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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
I couldn't care less really, hence my first post :-P.

Besides the benchmarking power it may have, no, I don't find it interesting. Benchmarking may be the only time you may actually find a difference between the two. It may beat the S with some hardware but in visual performance, much like the one x, I believe you may have to fight to see a noticeable difference.

You see, im not all about benchmarks, also I am not impressed by a recycled design and whether I can reach tablets in benchmarks when in actual performance it may perform better.

Call me a fanboy or not, but it really doesn't interest me. In the current smartphone market I think its just not needed unless you are a benchmark junkie, above that.....as K900 said...its a 'meh' device.

The S can run everything just fine as it is, and the jumps sometimes comes with any android device...it's the way it's written, if you don't want the occasional jumps or app lag, get an Iphone. It's always been a standard issue with Android, but I have to say on the S I get it very very rare already.

Also, as I said above, most apps aren't even built to utilize a dual-core fully, so where is the idea that a quad is better coming from? Maybe within 2 years it could happen, but by then most people tech savvy replaces their phones.

Its all how you look at it I guess...but to me, its just one of those phones I wouldn't want.

And on the rival thing...what? I don't consider the phone even close to the S in design standards, and that's the most important factor for me mostly, so really Samsung has lost that battle long ago. I think we may have a bit of a misunderstanding here over what I think a rival is ;). Everyone has a reason why they pick their phones, and specs is only a small part of it.

And just so you know, my choice of a phone before the S was the new Razr, and the only reason I didn't get it, is because it isn't easily available here. I also would have picked that phone due to it's looks, and a small bit due to it's specs. I am not a Sony fanboy, I just have yet to see (besides the Razr) a phone that can appease me aesthetically.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
I never asked anyone to justify their purchase of the xperia. I just asked for first impressions of the galaxy S3.

As of yet, you have yet to volunteer anything you see in it that's good.

It's all why it's bad or why it's not needed.

I wonder who decides what's needed or not as the case may be.

I think it impossible that you don't think there is anything good about the S3 and so my gripe if you want to call it that, is the fact you can't bring yourself to say it.

Need I remind you, the phone is not an enemy. Just another device amongst many.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
Did you miss the part where I said it had better hardware? I guess so :-P but I followed with that it will only be visible with benchmarks, comparisons, funny aren't they? Im making comparisons, not defending.

Within the comparisons I stated what was better, sorry, next time I will italicize it and put it in bold so you can better understand.

Better benchmarks usually mean better hardware, I will try next time to be clearer.

I will try not to compare the two phones next time, maybe you won't get lost thinking im a Xperia S warrior a have a vendetta out for Samsung.

If you read my last post you should have also been able to pick out why I pick phones over others.

Reading is fundamental.

Edit: the reason why I went through why I got the S and such is because I was hoping you would get a background why I would never choose the gs3 and may be why you think im defending my choice. If you don't see enough positive points in my posts, tough because I don't, for my use see any.

You wanted my first impressions, you got it. Not to your liking, get over it, its got better hardware but its not for me because I feel its not needed, which I already explained. If you can't deduce my first opinions out of what I wrote, tough.

I can write the specs here for you if you like? But an impression is an opinion.. It can be positive or negative. For me its mostly negative because I see no use for such tech at the time. Im not denying it won't be a good phone ( spec-wise I would hope it would be with the overdone specs) its just not necessary.

To avoid repeating myself on the spec difference refer to my old post.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] FenrirMX:
@OP just because you don't like or agree with what others have posted here doesn't mean they are fanboys or ' tribalist'
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Completely wrong. Most of the criticisms of the galaxy S3 are valid.

But criticism alone seems very harsh for a phone like the S3.

Very few people have shown the grace to compliment the phone in any way which I find disappointing.

Even if I had asked the question in the general section, I'm sure all the different fanboys from all the different tribes would have populated the discussion with the same stuff.

