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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I don't think thats an issue at all. There are still yakjuxx variants that are still on 4.0.1 and 4.0.2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Which ones are yakjuxx, the ones straight from Samsung?

My reasoning is that Google would want people to buy the Nexus from the Play Store in the future so they could control their image as a company rather than a carrier like Verizon or a manufacturer. It is important for them to protect their image, so people will use their services, where they make the bulk of their money. I could be wrong though.

At any rate, it doesn't seem like Google is happy with Verizon and their controlling nature. There is a reason they were reluctant to release a Nexus on VZW in the past, and that they are now offering the Gnex from the Play Store for a great price. VZW has too much power, and ultimately the customer suffers. VZW has a great network, but it's not worth all the problems Android fans have to deal with.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah, yakjuxx variants are service by Samsung.

The thing is, alot of what you are saying is based on hearsay and rumors. We don't really know past what is on the Internet. AOSP is a small project and does not give any guidance or decisions on what and how phones and carriers are mated. Google isn't going to push off Verizon, as Verizon has helped Android grow. Android didn't really take off like wild fire until the Moto Droid and the Droid line of devices. I realize I am just talking about the US, but the US is not a small country that should be shrugged off and it has an impact on technology purchased.

This is not the first Nexus proposed to Verizon, however is the first one they accepted.

This isn't the first time that Google has tried to sell unsubsidized units themselves as well. It wasn't until they brought the phone out in carrier stores that the Nexus One sold more units. Now it is kind of a reversal, but most sales are still made in stores.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
Oh boy I just learned about this (unconfirmed) rumor for new nexus phones. I've been waiting to jump back to android (after owning the g1 back in the day) but haven't seen a likely candidate. I'm a big fan of the qwerty but nothing has been quality since the g2.

Any rumors on what the 5 phone types will be? I've read 2 are tablets. I really really hope one will be a qwerty. I would be back to android in a flash.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JaiaV:
That's not an announcement. That's rumor/speculation. They aren't the same thing. Google announces things pretty much just like Apple: whenever they're ready to. I really wish folks would learn the difference between information releases / announcements and rumors and speculation meant to produce pageviews for ad revenue.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] austriker27:
I know I know, it was late and I meant to address the rumor that they might announce something next week. Either way its an exciting rumor no less as it has generated tons of articles and discussion
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Comet1966:
Hey does anyone know if there is a website that has the Sprint Galaxy Nexus for under 99.99$ ???
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gene_Bailey:
Personally I don't. But were I you, I would be searching Amazon Wireless, Wirefly, best buy mobile, and sprints websites. I don't know any others that sell contracts for the US :-\
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Comet1966:
thanls

thanks, I have been watching sprints website, wirefly, and Amazon and amazon just dropped there price to 100$ a few days ago, just wondering if anyone knows of anything even cheaper?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
I'm hoping the Verizon GNex will drop to $100 with an upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Wirefly has if for $99 if you are eligible for an upgrade as well as Amazon...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zetsumeikuro:
That probably won't happen for awhile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
Mine was $29.99 after the upgrade price on Bell. 3 year contract but they give me the new activation price every 2 years (actually a month or so before 2 years oddly enough..)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
I bet.

It's $150 currently but seeing the Sprint variant drop to $100 gives me some hope.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zetsumeikuro:
Have you tried searching for a cheap used one?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nklenchik:
I hope so, then my Dad will finally get a bargain :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jmattp:
It's only a penny on Amazon Wireless.

Did anyone say that already?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
I think they are looking for upgrade prices and not new customers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dymmeh:
check wireflyfriends.com

upgrades are $20
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tututetue:
I don't know

What i hate about this phone is that it is almost a perfect phone, but the battery is not the greatest battery ever....but it's a good one. The same for the camera which is quite good but not perfect...i had the iphone 4 and it's sad to think it give best pictures than a phone being released a year and a half after...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I think Apple focuses more on than camera than Android phone manufacturers.

Most of the people I know who really take photos don't use phones anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jmattp:
I've taken some really great photos with my Galaxy Nexus, and I've seen some nice ones online. It takes good photos when the lighting is right and if you don't move your hands while you're taking the shot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I have decent shots too, but I don't even use my phone camera really. Wanna know what I use my camera for? Saving information. It is great to grab a quick capture of a page of notes, serial numbers, and hard to reach service tags.

Call me weird, but that is where I find value in a cell phone camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I've done this many times too, probably almost half of my camera use. Starting to think I'm going to get the Nexus now that Google has it for $349 starting today. Was going to go with the S3, but $200 less for stock android is hard to ignore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
Lately is more about software than hardware. The Galaxy Nexus dual core...1gb RAM...720p screen...its all great. Maybe just needs better processor.

