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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] louis.b:
Throttling and locking BL have nothing in common. The former means that they are violating a contract between them and customers, while the latter simply protects their supposedly legit interests ie prevents customers who mess around with their devices and hence mess them up from exchanging for new units, and to prevent users from messing up w their business (tethering, remove their service apps etc.) There's no violation of any contract between ATT and their customers. Also the fact that you use their services means that you have accepted their conditions.

Again not to be a **** but I dont see there's any reason for ATT to back off. They just dont care about the One X. IF they can sell them it's good. If not then it's still ok. Their primary focus is the Lumina 900 and WP. The only parties who will get hurt the most are HTC and the HOX. Customers like you guyz dont buy them; ATT doesnt care to promote them and they're the only carrier in the US to get this phone.

And before anyone reminds me that the HOX is out of stock atm: dont read too much out of that news. We dont know how many One X-es were stocked to begin w.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
The only thing that bootloader locking and the previously very obtuse throttling policy is they were both instituted by AT&T. HTC is hung out to dry by a carrier in the US because frankly the Carrer is HTC's customer, not the end user.

HTC shouldn't be blamed for this situation only pitied.

If there is enough of a public outcry from the consumer about the bootloader AT&T will have no choice but to reverse it.

However, since the hacker/phone geek community is such a small percentage of their customer base they don't care about us. We are such a small number that losing us isn't going to cause a noticeable uptick in churn. Churn is the only thing they care about.

As far as devices that AT&t cares about, MS/Nokia gave them quite a bit of $$ to push the Lumia. The One X is simply another android phone to them in a sea of android phones.

I really like this device, however the more I chew on the situation, the more I wish I had spent the extra $ and bought the international version. I bought this phone unsubsidized.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] soccermon15:
AT&T Response

Just got a response to my BBB complaint. They are claiming that they have nothing to do with the locked bootloader

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Has anyone tried getting some of the bigger tech blog/news sites to not only spread the word about the locked BL, but the campaign to get it opened? I submitted something to engadget, but haven't seen anything from them yet. It would help to spread the word about what we're doing here. We'd get a lot more signatures on the petition as well as BBB/facebook complaints.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mzimmer88:
Forward the response to HTC or some tech blogs. Maybe stir the pot between AT&T and HTC?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] badboydiablo:
I just tipped the Verge on AT&T's response to the BBB hopefully we get an answer soon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DJsCrIBbLe:
I'm sorry but how the he'll is changing from throttling the top 5 % not better then the current anybody who passes the 3 and 5 gb limits . Stupid . I went for over 3 years no throttle and they changed they're stupid policy now I get it almost every month !
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
The 5 % thing was arbitrary and bull****. A hard limit is at least defined.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DJsCrIBbLe:
Defined yes but I don't agree. Like I said never been throttled in almost 4 years and I used from 2 to 10 gigs a month so the top 5 was working in some for or another.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bosnazmaj:
Today's att is not the att from then.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] wiesman2613:
Just got my one x.. sign me up for the petition!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Artimus009:
there a link...click it and sign up!

sent from my HTC One X Rooted locked bootloader
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vukadmos:
Any updates on this?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] belyle:
My BBB complaint was forwarded on to AT&T. Got an email from BBB today telling me so.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Mine too
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] inktimi:
My BBB complaint is still pending, I guess =\

I've been posting every day on the AT&T Facebook Wall - but they just ignore me totally.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Koizuma:
I actually got a call from an ATT support rep earlier today, and she said that they was working with the people at HTC to try and figure out something about this. But being just a support rep, couldnt really give me any details on the issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] belyle:
I received a call from someone in the Executive office at AT&T about my BBB complaint. She gave me her direct phone #. I was unable to answer, so she left a voicemail. I called back, but apparently they don't work at 6pm :(. I'm going to call again tomorrow at 8AM. I'm open for suggestions on specific topics that I need to cover.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vitaminxero:
Keep up the pressure.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MCreane:
Just got off the phone with a rep. She said that "due to the exclusivity agreement with htc (what?) it won't be unlockable until after june". She did promise that it would be unlocked, however. Eff this man. First of all, it's not exclusive by a long shot, and second this is not how you do right by your custiners, either htc or at & t
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jayv81:
I think she means it's exclusive on att in the us. Same as they claimed the Iphone was exclusive to them when they had many carriers overseas that had it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
It took me several minutes to explain to the at & t rep who called me that I wasn't talking about sim unlock. He was useless. Once he understood that he had no resolution for me. I told him that I just wanted my complaint to be recorded properly because if enough people complained then perhaps the decision would be reversed.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] soccermon15:
Lucky Me

If what she says is true, this is good news (at least for me). I'm not yet on AT&T because I'm waiting for my contract to be up with T-Mobile in August. If it really is unlocked when she says it will be, I'll be in luck. Still sucks for those who already have the phone. I've made sure to sign the petition and file a BBB complaint. Keep up the good work everyone!

