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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Scatter brained?

Bro, if Google felt they were not Nexus devices, they would not sell them as such.

This is a fact and there is no way around that. It doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are. Last I checked, the last Nexus presentation included Verizon models in it. So lets end it here, because you are arguing your personal opinion vs. fact.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shibed:
Nexus vs Galaxy S2 camera

Trying to decide which phone to get. It is between the GS2 on T-Mobile and the Nexus HSPA for $350

I travel about 2 to 3 months out of the year abroad. Middle East, Africa and Asia. I like the T-Mobil Wi-Fi calling feature that allows you to make and receive calls back to the US for no cost. The Nexus does not have that but I believe it is going to work well unlocked and I can easily switch to a local SIM. Seeing that it is a "Pentaband" phone I should have no problem on networks all over the world. That said the GS2 has enough to get me a signal all over the world as well.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I really like the idea of having a pure Android experience and the regular updates. Does anyone thing the UMA is all that it's cracked up to be?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
Okay dude... the article you linked completely goes against what your point is because yes it does say

(which the Vzw GNex has... an unlock able bootloader)

. The Vzw GNex accomplishes this, it allows for further development and user-end modification, which is the #1 golden reason why Nexii exist.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brealorg:
I have been punding my head against the wall on the choice between the SIII and the SGN.

My HTC Desire (bravo) was really now working togheter with me and the AOSP-roms was great tho there was a bug for practicaly each release.

The choice really did come down to hardware fore me, the SIII was going to be rooted anyway. I do not need a quad-core phone, I want the vanilla experience so I finally got my SGN yesterday and it is a stunning beautiful phone and I can't say that I am regretting the purchase.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kawaski47:
I had the galaxy s 2 on sprint and loved that phone. After 30 something leaks of ICS and still no OTA and then Google announcing jellybean the choice was made for me. I was getting a nexus. I sold my gs2 for 250 and bought my nexus for 275 on ebay in mint condition. Plus it has LTE for when that comes out.

I was just tired of playing the waiting game for the latest updates, I think I'll be a nexus person from now on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shibed:
Nexus Purchased

So I ended up making the purchase anyway. Who needs Wi-Fi calling abroad when I have skype.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rickinsav:
You got the Verizon version? Do you plan on rooting/unlocking it to get a JB leak/port? If you wait on Vzn for an OTA, then likely that will take a while too. The Vzn GN *just* got 4.04 about a month ago.

That alone has kept me from going to VZN for it.

As for the GN, I love it and bought the GSM version and looking forward to 4.1 when its released. Although I heard Apple just got a preliminary injunction against the new OS.

bastards.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JamesInsights:
Personally specs don't really matter as long as the phone runs well and everything is smooth. I mean cmon it's a Nexus phone, its googleeeee and you get new releases of android and updates so fast. The matter here is software not just hardware.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Your right, it did still have an unlocked boot loader. But what you fail to realize is that Verizon and Sprint both disabled NFC on the GNex and put bloat ware on them. Those two things completely go against Google's purpose in creating the Nexus line. Sure it still says Nexus on it, but its not completely free from tampering as an unlocked GNex bought straight from the play store. I mean COME ON. They disabled features on the device!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Interesting.

My Google Wallet and NFC tags at home disagree with you. Where are you getting this stuff?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevilStrider:
So is it banned? Because I will go get one right now if it is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
No. It's not banned. Apple still has to pay up $96 million in order to get the preliminary injunction (which they will probably pay early next week?) Either way, this only bans Samsung from selling the GNex, which means the Google Store, Verizon, Sprint etc. will still be able to sell the ones they have in stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
I posted an article link didn't I?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
It was a rhetorical question.

Stop reading BS. Your last post was blatantly false.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Oh because i found something that says your wrong its automatically BS? God, get over yourself bro. Your obviously not running the exact same version of ICS that your Nexus came with from Verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Actually I take that back. I read around a little more and realize I was thinking of Google Wallet. I apologize. On a different note, I'm curious if your running 4.1...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yep. I ported it a couple hours after it was leaked.

