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[General Topics] Aimless Rambler:
Just fishing for opinions.

Criteria:

1. $450.00 or less USD

2. Removable Battery

3. Expandable Memory (SD Card Slot)

4. Developer Friendly (Root/Rom)

5. 32GB (or more) Storage

6. 2 GB (or more) RAM

7. GSM

8. 5.0 - 5.7 (maybe more) display

Ex fanboy of Samsung and LG (older devices) but always open to something good.
[General Topics] wrbl:
Ok Guys these phones are on my list:

Moto Z

HTC 10

OnePlus 3

Huawei p9/Honor 8

What do you think about them? I'm comming from a G3 with 3Gb Ram variant. I hand my hands on the Moto Z, HTC 10 and the Huawei phones. I really like the Moto and the HTC when it comet to looks and usage.

HTC wins in terms of build quality and looks and the camera in my opinion is great because it provides nice photos without too much sharepning and other post useless post processing.

I had the Z for a brief moment and It feels really fragile and I'm afraid the battery won't last long, but of course there are the moto mods and the battery mod and other which will expand it and make the phone usable in nearly every condition.

I only saw the OPO3 in someones hand and heard mixed opinions on it.

Huawei phones are nice in the photo department but the video sucks balls. Also P9 looks not so good and bothe of the Huawei phones have not so good os on them in my opinion.

I would like to here some opinions on the phones from people that used or use the phones I mentioned or from somebody that can suggest something else.
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I would discard that Moto Z - No jack, no LED diode and it's quite useless if you don't use those Moto Mods. HTC 10 and One Plus 3 has quite good developer support here on XDA (ROMs etc.) and have the best UI (IMO close to stock) out of them. I think Huawei is not a bad choice, but I would prefer One Plus 3 or HTC 10 (I don't like the UI of Huawei and it's hard to build a ROM on Huawei).

So If I were you, I would take One Plus 3 over HTC 10 (cheaper and better specs) but HTC has better sound and maybe support (updates etc.)
[General Topics] wrbl:
And this is the problem with Poland. I can get HTC 10 for around 1000-1400 PLN and the OnePlus3 is around 1600 PLN. I know it's weird I think the same but that's just how it works here ;/ same for the Huawei phones I can get the P9 for around 1200 I even saw one for 650 and the Honor 8 is around 1400 if you want to buy it now not by auction. I don't want to even mention the Honor 8 Pro because the price is so high I don't know if I want to cry:crying: or to laugh:laugh:.

Oh and 1$ is around 3,75PLN according to google.
[General Topics] djdelarosa25:
Looking for a phone around $300-$350

I'm not asking for a lot, just good specs for the price and stock Android out of the box with good software update support. Another bonus would be for the device to have a nice modding community here in XDA for lots of custom ROM's and kernels.
[General Topics] maintainyourride:
Has anyone tried the Xiaomi Mi phones in the US? I've got a few of their products like the Xiaofang that I've hacked to work and its pretty good quality for the price.
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I think Moto phones are really good for that price :). Check out Moto G5 / G5 Plus and other Moto's. They all have stock Android ---> good support here and they look quite good... Specs should be decent.
[General Topics] 4r44444:
I search for a cheap smartphone which can get much better by finetune it in Kernel or with custom ROM... I hope you understand my question Greetings

Also:

I search for a nice smartphone with a strong diplay... possible cheap... I saw the MOTO X FORCE which has a Display which can't break but it's too expensive to me... are there any low budget (maybe china?) smartphones with a strong display... should protect me from glass break by falling... (maybe also) waterproof?

Thanks Greets
[General Topics] Victoria Sparks:
Huawei mate 9 is what I am currently using.
[General Topics] djdelarosa25:
Is the G4 Plus still worth buying? Moto G5 Plus ain't available in my country. I asked their Facebook page and they said that there is no word yet of availability (Moto PH is very late at releasing new devices locally).

Other options are Moto M, J7 Prime, J7 Pro, and Honor 6X.
[General Topics] Vovan2k:
I work in ride-share and need a concealed video registration so i am using my phone, however night quality is terrible when lights are off in the car, all i see is street lights.

Could you give me few android phone models that have good low light performance for front camera (face camera), not very expensive ones.

Optional i'd like to have front camera record horizontally wide video when phone is in vertical position (video orientation, 90 degree opposite to the screen orientation).
[General Topics] Tlamir123:
mate9 vs mi 6

mate 9 and mi 6 almost same price in my country which should i buy?
[General Topics] Mastermind8087:
NOKIA 6 or MOTO G5 plus or any other??

guys i need some suggestions on buyin my first android . i have a budget of Rs 17,000

i need a slowmo camera in it (upto 60fps at 1080)

4gb ram

and 64gb internal or 32gb internal(but then it should be expandable)

thanks!
[General Topics] force70:
I dont know what an R is but the 2 best phones out right now are the s8 and htc u11.

Followed by the G6 and OP5..

Note 8 to drop soon also within 2 mos and the note FE just released yesterday but is overpriced online right now

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] Waleslie:
Okay. So I bought an HTC 10 through Sprint online. I had to sign up for service, but will cancel that. No that I have the phone, what do I need to do? Should I do the Sunshine unlock bootloader thing first or transfer the phone to Verizon first?

Do I need to take the phone in to Verizon to switch it over or can I just swap the SIM cards myself?
[General Topics] BadUsername:
Nice!

Ya, sunshine first, then see if a sim works, if it doesn't follow the guide to convert it to a Verizon phone. Should work great.

---------- Post added at 10:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:50 PM ----------

Edit: you don't need to tell Verizon you have it, they gave no business knowing what phone you're actually using.
[General Topics] Tlamir123:
Help me guys in my country mi6 and mate 9 is same price what should i buy mi6 is newer powerful sd835 mate 9 big screen metal body leica dual camera :confused::confused:
[General Topics] force70:
I couldn't live with the tiny screen despite the Mi6 being newer....way too small.

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] Tlamir123:
ok i,ll use my phone like 4year i think. it must be durable phone but im thinking kirin 960 give me a error in future ? or cant find good rom in future? (sorry for my bad english)
[General Topics] force70:
I think the kirin is pretty rock solid...the mate 9 is a very well built device.

Huawei quality had come a long way in recent years....

Your english seems fine to me also :thumbup:

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] Waleslie:
So SunShine tells me I need to root to run SunShine and refers me to HYCDev.com to root my device. HTCDev.com seems to indicate it can unlock by bootloader (presumably without S-Off). Is that all I really need? I just want to be able to flash custom recoveries and custom ROMS. For $25, does SunShine and S-OFF give me some advantage over HTCDev.com just unlocking my bootloader? Can I do that now and SunShine later if I need it?
[General Topics] force70:
This is totally the wrong forum for this type of question.

You need to go to the Q&A section in the forum for the specific device and ask this there

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] BadUsername:
If you can unlock your bootloader through HTC dev you're good to go. But you need s-off to be able to change certain things.

HTC gets a bit tricky here, you can unlock your bootloader and have s-on, but you're going to be limited in what you can and can't flash. I can't remember specifically, but I'm pretty sure if you need to flash another radio at some point you're going to need s-off. But if you throw a Verizon sim in and it works then you should be fine. S-off is basically just a security flag, but there's benefits to having it off instead of on in case something goes wrong.
[General Topics] Tlamir123:
Thanks i think ill do with mate 9:victory:
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Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge vs S8 vs LG G6? S7 Edge is around 550€, same for LG G6. S8 would cost 600€. Or should I get instead HTC 10 which is 450€ so a lot cheaper but are the older specs enough? I game a lot (especially Real Racing 3 etc.) so is the performance fine on HTC 10? Or should I pay more for those above?
[General Topics] force70:
I would go for the S8 (make sure its exynos and not snapdragon) or G6...preference being the S8 of course as the G6 runs an outdated processor from last year.

The HTC U11 would be nice also and its better than the G6 in several ways but does have some big ugly bezels (which is about the only negative thing about it).

Wouldn't waste money on the HTC 10 or S7 edge at this point....they are outdated. But if for some odd reason you want an old phone s7 edge over the 10 easily.

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] :
Cool thanks for the reply! I see you are a S8 user (S8+ but it doesn't matter), are you satisfied with it? Is the audio ok (not earphones)? I listen to music a lot and it would be great if the audio would be at least slightly above average. Is the bloatware too much? Cuz Samsung is known for it - can it be uninstalled or at least blocked?
[General Topics] force70:
Its not bad the audio...better than my s7 edge for sure and pretty good for an IP68 rated device.

I have an exynos factory unlocked model so no carrier bloat and the remaining crap can be blocked with a package disabler it if your rooted removed entirely.

Its a great device and im quite happy with it...if course i did just order an note FE ( new note 7) so im not completely in love with it. Miss my note 7 so had to jump at the chance to nab another one.

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] zelendel:
Being last years chip really doesnt mean alot. The updates are so minor that you really wouldnt know the difference and there isn't any real world use difference. Heck I know whole teams that are skipping all devices from this year as it is not really an update. Updating every year is no longer really even needed outside of shwoing off how much money someone can waste.
[General Topics] force70:
Well....if your planning on buying a new device right now (for whatever reason) why buy one with older hardware when you can get one with whats current? Makes no sense to me really unless there is something specific about that device you really like.

Ive had 820 (i know G6 is 821) equipped devices and ive had an 835 device and there is a difference.. not leaps and bounds difference but as we say in the car world...faster is faster lol. Also battery usage must also be considered as each gen of SoC brings better efficiency.

And I just bought a year old device so true its not always about the latest and greatest even though as you say i like to see how much money i can waste by updating yearly...and in some cases like this year,multiple times per year.. lol.

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] BadUsername:
Price wise it makes sense, you can buy a brand new HTC 10 for $240 from Sprint (I think $400 on their website). A new s8 runs you $700 or more? (I think) a used s7 wouldn't even be that cheap.

Buying an older device makes sense if you can score a good deal on it, latest and greatest isn't always your best value. And if you want to talk system efficiency, the best battery life you can get is in mid range devices with weaker chips. You can easily get 2 days out of them with good use.

Some brands are also more developer friendly, something else to think about.

I dislike Samsung because I really hate TouchWiz, but their hardware is amazing. But being open to other devices, there's lots out there that give you a greater value than specs alone. Most apps and games aren't coded to take advantage of multiple cores anyway, you really wouldn't notice much difference between this year's and last year's devices. The way the CPU operates in Android is the same unless someone codes for it. "Faster speed" isn't tied solely to the CPU, but the entire soc in general. Apple for instance has a far weaker CPU, a dual core processor, but how is it still fast? Tight integration and in house production.

Only phone I'm looking forward to this year is the pixel 2, hoping Google can find some way to integrate everything better and make a really efficient device. Might take Android to a new level.

Anyway just wanted to throw my 2 cents in, but ya, new flagships this year aren't a big enough jump to justify the price IMO. Last year's devices with good development are a great buy right now.
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So is it enough to buy f. e. HTC 10 from last year? I don't change devices that much so I would like to make it last at least more than 2 years :)
[General Topics] -totonio-:
I see that you're talking about samsung, htc etc.. What do you say about a lenovo zuk z2 or similar china phones having a qualcomm SoC?

I'm just thinking to buy a device with 4gb of ram 64 of rom and a snap 820 at 200€, or less.
[General Topics] force70:
Definitely agree about devices being developer friendly and thats something that always is priority for me.

As far as looking for best value i never purchase anything that way, i wont settle for anything other than what i want despite that usually costing more money. Life is too short to compromise on things like that. Dont settle for whats cheapest or a good deal...just get want you really want. Unless the 2 are the same thing rhen your good lol.

True about battery life being better on the mid range stuff ...but then your stuck on a mid range device- no thank you sir!

The pixel 2 should be interesting and I hope they dont screw it up again this year, last year was the first time in a long time i passed on a google phone...

Google has the opportunity to do something really innovative this year and with the note 8 looking to be amazing and even the iphone 8 looking to set the bar high....they had better deliver this year.
[General Topics] ZioBillo87:
I desidered galaxy note 2! :)
[General Topics] mclovin221:
or the new nexus
[General Topics] mclovin221:
Does anyone know when one is due?
[General Topics] shimp208:
The new nexus or nexi will be announced on October 29 :thumbup:
[General Topics] stamatis:
If it come to my country and its not that expensive I may buy this phone too;)
[General Topics] tdubl:
The new nexus
[General Topics] volcaicstrad37:
Next Nexus if on Verizon and LTE I don't think we will know until the 29th or the 5" HTC whenever it comes to verizon
[General Topics] ash123456678:
Definitely next nexus or Padphone 2
[General Topics] Gus_ArcS:
I think i'll buy a nexus . The fact of get all google's updates in the moment is enaugh for me. Now I have an Xperia Arc S, its a good device with an excelent screen, but sony has announced that it will stayed on ICS...

Enviado desde mi Xperia Arc S usando Tapatalk 2.
[General Topics] whidix:
I have in mind the iPhone 5... But now I'm really happy whith my Galaxy S plus with MIUI... Also probably a Xiaomi phone will be great to be my next smartphone... If finally comes to Europe...

Enviado desde mi Galaxy S Plus
[General Topics] Faux Carnival:
Probably Lumia 920. If I can't find one, Nexus.
[General Topics] aenima73:
Galaxy Ace II
[General Topics] kwbr:
Nexus S still going strong and the next device will definitely be a Nexus again!
[General Topics] abhibhp:
Probably Nokia Lumia 920 or any other WinMo, unless BB comes with something very AWESOME!
[General Topics] fatfox001:
i want a moto atrix 2, cause it has manly design
[General Topics] rtcampos:
a $200-$250 smartphone, quad, possibly no more than 4" in screen, dual sim.
[General Topics] Shreqg2:
Of course Samsung Galaxy SIII :D
[General Topics] knightridrr:
Next Nexus phone (with SD card slot)

I love nexus series and i will definitely buy next nexus phone (provided it has SD card slot other current galaxy nexus is serving well for me)... :laugh:
[General Topics] funkbuqet:
I recently got the Galaxy S3 (Sprint) and I love it! Currently running it on Phantom Hackers Jelly Blazed ROM.
[General Topics] akakai:
I've had the galaxy s3 since it was released on Verizon. We will see what new Nexus phone comes out in 2 years lol.

Or maybe i will sell this one in the future and get a new one sooner than that.
[General Topics] zelendel:
Because the currant hardware is not much of an upgrade from say last years. The upgrades are so small that it really doesnt matter a whole lot.

A perfect example is the fact that I just got a new device myself within the past week. Could I have gotten one of the latest flagships? Sure but why when you can get a device from last year and it will run just as fast or in some cases midrange devices out shine the soo called flagships.

As for the battery. Well That all comes down to individual use. It doesnt matter the device. As an example is I can kill any battery on any device in less then 4 hours and that is with light use, So unless it has a 10,000 mah battery the chip will not make much of a difference.

To each their own but upgrading every year really makes no sense. Not at this point in the game. Cell phones are becoming pretty much like laptops.
[General Topics] juanq214:
I just got a new Samsung galaxy note 5 for $250 dollars. What a deal! I was gonna go for mate 9 but this baby came into my way. At first boot it gave me ota update to Nougat.

Basically the phone is great. Camera is amazing, the screen resolution is out of this world, and the multitasking has improved a lot with Nougat (heard some complains when it was running Android 5.1).

The downside is the small battery, specially with such huge 4k screen, and the lack of SD card slot. But I can live with it. Hopefully I'll stick with this baby for a while.
[General Topics] force70:
Note 5 was one of my fav devcies...Id still have mine if I didnt run out of storage on it. Thats one of sammys most idiotic decisions removing the sd slot/not offering more than 64gb of internal storage on a note device.

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] Nazha_Ember:
I have offers on S8+, but not on the One Plus I wanted... Should I change ?

Hello ladies and gentlemen,

I'm switching from my Sony Z3 Compact to something a bit more new, and I was looking for your advices, not only on the model as such, but on the different price tags I can have.

My service provider (SFR in France) proposes the Galaxy S8+ at 392€ (450$) or the Xperia XZ Premium at 193€ (219$) all included (no more charges on the subscription or whatsoever).

However I'm a really huge fan of the One Plus new flagships (3T and 5) but they don't have it.

In my country, reminder, the 3T is at 380€ (64go) or 420€ (128go) (both respectively 433$ and 480$)

and the 5 is at 440€ (6go RAM 64go) or 520€ (8go RAM 128go) (both respectively at 500$ and 590$)

So basically (+tl;dr) is my beloved One Plus 5 worth the extra 130€ compared to the S8+ ?

Or is my beloved One Plus 3T worth the extra 30€ compared to the S8+ ?

Or should I settle to the Galaxy S8+ even if it's not my brand nor predilection model ?

Thanks a lot for your future answers !

