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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] x Eacott:
After thinking about...I almost don't think I would even want one of the new phones. As nice as the screens are that have a 720p res...the phone is too big. I use my buddies HD Desire a lot...and it feels too big already and I believe its a 4.3. Long story short...I've always used a 23" monitor, recently upgraded to a 27" because it looked nicer, but I ended up taking it back. The 4" does the phone justice, with the bump is res, I'm happy. It might look just as clean if the pixel density is lower? Who knows. The lte and sense 4 outta the box is awesome of course, which makes me feel like software updates in the future are going to be recieved a lot quicker. The Dual core I'm sure will make the inc4g fast as hell considering most of the inc2 kernals could get us OC pretty high...all in all..count me in for an Inc4G!:):)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] iTreezy:
And there wouldn't be any major issues like with the Dinc?

I'm assuming all the issues the Dinc has is because of no hwa?

Anyway i wonder if Markhoj will pick one up also.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] I Am Marino:
You guys better hope it's not plagued with a terribly hard to figure out RIL like the Rezound.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
Last time I talked to him, he was considering it iirc

The issue with the rezound is that no really experienced aosp devs had gotten it because of the.similar launch window of the.gnex

That's why I prefaced my statement with if Evan or someone along those lines
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] bukithd:
I get an upgrade in august and I just recently bought a used rezound because my old Inc pooped out. The farther HTC goes with sense the less I like it. Sense 4.0 is very nice interface wise but it is sooo overbloated beyond reason. I might just upgrade to the gnex in august even though it will be almost a year old by then. I just like vanilla andy.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] RegnierD:
Overbloated? It's based on Sense 2.1, which was a little less "snazzy" as 3.0+. I rather like it. The versions we have for the Inc2 are running very smoothly, and are only getting better. With native Sense 4, it's even better.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
Agreed...if anything sense 4 is a lot les bloated than 3.0 and 3.5....a big improvement imo
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] slacka-vt:
Two words: unlocked bootloader . I'm in and I got an upgrade just waiting . . .:D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1653875
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] jakob95:
According to this article it doesn't have the s4 processor,

http://htcsource.com/2012/05/verizons-droid-incredible-4g-lte-is-not-a-one-device/
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
its been confirmed as a s4 chip, but not the exact one in the one s or one x

one s uses 8260

one x, xl and evo lte uses 8960

looks like (based on it being 1.2 ghz dual core and not underclocked) the inc lte uses the 8930, since its lte/evdo capable
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] cac2us:
DInc4G

I was trying my best to hold out for an HTC with a real keyboard but that's a fail.

So when the rep told me about the BOGO on the LG Spectrum and NOT needing an upgrade on the other line, I jumped.

My wife likes the big screen, I hate the battery life.

We use the WiFi here at the park and have yet to activate either of them.

November I will be looking hard at this fine HTC device since it looks like HTC realized how important the Micro SD Card is.

Yea, a lot of good quad core is when you have to wait for a DVD size video to download instead of just power down, pop out, pop in, reboot and "Showtime".

It's sad that Lame Gonads (LG) plays that game of abandonment, but for $149.00 I got two toys to play with until this DInc4G comes out to play..

And the HD is real nice for those times when something real special happens right next to where you might be sitting.

But like I stated earlier, Skype is the only talking we will be doing on these.

At least until VZW offers the Family Share Data Plan???

I'm still lovin the DInc2 Reda that I have unlimited data with. Not too happy about mandatory 4G no matter how much faster it might be, I would rather have Global use over 4G uselessness.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] live2ride96:
Dammit, I WANT to love this phone. But every time news leaks about it, it just gets worse and worse. No Image Sense chip. No burst mode on the camera. Gimped version of the S4 chip. Price? Who the hell know right now? At the rate this is going, it probably will be the original $299 that leaked on the droid does site. Why, Verizon? Why won't you give us a decent next gen phone? This is probably the most excited I've been about switching networks, and the least excited for a phone. Go figure.

That being said, I'll probably buy it anyway, simply because I have GOT to get the hell off Sprint's network.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] iTreezy:
Well if you both are going to be developing I think we'll have a solid start for this phone. Now I just hope all the kernel devs work there way over.

I kind of hate myself because I really really really want the Asus Padfone but i think there is no way ever ever ever that Verizon will allow it on it's service.

The Incredible line has always been strong with devs (probably because the OG inc and evo were almost interchangeable) but let's hope we are graced with the option of several rom and kernel options that we've always had and it doesn't turn out to be a phone now one develops for (cough motorola devour cough samsung continuum cough)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
I will be getting this phone, very interested to see how the community will be, hopefullybmuch like the inc2
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] slacka-vt:
I am absolutely, positively going to get this device the day it comes out. I've got an upgrade and $$$ in hand.

