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[Xperia Z General] Readler:
They should make it like Samsung: ONE high-end phone per year.
[Xperia Z General] richteralan:
Xperia S replacement?

If this is true my current Xperia S will be my last Sony phone.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
SONY is launching XPERIA ION in Europe in September..

Strange !!!

https://www.facebook.com/SonyXperiaNXT
[Xperia Z General] Readler:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/29/xperia-ion-coming-to-europe-in-september-2012/

Xperia ion releases in Europe in September

Bad news for the Hayabusa? u13x?

/e: well, xperiax10.awesome was faster ;-)
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Not at all, Hayabusa lacks LTE radio. It would be bad news for the Mint which will be a LTE device. Maybe the ION will be Mint at the end, same alu casing, but with updated specs along with ICS.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Interesting. I had wanted an xperia s with all the benefits of the p and u like the multi-coloured bar, aluminum unibody and white magic display. I wonder if this replacement model will have those.

If this info is accurate then it appears that Sony is now deviating from the leaked roadmap from January. Either that or this unit wasn't planned for an India release. If they are deviating, I think this may be a bit of overlap from the original Sony Ericsson plans and the SMC plans, which might explain the plethora of high end phones like this and the hayabusa / mint. Anyways, I'm just speculating randomly there, but I am very curious as to where they're going with all of this.
[Xperia Z General] Readler:
Hayabusa is going to have the S4 chip which has LTE on board, or am I wrong?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
According to latest info/rumor Hayabusa won't have LTE, just like HTC One S which uses the same SoC.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
May I ask why? It's not as if they're abandoning the support on the device, they just don't want too many of similar spec'ed devices out in the market. You'll have everything you need, including the JB update, so I don't see why you would be disappointed. This is Sony's way to have new handsets continuously on the market and keep the cost down.

Yes, Hayabusa won't have LTE, but Mint will. Didn't I already confirmed this? :p
[Xperia Z General] Readler:
Well, if Hayabusa has the same chip like the GX, it will. But marketing wise, yeah, you are right. The ion has outdated hardware, but LTE. The Hayabusa will have state-of-art hardware but with no LTE. If it had LTE, there would be no point for the ion (but a lower price).

/e: the day of slow posts, right? :D
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
We wont mind if Sony release Xperia S successor say XS+ with combined features of XS XP XU!! :)

It would be perfect option.

Another one will be Hayabusa/GX with uniquie arc like design n awesome specs.

People will have 2 better options to choose from.

I am not sure where this Xperia ION will fit in!!!
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
But isn't exactly this happening? I assume the Xperia S replacement will get a spec update and will be the same as Hayabusa but with is a slightly smaller screen.
[Xperia Z General] Readler:
It's the LTE phone. You want LTE? You have to buy the ion, but you won't get high-end hardware. Deal with it.

At least, that's what I think what Sony thinks :D
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
But Mint will have high-end hardware and LTE too. So it's a good question, where will ION fit. Same goes for Hayabusa if Xperia S+ gets the same internals like Hayabusa
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Its Ok if specs wise Hayabusa n so called XS+ are almost same, end user should not compromise on specs..he should be given the choice in terms of design..
[Xperia Z General] Readler:
I don't think Mint an Hayabusa will both be released at the same time.

C'mon u13x, give us some more information! :-)
[Xperia Z General] cikomiko:
Unnkown will the xs+ have the same form factors like the xs, so we are able to use our accessories with it?

If Sony really combines all features of xs, xp and xu plus upgraded hardware, it will sell like hot pretzels :-D
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
So an xperia s with s4 pro a safe bet?

