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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
i was happy to pick up a "bridge" laptop (til maybe late next year when the wife ok's a more high end machine) for under 450 from best buy's "deal of the day"

gateway i5 640gb hd w/ 6gb ram which was fine for my purposes for now

never even booted windows on it, popped in the ubuntu 12.04 cd, nuked windows, and went from there :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
What is "surface tech"? All this is Windows 8 running on a Microsoft branded slate. The knock on Microsoft has always been that they were forcing a desktop OS on a touch device and not building an OS for it. Now they did that. This will 100% be about price and ecosystem.

The iPad is also not consumption only anymore as there are a lot of ways now for content creation, have you seen died coda or paper? I think those that want to make it more than that are finding ways to make it work. It's no different than people situating their Android tablet into their workflow.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I was referring to the smart cover they unveiled that has a full keyboard and trackpad and is only 3 mm thick! I agree that we can do more things on iPad too, but I am just dying to get a full blown OS on a tablet. I am itching for the Ubuntu for Android thing on my transformer prime. Really, I am willing for anyone who can port ubuntu or any such OS onto a tablet. In the same vain, I am excited for WP8 as it is a chance to get a full desktop OS on a tablet.

And regarding loving/hating Apple/MS etc... I really never found a compelling argument to hate MS.. Now, Apple I don't care for but I admire their devices and respect them for that... But again, I really have no reason to hate or have strong feelings for one company or the other. Many people who embrace open source hate MS and Apple, but I think it is not necessary to hate them just because they have a different way to go about software. Yeah, you can't tinker with the OS, but still not all people want to tinker with the OS (me included! :D) and just want a platform to work on. And I used to use linux before, but I got really frustrated with it for one thing or another. Mostly, I got frustrated with the sub-par alsa and then pulseaudio sound system and found myself going back to Windows... And then again, I like Windows :eek: And tell me if you are jelly or not with the following piece of information: I have a full fledged MS office license (not student edition, I think it is the Professional one) for a wholesome figure of $10!!!! Thanks to my university! :D And whether you hate MS or not, you must admit that Office is a very, very well made program, don't ya agree?

This is the off topic thread, right? Okay, so I'm good... :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
i personally dont hate on MS and Apple for their software (though i really dont like windows) its for all the patent trolling and licensing crap they pull
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Most major companies do that, I used to work for a company as a field service engineer working on bank and casino equipment and we were a reseller for glory USA. One of their biggest competitors was Cummins(yes the same company that does diesel engines). One of Cummins business practices is to constantly go to court over patent rights until you A) go bankrupt. B) get tired of going to court and discontinue a product C) give in and buy parts from them

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Any company which does that should be shot dead. Though I feel Microsoft mostly falls in trouble about anti-trust laws than suing others.... Other than Apple's idiotic and anti-competitive lawsuits of late I can't remember MS doing similar stuff. They do licensing of products, sure... They may give OEMs some preferential terms if they agree to use Windows, sure... But I dont remember them suing every damn person like Apple is doing nowadays.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
You know what's even more sad? Apple is sueing their biggest competitors in the world. Have you noticed that they're only sueing HTC and Samsung? What about LG? Sony? Motorola? Seems to me like Apple is just afraid and starts all of these patent lawsuits to make sure they're the best.

I bet even the courts are getting tired of Apple's constant demand for lawsuits. Sigh... Apple's innovation is long gone due to all of those lawsuits.

Apple + litigation = death of innovation (for Apple anyways)

Sent from my Galaxified ICS phone!!! Don't be hating bro!!! ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
You realize these companies have been suing each other for years right? Do you forget Microsoft gets $15 per android phone sold? Rim, Oracle, Microsoft, Apple, etc all do it. Apple just gets the headlines because it's Apple and it creates buzz.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Thanks for the observation Captain Obvious. I wouldn't have been making this post had I not known about the constant lawsuits flying around the world.

I'm just saying that it's sad that Apple just wastes time sueing its competition and focusing less and less on the products.

Sent from my Galaxified ICS phone!!! Don't be hating bro!!! ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I think Apple is on an asymptotic trajectory, converging to a stable (yet stale :p) point in its iOS life cycle and as years pass by, there won't be significant changes to it... Have ya seen iOS 6? I can't tell if there are any jaw dropping, head spinning, must haves in it... And it isn't as if there aren't anything left to do in it.. There is a lot to be had... Else I believe jailbreaking won't exist...

