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[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Verizon is the number one reason their phones arent always running the latest firmwares. It was kinda clear from the info posted that this wouldn't be ICS IMO (which my opinion usually doesn't mean anything anyway ;) ) If you look at all of the models they carry that are not "supposed" to get ICS, that have "better specs" then our Plays, it was clear to me .... and Verizon didnt care much about the Xperia Play either though, they were to busy selling iphones , and if you look at their sales, they have sold more iphones in recent quarters then all of their android models combined (but could be due to the fact that they didnt carry the iphone before anyway, random I know). I would hope they drop 2.3.4 on the Play, it would be long over due and still partly outdated (like most of their updates) I for one dont care if they officially make 2.3.4 though, I would much rather have a newer baseband that worked with the Uk 2.3.4 systems because (and here comes another IMO) but screw Verizon firmware. . .
[Xperia Play General] Selim873:
An update is still an update. :)
[Xperia Play General] netizenmt:
And a BAD update is worse than no update at all.
[Xperia Play General] Snow755:
i think it will be android 2.3.7

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-7-2-0-rc1-is-upon-us
[Xperia Play General] paxChristos:
I'm pretty sure Verizon wants nothing to do with CyanogenMod.

Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
Ics is not updating ota lol
[Xperia Play General] CapNM77:
But when every time you call they say we have your complaint logged. I loose hope because everything I said is recorded. So they just listen to my complaints and laugh.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
You make a good point, but I won't let them off that easy, they still haven't addressed the issues at hand, enough unsolved complaints linked to my account and they will owe me in about a month or two, its worked that way in the past.
[Xperia Play General] rayjay1999:
I just finished chating with Sony tech support they said they will make a note for the next update and they have not got many complaint's about it. So we may want to talk to Sony. Say what it is a software bug.
[Xperia Play General] droidjunkie:
I am betting they changed something with the kernel or something in the way it connects to servers. They as in Verizon as since it has been said that Verizon gets the updates from Sony and changes it to work with cdma network.
[Xperia Play General] KeiranFTW:
Maybe they just fudged up the framework -_-

Shows you that more testing goes into CM than Verizon's crap.

Okay, so they gave you the 2.3.4, but broken? What the hell man?
[Xperia Play General] droidjunkie:
What framework would I look into to see if they fudged it up?
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Just wanted to add an addendum to my instructions here. I noticed some apps do not properly show notifications when restored like this. GroupMe is one of them. If this happens I found simply uninstalling the app and re-installing from the play store works...... Edit: works intermittently. This sucks
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Due to my constant phone calls every day and constant professionally complaints, and the fact Verizon couldn't solve my issue, I even denied that they send me a replacement running 2.3.3 because the 2.3.4 update notification would be an annoyance, I received 30$ off my phone bill for the next year :D I'd say that's pretty awesome :D
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Well this sucks.

So I decided to "Start over" on my phone since groupme doesn't work right I figured restoring data may not have worked as planned. Took a nandorid backup, flashed 2.3.3 went to download the update "Your phone is up to date" would not download the update at all. No matter what I try it won't download. Now its saying download error and wont download it.

So then I restored the nandroid, figured screw it just go back to what I had. Now WiFi is dead, I can't connect to my damn router. AND the Camera crashes. UGH f-you verizon! (This is because the nandroid doesn't back up the Kernel... so youre screwed when this happens)

Morning edit: It downloaded today...... Whew!
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Before you edited it, you kinda got my hopes up that they pulled the update and were fixing it.. guess not :rolleyes:

Sent from my R800x using CM9
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Yeah no, of course not, they aren't gonna fix it.

I'm even more of an idiot, because of course now that it worked in the morning I tried to do everything in a rush (since I had to go to work). Well I downloaded some widgets I use forgetting that the SetInstallLocation was set to 2 so they went to my SD card, and of course they wouldn't work. Then I got angry and just restored my nandroid (Since I wanted my phone to just work and have my calendar at this point) forgetting that because they were on the SD card thats why they don't work.

