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[General Topics] dsillydude:
just got another problen here, the moto x pure doesnt support lte band 20 rite?

I read somewhere its the other version has it, the US version doesnt... and so far I checked on. amazon it goes for $650 like wtf.. anyone knows where I can buy the version that has band 20 (moto x pure)
[General Topics] SirVer:
I doubt Sony makes any devices non-unlockable on purpose - they're usually very community friendly. No one I know has ever had trouble unlocking or rooting an Xperia. Are you talking about carrier specific devices? Because it's probably them that's requesting it.
[General Topics] shoey63:
Correct. Certain carriers get Sony to make the bootloader unlockable. If you get an international version, unlocking is a piece of cake using flashtool.
[General Topics] Aniruddha10:
Hey, the new Moto G4 has just been released and I'm wondering if I should get it.

I'm defintely going to wait for reviews anyway but would like some feedback from others.

Have an issue with the size, 5.5 seems to be a lil too big for me. I guess I could get used to it.

I heard the Adreno 405 isn't that great but it should be fine for casual gaming right?

Camera seems to be alright and the battery backup should be good.

What are your thoughts? Any other suggestion.?

Thanks in advance :D

[MENTION=5938633]SirVer[/MENTION]

What do you think buddy?
[General Topics] force70:
Yes carrier specific.

Im told even the devices bought from sony here are also unlockable only the international devices can be unlocked.

Just from what ive read here, no personal experience.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Going just by the spec sheet, I have to say I'm not impressed. About the only advantage I can see with this over competitors is that it runs stock Android, and will probably have better development. The G3 had competitors offering more specs too, but it had water resistance, which alone would have made me consider it. The new model appears to have dropped it.

My biggest gripe with it is that they went with the SD 617. Why on earth did they not use something from Qualcomm's 2016 lineup? All of them have better GPUs than the 405. The 405 should handle casual gaming just fine in theory; however, my only reference for it is a friend's Yureka, and it lags (and heats up) on anything too fast-paced (and that's on a 720p 5.5). That may not be a fair comparison, though, since Yu is notorious for being bad with firmware, which could be at fault.

All that said... This is still a decent phone, and you would feel more confident buying from a "proper" brand like Motorola (unless they go Lenovorola on us). I just don't see it as being competitive in it's declared market segment. I see no reason to get it over the Redmi Note 3, except for development.

Ah, well. Maybe the reviews will surprise us.

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[General Topics] nimashara:
I want to buy a new smartphone. I have a Note 3 and I love viper4android and floating window. What's the best smartphone?
[General Topics] Aegnor:
Honestly, there is not a perfect smartphone, but only one that fits your needs. I have an S5 and an Honor 7 and between them i can't decide which is the best because they work like a charm in every situation...Did we reach the slowly progression? Which functions more are we going to ask these times on the phones? I don't know, but out there there plenty of good phones that have less difference between them nowadays...You may go for the appearence or the speed but you'll gain a good phone anyway, regardless of what you'll lose or you'll gain :)
[General Topics] nimashara:
Yes, it's true. But I want a smartphone with floating windows, full xposed compatibile and with viper4android. Something like the note 3 but more powerfull and more compatibile with modding
[General Topics] SirVer:
V4A can be used on any rooted device, so any device will work, as long as you can root it. Floating window can be got by custom ROMs as well. So basically, any device with good development would fit you. Since there are many that fit that description, try mentioning some other things you're looking for.
[General Topics] Aegnor:
I suppose you should abandon samsung then because is becoming hard to modding them (just the s5 still has problems) and the honor 7 is cool but require a lot of patience to install everything (just unlock the bootloader may be hard for someone)...you should go for nexus, i never tried them but i heard enough about them to know that they are the best for modding so you'll probably have all you want, nexus 5x and 6p, or (not well aknowlegde about modding) the LGs like G4/5 (the 5x is made by LG as well), inform yourself about them here on xda :)
[General Topics] Planterz:
The Moto G line isn't meant to be impressive, it's meant to be affordable, yet not crappy. $225 for a 5.5" 1080p screen, SD617, 3gb RAM, and 32gb storage is a pretty good deal.

He's from the capital of Canada, Toronto.

