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[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PredZ:
So I got a kindle fire for my mom for mother's day...need some advice though. *Keep in mind that she used to use a touchpad running CM9, but recently broke her screen...

With that said, she also did occasionally need help with ICS. That *may* have simply been bc cm9 wasnt entirely stable on the touchpad at the time (wifi issues, occasional reboots, etc.)...do you suggest that I give her AOKP/CM9 on her Kindle Fire, or should I just leave it stock? She mainly used the touchpad for reading, simple gaming (puzzle games mainly, angry birds, etc), email, and web, basic news apps (last I know of was Google Currents).

I know most ppl suggest that stock is fine for basic users, but just wanted some other suggestions in my case, since she's coming from a CM9 touchpad...albeit she did not use ics to it's fullest IMO.

Thanks :)
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veeman:
If she's only going to be using it for that stuff then I say go with the MoDaCo Gr8 ROM. It's stable, fast, and has Google Play.

If you want ICS then go with Energy or gedeROM.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PredZ:
Thanks for the suggestion...I did see that, but I wonder how any of Amazon's auto-updates may affect it? I do not live nearby, so if somehow her firmware gets autoupdated, and it breaks things (mainly GAPPS I would assume), I wouldn't be able to fix it asap...I don't want to set false expectations :D
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrty4luv:
i would stay on stock with root,with most of the roms not being stable and you don't live close...then stock is best,i'm on stock 6.3.1 with root...if it does updated the only think is she looses root and that very easy to get back...i'm using go launcher and over clock to 1.2 ghz....all i think one would need for basic things...
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veeman:
You can modify some file and it will prevent it from updating automatically.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25648278

Here is the file that you need to rename.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25648278
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abbcccdddd:
I'd recommend AOKP Milestone 5. Remember to remove the unicorns.

HOWEVER, the recovery is extremely easy to get to, and the last time my grandmother accidentally went into recovery she wiped the entire system. Flash stock recovery if possible.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gruuvin:
I just got my mother a kindle fire and put MoDaCo Gr8 on it because I figured it would be the best of both worlds: Play Store with no updates but stock Amazon functions intact (only way to still play Amazon Prime Video, which you get free for first month). She also lives to far away for me to maintain it for her, so I decided on MoDaCo because some folks said it is immune to updates. However after reading through the MoDaCo ROM thread, I see that previous versions were not immune to updates and nobody has talked about this version being immune to updates, but some are renaming the file etc/security.otacerts.zip to be doubly sure it will be immune to updates (you dont want updates because it breaks root and Play Store). A few folks who have MoDaCo Gr8 did NOT rename this file and report that they did not get the update.

I would highly suggest the MoDaCo Gr8 ROM because it is really nice, stable, optimized, stock, has location services, rooted with Play Store and other Google services, and possibly immune to updates, but do what I failed to do when I sent mine off to my mother and rename that etc/security/otacerts.zip file. Then I think you can be reasonably sure it will be immune from updates.

You can install GO Launcher, make it the default launcher, configure a wallpaper and lock it (with KFU), and add a shortcut back to "Launcher" (kindle fire launcher) which will launch the stock looking kindle fire interface like an app... home button always brings you back to GO... this way it feels like a fully unlocked android tablet.... VERY SLICK!
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
.... will not be anything that is resolved here. It is a problem with the firmware for ICS.

I was talking to somebody at sprint today while I was there and showing them my device and asking if there will be any issues caused by having a virgin mobile ROM on the device. The lady explained to me that they are exactly the same, get the same reception, same update packages, and work on the same network, etc., etc.... All of this was known to me to some extent, but wanted to hear it from somebody at the company... and told me that the only problem they are having is with ICS in general is that there have been data/radio issues with the Galaxy Nexus line as well ever since it released on their network a few weeks ago.

Furthermore, she explained that this was a known bug/issue and that she knew for a fact that an update would be coming with a fix and that it was being worked on right now.

