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[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
Man, I don't know if anyone posts in as many forums as you DanBa!

For anyone wondering how that rigs sounds, it's mine, and sounds incredible. The (much) more modest rig I had before that S3-->E7-->Senn HD25-1 II still sounded great in it's own right, so you can certainly outlay a lot less than I did and still get a seriously great sound.
[Galaxy S III General] brendonwardmusic:
:eek: is that a red s3?
[Galaxy S III General] bbboldy:
wow...man, seriously, that red gs3 looks cool...

wondering if the red one will come as an international version too :crying: really love it :good:
[Galaxy S III General] 30Seconds:
Just wondering if anyone who had used one of the Jellybean ROMs has noticed anything better or worse with music quality?
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
Indeed. Got it from Ebay and running it on Telecom NZ network after SIM unlocking it. Really like how it looks, thought I might not and was gearing up to hand it off to my fiance and keep the white international one I have, but then saw it and decided I would keep it after all!
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Release one possibly 1% better release two possibly 1% worse .

Difficult to quantify quality for music as tastes vary and some just want extra loud noise or boom boom .Also depends upon MP3 coding and headphones used .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III with Snapdragon SoC & USB DAC/amp HeadAmp Pico:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/6330#post_8639661

Galaxy S III > digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable >> Pico >> V-Moda M-80

Galaxy S III > digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable >> Pico >> Thunderpants TP1

Galaxy S III > digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable >> Pico >> Audez'e LCD-2
[Galaxy S III General] gavinfabl:
Both you guys have outrageously amazing rigs for your S3. Very impressive :)

And the red S3 looks very cool!
[Galaxy S III General] midirt:
Which USB DAC for noth-american S3

I'm vonsidering upgrading from my Galaxy S (with voodoo sound and wolfson chip) to Galaxy S3. I understand that north-american version does not have wolfson chip and audio is worse than original S with voodoo. I use it for relatively high-quality aftermarket car audio using analog out to audio aux-in.

What are my options for s3? What's the cheapest usb dac I can use with north-american s3 and where to get it in Canada or US online?

Is there any guide about how to set it up? This topic is huge...

Thanks!
[Galaxy S III General] midirt:
I was excited that there is a solution to poor DAC in G3 for my car, but then I thought that USB DAC takes place of power, so how then could i route power to the phone? Is ther a kind of Y-cable for USB just to add power? I don't think Android would recognize USB DAC through powered USB hub, would it?
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
Yeah, our rigs are frankly a bit ridiculous. A certain passion (? insanity) in play, clearly.

The FiiO E7 is about $70 and widely available - Ebay/Amazon and many other sellers besides.

No drama to set it up, plug USB cable into DAC, other end of USB cable into USB OTG cable/adapter, plug that into S3. Done.

RE: Powered hubs and USB audio - may actually work (everything else I've tried via a powered hub has worked). I will try later and let you know.
[Galaxy S III General] midirt:
Please try and let me know! Thanks. Power issue would be a dealbreaker to me. IfI can't find a solution to power phone wirh usb dac - I won't be ab;e to upgrade to S3, because i need quality audio in my car...
[Galaxy S III General] peteri8706:
Yep, much the same, JB seems a bit 'louder' through the loudspeaker at the same volume as what ICS was. I'm using Omega v16.1 at the moment.
[Galaxy S III General] midirt:
This thread shows whole bunch of USB devices working through a powered hub from S3, however the curious thing is that S3 battery doees not show that it's charging, not sure whey it is so. Maybe it's not possible to be charging while being usb host? Than it's a big problem... Any thoughts?

It's possibel the powered hum on the video doeesn't send power upstream. I foudn this USB OTG + power cable on ebay. Looks promising. Did anyone try this? Can it slow-charge phone from car USB adapter and provide power and data to USB DAC?
[Galaxy S III General] Erahgon:
Maybe possible through some kernel mods (like Siyah kernel). I don't think it can charge the phone art the same time natively though.
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
Samsung wireless charger connected to cigarette lighter FTW!

