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[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Welcome to the S3 fold. Now, quickly- root and download CM9 nightly, it kicks serious glute...
[Motorola Atrix 2] mtnlion:
No lie there. Rocking the nightlies on my wifes gs3.really impressed!

Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Off topic, I know... but I just flashed the last nightly (20120816) and now my contacts are missing. Am I the only one? lol I guess I'll flash back to (20120816) and get that straightened out, with the CM Team gets that but straightened out -assuming I'm not alone here.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
No issues here, with 8/16 all my contact are where they should be too.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
I'll try a re-flash. Not exactly sure what's cause this, but I DL'd from my phone, moved to /sdcard and flashed that way. I'll attempt from my PC and see if something was amiss with my phone's DL...
[Motorola Atrix 2] mtnlion:
I see on the portal that I'll be switching to official cm10 nightlies. :thumbup: Any major bugs Jim?

Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yeah there are few bugs still lingering around. I would wait a couple more weeks. It is still considered a preview, and not really ready for full prime time yet.

Things like fc and reboots, and odd wifi issues, camera issues, radio issues, USB issues, sdcard issues... now not everyone has every issue, but just all these are reported issues and bugs, and I am sure there are others that I don't even know about yet.
[Motorola Atrix 2] beanboy89:
Considering a new phone. I currently have a Nexus One which I got about a year ago. I love the phone, but it's starting to show its age, the hardware is three years old. I want my next phone to be something dual-core and with a higher-resolution screen. I've been seeing Atrix 2s for sale for right around $200, which is right around what I want to spend. I'm not quite ready to buy something new yet (I'm in the process of building a new PC at the moment); I'm in an exploration stage. The Atrix 2 seems to have pretty solid specs and with ICS coming, it seems to be a pretty decent choice for the price. I'd love a One X or Galaxy S III, but I don't want to extend out my contract or spend a ton outright.
[Motorola Atrix 2] gabo_e30:
Its a great phone. The one major difference with nexus devices is the ATRIX has a locked bootloader so it only has a few ROMs available.

If ur a noob and can live with the stock gingerbread for a lil longer than absolutely go for it. Build quality is great, great call quality, good speaker, really good screen that is qHD ( less resolution than gs3 or HTC one x, but its still nice).

Mine runs smooth even with gingerbread. I can't imagine how smooth and awesome it'll be with ics .... can't wait.

The ATRIX 2 is a wolf in sheep clothing... that can't figure out how to get out if the sheep clothing...

The best thing about this phone are the devs in this community and the hard work they put into this phone.
[Motorola Atrix 2] W1nTry:
The Atrix 2 is great phone, it's my second Android based phone and i've had few complaints to date. I'm still stock (as I am overly cautious to void my warranty atm) and waiting on the ICS update from motorola. If I had to make 2 less than positive remarks, it would be the slow updates on motorola part (which is null if you use a custom good rom) and that my wifi can be iffy at times. Otherwise it was a great alternative at an excellent price vs. the other phone I was interested in the SGS2. I'd advise getting the otterbox commuter case if you do decide on this great phone.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jeffdaman:
The atrix 2 was a bug nightmare. My single core inspire 4g was faster in benchmarks. It has a problem with it's SD card interface that I would bet 80% of users encountered. Find a galaxy s2 on Craigslist. They're hard to find because the're a much better product and the users aren't trying to get rid of them. I bought a 3 month old atrix 2 for $150 bucks because the owner got tired of trying to find a solution to the problem.
[Motorola Atrix 2] beanboy89:
Would the SD card problems be something that would be fixed in the ICS update? Also, the phone also has 8 GB of onboard storage. I have never used up more than a few hundred MB on any phones that I've used. I don't think I'd even need an SD card with that much onboard storage.

I'd love to get a Galaxy S II, but it seems like I'd be stepping sideways from my Nexus One from a screen resolution standpoint. I want something with a screen resolution higher than 800x480 for web browsing.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
The 8GB or well actually it is only 4GB of "onboard" is really only for apps, and you can not put music or anything on the internal.. You still need an sdcard. and the SDcard issues are not fixed in ICS.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jeffdaman:
I've never used this phone (an HTC Vivid) but it has the specs you're looking for. And I really liked Sense. If it weren't for the weak plastic volume keys that keep falling off I think I would have had one of these.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_vivid-4302.php
[Motorola Atrix 2] Silas0220:
I'm going through a warranty replacement procedure right now for issues I'm convinced at AT&T's fault. That said, it may come soon that I'm asked to move on to a different phone. If they're going to give it to me for free, who am I to complain? The likely choices that I would have available (and that I would be interested in) are the HTC One X, the Atrix HD, and the Sony Xperia Ion. I'm worried about no root on the One X so far, but otherwise am leaning to it. The Ion is a very interesting phone, but I fear it's just not on par with the others. And the Atrix HD is locked down so much...

Thoughts?
[Motorola Atrix 2] StrizzMatik:
I'll say it again: for the value and the versatility as well as the most up-to-date software, you really can't go wrong with a GSM Galaxy Nexus for $350, carrier and bootloader unlocked. If you keep it stock you have the best OS available on the market and guaranteed OTA updates from Google for at least another year, possibly two, and if you unlock the bootloader you gain access to the biggest and arguably best dev community of any Android phone. And it certainly doesn't hurt to be able to jump carrier to carrier without having to sign contracts. Compared to the USA variants of the SGS3 the performance/hardware difference is negligible when you factor in Project Butter, and personally I like that there are no hardware buttons on the face of the phone. Then again someone using a rooted/unlocked SGS3 has access to much of the premiere 4.1.1 ROMs available on the GNex, so it's really a matter of software versus hardware, and the $$ factor... if I were to get a SGS3 I would go balls out and get the international GSM with the quad core :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] Silas0220:
That's all dandy, but I'm talking about AT&T sending me a phone for free. If they'll send me a GNexus, I'll take it before anything else, gladly. I'm more than well aware of the benefits of a Nexus, the Galaxy Nexus in particular. I do not, however, have $350 to spare. What I'm looking to know at this point is, if they offer me a free phone, which of those three is my best bet and why. I've seen all the reviews and such, but I'm very curious for the views of this community.
[Motorola Atrix 2] KEB64:
I prefer the Xperia Ion over the Atrix 2. Overall performance, interface, screen, hardware... Once the Ion gets ICS it should be fantastic. Sony knows how to put together a nice phone these days in my opinion. You have a 30 day demo with AT&T. Why not give it a try?

Sent from my LT28at
[Motorola Atrix 2] Silas0220:
I'm not sure the demo thing would apply to me, since I'd be getting it through the warranty dept. I'm concerned that whatever phone they give me will be my last for awhile, I don't think they'll be overly happy with me :D. SO it concerns me, just a little bit, that the Ion is on hardware that's a generation removed from what's coming out now. Shouldn't be an issue at all, but it's still there :).
[Motorola Atrix 2] KEB64:
The Ion is not a generation behind in hardware. Where did you get that notion?

Sent from my LT28at
[Motorola Atrix 2] Silas0220:
Well, it has the last gen snapdragon processor. That's not really something worth worrying about though, I suppose. Still better hardware than the A2.
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
Moving on...

Well gang, my wife was kind enough to somehow fry her HTC Inspire on Friday. I spent the next day or two just trying to get it to boot, but unfortunately based on everything I read about its symptoms (flashing amber light and vibrate 3 times, no screen activity), my belief is somehow she either cooked it by letting it overheat in her pocket, or killed it so effectively with a dead battery or moisture from her job (she's a nurse), that I could not revive it at all (of course she said she didn't do anything like that).

Needless to say, thanks to the hierarchical nature of how I have things setup with phones at home, I am now the proud owner of the Samsung Galaxy Note, while she has inherited my Atrix2 with Team Shogun 1.2 ICS on it. I most likely will not be pursuing changing her phone as much as I did when it was mine, but I wanted to thank you all for your wisdom and experience. I will still be lurking, but definitely not as active as I was.