Google Wallet can be used on stock Verizon Nexus devices as well, fwiw.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
What's your opinion of it? It looks awesome and I'm very tempted to swap my Galaxy note out for it. Either that or a GS3, but i really can't make up my mind if I want moderately new software and exceptional hardware or brand new software and last years hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yeahmon:
I had to send my SGN back because the radio was so piss poor. I bought the SIII to replace it and it works much better on the data and talk side. Just my $. 02
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
It is amazing!

I mean it isn't perfect yet, although I don't expect it to be as a developer preview. It is basically what ICS should have been all along. A lot of the performance problems ICS saw have been largely cleared up. It feels like a different phone when running it, in comparison to ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
Lol.....

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
I'm just really torn because at the same time I've read a couple articles that said its possible the Note might just skip ICS altogether and go straight to 4.1. It would explain why we haven't got ICS yes. Too many amazing options at this point in time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blankit:
Honestly I have the sprint gnex and my friend has bought the Evo lte for sprint and my phone is a million times more smoother than his and faster at most things now that I'm on jelly bean not sure about ics
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
With JB as polished as it is, manufacturers using ICS right now is the equivalent of moving back to Windows Vista when 7 came out. Hopefully they skip ICS altogether.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blankit:
You aren't doing a very good job at keeping the trolling or flaming at a moderate level things are pretty out of hand already
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
That's really a good point. I really hope it gets skipped. I wasn't really that impressed with the leaked edition for my phone. I went back to a OCd GB rom, the unofficial v1.5 and its a million times better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
That's really funny lol. Sucks for him seeing as he just bought a brand new phone lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vash1053:
We have JB when others don't even have ICS yet. 'Nuff said about the Nexus line IMO.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeTimesUp:
me too

I was in the same dilemma, and picked up the Nexus also. Hopefully someone gets IMS (the new t-mobile UMA) working. Until then I've got an old sgh-t339 with some extra batteries for wifi calling out of the States.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] onthecouchagain:
Hopefully now that the Nexus 7 is out, Google will be shifting their focus on the next Nexus smartphone(s). I really can't wait to see the next generation of Nexus. And if they pull the same method of selling it on the Play store, that'd be fabulous.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eZaCx:
Here is a pretty good comparison I found:

http://i47.tinypic.com/25r2l91.jpg

Only thing wrong I could find is that nexus has 1080p video recording.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sean-El:
Exactly. I went from a Moment to Evo, Evo to SGS2, then a Nexus S back to SGS2 and now a Galaxy Nexus. No more skinned phones for me ever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boe:
I went from WM, to EVO to EVO 3D, to GSII, to a Verizon Nexus. I'm going back to GSIII or Note 2 soon. I could care less about rooting my phones or skins - I just want a phone that works well as a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ericstephani:
As a disappointed Verizon Nexus owner, who doesn't get updates as I expected, I am envious of the GS3. So if I have to wait for official updates I would go with the GS3. But really who are we kidding. I would root and install my own roms anyway, so really I am still perfectly happy with my GNex on Verizon. With the project butter stuff in JB, I wonder how much that quad core will actually make a difference. I don't game much on my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
What good is a quad core, etc. etc. when you're stuck using CheeseWiz and NonSense?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Neo3D:
Plus, the way HTC bonds their glass to the screen is faulty because I got dust under my screen! GF's Gnex in same dusty environment....no dust! Even tho, she had her phone out more and used it more than I did mine!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Arthur Hucksake:
In the past year.... i've had...

HTC Sensation

HTC One X (Three of them, all faulty ffs)

Galaxy Note (Gf has it now)

HTC Titan (awful call quality, WP7 is nice but limiting, every photo seems to be blurry? ? )

....and now the Nexus.