Btw is Sony like making a lot of phones this year did that it can recover development costs of stuff that was on the pipeline with Ericsson? And once those products are over then we might see a proper pattern to Sony mobiles? As in not having a lot of flagships or maybe last gen hardware etc

(btw I am quite happy with my sxs!!!! Before I get replies of what are you going to do with quad core blah blah)
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
No, totally different form factor. Everyone here has seen it :D I kid you not...
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Well then there we have it. The LT29i will just be the Xperia GX. Was that really so hard to figure out? We've known since the release of the GX for the Japanese market. I wish people would stop making up things they hope will happen :P
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Hmm, is this what you were hinting at earlier? If so, from what I gather we should be finding out more soon... or should we wait for Communicasia?
[Xperia Z General] Readler:
Yeah, will there be some news at CommunicAsia?
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
I guess it's time to change the topic name to Sony Xperia device rumors and details all in here :D
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
How about....tomorrow? :D

and no, the devices launching doesn't include the GX nor the NX nor the Mint. None are coming this soon. I don't have a timeline when they would be announced, but my tomorrow soon will be something else. Again, you all have seen it believe it or not.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Something we all have seen? The Xperia SX?
[Xperia Z General] NoTnERb:
well, the ion just passed the fcc, so i'm guessing its the ion?
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
That's too far away :(

Heh, I'll vote for a Vita that's a phone, cause I have no idea what else to guess.
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
Is it something for USA or International?

Anyway, the international ION would be a pretty weird thing due to zillions of different frequency bands across the different countries. Even inside Europe and even in the same country among different providers.

I do not know how it looks in other european countries, but for example in Germany LTE data prices are plain simply hilarious.

So, it should be either the absolute super mega top device for elite customers or it simply won't sell.

If so, why bother at all?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Off topic, another 'dumb'phone from Sony :rolleyes:

http://mobile.pcauthority.com.au/Article.aspx?CIID=302739&type=News

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[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Sony said no dumb phones this year.
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Only a few more hours and we will find what unkown13x is referring to! :p
[Xperia Z General] richteralan:
Looks cool. Questionable readability under strong light.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
4 Hours to go...:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Let the countdown begin....! :D
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
That is not a Sony phone. It's from a Russian company called Explay. It's only being compared to the Xperia Pureness because they both had a transparent display.

http://www.explay.ru/

Can't wait for the announcement, quite excited! I'm surprised nothing concrete has leaked yet either. If Unknown13x is right (of which I'm sure) and we have already seen the device that will be released there won't be that many options. The Tipo/Tapioca/ST21i? International SX (MT28i)? ST27i Lotus? Probably the latter, but we haven't exactly seen what it looks like yet, have we?
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Xperia Ares
[Xperia Z General] shue249:
Why only 8mp?
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
So this is what Unknown was hinting at? If so... DAMN! :eek:
[Xperia Z General] androidlover20:
What is this model now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Real or just fake...........................
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
The pictures all look photoshopped and not very well. Based on that, I'm going to say fake until we hear otherwise.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
are you sure it's a damn? I thought it's just fluffy?
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Well the prospect of a quad core phone with aluminum body is definately interesting to me. OTOH an 8mp camera and a 4" display are a bit more of an oddity on such a device, unless maybe it's an OLED display and the 8mp camera has a far larger sensor than on previous devices.

Meh, still seems like a bit of a fake. It might just be a coincidence that this surfaced just when unknown was hinting there was supposed to be news on something. We'll know a little later on today I hope.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Sigh...I guess it leaked before the right time....NOT :p Caution though, some of you may not be excited with this new device, though I really am, and would gladly ditch my S and give it to my mom for this new high-end one. Though it doesn't excel past the S entirely, but there are good number of features that people would like, including me, that the S lacked in some aspect. Design wise, the S still stand strong against it, and wins hands down. I'll say it now that it may appeal to some users, but not all, especially if you already own an S.

The reason I say this is because I know how people will react after seeing it. You would feel, "that's it? nothing new here." However, you will have to look into deeper details to see what advantages it has over the S, and if you like its form factor. I personally love it, and like I said, I'm not all into looks. S is great looking, but I like something that looks more rigid. If I do get this device, I won't bother getting the GX, even though it may have a better specs. Not my cup of tea.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
So.. a high end ruggedized pbone ala the Active with specs somewhat similar to the Xperia S?

