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[Xperia Z General] Lucasm93:
S4 is just a hybrid A9/A15 like the Exynos in the S3.

It consumes less power for being dual core, but loses in performance both because of it's CPU and GPU.

For my usage profile, the GX may be better because of it's smaller size. I just don't know if it is as future proof as the S3. And I don't want to spend 600/700 US$ again in a phone for 2 years, thank you.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
The Exynos CPU used in the S3 isn't a "hybrid" of A9/A15. It's based entirely on the A9 architecture.

I'm not so much into benchmarks, but the results of the S4 were quite impressive. In some cases it was even better than Tegra 3.

In which way is the S3 more "future proofed" than the GX? Just because it has 2 additional A9 cores? Anyway whats this talk about future proof. I honestly don't get it. No offense but will your device stop working in one year or what?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
The Galaxy S3 is not as future proof as a Krait dualcore.

Why?

1: Applications are still usually coded single-threaded. Single-threaded applications benifit a lot more from a faster singlecore processor. Per core performance of the Krait dualcore is much better than Samsung's new Exynos.

2: Energy efficiency. One core in the Krait should use less power than one core in the new Exynos. 2 efficient cores VS 4 inefficient cores. You can feel the battery drain coming from miles away.

3: Benchmarks have shown that the Krait dualcore offers excellent Dalvik VM performance. Since Android is moving more and more from native layers to Dalvik layers the VM performance will get more important over time. From 2.3 to 4.0 for example, Google moved the entire database layer from native code to Dalvik Java code.

And aside that, have you seen Samsungs horrible track record when it comes to releasing updates? Their Touchwiz is so bloated they usually lack enough RAM to be able to upgrade a phone. Look at the Galaxy S for example. It's almost identical to the Nexus S hardware-wise, but the Galaxy S isn't getting an update to ICs. Why? Samsung can't make the ROM small enough without leaving out Touchwiz.

Sony on the other hand does the complete opposite, and gives users a lot of choice. They offer perfectly stable builds of the latest Android that perform quite well. However, you're not really forced to update. You get the proper choice. And that's how it should be.

Ideally Sony would be providing us with a way to manually choose what ROM to flash. EMMA already supports this anyway. It'd be epic if they offered their 2.3, their 4.0 and a clean AOSP build too (that can be flashed without unlocking bootloaders). Shouldn't be too hard for them and now that would increase their popularity :P
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Not gonna happen! :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] Lucasm93:
It is more future proof. Or you think that the next Android versions will be exactly like ICS? Or do you think that apps will be like they are today forever? It's called future for a reason my friend. The Exynos has a 32nm die process which is much different from the Tegra 3. It's memory bandwith allied with the Mali GPU is a beast. Don't get me wrong, I still haven't decided which one I'll get so I'm no fanboy.

Why do you think HTC customized the AT&T version (S4 Krait) of the One X to kill process earlier than even the Tegra 3 version? Because it can't handle Sense and other applications. It just can't.

I know it's ridiculous and no one will use this, but the SGS3 is able to play a video in the pop up feature while playing a heavy game. That just shows that the phone is ready for 2 years of updates.

I'm not saying that being future proof is a quality that you must consider. But it's one that I do, because I can't spend US$600/700 evey single year in a phone. I want a phone that can handle very well 2 years of usage.

And I agree that Sony is better at updates. But if they keep producing these high end mid level phones at such a price, I'm not buying them. I would just love to get the GX. But I don't wanna feel like a bought an "old" phone like those who bought the Xperia S.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony joining the display supplier club for next iPhone

Now I am curious, what display will be in the MINT?
[Xperia Z General] androidlover20:
when it will be officially announced by SONY?
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I think the X10 taught Sony (Ericsson) a lot. They thought they could release a phone as is and leave it at that, and they also thought that heavy customisation would give the phone (and therefore SE) an edge.