(sorry, not had a chance to test that out for you yet)
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
A Samsung Galaxy S III interworks with a USB DAC/amp FiiO E7:

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=568&t=2770200&m=s&s=20&r=9&last=38070269

http://nwavguy.blogspot.fr/2011/05/fiio-e7-usb-dac-amp.html

Samsung Galaxy S III > digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable (Micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> FiiO E7 >> Westone UM3X
[Galaxy S III General] chauzu:
Hi, has anyone tried the Hifiman RE-0 earphones with the S3?

I'm wondering if the S3 can drive them properly considering the earphones impedance(64 ohms).

I don't want to use an amp.

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] radeonxt:
i was searching for my posts here because i thought i already posted here.

it was the other related thread. so here goes the answer to your question.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30818046#post30818046

:victory:
[Galaxy S III General] ballsofsteel:
Hi there, new galaxy s3 user here. Quality of the music is good, but it is somewhat worse than my previous galaxy s1. However, the galaxy s1 was aided with the CM10 DSP manager so it may not be entirely fair to compare the two since my s3 is running stock with root. I've heard the galaxy s2 has worse audio quality than the s1, so I'd like to know how s3 users who used the s2 before feel about the quality.
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
S1 S2 S3 quality through decent earbuds never bothered me on any of them .

DSP manager is posted on SGS3 forum .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
S3 audio quality is far superior to the S2. It is possibly comparable to the Sgs1 but I can't really remember to be honest.

The S3 uses the wolfson audio chip, a newer version of the wolfson in the S1.

The S2 used a yamaha dac which was inferior and far less tunable.

With decent earbuds you can't BUT hear the difference between the S2 & S3.
[Galaxy S III General] midirt:
Unless you are talking about north-american version of s3 which does NOT have Wolfson DAC and I have no idea how it sounds and I'd be interested to know because I'm looking to upgrade from my vodooed SGS.
[Galaxy S III General] ch0ka:
I have the FiiO E9 right in front of me.

Connected the S3 via OTG to the USB-In of the E9. But neither sound from my Headphones (K701), nor any changes seem to happen.

What have I done wrong ?
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Yeah I was talking about the i9300. Not sure about the US version.
[Galaxy S III General] drewgstevens:
My AT&T US version has the worst sound quality I've experienced in any kind of personal device unfortunately...
[Galaxy S III General] Kendoji:
Do you have an E7 docked in the E9? The E9 doesn't have a DAC by itself, but will work well with the E7 connected.
[Galaxy S III General] jonstatt:
Apologies for going off topic. The sooner, universal, truly international phones are developed the better it will be for all of us. R&D is split over multiple versions of the phone that are SO different to each other (CPU, DAC, communication ICs etc), that not only does this result in more expensive phones, but also less refined and developed ones.

We had started to see a convergence in global models with 3G, only for this to be "temporarily at least" splintered again with LTE. Once this convergence takes place again, perhaps we will see more R&D invested in sound quality in general, as more staff are devoted to one single model and bugs like the distortion in screen-off won't happen!
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
So a question how do you decide quality .

One mans noise is another mans beats .

One mans sound level of 5 is an others 10 .

Simple fact is that S1 S2 and S3 became my preferred portable music players for the music i want to listen to .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
You could associate the FiiO E9 with an ODAC, one of the best DACs and at an affordable price:

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/dacs/e-dac-24bit-miniature-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac

http://nwavguy.blogspot.fr/

S3 >> digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable (Micro-A plug inserted in the S3) >> ODAC >> FiiO E9 >> headphone

"I was surprised to find that the e09k and the odac was clearly better than the e09 and e17. I suspect that because the later is made to be docked and tuned to each other that it would naturally sound better. To me, it does not.

The e09k has a switch on the front that allows you to go easily from docked e17 to odac. I've a/b ed them many times times. The odac is clearly the better dac. Better at revealing details, providing more layers of sound....without sounding too analytical but just nice and musical.

Even with the hardware EQ, one of my favorite e17 features, I'd still pick the odac."

http://www.head-fi.org/t/611778/brief-odac-impressions/870#post_8656530

"I'd love to have a E17 if it works with the phone, too, but until then I'm rockin' out with the GS3 > ODAC > O2 combo. It sounds fantastic but is a bit bulkier than I'd like, even with the ODAC+O2+batteries all in one original O2 enclosure."

