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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
dont get me wrong, i love cm. but clean is something else my friend. cm is not clean, you can tell me what you want. they accept commits untested. theres bugs which havent been checked for months. that surfaceflinger thing is one example, or try longpressing a notification to access its app-info. theres bad memory leaks in it making the phone slow if you dont reboot often. i see myself apologising almost on every page in this monster thread, and 99% its a broken cm feature because they are in constant nightly phase and that simply is not nice. they reached cm9 release canditate when jellybean was out. when they reach a stable cm10 KLP will be out.

my biggest gripe is, their features start to conflict with ours and its getting harder and harder to merge. take extended desktop for instance, they merged our implementation - but made it opt-in. its fine, but starting from today 99% of all PA roms will loose that feature because we dont carry their device trees. we could use our old implementation but it would create a mess because git-auto-merge can only do so much. its only one example of many but in essence i can NEVER expect a clean and working rom as long as im syncing their code and it starts to get tiring. they are doing one heck of a work and they are the most important rom on android - but there's a tradeoff im not willing to take anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rmonjay:
Please just don't forget there those of us that love this ROM and the per app functionality, but don't put the system ui in tab or phab mode. A lot of your tweaks are for the tab notifications and bar, but not much attention is paid to the phone ui. This is fine now, because CM is designed to take care of the phone ui. If you leave CM behind, please think about the phone ui too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] goan0900:
In Android 4.2 there is no Tablet UI anymore, so they have to take care of the Phone UI
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
well theres 2.52 introducing a colorpicker for the toggles. jesus could build it before cm merged extended desktop, i came to late. since they changed the device trees i had to merge because it would build no more. but that merge has made such a mess - i got it building but frankly i dont dare flashing that myself. thinking of it, in a couple of days these toggles will be obsolete anyway because google has finally perfected it. so i guess i'll be waiting for 4.2 sources instead. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
hybrid engine will be ported of course, thats the heart and soul of everything we're doing. feature catalogue will differ from cm-PA though, it will be simpler but we can still bring in additions that are useful. im not sure btw if tabUI is still there when 4.2 drops but we'll see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
we could talk about push pull rights for gerrit, then cm PA would have developers that can actively maintain the codebase.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aiinjylls:
I keep getting force closes with the clock
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tijmen:
Yeah, we'll see.

You can get it back building by editing this:

device/samsung/tuna/overlay/packages/apps/Settings/res/values/config.xml

Just remove the expanded desktop part and it's working again.

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No such problems here, try wiping the clock's data? Alarms give me a FC though, hadn't tested that...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
sure, but we dont have that in our repo : P

i merged it though, it should in theory work. fitsnugly unlocked it for tuna devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deepayanneogi:
If you are seriously going to give a thought to base on AOSP there are couple of CM features I will absolutely urge you to put into . < Dont get me too demanding but these are features I really use ;) >

1. Theme Chooser ( Absolutely this one ) And the future development they will put into Theme Chooser .

2. Lock Screen options

3. Battery style and Signal Style options ( another must )

4. Notification Light settings

5. Volume ROcker Wake
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rmean:
i wonder why there are no light controls built into Android..it's kind of nonsense i think.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tijmen:
You are aware that the 4.2 lockscreen blows the 4.1 and the CM lockscreen clean out of the water? 3, 4 and 5 should be rather easy to port, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for the Theme Chooser anytime soon...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ppog:
My two cents, for what it's worth (not much.....) but I agree with moles. Loads of times since 2.xx a lot of the few problems have been CM bugs, and I think that PA has reached the point now that it's big enough on it's own that being a "variant" of CM could hold it back, particularly as buggy CM11 nightlies come on stream. Clean AOSP PA with perhaps a few CM cherry picks is the way to go. Rock on guys, loving your great work :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deepayanneogi:
Yes I recently followed up with the 4.2 lockscreen review but there are small tweaks that are real good in CM ( like instant unlock on right pin , ie dont need to wait for pressing OK button ,.)

Bur without Theme Chooser it is a no go for me , absolutely cant leave this feature . :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marcoperro74:
Sorry Moles... A question... I really like your work and I think you are a great developper! I'm very interested to your future PA but I don't understand if it will also be available for those who will remain with gnex? Thank you very much for all ;)

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] liquid150:
I can personally live without the theme chooser, but that's because I am on DarkPA and Dax builds the theme into the ROM itself. I have built up a zipthemer that I apply every flash too. I like the look of a lot of stock, just like the tweeks he and I have added.

I rarely use the theme chooser anymore because most themes change things in ways that I don't like, despite having some stuff I love.

I just want to have the lock screen, status bar, and navbar tweaks we have already. If possible of course.

Sent from my Paranoid Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] curious_yellow_eyes:
Maybe I would just stick with the final cm version of pa, even if it means running a old version of Android. I don't think I could Live without theme Chooser, I change themes all the time because I get bored looking at the same style all the time. But, I couldn't go with plain cm either, now I've tasted different modes in app and everywhere.

Also, phone ui looks awful on large screens, and since I often run my phone through the tv (in tab ui with 100dpi)...

Looks like I have some hard decisions to make :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
either way, it'll be easy to port. i'd much rather bring it up and discuss it with the other pa guys, though. curious what they think about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
sure it will. you even helped get jesus a nexus phone. until 4.2 is out he'll enjoy google stock but then we start building.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rotary Heart:
Well I have to agree about AOSP more clean. I bricked my phone like 3 days ago and when I fixed it my phone downloaded the last update and I was pretty amazed on how good it was and my phone reboot like 2 times faster with it. I will still be getting the latest PA since I'm in love with it!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] liquid150:
One thing I really appreciate is the team's dedication to releasing quality products. I used to be a flashaholic, wanting to do it every night. I appreciate that you guys are taking the time to make things right. I only just moved to 2.51, but both 2.5 and 2.51 are good enough to be a full fledged stable release IMO. I haven't run into any bugs that I can blame on the ROM, but I may be a unique case. It helps that I live smack in the middle of the US, possibly.

Sent from my Paranoid Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
I still appreciate CM's code base and think they bring a huge amount of improvements to the table, occasionally a bug however, but that's to be expected.

Hardly the point however, the team should, and can, build with whichever code they feel benefits PA the most. I look forward to the "next" version whether it's based on AOSP with some cherry picks, or CM with some "debloat", etc...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lukemovement1:
You guy are aware on how the cyanogenmod team work right? In the past update to an Android version have been merged with there current repo. Because 4.2 is still jellybean I recgon they'll merge it with there current repo meaning all the mods will be kept. But this is just looking at what happened with gingerbread, well I think that happened anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
They'd have to rebase most of their mods, and perhaps some wouldn't even be needed any longer. I saw reference to the lockscreen on 4.2 being much better, so the current implementation would likely be scrapped.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
well, merging is not good enough, it just wont work that way.

toggles, out - or completely rewritten

lockscreen, out - or completely rewritten

clocktimer, out

camera, out

and thats just a few things, by no means will that be an easy task for them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] siealex:
No, no... no way back to aosp... CM is great...

I do not use themes, but I use screen color settings. I can't use this screen unless I increase blue 1.5x and slightly decrease red and green.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anoraknophobia:
Isn't that a standard feature of every custom kernel out there ?!

Never used that CM stuff for that so far.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sg1969:
this is exactly my thoughts, and exactly why it took PA to get me to use CM. The GNex is my first Android phone, but I have been following Android news for a while, and one thing I keep noticing is that there never seems to be a "stable" release of CM... always some beta or alpha or nightly.

I guess CM might not be the best ROM for Nexus devices, since we always get (and want) the latest stuff, so it's difficult for all these devs to keep up with custom ROMs all the time.

It's a shame because I have come to like the options it gives me, but I think as long as I have the hybrid engine I can live with any ROM. It would be nice to have someone carry on building the CM based one, but I 100% support moles' wish to go more AOSP.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] siealex:
Trinity? I haven't tried any kernels x. the stock CM one...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
mediafire just crashed. have to try it again. :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bram77:
If I'm correct this should be a working mirror for the most recent gapps: http://www.box.com/shared/99414df79322351192e8
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mrcojocaru:
Tried to download over 4G but it failed at 5 percent.. Cant wait to get home and download this
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bram77:
I've been using it since the 22nd without any problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bram77:
The rapidshare download is failing for me too unfortunately.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Hm. thought the OP would of remirrored it to Mediafire because he did mention that.

I'll download the ROM and remirror it myself since RS is fast for me because I have RS premium. Free users are limited at low download speeds.

A mirror will be up soon. Please give me thanks for this as I'm not using this ROM but will remirror it. I'll post links as its done uploading.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flukester69:
Ok so I assume the main link on front page is updated. The download is painfully slow. I'll get to work tonight on a mirror for you on my domain but if there is a quicker way to get this file I could populate it on 4shared and dropbox too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nordpolcamper:
Damn that looks ****in sweet!! I will try it as soon as the download is ready!

You should though take a step away from rapidshare, because they limit the speed to 30KB/s for non-premium users.

And a little question, is there any agenda as to what you will be adding in the future, something like a to-do-list?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhruvraj:
Beautiful concept, I've downloaded it this morning and playing around with it all this while.

Just as a feedback, the font set as Huge still appear small. DPI changer does not do the trick, as soon as I go above 192 - it stops being a tablet UI and reverts to normal phone mode.

The widget resizing needs a bit of work too, as it starts overlapping with top or bottom bordering icons.

The most annoying problem that I've noticed - is that now my WIFI keeps dropping every now and then. Now I also own a Galaxy Tab 8.9 - where EXACTLY the same thing keeps happening.

Same network where the phone (sans this tablet mode rom) works endlessly without ever dropping a WIFI - my tablet drops every now and then.

I find it extremely strange that now my phone is doing the same thing on this HYBRID mode :)

I'm using Franco kernel - latest.

Anyone else having similar issues? or its just a generic internal android bug that during wifi keeps battery consumption low or something and risks disconnecting WIFI ??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
In the process of uploading the ROM to Mediafire. Expect a mirror to be up in ~5 minutes.

Will update this post when it's done.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
visual impression of the last changes i made:

recents window looks pretty cool again, only that stupid gradient - i'll find it and black the background out like in stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nordpolcamper:
this is exactly what I want!^^ great job man
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
actually

there is :)

my plan is to pull this thing through in three stages:

layout, make tablet mode fit into our phones. this will include fixes like standard keyboard, phone dialer, recents window closer to stock, better looking notification center without the glitches like overlapping elements, etc.

system, at some point i will try to get that per app dpi thing going, this would heal normal apps which then could run in their default configuration without shrinking. maybe i'll look at that treshold aswell to bring it down a bit so that we could have tablet mode in dpi 240 instead. i fear though that this will kill tablet layout in most apps, so this is just a consideration for for.

interface, something like rom-control, with settings to play with. this i wouldn't start alone because i dont have the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
ParanoidAndroid0.1pa.zip (ROM Only) - Mirror @ MediaFire

MD5: 61D800D61A5E79DD72A982CC463A2470

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?j8eg1i0tuk0k38p

Hit the thanks button if this has helped you since I personally don't use this ROM but following it's development because it is a innovative idea and the final product I can already tell would be amazing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flukester69:
Yep it does look very sweet. Will give it a go tonight again with franco's latest.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
thanks, i've put it up
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sam razzy:
Wow.. nice work dude..

TapaTalk Gnex Galaxy Sii
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhruvraj:
so other than the WIFI drop problem, the notification LED does not seem to work on its own either. I confirm this while using whatsapp

---

SHOULD BE IGNORED

usual settings didnt work so i cleaned and re-did, works now. Sorry!!

the WIFI problem - persists for me... does anyone else face connection drops every 10-20 minutes? or maybe 1 per hour or so?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
maybe some quirks in the latest cm9 nightly. im running the repo sync every night so these things should get fixed by itself. tabmode has nothing to do with it thats for certain, im using it for ages now-. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nordpolcamper:
So by now the only extra settings we get aside from the standard ICS options are the Nova Launcher options or did I just misunderstand you, when you said you want to add rom control later, which would imply, that there is no rom control now, even though your screenshots look like they are there^^

I am definetly looking forward to the different DPI for apps^^

Sounds very promising, very very promising^^ If I had the knowledge, I would gladly help you, but sadly I dont -.-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dai323:
I agree and would donate often to support new hardware to continue the already great development of this ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
i hope its not more complicated than operating the damn git.

dude, ... dont get me started. im still pissed, although cooling down. our marked is hacked, gsf aswell of course. as far as im concerned everything downloads. ;-)

well, i do accept them now, needed some persuasion i guess. but really its fine. i dont need to compile that thing every day. its only awful when i fetch a repo and then compile everything in one go.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brunoisa10:
Very good Rom

Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
I think it is. And from what I've seen you would've to set up a server and other stuff which is way over my head.

I reckon it could be done as a XDA project but not just for one ROM that would be too much work.

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BTW I posted the wrong link.

This one is the correct.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ProjectMain
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brunoisa10:
Hi Moles

you were saying "no problem about sizing now"

I have an issue with the "Make Your Clock Widget" when I want to edit my widget it is not shown completely , making screenshot in 1 minute

the complete widget

little issue with ES File explorer when the nam of the file/directory is too long
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] the_f4b1:
Just installed this ROM...seems great so far ;)

Thanks for that!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] resynx:
Did you input the correct values for these apps in the pad.prop?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DAGr8:
Im just keeping up with the thread to be on same page figured I d help at the same time , he said 'not compatible' I made worng assumptions (again) .

okok i get the message no worries ..

