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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
Lack of support = Samsung not giving 2 ****s about other countries and their new LTE standard.

The Exynos chip can support LTE 700mhz (Block C VZW) given Samsung creates a chip for it. It's not that they just cant, they just aren't.

EDIT: Also, this thread SUCKS and doesn't belong in Galaxy Nexus General. I believe the Galaxy S III has its

own

section now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
You must be talking about the INTERNATIONAL Galaxy S2. There are many variants of Galaxy S2 (T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint).

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1329

T-Mobile Galaxy S2:

Threads: 129

Posts: 51,481

Galaxy Nexus:

Threads: 137

Posts: 58,743

Also you are missing out on the fact that. Even though there are ROMs for phones who haven't received the latest Android OS update, development is still very much crippled due to the fact that there isn't a updated kernel for the ROM. Whereas, Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) will have a updated kernel (in this case... it'd be 3.0.X kernels)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Anyone arguing that a device will have a huge following before it is even announced, much less released, is the real idiot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
Not to mention the fact that the GSII/III will cease to have development at some point and the Nexus phones will live on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
This is EXACTLY what happened when I went from G1 -> Vibrant. G1 lasted for more than 2 years in terms of development. Development was dying, and all the ROMs were the same. All of them were based off TouchWiz and a lot of them were just themed TouchWiz. A lot of ROMs were based on TouchWiz and mimic'd its images and effects as AOSP but it wasn't AOSP.

And here's the information for AT&T Galaxy S2:

Threads: 118

Posts: 49,33

Sprint Galaxy S2:

Treads: 243

Posts: 103,644

International 9100 - Galaxy S2:

Threads: 304

Posts: 184,565

.. Galaxy Nexus already has a higher count than many of it's variants. And even though we have three variants, we are very much connected and it is easy to port for toro and maguro.

Yes, International Galaxy S2 has a bigger count than Galaxy Nexus but look at how long it's been out compared to Galaxy Nexus. It is just the beginning, this forum will just only get bigger and bigger. Development for Nexus devices will always be striving.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barondebxl:
Yes I was talking about the international Galaxy S2. You're right about the updated kernel thing but still, the galaxy line attracts lots of dev attention so you will get support.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Some people are never happy I see people posting about lag in the gnex forum lol n I sit here thinking wtf
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barondebxl:
Yea but personally I don't keep a phone for two years so I wouldn't worry about that. I usually buy a phone a few months after it gets release, enjoy it then sell it and move on to the next one. I think a lot of people are doing the same. But no question that nexus devices are great for development.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Well I know that U.S.A isn't the "world." But from an American standpoint, it'll be better for us to stick with Nexus devices because carriers screw us in the end.

@barondebxl: I try and stick with a phone for two years but with the massive development in phones' hardware. It's hard to stick with the same phone. But I think I'm going to be sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for awhile. It's specifications as it is is already amazing but I already know nexus 4 will be difficult. Especially if it's at a $400 price range once again vai Play Store.

My point on what I'm saying is that, "once a Nexus, always a Nexus." That's my quote and I'll stand by it :) I'll be a Nexus fanboy, it stands by what everybody in the XDA community want.

- Good dev support (ROM/Kernels)

- Latest updates via Google

- Latest hardware at the time[debatable.... since it's launch date is Q4 of the year]
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barondebxl:
Yea I know but for the one x it really is an issue right now as sense is just too much of a resource hog. I saw this vid on YouTube and this dude one x was reloading every time he was exiting an app. And as far as lag, let's say the nexus lags( which I don't think but just for the sake of argument) ,its a dual core vs the one x with all those cores and that tegra 3 GPU so you don't expect any lag there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mingkee:
Frankly, I will take a $400 advantage to get Galaxy Nexus.

SGS3? I am sure it will be around $600-700 without contract (way too expensive).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vash1053:
I'm never buying a non nexus phone ever again.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] droweed:
after sgs3 release. 6 mos later next nexus arrives..

I have these options:

- get the new nexus

- enjoy gnex update to jellybean

while if i get the sgs3:

- beg sammy to update. which they will. but ill get it next year 1st quarter

- flash bugged early jellybean aosp builds

I think its very clear
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simmo3D:
I will be holding off until they release the new Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zetsumeikuro:
Well in the US the LTE version will probably just be a s4 DC so no ty. Some sites are showing that it's just a dual core Exynos, and even if it kills in benches, who cares for every day use? If it was quad Exynos w/ LTE and NON pentile screen I would hit it raw. But then again... Once you go Nexus.. You never go back.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spywhite:
I will. I'll keep both phones but I'll really start mistreating the Nexus to see how much abuse it can sustain before It needs repair. Dunking it in water, mud, dropping it from apartment building balconies..etc..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zetsumeikuro:
What is this Wkndows 8 you speak of?

