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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Inc4g lte if it has the same camera tech as the one series.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
I actually agree with what you say. The next phone I'm getting is most likely a Nexus (assuming Samsung is making it of course) unless Verizon screws us over and ditches the next Nexus. Otherwise I'm going with a GSIII or the iPhone.

"All of those bacon strips"
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] funky_snowman:
gsm nexus, or iphone. i can't stand the Android skins.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
What would be even better it's if HTC got the next nexus device. Rumor is they were talking to google about it for jelly bean.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)

i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)

reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)

nexus:

i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp

radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)

would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4

i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it

battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)

rezound:

no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon

500 of the exact same sense roms

still officially on gb

battery debacle of the different voltage batts

not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)

(insert motorola device)

i wont buy motorola on principle

i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me

lg spectrum:

lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it

future phones?!

certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now

sgs3:

even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book

a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)

and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)

galaxy note (journal):

more unknowns

is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)

is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)

inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:

ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that

battery life is decent

will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)

will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go

i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)

similar camera to the one series

i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution

s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance

native full sense 4 and ics is nice

native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)

rumored htc note competitor:

umm, lets see how big it is really :eek:

how much it costs

how is battery life?

is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol

will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Nit you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the Inc4G. I'd like to see what official cost is and if it's not too bad I may try and score one off contract. I was finding Nexus and Rezounds going for 200-300 on ebay barely used.

I'd skip the Nexus because honestly it seems like it's been pretty lackluster compared to expectations people had for it. I also am not a fan of the whole ICS Holo theme which is why I'm so drawn to Sense4.

SGIII did absolutely nothing for me. The press conference was boring and it looks like just another run of the mill Galaxy phone. Touchwiz is also horrid and really ugly.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] andybones:
100% agree here.

I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.

(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jman42028:
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.

Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.

The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.

Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...

So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.

I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.

Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] hoodieNation:
Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] RegnierD:
The OG Incredible was my first Android too! It was the perfect intro to Android. I had the original Samsung AMOLED screen, which was much nicer than the SLCD version (imho) so it was gorgeous, and was easy to root. I flashed so many roms on that phone. I'm really surprised I didn't wear out the nand chip. I traded that phone for a Fascinate, with which I had a love-hate relationship. That's where I really learned how to use ADB. I won an LG Revolution from Phone Arena a couple months later, which was okay, but the way that phone was coded together, it was impossible to do anything with it. Plus, is was LTE, so it didn't have working AOSP. No devs ever got the phone, so its development situation was a little lacking. I traded it for my DInc2 about a month after I got it and I've had this phone since August. I've been so much happier having an HTC again. After Sammy and LG, I've been confirmed in my OEM of choice. It's not like Moto is going to sway me. Haha

I pre-ordered the Evo LTE yesterday, as I'm jumping to Sprint. I got bumped off my contract by family because they wouldn't give me the billing account password after they changed it, so I couldn't pay my bill over the phone anymore. They told me I had to drive down 45 minutes every month to pay them, which I couldn't do because I had lost my car in an accident that wasn't even my fault. It sucked. I lost my unlimited data plan. :(

If I were still on Verizon, I'd be jumping for joy that the Inc4G is a One S variant. The One S outperforms the S4 version of the One X a bit because it's qHD, not 720p. Plus, 4" is the perfect screen size. I don't think I'm gonna like the 4.7" screen on the Evo LTE at first. I'll get used to it, but damn that's a huge phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
i wouldnt use an upgrade on a 6/7 month old phone running an older s3 processor...but thats me :o
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jakob95:
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
well thats point, i wont buy something thats already older and tie myself for 20 months to it

and the thing with sense devices is that they historically a wasteland for dev support when another huge one comes out...so id bet you ll loose most of the rezound developers come the fall if verizon launches something that much better

now thats not to say other (new) devs wont step in, like the og inc and evo 4g saw...but stll

buy what you want obviously, but thats my take on things
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jakob95:
My update is in 3 months, do you think I should get the Incredible 4G in 3 months? And is the processor in the Incredible 4G the S4 faster then the Exynos in the Samsung Galaxy S2? And how about Tegra 3? Or the Ti-Omap 4 in the Nexus Galaxy? :) Or even the Exynos in the S3 :D?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
Wait to see what is out in 3 months, or what is due soon

Don't decide now id say
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] 420fan:
I'm really interested in seeing what the Dinc 4 looks like and would like to see how the Galaxy SIII is. I heard the camera was phenomenal on it, but time will tell. I'm eligible for an upgrade on May 22nd, but I refuse to pay the BS $30 upgrade fee, so I might get a ONE x and switch to Att.

A lot will depend on how customer service takes care of me come may 22nd. They will probably loose a 11 year customer over 30 bucks though.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Incredible 4? Technically the Incredible 4G LTE is supposed to be the Incredible 3....

Also, you say the the $30 upgrade fee is bad, but what happens if AT&T starts to raise prices on the plans? Because to my knowledge, AT&T is going to raise prices for the customers due to the failed merger with T-Mobile. What happens if that happens?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jakob95:
I think if you get it from Amazon they won't charge the $30 fee.

EDIT: Never mind they do. Wow so messed up.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bacon612:
It doesn't. HUUUUUUUUGE deal breaker for me. WTF HTC?!?!?!?!

http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
yeah its disappointing...but there still isnt a better alternative coming to verizon in the future camera wise
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] andybones:
I just sold my rezound so I can purchase an inc4g once it's released.

I have an upgrade due,

but I think I'll purchase the inc4g in full and same the update.

either way, andybones will be on the inc4g once released :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
good to hear man :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] 420fan:
I'm not really sure what to do. I'm really struggling which way to go. I do love the coverage I have with verizon, but have a serious issue with some of their policies and their sheer corporate greed.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Can't really disagree with that. I also feel a little outraged at the $30 upgrade fee because a corporate beast like Verizon shouldn't need to have their customers pay more money for an upgrade.

Verizon has good coverage and all, but their demand for more money does turn me away from them. Their upgrade fee is probably gonna end up backstabbing thrm when they lose some subscribers for that. This makes me want to go to Sprint or possibly AT&T (if the price is still better than Verizon after the price change).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jakob95:
A lot of the people here that say they want to get the Inc 4G say that they will get it without the contract, wouldn't it be like around $500-$600 then? Or do phones get a lot cheaper to $200-$300 fast? I don't know how the prices work out in the used market.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] juzz86:
It'll be that much outright from Verizon. CDMA phones lose value far quicker than GSM phones on the used market, you can pick up a Rezound for under $300 in the MP, same with a Droid 4 etc.

Won't take long after it hits to be able to score a good deal :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jakob95:
Wow so its basically stupid to buy an Android phone for $200 on contract then? And I thought you had to wait 2 years to sell the phone if it was on contract, or else verizon will put a bad ESN on it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
I still have 11 months till my scheduled upgrade, but there is no need to wait that long, or longer...

You can wait a few months after a phone has been released, and then go shopping on Ebay, Craigslist or the phone forums.

I recently picked up my GNex on Ebay for just over 300 bucks (manufacture refurb) It looks like new, and works great.

I basically paid what Vzw charged for this phone a few months back when it was released, but I'm still eligible for my upgrade in 11 months.

It's a win win :cool:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] juzz86:
Pretty much, yeah. You end up paying more over the length of the contract, it's always a long-term saving to get your own handset outright.

You only have to keep the account in good standing for two years to avoid a bad ESN. Pay your bills, and your ETF if you finish early, and the device is clear as far as I understand. There are VZW guys in the MP who swap devices almost every week and never seem to have any problems :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jakob95:
I noticed that according to various sources the Incredible 4G only has a VGA camera/0.3 megapixel front facing camera. Why did they do that the Inc 2 has a 1.3MP front facing camera, why would they just downgrade...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Don't take it up to face value. Megapixels don't determine everything about a camera. Just wait till we see the phone's images. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Card83:
I like the Droid 4 because I love having a physical keyboard. But the PenTile screen just makes my eyes sad.

I like the Droid Razr Maxx because I would love to have a full day of heavy use on the phone without needing to find an outlet. But I keep hearing people say that the battery life just isn't quite as good as advertised.

