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[Xperia Z General] sirbrian:
Can't wait any longer...

The Xperia Ion and Acro S are launched today in my county. All the carriers and Sony themselves have begun selling.

I don't think i can wait for the GX any longer. OR should I.

Which sould I get? Some recommendaitons pls, thanks.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
The James Bond phone is definitely going to be introduced on the 29 of august, whether that it’s the Xperia GX (Hayabusa, LT29i) or the Xperia T (Mint, LT30p) or the unknown rumored Xperia Z I don’t know. But what I do know is that the past two movies had Sony Ericsson phones in them that where introduced before the movie came out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_K800i

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381061/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_Ericsson_products#C902

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830515/
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
The mint is going to be the phone in the next James Bond movie.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Ah thanks, so no Xperia Z?
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
xperia z has been purely rumor without a single trace of proof. don't expect too much at this time.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Also, u13x said this, 2 different messages, what to believe? Spectre vs u13x :P

And this:
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
don't think we have a conflict even if both of them are from the same location (are they?).

mint and hayabusa are all code names where as Z S GX will be/are actual product names known in the market. there are more devices with code names not yet revealed to the general public. matchmaking names and play guess game without sufficient information is going to surprise you.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Xperia T is LT30, already confirmed
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Spectre always had accurate info in the past. I think that u13x comment was more based on a personal opinion and him not liking how the phone looks.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
That was also my understanding of u13x comment. He didn't like the look of Mint and there for it doesn't deserve to be a James Bond phone. Because of Hayabusa being more elegant it would have fit more to Bond than Mint.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
My info came direct from my source at Sony that deals with the US Xperia market. It's good info. The mint is the bond phone.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Yes, I do not know what's going to be in the movie. I was just basing it off my opinion of a bond needing to have the most elegant one. Then again, the new bond is blowing stuff up and wrecking places, I guess they want something more rugged :D

You guys won't be missing too much for getting either Mint or Hayabusa from next year as it won't deviate too much from both of them.

What I would like to see is the slimmer version of Acro S :D Saw someone here did a concept on it, and I fell in love. Who knows, may be Sony can grant me my wish?
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
I really liked the idea of illumination bar in early Xperia models : s, p, sola. I thought Sony will keep on to that new innovation in their upcoming models.

I can't figure out why they ignored the idea of enhancing and improving the illumination bar and perhaps re-design it differently !
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
What about battery capacity? Should we expect an 1700ish batteries on both mint and hayabusa?
[Xperia Z General] M_247:
Have xperia p and love it...

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[Xperia Z General] sirbrian:
I just came back from the Main Sony store in Singapore. Had a feel of both the Ion and Acro S. Told the sale rep that I was thinking of waiting for the GX/Hayabusa. But he told me not to wait as there is no plan for it to be avail in Singapore till early next year. So it looks like the Ion or at least the Acro S is the new flagship model of 2nd half of 2012.

Now I am in a real big dilemma, which to get for my contract renewal next week? Any suggestion?
[Xperia Z General] huntedsoul:
If I were you, and have just these two phone to choose from then I would definitely go for Arco S ;)
[Xperia Z General] zangetsu2188:
That's because they need to sell the phones that are currently available. As Hayabusa and Mint are not offical yet, they will convince you to buy the current ones.

And if those phones make an appearance at IFA and arrive in your country early next year, it will be useless IMO as most people will just wait for the next wave of phones at CES and MWC 2013.

Get the acro s if you don't mind those flaps.

Out of topic: What's the included package of acro s there in Singapore? Does it have the cradle for charging? Thanks! :D
[Xperia Z General] sirbrian:
Thanks for the advice.

The desktop charger is included in the Acro S package. I thought this is common? Anyway the sales rep sys that they do not sell additional desktop charger.

The Ion dock is avail and sold seperately and is not in the package.

I am comparing both of the screen size and the Ion 4.6" is really a plus point especially when comparing beside a SGSIII or even a OneX.

