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[Galaxy S III General] Chicken Nugget(s):
So you disagree with what you said in your 'comprehensive comparison'? If it's so comprehensive, you should include reviews from more than one source, instead of the most critical one you can find ;)
[Galaxy S III General] GuestK00431:
Bull**** I call, not taken with a S3. Samsung murder HTC. Always have, always will. And I'm a One x owner.
[Galaxy S III General] Chicken Nugget(s):
The guy who wrote that article is known to hate the One X (in a very illogical way). For example he complained about 'sharp edges' on the One X compared to the iPhone 4S, I wouldn't trust what he says.
[Galaxy S III General] :
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder. If you have a different opinion, then write your own analysis, nobody's going to stop you. But please don't lecture me what I should include and what not. This is not Philip Kotler's textbook, this is my

opinion

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[Galaxy S III General] Chicken Nugget(s):
I don't think anyone should even be writing a comparison until the phone is properly released, especially not a biased one :)
[Galaxy S III General] :
There are some guys who would never play the game, but will always criticize other players from the sidelines. How good/bad the player is doesn't matter, they just love to criticize. You ask them to join the game, they will never do. "I am good standing outside the field" - that's the attitude. They won't do anything constructive or participate at all, but they will always have some snarky comments to make.

Yea, you do sound like...
[Galaxy S III General] Chicken Nugget(s):
I think my criticism towards your post is as constructive as anything, it depends on you to take it on board. If you don't wanna hear/act on criticism then that's fine, but to voice your opinion, you'll have to prepare for people disagreeing with you.

On the actual topic, the S3 looks a bit smudged, my phone pictures often have this blurred out and washed out look when the camera is dirty, I don't think the S3 will be THAT bad.
[Galaxy S III General] ECrispy:
I think there is no doubt the HTC One series takes fantastic pictures thanks to the camera and ImageSense. Now we're hoping the GS3 can match that quality. What is known is GS3 will be better for video though.
[Galaxy S III General] Lucasm93:
I'd say it's either fake (dunno how the person would be able to get the phone outdoor)

or it's a software issue that will be (at least, should be) fixed.
[Galaxy S III General] Chicken Nugget(s):
Yep, I'd say most probably to be fake too ;) Samsung isn't going to downgrade their camera, no way.

However looking at the back of that phone, I'm quite worried that it's gonna be scratched easily.
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
WAIT till we get the actual phone in the shops cause this is like a demo? this stiil has a s**t load of bugs.

these pics are rubbish to the s2
[Galaxy S III General] Fornowagain:
Is it?
[Galaxy S III General] m33ts4k0z:
never mind.
[Galaxy S III General] Kickasskev:
All the data is there if you ask me

Sent from my HTC One X
[Galaxy S III General] m33ts4k0z:
But still u can actually edit the fields by hand...

There is seriously something wrong with these washed out photos... It's not any detail problem between these photos. They just seem washed out.

It can also be that this guy didn't activate the HDR on the phone.
[Galaxy S III General] NIK516:
yes the exit data just makes no sense ( excuse the pun)

I believe it's software not hardware at fault, for the washed out images from the s3 . when you look at detail both have the same amount of detail.

the thing to note is both of them would have an almost identical image due to the setting of the f stop Iso and the shutter speed.

however the thing is that the one x should be over exposing with an f stop of 2 and iOS of 160 and shutter speed of 1/20 this all points to a longer and brighter exposure.

very strange to me, I know my dslrs and I know what they can do so I find this strange.
[Galaxy S III General] Kickasskev:
I have dslrs to, to me the gs3 pics look a little grainy as if the ISO is high.

I think that this could all be software realted, only time will tell when that actual device is released

Sent from my HTC One X
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Nice made comparison by a HTC fan boy. No exif data and source, then all those images are piece of trash.
[Galaxy S III General] JohnDogget:
Mates, are you serious considering these ****ty photos taken by Galaxy S3 as comprehensive comprasion? Come on don't bull**** me. Look at sharpness. Looks like this guy was jerking off while taking photos with GS3 (oh yes, oh yes, ive got new Galaxy S! :E). Pictures doesn't look crisp because some one didn't want to take good photos. In terms of colour and saturation and contrast SGS3 is a clear winner here. Lets wait for normal tests.

