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[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
Anything on GSM is a joke. Everytime a friend calls me on his AT&T iPhone the conversation ends with his end dropping. Every single time. He "Upgraded" from T-Mobile. I never get a dropped call with a land line or with another Sprint or Verizon person on the other end.

The ONLY thing better is Verizon and it would cost more, quite a bit more.

Unlimited Mobile to any Mobile on any carrier doesn't exist on Verizon.

Verizon does not offer unlimited data.

I can drive from Boston to Central NH for 2 hr's tethered to my Laptop over VPN to my work running Remote Desktop and never skip a beat the whole way. That's good enough Data for me.

Sprint doesn't cripple their devices like Verizon has in the past and will probably continue to do. I loved how they didn't allow enabling the GPS for years.
[HTC EVO 3D] scariola:
While you do have one point, its against att.

I can tell you from experience that the ONLY IPHONES that DROP calls run on the AT&T network.

Having used iPhone on T-Mobile, never once had a dropped call.

Honestly, tmobile's speeds are much faster on average then att, if you are around a large city. Even in hawaii, my friends att iPhone got edge, ny tmobile phone had 4 bars and 3G.

Att is the WORST example of a GSM network, I have referred people from them to T-Mobile, and they have never looked back.

I mean customer service is where they shine, 3 minutes to talk to someone on T-Mobile during busy hours, att, 37 minutes my friend waited on hold.

I pulled a rep on the phone so quick, he now referrs people away towards T-Mobile too. Not to mention its much cheaper, and iPhones will be on T-Mobile 3g with the new spectrum by years end.

Att couldn't gobble up T-Mobile, otherwise I'd probably had came over to sprint. :rolleyes:

My phone can surf and talk with tethering and driving around. Only 4g gets you simultaneous calls AND data. Probably the biggest advantage to me. 30 dollars gets how much at sprint? Unlimited minutes , texts, 5gb of data monthly no taxes and contract?

I wait to see when I can find a way to lower my bill again, lol.

Google + pertinent info = Results!!
[HTC EVO 3D] scariola:
Google + pertinent info = Results!!
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
You need to compare apples to apples. T-Mobile site says $80.00

There are special deal on all carriers.

My wife is still on a $30.00 plan, unlimited data, unlimited text, 500 min.

Walking into the Mall and comparing plans, Sprint Wins.

They ALL have deals.

I'm sorry I would never trust GSM outside the city. It just does not work in too many places. Only CDMA phones work at my wifes work. And roaming on GSM up in the NH mountains is impossible (where I have cabin). No GSM phones work where my friend works either (which is a large university).

You need 10x more GSM towers than CDMA. If you have the towers it's fine. But as soon as you get away from the city they place towers based on most bang for the buck and you get holes everywhere.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
If you think fios is bad try having Comcast the only cable provider in your area... Rip off prices and a 250gb data cap each month...

Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I guarantee if I call you from my Sprint Evo 3D my phone will eventually drop the call, lol. Sprint totally blows around here. They used to be decent, but they have really gone downhill.

Also, I saw your other post about Sprint being cheaper than T-Mobile. You might want to double check your facts on that. Here is a post I made fairly recently in another thread:
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
You're comparing apples and oranges. It's like comparing the price of owning a car by a lease vs buying.

You're comparing prepaid plans (no contract). So T-Mobile makes a bunch of money off the phone because it's not discounted like it is on contract plans. You need to compare total ownership. Or compare other prepaid plans.

I've seen what GSM does, it works in some areas but not nearly as well in less than odeal conditions (mountains, rural, steel frame buildings etc.).
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Sounds like an excuse to me, lol. T-Mobile is cheaper, period. I am not debating WHY T-Mobile is cheaper, only pointing out that they ARE cheaper.

I'm happy Sprint works well in your area. See any nationwide independent study though and you will see that you are in a small minority. Sprint blows in most areas right now.
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
There are only two choices. CDMA Sprint or CDMA Verizon. Sprint is slower cheaper, Verizon is Faster and more expensive.

And Sprint LTE is fairly early on Sprint's list.