But when it come down to day to day charging, both phones need to open a flappy to access the micro usb. BUT the Acro S has the additional charging access with the destop charger. BUT to listen to music everday with a 3.5mm jack will be a pain in the a** with the Acro S.:eek:Thats my dilemma...Or should I just hold on till the upcoming IFA for the announcement and hear see if the GX is coming?
[Xperia Z General] zangetsu2188:
I see. Is the ION LT28i or LT28h there? Here in our country, they recently released the LT28i which has Gingerbread software. Acro S is not yet available, that's why I asked if there is a cradle or not.

One way I see to solve that flap problem with regard to music listening is to buy the ageing SE MW600, yes it's an old bluetooth accessory but I think it still has its worth. ;)

As your contract renewal is coming, you can spend to wait a month assuming those phones will be available immediately. But I won't bet it, just look at the lead time of Xperia S (from announcement last January and availability last late February / early March) :)
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
two months isn't too far off if there weren't tint issue
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
I'm tempted by an Acro S, for me the fact it's water resistant would be a bigger plus than the fact there is a flap.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Do you know when it will be available from AT&T ?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
October/November timeframe.
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
What about international release of hayabusa and mint? I am guessing the mint will not be sold unlocked on sonystyle since it will be available with AT&T?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
That I don't know. My contact deals with the US market and doesn't have the international details. I'll check about being sold unlocked but I agree. Probably won't be available in the US unlocked.

Sent from my LT28at
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
if people want unlock without warranty
[Xperia Z General] karun11:
So you mean the devices to come wont differ much from Hayabusa & Mint? Are you talking about the design element? It'll be great if they keep in line with the Hayabusa's beautiful design, with update internals as expected from a device launched in 2013.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
I also want to know this, because I'm not sure if I want to buy the Mint or wait for 2013 devices, but if you say it doesn't differ that much in specs and design I'll buy the Mint.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I guess the main difference in specs of H1 2013 flagship devices will be 2 additional cores (S4 Quad) and 1GB more RAM. Resolution for 4.X inch devices will stay at 720p.

Maybe there will be a Xperia "Phablet" with 1080p screen just like HTC's rumored Q4/2012 device. And I also wouldn't be surprised to see a Cyber-Shot branded Xperia with a Xenon flash at some point in H2 2013.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Hi Guys,

OFF-TOPIC, anyone here using Xperia ION?

Any known flaws in ION?

ION is available now in Singapore, how would you rate ION as compared to Xperia S?
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
God I hope you're right! That would be some treat :fingers-crossed:

Cheers,

Miki
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
Ion is a good phone, but Xperia S is better. Ion has better build quality but less development and is arguably worse looking from the front. Also it is a bit large for my tastes. I checked it out at the ATT store. The are essentially the same hardware wise.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
I have both and I like the ion better. Bigger and better looking screen. Plus LTE and micro SD card support. The build quality of the ion is better. Feels much more solid. Everything else is pretty much the same.

Sent from my LT28at
[Xperia Z General] sirbrian:
Are you getting the Ion or Acro S? I can't decide on my end what to get...
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I have Xperia S, got my hands on Xperia ION, its almost same as my XS so I decided to stay with XS only !!!

Still waiting for GX..
[Xperia Z General] Tejstar:
Some more live photos of the Sony Xperia T (LT30p) have surfaced:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/08/07/more-live-photos-of-the-sony-xperia-t-lt30p/
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Even more at the source:

http://www.nixanbal.com/ексклузивно-35-снимки-на-sony-lt30p-mint-вероятно-xperia-t

hell yeah
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Sony, you can do better than this design... Hope next year's design are like the GX one. But I will only trade my phone around late next year, so I have time :P
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
It looks a lot thicker than 9mm suggested by the leak a few weeks ago.
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
that was my impression too, unless those images don't do justice. Still, as much as I like sealed battery, rubberized back... somehow I like GX design better, like some of you said - more elegant.

I was wondering: if they introduce both devices (Mint and GX) at IFA, what would be their differentiation? Like, what would be competitive edge one over another..... Maybe we'll see just Mint....

