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[General Topics] SirVer:
Normally, I'd say no immediately, but I'm guessing you feel bored and want to switch things up a bit? Well, let's take a look:

1. Camera - It'll be worse, but not by TOO much; you will have to fight it sometimes, but it should get the job done. Depends on how much it matters to you.

2. Battery life - can't say without actual use, but looking at specs, it could go either way: better, because the capacity isn't very different, but the display is 1080 vs 1440, or worse, because EMUI is a bit heavy, and the 615 does have some of the same issues as the 810, which *could* affect battery.

3. Processor - the 615 will *probably* be enough to get you by, but may be a nasty shock for someone who's used to a 800/Exynos (whichever it was). This right here is the biggest problem with this transition.

4. Multitasking - I think there's a 3 GB RAM model, but I haven't seen anyone talk about it, so I'm going to assume it's some kind of region exclusive. 2 GB will, again, probably get you by, but you might have got be prepared for a nasty shock. Then again, if you're on Touchwiz, you might not notice a difference, given how badly Samsung handles memory. As someone who recently upgraded from a phone that has 2 to one that has 3, I can honestly say that I would not enjoy going back to 2. Not to mention the doubts as to whether the processor will be up to that level of multitasking in the first place without heating up/throttling.

Frankly, this would be an ill advised move. If you want a change of pace, I'd suggest looking for a 2014 flagship on eBay, if you need to stick to the $200 price point.
[General Topics] vlahmapoutras:
Final

I managed to narrow it down to two phones. Meizu Pro 5 and Motorola Moto X Style.

Both are the versions with 3gb Ram and 32gb.

Pros of Motorola:better screen resolution,better speakers,24 months warranty (vs 12 for Meizu), faster android updates, better service if anything goes wrong

Pros of Meizu: better (faster) processor, fingerprint sensor, 80 euros less expensive.

So any opinions?
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
I wouldnt call better resolution as advantage. Better resolution = more pixels = more heavier to work for processor = more battery it takes = might lead to some heat/warm.
[General Topics] Master Melab:
Are there any new smartphones or tablets that do not have signed bootloaders? These can be made by small time manufacturers. I'm thinking BQ, Elephone, Meizu, or OnePlus.
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Moto X Style for sure. It has better community support. However, if battery life is your concern then the Meizu Pro 5 is the clear winner.
[General Topics] jacobpayag:
Xiaomi Redmi 3
[General Topics] abovenbeyond:
Carrier AT&T... What phone?

Carrier AT&T... What phone should I get?

LG V10, G4, G3

HTC A9

GALAXY S6, NOTE 5

What do you all like in the AT&T line up, even if not listed above?
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Not worth it.
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
meizu pro 5...
[General Topics] rkenjalo1981:
Had the lgg2 since it came out. Almost got the LG v10 but holding out for the g5!
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
I would go for lg v10 or g4. Samsung s6 and note 5 has bloatware so hard to flash custom ROMs also note still has ram issue. Note is overpriced so not worth it . G4 has a decent community support also still great performance plus good camera. Lg v10 too and lg phones has removable batteries and SD card slots if I'm correct while Samsung doesn't. So you can choose for which one you have money lg v10 or g4.
[General Topics] abovenbeyond:
I'm Leaning towards them too... Been a Samsung Fanboy since the S2 and I think I just want something different.

I can get either so I'm thinking the v10.

I'll search now but ask too, so there any custom ROMs out for it yet, bootloader locked?
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
Also I'm not very sure if you could wait 1-2 months a little bit. Lg g5 is very close to release. older lg phones will drop in prices at least by 100 euros so yeah.

Currently noticed that it does not have custom ROMs yet. T-Mobile can be rooted and Verizon phone comes with locked bootloader and yet no solution how to root. So yeah. G4 ATM wins. MWC is close where lg g5 should be released. I would wait for this phone if it looks not very successful go for either lg g4 or v10. Prices will drop on both phones for sure. So its a very bad time buying phone when flagships are getting to be released soon
[General Topics] iamrafy:
LeEco

My next smartphone will be LeTV Le 1s. :) #SuperPhone
[General Topics] Mirothan:
Zuk Z1

Best phone of 2015 for me. Good price, amazing FP , and CmOs.
[General Topics] abcedfghi:
I still have a Samsung Galaxy i9000 which I am trying to update to Marsmallow (I don't have any other smartphone). And while I can updated I won't buy any other...but who knows...

