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[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
Just curious: how much you evaluate your time? Hmm, spending so much time for $0.99 or even $2.99 is too expensive for me, for example :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] sirajgoku:
no its not possible......but u can always file a lawsuit....:P
[Windows Phone 7 General] sermann:
Why do you think that would work?
[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
sirajgoku is being facetious.

Like I said... a refund is possible, but pretty much only if MSFT made an error.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ruyzalim:
Yes a refund is possible! I was refunded already because I was charged twice by the same app I contacted Zune support and they emailed me in my language Portuguese and saw the problem and refunded me! I was refunded too once because I bought one app and now it's not anymore on marketplace its name is perfectscan i reseted my phone and wanted to install the app and couldn't because the app wasn't available anymore.

Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] xodeus:
So the refunds are only available for errors, not for those who find out that the app doesn't work correctly and just want money back.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sirajgoku:
Too bad....it doesn't work like that.... :(

They won't refund you for such a reason...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zhariak:
I purchased a game on my phone, got double billed (billed twice for the same game).

I just fired up a "Zune marketplace Chat support session". Explained what happened, refunded immediately!
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
No unfortunately not. Because, most apps and games come with trial mode. So you could try before you buy. However, for apps that don't offer trials modes, if the reviews and screenshots don't justify value of it, then I don't buy it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ruyzalim:
I think so!

Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pbecks1963:
Hello everybody,

Just wondering if there's a Odin-version of an ICS-ROM? (probably not, but had to ask)

?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rekatluos:
How were u even granted acces to the development section anyway ?

Q&A -> http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=748

And ODIN is the program you root the phone/flash with, theres no "ICS VERSION" ;\
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Le Brun:
Sammy never released an official ICS rom, so nope.

Who cares when we have CM9 :)
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
Looks good. I'll try this later...
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
it is good for some speed and performance... first time i have seen dual core actually add a good amount of performance and numbers in quadrant. i went from 2200 to 3000 just by doing this
[HTC EVO 3D] wujiku:
yeah.. i see what you mean. good work!
[HTC EVO 3D] minieod:
you might want to post the files in this thread as well, in case someone doesnt back them up, and wants to add it back

just a thought
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
great idea. i will post up the one i am using currently....

DB link coming soon... standby
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Nice seems a lil quicker thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] luis4ever:
You are the man!!! From 2600 to:

After i made the changes Quad and system recognizes both cores!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
BONE ASS STOCK...

i picked up the same gain, CPU went up 700 points, and IO went about the same... and picked up the same margin of gain as you - about 800 overall points
[HTC EVO 3D] Leeboy:
Awesome mod bro.......I'm not currently on ICS, but good to know you're already on top of things. Gonna wait for ICS roms to get more refined before flashing. Keep up the great work..........;)
[HTC EVO 3D] minieod:
oh...i meant the actual files that were deleted, the mp and therm files, in case someone takes them out, but wants to put them back

but that file is nice too
[HTC EVO 3D] luis4ever:
Just got a better score:

Good work!!! It seems this score is legit because it increases a lot on CPU and I/O is not bigger as 10k or more. Also, Quad and system tuner now say 2 cores
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
On it partner, this version of android will greatly benefit from having screen on/off profiles such as the ones found in mikeyxda's ROMs, and many others. Freeza and I are cooking some stuff up as we speak ;) as I am sure many are.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
ah, gotcha. i suppose i could. if they have the zip file on their SD card, however, they can always extract them from there with a root file browser :)

done it many times - much easier than downloading it
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
@luis4ever, is that new quadrant or old ?
[HTC EVO 3D] luis4ever:
Quad 2.0

This is with Quad 1.0 which is nearly close:
[HTC EVO 3D] Royalfox:
I guess this decreases battery life?

