yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Well, I suppose one theory is that companies are taking longer to get ICS out on their devices because they have some of their people working on JB at the same time?

Well, I suppose we have another few months to go until we get any more info on this, barring more leaks of course
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Samsung Galaxy S3 pre order started in Singapore, hurry up Sony!!!

Release Xperia GX globally ASAP if you really want some market share..
[Xperia Z General] ronijs19:
Google I/O in the end of next mounth.

Sony event almost the same time.

Then we see all truth abouth JB, next Nexus phone, (phones, tablets) Xperia GX internacional

Hope there bee big suprises for somting realy good.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Xperia GX low light sample photos:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/19/first-xperia-gx-sample-photo-pics/

Imo the pics are just average (too much noise). I've expected much better results from the newly developed CMOS sensor. Maybe we have to wait for the final FW.

Here are some size comparisons pictures between Xperia S, Arc and GX:

http://sonyviet.vn/2012/05/xperia-gx-do-dang-arc-s-xperia-s/
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I donno why but XPERIA S is looking better !!! :rolleyes:

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[Xperia Z General] zymo:
That is a matter of taste. I for one prefer the design of the Arc and especially the one of the GX :D It really looks stunning.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I just got the info that Xperia S new stock (without yellow screen problem) comes in a slimmer box...

Is this true???

Trying to find some pics!!!

EDIT: there is a THREAD already, CLICK HERE for details (for those who still want XS)

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[Xperia Z General] cikomiko:
dude stop the spamming, srsly.

it has nothing to do with gx/hayabusa and there is already a thread for the new package... .
[Xperia Z General] androidlover20:
thanks for the info, just returned the bigger BOX 2days back, waiting for nex XS and GX as well
[Xperia Z General] pitamus:
The hayabusa will have a 2200mah battery 4.55 inch display and snapdragon s4 pro

Source

http://m.cnet.com/news/57423216
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
That was an old rumor. But the GX/Hayabusa isn't a rumor anymore and the specs are well known now. Maybe the MINT will have that CPU.
[Xperia Z General] Efe64:
Lol dude

Sony already released the specs.

Maybe look to the date then post?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
LOL, rumour/news dated 27th April :D

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[Xperia Z General] pitamus:
*facepalm*

Soz didn't read the whole thread
[Xperia Z General] celsior360:
http://www.xperiablog.net/

This is quite a cool blog!
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Thanks. I assume you are a noob? :)
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Seems a good move, the Z has passed its peak sales time, especially now the S4 is out.

This keeps the performance yet makes for a more compact and durable handset.

Hopefully priced lower too!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
5 phones is too much ??????????

Sony is not Apple to survive by selling just 1 phone in a year.

While I understand Z owners may feel bad, but Sony is not running a charity. They need to consolidate market share and make money, they can't do that by releasing 1 phone per year.

Besides, these are just mid range phones.

And the Honami is in a higher league compared to Z, so basically Z owners have nothing to worry about as for the same price point as Z Sony isn't launching any other phone. Only phones below or above Z
[Xperia Z General] TechLife:
I don't know how much this Help to Those who saying Xperia Honami is Just Rumor or who are waiting for This Giant Smarphone,

But its Correct that Sony is working on Xperia Honami & its Sure the Honami Support Snapdragon 800 Processor. Chill Guys :victory:

Although Xperia Honami Camera is just creating A suspense.Hope So its Screen Quality is not Like Xperia Z,TFT

Source Wikipideia

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I'm laughing that Sony Till not Learn about Its Experience of TFT Dislikes, They Announce ZR with same TFT :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Cm'on dont try to justify what Sony is doing and Sony can never be Apple if they continue like this!!

The day when Samsung will learn to make stylish/premium Galaxy devices, even a fanboy like me will ditch Sony.

I mean its ridiculous to have 5 phones within 2months which are more or less same.

If I were Sony, I would have combined all features of these 5 phones and released these phones:

Xperia Z 5“

Xperia Z 4.5“

Xperia Tablet Z 10“

Xperia Tablet Z 8"

And in September/October another phablet with 6" display with rumoured Honami specs!!!

sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

Sorry but that won't take Sony anywhere. You saw what happened to HTC with 1 model approach. You can't build market share and earn money with just 2 phones in market. Especially for a company like Sony that needs to turn around soon and make profits to survive it will be a suicide to follow your suggestion.

