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[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Considering the Moto is just testing, and that's according to a leak, and not officially announced, and having whatever skin Moto us using, I doubt they got their tweaked JB on it already.

What I don't get is how not having JB at release would be a dealbreaker on a supposedly nice premium slider, provided it's released around or soon after the Nexus ones are released. Consider JB is the maturation of Android (at least in my eyes), I would imagine they want JB on these devices sooner than later. The more JB out there the more hurt on iOS.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Moto will likely have a locked bootloader, unless it is a Nexus device.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
It's not a dealbreaker. Just having JB on it or being on a confirmed upgrade status might make me jump on it sooner rather than later...if it actually shows up, of course.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Good news for everyone who bought or are considering buying an lte phone soon in certain places... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sprint-unleash-speed-power-4g-160000613.html

And if I didn't hate htc bootloader crap so much this phone would look excellent to me! Quadcore and lte... hopefully not just a rumor and it pans out! http://www.phonearena.com/news/Alle...nd-video-offers-quad-core-and-LTE-too_id31513
[Epic 4G General] jiffy1080:
I randomly walked into a sprint store today and walked out minus an epic but with a pebble blue S3...I didn't really wanna give up the epic but It could have been worse! The epic community is the best out there and I upgraded to the S3 hoping that much of the community would end up suppporting it in the long run. It has been great...although I don't post much. :)

The sales person didn't even realize I was running CM9.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Welcome to the club. They will just odin he epic and throw it in the refurb pile.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And to jump in on the Moto discussion, didn't Google buy Motorola?
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
Yes but vowed to let Motorola still function as it has. They just wanted ownership to patents that Motorola has.

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] epicnoob66:
I'm having second thoughts about upgrading. Got the wife the sgs3 and MTP is driving me crazy
[Epic 4G General] RTbar:
I have the S3 and while it is an excellent piece of hardware... I miss my keyboard too much. First of all I find the phone too big to use comfortably with one hand, everything is a stretch, and it is too thin as well.

I loved the camera button on the epic, it felt like a real camera. What I miss most is how easy the epic is to hold when watching a video or browsing with the keyboard open. Also, it is much easier to use in bed with a keyboard, whereas the S3 is rotating all over the place. Hopefully the Photon Q is out within a few days... I hear July 15th is the speculative release date
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
The Epic is definitely awesome. I actually wanted to put mine in a display case on a shelf!
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
the photon q just seems so weird looking the KB makes a little ugly looking IMO, i like Japanese Aquos.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3606&c=ntt_docomo_sharp_aquos_phone_sv_sh-10d

pretty kewl looking, take a look.

a little edgy but its got that weird style too it
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
That's you should buy a FlyGrip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKNUkB9N1Yg

Tim should start paying me for my endorsements. :cool:

Though you could also look at Lazy-Hands.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I'm keeping my epic as it is probably the best phone that I ever have or ever will have. The comunity and hardware are amazing.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
One word, punctuation.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Just got back from the Sprint store. I REALLY wanted a new phone, and I was sure I would leave with an SIII. After playing with the SIII and the HTC phones for about an hour, I left disappointed. The SIII screen is really dim, even turned up all the way. It seems like it would be totally unreadable in direct sunlight. The HTC with Sense was too laggy. I guess I'll stick with my Epic 4G for a while longer. (I wish the slider wasn't falling apart though.)
[Epic 4G General] RTbar:
The s3 isn't really dim, it just has very low contrast between white and black. The whites are not very white at all, but the other colors pop
[Epic 4G General] Bluerai:
And was it on the power saving mode?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
If the whites aren't as white as my old Epic, the screen is dimmer than my Epic.

I turned off power saving, I turned off auto brightness and turned brightness up all the way. It was still dimmer than my Epic with power saver on.

The store had 2 S3s on display, they were both noticably dimmer than my Epic.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
My S3 is as bright and vivid as my Epic with the best voodoo color settings. Blacks are black and it is really crisp. My GF with my other Epic even said wow!
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
right when i talk to one of the sprint reps i know he always gets amazed that my screen looks as good if not better than the s2 and nexus.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Personally, I could care less how my phone looks. I just care how productive i am with it.

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In regards to the screen. If we can load voodoo and tweak the screen to improve just about every aspect of it, are the engineers at samsung that inept they can't do the same thing? They sell tv's for god's sake where you can tweak just about every possible setting to dial in the picture, but the phones leave the warehouse with unflattering settings that are only fixed by rooting and using voodoo. It's just baffling at this point of the game it takes rooting to properly calibrate a screen, and a phone with two year old tech can look better than a new one due to said calibration.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I hate voodoo color
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
+1

But when did you join the club?
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I actually have ever since I started making my own kernel.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
it's stock settings or the concept of it? Because the app itself just shows it's possible to calibrate the screens and that stock isn't optimal even if voodoo's settings aren't optimal. It'd be nice just to have normal control over gamma and temp.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I dont care how I can tweak it. The blacks still look like crap and it is not vibrant.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
MTP?

