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[General Topics] Jordan1200:
I was thinking about buying the Nexus 6P but this is making me think twice.

https://youtu.be/VVIGJCAx-I8
[General Topics] sbacham:
Nexus 6p.
[General Topics] force70:
I could see why but it is great phone regardless of the somewhat false wording on google site. I really enjoyed my 6P plastic or otherwise :D

That said with the new nexus phones coming out in a few months Id wait to see what they bring to the table instead of buying a year old device. Unless you absolutely need a new phone now of course.
[General Topics] Jordan1200:
Yes unfortunately I do need a phone soon. Also, when the new Nexus phones come out they will be top dollar again..Phones are more expensive up here in Canada and our 13% tax sucks too.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Take an old flagship instead with the same price.
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Either the Idol 3 or G4 Plus. The Idol 3 already has great custom ROM support on XDA. The G4 Plus should get the same treatment if Lenovo plays ball. The camera is better on the G4 Plus though.
[General Topics] force70:
Im also in Canada so trust me I know. I still buy a new note and nexus every year though lol.. bought the note 5 and 6P 3 days apart last year lol.

6P is nice, 128gb of storage, the stereo speakers and 5.7" screen...its hard to beat. I just didnt find it very comfortable to hold nor particularly asthetically pleasing..used my note 5 way more even though the 64gb of storage wasnt ideal.
[General Topics] matteon:
New "secure" phone

I'm coming from a moto g first gen. My phone expected life is 2 years according to previous phones I've owned.

What am I searching? Well I'm focusing on a bit of security in software. For those who know linux I'm the kind of guy who uses centos on servers, ubuntu LTS or debian stable on vms or desktop, I'm not in search for the latest and greatest but proper patch level adherence in android.

I don't really bother about void warranty. Lets face it: in my country (italy) consumers devices have no SLA nor you can expect anything from repair shops, so in case of damage I still need to buy a second phone for temporary patch.

I'm asking you: what alternatives are here to nexus? I've red that sony seems good at following patch levels. Cyanogen (in case I'll buy and root a phone) seems to release stables now and then without strict montly patches. What about other roms?

In the end which are the alternatives to nexus (both stock or aftermarket) for a proper security patch coverage? I'm I "cursed" to buy a nexus or may I pick from supported devices of any of existent roms?

to narrow specs: I'm searching for something in the range € 200-250, between 4.7'' and 5.2'', 16-32 GB disk, 2+ GB ram, decent camera, wifi N (2.4 is ok, never used 5 ghz), basically don't care so much about other specs, just get good battery runtime.

Thank you,

M

PS: Potential buy is Nexus 5X (supported by google for next 2 years, and available around € 230 on some italian on line shops) but battery runtimes are not so good
[General Topics] josip-k:
Oneplus x
[General Topics] matteon:
May you argument a bit :)
[General Topics] xero4zero:
I am using S3 mini but I am suffering from a slow performance issues. What should I buy in the same price range and what if I can afford a more expensive one?? Higher processing power and bigger storage is a must.

I have installed CyanogenMod v12.1 Lollipop on my S3 Mini & I love it but S3 Mini is is too slow for my needs I need more processing power. So my next mobile must CyanogenMod Freindly :) .. I will format & reinstall it on ...

Thanks in advance
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
if you want secure then CopperheadOS phones are second to none https://copperhead.co/android/buy or Silent Circle https://www.silentcircle.com/.. or just use Cyanogenmod flash on your own.
[General Topics] Epistemic:
People coming on this thread looking for a mid-range phone really need to try and appreciate what Huawei can offer them.

"P9 Lite 3gb variant"

For £200 pound there's no way - given the current market - people should be turning their nose up at the P9 Lite. The phone is not only equal in ability to many 'above mid range' phones, but it transcends them putting itself as a top tier phone. I personally think it's not far away from flagship level, if people disagree I would just urge them to go and experience the performance.

There's no budget phone on the market that I personally think touches it. But as I always say, don't construe budget for quality/performance.

Just lately I've been able to play with quite a few phones. I constantly like to have a feel what's on the MARKET, and the P9 Lite is quite frankly excellent in regards to what you're paying for. Now, I'm not trying to be a fan boy, I'm just stating a fact in regards to cost and performance. I'm also not ignorant to other good budget phones: Alcatel IDOL 4, One Plus 3, A5, Moto G4 Plus, Moto G,, Honor x5...ect

The P9Lite will almost certainly receive Android 7. The P9 has already had a leak of Android 7. (Let's not forget huawei made the new Nexus 6P)

The camera is 13mp back, 8mp front. Very good quality.

