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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eddog4DROID:
I was looking at the tablets at Best Buy last night. I knew ICS was a available for the Sony Tablet. And checked. Yup, went ahead and updated it for them. Bet the salesmen didn't even know it was available. Lol. The Sony tablet. I went home back to my GTab and all its 3.2 glory.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] adamski123:
lool i did the exact same thing with a asus transformer!! ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] badogg:
I think the expectation of a new OS version (3.2 to 4.0) is a little bit of sense of entitlement that seems to be rampant among Android device users. Like they owe you ICS or Sense 4.0 or whatever it is. I think they should be expected to release some OTA's that patch up bugs or increase performance on the devices OS as it was originally designed. Nothing more. A whole OS upgrade is just icing on the cake.

Just my opinion though, flame on!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Panos_dm:
You are not entirely wrong. I agree with you to some extend but a new release "supposedly" improves the overall experience. Yes, the old bugs may be gone and yes new ones arive so a patch is better sometimes. I like major updates better though. The biggest problem is that Google allows the manufacturers to set their standards and to decide with devices to update. That's why the best choice we have if we want on-time updates is the nexus line. Or hope that Google will release solid hardware requirements for each update. I bought the tab waiting for ics and I am well aware of the fact that Samsung won't update it past that. The rest I leave it to the marvellous xda community!

Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Joe T:
No disrespect or a flame... BUT...I don't think Android would be where it is today if manufacturers didn't support their devices through OS upgrades. Especially not for the price they are asking for these phones and tablets.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TabGuy:
I understand your point. However, maybe I'm not the one to ask. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which does have ICS and I don't see enough difference between HC and ICS to get very excited about.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
Many things stated here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x

To name the most intersting one:

-Enhanced speed and performance

-Hardware acceleration in the UI

the other features are "nice to have" none the less, but speed, performance and HW acceleration is surely something worth the switch!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ezio84:
I've a Nexus S and a Tab 7510: the first one (with ICS 4.0.4) has better perfomance, you can see differences in daily use... And there's no lag.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] giltwist:
@baddogg

I think part of that sense of entitlement comes from the fact that samsung agreed to update all of their android devices for the first 18 months of life. I got my 10.1 as soon as a store had it in stock, and that was less than a year ago.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kta:
Software upgrades also enhance the user experience of the product. It is in the manufacturer's interest to release updates if the hardware supports it. Most high end devices get at least one major software update in its life cycle because the hardware usually supports it, being it Android, iOs or any other platform.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TabGuy:
This presumes the consumer knows this. Most of the people that I know that own tablets have no clue about upgrades. They don't expect one. They don't really care if one is coming. They're just happy with the tablet as it is.

In fact, if anything, they're afraid of an upgrade. Often, to the average user, it means that a product that is functioning perfectly good has a chance to be broken with an upgrade.

Years and years of conditioning by their workplace when a computer tech comes in to "upgrade" their computer only to leave it functioning worse than when they arrived has conditioned them to "fear the upgrade."

And, I gotta tell you, when the upgrade does come, I'll wait a minimum of 14 days until I press the upgrade button. I'll let those here be the guinea pigs so I don't have to suffer. My Tab is a tool, an important tool, that I use every day and I can't afford down time. Thanks, in advance, for your help.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GorillaPimp:
Excelsior
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GorillaPimp:
If we were only talking about low-end devices I would agree with your entitlement remark. OS upgrades on high end Android devices is standard marketplace practice. Releases for Android come frequently and many of the bug fixes and enhancements you speak of are contained within these.

Should I feel entitled to receive what I paid top dollar to obtain? Absolutely.

But as a wise old gunslinger once said "deserves got nothing to do with it."
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] evegas316:
still waiting

All this talk of an official ICS update for my Gtab got me excited too. I just restored my nandroid of the stock image on my 10.1, and ran through like 3 software updates from samsung but no 4.0 goodness.

I think I'll just enjoy good o'l laggy honeycomb till it comes out.

I'll keep you all posted.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GorillaPimp:
I would do the same but stock makes my P7510 too irritating to use. Memory management is horrible.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] evegas316:
Agreed.

I do like having my camera back though.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GorillaPimp:
I never bothered with roms that had gps and cam problems. I'm using Overcome. Much better memory management. Way more stable in general. I was pretty pissed off when I had to reboot multiples times during the day on stock. Thought about getting an iPad at that point. My only complaint now is battery life. I haven't bothered testing out any new kernels since ICS was around the corner. Just for kicks I'm trying to write this with stock Skype and it is a fudging nightmare. I like my Samsung hardware but I doubt I'd ever give them money again.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kta:
Most customers would not know when and if an upgrade is coming, but when it comes, it gets trickled to them via auto-updates, notifications and other various means.

