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[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
Snapdragon 800 are already 2 month old chipset

Xperia Z Ultra was released in July http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z_ultra-5540.php

it is currently the best available chipset but it can change in next 2 months or so...
[Xperia Z General] snehil93:
What happened to nvidia tegra 4? Last year the tegra 3 gave stiff competition to snapdragon. This year they are not making it to any top devices
[Xperia Z General] nielneal:
It’s the smartphone everyone’s been talking about... not long now

on sony facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...58.35313373389&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Sony Xperia Tweets Xperia Honami Pic

Sony Xperia Tweets Xperia Honami Pic just now as #bestofSony . Sony Mobile also posted the same pic on FB timeline.

Power button and glimpse of volume rocker button shown.

via http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/08/22/sony-xperia-tweets-xperia-honami-xperia-z1-pic-as-bestofsony/

Sony Xperia Tweet - https://twitter.com/sonyxperia/status/370457070942060544/photo/1

Sony Mobile FB timeline - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151798602408390&set=a.118653383389.98058.35313373389&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Get a ZU here in SG and get three freebies, wow, great move Sony :thumbup:

Sent from my C6603 using voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
Which freebies?
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
The SBH52 , leather case cover and Xperia Z Ultra Official Guidebook(useless) LOL
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I think that if you've got the Xperia Z, you might be better off waiting. I mean, if the phone comes out in October/November, then come January at CES they'll show the next flagship - for release, as already said, late February/early March.

With the latest firmware, and 4.3 on its way that should make the phone feel quite new with the revised UI and apps, I think the Xperia Z is still going to hold its own. I mean, it's hardly slow - and the user experience is excellent. The only complaint is the camera in low-light, but I am wondering if the new camera will be better or worse in low light.. and those fancy 'stick on' cameras will work for the Xperia Z anyway.

I do think Sony needs to try and move towards annual flagships, and then have variants of its phones - from the cheaper low-spec models, to the likes of the ZR and Honami mini, keeping the top spec but with a smaller screen to appeal to a wider audience. I just don't think there should be such little time between releases, nor is there any real need for it.

Sony TVs generally get annual updates, and I think Sony can do that with mobile - even if handsets in different segments are staggered.

But, hey, we haven't seen the final product in the flesh yet.. so it might be so awesome we can't resist, and will have the same question come January about whether to get the next model!
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Yes but only the hardware is drastically Changed. For Example jumping from s4 pro snapdragon 600 is not worth it, but jumping to a snapdragon 800 is a good upgrade.. Till now Qualcomm hasn't announced any successors to S800.. I am still curious what the next flagships will be made of in terms of processor technologies..
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
It's expensive to buy in Singapore.costs $SGD 1038 right?

1,038.00 SGD = 2,683.99 MYR

In Malaysia costs about 2,099.00 MYR = 811.763 SGD with free gifts too (not sure what gifts)
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Snapdragon 800 seems like a beast given what has been seen on the Z Ultra, but I really do struggle to pick up my XZ (.245) and ever find a time that I thing 'dang, this is slow'. I'd rather lower power consumption from the new phone (and it has the bigger battery too) than just more power to impress when running benchmarks.

I thought just the same when reviewing the HTC One and Galaxy S4, where the faster RAM and clock meant the S600 was quicker in tests - but not really anything you can notice in reality.

The only difference was when Sony released the first 4.2.2 update and made a mess of it. The stuttering launcher made me wish for a faster phone, but that was only down to bad coding, not any weakness on the S4 Pro.

