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[HTC Rezound] zone23:
You guys make it too complicated:

Short answer:

1.) No - Not if your referring to the OTA that is coming someday.. (you would have to unroot (see #2))

1b.) Yes - if you flash a custom recovery and a custom ROM

2.) Yes - reflash Stock RUU

2b.) Provided you don't flash the "leaked" OTA that upgrades your HBoot

3.) yes
[HTC Rezound] lllboredlll:
4. Read the sticky's that's why they are there
[HTC Rezound] chrisrach3:
Thanks so much, guys, and I'm sorry I posted this in the wrong thread. I'll probably mess with this some more over the weekend and let you know how it goes. (For a novice like me!)
[HTC Rezound] andrewp3481:
Lol. This android stuff is like a crack addiction. We collectively just gave him his first hit of crack :-)
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
So since this issue has been giving me quite a bit of frustration, I have devised a very simple fix that should work for at least a few other people. There was a post in the ARHD thread where it suggested cleaning the connectors and the battery. I was pulling out my battery to give this a try when I realized the battery could be pushed slightly farther down into the housing, allowing for a more solid connection.

What I did was wedge a small piece of business card between the top of the battery housing and the battery itself. This has worked very well for me so far. If anyone else would like to try this and either confirm or deny that it is working for them that would be great.

As requested, pictures have been attached. One shows the items you need, another shows where I placed it against the battery and the other shows it sitting flush in the battery housing. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
I found pulling the ground pin out a bit helps, the one that makes contact with the battery cover and can cause touchscreen issues.
[HTC Sensation] tjamaican:
I thought the random reboots/shutdowns were a software problem. Because after I flashed this a fix a found the issue stopped. Kinda...

http://www.mediafire.com/?2a8837bcatym1ju
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
I've tried a lot of the fixed, including underclocking to 1ghz and varying ghz between 1 and 1.5. But this has worked for me, figures I would share. But a lot of phones are different...so what works for me might not work for others. Just thought I would share what worked for me! Plus I think its worth a shot, don't see how it could hurt anything. But this is xda, so at your own risk and all that other stuff.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
I heard placing a small piece of foul between the two can help also. But if the problem creeps up again for me i'll give that a try too.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
So did I, but it can happen on any ROM, including the stock one.
[HTC Sensation] eterno13:
Yes pics please....
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Pictures added to first post.

If it works for you feel free to hit the "thanks" button :)
[HTC Sensation] eterno13:
Will try
[HTC Sensation] rx7_guy:
I have found that whenever I have this problem, re-seating the battery temporarily solves the problem. I will try this next time as I agree these phones do seem to have a problem with the battery connection.
[HTC Sensation] dislplin01:
I only have it with certain ROMs and have not had out for a long time since the updated firmware
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Best of luck! You may also want to put some rubbing alcohol on a towel and wipe the connectors on battery and housing.
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
Can anyone confirm that this works? I saw a thread where someone sent their phone to HTC and they replaced the mother board on warranty and it fixed the problem.

I called HTC and told the problem and they confirmed that they have been receiving lots of complaints and replacing the mother board would fix the problem. I have a month before my warranty is up so maybe ill try this before sending it in.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
I can confirm that this works for me. I would suggest trying it for a week, if it doesn't work send it to htc.
[HTC Sensation] gorannn:
Guys tray to format you sd card on pc that's solve my problem, two days whitout shutdowns...

sorry for bad english:)
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
Worth a try I guess
[HTC Sensation] espchris91:
Worked for me :) thanks!
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
You're welcome :)
[HTC Sensation] daddyspud:
hay buddy just looked at this and i just relised i had the same problem but i was using anker batterys and kept getting random shutdowns and thought it was kernal related until i was away this week end and i noticed when i pulled back cover off that the connecters where not touching and i did the same as u and ive not had a random reboot or shutdowns

this works a treat and would recommend it to all users
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Glad it worked for you!

