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[Acer Iconia A500] threedfreek:
I was very excited to get ICS when I saw the upgrade notice... I waited for it to update and when finished my wifi would cause the tab to reboot... If I went in before it crashed and turned wifi off then it would boot and almost normally run... but you have to have wifi... acer told me to factory... well, I asked if the internal 16gb would be deleted and was told no... guess what? factory will delete all your stuff... dude!!! (most of it I had back ups.. the pics suck so bad no loss there) anyway, after factory all seemed well... then something mysterious happened... the home screen flickered until all of the icons dissappeared... so I hit the menu button and was greeted to a blank black screen... imagine my discomfort... I set out to find the culprit... after rebooting I tried to run the same apps until I found the problem... seems I can get this to react when I load a web page with HD flash on it... it will run fine then I will full screen it with the little square at the bottom right... when I close the browser and goto the home screen I will get the flicker... and sometimes it will hide all the elements on the screen... so is it a bad flash (for the second time) or is it a conflict with Browser/Flash maybe consuming all the memory or something... I'd like to know how to fix this because my once stellar tab has prompted me to eye the samsung note 10.1 very seriously!!!
[Acer Iconia A500] Sledgexiv:
UPDATE Dis-app-ointed with ICS UPDATE

Well people after having a week or so to play with ICS on my a500 and not being too hasty to return to flawless HC bliss.

So results SUCCESS - I powered down tab and restarted after passed lock screen immediate message saying "winamp fail......" step UNINSTALLED winamp result is I have not experienced flickering Gmail or unstable apps since. Hope this helps someone. I figure instability issues in apps was app related. Apart from Asphalt 6 which still does not load because it cannot play its startup video
[Acer Iconia A500] pilotferdi:
Pros and cons on ICS

I would not jump to make strong suggestions (heck, not even weak suggestions! :D) based on a limited experience. I would do more research and testing before making a suggestion. Many more users (myself included) are happy with ICS than those who experienced some problems after the upgrade. As with any other electronic gadget these days, there are differences between devices manufactured for a specific market (US, Europe, Asian).

That being said, I updated to ICS. The update did not go without pains, however, I do not blame Acer (or Google) for them; they were of my own making. I rooted the tablet, and although did not install a custom ROM - it was the original Acer 3.2.1, the upgrade rebooted the tablet at 67% of the process. The result: a bricked tablet. I did some research, found an original Acer 3.2.1 ROM on Acer A500 development forum ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1113878), installed it from a microSD card, and went through all Acer HC updates. After that, the ICS upgrade process went all right, and I am happily typing on my ICS-powered A500.

PROS:

1. Faster touch response

2. More responsive and faster browser

3. Folders creation

4. Slick interface, with apps/widgets pages uncluttered. I like how the pages fade in when scrolling through apps/widgets pages.

5. So far, none of my apps did a Force Close

6. The ability to delete all notifications at once instead of one-by-one.

7. Cleaner "Settings" interface.

8. Smooth scrolling.

CONS:

1. The writing pointer sometimes is jittery - if I inserted a "Return" between lines/paragraphs, it jumps from where I touch the screen to the next line.

2. Removed the option to move apps on external (micro)SD card.

3. GPS functionality not improved

4. I don't understand the purpose for a screen lock ring without an unlocking challenge (i.e., password or pattern).

5. Regarding Acer's interface and apps: Acer still adds useless bloatware that cannot be removed unless you root your tablet, weather widget still displays only one location, LumiRead still does not import cover pages for some books, especially those from Feedbooks, LumiRead "forgot" the nice wooden shelves background.

6. Acer made harder to remove their bloatware from the rooted tablet.

7. Have to manually reconnect to WiFi after a power off. The tablet won't reconnect automagically.

That's it for now. I'll revisit one I found new Pros/Cons.
[Acer Iconia A500] ezterry:
Freeze the apps

Ie. Goto the app in settings, select 'disable' then select delete data

Not after reboot anyway the app will not run, and not use any space on /data

It will use space in the read only /system but that is read only anyway so you wont have access to the free space. it will also still be installed for a clean incremental update and wont need root.

(It wont even display the app in the launcher when disabled.. this is more than hide its unless its re-enabled or you are looking at the application list pretend its not installed)
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
From a business perspective, they're not simply selling you a phone or a tablet. They're selling you an interface to generate them more money. Thus the crapware installed like Blockbuster apps, Netflix apps, game demos, etc. Root access means being able to delete crapware... that earns money after the purchase.

