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[General Topics] SirVer:
Personally, I would go for the P8, because 2 GB RAM is not enough these days, especially when you're paying that much. However, graphics performance is rather poor on the P8, and EMUI doesn't have that same butter smooth feel as stock Android. Not to mention after market modding, which is obviously far more difficult on the P8.

Frankly, if I had $375, I wouldn't be looking at either of them; I'd be considering the Xperia Z3/Z4, LG G4, ZTE Axon line or the OnePlus Two. Are these not an option where you live?
[General Topics] preclajsz:
Well, this is just offer for me in my job. So i can have these phones with this prices. I love pure android, i had 2 nexus devices. But this is not as good as was N5. Love P8, but i am little bit worry, than i can customize this phone as i was used on nexus devices... :/ It's difficult to choose
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
2GB not enough these days ? Of course that's wrong. People still use devices with 1.5gb and have no problem , 2GB is more than enough for most users and do the job. Especially when it's running stock android with no skin , it's even better. Take a look at the nexus 5 , from 2013 and still buttery smooth , my S5 running temasek is blazing fast , in my opinion , 2GB/3GB is more than enough for a smartphone.
[General Topics] SirVer:
I agree - 5X was a disappointment after the original 5.

If you've owned Nexuses before, then you should probably stay away from the P8, since its dev scene is almost non-existent; even if the 5X has only 2 GB of RAM, at least you'll have the freedom to make the mods you need to make it work for you.

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I meant that it's not enough when you're paying that much - perhaps I didn't phrase it as well as I should have. And I know just how well 2 GB can work, I'd been using a 2 gig device up until a couple of months ago. However, while 2 is certainly sufficient, I would never say it's more than enough, especially since apps are getting heavier and heavier every day; as someone who uses Chrome on my phone almost as much I do on my computer, the ability to keep 10 tabs in memory without reloading is amazing, especially after using a 2 gig device.
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
What about the new Sony phones? Does anybody can tell me some facts?
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Stock Android doesn't use that much ram, and all phones have some amount of minor lag.

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http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_mwc_2016-review-1386.php

And they revived the X series name from mp3 line up lol
[General Topics] SirVer:
They do, but if people that review phones all the time are specifically pointing out lag on a device, it stands to reason that it's because it's more than usual. Apps these days are too heavy for multitasking to handle like a flagship (and I do consider the 5X to be a flagship, just not a high end one) on 2 gigs. Soon, even 3 may not be enough. Personally, I felt like the only reason Google did this was to make another point of differentiation from the 6P, one more likely to catch the eye of people not as knowledgeable about this stuff.
[General Topics] preclajsz:
Well P8 has 3GB ram... :/ and marshmallow
[General Topics] force70:
Yes front facing speakers are a must, ive grown so used to them on my nexus 6 and 6P..my notes sound like crap next to them.

Another miss for LG.

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[General Topics] SirVer:
It also has EMUI - custom skins are always RAM heavy. Don't get me wrong, if you think it would do the job for you, it's a great choice; it's just that as someone who's going to it from a Nexus, the lack of flexibility might be a nasty shock for you. I've handled it in store, and it seems fine, though one thing that bugs me about all Huawei phones is that the recents button press animation always frameskips. ALWAYS. I've heard other stories about stuff like that, which made Huawei devices unappealing to me unless I'd be able to flash a ROM. Depends on what you feel would fit you best, in the end.
[General Topics] preclajsz:
Well, i am one leg for N5X. To be honest, i will have just gmail, calendar, weather, fb messenger, whatsapp always sync on. And use are regular user i guess.
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
so you don't even need nexus 5x its enough for nexus 5 lol or even nexus 4 if you will have just these apps.
[General Topics] zelendel:
Can't say much. I have the nexus 6 (not the 6p) and I am down to only needing 5 apps outside of the default gapps. Most apps are for wasting time and we'll that is too important to waste.
[General Topics] preclajsz:
Don't take my word. I sold N5, so now i am looking for new one. I just wanted to help with decission...
[General Topics] SirVer:
In that case, I think the 5X is the best option for you. P8 will do these things just as well, but with the Nexus you'll have good dev support, making it a little more future proof.
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Yeah that is true. Didn't make much sense as to why the Nexus 5x only has 2 GB of ram when phones in it's price range has 3 lol
[General Topics] the-spea76:
Maybe the last Huawei mate......
[General Topics] drewtenn:
Anyone have a list of tablets that have full support for Android's Camera2 API? I'm looking for big name brands only.

I know of two, Nexus 9 and Nvidia Shield.

Any others?
[General Topics] dredq:
Samsung S7 and S7 edge are now out. Does anyone know if there will be a difference in development between the 2 phones. I know they are new but based on the S6 and S6 edge any predictions? How about development with the LG G5? I have been on the LG G2 which I have loved. Thanks
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Snapdragon 820 variants will have much better developpement , like previous samsung flagships ( S6 , S5 , S4..etc ) , exynos variants have less android developpement due to exynos sources... G5 same thing it has the S820 and i guess it will have a lot of roms .
[General Topics] zelendel:
Depending on the carrier and how locked down it is (knox). Just have to wait and see. Most have given up on development for Samsung devices. Many of the developers that I know are skipping both devices and waiting on the new Nexus to come out or looking at the sony device.
[General Topics] myawan:
S6 didnt have any snapdragon variant. S7 snapdragon version should have better development.
[General Topics] dredq:
How bad is verizon in USA? Any idea when the new nexus is released?
[General Topics] s8freak:
Locked bootloader = zero development

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

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[General Topics] dredq:
My understanding with the LG G2 they were able to use Loki and bump to get past this.... I know very little about development with Samsung....I know I should read the forums..... I know that knox has caused all kind of problems but I thought there was away around this.... Am I mistaken? Thanks
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Yeah you're right , my bad
[General Topics] force70:
The G2 yes.

The G3 had less development only the D851 was unlocked and eventually others got a work around the G4 even less than that only the 815 and 811 unlockable all others locked down....dont know if they even have root?

..in the G2 days things were easier to crack. Not now and LG loves to lock their bootloaders.

I refuse to support any company that locks down their devices without providing the ability to unlock. If I drop $800-$1000 on a device I damn sure better be able to do what I want with it

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[General Topics] dredq:
I literally was about to buy an S7 edge. Thank you. This is really helpful in what phone to buy, or not . So LG G5 will be locked down tight as well? And Samsung S7's will have problems without an unlocked bootloader and with knox. Any idea which one will be better for development? Or does this just leave Sony and Nexus for phone development.
[General Topics] force70:
Ive never seen a bootloader locked sammy device other than on at&t and verizon..knox has zero impact on flashing and modding, it has not slowed me down on bit one my note 3,4 or 5.

The exynos in the note 5 has as expected slowed down development in comparison to the snapdragon devices because its closed source. The new sammy devices are snapdragon 820 so there should be alot of development.

Hard to say about the G5 whether or not it will be locked without the ability to unlock yet.with the G3 and G4 it was hit and miss which devices could be unlocked or were already unlocked. LG has taken alot of flack from the dev community on its policies but i doubt they care since we are the minority.

I used to be the guy who always bought devices the day they were available, i dont do that now because we just dont know what state of lock down they will be in.samsung devices here in Canada are never bootloader locked so I don't worry there...thats about it. Sony,HTC, LG...all questionable.

I have little interest in htc or sony but i def would not buy an LG device before waiting to see if its unlockable.

