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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Artimus009:
I'm fine for now...just have to wait and play with it as is. I'm sure just when I get antsy, the devs will come up with something and I'll get my fix.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] phatboypat:
I hope this is the case. You did great things with the Atrix without an unlocked bootloader, but I don't know if I could go back to those days again. :-)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JSLEnterprises:
$550 On a month-to-month non-time-locked plan or just outright, because Rogers is listing that as $574

We Canadians pay, on average 22% more for the same products that are just over the border ... free trade is but an illusion.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] equlizer:
sort of OT but at the htcdev, just scroll to the bottom to "all other supported models" and have the phone plugged in? is that all? Mines Rogers btw :) thx
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kennethpenn:
I have faith in HTC to stick to their promise. We'll be unlocked soon enough. If it takes two months, I'll try my best to cook up a solid P-ROM for AT&T users in the meantime. ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] fuybjeans:
I'm fairly certain $549.00 is outright, with absolutely no commitment. Rogers' is at ~$624.00
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jdhommert:
I'd kill for an answer on this right now. Do bootloaders normally not get unlocked until they are released? Is that common? I'm ready to pull the trigger on the phone, but don't want to be stuck on the stock rom forever....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
Read the verge review. You can disable but not uninstall. I said uninstall.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JSLEnterprises:
hope so for your[americans] sake.

AT&T Facebook: "we're checking on that one and will let you know if we have timing to share!"

translation: "We [the user at the time] don't know, and we wont give you an answer any time soon"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jdhommert:
So if you cant unlock the bootloader, what kind of limitations does that put on us?

Just gives us the ability to change skins, rather than having roms that improve the speed a bunch?

No CM9 I know..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ThisWasATriumph:
Man you don't know how good you have it with the galaxy s flashing whatever the crap you want whenever with a reckless disregard for android life until you have to go through this crap. Maybe i'll stick with it a while longer until this get sorted...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JeepFreak:
What happens if you go to HTCdev and use the Device Identifier from a Roger's One X and then apply the unlock file to an AT&T One X?

Thanks,

Billy
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ZeroRilix:
As PG said, we went through this on the Vivid. I honestly think, cause just look at the timing of the Vivid unlock, that AT&T would like the phone to get past the 30 day return period before authorizing HTC to give us an official unlock. Yes it sux, but from a business point of view it makes sense that they would C.T.O.A. I still haven't unlocked my Vivid, and I am not going to. When I get my One X, I won't unlock it either. It'll get unlocked, it just needs to get past the 30 day return window.

Sent from my HTC Vivid
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cloudraker:
OK, so i fully want the booloader to be unlocked as well, and i do understand that it sucks that AT&T is restricting us. However, allow me to play devils advocate here. Afterall, i think most of us would agree that AT&T is the devil so its easy.

This is technically a new product, even though its available in canada and there is an international version. That being said if they can maximize the number of people using BONE STOCK phones, then it allows them to easily determine what bugs the phone has and the results wont get skewed by folks running any sort of modifications be it full roms or just custom tweaks. This will allow them to address and fix anything like that really really really really quickly.

Now, of course i emphasized really quickly because lets face it, AT&T has never really been in a rush to allow manufacturers to his us with updates in a timely manner.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ck4794:
it's about the benjamins

i'm not an at&t customer, but i'm assuming they charge for mobile hot spot, like sprint does. with root you can get it for free, wifi tether, sometimes the bloatware one, and others. among other things they charge for that can be hacked. they want their money!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dimgl:
Worst case scenario: we get owned and we will never be able to unlock the bootloader.

Chances are because there is a Rogers version that already can be unlocked, it would be fairly easy for HTC to release an official unlocked bootloader for the phone.

Edit: got this from the HTC site. Doesn't look too good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] spyz88:
If this is the case I'm not even opening the One X I'll just return it to AT&T. I guess I'll be sticking with the GNex for a while longer.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kennethpenn:
That's actually a very smart answer right there. Unfortunate, if true. But, that makes a whole lot of sense.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dimgl:
It's better to have an unlock sometime than to never have one at all. I honestly hope this is the case with the HTC One X. I really don't know how long I'm going to be able to use the phone without AOSP goodness on it.

