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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RJV3:
From reading some initial reports on the upcoming s4 Google edition, it's promised to have a nexus experience. Workout touch wiz I'm curious to see what functionalities are lost when compared to the regular s4. But the Google edition doesn't do jack for me unless it's on verizon.

Would i get the s4 Google edition of on verizon? I'm running aokp with 4.2.2 jb on my nexus now. And $650 out the box is a bit much to drop. Rather stock with my nexus and keep my unlimited data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Oh calm down, It was a general statement. The only thing that differentiates this from your beloved nexus device is just that, the nexus branding. This S4 is sold and updated directly by Google just like a normal Nexus phone.

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I mentioned it an above comment, but no, the S4 GE only supports AT&T and T-Mobile's networks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RJV3:
Thanks for clearing that up. Think I'll stick with the nexus then.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tiny4579:
I suspect it highly unlikely this S4 Google edition will have AOSP support. After all it's Samsung's flagship device and I doubt they'll release enough source for AOSP support. I'd love to be proved wrong here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
Why not? They don't have to give up their source code for Touch Wiz features like hover or multi-window, only enough for hardware to work. I'm pretty sure the s4 Google edition means AOSP.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
It was already announced at I/O that the S4 GE will get the same exact AOSP support that the Nexus line gets. For all intensive purposes it IS a Nexus, just without the branding.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martindesu:
Or rather, it's a Samsung phone, without the branding (aka touchwiz).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Until Google manufactures their own device, that can be said of any Nexus device. What differentiates this S4 from the others is that Google sells it and provides all the software support.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] echineon:
How's the oppo find 5 software support compared to nexus line? I just bring it up since everyone discussing about Google support for hardware out of their usual nexus line.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] negrobembon:
Too bad google doesnt support the oppo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leffer:
Can't wait for the next Nexus.

Gonna be two years on the Galaxy Nexus in December, and I'm ready to move on. But I want it to be a nexus!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] the.lirius:
i do agree i will not buy a samsung s4 or the htc one.. great phones, almost nexus but still NOT :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordanishere:
Heh what about the s4 nexus?

I don't care for them either. If my phone breaks, I'll buy the white nexus 4 when it comes out, just because it will be cheap.. Definitely not because of the glass back.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] h_10:
i was tired of the gnexus. i picked up a vzw galaxy s4 on friday. i am sorely missing the nexus experience.

likes about the s4.

- amazing hardware

- BEAUTIFUL screen

- holds better than the gnex. the gnex is thick. i like the slenderness of the s4.

- much much much better radio. this is my biggest complaint about the gnex

- most of the time, it's lightning fast. s600 quadcore and 2 gigs RAM makes a huge difference

dislikes

- no adobe flash support. this is mind blowing. wtf!!! i don't know to blame samsung or google on this monumental f up.

- home button and button arrangement

- browser is just odd. only lets me zoom a little and then no more zooming. wtf?

- touchwiz, i am reminded why i hate skins

- tremendous bloat. i mean like almost 8 gigs worth of crap. i froze about 50 apps.

- all the bloat sometimes makes the phone laggy. for a phone w/ the latest and greatest hardware, this is unforgivable.

- bootloader wasn't hacked, just bypassed. with that limitation, i'm not sure how much the devs can truly do to right the wrongs on this phone.

i am thinking of selling this phone and using my gnex until something a better nexus-like option comes along on vzw. or i will wait another month and see what the devs can cook up. but i love the hardware, especially the screen and reception. i dislike everything software related about the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Swap out TW for Nova. That should fix a few of your issues. And the bootloader not being fully unlocked is just vzw screwing you over. They request phones that way. And you should be able to download flash from Adobe's website, it will be an old version though because Adobe does not support mobile OS' any longer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] h_10:
i tried tw for a day and have been using nova since. nova helped but in some apps, it just lags. and all s4 bootloaders are encrypted, not just the vzw version. the hack is just to bypass. i imagine that i can easily be patched by the carriers and samsung. and flash is not supported. i've tried all launchers and installed 5 different versions of flash straight from adobe's site. it supposedly works on sprint and at&t versions, just not on vzw's.

i'm hoping many of my software complaints will be addressed by kick arse roms by the dev. there are already 2 or 3 released but they are in beta versions. hopefully in a month they'll be fully baked.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Langduscher:
I'm looking for an upgrade from my Gnex and I'm torn between the N4 (which I'd want because it's a Nexus obviously) and the Galaxy S4.

See, my wife just a S4 an the screen is STUNNING. I also like the small bezel and that it's thin & light.