Still, on this forum I'd naturally expect more of us to decide to upgrade without any rational thinking.. so perhaps my advice is more for the average person, where the XZ is still a perfectly good phone.
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Keeping a S4 pro phone, you can think twice for jumping to a S800 phone.... But for people like me having a S2 1ghz single core processor have no choice now and can directly chose a S800 phone. But still the battery back time is same... Like charging once a day. No audio improvements ex: Dolby or DTS. Or even new camera sensor or lenses technology. What if the next flagships have more battery back up. I keep my phones as long as I can....
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Under telco plans, will be cheaper ;)

Sent from my C6603 using voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
My question is regarding Xperia Z Ultra, I could not see why people will buy it??? I have used it, its awesome design and is very thin, performance is awesome. But what abt these factors:

1. Tooo big - how guys will carry?

2. Poor battery life - 4hrs on screen time on 3G

3. Writing is very poor, didnt recognise the strokes if you wanna write in a flow.

4. Fingerprint magnet - used black set

5. Poor camera, no flash - compared with XZ.

PLEASE DO NOT START WAR HERE, I AM BIG SONY FAN - ITS JUST MY OPINION & WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU :)

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[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
I plan to buy the Z Ultra when the C6806 becomes available. I would answer thusly:

1. It's not too big, there are numerous photos and videos of guys fitting it in their jeans pocket without much, or any trouble. I have cut a piece of cardboard into the Z Ultra's dimensions and verified that it fits quite nicely into almost all of my pants pockets. It will not fit into all pockets, of course, but it's not big enough to categorically state "it's too big."

2.a. I'm not sure what you're used, but to me, 4 hours of screen-on time on 3G is no joke. It may not be class-leading, but it sounds better than what I'm getting on my Nexus 4.

2.b. Several people in the Z Ultra forum are posting screenshots of 5+ hours screen-on time. This will only get better after custom ROMs and kernels are available for the device and we can underclock + undervolt. I don't think you can fairly call this "poor" battery life. In fact, it seems pretty good, especially when you consider how huge the display is.

3.a. Can't comment, haven't used it, but in my personal case, I'm not that interested in the handwriting recognition, so while I acknowledge that other people may find this to be an issue, for me it's no big deal.

3.b. The Z Ultra, in a sense, is still running "pre-production" software. The new UI and software features shown in all the hands-on events is not available yet, so perhaps we should wait until September when it's available to definitively comment on this.

4. Doesn't bother me that much, as I appreciate devices that are meant to be USED, not just gawked at, lol. I'd rather it catch its bumps and bruises on the battlefield, so to speak, doing what it was designed to do, than spend its life cowering in my pocket. That said, I don't think the white and purple versions will suffer from this quite as much.

5. I'm not sure that it really is a poor camera--Engadget's sample shots looked pretty good to me, and some XDA users have posted some nice shots. I personally think you're being unfair here. Anyway, it's a phone camera, they're designed for convenience and speed, not to replace the real McCoy, so IMO we should judge them in this context. In addition, the Z Ultra is closer to a tablet than a smartphone, and so I think its camera ought to be compared more with other tablet cameras, and it gets even better when evaluated in this light. I personally am bothered not at all by the lack of flash, as they generally make shots look just as bad or worse as they would have looked without it anyway, IMO. Even if you don't agree, I really don't take that many pictures, and when I do, I'm not a photography buff, so all I care about is that you can clearly see that funny thing the dog is doing, or how delicious this cheeseburger I'm about to eat is.

This is, of course, all my opinion, and I recognize that this is not a device for everyone. I don't think it's meant to be, however.
[Xperia Z General] styxter:
We had same issue here. As of now, i decided not too replace my Xperia z but if ever this honami release is so better in physical aesthetics, for sure faster chip, hype camera, magnetic connector that I can assume it will be universal to other upcoming Sony phone, and lastly a great battery performance. I think it will change my decision not too replace my Xperia z.
[Xperia Z General] zaynal:
Latest Honami pic:
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Oh there is a camera button!
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
looks amazing!
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
This one should be good :D
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Not realistic...

