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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
Well this is a question that bothers me and i am unsure about..

Are we (nexus owners) in denial? I mean sure, we have google's personally designed phone with vanilla android but let's be honest. The nexus phones have never really come out with top of the line specs. Usually there are more powerful phones out even when the nexus phones are announced. Nevertheless, I still love my nexus and won't go anywhere else.

But I just can't help but see the other side of the argument where someone like a galaxy s 3 owner says, "who cares about having vanilla android when I can root my phone and flash a custom rom anyway".

With this being true that more powerful phone owners can flash stock unbloated roms and sometimes the same roms (cyanogen,aokp, paranoid, etc), then what advantage does having a Nexus phone really have?

I'm not knocking on the nexus. Like i said, i love mine and soon to be ordering a galaxy nexus and nexus 7. I am just wondering if there are some things I'm missing...?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
First, no, we aren't in denial. Owning a Nexus has nothing to do with having the best ever specs. It's all about being Google's reference phone for building Android, so not only does Android run better on a Nexus device, it's always the first to get the updates.

As for other phone owners saying they can just flash any rom they want anyways, also bunk. Because they use different hardware than the Nexus, it is harder for developers to get all the hardware working 100%. For example, sure, I can technically install jellybean on my Xperia Play, but the camera doesn't work, no data, no wifi hotspot and quite a few other things not proper. With the Nexus, there's none of this. The "What doesn't work" list is quite non existent. Not to mention there's a ton of mods available for the Nexus, more so than most other phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
Ok, you'll have to forgive my ignorance because I am no android expert. So are you saying that any type of rom if installed on a nexus and lets say a galaxy s 3, the nexus will always run the rom better? So there is no example of any non-nexus device running completely bug free and in fact better than on a nexus? Would the superior processors in other phones make up for software incompatibilities? What i'm asking is, can any current phone run jellybean better than the nexus even if it's just a port?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
If they are exactly the same, the gs3 will run better. It will run better because of the better professor, and more ram.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SefEXE:
So stay in school, kids!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
lmao

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I'm caught in a ****ty predicament. I'm without a phone, and I'm looking into buying a galaxy nexus and a nexus 7 buuuuuuut....

I don't know if I should wait because there might be a new nexus phone right around the corner and possibly a nexus 10 (10inch tablet). uuuuugh.

I do really like the nexus 7 and it's price though. I was thinking of maybe just getting the 7 right now. and a ****ty prepaid phone to hold out until the next nexus phone...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
bwahahah!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
Lets say CM10 that I am running on my Nexus. I would guess that CM10 on the S3 would be smoother/faster, for the main reason of the S3 having better hardware than the Nexus. Please correct me if I am wrong ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
This is true. If the software isn't designed/optimized to favour one hardware combination over another, the software would run more efficiently on the highest performing hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
So in this case, the Galaxy S 3 is a better phone in pretty much all aspects...? Yes I understand the galaxy s 3 came out 6+ months after the nexus so it's not entirely fair. But I'm saying that the whole argument that "nexuses are better because of vanilla android and first updates" seems to be becoming irrelevant if phones like the galaxy s 3 have plenty of developer support to port new updates and actually run it better than a nexus.

Let's just hope the new nexus has at the very least, the same specs as the galaxy s 3.

I'm using the galaxy s 3 as a reference point because it seems like it's pretty much the best phone out right now. good screen, great camera, powerful processor and gpu, 2gb memory, etc.

In my personal opinion, the nexuses after the nexus one have been a disappointment. When the Nexus S was announced and I read about the features I felt really disappointed. I know I probably got caught up in the rumored specs and expecting something game changing like the nexus one was. eventually I gave in and bought the nexus S and it turned out to be a decent phone. Sadly, more powerful phones were coming out right after it. Then comes the galaxy nexus which again, in my opinion was a disappointment and i refused to buy it. Sure it had a new hd screen but everything else about it was pretty mediocre. Now I sold my nexus S and was going to buy a galaxy nexus because I need a phone but I realized I might as well buy some cheapo prepaid phone and wait for the new nexus. If it at least matches the galaxy s 3, I will get it.

