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[General Topics] giupeppo:
Moddable smartphone on a budget

Hi guys, I'm writing vere because I need help to choose a smartphone.

At the moment I've got a Samsung galaxy nexus (maguro) with cm12 installed but ithe battery is allmost dead and it's a bit laggy.

I would like to buy a new phone with 200$ but it should supporto custom ROM (my phone is now 4 years old and the last official firmware is 4.3...)

The problem is that it seems there aren't affordable good phones with custom ROM compatibility.

- P8 lite -> no roms (mediatek)

- Wiko fever -> very powerful here in Europeo but no roms (mediatek again)

- Zenfone laser -> 5.5 is top big and 5 only has 2200 mah battery.

Any suggestion please?

Thank you very much!
[General Topics] myawan:
Custom ROMs are a dying breed.
[General Topics] giupeppo:
What do you mean with that? How can I keep my phone updated then?

My old phone is now running cm 12, I'd prefer to use 4.3 or 4.4 since they're faster but I've read a lot of articles about vulnerabilities on old firmware. I don't know exactly if is safe to run them, but since my smartphone is connected to all my accounts..

Could you suggest a particular model even if not moddable?

Thanks
[General Topics] 3di:
At the moment i would choose Opo 2, or if you could wait Opo 3.

In case you like to Flash.

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[General Topics] jordanishere:
Let's see what Google releases later this year under the nexus brand...
[General Topics] Yuzee:
maybe htc new generation
[General Topics] kurdish11:
HTC one X+
[General Topics] Yuzee:
nexus 8 i think.... hahaha
[General Topics] RunasSudo:
I'm eyeing the LG Optimus 4X HD. The specs make me drool and the price isn't too high.
[General Topics] MDak280:
Long story about how I decided:

After hearing about the HTC One X+, that definitely caught my attention, and that was the phone I was planning on getting. Being a T-Mobile user, I was excited when I saw the leaked image of the supposed X+ with the T-Mobile branding. But then AT&T announced that the X+ would be exclusive to it... so, since it doesn't seem that there are any other new Android's coming out (that grab my attention) anytime soon, I looked to Windows, which is coming out with their Windows Phone 8 OS soon. I could just get a GSIII but I honestly don't like Samsung phones.

The Nokia Lumia 920 looks to be an amazing gadget and quickly caught my attention. I was super angry and annoyed that AT&T announced exclusivity on yet another great flagship device... and also quite shocked at how foolish Nokia is for keeping this beast of a phone exclusive to only one U.S. carrier.

So now I find myself looking at a slightly less impressive Windows Phone - the Windows Phone 8X by HTC. It seems to be confirmed to be released with T-Mobile and the design is just amazing. The size is perfect for me, not to big, not to small, unlike the large and slightly bulky Nokia Lumia 920. The camera and audio seem to be promising (the front facing camera especially looks impressive) and the price is bound to be lower than the Lumia. Really the only con I see is the lack of expandable memory, but 16 GB is honestly more than enough for me (on my current phone, I've only used ~5GB so far and I still have ~3 to go that I probably won't use unless I snap a ton of random pics/download a ton of random music). What's also disappointing is that I'll be missing out on some of Nokia's awesome apps and cool features, but oh well.

In conclusion, the 8X seems like it will be a really nice phone, but I'm still annoyed by AT&T. When I go off to live on my own, I'm never switching to AT&T, but I think I want to leave T-Mobile because they always seem to miss out on the best flagship phones. Then again, I'm not sure if that would work out since T-Mobile is the cheapest. Anyways, excited to make the switch to Windows and see how it compares to Android!

tl;dr, I'm getting the Windows Phone 8X by HTC because AT&T is stupid. :)
[General Topics] bsbuggs:
i think a widows phone is next, worth giving it a shot...
[General Topics] frnkly:
A tin can, with string and built in wifi and a touch screen..... :)

Sent from a apple product
[General Topics] undercover:
You already have one judging by the signature above :D
[General Topics] Jbluna:
Not entirely sure exactly, but it sure as hell'll be an unlocked one.
[General Topics] fanaticprakash:
xiaomi mi 2 :D

The beast!!!
[General Topics] GPhoenix:
I'm with you on the unlock part. That and possible a removable battery, external SD slot, and it can't be a Motorola phone for the foreseeable future...

Thinking of picking up a Lenovo P700/P700i. Specwise looks like a great phone for traveling around Asia (dual sim dual standby) with a nice large battery at 2500mAh. Anyone have experience with it?
[General Topics] frnkly:
I have a galaxy s2 and I'm, waiting for jb to come out ....my sig is just for fun....I would never go back to a apple product....Android all the way for me.....:)

Sent from a apple product
[General Topics] undercover:
I have ipad 2 and love it.

I wish JB would come out officially for my Sensation. Especially after seeing that S2 is getting it.
[General Topics] daBayrus:
The next Nexus smartphone will be made by LG.. yawner..
[General Topics] :
The first decent one was the Motorola Milestone
[General Topics] Robbilie:
In general it isnt a good idea to buy a phone with brand new technology because it isnt that much potimized and such...

But I just preordered the most aewsome phone in thought of technology (not design though/sadly...)

The Motorola RAZR i :)
[General Topics] nefariousity:
I totally want a droid RAZR or maxx.
[General Topics] SparkyXI:
The wife...

...will be getting a RAZR M soon (per my instruction). She hates the "monster screen" phones (G3, GNex, etc), and she's always loved VZW service.
[General Topics] ok2play:
Not sure where to ask this?

Not sure where to comment here since new I cannot reply?????

In Windows 8 for newbies questions was asked about no sound and no Realtek driver for windows 8?

I have Windows 8 Pro and realtek HD audio driver version:6.0.1.6690 Driver date: 7/24/12 and works great.

Question for Windows 8 Pro, I have found a mod to add the old start button to Windows 8 but it did not work. Does anyone have any ideas or links to mods that would accomplish this? I have lost my Hulu and Norton short cuts so I just reinstalled Hulu labs and got that shortcut back but have not been able to get Norton shortcut back? Not sure the best way at this point to accomplish this? As of right now I just drilled down C:\ProgramFilesx86\Norton360\Engine64\20.1.1.2 and Only application I could find that would accomplish what I wanted but do not believe this is the correct app I should be using is, uiStub.exe, so I created a shortcut and placed on my desktop.

Next going to my ATT galaxy S3 I installed ROM CM10-cfx-20121006-OFFICAL-d2att, seems pretty sweet so far compared to the other 2 jelly bean roms I tried and 1 kept crashing other seemed very limiting. However, How do I get s note, s voice, and stock apps like this back? I know I ran across links to add these early on in my searches but am not seeming to find them now that I need them? I did add gapps to get google play but what about the rest? once I find the download to add s note will this give me the capability to write with stylus in SMS again? I see nothing in setting for this now? Think it was in keyboard settings before?

I should be able to find it but also need to find the files again to add to my font file so I can view emojis.

Again, sorry I realize this is not where this should be posted but with limited access to post only in general????
[General Topics] SirVer:
There are quite a few options, the best of which would be a OnePlus One, if you could find it at that price, but I don't know how prices change in Europe, so I'll assume it's not an option. I suggest you check out a company called Wileyfox - they're based in the UK, and have two solid midrangers available: the Swift and the Storm. People seem to prefer the Swift over the Storm, but I'll let you check out the specs and decide for yourself. The pricing is very good (£130 - £200), and should not change all that much within Europe. The best part is that they run Cyanogen - so development should not be an issue, though I don't know how long it will stay that way. I know that the Swift has official CyanogenMod (not Cyanogen) Marshmallow, though I don't know about the Storm. Check 'em out.
[General Topics] 3di:
I think These are very nice phones, but unfortunately they don't Support Band 20 (800 MHz) LTE - so you should check if you need those in your country.

Regards

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[General Topics] 350Rocket:
You could get a used Nexus 5 for that price. That will still be fast and lots of development, should last another couple years. Hardware is easy to repair on lg phones if you have to replace the battery or power button.
[General Topics] 3di:
Heres a post from the Opo Forums, I think you could interpret the grafic as a forecast - so for me OPO3 seems to get a FullHD Screen

I wished for a 2k Amoled. So im only halfe happy :)

Here the link
[General Topics] NeoMatrixJR:
Next phone/carrier woes cont'd.

Not necessarily sticking with Sprint. I do love the idea of unlimited data, but I don't really likely need it. I had one month go > 8gb (not sure how that happened!), had a couple go > 4gb, but I'm averaging about 3.33GB/mo. I'd like to find something cheaper. My wife's on Verizon and I feel like I'm spending WAY too much between our bills (she's on a 1GB plan...we've come close, but she's not gone over). I'd like to find a cheaper alternative and I've been looking at some of the MVNOs. I have a feeling I'm going to need to find one I can bring my choice of phone to as none of them seem to have flagship phones and I really like having good tech to work with. Sprint won't work with anything they don't sell AFAIK, so moto would be out. Nexus is on my low-possibility list due to lack of SD slot, though if I'm getting out of custom ROMs and root customizations and photos back to cloud...maybe I don't need that anymore. I'm located in IA and while I'm generally in Des Moines/larger city I have family in rural areas. T-Mobile sucks even in town...or at least it did last I used it nearly a decade ago and I haven't heard of much improvement. VZW & US Cellular have the best signal strength just about anywhere you go here, but are pricy. Because of rural use though I'll need something that'll work on 3G CDMA networks most likely. I think my sister-in-law had troubles with AT&T/GSM out on the farm.

Yeah, let's just forget the part where you mentioned the iTurd (sorry...I hate apple....)... :D I'd rather be stuck buying a kick-ass stock android phone and * have to tote around a hotspot and make wifi calls or buy a flip-phone then switch to apple. Heck, I'd rather switch to a windows phone. I actually used to like Windows Mobile on my old HTC devices and I am a .NET developer by trade so I could code for the darn thing...if I ever had time. :)

*ignore the hotspot/wifi idea....that sounds horrible now that I think of the logistics and issues receiving calls and everything.

My G3 has been pretty good to me but I know it had more issues on stock than I've had to deal with. I had considered a G5 (once they come down) and taking it to another MVNO or something. Also was considering the next Sammy Note if they're any good stock. Not sure how that would play out yet.... I know Motos are pretty good and the Nexus would actually be a fairly obvious choice if I can get over the SD card issue. Not sure where HTC is in the game anymore.
[General Topics] Planterz:
I'm at 116gb this month (last day of the pay cycle). And that's a slow month for me. But my phone is my home internet.

T-Mobile has really stepped up their game the past year or three, but I live in a city, so I can't speak for rural areas, and I keep hearing that rural areas are where they're lacking. They used to suck here, but around fall of 2013 that changed. And it just happens that the craphole apartments I live in has a T-Mobile relay on top of my building about 70 feet away, so I'm lucky in that regard.

HTC is coming out with a couple new devices, and right now there's only rumors and speculation. I'm definitely interested in what the next Moto X or Lenovo or whatever they're calling it will be. I'm loving my Nexus 6, and I came damn close to getting the 5.7" Moto X. because 64+200gb (I got just got one of those cards) was extremely tempting (it was the GPU that kept me away). The next Moto X is gonna be good.
[General Topics] NoOneLt:
Hello everyone, help needed!

Tried to analize what can i buy at the moment but you know.... i already spent around 8 hrs digging and brain started to overheat So maybe i can get some advices from community to save some time.

What i need: Descent all rounder, i think i would like smaller/lighter phone, but i never had big one so i don't really know... I don't know if i really need very powerful phone, but i can afford 50EUR difference to get more powerful version to be more future-proof. I can play with firmwares, but after some time it get's boring I don't think if i need a lot of storage, but again, files get bigger and bigger, so maybe if i'll have it i'll use it. I could spend ~250 total, but more into ~220 max (taxes and VAT included). i really don't feel like spending a lot of money on something i can break, loose or drop...

What i discovered that seems interesting to me:

1. Xiaomi Mi4c 3/32GB SD 808 version, i can get it to my country, it is EU for 215EUR total.

Pros i see: 5" as i really don't know do i need a big phone, using Lumia 735 now. removable battery (as i do not like buying new phone every year, so if it will be ok in 2 years i just replace battery and keep using it)

Cons: There is thread here that multitouch don't work properly. Dont' know any other, i just jumped into search and just' don't know what is trending.

2. Meizu M1 Metal 2/32 Helio X10 ~220 EUR

Pros: Seems to be more powerful?

Cons: non-removable battery, too big? I really don't know about big phone

2. Redmi Note 3 Pro with SD

Pros: Very powerful, SD slot aviable

Cons: non removable battery, size (again), camera

To compare prices locally i can get: Alcatel Idol 3 4,7 version ~200EUR. LG G3 D855 Titan ~260EUR, Samsung Galaxy A3 A300F 220 EUR, XPERIA M4 AQUA 220 EUR to have an idea.

Appreciate any advice from experienced community!
[General Topics] SirVer:
The Mi4c has no SD slot or removable battery, so you'd have to get the 32 GB version; trust me, in 2016, any phone you buy must either have an SD slot, or 32 internal at the minimum.

I don't know how development is for the Meizu,, but since it's MediaTek, I wouldn't expect much. They're a Chinese company, so you can't expect many updates, which means custom ROMs are the only way you could increase its lifetime.

The Redmi Note 3 has possibly the best specs you could get for anywhere near that price, and development has already started taking off. However, unlocking the bootloader is a pain in the a**, and its camera seems to be below par for Xiaomi, but average for that price segment.

Of your local options, I'd say the G3 is hands down the best of them - I'm using one now, and it still flies on Marshmallow. You'll probably have to flash a custom ROM pretty soon though - the LG UI lags after a while. The G3 is also the only phone you've mentioned with a removable battery. Oh, and if you're considering the G3, check out the OnePlus One as well - same core specs as the G3, but you might be able to get it cheaper.

I don't know how prices are in Europe, so the number of devices I can recommend decreases, but I can suggest that you check out a company called Wileyfox; UK based, so their advertised prices should be more or less the same across Europe. They have two devices: the Swift and the Storm. I think the Swift will be well suited for you, because it's a 5 inch, and has a removable battery, but I don't think I'd recommend the Storm, even if it has better specs, because at that price, you might as well pay some more and get much better, and also because reviews were rather mixed about it - look them up.

And about the screen size: if you're used to 5 inches, you can handle 5.5 if the screen-to-body ratio is good enough. The G3 has a ratio of 75%, which means it's almost like handling a 5 inch device; I upgraded to it from a 4.5 inch, and it only took me a few days to adjust. One-handed typing is still a bit difficult at times, though. The Redmi Note 3 has only slightly bigger dimensions (ratio of 72%), so it should be easy to handle (IIRC, reviews of it said the same).

One more thing: if you want updates, you should probably stay away from Chinese companies (except OnePlus), because they don't release many updates at all. The Redmi would probably still be OK, since it has an SD processor, and so will probably have development.
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
About updates, I've bought and sold quite a few phones lately.... Sold my m8 from Telus Mobility and it had official marshmallow already. Now I have a moto x 2014 pure edition which is on stock marshmallow, but my mom has a moto x 2014 xt1097 from Telus and it's had marshmallow for a while already. My one plus one I sold less than two months ago was still on 5.1.1 surprisingly when the m8 and moto x had already been updated for a while.

On my carrier Telus.... Which seems to be good about updates... At least with moto and HTC.... LG g2 got abandoned on 4.4.2 and last I looked both lg and Samsung were lagging behind on all their recent devices with telus for updates. They actually have a chart on their website listing all the update schedules.
[General Topics] Hynkel:
Hi all, first post here!

I am looking to replace my 30-month old LG G2 whose screen I broke along with the digitizer. Despite areas of the screen being kaput it still was somewhat usable, but over the past couple of weeks the screen suddenly became barely responsive and I had trouble performing even the most basic functions, and this as well as the repair cost enticed me to go look for a new phone.

And so I have set out to find a phone for a budget of less than €300. I wanted a phone that has at least 16GB of memory, a SD card slot, good quality build, a stock UI that doesn't feel too bloated and specs that woudn't be too much of a downgrade from the G2. I have found several devices that fit the bill so far:

- Huawei Honor 5X, Huaweis usually have a very good quality/price ratio

- Lg G3, basically an upgrade but came out 2 years ago and unsure about OS upgrade availability

- Xiaomi Redmi note 3, very aggressive pricing and good specs but camera seems below par

- Sony Xperia M5

- Huawei GX8

The last two are found at above €300 but I can get these within my budget thanks to an €100 offer.

Any advices?
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
What do you guys think about the new announced Huawei P9 Plus? Specs looks nice but I have three points, that I don't like that much: 1. MediaTek prozessor and only availability in Europe so Development will go against zero? 2. "Only" Full HD screen, but for VR 2K screen is very nice to have. 3. USB Type C only with speed like USB 2.0...but what do you think?
[General Topics] NOSTALGIA:
i dont mind mediatek devices as long as huawei updates it.. the simplier the better for me..
[General Topics] MaxxSound:
Geaux Swappa. You did very well with 4 years old. :cowboy:
[General Topics] wuvio:
I need a phone with snapdragon 652 (650 is ok too I guess) 1080p screen, 5.5 or less screen, 3gb ram, replaceable battery, band 12 with t mobile. So far only g5 lite made in the list, but the international version is not even out yet, so not sure if it could be unlock to use with t mobile. Alcatel 4s will be having 652, but with that 2k display and non removable battery, I would think twice before I purchase.
[General Topics] force70:
If you are going with Huawei id go with a mate 8 or nexus 6P

Sent from my Note 5 or Nexus 6P
[General Topics] SirVer:
The P9's use Kirin, not MediaTek. But yeah, development will be slow.

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Huawei 5X is a good phone, but it has an even more extensive skin than Touchwiz. It works well, but it is rather heavy. Same goes for all Huawei devices.

I assume by GX8, you mean the G8, which you should avoid - Huawei screwed up the firmware on it, serious performance issues.

The G3 is good, but as you said, it probably won't get many more updates - maybe N, but that's it. There's always custom ROMs, though.

Xperia M5 looks OK, but I feel you could get better for the price. Plus it uses a MediaTek, so instant minus; I don't know development would be for this device, though Sony is generally good about updates, even if they are slow at it.

Have you considered the OnePlus One or the OnePlus X? They seem to fit you well. There's also the ZUK Z1 and Honor 7, if you can get them in your budget. Oh, and there may be some Samsung devices you could get, but I wouldn't know because I don't keep track of Sammy devices much; you'd have to ask someone else. ?

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Redmi Note 3? Non-removable battery, but the rest of it fits.

EDIT: Forgot about band 12 - Redmi doesn't have it.
[General Topics] wuvio:
Redmi Note 3? Non-removable battery, but the rest of it fits.

Redmi note 3 won't have any of the t mobile LTE bands
[General Topics] myawan:
OEMs should write upgrade cycle alongwith specs as well......
[General Topics] SirVer:
Redmi note 3 won't have any of the t mobile LTE bands[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, forgot about that, will edit - thanks for the heads up.
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
well if the charging port gives up, I agree with you, I would of course consider wireless charging. but thats the only case I would want use it.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Is there a big difference between MediaTek and Kirin?

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How much is the Mate 8 or Nexus 6P now in Euros?
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
After a month, I called HTC, my phone STILL in service, so after reading this thread and the various recommendations, I decided yesterday to get a "temporary" backup phone until its fixed. I planned to buy the Xiaomi note 3 pro , not available they said, Redmi 2 was sold out, OPPO R7plus they didnt have..... so ended up getting the OPPO F1. At first it felt alot slower than my HTC M9, but realizing that was a wrong comparison, and using it for a while I realized its actually very good value for what you pay. the display screen is very sensitive and its a wierd dual-sim system. - I use nano sim, so they had to use an adaptor - in the F1 your first sim MUST be micro sim card, if you want to use external SD card same time. easily solved. However, If you use nano sim only and no SD card, then you just put the nano sim in the second slot "sideways". ...new for me LOL. The phone weight and dimension feels good in the hand also. No complaints so far.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Definitely. Last year's flagship Kirin 950 beat everything else on the market in terms of CPU performance, including the Helio X10. Kirin processors have only one main weakness, which would be the GPU, which is a weakness MediaTek shares. The 950 still has a good GPU, just not flagship material.
[General Topics] EdAus:
And if your at work and forever pickup phone and put it down. Wore out note 1 port doing just that. Wireless charging is great for battery top up, without having to remove/insert charger 40 times a day.
[General Topics] Hynkel:
Come to think of it... is there a phone with wireless charging available for below 300?
[General Topics] 3di:
G3..

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[General Topics] simonbigwave:
I never really saw it that way. i guess very useful for those who work in an office. I always just saw it as slower than cable charging and you cant do anything while it is charging. I agree it would be "great for battery top up" in that case.
[General Topics] udo 240:
I own a nexus 5 and 6 and love it on both devices; )