I will never get a GSM phone, ever. Unless all CDMA providers go bankrupt.

If Sprint goes bankrupt, I'll go Verizon. I would not even look at any GSM provider.
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
You want studies here is one.

I live in the Northeast.

T-Mobile is LAST.

http://businesscenter.jdpower.com/news/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2010174
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
If you are creating artificial limits for yourself, then you are only hurting yourself. If you would never even consider a phone just because it's GSM, then you are the one missing out in the end.

The GSM service is actually much better than CDMA. You can argue that the coverage sucks, but if you have coverage the actual service is much better,

I was just reading in a different thread how on the Sprint Evo 3D if you 3 way call someone, you can't just drop one of the callers, you have to disconnect everyone. Why is this? Because it's a limitation of CDMA.

On my old Touch Pro 2 on AT&T I could call someone, get another call on call waiting, merge those calls together, conference in someone else, and have up to 6 people on the call at once. I could add and drop these calls 1 by 1 as I saw fit, while keeping everyone else on the call. Of course, I could also just disconnect everyone if I wanted to.

In addition to that, I could swap my SIM card into any other phone I wanted and have control over what phone I used. I wasn't limited to some AT&T branded phone.

And this was several years ago. It's a shame that several years later CDMA networks are limited to only 3 people on a conference call, and you can't even drop one of the parties without disconnecting the whole call. I don't think you can merge in callers from call waiting into a conference call either. (and don't get me started on using data while on a voice call)

Again, if you refuse to try GSM just because it's GSM, then you're the one missing out.

By the way, LTE is the next generation GSM. So you will use it one way or the other eventually.

Oh yeah, and if you want to talk about bad coverage in buildings and needing too many towers and such, see Sprint's Wimax.

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That is 2 years old, lol. All of the networks are a lot different these days.

Here's one from a year ago:

http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011

Here's one from a month ago:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2538...peed_showdown_which_networks_are_fastest.html

Sprint is dead last in both 3G and 4G, upload and download.
[HTC EVO 3D] scariola:
I've had T-Mobile almost 10 years now, and when I worked for sprint last year, I KEPT my T-Mobile line, cause sprints data speed was 0.18 mbps.

Even though the phone service was free as an employee, I couldn't sacrafice steady 5mbps download on T-Mobile anytime.

It does depend on where you live, but seriously even as a tech who repaired phones, sprint was appauling as a service provider. Oh and customer service? Lol, I'd rather have a guy from India talking to me.
[HTC EVO 3D] zcink:
Been using GSM for many years with no problems at all.

I use both T-Mobile and Att in my Evo 3D and they both work great!

use one of there here doohickeys:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Sim-...568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c2396f98

A year ago I ordered an EVO 3D from Sprint with a two year contract. Could not get a signal at my house. Drove about a mile toward town and get a very weak signal. Anyway Sprint took it back and cancelled contract with no problems.

Att and T-Mobile are great!

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[HTC EVO 3D] ThunderStick:
I've tried them all over the past few years. Verizon definitely the best ad far ad coverage goes. Super expensive though. T-Mobile was good when I had a connection, which was rare. I live in Milwaukee, wi but when I left the city I got nothing for data just outside the city. No coverage at all north of the green bay area, which was the reason I switched carriers.

I tried att ad well with similar results as tmobile.

Sprint I have not tried for tried for a long time, but I can say I had a boost phone for awhile that uses the sprint network and it never dropped calls and nearly always had a signal.

I love threads like this simply because feedback from users is useful if you can separate the fanboys from the truth tellers.

Truth be told I'm no fanboy of any service provider, there all way to freaking expensive for this cheap ass bastard.
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
It's a PHONE first. That's wireless SPEEDS. I get 1.2-1.8mb (not blazing, but fine for my needs and most people).

The Voice network has not changed in quite sometime. Data has changed.

I would not trade reliable 20mb data unlimited for lower call quality.

The J.D. Powers survey was much more thorough, was based on Voice and done by region. Show me something as in depth, and I'll have a look. But it has to include VOICE and by region. Because it does vary a lot.

