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[General Topics] bsnsxd:
Can you guys help me find a modern replacement of my trusty old redmi note 9 pro?

Honestly if it wasn't for upgrades turning old phones useless, I would just buy another one of these, it has everything I look for in a camera:

solid main camera: 64 MP, f/1.9, 26mm (wide), 1/1.72", 0.8µm, PDAF

solid ultrawide: 8 MP, f/2.2, 119˚ (ultrawide), 1/4.0", 1.12µm

awesome macro with AF: 5 MP, f/2.4, (macro), AF

awesome video options: 4K@30fps, 1080p@30/60/120fps, 720p@960fps

and a dedicated sd slot.. I paid 230 euros for this beast of a phone in 2021, it was launched in 2020, so I feel sketched out about buying another one of these right now, things like important apps not working in an outdated android version, or anything else that might make it so it won't last another 3 years if I buy it...

so I gotta ask, what's today's alternative for this phone? with its value focused on a kick-ass camera with strong macro, slow-mo, 4k, 1080p@120fps?​

doesn't have to be flagship/folding/good display/gaming/nfc/5g/long bat or anything else, just something that will last me another 3-4 years with a solid camera for cheap...
[General Topics] Paulkw:
Help me choose between budget Samsung and older Xperia

I always tended to buy second hand devices and really liked Xperias, my last phone was XA2 which I was able to utilise for long thanks to LineageOS. But since my banking app and NFC payments stopped working, and I don't have inclination anymore to tinker endlessly with safetynet etc., I decided to get a new device.

So first I went looking for something usable for around $100 (I know, pretty low budget, but that's me haha), and since I had bought previously a Samsung A14 for my girlriend and she's happy with it, I went for one too (4G version, new). After using it for a few weeks, I'm quite impressed with One UI over stock Android, and it's good to know there will be updates (I think it's going to get Android 15). What I'm not sure about is the size, I'm used to small phones, but then again having a big screen is nice as well. I don't watch much youtube on phone though. The phone has only 4GB RAM though and does lag sometimes. I'm fairly basic user overall, just need phone for messages and calls, ocassional photos and yt. Also I noticed. for some reason the smart lock (exten unlock) is kind of unreliable, which is annoying. Also sound quality is lacking, even after installing third party equalizer.

So I kept thinking, maybe I should get somehing second-hand with better specs, andI really like small phones, so I went looking on ebay and ended up getting an Xperia 10 III at good price. I like the specs better - OLED, 6GB RAM, feels more snappy, but it runs on Android 13 (I was suprised not to see much customisation from Sony like in older Xperias). Still fairly recent. Weird form factor though, I think it's 21:9, but I like it.

So now I'm stuck with these 2 phones and can't decide which to keep. Which one in the long run will be more reliable and less headache? Any recommendations? (edit: I'm not planning to use them for longer than say 2 years).
[General Topics] Don Kihoty:
Got the Edge 30 Ultra for 430€ - it was a long search, but its a very good choice for that money in Europe/AT.

What about the Moto G84?

Motorola Moto G84 - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

You can get it for 200€, nice SOC, its not a no-name brand - pure Android,

Qualcomm SoC - so there will be a lot custom ROMs.

You can buy the G42 for about 115€ - maybe you should look into that phone:

Motorola Moto G42 - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

And for about 155€ you can get the G72:

Motorola Moto G72 - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

Mostly pure Android, no ads, will serve you well.
[General Topics] warev:
Dog accidently broke my phone so i need a new one asap

I have a limited budget and for around $200 in my country, I could buy a used pixel 6a. For $50 more, I could buy the pixel 6. What should I buy? Buying the 6 will make me unabe to buy a tws earphones. The support for software and security updates for pixel 6 is only up until 2024 while the 6a is up until 2025. Honestly, the 60hz screen is the only thing thats stopping me from getting the 6a. is a 60hz screen really that bad?

Also should I just consider buying from brands like xioami? I just opted with the pixel because of the camera, the looks and its software.
[General Topics] Don Kihoty:
Look for new Motorola phones, like G84 - they are a great value.
[General Topics] Paulkw:
I was considering G53 but still not sure. Lower res. screen than my Xperia, but it has some good things about it too, Android 14, Moto gestures, 120Hz amongst others. I don't know. Really like my Sony. Only downsides of it for me are Android 13 and the screen is a bit narrow making it difficult to type. I just can't decide. :rolleyes: The used Sony cost me almost exactly same amount as new G53 costs.
[General Topics] Don Kihoty:
G53 is a low end phone - G42 is a better choice.