Cheers,

Miki
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
I think it is just an illusion. The headphone socket width is 3.5mm, so by looking at the image of top of the phone it could well be 9mm thick.

Something what kind of bothers me is that teeeeeeny Sony logo on the top, squeezed between speaker opening and the display. It think it would look better if it were displaced to the right or left.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I have the bad feeling that Sony will just announce Mint at IFA, because of GX/Hayabusa not being meant for European markets.
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
I know that people tastes are different but I think Sony should do much better with design. Gx/hayabousa/mint is the least attractive design this year !
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
We'll know in a few days, but I guess you were right all along. Maybe GX "international" version is meant for some other regions but Europe.

It does look crammed..

Cheers,

Miki
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
they should've replace XPERIA at the bottom with SONY and leave top clean. XPERIA is already there at the back with a green sphere.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Just a quick heads-up for those living in Japan: The GX is now officially available at NTT DoCoMo.

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_gx_lands_on_store_shelves_in_japan-news-4631.php
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Whats the price of Xperia GX in Japan?

In USD..

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[Xperia Z General] zymo:
If Google Translate isn't wrong then the off-contract price of GX in Japan (incl. taxes) is ¥ 75.390 = € 781,11 = $ 960,70

Quite hefty price!
[Xperia Z General] waynekirby:
:eek: that's a silly price. Got a UK sum only 1 month rolling plan with 3 till release of something I fancy

Contemplating Meizu MX quad core...
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
And here is the first unboxing video of the Xperia GX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtPIUh_8AP8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Wohhhhh $960 !!!!

And after 3 mnths it will be available at around 600 for sure..

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[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
Indeed. But it could be just a local market anomaly, for example according to the "internets" off contract retail price for Samsung S3 is ¥71,376

Maybe just noone buys their phones off contract there and those prices have no real meaning.

Of course, skyrocketting ¥ does not help too, for more expensive goods manufacturers tend to stick to the "usual" prices so long as they can.
[Xperia Z General] Tejstar:
New Sony LT25 ‘Tsubasa’ will be a global phone

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/08/09/new-sony-lt25-tsubasa-will-be-a-global-phone/
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
This could be the mystery device u13X mentioned a while back. It is kind of strange that Sony will release 3 phones with almost identical specs in Q4.

Base on XperiaBlog the phone will have the following specs.

The Sony LT25i recently popped up in a couple of benchmarks. NenaMark2 shows that the handset will have a 720 x 1280 resolution and the fact that the benchmark shows the resolution as 720 x 1196 points to virtual buttons being used. It also highlights the Adreno 225 GPU which most likely means it will run the Qualcomm S4 Snapdragon MSM8960 chipset (1.5GHz dual-core). This is pretty much confirmed by AnTuTu which displays the clock speed as 1.5GHz. Perhaps we will see Tsubasa make an appearance at the end of this month at IFA 2012. Not too long to wait to find out.

Will it have a 4.3" screen? Or could this be the international version of the SX?
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
but why LT "25" below xperia s and acro s ? it's using the s4 processor...
[Xperia Z General] king-james:
Xperia Nexus?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I guess it will be smaller than XS and beside the CPU other specs will be downgraded. For example it could "only" have a 8MP camera and just 8GB internal storage.

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An Xperia Nexus?! No, not in this century! :p
[Xperia Z General] TenkaTsai:
See what I said a month ago?

I already told you...
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Woow nice tenka!
[Xperia Z General] Maximus999:
So just to sum everything up in one post, what Sony are set to launch for Q4:

LT25i - 4.3" Hayabusa mini, Krait

LT30i - 4.6" Mint, flagship device, Krait

LT29i - 4.6" Japan only, Krait

MT27i - 4.0" Xperia J, low end, Scorpion

Xperia SX - 3.7" Japan only, possible Xperia ray replacement, Krait

LT26ii - 4.3" Xperia SL, Scorpion

Xperia tablet - Tegra 3, $50 cheaper than iPad 3, no full HD screen.

Add in all of the current devices and you have one seriously confusing line up.

