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[Galaxy S III General] Hunt3r.j2:
That's not vivid colors, that's oversaturated and unnatural.

The One X has just around 100% sRGB coverage (The spectrum of colors that the system can call to display), Galaxy S series consistently is around 110-130% of the spectrum, which means either the colors don't actually exist in the original image as intended or they've been morphed to create the "vivid" colors that you want.

Yes, S-LCD2 doesn't have perfect blacks. No, it's unavoidable. However, it has one of the best black levels on the market for LCD panels, and the contrast is around 1250, which is a healthy amount higher than even the iPhone 4 IPS panel.

S-LCD2 is the best LCD on the market, and possibly the best display on the market too. It's colors are undisputably better than AMOLED, the battery consumption in high color environments is better, the amount of burn-in reduced, viewing angles are better, outdoor brightness unimaginably better, and you get a full RGB subpixel layout (if you really care about that).

On the outdoor brightness: S-LCD2's white brightness is about 550 nits at max, SAMOLED HD is about 300 nits (optimistically)

Scratch that, S-LCD2 isn't just subjectively better than SAMOLED HD, it is objectively better in terms of experience. Opinion has nothing to do with color reproduction.

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/6 http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/11

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The problem is that HTC doesn't really care about optimizing their browser. If you are an average person you probably won't notice the difference, but people who care can always install another browser.

You can notice the difference in screen because S-LCD2 is much more constant in battery consumption. AMOLED uses no power when all black, but the more color and brightness you add the worse it gets. In web browsing scenario SAMOLED HD uses 3x the power of S-LCD2 or AH-IPS. The colors on SAMOLED HD are very inaccurate and do not look the way that they should. Outdoor visibility of S-LCD2 is much better than SAMOLED HD and does not require any sort of squinting to see.

The One X display is undoubtedly better than the SGS3. Unless Samsung has a major revision from the Galaxy Nexus display to the SGS3, S-LCD2 is still the best display in any phone yet.

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Problem is not processor in this case, Samsung simply put more effort into optimizing the browser to make it smoother.

I suspect custom browsers on the One X will run much smoother. Chrome is probably a good case.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
You see, you are one of the people that exaggerated and over hyped the One X's screen. When I read post like yours I was seriously expecting it to be without a doubt the best screen but it honestly isn't. You might have posted all those links to try and prove some kind of point but you couldn't prove that it's honest personal opinion as I stated previously in this thread. I have the One X in hand and I'm not trying to downplay it's screen. It looks DAMN GOOD, don't get me wrong. But I'm not going to exaggerate about how "much" better it is than other HD screens around or that are coming out. That's a bunch of boulogne.

Over saturation to create colors that probably don't exist in what? A widget or menu? So what? You're telling me that those girls in playboy and maxim aren't airbrushed to look better?

The screens against each other are honestly personal preference, with the HOX barelly nudging out because people who do comparisons that will never matter to the human eye like sticking it under a microscope. In the end, I and and soon many others would prefer the illusion of better looking vivid colors knowing that we didn't have to sacrifice a Micro SD slot, removable battery and will have a better CPU, GPU in addition a unlocked bootloader for those on ATT.

Taking the HOX and the SGS3 side by side to an untrained eye, or the eye of a consumer you'll see better colors in one and sharper images in the other. But a consumer will easily notice the missing microSD slot and removable battery. And the tech guru in others will know that the SGS3 has the better CPU, GPU and most likely unlocked or easy to unlock bootloader on ATT.
[Galaxy S III General] markysd:
no quality control HTC One X..

ok so i just got my HTC One X on att yesterday and what a disappointment..

had the side screen like dented/warped and the back plate not snapped in to the frame of the phone..the second replacement was fine till it got dark and like a 1 half inch on the bottom the the right side was leaking light due to the screen didnt get enough paint allowing the light from the screen to leak out.. called HTC today and was upset at them and i asked them to pay for my return fee* of course they said no but ill call att about it..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1639656

time for a GS3 i guess i can live with the screen..i love the battery/sd extend removal..design is ok ill live with it..plus HTC Sense im not feeling it not for me after all and buggy cant connect my bluetooth headphones never had a problem on my note..over all the phone is nice..ill just keep it till my 30 day return and return it..will stop by at bestbuy where i got it and have a talk to them about what problems i had with this HTC defects.. i dont feel like swapping it again when i know ill have another defect..the first one was the worse phone defect i ever got buying phones.. also my first HTC device and now they lost me as a customer.. never will look into buying HTC again till quality control is good..haha the lady was feeling my pain when i called HTC:D got to do what you got to do to make them understand..im waiting on a email reply :D
[Galaxy S III General] wrxdrunkie:
You mean people that tell the truth? I am sorry you don't like what is considered to be the best screen on the market for a mobile phone. There are probably TVs you would also pick over the true THX picture because ZOMG the COLORS! What they are saying is the truth, you just had a different idea in your mind of what that was.
[Galaxy S III General] Hunt3r.j2:
I'm not exaggerating anything. I'm using real numbers and data to justify my position. You're using your opinion and you don't show why those numbers don't matter and why your opinion is more important. Just going off of my previous evidence, S-LCD2 has better battery life, actual outdoor visibility, more realistic color, and better text display. All you have is the black being true black and "vivid" colors.

