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[Epic 4G General] BloatedDuck404:
I hate it but I can wait. I'm actually really not ready for a data cap right now plus the one x + not out yet. By June there will probably be better phones My mother has an iPhone and she tells me she has to turn Data off so she won't go over 2GB

But at&t has impressive coverage as I get jealous whenever she or someone else calls me while riding the Broad Street subway. :banghead:

Sent from your phone.....turn around.....

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And the day I would probably regret the switch.

Sent from your phone.....turn around.....
[Epic 4G General] ashamir:
Anyone have any idea when the One X + might be coming out? I am very interested and am due for an upgrade soon. If I were to choose today I'd go with GS3, but I might just wait.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
If you want unlimited, go for T-Mo. They have plans w/o throttling now.
[Epic 4G General] faceless:
Note 2. Keep SERO!
[Epic 4G General] Killasmoke:
Yea boy the Note 2 will be out on Sprint in 9 days on October 25 for 300$ with 2 year contract in 2 colors titanium grey & marble white now to see what the new nexus is all about my updates in December:D
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Just fyi, the Note 2 lacks SVDO. It is a world phone though. Anyone know if the SIM is embedded too?
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
AFAIK, all Sprint LTE SIMs will be embedded.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Didn't ask about lte. I mentioned it being a world phone and if the sim would be embedded, sprints new customer screwing trend (ala Photon Q and the quad core LG).
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
Man I hope a new nexus come to Sprint......Soon!!!
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
icanhaz new nexus + removable storage + removable battery with top notch screen & power for the next 2 years
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Ah my bad, didn't read that correctly. I would assume they would use the same SIM slot for LTE and GSM since the technologies are somewhat compatible. Verizon LTE devices not advertised as world phones could use GSM with a bit of hacking and using a GSM SIM card. It didn't seem to say on the FCC data sheet, so I would assume not.
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
Did anyone else see the new VZW spying claim?

http://m.cnet.com/news/verizon-draws-fire-for-monitoring-app-usage-browsing-habits/57533001
[Epic 4G General] Wishkah420:
I'll probably be jumping to the Note 2 as well, just not sure if I wanna stick with Sprint or goto Verizon...

- Sent from a 2 year old EOL phone running Jelly Bean with a keyboard! -
[Epic 4G General] :
Xbox, since you're a HTC fanboy, I want to know did you see the HTC "Butterfly," its been announced in Japan and I'm digging the colors.

Hmmm. I might get that phone instead of the GNote2.
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
Would it be a dumb move to upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus? I want a Nexus phone and I'm sure when and if the new Nexus come to Sprint its going to cost mid 200's or higher. The Nexus you can get now as low as $49. What do you guys think?
[Epic 4G General] :
I was thinking about upgrading to the Gnex recently, honestly its a great phone, but its not worth it when the upcoming Nexus phone or phones are coming.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Yup saw on engadget. Looks pretty sweet. In the past, sprint and kddi have had some common phones due to the fact that both are cdma+wimax. Especially htc has done all their evos there, but usually sprint is first. I wouldnt say I am an HTC fanboy though. I'm really not brand loyal and I did choose the Epic over HTC devices, but after feeling the S3s quality vs the evolte's, I do feel that Samsung's build quality is a bit lacking. If they can reach HTC's standard in that field (and introduce a less cartoony UI), I would buy from them, but especially S3 vs EvoLTE where the specs are the same essentially (minus RAM, which Samsung implemented poorly anyway).
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
Yeah I understand....I will definitely wait untill after the announcement of the new Nexus to see what I am going to do....I'm sure there is going to be Black Friday sales too:) Great time of the year to be upgrade eligible.
[Epic 4G General] mooshubob:
I'm waiting until the Nexuses come out. I've had my upgrade since...July? No really viable candidates so far, and CM10 on the Epic was (and is) keeping me happy. The HTC 5" beast looks amazing, but I'm not certain I want a 5" device. Just seems...unwieldy IMO.

