yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Bada Software and Hacking General] mijoma:
Sorry, but I'm afraid Rebellos is right. I haven't seen the video or screenshots and I simply don't need to because I've checked what Tizen files are available for public. You cannot build anything he claims he have and this is what makes it not real. Additionally, guy completely misses the point of FOTA (it's not a container for widgets) and AMSS (hardware specific, no public code for AMSS - what did he use to build it?). I don't know what the purpose he is doing it for, but simply don't get overexcited.

You can wait for 21st and see more and more problems and why there won't be a public release. I'll be happy to apologize to anyone if he happens to be a genius - if it's so he can run android or tizen on piece of cardboard as well.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] nbates66:
it's very odd that he can very casually claim that messaging and calls are working, these would require modem, which we have been struggling on for more than a year, perhaps he runs Tizen on top of the bada kernel which might preclude the need for drivers(Tizen is designed to run on Linux most likely I find it doubtful tizen can run on bada kernel), but it's unlikely anyone would manage to code a Linux driver for the S8500's modem without at least shrugging up "some" commotion about it beyond "eta 21st may".
[Bada Software and Hacking General] adi4u4882:
Maybe you people are right. Even i had the same doubts but the developer is so confident that he will produce the screenshots or video. But i had to belive what he said. I pm'd him asking for his current build. So lets see what his reply is :)

Edit:

I contacted him saying i wanted to see his work and he accepted to give me his build. In few hours i will test it and if its legit i will upload it to all the members here.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] DiGiTaT:
Did you get his build now?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] adi4u4882:
The Developer responded. And he uploaded all his files and gave a Tutorial.

Here is the Link to his files: https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=4249B9F6556728F4&id=4249B9F6556728F4!139

And here is the Link to the Official Topic: www.badaforums.net/forums/post57148.html#p57148

Anyone can give it a Try :)
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Soxix:
Ok now it seems to be real. He said that HE ISN'T ABLE TO BOOT PROPERLY into tizen but he has boot loops.

I haven't a Wave I so I can't try it. Does anyone with a Wave I and a lot of courage can flash those files ? If someone try, can he provide us a proof whether it is a fake or not ?

Thanks. It has to be clear the most quickly as possible to avoid wasting time.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] anghelyi:
It's bull****. The "dev" talks about using "our" android kernel to boot Tizen and he is surprised that it bootloops... How on earth does he have sms and call support with a kernel known not to have modem driver? IT'S FAKE!
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Rebellos:
As I suspected, the most recent image he posted is empty. CBA to download the older one.

//just a sidenote: It in fact is possible to get Tizen platform running using our kernel, any linux platform like Ubuntu/Android/Tizen can be run on top of it. But seriously doubt that this "dev" even seen anything more than Badadroid bootlogo, which is compiled into kernel.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] metalrar:
i can´t prove if is real or not, and you?

well, it seems that he has shown some photos from his work with tizen, please someone can verify what he says is true ..

here is his twiter Acc,sorry if i cant post any link cuz i dont, have the required total of post to do that

twitter.com/#!/vicetechno

skidrive link: here are 2 IMG he created

t.co/jRsHxzQr

1st photo to prove that is real

t.co/XwWKncg8

2nd

t.co/7wOQF1m6

3rd

t.co/m8NabRFL

from hes Tweeter:

-After this pictures not fake I need help to make a kernel image to recognize on wave plz I'm starting to stop today and back tomorrow

-Download my files and tested it. Stuck boot is a good sign I hope Anyone to help on kernel image?

-I know that tizen is build on top of linux. So I'm struggling to have linux on wave shrugging on it.

-Not using bada with tizen up! What the hell i've read

-So anyone! Tried it on wave s8500 that it stucked on boot. To see it is true

-It's not fake i'm trying to build a kernel to boot i know that I showed with android kernel i'm trying to figure howto make one

-I can't pass the boot logo but i don't know why. Probably is missing something

all this is from his Tweeter account
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Tizen boot stuck

Hi there,

I'm telling that I'm stuck at the loader.

I think the loader does not like my compiled base system of tizen even in 1.2 bada.

Anyone can help me booting?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] prokshit:
Plz Guide!

Rebellos... as u know there is a way to make this work.

could u kindly plz help him or at least guide him.. to how to get it to boot and the later steps.. So that we could get it to work Too.. thank u
[Bada Software and Hacking General] wirel1:
Anyway it doesn't seems that the Dev is doing this for personal reward other than curiosity, so maybe if you just remain friendly and collaborate (even just to say : "no that's not feasible in any way") maybe something good could come out of this.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] nbates66:
well unfortunately we probably can't help as far as platform booting goes, Rebellos has mainly worked on Linux kernel, not android platform- we tended to rely on platform files built for Galaxy i9000 but now mike is working on that part.

i'm unfamiliar with the Tizen boot process, can you link to information regarding Tizen?

also something else: if you are infact using Rebellos's and/or oleg's Linux kernel then make it clear you are doing so, also suggest REMOVING your belief that calls or messaging are working if you are using any of our droid kernels, because unfortunately nobody has managed to build a functional Linux driver for the S8500's modem yet.(if such things appear to work in any emulator or any kind - the S8500 and S8530 are not that emulator)

in addition, which kernels have you tried? 3.0 kernel is on Rebellos's github:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1459391
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Soxix:
I totally agree with you. Lying is bad :mad:. If he has enough knowledge in kernel coding he could join Rebellos. But I don't believe in it.

It could be nice to know what he did exactly, but actually it seems to be a quite few.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Kernel

Rebello's Kernel

What I've done with the sources of tizen

I've created a tree fakeroot armel - samsung repos of tizen

after that i've created api and packages built with make ,./configure built all the source tree armel not i386 as it can be done with sbs -A i386

sbs -c to create.

sbs -e apt-get install packages

even

sbs -e dpkg-buildpackages to get an image from the sources tizen compiled

I tried it this but it crashes

sbs --makeimage nameofthefile --board tizen /generic/slp

even this

sudo mkfs.ext4 ext2system.img and createed the loopback to do that

after successful tree of the sources I've mounted the loopback

with this command

sudo mount -o loop -t ext4 imagefile /media/

and copied into it

sudo umount /media/ to get the image installed

to get work because

the command sbs --makeimage filename --board slp crashed on the final procedure.

Tell me where I'm wrong?

I work in ubuntu and unix minix posix since my 16 years old.

I've compiled a 2xxx kernel to work for me in debian and even slackware.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Tizen 1.0

Hi there again

Everyone can try this on a 32 bit cpu does not matter if it is a laptop or a desktop

This command from scratchbox2

sbs --makeimage example.img --board slp or --board generic

Because yesterday it crashed last night in a desktop with a pentium 4 at 1Ghz

I think it is to create a factoryfs system if I undestand it

Please correect me if I'm wrong
[Bada Software and Hacking General] adfree:
I am an Linux idiot... :o

But maybe... about *.IMG ...

bada SDK uses "Live Image" with write access...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1248417

Here someone wrote about sgs2toext4.jar etc...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14910801&postcount=1

Best Regards
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Thanks for the tip about *.img
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Rebellos:
Tizen is developed on 2.6~~ kernel, so can't say if it will work with our 3.0.8. But in theory it should.

You want to take a look at init.rc and init.wave.rc. These are first userspace scripts specific for Android - and you should modify these to load Tizen core platform binaries instead of Android zygote and so on.

You perhaps can leave adb, init and ueventd binaries if you don't have some from Tizen - these are built from Android sources, but in general these work quite the same as for other linux platforms.

Also you can add shell, busybox and some necessary libraries to your initramfs - it will increase zImage size but no worries if it remains under ~20mb. If you add core linux binaries there and comment out "remount root / ro" from init.rc you should be able to access shell through ADB even with no platform loaded.

However, if you want to use HEAD revision from 3.0.8 kernel you must compile also head FOTA.