Inviato dal mio PG86100 utilizzando Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
If you think you might need them back just rename them and don't delete them.;)
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
it will drain a little faster, yes, not to anything unbearable tho. if you want to offset it, adjust your screen brightness lower just a tick.
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Trying this on gsm, hope it works :)

edit, darn it :? still the same score, guess gsm is different somehow
[HTC EVO 3D] mike.r.olson:
Seems to make ViperROM a bit snappier.
[HTC EVO 3D] ACoolGuy:
Hey Cobra. Instead of deleting the files, renameing to Xmpdecision and Xthermald would be better for those wanting to switch back. Also instead of deleting the startup codes, change the OP to have them simply comment out each line. This way if they decide to go back, it will be easy.
[HTC EVO 3D] SLver:
Too late, but the change is very noticeable XD
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
or you can just rename them via adb shell

i personally delete these files on EVERY rom i run, and never needed or wanted them back
[HTC EVO 3D] Leeboy:
So thermal protection is not a good idea.......:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
linux 3 provides native support for this in the kernel. it is unknown if HTC has it enabled or not until source is released, but i been running hard since last night and temps stay below 42 on the stock htc kernel

ALL of my recent kernels, even the 2.6 builds provide kernel level support as well, so no need for rom-side support.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leeboy:
Good to know, thank you;) May I ask which ICS rom you prefer with your kernel?
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
hi chad, any idea why this doesn't work for the gsm ics release ?
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
files should be the same for the device. same chip set - should work

sent from ICEvo
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
I'm pretty sure i followed your instruction carefully, delete the 2 files and edit the 3rd accordingly, then rebooted. It just doesn't seem to do anything on the GSM leak; shrugs, oh well maybe another GSM guy can give it a try.
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
I deleted the files without to worry about. Performance is definitely noticeable. Yes... battery drain a little more but it is not that bad. I will take that for the performance this tip is offering.

Thanks Cobraboy86 for this tip.
[HTC EVO 3D] Datguy_n_Disguy:
I kind of suck at doing this kind of stuff.

Can someone just make a flashable zip?
[HTC EVO 3D] Royalfox:
*whip sound*

Sent From My Pimp-Boy 3 Billion
[HTC EVO 3D] BrianBaker:
It's satisfying when you can actually do it yourself..give it a shot man.
[HTC EVO 3D] Datguy_n_Disguy:
Alright. I'll try, I just don't want to ruin the rom I'm on.
[HTC EVO 3D] m0fizor:
I tried this on GSM version and my scores in Antutu and Quadrant are smaller now:confused::eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] minieod:
You suck at deleting a file?

Does your computer have every single Microsoft word document you've ever created?

Sent from ICS using XDA.
[HTC EVO 3D] luis4ever:
After trying last kernel from chad and applying this mod will say that any kernel can compare to ones he makes. The biggest performance on GPU @1536 I have seen:

A-W-E-S-O-M-E:

Quad:

Antutu:

Nenamark 2:
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
I rofl'd

10 chars

sent from ICEvo
[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
That's why this is in cdma.
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
How do I delete the files?

Like, even root explorer calls them read only even after hitting mount r/w
[HTC EVO 3D] cautious911:
at the top of root explorer it says "mounted as r/w next to it a box says "mount R/O" click the mount R/O box and you'll be able to delete or rename the files as needed
[HTC EVO 3D] oblivion2k:
This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks. Tried it in ADB shell but on virtuous rom root isn't located in system/bin/sh which is where adb looks, and I have no idea how to get root besides that location.
[HTC EVO 3D] cnewman402:
So can I clarify the statement just to be sure. :confused:

Permissions on owner group and other all have rx on the directory of etc?

Then chown root and chgrp 2000 the .sh file?

The only reason im asking is because im not seeing a huge difference.

Thanks in advance!

What I did was all to the .sh
[HTC EVO 3D] Cwebb03:
So I feel like it has sped up my phone significantly, but AnTuTu says otherwise (Everything went down). Is there any way to check and see if both my cores are actually working?

