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[General Topics] Domin_PL:
OPO/X currently mot avaible on opo's store, but anyway hard with warranty with them.

I read about moto x play, good photos quality but I read that it has problems with heating. Price is OK, likely Nexus 5x/xperia z3

Nexus 6 still to expensive

And there is huawei 8p too

So, Xperia Z3 vs Nexus 5x vs huawei 8p vs Nexus 5x vs something else?

As u wrote its no sens to buy s5 when it will be laggy. S6 is too expensive but its not lagging even with touchwiz...

But one more question. If s5 would get Marshallmow, had it touchwiz like s6? (light) Then maybe it wouldnt be bad idea to buy it

Z3C takes better photos than Z3?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Nope MM in the S5 is a joke , only changes are doze , new icons...and that's it. I would go with the Z3 , and no the Z3C have the exact same camera as the Z3 , they are the same.
[General Topics] Domin_PL:
Okay, I'll be looking for z3 then. I'm not hurrying with the purchase, so maybe it will be cheaper yet.

Thank you guys for all the answers, have a nice night! ;)
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
I agree to some extent that "one bad apple dont spoil a whole bunch of girls" (to quote lyrics from an old song) concept where one device fail doesn't mean all are bad. I am hoping my HTC M9 will be fixed eventually, even if it takes over a month. Now I am worried how much they will charge me to fix it. Don't get me wrong, the M9 is a great phone, great speed, and excellent speakers and headphone sound, before fail. But I know of more than a few cases same as me, suddenly power fail for no reason. so it does leave a bad experience. Anyhow we will see how HTC service is later.

For now , just saw this and it has jumped to top of my "Wishlist" - the XDA Labphone...4Gb Ram , external SD etc...says

"As for hardware, we know what you want, as we wouldn’t give you anything we wouldn’t want ourselves. Rest assured, the XDA Labphone will bring the extremely snappy Snapdragon 820, finely tuned by the best kernel developers that ever graced this site. Once you read Franco’s contributions to the code repo, you’ll know it’s in good hands. This phone is also coming with 4GB of DDR4 RAM with better app-holding capabilities than any other 4GB phone out there — we’ve been able to increase RAM efficiency by close to 40%, meaning an additional 6 applications over the average 4GB phone!"

."take my money now!" http://www.xda-developers.com/introducing-the-xda-labphone/?nocache=1 :good: :good:

(I am hoping its not an April fool announcement ; )
[General Topics] myawan:
I am in the same boat as you. After comparing a lot of things, Nexus 5x is better than Xperia Z3. Both have almost the same price but Nexus guarantees updates, better camera and fingerprint scanner.

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XDA Labphone was a damned April fool joke!
[General Topics] Domin_PL:
I think z3 takes better photos on manual Mode, in Nexus u have clear Google camera which u can download grom play store, in Z3 u have additional options (there is some camera modifications /ports from z5 on the forum)

For z3 also waterproof.

And I dont mind about finger scaner so I dont have to have it:P
[General Topics] myawan:
Check ratings at DxOMark for both cameras: Nexus gets 84 points while Z3 got 79 so obviously Nexus is better overall, its just not about camera application, Nexus has got better camera hardware.

Z3 is certainly superior in terms of water protection but Nexus also has faster processor.
[General Topics] Domin_PL:
I cannot fine Nexus 5x on DxOMark, z3 is, Nexus nope

So Nexus has better processor, camera, finger scaner, updates directly from Google

Z3 is waterproof, has 1 GB more ram, is made from glass not like Nexus from plastics

And is it possible to induction charging on both decices? On z3 i know it is, but on Nexus? It's important to better not to have burnt USB after 2-3 years using
[General Topics] SirVer:
No, Nexus 5X and 6P have no wireless charging, because Google thought you wouldn't need it if you had USB C and fast charging. *facepalm*
[General Topics] Domin_PL:
No sens, I think that even USB C is more suceptible for damages than other USB ports.