Is there any news at all whether Sprint will get any of the new Nexus devices (if there are multiple)? I know they're getting the Optimus G, so does that mean sprint won't be getting the LG Nexus 4?

EDIT: I just realized, with SoftBank owning a majority share in Sprint now, it seems likely Sprint will be getting some version of that 5" J Butterfly unveiled today at some point!
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Nah dude Softbank doesn't own KDDI. They're competitors and KDDI is the one with the Butterfly. KDDI is CDMA, but Softbank is GSM.
[Epic 4G General] mooshubob:
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Not totally familiar with Japanese telecoms...
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
No SVDO on the Note 2? That really sucks--no phone should be without it and it's one more reason I can't be interested in the iPhone 5. Especially since there's not gonna be any LTE around here for another 6 months or more. I gotta stick with the Epic and hope it doesn't crap out on me or get destroyed/lost etc.
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
Ok, so who got their mitts on the Note 2 and what do you think? (And yes, I already watched QB's videos)
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
::raises hand:: its an amazing phone. Dont regret my decision one bit
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
I played with one for a bit... definitely not my next device... just doesn't fit me...
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I have a Note 2 on my doorstep waiting for me. I've migrated to the gs3 out of necessity. For some reason the gs3 roams much better than the Epic, and with a little better radio I've cut down on the battery swapping. Roam Control has helped as well where the phone refuses to roam. There seems to be just enough signal where it keeps trying to stay locked on, and I wish it'd give up and roam. Has made working at two of my hospitals much more liveable even if I truly can't stand typing on screen. And SwiftKey can be just as annoying as it can be helpful.

Since I'm already giving into the idea I'll be living with a slate for another year, in for a penny, in for a pound. At least with the Note I'll have the digitizer benefits for getting signatures on order sheets to forgo printing them. If i can't take the size ill just go back to the gs3. Got it by chance, free and contract clear so no big deal there hopping on the Note 2.

What annoys me though is the lack of SVDO and again the embedded gsm sim. I Sprint deals with a lot of world phone fraud, but this kind of reaction to it is a bit extreme, if that is the real reason for locking down the world phones.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
It's smooth, fast, fits well in the hand, and definitely perfect for use with the s-pen. The s-pen is responsive and writes well. The pop up browser was pretty slick. Great for quick responses in email links and such. The screen definitely pops, and I haven't seen any pixels as of yet. I restored over 6500 text messages in less than 15 minutes. Took almost two hours on the Epic and over a half hour on the S3.

I'd go into more, but now I'm actually annoyed. I have quite a few imperfections on the inner part of the metal rim around the phone like someone tried to wedge an exacto knife in little couple millimeter long spots. The phone in general is very smooth and the screen almost looks like liquid rising above the metal rim so the imperfections stick out. I didn't pay attention to them at first as I just wanted to get up and running.

Outside of that, it's impressive to hold and use. I got used to the S3 rather quick to the point it doesn't really feel that big in the hand. Not sure if that'll be possible with the Note 2. We'll see.
[Epic 4G General] samdsox:
I actually found the opposite...it wasn't necessarily hard to hold in the hand, but i found it uncomfortable to hold for longer periods of time. Screen is great but almost intimidating for a phone. I definitely think its more tablet than it is phone. I definitely should have tested it before i bought it because i am 90 percent sure I am going to return it this week. I wish the made the galaxy note 2 as a 5 inch like the htc butterfly because other than it being just barely too big, i loved it. I actually might buy a g note 10.1 because of it (or maybe nexus 10 if that ever gets released).

Definitely wish i had done that b4 dropping 300 bucks. Hopefully i can get all my money back now.

Now i have to decide between the lg nexus 4 or waiting for a new exynos 5250 phone.
[Epic 4G General] mooshubob:
Damn it. LG Nexus 4 was released today (shipping Nov. 13th), but only GSM.....Google isn't making any carrier partnerships this time around, so no LTE, no CDMA Nexus 4.

