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[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
If it reaches Singapore, I'm gonna get it! I've got one line to recontract and I'm saving it for the ZU

Sent from my C6603 using voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
coming to Singapore in July itself !!
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
woah!! really ? any source?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Simply google - "Xperia Z Ultra release dates Singapore" :)

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
HAHA 6.44 inch.

As an owner of a note 2 this is a right laugh, Makes the note look like an iphone.

Well done Sony idiots. Who wants to hold this monster to their head. phone companies have no idea what they are doing. They just cant help but screw up products.

Seriously what made them think 6.44 inch screen is going to be a good size for a phone.
[Xperia Z General] raiderkilo:
Years back laugh people about Galaxy Note.
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
Xperia Blog report préorder for 679€ on amazon.de.

I'd rather get the LTE Tablet Z for 629€ and wait for the Honami at the end of the year.

edit : wonder if it's a smart move from Sony to go "the thinner" way, it make the devices really too fragile.
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
You do realise our hands are not growing at the same rate as these phones?

This is ONE INCH bigger than the Note 2! whilst wanting to be slim? Seriously since when was a phone too fat?

that video shows the guy can barely hold the phone in one hand.

I bet this phone will flop.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Can't the Galaxy Note 8.0 be used as a phone? And that has a huge bezel.

I think even Samsung doesn't know the ideal size but works on the principle that if you throw enough mud, some of it will stick.

Samsung is in a position to be able to make just about every size and see what works, or just get some sales for all of them. Although the Note did have success, I am not sure the market was that big then, let alone now Sony, Asus, Acer, Huawei, ZTE etc are all joining in.
[Xperia Z General] -nlf-:
xperia z ultra viewing angle compare with xperia z

xperia z ultra viewing angle compare with xperia z
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
i think the phone aspect of the 8 inch note is more like conferencing rather than holding it to your head like a phone.

Personally i think 6 inches is the limit to a phones size and that might be pushing it for some hands.

Sony has just tried to 1up the note by going bigger. Bigger in the only area that DOESNT MATTER! :)

Small battery and cut features just to keep it slim? Seriously Sony wtf?

This is the same stupid sony who thought TN panels were a good idea on the Z.
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Oh hell yes :p

Sent from my C6603 using voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
do u see the screen of ur phone at those angles? if yes something is wrong with you...

honestly i dont understand these comparisons of "viewing angles"... people normally use phones/devices to look at them HEAD ON... not try and catch a glimpse of them at an obtuse angle...

anyways... the PHONE LOOKS HUGE!

the Xperia Z looks like a baby in front of the Z Ultra...

i find the Xperia Z to be slightly uncomfortable for single handed operations...
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
When a phone is on a table or other surface you can see whos calling or texting without having to pick up the phone.

Viewing angles are important.

End OF.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
You can still see at an angle, but the colours and contrast might be a bit off. Not a major problem.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love the HTC One screen on my XZ but for 99% of the time it really doesn't matter as I look at my phone (as I am now on Tapatalk) straight on.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Years back people laughed about Desire HD and HTC EVO.
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
TN panels are inferior technology in all but pixel response. OLED and IPS are better in every way.
[Xperia Z General] SmallsXD:
But the Z doesn't use a TN panel...
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
So with the Z officially/"exclusively" coming to T-Mobile, does that mean they might get the Honami as well and not AT&T? Or is there still a chance AT&T is gonna wake up...

I'm looking to switch from Sprint, but am also looking to get a new Sony phone (preferably with a shutter button).
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
I personally have a fonepad, a 7" tablet with phone capabilities and i love it, a lot of people here in asia have the tab 7, particularly girls. And no, a lot of people just simply put it up to their ears to talk. The're a lot of 7" tablet sold, but without phone capabilities it just don't sell well. As Asus realised, here in Malaysia 80% of tablet sold are 7" and 80% are tab 7, as it the only one with phone capabilities. All Sammy tablet even the 10" have phone capabilities.

