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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skippythegoat:
Android runs in a virtual machine called dalvik which is written in java. XobotOS is Android rewritten in C# and runs in a virtual machine called mono. Many of the lines of code were translates automatically by a tool called sharpen I believe. As stated previously in this thread, it appears that there would be compatibility issues with the applications, but the sharpen tool could be used to help alleviate that issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cloverasx:
expanding on this, would the apps then be optimized or would they continue to stay slow and battery consuming? I'm not really too sure how this works, if the apps will interact with the OS in the same manner or if there will be a lot of problems... or if they just wont work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tacosrdelicioso:
I want this. *borks nexus with want*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DroidMahn:
DO WANT! Will donate for this. Already drooling
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Logi_Ca1:
I'm willing to bet that translating a few important apps will help battery life immensely. For instance, the web browsers, since web browsing seems to be the most battery intensive.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ibanez33:
Excited to see what happens here.. and I also hope this is a direction that android moves in.

Understandably issues with backwards compatibility may detract. But then every time a new android version come out some devices are left behind.

But if it can translate java apps then a phased switch to C# once key lime pie is out would the best news ever!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Forward compatibility is equally broken, unless they have some mojo that reliably ports any application. Which may also infringe on some copyright laws if it is making a new application from it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
What about Java is draining your battery while browsing the web?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Logi_Ca1:
That is what Intel is doing though. They have a cloud-based solution that translates any native ARM code to x86.

I'm no expert, but I guessing that translating from one CPU architecture to another is more difficult than translating between two very similar object oriented languages.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Translation is a little different than plain out porting. For one, the software isnt modified from its native format.

This project is useful for sure, but questionable once you hit closed source apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tacosrdelicioso:
This is must try on the nexus. The whole os.... java free
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
With no apps?

:D

The second they port Google's closed source apps, Google will hit them with a CnD. Then there are market apps...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tacosrdelicioso:
Lol apps will come
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Qortez1:
Lol if you build it they will come
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Not if manufacturers don't embrace it.

No developer will spend their precious time on a dead end. Take a look at Windows Phone market.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skippythegoat:
Manufacturers produce what there us demand for. Manufacturers have something called r&d and such where they work to determine what the consumers will want to that they have a market to sell their product. In many respects, the manufacturer follows the consumer, not the other way around.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
There is no profitable market for them to use a forked version of Android that will never keep up with the official version.

Easier and cheaper for them to stick with java version. That and all the app support is available to the java version. There has to be a whole new app ecosystem for a c# version of Android.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
well, that why virtual machine exists.. :p

windows/linux/mac are written in c and c++..and java applications can run on it because of the java virtual machine

if xobotos is written in c#, that doesn't mean apps have to be written in c# as well..the actual "java" apps present on the market in theory could run without modification on a new virtual machine, like the actual dalvik vm, that will allow actual java apps to run on the android c# version

even if i think that will not going to happen, and maybe not going to work, in theory nothing is impossible :D

it "just" need time, money and good devs...and google seems to have all of this..if just google want, they can
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
And if you use a VM, then you are essentially going right back to the whole dalvik thing. Might as well left it alone in the first place.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
ya of course run java apps again on a vm, is not the perfect solution..but at least the system run in c#..and potentially in the future the new apps could be written/re-written in c# without run on the vm anymore...but we know this is only fantascience :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
How is that different from now? The java layer is just part of the OS. Plenty of C and C++ in Android. Quite a bit, in fact. Android is not pure java, from top to bottom. You are just changing from one C variant to another if you have to use a VM in XobotOS.

The Dalvik VM runs all the apps. If you have to use a VM on XobotOS for the apps...nothing has really changed.

I think the concept is a good one, but it needs to be top to bottom if you want to see a real advantage. The only way that will sell is if manufacturers pick it up and app devs find a viable ecosystem to make a profit. Otherwise, it will be neglected to the archives of geek history, destined to be a side project, and never anything of substance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Logi_Ca1:
So probably it might be better to work on improving the Dalvik VM, since that is supposed to be what's inefficient.

