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[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Does anyone really care what LG does? I really don't think there's any LG smartphone I'd see myself owning. Dull design and a custom UI that makes TouchWiz look classy.

I really don't understand how LG got things SO badly wrong over the last couple of years. They traditionally copy Samsung (still do if you look at their TVs or other things - even washing machines) but they haven't got anything that remotely competes with the Galaxy range.

No doubt on this new phone, they'll copy all the Samsung features though - like the camera to keep the screen alive, a voice command service and so on.. I forget when LG came up with anything original (did it ever happen?!).
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
CES 2013 :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
After CES 2013 we will wait for the H2 for the flagship. Same story every year :)
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
there will be rumours, twitter pictures and facebook hype too?
[Xperia Z General] ironlady:
the chrome sides makes me remember how the lied "premium quality" when it peels off on average usage. so no gx for me
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Rumour:

Xperia GX might be launched on 19th July in Japan..

Source: xperiaBlog

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[Xperia Z General] shmoejoe:
Sounds about right...

would place the international (or regional, since it won't be everywhere) around Q4.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
19th July + 3 month = estimated international arrival ~ 19th October

Isn't Q4 kinda late for the GX? I mean CES 2013 (with new Sony devices) is than just around the corner.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Sony Xperia J outed as name for upcoming ST26i handset
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
SONY has lost it or wat !!!

Learning A, B, C, ..., X, Y, Z in 2012 :D

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[Xperia Z General] Surethom:
I hope the international version has softkeys & not hardware keys, for me the Arc's hardware keys are to low on the device & not thumb friendly to get to when holding the phone, with softkeys they will be placed slightly higher up the phone.
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
i know it's off-topic but anybody knows when the acro s will be released? and is it a good idea to get it now, or is it better to wait for the GX? the thread of the acro s/go is dead :P

Thanks
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Acro S should be released in Q3 in some regions.

Dude, Acro S and GX are two completely different devices. It depends on your personal preferences.

BTW: It isn't sure if the GX will be released globally at all.
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
What do you mean? Will international version of GX have different name - Xperia Z perhaps, or we will not see international GX/Z at all?

Cheers,

Miki
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
There is a rumor that the international GX aka Hayabusa won't be available worldwide, but only in some regions.

Now just my speculation: I guess markets getting Mint (countries with LTE) won't get Hayabusa, cause both are in terms of hw almost identical.
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Hello. Did Sony announce which phones are getting jelly beans update?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
No not yet.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Let them finish off ICS first !!

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[Xperia Z General] xtacee1990:
OK Im just gonna do a little ranting here....

What is going w Sony? Srsly they keep releasing phones w outdated hardwares as their flagship devices, but when they manage to pull out something decent on a marketing level like the GX/ SX they have to postpone them, or if the rumors are true, not release them worldwide. WAKE UP SONY AND PULL YOUR SH** TOGETHER! Jeezus even LG manages to get a decent phone this year and they're even better at actually getting the device on sales on a popular level. With this kind of mentality no wonder they lost BILLIONS of dollars just in 2011 alone. Im not really that much hardcore about specs but releasing a FLAGSHIP phone 5 MONTHS after announcement, last year chip, GINGER-fking-BREAD in June/July 2012 is just UNACCEPTABLE.

Motorola is equally stupid. In this day and age it's all about who bring out something new first and make big headlines. SONY needs to change the way they work and stop relying on brand loyalty to sell their products.

Again this is just my frustration. Sony is my only hope w Android in case HTC goes bankrupt next yr.

And get rid of the HUGE bezels. Make a 4.3 inch phones as big as/bigger than 4.7 phones.

Rants over.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
deeply in love with sony?

---------- Post added at 07:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:36 AM ----------

btw, ion is out on AT&T.... priced as a low end device and it probably is...
[Xperia Z General] xtacee1990:
more like fed up w Samsung's prevalence.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Actually its a great device. Same specs as the Xperia S with LTE and better screen. I have both and prefer the ion.
[Xperia Z General] cikomiko:
@xtacee

You got LG. Go for their high-end devices and wait a decade for a jb update. Cya
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Since you have seen pictures of the MINT can you tell me if it will be like the GX or like the ION on the front side?

