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[Desire HD General] lamenramen:
Without a doubt the S4 versions, purely b/c of battery life.

I am finding that the quad core's battery life is abysmal. I rarely make it through the day, unless I'm turning down the brightness all the way, and juggling turning off gps, wifi, data, etc whenever I don't need it. It's no way to live.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
I was at nfm today and saw the new tf 300 and tried it out. All I can say is I don't like it. Back plate is rough on the hands and GPS still does not work. Let GPS status go for 3 mins and nothing. Glad I an sticking with my prime
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bsweetness:
First, I'm glad you're happy with your Prime. It's a great device. Enjoy it.

That said, according to all of the reviews and pretty much anyone who owns one, the GPS reception on the 300 is fantastic, especially compared to the Prime. It's rather difficult to truly judge the GPS capabilities of a device just from the quick, informal test you ran on a display unit inside a store. That's about as far from conclusive evidence of its GPS capabilities as claiming the same without ever having even touched one.

As for the feel of the device, that's all personal preference. I don't find the slightly raised ridges to be rough on the hands in the slightest. In fact, it's quite comfortable and helps with grip tremendously. Actually, I can't imagine someone describing the back as rough. It's not even close to fitting the definition of that word. Additionally, the more rounded edges of the 300 definitely make holding the device for extended periods much more comfortable for me than holding the Prime. The Prime always felt like it was cutting into my hand after awhile. I don't get that at all with the 300.

The Prime is a fantastic device, and there are several things it has over the 300 (display, weight, thinness, etc). But the 300 definitely has a leg up over the Prime on GPS (and WiFi as well for many), and the feel of the device in hand all comes down to personal preference.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] andyxover:
I completely agree with you. It's very misleading when people open a new thread to give opinion on the device without properly testing it. Did OP test the GPS on other devices in the store, I highly doubt any other device will be able to lock on a satellite in an indoor environment, including the dedicated Garmin devices. The feel of the device is definitely a more personal choice, some people prefer the extra thickness and grip the plastic cover provides. The GPS/Wifi has been excellent on mine, not that it was horrible on the prime, but with plastic cover the signal simply travels through better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
I never just open threads without reason. I tested it with a galaxy tab, Sony s and the new Toshiba tablet. Forget what its called. Very nice by the way. But yeah they all has gps within 1 min. The tf300 never found 1 sat. That is all I am saying on this thread

I am in no way saying it is a bad device
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ill1:
I agree with this and your original post. I'll go down to NFM to take look myself, but I already know if its thicker, heavier, and the screen isn't as good you can keep it. If I need GPS I'll use my phone or gps tether. No way on earth I'm sticking that dongle thing on my prime, but then again the dongle was free so you get what you pay for. I got the prime partially because of the looks, feel, weight, and screen. Whatever tablet I get next will have to be better in all areas than the prime, I'll wait till I see the 300 but I doubt it's better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
In 95% of cases, the Prime is the much better device. For people that dont use GPS its like 98% of cases :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Also Tf300 screen is made of harden glass compared to the TF201 Gorilla Glass. I take my Prime with me everywhere I go. It's nice to see the screen in complete daylight with intense glare. If I can recall Primes have 600 nits compared to 350 nits on Tf300. The whole ergonomics deal with Tf300 is nice but my Moko slim case feels nice too and it even protects my investment. My wifi rocks just as good as my Galaxy tab 10.1 My TF201 internal GPS is weaker but can hold a lock while driving. Or just connect my dongle if need be. Love my Prime. To each his own right:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Admiral2145:
Flawless gps... In side and outside.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bsweetness:
Again, completely personal preference. I had the Prime and got rid of it. Now I have the TF300. I won't be getting rid of it. I definitely like it much better than the Prime as an overall device. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
are you in Omaha?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
Some parts of it are personal preference, i agree. But some are just Facts. I based my statement on how often and how i use my Tablet. For example The display is better on the prime because of the IPS+. And I use the display alot ;) Wifi on the other hand is only better in certain locations far away from the router. GPS yeah, no argument here but thats something I hardly ever use, thats why it only got a small %age in my statement :)

The look (aluminum/colored plastic) is personal preference. And all the other hardware stuff... Cpu clock, Gorilla Glass, speaker? etcetc are just better on the prime.

But i could see myself being happy with the TF300 as well :) but i already have a prime that works perfectly in all situations in which i need a tablet, so for me the TF300 is only superior in the 2% of my usage time where i need GPS. I'd never even think about exchanging it for a TF300^^
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bsweetness:
For me, the display isn't that big of a deal. Indoors, the displays are pretty comparable (unless you want retina burning brightness). Outside, it's not even a contest, but I don't use it outside. So the display argument again comes down to personal preference. Sure the Prime's display is better, but in general use, not much of a difference will be seen. CPU clock speed pretty much is a wash as well in every day use. The speaker on the Prime might be slightly better, but again, they're so similar that it would be tough for anyone to distinguish in a blind test.

I find the TF300 to be superior for my uses. I had incredibly spotting WiFi reception on my Prime, which in and of itself is pretty much a deal breaker. No such problems on the TF300. I actually use GPS fairly often, so that's a given on the TF300. The feel of the TF300 is much better in hand to me, particularly because of it being slightly thicker and having more rounded sides. I use the dock extensively, so using the Prime in a case to make the ergonomics more comfortable for long periods was frustrating since I had to constantly take it on and off. With the TF300, I don't have to worry about one.

So while I'll certainly agree that on paper the Prime is clearly ahead of the TF300, but in everyday use, I find the TF300 to be much more usable than the Prime was for me. And again, most of the reasons I listed why it is such come down to personal preference. You won't catch me knocking the Prime. It's fantastic. And I can certainly understand why people who own it wouldn't want to get rid of it for the TF300. But the TF300 just works for me in ways that the Prime didn't. The minor trade-offs in a few areas from the Prime have been more than worth it for improvements in daily use.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Posters like cloud5 & jjdevega make me feel good about my purchase. Prime is a great device, when you have a really good working one like we do..lol. I use my prime everyday. This is my computer as years ago(when first Ipad came out) I converted to using tablets for any and every computer function I needed. Now that I have the dock also, it adds a whole new dimension to prime and extends its already superior battery life. As far as how it feels, Prime feels great holding it. I'm 6'5, with big hands, so the whole prime cuts into people hands seem over exaggerated to me. like apple would say, "You holding it wrong" if it does..lol. Im still just as amazed with my device since the first day I got it. Everyone loves how thin and light it is. plus the differences in display compared to 300 isn't just prime being brighter. If you look at any tech site detailed breakdown of the 2 displays, Prime is clearly superior. With that said 300 still has a decent display. it not being gorilla glass will make it's display easier to break/scratch. so people better make sure to protect it. I haven't had a case or screen protector for my prime since day 1 and no scratches or cracks on the screen.

I can see why a few like the 300 over the prime. its because their experience with Prime wasn't a good one like mines. I bet if they had a prime like mines, or cloud5 or jjdevega, they wouldn't even want to downgrade to 300. It is a downgrade. Even Asus calls it this themselves. its the low end replacement to the OG Transformer. No disputing that.

I like having a device that's kind of exclusive. If i want to be a "me to" guy, I would've just got a new Ipad.

mods do need to go on and make a 300 section so we can get all these mofos up outta here..lol j/k..300 is the little brother to prime. its like little kids(300) running around playing. they need their own playground now so the grownups(Prime) can conduct business..lmfao
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ill1:
We have NFM here in kansas. I'll be out that way today and I'll drop in and see if they have one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
Thats what I thought. Only 2 nfm's, it had to be one if them. I actually drove to Kansas city for worlds of fun... Small world lol

Never been to the nfm in Kansas though. Great store.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
First GPS lock can take up to 12.5 minutes (internet connection could speed this up depending if AGPS was properly configured by manufacturer, which Asus often forgets to do it seems). Next locks will be much faster. 3 mins is too little to test GPS. The time is 12.5 because you need to get data about satellite positions from the satellites.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ill1:
Is this normal I ask as I don't use GPS on a tablet but I just tried GPS tether with my evo and got an instant lock. I would think waiting almost 12 minutes would leave me very lost.

The NFM by me didn't either have the the 300 or have them on display.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
I don't think you need other people to prove you are happy about your Prime... :rolleyes: BTW: Are you going to buy the TF700 because that is the "big brother to the Prime!"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
It all depends. More than likely ill just keep my prime.

really, I don't know yet. ill cross That bridge once it comes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
The one I tested was the NFM in Omaha.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ShelW:
It's not all personal preference. There are some indisputable difference's, which are simple facts:

IPS+ on TF201

TP201 is thinner

TP201 is lighter

TP201 has metal back, compared to plastic back of T300

TP201 has Gorilla Glass

TP201 has faster processor.

No camera flash on the T300

Hey, the T300 looks sweet, and has a great, very competitive price point. I'm considering it for my daughter.

But the differences, most of them, don't come down to personal preference.

I guess if someone wouldn't like to be able to see the screen in bright sunlight, you could make the arguement that ISP+ comes down to personal preference.

I really don't think I know anyone who, if asked if they'd like to be able to have a feature on their tablet that allowed the screens brightness to be increased so that it would be visible in bright sunlight, would answer "no, don't really want that"....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
Add to this:

T300 has better GPS,

T300 has better WiFi,

T300 has faster memory,

T300 has worse battery life.