Good to know it also works with the anker batteries.
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
My battery has just dipped into constant reboot range and shutdown. Took the battery out and popped a piece of notecard in. So far (about 5 minutes) it hasn't shutdown again. Will report back later in the night with my results.

Quick question... does the motherboard have the battery connectors on it? How would changing the motherboard fix this problem if its the battery connectors?
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
So far so good!

I nominate this man for dev of the year award!
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Haha i'm hardly a dev...just an avid enthusiast. You can always hit the thanks button though :) that is appreciation enough for me lol
[HTC Sensation] Lazybumx:
just thought i would give my one cent here, my phone was in the same boat, shutting down every so often. So i thought might be the battery problem, after replacing the battery from one that i bought on ebay, i havent had any shut down at all, and its been over a month
[HTC Sensation] Shreyas Jani:
Yes even I had the problem with every rom i tried. All I wonder is why this problem started immediately after flashing ics on the device. Anyway, I have put an aluminium foil strip to avoid the battery getting loosened up. Although i still have a fair enough of doubt on the kernel & the radio ril files. Lets see. Jave put the strip since some 20 minutes back & the device hasn't really switched off.

One more thing comes to my mind is that the device works fine with the sim removed. I don't know what the device is upto. Will report if the device again goes off. Thanks anyway to thw op for the thread and suggestions. Since the past 25 minutes, i am breathing without having to worry about the shut down.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Glad to have helped...I know how frustrating random shutdowns can be. Like when someone asks for directions and your phone shuts off in the middle of looking it up. Or typing a long text message and it shuts off... anyways this has been a solid solution for about a week for me. Even giving lower temperatures and better battery life.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
I thought about doing this, but I am also pretty cheap :) hahaha
[HTC Sensation] Shreyas Jani:
I used to call and the phone used to get shut down. Boot it up and you have a good amount of battery life gone. 3.5 hours after putting the strip and i am fine.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Not sure how this can help, since the shutdown issue is not a loose battery connection. If it was, then it would randomly reboot while on fastboot or recovery too, which it doesn't. You'd also be struggling to turn it back on if it was simply the battery not making decent contact. It appears to only start being prone once the phone starts using the radio. Not sure why it'd matter, but adjusting the ground pin for the antenna is what seems to have fixed it for me.