One had on screen button and the outer one has capacitive buttons.

What will the MINT be like?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
You know I didn't notice. I'll see if I can get a look at it again.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Could you make a scatch
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
He can take a mister blurry cam shot of it :silly:
[Xperia Z General] xtacee1990:
That doesnt make waiting for half a decade to get an update from Sony acceptable. And at least the Optimus is super fast enough to make people forget about the update. The Ion and Xperia S, on the other hand, will benefit tremendously from ICS. This is not about me hating Sony. They need to listen to criticisms from people who still love the brand but have defected, not super loyal ones who will buy anything they put out, if they dont want to lose another $ 2-3 billion this yr.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
the problem is that XS is a device for end of 2011 or beginning of 2012. ION is just an upgrade of LTE with downgraded OS. XS ICS is rolling out, but ION is still .... old
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
ICS is coming soon. Perhaps as early as Aug 17.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Good info, thanks!

As you seem to be a person with inside knowledge, do you have any info to share about Sonys upcoming tablet? All I've been able to gather is that it has a magnesium-aluminum body and an HDMI out.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
new GN are shipped with JB, but sony is just rolling out ICS to some of its device. sony has a lot to catch up... hopefully by end of 2012
[Xperia Z General] nielneal:
some more hot news about the mint or maybe the xperia z

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...this-be-Sonys-flagship-for-H2-2012_id32180#1-

i guess this wud b the xperia Z...the next flagship :-)
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Nothing new there, only a few more sample pictures
[Xperia Z General] Surethom:
New Photo Samples from "Mint"

Some new photo samples from Mint LT30p & some new details

4.6-inch (720 x 1280) display with on-screen buttons,

1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4 chipset (MSM8960),

1GB RAM, 13MP camera capable of 1080p video recording, 720p front facing camera,

16GB of internal memory,

memory card support,

MHL output, NFC and feature an arc design with a sealed battery.

Plastic Back not metal with a rubberised coating

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/12/sony-lt30p-mint-sample-pictures-surface/

I hope we see a actual picture of the device soon????
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Still waiting to get more info on that.
[Xperia Z General] sirbrian:
Hi any update on the look and specs of Mint? I really can't wait any longer to go back to Sony since I have been using the SGS for 2 years already. Stupid phone keeps freezing.

I know that the Acro S and Ion will be launching in my country real real soon. But I need your advise, is it better to wait out for the GX (not sure if there is going to be an intl release) or even the Mint?
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
I'm in the exact same situation as u (Galaxy S freezing and stupid :P , and confused to get GX/Mint or Acro s), but i choose the acro s, it's a nice phone, durable (im real clumsy), plus it's known to be released real soon, not like GX/Mint .. I advice u do the same.. cheers! :)
[Xperia Z General] miki_69:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/12/a-few-more-details-on-the-sony-lt30-mint/

Cheers,

Miki
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
I'd go for whatever comes available soon. Who knows how long the Mint is going to take to launch. I would expect it to be announced in Sept. and launched in Nov/Dec or even early next year. Sony always announced then takes 2-3 months to release at the earliest.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
So there will be also a HSDPA+ version of Mint, which is kinda awkward. Where is now the difference between Hayabusa and Mint despite non removable battery? They have the same hardware and both have an Arc like design.
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
which now makes me more sure that the international GX/hayabusa isn't gonna happen
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
You are probably right. All the speculations were based on rumors. Even the mint info is based on a rumor. We have to wait and see.

It will be a while until the mint is announced. Sony stated after they took over SE that they want to cut down the time between announcements and release dated.

The mint will be the first phone with no se logo on it. First Sony phone.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
SE logo is just an easily damaged bump on my previous SE phone (and some other models)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
M happy that I have NOT waited for nxt Xperia launch, currently using XS n now waiting till 2013 !!