Hey Bro, you think your XTC clip will be working on this device ?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] bukithd:
I loved my OG DINC easily moddable. I wonder if htc will have this phone be just as simple. If it is anything like the rezound, it will take forever to get CM9. This will be a better phone than the rezound most definitely but we won't if it is truly as good as it needs to be to earn the incredible name.

One thing at least, it will look better than the EVO 4g lte frankenphone. If I stay with verizon this might be my phone but switching to sprint is sooo tempting and I dont know why.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
unfortunately I highly doubt it :(

we got inc2 support because touchpro42 sent raskal (creator of XTC clip) an inc2 and raskal was able to get it working, but he had to send the phone knowing that it was a big possiblity that it may not even be able to be supported.

hopefully we do see s-off on this device at some point, even late than never is something. (Rezound)

but I can say that htc-dev-unlock you do get used to and is ALmost as good.

no flashing of splash screens, radios, stuff like that.

but I personally had too many issues with the rezound to stay on board, overheating, plus the fact that inc4g is 4' really sold me.

extremely happy to see you and justin on board. cant wait for this phone to drop.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
I see a lot of familiar faces here not to mention some solid devs. I agree with Andy I hope this ends up like the inc2 forums. I also have upgrade and cash in hand just need a release date. Nothing else on Verizon razr ew and I refuse to buy a nexus
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
I also have an upgrade, but I'm so torn about using the upgrade, or saving it, and buying the inc4g on eBay a few weeks after release.

Either way I'll be on this phone as it's something I feel I will easily use for the 20 months. and with phone screens just getting larger, this phone is ideal.

I would be disappointed however if a HTC One S variant arrives shortly after the inc4g.

4.3' screen I can deal with.

I liked the Rezound, but the width of the phone and overheating issues were not something I was sticking around for.

I will be waiting at least a week before purchasing the inc4g to see reports of battery heat. the Rezound and inc4g have very similar body frames (from pictures anyway), but hopefully whatever was/is causing the battery to overheat in the Rezound has been fixed in the inc4g.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
not that i wasnt going to get it previously, but given that there is no release date for any other verizon phone, this will probably be amongst the last few devices we can use an upgrade on and still keep unlimited...so that kinda would seal it for me
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
very good point, perhaps I may have to buy full price **eek** from Verizon to keep the unlimited. I guess not that I really every go anywhere near 2BG, sometimes I may need to tether and need the extra space, that's what it's there for and I don't wanna loose it :(
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Div033:
This phone may end up becoming the Bionic 2.

When I say that I hope you'd not assume I mean Verizon would change the name or HTC would sell their design to Moto, but rather examine the history of the Bionic.

1. The phone is announced. Everything is sunshine and rainbows. Hopes are high and wallets are open.

2. News keeps breaking hopes by confirming lesser specs than initially conceived. Wallets begin to close.

3. Phone has a very late launch and becomes irrelevent due to the next best thing just around the corner. Customers then open their wallets to those phones rather than invest in the now outdated mediocrity.

Anyone see the customs issues with the One XL and Evo One X? (Verizon said only the One phones have the ImageChip so Sprint must be lying about the name since the new Evo has it) Those issues are due to a lawsuit won by apple relating to the Sense software. The two phones being held at the border use Sense 4 just like the Incredible 4G. If issues persist, then we may be looking at a very late launch and thus the retelling of a sad bionical tale.

Blame Apple.

Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
1. i dont think when the phone was first announced it was all sunshine and rainbows...it had its detractors since the first leaks of info about it, and wasn't a must have device for many.

Not to mention the bionic was hyped for 9 months, and was supposed to be an LTE launch device

2. Idk, nothing seems lesser than the initial launch, perhaps the uncertainty over the exact processor (its still s4) and camera

3. There isnt really a next best thing coming (at least for HTC), and we have no indication when the SGS3 is coming to verizon (might be post data change), and its been announced so I think the inc 4g will launch soon (next week or week after for memorial day sales)

*The hold up with the one xl and evo lte may or may not effect the inc 4g, we ll see
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
yeah, a lot remains to be seen with what they actually force you onto...if individual lines are same data tiers...well 2gb (or if they still do the random double your data to 4g) for $30 isnt the end of the world, especially with $10 per extra gb you go over per month (ATT is limited to 2gb anyway, and tmobiles throttling after 2gb makes it useless)

the family shared data if it came in at 4/5 gb's for $50 wouldnt be awful either...but thats a big ? mark.

if the terms are awful, I'll probably begin to buy off contract as well.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tombepa:
Getting one. It's the perfect size and feels great in the hand. You can actually feel the power button too. Lol not like on the rezound or incredible 2.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] npompei:
Hey guys,

Just figured I would post this here since it might help some making a 3g-4g switch. I went into Verizon today and asked about my situation. My wife is up for an upgrade (has dumb phone) but I have unlimited data on my Dinc2. So I was wondering if I could use her upgrade, by switching lines, so I could get this new Inc4g and give her my Dinc2. But the real thing was being able to keep my unlimited data. The sales rep said yes I can keep the unlimited and use her upgrade. The only thing is she would have to sign a new 2yr plan going into their data plan as it is now which, if it still is going then, would be 4g for $30.

