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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
I'm tempted to get the Galaxy Nexus at this point instead of waiting for the DInc4G. Its not a long wait, but.... I love the screen on the Nexus and I love the dev community it has. The S4 versus the 4460 doesn't mean much to me.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
Keep in mind that you're giving up more than just the S4. You're giving up battery life, camera quality, Bluetooth 4.0, Sense, and I'm sure a few other things too.

Obviously the Nexus has a couple things going for it, but I would assume that there is a reason you were waiting for the Inc 4G in the first place. If you've waited this long already, what's another 2 or 3 weeks? Besides, didn't you say earlier in this thread that you weren't eligible for an upgrade until July anyway?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
I'm willing to cut my losses on the camera, Sense, S4, etc. I never particularly liked Sense save for a few widgets. I have a TF201 that I can use to substitute as a camera (don't care much at all for phone cameras) if need be and if I need some raw power. I'll never be away from an outlet for more than 4 or 5 hours at a time, so the battery life doesn't matter to me. I know Bluetooth 4.0 gives better power consumption, but I literally never use Bluetooth. And Beats audio is just an EQ gimmick.

I guess that in whatever the Nexus lacks, I have something to make up for it.

My first smartphone was the original DInc, so I'm naturally drawn to the new one. It comes out at the perfect time, too. I would get it in July when my contract is up as a birthday present.

I just really want that Nexus screen... Plus, we don't know how much of the DInc4G we'll be able to tamper with. If we have to use HTCDev to unlock the bootloader, that means no changing of the radios (and the kernel too?). The GNexus is a guarantee for me. And I'll admit that the pulsing RGB notification LED it has is also very nice XD
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
I'll give you the pulsing RGB notification... that is pretty cool.

As for the rest, I suppose it's personal preference. I wouldn't rule out the screen on the Inc 4G just yet either... early indications are that it's pretty great (unless you were purely referring to size)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
kernels can be flash s-on through fastboot

and id imagine s-off will happen for inc 4g when it happens for one x/one s (well if, not when)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
Thanks for clearing that up.

Hopefully they both can achieve s-off. If so, I may choose the Inc4G.

I'm really just drooling over the resolution on the Nexus... I'm not one for huge screens, but I checked one out in a Verizon store and I was very impressed, and it didn't feel too big at all. Also couldn't tell at all it was Pentile. I had a Droid 3 from last July up until 2 weeks ago, and I hated that screen to death. Loved it outside, hated it indoors. qHD at 4 inches is a decent resolution. But it could be better.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
Yea, I'm not worried at all about development for the Inc 4G. The dev community for the original Inc was one of the best around. Granted, there are A LOT more devices now, so that alone will thin the ranks a bit, but I still expect a sizable development community... Especially since I don't mess around with rooting and all that until after my warranty expires anyway... 1 year into this phones life, I know it will be fully rooted, bootloader unlocked, etc. and will have an established development community. But I can certainly see how some people want the dev support right away, and cant wait a few months for it to build up.

I'm not so sure that it could be. 720p at 4" would be 367ppi... and I don't know that that is even possible. And if it is, it would surely drain battery like you wouldn't believe. The only way to squeeze a slightly higher ppi out of it would be to pick some weird, non-standard aspect ratio, which wouldn't really be an improvement.

Personally, I'd take 275ppi/non-pentile over 316ppi/pentile any day, and the fact that it's SLCD over SAMOLED is just a bonus. But you're obviously entitled to your own opinion.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] icon123:
Ironically enough I got a nexus. It was suppose to be my dream phone. Didn't think pentile would bother me. I couldn't stand looking at that thing. Plus the radio was horrid and probably partly responsible for the terrible battery life. I thought the rezound was a better fit and a nicer phone all around. But it has other issues. To each their own.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
That... Does not sound appealing.

Did you ever take it back for a replacement? (for the signal problem) I've read all over the GNex forum that its a hit-or-miss. Some people have issues, some don't.