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[General Topics] force70:
Canada.
[General Topics] Mastermagnus:
Phone at 400-500 dollars with great camera?

I am looking for a good Android phone for 400-500 dollars (in USA). I want it to be recently released, with Marshmallow or planned update to Marshmallow, great camera, expandable storage, good battery, and most importantly, it must be rootable. Also, it needs to support 850 and 1900 Mhz bands for 3G and AWS LTE band for the phone to work it my country. So far I am considering a Sony Xperia Z5 compact, is that a good phone?
[General Topics] prince10t:
Ive got a Xperia Z5 Dual (standard model), so I can relate. yeah its a good phone alright. Speedy, UI is very clean and snappy specially with MM. Battery should be better with Z5 compact bcoz lcd display is a little smaller than mine. I can get 4-5 SoT with casual gaming and social apps in MM update. charges around 1.5 hrs using a quick charger as others say. Development and mods are still in its infancy as we know, Z5 is still kinda new. NO LB root yet, and maybe never will happen as a lot of seniors say in the Z5 forums, just unlock BL to gain root.

Only things I dont like is its a bit slippery because of the back glass, youd definitely need a case for it; the phone is kind of edgy on the sides and corners; and because it has a SD810 SoC inside, it tends to be a little warmer than your average phone when doing cpu intensive task like gaming.
[General Topics] dsillydude:
suggestions here,

just got another problen here, the moto x pure edition (xt1575) doesnt support lte band 20 rite?

I read somewhere its the other version (xt1572) has it, the US version doesnt... and so far I checked on amazon the xt1572 goes for $650 like wtf.. anyone knows where I can buy xt1572 version that is atleast cheap..
[General Topics] Planterz:
The US version doesn't have band 20 as far as I can tell. The xt1572 version costs so much from Amazon because a seller in the US took the effort/time/money to import it here. Obviously it'd be an even bigger waste to re-import it to wherever you are. If you're in the US (or anywhere in North America), I can't imagine why you'd need band 20 unless you travel a lot. You can find them for cheaper (and more expensive) on eBay, but it's up to you whether you want to go that route or not.
[General Topics] griz.droidx:
Nexus, Moto, or older device?

Greetings,

I'll be in the market for a new phone asap, My sgs3 died a while back. The screen just stopped responding and after odining back to a stock rom, and bootloader still no dice on the setup screen. I'm assuming the digitizer is dead, but who knows. I've taken it apart to check the connection but thats about it.

So I'm back on my old moto dx2 for which support was practically non existent. Running CM7 there, but I've noticed it gets much better reception in my low signal home area than my sgs3 did with both stock and custom aosp roms.

What I like and would like to find in a new phone are two things:

1. Removable storage: This is a must as I pack a ton of stuff. My Dx2 currently has a 64GB card inside. And so did my 16Gb SGS3.

2. Removable battery: This just makes sense. I don't want to have to dig out a soldering iron to put in a new battery should I need it.

3. Unlocked/unlockable bootloader with decent support in the custom rom area.

4. Good size screen between 5.3-6" and a good size battery for the larger screen real estate.

Not asking much eh?

I'm thinking moto since the dx2 has excellent reception compared to the sgs3. Thus, the Nexus 6 would make sense except for the fixed storage and non-removable battery. I'd love a nexus 6 and since I need a CDMA device, I was thrilled when I heard the Nexus 6 would support those bands/Verizon MVNO's.

I've looked at a lot of moto devices and I like the Samsung Note's but the samsungs are getting harder and harder to do anything with just from looking at the forums. And if I pickup say a note 3, I'd still be concerned about support for the next generation of roms and what not.

I don't know much about LG, Sony, or the Chinese companies although I know the Nexus 6p has great reviews.

Just wondering if anyone has a good starting point for a few devices I could look at to get myself headed in the right direction. A few years ago this wasn't as hard. There weren't as many devices. When I bought the original X the choice was simple. Moto made good devices, a lot of people were getting them so there'd be a lot of support., the Sgs3 same thing, lots had the older samsungs and loved those, and I noticed before I bought mine (4mths after release) that it was rooted, and there were already AOSP roms to be had. I spent the entire night rooting, installing recovery, and an aosp rom the evening I bought it. I literally went to work the next day with zero sleep.