HOX photos may look good but they are just oversharpened. I'm pretty sure that Galaxy S3 has far better sensor (it's the new one and from samples I've seen somwhere else I can tell that it's the best 8MP camera out there) than HOX.

The worst thing about Galaxy S3 is the "red tint" on white objects like walls etc. :( I've got the same problem with my Galaxy S2 and had same problem on Galaxy S. There's something fishy and I don't know what's that. ;/
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
nice link dude, htc one x got spanked in all the test....
[Galaxy S III General] Fornowagain:
What's this then?
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Hmm look at the time strap, one was taken at noon and the other at morning. You still compare these.

But still unless these info comes from a trusted source they are still trash
[Galaxy S III General] Chicken Nugget(s):
The S3 should have better pictures at noon... but I don't think it's the S3's pictures at all.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
yup , its either not from s3 or specifically taken with wrong settings
[Galaxy S III General] Fornowagain:
Just correcting your error. Actually I don't think these are fakes as such. The time stamp will depend on the phones time zone setting. The time interval of each pair of shots is the same over a 15min period (excluding the 7 hour differential). Of course the guy could have edited the EXIF data for model/firmware number etc, a lot of effort imo. I don't think they're that relevant without more data. Some proof of the device would have been nice, also is this a retail build etc. I'll withhold judgement for the time being.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Guys, Thanks to XDA member fraencko, I found some images taken from SGS3.

All details here: http://www.androidnext.de/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-testvideo-und-fotos-der-kamera/
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
did you notice the video? its much smoother and doesnt looks shaky
[Galaxy S III General] Gene_Bailey:
Actually I do remember reading that the SGSIII also has a dedicated image chip as well.. I'll see if I can locate the article

Sent from a heavily customized HTC Shooter using Tapatalk 2. Favorite ROMS? CyanogenMOD, Warm 2.3 and MIUI. Go ahead, hate on MIUI, its all about options. Writer for Landofdroid.com and Android Enthusiast Extraordinaire :-P
[Galaxy S III General] :
AFAIK, there is no dedicated image chip for SGS3. But Samsung is promoting the internal ISP of the SoC>

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products4quad.html
[Galaxy S III General] Gene_Bailey:
Ah thank you! My apologies as I was lead to believe that the image chip was separate from the Exynos

Sent from a heavily customized HTC Shooter using Tapatalk 2. Favorite ROMS? CyanogenMOD, Warm 2.3 and MIUI. Go ahead, hate on MIUI, its all about options. Writer for Landofdroid.com and Android Enthusiast Extraordinaire :-P
[Galaxy S III General] DJ Palmis:
Actually if you read the source code of driver http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/10708/ there is a communication via SPI and I2C with camera.

I.E.: If you want Color Fx it writes command via I2C to camera uC.
[Galaxy S III General] Daemos:
Samsung or HTC...the photos still look meh at best.

Seriously it's a phone, does anyone expect a camera on a phone to take good pictures? They are both perfectly usable, but I wouldn't want to use them for any events, or get-togethers.

Even a half-decent P&S will take better pictures.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
nothing wrong in expecting a phone to get decent pictures, its one among the features we are paying for. its always not right to say "get a decent camera!!" whenever people talk about camera quality in mobiles.
[Galaxy S III General] sschrupp:
Exactly. Back in the day the argument was "It's just a phone, you expect it to be able to send messages too?" or "..you expect it to play music too?" or "..you expect it to play games too?" or...

Yes, I think we're to the point now where we'd like these all-in-one devices to take good pictures as well as all the other functions we use them for. Yes, we understand a device bigger than our phones designed only to take pictures will take better pictures. Technology gets better and better though, so yes we want good pictures with our phones.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
s2 , s3 or any other mobiles are capable of taking some good pictures when compared to many digi cams which got released few years back
[Galaxy S III General] :
Guys, GSMArena got a test unit with them.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lands-in-our-office-for-a-hands-on/

Their preview is coming up shortly. Maybe we can ask them to upload few images taken from the GS3.
[Galaxy S III General] Daemos:
The thing is...they don't.