They soon realised that it did neither. It caused problems with the difficulty in updating the OS and caused much resentment from customers.

But, they listened and they did ultimately roll out a series of unexpected updates (remember - SE had stated it would not get updated beyond a certain point, or get things like multi-touch).

Then they announce that EVERY SINGLE phone released last year would get ICS. No exceptions! No other manufacturer has done that. SE has been forced to make some compromises (and we've seen Timescape modified and Mediascape axed) but has done so in order to fulfil its promises. I guess HTC and Samsung wouldn't want to do that, which is why many handsets won't get updated.

Meanwhile Motorola is continuing to make excuses, by saying Android 4 will worsen the experience for users (even on relatively high-end handsets that aren't a year old). Once again, Moto users are left stranded - and even those handsets that do get an update often get it so late, the user has long sold the handset and moved on. Take the Atrix - still an excellent phone (and perfectly fine with 'just' a Tegra2 chipset). It will be getting ICS - in Q3! How many people would still own this phone by then? What's worse is that it should get Weptop V3, which would make it function like a smartphone and tablet - and be pretty awesome.. but nobody will care.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Xperia GX - First Video Camera Sample. Taken indoors in a docomo shop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM7CTEXaeqk

Imo video quality is just average. I really, really hope that the final FW will do a better job. What do you think?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Wierd!!!!

Still NO official words from SONY..what are they waiting for???
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
They already announced it for Japan and now they are waiting for the right moment to announce the global availability. CommunicAsia is rumored to be the place. Maybe Sony is gonna surprise us next momth with some goodies that the Japanese GX don't offer :D
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
More delays n Samsung Galaxy S3 could steal the show from SONY !!!

from xperia PLAY
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26201332#post26201332
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Yeah CommunicAsia..thats in June 17-19 Singapore.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
But why would they introduce phones that a large part of Asia already has?
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
And I thought that Xperia Z upgrade is the upcoming honami? I'm not sure but as far as I'm aware Honami was suppose to be the 2H flagship model of Sony?

And flagship devices are usually launched first before mid range/non flagship models. So if that Xperia Z with 800 SOC is announced this month or next month then it should be the next flagship.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Xperia ZU Images Leaked
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
you forgot this
[Xperia Z General] lerijiso:
Fcuk..thats huge. The same size as the Galaxy Mega rite?
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Check this out

you might want to check this out not sure if its legit but iv ordered from this company before

---------- Post added at 07:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:17 PM ----------

sorry since i cant post links go to welectronics.com/gsm/Japanese%20and%20Korean%20Phones/SONY-XPERIA-HONAMI.html?gclid=COnPuYWn_bcCFTQOOgodckkArA
[Xperia Z General] quaver84:
Here ya go... :D

http://welectronics.com/gsm/Japanes...-HONAMI.html?gclid=COnPuYWn_bcCFTQOOgodckkArA
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
looks like TFT again
[Xperia Z General] Phat-T:
You crazy? That's not even a real pic of what the screen looks like
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
Of course it'll be TFT. IPS, SuperLCD, all of that is TFT.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Xperia ZU got 6.44" while Galaxy Mega got 6.3" only
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
lol darn quoted the wrong post... hhehe I meant the one next to XZ above
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Whacha think

so do u think its real i found when i search xperia honami in google and clicked shopper and ive ordered from the company before
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
It's not... The images is not even a concept image. Much more it isn't even officially announced yet. They might not be scam sites but when you order there they only offer preorder and might only ask you to wait for months until they get stock. But I won't preorder on a device that's not even officially launched yet...
[Xperia Z General] lerijiso:
That is so FAKE!!
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
The device is way too big for a phone its more targeted towards portable tablet category
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
thats why they made a mini phoneSBH52! OMG I WANT IT!!! good thing i didnt purchase sbh50 yet!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Comparison with Galaxy Mega - Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/sony-xperia-z-ultra/4505-6452_7-35798774.html

