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[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
...........*temptation*, right?

We can see right thru the marketing + manipulation, the way the release is built up, the seamless geometry of the manufacturer's relation to the service-provider (renewal of the two-year contract etc)........All Of That; but I can not think of too many other gadgets that compel intelligent beings to DESIRE an object w/ such fierceness! ha ha

Specs look great, will be slidin' my fingers along the Gorilla glass-2 of one of these bad boys soon enough. That said, I admire your ability to overcome temptation long enough to even contemplate 'holding out' for any length of time whatsoever...............gr8 post, congrats on your 100th!

Oh...........just kiddin' w/ the mktng theory/economics spiel, all in good fun! :D. :D. :D

sent from today's Android 4.0.4
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Lol I remember last year I was extremely tempted to get the Epic 4G Touch (even though I couldn't upgrade). Now that my contract ends in July, I've ecstatic to get the Galaxy S3. I wonder if they're going to call it anything different, like the "Galaxy S3 Epic 4G LTE".

Just curious, though, anyone tempted to get the Evo? I was originally, but 2 GB of ram on the GS3 sounds awesome
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
LOL thanks I think ROFL. yeah one of them leaning on gs3 (external card is a big bonus) unless I hear other rumors. it will be tough must be strong....got to keep from the wife too LOL. See with her isn't the bi*ch about the $ just how come she doesn't have one too LOL. then it becomes my issue for $ LOL
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
This article says 2 mics are required for hd voice

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10404

And yes its useless for another year just like my upgrade. :D
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I've felt "more at home" here than at the s2 forums ever since I left the epic
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
ROFL don't know how i missed this comment! Where you 16? ROFL!
[Epic 4G General] a2tz:
Man that's a lot of people that either have jumped ship...or will be jumping. I love my epic and keyboard and cm9 and was planning to wait till I had a kb phone with lte that was available in my area....but that s3 sure is looking looking slick...

I've had an upgrade for like a year I think! Having a quality dev section I think really has started becoming my priority. Amazing things have been done with this phone and make it pretty close to perfect.
[Epic 4G General] Pacorocko:
Wouldn't 32GB internal technically be better/faster than 16GB internal + 16GB SD? Just curious to know if there is a benefit to paying the extra $50....
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Its faster and the SD card slot will still be open
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
But you can save the $50 on the 16gb of built in memory and spend $30 for a 32gb sd card or $70 on a 64gb sd card. The most I ever used on my Epic was about 24gb and that was with way more music than I need.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Not even $30. I saw a few on Amazon for $15 and they were new.
[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
Either way, it's great having it both ways: 32GB internal memory / 16, 32, 64 GB mSD Card; OR ELSE, 16GB internal memory / 16, 32, 64 GB mSD Card.

Fyi: sgs3 pre-order site is now active on sprint website..........(pebbleBlue32GB│ordered)

sent from today's Android 4.0.4
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
Yeah, there were some class 4 cards that cheap. Cheapest class 10 I saw was $27

Edit: Trigger pulled, just ordered the 16gb in white. The website says it comes with a 32gb card as well.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I love seeing this :D
[Epic 4G General] h4kudoshi:
This is why I am undecided to wait and hope we get a new Nexus with the QWERTY and Jellybean, if not it will be a perfect time to jump ship to a S3 as there will have already been a couple month of development behind it.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Jelly yes but keyboard ... :(

Doesn't seem to be featured in flagship devices anymore
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
If you want a laugh go look at what the evolte guys are saying about it. :D:D:D ... nothing but fan boys.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1691317
[Epic 4G General] Jbluna:
sucks that they're not keeping the 'Epic' name for this one. It'd be just like the original evo & epic launch (history repeats itself :P)
[Epic 4G General] h4kudoshi:
Hopefully the rumors are true

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...physical-keyboard-could-woo-blackberry-users/
[Epic 4G General] :
Those evo Lte making judgements based on the internation SGS3 instead of the U.S SGS3 which isn't here yet, smh. And one guy said he'll stick with an evo shift over a nexus s :o really?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
No that is a great thing. You would have a dozen new idiots a day posting here thinking this is their forum.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
So tempted to troll that lmao :D
[Epic 4G General] :
It's only right ;)
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
You guys have no idea how hard it was to stay out of it.... in the end I just started to laugh their stupid fanboisms and retarded pros and cons.
[Epic 4G General] jsmcmahon89:
Pre-ordered my SGSIII! and LMAO @ the HTC Fanboys
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I'm sure there are posts exactly like this in their forum too. We're Samsung fans, they're HTC fans. It is what it is.

