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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] johnnycsx:
No, I work at Best Buy and we wouldn't do that. In fact, it's not really appropriate to be showing anyone our inventory on any level (Not on our screens anyway. If it exists we won't hide it obviously.) Like if you walk in for a tablet and we don't have it, we can tell you another location has it, but not how many they have. We see how many, but we aren't supposed to share that. Anyway, I'll check myself and see if there's another model out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BUYMECAR:
Johnny I am seriously shocked you are a Best Buy employee because it sounds like you actually know your ****.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ThiaiZ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smeDHYF0WPY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This is a video I made yesterday running WIFI analyser on an TSP C4, I was sitting really far away from my internet router(upstairs in the kitchen, while my internet router is downstairs inside a closet between 10 or 15 meters away) as you guys can see in the signal icon, I hade just 1 bar left.

I had 3 more Android devices side by side with my Prime (HTC Desire,LG Optimus 3D and SGS2) and all had a very alike graphic in the programs screen.

Can someone please tell me if it is working properlly acordly to the programs analyses ? Cause if it isnt I would say that I have 3 more android devices with WIFI problems home.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
seems right based on how far away you was. Especially if your other devices show the same readings. I'd say you good. if you take that router out the closet, you will probably get better signal for all your devices. if you wanted to, you could try to change router settings, leaving it in the closet, to see if it improves range.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ManOnTheMoon:
come man thats bs. i work at best buy to. we can say how many a store has IF its not a MAJORLY hot selling item.....like ipads. when they came out we were the only store in the midwest who got more then 170. Like primes and the tf300 it doesnt matter if we tell them our inventory or theirs. You dont gotta call around either. You only call if they have less then three......yoou can ask them if they can pull it and oms it. come on
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phree1:
Inventory levels are confidential information and are not supposed to be shared. Sharing inventory levels is a terminable offense. There are employees who no longer work for me because they shared who had what levels of inventory.

Take your VIP learning.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ManOnTheMoon:
My GM and PPM have seen us doing it and have heard us telling customers....since the restructuring phase is going on they have been trying to make exceptions for more business. Like i said earlier our best buy is one of the most profitable ones in the territory and our mobile is the only one with budgets as high as the hancock center. A lot of this stuff is forgiven and because of our success the asm, and dm dont care...as long as we are showing numbers, we are allowed to. having a customer walk away and not letting them know were getting 7 in the truck is bad business. That customer came to you specifically for the prime/tf300 so you let them know when you will receive it. Thats what makes customers come back
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] diecast17:
I agree stores that are honest with the customer makes the customer come back!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rushless:
You are mean. No soup for you! ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Eliad Kimhy:
Okay, BestBuy internal disputes aside here, guys, let's cut to the chase- Is there such a thing as a C4 Prime, or "revised" prime at Best Buy, and is it up for sale?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
C4 stands for the beginning of the serial number, when it was made. C4 is very recent. Mine is a C1 which means beginning of the year. BC's are last year. Yes Best Buy sells them, and "revised" is up for debate it didn't go back thru the FCC which means no new parts more like they are paying more attention to QC, but more than likely its still hit or miss, some say they get good ones, some dont.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Eliad Kimhy:
I see, thanks.

So there is a C4 serial number for the latest batch of Primes, only there's not much difference to the previous batches, and the claims of it being revised are meaningless?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
The 2-char prefix looks like a date stamp rather than a revision change. 'C' = '12' in hexadec, or the year, and '4' is the month. 'BC' would be 2011 December.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rushless:
As in my OP, the BB dude in the computer department showed me the terminal and the last character in the product code changed from A to B and was being treated and ordered like a new product. If only a perception issue by them, so be it. Makes more sense they are bleeding product and keyboards out of their channel and will carry the 300 and the 700.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
Revision doesn't necessarily mean "fixed." Revision within a product cycle is usually to lower cost, either through an improved process, or by substituting cheaper parts.

At this point in the Prime's life cycle, I don't think it's realistic to expect any substantive improvements in functionality, specifically RF functionality. The RF "fix" is already known from parts replaced for "weak wifi" RMAs, viz, PCB flange & GPS foil, MB top absorber, and MB conductive sponge. These are likely incorporated into the C3 & C4 series, as Hai Trat had mentioned in his email.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Eliad Kimhy:
While this is all a bit contradictory ("The 2 char prefix is a date stamp rather than an actual revision", "The RF fix is already known ... and it is probably incorperated in the C3, C4 models"), I would like to hope that the C4 TFP *is* somehow revised (By the way, getting the TFP's GPS and wifi to work better by replacing parts or adding RF conductive materials is definitely a difference, and it is definitely substensive).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] misterwal10:
*newbie alert*	i just returned my C3 at J&R and they swapped it out for a C4 make. What tests can i do to see if it is performing better than older versions....aside from that fact that i don't have light bleeding on the edges
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] David522d:
Hows is the WiFi? Distance wise
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phree1:
Wrong.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
lol. people should just let it die. weve been hearing this same "cry wolf" story since 2 weeks after prime launch. here we are now 6 months later and prime still selling in the stores and online. Prime will "Officially" be discontinued once its life cycle ends. I'd say around November. by then it would've had a good run. It will likely discontinued 3 months or more after infinity pad release. Prime has lasted the test of time. for nearly 6months, it has commanded the top position among android tablets. even with the Acer, Toshiba, and 300 out now, tech sites still consider the prime the Premier tablet.

