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[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Coming from the epic with its wolfson and voodoo sound... I don't even tell a difference. But I'm no audiophile. I still can't tell a difference if anything I believe the gnex sounds better. But I would have to do an in depth comparison. If your using an upgrade or starting a new contract you cant beat this phone for 200$. Besides I got mine at wirefly and it was 150 plus activation and overnight shipping which was 207$ exactly. And to everybody that says the evo... no your wrong... despite its seemingly outstanding hardware... it still sucks.

Also I use an equalizer app... that helps a lot...

Used it on my epic too... :D otherwise it sounds terrible.

The only thing I don't like is its a pentile but so is the s3's... the stock rgb and gamas suck... but on cm9 I tweaked it and it looks great.
[Epic 4G General] Valorous17:
I am sure they will come up with something to fix that. All new technology has a problem until they find a way to work around it.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
I wasn't talking about htc when I mentioned hd voice. Hd voice is sprints voice over 1x. The htc evo 4g lte is just the first phone to be branded with that. Sprints gs3 should come with hd voice. But really what are you able to do with your gnex that this epic does not do. Besides you have official ics. Nothing. So a phone that does not have the ability to talk and surf while on 3g is one of the only reasons to get a new phone. Honestly I'm not really looking forward to ics anyways so I could care less about software.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Problem guys?

Didn't think so.

Play nice or I will close the sandbox.

FNM
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Actually Jbad...that is my hint that it's over...LOL.

Back on topic guys

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[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Hey why'd my post get deleted? Lol
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Easier then editing every other word...lol.

Must be a freakin dead moon after the super moon..lol.
[Epic 4G General] Geekybiker:
I got an international Galaxy Note in the mail last week. Put it on straight talk. Nice to be able to have data again. Sprint was comically slow for me at work. Anyhow, it is an amazing phone and actually feels less bulky in the pocket than the epic does. (its much thinner despite being larger) Screen is big enough that the on screen keyboard isn't an issue. Its one of those phones that seems like a risky until you live a little bit with one. Official ICS came out for it the day it arrived. A good omen I think. ;)
[Epic 4G General] kidrobot52:
Yea I'm moving to sprint from T-Mobile wen my contract is upin June They pulled some shady **** on me with my bill. And my wife really wants the iPhone and since tmobile isn't stable enough apple isn't releasing a phone with them. So sprint is the best for us since ima data hog and she just wants the iPhone.

So between the gnex and epic which phone is still going to be usable ina a yr. Seeing how most android phones arent built to last a yr.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
honestly, sprint service isn't much better. 3g is horrid. 4g if your lucky enough.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Galaxy nexus.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
The Epic has been around since 2010 so most likely this will not be used in a year possibly but most of which would just pick something newer for better support and better specs
[Epic 4G General] andsamp:
How much $$$ did it set u back? Phone and plan
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
http://www.expansys.com/mobile-phones/ (Don't forget to convert the currency)

http://www.straighttalk.com/serviceplans

Two years including a nice phone from the link above on Straight Talk is still cheaper than a new phone and two year contract deal on Sprint. This is going to be my next move. They have quad core GSIII's on Expansys. Does anyone know if the international quad model will work out here?
[Epic 4G General] kidrobot52:
Well I live in NYC and their service Map says I should get 3G and 4g. Couple of buddies say thy get 4g a lot n if not 3G all the time.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
i would really check, like play with the service with their phones at the store. Because were i live it says 4G all around me, as well as 3g but yet i Have no 4g service, sometimes barely. And on their sitemap it says i have the in-building which is the strongest 4g connection, so it should be good but yet it says no 4g at all.
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
Well I guess its my turn to say good bye....Went ahead and got the Note 2. Still trying to get use to it but I like it a lot. Thanks for all the help here. I couldn't bring myself to sell the Epic for so little, so I will hang on to old faithful. (You never know what will happen) Take care and Happy New Year! All my Note 2 people, see you around.
[Epic 4G General] dirtbag1975:
Congrats! I have the Note 2, and love it! Had to ditch Sprint tho.Sprint service was horrible here in Chicago. The OG Epic is still a great phone regardless what it's worth now.
[Epic 4G General] acegolfer:
My wife and I got nexus 4 each. Each is paying $30 for unlimited calling and 5gb data with a complicated setup posted in n4 forum.