//edit:

And, as nbates66 already stated - please remove info about calls/messaging, because this is taken from outer space.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Thanks.

I'll remove the calls and so on.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] metalrar:
So there is no call or messages stuff mmm this is a big mess to all this work

Usando badaBoard PRO Hacked by metalar! en español
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Rebellos,

Tomorrow I'l try to compile a kernel to boot.

A 2.6 kernel using this commands:

make mrproper

make O=/home/user/kernel

sudo make

or

sudo make install

But the only thing I'll face is to use the kernel 2.6 compiling on a 3.0 kernel booted
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Rebellos:
There's README how to compile our latest kernel for S8500.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] nbates66:
More things to consider, tizen will likely use a very different filesystem layout structure compared to Android, you need to find out the mountpoints required and modify the appropriate init files in our initramfs, remember Android systems generally mount their system partitions from settings in initramfs rather than from a fstab file in /etc like standard Linux that you are used to does, find out what layout tizen uses.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] DiGiTaT:
Twitter:

Let's see what's coming...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Hi there!

AS I said at my twitter.

I got an unstable kernel tizen and working.

The issue I today were when I turned off and went to tizen it gave me a screenshot of the homescreen bada 1.2

Yesterday night I went into the 1st time configuration with my tizen kernel but unstable too.

I'll show and upload the kernel to all see what I'm saying.

The unstability yesterday was the lcd is not giving me the right stability even show all the screen.

Today night after an experimental |I'll do today. I'll upload it into my skydrive in a new folder called kernel unstable.

I hope to give this night if I do not give this today, I'll upload it tomorrow very soon.

See you soon. I hope to see You al lat the twitter.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Rebellos:
As you said on your twitter - "Odin package" - what the **** man...?

And btw - you don't need Sbl for our HEAD kernel and FOTA commits.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] adi4u4882:
What he meant is that he is trying to create files for flashing using Multiloader.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Rebellos:
No chance of making any other file than FOTA (not mentioning modified bada system which we're able to produce, but it's rather unrelated to this project).

Just wondering how the author is able to make movie of some linux console showing actually nothing except he isn't able to google for solution for some common bug in linux. Movie with Wave booting Tizen would be much more useful, don't you think?

Info about working calls isn't still removed from project post, so I still consider this project as pretty closer to be fake than real.

And seriously, the only 3.0 kernel stability issue we found for now is that it does hang when entering deep-sleep mode. Not mentioning that, it's stable as hell. And I don't really recommend using 2.6.35 as it's dropped and never proved to be booting, while 2.6.32 latest sources seems to be lost.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] m90ultimate:
tizen on wave is just a noob publicity stunt to increase followers on twitter and become populer by just fooling around with some primary knowledge.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] adi4u4882:
Who do you think you are, trolling around this thread. Noob publicity is just what your expecting now acting like a badass. He states that he is trying he did not say he completed the port and asks for donation. Do you anything about constructive critizism to developers? Go read that first before spamming this thread.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
I'm trying to get a dual boot system.

I've noticed it is hard to do a multiloader files.

Thanks for telling that. I'm trying.

It is not yet completed.

I'm trying to do this is to get more knowledge. Not getting money for that.

Tizen is from linux foundation so I will not get and asking for some money.

I'm trying to do my best even I have the tizen stuff compiled but I'm getting closer. I hope to give a dual boot soon.

So, don't be like that everyone.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] mijoma:
Honestly, I've never met a single developer using such empty phrases. I will help you if you EXACTLY (in technical language) say what you are trying to do apart from compilation. As so far your exaggerated claims have destroyed your credibility. To help you out with that issue let me ask a few questions that will shed some light on your capabilities:

1. What is your C/C++ coding experience? How long have you been developing applications? Is it your profession?

2. Do you understand and write in assembly language (x86 and ARM)?

3. Do you understand digital electronics? What is your experience working with microcontrollers, external memory chips, I/O, etc.?

4. Do you understand S8500 booting process (bada and Android)?

5. Can describe components initialization sequence for Tizen environment?

6. Have you booted Tizen (not just a linux kernel but a whole environment) on S8500? Is there any proof of that (i.e. a log)?

7. How do you know the kernel is unstable? What exactly is malfunctioning? Are there any logs? If there aren't any then how do you know what is wrong?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] m90ultimate:
do you know what a developer means..?

agreed that he said that he is trying but he should not have published in his post that call, message, bla...bla...bla...is working even though in reality he never even bootted a working kernal ..its like jumping frog in.the well..!!
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
To your questions:

I know c/c++. I'm student but I'm usually do some professional software.

I understand Assembly for Microchip because I've learned at school. I'm learning it for x86, ARM.

I understand digital electronics but I'm trying to understand s8500 I/O even the booting process.

5,6,7:

I've booted a linux kernel from tizen and I'm learning the booting process from tizen.

I don't have logs to show because I haven't done it yet.

I give you the answers because you've asked. Off course.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] mijoma:
OK. That's a good start.

As you said by yourself - it's just a linux kernel. It still has little to do with Tizen. You need to edit the init scripts to mount the filesystem images you've created and start the environment. I haven't browsed through the Tizen documentation but there should be description of the environment booting somewhere.

In short, the way the android booting works now is that

- after powerup the iROM (internal microprocessor ROM) code is executed

- it checks signatures and starts NAND bootloader (stage1 -> stage2 -> stage3)

Stage3 bootloader is the part that manages download mode, starts Qualcomm modem chip (loads QC bootloaders and amss), performs security checks on bada and boots into bada OS. During that pretty secure process there is a hole that led us to running our own bootloader (or rather a bootloader stub as it's not really full - it's using some of original bootloader that is already in memory) through FOTA. The FOTA bootloader simply reads the zImage from the filesystem to DRAM (at 0x32000000) and jumps there.

As you may know, zImage automatically decompresses and starts the kernel that manages all the memory, starts drivers and initializes the root filesystem, starts init scripts.

You'll probably need to change the last step only for Tizen but you need to know what you're doing. You don't need any Multiloader or Odin packages for now.

So, where exactly are you - what are you trying to achieve now?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Thanks for helping me and telling me that.

I'll try it today at the evening and I'll reply it.

Now I'm trying to achieve the dual boot.

Odin and Multiloader is different now and very different. It's another problem to achieve.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] nbates66:
I don't get it, the dual boot capability is already available, if you're intending to try both tizen and bada from NAND however it's likely not worth the effort as bada tends to die if it's nand is modified, in addition running a Linux OS from badas not-quite FAT partitions is hardly ideal
[Bada Software and Hacking General] mijoma:
Oh, come on! What are you talking about?

That is rubbish and brings completely no informational value!

I don't want to know what you are trying to achieve but HOW. It's getting too obvious that you have no clue what Odin or Multiloader is. Please describe what you are doing or stop deceiving people.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Hello again.

I've compiled 3 files from tizen compatible with arv7l(arm). And those 3 files togther have about 1 gb.

Are in image file extension.

I'll post a link to show them through mediafire right next to this post.

I would like to flash them to our s8500 cellphone.

lthor flasher does not recognize our cellphone as you can see in my twiiter( twitter.com/vicetechno)

THank you so much.

There is any help?

---------- Post added at 03:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:00 PM ----------

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?umunj5czmyalr39

Everyone sees what is happening with this images.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] mijoma:
Flashing is not the problem.

Where's the kernel and init?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
I'm facing an issue. Mine buid from tizen is stucked on the badadroid image as the image of the boot of your project.

the kernel i've made changes on it to try to boot tizen.

so, i'm stucked on the boot.

how to resolve that and very quick.

thanx.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] hero355:
just give the kernel to developers to see what is here and what must do
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Thanks. I'll give it.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] wffarrel:
Team

More heads is better than 1, like R&D team do...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] adfree:
https://source.tizen.org/release

Maybe someone can check this...

Btw. it is the new SDK...

Best Regards
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
I'll check it.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] shofiul1994:
Hmmmmm.

I dont knnw whats going on..

I thought this project ended...

So what is it now...

Is it a good news?? Pls tell me.

---------- Post added at 10:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:05 PM ----------

Hmmmmm.

I dont knnw whats going on..

I thought this project ended...

So what is it now...

Is it a good news?? Pls tell me.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
I've turned back to another try.

I've been capable to boot a fota with mine tizen logo.

I've been capable to create a filesystem but the kernel zImage is still stucked on the booting method from the sdcard method.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] shofiul1994:
And i sincerely hope this time it turns around different... Can u make a differnt thread and keep everyone updated, if u started the porting.. Thanks in advance....

Hope this will be better development than bada...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] astronfestmon:
Sure I'll do it and I'll keep it updated.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] mijoma:
so where is it?
[Android General] JustinUhhh:
1 - Only an 8MP camera

Nokia clearly set the industry standard with the 41MP sensor on the pureview. Anything under 30MP is just a joke now.

2 - Screen is simply a 720p Super Amoled instead of a 1080p Super Amoled PLUS

If i take a microscope to this phone i will see less pixels. And that makes me mad.

3 - 1GB of RAM? Seriously?

What is this 2011? I can't run GTA III, Gears of War, MW3, BF3, and Angry Birds Space simultaneously. This must be a faux-smartphone.

4 - It is too much like other successful phones

If it isn't completely different than its predecessors how will my friends know i got the newest model?

5 - Its made of plastic... Ew..

You mean if i drop this phone it WON'T smash into 100 pieces?..

6 - The voice function is too much like siri

You mean we have to use natural language to communicate with our phone now instead of robot talk? My lord what were they thinking.

7 - Exynos Quad Core Processor at 1.4 ghz

The One X already released with a 1.5 quad core processor. Clearly because it has more hertz than we do its better. What a shame.

8 - TouchWiz still looks like TouchWiz

Why would they take one of the best android overlays and make it better? Why would they add these features without completely changing it beyond all recognition? I want to have to re-learn to use my phone.

9 - The front facing camera is only 1.9MP

See reason from point #1

10 - Its ug-ug-ugly

A physical button that is easy to find instead of an awkward software button on the screen? How could they consider this? Is this a cruel joke?

In conclusion Samsung is now a laughing stock of the mobile world. This phone will not sell at all. Joke is on them! After this terrible product they will simply never be able to recover.
[Android General] jcpwn2004:
I get what you're trying to say, but no matter what you say the sgs3 is a let down. Same as the 4s. It's a galaxy nexus with a 8mp camera, definitely nothing hype worthy or phone of the year worthy (like the sgs2)
[Android General] jordanishere:
As an sgs2 owner, i am upset by how ugly the sgs3 is.

What if i want a black one?
[Android General] rafa6571:
I can ignore all but this is most horrible smartphone i've ever seen... Samsung u screw up this one.
[Android General] SRQ642:
I had used softkeys on my S2 (AOKP rom) and I have to say that it was much better, than using hardware buttons. I really don't understand why they are forcing hardkeys.

Pentile layout is not a bad thing because of "If i take a microscope to this phone i will see less pixels", but it has no proper white opposed to S2's real white-white of its S-AMOLED-Plus screen:D
[Android General] chrisrotolo:
agreed. 1 GB RAm should have been 1.5 or 2. Touchwiz still looks like Gingerbread, 1.9 MP ffc, round up to 2 more like 3 or go to an envelope pushing 5MP, we're all getting tired of grainy video chats anyways. In going with the "Nature theme" I would have liked to at least see a solar charging "option".

Im not buying anything under 5 inches anyway.
[Android General] Bulletblitz27:
The post was entirely sarcastic... at least I would hope
[Android General] chrisrotolo:
2100mAh should have been 3000 minimum at least.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SPtheALIEN:
https://opensource.samsung.com/rece...mobile_phone&classification2=&classification3

I can haz new ROM with working camera now?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sonic Offline:
Score.

I hope it doesn't take too long for a camera-friendly ROM to surface :3