It's good practice not to update immediately when an update is available, but personally i would want to hit the upgrade button 14 days BEFORE the upgrade comes and not after :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
I think most of us (XDA Dev users) would. Galaxy devices are reknown to be almost unbrickable, that's the main reason I got a Galaxy Tab, to fool around.

I know most of the users don't know what "root" or "download mode" means, but we are amoung savvy users here, it's the whole point of this site, test and try stuff out to get the most out of our devices
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] samwest39:
i was told some people are getting the update today if you are on stock where can i flash the stock virsion is it on samfirmware?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ROB281:
Look in the how to root thread
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] samwest39:
i know how to flash i was looking for the most stock rom i can flash
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Towle:
Download from SamMobile and flash in Odin as PDA. That's as stock as you can get.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Obsessive:
Unfortunately I'm in the same boat. I've been pretty frustrated with my tab and Android. Mostly because of the app selection. I mean, HBO Go STILL isn't available for my tab. Running HBO Go through the browser is not an option.

I have given my Samsung tab to my 3 year old and I bought a new Ipad instead. I'm quite happy with my decision.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Towle:
Does your iPad give you HBO Go? And yeah blame Samsung for HBO not making their app compatible with Samsung's tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] animatechnica:
REALLY?? I watch HBO GO via the browser no so why isnt it an option? Create a bookmark place it on the desktop and its like having an app
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
Man this is almost getting to be too much. I never have gauge time lines like this for my iPhone. I've had my tab for less than a week and already I'm very disappointed in the support it gets vs that of my iPhone or even the iPad. If it weren't for unofficial ICS roms I would not be using it still.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Panos_dm:
So what? Who cares? Come on guys this isn't an "ithing vs android thread"... And about the apple updates...when does an update becomes usefull? When it is jailbroken. (If you are in the xda and care about modding, you know what I mean)...It takes weeks or months to jailbrake a new update.(and I mean untethered jailbrake) That's when most of the power users update....Rooting is much faster...And even an unrooted android is far more versatile than an unjailbroken iphone.

Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
I care. I care that Samsung has not been open on the real status of the updates, I care that its still not here after being promised that it would be by now, I care that I have to use a from with no camera. And comparing them to the current number 1 industry leader in smart phones is only natural. It's no wonder Samsung isn't number one when they treat their customers like this.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DannyBiker:
Hey guys, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v user here...

...so quit complaining.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] animatechnica:
Lol did you check your stats lately? Samsung passed apple for most smart phones worldwide. And guess who builds apples processor for their phones and ipads? Samsung... so no apple is not the leader in smart phones.

What about apple's antennae gate - they tried to blame the user first before they got pmmed down on thier design flaw...how long did that take? So what is it about ICS that you make it like it's the end of the gadget if it is not there? I say this as i just finished watching game of thrones via hbo go on my tab and enjoying pandora while is type. Point is there is nothing preventing me from enjoying my galaxyrom based tab right now
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Just_Another_N00b:
No the good thread for this...

Well, then do something about it, and please do not deviate from the intended subject of this thread. There are enough i-stuff vs others forii, and this is not one of them. I understand your frustratrion, but if you are unhappy about the SGT, then sell it, buy an iPad and kindly leave here.

We -all- are frustrated by the tardiness of the update, but we are not here for the tomato-tomatoe discussion.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
Lol did you check your stats lately?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/samsung-coyness-puts-smartphone-crown-204323689.html

I don't think so, Tim. Apple is still has the best selling handset out there. And who cares who makes what parts? It's all about how you put them together, how you present it and how you support it. And the antenna gate was the fault of the person using the phone. All phones have signal attenuation, but I guess you missed the video Apple put out showing other devices doing the same thing.

Point is, Samsung is doing a terrible job of being transparent with these updates. First we're told one thing, then another, now we're being told it might be even longer. I came from an HP TouchPad with CM on it so I haven't known anything close to official support, but so far from what I've seen with this Galaxy Tab, I'm not too impressed. And a lot of people are quite angry judging by some of these forum posts.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dylando808:
I'm not really surprised. But I really should very known better when I bought my Galaxy Tab. But it was the one Android tablet that interested me. And now ill have to wait like most other people. I would root but I want to wait until the official updates gets released not just because I want to see how it would look stock but by the time it's out the Devs here will probably have a stable ICS build.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ganiman:
This thread is way to whiny. If you think Samsung sucks, then stop using their products. If you think Apple is better, then go to some Apple forum. This thread has run it's course - a moderator should lock garbage like this.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BlakMajick:
I second that emotion!! It is serving no purpose rehashing the same old observations. Everyone who did their research before purchasing knew the track record for Samsung. If you wanted speedy updates you should have gotten a Xoom or Transformer.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Just_Another_N00b:
And a +1 from me. But now we are ourselves polluting this thread. ;)

By the way, even in Canuck-land the update still has not arrived, and we seem to be getting it earlier... Probably to be the Guinea-pigs. Galaxy IIs also has some ICS upgrade issues all over the world, so who else then the 'friendly neighbours to the north' to check out the stability of the product. :eek:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] animatechnica:
Dude you chose yahoo search who can't even verify their ceo's credentials. Try this http://www.appleinsider.com/article...le_to_claim_smartphone_market_share_lead.html and I got more credible sources where that came from
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
You mean Apple makes a tablet? Shoot, if I'd have known I would have gotten that instead of the G-Tab. :rolleyes:

Seriously, those of you that went Android vs. iOS and are unhappy sell your G-Tab and buy an iPad. If you like Android and don't like Samsung sell your G-Tab and get another brand. All this harping isn't going to get Samsung to release the ICS update any faster.

If I were them and launching a new product (the 2's) with ICS as a distinguishing feature I'd wait to update my legacy devices too. They said Q1 for ICS but that's when the 2's were supposed to be released earlier. Now that they're shipping I'd expect the update in a couple of weeks.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Panos_dm:
Guys this isn't an arms race...Apple may be richer...or Samsung...or LG...or.....perhaps me lol. The point is which is better. Imo android eats apples for breakfast. But someone may have another opinion.....it has nothing to do with the thread. We all wait for the update for different reasons. Some want the support. Others working cameras. And some people tend to like the number 4 for some reason I can't even think of.... Please let's be reasonable. There is no reason to fight and pollute a what could have been a worthy thread. I am sure that ics will come after all the announcements.... Then we will all be happy! Until then there are other topics, or even other forums, for someone to rant.

I hope I didn't offend anyone. That wasn't my intention. Be well everyone!!!

Peace...;)

Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] L33t Masta:
Hey I get where you're coming from man. To be honest its not much of an argument wgphen other people don't know what they're talking about lol :p

But anyway I don't mind the unofficial from I have right now. I just wish Samsung was more open about everything. But regardless, I think this thread has run its course too.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SgtMacabre:
update shmupdate

Yes the update is taking a very long time. Think about it. You are Samsung. You have hundreds of different devices to update. Just like roms that only work on specific devices. You can't even use a 3g tab rom on a wifi tab.

I agree Samsung doesn't say much if anything at all. I also agree it is taking too long. I also feelthat their mist expensive devices (galaxy tab and recently released high end phones pre ICS). Should be the first to update.

But everyone just chill. As soon as the ICS update come out there will be the next thing everyone will be complaining about. Like maybe the next ICS ota......

A man with an ounce of patience possess a ton of wisdom.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sasquatch080:
And on and on we go "whining " Anybody have any real ics update news?

(For the apple boys)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sighx:
Everyone's getting quite upset over not having ICS for our beloved 10.1 tab. That's funny.. I still do everything I want to do without ICS.. What different things would you really be doing when ICS is out? Quite honestly.. I believe the exact same thing. Then again, that's just me and I'm only 1 of many billions... :) ICS or not .. Its still a great tab!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DannyBiker:
Honestly, yes, you do the same things but only faster, smoother...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] elegos:
Let me see...

1. Optimized speed (and the tablet DOES need it)

2. Folders

3. Native screenshot

4. Apps from lockscreen

5. Better voice integration and continuous, real-time speech to text dictation

6. Automatic syncing of browser with users' Chrome bookmarks

7. Data Usage section in settings

8. Improved camera app with zero shutter lag, time lapse settings, panorama mode, and the ability to zoom while recording

9. Support for the WebP image format

10. Hardware acceleration of the UI

^-- list of things I've been liking to see on my tablet since November 2011.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] danielsf:
Honeycomb had Hardware acceleration of the UI

Also zero shutter lag is mostly hardware dependent, meaning it isn't much to do with the app, more to do with our camera and the HALS for the camera.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sighx:
So, I'm going to safely assume you're doing to die within the next month if you don't get these features? Rofl.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] radqooo:
Why it is true that honeycomb is OK, its the principle of the thing.

Why should I wait a year for an update? I could have bought an iPad for the same money, but I wanted android, because i like that I can try out my own apps an stuff. Also I though that being a flagship tablet, it will get flagship support as in updates to the latest version of android.

Because of this, I really doubt that my next device will be a Samsung/HTC or whatever android.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sonic Offline:
*woosh*
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Raptor2099:
Actually I WILL die in 3 weeks if ICS does not come out within that time. So long cruel technology world...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] twigster:
Okay. put aside the melodramatics of this thread.

The 4.0.3 update for the sgs2 was pushed today. So hopefully the tablet rom will not be long. Interested to see what it actually brings.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] adamski123:
ermm mate.... the s2 ics update has been out for ages... :L
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] twigster:
I'm talking about the Canadian version of the update. After all this thread is regarding ICS updates from Canada isn't it?

Edit: okay I see that the other thread is specifically regarding the Canada ics updates. posted in the wrong one.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] adamski123:
oh lol ok. :)

i thought it was just a general ics update thread?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jutley:
Erm hold on there is already a canadian ic4.0 update thread this one is for the rest of us waiting I thing we have gotten into abit of a tangle here I thought this. Was general icescream update thread?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] twigster:
You're right, this is the general thread. I've done it again. got a bit of a habit of confusing things lately. Now back to the melodramatics that the thread was busy with before I arrived.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ali magdy:
The ICS update started for Galaxy note. Not yet GTab :S
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DannyBiker:
I just love how the internet completely turned people into impatient kids with no sense of time what so ever.

I'm translating this for you :

"for ages" means "a month". A month !!! I'm there were dinosaurs back then.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ali magdy:
Take it easy :-/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RavenY2K3:
I'm just installing that one (backing up apps now) But I read somewhere that the Note was getting it before the Tab 10.1 so I think we should see it pretty soon now.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TheDudemeister:
I don't think so. They will wait until the new tabs have made some money. The Note gets its update, because it's one of a kind and still selling good/doesn't get a successor.

I hope we don't have to wait as long as SGS owners...:mad:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] t1mman:
Yeah! Just like they waited for the Galaxy S III to sell before they updated the SII to ICS....

Wait... no they didn't :|
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] no1bossman:
I know what you mean. I'm only a new tab owner. But have been using Android for awhile.

I can't believe how impatient some people here have been. Stating things as ridiculous as "I'm going to sell my unit". Some people here just really need to relax & just enjoy their tab.

Anyway that's my two cents for the day :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Just_Another_N00b:
Well, still, I am still waiting for a Gingerbread update on my Archos... Not happening. But the SGT 10.1 would get something, just the 'soon' is not really soon enough.

Luckily us Canucks seem to have the dubious role of testing out the ICS, if/when it ever comes. I hope we get some good and complete (camera is my req) alternate ICS ROMS

before

the dust settles on the official ICS release.

I would not like to be a guinea-pig for Samsung, rather be one for xda developers...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] iGoogleNexus:
Guys seems like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be updated to ICS this month. Click the link and scroll to where the comments are posted. Perhaps this is it ^_^ mind the Galaxy Tab 2... just scroll to the first comment posted where the customer is talking to a tech

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...aunches-in-the-united-states-starting-may-13/

- Google
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GorillaPimp:
I just love how the internet turns people into condescending douchebags who think their desires, reasoning and experiences must be the same as everyone else.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] iGoogleNexus:
This whole world is nothing but a debate... get used to it. .. ppl as how u describe are all around us.. I can even be a douchebag at any given moment (;

- Google
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GorillaPimp:
I don't have a problem with debates. We all have our douchebag moments. Does that mean we only want to interact with one another as douchebags?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] corei7qm:
From Droidlife Blog:

Thanks to iGoogleNexus for the Link!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] iGoogleNexus:
=] no because moments like that are only saved for the bigger douchebags of the world. This place is nothing but knowledge and I've gained a good amount of it from ppl who actually think there is no such thing as a stupid question. Its from them that you become confident and take in knowledge to help others who were just like u when lost. Those who are jerks on here because of a question I asked I ignore or I can respond in my own way =P.

- Google
[General Topics] Arar31:
aftr producng phone.userz dnt fynd it useful bcoz of its OS and its mre expnsve.expnsvenes turns to doubts.many people said that android phones are mre afordable.but incredble in performance compared to uselez nokia phones
[General Topics] jerdog:
drivel.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fr33pr0d:
A while back I've updated the phone to Android 2.3.3. Everything worked great, no problems whatsoever but a few months later, when I tried to start the camera, everything went wrong (see video at the bottom of this post). It's been like that for maybe 3 weeks and then it went back to normal.. it worked fine for 2-3 days then it went crazy again.. after about 1 week, it worked fine again. Now it's not working as it should (I don't see the video, just static/random colors). I've tried SE Update Service but it didn't fix the issue. I've been searching the internet for about 2 weeks now and I wasn't able to find anyone who is experiencing the same problem. I have a few apps installed but none of them control the camera.

Recently I installed FeraLab and the problem is still there. I bought a camera (spare part) but I don't really want to start taking the phone apart if there is another (easier) fix.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Youtube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bn5vvjm538
[HTC Sensation] kwjimmy:
all my games (gameloft) lags on sense 4 roms , is this an unknown issue? :eek: just wondering
[HTC Sensation] JustinRawr:
Pretty sure it's an known bug.
[HTC Sensation] razoror:
which kernel do you use? maybe you should change the governor of the kernel