You really hated the screen? What about it?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] icon123:
It looked dull and unimpressive inside. Colors looked washed out. Outside it was OK. Same thing with the Droid razor. I think it bothers some more than others. If you actually saw the display and liked it, then that's all that matters. As far as the radio, its a known issue. It's just not good. I have had lots of phones and this by far has had the worst radio of the all. If your in a good coverage area then you might be OK. At my house which normally is OK, it kept switching from 3g to 4g and the battery dropped 25% overnight (6 hours). YMMV. Good luck.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Senryo:
From what I've read about the GNex at another site I frequent that focuses on top-end hardware of all sorts, there are a few quirks with the GNex:

Firstly, the radio issue is a firmware issue. Once proper firmware for the GNex was leaked, people started updating their builds with the new firmware. The difference was night and day, but Verizon is still dragging its feet on OTA updates for it (waiting for 4.0.3 or 4.0.4, I forget which). Either Verizon or Samsung put the radio sensitivity too high and gave radio software false readings, causing it to think that a normal 5-bar signal was barely connectable. After the firmware leak was applied, everyone said their battery life and connectivity improved tremendously. In short, sounds like if you want a GNex you better be prepared to take the phone into your own hands in more ways than one =) though some would argue that's the purpose of a Nexus device.

Secondly, the screens are imperfect. While CDMA versions tend to be better than GSM (no one knows why), but there are issues. Banding, poor reproduction, color shift, and off-whites were issues. I never heard anything about the colors being washed though, quite the opposite. Many mentioned that the colors were too saturated. Text and other fine-line items are usually the issue with pentile displays. As for outside, I've yet to see a phone in person that handles daylight well.

Screens are still largely subjective, as everyone has different opinions, criteria, vision, and appeals to what they want in a screen. Throw in that no two screens are made the same, and there are a number of things that could've gone wrong with your synergy with the phone. Sorry to hear that you had a bad taste with it.

I'm still annoyed that the AMOLED tech hasn't improved to last longer. I'm sure it has improved, but not at the rate I would like I saw a GNex in the Verizon store today that displayed mostly brown instead of the white browser background from displaying all the time. It was really a sad thing to see, having only been out for 6 months or so. I'm in love with the idea of OLED, but those blues have to improve.

Apologies if this was long winded.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] iTreezy:
Now that MIUI supports 720p themes, I am having a really hard time not buying a Gnex. I can't bring myself to buy a phone that came out so long ago. Plus custom soft keys are so cool =)

But I'm still holding out until the Ding 4g comes out just to compare them
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] incubus26jc:
Sorry folks. No disrespect. I have made my decision.

After tons of thinking and Verizon's recent announcement

And the fact that its being released for Sprint, Tmobile and Verizon

The dev community will be huge.

I'm going with the Samsung Galaxy S3.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
I don't blame you... Unless you loathe big screens with a passion, there is no reason why not to go for the S3...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] blazingwolf:
I've started to have second thoughts myself. I have to agree with your assessment that there will be a great dev community for the device. I just have to decide if my dislike for Samsung phones can be over come by that (bad experience with them from another phone).
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Senryo:
I am one of those. I already have a tablet; I don't need two =) I also am not gifted with large hands, so 4.0" is a good size for me.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
It's not just the fact that the Incredible's screen is a better size... it's also just better.

On top of that, the #1 reason that I'm still getting the Incredible is Sense. TouchWiz is garbage, and there's no way I'm getting a phone with that mess on it. Sure, I could always flash an AOSP-based ROM, but I can never flash Sense 4.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] wpbear:
Hope it comes out soon before too many developers go in other directions.