Companies aren't trying to better the world, they're trying to earn income for their stockholders.
[Acer Iconia A500] Pyra Gorgon:
Freeze the apps

Ie. Goto the app in settings, select 'disable' then select delete data

Not after reboot anyway the app will not run, and not use any space on /data It will use space in the read only /system but that is read only anyway so you wont have access to the free space. it will also still be installed for a clean incremental update and wont need root.

(It wont even display the app in the launcher when disabled.. this is more than hide its unless its re-enabled or you are looking at the application list pretend its not installed)

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@ ezterry:

I disagree, ezterry. No offense, but I find your solution unacceptable. Your stance is more like a Clinton-ized "Don't ask, don't tell" philosophy applied to android.

Bottom line: its still there.

There's a slang for that: those "disabled" apps/programs that clutter up registries and root level file systems are called "corpses".

I troubleshoot windows OS's and I have made many $$$ going into people's registries and removing all those corpses and bits~n~pieces of junk left over from poorly made uninstallers or programs whose main purpose is advertisement/ trialware.

That stuff adds up over time. Besides all that, its the point of it all. Your system is not 'clean' if you have muck in there you have to pretend does not exist.

Perhaps for you, that is acceptable. For those of us who suffer from OCD type personalities, having non removable and useless clutter on our computers irks us incessantly. Computers are very personal items, I carry my tablet as much as I do my purse. Why must we keep what we don't want on them?
[Milestone 2 General] nicofff:
I found a way to write arbritary data to local.prop

Right now my local.prop (after reboot) looks like this

ro.sys.atvc_allow_netmon_usb=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_netmon_usb=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_netmon_ih=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_res_core=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_res_panic=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_core=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_efem=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_bp_log=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_ap_mot_log=0
ro.sys.atvc_allow_gki_log=0
#: comparing /system/preinstall/md5/#.md5 and /data/preinstall_md5/#.md5
#: install skipped, file unchanged
#: comparing /system/preinstall/md5/#.md5 and /data/preinstall_md5/#.md5
#: install skipped, file unchanged
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#: comparing /system/preinstall/md5/ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#.md5 and /data/preinstall_md5/ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#.md5
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#: install attempt 1 of 5 failed
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#: install attempt 2 of 5 failed
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#: install attempt 3 of 5 failed
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#: install attempt 4 of 5 failed
ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#: install attempt 5 of 5 failed
preinstall finished, setting preinstall.done to 1
preinstall exiting...

I've tried a few variants, but adb keeps droping its root privileges. "adb root" and "adb remount" don't work either.

I'm guessing that either the local.prop gets parsed before the script runs, or that the garbage at the end prevents it from loading.

My knowledge of android died there, so if someone has any idea what can be tried, i'll give it a go.

How did i get there (in case someone wants to do the same):

I found out that on boot a script is run by the root user (/system/bin/installpreloads.sh) that writes /data/preinstall_md5/log.txt

/data/preinstall is world-writable, so i just deleted log.txt, and replaced it with a (soft) symbolic link to /data/local.prop.

Rebooted the phone and checked local.prop, and there was the output of the script.

Now, what it was writing at that point was no good (it was checking whether adobe flash app was installed), but there was a sign of hope:

The lines started with the app name (com.adobe.flashplayer, or something like that)

I took a look at the script and it checks for the apps in /preload (which is only readable by system so no chance to change that) and writes to the log file the names of the files it finds there.

A couple of days later, i realized (toying with sbf_flash) that the preinstall partition, isn't signed.

So i can change whatever i want on it, flash it with sbf_flash, and get the data i want into local.prop.

So i downloaded the Personal GB sbf and extracted it with the motorola depacker.

Luckily the preinstall patition is ext3, so i just mounted it changed the adobe package for one called "ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1#", unmounted it, flashed it and on next boot, my local.prop looked like that.
[Milestone 2 General] nicofff:
Please, anyone?

I know most of milestones 2 around the world are running rootable ROM's, but here in Argentina and Brasil, we are stuck with an unrootable 2.3.6 ROM.

I'd just like a tip on what to try next, or at least know whether it's not posible.

I feel I'm just a tweak away of rooting this ROMs, but I don't know what to do next.

Anything, any idea is welcomed.

Please...
[Milestone 2 General] sahilarora911:
Try to PM the devs e.g. tezet, sfc3001, --UFO--, Endless7, r2beta0 etc. Or may be even someone from Defy Devs like Quarkx n Epsylon3
[Milestone 2 General] mdshann:
Has there been any more progress with this?
[Milestone 2 General] sakyr:
Error -bad way

ADB shell write: permission denied!!!!! = ro.sys.atvc_allow_netmon_usb=0
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
well, i'm confused yet again. i see someone who has been charged, yet i haven't been. should i be worried?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Squeak22:
You are charged when it ships. Did it ship?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] s.m.knipe:
They said they will "hold" the amount from the account and then apply the charge when it ships... Depending on how your bank processes holds (or freezes), it may show up as a charge, but the date will likely change to the ship date when the charge is applied...

Like my current bank shows it as a "D/C Settlement" with Monday's date, when the phone ships it will be a charge, the "D/C/ Settlement" tag will be removed, and it will have the ship date's date (Exactly like how it happened with my Atrix last year). At my old bank (BB&T) it would show up as a charge from whenever they applied the hold, then the date would change later (which is what happened with my Captivate)... It just depends on the bank for how they handle the codes on their end.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
lol, i wish, i still haven't been charged :/
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
I have not been charged. Pre-ordered early Sunday PST, online system still says "In Process" and does not show backordered.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] UMGixxer:
My credit card shows it as a pending charge so far but it's only been one day.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Same here...I see it as a pending charge.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
my order status changed in style but still says preorder, not backorder.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mrvirginia:
my card hasn't been charged but the funds have most certainly been reserved. that's basically the same thing as being charged. it's money you can no longer use.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
that's just it, my account says i have it, my atm say it too, i could spend it if i wanted (of course if i fell below 600, the order wouldn't go through).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
I ordered Monday from a store, bank account shows nothing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] IXIKelsonIXI:
Like somebody else said, it depends on how your bank handles holds. You aren't actually charged until shipment. But for my bank there was a hold for the amount, but holds disappear after about three days without actual charge, so it is gone now. If it never showed up, don't sweat. Banks handle things differently.

Rabble rabble rabble.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] randomnameftw:
I won't get charged till it ships, so no for me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
Everyone just needs to relax. Wether you're charged or not involves many factors, some AT&T can't control. If you go an order confirmation just wait.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] designgears:
A pending charge isn't "charged", mine is pending and has been since I placed my order.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Gun Bunny:
This is a quote from the e-mail I got, and yes, the money in my account is on hold.

"Please note, your credit card will be charged at time of shipment. If using either a credit or debit card, funds in the amount of this purchase will be immediately held and not available for other use. Credit and debit card transactions will not appear in your account until time of shipment."
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
But it depends how your bank works with holds, for me they charged it. Everything should be just fine on wednesday for everyone that ordered.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] amswak:
It amuses me when people post things like this in these forums. lol...you know this is as effective as telling a fiending crack addict to just chill, right? It is a waste of keystrokes...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] UMGixxer:
it does suck to post stuff like this but at this point our ATT HOX needs all of the threads when can get to reach the requirement of posts or threads so its all good right now
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
And your post was helpful how? If you're going to criticize someone by doing the same thing and wasting keystrokes you can go somewhere else. If my post was thanked it helped someone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] filthyfnj24:
Ok guys, the title says it all. Do you plan on living with your One XL the way HTC intended it to be or do you plan on living on the wild side? Despite the non removable battery I plan on rooting as soon as we get some good roms. For me that's half the fun of android, as soon as I get bored with one rom I flash a new one! However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery. So what will it be for you?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] david_ag:
I"m on a similar situation, but will Rom away.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kevina90:
definitely. and not having a removable battery isnt a problem, if you long hold the power button for 10 sec, the device will auto shutdown and simulate a battery pull.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
i will root as soon as available so my root apps work and i can tether. i usually don't rom until roms are tried and true unless i'm testing. i'm not a fan of bugs and alphas.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] s.m.knipe:
Hold the power button for 10+ seconds. According to the One X manual on HTC's website that will be the equivalent of a battery pull. And several users of the International version have confirmed that this works
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mrvirginia:
def unlocking and rooting asap. always do.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] danada:
Definitely will root, probably going to have to flash the radio to get AWS working for WCDMA.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
Probably wont root. Im going to stay fully stock and see if everything is fine. If i need more enhancements/mods i will sign my phone away to htcdev :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] htcvarona:
So I'm kind of a newb at rooting (I've only rooted the htc inspire) does anyone know how to root it already or are we going to have to wait till the device comes out on AT&T?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] UMGixxer:
Will definitely root it but I'm gonna hold off on the roms for a while
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] randomnameftw:
Rooting it to remove bloat. Might flash a rom if it's stock ICS themed.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bradleyG:
I'll probably root/ROM mine after a few days of being stock.

I want to try out some vanilla ICS on it, but who knows maybe it will be perfect the way it is :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] E.Cadro:
Will be rooting as soon as possible I use to many apps that require root. May stick with sense for a while but will certainly do something about the green battery icon I really hate it.

