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[HTC Amaze 4G] pavoid:
AJ, I may only be official for 1 month but that does not signify how long I have been observing these threads without posting or discredit my opinion.

I've just read many replies where you were either wanting to enforce the op's request or advise members that there is a similar thread they are creating clutter and so on.

I'll own up to my sarcasm being unnecessary and for that I apologize. All in all I was just trying to get the point across that yes there are rules and yes repeated threads can be annoying but that doesn't mean we have to go around and regulate(unless you're the Mod of the forum). Repeat questions and over stated opinions are going to happen. It's inevitable, it happens in most every forum.

Once again I apologize for the sarcasm. Your opinion is worth just as much as everyone else's.

Accepted?
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Good with me. And Its not that im trying to regulate, more trying to inform or bring to peoples attention when they are creating a duplicate thread to avoid ending up with 12 ics threads again lol. Im not trying to enforce anything, just trying to help keep things smooth and organized as possible

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[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Me too
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
After looking at the demo video I was expecting a huge list of new and improved things. HTC's version sucks. I want the mainly the stock versions of the apps on the list.

The list is as follows:

1. Stock lock screen. I absolutely despise the HTC Ring b.s.

2. Stock app drawer. Swipe right to left, not up and down.

3. Stock messaging app.

4. The new pattern unlock look. We have the old one.

5. Stock calendar app. (It has color organization, I don't see it on my HTC)

6. Timelapse feature for my camera. I don't have it.

7. Video snapshots. I don't have it on my camcorder.

8. People app.

9. STOCK DIALER. One of the most attractive features of stock ICS. I MOTHER EFFING HATE THE HTC DIALER!!!!!!!!!!!!

10. Visual voicemail (part of the dialer app)

11. Reject call with text. Can't do that because I don't have THE STOCK DIALER APP!!!!

12. Stock ICS Wallpapers

SENSE IS A PIECE OF SH!T!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Did u try apex launcher with ADW ics theme yet? It has all above. Use it with widget locker. Trust me on this.

I upgraded my wife's MT4G to an AOSP 4.0.4 ROM and it looks very similar... Except no super sexy notification menu.

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
i was looking forward to the light blueness too..... All we got is light blueness wanna be mixed with a sh!t load of green..... Yay welcome to the gingerbread look....
[HTC Amaze 4G] pavoid:
Paranoid Android

Paranoid as I am, I am going to go ahead and root my Amaze. I have the ICS leak on it now but I want to try out the theme electronicrice made and rooting is the only way I will be able to.

I know me, and I know that I will question EVERYTHING while attempting to do it. Considering that I don't know how to "push sdk to system" what a all-in-one toolkit is for and so on I will need the most comprehensive guide available. I have read over the one that is sticky'd in this forum by binary but since I have no frame of reference with any of this it is still "sharky waters" for me.

Any other materials/videos/guides so on that can be recommended to me before I risk having to post a thread title "Oh no! Amaze bricked/constipated"?

(p.s.- I'm not being lazy or unwilling to read. It's just even after reading until I actually do it myself it will be considered the super unknown)
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!!!

Oh yes he did, gurl. Yes he did!!!!

I have a lot of love for AJ but at the same time I agree with you.....

XDA IS FOR POSTING OPINIONS....
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
omg thank you jezus that's exactly how i feel.....

My energy rom was more useful than this bullsh!t!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Ok I know this may be completely off topic but can someone please clarify for me what baiting stands for..... Debating?

Because as far as I know..... baiting is a slang for MASTURBATING!!!!

So it sounds kinda wrong...
[HTC Amaze 4G] pavoid:
Say if you were to post something passive aggressive towards another user. That could be considered baiting. You're not "technically" doing anything but you're still going to get under their skin and cause them to want to react. Like fishing but without a hook and on the interwebs instead of in the free and open waters.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
I am in love with Apex Launcher....

But the problem is exactly with the lock screen....

