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[Galaxy S III General] maxlnc:
Hello,

checking the Wolfson DAC specs I see it can manage up to a 24/96 rate. Does anybody know if and how the Android system supports it?
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
Updated to LI7+Siyah 1.6 from BL6+Siyah 1.5. Sound quality very good.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
So jb sounds better than ics?
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
I think so, but difficult to be sure (placebo effect?)
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & Objective DAC:

NwAvGuy: ODAC May Update

NwAvGuy: ODAC Released

stock Galaxy S III > digital audio stream >> ODAC (i.e. Epiphany Acoustics E-DAC) >> Neco V3

ODAC:

Epiphany Acoustics E-DAC 24-bit USB DAC Review | AVForums.com - UK Online

Brief Odac impressions

Neco V3:

NECO SOUNDLABS PORTABLE V.2 AMP

new V3 DUAL AMP portable headphone amplifier | eBay

ODAC + Neco V3:

"It is by far the best usb dac i have ever owned. No thoughts of bothering to look for an upgrade. At my age i am sure it will see me out.

Using it with a Neco Soundlab V3 and Grado SR-325is's.Nirvana at last...."

Epiphany Acoustics E-DAC Review Thread

"ODAC + NECO V.3 + Sennheiser HD580 = A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN.

I can't tell you how beautiful this rig sounds. We all know how well the HD580/600 scales with better sources and amps.. but synergy is often undervalued. The ODAC is beautifully resolving and clean.. but the Neco really steals the show, IMO."

NECO SOUNDLABS PORTABLE V.2 AMP

"It's downright disturbing how incredible this combo sounds with the HE-500. In fact, it should probably be illegal (**looks at Arizona**).

When driving the HE-500. I like this combo more than the O2."

NECO SOUNDLABS PORTABLE V.2 AMP
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
The sound from the Pico is a fairly big step up from the E7 (you'd hope so given the relative expense of the two units). Basically every is improved. Is it worth the price difference? To me, yes. That's something each person has to answer for themselves though. Sounds like you might have a chance to trial both though? I really wish we had the same opportunity here in NZ!
[Galaxy S III General] gattari:
My setup s3-odac-o2amp-sennh HD800

I raccomand to try - 1 db in Siyhas kernel settings negative digital gain

I think with - 1 db in negative digital gain the overall quality out of S3 is a bit more musical.

I want more opinion on the - 1 db settings.

I don't think thiis is a placebo effect.

Thanks

Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Interesting setup. Can the odac drive a 70ohm iem without the need of an amp? Is the odac available in amazon?

I've heard some good stuff about the pico but the need for an external power source makes it less portable. But I'm glad to know it sounds much better than the e7.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
To nz and danba

I've seen so many great audio setups from you guys. But some of what I see, like the pico and odac, are not available via Amazon.

So could you recommend the best edac that works with the sgs3 for under 250 usd, and that doesn't require an external power supply like the pico?
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
ICS+ Siyah= Bliss in my ears...
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
"Responses" of the ODAC designer:

"ODAC CANNOT DRIVE HEADPHONES DIRECTLY: There still seems to some confusion the ODAC is a headphone DAC by itself. It’s not. You need some sort of headphone amp like the O2 (the ODAC fits inside), the upcoming ODA, a FiiO E5/E6/E9/E11, etc."

http://nwavguy.blogspot.fr/2012/05/odac-may-update.html

"@Anon (amp needed?). The ODAC cannot directly drive headphones (or speakers). It can directly drive most any line/aux input (powered speakers, desktop audio system, receiver, etc.)."

"The ODAC needs a headphone amp, or other amplifier, receiver, music system, powered speakers, etc. It's has a line-level output and can only drive loads of 5000 ohms or higher (most line inputs are 10,000 to 100,000 ohms). Headphones, however, are 16 - 600 ohms. The ODAC will be very unhappy trying to drive headphones directly. The same is true for most any line output."

http://nwavguy.blogspot.fr/2012/04/odac-released.html

However, a guy said that ODAC made all his headphone amps redundant:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/621386/odac-made-all-my-headamps-redundant

Sorry, you should ask an expert. May be NZtechfreak?

The Pico doesn't require an external power supply.

The Snapdragon-based S3 can be connected directly to the Pico.

Only the Exynos-based S3 has to be connected to the Pico via a USB 2.0 hub.

As the Exynos-based S3 has likely a faulty USB 1.1 full speed parameter, the USB 2.0 hub converts the USB 1.1 full speed traffic only supported by the Pico to the USB 2.0 high speed traffic also supported by the S3.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8688938

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/720#post_8638606
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & Epiphany Acoustics EHP-O2D miniature desktop headphone amplifier with USB DAC:

http://www.totallydubbed.net/2012/0...o2d-dac-headphone-amplifier-mj2-interconnect/

http://noblehifi.blogspot.fr/2012/07/epiphany-acoustics-ehp-02d-review.html

http://hifipig.com/epiphany-acoustics-ehp-o2-portable-headphone-amplifier/

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our...ure-desktop-headphone-amplifier-with-usb-dac/

Samsung Galaxy S III > digital audio out >> USB OTG cable >> Epiphany Acoustics EHP-O2D (i.e. ODAC + O2) >> Denon AH-D2000
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
Indeed it is nice :D!
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & affordable tiny Stoner Acoustics UD100:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/70075257-post210.html

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626632/tiny-dac-big-sound-impression-of-stoner-acoustics-ud100-vs-odac

http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/

stock Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> UD100 >> Sennheiser IE80

Like the ODAC, the heart of the Stoner Acoustics UD100 is the 24-bit ESS Sabre conversion chip.

http://www.esstech.com/PDF/ES9023 PB Rev 0.2aPB 110117.pdf
[Galaxy S III General] zurgol:
I'm looking for a way to plug my S3 into my external DAC which i now use for headphone listening from my computer. It has coaxial and optical inputs. Is there any device, preferably cheap, compatible with the S3 which can output coaxial or optical audio from the S3's usb port?
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
May be ESI Dr. DAC Nano? You should test it.

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with a custom Android-powered tablet Asus/Google Nexus 7:

custom Google Nexus 7 > digital audio out >> USB OTG cable (Micro-A plug inserted in the Nexus 7) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

Customizing Nexus 7:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/627459/use-a-standard-usb-dac-with-a-nexus-7-step-by-step-guide

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/dacs/portable-dac-for-nexus-7

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/225#post_8599585

. ESI Dr. DAC Nano: (Nexus 7 >> USB out >> Dr DAC nano >> SPDIF out)

http://www.esi-audio.com/products/drdacnano/

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30129-ke...gpu-oc-cpu-oc-072912/page__st__60#entry934016

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):

http://fiio.com.cn/product/index.aspx?ID=28&MenuID=020301

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=30281733&postcount=83

. FiiO E10 (USB DAC/amp):

http://fiio.com.cn/product/index.aspx?ID=37&MenuID=020301

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29805237&highlight=asound#post29805237

. FiiO E17 (USB DAC/amp):

http://fiio.com.cn/product/index.aspx?ID=42&MenuID=020302

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/285#post_8696566

. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):

http://ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30129-ke...gpu-oc-cpu-oc-072912/page__st__50#entry931191

. Logitech Gaming Headset G930:

http://reviews.cnet.com/headsets/logitech-gaming-headset-g930/4505-13831_7-34152980.html

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=30590889&postcount=1409

. Practical Devices XM6 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.practicaldevices.com/purchase_xm6.htm

http://www.head-fi.org/t/624085/android-devices-compatible-with-usb-dac-audio-out#post_8636550

. Turtle Beach Micro II:

http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/sound-cards/audio-advantage-micro-ii.aspx

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/and...-issues-priority-with-google/210#post_8565219
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & xDuoo XP-1 USB DAC/amp:

Report

xDuoo XP-1

stock Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> xDuoo XP-1 >> headphones
[Galaxy S III General] mario_jr:
I really loved this DAC.

How much did you pay? Where can I get one Danba?
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Information overload! So many dacs to choose from.

So what are the three best dacs that are 250 usd and below and don't require an amp?

I'll be using this with aiaiai capitals, vsonic gr07 bass edition, koss Porta pro, and woodees iems.
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
It is not mine. I just report the info.

---------- Post added at 11:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 AM ----------

Simply put, the best USB DAC/amp is the one which has a good match or synergy with your headphones.

I don’t know your headphones.

One: A lot of people consider the ODAC+O2 as one of the best USB DAC/amp:

http://nwavguy.blogspot.fr/

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our...ure-desktop-headphone-amplifier-with-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48

Two: A guy sees the paradise with his S3+ODAC without amp+Sennheiser HD800:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/611778/brief-odac-impressions/1020#post_8715689

Three: Another uses a Stoner Acoustics UD100 at 50us$ without amp (same ESS Sabre chip in UD100, ODAC, AudioQuest DragonFly, Hifimediy Sabre):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626632/tiny-dac-big-sound-impression-of-stoner-acoustics-ud100-vs-odac

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2449848&view=findpost&p=54873436

http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=83
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
ODAC & paradise:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/611778/brief-odac-impressions/1020#post_8715689

http://nwavguy.blogspot.fr/

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/swap-meet/220114-cases-odac-bamboo-acrylic.html

S3 > digital USB audio out >> ODAC >> Sennheiser HD 800 headphones

"Well, I put sennheiser hd 800 directly on the ephifany edac.

I see the paradise.

Yes, in my s3 with neutron player I had to down the volune of 7-8 db, this, in theory, not very good, but I am very surprised about the super fantastic quality of sound out of my S3 with syhas kernel.

I am not crazy, please try this with high impedence headphone and share your experience."
[Galaxy S III General] mario_jr:
Any news from Supercurio?

:(
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
AudioQuest Bumblebee Android DAC:

http://www.avland.co.uk/aasp/audioquest/1220/bumblebee/bumblebee.asp

"Designed specifically for Android devices

24-bit ESS Sabre conversion chip

Supports all music files including 24-bit/192kHz lossless

Drives headphones directly with 3.5mm mini-jack output

Fixed or Variable output modes

Asynchronous transfer for accurate digital timing

64-position (computer-controlled) analog volume control

Isolated dual master clocks

Colour changing LED to indicate source sample rate"

I am wondering if the AudioQuest Bumblebee Android DAC is a standard self-powered USB DAC or an Android-specific USB DAC.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/135

The AudioQuest Bumblebee should be likely an AudioQuest DragonFly with built-in rechargeable battery, because it "supports all music files including 24-bit/192kHz lossless".

http://www.head-fi.org/t/617241/audioquest-dragonfly-review-affordable-outstanding-tiny-dac-amp

http://www.stereophile.com/content/audioquest-dragonfly-usb-da-converter

And an Android-specific USB DAC can support only 16-bit/44.1kHz:

http://developer.android.com/tools/adk/aoa2.html#audio-support

If the AudioQuest Bumblebee is a standard USB DAC, while using with a PC or a Mac, the sound quality of the AudioQuest Bumblebee should be superior to the sound quality of the AudioQuest DragonFly thanks to a clean battery power.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/165#post_8540151
[Galaxy S III General] radeonxt:
lols

keep the faith.

:victory:
[Galaxy S III General] hykhleif:
hey guys

i don't know if you can help me

i updated to poland JB rooted rom, I noticed that there are stutterings in music while listening on bluetooth

also i don't know how can i get the best sound quality of this phone. I know bluetooth technology is not that good comapred to wired listening.

But why is the sound on bluetooth poor compared to the sound that i get from bluetooth from the iphone. I am sick and tired from flashing roms, and trying different players, and playing with equalizers.

Please help me in getting a good sound
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
have you tried siyah kernel ?
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
I don't use bt, but I do know the sgs3 supports the new aptx bt compression protocol. Your bt accessories may not and this could be some kind of communication error. Try filling with the bt settings and see if you can toggle it off.
[Galaxy S III General] hykhleif:
i don't understand your reply, what you mean try filling with BT settings

it seems I am completely a newbie in sound area, I want to enjoy my music in my car on my bluetooth sony stereo, what is the best thing I can do to achieve best sound quality. Is there anything i can buy, or do to improve sound quality over bluetooth car stereo.

And why different phones gives different sound quality over bluetooth using the same poweramp player
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
It just adds noise .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
I meant fiddling :)

The sgs3 uses a new bluetooth compression protocol called aptx that's supposedly better for streaming high bit rate audio (up to 384 kbps iirc).

I suggested fiddling with the bluetooth settings to disable this feature as it might cause some device incompatibility.

But I checked the bluetooth settings and there are actually no longer toggle settings :(
[Galaxy S III General] liamR:
SGS3 not doing well in the Engadget comparison -

www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/iphone-vs-rivals-audio-tests

What do you think about it ?
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Doesn't the sprint version have the yamaha chip?
[Galaxy S III General] john.tracks:
This is also a reason to convert to S III from 4S
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
pleased with siyah, I am planning to have a kilpsche S4A for my S3 within my budget. I hope it is atleast better than the stock earphones that came in with the GS3
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
It's definitely better.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
So what's the best working dac for the s3 under 250 usd?
[Galaxy S III General] NZtechfreak:
Hi, sorry, missed your question earlier.

I'm looking to get a Leckerton UHA-6S.MKII (once I get confirmation it works from another Int S3 owner who has ordered it and gets his Monday). Need confirmation that it works with the International S3 so that hopefully it will work with my Galaxy Note 2.

The UHA-6S.MKII has stellar reviews and is only a tiny bit above your price range, so might be worth paying that little but more? I will let you know whether it works as soon as I find out. Apart from great sound and being a combo DAC/amp it also has a charging bypass and can run off its internal battery, so really fits the bill well for use with the S3/Note 2.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Thanks NZ, but what would you recommend for less than 250 usd as I think that's as much as I want to spend.
[Galaxy S III General] ch0ka:
I'm currently using a bi-wired pair of AKG K701 with a FiiO E9 on my International S3 (RevoHD + Perseus Alpha 23).

Absolute Harmony ;)
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
I use vsonic gr07 bass iems
[Galaxy S III General] _ray_:
Please can anyone confirm if the I9305 has the same wolfson audio chip as I9300 ?

many thanks
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Leckerton Audio UHA-6S MKII USB DAC/amp

http://www.head-fi.org/t/602493/new...essions-added-july-20th-2012/435#post_8698006

"Pros: Portable, Sturdy, Easy to use, No hiss with iems

Cons: You will want to listen forever and not go to sleep...

Right when I thought my gr07's couldn't get any better. This little amp brought my listening experience to a whole new level. Before with just the j3 and the gr07, the sound could get congested at times with not enough breathing space, but with this amp, it opened things up, it allowed everything to flow naturally. This amp is also super transparent (with the opa209 op amp) it shows you everything cleanly and effortlessly. If you haven't already gotten a portable amp for your dap GET ONE NOW and thank me later. Also, this amp works wonderfully for iems, there is absolutely NO noise or hiss at all."

http://www.head-fi.org/products/leckerton-audio-uha-6s-mkii/reviews/7574
[Galaxy S III General] Kendoji:
Yeah that Leckerton amp is lovely. I got mine with the 627 opamp upgrade.
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & Matrix Mini-i:

http://www.headfonia.com/matrix-mini-i-balanced-dac/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/465#post_8768166

stock Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> Matrix Mini-i >> headphones or amp
[Galaxy S III General] Woodend:
Unfortunately it isn't. Let's hope that Supercurio finally releases Voodoo sound and boost its sound quality. I wonder why it takes him so long.
[Galaxy S III General] Teio:
That's how he is... He always does this...

He's been about to release his display expert app for months, but AndreiLux the developer of Perseus kernel, just found a fix for the black crush screen (which is mainly what display expert was for), and he said that the fix was ridiculously simple and he has no idea as to why Supercurio was sitting on the fix for so long without releasing it...

Guess he is trying to increase his profit...
[Galaxy S III General] Woodend:
He tweeted a couple of weeks ago that he is still busy with it. But it has gone very quiet again. It´s time to spill the beans, I think!

Can he match or improve the sound quality of Siyah?
[Galaxy S III General] Teio:
Given that Goran used his old voodoo drivers, i guess he can match or even improve... That is IF he even releases it
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Samsung Galaxy S III & HeadAmp Pico USB DAC/amp:

Pictures Of Your Portable Rig (part XV)

Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> micro-A male to type-A female USB cable + type-A male to mini-B male USB adapter >> HeadAmp Pico >> V-Moda M-80
[Galaxy S III General] Kendoji:
Nice! Swap the Pico for a Leckerton and that's my exact mobile rig. V-Moda is awesome, my M100s should be arriving shortly!
[Galaxy S III General] midirt:
I bought Behringer UCA222 USB DAC and tested it in my car with the USB OTG cable with power from ebay that I mentioned before. It works great! And the phone is indicating a charge. Sometimes when first playing music after plugging the device it sounds like fast forward for a few seconds (I guess clock rate mismatch or something similar), but after the presumably clock is locked it plays perfectly fine.
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
do you use it as an amp or dac? i just saw someone post on head-fi that he was kinda disspointed by its performance as a dac.
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
S3 > digital USB audio out > Stoner SD100>Sennheiser HD 700 Siyah kernel No need of amp: Good SQ
[Galaxy S III General] agatece:
Poor man´s external DAC

Not comparing to anything of decent quality, but I always liked the "pure" feeling of the sound on my Microsoft Lifechat headset.

Well, it failed (can´t handle a 90Kg person walking on the dark, it seems) but I saved the USB to Audio part for some use.

Good surprise, when I came from the i-World to the S3, to find out that it supports OTG and USB-Audio - and the headset was instantly recognized. :)

All that was left was to attach a P2 jack to the small box and connect it to the Aux-in of the car stereo. Now I have clear high-ends that weren´t clear when using the S3´s headphone connector.

So, I am very happy with the quality of the result - although I am not saying in any way that the Lifechat can be compared to anything professional. It´s just that it was a cheap solution and a great result for the price.

Just thought I´d share!

Cheers
[Galaxy S III General] diznikkabcb:
Does it count if you hear the crackling sound when you're making a phone call? I've been trying to fix this all week. Anyone have a solution?
[Galaxy S III General] mflow:
S3 > Topping D2 > Sennheiser HD650 , working just great :D

tried with FiiO E10, fails, E17 also fails, E7 works just great :)

lookie here

http://www.avland.co.uk/aasp/audioquest/1220/bumblebee/bumblebee.asp

a Android designed DAC :D
[Galaxy S III General] s0ja:
Sorry to disturb you guys, I know you're all busy finding out whose DAC and headphones are the best :P

I thought this might be the right place to ask: Anyone got skips or crackling sound when using the latest Jelly Bean leaks (Sweden)? Doesn't matter whether I use stock kernel or Siyah 1.7RC1, issue still comes up every few minutes. I use Poweramp, doesn't matter whether I play FLAC or MP3 files....
[Galaxy S III General] Erahgon:
Are you experiencing crackling sounds while music is playing or stuttering/skipping.

My current setup is ARHD 12.0 (based on XXDLIH) + Siyah 1.7rc1 with PowerAmp. I don't get a crackling sound, but I do get a rare stutter at times during high load.
[Galaxy S III General] agatece:
No cracking or stuttering at all, but running the Poland one. Maybe a full wipe (including system) prior to reflashing could help. I wasn´t having the butter on my S3 until I did the system wipe.
[Galaxy S III General] Erahgon:
True that. I hadn't wiped the system for the last few versions of ARHD. I changed over to PA 2.22 now. No crackling (never had this since it was fixed by the time I bought my S3), good SQ with Siyah and a few DSP Manager settings (to accommodate my Bluetooth receiver too)!

Although I'm getting stutters during heavy load. But I think I've figured out why: I have the swap mod installed, and I'm using a partition on the external SD card as swap.

It's a class 6, 64 GB card, and my music is stored in that too - in a partition formatted to ext4. By increasing PowerAmp's buffer size and audio priority by +1, and decreasing swapiness to arnd 85 in the swap init.d script, I was able to make the stutters way fewer. I'm going to keep experimenting till I'm lag free! :)
[Galaxy S III General] gubbe:
Bluetooth in-car: caller hears echo of himself

I seem to be having an issue with receiving calls and having conversations while using the bluetooth audio in the car. I hear everything fine, but callers hear an echo of themselves.

Should I expect that my S3 is the issue - or that it's over for the car audio?
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Custom Stoner Acoustics UD100 based on 24-bit ESS Sabre conversion chip:

Tiny DAC, Big Sound – Impression of Stoner Acoustics UD100 vs. ODAC

http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/

Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> custom UD100 cable >> amp >> headphones

Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> UD100 USB DAC >> Pico Slim amp >> FitEar TO GO! 334
[Galaxy S III General] eseregin:
And.... Do you mean this complicate construction will give you much better sound quality then just put headphone in 3.5 mm slot?

I doubt it TBH

Some ESS cheap have better output than WolfSong in our phone?
[Galaxy S III General] danba:
Definitely yes, to my ears!

I don’t have a UD100.

But I have an ODAC which is based on the same 24-bit ESS Sabre conversion chip.

External USB DAC existed before smartphones for some reason.

A digital to analog conversion chip is not a DAC. There are other electronic components.

Simply put, the best conversion chip with a jittered clock won’t provide good sound quality.

ODAC, UD100 or AudioQuest DragonFly which are based on the same 24-bit ESS Sabre conversion chip won’t provide the same sound quality!

Apparently, you are not aware of the quality of the different conversion chips.