Any one can beat me?
[General Topics] mesologgi:
My nexus 4 is having terrible battery life and my digitizer is partially dead. So i am looking for a new phone but at low cost (130-200 euro max)

I have my eyes on Xiaomi redmi note 2 but recently saw a redmi note 3 with a snapdragon that will be sold in india soon for a cheap price. Should i wait for that?

Feel free to suggest me some cheap phones.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Redmi Note 3 has a locked bootloader, which has a very tedious unlock process, so if you're not willing to go through that, you'll have to depend on Xiaomi for updates, and we all know what that means.

Check out the WileyFox Swift (runs Cyanogen, so flashing future CM builds at least will be easy), Honor 5X, Moto G 3rd gen. Also, you could look for older flagships on eBay, pretty sure you could get some good deals.
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
locked browser? do you mean locked bootloader? lol

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which one
[General Topics] SirVer:
Yes, bootloader; goddamn you autocorrect! [emoji36]
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
Haha. And I think it will not be so easy to unlock it sadly. Would have been a great phone. Why would they go for this? Why android phone makers wants us, xda people, troll? Xiaomi redmi note 3 has so good price to spec ratio... And surely... Something will pop up to restrict a deal... Aren't they supposed to make phones and sell them a lot? What they will win by locking bootloaders?
[General Topics] SirVer:
Actually, they had a good reason for it: apparently, a lot of their phones that were bought from grey market dealers came preloaded with custom ROMs full of malware and spyware. The stupid part is when they decided to make the unlock process so difficult; I mean, I get that they needed to prevent this stuff from happening, but when you're a company that says it has "geek spirit", you have to draw the line somewhere. I would have preferred it if they had just out a real on the box and said that people should buy unsealed ones at their own risk.
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
exactly
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
just saw this announcement from Saygus in case you missed it: "re November tweet, added bonus for supporters (are) : 1. SqGl ear buds. 2. Extra protective cover. 3. Spare battery. 4. 50% off next version." and " Added Specs: Marshmallow, "Washable", Dual SIM, USB Type C. Last two added at July update. Other exciting partnerships TBA."
[General Topics] Ricardo Xavier:
I'm thinking HTC M9 or Huawei Mate 7. OnePlus One will last me for a while though.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Avoid the M9..
[General Topics] Ricardo Xavier:
How come? :o

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[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Lots of issues like overheating and minor bugs , maybe it was fixed with updates but i don't think so. What is your budget ?
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
It seems like people like to bash the m9 and m8 around here. I personally wouldn't avoid it, but by the time you're ready to upgrade from the one plus one there should be better upgrades available.
[General Topics] kyomagi:
coming from an iphone 6s plus. Looking at the note 5 or v10. Which one is best?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Can you read mate ? I said avoid the "M9" , not the "M8" , the one M8 is an outstanding device , and still worth in 2016. But the M9 for me isn't that good , cheers.
[General Topics] Zorachus:
I am leaning towards the One M10 as my device, as long as it's not an Apple looking clone, and has a good sized battery. I wish HTC would make it look like those awesome faked M9 renders from a year ago.

Spec's wise I am sure the M10 will be great, just like all 2016 Android flagships, which will all come with SD820 + 4GB RAM + 6.0.1 Marshmallow. So I am not concerned one bit as far as the hardware it goes, it will be top of the line for first half 2016 phones.

But what about the design and screen technology ? I want the M10 to look like those faked renders from a year ago, and not like the A9, which IMO looks like an iPhone 6 wannabe. And the display ? Doubtful it will be AMOLED, but will it be 5.2" 1440P, or 5" 1080P ?