Not probably, they physically do not exist in the image. You need to read up on what colorspaces mean in displays, because adding colors that don't exist to a spectrum can be very nasty and overemphasize colors. This isn't about what you think, this is about showing colors exactly as they were intended. S-LCD2 on the One X does, Samsung consistently does not (with standard settings).

No, the screen is better. Not personal preference and stop spreading your ignorance claiming that it is. Bold print does not make your arguments better, and it doesn't take a microscope to see that there's proper colors, better viewing angle, and better outdoor visibility in S-LCD2. Oh, and I'd rather have colors that really do look better because the designer of the webpage/the director of a film/the photographer of a photo actually intended it to look that way, rather than just having everything be oversaturated all the time because a company was too lazy to properly calibrate their screens.

In the eye of a consumer, the SGS3 feels cheap and looks cheap. The average consumer doesn't even know that they have a microSD slot in their phone, and rarely removes batteries. And the tech guru knows that the screen is better, Samsung likes to stop updating their phones for planned obsolescence, and that the difference between Tegra 3 and Exynos 4 makes no difference besides showing off on xda.

Easy to unlock bootloader on ATT? Yes, while we're at it, why don't we pick apart Samsung for taking years to deliver updates to their Galaxy S phones on US carriers? Why don't we talk about how broken GPS was on the Galaxy S and how they dropped support on the Galaxy S for an ICS update, while Sony and HTC support their 2010 devices? Why don't we talk about how Samsung pushed OTA updates that bricked a ridiculous number of phones?

Mind you, HTC eventually caved on the "no unlock for AT&T phones" policy the first time with the Vivid, it's only a matter of time before they do on the One X.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
If you're going to snip, be accurate. The guy posted because he wanted to verify his screen was too warm.

Here's the way it's supposed to look...

P.S. - And don't anyone go there about screen consistency from device-to-device. Samsung's as bad or worse than anyone in that department.
[Galaxy S III General] Hunt3r.j2:
Sadly, HTC is going through QC issues and growing pains with the One series. I suspect that these issues should be resolved in about a month or two.
[Galaxy S III General] quattro_rs:
I realy wanted to get the one x but first one had a broken mic 2nd broken micro USB port 3rd yellow spots on LCDthats when I stopped and asked for my $$$ .
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Why are you trying to prove the HTC one x display is better to me? I never said it wasn't. I'm pointing to you that IT IS PERSONALPREFERENCE. Out of 20 people,how many of them do you think are going to go read a light level test in lumens or a color test. Maybe 1, the rest of them are going to notice one has sharper images the other vivid pictures Out of those 20 how many are going to notice the sdcard and battery. The topic at hand is HTC steals the show,clearly it doesn't.

-Sent from my AT&T HTC One X
[Galaxy S III General] wrxdrunkie:
Just as long as you know you prefer the inferior display when it comes to referring to your preference of SAMOLED over the SLCD-2 I am sure everyone will be happy. I think he just wants to make sure you understand WHY people say it is the best and WHY it is the best. Once those things are accepted and you have a preference that is awesome.

Same things go with headphones, there are people that like for the audio to sound as it was intended and there are people that prefer a lot of bass. The headphones that produce the most accurate sounds are the better headphones that many audiophiles will prefer. Meanwhile, Pedro over there on the bus is loving the bass his Beats by Dre headphones produce and likes em.
[Galaxy S III General] Hunt3r.j2:
I'm not trying to prove it's better to you, I'm trying to put an end to ignorance about displays. I'm showing you that this is not something that is up to personal preference. Out of 20 people, how many do you think will notice that outside, the One X is perfectly readable and the GS3/Galaxy Nexus is not? How many do you think will notice that people gain a nasty yellow hue and that greens go from leaf green to traffic light green, and lips go from pale pink to clown red? How many do you think will notice that their phone keeps up with iPhones for battery life while other Androids stay tethered to the outlet?

Yes, microSD and removable batteries are important, but both can be worked around. You cannot work around a miscalibrated screen without intense technical know-how, you cannot work around higher battery consumption in high-color environments, you cannot work around not being able to see the screen outside.

You can work around lack of storage by trying to load only certain songs at a time, and downloading the ones that you want to listen to but forgot to load from Dropbox. You can work around lack of removable battery with a portable battery pack, and you can replace the battery if the phone is out of warranty on your own.

If you find that you absolutely cannot work without having more than 64 gigs of local storage and carrying no less than 2 spare charged batteries on hand at any time, then by all means go for the SGS3. But don't for a second try to say that the SGS3 is clearly better than the OneX. It isn't, and it will depend upon personal priorities to determine which is better for you. If you care about screen, industrial design, and Sense, the One X is the better phone. If your top priority is absolute performance, microSD/removable battery, and Touchwiz, go with the SGS3.
[Galaxy S III General] markysd:
yeah ill be return it soon:( back to my iCrap :rolleyes: again...good thing i have a 32GB card ready for the GS3:D had it on my note..maybe ill just get the 16GB model then slap the 32GB sd card im sure its enough for my use that the cool thing about GS3:D cant wait now:)
[Galaxy S III General] Hunt3r.j2:
Indeed. The GS3 should be a great phone for people who want lots of storage for music/videos.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
I don't care what your personal preference is. You posted something (twice) that was inaccurate to make your case that the One X is inferior. I posted (twice) so that people looking for any thread of objectivity could draw their own conclusions.

Is the SGS3 truly that marginal that both HTC and the One X have to be driven in to the ground to prove its superiority? They're both great phones; each with (subjective) pros and cons. I'll decide which I want to keep after some hands on time with the SGS3.

As for QC issues, I'll gladly take wagers now as to what percentage of threads on this forum's home page are gripes, *****es, issues, and defects a week after the phone launches. Unless Samsung's found some miraculous new method of sourcing parts and assembling phones I can't see how the SGS3's going to be immune from h/w and s/w issues that every newly launched phone experiences.
[Galaxy S III General] markysd:
yikes..issues too..yeah mine will be going back tomorrow maybe..ill stop by best buy have them look at it..dont want to pay a stock fee* i still want to play around with it for a bit but the longer i wait they might not wave the stock fee*

anyone know the return policy about best buy if a product is defected ? i called them they really didnt say much buy come over and have it checked out..kind of still want to play around with the HOX:D honestly if the defect was not there im still not feeling the device due to HTC sense kind of not digging it..plus ATT locked it:rolleyes: no fun..

im still new to android had the note didnt root it or anything was fun..do ATT block them bootloader thing so you cant install custom roms ect...? i know the unlock version is better on the devs..when GS3 comes to ATT will have dev support like unlocked version? will it all have like same programs or youll have to wait for a tweak that will work on the ATT version that only works with unlocked ?
[Galaxy S III General] Hunt3r.j2:
AT&T's Galaxy phones seem to not have any locks on them, I'm guessing Samsung has more negotiating power in these instances, as HTC is much smaller in comparison.

The One X will be unlocked by AT&T in due time, it just takes pressure on them before they do it. It happened before, that's all it takes.
[Galaxy S III General] miahegypt:
I going for SGS3 Even if the One x have a better screen ( not even better for most of the normal users )

i can't afford to my phone battery runs out and i cant replace it , and i cant afford to run out of space and not able to expand it with Micro SD Card

One X is better in Design , Camera , screen ( not a big Deference)

but SGS3 is better in every thing else + many features One X Doesn't even have
[Galaxy S III General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I am SOO tired of people saying design is better on this compared to that. Design is ALL PERSONAL PREFERANCE when you compare the SGS3 and HOX.

I think the SGSIII looks super sexy.

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To each their own.
[Galaxy S III General] tbong777:
These are MOBLIE PHONES and pocket PDAs!!! Not scientific instruments..No one makes a phone or TV with PERFECT colors...Since I don't carry a 200X microscope around I can safely claim both screens are probably great...I know my Note and SGS IIs ares very nice as were our Captivates.

All this talk about "color saturation" and "scientific reslts and numbers" mean nothing in reality. Color is subjective. People buy products for any number of reasons. For some its "jewelry" for others its screen size. for others it's synthetic benchmarks.....on and on..

For me its features....Is blue blue? good enough! I don't care what "shade" have 5 TVs and none look exactly alike on the same channel...Which on is "right?" Go over to AVS forums and one will see the most important spec in a display is black blacks....LOL

I think the HTC people should just claim their device is better and go to the HTC thread and enjoy their choice and quit trying to "win"

I am a Samsung Fanboy,,,before that a Nokia Fanboy I am a fanboy of a product until that product fails my expectations. Nokia did with the N97 and Symbian...So far Samsung is doing everything right. Including having their lawyers design their product to keep the Apple fruits at bay....
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Yeah, thanks for cutting my quote off short. Where have I EVER said it was inferior? I recall multiple times that I said I wasn't trying to downplay the HTC One X as it is a great screen, but that I preferred and missed the colors of my Captivate. My case was what I prefer, never did I say my opinion was a fact. And I agree with you that both phones have their pros and cons. But look at all the post here, the only thing the One X has is its screen and most of the HTC fans here are riding on that while exaggerating and just downright downplaying the SAMOLED HD screen like it's no good at all. But the sad truth is that we haven't gotten a real review unit of a Galaxy S3 and everyone is coming to a conclusion that it's exactly the same as the Galaxy Nexus which it is not.

The Galaxy Nexus doesn't use Gorilla Glass let alone Gorilla GLass 2 like the SGS3. Furthermore we don't know what the SGS3 is going to look like, we don't. So you're trying to say that I'm going around spreading rumors or BS when I clearly said it was my preference, never did I say the One X was inferior but nor did I say it is much better. But you along with many others have some how come to a conclusion that the Galaxy Nexus and SGS3 screens are going to be equal or exactly the same without little to any real proof. There's more proof that they are going to be different.

Honestly, you have two good screens like this side by side without your eyes and face 6 or 8 inches away, what customer is going to be able to tell?

Ones a Pentile and the Other a SLCD but both look good. So my point is that how does having a so called slightly better screen translate to "the One X screen stomps on the SGS3." That's what I've been hearing and that's honestly an overstatement. Truth is, there is no marginal gap between the displays like comparing a old CRT and a modern HDTV but that's how people make it sound and that's what I don't agree with.

I'm in the same boat as you as I am giving the One X a try for the rest of this month and getting my SGS3 to finally make a decision by June 5th.
[Galaxy S III General] <<Raj$>>:
My dad on seeing SGS3 pictures said is that the fake china phone of SGS3 !

I do agree a little with saying its personal preference but the truth for the most is that its UGLY and disappointing in design. I am not trying to convince anyone here.

Lets not become blind here like the iSheeps supporting anything that comes out of apple saying its fantastic/marvellous/revolutionary. I can smell the sheeps here in our Samsung camp as well now by saying everything great ! Try to appriciate if something from the other-side of the camp is good (Of course under android)

I don't dare to compare my SGS2 display with my wife's HOX! Truly speaking I am starting to hate the Samsung displays because of the blue tint that's so prominent on all the Displays. I do not care about the internals as it has already reached a big milestone with SGS2 with a 1.2 Dual Core with 1 GB RAM but was expecting a nice premium device than the SGS2. SGS2 when compared to SGS3 is far far far far more premium in looks may be I am inclined because I use it :D :D.

All that I was expecting was a decent looking device + a decent looking camera ! I Neither care about SD Card ! Removable battery ! but they all are just a nice additions to a good looking device.

May be its personal preference but I am not sold to SGS3, not to mention I waited 3 months out of my contract for my upgrade to just see this ugly **** as I was very much attached to Samsung's devices. But all that I feel now is that Samsung is taking us for GRANTED in the design section ! Sorry Samsung I have better tastes .

May be it was HTC's mistake by giving such a gorgeous device(One series) just right before the SGS3 ! Otherwise we would have not had so much heartedness towards the non-premium looking SGS3.

from an SGS2 User
[Galaxy S III General] JustinUhhh:
mis-read a post. my bad.
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
I think a lot of us are. Two bad it's not last year, the SGS2 vs. Sensation was a no brainer. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] <<Raj$>>:
I can see the blue tint on the SGS3 prominently in most of the presentation videos!

I have SGS1, SGS2 and G Nexus (My Dad has a Nexus S) and when I compare all these against my wife's One X all Samsung devices are blown away ! that's the truth....

The difference is not just marginal but leaps and bounds if it was not for the blue tint ! even with the Vodoo color correction my SGS's.
[Galaxy S III General] Vegastouch:
Hmm, well i personally dont care what your Dad said or thinks, or what you think for that matter. I dont think the GS3 is ugly at all. It looks to have the same plastic my Vibrant has but it dont matter what it has on it. Its going to get a case on it even if it has 24 karot gold around it. Thats just what i do.

I just want a phone that runs great, has a nice screen and doesnt piss me off. I do think is a bit too big for my liking which is my only issue with it and i dont have AT&T so i wont be geting the One X either....which i think is nice as well. I dont really care who makes it, just so happens right now it is Samsung that is the best i can get right now.
[Galaxy S III General] <<Raj$>>:
100% correct it was a mistake from HTC's part ! if it was just like sensation then the choice would have been easier :D:D:D:D

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I never expected anyone to care as well LOL; seems like you have no choice but to go with SGS 3 unlike me who is stuck between the 2 ! :( one that's UGLY with a brand reputation and the other one that's gorgeous but may be my first device from HTC !

[CONFUSED]
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Why do you compare hox with non hd screens? Obviously hox will look great if done so.

And what's the proof of sgs3 having blue tint? Having a blue wallpaper doesn't mean it has blue tint.

Wait for real reviews to float in