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[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
U are confused right?

i was also confused between meizu pro 5 and samsung galaxy s6...

to be honest if u go with the hardware the meizu pro 5 wins...

it has better camera,processor,more ram...

if u go with development then both lack behind...both have very less custom stuff out there...

if u ask me i will tell u to buy meizu pro 5 its a beast which is in a silent mode these days it will be like having a powerhouse of performance and media in ur pocket...

if u want some fame in ur pocket then go with lg g flex 2...

its my personal opinion...
[General Topics] SirVer:
To be honest, if the Meizu Pro 5 is in your budget, there's little reason to get anything else, as nothing else even comes close in terms of performance and build quality when considered together. The only two problems you might have with it are:

1. USB C, which is the standard that everyone is switching to, but as of now, is not very widespread, which will probably prove to be something of an annoyance for you.

2. Custom ROMs and after market development will probably be close to non-existent. You would probably be able to root it somehow it the other, but anything beyond that will likely not be possible.

If these are not problems for you, then go for the Meizu.
[General Topics] PhTcB73:
I'm looking at either the BLU Vivo IV 5.5mm, or the BLU Vivo Air LTE 5.1mm,

I just love the super thin design of them both.

What I'm not sure about are the Chipset/CPU & GPU.. I've read quite a bit about them both & I'm still not quite sure what is better!? lol

Q: Which phone is better/faster?

Specs:

BLU Vivo IV. MAY 2014. NOW $250.

Size: 5.0 inches. BETTER!

Resolution: Super AMOLED, 1080 x 1920 pixels (441 ppi). BETTER!

Chipset: Mediatek MT6592. NOT SURE?

CPU: Octa-core 1.7 GHz Cortex-A7. NOT SURE?

GPU: Mali-450MP4. NOT SURE?

Memory: 16 GB, 2 GB RAM. SAME.

Camera: 13MP/5MP. BETTER!

Battery: 2300 mAh. BETTER!

BLU Vivo Air LTE. SEP 2015. NOW $150.

Size: 4.8 inches. WORSE!

Resolution: AMOLED, 720 x 1280 pixels (306 ppi). WORSE!

Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410. NOT SURE?

CPU: Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53. NOT SURE?

GPU: Adreno 306. NOT SURE?

Memory: 16 GB, 2 GB RAM. SAME.

Camera: 8MP/5MP. WORSE!

Battery: 2050 mAh. WORSE!

Use: I'll be using the phone for calls (1-2 a week), light gaming, would like good graphics/FPS, & using as a security device for two step authentication for online accounts etc.

Thanks for the help, Phil B.
[General Topics] SirVer:
For your purposes, the first one (the 5 inch one) would probably be better, but development for the device would probably be sparse (if there even is any), on account of it having a MediaTek chipset. That's not a guarantee that the other one WILL have it, mind you, but it's far more likely, since it has a Snapdragon SoC.
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
I would go with the first one. Even though it is 1 year older but has super amoled. I Couldn't tell you a huge difference in performance between these phones. Because they both have different resolutions. But first one is mediatek I'm not sure how it performs. So 50:50. First one looks better. BUT this second phone is actually newier and I bet processor is newier too. So idk but Qualcomm is just quad core. Hard to tell bruh.

Also there is actually hard to tell anything about good graphics/good fps in cheap phones. On the first one phone graphics will look better. But not sure how it will perform.
[General Topics] thecuriousmate:
Nexus from Nokia
[General Topics] Planterz:
The what now?
[General Topics] Skalofrio12:
Mine is Nexus 6P
[General Topics] vlahmapoutras:
Thanks for the replies.What if the contestants were Meizu Pro 5 32gb vs LG G4 32gb?
[General Topics] SirVer:
Depends on what matters more to you. G4 display and camera are superior to the Pro 5, but overall, the Pro 5 beats the G4 (and has a fingerprint scanner to boot). Of course, the previously mentioned problems with USB C and custom development are still present for the Meizu, and not applicable to the G4.
[General Topics] jmb995:
Hey there guys, I'm thinking on buying a smartphone(budget 200€ and if it's a exceptional one 230€), but i can't decide, 'cause I really want a smartphone with a fingerprint id. I found(some don't have the fingerprint id but they seem really good, that's why haven't decided):

Cubot X17

Cubot S600

is cubot a good chinese manufacturer, or at least reliable?

Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 ( heard that now bootloader will be locked so bummer)

Asus Zenfone 2

Asus Zenfone Selfie

UMI Iron Pro

I'm searching for a good overall in budget, so can you guys help me pick one, or could you suggest another?

(5/8MP Front camera with good reviews about the quality, at least 13MP rear, at least 2GB RAM, 16 ROM and 1.3 GHZ CPU, and with fingerprint if it's possible)

EDIT:

And must be android 5.0(lollipop)+
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
i dont trust chinese manufacturers like cubot or umi but yes xiaomi is a trusted one with a good develepor support...

go with xiaomi...

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letv le one pro,letv le 1s,meizu mx4 pro and meizu mx5,zte nubia z9 max and mini,infocus m810,xiaomi mi4,moto x play,moto g 3rd gen...
[General Topics] jmb995:
Thanks for the help [MENTION=6809865]Cyanandroid[/MENTION] , I've been searching the phones and realize that asus zenfone 2 is off budget, and the ones that u sugested that are on budget are:

LeTV 1S found some xda suport

ZTE NUBIA Z9 MINI found some xda suport

INFOCUS M810 found some xda suport bad, only 1 4g band

xiaomi mi4c and xiaomi phones only have 2 bands, xda support

I really liked the inFocus M810 but it only has one 4g band that is used by networks here in portugal

About the Xiomi, isn't the locking of boatloader bad for development?

Another question is, some of the phones presented, only have 2 bands used by the networks here,(they use 3). is that a bad thing?

Liked a lot of the ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini, but its a little bit of budget, is it worth the price?
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
zte nubia z9 max is also there but i think the mini version is still a good buy...

and dont worry about locked bootloaders of xiaomi as u can unlock them and root them using this xiaomi tool http://xdaforums.com/mi-4/orig-development/xiaomitool-win-unix-t2860973...

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and xiaomi is one amongst the most developed companies and many develepors are working there for xiaomi phones...
[General Topics] jmb995:
So what do you think then, Xiaomi mi4c or Xiaomi Redmi Note 3?

and what about the 4G network bands, will that be a problem?

EDIT:

Has to be the Xiaomi Mi 4C cause the CPU from the Note 3 is not suported right?
[General Topics] obscuresword:
He decided to get a new phone. He bought a Blu Energy X Plus due to its large battery. My brother also said that he will wait until screen prices drop more before fixing his Nexus 6. I inspected the Note 3 and only the parts mentioned above were damaged. His wife told me that the phone was actually charging in the bathroom lol. I'm thinking one of my nieces got water on it and didn't say anything.

Sent from my LG-LS740 usplasric Free mobile app
[General Topics] tmontney:
I have an S5 with AT&T. I'm not pleased with the S5's performance. When I got it in July, it was fantastic. Around November, it just tanked. It randomly soft resets, freezes up, odd issues with the GUI (in order to call anyone, you have to place a call twice as the first one immediately closes out the call app). I blame the forced software updates, although I can't say I've found anyone else with the issue (and now the last few days "Video" will randomly say it stopped working, so oh boy I can imagine what else is next). On top of that, it doesn't appear anywhere it can be rooted, at least not with AT&T (odds are I'll be stuck with AT&T for a while).

I liked the Nexus 6P, but it's only available through Google (i.e. no upgrade discount). I liked the latest Lumina XL (specifically for Continuum), but I know its still flaky (weak app support, buggy). What phone would you recommend me? I can say I don't want an iPhone. I'd really like to be able to root it, so possibly HTC? I work pretty much exclusively with Windows devices, am part developer part desktop technician (part networking guy, and like everything else). I'm not afraid of "more complicated interfaces" or advanced options (e.g. iPhone vs Android).

