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[Galaxy S III General] soraxd:
Re: Official Sound Quality thread

good sound quality, but low volume? lol.

honestly I don't think you guys will accomplish much comparing profiles to profiles.. I bet mine isn't gonna be anything like you guy's.. my profile is set for a car stereo with dedicated subs for bass, tweeters for vocals, and speakers for mid range/mix. I personally like the effect of 'Echo', which I'm yet to see anyone speak on. and the profile I use is really just for hiphop/r&b. I use STweaksProfiles app to switch between different profiles I setup for different types of music.

that's my suggestion to anyone looking to find their own 'wow' effect.

as for music app, I use poweramp on flat. i use poweramp simply because I like the ability to delete music while listening to it, and that it can download album art. its by far much uglier than the stock sgs3 music app, and its beautiful colorful interface.

another thing I want to say is don't confuse how loud you can make your headphones, with sound quality.. I was so happy when I saw stweaks could crank up that audio to 63, but using a much more powerful source (car audio system), I've lowered my audio level to 52, and use a negative gain of 3.
[Galaxy S III General] dlwnew:
Only skimmed through this thread as there is so many pages so not certain if this has been covered. I have found that a £1.87 (ebay) usb 2.0 sound card works on the s3 and sound quality is much better than the headphone out.
[Galaxy S III General] lpy:
Those things are nasty with DC voltage on the output. I wouldn't wanna risk connecting any decent phones to one of those things.
[Galaxy S III General] lastnikita:
Hi there, how do I check if apt-x is currently in use ?

Can't hear any difference atm and I don't have very good ears, but I'd like to know.

Also, does the sound quality via bluetooth depends on the DAC of the phone, or does it only relies on the BT emitter/receiver quality ?

Thanks guys.
[Galaxy S III General] slipudatung:
Re: Official Sound Quality thread

Receiver - apart from any eq tweaks in the music app itself.
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
Re: Official Sound Quality thread

After using Neutron for two months, I recommend Gonemad music player: Same SQ than Neutron (with better gapless) and much better UI.

I9300XXEMA2, Boeffla 2.7b8, Earsonics SM3
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
Will test this afternoon, thanks for the recommendation.

XXEMA2, Perseus 32.1 using Neutron for quite some time and loving it.
[Galaxy S III General] slipudatung:
Re: Official Sound Quality thread

Ganemad is much nicer to use but lack of 64bit rendering is a deal breaker for my ears.

I also enjoy being able to see my live wallpaper - I use projectM which behaves like the milkdrop visualization in winamp etc.

Personal preferences of course ;)
[Galaxy S III General] kabangeka:
my opinion stock music player is not so loud, with poor custom equalizer setup, and I miss Music Clarity Effect in Galaxy S phone, such a good effect. I am using Poweramp but it's using little bit more cpu that stock player, good EQ which is working you can hear it.
[Galaxy S III General] lastnikita:
Thanks, so the phone almost doesn't matter if you're using A2DP.

Anyone know how to check if apt-x is actually used ?
[Galaxy S III General] chauzu:
The only way i could test it, was checking sound quality... using sg3 to stream to my hs3000 is a lot better than streaming from my bt3 enabled notebook . A lot.
[Galaxy S III General] BaronInkjet:
Not even close for me.
[Galaxy S III General] chauzu:
Re: Official Sound Quality thread

Hi, I'm trying to use fiio e07k as external DAC, without luck. I tried with xella ROM, boeffla and siyha kernels.

No sound, it's like the player is sending the song to a pendrive. Every song skips after like 10 seconds. I tried with stock player, neutron and Google player.

I'm wondering if I had to configure something else...or maybe the otg cable is defective, but I use it to read a pendrive without any issue.

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] lastnikita:
That's my problem, can't tell the difference using the exact same setup.

I'll have to test again using different songs maybe.. Thanks anyway !
[Galaxy S III General] TYA.:
I use Neutron for over 1 year.

During that time, tried also vlc and walkman app.

Some times feel seems they can beat Neutron , but finally is not.

I use ext DAC ibasso D zero to drive a pairs of ShureSE535.

Other HW and firmware are:

Note 2 (N7100 version)

Redpill kernel with stweak support

Neutron 1.68.2 (DTS and DVD audio capatible)

DVD audio tracks direct copy (.AOB)

All tweaks inside the Kernel (via Stweak) are Not effect when feed ext dac (digital way) but all sound settings of Neutron does.