Will have to try this frustrating experiment again. But I have 2 apps (GroupMe and Race Monitor) that don't send notifications anymore since this update and I'm trying to pinpoint if its because I restored my user data as opposed to starting over, or if its an inherent issue with this crapped up update. Plus I was hoping to have a little more clear space starting over again.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Its sad that you wouldn't even be in this predicament if Verizon had just made the update correct!
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Exactly!

I mean yes I have to take some responsibility as I did root my phone and screw with it, and had I kept it "stock" it might have "just worked", but come on, the reason I had to do it in the first place is because they lock you into their pay to play bloatware and stupid proofing.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
You took responsibility in making your phone the way you wanted ;) we pay Verizon for phone service to a device, the device is yours to do as you please, and your only working on giving yourself better running software then Verizon will seem to ever do. Cheers and Good luck with your current efforts.
[Xperia Play General] beez1717:
Now all we need is Sony to give us ICS soon....
[Xperia Play General] Wii89:
Good luck with verizon pushing it.
[Xperia Play General] :
As i said before, i think verizon gave us this update so they wouldn't have to give us ics. i don't think they will give another update after they worked their lazy asses to get this one through. so just wait a year or so to get ics
[Xperia Play General] beez1717:
Sony said they are going to have you update with their app so I'm hoping that means we Verizon users get ICS too.
[Xperia Play General] Wii89:
If that were true, this thread would not exist. All of Song's updates are pushed using the Update Tool or OTA's and Verizon needs a CDMA version, which is pushed using OTA'S, which are up to verizon, I hope Sony decides to use SEUS for the r800x, despite unlikeliness.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I think another user posted that Sony's new release/version of PlayStation store needed 2.3.4 (I don't pay attention to the "store" so idk for sure) and if that's truly the case then that's the only reason r800x got 2.3.4 (in all of its broken glory) .. Verizon didn't do it "so they didn't have to give us ICS" because they didn't have to "do" anything anyway, ya know?

Verizon users are more then likely light years away from a ICS release, if we get one at all, some of their Droids aren't scheduled for ICS even and they definitely care more about those then the Xperia Play .....and a few pages back I posted a chat with myself and a Sony Tech who claims SEUS will not receive another update for r800x.... But hey you never know right?

Sent from my R800x using CM9
[Xperia Play General] jacklebott:
"You're still light-years away from facing Brock! (Fights Red and loses) ... Darn! Light-years isn't time! It measures distance."
[Xperia Play General] :
yah that's what i was going to tell him too
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I never lost that battle (and I still don't for that matter ;))... but be sure and let me know when Verizon releases ICS for the r800x......:p

Sent from my R800x using CM9
[Xperia Play General] wasabiboi:
Hey everyone, I just got an notification on my R800x and I am assuming this is the update?

When I try to install it, it downloads, installs, then gives me a Error saying the phone was not updated.

Anyone have this issue?
[Xperia Play General] zachariahpope:
Yeah I had this problem too.. What I did to get it to work was FTF back to 2.32, then let it upgrade to 2.33, and then from 2.33 let it upgrade to 2.34.. that seemed to do the trick. Just make sure you are rooted before you upgrade it to 2.34 ;)
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
The phone should reboot 4 times during the update. It sounds like your OtA just got corrupted during the download.. happened to me before, if you haven't fixed already just re download again and hope no one calls or texts ya..

Why not just flash the 2.3.3 ftf ;)
[Xperia Play General] NeoandGeo:
Has there been any official word on if Verizon is planning on correcting the update and rereleasing it so Google Sync works?
[Xperia Play General] droidjunkie:
Hahahahahaha, yeah right before they release ICS for us. Your best best is to downgrade to 2.3.3, root and freeze the mobilecare app so you won't get notified to update every ten minutes.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
One things is for certain. Since we are not supposed to unlocked our bootloaders and we are not supposed to root our phones and using even flashtool, in Verizons opinion atleast..