Just a bit longer and we'll know for sure :)

btw unknown, any comment on this other phone we're discussing? Fake and we should just forget about it?
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Don't bother :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
But do we have some more clear pics n configuration details..and most important thing, the release date?

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[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I guess your questions will be answered in less than 40 minutes :D

So if a XS replacement is going to be announced in a few minutes then I guess that Hayabusa won't hit the shelves in July. :(
[Xperia Z General] zacomaco:
Damn, I liked the design of the hayabusa....
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
When its gonna be announced???

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[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Sorry, I counted wrong :p it's another hour. It's CET and not CST time
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Release date plz :p:D

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[Xperia Z General] NoTnERb:
somebody over at another forum just posted an xperia event over at russia. I think it starts in the next few minutes cause they said 11. same event or no?
[Xperia Z General] zacomaco:
live streaming??
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Yes it's the same event. The press release on Sony's site won't go up til after another hour though, the press event will lead it first.
[Xperia Z General] NoTnERb:
couldn't find any. one of the members just led me here

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aight, cool, thanks :)
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
The wait is killing me! And if that wasn't enough, Amazon Germany is now offering the Galaxy Nexus for just 349€ / 430 US Dollar. I am leaning more to buying this considering Hayabusa won't arrive till August/September. But first let see what Sony has to show in the next hours.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
an hour passed, still nothing shows up at sony mobile press site
[Xperia Z General] NoTnERb:
I don't know how to speak russian but here's Sony Mobile Russia's latest tweet

Google Translate's best effort: Friends, soon all will! Stay with us!

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SMR's tweet a minute ago

Journalists are almost all in the collection, is about to start :)
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
About to start now :)

EDIT:

Will start in 12 mins
[Xperia Z General] NoTnERb:
event should be starting
[Xperia Z General] shmoejoe:
That's cheap D:

I may pick that up just for a backup...or the P...but my old blackberry is on it's way out, so I should pick something at some point :/

I am curious though what they are revealing...I'm keeping the S as my main device for the next two years anyways, but it's always nice to know what the future may hold *crosses fingers for a light bar*.
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
I don't think anybody here mentioned Hayabusa is coming in September. The Mint is coming in September, not Hayabusa. Hayabusa should be out around July. At worst, August.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
According to that leaked roadmap Xperia U, P, Sola should have hit the shelves in April, but it just got released a few days a ago. So expecting a late august/early September arrival of the GX isn't imo wrong, especially since a XS replacement is around the corner.
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
^

There were reasons why the Xperia U, Sola and P were delayed. And the delay wasn't that long. Many asian markets got the U, Sola and P in late April - early May.

EDIT:

Xperia GO and Xperia Acro S announced.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Here's the golden rule, after 3 months in Japan, it'll go globally. Same with today, so what was announced in Japan 3 months ago? :p
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
So, now we know. As far as I understood, they just unveiled

Xperia go and Xperia acro S.
[Xperia Z General] NoTnERb:
"Xperia go - a stylish smart phone in a secure enclosure. The protocol provides IP67 protection from sand, dirt and water."
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
http://www.sonymobile.com/cws/corpo...xperiagoxperiaacrospressreleasefinal-20120530
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
And fairly lowend: U8500, 512mb, 4gb. Like ruggedized U.
[Xperia Z General] NoTnERb:
Xperia go – the stylish Sony smartphone made for extra durability

With Xperia go consumers can watch the latest movies and TV shows in razor sharp quality and with super fast performance. Its sleek and stylish design means durable and water resistant smartphones no longer have to look bulky and ruggedized.

Key features for Xperia go

3.5” Reality Display powered by Mobile BRAVIA Engine gives razor sharp clarity

5MP fast capture camera goes from sleep to snap in just over a second

Scratch resistant mineral glass display with wet finger tracking

Highest level of dust and water resistance in a smartphone – IP67 Rating

1Ghz dual core processor gives consumers super fast performance

Launching on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread), upgradeable to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)

Available in black, white and yellow colours

Xperia go will launch in the US market under the name “Xperia advance”

Xperia acro S – The stylish water resistant HD smartphone

Xperia acro S boasts a 4.3” HD Reality Display for razor sharp clarity, full HD video recording, HD video chat, easy HDMI TV connectivity to enjoy content on the big screen. NFC enabled, Xperia acro S can easily open applications with one touch against an Xperia SmartTag.