For once I want a nexus to come out that definitively beats the new iphone in every aspect. Screen, processor, gpu, memory, etc. I know it's probably not likely. But it would just be nice to rub it in my iphone loving friends faces :p. Of course, this is all in fun. I love nexuses even if they're not the best. I've never met or seen anybody in person who had one. So thats one thing I like about them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Can you show me one S3 rom from AOSP that works as well as it does for Nexus?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DustyFarts:
Love the way you put that..i totally agree :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I don't understand why everyone needs to 'beat' the iPhone with specs. Clearly if you are using it, it has beat it in your eyes. Why do you need specs? To prove it to everyone else at parties?

News flash: Only losers feel the need to do that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Well not entirely. See, android versions are designed and tested mainly on the current Nexus phone so the stock builds will favour that hardware combination in some small aspects. This won't make much difference however, the biggest difference still between a Nexus and a "mainstream" phone is that when a new major Android version comes out, even though it will be ported to many devices, it will not function 100% until the manufacturer of that device releases the official update, due to different hardware drivers that have to be coded for and various other factors. A Nexus phone will always receive fully functional updates first.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
Because proving without a doubt that a new nexus being better than the new iphone would be like completely disproving a religion to a highly devoted cult. :D It's all in fun really. I just like shooting my friends down when they praise their iphones.

And yea, to confirm your opinion.. The galaxy nexus didn't beat it in my eyes because I didn't buy one :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
So you are on an iPhone then?

I don't compare my devices to Blackberry or iPhone.

If I did, around my friends, I'd likely get a foot upside my head before such a nerd.

Nobody truly cares in a crowd, no matter how much fun it is to you (they are actually laughing about you behind your back) ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
No, without a phone actually. waiting on the next nexus. I figured it'd be waste to buy the galaxy nexus right now.

And it all depends on how the conversation is going. it's not such a nerd war like you may be implying. sorry to hear you can't really defend yourself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
^ I have one friend who will defend his iphone till death. All the rest would glaze over in .25 seconds if I started talkin phone tech. :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
...And how does the Galaxy Nexus not do that with the 4s?

Listing your categories in order

Nexus - iPhone 4s

1280x720 SAMOLED - 960x640 IPS LCD

1.2ghz Dual core cpu - 800mhz dual core CPU

1gb RAM - 512mb RAM

LTE/HSPA+ connectivity - HSPA+ connectivity

NFC - N/A

Can't directly relate the GPU's, although it's not a massive difference and honestly it doesn't even matter, both can encode 720p files just fine.

Really, the only thing the iPhone 4s outperforms the Nexus in is the camera.

This. It's always gonna be a cat and mouse game with non nexus phones, developers waiting for manufacturers to release proper drivers for the different hardware. Not to mention Android is built using the reference of Nexus phones' hardware, so it's not like they're going to make the OS run crappy on it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ET3RNA4:
That may be true, but when the iPhone 5 comes out, I think it'll be superior in all of the categories. The retina display, the A5 chip, probably coming out on all carriers (Except T-Mobile), the camera is already superior, and It'll most likely have "True 4G" this time around...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
Ok well the screens are going to be subjective. Many people praise the Retina display for it's crisp detail and realistic colors. A lot of people hated the nexus display because of pentile. Like I said, subjective.

If I remember correctly, I thought I read the 4s's CPU is actually underclocked 200mhz, and it still performs quite well. I haven't looked up any benchmarks for it, but I'm sure it's no slouch.

Nexus definitely beats it in memory.

Nexus beats it in connectivity.

Nexus doesn't come close to the 4s in gpu. To put into perspective.. The galaxy s 2 outperforms the nexus, and the 4s easily outperforms the galaxy s 2. I looked up benchmarks to confirm this. Yes I know it's all about actual real world usage. But don't galaxy nexus users complain of lag with games like GTA 3? How does the iphone run it? (if it's even available to them, sorry I don't keep up with the appstore)

Nexus has NFC so yea that's plus.