Objectivity is almost impossible to find nowadays.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
Well here's the thing.

An opinion can't be objective, that's why its an opinion. A review on the other hand can, though most of the time it isn't.

Its funny how you consider my opinion being some sort of fanboy, when I find it just not useful at this time to own a device that doesn't bring much noticeably extra to the table.

You are asking for an opinion. if you can't welcome it without having a comment calling everyone a fanboy, maybe you are the one having a problem.

If positives aren't being found, maybe there just isn't much with the gs3? And for Christ sake, we are on a smartphone forum, if you have a problem with people being critical here about the negatives and positives of a phone (where some people here live and breathe mobile tech) maybe you don't belong here.

To me it seems you are the fanboy here whining that we aren't speaking positive enough about the phone. Nothing is wrong with this community, something is wrong with you.

Grow up.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unrealboot1:
You are wrong, the lag is only caused by the manufacturers own UI. The stock UI is totally smooth with the right kernel. My s1 is as smooth as an iphone.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
I don't see what's wrong in K900's post regarding non-linear CPU cores scaling, and how your post invalidate K900's argument.

Can you translate your post into plain English first?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] maxiordoqui:
We all are a bit dissapointed because we've been expecting too much.. Imagine how much would it cost if Samsung would accomplish all our expectations? Actually it costs about 600 Euros, Thats crazy.. Personally i thinks its a good phone but not an upgrade from the GS2, i see its performance has been improved, and probably 3d graphics now are great but.. Outside is the same ****, Plastic all over, a home physical button in the middle, two capacitive buttons at the sides, no camera button.. same 8mp camera, some software upgrades.. They could have done it better.. but.. well.. i wouldn't upgrade. It just wouldn't worth.. Also the screen has Pentile Matrix.. That ruins the HD Experience.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] meyourchum:
Sooo Happy That SGS3 Will Never Be Our SXS Killer

I saw SGS3 from my friend who is working for Samsung. This is what i felt after using that phone.

SGS3's UI is not that smooth ... :o Same plastic feel like SGS2 ... :confused: Screen Terribly Yellowish ... :mad: Camera is substandard ... Audio player gives good volume but quality is bad ... :p Like the SGS2 it has a physical home button and two capacitive buttons ... and a lot more negatives ...

SXS's UI is smooth even if its 2011-ish ... :) Good Built Quality and feel when using ... Screen With Reality Is Superb ... Excellent Camera ... :cool: Great Audio Capabilities ... Great Capacitive buttons (Hard though) ... The best Design in 2012 ... Above all its SONY ...

One thing is for sure " SGS3 Will Never Be Our SXS Killer "
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] R64:
Like most I'm disappointed with it. The pentile screen, overall design and ui are not my style. Then again I'm disappointed with all the 2012 phones so far.

I do like the physical home button, big screen and SoC. But in the end I think the sxs and one x are nicer.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Let's just forget it all. It was a mistake to ask the question. We get too attached to these devices that most feel the only way to justify their choice is to rubbish other brands.

The xperia is for me the best option but that does not in any way instill an instinctive hatred of other brands.

I think the only place you'll hear anything good said about the phone will be amongst the Samsung fanboys who won't tolerate any criticism of the phone.

It's just all soo tribal and that's such a shame.

Maybe we should get a forum for just general users who want to shield themselves from the endless tit for tat stuff you get from the tribesmen. A fanboy free zone where we can just talk about phones but that's just wishful thinking.

If you go into the HTC forum, you find the same hatred of everything else and likewise the Samsung forum.

Truly annoying.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] daoutlawz:
One thing I've always hated about the galaxy phones and most android phones is the positioning of those capacitive buttons. I could never seamlessly operate my note without accidentally touching the capacitive buttons while loading a movie or about to take a photo. As soon as you go to flip the phone into landscape you touch one...poor design. One strong thing I like about the xperias long design..I don't have that issue anymore!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] FenrirMX:
Jesus H Christ

Ate you always this dramatic or is it just when it comes to Samsung phones?

