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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] suprajargon:
actually it turns out it was my router. I guess for some reason it plays nice with most tablets, but the prime seems to have some problems with getting multicast packets from it. I tried a couple different routers, and found one that works with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zolah:
Does any one else think that Google should be spending a lot more time here on xda and learning from the devs?

Just little features like being able to hide and unhide the nav bar, and edit the buttons of the nav bar...

Getting the smoothness of the stock launcher sorted once and for all that some custom rooms have managed...

The few extra targets on the lock screen.

You get the idea. Just little tweaks that are missing from stock that I feel should have been added from the start.

A company that large with that much resource should surely b thinking of these things before Joe bloggs comes along and adds it for them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonnyg1097:
If I recall correctly some of the new features in ICS from the Cynogenmod team (the only one that I can recall is the swipe away notification menu list).

But yea I agree, those little tweaks that you mentioned would be sweet to have in future releases of android...and who knows maybe they are paying attention and in the next (major) update of theirs we might get new features.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
Yes/No.

I'm sure some Google employees

might

check sites like this from time to time, but more often than not they're aware of bugs before most of the XDA population notices them. Legitimate issues will be reported to their bug tracker quickly I'm sure.

People may get impatient waiting for a fix, thinking, the Big G is oblivious, but the majority of the time they're a few steps ahead of most users here and a fix has been in the pipe for a while. I'm sure it's someone's, or someTHING's job, to harvest pertinent info; Google is in the information biz after all. I doubt any Google (or AOSP) presence would ever be officially declared here; I can't picture that going well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
There is a gerrit for code submissions. If they are not submitted, good luck in seeing them considered for implementation.

However, devs like us tend to introduce problems as well. Unless it can fit into the master branch for all supported AOSP devices and appears to not cause issues with other items, it will be immediately thrown out.

Ever read rom threads? At least half the posts stem from problems that were created from tampering with code/adding features.

..and I don't want to hear "insert rom" is bugless, because it is not true for any rom.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Good point for sure. I definitely do not want my phone to ship with the instability custom ROM lol.

And people won't be satisfied either way. They're gonna ROM their phone anyways, not all of these things need to be included in the shipping software.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
Um...Google knows man. Come on, they are the largest search engine in the world. They know what CM team has added, they know what people dislike about their products, they know EVERYTHING.

I'm sure they are learning from the devs, also have to realize a lot of the things CM adds and the fact Google doesn't include a lot of the stuff is good for the mass, a lot of my friends have a Android phones.

I always root their phones and add toggles and the extra features and they don't even realize or use them because they don't care, but I'm sure they know what people do want and what people don't based on their search histories.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ALIHISGREAT:
I thought about this the other day...

If any of these ROMs and Kernels were actually significantly better without compromising stability then the Google devs would be out of a job pretty quickly.

I think the main advantages of custom ROMs and kernels are:

- customization above and beyond standard - but Google wants too keep a uniform ICS theme.. and adding too much detracts from this... not to mention over complicating menus and settings

- performance from overclocking - again something Google doesn't want to do for stability and hardware reasons

- getting new releases and sources before OTA updates - for the phones that are Samsung controlled which have to wait ages for them.. and you can flash a stock image for this anyway.

So custom ROMs don't really add that much that Google would want in its stock builds
[Member-Found Deals] motoxxxx:
FYI

Just order one
[Member-Found Deals] bikrame:
Play store sales phones too :confused:
[Member-Found Deals] icepally:
Yeah killer deal.
[Member-Found Deals] hiz99:
Link?
[Member-Found Deals] zander21510:
It's true...here's the link:

https://play.google.com/store/devic...WRfbXVsdGlfX18xX3Byb21vXzEzMzUyODg0NzM3NDkiXQ..