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Hey! Don't treat your smartphone like you treat your marriage/women/men (w/e it is you like). :D j/k.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ericshmerick:
The only temptation I cannot fight is the Nokia 808.

Don't hate. I'm a closet Symbian fanboy. Dat kamra...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
So how about that iphone5? May as well since we're discussing other phones.

teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alangrig:
I came from SGS2 and can verify that's hardware is fine, but software is piece of crap. The same gonna be about SGS3: great hardware ****ty software.

You gonna ask me why?

Well, Touchwiz is real outdated bull****. Latest update from Sammy Android 4 is not Android 4 it's hybrid version of 2.3 and 4.0.3. You can fill strong boundary between Sammy apps and Google apps. Just a small example: there is file manager in Sammy Stock ROM, it is only integrated with Sammy apps, meaning that in Gmail you won't be able to attach any files or attach any file for upload purpose in the Browser. However if you do install alternative file manager from market, Sammy apps won't cooperate with it, meaning that in Email.apk provided by Sammy you won't be able to attached any file via alternative file manager. And i can list many samples.

Devs support from Sammy is useless and is the worst ever.

You mentioned about CM9 on SGS2: have you tried it? It still has many glitches and it gonna take years to polish it. Yeah devs work hard, but it takes long, cause kernel being provided by Samsung has many blackboxes, so it means it will take decades to find workaround aka dirty hacks, which might have issues after workaround as well.

It means with Android 4 release on SGS2 (6 month later after inertial ICS release) Samsung already tided up software security policy and will tide it up stronger with upcoming SGS3, so Sammy behaves more and more in APPLE way, copying them in all departments.

Jeally beam is on the way. So SGS3 definitely will get it 6 month later with the same bloatware from Sammy.

Devs from teamhacksung have hinted already no support will be for SGS3, cause it's real headache. It took them to bring CM to SGS1 6 months. Even CM7 for SGS2 has unresolved issues, especially with audio.

In simple words: if wanna to experience clean Android, always to have latest software version and full devs support always go for Google phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] onthecouchagain:
I won't pretend I'm not interested. I'm excited to see what Samsung unveils. As far as I know, all the "leaks" have been debunked to some degree as fake (even the most recent one that looks like the GNexus with a front home button), so I'm anticipating May 3rd.

At the very least, I think it could be a good clue as to what the next Nexus might employ or look like, if Samsung indeed has, once again, gotten the go-ahead from Google to make the next Nexus.

I have to say, despite a few complaints, the Galaxy Nexus (GSM version on Tmobile) is the best smartphone I've owned.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] currentsupply:
It will be fast.

But its software will never be as good as the GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beeboss:
Great idea to discuss iPhone 5 I can teach you how to start a new thread here :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ph0tios:
I'm sure it will be awesome and all. And it's great if you have the money to constantly upgrade to a new device.

But I think it's silly when people start talking about how their nexus is sluggish and whatnot. It will probably be the same people 6 months from now talking about how their SGS3 is sluggish and ready to buy the new potential flagship phone.

I use to go through the addiction with upgrading PC parts, but it gets costly and tiresome. There will always be something better. Just get the most out of whatever you choose to buy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Archpope:
You can't spell "Galaxy Nexus" without S-E-X-Y

And I thought iPhone fanboys were hardcore. You guys are pretty serious about the value of "The Google Experience™" and how everything else just doesn't even matter. And I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking.

I'll just say it: The Galaxy Nexus is one of the sexiest phones I've ever seen, and certainly the sexiest I've ever owned. And part of that sexiness is that when it's off, it's just a sleek black rectangle. And the Google-ness of it does add a lot to that sexiness when it's on. The SGS3 may be more powerful on paper, but it definitely isn't as (and for how many times I've typed this word, I should just copypasta it) sexy. I'm also poor, and can really only afford to have one superphone at a time. So, 10% more phone in a less sexy package for twice the money off contract? Not really tempting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I'm of the school of thought that there really are just 2 phones to buy every year: the Google Nexus and the Apple iPhone. Everything else is just competing to be 2nd place to them.

But I think you're realizing what many of us have noticed, that there really is something about having a Nexus that blows the pants off of any other Android device. Its not just about hardware specs, its how the whole thing comes together. Its just even more apparent now with how great ICS is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordanprudent:
I do have a contract which comes for renewel in June, be hard for me to resist. But I love my nexus so ,ow decisions. Stick with my nexus I reckon, its been nothing but amazing so why change
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Up the screen size and make iOS a little less... extremely locked down and I'm game for that. Probably not gonna see the new iPhone till about September though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mackster248:
Honestly, no. The GN is the first phone I've owned where I feel absolutely comfortable passing up better phones that will come out. I'm 100% happy with the 4.65'' 720p SAMOLED+ screen, it's great external speakers, form factor, dev support, and even the specs! People tend to knock the GN's specs, but I mean seriously though, why strive to get the absolute best CPU/GPU when there's nothing out there that even remotely challenges it?

The best graphical game on the market plays perfectly fine on the GN, that says enough for me.

I'm sure all of us GN users can agree with my reasoning!

GN is a close to perfect phone! But Google, next time you better include an SD card slot. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mekrel:
My first experience of Android was back in April 2010 when I outright bought the HTC Desire, running Froyo and Sense. I tried a few AOSP Froyo and Gingerbread builds but within 20 minutes of trying them, I always restored my Sense Nandroid backups because stock Android was just so ugly and disjointed; even thought it was faster without the resource eating Sense.

I moved to the Galaxy SII and was amazed by the sheer speed, the screen (at the time) and I didn't really mind TouchWiz although it took me a while to adjust from sing HTC Sense.

Being a gadget geek and having to have the latest device all the time, I outright bought the Galaxy Nexus, sold the GT-I9100 and apart from the hit and miss Nexus camera, I've not looked back.

Ice Cream Sandwich is just refined, uniform and unique; Matias Duarte and the team really did a fantastic job with Android's new interface. My viewpoint of stock Android really looking amateur and messy has completely changed from the FroYo/Gingerbread days and I now find myself struggling to justify buying any phone with a UI overlay.

As mentioned above, my only gripe with the Nexus is the camera and the lack of a MicroSD card slot (although not so much since I used a proxy service to activate Google Music) and the recently released HTC One X would have solved both of those issues with a better camera and 32Gb of storage. However, after playing with a live unit in a store, I couldn't bring myself around to buying it as Sense was definitely laggy and didn't look all that great. It's all curves and grey gradients which look reminiscent of a teenagers first website built using a hacked copy of Photoshop they downloaded via a torrent.

I'm now only going to buy phones that are either Google Experience or have very good AOSP support, unfortunately due to manufacturers being poor with releasing their kernel source and with propriety binaries with little to no documentation, I can't see good AOSP support for non-Google devices ever being realistic.

Nexus phones have always been slightly behind the curve on the technology front (such as the GPU and camera in the Galaxy Nexus) and I'm not sure why this is as they're priced as top end devices in the UK. Hopefully, future Nexus phones will be just as impressive technology wise as they are software.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] davidstech11:
I will more than likely buy the GS3 superphone. That quad-core processor and non pentile screen will hold me down for a while. It does not matter if the US version does not get the quad-core processor since I will pay full price and import it.

The next Nexus device will not get released until about half a year after the GS3. That's a good while before deciding on the only other Android device I may want.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
A phone should only be coined super if the software is equally a super as the hardware.

Put a Ferrari engine in a Pinto, and it is still a piece of crap Pinto.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Agreed hw is good in Sammy UI is bad tho and people say sense is bad I noticed more stuttering on the sgsii on sprint then the evo 3d at least in overall UI
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
I have owned the SGS2 and EVO 3D on Sprint and the EVO 3D did not even come close to the overall smoothness of the SGS2. It was like night and day and was almost unfair to compare the 2 devices. Anyone who thought differently must have been smoking way to much that day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ALIHISGREAT:
If the s3 has good dev support so I could run a vanilla ics flavoured rom then I would definitely consider swapping... especially if the camera is significantly better than the s2 camera.

I would probably miss the soft keys though - and I have quite small hands so a big screen without soft keys would probably be too big.

I think under normal use eg browsing, email, Facebook, twitter, phone, texting etc. The s3 won't be any better than the gnex.

But its going to destroy the nexus on benchmark performance... so when 3d games are optimised for the s3 its going to be amazing. The camera is going to be awesome too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Lol I haven't smoked in a long time the device was better with games I can admit that just their UI was slow as hell imo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
There must have been something wrong with your phone...The TW launcher was smooth as butter as it was hardware accelerated...Maybe someone laced your drink? lol

Also, I do not see why people like the soft keys on the GN. All it does is take up screen real estate and wastes space. The only time it actually proves useful is when you use tablet mode and the soft keys are put together with the notification bar. The tablet bar should have been the default ICS bar for phones as well. Then it would have made much more sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Sense has been hw accelerated since Sense 3.0, which include the EVO 3D.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
If that is true then HTC sure did a crappier job then I thought with it's implementation...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Meh something may have been wrong with the phone but in a way I like the software button.s while it does take up screen space. The hard buttons are nice too tho but with a 4.6in+ the hw buttons make the phone longer. Bigger screens I don't think need hw buttons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
5.31" (L) x2.72" (W) x0.35" (T) EVO LTE

5.3” x 2.7” x .37” GN

All though the EVO LTE is about the same size as the GN... Which is weird lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dplate07:
Hmm... I don't know if I will jump boat as I realised that Google tend to use outdated hardware. Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S both uses bleeding edge technology
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
No, they just didn't include the same amount of crayola rainbow magic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Looking at the GNEX, it looks like there would have been enough room for 3 hardware buttons at the bottom of the device. There is still a lot of empty space at the bottom considering there are no buttons on it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Yeah that's why I posted sizes up above lol n realized that myself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
haha, I was wondering why you posted that. Should have put the 2 together...It still early

And don't forget the EVO LTE uses a larger screen at 4.7" compared to 4.65" of the GNEX.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Yeah gonna notice that .05 inches lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
It was more to reference they use a larger screen and squeeze in capacitive touch keys.

