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[General Topics] alabin77:
My choice would go to leeco le max 2. Great screen, powerful processor, big ram, high end camera all for $350+. Waiting for the grey color to be out.

Next would be nexus 6p. Uncompromised support and great specs.

For budget consideration the redmi note 3 is good all rounder. Though i hate miui.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
For the 350$ i would go for a Nexus 6 or LG G4.
[General Topics] jaris93:
Hey guys,

looking to purchase a decent phone under $300.

My main requirements would be good battery life,camera and processor. Anything extra such as NFC and fingerprint would be an added bonus :)

I was looking at the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 pro which seems to be a very good phone for its price, however it seems to lack in the camera department. I am not sure if it is still worth purchasing.

I then found out about the Lenovo Zuk Z1, which seems to have the entire package, but Im not sure if it is worth purchasing the Snapdragon 801 processor at this moment.

Any advice or recommendations of another phone would be highly appreciated :D
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
In "my opinion" every phone with a Snapdragon 8xx is worth even in 2016 or next year , they still do a great job in both CPU and GPU department. For 300$ as i always suggest you can have the Nexus 6 , LG G4/G3 , Nexus 5X , OneplusOne.

Only the 5x have fingerprint scanner thought.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Does the Z1 have a better camera than the Redmi Note 3? Where did you hear that?

Those, and the Nexus 6, have the biggest batteries in their price range, and so the best battery life, but the cameras may not be up to the mark. The G3 has a very good camera (considering its age), but not very good battery life. I don't remember, where I read it, but I heard the Nexus 6's camera was disappointing when it came out; you should wait until one of the N6 owners around here can tell you how it is (@Planterz, I summon thee!).

Looks like your best options would be the ZUK Z1 and Nexus 6. Be warned though, I've heard that Z1 has some issues, like heating and fingerprint sensor reliability - I don't know how valid these are, because an SD801 overheating with a 1080p screen seems odd to me, but it's something to keep in mind. I suggest reading the GSMArena review, if you haven't already.
[General Topics] zelendel:
The camera on the nexus 6 is fine. One small detail people forget is that 99% of the diff in camera is software and not hardware. Nexus cameras always seem to be below because people just them on the stock camera software which is not really fair as with all nexus devices are just a building block. Someone could easily build camera software that would beat out every device on the market but people are just lazy and dont.

My nexus 6 works great and I can easily get 2 days on the battery. Mind you I am also not one of those that worries about SOT as I have a life and dont spend my whole day with my face buried in a phone. So on average I only use maybe 1 or 2 hours of SOT.
[General Topics] SirVer:
I see. I've never used a Nexus 6, so I don't really know, but I'll take your word for it.

As for the battery... Coming from someone who does spend their day buried in a phone, the 3000 mAh battery of the G3 doesn't last more than 4 hours on heavy use. I normally wouldn't expect 3200 mAh to last longer, but seeing as it's an AMOLED, while the G3 has an older and less efficient IPS panel, it very well could.

P.S. No, I don't have a life. I do have an internet connection, which is close enough for me. ?
[General Topics] zelendel:
Well to be honest when I first got it I stress tested the battery life and I have been able to kill the battery in less then 3 hours but then I have been able to kill every battery in less then 4 hours on every device. That was a while ago when I first got the device.
[General Topics] SirVer:
3 hours? Wow. I wonder why batteries never seem to last as much as reviewers say it does. Smh
[General Topics] zelendel:
They do but that is under normal use age. Not really under heavy usage. You have to think that the people that test the device are normal business people. So they really don't use 5 hours sot a day. They use it like a tool mostly.
[General Topics] SirVer:
You're probably right, but I've never gotten that kind of life even with normal usage, unless I'm connected to WiFi all day, which is rare. Mobile data eats through the battery far faster than reviews would indicate. Ah, whatever, I can live with it. *shrug*
[General Topics] zelendel:
It shouldn't unless the signal is weak. I am almost never on wifi and only mobile data but I don't use alot of data at all. Less then 5gb a month. I normally use maybe 2 gb a month.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Signal usually isn't weak, AFAIK, but I could be wrong. However, every phone I've had gets warm-to-hot on data, and the battery never does well. ?
[General Topics] zelendel:
That normally means the device is working hard to keep a data signal. I had the same issue until I shut off lte and only use H+
[General Topics] SirVer:
Well, my phone has this thing where it goes to H+ when actively sending or receiving data, but drops back to H once it's done. Not always an issue, but sometimes it's like the threshold isn't triggered, and it doesn't go back to H+,and won't send/receive anything until it does; gets real annoying when I'm trying to call an Uber or something. Long story short, my 4G connection is actually more reliable than my 3G one.
[General Topics] jaris93:
Thanks for the feedback. I have read that the redmi uses a Samsung Isocell sensor(not really sure of the model number) but it is not integrated well into miui.