I will root and flash AOKP or CM10.1 to either device. Imho the N4 doens't look as much as an upgrade as the S4 does :confused:

What would you do? (waiting for N5 is no option. I will get that when it's available. I'lll be ditching the Gnex.)

Thanks for your opinions!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Wait a month for the GS4 Google Edition. Problem solved.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Langduscher:
I'm very sure it's not going to be available in the Netherlands... besides rooting and so isn't overly complicated ;)

Thanks for your reply :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Moto X

The Moto X phone is coming 'by Octo...one-is-real-says-motorola-ceo-dennis-woodside

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Motorola? Who's that? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
Silly, it's that company that makes all those totally awesome DROID phones. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Ohhh you mean all those completely bug riddled droid phones? Lol. Never could understand what the heck Motorola and Verizons problem was. They sold every one of those stupid things for $300 subsidized.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Moto X will be the first phone made in the US. "It will know when you want to take a picture, when you are driving around and will launch apps automatically."

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Xerrus:
I'm hoping the Moto X lives up to the hype surrounding it. That interview said it would have Two processors I believe. Will be interesting to see what pans out

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/30/4379796/htc-one-google-edition-announced-stock-android
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
You beat me to it. HTC One with stock Android announce...tc-one-google-edition-announced-stock-android

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wh1t3Rose:
I hope the Moto X is worth it. I'm trying really hard not break down and Get the S4 and throw AOSP on it. My Nex broke Friday cracked screen. Contract ends in a month. If I hold off till than I hope its for nothing

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
The Moto X phone will be made in the US and is coming this summer, says Motorola (update) http://www.theverge.com/android/201...one-is-real-says-motorola-ceo-dennis-woodside

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At least we can expect a Google Nexus 5 in the near future.

Google will keep making Nexus hardware, says Sundar Pichai http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/30/4379936/google-will-keep-making-nexus-hardware-says-sundar-pichai

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] icexx7:
Wow!! This just made my day. I know now the next phone I will be buying to replace my Gnex. Moto X. Made in Texas too.. Cant get any better than that. :cowboy:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Cowboy the phone up!!!

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] s44:
Perhaps it will be as successful as the last Google product made in this country... (Nexus Q)

:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Xerrus:
Hopefully it pans out. I had heard earlier rumours it would only be rocking a dual core cpu with mid range specs :-/

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] icexx7:
r.i.p. nexus Q :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] negrobembon:
Two processors? I doubt this phone is gonna live up to all the hype it has
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
I thought I read somewhere the new"quad core" processors are really two processors with two cores each?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wdustin1:
I agree with you on flash but that wasn't Google nor Samsung's call that was all adobe
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] himu007:
I'll be sticking to my lovely Galaxy Nexus. Didn't even try to get the Nexus 4. Maybe I'll wait untill Google announce the next Nexus phone. Which might be Nexus 5 if the specs attracts me ;).

Until then Galaxy Nexus is serving me well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] the.lirius:
yes, in the end i will get a N4 too and i will do it mostly because of the price but also because i do want to give the signal that a great device HAS and CAN be cheap :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vigges666:
Currently i own a Galaxy Nexus and it still rocks like hell. Before that i had an iPhone5... yeah you see i have an galaxy now i don't have to say anything, right? :D

But one device i preferr is the Xperia Z or ZL. Those are also nice phones. I am looking for an upgrade to mine and maybe it will be an Z.

On the other side, i don't want to miss the Nexus feeling overall. My Brother owns a Nexus 4, thats why i am not quite sure what to buy... hmm i will wait for other releases till october maybe :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sdobron:
Oppo Find 5 is intriguing but the GNex handles everything I use it for well so I'll be keeping it for at least one more year. No real reason to upgrade as functionally this phone is still top notch.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
I really like the S4 Active. I think it's because it has actual hardware buttons for menu, home, and back. Maybe it gives me that nostalgic feeling from back in the Palm Treo, HTC Mogul, HTC Hero days. If you can call 4-6 years ago nostalgic. I think that may be my next phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wh1t3Rose:
Y'all may find this shocking but I'm getting a Droid Razr Maxx Hd for my next phone. Coming from a Nex. It just got an unlock tool and its got a 3300 MAH battery. That's INSANE! 32 gb internal + SD slot. I'm sure custom kernels are coming real soon and it has AOSP already. Also motoblur has gone down significantly as far as bloat and skin goes. Look similar to vanila android. Also Moto has the best radios period. Nobody can top Moto radios. Simple fact. Its always been that way. I recommend you guys consider this for your upgrade especially since its unlocked. Or the Moto X. I don't think I can wait for the X tho. Contract ends in about a month. Probably will just get the Maxx HD

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TiltedAz:
Hopefully the moto x uses has most of the same some toughness features as the Maxx HD.

