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[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
OFFICIAL Xperia Z1 Press Release Papers Leaked

OFFICIAL Xperia Z1 Press Release Papers Leaked before the launch at IFA 2013

1/2.3 -type Exmor RS for mobile CMOS image sensor with 20.7 MP and can take 61 images in 2 seconds. :good: BIONZ image processor -

IP 55 & IP 58 dust and water resistance certification :good:

Qualocomm Snapdragon 800 2.2 Ghz MSM8974 Quadcore chipset.

Triluminos display with x-reality, Solid one-piece aluminum frame.

via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/09/03/sony-xperia-z1-official-press-release-papers-leaked-full-specs-revealed/

Source of images - http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/03/sony-xperia-z1-press-release-leaked-full-spec-list-revealed/
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
:)

a bit heavy,170g,and 8.5mm
[Xperia Z General] Zaim2012:
No mention of an S-Master Amp :(
[Xperia Z General] thalada:
Do not quote the whole post :(
[Xperia Z General] Zaim2012:
My bad I didn't realise.
[Xperia Z General] :
cant see anything special the z even better becouse its smaller
[Xperia Z General] kbadone:
Tell me about it!! I guess ill just import a walkman Z from Japan, unless they announce a new walkman model which I doubt :( Therefore I am skipping the Z1
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
170 g is quite a lot for an every day phone...

Sent from my Xperia S
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
we wanted a bigger battery, and we got it, so stop *****in:)

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
You would get used to it, its just a phone and it will actually make the phone feel more solid and premium.

As someone already said, you got a great batter which will benefit a lot better and outweigh its few extra grams.. you won't need to find and fit a external battery case anymore :)
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
People are complaining about a 170 gram phone.... what has this world gotten to? Soon people will complain that they need to hold the phone in their hands :eek:
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I've got a 2800mAh battery case on my XZ, and even then it's not too heavy and still fits in my pocket.

Battery life is probably more important than performance on anything I choose to use from now on.
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
Absolutely Z1 surely will not require you a battery case for sure :) Snapdragon 800 is very power efficient.
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
No 4k vídeo? :(
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
The point is that I never felt the need for a larger battery on Z. At the end of a regular day with several phone talks, web reading, hill climbing and so on, I still have around 50%.

Spectacular would be to have all these z1 specs in the z's package (139x71x7.9 mm, 146g). I cannot understand the worry to launch a new flagship, 6 months after Z, just by going bigger and heavier for the same 5 inches screen. It seems to me like a move in the opposite direction in terms of innovation.

All in all I'm quite happy with my Z and as I'm planning to keep it for quite a long period, the fact that this z1 launch reduces the market value of my phone affects me little.

Just a side note: I'm crazy about Sony products and it's the only tech brand I buy.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
[MENTION=1648913]alexpraga[/MENTION], LOL, most of us here are Sony fans.

I am amazed to know your battery numbers, i am guessing you use no LTE/3G and sync all the time.

Even though Xperia z is a good phone, it is not #1 or top few out there and the market is too fast. comparing it to the current flagships, its technically little older in terms of internals & we all know Sony can't really wait more time :)
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
I use the stamina mode and I have LTE on, although most of the time I am using wifi (location based on). Sync is on with 15 min email checking.

I understand the market pressure but if people feel that the expensive phone they are buying will become obsolete in 6 months they will not be happy customers. For instance, Apple is selling the same phone for 6 years now, lol

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
iPhone 6 years lol

hopefully every manufacturer stops doing that when the market matures

HTC did that last year, i think LG also did it this year.

Once they have a flawless device, i think manufacturers can do stick to their upgrading business once an year.
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
any proof on that ? did i miss all these battery tests ?

FullHD is written there -.- so it seems there really is no 4K Video..... :crying:

To bad, Acer anounced a Smartphone that does 4K recording.

http://www.computerbase.de/news/2013-09/acer-stellt-4k-smartphone-liquid-s2-vor/
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
As has LG already. Seems very odd to leave 4K video off when you're making 4K TVs and trying to sell them to the public on the basis that there is 4K content available (like your own recorded stuff).

Guess that's for the Z2 next February...
[Xperia Z General] Why So Serious?:
I'm surprised at all the negativity surrounding the Z1... as fans of Sony products I think we should be happy with what they've brought to the table. For the past 2 years Sony has been playing catch up to the Android big boys. The XS was a mile off the S3 and was only released a couple months beforehand. That was only 18 months ago.

The Z1 isn't a whole lot different to the Z (Sony's 2H flagships have always been incremental), but it has improved in some key areas... Screen, Battery, Camera (speculative at this stage until it's tested properly, but the signs look good) and crucially, this time, has absolutely top notch specs. These things will make a huge difference to the overall user experience.