http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=276045&extra=page=6&page=1&mobile=2

It is mostly software issues with the camera.

The z1 on the other hand uses a Sony imx214 sensor which from the images I have seen seems to be quite good.

I am not really aware of the heating issues and fingerprint reliability but I will check it out. Thanks. I was also looking at huawei's honor 7,5x and Meizu's 5x. Any opinions on this would be much appreciated :D
[General Topics] SirVer:
Don't know about the Meizu, so not commenting on that. The Honor 7 is a good device, hardware-wise, but leaves a little to be desired on the software, but it may have improved on Marshmallow. One thing that really irritated me about it was the animation lag it had with some operations, like opening the recent apps menu - would happen even when doing nothing else. Also, it does not have much GPU power - you'll probably be able to run games fine, because most users don't seem to have issues, but it might struggle with them. It *should* do fine on 1080p video playback and all other normal stuff, though.

XDA has done rather excellent reviews on both these Honor devices, I suggest reading them:

Honor 7

Honor 5X
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
I agree with you concerning the camera but software is not an excuse if you know what i mean. When there is a comparaison between an LG G3 vs Nexus 6 vs Galaxy S5 ( This is just an example ) , we're not gonna say " The LG beat them because of his camera app which help a lot " , we blaim mainly the camera because its the thing that matter.

That's said you are right , take an S5 put CM13 on it and try the camera , you will see a huge difference because stock google camera is far worse than samsung's camera , but thats not an excuse to justify the camera quality of a phone.

I hope you understood my point.
[General Topics] Hynkel:
I am currently contemplating about buying the LG G4, but there are three things that are holding me back:

- I got wind of bootloop issues that have plagued many units manufactured before a certain date and I have no way to make sure the model I'm ordering from one Internet seller or another is safe.

- I really, REALLY want the white and gold model (getting a bit sick of black phones, haha) but AFAIK it's a Korea model and therefore not compatible with ~800 mHz LTE bands. Is this color even made available for the international H815/H818 versions?

- The Honor 7 premium has just come out, and this week only is sold for the same price range with one free VR headset. It's basically an Honor 7 with beefed up internal storage and quick charging tech. It looks good enough for my personal usage, though it lacks NFC and 1080@60fps video recording like my G2 has. From what I've seen around it appears that the LG is superior in many aspects, but the problems I have detailed above kind of put a damper on my enthusiasm, and now here I am, undecided on whether to take the G4 or the Honor 7 Premium.

Any answer will be welcome!
[General Topics] SirVer:
He didn't just mean the app, he meant the proprietary camera libraries made by OEMs as well, which makes a huge difference; it's the reason a Samsung device might have the same sensor as an Xperia, but still get better pictures. The sensor matters, yes, but the software is far more important these days; maybe not 99% like he said, but still significant.

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OK, why does everyone say the Honor 7 doesn't have NFC? Its GSMA spec sheet says it does, but everyone on the internet seems divided on the matter.
[General Topics] T_I:
Hi,

My Moyo G 2014 is on it's last legs, gps dying on me while driving, battery almost always empty and I let it drop a bit to often, small chip in the screen. I use the phone for:

Custom launcher (Nova)

Navigation (waze)

Calendar (Business calendar)

Messaging (WhatsApp)

Parking (ParkMobile)

Email (k-9)

Facebook (only posting images)

Taking pictures to put in Facebook (Camera ZoomFX)

Oh, and once in a while, I get a call, say once a month.

Biggest issue I have, next to hardware failure, is that the device gets extremely slow, even after a full wipe and factory reset. Looks like the 1G internal mem is to little at the moment, even for those apps.