Seems pretty dang cheap for an unlocked phone at the calibur of the GNexus. Wonder if it's a limited time deal?
[Member-Found Deals] funeralthirst:
told my wife about this and her response was 'buy it. i'll take your phone.' which is funny cause she went from a cm7 flashed android phone to a dumbphone and repeatedly turned down offers of my old vibrant or her own sgs2 saying she likes her phone and doesn't need a smartphone...
[Member-Found Deals] zander21510:
I hate to give away ideas...but you know list our t989s on craigslist unlocked and rooted for $400...its like an almost equal trade-in.
[Member-Found Deals] CBlakey292:
One of the main deal makers for this, is for those on contract who can get more money by terminating their contract for a cheaper plan and newer phone...
[Member-Found Deals] bbobarino:
What's the catch why so cheap??
[Member-Found Deals] diamantericos:
at first I was like OK good deal and I like the larger screen size. But then i said no point we have a faster processor. So its like downgrading. I think ill wait for quad core .
[Member-Found Deals] grawkiller73:
Galaxy s3 in a couple of weeks, trying to sell aa many as possible before it launches lol
[Member-Found Deals] JaZart:
That and the fact that the phone is 5 months old, plus I feel GOOGLE od about to release something in a few months.
[Member-Found Deals] relldroid:
When did google start selling phones on market? But I prefer my 8MP camera over the 5 on gnex, processor speed isn't the deal breaker i'm sure it can handle all the apps we have well enough.. I'll wait for s3 tho just bcuz of the camera

Apples iPhone, There's a patent for that. Solving lifes dilemmas one lawsuit at a time.
[Member-Found Deals] G1_enthusiast:
we have higher clock number but not faster

that thing is fluid fast! no 4g which is a killer deal for me
[Member-Found Deals] jdiddy_ub:
if you put a tmobile sim in its only 3g right?

im surprised that so many people would trade 4g for 3g speeds pretty much just to get ICS

although coming from a g1 to the vibrant to the t989 having a 3 color LED would be awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

its been like 2 years since ive seen an LED light on a phone ive owned...man i miss the LED lights
[Member-Found Deals] G1_enthusiast:
no not even...edge
[Member-Found Deals] jdiddy_ub:
really? i dont know anything about bands or whatever

it says

"High speed data access requires a compatible 3G/4G HSPA+ cellular data service provider such as AT&T and T-Mobile."
[Member-Found Deals] Christ1119:
You'd still get "4G" (since T-Mo classifies anything at 14mbps+ 4G) at 21mbps, half of what you can get from the t989 if it really matters that much.
[Member-Found Deals] hiz99:
Link doesn't work with me. It just sends me to the normal play store
[Member-Found Deals] G1_enthusiast:
the international version have edge i think this is the same...3G and 4G for ATT because they use international band

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ehh u sure about that? international version only get edge
[Member-Found Deals] daihung1:
Hi all...I haven't compare much with the price. Is this the cheapest price for this phone so far? I have a T989 but thinking of getting my wife a new Android phone for Mother's day. She currently has an unlocked iphone 3gs with T-Mobile. I came from an iphone too and I just love Android. I want to get her an Android instead of another unlock iphone. The only concerns I have is that this phone does not have expendable memories like the t989 does. With HD videos and pics the disk space can be filled up very quickly.

How is the community for the galaxy nexus? Are there some good custom roms for this phone? Thanks so much.
[Member-Found Deals] iLeopard:
The iPhone 3GS has no expandable memory either so if she's doing fine with the iPhone, she'll do just fine with the GN. If she ever need to recover some memory though, all she has to do is transfer some of the content to a computer. It can be a bit of a hassle but it does the job.
[Member-Found Deals] relldroid:
I'm selling for $350 guys plz let me know I won't regret the switch I have cold feet

Edit: Bought mine... Gonna miss all the ics speculation in this forums :(

Apples iPhone, There's a patent for that. Solving lifes dilemmas one lawsuit at a time.
[Member-Found Deals] rosemachinegun:
Damn Expansys is slow. :/ Ordered Wednesday and it's stuck on "Awaiting Stock". At this rate my GS2 will devalue with the GS3 announcement and I'll have no savings from ordering through Expansys rather than Google.:rolleyes:
[Member-Found Deals] Jjday7:
I'd cancel and go with Google. Why would you give up a year warranty?
[Member-Found Deals] Krooked22:
Isn't there a one year manufacturer warranty regardless of where u buy it????? Please elaborate, I may cancel my order with expansys and just get it from the market. Is the market warranty neuter?
[Member-Found Deals] Jjday7:
well buying your phone from a middle man your taking the chance on having to go through expansys when there is a problem. They sell the international version which is not supported by Samsung in the U.S. This is info that I have been reading in the forum. I only bought my phone because of the warranty support. Nothing is worst then having a bad phone and then getting the run around from a third party.

I can tell you personally I wouldn't have bought the phone without the warranty support. Pretty important.

