yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
The ion won't be completely global, ever. It won't be released in Europe, for example. It's just the US (LT28at) and some select markets.

unknown13x, you are a bad bad person. I have exams, I want to be able to concentrate without having to check XDA and the Sony press sites every 15 minutes :D I sort of expect the Hayabusa (LT29i, whatever it might be named) to be announced for the international markets.
[Xperia Z General] Aruman:
Damn unknown13x, you are killing me
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
Provided that people actually understand what they are buying. Otherwise it would be the same stupid "the more the better" numbers race, like that megapixel insanity we had a few years ago. As it currently looks, the multicore is on its way to turn to the same kind of hype.

Actually, it does hurt. That's why it is not a very useful analogy. While multitouch does not cost you anything (except money), multicore actually costs you energy and performance regardless if you actually use it or not. Even if you switch off the unneeded CPU's you will still drain more power than with a "native" dualcore.

As it currently stands, CPU designers are forced to operate within certain thermal and die area budgets. You simply can't go over them, no matter how many cores you have. More cores means less area per core. And less power to consume.

Current technology (no matter by which manufacturer) basically offers 2 opposites: quicker and hotter or slower and cooler (but not necessary more power efficient).

So, if you opt for 4 cores, you are forced to make them simpler (because of available space) and limit the maximum clock (because of thermal budget) as you would do it for dual core.

This is why Samsung quadcore clocks only to 1.4Ghz and according to the first tests seems to offer much worse single thread performance than dualcore qualcomm S4. So it will be actually slower than qualcomm S4 on single thread performance and more or less similar on multithreaded. So, where is that quadcore advantage again?

The processing power is not the same thing as processing power. Ir does not simply add up. Better singlethread performance sustainable over longer periods of time will bring you much further as lower singlethread performance with occasional short quadcore bursts (before throttling kicking in due to the overheating).

Of course it would take a usability hit. Just look at the HTC OneX.

As for the being "future proof" there are 2 very important things to consider:

1. You do not want current quadcores running on their full power. Or your phone will get painful to hold and simply throttle itself getting even slower.

2. Given the dual- and quadcore with a similar raw performance, in the real life dualcore will be mostly significantly quicker as quadcore. And never vice versa. So, if quadcore exynos and tegra are considered "future proof", then dualcore S4 is future proof too. The same can't be said vice versa.

3. Most of the things can't be parallelized in any meaningful way because of their sequential nature. And for the cases where they can, more often than not it would be much better handled by GPU. It is not because "developers are lazy". There really are not a lot of ways to break the average task in several independent chunks.

Try it yourself, you will see what I am talking about. Just write some useful application and try to "optimize" it for quadcore. You will see how little you will find worth to reimplement multithreaded. And even less to occupy more than 2 threads.

Anyway, the current "sweet spot" seems to be a dualcore.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
More Xperia Z1 Pictures Leaked :D
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
Its huge!!
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
It looks like z ultra size
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Makes me hope the mini version is real, you'd have an ideal range of models to pick from. All high end, just pick the size you want. Unlike the other ranges where you sacrifice features and power for smaller size.
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
It's not much bigger..

C6603 ?
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
nice I can't wait
[Xperia Z General] :
ugly .
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
The bezel is thick...

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gm007 please :p
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
Tea but z was already a bit big, dont get me wrong but why can't it be like the s4 for example in size I mean, is it that difficult? The s4 I pretty much like my S now and it has a 5''! I just don't get it
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Xperia Z1 Model
[Xperia Z General] wednesday13:
Is it just me or z just looks better than this honami?
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
+1
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
I thought that the size of this new phone was exactly the size of the Z, with slightly different materials and details (like the headphones jack without cover).

For me, Z is already at my "pocket" limit and if the extra size is because of the camera I won't get in that megapixel race.

Finally, although these photos are not top quality, the Z really look more refined. For instance, what is that charging point? Additionally, that grid at the bottom is just terrible.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
If honami is little bigger than Z and has bigger battery so why not ;)
[Xperia Z General] jumper62:
New video released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVwMu5fvns&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Xperia Honami Screenshots from Official teaser Video.