Camera ? All they need to do is use a Sony cam, even something from Sony last year would be a major step up from the crap in the M8 and M9. I do think HTC will finally put a good camera in the M10, they know all the flack they got, so I am sure the camera will be good, maybe not top of the line great but still really good.

I do like the rumor of a 3,000mAh battery, I hope that pans out true
[General Topics] SirVer:
Depends, really. The Note 5 has superior hardware, and the Note line in general makes very good use of the stylus, excellent for productivity - ideally, that is. In practice, there are issues, mainly due to Samsung screwing up the software, like they do with almost every single phone they release. It's bloated, has only stopped lagging fairly recently, and has RAM management issues that require XDA intervention to fix. The XDA review even says that it fails to do better at memory management than some phones with 2 GB RAM, which is half what the Note 5 has. Plus, aftermarket nodding will probably be quite limited. Because Samsung. Yes, I'm hating on Samsung here, but what I've said here is true, to the best of my knowledge.

Now the V10. I haven't used it beyond fiddling with it in store, but it is responsive, and performs pretty much like every other flagship. The secondary display seems like it would be useful, especially once there are some apps/mods that really take advantage of it. One thing to note, though: it's always on, but it's not an AMOLED. Some reviews I've read have said that in the dark, this becomes really distracting, as the backlight will be on all night, unless you put it face down, which defeats the purpose. I tried to reproduce it in store, but wasn't able to get things dark enough. If it's any consolation, the sales guy assured me that this does not happen when he finally stopped staring and asked me what I was doing. [emoji13]

One more thing: both Touchwiz (Samsung UI) and the LG UI are ugly. For me, LG wins out, but not by much. Sure, both offer some neat UX tweaks that make your life easier, but at the cost of mixing their design ideas with Material Design, which clashes HORRIBLY. I don't notice it much, since I'm used to UX heavy handedness, but it may be jarring for an iOS user that's switching over. On the bright side, Touchwiz has a theming engine with some themes available that eliminate most (but noticeably not all) of the design inconsistencies. LG has one too, but in my limited trials with it, it didn't seem very extensive.

... Looking over this again, I realize that you haven't said anything about your use case or what matters most to you in a phone. Some info in that regard would help; for example, if you were looking for something very close to an iPhone, I'd point you towards Huawei or Honor phones, which have very iOS-like UIs, and metal bodies to boot. If you were looking for the best camera, I'd point you toward this year's Nexuses or the LG G4... And so on and so forth. Basically, some context, please?
[General Topics] Planterz:
That's a toss-up. The Note 5 is clearly the superior device in terms of raw power and performance, and the AMOLED screen is gorgeous. The V10 will perform well enoguh for daily day-to-day stuff, especially with 4GB RAM. Lots of built-in storage at 64gb plus it has the microSD slot, so if you like to load your phone up with a lot of music, it's a great device (especially with the 32 bit DAC). The battery life kinda sucks, but it's replaceable. The Note 5 has amazing battery life, but it's (practically) impossible to replace, and no microSD slot. The CPU/GPU combination is far superior, so if you like to play games like Asphalt 8 or 3D shooters, it's definitely the way to go. Both have amazing cameras. The Note 5 has one of the best available, but the V10 might be the only one that can beat it, if only because of its wide range of shooting modes and options. Of course, for simple, quick shots, both will more than suffice.

It's a hard decision to make, and even harder for anyone else to make other than yourself. You need to figure out what's most important to you.
[General Topics] rovaguy:
looking for a phone by these specs .... cant seem to find much tho

iv been looking for a phone with the a must have for the specs below

dual sim

nfc

otg

mhl, or anything that can cast screen to hdmi

4g, Band3-1800MHz also Band41-2500MHz

fm radio

removable battery

dual or quad core cpu

with samsung removing the removable batteries as well as the fm radios im becoming rather stuck on finding a fone capable of such features.

budget wise i have max 150 sterling

if anyone knows of any such device then do let me know
[General Topics] Op1_2:
Op3 or nexus 6p maybe
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
on touchwizz 4 GB is like 3 or 2 gb of ram. Note is a great phone but touchwizz doesn't make it so good looking at specs.
[General Topics] Planterz:
LG's UI really isn't any lighter than TouchWiz.
[General Topics] dunker56:
Where are all the small/light/compact smartphones gone?

