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[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
A source is more reliable when they post something that's "reasonable" or "plausible". It's not rocket science to predict what's coming, but to jump ahead too much is just getting too much ahead of yourself. There are no brands that would shoot themselves in the foot by making something that they can barely produce, and by the time next year comes around, they can't enhance it's successor enough. These gradual upgrades are there for a reason.

I'm a fanboy before I was in this position, and I still am, however, the truth is the truth. I don't expect Sony to be squashing Samsung or LG and whatnot, they know very well what level they are on compared to other vendors, but their approach is different. The "One" strategy is what they're aiming for, and if you do notice, other vendors are trying to buy off companies to do the same. Integrating services is definitely something that will be leverage over others in the future. This is one advantage the fruit company has over others for a long long time. They're able to integrate so many things to work with their device flawlessly. Sony is not going to rely on Google to pave the path, which is why they're pushing for this. So don't keep the hopes that they aiming for hardware, but rather they're going head on on the software front.

Regarding the news, what gives it away that it's total BS is the Playstation Certified. Not all new devices (even high-ends) will be Playstation Certified. This is to maintain the niche of each devices. Also, go read the post they're basing off from again. Ion 4G and Ion LTE? Wtf is the difference?
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
∵ LTE has 3 chars + 4G has 2 chars

∴ 4G < LTE

□
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Yeah, I saw that original post and while I'll remain hopeful that it's true, I realize I should know better than to get my hopes up over a rumour.

I guess what's always in the back of my mind is that I hope that with SMC and the One Sony mentality going on, and with the fact that we know different divisions of Sony are finally talking to one another and will be borrowing and learning from one another, there will be some big things in the future. While the reality is that Sony isn't a huge player in the mobile marketplace as of right now, I would hope that they don't want to be content in just maintaining their position or growing just a bit. One would hope that they have the mentality of, "let's tear the mobile industry a new one and show them what Sony can really do!" Yes, making an ultra superphone that's a fanboys wet dream would put them in the position of saying, "where do we go from here?" when it comes time for the next gen. While I'm not a complete hardware whore, there is a certain satisfaction from being able to say that your device has the best hardware currently available. The reality is that Sony has released enough devices this year to cover pretty much every market segment out there except the ultra high end. An international version of the GX would put them right up there against what else is out right now, but the fanboys will always long for a device that'll clearly stand out from the crowd. I guess that's where phones like this rumoured one step in.

I guess that I would love to see a cell phone revolution from Sony, rather than the cell phone evolution we will probably just get. Reality can be a ***** when it sinks in and you realize that what you want isn't always realistic, but what can ya do? :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
So all n all the whole thing about another flagship Xperia Z (C,E,Y) are just rumours !!!

from xperia PLAY (enjoying N.O.V.A.3)
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
It just comes from a post by XperiaTM in the comments section of an XperiaBlog article:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/06/13/xperia-miro-unveiled-by-sony-mobile/#comment-556081464

XperiaBlog seemed to take notice enough of this post to warrant a new article stating that at least some of what was contained in that post seemed to correlate with info they'd heard from their own sources. That's pretty much the extent of all of this. We don't know how close Xperiablogs own info is to what XperiaTM posted as they don't seem to want to elaborate any further. If I had to take a guess at what happened, they have inside sources who shared info to them, but they didn't want to post it due to them seeming so outlandish. Then someone makes a post that supports those wild rumours they recieved, so they decided it was time to post it. Even they can't confirm if it's true or not, so they just tossed it out there for the world to see. I suppose that way if the rumours are true, then they can at least say, "hey! We broke this exclusive an entire week before the official annoucement!" :)

EDIT.

BTW, since you're around Unknown, do you have any knowledge about Sonys flexible OLED displays? They recently announced a 9.9" display that should be great for tablets, but hopefully we'll one day see them on phones. Considering how new this tech is though, I'm doubtful you may have any info yet (hell, Sony themselves may not have an ETA on when they'll be on the market), but I figured I might as well ask :)
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
You know maybe xperiatm is just xperia blog they just wanted to you know not claim we got it through our sources but base them on someone else. They did get into trouble with Sony Ericsson previously and did some agreement maybe that's why the whole being oh xperiatm posted and we saw here's a blog post. Cause I saw the comment before the post and I thought well someone is seriously being sarcastic here.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Off topic:

For time being I got Xperia S ;)
[Xperia Z General] kekkle:
I will be getting a Xperia S as well. Since I'm in Europe and the Ion is getting releases in September which is already late. And the GX doesn't even look as slick as the Xperia S
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Good for you :D

I guess i will be the only one here who wait for the GX :>
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Sony LT30/Mint appears in benchmarks, on several UAprofs and there are some pics taken with Mint on Picasa