To make this comparison fair.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
The faster memory, Ddr3 has already shown no improvements at all in 300. several major tech sites benchmarked it against prime ddr2. NO IMPROVEMENT in memory performance at all. even mtr, I believe, said no improvements seen at all when benchmarked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bsweetness:
They might be simple facts, but just because they're facts doesn't mean a person can't have a personal preference on them. In reality, most of them do come down to personal preference.

IPS+ on TF201

- If someone isn't going to use it outside, this generally won't matter. A user has to decide if the ability to use it outside trumps other aspects of the Prime/TF300 debate. For me, it doesn't. Personal preference.

TP201 is thinner

- Yes, but that doesn't make it better. The ergonomics of the TF300 are much better than the Prime ever was for me, and that's due in part to it being slightly thicker. Again, personal preference on whether that's a good or a bad thing.

TP201 is lighter

- Yep, and I've stated before that there is a notable difference in weight, even though it's just a few ounces. It's one place where the Prime definitely has the edge.

TP201 has metal back, compared to plastic back of T300

- Again, it's personal preference as to whether you prefer the feel of cold metal or plastic. I prefer the more rounded edges of the TF300, which is due in part to the plastic. I also don't miss the cold metal feel in hand. Additionally, the metal back is a big culprit in the GPS and WiFi issues for the Prime. I like having better GPS and WiFi reception along with the more rounded edges. Personal preference. The metal sure does look pretty though.

TP201 has Gorilla Glass

- Fair enough.

TP201 has faster processor.

- Just barely. And all of the performance tests run on the two have essentially identical results. The difference isn't noticeable in everyday use. It's just like the fact that TF300 has DDR3 ram and the Prime has DDR2. Technically, one is superior to the other, but by all accounts and performance tests, they run the same.

No camera flash on the T300

- I don't need a camera flash on my tablet. It's not worth losing out on other aspects that I prefer on the TF300 just to get a feature I won't use. Personal preference.

I don't know why everyone is getting so defensive about the Prime. There's no reason to. It's a fantastic device, and it's clearly supposed to be Asus' premium tablet right now. That shows in almost all respects. In actuality, I don't even know why any TF300 threads are in the Prime forum. Until the TF300 gets its own forum, threads about it should be in the TF101 forum because the TF300 is a replacement for that device, not the Prime.

But the fact is that for many people, the Prime did have some rather serious issues, pretty much all of which have been addressed with the TF300. And that, together with the fact that actual performance of the TF300 is on par with the Prime, make it a very good option for a lot of people. It's personal preference. I think the things that are lost in the transition from the Prime to the TF300 are totally worth it for a tablet that is more comfortable to hold and has much better WiFi/GPS reception. So you can point to specs all you want to, which is a fine and legitimate argument, but in actual use, much of it does come down to personal preference.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
instead on increasing RAM they should have put in faster flash memory. This device would be much faster with better read write speeds.

Also you will never see a difference in speeds as you increase memory speeds. Only programs that take up huge amounts of memory will see an increase. But tablets only have a gig of memory so no app will be able to take use of the ddr3
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
@bsweetness:

you're right :) Thats why the two tablets are at different price points so you have the choice. I think its great how Asus does it. Thats exactly the way Android manufacturers should do it (are you listening samsung?). A low cost device like the TF300, with just the minimum in specs to push the price down but still a good product. Then a well rounded mid range device for most users like the prime, and a high end "over the top" expensive one -->Tf700.

If you dont need/want the higher specs just save some money. With the ipad 3 3g for example everyone has to pay for that LTE modul, but very few will be able to use it. That kind of scenario sucks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] babymatteo:
The debate is = who the f**k cares.

It's your money and your choice how to spend it. There's no need for all the specs comparisons cos we all know they're both great tablets and sit atop of all the other tablets in the market currently.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
I think its because this is a Prime forum. So when people with tf300 starts comparing things it will get heated. Once tf300 has their own forum things should settle. Most Prime owners are happy. People don't like being told that there Primes suck when its quite the opposite especially when its on their turf which is the Prime forum.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bsweetness:
I missed where anyone said "Primes suck." I know I've said time and time again that the Prime is a fantastic device. It's actually been the Prime owners who have been antagonizing the TF300, with such pointless and ridiculous comments like:

The TF300 definitely needs its own forum. If nothing else, these threads should be in the TF101 forum since the TF300 is the successor to that device, not the Prime. It would be nice to be able to have legitimate conversations about the TF300 without someone coming in and saying how superior they think the Prime is to the TF300 every couple of posts. The Prime is the premium product of the two, we know that. But that doesn't make it the superior device for everyone.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] corwest:
Ive had both the Prime and the now the TF300. Honestly I like the 300 better. Didnt realize it didnt have gorilla glass and that sucks but it runs smoother throughout than my prime ever did. I had the latest C3 version of the Prime as well. To each there own though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maguu2u:
gave my tf201 to my daughter , sick of picking my memory cards up off the floor , and don't start telling me I was holding it wrong .

gorilla glass - who gives a crap , shatters just as easy and scratches just as easy , don't believe me , rub some sand on it .