For the past few years I have been focusing on camera phones, Nokia 808, S4 Zoom and now my current 200g K Zoom. I'm looking for something that's really about half the weight/size but performing around the same (obviously not camera wise). Honestly... when googling 'small phones' 'light compact phones 2015' or whatever I'm just getting article after article of these phones that still seem pretty massive imo. Quoting weight around the 130g like it's a big thing?!

My first smartphone was the Galaxy S2, 4.3 inch screen, 119g. 2011.

Honestly thinking picking one of these up again is the best deal lol...

I'm reaching out for more knowledgable peeps, for someone looking for small and lightweight compact smartphone, what are the choices? It appears I need to look in obscure corners for such a thing.

Cheers,

Dunker
[General Topics] SirVer:
It varies across devices, but in general, yes, they're both pretty heavy. Difference is, LG does memory management far better than Samsung; far less reloads.
[General Topics] Planterz:
If you want the latest specs in a small phone, you're pretty much limited to the Sony Xperia Z5 Compact. I would argue however, that the Z3 Compact is a better choice, since it'll be significantly less expensive, have better battery life, and the SD801 is more than enough to power the 720p screen, where the 810 in the Z5c is overkill. Sony phones have dedicated 2-stage camera buttons, so they're still very camera-centric. Apart from the Sony Compacts, there's precious little choice in a decent phone under 5".
[General Topics] SirVer:
Seconded. 130g really is light, considering the sheer amount of tech that goes into one of these devices, especially when they have metal and glass bodies. If weight is really that important, your only options are those Chinese devices that sacrifice whatever necessary to get their phone thinner and lighter; however, their almost all 5 inches and above. Besides, if you're used to a 120g phone, 10g spread over a slightly bigger frame (because I suspect density is what really matters here) is not something you'd notice for more than a week or two, if at all.

As an aside, why do you want it light? Not being antagonistic, just curious, as most people I know actually like a little heft to their phones; makes it less likely for them to drop it, though of course heavier (denser) devices take more damage than lighter ones if they do... Is that why?
[General Topics] dunker56:
Yeh i saw the Z3, but its not around to have a look first hand in shops anymore, be nice to have a go with one before deciding.

Basically up until now I have been ferrying around bricks for a few years (and i'm sick of it), but my photography has got to a place whereby I'm happy to actually take a dedicated camera with me, I'm just looking to reduce the weight and baggage of items with me.

I just thought that perhaps since 2011 there might be a few 100g phones around, but I guess with new tech comes new bulk and weight and more battery to power them. The trend in the tech market right now seems to be power at the expense of size, but even saying that they don't even seem to do 4.3 or 4 inch screens anymore... Surely that's still an applicable market?

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What's the S4 Mini like? Coming from the K Zoom processing power is it significantly worse? Price wise it's pretty attractive.

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I bought my son a Google Nexus 4 for his xmas, it's 139g or so, to me it's still way too bulky for what I'm after, I mean the K Zoom is only 70g more, it's actually not that big a difference (credit to the K Zoom!). No... what I am after is a significant reduction in weight and size, going down to 100g or so.

I am not a heavy smartphone user, tho I do recognise I still need one from time to time.

I am just a bit worried about processing power and what not. I recall owning the Nexus 7 2012 tablet and the Android System updates ruined that tablet, became unusable. I'm not saying I need the latest and best version of Android, just I hope that it can keep up for a couple of years.
[General Topics] Planterz:
If the market exists, the manufacturers are barely responding. The trend of the last few years is bigger and bigger screens. What was considered "huge" a few years ago is now "mid-sized", and what was mid-sized is now considered small. And phones like the iPhone 5/5s/5c are considered tiny. I fully understand this trend, because when the smartphone revolution began, they were merely phones with email, web, and some basic games. Now, they're pocket computers with hardware that rival laptops from a few years ago, and the larger the screen, the more functional they are. Certainly, there's a market for small smartphones (Apple is coming out with a new 4" iPhone), for those who want something that isn't cheap and doesn't suck, but it's becoming a growing (or dwindling? Not sure how to phrase this) minority.

