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[General Topics] trinilu27:
And my opinion I definitely think you're limited If the performance of the Note 5 is not par...Yea there are faster better phones out there,,,but not by much..Samsung love them or hate them but nothing holds its re-sale value like the note...
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
A5 2016 exynos
[General Topics] SirVer:
For some reason, the specs of the Exynos version are difficult to find; any differences from the SD version? How much was it?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
The CPU and GPU specs on paper makes this phone look "good" in performance but believe me i'm using it right now and i dont have any lag , its blazing fast , way faster than my S5 , the screen is the best screen i've ever held , looks like a 2K screen.

It cost around 350€ now , great deal.
[General Topics] Planterz:
Exynos 7 Octa-core 7580, 1.6GHz, Mali T720 GPU. The CPUs are pretty equally comparable; I can't speak for the GPUs, other than that neither are particularly powerful. Good enough for regular phone stuff, but it's not something you'd want to play Mortal Kombat X on.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
It run it just fine :)
[General Topics] udo 240:
Batterylive is mich more better than my oneplus one. Im a poweruser and it stays easy the whole day. I can say the n6 is a really good device. NFC, Quick Charge, wireless charge, oled, top sound speakers in Stereo on Front, 64gb .....
[General Topics] SirVer:
I know that the Exynos will probably outperform the Snapdragon, but would you consider the trade-off (potential development) to be worth it? Or is it equally bad/good for both variants?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
I don't think the exynos variant will get too much developpement and i'm aware of it. I have themes which change the whole UI and it will get marshmallow update so it's not a problem for me really.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Oh yeah, that's something I've been curious about: how does the Touchwiz theme engine compare to CM or Layers?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
It's amazing , thousands of themes that change the whole UI except the top bar ( signal , wifi..) , i can install a material design theme and enjoy Nexus experience , or marshmallow theme , black material...anything :D
[General Topics] SirVer:
Sounds neat - I'm getting more and more tempted by Sammy stuff these days. Argh, if only they were more dev-friendly! ?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Yeah agree but to be honest TW became so good i can't even think of developpement now , but you know that's my personnal opinion :)
[General Topics] Planterz:
That's kinda a toss-up, and it might depend on where the person is. Qualcomm powered Samsungs have traditionally been more dev-friendly than Exynos ones, but obviously root and custom ROMs still happen with Exynos. But the Snapdragon equipped S7/S7Edge all have their bootloader locked down (even the T-Mobile one, which is a headscratcher - the CEO even making inquiries on our behalf about it). Meanwhile the Exnyos version is unlocked and already has TWRP. So who can say? I can't.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Yeah, I know, it's all subjective. Me, I'm an AOSP/based guy through and through; the only skin I can stand for more than two months is Sony's (because they barely change anything), and I usually won't even keep that around for long. ?

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It's more than just a headscratcher - it's downright baffling. In the past, the SD variants were at least one way to get Sammy hardware for dev stuff; it wasn't perfect, but at least they weren't completely alienating power users/devs. Then they go and lock down the SD variant of their most anticipated flagship harder than the Exynos one. They might claim security, but if that was the case, why isn't the Exynos one locked down as much? At this point in time, from what I can see and what little I know, it just looks like they were deliberately shafting the community, which I don't think is likely. I just hope they're planning to introduce something like the UEFI system for it, or something like that: not only would that redeem them, it would be a new way forward for OEMs to balance security and freedom, which is good for everyone. That doesn't seem likely either, but... One can dream.

/rant
[General Topics] Planterz:
The Snapdragon variants are intended primarily towards the North American market, and features like KNOX and Samsung Pay are marketed towards there as well. So I kinda get that, I guess. As for the modding community, we're really and extremely small portion of their customers. A small percentage have even heard of "root", and fewer still even know what that means. One guy I worked with enjoyed (presumably still does) modding, but only after I got him into it. I've seen exactly one person with a OnePlus One (stock ROM, custom kernel), and that was just a couple weeks ago. I've never seen anyone else with a Nexus 6. No Nexus 5X or 6P's yet. I've met 3 people ever with a Nexus 4, and one gave me mine after she broke it (and another was her boyfriend). This hobby of ours really isn't that popular, known, or understood. So I kinda get why Samsung, or most any company isn't worried about losing this tiny percentage of business.

The headscratching part, to me, is that the T-Mobile version of the S7's have the bootloader locked, because T-Mobile has always been the friendliest carrier to people like us in the US (although maybe less so with tethering). Even John Legre doesn't understand - they didn't ask for it. You expect that with Verizon and AT&T, but not T-Mobile. The other headscratching bit, to me, is that Samsung has made several "Developer Editions" in the past, even for Verizon. Plus a few Nexuses and a GPE. Why lock everything down all of a sudden? It's gotta be because of their Samsung Pay and KNOX and the such. But why they couldn't simply disable/trip/whatever these things like they have in the past...that's beyond me. Anyone in our small community buying a Samsung already knows the "risks" or caveats or whatever of what we do. Warranty void, 0x1, no mobile payments, etc. And Samsung knows we know. Maybe they're scared we'll break it (we, meaning people other than me, and much smarter than me). Heck, all this nonsense with the FBI and Justice Department trying to force Apple to hack their own phones could be a contributing factor. All that crap started happening right around the same time of the S7's shipping. Not that I support crazy-ass terrorists shooting up a bunch of innocent people, but Apple is fighting the good fight in this instance (and this is coming from someone that hates Apple). Even though Samsung is a Korean company, they could very well be locking their phones down simply to avoid any potential legal bulls#@!. After all, they're in a constant battle with Apple in US courts.
[General Topics] SirVer:
Good points. I still would have liked to see a way for users to sign their own firmware packages, but I suppose that if a user can do it, an attacker can do it too. But that could be mitigated with some sort of disclaimer, couldn't it? Ah, I dunno.

I do agree that security is a concern when they serve the customer base they do, especially with that FBI thing going on. I'm no fan of Apple, but people all over the world, including me, are seriously concerned about the outcome of that case. You're not alone in taking Apple's side on that one.

I'm realizing now that the real puzzler, now that you mention it, is the lack of (at least an announcement for) a developer edition, or something like it; it wouldn't be all that hard for them to do, and it'd go a long way towards buying them some goodwill from the community - which would be a good thing, because no matter how much of a minority we are, we're pretty vocal.
[General Topics] force70:
I get fantastic battery life on my nexus 6 on MM, at least as good if not a little better than my note 4.

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Better than note 4 ? Is it full stock ?
[General Topics] terragady:
Hi, i am planning to change my old phone already, HTC one m7, I know it has been ages but I was satisfied with it and its still pretty good with custom rom and kernel ;) But finally its time.

So I am choosing between Nexus 6P or 5X, Samsung S7 (i do not like edge), LG G4 (or maybe wait for G5? but modular design didn't really caught me :( ), or maybe can you suggest something else?

So what I expect: a solid battery life, nice camera which now almost all of the phones have, nice UI, good speakers, and It is kind of fetish but I like when phone is updating, in HTC i was always waiting for ARHD updates, i know that nexus wins here at all levels, but how about samsung and LG? Is it fine? I am waiting for Android N as well, do you think the rest of phones which are not nexus will get it soon after release?

So what I like:

S7 - sd card slot, waterproof, camera, battery

G4 - cheap, nice camera, nice fitted big screen, quite nice UI and ok updates?

6P - updates, ok camera and battery, unfortunately its not really available in my country so I have to import it somehow, but its not a huge problem, its only not so cheap comparing to others like in US.

Maybe should I wait for HTC m10? or LG G5? I want to try something different than HTC now, but i was pretty happy with development scene there and a lot of custom roms, I am not sure how it will be with LG or Samsung's TouchWiz (I do not like horizontal app drawer :P), i heard that it is better now and so on, but what do you think?
[General Topics] SirVer:
Normally, I'd say the S7 was for you, but you like updates and custom kernels/ROMs, and both of those will take forever to come to the S7, if they come at all. G4 has the same problem, but they are slightly better with updates, and is not as locked down. The 6P might be the best for you, depending on how much you want an SD card slot. However, since your current device is doing fine, my advice would be to wait a little longer for the HTC 10 to come out; in the meantime, you can watch the prices of the other phones, and grab one if you get a good deal on it, or if you're not impressed by the 10.
[General Topics] terragady:
about custom roms etc it's not now that I cannot live without, I was playing with it some time ago and now I am just using one because has better battery life but its almost stock (few xposed features for clock and battery icon). Updates yes I like them :) Can I count that G4 will get Android N update? About sdcard I think I will be fine with 64 or 128gb, but again I will pay similar price like for S7, so there is not a big deal for me :(

Better than for htc 10 i would wait for new nexus :) but like this I can wait all the time for something new and newer buy anything, there will be always something coming with something nice and new that I would like to have.
[General Topics] SirVer:
The G4 will almost definitely get N - it was only released last year. As for how fast, or how many more updates after N? It's a toss up.

It sounds like you'd be happy with any of these devices, honestly, and you can't really go wrong with any of them from a hardware perspective. I don't know when the new HTC comes out, but it may be in a month or two, so I'd recommend waiting for that, but no longer - new Nexii aren't due for half a year, and like you said, if you keep waiting, you're never going to get anything. ?

So whether you wait or not, just go with the one you have a good instinct about. ?
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Hey Guys,

can you tell me the advantages and disadvantages of the LG G4 please? My main interest is the price, Custom Roms, Camera and Battery. And can you also tell me where I can get it for the cheapest price in Germany?
[General Topics] trinilu27:
Well I just went from the Samsung Galaxy S5 to the g4.. First off the G4 does not feel nearly as fragile in my hand as the S5...g4 has bigger screen, and I only has the 16 gig S5 andI have the 32 gig G4 however I like to watch a lot of high-definition videos and the the G4 is not quite to par with the quality of video but that's about it other than that I would take the G4 over anything else I've owned
[General Topics] terragady:
How is behaving your battery in G4? Are you with MM?
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
My coworker has the g4 and he likes it a lot. His last phone was a galaxy ace 2x that was slow as molasses though so he doesn't have much to compare it to.
[General Topics] trinilu27:
When I got the phone it was on mm.....I flashed back to lollipop yesterday....mm was not good at all....first of there's not root because of the locked boot loader...that's a deal breaker for me...the battery life was about 3 and a half hours and that's no joke...after going back to lollipop I had 100% charge at 9:00am this morning and didn't plug in till about an hour ago...it's 10:45 pm here now...I had a g3 right be four my s5 I just sold and I liked it but the g4 I like even more....same size but it seems a lot lighter....I don't really have any complants so far....
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Don't we can unlock the bootloader of the G4? :/
[General Topics] trinilu27:
Not on marshmallow 6.0
[General Topics] chema88:
Hi guys,

I have an Elephone P7000, which does not work with Android Auto.

There seems to be many processors that are not compatible with android auto, and I am looking for some phone that could work with it.

I want something like Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, but I guess it should not work with android auto...

I found that LG G4 is working fine with this technology but is more expensive.

What should I buy?

My phone has 44K points in antutu, it works really smooth, and I want something more than 65K in my new phone, never less than 3GB ram... And under 300€. Is it possible?
[General Topics] spcialx:
I currently own a Sony Xperia Z2 for nearly two years.

To be honest i really thought about getting an IPhone, just because I would like to try something different and maybe develop an app or two for iOS (for now I just did some Android App Development) even I don't like Apple much for their politics. But actually I have already so many things and apps connected with Googles Services that I think moving all the data from Android to iOS would be very exhausting.

So I think I will stick with Android and get a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge mid of this year :)

But I also like the announced Xiaomi Smartphones which should be released in europe soon
[General Topics] udo 240:
OnePlus One! Really cheap and best community support. Around 70 - 80k points in AnTuTu
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Antutu is garbage
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
But this doesn't make sense. If you unlocked the bootloader, why it should be locked on MM?
[General Topics] SirVer:
Where have you seen an OPO that scores that much in Antutu? Any screenshots? The OPO has an SD801, and while it's a good chip, it doesn't have the power to get a score like that.
[General Topics] trinilu27:
Because it's a new boot loader......can't be unlocked..