What should I do? Is there any chance of a new flagship coming to Sprint in the November - January timeframe? I was leaning toward the Optimus G, before I learned it's a completely locked down bootloader, which is total bull.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
It'll be unlocked eventually most likely. That's what I'd get if its between that and the nexus.

Optimus has 32 GBs, LTE, a nicer design (in my opinion) and will likely benefit from most of the same aospness (say that out loud) as the Nexus 4 due to the huge similarities.

I don't think anything will come out on Sprint between now and January, but I could be wrong. I would love if the HTC J Butterfly/Droid DNA/Dlx comes out on Sprint. Assuming nothing good comes out, I will get the Optimus G most likely.

Most of Sprint's releases tend to be May-September so a new release may be unlikely, although this year, they seem to be trying a new strategy with the Note II and Optimus released after that window, so anything is possible.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
The nexus 4 is subsidized on T-Mobile. Since someone stated it wasn't going to be on any carriers. HSPA+ support which is what 42mbps max. LTE won't matter for some.
[Epic 4G General] acegolfer:
I was between note2 and nexus4. The off contract $300 nexus4 price tag sold me.

2 years with epic was a great ride. You guys rock.
[Epic 4G General] Killasmoke:
Its 300$ for the 8gb model & 350$ for 16gb nexus 4 so I would pay 50$ more for more storage;)
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
Aww man....I don't want to go to no damn T-Mobile....But I want the Nexus 4!!!!!!!!!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
No LTE, No SD Card, has a glass back and the specs are in line with other phones out there. All it has going for it is that it is a nexus, and has a newer Jellybean build on it.

I'd get the S3 or Note 2 if I were getting a phone now.

Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Amen...except I'm still holding out while my Epic can still beast mode!
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
I don't know what to do. I was hoping that Google would release the Nexus 4 on Sprint with LTE but it looks like they won't do any carrier partnership. Maybe they might release it by sometime early next year like they did with the previous Nexus phones but I am afraid to take that chance. I would just go out and buy a Galaxy Nexus but I would be so piss if they did release the Nexus 4 sometime next year...
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
I still am hoping that the rumor that multiple Nexus devices from different companies will be released (and soon), but who knows.
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
If you think about it, the multiple Nexus devices are already out. Phone by LG, 7in tablet byt Asus, and 10in Tablet by Samsung.
[Epic 4G General] jasonsf:
I think I'm going to pick up a used Sprint GNex and hold on to my upgrade for a while. I don't think I can stay with my Epic much longer and I don't want the Note 2 (too big) or the GS3 (Don't want to use my upgrade on the dual core). So, I'll see if I can get a good deal on the Gnex and hold out for the next big thing.
[Epic 4G General] terinfire:
I've had the Epic for a long while -- and I finally decided to "upgrade" to a Captivate Glide. Got mine for $199 off of NewEgg for brand new -- but I had to buy an unlock code (for like $9 -- it is a Rogers' branded phone). Dual-core, better camera -- looks like the only thing missing is a notification LED. It has some new developers interested in it -- so it's nice to use it and get more stuff on it. The only downside, is that I was really hoping for a nicer screen.

The other perk is that you can use it on StraightTalk, so I can cut down my costs. At this point, that's mostly what I'm interested in. T-Mobile and AT&T are reasonable in my area, so I don't mind going to it.