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[General Topics] s8freak:
You of all people don't need any more devices you've got like 13 or 14 laying around LOL
[General Topics] force70:
Lol, one more never hurts...gota keep myself occupied during winter :D

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[General Topics] Planterz:
Finally I have a Nexus 6 64gb coming my way. I got tired of waiting for another Amazon sale that might never happened and picked one up off Swappa for only a few bucks more (when you figure in the tax Amazon adds). I can't wait to get this beast in my hands.
[General Topics] karier13:
I have a Samsung Note 3 and tho I love the phone I hated Knox. As far as I have heard you cannot get around Knox. So because of that if you root/flash a custom Rom that will trip the Knox counter and it can't be reset. So if you take it back to your carrier for whatever reason if they want to they can check to see if you have flashed a rom. I didn't want to lose warranty so didn't flash until my warranty was over. Now have custom CM 13 rom on. I am going for a Nexus for my next phone. No more Samsung and really want a pure android phone.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
You mean the 6p ? :D
[General Topics] obscuresword:
You still have warranty on a Note 3? Thought it only lasted like a year?

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It's his hobby so it's fine lol.
[General Topics] Planterz:
Motorola Nexus 6. $340 brand new. I'm not hugely interested in the 6P, unless for some reason I don't like the 6. I wanted something significantly bigger than my OPO. I'd probably be content with a 5.7" screen, but I'd prefer bigger. My dream phone would be a new Sony Z (or X, if that's what they're calling them now) with 6.4", dual front speakers, and waterproofness. But they haven't made one, and the closest is the C5 Ultra, but it's a mid-ranger with a MediaTek (and costs more than a Nexus 6).
[General Topics] s8freak:
I've got my Gold Sammy S7 Edge ordered woohoo

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

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[General Topics] Marko Indaco:
Find it!

Come to my previous post to inform that i found a good (i hope) phone for my likes: ZTE Blade Apex 2 - 99 euro (home-shipping costs included). Arrives today. I will try it for 2 weeks then i will install the TWRP and start to test some roms. I will post in the dedicated Forum my experiments with the roms. See ya :cool:
[General Topics] timonoj:
What do you guys think between the S7 and the G5? I wanted a phone with not a huge screen (near 5.3", as my current S6), with at least 3GB of RAM, and mandatory removable SD. I was rather disappointed with the offerings until the S7 and the G5. I've so far bought Samsung mostly (except for my Nexus One, my first smartphone...near its second year it just turned off to never turn on again). I'm rather curious about the expandable slot of the G5 and of course attracted by the replaceable battery. But the S7 is water proof, which is cool (and I go to swimming pools/sea often), and they just announced it includes their VR Gear in the package for the same price, which is unexpected and unasked, but still rather cool. On the other hand I'm pissed they both offer half assed SD support, and probably I'll have to wait for a root/hack to enable full Android 6 app installation on the SD.

So...What would you consider? What do you guys think?
[General Topics] Lorenz15:
Xiaomi Mi5 released and it is incredible! High specs and low price, do you think it comes to Europe?
[General Topics] force70:
Awesome device, excellent choice Planterz.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6

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Just given how ugly the G5 is Id pass on it but the fact that the bootloader will likely be locked makes it a no go...unless you dont care about development but since your here I will assume you do.

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[General Topics] SirVer:
I just saw how much the Mi5 is selling for: $260?! Are you f**king kidding me?! How in God's name did they manage to cram all that oomph into something that costs less than some mid-rangers?! I keep looking for some place they cut corners on, but they even switched from eMMC to UFS! There HAS to be a catch here somewhere, right?

EDIT: Found it. Looks like it actually starts at $300, and has no card slot. 32 gigs without an SD card? Nuh uh. Still, 64 GB model for 350? Sets the standard high for OnePlus this year. [emoji57]

Also, can anyone confirm if the 32/64 models have UFS? Or is that only for the 128?
[General Topics] obscuresword:
Looking forward to the name change lol. Glad they brought back the SD cards for those who want it and made the device thicker for the bigger battery.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Now if someone can find a root process all will be good

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

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[General Topics] force70:
Did you go international again?

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
Plot Twist: after you get your phone, you will see a discount on amazon.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Nah can't afford $1100 bucks for a new device so I just upgraded my ATT

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

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[General Topics] IAmLucky:
S7

>More popular than g5

>only sd820 version will be rootable/cutom romable hopefully if not fully bloatwared

>best display currently in the market

>SD card

>non removable battery

>waterproof

>touchwizz

>4gb ram

>best camera currently

G5

>not as popular as s7

>a lot of people says its ugly (IMO front looks nice, only back with dual camera looks bad)

>modular design which can add a lot of features later (removable battery)

>4gb ram

>sd820 might be promising us custom ROM support, so that's very good.

nothing more special.