Xperia Honami Screenshots from Official teaser Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVwMu5fvns

It looks #4 Sept is confirmed now.

pics via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/08/...er-launch-date-at-ifa-event-berlin-confirmed/
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
For those who want to see the video here ;)

3...2....what comes next? #Sept4 #bestofSony

[YOUTUBE]alVwMu5fvns[/YOUTUBE]

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If Xperia Z1 comes with this bezel then will be great :D

Image was edited.
[Xperia Z General] QualQuek:
Speaker at bottom are really good idea, with my Z i often block the speaker with my right hand when i use it, also no risk anymore to damage your phone with water with the jack, also a good news!
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
Cool led position

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
In former times, one should never buy any tech device immediately after launch because of possible manufacturing problems (Z's back plate getting unglued, anyone?) that would be solved in latter production sets. Nowadays, if we wait a few months after launch your flagship product will be obsolete and the money for value will have a strong decay.

The only solution is going for bargains when the product that fulfils your needs is already at the bottom shelf.

This short innovation cycles make me crazy...

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] m3lover1:
Great was going to return my xperia z this weekend but now I see a scratch on the screen. Granted it's on the anti shatter film but not sure if it's returnable with the asf off.

Anyways honami looks awesome. Can't wait!
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
what is that slit or small opening in the middle of the upper back side of Honami? Right next to the rim? Is it used to access the back cover and remove it?
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Secondary mic..? Or really a removable battery?? :D
[Xperia Z General] m3lover1:
Not removable battery. Maybe second mic..
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Or maybe a led.
[Xperia Z General] thalada:
Guess, the black version of Honami is better than the white version.
[Xperia Z General] m3lover1:
Purple!!!
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
Not sure if the version in the video is black or just so bad lightning that the grey outline boarder looks black.

IMHO all those leaked pictures with silver boarder look horrible!

i prefer all black like my Z.
[Xperia Z General] thalada:
+1 the silver ones looks horrible.

I have used both white & black Z but i preferred the white one :good:
[Xperia Z General] m3lover1:
Agreed with the silver border. Oh well.
[Xperia Z General] john5220:
I can't believe people are so stupid and blind to actually believe the honami has silver borders

Any 3 year old on this planet can clearly see its a lighting issue it was done intentionally to simulate a sort of hyper glossy bright look. To make it look as it shines for marketing purposes.

From different angles the exact SAME borders are completely black

wow people use your brain.

BTW onto real issues how much will this cost?

And do you all think the sony logo will be embedded onto the display?

And has the back plate getting unglued on original Xperia Z been fixed by Sony or will you have to buy this new one to have that problem fixed?
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
People are stupid and blind. Let the 3 years old answer your questions!
[Xperia Z General] jumper62:
Notification light?

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/08/27/new-honami-pic-shows-notification-light/
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Honami L39h Model ( Z1 ) Network License Passed

Xperia Honami ( Z1 ) L39h Chinese Model Network License Passed just now. ( by

Telecommunication Equipment Certification Center MIIT, spotted at Tenaa. )

4 Profile pics of Xperia Honami appears.

SOURCE - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/08/28/xperia-honami-z1-l39h-model-network-license-passed-official-picture-exposed/

Below you can find the passed network license info for Xperia Honami L39h model.

License No. – 02-A473-133510

Applicant – Sony Mobile Communications (China) Co., Ltd.

Manufacturer – Sony Mobile Communications (China) Co., Ltd.

Device Name – WCDMA digital mobile phone

Equipment Type – L39h

Equipment Origin – Beijing

Issuing Date – 2013 -8-20

Valid until - 2016 -8-20

Note :

1) This device supports WCDMA (R6 version, support for HSDPA / HSUPA) / GSM (GPRS) standard;

2) Operating system: Android;

3) has a safe way WAPI wireless LAN capabilities.
[Xperia Z General] herasymcuk:
It's the Z1i (honamy mini)---not the Z1. :)
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Nope it's the Z1
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Xperia Z1 / Xperia Honami C69XX 14.1.G.1.518 firmware certified by PTCRB

Xperia Z1 / Xperia Honami C69XX 14.1.G.1.518 firmware certified by PTCRB.