So all in all, I think the galaxy nexus is better but barely. And I am sure there are people who will argue the opposite or even say I'm being to conservative.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Lol. Typo :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
A new phone beating an old one? Inconceivable!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Wow, I am so excited. :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
It will not be superior in software. While iOS may have its ease of use as a claim to fame, you have to hack the hell out of it just to give it features that are included standard on Android. Some of the general public may be turned off by Android because they don't want to spend the time setting it up...but Android is miles ahead of iOS right now and it will take a lot for iOS to catch up.

sent from my tab 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foosion:
It's not at all unusual for a non-existent phone to beat an existing phone. When something is not burdened by the limitations of reality, it's easy to be great :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
When the iPhone 5 comes out the Galaxy Nexus will be a year old...hardly seems like a fair comparison

True, but display technologies aside, the added real estate in pixels and size does have an added benefit. More information shown at once, so less pinching to zoom/scrolling

Hence why I said 800mhz. It originally was 1000mhz. Yes it performs quite well, but it's still 400mhz shy of the Nexus CPU. Unfortunately hard to compare the two because of the two different operating systems.

Ahh, I wasn't too versed in the gpu's. I've never had an issue with the Nexus GPU, it's played every game I throw at it just fine, including GTA3. Then again, I'm not a huge gamer on 99% of smart phones, I find it hard to play any of the games that actually take advantage of the gpu. Either way, no lag from either in real world use, so it's not something to brag about.

I dunno about barely beating the iPhone. I know people all have their own opinions, so that it why I was mainly going by specs on paper.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Adamallica:
The hardware in the iPhone might be great, but iOS 6 is a joke. It really isn't all that different than the iPhone circa 2007...I feel like I'm using a basic device when I use my wife's iPhone....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] snowboyyuhui:
i signed in to say this

im in the same boat as you, just a little behind. my og droid got water damage and it won't go past the motorola logo when i turn it on, im thinking that i will buy a nexus when i leave china in early september.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eksasol:
Considering the Nexus running Android and allow me more freedom, and iOS on the 4S which I gets bored off after 30seconds and my money being used for litigation and lobbying to limit my choices, I think I'll choose the HTC Hero over the 4S and have more fun.

Comparison:

Playback OGG and FLAC: Hero = yes, 4S = no.

File explorer with root access: Hero = yes, 4S = no.

Google Maps with Navigation: Hero = yes, 4S = no.

Drag and drop music, movie, files: Hero = yes, 4S = iTunes.

Playback AVI format: Hero = yes, 4S = no, wait for the video to convert.

Not breaking screen from face fall: Hero = likely to survive, 4S = glass likely to break.

Removable storage: Hero = yes, 4S = no.

Removable battery: Hero = yes, 4S = no.

Just my 2cents on a slow day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zixin:
Amen!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] onthecouchagain:
Anyone else think Asus might be in the running now for the next Nexus smartphone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hotobu:
I don't know anything about past Nexus phones. How is it determined who makes it and what carriers they go to?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ccline84:
I don't mind the iPhone... It's just not my cup of yea. Too restrictive on all levels. I don't like being told what I can and can't download. Where I can and can't get my music and movies... etc. Even when I jail broke my sisters iPhone 4s for her, the interface for Cydia is just blah.

I understand it all comes down to personal preference, but I just don't see the appeal of it. Even when we got the iPhone on Sprint and people were buying it left and right, I still got the obvious question of "Why don't you carry an iPhone." I gave people the honest answer. I think my GSII out performed it in every way and would proceed to show them my tricked out Blazer'd ICS ROM and blow their socks off. To the extent of changing quite a few minds. I fail to see how anything Apple could do would wow me after having JB on my GSIII.

Add in the fact that Apple is sueing everyone and their mom these days and I've lost all respect for the company.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordache16:
It's possible but I kind of hope they aren't.