So that was great news. I wanted to get a 4g phone and keep my unlimited data without paying full retail. And its doable! So that is good news and hopefully this might clear up some things for people in a situation like mine.

Unless this phone gets some seriously horrid reviews I am getting it. This new S4 chip sounds killer, ICS and Sense 4 (I am a big HTC and sense fan) - this phone sounds great. It's a cousin of the x series. Its a bit lighter and thinner than my Dinc2 which is already a thin phone and light, at least in my book. I would want a 4.3" screen in a smaller form factor but for now this will do.

My hopeful plan is that I can use this until the holidays when the supposed Nexus lines all come out and see what happens in Verizons court. Maybe then I can give my wife the Dinc4g and get a new Nexus and stay on my unlimited data!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
When this comes out, can someone remap the buttons to:

Back: Back. Long press for search.

Home: Home

Multitask: Menu. Long press for multitask.

That on-screen menu button for some apps is going to take up screen real estate on this phone, and considering it's only 4", we need all the screen real estate we can get.

Also, "some" HTC phones have been let through customs. This is a good sign!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
Remapping those buttons is not a problem
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] bigdaddyblues:
Can't wait. My Eris needs to retire.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
You're still on an Eris?! O.o
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] I Am Marino:
That poor man.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Wake me up when September comes... I am guessing this phone is gonna take some time to release...

I hate apple now. Rather than fight a fair battle, it is taking the dirty road... with its ridiculous patents... the whole idea of patents was to let small inventors not be ripped off by big companies... that idea has long gone down the drain...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] RegnierD:
I plan on doing this when my Evo LTE comes in the mail today, and decided on the same arrangement. Great minds think alike! I'm going to be digging through the the file that maps the softkeys on my E3D to figure out what the mapping values are. I think the file is editable with Root Explorer, so hopefully the lone Menu software button does't pop up for very long.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] bigdaddyblues:
Workshed and CodemnedSoul did a great job with the Eris. I just want more internal memory and some more storage.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dpwhitty11:
****ing Apple and their patent-happy no-good business tactics. Hey lets do whatever we can to delay the launch of [electronics] from our competitors since we can't compete with them!

[/rant]

I hate Apple.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] itsmefu:
Yeah it definitely sucks. The US Patent system needs a major overhaul.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PhillyCheez:
if it's ANYTHING like the htc one S I just tested out I am buying this and I am very excited about it.

Could care less if it's "dated". The htc one S I just tested out makes me want to switch to t-mobile. it blew my mind.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
:( I'm having a bad case of the blue balls! :p
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
IMO it's better than the One S spec wise. You get NFC, SLCD2 screen, higher pixel density, Removable battery, and a microSD card slot! Not to mention it's on the nations fastest LTE network ;)

However, aesthetics wise, it could be better. Red and black happen to be my favorite colors though :D
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] renzo.olivares:
I'll probably get one :)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] :
Well that would be AWESOME! I can't wait for this to be released. About time to retire my Dinc. Not that it is a bad phone, it still preforms like a champ, but I would love to have fully functional/non laggy ICS and Sense 4.0 looks pretty neat. Not to mention I have over 800 charge cycles on the stock 1300 mAh battery.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PhillyCheez:
k... one thing that i am kinda bumming now that i researched a tad more... no image sense.

Anybody know if it will be possible to install image sense on this phone??? I took a pic with the one S and damn it looked good!!!

rooted of course.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
It does have the ImageSense software, just not the ImageSense chip which is in the One Series. It will still have a fantastic camera, one of the best available in the market, just not as good as the One series. The ImageSense chip allowed for the burst mode, and better picture quality. I'm sure the burst mode, or something similar can be added via ROM, but it probably won't be as quick as the One series.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PhillyCheez:
hmm... that's a bummer but liveable. It was more the quickness of the shot that the one S i tested amazed me.

Eff verizon for not allowing the One series on their network.

Either way... still getting this. still excited. Happy to go back (have a tb now) to the android phone that started it all for me... the incredible. I am just hating all these huge android phones out. They need more 4 inchers.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
Go watch some videos of the Droid Incredible 4G in action at CTIA. I don't think you'll be disappointed in the camera at all. It still has zero shutter lag.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PhillyCheez:
your right. :)

you can take pics WHILE filming... k... thats damn cool.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Mr. Highway, if I were to sell you my Dinc2 when the Dinc4GLTE comes out, would you be in the mood for some business??? Bear in mind, I am a poor college student who needs to fund his Dinc4GLTE off contract (my contract ends April '13)...

Of course, I can totally see myself nursing the Dinc2 till April '13, what with official ICS coming along our way and all... Then I could really buy some megaphone with Adreno 305/320 on it... But, this is just a backup plan..

Heck, my pals at the Droid X2 community managed to sell their phones for a charming $180-$200 on ebay! A phone without official ICS and hardly any support and that has bucket loads of problems! So, what is a fair price for this phone?

(I ain't selling anything here.. so don't come PMing and all. Just inquiring fellow Dinc2 owners and XDA members what a fair price for this device is)

EDIT: For those in doubt that this is on topic or not, lemme clarify by saying I am ALL in to buy the Dinc4GLTE... there, that is definitely ON topic! :D
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
Best news I've heard all week.

It has portions (or at least 1 portion) of ImageSense, but not all of it.

The only portion we know for sure that it has is VideoPic. There are a lot of features (including burst mode, which you mentioned) which HTC specifically notes are enabled by the ImageChip (it's called "ImageChip," not "ImageSense chip") so we can probably count on those not being part of it. Those are "Always Focus," "Continuous Shooting" (burst mode)," and "Low light" mode. It doesn't mention the ImageChip for the "HDR" mode, but reading the description it sure sounds like something that would require the additional quick processing capabilities of the chip, so who knows.

The only part of ImageSense that we can really count on at the moment though, is VideoPic. Hopefully it has more than just that, but as you said... the camera on this phone is still one of the best on the market regardless.

It's not zero, but it's still damn fast. Also, because it doesn't have the "Always Focus" feature, you could have a little bit longer wait if you're trying to snap something quickly and it hasn't focused yet. If you're focused, it's still close to zero though.

It's not really a revolutionary feature. The Galaxy Nexus can already do that... it's just (a) not really advertised and (b) not as user-friendly as HTC's implementation.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
the black version consistently seems to sell between 130-180 ish on ebay (used of course)

ive heard of a few cl deals for bnib typicall 200-220

red version seems to go 20/30 higher

imo a "fair" deal for a used one in very good shape (s-off or able to downgrade) would be 150-175 or so

but fair is in the eye of the beholder of course
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
That seems more or less consistent with "recently sold" ones on swappa
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Thanks.. I can throw in an additional back cover too.. so that should add to my savings. May be some screen protectors too! :) I have 2 of those...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] incubus26jc:
Has anyone heard any info on the rls of the GS3? I'm torn on the Inc4G, GN, and the GS3. I can't make up my mind. If the GS3 was out, it probably wouldnt be a debate for me. Although I really love Sense and always have.

I know most of you like the feel of a 4" screen. But i personally wish the Inc4g had a bigger screen.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
ive heard nothing about vzw gs3...but id guess that vzw is going to launch a "bigger" device as the first post family data share plan phone, in their attempt to lure people onto right away....

so either the droid (insert latest motorola rehash of same phone) or gs3 would probably fit that bill

this *might* be the last new phone prior to that crap hits
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Rom-Addict:
I'm kinda wanting the sg also, but all I've seen is an FCC thingy or maybe a benchmark with an unknown Samsung using dual core chip so it works with lte. They'll probably wait till after those new plans come out . Phone looks pretty sweet from what I've seen!

Edit: sorry didn't see the post above, got ninjad
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] The Archangel:
Check your pm
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] sbattosai:
Has anyone any insight on the radios included in the Qualcomm MSM8960 SOC?

I would really like to have a world phone with decent CPU power on Verizon...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] d00dr:
Well, guess that answers my question of which device to upgrade to next!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dezignstuff:
The qualcomm site has a chart showing all the radios and other elements in those processors
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] fp99:
I think I'm due for an upgrade... currently have the original droid inc and my upgrade was in April 2011 (got the phone on a 1 year contract). I am leaning towards getting this phone.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] wpbear:
I had two lines I wanted to upgrade from DInc 1 to this, but HTC lost one line to the Bionic since it is free today on VZW.

I have one line left (my line) and I am holding off hoping this comes out before Unlim data goes away. Once VZW releases the magic date for stopping the grandfathered plans I will have to make a move, still hoping the new INC 4G drops before though.........
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] sbattosai:
I found something on Wikipedia:

This is what the MSM8960 supports:

BT 4.0, 802.11a/b/g/n (2.4/5GHz), World Mode (LTE FDD/TDD CAT3, SVLTE-DB, TD-SCDMA, Rel9 DC-HSPA+, GSM/GPRS/EDGE, EGAL, 1x Adv., 1x EV-DO Rev. A/B).

So technically the SOC should be "world ready".

Sounds good!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] NightxFall:
All HTC phones have passed through customs. Good news for us
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] litetaker:
Cool... :cool: Waiting for the Dinc4GLTE...