If we did not do those things and we upgraded to 2.3.4 and our google sync and gtalk no longer work, thus breaking 2 major parts of an android phone.. Verizon technically owes every single R800x user on Verizon a new phone. . and since they cant prove to you that the replacement r800x will be working correctly why bother with a replacement, but I think most of us like/love our plays... ( I already asked if it was possible that they check for me to see if a replacement would have a working 2.3.4 and was told they couldn't check that so I turned it down)

( Plus ill take my rooted, unlocked bootloader, Cm9 running XPlay over their replacement 2.3.4 any day! )
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Whats bizzare is my google sync seems to work, I don't use gtalk or voice, but I mentioned my other problems with notifications, unless I am actively using the app GroupMe and Race monitor don't send notifications. I think the problem may be worse than just google sync, but a fundamental issue.

Either way I doubt it will be fixed.
[Xperia Play General] droidjunkie:
It's not google sync but with the phone not being able to connect to google servers you won't receive any kind of notifications. It's as if background data and auto sync are turned off
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
But my contacts and calendar are syncing, and its picking up new Gmail. However another thing though I noticed it doesn't do is I used to be able to go to the Play store on a PC and hit install on an app and it would install on my phone within a minute or so, now it does not at all.

If I go to talk it tells me it can't connect. This is bizarre and bad.
[Xperia Play General] netizenmt:
Well, actually, it's a funtion of time and distance, as anyone familiar with sci-fi will tell you. When you travel light-years in distance, a short moment in time will have passed for you, but from your place of origin, years will have passed. For you what was an hour could be the equivalent of centuries back home.

Thus we see that it is a proper use of light-years to suggest that it will be a long time before Verizon gives the R800x ICS, and by then, Android will probably be a long way down its development path.

remium
[Xperia Play General] lightningdude:
That's science fiction, netizenmt. Here in the real world, a light year is simply the distance light travels in a year. The method of going that far and at what speed is irrelevant. Imagine getting that far on a bicycle!
[Xperia Play General] droidjunkie:
I can guarantee your not getting you're gmail notifications right when that message hits your inbox, also the reason you can no longer user the market on your pc to download and install on your phone is because we aren't correctly connected to the google servers.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
You may be right, I don't use gmail primarily so I don't really notice it.

EDIT: The Verizon forums on vzw.com are abuzz with this. I emailed verizon and will post teh response if I get one.
[Xperia Play General] droidjunkie:
they are going to retool you to do a factory reset, make sure your data is turned on and then they will say we need youto send it in so we can diagnose it. When you try to tell them that you have already done that and it's a problem with the software update they will say "we don't do the updates you will have to contact the phone manufacturer as they are the ones who push out the updates". Then when you get them to put you through to sony xperia and say warts going on with you're phone a very stupid indian fella that barely speaks english will tell you to do the same things verizon told you. When you tell them it's not any of your settings, that it's the recent software update they sent out he will say " we don't do the updates you will have to contact your service provider as they are the ones who make and push out the updates, but if you want to send it in to us we will do a factory reset for you and make sure all your settings are correct". Believe me I went through this yesterday and I have decided no one is ever gonna fix this piece of **** phone so now for me it's a media player and I am waiting on the galaxy note to hit verizon whilst in the mean time I am going back to my og droid 1.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Yeah thats not how its going to go with me. I'm a loud mouthed and irritable Italian. I will get to the bottom of this.... Or they will just hang up on me, but either way it won't go the same! lol
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I got money off my bill for 1yr because they messed it up. And why not just use a custom rom, one of pax's builds will surely suit you up nicely!

@Rouge Leader "loud mouthed Italian" haha hell ya man a fellow Italian like myself can appreciate that any day!!
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
SO I GOT AN ANSWER

Spoke to a very nice girl in tech support. Laid out the deal from the start, explained I already reimaged my phone, others have the same problem, etc. She told me that many people have called with the issue. Then she put me on hold for about 3 minutes while she did some research.