They have been in the tablet business for a few years now and are just starting to get into mobile phones. Their tablets have been pretty decent spec wise, but speaking from experience with my Transformer Prime their customer service is horrible. I would hate to have to deal with them if and/or when I were to have an issue with the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evil_penguin:
+1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kookooktchoo:
Does any Android phone manufacturer have a reputation for good customer service?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] the.lirius:
not in my experience..

it's also true that i do not have any problem with my GN since now so i can not give my 2cents about Google/Samsung customer care service :confused:

hope well :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Terranalon:
I guess Sony Mobile does.. they updated all their 2011 phones to ICS, and they intend to update most of them to JB as well. It seems they're the only ones who care about their costumers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I will have to keep my eye on Sony then
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pheno.menon:
Any info on what kind of specs the upcoming Nexuses may have?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
They also are connected with developers like the ones here, giving them drivers and info they need to help mod the Sony handsets. All in all, I've been very impressed with Sony.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] finbaar:
in 23 months I have had 6 Android phones:

ZTE Blade, SE X10, ZTE Blade, ZTE Blade (now with my son), SE Arc (now with my wife), G Note (mine). Feck it. I have had it with trying to make a Touch Wiz phone look like stock Andoid. I am just going to get a Nexus. The Mrs can have the Note and I will sell the Arc. Happy days.

And I don't give a toss about specs when I don't have to put up with skins.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DustyFarts:
You'll fine the galaxy to very comfortable in your hand. And of course with the jelly bean smooth like butter :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mmouse03:
Totally agree!! I have had quite a few different phones within the past 12months and I am extremely happy that I decided to purchase my Nexus. The ability to customize and flash ROMs easily is a HUGE plus and the Jelly Bean ROM possibilities seem to be endless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DustyFarts:
Just to add this..I've wanted a galaxy nexus for awhile so I finally get some cash together and bought one from a great seller on eBay.

I've really enjoy the jelly bean update the phone Is like new. Then Monday I get to work and my sprint rep whom is a good friend tells me I can get the SG3

For 100 bucks. (Only because we are on a special plan at work) Major Retail Chain...BB. nuff said.

And every body at work is jumping on the deal. Why now..LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
So if you want the S3 why not just but it for $100 and then sell the Nexus. You can get much more then that for the Nexus.

I don't see the issue here. Actually seems like you are in a pretty good spot here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DustyFarts:
No...I want to keep My Nexus,But i would have never spend the money if I knew this deal was coming. The Nexus is Great, I'm using straight talk $45 plan and Loving it.

But the sprint deals in $30 bucks a month with a $100 SG3...AAAAAAAaaaah! lolol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mattehww:
So I've been eligible for an upgrade now, but I really can't decide what phone to get. I want a Galaxy Nexus, but it's kind of old at this point, so looking at the Evo 4G LTE. Do you guys think I should still get a nexus at this point, or maybe hold out for the next one? Any idea about how long until the next nexus?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Depends on how much you want to spend. Current Nexus will remain at this price for a while until the next one. Next one should be in about 2 and a half to 4 months.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kittinka:
IMHO It depends on what are you expecting from upgrade. I personally nelieve GNEX is best phone on market for it's price.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
Depends on how much cash you have to throw around. Buying a Gnex at this point in the game is a big waste of money in IMO. Just hold off a little longer. Trust me, I totally feel your pain. I'm going without any phone at all right now until the next Nexus is available. Buuuuut... I did just order a Nexus 7 that should give me my much needed android fix for a while. :good: :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mohawk3:
I think its only really a waste if you are buying for a contract discount. I would think if you are able to find one maybe slightly used or at a good price without a carrier discount, it may be worth it as there are so many jelly bean roms available for the Galaxy Nexus while other phones are just starting to ics roms. It depends on how you buy phones and chose to spend your money.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Duce HD2:
I bought a used Gnex (almost new for $300) and sold my year old S2 for $250, so really I have brand new phone (in my eyes) for 50 bucks. I did it this way because fall should bring some new devices to the market, hopefully a new nexus or whatever - then, I'll spend the big bucks lol. For right now I love my Gnex, it's freaking sexy. :) I really hope the next Nexus will include a better camera along with the S3 display. Pentile looks nice, but you can still see pixels at times. Ok I'm done lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Yea I wouldn't call the screen on this the best. I have to tweak it with Trinity color settings to get all the yellow and grain out of it. The screen on my Rezound was the best. Hopefully they will use that technology next time instead and add more storage and a good camera. Camera absolutely sucks on this thing. Can't beat all the Roms and excellent software in this devices though.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NicholasQ:
Yes, I agree with you. If he can find one cheap enough and is able to resell with a net loss under $50, then in my opinion it wouldn't be that much of a waste. I was just talking about buying brand new nexus like from the play store. I'm not really a fan of buying used, I love unboxing a brand new shiny toy :D. To each his own. Just thought I'd give another perspective to the guy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] filmaker:
I actually traded my EVO 4G LTE for the Nexus, wanted to just try something different.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Terranalon:
The S3 display is Pentile as well.. I actually think the Nexus's display is better than the S3's, since the PPI is bigger.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
Xiaomi mi-2 chinese quad for 399$

