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[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
Widgets themselves are not the problem no matter how lush they are. The real problem is the careful "orchestrating" of all of this.

In a nutshell: everything needs to know when to act and when to stay put. It is kind of like organising smooth president cortege through the busy city in the morning rush. You need to make sure, that all lights are green, everyone is barred from entering the streets, there are no road maintenances and so on. You simply can't leave anything to chance no matter how powerful your car engine is.

Event that is not enough. There are all sorts of sneaky tricks which make it *look* quick and smooth even when in reality they often just slow everything down. But user does not mind, because everything is "buttersmooth", hence - "quick". Even if it actually makes he/she wait half a second longer.

Here is a small real life example: imagine user presses the button and the app needs to calculate something and display it using a new screen.

You think the application starts the calculation as soon as user hits the button? No way. If I programmed like this, the application would be "slow" and/or "jerky".

So, what do we do instead? We just act like we are doing something. We animate all sorts of eye candy, make old screen fade away and new screen elegantly slide in. And only then we start with actual calculation. It is not that CPU is too slow to do both. Not at all. The problem is, there are chances that you will hit some bottleneck at the most unfortunate moment. Like moving big chunks of RAM or writing something big to flash.

It is like getting superexpress "just in time" delivery via air cargo just to find out, that you can't begin with unloading because some stupid 3rd party contractors are blocking your warehouse because they newly repainted the doors.

It takes maybe some 30% of effort to implement a fully functional user interface as you know it. With all the widgets, features etc. And you will need to invest another 70% in tweaking the code to make it look smooth, implanting all sorts of cosmetical tricks, often making your initially clean and beatiful code to a convoluted mess.

No wonder, that constrained by resources companies try to invest less. Especially in something absolete like Gingerbread, which is is a stopgap XS.

Event Samsung don't nail it at all the times. For example, the touchwiz on their tablet often laggs badly.

Well, that S4 was simply not available at that time. Sony had no choice.

For me it is much more: GX seem to fix some facepalm issues present in XS. As to the looks, the xperia P body would be nicer, but "oh well".
[Xperia Z General] gizzmoffm:
Samsung implements their own HW acceleration in the browser and other webview components. We'll see how ICS will perform on the XS in a couple of days I think... the video previews of the GX look promising :)

About the homescreen... dunno. Maybe a combination of more complex graphics, they do some sort of GL compositing, just look at the wobbly widgets while moving.

On top of that, XS has way more pixels to move around.
[Xperia Z General] realfelix:
i am fairly happy with my xperia s, i think the design is way better than the lt29.. the only thing is the on-screen buttons the hayabusa has.. thats bugging me on the xperia s as they are very unresponsive at times... and 13mp vs 12mp is really a TINY difference..
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Pocketnow seem sure there's going to be a global version probably next year with 4.2 so watch this space
[Xperia Z General] soldiers33:
The V looks absolutley beautiful and its water resistant :). Will definitly be my next phone. I miss the design of my Arc :(
[Xperia Z General] altitud63:
After seeing the dates of updates to JB, I won´t buy another Sony, I'm as happy as disappointed with my Xperia S
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
With the replaceable battery ones you should be able to get a good large aftermarket battery like mugen power or something.

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Jesus its 145 dollars in the us on the sony store. I wish we got the sale.

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They may come up with something sooner, there have been rumors. I love my Xperia S but I am dissapointed with that date.
[Xperia Z General] osharaf:
Very easy question to answer.

Best screen ever made by sony and currently the best in the market is the 4.3 inch 343 @ PPI and it can be found on:

S

Acro S

V

Forget the S because:

Not waterproof

No SD slot

Not dustproof or generally rugged

Capacitive buttons are crap

Which leaves us with V vs Acro S

V has a faster more powerful cpu and gpu S4 krait vs S3 Scorpion, no competition.

V looks sexier as it has the iconic Arc design and it is slimmer and lighter.

However you can't take pics with V underwater unlike the Acro S since it does not have a hardware cam button, no touch works underwater.

V has a front VGA camera, Acro front cam is 1.3 mp and can capture 720 hd video.

V lacks an hdmi port unlike the acro, converter is needed.