So now I have to make really hard decision what to buy
[General Topics] SirVer:
I don't think you should be looking at wireless as a criteria for these two, 'cause I looked it up, and I don't think the Z3 has wireless charging either - only a wireless charging case. However, it does have those docking pins that most of the Z line has; of course, it requires that you buy a proprietary dock, or build one yourself (there are tutorials for that on the forums, easy enough to follow), but it's something.
[General Topics] Castor-designs:
My HTC One S (2012–2016 rip) got bricked in my attempt to repartion the phone so I need a new phone.

Now I am deciding between LG Nexus 5X (340 $) and LG G4 (390 $).

Important to me is performance, ram, processor, storage space. Camera and speakers do not matter.

I like the Nexus fingerscanner on the one hand and on the other hand I apreciate the cardslot with possibly 128 GB storage.

I think that the dimension of the LG Nexus 5X fits my pocket well, but then again I think a device bought in 2016 that has to last another 4 years is better off with 3 GB ram (at least).

Can you guys help me? I am really stuck here with my decision-making-process. While I think I am going to buy either of the two devices, don't be afraid to throw in options I have completely missed. (Iconsidered Moto X but the phone is too big. I considered Samsung Galaxy S5 but I can only find the inferior Neo Version below 400 $. Furthermore I am afraid of flashing roms to a brand new phone with warranty but we all know about the bloatware of Galaxy so I definitely would have to instantly unlock/flash that one).
[General Topics] myawan:
Nexus 6p and 5x have same camera so there is no need for separate review for 5x. Similarly you won't find review for regular galaxy s6 because s6 edge is reviewed.
[General Topics] force70:
I would go G4 over 5x.

Not enough storage on 5x and the screen is too small.

Now the nexus 6p is another story...

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Me too , i would definitely choose the G4 over the 5x.
[General Topics] myawan:
I would prefer 5x over G4 anyday......G4 might hardly get Android N with its ugly and unoptimized UI while 5x will be supported certainly with Android O officially and even further unofficially. Its a difference of night and day if you are an android enthusiast!

Compare this with Nexus 5 and LG G2, both released same time but Nexus 5 is still rocking solid just because of software support while G2 has perished...........Its all about software!
[General Topics] Castor-designs:
hmm thanks for the replays. and what about HTC M9? seems to have the hardware as well as a smaller size.
[General Topics] myawan:
M9 camera is poor and its version of SD810 is not well optimised to handle thermal issues. In my opinion, M9 is not value for the money you pay.
[General Topics] Castor-designs:
But what about custom roms? I mean at some point I would just flash custom rom on LG G4 like i did for my HTC One S once Sense updates stopped. If its all about software and we are right here on xdadevelopers, does it not mean, we do not have to consider software that much since we flash our own anyway?
[General Topics] myawan:
You will find custom roms for G4 but don't expect stability, unless sources are available no custom rom is stable. Sources for Nexus devices are out thats why their custom roms are stable. Thats why Cyanogenmod releases its new version for Nexus devices first.

Nexus 5x will get Android N in September while for G4 you might have to wait from 4 to 6 months more. If latest android release is not an issue for you then you should go for G4 but you certainly feel unsatisfied when your device is not running latest and greatest.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
G2 perished ? Please don't talk about things you never had or you never own , the G2 still have good support and it still rock solid.

I'de rather have a G2 than a Nexus 5 with a crappy camera and a battery that dies 5hours after unplugging my charger.
[General Topics] myawan:
Easy my friend :) I respect your opinion. Its all about preferences, you prefer camera quality and battery life while I prefer software over anything. And I came to this conclusion after spending five years on XDA.
[General Topics] SirVer:
I agree - for future proofing, you definitely want that 3 gigs of RAM. That's not to say the 5X won't age well, but the G4 will probably age better, given dev support (don't know how good that is for the G4). On the other hand, fingerprint scanners will probably be ubiquitous in another 2 years, and you might feel that down the line. How about a cheaper phone, but maybe keep that around for 2 years or so? Maybe pick up an old flagship, or $200 mid ranger, and upgrade sooner than you usually would? Or heck, even a sub-100 one (like a used Nexus 4 or something) to tide you over until the end of the year (or until the new Nexii are announced), when some better options might have come out or got a price cut.

If you need one right now, I'd probably go for the G4 if I were you.