Here is the Smart Watch 2 - Source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/25/sony-smartwatch-2-water-resistant-android/
[Xperia Z General] jmquez:
OK, Sony you got my attention. Where/when can I give you my money?
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
thats a FREAKING HUGE phablet!

not sure if i want such a big device... i mean where do i keep it while i am riding my bike without a back-pack? :confused::confused:

like the smart watch though...
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Frankly speaking DoomLord - its not for us (Boys) !!
[Xperia Z General] myndlyz:
i cant wait to preorder this beast, i have always thought, i love my xperia z and wouldnt mind a bigger screen, this is just perfect!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Size Comparison between Xperia Tablet Z, ZU & Z !!
[Xperia Z General] Andrewtst:
Xperia Z Ultra spec is OMG! and the screen size is O-O-OMG!

Sony be hurry annoucing HONAMI as well! :D
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
completely agree with you on that...
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
Detailed review and pics against Samdung Mega

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/sony-xperia-z-ultra/4505-6452_7-35798774.html
[Xperia Z General] chrisrotolo:
no camera flash? kind of a cheap move... Anyways if anyone has any legit sources we can order/preorder the ZU please share here , Thank You.
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
No Camera flash?

Mock up photos only?

Let's hope.

Waiting for honami and will go from there.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
one thing is for sure - this is NOT phablet, this is Tabphone !!

If Sony wanted 6.4" phone, why such huge bezel !!

It would have been better 7" tablet with calling feature.

SONY - you never gonna be number One :(
[Xperia Z General] juanmaasecas:
NO flash, 8 Mpx camera and 1/4" sensor size. Awful pictures coming and people complaining...
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
That's why they release this I think (SBH52) : http://www.sonymobile.com/fr/products/accessories/smart-bluetooth-handset-sbh52/specifications/#tabs

The same girl is using it with ZU

Edit : also magnetic charger DK30 for ZU : http://www.sonymobile.com/fr/products/accessories/magnetic-charging-dock-dk30/
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
8MP can be better then XZ 13.1MP wait for photos before complaining.

I kinda like the device, but I don't have money for it :(
[Xperia Z General] juanmaasecas:
NO! If that 8 mpx were in a 1/3" sensor, like Xperia Z, that would be better IQ, specially in low light because of the "ultrapixel" (compared to Xperia Z). But the problem is the sensor in Xperia Z Ultra is SMALLER, it's a 1/4" sensor, it means same pixel size that Xperia Z (1.12 microns), and same IQ looking at 100% both pics, but a higher resolution in Z, which means better quality in all conditions. Do you understand? I apologise for my english.
[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
I actually want the phone !!

Going to be a good year for phones cant waittt
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
amazing phone!! shame about the no flash though.

this is not sony's next flagship because it's a phablet and too big.

I will wait until the fall when they announce their next 5" superphone. :good:
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
No préorder but they can send email when available, Just enter your email : https://account.sonymobile.com/noti...eriaL4&cc=fr&lc=fr&displayname=Xperia Z Ultra
[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
No flash?? not that i use my flash that often but what the hell ??
[Xperia Z General] kedirakevo:
Im actually disappointed there's no refresh of the Z...

I was actually hoping for a global launch of ZR as...

1) Better waterproof

2) Half HD screen (No i do not need fullHD on a phone... =.=)

but too bad they only launch in certain places... and Honami specs are rumored to be like ZR..... but since its not announced today... I guess its not coming?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Here is the hands on video

http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ3BTISa2xQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] Qwerty123 \m/:
SCUMBAG SONY.

Makes the perfect phone, excludes an LED flash.
[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
I hear ya, i can't see this being a successful launch and not a lot of developers will pick up the device.

Will pass but god damn it the phone is sexy
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
It doesn't means that they won't release a 5" Flagship in H2, as this one is more a phablet than a "normal" smartphone.
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
whats great to see is the IPS display finally they moved away from TFT
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Sony Xperia Z Ultra - Official Video, after watching this m going crazzzy!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h45uTBGftkQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
The Z ultra review !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw3UxTV7jig&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
Lol she almost dropped the phone when she got bumped buy the dude !