I have yet to see any fanboy- ish posts or this tribalism you keep going on about.

Yes the Galaxy S III has good specs, is it the end-all phone everyone expected?

Of course not

I doubt any phone could live up to the hype that one had behind it.

And finally, this is the Xperia S forum, of course opinions will be biased

Jeez
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] imTigger:
My first impression:

The ugliest flagship smartphone I've even seen, period.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Wow, and that makes you....a "Sony's fanboy" or a "duke of balance" LOL ;) ? First of all it's not really true, what you wrote. You're very welcome to visit Samsung Galaxy R's section and you're gonna find out how much criticism sammy can get from their users, and how they can value solid models of other brands. Forgive me being sarcastic but guys seriously, some of you don't sound much different than other brands' "fanboys" :)

As a person that doesn't possess any smartphone right now (I had two HTC- and two Sammy's devices before) I do not belong to any of those groups, but I am aware of advantages and disadvantages of those models.

I wouldn't buy S3 because: 1)Too huge 2)Too expensive 3)Pentile 4)Design

I am considering buying a new handset now but there are simply no good options to choose. Xperia S is very nice and elegant phone but there are four things I dislike about it: 1) design (sorry, it's a bit too elegant ;) it's all about taste, but the new xperia xs - I love it:) 2) locked bootloader (Is there really only Samsung with unlocked bootloader?) 3) still very poor dev's support 4) Adreno 220.

So true! :beer:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
You have yet to see any tribalism? You must be blind them.

Is everywhere. You even ended your post with ' this is an xperia s forum so opinions would be biased'.

I'm not stupid, I know folks here would be partial to the xperia. They own it.

My complaint was the near universal focus on the negatives of the galaxy s and scarcely any mention of its positives.

That's what I objected to.

You objected to accusation of tribalism with very tribalist remarks. A joke.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Sikiduck:
I think the S3 looks pretty nice. I just love the flip cover. We should have something like that for ours XS.

Overall I think S3 looks like a pretty phone, I did not like the previous one, S2 but with the perpul (or what its called) finished back-cover it does not look that bad at all.

And all the accessories you can get for it, thats very cool.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Indeed. When I bought Galaxy R I had to wait couple of monts for Copter Displayfilm, while Zagg had created invisible shield for S3 even before devices arrived to retailers. That's the advantage of flagship-models!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] anarchyuk:
why don't you take these posts over to the android general sections, this just detracts attention from the xperia s, they also cause bickering..

is this forum even being moderated?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shoz_on4u:
Please remove this thread

Hi,

Please remove this thread its really frustrating to have samsung device here in SONY. I was before using samsung and trust me it disappointed me like hell.:mad:

Dear Moderator,

Please do us (Sony Xperia S fans/owners) a favor of removing this thread.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Regards

:)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Yes Mods must close this thread cause it's useless.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I agree. It started as a fair comparison, but now it's just hate and tribalism from both sides.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] luffa1:
I think the hardware side very good, but the visual side is not satisfying me, I think the S2 looks better (if it came without the carrier logo on the front/back panel and the silver edges (white version) than it would be a beauty one). S3 not for me.. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
tribalism....that's serious accusation LOL ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] colossus:
THREAD CLOSED.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ale0crysis:
Hi guyz after 1 year and 6 months i'm going to buy the successor of the Galaxy S II but i will take the proud Galaxy S because i don't want to sell it. If this will be useful for developers want to have some help for porting new samsung android (Touchwiz Natural UX) UI and everything else i will be available as always i have done ;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greenandmean:
Basically I have a big problem, first I borrowed a friends tablet; then accidently locked it with pattern lock, now I can't remember the pattern lock; it wouldn't let me factory reset without the pattern and it didn't have a gmail account saved to the tablet. So I looked online and thought I would try a hard reset by holding the power button volume down and the home button and now I am stuck at a screen with a green android robot and a warning sign (a triangle with an exclamation mark) and it won't power off, and I can't remove the battery, so my questions are:

how to get out of the warning screen?

How to rid of pattern lock without factory reset or gmail account?

I would appreciate if anyone had any solutions thanks :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greenandmean:
Does anyone have a solution, because I could really use one
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ntsp00:
Hi all,

After flashing CM9 and getting rid of the yellow triangle everything worked perfect except for the GPS. I found this thread and have been trying to fix GPS the same way.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1580809&highlight=gps&page=2

However, I can't get Odin to start on my computer now! I've downloaded v1.85 from several different sites and it's all the same, my AVG anti-virus reports it as a virus now too. The error message I get is "Windows cannot access the specified device, path, or file. You may not have the appropriate permissions to access the item." Has anyone encountered this before?! I literally changed nothing on my computer and now Odin won't start.

Thanks for any help!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Any chance you actually do have a virus and it is trying to infect ODIN?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ntsp00:
I'm scanning my computer now just in case but I'm just stumped because the only files I've downloaded recently are roms. Odin worked last night and I decided I would try the GPS fix in the am but now I can't get Odin to start. Hopefully it is a virus so I can get this figured out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ntsp00:
Also this is unique to Odin. Any other program on my pc starts up fine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ntsp00:
Anti-Virus picked up infections but only of the Odin files....removed all and did a fresh download of Odin again but still came up as a threat. Gonna try it on the laptop and see what happens.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ntsp00:
Finally got it to work! Apparently my AVG was falsely identifying Odin as a virus therefore the Resident Shield wouldn't even let me access the file, not even giving me the correct error message. The Anti-Virus must have updated while I was asleep which would explain why it now thinks Odin is a virus but didn't last night.
[General Questions and Answers] Jlh4681:
I have a sprint galaxy s2 epic 4g touch. I flashed it for metropcs. and now all my options for updating the phone through settings dont work. Also Kies shows an error for updates as well.

How do I update my phone?

I'm asking mainly for the ICS that should be coming shortly. I dont want to miss out!
[General Questions and Answers] Jlh4681:
is there anyone who can help me out on this?
[General Questions and Answers] lowandbehold:
Your updates come from Sprint. You are not on the Sprint Network. You will not get updates.
[General Questions and Answers] Rijstkorrel9:
Most roms Will remove kies support.

Kies won't work
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jeff7424:
Hi guys! So today I found this Xperia S phonebook and dialer for Gingerbread. Test it on my locked, 2.3.4 .42 rooted Play and it worked! Remember to make a backup in case things go wrong.

Screenshot:

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Get it here and follow the instructions and there you go! :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25706145

Give him some credits! ;)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] pelm:
does it works on CM7?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] solomon4400:
Thanks a bunch for sharing. Works on jokawild rom and the cool part is that it still keeps the blue transparent theme instead of the original xperia s black transparent theme.:cool:
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] zachariahpope:
This looks awesome, great job. and thank you :):):):):)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jeff7424:
Not sure. If you want to try, backup the original apk using TB first.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] pelm:
ooook. this evening i'll try
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] itazchu:
beside the appearance, are there any other enhancement compared to the stock ones?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jeff7424:
SmartSearch feature.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Oguz1988:
Thanks, great work :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] daksha303:
YESSSSSSSSS :good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M.CoLo:
Hi all

I have a galaxy nexus GSM, today i do a big big bull****.

I have brick my galaxy nexus.

If i turn on i show the 1 pc and 1 phone with the yellow triangle in the middle.

Odin view the phone, but when i flash a package stops at "NAND Write Start!".

I have already buy a JIG from amazon.

Can you help me?

The phone does not go in download, recovery ecc... nothing.

Please!! Help ME! :(

Thanks for all
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
I thanked you by mistake Hehe, well its easy, go fastboot and flash stock google image vía odin.. Thats it...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M.CoLo:
But when i turn on the phone...it's not possibile to go in fastboot

Volume + volume - turn on, does not work...

Before i use odin, fastboot not worked, when i flash the error is "too many link".

Before i nave partition sd card with cwm

Can you explain me better how TO do this?

I don't have a big experience.

Thanks a lot!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gee2012:
You need to install the sdk tools and platform-tools from here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html install it. See that the fastboot-drivers are correctly installed. Connect your phone (in usb-debugging mode) with the computer with the usb cable. Open cmd and type adb devices, you should see the phone with your serial number. Than type adb reboot-bootloader and you`ll come in fastboot mode. If that`s ok you can flash a google factory image. If you can get out of this mess i advice you to read up and learn some stuff about rooting, flashing etc. Better not do that without even the basic knowledge, and stay away from Odin with this phone!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
Just Remove the battery for about 10 minutes, then put the battery back on and go fastboot v+ v- power, get a new cable and use another usb port in your computer to prevent futures failures with odin, in the mean time download the google factory image for your phone, gsm if your phone is gsm these are maguro builds or cdma if your phone its cdma these are toro builds

Thats it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M.CoLo:
thanks for all.

I had flash rom, root etc, but i don't have deep knowledge.

Just insert the battery appears this picture :

ttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Ro6yAY1lL.jpg

even if I hold down the buttons to go fastboot.

If i connect the phone to PC, odin see device connect.

Starting flash, but stop at "NAND Write Start!".

I do not know what to do :-/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
Thats cool go recovery mode only hold down volume - and power, do no use volume +
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M.CoLo:
as soon as i insert the battery, I get the photo that I showed.

No recovery, bootloader ecc.

any key combination always takes me there.

I tried using the command adb devices, but I see no phone :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
Does odin/computer recognice your phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M.CoLo:
yes, when i insert telephone appears "Added" in Odin.

But the telephone is not in download mode
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
Ok so Please get this http://dottech.org/tipsntricks/2153...ows-computer-for-use-with-your-android-phone/

In order to be able to send adb commands to your phone, once you can send commands use this command: adb reboot-recovery

so you can flash your stock image vía odin now with your phone in recovery mode

Or you can download the toolkit use this command adb reboot-fastboot

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1392310

And follow this wich its safer

0-put your phone in fastboot and plug to pc and open toolkit

1- Select your phone version

Meaning android gsm or cdma and its 4.0.1 4.0.2 4.0.3 4.0.4. It does not matter if it custom rom just matter if cdma or gsm and what version of android

2-install drivers if you dont have or if the toolkit does not recognice your phone in the list of attached files

3-once done with recognition use option 8 (donwload/extract/flash google factory inage)

4-Select 1 then if you are gsm go for 5 IMM76I for others get the lastest

5-after that go to the directory you installed the toolkit default is c:\Galaxy Nexus toolkit, open that folder and inside theres another folder called put_google_factory_image_here so the google file you just downloaded put it there, close that Windows and then back to toolkit use option 2 flash google factory image (dont not unzip the downloaded file)

Thats pretty much it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M.CoLo:
yes, adb worked on my pc I used it before this problem.

But now there are no device connected even if I have the phone connected and turn on.

I have already install the Toolkit, i use this to unlock bootloader

If i use adb or fastbook, with the toolkit or without, i receive "device not found"

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andrewlax120:
use odin and flash phone and pda but at seperate times...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M.CoLo:
Thanks, sorry but where i find phone and pda for my galaxy nexus?

I'm don't have deep knowledge to use odin.

Sorry

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
Try this, open toolkit and uninstall drivers, then disconnect the phone and install drivers again, connect the phone when promted, once you pc recognice the phone again use the adb command to go fastboot with adb reboot-fastboot once in fastboot well go to stock following toolkit option 8 procedure