If high-speed performance isn't an issue, but weight is, check out the BLU Vivo Air LTE. It's a 5" screen, but it's razor thin and weighs under 100g.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Might wanna check out the OPX as well I have one it's a killer little phone. Decent camera dual sim and ex sd card. Amoled screen I love it very good device for $250 US brand new shipped

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[General Topics] Planterz:
The baffling and unforgiving lack of band 17 (AT&T) and band 12 (T-Mobile) prevents me from recommending this phone to most people in the USA.
[General Topics] s8freak:
I'm ATT I have no problem in my area

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[General Topics] abcedfghi:
My Samsung Galaxy S i9000, of course! :D
[General Topics] SirVer:
Unless you're getting the Snapdragon 410 version (and maybe even then), there will be a significant performance difference. Now, you may not notice that difference, depending on your usage, but it's there. Also, how much is the S4 mini available for? Unless it's a very good discount, I doubt you're getting much bang for your buck.
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Maybe the Blu Vivo Air: http://amzn.com/B00S5C3BFG is what you're looking for? It weighs 97 grams, and has processing power that somewhat rivals the K Zoom. The Mediatek MT6592 in the Vivo Air has superior CPU performance over the Exynos 5260 that's found in the K Zoom. However, in regards to GPU performance (Mali-T624 vs Mali-450 (MP4) ) it's a good bit weaker. There's also a LTE model of the Vivo Air called the Vivo Air LTE, but the phone only comes with a Snapdragon 410. This makes it much weaker than either the Vivo Air or K Zoom.

Benchmarks:

CPU Comparison: K Zoom: 1900-2000, Vivo Air: 2300-2400, Vivo Air LTE: 1400-1500 (Geekbench 3 Multi Core)

GPU Comparison: http://goo.gl/g7GFi3 Mali-T624 >> Mali-450 MP4 >>> Adreno 306

The only other phones that are as close to 100 grams as possible (that I can think of anyway) are the Alcatel One Touch Idol 3 (4.7 in), and the Apple iPhone 5s which weigh 110 grams, and 112 grams respectively. If I was in your position and had to pick from this lot, I'd probably choose the iPhone 5s as it has the best performance to weight ratio (sounds like we talking about cars now lol). Personally, I'd probably go with a phone that weighs around 130-140 grams, like the Z3/Z5 compact, OnePlus X, S6, and etc because they are plenty of options to chose from.
[General Topics] Planterz:
AT&T uses band 4 in some (not all) areas, as well as band 2. But their main, and best band is 17, which is 700MHz, so it travels farther and penetrates buildings better than the much higher frequency bands 4 and 2. And as I said not all areas have bands 4 and 2, which'll drop you to HSPA+.

Out of curiosity, do you notice a weaker/spottier/slower signal with your OPX than your other devices?

As for not having band 12, this is slightly more forgivable, as it's still being rolled out, and some areas won't even get it. For example, here we should get it in the next couple years, but Chicago might never get it (not for a long time anyway) because of a UHF TV channel that uses the frequency. So for many people, not having band 12 might not be a concern.

The lack of either is, as I said, baffling, especially band 17. The OnePlus One has band 17. The OnePlus 2 has both 12 and 17. Why not the OnePlus X? Are they trying to reduce their sales? I personally won't be buying a new phone that doesn't have band 12. And I'm sure there's plenty of AT&T/Cricket/StraightTalk customers that would buy the OnePlus X if only it had band 17. Shame, because it's a really spiffy phone, especially your black ceramic one. Maybe those bands are there, just merely dormant. I know the international OnePlus Ones that don't have North American bands actually do and can be enabled with some hacking.
[General Topics] drdante:
LG G4! If in UK, Vodafone is doing a payg for 225 quid! and at that price, its a steal :good:
[General Topics] s8freak:
I don't have any drop off of service with my OPX in my area.

Lack of certain bands is baffling for sure.

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