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[HTC One S] azzledazzle:
boot into fastboot and run an RUU... this should clear up this mess and allow you to start a fresh
[HTC One S] :
There's minimal issue if you read up and know what/why to do things before doing it--

But, either way you take your chances when rooting and flashing--key is reading enough to figure out how to get out of trouble. I am still doing that with One S and won't flash roms till I learned enough and see how they are working out. Flashed enough with my N1--kinda need a break anyway--:)

I used torxx's method with Paul's Touch Recovery and Chainfire's SU. Zero issues. Enjoyed Nandroiding and cleaning bloatware. Don't know if I will flash custom rom, although I did that hundreds of times with my N1. This phone has all I need atm.

If your are going to get OTA after rooted, you need to fastboot flash stock recovery first and get root keeper from market to not lose root. Or reflash it. Helps to have a nandroid and sdcard bu too--

One thing I thought about with this new phone and roms is the ability to wipe system without fastboot. Had to do it alot before flashing new roms to minimize issues with my N1. I am not sure current recoveries offer that feature yet--not sure. And, if that would help people flashing roms here. I also had a format zip for system/data etc to just flash thru recovery, courtesy member Temasek--

Ken
[HTC One S] franzyx:
Where i could find an RUU? link? Thanks
[HTC One S] :
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1543588

make sure you get right one for you and read thru thread for tips if needed
[HTC One S] ascot17:
I also have a T-Mobile UK phone.

The bootloader originally said 'LOCKED'.

I unlocked via HTCDev - it now shows 'UNLOCKED'.

I have not yet rooted or flashed a recovery - I have no 'TAMPERED' message!
[HTC One S] raikesy:
Yea its strange, I contacted HTC who were also stumped and are looking into it further.

I'm not really bothered as I'm swapping it out next week (MAO issues again) but its hard to work out why it would show both TAMPERED & LOCKED straight from the factory. I would expect to see TAMPERED accompanied by UNLOCKED or RELOCKED, not LOCKED.
[HTC One S] ViViDboarder:
So, quick question. I'm having trouble figuring out what's being said.

Does RUU get rid of the tampered flag if you never unlocked?
[HTC One S] kenyw:
My handset is also showing TAMPERED and LOCKED. It was one of the early batches. I phoned the shop, but unfortunately as I have had the phone since early April they said they would need to send it to HTC for a warranty repair.

I brought it up in an online chat with HTC support and they don't seem to have information on this.

Update: HTC looked into it and sent me an email saying

"We have been looking into this for you. The "Tampered" words on your bootloader mean that the operating system has been modified or rooting in some way. This means that this will affect your warranty. I do apologize for the bad news regarding this."

Given that I haven't actually done anything to the OS, this isn't helpful at all. >_<
[HTC One S] h.han:
Strongly suggest you go to the shop physically and show them what it is and tell them you had not tried to root or done anything which would cause it to show tampered. So it means they sold you a bad device. And this is not obvious thing to notice so as a normal end user you should not have performed the bootloader check but the point of sell should ensure the quality of their product. Therefore, this device should be classified as DOA, defective on arrival. So the shop should exchange it.

Be strong, confused and very worried, mention this thing voids your warrenty so very serious and show a bit angry, but not too much. If it is a responsible shop or operator, it should listen to you.

The bottom line, ask them to call HTC customer rep and ask them to speak to HTC first. Emphresise you had done nothing but use the phone properly. If they can not describe the thing clearly, take the phone and speak to HTC yourself. But make sure the shop is on your side.

Worst case, if HTC still insist that you had caused the tamper, tell them to check you imei to see if you had unlocked via HTC dev website. That's the only way you would have rooted the device.

Nightmare case, they checked their record and found out your device had been unlocked, ask them to verify when that was done, they must have that info. So the date should be before when you bought it. So at this point, you are cleared and could immediately shout back: what a hell you allowed a unlocked and non-warrenty device to be on the market! And they would apollogise then you walk away with a shinny new one s.

End of story.
[HTC One S] oo03sjw:
Totally agree with h.han, don't let them get away with it.