Requirements:

cm 13 support

> 1G internal mem

microSD slot

Nice to have:

swappable battery

16 GB mem

Hardware keys

As both devices have the requirements, not all of the nice to haves is met by either device. Who has experience with either device with cm13 as a daily driver? Also, are there LG/Sony counterparts? Budget is 200 euro.
[General Topics] SirVer:
You... Haven't mentioned the two devices you're referring to. [emoji14]

There are a variety of devices that fit your needs, but seeing as you're in Europe, where pricing doesn't always seem to mirror international rates, I don't feel confident recommending them. You might check out the Wileyfox Swift - has everything you want, except hardware keys. It's been well received by most reviewers, and has both official CM13 and CyanogenOS 13. Its older brother, the Storm, has hardware keys, and a bigger FHD display, but makes the battery non-removable (while keeping it at the same capacity as the Swift), and ups the price tag. Just mentioning it for completeness' sake - it got much more mixed reviews than the Swift.
[General Topics] Ideas4ya:
Hey group, I have the Huawei P8 Max and I'm not happy with the limited LTE bands or the lack of custom Roms due to the hirin processor.

I'm wanting to buy the Xaiomi Mi Max when it comes out but I've never owned a Xaiomi phone before.

I'm looking for a large phablet, good battery life and ROM development...does the Xaiomi brand have any drawbacks? How do you pronounce Xaiomi anyway?

Thanks in advance
[General Topics] SirVer:
Xiaomi devices come bootloader locked now, and unlocking them is a PITA, from what I've heard. If you're looking for a phablet, why not the Nexus 6? It's not as large as the Mi Max, but few phones are. Good dev scene, large battery - the Mi Max has the latter, but may not necessarily have the former.

P.S. AFAIK, it's pronounced, "Shaomi".
[General Topics] Ideas4ya:
Thanks for the info. At least I know how to say the name now lol. I ditched Samsung devices because of the locked bootloader so as long as it's possible to unlock it I'm OK there. Coming from a 6.8" screen, I simply can't go back to 6" and it's a huuuge decision to downgrade to a 6.44", but its a fair trade-off for custom ROM development.

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm also looking at a LeTV Max (LeCo) phablet as well. Any experience with the LeTV devices?
[General Topics] T_I:
Sorry, my bad, had to copy'n'paste from original post, where the models were in de topic.

I'm trying to figure out if I shoudl stay with Motio G (2015 16G version) or switch to the Samsung J5.

Moto G 2015 16G has 2G system memory, the J5 had 1.5G system memory of the 8 GB in total.

One way I'm tempted to go for the J5 (hardware keys, replaceable battery), on the other hand the Moto G has the 16G memory and as far as I know a more stable cm13. (And I now have a Moto G 2014)
[General Topics] SirVer:
I don't see CM13 for the J5 anywhere, and seeing as that's a requirement for you, I'd say the Moto G would automatically be the winner, unless you've found a build I haven't? All I saw was a CM12.1 build.

If it was me, based on hardware alone, I'd pick the Moto G - I could live with 1.5 gigs of RAM, but that 8 gig internal is too much of a bottleneck for me. If you don't install many apps though, I guess it wouldn't matter much to you.

Way I see it, you have 3 options:

1. Moto G, the best pick in my opinion, but is missing both hardware keys and a removable battery.

2. As I mentioned earlier, the Wileyfox Swift, which has better specs than the J5, and has a removable battery, but is also missing hardware keys.

3. The Galaxy J5, which has the least specs, but meets all your hardware requirements.

It really depends on what you prioritize - if it's hardware config, the J5, and if it's software, the other two.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Mate 8 ? It has kirin cpu but believe me it's a beast. Or you can look at the Galaxy A9 pro , Nexus 6.
[General Topics] SirVer:
He's looking for ROM development, which the Mate 8 doesn't offer right now; doesn't look like it ever will, either, unless Huawei get less reserved about sharing sources.
[General Topics] T_I:
Thanks, I was not sure what to do, now I know.

The phone is just for use, not to tinker with (have more then enough to do with the Tab S2 and cm, big challenges there) I found a comparison the moto G 2014 and 2015 and the upgrade isn't that big to run to the shop for it. I expect there will be a 2016 version along the line. I'll hold onto mt 2014 until it dies and then order the newest obtainable. (still have a Huawei G710 laying around somewere, will do during transport of the new phone)

Edit: Now I know why gsmarena reports a 8 and 16 GB J5 and I can only find the 8 GB version in stores in The Netherlands, the 16 GB version is due to arrive this month. I'll be more then happy to drop my cm13 requirement to a cm requirement, as cm 12.1 is available. This will also give back the option to push apps to the sd card without ruining the exchangability of the sd card between devices. (M encrypts it, so no go there :( )
[General Topics] Hynkel:
As far as I know only the chinese 64 GB model has NFC. The Europe model doesn't.
[General Topics] prince10t:
Hey guys, I currently have Xperia Z5 dual which is 5months old, and having a half hearted attempt in switch to Xiaomi Mi5.

the reasons are [(+) positive and (-) negative]

Xperia Z5

+waterproof

+developer friendly

+sd card

+great camera

+more popular than Xiaomi

+UI is great, almost stock android

-bootloader is locked

-no LB root yet, and maybe never will happen

-if you unlock BL, you lose DRM keys (although there is a restore)

-phone can get REALLY HOT at times

-8 cores are not that really usable

-battery is not that impressive

-the phone is edgy on the sides, it looks good and ok, but hand-feel is not impressive

-slowly charges 0-100% in 2hrs and 20mins, (10-100% = 2hrs)

Xiaomi Mi5 (don't have this phone yet, so I based these on peoples feedback via internet and a friend)

+great outdoor camera

+SD 820 runs cooler than 810(Z5)

+better gpu

+better battery life and SoT

+lightweight

+great hand feel

+quick charges in less than an hour or others reported 1hr and 20mins

+unlocking the BL does not sacrifice some kind of proprietary keys or functions (needs to be confirmed!)

-Xiaomi MIUI is bad, and at the moment, global rom has a lot of issues

-mono speakers

-Xiaomi dev community <- Im not sure if there are a lot compared to Sony

-lock BL

Having said ALL of these, my main concern are 1-heat, 2-Root, 3-battery life and 4-charging speed in that order. Im not sure if there is any significant hope with my Z5 if I unlock BL, root, then apply some mod to tame its SD810 SoC, I'm also not sure if that will be enough.

What are your thoughts guys? I will really appreciate your feedback. TIA.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
If i was you i would stick with the Z5.
[General Topics] dsillydude:
help which one should I buy?

hey guys, I want to buy A phone... but I have two choices here, I thought if I come here i'd get some good suggestions.. the two choices are,

1. NEXUS 5X ($249)

2.MOTOROLA 2ND GEN (XT1092) ($150)

The reason I wanna buy them is because I want to have a phone that supports lte band 20 (800 mhz) now im open to all suggestion including other devices but first priority is btn those two mentioned
[General Topics] SirVer:
Between those two, I would definitely get the 5X; better processor, better camera, better update schedule, better lifetime - well worth the additional $100.
[General Topics] MortimerR:
I've heard that the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 pro is very good for the price. So, if you can pick it up for a worthwhile price, it won't disappoint. It's a popular device though so you should be able to find a lot of camera tests and what not for it
[General Topics] jaris93:
Thanks. I have gone through many reviews and videos on the RN3 and they all say the phone is one of the best phones to purchase for its price tag, but they also say the camera is a dissapointment. This is kind of a let down for me. The camera and battery life are really important to me at this point in time.

I recently came across this phone called the "Zopo Speed 8". It has just become available and it packs a huge load of specs which are impressive. The system also seems to run an almost pure android. I cant however seem to find many reviews on the device yet.

Any advice on this phone OR any other devices which I might be interested in will be very helpful :D
[General Topics] SirVer:
Pretty sure I saw a review for a Zopo Speed device on the XDA portal some time ago - don't know if it's the one you're talking about, but a Google search should turn up the review.
[General Topics] jaris93:
yep, they reviewed the Zopo Speed 7 and Speed 7 Plus in December. I am expecting a review of the Speed 8 soon :D

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[General Topics] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
S7 / S7 EDGE / HTC 10 / LG G5

Looking for next smartphone,

Just need one with good battery life :/
[General Topics] dsillydude:
thanks man im gonna get the 5x though I hate LG.
[General Topics] SirVer:
If you hate them for their software, you have nothing to worry about with a Nexus. If it's other reasons... *shrug*
[General Topics] myawan:
S7 edge!! it has insane battery backup.
[General Topics] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
I hope so! My lg g3 only lasts 2h SoT
[General Topics] dsillydude:
yeah I just owned the G2 and G3 global versions the g2 randomly started to touch itself had replace the whole degitizer and the G3 (d855) had problem on reading sim card, i've seen lot of people complained about that idk is it just me or what.

anyways I came across last two things here The 5x or Moto x Pure edition...they price isnt by far any different. just wanna be sure here.... which one should I get?
[General Topics] prince10t:
Go for S7 or S7 edge. Every benchmark I saw says the same thing in battery department, its awesome. It can give you 5-7 hrs of average SoT.
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
Get the xt1095 pure edition. I have one and love it. The camera is horrible in low light though. The m8/m9 camera kills it.
[General Topics] s8freak:
What do you guys think of this device??? Especially for the price new. I'm bored and need a new toy.

"And on that bombshell!"

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[General Topics] SirVer:
Unless you want the fingerprint sensor, I'd get the Pure, for the microSD and extra GB of RAM.

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It's very good - processor is a little outdated and prone to overheating, but it's got a good dev scene, and it works smoothly enough. It'll be slower than even your OPX, though, and noticeably so, unless Marshmallow custom ROMs have changed that. You might consider getting a Nexus 5 instead if you want to tinker.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Money...the Sony is cheaper but it has great development. It's just a tinker phone like my OPX my S7Edge is an absolute beast

"And on that bombshell!"

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[General Topics] Planterz:
The Z is aged, but still a perfectly usable device, and the price is right. It'd be a good "rainy day" phone (literally, since it's waterproof), and/or for using as a music player.

It's funny reading a review of this phone from 3 years ago and it describes the 5" screen as "gigantic".
[General Topics] SirVer:
Yeah, I used to think it was a little large too. Now that I'm used to 5.5, I just think it's little, period. Let's not even talk about my ZR (4.7). ?
[General Topics] Planterz:
I just bought (but returned) an S4 Mini. A wee bit smaller than my Nexus 6.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Yeah I know it's a bit aged but the price was good and it had excellent development so I pulled the trigger and bought. It's brand new so what the heck right?

It'll join my OPX and my S7Edge

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[General Topics] Planterz:
Cool. Let me know what you think. I'm kinda tempted myself for the price, except for the fact that I'd have practically no need for it. And you know me, I'm an advocate of specs rather than age; I'd rather buy this or an LG G2 or Galaxy S4 than a Moto G or other "budget" device for the same money (or more). If I needed such a phone.
[General Topics] NOSTALGIA:
[MENTION=5072378]s7freak[/MENTION] another one on the family??
[General Topics] s8freak:
I'm a phone glutton what can I say.

Right now I'm setting up a Samsung Metro PCS Exhibit LOL already rooted with TWRP

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It'll be here the 25th so I'll keep you up to date

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[General Topics] shoey63:
Welcome to the wonderful world of ftf's, elf and sin files, and the notorious FOTAKernel partition. Mine is still going great guns after 3 years on original battery. Flashed the hell out of it but it just keeps going. I also have a Z3 so I use it as a work phone. You're gonna love it.
[General Topics] s8freak:
I'm looking forward to it

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[General Topics] Soufiansky:
S7 edge , you wont be disapointed.

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You can have better phones for the same price like the LG G2.

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What the hell is this phone i never heard of it LOL ???
[General Topics] force70:
I always wanted a Z device, the look is amazing, great camera etc etc but sony always locks the damn BL up here and it cannot be unlocked.

You have to buy a factory model and pray the BL is unlockable.

Freak out of curiosity how is the battery life on the s7 as compared to the S6?

Spoke to axmeister lately? Hes scarce these days.:confused:

Sent from my Note 5 or Nexus 6P
[General Topics] s8freak:
Haven't talked to him in a couple months he won't answer hangouts or email

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