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[General Questions and Answers] Product F(RED):
The original Evo 4G, I had, and I have the Sprint S2 right now. In terms of development, the original Evo had the biggest, most development community ever. It was definitely the biggest of any CDMA phone, and it even rivaled a lot of GSM phone dev communities. For a while, when XDA announced which phones had the most active communities, the HTC Evo was #1 or #2.

HTC phones, at least before they had this "HTC Bootloader Unlock" garbage, had the most diverse ROMs with completely new features added. For example Myn, who's probably the most famous Evo/Evo 3D dev added notification bar toggles, from scratch. Something that was exclusive to Samsung phones. He didn't port them, he made them. He created a roaming menu in his ROMs. He ported ROMs from GSM HTC phones like the Desire HD and Desire Z to the Evo. It was awesome, seriously.

Samsung phones (or at least the CDMA ones) tend to pretty much have ROMs that are all the same at the core, but some have slightly different features/tweaks. I'm a little disappointed, coming from HTC phones (Evo, Evo 3D, even though the Evo 3D didn't live up to the hype), but the raw power of the S2 makes up for it. Some ROMs come ICS themed which is nice, but within Android itself is the potential to throw widgets/launchers/themes around so it's not really anything special.

Personally, for diversity in ROMs I say HTC phones, however, Samsung allows you to root your phone out of the box. If you hold volume down and power when turning on the phone, it gives you a warning and then takes you to the bootloader. There is no bootloader lock, which I love. For raw power, I say Samsung for sure. Also, HTC phones feel more sold, Samsung phones are usually very plasticky but durable and really fast.

Sorry, I know my comment is all over the place. I'm typing this at 2:34 AM.
[General Questions and Answers] Rakeesh_j:
That was true for a while, however now that they lock the bootloaders pretty tight, and use closed source hardware, they are pretty much just limited to small variations of stock roms.

Take for example the Evo 3D community, it sucks for the most part.
[General Questions and Answers] Product F(RED):
I'm aware. I had a 3D. It didn't suck in the beginning, when all phones came with 1.4 hboot (which I had before I sold mine), but eventually development plateaued and all ROMs were basically the same, save for some tweaks or theme differences. Like you said though, HTC really messed up with the bootloader thing.
[General Questions and Answers] needspractice:
So is the Samsung Galaxy S's still have open source bootloaders? Or are any of them locked? Will I be probably safe with the Sprint Galaxy S III?
[General Questions and Answers] Product F(RED):
The Galaxy S was never locked down, but Samsung never openly said, "here, hack our phones". The SII (including US variants), when you boot them up while holding volume up, you get this screen:

After that, you get a screen that just lists the hardware variant and tells you if you're on official firmware or not. It also keeps track of the number of times you flash the device from the computer using a program called ODIN, which is used for flashing kernels, ROMs, and bootloaders (when your device is stock or if it's soft-bricked). After you flash, say, ClockworkMod Recovery, you can flash from there and it won't up the counter. You can also buy a little USB jig from Amazon or eBay that wipes the counter.

All in all, Samsung has been very open; they sent the CyanogenMod team a bunch of Galaxy S IIs when it first came out so they could port over CM7. It'll still void your warranty obviously, but it's not something they look down on, like HTC nowadays (which is a damn shame because HTC was great with developers). It doesn't look like the GSIII will be locked down either.
[General Questions and Answers] Rakeesh_j:
Samsung actually said that they won't lock their bootloaders unless google asked them to. Something tells me google won't be doing that anytime soon.
[General Questions and Answers] needspractice:
So what do you guys think? The Galaxy S III the best choice for me for my next cell phone? With Sprint that is. I shouldn't have to wait to long huh?
[General Questions and Answers] needspractice:
I do not want to go with the HTC Evo 4G LTE because of the root problems, the LG Viper I am sure is garbage, Galaxy S II is no comparison to the Galaxy S III, and the Nexus is coming up on a year old phone [Even though I love the support root apps they have]. I believe it should be an easy decision.
[General Questions and Answers] needspractice:
When will Sprint get the S III?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Singuy1234:
I am trying to decide between the International Note or the Att note (both being equal in price). My biggest concern is the video playback in browser (HD 1080p flash video) and 720/1080p mkv videos (using stock or 3rd party players). I found that there are some reports of choppiness with the ATT note in the "Att note vs International Note review" thread. How true is this? And is it still true after overclocking?

LTE is not very impt, but definitely a plus since my area is LTE ready. Biggest thing is video playback and web browsing experience(especially in flash heavy websites). I actually find my Tegra 3 Asus Prime to be less smooth than my current galaxy s2 smartphone (can be a resolution thing..).

I had the HP Touchpad before with the same snapdragon processor as the att note and it was pretty terrible at playing the type of files I wanted smoothly (ESPECIALLY IN BROSWER). That was using Webos, so it can be a different story here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Digital Man:
720p mkv play perfectly - no re-encoding required - but you are apparently still constrained by the 4GB limit, so full length movies are not possible in many cases.

TV shows average about 1.2 gig so its most useful for those.

If we ever get ICS, I assume the 4gb limit will no longer apply, only you will have to transfer files via wifi or use a card reader and transfer directly to the SD card - the retarded samsung/MS USB file transfer protocols still fail at 4gb even if the device can store larger files.

I have this problem with my galaxy tab 10.1 I can play re-encoded mp4 much larger than 4gb but they have to be transferred by wifi. I assume the same problem will exist with the note under ICS.

Edit: Apparently NTFS formatting of the SD card has been attempted, don't know if it is an effective solution to 4gb limit, haven't tried it myself: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/galaxy-note-can-now-format-sd-card-to-ntfs-file-system/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Singuy1234:
Thanks, what about 1080p flash in browser? My Galaxy s2 can do this on youtube without a problem (and on engadget), but I'm wondering if it's possible with the galaxy note att. I am sure the international version will fair fine.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Digital Man:
Yes, works with stock browser.

Tried Dark Knight 1080p trailer - plays fine.

NVIDA Pure Video 1080p test - plays fine.

Sharp Aquous Full HD 1080p test - plays fine.

1080p 30 fps 17Mbps HD Test Footage by DizzyDougTV - Plays fine

All were tested using LTE not wifi
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Don57:
Since the Note's screen is 800x1200, and one typically watches videos on the phone "sideways", there's no real benefit of watching video above 720p; the phone can only go up to 800p "sideways". Not only that, but because the screen is so small you likely won't be able to tell the difference in videos at resolutions higher than DVD-quality (i.e. 480p) anyway.

As for poor playback performance, I've watched a couple of YouTube videos in HQ and I find that there is the odd minor stutter here and there, but nothing to serious. I'm not sure how much of that is the result of network latency, though.

I've played DVD-quality videos (480p) -- copied onto the device memory; not streamed online -- with absolutely no issues whatsoever.

I've also played 720p and 1080p videos which were copied directly on to the device. There is occasionally a frame dropped here and there (most people wouldn't notice, but I'm pretty sensitive to that after years of messing around with video on computers) but I would say they play perfectly fine, also.

From my understanding, the newer I717 has more CPU horsepower and a GPU that is a little more than twice as fast. I would imagine this would make it better at playing videos than the older N7000 (i.e. international version).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Digital Man:
True, but he might want to output the video to a higher resolution display - I assume this thing has some sort of HDMI adapter.

Just my opinion, but 720p looks sharper than DVD quality to me even on a 5.3 inch display, though, granted, the difference is small.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] V8RWD:
Tried several MKV movies in 1080p (had to chop them up into smaller MKV size)..

Smooth as butter with Dice Player
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] V8RWD:
I should also mention that you would want a player that will leverage Hardware Decoding..

Tried turning this feature off in Dice Player for 1080p playback, and sure enough, it was choppy.
[Acer Iconia A500] mimeini:
Hi

I am currently trying to install thor_rom_v14.2.zip (ROM) to my

Pb liberty tab said to be the same as acer iconia A500.

The stuck version is android is 3.0.1

But every time I try to start it in recovery mode I get

"secure boot img SOS check sum fail!" and the boot process stops.

I've rooted it with gengerbreak

installed ROM manager from app store. It does not recognize the product under the installation and asks me to confirm that it is an asus transfomer which I did although it was certainly not an asus trnasformer. All the things I tried with ClockworkMod Recovery (CWM) led only to a boot that stopped by "Secure boot img SOS check sum fail!"

So I tried with acer recovery install v2.74. But here I got exactly same result. I could not get past the "secure boot img SOS check sum fail!".

So my question obviously is. How do I get about this "Secure boot img SOS check sum fail!"

Should I perhaps get hold of an older version of the Acer Recovery Installer that has ClockworkMod Recovery rev.1.3.4 by thor2002ro with it? If yes how to I get it?

Other proposals... could I do this in a completely different manner? like from a USB connection from a remote computer or with Unix dd command or???.. How could I get about this?

/Mikkel
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Running stock rooted rom, issues come no matter kernel I'm on, or rom for that matter.

1) Battery swap equals random reboots. The phone will reboot every five minutes or so. One fix I've found is to wipe cache, dalvik, and battery stats any time i swap. This sucks though because i shouldn't have to do that just from swapping battery.

2) Delayed text messages.

If I don't turn my screen on every ten minutes or so, my messages won't be delivered to me until several hours after being sent to me. Even with screen on, it will still do this often. One temp fix is to dial voicemail, resulting in 5-10 text messages being received.

As far as app inference, really the only thing i got with any major "mods" is setcpu with profiles set to low cpu frequency during screen off. Nothing I've tried (permission fixing, etc) has worked.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
[HTC EVO 3D] sitlet:
Have you tried just re-flashing a stock rom? Just like a Windows computer, wiping everything clean and re-loading the OS will help a lot of issues.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Are you on the latest software?
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
I've tried reflashing, superwiping, etc. By latest what do you mean?
[HTC EVO 3D] sitlet:
By latest I mean the newest. Which I believe is 2.17something.
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Yes
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
I can't really share much insight to the reboots - although I get them if I use anything but the stock kernel, they just happen once a day or once every few days, depending on the kernel. I am stock 2.17 rom with just a few mods on top of it.

I DID have texting problems, though. Randomly I wouldn't get texts unless I connected a phone call. As in I dial any number, let it ring, as soon as the first ring happens, I get all the texts I had missed at once. I had someone at Sprint rebuilt my text services from scratch, as he put it. Not sure what this involves or not and it took a lot of troubleshooting with no solution for this to come up. In fact, the guy was about done, hesitated and was like "I think I have 1 more idea..." and came up with that. I was told it would take a few hours to be done, then to reboot the phone, and all would be well. But there was no indication of when to reboot, so I guessed. Been fine ever since...

One OTHER thing I noticed on this version of the ROM is if I'm roaming or just in a really poor signal area, texts would be delayed by about 20 minutes or so.

Last suggestion is make sure you're on the latest baseband/radio. I wasn't at first because I read some people complaining about delayed texts when the update first released. But things have been far better since I've gone to the latest baseband and rebuilt my sms services. Plus I've read rom developers post that the latest rom builds require the latest baseband.
[HTC EVO 3D] runcool:
check your radio compatibility with the software you have installed.

Also turn your 3G off for a few hours to test that. just leave wifi on and see if you have same issue. :)

and who uses text messages through sprint anyway? use google voice. MUCH MORE SAFE! sprint records all data and refuses to delete. including picture messages. if you use googlevoice... no one can prove you're using your cell while driving. hahaha.
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Well i decided to do the bootloader update to update the firmware of the phone to comply with the newest rom. I haven't tried a battery swap yet, but the delay seems to be a little better, occurring less often. Perhaps since ding that i should try a full wipe, then reflash latest stock ROM. Wish me luck lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] scariola:
Perhaps try a different CPU switcher, go with no frills CPU in play store. Use that for a few hours.

Even though setcpu was better updated for evo 3d awhile ago, I found it still caused issues.

Other guess is the other battery could be bad. If you lay the battery flat on a table does it spin? If battery is swollen(can spin it on a flat surface), its bad.

Google + pertinent info = results
[HTC EVO 3D] jlechner:
Batteries were good. Since redoing the firmware update i don't appear to be having any issue. Thanks guys.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mikelebz:
Do you think we will suffer from this issue as the regular One X has? It seems to be a large-scale problem.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1574058

I really hope not.

We will be receiving our phones shortly. This can be the thread to discuss who has/has not received a defective device.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
i'll take a screenshot when i get mine to show you. :D:D:D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
You need to take a picture of the screen with a phone/camera, not a screen shot. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
um...duh.

edit: sorry, that was rude. i was being sarcastic..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mikelebz:
Thanks! HTC has acknowledged the issue, so I hope that they resolved it prior to US release! It's making the excitement and anticipation so much less enjoyable!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thinkhope:
this demo unit at a los angeles att corporate store had no yellow spots whatsoever. Played with it for about 10 minutes....good enough for me. I pre ordered at the store and I can pick up on the 4th.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
The displays on both One X's are the same. You guys are already getting both cool and warm displays. Unless the spots are Teg3 code/driver related (most of the graphics-related problems are) you'll get them too. A note, the international forum is very emotional so divide an issue at least by two when forming an opinion.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ricktat:
Maybe no yellow spots....but I think that's a ghost you caught
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maedhros:
Ugh... I don't get why HTC would use 2 screens. I ended up returning my unit because Rogers refused to exchange my phone.

It is really hard to live with the warmer screen once you see the cooler one.

People who settle for the warmer display are missing out IMO... The warm screen is nice... but the cool one is "wow" nice.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
Remember the iPhone 4s had yellow spots, it was from the adhesive not fully drying, they told the phone owners to wait a while and it would go away. Could be the same case.
[Nexus S General] Double 0:
I can't factory reset my phone.. the PC won't recognized it and when I got to reset it in the system settings.. it say "path is null"

any help guys
[Atrix 4G General] ufukcoskun:
It is a good job. I try this. Thank you.
[Atrix 4G General] exwannabe:
This is a very agressive aproach. /osh dose have some Moto magic sauce in it. How well can you drive the screnn with a stock X system? Most of the cutesy features from WT I can live w/o, but the "phone"app really is usefull. Seams like this would be worth the effort to figure out.

If I was using a less "pure" setup (spinning up X and the phone app in Motos osh) then bringimng up the desktop in Gentoo, how would that compare to oither the same concept with other distros?

Please post on. I think this is the first time somebidy has run a non /osh X. Would love to see if it really can be done.
[Atrix 4G General] Gendol:
Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, the approach is radical, but not as aggressive as you may think. All the "magic sauce" in /osh lives in /osr/usr/local/ and all of that is retained. The only problem is that some dynamic link libraries are missing, but most of these problems can be fixed.

They actually had to be fixed because the GenTop2 does need to send some magic signals to Moto's PortalApp/DockService to work correctly. This is done using the /usr/local/bin/rmtest tool via the "fbcp" instance of dbus.

Other than /osh/usr/local/, /osh is really just Debian.

With the phone app, you mean the green phone button? I just tested that, it can be added. The phone button is nothing but a .desktop mime file, which calls one of the magic apps /usr/local/bin/androidlauncher. And it popups up in the aiw display.

I even tested the HD Media Center laucher and that too worked without problems. That really should be included in the next GenTop2 tarball.

I guess I don't understand what you mean with a non /osh X. GenTop2 does run X11 and you really need to replace the system libaries to get a well-working Gentoo.

Greetings,

Gendol
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
Great job! Does this work with cm rom's aswell or only with blur based ones? As another fact, we could use distcc or crosscompile distcc to compile most of the stuff, actually even a crosscompile binhost would be doable for several packages. One more thing, we could probably use an .img file on the internal sdcard partition, that would be ext3/4 formatted instead of using the external sdcard (but probably its better and safer to sue the external card, due to the flash wear)

edit: so i tried it on my atrix with nottachtrix rom installed, it starts fine and seems to work rather well, i only saw two to me rather annoying bugs:

1. somehow the X server thinks that my tv (1080p lg) has a virtual size of 1366x768 and will not allow to use the 1920x1080 resolutions that are in the TV's EDID and that the system puts into the xorg.conf file aswell as it shows in the Xorg.0.log

2. the atrix's screen stays on all the time in the "normal mode" and if one uses the mouse on the gentop its moving and functioning on the atrix's screen aswell (ie you can launch apps by accident with the mouse in android)

I do not know if these are issues with nottachtrix or something else, but for me on the "normal webtop" 1080p worked on this same TV.

here the xorg log: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24268926/Xorg.0.log
[Atrix 4G General] markinhosmrk:
Really nice, installing it right now!

Does flash work on Midori?
[Atrix 4G General] Gendol:
I don't know about CM7, you'll have to try to replace the Linux system like moto does it.

The X11 screen size defaults to WebTop resolution 1366x768, but you can change that to 1920x1080 by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf. The first thing to try is to comment out all Modelines and let EDID detection do the work. But for that a monitor must be present, so you need to Zap (Ctrl+Alt+Bckspace) your X, and that brings up the dual input problem.

I also use nottach's ROM. The dual input problem happens when something in motorola's magic communication goes wrong. I have not been able to figure out how in particular moto disables input on the touchscreen. For me it works most of the time. I also have all the Modelines in xorg.conf enabled, because they fit my monitor.

I didnt really focus on Flash, yet. But as it works on the original Webtop, you should just be able to copy the plugin files.

Gendol
[Atrix 4G General] Vazay:
Can't get Midori working .. Got network (via ping), but no web browsing :confused:

EDIT: Solved by disabling proxy settings inside Midori
[Atrix 4G General] iolinux333:
i haven't run gentoo in over 10 years but this is tempting!!!!!:D
[Atrix 4G General] snik38:
Hello! I am a bit newbie in linux and i have 2 questions

1) Could someon please tell me how to install GenTop2-portage-20120424.tar.bz2 tarball?

2) Is there any way to install synaptic so i can install other linux apps?
[Atrix 4G General] Vazay:
1) use ADB and first post

2) Gentoo Portage - it's command line but very easy
[Atrix 4G General] nalorite:
Hmm, anyone using this with webtop over HDMI? I get the login screen, but the webtop touchpad thingie doesn't come up so it's impossible for me to log in.
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
you need to use a hd dock, lapdock or a modded powered usb hub with mouse + kb
[Atrix 4G General] snik38:
1) After the reboot i used

adb shell

# tar xvzf /sdcard/GenTop2-portage-20120424.tar.bz2

but it gave me an error, am i using the correct command or i should use something else?
[Atrix 4G General] Gendol:
Yes. The touchpad thingy is also an open end. I have no idea why it doesnt come up. The GenTop2 tries to do everything in the same way as the original one, but for some reason that doesnt appear.

I guess the touchpad is some Android program part of DockService or PortalApp, which drive the Webtop switch. But I havent debugged how to activate it.

@snik38

To extract a .tar.bz2 you use tar xvjf ...

Gendol
[Atrix 4G General] NickLatech:
three items one that caused some grief, but other than that this has lots of cool potential!

I have a stock rom with root.

1. resolution was pretty screwed up. I did try to adjust the resolution, but it was locked into one setting.

2. flash isnt installed on the browser so many websites where disabled.

3. I could not get AIW to start.

I see you answered #1 in a previous post. But I think all three of those items are minimum requirements to replace webtop. BTW great job again! Its seemed much faster than the webtop app.
[Atrix 4G General] Vazay:
2. Try to copy the flashplugin from original webtop(not sure if it works with midori)

3. aiw works fine try to reboot the phone
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Took me a while to get this all running, but it's great now it is. Have this over Nottachtrix 1.3.1. Everything installed and works fine!

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] Alaq:
When my phone turns on and gets to the preparing sd, it takes forever. Does this happen to anyone else?
[Atrix 4G General] klobass:
anyone tried to emerge chrome/chromium?
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
No ideas here. Waiting for a response from Gendol now! :-)

Off to bed after wiping and restoring from nandroid and stock webtop again. Will hope for a solution when I wake up in the morning!