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[Atrix 4G General] palmbeach05:
WebTop is dead, GenTop2 is also dead. This is a feature that was a test by Moto. Test was good while it lasted, but has been replaced by tablet mode/mirror mode. Our KK builds have completely scrapped the webtop partition. The OP hasn't been seen online since 2012.
[Atrix 4G General] mak_v_:
so which KK firmware you recommend for daily use as phone & lapdock?
[Atrix 4G General] DooMaster:
So far none, to make a Tablet mode in KK Rom will be long story, they will manage mirror at best in the short therm.

If you need some kind of laptop mode, I'll recomend you AtrICS or ICSRom with latest Krystianp's kernel, it works out of box and very good.
[Atrix 4G General] mak_v_:
AtrICS-v2.0_20140107 show me "doubled" display with artifacts without chances to work :confused:

CSROM-v7.0 show only mobile mirror of phone's display (and based on stock)

Do you know about working firmware with Atrix 4G Lapdock? Can you give link to download??
[Atrix 4G General] palmbeach05:
The latest 2012 version of AtrICS v2 is the one you should use if you are going to use it for a mirror mode.

Lapdock unknown to me due to the fact that I never bought it.
[Atrix 4G General] DooMaster:
As Palmbeach stated, use 2012 AtrICS ROM with latest Krystianp's Kernel (June I think). I'm using right now ICSRom 1.4.6 (look at my signature) and I have Lapdock mode working good, only bug it is shrinks image no matter that options is activated or not. You should look at AtrICS thread in the ROM develpment section.

Best Regards
[Atrix 4G General] mak_v_:
After flashing Krystianp's kernel Webtop works as v3.0 (not mirroring). But resolution have i lost pixels....
[Atrix 4G General] xdej:
I have worked a lot on gentooandroid.sourceforge.net.

Follow then the installation instructions in https://sourceforge.net/p/gentooandroid/wiki/InstallingInstructions/

I have tested it on Android 4.4. Please report any bugs here.

emerge is now working without -G, which means it can compile some other packages. The problem now is that it is only about three-year old packages. I am now working on that now.

I have emerged firefox, gnucash, evince, fluxbox, x11vnc, ...
[Atrix 4G General] x86demon:
Does anyone have the original GenTop zip? Links from original post are not reachable anymore.
[Atrix 4G General] AdrianTry:
LuckiIy for you I have found those files on my HDD ;). After they are done uploading I will post the link.
[Atrix 4G General] x86demon:
Thank you! Waiting for upload
[Atrix 4G General] AdrianTry:
Here are the uploaded files:

GenTop2-20120509.tar.gz - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7LaU7jOu85TbFp1SngwSklZWFk/view

GenTop2-20120509-portage.tar.bz2 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7LaU7jOu85TVFNCV3ZUREVsZDg/view

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] Alaq:
1. Follow this guide.

2. Save everything and close the lid, everything will stay open until you restart your phone.

4. Yes.

6. The open office you install have to be for arm, so we must wait until someone can get the bin from ubuntu...

[Edit] I think it's about time the webtop got it's own section...
[Atrix 4G General] eurosport360:
Doesn't that take up a lot of resources?
[Atrix 4G General] Alaq:
Well even on the original webtop there is no way to close everything, you just close the lid and take the phone out... It's designed that way so you can go places with your stuff still open... If you really want to close the webtop, just restart your phone and webtop will be closed.
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
Here you go, libreoffice compiled for armel (softfloat armv7),

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/armel/libreoffice/1:3.5.2-2ubuntu1

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/armel/libreoffice/1:3.4.4-0ubuntu1

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/armel/libreoffice/1:3.4.3-3ubuntu2

or if you want to search for more openoffice or libreoffice, or any other package,

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/armel?text=libreoffice

installing .deb precompiled files on gentoo is not practical and it can sometimes break things, however to get an office suite to work on it, its still probably the easiest way to just install that. About installing .deb/.rpm files on gentoo:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5934665.html

you basically need to use the "ar" command to extract it and than if i dont mistaken too much, copy the things that get extracted to the appropriate folders. (one thing to consider is its dependencies, so check into it) and dont forget to document somewhere where and which files you have "installed" in this manner.