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/255#post_8660022

S3 >> digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable (Micro-A plug inserted in the S3) >> ODAC >> portable amp Neco V3 >> headphone

"It's downright disturbing how incredible this combo sounds with the HE-500. In fact, it should probably be illegal (**looks at Arizona**).

When driving the HE-500.. I like this combo more than the O2."

http://www.head-fi.org/t/513233/neco-soundlabs-portable-v-2-amp/105#post_8478902

"Great, great sound. In particular, you need to hear a Neco pair up with a pair of HiFiMAN HE-500s. It's like they were made for eachother. The Neco is phenomenal with other cans, too, but it's mind-blowing with the HE-500s."

http://www.head-fi.org/t/513233/neco-soundlabs-portable-v-2-amp/75#post_8366398
[Galaxy S III General] Viper_21:
[SiyahKernel] STweaks graphical equalizer settings that reproduce "Eargasm" preset?

I am running SiyahKernel currently and thoroughly enjoying the improved audio experience. :D

The Eargsam preset spunds the best in my ears; however over a long period my ears get a little sensitive to the bass.

So I would like to have the Eargasm preset with just a little less bass. I thought of trying to reproduce the Eargasm settings in the graphic equalizer of STweaks and then to fiddle with the bands in the g'equalizer to reduce the bass. If anyone has a better idea, please let me know.

Anyhow, I would appreciate it if someone with prior knowledge or a good ear could tell me what band settings to apply in the graphic equalizer in STweaks in order to mimic Eargasm, and then which band(s) to tweak to reduce the bass every so slightly.

Thanks. :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] bluesman1306:
Are there any alternative Kernels (expect the siyah) with the same or similar audio tweaks?

...cause I got huge stability problems with super nexus rom

Thank you :)
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Try " pleasant for ears" preset and increase the bass a little on your players eq. That's what I use.

But In the eq in STweaks ... The lower numbers (the first 2 bands) would affect the bass.
[Galaxy S III General] YoungAceAtlanta:
after installing Siyah i have 0 problems with my audio output..
[Galaxy S III General] bluesman1306:
The first time I installed Siyah it also worked. But 5 days later....unfornatelly I can´t do a simple phonecall with my "Smartphone" :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & Objective DAC (ODAC):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/624102/dap-with-unamped-line-out-and-good-dac#post_8674007

Galaxy S III > digital audio stream >> 4-in-1 connection kit substituting a USB OTG cable >> ODAC >> Headstage Arrow G3 amp >> headphone
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Came across this non SGS mod .

Might like to open it up and have a look .

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1609868

jje
[Galaxy S III General] Viper_21:
Thanks KennyLegend. Would still appreciate it though if someone could give the exact band gain settings on the equalizer to reproduce the Eargasm preset. :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] Chatbox:
I'm here to report that the "iQube v2" DAC/AMP is working with my international S3.

But Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus (DAC and preAMP, non-portable) does not work with my S3.
[Galaxy S III General] 881kevin:
Flashed with Siyah kernel. It just sounds very much better to me, though I can't describ the difference.

What actually it has done to my phone??
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Is the fiio e7 better than the internal Wolfson dac?
[Galaxy S III General] nfsmw_gr:
I don't get this...

Why would someone do this?What are the benefits?
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Lots of spontaneous smiles!

"Spent my hour at lunch today listening [to a portable Hi-Fi rig], just totally engrossed. Lots of spontaneous smiles, which for me is the most meaningful metric of sound quality. Cherub Rock literally gave me goosebumps."

[NZtechfreak]

http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/6330#post_8637656

The portable Hi-Fi rig of NZtechfreak: SGS3 + USB DAC "HeadAmp Pico" + headphone "Beyerdynamic T5p"

http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/6300#post_8636759

The rig of his 2&1/2 year old son: "a Voodoo'd S1 and some cheap TDK headphones"

http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/6645#post_8681221
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
According to NZtechfreak, "the E7 sounds dramatically better than the headphone port."