When she came back she said the latest word is that its an issue with Google's versions of their framework that they used in the update. I got the impression that the version of 2.3.4 that VZ customers were issued is not the same one that other R800 users got (as in it was custom made by VZ with Sony framework, probably why it doesn't have xLoud). She said that their engineers cannot fix it but they have been in touch with Google to try and find a solution. She could not give me any sort of ETA and apologized for the issue.

Thats prettymuch where I left it as the answer made sense and no reason to argue there. So they know about the issue, they are willing to fix it (if you believe them) but in theory they need Google to fix it. I can't believe no one tested this before releasing it, but then again it is Big Red.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I think KeiranFTW already mentioned that was the problem to! Pretty silly if it really wasn't fully tested, Verizon is slacking, I've always said their more concerned about spellings phones and making money then they are about giving updates. This only furthers proves it and, well, at least their attempting to handle it! Thanks for sharing!

Sent from my R800x
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
As evidenced by the fact that they overload every phone with Verizon services like VZ Navigator when the best navigation is already built in for free, or Verizon Video, Backup assistant, which is free but a better version is not, meanwhile Google itself does everything it does, and better.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I couldn't agree more, who in their right mind would pay for vz navigation with Google maps/nav. And Vz video is way overpriced especially when YouTube is free and ya basically everything they have Google already has built into android its ridiculous that Verizon needs to add that stuff!
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
They also responded to my email with basically the same story. At least they didn't wash their hands of it and tell me to call sony:

What you mean they are actually gonna test it this time?!?!?!
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Well their "working round the clock" he says :rolleyes: , testing hmm nah just send it out :D
[Xperia Play General] droidjunkie:
I'm not holding my breathe for anything
[Xperia Play General] KeiranFTW:
Since when did the clock become the industry standards? :P
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
:D

Sent from my R800x
[Xperia Play General] beez1717:
I assume that the clock they are talking about is not 24/7 but a business week or something else like that.
[Xperia Play General] SenseOffender:
So no ICS and a broken update. So glad I went with Verizon.
[Xperia Play General] wasabiboi:
Yeppppp

Everyday, my phone tries to update itself and returns with an error.
[Xperia Play General] brsingr:
The heck?!?!?! How are you still getting asked to update? Mine stopped weeks ago. Meh, w/e. I don't plan on updating unless the update is stable and safe.
[Xperia Play General] University of Pi:
Mine hasn't but I've flashed it back to stock a few times

try clearing the mobile care cache

that might stop the prompt
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
So I talked over chat to a verizon rep, they offered a replacement phone (no thats useless). Someone FINALLY responded to the issue on the support forums, but basically told the guy to "download the latest update" to which I responded the latest update is the cause of the problem!

Now I'm at the point of just considering cancelling and buying an unlocked PLAY, but the ETF is $350 minus $10 for every month you have used in the contract, so for me I'd have to pay $240 since I'm stuck till next July (signed a 2 year when I got this). That I am NOT paying, so I may just call up and complain and see if we can part ways amicably.

They were good to me in the past but they have continued to suck and suck more (between this and the new scams of a contract and the elimination of unlimited data). If I somehow end up staying, when next July rolls around I am going unlocked phone and anybody but Verizon.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I hope you can come to some kind of resolution with it all. Its pretty tempting to go gsm :)

Sent from my R800x
[Xperia Play General] Enkeixpress:
Great news :)
[Xperia Play General] Snow755:
guss will find out in 24 hrs from now

i think its android 2.3.6 or 2.3.7 but still this is a big upgrade from 2.3.3
[Xperia Play General] Leraeniesh:
Actually, the update is supposed to start rolling out at 23:59 on April 30th, so you'd have to wait till Tuesday
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
It is not going to be ice cream sandwich. The update ota size is 67mb. So I think its going to be at least 2.3.4 and the news from Sony this Tuesday is that PlayStation store will be available Tuesday or Wednesday. And that in order for r800x users to access it they need the firmware updated. Of course we will have to wait. These are just my thoughts.
[Xperia Play General] Snow755:
eeeek why tusday