I setup a similar setup on the epic and gave to my daughter. She can call as long as she has WiFi.
[Epic 4G General] jsminnis:
I just upgraded 1 of my lines to the new DNA. As soon as I got home I rooted it but unfortunately there's not enough space on SD card for me so I was looking to get a note 2. I'm still within 14 days , and I want to trade my DNA in for the note 2, the problem is even if I un root my phone and re lock it the bootloader will still show that it has been rooted. So, if Verizon found out that I rooted my phone when I go to do the swap what will they do? Please help I plan on going tomorrow.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
You can probably restore stock with an ruu.
[Epic 4G General] jsminnis:
I can, but my understanding is the bootloader will say " relocked " rather than "locked" like it did when it was new.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I think that's only if you do fastboot oem lock. I haven't had an HTC device, so I'm not sure. Maybe fastboot flash the stock bootloader and misc partitions (bootloader being aboot).
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Best bet is to check those forums. On the note II, there is s dev that created method to reset the counter completely. He called it triangle away, fwiw

sent from my ginormous Note II
[Epic 4G General] jeffreyjicha:
That only works with Samsung Phones
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
I understand that, hence my suggestion to check that phone's thread instead if an old Samsung phone's thread.

sent from my ginormous Note II
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
If you haven't upgraded yet.. Wait for Google X phone or the other, Samsung s4
[Epic 4G General] jfg69:
Ordered my sprint Note 2 on Amazon Wireless 2 weeks ago, it was 199.99 but backordered and wouldn't arrive until Feb 13th. I ordered it anyway.. got an email this morning saying it had been shipped.

I guess I'll keep the Epic as a music player, since it still works fine, even though its a bit redundant having the note and the epic. I want to thank all you guys who have dev'd on the epic, its been a great ride, see you on the other side!
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
I'll throw you a little Note II bone

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2039564

sent from my ginormous Note II
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Good choice. I went with the Note II as well. I agree with meetface either that rom or cm since by that point sbrissen might have perfected cm10 for the device at his pace. Oh and get a flip cover the back feels amazingly sturdy!
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
That's what I'm doing. I got a phone call from Sprint this week telling me I can upgrade. I like the s3 but I can wait a few months for something newer. I really want a Google phone but the nexus 4 doesn't tickle my fancy.
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
Still debating on getting the Note 2? Battery life is just sick on these....I was skeptical at first because of the size but you do get use to it.....I'm happy I made the jump.....And development is great as well...
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
anyone have any comments / opinions on upcoming SONY Xperia Z ? would Sprint even get it ? looks pretty decent ...
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
From what im hearing Sprint should have it day one... Im all about the s4 until we know what else will be out on or around that time.

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[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Got one on my 2nd line for my GF for $149...she loves it. I rooted it and put Virtue on it in all purples. She ran Pandora for 6 hours and an hour in phone calls and was still at 64%!

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[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
This really dropped down. Bump for those looking to upgrade.

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[Epic 4G General] epic559:
I think ima hold out for the note 3 in September pretty sure that's when it drops or if google drops a nice nexus 5 or nexus X phone I might go that route but 1 of thos 3 forsure and hoping the note 3 will have the octa core pretty sure it will just like last year with the s3 it was suppose to come quad but came dual then note 2 got the quad...s3 everywhere else came with quad just like s4 releasing everywhere else with octa they sell us short but deliver on the note towards the end of the year :)
[Epic 4G General] cujo2344:
My epic even with updated wipes and ROMs just seems to be running slow, all the new phones are looking good.

I think I am going with a Note since the keyboard will be nice and large on the oversized screen and keep holding out for a top-of-the-line slider to come out again soon.
[Epic 4G General] epic559:
Has any1 seen the galaxy relay omg best keyboard phone out looks similar to the s3 but yea pretty sure ima hold out for the note 3
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Every Samsung slider since the Epic has been nothing but an Epic2. The Relay is still 4" WVGA with a slightly more modern design and improved keyboard layout. Don't know why a 4.3" 720p slider should be so difficult. Don't know why a GS3 slider should be so difficult. If they made a GS3 slider, I'd be a happy camper for quite a few years to come. I have the Note 2. I still hate typing on screen. Swiftkey is the best 3rd party keyboard out there if you actually type, and they seemed to have gone backwards lately. If I could do a mash up of the Note 2 keyboard and Swiftkey, i'd at least find typing on screen more tolerable but still nowhere close to having a good physical keyboard and a full screen at all times.

It's a shame the Photon Q was such a gimped phone from the screen to the battery.

I also tried to go back to the S3 from the Note 2 but had an even harder time typing. It just felt so cramped in comparison. I miss my keyboard...sigh
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Not sure. I feel like the note is more of a niche phone than a slider. Companies are too worried about statistics. That's why large batteries are out and thin is in. 4.3 in 720p snapdragon s4 or up would be perfect. Another option would be something like the Microsoft surface, with keyboards you can put on and take off easily. Current keyboard cases kind of suck, but if done well, they could be awesome in my opinion.
[Epic 4G General] epic559:
Wow this sounds like it could be huge like u said if done right
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I've preached that for a while about niches. Volume wise, there isn't much difference between the Note and say a S3 slider if Samsung ever decided to get off its ass and be the slightest bit creative. You revers the front to back curve on the S3 and mirror it with the bottom sliding portion, you have room for a phenom keyboard with a nice big battery for balance. I think they would be surprised at the response they'd have to it. Then you'd have the craptastic blog sites complaining about how thick it is compared to the slates. You'd think even gamers would love a good premium slider too.

And it's a shame you have the Chinese wholesale factories creating bt keyboard cases. They make one basic mold and design and fit around it regardless of phone dimensions. The one for the S3 is just bad. It could be done so well if just a little bit of thought went into it.

Instead it's the smartphone equivalent of the photo companies' megapixel wars....
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
LG kind of tried to do that with the Mach. Could've used a better screen though, but it is essentially a WVGA dual core Optimus G.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Do you think they tried? I think it was meant to be mid tier where it does hit the mark. The Photon Q tried to be premium and failed. Moto couldve hit at least a triple if they put the maxx battery in it and gave it an HD screen. I could have tried to live with the fixed battery then.
[Epic 4G General] sickley:
I'm kinda split right now between the nexus 4 and the note 2...

On one hand I could replace my epic and my iconia a500 by getting the note, on the other hand the nexus 4 will be easier to get at the price I'm willing to spend..

I can probably grab a Note 2 from ebay for around the same price, but I'm always uncertain when dealing with ebay folks..

also I'm looking to use it on T-mobile's network which means i'll most likely end up getting the model that doesn't support LTE, but that's not a HUGE deal breaker for me since I barely use mobile data with my epic..

Any thoughts? :)
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
True. I guess they just don't see a market for high end sliders. All the mid to high end ones have had major drawbacks, such as screen or battery. I doubt Samsung will change their strategy. They're running like a well oiled machine by being Apple and not changing much year to year. The rest of the companies are forced to try new strategies and new ideas due to their market positions. I feel like at some point, the idea of a high end slider has to hit them in the face.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
It's funny. The Mini and the Mega? These odd ducks couldn't possibly sell better than a premium slider, or could they? It does seem like all these slate variants are going to come back and bite them. If they're going to experiment with different feature sets and tiers, then put a little thought into it and create a next gen slider and stick it Motorola's ear.

I think Apple backed itself into a corner. Sticking with their rigid model, where else can they go without departure from their norm? Screen res is pretty much maxed. The guts are top notch. Good camera. They're not innovating on features. They won't add ports of sorts. NFC won't happen until they can incorporate it into their ecosystem first. Bigger screens are the only thing they can really do, and then they'll just be a me too manufacturer like the rest of the next big thing wannabes.

