yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
True, but they still promoted the octa core more. It was "main feature" that made it "outstanding"...

In my opinion it was just so they can say "we have octa core and we are first to make it".. Because it's really useless as far as I have seen..
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
Hi; when is it supposed to be launched this honami device? Is like an H2 device like xperia t was? Or it will be the 2014 flagship normally introduced at CES?
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Probably August or September, so pretty soon :)
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Check out how it did on gsmarena battery tests: http://blog.gsmarena.com/battery-te...9500-galaxy-s4-complete-here-are-the-results/

haha octa core - one quad core cpu for high demanding tasks and one quad core cpu for low demanding tasks to minimize battery usage :laugh:.
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
hahaha, samsung can keep all the exynos for themselves.
[Xperia Z General] TomLopez:
This device looks amazing and will probably replace my Z. Especially the Cam looks amazing!!
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
I thought cam sensor on both are exactly the same?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia Togari 6.4" display - http://www.knowyourmobile.com/sony/...ogari-phablet-and-it-wants-kill-galaxy-note-3

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] Michealtbh:
HTC just announced the HTC One Google Edition. What are our chances of seeing an Xperia Z Google Edition?
[Xperia Z General] cordonbleu:
Well, in that case you just have to wait till Sony releases AOSP for the Z I think.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
They already did, except for some licensed binaries, they are working to get them released too.
[Xperia Z General] Yuriy.Samorodov:
They are definitely not the same while Honami is expected to get 20MP 2/3 Sensor:

http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-honami-rumored-cyber-shot-camera

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/05/sony-honami-to-sport-23-sensor-with-rx100s-manual-controls-rumor/

All the best,
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
he talks about XZ and S4. how did Honami came into this discussion?
[Xperia Z General] Yuriy.Samorodov:
My bad. Please "-1" me =)
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
wow.... HONAMI confirmed with triluminos display and S800

I wonder if this phone is going to cost a fortune.
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
Where was the Honami "confirmed" to have Triluminos, out of curiosity? I know that Sony execs had confirmed that Triluminos would be coming "to the Xperia line," but I didn't think they had specified any particular phone?
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
randomuser over at esato confirmed it with xr5.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Xperia L4 Togari.
[Xperia Z General] Yuriy.Samorodov:
We want to see Honami! (By the way, I asked my knowledgeable colleague what does this mean and I was very excited to know this means "Admiration with flowers")
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Definitely FAKE - it cannot afford to have such HUGE bezel !!!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

It's NOT fake
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
if Honami is really triluminous display then.... I dunno never seen one in person lol is it better than IGZO?
[Xperia Z General] xman_here:
A giant has leaked today... Sony Togari phablet will sport a 6.44-inch 1080p display... Cool, Sony!
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
any info on the display on togari? no triluminous display? Wish someone can make a 2.35:1 phone with little to no bezel with high quality wide angle camera.
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
No, phablet doesn't have Triluminos.
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
Dammit.
[Xperia Z General] chrisrotolo:
been watching and waiting for toagri for months now, will probably have to wait until august september..

Unless something else better comes along, need a change from samsung, and always really liked the build quality of Sony.

probably will be 7-800 for LTE variant.

just really hope theres not so much bezel at the top and bottom..

heres a link to another possible image.. togari?

here's the actual image..
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
thats the Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] chrisrotolo:
looks longer though, but OK.
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
I think not. It could be photoshoped Z. No number on bottom though, so, I don't buy it ;)
[Xperia Z General] thunderising:
Togari launch most probably this month, availability next month. S800 goodness
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Wat??? Any source/proof !!!

Should be in IFA (September)

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
2-3 months before note 3 is a good idea, anyone know when is the note 3 coming out?
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Samsung is having an announcement on June 20 where they're gonna reveal new ATIV and GALAXY devices. It's probably more likely that the GS4 Active will be revealed there, but there's a possibility that the Note 3 might be shown as well.