HTC guy: Our build quality is better than cheap plastic

Samsung guy: Our screen is better (before they used pentile, which is overblown IMO)

HTC guy: Your radios suck

Samsung guy: My mfg sells more phones than anyone in the world, so they can't be that bad.

I'm a golfer and you should see the crap that happens in TaylorMade vs. Titleist threads. Same s*it, different pile.

TaylorMade guy: The new R11 is fricking awesome, best product yet

Titleist guy: You took an old driver and painted it white, it's color, not progression

TaylorMade guy: Rocketballz is the best thing ever (yes, that is an actual name for a line of clubs, and I heard RocketFuel was patent-pending...seriously)

Titleist guy: It's still white and still just coloring. The sweet, subtle changes my company has made for the past 20 years, even though they're almost identical, is true innovation.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
It doesn't hurt being right. :D
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
I'd consider the EVO LTE if it had a removable battery, but that's a deal breaker for me. Battery performance eventually deteriorates, especially if you are the kind who lets it drain to almost dead a lot. I've seen it with my Epic. Started doing weird things and simply wouldn't last as long as it used to. Buying a new battery made it feel like a new phone.
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
Do we have a picture of the actual phone? Or not yet?
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
I feel just like UBER Nexus forever, never again going with something dependant on the carrier or manufacturer for software upgrades or bloatware they add.

The one thing I can not stand on the GNEX threads are some of the users, they obviously never read the rules on XDA and they all feel such an entitlement like they are owed stuff, demanding developers to hurry up, demanding certain apps be ported over. Upset because a Theme app in the market cost $1.00.

The Epic community is great, unfortunately now just like Android its going to be fragmented more, because people are headed in different directions.

The Mods have great patience and may the all mighty bless them

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] sryans2004:
Whoever says HTC build quality is better then Samsung's is out of their mind. I work in a machine shop, where I get dirt and everything in my phones. I've had my epic the whole year I been working there. I took my htc evo in there for about 2 weeks, the speaker blew, touch screen failed on me. I have dents on it and the white paint is chipping off. My epic seriously still looks brand new. My evo build quality was complete junk compared to my Samsung. Even my co-workers phone can't stand up to the place we work in, one dude has a Droid 4 and had it for 3 months and has had to get it replaced every month he has had it due to his speaker blowing, oh and he already has some dents on the phone also. Its crazy how much my phone has taken since I have had it. That is what will make me not leave Samsung again, I'm going to forget the fact it took a little while for some updates and stick with build quality

I think them HTC fan boys need to hit up a real phone, just my 2 cents :)
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
For what it's worth, I completely agree with you. With the beating my wife puts on her phones, her Epic is in great shape. If she had anything else (iPhone for sure, HTC, etc) we would've already had to replace it by now, probably a few times.
[Epic 4G General] carm0033:
Rumors floating around today that the Galaxy Note 2 may be released this October with a 5.5 inch 1680x1050 display. If that's the case, I'm waiting for it. I don't care at this point whether Sprint gets the original Note. The last 2 years have been a rollercoaster with them. First year was great, awesome 4G service. The last year I have watched my coverage get progressively worse. I am sick of having to use my friend's Verizon phones to stream music at parties cause I can't get a signal anymore (and I'm on the 11115 PRL with Roam Control, WTF?) My decision to get off Sprint this fall is 80% coverage fail and 20% them refusing to give anyone info as to whether they are getting the Note or not. If you can't have the phone you want, and your coverage is steadily declining in quality, well the writing's on the wall for me. I'm buying an unlocked Note 2 and getting off this sinking ship, probably to Straight Talk. Until then, I'll continue rocking my OG Epic, which I still love. As much as I hate Sprint, I love this phone and everything this forum has done for it. /end rant

http://www.tech.sc/samsung-galaxy-note-2-release-date/

http://www.intomobile.com/2012/06/0...nd-october-55-inch-1680-x-1050-pixel-display/
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Galaxy nexus > evo lte

