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[HTC One X] r0cafella:
Nothing stopping you dropping him a PM Or tweet
[HTC One X] :
It would be good if the person who achieves S-OFF have paypal. Then someone can collect and just pay via paypal.
[HTC One X] more2come:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3uipTO-4A
[HTC One X] artymarty:
Can you please add Australian Dollar to the spreadsheet so I can record my pledge. Cheers.

Marty

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[HTC One X] nikorette:
Arty just throw it in us dollar its pretty much the same
[HTC One X] wph:
Thanks, but have you filled in the spreadsheet? Didn't see your name ;)

Everyone who has the capabilities to do this job is welcome, does he have a One X? I saw your post on the Modaco forums and you said we will have a S-Off One X in weeks. Have you spoken to him or is it just a guess? If you have spoken to him, what did he say?

Also good news, Paul O'Brien is looking into root and S-Off for the One X. Yesterday he tried to achieve root on the Tegra One X without unlocking the bootloader via HTCDev but that didn't work yet. Now he is busy with gaining S-Off on the S4 One X, see his last tweet. Don't know if there are lots of differences in both security systems, but when a guy with his skills is looking into things the situation is hopeful. And according to his own tweets yesterday he thinks how HTC is treating people with unlocked bootloaders who bring their phones in for warranty is unfair, so he might be determined to find a solution :)
[HTC One X] nikorette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63kRUCWstCo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[HTC One X] angusc:
Have now thanx for reminder. :thumbup:

Sent witH desire from OneX
[HTC One X] salada2k:
I'm in for 30 USD (well whatever that is in AUD).

It's a darn good bounty right now!!!!
[HTC One X] artymarty:
Coolies. By the time you read this I will have...

:D

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[HTC One X] K1n0:
I've thrown €10 into the pot, which has pushed the total over $1500. Not bad! Loving this crowd-sourced development push by the way, great idea.
[HTC One X] techmatlock:
Anybody had experience with Paypal limiting account stating multiple emails had account information similar to your account? I'm gonna' call them tomorrow, I've been limited for over 2 years now. If I get that money ($56.92), it's going towards this.
[HTC One X] MattWPBS:
Yeah, I'm in for £10.
[HTC One X] Micropot:
I wish good luck with PayPal you'll need it. In most cases they want you to send some information (data from bank account and so on) and will lift your limitation after that. But it will take some time and a lot of patience from your side. Worked for german customer support of PayPal.
[HTC One X] hefonthefjords:
This paypal thing happened to me before. They will want you to verify your bank account. Takes like three days. Isnt too bad.
[HTC One X] audiavant:
In registration process you need to transfer 5$ to PayPal account from your account as they will send back when registration is finnish. This is to confirm that you are using your real account and to disable fakers. It can take some time as mention over here.
[HTC One X] techmatlock:
Alright, thanks guys I'll try it.
[HTC One X] verynuclear:
I filled the spreadsheet

15$ from me.

Sent from my HOX CyanogenMod 9
[HTC One X] stooci:
Personal idea

The HTC gives us: Eng Hboot for One X

And users will be happy

The HTC should be exemplary in the market

Allow developers to "soar"

just so much on personal taste

: D: D: D

If you like the idea, please push "THANKS" button
[HTC One X] :
That would be the day. I very much doubt that HTC will go that far.
[HTC One X] villadelaniebla:
5 euro for my :)
[HTC One X] SB13X:
Now all we need to do is find a hard up HTC employee who can smuggle said ENG HBOOT out :D
[HTC One X] TeniusGG:
I have an idea!!!!

Maybe we can use this money to buy a White Card!!!

then pick up the file from the card

then everybody can copy the file to a empty sim card!!!

so everyone can be ship s-off
[HTC One X] abc27:
Where do we find a white card? Who do we trust to buy a white card? How do we know it's even possible to clone a white card?
[HTC One X] TeniusGG:
In taobao ,mang shops have a White Card,and I heard it can be cloned.

theoretically，SIM card only have a code ,we just need to pick up it,don't need to crack it

What i don't know is if we need to update the White card file to s-off new HTC device

I just think it also can be a good idea
[HTC One X] angusc:
Yeah but also many vendors on Taobao also claim to be able to S-Off your HOX but in reality they are all bull ****ti.g us all. Someone who really knows their stuff would need to go in to any shop claiming to sell a white card and be able to test it on the spot.