---------- Post added at 06:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:13 PM ----------

People, hear me, hear me! This just in! At the bottom left of the XDA desktop webpage, change layout to XDA 2013 beta! And there are new set of smileys and what not.. :highfive: :victory: :fingers-crossed: :cowboy:

Enough goofing around, :silly:, okay that's the last one... :cyclops: I lied... :laugh:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
You guys type too long. ..... how the hell am I supposed to read all that???!!! Lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Amen
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sjpritch25:
Drinking scotch at a party on the water.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
Better get a bigger cup, or a refill :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Compress(mypost)

Output >>

Apple. iOS. No Progress. Money make, code no make.. Hey! XDA look New. Down there left! Me go yay!!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Lmao
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
Lmao! Thank you for simplifying it ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Some days I would rather do condemnedsouls camera flash fix than go to my crappy job

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] faehsemc:
Agreed...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Hey all

Thought I'd dip a toe in here.

Happy Friday night!

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] faehsemc:
So.... clubbing: isn't as fun! When you're older
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Hey guys just wanted to let yall know that I won't be very active here for A little. I picked up the S3 usa phone sections, if you see any issues, please report it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Yea I figured that out a few years ago to, better to just get a bottle or a case of beer and chill at the house with a few friends.

Woo-hoo home alone,party time. jk hope you enjoy it and don't be a stranger

Sent from my Ultimate Kang-Banger with magic
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Exccceellent! Operation Impress-The-Mods went as to plan. The Mods professed our awesome behavior and now one of them feels we are grown up enough for him to concentrate at another forum... Now it is time to let loose the beast inside! Operation Make-Havoc commences in 5... 4... 3... 2.. 1. :victory::silly:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
There's still another mod around here ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] juzz86:
Damn straight there is.

Good news, everyone! I know how bad you fellas can be, so I bought a new truncheon to bring the justice:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
I've been a bad boy
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] juzz86:
I can foresee many tears of pain in your near future :cool:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Oooh!!! I am scared! Burrr.... I am shaakking! (If someone gets the Seinfeld reference, :cool:)

I am Not scared of your puny sidekick... I know two gay cops that will kick your cops ass, anytime of da day! And here they come, on their rad new wheels:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Google I/O Tomorrow!!!

Woohoo!! Google I/O is TOMORROW!!! So, while we still wait to get official ICS, we will know that Jellybean is such and such... This is sh*tty, Google... I suggest you to clean up the mess called Fragmentation.. I don't care if Android being open source can't make u do much... With continued fragmentation, Android can never be what it should be... shoddy apps due to a wide variety of hardware... NO.

Make 3 hardware classes: Entry-level, mid-range, Top of the class. For each major revision of Android, define what SHOULD be the minimum spec for these three classes. Standardize the screen size for each class. Give may be 2 compatible screen sizes.. Even if this is NOT doable completely, do something so that you FORCE each god damn company to update their current phones no later than 1-2 months from the release of the damn OS update! :mad:

Anyway, bring on the Jellybean!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Ihatepullups:
On the topic of lawsuits, Google kicked oracle's butt the other week - oracle gets no damages for anything - although I think they plan on appealing
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
Possible US ban on iPhone and iPad? :D

Serves them right!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
That would be hilarious.

Sent from my KangBang'd out vivow
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
Wouldn't it? :)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...d-in-U.S.-following-ITC-patent-review_id31598
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Ohh!!! That is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Effing sweet... How d'ya like the taste of your own medicine, Crapple??? Oh! I can't believe it! I just wish this becomes a major court room drama... And even if the ban doesn't happen, I would love Apple sweating it out for once, to avoid getting their "ONLY" iOS products band from a MAJOR market... Let them sweat out half a billion in court fees... Serves them right for banning every damn android phone willy nilly... I have read some articles on their ban hammers against Samsung, especially the S2 and how they "doctored" the images to make the S2 look more like the iPhone to drive home their attack that S2 is a facsimile of the iPhone... BS! The phone is bigger, and has a bigger screen and different aspect ratio... Didn't stop apple from resizing the image in the submitted documents to make it look just as big as iPhone and all...

Revenge! :victory:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Unless Google actually makes sure OS updates get out than I/O will be a let down. Their whole partnership BS from last year is such a joke now. I know most consumers don't care and with themed sins it hides but it's just bad and embarrassing. It's been 8 months since it was announced and it's still not out to a large majority of devices that can run it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Why don't you try and design your own OS update (or rom) instead of complain on the forums? If you have time to complain, then go protest to the carrier and/or manufacturer for the desired update. At least we're getting an official ICS update (unlike certain phones).

Sent from my Galaxified ICS phone! Don't be hating bro! ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Not even worth it to argue my point.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Then don't argue. At least we have some awesome developers who are willing to try and make our android phone experience even better than the stock experience.