Correct me if I'm wrong guys.
[Member-Found Deals] eraw890:
Omg u took the words out my mouth.

u literally took the words out my mouth. (chris trager voice)
[Member-Found Deals] Lakeshow423:
This phone with ICS works circles around the Galaxy Nexus. check the market, I've been through 2 GN's but I keep coming back to this phone. 16GB is a killer especially if you got. 32GB with all your stuff on it. The $399 deal, you better watch out...It might not be the pentaband one that allows you to get 3G/4G on T-Mobile.
[Member-Found Deals] scuzzbag87:
Huh? Aren't all GSM nexuses pentaband? Which one are u talking about. Unless ur getting confused with the cdma ones which Google doesn't sell
[Member-Found Deals] Lakeshow423:
Nope. Do your research.
[Member-Found Deals] :
All the ones sold by google on the play store are pentaband it even says so if you read it. Why would you buy it anywhere else when you get a warranty with google for the one sold on the playstore.
[Member-Found Deals] bykr_dude15:
delete
[Member-Found Deals] scuzzbag87:
Yea dude ur way off u should do YOUR research all the ones sold by Google are pentaband it even says so on the description if u even read it
[Member-Found Deals] scuzzbag87:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2462844

There's 5 bands under 3g network

850 900 1900 1700 21000
[Member-Found Deals] a12m4nd0:
I ordered my GNex on Friday morning and I'm hoping it gets here on Monday. I was able to sell my T989 for 425 with the cases, so I practically got an even trade.

I almost felt bad leaving because while ICS progression was slow, I appreciated what the developers were doing and attempting to do. Roms like Digital Warfare are excellent and apparently ICS is coming soon, but I refuse to deal with delayed updates anymore. I think Google is making a good statement by offering their phone unlocked: we shouldn't be forced to wait for carriers and manufacturers to get their stuff together. I'll stick to the Nexus brand and timely updates from here on. Hopefully Google sells the next Nexus unlocked as well.
[Member-Found Deals] TJBunch1228:
Got mine last Thursday. Shipping was fast. Phone is sexy as hell and works flawlessly. I do notice a difference in data speeds, my GSII gives a couple more mbps. ICS runs more smoothly on the Nexus though and it looks a little cleaner with the qHD display, but that's splitting hairs, really. The biggest thing to me is how ****ing beautiful the Nexus is from the front. No carrier or manufacturer logos, no capacitive buttons, just all black. When the screen is off it just looks so clean.

Bottom line, the phone is badass and an obvious deal for anyone wanting a sexy, no-bloat, fast-update Android experience at a no bull**** price point.
[Member-Found Deals] rosemachinegun:
Yeah, I think I will. I had no idea about the warranty issue, and at this point I want to have the phone and sell my GS2 ASAP.

Thanks for the heads up.
[Member-Found Deals] witeboy07:
So my question is,will this be a good deal to trade my white gs2 week old..lol..I'm getting an offer of a titanium gnex for trade...thoughts?
[Member-Found Deals] tigerz0202:
Theres a reason they want to trade, White Gs2 looks great and its about to officially get ICS in a couple weeks. Theres a reason why Nexus is so cheap right now and Google always Launches a new phone when it upgrades OS so people who are buying these Nexus phones now especially on tmobile get half the data speeds and by the time your nexus gets updated officially there will be a better Nexus available so id just wait IMO, Really no need for me to go backwards hardware wise even if the support isnt that great for the S2
[Member-Found Deals] witeboy07:
Oh man..I'm getting cold feet now...
[Member-Found Deals] relldroid:
It really falls into preference. This is xda we all understand the specs of each phone, I made the switch not just bcuz of ics but bcuz

A.) Its different B.) Its a nexus C.) Devs support D.) Led lights E.) Google Wallet and F.) 720p , that bothered me and although our phone is great the resolution made me feel outdated. But that's just me.

So what if a new nexus comes out 5 months from now, look what os the previous nexus is rocking... And look at your T989
[Member-Found Deals] witeboy07:
You know what only keeps me back is white.t989.wth..lol...I saw a review in HD of that phone gnex and no matter what color that phone is sexy...so I will do the trade..I'm always excited about new phones..in my hand..I will stop once I get the note lol.
[Member-Found Deals] ceejay83:
Nexus gets 25 mbps down, I've never gotten those speeds on my Gs2 even. Max I got was 10-15. I'll take vanilla ics over that terrible touchwizzed ics any day
[Member-Found Deals] Krooked22:
What do people think

Is so great about this phone(t989)??? The nexus, will get multiple ics updates, as well as one of the first to receive jellybean.