but like I said before, even if prime were discontinued tomorrow, I wouldn't care. It won't stop my tablet Fro working. It won't stop Asus support and firmware updates on it, & it definitely wouldn't stop the great Xda developement on it. Prime was the first of its kind for Android. it pioneered the next generation of power, battery life, &display quality for Android. For Nvidia tegra3 to have commanded this whole year so far, in Android tablet market, says alot. In the short period of time Nvidia stepped into the scene, it has already gained more traction than its competitor chips. Expect to see a ton more tegra3 tablets releasing as its widely available and produces high yields. the other newer chips can't even meet demand. This is where Nvidia will have the advantage and milk the tegra3 chip out as long as possible. With no other competitor chip even in the horizon, Nvidia has it made and smooth sailing for the rest of this year in the tablet market.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sledgie:
Just quick little update here. There is, as many have pointed out, a C4 revision. I just picked one up Thursday night and I'm still testing.

For me, and I consider myself a heavy user, I came from a BC0KAS and while some say their BC0 was fine - mine wasn't. I could only use tethering through my Epic 4g Touch - couldn't connect to my router. My router is upstairs and unless I was in the room, it would drop to 1Mbps and drop. My router on this floor is a Linksys, Upstairs is an Asus.

That said, I wrote a tiny little update in the wifi/bt thread as I'm currently still testing but I can state I can now connect to both routers in my house with very little drop in speed. Let me state that this is only my opinion and my own experience. I can also connect to my neighbors house and stay connected at link speed 19Mbps-26Mbps. This for me is fantastic. i can also connect in my basement, going through multiple layers of walls to his connection.

I can update as i test more. I'm much more pleased with this now and all the aggravation i had previously is mostly gone. i can even reply to the thread now "how many of you use your prime in the bathroom?" !! will update as time goes on.

btw BB suggested that the Infinity Pad might be coming in Late June. might be a rumor. might not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
yeah, release is projected at late Q2 release, at best. End of June/early July is right around that time. it will be the wifi only version first though and it will release overseas first. U.S. release might come a round a month or 2 afterwards, if they plan to even release over here.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
1. Is Transformer Prime discontinued/cancelled? NO

2. Is it easy to purchase one?? NO

3. Will the lack of "stock" continue in the future? Who knows. But if the last 5 to 6 month is anything go by.. you can take the following approach..

a.) Be optimistic and hope that Prime will be in B&M stores for you too easily purchase, exchange, and just to see with your own eyes that PRIME is in stock/displayed with other Android tablets.

b.) Due to the severe lack of stock since Launch, you can assume or approach as if it is discontinued.

4. Will Asus make a statement or official comment if Transformer Prime is discontinued? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT

If you wish to purchase one, well.. by all means.. PURCHASE ONE (good luck with hunting for one). But before you do, make sure you do all research on Android tablets (Prime isn't the only Tegra 3 tablet) & purchase one that fits your need and etc.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pileot:
Ok, as someone who was an ASSISTANT MANAGER at The Source and one who was sent to various different stores around the city to help train staff for new managers, i think i know what im talking about here.

The primairy focus of stores is to make money. we wont make money if the customer is unhappy. Now its been my experience that different stores may have different policies on what you can or can not do. Some stores wouldnt even bother looking up items for other stores if it was busy because they didnt have time, others didnt have a problem with it.

Basically, if you dont get the answer you like from one associate, ask another one. Everyone is trained slightly differently, everyone knows a little more or a little less.

As far as BB / FS, i have been in store and had associates SHOW ME the screen of how many each store has. Why would i make a trip across the city to pick something up thats going to be sold in 5 minutes? thats just good customer service.

Some associates are afraid of doing something they might not be allowed to, or maybe they have been told not to, who knows. either way i do know that not everyone recieves the exact same information and a lot of how the associate treats you is based on how that associate is feeling that day, their training and experience.

We wont get anywhere bickering about what associates in various stores are allowed to do or not.