Hopefully I can finally rest with a handset that does the job.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.b93:
I'm currently thinking about upgrading from my nexus s to the galaxy nexus. Is it worth the Upgrade? I don't want to spend so much money on a brand new phone so the GNex has the best price for me.

But how much improvement is the gnex really?

I am asking because many people say that the gnex isn't that much faster...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
Dude I am not trying to be a prick but the NexusS is a flat out joke compared to the Gnex....and in fact does not compare on any platform other than the fact the both get updates from Google ......sorry but that's the way it is. Unless you prefer small phones then the NexusS is OK. The Gnex is faster and better at everything.......everything.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TjPhysicist:
nice thread btw...

one thing i'd like to know is the whole LTE thing. Now i know a few peole who purchased other phones because it "supports true LTE" (we dont have the LTE Gnexus here in canada). Why would you need LTE? It's just a market hype, can you REALLY tell the difference between HSPA+ and LTE? HSPA+ to me is actually too fast in canada. Whats the point of having 40Mbps speeds when you only have 100MB to 500MB a month..

On a similar note, this whole hype about "ooo this phone has extra cores" etc, its the same with computers, i know only a few people who honestly use their phones for top end gaming. Most like smartphones for normal stuff, and normal gaming..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.b93:
Okay that makes my decision very clear. Thanks dude
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foosion:
GNex is definitely better. See this for more detail: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3620&idPhone2=4219
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] clcross18x:
I actually sold my Galaxy Nexus to get an HTC One X here in the states on AT&T. Part of the reason I did it was for the LTE, as only Verizon and Sprint carry the LTE versions of the Nexus here, that and I work for AT&T, so I figured I would have a little brand loyalty and try out the new network.

For me I have noticed a huge difference between LTE and HSPA+. It's something you don't think you would notice, but when you download a song in 1 second or that webpage pulls up instantly, it definitely makes a difference in the smartphone experience.

That being said, I'm only going back to the Nexus because of the update to JB and I had originally intended to stick with only LTE phones. I'm going to be in a real bind come later this year if the next Nexus doesn't support AT&T LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
LTE makes a BIG difference. Pulling 80mbps+ vs 8mbps. I actually download crap faster over 4G then my WiFi (10mbps). 4G is great for those initial setups when Google downloads all of your previous apps and contacts. 4G allows it to literally tear it up.

But after all the initial stuff, I disable 4G. Why? Well because it isn't reliable and leaves me without a data signal until I toggle it. Plus it is a battery hog. Plus I don't need an 80mbps connection while my phone is idle or in standby.

On a typical day I am either at work or home. 3G suffices in-between. But there are some days when I am out and about and just want to surf the web or download new roms. 4G is awesome for this. The bad thing is using 4G and WiFi-Tether at the same time is awesome but rips through the battery.

I could probably live without 4G, but I would take it if it was available.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kookas:
It's useless for today's tasks, because today's tasks revolve around 1GB of RAM. When 2GB becomes the high-end norm late this year/early next year we will start to see uses for it. Better image editing apps, movie editing apps, and sound editing apps, or more expansive games. Any app that has to handle a lot of data at once will benefit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sensamic:
I think the new "5 nexus phones" will be:

- Nexus 7 8GB

- Nexus 7 16GB

- New nexus 16GB

- New nexus 32GB

- New nexus 64GB

All I hope is they have IPS (just like the Nexus 7). Super Amoled is too dimm.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] divinewisdom:
I am in the same boat. Got a Galaxy S3 for the LTE experience. After using it (LA area) I can say that LTE is fast in pockets of area (10-20Mbs), where as other area is pretty standard 5-10Mbs. I am returning the S3 for the Nexus again for the Jelly Bean. I liked the screen and hardware of the S3, but after JB was announced, I could not wait a year for an update to come from Samsung or Att.