5char
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Didn't you make a thread all about the best settings for voodoo?:confused:

Maybe Marcusant took a hypocritical oath.
[Epic 4G General] BubZX:
Well with a phone call to sprint and politley asking if ii could get my upgrade moved from september 1st to now, I will be moving to the GS3 tomorrow :)

I told them that my local at&t store was running a buy out this weekend and that I was thinking of going and checking it out so I could maybe jump on the GS3 thru them and after a little talking and one transfer to retentions they gladly moved my upgrade for me. Just gotta be nice and they will work for u to stay at sprint.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Get use to mtp it's included in all new phones. I do all Wi-Fi transfers so blah
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Because the we are accessing internal storage on these phones there is no USB mass storage mode so there is mtp its the way windows mounts the storage to transfer files as a portable device. It's really not that bad just new.
[Epic 4G General] BubZX:
Just picked a 16gig GS3 at Wal-Mart for $148. Wow this thing is super fast and smooth!!
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Ain't it. I love this thing. It's a really nice device with a lot of refinements and the radio is pretty good to.
[Epic 4G General] BubZX:
Here's a screening of a speed test. My epic never got even close at the same spot.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Is the call signal stronger than it was on the Epic?
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Read reports that radio is indeed improved on the S3
[Epic 4G General] xjayman:
Sprint is offering 100 american express card with phones for new line of service. Tried to get it on an upgrade but no dice. I did find it funny that sprint sells almost all versions of iphones with a preowned option, thats allot of iphone assholes jumping ship it would appear.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Thanked ;). So I'm assuming it's still pretty easy to transfer files from a PC to your phone through a USB cable? I don't care if it's different, I just hope I can still plug my phone into my laptop and move files!
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
It is! I know longer need my Airave in my house! It is definitely a bar or two better for me!
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Yes it's easy. I had to install kies first for the driver then you can uninstall it evolte is the same way as well.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Sweet, my phone should be here Tuesday!
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
WOW that is insane think I know what I will getting next then.
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
Well my 22 month upgrade is available in less than 30 days and there is no QWERTY keyboard on the horizon that I am aware of. I would consider the Samsung Note, but no word on that coming to Sprint either. TBH I would really like to stay away from Samsung.

I dunno what to do. :(
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I'm assuming that is only true for the internal memory. Wouldn't you still access the SD card the same way, as an external drive?
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
you'd rather jump to HTC and all their craziness, BS, Chaotic forums.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
There is the previously mentioned moto slider, but you're probably looking at 4 months or so, if it even shows.
[Epic 4G General] BubZX:
I have really big hands and typing on this screen is very easy with errors. This phone is so buttery smooth it's not even funny
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Yeah Samsung pretty much got it right this time GPS is awesome, and everything just seems a lot more polished and refined. It's a great phone.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I'm probably getting the gnex within next week... any objections?
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
wait till the newer Nexus Drops
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
You bastard.

But...what about me? The things we've done!
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I thought you wanted the Epic forum to yourself?
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
Well glad to have you on board, I have always enjoyed your work, can't wait to see what you bring to our forum. Can't wait to see you interact with some of the EGO's in there. ;)

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
I'm loving the phone as well. :)

Just got a 16 GB microSD Card and a case and all the best games :D
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
I'm really holding off till the next Nexus....so do you guys think that it will be released this year?....to Sprint?
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
It's no fun if they go off and develop somewhere else :(

I want him banned, not relocated. :cowboy:
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Announced? Yes. Released on Sprint in 2012? Highly doubtful. Rumor has it announcement will be made somewhere around the Thanksgiving timeframe and I'm sure they'll be available sometime in early 2013.

I think Google knows the screwed up with the Verizon exclusive deal this year so I don't think that will be happening again.

I'm really hoping for an HTC, Samsung and Moto Nexus' to choose from. I think that would be pretty sweet. I'm getting the GS3 either Monday or Tuesday, but I may use wife's upgrade on the Nexus if I like it (dual A15 will be a deal signer) and then take that and give her my GS3.
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
One thing no one mentioned about the moto slider...

How does the qHD screen stack up against the AMOLED screens?
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I have the Photon and like the screen on it. If Q is better than the Photon then it'll work for me. It might not be as vibrant color wise as the Epic, but I like truer white and more accurate color compared to people that like the cartoonish pop of samoled which has been toned down a bit since the epic. I think the Photon is pentile, but I haven't paid much attention to the pixelization complaints as I didn't really notice it, and the Q might not be a pentile display.