Unless my shutdown issue was different to all of yours of course. But like I say if it was the battery connection at fault, it'd also be cutting out in fastboot and recovery.
[HTC Sensation] Shreyas Jani:
Yes, even I have the same questions. But it works fine with the strip.
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
I don't understand it either but I haven't had a shutdown since I put the strip in. I'll update if o get a shutdown but this is the longest I've gone without a shutdown so it appears to work.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Mine could be fine for days, then suddenly start doing it. Since I bent the ground pin out a bit to make better contact with the battery cover, it seems to have sorted it. Like you say, time will tell though. But when I did mine I didn't even touch the battery. It kept shutting off repeatedly straight after the boot animation, so while it was off I bent the pin up a bit and tried it again. Instantly it stopped happening and hasn't faltered since.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
My theory is that fastboot and recovery use significantly less cpu process then the os, therefore using less battery. When you are in the os and you are pushing more cpu, this requires more voltage. If the battery doesn't have a solid connection it has to push more voltage. I think this can cause the battery to push itself out of the safe range of millivolt usage. If the battery goes above or below the appropriate threshold for its use, it has a failsafe built in to make it shut off. Just what I have gathered from reading up on batteries.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
If that's right, then you should be able to replicate it by undervolting the CPU a lot. Though I'd heard that it causes it to reboot, not shut off? Either way, a fix is a fix, so fingers crossed. I know first hand how annoying the issue is, so any way we have to prevent it is good.
[HTC Sensation] shadowillusions:
I dont think the random shut downs have anything to do with the battery, there's something wrong with the radio. I always experience random shut downs in area's where the signal strenght is very poor, a friend of mine which also has the Sensation experiences exactly the same problem in the same area's. Also in these very poor signal strenght area's the phone seems to get pretty warm.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Like I said I am not really sure, but for me it has worked very well. No shutdowns for over a week compared with several a day. Also, with mine it would do it, but never if it was plugged in which initially lead me to believe it was just a bad battery. That seemed unlikely though since so many people have had the same issue. I also don't believe it is software since I have tried many combinations of roms and kernels and still had the issue. Since adding the small strip wedging the battery in better I have not had the issue. Hope it works for anyone else who tries it though. If it doesn't work I would try to send it in to htc if you have the warranty. Otherwise you can send it in but it will cost you a pretty penny.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
If it does happen again, try tweaking the ground pin as that's what worked for me. I've also just seen someone put foil between the battery and battery cover to fix it. It's a mystery, but whatever works for some is worth trying. :)
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
I will definitely try that if it happens again. I just updated sebastians kernel, now I am running at 1.8ghz :eek: so we will see how this goes.
[HTC Sensation] shadowillusions:
I can confirm my theory after i tryed your ''batteryfix'', it has nothing do with the battery for me atleast...
[HTC Sensation] Shreyas Jani:
I too doubt about the battery having any issues but then this is more than 24 hours i am with the strip. All is well!
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
it may works i remember when i buy the wm asus 525 after a year u had the same problem and i used to put a little piece of paper behind the battery and it works very well but here i don't want to try it with sensation cuz it makes the phone looks ugly for real...:p
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Makes it look ugly? Lol...there is no visible change to the device until you take the battery cover off and even then its barely noticeable. And really, how often are you using your phone without the battery cover?
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
Day 3 of no shut downs. I haven't been able to last this long since the problem started. The longest it would last is a day.

My warranty is up June 15th so I will see how this simple fix goes through the month of May and then decide if I want to send my phone in to HTC for a new mother board or not. If this holds up then ill probably just save the hassle and shipping cost and not send it in for warranty.
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
;):D

Ok don't go that ..... Maybe after. I read the post in the thread ill try it and post back with my Asus previous pic chill out dude i'll give it a go
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Nice to hear! I think they charge you a forty dollar fee regardless of what the issue is, warranty or not. Kinda lame. At least that's how it was when I had the hd2...
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
I ha e to pay to have it shipped to them then they will fix it of its a problem u Der warranty (the shutdown problem is covered) then they will pay to have it shipped back. You only pay the $40 if there is a problem that their warranty doesn't cover.

Still gotta pay for shipping and won't have the phone for up to 15 days so ill probably not send it in if the problem is fixed by sticking something by the battery.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Worst part is not having the phone for over 2 weeks. They wanted to charge me for shipping plus 40 dollars diagnostic fee (even though it still had warranty) for my hd2 (faulty digitizer) so all I could think was, I can get a new screen shipped to me for 40 and do it myself. So what would be the point in that? Hahaha...then I bought a sensation instead. I think when I have time I will resurrect my old hd2, I still love the amount of development and versatility that phone offers.
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
hello dude this is my asus p525 photos and how i made it that time but yesterday i do it with another better way with my sensation i'll post the photo's later on ...

ur way work yesterday for me till now more than 15Hs with out reset ... keep the good working dude :D

PLZZZZZ visit this >thread< *
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Looking forward to the sensation pics!
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
here is the new photo of my sensation battery after fix

hope you like it dude:D
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight your phone can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Looks good man. As long as it works, you know?
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
this is how thick it looks :confused:

thanks for ur manner :eek:
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
Just had a shutdown :( feels bad man
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Damn...no good. I still haven't had one, so I don't have a clue why it could have happened. Sorry, but if I think of something I will post here.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Have you tried giving the ground pin a better contact? If you haven't already, try setting it to wcdma only as for me it only seemed to happen in places with bad reception, presumably when it's flicking between 3g and 2g.
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
All I tried so far was placing a piece of notecard by the battery. The good news is that I only have had 1 shutdown (tonight) in 5 or 6 days and I was able to boot back up successfully. Before putting the paper in it would always shut off right away when booting and do that atleast 5 or so times before it would stay on. So I still think this fix is helping.

What results has everyone else been seeing?
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Mine hasn't shut down once yet, and all I've done is pull the ground pin out a bit.
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
what is ur hboot and radio and which rom u r using and did u check them all and check the md5
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
no shutdown since 4days thanks allot xmaster
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
Where is the ground pin located?
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Its a little circular gray pin about halfway up on the left hand side of the phone.

You can see it fairly clearly in the first picture, next to the imei sticker.
[HTC Sensation] beto1967:
Thanks so much.

I just upgrade to HTC One X and give my Sensation to my wife.

You can imagine my problem when the Sensation started to re-boot itself.

I had already tried all the soft and hard proposed solutions, this is it!!!

KushXmaster you are a lifesaver.

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[HTC Sensation] invisiblemonki:
i KNEW saving all those business cards would come in handy! just tried. also bent the pins up. Looks like the pin on the left (of the 4) was shoved down a bit (into the phone. not bent but submerged). makes sense if the phone needed to draw more power and couldn't cause one pin waz not touching. my problem seemed to always happen after starting one too many processes. running kinda hotter than when it was new. if it DOESN'T work, i'll report back. i'll be very happy if this does the trick. looks like those battery pins are awefully flimsy. i guess dropping my phone all the damn time is bad... XP

btw, does anyone know if having all the gold colored plating rub off negatively affects the contacts? i mean significantly?
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Glad it worked :) feel free to hit the thanks button on the first post ;)

I've had problems on more than one htc phone with the battery pins getting pushed out of place, most likely due to frequent battery pulls. Not sure if the "gold" plating will affect performance too much. Let us know if it worked for you.
[HTC Sensation] ImHuge07:
How is this fix working for everyone? I got a couple reboots today :(

I put a new piece of paper in and it stopped rebooting so hopefully that's the reason. Still can't tell if this is a fix or just placebo.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Mine still hasn't rebooted yet with the ground pin tweak.
[HTC Sensation] vitalogy69:
Thanks Guys... I was wondering and had a feeling that the random reboots were caused by some GPU rendering /utilisation issue because reboots happened most of the time when i either unlocked the phone from sleep or when i browsed the gallery. The rom i used was AHRD updated to the latest and the fact that the adreno 220 was forced by the rom full time was haunting me.

The "strip of business card forcing the batt on its contacts" idea turned out to be a brilliant solution. My device became stable with lesser reboots....

I however resorted to reformatting my 32gig class4 microSD and moving only the essentials back last night...

So-far so good. My device had only rebooted once in two days now.

Switched from AHRD to Ordroid. 5.02. Fixed permissions . My device is now stable.

I believe that the random reboots 80% of the time caused by the batt which is now fixed for good.

Thanks. KushXmaster... BrAvo

Touch HD > HD2 > SensationXE
[HTC Sensation] healy2k:
Hi , I had terrible reboot and shutdown issues, not when i was on stock though, when I started messing with custom roms thats when it started, recently about 3-4 weeks ago I went back to stock as i need to return my phone for dust under the screen repair, (not returned it yet) the shutdown and reboot problem has stopped now back to stock ruu. However at the same time of going back to stock i got an anker battery from amazon. so I think its the batt but im just glad its stopped.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
You're welcome. Glad it has helped.
[HTC Sensation] vescobg:
Guys i had random reboots too, but only when i recieve call or hang up. So my problem was with kernel. When the phone is in call the kernel underclock (Bricked 1.1) processor to 384-5xxmhz. After i changed clock from 384-700mhz my audio quality got better and no more reboot for maybe 48hours.

So u can try this method too if u have reboots before/after phonecall
[HTC Sensation] JPeterson66:
Hey everyone just wanted to let everyone know im a little past a week now with ZERO random shut offs!!

All i did was clean the battery and prongs on the phone with rubbing alcohol and then used one piece of eletrical tape to tape a thin piece of cardboard to the top of that battery... I'm glad someone gave me the link to this fix! I can finally love my sensation again :)
[HTC Sensation] NeoDoRant:
Sadly the fix didn't work with my sensation :(. Keeps rebooting on branded stock ICS... Maybe other tips?
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Have you tried the ground pin too?
[HTC Sensation] NeoDoRant:
Which ground pin?

[edit]found it and will try it out! how much did you pull it out?[/edit]

[edit2]didn't work... :([/edit2]
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
You don't have to pull it by a lot, just got to try making it make as good a contact as possible with the battery cover. For me, mine shut down most when there was poor reception, flicking between 2g and 3g. This ground pin appears to be for the antenna in the battery cover, so improving it can't hurt, and in my case stopped the shutdowns altogether. It apparently also helps if you have touchscreen issues, but how I don't know.
[HTC Sensation] NeoDoRant:
Okay thanks for the information! I guess my problem aren't the pins or whatever. It even has shutdowns when im running it without the cover...

And btw, I'm running the pone without a SIM and SD card to test this reboot issue. I don't know if this also leads to reboots.
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
The ground pin is for the touchscreen. Seems it can help with this a little bit too. I would try using so rubbing alcohol to clean the connectors on phone and battery. Just dab a towel with some and run them down. Try to use a lint free clothe when doing so. Possibly using a piece of foil between the ground pin and contact on phone back can help too.

Good luck!
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Like I say, I'm not sure how it's linked to the touchscreen though, as the screen works with or without the battery cover! It's odd...
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
This is true. I just remember the ground pin fix came out with people having touch issues on the lower side of the screen.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
That it did, it's a mystery to me!
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
I think a lot of these thing will remain a mystery to us. Some things work, others don't. Something that works for one doesn't work for another...isn't technology wonderful? I think it has to do with mass production and not giving all the devices the quality they deserve. Maybe someday they will...until then we have xda!
[HTC Sensation] NeoDoRant:
+1 haha true! :)

Something weird just happend; I took the last official RUU for the Sensation, started the installation and got stuck during the process (of course, because I have a branded s-on and no supercid yet). But this kind of reseted everything, and the random shut-downs are gone :eek:. I was just on the way to get it to the store, but now I wait and see whats happens. So in my case I guess the problem was software related.

[edit]hmm, as I put in the SIM- and SD-card, the shutdowns occur again :S. Then it's a SIM or SD card problem...[/edit]
[HTC Sensation] AndroidNeophyte:
I had to do this fix just today. My sensation began to shutdown itself when i was getting lazy when putting my phone down lol... Ive been throwing it on the bed when i come back from work hehe... I think the fact also that ive been opening the backcover alot lately. That might have loosen something. oh well, five minutes since i put the fix in :)... will report what happens in a week or if i get another shutdown... crossing my fingers... either way, thanks for sharing this fix :)...
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
Hope it works, and you're welcome. Don't be afraid to hit the thanks on the first post ;)
[HTC Sensation] AndroidNeophyte:
Beat you on that one :)... I did already :)... I'll give you another for the respond though :)...
[HTC Sensation] daarrheel:
Ok I am gonna try both of these solutions and hope for the best cause I am so frustrated by these random and constant shut offs grrr... and for me it does seems to happen when I am waking it up , texting or using the camera
[HTC Sensation] DehoXeD:
+1 for becoming lazy after work ^^

By the way, tried this Fix last week (had around 5-6 random shutdown before).

For now, i did not get any more shutdown since i tried this.

Thanks @ kushXmaster , A simple but usefull fix ;-)