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[Xperia Z General] waynekirby:
Been watching this thread over the last month or so (can't remember to be exact) maybe longer... anyway extremely disappointed about no Xperia GX international, want it so bad and I've had my contract ended for months and was going to get XS but the 55 2d fps put me off hugely. My Neo looks smoother in terms of fps as it hits 63. I know the XS has S3 chip and a good phone but I can't make my mind up what to do now, I ain't getting a pile of flimsy plastic S3 (IMO) or a HTC OX

Sony can eat my ass if an international release isn't soon!

Wanted to start dev on GX but looks like I'm getting an alternative :(

Sorry the rant guys!
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Mint will still have SE's logo guys. Next year devices won't. However, this year's devices look better than next year's definitely...at least it looks original...sigh...

Well anyways, yes, we will see improvements in terms of announcement to retail time starting from the next set.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Next set means???

2013 range..

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[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
out of all LT30 variants, which one will have metal back not plastic SG3 cover?

by original, are you referring to the design or the manufacture?
[Xperia Z General] :
Waiting for the rumoured Xperia R

Specs -

2Ghz processor

Quad-core

2GB RAM

12 MP Camera

:D

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[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Ty unknow, do you have any info about the announcement of the Mint and Hayabusa?

I've been waiting for so long and there are still nothing news about them T_T
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Where did you get this phone from? It wouldn't make much sense to have their most powerful phone be paired with a lower end camera. I would expect any such device to have the newer 13mp stacked sensor.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Q1 2013 (CES or MWC) is most probably the time for an announcement. Quad Core and 2GB RAM are going to be a "standard" for high-end devices. I guess the next "big step" will be 1080p screens. It's seem like HTC is preparing a 5" quad core (S4) device with 1080p display to be released this fall.

But honestly I give a sh*t about raw specs. Give me a Xperia Nexus with Hayabusa hardware and I'll be happy for many, many years!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Sony Xperia SL

Sony Xperia SL
[Xperia Z General] :
More details about Xperia R -

Super AMOLED Display

4.6 inch scratch resistant screen

32x Digital Zoom

2MP Front Camera with 1080p video recording

Cortex A9 processor

Android 4.1 - Jelly Bean

32GB Internal storage with sd card slot

398 ppi pixel density

Li-on 2100mAh battery

Bluetooth 4.0

NFC

Xloud

Mobile Bravia

Multitouch upto 10fingers

7.5mm thickness

Weighs 130 gms

Looks similar to xperia ion:(:D

:confused: Google it if u hav any doubts
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Spees looks kinda weird. 2013 device with Cortex A9 CPU?! And what about that PPI of 398? It's to high for 720p resolution and too low for 1080p.
[Xperia Z General] :
Edit : Its a 12.1MP camera with a 32x digital zoom and with a camera button:p

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[Xperia Z General] :
Edited my post

Read again

And it will releasse soon

Press :thumbup: button if I helped u

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[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
I'm not really sure that will be true are not

after 3 months of waiting hopelessly for the LT29i (which is not even out yet T_T)

so i won't believe or rise my hope about that rumor, sry :D

Edit: still GREAT if all you just said are true :D
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Sorry, but I highly doubt we gonna see that device. It's sounds fake to me. BTW: Where are those specs from? Anybody could write anything.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
OK, i just recheck his info and I don't trust most of them =.=

AMOLED display and 399 ppi......

ARM A9....

Totally FAKE ...................

i guess he just want to get Thank.....
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I've been to two Sony events this week (one Sony, another for Carphone Warehouse) and although I couldn't get a lot of information and certainly nothing you'd consider a scoop (specs, product names, release dates etc), the one bit of info I did get was that we've not yet seen much that could be considered truly Sony yet - but the nearest to the new design language is the Ion. Thus, the next generation models for H2 and, more importantly, 2013 will be in this style.