So, guys, I'm going to peruse the thread, but first and foremost are probably sd card support and signal strength. Then removable battery. Battery technology has come a long way, and now that my sgs3 is as old as my original DX, I never noticed any signs of battery deterioration. I'm guessing a battery should last a decent five years minimum.
[General Topics] dsillydude:
im.not in.the US thats why im asking for band 20 which by far is the only. band supported here
[General Topics] SirVer:
I think the LG G4 or G5 might suit you, but I have no idea how good their antennae are (though I remember reading somewhere that the G5 has subpar WiFi reception). In fact, LG is pretty much the only mainstream OEM that uses removable batteries anymore. If you let that go, then Moto's offerings come into play, and so does the HTC 10. If development is your priority, then you can't go wrong with a Nexus, but the G5 and 10 will probably have good development as well, given their unlockable bootloaders; like you, I dump a bunch of stuff on my card, and if I were getting a Nexus, I wouldn't settle for anything less than 128 GB, which leaves only the 6P.
[General Topics] Planterz:
That's four things.

Anyway, how new, how much, how powerful, for what, etc?

LG G3 fits all those bills. You might have to downgrade the firmware for root/TWRP, but it can be done. It's not the newest device, but it'll still do anything you'd want it to (including running graphically intense games). G2 if you want to go cheaper. G4 is locked tight.

Moto X Pure/Style would work too. I wouldn't worry too much about the battery not being removable. Well, maybe a bit, as it'd be a time-consuming PITA (with a ton of tiny screws), but no soldering iron is required, just the right tools and some patience. Manufacturers (typically) don't solder batteries, but use connector cables, since it's easier for them to replace a battery for a warranty replacement or refurbishing or whatever.

How long a battery goes for depends on how you use it. Lithium rechargeable batteries have a "lifetime" of about 500 cycles. After that, you'll notice serious degradation in your daily battery life. For most people, that's about a year and a half or so before the phone "craps out" on them. After that, it'll seem like it's dying and might start doing weird crap with the % gauge.

I have a Nexus 6 (love it!) and a OnePlus One (might sell it), both that have non-removable batteries. Like you, I prefer easily swappable ones, but I bought each of those devices knowing that if/when I had to disassemble the phone to replace it, I could. I've replaced the battery on my Nexus 4 twice (and disassembled/reassembled it countless times trying to fix the proximity sensor issue).
[General Topics] griz.droidx:
Thanks Guys

I appreciate both of your responses so quickly. I'll start researching as soon as I get home from work. I'm in a training class now and probably shouldn't be on xda or swappa.

Thanks again. Man, I'd love that nexus 6 but I'll check out those LG devices and the moto's as well.

back to work.. thanks again.
[General Topics] force70:
Id go nexus 6p over 6 just because it has 128gb of storage. 64gb is just not adequate for many users including me.

LG G4 or G5

Note 4 (still love mine) sd card slot and removable battery.

Sent from my Note 5 or Nexus 6P
[General Topics] s8freak:
A terabytes isn't enough for you Joe LOL Or just one phone either

"And on that bombshell!"

Sent from my Stunningly Beautiful Echoe Powered G935F
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
People who wants phones advices don't forget to mention your budget , the most important critera.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Anyone know any good Dual SIM Dual Active phones with specs at least on par with a 2014 flagship? My dad's in need of a new one, his One M7 dual is dying. Budget up to around $550, cannot exceed $600. He has his eye on the Huawei Mate 8, but I'd like to know if there are any alternatives. There's surprisingly little information about these things on the net, and no manufacturer seems to want to advertise this capability if they have it.

EDIT: Also, would anyone be able to confirm that the Mate 8 is DSDA? What I mean by that is, it should be able to handle calls on both SIMs at the same time, putting one on hold but not disconnecting at any point.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
So what about the OnePlus 3? Rumors looks nice but anybody knows when it will release? Maybe even in May?
[General Topics] force70:
Thats true lol :D

Sent from my Note 5 or Nexus 6P
[General Topics] s8freak:
I bought that Sony Xperia just for giggles LOL looks like a decent cheap device with great battery life and great camera

"And on that bombshell!"