To me the Xperia J looks like a completely pointless device and there is no successor the Mini-Pro which was a pretty successful device. They should ****can the Xperia SL as well and just replace it outright with the Krait based LT25i. It makes no sense to have two 4.3" devices as one (Xperia SL) will have to be much cheaper than the other and Sony should be moving away from low margin devices. That's also why Xperia J is pointless, it's better to make the Xperia P more competitive which is already in the same bracket.

The tablet looks great though and I think if it had a full HD screen it could easily become the best selling non-Nexus Android tablet, especially now that app makers have started targeting Android tablets for dedicated apps so the ecosystem has begun to grow.
[Xperia Z General] king-james:
I must agree to you Maximus! Xperia J is just ****, Xperia SL also... They must make SX global! Looks very attractive and has a nice size...

But why you say LT25i is a mini version of hayabusa? From where do you know that? And can we except LT25i at IFA?
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
So, there will be no GX International version after all (specifically in Europe)?

Cheers,

Miki
[Xperia Z General] EmoX10:
Maybe Xperia LT25i is international version of Xperia SX?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
LT25i uses the same sock as Hayabusa and will also have the same resolution and even on-screen buttons. And since its model-number is LT25 (GX being LT29) it's well to assume that it will have a smaller display. But it remains to be seen if LT25i will look like Hayabusa.

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According to "randomuser" over at esato forum it won't. LT25i has 4,3 HD screen which uses a new panel. It will be the fist Xperia to use this better display.
[Xperia Z General] Maximus999:
Just to underline the popularity of Sony's H2 flagship devices, XperiaBlog is reporting that the first shipment of Xperia GX and SX has sold out completely.

Tell me again, why are these not out in Europe and the US?!?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
It looks like that. This must be the "bad news" Rubenos was talking about some time ago. I assume major European markets like UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, Netherlands...will get Mint, Asia and some other European countries will instead get Hayabusa.
[Xperia Z General] king-james:
Wow, great info! The LT25i sounds very interesting for me now! I will call it Arc II. Hope they will announce it at IFA!
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
First wave of NXT phones aren't selling well in Europe. I assume that Sony first wanted to sell those stocks, before releasing a completely new line-up.
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
I suspect Qualcomm simply just can't keep with demand. No chips - no phones.
[Xperia Z General] lokenok:
Lt29i iz xperia gx... for global... so -o4d docomo is for japan gx
[Xperia Z General] Maximus999:
I've heard the opposite, that the S, P and U have been doing gangbusters in western Europe, but the S has slowed down significantly since the Galaxy S3 released. It would have been the perfect time to launch Xperia GX here as Sony would have been able to go toe-to-toe with Samsung rather than have to slash prices on the S to compete.
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
But Xperia J could potentially bring much better margins, as Scorpion chips should be dirt cheap now and the rest is also much cheaper to manufacture.

Xperia P could be cheap in retail, but I doubt Sony earns much with it.

But it does not have a full HD screen. Which makes the whole android tablet situation kind of crazy.

Manufacturers complain about poor sales but at the same time refuse to offer anything even remotely competitive to an ipad.

Want a good looking tablet with decent (HD) display and 3G? Well, tough look, your only option is an ipad. Asus TF700 is wifi only and TF300 has 3G but does not have HD screen. Others have no tablets with HD displays at all.

Hopefully Acer Iconia A701 will come out soon with 3G, but until then there is simply nothing in the market.
[Xperia Z General] thejosetree:
Better display? Maybe OLED? Sounds interesting...
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
OLED? :) I would not necessary call it better :)

Most probably just a larger version of "white magic".
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
I'm very curious about this LT25i, I hope it's a small version of the LT29i, but I doubt that it has an 13MP camera. I really hope so, because it would be my next phone! What do you guys think?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Nope. According "randomuser" OLED Displays won't hit Sony before H2 2013! H1 2013 line up will have the same display as LT25i.