One thing comes up though, for general use porting the full ubuntu armel, would probably be more practical than gentoo, but im very happy that Gendol managed to get gentoo to work, since i prefer it over ubuntu!

edit: for the people who want to set time, use the "date" command in a root terminal to set it up.

and another thing, dont log in as root, that is never a smart idea, just login as the user than use su in terminal to do root things like emerging and so on
[Atrix 4G General] Alaq:
Thanks! I'll be working on this when I get home...
[Atrix 4G General] eurosport360:
Last noob question.

I just our purchased a 32 gig sd card to replace this 16 gig.

Even though I have everything working and installed on the partition in this 16 gig card, I would think that all you would have to do is make a partition on my new card and install the second tarball again? The first tarball installed to internal flash while the second installs to the external partition.

Or would I have to dismount/disable webtop first and then install?
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
you can just set up your external sdcard as its said in the first post, so that the secondary partition on it will be for portage and than unpack the tarball onto it (you can do both easier on the pc with a card reader), turn off the phone, replace the cards and afterwards in the gentop from a su terminal run "emerge --sync" and "emerge -pvuND world" (the second command checks for which packages are to be updated and shows them to you, without starting the update - p is pretend)
[Atrix 4G General] teeth_03:
Is there a way to use adb shell to backup the changes this makes and revert if neccessary? I have a rooted but locked BL, i run stock firmware but i want to use the best webtop alternative, and would like to give this a try.

I am currently running webtop2sd with XFCE4, and yes, its pretty slow, but i like the ability to redo the webtop if i break something, so having an easy backup method would be nice.

So why gentoo and not a flavor of debian?
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
You could tar or rsync the webtop partition as a matter of backup.
[Atrix 4G General] glocklee:
I think your "yes it's pretty ..... but I like ...." has explained it. :-D
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
Hehe, I just have to say again how cool this is!

Btw if you guys want to ssh to the gentop you can use sshdroid and connect to "adas@127.0.0.1" and type the adas pass and you are in :D
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
I have a CWM flashable zip template that I've been using for Ubuntop on the Photon since January. It installs Ubuntop in about 6mins. Any of the devs interested so as to make Gentop CWM zip?
[Atrix 4G General] giuanz:
Yes Yes Yes indeed pls!

I was thinking about overcoming the 800M partition limit by replacing /osh with a loopmount to a local file in the internal SD card - if I make any sense.

(I'm no dev but I love to screw around, and hopefully I'll become good enough to contribute back)

:-)
[Atrix 4G General] kisposi:
Are you able to play flash videos on facebook? When I try to play them it shows that I need to update flash. But youtube works. Any idea?
[Atrix 4G General] zomgno1:
I believe facebook video requires flash 10.3 and above.. the current version in this is 10.2..

Btw, have any of you guys experienced the mouse pointer jumping to the bottom right of the screen?
[Atrix 4G General] eurosport360:
Is there a list somewhere of Portage programs/packages?

Preferably compatible with arm.

Also, when running emerge vuND, the first package it installs out of 24 is glibc. It is taking forever to compile. I wish I had a list of these programs and their descriptions. I don't even know what glibc is.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Here's the flashable template I've been using for UbunTop Photon. Edit the scripts as needed.
[Atrix 4G General] USSRxAZ:
eurosport360

with my low linux skills:

i am reading descriptions using

emerge --search <name of app>
[Atrix 4G General] nalorite:
I ran out of space in osh during my first emerge (emacs). What's the recommended way to get more space without breaking anything?

Also, has anyone managed to successfully emerge a jre? I get a laundry list of errors, but it seems like it doesn't like our older X server.
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
Google is your friend.... Glibc is the main library, without it nothing works ;)
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
Do you have room on the data partition?