Key features for Xperia acro S

4.3” 720p HD Reality Display powered by Mobile BRAVIA Engine gives razor sharp clarity

12MP fast capture camera goes from sleep to snap in just over a second with a single key press

PlayStation™ Certified

Full 1080p HD video recording and 720p HD front camera

Scratch resistant mineral glass display with wet finger tracking

IP55 and IP57 Ratings for dust and water resistance

1.5Ghz dual core processor gives consumers super fast performance

Launching on Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)

Available in black, white and pink colours
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
So the Xperia Arco S is just a water resistant Xperia S? It's launching with ICS, but why does is still have a menu button?
[Xperia Z General] gizzmoffm:
Acro S is quite narrow and short, but for me a little heavy and thick...

Size: 126 x 66 x 11.9 mm

Weight: 147 grams
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Time to sleep for me :D
[Xperia Z General] Kingcool88:
Press pic of the two:

http://pressreleases.sonymobile.com/Upload/2012/0530/Xperia_go_Xperia_acro_S_TopImage.png
[Xperia Z General] androidlover20:
availability in Singapore ?;)
[Xperia Z General] zacomaco:
Acro s 12mm thick!!!!
[Xperia Z General] gizzmoffm:
Maybe because of IP67?
[Xperia Z General] shmoejoe:
The Acro "The Xperia S for those who tend to drop things in the toilet/fishtanks/bodies of water"

I can see it now :P

Well at least they made a more durable device, even if it may be a bit of a fatty :).
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
acro S is not IP67 compliant. It's IP55 and IP57
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
^

Bigger battery too. And a microSD slot !! :)

Basically its just the Acro HD international version which has been on sale in Japan since three months.
[Xperia Z General] gizzmoffm:
correct, I mixed that up...
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
its an ANTI-CLIMAX..

Guys, if everybody agrees, let discuss Acro & Go here, let this space for still awaited HAYABUSA ;)

Sony Xperia Acro S/Go *** Rumours News Everything Here ***
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
sigh i expected much more than these two devices. they are nice but in my eyes the xperia s looks better.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
LETS MOVE HERE

LETS MOVE HERE

LETS MOVE HERE
[Xperia Z General] zacomaco:
So hayabusa will be released mid-august, with S4 & design like japan variant, announced at communic asia

Mint might have the rumoured 2,220 mah battery, with S4 Pro - later release, doubting earlier in japan.

???? is this correct u13x?????
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Maybe this will answer your question

Hayabusa was announced this month in Japan and will be available in July. According to u13x golden rule, the international version will be announced sometime August and will be available in September (or even October?!)
[Xperia Z General] zacomaco:
couldn't the intl. version be announced earlier than three months, and then be available three months after the japan announcement?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Everything could be, but u13x is well informed and if he says the golden rule is "3 month waiting for the int. version" then I believe him.
[Xperia Z General] GT35pro:
2 Xperias announced today on Singapore's hardware zone website. Could this have anything to do with the GX and SX? The phones are called Xperia Go and Xperia Acro S. The Acro S has the same specs as the Xperia S. Maybe it has the new Snapdragon S4.

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-introducing-sony-xperia-go-and-xperia-acro-s
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
^ ^ ^

It has been posted 100 times in the last 24 hrs.
[Xperia Z General] Readler:
So, according to your golden rule the Hayabusa will release in September the earliest, right?
[Xperia Z General] GT35pro:
Oops, my bad. Guess I got excited after reading it.
[Xperia Z General] aR_ChRiS:
No S4 just yet, the acro S is still using the S3 chipset while the Go is using the U8500.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
perhaps xperia s's stylish doesn't go with water/dust resistance?
[Xperia Z General] richteralan:
Glad it's not the Xperia S replacement.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Using the same platform for multiple spin-offs is what Samsung was always good at, and Sony Ericsson began to do this over the last couple of years.