Sent witH desire from OneX
[HTC One X] theliquid:
Just donated 5€ :)
[HTC One X] TeniusGG:
As far as I know,Jiangsu Shanghai Shenzhen is Definitely has a White Card

one x with s-off in the market are all from this place

I don't know the White card can be cut into the Micro card,or there is a new micro White card
[HTC One X] angusc:
So let's tell him about the bounty and see if he can assist.......?

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[HTC One X] TeniusGG:
I don't know who is the expert on the subject and who would I tell

And how well we get on with s-off?
[HTC One X] vrsko:
...

pledged 10 €
[HTC One X] TeniusGG:
Heart Broken!,the ONE X need new White Card to s-off,So if we get it ,maybe we only s-off ONE X
[HTC One X] angusc:
What's the source of that information....

Sent witH desire from OneX
[HTC One X] TeniusGG:
every new HTC device need a new White Card
[HTC One X] buddovit:
What do you mean by EVERY Htc device will need a NEW white card?

Sorry if it's a stupid question :)
[HTC One X] TeniusGG:
the old white card may not s-off new device

A white card cannot s-off all device

I guess white card need to update when there is a new device
[HTC One X] pdagenius:
It would seem that over in the S off discussion thread at least one talented person has been put off the idea of contributing because of the bounty.

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[HTC One X] Fightspit:
What this useless thread make me thinking...
[HTC One X] wtfhax:
I guess when people are caught in the moment to get s-off never would have thought of the consequences. There's good and bad in this and maybe some developers do not see it the way others do to achieve s-off like some does which also make sense if some great developers would break s-off faster motivated by the bounty.

Personally i do not support the bounty but it still make sense to me. :)
[HTC One X] ste1164:
Id also recommend closing/removing this thread as its doing more harm to development than good.
[HTC One X] n1kon:
Yeah kill it. The thought was good but its causing more harm than good.
[HTC One X] Setsuna666:
This bounty is really not necessary and should be closed. I assume most developers here are doing it for various reasons other than money (fun, knowledge, sharing). We don't need this to divide the community.
[HTC One X] artymarty:
Ok. I now agree. Kill it.

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[HTC One X] techmatlock:
Damn, this thread just ruined our chances of having an experienced exploiter or dev help us. I was new to this community and had no familiarity with what this is all about. Naturally I was excited to see a big donation, but saw what it did to s-off thread.

Not what open source is about and everyone got quiet in the main s-off thread. Not sure if there's any chance people will help after this thread is hopefully deleted. :mad:
[HTC One X] nikorette:
Lol too late now. You can't close it and remove the bounty. Those that are not releasing information or progress obviously want the cash. What makes you think if you close the thread they will all of a sudden give it all out. You close this thread its bye bye S-OFF for quite some time ^.^
[HTC One X] edge3uk:
Nonsense. it's not goodbye s-off at all. I really hate this money driven way of doing things. its a hobby to everyone and it's awesome to see the community work together. collapse this thread, there will still be a community. s-off will come the right way. probably sooner than later.
[HTC One X] nikorette:
I never said for ever I said for some time. What makes you think those people who were working for a bounty will release all the info after the bounty is gone.. If it was me I'd do the complete opposite. If you were working hard for a sum of money then the money was removed would you sit and think "well now there's no cash involved ill just tell everyone what I've been spending so much time and effort on" Instead is be saying screw you guys your not getting anything. I am certain those that were working for the money in the first place have the same mind set.
[HTC One X] MySam:
OT maybe, but Is this the first time that a bounty has been set/offered for S-Off/Root on XDA?:confused:

personally I find it's wide open for abuse/divides the community(intentionally?)/attracts trolls&assholes and imo in a years time S-Off/Root will be a simple GUI with a one click action /rant off.
[HTC One X] artymarty:
I think the main thing is to keep getting S-Off as quick as possible on all HTC devices. Then the 'internet' can go to them and say... (and I just fleshed this out as I am going to paste it on all the HTC sites.)