The correct choice is obvious.
[Member-Found Deals] Jjday7:
Exactly. The ICS update will be the last update for the GSII on tmobile. It took this long to get ICS so the phone is pretty much done from then on. The Galaxy Nexus can continue to live on when Jellybean drops. Thats not even mentioning the support the Galaxy Nexus gets on XDA.

Anyone who says the t989 is a better choice is not looking to the future and living in the now. I would take fast updates and stock ICS over crappy Touchwiz any day.

I enjoyed my t989, both of them. The developers made it bearable but the lack of OEM's and carriers supporting it, killed it for me. I just sold my second one and can't wait to get my Nexus Monday.

I am guessing a lot of people here will be moving over to the Nexus also.
[Member-Found Deals] :
Official support no we will not get jellybean I doubt it will be such a major upgrade like ics was. But most likely get cyanogemod support. Google usually does one big major upgrade like froyo, ics. The other incremental upgrades. We should be good to the next big upgrade to the os.
[Member-Found Deals] Jjday7:
Unfortunately your updates are not coming from Google. They are coming from t-mo and Samsung. It's about making money, not making consumers happy. Too many hands in the pot. Everyone has something to gain by delaying the update. Carrier= sell newly relased phones, OEM= sell newly released phones, consumer= left out to dry.

They already have your money. Why would they care about supporting your phone for years to come.
[Member-Found Deals] :
I just said we will not get jellybean by tmobile samsung... Jellybean will bring a new nexus. Tablet or phone and watch the nexus s never make it to jellybean. Due to hardware restrictions. Cyanogemod team will most likely bring you jellybean. Since it won't be a big upgrade.

If your on xda you won't want carrier updates anyway. Unless they are bug fixes. There is a reason why Google only gives you a one year warranty with the galaxy Nexus. Google won't make a big update like ics till maybe the one after jellybean OEM's will get pissed. Since only the galaxy Nexus, nexus s, and international galaxy s2 has ics. Once again jellybean will not be a huge upgrade probably most likely like froyo -gingerbread difference. Unless you want to stay stock an get updates from Google. Which like very few people do.

I'll add that the only Google supported phone is the usa version. The international version gets updates from samsung. Which takes longer to get.
[Member-Found Deals] scuzzbag87:
how do you get 25mbps on the nexus which the radio is only rated for a theoretical 21mbps hspa+ but the gs2 radio is rated at 42mbps O_o? Please explain
[Member-Found Deals] :
Probably on wifi? 21 down devices never even get close to 21 down. Just like 42 down devices get closest is 26-30 down unless you live right under a data tower.
[Member-Found Deals] ceejay83:
Yea whatever didn't know the exact rating.
[Member-Found Deals] snowglyder:
Sold my GS2 for $340. Not as much as I hoped for, but more than $300 I've seen others posted for locally.

I'm using my old Vibrant... put MIUI4 on it. Anyways, the weird screen streaking in certain conditions bugged me, as well as the resolution. My Vibrant screen is smaller but looks better without those issues. Looking forward to a supported phone with 720p and Google Wallet.

I held off ordering since I didn't sell my phone til Friday night and it wasn't going to ship til Monday anyways. Glad I did since I was going to go the other route and save on tax and shipping. The warranty thing was a concern and for $35 more through Google, that may be a better bet. Any rumors on a deal coming up, or should I just order from Google tomorrow?

Sent from another Galaxy
[Member-Found Deals] Krooked22:
You should without a doubt order from google
[Member-Found Deals] -greenboy-:
on Google Play what version of nexus is on sale? Galaxy Nexus I9250?

I tried and couldn't find out.
[Member-Found Deals] a12m4nd0:
Yes. The GSM version is the I9250, the LTE/VZW version is the SCH-I515.
[Member-Found Deals] Android_Monsters:
I bought a few to sell on craigslist/Ebay. I still can't bring myself to use one as a daily driver. I hope the next Google phone is actually cool
[Member-Found Deals] Christ1119:
Isn't that kinda pointless? You'll probably profit $10 from each you sell, if even that. Plus the time it'll take to travel to meet someone (if going through Craigslist) and you don't profit anything at that point, and eBay fees. I don't know how well Galaxy Nexus are selling in the States especially since most people interested would probably have already seen the Google offer, but here in Canada (well my area anyway) you can grab one LNIB/BNIB off someone for $400 flat with receipt for warranty
[Member-Found Deals] daihung1:
Does the T989 battery fits the galaxy nexus?