Amoled, FHD, better SoC etc

Compare Motorola Moto G42 vs. Motorola Moto G53 - GSMArena.com

www.gsmarena.com

Xperia 10 III is as good as G42, with more RAM, but an older phone and cost more:

Compare Motorola Moto G42 vs. Sony Xperia 10 III - GSMArena.com

www.gsmarena.com
[General Topics] Paulkw:
Thanks. I got my Xperia in "as new" condition and for same price as the G42. Might just as well keep it then. I note G42 is also on Android 13 like the Xperia. Also no 5G on G42.
[General Topics] Don Kihoty:
Before you buy an used phone, check it with this app:

Narek / Batt · GitLab

A simple app that shows battery status information on Android devices. Requires Android 14.

gitlab.com

See how many charging cycles it has.

500+ and you know the battery is on way down.
[General Topics] Paulkw:
Thanks. Won't work on my phone as it's for Android 14, but am looking for another app to check number of cycles.
[General Topics] Oswald Boelcke:
Any hint how I can obtain physical access to a device that I don't own yet in order to install this certainly great app for the suggested check?
[General Topics] Don Kihoty:
Owner can install it and send you screenshots.

Or use some remote tool like Open Source RustDesk.
[General Topics] henonchschonleinpurp:
Modern day lower midrangers offer the luxury of 6gb ram, faster processors and are an exciting segment to look.

Here are few truly valuable midrangers, suiting our preferences: (premium camera, 4k video rec & microsd support)

Realme 12 plus - mar 24 _ 50p,8w,2m​

Realme, well known for its camera 1st approach and has recently released a bombshell right there.

Samsung F54 5g - July 23_ 64p,2w,8m​

A popular midranger over the past few months that ticks all boxes and even chosen as best midranger by many websites.

Oppo F25 Pro - Feb 24 _32p,2w,8m​

Very high bang for the buck right here and Camera has been a big flex of this phone.

Oppo Reno 11 -jan 24 _50p,8w,32t​

This phone is highly rated for its slowmo video especially and comes with a flagship telephoto lens as well. All this comes at a higher price making it a higher mid Ranger.

The moto G54 and G84 are the other big guns in the category but don't support 4k video and dont have macro lens.

(P - primary lens, W- wide angle, M - Macro, T - telephoto)
[General Topics] Hannibal Smith:
I've found the Moto Edge 30 Neo for about the same price of the g84, what do you think about it?

advice between the g84 and the edge 30 neo?
[General Topics] Don Kihoty:
Compare Motorola Moto G84 vs. Motorola Edge 30 Neo - GSMArena.com

www.gsmarena.com

Its a bit older phone, but still nice.

Bit smaller screen size, smaller battery, less RAM, but a better camera, OTG support, and should get Android 14 too.

If the price is right, lower than G84, and you like the phone, go for it.

If the price is the same, and the camera is not in your focus, then get the G84 because it has an amasing battery life, microSD expansion is very nice too.
[General Topics] bsnsxd:
Thank you so much for the elaborate response, after 5 days of intense research, I wasn't happy enough with the offers at the 300-400 range, not enough to call the shot, so I ended up lowering the budget to avoid disappointment, and got a poco x6 for 277 euros, is alright, I feel like if I had forked out more for a redmi note 12 pro plus or note 13 pro plus, I would feel disappointed...
[General Topics] Hannibal Smith:
199€ for the Moto Edge 30 Neo, and 229€ for the g84. I have to admit that I like the edge because of the dimensions, it's basicaly the same size of my old g6 play; Thanks for the advices!
[General Topics] Don Kihoty:
Then go for it, its a fine phone.

G84 is 200€ only on discounts
[General Topics] henonchschonleinpurp:
Ya.. famous phone man..and it meets all your requirements exc the 4k recording.