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/06/1...ark-uaprofs-outed-along-with-sample-pictures/

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Count me in! :)

This comes straight from Xperiablog:

Interesting. If they are not going to show new Xperias, then what else will they show? Just the recently announced low-end handsets?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I will also buy GX for sure, will make XS my secondary device.

from Xperia S
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Told you guys there's LT30at ;) We may see both devices this 20th. Doesn't seem like Sony has anything else to offer, and they have to make up for all the buzz right now. There should be 4 devices coming if I'm not mistaken.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
What matters is the release dates

from Xperia S
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Hope you are right and we'll see both devices next week along with some other goodies. But Xperiblog is now reporting that we won't see any new devices at 20th June, which would be a bit strange.
[Xperia Z General] TwoPointZero:
It's not really breaking news, but with echoes of TSMC having difficulties spewing enough 28nm S4s for their customers, and Qualcomm in particular, (as recently shown with htc one s "Ville C2" @ 1.7GHz), aren't you worried about availability of the high-end lineup in due time ?
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
@zymo last quote not true
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
looks like mint is coming directly to AT&T, not sure about the a version. do you know what will be the difference other than LTE band? like locking or cpu difference?

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that's not something consumer has to worry about?
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
So we might see the Hayabusa, Mint, Lotus and a mysterious device this 20th? :p

I wonder the device is the high end or mid end :D

Unknow, Do you have any info about that? :>
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
^

Ray successor
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Guys, I got some very bad news but I can't tell what exactly till I'm allowed. Only thing I can say is that get your hopes down
[Xperia Z General] kekkle:
Cancelled. Japan-only. Same devices. Could be anything. Wasn't Expecting much more this year from Sony anyway.
[Xperia Z General] androidlover20:
I have already purchased Samsung Galaxy S3..............................I am ready for any NEWS now :)
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
you are just watching a drama with your popcorn
[Xperia Z General] welshlad:
That exploding birthday cake I sent to Justin Bieber was intercepted??
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Im ready for all the bad news :<

Please just give us a little hint so that we won't expect too much for the up coming event T_T

Edit: If you are talking about those OLED Xperia Z, Y etc I don't mind :))

All I need is the announcement of the Hayabusa :))
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
I sense a trap! I shall get my hopes up even higher now. :)
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Very Bad News? So Hayabusa got axed in favor of Mint and ION?! Kinda had such feeling after the ION HSPA+ version was announced. If that's the very bad news, then it's time to move on for me! :(
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Well worst case is that no high end phones will be announced next week and we won't hear a peep about hayabusa or mint for some time.

Wonder how bad this news could be.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Worst case would be no intentional GX at all.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Lol, come to think of it the worst case scenario is that SMC is being sold to Apple or Samsung :(

Realistically speaking though, you're probably right for worst case scenarios.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
No trap, just bad news, have to be patient. Thats all I can say, I'm not allowed to say anymore than this

Edit:

U13x, since there is an UAProf of the LT29i, is it going to be introduced the 20th? Yes or no, or aren't you sure?
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
And when are you allowed to say more? And how bad are the news, just bad or very bad ?
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Till 20th. Just bad
[Xperia Z General] chrisp7:
Xperia Acro S isnt coming to the UK:(

Xperia S then is the best you can get here.

Im still sticking to GX/SX release in September and Mint 2013. A bet on the 'bad' news; SX released in September Worldwide and GX in October OR for the GX to be not worldwide and Sony to release a Nexus with similar specs to GX. Looks most realistic to me.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Correct. I think it was mentioned at the time, but not all sites picked up on it.

However, if Vodafone, O2, Three etc showed an interest in it, it could theoretically come here as a network exclusive. I'd say that given networks are shown products on roadmaps many months before they're announced, it means the networks here had already said no.

Networks are being increasingly choosy these days. It makes sense not to have to manage huge inventories of loads of different models, colours and configurations. It's different with Apple as there's still essentially just one model per year (or so) and it's more manageable - plus Apple offers a degree of protection and will take unsold stock back (and with huge profit margins, Apple doesn't care).

There's always the SIM-free route though, which (IMO) is still the best way to buy a phone. Then use PAYG or a pay-monthly contract to give you the freedom to swap and change network/tariff to snag the best deals/promotions.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Nobody has accurate info as of..may be next week will bring some useful details..enjoy ur weekends :)
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Check this out guys :D

http://sonyviet.vn/2012/06/nhung-buc-anh-sac-net-duoc-chup-tu-xperia-mint-lt30i/

These are the photo samples from the Mint :D It look promising :)

I guess the last pic is in low light condition, so there might be an improvement of the camera for the Mint and hopefully for the Hayabusa too :X

The site is just a Vietnamese Sony fan site, so it is not OFFICIAL kay? :D
[Xperia Z General] mrsanches:
Always making screen bigger...

the only thing I like from that, is that in future, 4'' inches cellphones will be midrange and a lot more cheaper

the size of Xperia Arc is the borderline limit for cellphones, more than that, its just too much
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Someone who alwas had good info in the past just told me that the Mint should cone to AT&T in October.