Probably not a surprise, but just a little more of a confirmation from people who are at least involved heavily with the mobile side of the business (having been with Sony Ericsson for many, many years).
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
Sony xperia R is nothing but a concept fantasy phone that i saw on a website yesterday..
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
^

Exactly!

Its a concept phone. So stop raising hopes
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/1...nue-until-old-phones-drop-out-of-circulation/

This is exactly what unknown13x told us :D

So all the current Xperia devices are still from the SE era? :>

Maybe we will see truly "Sony" phones by Q1 next year? :X
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
link : http://www.concept-phones.com/sony-ericsson/sony-xperia-features-super-amoled-screen-2gb-ram/

Totally concept
[Xperia Z General] shmoejoe:
Pfff, I like the logo...because it actually was a logo.

I wish they wouldn't move down the generic company name as logo path. Next they will follow with making devices that mirror the Iphone. That is what always held me to Sony(Ericsson), the uniqueness of the devices. Until now, other companies haven't held a candle to the creative department of S(E).

I'm really curious now as to what 2013 will bring. I would really hate to move on from my S to a Samsung device, or got forbid an LG *shudders*
[Xperia Z General] :
That's why i said "RUMOURED" :mad:
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
I bet they are redesigning new logo for the future Xperia line :D

TBH, i don't really like the current logo, its just a bit weird when your phone has a smooth back and there is a "dot" sticks on it :<

I wonder, why don't they just get rid of the Green color so that the there are only Silver and White left for the logo? :> then they can make the logo mark like the Apple logo? :D

and also, I started to have interest in Xperia phones because of Sony not SE

i love most of their products especially the PS3 and VAIO laptops :D
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
I bet they are not. Sony has never used any logos on any of the gadgets they make.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
I think they should keep the SE logo. My phone looks better with it, I think.

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[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
.....

So.... maybe they will change the front of the "XPERIA" and put them on the back like their VIAO laptop? :D

Edit: I forgot to mention that they did put logo on their gadgets

Perfect example for this is their PS logo and the Walkman logo :)
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
you can take the logo from you old phone and stick it to your new phone :confused:
[Xperia Z General] Maximus999:
A friend was telling me that Sony Mobile Communications are set to merge with Sony's consumer devices division and take over the running of tablet design, Chromebooks and Google TV devices. I expected it to be the other way around, but I suppose that SMC have got more experience with Android and have closer links to Google. Eventually the whole division is going to be merged with SCEI (PlayStation) and Andrew House will oversee development of all mobile devices at which point Xperia Vita is on the cards, but until then SMC are in charge.
[Xperia Z General] luna_:
guys, is it really bad to buy the acro s, i mean specs-wise.. all people are saying that S3 is not a good processor but i found it pretty good on my friend's xperia S, never saw a lag or freezing probems.. is the S4 that much better and worth to let me wait more months to see if i get the mint or the gx international ? thanks :)
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Snapdragon S3 Vs Snapdragon S4, How Big Of Difference Does The S4 Make?
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
Problem with that is that the One S is running ICS and the Note is running GB. A lot of it could be software optimizations and the fact that the One S is 1.7ghz. The S4 is faster but not by a huge margin. The main thing is it is more power efficient. In everyday use you won't see much difference between the two, but if you want a bigger e-peen than you go with the latest and greatest.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Nice as the logo is, it doesn't fit with the Sony brand. The Sony writing on the phone IS the logo.

And Xperia is now established for its smartphones (yes, they did do the Xperia Pureness which was only a feature phone but that's about it as far as I can recall). It fits perfectly with VAIO, Bravia, PlayStation etc - so I can see that staying and why change the logo?

From what I've been told, the new design language can be seen by looking at the Ion (and other handsets following that design) so I think we can already get a hint of what's to come in 2013 and beyond. Anything else that looks more like the arc will be the last of the Sony Ericsson-led design.