Poco X series is one of the few 7 or 8 rom phone seriess out there, with active custom rom development/ maximum developer friendly. Just learnt few things about your phone seriess.. You can check those facts here:

**What phone should I buy next?** -- Not sure what device to buy? Ask here!

Hi everyone, This thread is a continuation of this thread. This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick. Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel...

xdaforums.com

You've made a future proof choice mate, cheers!
[General Topics] bsnsxd:
yea I used to play around with custom roms way back, with a moto g, zenfone 5, galaxy s2 lite, but tbh nowadays phones are so connected to my identity that I don't bother updating myself on it, is it still risky to run custom ROM's?
[General Topics] rbruno66:
Have an S3 running CM10. Debating if Nexus 4 is worth it. I'm already on T-Mobile.
[General Topics] shimp208:
While the Nexus 4 looks great the S3 is still an amazing phone and should handle anythingthing you can think to throw at it. In reality you wouldn't notice any really significant performance increase over the S3, unless your looking for the pure Google nexus developer experience I'd stick with your S3. If you do decide to pick up the Nexus 4, I'd recommended making sure you get it unlocked, rather then saving $100-$150 and being forced into a 2 year cotract with T-mobile.
[General Topics] rossana31:
a iPhone 4S in White or a Samsung Galaxy S3

I am considering a iPhone 4S in White or a Samsung Galaxy S3. I'm not entirely sure yet, I'm gonna compare their battery life.

The battery life is really important to me. My general usage is I'm always gliding through on the Internet, watching videos on YouTube, and playing a few games on my iPhone 4.
[General Topics] rbruno66:
Agree. I would buy directly from Google. From what I'm reading the hardware on the S3 is close if not better than the Nexus 4. I will probably just stay with the S3 especially since I have JB on it via CM.
[General Topics] jjshinobi:
PlayStation Certified Nexus 5 (4.7"-5") mobile device.

2GB RAM.

Quad Core.

miniHDMI out.

Removable battery.

MicroSD slot.

I can live without the microSD but not a removable battery.
[General Topics] sassarolo:
I was thinking to buy a Nexus 4 if it costs 299€

Unfortunately i live in italy... >_>
[General Topics] Feniks46:
I think my next smartphone is Nexus 4!:p
[General Topics] xxxo:
i just think members should not put past phones in signature,getting lot of false results searching on internet,i dont care how many phones they had
[General Topics] celular34:
Sure

Galaxy nexus 4

Thanks
[General Topics] hansov:
Galaxy s3 ;)
[General Topics] dragonslayer8724:
Galaxy S III or Galaxy Note II
[General Topics] Vauvenal7:
I'll wait for a (hopefully coming) android phone with qwerty keyboard (like the one i am using now)

But it seems as if alle the new qwerty phones go to america only -.-

Sent from my HTC Vision
[General Topics] Hayzsky:
galaxy 2 or 3?
[General Topics] shimp208:
For the usage scenario you described I'd go with the Samsung Galaxy S3 it offers around 9:15 hours of continuous video playback, compared to the iPhone 4S which gets around 8:00 hours of continuous playback. If your going back and fourth between a bunch of tasks like video, internet, and games the Galaxy S3's bigger battery will give you an advantage over the iPhone 4S. That being said you could also tweak the Galaxy S3 with ROM's, kernels, etc., as well as buying a third party extended battery to gain even more battery life.
[General Topics] docandy:
I'd go with the galaxy s3 :cool:
[General Topics] in.Dream:
May be nexus 4 or nexus 7 with 3g
[General Topics] ZoidRyan:
The newest nexus in 2 years
[General Topics] ilie321:
hmm htc x one seams to be good or samsung s3 if will be smaller :)
[General Topics] devilhunter47:
Htc One X+
[General Topics] lorenzzzzz:
HTC One X+. :)
[General Topics] henonchschonleinpurp:
Absolutely No mate(because the websites today provide a detailed instruction).. and whatever happens can be reversed.

Hey don't worry.. youll recive 2 years stock updates.. Long time to go man..
[General Topics] bsnsxd:
I don't mean safety regarding bricking the phone, but rather security issues regarding banking apps, identity theft, plain old hacking
[General Topics] Paulkw:
Not true
[General Topics] henonchschonleinpurp:
Mate.. We are slightly going off topic., i was the one who distracted you about flashing and stuff. Apologies. Let's keep the thread refined! Ya.. These topics should be discussed in relevant threads/personal chats.

Anyways, is it safe to install banking apps? There's a special thread for the qn mate:

https://xdaforums.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-install-banking-apps-on-rooted-phones.4566867/

I agree with them, even at the developer level, the issues that could happen is unpredictable. So they conclude/discourage us from installing banking/shopping apps in custom roms. They expect us to be a responsible user, well informed and keeping the banking apps to firmware locked devices/ just to handle it old fashioned debit cards etc.

But at the moment i am having a banking app, installed in my non rooted custom rom. But i am planning to uninstall it in a few months, once the financial transactions/need increase.

Okay. Agree, i answered it quite passively. And it isn't the main topic/focus of this thread ain't it mate!

While flashing any custom roms, we should proceed with caution and follow each and every step in the official website/developer with utmost care. Possibility of bricking/bootloop should never be ruled out and we must always have a plan B - having a twrp backup/ firmware to restore any brick that happens/adb codes to restore factory partition. And plan B is widespread - the are numerous workarounds discussed in xda forums/ other android communities -advised to read more/view more tutorials and become more confident and then flash.

Ofc we might end up in an irreversible/hard brick, if flashed recklessly/ irresponsibly/ incompatible roms are flashed.

- Ive personally bricked/boot looped my op6t as i failed to follow the LOS steps correctly. Reading xda forum of some random device bailed me out.

Hope it's correct now @Paulkw

Anyway @bsnsxd intended to ask about safety of banking apps in custom roms.
[General Topics] Paulkw:
Yeah, what I had in mind though was not so much the risk of bricking your device but things like unlocking the bootloader which on most devices is irreversible
[General Topics] whateverest:
Hi,

I have been out of Android phones world for a couple of years, so I am not familiar with current models and latest Android versions.

Now, I am looking for a phone to be used mainly as road bike navigation and computing device with the following requirements:

1. Big battery, for extended tours. > 10 hours screentime with running app and GPS navigation would be great.

2. OLED screen, for good max brightness in sunlight and also lower power consumption

3. Water resistance, in case of rain.

4. Custom ROM support, to get rid of manufacturers bloatware. I guess lineageOS should do it. Will need and want Google Play store and Google Maps though.

If those four criteria are met, I would choose the cheapest device. Also screen doesn't need to be phablet size, smaller < 6.5" would be preferred.
[General Topics] JonathanPalmer:
Which phone is better to buy in 2024? iPhone or Samsung?
[General Topics] henonchschonleinpurp:
Hey whateverest

Here are the few androids that have tricks above their sleeve, making them last longer than iphone 15+ (15h+). Some considerationsfrom ur message:

- 1st and 5thcriteria are contradictory. - theyrr all naturally big for bigger battery and effective cooling. So most ofphones are 6.7".

-3rd criteria - all of these battery beasts are water proof (ip64+) except Nothingphone 2 (ip54)

-4thcriteria - all these phones are clean. Further want to remove bloatware? There is a powerful app Shizoku which is enough. Custom roms develop 2-4years after release of a new device.

So ivecompared battery and screen brightness :

How they achieve this battery life	Screen brightness
1. Oneplus 12r/12	separate 2nd chip for battery	++++
2. Moto edge 2023	moto = battety	--
3. Samsung s24 ultra/plus	advanced battery optimsation software	++++
4. Nothing phone 2a/2	software msnagemrnt	++
5. Asus ROG 8 pro/7	Dual split batteru	++++

[ -- poorthan iphone 15+ (1200nits),

++similar to it (1700-1800nits)

++++ better than iphone 15+ (2000-4000+ nits)]
[General Topics] Bilal_younas11:
Consider the latest iPhone or Samsung Galaxy for top-notch performance and features. For a budget-friendly option, check out Xiaomi Redmi or Motorola Moto G series.
[General Topics] henonchschonleinpurp:
Hey o1nder

All are recent flagships and their quality is up there

Value.

1. Are you into custom ROMs and update ur phone for 15+yrs? Pixel 7a. Itll get 3+ yrs updates from google as well.

2. You dont want custom ROMs and want 3-4+ years updatefrom company themselves? Iphone 12. It's resale value is higher, if uconsider that.

3. S21 ultra>s22 plus - better display, camera.

I leave it to youto select from these 3. Cheers!
[General Topics] kenlav:
Which country's phones are MOST compatible with USA network bands?

Im going to buy a s20/21 ultra to root (i need secure folder) and samsungs seem like the only option.

I know the answer is none of them or USA works best, but which international phones are MOST compatible with USA network bands? (mainly ATT, and T-Mobile)

thank you.
[General Topics] ze7zez:
In all likelihood: iphone with esim.
[General Topics] stlsht:
Hello everyone!

I will read closely the thread, of course, but still - I need a guide for specific need.

I had two smartphones in my life. No, I'm not 11, I just don't like switching. Smartphones I'm talking about were Mido (Redmi Note 4) and Lavender (Redmi Note 7). You see - I couldn't pick better. Mido was my start for custom ROMs, and Lavender just hyped it far beyond. Both of them were class in community - lot of support, just classics.

