yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Incorrect. A donation is a donation. Not a payment. You don't donate to Red Cross for the sake of getting a deductible on your tax forms, do you?

No, it's not "things come up". He's not on a schedule. He's not on payroll. This is not a fulltime job for him (something which I'm slowly starting suspect you don't have).

Well ****. We've been left wondering about volunteer work that never came with any guarantees. Somebody must tell the king!

Is such any of our business? Do we have any right to know? Should we really be offering to help him when we don't know what's going on.

Who is "we"? Surely not you, with your 22 posts consisting entirely of you asking for help with the Sensation, whining about WiMax and how you're waiting for it, or talking about how poor the developer support is for the 3D? "We" don't work together. The devs work together with anyone who is willing to help them, not whine like an incessant five year-old.

Whether you realize it or not--actually, screw it, it's very clear you don't realize it at all, the dev's intentions are purely unrelated to anything.

Bold demands to make from someone who spends all his time whining and asking for things to be handed to him on a silver platter. The issue here is that you are utterly delusional as to what this place is.

This is not an Ubuntu development forum. There is no funding, no deadlines, nothing. This is the most informal type of development that exists out there; the type that people do just for fun and are nice enough to share with the rest of us. Seriously, what the **** do you think devs get out of this?

....what?? Because the CM team made it so publicly clear that they were ditching CM7 for our phone? Because the CM team of course has started the nightlies for the Shooter? Sarcasm, by the way. I love CM, but as I said, they haven't been keeping us in the loop either, and you know what? That's perfectly fine, they never promised to. They are just human beings like the rest of us.

Excuse me? Quality of code goes up because devs state they aren't working on it anymore? Are you even thinking clearly? How does that happen?

Except the developers that get harrassed and called out and insulted by idiots like you. You know, those developers who just happen to be providing every little thing that we flash on this forum.

No, everyone says that XDA has gone to **** because pathetic little whining douchebags such as yourself feel entitled to the world and more because you followed instructions on how to root your stock ROM and now think you are god.

Compile CM for us. Put it up as a ROM. And promise you, I will hold you to it. I will not accept excuses, I will demand updates. I will demand communication. I will demand support. And when you slip up on any of those, I promise you, I will flame the **** out of your threads and denounce you as a developer.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
No, XDA has gone to **** because pathetic little whining douchebags such as yourself feel entitled to the world and more because you followed instructions on how to root your stock ROM and now think you are god.

Compile CM for us. Put it up as a ROM. And promise you, I will hold you to it. I will not accept excuses, I will demand updates. I will demand communication. I will demand support. And when you slip up on any of those, I promise you, I will flame the **** out of your threads and denounce you as a developer.[/QUOTE]

Amen to this!
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Then it's their own damn fault for thinking they were paying for anything.

And I just don't understand why you think it's any of your business where they go. Oh wait, you think a donation is a payment.

Well--

......BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH. You, sir, are the saddest, most pathetic, and hypocritical self-entitled scumbag I have EVER seen on XDA. I wish I could give you an award...

Want to share the names of people who are "upset"? Or are you just pulling "facts" out of your ass again? Let's break this down, shall we?

Devs: Give users brand new software full of tweaks and sometimes next generation versions that will never be officially supported and sometimes require coding drivers from scratch and all is done for free.

You: Whine and ***** and donate thinking you're paying for support or features and then when you don't get it you act as though you were owed anything in the first place.

Now then, which of those two parties do you think we're more inclined to feel defensive about?

No, you ****ing did not. You don't even know the user who kindly donated to Newt the Evo 3D which he's been using to develop. Then again, there appears to be a lot of things you don't know...
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
LiquidSolstice/others, you're done with this now . Thanks :)
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Gladly. Apologies to Newt and others for that.
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Duce he may have you on multi quote winning sir... Just an observation 0_0 ;)

DX Terrible Lie
[HTC EVO 3D] RandoTheKing:
All I saw was him Q_Qing
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
The word customer and XDA are never to be used in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

You seem to have this mindset where donations = obligations.

The fact is no one forced the users to donate. Newt would still be deving for us with/without the donations.

Again, you keep bringing up "he was handed a phone, therefore he must dev.." line.

And I'll say it again, YOU DID NOT DONATE THE PHONE TO NEWT. And yet again, that was a DONATION. You should crack open a dictionary and look up donation.