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Look up (unlocking boot loader on Android 6.0)
[General Topics] SirVer:
You really shouldn't be using Antutu as a filter for selecting a phone (unless it's abnormally low for a particular device, which can indicate bad firmware); 45k is a relatively low score these days, but, like you said, still delivers a fantastic experience. If I were you, I would make a list of devices that fit all my other requirements, and then compare their processors - look at how the chip handles high load, throttling, the GPU, and so on, and check against your use case. There are plenty of reviews that do extensive analysis on the more popular processors. Generally speaking though, anything equivalent to or better than a 1.7-2.0 GHz quad core will do great, if the rest of the hardware, and the software, is done well.

P.S: I thought Android Auto was compatible with any 5.0+ device? And the P7000 has Lollipop, so...
[General Topics] trinilu27:
Benchmarks worthless,...misleading
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
Just upgrade to mm after unlocking bootloader. It shouldn't relock because of upgrading right? My bootloader has been unlocked on my m8 since just after I got it like 9 months ago, and I've changed firmware and stuff since then. It doesn't relock.
[General Topics] SirVer:
It could relock - I'm pretty sure it's possible to include a bootloader package in an OTA, at least for some devices/manufacturers; do correct me if I'm wrong.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
There shouldn't be a problem, you also can unlock the new Nexus devices based on Android 6. And isn't the bootloader a different thing then the software?
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
If I have the phone unlocked I don't bother running any ota updates anyway, I just flash whatever rom I want. Even if I want stock I'll either flash a stock repackaged zip or fast boot flash the stock rom. I flashed the stock gpe through fast boot a couple times back at the start.
[General Topics] trinilu27:
Ok on g4 anyway

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Yea I never did understand why people took the of a after root and then cryed guY they lost root

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From what they were telling me on another post here on xda is mm is totally different bootloader... And Google has added security that cannot be touched
[General Topics] terragady:
ok guys thanks for suggestions, I will buy G4 and MM looks to be fine for most of the people and switching off logcat seems to improve battery. I will take G4 and wait for new nexus so at the begginign of 2017 I can change my G4 for new nexus :)
[General Topics] SirVer:
I thought the Google security thing was for devices released with Marshmallow? I wouldn't know, because I haven't run stock LG MM yet - haven't felt the need to either, except for the camera.
[General Topics] trinilu27:
And you know you mite be right....if that's the case it is for g4 and s5....anyway I love this phone and so will you....good luck friend
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
You just buy a new phone for only 3/4 year? Wow!

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I think the G4 is a very solid phone and if I would buy it now it would be my daily driver for about the next 3 years I think. But you don't know whats next, maybe in 3 years smartphones are the oldest thing you can remember and nobody has one :D
[General Topics] terragady:
LG G4 is not expensive anymore so I can afford to just sell it back in next year and buy new phone, no problem here, or I can just go to some immigrant neighborhood, got it stolen and take money from insurance for new one haha :)
[General Topics] udo 240:
Yes of course! It has been my own device! Now I own two Nexus6...
[General Topics] kamranhaghighi:
What do to guya think of xiomni mi 5? I feel weird about trusting a company like that! Specially with quality and software updates! Maybe ill wait fkr op3!
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
It looks awesome , concerning the software i love it. I tried MIUI rom on my S5 and i really liked it..but you know if you have a higher budget get the S7.
[General Topics] kamranhaghighi:
Even if I had budger which I dont ;) i would not buy it! Non of my samsung phones were good ;( also no software updates! And a bit of other issues like multitasking issues and stuff! I forgot about the battery too!
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
How much is your budget ?
[General Topics] kamranhaghighi:
Well... Unlimited.. I'm only 18 and I have enough saving for any phone under than 800$-900$~, but on the other hand if I save I can buy other stuff like a 3d printer or a monitor or use it for future :$ So I rather get the cheapest longest lasting phone that can do what I want till either new type of batteries come or project ara comes :D(yeah i still remember that)
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Nexus 6P ? LG G4 ?
[General Topics] SirVer:
But... That shouldn't be possible. SD801 devices score in the 35-45k range on average, and I've never seen any of them go above 50-55k; what ROM were you running? Were you overclocked?
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
Here's mine, first time I've ever done a benchmark on this phone. Basically lines up with what you just said.
[General Topics] iang265:
HTC One X+ for me. It really depends if t-mobile/EE get there act together with 4G in Sheffield.
[General Topics] Psycho29388:
Depends on whats out by the time I need one.