Seeing the recent history of things like the Rezound wifi tether not working without custom ROMS, stock ROMS overheating etc....the lack of developers could really hurt.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] faehsemc:
Think I might be on that bandwagon if its not realeased early enough.... I just wish sense 4 would work on it
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] npompei:
I am completely with you - here is the thing: I have seen so many awesome custom widgets and homescreens in the SG3 forums that it nearly makes TW disappear! After seeing that type of customization (without rooting) it really really makes me consider one now. I need to see them in hand first though, that's what this is going to come down to.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
If Sense was just a theme that could be approximated, then I'd agree, but that's not really the case. It's more than just custom widgets and homescreens.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] npompei:
Yes I agree again - im just saying that initial 'oh god that is hideous' thought can be disguised!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
I understand what you mean, but disguising it isn't really my problem.

It's not that I don't want TouchWiz (I don't, but that's not the point)

It's that I do want Sense 4.

So I can disguise the ugliness of TouchWiz all I want, or just wipe it off completely and go AOSP (which I probably would do right away if I got the SGSIII)... but that doesn't get me any closer to actually having Sense 4, which is what I want.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Completely agreed with this, which is why I'm so adamant about getting the Inc 4G as my next phone. I've been searching tirelessly for a Sense 4.0 theme for CM9 that accurately depicts Sense 4.0, and although using Sense Holo and the Sense-style clock widget on my Inc has been nice, it's nowhere near the real thing. After looking at Sense 4.0 screenshots, I can't go back to the stock ICS look.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] times_infinity:
If nitsuj17 and aeroevan get one, I'll see if I can find a way to get one. Seeing how my upgrade isn't till next year... Gotta keep the TSM Sense duo of nitsuj17 and times_infinity together.. lol
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] sureal00:
i think alot of people and devs moved on to the samsung galaxy nexus last november.It also seems the s3 is getting alot of attention and many people who were waiting for the incredible 4g are kinda fed up(myself included)I am very close to pre ordering the s3 it looks very nice and is already getting dev development
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] cvo515:
My thoughts exactly. Im getting one when it comes out anyway though. So i hope all you are too. TSM has some nice stuff out there. Keep it up. You guys still planning on getting it?

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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Alton (Halo 2):
I am
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] :
I'm getting one as soon as I can. Funds are low atm but that's my upgrade when it comes around.

Hopefully by then you'll already have some nice roms out for it
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
yeah im getting it one way or another...probably buy the sgs3 w/ my last upgrade pre next thursday and then sell it to put towards buying an inc 4g off contract

im sure we will :)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] KrisPeezy:
Does anyone know the policy for phones from best buy? Like buying at subsidized price, how long does it have to be active on the line before I can sell it to another person?

I know transferring the phone between lines under the same plan isn't a problem, but it's different when it gets transferred to another person's line.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] faehsemc:
Its OK if you keep that sgs3 also... lol. I love your roms. I would look forward to a megakangbangbusstop or something from you on it. :D
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] blazingwolf:
Picked up a Rezound today from Best Buy. Maybe I will be able to exchange it for the Inc4G but if not I won't complain to much since I was able to get paid to get the phone. :)

Got $100 for the Inc 2.

Got $50 upgrade freedom.

No upgrade fee. :)

They price matched the Verizon Wireless $80 price.

Money in my pocket. :D

Hope to be back in this forum soon but if not good luck with your phones everyone. :cool:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Stam2000:
Any chance of a Rom from ya before you sell the sgs3? Love your sense 4
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] edster00:
I went from og Dinc to Dinc2...I want this phone bad, just need to talk the bookkeeper (wife) into it! I'm eligible for upgrade in Aug. will prob. wait 'till then.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Skidoo03:
Gonna get it Friday!!! :highfive:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] pwned3:
Anyone know the full retail price for it yet?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
nope never ordered one, burned our last upgrade off to the get the wife an iphone 4s so she could stop complaining about her tbolt's batt life

gonna use one of my parents upgrades (they were already on tiered data anyway) to grab the inc 4g

supposedly $499
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] slacka-vt:
My local VZ store opens at 9:00am Thursday, July 5th. I will have an Inc 4g in my possession at 9:01am, Thursday, July 5th. :highfive:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] eng3:
I'm still on the fence. pre-ordered the SGIII. If the size is really too big to comfortably fit in my pocket and/or the inc4g is better in some way (like if the camera is better), I may sell the SGIII and buy a Inc4g.

