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[General Topics] mr_rodge:
Hi

Looking for buying advice, criteria as follows (I'm in the UK):

- Looking to spend as little as possible, but must be improvement over the LG D855/OnePlus One/iPhone 6 we have in the house already.

- Must be Android, as we're Auto users.

- New, it's a gift.

- Camera is absolute priority. Particularly speed for stills.

- ROM available (or OTA stock upgrade) to Nougat/Oreo.

- Min 32GB storage, or smaller and expandable via SD.

- Minimum FHD screen, 5 inch. OLED/HDR would be great but not essential.

- USB Type C would be nice, but not essential.

- Flashable for stable, alternative ROM without bloat, such as Lineage.

- Good VR experience prefereable but again not a priority.

We're currently using Lineage OS ROMS on our Android phones which are snappy, stable, look pretty and ticks all the boxes but the cameras mean we're losing out on great moments. Whole reason for upgrade is that Android Auto is better than Apple CarPlay, but the cameras on our Android phones are pants in comparison to the iPhone 6. They're shocking in low light and to get a sharp picture you need still subjects and a tripod. Whilst the iPhone's shots aren't really any better under those conditions, it's the fact that when the shutter button is pressed, the picture is snapped and there's no lag or blur, regardless of conditions, even with Auto HDR. Whilst low light shots are grainy on it, the subjects are never lost and the memory of the moment isn't ruined!

I've read about how good the pixel is, but it looks out of my price range. I'm thinking about the Galaxy S6 or S6 Edge, with some other ROM on it. What's your thoughts? Camera better than LG's G5/G6? Also not averse to chinese alternatives, as long as the camera is up to scratch and it's ROMmable.

Thanks!
[General Topics] GodOfWar88:
[MENTION=8263386]mr_rodge[/MENTION]

Unless your planning on getting a S6 with 128gb storage you might run out of room. My wife had the S6 32gb and the camera is awesome but no sd card slot. I forgot what rom I installed on her phone but this is what showed up on about phone and cpu-z, mmb29k.920w8vlu5cpk4. I was really considering the Mate 9 which was suggested to me until I watched several videos showing the Mate 9 with bad low light and video stabilization. Oneplus 3T vs Huawei Mate 9 vs Galaxy S7 - Camera Battle! I think I will wate until Galaxy S9 comes out in Feb before I make a choice and the competition should lower prices. If I should choose now and maybe even in Feb, I'm thinking Superman rom g930f
[General Topics] mr_rodge:
Thanks for the reply. Space was a concern for me too with the S6, may just leave it stock and run a debloat script or something. Space was a problem on the OPO as well though not for storage of content. Had to omit several GApps and install after due to being unable to even flash. The G3 is also 32GB and doesn't take long to fill with photos, but not too concerned about that as we back everything up on PC/cloud, removing from the phone.

Still looking like S6, unless there's a better suggestion!
[General Topics] force70:
I wouldn't waste time on the s6, spend a bit more and get an S7.

It has numerous advantages not the lewst of which is an sd card slot, better camera, water resistance and newer tech.

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[General Topics] anon1135:
I think I read about the s6 having poor battery life before is that a concern for u? s7 seemed like a good upgrade from it that fixed most of the problems s6 had like no sd slot. not sure of the price difference though and edge might've been the good one. it just seems more complete and solid overall
[General Topics] mr_rodge:
Would love to, S7 was the first one I wanted to go for. Thing is the S6 is £120 brand new and the S7 is £300 minimum. Do the advantages justify the £s?!
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
I had the s6 about 6 months ago and I'd recommend it if you can get the 64 or 128gb version or don't need much space. I ran a custom TouchWiz ROM and it was much quicker than stock. Camera was good and the battery was as good as a new one. Which isn't impressive but you can always get a power brick if you need it. S7 would be preferable but that's a big price jump. Also if you go with an s7 you want to get the Exynos version not the Snapdragon one that's commonly available in the states.
[General Topics] Sizzlechest:
Looking for a phone in the $50 range that works on T-Mobile for a teen. Had the BLU that had the Amazon ads, but the screen cracked.
[General Topics] GodOfWar88:
[MENTION=8263386]mr_rodge[/MENTION]