If Google used the tablet bar for their phones I would not see a reason for manufactures to add capacitive keys but since the soft keys the way they are right now just take up screen space for no reason. I totally support the use of capacitive keys thus allowing much more of your screen to be usuable and as proven not adding any additional size to the device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Lol I know and still only a tiny tiny bit bigger with a bigger batt is pretty impressive and a SD card.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
i love my nexus, but i hope you aren't including the camera sensor in that "bleeding edge" category.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
I would only buy it if it was pentaband and if the recovery and the kernel were NOT on the same partition. That tripped me out on the gs2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
I'm staying with GNex until next Nexus phone comes out, unless something really bad happens. I still love this phone too much :-) Although my contract ends up at the end of next month...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IFLATLINEI:
This thread is a trap. Its designed to expose those of you who didn't properly research your purchase or those who can't resist buying the newest shiny turd. Buying anything but the Galaxy Nexus is buying second best at this stage of the game. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeke1988:
my next phone will most likely be the next iphone with 4g speed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
My next phone will float in the air. Thanks adobe.

teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] androidtoy09:
What temptation?? I only buy Nexus devices from now on. Coming from T-mobile GS2, I learned my lesson. Never again.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
Well if it has soft keys, and actually looks nice and has equal or better build than the nexus... then I might switch :/ because I know it will get AOSP...only thing I'd miss is Franco's kernel lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
True AOSP isn't the same as fake AOSP. For example, if Jelly Bean came out.... Jelly Bean AOSP isn't the same as if you're getting Jelly Bean TouchWiz version. You still need Samsung to release kernel sources for Jelly Bean. If you don't have them then you will be running a ICS kernel on Jelly Bean.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
yep, as of switching over to gsm and pre paid I am happy, was happy with my sprint nexus s(the bill and customer service made me leave, and their 3g is so bad)

Ill fight temptation until the next nexus is going for what the galaxy nexus is going for today in the app store
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
At this point would rather wait for the Nexus-Four. Will be made by Samsung again, basically a Galaxy S3 spec'd phone running Android 5.0 Jellybean and supposedly the first phone with a 1080p screen.

And who knows when the U.S. carriers will even get the S3 ? Could be September and the Nexus typically come out in Nov/Dec. Not that far off.

And it will be a long while till the Galaxy S3 is running a stable version of CM10 Jellybean. Takes a few months after Jellybean is released for it to make its way on to other phones than the Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sbrownla:
Ugh!

Apples and oranges. People buy Nexii for a reason--CLEAN Android or modding.

Go to GSM Arena and figure it out for yourself by comparing the two. If you want to start arguments, go to Engadget or IRC. Why come here and try to convince everyone that it is your way or the highway?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Whoa.

HOLY MOTHER OF ASSUMPTIONS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subxero123:
LOL at people in this thread.

Of course you're going to say I'm sticking to the nexus, its a defense mechanism, of course you want your phone to be the best, but the S3 will knock the nexus out of the park.

Also lol'd at "faster updates"

pls go, my nexus is still on 4.0.1 while my friends S2 got 4.0.3

Nexus fails, never buying one again, always behind in the hardware game, and boohoo its got touchwiz, i'll just get a different launcher / thread
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Hardware doesn't mean squat if the software sucks.

I had 4.0.4 the day it came out. Your friend's S2 didn't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
obvious troll is obvious. ive been on 4.0.4 for a long time, phone came with 4.0.2 pre-installed sooooooo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
Probably a vzw user
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Now you are trolling.

VZW shipped with 4.0.2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subxero123:
well neither did my nexus

phone came with 4.0.1, still on it.

and no im not with vzw

my avis right there and it has a canadian flag so how can i be on vzw?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yakjuxx variants get updated by Samsung. Expect their ****ty update schedule.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deaffob:
Haha I love adryn. You are one of few devs who are friendly enough to join us kids' play.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subxero123:
"system is up to date"

lulzzz

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this is what i don't understand, samsung is updating the S2 but not the nexus?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Say it with me. I am on a Samsung build. I can convert to Yakju, but I rather complain.

Samsung sucks with their update speed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Samsung sucks at updates.