Just so you all know, the Note comes stock with GB, with an ICS official available through their desktop Kies software, which I had completed that evening after getting it (and rooted). Though there is an official CM10 nightly available for it, I am holding off until they polish that apple a bit more as well. It is an LTE phone, though due to no LTE coverage in my area (we barely have 3G in some spots), I had to add a new APN (thanks to XDA) to get 3G/4G. Other than that, its an awesome phablet! Yes, I know the Note2 is about to be released, but my plan is to fiddle and tweak this thing until I am up for an upgrade in June, when I will get that and hand this off to wifey again. See how that works?

EDIT: Just want to give you guys some more input on the G-Note. In my almost 2 weeks of playing with it now, I am running the fantastic Paranoid Android JB ROM, recently updated to JB 4.1.2 thanks to an awesome developer community. Once again, if anyone is in the market for a sweet phone, regardless of it being "last year's" technology, the Note is a fantastic option. Bigger really is better. Any questions about the device, let me know!

Anyhoo... be well, be happy, be healthy, and be safe!

-cw
[Motorola Atrix 2] Kronosthelordoftime:
This is old but does anyone have any opinions on the new Nexus devices (Nexus 4 and Nexus 10)? I'm thinking of saving up money for one and would like to know if either has any problems. Thanks
[Motorola Atrix 2] Scottyfer:
I'm jumping to the nexus 4 when it releases. Already have mine preordered. The only downside I've seen is lack of lte, which doesn't deter me at all.
[Motorola Atrix 2] duchski:
Why is this even in ATRIX 2 forum?
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Because MD has allowed it... :rolleyes:

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[Motorola Atrix 2] Faiz Malkani:
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[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Just because we all have this phone, does not mean we all HAVE to like it. I am one of the devs in here, and I still stick around and work on this phone, even after I got an SGS 3, because I like group in here. I will tell you though that the support from Motorola on this phone has been abysmal, and the fact that the bootloader is locked, makes lots of us want other phones with unlocked bootloaders and the ability to flash more and better roms. That is the reason this one thread was opened, so that this can be talked about in here, and not in 500 new threads about which phone should I get next, so that I can flash some bad ass roms &/ kernels.

From this and your other posts in here, it seems you like to fly the Motorola flag pretty high.... but in this form Motorola is the enemy, as they have thwarted several hacks I have done and even squashed several bootloader unlock attempts where I have nearly cracked the bootloader, only to have a patch released shortly after the attempts, that stopped that.
[Motorola Atrix 2] duchski:
'Fcourse not. But don't you think this unrelated to ATRIX 2 thread should be in a general android forum instead?

This thread is offensive to all those still on ATRIX 2 as it implies imminent lack of support since even the devs are talking about changing phones. We would not let this c**p in ATRIX RG forum.maybe thats why there is so much support for this phone....
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
No, because people still post a thousand threads titled what phone should I get next in the general and qa section in here. Our Moderator created this thread to combat all those posts. Our MODS in here are amazing, get to know them, they care a lot about, handle, and take a whole lot of crap in here. We are not a typical group in here.

I suggest you watch a learn for a short while while you adjust in here, we really are a great group and have done amazing things with how locked down this phone is. Once you learn the difference in here, then try and contribute.

I also did not dump my A2, and I still do plenty of dev work in here. I just have an sgs3 so I can have and dev completely custom roms and kernels, like most on xda I am a flashaholic.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Do you even own an Atrix 2, or are you in this forum simply to troll about? As Jim explained (now for the second time), this thread was posted by one of the moderators for a purpose, which it serves. I also have the SGSIII, the HTC One S, along with my Atrix 2 that I kept after upgrading to the SGSIII.

The reason I've held on to the A2 is because despite the drawbacks of being locked down, it's still a great phone. I use it daily, and for some of my own dev work. However innocuous your argument about whether this thread should exist or not, it isn't the discussion to be had. If you don't like it, take it up with Moscow Desire - I'm sure he'd love to hear your opinions. Now, please stay on topic if you choose to post here.

Also, you're the only person I've ever seen here who's found "offense" by this thread, and judging by your profile and the cross-posts in the sub-forums, you don't own this device, only the Atrix 4G and the Moto Cliq. So what's the point in coming in here and shaking a beehive?

Sent from my Atari Falcon 030
[Motorola Atrix 2] Nikschavan:
Atrix 2 or HTC one v

hey guys,

i am about buy a phone in few weeks, i was thinking Atrix 2/HTC one V both are about same price here in india. but Atrix 2 has better hardware.

I Really like Atrix 2 because of larger display, better processor, more RAM, i dont know which GPU is better among both, but the fact that Motorola has stopped updates to this device, and they are not releasing JB update for it makes me wonder should i buy One V or Atrix 2.

As CM10 can be installed on Atrix 2 practically we can run JB on this handset?

Should i go for Atrix 2 or One V? or any other recommendations?

Thanks,

Nikhil
[Motorola Atrix 2] Axis_Drummer:
Out of the two, I'd go with the A2. Its a damn good phone for the money. Good specs. Nice camera. And yes CM10! Also I love my A2, so if you're on a budget, I'd recommend it. Just my opinion.

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[Motorola Atrix 2] anikadam:
hey buddy, My cousin here is in the same dilemma and even though i have convinced him enough to buy the atrix 2 with JB available already and all, i just checked out the One V forum and it has an unlocked bootloader, so a bigger dev scene, paranoid android, pac man rom and as such.. I told him about all that and now hes even more confused, now i dunno much about one v and dont really have time to research till sunday, and hes buyin the phone tommorow..

what i wanted to know is that, even though it has a decent build and unlocked bootloader, it takes a hit in the hardware department.. smaller screen, 512 mb ram, 4GB internal storage, sealed battery, single core, 5mp camera, no hdmi and no gyroscope like the A2, so no photosphere photos either. with rooting most issues can be solved but then hes gonna use it stock non-rooted for maybe 6mo or more..

SO, may i ask what have you decided ?? did you buy one ? At what price are you getting both ? maybe a pros and cons list for one v.. And what about the Xperia Ray ?? any ideas ?? stock unrooted One V reviews ??

i saw the A2 for Rs.18k on flipkart and snapdeal..and around 17k for one v

Sorry for so many questions :silly:
[Motorola Atrix 2] Nikschavan:
hey thanks for your reply,

just one question, is locked bootloader on atrix 2 an issue to be considered for deciding between other phones? i dont have much idea about all ROM's available for this phone but what would you say about development for atrix 2 by xda-devs ?

---------- Post added at 02:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:05 PM ----------

I like atrix 2 more than one v, for its price no other phone has a dual core processor and 1 gb ram 4.3" screen.

But i am just worried because of it is not getting future updates and unlocked bootloader, it might feel like getting left behind when newer android versions are out.

Now i am going to wait until this month end as HTC has some upcoming phones my exams are also going on ), i read somewhere their prices will be declared in November last week. i will see if any of them comes into my budget. Then i will decide about it.

Keep me posted what your cousin decides.

Nikhil
[Motorola Atrix 2] Axis_Drummer:
Well, the locked bootloader definitely sucks. Without an unlocked bootloader, we can't flash kernels and we have limited ROMs.

But we do have CM10, and that's the shiz for sure. As far as what I think about the devs and their work... I couldn't ask for a harder working, more determined team than the guys on this forum. We have great ROMs, great Devs and a great community here.

And honestly, I've never worried about the bootloader being locked because of the work they've done for us already. Its perfect enough for me. Just my humble opinion.

Sent from my MB865 running a beastly CM10

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[Motorola Atrix 2] hankbizzo5:
Note 2 is looking to be a real beast of a device..... Thinking come tax time unless something better comes long it is so long A2 hello note 2.....
[Motorola Atrix 2] NeoMeir:
Sony has a new quad core coming out next year. I hear their camera Hardware is great. Anyone hear anything else around the mill?
[Motorola Atrix 2] CapnPez:
Has anyone on AT&T considered the LG Optimus G? I won't be able to steal my wife's upgrade for a few more weeks yet :), so I'm weighing the options currently available. I'm not really leaning one way or another, but I've recently become interested in the Optimus G. I had been thinking about the Atrix HD since I like having both a usb and hdmi output (use hdmi out and usb host at the same time). However, I don't expect to use that functionality a whole lot (also, does the LG Optimus G have the 5-pin or 11-pin like the GS3?).

Like most of you, I look for a device that has good specs while under $200 (under contract). I like the screen size of the Optimus G, One X+, SGS3, etc. I get the feeling that LG doesn't have a great reputation for the highest of the highest end devices, perhaps this is a good one? What other phones should be considered in the next month? Even though the SGS3 is "older", is it still on top of a lot of people's list? Camera is important to me. I don't necessarily need the most amazing image quality, but I want it to capture quickly (we just had our 2nd child last Friday, so I want to be able to capture the precious moments before they're gone). Also, while I would like good battery life, I'm usually not far from a desk or charger (my Atrix 2 sits in my car dock at least an hour a day during my commute). Finally, while I enjoy modifying my phone, I can survive with just root (I'm still pretty happy with the Atrix 2, but "boys and their toys"...). I don't necessarily need the ability to flash a new ROM every other day, but the option is nice.

As you can see, my criteria are rather vague... :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
I still can not say enough good things about the SGS3, and I have had no issues now 5 months later. It still has the best hardware hands down. NFC has become a must for me, now that that I have it with the SGS3. The amount of ROMs for this thing is crazy there are more stock and opensource (aosp, aokp, CM10, MM, etc...) ROMS, to count.

I am still on CM10, as cyanogenmod has been my favorite since the 5.0 days. Battery life is great. You can get a dock or two for the SGS3 as well. I have the desk dock for mine, and it sits in the dock while I work at my desk, just like the A2 did/does.

HDMI works well, I have tested it a couple times, it is not really my thing with a phone. I would rather copy anything I need to my HTPC and watch it on my 126" HD home theater screen (front projection from a JVC RS20U).
[Motorola Atrix 2] golastic:
will go in got atrix 2 since tat's what am using......lol
[Motorola Atrix 2] tchsvy:
Lost my A2 recently, the next thing I see in forums, is the JB leak, yeah that hurts! :P

So, I am into market now, but not sure what I should get, considering LG Optimus L9, the same chipset as A2 but with bigger display this is on the lower side and then on the extreme my heart says to wait for Sony Xperia Z/ZL.. I know, they are worlds apart!

But my question is with no announcement from LG on L9 JB update, and with XDA just adding the forums for L9, not sure with the CM and other ROM possibilities on L9, anyone with any info? or should I simply wait for Z/ZL or is there something I am missing in here?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
I would not get a sony or an LG, since bootloaders are still locked. Sony has a better chance of unlocking via the web, but there is no guarantee there.

Much better to find a phone with an unlocked bootloader after this phone. Something like a Nexus (Galaxy or Nexus 4), or a Samsung SGS3 international version perhaps the i9300. I still think the SGS3 beats most phones hands down even though it is 6 months old. They packed so much into the version I have that it will be a while before something beats it. And the thing is the bootloader is unlocked out of the box.
[Motorola Atrix 2] tchsvy:
Thanks for the reply Jim, Yeah SGSIII is one amazing piece of engineering. If Nexus 4 was available here in India, I wouldn't even ask the question here ;) sadly it isn't here yet *Officially*, Then comes the Note II, phablets are not everyone's cup of tea. So, I might end up with SGSIII finally, only thing that goes against it is the news that it's dying all of a sudden.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Be careful with what you hear, and read. Myself and many others have had to fry the phone if something bad happens, so that you can not see the root and "un-supported software" counter, so Sammy is worried about all the "dead" phones they are getting back. I had a buddy that got into the same issue I did with my first one, in that you get into a hung state and can not get into CWM recovery and when you try to return to a stock image with root, it just bootloops and shows the unsupported software download screen... so the phone needs to get fried by you, and there are a lot of people doing that so they can get warranty support... I know, I know, but.. they are almost all self inflicted. I have not had one single "real" issue with my sgs3, which I did not cause. And yes it is 100% unlocked, just be careful to follow steps as laid out and you will not have issues.
[Motorola Atrix 2] tchsvy:
:good: Thanks for the insight Jim, SGSIII it is then.. see ya soon in SGSIII forums then, iA... :cool: