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[General Topics] superwall:
I will wait to leave the galaxy s8 and decide considering what you have at that time in the market. I are quite liking the new huawei quality and price .
[General Topics] superspletti:
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[General Topics] RuF0_27:
Hi,

I need help buying a new phone, what do you recommend below 220€
[General Topics] obscuresword:
I'm assuming you mean below $220 lol? How about the Meizu M3 Note?

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Seems like a very good price especially considering the Nexus 5x is about $280-$300. You can also get an LG G4 for like $180 new on eBay too
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
LG G3
[General Topics] eragon21:
Hi,

I'm looking for an android phone under 100$(7000 rupees). It's for my parents. They would occasionally use internet. Mostly for calls, listening to music. No games.

All I want is good battery and durable phone. Both moto e and redmi 2 prime are not available in india right now (amazon and flipkart).

Please suggest some.

Thanks
[General Topics] marmistrz:
See if Intex Aqua Fish satisfies you/them. It's a SailfishOS smartphone, so theoretically you should be able to setup Android there if they don't like Sailfish. It's for India only.

Sailifish on Aqua Fish should have Alien Dalvik, but I'm not sure, check it.
[General Topics] eragon21:
Seems like it's not available yet. Couldn't find it anywhere online
[General Topics] SirVer:
I don't know about durable, but check out the Coolpad Note 3 Lite - relatively small battery, but with that light usage and low-power processor, it will last all day (and maybe more) easily.

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Even though you haven't mentioned anything about chipset or RAM, this is still the most specific spec req I've ever seen. ?

To be frank, I don't think what you're looking for exists. I'm not going to talk about driver availability, since I have no clue what libhybris is, and the one line description on GitHub did nothing to help. The only way I know of running an alternate OS is the chroot thing, and as far as I remember, that does not require separate drivers. The closest thing that matches your hardware requirements is the BlackBerry Priv, but I don't know how tinker-friendly it is (given the focus on security, I wouldn't hold my breath). The Galaxy S4 and S5 have QWERTY cases available, can be rooted, and AFAIK have Lollipop available. S5 has Marshmallow, but will probably not get anything after that. The S5 looks like your best option, but if you need drivers for anything, a Samsung is the opposite of good.

BTW, I wouldn't bank on Fairphone accessories coming along anytime soon - it's not exactly popular. You could take a look at the PuzzlePhone, but the same applies.

Additionally: Are you sure you want to run Debian on a phone? It gets points for awesomeness, sure, but it's also horribly cumbersome. I have an old Galaxy Glide with a slide out keyboard, and using the terminal on it is no less of a pain than using a virtual keyboard. I'm just saying that choosing a phone based on how well suited it is for a task that will almost every smartphone would suck at doing may be a source of regret later on.
[General Topics] gaspariperez:
Is the 6P still worth to buy? Or should I wait for the new Nexus?

Or maybe buy the 6P after the new Nexus is released? How much cheaper you think it will be by then?

Thanks in advance
[General Topics] Planterz:
I'd wait, if you can. The price of the Nexus 6 dropped dramatically when the 6P came out (like, by half). Although if you happen to have Amazon Prime the 6P is available for pretty cheap. The 6P will be a relevant device for a long while, and depending on what you're looking for, you might prefer it over the next Nexus. Bigger screen, front-facing stereo speakers, etc. The next Nexues are a few months away though, and details right now are fairly scant.
[General Topics] S1611:
Jan 2015 I bought Oneplus One used it for a year and finally sold it on Jan 2016 and bought iPhone 6s 64GB for more than $1000. Since then Ive been using it and frankly Im terribly disappointed and frustrated by the whole iOS eco system. Not to mention the higher cost of same Apps vis-a-vis Android.

Im now planning to get a second phone, an android, for my love of rooting and flashing custom ROMs and for changing more than a wallpaper in the name of customization. And eventually sell my iphone after a year since selling it now will cause heavy depreciation loss to me. Ive set a budget of $200 to buy a custom rom happy android phone, please tell me which phones should I consider. Im open to used phones too. Please note that phone should have rich custom rom development activities.
[General Topics] kskkumar:
Please suggest me a phone that has cyanogen mod official support and high end spec under ₹25k
[General Topics] marmistrz:
Maybe it's not realeased yet: http://intex.in/intex-sailfish-os/

:)

Thanks a lot for the reply. TBH, most phones will have decent CPU or RAM. That's something I can get without much hassle.

libhybris is a library written by the Jolla Oy employees, which allows glibc systems to use the Android drivers. It's used to run real GNU/Linux systems (such as SailfishOS or Ubuntu Touch) on Android hardware. [1]

Basically, if the hardware adaptation is full of hacks, one needs to port all those hacks, which severely makes it harder to run non-Android systems on Android hardware.

Blackberry Priv is the hacker's nightmare. Blackberry decided not to allow users gain any root access in the name of.... "privacy".

Galaxy S4 doesn't work really well under libhybris [1], guess S5 too.

Hmmm... I'm currently using a Nokia N900. I use the terminal a lot. My favorite note taking app is .txt file + less. (so I can later grep them) I update/install apps via apt-get. My favorite dl manager is wget. It's easier for me to copy files around with ls/cp/mv than with some touch-based file manager. Sometimes I use ssh to access the machine in the other room. That are basically activities I found in my shell history on my Nokia.

Unfortunately, the Nokia is so dated, that web browsing becomes... uncomfortable.

But irl, Debian has scarce usage on my Nokia. I use it for one app that's not available natively and that need.

Anyway: using Debian or terminal on my Nokia is not clumsy at all for my.

But I know that Android is no glibc system, so I may need to use the chroot more often. But what comes to my mind right now, does it really matter for the choice of the phone? I guess any phone will handle it in a similar way :)

[1] https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris
[General Topics] SirVer:
Interesting. I have to wonder how I haven't come across this before, because I had been looking for something like this a year or two ago. I'll have to read up a little more to understand how it works.

Yeah, I thought so. Too bad.

There's probably an Android app out there that lets you search notes using regex, or a search function good enough that you don't need it. As for apt-get, I'm pretty sure there's no app that allows you to install apps from the play store via CLI. There's an app called Termux which gives you a bash shell, and has a repo for ARM builds of some common tools, but it's not exactly extensive. Also, while touch screen shenanigans may be difficult on a resistive touch Nokia, it's very easy on an Android; it's unlikely you'll find it less efficient than using a CLI - though of course, "unlikely" doesn't mean "no way".

Which app do you need Debian for? Android might have it natively. If not, there are a bunch of apps on the Store that install various Linux distros for you almost automatically.

Does what really matter? I don't really get what you're trying to say... ?

The best phones for this kind of thing are usually Nexuses (since most of these Linux in Android projects get tested on them), but the OnePlus One is good for it as well (and that page you linked to seems to back me up). In fact, the One and the Xperia Z1 have non-final Ubuntu Touch builds available, though of course, Ubuntu Touch is pretty useless as a mobile OS. Sony is very dev friendly, so Xperias are also possible candidates.
[General Topics] marmistrz:
In the Linux world, Play Store could expose some DBus interface and I could just dbus-send. Nothing like that on Android?

Well, the Nokia's touch screen is really comfortable. Sometimes it's just faster to type a command or two than to tap your way through the GUI.

Hmmm... Mnemosyne has an app, but it doesn't satisfy my requirements. I want to add the cards on the phone. Currently using Mnemosyne in a Debian chroot, so I can do it on my phone. I guess I'll have to do the same on Android.

Gourmet recipe manager doesn't have an app for Android.

I guess I may want to run some Python snippets written on the go.

Maybe compile something? Basically: if I don't find the app I need, I can always chroot.

I just mean that any phone should run chroot equally well :) shouldn't it?

OnePlus 1 2 and 3 are all available in my country. Is it worth to pay extra for OnePlus 2 or OnePlus 3?

I also think about the Meizus: Pro 5 already runs Ubuntu, Pro 6 will.

BQ Aquaris E5 ran Ubuntu, so is well libhybris-compatible too.

And if the two competitors were OnePlus 3 vs Fairphone2. Which one would you suggest and why?
[General Topics] SirVer:
Not as far as I know, though I am admittedly not an expert.

I know that feeling on a PC, but phone keyboards have always been too small for me to type out paths and stuff efficiently. To each his own, I suppose. ?

If you want to run Python, there's always QPython for Android? That might work. And Termux has a gcc build available that works on ARM, I think.

You could chroot, but there are apps like Complete Linux Installer, Linux Deploy, and Debian noroot that do all the work for you. Haven't tried them, but they might serve your purpose.

In theory, yeah, but I've heard that phones with custom UI skins like Samsungs and LGs can sometimes have trouble. If it's reasonably close to stock Android though, it shouldn't be a problem. And even if it isn't stock, you could always flash a custom ROM is there's one available.

I think the OnePlus Three is definitely worth the extra cash, especially if you're going to be using it for 5 years like your last device. The One will probably do fine for the same time period too, but not nearly as well. Build quality the Three is also far better - as good as the device itself is, the One has had quality control and build issues. I wouldn't even consider the Two, if I were you - it's a step backwards from the One in almost every way, and is not worth getting when you have the other two as options.

Considering your tendency to drop your phone, the Fairphone does seem to be a great choice, as it's modular and easily repairable, and if it had more than 2 gigs of RAM, I'd probably recommend it; the entire spec sheet is rather lackluster, considering how much it costs, but that RAM would be the nail in coffin, at least for me. Don't get me wrong, 2 gigs is still enough for a good, smooth experience (this will probably not be the case in a few years, though), but when you're paying that much, there should really be at least 3, especially since in your case, you'll be running two OSs at the same time.

As for openness, they're both completely open source. Well, almost; OnePlus has not released code for their Dash Charge feature, though they have promised binary blobs. I don't know if there are any other proprietary bits they haven't released, but they seem pretty committed to helping out developers, so I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually became as compatible with libhybris as the Fairphone, especially if you reached out for help.

Overall, I personally would choose the OnePlus Three - it's future proof, it's dev friendly, and it's cheaper. But if durability/longevity is more important to you, then Fairphone is probably a better idea. Depends on what your priorities are, really.
[General Topics] marmistrz:
Is there some Android terminal emulator which allows us to press the tab key... The Harmattan terminal had a special toolbar with useful non-alphanumeric chars and keys, such as esc, tab, etc.

If you want to run Python, there's always QPython for Android? That might work. And Termux has a gcc build available that works on ARM, I think.

You could chroot, but there are apps like Complete Linux Installer, Linux Deploy, and Debian noroot that do all the work for you. Haven't tried them, but they might serve your purpose.

Can one create a vanilla Android ROM? I know about AOSP - are there any other fully open source Android versions?

In which way not nearly as well (apart from the build quality)? Will I ever notice the CPU/RAM difference? Is there something else noticeable?

I won't run two OSes at the same time. Libhybris allows to dual boot some GNU/Linux.

Thanks! I didn't know about the OnePlus openness. Future proof - only because of the impressing spec?

Fairphone has the advantage of possible hardware extension. The only thing remains: will there be anyone to create such extensions.

Is there any chance for both devices to get a little cheaper within a year from now on?
[General Topics] SirVer:
All terminal emulators have those keys, but they're usually activated by a key combo. For example, tab is volumeup+T. I don't know if there are any that offer a toolbar like that.

AOSP is Android - it's the base from which all the other flavours are built on. Anyone can download and build it, but you're going to need kernel source (and other things) for your specific device, and few devices have all those readily available (Nexuses, OnePlus devices, Xperia devices). If you're asking whether any of those flavours are also open source: yes. There's CyanogenMod (CM), AOKP, AICP, Validus, Bliss, Paranoid Android, and many, many more. They're all based on either AOSP or CM. There are a couple of OEMs who have made their custom flavours open source, such as Yu (Android on Steroids), OnePlus (OxygenOS), and Jide (RemixOS).

Not immediately (the One will obviously be slower than the Three, but not slow), but in time, yes - the Snapdragon 801 processor is rock solid, and still quite powerful, but has already started showing its age (not much, but it has). And while 3 GB of RAM is abundant now, if current trends are anything to go by, apps are going to keep getting more and more bloated and resource hungry (as phones grow more and more powerful), and 3 GB will seem to be too little. Insane, I know, but that's what it's starting to look like at this point.

The OnePlus One is two years old now, and the fact that it's still relevant is a testament to how powerful it is, but it won't be another two years down the line. Then, it will only be "adequate". As for the OnePlus Three - I have full confidence that any Snapdragon 820 device will be relevant even 5 years down the line, at least in terms of power, if not efficiency (which will obviously have improved quite a bit by then).

I was talking about the chroot thing. Seeing as I have no knowledge about libhybris, I'll let you decide what its memory requirements should be. ?

That, and the openness - even if OnePlus abandons the device in terms of updates, the community won't, and the fact that it's open source means that you'll get updates as good as or better than the official ones would have been.

Does it? I thought it was modular in the sense that it was constructed in an easy to repair fashion, not that it allowed for hardware extensions.

The Fairphone? Probably not. Going by specs, the asking price should be a fifth of what it is - it's expensive because of their ethical materials sourcing, and unless that gets a lot cheaper than it currently is, I suspect there won't be much change.

As for the OP3, it's hard to say. Their profit margins are already razor thin, so there's really not much room for it to drop. Even after two years, a brand new OPO is only $50 ($100 if you're lucky) cheaper than it was at launch, whereas most other flagships have depreciated by hundreds of dollars. There might be a price cut around the time they release their next flagship, but it's not a sure thing.
[General Topics] marmistrz:
A relative of mine has a Samsung Galaxy J7 2016. Does it mean they can't create any custom ROM!?

I guess the memory requirements shouldn't be as high on Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch - their main programming language is C++ with QML and not Java (thank goodness)

So the OnePlus community can be treated as an active one?

The Maemo (N900) community is a very active one, the Community Seamless Software Updates are still worked on. [1] And it's what I love in this community

From the data sheet:

Expansion Port: Backside - connectivity to external case

Expansion Port Type: USB 2.0 Device Interface + Power Input

I could get the OP3 at 407€ at the current exchange rate, it's still less than on Amazon or eBay (~460€)

And is there anything cheaper you would recommend? (not rejecting OP3, just want to know what the alternatives are)

Seems that Meizu, BQ, Xiaomi have good hw adaptation. There's also OnePlus X we haven't taken into account.

[1] http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/changes.log
[General Topics] terragady:
Meizu (not sure) and xiaomi do not have 800MHz band which will lower your LTE range and it will be worse in the future, especially in Poland where most of the networks will have this band for bigger range outside cities.

OP3 as I am reading now because I want also to buy this phone is nice but have also some issues with screen, slider, weak vibrations and bad sound
[General Topics] SirVer:
Samsungs are a pain to develop for - many devs over the years have ragequit because of Samsung going out of their way to flip them the finger.

The J7 has a Snapdragon processor, so it should be bit easier to work with than if it had an Exynos (Samsung's in-house SoC), since kernel sources are available via Code Aurora Forum, but if ROMs do ever come out, expect them to be buggy, slow, and missing stuff like GPS, at least in the beginning.

It's one of the most active in Android, maybe even more than the Nexus community.

Maemo is still active? Wow, that's like 10 years now, right? I always wanted one, but I was too young to even own a phone back then.

Huh. That's actually pretty awesome. Too bad no one's made any modules for it.

Nothing that comes close to those specs and is as dev friendly. The Nexus 6 is an option, but it's not that much more powerful than the OPO, and costs a lot more than it. You could go for the Nexus 5X, but that's even more expensive than the 6, and has poorer specs.

HW adaptation? What do you mean?

The X is out of stock, and OnePlus has no plans to make more. You can find them with resellers, but for a hiked price. There's no real reason to get it over the OPO, and it's also a lot more fragile.
[General Topics] marmistrz:
In Poland we have only 1800 MHz right now, 800 is planned, but not by all carriers: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Term_Evolution

Can you give the source for this information? Found in the Internet, info from a friend?

That's a pity. I'm so happy that's not my phone.

Not so active as it used to be, but there are still some projects active; most of the folks have moved to Sailfish though; some stayed with the N900. Hardly anyone develops for the N9. You can visit talk.maemo.org and see what's happening currently.