Do I mention that people here to are comfortable in carrying multiple phone, lines are cheap, and it even goes cheaper by having multiple lines. most people at least has 2. Mostly an iPhone with a tab 7. I could carry my fonepad in my pants even jeans but the thick bazel and size is kind of annoying, so I do have high hope for the ZU.
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
Im sorry but the west certainly doesnt copy the east its the other way around. We wont be picking up the stupid idea of putting a 7" tablet to our ears.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Yeah im also interested in the honami 6.4 inches is just too big to be a phone for me
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Yeah nobody in west using Note 2 or will not buy Note 3 !!!!

Guys, lets stop discussing about size now, it cant be changed, may be gals gonna love this device n some boys who always wear coats or who always carry some kinda bag!!!

sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
Note is 5.5" Not an issue with the note.

Also girls hands are small and they wont be able to hold this phone comfortably

i hope it flops as bad as i think it will. teach sony another lesson
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
don't think this one will flop, infact I think it will be quite popular at least in some region. People keep forgetting that there are a lot of ppl that carry a ipad or nexus 7 size device and a phone a long with them all the time; which I see a lot when I ride the train every morning.
[Xperia Z General] irzero:
I think people forget this is an $800 phone.

Just because they carry a tablet on the train doesnt mean its a usable device for phone purposes.

I cant wait to see the idiots holding this paving slab up to their heads. It will make my day. Thats if anyone buys it.
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
High five Malaysia bro, although I don't live there anymore. This is why I think Sony release this phone is specific market first, they obviously has done some research. Coming out in Singapore and Indonesia first, which is very close to Malaysia. They probably think South east asia are more into that sort of thing. China is just a massive market, maybe it just can't go wrong for them, even if it only sold to a small percentage, that is already a large quantity.

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Price is still cheaper than tablet + phone, you can't say "hey look idiots with big phones" unless you are one of them. They see the value in these devices, you clearly don't. Like these devices are clearly intended for certain ppl, I don't see why ppl keep bashing them. I own a S3 which is tiny and I never pull out my phone to answer call, only use the headset. I might even get a smartwatch 2 eventually.
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Samsung seems to think there's a market for large phones. The Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3 is just a little smaller than this Xperia Z Ultra.

I didn't understand the appeal of the Samsung Notes. At the beginning, I only really saw middle aged asian women with it (though there is now a wider demographic who has them).

I asked one of my customers, an asian guy in his late 40s why he liked the Note 2. He said he's getting old and his eyes aren't as good anymore. A bigger screen is welcome feature and he's getting some premium specs with it too, no some watered down hardware with a big screen.

For me, I'm hoping for no more than 5".
[Xperia Z General] jmquez:
So many couch product designers in here today!

Bad design is having to carry a phone and a tablet every day like many here are saying. For some of us calling is 1% of our phone use, and when we do we usually put headphones or on loud speaker anyway.

This phone is not for everyone, but its definitely for me!
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
yeah this phone is also too big for me personally but my dad would love a bigger screen, he won't have any problem carrying something like ZU around during winter since it will fit into his jacket just find, but summer is a problem. Honami leaks sounds like a perfect phone for me, size and camera wise since I have never own a camera before.
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
You can see just fine who's calling using Xperia z when its on the table.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
It's odd to me that people are hating on this phone, as if it's the only device Sony is going to sell and it has somehow replaced the Z.

The ZU is for a certain market that Sony has perceived to exist, presumably based on its own detailed research (which extends beyond what one person thinks in their bedroom) and seeing how other devices have fared. It isn't a replacement to the Z, so why care about it (or keep finding reasons to slate it) if you are happy with one of the other choices?

I mean, Sony has given us the Z, ZR and SP (And the wonderful Tablet Z that I am using right now). I love my Xperia Z, but my wife thought it was too big and liked the SP - partly because of the illuminated antenna bar. The ZR isn't (sadly) coming to the UK, so wasn't an option unless we bought one SIM-free from Europe.

Later, Sony will bring a newer flagship that some might consider to replace the Z, but given the Z was announced on Jan 6th, is that such a problem? Will the full-HD screen suddenly switch to SP? Will the S4 Pro chipset suddenly be too slow, despite being up there in the top 10 (top 5) of phones in terms of performance? Will it no longer be as water resistant as it was? No, of course not.

Samsung floods the market with loads of devices, some which will sell well everywhere, some in certain markets and some will flop completely. Sony hasn't had that luxury due to financial issues, but it seems that it has got a good portfolio of devices for 2013 and is catching up on using the latest hardware - so 2014 should be quite exciting.

It seems to me that from now on, Sony will be trying to go back to the early days of Sony Ericsson where you looked to the company for new features, not as a company mostly trying to catch up.

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Yes, but irzero hates Sony. Look through the thread to find anything positive and I doubt you'll find anything.
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
the fact that they were the first to announce S800 device and not coming out 6 months later is a good sign.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Indeed.

But even the Xperia Z is hardly using old tech. Besides the faster RAM and a higher clock speed, Snapdragon 600 is pretty much identical to S4 Pro.
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Allege photo of the Sony Honami has surfaced.

http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-honami-xperia-i1-pic-235762/
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
To me it looks like a photo shopped white Xperia Z with IR.
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
Look like the Japanese version of the Z which have IR blaster.
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
hope it's true. the Z design is perfect!

just needs improved internals.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
!!!

Getting excited!!! hope it comes before september because my contract ends in august
[Xperia Z General] kedirakevo:
I noticed there's no ZR forums here?
[Xperia Z General] airjyp:
Thanks fyi :)
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
AT&T is not picking it up. Haven't heard anything new about T-Mobile.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] Mambobuzzz:
Damn, Honami will be as big as Z is.., :-/
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
They called you a troll on eSato and now I'm gonna have to call you a troll on XDA as well ! I'm waiting for the Honami too, but in the meantime..

Xperia Z Ultra - Best 6"+ phablet ever

Screen: 6.44" Who decided that it was too big to be a phablet ? I'm finding the Galaxy Note (5.3") a little small, so I'm happy that there is a 6.44" high end product.( this is called subjectivity, in case you didn't know)

Why? Do you keep your phone in your back pocket ? Ever heard of the mythical feature known as changing the display mode, popularly called as "Turn bravia mode off" ? Or maybe changing the screen mode to 'natural' or 'movie' ?

Stylus: Use a pencil or a pen.There, unlimited number of styluses.Don't tell me you can't afford to keep a pencil or pen on your person the whole time:rolleyes:.Don't get started on the GNote gimmicks, cause that's what they are.Granted, it is aimed at a niche market, but that doesn't mean it won't sell.(Almost) no one is katamari201 either.

3 Piece ensemble: As long as they can be used separately, who cares ? If people need the phone but are worried about how they might look with that phone on their ear, they can use the head set.Besides, it isn't as if the headset is locked to he Xperia Z Ultra only.

8 MP: I'm fine with 8 MP.Because it is 8 MP.

3000 mAh : Have you seen the software optimization on Samsung products ? Horrible.The only way they can have decent battery life is by a huge battery.Besides, the SD800 is more efficient than the S4 Pro (some say pwer consumption is halved at low load), which was way better than any Exynos processor in efficiency.

Cost : So ? You can't expect a $600 price tag on something like this.Its more practical to buy what you want.Always.

Uh huh.And how do you know all of that? Did Samsung tell you ? Stop counting your chickens before they hatch.Let Samsung release the specs and then we'll see.

Sent from my Galaxy Note N7000
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I agree with above post, this phablet is meant for medialcholic person who wants to use it mostly for watching movies/serials/youtube videos.

And honestly how many people these days use phone for calling, my average usage (CALLING) through phone is 15-20 minutes !!

Most of the calls I do is for official purpose and that too from office !!