So it's between these two, any other phone in the Xperia line have much less interesting features and a crappy screen compared to those 3, a fine example is the T which i got to hold in my hands yesterday and boy that screen looked **** compared to mine.
[Xperia Z General] lokenok:
still , i like the v only if front cam had better pixels..
[Xperia Z General] andrasandhi:
need new Xperia Arc line-up, with decent camera, thinnest-beauty body, maybe 4,3" screen, dual-core 1,2ghz is enough.

Xperia S isnt the next Arc, bcoz X-S is NXT's line.
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
Yeah I concede the fact that the V is the new Sony phone to have. Not sure if it is a big enough upgrade for my S though.
[Xperia Z General] osharaf:
The S4 krait cpu is a giant upgrade over the S3 Scorpion, The phone looks sex, much better than the S, better Camera, Water Resistant...if this isn't an upgrade then i don't know what is.
[Xperia Z General] oaman:
Good review :o
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Sorry you're wrong there. The s4 is the next generation but the 1.5 ghz dual core variant is only more power efficient than the 1.5 ghz s3.

They both run at the same speed....1.5ghz. Speed is an absolute quantity. There's nothing relative about it. They might benchmark differently but in reality the performance is similar. The s4 pro quad core cpu with its much improved gpu is another matter. Having said that once we start seeing the 1.8 and 2.0 ghz versions probably next year, then we'll notice a marked increase in speed in real tests.

That's what s4 is really about. Ushering in cpus with much higher clocks than what could be achieved stably with the s3.

The v is not even an upgrade. It's just the same idea packaged differently. Sony are just slow releasing phones that should have been released at the start of the year now.

The v is dated even before it's been released. Just take a look at what other manufacturers are coming with. HTC butterfly case in point.
[Xperia Z General] lokenok:
yeah the xperia v rocks , has all the new technology from sony on this phone and its lte and waterproof :)
[Xperia Z General] osharaf:
I strongly disagree, the difference in performance is astronomical and can be noticed in benchmarks, cpus aren't only measured by speed that's like comparing cameras based on megapixels, memory access, cashe and many other technicalities affect the performance besides i own an Acro S and i have an S3 and last week i got to try the S4 on an Xperia T, the performance and responsivness can be felt even if the T had a stock rom with all the bloatware still installed.

And btw there is a Galaxy S3 with an S4 krait cpu, verizon version i think.

Please check the link below:

www.anandtech.com/show/5559/qualcom...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2

And this:

www.tmonews.com/2012/05/editorial-why-a-snapdragon-s4-galaxy-s-iii-is-awesome/

Seriously mate the S4 krait is a beast as proven by every single benchmark and tech blog out there, probably the only CPU that can outpreform it at this moment is the Quad Core S4 Pro, which is the quad version of the same cpu however it's an overkill, it's really sad when people just look at numbers of cores / megapixels / clock speed when there is much much more to the technology than that.
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Yeah, clockspeed isn't a good way to compare at all. Look at current Intel vs AMD for example.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
I think my dear friend the differences you noticed in performance between the T and the S are due to software enhancements present on the ics build of the T.

Software counts for a lot and for someone who accuses others of just going buy numbers, your whole argument was based on numbers.

The galaxy nexus with JB was faster than anything else available before the rest got JB as well and it had a 1.2ghz s3 cpu.

The greatest criticisms of the S from a lot of the objective reviews I read and saw were of its dated and doggy software. Most could live with it's s3 cpu and so could I.

As for benchmarks, a lot of these tools do nothing else but award marks for just having specs and are not really a measure of how those specs perform. That's my opinion as I've seen to many phones with much lower benchmark scores out performing others with higher scores in real world tests so you can keep your benchmarking scores.

There is however a significant difference between the s4 and the s4 pro owing to the pro having a much improved gpu but the pro in most tasks apart from gaming will do better only when multitasking.
[Xperia Z General] osharaf:
Read the links specially the first one, both cpu have different architecture and the S4 is a leap forward in everyway, this isn't the case of the same cpu being overclocked like Arc and Arc S, it's a different technology just a small example S4 has 1 Mb l2 cashe S3 has 512 kb.