Lets all keep trying to spread the word, especially about the petition. I'm a little surprised there aren't at least 1,000 signatures yet.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Gromet:
Just files a BBB complaint myself.

..Gromet
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] belyle:
I just got off the phone with an AT&T rep from the "executive offices," whatever the heck that means. Her name was Andrea and her phone number is 336-286-5451. She seems to be (one of) the person(s) in charge of calling everyone who has filed a BBB complaint. She was very courteous, and listened to my complaints. But, she had pretty much no useful information for me.

Many people have called, so she spent the last couple of days learning about unlocking bootloader

she knows it's different that a SIM/Carrier unlock

said that there is discussion in the other departments about what they will have to do to allow a BL unlock

she is confident that it is "going to happen" and that it's "almost there"

She had no firm date, and also no tentative date

She suggested that I call the tech or data department by dialing 611 and requesting to be transfered to tech

She claimed to have an HTC One X herself

When I pressed her for details, she really didn't have anything for me. I did advise her that AT&T will be getting HOX returns on June 4th if there isn't something out by then. She said she wasn't aware of the end of the 30-day return window being then (really?), and that she'd pass the information along.

I repeatedly asked if I could speak with someone who can actually make the decision or has an impact, and she could not transfer me to such a person. So I made sure she understood why I/we are upset about the locked bootloader, asked her kindly to pass the information to the decision makers, then hung up. Total call time ~10 minutes.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Sounds like your call went better than mine.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
you should call the "tech department" and ask them for anyone. if anyone knew it would be them
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] trdsnow:
Just signed the petition and slammed everything I could.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] abrixxxx:
Signed. My One X will for sure be going back if the bootloader isn't unlocked around my 30 day time frame. (June 6th) New customer left Verizon and the disappointment of a GNex. Dev was awesome, phone/camera wasnt.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] badboydiablo:
I just got a call today from AT&T and the women says it's a manufacturer problem and they have nothing to do with it. She said they are working on a resolution and are going to call me back with more details when they have them.

Hope it get's unlocked soon guys.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] austin4913:
There is nothing about Sprint that is in any way 'better' than att or any other carrier...T-Mobile would be better and they don't even have lte...reception and call quality is horrible...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
I'll contact someone tomorrow. They haven't gotten back to me.

Also sorry I've been gone.

Diablo 3 takes up more of my time than I'm willing to admit.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
So tempted to play. All of my wow friends left me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Any news yet MM
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
my response:

Not sure what else I can do. It's getting depressing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Raadius:
We made WIRED.

Was checking my Flipboard, notice the update. It's 8 pages (flipboard) long. I RT. Hopefully this gives our issue MORE press.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Finally a "real"member of the media getting behind the cause.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
hate to say this, but if we don't get unlocked within my 30 days I'm probably going to return it for a white 4s. Why? White iphone 4s's hold the best resale value for when I want to come back to android ^_^ besides it'll integrate with my ipad blah blah blah.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] doin-it:
Ditto, with acception of 4s. Will never go back to Apple. Prob just revert back to my inspire & wait for the gs3 in a couple months.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
See the thing is I became an att customer the day the HOX came out. Is there a way for me to return this phone, get my money back and wait for another phone of interest to come out? Basically put my 2 year agreement discount on hold until another phone becomes available. I would be more than happy to do something like that if things don't go our way. That way I could still can another HOX if things work out.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
Sorry guys.

Ordered my Galaxy Nexus today.

I'm willing to downgrade my hardware to support open source, unlocked bootloader, and development. I feel that by not returning this phone - I am playing a part in supporting locked bootloaders.

I will continue to support this movement, update this thread, pester AT&T, and will probably be back should the bootloader be unlocked when my girlfriend needs a phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
Can anyone answer this?

I might be joining you as well. The phone is flawless but it could be so much more with custom ROM's and kernels.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
Yes. You are looking for a reverse upgrade.

Keep in mind you will need to provide your own GSM phone obviously.

There is still a restocking fee.

But yeah, you can be on AT&T with no contract.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
When I want to come back will I be able to apply my 2 year agreement discount to another phone?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
Yes. Any phone. You can stay off contract for as long as you want.

You already have a second phone though?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] robstunner:
No offense but is not going to do anything, but if it makes you feel better go for it. I left the galaxy nexus for this phone and I'm beyond happy. With aokp and tunafaux kernel, vs stock one x this phone still has better battery life, better reception, better screen, better camera and more 3rd party accessory support. It's been 6 months and they still cant release their pogo car dock because of a software bug.

There's more to a phone than an unlocked bootloader. And there's more to life than a phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
Of course I know it won't change the outcome of the bootloader. But I'm standing on my own personal beliefs.

And we're on XDA, phones are a pretty big part of most of our lives. I'll take one that respects my freedom.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xdp:
I really wanted to take this approach. After using custom ROMs for almost two years now I was hoping that Android and Sense had evolved enough that I could just use the phone out of the box and be happy with it. This phone DOES have better hardware than the GNex, that is for sure. Problem is, what if the bootloader is never unlocked? It's a gamble and I don't want to buy into that for 2 years. First, as Shaddy-Z said, I don't want to support AT&T's ****ty policies which buying this phone is doing. Second, I started off using Sense on my EVO 4G two years ago but eventually had to switch to CM6 due to show-stoppper bugs and functionality changes that HTC pushed out. You never know when that will happen again...they could deliver an update that breaks functionality and then be lazy about updating it (maybe AT&T's fault, who knows). It's just too much uncertainty.

I was going to buy this phone and only flash CM9 in the future if HTC dragged their feet delivering Jelly Bean. But with the multitasking issue and the locked bootloader, I think I'll just be getting the GNex as well and waiting for the new Nexus lineup in the fall.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
Damn I really had some high hopes for this phone. Looking at the custom roms available for the international version makes me wish we had them! The phone would be 100x better. I guess I'm going to be looking into other devices soon. I know its hated around here, but ill probably get an iPhone with a mophie juice pack. Oh well maybe one day ill come back.

Sent from my Calculator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
What if they never unlock the hox bootloader? at the same time What if they lock the Galaxy Nexus bootloader... those are both pretty big what ifs... I too have had nothing but custom roms and root and s-off since my nexus one. EVO upgrade..S-Off instantly.. Upgrade to Sensation...Locked for 2 months. Upgrade to h0x, only been out about 2 weeks and people are giving up already.. To each their own i guess. But from having every previous phone unlocked this hox stock still out performs them all. I'd never downgrade even if we never got unlocked.. Thats how fast...and sleek...and beautiful this phone is. I'll also sign petitions, spam facebook, send emails and tweets concerning my locked bl feelings..but i wont cut off my nose to spite my face.. THIS IS AN AWESOME PHONE unlocked or not.

HTC will fix the bugs, they normally always do. ATT will unlock the bootloader sooner or later..If they dont, it wll get unlocked unofficially sooner or later.. Do you know of any phone thats worth having that isnt unlocked? They will address multitasking and make some changes.. Us early adopters of new technology will always be used as guinea pigs to an extent. I dont know of any phone ever released that was 100% perfect and bug free at launch...Do you? Hell i dont know of any phone that is 100% perfect years after launch..You? The first batch of users is always the final beta in my eyes... I'm still making calls and tethering..and i'm doing it a whole lot faster than on my Overclocked (1.7ghz) dual core HTC sensation..and i'm on a stock device!!!WOW!! i can barely wait... But i have no "better" choices so i'll wait. Downgrading isnt a better choice IMHO.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nman123:
Signed

It really pisses me off that they won't unlock the boot loader it isn't causing any harm to them and actually going to generate a hell lot more sales this is honestly some bull at&t needs to get their head out of their @$$ and start providing customers with what they want or from going to one of the largest cellular companies it will lose a lot of customers
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Shaddy-Z.:
Its just like when your parents say "I told you so" its annoying.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cjacks519:
Totally agree with you. I'll be holding onto to this puppy for awhile. Even stock it's better than any other android phone currently on the market. I can wait.

Already had a galaxy nexus which was modded and hacked to the max and I still feel this phone has it beat. Not a huge fan of Samsung build quality so I won't be jumping on the GSIII

Staying right here with the HOX! The bootloader will be unlocked...sooner rather than later. I feel confident in that. :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] axne1:
That's what they want us to do... Until android is solid and they start giving real device support they need to unlock the damn boot loaders. If I wanted a iPhone I'd get one. The hox is a joke locked down.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] robstunner:
Yea, im sure AT&T is loosing LOADS of customers because the One X doesnt have an unlocked bootloader......
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beyorj:
I wish HTC would be sneaky about this, they did it with the HTC Aria they released the side load app for it and then took it off because AT&T *****ed but once on the web always on the web, they could do this with the boot unlock as well, just leak it HTC we'll find it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bryyte:
Posted on at&t and HTC USA facebook.

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maroon Mushroom:
Update:

Original BBB complaint bounced back from AT&T to BBB with no resolution.

This allows me to file a follow up complaint / escalation with documentation (emails sent between myself and the rep from AT&T.

Haven't pushed anything this far before so I'm not too sure what will happen. Cross your fingers though
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NJGSII:
I have my fingers crossed.

I think with the bounty going on and the developments in the past week, we'll have an unofficial solution sooner than later.

Even if that does happen before support from HTCDEV, we should keep pushing till they enable an official solution.

Once the device reaches the end user we should be able to do whatever we want with it. Even if bought on contract, AT&T still doesn't own the device.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Notnilc:
I received a call back on my BBB complaint. The rep from At&t stated she had spoken to her tech department. The tech told her the unlock was in the works but it had not been approved yet. She did not have an eta.

So hopeful news.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
bad news

Well, well...just got my call back from the "office of the President" at Att and it was very short and to the point ! He knew exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned the locked bootloader aand replied that "att had no immediate plans of supporting this device in that way". I then asked if they were at least considering it ? He gave me the same line. I finally said I was seriously thinking of sending back the device and he replied "you have 30 days to do so". Voila!:mad:

So not very hopeful outside of our devs here making it happen.;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jayv81:
If they only knew that it's been rooted already and their not gonna be loosing anything else by allowing us to unlock it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mrvirginia:
i'm honestly not worried about whether an official or unofficial unlock comes. fortunately, not every ebay buyer cares about such things. i may pick up a SGS3, but it's gonna be well after launch. i'll let them work out all the kinks, let the price drop some and then consider jumping on that bandwagon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jayv81:
In the past I haven't been fond of Samsung phones but I may just switch to the sg3 also
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mrvirginia:
really? SGS2 and GNex were two of my fav Android devices. and now the HOX. i know lots put the build quality down, buuut i have to tell ya they both felt premium to me. on top of that, two of the easiest devices to root that i've ever had the pleasure of having.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jayv81:
My dislike for Samsung is from before the smartphone era. but they are getting back into my good graces. I've just been a lil bias since.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pside15:
Same kind of stuff happened with the Vivid and it got an official unlock. Everyone just needs to have a little patience. I have no doubt that it will get unlocked.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] austin4913:
Seriously, SGS2 has good build quality? I guess Pantech has good build quality too....wow..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] axne1:
I think it has great build quality. My sister owns one , and it really is a solid device. To bad the life cycle is only one year...

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Lol sorry poket post

Sent from my Rooted Hox
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] moehagene:
Original Atrix users had to wait forever for an unlock. It will happened. Keep the pressure up
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bosnazmaj:
Damn those that ***** about the phone need to get a life. If u don't like how the phone is, shut up and return it. No sense to post 20 million times about how u gonna return it. Nobody here gives a **** what u gonna do.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] belyle:
Damn those that ***** about people *****ing about the people *****ing about the phone need to get a life. If u don't like how the forums are, shut up and gtfo. No sense to post 20 million times about how u don't like the posts. Nobody here gives a **** what u gonna do.

FTFY

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Hey all,

I just got a survey in my email from AT&T asking about my One X. I'm assuming that some of you did and/or will soon. Make sure you do the survey! It takes a few minutes, but there are several questions that you can say why you're dissatisfied with the device and how they can fix it (unlock the bootloader).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] austin4913:
Amen! This forum is for the advancement of the One X...if you don't like the device then go back to your prepaid go phone and continue with your job of asking people if they want their fries supersized...I get on this forum, which is great for most part, and encounter oxygen thieves that should be neutered like a pet so they don't contaminate the rest of the world...the rhetoric of crybabies gets old...get over it...