[ 4 Xperia Z1 versions coming as - C6943, C6906, C6903 and C6902 L39h Chinese version as mentioned on PTCRB site.

via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/08/29/xperia-z1-aka-honami-c6943-c6906-c6903-and-c6902-l39h-14-1-g-1-518-firmware-certified-by-ptcrb/

PTCRB
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
I really hope Sony will release the unlocked C6906
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
Which exactly is the lte/3g international version?
[Xperia Z General] mitsosoft:
C6903
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
This is the previous leaked photo,just make it clearer.

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Xperia Z1 Dummy

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[Xperia Z General] spida_singh:
screen looks amazingly clear :D

Very very tempted with this phone.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
It's a dummy, you're looking at paper behind plastic :P
[Xperia Z General] spida_singh:
LOL! Ooops. :D
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Is it confirmed it has a notification led?
[Xperia Z General] mitsosoft:
Yep! ;)
[Xperia Z General] Sumedha Kapoor:
Any News on the Release Dates? Can't wait to get one. :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
I like the new XDA application :D
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Cool huh :D

Sent from voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Its getting announced on 4th September.

[MENTION=4072194]sumedha[/MENTION] - I heard 18th Sep is the launch date in India.

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] Sumedha Kapoor:
Thanks, Thats great news, but its sooooooo far, I am already bored with my z ultra. :silly:
[Xperia Z General] :
if you get bored so fast why would you get the honami

it has the same things as the ultra nothing new except camera and ui
[Xperia Z General] Sumedha Kapoor:
The reason I got bored from it is because of its size, When I talk to someone keeping that *HUGE* phablet on my ear in public, everyone around me starts seeing me as an clown. :p So, I always end up using it just for watching movies and my other phone for calls and other stuff. :silly:
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Ultimately, I think this is why despite the phone abilities, a lot of people will just be seeing the Z Ultra as a smaller version of the Tablet Z. It's what puts me off (that and the lack of an LED lamp for the camera) getting one - even though I can imagine it being great for media consumption.

I wonder how well the Z Ultra will sell, and if it will end up as a 'nice' product that doesn't go on to be very successful.

Honami, on the other hand, should be popular - if only because the Z was a great product and this hasn't really messed about with the formula. It has merely improved things like the display, camera (possibly - it might still be really noisy in low light), battery and now has the camera key. I'd say performance is boosted too, but it's not as if the Z was lacking in this department anyway.
[Xperia Z General] daan11:
IR blaster ?

Does anyone have information about ir blaster? Can not see anything that would indicate on the photos
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
Is there any info about size and weight of Z1? Anything bigger than Z will be already too much for me.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Pretty much the same by the looks of it. Maybe a bit thicker, to squeeze in the larger battery.

I'm perfectly happy with the Z (CPU, RAM, storage and even the display) but a larger battery and the camera button might swing things.

Oh, who am I kidding, of course I'll end up with one. :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
wooohhhh !!

You must be Ambani of XDA, buying Xperia Honami after Xperia Z Ultra :p

By the way how much ZU costs in India, other than size any complains, battery, screen, performance, etc?
[Xperia Z General] Sumedha Kapoor:
Well, I am not ambani but I work as an Editor at iHackers plus my boyfriend is the CEO. :p I will make honami as my gift from him for my birthday or any other special day whichever comes near the release date. Hehe :D

When I bought ZU it was somewhere above Rs 46,000 but as I am seeing things now it has fallen to Rs 44,500. I personally enjoy watching movies and playing games on it and the performance is quite amazing too but the battery sucks, I guess it is because of the biggy wiggy screen that it has got plus other this and that. :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Cool :highfive:

I am waiting for Xperia Z1 (Honami), if its coming with S-Master chip & good battery life - m switching from XZ to XZ1 !!
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
I think I will wait for Zn... I have wife and kids to feed... :D