Good looking phone !!
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
same here the display is IPS so looks just amazing sharp wanna get mine but still worried about battery
[Xperia Z General] kedirakevo:
Im sorry... H2?
[Xperia Z General] zaynal:
XZU wallpaper looks nice. Anyone leaked it already?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Yeah, battery is a bummer, they shud have gone for 3500-4000!!

Other cons are:

Camera 8mp instead of 13mp

No led flash

Why the hell there is No stylus!!

sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
true , but MP is not a great deal as long as they give awsome pics , but no flash is a bummer , stylus still ok kinda good you dont have to buy iuf u loose one coz any thing will work on it so thats good , but again battery 4000 would have been good or a open port to charge so that we can use a portable charger , but flappy thing is again water proof voiding...
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
Second Half of the year! H1 first semester, H2 second semester (same for quarter : Q1 (january, february, march) ; Q2,Q3,Q4)
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Maybe

They are having another event on july 4th might announce it there
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
If the community wants to support me I'm definately interested in making some nice roms and kernel for it :)
[Xperia Z General] xIceCream:
Regarding the display technology, will the tri luminous and X reality be able to port over? Now i feel like XZ is just a prototype...
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
Yes it's the french event, but looking at the photo you can see a stylus with hand written words and the mobile seems to be the ZU (The invit says "a big/tall surprise" so might be the 6.4"), not sure if they'll announce another handset there...
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Yeah that would be pretty wired if they announce another huge handset but i was really hoping they would announce the xperia honami looks like a boss of a phone i would probably get it in a flash
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Maybe this is the rumour 7" inches Xperia Tablet
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
no the display on the ultra is a IPS and i think the x reality or Triluminos s actually hardware unlike bravia engine
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia Z Ultra - comparison with Galaxy Note 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjyTfj5gySM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
It's so thin
[Xperia Z General] zaynal:
According to BBC, XZU will be on sale next month (July) in China, Indonesia and Singapore.

"The Ultra follow-up was unveiled at the Mobile Asia Expo in Shanghai. The new device will go on sale in China, Indonesia and Singapore in July and then in Europe in September."

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23037488
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
Available to buy by next month in China, Singapore and Indonesia. Guess this is Sony fastest launch ever.

www.m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23037488
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Price Sony???

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[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Same device.

There seems to have been some internal problems within Sony as to when to announce this.

Different regions chose different dates - rather than one single global event, or doing them all at the same time. Presumably this was to tie in with operator announcements, and why the event today was not of the scale you might have expected.

Worse still, I am on holiday so didn't get to go! How dare they not check with me! ;)

I'm hoping I'll get to see one of the prototypes next week.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
??

so when do u think theyll announce the honami i was really hoping for it
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
€719 ($942)

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-price-confirmed-for-europe-25287846/
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
US announcements for both (ZU and honami should be in August)
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Hope so. As nice as the ZU is, I'm mostly interested in the Honami.
[Xperia Z General] Phat-T:
Summer just got better :)
[Xperia Z General] Qwerty123 \m/:
$800?!@?!?@!?#@

Okay. I'll pass. If there were a 13mp camera , bigger battery and an LED , this would be the phone id buy
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
How in the world will I ever be able to choose between the N3 and the ZU?
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Flip a coin? ;)
[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
Any pics of the Honami or specs ?
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
Well, hopefully, one of the phones will prove to be substantially superior to the other, making the choice easy. This is going to be an important purchase for me because I'm also going to be buying two tablets and a TV and want all of the devices to be part of the same "ecosystem", to use the phrase that's been bandied about lately.
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
Your comment is totally off-base, and the high levels of enthusiasm for this product in certain online circles proves it. But in case that's not enough, I will explain why this is nothing but you talking out of your ass:

Too big to be a phablet? Right. What chapter was it in Leviticus that specified that the upper limit was 5.5"? Oh that's right, nothing did, ever. This is totally your opinion, which I and many other people do not share. I say bring it on. If you have hands smaller than the Asian woman who was comfortably using this device in the promo video, then that's your problem, not mine and not Sony's.