I played with both today. The evo is garbage compared to the nexus ui wise. The evo sense looks like gb. The nexus just felt faster and smoother and delivered a true ics experience. Hardware is the only thing going for the evo and that's not much.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
This is our answer for needing a kb

http://m.gizmodo.com/5915930/this-p...appears-and-disappears-on-top-of-touchscreens
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
The thing about life is that when things are too good to be true they usually are not true. On amazon there is a lot of bad SD cards and its really hard to find a good one for 15
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Its on the sprint site

And it looks exactally like the international one
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
So you're saying this is bad?

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...0AD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338953931&sr=8-1
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Sometimes they are formatted at 16 or 32 gb but are actually 2or 4 gb cards and all the stuff u put in after its actually capacity is corrupted

And on amazon you never know unless it qualify for amazon prime
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Cool tech, but that isn't an answer. Outside of the physical keypress, many of us don't like the loss of screen real estate. That solution still gives up screen real estate. I hate typing in blank text boxes when there is surrounding information I am usually referring to, especially for work. I have a 4+ inch screen, i want to see it at all times, not a 2" sliver of it when i'm typing.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Eh sounds a bit paranoid but now you got me a bit concerned.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Eh sounds a bit paranoid but now you got me a bit concerend.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
sdcardtester

great app from the PlayStore: sdcardtester will immediately let you know what is up w/ the new mSD Card that you purchase, OR, what is wrong w/ the old one that is veering on two-years old: volume, read + write speeds, you'll know right away if the 32GB online bargain was such a bargain after all :D
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I've seen reviews of this happening and it happened to me a few years back.

I bought a 4 gb SD card and after adding around 2 gb of stuff the SD card would have nothing on it. 1 gb-ish was fine but once I added that next gb the thing would just show as no data
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Agreed! I've had my epic for a little over a year, my wife has had her evo the same... I've dropped my phone at least 10 times, my wife, only once... guess who has the cracked screen! Lmao
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
How do the radios on HTC's phones compare to Samsungs? I'm thinking of going to the darkside. Leave the fanboy stuff aside. I'd like to hear from people that have owned both brands.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Honestly, I hate to say it, but htc radios are far superior to samsungs... my wifes evo has way better signal whether it be wifi, 3g, or 4g while we are standing right next to each other... htc radios are unfortunately better than samsungs...
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Will this translate into download speeds, specifically over 3G? I ask because the 3G speeds around Chicago seriously want to make me run head first into a wall, then throw up all over myself. Okay, maybe a bit too far, but you get the idea. It's absolutely horrid. I'm wondering if HTC phones would then have better speeds at the same location as Samsung phones.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
Chicago should be getting NV quite soon. Probably fully rolled out by about October - November.

As far as the phones, yes, traditionally HTC has been better than Samsung at radios. Given the GNex still has complaints, Samsung may or may not have learned anything yet. However, per the S4GRU breakdown, that may not be the case this time around:

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-galaxy-s3-passes-fcc-muster-launch-imminent/

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-159-htc-evo-4g-lte-tech-details-revealed-in-fcc-oet-filing/

The GS3 has higher output power level in the 1900Mhz area, which is the predominant Sprint band.

Anyhow, after considerable debate, I think I'm going to get the GS3, for the following reasons:

1. Myn is going to the GS3. He's a great ROM developer/hacker that I worked with in the HTC Vogue Windows Mobile days.

2. The GS3 is being released in the same configuration on all 4 US Carriers, giving a larger dev community as a whole. Gone are the under-the-hood differences that hindered cross-development with the GS1/GS2.