---------- Post added at 10:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 AM ----------

and i say it will be android 2.3.6 or 2.3.7
[Xperia Play General] paxChristos:
If you edit your first post, you can change the title, so it stops throwing people off :D (And you already know my thoughts on the OTA :D)

Nope, no way, it's only 60ish mbs... anybody remember how big the .88 update was? :D

Pax
[Xperia Play General] Snow755:
this be come some in is 67mb dos not mean it nots android 2.3.6 or android 2.3.7 or even 4.0 will this have too wait and find out

so may be it is andoid 2.3.6 or may be its not will this need too wait and see

---------- Post added at 11:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 AM ----------

by the way has any one noted that 67mb on the software updates is the biges of them all why evere thing else is like 4mb up too 66mb
[Xperia Play General] lightningdude:
If you'll notice, of the devices that are confirmed to be getting ics, they're all over 100mb.
[Xperia Play General] TheCraig:
Agreed, And they don't come with any preloaded games, Unlike the play, so the play would most likely be bigger than all of them.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Its probably not ics .. 2.3.2 was 156mb and 2.3.3 was 162mb

Sent from my R800x
[Xperia Play General] xperia64:
When 2.3.3 was "released" for the r800x back some time in October-Novemberish, I didn't get it until mid December. Looks like I'll have to wait til the beginning of June to get whatever form of android is going to be released....
[Xperia Play General] KeiranFTW:
its probably an update, maybe a 2.3.4 incremental update, and any bets its a "security update" and contains root patches.

Anyway, it won't be ICS, unless they have made a new method of compression.
[Xperia Play General] lightningdude:
I do remember on one of my older Android phones, we got an update to prepare for the next actual upgrade. While I highly doubt that's the case here, there's always the possibility.

On another note, any guesses on how many noobs will rage/whine-post about the ota breaking root? I'm already saying there'll be too many to count.
[Xperia Play General] Leraeniesh:
Thats why I'm happy that we have Pax as a mod :D
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
I for one am not going to ftf back to 2.3.3. I am going to wait and see what it is. And I am pretty sure it will root patches to prevent people from rooting.

Also Pax I changed the title and my first post so that it wont throw people off on the thread.
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
Also for those going to OTA please look up OTA rootkeeper in the google play store to keep root after a ota.

And with that in mind I might ftf and use ota doorkeeper then ota.
[Xperia Play General] Snow755:
hey guys i started a poll whats see oh gets it right

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1626655
[Xperia Play General] :
20 years later: "hey verizon finally released ics for xperia play, wait but i got rid of that play 18 years ago."
[Xperia Play General] KeiranFTW:
OTA Root keeper probably won't work. If you have an unblocked BL (via test point) then you can try it, if not, you are locked, don't update till root status is known, and also, if you unlocked the sony way, don't move until an FTF is posted.
[Xperia Play General] DubleJayJ:
It works. Took out my root, then tested it on a root app. Didn't recognize root at all. Restored root, and then it recognized root.
[Xperia Play General] lightningdude:
He's not talking about the app itself working or not, he means staying through the ota. If the ota doesn't wipe anything, I would think it'd be alright.
[Xperia Play General] Snow755:
will its 7:34am and no updates for the phone yet will have too check later if am not going them now am gusssing i will really have to wait in tell 12am EST time has they are 3hrs a head of us here on the W coast
[Xperia Play General] savage24x:
Unlocked bootloaders CANNOT update OTA. Ever. Don't try it.
[Xperia Play General] KeiranFTW:
They can if you used the test point method
[Xperia Play General] GHRocker08:
I believe that the screenshot said that the update wasn't going to be pushed until 11:59PM EST today (4/30/12). So we still have about another 12.25 hours to go :(