And you seem to say a lot of "we's" and "community." The sad truth is, it's the devs and then there's everybody else. There are ways in which we can help devs, and contribute, but that's only minute.

And Newt did not just up and leave. His home was/is TheMikMik. All he did was go back "home."
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
Will this work Virgin Mobile's Evo V?

Sent from my HTCEVOV4G
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
Thought that would be a Cal Ripken like record and never broken! Well done...
[HTC EVO 3D] ssojyeti2:
Actually, once Scrosler had a multi-quote post that was twice as long as that one...
[HTC EVO 3D] RoboDroid13:
Is there a what works/doesn't work list with this rom, sorry if I missed it somewhere in the op.

Beautiful rom btw.
[HTC EVO 3D] flare93:
It's basically in the RLS to do list so just WiMAX and 3d camera everything else is pretty much there with the ocasional bug here and there that can be fixed with a reboot usually
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
From my experience, just 4g and 3d don't work for obvious reasons. It is the best stock sense 4 room I have tried.
[HTC EVO 3D] tomzefi:
I am coming from the EVO 4g. Jmztaylor who ports cm9 for.the EVO 4g needed a device cause he didn't have one so I donated mine to him and bought an EVO 3d off xda and I will tell you what, I was going to buy the 4g LTE and with this phone and this Rom, I am holding off for a long while. I must say this is a bad ass phone, and Rom. Especially coming of the EVO 4g .
[HTC EVO 3D] tommy24:
I jumped to the lte, you think the 3D is bad ass, boy oh boy are you wrong. Wimax can suck it, I'll wait on 3g and wifi for the lte. I compared this to my bothers' 3d and thunderbolt and those things are like bricks compared to the lte. Everything on this thing is great, especially the kickstand!
[HTC EVO 3D] Astrikz:
Then why are you still doing in the 3d forum..... scoot.. scoot...

hah..
[HTC EVO 3D] tomzefi:
Your reading to deep. The EVO 3d has satisfied my hunger. Not saying I chose one over the other. Trying to save a few bucks. I don't have an upgrade. Get it?
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
As I have stated to others coming off with the same thing......congrats on your new phone. Hope you enjoy it but please move on because we do not care to hear your brags. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] tgearman:
If a kickstand gets you that excited, I've got something in my pocket to show you...

:eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] SinisterChedda:
I have a kickstand on my Evo 3D so I'm sticking with this phone even though I get a upgrade every year(June) cause I'm on friends and family employee plan. No 4G LTE for my area for at least a year or 2.
[HTC EVO 3D] evo3djay:
It's a bunny!!! Weeee....lol
[HTC EVO 3D] edgeez25:
No disrespect to anybody but this thread is dead because every other post is meaningless and has nothing to do with the development of this Rom...its either complaning or I got a new toy.... I can see why Newt wouldnt want to waste his time furthering anything here.. and in my opinion why some of our devs spend more time elsewhere..
[HTC EVO 3D] tgearman:
^^ Now there's a high-value, content rich post.

Really. Just ask him.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Indeed, your post certainly broke the status quo and added deep, rich, and thoughtful commentary pertaining to the ROM.
[HTC EVO 3D] RoboDroid13:
Imao you guys.
[HTC EVO 3D] edgeez25:
LoL... Very true indeed...If u can't Beat em Join em... I say make this the chit chat thread cause that's all that everybody is doing here (myself included :D)... BTW I actually enjoy your commentary Sir...

Edit...my post was supposed to say no disrespect to anybody backing up our devs .. it was more towards the guy who I assume paid Newt to get 4g on the Rom(he was very upset hope he kept his receipt), the guy with the Sweet Kickstand and so on....
[HTC EVO 3D] tomzefi:
Dam. Just hopped on board. Has development stopped?
[HTC EVO 3D] jtwombly:
Wow this thread really went down hill quick like.
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
This Rom works great on the new VM HTC EVO V 4G.