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Think of a bigger Xperia SX with HD display, that would be my guess. So no stacked CMOS sensor for ST25.
[Xperia Z General] dSayonarab:
Fine by me, as far as I'm concerned OLED still has a fair bit to go before it can match regular LCD in color accuracy. I can see Sony going IPS, but I doubt they will make an AMOLED-touting phone for a while yet.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia GX and Xperia SX already sold out; next shipments in September !!!
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Yes, we already know that. It was mentioned in earlier post :p
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
oooooppppssss, sry :)
[Xperia Z General] king-james:
SX Unboxing

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/08/10/xperia-sx-unboxing-sized-up-against-the-xperia-gx/

Looks damn sexy!!!
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/08/10/xperia-gx-sample-pictures-from-final-retail-unit/

Sample images are nowhere near those photos we've seen few days ago via ePrice.

Cheers,

Miki
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
What I will never understand: what is the point of those 13 megapixels?

Even photos made in bright daylight exhibit horrible noise levels. Even after brutal postprocessing turning smaller details like tree leaves into some minced green plastic. And this is supposed to be a better camera? Or just to look better in specs the rest be damned?
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
You realize that u can lower the camera megapixel to either 2, 4, 6 or 8?
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
I think he meant we don't need the 13 Mp sensor, not the resolution on the camera app.

And I disagree with him. Sony just need to fix the high compression and it should be done.

Sent from my LT26i with Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Based on rumors the LT25i will use the in-cell-touch-panel.

That would be the same panel as on the upcoming iPhone.

If that is true than this is going to be the best Sony phone for Q4 if it comes with a decent camera and a good battery.

New Sony Xperia LT25i / Tsubasa Android Smartphone With In-Cell Touchscreen, 1.5GHz Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 Krait CPU, Adreno 225 GPU And Global Phone Capability Features Is Coming
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
This is what Randomuser from esato said

We have seen/heard about it already.....?? but not on Sony phone yet, so its definitely not White Magic... whats else do we know about?? O.o?

Crystal LED display?? :D too good to be true XD
[Xperia Z General] tkymgr:
Xperia GX System dump

SO-04D_7.0.D.1.117.system.zip.001

SO-04D_7.0.D.1.117.system.zip.002

SO-04D_7.0.D.1.117.system.zip.003

SO-04D_7.0.D.1.117.system.zip.004

SO-04D_7.0.D.1.117.system.zip.005
[Xperia Z General] :
Sony / Japan Mobile Display SLCD2

Credits to randomuser.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
yeah, i just checked esato =.=

is it the same screen as HTC One X??
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
You can't. It is a physical property of the camera sensor. You can set your camera app to downsample the image to less megapixels, but you will still get much worse results as you would get from sensor with less/bigger pixels (produced using the same technology).

To me it does not look like compression set too high, it would produce very different artefacts from those seen in the pics. What I see is an evidece of software noise reduction hard at work. Which is by the way nothing else than "intelligent" selective downsampling. Too bad you can't reliably distinguish between noise and legitimate details. Thus many details will be lost as collateral. This turns those tree branches and leaves into "minced plastic". And big amounts of that "drizzle" are still there.

So, the value of those 13mpx is very questionable. I personally would not want to look at (or show someone) those pictures at their native resolution. What I see there is nothing but washed out details and digital "drizzle". It gets somehow presentable only when I downscale it to 50% which is only slightly more than 3mpx by the way. And the noise is still very apparent. So why bother, what is the use of all those tens of millions of pixels?
[Xperia Z General] Vasishta Reddy:
They are corrupted :(
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
This is from randomuser:
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Yeah hes right, this year portfolio is a mess, its hard for us to know which one is the real flagship....

But I will buy the Hayabusa if its look like the GX, its good enough for me to wait for the 2H 2013 devices :D
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Unknown13x and other insiders

Can anyone please confirm about international release of Xperia GX, I want to change my XS..
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
unnecessarily extra pixels consumes more storage space -> bigger SD card or internal storage?
[Xperia Z General] EmoX10:
According to xperiablog, probably Xperia GX international version is Xperia TX.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia T = Xperia TX = LT29i = Hayabusa

M i correct !! :confused:

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