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[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Don't think so - but maybe from a third party camera app? The hardware must be capable of doing a lot more than Sony has actually developed in its own camera app. Even with all the clever AR stuff and so on, it lacks a lot of the 'features' available on, say, a Samsung, HTC or Nokia. Things like dual shot, object removal etc.

Not saying those features are essential or even well used, but it's a little odd that Sony doesn't offer a bit more from its camera app.
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
i think some of that is going to change with apps within honami camera, which you'll be able to download additionally from play store...
[Xperia Z General] quaver84:
In the UK, the Z1 is popping up in store at 3. Had a 2 minute play and I've got to say, it's an amazing piece of tech. Super quick, no lags, amazing screen, it's gorgeous. Anyone who gets this is gonna be smiling for a long while! At least until the rumours for CES start that is.

Plus in Phones4U you can get a half price Tablet Z on preorder... Some good offers are around.
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
Ok here it goes

Camera comparison: Nokia Lumia 1020 vs Sony Xperia Z1

Spoiler : XZ1 wins against the Nokia 1020

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Xperia Z1 review
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
There are some very good offers, but please people - use your brains and do some calculations to see how much you're going to be paying over the whole contract term.

For one, most if not all of these deals are down to you signing for 24-months and probably on a fairly expensive tariff. Some also have a fairly hefty up-front fee for the handset, which is probably just covering off the cost of the 'free' gift.

I know the concept of free gifts has been around since the mid 1990s, but I don't recall any handset that has had so many competing offers on accessories for some time.

We've got the QX10 lens, the Smart Watch 2 or the NFC/wireless headphones, and the discounts on the Tablet Z. All interesting deals, but always compare against going down the SIM-free route and bagging a nice cheap SIM-only contract where you can then bounce around from operator to operator to get the best tariffs.

Come December, I can see tariffs being tweaked once Three enters the arena with 4G. Maybe not overnight, but imagine signing up to a 24-month deal on EE, O2 or Vodafone and they suddenly slash the cost per month, or double/triple or even do away with (unlikely I know) data limits! You'd be gutted.
[Xperia Z General] Rho'd Berth:
Where can I find more information about these honami camera apps?

That sounds like a great addition! I'm willing to pay extra money for some cool photography / video apps!
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
For start .. :) . We can expect more in future i guess

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.motiongraphforxperia&hl=en
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
First (?) review of the Z1.

http://www.tbreak.ae/reviews/sony-xperia-z1-review
[Xperia Z General] japjit100:
See the camera samples

http://m.connect.dpreview.com/post/7903063822/sony-xperia-z1-sample-gallery

It really impressive
[Xperia Z General] RuffaloBone:
The majority of these are fantastic. I can't wait to do some testing of my own next week. :)
[Xperia Z General] :
i dont care about 4.3 any more i want the new ui :eek:
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Camera comparison: how do the Sony Xperia Z1 and LG G2 fare against the competition?

Good job Sony!!!

And the winner is...

The Sony Xperia Z1. The Japanese company has seemingly found the post-processing balance that was sorely missing from the Xperia Z. In Superior Auto mode, its sensor churns out some great 8-megapixel images, the revised UI is enjoyable to use, and it placed top three in every round other than macro.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
It would have been nice to see the test done in 4:3 to allow the phone to use the full resolution (or slightly less in auto mode to allow for processing, but still higher than 8MP!).

I've switched my Xperia Z to 4:3 recently and it's quite a big jump from 9 to 13MP, but on the Z1 the jump from 8 to 20.7 is massive! That's an awful lot of pixels to be missing out on.
[Xperia Z General] asadkhanduhh:
what did your total come out to?

i am also in the u.s looking to purchase immediately.

the total @ handtec is saying : Grand Total	£944.28

is that not like 1400$USD?
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
did you change your country info to United States when processing the order? It will automatically take out the extra tax that only Europeans get charged.

The total should be only around $730 USD.
[Xperia Z General] expertzero1:
it was like 470 GBP/780 USD
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Xperia Z1 & Z1 mini
[Xperia Z General] ck.chunkeat:
According to the website, specs are :

720p，4.3", S800，2G RAM，8G ROM，2070W F2.0 Sony Lens G ，2014CES annoucing。
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
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[Xperia Z General] nizarnoor:
Announcement at the 2014 CES? I was hoping it would be sooner than that.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I thought so too, but Sony needs something for CES. And if it's going to move towards longer gaps between handsets (as it should) then it would make more sense to have this in January than rush out a Z2 that would really begin to annoy people. [What's more, wouldn't we already have details on it - Honami has been known about for ages?].

Of course I know every company will bring out new products and if you waited, you'd never get anything etc - but I don't think it makes sense to have a new flagship every six months. Especially when people are keeping their phones for longer, not just because of longer contracts but because people aren't so worried about changing.

Operators are also starting to dictate what manufacturers should make more and more.

It's not as if Sony won't be kept busy. They've got the need for some low-end phones for prepay/emerging markets, a mid-ranger (like the SP), the top end models (Z1/Z1 mini), the new Ultra range and then its tablets. Add on top a range of accessories (headphones, docks, speakers, Miracast boxes etc) and I think Sony has enough to keep it going!
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
For those in the US wanting a Z1 C6906 with AT&T LTE. It is up for pre-order for a whopping $899

http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Son...ERIA-Z1.HTML?gclid=COHB3ob_wLkCFcdxQgodjBUArw
[Xperia Z General] quaver84:
This is likely to stir things up! An idle google search of 'sony xperia z2' threw this one and only link out: http://m.thethao247.vn/can-biet/con...-so-huu-4-gb-ram-man-hinh-52-inch-d63904.html
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
looks like shopBLT has the HSPA+ model up for pre-order

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop...0U025L.shtml&sitem=BTE6571&order_id=614224452
[Xperia Z General] ImAnurag:
Xperia Z1 Dismantling / Tear Down

Xperia Z1 Dismantling / Tear Down done, all parts removed.

G Lens, processor chips exposed.

VIA - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/09/14/xperia-z1-dismantling-tear-down-all-parts-removed-g-lens-exposed/

Check below the set of pics.

REST 30 Photos here at this thread - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45567319#post45567319
[Xperia Z General] Mahesh89:
Xperia Z2(Avatar) spec leak

Xperia Z2 Codenamed "Avatar" Specs Leaked​

Specifications of Sony Xperia Z2 codenamed Avatar and having model number C770X has been leaked out by esato forums which are pretty accurate about upcoming Sony devices.The sources say that there was a big change in design as from Xperia Z to Xperia Z1 there were not major changes in design

Specifications of thr device are

5.2 inch Full HD IGZO Triluminuous Display with 423 PPI :cyclops:

Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8974AB Chipset

3GB RAM :victory:

20.7Mpx camera with 4K video recording support :good:

3200mAh battery :highfive:

Android 4.4

The device is expected to be released at CES2014 :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
They got the info from ESATO forums. It is just wishful thinking.
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
If the screen is bigger the ppi should be lesser than 441 am I right? unless the resolution is more than 1080p? Someone correct me?

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] jumper62:
Yh
[Xperia Z General] TRJS:
As I want to understand how it all works: Snapdragon 800 is capable of 4k video recording. So, in theory, is it "only" a matter of software to implement 4k recording to - in this case - the Z1, or is the camera itself not capable of 4k recording?

(Furthermore, would it be - again in theory - possible to implement 4k recording to any Snapdragon 800 based phone with a suitable camera (like the Galaxy S4 seems to be), with software modifications only?)
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
I wonder if Sony will roll out 4K as a software update later on, or hold off to add some value to the next phone - perhaps to tie in with a promotion with their Ultra HD televisions? Say adding 4K content to Video Unlimited and sell it as a device to stream more than just your own recorded video.

Any company has to consider what to hold back to make the next model something to upgrade to. And Sony has the history of leaving some feature out for exactly this reason.
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
I couldn't agree more. Sony and other brands can't just give out all in one phone. They will keep announce limited features so that they have something more in the upcoming phones. Marketing in other words.
[Xperia Z General] TRJS:
I don't know if this really is a good strategy. For example: For me, personally, 4k is important (as I want to have my videos from holidays etc. in best quality now already, so that in 2-3 years, when I will own a 4k-TV, I can watch them in a quality that won't be below the standard then).

So I won't buy the Z1, as I will have to wait 5-6 months only to get the Z2. Apple uses the same not-all-features-at-once-strategy, too, but there you know you will have to wait a whole year to get a better model.

I'd definitely prefer a strategy to be top-of-the-league with a model that has everything on board *now*. I think that would stand out much more - with a good marketing that would be even more worth than any iPhone presentation from Apple ...
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
"Unlocking Xperia Z1 bootloader breaks camera functionality"

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/14/unlocking-xperia-z1-bootloader-breaks-camera-functionality/

Can be avoided when you backup your TA partition!

But to think that sony would try to protect their Camera drivers so hard! phew....
[Xperia Z General] CowMix:
Whats the point of having a camera phone shoot 4k video? So your video file sizes can be bigger with very little quality improvement. Just cause the chipset and the camera are capable of shooting 4k doesn't mean the results are going to be good on such a small sensor/lens. Honestly I think 1080p is probably overkill on a camera phone.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
As someone has already said, people might want to be able to record Ultra-HD video as soon as possible - say of their children growing up - so that there's already captured material ahead of owning a TV that can show it at full quality.

Assuming the hardware can cope with 4K, as it quite clearly can from the specs, then there may well be a third-party 4K video recorder released even if Sony doesn't.

Chances are 2014 will be the year that 4K TVs become cheaper (at CES when LG, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic etc all show off their '2014' range - perhaps a lot more will be 4K) and that's then a good time to use CES or Mobile World Congress to release new handsets with 4K recording. Sony might well have decided to deliberately hold off adding it on the Z1, or will announce a free update for Z1 (and perhaps Z Ultra) owners alongside some new TVs.

Now the next question is; when will Sony put a 4K display on its next smartphone? :)
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
Exactly! I would have killed to have 20 year old home videos of myself as a kid in Full HD or at least HD ready instead of crappy VHS PAL quality.

It's called inovation.

I also always record photos and videos in the highest resolution possible. I mean, what's the point to save some megabytes and later be sorry in a few years if the quality is not there? It's also great for editing and zooming in.

As soon as some dev enables 4k recording on the Z1 (and I'm 90% sure it'll happen, it's just a question of time), I'm all for it.

Heck, I'd even record everything in FHD 3D or UHD 3D if possible or affordable. In fact, I already got myself a 3D compact camera in 2011 and take 3D pictures with it once in a while. It's just so much better and more live like than flat 2D.

Now, where can I buy a 128GB microSD card? My 64GB card has only 12.5GB left....
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Good question. If you read some tech sites, you'd think they're already on sale (confused by what's released and what has been announced) - but I don't think they're released yet.

My 64GB card is also pretty full and I'd love to get the 128, although I bet they won't be cheap. That's unless you buy a cheap Chinese clone that will have just 1.28GB. :p
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
There comes the point - i think Sony has decided to drop 4K support considering the space utilized and a probable bottle neck on read/write capability.

Does someone know how much size it needs to record a 4K video for one minute? Does the hardware support it, i doubt that. Using a normal SD card which every average common man does will probably just make the video bad rather than recording a 4K one..
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Aprox 1.6 gb per minute,but this depends on the compression used.
[Xperia Z General] pradeepvizz:
If you are serious on that answer everybody looking for 4K are just going to shut up here lol
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Maybe more :D http://web.forret.com/tools/video_f...interlace=on&depth=12&title=Digital+Cinema+4K
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
1 min -> 340 MB
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
Just saw the Review of the LG G2 on anandtech (yes i'm late.... -.- )

so 30mbps result in 225MB/min while the original 30fps would have been 150MB/min

Going to 4k would be 4x the size aka 600MB/min

Tough i'd wish to have 1080p at 120fps. 20Mbps x4 = 10MB/sec which should not be a Problem.

but man, the G2 sure has some awesome Battery saving features!

and they do work! (yeah yeah, the 3000mAh battery sure also does help a lot)
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
I think now is not a bad time for Sony to support 4K recording since they are selling those pretty expensive 4K TVs. They can pack the whole thing and advertise them together like Samsung or Apple had done.