I like the Galaxy Note, because more screen real estate is always nice to have. But I'm afraid it's just a bit TOO big to be comfortable to use as a day-to-day phone.

I like the Galaxy S3 because it's pure cell phone bliss. But it's not out yet.

So, in other words...I'll stick with my DInc2 at least until the next generation of phones comes out. The level of advancement is so rapid in this field, that it's easy to burn through money to always have "the next big thing". If I'm satisfied with what I have, I just enjoy it as long I can.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shredder47:
As of today, I'm upgrade eligible....

Coming from a Fascinate to a Inc2, I've lucked into getting two phones with good devs, and good hackability.

Right now, I'm eyeing a galaxy nexus pretty hard. Its guaranteed unlockable, rootable, good dev community, etc. Plus, I love the phone itself.

The Rezound is good, but at this point, I'd probably just rather wait for the Inc4G. However with the Inc4G there's no guarantee of getting it unlockable, which causes me some worry.

The GS3 is the same way. I loved my GS (Fascinate) to death, but I'm just worried Verizon will put her on lockdown.

I don't know what to do :(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Dkesler76:
I think i would get the inc4G since its not a beast phone. but have the same specs in smaller package.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kiint:
Seriously Considering....

the Samsung Galaxy Note....drool
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] incrediblealex:
Nokia lumia 900. Love the look of it in black
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Pete02:
I'm looking at the Inc4g myself but downgrading the camera?! That doesn't sound too good and the possible unlockability of it would suck even more. However hearing that Andybones will be dev'n it is a bonus for sure! :-D

I'll most likely wait and see what happens in a few more months because right now I'm running cm9 vivow unofficial with aeroevan's latest kernel and my phones running faster than it ever has!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
What do you mean by "downgrading the camera"?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Pete02:
Sorry about that, poor wording on my part. :o From what I understand the camera is not going to be equipped with the new HTC imagesense that their using in their 'one' series phones. So its not that its been 'downgraded' by any means whatsoever. It actually has the same megapixels and all, its just lacking the software I guess. Apologies for any confusion.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ryryrocco:
If it is just lacking the software it should be able to be updated. Maybe they will include it before or shortly after release.

Is there any word on if/when verizon is doing away with the unlimited data plans once you upgrade. I am due for an upgrade in july. I would probably get the htc inc3-4g-lte.

I have gotten all my android phones for free-nearly free so far

Signed proud owner of

2 droid eris phones (kids use as wifi only mp3 players) running gsb final version

1 droid incredible (my wifi only mp3 player) running jermaine's stock plus

1 droid inc2 (my current phone which is really a great one for me right now - no 4g in my area yet) running andybones stock with all the mods. So smooth.

htc for lyphe
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Bohnsta:
HTC Dream for nostalgia's sake.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Pete02:
I spoke with a Verizon rep a couple of days ago and she told me that right now the nix on the grandfather issue is just a rumor at this point. She said that they will eventually implement it but will notify all customers by mail first and supply a date at which this will take place. She also told me that the Inc4G will be out VERY soon! :D

On a side note she also told me about something called agreement swapping. I have three phones on my account (family share) and one of them is overdue for a renewal so I can use that renewal for my line (to get the Inc4G) and my renewal date will get pushed to the other phone line. Should come in handy since I'd like to get that phone before they do kill the grandfathered plans.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Verizon has released a letter to news outlets stating how the unlimited data service will work. I've posted their response probably 4 times now yet everyone seems to keep hypothesizing their own theories about it. I'll post it yet again though:

The unlimited data plan IS going away. What this means is that when you sign up for a phone or renew a contract you will have to pick a tiered plan. Gone are the days of just signing up for unlimited data. If you are currently on a plan with unlimited data they cannot just switch you over just because they have to honor any current plan you have in place. The ONLY time they can switch you over is A. if you ask or B. if you renew a contract since they can't have you sign a contract for something they don't offer anymore. If you want unlimited data for another few years you can A. buy a phone off contract via eBay or Craigslist or B. upgrade before the rumored shared data plans go into effect in July.

