yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I think that in terms of thickness the Xperia S has hit the sweet spot. I've tried the Galaxy S2 for example and always found it too thin to feel sturdy. The Arc was okay, but I prefer the Xperia S. Feels really solid too. The curved back and 'thin' sides make it look very slim anyway.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Sorry, its LT30at, but there is LT29a. LT30 is the Mint, LT29 is the Hayabusa. Believe me? :rolleyes:

and no, the 1 and 2 number after the letters aren't year related. They're "generations". Doesn't mean that they can't go from LT20 to LT30 within a year.
[Xperia Z General] Xeon:
You mean specs like Samsung and hardware like Nokia.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Interesting, so Mint will be the "next" generation. I assume that besides the LTE radio and Aluminium casing Mint will also have (slightly) better hardware than Hayabusa.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Barely. The only downside for Mint is no removable batteries, though it does come with 1850. Hayabusa would be the same with the GX, with removable batteries.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
LT30at will be an AT&T phone? I hope that Sony canceled the LT28at since it will have a hard time competing against the GS3 iPhone5 and One X.

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I do not think that it is a downside. I get two days of use out of my XS with a smaller battery but no LTE. The Mint will have slightly lager battery and LTE but the S4 is more power efficient.

It should do well with the 1850 battery in my opinion at least.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Have you tried out the GX. How do you know it fixes any problems?
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
I believe you when I see it ;). You're saying that before the end of 2012 there is gonna be phone called LT30at right? So what if you're wrong :P? And why hasn't this occured earlier with the numbers?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Well on the other hand they have only been doing the numbering business for two years now, and the 'generation' idea does make sense. With the 0 at the end I think the LT30at is really just the AT&T-exclusive refresh of the ion (which is or isn't planned anymore, unsure?).
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Samsung cancelled the skyrocket hd lte for AT&T Sony should dp the same with the ION.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
My main point was there will be LT30, and it still stands. Whether there's LT30at in the end (which all decisions are upon AT&T), that only god knows :p Of course there's going to be LT30i, so that's out the question too.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I do wonder what the difference would be then. If the 3 actually stands for the next generation, and not just because they ran out of numbers in the LT2x-range I wonder what the 'next generation' would be like.

If it's release would still be in 2012 we'd have the following LT (large touch) lineup:

Xperia P (LT22)

Xperia S (LT26)

Xperia ion (LT28)

Xperia GX international (LT29)

Xperia ? (LT30)

Five large touch devices, of which four quite high-end in one year (and that is even excluding Japan-only devices)? Weird.

Unless (and I only just thought of this) ... it is the rumoured Nexus?

There are rumours that Google is talking with 5 manufacturers to release several different Nexus devices. It could also make sense with the generations, and the planning could be correct too. Around the fall = around the Android 5 release?

As far as I know it has been on the roadmap for quite a long time now, so it might not be, but it always could, no?
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
A Xperia Nexus phone, now that is something I would love to own! :D
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Judging from the comments on Engadget and The Verge the last few months, an Xperia Nexus is something _everyone_ would love to own :P
[Xperia Z General] richteralan:
I would guess the Mint can be a Nexus.

By looking at its release date its quite close to the previous 2 Nexus phones.

Also quite close to Jelly Bean date.
[Xperia Z General] Hayden18:
The z is waterproof upto 3 feet for 30 minutes
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that. Water and dust resistance ip57. Nice.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Also, the Z is the 4G LTE version, whereas the Z (L)ite :P isn't.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Release Dates ???

Thus far, we’ve seen a few specific dates emerge though Sony has yet to confirm any.

One retailer in Poland claims that February 18th will be the date that the Xperia Z hits shelves.

Two retailers in the UK claim two separate months for the Xperia Z.

One, Phones4U, says it will offer the device starting on March 1st.

Another, Carphone Warehouse, says that the device will arrive at some point in February.

Source: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/01/10/sony-xperia-z-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-rumored/
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
CPW systems say 22nd Feb
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
Really looking forward to the xperia z coming to the US
[Xperia Z General] ThilinaC:
That's not a problem since basically here no operator gives phones contracted(means can be unlocked boot loader) but the problem is if someone use official developer world method to unlock the boot loader then their hardware warranty will be void :/ I am pretty sure it will cost around at least 800$ here and I really don't like to loose my warranty for something that costs 800$'s mate.And I don't think I will be able to use an android device without root access or a custom kernel :P
[Xperia Z General] fareeed:
Technically yes they're the same but the ZL isn't water or dust resistant.