I will have to wait for the full reviews.

I do like sense, and I thought there was a rom called sense4all or something that was suppose to give other phones sense. I'm not sure successful they've been though.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] thephased:
I'm still trying to figure out if the Dinc 4g LTE is a good buy for me.

I have a Dinc2 that I got shortly after it was released in 2011. I have an upgrade on the same line available, but I'm not entirely sure I can justify getting the 4g LTE or any other phone on Verizon for that matter right now. Galaxy S3 doesn't interest me too much, but the Galaxy Nexus does. The latter I realize is kind of outdated hardware now, but being able to use Jelly Bean would be cool.

I'll probably wait until some reviews are out for the Dinc 4g LTE and make a decision then. I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys (XDA community) think about it and how quickly it's rooted/custom roms/etc.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] slacka-vt:
Just picked-up my Dinc 4G this morning, the second my VZ store opened. Cost me $106.99. They applied my $50 rebate directly to the purchase. I am one happy camper.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] HypostaticOnion:
Make a video. Lol I wanna see this bad boy put through its paces.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
There's no doubt about it, I will get this phone when i can afford it, on an upgrade due in Aug.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NOsquid:
Sorry if you've already answered this elsewhere, haven't read the forums much lately.

Why are you favoring this phone over the SGS3? Is it the size or do you just not want to deal with Samsung software anymore?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
neither phone is particularly likely to see aosp anytime soon (though we ll see)

but i prefer working on sense roms vs touchwiz roms, and can still work on miui using a sense base

too many miui.us guys are getting sgs3, so i really wouldnt be able to do miui for it (touchwiz based)

both phones launch w/ ics....but id all but guarantee that inc 4g sees jb and whatevers next...whereas the samsung/vzw combo on the sgs3 could be a slow and terrible upgrade process

i dont need a huge screen, and have gotten to like the inc2 form factor

so this is the phone for me :victory:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NOsquid:
Thanks for the reply.

Samsung always makes tasty hardware but the software update experience on the Fascinate has me tipping towards the Inc4G. Glad you're on board.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] magneticzero:
:p
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] VicVinegar:
I had to burn my upgrade before 6/28, but I am not ruling out swapping the S3 for one of these. If it was available when I ordered, it would have been a tough choice. I'm a bit hesitant about the S3's size, and I'm watching the progress on the locked bootloader. I haven't even received my ship notice for the S3 yet, so I am watching both threads.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] eng3:
I'm wondering how many devs creating custom ROMS there will be for the Inc4g vs the SG3. Although if I'm going to be stuck with a stock rom, I'd prefer the HTC one.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] marky2mark:
I just priced it out....to switch from my current unlimited data plan to the share everything 2G plan will cost me $27/mo. For the 4G plan it's $35/mo. For a phone that basically does what my current OG DINC does, only a little faster. And doesn't have global capability.

I'll pass for now. If they come out with the global fix this month and I can get one off contract for less than 400, I might jump.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
Both will be in a similar boat aosp wise

Im sure in terms of number of roms vzw gs3 will have more but we all have good stuff too
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] joefrog1996:
How is the built quality of the phone? The outer shiny part looks like plastic, is it? I have a dinc 2 and I'm considering upgrading. Will this phone last?