2gb/3gb ram variants. I would obviously say ignore the 2gb version.

16gb internal memory.

1080p 421ppi display, 5.2"

3000 mh battery.

Fingerprint sensor. Which is very fast and shockingly good for the cost of the phone.

This is my thoughts on what I feel is the best budget phone on the MARKET is.

Cheers.
[General Topics] galaxyms:
Does anyone have any recommendations for the best budget around $100 phone currently available from chinese shops?. Something like the Bluboo X Touch but better and more ROM support?
[General Topics] galaxyms:
13% ! Think yourself lucky you don't pay 20% tax like we do in the UK
[General Topics] Epistemic:
Its ridiculous.
[General Topics] iMaterial:
Or 25% moms (VAT / Sales TAX) as we do here in Scandinavia. :-/

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Check out how much mobile phones are in Brazil, unless it's a real deal and subsidized, an iphone 6+ costs about €1200 or so, just to give an example. Most of the popular phones costs 2x the Euro price, which is ridiculous.
[General Topics] Jordan1200:
Well I decided in a Nexus 6P 64 Gig. Got it brand new in the box taxes in for 550 Canadian

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[General Topics] Epistemic:
That's crazy, iPhone are ridiculously priced anyway, without austerity making it virtually impossible to by a phone.
[General Topics] joger226:
Huawei or Nokia with Android (this Q4-2016). I'm kinda curious about these phones.

Hope Nokia will perform well this time.
[General Topics] NOSTALGIA:
anyone here who has the nexus 5x? how is it?? is it still worth having?
[General Topics] ice-queen:
I love samsung when i 17 years old, its my first smartphone. Now, i still use samsung.:p
[General Topics] iPeck:
I kinda go with what suits my moment needs best. My 1st was HTC Nexus 1 then Samsung Galaxy Nexus to Sony Xperia ZL, Galaxy S5 and now I just got a LG G5 wich i absolutely love besides the ugly UI. Holding my breath for root ;)
[General Topics] josip-k:
And no one cares. :)
[General Topics] matteon:
Nexus 5x is now a veeery good high-mid range phone better eg than moto g4. It will be upgraded to N and supported for other 2 years with security fixes.

This said I'm going to buy one, only cocern is battery life not so long (aroung 8.5 hours of wifi-ing vs around 11 of moto g4)

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As far as I know it is a third party with grant for using nokia brand. Not a real nokia phone
[General Topics] pkgamma:
I wan't to get the Samsung S7 but I'm not sure if it is worth to upgrade from S6.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
I will probably buy the ZTE Axon 7. It costs 449€ here in Germany and I like it much. There are many people out there who would say, take the OP3, it has more dev support and costs 50€ less...but I thought a lot about this and first I wanted to get the OP3 but the Axon 7 is better in almost every way. Except dev support and low light pictures but this are two things, which are not probably only hardware related. ZTE gave the chance to unlock the bootloader of the Axon 7 and the device sources are published now. And I think the low light pictures could be better with some software updates/custom ROMs. I would like you to share your opinion but please be fair and friendly :)
[General Topics] force70:
Just for the sd card it is. thats why i moved to the note 7 from the note 5.
[General Topics] Planterz:
Usually, I don't think it's worth it to upgrade flagships each year (but rather every other year) unless there's a significant reason to, and in this case, there's a few. As force70 said, the microSD card slot is a major reason to go with the S7 (for some people). Plus the phone is waterproof. Furthermore, if you're buying off-contract, get the unlocked international version. It'll have all of AT&T's LTE bands, but none of the AT&T hassle. No carrier bloat, no waiting excessively long for updates, and the international ones with the Exynos processor have unlocked bootloaders/TWRP/root.

Don't ignore the S7 Edge though. For being a 5.5" phone it's amazingly compact and has a significantly larger battery than the S7.

Dang, 449€ for a phone we can get for $400 in the US. I guess that's not unique to the Axon though.