1.5GHZ Snapdragon S4

Adreno 320

2GB RAM

4,3" 720p IPS display

8MP CMOS camera

2000 mAh battery (official extended 3000mAh also available)

comes with MIUI as stock (probably based on 4.1.1)

release date Oct 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZXBxA-JCKw

it's nexus all the way for me, but if i have to chose anything else, i'd get this lil guy before any S3 or one X :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
I have a feeling the nexus will have that quad s4 or omap5.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
omap5 is Cortex-A15 , u do the math :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] onthecouchagain:
Galaxy Nexus Plus spec sheet?

http://phandroid.com/2012/08/21/spe...up-is-samsung-cooking-up-a-galaxy-nexus-plus/

When it comes to Samsung, they seemingly have a never ending supply of Android devices, blanketing the the smartphone market with phones in every spec, shape, size, and color. I guess that’s why this story makes a lot of sense. It’s been rumored since earlier this year that Samsung could be cooking up a refreshed Galaxy Nexus, to update the aging Nexus’ spec sheet. The boys at SamMobile got their hands on this purported spec sheet for the Samsung GT-I9260, with a model number fitting the device square between the current Galaxy Nexus (I9250), and the Galaxy S3 (I9300).

The spec sheet goes onto to list some upgrades to some the specs that many have felt held back the Galaxy Nexus from true greatness like it’s poor processor, horrible camera sensor, and lack of expandable memory. As you can see from the above spec sheet, an updated 1.5GHz (unspecified processor) A9 processor has been listed and could be the higher-end OMAP 4470 with beefier PowerVR SGX544 GPU. Also listed is an 8MP rear camera with 1.9MP front facing camera which, if bringing along with it an improved camera sensor, could mean drastically better picture quality. The display is also listed as matching that of the Galaxy S3, improving the quality of the original. The most shocking update is the inclusion of an SD card slot, something die-hard Android users have been vocal about the Galaxy Nexus lacking (along with any other new Android device launching without).

Exciting? Most definitely. That is, if true. I guess the next question we should ask is when can we expect this rumored Galaxy Nexus Plus to launch, and if it’s possible to have too many Nexus phones at one time? Nah.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
That may just be the CDMA Nexus. The new GSM one could be a quad core maybe. I also hope they change screen technology. I dont like amoled

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Quad Cores are overrated terribly.

I rather have a Snapdragon S4 or OMAP5 than a quad core, especially since that quad core would be most likely a Tegra 3, which both previous processors smash.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ET3RNA4:
I honestly think Quad-Core is wayyy too early right now, and is complete overkill in my honest opinion. No app in the Google Play Store can even utilize all 4 quads at once. Too early in my honest opinion, and honestly, you don't need it cause you're never gonna use it.