You want to compile icedtea or just sun jre? Neither will work, sun jre is a bin, and which isn't arm precompiled and icedtea needs more ramp and tmp space to compile, im not sure that even than it would compile.
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
hey Gendol did you maybe manage to get the atrix's screen to turn off while in gentop mode? One can turn it off with the power button but than the hdmi output ceases aswell, i was looking into the xorg.conf, and maybe we could somehow make it override the internal TFT so that it goes blank/turns off
[Atrix 4G General] flexpackman:
crnkoj,

I've been running this the past couple of days on a LapDock and the Atrix screen always turns off. I'm using NottachTrix's 1.31 ROM. On inserting the phone into the LapDock, I get the list of what type of docking session I'm doing and WebTop is one of the selections, which is what I have it defaulted to. If there are any settings or files that I can supply to help on this situation, let me know and I'll post. I also have the Multimedia dock, but have not tried Gentoo in it to see if it behaves differently. I think you are using the HDMI Hack, so maybe that changes the entire situation.

My install is like CaelanT's also. My tar extractions did not go to proper partitions AFAIK. I have no files in either the EXT3 or the other partition created in the dev folder of the external SDCARD. My Portage libraries folder is under \mnt\Gentoo\Portage.

I have a larger sdcard coming today that I am going to rebuild on again and will see what I get this time.....

My Linux skills are improving, but still in beta at the moment :)
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Should be no selection required for webtop. Plug phone in, open lapdock screen, phone screen goes off, webtop starts.

Also, I reinstalled and am now running off my ext3 partition on sdcard. No more issues with space.
[Atrix 4G General] flexpackman:
Your correct that running Gentoo requires no selection on the phone screen. I just still get the popup screen on the phone after putting it in the LapDock on what you want the screen to do on the Atrix - WebTop, Widget Clock, etc.

On your reinstall, did you do anything different than you did before to get the files to go to the correct folders? I was using the latest files from the 28th. I didn't know if I should be at a certain "folder" level for the tar extraction or it the tar has the full paths stored in. I followed Gendol's post, but it didn't come out the same....

If you could comment on that i would surely appreciate it!
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
The mistake I made was altering the mount partition manually in ubuntu.sh from /bin/mount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 /mnt/gentoo. I changed this to show mmcblk1p1 because I did not have two ext3 partitions. I had a FAT32 and ext3 partition, and thought the file system would not look at the FAT32 partition as mmcblk1p1 when in fact it did. This is why I had portage in the wrong partition. On my second install I changed no files and the correct partition was used for the portage tarball. Hope this makes sense to you! :-)
[Atrix 4G General] nalorite:
I have space pretty much everywhere except osh:

And I get errors like this:

So is the solution to expand the size of osh or to somehow tell emerge to install somewhere else?

Concerning java, I just want something that can run jars. I found an android app that does remote mouse/keyboard on linux (to replace the webtop virtual touchpad for hdmi hack), but the server for it is a jar. Worst comes to worst, I'll just roll my own virtual touchpad in something other than java.
[Atrix 4G General] flexpackman:
Yep! Makes sense to me. Tells me their is pilot error on my side of the computer :(

Oh well, as one of my borrowed sayings go, "Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement."

Time to go get some Experience! :D

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G General] crnkoj:
I had this issue today when i put on the portage fs and so on. It took me some time to figure it out actually and in the end i just mounted an usb hdd to /osh/var/tmp , i connected the hdd which was (seen as /dev/block/sda) and mounted with " mount /dev/block/sda2 /osh/var/tmp " i used sda2 because my ext4 partition on the hdd is the sda2. Before doing that i retried fixing the symlink for var/tmp but even after deleting it and manually doing it it still gave me the same error, that is why i used a hdd than (apart form the fact that it doesnt destroy my sdcard that much). I do not know why this is happening, but maybe gendol has an idea. i was thinking of using the 16gb sdcard i have (using a 4gb now) and making 2 partitions, one for "/usr/portage" on it and the second for /var/tmp and than just put into the fstab to mount that partition to /var/tmp , i think its a better solution than the symlinking anyways.

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ah, ok thanks for the info, im using the hdmi hack with nottachtrix 1.3.1 like yours and i select the webtop on the picker like you do, apparently the lapdock sends some signal that makes it turn off the lcd of the atrix.

Would oyu midn making a dmesg in gentoo after connecting it to the lapdock and than pastebinning it. (you can use dmesg > dmesg.txt && wgetpaste dmesg.txt) if you have wgetpaste installed on your gentoo, otherwise just do dmesg > dmesg.txt and paste it to pastebin.com . That way maybe even us with a hdmi hack could get it to turn off the screen.