Thinking about it, the phone doesn't necessarily have to be an AT&T upgrade only. Requiring that really limits my options.
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Before buying a new phone have you tried downgrading it back to the original software before it updated?
[General Topics] tmontney:
I haven't, but that's more of a workaround than a solution. Someone in my family said they'd take my old phone (since they don't have a smartphone at all), so it's another reason to upgrade.
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
bro plz check the bands before u buy...

both are good phones...

but redmi note 3 has an fingerprint Sensor too...

performance will be similar in both phones...
[General Topics] SirVer:
I hate to go directly contrary to others, but please, DO worry about the locked bootloader: unlocking it is a pretty complicated process, relatively speaking, especially the part where you request the code; the interface is, at the time of this writing, in Chinese only, requiring Google Translate to even use it, you must provide a reason for wanting to unlock the bootloader, and each request is manually processed by the dev team, and will take 7 - 21 days to go through (IF it goes through). That's a lot of hoops to jump through for a modification on a device that you've already PAID for.

In your original list, you mentioned the UMI Iron Pro: it has everything you're looking for, and the company actively supports development for it; in fact, they host some ROMs on their own website, along with the software to flash them (called RootJoy, if I remember correctly). I don't know,if they've done this with the Iron Pro yet, but it seems likely that they will.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Unlocking a phone to use a different carrier is completely different than unlocking the bootloader

"And on that bombshell!" Sent from my G928C Rockin Audax Rom+ and Eladios themes
[General Topics] SirVer:
I... I never said anything about carrier unlocking. These are Xiaomi devices, they come carrier unlocked by default, anyway, so why would I be talking about that?
[General Topics] s8freak:
Because you're talking about bands and networks that's why. Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with networks or bands

"And on that bombshell!" Sent from my G928C Rockin Audax Rom+ and Eladios themes
[General Topics] SirVer:
That wasn't me. That was [MENTION=2238888]jmb995[/MENTION]. And maybe [MENTION=6809865]Cyanandroid[/MENTION].
[General Topics] s8freak:
Here's your post again unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with network or bands

"And on that bombshell!" Sent from my G928C Rockin Audax Rom+ and Eladios themes
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
yes that was me talking about bootloaders but u guys linked bootloader with the bands and carriers, we were just talking about bootloader in general...
[General Topics] SirVer:
I say again, I said NOTHING about carriers or bands; go back and read my my posts if you like. I only talked about unlocking the bootloader.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Unlocking the bootloader allows for root and custom recovery.

I just didn't want any confusion about the bootloader.

Carry on

"And on that bombshell!" Sent from my G928C Rockin Audax Rom+ and Eladios themes
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
[MENTION=2238888]jmb995[/MENTION] told me about the locked bootloader of xiaomi phones...then in general i told him that he can unlock it...
[General Topics] s8freak:
And you were quoting the other guy about networks and bands

Look no biggie alright

"And on that bombshell!" Sent from my G928C Rockin Audax Rom+ and Eladios themes

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Cool beans

"And on that bombshell!" Sent from my G928C Rockin Audax Rom+ and Eladios themes
[General Topics] josip-k:
Guys, a question, oneplus one or S5?
[General Topics] Mokiwipeout:
By all means 1+1.

Unless the s5 is much cheaper than 1+1
[General Topics] josip-k:
They are about the same price range in my country, i already own an OPO.
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
check which one is newier and which one has better specs. OPO has better xda support but s5 has it too.
[General Topics] SirVer:
If you already have an OPO, why are you looking at devices with the same specs? Did it get damaged?
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
specs are not same as samsung s5 is having 16 mp camera with 2.1 mp front camera...

ram is also a difference s5 is having 2 gb while opo 3gb

s5 is having an ir blaster, fingerprint sensor also heart rate sensor too...

now decide which is better...

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how to unlike an post in tapatalk???
[General Topics] SirVer:
Huh. I thought the S5 had 3 GB of RAM. And I forgot about the camera. My bad.

Well, in this case, the features are better, but the performance would be a downgrade, because Touchwiz + less RAM. I think we need more info on what his use case and needs are to make a proper recommendation.

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Tap the thumbs up button again.
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
thumbs button does nothing once liked...
[General Topics] SirVer:
Huh. That used to work...
[General Topics] javed313pk:
samsung note 4
[General Topics] dysfunkshun:
Got an LG V10, to be specific this is my 3rd one, and I'm sick of the poor WiFi on it. I've done build.prop edits and they work temporarily, but it always goes right back to slow.

I'm looking at either the Motorola X Pure or the Nexus 6P. While I like having the sd card, I'm not too sure how much I actually need it. My main use for it right now is for TWRP backups. I'm not as crazy as before in regards to flashing, I like simple stock rooted with xposed now and that's about it. I like the fingerprint scanner on the 6P, but again, I'm not sure how much I'd use it. V10 was my first, and I don't use it much because it doesn't work. I'm not huge on cameras as I don't take a lot of fancy pictures, I leave it on auto, point and shoot.

What's the general consensus between these 2?
[General Topics] SirVer:
The way I see it, the Moto X has three things over the 6P:

1. MicroSD

2. The fact that it's not using the SD810. Yes, the 6P is supposed to have solved those issues, but reports are still somewhat inconsistent as to whether that's true, so...

3. It was released on Lollipop, which means you'll always have an LP build to fall back to if MM gets too restrictive for you. I have no idea how well Xposed works on MM, but I'm going to assume not as well as LP.

If these are not problems for you, 6P all the way.
[General Topics] tmontney:
Anyone have a suggestion for me? I'm coming from an Galaxy S5 and I'm on AT&T. I want to be able to root my phone.
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
Price range? Specs range? Camera quality range? any aditonal requirements like SD card/removable battery?
[General Topics] wiswis:
Get the oneplus 2. It's cheap and a good phone.
[General Topics] tmontney:
Granted I can't have it all, best blend of everything. I don't really need the best camera. Prefer a removable battery and SD card expansion. Highest priority is customization, like rooting, and speed. Price isn't an issue.
[General Topics] Hussein Alwr:
My wish is not too distant , Bluboo XTouch ^^

Albeit of brand , Samsung Galaxy Note 3 .
[General Topics] obscuresword:
LG G4 or V10 perhaps?
[General Topics] jmb995:
Hey [MENTION=6809865]Cyanandroid[/MENTION] about the network bands I was telling you, the carriers here in my country use 3 and most Xiaomis phones have only 2 of those three, is that something to worry about?

And about the boatloader unlock, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 has a MTK cpu and on the post to unlock the boatload it says "MTK devices aren't / won't be supported", the Xiaomi Mi 4C isn't, and what about what [MENTION=5938633]SirVer[/MENTION] said, that it was released the news a few days ago that the boatload will be locked from now on, and to get it unlocked it will be a pain in the ass and maybe can't even do that. [MENTION=5938633]SirVer[/MENTION], about the UMI Iron Pro, I read some reviews and it says that the support from the company it's not very good at the moment, what should I hope for?
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
i will suggest u to buy oneplus one it comes bootloader unlocked and has fantastic develepor support...

And dont knw why u are talking about bootloader again and again???

what u want to do???

root,install custom recovery???

bootloader has nothing to do with carriers and networks and if u want some pain in the #$@ as u talking about bootloaders then u can go with xiaomi otherwise oneplus one is a good buy...
[General Topics] tmontney:
The Bluboo looks awesome. I cannot complain at that price either.
[General Topics] jmb995:
Lol, I know that carriers and networks has nothing to do with the boatloader... I asked if the fact that the networks here use three bands I the phone is only compatible with two. that is point one.

Point 2, the boatloader is important to root install and recovery as you said, and Xiaomi will lock theirs, that's a recent news..

Was just talking about that...

About the Oneplus, I read that after some use it has a lot of problems...

If i'm being a pain in the ass asking this stuff sorry, If I seem someone who doesn't know sorry, just trying to understand and asking for a opinion..

Thank you [MENTION=6809865]Cyanandroid[/MENTION] ^^
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
i have oneplus one and using it from about 1 year and it is working very fine...

the develepor support is also very good...

yes if two bands are supported then there should be no problem...
[General Topics] jmb995:
xD, [MENTION=6809865]Cyanandroid[/MENTION] Oneplus One isn't on budget, the initial was 200€ that I stretched to 250€ found Oneplus One for 275€, can't do that :/
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
go to aliexpress.com there u will get it for less than 250€
[General Topics] jmb995:
Been searching and can't find :b, with shipping and VAT always lot more than 250€
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
xiaomi mi4c

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then nothing else fits ur criteria
[General Topics] jmb995:
xD, thank you, will probably go with Xiaomi Mi 4C, thanks you for the help [MENTION=6809865]Cyanandroid[/MENTION]
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
welcome bro...
[General Topics] SirVer:
Before finalizing it, I'd suggest using the GSMarena phone finder one more time to make sure you aren't missing something in your budget that has everything you need. You can either enter your price range, or just look for older phones that will have had their rates dropped by now.

Whatever you decide to get, good luck, and I hope it satisfies. [emoji106]
[General Topics] jmb995:
Since I will only order the smartphone on the beginning of February, I will keep searching till then xD fortunately that's how I am.

For now all points to Xiaomi Mi 4C, hope it doesn't change, UMI Iron Pro, ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini and Asus Zenfone 2, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 pro(the cpu isn't MTK) are the choices if it does ^^ and thank you for the help
[General Topics] Kamolot:
Hello

I'm a S4 mini user for over a year now using latest CM13 and happy with it. However i'm thinking of a new phone and i'm stuck for now with Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro - I'm just starting to read the threads i need to read and learn things that i need but i think it will be a great update to my actual phone. Is that a good choice?
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
Too hard to get it. Only with invites. Also it has very poor vibration motor. It is almost not noticeable.

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he was saying about xiaomi having locked bootloader now. Also some carriers locks bootloader by their own.

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check the right bands if it works in your country. Bands mostly mean how well will work your internet. If it has missing some bands then it might not work very well sometimes.
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
let it release first and have a check on its benchmarks too...

wait for some user opinions and reviews then finalize ur decision...

going with specs it will be a good upgrade...
[General Topics] Planterz:
You're replying to a 3+ year old post. I think he's made his decision by now.
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
wow 1 year in marshmallow already? nice, are you google employer?

kappa
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Almost everything is better on the Vivo IV (except the older OS, which may have already been updated by blu, including the CPU and GPU. I know benchmarks aren't everything, but the MT6592 has shown better scores in comparison to the Snapdragon 410. For example, in Geekbench the MT6592 scores about the same in single score tests as the Snapdragon 410, however, since it has 8 cores to work with it scores almost double in the multi core tests:

https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?utf8=✓&q=Blu+Vivo+IV

vs

https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?utf8=✓&q=Blu+Vivo+LTE

On the GPU side of things. The Mali-450 (MP4) scored more than double the fps when compared to the Adreno 306 in GFXBench's T-Rex Offscreen 1080p benchmark: https://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?ben...order=median&text-filter=Blu Vivo&base=device, however, in when switching to the on-screen benchmark the Adreno 306 does close the gap, but it still can't beat the Mali-450 (MP4): https://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?ben...&order=score&text-filter=Blu Vivo&base=device.

I'd say go for the Blu Vivo IV based on these results despite it being older.
[General Topics] Kamolot:
Using cm13 after it's release of course.
[General Topics] enjoymoosic:
Does anybody think selling my Galaxy Note 3 and getting the new Huawei Honor 5X a good idea?

I'd probably have to pay an extra $20-40 after selling my Note. I realize that it's probably a worse-spec'd phone in nearly every way, but I just kind of feel like a change of pace. Thanks!
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
note a good idea...

can u tell me why u want to sell and get the honor 5x...

i do not see any reason of upgrade as every thing is better in note 3...

whether its camera or the processor...

if u think that the touchwiz is laggy then u can try some custom roms which can make ur device speed up and more responsive...