Then again, good AOSP ROMs may come many months after the phone's release.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] spyz88:
That would be fine if they said they WOULD. But getting stuck with the phone after the 30 day period with no guarantee doesn't sound like a good idea. :/

Will this even be rootable or will it be temp root?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
really considering cancelling my pre order through amazon... no way im buying a phone i cant mod.

maybe if we collectively ***** on atts facebook page or to htc we can get a real answer or a solution
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] unleashed12:
sucks for the att users, however this is bad for us rogers users too, phone probably wont see major development push till att users start modding, i mean how many devs do we have with rogers units :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dimgl:
I'm really tempted to hit the cancel button too... But a stock HTC One X is infinitely better than a stock iPhone 4 on iOS 5.1... I'm a little torn here, NGL to you guys.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
Hmm. Not really. 30 days from when? Launch? Unless all devices are purchased only on a single day it's a rolling 30 days. So people that get their phones on the 15th day after its released still would have 15 days to hose it and return it. Someone who buys the phone on the 31st day can hose it and return it for a full month. If they’re trying to cover their asses 30 days from day of launch isn't a lot of coverage.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tozfeekum:
The vivid was released on nov 6th and the bootloader unlock came out on dec 30th. They'll probably do the same here
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
just called htc customer support, from what they told me "we dont have a lot of info about the att one x because it hasnt been released yet, but as i understand it should be unlocked in time"

she couldnt/wouldnt go into more detail then that
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dimgl:
Thanks for the information. This seems pretty promising.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
I have to say this took a little excitement out of getting my hox tomorrow but I guess it will give me chance to mess with the phone for a while and make sure there are no issues with it before I unlock the bootloader and potentially void my warranty. I am going to error on the side of optimism and say that HTC will be true to their word and allow us to unlock the device in a short period of time.

Sent from wherever I am!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kennethpenn:
HTC made a promise that all devices after September of 2011 would be unlockable. I really respect them as a company (unlike other companies :rolleyes:) and I absolutely believe they'll unlock the One XL bootloader on AT&T.

If AT&T was making promises, I'd be more skeptical, because their track record is terrible. But, HTC is the one that made the promise here. I trust them a lot more than AT&T.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
yeah guess id have to go with the speculation that itll be out after a month or 2.

hopefully we have devs that are willing to wait.

if they dont ill have to commit the rest of my life to destroying htc =)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dimgl:
The One X is a powerhouse. I'm fairly certain, unless a mindblowing phone comes out and sweeps them off their feet, we'll have some devs ready once the phone has been unlocked.

I've also looked into becoming a dev as I have some programming knowledge but I'd need a partner to teach me the ropes.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] spyz88:
So will it be root able? If so just temp or perm root?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
from what i understand, with locked bootloaders

you can still root

but you cant run install clockword mod (meaning no flashing roms)

if im wrong, feel free to correct me
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JeepFreak:
Anybody try this???

Billy
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] neer2005:
Still rocking my atrix until Monday, loved your P-Roms! Especially alien ROM! Can't wait to see the goodness you cook for the HOX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
Sense 4.0 is pretty nice from my experience in the store. :confused:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] filthyfnj24:
I have faith in KP, I was so stoked to see he's our senior mod. Unfortunately it looks like I'll be keeping my Atrix to satisfy all my Rom flashing urges until we get an unlock :(. Makes the wait til Monday slightly less painful.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vukadmos:
I really hope HTC keeps their promise.

I bought a Note and am thinking about selling it and jump to the HOX. I really miss my Inspire where I would flash new/updated roms basically every week!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] voluptuary:
I just made an account under the name "Robert Dole" and spammed "Why is the bootloader on the One X locked? When will you let HTC unlock it?" n everything I could. I think we should get as many people as we can to do something like this.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kennethpenn:
With a locked bootloader, we'll be unable to flash custom kernels or radios. As long as we have root, we should be able to flash custom pseudo-ROMs (ones without custom kernels, etc).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pumpiron579:
+10, me too
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pirateghost:
Someone will need to find a way to root the OS and bypass the typical HTC NAND lock.....on many HTC devices, without unlocking the bootloader (either by htcdev or s-off) root WILL NOT stick and you will be unrooted the next time you boot....

welcome to HTC, where they prefer no lube
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kennethpenn:
Yikes. I'm still betting we'll have an unlock sometime soon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pirateghost:
just take a look at what happened when the HTC G2 on TMo came out....it took some time but some crafty folks cracked that one.

the vivid was the same way. you could get root, kind of, but you would lose it randomly, and for sure would lose it after reboot. unlocking the bootloader was the only thing that let us retain root.

