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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] denenatse:
true all true. If you look at the big picture, iPhone has integrated most media devices to work cohesively, syncing all with that wretched iTunes. Samsung has gone a drop further and integrated Android or Android compatible software into everything they sell: washer/dryer, fridge, camera, windows (the kind you look through), phones, tablets, printers, etc. Samsung wants to be a powerhouse, quite literally. I really do think this step is a well thought out program.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Man, I hate itunes! Worst thing, ever!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Lucidmike:
Apple is doing great business. Brainwash users to believe that cheaper smaller screens is what they want and that they should pay a premium price. And that not having Flash, external memory card slot is something in their best interest. Never mind the fact that people still use flash on their computer browsers on the average a dozen times a day. And if they had a memory card slot, they would probably have a memory card in there. Point out something Apple is doing to rip off their customers, and the customers who are being taken advantage of are on the side of Apple.

How hard can Apple squeeze the teets of their users until they say uncle?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tomtommy306:
Me too! Itunes is a total crapfest!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dakpluto:
Actually I gotta thank apple for not including flash. It really is finally dying to html5 and that is a GREAT thing. I don't think people realize how many flash like elements are not actually flash anymore. HTML5 is all over the place now. Apple and facebook have been the main reason for flash to die

I do find it funny that most of your issues with iPhones are now the "big thing" with newer androids.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Steve.99:
I have read this week that apple sold 35 million phone in Q1 2012 and samsung 41 million in Q1 2012.

Ok samsung has tons of different phone but they still kicking ass right now. And when the S3 come out sale will probably explode... same thing for the next iphone ... lets see how it goes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WhatzinyourphonE:
I think the title should read everything but android and iPhone is dead. Which is true I think
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kr3w1337:
Apple is 1 company, android is a ****load of companies, realistically they should be doing better than one company anyways.

What we need is a good profit graph that shows what platform is actually generating money because that's the one which will be around the longest.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] occupational_hazard:
Maybe you mean iOS versus android. But to compare HTC Samsung, Motorola, lg, etc, I think all those companies combined will outweigh apple in sales dramatically. So how do you really measure apple versus android in sales?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dakpluto:
Percentage of retention would probably be the most accurate mark of who is doing best. How many Droid users stay on Droid and how many switch to iPhone. And same on the other side. Higher retention is really who is winning. I know about a year and a half ago an article I read said at the time apple had a higher rentention than Droid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] chappatti:
I am not a Apple fan. Never like their policies, and monopolistic tendency. I will not buy and iPad or iPhone willingly ! Not because they are not well made, but because they are so completely controlled and policed by Apple.

That said, the implementation of software and user interface, and the overall build quality of Apple is still something to be admired. Also, Apple invented almost all of the features smartphones use today - even simple things like lockscreen, slide-to-unlock, pinch zoom. They have better signal reception than Android phones on the same network (I wonder if they get special treatment?). Siri is now being copied by Samsung (though I do not know why i would talk to my phone?). Everything works so much more tightly on an iphone.

Yes, yes, Android is opensource and companies are using mutiple hadrware options. BUT, why cannot Samsung have the same COMMITMENT to the FINISH of a product that Apple has. You use the software to its best and release as bug free a product as you can.

Well you get the point...... Samsung or any other company (Nokia WAS a big exception) does not have the same obsession with QUALITY that Apple has....

And that can make buyers of technically advanced gadgets wince because they do not function to their full capacity.

My 1/2 cent......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] occupational_hazard:
I always thought Apple copied the creative idea of using the voice recognition for texting and searching from an android phone. The idea of having it reply to you, more or less a flashy and shiny bell. Why not just get to the point?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kr3w1337:
They copied from windows lol, that stuff is ancient

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[HTC One S] ECEXCURSION:
I have AT&T service in the US and was interested in purchasing a US T-Mobile gradient blue One S to use with it. Will there be any issues with 3G/4G? Does the US T-Mobile One S support AT&T's data network fully?
[HTC One S] FRuiTBoOT:
Yes but I believe you will only get Edge Data.
[HTC One S] ECEXCURSION:
EDGE is not 3G though, right?

Anyway, to quote Amazon.com's One S Page:

That would mean it should work on AT&T's 3G network, right? 850/1900Mhz?

Bah, this is all so confusing.
[HTC One S] Kawaisa:
EDGE is not 3G

You won't get 3G/4G speeds on AT&T with this phone.
[HTC One S] FRuiTBoOT:
Yes, what he said ^^ No 3G or 4G
[HTC One S] Harkunwar:
On GSMArena Review their is written that it is at&t friendly as it has 850/1900 MHz Bands
[HTC One S] joshnichols189:
There's more than one version of the One S. The international One S will work on AT&T just fine.
[HTC One S] PopArtist:
Both the box it comes in and the specs on the T-Mo support site says the T-Mo One S supports:

Network

3G/4G Capable

GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900

Band I (UMTS2100), Band II (1900), Band IV(1700/2100), Band V (850)

So I think it would get high speeds on AT&T.
[HTC One S] renehd2:
I got this same question.. so if I buy this phone on US t mobile it will work with at&t 3G..?? If so I will be buying it right now..!! :D
[HTC One S] ekolb123:
Just so you guys know, I bought an One S for use on Wind (Canadian network) and cannot find any site online that can sim unlock it.
[HTC One S] rohanmaini:
Which version of the one S do you have Tmobile or international?
[HTC One S] ekolb123:
US T-Mobile version, which i assume is what you guys are talking about.
[HTC One S] renehd2:
Well according to videos and specs sheets t mobile HTC one s can run 3g/h on at&t ((:

And so, that means I will be getting HTC one s instead of att HTC one x because firstly att unlocked the bootloader and secondly there will be much more development for the htc one s :P because the att HTC one x is different to the international
[HTC One S] mmceorange:
You mean AT&T locked the bootloader...

I'm pretty sure GSM is voice/text/2G only and has not much to do with higher speed data. Somebody had posted a picture of the T-mobile One S box, which lists the bands it operates on.. which included UMTS 850 & 1900 as well as GSM 850 & 1900 (plus all the other T-mobile bands, obviously)

Whereas, as far as I can tell, the international One S does NOT have UMTS/HSDPA 1900 :( but does have GSM 1900
[HTC One S] renehd2:
Yeah I meant locked, well I have seen several videos where t mobile htc one s is getting 3G /H with at&t man, and as far as I know it has the same bands like the like the international one but, with the plud of the tmobile bands, but correct me if I'm wrong please
[HTC One S] mmceorange:
Yea. Got my international one S yesterday and I rarely get more than 3 bars and is often switching between H and 3G. Haven't run an official speed test yet but data seems to be a little slower than with my A8182 Desire (including page processing)

Also lists compatible bands on the package and does not show 1900 under UMTS/WCDMA HSDPA, only GSM
[HTC One S] mycomputerisjunk:
I noticed the same. I just assumed that 1900 is 1900.

Anyway, I have the T-Mobile US One S unlocked and working on ATT. It seems as fast as the one x I had before it. The only strange thing is that when I run a speed test, it says 9kbps down and 1Mbit up. Pings are 150ms.

Browsing the web, downloading apps are much faster than 9kbps. Not sure why it says 9kbps.

**Update**

Ok, so I tried a different speedtest, and I am getting results I would expect.

3.5Mbit Down

1.1Mbit UP

Again, this is the T-Mobile US version of the One S that I manually unlocked.
[HTC One S] renehd2:
So you are confirming that tmous htc one s works with 3g att bands..?
[HTC One S] mycomputerisjunk:
Yes.

My phone shows, H, 3G, and 2G in my area.

---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:51 PM ----------

Where were you purchasing it from? I signed up for a tmobile contract and paid the $189 for the phone then I think I will pay the $200 ETF in a few weeks. Which would be slightly cheaper than purchasing the phone outright or the international version.
[HTC One S] mmceorange:
What speed test did you get more accurate results with? I'd like to see what I get..
[HTC One S] mycomputerisjunk:
I actually just use the browser and went to sites like:

http://integra.net/speedtest

http://speakeasy.net/speedtest

With that I see:

5.5Mbit down

1.2Mbit up
[HTC One S] mmceorange:
when I go to any speed testing site it tells me I need flash... which I have :confused: Tried both stock browser and chrome
[HTC One S] mycomputerisjunk:
Yep, for what ever reason flash is disabled in the browser. Under the browser settings -> advanced, you need to enable flash plugins.
[HTC One S] mmceorange:
I could've sworn I had set that to on demand... oh well, thanks for the point-out. I'll try testing again after work.
[HTC One S] azncber:
I got the international version and it's only 2g, edge for me... Any help to get 3G?
[HTC One S] faraband:
Does AT&T recognize what phone you have? Does it force a data plan on you?
[HTC One S] iNeedICS:
At&t can't force a data plan on you but they won't give you data if you don't pay :banghead:

Sent from Squishy's One S \(^_^)/
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WannabeMKII:
I've had my Nexus One a couple of years and there's not really anything out there I really fancy at the moment.

Therefore, to give it a new lease of life, I really need to get more free space.

I'm running 2.3.6 straight from Google at the moment on a rooted device to cut down on network bloatware.

However, in the UK there's lots of apps we can't use and I don't want to use, such as Voice, Music, Books, Facebook... but these can't be uninstalled.

So what are my options? Do I run a custom rom? Is there a rom that allows me to remove the built in apps?

Any helps or suggestions welcome.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ricosuaveishere:
Cyanogenmod

One word, Cyanogenmod.

I'm shocked your phone is rooted and you haven't flashed it by now. If you can get a fresh battery for your nexie, you will not "need" an upgrade for another year at least.

Rom Manager from the market will also make everything go a lot smoother. Also, watch a few YouTube videos to speed things up a bit on your end.

Josh-

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/nexus-one
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelshawdow:
Since you have already rooted you can easily uninstall your apps like facebook,books by using "root uninstaller".which is available for free in the play store

Use app 2 sd to move apps to sd card

Google's stock rom is bugless but u can add a taste to ur nexus one by flashing custom roms like cyanogen mod,sense roms:p
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1newbie:
if u just want to remove those bloatwares but still stay on stock rom, u can use titanium backup to remove those unwanted apps.

imho there are plenty of roms (even stock based) that are rock stable and more efficient than stock.

i suppose ur warranty shd hv finished and there wont be official ics, then wats the point in staying wid stock. ( jus my 2 cents :) )
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WannabeMKII:
OK, I've decided to take this route, but I'm missing the basics, as I can't seem to get the fastboot to work following this guide to install a custom recovery image.

I keep getting 'fastboot not a recognised command'?

I'm probably doing something really stupid, but I don't know what?

FYI - Running Windows 7 if that makes a difference?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WannabeMKII:
Ignore me, sorted that bit now, so onwards I go...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WannabeMKII:
Managed to get it all up and running, but had to go through installing the app from the market, as the startup option didn't seem to work. I'd select something, but it wouldn't actually do anything!?

So now I've got it installed, are there any key things about Cyanogenmod that I should setup, enable, install etc to get the best from it?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1newbie:
cyanogen doesnt include gapps

by default. u have to flash it seperately. flash the correct gapps provided along with the rom :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WannabeMKII:
I installed gapps afterwards without a problem, it was Clockwork I was having issues with, but got around that.

Had a little play earlier today and all seems to be going well with a more space.

More tweaking this evening :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1newbie:
tweaking n playing... thats wat u get by rooting ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eXtremeLT:
Hi every1,

i'm having problem with bootloops whenever i use any android SD rom(tested like 5 so far), basically it just tries to boot it - boots for 10-30s and restarts the phone.

I don't know what to start with, since it can't be size problem(have like 6gb dedicated for sd android rom).

Right now i'm trying to achieve it with wp7+android sd dual boot, everything is prepared(wp7 works), but android doesn't.

The thing is that my hd2 has broken volume- button, so i'm not able to get into default bootloader and as a result can't do full wipe. Also i can't choose android folder, so i put all files in root folder and as a result it works like that. Also tried to change startup.txt - removed the rel_path - still the same accours.

Not sure how can i fix it/what to check.

Maby there's way to go into default bootloader w/o volume- button? So i'd be able to reinstall wipe everything and reinstall magldr, not sure how else can i fix it.

Not sure if it's the problem, but anyway here's how i made dualboot(folllowed youtube tut):

created new part out of unallocated space for wp7 of ~8gb size

resized fat16 partition(default wp7) to the max of leftover space(~7gb total)

changed wp7 partition to be primary.

p.s. i tried few roms with latest 4.03-4.04 ics + hwa, but just to be sure also tried gingerbread miui - still the same result.

Anyway there was one weird thing, not sure if it's luck or a problem:

All roms had the same default htc bootloading image - as far as i remember often they're changed, so maby i need to do somekinda reset or something(but i did full format ot the android partition many times :/)

So that's it, looking forward to hear from you soon guys, hopefully i'll make dualboot work somehow :/

EDITED!!!:

After trying other roms - i found out that american droid sd version actually works! Anyway i'd like to make ICS with HWA work :/

EDITED2:

i think so it works because of the fact that it has old bootloading files with rootfs.img, anyway putting this file or +startup file seems not to work, any1 knows how to fully revert to old bootloader which is only for magldr(not magldr+clk)?

NEW UPDATE:

all roms which by default contain rootfs.img do work, others(with that SD_Boot file) do not, any1 could help?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] erwang:
try another sd card

Hello

Had exactely the same problem a while back

Tried 5 or 6 ROM's following instruction work by word and it was always failing, did several full format of my card no luck.

Then tried on another old card 2gb and it work first time.

Cant explain it..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eXtremeLT:
Damn :/ i have f* up 2gb card which i cant' use, and current 16gb is new, won't change it for ics i think so :D

btw previously i launched some of the roms which don't launch right now tho :S (for ex first ics builds)
[HTC One X] p13:
Hi,

Bit annoyed, i'll tell you what happened.

SO ... i was happy with my One X, didn't have the screen flicker, or artifacts, or the bad battery life problems.

Then 1.29.401 came along and changed all that. Screen flickers regularly now, and the battery seems to drain a lot faster.

I called HTC, reset the phone, yada yada yada.

HTC told me to go back to where i got it from to DOA it, even though the phone was more than two weeks old. I call the store's support hotline, they said they would "probably" DOA it if the phone was "like new" ...

It's like new because it IS new, so fine.

I go to the store, wait in line for a good 1-1.5 hrs.

Then comes what we all despise.

"Well ... i can't see anything wrong with it."

That's just GREAT!

I spend another 10 minutes trying to explain that it's most noticeable on greys, etc, etc. FINALLY i get him to notice the flickering. He said we'll need your phone for 3 weeks approx. I refuse, he says tough luck. No DOA, no refund. They'll send it in for "repair".

Now ... all of you here KNOW that a phone doesn't get "repaired". If it's not software, they'll send you new hardware. Simple.

Anyway ... i walk out of the store. I Call HTC again. Same story. Dude tells me all he can do for me is to collect it, will take 10 days.

And then i got pissed off ...

This is how i got them to escalate the case:

Me: "Your update ruined my phone. I didn't have problems before, you not only sold me faulty hardware, you ruined my phone after selling it to me."

Rep: "We have to follow procedures, i cannot just give you another phone."

Me: "But you can just go ahead and break it?"

Rep: "Well ..."

Me: "You sold me faulty hardware, you broke it after you sold it to me. This is your responsibility. I am not going to take days off and incur further costs because you -as a company- are playing hide and seek. You won't 'fix' this phone at all. I don't see some poor schmuck with a soldering iron going at it on a microscopic 10 layer board. You want me to send you the phone for you to throw on a pile and then you'll have to send me a new one anyways. This is a hardware problem."

Rep: "I'll escalate the case for you."

Cue long and boring Q&A...

We'll see what happens. I hope they send me a new phone. I don't want to jump through hoops to get proper and decent service. This phone is expensive, i bought it unlocked and unbranded. They should just stop playing games!

I know you read this HTC, please treat your customers better.

Kr,

-Kevin
[HTC One X] Ripley:
I'm dreading updating to 1.29 in case it ruins my phone
[HTC One X] p13:
The way i see it, it's already in some state of disrepair.

I think the backlight is just PWM controlled since it's leds anyway.

They are probably using some PWM capable pin off of something and some transistors. Either this line is being spiked by something (like RF, or static discharge), or it can't provide enough current to drive the transistors in a stable manner.

I dno, but the second i saw it, i was sure it's a hardware issue.
[HTC One X] EddyOS:
This is, I could quite conceivably have the issue but I just might not notice it - everyone's eyes are different. I mean I can read things at great distance and have perfect 20/20 vision but I've not had a single issue with my handset at all
[HTC One X] p13:
Trust me, you'll know when you have it. It's pretty obvious. It's like a pulsing stroboscope.
[HTC One X] vegetaleb:
There are topics about flickering and HTC answers, no need to open a thousand
[HTC One X] p13:
Yet, the answers all differ?
[HTC One X] double_ofour:
looky here, read the entire first post.. :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1617009
[HTC One X] p13:
Thanks!
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
That's because, in the absence of any real information, people keep making things up. Then, multiple people buy in to whatever the guess of the day is and it starts being treated as fact.

Here are some facts:

- The issue is most likely Teg3 related as it's not occuring on the One XL.

- It's not the physical display or related h/w as the One XL isn't experiencing any similar issues.

- It's most likely s/w as the Teg3-based Asus Prime had similar issues and they were resolved after multiple updates.

- Resolution is most likely out of HTC's control as Nvidia' drivers and low-level code are proprietery; meaning they have to make the revisions.

- Phone's at the height of their flickering score lower on the AnTuTu 2D test. When rebooted they score normally. This points to s/w.

- Further supporting that, the below quote if from a very well respected dev here on XDA.

In the absence of hard fact it's normal to speculate. It's not normal to accept that speculation in place of fact when it's not provided by people with h/w or s/w engineering experience any greater than your own.
[HTC One X] MadHatter01:
I think the At&t version has a little different screen. I keep seeing it it brighter and it has a little different coloring. Could be software controlling that, but I think its more likely just that they have improved the build quality of the display. Better quality then the first batches that came on the first batches of the Htc One X with Tegra 3. I have read that the newest batch of them have better displays.

Look around the 7:05 mark

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/0...tegra-3-quad-core-vs-snapdragon-s4-dual-core/
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
It has the same panel ID's and vendor codes as the One X.
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
The antutu thing: when rebooted, the flicker doesn't disappear, but the benchmark score returns to normal, that would indicate that the antutu benchmark score is entirely different to the flickering

I do understand your points however, I'm just not convinced it is software. And that HTC /nvidia whoever are trying to bodge the software to make it work with crappy hardware that isn't working correctly. Personally id rather have the hardware that worked in the first place without any fixes.
[HTC One X] MadHatter01:
Yes, but I think they have improved on the build quality of the lcd. Sometimes it takes a couple of batches to get through before they have perfected the model.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
My phone and other phones that don't flicker have AnTuTu 2D scores that never change. There most likely is a h/w component to the problem. Speculation is that there's some inconsitency between Teg3 chips and the range they're responding in is outside what the s/w's anticipating. Flickering is just one of the graphics issues. At this point there's nothing to indicate they all aren't related. You can assume that outside the SoC and radios, most parts are common between the X and XL to save on component and production costs. I'd also assume that most of the HTC developed s/w is common to both phones also. The fact that the XL isn't having graphics issues points to something Teg3 related. Especially because the Prime had some of the same funky issues at launch. While it may defy logic, the issues on the Prime were resolved with s/w.