Will Tmobile support this phone if it's not one of tmobile phone? I'm concern that if there is a problem with the phone in the future in terms of connections, data, etc, tmobile will not support it by saying I did not buy it from them.
[Member-Found Deals] relldroid:
Yeah exactly I'm not understanding his logic at all. And how is our phone (T989) suitable for a daily driver and not the Nexus

?
[Member-Found Deals] Jjday7:
I would say no since this phone is not sold by them and not part of their lineup. You shouldn't need help from tmobile. Setting can be found all over the web. Everything should be able to be fixed by yourself.
[Member-Found Deals] -greenboy-:
if I9250 is what google is selling then Expansys also selling the same one?

How its not under USA warranty and an international version.

Can someone help me to understand that?

Thanks,
[Member-Found Deals] Jjday7:
Me eiher. With the price being 399.00 straight from google. There is no profit to be made. EBay prices will start to drop if they haven't already. With tax and shopping your probably at 430ish. If you sell it for 460 you'll pay 30 in fees to eBay and PayPal. Making nothing off the deal.
[Member-Found Deals] Christ1119:
Only issues I can think of is the lack of microSD card slot and lower MP camera. Both of which I haven't payed any mind to since getting my Nexus I either clear some stuff out of my phone every now and then to make more space or throw some of my not as needed/used stuff up on my Minus account. Don't get me wrong though I still think Google shoulda thrown 32GB in the GSM model and not cheaped out, maybe next Nexus. The camera quality is fine and the zero lag shutter is great for those wtf moments in pictures
[Member-Found Deals] Master&Slave™:
I don't believe he gas had a nexus...

Look at what he said..."he had 2" lol
[Member-Found Deals] :
My issue is why is the 3.5 jack on the bottom. The audio isnt that great either compared to the samsung galaxy 2 and the speakers are low.
[Member-Found Deals] relldroid:
Yeah I prefer the top aswell, I'm eager to test the audio tho but my status haven't even changed to shipped yet. I ordered friday
[Member-Found Deals] snowglyder:
Where did you order from? I just ordered from Google Play Store. It doesn't really seem detailed on order status.
[Member-Found Deals] relldroid:
Ordered from google, it said I will get an email when they ship it along with a ups taking number
[Member-Found Deals] Christ1119:
International version of the GS2 only gets you Edge on T-Mo. The GSM Galaxy Nexus has both T-Mo 3G+ (or 4G if you'd rather call it that) and AT&T networks bands, meaning it will work with both carriers only one I can think of that won't work at all would be CDMA Nexus (Verizon, Sprint) and the Japanese Nexus (NTT Docomo or something like that), this one will work just fine.
[Member-Found Deals] jdiddy_ub:
so this phone on tmobile would be 21mb max? i mean, no one uses 42mb anyway

if it does id seriously consider buying it if its 21mb

also is this $399 flat or is it gonna be taxed?
[Member-Found Deals] DrHero:
I'd be tempted to sell my 989 and buy one, but it probably doesn't have wifi calling. And even if it only get 21 mbits, i mean has anyone ever run a speed test and gotten over 21? i pull 6-9 and that is fast enough for most any mobile activity. I'm wanting google wallet back from when i had my Nexus S, but like the free wifi calling minutes! I'd like to see that confirmed though.
[Member-Found Deals] Christ1119:
I don't think anyone can even reach near 42Mbps lol. Yes the Nexus will get you 21Mbps max
[Member-Found Deals] rpolito73:
According to the specs, it should get edge, 3g & HSPA+ (14+ mb)...
[Member-Found Deals] Rod3:
No the international version works fine. It is a pentaband phone, works on all GSM carriers. Only downside is 21 mbps.
[Member-Found Deals] motoxxxx:
Its going to be taxed and shipping, total $444 in CA
[Member-Found Deals] mrcrassic:
It doesn't help that its camera totally blows in comparison to all of the GS2's.