Sent for my ICS 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] luis4ever:
System tuner or Quadrant Advanced
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
Got the perf gain. But left the phone alone to charge picked it up and this boy is getting hot :(
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
Some test results

ROM: JoelZ 1.13 release keys - Sense 3.6 (4.0.3)

STOCK HTC Linux 3 kernel

Quadrant: 1900

Antutu: 5200

With Chad's HTC RLS1 leak kernel

Quadrant: 2800

Antutu: 6600

With Chad's HTC RLS1 leak kernel and Force 2d rendering

Quadrant: 3070

Antutu: 6700

Chad's kernel + ICS Dual-core MOD + Force 2d rendering

Quadrant: 3700

Antutu: 7000
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
makes a big difference ;)

Sent from ICEvo
[HTC EVO 3D] luis4ever:
Is the Rom still in the plans?
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
Definately got the perf gain running Myn's but I am wondering why this MOD cause my battery to just get eaten up! I lost 50% last night when I left it off the charger. Usually its only 8% when I wake up on the morning. I have a stand by usage of 33% from my battery stats. Kind of crazy anyone else expierencing this or have any ideas?
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
yes it is man..

workin on it ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
ha, definitely not caused by simply doing this man...
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
My battery always drains faster unless I'm on a stock HTC kernel. I'm running Chad's + this mod so I don't expect my battery to be great lol. I probably will revert back for battery life as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
I dont know man... was talking to myn about this and he said he expierenced the same thing and that is why he didnt include it in this rom.

see thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25791969#post25791969

---------- Post added at 06:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:59 PM ----------

Ya I am running all stock no custom kernels here. I am reflashing Myns rom over my existing build to hopefully restore these files and my boot.sh file back to the roms baked in config to see if it resolves the battery drain.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
try only deleting mpdecision, and leave the thermald file... i don't think stock kernel has thermald enabled in deconfig... based on temperatures seen on my own device after i put the thermald file back in...

if you want to put the thermald file back in the ROM, extract it from the zip on your SD card, move it to /system/bin, and check all boxes for read and execute, and change owners to root, and 2000 - shell.

see if that works.

and having both cpus online at all times will drain battery... but not in the manner you described... i will investigate this a little more. for now, i am changing OP...
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Is there any adavantage to this than just enabling force dual core in system tuner ?
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
appreciate it cobra hopefully we can figure this out cause I would really like to take full advantage of these perf gains... I just need my battery too :P
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
well logically you can assume that running both cores will drain battery faster than having only 1 of them on most of the time. your cpu is essentially using twice the power to operate.

but....

it still is trumped by screen on usage... and therefore you should not notice a huge difference such as the one indicated...

i went 30 hours on one charge with this mod...

so standby time should be just fine... definitely not 50% over a 8 hour period. i think there is another issue there that you are having... see OP in a little bit...

links coming with necessary files need to restore thermald.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
updated... see OP

Sent from ICEvo
[HTC EVO 3D] Saintrheno:
still 2744 on quadrant scores ( nocturnal rom r102) :(:(
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
dont fret so much over quadrant scores... sometimes i get around 3100... sometimes 2700... it is simply a benchmark.

either way, your "benchmark" should up with this small modification.

and make sure you have hw accel checked in your settings.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Could deleting those 2 files also work on a GB room or only ics?
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
it depends on your rom/kernel combo...

all of chad's recent GB kernels had thermald enabled in deconfig. so they did not need it. the stock kernel/rom combo on gingerbread needs thermald.

performance on 2.3.4 GB will not increase by having both cores on. this is a common misconception about dual core on that platform. the software is not programmed to utilize synchronized multi thread - they handle tasks independently. you are wasting battery, with no performance increase, when using dual core on gingerbread......
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
Cobra did you test this with just the stock kernel? And you saw no dramatic battery loss? I flashed myns rls 2 this morning and I am thining about reapplying this MOD cause I definately want the performance gains from it. Just wondering if anyone else is expierencing high battery consumption after applying this MOD?