I am in love with the face unlock.... but when it doesn't recognize me.... it locks the screen back up..... then I unlock the screen.... it gives me a blank face unlock (black screen in the middle of the screen with the clock and swipe (left and right) unlocker.....) ....... then I have to press the power button AGAIN.... just to get to my pattern unlocker

I DO love the launcher..... but EVEN WITH THE APEX LAUNCHER.... WE ARE MISSING A LOTTTTTTTTTT OF FEATURES..... I MEAN SERIOUSLY....

WE DIDN'T EVEN GET THE NEW SNAPSHOT EFFECT......

I bought HTC because of Sense because Gingerbread looked like cow doo doo..... Now I'm regretting my choice.... FML FML FML FML FML FML!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH BAITING LIKE FISH BAIT..... I GOT IT!!!!! DUHHH! Wow I feel stupid!
[HTC Amaze 4G] PeartFan40:
I asked you two to stop. Take it to PM please....

You don't have to be a farmer to know what sh*t smells like.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Ahh come on honey, don't start hating me now, lol. I completely agree that people should post their opinions and when I posted my original comment I had actually forgot that this thread was about not liking sense, lol I kno, but it would have been a great to have this from the beginning so people had somewhere to talk about it. I was referring more towards the random posts throughout the other threads but w.e

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[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
look above:

anyways, I used to hate sense, i mean hate it. there are so many hidden features of sense that you really have to dig in to find out what it is capable of doing. sense is not just that big clock in the middle of the screen. I just found out today that sense has its own sms backup. yea I sound like a newbie, but this is a very usefull feature that I don't know if aosp has.

AOKP IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I use VidTrim pro for video snapshots... Frame by frame it allows you to grab a frame and capture it as a pic

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] pavoid:
[/QUOTE]If anyone is looking for someone to flame, they should look for the pretend devs that release ROMs without testing first and get shocked when the sound doesn't work. :D

Sorry for off topic, but I don't think anyone can talk the OP into liking 3.6 ;)

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6[/QUOTE]

Hi gg, If you read through everything you'll see that I misunderstood aj's intentions and have apologized.

Anyhow, have good day.
[HTC Amaze 4G] PeartFan40:
Time for a little thread clean up. Those of you who continued after my two warnings will be hearing from me. :)

You don't have to be a farmer to know what sh*t smells like.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
My appologies man I honestly didnt even see this post. I think I may have been typing my post I posted 2 mins after urs. Either way, we worked it out, and I didnt intentionally ignore ur request I just didnt see it...

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[HTC Amaze 4G] PeartFan40:
No worries. Just use PM for stuff like that. Trying to keep threads clean. :)

You don't have to be a farmer to know what sh*t smells like.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Now that I have answered your commentary.... let me explain what's the main thing wrong with all the things you said.....

I have a ICS SENSE ROM..... its already bloated with bull crap from Tmobile and from Sense....... (already making ICS not as fast as it could be....) .....

SO NOW.... I HAVE TO ADD ALL THESE EXTRA APPS JUST TO TURN MY PHONE TO STOCK ICS..... WHICH IS UTTER BULL CRAP....

HTC should let us choose.... whether we want all that crap or not..... I got the phone for the camera.... not for bloatware and crap!

SENSE DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE ICS..... THERES VIRTUALLY NO TRACES OF LIGHT BLUENESS ANYWHERE..... ITS STILL GREEN....

I TRUCKING HATE THE COLOR GREEN, SPECIALLY LIGHT GREEN.

So let me ask you a question....

How fair is it... that HTC stuck all the old apps that I had with my gingerbread..... and ruined the look and feel of ICS..... and took away all the attractive features of ICS ........????

How fair is it... that I have to download MORE apps, just to get my ICS to look like ICS... OR EVEN WORK RIGHT..... ?? SO I HAVE TO TAKE UP SPACE ON MY PHONE WITH EXTRA APPS.... And some apps don't work all that well with Sense apps....

I STILL DON'T SEE THIS COOL NOTIFICATION BAR.....

This is complete and utter horse doo doo!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Opentang:
This thread is wild....
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Just the way you said it, sounded kinda rude.... I don't like rudeness...

Plus I understand where you both are coming from, specially from your side.

But the reason why I posted this was out of pure anger..... and frustration....

All this waiting and drooling and sleepless nights of studying and researching...