As to the discontinuation of the prime.... Who the hell knows. I do know my local memoryexpress stopped selling them. Maybe its a stock issue? maybe its a reliability issue? who knows. My local bestbuy / futureshop stopped stocking them as well. Online only. Maybe its an invintory thing.

with the release of the 300 which has most of the same features for a lot less and no invintory issues i can understand the switch. Also the rumored release of the 700 in a couple months its only logical that the 201 will cease production with both the higher and lower end models available.

Use common sense people, think for a minute: All these people want to make money, given the current set of circumstances what makes the most sense economically?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ronny71:
I went from the 300...just had it 4 days over to the 201...Serial number on mine is a C3 or C30...Wifi is working great along with GPS...Picture and screen is outstanding compared to 300...IMHO...I'm happy right now...I think its the best tablet out there at the moment (Im not an Apple Fan...)although Asus's 700 is on the way along with Toshiba's Excite 10... But its like my phones you gotta have a lot of money to stay on top...With my phones I do Add a Line and sell the other one on Ebay...Thats the only way I can keep up...:D

My first time with tablets ...Ill keep this one for awhile then Ebay it when I'm goin to move on to the next one...:confused:

BTW I did the purchase at BB...They were more than obliging to take care of me...They would let me swap out the 300 for another one...But they had the 201 on display along with the 101...So I got to compare and it was easy...They told me where to pick up the 201...(They had 8 left in that store...)So I went there forked over the extra coin and had the 201 rooted and overclocked that night...So I'm a Happy Camper...No complaints so far...And this Forum is really helpful...Just like the XDA Epic Forum that Im on as well...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] misterwal10:
I tested it next to an i pad2 in my home network & they returned nearly identical results in All areas
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ronny71:
Wifi works excellent anywhere in my house...Outside I use my Sprint Hotspot...or WiFi Tethering...Took a few trips in the car with it and with Hotspot...GPS is awesome ...No losses or drops...:cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SAJdroid:
C3 working fine

I have TF201 - C3 , purchased from office depot on April 17th . No issues so far.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rushless:
Actually saw two primes boxed and sitting under the demo for sale today in BB. The Product code had "B1" instead of "A1" for both.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Eldon3rd:
I picked up a c40 Prime earlier this week. I needed to replace my Prime that was a pre-order before the release date. I had cracked the screen on it.

The new one will be going back to BB.

If I bluetooth to my phone I lose wifi all together. My first Prime would decrease in wifi speed when bluetooth was active but would at least work. This one cuts wifi off completely.

GPS on the new one does not work at all. It tries but will not lock onto any birds. Not even outside. My original one at least worked outside. I have the gps dongle from my first Prime and it works quite well but as far as I am concerned a $500 tablet should have a working gps. And I did buy the original prime with the intention of being able to use the gps. I was hoping that the c40 had the gps fixed or at least better.

Build quality seems to be the same. The memory card sticks out just as much on the new one as on my original Prime. I had read that the newer ones were not as bad but not the case here.

I had my hopes up that the new c40 was going to be better than my original Prime but turned out to be far worst, at least as far as wifi and gps goes. The funny part is that this new one seems to be much faster/snappier than my original.

At this point I will wait for the tf700. I refuse to try another Prime after having two units that were not up to snuff. Enough is enough.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phree1:
B1 has been there awhile. My BCOK is a B1.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sledgie:
what firmware are you on?? The C4 that i had came with .15 - I stayed on it. BT works very well in my tests while streaming Dr.Who on Netflix (I doubt the Doctor had anything to do with it but you never know).

I didn't want to upgrade to .21 for fear the increased wifi might cause interference with BT

Also, starting with post 1343 in this thread this might be good for you. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1443868&page=135

And then check out the modification thread. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25940744

Backup your build.prop before editing. This might be the solution so many of us are looking for....

At least from a wifi and bt standpoint
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] redheadplantguy:
I have SN C4. Still no GPS. Wifi seems ok, but I'm never far from router. Anything anyone wants me to check out?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knucklehead_11:
I just picked up a c4 as well. Gps is still terrible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I wouldn't expect GPS to be addressed in newer units since they released dongle. improved wifi performance was what was reported.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] graffixnyc:
I had a CO2 Wifi was really great on that one. But there were dead pixels and light bleeding on the right side that got worse after only a week of owning it (started out as a small spot and within a week the whole right side had light bleeding)