Let's hope a slider hits them square in the forehead in the near future, and that it's not the Epic 3.
[Epic 4G General] steelers_exe:
Whats wrong with an Epic 3? The OG Epic is sorta like the Galaxy S3's grandfather, one of the original Galaxy S. If I remember correctly, for a while when it came out, the Epic was sprints flagship phone, not to mention its status as a legend. all the way to 4.2 and still kicking. I for one would welcome an Epic 3 so long as it was treated with the respect it deserves.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
The overall design is what's wrong. Stratosphere, Stratosphere 2, Relay. It is boring, dated and unimaginative. If they ever did a new slider, and its design cues stem from the Epic, it would fail. That cheap chrome plastic bezel insert should not be reborn. It needs to be premium top to bottom, inside and out. And it needs to take its design cues from the current S lineup, not a 4yr old design they've already rehashed three times. I don't want any reason for it not to sell well only to hear, "See? There is no market for sliders anymore." Either do it right or don't do it at all. Motorola didn't do it right and the sales reflect it. They missed the mark of what their slider customers want, and that's not to be treated like a mid tier demographic.
[Epic 4G General] sickley:
I'd have to agree. Glossy plastic of any color is idiotic when you're spending over a couple hundred dollars on a device. It's an insult to my wallet. It's why I refuse to buy pretty much any of the galaxy devices, if you're going to charge that much then at least don't make it look like it has the build quality of a $10 toy.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Yeah Samsung certainly doesn't make high quality materials. They are durable phones though. That's why I would've never bought an s3. Despite slightly less ram, I like the evo better. LG, HTC, and Apple certainly do. Motorola is a bit too industrial for my tastes. That octagon shape is hideous. Never held a recent Sony device, but the fact that they are water proof is pretty sweet. Supposedly they feel nice though.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I don't mind plastic. If it's a slate it's getting a case anyway, so light is good. And they do seem durable. My Epic still looks fairly new and never had a case.

I won't even entertain motorola or HTC unless they go back to a removable battery. A moto slider with HD and Maxx battery could tempt though.

I'll pick up the S4 just because and sell the S3 have a couple open lines without a contract. Might as well make use of it.
[Epic 4G General] SochBAT:
the hard part about these choices, for me, is that Sprint will try to **** me over and get me to switch to their newer plans.

For anyone on the SERO F&F, our only upgrade choices are "limited" by their standards.

If you do upgrade, do it through telesales instead of a b&m store. Less likely to alter your plan without your knowledge.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I"m sorry, but I don't have sympathy for people on old school SERO expecting to be grandfathered forever on a plan that made no provision for wimax, and they ended up giving you an option. A plan that has no provision for LTE or enhanced evdo, factoring in the tremendous expense to upgrade their entire network. Yet you think you should keep paying the prices of old. Why do you think you're entitled to it again and again with the latest and greatest phone tech and upgraded network? Their standards aren't the issue, your expectations are.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I don't mind plastic in general. There is some high quality plastic in the world, but Samsung chooses to use plastic which is not solid enough for my tastes. Their phones are too light for me. I like the feel of the optimus. I don't like a heavy phone per se, but I like having something solid. It feels more quality and less fragile.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
We all have our preferences, and that's why we have options. I have a Photon, and that seems more solid than the Galaxy phones, but once I slapped a case on it, all I feel is that it's heavier. For me, I just want my options which means removable battery and card storage. I would have tried the LG, but it was late to the party. And with the S4 coming out, I just want to play with it as a remote. So selling the S3 and picking up the S4 as an upgrade is a no brainer. If I thought there was another interesting option, I'd give it a shot just to try something new. But those three features would be a requirement. I had someone on engadget tell me that having a removable battery was a niche product, and my wants were not the norm. Made me laugh.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I think it was more early than late. Either way, it was caught between the two. It was better than the gs3 and Onex in terms of specs (2 more cores in an otherwise identical CPU, and a better GPU). The snapdragon 600 is about the same, but has higher clock speeds and an l2 cache, but it's not way ahead by any means.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
actually, I just remembered I held out for the Note 2. Had one of our reps not like Sprint's service up in Scranton so he went another route. I grabbed his new S3 and put a 4S on the line to give to a new rep. Realized I really don't care for typing on screen so if I have to do it, I want the most room possible. And the spen was a nice plus. So I had bypassed the LG altogether. Definitely like the spen for editing in Docs To Go. Still not as good as shift and arrow keys on a hard keyboard, but ...
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
I have the S3. With SwiftKey3, typing is much more manageable than I thought originally but does not equal the hardware keyboard of the Epic. Given that the S3 runs circles around Epic performance wise, as does Verizon network around Sprint's, very comfortable with the tradeoff. Will have to pay full price for my next phone to keep my unlimited data, so it would have to be a pretty significant upgrade to the S3 – and the S4 ain't it. Note 3, maybe - if the specs are there and the form factor is not huge.
[Epic 4G General] epic559:
Isn't note 3 gonna be like 6.3in lol phablet
[Epic 4G General] jeffreyjicha:
I hope not.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I doubt it. They just came out with the Galaxy Mega which is about that size, so I doubt the note would be the same size. Otherwise, they'd be too similar.
[Epic 4G General] dirtbag1975:
I absolutely love my Note 2 on the T-Mobile network, which destroys sprints network in every way. I don't have LTE yet in my area, but I'm averaging 16 meg on their HSPA network in Chicago. Once they flip the LTE switch it will only get better, probably the fastest 4g network given they are deploying the latest technology. That being said I don't venture out of major metropolitan areas much. T-Mobile is great in such areas, but doesn't have the coverage of Verizon once outside of major markets. I've been using Swype and love it, touch screen typing is much less a hassle using it. The Swype gestures are awesome. I have SwiftKey Flow, and it just didn't do it for me, and always go back to Swype. I loved my physical keyboard, but have excepted that those days are long gone and not coming back. Either way zero regrets getting the Note 2, and kissing Sprints awful network goodbye. Far as the Note 3 goes if it was physically bigger than than Note 2 it would be a deal breaker for me.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Becareful cuz some of those that say 3g is horrid is cuz they are getting 500KBs instead of 6MBs. It doesn't mean they aren't getting service to make phone calls. Myself personally I would take 300KB with 20 ms ping time.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
500KB/s isn't even possible on Sprints 3g. Like, not even theoretically. The highest I have ever gotten was 1 ft away from my airrave, 2500kbps, which is 312.5KB/s.

Sprints 3g IS pretty horrid when compared to other carriers.
[Epic 4G General] andsamp:
Id check as well. But I don't think playing with the phones in the store would help gauge service as they probably have a fem2cell in the store.(to trick you ;-) )
[Epic 4G General] andsamp:
Is there voodoo color for the og epic? How can u tell if the color is off? Do u have to be on cm9 or aokp? I'm a touchwiz guy.(sounds a little gay ;-) )
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
There is voodoo color for the of epic. But there is a type of voodoo color built into the roms for the gnex. For the epic you can be on whatever rom as long as the kernel you have supports the voodoo sound app which has.. voodoo color control in it.
[Epic 4G General] tahlsr:
Anyone else in my boat want to share their strategy?

1.) I love my Epic and have had it for longer than any other phone. I'm a keyboard addict.

2.) I'm itching to switch devices.

3.) I do get decent 4G (Hartford, CT)

4.) I don't have a subsidized upgrade for over 1/2 a year.

Was going to buy a Epic Touch 4G (is this the best wimax phone?) on ebay, then sell my epic on ebay after I'm ok with the no keyboard for a week. Thoughts?
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
With the current state of CM9, I'm feeling less inclined to upgrade other than maybe for a larger screen until LTE actually gets rolled out in my area. The SGS3 is tempting though depending on how the Sprint version shapes up.