Also the hardware and the software are both ready. Android now support the exfat, which allows files greater than 4G. And S800 natively support 4K playback and recording.

It's a shame that Sony had put the S800 on smartphones but some random band that doesn't have any 4K hardware or content got to support the 4K recording first.
[Xperia Z General] amirprog:
as a sony consumer these are some of the highest priority improvements for the next xperia flagships i hope to see:

1. make the front glass and back glass shatter resistant AND with oleophobic coating to make the front film ONLY optional (the Z1 front glass itself is ONLY "glass resistant" to my knowledge, why sony, why? i fail to understand why is that) and if there's no way to make the glass itself shatter resistant with out having to put a film on then ditch the glass design for all aluminum. by either way:

a. you treat many people that HATE screen films, like me. people who wants to put a film can always do that.

b. the screen quality will not be affected at all by a mandatory film (a really minor effect, small as it may be, but it's still an effect, right? right).

2. do not print your "sony" logo on the front film - it's a really cheap and dumb decision. either engrave it on the front glass itself or don't engrave it at all on the front. and just don't tell me that the back "sony" and "xperia" logos are not printed on the back film as well, otherwise it will be too stupid.

just don't make the film a mandatory thing. of course one can remove the film but it would be a silly thing to do since the glass will be more fragile and without oleophobic coating - so it's not a wise thing to do.

i have my iphone 3gs for 4 years now and i have only 2 tiny scratches on the screen, why? cause i put it in ultra thine leather folder case which is a MUCH better compromise then using a phone with a film on which i can't stand, plus it gives real protection against drops, etc. much better protection then what the film brings.

i hope sony listen to their consumers criticism also by checking out message boards and forums like this one.

please correct me if i'm not accurate with what i wrote.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Z1 battery test!
[Xperia Z General] chesterr:
Yea Pretty good if we talk about the 3G talk time, but I don't understand why can't they pull off with the video test and web browsing test, Very fishy.
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Yeah, the screen on time being worse than the Z with 50% more juice is odd...
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
they did calibrate screen brightness for the Test, right ?
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Xperia Z1 Review

PhoneArena gave it a 9.2. A very good score
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Sony Canada has announced that the Xperia Z1 will be available in mid-October from the big 3, Rogers, Bell and Telus.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/123...1-smartphone-coming-to-canada-in-october-2013
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
Anything info from your contacts?
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
This list basically confirms that C6906 Z1 will not be sold unlocked. What a stupid move by Sony. LTE is a must form most people getting a new phone and who is going to pay $ 743 for an unlocked phone that doesn't have LTE? I am not

This is a list of upcoming Sony Mobile products in the US with the MSRP.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Last info I got was first couple weeks of Oct. As seen in the above post don't be surprised if it is unlocked HSPA+ only.....damn carriers (or in this case carrier)
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
Sony is such a disappointment :(
[Xperia Z General] Toledo_JAB:
I disagree!

Sony has the most beautifully designed devices on the market.

With industry leading features. Just look at how many OEM's came out with waterproof high end phones, after Sony has.

And I will also add that Sony's stock UI is the best looking and easiest to use.

It is not Sony's fault that USA carriers restrict access to both the market and the bootloader, for Sony's phones.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Xperia Z1 mini SO-02F Docomo version aka Honami mini Specs & Back Image Leaked

we can see that the Xperia Z1 has the XPERIA logo on the top,not the SONY logo,it is the Docomo version,also it comes with 32GB internal storage.

for the Z1 mini only 16GB Internal Storage.

Image of Xperia Z1 docomo version
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
screw the carrier and just release the phone with proper LTE bands
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Unlocked LTE ZU C6806 should be available from Sony in the US this Sunday.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
More Xperia Z1 & Z1 f NTT Docomo Pictures Leaked

Xperia Z1 NTT Docomo

Xperia Z1 f NTT Docomo
[Xperia Z General] muslim187:
Have someone more photos from the mini ?
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
I think you mean next sunday lol
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
How about the Z1 LTE?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Yeah looks like it afterall. Guess I misunderstood him last time but just confirmed the 13th.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Ultra

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Won't see that in the US for a while probably. HSPA version should be out on the the 14th.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Ultra
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
So should I just order on the Canadian Sony store? Since they carry the unlock C6906
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Oh really? Can you provide a link??
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
The mobilesyrup said that both ZU and Z1 LTE variant will be available on 15th for 3 major carriers and unlocked on Sony store.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
This article ?

Update: We’ve heard directly from Sony that the Xperia Z1 will be sold unlocked at Sony Stores throughout Canada in mid-October. The company began selling unlocked devices with the Xperia S, but subsequent models, including most recently the Xperia ZL, were locked to Rogers. We’re awaiting confirmation that the device will be compatible with AWS variants like WIND, Mobilicity and Videotron, but since Z1 uses the multi-band Snapdragon 800, it’s looking good for new entrants.

It doesn't state if the unlocked phones will be LTE compatible or not. The Z was sold unlocked in Canada and in the US but it wasn't the LTE model.
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
I don't think Z HSPA was released on Canada, and the carriers are going to carry a 700+ phone without LTE capacity.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Here is the link!

LTE is not listed under the supported Data Transfer Rates.
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Unlocked Z1 LTE or not, I don't think it matters to me too much as I don't mind getting a locked Rogers one. I just hope Robbers doesn't overcharge like they did with the HTC One and ZL which were something like $30 more than Bell.
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
Right...I think last time I checked there were only T and ZL...

But Z is not carried, so Z1 could still be LTE
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Sony Xperia Z1 rumored to get Android 4.4 update in 7 November 2013
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
srsly?

4.3 will be skipped or what ?:thumbup:

Sent from my asylumized AOKP'd Xperia Z powered by meow™ kernel
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Android 4.4 KitKat is NOT hitting the Xperia Z1 in November

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/09/android-4-4-kitkat-is-not-hitting-the-xperia-z1-in-november/
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
More Xperia Z1 f images

Refresh the page if you can't see...
[Xperia Z General] ipmanwck:
Why do Sony use such big bezels ?
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
I don't think the Candian store ships to the US
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
It makes it easier to hold onto the phone in landscape, and it looks better.
[Xperia Z General] ipmanwck:
I guessed that but the phone is huge. Shame really as was wanting to buy it to replace my current phone but went to shop and thing is awkwardly big it feels uncomfortable in my pocket. Will wait to see what nexus is like I guess.
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
?? It's not much bigger than the HTC One, is it? Anyway, my Z Ultra fits in my pockets just fine. I'd be shocked if you weren't able to fit the Z1 in your pocket with a lot of room to spare.
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
coming to T mobile USA :(
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
There's been a lot of talk about Sony putting the Chinese and US markets on hold for a while and focusing on their home market and Europe (probably something to do with the iPhone arriving there).

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/11/4826986/sony-cedes-us-smartphone-market-to-competition-for-now

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/11/us-sony-smartphone-idUSBRE99A05720131011

When I first heard about it, I just thought they were going to just ...take it easy in the US. But now its reading like, Xperias won't be available here at all...

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/10/11/i-ll-miss-you-sony-but-i-understand-why-you-re-leaving/

Does anyone else have a better/different understanding of this? The T-Mo Z1 could be a photoshop but its essentially the reason I got an upgrade anytime plan... Would I have to just import the next Xperia I want, hoping it's compatible?
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
No....focusing on selected markets is one thing and withdrawal from U.S. is definitely another thing. What Sony's CEO has stated was that Sony mobile will put more it's energy on those markets, like Japan and Europe, that they have large shares. But it doesn't mean that it is leaving other markets...China was mentioned with U.S., so I seriously do not believe that Sony Mobile will withdraw from those two since China had three early releases in this year.