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] thalada:
Samsung Galaxy Note III, Xperia Z1 release dates spilled by 3 UK roadmap

Till a month to go :(
[Xperia Z General] jumper62:
Nice. Contract run out soon so going for z1 hopefully
[Xperia Z General] kbadone:
Same here! I got sick of carrying my Walkman F806 and xperia Z, if they just put that S-Master chip it!! Day one purchase!!
[Xperia Z General] japjit100:
I m very happy India is first to get Sony Xperia z1
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
LOL

Sony Xperia Z Ultra & Sony Xperia Tablet Z were in the Samsung list...
[Xperia Z General] thalada:
Nice catch, i missed it.

:D
[Xperia Z General] snehil93:
So note 3 is gonna go head to head with z1.... How does the note 3 fare against the z1? Ne1 up to date with note3 rumors?
[Xperia Z General] :
samsung is better in everything..

i hate the z screen i wish the bravia engine was working with the launcher
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Sorry but that's a pretty useless response. The Z1 screen is totally different to the Z, no one has seen the note 3 yet, and they aren't even competing in the same target market.

We'll find out once they are out.
[Xperia Z General] snehil93:
Yeah i knw they're not the same target market n all.... Note 3 is officially a phablet.... N z1 is what? Just a big phone.... Neways u can't avoid comparisons n competition when both the devices r releasing at the same time.... Customers deciding on purchases would really give both of them a thought.... So that's y i wanted to knw.... Anyone who has information on note 3 rumours.... Will sony be finally edging past Samsung? I really wish they would.....
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
battery wise, z1 should be better. 3000vs3200 , 5"vs5.7". Performance, the same. Looks and practicality, you know the answer..
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
you have an interesting signature ;)

Z, Z Ultra & Z1 :D

so is it a wishlist or u actually have the Z1?

14 or 15 sept is launch date for India (pretty sure about this)

seems my source was right about the Z1 name :D

btw i am surely getting the Xperia Z1! donations are most welcome!

on a holiday now, will be back on the 4th!

cheers!

regards,

DooMLoRD
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Do you know about the price..??
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
How come C6603 - 10.3.1.A.2.67 ? in you signature ?

Firmware not released yet nor certified, You have it ?
[Xperia Z General] mitsosoft:
Check your pm! ;)
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
no clue about price as of now...
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Is the aluminum frame for both white and black phones are made from the same materials?

I don't know but it looks like the white model frame is more glossy than the black one. What do.you think?
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
price i guess will be around 679 € in Europe.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I've heard that some of the press attending will be given a device this week, so if that's the case then the Z1 must be going on sale pretty soon after the announcement.

I'm gutted I'm not going to IFA this year to see it unveiled.
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Can someone answer me,please
[Xperia Z General] japjit100:
More photos leak

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/0...s-leak/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[Xperia Z General] m3lover1:
I'm excited! Couple more days to go!
[Xperia Z General] :
dont get excited it will be just like the z in 4 - 5 months when the xperia z 2 will be out with snapdragon 1000 or somthing like that
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
More Xperia Z1 C6930 Leaks

via - PhoneArena
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Why not with android 4.3?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Still 4.2.2 !!!

Cm'on Sony - what you are upto?

Almost everything same as Xperia Z (design wise I still like my XZ)

- No android 4.3

- No S-Master (m assuming its NOT there as you never mentioned)

- No Xenon Flash

- Screen size same 5"
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
i would want a stable system rather than a latest system and granted it is going to be updated, you don't want a new buggy phone :)
[Xperia Z General] knightpt:
Hum?

- Better display than XZ - Triluminus

- Better camera (well, at least in the MP race that everyone xcept HTC likes to do)

- Bigger Battery

- Much better CPU/GPU combo than XZ

- If you want bigger than 5'' you have the Z Ultra ?!

- Redesigned UI (well it was already present in the ZUltra, but not on Z stock)

Imho this is way more than enough to smile at this upgrade over the XZ, and you have to understand that this is only 6-7 months after the XZ not a year over upgrade !