Many would disagree with you on the G2 being dead - it's still going just as strong as the N5 for many people. And I won't disagree with you about LG's UI - it's the ugliest one out there, ever since Touchwiz stepped up its game - but no matter how efficient software is, hardware is a very significant factor; the guy sounds like a power user, and for heavy usage, the difference between 2 gigs and 3 is like night and day, especially when apps just keep getting heavier, and he needs to keep it for 4 years.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
No there is nothing wrong i just wanted to explain , the G2 still a blazing fast phone and can provide great experience even if it's 3 years old. I had it and trust me i regret every day selling it , this phone is a beast and will never die in my opinion. Software is important too but if i dont have enough battery to enjoy it it's not worth :).
[General Topics] Castor-designs:
Hmmm I like the agitaded discussion keep it going. You see firstly I have some standards: Buying a used phone would be the only option to keep going before buying something real since I have some moral ideals considering consumer society here (that is why it has to last 4 years): I strongly disagree with buying a phone just for some months and then dump it. Secondly I’m probably a bit into security and stuff which prevents me from selling my used phones to some place unknown.

Considering the talk about software and stuff: Yes I would say I am a power user. So I am willing t invest in getting the best out of my phone.

I intend in going with the stock software until my warranty runs out. Then (unless the stock software is dope) i flash roms and start to mess with my phone quite a bit (including replaceing battery and such; does not matter if I have to open the Nexus case).

I probably am one of the software-love-fraction, but then again battery life is also important to me. What worth is the best software in the world when my phone dies 4 P. M.?

So in conclusions: If in 2 years I am stuck with a phone that has outdated software and there are no stable and superneat roms out there, no dev community, then I got a problem.

Right now it seems to me as if the Nexus is the better option in that case?
[General Topics] SirVer:
Well, you wouldn't have to dump it; I don't dump my phones either - I either give it to someone else, or repurpose them. But yeah, if you have moral concerns there, let's take that off the table. To be honest, it's not something I would do either - mainly because it'd be too much work.

Hmm. Given the past record of the G2 and G3, and flagships in general, there's a pretty good chance that development will still be going strong 2 years later... But there's no way to be sure. Whereas with a Nexus, development is a guarantee, regardless of age. If it were me, I would take the risk, especially since there are already some official MM ROMs available for it, but I don't use my devices as daily drivers as long as you do. So I guess the Nexus would be the best fit for you; you'll have to put in some more work to keep it smooth as it ages, but it sounds like that wouldn't bother you.

TL;DR: Nexus fits you best, I think.
[General Topics] Domin_PL:
Okay guys, I decided, I will buy Nexus 5x, but one more question.

All Nexus lose quickly on their value, currently we can buy renovated Nexus 4 for less than 100 Euro, when in the past it costed like nowdays Nexus 5x.

Will they lose as quick as N4 on their value? Because if yes I'll buy it when it will be much cheaper than right now.

Official updates till Android O or longer? :P sounds great
[General Topics] trinilu27:
Why would you buy a device worried about whether it's going to lose value or not if you're worried it's going to lose value you're obviously not getting the device you want
[General Topics] Castor-designs:
Thank you very much for all the helpfull information. Definitely helped me; I go with Nexus.

See you in the dev’s subforum!
[General Topics] Planterz:
If I needed the cheapest phone with the most power and potential, it'd be an LG G2. I've recommended this device more times than I can remember. It'll still do anything you'd want it to, and do it well. And far cheaper than any budget phone you'd buy new.
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
I still have a g2 sitting broken in my drawer. It will cost me over $100 for a new LCD that has a chance at being any good. I sold my m8 to pay my tax bill and went back to the Nexus 4. Would like to use the g2 again but I've already spent so much money and time on it.
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
I would never want wireless charging if I had USB C and fast charging . You cant use your phone properly when wireless charging anyway. For me its just a silly gimmick, and needlessly puts the phone price up. I feel Google made right decision.
[General Topics] trinilu27:
I still have a g2 sitting in the drawer only because I have a g4....and when I brick the g4 or it brakes I'll get out the g2....cuz its bad ass and if beat the hell out of it and it still peforms like new
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
I disagree. re-sale value is actually very important. alot of people who sell their phones after a couple years and don't want to lose too much money? so they can buy another new phone? eg Samsung (and Apple) generally, in many Asian countries, have excellent resale value. My guess is generally brands like say Xiaomi or OPPO would not have as good resale value?
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
Wireless charging isn't a gimmick if the charging port gives up in 2 years and you can't or don't want to replace the device yet. I used it every night on my Nexus 4 and 5 before but when I replaced that phone I gave the wireless charger to my sister for her Nexus 5.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Well, you're in the minority there; many people find it very useful. Besides, it doesn't seem like a coil and two extra pins on the inside back would cost much extra, but I can't but sure of that.
[General Topics] 3di:
Hi Guys,

as every year we are looking for an upgrade of handsets (who isn't).

Unfortunately in 2016 there wasn't any phone that exited me in a way like flagships in the past years did.

(Im thinking of S4/5, Note3/4/5, G3/G4, V10, OPO1, Xiaomi Note Pro, Find7.. and so on)

The concept of the XDAPhone remided me of the "welcome in the boredom 2016" Smartphone market.

Short summary:

S7 - Great Cam, Gread Screen, but I prefer larger Phones 5,5" and up

S7 Plus - Great Cam, Gread Screen, i am not so convinced by the edge concept

LG G5 - the G3,G4 were great devices, but why had it gone to a smaller screen?

Note 5/6 - Good Screen, Good Hardware, I think Note 5 maybe the best choise, but the N5 wasn't available in Germany, so i think the N6 will neither

OPO - The first came with a bash, maybe the best phone you couldn't buy in 2014, OPO2 didn't amaze me in that way, leaked specs say it will only have FHD, as i have nearly Eagle Eyes i like 2k Screens

OPPO - No 820 at the moment, they may have something in the funnel but i don't know anything at the moment.

Nexus - Just a Warm 810, no reason to update to, i hope there will be some new models

Conclusion:

The Specs of the XDAPhone would have fitted perfectly to my wishes - i hope there will be a phone that amazes us in 2016.

(5,5"-5,7", SAMOLED in 2k, 4-6GB RAM, 32GB and up Internal, Battery 3000 and up, changable Battery, good Cam, would be nice)

Unfortunately here in Germany we are tied to LTE Band Band 20 (800 MHz), which causes oftentimes difficulties in finding a good choise.

Have you any suggestions for me / what phone are you waiting for in 2016.

Best Regards,

3di

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[General Topics] Soufiansky:
S7 Edge , best phone out there for now in my opinion.
[General Topics] Domin_PL:
Surprise, Nexus 6P doesn't have heating problems, but there is no extendable storage, no changable battery, no IQ charging.
[General Topics] xbuddah:
iPhone SE coming from LG G2, I will keep using the G2 for fun.
[General Topics] force70:
Other than the screen being too small maybe yes, if it was 6" I'd get one for sure.

This doesn't apply to the snapdragon models of course due to the locked boot loader making the device a total no go for many of us here

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Yes + Exynos models are more powerful. Concerning the screen , 6" is too big for me , 5 - 5.5" is perfect for my hands.
[General Topics] force70:
If it was a non edge 5.5 screen it would still be too small for me but I could live with it given the other pluses of the device. But 5.5 with that edge design honestly seemed tiny too look at, it was awful...just can't do it lol.

Hoping the note 6 will be like the S7 just a bigger screen

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[General Topics] terragady:
what are the other pluses? :)
[General Topics] force70:
More powerful chip set than note 5 and SD card support is back.

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
And waterproofing[emoji14]
[General Topics] nunotechsilva:
I want to change my Samsung Galaxy S6 but i honestly dont know to what one i should change... sugestions??

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im thinking to change to the s7 but im not sure it is a big upgrade... just unsure about it.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
If you have money , needs an sd card and care about waterproofing then it's worth. But the S6 is still a great device and can handle everything you want in the next 3/4 years.
[General Topics] myawan:
I have heard quite bad things about s6 battery.....?
[General Topics] s629c:
It's not bad, but it's nothing to be proud of though. I average ~2.5 sot which isn't that great but MM should help a little though once i get it.

You should save your money and wait for next year. S6 is enough to wait another year at least. S8 can only be better than the S7
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
I'm from Germany too so the most China phones are nothing for me because of the missing LTE band and even if my network provider(Congstar) doesn't support LTE, I want to have it in case I want to change my provider or congstar supports it. I'm waiting for the German Edition of the OnePlus 3, I think this will be a great device. Maybe with 3D touch, that would be awesome...
[General Topics] 3di:
I hope they' Don't cheap out an 2k Amoled screen, 'cause VR is right about getting serious now..

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[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Yes 2k would be nice. But for normal use Full HD is more than enough. But if we get 2k screen than they have to give us a big battery too!
[General Topics] SirVer:
That probably isn't an issue with today's panel technology, as seen with the S7. Hell, I get 4 hours SOT minimum on my G3, and it was notorious for being inefficient with 2K. Performance won't be an issue either, since modern chipsets can easily handle 2K.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
2k is useless in my opinion , yes it's great to have a screen with this resolution but FHD is more than enough. I currently have an A5 2016 which is full HD , and believe me if i hide the specs you will think it's 2K , colors are so accurate and bright , nothing to complain about.
[General Topics] myawan:
Whenever we are able to get more battery juice out of new gen processor, we cram a higher resolution to compensate for added advantages :(

Waiting for a true modular phone......
[General Topics] SirVer:
Normally, I'd agree with you (I've wished many times that the G3 was 1080p), but with the coming age of VR, it's better to introduce 2K as a standard amongst the higher-mid to high end, so fewer people will need to upgrade for it, especially since most of the drawbacks of 2K have been reduced over the last couple of years, and will probably be eliminated entirely before another year goes by. Technology marches on.

*sigh* What a time to be alive. ?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
If i can still get 2 days of battery life with a 2K screen , it is welcome of course :D ( s7 edge for example ) , but when you see some phones strugeling with that resolution , you wish it was FHD.

So yeah i agree with you ;)
[General Topics] myawan:
Whenever I hear the word VR, my eyes hurt......are they really safe for eyesight?
[General Topics] 3di:
I agree. In everyday use the 2k screen of the G3 isn't usefull, you can t see pixels with the naked eye - but I tried it for VR, vs a S5 and G2, and I was able to see the difference trough the Optics of the VR frame.

So i think 2k is more Future proof.

Unfortunately the screen of the G3 isn't so beautiful in colours like an Amoled is.

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[General Topics] borotoid arts:
my next device will be samsung 100%)
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Why?
[General Topics] borotoid arts:
since 2009 i use only samsung devices, im sure they have better quality/price then others brands
[General Topics] 3di:
I used to buy Samsung devices from the Omina II on, but i think you should have a look around too, i was never disapointed.

It is said "the ability to take the broader view and mutual understanding are essential for success"

:o

Best regards.
[General Topics] SirVer:
You may want to resample the market a little - 2009 was a looong time ago. Trust me, when it's time to get your next device, ask around for the best quality/price device that's not Samsung; you may not end up liking it better, but you'll probably like it at least as much, and you'll have broadened your horizons a little in the process. ?
[General Topics] Planterz:
Samsung....I don't know how I feel about them these days. I've owned 2, a cheap POS called the Galaxy Light that I hulk-smashed, and I've got a 2nd hand S4. I have no complaints about the S4. Removable battery, and I've got a 200 gig microSD card in there. 200gig microSD card...that still blows my mind. It's great that the S7's brought back microSD card slot, but the removable battery thing, or lack thereof, puts me off. My OPO and now Nexus 6 don't have them either, but I know that if it comes to it I can take them apart and do it myself. Until the S6, Samsung was ugly. Fugly. But they were practical. Now they're pretty, but less practical. I'll take practical over pretty.
[General Topics] jasonminato:
Galaxy s5 its really good not to pretty but it has good battery live its much cheaper now and it can still compete with the big boys . don't get the g900h model if custom rom support is your thing and the best model to get is the Korean model