Otherwise, wait for IFA in August.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Um no....announcement not till August with a Sep/Oct launch.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Some seem to believe Togari will be announced for China for the end of this month. Who knows...
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
This is the source

http://www.eprice.com.cn/mobile/talk/102/4512513/1/

Sony is holding a press conference on the 25th of June in Shanghai.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Cool. I don't mind if the phones are released in other regions first. I just wanna know official info on it and see it :)

I guess it's unlikely that Honami will be shown even if Togari is. Ah well... wait and see ;)
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
I still think that Spectre51 has more accurate info. As far as I know he has never been wrong.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Specter have a source other than the one with AT&T? If not, then his info may not represent what's occuring on a global scale.

Of course he could have other sources, I dunno...
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
If his source was with AT&T he would not have got the Z way before release.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
My source is not at/with AT&T.

Sent from my Lumia 920
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Cool, thanks for the clarification.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
so we should expect Honami show up in IFA and release in late Sep?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Don't have the exact dates but announcement in Aug as well and release in Sep/Oct is what I have been told.
[Xperia Z General] thunderising:
That's international.

China and Japan are getting the phone much sooner (1 month)
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
So announce in Aug, release in Aug Apple style? Since its only for 2 market I think its possible. Lets hope other region won't get screwed.
[Xperia Z General] blakwhite:
It seems you/your source was right for togari. How bout honami then? Any dimensional specs?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia ZU Togari phablet will launch with the latest version of Android OS, that being Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean. The second part of the news really made my face light up, Sony will introduce a new UI with the next Android update. Now we don’t have any further info related to the UI or how it will look, but really, all we can do is cross our fingers and hope for the best.

sent from Xperia Tablet Z!!
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
Now if only it had 2GB of RAM, but wait, it has!

Maybe a Snapdragon 800? Sure.

Water resistant ? You bet!

Micro SD? Right on spot.

Yeah but what about a dedicated camera button AND a headphones jack without a protective cover - because opening/closing covers is just irritating - WITHOUT loosing water resistance? Well, you might have a winner here! :D

Great! Now if only I had bigger pockets - 6.4" is big - or maybe a 5" device with the above specs...... Who knows, your dreams might come true. No I'm not talking about bigger jean pockets. I might even add a 20Mpixel camera but that's too much...

DISCLAIMER: The above are OBVIOUSLY a product of my imagination. OBVIOUSLY!
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
interesting... are u hinting at something new? :victory:
[Xperia Z General] Yuriy.Samorodov:
Keeping in mind rumored Walkman DAC, I wish new Sony devices will have it.
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
I just have a wild wild imagination ;)
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
lets hope ur wild wild imagination comes true!

i do hope they include a XENON flash though
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
would be nice 2 see

Sent from my

phone
[Xperia Z General] Yuriy.Samorodov:
Let's vote Mr. gbil President of Sony Corporation!:p
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/06/12/first-image-of-xperia-z-ultra-teased-super-slim-phablet/
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
OMG, maybe that jack thing I 'imagined' is true after all :p
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
:victory::victory::victory::victory:

now only if the other things u imagined became true... :angel:
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
No Xenon in Z Ultra, Xenon is only on the Honami.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Yes, ZU is just an elongated version of Xperia Z with latest OS and hardware + stylus on top !!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Don't forget the Triluminos screen ;)
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Z Ultra also has the shutter, of course :)

BTW, any word on Togari or Honami having wireless charging of any sort, or even the charging contacts that the Z has?

Also hopeful that any of these upcoming events will have a new smartwatch unveiled too.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Triluminos screen on Xperia ZU - sure !! :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
I don't understand why everyone is so excited for this Z ultra.

It's basically a thinner, bigger (way too big) XZ with a faster CPU and worse camera.

The XZ is already too big to use in 1 hand and this ZXUltra will hardly fit in your pocket
[Xperia Z General] :
What would you guys feel,if it doesn't has a LED flash light?
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
Then use two hands.

I can almost guarantee you it will fit in your pocket.

If you're not excited at all about the idea of a 6.44" 1080p Triluminos display, then I really don't know what you're doing on a site dedicated to mobile devices.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
What, because I think 6.44" mobile devices are too big, I can't be on a site dedicated to mobile devices?