C6603 ?
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
i know but it should be good if it's true ;)
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
This gonna be the real Z1/honami look

C6603 ?
[Xperia Z General] Funk2641:
So, will the Xperia ZU or Honami be sold unlocked in North America? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Anyone knows what phone is this?
[Xperia Z General] m3lover1:
I am in the same boat... Except I bought my Xperia Z from Sony August 2, so I have a week before I can return it. I'm debating whether to return it and wait for honami announcement and get that phone. Only thing is it is unknown when it is actually going to be released, and I don't have a phone to use for now since I sold my nexus 4 to my cousin. Buggers
[Xperia Z General] Natakranta:
Looks like new red edition of Oppo Find 5
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
no it's an Xperia Smartphone
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Looks like Xperia M...
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Look like sonyericson phone :D
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
no not Xperia M

Which model?
[Xperia Z General] soulrebel1:
Apparently It's 190g :crying:

This could be a deal breaker. I do not want a heavy phone.
[Xperia Z General] katamari201:
It won't be that heavy. That is with the black box concealing the shape. The tester himself said he could not see the phone shape. Even if 190g, if you can handle a Lumia 920 okay, this should be even easier as it's less dense.
[Xperia Z General] styxter:
If i am in your shoes, il wait for honami or go with zu, cause in xz case, it is a 6month old phone, and s4 pro vs s800 chipset and gpu upgrade is a big helps also. Just 2 cents.
[Xperia Z General] m3lover1:
Thanks. Agreed. I decided to return it. Have another week or so. Just have to restore back to stock rom, relock bootloader, and restore the keys for bravia, etc
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
I think i'll go for xz anyway.

S4 pro is more than enough, compared to my old neo with 1 ghz single core which is half dead now.
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Dude, you won't feel a lot of difference between for example 130g and 190g, 190g isn't heavy at all. Yeah maybe for a phone, but if that's a deal breaker, the world is becoming way too demanding..
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Lets wait for the official word from Sony guys - I cant see why Xperia Honami will be 190gm when its almost same build as Xperia Z !!!

Lets see may be 190gm comes with some good surprise !! :)
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
Yes like the testers said it is probably. Because of the 3000Mah battery
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Battery weight makes Alot of difference, try holding a note 2,after that remove it, and hold it, it's super light without the battery on
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
Well me too would likely buy it once price drop. Now it's RM1900. Around US630 I guess. Sure will drop more when the LTE version/hanomi /note 3/ fonepad note, one maxx become available.

1) nah, it's small. I used to carry asus fonepad around. But the thickness and huge bazel really annoyed me. ZU is about the same size as galaxy mega and both felt ok in the pants.

2) some malaysian forumers seems able to run 6 hours SOT on 3G. They say it about the same with mega and note 2. Not great but sufficient enough.

3) it's ain't wacom. I never have high hope for it. Sony like Asus never get thing right on the 1st firmware. True potential should occur after 3-4 month I guess.

4) so does the Z and all the galaxies.

5) yup, Its poor, the same module as in my xperia SP. but very good on daylight. But lowlights, u better of with xperia V. I assume it is about the same quality from xperia S. But hey. Sony got those weird detachable camera thingy coming out! Buy that and never have to worry about any phone bought afterwards!
[Xperia Z General] ck.chunkeat:
Guys, theres another thread which just shows us what seems to be honami mini!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2419113
[Xperia Z General] zzcool:
looks smaller than i thought it would be

also it looks exactly like xperia z no outer frame as honami?

i was hoping for a 4.6 inch honami mini with as thin bezels as xperia z or slightly thinner
[Xperia Z General] wednesday13:
Is s4 pro to s800 even a big leap? I'm still using s4 dual and haven't noticed big diff with the s4 quad.
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
The handwriting on the Ultra is excellent, it understood my terrible handwriting no problem.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
CPU-wise in benchmarks, yes. Huge difference. In real-world usage: hardly noticeable.

GPU-wise is a big difference both in benchmarks and real-world usage. The GPU in the S4 Pro gets a tad too slow to keep everything smooth at Full HD once it starts throttling down. The Snapdragon 800 should be smooth at all times.
[Xperia Z General] wednesday13:
I see. Only prob is the battery and lack of ram. But I think waiting for 20nm chips are going to be worth it, will we get it next year?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Lack of RAM? 2GB is plenty for Android, it really, really is. Even with aggressive caching it's hardly ever completely filled.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I can't run my RAM down. 2GB seems absolutely fine, but of course it allows developers to become lazy and mean that one day it won't be enough.