The only things people can "complain" i guess is the increase in phone size over the XZ with the same screen size while it should be the other way round as smartphone technology is being developed (thinner bezels, yada yada yada).
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Because Sony likes to release a phone that is fast and bug-free and then make a mess of it with the next update (before then fixing that after a few weeks/months) and so on. I am sure it's an official policy to keep the blogs and forums going. :o

I know I'm going to want one, but I do still stick by what I said in that the Xperia Z is hardly obsolete - and it's going to be hard to notice the improvements in ordinary use. Maybe the screen when tilted, hopefully the battery life (but it has the faster CPU/GPU) and I'm sure the camera button will be VERY useful - but otherwise?

Come CES in January 2014, Sony will have its next flagship (maybe with an edge-to-edge screen?) UNLESS it decides to move towards an annual renewal schedule like most rivals are. It's certainly something to be aware of, and personally I hope it happens because the industry is already at a point where people are holding on to their smartphones for longer anyway.

My gut feeling is that the 20MP camera is going to be expected to perform much better in low-light (and more pixels often means the opposite), and the larger size will also attract negative reviews.

Still, come IFA, it won't just be this phone - Sony will also have new TV and camera stuff, and we'll hopefully see these funky lenses and possibly how the Z1 can record 4K video. I also hope that Miracast will now work with keeping a Wi-Fi data connection going, and wonder if the Z1 will be able to stream 4K/Ultra-HD to one of the new Sony 4K TVs?
[Xperia Z General] :
both use lcd display its just a diffrent panel

sony camera will suck even with 50 mega pixel look at the z pictures looks like 2 mp they suck at software

you right better cpu and gpu

and i belive the new ui will come to the xperia z
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
The new UI will definitely filter down to the others, as when Sony updates to 4.3 and rolls that out to the SP, Z, ZL, ZR etc - it will stand to reason that they won't want to make the job any more difficult than necessary.

Even the Xperia S changed look when it got Jelly Bean.

When it comes to the camera, I am not so bothered about more pixels as I'm already getting good photos (when the light is good) on my XZ. It's the photos in low-light that bother me. Even when setting things manually, many photos look absolutely terrible.

I want to see the Z1 fixing this and making it a better all-round camera, not just playing the numbers game to impress Joe Public that 20MP has to be amazing.

I also want to discover that the Z1 now has exceptional battery life with a 3,000+mAh battery inside. That could swing things for a lot of people, but if it turns out that the wonderful display and Snapdragon 800 cancels out the benefits, we're back to square one.

Sorry to sound negative - but these are my concerns. I hope Sony will address them tomorrow and convince me that I'm not going to be disappointed.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
According to released images it will have 1/2.3inch sensor which is big for a phone.
[Xperia Z General] knightpt:
I'm with you on that one. I would like to try the Z1 and i keep telling myself that i'll love the increased battery life (heck, even if it's confirmed later to be only as low as 1% increase over my XZ lololol ) and better screen viewing angles, but all in all the xperia Z is an amazing phone for me and more than pleases me in everything i do in a daily basis.

I have very few addictions in life and the smartphone's one is definately the worst i have, i keep changing phones every 6 months or so but my xperia Z for some reason keeps me hooked.

Maybe it's the design, the feel in hand, i don't know, but i'm truly happy with it and not even the honami will keep me changing it, even tough on paper it is realy all that much better than mine. My xperia Z has a certain "je ne sais quois" that makes me sad to even think of leaving it.

Perhaps 2014 if the inovations are realy mindblowing and my XZ battery is tired from over-using it ;)
[Xperia Z General] japjit100:
You are right

S4 launch with 4.2.2 and it have full bugs
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
i don't think it is Z1,look at the clock widget,it has not same font.

And how could it be C6930?

So i think it is Xperia Z with Z1 Mods
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spyshots-of-the-Sony-Xperia-Z1-show-screen-in-action_id46973#3- PhoneArena published it.

Yes you said correct...XZ1 will have C6943, C6906, C6903. and C6902 .

May be the pic is edited or some another reason :silly: