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[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I believe donations are good. People can say that many ROM developers are 'just using tools made by someone else and doesn't warrant a donation', but that's like saying a waiter(ess) doesn't deserve a tip because all they did was bring out food that someone else cooked.

I have a donation link because its not up to me to decide if something I've posted (roms, mods, themes, or advice) is worthy of a donation. That is up to the end user that uses what I've made/modded or benefits from my advice.

Anyone that thinks they're going to make a lot of money developing on xda, and only does it for this reason, will quickly find out that that isn't going to happen, and quit. Its a self-weeding system.

I do the things I do on xda because I like to help people and others have helped me in the past, so I'm paying it forward. But if someone feels that what I've done warrants a thanks or a donation, that is up to them. If they donate, I'll put it towards my next device, if no one donates, I'll just buy my own device myself so I can continue doing what I enjoy.

But someone having or not having a donation link isn't going to change my opinion of anyone. I've seen a few people in this thread alone say "hey freeza doesn't have a donation link, he's really cool"...why? Why does him not having a donation link make him cool?

What makes freeza a cool/good guy is his willingness to help others and share whatever projects he's worked on with the community. Not because he doesn't accept donations
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
Well said - 100% in agreement.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
I agree, and I also agree with the unobtrusive donate button under your avatar.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I had the donation button in my sig up until a few days ago actually. But I edited a few things in my sig and I did away with it. I wouldn't really consider having a small button in your sig obtrusive, nor essentially asking for donations either.

Its been said a few times in the thread, that "the real people who deserve donations are people like dsixda, cyanogen, jesusfreak, etc. and while I don't disagree that they also deserve the thanks and donations, its also got to be taken into consideration, the level of Android that the given donator is on.

You or I may look at another evo 3d ROM and think, "nothing special about that, I could of made that, its just a tweak there and built in a kitchen". But to someone who has limited experience in Android modding may look at the same ROM and crap their pants because they don't have the knowledge or resources to do it themselves.
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
Personally, I didn't want to put up a donate link but I was requested by many members to add it so I finally did. Back then, it was very time consuming creating and then updating my themes for all of the nightly builds of cm7 in the old HTC Hero days so it was a way for people to thank me for my time and effort put in (this was back before the invention of the thanks button). I saved those donations and used them to upgrade to the Evo 4G and started themeing for HDPI devices. Now that my themes are all on the theme chooser I no longer have to keep up with updating them for new rom builds. So, if any new donations are received, I turn around and re-gift them to people whom I feel are more deserving than I am.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
You, sir. Are absolutely awesome. I love the passion in making things. I appreciate you working with me on my software (which, for the uninformed, is based on Unknownforce's).

I have you to thank for a few reasons:

1. For figuring out the final key to downgrading the HTC EVO 3D (obvious) :)

2. For getting me involved in Android (even if it is just a start)

3. And supporting me in my work.

I actually feel kind of guilty for having a donate button up now. :o

But, to make it known, I am doing my thing for the love of it -- not for some petty cash. It feels great to be a part of such a great community of people.

When I get a chance, I do owe you something. I can't afford a lot, but still. ;)

Thank you again,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
You helped me out a lot as well, It makes it nice and easy when you only have to download one thing and boot to it and have it all on screen real nicely laid out. So I consider it more of a team effort here. I could have made it a lot easier by creating the cd, but you did such a nice job with it, It wouldn't have been worth my time. Plus, as most noticed at the initial release of the downgrade, I tend to jump the gun on things, missing steps and leaving things out... Anyone following the downgrade thread from it's infancy can tell you that. So I'd end up screwing it up somehow, and release it too soon again. lol

So thanks go right back at you for your help as well. :beer:
[HTC EVO 3D] Atomix86:
That's a really bad analogy. Of course the waiter doesn't deserve a tip, why on earth would you give extra money to someone who is already getting paid to do their job?

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[HTC EVO 3D] :
In the end, it's not up to us. If someone wants to donate, let them donate. If someone doesn't, then they don't. If someone asks, then it's whatever. It doesn't affect the rest our lives.
[HTC EVO 3D] swamp goblin:
I believe that donations are good in most cases. I personally have a little donate button down there in my sig, but I only put it up after I spent months porting sense and other roms to the nexus s. I didn't start developing for the money; I do it because I love messing with phones. Having someone buy me a coffee every once in awhile is a huge mood booster, and is also super motivational. It lets me know that somebody really enjoys my work.

In the end, its all up to the person donating. If I find a rom/mod that really makes me enjoy my phone, I wouldn't mind buying the dev a coffee/beer/ice cream.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Not sure if you're serious, and I'm unaware of how things work in the UK, but in America, waiters and waitresses get paid very low, because they'll 'make up for the difference' in tips. The average tip well range from 10%-20% of the total bill, but obviously you're welcome to leave as much as you'd like based on their quality of work.
[HTC EVO 3D] .Elite_The_King.:
Tipping is not a donation you don't get to decide if you want to tip or not you have too unless that's the way you feel about donations.