I hope the next Nexus will support att LTE or else, everyone we will be stuck with HSPA+.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
This isn't the iPhone or WP where there's base hardware devs can utilize to its fullest potential. In Android devs have to consider the scores of (to be perfectly honest) horrendous phones that are out there, and as a result bleeding edge hardware goes under-utilized.

The good news is that a phone like the Galaxy Nexus is still relevant and will be for some time.

Sent from my SGH-I777
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
any chance the new nexus would have a qwerty? I would buy it without skipping a beat. Thought I saw a rumor a bit ago that had a design prototype rumor from goog's with a qwerty
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
I don't see this as a possibility (but maybe? if it keeps getting more and more marketed as a consumer device...) because I believe Google's vision is to do away with all the hard keys on a phone (as you can see on the GNex with it's soft keys). You know what would be kinda cool? A dual-screen phone that slides out like a qwerty, except that the second screen could be used as a keyboard or other times as a supplement to an app (2nd home screen, playing games, etc.) That would be BADASS!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] motu90:
No way, Google is clearly going into the direction of less hardware butttons (see also Nexus7). There were some pictures of a Samsung prototype with QWERTY, but it won't be the new Nexus, I'd bet on it :cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
Its not a Nexus....but here is a Samsung with a keyboard.

http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/04/sa...owd/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] renna1992:
sad that such things get even produced anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Dang, thats a good point. The gnex does not really have any physical buttons (2). Quite unfortunate, I very much enjoy the haptic feedback pressing the actual button gives you, but I guess its way to cut costs- makes production cheaper if you just need to slap out a bunch of big screen phones without much variance in the physical design. Us few old schoolers who prefer the keyboard are being left behind..

I found the article I was vaguely referring to. And here.

Dang looks like the articles with the 'patent' was actually a patent filed back before the G1.

To fuel the fire more, looks like there were more rumors of a nexus qwerty from twitter; release date supposed around nov 2nd...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
Last link refers to 2011 (i.e. Galaxy Nexus - and that slide out keyboard sure didn't happen). I like the direction Google is taking the design VERY MUCH. Better design than all phones out right now IMO
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kapetan:
Does anybody knows (probably someone who used both phones) what is the difference in music playback quality between Galaxy SII and Galaxy Nexus with in-ear's ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
International GSII would have superior SQ.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlueBagodah:
I'm hoping for a Galaxy Note sized Nexus to launch this autumn. And I'm hoping that I can order it from the Play store to Canada like I just did with my Nexus 7.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
I don't. The biggest I'll go is sg3, atleast for now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sucram6791:
if there were to be a 5.5 nexus it wouldnt be out by autumn, they would have just put it out with the n7
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chakra:
stupid verizon galaxy s 3 has locked bootloader, my Gnex is looking better all the time with jelly bean already on it :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
Everything points to going Nexus phones only from here on out! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isinisterx:
Keeping mine until the new nexus comes out, unless that is an epic fail.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chakra:
ya but what if verizon doesnt get the next nexus, then im bummed..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sean-El:
Yep, I got the Epic touch the day it came out and I ended up buying a Nexus this February because the CM9 rom was pretty bad for a daily, no 4g and Los all the time. Give me a Nexus any day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kxs783kms:
I think this is the reason Google is going with having a Nexus device made by all of the different manufactures. These carriers are cutting out a big part of Google's purpose, which is for you to have the freedom to do whatever you want with your phone. The carriers are blocking this by demanding locked bootloaders on some of these phones. They, like a lot of us, would rather for us to have complete openness without the carriers getting in the way and the only to way to achieve this, is to make multiple GSM/CDMA devices for everyone to choose from. Instead of these carriers getting $500-$700 for these phones, Google can sell them for $350-$550 and bank. There is a lot of money to be made from this kind of thinking.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arthurbrownleeiv:
I had the S3 for a bit over a week now, and it is going back tomorrow.

Super fast, nice screen, etc... But I hate the feel, I hate not having AOSP/AOKP/CM... And I HATE THE HOME BUTTON.