IF these new share plans offer the ability for me to get a MiFi device and not have to pay extra per month for it I'll gladly give up my data provided the price is right. Right now I'm paying $60/month for two phones that barely hit 4GB total so if the current structure of $50/5GB carries over AND I can get a MiFi as part of that shared data than sign me up. Hell, I'd consider selling my iPad in favor of a LTE version since it appears it could go this route.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SR3TLAW:
Thankyou so much for the explanation. Im **** tired of reading article after article all telling me different things
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
yeah the threshold of the tiers is what will be interesting

right now wife and i have unlimited plans each for $60 a month total (less work discounts its more like 47/48)

if there was 5gb shared for 30 a month? idk...still prolly wouldnt take it but it would be nice for the option
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Right now it comes down to what will allow me to maximize the plans the most. I don't want to pay more than I am now, obviously, but I may be willing to go up 5-10 if it's right.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] AJGO23:
Well now that the Galaxy SIII is going to be available for preorder at Verizon on the 6th, I'm probably going to go with that before the data plans change. I'm glad the pricing has become more reasonable with the 16GB version for $199 and 32GB for $249.

http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-galaxy-s-iii-4g-lte-pre-orders-hit-june-6th-for-199-20120604/
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Assuming the phone doesn't get too much bloatware (this is Verizon though), then the GSIII is going to be my next phone for sure (unless Verizon somehow gets the next nexus again). My stance hasn't changed on this.

I'm glad the rooting community exists though because you can root the phone to rid it of all nasty bloatware. XD HEIL ANDROID!!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] baling:
HTC One

I would get the One X by HTC just because i love the new camera options
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sunny_und:
I would like to go with the One X. Sense 4 rocks, and I've never been a huge fan of Samsung ... The ones I've played with all felt as if they were built
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sjpritch25:
To big of a phone for me.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SR3TLAW:
When did phones start having two gigs of ram?

Sent from my Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
I think its new the sgIII has 2 gig ram...but I think that's over kill dude
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
Lol, that's as much ram as my crappy computer...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Ihatepullups:
Hey man, if it's got a ulv processor and good battery life, I have no problem with unnecessarily high end specs lol.

Question: does Samsung have its own terrible form of software? Like HTC has sense and moto has motodeath whoops, I meant motoblur?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Samsung has touchwiz, which has beem refined, but some people still don't like the touchwiz interface anyways.

Don't let Motorola hear you say Motoblur or they'll slaughter a box of kittens. ;)

Sent from my Galaxified ICS phone!!! Don't be hating bro! ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] hoodieNation:
just bit the bullet

and ordered two S3's. One for the wife and one for me. I figure it's the last upgrade we get while keeping our unlimited plans... might as well make it worthwhile :) 4.8 is sooooo ridiculous!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TheAtheistReverend:
I am very curious to know if I bought a 4G capable phone for retail from a third party would I get 4G coverage with the data plan I am on with my DInc2?

The reason I ask is I want to keep my unlimited data plan but don't need or want to upgrade yet. I mean a data plan is a data plan is a data plan, right?

I don't remember seeing anywhere it specified what level of speeds were covered in the contract...

Does anyone know for sure? Have you tried this? Could you try it please, assuming you have access to a 4g phone?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jman42028:
Fromy point of view vzw could definitely get the next nexus. Google just completed its purchase of Motorola ...and big red has been very cozy with the high end moto phones for a while now. It would make sense that the next nexus is a googorola phone on Verizon....but I've been wrong before.

Edit for the question above:

All you need is a 4g phone to get the speeds. It doesn't change anything with your contract if you purchase a phone outright. I used to run a vzw store and a sprint store as well. The last I read about the unlimited plans is that they all will be phased out soon ..but I don't recall a timeframe. Vzw had been great about grandfathering old plans....I dealt with old Alltel plans on a daily basis when I worked there. I was surprised to here they were getting rid of the unlimited plans altogether...I would imagine it will take some time...not like in one day all of them will be gone.

Hopey rambling helped a little...coffee hasn't kicked in all the way yet
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] andybones:
this is how it worked for me when I bought my rezound second hand, and i am now back on inc2.