(All avaible via analog way)

Will try app you comment.

Edition : After trial some tracks , I realize it can't play Hdtracks in many format.

This will keep me to stay with Neutron longer time .

About sound: Good. In compare to Neutron the sound (of this ) is fair clear but less

thickness • (GMMP thin sound , Neutron thicker sound)

I can give a cm, other than Neutron : VLC player

It is most clean and clear with Much detail of Sound, can play hd tracks

but worse thing of it is less file type than Neutron
[Galaxy S III General] TYA.:
You need a track at hi resolution to Confirm Oversampling works!

Ex: True 24 bit / 96000HZ WAV file (or above)

Nothing happen with a typical 16bit /44100HZ

FLL tune is not make any sound change but how hw works, may be Wake locks...

Direct dac works actually always with any sound sample.

It make sound clearer and abit further stage.
[Galaxy S III General] qrne:
AW: Official Sound Quality thread

Are u using ac!d sound mod? Works great, still with standard...

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
Head Phones Output volume is now noticeably louder on XXUFMB3 firmware basing 4.2.1. I checked the default_gain file that mentions it is 50. May be it was the same with the leaked 4.1.2 XXELKC but this sounds louder.
[Galaxy S III General] Saberlarry:
can anyone give me some headphone's audio quality comparisons between the s3 and iDevices? Well I know that the default music player is kinda a disgrace, the audio quality sounds awful although my files are all~400kbps m4a. So I decided to use the poweramp and it really improves the sound quality. But today after a long time only listening to music through the speaker of my ipad 2, I needed some private space so I plugged my earphones in and I have to say that the audio quality surprised me. It sounds clearer and I can hear some of the minor sounds that I am not able to when I'm on s3. So any opinion guys?
[Galaxy S III General] TYA.:
Re: Official Sound Quality thread

Why did you choose poweramp for music?

Poweramp is the reason for your ipad be winner!

Try again with VLC, use a bitrate of > 1000 kbps.

(VLc has IOS and Android version).

Poweramp Makes Sound to be Thinner . Neutron brings very thick sound .

S3/Note2 (HW) + Boeffla/Stweak(FW) + Neutron(SW)→ iBasso D0 (digital) → SE535/AH D2000 = BIG audio upgrade!
[Galaxy S III General] BaronInkjet:
Dumb question, but your S3 is I9300, right? Others have different hardware (Qualcomm) with higher noise/dynamic range.

See the GSMarena tests as a starting point. Big difference is ipads are louder out of box than i9300.

My experience with I9300 (+ RE0s) has been amazing, just the opposite. Hearing things in music I have owned for 20 years that I never heard before. Lots of things. But I have not listened to ipad.
[Galaxy S III General] _ray_:
Dude !! I tried as you suggested and the sound quality is MILES better on VLC than power amp or neutron. I can never thank you enough.

You Sir are a HERO.. Kudos: good:
[Galaxy S III General] coolkakucool:
hi everyone,i bought a new s3 i9300 this week.Flashed to latest Crdroid custom rom 4.1.2 and applied megabeats mod.I am noticing hisss on vocals of every song(seems like voice is cracking).Can sumbody help me with the problem???....its too annoying.I am using latest siyah kernal
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
If you are using a voodoo / boeffla tweaked kernel I'd stay away from audio mods and instead tweak the kernel parameters to get the sound you want. Try some of the equalizer presets (Pleasant and Eargasm) with no mods installed.
[Galaxy S III General] coolkakucool:
i dont know about voodoo/boeffla .i m newbie.plz guide which kernel should i use for best sound and graphics and which mods to use.plz help?

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moreover i m noticing an 3 second hiss from speaker after stopping the song playback.is it hardware issue?.should i replace my handset?
[Galaxy S III General] tomertb:
I have this problem too i never find solution..
[Galaxy S III General] kevinarjun:
try boeffla kernel..it has the best sound..
[Galaxy S III General] BaronInkjet:
All I did was mod the default_gain.conf to turn up headphone output. Clean, loud, no hiss. (And easy.)
[Galaxy S III General] coffeelovy:
Can you share your default_gain.conf setting to remove hiss.

Many thanks if you explain it here... :)
[Galaxy S III General] elbildozer:
thanksssssssssssssssssssssssss

thanksssssssssssssssssssssssss
[Galaxy S III General] BaronInkjet:
See this:

http://smartphones.wonderhowto.com/...me-limits-your-samsung-galaxy-note-2-0144571/

There is a thread in the S3 forums here about it also, but I don't recall where.
[Galaxy S III General] erto90:
i think he refer to this is someway

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1722136
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
It does not remove hiss and is only a volume level setting .

Hiss is usually from sound modifications .

Boff kernel has built in default gain sound levels .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] Erahgon:
Been one year since this was started!

Sent from the present, which is now in the past.
[Galaxy S III General] BaronInkjet:
FYI -- voodoosound coming finally?

https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/334322708357730305
[Galaxy S III General] Galactus:
Ha
[Galaxy S III General] BaronInkjet:
Yep, not holding my breath either. :)
[Galaxy S III General] rlorange:
Wouldn't support it on principle
[Galaxy S III General] YRAJ23:
External Speaker not working

I installed new kernel, and have no sound from S3 back speakers(next to camera). Then I reverted all back to stock rom and kernel, but still no sound.

If I place my phone near to my ear - seems sound us still working but with tiny volume. In headphones - sound working fine and front speaker working well when i answer calls.

I already did full wipe, format and stock again but with no effect. I'm very sure my phone is not in silent mode, all volumes are opened to maximum. I searched at other threads but no solution was reported.

Anyone had encountered this situation before and can anyone help me please??
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Sheet crystal ball failed again .

Sorry but you will have to tell us what Kernel .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] YRAJ23:
I'm on XXUFME3 4.2.2 leak. Using Glamour S4 custom ROM. Any idea?? I dont think so its a hardware problem as well. Yesterday i tried flashing back other ROM with the hope sound will be back. The sound was back after some time and lost again after a while.
[Galaxy S III General] Orel1996:
Hello,

So I recieved an international Galaxy S3 (i9300), and the sound quality is.. not so good, at least with my PX200-II, compared to my iPod Touch 2nd gen. Even with Neutron Player.

Now, as far as I know you can improve the sound quality with different kernels, ROMs and mods. I'd be happy to get recommendations as to how I can improve the sound quality and what I should do.

Thanks in advance ￼

Edit: By the way, I'm on everything stock 4.1.2
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
Try Boeffla kernel, best S3 sound quality

I9300XXEMD3, Boeffla 2.13b3, Earsonics SM3v2
[Galaxy S III General] JellyTooth:
i think there is much more sound mods for galaxy s3 sounds better than voodoo sound on galaxy s already , and i think thats why supercurio isn't releasing his S3 voodoo port ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Danny044:
Maybe this will help

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1945535&highlight=mod
[Galaxy S III General] Orel1996:
Thanks a lot for the replies! :) I will try those. By the way, I'm not looking for big bass boost or anything, will the mod posted above me still be relevant?
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
How well informed you are not
[Galaxy S III General] ledbrv:
Here is my current setup (very pleased with that!):

ROM: Omega v43.6.1 - XXEMF1 (will try 43.7 soon). Very stable.

Kernel: Boeffla-Kernel-3.0-beta3 (will try beta4 soon). No problems so far.

Sound configuration utililty: Boeffla-Config (Boeffla-Kernel-3.0-beta3 requires this utility)

Sound config: Equalizer: off, Saturation prevention: off, Equalizer profile: none, DAC direct: on, DAC oversampling: on, FLL tuning: on, Stereo expansion: 0

This is what I use on my I9300, but I also have a FiiO E06 portable AMP and a HD 439 Sennheiser headphone.

E06+HD 439 made a BIG difference on sound quality.

I`ve listened Abbey Road (Beatles), Dark Side of the Moon and Wish you were here (both Pink Floyd) a billion times before, but with this setup I can hear details in almost every track that I`ve never heard before.
[Galaxy S III General] highwar:
about the hissing and cracking when you stop the music and even in earphones it still does that hiss and cracking sound

any fix ?
[Galaxy S III General] migz012788:
Is this applicable on aosp roms? I really like aosp roms however the sound quality is poor. When i play music on my s3's speaker and maxed the volume, the music is distorted.
[Galaxy S III General] Erikberglund83:
I think neutron player only plays 16bit audio throu usb on Android 4.1.2 . If not using app called usb audio recorder if I understand right. But I Wonder if I play 24 bit audio in neutron player throu usb to dac on The leak Samsung 4.2.2 on s3. Do that work?
[Galaxy S III General] buddha2012:
Can some others please confirm this ? I am using a Galaxy S1 Voodoo for my music (without external DAC/amp) but i think about upgrading to S3 now.

Does a an s3 with up-to-date Boeffla & STweaks & .... sound as good as an S1 Voodoo straight from the headphone jack ? If no what are the differences ?

Please replies only from people who have/had both the S1 Voodoo and S3 Boeffla.

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
I like natural sound. And yes, I think S3 + Boeffla sounds better than S1 + Voodoo.

I9300XXEMF6, Boeffla 3.0b4, Earsonics SM3v2
[Galaxy S III General] rlorange:
Had both. The S3 ports of voodoo scooby doo and beofella both sound as good as the S1 IMO
[Galaxy S III General] ClausG76:
Hello

Has anyony compared a Galaxy s3 international edt. with a Note 2. Both with siyah like sound kernals. The reason is that on google searches. I find threads with people telling that the note 2 is far supperior in sound quality. But they dont seem to mention, what version of the galaxy s3 is used, and if the phones where using alternative kernals. It should be the same hardware used in both phones though.
[Galaxy S III General] ClausG76:
I guess I just finally found an answer to my own question.

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_galaxy_note_ii-review-830p7.php
[Galaxy S III General] igruberger:
New kind of headphone

Hey guys, did someone see this new kind of headphone?

http://hybratech.com/products/soundband.php#

Never heard about it, but seems interesting...

Only problem is to hear music in loudy places (airplanes, crowded streets, etc.)
[Galaxy S III General] popoyaya:
Is it normal in Neutron Player, Audio Hardware menu to have Bits = 64 (Output 16) and Frequency = 44100? Surely it should be saying 24bit 192kHz? (I'm on Omega Rom + Boeffla). Thanks for reply.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Have you guys noticed a difference in battery drain between playing -q0.35/-q0.45 AAC Nero and VBR V2/V1 LAME MP3 in Poweramp?

Just trying to maintain the same quality but want to use the least amount of battery.
[Galaxy S III General] popoyaya:
Do a benchmark.

Put phone in airplane mode, charge to 100% and play each file in turn on loop play until battery discharged. :)
[Galaxy S III General] Erikberglund83:
If you are on Android 4.1.2 i think you only have 16bit output. Maybe you can have 24bit on a 4.2.2 rom? I dont know.some one know? But i heard it was working on som orher new Android Phones.

Skickat från min GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] popoyaya:
Well that sucks if true and negates the point of hi-def audio and Neutron on my S3. Yes I'm on 4.1.2 as 4.2 doesn't support custom kernels until Samsung release the code. I can't find anything on the web confirming what you said though.
[Galaxy S III General] scott.w.ramsay:
SAN stuania

Just a post in the off-chance that anyone here interested in volume is running CM10.2? I'm trying to get a boost by tweaking the native settings rather than installing an app and I'm only succeeding in killing the sound capability of the phone altogether :D
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
Crossfeed?

I've got a question about the implementation of crossfeed in music players on the S3 19300.

In my opinion, crossfeed is the single biggest underrated / misunderstood / secret in portable music playing.

You can read more about the general and specific principles of it if you Google the words crossfeed or Bauer crossfeed.

After using this option (middle option of the 3 defaults - the equivalent of the Chu Moy configuration) in Neutron music player, I've come to the conclusion I cannot now listen to my music without this option. It makes listening to earphones sound less like an exercise in 3D stunt fireworks and more like I'm listening to stereo speakers, with a natural soundstage. Much less fatiguing and much more enjoyable, if you ask me.

But apart from Rockbox - which is virtually impossible to get to work properly, as far as I can tell - are there any other music player apps for the S3 that properly implement crossfeed?

Are there any dsp plugins that will enable this function? Am keen to explore whatever options I have - not that I'm not happy with Neutron, but I like to know I am doing full justice to my music.

My set up:

Galaxy S3 19300

Rooted, stock 4.1.2 rom

Boeffla kernel

Neutron music player

KEF M200 IEMs

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I cannot post links directly yet, but Google the following and you should get your answer: neutron music player 24bit resampled

To be honest, in my opinion high def audio is a cash con and 16/44 is perfectly fine, given the limits of human hearing.
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Crossfeed PowerAmp has crossfade in the settings if its the same .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
Sure you're not meaning Crossfade? That;s an entirely different thing - just the cross fading of tracks, rather than the channel blending of crossfeed.
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
no i just noticed it said crossfade as i was setting up
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
Yeah, its a bit confusing I agree - nearly all music player apps offer crossfade, but hardly any have crossfeed implemented as an option.

I'd be interested to know what others think of Neutron's crossfeed - it really has revolutionised how I hear my music.
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
I use both Neutron (for crossfeed) and Gonemad MP because I don't like the Neutron UI and Gonemad has better gapless.

I sent a feature request to Gonemad four months ago. He answered that perhaps in a future version because it is hard to implemment.

I9300XXEMF6, Boeffla 3.1, Earsonics SM3v2
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
How do you use Gonemad at the same time as Neutron? Is that possible?

Have you tried Neutron since the recent UI overhaul? Whats not to like now?
[Galaxy S III General] popoyaya:
I can never get the neutronmp.com website or forum to open.

"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /neutronforum.html on this server."
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
Stange. Well here's some of the relevent text from that forum thread :

Question from forum member:

I have some 24-bit 192khz flac recordings and was wondering if the neutron player can handle them properly or I should convert them to something smaller coz they are pretty big and it will be a waste of space to use them if the player can't handle them? Also, with such recordings do you think enabling dither will be an overkill?

Answer from Developer of Neutron:

To my personal view 192 kHz FLAC is overkill for mobile device. Besides only file size and thus waste of space there is also additional overhead due to resampling to 44.1 kHz at which normal Android device operates.

Neutron will handle this format and will resample it in real-time with high quality but do you need waste of battery(CPU)/space?.. If you had these files on PC then you could playback them as-is.

I would resample your FLACs to 44.1 kHz preserving 24-bit depth in this way you will have very good quality of audio record and it will be much more friendly to CPU/internal storage.

In case of Neutron on Android OS enabling Dithering is always recommended because Neutron is rendering audio in 32-bits and output is usually done in less bits (16-bits on Android OS), so enabling it will hedge the risk of quantisation errors.
[Galaxy S III General] popoyaya:
It definitely works and makes for much more pleasant listening, especially with music that has a lot of discreet stereo mixing.
[Galaxy S III General] popoyaya:
Thanks for that.

The fact is I have a number of my favourite albums in HDTracks 24-bit 192kHz quality and would like to enjoy them in their full glory on my S3. I have actually conducted A-B listening tests on these albums to compare the CD releases with the hi-def versions and the hi-def are noticeably smoother, clearer, more dynamic and pleasureable to listen to.

So, I find it hard to believe that Samsung would go to the expense of equipping the S3 with a Wolfson WM1811 sound chip only to cripple its output to CD quality, and there is no way to bypass this limitation. I thought that was the purpose of Boeffla, i.e. to optimize the Wolfson output at the hardware level?
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
Boeffla's a must-have kernel because it does give you more direct control over the DAC, including outputting much more power (i.e. volume), so headphones are driven more easily.

But if you really want to play 24bit HD files through the S3 at their native resoluton, you'll need to do that via USB line out, through an OTG cable into a portable dac & amp.

Personally, I'm more than happy with my 16bit music, so I havent gone down that route.
[Galaxy S III General] GoneMADSoftware:
usb lineout will not give you 24bit playback. The android sdk (along with opensl) is capped at 16bit playback (its also capped at 48khz sample rate), regardless if you have an external dsp or not

edit: unless of course samsung modified android to support the higher qualities. I know LG has done this with their new phone.. but they are providing developers a specific api to leverage the higher quality audio
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
Thanks for the correction - I didnt know that. 48khz sample rate is all you need as a max though - any more than that is arguably pointless.

I maintain that 16/44.1 is perfectly fine for portable audio, given the limits of human hearing, the quality of headphones and the environments most people use them in.

I'd be interested to know what battery life is like on these new gen 24bit audio devices like the LG2 and the forthcoming Note 3.
[Galaxy S III General] popoyaya:
"nobody would ever need more than 640K of computer memory" Bill Gates, 1981

;)
[Galaxy S III General] Bennyboy71:
Disingenuous. The limits of human hearing mean CD quality is really about as good as you need.
[Galaxy S III General] -=MaD DoC=-:
Wrong.

If you google it, you'll find out he never said that. :)

"I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time." Bill Gates, 1997