On the question "why am I such a fan of One Plus ?" well I like their OS, their batteries and camera, and on top of all their design and the brand's image and trust I have in them !

Thanks again !
[General Topics] force70:
Simply put you would have to be crazy to pay more for a OP5 than an S8+. The OP5 is just missing too many features to even be put in the same class as the S8+ .

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] Nazha_Ember:
Well that seems objective ;)

Jokes aside, I see what you mean

So the S8+ is really above the OP5 in a lot of aspects ?

I've never been a huge fan of Samsung but I might consider...
[General Topics] force70:
Lol....yeah I can see how that looks haha...

Well its not that the OP5 isnt a good device it is, but its supposed to be less expensive than other flagships not more lol.

Lets see....OP5 is missing from the top of my head:

no sd card option

no water resistance

nowireless charging

Small 5.5" screen thats only 1080p (which i personally i am fine with)

Camera reviews are so so...nothing special about it unfortunately

Theres probably more but i havent looked at it in depth. But paying more money for less features is never a good idea lol.

And not that it affects functionality at all but one boring colour pretty much and big ugly bezels (outdated design basically for 2017).

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] Nazha_Ember:
OK so all things considered my S9+ at 450$ seems a pretty good deal ?

The only thing bothering me is Samsung OS layer and the fingerprint scanner

Also, the photo on OP5 seemed really nice, and I was in the somewhat "hype" of the brand too !
[General Topics] force70:
Thats a great deal...I paid $1200 for mine lol (CAN $).

The fingerprint scanner is somewhat annoying but you do get used to it.
[General Topics] Nazha_Ember:
Thanks a lot for your input ! :)
[General Topics] BetterBPrepared:
Not sure how important customizing your device with custom ROMs is to you, but let's not forget that Samsung really tries to control/lock down their devices. The S8 does look like a great device when you look at the hardware, but unlocking the bootloader and flashing custom ROMs isn't going to be as easy as it is for some of the other devices. Just do a search on XDA for any model before you buy it to get an idea of what kind of development is going on, if that is important to you.
[General Topics] Nazha_Ember:
Thanks !

I just need to root it for ads block, background playback on youtube and that kind of stuff, I'm happy with the stock rom and all beyond that !

Is that possible ?
[General Topics] force70:
Bootloader is not locked on the exynos. Root and roms been out since the 1st week the device was out.

Only the snapdragon is useless in this regard but its very good advice as you said to check on the model before you buy it with samsung products since the S7's came out.

S7: exynos and unlocked in Canada, europe, asia snapdragon in the US and not overly development friendly.

Note 7: Exynos and unlocked in Europe and asia. Snapdragon in Canada and US and locked.

S8: same as note 7

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] DamagedEngine:
OnePlus 5?

Hello guys!

I haven't used smartphones extensively before, even through I consider myself to be relatively tech-savvy. I have done a custom PC build and also some experimentation with Linux and it's command line interface, so the smartphone modding scene shouldn't be overwhelming.

However, I feel like it's time for me to buy a smartphone, but one of my primary concerns is preserving the modding freedom inherent in PCs. The phone that really caught my eye is the OnePlus 5. It is a high performance phone, and the company is open to modding; They allow it in the warranty and also freely distribute their factory default ROM's.

Since I am seriously considering buying the phone, I would like to hear your opinions on the OnePlus 5 as a first-time purchase, especially for modding oriented users.

Thanks in advance.
[General Topics] force70:
OP devices have historically had great development behind them, im sure that will continue on the 5.

Sure its missing some features like on an S8 plus etc but its also alot cheaper.

If development is your main concern the OP5 or Pixel XL are your best bets

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[General Topics] Lisali:
Hi all!

I need to upgrade my LG G4 and I'm looking at a few options - but none of them seem to have everything I'd want in a phone.

I'm looking at 5.2-5.7'' devices.

Musts:

Great camera with lots of detail/bokeh.

Good screen

Good battery life

Rootable

Google services/apps

Important:

LED notification light

Water/dust resistant

QuickCharge 3 or 4

OIS

LG G6 seems great, but it does not have a LED notification light.

Nubia Z17 has dual cameras that sound promising, but no OIS or Google services.

Samsung S8 is way too expensive, and that non-functioning Bugsby button seems annoying.

Suggestions? Ideas? Thank you!