3. The same form factor is being used world-wide. This should mean a larger user base to attract third-party developers. Accessories such as extended batteries, different car docks, etc.

4. There are reports that with the aluminum frame and lesser antenna, signal on the EVO LTE is attenuated and not as good as the EVO 4G.

5. Recently, there are large reports of a week point near the kickstand on the EVO LTE, and phones have been bending slightly in people's pockets. Yeah, you can bend it back, but over time the phone might break.

I'm still attracted by the true 720p and high quality camera, but the above is too much to ignore. I prefer Sense to TouchWiz, but this is likely moot as I'll probably CM9 any phone I get.

Of course, any defects in the GS3 could change this.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Yes it reflects in real time download speeds... my wife can download a 13mb app is about 30 secs... for me it takes at least 60 secs if not more... speedtest app reflects the difference as well.. but as was stated before, older gen devices don't have the same hardware, so samsung could indeed have stepped it up this time around...
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Quite obviously the iPhone 5... kidding. I'm getting the next nexus, GS4 or maybe the GS3.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
From what I have read, your last point isn't true. I have seen speedtests in the EVO LTE section where people compare the original evo or 3d to lte in speedtests and in most of those the lte is over twice as fast.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
I've heard people say the EVO LTE was faster as well, but those tests may or may not be scientific. I'm inclined to believe them, mostly for the more modern chipset, which the GS3 should enjoy as well.

The signal attenuation is scientific. The FCC testing documents specifically state the EVO LTE's antenna is -2dB @ 1900Mhz while the Evo 4G is +1dB. That's a 3dB difference or 50% power.
[Epic 4G General] nitekillerz:
any rumors?

does anyone know any rumors of a new samsung phone with good specs and a keyboard? i been sitting on an upgrade for a while now and the GS3 looks super enticing but i love my epics keyboard. i don't want to upgrade and then have a keyboard phone come out.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
The only high end phone coming with a keyboard we know of is the LG rumored phone(its on briefmobile.com )

~E.R.A.
[Epic 4G General] Mama Luigi:
I'll have to agree with the other poster who said that HTC radios are better. I have experience using the following phones:

Samsung Moment

Samsung Epic

HTC Evo 4G

HTC One S

The Moment had all sorts of horrible radio issues, with a GPS that never worked and the data would regularly cut out and require a restart to get it working again. My Epic has been okay in this regard, but the reception is still inferior to my wife's Evo. I usually get one bar less reception than her, and my wifi signal is usually weak unless I am RIGHT next to the router.

I temporarily used a One S for a week before I returned it and decided not to stay with T-Mobile. The phone was great though. Reception was great, and wifi signal was always better than my Epic when it was in the same spot.

So yeah, in my own limited experience, HTC phones are better than Samsungs as far as radios and reception is concerned.
[Epic 4G General] Bluerai:
I'd love to see comparisons of reception between the One S and the GSIII to see if it still holds true
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
I'd love to see a comparison of actual dBm and not "bars" when doing the comparison. Who's to say HTC and Samsung don't use different thresholds for their signal bars graphic.
[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/apple-calls-for-an-early-ban-on-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/

Really? "data-tapping" and "voice actions"?

9 million pre-orders (London, unconfirmed) + it's off to court to deal w/ injunction$.........:(

But these injunctions by Apple against other device-makers are so common these days, hardly qualifies as news anymore.......samsung has already stated that it will ship sgs3 as planned...............still sucks tho.