It's a pretty snazzy phone. It'll be a good transition phone while I wait for a true Nexus QWERTY phone.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Sounds like we won't be getting a nexus with removable storage any time soon. That cuts down on half off what I was hoping for X(
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
I'm going for the Galaxy Nexus sometime this week. If the Nexus 4 does come out for Sprint one day, then I'll just give my GNexus to my dad and ask if I can use his contract since he doesn't care about having a latest and greatest phone (already gonna give my Epic 4g to him and all he cares about is Google maps lol). I will miss this community. :(
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
You forgot to mention the gimped keyboard with no number row. I forgot the Glide was dual core. Think I'm going to keep watch for a cheap one on craigslist so I can use it for overseas and then sell my Photon. Though I wonder what I'd find more important when traveling, the larger screen or the qwerty.
[Epic 4G General] terinfire:
Keyboard isn't too bad. I've been playing on it and like it, to be honest. Yeah, it sucks to lose the number row, but I have fat fingers, so the buttons are a little larger and better for me... To each their own!
[Epic 4G General] lost_:
Captivate Glide is my GSM phone when I go overseas. It doesn't have any LED, but that's not a big deal. The keyboard is a 5 if the Epic's is a 9. Camera is slighly better. It takes the same battery as the E4G. It's worthy phone overall,

The back cover breaks easily - it has a different way to snap on. And it's pretty easy to service; opening it up and replacing the screen is a quick job. There are more ROMS for it now then before, but it still doesn't get as much love as E4G, perhaps because AT&T has more mid to high-end offerings. It can get T-Mo HSPA+ in 1900Mhz refarmed areas.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Just played with a Note II today...I think I may be stricken.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Here's something to entice you...
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
the wife is looking at the note2 i am still undecided but really leaning on the gs3 got 28 days to think it over
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
After reading this:

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/02/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review/

I'm going to go play with one tomorrow, and may be frequenting a different set of forums in 24 hrs X^O
[Epic 4G General] epicnoob66:
See you there

Sent from my t0ltespr
[Epic 4G General] tbob18:
Looks like it is about time to upgrade.:good:

It is really too bad that there aren't any high end keyboard phones anymore, but I guess with these massive screens a hardware keyboard is not needed as much.

The Optimus G looks great, but the lack of a SD slot and removable battery is a deal breaker especially since battery life is not stellar.

The Galaxy Note 2 is pretty much perfect other than the massive screen, I'll have to try it out because the specs and features are pretty much spot on if I can somehow tolerate the size. :p
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Trying using any slate in landscape and see your usable screen real estate go to zero because the whole screen is keyboard and text box. I still want a premium slider. Don't care how much I like the Note 2. Massive screens are a poor excuse to not make a premium slider. I'd go back to a 4.3" HD slider with an S4, 2gb of ram, and removable 2100+ mah battery.
[Epic 4G General] jeffreyjicha:
T-mo has an updated version of the Epic. It's physically similar to the Epic, but the hardware is updated it's called the Samsung Galaxy Relay 4G
[Epic 4G General] tbob18:
Do you mean where it shows one line above the keyboard (example)?

There are ways to get around that, on my Epic I have the dpi set to 160 and the software keyboard only takes up about 1/2 of the screen (my phone).

But I agree, I'd much rather have a slider phone with a 4-4.5" screen, high end specs, SD slot, and removable battery.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Your picture doesn't show a text box. When you type on the slider, you still see everything surrounding the open text box. On the slate, the text box takes over the rest of the screen regardless of your dpi and keyboard height (to my knowledge). I've never changed the dpi.
[Epic 4G General] tbob18:
If Android detects the device as a tablet, it will show the surrounding area, like in my screenshot. Roms like Paranoid Android let you select this on an app-to-app basis. Another alternative is to use a third party keyboard that gives you an option to control how the landscape keyboard works (like Thumb Keyboard).
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I had this long winded thing about typing, but it's not worth it. No matter how you shrink this or that, on a 4-5" screen you simply don't have enough real estate left over for any meaningful reference and viewing info when you're already displaying a text box and keyboard. Your 2nd screenshot was proof of that. Add a text box to it and how much screen do you really have left? Even if it's just a keyboard, I don't want to lose 30, 20 or even 10% of the screen. I have an HD screen, I'd like to keep it that way. Everything is a workaround, from what you mention to all the onscreen keyboards trying to improve error correction. Don't think many of us needed all that correction once we were comfy with our hard keyboard. Heck, I could have full blown conversations and type out emails and texts without looking at the screen or keyboard.