The reason I wanted to share this was because I have seen a lot of misinformation floating around about 1.) having a virgin mobile ROM on your device and 2.) virgin mobile ROM causing data issues - which is not the cause of the issue as I mentioned just now.

Just want you all to be aware of this in case you were thinking having this software and firmware on your device would cause any issues with your billing, your contract, etc. Simply put - it will not. Virgin mobile is owned by sprint, they run on the same towers, same network, and info of accounts is stored in the same place. You could literally walk into a sprint store to pay your bill for your virgin mobile account.

All is well. All is safe. An update will come to fix the data issues, keep your eyes peeled for it folks. We are not given source code for radios, etc., so unfortunately that needs to be fixed on the carrier/manufacturer end - and as I said, it will be fixed and they are working on it. Sit tight.

Hope this cleared up any misconception floating around.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
So, you don't really know how to fix it then? Forgive me for being a little confused, but your title is slightly misleading.
[HTC EVO 3D] Punk9:
Oh man, you have no idea how much I was freaking out about the billing. Thanks man. (Y)
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
yeah, i can see the confusion there....

re-worded, i would say it appeared to me that people thought there were data issues because of being on a virgin mobile ROM. The point I am trying to express is that the problem is the firmware, not because the ROM is for the virgin mobile 3D - if this same firmware was released for "official sprint RUU" where your banner said "sprint" they would still be having the same issues. Ex.: the lady at sprint said the galaxy nexus was having the same issue.

If that makes sense.

If not, not sure how else I can explain it.

It seemed people were crediting the problem to the fact that there device is attached to virgin mobile - this is not the case.

EDIT*** lol, nice ninja edit haus - you gotta be quicker than that ;) roffle
[HTC EVO 3D] Punk9:
I thought it was the ROM side that is giving the PRL/Data roaming and all the other network problems. Not the firmware. I say this because people have posted that they flashed the firmware, flashed the VM ICS ROM. Then went back to a GB ROM (MeanROM, MIUI, etc) and they had everything working, even though they were on the leaked firmware. But if you flashed that firmware, chad and another dev found a fix, they are going to release it sometime soon.

thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1638225&page=30
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
after half a day of having flashing back they determined the problem to be gone??

......

the issues being caused by the firmware are not constant, and apparently are rather random from what I have read. a perfect example is my own device... no issues with new firmware until today (day 3) of having it, even tho many people reported issues after just a couple of hours.

I'll talk with chad and see what he is cooking up... I havent talked to him a whole lot this weekend.

sent from ICEvo
[HTC EVO 3D] retnuh730:
I've been saying that the roaming problem (if it truly exists outside of people's self affirming observations) only exists on this ROM due to ICS and the lack of roaming options on the rom itself. The radios do nothing to mess up roaming. This is all due to it being a TEST rom that we flashed. It's absurd to think that there is a perfectly functional rom sitting around with no bugs if the only leak we can get is a Virgin Mobile version. We have a beta rom and beta radios, and we should realize that's what we signed up for when we flashed it in the first place.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
this is true... but again, what is your explanation of the galaxy nexus having the same issue, and the fact that a sprint rep was entirely aware of the issue and that is was being worked on and would come in an update?

and surprise, but any new technology is "beta" ..... whether it is an official release or not. it is the price you pay for cutting edge technology.

sent from ICEvo
[HTC EVO 3D] raptoro07:
So in essence this means that the firmware in the new radio update, which is necessary/part of ics to run on phones is the heart of the data, sms, etc. issues people are having?
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
There are some differences between how the ROM interacts with the both radios but so far it looks like everything can still be made to work.