Sony Xperia Z LT30at will be available on?

The mint "aka Bond phone" will be available this Fall. No set release date yet though I heard October-ish.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
If the rumor about the Mint is the Xperia Z and announce in Oct...

Sony want to compete with all the competitors?? O.o

Iphone 5, Nokia Lumia WP8, Galaxy note 2 etc....

and those Nexus phones...

If its true, this October is going to be a very exciting month :))
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
you are crazily positive

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I wonder if mint is coming directly (delayed) and hayabusa is Xed

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xperia nexus sounds like a good news? I'm fine with whatever if LT30a/at/p is the nexus, and both mint and hayabusa are gone.

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mint/hayabusa = lady on the chair or girl on the horse? I can't find any picture of the device
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
If the AT&T Mint is coming out in October than everybody else will have it a month or two before. AT&T is always late releasing phones unless it is an iPhone or GS3.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
All the pics are taken from the Mint LT30i :D

We all know Sony well enough that they will give us hint about the camera quality 1st before any "unexpected" leaked blurry images right? :)
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
And I will let you know if I hear of any changes. :-).

Sent from my Lumia 900
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Lotus was already announced. That was the Xperia Go. No one's quite sure what's on the 20th. But I'm more than positive that there won't be anything announced then, just displaying the Miro and Tipo is my guess.

I'm already looking at 2013 devices btw :D
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Randomuser over at the esato forums seems convinced that there will at least be a 5 inch, 1080p phone for 2013.

Btw, feel free to drop any hints like OLED, xenon flash, vitaphone... anything you would like unknown :-)
[Xperia Z General] hei133:
Sigh, 5" OLED screen/cybershot sounds good for regaining some hype/reputation as a flagship but I would really rather welcome some concrete announcement of LT29i release soon. The last oled screen I used was really almost non-readable under bright sun, so my preference would still be a nice sharp IPS non-pentile LCD.

Had enjoyed Xperia S, Sony did a good job of on XS software and battery life was actually quite okay so non-removable battery wasn't a big deal, but I really missed the sd card support. GX seemed just the right balance as per specs for a 2012 phone.

Here's hoping that the bad news is not cancellation of LT29i, or a super delayed release like the Xperia ION.... :P
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Sony recently announced a 9.9 inch OLED with a white subpixel similar to white magic display tech, so if they were to expand that to cell phone displays it should help a lot for daytime viewing and more realistic colours. Hopefully we can get OLED where white is actually white.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I really need to start applying for a Sony Mobile internship :P Do they still do development (web/Android) in Sweden (or any other part of Europe)?
[Xperia Z General] draugaz:
This is actually something very different from what current *OLED displays are and I am afraid not terribly energy efficient, since white OLEDs are covered with color filters.

So while you will get better contrast than standard LCDs, said filters will block considerable amount of light.

Now add the inevitable inefficiences due to the separate switching of each and every small pixel and it suddenly does not look pretty in context of battery powered mobile devices.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Well I suppose we'll have to wait for official specs to say just how power hungry it will be compared to other techs on the market.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Nice one.
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Which is exactly why I'll keep my mouth shut until November/December :D
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
One of my 'claims to fame' was being paid by Samsung to look at their road map for the year ahead - which is done in April the year before (so April 2010 for the 2011 roadmap). It gives a clue as to how far ahead they work on designs.

As such, I'd say that if Sony is the same, you won't see any radical changes design wise until 2013 - and that's assuming when Sony took full control they decided to take the design team (based in Sweden) in a totally different direction. If they didn't, expect the same design theme to carry through for a while longer.

BTW, it was me and two other journos (including one from Stuff magazine) that saw the design of what became the Galaxy Nexus S. Except it was originally designed to be a normal Samsung phone. Sadly I didn't do any consultancy for them last year or this year - so didn't get to see the Galaxy S III. I'm pretty sure they'd have been 'almost there' with it last April.

Lots of things can change. Of all the handsets we saw and gave advice on, probably only 20-25% of them ever went into production.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Can you give us some hints about the 2013? :D

For design, are they look better than the current devices? :>

And the Screen siz pls? :p

Edit: is there any chance that we will see a Device with Vita OS by next year? :))

Sorry for being too greedy XD
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Just to inform you guys that nobody has any information for the 2013 line up, only the few core designers from Sony must be knowing and I dont think they belong here..

Just hold ur horses till 20th June to see wat Sony has in store except Tipo, Miro..

Expecting atleast GX international version..

from xperia S
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Yeah, I think the GX is enough for me to wait for Sony next device powered by Vita OS :D

Hopefully the GX will be announced by 20th :P
[Xperia Z General] erraz:
I just want international gx:(
[Xperia Z General] hei133:
Probably for a oled screen based device, probably Sony will have to spend time on skinning of OS and apps in order to switch to a dark based scheme, just to save battery life. :)
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Like xperia.awesome said, no one knows the line-up. I only seen renders of them from a powerpoint, and from my experience these past years, only a few of them will make it to production, so there's definitely no point for me to share anything right now.

Also, at this stage, only designers would know products of 2014. Each devices takes almost 2 years of development. 2013 devices' design should be done by now, but the matter of picking hardware and development that takes much longer.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Ty for your reply ;)

I guess its too early to talk about the 2013 devices now :<

So all i hope now is the release date of the Hayabusa or Mint :o
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
from the line up of 2012 so far. 2010/2011's power point had tones of devices?
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Not all devices were presented at the time, but some, like the S was there. :)

Sorry guys, but I have absolutely no info for the 20th to share. So I don't know if anything will be announced at all.
[Xperia Z General] supercoolman:
for the first time in many years, you are looking forward to a sony mobile announcement?
[Xperia Z General] LahiruRD:
:D
[Xperia Z General] lokenok:
acro hd or hayabusa.. gx? help me decide

btw hayabusa looks like it got a glowing sony logo !!!

looks so cool
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
LT29i/Hayabusa wasn't announced yet. First you should wait if there will be a hayabusa at all.

Don't know about Hayabusa, but GX indeed got a glowing Sony logo. This is known for quite a long time now and was mentioned earlier. Maybe you should read this thread first ;)
[Xperia Z General] karun11:
That was the Japanese version. We'll have to see if its the same with the international version.
[Xperia Z General] georgesmh:
videos showed the international hayabusa with the glowing sony logo, but who knows it might not even be the international hayabusa
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
Nope. We haven't seen the international version on video yet, only the japan version for DoCoMo. The international version should have the Sony logo on top, like all current Sony Xperias like XS, U, P, Acro S..... There is only one render which might show the int. version of the GX
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Mobile steps up cooperation with Taiwan-based handset ODMs
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
TBH, I don't like this move from Sony :<

I want something that Sony design by themselves, i don't really care who going to manufacture the devices...

I hope these ODMs will only do the low and mid end devices to reduce cost

For the High end will be purely from Sony design team :X
[Xperia Z General] alankstiyo:
think about it, it could be good considering that they might be creating another companies handsets, read htc
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
That is why i don't like it

They might end up like Dell and Asus

Its going to be bad for Sony if one or some of their ODMs come out and selling the own devices which might be a little identical to Sony devices but better quality...

that is what i fear, i hope its not going to be true though :D
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
CommunicAsia 2012 starting tomorrow.

http://asia.cnet.com/communicasia-2012-kicks-off-on-june-19-62216718.htm

Other companies, such as Canon and Panasonic, will be announcing some new products at the trade show as well. Sony Mobile will also be holding a fringe event on Wednesday, where we're expecting to meet the latest Xperia smartphones, the tipo and the miro.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Because CNET is such a reliable source. Just because they expect the Miro and Tipo to be there doesn't mean there won't be anything else. Probably nothing special at all, but perhaps some existing devices that will be introduced in global markets.
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
I thought Sony would not attend CA this year? But according to CNET they have a "fringe event" at CA on 19th June. Most likely the will display some recently announced devices and the next day on 20th bloggers will have some hands-on time with the new devices.

Hoping to see Hayabusa 10/10 :D

Believing to see Hayabusa 1/10 :(
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Wednesday and 20th June is same :)

sent from seXperia S
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
FAIL! :) Sorry my bad. Thought the CA event would take place on 19th June, but actually it's 20th. :rolleyes:

So 2 events on the same day? One at CA and the other at a "cafe"?
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Sony Ericsson used to do this, so it's not an exceptional idea for the company. And, as you thought, it was low-end stuff.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Xperia Acro S will be showcased by Sony in Communicasia, still no news about GX :banghead:

sent from seXperia S
[Xperia Z General] zymo:
This comes from Rubenos over at esato forum.

By Wednesday we'll know for sure whether they're attending CA or not.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Or they might announce different Devices at the 2 events? :D

I bet they will introduce High-End device at Rubenos's Location

and those Low and Mid Entry phones including the Miro and Go at the CA? :p
[Xperia Z General] chrisp7:
The imminent bad news as predicted is obviously no new devices launched. Makes the most sense imo.