Now, the question is where the design work will be done. I've been to the design studio at their offices in Lund (and was quite proud to see the magazine I edited at the time being archived on their huge wall of lifestyle magazines - so maybe some things I'd written over the years had been some influence!) but if it all moves to Japan then it could change everything. I doubt the design team would up and move, so we'd probably see all new people and some radical changes.

As for the comment above about S3 vs S4.. I did various tests with the HTC One S (S4) and the Xperia S (S3) and the differences were minimal. Sure, any extra power is nice but it's not something an Xperia S owner should be going 'Damn, I need'. It's definitely worth waiting for if you held out with a 2011 phone until one came along.
[Xperia Z General] jloi:
Cant wait for it! The design is sexy :D
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
Does your friend work at SMC? Just wondering how credible this info is :confused:
[Xperia Z General] Maximus999:
Sony.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
that's going to take a year or two. I don't expected that to be done before end of 2013 unless they want to run the risk of messing up their product line for another year. guess vita mobile won't be on 2013 unless they are already working on it now. but vita game certified ... hmmm
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Not really related, but how is the production of the 2011 devices? Full speed, slower because of the 2012 line or already stopped? They are still "putting" the SE logo? When it gonna stop, if hasn't yet? Just as curiosity...

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[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
if there is no need to revise design, it's probably not cost worthy to change production process to just remove logo
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Well we know the Vita OS was designed with expandability for cell phones and tablets, so one would assume it wouldn't take much effort to create a device using using it. As it stands right now, the OS version running on the Vita isn't really suitable for phones and tablets yet as it's not too competitive with Android and iOS for user experience. Not to mention the lack of an app ecosystem, but that should be recitified once PS Mobile is up and running. As PSM is in the version 0.99 stage of the beta, it really can't be that much longer until it's officially launched. Some of the stuff people are doing with it like PC remote desktop control to play PC games is absolutely amazing at this early stage of the game.
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
The Xperia ION will be available in Italy from September.

But now im waiting for the announcment of the GX and MINT for International release :(
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
It will be also available in Germany and you can already pre-order it for arround 500€. But imo I don't see the point of releasing the ION here in September, when Hayabusa or/and Mint will be released around the same time (October launch?). One answer would be that neither of both will be released in Germany.
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
yes, im from Germany too.

The Sony Ion will be named Xperia ION HSPA and will have a S4 Snapdragon with KRAIT .

I think till end of august we should know what with Mint and Hayabusa is.

Normally the ION have a S3 but if the European HSPA Version will have a S4 with Krait i dont see any changes of hardware between Hayabusa,Mint and ION HSPA.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Where did you get that info from any way??

I thought the Ion was somewhere between Mid and High lvl while Mint will be for the High End, right?

BTW, any new rumours about those new devices??

I'm getting bored when visiting here without anything news T_T
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I started this thread on May 07th hoping that I will get GX soon and today is July 17th and its NOT EVEN announced for international markets !!!

Woww SONY :)

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[Xperia Z General] dubist:
in the Internet :)

there are lot of pages where the write from a ion with s4 soc
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Don't believe that. ION was released in Asia and the U.S. with the S3 SoC. Why should Sony put money into development just to replace the CPU when there are already 2 devices running on S4. People on the Internet talking about an S4 Ion are most likely meaning Mint. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet, unless you got it from xda forum :D
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Ion is S3. I have been told by my friend at Sony that the Mint more of a spec increase from the ion with the arc styling. so I believe that one will be the S4 possibly clocked higher. I am hoping to get my hands on one in the coming months and get more info.
[Xperia Z General] dubist:
here are livepics of the back from the Xperia GX

http://sebbs.it168.com/thread-340397963-1-1.html
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
can't see attachment pic unless you register in their forum?
[Xperia Z General] addled315:
gx model pics

better link to the above livepics (can be seen without registration) with a picture of the front

w w w . ywcec. c o m /supply/78942e72-f57b-410f-92d0-44d78c187561.h t m l

(sorry about the url spacing.....too few posts)

dont know whats going on but this seems to be some sort of (mock up?) model

lol........looks real enough from the back