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/315#post_8437683

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/galaxy-s-iii-usb-audio-is-it-really.html

stock S3 > digital audio stream > USB out >> FiiO E7 USB DAC including a Wolfson WM8740 DAC chip > FiiO E7 amp >> a given headphone

"sounds dramatically better" than

stock S3 > digital audio stream > internal DAC including a Wolfson WM1811 DAC chip > internal amp > headphone out >> a same given headphone
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
And that's relevant to this sound thread how??

Stop trolling. :mad:
[Galaxy S III General] cowppl:
Hey guys, I know this has probably been answered a hundred times in this thread but to be honest, looking through the last few pages, it's all a bit over my head and would like the answer to be dumbed down for me. I am a complete noob when it comes to this

I heard that in JB the S3 will be able to play music through the micro-

usb. This would be perfect for my car instead of using the aux cable, i

could charge my phone and play music through just one cable.

Forget project butter, this is the feature I am most looking forward to.

once the official jb is out, will I just be able to connect it to the usb and be ready to go, or is it not that simple. I saw u guys talking about adapters and stuff so I am a bit worried about that. I was looking for less clutter and wires. also will the sound quality at least be as good as through the headphone jack. not an audiophile by a long shot, but I have been spoilt by voodoo on the sgs1.

I have an international S3
[Galaxy S III General] nfsmw_gr:
Oook....thanks for that mate! :)

I wouldn't do that ever...no matter how incredibly the S3 would sound after this...

I like having my phone free from wires and to keep it as portable as possible thus the only ones i ever attach to it are my Jvc Xtreme eXplosives and my charger...:)

Those with Siyah give me the quality i want,i don't thin i need more than this really...:p
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
I get you're point but to each his own mate. Danba is a true audiophile and as such good is never enough.

I'm happy though that people in head fi are using the sgs3 as a music source. Says much about the sq of this toy :).
[Galaxy S III General] nfsmw_gr:
your*

Yes,i totally agree! :)

+1
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
Did anybody test SQ on JB leaks? Is it as good as ICS + Siyah?
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
i read part of that thread and others seem to thing the sq of the wolfson without an external is almost equal to the e7. i think one of the reasons nz thinks so lowly of the wolfson is because his headphones are so hard to drive that they benefit from the dac also being an amp.

the thread is 50+ pages long, tldr for everything, but i hardly saw anyone test it with the siyah kernel. i wonder what people would think then?
[Galaxy S III General] Chatbox:
Just want to post a link to the Go-Dap X working with SGS3 (if it's not already posted): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKtXfbiWeFg

I've previously posted that the iQube v2 can function with the international SGS3. This is still true. However, upon closer listening to the sound quality from the iQube v2 (SGS3 --> USB OTG --> USB mini --> iQube v2 --> Shure SE535), vs the headphone port on the phone, vs the DacMagic Plus (as my current reference), I can say that it's pointless using the iQube v2 as a DAC as the SGS3's built-in DAC provides a wider and deeper soundstage, better/clearer/more detailed instrument presentations (in comparison). Sound quality from the SGS3 is below the DacMagic Plus, but above the iQube V2.

Audio track used was "The Echo Game" (track 3)from the "House of Flying Daggers - Soundtrack", in FLAC (16bit 44.1kHz).
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
So I've recently switched to Siyah kernel and I tried the eargasm preset that everyone else recommends. I find it's sound quite muffled, with less clarity, when used in both poweramp and stock player.

Anyone else think it's so?
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
Use the hardware equalizer and manually set your own better of that way
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
I do, specially with good earphones as Shure 530s. I use (for rock music) Siyah EQ with +4 +5 +3 0 0 gain settings and flat in Poweramp.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
I'll try this. Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] Kendoji:
Yep the Eargasm preset sounds like ass. If you have good headphones you'll probably find that the sound is best without any EQ tinkering at all.
[Galaxy S III General] EdgaBimbam:
yeh eargasm nothing special, but try bass with trebble. For me it is the best.
[Galaxy S III General] zikarus:
+1 - best without EQ. In the end there is almost no need for scooby doo anyways. I use the Franco Kernel and cannot hear a difference at least not a significant difference soundwise compared to Siyah...

GT I 9300 tapatalking...
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Thanks for this settings, makes my poweramp usable again. Good clarity, forward mids, very natural, no overemphasized bass nor treble.