Sent from my powered Shooter E3D with Infection of AnthraX Jamz by wolf.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I'm a very good tipper, however, unless a 15% gratuity is added to your bill, you are not REQUIRED to tip. Its expected, but not required, and if you don't tip, expect poor service or spit in your food the next time you go to that establishment.

The whole thing about waiters and waitresses was in reference to people saying that some ROM developers don't do much besides use tools of people like dsixda and Jesusfreak, and I said that's like saying a waiter doesn't deserve a tip because they 'only brought you food, made by someone else'. Which clearly I don't agree with

Edit: and if you read my previous posts in this thread, on how I feel about donations...no one should feel obligated to donate to anyone. But if a user feels that they want to show appreciation to anyone here, then by all means, donate whatever to whomever.

But I'm not going to treat anyone differently for donating, not donating, accepting donations or not accepting them. I'm here because I love tweaking and modding and building onto Android. If I get asked for help, time pending, I'll help anyone that I'm capable of helping, regardless of their stance on donations.
[HTC EVO 3D] .Elite_The_King.:
It's all good man. But it's about dudes that have a Big O signature saying or making you feel as if you have to donate because you're using their ("Tweak Out') work, I just avoid them completely their tweak out work is same as others is nothing new really. But you're cool man no disrespect man.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
You HAVE to tip????? Last time I checked, tipping is optional. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
No disrespect taken my man.

As I said before, people that are trying to build things strictly for money/donations will quickly realize that, while this community can be very generous, they're not going to be able up quit their day job, and they'll stop making mods/roms/etc out of frustration...unless they develop a passion and enjoyment for the things they're doing. Which will then curb their greedy tendencies

Did you bother reading my response special-k? Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Atomix86:
Well that's ridiculous. Here in England waiters and waitresses get paid a standard wage like any job, I have never once been to a place where you could tip.

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[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
A recognized dev shouldn't have to debate about donations, your fans should do that for you. Also, I doubt that anybody will donate to a dev who doesn't have a passion for the stuff (which in turn means good work) or does good work but, it's always up to the people to decide who gets the donations.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I don't know if this was a stab at me, but this is a discussion thread. I'm not here asking for anything from anyone.

I've seen a lot of 'good work' come from people that just put it out there because they'd made it. Go check the bottom of the development section. A fair amount of posted work that never got updated nor supported. I'm not saying these works weren't from passionate people, but I know the things I've posted, I support and update as often as I can/is needed. Go check the viperROM thread for confirmation of that.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
I think that we can all agree that we don't think people should ask for donations. If someone wants to donate to another person that is completely up to them. That is just life. If someone wants to give you money, you accept it, or don't, but its up to them to give it. Whether you deserve it or not is up to them to decide, if they want to donate to the guy who just made build.prop edit because they think his rom is the best, that is their prerogative.

With all of that being said, I personally (and this in no way reflects the views of XDA) think that no one should have a donate link in their signature. I don't think they should have a donate link in their OP, I don't think anyone should ask for donations for their work. We all have the ability to have the "Donate to me" button by our avatar, I think that is enough. If someone wants to donate to you, they can click that link, its not hard.

/hands soapbox back to freeza
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I'm going to find the biggest donate button to put in my sig, just for you
[HTC EVO 3D] Siya Nová:
I know that these devs do this stuff for fun, but I believe if someone does an awesome job on some work you should donate, like wtf is 5 or 10 bucks to buy a guy a beer or coffee or a pack of smokes for the countless hours of work they put into these projects? You shouldnt feel obligated to donate, but imagine your phone still stock, these guys aren't asking for much or handouts they have dedicated themselves and worked hard for the benifit of the community, they don't have to share anything with us but they do, so show some appreciate with a thanks or a buck or two if you can spare it :)
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Welcome to the concept of a world outside of England that doesn't work exactly the same way. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
Nope, not a stab at anyone. Just saying that devs here are great.

?you're a recognized dev, you obviously deserve donations. Not everyone is good enough to get recognized dev status.

Sent from my tf9001 with XDA XD.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Well put :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Atomix86:
I never said there wasn't, I'm just astonished that America is bad enough to not even offer minimum wage to waiters.

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[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
America isn't a country, my friend. It is the name of two continents. And, stop debating about waiters people, it's useless.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Malherbe:
I would like to know how to be notified of the full charge of battery on Cyanogen rom.

Notification is on stock rom,but not on CM Mod.

Thank you :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] thespb:
I think full battery notification is not available in any CM rom!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Malherbe:
The problem is that we do not know if the battery is fully charged, even if 100% is indicated on the lockscreen.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Jappert:
ferved gedpap

I recognize this problem and would very much like to know if there is a solution!

I'm using CyanogenMod 9.0.0-RC0-GalaxyICS-UNOFFICIAL-beta8
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] zizibuba:
I would really love to have that option.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adil_:
Charge your phone to 100%... Wait for another 30 to 60 mins...

Switch it off... If it's fully charged,it'll show 100% in the battery image...

Peace.

CooperGT Engine Team member.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] eliazxd:
easy

You can have a notification of full charge... with TASKER ;) and do more things.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kevin03:
The best way to know if your phone is fully charged, go to settings>about phone>status. If the battery status is "full" then your phone is fully charged. If it says "charged" then your phone is not yet fully charged.

Press THANKS if I helped.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] opawix00:
*Charging
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] subha632:
Download battery status bar from play store... you can set notification sound when the battery is fully charged or you can see manually in notification area

Sent from my GT-S5830 using CyanogenMod 7.2 by FAT
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kevin03:
There is "charging" and "charged" there.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kevintangi:
mine is quite different. i see a 'thunder' or 'electric' icon on the battery icon when it is charging.. my opinion, when that 'thunder' icon gone, the battery's fully charged :D

just my opinion :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] K.A.:
Download any of the battery indicator apps...

this one works best for me...stays in the status bar and u can set an alarm type alert when battery is full..

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5lbHZpc29uLmJhdHRlcnl3aWRnZXQiXQ..
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
Today i contacted HTC Center to ask them about the battery drain issue and overheating happes after updating to ICS they didn't give me a quit good answer for all they questions but,, they give a way to check battery life ..

NOTE: if ur device dzn't pass this send it back to repair

1ST A range of 10-20 hours of battery life is normal based on individual usage patterns, you may try dialing *#*#4636#*#* to check the battery information including health and status.

To optimize the performance of the battery follow the below:

1. turn off Wireless connections (Wi-Fi, Mobile Network, Bluetooth) when not in use

2. Stop services and apps running in the background by going to menu> settings> applications> Running services> tap the service you want to close> tap stop/Close.

3. Adjust the display settings to where it uses less battery and meets your needs

Here are also some tips for you to conserve battery life if you are experiencing this issue.

? Try rebooting your phone every few hours. Rebooting your phone clears the phone internal memory and shuts down programs that may be running in the background and using battery.

? Try turning off the data connection when not in use. Data connections in the background and syncing can cause the phone to use more battery even when sleeping.

? You can set your display to brightness to auto. Allowing the phone to adjust the brightness allows for optimal viewing while conserving as much battery as possible.

IMPORTANT

You may also try the battery test, by following the instructions below:

1. Restart your device

2. Turn on Airplane Mode

3. Connect your device to the charger, and charge it fully

4. Set Screen Brightness to Max.

5. Set Screen Time out to never.

6. Dial *#*#3424#*#*, choose battery run down test, and follow the instructions.

NOTE: If the device loses more than 40% of battery in an hour, then send your device to the repair center for repair.

pplzzzz post somthing to keep the thread alive.

IF you like it HIT

THANKS​

IT Manager Musa91:rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] Pikabat:
Sorry to burst your bubble but these step will actually reduce the battery , if your phone drains a lot and heats up you have a faulty device that's it.

If you reboot often phone consumes a lot more by loading everything AGAIN it wont save your battery at all.

Autobrightness doesn't always work , its better if you manually set it to 35%- 40%.

Turning off wireless and data will conserve battery that's like smartphone 101 , who doesn't know that?

Android and particularly ICS automatically terminates unnecessary background processes, there is no point in killing them. In fact if you do that often it will consume more battery to start them again if they are needed. Just remember to swipe away apps after you're done, ICS will take care of the rest.

As for the battery tip , after you initiate the test phone will ask you to turn airplane mode on, it will also keep the max brightness level and wont turn off the screen so there is no need to perform the steps you've posted.

posting to keep it alive lol
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
i didn't either convinced with there answers as i told they wasn't direct ....

this is just a test nothing else...

and about overheating and reboots it's only happen to allot of people after ICS update

i do normally after flashing any rom set the brightness to 35% ..

lol;)

i did the 1 hour test and my battery level get down to 74%

the battery heat was between 32.3 to 43.7 C
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
u keeped it a way way over life:D
[HTC Sensation] krazy_about_technology:
While I agree with you on most of the other points, this one needs a bit of explanation. Although, the memory management in ICS is far better and is a bit like what Windows Vista and 7 do, at times you do need to kill some messy programs which play with system privileges and hog battery, like the famous facebook application.