Sent from my Galaxified ICS Phone! Don't be hating bro! ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
It's not Google that's totally in the wrong here....all they are doing is what we want: giving us new and up to date OSs. From what I've gathered its VZW and HTC that are holding up ICS on our device. HTC hasn't released kernel, and without anything official from them, I don't see big red moving any faster.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Lino.:
That will be the day.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
I realize that and am the first to defend them when people get on their case. I always say thank you when they give us something new or help out when needed. However it doesn't fix the larger issue with US carriers and Google.

That said, who wants a moustache ride?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Whatever it is, I think Google can do more to streamline their Android OS.. I don't think the whole Opensource thing should be used as an excuse to this. Anyway, I will think about whether that is really feasible or not later this week as right now, I can't!

But the following is pure comedy my friends - Android Jellybean will be available starting July, and so far less than 10% Androids are using ICS... AND by the time HTC releases ICS on our beloved Dinc2, it is already OUTDATED... Think about that when you start to think: it is not Google's fault. :rolleyes: What is the point of releasing these updates when a vast majority of your userbase won't benefit from it till they finally give up? Something must be done. The reason Google should do something about it is because it gives Android a bad name and even though Android 4.0 and 4.1 are great, since most people use GB and god forbid, Froyo! even now, they will say Android sucks, and may be move on to another platform. It is detrimental to the platform. And then, developers are not helped either. They can't make use of the latest improvements in their apps else a majority of the people can't use it as they are on the old platform. And the ones on the new ones will have a shoddy, unoptimized app meant for old platforms. OR they have to make to versions of the app! A major PITA. And less quality apps will also be detrimental to the ecosystem... It is therefore in the best interest of the users and of Google to control the manufacturers throwing tantrums when it comes to updates and skins: Waah! No I need to make my own TouchWiz/Sense/<Put your own> skin! Waah! Suck it up, and give your users the best experience (a.k.a. the AOSP experience) as quickly as possible. Stop skinning stuff, and at best differentiate your products from other manufacturers with better hardware design and better hardware/software integration. NOT gimmicks (aka S Voice of SGS3 and other "inspired by nature" BS). Stuff like improved image sensors of HTC One X or SGS3 and other customs apps that improve productivity (like some things in SGS3) are good... I guess the only best option, as of now, is get a Nexus device.... Rest is a boring, nail biting, waiting game...

P.S: Can I expect CM10 next month? Or atleast by August!? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Do you honestly think the average users cares bout these updates? Chances are no, they just want to use the phone an that's it. The only ones that care about updates are people like us, we have more pull then the average person. If yall get ics, porting jb won't be very hard
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
My point is not whether the average user craves for an update or not. It is precisely the point that they don't know about these updates and probably believe GB is the latest version of Android (since their phone says that they are up to date). If the user faces no issues with the phone, then good for them. But if they do, they will probably believe that Android sucks and blah, blah and not realize that it is thanks to the remarkable incompetence of the manufacturers that they are stuck on a buggy phone and aren't getting the updates they should (like my old Droid X2) and this will negatively impact the image of Android and their experience with it. The Droid X2, for instance, is stuck on GB 2.3.5. It has numerous bugs, but thanks to the efforts of a single dev, they have CM7 and recently CM9 that helps alleviate many of its short comings. People unaware of rooting/installing ROMS etc, who are on stock will loathe that phone (like I did). They will probably ditch Android and will let others know how crappy it is, though ICS/JB are much, much better.

This also shows the problems with shoddy hardware, as on X2, but that is beside the point. So, my point is, crappy phones stuck on old versions of Android such as the X2, cause problems to android users, developers and the whole ecosystem as it fragments it and keeps the ecosystem from being at its best. Imagine if at least 50% of the phones were on ICS now... It will make app development streamlined and provide valuable updates and bug fixes to numerous phones.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
I agree that fragmentation is an issue, but that is the carriers an/or phone companies fault for not releasing the updates or doing it. The average person should do a little reading into whatever they own, be it a phone or whatever. Even with the fragmentation, we are still up to over 1 million activations per day. If we were to loose a few people to other operating systems, we still come out on top.

Most of the people I meet with an Android phone, don't complain about updates or apps not working on their phone. they are just happy to have to the phone I have general. If they want the update, they are more willing to do research, just like how we did. To me app development seems just fine, I don't see any issues with it but that is just me.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Maybe I was assuming too much when I thought people were smart enough to do some reading on a piece of hardware they just spent a couple hundred bucks on. It pains be to know that some people still think GB is the most up to date version of Android.

And I'd say the average user that is affected by bugs on buggy devices (like the aforementioned DX2) does think to themself "Why can't Google just make a new version that fixes these things?"... when indeed they already have. Do these people know enough to know that their carrier and their phone's manufacturer will both have to put -insert terribly bloated interpretation of the OS here- on the device first? Maybe....maybe not. The ones that don't are the ones more likely to jump ship to another platform, but only because they want a device that is easy to use without much instructional reading and a ton to remember.

IMHO, Android isn't meant for the average Joe anyway, but instead for the tech savvy who understand the OS's full potential. On a lighter note ...its nice to know someone was thinking of us nerds when Android was first conceived. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
I've only begun to care because there are apps that I'd like to use now, coughChromecough, but are only 4.0+. Yeah I can install a ROM but that isn't and shouldn't always be the answer.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
You know what, may be I am overreacting AND over-estimating the problems with fragmentation... Welp, that's what happens when you rant and pull stats outta yer ass! :p Anyway, as you said, yeah, Fragmentation sucks..

P.S: REALLY looking forward to CM10!!! :D :p What's the ETA? :eek: (oh no, you didn't! :))
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Only reason why I have vast knowledge bout android, Is from the past 2 years of reading bout it every morning. Also throughout the day too.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
:eek::eek::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] juzz86:
That's bad for your head mate :good:

EDIT: On second thought, depends what you're banging, actually.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Lol... Not to worry, this is the reason why we invented helmets... So that we can continue with our head-banging lifestyles...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] faehsemc:
Anyone near cocoa beach/daytona have a loaner phone? Wife smashed hers on accident and we are waiting on the sgs3 to ship
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Did she blame root again.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] faehsemc:
Lol yes for all the problems it was having, but my son actually caused her to drop it. He's 6months and she wad holding him.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Yea kids are a trip my daughter is 2 and a half months so I can still feed her a bottle with 1 hand and play with my phone in the other. If I still lived down that way I got a couple old flip phones but being that I live in va beach again that aint much help to you.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
Vb kills
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
I want a gnex or a rez so bad.....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
id like the stupid inc 4g to finally be mine after waiting forever
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Right lol. Idk... I just want something with a slightly bigger screen than what I got. I love the 4.3 for sure, so I wanna play around with other sizes too.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
That's what she said
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] faehsemc:
I got the sgs3 already ordered.... Supposed to be in the 11th. 4.8 in. Really doesn't feel bad
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Samsung just leaves a bad taste in my mouth I got my girl the sprint nexus s 4g and it is just terribad, spec wise its comparable to our phone for the most part and rooting was a lot easier but the radio sucks and I can't find a decent running Rom most of the time. She does really let me flash a whole lot so at the moment she has been running a fairly stable nightly but the phone still has a lot of issues but then again it was free so I guess I can't complain to much
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
You enjoy the storm?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] faehsemc:
Sprint has terrible service period. I'm in a high sprint service area for my government cell phone and I still get no service 90% of the places I go. I used to love Samsung pre the days of smartphones... HTC really is what I want, but Verizon went douche with the shared plan and I don't want to lose my data... Not interested in the rezound because our phone I feel is pretty much on par with it. And the inc4g isn't out yet... Even if it did come out, I was kind of let down it wasn't more similiar to a one series...I'm not for any Motorola brand at all, can't stand them, never could. All they do is re release the razor or krazor over and over. So Sammy it is.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Slept right through it

Sent from my Ultimate Kang-Banger with magic
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] The Archangel:
All I got was wind an that's it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jman42028:
Part of the issue....well most of the issue is the carrier..and that google let's the carriers molest the os as they see fit. So vzw..sprint...att just ad all kinds of bloat..ect. if I remember correctly...ics was supposed to clear up most of the issues with fragmentation...but obviously it hasn't. :(

Ms has been trying to go the hardware root with there phones...meaning locking down the specs..ect...and it isn't working at all. The isheeple don't really care about specs...obviously. they only care about how shiny it is. That's part of the beauty of apple marketing too tho.

As far as the courtroom stuff...I wish it would all go away. Instead of spending millions of dollars on resources on Google's part...not to mention millions of TAXPAYER money clogging up the legal system with this..they could maybe focus more on getting rid of the fragmentation.

Just my .02
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I bit of lights flickering at night... but no biggy. Some fallen trees along the bike trail this morning and some rain last night....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamkiller80:
Looks like Williamsburg and York county were just issued tornado warnings and on another note damn its effin hot and humid

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