The Galaxy S5 won't be announced for another 6 months so there is a lot of time now for Sony to establish itself as a credible player in the Android game, and given the rate of improvement from them who knows where they'll be by the time the Z2 (or whatever it may be called) is ready. We should be proud of Sony for making it to this point, not complaining despite getting 2 top quality flaships this year.

Lastly, the Note 2 weighs 183g. The weight of the Z1 isn't going to be a problem.
[Xperia Z General] soulrebel1:
You seem to be assuming the extra weight is solely due to the bigger battery. The Razr Maxx has a 3300 mAh batter and weighs 145 g, which exactly the same as the Xperia Z. The weight is more likely due to the build materials and camera than the battery.
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
yes

razr is 4.3" device, so it's not really ideal comparison.

Look at it this way. XZ is 145g also. Add 5g due to alu frame, and 20g due to 700mah bigger battery. I find that pretty reasonable

my look on z1. It's going to be really nice device, and i would surely like to own it, but after watching qx100/10 promo video, i think i know were my money will go first :), and then maybe get honami around christmas
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
It's funny how everyone complained when XZ came out about its poor display quality, poor battery and poor camera quality.

Now, Z1 has triluminos display with x-reality, much bigger battery and 1/2.3inch camera sensor with 20.7MP, 3x clear image zoom, F2.0 aperture, G lens and bionz imaging processor, shutter button and again people complain that it is not better than XZ, it's the same, it's too heavy etc.

This is one amazing device, at least in my mind. I'll buy this when my contract ends or honami mini if it will exist.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I never thought the XZ had a bad screen, and battery life has been pretty good - although I invested in a clip on battery pack for long days away from power. The camera was also improved with updates (the one thing that was terrible from launch).

The Z1 looks great but any 'normal' user with a Z probably needn't feel too upset. Obviously most people on here will get it simply because it's the new flagship! Myself included, even though I really don't feel unhappy with what I've got now.
[Xperia Z General] knightpt:
Xperia Z had a bad screen when it was launched. It was improved with updates with better blacks, a white color balance app, colors were slightly better calibrated, etc. Now with latest update only the viewing angles are pretty poor, wich doesnt matter for a lot of people and others overreact a little bit...

Battery is OK if you aren't a hardcore user, problem is that it's non-replaceble... in all my previous smartphones i had no problems with battery since i always had a spare fully charged, now that changed for me with my xZ and makes me somewhat limited on some days.

But, all in all, i just love my XZ. Never had so much pride in a phone before, it's just that beautifull and good feel in hand.

Honami? it's much much better on paper. I don't know if i'll like the extra size and extra weight tough, i'll keep my Z and wait for 2014 for sure :) But if i was looking for a new phone now and didnt have the xZ, it would definately be my 1st choice on the market.
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
Just wondering if Sony has finally catch up to the top notch specs this time... Will 2014 ces suvesslr have a snapdragon 800 again? Maybe overclocked?
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
Unless they announce Honamini today, 2014 CES is will probably be a ZL version of Z1 with S800 and super compact.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
Note 2 is a 5.55 (+23% screen area) with a pen included and targeting a different type of user. I would compare that with Z ultra, not Z or Z1.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] dexterxda:
(144 x 74 x 8.5 mm, 170 grams) vs (139 x 71 x 7.9 mm, 146g) so it's 5 mm taller, 3 mm wider, 0.6 mm thicker and 24 grams heavier. It's not that bad, I'm not sure I'll really feel the difference whether it's in my palm or in my pocket (I had a Note 1 before buying an xperia z). To me it's nothing compared to all the improvements they are bringing to the table: Better camera (one that will live up to expectations I hope), better CPU and GPU, better display (the Z's display got better after updates but it's still below the competition imo), hopefully we'll get better battery life too (most of the time I reach the end of the day with 40 to 50%, but on rare occasions when it's been a long day and I've had to use it more than usual, I need to plug it if I want to take pictures, play or browse the web during the evening.), it also has a shutter button AND it's still waterproof.

But if I hadn't save some money for this upgrade I'd probably feel like you. They could've waited a few months before releasing it so I wouldn't look like an addict when I'm gonna buy a new phone only 6 months after the previous one. But before buying it I want to see how good the camera is, coz if it's jut a gimmick I'll wait for the next upgrade.

I'm not particularly a Sony fan, but I like what they are trying to do in the smartphone market. I'm a little tired of Samsung and their cheap often defective products (Note 1's black crush issue, and a problem with the camera on my Nexus 10)
[Xperia Z General] japjit100:
What is timing of event
[Xperia Z General] Why So Serious?:
Go ahead... I'm not debating whether or not the Z1 should be lighter, as far as I'm concerned Sony had half a year to improve on the Z and they had much bigger priorities than shedding weight, and rightfully so!