I don't think ill upgrade becuase my phone will run sense 4 soon enough, and I don't live in a LTE area. So it may not be worth it. But I like to keep my options open.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] slacka-vt:
Personally owning the Inc, Inc2 and Inc4G and have them right in front of me, the build quality is 10X better than the Inc2. The battery cover is rock solid.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
hell yea dude! thanks for the review bro!, I for sure will be getting mine within days
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] maqsur:
Build quality seems fine. Back cover I'm noticing now has slight flex, much like the rezound back cover. Gonna see if putting a folded piece of paper between the battery and cover make it stop.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] joefrog1996:
If my phone gives out ill upgrade, right now 500$ seems a bit much
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] MunkinDrunky:
As of late my preference has jumped back to droid incredible 4g since the boot loader is unlockable from HTC website. I had kinda been set on the SGS3 for the past few weeks but if the bootloader remains locked like the droid x2 has then Droid 4g it is. Right now I use the X2 as my main phone and I also have a samsung fascinate for my messin round phone. All the ICS roms on the fascinate and its unlocked bootloader make me wan the DINC 4g all the more- with its unlockable bootloader.

Either way I go in phone choice, I have to scrounge and save to buy at full retail price to keep unlimited data. I can live with paying 500, granted it will take several months, but would be worth it.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] ILikeBubbles:
if someone (hopefully you if you can manage the time... :( i'm sorry i know you're so over worked!!!) ports MIUI for it. i'm most definitely 100% going to get it. even right now i'm debating getting it tomorrow but i don't want to ditch your beautiful miui for htc sense... i know a lot of people like htc sense but i'd take miui over it any day.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
i probably wont start work on miui until a) i set up the inc2 for builtbot and b) we get some sense roms going on this phone

i anticipate banging my head into the kb repeatedly since ive never ported it using sense before...which theoretically should make it more stable in the long run....but harder to get going short term
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dreamkiller80:
Hopefully I will be able to get one sooner rather than later but seeing as some of my favorite devs from inc2 are coming here this will be my upgrade choice, that and I love my inc2 so I can't wait to test out the newest model

Sent from my Ultimate Kang-Banger with magic
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PatimusXPrime:
you guys are making it hard NOT to go out and blow all my savings on a new shiny inc4g... after reading up on it and seeing what everyone has said about it i would LOVE to own one im just reluctant to get rid of my unlimited data plan so that really kills my chances of getting it for cheap...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] ILikeBubbles:
i appreciate your work soo much!! i wish i could do more to support you! but i promise that once i get into the military and start getting a steady paycheck i'll start doing what i can to help you out like you've helped me out for about a year now!! :D

p.s. i finally looked at your xda profile... you have SO MANY roms and threads going O.o how do you do it??

edit: OH ALSO!! what is the code name for the incredible 4g? i know the dinc2 was vivow.. but i can't seem to find the name for the incredible 4g
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
I believe its Fireball. Kind of a scary name after the Rezound heat issues eh?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
you have been more than appreciative in all my threads, thats thanks enough :highfive:

yeah, i dont actively maintain that many roms anymore (on inc2 only ones ive worked on in last 2 months are sense4 and miui)....at one point i think i had 2 on the fascinate and 4 or so on the inc2 being continually updated...that was a bit much lol
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] void4ever:
Well i went ahead and put in my order today, can't wait to give it a try!

Void4ever
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] macdroid01:
Problem with the S III is the sh!t screen.

Dim. VERY dim. I just looked at Inc 4G. Sure I wish it was bigger. But the SIII screen is junk. I'm blown away so few people call it out. I know "quality" is objective but brightness is not. Also PenTile is visilble on S III. AMOLED colors are bizarre and Google Maps looks like crap on S III. Plus ink marks, black rush, tints, etc on and on. SAMOLED is just garbage.

I wanted an S III. But I am pretty sure in a day or two when my S III comes in I'm switching to the Inc 4G.

A few questions:

Is it easy to root or S-off or whatever, to do the following?

1. Convert multitask button to Settings. Longpress home to multitask. Makes so much more sense to me. (I'm coming from Droid)

2. FM Radio?

3. tethering via WiFi? I wish FoxFi would just work without root even...

4. Does Inc 4G do USB Mass Storage? or frickin' MTP?

5. Does Inc 4G mirror entire display to HDMI or just certain videos?