All in all, I'm not expecting a GS3 quality screen. I'm happy with something a generation improved over the original Photon with higher than wvga res in a 4.3" screen. The keyboard is key so my expectations now are lowered compared to the top tier slates. Though I would love to see a 4.5" bezel-less slider. Could see that in two more years.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
One thing about Motos is they generally have great radios and solid build quality. Non-removable batteries and locked bootloaders put a damper on this. It will come down to weighing pros and cons when it will be released - probably around the time Nexus slates will be and Sprint LTE hits NYC metro area later in the year.
[Epic 4G General] mooshubob:
Does it usually take that long? When was the Galaxy Nexus released on Sprint after announcement? I held off on the GS3 because I was expecting a new Nexus in ~November and could hold out on CM9/10 until then....not sure I want to wait until January-March (Q1 2013) though :[

EDIT: Just checked, GNex was announced October 2011, released on Sprint April 2012. Eff that :[

UNRELATED: Are there any good unlimited or high data (LTE preferred - AT&T) plans that are no-contract on a GSM carrier in the US? I want to buy unlocked phones with a cheap plan with minimal minutes (since I hardly ever call anyone, just text/data), and unfortunately no one releases unlocked CDMA devices...
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I don't think it will be April 2013 when the next Nexus' come to Sprint though. Google knows they screwed up with the GNex Verizon exclusive, so don't expect that to happen again. I'm thinking Google is going to start taking more control and they'll release devices themselves. Hopefully this will all still jive with the CDMA networks.

I would expect announcement of the Nexus around the late October, early November timeframe as per usual, then we'll be able to buy them somewhere around December/January, best case. GSM variants will probably be available around Thanksgiving.

As for unlimited data, your only hope is still Sprint. Everyone else has caps, and unless you go 2GB or less, you're probably going to be paying significantly more unless you go prepaid, but then you're stuck with being the low man on the totem pole when it comes to priority on the network.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I dont get why any user of these forums would even consider a phone with a locked bootloader, no matter how nice.
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
No LTE, but the whole Monthly4G plan from T-Mobile is unbeatable. And fits your criteria fairly well.
[Epic 4G General] mooshubob:
I'm not familiar with that plan - is it the $30/month plan from WalMart? Coverage from T-Mobile isn't all that great where I go to school, hence my hesitation.

I would probably be fine with 2GB/month (never really go over that), if AT&T is still an option. I'm going to be doing a fair bit of traveling soon, and a GSM phone is just a better option overall x.x
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
I know I won't... So the Motorola phone is out for me... My options are lessening and lessening.
[Epic 4G General] :
It look like Jelly Bean source is being released today. :) I <3 android
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
CM devs are syncing as we speak, and merging will start soon. CM10!!

~ Mr. Z
[Epic 4G General] :
Thank you based god!!!!!!
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
As much joy as that brings me, kinda concerned that CM9 won't get the final bugs worked out and all the CM options fleshed out, before I have to move to a CM10 alpha or beta build because the CM devs have all moved from CM9 to CM10 (and also because I couldn't resist CM10) rofl...
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Cm10 will be cm9 based. All of the device overlays should still work.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
Me. July 4th. P. 90 if you have the normal setup
[Epic 4G General] Bfitz26:
Opinion for everyone galaxy nexus or s3 its a real toss up for me will really notice a performance difference in a 1.5 vs 1.2 dual size thinness overall pros and cons??

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I'm getting the gnex because I hate dealing with touchwiz
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
Gnex is almost a year old, I'm waiting. But if you have to get something who cares about touchwiz or stock android if you're just going to root it and put cm9 or cm10 on it? Ill just get whatever phone has the best specs and good dev community.
[Epic 4G General] Bfitz26:
Yeah porting will be a breeze... but 1.5 vs 1.2 not much difference there really... when r u getting yours?

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
It is a lot different from a dev perspective... CM ports are not ever 100% stable and there are still non-aosp proprietary files.
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
So will you root and put custom roms on the gnex? Do they have CM for it? Or will you just stick with the pure google experience?
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Does that mean that there will not be a need for an alpha and beta process and the squashing of bugs again?

CM9 is almost fully done, just a handful of remaining issues (flash for the video is an example), but when the move to CM10 is made, wont that process have to start all over again, or will CM10 be able to go almost directly to a beta or RC status?

I was just thinking it would be a bummer to have CM9 be 98% done, then dropped for CM10 development.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Slates aren't an option for me. I work on my phone. I don't carry my laptop. DocsToGo is my most used app by a longshot. Slates are unproductive for navigating through text, constant editing, and wysiwyg while working. Not to mention the feedback and muscle memory of knowing your hard keyboard inside and out.

If they fix the battery, they better give it the maxx battery and someone better create a belt clip holster with charging built in. I still don't get Moto's choice in that. I'm tired of companies feeling some compelling need to be like Apple. The more you can distance yourself from them, the better.

That being said, if the fixed battery becomes an issue, I craigslist it and go back to the Epic. As much as I love gadgets and having the latest and greatest, a useful productive phone is more important than having the newest and largest hi res screen and quad core processor and so forth. And I also did my part to buy a new premium slider so hopefully it sells well enough to have a better model come in next year as i have two lines to play with and try new phones every year.
[Epic 4G General] Bfitz26:
I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH DEVELOPMENT ON THE SPRINT NEXUS?? are all roms the the gsm nexus and the sprint and verizon development interchangable??
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Samsung is way faster and IMO better built from my experience. And the screen is amazing.
[Epic 4G General] Robalboa:
Keyboard keyboard keyboard

MTD FC09

Peoples rom 2.2

smooth and buttery!!
[Epic 4G General] Robalboa:
Oh yeah been with most of the other carriers beside sprint and sprint is the angel out of the bunch.

You think u have problems with sprint., wait till you go to the others...... its literally 10 times worse. They are very scammy in many ways

MTD FC09

Peoples rom 2.2

smooth and buttery!!
[Epic 4G General] shonmac11:
The Evo 4G LTE does support sd cards
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Sammy May be faster, but apparently the screen on evo lteis better than gnex which will more than likely be the new screen on the galaxy s iii. Also, in america, supposedly the gsiii will have the s4 which is the same processor as evolte, so it cant be too much faster. If its the same processor, i may pick htc just because of samsungs cheap plastic and boring, unupdated designs and htcs better looking software and cooler hardware, which I know are subjective and a personal opinion, but it is an opinion many share and the point of this thread is opinions.
[Epic 4G General] carm0033:
Is anyone else hopeful for a Note announcement at CTIA next week?
[Epic 4G General] :
I am :)
[Epic 4G General] domwin:
I'm excited for the note and gs3...what if there was a gs3 note? *drooooools*
[Epic 4G General] :
*Gasm*
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Never had an HTC phone, but wondered about one big thing. Samsung has Odin, which is a saving grace at times, no question. Does HTC have something similar, where you can pretty much get back to stock almost regardless of what you do to your phone?

We now know Sprint's HTC EVO LTE will have a microSD slot, which I'm a fan of, but one thing I noticed on the spec sheet for the HTC was 'embedded 2000mah battery' with my question about being embedded. My assumption would be non-removeable, but is that the case?
[Epic 4G General] Slow5Ohh:
Unfortunately, that is the case
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Dang it. Are we 100% on that? I only ask because the 'original' One X didn't have a microSD card if I remember right anyway, and only an 1800mah battery. Sprint's version has a bigger batter and a microSD, so I was hoping for maybe a removeable battery too.

The chances are pretty slim I'll get it anyway, as I'm probably going to hold out for the SGSIII, but we'll find out soon enough!
[Epic 4G General] carm0033:
After seeing the S3 specs, I still prefer the Note. C'mon Sprint!
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Yes. Ruu. They also have fastboot,
[Epic 4G General] tumbes20000:
I am thinking htc evo lte. The sg3 got pretty lackluster initial reviews. They said the phone felt cheap. Moreover, I am reluctant to count on samsung to upgrade their phones in a timely manner. However the samsung note would be interesting as well.

Once the sg3 is out i 'll go to the store and decide from there.
[Epic 4G General] BubZX:
Keepin the epic till a kb phone comes out
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Then you'll he waiting until the apocalypse because I highly doubt there will ever be another keyboard phonr such as the epic. Its name will go down in history and those who owned will have their name written in stone :D

Sent From My Sprint Galaxy Nexus via Premium
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Haha Glass written in stone...nice! Actually you have to wonder what Sprint has up it's sleeve if it has not EOLd the Epic yet.
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
That is exactly what I am afraid of. I fear that they have NOTHING up their sleeve (in the realm of a powerful QWERTY phone), which is why they are keeping this around. :(
[Epic 4G General] pvtjoker42:
played around with the gnex and gs3 this weekend (wow, the pebble blue in person is bad..) and i think purely on a look and feel basis, i'd go gnex over gs3. then the added benefit of full AOSP compatibility on the gnex and I'm sold. However i don't like either of them enough to pull me away from my epic yet. So here's to continued development for this glorious phone! Now to go spend my money on a G7 to have a new shiny toy.. :)
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Uhhh, my wife's ns4g never had a cm version that didn't randomly reboot (among other things), while my epic was running stable cm7 since the earliest days of its release. Kinda soured me on the whole vanilla google thing.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Unfortunately, not true. Just read an article today that SamSprint aren't releasing driver information, so no-go on the official AOSP.

I hope the pebble blue isn't ugly in person, I have one waiting at home for me as I'm typing this! I do have a few cases coming in tomorrow though, one clear and one black.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Odd... I have a friend with an ns4g and cm9 works 100%
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I find that hard to believe.

Nope can't believe you actually have a friend.

LOL..J/K