And anyway, I have been reading that Google is winning their case with Oracle, so I guess they will stick with Java, for now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brandonyoung:
Even if the apps are still written in Java, could it still be more efficient to run the Java bytecode in a .NET VM instead of dalvik?

For example, there is ikvm, a Java VM written in .Net. I haven't read too much on it yet, but from what little I have read, it runs some Java better (faster, less memory overhead) than the official Java VM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well...so does Dalvik. Honestly, I think thats part of what pissed off Oracle in the first place; dalvik is faster than their own VM. I just don't think there is much to be gained by switching to c#.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DroidMahn:
Hows the compiling coming?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
no one tried to compile this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kenikh:
Read Xamarin's blog. http://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/

The Performance section lays it all out. Dalvik is antiquated in terms of modern VMs. Mono leverages things in .NET that Java just can't accomplish. I'm excited at the prospects.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nevod:
One doesn't have to go through all that though to get Android faster. Just upgrading an VM is sufficient. For example, running Java SE app in IKVM.Net results in a significantly higher performance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thakur90:
Is this in anyway related to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It8xPqkKxis&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Its funny how people notice it now whereas it was already known to many people!! Btw what is rooz plugin that he mentions??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Logi_Ca1:
So... After 6 pages no compile yet? :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Steelskinz:
Dead project ? :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] endofwed:
i have akon rom installed. i have music on a sd card but im not sure how to access it.

im using astro file manager, and im looking through all the folders but non are my sd card folder with the music.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 88cavalierz24:
make sure you go to external_sd as that is the actual sd card, sdcard is the internal phone storage.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xreflection:
So i've started to really start using my tab 2 and i have started realizing that the performance leaves a lot to be desired. Specifically I'm having an issue where the screen will turn black for a second or two while playing a game. I've also noticed that some games will pause for no reason. These games include shadowgun, elemental, and tower defense. It's kind of irritating. I'll get an occasional freeze followed by a crash.

Any ideas? The processor isn't a power house but it can't be THAT bad. I can't wait to be able to overclock this thing..
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yenupuri:
I have seen this happen to my Galaxy Tab 2 (7) every once in a while. What I have noticed using the app "Watchdog" is that there is a system process (I am at work so cannot access/remember it) that every once in a while chews up 40-60% of the processors juice(Could be a TouchWiz process... i wouldn't know) ... This thing should fly once we have it rooted and once we have our devs clean it up and get some cleaner roms out :D

Hang in there mate... Good times are about to come :D
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xreflection:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I've discovered it happens during when I'm watching movies from my sd card as well. The screen goes blank, and you see the "busy" swirling circle thing that means its "busy" and then the movie comes back. It's not as irritating as the pausing during a game because the movie just continues where it left off.

Can't wait for a touchwiz free version..
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsmurf:
Custom Roms would come a lot quicker if we had a section on here for Tab 2 7.0's ;) Any mods out there wanna help with that?
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lastiko:
i do have the same problem when dealing with draw something...it lags for a while at first, but it just runs smoothly after...just bear to wair for 5-10 seconds in front
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kurniawan_johar:
i found lot of apps which has a compability issue

i guess the chipset dual core ti omap was a new chip

so it get lot of lagging freezzing and also tilt compability with the old apps games
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
For me, the ultimate rom would be the reliability and battery of stock, the USB tether option from stock too but with the CM7 theme engine.

What would your Ultimate Rom be?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] 008bond:
A very good balance between battery, performance, looks and customization. I would obviously love stock battery. Performance can be better than stock for sure. I like the way stock roms look, cm7 adw is not so smooth really, cm9 looks cool. And as for customization....some roms have "Power button ends call" enabled by default and it cannot be disabled, I do not like that....small customizations matter a lot.

Waiting for Maclaws AOKP, it will probably have all of the above.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
I wasn't talking about CM7 adw. I'm talking about all those different themes you can install for any CM7 rom in general. Not just the launcher.

As for performance, 0 scripts for me. Ram Manager has me covered no matter what rom I'm using :). Oh and I NEED apps2SD too.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jumbobombo:
Ultimate rom Hmmm... Good battery of course

Great customization

Agree zero scripts ram manager is the best

Visual is fine because in the end it's the theme and launcher we use

Barebones I like my own different apps for different purposes

Basically a 10 hour battery with optimal usage no compromises :D :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Spex:
hmm

cm9 with touchwiz from sgsIII + folders on app drawer

and that it has highly customisable ui
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Soeskip:
Mine would be one to dominate the world with a single swipe.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
A miracle for this phone would be to be able to run Sonic the Hedgehog 4 without lag + be able to last for at least a day with 3G
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] dredremon:
My ultimate rom are when u enjoy the rom and love the developers who made that :D

IM NOT SPAMING . IM ASKING THIS IS A FORUM SITE **** U

-Sent using XDA Premium
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] abhibnl:
well for me, as already mentioned, stability and battery from stock,.performance from cm with no scripts, error free kernel and wide range of themes to choose from :-P
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Minde19:
my dream rom at the moment would be a stock DDKQ8 rom, with all useless applications removed and some minor tweaks. i tried looking for a barebone ddkq8 rom but could find one :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] dredremon:
stocklitev6 barbones ddkq8
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] bruschi12:
my ultimate rom would be one that

1. works

2. can answer calls

3. has working wifi and bluetooth

4. can manage internal storage space

5. has a battery that lasts more than 5 hours with moderate use

getting seriously pi$$ed off trying to find a rom that just functions properly. have went through a good few at this stage and just want a stable rom that doesnt take ages to load up, that doesnt reboot for no reason and that doesnt freeze and tell me adwlauncher is not working. currently on kangs cooper after going from cooper nightly and from some other CM7.2 before that.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
Highly recommend Stocklite V6. Only problem I had was because my SD was corrupted and had problems reading apps from SD so I had to do a full phone wipe and format SD.

You could say this rom is almost my ultimate rom. But its missing the CM7 theme engine :'(

Also, I got 12hrs on 3G the other day :D 122-806 Smartass V2. Moderate use too.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] abhibnl:
Stocklitev6 is a great ddkq8 rom no doubt. It's best when it comes to stock. For me battery sucks while using EDGE. 5-6 hours hardly while using internet.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
How is that even possible? 3G consumes like 3x as much battery as edge. Unless you're using your phone during the full 5-6 hrs non stop, then yeah. That's explainable.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] bruschi12:
might give the stocklite6 a go so!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
I say bald eagle

I am using it for a long time since its out

Good enough for me

Watching movies on int can hold up to 12 hours

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[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] bruschi12:
just on stocklite, is it possible to use s2e to move the dalvik cache to the sd card? or can any other app do the same thing?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
Yeah dude, it has A2SD. Just download A2SD GUI from the market and you're all set. I promise you won't regret it. Also, delete all other scripts besides A2SD in the ini folder. The dev made a mistake putting those in and he now recommends to remove them which will also result in your booting time decreasing drastically to almost instant.

Install Ram Manager instead and set it to Balance (More Multitasking) and you won't get any lag at all. Well, I don't. That's if you're running on 122-806 Smartass V2 as well just like I am. Then you'll be all set :)

If you follow what I've said, you won't look for another rom for a LONG time.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] scoffyburito:
What so there isn't enough of a selection of roms or something?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
There really isn't dude. They mostly have something in common or you're always looking for something different. I personally want a CM7 theme engined stock rom. You won't see that for a long time. If its even possible.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] bruschi12:
thanks for that. have it downloaded and ready to install so will do it sometime over the weekend when I get a bit of time.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] bajipupa:
1. Stability :cool:

2. Battery :)

3. Performance :cool:

4. Visual Apperance :D

and MIRACLEv4 is my Ultimate ROM...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] RealVishnu14:
Blackhawk Rom by ketut. Nice battery and stock rom with theme ;-)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] karnsndhu:
according to me ultimate rom means MIUI gb without bugs.............
[HTC Sensation] jaget123:
Hey

I m running stock ics right now.

I was just wondering if i could reformat my total android system and install gb.

I m not rooted.

I m new to this as it is only 1week i got my new xe.
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
Yes, you can go to GB, but why? You've got some searching to do. Assuming it came with ICS, you'd need to use the Juopunutbear method to obtain S-OFF.

Then find the GB RUU for your CID, or super CID and flash whichever GB RUU you want.

Or can you just downgrade with RUU for your CID even if you are S-ON?? I'm imagining not, or else we wouldn't need the Juopunutbear method.
[HTC Sensation] Deathsongx3:
The only way i can think of reformating your system is to root it and reformat your partitions from CWM or 4Ext Recovery
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
You would need a compatible hboot I think.. if it came with stock ICS then I'm not sure if you can. I think there's a hboot downgrade method, but it's really risky. (i think..)
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
Not really risky, unless you stray from the directions. Just can be tedious if you can't get the timing right.
[HTC Sensation] Jalkren:
Try Juopunutbear method.

When I Re-brought a Sensation XE on March

I've done a OTA from GB to ICS without knowing there's no method to S-Off at that moment.

But I gave Juopunutbear method a shot, and I manage to downgrade my hboot, install GB with Official RUU and S-Off again using Revolutionary

--Sorry for my bad english.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RAMBOcoder:
I have the latest Euphoria (RC2.1) on my vibrant.

Also, I would like to install the Experia keyboard. This is the only keyboard I like with a spell tip for the Arabic language. This is also important for me.

I don't know if I have the proper file, but I tried to install "textinput-tng.apk" however I keep getting "Application not installed", even after moving to /System/App and changing the permissions of the .apk

Does anyone know what the proper way to install this keyboard is?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpelagio11:
Might sound dumb but did you reboot after changing permission? I know some changes won't occur until you reboot.
[Motorola Droid X2] dets34:
So I'm trying to download some apps earlier and I keep getting a toast message saying I'm out of space/memory on my SD card. I went to apps manager and my internal is at 405mb and my SD card says unavailable. I'm running cm7. Any suggestions?
[Samsung Mesmerize] tony yayo:
I want to sell my mesmerized on eBay or something but not sure how to clear all my info from it before. I know how to factory reset but I want to remove my other info if possible. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
[Epic 4G Apps] xplus93:
Anybody know if there's a leak of the S-Voice app yet? Also any idea if when we do get it on our phones it will work?
[Epic 4G Apps] jbadboy2007:
I'm guessing it will only work with the newer twiz framework but could just be an app we could get.
[Epic 4G Apps] shadowlink217:
It just got announced yesterday...
[Epic 4G Apps] rocket321:
This is my guess as well. The challanges would be:

Need ICS

Probably need TouchWiz framework (ICS version)

Very likely not enough RAM in Epic to run ICS + TW + voice app

CM9 dev's are working hard to free up 1-2mb RAM at a time, throwing TW on there would likely bring things to a standstill. I think we are reaching the limit of what our phone can handle with AOSP ICS/CM9.
[Epic 4G Apps] Ceelos09:
Wouldn't we be able to just modify the S-Voice.apk to make it independent from the TW framework? Kinda like what Tortel did with the stock Sammy Task Manager/Calender/Calculator/etc.?
[Epic 4G Apps] xboxfanj:
Potentially yes, but that's a better question for Tortel2120 than me.
[Epic 4G Apps] eyecon82:
the SIII has the same ram as SII though?
[Epic 4G Apps] carm0033:
Is this supposed to be something like Samsung's version of Siri?
[Epic 4G Apps] Ceelos09:
Yes, Samsung created the S-Voice to basically compete with Apple's Siri. Whether its up to par with Siri, we'll have to see
[Epic 4G Apps] rocket321:
Right, hopefully many of the S3's features can be back ported to the S2. However I don't see ports for the og S getting this love. Hopefully some cleaver devs will prove me wrong though.
[Epic 4G Apps] spences10:
The guy that posted the Flipboard.apk leak says he has it but doesn't want to leak it in case Samsung sue him

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1644212

Check out the thread
[Epic 4G Apps] ÜBER™:
Edit: somebody trolling it was a fake app... vlingo skinned
[Epic 4G Apps] bpear96:
It gives me server error when trying to use voice command, thanks anyways :-)
[Epic 4G Apps] mark.m.moran:
Working fine on Galaxy Nexus ;-)

Very impressed so far! Crashes when I ask her to play music??
[Epic 4G Apps] xplus93:
Well, i got it now. Using it on CM9 B3, works perfectly. I never liked touchwiz, so not putting that on there.
[Epic 4G Apps] Speedin07si:
Hope everyone enjoyed it for a little bit .....

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/0...-voice-requests-ahead-of-galaxy-s-iii-launch/

Sent from My Epic Ice Cream Sandwich With Sprinkles!!!
[Epic 4G Apps] ÜBER™:
You can still enjoy it. Just change your build.prop to make it think its a galaxy s3. GT-I9300 :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1664785
[Epic 4G Apps] Shinydude100:
Can anyone re-link me to the apk? The last dropbox link is dead.
[Epic 4G Apps] ÜBER™:
Cuz I deleted it. :p they tanked me anyways.
[Epic 4G Apps] darkierawr:
http://mir.cr/XQIFMUBB
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] shriramc4:
How to create flashable zip which will install required applications in /data folder like regular installation as this would reduce time while trying new ROM.

I have tried by making changes in existing zip by putting /data folder instead of system but found not working
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Modulüs:
Nice idea. But why not use titanium backup or cwm backup??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Cares:
What is the update-binary file in the same folder as updater-script? Do I need to do something with it? I can't edit it because it's a bunch of ASCII.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chrcol:
yeah this be handy, I may use it for titanium backup. Because normally I have to go through the hassle of logging into google services etc. to get titanium backup on every rom change.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Subo_it:
thnX, It helps me too..:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Cares:
Still not sure what to do with update-binary
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] dxppxd:
Don't do anything, leave it there.

Sent from the other side... of the screen
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] PsyGik:
Try this ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] ToolPunk:
I have a stock HTC Wildfire S that got the ota update to 2.35 er so. Before and after the update I am experiencing Streaming Video/Audio Sync Issues when trying to play video through my browser and the Netflix app. The audio rolls along with no hinderance or interference while the video stops, jumps, glithches or just plays but way out of sync with the audio. I have tryed several different websites to no avail. The craziest thing is, through the Youtube app, all videos play crisp and with no flaws. This is all being done over WiFi and has been tested on several different WiFi connections. On a side note, formated videos that are on my SD card also have no issues. I have the version of flash player for my version of android installed and 30-40mb of open internal storage.

Any idea would help, ty.
[HTC Wildfire S] savoiu:
Same here. I wonder if overclocking is needed to get Netflix to play decently over WiFi.

Nick
[HTC Wildfire S] kmbarreiros:
Same here, I 'm even trying to get Skype to work. My wives LG Optimus Elite can stream Skype and Netflix video just fine even over a good 3G signal.

Yet on the Wildfire just trying to do audio with Skype wont even work on WiFi.

I am regretting this phone more and more.

Kevin
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheTechNiq:
I forgot the amount that it takes till you can reply?

Sent from my Galaxy to yours.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xcrazydx:
Should be 100 posts, unfortunately they let noobs with 10 posts in.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Psyloid:
Lol ;) good one

Sent from LV-426 with my pulse rifle running Aliendroid 4.0.4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheTechNiq:
Thanks man.

Sent from my Galaxy to yours.