* You put S-On phones and annoy the heck out of your users = FAIL

* Carriers ask you to do it, but the hacking community keep removing it anyway = FAIL

* The head of your company Peter Chou said that you would not lock phones any more, yet you still do, so your and his credibility trust and honour is massively damaged (actually destroyed) = FAIL

Stop it now... Ship your phones S-Off & Unlocked. Your users will love you, Peter Chou gets reputation back...

The only point above that is not covered if you ship unlocked phones is the carriers. In response to that - The Samsung Galaxy III has been cracked and rooted BEFORE its release. Do you seriously think the carriers will refuse to sell it now? Of course not!!! The carriers will still think Samsung is their Golden child.

Samsung does not care that their phone was cracked. All the phone enthusiasts will move to Samsung instead of waiting for the HTC One X or your future phones to be cracked and rooted.

The One X will be the last in a LONG line of HTC purchases I have made if I don't get full access to my phone that I paid for in full and OWN soon.

I will probably switch to Samsung. Samsung's build quality and finish on their phones is horrible compared to HTC, but at least I can have full control over the phone I own.

HTC used to be the ONE to look up to in the phone market. How the mighty have fallen (along with their shares). Have you given up? or do you want to get back in the game?

HTC, by shipping S-Off, unlocked phones you AND your users benefit.

You can rectify the situation in a day.

Release all your new phones S-off and tell the carriers "Sorry, that's just how it is" (hint: They will still sell them!)

The ones that have not been unlocked by the hacking community yet, and you unfortunately have existing agreements with the carriers that they are locked, - just leave some anonymous hints on the XDA.developers forums to speed the process up.

It is a SIMPLE problem to solve.

It is simple to save face and get your honour and reputation back.

Sincerely, Marty
[HTC One X] n1kon:
I don't agree with shipping devices with s-off coz that's just asking for trouble but the htcdev unlock should fully s-off as you lose your warranty anyway.
[HTC One X] H-Cim:
Indeed, they should make your warrenty void if you S-OFF your device. You really have access to everything, it would be unfair to demand that HTC fixes all the stuff you screw up by abusing your device (by changing radio's which don't match your device for example).
[HTC One X] wtfhax:
As a user i look at the spec and not s-on or s-off rooted or not. Look at it this way, if they don't provide warranties on any of their device they may ship s-off device for both side's benefits. As long as they are still providing warranties, they have to protect themselves from customer exploiting their warranty.
[HTC One X] BeciMester:
Well, don't ship them s-off but provide a method to do it at home. I don't mind if it goes the HTCDev way, so we have to register and forfeit our warranty if we opt for s-off -- I'd be willing to. And 99% of the customers won't ever bother with unlocking their phones anyway.
[HTC One X] otakonx:
Well said on both rants. I whole heartily agree.
[HTC One X] demajoor:
Just give the dev who will figure out a safe wat to s-off the One X the money its should be an extra drive to get it working
[HTC One X] Kickasskev:
Well in my opinion, if any devs want to help but arnt inspired by the money they should give it to charity. The money is there now it isn't going to go away.
[HTC One X] :
Pull it. Anyone who's going to get petulant and cry like a girl that life isn't fair needs to be taken out side and given a good hard kick in the chuff. The money isn't tangible, it's only some words on a forum at this stage. Without a contract it's just vapour. You can't lose what you never had.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
I think the initiative is good, it's an extra motivation to the Developer who accomplishes it.

You are not forced to pay and if people like to sponsor why all the hazzle about it then?

It's not your money you are talking about isn't?

Haha.. LM S-Off, look at this thread. :D;)

+1 I agree. :)
[HTC One X] :
It isn't and it's not. In fact, as recent events have demonstrated, the reality is quite the opposite.

Whilst it's true to say that no one is forced to pay financially, when choices made have consequences which negatively impact the progress of this endeavour all of us hoping for a solution do pay a price.

And everything that has value or that means anything in this life is worth a damn sight more than money whether it's yours, mine or anyone else's.