Look at the PC industry to see how silly it can get with even pretty basic applications requiring a stupid amount of resources.

I'm using my Nexus 4 right now (XZ battery dead) and since 4.3, I have to say that even this is now incredibly fast.
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Xperia Honami G Lens Confirmed.

another Honami teaser, Sony Mobile posts on FB timeline.

G Lens confirmed.

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[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Look like a xenon flash or it's the same old led?
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Same old led flash it seems.

Like we saw in previous images, there is no branding of 20.7 mp cam near g lens logo.

May be Sony delibrately edited it or may not be...
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
But it has a xenon's shape or i am wrong?
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
May be or may not be, lets wait for another teaser image :P
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
It looks like xenon for me.

C6603 ?
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
I xenon flash would be be retangular, that's LED.
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
The point is that it's better than the Z's

C6603 ?
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Not really the cover could be circular ;)

Look the led on the Z it's square inside.

The camera's cmos is rectangular but the lens is circular.
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Sorry, I know what you're getting at, but it would be long and thin, like you see on a camera.
[Xperia Z General] nX3NTY:
Those are L.E.D flash, xenon flash is a lot bigger and more rectangular than that. It's sad, but I'm hoping it could do long exposure at least a few seconds (S4 Zoom could do 16 sec, why can't this?) and could do ISO below 100 so I could do nice long exposure at night.
[Xperia Z General] Denie46:
We can see the camera and the led flash but what about the ir blaster, will it be included?
[Xperia Z General] Denie46:
LOL don't get me wrong, i know this is an old technology but there were rumours saying that so i thought it should be there :D
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Unknown, Rog over on esato who's another reliable source of info like yourself stated that the GX is the Mint. We've asked for clarification but he hasn't had a chance to respond yet. Any comments?
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
I've mentioned it many times that Mint is Hayabusa with LTE, that should be pretty self explanatory :D Does that mean I said it first? :p
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Yes you said it first! How different in GX from Hayabusa? :p
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
lol, I suppose so.

So... where are we at now? Hayabusa is the GX without LTE, Mint is the GX with LTE. Hayabusa will have a plastic casing like the GX (different design though) and the Mint will have an aluminum body (like the Ion, or more like the P?).

Hmm... I'm excited and confused and... dangit, I'll just sit here happy that we got some new pics :D

I'm still confused about which phone is getting the OLED display
[Xperia Z General] minhtri:
that is not Sony Vietnam

that website is fan made
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
check this:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/09/xperia-gx-and-xperia-sx-announced-by-sony-mobile-japan/
[Xperia Z General] mrsanches:
I didn't like the design of both two... I'll probably wait for next year smartphone

Hoping that it will have some quad-core 2.x processors, good ram, enough internal storage(having that issue with my Arc) and, why not, better batteries and a screen just as the active had :P
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys,

So if Xperia GX is Hayabusa with same design roughly same configuration..

What's your opinion?

How do u rate GX as compared to Xperia S??
[Xperia Z General] cikomiko:
i really miss the transparent bar on hayabusa/gx.

it looks way too minimalistic now. only the arc-curved back is special about its design.

but i´ll still sell my xs and buy hayabusa a few months later than its release.
[Xperia Z General] AnubisNefer:
Kinda dissapointed with the design. Will stick with my Xperia S, imo the design is much more unique.

Specs is not everything. Quad-core, Dual-core, all just for marketing, there are still one core processors that work just fine compared to some dual-core processors in benchmark tests.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I want release date for Singapore :D

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[Xperia Z General] blackon:
My news feed tells me they are for the Japan market only.. Oh well at least we know ICS is all set. Just a couple weeks to wait..
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Design is not looking sharp, confused now !!!

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[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
How do you know that the ICS update is ready to go?

Any sources? Please share.

These phones look like variants of the ion for different markets.

For me personally, I'd never buy any of these variants because a few months later, they'll release the new flagship for 2013 probably with a quad core processor. If I'm to sell my S, it will be for the device released a year later and not after six months with just marginal improvements.