But I LOVE pure untouched stock Android. Sure the Galaxy S3 has better specs, but Touchwizz ****ing sucks. Its so plain and boring. Just no need for it on an Android ICS based phone.

The HTC One X is better than the S3 in my opinion, if you need a manufacturer UI, Sense is the best, second to stock.

For me there is only phone I am drooling for this year = Nexus-Four.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ivan08v:
Telling your friends they are holding the phone upside-down when you activate 180° rotation has no price ;)

I had backflip, milestone, milestone 2, defy, sgs, sgs2 and then Gnex

Now for me Android=Nexus

Software integration vs HW
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
I agree with sense. I had a tmo gs2(coming from a Mytouch 4g slide) and touchwiz ruined my experience I vowed to only buy Sony/HTC/Samsung Nexus phones or really good HTC phones, but ill stick to the nexus. Ill be buying my galaxy nexus this month :D, and the one after that if made by one of the carriers I listed :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
I always take interest in the latest phones released. But nothing has caught my eye to make e lose interest in the nexus. I like the whole package of a nexus, its more of a project phone. I like having a device that has full released code. Its like a living project more than just a commercial device. Always able to get new code releases and change it by the devs. Its way more fun as that package over the latest hardware specs. Plus its looks are timeless and gorgeous. That does it for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jayrod1980:
Honestly I'm only really jealous of the one x ips LCD screen. This screen is fine on the nexus but I think better battery life overall would be achieved with that screen. Probably a little more uniform quality as well. Yes you give up some deepness in blacks, but not nearly as much as you used to. As for pentile, at 720p I can't see it and I have perfect vision. If the one x had never come out I would not have cared about the screen.

That being said, the hardware on the Nexus is fine. Its easily enough to hold me over for at least a year, maybe more. I love the line, and only getting a new version nexus will keep me from keeping this phone over a year. This is actually the first phone I've had that actually feels complete. Its not really lacking anywhere power wise. I felt the nexus s and before that all the other 5 android phones I've owned, including the first, the g1, were a bit pokey and frustrating to use after a while. Much of this is the improvement of the browser in ics and having a dual core with dual channel memory. More hardware acceleration doesn't hurt either. I used to need the best specs, but I'm finally content with this phone. I'd rather the screen not get any bigger as one handed things are about at my limit with this screen.

Also, the timely software updates can never be overstated. Getting new android updates makes these phones feel new every time we get a major update. I feel this is the only real apple level supported device. It is meant to last more than just 6 months as most androids tend to feel.

Omap is also an excellent choice for hardware. I pray they keep using the soc, the radio bands and open sourcing matched with power vr line gpus are an excellent combination.

The only things I'm jealous of are the one x screen, the sgs3 SD card slot, and the razr maxx battery. I hope Google gives us an SD card option in the future with the next device but its not a deal breaker.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
But all the best custom firmware is usually released on the Nexus FIRST, as well as the newest stock firmware. Also if you look at hardware ONLY you may get stuck with a locked bootloader, unable to change your firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
I think having more than 2 A9's is VERY battery inefficient. Just upgrade to 2 A15's already.

-coughs- Samsung...

EDIT: Also, Sticky this thread?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Step666:
The major custom ROMs like CM, AOKP etc tend to be released pretty much simultaneously for a wide range of handsets.

I'll give you the point about stock firmware but as I touched upon before, if we were all just going to stick with stock firmware, why would we be here?

If you only consider the best hardware available, that basically limits you to HTC and Samsung.

HTC let you unlock your bootloader and Samsung don't lock theirs.

I take your point though, it was a slight over-simplification on my part. I should've said that I pick my devices based on what has the best hardware, provided it's not a Motorola ;)

Not that I see Motorola competing at the very top level any time soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
The only thing I disagree with in these post is Dev support and roms.....The Gnex has about a third of the Roms and Development as the SGSII....especially the I777. It was also like that on The last Nexus.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Only because we don't:

Use zip roms

have GB and ICS roms

Have touchwiz roms

Have a need for debloat roms

I can live with that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HeCareth:
Good point,

Plus didn't that phone come out 4 or so months before the Nexus came out? Of course it will have more ROMS it had a nice headstart before the Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
The Nexus is the best due to first getting updates, way before the HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3. I will only buy "Nexus' phones from now on.

And I know a lot of people complain that previous Nexus phones take much longer than anticipated to get the official next big Android release, and that is true if you wait for your carrier to send you the update, look at the Nexus-One taking 2 months to get Gingerbread after the Nexus-S release, or Sprint's Nexus-S 4G took like 4 months to get the official update, after the Galaxy Nexus release.

But we are on XDA :) Those updates get pushed out right away in the form of a new ROM. So the Nexus-S 4G did have a custom ICS ROM very fast after release, it wasn't an official release, but was still pretty damn good, and didn't have to wait 4 months, more like a week or so.

Will be the same most likely with Android 5.0 "Jellybean", the Nexus-Four obviously will be the first to ship with Android 5.0 in November most likely, and our Galaxy Nexus might get that update in a couple weeks, or couple months from Google directly, but with XDA, someone will for sure make a Jellybean ROM to work on our Galaxy Nexus much faster than waiting for the official push from your carrier, it might not be 100% perfect release, but should still be pretty good.

Good luck on waiting for the Galaxy S3 or One X to get a pure AOSP Jellybean port right away. CM10 won't be out for those phones for a few months after the Nexus-Four release, but at least the Galaxy Nexus will get it first.

Or if you are in the market for a new phone, don't buy the One X or S3 now, just wait a few months longer for the Nexus-Four, which will be out in Fall, at least the international GSM version, and maybe one U.S. carrier. I am hoping Google sticks with the unlocked GSM release on the Play/Market store, and makes it available at launch, that would be amazing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KennyG123:
Exactly this. Remember GS2 is just getting ICS. They been on GB and Touchwiz for awhile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
So Galaxy S users like having a dozen touchwiz roms? I'm confused.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mobius360:
You know I wet back and forth after the Evo LTE was announced about what I wanted to do. I knew from my Epic 4G slider that I didn't want something with a skin and that I had out grown the desire to have the keyboard.

I think the biggest issue for me with the Epic was it released with 2.1 eclair instead of 2.2 froyo which had been out for months. Then Samsung promised the update and it took an extremely long time. The upgrade to 2.3 gingerbread was even worse probably. Then updates broke things like wifi or GPS and it took a ridiculous amount of time to get a minor update. I basically told myself at that time my next phone would be a nexus.

So when it came time to put my money down, Sprint put out the nexus first, my renewal was good to go and my Epic started having some serious issues receiving texts. I knew the Evo was right around the corner though too and on paper it's a better phone. It's going to be a much bigger seller than the nexus no doubt as well. Most people have no idea why they might want the nexus and the carriers don't really promote the nexus line much either.

So anyway as I was deciding I remembered that I hated all the software pre-installed, the never ending wait from the carriers which may still be an issue with a CDMA nexus, and having been running CM9 on my Epic I knew I really liked the pure ICS experience. HTC and Samsung decided to do their thing and while I'm sure both experiences will be good for end users, I wanted no part of it. The good thing is at least the new Evo has 4.0 out the box and that's one thing I will never do is buy another phone on the previous OS.

The next thing I realized is my Epic was still more than capable running anything I used the phone for just fine, so the better processor in the Nexus would be suitable for my needs, I would have loved for this to be the S4 chip but it is what it is.

I've had my phone now for almost 2 weeks and I love the way ICS is just stock. I love adding the things I want to my phone and not having strange un-removable apps. I'm more than happy with the upgraded screen over my Epic which I thought was still really nice. I'm not really having any camera issues I heard so many complain about. The nexus plastic feels fine to me in hand too, I do use a case and screen protection skin. To me the big miss on this nexus was skipping out on gorilla glass, my old phone 2 years no scratches, my first defective nexus 8 days, very careful 3 slight scratches, maybe a fluke but it happened to my phone no less.

As long as Google makes a nexus phone I'm pretty sure it's my route of choice from this point forward.;

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ragnar:
+1 :thumbup: my thoughts identical, and I loved my Epic, to date best gutsiest phone I ever had.

Sent using a cell phone....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KennyG123:
That is why I am torn between the G-Nex and the upcoming GS3. I know devs will make AOSP ROMs in a minute for it and like having the option of a Touchwiz ROM. Being on the OG Epic and having all those choices made it more fun IMHO.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
I really hope they complete sense for the g-nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
This device will be in my hands until my upgrade is here! Best device I've ever owned.

Besides the tablet market Is picking up. And I do prefer a larger screen. In the past three years I've had over ten Android devices! This is my Nexus...

sent from a Android device :)

I'm always on!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Epix4G:
Yep and nexus has these roms with mostly no bugs ...show me a cm9 rom for the evo 3d with everything working.....oh you can't and that is with toast working on it.....they are really at a disadvantage on htc devices because nexus has all drivers open...no question nexus only from here on out....team hacksung still doesn't have a bug free rom......the best hardware will never matter if the user is not happy with the rom....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
thats odd, my phone lasts all and my gf's iphone 4s needs a battery case to get through the day
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kyokeun1234:
You should know that spec isn't everything. Yes, GNEX might be lacking in spec but I still think that this is the best phone because of stock Android and quick OTA updates, since I don't root my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barondebxl:
I Agree. Had the nexus before and it is an incredible phone and specs are not everything.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kookas:
That is true. The iPhone is, for its users, an incredible piece of tech, yet its CPU is nothing to shout about. It is all in the optimisation of the UI, which is why I'm so excited for Jelly Bean's release. With Project Butter I suspect specs will start to matter even less. Very soon, it won't take four cores to run Android jitter free, and that will be amazing. The new YouTube app is just a glimpse of the smoothness to come.

sent from my Nexy phone running AOKP/Franco
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Just so you guys know the Galaxy Nexus isn't lacking in specs. Dual core and 1gig ram are a sweet spot for Android. Android will run fine on these specs for a long time. There are a mass of lower specced phones out their that even run Android well (incredible 2 runs great) . Plus as many people said software and fast updates should be considered to have their own merits. That being said the Galaxy S3 looks awesome, and I would like to see the same tech in the new Nexus (no qualcomm though please).

sent from my galaxy tab 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
The American sgs3 looks so tempting though cause users are reporting having 900 mb free ram at any given time, with everything already running.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] plmiller0905:
Take it from me..the GS3 isn't all it's cracked up to be. I had the Pebble Blue Version on Sprint. The phone does lag and it froze up a bit as well. And Touchwiz is a joke. At least with Sense 4.0..HTC updated it a bit. The screen and the camera on the GS3 is great.

After having the GS3, I realized that it wasn't for me and I wanted to go back to a GSM Galaxy Nexus. I wanted timely updates and stock Android so here I am ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
yeah the us variants are real laggy..thats why if you can sacrifice lte you should get the international version

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i still think 2gb of ram is useless..until it is really required
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.m0x:
It is useless that's why so much of it is empty at any time.

Sent from my Cyanogenmodded GNex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qwerty warrior:
the s4 soc on the One S is like what 3 times faster than the GN but sadly the dev activity is slow and cm9 development is slow too
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] doeboy711:
True you have a dual core and 1 gb worth of ram. It all sounds good on paper, but your dual core is lacking a lot when compared to the S4 dual core. It's like saying your laptop has a dual core but it was one of the first intel made and it should run the same as mine that has the latest 3 gen i5 dual core processor. It just won't. I'm on VZW and the GNexus is just about as slow as every other phone on the market to get an update, has radio issues and bad battery life, so that's not an upside for me. I will take my chances with the S3, which in my mind will be more of a future proof purchase than buying an out of date hardware phone IMO. The great thing about android is that you can customize it and make it your own. I know many Dev's are going to make a TW free Rom, and optimize it just like every phone and make it bad a$$. My Evo3D was very laggy when I first got it, but after dev support it was screaming fast. Now it will happen to the S3.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iskader:
thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Thats because your on Verizon. VZWs GNex isn't a true Galaxy Nexus due to the bloat ware and even from the get go Google said it wasn't going to get the support that the international version was.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Dude, just stop it. It is a Nexus as much as any other.

Google's limited (AOSP) support is due to licensing issues, not bloat.

I wish these comments would die quiet deaths, but they keep rearing their ugly heads.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Do other phones on Verizon:

Have ICS as long as we have?

Been updated from 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.4? Oh wait, the Razr is just NOW getting ICS.

Have the ability to be unlocked and rooted without exploits?

Have factory images on the Google Developers site?

Have the ability to work with AOSP without hackery?

Have Jellybean ports, soon to be in AOSP, where we will get to build it for ourselves?

I do not place the Galaxy Nexus in the same boat with all the others. On top of that, I have been asking around, and it looks like the GN with JB runs about as smooth as a GS3 with the S4. It is amazing what optimized software can do. I am sure there are those who will say, well wait until the GS3 gets JB! I agree, it will be awesome. In 4 - 6 months. Maybe.

Not all of the touchwiz-less roms in the world will give you the same performance as true AOSP.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
You can believe what you want, but a true nexus is only pure Google. That was their goal. No bloat ware, no overlays. Verizon ruined it. Why do you think Apple prevents carriers from installing their own apps on the iPhone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
:rolleyes:

Nexus is a marketed brand name. You are disillusioned as to what a Nexus is. If the Verizon model wasn't a Nexus, it wouldn't have Nexus in the name. Next thing I am going to hear is because the Sprint and Verizon models need proprietary apks to fully function, they are not Nexus devices either.

Google disagrees with you, friend.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Nexus

Nuff said.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Ah yes...we are talking about the Galaxy Nexus in this thread.

Thanks for reminding us.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tmb993:
Are you really that scatter brained? Or can you just not handle being corrected? Yes the Nexus phones are a marketing line. But there is also an ideal behind the line of devices, which is what my article link pointed out. "The purpose of the Nexus phones is to create a "pure android" experience, in which the phones come free of carrier or manufacturer modification". The bloat ware and software disabling that occurs on the Sprint and Verizon's models defeats that ideal. Therefore not a true Nexus device as Google wanted it.