You can see T-Mobile does well in some areas. It does terrible in my area. Worse than AT&T if that's possible. The chart was exactly what I expected, based on my own experience and seeing what friends have (in this region). Verizon on top, Sprint no far behind. T-Mobile and AT&T at the bottom.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
The voice networks absolutely have changed since 2 years ago, lol. And if you don't think 3G speeds have any indication of what you can expect for voice quality, then there is not much I can tell you. Consider this though, 3G IS the voice network. And, again, yes, Sprint's (and AT&T and T-Mobile) have absolutely made major changes to their voice coverage since 2 years ago. T-Mobile has been doing one of the most aggressive network upgrades in history, while Sprint has got a lot worse.

Sprint used to have an agreement that allowed them to use Alltel's network like it was native Sprint. That is no longer the case. They also used to have an agreement with Verizon that allowed Sprint customers to roam on their network basically whenever they wanted at little cost to Sprint. That is no longer the case.

If you haven't seen any of the many, many articles talking about Sprint's network going downhill, then you really are behind the times.

Like I previously said, I'm happy that Sprint is as good as ever for you and better than anyone else could ever possibly be. Just know that you are in a very small minority. Test after test in article after article has shown that Sprint is dead last in most areas. And I personally can barely get a Sprint signal at all anymore, whereas my Sprint service was just fine 2 years ago.

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I found JD Power's rankings for this year:

http://www.jdpower.com/content/pres...etwork-quality-performance-study-volume-1.htm

Sprint is dead last, even in the northeast region. This is the same study you posted, only it's for this year and not 2 years ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] zcink:
Very interesting stuff. Sort of gland now that I could not get a Sprint signal.

I really wanted the Unlimited internet but what good is unlimited internet if you can't use it?

I used to have T-Mobile unlimited internet for $20.00 per month but they've since cancelled that deal. Its was not 3G at that time but still pretty fast.
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
What I posted was Call Quality. What you posted is total Network Performance. I can't find a call quality for 2012. They may have changed it.

Here is 2011. T-Mobile still at the bottom in most regions.

http://businesscenter.jdpower.com/news/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2011023

I doubt call quality has changed that much in a year.

Voice is not 3G (EVDO). May be it is on GSM, but not on CDMA.

Yes, Sprint has lost ground on Data performance. No news there.

But I suspect it will recover once LTE rolls out.
[HTC EVO 3D] Ascertion:
No one calls Bill Gates to tell him "Thanks, my computer worked great today!" He only hears from you when there's a problem. It's just how the world works.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
You can't say "It's a phone first" and act like voice service is all that matters, and then a couple posts later say total network performance doesn't matter. If it's a phone first, as you say, then I would think voice service is a big (the biggest) factor in total network performance.

And EVDO is cdma. They are not 2 separate things. EVDO is an upgraded CDMA.
[HTC EVO 3D] scuzzbag87:
Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere

That signature is too funny

Not sure if being real or being sarcastic
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
I never said total Network performance doesn't matter. But I did say it's a phone first and that's why J.D. Powers does a seperate survey for call quality and another for total network performance that combines data speed, data reliability and call quality. The Data performance on Sprint does bring down it's total Network performance. But Call quality which is important to some people and Sprint is still #2 in the Northeast Region on call quality.

Data is not great for Sprint compared to others but it gets the job done for me. If I wanted better I could pay for it by going to Verizon. I might get better Data with T-Mobile but I would get worse call quality.

If Voice and Data were the same for all carriers then T-Mobile and Sprint would not be flipping positions based on Voice vs Network Performance.

I hate to clue you but EVDO DOES not do voice. The "D" in EVDO is for Data.

If you want to read about it:

http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/3gpp2/cdma2000-1xrtt-basics-tutorial.php

See ya on EVO 4G LTE forum :)
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
First off, you have no data that indicates Sprint is first in ANYTHING right now. You posted something that showed Sprint being first 2 years ago. We all know Sprint was much better 2 years ago than they are today.

2 years ago Sprint was in the later stages of a network upgrade (and the only carrier with 4G).