unless we get an influx of help with it, i dont see a whole lot happening until we get official unlock....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kennethpenn:
Yeah I'm a complete noob when it comes to HTC stuff. But, all of that makes perfect sense. I'm hoping that HTC will either release an unlock on the 6th or within a reasonable time period.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pirateghost:
i have no doubt that we will get unlock at some point. the main issue is WHEN, and if it is too far away, we may lose some dev activity over here. i would hate to see this phone die prematurely.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
exactly what i was thinking, then again the galaxy s 3 specs aren't all that impressive(us version, plus it wont be released for some time), so at least there isnt a great alternative at the moment.

im kind of torn at the moment, could cancel my order and wait and see how things pan out. but im tired of having an infuse
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
If you are referring to the review on The Verge about the wifi thing, that's totally blown out of proportion. Att has been putting that known wifi network on their phones for a while. All it does is automatically connect to a att wifi hotspot if you have wifi on, are not connected to anything, and stroll into range of one of the hot spots. If you turn off wifi when not using it you would never notice this. If you were going into one of those places to do business you would call this a feature. That part of the review is poorly worded, and is like complaining about the wallpaper on the phone, its a non-issue.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jdhommert:
I think the worst part about this is that even if we do get the unlocked bootloader, the phone will show that it is hacked, and we'll lose our warranty if we root/unlock it.:mad::mad:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Squeak22:
Not if you root, only if you load a custom rom. This is the same for every device, from every manufacturer.

If you send it back, just reload the standard rom on it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] x3phyr:
Unless the person who sent back their phone for the yellow screen still had a custon ROM on it, then that's not the case. Evidently they were able to tell that he had unlocked and put other software on it. Referred to as 'illegal' by HTC, therefore voiding his warranty. I have to think there's a flash counter in there somewhere or something that will let them know that somethings been changed etc etc. I've got insurance on my phone, so yeah. $150 deductible, but it's better than not having a phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dimgl:
This is what I'm most afraid of. I would love to get an unlock for the phone, but what will happen once the devs get tired of waiting? We will have no ROMs to flash and the root will go to waste.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] belyle:
I agree with the attwifi non-issue. I think it's a good thing. There are so many places with free attwifi (starbucks, many barnes & noble stores, lots of other coffee shops, etc) where I'd prefer to automatically connect than use my data plan. Plus, even if they didn't put it on the list out of the box, the first time you connected to wifi at starbucks it would be there anyway.

I am following this unlock and root saga closely, though. I just flashed my Nexus S back to stock, no root, and have come to realize just how much I use root on a daily basis.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] azndan2:
Htc will definitely lose me as a customer if they don't fix this. They risk becoming irrelevant the way Motorola has.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig@xatik:
I wouldn't blame HTC on this one. This is most likely ATT telling HTC to lock the bootloader.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jshamoon:
and I was just going to place an order today. I am going to hold off until we know for sure it will be unlocked soon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] craig@xatik:
I am pretty sure we'll have the bootloader unlocked. I think the more important question is when
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
Unless you work in NYC. Then it's highly annoying because while you're walking you're connecting to a different wifi every street.

Also, forgot to mention that AT&T has the logo in the notification bar if you have no other notifications. WTF? I don't want to look at that ****.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
It boggles my mind how both of these companies (AT&T & HTC) could be this ridiculously foolish and make a decision like this. I literally cannot fathom how the higher-ups could have had a logical discussion and decide that this was the right move for a flagship device. This is the top of the line Android phone on AT&T...clearly it's going to be sold to enthusiasts, developers, hackers etc who want to have this functionality. Have they not learned from their past mistakes that such a short-sited decision like this will lead to severe backlash from their customers!? This needs to be fixed asap.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Squeak22:
Then turn Wifi off. It's really not that big of a deal. You can use Llama or a host of other free apps to have it automatically turn on and off wifi, etc.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dimgl:
I have one word for you: money. Money is what drives them.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NFLBLitz20002:
Just talked to ATT and HTC

ATT tech support doesnt even know what bootloader is. Talked 4 representatives before they linked me directly to an HTC tech rep to be able speak the same damn language

HTC rep had a Bionic with ICS on it and understood my frustration, documented my name, phone number, and email address and promised to keep me updated with what is happening. He also documented the Error Number (160) and Error Message (MID Error) to talk to his supervisors about. GGHTC-Rep. However, he said HTC is not allowed to talk about the phone till official launch through AT&T. I even tossed in XDA Developers and he said he was raised on this website, told him go look up the HTC One X forum and see the complaints. He said he would look into it and show it to his supervisors also.

Everyone interested please do the same. I think this way it will catch HTC's eye or at least some people who understand what the hell we are talking about. Posting on AT&T facebook page isnt going to do **** in my opinion. If you noticed they are not even acknowledging anyone posting about locked bootloaders on the HTC One X.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
What do you mean by this? Requiring a tethering plan to tether? That's the only thing I could think of.

And if that's the reason they locked it then are much more foolish than I even thought...upsetting your consumer base over a small number of people who will take advantage of this is a joke.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] KitF:
There's the fact that 99.9%(+probably another .09%) of the people who buy this phone won't give a damn about the bootloader. It'll get done eventually, but it's going to sell like hotcakes anyway. They can afford to take their time.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NFLBLitz20002:
What happened to if we keep the geeks happy everyone is happy motto... wait... maybe im dreaming..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] co.ag.2005:
I don't know if AT&T is purposely locking this phone down. Why aren't all the other phones on AT&T locked down? sure, some are (looking at you Moto), but a vast majority of the Android phones from AT&T have the ability to be rooted and flashed with a custom ROM, even the HTC Vivid (Aria, Captivate, SGSII, Inspire, Infuse are a few others that come to mind).

Just give it time. I'm not sticking up for AT&T, but I think HTC has more to do with it than we think. It's easy for them to blame AT&T when in fact, they want to wait X number of days before allowing it to be unlocked.

I could be wrong but just my $0.02...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] KitF:
The Vivid was bootloader locked for a month after it came out from what I've read.

Just be patient. Not having an unlocked bootloader immediately isn't going to kill you.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jshamoon:
Thank you for doing this!!!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vukadmos:
Nicely done!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] belyle:
I cannot understand why people are up in arms about the AT&T residing in the notification bar. It's three ****ing letters that more often than not won't even be there. Any time you have another notification, they won't show up. I don't know about you, but it's rare that I don't have a text, email, app update, facebook notification, words with friends word, draw something notification, amazon app store notification, missed call, voicemail, low memory warning, or one of at least a dozen other notifications in the bar. Any other notification = no AT&T logo. Get over it.

I use tasker to turn off my wifi during the day (the wifi at my work is filtered so I use my phone to browse internets if I need to get around the filter) and to prevent my phone from trying to connect to random wifi hotspots as I drive around. It has the added bonus of keeping an icon in the notification tray so the AT&T logo won't be there.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] KitF:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't get all the AT&T logo hate. My iPhone has an AT&T logo in the exact same place. I'm surprised this isn't the norm in every single Android phone.

Also I work at a college and get amazing speeds at work, so I keep wifi on all the time. It is really annoying to connect to random hotspots on my way to work or having to manually turn on/off wifi just for my commute. I can see where they are coming from about disabling it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nightrainbow:
I had a Rezound with Verizon and had the same situation.

We couldn't unlock the bootloader after a month or so after released.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
THIS!!! It isnt HTCs fault, as the same phone in Europe and Canada can be unlocked. Its AT&Ts request to lock it for their selected amount of time for whatever stupid reason they have.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Pirateghost:
Just change it to AMERICAN CARRIERS.

I have seen the others do. The. Same thing before.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Anyone know if it's possible to unlock the bootloader on T-Mobile's HTC One S? That should give us an indication as to whether AT&T is responsible for this ludicrous decision.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bongd:
That's what the other Motorola Atrix users and myself kept saying. That was a nightmare.

I'm hoping that everyone will put the heat on AT&T for this. Us Rogers users have the ability to unlock bootloaders and Canada's usually a lot less liberal than you guys. There's no reason for AT&T to be doing this at all. Hold them accountable and complain rationally and persistently.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Bigred1991:
AT&T wrote that in response to "when are ALL the accessories going to be available in the US?". It had nothing to do with the bootloader.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mikelebz:
How do we know if it is for a specified time or if it is indefinitely?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
it very well may, i have a flashing addiction and i dont plan on quitting cold turkey :eek:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eallan:
And it's HTC that acquiesced.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NFLBLitz20002:
Any time doing my part! Get my phone in under 3 hours!!! So excited :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bongd:
Think of it from a business perspective - it's indefinite. They're not going to allot resources to worry over this.

What I suggest is that AT&T users revolt and hold them accountable. You have an awesome example to cite (Rogers Canada; they're permitting this and haven't put in a special request to block bootloader unlocking) so push this continually and don't stop. Be relentless and do it until AT&T changes their policy.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mikelebz:
Well, HTCDev isn't the only route...we can go for an unofficial S-off tool.

I'm assuming that as our devices are identical to the Rogers device, and they are unlocked, an unofficial s-off should follow shortly, no?

I'd actually prefer an unoffical method...