Samsung wins against lg g5 in my opinion. But when it comes to custom Roms - I don't know yet, if you will order SD820 version, you might get support for custom Roms. But for exynos version is very minimal chance.

I would also suggest you to try fastest phone currently in the market Sony xperia x performance. Fast and smooth trust me. The only one problem I currently see is price. If it is priced 550 euros or something around that will be totally worth it. If its more, then go for something else. But as I love performance and speed I would buy Sony x performance for 550 euros. Z series ends in z5p so no more z series in the future.

>Ips lcd 5" FHD display

>3gb ram

>SD 820

>waterproof

>very good camera, not sure, maybe better than g5

>custom ROM looks promising as for lg g5

>SD card up to 200gb

>Only 32 GB version
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
[MENTION=5818374]IAmLucky[/MENTION] what do you mean by S7 more popular than G5 ? Lol. We don't have the sales numbers yet and LG is now one of the best brands on the market , there is no "Samsung=android" anymore.
[General Topics] s8freak:
I'd take Samsung S7 over LG any day as a matter if fact I just Pre-ordered my Gold S7 Edge yesterday

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

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[General Topics] myawan:
Between G5 and S7, S7 is an obviously better choice. It has bigger battery, better display, better camera, water proofing, better ergonomic design, better UI.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Just better overall

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

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[General Topics] Soufiansky:
I know , the S7 is better than G5 in my opinion , but we shouldnt ignore the fact that LG have great products too.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Agreed just not for me ??

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

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[General Topics] tpayne2345:
Nexus 5x user, battery just doesn't work for me. Tweaked it as much as I can with kernel changes but as much as I talk, text, snapchat, email all day, by 6-7pm I'm running for my charger.

GS7 is an option but only if CM/AOSP is in the picture too. G5 just looks terrible, can't see myself throwing money at it. So what else is there besides waiting for the fall phones?
[General Topics] SirVer:
It's always weird when I see such heavy anticipation for a Samsung, because the Samsung Galaxy line has utterly failed to excite me for a long time now, mainly because I swore off of them years ago; it's gotten to the point that whenever I hunt for a phone, my mind automatically censors any Samsung devices from the list. My main three reasons:

1. Touchwiz. I don't care what anyone says, every time I pick it up to give it another shot, I just end up reminding myself why I hate it. Of course, they're not the only ones with a hideous UI (*cough*LG*cough), but at least I can change the other ones, which brings me to...

2. Dev support. I don't think I have to elaborate any further. Sure, the SD devices will probably be OK, but Knox is still a thing. Of course, there are probably workarounds, and I don't mind struggling a bit if I learn something in the process, but Samsung's attitude towards it just pisses me off.

My main reason, however, is this:

3. I do not have the words to describe how much I LOATHE the physical home button. To me, it just destroys the entire look of the device, and I don't understand why it's still a thing. Just... Ugh.

I... Am not entirely sure why I said all this. Maybe it's because it's been a while since I did an anti-Samsung rant. Well, at least that's out of my system now. [emoji28]

P.S. The above rant is not intended to insult anyone, or provoke anything, except perhaps a nice debate. No offense is intended.
[General Topics] s8freak:
I love the home button T/W is extremely stable build quality is tops Knox doesn't bother me at all camera is the best the beauty of the device is second to none.

I can't STAND buggy ASOP and for the members who say it's stable all I have to say is you must not be reading any of the threads. There is bugs in every build.

And of course that's all my humble opinion since I've admitted to be an unashamed Sammy Fanboy LOL

Although I really love my OPX that little device is superb especially for the price. I'll never sell that phone it rocks.

"These pretzels are making me thirsty!!"

Sent from my Rockin G928C
[General Topics] Planterz:
Apart from Apple, Samsung probably has the most "loyal" fans. They expect the physical home button and the capacitive nav keys and don't want to try anything different than what they're used to. That might be why LG is switching back to a more normal placement of power/volume buttons on the G5 (it could be a hardware arrangement issue too), as maybe they think the rear buttons were scaring too many people away.

The "look" of it doesn't bother me at all. I personally prefer physical/capacitive buttons over on-screen, although I have no issue with those.
[General Topics] SirVer:
I can't really comment on the stability of AOSP, since the only pure AOSP build I've used is the original Lollipop build that was ported over from the Xperia Z to the ZR, that somehow had none of the bugs that Nexus users were reporting. I tend to use custom ROMs more, and the more established ones tend to have very few bugs that show up in daily usage, so it's a trade off I happily make.

Have to disagree on the beauty thing; while it does look amazing (except for the home button, for me), the most beautiful smartphone I've ever seen/held would probably be the M8. Actually, HTC stuff generally looks and feels better than most other things, up until the M9, anyway. Ah well, it's all subjective anyway.

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I'm OK with capacitative, as long as I can turn off the backlight for them and they don't stick out too much while I switch to on-screen. I just love the flexibility you get with virtual keys: you can have cursor keys, extra buttons, swipe up menu, etc etc.
[General Topics] s8freak:
Indeed it is LOL
[General Topics] Planterz:
Amazon doesn't even list it anymore (just 3rd party re-sellers). They've been "temporarily out of stock" before, but I've never seen it removed from their own sales before (and I've been checking daily for months).
[General Topics] IAmLucky:
because one known guy working in one carriers store told that 2 days ago 22 people came to order s7 and 0 people lg g5. Sure that's weird comparison in popularity but it is more popular. Check gsmarena devices, it has click tracker, s7 = 3 million clicks while g5 has 1 million clicks. So yeah.

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Yes. And just yet we don't know how much lg g5 will cost. If its cheaper like 100 euros than s7 then it is hard to compare which one is better in terms of price to quality ratio
[General Topics] Trilback:
I have an opportunity to get a Samsung galaxy s5 or a Samsung galaxy note 3. I currently have the s5 on loan from my friend but want to know from your guys experience which phone you guys like better as I am in need of another used phone. (Long Story why I can't get a new one). This phone must last me a few years or more.
[General Topics] Cyanandroid:
i will suggest u to buy s5.

its cheaper and better with lots of custom support out there...
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Galaxy S5 pros and cons :

+Waterproof and dust resistant

+Heart sensor

+Better camera

+Will get marshmallow in 1/2 months

+ Newer processor ( S801 )

+ Removable battery

+ Sd card slot

- A bit laggy

- Smaller than the note 3 but that's not a con , it differs based on users preferences.

Note 3 pros and cons :

+Big 5.7" 1080p display

+Bigger battery

+ Removable battery

+ Sd card slot

+3GB of ram

-No more software support

-Older processor (S800) but there no much difference to be honest.
[General Topics] Trilback:
I did notice today the the s5 lags a bit. The s5 and note 3 price wise is not at issue as my friend is going to sell me either. I just wanted to know from peoples experience what they though of either.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
[MENTION=4589149]Trilback[/MENTION] Yeah my current device is the S5 , and it lags a lot specially on LP update , i would say go for the S5 and i hope it will be smoother with marshmallow.
[General Topics] Planterz:
I'd go with the Note 3. The S5 might have a very slightly more powerful processor (2.5GHz SD801 vs 2.3GHz SD800), but they have the same GPU. More significantly, the Note 3 has 3GB RAM vs only 2GB with the S5, and with the heavy TouchWiz, that extra gig is a huge difference, much moreso than 200MHz in processor speed.
[General Topics] Trilback:
But I noticed the Camera is better on the s5 from what I can tell and I ready is does good in low light which I do sometimes.
[General Topics] Soufiansky:
Agree but you will miss waterproofing and significantly better camera.
[General Topics] Trilback:
What are you doing as far as normal use to notice it slowness? I have the latest OTA update.