Sent from my Stunningly Beautiful Echoe Powered G935F
[General Topics] force70:
What model number did u get?
[General Topics] s8freak:
This one

"And on that bombshell!"

Sent from my Stunningly Beautiful Echoe Powered G935F
[General Topics] prince10t:
Have you consider sony z3 dual? Or how about the Xiaomi mi 5 or Xiaomi redmi note3(2016). Or wait till they release OnePlus3. Not sure about that DSDA though.

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More sources say it should be this may. Yeah looks nice too, specially if rumors are true about charging it from 0 to full in less than 30mins That would be crazy awesome.
[General Topics] SirVer:
DSDA = Dual SIM Dual Active

None of the recent Sony devices are DSDA, unfortunately. And I don't know if Xiaomi ones are (will try and check), but there are no Xiaomi service centers in Dubai, where my dad lives.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Yeah that would be awesome, hopefully it gets the new Fingerprint scanner from Qualcomm that scanns your finger in 3D and unlocks the phone faster than every other phone!
[General Topics] griz.droidx:
Personally I don't want to spend over 200 or so. I know the Nexus devices will have support far beyond anything else. Or so it seems. I've looked at the g3 and it'll probably fit the bill. I'll check out the g4 and g5 as well. The Nexus 6p is nice but I can't afford it at the moment.

Thanks for the advice on removable batteries u figured someone had found a way around that and I'm glad they're not soldered.

Time to get to shopping. I'll be buying around June 3. Thanks guys for narrowing it down I'll just have to read the dev threads now.

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Forgot to mention that I'll be using mind with either big red prepaid or a big red mxno like selectel what I'm using at the moment
[General Topics] jhonwright56:
I recommend you to buy Galaxy S7 Edge.
[General Topics] griz.droidx:
looking at the s3 it is about 1.5 years newer than my sgs3 so I'm not sure how much longer dev's will be deving for that device. I'd like a nexus 6 and may just have to save up but can't afford the 64gb so that's probably out of the question. The lg g3 looks nice has a large screen removable battery and sd card slot AND people are doing countless things with it. The lg g4's dev sections are very limited. so no go there. I'll have to check the g5 but that one looks too expensive on swappa. Although there's other places to get phones, swappa seems to be a nice resource for such things.

I'd buy another sgs3 for cheap, and have plenty of spare parts , old board, camera, etc, but I'd have to make sure it doesn't have the ML1 or MF1 can't remember locked down firmware where you can't install AOSP. Plus the signal wasn't all that great with it. It still served my needs though. 2GB ram, and plenty fast enough for me, as I'm no gamer. I just want all the sensors, gps, and what not. I use my device as an all in one type deal, as I don't own a tablet, laptop, nav system, ipod / mp3 player, book reader etc. So my next device must be able to do all that. The g3 is looking better and better, but I'd really like to get something a bit newer with all the features the g3 contained. I think I was looking at the g4 and maybe it was a misprint, but it said it would support 2,048 GB sd cards. 2TB sd cards???? Didn't even know such a thing existed yet, they may but I'd hate to see the price. Most of my music but not all, at least all that I'm listening to, fits on a 64GB with plenty of room for a couple nandroids, apks, and TiBu backups, and backup rom's with the trimmings. Still not completely sold on anything. I hate to get a huge 6in phone but using it as an ereader, the larger screen would be handy.

Do any of the nicer moto devices support sd cards anymore? As the above poster mentioned the non-removable battery probably isn't a deal breaker after all. But I have to have the sd card support. I can't afford the 6p as nice as it is. I'd even buy a meizu or Xiaomi provided it wasn't made cheap, and had all the bells and whistles.

One more question, since I'll be using a verizon MVNO or verizon prepaid, or verizon, can't I just get an unlocked device and use that as it seems the G4 international versions can be unlocked, or maybe that was the g5.

Thanks again for all the help in narrowing it down. If you don't stay on top of these things, it's impossible to get caught back up. Much more so than with pc components, or anything else I've encountered.
[General Topics] themorn:
LTE Question

I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Note Edge, but am planning to purchase the LG V10.

Is Korean LTE compatible with US of A LTE?