Sent from wherever I am!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ~David:
I'm not particularly interested in rooting any more these days, but I think I would prefer stock ICS again.

While Sense 4.0 is an improvement over past versions, it is still far too bloated and cluttered. Having only 9GB of available space on a 16GB device is unacceptable :\
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bongd:
I've never not rooted or flashed a different ROM on my device. Sometimes I will add my own hacks because devs are awesome enough to tell us their method for doing so. But my ROMs aren't good enough to publish and are just rips and customizations because I'm extremely picky.

Thankfully I've managed to Disable most of the Sense junk that I don't like and retain the good stuff. My stock ROM is running beautifully. HTC has done an amazing job of streamlining things and I'm really amazed.

I'll be able to hold out. I'd love root access for root call blocker and some other essential root-dependant changes but I'm pretty dang content right now. Such a wicked device. I've never loved a device out of the box as much as this phone. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zonk7ate9:
I'll definitely root ASAP, but will probably hold off on ROMs until a CM9 build pops up.

Non removable battery is a non issue. My Xoom has a non removable battery and I flash custom ROMs all the time. Power + Volume buttons.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bongd:
The AOKP project is an awesome compliment to the AOSP sources that are released. They do such a fantastic job. Only very minor improvements and not too much screwing around.

Cyanogenmod trumps it by just a tiny bit though. I absolutely love what they do. They're intense. I always make small donations any time I can. They're amazing.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Red5:
Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bongd:
Bingo!

I'm always surprised when I see people posting about how they've had x amount of phones and never rooted. NEVER ROOTED!?!?!? I can understand and appreciate not unlocking the bootloader or flashing ROMs, but I don't understand why they'd be here if they aren't tinkering one way or another.

I normally don't even bother setting up my phones because I've already got everything lined up to root, unlock and probably flash a different ROM onto my device. :cool:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] filthyfnj24:
I just read that kennethpenn is our senior mod which would only lead me to assume he's getting the AT&T One X, thus leading me to believe we should be getting some awesome development from him? :D Please tell me this isn't just my wishful thinking. I still have a backup of his Alien rom on my Atrix, think I might restore it while I wait til the 4th just for old times sake :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bongd:
I didn't want to get too excited but I did see that as well.

I've seen faux getting asked about it and he just keeps hinting that he'd develop for it as long as he has one. If he doesn't get one soon I'd be willing to throw down some donation funds.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] designgears:
I will certainly be rooting mine, and then some ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slegrand:
I think I will be rooting it for sure but as for ROM's I haven't decided yet I think I am going to take a more wait and see approach there but seeing who the senior mod might be is pushing me in that direction lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Oridus:
I plan on rooting just for the screen recorder app - but that's about it for now - till there's a 100% usable and stable rom that has stock ICS (100% sense removal).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JSLEnterprises:
I definately plan on rooting, and making a rom or two. One that's a little more complete and clean than the existing evita builds, and the other modded to hell and back (but smart functional mods).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DankestMango:
I'll be doing what most others here have mentioned, rooting for now to get rid of bloat and install some apps, and then putting on a AOKP or stock ISC rom, assuming Sense 4 is as annoying as 3.0, which from my hands on time in the AT&T store, it seemed to be.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Jookie01:
I plan on rooting mostly just to be able to use titanium backup and remove the preloaded Roger's apps. Might ROM later, but haven 't done so since my HTC Diamond days using Windows 6.5 ROMS. I was using an iPhone 4 before this device.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
i guess the better question is why would you be here if you didnt ?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TKTAB911:
D) All the above.

Although I'm more looking forward to deleting all the bloatware I never need on my current phone AND An overclock ;D.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Yes, Root Call blocker is the best ...

I'm much like you. I love to personalize my phone to the extreme, and Root Call Blocker is an amazing app. It's the only one that seems to work by not actually ringing a blocked number.

Peter
[Eee Pad Transformer General] karlr30:
Stock tablet, no root or super kernel etc..

Last update done. still the RR on effects, excepts, now it wont start again.

I'm stuck at the spinning circle.

How can i fix that ?

Or i'm seriously thinking of throwing that &*@# back to asus.

Anyone on the same boat ?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ssl123:
So when you power it off and power it on again, it freezes sometime during the ASUS boot animation every time?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] karlr30:
Yes, always the spinning circle, not freezed, always spinn,nothing more.. until battery die i suppose.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ssl123:
What are the first few characters of your serial number, because you're probably going to have to NVFlash that, if your device will allow it.