But I don't know, I think I still prefer Siyah EQ disabled with stock player and small smiley face, +3 clarity, +1 3d. I'm getting better sound stage and clarity with this I think. But I'll compare over the next few days.
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
The ACS-T15 aren't difficult to drive, and the Senn HD25-1 II aren't particularly difficult to drive either really. Also, I volume matched the comparison as closely as possible to diminish any influence by volume and the amp component of the E7(flawed doing that by ear, without proper equipment to measure volume, but best information I had at my disposal and I mentioned that all tests were volume matched in the blog piece). That involved turning the E7 down a fairly long way from usual listening levels, but there was still a clear disparity in quality to my ear (that only grows with increasing volume from the E7). I say to my ear because of course these are subjective things, and other people may feel differently (particularly depending on the genres they listen to as I mention in the blog in relation to iPhone comparison).

Please be aware since the initial firmware release they changed the audio software, so how it sounds now on stock compared to the E7 may well differ (I don't have my E7 with me at the moment, so can't comment on that).

Regardless, my Pico sounds A LOT better than the S3 on stock firmware, so I have little interest in listening to it without an external DAC any longer.

In relation to that particular thread, from memory there were people disputing that the E7 sounded a lot better, but I don't recall that any of them had actually heard it via an E7 and compared (in other words their objection is worthless). For the most part they seemed to be people who really liked how the S3 sounded stock, and were philosophically opposed to using external DACs, so they seemed to find some kind of insult in what my ear tells me.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Thanks NZ

just the kind of detailed response I was hoping for. Although I've always thought of the senn hd 25 I as difficult to drive for a portable source, I haven't tested it myself with the sgs3.

I think there were some people on that thread that actually had both the e7 and the sgs3, but you're right to assume that some of them were just fixated with the wolfson.

It's fairly easy to compare the e7 with the sgs3, just audition them in an audio store. I'll do that when my vsonic gr07 mk2 arrives and is broken in.
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
One of my other editors has borrowed the E7 since I have the Pico now, unfortunately there are no audio stores here to try that sort of thing out otherwise :(

Certainly the HD251-II isn't as easily driven as a sensitive IEM with its 75ohm impedance, but its sensitive enough to be driven quite well by portable sources. The ACS-T15 in comparison has an impedance in the order of 40ohm, so again, less sensitive than many IEMs, but certainly not a problem to drive from portable sources.

Be interested to hear your thoughts on the E7 Vs S3 now on updated firmwares when you get to it.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Since I ordered the vsonic gr07 mk2 bass edition, it will take some time. This model will be released 3rd week of September and I should get it around the first week of October. I will have to burn it in for some 200 hours before testing it out with the e7 though.

But when I test it out I'll try to compare with the at ath 100, seen hd25, akg 555, and if possible the umx3 as well.

By that time however, we should have the official Jellybean update, i'm not sure if that comes out with audio enhancements.

What pico model you using, I'll see if they have that for demo too.
[Galaxy S III General] Kendoji:
I received my Leckerton UHA-6S.MKII portable DAC/amp today and it works via USB as well (I took a gamble when ordering it, based on the fact that it uses the same TI USB controller as the FiiO E7). The sound is fantastic, very happy with it so far.

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & Stoner Acoustics UD100, an affordable tiny USB DAC based on ESS Sabre ES9023 chip:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2452730&st=160&p=54596977&#entry54596977

http://www.inearmatters.net/2012/09/tiny-dac-big-sound-impression-of-stoner.html

Galaxy S III > digital audio flow >> UD100 >> Audio Technica ATH-CK100 triple balanced armature inner headphone

"Volume level is sufficient, no amp required."
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
It's a HeadAmp Pico USB DAC/amp. It seems to only play nicely with the US version for now however, and requires connecting via a USB hub for the international one (one person is able to connect it to his int S3 without a hub, but the other two of us with S3s and Pico's haven't been able to replicate that).
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
That sounds like too much trouble for me.

But how would you compare the sound to the e7?
[Galaxy S III General] tolis626:
If I understood correctly it's an issue with power.In that case you can use a USB Y-cable and attach some external source like a portable charger.It should have the same effect as a powered hub.