If you're having issues with roaming try opening up the build.prop and change 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=0' to 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=1', and then use setprop to reset it. I haven't been able to test it yet but I'm fairly certain that will bring back roaming.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
from what the lady explained to me, yes it is... intermittent data loss is a bug within the new firmware for ICS

my point here is that it has nothing to do with your ROM being intended for a virgin mobile 3D. it is because of a bug within the firmware for the radios.

as i said, sprint rep explained this to me, and seemed very confident in the way she explained it - confirming it as a known issue, and also knowing that it would be fixed soon because it was being worked on and said it would be serviced as a firmware update.

sent from ICEvo
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
You think a sprint tech in the store is an authority !!

For one thing, many may not care, you lose VPN capabilities. Which I need and want and has nothing to do with ICS. Flashed back to GingerBread an it's still gone.

You may also lose the ability to properly update the PRI when new ones come out with official ICS.

It is not just a banner issue.

I'm not in a roaming area to confirm roaming issues but I believe folks when they say they can no longer roam on th 3G. I never touched my default roaming settings and it always worked fine. You may be right that roaming is only ICS issue. But it smells like it's way more than that by folks reports. And quite believable given the phone half believes it's on Virgin Mobile.

It is the PRI which manages routing that is not correct. And different folks will get different issues depending on their location.

I don't think chad and friends would be working so hard to fix it if it was such minor issue and I trust them more than some sprint sales person.

Like was stated above. There are two kinds of people. Those with issues and those with no issues, YET !!

And please FIX the broken subject.
[HTC EVO 3D] retnuh730:
This all reeks of a panic due to us not understanding the new tech in the build we have. These issues may be a side effect of the ICS ROM or could just be issues with the way ICS interacts with the radios. The only information we have is hearsay, and people tend to overestimate effects of things when they don't know what they're looking for.

We get what we deserve for flashing beta radios and a beta rom, tbh. We accepted any possible problems by flashing these and we have nobody to blame but ourselves for not researching first.

"issues" is a vague word. whats to say a person's issue is due to ICS, the radios, or anything else in particular?

The new radios made me gain 20 pounds. There's no information showing that the radios did or didn't cause this. Yet here we are proverbially attributing all these issues to one thing or the other, when in reality WE DO NOT KNOW what is causing these problems.
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
People here are not stupid. Most do backups before they try something.

I restored a backup and lost capabilities I had.

I reflashed every every sprint RUU, Reflash Hboot 1.40, restored back up and things are not the same.

If you flashed that freeza patch your phone has it's feet in both Sprint and Virgin Mobile and it's not good.

Yes, we know we screwed up. And some of us would like it fixed before we get more surprises of what does not work correctly.
[HTC EVO 3D] neo4uo:
What is the "setprop" an ADB command? Do you have to use it. I edited the build.prop how you said reset the phone and nothing changed. I am roaming and cannot connect to data. My phone's data works fine when in a coverage area, but obviously not when roaming. I never did any kind of firmware update. Hope that helps.
[HTC EVO 3D] powduh09:
This leak isn't a beta, its release keys...

sent from my nocturnaled ics 3vo
[HTC EVO 3D] Cuppeerr:
+1 this is a direct pull of the ruu for the upcoming vm evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] Punk9:
to anyone that hasn't seen it already, if you flashed this firmware, chad is working on a fix over that this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1638225&page=41
[HTC EVO 3D] Visionikz03:
successfully implemented this. Hope this solves the no roaming issue. Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] alanmv567:
How were you able to do this? I'm trying to research a little on setprop.....but still not fully understanding it
[HTC EVO 3D] Visionikz03:
edit and save the build.prop per xhaus's instructions. Then run each of these separate commands from adb:

$ adb shell

$ adb shell stop

$ adb shell setprop log.redirect-stdio true

$ adb shell start

phone will reboot automatically and ur done. Wont know if it helps until in an area of roaming. Im still waiting to see.
[HTC EVO 3D] Punk9:
For everyone having VM firmware trouble, (data loss, roaming issues, etc) chad has a fix up

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1641461&page=1
[HTC EVO 3D] Saviazi:
Unfortunately that didn't fix my data roaming. I live in an area where literally everywhere outside of my house is roaming (I've got an Airave) so it's pretty easy for me to check. :) Roaming for voice/sms works, but data itself doesn't.

What a pain this stuff is. I definitely learned my lesson about flashing blindly this time. I'm sure Chad and the rest of the crew working on this will come up with something eventually, at least.
[HTC EVO 3D] catbert77:
Changed. Will try it out today. ROM I'm on (Meanrom ICS beta) says it has the mobile options, but nothing is displayed in the setting for it. I assume it's just the ROM that has the problem, and not the underlying OS.
[General Questions and Answers] Astrul:
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[General Questions and Answers] Quinny899:
Wrong section ;)
[General Questions and Answers] Astrul:
Please Delete

Moderators please delete this post.
[General Questions and Answers] GroovyGeek:
It seems that HTC and Samsung have concluded that all men wear purses. How else can you explain the 135x70mm screen monstrosities on their phones? No one in their right mind would stick something of that size in their pocket, unless they want to impress the ladies (is that a phone in your pocket or are you happy to see me? :-) And it is uncomfortable to handle with one hand.

As much as I hate Apple for their insistence of dumbing down everything to the lowest common denominator, you have to give them credit for standing their ground and sticking with sub-120mm screen sizes. IMO this is the max tolerable in a phone, even the Lumia is somewhat too big. Size is the main reason I went with an HTC Aria two years ago, and I never regretted the decision.

I like the idea of Android, my life revolves around Google so having the tight integration of gmail and everything else is very important to me, Sense is oh so nice, and living without Swype and Tasker is going to be painful. Basic parameters I am looking for, in order of importance

AT&T, don't have any flexibility there

Icecream-capable, via custom ROM if necessary

sub-120mm screen (height) is very strongly preferred

good battery life is important

good voice quality is important, this is my main complaint about the Aria

good GPS antenna is desirable but not mandatory

removable battery and micro-SD capability are nice to have

don't care about 4G

don't care about screen resolution, I mostly read text on my phone

don't care about the camera

Does that describe a null set? Before I plunk down $200 for an iPhone 4S please save me from myself and tell me that there is a way.
[General Questions and Answers] LogisticsXLS:
Blame evolution.

Pants makers everywhere are forgetting how big the pocket should be.

People hands are getting bigger. I myself have hotdog fingers.

Let's also not forget that purses seem to get bigger as well. Last time I checked my friends keep making fun of my girlfriend "luggage" she carries around.
[General Questions and Answers] chaki-:
I have very big hands and i wear it in my jeans. Slightly noticeable. So i don't worry for that. That's why they provide many different kind of size. Pick one up and be happy ;)
[General Questions and Answers] Div033:
I have small hands and can't handle anything bigger than 4.3" screen size (converts to roughly 109mm, but that's not counting the chassis). Of the latest "superphones" I can only hold the iPhone 4S and the HTC Rezound. However, I am really glad verizon is releasing a One S variant at a 4" (102mm) screen size called the Incredible 4G LTE. That will probably end up being my next phone.

At this rate the Galaxy S6 will look identical to the Galaxy Tab 7.

Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
[General Questions and Answers] sreza:
By far the best device coming out in the near future is the Asus Padfone. I highly recommend looking it up on Youtube.
[General Questions and Answers] 85gallon:
Its there an at&t Motorola equivalent to the droid x? 127mm overall height on my vzw version.
[General Questions and Answers] Parcae:
I have a Motorola Bravo, which I feel is a highly underrated phone. It's super cheap on pay as you go, and quite small. Virtually the entire front of the phone is taken up by the 3.7" screen, so there's no wasted space.

I will never understand why manufacturers insist on churning out phones with gigantic bezels. If you need the extra space, then stop trying to turn out devices one micron thick.
[General Questions and Answers] GroovyGeek:
Agree... to me the much more critical dimension is the height and width. I will take a 120x60x12mm device over 135x75x7mm any time of day.