That's the reality. Deal with it.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
I still disagree with you because a developer spends a lot of time investigating in trial and effort.

He even has a change to brick his device, so I think raising money to stimulate him even more isn't that bad.

It's great someone does that in his free time and when he finds out, the whole community benefits!

I think we should be very thankfull and not putting all this BS in a thread that's opened for a good goal.

Just let it go and see what happens, like I said it's not your money.

And I can decide myself what to deal with, I'm just posting my opinion.
[HTC One X] BenPope:
OK.

Which *is* unfair on HTC, but irrelevant to your bricking argument.

And do you know why? Let me tell you; it is because there is software on the phone, that allows you to access recovery options, and that software is protected by S-On.

How many posts in ROM threads read like this: "When I don't follow the instructions it doesn't work, and now my phone is broken, please help me?" 1 in 20? 1 in 10?

What do you think will happen when they get S-Off, wipe that partition, and reboot?

Using the recovery that is protected by S-On.

Which in some cases does seem unfair.

Now I call bull****. Why is htcdev solution not good enough?

Wait a second, The htcdev solution allows us to flash ROMs, without the requirement for S-Off. I think you just did what is called "shot in foot", you've just invalidated your entire argument with a contradictory statement.

Essentially this whole S-Off argument is about fooling HTC for warranty purposes. Whether or not HTC are being fair is another argument. The rest is bull****.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
@BenPope,

Why is it so important to bring up this discussion everytime?

It's Of-topic as this thread is for raising money for S-Off isn't?

It's not a thread about wether you like it or not, or wether it's good or bad. :confused:
[HTC One X] artymarty:
Simple... Can't flash a radio, can't flash a kernel... So not shot in the foot at all... The 3D graphics bug was fixed in a custom kernel and that was included with roms to automatically flash...

I see you avoided my gps fault argument too...

Anyway.... Enough of this... If you don't want s-off, don't flash it when it's available...

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[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Donated € 15. :)
[HTC One X] wph:
Thanks for the support.

I have followed the thread the last days but decided not to reply till now. The reason is that I received a PM from what I consider some random user who thinks he has the authority to order me to remove the whole thread. This is still a forum and everyone has his own opinion. Part of that proces is that you also can accept different ones even if you completely disagree.

The initiative for this thread came from the S-Off discussion thread, where now the same people who first supported this, now turned 360 degrees. The reason seems to be 1 developer who is against this and has gone away. Although I'm sorry to hear that, you never can please everybody. Did you expect S-Off was found in a few days? And if not, this initiative is the reason to blame? Maybe some people disagreewith this bounty, but if tomorrow or next week S-Off is found by a developer who says he bought a One X because he knew he could earn it back by finding a exploit, then the same people who disagreed come back here to cheer the bounty.

Like I said, it can take some time to get S-Off, for the HTC Desire it took almost a year. For other devices the security isn't cracked for even longer or never will be. The Tegra 3 is still a fairly new device and groups who have worked on other devices with Qualcomm SoC's don't work on Tegra 3 devices, so it can take some time, if it's ever found.

For now I leave this thread the way it is. If the admins or mods order me to change it, then I will change it. But opinions differ, which seems hard to accept for some. If a developer doesn't want the money and is against these bounty threads he or she can make a statement and give it to a charity of choice. Nobody can be against that, isn't it ;)
[HTC One X] Htc_One_X:
Amen.
[HTC One X] techmatlock:
I disagree with what you said near the end about how they can donate to charity. It wasn't what we were trying to get the point across about - it's about people not working together to find an s-off exploit. With the bounty being close to $2000, people are going to try and research on their own which takes way longer. Also that's why the one dev left because there was a lot of missing work that was not being worked on.
[HTC One X] angusc:
Not being shared i think, rather than not being worked on.

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[HTC One X] techmatlock:
Yes, thanks for correcting me.
[HTC One X] BenPope:
You can flash Kernel with htcdev unlock. So about the only thing left is radio, isn't it?

I didn't understand what adjustments you wanted to make to fix GPS that couldn't be done with kernel or Rom or even just root.

I understand my comments aren't popular, but the point is, I've seen very few convincing arguments for S Off.