As for you getting errors with emerge (if i understood your second part correctly), you can partly read my above post, otherwise i would suggest to do so: after you get your new sdcard, partition it on your pc with linux into 4 partitions (assuming its a 16gb card) first partition for android use should be fat (i would say 4gb) the rest of the partitions should be ext4 (and do man mkfs.ext4 to see what the m option does), second part (/dev/block/mmcblk1p2) should be for /usr/portage (i would say 2-4gb), than i would suggest a third partition for /var/tmp (id say 4-6gb at least), and a fourth with the spare, to use it maybe to mount /home/adas onto it (to have more space for downloads and so on),

than put all of this into the gentoo fstab that you find under /osh/etc/

that should be a better setup than the symlinks, in my opinion. I dont have time now and i am kind of sorry to waste my 16gb card for this, so i didnt try it all yet, but when i get more time ill try this myself. Still for compiling stuff i would suggest to mount /osh/var/tmp to an usb hdd, since i doubt there is a need to compile things ( at least the big ones like, gcc, glibc, webkit etc) on the go :P

Ah! i was just compiling the new gcc and it finished but since there is no space on the osh partition, it failed installing it ... seems ill have to sacrifice my 16gb sdcard sooner rather than later =/
[Atrix 4G General] kisposi:
Hi, I intalled mplayer, but I'm having problem with the playback of HD videos recorded by the phone. The sound is ok but the video is very slow. what option should I use? I just played it with the command mplayer. Sorry I'm new to linux.
[Atrix 4G General] flexpackman:
crnkoj,

I just got back in my office and am leaving to go to a baseball game :)

I'll get you that file but it may be in the morning as it will be late when I get home and the wife won't appreciate me working on the computer then :p
[Atrix 4G General] giuanz:
Thanks Lokifish,

I have gone as far as running your Photon WebTop+ on Atrix (by shrinking the ext3 image to 800M and then running WebTop2SD). It loaded fine, just the system font had some minor visualization errors (I tried to fix by reinstalling all fonts .deb's but no success).

Anyway, WebTop 1.2 is still based on Ubuntu 9.04, which is obsolete to me. Thinking out loud, maybe I can find a way to run a chrooted 12.04 distro, with apps displaying either on the WebTop's old Xorg or on Xephyr-Xorg in a window.

(anyone else, sorry for the OT)
[Atrix 4G General] Alaq:
Wait? Please explain to me exactly what you did to get Webtop+ working on your atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
PM ME! I need someone to work with on that as I don't have an atrix

Everybody else:

I planned on updating numerous projects before getting involved in another but if Gendol is cool with it (it's his baby) I'll look at making this flashable.
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
can you run the commands from terminal emulator on the phone or is adb necessary? this looks pretty awesome so i figure i'll try it out =D

also, i haven't used a blur rom in ages. which one would you guys recommend for maximum battery life? my goal is to get this set up and keep cwm back ups so when i absolutely need it i can run gentoo but for everything else i can run cm9 for it's utterly amazing performance/battery life
[Atrix 4G General] Alaq:
Nottachtrix.com, hands down...
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
that's blur? I thought it was a cm7 build and not compatible with this?
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
wait I'm thinking nuetrino . I guess I'll try the terminal emu and see what happens
[Atrix 4G General] Alaq:
Nuetrino won't work... That is CM7... Nottachtrix is the fastest deblured ROM out there...
[Atrix 4G General] flexpackman:
crnkoj,

dmesg output @ http://pastebin.com/KFG4gh6h

Hope it helps!
[Atrix 4G General] giuanz:
All credits go to Lokifish - I just resized a file.

Here what I did, using a Linux system:

* in Lokifish WebTop+ 1.2b, extract webtop.img

- loopmount it to check that space used inside is less than 800MB (you can skip this step IF USING 1.2b, the newest one you need to check)

* resize2fs WebTop+_v1.2/osh/webtop.img 393216 (because original atrix webtop = 805306368 bytes = 393216 * 2048 bytes)

* now you have a webtop.img which is the correct size = 805306368 bytes

* gzip it again and replace webtop.img.gz it in the original zip file.

Voilà, we have a CWM-flashable Photon WebTop+, now fits Atrix.

Copy to phone, flash it in recovery mode and reboot.

It works but you have only 13 MB free on /osh.

So install and run WebTop2SD to move it to a larger partition on the SD card.

Once done that, follow Lokifish's instructions in zipfile to upgrade it to UbunTop.

Lokifish: sure I'll PM you
[Atrix 4G General] kisposi:
What kind of video player do you use on gentop? For me mplayer is not ok.
[Atrix 4G General] djpa:
Gendol, this is incredible! One quick question though: shouldn't it be possible to get a firefox binary through Qemu or a cross-compiler?
[Atrix 4G General] Vazay:
Better to get it from original Webtop
[Atrix 4G General] Ollonk:
I am very much interested in this project, but due to time constraints I am waiting for something flashable or installable.(I don't currently have 2+ hours to invest in getting Webtop to work when I already have one that functions decently.)

I'm really liking what I see though!
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
so far so good. the terminal emu is currently extracting the tar ball. the only thing i didn't do directly on the phone is extract the nottachtrix rom xD

nottachtrix seems bad ass so far. i'm eagerly awaiting the completion of the tar ball so i can see just how wicked fast this bad boy is.

hot damn that's fast. but no flash is a bummer. has anyone successfully installed a fp for midori? i haven't set up emerge yet, i'll be doing that part later tonight
[Atrix 4G General] -={antibyte}=-:
Gentoo on the Atrix is very cool :)

It should be possible to use distcc to compile everything on

the desktop PC using a cross compiler toolchain like Linaro.

This would speed up compiling and workaround memory limitations.

You actualy emerge like normal but distcc sends all code over WLAN to the

compiler on the desktop and receives the object files ready for linking.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml?style=printable
[Atrix 4G General] zomgno1:
Are you sure you are using the updated (20120428) version? There is flash and it can play 720p youtube videos just fine.
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
i must've done something wrong earlier. you tube is playing fine, and other flash based sites are ok.
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
hmmm will someone test hulu? it's not working. it will load ads but when it gets to the vid it's blank. check out the avengers trailer =)

the app isn't working on nottachtrix either. it fcs at loading video
[Atrix 4G General] djpa:
The original binary gives a bus error, and my C++ isn't good enough to give me an idea of what that is.

I might try distcc, but I feel like building a proper toolchain from scratch is going to be more work than just installing in a VM. I've never used Linaro, but my brief run-ins with crosstool all ended in disaster.

No Hulu here either...
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
ok, i get that i need to partition my sd and make sure i have an etc3 partition at mmcblk1p2 but what do i do with the portage tarball? any help is much appreciated...

wait ok, i think i answered my newb question. just run the tar command on the new file? conversely, extract using 7 zip then move it onto the phone? =D i'll see if it works anyway

thanks for checking. hopefully i can get the app working on nottachtrix and it won't be an issue
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
ah phew, thanks for that. i had no idea what it was talking about with masked packages and such.

well for anyone who see's this in the future and is a little newbish with a command line like me you gotta run tar differently for bz2. just put the portage tarball at /sdcard and run this stuff via terminal emulator or run it in terminal on gentop

su
tar -xvjf /sdcard/GenTop2-portage-20120428.tar.bz2
[Atrix 4G General] tools42:
Hi all,

I am a bit of a noob with adb shell commands and i am having problems running the tar xvzf /sdcard/GenTop2-20120428.tar.gz line.

with a lower case z i get

invalid option -- z

with an upper case Z i get

tar: invalid magic

tar: short read

any help would be appreciated
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Copy and paste it right from the OP! :)

If you do everything as the OP instructs, it works, so you may be doing something else wrong. Make sure you have spaces where there should be spaces, and no spaces where there shouldn't.

Does everything else work up to that point?
[Atrix 4G General] djpa:
Not for me, I had to use gunzip on it first. @tools: if you're on a linux distribution, try:

gunzip Gentop2-20120428.tar.gz

then, mv the resulting tar file (not tar.gz) to / and do (from adb this time)

tar xvf Gentop2-20120428.tar