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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Lucidmike:
What is the latest version of Kies? I'm just updating to 2.3.0.12035_16 today. Haven't opened it since I put leaked ICS on the day it came out.

SGH-I727 AT&T
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dahunt:
is there an ICS firmware for our phone?

I reflash my phone back to stock and still kies says no new updates?? Has anyone updated thier phone to the new stock Rogers ICS firmware load?

thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
Stock GB

If I'm rooted but still running stock GB (never flashed any ROMs yet), would it prevent my phone from receiving the OTA or Kies update when Rogers roll out the ICS?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xgodx1234:
Nothing yet ... I just checked
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Whoever gets an update first get a system dump
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] phil9000:
I understand from some of the posts that many of the users running ICS on their Skyrocket have experienced faster battery drainage over GB.

If such is the case, I can easily picture a bunch of angry subscribers complaining about their phones running out of power after running the update to ICS.

1. Isn't this issue something that the carriers will be concerned about before putting out their ICS updates?

2. Would a joint firmware and kernel update resolve the problem?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dahunt:
thanks! Wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] D.O.C:
Please stop insulting fellow members; this is not what our forums are for.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Does it actually say "no updates", or when you select the Firmware Upgrade and Initialisation option... Or does it simply do nothing?

The reason I'm asking is, I've read various thoughts as to just how "stock" the phone has to be.. Kies recognises my phone right away.. But some things are either "frozen" or uninstalled....

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kishke:
Kies will recognize your phone even on a custom rom, but if you'll try to update without being fully stock it will claim there's no update available for you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Thanks, I also tried just entering the serial number & model number.. Says something like, not available /eligible... For initialization...?

I've yet to hear about anyone getting the update... As of yet anyway... If it's going to be a few days, or few weeks... I think I'd rather keep my phone as is, until there's an update actually available.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dahunt:
It says no update available. Phone its up to date.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
It's funny watching you guys check for updates every 10 seconds.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, see my previous post... Looks like I'll have to flash back to totally stock :(

Did you flash yours back with your pc, or did you just use CWM.... Seems to me like that might be the easiest way? Also, my pc is giving me a bit of reliability issues at the moment..

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dahunt:
I used Odin to do it. Using full stock rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] g2tegg:
You wouldnt be doing the same? Sucks to be American!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Haha, no. I have you people to check for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kevinmayer86:
Hey, you're american too! You also live in North America! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] vincom:
getting message "does not support initializing" from kies

im on rogers, not rooted, rogers stock firmware, kies recognizes my i727r, but when i click on "tools/firmware upgrade and initializing" from kies i get the message "sgh-i727r does not support initialisation", anyone know what that mean?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] treadlightly:
I want ICS from Rogers just because of Instagram.. how stupid is that.. Can't find a ROM that runs it nicely. Sky ICS is the best I have gotten so far. But I totally assume that the stock ICS from Rogers is going to suck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
It's meaning... No ICS for you... yet.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Kagenui:
It shouldn't take long for one of our ridiculously talented devs takes that stock rom(once it's out) and turns into something wonderful. I can hardly wait myself.:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] g2tegg:
I'm not lazy. I read the forums

Exact same America yet different. The land of free healthcare and a army that has a better chance in a paintball tournament. Oh and if your gay, an immagrant or a dog you have more rights then us born and raised citizens.

But we get the ICS update first. Sorry, had to lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] fear676:
Is all of this really necessary! What ever happened to "lets all just get along"?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] intenseone:
rogers doesnt have the ota feature like att
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
Then..

... so does Kies prevent it from getting the update then?

Again, I'm rooted but on stock GB rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidsc:
Ok Im not in Canada (disclaimer) but i was flashing my phone and flashed a "stock" tar. Everything was fine except it wouldnt update in Kies. I fixed it with downloading the stock 2.3.5 Rom from http://sammmobile.com then i updated via OTA to 2.3.6. But it recognized my device and checked for firmware, which it didnt before. it has to be 100% official. I hope this helps our northern neighbors
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] g2tegg:
This is the internet. And this is getting along lol. You should read some other forums
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Right, I read about you guys checking for updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Kies doesn't prevent rogers users from getting the update, it's HOW we get the update. Instead of getting it over the air, we download it to a pc & install it from there.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
...