Nobody's hand ever fell off due to the weight of the note 2, so it won't be a problem with the Z1.
[Xperia Z General] :
i dont understand why sony dont listen to their customers

they put that huge nav bar again

they need to make it smaller it takes the whole screen its annoying
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
15:15 UK time / 20.45 IST / 16.15 CEST / 23.15 JST / 10.15 EDT.
[Xperia Z General] Ukbondraider:
Cant believe people are moaning about the weight and also saying that the battery life of the current Z is ok.

My Zs battery life is appalling. I get half a day out of it just from surfing the web. Also stamina mode is useless if you actually use your handset.

Furthermore the camera on the Z is appalling.

The question is whether to get the Z1 or the Ultra.

Only downside I can see is the lack of a 32gb handset as standard.
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Models in Swimsuit Advertising Xperia Z1 ahead of IFA 2013

Models in Swimsuit Advertising Xperia Z1 ahead of IFA 2013

via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/09/04/models-in-red-swimsuit-seen-advertising-xperia-z1-at-ifa-2013/

Check the video here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_NCifp0Ff0 or here https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=718149544877571

[YOUTUBE]<iframe width="480" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/H_NCifp0Ff0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
Who said that they didn't listen?

Maybe they did

Maybe they didn't

The fact remains that they will never be able to please everyone, because we all got different tastes, if the Z1 isn't what you hoped it would be then why not look for a different model, or different brand. No one is forcing you (hopefully..) to pick something you don't like.

And why do you say that they don't listen to their customers? Based on what would you say that? Because they didn't do something you said, because they didn't do something that people on XDA said? The world is bigger then us (XDA) and so is their customer range.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
People are getting nervous about this discussion... Lol

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Ukbondraider:
Its clear they have listened to their customers.

1. Better screen, check

2. Better battery life, check

3. Better camera, check

4. Fastest processor available, check

Whats not to like.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
These models seem lighter than Z1...

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
1 hour 14 mins more :)
[Xperia Z General] :
i cant switch becouse i already got the z
[Xperia Z General] snehil93:
Pervert!!!! Lol! :p XD :D
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
wow! the leaked video was awesome!

i want this phone!
[Xperia Z General] japjit100:
Sony Xperia z1 promo leaked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF8QnLJpSTQ
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
:D
[Xperia Z General] :
why its taller the xperia z look like a mini near the z1
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
Live cast from IFA - http://community.sony.co.uk/t5/IFA/ct-p/ifa_en
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
seems its started on the youtube mirror:

[YOUTUBE]1Uka06EW0BQ[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
I did not know the youtube link, seems like sony's website is few seconds faster for me.

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Lol seems like youtube video is a frame of the website itself.. technology cant be used even worse lol
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
The phone stuff should be starting around now....
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
Honami now woot

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It's official now :)
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
finally announced :p
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
I see O2 is giving away a QX10 with all Z1 preorders. Lucky UK.
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
That's cool
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
when is the pre-order expected to arrive? i will be Europe from October to December :)
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
Lucky you lol
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Don't know about O2 but Phones 4U in the UK has said it will ship before the end of September.

EDIT: Does anyone feel somewhat underwhelmed, not with the phone, but the fact that - given every single bit of it was leaked - there was nothing whatsoever new in the announcement. It was like we all knew every next word!
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
You planning to have it sent to your hotel or try to pick it up in store?
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
Sony Xperia Z1: the new flagship with imaging at its heart (hands-on)
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Nice phone.. but it's just way way too big ...

More interested in Z1 mini
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Is there a IR sensor or I missed it in the presentation?
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
No IR sensor :(
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Anyone know why the "PORT] Xperia Honami Camera app with new Image processing v3, fully working!! [1/07" topic was removed?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2346319

edit: ah..removed on request of Sony.

I was just wondering whether all the Z1 features will come to Z/ZL... like InfoEye and Socialstream for facebook...

Since these are only software features.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Nor 4K video recording or wireless charging.