/me is transparent again .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
nope, i said apps wont be too small. what happens there is that these apps per pad-default are projected at 210 dpi. they dont like it. so set them up at 320 dpi and it will probably be fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] resynx:
Anyone having issues with wifi dropping when phone off? Just randomly started happening the other day :confused:

And yes, it's set to always on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sweetpiggy:
I think it's kernel related... try others ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] motopuk:
Yep same here!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] h22man:
we dont need help with what is all ready accomplished.. what ever you do, ours is always better.. so keep on your gay note side..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LINKSLOVESANDROID:
dunno why your hating on the note. hardware wise, it wins. id trade my nexus 4 a note in the blink of an eye. but lets stay paranoid
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] paleh0rse:
I'm pretty damn sure your response is uncalled for... seriously.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KennyG123:
AHEM...Problem?

Let's play nice.

Respect each other.

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmanUV:
not to mention homophobic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mrcojocaru:
Inb4 banned camp
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] h22man:
just saying. why be nice to someone who takes moles idea to make money off of it and then try to help on the thread? now that just makes no sense to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] h22man:
off topic but just a few benches of this rom running the glados kernal. pretty damn good scores for the gnex 1600 MHz. mpu oc 103% 1634. 517 gpu. 110% core oc. recommended glados app for adjustments. up thresh hold 98 1500 sampling on demand
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
well, bugs happen of course - you just cant avoid them when writing code. cm usually has strict standards but things do slip in - especially when you try to make a base that was written for 4 devices run on 400. i think i'd much rather enjoy a stable and clean rom that is optimized for the device family. and for a change it will be nice to compile and you know what comes out - happened countless of times i sync, build, seems fine, release and wifi broken, bluetooth broken, data broken, this crashes, that crashes and it sucks blaming them because they're officially in nightly stage so these things are bound to happen.

--- but as i say, you will be able to choose. cm-pa will likely continue with help from guys like gangsterjoop. those of you who do appreciate simplicity and google experience + hybrid engine + a couple of nice cherry-picked features, well, you use that one instead. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cocchiararo:
Before knowing PA, i wanted toggles, mostly, so what you might do, sounds great :P

PA/cm10 with leankernel is "pasable" in those aspects that were WAY better on stock 4.1.1, but now i love the customization. No other kernel was as pasable.

you missed the point, stock/official roms seem better in some points, thats what i said, moles agreed, and both of you said "i also", but stated the oposite :P

Customs roms, with ther custom kernels, overclock, and all that bling, seem to run better, but the "constant" or "long run" performance is different

But, have you tried running 4.1.1 untouched for a week ?

Maybe things will be different when i get my nexus 4, and my phone has way more ram to use :/

Since kernels make somewhat of an important difference, maybe CM screws something compared to the stock kernel, dunno.

But in the long run, unless i reboot like... 2 or 3 times a day, performance suffers.

theme chooser might be a big choice for those who use it, i still have to take advantage of it.

The thing about OC, is that i do it cause performance is not on par with stock, so i try to get it somehow :(

I agree on 1 (tho i don't use it), 3 (only battery xD), and maybe 5.

1) out pls XD (or moded :P)

2) out or moded too

3) what is this ?

3) out xD

ps: moded = take the stock one and make it better

That COULD be added to the stock android kernel without screwing it, i guess ?

I agree on needing that on my GN, but since i will get a N4 with a different display, dunno :P

Slowly cherry picking the COOL and correctly working cm (or AOKP?) mods for the "stock based PA" could be cool too xD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nuwan32:
Hey moles is it possible to add an option to remove clock from lock screen. Because I think the see through lock screen is great, but with the clock it really clutters this up, specially if I lock it on my home screen coz I have a clock widget and the lock screen clock is right on top of it so neither are visible lol. Same goes for any app. Would be a great option. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] siealex:
3, 4, 5. Round battery style allows me to use only the builtin battery icon.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aiinjylls:
What was the last version number of the Paranoid Android that was built with stock?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nephilim:
What would also be a good alternative is making the transparent lockscreen 50% transparent or maybe give us percentage options :D

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] liquid150:
No, we essentially disagreed with you (and moles). The poster I quoted disagreed, and I agreed with him. At no point did either of us say "I also" in regards to your statement.

Sent from my Paranoid Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] siealex:
PA shows 10% more in antutu than stock.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] liquid150:
I have not run benchmarks, but I can say that running this ROM with the last Trinity kernel on the performance governor gives me perfect fluidity. No stutters or lag.

There may be bugs with CM10 that I do not really experience, but overall I am very pleased with the CM10 base.

Sent from my Paranoid Galaxy Nexus