Cobra have you thought about making an updatable zip?
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
performance gains are noticeable, and battery drain is minimal.

i dont do flashable zips if possible. i want people to learn. too easy to flash a zip file.
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
lol nice idioloigy but assuming for those of us that know the "manual" way of doing things an update zip comes in handy when you are trying to quickly MOD your custom ROM and you are dealing with a lot of custom MODS.

Let me give you an example:

Full wipe + install custom rom + Restore Apps/Data + Install Leedroid tweaks + manually manipulate the file system to gain perf tweaks

From that little example you can see that it can be quite a cumbersome process for someone bouncing from rom to rom. However a flashable zip would obvioulsy take a lot of pain out of the process.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
i said when possible, not at all times. people don't need every single little thing fed to them. doing that creates noobness on forums, and ridiculous questions about things that should be common knowledge. obviously, a full ROM install requires a zip...

something like this... not so much. what it does do, however, is provide a simple understanding of some of your file system, and how a certain function works within android.

if somebody cannot handle this operation in the manner i have provided it, they should not be rooting their device imo. ;)

this method provides knowledge, instead of ignorance.
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
Ok Hitler
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
well, just sayin....

im not helping anybody by feeding them a mindless routine to do something. get over it, or gtfo and stop whining.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattsm:
That would be why those of us who "know" make our own flashable zip.

Good work OP. Simple answer to a question and that is what you got.
[HTC EVO 3D] sahandv1989:
Hi Is It Working On GSM ???
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxlvr:
I'm trying to learn. :) I made the changes manually using ES File Explorer/ES Note Editor.

Question is, if I made the changes manually, do I still need to change the owner of the file? ES lets me change permissions (I checked "execute" for User, Group, and Other), but I don't have the option to view/change the owner.

How can I check that both cores are being used?
[HTC EVO 3D] sahandv1989:
Is It Working On GSM ???
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
i dont use ES...

but try this file explorer instead.....

boss file explorer ;)

both cores will be on after you reboot, assuming everything was done properly
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxlvr:
Thanks. Raised my Quadrant score over 800 points.
[HTC EVO 3D] steelewise:
Ok so I don't understand you aren't willing to make a flashable zip but your directions are only half complete.

If you wanna be the teacher sometimes you have to spoon feed the info its just the nature of the beast, the first part of the instructions assumes everyone knows how to change owners on the file and make the neccesary changes to read and write permissions.

So it would be awesome to have complete directions so we could actually learn with out changing something we aren't supposed too.

I'm down to learn but when your directions are unclear it makes it difficult.

Thank you for the information on the mod I don't want to seem ungrateful but a little clarification would go a long way I think.

We all have ways of dealing, mine are sex and awesomeness.
[HTC EVO 3D] cloak.n.dagger:
Could you post your flashable zip for the rest of that that "don't know?" If you all have already created the file why not share with the rest of us that aren't developers and don't fully understand all the in's and out's of this kind of stuff?? Share the love guys, that's why we post on forums...
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Humbled up a bit, haven't you...
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
ahhhh.... you are correct.... missing information doesn't help either!!!! lol, ty... fixing now

not sure if i picked up the implication... explain??

and i am never humble....lollll
[HTC EVO 3D] tambourineman86:
is deleting mpdecision necessary? Since the shell doesn't start the binary on boot after modifying it, it is in effect disabling it, at least as far as I understand. I could be, and likely am, wrong, I was just curious.

EDIT: I tried it, on Newt's OneS RC3 with "stock" ics kernel, worked perfectly. Thank you for the clear instructions. The above was more of an aside than anything. I did delete mpdecision since it seemed to be the cleaner way to do it. Thank you for posting this very useful mod, I would recommend it to anyone on this Rom at the very least.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
^glad you found it useful. you don't have to delete it if you dont want to, but the key is to prevent it from either executing at boot - basically stop it from running.

you can rename the file by putting an x in front of it "xmpdecision"

that will deliver the same effect. i just remove it, because i know i wont add it back in there.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Just a little heads up Cobra... You might want to remove "He who shall not be named"s name from your OP.

God forbid you get banned for saying --REDACTED-- name anymore... Or stoned to death.

Sent from --REDACTED--
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Okay, there's satire, inside jokes, and then there's just ****ing immature, and that post is a perfect example of the latter.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Agreed, but the events leading to such comments were no better... :D

Hmm, another account disabled. Seems to be an epidemic... Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
Because Cobra is gonna get banned for giving credit to Chad for a simple mod?

He's doing the right thing by giving credit where it's due.
[HTC EVO 3D] cautious911:
Good looks cobraboy85 still waitin for ur ics,version or atleast s.k.v.03
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Cobraboy kind of had that coming. I highly doubt it had anything to do with chad.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Yeah, just two sides of the same coin...
[HTC EVO 3D] Mackn89:
I have the Newt S One R3 rom and is wondering will this still work before I actually try it?
[HTC EVO 3D] Gellenole:
hmm -- tried this on viperboy's ICS release and it does read dualcore on quadrant once, but I noticed that once it finds it and I leave and go back into the app, it says 1 core afterwards.

this is a strange occurance after the mod. The phone appears to go back to normal after a short length of time even after the shell script is ran.
[HTC EVO 3D] wachalookinat:
I know this sounds really lazy, but these edits make me nervous... Any way to make a flashable zip for us?
[HTC EVO 3D] HammDroid:
Just copy the files you're changing and either rename then with something like BAK in the front and keep them in the same directory, or move them somewhere else for safe keeping. I keep then in the same directory like I mentioned on the former. Also, you can just rename the files as I mentioned that you're supposed to delete, rather than deleting.

Eeezy peezy.
[HTC EVO 3D] wachalookinat:
Nah, bro... Safe assumption, I agree. I know my sheet, just lazy :p But ima do it. Thanks man.
[HTC EVO 3D] Gellenole:
chmod 644 <file name>
[HTC EVO 3D] Temka1337:
Ok so I was browsing the internetz trying to learn how to increase my phone's performance and stumbled on this thread. At first I was wondering about this thread having 3 stars but now after reading all the pages I know. I appreciate OP's work but he seems arrogant and his huge ego/urge to dictate people got in his way of earning 5 stars rating. He deserved the block on his account IMO.

Hell, I don't even know how to change the ownership of the file, but does that make me an ignorant noob? I don't think so. Bottomline is, doing good deeds for the society is bliss, but trying to forcefully instill your ideals into their minds may offset the previous good deed.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Ratings mean nothing here. Too many spiteful children.

As for results:

Performance +

Wasted Battery life ++

Conclusion:

Eh, not worth it

Explanation:

What I am about to say will shock and appaul you but read carefully. This idea is old. Ew, wipe off the dust old. The kernels and binaries are not, but the way people are configuring them is. Certain kernel developers have a set way of doing things. They will travel through fire just to keep things almost identical to how it was before.

Mpdecision can be configured in the init.rc or even through a terminal, but its just set the same way it has been for ages in most roms. Deleting it means you get all the cpu but take all the consequences with it.

service mpdecision /system/bin/mpdecision --no_sleep --avg_comp --single_core_while_panel_off

That is the default, why not just reconfigure?
[HTC EVO 3D] xCLUx:
twisted! loving your ROM man!!! :)

just browsing the dev section and saw this thread.

i have a question/comment... the consequences you speak of when referring to deleting mpdecision, simply battery life? correct?

also, seems it is a lot easier to just delete mpdecision and configure the cpu yourself. applying screen on/off scripts through init.d with an app (such as system tuner pro, or even just adding the scripts there) is a lot easier to guide a "newbie" through than editing a binary file... wouldn't you say?

seems the OP just provided the quickest and easiest method. but you are correct, either way does the trick :)
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Deleting it means you lose the ability to reconfigure. It's the easiest way to get performance but for how arrogant the comments about learning to do stuff were, it lacked a proper explanation of what happened when someone does it. It's like taking the governor from the cpu. I don't see many people choosing that over modifying it though.