Asus sent me a replacement. That unit was a CO3. Screen bleeding on that unit was much worse then the first, and on an angle the screen washed out really bad. I did a side by side with my TF101 and the prime's was washed out on an angle while the tf101 stayed clear. Also wifi is HORRIBLE in this unit. I walk 15 feet away from the router with only one wall in between with a doorway in it and I stood in the hallway right on the other side of that wall by the doorway and my wifi speed drops from 26mbps to 5-6mbps. My first prime O2 I was able to go further away from the router with more walls in between and only have it drop slightly. I'm waiting on my 2nd replacement now. It just got delivered to Asus HQ in CA today. Hopefully this one is good, if not I will just be requesting a refund
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] misterwal10:
Update on my c4....the wifi sucks! I thought it ok, but it seems that since i ran the .21 update it totally ruined what decent reception i was getting
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sledgie:
misterwal10, try this method to downgrade.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1622628

make sure you download the correct 201 blob, not the 101 one.

once on .15 use viper mod to root, use ota root keeper to keep root and let us know if .15 gives you back any increased wifi and/or but.

knuckle/demand/redhead - my c4 detects and picks up satellites outside (no dongle) after about 3-5 minutes. give it some time, see if it can see anything. inside I get none unless I use dongle.

also, misterwal, see if once you go down to .15 the build.prop modification helps you. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1647357
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phree1:
Have you tried a factory data wipe?

I had a similar issue with my BCOK TFP and a factory data wipe fixed it after upgrading from .15 to .21
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Btw, to the person who saw TF Prime with different model LETTER.. is it possible that Best Buy employee & yourself mistaken TF 300 with TF Prime 201?

New! Asus - Eee Pad Transformer Tablet with 16GB Memory - Blue

Model: TF300T-A1-BL SKU: 5089952

Asus - Transformer Prime TF201 Eee Pad Tablet with 32GB Memory - Gray

Model: TF201-B1-GR SKU: 4038674

Btw, I'm getting a good laugh at how Champagne version is "coming soon" while Gray version is "IN STORE ONLY" with Best Buy.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...7&skuId=4040165&st=asus transformer&cp=1&lp=2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ronny71:
I purchased the 300 a week and a half ago at BB...Brought it back after 2 days...The 201 they had there on display blew it outta the water for pic quality and brightness...They didn't have any 201's in the store I was in...so I drove 30 miles to another store where they had 8...this was a C3...GPS and WiFi work great in the house...I can get a lock in about 10 seconds and outside as well...The lock has stayed on in the few trips I made with it...I use it with Sprint Hotspot and it is awesome...Hot Spot is hacked thru my Rooted S2 Epic Touch...Im luvin the 201 so far...Except for the Brick I had...But got out of it quick with help from the members here...:D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Digital Man:
Best Buy in Westbury (Long Island NY) had 7 C4 Primes in as of yesterday evening, if anyone lives in the area and is looking for a C4. Actually, now they have 6, because I went home with one of them.

Wish me luck. Starting to test it this afternoon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GolfOX:
Ref. T30

If you still have your box for your Prime, the data tag on the back tells which processor you have below the ser#. Mine is TF201,Gray,GL,GPS 1GBDDR2

T30, 32GB EMMC, CB-802.11bgn

and other descriptive identifiers
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
yep, thanks for this. I thought i had the ap30 but I actually have a T30 variant tegra3. My prime runs great btw ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phree1:
Interesting. My BC and C3 are both running T30's.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
mines a BC also. i think maybe only the BB or whatever the ones before BC had the ap30 version. or maybe mid BC was when they changed it. T30 is the latest one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maxfac1234:
Hmph?

This is intriguing.

A while ago after I saw motley's post on how to determine the chipset (i.e. AP30 vs T30) I decided to "adb" and "dmesg" - And it turned out that I have the "older" AP30 (I am 100% sure of this)

Today I checked the back of my TP box and lo and behold.... it says T30....

BCOKAS here.

reference post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24908428&highlight=ap30#post24908428

Hmmph...

edit: makes me wonder now if TFP was intended to come with T30 but the earlier batches .... (put reasons here)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nopi45:
I got mine last weekend (also drove 30 miles to pick it up).The first one I got was a C3 and it was dead out of the box my computer would not even recognize it. Took it back and got a C4 and have not had any issues I can go out side and have the same wifi signal as my rezound and same for upstairs GPS is a little slow but I can live with it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Digital Man:
Apparently Tegra processors are designated T for tablet and AP for smartphones.

http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-tegra-3-t30ap30-mobile-quadcore-soc-sampling-by-end-of-2011-24127904/

I wonder if the smartphone version ie AP30 was produced first. That would make sense, as I suspect the smartphone market is much larger than the tablet market. ASUS wanted to be first out with a quadcore tablet, and so chose to use the smartphone SoC , and later, when the T30 rolled off the assembly lines switched over to using it instead.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
thats weird. I need to try out motley method and see. so it is still possible I have ap30?

Crazy thing is ive asked Gary about this but have yet to get answer on it? lol.

---------- Post added at 06:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:58 AM ----------

Good point also. could be possible and makes sense.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GolfOX:
T30?

Maybe you can't believe what you read?