I bought the ZL also because I found the Z to be too big. With my ZL, I already have trouble walking up the stairs taking big steps and no I dont wear tight jeans. I can't imagine it being comfortable with a 6.44" phone.

But perhaps it would be a good alternative when you need a new phone AND a new tablet. Maybe I need to get used to the idea of a phablet.

Still I think you will need to bring your XZU when buying new pants because the pockets need to be big enough :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
I didn't say you couldn't be on the site, it just seems to me that the idea is pretty appealing on a gut level before you start thinking about the ramifications of actually carrying the thing.

For what it's worth, however, I don't think it's too big. I've been interested in this device for a while now, and when XperiaBlog published the rumored dimensions the other day, I cut a piece of notebook paper into those dimensions (not counting front-to-back depth, obviously) and just played around with it for a little while, trying to imagine what it would be like to use a device that big. I also took it and placed it into the pocket of almost every pair of pants I own, lol. It fit in all of them, and I don't wear jeans, just chinos and trousers, so my pockets aren't especially big.

Having said that, I realize this is definitely not a device for everyone, or even most people. I tend to be attracted to extreme solutions like this though, lol.
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
latest generation CPU + new display is enough for me :p
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
So DoomLorD, you will switch from Xperia Z to ZU or will keep both???

M going to keep my XZ and will replace my Note 2 with Xperia ZU !! :)
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
all 6 actually ;)

Xperia ZU, Xperia Z, Xperia T, Xperia S, Xperia Arc & Xperia Play :D

right now i personally use the Z & T... when i get the ZU, i will use it as primary device...
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
lol no room for honami?
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
there is always room for newer and better devices ;)
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
Hay guys!! Now most of you talk about this device as a normal phone and way toooo big to handle in one hand, but guys I think it supposed to be used with to hands and with stylus or pen/finger.

It is a phablet (smartphone/tablet)

Just my thoughts

Sfk
[Xperia Z General] liqn7:
Super excited :)

This would be the perfect all in one device (have note 2 and Nexus 10 at the moment). Having used the Galaxy tab 7.7 as a phone for 6 months, I think this would be the perfect compromise between screen size and portability. I'm all for the largest screen that I can pocket comfortably. The note 2 pockets very well, which means we can go a bit bigger.

Smart phones are not phones to me but rather portable tablets/computers which has a phone app that can make calls. As such, all the outdated conventions of single handed use and how it looks against my face aren't relevant imo.

Haters gonna hate...
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
More Sony Xperia ZU details

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4870759/1/
[Xperia Z General] Qwerty123 \m/:
Int unlocked will retail for 700$ plus i guess. *Im speculating

So 40k price in India. Not bad
[Xperia Z General] liqn7:
First full pic:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia...hed_in_the_wild_ui_is_unchanged-news-6209.php
[Xperia Z General] Qwerty123 \m/:
So whats the diff b/w Xperia Z and rumoured Honami.

Isn't Xperia Z = Togari ?

And any specs for Honami ?
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
It's hard to get a sense of size when all you have for comparison is some guy lap, no doubt killing his sperm count with the phone there.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I think its fake, ZU cannot afford so thick bezels !!

If its real m disappointed :(

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] jmquez:
Just cut a piece of paper that is: 179.2mm x 92mm

I did, it feels ok in the hand, fits in my shirt pocket+jeans pocket.

Here is in comparison to a Nexus 4

Edit: Also, the bezel is large because it needs it to be able to use infrared technology, check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60uWFqHl3Us
[Xperia Z General] Jonfensu:
Thats the Xperia ZR with 4.1.2... Look at the Front facing camera and the Navigation bar (No trasnparent as Sony 4.2.2)
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
My point is that you can't tell if it is actually the ZU or maybe a ZR because you can't see the size.
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
Here you can see the deference from Z and ZU
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
from the looks of all pics and stuff its more like a competitor for the Nexus 7 rather than the Note 2
[Xperia Z General] TomLopez:
No:

Xperia Z is Yuga

Xperia ZU is Togari and it is a phablet to contest Note 3

New Xperia Z or evolution has code name Honami and should have more or less the same specs than the Z +

Better camera

Snapdragon 800/Adreno 330

Bigger battery

Still IP certified
[Xperia Z General] njsdante:
Information needed!

i want to know about XZR.

i'm planning to buying it.

it don't available in my region so anybody got XZR give some user comment on this phone.

sorry for my poor english and thanks alot for your tips. cheers!!
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
huh what 4july in Francais? wasnt Togari supposed to reveal 26 June?
[Xperia Z General] njsdante:
June 26 [MENTION=270152]shanghai[/MENTION] and July 4 [MENTION=1166477]france[/MENTION].
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
O really do miss my satio xenon flash, xperia s led flash sucks
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
did some rendering based on the leaked infos at esato by maiaramdan and early renders by razec.

anyway heres mine:

Large Images:
[Xperia Z General] LukeM1:
Blurred photo appears honami

An alleged blurry photo of the honami has appeared online, with some updated specs.

I am a new user so i can't post links, sorry, search this on google and you will find it: Alleged blurry photo of the Sony Honami surfaces online along with a full set of specifications
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
posting pic on your behalf :p
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Nice blurry Xperia Z you got there :D
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
Looks more like 9-10mm thick than 7.4mm!
[Xperia Z General] Qwerty123 \m/:
Well. Interchangable lenses means water can enter right ?

And even if it does look like the render in #3166 the shutter the physical one wont keep water out.
[Xperia Z General] tel033:
I think interchangeable lenses is a stupid idea., people should buy a camera instead

Although good image processing and xenon wouldn't bother at all :D
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Maybe not interchangeable but something like those magnetic snap on lenses as add-ons. That would be an alright option for people who want macro or zoom.
[Xperia Z General] #illidan:
Would the Honami have floating touch detection like the Togari does? This is the only feature I want from the Togari as I'm not a big proponent of using a stylus on a device that doesn't have a minimum screen size of 7".

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Hi! The front is great but... I think the back camera is a bit overkill for a phone lol! It's insanely large to cover almost half of the space of the back portion. It keeps on making me remember the hunchback of notradame :D
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
This is not a lumia pureview :p

Lense/Camera is too big and not Sony style

Refer to Sony Ericsson satio or k850
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Some people described it at esato forums. They could be wrong or not who knows.

Better to wait for the official but it's a long way down lol.
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
Yea I'm on esato same name litoni :thumbup:

It won't look the best if they have it with a chunky lense

Best to use a wide optical lense

Like the dsctx20b or dsct2b

Or the New dsc tx 30

Link

http://www.sony.com.au/product/dsc-tx30

Info

For a slim and fashionable pocket camera, the Cyber-shot TX30 is surprisingly rough and tough. Unfazed by water, dust, shock or even low temperatures, this is the ideal camera to take with you on all your adrenaline-pumping adventures.

Resistant to water, dust, shock and low temperatures

18.2MP Exmor R™ CMOS sensor™

5x optical zoom Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar lens

Magnifying Glass Plus and LED light

Enhanced Superior Auto

Full HD movie recording

Image
[Xperia Z General] R@mi:
i did some changes in your rander and i really hope the honami will be like that at the end:

*im sponse in esato
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
[MENTION=218905]rami[/MENTION]

Yours is more accurate

Reminds me of the k850

Just better have xenon

Edit ' Xperia '

Will be horizontal or vertical? Lol

It's a tricky one
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
This one is considerable now :p But a that first one was just way too impossible for so many reasons

1. Smudges of fingers in the lens all the time

2. Prone tio cracks(with that diameter it's easy to hit a sharp object and it will crack)

3. Not really ergonomic for a phone with a camera :D I could understand if it's a camera with a phone though.

4. Too big for a upgrade. Months ago we're only getting 3-4mm lenses now we would get an insane 2 to 3 inches lens.
[Xperia Z General] R@mi:
tried to do a 3d model:

for the xperia logo, if it will have a big lens like in my renders, i will prefer that it will be in vertical..
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
That design looks nice but the big ccamera lens look ugly imo..but overall it looks way better than the s4 zoom.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] greatremix:
I want to have LTE like a regular AT&T customer....Even though I am fine with the speed that I have with my Z, still would like to enjoy the LTE...Since I replace my TL with Z, my date usage decreased a lot......