I appreciate your opinion but you must understand that Sony is running a business and you can't just give away the smartphone business like that after spending 1 billion dollars on buying out Sony Ericsson.

Having 5 phones allows Sony a greater chance at attracting customers and help increase its market share. Not to mention the unified architecture of the phones - krait s4 doesn't cause any issues with software updates and also saves development costs
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Lets see on development/updates front wat Sony will offer this year, I hope our Xperia Z dont get the treatment like Xperia S!!

If Sony really wanna improve or gain customers confidence this time, better update the XZ by June end.

sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Sony need more than 1 phone, they just need 1 style, not the weird Sony Ericsson Mash ups, but they need to replace all those phones with the New style.
[Xperia Z General] Why So Serious?:
New UI already?!

I can't imagine Sony would only use the current UI for just half a year? I'm hoping the IPS display is true though.
[Xperia Z General] styxter:
Agree!!!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Sony Xperia Z has got new updates - go check and report !!

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Oh come on, Samsung releases not twice but trice as much phones as Sony and this keeps them alive. They sold the most phones in 2013 before even S4 came out. They sell A LOT low and mid range phones. And samsung is ridiculous with all their versions of phones. There are, how many S3 phone versions, 10?

Sony is just keeping the interest for buying Sony with plenty versions to choose. Not all want 5" high end device so some will buy SP or something else. Choise is good to have.
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
I agree with you

Sony also focus in marketing its phones to middle east and some southeast Asian countries where low and medium range phones are highly desirable.

Sony thinks global like many other manufacturers.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
how about XPERIA ZR coming out in June?
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
It's going to be a killer combination...

Snapdragon S4 Pro Quad pumping only 720p screen! In my opinion that resolution is optimal in such small devices (compared to big LCD panels)...

It will surely be right at the top in most gaming benchmarks...
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
it's also IP58 with physical button, so taking shot under water shouldn't be a problem. spec looks to be superior and more comfortable than Z in many aspect.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Seriously except for the looks - ZR is real Flagship !! Bizzare strategies of Sony :banghead:

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
Does it have a removeable battery as well?
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
ZR has removable battery
[Xperia Z General] ionmarx:
Same question here. Been reading on ZR past few days, some say it's non-removable, some say it's not. Although it's likely, based on the recent Xperia lineups, ZR will have a non-removable battery. Which is fine, as power banks seem to be the norm as of late ;)
[Xperia Z General] E!ch0:
He has removable one check this out bro;)

http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/c5502/whitepaper_EN_c5502_xperia_zr.pdf

Still here;)

N!geR --> E!ch0
[Xperia Z General] ionmarx:
Wow nice!! Really excited for this. I hope a replacement battery is sold affordably as well :D
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
Still sounds strange, removeable battery in a water proof phone!
[Xperia Z General] championswimmer:
seen an Xperia V ??
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
:chanting: AT&T, AT&T, AT&T, AT&T, AT&T... :chanting:
[Xperia Z General] katamari201:
Choice is good. But lets face the facts. Any company, including Sony, has a limited number of resources. Dividing it among a dozen different smartphones at once, and multiple flagship phones, is how things start turning into ****. Testing, fine tuning, polishing, major innovation, software updates, you name it, goes to ****. HTC was in the red last year, and they decided to focus on their ONE hero phone for 2013. Not everyone likes the HTC One, but it has a unique aluminum body, unique camera, the best mobile display around, and is guaranteed to receive timely updates since their software department isn't divided between multiple models and they won't suddenly abandon something they created a few months ago for a newer, prettier love interest.

Sony is known for rushing out old, outdated, and numerous phones. Just look at 2012 with the Xperia S, then Ion, then T. The Xperia Z was another rushed product with a lot of half baked ideas. The water/dust proof glass design is great, but the 1080p screen is awful, and the new Exmor RS camera is so poorly implemented that even Samsung is laughing at Sony's incompetence, because the Galaxy S4 uses the exact same sensor with far superior results. Lets not forget the already obsolete S4 Pro and the sluggish dual-core esque phone performance and there you have a MILLION reasons to stop screwing around with multiple models and instead raise one big, fat, healthy baby instead of multiple neglected siblings.