Sent from my HTC EVO V 4G
[HTC EVO 3D] tgearman:
Edge - no disrespect. We're all just treading water until something drops. I've run out of useful things to say, but this thread would sink if not for the banter. Carry on.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Gotta, this thread is quiet because apparently newt is sticking to the thread on themikmik. He just posted there that now that he is done with rezound he will be starting with 3d tonight.
[HTC EVO 3D] tomzefi:
We can always follow on mikmik
[HTC EVO 3D] edgeez25:
None taken brotha... I know exactly what u mean sucks that everything seemed to slow down... Not to long ago I was flashing multiple roms a day LOL and now only a couple here and there... But honestly don't blame any of the devs they do so much for such a little reward... On top of that people demanding features and xtras... Too much...
[HTC EVO 3D] dkdude36:
i've become impressed with liquidsolace's eloquent wording and well-constructed counterarguments, even against someone who obviously never learned how to convince a cat to eat meowmix (not hard to do). i'm convinced liquid is either a lawyer, or spent upwards of half an hour preparing his responses.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Does this support VM(virgin mobile) MMS?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Seriously, I like that guy. Even though I'm sure he's convinced I'm a retard from reading my posts...

Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
[HTC EVO 3D] aamikam:
i know im like really late for it... but i must say it.

LiquidSolstice... u r my new most favorite person on xda... everything u said was dead on man.

a lil rude for my taste... but this is exactly how things r... thank u for saying what u said.
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
Can't get MMS or 3D to work on my phone. SMS works fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] evo3djay:
Lmao
[HTC EVO 3D] raptoro07:
You're going to have to change the mms server settings as this is for sprint. Don't really know how though, epst maybe?
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
How do I change that setting? Willing to try anything to make it work. This is what mine says. But can't edit it.

Sent from my HTC EVO V 4G
[HTC EVO 3D] tomzefi:
He is putting out an update soon. So hang tight maybe it will be fixed. He is active on the mikmik forums, btw.....
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Yes its exactly what I was ganna ask if you be so kind to link the mikmik forum he's on I would like to ask him if he can ungray that setting part
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
If someone could tell me what file handles the SMS application or the MMS application, I could pull the settings from a stock rom and try to import them in to this one and try to see if it will let you send a MMS. It's definitely the wrong server it's trying to send it through.
[HTC EVO 3D] MikeC84:
Here you are
[HTC EVO 3D] tomzefi:
http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1498-Newt-One-S

You have to become a member .......so sign up bubba.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Place has a lot of places where exactly would my MMS request or question go?
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
I went ahead and posted the question under HTC Evo 3D general development. Hopefully I will get a reply. I'd really like to fix this issue.
[HTC EVO 3D] evo3djay:
That's the wrong place to put your question. But I know the mod will move it and let you know. I asked the same question over there.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
By chance do you guys know the address that is suppose to go there for virgin usa?
[HTC EVO 3D] tomzefi:
You guys have to under EVO 3d - EVO 3d Rom development - newts - one s - then one s q/a. You have to be able to find it now. And as I said he is putting out an update. While your there read up on as much as you can because lot of things have been addressed ...
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
NAME – Virgin_MMS

HOMEPAGE – http://mms.virginmobile.co.za

DATA ACCOUNT - Virgin_MMS

CONNECTION TYPE – HTTP

PROXY ADDRESS – 196.031.116.242

PROXY PORT – 8080

USERNAME – LEAVE BLANK

PASSWORD – LEAVE BLANK

Found this too:

Generic MMS Settings

APN: VirginMMS

Server Name: VirginMMS

Gateway: 202.139.83.152

Port: 8070 or 9201

Server address/ MMSC: http://mms.virginvibe.com.au:8002/

Generic WAP settings

Settings Name: Virgin WAP

Homepage: http://www.virginvibe.com.au/wap

Data Bearer: GPRS

Access Point Name (APN): VirginWAP

IP Address: 202.139.083.152

Proxy Port Number: 8070 or 9201

Authentication Type: Normal

User Name: Leave blank

Password: Leave blank

Generic Internet Settings

Settings Name: VirginInternet

Homepage: http://www.virginvibe.com.au/wap

Data Bearer: GPRS

Access Point Name (APN): VirginInternet

Authentication Type: Normal

User Name: Leave blank

Password: Leave blank
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Thanx I guess we might have to wait on that update maybe he already knows about it and unlocks it
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
Ok I went back to a stock rom and looked at the MMS settings versus the one on this rom. Here's what this one needs.

Name

SPG

MMSC

http://mmsc.vmobl.com:8088/mms?