Bottom line is, if someone had made a true premium slider spec'd similar to the S3 or One X that was reasonably thin (2-3mm thinner than the Epic), you'd have a fraction of the people on here moving to slates.

(and this is the short winded version. The long winded was much worse)
[Epic 4G General] tbob18:
I agree, I almost exclusively use my hardware keyboard.

Although, I'm not sure what you mean by text box... The screenshot I posted was taken while I was typing into the search field on the page, granted I never use the landscape software keyboard and only use the hardware keyboard.
[Epic 4G General] faceless:
even if it was the same thickness as the epic, i'd get it. but after seeing all the mid-range stuff, i'm out next month. as soon as i'm upgrade eligible, note 2.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
i had mentioned that in a different thread already haha

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33606140&postcount=13
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Go into your email app and hit reply to an email while in portrait mode. Note what you see. Then rotate to landscape and tell me what you see. To save time, you go to just the keyboard and a giant white text box. Ill never use a slate in landscape for anything but media viewing because of this.

And the better battery life and improved radios were enough for me to upgrade and ditch the hard keyboard. The productivity and convenience loss was offset by less battery switching and better reception which is also essential for work. The sad part is, they (the industry, forum goers and such) will claim sliders don't sell well and point to the sales of the current models. and it's like, no ****. Show me one that compares to any of the premium slates out there. Only the Q comes close, but it misses the mark with a fixed anemic battery and qHD screen. The embedded sim is also annoying but not a dealbreaker. Some people are just spec whores and gravitate to the specs. Epic owners were spoiled by having a true premium slate in slider form. It's tough taking a step backwards when your phone style of choice gets demoted to mid tier.
[Epic 4G General] tbob18:
I see what you are saying now, it does happen in my email app (Enhanced Email). You may be able to get around this with a rom like Paranoid Android.
[Epic 4G General] jeffreyjicha:
I know that's where I got the info from xD
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Haha gotcha yeah I just wish the KB was nicer is all as our Epic.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Hehe, so I almost walked out of Best Buy with a Note II on Tuesday. The workers were clueless, had me all set up, went to check out the phone, wasn't in their system, were about to override it (? can they do that?), until the manager came over and told them to stop being knuckleheads, b/c Samsung gave them a hard street date of 11/11.

The only good thing that came out of it was I now have my name on 1 of 2 Notes in stock, and they gave me a $30 GC for my troubles. X^)
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Note II came out 10/25/12... the Optimus comes out the 11th
[Epic 4G General] Techronico:
Looks like the Sprint Note 2 is the phone Im gonna get.
[Epic 4G General] jeffreyjicha:
My dad's friend got it. It's pretty sweet
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Ironically the best selling contract Samsung phone in the US was the Epic 4g. While Keyboard phones tend to sell less then none keyboard phones. There is also less competition. If someone were to release a top end keyboard phone, they would probably sell more then they do a none keyboard phone due to virtually no competition.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
The Epic was probably the last of the 1st gen Galaxy S phones to get EOL'd. It held a decent price point for a long time. And yes, once carrier has about 1 slider to about 4 or so slates. The Photon Q is already going for free with a new line at the moment. Never saw the Epic get that treatment. Some say people pay n o attention to specs, but the specs riding on these new premium slates are just damn attractive to people and makes something along the lines of the Q seem antiquated. All these big HD screens and the Q is just qHD. Nice big replaceable batteries in the S3 and Note 2, and anemic embedded battery in the Q. If the Q had an HD screen and a 2100-2500mAh removable battery I would've easily kept it and not really given the Note 2 much thought.

It just seems like such a simple equation to make a premium slider. As mentioned, it's just one phone. Just do it right. If Sammy did a worldwide S3 slider (and not give it the Mini treatment), it'd sell, big. Heck, considering people are fine with the Note 2's size, you could do a 4.5" HD slider a little thinner than the Epic and people like us would probably flock to it.