So far we have flash Radio, flash a Rom without a PC, and to fool HTC for warranty purposes. If you want to approach HTC for S Off, you'll have to have a good reason.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Yes that's right, thanks. :)
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
You always have people who only think about themselve that's right indeed.

But you also have people who are a little smarter and think lets develop and split the bounty.
[HTC One X] xchasa:
Use the $1800 to bribe a htc employee.
[HTC One X] otakonx:
I can't speak for anyone else here but flashing a ROM without a PC is enough for me to wait patiently for S-OFF. Connecting my phone to a PC(MAC) reminds me way too much of my past iPhones when I jailbroke them. Not a good reminder.

Personally, I don't think anyone here has to convince anyone of anything, everyone is entitle to their opinion. The people in this thread and other S-OFF threads are either supporters of the idea, people trolling or off topic.

Not sure this is actually said enough but devs working on this, thank you for your time and effort regardless of outcome.
[HTC One X] WiZARD7:
I would be very happy, if I could send the money to someone finally :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A1exey:
Hello, everu body ,

what do you do to keep your battery to be used more...

i have a defy offcurse....
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Иereus:
Switch to 2g signal(no data), set screen brightness to low, turn off wifi, don't run unnecessary apps and set screen off(sleep) at 15 seconds. I hope this helps answer your question :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sainyam:
try juice defender and installl cm7 latest nightly..
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kelbygreen:
juice defender I get 3 days out of mine. Well as long as I dont play around with it heaps lol
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defydent:
You can also install custom roms known to have good battery management... i use walter79's ms2ginger based rom and its gives 2 days with moderate to heavy usage (I play games for a total of around an hour or so daily :o)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A1exey:
i have a custom rom,

but i don't understand how to use correctly this juice :D....

and threads on forum about it ?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kelbygreen:
I installed the latest CM7.2 from quartx and I get heaps good battery life. I installed V6 supercharger and Setvsel

I didnt change anything in setvsel but I think my settings from changing them in recovery are still there.

It says I am running

30 @ 300

44 @ 600

53 @ 800

58 @ 1000

Now I use setvsel to limit vsel 1 when screen is off and apply sd speed fix.

I dont use Juice defender, I put the power control widget on the main screen and turn everything off (except the 3g) I could add the switch to run 2G only but dont bother. Set the brightness to auto but could set it to Dim or 25% till you need it.

going by battery monitor I have 4d and 13h left on my battery, So I am happy with that!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arpith.fbi:
AVOID using mobile data...if possible use wi-fi to access net...and even if u use mobile data just make sure u turn if off whenever not required..

switch to 2G if 3G is not necessory..

to be frank undervolting wont work save much battery...but still recommended..

switch off GPS and other stuffs whenever not required..

and make sure ur phone is sleeping nicely :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Christiancs1969:
Lux auto bright app makes huge difference

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[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bé Yêu:
I using Juice Defender Ultimate
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kelbygreen:
I find the power control panel on the main screen is alot easier and does everything juicedefender does AFAIK. Just turn on what you need when you need it. Then just turn it off when your finished.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mja711:
i Agree with kelbygreen .....

most of that stuff can be done mannually and would give u much more control....

but i do almost all that has been said here and still do not get more than 24hrs ...

how do u guys manage to get four days????

please tell me ....

---------- Post added at 02:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:48 PM ----------

u really get 4 days????

I am on WIUI and supercharged with SetvSel....

I get a max of 24hrs... that also when i am careful not to use too much of 2G and keep brightness etc at the most optimum for better Battery perfomance...

Please help :)

Thx in advance :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kelbygreen:
Well I have a defy+ so got 1700mh battery and I doubt I get 4 days (just what battery widget says) I would get 2-3 but I am still setting up this phone so are using it prob 2-3 hrs a night so that drains it as I have wifi and network on and the screens almost always on.

It depends how you use it. I have set mine up now so I may use it to call between 5mins to a hour or so a day and dont really play games so it will last me a while. But as I just put this ROM on and setting and moding things then it uses it up. I been on the phone for about 1.5hrs and playing with the phone prob 3hrs total in the last 28hrs and its down to 48%