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Sony have shown many time that if you unlock the boot loader then relock it if you need a warranty repair they will repair it. So I wouldn't worry too much about warranty :)
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
ZL does have LTE. The Z has two different models. One has LTE with specific radio bands and the other is HSPA.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ ion
[Xperia Z General] fareeed:
Do you have any idea which model will be released in the UK?
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
The Z, preorder from Feb 1st, on sale Feb 22nd.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Where?

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Carphone Warehouse
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Check this video guys, m loving it :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNsX30n0R3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] ThilinaC:
That's one sick advertising video,and the power button animation damn :good:
[Xperia Z General] DanielNL:
Which iPhone was it? :)

Music here is still better... :D

https://www.youtube.com/user/SonyXperia?feature=watch
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
guys I have one question: Suppose something goes wrong with my upcoming XPERIA Z while playing with it under water, Sony will simply replace the phone???

note: I have never used water-proof phones :)

watch out XPERIA Z drop test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OBNEEE-O_J4#!
[Xperia Z General] ThilinaC:
They should since its a water proof phone, but that 1m water level thing can be a problem

Even with drop damages they should give warranty right? For this model
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
It's water and dust resistant, not proof. If it's water damaged it would still void the warranty.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Full-res Sony Xperia Z camera samples surface from CES
[Xperia Z General] zackspeed:
I am sold. This is for sure the droid I am looking for :p
[Xperia Z General] Amritttt:
Does any one knows weather it has Sbeam(nfc) like feature that you can transfer videos, pictures and music to your friends device just with one touch to other phone. If this feature is there then good bye sgs3:)
[Xperia Z General] ljubanve:
Yes.

You can see it in the commercial when they clone phone's display by touching TV's remote with phone.
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
You mean send with wifi direct?

Android beam is present in all 4.0 phones with nfc. Uses blue tooth to send file. S beam uses wifi direct connection.

So xperia z would have android beam.
[Xperia Z General] Amritttt:
Yes i know it transfer files by Wi-Fi direct but i want to know is it gonna be that easy or i have to set up a connection to the other device or its just gonna be touch both devices to each other and it will automatically create it.
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
Just touch, works tried it between xperia s and sola transfered pictures and contacts that way. So should be the same for z.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Sony Mobile Australia confirms Xperia Z pricing at A$749

Amazon.de puts up the Sony Xperia Z for pre-order
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
At a launch event in Singapore, Sony Mobile has announced that its flagship smartphone will be available this quarter, but left out pricing and exact release dates.

The Xperia Z will be available in black, white and purple in Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and the Philippines.

Meanwhile, the Xperia ZL--which has a smaller footprint and isn't waterproof--will be released in black and white in Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines. Vietnam will only get the black version.

updated:

SOUTH EAST ASIA

Indonesia

Xperia Z (Black, White and Purple)

Xperia ZL (Black and White)

Malaysia

Xperia Z (Black, White and Purple)

Philippines

Xperia Z (Black, White and Purple)

Xperia ZL (Black and White)

Singapore

Xperia Z (Black, White and Purple)

Xperia ZL (Black and White)

Vietnam

Xperia Z (Black, White and Purple)

Xperia ZL (Black)
[Xperia Z General] killerskincanoe:
what about NAM? when can we expect to see what models will be avail? or potential release dates...?

hungry for the zl to be mine...
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
Sv: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Sxz will land in Dk in primo marts price from 700€-800€ black and white
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Just played with the Xperia Z, what an amazing device, I hope to receive my own device in a few weeks!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
played !!! where ???:confused:
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

One was brought into my work today, of course I had the day off...
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Lucky you !!!

hows the UI? Is it still laggy ???
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

I didn't see it, someone sent me that picture to tease me...
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
The ui is insanely fast, can't tell you where. I played with a beta device, well it was beta software, not the final :), but couldn't find any buggs :)
[Xperia Z General] gtrab:
Is thread should be moved to the new XPERIA Z SUBFORUM :good:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2084
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