I brought mine on release and after a few emails to HTC and Handtec all sorted.

Took my old one in today and picked up the new one as arranged, no issues.

As a foot note the guys from Hantec where great and from the outset only appeared to want to help - they even mentioned that the phone was showing signs of chipping which I had never noticed because I always had the gel case on it!

Now the debate is wether to keep this or get rid as a new unopended unit?

It is a great phone but worth this grief? decisions, decisions...
[HTC One S] raikesy:
Yea, I would open a ticket up by email, so you can write it all down there and attach photo's of the bootloader. The important thing to remember here is that we CANNOT put the phone back to a 'LOCKED' state ourselves. So if it is still showing as 'LOCKED' yet is 'TAMPERED' then there is no way you could have done that yourself (as far as I understand it)

This is the reply I had from HTC after I sent them pictures etc.

"Thank you for providing me with the additional details to enable me to resolve your enquiry. I will continue with the escalation simply for investigative reasons as this is a worrying issue regardless, I would be interested to see if any replacement from T-Mobile has the same issue.

I am sorry to hear that you are also having issue with the Micro-Arc Oxidation on your HTC One S and hope that your have a better experience with your next HTC One S handset I look forward to hearing that this has resolved your enquiry, to close your email or alternatively to reply to me please follow the links below. You will shortly receive an email asking you to submit your feedback, I would appreciate if you could take the time to let me know about the level of service I have provided you with."
[HTC One S] kenyw:
raikesy, what HTC have told you is a very different reply from what HTC has given me in another chat; it is quite frustrating that the answers are not consistent.

I pointed out to the support rep that I would have needed a htcdev token to unlock my boot loader, and his reply was simply that HTC were not currently issuing tokens for the One S, and that my phone must have been rooted via a different exploit (he mentioned that HTC are aware of a few). That HTCDev do not do One S unlock tokens is, as far as I can tell from the evidence on XDA, rubbish.

Quite disappointing, and I hope the email I shall send them will reach someone more knowledgeable.
[HTC One S] h.han:
That's ridiculous and disgusting, I already feel very very pissed even the response was not to me.

Is this the way to treat a customer??!! Just stupidly pointing out wrong information about htcdev unlocking one s is already unprofessional, the guy even said HTC is aware of other exploit! What the f**k was he trying to imply??!! We are not criminal we don't deserve being treated like this. If he thinks the phone was rooted before, prove it, don't just sit at the desk eating popcorn while day dreaming.

Very offensive I feel, hope this is just individual case. Keep sending email mate, you paid for the phone, you deserve the product as expected, any defect is unexpectable. If necessary, complain through HTC complaint department. Those guys dealing with complaints are normally highly trained and professional cos that's the last chance for them to rescue their reputation.
[HTC One S] kenyw:
Thanks for the support.

So far based on reading this thread and my own experience I'm summarizing the issue as:

- Bootloader screen shows TAMPERED and LOCKED on a supposedly factory condition unit.

- Possibly afflicting only a small number of handsets, but most users will not ever start their phone in bootloader mode, so the issue has low visibility anyway. An affected user is likely only to find out when denied warranty service.

- Affects both International and T-Mobile units, and therefore units of either colour (so far I've seen posts from T-Mobile units and International SIM free units)

- It is not possible to get TAMPERED and LOCKED by rooting using HTCDev. There are no other known methods of rooting the One S at present. People on XDA who have rooted their One S end up with TAMPERED and UNLOCKED/RELOCKED.

- HTC are regarding the presence of the TAMPERED flag alone as sufficient to void the warranty.

- At least one support rep in HTC has indicated willingness to investigate the problem.

- It might be possible to work around the problem by flashing an RUU, which apparently makes the TAMPERED flag disappear.

My own comments at this point:

The low visibility of the issue means that HTC probably have not anticipated it, hence the mixed messages coming out of HTC support. The advice I received was that tampering had occurred between factory and buyer (though in my own case, there was no sign of tampering with the packaging), and to exchange the phone, however my phone is out of its 28 day return period with the e-tailer and they would understandably be reluctant to just take it back.

Yet this is an issue that is not likely to be discovered early during ownership, if at all. My main concern is the second point in my list - that a normal user would only find out about this if something went wrong with their (stock) phone and HTC denied warranty service on the grounds of the TAMPERED flag in the bootloader.
[HTC One S] WCCobra:
Has anyone compared one of these tampered devices to other stock units?
[HTC One S] c_brown93:
Mine said Tampered and I got mine from T-Mobile and I went back and showed them. They exchanged it out no problem in the store because it was within 14 days. So now I got a brand new one and it doesn't say it now (:
[HTC One S] orenfl:
I'm in the same situation but noticed it only yesterday, 5 weeks from buying it brand new in a Swiss MobileZone shop while I live in Israel...
[HTC One S] orenfl:
After running the 1.78 EU RUU, Tampered is gone and only LOCK is left :)

I hope I also fixed the network issues I had with that...
[HTC One S] kenyw:
After the chat that I had posted about previously, I filled one of the customary surveys and made known how I felt about the service from that chat.

Someone from the HTC complaints department rang me yesterday to get more details. I explained the situation to him. He sounded like he was trying to help, and in what I thought was a fairly courteous and professional manner explained that HTC were not able to deal with this issue directly with me, but they had processes in place with the distributors and retailers which they did deal with.

He said my comments would be fed back to the head office, so I made known my concerns on this issue, my main point being that a normal user would be very unlikely to discover this issue within their retailer's 2-4 week return period (if they even had one, the UK tends to be quite consumer-friendly in this respect), and therefore HTC needed to be able to do something about this.

For me, I'm conversing via e-mail with my retailer now (I bought the phone online and their physical premises are hundreds of miles away in another town). Hopefully they'll be able to take it back. HTC have my IMEI from the ticket and have probably just marked my handset as unwarrantied at their end so flashing the RUU won't solve that problem.
[HTC One S] h.han:
Yes, it's quite a process, but at least you made progress and I believe your point is really valid so hope you would get things sorted soon. Even you are out of the 2-4 weeks initial period, your warranty should still cover this fault and if HTC cannot prove you caused this they should honour the warranty. Good luck.
[HTC One S] ViViDboarder:
That's good to know!

Can anyone else confirm RUU gets rid of the TAMPERED text?
[HTC One S] O0cynix0o:
Or you could just use another phone or a camera.

Sent from my rooted and debloated T Mobile HTC One S
[HTC One S] :
this is old news now--:)
[HTC One S] tongueman87:
Well I called T-Mobile and asked them about what was going on with the tampered locked on the phone. Luckily I got throuh to a guy that had some common sense. He called me back later in the day and explained what was going on. He said it is due because of HTC while flashing the HTC sense 4.0 and ICS into the devices it caused the tampered. So IMO if we can figure a way to unlock boot loader and s-off without HTC dev then we will be fine with warranty. Just putting my information that I was given out there XD
[HTC One S] kenyw:
Retailer has got back to me with something more positive (for me, at least). They spoke to HTC and HTC have said that the phone can be sent to one of their centres for the TAMPERED indicator to be removed.

Not a perfect resolution, but I'll be happy with ensuring my phone keeps its warranty, since there's nothing else wrong with it. Though it does sound like I'm being asked to send my phone away for a week or two just to have an RUU flashed on it, something I could do myself in an afternoon.
[HTC One S] Totòòò:
Never got it why u settle for staying two weeks without a phone. I mean it wasnt ur fault, u paid money and u deserve to have the product u paid for. Just go to tmobile and insist to get a replacement right away. Seriously wtf is wrong with this taiwanese microcompany it has been two years at least that idk who told them to feel like the bruce lee of the smartphone market. Helloooo guess why your quarter earning keep falling :D
[HTC One S] jh787:
I got the same tampered flag wheni tried to root using a method on the one x forum (without unlocking bootloader ) .

After reflashing a stock RUU the flag went away.
[HTC One S] kenyw:
My view of HTC support has further dimmed after a new message from my retailer today.

The retailer took my phone's details (serial #) to open a case with HTC so my phone could be returned, but now HTC have told them that 'due to their quality procedures the phone would not have been tampered before leaving the factory'. Their recommendation that has been relayed to me is that the phone should go to a HTC centre for inspection, but they cannot say whether they would do the repair under warranty or not. I think the retailer is trying to help (albeit not as hard as I would hope), but also think at this point that HTC are trying to indirectly say it is somehow something I have done to the phone.

I really like HTC phones. The Desire served my uses very, very well for 2 years. The One S feels like it would do the same. I also like it that htcdev provides a less hacky/risky route to root :). But the quality of their support counts against them now, and I'll tell about this along with all the good comments, when anyone asks me for phone buying advice.

When I feel like it I'll fix the tampered flag with the RUU. It's a lot easier than dealing with their support.
[HTC One S] ViViDboarder:
As a consumer you deserve to know the terms of the warranty. I have found that it can be difficult to find... That said, if RUU works, it's not worth the trouble.
[HTC One S] igooor87:
just called the customer care (because i have the same problem).

The girls said that it's ok and, with that combination (tampered + locked), the phone keeps its warranty..
[HTC One S] godutch:
on my gf' s one s the bootloader now says: "tampered". I did not root nor try to install custom firmware, nor did she and I am pretty sure it did not say tampered when buying the phone (I tested it and did a few factory resets before giving it to her)

device was bought from an online shop, unbranded, simlock free, the sim is (dutch) tmobile; also it only said tampered after inserting a new tmobile microsim, it didn't say tampered with the old tmobile cut into microsim, regular sim card
[HTC One S] gallolu:
I have the same problem with my HOS. I bought it in Germany and it should be a new unbranded device (though bought it at "mobilcom-debitel" if someone minds).

I took a picture of the bootloader screen (see below). It shows TAMPERED/LOCKED. I called the HTC support and they told me that the shop maybe sold me a used device and I should talk to them.

As kenyw said, I have a problem with my device and was managing a replacement/repair while the HTC support noticed that my device cannot be send to them for a repair, so it already became an issue.

Given that my phone is stuck in reboot (and I've done several hard/soft resets) I can't flash a RUU.

So I'm curious about what the shop will say tomorrow when I'll try to get a new one .. :)
[HTC One S] usaff22:
Can't you run an RUU in fastboot? I think you can do that and restore the phone.
[HTC One S] gallolu:
It actually worked (I didn't know that this was possible)! I could run the RUU in fastboot. And the ***TEMPERED***-flag has been removed.

But: The phone is still stuck in the boot loop. Going to bring it to the shop today.

BTW: I send an e-mail to HTCdev.com regarding the issue and they answered with the following:

So either the phone got "tempered" when I made an OTA-update or I already bought it like this.
[HTC One S] l3ft3r1s:
it's a KNOWN bug

For those of you guys still wondering what's going on with this issue, I've got an "update"...

After reading the thread, I thought I could try HTC's Greek reps' knowledge on the issue. No high hopes though...

After asking my software nr, baseband version (!), and a screenshot from the bootloader, the response of the customer rep. was that my device's warranty was void, because my bootloader has been unlocked! (not! they didn't even check their servers to answer that!). :mad:

After politely asking them to elaborate on the issue, and asking the full name of the rep. that voided my warranty (!), they said that they forwarded all the info to "someone in HTC" (!!!), and that he would call me back within 5 days.

In 5

minutes

, the phone rings, and it's "someone from HTC"! He said it's a known bug/issue, HQ in Taiwan have not yet answered whether, when, and how it will be fixed, and that my warranty is NOT void at all. He was clear enough, "TAMPERED" & "LOCKED" does not void the warranty.

So there you go. There is at least one person in HTC Greece that really knows some things regarding the phones they sell (I really expected that number to be zero :eek:)! Unfortunately I didn't ask his name or position :(
[HTC One S] usaff22:
This thread is quite old now
[HTC One S] ViViDboarder:
Yet this is still great info for someone who stumbles across this in the future with similar questions.
[HTC One S] nrgyitguy:
For Sure! Helpful for me. Thank you.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pandasouljah:
Hey guys, has anyone been able to download tumblr from android market and use it for blogging? I can only find copies (mytumblr etc.) on the market and they don't allow you to create and edit. I tried sideloading it but its very glitchy. I remember reading on the tumblr blog a long time ago that they were going to add support for tablets but I've never seen anything yet...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Asked Man:
As far as I know

There is no official tumblr app for android tablets.

However, the site works very well on the transformer.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rovers82517:
I don't know what info you will need so please just ask if I'm to vague.

I upgraded to ics but couldn't find a root version that would give titanium backup root access, when I tried to flash back to a previous non ics ROM it would get stuck on boot screen, my only option was to reflash ics and restore a backup which was Android 2.3.6.

Now I have severe battery problems, my Baseband is - I9100XXLPB AND KERNEL is XWLA4 running CHECKROM6hd.

I'm stuck for what to do, any advice would be much welcomed, to be honest I'm not sure what question I should be asking.

I want to remain on CHECKROM6hd with jk deluxe settings with full root access, this is important for me, the Baseband and kernel look to be the ics versions but flashing gets me stuck on boot screen, only ics flash will work :/

any help advice would be great, thanks guys...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rovers82517:
removed comment, found edit option lol
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaze105:
A huge number of things factor to battery.

LA4 is the kernel for GB. No ICS kernel would work on GB, it would probably prevent the phone from booting up if you did flash a ICS kernel on a GB rom.

It would probably be best to do a factory reset or even reflash the rom after a full wipe. (after you back up your data)

If you dont want to do any of that, just install betterbatterystats (can be found searching xda forum for free)

Install the app, and use your phone like you do and then check the app to see whats causing the drain.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rovers82517:
what is the baseband? I don't understand what the baseband and kernel really do, how they relate, are they a mismatch?

thank you
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thracemerin:
Baseband is the modem, it is completely independent from the kernel and ROM, you can use ICS modems on GB and GB modems on ICS without any issue, if you are having reception or data speed issues you can change it by flashing one in CWM from the modem thread, if you aren't i'd just leave it alone.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rovers82517:
I changed the Kernel to XXKI4,

The battery seems to be behaving as normal again ;)

sweet
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rovers82517:
Can I take this opportunity to ask what recommendations any of you might have for a good baseband, kernel and build number, for a jk deluxe settings ROM that is battery friendly please
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZACQ8:
Nandroid backup is not backing up the Baseband, that was why you did not get back the Baseband of of your previouse ROM (Checkrom). you will be having the Baseband of the last flashed ROM...

Are you sure you have flashed the Kernel XXKI4 on the rom XWLA4 (checkrom).?

I think you mean to say is "BASEBAND" not the "KERNEL"
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rovers82517:
yes baseband lol, but it was a 'kernel' from kitchen pro I used to flash/install it....... can I blame autocorrect? :)

Me?

I'm English...... as in England.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rocky23:
i think ki4 is a good baseband(modem,radio)and as far as kernel there r lots of good ones like siyah,neak,redpill.....first decide gb or ics...c which is best for u?cause many don like ics an reverted to gb.....but all depends on how u use....remember every phone is diff in thier own way.....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JeremyGuan:
My power button is showing symptom of Dying anytime soon. without having to risk an unresponsive screen after a press on power button, Im looking for another route to access Recovery WITHOUT having to long press the POWER button..

Urgently waiting for reply.

Regards.

:(

EDIT:

Mod please consider close this topic to save XDA's bandwidth. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] samsamuel:
if you use clk instead of magldr, you can enter recovery using rom manager (i think? never used it myself)

dont try rom manager from magldr, it will destroy your recovery install.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kameirus:
what he said lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JeremyGuan:
or maybe you dont even own a HD2? Your comment doesn't even help a bit. Save your 10 seconds to do something worthy instead of replying here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JeremyGuan:
I'll see what i can do with it. Thanks for the advise mate...