yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
How do I know? It's from Sam's site there is only one there
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I mean try to re-download it. Sometimes they don't download right, get interrupted, etc.

Did you try to pull the battery when it was stuck in a loop and restart?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
not yet, I just redownloaded and flashing now.

Radio is there too right?

Just did it, it worked, thank you for help
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
Still says Kies does not support updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I don't know or use kies. Some other rogers guys have used the tar just fine.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] enegizer07:
You must do factory reset under settings privacy. And do the format internal sd. Mine was like that too
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
After I flash the Tar and it loads, do factory reset and format?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] helio2k:
That is correct.

Sent from my SGH-I727R
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
That's because there is no update. BUT, when you connect your phone to Kies, and select Tools & update... Kies does show you your existing software version... Right? If not, then something is wrong.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
It says not supplrting dowload and sats att. When u do tools all it shows is i727r.

I will do factory reset when needed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, I'm not thinking any time soon....

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Some Jackelope aka "copper7op",posted this on the rogers community forums?

"I currently have the i727 sitting on my desk running an un-rooted, bone stock, 4.0.3 ICS system. It just came out weeks ago, direct from Samsung,...."??

WTF.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dakpluto:
POIDH would be my reply to that person.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Oh, don't worry.... I replied, but I was not quite so diplomatic... Does anyone really think, that IF an official ICS update was released "weeks ago", that the hundreds of thousands of XDA members, would not have noticed?

LPOS would have been the most direct reply to this Jackelope :p

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
Ok sorry, but just to be clear.

I flashed the stock, did factory reset, Kies told me software is up to date.

I flashed custom Recovery

Rooted

Froze some apps

Did not change radio or kernel

So for me to be able to update: Need to unfreeze all apps and thats it, or do I need to flash 3e recovery and Unroot?

Also, Rogers only has 2.3.5 there is no 2.3.6?

Appreciate if some one can clear my confusion.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
You don't need to unroot, you have to unfreeze all the "apps" that rogers added to your phone... If you deleted any apps, such as facebook, urmusic (All the rogers crap in other words), then you have to reinstall them.

From what I can see, you CAN have apps that require Root.

So long as kies can verify your current software version, you should be good to go. Unrooting your phone & returning it back to EXACTLY how you got it may be overkill.. Unfortunately rogers / Samsung didn't tell us exactly what Kies is looking for, in order to get the update...

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
I'm actually not sold that your phone needs to be in exact stock state APPS wise... the update doesn't check for your apps to determine the update status...

I'm currently rooted and running all stock state roms but did delete two bloats by accident back in my noob-root days... and I don't believe that will stop me from getting the update through kies...

We'll see how it goes once the update is rolled out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Well, I had deleted facebook, & I couldn't get kies to tell me what software version I was running until I reinstalled it... So, whatever works for you.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
Interesting..

Again, we'll know when it's rolled out :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ibopm:
Are we all still clueless as to when it's gonna come out?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] helio2k:
Exactly Rogers is keeping us in the dark.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Well then, email, tweet, comment on the rogers community forums! I am! Make some NOISE, maybe embarrassing rogers into releasing the ICS update, is the only way to get them to hustle up! :)

rogers tweets one thing & I tweet a response.. Good thing is that the tweets are in the Public Domain & rogers can't edit them :)

For example :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ckck543:
You sir are a hero :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Jahcure:
Nice doing ,should of also said that bell released it to their faithfull customers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Not for your phone!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
By the way...

Facebook isn't even a bloat, and it doesn't come pre-loaded if I'm correct...

I thought I had downloaded it from the market...

It shouldn't matter if you have FB or not on your phone...

I'm thinking it's got to be some other reason...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
facebook WAS absolutely pre installed on my phone from rogers! It was one of the first things to go!

And kies wouldn't "see" my current software version until I reinstalled it.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
Did it come pre-installed?

I just can't remember.

And you are the first person I've seen who actually said FB is the first bloat to be removed... that's quite interesting.

I removed two Rogers bloat (can't remember which but now I've got urMusic only), but kies recognizes everything fine right now...

So again, I'm not sure what is the right answer here...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Facebook is terrible, and one of the biggest pieces of bloat/spyware out there
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
+1n

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
Agree on app itself being terrible and perhaps you can elaborate on your opinion of it being a 'spyware'... literally?

Sure it knows my email account and where I live but ... what bad is that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
It knows everything...Where you've been, where you go, all your info and contacts, etc.. It's just bad all around, and I don't trust it. It's had issues before and it also helps thieves know where you are where, you're going and when you will be home so they can rob your house more efficiently.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
... talk about being extreme... what are you hiding, a pot of gold?

Turn off your GPS from the pull down bar and there you go, it doesn't know where you are at.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
If that's what you wanna think, ok.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
Trust me, they don't give a damn about where you are at or what you are doing. And quite frankly, if you are wealthy enough to be self conscious about 'thieves' coming to your place, well, get a damn security system. An electric fence. Two pit bulls.

I'm not a FB homer by any means (although I use it often), I think you are just being a 'hater'.

But hey, this is democracy and you can have your opinions. .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sulpher:
Why do you think facebook values each of their customers at $72 each... they take everything they can mine about you and sell it off.

If you trust them, your an idiot. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] CZ Eddie:
Wow, speedtest is hitting under 1/mbps up and down with three bars.

I usually get 18 D and 9 U from my house.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
Ok People this is an ICS update board, can we pretty please stay on topic, I know were getting restless about the update, but this is not the place for debating facebooks safety/security :-) :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] helio2k:
+1

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Kagenui:
xcrazydx is right facebook knows way too much. Glad I got rid of it last year http://flowingdata.com/2011/12/14/what-facebook-knows-about-you/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Anyone with a brain knows how intrusive fb is. Let him be ignorant in his little bubble. We are "hating"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
+1

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I am wondering if it is "Today" yet, Rogers people? Where is your ICS? Dang it!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
"today" from rogers, is about as useful as "no matter where you go, there you are" :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Haha, I just wonder if you're gonna get it before att. I would think so, but who knows.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
It's looking a little bleak at the moment! Rogers & ALL the carriers seem to think that they are doing us a favour, by "letting" us pay them for the service....Could you imagine, if these clowns could control what kind, or version of o/s we were running on our pc?

They need to understand that we are the customers!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
From what I see, you guys don't have many options for carriers, right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Rogers has the majority of cell service in Canada, with Bell 2nd & several small carriers. I look at the US & particularly Europe where you have far more competition and more aggressive pricing.... With Envy :(

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] g2tegg:
Market Share :

Bell - 28.85 %

Rogers - 28.53 %

Telus - 28.23 %

Fido - 7.83 %

Rogers has the most subscribers, but Bell is very close. As far as options are concerned, us Canadians don't have many options. Virgin, Koodo and the like are companies subsidizing off of the big three (Fido used to be independent, until Rogers acquired them).

One company that is new, and slowly making a impact on the "Big 3" is Wind Mobile. I've been seeing more and more towers going up. Until their infrastructure reaches more rural areas, ill probably switch to them.

Edit - Meant to quote xcrazydx. Sorry shaggyskunk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Bad g2tegg, bad :p

Yeah, rogers, unaffectionately known as ROBBERS!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
Well come on now, we Canadians aren't totally limited, we have Rogers, Bell, Telus, and Fido coast to coast (yes Rogers owns Fido)

As well as Koodo (owned by Telus) Mobilicity and Wind

The reason that Europe has better rates than us, is look at their population concentration compared to ours, that reason alone is enough for cheaper rates.

Edit- And better customer service
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
And about 90% of the Canadian population lives within about 100 km of the US Boarder. So, no the population is not reason enough..

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 3rdcoast:
How do you figure that? So that means that in the U.S. the rates are much cheaper? No it doesn't, they have the same problem.

Besides old fashion corruption the reasons are the same as for landline, who owns what. In most countries with cheap internet and cell service the infrastructure is owned by a wholesaler and not the carriers/ISPs. This is how some countries despite a cost of living twice ours can install fibre to the curb for half the price as over here.

Competition won't help Canada until the easement rights and lines aren't controlled by the carriers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Profound contribution.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Good way to get banned.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
Population is too the issue

In 2010 the Canadian population was 34 million

The same year, Europe had a population of 596.5 million people

And we cover 50% more space (excluding Russia)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 3rdcoast:
still not the reason.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
But people always complain about rates and speed of service and availability of customer service and say that population {which=$$$$$$} doesn't factor in

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
Is the reason solely population, no, but it's a big part of it, but all we do is complain about it on forums instead of taking it to the companies themselves. And those that do are few and far between. but times out population to get Europe (so approx fifteen times us) and you get alot more vocal people who aren't willing to just sit by like most of us do
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] howlingmoon12:
It has nothing to do with the population at all, what are we going to do? stop using cellphones in protest? xD

What we needed is to ceed control to a regulatory body not the corporations
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
Lol yah, that's what I was obviously suggesting :-P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 3rdcoast:
If cell covered the whole giant empty space then population density would be the main factor in pricing. But it doesn't, check those coverage maps. If density was the reason then complaining is pointless because nothing will change for a very long time. NOT THE REASON YOUR RATES ARE TOO HIGH
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
What was this Thread about? Anyone, Bueller, Bueller, anyone...?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 3rdcoast:
It was about TODAY which was 30 April. Silly thread anyway so why not knock down a few old wife's tales in the meantime.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, Thanks..... I was being a touch sarcastic... The topic is at the top of each page :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 3rdcoast:
So was I, the topic is at the top of every page.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Echo?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 3rdcoast:
ditto

ditto
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Turpeau:
yes!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] g2tegg:
People seem to be pretty sensitive on the internet lately. Didnt want to see you get all butt hurt over me quoting you incorrectly therefore making it seem as though I was calling you out on the interwebs. Ha I am bored today. Can you tell? My day is proceeding like the ICS roll out from Rogers. The end is NOT in sight. Sigh.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Wickidmasshole:
Soooo

Ive flashed roms that have apparently been canadian since the shut down sequence said rogers. Does this mean there will be official ICS roms that are for rogers that are compatible with my skyrocket?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] wali01x:
yes "canadian" means bell rogers, whoever else that carry these devices..this comes from samsung canada so yeah
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Need to have stock recovery also
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] iceman4357:
Update: We’ve heard back from Samsung and it looks like the rollout will start later this week: “The ICS update will be available this week and will continue rolling out to devices and carriers throughout the quarter.”
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
AT&T has made us a wild pack of starved wolves waiting for ICS...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] polish_pat:
In any case, im not updating because i just installed SkyICS and i love it, with V6 Supercharger, its really fast and smooth
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] wali01x:
boss don't take it harsh i went through it too. i'll explain to ya as how the procedure is gonna be done. well once we get update from our carrier or kies then we're gonna do same thing send a systemdump to here so people can cook roms based off've that. as far as american users there is no update yet because unless tmob or at&t announce it'll be couple of months later. so we have all the things right now, ics leaks, cm9, cm7, stock gb and hopefully soon miui 4. so don't take it in a bad way and if you're new welcome just make it easier so you don't get torched with fire or picketed with those pokey shovels. lol but again just enjoy life's too short.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] LR07:
We hungry
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] flickoff613:
siick time to get out of buggy custom roms!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Huh? :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] flickoff613:
i perfer stock over leaked ics..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] appdroid:
Well leak is always better;) because u don't have to wait.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] deadtorights:
if you unlock it with and use it on Bell network, will I still get the update from samsung kies?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] wali01x:
"us" means what , are you critizing canadians because honestly we canadians don't critisize.. its not just benefit for us but you also and our neighbours aka "states".. so logically think smart .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Me likey bouncy me likey bouncy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tomtommy306:
You can't be serious. This forum is also for the sgh-i727R! Take the attitude somewhere else bud. We don't need it here!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ceasee:
odd

Odd, but when I open kies there is a note that says

LAME!!

Im on Rogers

Model is 1727R

Anyone else seen this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] flickoff613:
yes mee tooo, i think it might be cuz we installed custom rom, so the kies dont recognise it, I even tried installing the stock tar but still the same... anyway around it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Custom rom?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] FlKTION:
Yep you have to flash back to stock for Kies to recognize your phone.

Stock + Odin

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Hurt :D

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] g2tegg:
I think we should talk to the mods of XDA and have more options then to "thank" fellow members. Like Comfort. Cause I would have hit the comfort button in hopes of being forgiven.

I kid I kid. Just trying to get this day gone. Long weekend coming, beers are waiting
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] OFWGKTADGAF:
Funny how "Today" was 3 weeks ago.

Why don't manufactures make pure ics phones? Its not really stock if its only available on the nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] m4570d0n:
Because "today" was referring to Samsung releasing it to Rogers, not Rogers releasing it to its customers. The time at which Rogers releases it for a Kies upgrade could be anywhere from one week to never.

Considering that when/if it is eventually released, there will likely be a dozen threads from people who are incapable or too lazy to search, people should just stop posting in this thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Actually, if you read the article again, you will probably come to a different conclusion;

"Galaxy owners today. I just received an email, plus a*press release*went out, that Samsung and respective carriers will start to push out the long awaited upgrade to Android OS 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich today.".....

In particular the part "Samsung and respective carriers"!

The way I read it is not that Samsung is only releasing it to the carriers, BUT that the carriers are releasing ics to the consumer.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
Well how I read it, (not that it matters :-P ) is that "Samsung and respective carriers will start to push out" not that Samsung will be pushing the update TO the respective carriers. So the update should be coming soon-ish. They do have about five Weeks to go :-)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Jamolah:
There was a new version of Kies AIR in the Google Play Store.

Does that mean it's the ICS 4.0 release?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
NO! Since the alleged (I say alleged, because for all the feedback that we get from rogers) release of the ICS update... There's been a couple of Kies pc updates & I think also a couple of Kies Air updates... Apparently it means squat. Telus website shows that the update SHOULD be out now, meanwhile rogers maintains their intransigent stupidity & "does not comment on future updates"! :banghead:

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] deadtorights:
Get your **** together rogers and release it already!

Bell just release it for HTC sensation and htc raider
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] howlingmoon12:
Stopped by a Rogers place today since my best bud's Lumia wasn't gettting LTE at all and asked out of curiousity....maybe in the next 2 months or the next quarter that new phones are out...0.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah well, thing is that for the most part, neither the retail or customer service levels have the faintest idea what ICS actually is let alone when it's going to be rolling out, so their advice/opinion is best taken with a Dead Sea's amount of salt. :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mymusicathome:
Who needs Rogers when you have xda ;)

Would much rather donate then wait till Rogers gets their act together.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727R on Alien ICS #8
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Sure, my money is on XDA, but the Official Rom release will only help the "child":D Geniuses/Genii with more stability & more magic :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] awarbrick89:
Wow.... 37 days later and still, nothing... Exciting ain't it guys? :-)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Zzzzzz, Uh, Are we there yet :screwy:

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] NooBLesS:
WTH is going on? :confused:

Still nothing?:(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] phil9000:
Surprised? I'm not (see my previous posts on the matter).

With SG III just around the corner, we will never see an official ICS update from Rogers.