All for nothing..... I am beyond pissed....

The only attractive feature I have noticed on my ICS is the super quick boot up time....

You know I have nothing against you..... you're cool people's .... you're one of the first people I spoke to on here when I first joined....
[HTC Amaze 4G] PeartFan40:
I'm not trying to convert you or anything, but Samsung phones have tons of dev support. They also come with unlocked bootloaders. If HTC has you down, Samsung.might be worth looking into.

You don't have to be a farmer to know what sh*t smells like.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
also they come S-OFF (technically even though only htc devices have this) so right off the bat you could flash kernals radios splash screens Etc
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
if there was a de-thank button i would totally do it right now cause samsung sucks!! :p lol JK

i actually like samsung, but there build quality seems cheap to me. but there hardware is good. and ive only went wrong with samsung once. (when i got the intercept lmao! samsung should be ashamed of that phone)
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
haha, ok you gotta calm down...First of all it's just a phone!! I'm not trying to fight you and I understand where you're coming from. it's not the end of the world.

When you buy any product you buy everything that comes with it.

If you'd bought a galaxy nexus, then you would not have a good camera but be up to date with ics and all its aosp goodness, like you like, months ago. can't have the best of everything.

you gotta realize everyone wants something different. not everyone is the same, and it is hard to please everyone. Honestly to this I have not seen a perfect phone, because a perfect phone for me is different than one for some other person.

I wish I could mix the features of mercedes, bmw, audi, infiniti, volov etc.

Also when you buy a car they are not even obligated to update anything on there for you like navigation or anything like that.

Same goes with any product like a phone. HTC is not even obligated to update anything, why should they? you bought the phone as it was. You buy a phone, and you better take what comes with it. Yes I love the camera, and initially I hated sense sooooo sooo much...now not so much.

anyways, all in all...its just a phone. There are far more important things in life. I wish I didn't have a debilitating illness, but what can I do? when I compare a phone to my health, I'd rather have no phone forever and be healthy...I hope you're always healthy and well.

P.S. give it sometime, someone will come out with a good aosp or aokp for the amaze :), ics just got leaked a few days ago...and it's not even the official one ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
They camera sucks....... my phone has to have a superior camera.... THAT'S A MUST....

I catch people slipping all the time.....

( http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1723123439004.2087034.1265880028&type=1&l=c646d67ed6 )
[HTC Amaze 4G] PeartFan40:
At first I thought Samsung phones were cheap. But after having owned a few of them, that's far from the truth. Most of the recent high end variants have Gorilla Glass © and use high quality plastic. They are durable to say the least. I've yet to break one, and I can be rough on my phones. Although I'm more careful with my Galaxy Note. ;)

You don't have to be a farmer to know what sh*t smells like.
[HTC Amaze 4G] adslee:
This thread makes me lol. Seriously, you bought the wrong phone if HTC Sense pisses you off this much.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
U got it wrong though, she said earlier that she likes sense.. I think its just sense 3.6 she doesnt like..

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[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Well im sorry in no way did I mean to ne rude, I just try to get straight to the point. But u already kno, ive been there with u since the beggining, and juat like I told u the first time, I have a feeling that the same person is whats going to make u happy... A NRG ics rom :)... And it will be here very shortly :thumbup:

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[HTC Amaze 4G] adslee:
I don't get it, I've never liked Sense's colour scheme and glossy bars, that's why I've always used a matte or ICS theme on top of any ROM I could find. Sense's obtrusive (to those who prefer AOSP) has always been a problem and it shouldn't be anything new in Sense 3.6, especially since people are already making themes to get rid of that atrocious green...
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
I keep on seeing people mention the fast boot up time, and every time I wonder if they have disabled the fast boot option under power settings-- it is still faster than on gingerbread, but I'm starting to think everytime someone mentions that it is because they aren't truly doing a full boot.. and I can't remember all of the reasons, but I remember reading that turning that off is a good idea.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
When I boot up it takes me long as hell without fastboot
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Yeah that's the reason... It boots in about half the time still imo, but not under 10 sec lol :D

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
It didn't piss me off before because gingerbread sucked basket balls!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Ok I'll clarify....

I had the G2x prior to this Amaze. G2x was so stock and so boring that I RAN to Sense Rom...

NOW

That Google finally stepped it up a few notches..... I am mad as hell.... because Google has came out with all these great things..... and since Sense was suppose to be superior.... I expected HTC to acquire these features and add them to Sense........

Not leave them out of the device all together.....

This whole time I was so happy and geeked over this ICS update..... that is lacking all the things I really was looking forward to in ICS......

See what I'm saying???

I thought HTC would add all of Google's new features to Sense rom...... NOT leave them out like little beachez!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
It's all good... I'm not upset / mad / or whatever..... trust me I was raised by men..... Plus the Energy rom was the best thing that has ever happened to my phone...... I hope NRG releases another rom.... SOLAR ENERGY ROM... lol...

I am so mad I lost my Energy rom....
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
If it makes you feel any better, I don't think this is the final release of ICS for the amaze. I think this might be an alpha or at most beta. I bet when the official one comes out it'll but quite different, or else it wouldn't have taken this long. This leak was makred march 15, its no almost may. stay tuned. even worse case, there are a few people working on aosp and aokp...so don't worry :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
I honestly don't think it took so long for HTC to develop this update and its missing virtually all the important things..... and then a month or two before the release they will shove all the important stuff in there.... it makes no sense....

Plus I am disappointed about the dialer..... its the #1 thing that drives me crazy.... its been driving me crazy about the Sense rom... and it looks like its not going anywhere.... sigh!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] ce3jay:
I too dont like Sense. At one point I did, then I realized it takes up precious resources. I had the Glacier with AOSP rom. I loved the blue colors...my fav color is blue, go figure lol. Now closest I can get is the Apex launcher, with everything else being ugly sense. Can't wait to get the real ICS look, and looking forward to an ICS kernel.

Btw, anyone know a way to get Apex launcher to display 6 icon rows in the drawer instead of 5? To me, its too spaced out lol.
[HTC Amaze 4G] pavoid:
Launcher

Right now I'm using the Trebuchet(sp?) launcher. Is Apex launcher better?

I'm not rooted so I cannot use widgets on either. ( I don't really use widgets anyways though )
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I like Apex better. They are almost identical.... But apex allows long press home screen to add widgets.

All these girls excited Oooo ya know they like it I'm so icy, so icy Girl don't try to fight it All yo friends invited I'm so icy, so icy
[HTC Amaze 4G] pavoid:
Thanks GG. Have you by any chance tried electronicrice's AOSP ICS Theme?

I have heard it has the icy blueness. People seem to like it. :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I have not yet... I've been to lazy to dl on my laptop that has a cracked screen and am serving time on a data throttle right now :-/

I couldn't even get screen shots to load cuz of the slow data speeds... I WILL BE TRYING it though :D

All these girls excited Oooo ya know they like it I'm so icy, so icy Girl don't try to fight it All yo friends invited I'm so icy, so icy
[HTC Amaze 4G] pavoid:
Whenever I get rooted that will be the first thing I want to try.

( unless a solid ASOP or CM9 ROM is out )
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
To the OP and anyone else who wants to try to make it more aosp, post #7 and #12 of this thread have the native ICS apks that you can try to install to replace the sense versions.

Personally, I'm gonna give it a go this weekend to see which works and what doesn't, but I have a feeling most of the concerns in this thread can be addressed.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Trebushet???? That's my favorite font!!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
I'm Icier!!!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
You should hit up your local library.... specially a huge library......

Downtown Chicago has an amazing Library called Harold Washington Library..... their wifi speeds are goooooooooooooooooood and fast!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Same here!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
Seriously.... good looking out!!!!

I have been looking for original individual replacement apks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] F9zSlavik:
"Relax" Lmao funny. But yeah I felt the same way, 3.6 sucks bad it really does take away from ics. I wonder if 4.0 sucks too. Anyone had a chance to use and compare it to 3.6?
[HTC Amaze 4G] CalicoJeb:
Yup deduct 10% of total thanks for saying that :)

BTW - Very witty posts mznatnat, have enjoyed reading, Plus I agree with you, I too am patiently waiting for AOSP

My phone never looks like Sense, I always change the theme same day after loading a new ROM
[HTC Amaze 4G] darth_09:
hey ppl.got a question.is it possible to pinch out on the stock browser(ics sense 3.6) to automatically switch to tabs view similar to sense 3.0? it's really annoying having to click settings then windows to switch between tabs.thanks.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rachelm920:
Try this theme. Looks more like ics http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21807032&postcount=39
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
3.6 and 4.0 are almost exactly the same. 4.0 has better animations and clock and a few better features. But they are still both sexy.

Its about preference. My friend has the galaxy nexus. Ics on that is boring. Looks so watered down. Just lines and letters.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Xcor3:
For me, having sense doesn't hurt me. heck, there's a lot of options for home launcher, lockscreen, etc. go to thr market and download them. You cant beat the camera app on this thing.
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
I wanted to let you know your thread inspired me to actually PUBLICLY share some of the crap I do.. what I just posted has everything working(as you ordered it, lol)- except I couldn't get the phone and contacts working(so those are still HTC).. they just seem too tied into the system.

Anyways, so here is a link to the ROM thread if you want to try it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25467890
[HTC Amaze 4G] stevedebi:
NRG ICS ROM has the blue theme.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
No it doesn't. It has the energy blue theme on a sense 3.6 overlay. Nothing like AOSP ICS. Not even same color blue. Look at screenshots. It looks just like every other energy rom.

Sent from my iced out HTC Ruby
[HTC Amaze 4G] stevedebi:
I've not seen stock ICS, just the blue in NRG. I've always used his ROMs. But thanks for the tip.
[HTC Amaze 4G] atrako1973:
Why would anyone go for an HTC phone if they hate sense is beyond me,plus there are so many tools out there to get rid of sense complitely ,there are so many launchers out there too to replace sense, sky is not the limit guys. This is android
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
I understand trust me.... I am using Apex Launcher (recommended by GlacierGuy) and the fact that my dialer and everything else is still stock as hell.... it drives me crazy.......

I WAS PROMISED BY GOOGLE A KICK A$$ ROM... COOL DIALER AND ALL.....

I WONT LET HTC TAKE THAT AWAY!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
I WOULD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE TO TRY YOUR ROM OUT.... I JUST READ THE DESCRIPTION IT LOOKS GOOD AS HELL....

But idk how to reroot my phone.... i still have s-on .... i have been away from xda for a few days and idk if they came out with a root option for ics leak yet....

and I am absolutely flattered that you were inspired by my post.... I am glad my post got so many people talking, and thinking. This makes me happy!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
if 3.6 sucks.... more than likely HTC found a way to screw up 4.0 as well.... SENSE was a great way to make stock gingerbread crap go away..... but ICS is the best the way it is.... and HTC can't get with the program...
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
This theme looks hot.... I shall download it.... will try it when i root my phone..... because as of now I have too much crap going on in my phone....
[HTC Amaze 4G] stevedebi:
All you have to do is unlock the bootloader and then install a custom recovery, then the superuser program. I obtained root after flashing my stock Amaze.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
May I point out your wrongness???

First off... I got my HTC SENSE phone because at the time Gingerbread was available and stock Gingerbread sucks basket balls....... Plus I loved the idea of the dedicated camera buttons.... the bada$$ camera.........

Second of all.... While replacing launchers / sense stock apps..... you are not helping your phone.....

for instance..... Replace a the stock lockscreen with WidgetLocker like I have....... My replacement lockscreen is not acting right...... sometimes I have double lockscreens even though I turned that feature off......

Not all market apps interact in peace and harmony with Sense......

Try using RocketDial with SENSE...... go ahead.... I'll wait for the results......

Bottom line is....... Replacement apps from Market are not always the answer, specially on a Sense Rom.....
[HTC Amaze 4G] soundping:
I Sense a Disturbance in the Force...

It would be nice to customize more. After T-Mo releases the official update I'll look forward to rooting and all that good stuff.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Misfit installed aosp apps on their phone and replaced 3.6 apps and got it to work ok.

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6