sent from today's Android 4.0.4
[Epic 4G General] Bluerai:
Exactly. Even when we put on different themes, some have more bars on the display than others.. So dBm for wifi and the phone signal comparisons would be awesome!
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
As I said before, I have done comparisons, and I didn't use "signal bars" to do so... real life speeds and dbm goes to htc hands down... so far... I can post some screenies of the comparisons (between epic 4g and evo 4g) later if you want... htc wins easy...
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
And apple is at it again! They are now seeking an injunction to stop sales on the SIII... will it ever stop? http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/06/06/...iii-sales/?icid=tc_mobile_art&category=mobile
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I don't think any LG phone qualifys as high end
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I think the s4 is designed to run at low power.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
It's not necessarily that it's an LG, it's the fact that it's a last year's dual core S4 with a wvga 4" screen. So it is pretty much scraping the lower level of mid tier when it'll finally arrive in the 3rd quarter. The Epic was on par with the Evo when it came out. Now their slider has been relegated to 2nd class, ips screen or not. Tired of vga. Tired of sliders playing 2nd fiddle. Maybe if one company actually made one properly, it could steal slate sales and actually get a little recognition. Even the droid 4 is full of compromises. If someone would make a slider with the One/gs3 innards and a 4.3" 720 res screen with a thin enough body, it would steal sales from slates and have a following. They did enough right with the epic it's lasted into a 3rd generation and spawned a verizon cousin. You'd think a gs3 slider would be a no brainer comparing the slimness of a gs3 to a an og galaxy. You'd easily knock 3mm off of the epic, come in lightweight and have a winner.
[Epic 4G General] djjroc007:
A-holes! Do they even ever win any of these cases?
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
So has anyone confirmed that the GSIII can operate in the 800mhz LTE band that Sprint will bring online in a couple of years?

Edit: NVM, looks like it in fact does not from the FCC filings. Well that sucks.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Yeah and no hd voice. I think they just rushed that phone to compete with htc phones and for that reason ill wait for a better phone.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Agreed. The LTE chip on the S3 is not future-proof, and is not of the low-power consumption variety that Qualcomm is expected to produce. I already have a phone that does not have a future (WiMax) so might as well wait a little more to get one that has.
[Epic 4G General] siirus09:
I have 6 months left on my contract. I called Customer Service to see if they could be nice to their 5 year customer and just tack on 2 years to my contract with the benefit of having my wife pre-order her S3 also and getting my $200 now instead of later.

They said no =( Way to not take my money Sprint. Guess I got to sell my organs now.
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
galaxy s III chat room

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gs3-sprint
[Epic 4G General] Bluerai:
Yeah I believe the epic vs evo signal..

Was more curious about a refreshed battle type of deal I guess. Not sure how "fair" it is to compare signal on a brand new phone vs our epic's though. Maybe Sammy fixed the radio issues..

Here's to hoping that the rumored 5 devices on 11/5 are more futureproof with their LTE chip and have these lower battery consumption goodies that are being mentioned :)
[Epic 4G General] Systom:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1655591

(Sprint early upgrade buyout program, worth a shot.)
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
Are most of our devs going over to the gs3? sucks that it won't support the LTE sprint is going to have. Makes me seriously consider waiting for something else. I use wimax all the time. Don't know if I could go to no 4g at all.
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
It will work with Sprint lte just launching now, just not the future 800mhz LTE in 2 or 4 years. By that time the phone will be so outdated it won't matter.

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
One more year left for iden before they can switch 800mhz over. That should get most of us through an upgrade cycle.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Remember they changed it to 20 months now for upgrades with contract extension.
[Epic 4G General] Naddict:
Damn any contract times, don't care about whether or not my upgrade time is up or not, goin' to the big store with the yellow tag above the doors and reserving my two GS III's tomorrow. That is, if the judge does the right thing today (which is typical Apple BS, I am sure you all know that though) :)
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Best buy still tells me 22 months so I can't get the gs3 until the first of July

I wanna try calling and asking if they can push my upgrade 10 days so I can get the gs3 on release

Anyone know the number of that old upgrade resetting place? I forgot the name of the thread or else I would have searched
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Wow. I've been out of the country for a week and the GS3 gets announced. Sweet!
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
AFTER this upgrade it will change to 20 months. meaning whichever phone you get now, you will be able to upgrade again in 20 months....well before Sprint's 2nd band of LTE will be in operation.
[Epic 4G General] xjayman:
I'll be lucky to see 1st band of lte in 20 months in Wisconsin