If the next generation of Xperia is still not available on AT&T and exclusively on TMo...I might just cancel my plan and go for TMo
[Xperia Z General] Toledo_JAB:
I was trying to talk my brother in to getting an Xperia.

But he has Verizon.

Neither AT&T or Verizon carry any NEW Sony Xperia's. (Verizon does still carry the Xperia Play.)

It looks like I need to start saving for an unlocked bootloader version that will be released in August of 2014.

Then I can use my upgrade to get a cheap iPhone and sell it on Ebay. ;)

Then use the $$$ to get an unlocked Sony flagship.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
August 2014? :D That's a long shot :p
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Xperia ZU Screenshots leaked

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=42732815&postcount=7376&nocache=1&z=2163358600810170
[Xperia Z General] Aruman:
Maybe it is this one?

http://vr-zone.com/articles/first-s...z-styled-design-rear-speaker-strip/39066.html
[Xperia Z General] jmquez:
This article is worth reading: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/01/05/an-experiment-my-life-with-a-nexus-7-as-my-phone/

There is some of us who use their phone 90% as a tablet and 10% as a phone, Xperia ZU makes perfect sense!
[Xperia Z General] chrisrotolo:
so far rumored specs are pretty exact. also did anyone notice 22 sensors!! ZOMG, yes. Doens't the s4 only have 9??

I just pray for larger than 3000mAh,

also Adreno 330 confirmed, YES. cant wait for a TAB UI for this phone. really looking forward to buying this device, anyone with info where to buy when it's released, please share.

Also I think its aleready been certified in Indonesia http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/05/...n-indonesian-it-communications-certification/

also FM Radio! woo hoo..
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
more screenshots here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=42740294&postcount=7399
[Xperia Z General] Michealtbh:
New battery icon in those screenshots, I like it
[Xperia Z General] jmquez:
We havent had a proper leak yet? I bet plenty of Journos & other partners already have it! Come on peeps post some decent pics?
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony hints new SmartWatch incoming next week
[Xperia Z General] Hikjaf:
Any news on Xperia ZR?

Does it have washed-out screen colors like Xperia Z?

How about Wi-Fi range and drop issues?
[Xperia Z General] E!ch0:
The device should launch in next couple of days bro;)

There is already 2 XDA members r got him n wrote a review on him in my thread, check it out:)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2309028

Still here;)

N!geR --> E!ch0
[Xperia Z General] thunderising:
Excellent render.
[Xperia Z General] Lumianti:
Does someone know what camera sensor Z has? Any info why photo quality is poor? Is it software or hardware issue?
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Software, after 2011 Sony are yet to produce any good cameras
[Xperia Z General] jmquez:
Xperia Z with Snapdragon 800 chipset in the works?

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/06/23/xperia-z-with-snapdragon-800-chipset-in-the-works/
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Wouldn't buy it even if it's s800 in it.

I rather go for honami.

I don't know what's wrong with manufacturers, Sony, HTC, Samsung. this marketing strategy may have worked back then but not nowadays, creating a second better version doesn't attract customers, instead you lose customers. Trust.
[Xperia Z General] Surethom:
Photo Samples

First Sample photos from the GX, they are indoor pictures & look very nice, cant wait to see what the outdoor & night time with flash look like

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/19/first-xperia-gx-sample-photo-pics/
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Thanks for the double post

Sometimes it may be helpful to read the last posts ;)
[Xperia Z General] Efe64:
Then read before post!
[Xperia Z General] celsior360:
This is the phone to wait, cause it uses S4 snap dragon CPU which will use less power as compare to S3.

---------- Post added at 06:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:13 PM ----------

Yes, to this forum, and it's nice to meet everyone in here! :)
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I was just looking at some of the Xperia GX pics and than I noticed that Sony has already shown the international Version of the GX. Like u13x said the Sony Logo is on top and the Xperia logo under the display, not like the Japanese docomo version.