If your determined for S6, then I would shoot for the 128gb model. Otherwise like I mentioned and a few others the S7, for me the Samsung's Galaxy S7 SM-G930F is what I would get. Most people I have read and seen videos like the S7 Edge as it has a bigger battery but I plan on buying a Samsung Galaxy S7 Battery Case. The S7 has the sd card slot and from what I read the Superman rom allows VoLTE and Wifi calling. The US model already supports it I believe but I am going for the Exynos version for more mult-tasking performance. Besides I am not looking to spend too much as I only want something with a great camera and performance to last me 2 more yrs and then see what's out.
[General Topics] mr_rodge:
S7 is just too expensive. S6 now off the cards as well; £120 price tag was a scam! Any alternatives? Thanks!
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Well you van try HTC 10 but will have to go up to maybe 180GBP it's around 250 now on eBay. That's gonna be my next phone. I was using an S5 and sold it then bought an honour 5x. Worse thing I could ever do. S5 is was flying and this phone is super slow. With 615 processor. My next phone is of course the HTC 10.
[General Topics] Amirk365:
I got the 6x. Blazing faster than the S5 could ever go.
[General Topics] GodOfWar88:
[MENTION=8263386]mr_rodge[/MENTION], What is your price range? I read that Honor 6x has a great camera for it's price, if you look back at my earlier post that is a cheaper price range to strongly consider. It was one of my choices plus microSD slot. Amirk365 said he has Honor 6x and it's blazing fast.

Like Kemdroid mentioned, I am shopping on Ebay for pricing so the S7 is around $300. Find you a phone you like and buy from a powerseller is my recommendation. That auction site has many choices, I didn't know if we could mention other sites so I just hinted by saying auction site but since Kemdroid said Ebay, I guess it's okay. I will say that I dug out my wife's S6 and it's 64gb. I have tested about 12 different roms, the Nougat and Oreo's wouldn't let me hear who was calling me and they couldn't hear me. I reset the apn setting and made sure the choice was T-mobile still no go. I just have to transfer pic's and stuff onto my PC and external hard drive when S6 starts getting full. So far my 2 favorites Roms are Alexis_The_End_of_MM and OdexLite-v4.2. I figure this will hold me over until Galaxy S9 release in Feb.
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Yea? Sounds sweet! What about custom ROMs?
[General Topics] Amirk365:
Not much. But I like EMUI. It surprisingly good.
[General Topics] kemdroid:
I see. So I guess you don't plan to root etc? I would love to see ROMs and how it performs before I buy one ...
[General Topics] anon1135:
how is the battery life on honor 6x? I saw it listed as an Amazon choice. I always wondered how good kirin processor and emui were since it looks like huawei is the only one that uses it
[General Topics] Ibuprophen:
The following threads may also be a good place to ask this question for some device specific feedback too.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3531050

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3483081

Good Luck!

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PLEASE KEEP IT IN THE THREADS WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE
[General Topics] Amirk365:
Getting around 6 1/2 to 7 hours SOT. Location, LTE always one and Wifi for about 8 hours.
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Wow that's dope right there. I see that the 6x doesn't have much stable ROMs and it's structure is Weaker than the 5x so I wouldn't buy that phone. I will opt for the HTC 10.
[General Topics] mr_rodge:
Don't really have a budget as such, but £250 is too much haha.
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Try the HTC 10 it's worth it!

5.2 in screen

Killer audio jack with lots of power

3000 ma battery

Qhd screen

Snapdragon 820

Strong durable metal body

Lots of ROMs to choose from
[General Topics] mr_rodge:
Camera compared to S6/7? Particularly speed/low light.
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Kills the s6 dead. On part with s7 but s7 takes some slightly better shots. HTC 10 is the most underrated flagship.
[General Topics] FBI Surveillance Van #23R:
I'm between Google Pixel XL(1st generation) and OnePlus 5T

If I buy the Pixel XL(1st generation), I will buy a USED one. If I buy the OnePlus 5T, I will buy a NEW one but it will cost me +50-60€ more.

I am a diehard fan of Nexus devices, so this extends to Pixel devices as well. They got support from Google, so this means software updates from day 1. I also use many custom ROMs, and I saw that the OnePlus 5T doesn't get much love. Its kernels are made for OxygenOS(stock ROM) and not AOSP.

Google Pixel XL:

+Software updates

+Resolution

+Camera

+USB 3.0

+Custom ROMs and Kernels

+Project Treble

-Used

OnePlus 5T:

+CPU

+RAM

+Display(It's 6")

+New

-Support in XDA

-Does NOT have project Treble

Can anyone help?
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Well pal from my view I would go with the one plus since it's a newer device and will be in development pretty soon. Just hand on. Furthermore oxygen OS is near stock android.

If you love Google badly the pixel isn't a bad choice either. Personally I wouldn't go for a device without expandable storage.
[General Topics] krow_dot:
Currently on Moto G 2 (2014). Thinking of going for either Moto Z2 Play or Xiaomi MI 6. Which would be a better choice?

MI6 has far superior specs. Plus I prefer the smaller form factor, which was one of the reasons I went with G2 originally.

Z2, on the other hand, has (near) stock android which is a huge plus for me, better low light camera, headphone jack and the whole modular add-on gimmick.

They both have similar retail price where I'm at.

Any advice or alternatives?
[General Topics] kemdroid:
One thing I can say. The snapdragon 835 is powerful but will easily suck that 2730 mah battery. If you are okay with 2-4 hrs screen on time. The go for it! It's future proof!
[General Topics] NWicketts:
Z3 compact or z5 compact

Since smartphones got huge I've always wanted a fast one I can hold in one hand (and touch the top left of the screen) so after years of Xperia Z1 compacts I just got a z3 compact... Which instantly cracked it's own screen :(:mad: but not before I got to witness the awesome speed of E.XP.E.R.I.E.N.C.E rom and now I have warranty refund.

It seems a z5 is now (just) in my price range :D:D:D sounds like it's got a CPU so good it even has overheating issues :victory: but I have no experience with this model.

Someone please tell me this is really the 4.6" phone speed fanatics dream! No gaming or videos but I do some serious web browsing with tons of tabs open and use more apps that most people have on their PC! Who thinks the speed bump would be worth the price difference and 16GB less internal storage?

Are battery issues serious with custom rom and Kernel?

Looks like RR rom with LXT mod will be sooooo fast it'll make me cry :victory::victory::victory:

There doesn't even appear to be boot loader lock issues unlike previous models.

P.s. awesome website. Been using it since my trusty Motorola mpx200
[General Topics] krow_dot:
Thanks for the insight. This 2-4 hours is if I use heavily, right? I'm not much of a gamer or youtube binger, just Facebook and Reddit are my usual usage atm. And Instagram whenever I go out at night. It should last a bit longer with this, right?
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Sure no worries pal. If you are a light user then you might be in for 3-4.5. I had a Galaxy s5 with a snapdragon 801 which is weaker than the 835. And I got 4-5 hrs screen on time with a 2800 mah battery. But the snapdragon 835 is an octa core which uses the weaker cores for weaker tasks like browsing or Facebook etc. So you should be good and get 4-5 hrs maybe 5.5 too I think. If you are an average user then that should be good!
[General Topics] krow_dot:
That sounds quite doable for me. I guess I'll go for MI6 then :D I'll miss the audiojack though, but then again, I never listen to music and charge simultaneously so I should survive.

Ohh that reminds me, any insight on MI6's compatibility with external DAC/Amps?
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Well partner the ball is in your court! Honesty my knowledge on that part is limited especially about phones without a headphone jack. I'd never buy one. :angel:
[General Topics] krow_dot:
Hahaha I know where you're coming from. The novice audiophile in me is crying out but I'm a slave to reality, that spec for buck is quite lucrative for someone fresh in his first job xD I just hope MI6 can live as long as my Moto G2 did. Heck, if it wasn't for the measly 800MB RAM, I wouldn't need to change right now. Just a battery swap would've done the trick :(
[General Topics] GodOfWar88:
Hey guy's, I think I am going to just go ahead and buy a S7 instead of waiting on the S9 to be released. I don't think the prices will drop that much regardless so my question to you all is which one has the best band support for US T-mobile? I live in Virginia, 22060 and I understand that the T-mobile version would have all bands but I want the Octo-core. Here is the info I found comparing the 2 models I am debating between. I don't know that much technical so need help please.

Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930W8	--- Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930F 32GB

Dual SIM	Not supported	--- Not supported

SIM card	1 slotnano-SIM (4FF)	--- 1 slot nano-SIM (4FF)

GSM Mhz band	Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900	--- Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900

2G network	GSM 850/900/1800/1900	--- GSM 850/900/1800/1900

3G network	TD-SCDMA UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100	--- UMTS 850/900/1900/2100

4G network	LTE Cat9 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2300/2600

(Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,29,30)TD-LTE 1900/2300/2500/2600 (Bands 38,39,40,41)---LTE Cat9 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600

1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,26)

Data network	GPRS, EDGE, TD-SCDMA, UMTS, TD-HSDPA, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, TD-LTE, LTE, LTE-A --- GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA,

HSPA+, LTE, LTE-A​
[General Topics] CDizzie:
T-Mobile supports frequencies 600/700/1700/2100/1900

They support bands

71/12/66/4/2

They use USPA (3G)/USPA+(4G)/UMTS(3G)/LTE and the 2G technologies of GSM/EDGE/GPRS

They use band 2 for all connections, 4 for 4G/LTE and 3G, and 66/12/71 for LTE. Also frequency 1700/2100/1900 are essentially all that’s needed to receive your service in most cases. 700 and 600 would be necessary for certain areas. Also bands 71 and 66 are not usually necessity either. Considering both S7’s support all of T-Mobile’s frequencies they should both work the same. All the other supported frequencies, etc. don’t even matter.​
[General Topics] xg4m3-:
Hi, what should i get if camera is my main number one priority?

Im looking at Pixel 2, but its kinda expensive and im afraid to get since it has so many problems. Or are those only tied to XL?

Is Huawei P10 or HTC U11 worthy alternative in regards of camera and quality?
[General Topics] force70:
Note 8

Pixel 2 xl. (no issues with mine)

Htc u11 plus

I think for camera those would be arguably the top 3.

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[General Topics] Tim0xff7:
So I've been interested in mobile security for quite some time now but have only focused on iOS. I've been wanting to get into android so I bought a at&t galaxy tab 4 (big mistake) only to find out its pretty much the worst device for what I'd like to do. I've been looking around on ebay for a "new" android device to buy and I'm not really sure which way to go. I like the Nexus line but most of them are too expensive for my budget at the moment. I did run across some decent price Nexus 5's as well as some LG G3/G4 that I thought about buying.

So my question is what $100 or less device would be the best to buy for my needs (root, custom recovery, ROMs, App pentesting, kernel vuln research, etc.) Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Edit: Please provide model numbers if possible as I've noticed the exact model and even carrier make all the difference when it comes to Android.
[General Topics] GodOfWar88:
[MENTION=8828815]CDizzie[/MENTION]

Thank you very much, I feel a little better knowing there isn't a big difference. I appreciate the explanation and you taking the time to answere my question. Not sure how it works but I clicked the thanks meter or link thingy.
[General Topics] vibealite:
is a nexus 6p still worth buying today? is it gud for roms and rooting? i all ready own a note 8 but dont want to root so looking for a phone to root thanks
[General Topics] anon1135:
I'm also wondering about 6p since its one of the only front speaker phones. I read about it for a bit and heard that its buggy and shuts off randomly for a lot of people. seems like a stock or battery problem. would flashing custom roms help fix that? I'll go ask in their main thread too
[General Topics] GodOfWar88:
Hello, maybe I can give you some more ideas as I am looking to upgrade from my Note 3. After researching and comparing many phones, my choices have come down to Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930W8 vs Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930F 32GB vs IPHONE 7 PLUS 128gb vs OnePlus 5T 8GB 128GB. Now you mentioned the Pixel 2 which on Ebay all of these phones including Pixel 2 can be had for $600 or less. I am trying to weigh all of the pros and cons on each of these devices for myself. Everyday I watch videos and picture comparisons trying to get an overall view of them all. It is becoming a challenge for me at least as I plan to keep the phone for at least 2-3 more years before I consider upgrading as I use to try and upgrade every yr and half. Waste of hard earned money.
[General Topics] vince20d:
Have been running Pure Nexus on my 6p for 2 years now. I love the 6p but battery life and lag are pushing me to get a new one. So now I am torn between a one plus 5t and a pixel 2xl.
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Go for the one plus. More bang for your buck! Pixel2 is.dead.
[General Topics] vince20d:
That's what I've been leaning towards. I will definitely miss my front facing speakers and pure Nexus experience.
[General Topics] kemdroid:
That's how it is sometimes mate. You win some you lose some. I sold my s5 and bought a Honor 5X and I don't regret it. The battery is amazing and I get to use two sims plus SD card at the same time!:angel:. I gave up the heart rate on the s5 and the 2.5 GHz processor for an 8 core 1.5ghz. But the Honor 5X performs flawlessly with custom ROMs that I use! (DOtOs)
[General Topics] Hammad1029:
I have 2 options for a phone rn.

The G5 and the S6

and both cost the same here

The reason for my confusion is that:-

The G5 has been reported to have bootloop issues like its predecessor the G4

And that it's quad core as compared to the S6 that is octa core

Are there any other issues with either of these?

Issues related to software matter but not too much as I'm planning to install a custom rom on either anyways but do mention em please

what should I get then?

Thanks in advance
[General Topics] Amirk365:
Both are not good choices really. G5 has bootloop issues and Galaxy S6 has terrible battery life.
[General Topics] Hammad1029:
and if I were to choose either?
[General Topics] anon1135:
what do u guys think about asus zenfones? specs seem good I heard ui is the only problem but tolerable for some. there was a sd 430+5k mah battery for 200 usd and sd 625+5k mah for around 300 on amazon. same specs as lenovo p2 but higher cost with a little extra and probably a brand people trust more
[General Topics] Amirk365:
Maybe you should wait a bit and get the Moto G6 Plus. Or if it's urgent, the G5 Plus.
[General Topics] anon1135:
people should look into Meizu m6 note if they want a budget phone and don't mind stock and if bands supported. no roms for it atm but it's basically a redmi note 4(which is very popular on xda) with u11 camera for under 200 from what I read. I wanted to get one myself. it seems many like huawei for budget dual cameras but sd 625+4k mah on the Meizu should have better battery life compared to kirin processor I think. not sure how good their flyme os is compared to emui and miui. most of the reviews I've seen and watched make it sound really good though
[General Topics] Niranjith kumar:
Best buy regarding

Galaxy note
[General Topics] Norlam:
I'm currently thinking about selling my Optimus 2x and buy a Galaxy Nexus. No ICS update ...
[General Topics] ck32:
For me it will be the "Note 2"
[General Topics] youpii:
Either a S3 or a cheap unbranded Chinese smartphone
[General Topics] josephnero:
I like Htc one x plus but hate s-on bullcrap
[General Topics] supreetsingh247:
Most probably some Galaxy S"n"...:D or one of the Google Nexus phones....
[General Topics] frisco99:
Note 2
[General Topics] god2many:
Currently I'm running a Droid X2, I was planning to upgrade to a Samsung S3 but was disappointed by how cheap and breakable it is. Havent seen many good droids lately... sorta been looking at the new iPhone 5... can anyone recommend a good phone?
[General Topics] Vertron:
Samsung Galaxy S4 or Nexus 5 ;)
[General Topics] rasa92re:
I am a fan of large amounts of Ram. I finally have phones with 2 gigs of RAM to choose from but I'd like my next phone to be a Nexus with a removable battery as well.
[General Topics] oupavoc:
Most likely a Nokia 920 to play around with.

Moto razr hd looks good but with a motos locked bootloaders no thanks.
[General Topics] arkpark:
I just want a Note. I feel like I'm not setting my sights high enough,..
[General Topics] fludox:
Probably the upcoming Nexus phone by LG. Will see how the reviews go...
[General Topics] deaddrg:
galaxy note2 or s3

i own a galaxy note now
[General Topics] rupeshwar:
Samsung Galaxy Note II
[General Topics] frftr:
SGS3
[General Topics] theoppositeman:
HTC maniac..

i'll wait for htc newest,,whatever it'll be..:laugh:
[General Topics] LeDocteur:
S?

I'm enjoying my Galaxy S3 very much, maybe I'll be getting the S5 when my two year contract ends. Or perhaps another Android phone that is largely supported by Google. (NexusXXX)
[General Topics] fka:
I want to wait for the first phones powered by the omap5 soc. First it has an interesting architecture and second do I like the policy of TI
[General Topics] Morngkilr:
I currently have a SGS2 And been VERY pleased with the ease of swapping roms and modding it, wich is a very important factor for mesince i cant STAND having a "boring" phone... you know the "just like everyone else" type. So with that being said, im still very undecided as to what will be my next phone. Maby galaxy s4 if its less flimsy than the S3... otherwise probly one of the Nexus Series...
[General Topics] 3711samsung:
Id hafta go with the Samsung Galaxy S III forsure. But can't decide weather or not to get the mini..
[General Topics] narshi shukla:
i have used op5t and i will strongly recommend this one, however there are some user reported camera issue like oil painting effect in low light and weak bokeh effect, but there are several workaround like using oneplus camera m nad google pixel mode which works very well and you will not regret for buying this device.:fingers-crossed:
[General Topics] masm64:
Hey! I'd like to buy a new phone and I have 2 contenders, the LG G6 and the Oneplus 5T. I want a good camera, snappy performance, at least okay battery life and display. I don't really mind the 5T being only a 1080p display. Which phone would you suggest out of these 2? Other suggestions are welcome, too!
[General Topics] kemdroid:
Hey there! That's not really a tough decision. The G6 wins by far. I have it down as my next phone too. It comes with a great camera that's better than the one plus 5 and is also water resistant ;). Plus you save an extra buck because I see then on eBay for about $400 brand new. It's totally worth it for me.