So if this is NOT a phone for you, STOP trolling here and be happy with below 3,4,5 inches phone !!!
[Xperia Z General] welshlad:
katamari201 is just obviously not used to handling anything bigger than 5 inches...
[Xperia Z General] chrisrotolo:
download Xperia X Ultra whitepaper from sonymobile.com

Link here, PDF too large to attach

so I downloaded the whitepaper.pdf from the website,

This thing will not ship with X-Reality engine but will be a software update.

Also perhaps a clue about the release date:

* X-Reality™ for mobile will be available for this device through the forthcoming software upgrade available

to download over the air. Sony Mobile will use reasonable endeavours to make this software available to

end users in the week commencing September 9th, 2013 or as soon as possible thereafter

also claims 1080p video recording with 2MP front cam, I've seen other OEMs claim the same thing, I'm not so sure though.

also :LTE cat 4 up to 150Mbps, isn;t anything over 100 LTE-Advanced?

Also this helpful note in the fine print: * Memory comprises approximately 5 GB of firmware plus 11 GB of “Internal storage” for music, pictures

and movies, and downloaded applications and their data. For more details about memory, See “Memory in

Android™ devices” on page 15.

also in fine print: in Entertainment features, it says Playstation Certified** ** This service is not available at time of launch.

also 200MB of the 2GB RAM will be used out of the box... not too bad Sony (Im looking at you Samsung)
[Xperia Z General] Why So Serious?:
Those viewing angles look so much better than the Z... no more of that stupid grey haze that clouds the screen when viewed from an angle.

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I know people say viewing angles don't matter that much, and to an extent I agree as most of the time you're looking at a phone head on, but if I am at work and have my phone on my desk somewhere, I'd like to be able to turn it on to quickly check something from where I'm sitting and see clearly whatever is on the screen rather than having to pick it up and hold it in front of my face for clarity.

If you've ever sat next to someone showing you something on an iPhone and compare that experience to one of Sony's displays there's a noticeable difference. It's not a deal breaker by any means but on such a premium phone I would like all boxes to be ticked.

The triluminous technology looks like a huge step forward in that respect. It doesn't need to be 178 degree viewing angles (or whatever IPS is), but I would prefer the display not to degrade in quality even at a slight angle.

Sounds to me like a Honami with Triluminous + White Balance is going to be the best ever customizable screen tech combination. Can't wait.
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
AT&T isn't interested in the Honami either? What are they waiting for? ...Or, they done waiting for Sony. The only reason I'd switch from Sprint to AT&T is to get a TL to hold me over til their next Sony phone. But if they're not getting one, I don't see the point.
[Xperia Z General] R@mi:
after the leak i think it will look like that:
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
SEXY!!!

Looks sexy
[Xperia Z General] Mr.TheND:
Look like Xperia Z. I hope it has breakthrough design. :D
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
Honami is suppose to be the first One Sony device, isnt the design should looks a bit more different from current design?
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
?

so when do u guys thin it will come out
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
Honami? Think its getting unveil in Aug, so anytime after that.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
honami will look like xperia z and z ultra combined together.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
!!

But august is so far away jk
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
I think it still gonna be 5 inch
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Yeah 5 inches is the perfect size for me. I just hope that it has a snapdragon 800 and hopefully dual front speakers to rival the htc one and according to fonearena they might announce at there july event where they will also show off the z ultra and check this out kind of confusing http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42971910#post42971910
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Honami pic leaked

More at http://justamp.blogspot.co.il/2013/06/sony-xperia-honami-i1-live-pics.html
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
They need to release this soon. I want to give them my money damnit.
[Xperia Z General] :
They will take mine first xD

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I see what you did there xD
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
I know right needing a upgrade take my money sony
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
I see that shutter button I asked for. ...All is well.

Now I just need a clue as to who will provide it in the US. (and when)
[Xperia Z General] CowMix:
Wait AT&T passed on the Z and the Honami? Are they done with Sony phones altogether?
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
The schedule is to release Honami a couple of weeks after Z Ultra.

Time will tell if they keep up to this schedule.
[Xperia Z General] Wishmaster89:
That's a great news. Considering that Z Ultra should be available very soon it means that either Honami will be launched not far from now or it will be released few days after announcement. One way or another that's a good news.
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
"Very soon" is September. Which to be honest is soon, just a couple of months away.
[Xperia Z General] Wishmaster89:
In some parts of the world Z Ultra should be available in July and globally by September, so if Honami is released in September then it really is very soon IMO. Right on time to rival iphone 5S and noteIII(in case of Z Ultra).
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Check this out

Might be announced at sonys july 4th event the device in the invite is the honami not the ultra because the ultra does not have a camera shutter button and device in the picture does check out this article http://www.androidauthority.com/rumor-sony-honami-paris-july-4-236574/
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
No just passing in this years. Plans are to pickup the Spring 2014 device. But plans change so we will see.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Hope Singapore gets it in July! :angel:
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Anyone got T-mobile

Hey does anyone have t-mobile i hope t mobile gets the honami and i hope they dont charge more than they do for the s4 which is $99 down plus $20 a month for 2 years i hope they dont go over that but well see t-mobile has an event on july 10th getting excited for the sony mobile event !!!!!
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
so Honami isn't really a Camera phone after all?
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Nobody knows

I dont really know in the leaked photos it showed a huge flash on the front
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
yeah, why is it backward?
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
I dont know

I really dont knowbut as long it the camera is a least 13mp and it has a snapdragon 800 its going to be my device
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Yeah, it's got a Xenon flash but I think he's wanting an optical zoom or something like that.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
?

Yeah but why is the big flash on the front
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Who wants some more detailed specs from Honami ;) I have system files, can't share them, but I can post some details about the phone ;)
[Xperia Z General] E!ch0:
No.. Nobody cares..

Haha sure bro how do u get it?;)

Post something we r not sure yet

If its true.., like the 20Mp camera n stuff..:)

Still here;)

N!geR --> E!ch0
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
I'm not 100% sure about 20MP cam, but:

- Camera app has:

- strings for 20MP

- ISO upto 12800

- Steadyshot modes

- More other settings​

- X-Reality Engine

- Snapdragon 800, MSM8974 2.3GHz

- Adreno 330

- 2GB RAM

- 5" screen like XZ

- Bluetooth 4.0

- Atheros WLAN

- Pedometer sensor

- And I'm guessing it will have the rumored MX or MM (or whatever it was again) audio chip because I found a build.prop line about 5.1 DD audio output I think ;)

I'm going to check dump for more tomorrow ;)
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
Does it have the Tri-luminous display?
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
Krab can you also check the battery stats to see how much of battery is housed?
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
Tell us more! i'm excited! Also, how did you get that info??? LOL
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
huh ? wasn't the Togari supposed to have 2.2ghz ?

"- ISO upto 12800" also seems crazy! even on my EOS 500D if you go over 6000 you will get problems with noise ^^

btw, WTF is a Pedometer ?
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
pedometer is to tracking your health stuff like walking jogging , even the S4 has it
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Sold

im already sold
[Xperia Z General] Phat-T:
Let's you know how close pedophiles are close to you! :p
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
I just want a good camera with good image processing I don't care if it's 20MP I just want it to be good and xenon flash please!
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
I can't see in a system dump if the display is triluminous I think, I don't have the device ;)

Ok, there is nothing about battery in build.prop ;)

I have a system dump ;) but I can't share it.

Pedometer is to count your steps etc. :)

There are strings for 20MP and ISO12800 it doesn't mean it will actually have it, but there is a chance :)

And it will have SD800 prime, which has standard clock of 2.3GHz ;)
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
@ krabappel2548

G'day. I am curious if your info regarding the steadyshot modes mentions anything about whether it's balanced optical steadyshot. Hoping it is as that stuff is amazing on Sonys handycams.

Anything talking about the flash? LED, plasma or xenon?

Thanks!
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Display will definitely be triluminous.