So you know - I kinda want to jump into something similar. But what is a classy pick for Xiaomi devices? Or maybe not Xiaomi? Which phone is a succesor of these? I'm talking about $250 max to spend, so just middle class casual phones, with 108mpx camera, 6-8gb RAM and 128gb space woyuld work great, easy to root. I need a new phone for next 20 years! I'm really used to Redmi Note series, but you can try to convince me to something else :>

Thanks in advance!
[General Topics] steve2024:
Theoretically, all phones that comply with international communication standards work in USA.
[General Topics] libelah:
Hi all,

recently my Pixel 3a died (display keeps black, seems to have a crack only visible from low view angle). Changing the display (and battery which had signs of capacity loss about a month ago) seems not to be worth it anymore.

So I am looking for a new android phone. I was very happy with the 3a, so I do not necessarely need more than what it offered. Also I would like to stick to its size as good as possible. I do not like to expense to much money (max about 350€) and I like to keep my devices for at least 5 years. So I am looking for some older generation phone, that still gets updates (custom rom) and will (most likely) still get updates for that time. I guess chances are higher for devices that were quite popular back then and still are.

Do you have any (general or specific) advices? Thanks in advance for any hint!
[General Topics] _benedict_:
Hi,

I am looking for a new device that meets the following criteria, by decreasing importance:

1. excellent and official support from custom ROMs (Lineage preferred)

2. small form factor (I was looking at the Asus Zenfone 10 but it is a bit over my budget)

3. good battery

4. decent performance

Phone should be delivered to Europe, and budget is 500€ max.

Thanks!
[General Topics] QuadGroup:
i am thinking about poco m6 pro 5g or redmi note 11 again(i have two redmi note 11 already in my family).

i like redmi note 11(spes) because good device with good custom rom support , nice display.....

my main priority is custom , i hate miui.

what do you think about moto g34
[General Topics] kapppp:
Hello, I'm looking for a cheap phone, within the price of 200 pln (~$50), i need it to be rootable (my first time rooting), with a decent camera, preferably android 8.0 and 3/4 gb ram. Any help is appreciated.
[General Topics] TopNotch729:
{Mod edit: Quoted spam post has been deleted. Oswald Boelcke, Senior Moderator}

That comment was made in 2012! :ROFLMAO:
[General Topics] jasone36:
Friends,

I have searched far and wide, and the answer is unclear, so asking the experts for your thoughts :)

What is currently the lightest and slimmest Android tablet available, please?

I am looking to replace the Sony Xperia Z4 10 inch Tablet, which is amazingly light (393 grams) and thin (254 x 167 x 6.1 mm)... but is stuck on Android 7.1.1 forever, since it's almost 10 years old now.

Sony has unfortunately abandoned the tablet market, it seems :(

Please chime in with any recommendations for alternatives in the premium Android tablet realm.

Thanks in advance!
[General Topics] whateverest:
Just for the records, I chose the Motorola G84. Its almost stock Android, Qualcomm chipset, pOLED (LG), big 5k mAh batter, for just 200€ a bargain. Only con is limited waterproofness, which I considered acceptable.
[General Topics] jackjarvis:
my next smart phn is iphone 15 pro max.
[General Topics] _benedict_:
Any idea?
[General Topics] AnSnarkista:
I'm looking for a new cellphone too, and I'd like to have more or less this criteria:

1) Budget around 100-150€

2) Good ROM developer support (root and ROMS)

3) Just for working and nothing else special

I came from a Redmi Note 8T, which has been working really well for 4 years... something similar? I found that the same phone, 4 years later is 91€... is there something better and similar nowadays?

Thanks a lot!
[General Topics] NOSS8:
SIGNATURE V CLOUS DE PARIS PHONE A- PURE SILVER ;)
[General Topics] ze7zez:
Thanks, I bought...

...Your joke.
[General Topics] ze7zez:
There is a 21 times more expensive phone for $573,500.

Diamond Snowflake White Gold 18k
[General Topics] NOSS8:
Of course, we can even make it double but it will remain just a jewel, not a mega flagship.
[General Topics] GurgMar:
The Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 is quite slim, measuring 244.5 x 159.5 x 5.7 mm and weighing 420 grams.
[General Topics] Omar_62:
S6 Lite. Mine is thin!
[General Topics] joeyx2:
I bowl in league and like to stream my bowling on facebook. Right now I have an old galaxy S9 that I use to stream. I don't want to use my fold 5 to stream cause I don't want to disturb the stream when I need to use it. The problem is the video quality isn't that great and I want to improve that. What's a good and cheap phone I could buy that has good video quality? Also would need to be used on verizon network just in case of emergency.