Most likely will be getting either a Note 2 or a GS3 though.
[General Topics] broadways:
An S4 preferably
[General Topics] GizMoQC:
Motorola Jet Or any Big phone with great stat and a QWERTY!

Like

Tegra 3 quad core 1.7

2 gig ram

4inch screen

NFC

Wireless charge

All the latest big thing that put the Iphone behind even before it release.
[General Topics] getinnocuous:
Pretty sure my next smartphone will be something made by Samsung. I'm on Verizon and they seem to have the strongest Cyanogen support and hell, they're pretty nice too. My friend's dad enjoys his Galaxy S III, but I'm thinking along the lines of a Nexus.

Or hell, if I'm tired of Android (doubt it) I'll just get an iPhone 5 and take pics of myself to put on Instagram.
[General Topics] hayos:
still trying to save up for a galaxy note 2.... if a new nexus comes out along the way. might was well get the new nexus...
[General Topics] quaz3:
The major factor deciding my last purchase (HD2) was the love it was on getting from xda-devs. So previously I planned on getting a Galaxy III, but this one has fallen a quite out of favour lately?
[General Topics] undercover:
Has it really? In what way?

Don't forget there are a lot more devices to choose from nowadays, so devs and chefs are a lot more scattered
[General Topics] inyourface09:
Hmmmm

I would have to say Galaxy S III hands down, quad core phones make me drool :D

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I might go for the xiaomi phone ;D
[General Topics] MikeyMike01:
Quad core doesn't mean a thing.

Unless you like bragging about worthless stats and running misleading benchmarks 24/7.

Get the next Nexus. It'll never fall out of favor.
[General Topics] babyyeobo14:
I think i dont have because i am in MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY only :) but i have GALAXY POCKET
[General Topics] lawrencew:
I was thinking of getting a new phone, probably a Nexus, but have decided that Jellytime on my DHD is now awesome. :highfive:

(I'm having to post so I can build up 10 posts to post in the development section. It's rather pathetic, I know.)
[General Topics] vizzy:
I heard that EE are only releasing HTC One XL for 4g not the one x+ ?
[General Topics] :
The cheapest one
[General Topics] clyphox:
Definitely not a phablet, just sold my new sgs 3 as I can't stand having bricks in my pocket. All I want is a sgs2 (size wise) with better battery life.
[General Topics] CyberScopes:
Nexus 2.
[General Topics] undercover:
One X+ is a superb phone! Very very good. the only thing i dislike is tegra 3 which is old tech in a new wrapper. I'd much rather see One XL+ come out (with S4 CPU).

But. I personally won't be getting it on principle. I had Sensation from day 1. Crap battery life, CPU easily capable of 1.5 but clocked at 1.2. What HTC does? They later release XE version that is the same phone with cpu at 1.5 and better battery. So you can imagine how quite unhappy I was. Now I see they have done the same thing with One X+. As much as i like the phone, i don't think me supporting HTC with my money is right.
[General Topics] prosmb:
Optimus G it has blown my mind.
[General Topics] b00sted415:
Galaxy Nexus for me.
[General Topics] cimunk_pure:
probably Samsung Galaxy S3..:D
[General Topics] udo 240:
What AnTuTu Version do you use. The current versions gives much higher points... Try it
[General Topics] SirVer:
I actually get lower scores than usual with the newer versions - I just assumed it was because they put too much focus on GPU performance these days. On LG stock LP, I used to average 43k, peaked at 46, but on custom ROM (haven't tested on Dirty Unicorns, which is my current, but I don't expect it to change much) I get only about 40, even though performance and battery life are far better than on stock.