And i didn't criticize you for using numbers, you're just using the wrong ones, and the difference in performance is huge, it's not just software, besides just for logic sake, assuming It's the software which is a laughable suggestion, if it's performing 4x better than the S doesn't that make it a huge upgrade?

You can argue all you want against experts and facts about why it performs better but you can't argue vs the fact that it does, and that makes it an upgrade specially when we're talking about a phone that gets 50% of the Galaxy S III performance vs another that wipes the floor down with it.

Please read more about how technically both cpus are different and try to be less biased and come back with a reply.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Google joins Sony in promoting James Bond as an Android user

http://www.androidauthority.com/google-sony-promoting-james-bond-android-user-126204/
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
I'm talking about the performance in reality not on paper. They're marginal differences in speed. The S flew on gingerbread with an s3. Everything happened instantaneously. The slow downs came with ics. Be careful not to over state hardware and underplay software. Look at the impressive speed of the galaxy nexus on JB despite it's so called weaker hardware. The S and T running the same software will perform very similarly. Everyone brags about their technological achievements. O.E.M's and S.O.C's alike. The proof as they say is in the pudding. While the numbers in benchmarks might show a significant improvement, the reality is very different. That's all I'm saying
[Xperia Z General] osharaf:
Let's just agree to disagree then.
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
I would argue that it doesnt look better than the S, but I like the features it has. What I was saying is not sure if it is a big enough upgrade over my S to justify it. Maybe down the road when the V is cheap. My S is overclocked and runs really fast in OS, I dont game on my phone so I dont really see a day to day increase in speed.
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
If I were you I would wait for 2013 phones
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I think seeing the current release delays and confirming no Jelly Bean this year even for Xperia T/TX no one wants to buy anything from Sony this year, I hope things change in 2013 !!
[Xperia Z General] osharaf:
The looks is purely based on taste and opinion however for me before the Acro S i owned an Arc and when Sony released the NXT generation i was considering seriously another brand which would have been the first time in maybe 10 years if not more lol.

Anyway my Acro S is currently performing well, it's the same exact hardware as the S plus few improvements plus the waterproof and dust proof etc so i will be waiting for the 2013 line for sure however i am waiting for something very specific and i hope Sony delivers.

I want another waterproof phone that has a hardware camera button, unlike the V and like the Acro which will allow me to countinue taking underwater pics. I want an Arc based design or something sexier, simple, minimal and sexy, no transparent colored bars or disco light system pls. I want an S4 krait dual or quad, and most importantly a screen similar to Acro, V and S not less a bit in Quality.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
The transparent antenna bar isn't dead yet, so expect to see it in some new products in 2013.

However, if Sony now puts the Android keys on-screen then it might be that future models will merely have the transparent bar for illumination (and supposedly improved signal).

I like the transparent bar on my Xperia S, but always thought it was a case of Sony experimenting with ideas: One having soft keys above the display, another on the bar itself, some having multi-coloured lighting etc. I guess by now they've chosen what works best.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Totally agree. The phones they released in the second half of this year are just pretty much the same as what came earlier. Just with many of the issues ironed out.

You'll have to wait until next year to get a proper upgrade. Hardware and software
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
I wouldnt trade my Xperia S for the new Nexus LG. But I would trade it for a new Xperia V. Ill probably just wait for the 2013 phones.
[Xperia Z General] MarkoESP:
I have the xpu and it performs very well, but sony software is bad, so before buying any xperia, make sure your carrier sells it with permissions to unlock the bootloader
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
Sony software is great.

Sent from hell using Xperia-S(atan)
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
satan with glowing angel halo?
[Xperia Z General] mrsatan:
Glowing angel halo? No halo here unless its a halo of evil.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
XS illuminating bar :silly:
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
japan starts pre-order japan variant of XV and still hear nothing of XV
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
TL is on out on AT&T right now
[Xperia Z General] Izzy Stinson:
god damn it im holding my money to buy either xperia s or xperia v.

anyone know when will xperia v release in stores?

they announced it on august i think but still there are no news when will xperia v will be released.

im waiting for like 2 months now or should i just buy xperia s already?
[Xperia Z General] take55:
Wait for the Xperia V. It will take one more month of patience but in terms of hardware it's definetely the better choice! Xperia S is kind of outdated compared to present generation of hardware.

If you don't mind that much about this the XS is a fine mobile nevertheless and the considerably cheaper choice.
[Xperia Z General] Anªk|n:
Hi guys, I'm looking for a budget phone, here the phones I'm considering:

- xperia J (like a lot the design)

- xperia arc S (love the design) a used one

- xperia U (just because I have to, due to similar specs of xperia J)

Now, basically I would go with the xperia arc S w/o second thoughts, if I was not bugged by its internal memory issues and its price that is not near J/U ones. What stops me going with the J-one is its lack of a dual core.

So any advice will be appreciated. :)
[Xperia Z General] lpvlinh07:
Xperia P?

Well if you're gonna go for U so why not P? Im having a P and im totally happy with it, except the battery life since i'm a heavy user, but a backup battery pack solved it well. Anyway don't go for an Arc S because its antiquated, can't compete with the NXT series.
[Xperia Z General] Anªk|n:
Well the P is out of my range, I'm looking for something less expensive. I'm now watching out the Sola either. About the arc S I know, it's a bit old, sadly :( I'm a bit skeptical about the display size of the U.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Get Xperia J !!

sent from the "BE"a"ST" Galaxy S3
[Xperia Z General] antoniopebri:
Sola :good::good::good::good:
[Xperia Z General] Anªk|n:
ehehe I've tried to convince myself about the U, but so far it's not working :), I watched another review about the J and apparently it works not that bad.

Today I'll dedicate some spare time checking out the Sola.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Confused !!! Buy Nexus 4 ;)

sent from Xperia Play
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
Where did you get the battery backup?
[Xperia Z General] rsadiwala:
what IS this...??
[Xperia Z General] Me‎:
Xperia S
[Xperia Z General] rsadiwala:
lame :eek:

i meant what is the UI/app shown in the phone there....!!
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Tv launcher, you get that when you connect to HDMI.
[Xperia Z General] Me‎:
oh my bad
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
5 " flagship from SONY

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/11/07/sony-c6603-yuga-pictures-leak/

sent from the "BE"a"ST" Galaxy S3
[Xperia Z General] lawliet80:
Xperia u! Not big, Well made, a phone....
[Xperia Z General] andrasandhi:
why someone didnt cares about battery life......
[Xperia Z General] chrisp7:
Im the same as you, I needed an interrim phone. I have the Xperia U, it has great battery life but upgraded to ICS its soo laggy, verging on unusable. I have installed quite a few apps but had to uninstall quite a few. Such a pity as I love its small size/design.
[Xperia Z General] ydaud:
Xperia U! The specs is so far better if be compared to Xperia J. About lag, try to factory reset after upgrade, and there are lots of tweaks in dev section. Mine using ICS and it runs very smooth. Some HD Games also runs better on U's Mali than J's Adreno.
[Xperia Z General] kudaj316:
i like xperia p,not to expensive but fast and great display quality
[Xperia Z General] laudiosysteml:
I like my Xperia U! but I prefer Xperia S! :cowboy:
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Sony's next year tagline:

Make.Believe.Release. ;)
[Xperia Z General] kenaeny:
I had to chose in between U and GO and made my decission with a pain in my hart on U

Now i would choose GO because of his good build, bigger screen because U did fell about 5 times from my hands and replaced the screen once.
[Xperia Z General] lalit387:
hehehe

I would say Make:Believe:BugFree Release:Marketable
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
It seems this thread is DEAD !!!

from the Giant Killer Samsung Note 2
[Xperia Z General] icedef:
I think the J is not worth your money I'd say go for Sola or Xperia S, if you want much larger screen go for TX
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia V finally launching in Singapore by this weekend !!

Isn't it too late for Sony...
[Xperia Z General] _StIwY_:
I had a SGS, Nokia N8, Optimus X2, Arc S, Xperia S, Galaxy Nexus....now i have an Xperia P......IMHO is one of the bestsmartphones on the market....compact..light....unibody of aluminium...good hardware for the price, good camera........... I bought my Xperia P a few days ago and i'm very happy with it.

Yes the battery isn't a champ of autonomy but every smartphone have pros and cons.......:D
[Xperia Z General] dohanotoha:
I guess it's late. You may want to consider for the 2013 New models announcement.
[Xperia Z General] dude_creative:
Xperia T rules, but very slow release in India. so currently S is the best value for money. It is down to 22k rupees
[Xperia Z General] ILoveXperia:
hope new model of sony come soon, cant wait for the 2012 batch drop price :silly:
[Xperia Z General] horizophon:
I am satisfied with my Xperia P
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
Yuga will be the thinnest xperia phone till now and it will be made of some kind of glass. ;)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
XPERIA E & XPERIA E DUO..sad start for 2013 !!

XPERIA 2013 RANGE

Xperia E

Xperia E Duo

Codename Yoga/Odin (Rumoured)
[Xperia Z General] kenaeny:
xperia GO was a perfect gift to my wife, she loves it :)
[Xperia Z General] pharz07:
Which Sony Xperia (2012/2013) should I buy ?

im planning to buy xperia phone this week which is phone do u suggest xperia go or xperia j???please help me so i wont regret in buying..tnx guys
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
What do you want on a phone? What will be your use?
[Xperia Z General] pharz07:
Which Sony Xperia (2012/2013) should I buy ?

a good camera phone, a long battery life and good features thanks
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Go for Xperia V !!
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
This:
[Xperia Z General] pharz07:
Which Sony Xperia (2012/2013) should I buy ?

thanks...but i dont have that much money to buy xperia v...i can just afford xperia j and xperia go...which do you think is better??please help me
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
Xperia Go, faster chipset but smaller screen size and res.
[Xperia Z General] malih16:
if you have the money for Xperia Go, maybe you should consider Xperia SOLA :good:

I myself is currently in the market to buy a new second phone for anything work related.
[Xperia Z General] RevKaiean:
Well i will wait for 2013 August edition smartphone instead of early phase.
[Xperia Z General] techno-np:
2013 Sony Xperia rumoured to have killed specs... True HD display, 3 Gig Ram, quad core A15 chip and 5-6" display... Seems lik Sony taking to to the competition...but hoping they release it soon.. They release it so late than announcement.. They have to make this right...
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Source???

from the Giant Killer Samsung Note 2
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
Yuga? Odin? U don't read news?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I do, but 3gb RAM !!!

from the Giant Killer Samsung Note 2
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
I read it on phone arena check it out they have the source link in articles
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
My friend works in Sony service, he told me that yuga will have 3 gb of RAM, quad core Qualcomm SoC, 5" fullHD screen, and it will be made of some kind of glass. And one more thing, it will be thinnest xperia phone till now, best rumor from reliable sources. ;)
[Xperia Z General] pharz07:
can i upgrade xperia go OS to ICS
[Xperia Z General] DanielNL:
Maybe just use search function top right corner ("Search All Forums")? ;)

http://xdaforums.com/sitesearch.php?q=xperia go ics

Top result looks okay, although not sure what the "[DUMP]" means... :/ :P

Btw. this here shows also that the latest available software is 6.1.1.B.1.10

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/phones/xperia-go/
[Xperia Z General] pharz07:
thanks... :)
[Xperia Z General] DanielNL:
I recommend upgrading from Sony site... Maybe you need root otherwise, if getting some custom ROM from xda... ;)
[Xperia Z General] Surethom:
3gb of ram, nice. I dont really want a 5" screen 4.5 is big enough for me, but what I really want from sony is a battery thats is usefull, PLEASE Sony put a battery in ALL you high end phones of 2300 mAH or Higher.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
You should read this thread for info on the yuga/Odin: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1923889

It will have 2gb ram, S4 pro SoC, 5" 1080p screen with dragontail glass on front and back.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
I'm just telling you what I heard man, we will see. ;)
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
And I'm just telling you what I have seen from Sony product documentation. :)

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
Here u go. ;)

http://www.gsmarena.com/real_or_not_xperia_yuga_to_have_a_exynos_5_quad_5_oled_display-news-5202.php
[Xperia Z General] impossibile40:
for 300$ which sony buy?
[Xperia Z General] techno-np:
Xperia P all the way...
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
I'd put money on it. That is wrong.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL