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[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
make it for Xperia sola ICS pls :cool:
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Can't make it for a device I don't own. Framework themes are already hard enough to do on my own device, especially since I'm porting Sony's newer framework.
[Xperia Z General] Crazy CS:
Hopefully... already looking to sell my Z to get this... whatever it is going to be called.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Me too

I sold my htc one x+ for 475 last week to get this sleeping early because i cant wait lol
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
Sigh...

Still not sure if I switch from Sprint to AT&T to get and sell the TL for this (possibly next spring??), or T-Mobile for do the same with the Z (assuming they'll continue to get Sony phones)...
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Aiming my eyes on the ZU ;)

Sent from my C6603 using voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Check out pics with new honami camera and new image processing algortihm here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43141000&postcount=560

They are taken with my XZ ;)

More pics will follow :)
[Xperia Z General] mwuhani:
!!

Can you make comparison with original camera app?
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
Too bad they won't put the SP illumination bar, with the release of the API and all I thought that it will be sort of signature for next generation mobile.
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
It might have the same light as the ZL which also takes advantage of the API.
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Camera is released!! :) Xperia Honami Camera port
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
LOL I appreciate all the software leaks but there's no way I'm installing them onto my Z because that ruins the magic of getting a new phone. ;)
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
3 more days maybe

3 more days!!!!! hopefully?
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
I those I find thoe pictures look quite bad, still tons of noise in those pictures. These pictures aren't base on the new camera sensor, but still..... If the early rumors were true, all the camera stuffs are actually being handle by the cyber shot department.
[Xperia Z General] katamari201:
With the EOS about to get announced as well, hopefully my top three phones (Note 3, Honami, EOS) will all be available by mid-september when I plan to get a new one. HTC already released a rather disappointing flagship device (camera and screen size wise anyway) and the butterfly S isn't any better. The leaks of the LG phone already look super boring, and LG has had super boring me-too Samsung phones for who knows how long. I guess Motorola might come out with something after their long hiatus, but there's no buzz at all. The Moto X is shaping up to be real disappointing, and the ULTRA tacked after the HD and then the Razr and then the Droid, for the other rumored phones. It's like buying overclocked video cards all over again. iPhone 5S. Super boring. Other than the camera on the EOS, Nokia can't do anything until WP GDR3 comes out who knows when and allows for 1080p and quad-core, so the successor to the 920 is in limbo, or most likely won't havy an earlier release and instead be super late November. Maybe Asus will release something super good, or Panasonic. Yuppers.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Yeah

Yeah the lg g2 looks boring and ugly with the volume rocker below the camera and the moto x is going to be dual core WTF and if the butterfly s was a snapdragon 800 i would consider but now my only 2 options are the honami and the nexus 5 EDIT: the leaked specs for the oppo find 7 looks pretty good and oppo confirmed it but they denied a sptember release so i dont know
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
To add onto my UI post, here's what the Settings app is going to look like.

Sony's really embracing the white theme throughout the UI. Thoughts?
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
The white theme is actually great on Sense let's hope it's the same for Sony. :)
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Maybe

My neighbor works for sony mobile customer care and i asked him if he knows anything about this all he told me that this is a device that is in the works he couldn't confirm a release date or anything
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
Everyone's from Google multiple apps and IOS are going white. And I find white are rather pleasing to the eyes if the screen ain't amoled,

Former androids black theme on UI is a disadvantage to normal LCD screen.
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Again, to add onto my UI post, here's an infographic of the Accents that Sony has used since 2012

Why Sony went for duller colours with Honami is beyond me. Look at green. Barf-worthy.
[Xperia Z General] Why So Serious?:
All of the leaked icons etc from the Honami dump look a bit toned down to me, which is in line with these accent colours. Not sure whether that has anything to do with the new Triluminous display or not but I don't mind it to be honest. That green is a bit off though :S
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
2 more days

Only 2 more days till their event!!!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I am already broke - got Xperia Z and Xperia Tablet Z.

Now Xperia Z Ultra & Xperia Honami !! SONY will be held responsible for my bankruptcy !!
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
Do u need to get both?

I think honami is better suited for me compared to ZU...
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
You can choose not to buy and stay with your current phone. Haha

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I am planning to replace my Xperia Z with Honami & if the price is Ok for ZU - gonna replace my Note 2 !!
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Sell every phone you have and get honami... I heard it's gonna go at a price range of 800 to 850USD. :D

**Taking good care of my HTC One so I could resell it at a higher value when honami arrives :)

[MENTION=2784807]DooMLoRD[/MENTION]

Are you gonna get Honami? :D I missed using your DoomKernel since Xperia Arc days lol!

By the way... I'm not that updated now on Sony phones... Haven't used them since 2011 so I wanna ask... Will we be expecting testpoint bootloader unlocking on this device? :p I heard sony is utilizing DRM protected features now on their phones. I wanted a custom ROM but I can't live with a phone without the kickass features of Sony.

And oh... Does their phone now have a dedicated recovery partition or is it still integrated on the kernel's ramdisk?
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
I can't sell these donated phones :)

I would love to have one of the S800 phones...

Testpoint bootloader unlock no longer works on 2012 and above devices... No dedicated recovery partition yet... Still have recovery in kernel ramdisk..,
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
800-850 is not bad if the camera is as goof as RX100......... is that even possible?
[Xperia Z General] Tr4sHCr4fT:
anyone checked the system dump for presence of xenon flash??
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
"Need" is a relative term. Lol

---------- Post added at 05:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:53 AM ----------

ZU is supposed to cost £600 in UK which is about $912 today. But it may be big enough to double as a tablet.
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
thought electronic prices don't translate directly from EU to US pricing, £600 can be 699 USD or 749 USD.
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[Xperia Z General] PLovrin:
Prices are not the same here as they are in us. Many times something that costs 399$ in us, costs 399€ here. You can't understand that :)

The only thing that comes to my mind is that eu has bigger import taxes.
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation.

I have a question, if I may. When they say that the ZU might be released on September 4, do they mean the UK or EU release only, or would that date apply also to the US?
[Xperia Z General] herasymcuk:
it's interesting for me too! :)
[Xperia Z General] RalphLauren:
Well, man if you look at the US sony site, ZU is NOT even featured there....

However it's "coming soon" on all EU Sony sites...

Another example, XZ was available in EU since February. When it came to US (exclusively T-Mobile)???? - something in May...

It seems Sony does not favour US market so much, or maybe it's a case of inverse causality and US does not favour anything with its unique LTE bands.....huh...
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to get the Note III in the meantime.
[Xperia Z General] RalphLauren:
That's really shame......

What stops you to bring XZU from EU or Asia in this case? Just lack of LTE?

In a way does ATT and T-M offer great LTE coverage? And what would cost you the LTE plan?

Think HSPA+ is way sufficient at the moment.... besides, what a life span of gadgets you have ? One year .....

I would definitely go with imported XZU in place of Sam_whatever :)

Just IMHO :)
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
Actually, if there are no compatibility issues with using an unbranded ZU in the US on T-Mobile, I might very well get one. T-Mobile now is rolling out LTE in my area, and the speed is not bad (download 22 Mbps max, so far), albeit, spotty, while they're testing. They were seriously behind the curve, but now have committed lot's of money to building a premium LTE infrastructure (e.g., the purchase of Metro PCS), and I have high hopes for the long term with them.

I'm truly excited about the ZU, and about the prospect of moving over to the Sony "family" of products. If I were to go Sony, I would get another ZU for the GF, two Tablet Zs, and, most probably, a Sony home theater set up, among other devices.
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
I've been pondering the exact same questions. All this time, I've been debating switching from Sprint to AT&T and get a TL while I wait for the next Sony phone, but it seems they dont care to get one for a while.

I'm not the biggest fan of the Z because of its lack of shutter button (still spoiled by the Epic 4G over here, lol). So I'd rather wait. Also, I don't know how much of an upgrade it'd be to switch from Sprint's complete lack of 4G in my part of Southern Cali (and other regions) to T-Mobile, when I know AT&T is stronger everywhere. ...But the contracts though. That's what makes me consider T-Mobile again, lol.

Its sounding more and more like I should

Are you familiar with T-Mobile's service on a regular basis (3G, etc), compared to AT&T's? Everywhere I go that Sprint doesn't, my friends/gf with AT&T have no complaints. I also don't understand how their "UNcarrier" method works? It sounds like I could just leave any time I want, compared to AT&T's Force Chokehold...

My original thought was to either get the TL and wait to sell it after the Honami to debuts, but I might just sign with Sprint with the Z, maybe sell that and get the ZL (or ZR, I guess?) then wait for the Honami, lol.
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
The 3G/HSPA(+) has always been good: typical speed about 14 Mbps. The uncarrier thing I think is about being able to port any unlocked phone.
[Xperia Z General] RalphLauren:
If I see it correct at XZU white papers, the following LTE bands will be supported: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,20

T-Mobile (USA) has the license for the bands 4, 25 (as well as ATT for 4 and 17); it implies that you can play with the band 4 :)

XZU becomes really global phone in contrast with XZ, which does not support any of USA LTE bands.

Concerning the "compatibility issues", the chances to get such are almost non-existent.

(UNLESS you "wonderful" providers lock their SIM-cards to prevent its work with the unbranded imported phones......

So , you better learn it beforehand from T-Mo and ATT :) )

Man, more I write about XZU, more I want it :) hahaha

Probably will dump my XZ as soon as XZU is available :)
[Xperia Z General] joylemon:
Doesn't Xperia Z also have a global LTE coverage ?

That is unusefull when in italy where the LTE's antennas are 6 or 7 !!! :(
[Xperia Z General] RalphLauren:
Stop crying and playing silly game. Get read something useful before posting such things...

Where did you get band 6 in Italy?

Italy has 3,7,20 bands and all supported by xz...
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
Looking at T-Mobile's site, I'm not sure the "buy one phone then sell for another" plan would work... They keep their phone and service plan charges separate (Plan fees+$20/mo for 2yrs for the phone), so I won't be able to do anything until I pay the first phone in full. Not to say I want to "cheat" the carrier... I just don't want to pay full price for a phone, lol. I guess I'd have to talk with someone at T-Mobile to see what'd happen if I were to "switch phones" mid "contract".
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4629&c=sony_xperia_zu_lte_sony_togari_maki

pdadb says band 1, 19, 21 aka 2100 800 1500

http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/800-600-400-200/specs

Qualcom states MSM 8074 as "no modem included" this means an extra modem is built in, thats why pdadb lists 2 version of Togari (Maki)

Honami will have MSM 8974 with included LTE.

btw, wasnt usa CDMA ?

P.S anyone noticed usb 3.0 on S800 speccs?
[Xperia Z General] RalphLauren:
I assume we are talking about XZU , right ?

People, why for god sake you are using the info from what-ever web-sites when the official information from SONY is available:

http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/c6833/whitepaper_EN_c6833_LTE_xperia_z_ultra.pdf

C6833

Qualcomm MSM8974 Quad Core

UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),

1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz

GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz

LTE (Bands I, II, III, IV, V, VII, VIII, XX)

USA CDMA is Verizon
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Tmobile

I really dont care as long as it works on tmobile lte i just hope that tmobile doesnt charge $800 for it because they stoppered doing contracts maximum im going to pay is 579 if its higher then that im going for the nexus 5
[Xperia Z General] joylemon:
Hey man, you didn't understand what I was saying....

6 or 7 are the numbers of physical antennas around the italian territory, it's just a way to say that the LTE coverage it's really poor !! I wan not talking about frequency or band !

By the way, I love silly game, waiting for the next interesting article ;)
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
T-Mobile will charge you what it costs them, which will be more than $579. It's the most advanced handset on the market anywhere, with brand new display tech and the newest, fastest mobile chipset. Asking for it to cost the same as handsets that have been out for a year is extremely unreasonable.

That being said, T-Mobile does allow you to finance the phone, just like any other carrier. It's just not a contract.

Edit: [MENTION=4694355]ultrairon[/MENTION]
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
doesn't that basically support everything? I assume that Honami will be the same.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Yeah i know

Yeah i know but what i meant was i just wish they still did contracts and gave the phone for the discounted price but i might just go with the nexus 5 if its cheapers
[Xperia Z General] RalphLauren:
6 antennas, wow , that's great :)

More important that there is one on Capri.......I plan to spend there some time and hate to be without LTE :)

Cheers, man :)
[Xperia Z General] joylemon:
I've been there in April and there was no LTE connection unfortunally !! Let's hope that they upgrade the existing one in a LTE !!

Cheers !
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Check this out

Hey did u see the moto x ad leak if i can customize the Processor and the camera im going to max it out!!!! :)
[Xperia Z General] katamari201:
You are very uneducated when it comes to phone prices. The Galaxy S4 retails for $639 officially. Only T-mobile has a large discount at $579. The ZU is not in the same market segment as "mainstream" phones like the S4 and HTC One. It's in the large phablet space, and is the biggest one out there at 6.4". Bigger screens, bigger bodies, and bigger batteries, e.g. bigger price. Last year's Note 2 is still $649 on T-mobile's website. What would make you think the ZU will be any cheaper? It will probably be north of $700. $750-800.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
I know

I was talking about the honami
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Thanks for the reply :)

By the way selling old donated phones to purchase new one should be considerable to those who donated :D Specially if support for those old phones already ended. I think alot of previous users who donated to you already shifted to newer phones :P

Not really lol! RX100 is using a 1inch sensor which cannot be fitted for a phone(at least on honami renders). But they are trying to make it as the same as possible.

And by the way when I said 800-850USD I was talking about the price range of the handset here in Asia. EU & US might cost up to 900USD if sold unlocked/unbranded. Anyways that's just a wild guess. I'm basing my guess on how the pricing crawls up on previous flagships to present.
[Xperia Z General] DrKrFfXx:
I went to a recently opened (Yersterday) Sony "Pool Up" store (Meaning they had a pool with guys and gals playing with devices under water) in Madrid and I had the chance to try the Xperia Z Ultra.

It's ****ing amazing. They had it under tight security, saying that it was only a prototype, and they let no one to touch it.

After a little chat with the manager, and after convincing him I was a HUGE Sony fan, (I carried a Xperia S, a Xperia Z and a Sony Walkman Z with me), he let me play with it for a while, leaving me =O I was jumping in excitement when he let me touch it. He told me "you know more about Sony devices than the people working over here" (Thank you Xperia Blog and XDA)

My devices:

The Store:

My Xperia Z compared to the Xperia Z Ultra on display:

Me and the Z Ultra:

I was so blown away that I just remember seeing the About Phone stuff. Kernel 3.4 and Android 4.2.2. Everything else was just jaw dropping.
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
So what happens if you get a phone through T-Mobile, finance it, then decide you want to "upgrade" or just get a different phone?
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Look at the person in the background pic here...

He's staring a you man... I think he's saying...

"Hey how did he get permission to touch that device while I'm not allowed to. *envious*"

:D

Anyways I don't want Z Ultra... Still waiting for Honami... HTC One for me is the maximum size level I want for a device. I'm already having a hard time holding it and I can't accept anything alot larger than this phone of mine.

HTC One dimension = 137.4 x 68.2 x 9.3 mm (5.41 x 2.69 x 0.37 in)
[Xperia Z General] AntiLazarus:
Well, if you upgrade by purchasing a new phone from them, then I believe you have to pay off your first phone in full before they will let you finance another one. You're on the hook for the cost of the phone, but you can pay it off at any time, if you have the cash.

If you just buy an unlocked from the vendor, then of course, they have nothing to do with it.
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
thought I always find prices are lower in NA than Asia. Like all the time.
[Xperia Z General] SmoothSal:
Currently, I have the black xperia Z.

My wish-list: Xperia ZU & Honami.

:angel:
[Xperia Z General] ryude:
I think if the Z Ultra was just slightly smaller it would be perfect for users who like big screens. 6.44" is a little too big, maybe 5.8" or even 6" would have been better.
[Xperia Z General] DooMLoRD:
same wishlist :)
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Same here !

And I just busted my Galaxy Note (stupid rains :mad:), so I have a legitimate reason to go buy a phone :victory:
[Xperia Z General] PhilipTD:
You know what they say about guys with big hands...

They like big screens.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
here

Lets say i buy he galaxy s4 i have 2 options pay it in full today or pay $99 down and an additional $20 a month to my plan for 24 months and if u are in lets say 6 months and u want to upgrade you will have to pay the remaining unpayed balance and once uve finaced that then to get ur new phone u could get it yourself from amazon or something or u could buy it from t-mobile the same way they dont give you the upgrade price for the phone since they dont do contracts anymore
[Xperia Z General] TracerBullitt:
Cool, cool, cool. Thanks, guys. I didn't know if there'd be any restrictions or anything. So, through Tmob, I guess the best way this would work (to avoid paying for two phones, upfront) is to wait to sell my phone (so I'd "have the cash"), bought through them, until they hopefully pick up the Honami. If I wanted the ZL, in the meanwhile, I'd have to pay off the Z then buy the ZL on my own. So no shutter button for a year-ish...

Still sounds better than switching to AT&T, because if Tmob doesn't get the Honami, I could still pay them off and switch to whoever does.

Edit: ...Never thought I'd be talking about switching to T-Mobile, lol
[Xperia Z General] babylonbwoy:
Reading your comments make me thankful for living in Europe (France) where we can use any mobile on any network without thinking about compatibility... If I want to change carriers I'm free to do from a month to the next without extra cost.

C6603 Swiftkey Flow Tapatalked v4 Beta
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Yup

And even if tmobile doesnt pick up the honami u can just buy it from ebay and take it to your tmobile store and theyll activate it for u and tmobile current has the best value plan no matter what i have 3 lines on my family line right now and the total $90 a month for unlimeted talk text and data with 500 mb of 4g and u can get unlimeted data for an addition $20 or 2 gb for and additional 10 http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/family-plans.aspx
[Xperia Z General] soulrebel1:
So apparently the Xperia Honami screen is 5.4". :(

I was hoping for 5" or below. Will have to see it first before i decide but i generally draw the line at 5"
[Xperia Z General] luisoman2000:
source?
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Where did that info came from?
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
As long as it's very thin, much like the ZU, then I will have no problems.

The Note 2 is 5.5" but it's too bulky.
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
It's been speculated on various websites since the Brazilian Techtudo leak.

http://techpp.com/2013/06/28/sony-xperia-i1-honami-specs/

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/122...era-to-take-on-sgs4-zoom-and-nokia-lumia-1020
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
The funny thing is that Techtudo NEVER mentioned screen size in their article (which os horrible btw)
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
Yeah, like I said, it's all speculation based on the pics next to the other phones are comparison.
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Nexus 5

I might go wit the moto x or nexus 5 instead if this turns out to be pricey but i hope that the nexus 5 has good specs and an amazing price like the n4
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
1) Why you quoted me to say that?

2) Are you saying that, but why? what made you get dissapointed with Honami right away?
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
I dont know why i qouted u sorry im new to xda and people are saying the honami will be around 700 or even 800 and thats way to pricey for me so thats i said the nexus 5 or moto x but if this has a good price ill buy it
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
I have no problem on quoting me. It is because your post had nothing to do with mine, so I got confused...

And I see... Yeah, will be a bit pricey, but you've got the best of Sony now there...
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
True

Yeah i just wish i could get it for the contract price but tmobile doesnt do contracts anymore so but if the moto x is truly customizabloe that would be awsome like porcesor and ram and everything
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
Tomorrow is the day, we will know more!

did they have a certain time ? 14:00 ? 16:00
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
AFAIK, 9:30am Paris time...
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
3:30

thatll be 3:30 for u est people
[Xperia Z General] LordManhattan:
Know what?

(My first time in this thread)
[Xperia Z General] Fluxman:
Event Livestreaming?

Anyone know if Sony Mobile will be livestreaming the event? I really want to watch it and not have to wait until afterwards to get my fix lol
[Xperia Z General] ultrairon:
Engadget said they'd be covering it but where do u live its going to be at 9:30 paris time which is 3:30 est time
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
Thats good its gonna be 3.30pm in Singapore :D