On the topic of the original question... after doing some digging I have discovered that

a) Google contacts will now sync transparently with iOS

b) Gmail will push to iOS

c) Google Voice and Google Places are decent

d) Google Reader is a passable approximation of a dedicated reader on iOS

f) and most importantly, there is a version of Swype. You have to jailbreak, and the current rev is kind of limited and rough, but at least it exists.

Seems like my days with Android are limited. My wife's old 3GS is now in my pocket, will be there for a few weeks to see how I like it, but from everything I am seeing it gives me most of what I need with a decent sized screen.
[General Questions and Answers] HumanXv2:
They're not purses they're satchels
[General Questions and Answers] hungry81:
Hey op, this site may be more your cup of tea: http://onetinyhand.com/

Maybe you should also buy pants with decent sized pockets.

This is without doubt the worst add for apple devices I have heard. Ever.

It's not like there are not any compact android, BB or Wp7 devices out there.

Tiny hand Kim Jong-il salutes you.
[General Questions and Answers] Zamboney:
I have a Note and it fits very well in my pants, thank you. Obviously you're not used to large things in your pants...
[General Questions and Answers] sreza:
Now now, let's be civil here.
[General Questions and Answers] Zamboney:
I believe the OP started it by making generic statements that are obviously false. It might not fit his Spandex pants without pockets but they fit well in most normal ones.
[General Questions and Answers] LogisticsXLS:
I don't think the OP made this thread with the thought of starting something in the first place.
[General Questions and Answers] hungry81:
[Sarcasm]No it was a well thought out factual reason that apple is superior to android/everyone else. All other phones are too big for the ops tiny hands and extra small pockets. And that's fair enough. [/sarcasm]

However if he knew how to use Google he would find that android phones and even blackberry phones come in all sizes. So attributing saviour status to apple is rather erronious and therfore this thread is nothing but misinformation and drivel as you would expect from a sterotypical Apple fan.
[General Questions and Answers] GroovyGeek:
What I asked for:

a) AT&T

b) Android

c) 4.0 compatible, either out of the box or via custom ROM

d) <120mm chassis size

If you care to point me to a solution I will gladly consider it.

Maybe you should learn to read (and spell) because the "drivel" is coming from you . How exactly does "As much as I hate Apple for their insistence of dumbing down everything to the lowest common denominator" constitute Apple fandom. Seems that you are the mindless Android fanboi.

Moderator, I am sure that my latest comment violates some board guideline. Feel free to delete this post and close this thread. Obviously I am not going to get any useful information here.
[General Questions and Answers] GroovyGeek:
The large things are already there, so there is no need to compensate with a phone... It seems that you need some help in that department.
[General Questions and Answers] sitizenx:
Put the phone in the breast pocket of your suit coat. They can easily accommodate a 135x70mm phone. Don't carry a purse. It will send the wrong signal. Think about it, nice suite VS a purse. Not a hard decision.

Watch this and enjoy.
[General Questions and Answers] sreza:
Asus Padfone. Fits all requirements, and still better than everything else on the market.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBTc3gn7jBE

Can we let the posturing die please?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GeneralSky2004:
On Calk's ICS rom, the latest version. Previously, if you wanted to change your input method while the keyboard was active, you could drag the notification bar down and then there was an option in there to change it on the fly. Now, that option is gone, and you have to go back into the settings to change it.. Rather annoying.

Any ideas?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
Did you try tapping and holding in the text field?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MeWarning:
The ability to do that was removed cause it was cluttering up the notification bar. Sorry, gotta do it the long way now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ravaged Pheonix:
^this

Sent from my ridiculously long named phone ---

Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch
[Xperia Play General] babycakes505:
Most of us who are with vzw.

Have recived the 234 update.

Is any 1 having problems connecting to gtalk?

So far that seems to be my only issue with the update :-/.

Also my nextwork status bars are gray. Usually its green, Idk if thats another issue. W/the 234 update?