Sensor tech may of come a long way...but I'd say even compared to P&S I'd carry around as a portable backup camera from 5 years ago would blow the S2, S3 out of the water.
[Galaxy S III General] m33ts4k0z:
The review from GSMArena is up and there you can find the photos that are really taken with this phone and even have the proper EXIF data :P

What do you all think about them? I found them fantastic.

Download the 1080p video and see how wonderful it is too!
[Galaxy S III General] oXunknownXo:
Read this:
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Now compare the images from gsmarena with that of the OP, im laughing at it. IT clearly proves the images in Op are not from s3.

sgs3 provides much better contrast and saturation than sgs2!! love it!
[Galaxy S III General] SiNJiN76:
Okay...before 2 days ago...I didn't know what f stop meant...and I didn't know what BSI meant. Now...what's this Camera Sensor? What does that do...and how much difference can it make? Could it still be possible for better photos than the One X due to a better Sensor? But surely...due to the aperture size...low light pics will definitely go to the One X, right?
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
better sensor than sgs2 means better quality images for sure. afaik aperture size controls how much area your camera can cover,hox can cover a bit more of area than sgs3 and both are backlit so low light pics should be better than the previous generation
[Galaxy S III General] bimmerboii:
Aperture means an opening where light travels. The lower the aperture, the bigger the opening is. Thus more light can get through. Hence, the reason of having lower aperture to better capture images in low light.

What you are saying is focal length. The shorter the focal length, the more area you can capture.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
A good article regarding aperture and focal length

http://www.photoaxe.com/understanding-the-lens-focal-length-and-aperture/

and this shows that there is a link between aperture and focal length

http://www.snapjunky.com/digicam-advanced/digital-camera-aperture-eyes-to-the-world.shtml
[Galaxy S III General] vasra:
Yes, this is indeed a relief.

However if you look closely, the S3 shots are over-exposed.

Now, whether this is a function of shot-to-shot variance (different measuring point when switching between cameras OR changes in global illumination) we don't know.

However, if the S3 over-exposes, it's a disappointment as those blown highlights are next to impossible to recover. And yes, I know it's a cam phone and I'm not expecting PureView downsampled to 8Mpix quality out of S3.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
You do know you can increase the saturation and the contrast on the SGS2 to achieve the exact same results? To me they look exactly the same as the SGS2 shots apart from the aforementioned heightened contrast/Saturation.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Ya, what about the quality of pixels? haven't tested that
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Based on the shots provided by GSMArena the difference in quality is negligible.

The HTC One X performed better in my opinion, but the sharpness filter should be toned down.

Going to be interesting to see a head-to-head comparison.

My guess is that the Xperia S is going to reign supreme when it comes to camera quality.
[Galaxy S III General] Daemos:
Looking at the pictures of both the One X and the GS3 I can comment on these things:

IMO the One X looks *slightly* better

Here are the issues with them all.

Lack of Depth of Field

Even at zoomed out, you can tell the details are lost and smudged

Can't comment on the colour unless if they get a colour chart.

Comparing the SGSIII to SGS II...

The first picture is better in the SGSII, the second picture is pretty close overall, and for most I'd call it a tie, but I'd rather use the SGSII picture and correct it my self than rely on the phone to do it for me, I think I'd get a better picture out of it.

The SGSIII has insane amounts of noise reduction where there are lost details compared to the SGS II

Look at the GSM arena 2nd comparion photo and look for the UniCredit Bulbank sign...see the SGS II's pictures have much more fine detail, a bit more noise, in the first picture bottom right hand corner near the car park, see the fence? The SGSII has much more detail in the fence than the SGSIII. I'd rather have detail and some noise than no noise and no detail.

The SGSIII also seems to have a sharpness filter ontop of it, sharp contrasting colors seem to pop out unaturally.

The SGSIII seems to resolve highlight details better where the SGSII seems to resolve shadow details better.

In properly lit conditions, it seems the SGSII photos can beat the SGSIII's but we'll have to wait for low light condition photos, as that's where the advantage of the Back lit sensor comes in.
[Galaxy S III General] NIK516:
I really want to know the dimentions of the sensors, if the gs3 has a larger sensor I know it will handle low light better.

Also the comment made about over exposing is true, I would rather under exposed images. However until we start to see raw files in camera phones we won't have much to work with.

I think this will be a great camera to work on and update.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Then do check out the One X vs Xperia S comparison Phonearena did here.

I think it's quite possible that the SGS3 is going to have the worst camera of the three - Xperia S > One X > SGS3.
[Galaxy S III General] Daemos:
Outdoors...the Xperia S beats the one X...EASILY.

you would have to be blind to not see the difference. Better way more details, better white balance, exposure, *less* noise,

indoors...both are pretty horrible, the white balance on the one X is horrible...the one x seems to resolve some more detail (looking at the flowers on the left) in the med light, ditto low light...but holy crap...those are horrible pictures. One X more noise...but more detail, it seems in low light conditions the NR algorithm is very agressive on the Xperia S, but no so much on the one X...so the one x might be the slightly better if you don't mind doing some post processing work with white balance and some NR.

The indoors with flash...the one X might have a weaker flash, but it could also be better controlled...there arn't any harsh shadows...but honestly...they are so bad...I would be ashamed to post them up even on a site like facebook. Look at the yellow flowers on the right, they almost look like a water pastel painting on the one x...but for whatever reason the xperia S now seems to have a less agressive NR with the flash on...but there is so much noise I'm not sure how much of the image is recoverable...I can't really give a nod to either in this situation, they both are horrible at different things, basically only if you are desprate type of photo.
[Galaxy S III General] nebsif:
Did they solve one X recording video on 22 FPS (Tegra3)??

From all the pics I saw I got the impression that all that's special about 1x camera is the monster fast shutter, rest is just hype.
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
look here galaxy s2 vs s3

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...mera-Samples-Revealed-Compared-to-Galaxy-S-II

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no

enough said
[Galaxy S III General] :
Download the full 1080p samples for GS3 and HOX and compare.

Taken from GSMARENA.
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
im my eye the galaxy s3 looks better

but the sound is crap

the hox looks great to but not as sharp;):cool:
[Galaxy S III General] :
Download and compare images shot from SGS3 and HOX from the GSMarena review.

I have uploaded the photos to google drive. To download in full resolution, go to File menu > Download.

Link: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9nyunN2dDgVcERuM0tOWkstams

They all have full EXIF data.
[Galaxy S III General] m33ts4k0z:
Judging by this link above isn't it rather clearly obvious that SGS3 takes better photos? I certainly like SGS3 much more
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
now thats what im talking about this is great!

HOX sammyboi has taken back the title best camera!:cool::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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can i have that pic in your sig by any chance to use in mine
[Galaxy S III General] :
Check the average bit rate for the HOX video. I am shocked. It's about 4Mbps for Full HD :eek::eek:

I have to download again and confirm.

Minimum fps was less than 10.

hmmm..
[Galaxy S III General] naddie:
Am I the only one who noticed that 003_GS3/HOX.jpg the trees are missing/have leaves? Were they taken on different times? That can account for the difference in looks (lighting/time of day).
[Galaxy S III General] m33ts4k0z:
lol don't you think that S3 takes better photos than HOX? :P

PS: Yes sure you can take it. A friend of mine who is also getting S3 took it too.

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Yes that's obvious but the thing is that if you look a bit closer on HOX photos, they look a bit more "pixely" in my opinion.

If we dont have photos with same lightning we can't tell for sure but with a first look I like S3 photos better.
[Galaxy S III General] :
HOX photos are from GSMarena's review dated 12th April and SGS3 are from yesterday's preview.

Obviously there is about 1 month gap.
[Galaxy S III General] JupiterdroidXDA:
That link is all thats needed, thread over, goodnight;)

The SGS3 blows the SGS2 camera out of town... And the 1x camera is not a patch on the SGS2 camera

game over;)

JD;)
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
the s3 defo takes better pics

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so? should perform the same:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy S III General] zigson:
Looks like the HOX pics were taken on a cloudier day. I've not checked the Exif data, but less light would usually mean longer shutter times and slightly more chance of blur, or higher ISO with slightly more noise.
[Galaxy S III General] GS3Central:
Sensor

Aside from all the new "smart" features on the Galaxy S3, I believe it still has better quality than the HOX.

I am pretty sure the HOX uses the S5K3H2YX Samsung sensor found in the S2. While the S3 uses a brand new S5C73M3 BSI sensor.

Also the HOX only records at 10Mbps and the Galaxy S3 records at 17Mbps
[Galaxy S III General] J0HNiE:
i have a question that concerns me, it might be a bit weird but i have to ask.

shown on the sgs3 the flash is on the right side of the camera, usually cameras have the flash right next to them, above or below them.

now should this be a bit of a problem taking picture with flash on, wouldn't the right side of the pictures be more brighter?

i'm only asking because on the sgs3 the flash is pretty far from what we use to see on other phones...

what do you think?
[Galaxy S III General] JupiterdroidXDA:
I cant believe the amount of One X users trolling the SGS3 boards trying to justify buying their phone which only lasts 8 hours a day...

SGS3 is the pinnacle and i think the quicker they accept it the better. Even if it was faster and took better pics than the SGS3 it still would be useless as you have to charge it 3 times a day, lol

And 1x video recording is awful... Normal service resumed for HTC..

JD
[Galaxy S III General] zigson:
This shouldn't be a problem because if you got close enough for it to make a difference, the flash would flood the picture anyway. Think of the distance between flash and lens on an SLR.
[Galaxy S III General] ECrispy:
I do wish it had a lower aperture. You can't fix low light performance without it.
[Galaxy S III General] SiNJiN76:
Okay...can the aperture be controlled? Or is the f stop a mechanical limitation when the lense is built? (Hope I asked the questions correctly :D)
[Galaxy S III General] TheUnkn0wn:
Light follows the inverse square law. This basically means, no it doesn't matter.
[Galaxy S III General] The Smoking Man:
49ripsnas

It is disinformation like this that should be prevented:

digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-s3-impressions-maybe-it-is-designed-by-human-emotion

With the camera, Samsung seems to be desperately trying to outdo HTC’s awesome One X camera experience, but it isn’t quite there yet. The 8-megapixel rear camera’s photos are good enough, but not quite up to the level of HTC’s One phones, and it lacks some of the high-end features that HTC’s dedicated ImageSense chip provides. The burst mode, for example, tries to pick the best shot and can shoot a bunch of pictures at once, but it just doesn’t work as well or fast as the One. You also cannot record video and take pictures at the same time (a feature we like).

Someone is trying really hard to make the GSIII's camera look bad... #agenda
[Galaxy S III General] TheUnkn0wn:
I'm pretty sure the SIII can take a picture while recording a video. Looks like they are HTC fanboys.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Quoted from the article:

You also cannot record video and take pictures at the same time

hmm..best to avoid articles like that.
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
You can record video and take pics at the same time and look over the last pages the galaxy s 3 easily beats the one x not only in picture quality but also in video;) face it the one x is shot in every way compared to this beast now run along to the htc one x form and troll there
[Galaxy S III General] zigson:
I don't think so mate. Aperture just means opening, it's controlled by those blade things you see around the lens on a normal camera.
[Galaxy S III General] JupiterdroidXDA:
Agreed, as per my last few posts,

HTC trolls are swarming this SGS3 forum trying to justify their poor choice in purchasing the 1x. HTC will never change, 8 hours of battery life, creaking case, sub-par recording and crappy microphone and speaker.

Just sell it on eBay and by an SGS3, you know you really want to, thats the real reason you trolls are here;)

JD
[Galaxy S III General] SiNJiN76:
So the blade things are stuck in that position, it's not adjustable? Well, I guess that makes sense...otherwise there wouldn't be all this debate over this phone coming with 'only' a f/2.6. :)
[Galaxy S III General] Lucasm93:
Even DSLR lenses have a minimum and maximum aperture. For example, the stock lens in my Nikon D5100 has a minimum aperture of f/3.5 in the widest angle. But I can make it smaller (higher number) through manual control.

I don't think that this happens in any cellphone, since you need mechanisms inside the lens to "move the blades".

I belive the adjustments made in cellphones cameras are in the exposure time and ISO only.
[Galaxy S III General] Reckless187:
The Video definitely looks better on the SIII, but the pictures? Not really. Blind fanboys crack me up.