Both good products , but if you ask an ipad user they will tell you they are crap .

They are like your kids , you don't like people saying they are ugly :D

Peace...out !
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bharathgana:
My Location not being updated

Hi All

My TF300 is having major issues in updating its location. I was in the US for a few months, then moved to Philippines and now in India. The location was auto updated in Philippines but for some reason its not updating in India.

The pad thinks its still in Philippines, not being able to used Foursquare, Maps etc. Even Google Now does not work!

Some tips, guidance on how to set things right will be greatly appreciated.
[HTC One X] nooomoto:
Is anyone having issues with Root Call Blocker after flashing the latest recovery? It was working fine yesterday after they updated the app, but today after flashing the new cwm the app is causing different issues on my phone.

Any ideas?
[HTC One X] panooos:
I am having problems too...Two days ago when the block was on no phone call or SMS was being received (whether on block list or not). This issue got fixed with the latest update (thanks god).But now some numbers on the block list sometimes get blocked and others not. I have not been able to find the pattern though....Waiting for the new update...
[HTC One X] panooos:
Just had the same issue again. Sms from numbers in block list sometimes get blocked, sometimes not. The pattern looks random, and happened with 2-3 different numbers. Sent issue to Fahrbot team twice in order to offer more logs of the problem..Hope gets fixed soon
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Mhbr549:
I've searched until I'm blue in the face on this and am sorry if i've missed it somewhere, but with any version of ShoStock2 ICS (including the newest 2.2.2) I can't get exchange to show emails newer than 3 weeks ago. Older one's show up fine. Also I can send emails and they will come through on the PC, but never on the phone. I've flashed back to ShoStock 1.9.4 gingerbread, and exchange works flawlessly. I have tried connecting on wifi and over the air, both with the same results. I would very much appreciate any insight you all might have.

Edit: Forgot to mention, exchange works fine on AOKP and Phone-Bricker ICS roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Mhbr549:
No one has any thoughts or help on this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kbulut:
Hi,

I've installed everything yesterday night. Everything including the exchange servers are working fine on my end. Could it be your setting by any chance?

I didn't use any other kernel, I used cherrypicker.

Exchange seems to be working fine at this end.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] RareAir23:
Running 2.2.2 and using exchange, no issues here. No to be a smart arse but you did wipe first right? :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Mhbr549:
I always wipe data, cache, and dalvik twice before flashing a new ROM (thanks to the advice of the great group of people on XDA forums), and this is the only one that I've had any issue getting exchange to play nice with. It sets up fine and syncs all of my emails except newer than 3 weeks ago. I've ran at least 10 different ROM's including two other ICS versions with no issue on this. I've tried 4 different ShoStock2 ICS versions beginning all the way back to the the RC1 release, all with this same result. I've tried using different kernels with different releases, removing and resetting the exchange acount, rebooting, connecting on wifi and HSPA+, swapped the email apk, held my breath and stood on my head. Something is missing somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can find it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Mhbr549:
Just to be certain that the problem still exists, I downloaded AOKP and ShoStock2 latest versions last night to try this again. I wiped everything twice prior to flashing and got the same results. Exchange loads every email from today-on with AOKP, but none newer that 3 weeks on ShoStock2. I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but surely someone else has some thought on this. The only thing I have not tried is running a kernel cleaning script. Does anyone think this might help?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
The reason why I removed email/exchange apk from my rom was this exactly.

No idea why, but if included with the rom it will just causes problems so I added it as an addon in the kitchen.

I would clear cache/force stop both apps, remove them, then install them again by just grabbing them from the zip file.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Mhbr549:
Thanks for that reply! At least someone knows I'm not crazy. (I was starting to think I was). I actually ran your ROM a few releases ago, before kitchen was in it and it was pretty smooth. I may have to give it another go. Thanks again for the reply my friend!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Mhbr549:
Problem solved.

Well, I solved the problem (sort of). I said to hell with fighting to get the exchange working on ShoStock2, and installed LiLChris06's Phone-Bricker 2.5 ROM. This thing is freaking sweet and exchange works like a champ. I've been running this ROM hard now for about two hours with no force-closes, no lag, and the battery seems to be holding up incredibly.

Thanks LiLChris06!!!