I've seen Motorola Droid and Photon signal strength and drop call complaints. I suspect technology changes cause every manufacturer to feel the same pain.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Go with the HTC One. It's a great phone in so many ways, and there's less bloat than you'll find on the SIV. On the other hand, while you can actually unlock the bootloader on HTC devices courtesy of HTC-Dev, I think there's more support behind the SIV at present (and you lose microSD/removable battery, if those are important to you). But as far as flash goes: come on, just sideload it. Adobe dropped support a while back (although HTC for one reason or another elected to build in the last build of flash into the One by default).

I don't know about "quad core", because nVIDIA's 4+1 architecture for the Tegra 3 and 4/4i certainly are "true" quad cores, as are the Snapdragon S4 Pros/Snapdraon 600/800. You may be thinking of Samsung's Exynos Octa, which is the embodiment of ARM's big.LITTLE design with a quad core A15 bundled with a lower power quad core A9 for less demanding tasks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Xerrus:
I'm on VZW personally, and am eagerly awaiting the HTC One. I'm just concerned about battery life. To help me get over the woes of a non removable battery though, I purchased a 18,000mAh rapid charge external battery to store in my book bag. Should help with the transition from being able to swap batteries on the fly!

Speaking of battery, how is it on the One? Isn't it like 2300mAh or something along those lines? Does it last all day? I do a lot of streaming :-\

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I'll warn you right off that an external battery requires significantly more care in many ways. I suspect that by "rapid charge" you mean that the battery has an increased voltage USB port, but be alert-- that will only go so far (I believe my One charges at something along the lines of 17-23%/half hour [weird measure, I know, it's a Tasker profile] on AC). It's not like a removable battery where you're immediately good to go.

It's fairly low, but about the size of the Galaxy Nexus' OEM extended battery. I had a bit of a rough first day, but I blame that on my getting the device set up. I unplugged this morning at 7:20AM, went to work until around 6:00 (constant Wi-Fi throughout the day, some music listening, and a spot of mobile data when I went walking for lunch). Now it's 9:22, battery's at 46%. It's good so long as you know what you're doing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Xerrus:
That's good to know. And yes, my external battery has both a 2.1 amp and 1.0 amp output, depending on devices being charged, the latter typically the go to for smartphones, whereas, the former for tablets like an iPad.

I knew it wouldn't be an instant replenishment, but having a way to juice when no outlets are around (such is the case of the factory I work at) is always handy and comforting since I wouldn't be able to pop the battery out on the fly with the HTC One

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
So long as you know what you're getting into, it really is a great phone. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drxikh:
yea definitely hoping the next nexus/moto x comes to verizon, else i might be with my gnex for a while.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TiltedAz:
AT&T and VZ have tightened up early phone upgrades. Now you need to keep the phone for 24mos or pay full price.

I hope the moto X gets is successful in getting away from today's crazy pricing and nutso carrier subsidies.

I can upgrade my phone in 2 months but I'm not sure I'll go with another 2 yr contract.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/att-early-upgrade-discount_n_3416563.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kclantz:
I just had to get a new phone because of a problem with the battery not charging (I tried it with different batteries, so it was definitely a hardware problem). If not for that I loved my Galaxy Nexus running CM and had no intention of getting something new until there was a Verizon LTE Nexus again, or my contract was up.

Once I got the touchwiz junk off my S4 its a pretty good phone, its basically like my wife's Nexus 4 but with LTE. Still, the specs alone were not enough to convince me. It took a dead phone :(.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Motorola X will not be a flagship phone. It will have Snap Dragon processor and a 720p display. Basically, it will be a Nexus 4. Check Pocketnow for the latest info.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wh1t3Rose:
That's a shame I guess ill get Maxx HD then now it has a unlock tool. I need good battery life again like in my Droid X days. I still get 2-3 days regularly on my DX.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nzTHKdZH8o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

HTC Butterfly S

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] inspired designs 33:
Battery Life n Users

It seems battery life is an issue from user to user and phone to phone.

Apps run and system settings screen time, automatic brightness, data access, time online, standby time.... there are so many factors its scary.

As the tech develops hopefully newer battery tech will follow. The development of batteries has seems a bit static for years now. With luck something revolutionary will come and battery life will be great. Fingers crossed.

Cheers all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
Mostly the former. Not all of us want to stare at our phone's screen for 3 or more hours a day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] E66666666:
You'd be surprised how much some people stare at their phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Seraz007:
+1 i used to do that xD xD :p:o:o:o:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
No, not really surprising. I see people in public, constantly pecking away at their phones while at the bar, or wherever. Some people just do.