GNEX 4 lyfe yo. :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
If your on Verizon that sux....there is going to be a boat load of roms for the SGS3....and AOKP built by the best guys for the job;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GotDamned:
i just found someone who is selling his nexus for a very good price.

Can't wait to test it out, i heard so many good things about it.

Also i may even switch from apple to android (or just have both to play with ;) )

Sry if these questions were ask to many times before, i just couldn't find a thread about the usual short-form.

What exactly is AOSP/AOKP/CM?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
AOSP = Android Open Source Project = Google's clean versions of Android

AOKP = Android Open Kang Project = Well-known developer team who puts out roms based off of AOSP with added customizations and tweaks (also take some stuff from CM)

CM = CyanogenMod = Most famous developer team in terms of custom roms. They have been around for a long time, and are known for their roms based off of AOSP with customizations and tweaks.

Basically AOKP and CM roms are the major custom roms, and AOSP is pure Google Android OS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hullbay:
Question for you dude... Was the SGS3 noticeably faster in comparison to the GNex? I also dislike the home button but am wondering how much of a difference the spec upgrades in the SGS3 make?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Arthur Hucksake:
All phones are only as good as the software on them.

Touchwizz and Sense cannot compare to the vanilla feel i'm afraid. People seem to have warmed to Sense 4.0 a bit more because they get a closer to stock finish with the fancy clock.

Why do you think most of the people on here with these devices are often doing their upmost to get a functional port of something else?

In recent times i've had an iPhone 4> GSII> HTC Sensation > HTC One X > Galaxy Note and now the Nexus and i'm content.

I've had to downgrade the hardware to get the feel and software I want.

I've used an SIII too btw, it is fast in things such as games but for everyday use the perks are often interfered with by Touchwizz.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
I've played with both GNex and S3 (AT&T) and the S3 is faster by far. Its so smooth its unreal. IMO it blows the iPhone away as far as smoothness is concerned. I don't know what Samsung did to the Tw but its crazy fast. I've got it on my Note with the UCLF5 ICS objection rom and it made everything MUCH smoother.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Samzebian:
I don't get this arguement. If the phone is rootable (which it is), then eventually there will be an AOSP ROM or something close to it, so why complain about the skins. I feel like with rooting you are free to do what you want. Sure the home button probably is annoying, but otherwise I really feel compelled to upgrade my phone. Then again, I might just wait for the next nexus. The true Nexus prime??:laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
Get the GS3 if you like it....as far as the UI.....all I can say is that you will have twice as many Roms to choose from. A stripped out TW Rom is light and fast and if you're a flashaholic you will be bouncing back and forth between CM, AOKP, TW.....and you know there will be hybrids.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Eventually is relative to a timespan. Eventually could be mean 4-6 months. AOSP may boot, but how long until 100% functionality?

These are all questions you must ask. Now with the S3 having a locked bootloader and the inability to flash unsigned kernels, it gets even worse. Yes, I am aware that this is only the Verizon version. Non-Verizon versions will have a better time at all of this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I had a chance to use a GSIII at my local Best Buy, and I didn't find anything special about it.. I didn't get the 'shock and awe' feeling. The screen is good, and it is very fast, but I would still rather my GNexus.. I would buy a One X over a GSIII.. Touch Wiz does nothing for me and design and build quality on the one series is phenomenal. I was debating buying a One S or the Gnexus, but the One s wasn't out yet with Telus when I bought it, and the Nexus went on sale so I bought it. The GSII is an extremely nice phone and I can see why there is a demand for it, but it just isn't for me. In terms of design, I think the One S is the best right now. It is just so sexy and slim, I am in awe every time I pick one up. How HTC managed to pack all that hardware in the slimest, sexiest package is beyond me. Without a doubt the most beautiful phone on the market right now. I still sometimes regret not waiting for it, but I am still very happy with my Nexus.