Releasing more phones doesn't mean they will sell. They could be all duds and drive your company bankrupt.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Only if you buy from somewhere else. AT&T isn't picking up a Sony phone this year. Unless they change their minds again about honami.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Most android users are unaware that their firmware is outdated so they don't care for timely updates, just that the phone works well out of the box
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Xperia z camera quality can be improved by update.

And it all goes down to this: sony made profit this year so 2012 phones sold well while HTC is going lower and lower. HTC one was something else but people will forget about it soon.

And with sony having profit there can be only improvments. If honami will be what we expect it to be even samsung can be afraid.
[Xperia Z General] RoChinu:
If sony can get the software department right it will wipe the floor with all current devices. 2.3 GHZ Quad-core, 13MP+, Carl Zeis lens, 3000mah battery and waterproofing is overkill.

Apple has a lot of catching up to do in the hardware department. Most likely they'll release iPhone 5S around September, around the same time Honami is rumoured to release. Considering iPhone 5 has a 1.2 GHZ dual core processor, 1GB Ram and an 8MP camera its unlikely they will upgrade the device on par with the Xperia Honami, more like they'll have something similar to XZ hardware wise.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Yes, and the biggest selling point of honami - big ass camera sensor. They have an opportunity to wipe out competition.

I really hope that honami will come from sony not just sony mobile.

And rumors about having deticated sony imaging sensor are also really awesome to hear.

If all rumors will be true I know I'm buying one.
[Xperia Z General] Toledo_JAB:
AT&T is only good for cheap LOCKED down phones.

For a true flagship model experience, you need to have unlocked bootloader.

After saying that, through AT&T I paid a total of 2 US pennys for both my XPERIA X10 and my XPERIA ION, Locked but CHEAP :D
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
that simply means AT&T will have to work really hard to retain XPERIA users. the only reason I didn't get TL is because AT&T put an ugly logo on it...

---------- Post added at 11:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 PM ----------

some sony internal said that such sensor doesn't exist even within sony, so the sensor part of honami may be fake. don't get your hope too high.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
If you are right and they will release same sensor just with more mp it will be a huge mistake.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
2/3" CMOS camera sensor along with xenon flash is confirmed.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Really? Nice:D

There goes my plan "not buying new phone in near future" :P
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
I doubt that they will include xenon flash... It's a huge battery killer...
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Didn't notice that on my k850 ;) hehe.

It had a LED for autofocus purposes also. Perhaps they could let users choose between LED and XENON.
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
I had massive battery drain when using xenon flash on my Nokia N82.... Damn I can't believe I used that Symbian CRAP-phone for 2 years... Thank God I bought the Xperia X10 and started my android journey... :)
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
It is confirmed by randomuser, he leaked the specs of the Z almost 3 months before launch.:p

Also, the BIONZ hardware chip may be included (I have no idea what it is, just that it makes the camera better). May be included. Not confirmed.

Also, the display is VA, not IPS with 178 degrees viewing angles. It may be IGZO.

In terms of specs, Sony's going to wipe the floor with the other OEM's this year.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Bionz is a dedicated imaging processor. Improves capturing time, speed of autofocus, saving image time, quality etc. Sure would be nice to have it :)
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
this phone sounds better and better, I hope Sony can improve on their software updates. Then I can forget about every other phones.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
It is bigger battery hogger but gives better lightning and freezes image because it's way faster than led. But I also wish that there would be both xenon and led. Led is always useful.
[Xperia Z General] zzcool:
i've never wanted a phone as much as this one

i find it hard to beleive they can improve the xperia z as it was already perfect all that needed to be changed would be hardware adding stereo speakers but the z was perfect i miss that phone i used to have it untill i returned it for a scratch i decided not to get it again as i thought it as too late
[Xperia Z General] thunderising:
Honami might end up 13mm thick like Satio
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
That Will be okay at least for me so I can feel it in my hand:D
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Sony Honami rumored specs:

5" 1920x1080 VA panel 2000:1 typical CR, X-Reality Engine

MSM8974 2.3 ghz, Adreno 330

2 GB RAM

32 GB Internal Storage

Micro SD clot

3000mAh typical battery Lithium Ion

12/13 MP 2/3" CMOS Camera with LED Flash + Xenon, Focus Tracking, BIONZ Image processor

S-Master MX Audio amplifier

NFC

BT 4.0

Glass + Metal frame with Carbon Fiber inserts

IP 5/7 water dust resistant

Camera Shutter Key dual stage

~12mm thick (Thanks Aurelius)

Stereo Speakers

Global 4G LTE

Android 4.2.2

All credits go to randomuseresato
[Xperia Z General] thunderising:
CPU clock speed might end up lesser than 2.3 GHz

2930 mAh battery
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
It is 2930 minimum and 3000 typical. I am unaware of the difference between typical and minimum :)

I don't think it'll be lesser than 2.3 GHz. Doubtlessly, [MENTION=5096722]randomuseresato[/MENTION] might know more.
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
Any more info on the Togari, or whatever they're calling the rumored 6.44" device?
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
is Honami for global market or region specific, specs looks too good, would actually pay 700+ for this one if they are all true.
[Xperia Z General] thunderising:
Yup what you said is true. Yes the guy's a friend, know him personally!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
2930 mAh is the minimum charge capacity and 3000 is the typical charge capacity. Samsung, HTC, Nokia and all others advertise the typical capacity whereas Sony advertises minimum capacity.

So 2930 = 3000mAh.

There is no difference.It's a 3000 mAh battery but Sony doesn't advertise it as such. Just like in cars Volvo claims a top speed lower than what the car can actually reach. They might claim 220 but the car actually does 230.
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
Judging from Sony's past developer friendly stance and the introduction of Xperia S, Z and tablet Z to AOSP, how likely is it that Sony will release an Xperia Z Google Edition in the near future (at all?), just like Samsung with the S4 und HTC One did/are going to?!

Also, with the S4 Google Edition, is it necessary to buy it, or can any S4 be flashed to become a Google Edition? Would this also apply to a possible Xperia Z Google Edition? If so, what is the sense behind releasing a Google Edition?

With these Google Editions, are they going to receive the latest updates as fast as a Nexus would be? Any differences? Are these Nexus devices without being called so?

And lastly, what is the difference between let's say an Xperia Z AOSP and Xperia Z Google Edition?
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
If they do, we'll know about it earlier.

No idea. Can only be answered once a Dev gets his hands on the s4 ge.

Did Google say it will update the s4 ? If they did, it will receive updates as fast as nexus.

AOSP project phones will get updates by Google and therefore, will be faster. If the Google edition is simply stock Android, and Google doesn't give updates you'll be stuck with Sony giving those updates.
[Xperia Z General] pandaball:
Sony has already kind of released a "Xperia Z Google Edition" if one is willing to unlock the bootloader and do some legwork... they have their github project for AOSP. Granted, some things don't work out of the box, but with some more work you can get almost everything to work :)

The only thing that doesn't work apart from camera (which is finicky due to it being linked to a lot of subsystems in Android) is the modem. This is due to Qualcomm's draconian conditions with regards to their modem and RIL - pretty much the only thing standing between modem support right out of the box in AOSP and it being released to the public is the license Qualcomm imposed upon Sony. Sony has the modem working fine as seen in their demo video, but they cannot release it due to licensing restrictions by Qualcomm.
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
I am still confuse with AOSP, when google release new AOSP source to the public, its still require Sony to release an update to all the AOSP devices does it not? If Sony doesn't update anything, you will be stuck with old forever. Wasn't Xperia S part of AOSP program, did it even get the latest AOSP android?
[Xperia Z General] pandaball:
They would probably need to update the proprietary blobs and kernel which they have done (they just pushed new updates for the Xperia S for example, see https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/device-sony-lt26/commits/master)
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
XPERIA Pictures for All 2013/2013 Xperia By Me