I'm hard pressed to get an hour of on screen time a day. On the plus side, I never have to worry about it not lasting a full day. If it's got over 70% at the end of the day I don't bother charging it that night and run it for two days.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Or you can get an extended battery and it'll last you way more than it lasts me. :D

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
Until recently.. Someone give me the funds and ill deliver a high capacity battery that charges in 30 seconds :p:p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] inspired designs 33:
recharge tech but

Yeah i heard about the quick recharge tech on Conan the other day. Looks like a very promising technology.

The issue I refer to is for those whom use their phone often for multiple things and don't have direct access to recharge or plugin their phone.

Improving battery tech would b ea help to this issue and it would also help many other aspects of how batteries are used in many different fields.

cheers all. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
Impressive!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] inspired designs 33:
very true

that is true but as used many people do count on their phones for major access to the world at large, even more so as they use their phone for business.

so for those that do or even those that just communicate that way often or simply play games.....a battery that dies after 3 hours is very poor battery time.

we can go to space, we can make TV's the size of a wall, we can fix hearts, n use computers to computer alternate realities..... but will still cant improve or revolutionize a tech ( the battery ) in a way that suits our ever expanding use of its simple premise.... portable power in a small package.

cheers
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
If 3DS games weren't WAY better than any smartphone game on the planet (largely due to controls and triple A titles that smartphones lack) I'd agree. Sure the odd game of zen bound or raiden can be fun, I just can't do it for more than like 15 mins. I dunno, definitely a buttons guy when it comes to games.

I can see long battery life being great for watching movies on like a plane or something. They really do need to upgrade battery tech, it's moving at a snails pace compared to a lot of other things like smartphones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
Not that one. High capacity graphene batteries is what i meant lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] E66666666:
If only the Xperia Z Ultra wasn't big ;_;
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] inspired designs 33:
oh the High capacity graphene batteries yeah yeah... higher density... faster charge... more power or voltage i think.... almost an additive for lithium-ion batteries ..... cant wait to see the tech. Looks very promising.

hope the cost side of it all is good to. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] plasticmoz:
You can say that again...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
The new HTC One Google edition is looking very tempting right now! It when has beats audio in stock ROM and new nexus boot animation.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
I am extremely tempted to trade in my Note 2 for this phone. Battery life isn't even a concern because mophie makes a juice pack for the one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crazyguns:
Thats not a good idea imo... note 2 has 1gb ram, same as nexus, and performance for multitasking will be hindered on 720p phones with 1gb ram, no matter how fast the cpu is... the mega series is sligtly better imo:):)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Seraz007:
mega > note2?? LOLZ LOLZ LOLZ everywhere

:rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
I'm gonna guess and say you've never seen the spec sheet for the Note 2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Dude you didn't even read my comment correctly. I HAVE a Note 2. I want to trade it for the HTC One Google Edition. And hell no, the Note 2 destroys both Mega devices without batting an eye lid. Note 2 has 2 GB of ram and 1.6 GHz quad core.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crazyguns:
whoops.. sorry.. i always thought note 2 was like the s3 with a bigger screen.. htc one is pretty much THE BEST device out there right now, until note 3 arrives.. i suggest you wait a bit..

what about xperia z ultra? too big for your taste?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
The HTC One and GS4 are essentially equal when it comes to specs. I may wait, but I could buy a HTC One GE and it won't affect my upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Forward facing speakers. :thumbup:

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crazyguns:
Not just that, software wise I feel HTC has done a better job.. S4 might be the feature rich king of android phones but HTC is the ultimate premium smartphone in terms of design and usability.

Also, you don't need to buy the Google edition phones, the normal ones can be flashed with ge roms!

RootBox Halo Beta!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
If I'm going to spend $600 on a phone, I'm not buying one that comes with Sense on it. And the only thing the HTC One has on the S4 is forward facing speakers and build material. Others wise they are equal in the features they offer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gsnex:
Sorry dude, but as we all know HTC one is far more better than Iphone in many ways. Apple fans would have to wait for atleast 10 years to get the same features in a powerpack. :cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Think you quoted the wrong person...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] michaeljam:
I'm wondering when X-PHONE will come out to market however it sounded not made by LG this time, but Motorola...

Anyone hs latest news on this ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
That phone should get announced VERY soon.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] liquid150:
The X was never a nexus except in rumors. There is little known, but it was leaked by [MENTION=2199119]evl[/MENTION]eaks to have a 720p amoled screen, 1.7ghz dual core, 2 GB ram. Still all rumors.

I hope the above is just the mid range and that moto will release a flagship version with better specs.

LG was never a X phone rumor. It has always been Motorola.