MMS proxy

(not set)

MMS port

(not set)

MMS protocol

WAP 2.0

I think we need to just change the MMSC, proxy and port value and we are set for MMS to work!
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
thing is we need to know how to change it im asking around at mik mik doesnt seem like anyone knows anything, just hoping newt does
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
I'm going through the entire rom, file by file, looking for those settings. Thing is I have no clue where it is.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Well change the message.apk the apk to zip and look in that unless you're already doing that
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
Yes in framework-res.apk in xml folder under apn.xml
[HTC EVO 3D] raptoro07:
got to ##DATA#, enter edit, enter MSL, go to advanced, scroll to bottom, click on MMS server, enter VM settings. click menu, commit changes, reboot. Enjoy

That is if EPST works for Newt's port. I'm not on it currently, but thought I remebered it working on RC3.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Yeah but you see that's not there I'm not sure if its a Rom thing or a phone thing the only way is through app
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
There is no MMS Server settings in the Advanced menu. I did find the file to edit in the framework. It's apns.xml. I can edit it but can't recompile it. I'm getting errors usin ICS APKtool gui editor.
[HTC EVO 3D] jmz:
No but if you go through the menus you will find it. I believe its something like msn settings or something.
[HTC EVO 3D] jmz:
Those are all completely wrong for virgin US

Where did you get those?
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
If you bring up the message app, click the menu button and then settings, then click mms settings, then click connection settings. That's where this came from. I decompiled the framework-res.apk and changed the apns.xml file to the right settings but I'm getting errors when re-compiling the rom. Still working on it. Will let you know if it works in a bit.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
alright good luck dude hope u get it
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
I'll do it later if you don't get it. I'm on cricket and even with me changing the xml I still couldn't get mms to work maybe you'll have better luck
[HTC EVO 3D] Siya Nová:
Download any cut make it to the apn settings
[HTC EVO 3D] jmz:
What you see in the mms settings in the app is possibly reading from ##data#. I would check settings there too. Dunno them off the top of my head but google for virgin mobile USA apn settings
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
I have all the settings. You can't change any of the MMS settings in the rom. i extracted the framework-res.apk, edited the apns.xml file to match that of a known working MMS rom and recompiled it. added it back to the zip file, flashed it and it gets stuck at the HTC quietly brilliant screen. Here's a link to my framework-res.apk that I made. Can someone look at and see what I did wrong, if anything?

https://www.box.com/s/4b5b68eb11b9f71107c5
[HTC EVO 3D] jmz:
What you are failing to understand is what I'm talking about is part of the phone and not the Rom. I have an sprint evo 3d on vm so I know exactly what you are talking about. The other half you are forgetting is that vm requires a special cdmasmsdispatcher.smali file replaced in framework. Where you are looking is one place of about 3. Did you see if there was an apns-conf.xml in /system/etc? That file overwrites the framework-res one. That's why you don't see pure stock branded roms with that file in it.
[HTC EVO 3D] newdad23:
OK, i saw the apns-conf.xml and found this inside it:

<apn carrier="Virgin Mobile US" mcc="200" mnc="053" apn="0" port="" mmsproxy="205.239.233.136" mmsport="81" mmsc="http://mmsc.vmobl.com:8088/mms?" type="mms" />

didn't find the smali file. I guess I really don't know what I'm doing and had better stop. Thanks guys for trying. Sorry i couldn't help.
[HTC EVO 3D] jmz:
The smali file is for recieving. If not all incoming mms will be from number 999-999-9999 and all gibberish
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
Ok pull the apn.xml from the new one you apk you did and drop it in the old apk if ya used winrar make sure you choose store
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
Where did you find apns-conf.xml
[HTC EVO 3D] Androidious:
It's located in /etc/ and /system/etc/.