Having said all of that, this is a very poor strategy from Sony continuing with the crap we had before from Sony Ericsson.

The smartphone game is very different to the feature phone market. It's all about flagship devices and they need to have just one each year. Flooding the market with phones does nothing but confuse their consumers and also they need something that folks can focus on.

Flooding the market does not work.

Apple and Samsung are very successful because their users know what's what.

HTC struggle with sales partly because of the same flooding situation.

Sony it's time to grow up, wake up and smell the coffee.
[Xperia Z General] xerox89:
Obviously samsung is the one who flooding the market with their phone .

Sick of those advance , SL , S plus , SII , S advance Ace 2 , ace + . Even their s2 have G and non G . And the hayabusa have better spec than sIII and better looking .
[Xperia Z General] k1018277:
http://www.gsmarena.com/two_sony_droids_with_lte_going_to_japan_one_has_a_13mp_camera-news-4223.php

GSM Arena says the GX is the Hayabusa and that it will be released in Japan with LTE.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
SHARE YOUR VIEWS NOW, ARE YOU WILLING TO WAIT FOR XPERIA GX (Hayabusa) OR GO FOR XPERIA S !!
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
I'm waiting....
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I have the Xperia S right now, and will be upgrading to the GX whenever it is available :P In my opinion it is better in every aspect, and it looks kickass. A bigger display without making the phone bigger is a plus too. While I like the transparant bar on the Xperia S, it is a gimmick, and I like the even more minimalistic design of the GX.

By the way, the battery capacity is said to be 1700mAh.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I m waiting since april :)

If its available by June, I can wait..
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
They need to think about both software and hardware.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
We just need Perfection, not quad cores..

Xperia GX/Hayabusa looks good, release it globally!!!
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
The question is not IF Sony is gonna release it, but WHEN!!! Sony, hurry up please or I will end up buying the GNEX (again).
[Xperia Z General] Efe64:
Wrong topic dude. Post this on ics topic.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Sorry, but I mainly posted this because of the Album App first seen on the GX
[Xperia Z General] Lucasm93:
I'm going to say again. Saying that something is not needed

now

therefore it's not an advantage is ridiculous and small minded. More power brings more possibilities, that will for sure be used and explored in future (4.1, 4.2) Android versions. The raw power that the new SoCs are delivering brings new possibilities for the software and apps. Dual cores will soon, and are already being put as mid range phones. That's tech, things need and will go forward.

Who needed 1080p in the DVD golden era? BTW, who needs it now?

And we are already seeing some people whinning about 4k tvs as not needed. :rolleyes:

If we are going to "you don't need that", go buy a Nokia of the early 2000's. A phone is made for calling, that's all you really need.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Consumers proves something else, what's the percentage of people buying a phone because it's quad-core/dual-core? Please give me a number, then your argument would definitely be valid.

On a side note, watch out the next few days :D I'm not saying what it's about though...
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
It's going to be June in a few days
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
But doesn't have to be June though right? :D
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
@unknown13

U are teasing :D

Please share some good news for GXi, we are not bothered abt flagship, quad core etc.

We just need GX international version ;)

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[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
There will be no international version if at all of the Japanese phones until September at the very least.

I said it before and I'm sticking to it.

They will launch only the ion in June. They can't launch GX Which is essentially a beefed up ion in June too.

What would that do to ion sales.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
I'm not contradicting you mate, as I said, I haven't said anything on what's coming :D But I wouldn't be so sure about no Japanese phones :D
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
Oooooh does it happen to be 5th of November or around that date :p
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I think only communicAsia 17th June can answer our questions..meanwhile I am gonna try SGS3..I know its ugly but if no issues then I will get it.

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[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Seriously, what sales do you mean? In how many markets is the ION available? AFAIK, just 2 - Hong Kong and Malaysia and maybe USA will follow sometime.

Hmm, I hope they don't announce a global availability of the ION in few days, which would probably cause a delay of the Hayabusa.