These two new phones are just the Xperia S and Xperia U in a different shell.

Remember the Live Walkman phone last year, which was just a Xperia mini with a few (tiny) mods?

It's easy to do this, although from a design point of view it does impose some limitations as you're likely to need to keep certain buttons in the same place, the image sensor on the back etc... but I think Sony has done well.

It does actually meant that it can be harder to define a flagship if there are two or three phones based on the same hardware. It now comes down to personal taste, but that's a good thing if it means someone still buys a Sony mobile.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
variety of phones is okay as long as they cover different price segments. Xperia S, Xperia Acro S are mid-high-end devices, but real high-end devices are still missing.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Well it will be when the XS is removed from the production line...:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] richteralan:
You mean right now? Or within one month?
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
They'll come - but I do think that the Xperia S is still pretty high end. It's fast, has a great camera, high PPI HD screen and NFC. For most people, that's more than enough.

I mean if someone came out with a eight-core phone next week, would we all regard the One X and Galaxy S III as mid-range all of a sudden?

Sure, Sony has to play the game and release the S4 handsets and then a quad-core device, but they shouldn't need to really.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
any high end phone releasing this year should have ICS or it's not high end phone to begin with. it shows insufficient development effort was put into the "high-end" phone.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
It's not just the hardware which makes a device high-end, but software too. In a few weeks Google is going to announce Android 4.1 JB, but Sony hasn't got one single device on the market which follows the new Android UI design patterns, which makes the interaction with the device more fluid.

Worst, they've got an outstanding device (GX) which they won't release globally anytime soon.

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Well said!
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/-6rm7jgfAeyU/T5qdpRIYKaI/AAAAAAAANRQ/WB8nIoeqjT4/s1600-h/image%255B5%255D.png

For the experts, is this fake?
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
seems fake to me.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I second that.
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Could be true why not?
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
i think i saw this photo when the xperia arc s was launching lol.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Post sources. Don't just say seems fake to me. Why did you think i sad for the pro's ....
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
It looks more like a design concept and if you look at the devices which were entirely build on ICS (GX,SX) you see that Sony got rid off the menu button, which still exits on the current devices.
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
That's a design concept made by a guy quite a long time back :)

Nothing to do with Sony Mobile Communications.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
No, it shows that a phone released in March was in development far earlier than this year (12-18 months for many phones from design to release).

Remember, the phone was delayed due to the Sony Ericsson/Sony change. Was it going into full scale production with Sony Ericsson on the phone and packaging, or as Sony?

Had that not been the case, it would have been released at least a month earlier.

Now at the time, and in my review, I did suggest Sony could have waited a bit longer and shipped with ICS out of the box (thus negating the need to do all the extra testing and deal with problems when updates go wrong) but then I thought more logically... would Sony want a phone due to go on sale late Jan/Feb, delayed until April or May - knowing that by then Samsung, HTC and all the others will have announced or released kit that people might think 'hang on, I'll wait for that'.

People on here already knew to wait and see what else was coming, but Joe Public walking into a phone shop on a Saturday wanting an upgrade? They're not told what's coming out in a few months, so that lead time was surely a good thing - for Sony and us.

Sony needs to make money and make sales, no?

People need to look at the bigger picture. Of course ICS out of the box would have been nice, but Joe Public probably doesn't care and won't be all shocked and excited when they get ICS. Many will be confused, some will be angry (out of confusion and things having changed).

We'll be checking for updates every 15 minutes and then having a mini orgasm when we see the update is out - and getting that buzz when rebooting and playing spot the difference. To me, I think most fanboys would prefer getting an update like this than having it already given on day one. :o
[Xperia Z General] karun11:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia...borders_to_launch_globally_soon-news-4322.php

What is Sony doing?