced can be discussed, but nothing from 2013.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Nothing i can think about now, but I will think of something :)
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
I'm thinking of these questions. we have rumours to some of the questions, but official confirmation would be great. taking some pictures of the displayed devices and show it here would be great, too.

1. actual battery capacity for the final devices (T/Z)

2. available date or month, if set

3. unlocked/subsidized or both for each device

4. jelly bean roll out for the new devices if they do not come with JB

5. possibility of Xperia Nexus before 2013?

6. is bluetooth profile AVRCP version newer than 1.1? I would like my bluetooth devices support displaying meta data to pair with a phone that's capable of sending meta data over bluetooth. this requires AVRCP 1.3 or higher. bunch of sony bluetooth accessories already support this, but I've yet to see a sony phone supporting AVRCP 1.3.
[Xperia Z General] hydenobuyuki:
Perhaps it's similar to the Xperia Acro HD? Was top but not so much any more.

Domestically in Japan, the Acro HD was SEMC's top offering replacing the Xperia NX until the Xperia GX was launched early this month.

For a lot of people, it is still SMC/SEMC's top offering when you are outside of LTE service areas.

I went to look for accessories for the GX in the countryside where LTE service is either spotty or non-existent and they had almost NO marketing for LTE devices (and no accessories) and clearly focused on their HSPA device line up. Plus being waterproof makes it much easier to market and sell the Acro HD domestically.

However, due to the presence of the GX, I would say that this pushes Acro HD down to the mid-market (when in an area with good LTE coverage). The Xperia SX would take up a proper position in the mid-market. The lower end of the market is serviced by the myriad of feature phones but Sony has dropped out of the feature phone market domestically so no more Sony Cybershot phones. (Still would like a Sony NEXus Camera/Phone though haha)
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
I don't know whether it is "interesting" and they will probably won't give any sincere answers, but nonetheless I am curious:

Current phones need to be recarged at least daily and the "user experience" of the microUSB plugs is frankly crap, often topped with fiddly flaps (XS).

What hinders the innovation in this area? Why don't we see any phones with wireless charging or at least standardized (among own products) docking solution with some proper connectors (for example, pogo-pins)?

Each vendor is dreaming about a differentiation as a way to tether the customers to their ecosystem. Reusable docs (work, home, car, bicycle) are perfect way to make the customer think twice before changing brands. And source for additional revenue if priced right. Why it is wasted?

Speaking about recharging frequency: can we expect more adequate batteries than current rather paltry 1700-1800mAh?
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
3 more days to go, Im so excited right now, hope Sony will not disappoint us :))
[Xperia Z General] hei133:
Well... I would say it's not really mid range yet, more like last year end top range. Besides, I feel even if something on paper has the top specs and every single desirable feature up to date, if those features are not well put together, it could really end up worse than a well executed lower spec device with top frustration to go along with the top specs...

I just got the acro s myself, decided to stop waiting for TX/T cos even after announcement in IFA next week, god knows probably it might end up another 3 mths before I see it in here back home which is already 2013.... Cannot stand my spare phone anymore... Besides, thought it's no longer a "top" phone in the market, it's good enough to met most requirements: stability, voice quality ( I still do need a phone... ), battery life to last a day, high density beautiful screen, sd card, good camera with dedicated key, nice design etc. It should be more than sufficient to use until end 2013 when "true" Sony handsets come out for further consideration.

I find power/vol/camera buttons are bit stiff to press though.....
[Xperia Z General] 71nh0:
Great!
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
I'm tempted by the Acro S, I have the Xperia S, with a yellow patch, but I'd like the bigger battery, SD slot and water resistance.
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
According to Xperia blog Leaked NTT DoCoMo roadmap points to upcoming Xperia Nexus?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Ancient news dude ;) take a look at page 183. I call the leaked roadmap fake.
[Xperia Z General] robimarko:
It looks like Xperia LT is coming to US.

Sony has registered Xperia LT trademark in USPTO.

You can search it.It has not been registered anywhere in Europe so it looks like it is gona be US Exclusive
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
This was just posted today on Xperia blog. Maybe they were late...:p
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Yeah, Xperia Blog seems to be in a slow period for the next while so their reporting is a bit behind.
[Xperia Z General] wing_zero8556:
Yeah they were away for a bit so they said they would be slow