Took Few Hours To Make It

All with Jelly Bean Screen

Except- A, UL,SX,GX,AX,VL,acro HD, E dual, tipo dual

[MENTION=3209425]xperiax10.awesome[/MENTION] you can add this photo at the 1st post.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Chinese website lists Sony Xperia i1 aka honami as upcoming device:

5" full HD

JB 4.2

Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2355Mhz

Qualcomm Andreno 330

2GB RAM

32GB ROM with MicroSD

3000mAh battery

20MP CMOS with Xenon flash + dual LED

http://product.pchome.net/mobile_phone_sony_honami/param_390545.html
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
QFT! Really lucky for us you bought a X10i :victory:

btw Xenon flash 4tw! Had one on my C905 but rarely used it ^^ so it won't drain battery if you don't use it! won't it ?

I'd rather have Sony DSLR CMOS engineers working on the software for the chip in honami than an extra BIONZ chip! First they messed up Superior Auto with to much noise reduction so all pictures look blurry at 100% but colorfull on a 5" screen! And now they fixxed that but noise reduction in low light isn't as good as before and everyone is still complaining :laugh:

But if all these rumors are true, it seems i'm getting a new phone ^^ maybe for christmas.
[Xperia Z General] katamari201:
Random Chinese website with plenty of salt aside, I hope it's Snapdragon 600 and not 800, because I want it sooner rather than later. There has yet to be any snapdragon 800 phones released, and since Sony is always late to the party (Xperia Z had an S4 Pro when everyone else was releasing a 600 a couple months later, Xperia T has 1.5ghz krait when even budget phones already had it), I don't want to wait until the holidays or even early 2014 for this phone. I honestly don't see the need for the 800 and 2+Ghz right now. The 600 is pretty overkill over the S4 Pro as it is. It's because Sony sucks at optimizing that the Xperia Z runs laggy. And the battery is also a concern with the 800. The most important thing is that they finally realize how AWFUL the poor viewing angle displays are in their entire Xperia line and finally commit to the 5" IPS they are using in their Japanese models.
[Xperia Z General] AnubisNefer:
I honestly couldn't care less about the viewing angles... You know why? Whenever I use my telephone, it is never in a certain degree where the screen quality is affected. I cannot even come up with a possibility why you would even want to view the screen from a certain angle!

So many people in crowded places looking over your shoulder or at your screen that I find it a major advantage that these screens have a certain "privacy-angle". Prefer the Sony screens much more than that overpowered, saturated Samsung screen.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Pertaining to your comment, I have some information :

1.) Sony had too much stock of S4 Pro. Hence the absence of SD600. All high ends starting with Honami will have SD800. Sd600 will not be used by Sony.

2.) No, not as much a concern as you're thinking. Snapdragons are more efficient than Exynos.

3.) Meh.

All credits to randomuseresato.
[Xperia Z General] pandaball:
"Sony sucks at optimizing"

wat
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
on the contrary, they are pretty good at it...
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
its better have a S800, since its 4K ready with Camera like that, theres a chance that it can shoot 4k video at 30Hz big selling point to some people..... and can be use for marketing; since Sony is hyping up 4K like what they did with 3D stuffs, it makes perfect sense to do so.The phone would be more future proof even if you get a 4k screen in 5 years and you would have a lot of 4K contents already....The screen is a big question mark is still the screen, rumors has it even Sony themselves are really disappointed at JDI, and have decided to ditch them (Crazy I know since they are part of it). They are currently looking at sharp IGZO display, might have to fight with Apple to secure stocks.... Read this from a sorce on Neogaf, everyone trust him with all the Sony insider stuffs.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
No, no, he was on Sony's side.:)
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
epic fail from my side... i didnt read his complete post :p
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
check this out:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p6.php

efficiency of snapdragon chipsets ;)
[Xperia Z General] RoChinu:
Wasn't the exynos version supposed to extend battery life by using the lower powered processor for lighter usage?
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Looks like it was just another Samsung gimmick to sell more phones…
[Xperia Z General] RoChinu:
Well, majority will be getting the Snapdragon anyway. ;)