MODS please help to move this thread to Xperia Z section please !!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] Drike19:
Disregard.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
thanks Mods !! :highfive:
[Xperia Z General] Mulliez:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Anybody how knows when it comes to belgium? I wanted so bad!
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Mid-March :)
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Xperia Tablet Z Gets a Price Tag and Measurements: 495 Grams Heavy and 6.9 mm Thick

Sony Xperia Tablet Z may be a 10.1 inch slate, but it sets new records when it comes to size. It has a crazy weight of 495 grams and I say crazy because the majority of 10 inch tablets weigh around 600 grams and also it’s 6.9 mm thick and we thought that 8+ mm thick ASUS slates were ultrathin… The product will be available in black or white, it will run Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean and it will be priced at 349 euros in the WiFi version and 449 euros in the 3G/LTE one. The launch will go down in mid 2013.

At 349 Euros it will be cheaper than the 16GB Xperia Tablet S. Lets hope the price is true.
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Sounds like they're making a slate rather than using the folded design from previous iterations
[Xperia Z General] Team hammer:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Omg I'm so jealous of u. It looks unreal. Does the screen look amazing. I'm getting mine the 1st day its out :) :) :) and selling my sh1t s3.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia Z, Xperia ZL to feature display calibration software - now wats that ??? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

We can control things like colour saturation and hue of the screen. Like on a tv.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Xperia ZL goes up for pre-order in Germany

What about the US?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Sony doesn't really care a lot at this point :P It's all about Europe and Asia for this generation, try again next year.
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

What's better about the ZL
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Z, pros: Better front facing camera. All glass (better design), water proof.

ZL, pros: Smaller, IR blaster.
[Xperia Z General] ZN6:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

And ZL packed with bigger battery capacity. Only more 40mah:p
[Xperia Z General] doodads:
The ZL also has a dedicated camera button. Also the fact that it doesn't have flaps over the ports is a bonus :P
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
First potential pics of the Xperia Tablet Z. Looks abso-frickin-lutely gorgeous.
[Xperia Z General] lukesjeans:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Oh my.....that's amazing. My next tablet for sure
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
DROOL.

I doubt they're real, but if they are, omg.
[Xperia Z General] lukesjeans:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Right from Sony mobile japan
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Just noticed: http://www.sonymobile.co.jp/company/press/20130121_xperia_tablet_z.html

Sony is soooooo killing my bank account in 2013. AND I LOVE IT!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
news - http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/20/sony-xperia-tablet-z/
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Z seems better to me, wouldn't be upset to not see zl in the UK :p
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

It looks that Sony ignored the magazine fold design from the new tablet.
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Just saw the Xperia Z again along with the Z tablet, the tablet and phone both are sooo beautiful!!!! omg! http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/21/3902066/xperia-tablet-z-hands-on
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Just a little not 100% sure info here. Sony store here in our country said Xperia Z/ZL will be released at least on our country(Would like to assume it will be on the whole Asia Pacific also) On 2nd to last week of february for both Xperia Z and Xperia ZL(Black and white) type (C6503 only). And the red version Xperia ZL would be coming on the last week of march. I didn't get the chance to ask the price of Xperia Z but the price of Xperia ZL would be around 27 to 29k our currency so if I convert it to USD then it would probably range from 664.78USD to 714.02USD.

Dummy units of Xperia Z and ZL are both coming within last week of january and will be available for display on february they say.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Guys,

Whats the difference in screen size between Xperia Z (excluding on screen buttons) and Note 2/S3 ???

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL Coming Soon] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Xperia Z got release dates for Japan - Feb 9th !!

Great news - http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/22/ntt-docomo-announces-xperia-z-so-02e-launches-on-9-february/

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
What about the UK ?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Chk this bro - http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...se-date-when-can-you-get-it-and-where-1123500

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Camera Smackdown between Xperia Z vs iPhone 5 vs. Oppo 5

http://www.androidauthority.com/camera-sony-xperia-z-vs-apple-iphone-5-vs-oppo-find-5-149414/
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Anyone ???

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
Sv: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

On screen button is only there when needed

But when they are, I've seen some place, don't remember where. It's 4.77
[Xperia Z General] Eddiemc:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Looking at the z (coming from i9300) the bezel top and bottom seems big. The phone looks a bit unnecessary long with lots of space above and below the screen. Since you've played with it, did you have this feeling at all, or does it have a good size/weight?
[Xperia Z General] gtrab:
The reason for the upper and lower bezel is thickness (super thin!), design and waterproof requirements

It ain't that big when you compare it side by side to a Galaxian S3

...and if you want a smaller frame look for the ZL (5 inch screen in a smaller footprint than the S3)

just my 2 cents

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[Xperia Z General] Brac20:
My fiancee works for Three UK and had a chance to have a quick play with the Z this week.

She said it was very smooth, felt high quality and despite it's greater size she said it sits much better in the hand than the T.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw9hFFeiK9A

seems like the japanese Z model has some neat features that the international Z/ZL doesnt have.

Again, these arent the official products, but LA Sony's Xperia Z/ZL didnt show it during the announcement.

I could be wrong, but im just going to point it out.

more toggles on the notification bar, and in recent apps there is a button to clear all on the top left

Anyway the shots are below taken straight from the video, saves you guys time :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia Z (SO-02E) gets priced in Japan

Price - 77,280 Yen (£545, €645, $860)

Source - http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/24/xperia-z-so-02e-gets-priced-in-japan/
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I want this spider HD video, actual video playing on Xperia Z !! :mad:
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
To those interested in the UK, I have spoke to O2, and they said they will be expecting these in on the 28th Feb 2013. Prices are unknown yet but will be tiered close to the iPhone 5 and/or Galaxy S3.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Makes sense to release it when their tariffs all go up lol
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
What is this??
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

This is an ultra thin screen protector that Sony preinstalled in most of it's recent devices. It is very difficult to spot and remove.
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Strange that it has the Sony logo on it.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Every Sony phone has a screen protector but the Sony logo is on the protector and not on the glass of the phone.

Is Sony cutting costs by printing the logo on the protector and not on the glass of the display?

Maybe it was only on the prototypes.
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

I guess so
[Xperia Z General] Matarese171:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

It doesn't make sense to only have the Sony logo on the protector. When people remove the protector(and most usually do) then it will leave the entire front ie. the most viewable part of the phone logoless which would be far more detrimental to Sony than any theoretical extra costs on printing on the phone itself.

A companies products are also mini ads in themselves.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Xperia Z - UNBOXING VIDEO (m not sure if its real or fake)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHuj_jGdwio&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony C5303 HuaShan
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Illumination Bar - back again :)
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
It looks like it :)
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Yes it is real..
[Xperia Z General] wally3614:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Completely real

Gotta be an S3 JellyBro 4.2

Ktoonsez/Task650 Kernel
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Do you mean Xperia z?
[Xperia Z General] theindievisual:
I don't think that screen protector is meant to be removed. It's likely some top layer to boost shatter resistance, or something. Notice how hard they had to scrape at it to remove it.

They're probably putting the logos on it because it's cheaper to place the logo on the final layer rather than etching them into each "main" glass screen, which will make it much easier to put carrier branding on different models without making huge changes to production.
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Sony Xperia Z slated for February 9 release in Japan http://goo.gl/s14fn
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Thanks but old news :)

Wat matters is the global release !!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
I just asked from sony store here in our country awhile ago and they said they're expecting delivery of new batch of devices next week :D Although I'm not sure if it's the Xperia Z/ZL or the Xperia V. But hoping it's the new ones...

The store manager seems to know the price already but she just won't tell me :( She speaks as if she already had all the necessary info and is ready for launch of the new products already.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
SINGAPORE has NO news on release dates yet !!!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

Singapore will get it early March. Maybe end Feb too depending on the stock situation. :cowboy:

It will also be cheaper in Singapore compared to most other parts of the world.
[Xperia Z General] Egan:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Then they're pretty late already ;).
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

Singapore getting Xperia Z by Feb end !! :D

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] kennethso168:
Now there's news

Xperia Z will be launched in Hong Kong on Februrary 18

Source(Chinese):http://www.android-hk.com/news/sony-xperia-z-will-launch-in-hk-in-2-18/
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [News/Rumours/Details][Xperia Z/ZL] Sony Xperia 2013 Devices

I hope Singapore also get on 18th Feb !!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] harfot:
...but you don't as stated above :p