Within the root dir of the sys partition
[HTC EVO 3D] jmz:
That won't work as xmls are compiled. It will most likely cause a bootloop
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
No it won't as long as it recompiled first I've already done it
[HTC EVO 3D] jmz:
Oh. I thought you were saying just open the apk and drop in without decompiling and recompiling
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
here ithe Virgin Mobile apn inbeded into the framwork make sure you wipe caches b4 and after flashing in recovery. let me know if it worked sorry it took me so long busy day

http://d-h.st/B3m
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Hey so what exactly is this? Is this the msg app virgin mobile ready?
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
No its the apn for virgin mobile
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
Ok so I flashed it and I did a clean install on Rom booted Rom went back wiped cache and flashed you zip it changed it to where there isn't any writing period but it did take off the sprint but still can't send
[HTC EVO 3D] Newt:
Ok I've been away for a bit working on a Rom for my own device.... Haven't really checked here much because of all the kid stuff in the thread, but I just read a few page's and idk what happened and who got their information, but I was not paid to put 4G on this Rom for this device... I offered to get sense 4 stable and food enough for a daily driver if someone was willing to donate a device... I spent 2 solid weeks of my own personal time to do just that... The devs that had tried to do the same thing had given up so I stepped up and sis it like I said I would... Now I started a update for this phone today but after reading this crap idk if its even worth my time... Yea I took my time getting back to it but I left the rezound hanging just like I did this Rom... I don't like to release half ass work so it takes time... I don't work for anyone here nor do I owe anyone here anything... I just don't understand how people can complain about something that is free... Anyways ive said what I want to say those of you that appreciate what I did thank you!
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Newt, do it like Chad. Say "screw it" to xda and stick to your home site. It's much more peaceful and patient over there, you know that.
[HTC EVO 3D] Threevo:
We're sorry for the childish acting of some of the pre-pubescent kids In here ( Atleast that's how they act ) anyways its perfectly understandable why you would want to stop development for this device , and if you so choose so than I'm supportive ; Since I hate Dev bashing .

But if you decide to stay then me and a whole bunch of others who wait patiantly will be very happy . NewtoRoot , you're an amazing developer regardless of the actions you decide , you have contributed to our device and o thank.you for that .

With great respect

-Threevo
[HTC EVO 3D] vestaviajag:
+1
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Please, I really, really would like to apologize on behalf of the rest of XDA, the mature ones, for the fact that the freeloading idiots wrecked it for us.

Many of us truly do respect the work you do, please don't think it will have been in vain. Just do what you love doing, your respectful users will take care of the idiots for you.
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Newt you've done a phenomenal job with this. You were 1st with Sense 4. That's a damn fine achievement IMO. Ignore the adolescents and keep doing what you do.

DX Terrible Lie alpha
[HTC EVO 3D] leonardusbayu:
Newt, I really appreciate u and your work. I feel mad to the big mouthed members who think they are able to be the boss of a free given thing. Maybe I am no dev or someone who can cast magic to the device, I am just a teacher, but I've been in your position and that's s**ks. Hope that the mod can justify this. :mad:

Anyone who feel disturbed by the long update please make your own ROM. Pushing another people to do an unpaid job is rude:mad:

Mod, if you feel that my post is inappropriate, just delete it:)
[HTC EVO 3D] METHOD1911:
I've been on xda for years and I can't stand when a few knuckle heads mess it up for everyone.

Method1911 3DLTE
[HTC EVO 3D] jtheis23:
Guess I should have tested it first...lol. I won't be able again till later. You try taking an epst.apk from another sense 4 Rom then go to dialer and dial ##3282# then go to advanced and change the settings from there. If you get another epst.apk and switch it make sure you delete the odex file to and set permissions rw-r-r then reboot and try
[HTC EVO 3D] ahernandez4110:
Thank You Newt, for Your Hard Work and time for this Rom. I love this ROM I installed it on my EVO 3d and love the way it feels. I have my EVO 3d on metropcs with everything working accept the mms. I was able to over right the sprint settings with metropcs settings on mms settings and APN. I will donate what ever to get my mms to work. Cheers to you.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
As much as I would like that im sure ill mess up I can wait for you again
[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
Noot, you're bhavor iz uneckseptable. Mi wunts rum noow. I iz not wait no mo.

-idiots
[HTC EVO 3D] ewells38:
+1, I've also been on XDA for quite some time, and it's really unfortunate when

some f**k it up for everybody else instead of just being appreciative like the rest of us :mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] VictoriousShooter:
Please tell me that you're misspelling everything on purpose ...
[HTC EVO 3D] Johnny424:
This Rom runs very well on my EVO v on vm. Thank you OP

Sent from my EVO V 4G using Sense 4
[HTC EVO 3D] kenosuke117:
ony thing is MMS right