I'm intrigued by the Axon 7 myself. Pretty much all of the reviews I've read agree on some short-comings with their UI, but that the hardware is great. AMOLED screen, great speakers, etc. I haven't looked into development for the Axon 7 since I'm not really in the market for a new phone, but I can tell you (as a Nexus 6 owner) that you'll love the front-facing stereo speakers.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Yeah, audio is a big reason for me to buy it. And I don't really know, why manufactures are building phones with back-facing speakers, because if I want to watch or video, the sound goes in the back, not in the front to my face. I'm currently owning a Sony Xperia L and audio was great as I bought it and it is still good.
[General Topics] Planterz:
I'd rather have a rear speaker than a bottom one, because although it's facing the wrong way, at least it's neutral. Bottom firing speakers (ala newer Samsungs, iPhones, OnePlus) can sound fine, but when you're watching a video or playing a game, the sound is coming from one side and just doesn't work well.
[General Topics] force70:
The speaker on this note 7 is terrible, would much rather have better sound and no waterproofing.

My note 4 kills this Note 7 in the speaker dept
[General Topics] AbuYahya:
have sammy's s5 at present... i hate 24months contracts.... in the early days when i got XDA2 we could get it on a 12m contract.... not sure why the inflation costs are so high.

i have been away from the the tinkering side of things for a long while due to real life responsibilities but i want to try an d get back into it ...so want a device that has good community support .... was thinking of s7edge but the support doesnt look as impressive as i was expecting. ...think the note7 will be similar... so i am wondering to hold out for the next nexus in the october....

...what are thoughts on community development?
[General Topics] deerhurst:
Hey guys. Having a horrible time selecting a new phone. Budget can be flexible if it will last me a few years. Looking to upgrade as my carrier is not doing much with the only LTE band my phone supports. I also struggle to get service without roaming in areas newer devices on the same carrier has service. Love everything else about my phone.

Currently I have a Sony Xperia Z on Tmobile.

Requirements:

1080p or better display

SD card slot

Android

Similar or better CPU/GPU than my Z (1.5GHz quad core)

LTE bands 2,4&12

NFC

Preferences:

Water resistant - at least IP68, I use this feature on my Z more than I probably should.

Decent camera

Glass front and back or aluminum backed

Good XDA community

Will not consider:

Apple - hate iOS and ecosystem but has fantastic build quality.

Samsung - Hate the UI and build quality sucks.

Stuff I'm considering:

Z5

Oneplus 3

Nexbit Robin

I really like the look of the Turing phone but seems impossible to o actually get one.

What do you guys suggest?
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Yeah you're right...so the conclusion is, that front-facing speakers are the best, I like HTC for them but don't know, why the went back from them.
[General Topics] tarmiricmitarmiricmi:
Hi all, I need a suggestion. Need a new phone, my budget is low (100-150 USD). The best what I could get is a Lenovo K3 Note (cheapest is around 110 USD). Are there any worthy alternatives in this price range? Important stuff to me are Antutu of at least 35-40.000, RAM 2 GB/3 preferred, 16 GB ROM (32 preferred), Android 5 (6 preferred) and a decent baterry life. I'm located in Eastern Europe and would buy online.
[General Topics] ComiKo:
Samsung S6 sm-920 vs. Motorola Moto X Pure Edition (Moto X Style)

Hi everybody

I have around 300 USD and I need a phone, the last one was an LG G3 but I selled because reboot constantly. I don't want to hear about LG anymore. I am a little gamer, could anybody help me to choose a good phone, I think Samsung S6 SM-920 or Motorola Moto X Pure Edition are my first choices. I need your comments. Thanks in advance...
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Save a little bit more and buy the Oneplus 3
[General Topics] zelendel:
If you are big into gaming avoid the developer friendly devices like the nexus or others and get one of the flagships like the s6. You will get better gaming out of it.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Why?
[General Topics] zelendel:
Most app developers target those devices. It also comes down to the diff between a company that can spend millions on making drivers and such versus the open source ones. Same reason you lose alot of function when you use an aosp based rom on say a Samsung or HTC device. Open source just can't compete with the oems.

My answer would have been diff if gaming wasn't a big thing for the user.
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
the Huawei Honor 8 sounds and looks pretty good to me https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iZSqfotWkAI i like that the fingerprint scanner can be used multiple functions eg to take photos etc. speed tests seem very good compared to S7/note7 apparently. its on my top wishlist for next phone (next to note 7). some xda threads already up http://xdaforums.com/honor-8
[General Topics] Epistemic:
P8 lite
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
It sounded nice for me too until I heard about the Kirin 950. It's the flagship processor for the chinese phones in 2015 and the Huawei Mate 8 has it too. You will have a lot fewer development like you would have with a SnapDragon one. And the speed is a lot slower, it's only like a SD 805. GPU is a lot worse than for SD processors. Maybe you will get overheating issues too. My friend has a Honor 6 and it hangs very often, it probably is not the software because he got the MM update but still the lags.
[General Topics] bubu1:
It depends on the money I earned.：D
[General Topics] goofy3:
Hi,

I'm searching upgrade from N5. My main focus is best camera. I don't wanna big phone, so the best would be 5'. Also it would be nice to have easy root and some rom to choose. My budget is around price of LG G5. I'm also thinking about this phone, I know it's bigger with lack of support but cameras are tempting :)

Cheers,

Mark
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Yes yes i understand thanks,i'm using an S6 too.
[General Topics] Planterz:
Maybe wait until next month when the HTC Nexus "Marlin" is released?
[General Topics] goofy3:
If new Nexus, then Sailfish ;) But in my country with taxes it will be over my budget :(
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
point taken..but the honor 8 is "almost" half the price of an S7. would be good to know if Huawei ironed out those gremlins in the honor 8..
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
What are gremlins?
[General Topics] xero4zero:
Any help
[General Topics] nissansentra2.0ser:
chinese smartphones

Hey guys,

Im looking to spend around $250 on a new or used phone. I want one with 3500 mah batter or greater 4 gig ram or greater 8 cores or greater. screen size from 5-6 inches. I need band 12 for tmobile. I am wondering if you can unlock that particular band on any of these Chinese smartphones with QUALCOMM processors. The closest thing is the moto x play, but its a little bit on the slow side. Anyways any help would be appreciated!
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Why do you ask for "8 cores or greater"? Is there even a phone out there with more than 8 cores? And the most powerful processor at the moment is the SnapDragon 820, and it has "only" 4 cores and is a lot stronger than the SD 810 with 8 cores!
[General Topics] nissansentra2.0ser:
well I guess im open for suggestions. Just want something that responds quickly when you click on it. For example like when you click on the web browser it just loads and doesn't slow up. I have a galaxy s5 active which is slow to load has a lot of bloat ware and loads slowly and I burn through the battery twice daily. what where you thinking?
[General Topics] krby0:
need new phone

so my phone is crapping out on me and i just needed some suggestions. im not very picky but what i do want in a phone is...

BATTERY LIFE

id also like the possibility of installing aftermarket bulky batteries if needed

STABILITY

a phone that wont clash too much with the big roms out there.

SENSIBLE PROCESSING POWER

i dont need 16 gigs of ram or 8 cores on my CPU. I only use my phone for some light internet surfing, GPS navigation, and writing emails/notes. oh and talk and texting i guess...

i dont believe that much to ask for, appearances dont matter much either, it could be a brick for all i care.
[General Topics] 1ondroid:
Budget?
[General Topics] Planterz:
Since you said "mobile", and that you've got CyanogenMod on your S3 Mini, I'm guessing you're in Europe or Asia (no CM on the S3 Minis from US carriers).

How big of a phone are you willing to go, and how new/expensive? I've got an S4 Mini myself (AT&T - locked bootloader so no custom ROMs) and it's surprisingly decent given its age and hardware. If you want to keep the size small, your options are somewhat limited. I don't know where you are, so it's hard to make recommendations because I don't know what might be available.

I wouldn't expect to be able to unlock LTE bands - a device has to physically support particular LTE bands, and if a phone is marketed to specific regions (like SE Asia), it's unlikely the manufacturer would bother (ie: spend more money) to include them. That's why all those really cheap but amazing Chinese phones only have like bands 3/7/20.

How about a Note 4? You can get them for pretty cheap these days. The SD805 will do anything you'd want a phone to do. "Only" 3 gigs of RAM, but once you disable all the Samsung and T-Mobile bloat, that's plenty. MicroSD card slot, removable battery (buy a new one though), great camera, and fantastic screen. What more could you want? Band 12? It's got that too (just get the T-Mobile one).

When you feed your Mogwai after midnight, it turns from Howie Mandel into Frank Welker, and that's a gremlin. It's also a crappy car by AMC.

But seriously, a gremlin is a mischievous little imp or demon, blamed for little things going wrong (they hide your keys, steal socks out of your laundry, etc). In software terms, a gremlin is a bug or annoying thing that should be fixed.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
That's the problem with chinese devices...I live in Germany and Band 20 is very important here, but no chinese device supports it.

Thanks :D
[General Topics] krby0:
Around $250 but I'd like one preferably a lot cheaper like $100 as I do see a lot of inexpensive smartphones around $100
[General Topics] Aghora7:
250 for moto g4
[General Topics] xero4zero:
First I would like to thank you for your reply.

I will buy it from the Saudi Arabia I am willing to spend around 300 $ equivalent on a new bigger sized mobile unfortunately my first choice was Note 4, because of the higher processing power, removable extended battery, cyanogenmod friendly, external SD Memory, but is requires a bit higher budget costs around 400 - 450 $ there. So I am not sure what else should I buy??
[General Topics] BlueFlame4:
Hey guys,

As an MTK developer I am a bit fed up with them at the moment and would like to get a Qualcomm powered one with active community.

Criteria:

* Price not more than 200€

* Good fingerprint sensor

* 3 GB RAM

* Qualcomm chipset

* Big battery (3800 mAH or more)

So far the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro looks very promising. Is there any other phone that you guys can recommend?
[General Topics] limjh16:
Lol the blu r1 prime

But anyways redmi note 3 is the best you can get IMO, the redmi 3 has a worse chipset while no other phone has such a bug battery for this price. It has a real good development community too!
[General Topics] blitzkrieg19:
Snapdragon 617 - Moto G4 Plus pr Moto G 4th Gen
[General Topics] DrNet:
note 7 maybe
[General Topics] EdgeTheraited:
Guys i need new phone im selling my phone and need new phone that Has fast charging ,qualcomm ,has great XDA support with custom roms and be maximum 400$
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
OnePlus 3
[General Topics] EdgeTheraited:
do you recommend it because im going to sell my phone for it
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
I would go for the ZTE Axon 7 but if you need a lot of ROMs then you're right with the OP3. BTW which phone do you have right now?
[General Topics] EdgeTheraited:
ZTE axon mini
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
And what is wrong with this phone?
[General Topics] EdgeTheraited:
no updates and no screen protector
[General Topics] Rusty!:
You'll get a Sensation off eBay for that, no trouble.
[General Topics] imobileface:
i will buy both iphone 5 and samsung galaxy s3
[General Topics] adomm420:
You're one spoiled kid :D
[General Topics] cotarelo:
I came from iPhone 3 and I have now Samsung Galaxy S3...

I think my next one would be Windows phone 8 phone...
[General Topics] siravarice:
Waiting to see what this LG Nexus phone is like, hoping it's pretty decent as I want a Nexus phone. Tired of all the Manufacturers skins!
[General Topics] klosx:
SGS III
[General Topics] tuner2000:
first i was very attracted by Samsung Galaxy S III, but then i realized the whole plastic design.. nothing for me..!

i think i will choose HTC One X+, great phone! :D
[General Topics] sdg1980:
when is enough?

it won't be too long when phones will have 100 GB internal memory and 8 GB RAM and still we'd be quibbling about the specs. I have the Infuse CM10 running 4.1.2, so my next upgrade would be either Samsung or HTC (4.5 inch or less) handset.
[General Topics] greenblue:
I would get a Galaxy Note II if Samsung would provide the proper Exynos documentation. The rumored 5" HTC phone sounds interesting too.
[General Topics] matyhew:
Its not a smartphone as such but I'm getting the nexus 7 tablet =]

I've had a LG optimus gt540 and HTC wildfire s for smartphones.
[General Topics] nxdu:
Whatever Nexus that is 4" or less.
[General Topics] thebeastglasser:
HTC ONE X! Despite the fact that you practically have to fornicate with HTC phones to get them to work for you, they do make some pretty nice looking hardware.
[General Topics] Stensfie:
galaxy note 2
[General Topics] can80an:
I will likely be upgrading my Nexus S with another Nexus, hopefully one with support for external storage ...
[General Topics] SimonTS:
Mine is the LG Optimus 4X HD - being delivered to my local store on Thursday for collection on Saturday :D

Fantastic phone, removeable battery, microSD support and on a contract whereby I will pay no more over 2 years for the contract than it would cost me to buy the phone outright now.
[General Topics] adomm420:
How about waiting till lg nexus announce? It will be better because it will get all android updates...
[General Topics] SimonTS:
And the next Nexus (or Nexuses, Nexi or whatever) will have no removable battery and no expandable storage because Google want everything in the cloud.
[General Topics] FromLimbo:
I probably get a newer Galaxy S when it gets out :D
[General Topics] adomm420:
You're free to choose storage or support :)