GB and ICS use in-memory program caching like Vista and Windows 7, i.e. they keep frequently running programs in RAM and use as much memory as possible (or in sane limits in case of 7) for this task. It is freed automatically if a program requires more RAM. Thats why even when a large part of memory appears to be consumed most of the times on ICS/GB and Vista/7, large program still run perfectly well. The OS is just consuming the RAM that is lying around when no program is using it. GB and ICS even introduced a "Cached Applications" view in their "Running Apps" screen to take a look at these cached apps.

This makes the killing of background processes optimized for the OS as processes which are not used for long time can be marked inactive first and then cached. These cached processes can then be removed in cases memory is required by some program.

But there are some nasty apps like the Facebook app which not only keeps processes in background, but also keeps them active and mark the services spawned from the main executable as system services hence they are not killed at all. Facebook's background upload system, the so called "push notifications" service, all these take CPU and other resources all the time and dramatically reduce the battery life. Hence killing these manually is still required.

This is my personal experience or perception or whatever.
[HTC Sensation] Pikabat:
What you're saying is true but its still not accurate. As you mentioned facebook is marking its processes as system service which means it gonna try to start again automatically. As I said before there is no point in killing, also facebook made some improvements in this area. I remember that old version was using about 40mb of ram when it was idling but now it uses about 8-9mb. As for the push notifications I've disabled them so I cant comment on that but I do know that its not always working.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
You may as well talk to a wall.

This guy makes stuff up and posts it as fact, then begs for thanks for his posts. He claims he's an expert but doesn't know the most basic things about how Android phones work.

I mean for crying out loud....ICS is well known to add about 20% to battery life. It's one of the best features of the new version. There were countless threads about the improvement people saw when first switching to ICS a few months ago when it first started to come out. Yet this thread basically suggests that it's a known fact that ICS causes increased battery drain.

Taking his advice is somewhere between counterproductive to your goals and downright dangerous to your device depending on what he's suggesting.
[HTC Sensation] Diamondback:
Guys, please stay on topic. There is no need to call this guide "dangerous".

His points might not bring any advantage but they are not dangerous either.

Neutral discussions are okay, but please don't start attacking each other.

We are in a forum were we want to help each other and not having contests on the best guides or whatever.

I won't comment every single point made here, but both sides have their rights and wrongs.

So please keep this technical.

Personal attacks are not tolerated on XDA.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
When you suggest mixing and matching elements of different versions of hacked firmware, that most certainly is dangerous. (For the phone anyway)

So much can go wrong doing a thing like that.

And when someone is recomending doing that as a sollution to every new problem someone suggests without regard to ROM, current firmware, the specific problem, android version, etc etc.....that is irresponcible.

Thats what this guy is doing in several other threads. This thread isnt one of the damgerous ones. Its one of the counterproductive ones I mentioned.

Someone will screw up thier phone with this advice. Pointing this out is not insulting to 1 person. Its being helpful to hundreds.

If we just sit silently and not say anything about bad advice, we wouldnt be very good forum members.

Sent from a rebel ship by storing the message in an R2 unit. (Help me, XDA. You're my only hope)
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
you are a 1 of two ::: either u r racism or u can't read coz this is not me invented this way of test IT's HTC HELP CENTER AS I WROTE IN THE TITLE READ well

"Today i contacted HTC Center to ask them about the battery drain issue and overheating happes after updating to ICS they didn't give me a quit good answer for all they questions but,, they give a way to check battery life .. "

and the other thread you talk about is proofed with video and photo's and cleared how to use it with the right firmware with specific ROM so stop this chasing out and don't make ur self looks like a hero we all here support each other to provide a good solution for other's so keep it that way :mad: end of discussion.
[HTC Sensation] broncogr:
Ok final warning regarding attitude to all.

If I see any more of this there will be consequences to all.

Consider this a final warning...
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
Not true. No documented cases of it harming the Sensation. 3.12 and 3.32 are very similar. Also, with the development mode flash fix coming out any day now, even if someone bugs up their hboot or something, it'll be recoverable similar to how Samsung phones to use ODIN to completely flash back.
[HTC Sensation] musa91:
i completely agree with you since i experanced that myself many times when i 1st buy the sensation so many wrong flashes then it's recoverd and back to work just fine;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phelixthecat:
Mobile signal is perfectly fine - I can send and receive calls and SMS. I am running G2Slim 1.6. Radio is the latest - 26.13.04.19_M, but I tried several different radios with no result. I have tried every combination of data roaming/only 2g networks allowed/disallowed. I have talked to the reps at the store and they said everything should be correctly activated as far as the SIM goes and data should be working.

It is entirely possible that this is a hardware problem with my phone - I've been having problems with my WiFi that seem to be caused by hardware. However, data works fine in the U.S. Any ideas? What steps can I take to diagnose this?