But those dots on the left hand side are for a dock, right? Of course you'll need a new dock - which will probably take ages to get released and cost about $50!
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
Now, i guess the underwhelmed part comes to play? what happened to the rumored 4K video ? i am surprised to read that it does not support 4K and if you had seen the rest of presentation Sony was pushing 4K like mad on all the other products!
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
But still there is something below the camera in landscape mode..
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
like what?
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Maybe via firmware update or maybe they are saving that feature for the Spring 2014 refresh. Not a huge deal to me really. It would have been nice just for bragging rights. :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
ha ha ha true and i would want to go back to the docs leaked yesterday and do a itemized comparison to find the underwhelmed list :)
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
If they announced 4k then there will be nothing much left for 2014 next flagship, I guess!
[Xperia Z General] Mythusme:
I want to hear Z1 speaker sound quality!!!! :(

Does it improved or not, with the large speaker grill I expect someone whos got a hand-on on the device would test it, but

in every hand-on videos on youtube no one test it, not even talk about it :confused:
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Will Wait for 2014 Flagship

I am going to skip this Xperia Z1 - my Xperia Z is ok (only battery is problem)

I am looking for following features in 2014 flagship:

1. 5.3 - 5.5 edge to edge display with awesome screen.

2. Same camera as Z1

3. S-Master Chip

4. 4K like all other Sony products

5. IR Blaster

6. 4000maH battery

And Sony please change your default wallpaper - it looks so washed out !!
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I'm going to be seeing it tomorrow, so I'll try and check this out - and if I possibly can, depending on how noisy it is, I'll compare with my XZ.
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Just see the backplane for qx100 or qx10... Look closely around the phone camera...
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
+1 lol

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you are soo lucky!
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Going to buy one as soon as it's available :)
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Xperia Z1 Price in Germany €649 Confirmed.

Xperia Z1 Price in Germany €649 confirmed. ( Official price )

via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/09/04/xperia-z1-official-price-germany-e649-selling-starts-september/

Available later this month as mentioned by Sony - http://creative.sonymobile.com/xperialive/presse-eintrag/das-beste-von-sony-fur-dich/
[Xperia Z General] DarrenT:
Just pre ordered my Z1 from EE in the UK. Get the Smartwatch 2 as well which I'll probably sell if I can.

Had a One X so this will be nice!
[Xperia Z General] the_mouse_bg:
Finally the Z1 uses an IPS screen!!! ...hopefully on the global model :)... *cough* docomo *cough*

"The result is a handset that has slick, warm-feeling edges that’s also waterproof – up to 30 minutes in 1.5m deep freshwater, meeting IP55 and IP58 standards – but which fits the hand nicely, despite the 5-inch display. That panel is running at Full HD 1080p, too, and uses a Sony IPS TFT LCD with the company’s BRAVIA engine for better quality graphics; it has great viewing angles, and the colors both pop out but are accurate, too."

*couldn't post a link since I'm a new member. Google a part of the text to get to the source of it...
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Here ya go.

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-z1-hands-on-04296169/
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
launching & available in retail for India from 18th of Sept :)
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
If a lot of people want me to get it I might get it :)

So that are the thoughts on this? :p
[Xperia Z General] bpm2000:
Damn, S-master addition would have made this thing untouchable for me.
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Any offers like free smartwatch 2 or those small cameras???
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
trying to find that out ;)
[Xperia Z General] PaulFernxp:
I heard O2 UK were offering a QX10 camera lens with pre orders...
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Yeah, someone posted this a few pages back.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
So... Hmmm IR Remote is missing right? *Sigh* I think I wasted my time learning the IR SDK for nothing... What's the use of that SDK if it's only useable on a single freaking phone with a buggy IR Reciever. >.<
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
A few concerns... if anybody knows the answers to the following questions, please let me know.

- How is the screen outside? Is it visible unlike the Z?

- How is the sound quality?

- How is the battery life?

- Is there a new Xperia UI overlay or is it using the same one from the Z?

Thanks
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Oh that ir is buggy in the ZL.. I was about to that. But gilded back when hearing the first news of z1/ honami
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Z, Z ultra next up, z1! :p

Sent from voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
So is the z1 the honami?
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
yes
[Xperia Z General] Mr. Droid:
This is tough, I want the big screen Xperia z ultra but this specs are better on the z1
[Xperia Z General] rezaswandira:
Z1 gonna replace my 2 years old arc S :D

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The dock is the same with Z Ultra's
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
I'm hurting more. I'm on the original Arc.
[Xperia Z General] mukeshc15:
today something new for sony xperia z

:fingers-crossed:

control your phone without touching it like s4 with Hovering Controls

here`s my link for it----->>> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2430539

:D:good:
[Xperia Z General] fareeed:
here are two pictures for from the ZU, against the HTC One and Z,

pic one

pic two

Watch this and this for more info about triluminos :)
[Xperia Z General] DarrenT:
O2 UK prices are now up

https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/sony/xperia-z1-black/

For 1GB data

On EE you can get onboard starting at £933.99 total for 24 months (will actually get your 2GB of data as they double it, if you only want 1GB then £869.99 is your lucky number.)

On O2 you can get onboard starting at £1077.99 total for 24 months