There's only some discussion about it, nothing real yet. https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-2-hardware-extensions/11457

And as dev friendly as OP3 with possibly poorer specs?

All the pieces of software which are needed for the hardware support. To my understanding it's synonymous to drivers, but I'm not sure.
[General Topics] Micheal86:
I`m interested in Samsung Galaxy A7(2016 Edition).

What everyone else think about A7 ?

Pls share any suggesstion/recomendation.
[General Topics] SirVer:
The display issues have been fixed via OTA, unless he's talking about a hardware issue, which I haven't heard anything about. The speaker is kinda mediocre, but not terrible considering the price. I haven't heard anything about the slider, but a Google search should clear it up. Remember, even if a few people in a few forums have the issue, it doesn't mean it's widespread. As for the weak vibration motor, this was an issue with the OP2 as well. It's mentioned in the XDA review, I think, and it can supposedly be fixed by changing the appropriate build.prop value, which you probably won't even need root to do (thought it would make it easier).

Well, there's the OPO. Apart from that, I think you're pretty much restricted to the Nexus line, which all have lesser specs than the OP3; you wouldn't notice that difference with the 6P, but the 6P is more expensive than the OP3. The Xperia line is worth a look, but as dev friendly as they are, they don't come close to Nexus or OnePlus.

Hmm. I don't know about Meizu and BQ one way or another, but I think Xiaomi is a mixed bag - I'm not confident enough in my recollection to say anything about code availability, but one thing that stands out is that they recently locked their bootloaders, and made the unlocking procedure a pain in the a**, involving submitting a request for the unlock code along with reasons to the dev team, who apparently personally vet every request, which means it'll take at least two or three weeks, and may be denied at the end of it. Again, no idea about code availability though.
[General Topics] terragady:
Of course you are wrong, check more updated info, Orange and T-Mobile have hundreds of 800 MHz stations, Plus as well and as I know they and rest will focus on that band more in future.
[General Topics] marmistrz:
Why will they focus on LTE800? Where do you know it from?
[General Topics] terragady:
I do not know why, there is probably better range with this freq, i have it from their news and polish auctions, there is also a map with 800MHz stations.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
I was going to sell my S6 for 370€ then i said no , but now i'm thinking to sell it again, battery life is horrible.
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
i had alot of problems with my HTC M9, in the end it just died would not power on and it was in service for almost 5 months by the time i got ot back .. not joking.

my next phone will be a Samsung Note 5 or S7. not sure.... which has better for root/development & custom roms?
[General Topics] aspot72:
Well I'm now a Huawei user. Couple years ago I would slap anybody suggest me Huawei device. Generally they are crappie, but the G and P models are topnotch.

Well specced (3GB ram, 32 GB rom, paired with FHD screen along with 3000 mAh battery ), but firmware should be polished a bit more . Overall the customisation and permission /app control are handled very well, with very little restrictions.

My customisation is the use of the Black Berry apps as it does all my needs. Lack of custom ROMs has to have compensation :cool: .

Overall happy with the P and G models, and never had any heating issue, I'm sticking with Huawei until Samsung or HTC will come out with something, that will make me to switch again...
[General Topics] :
OK guys, so my girlfriend has a LG G2 Mini LTE and she's looking for an upgrade.

She's looking for a decent/good camera and GPS signal. Not more than 5.5 inch. And somewhere around 350 euros. She also said not "ugly", so if there's some girl around here, I'd appreciate the help regarding this aspect.

EDIT: Also some decent battery.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
LG G4
[General Topics] anzei19:
i might be buying a new samsung s7 to try it's gear vr :D will it be worth it?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
If money isnt a problem , why not waiting for the Note 7 ?
[General Topics] anzei19:
Well it really isn't a problem. and besides i used note 2 and note 3 before. i am just thinking i might AGAIN get that... nasty... problem with the tip of the s.pen again and the trouble for looking for replacement if you know what i mean. HAHA
[General Topics] 350Rocket:
What happened to note 6? Did they skip it?
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
They want to make the whole family 7 , to sound better , like Note 7 and S7 then Note 8 and S8..etc