I appriciate your efforts on answering my questions but... my question was never answered - will I have issues getting the update if the phone is rooted. (again, running stock GB)

Sorry for any mislead...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
probably, but it may still work if you have stock recovery and nothing frozen or deleted from the original setup
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
I've frozen a ton of things in which I can just unfreeze for the update and freeze them up again, but I did delete two Rogers bloat by accident (a music bloat and a shopping bloat).

Hopefully that doesn't cause issues... they're just marketing apps after all.

Thanked you btw.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
I'm wondering if you manually enter the serial number & model number of the phone into Kies (you can do this, if you haven't connected your phone to your pc yet) Kies will then tell you if there's an option to "initialize" an update... ie; if there's an update available for the phone... So, if you've got the update loaded online & you just hit the enter key once you've connected the phone... Would it push the update, regardless as to the current setup of the phone?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I believe you must have ALL bloat intact to receive an ota
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pryingopen3rdi:
On Kies...

SGH-I727R

Current Firmware:KJ7

Latest Firmware:KJ7

Still no updates for Galaxy S2 LTE aka Skyrocket
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pixelens:
Yeah, I found the only way to reflash to stock is to use the sammobile.com tar - as well some of these other "stock" tars trip your flash counter.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Lucidmike:
I hate to deliver moderately disappointing news but:

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/30/s...de-will-be-available-today-on-select-devices/

If you read original link that was posted by the op, it has been updated saying "Update: We’ve heard back from Samsung and it looks like the rollout will start later this week: “The ICS update will be available this week and will continue rolling out to devices and carriers throughout the quarter.”

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/30/samsung-canada-ics-touchwiz-rollout/#disqus_thread

Another thing that people haven't noticed yet:

Engadget posted the exact information but, they only mention:

Samsung Galaxy S II HD LTE

but NOT the non-HD version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] treadlightly:
Next time check your sources.. press release is here:

Press Release

it isn't just the LTE HD. Engadget made a mistake.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Lucidmike:
I did check my sources. Engadget, and the link that the op posted that everyone points to, which by the way seems to have additional information that the updates are not "today" but later this week. You've done a good job finding another source. Maybe a better source. Get the difference?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] treadlightly:
Yes. When there is a suspect typo in an online blog maybe you should check to see if the official press release can provide some clarity.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] polish_pat:
just spoke to a level 2 rogers tech and he said ICS is rolling out on galaxy devices, he did say that he didnt know exactly when but said that the GS2 LTE was included in the press release samsung made 2 days ago and we will get update within a week
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mymusicathome:
I thought the Sammobile.com tar was just for AT&T... It works fine on the i727r?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727R
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
They have a rogers version, it says i727R
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] m4570d0n:
You're both wrong.

1) the endgadet article listed, quite clearly, both the GSII LTE and GSII LTE HD, among many others.

2) that same article also included the actual press release along with it as well. (as they always do)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] CZ Eddie:
Does anyone know if the "TODAY" is yesterday, today, tomorrow or some point in the near future? :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ckck543:
replacement phone comes in wednesday so i have a quick question. Can you still recieve Kies Upgrades if you are rooted but dont remove anything? LIke just root it and be able to use root apps without removing bloatware? :) thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TriC_101:
If you just used superoneclick to root then yes.. Kies will work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] phil9000:
The press release was issued by Samsung only. All it says is that the carriers will have access to the updates in the course of the next few days.

I find no undertaking from the carriers that they will release updates within the same time frame, if ever.

This is speculative but they may simply use the Samsung updates on new unsold phones and avoid the headache associated with releasing an update to the public. What incentive do they have in answering tons of support calls from people who are already using their product? What they want is to sell new phones by making them more appealing to buyers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JHK1984:
It's called Ethics.