And by the way, you're full of crap about pocketability. I cut a piece of cardboard into the 179x92 mm dimensions of this device, and it easily fits in the pockets of my DRESS PANTS, with a tailored-fit. That's right, it fits in dress pants, which are not exactly known for having huge pockets. So either you didn't actually research this before you posted, or you're being deliberately obtuse.

Stylus? Regular people don't care. I don't give a crap about it. But even to the extent that people do, most people are going to be more impressed with the Z Ultra's ability to use common objects as a stylus than they will a pressure-sensitive digitizer. Most people are not graphic designers who work on a smartphone. Non-issue, period.

3 piece ensemble. I am far too comfortable in my own skin to give a crap what an Internet nerd thinks about the size of my phone. Hence, I will buy this and won't hesitate to hold it to the side of my head to make calls. HOWEVER, Sony has anticipated your timidity and crass concern for your "image," and so they offer an optional accessory if you're not comfortable using it to make calls. Sounds like they're giving the consumer options, which is good.

Newsflash: most phones take terrible pictures compared to dedicated cameras. All Sony has done is to stop pretending that their phones are something they're not, given you a pretty good camera that's adequate for day-to-day Instagramming, and let you sort the rest out. You want a great camera? Buy a real camera.

Battery is 3050 mah, which is 98.4% the size of the Note 2's. In addition, the chipset is more efficient than the Note 2's, and the Triluminos display is significantly more efficient than a normal LCD. I'm not worried at all about the battery life.

So to sum it up, everything you just said is either wrong, or totally subjective.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Of course it's subjective.

I think it looks good from the pictures and videos but even I have reservations.

But I did with the Note too, and that had a fair degree of success - although possibly not enough for so many companies to now want to try and compete in this market.

I think I would be happy with my current set up, which is my Xperia Z and a Tablet Z (loan unit) with Belkin's Android keyboard/stand.

The ZU might bridge the gap but I do think the battery, lack of flash and some other issues put me off. But, I also think the Galaxy Mega is a waste of time. Low spec, large screen - presumably for people wanting to enjoy movies/photos and little else. A glorified digital picture frame or media player (remember those? Boy did they die quickly). At least the ZU has a killer spec in most departments.
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Did anyone find any good pics of the ZU UI? I wanna see the differences between it and the other 2013 devices.
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
anyone know any preview that has a good write up on the triluminos display? In English preferably. Many ppl said its looks amazing.
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
looking at the official media apps video for the ultra looks good the album music and movies seems to have got updated with a newer version...
[Xperia Z General] htc fan89:
I'm more interested in how the camera does in low lighting situation... don't understand why they didn't put a flash for the camera...
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
it was already explained... because sony wanted to make the thinnest smart phone on the market. they had to cut hardware to make the case thinner.

I think it's disappointing but to be honest I don't use flash on my camera all that much. I find that sexy screen and design much more appealing.
[Xperia Z General] HiddenSanctum:
Agreed, to be honest, LED flash kind of make pics look worse. I really prefer pictures without flash. No flashlight capability makes me sad though, I've found it to be quite useful at times
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
The design is almost identical to the z. I dislike the position of the headphone jack though..prefer it to be in top.

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[Xperia Z General] htc fan89:
The design is good, but another thing is the bezel at the bottom, they could have lessen it to some extend, like the xperia zl...
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
I'm pretty sure it's thinner than the Z which is quite an achievement.
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
I said the design is identical. Not the dimension. And at that thinness and long, I think it will feel weird to hold. Haha

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