:confused:
[General Topics] Planterz:
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. Are you a Korean wanting to use the phone in the US, or are you an American wanting to use the phone in Korea? Or are you an American wanting to buy a Korean phone, or a Korean wanting to by a phone from America? Regardless, LTE bands probably won't be compatible.
[General Topics] cavags5:
I have note 4 and s7-edge and definitely will have the note 6.
[General Topics] ItsDevesh:
Hows the performance of s7 edge?
[General Topics] SirVer:
No, 2 TB SD cards are not a thing yet - that's just companies playing the numbers game. 2 TB is the maximum size the current highest microSD standard supports, the same standard that is supported by most modern devices. Therefore, if 2 TB cards ever become available, the phone will support it. For now, the max available is 200 GB (or maybe 256, I think I heard something about that recently).

The Moto X Style/Pure has a microSD slot. Unless you want an IR blaster, it's probably a better choice than the LG G3, since the G3's stock firmware is terrible, and will lag fairly soon, while Moto's is basically AOSP, and will likely stay snappy forever. It also has the advantage of supporting the LTE bands of all the US carriers. The G3 international model doesn't support CDMA, so I'm guessing it won't work with Verizon? There's a separate CDMA version, but all the development is for the international model.
[General Topics] cavags5:
Its good , but from s6 the difference is not much.

The big difference is battery and camera nothing else, if note 4 has a good camera i wouldn't bought s7-edge.

Or from note5 i think won't worth the upgrade.I like flat and dont use the edges.

The is bad when you left the phone on in one hand.

Its easy to write in one hand in the note 4 than the s7-edge
[General Topics] ItsDevesh:
Yeah me too dont like edge, even me too like flat and corner shaped phone.
[General Topics] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Im not sure between s7 and the edge....the edge is bigger though and has larger battery capacity...

The edge is some getting use too but I don't think its that much of an issue
[General Topics] cavags5:
What phone do you have now?
[General Topics] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Lg g3, i love the 5.5 inch display.... Toont bad i only get 1-2h SoT :p

So im choosing between s7 or the edge :')
[General Topics] cavags5:
I don't know your daily use, but definitely for battery the s7 edge.
[General Topics] jaris93:
Hey guys,

I am looking to purchase the moto g4 plus. The phone seems like a well balanced device with decent battery life and a good camera.

I just found out however the phone does not come with a magnetic field sensor. I am a bit skeptical in purchasing the device now.

Can anyone advice me if this would be very important. Would I be able to use navigation when driving etc...

If this is an important feature and I am missing out can anyone suggest alternatives to this device. Thanks
[General Topics] desiking911:
hi all whats the best phone to buy for under $150 i need something noob proof that i can root easily and wont get bricked like some of the samsungs phones i have used in the past also must be gsm unlocked and 4glte thank you all for the help.
[General Topics] bigboss-over:
apple probably

although i'm replying to an android forum, but i think my next phone will be the apple 7 or 7s(if they have)
[General Topics] jamesava:
Which handset you have right now ? android or any other ?
[General Topics] Stockbroker:
Hey guys:)

Having read lots of negative comments about ASUS Zenfone 2 I'm a bit lost now.

Could someone suggest me a dual SIM phone under € 270 which has a good camera quality (for Snapchat & Instagram) ?

I'd use it mainly for social apps and for music.

I'm thinking about Huawei P8 or HTC Desire 728 or Lenovo P70 .. maybe anyone has any experience with them or maybe an another suggestion?

Greetings:D
[General Topics] SirVer:
Well, there are a lot of phones that would fit that category - what other specs are you looking for?

I don't know how the front camera is on other phones, but the one on the G3 is pretty food, and the G4's will probably be as good, if not better, and both of those can be picked up for under €270 (I think).
[General Topics] Osbor:
Sort of a two-part question but;

-has anyone used extended battery cases on a phone with a non-removable battery? do they cause a ton of heat build up in the phone (since its basically in use while charging)?

-looking for something to replace my GS3 on verizon whose power button finally gave up. priorities are super hack and rom friendly, big time power user thing, preferably with NFC and wireless charging for my soon to be car dock thing. budget of around $200 on ebay, got a verizon unlimited account so i cant ever get a new phone from them on contract without losing that.

No phablets please, I've tried to use my friend's Note 4 but it's just way too big for a daily driver, and an extended battery on that would make it oppressive.