No way they pull away from the updates now and ignore those complaint calls - that is the highway to ruining your brand image.

They are not that stupid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Sadly, I'm in agreement with you... I haven't seen any credible information about anyone getting the ICS update from rogers / bell etc. Again, I'm happy that I haven't returned my phone to bone stock in anticipation of the carriers, doing right by us!!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dahunt:
Good call.... No matter how many times I check there's still no update.:confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I guess it isn't "today" yet........
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, & there's some "jackelope" on the rogers community forums.. That's saying "a lady in Alberta got ics on wi- fi even though Kies told her that no update was available"... Yeah, sure.... ONE FREAKING LADY.... In ALBERTA...... :banghead::banghead:

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Also, as an FYI, kies doesn't care if your phone is Rooted, has all kinds of "root required" apps... So long as you have all of the rogers crap & it's not Frozen.. Your phone will be recognized & you'll be able to see your current software version & what version is available... So, as far as I can see.. You don't have to suffer with a bone stock, ugly a$$ touchwiz gingerbread.. Make me wanna puke experience... Until....?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cmbrown:
Yeah I heard that too about the woman in Alberta. I'm gonna assume that Samsung is going to be upgrading one device at a time. Hopefully starting in Alberta :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Hope you're not the "jackelope" :D

In which case, I offer my profound apologies :p

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Apparently the people who are with Bell Canada, are now getting the ICS update!! Edit: leaked document shows May 3rd.... So not today.. Maybe rogers tomorrow??

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/bell-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-upgrade-to-android-os-4-0-now-available/

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dahunt:
Dammit! What a bunch of "Jackalopes"! comon Rogers get your **** together!:mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dfube:
How different is the Bell one from the Rogers one? I'm waiting "patiently" for this update. Hopefully someone with Bell will get it soon and make a dump!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
So, now it's not just Bell that's getting ICS today.... It's also Virgin........ Looks like XDA might have to rely on one of those carriers to get a dump... :banghead:

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-upgrade-to-os-4-0-hitting-virgin-mobile-users-today/#com-head

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Just a sim & a plan.... :(

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] petrochemicals:
So Canada's Virgin and Bell SGS II's are being updated to ICS today.

MobileSyrup Virgin info - http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/03/s...0-hitting-virgin-mobile-users-today/#com-head

MobileSyrup Bell info - http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/bell-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-upgrade-to-android-os-4-0-now-available/

I did not see a word about the SGS II LTE in either article. So my question is, why does this concern us SGS II LTE users? I know the original press release from Samsung listed our phone as being ready for it's update in Canada but it does not look like the LTE version is getting it's update today. So why are we talking about phones we don't own for the last 2 pages?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Because Bell has the same phone & Bell is bringing the HD version today as well.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rezadue:
I thought Bell did not have the LTE version. ie. They have the S2 but not S2 LTE (skyrocket).

:confused:

http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II_4G_White
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
My Bad.... I was certain that Bell had released the very same phone a couple of months ago... None the less, according to MobileSyrup, Rogers is scheduled to be rolling out ICS update for the sgh - i727r SOON! I know that Kies (the tool we Canadians use to update software) was updated on the 1st....

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] petrochemicals:
Soon, yes. But the last 2 pages was a discussion on the press articles on MobileSyrup that were about the SGS II. Not the HD, not the LTE. Neither the Bell nor the Virgin SGS II updates are going to help us. I also did not see anything in the Bell article claiming the HD was being updated today so I am not sure why you thought that. Is there another article I am missing?

I dunno, maybe I am just aggravated that when I check back here to see if the LTE update has rolled, people are talking about phones updates that have nothing to do with ours nor help us in any way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, I hear you.... I think it's that the combination of too many variations of sglls, and reading stuff on the rogers community forums & MobileSyrup... You tend to rely on the questions that other people are asking, without checking the actual source..... :(

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] i727r:
Confirmed!

Bell GT9100M got upgrade today. Just upgraded my sons phone.

still waiting for Rogers i727r got the LTE
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] chris.broughton:
How did you get the update? Was it through Kies or OTA?

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] i727r:
Kies it noticed it immediately
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Cyotik:
Issues with Kies

Anyone have any issues with Kies? It's telling me "Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies." I'm using a Rogers i727, just flashed the i727R firmware from sammobile.com using Odin and then reset to factory from the stock recovery.

Kies shows Current firmware version: I727RUXKJ7/I727RRWCKJ7/I727RUXKJ7/I727RUXKJ7 (ATT)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
It's because there's no update for the sgh - i727r. :)

You are looking for the ICS update... Right.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Cyotik:
Yeah, I know it isn't out yet but I just reflashed stock to be ready for it. The wording of the error message made me worry that Kies wouldn't work with my phone even once the ICS update was available.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
No, it's just telling you that there's nothing new....

BTW, you can just key in your serial number & model number into Kies... Just don't connect the phone... I'm keeping mine as it is until :)

From what I can see, having the phone rooted but with a stock rom is all that Kies cares about.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
When we get back to stock, it would have to be Gingerbread not Ics right? To get the ics update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ckck543:
Yaa all the way back to stock gingerbread with all the bloat. If you freeze or delete any bloat kies won't recognize it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
Thanks, It would be this one right?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1342348

It has the Radio, ROM and Kernel, right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, I had to unfreeze some apps & reinstall some others (against my better judgment). But like I said, you can check kies without connecting your phone.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
could you please just post a quick steps how to do that there?

Like Setting/..... or where?

Really appreciate it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
use sammobile tar
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Sure.

I'd frozen all but one of the rogers apps with Titanium... Open Titanium & "thaw".

Reinstalled any deleted apps, such as Facebook.

I don't know what your setup is, so part of your question isn't clear to me... You're asking about Settings, but none of the changes that would affect Kies are in settings...?

If you can be more specific about what you are asking, I'll try & be more specific in my answer :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
Sorry, I was not clear.

I am ok on the ROM side, my question was where in Kies do you plug in the serial to check if update is available, like in which setting or tabs in Kies on PC.

I am asking as I have a Galaxy Tab. 10.1 and my Mom using it, so I don;t want to run it to stock(you know delete everything) and find out there is no update yet. It's hard to get a ROM for 4G version of it, there are some but not much, so I would just use the new ICS/Root and modify myself as much as I can, for now. As I heard the update is coming as we speak.

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Thanks:) but I wish I new what that was:)

Would you share a thread link, please
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
http://www.sammobile.com/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
If you open kies, along the top there's a Tools Tab.... Select it, about half way down there is;Firmware Upgrade and Initialisation.. Click it... Now because your phone is not connected, a window opens up where you can just enter your serial number & then just below the serial number you enter the model number Sgh-i727r... Because there is no update available, you'll get a message saying that the phone can't be updated.

IF YOUR PHONE is connected you just let kies determine that you have the latest version of the o/s...

If you don't know what a tar is... Then I'm pretty sure that your phone is pretty much stock.. Right?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
I see nice site. Thanks

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yep, that's what I needed.

I don't use Kies, it's very laggy.

Stoke? no....I am actually running a combination of Smoothie and Sky ICS.

I would not know what TAR is in definition, but yea I do know what it is for and how to use it. I am just want to make sure again I am doing things right, before I would do it.

I did not mean I don;t know what TAR is, I meant i have not heard of sammobile website.

Thanks for advice, I will install Kies right now and check.

With Galxy Tab, no I am not as good, as a GP-7500(4G) is not very popular, most people have GP-7510(WIFI) and also with Tab's 10.1there are so many software versions around the world for them, sometimes it's hard. Also it's not as simple to Root, and then install custom ROM, bootloader is a problem there it's not the same as Skyrocket flashing.

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Can't find the stock GB there, isn't it only new firmware?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
No it has the stock stuff
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
then I am just stupid, I guess. I'll look again at home, working right now, maybe that is why:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Myself and a whole bunch of people I've recommended it to have returned to stock with it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Do you have a CWM stock backup?

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