Since that time Sprint has got a whole lot worse, and every other carrier has got a whole lot better (upgrading their own networks).

Every bit of data that either one of us can find for THIS YEAR shows Sprint dead last. Even the JD Power that you originally posted from 2 years ago shows Sprint dead last this year.

You can hide from the truth all you want. You're just playing semantics at this point. The very same study you used to claim Sprint was number 1, actually has Sprint dead last this year. And every single study done this year also has Sprint dead last (and I've posted 3 of them now).

Also, EVDO IS CDMA. Did you read the lino you posted? It is a technology upgrade for CDMA networks.

Please post something relevant to the times are currently living in that claims Sprint is number one. Either that our please stop making this ridiculous claim. Just about every Sprint customer out there knows their Service was a LOT better when the Evo 4G launched than it is today. You posting studies from when the Evo 4G launched is totally irrelevant today. However, I posted 3 studies from this year, and they all had Sprint dead last.

Not trying to offend you, but it's laughable that you claim voice service is the only important thing since it's a phone first, Sprint has the best voice service, Sprint also has good enough data service, but the "good enough" data service is actually so bad that it drops the best rated voice service to dead last in overall network performance.

I'd like to know how you got their formula first off, and secondly why their formula puts so little importance on voice calls (if you are correct in that the best overall voice service is dead last in overall network performance, even though their data is supposedly decent).
[HTC EVO 3D] beefydoc:
Sprint is the Bomb

Sorry to jump in here, but the thread is called, "I Love Sprint."

I started with Sprint last summer when the Evo 3D came out. I had been on Verizon for close to 10 years. I went from a family plan on Verizon with 1400 shared minutes limited texting on 2 smartphones with unlimited data and 1 feature phone with unlimited texting. Depending on fees and overages I would pay anywhere from $240-280/month. Now on Sprint, I have a Family Plan with 1200 shared minutes spread over 4 smartphones all with unlimited data and texting for $215 a month.

All you Sprint haters out there need to realize that some of us are very happy with Sprint. In my area, the coverage I get is even better than I had with Big Red. To top it off, the 4-5 times I have had to call customer service have all been extremely positive experiences. Never have I had better customer service from any utility.The first couple of times I thought I just got lucky with who I reached at customer service, but I have had all very good experiences.

In the interest of full disclosure, I own a small business, so my account is a business account. I may get a better quality customer service rep willing to do more for me than with a personal account. Regardless, after almost a year I couldn't be happier. My son's line (we got him an original Evo last June at $0 when we started with Sprint the day the 3D came out) has already qualified for an upgrade, and I'll be eligible to upgrade my Evo 3D line (primary) on my 1 year anniversary with Sprint at the end of June.

I understand Sprint seems to have some coverage problems in some areas, but for me, "What's not to love." Great coverage (including 4G) in my area, saving about $50/month, great customer service experience, great upgrade schedule. Also my city is scheduled for the 2nd wave of LTE later this year (barring delays). So i'll hold that upgrade until LTE launches and get the latest greatest LTE device available at that time. I have made plenty of mistakes, but moving to Sprint was not one of them. Couldn't be happier.
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
I never said Sprint was #1 at anything as far as these surveys go. They are number #1 as far as I'm concerned for price/performance for my needs.

I did post a 2nd Survey on CALL QUALITY in 2011 (which is the latest I can find and I believe available) and Sprint is still #2 on Call Quality as of a year ago.

Has things changed on call quality today. I don't know, maybe. I have not had any issues with call quality. There are two dead spots on my commute if I have the phone in my pocket. If I have in the car dock I can have a conversation from driveway to driveway. This is simply impossible for any GSM phone I have ever tried.

I can also have a VPN connection with Remote Desktop from my house in MA to my cabin in NH for 2 hours and not lose my session until I enter go through a dead spot in the town my cabin is in (but the cabin is ok). I go in and out of 3G on my trip. And stays running. Again absolutely impossible with any GSM phone I tried.

And like the above post. I really try to avoid calling sprint. It has been frustrating in the past. But the last few times (one of them being what started this thread) and another last night upgrading my wifes line has been extremely pleasant. Last 3 experiences have been great.

They replaced my phone with no insurance, on the spot, for $35.00 AND IT WAS MY FAULT and should not have been covered. It was rooted and I flash incorrect firmware that corrupted the phone. And it was not even a refurb and he gave it to me instantly.

They allowed me to use my wifes upgrade on my line so I could get the LTE for $199. They really don't have to offer that especially on SERO accounts.

I upgraded my wifes line to SERO Premium and it was a very pleasant experience. First thing he asked for was a call back number in case we got disconnected. It was late last night and was english speaking. Of course this is expected. But the above two were above the call of duty. They also don't have to offer the SERO Premium upgrade either, but they do. I was concerned they may eventually not allow this. My wife was on the original SERO.

I was testing DATA at work on 3G and it was pretty slow (I rarely actually use it at work because I have it on WIFI). For grins I turned on 4G WiMax, and dog gone it, it worked!! Just in time for LTE to arrive, ugh.

There is rumor the EVO LTE does simultanious voice and Data. Only time that annoyed me is while Google Navigating and chatting with someone and not getting a Map update until I hang up.
[HTC EVO 3D] xeper:
I'm on Sprint and AT&T (Sprint for 2 years and AT&T for about 6 months)

I have to say, Sprint looks better on paper. Far better. In practice, they've been nothing but spotty for me, and I'm actually aging out of my two-year contract on my OG Evo in a few months. I have to keep my Evo 3D on for another 9-10 months (gave it to my son when I got my One X this week), but after that, if he wants a new phone, I'll likely ditch Sprint altogether.

In the past two years with Sprint (living in San Diego, Sacramento and working in San Jose and Orange County as well):

I've never found one site that reliably had 4G that wasn't at a Sprint store. I've lived and worked in very populous places (see above) and had literally no 4G at any of them for more than fleeting moments at a time (would work one day, not the next, work somewhat part of the day, not the rest, etc.)

Network/internet speeds are laughable on 3G and 4G (when and where you can find it). I can get 600K if I'm really lucky at home, 1M at work, sometimes, but it's very very spotty and the speeds are never that high the whole time I'm using data. (I used to pay for hotspot on two phones, I cancelled and have very rarely used it afterwards on modified ROMs)

Voice service always sounds like I'm in a tin can. Three phones so far and it's always the same, the person on the other end can't understand me, or I can't understand them. The call quality (when it's not dropping my calls over and over again) is abysmal.

Maybe AT&T will be no better in the long run, maybe I'll get sick of having to meter my downloads and hotspot usage, maybe the network will turn to **** when the next iPhone comes out. For now the service been far better than I'd ever expected. I get speeds of around 6M both at home and at work (currently Sacramento) and down in the SF Bay Area I've gotten 12M and higher at hotel rooms and just out and about. Non 4G data hasn't been an issue for me yet, because I haven't seen the indicator switch off once. The speeds have been absolutely consistent so far.

As for the voice, it sounds about as close to a land line as I've ever heard on a cell, it even sounds good coming through my car's sound system. On my Sprint phones I have to pull over to have a conversation and even then, road noise drowns out the call.

Just my few cents.
[HTC EVO 3D] gilbydakid:
That's sucks for the ones who have crappy service.

I'm loving sprint, ever since I got my spare Anker batteries 4g hasn't been turned off since (unless I'm at home using wifi).

Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
There is no need to be a ***** about sprint. If you don't get good service try another carrier. Sprint perfect where I live and work

Sent via XDA Premium
[HTC EVO 3D] a5ehren:
Sprint works fine for what I need now since I get WiMax coverage, but I'll probably switch when my contract is up next year.
[HTC EVO 3D] jyan_osu:
I do have to say they've been very good to me. I just dropped my phone and bent the bezel. Took it in yesterday and they replaced it in an hour. They didn't have any black ones so now I have a silver front and black back. Buy very nice of them to get it fixed nevertheless. And I do have TEP for those that wonder.