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[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Two months from announcement to release on Sprint. Still no slider mentioned. I already ditched the Photon Q to go back to the Epic. I won't entertain another slate unless it has a decent keyboard case. I love the latest and greatest, but I'll settle for that in my tablet since utility matters more in my phone and the Epic solves that one better than any slate. Then again, I doubt I'll see another 9" tablet that can match the size and weight of the Tab 8.9 so I might be stuck there as well. New tech everywhere and it's all useless to me....blah. Gnote2 with a BT slider case, and I'm sold.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
Any rumors for the LG phone? Press conference is tomorrow, really think optimus G, is going to be a great phone
[Epic 4G General] pvtjoker42:
starting to like the idea of the note 2.. wasn't sure how i'd feel about it.. but it's pretty slick once i got to play around with the note..
[Epic 4G General] samdsox:
check that link you posted again....it was updated
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Htc has rumors of the one x 5 which is supposedly a 1080p quadcore s4 5" one x equipped with a larger battery. Supposed to hit verizon soon, no word on sprint yet, but I hope so. I'd prefer htc to lg I think at least based on earlier devices.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Yes. False hope.

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[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
LG Optimus G/Eclipse has unremovable battery and unremovable SD btw.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
If that's the case, both are dealbreakers. I wasn't seriously considering an LG phone until seeing the specs of the Eclipse, but it won't be on my upgrade list.
[Epic 4G General] faceless:
well, Note 2 100% confirmed for Sprint with that PR.

hope it's covered by team epiccm!

in the meantime, i'll enjoy these last few months of my Epic 4G rocking CM10
[Epic 4G General] lost_:
Galaxy Victory

Galaxy Victory - http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...e-midrange-samsung-galaxy-victory-oet-review/
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
It seems as if LG is the new Samsung, you know, they are making some of the best hardware but their software and support is crap, just like how Samsung was 2 years ago with the first Galaxy S before they were popular...

Wow, I just had a major nostalgia moment. I remember how HTC was the big player and got all the developer support and Samsung was the underdog. Now that I think about it, there seems to be a pattern going on. Google made the first Nexus with HTC and they became popular afterwards. Then Google made 2 Nexus devices with Samsung and now they are selling more phones than Apple. Note that both of these corporations weren't weren't doing so well in Smartphones before the Nexus phones. Now Google is rumored to making the next Nexus phone with LG. Can't wait to see how that pans out.

http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-nexus-could-be-googles-next-smartphone-20120919/

Also if this rumor is true, then I will be very excited :D. I just hope that Google keeps the design similar to their previous Nexus phones. The Galaxy Nexus looks sexy as hell.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
I still want it!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeP2d6YuGlc
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Damn 7000 in quadrant. On stock, that actually means a little.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
I just ordered a Galaxy Nexus, almost got the S3 but ill just pray the Nexus holds me over for now and the next 2 years lol.
[Epic 4G General] bryanfritz1:
I loved my epic, but so far the photon q 4g, is whooping it up and its stock. I wasn't sure about going to a moto phone after some of the things I've read, but its really just an updated slightly different epic. Screens about the same viewable, but a bit higher res. Keyboard is different layout but I think better once accustomed to it. Way way faster processor(4500 quadrant stock no root) with it looks like room to oc(some basic stuff has been done up to 1.89ghz). Memory is only 8gb internal but has a sd slot( easier to access than the epics). Battery is non removable yes, however its no issue as I have yet to have to charge it but at night( most I've seen so far was 15+ hours on time, 3 hours 15 minutes on screen time and 23% left ymmv). I'm sure with custom roms it will get better. Radio reception is much improved, and I am not in an lte area, so no nv. Camera is a slight upgrade from the epic and it does have a camera button( no two stage focus and shoot yet, I'm being hopeful) faster focus. Video is 1080p with on the fly focus and image capture while shooting video. That one makes me happy with a 5 year old son. Keyboard backlight is adjustable, has a tab, ok, dpad and sym button. Hdmi out. Anyways just wanted to post in here with this run down for those of you whoose epic wasn't quite cutting the cake but wasn't sure about the photon q. I give it 8 out of 10 after 2 weeks. Last note, make sure and handle one at the store, they have a unique feel to them and some folks might find them comfortable in their hands, were as my wife has held it three times and dropped it each time because of the way edges are. Hope it helps.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
Man, I'm getting an itch for the Photon Q. I hope sammy announces a slider before Christmas, otherwise I'm going to have a hard time not buying the moto.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
According to recent rumors, the Nexus 5 will be by HTC and will be like the One X 5/Droid Incredible X with a 2500mah battery, 5" 1080p screen, quad core s4 pro, LTE (obviously), and likely 1.5-2gb ram. I would imagine no removable SD Card support (Google's not a huge fan), but removable battery support may be a possibility.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Found a very old news post, but sounds very likely for the release of the five nexus devices. It's the fifth anniversary of Android on Nov 5, so Google is rumored to release 5 devices to commemorate:

http://www.techknowguide.com/google...cessful-completion-of-android-five-years.html
[Epic 4G General] toolegit:
Not a huge fan of Moto, but the more I look at that phone the more I like it.

Glad I have time before I can get a phone, so I can research it. My last three phones have been sliders, and the PK is why I bought the Epic.... but I haven't been impressed with the Epic's keyboard. I swore that I would not make the PK a deciding factor on my next phone... sigh.....
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
My friend sent me a pic of his new iPhone Lte, on Att network..

Right now I'm paying $240 for 5 lines.

Att 5 lines @ 3gb data 700 min $270

Verizon 5 lines @ 2gb data 900 min $300
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Friends don't let friends buy iPhone 5's.

Lol.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Friends don't let friends have limited data either.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
That's pretty awesome speeds though. I'm sure ATT has plenty of LTE phones though.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
3 gigs of data for 5 lines in a month? Yeah, good luck with that bill staying under $330 or so. I chew through 3 gigs of data in about 2 weeks.

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[Epic 4G General] lost_:
Unless you're reselling it for profit.

If only the SIM on the Photon Q 4G LTE was removable, I would've upgraded to it. The teardown shows it's impossible. Here's a good Epic vs PQ thread.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Exactly. We had a rep with a 4s leave the company and a new rep come in and needed a new line. Ordered the 5 on the new line and am giving him the 4s so I can sell the 5 and make some cash. The perks of managing the account for work.

It was the non removable battery for me. I work in some signal challenged areas where wifi isn't an option and I need to stay connected. So my battery on the Q would die before noon. Had to return it.
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
I am worried about the rumored 5 nexus devices. I do not want Google to prioritize one device over the other and I do not want one smart to be "more powerful" than the other unless it is meant to be a budget phone. All in all, I hope that if this is true, the specs won't vary to much from one to the other.

I am praying that whatever Nexus phone comes to Sprint, it will have a great display and camera, that is all i really care about in the spec department at this point. Oh and also a good radio, I love my epic but the signal can be garbage sometimes.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I would bet that this time, the manufacturer will handle most everything about the hardware (in the past, Google has made the designs and certain decisions like no SD Cards), and the manufacturer would just build it, and Google will take care of the software as always. So HTC's would likely be a One X 1.8 (between the One X and its successor in terms of specs) but with AOSP.
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
I would be extremely disappointed if that is the case. I love the design of the Galaxy Nexus. Maybe one of the 5 phones will be a phone in which Google has an input in hardware design and choice. In which case, it will be a win, win for everybody.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I doubt they will design all five, but maybe. I would love a quad core s4 2gb ram 1080p One X (which is said to be coming in Sense and AOSP flavors). HTC isn't very developer friendly from what I understand, but if they make a Nexus, it would have to be. A developer friendly, decently built (not cheap plastic) phone with top of the line specs and AOSP sounds perfect to me. Heck, with those specs, I would buy it even with Sense.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I would just hope of five phones, one is a proper premium slider. Five more slates on top of the mfg specific slates out there would just be a load of crap. Would like to see:

3 slates- 5+" (HD+), 4+" (HD) & 3+"(qHD)

2 sliders- landscape (4.3" HD)and portrait (4 or 4.3" HE venue pro style)

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[Epic 4G General] toolegit:
I don't *not* like Sense, I'm just used to Touchwiz and AOKP. My wife has an Evo Shift, and I have an Evo 3D that I use as a wifi-only device. The Sense is okay, just not what I'm used to using. If HTC did get the next Nexus build, I would definitely check it out.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Doesn't tossing on a replacement launcher negate most of the overlays anyway? Heck, you can't even use the widgets.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
That's just the home screen. And why buy a phone, just to have to install a ton of apps to replace the stock ones? That's wasting space.

Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Because the stock launchers are extremely limited for one. And outside of the launcher and widgets, none of the mfg's apps have been one I used on a sort of normal basis. Could really care less how they skin contacts and such. The dialer is the only thing I really care about, and samsung's is the worst. Most keypresses to dial a number out of all the android phones I've ever owned.

Are you serious about installing apps? Since when does anyone around here waste space. We root and run custom roms that delete bloat and are able to delete system apps. there is no wasted space. And I don't know of one mfg based app that works better than a 3rd party one out of the store. If there is, I haven't found one yet.
[Epic 4G General] toolegit:
Personally, I root because I can't stand not having control over a device. I may not *need* to delete system apps, but I want to ability to do so when I desire. That's why I rooted at first. On my Moment, I was quite happy to get ride of the crapbloatware installed with it. Then I found the custom ROMs...

My next phone the biggest selling point will be how easy it is to root, and secondary how much custom ROM support there is. Took me ten months to root my Moment (I was pretty leary of breaking it at first), and I didn't root my Epic until I needed to for work, but I know with my next phone I'm bringing it home and rooting it immediately.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
The Photon 4G isn't being g upgraded to ICS or JB. Another great reason not to pick up the Photon Q

http://www.phonedog.com/2012/09/29/...on-4g-won-t-be-updated-to-ice-cream-sandwich/
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
That's BS. The Photon is my traveling phone. Now even if I wanted to sell it, it's lost more value. WTF? I just might have to get a used Galaxy Nexus and load up webOS when they finalize the port, and say FU to android and Moto. Glad I returned my Q. Though I don't know one company that doesn't piss me off.

Was fat and happy with Samsung, but I have the 8.9 tab, and I picked up the BT keyboard case. That nice full size chicklet keyboard they show in the pictures should've made for a sweet combo. But Sammy doesn't tell you those are pictures for the 10.1 tab and case, and there are ZERO pictures of the actual 8.9 one anywhere on the net. So when you open it up you see this miniscule standard keyboard that belongs on a 3yr old 7" netbook that gives touch typists fits. And after an hour on the phone with them, see nothing wrong with the false advertising of the product and even lied to me saying the pictures are of the 8.9 and that I probably received a knockoff product. And then they send me a 50% off accessory coupon to try and make up for the rude behavior, lying and false advertising.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
Ummm the Photon q I used at the Sprint store had 4.0.4 on it.

Edit: Gah! That's the photon, not the photon q. Sorry I misread.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I think it's a principle thing. The phone is a year old and it's not being upgraded. Goes against the whole purpose of the OHA, and at this stage of the android game it's just BS. No need to purchase their newer products and justify their actions. Who knows if the Photon Q would receive an update beyond JB next year then.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Gnex has a webos port?
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/28/3425382/open-webos-galaxy-nexus-port

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[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
I still miss WebOS at times...
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Yep. Still have the POS Pre. Use it in wifi to stream slacker and pandora.

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[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
That's awesome. If they release it before I get rid of my Epic in January, I will try to get it at least booting. Not sure how I would do that without seeing an example first though since their build system appears quite different from android and there are no example/existing device repositories that I can find.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Its not Motorola's fault. Its the specific model of processor that was used(I think its a form of Tegra 2). It isn't compatible with ICS. Again, its a specific model of the processor.

Posted by Mr. Z's HP Touchpad.
[Epic 4G General] jworkcoo:
Trying to hold out till the next Nexus but this deal may get me (If its true)
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
More fuel for my photon q decision:

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-motorola-photon-q-review

I'm not sure how much longer I can resist. Come on Samsung, give us another option!
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
LG Nexus seems to be my choice so far (specs are similar if not exactly like LG Optimus G)

It features new battery tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK0tCdkUMnQ

Hands on with the Optimus G: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IUaHKxsfQI
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Fixed battery and fixed storage on the LG if the rumors and prelim info is true.

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Sorry, but that sounds like a bunch of BS considering CM9 works on it.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
What do you guys think about sg3 mini. Same specs as s3 but with 4" screen
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
What? Its absolutely nothing like the gs3 lol it has a samoled 4 inch 800x480 screen (same as our phones) a dual core 1ghz processor (neither an Exynos nor S4), 5mp camera
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
The S3 Mini should wear the Ace moniker. Calling it an S3 degrades the line and says FU to their customers. You only get premium specs if you get the jumbo screen.

Just when I thought Sammy was getting it. People talk about choice on android compared to apple. Well it's not choice when they make dumb decisions like that. Call it an Ace or Galaxy Mini and don't try to play the customers for a fool off the the S3 name. Sorry. Bad marketing annoys me.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
All I want is:

- killer camera

- 4.8ish screen

- removable battery

- removable storage

- NEXUS

S3 almost fits the bill, but I'm curious to see what we have in the pipeline. Not sure if the manufacturers will ever hardware-trump their existing Premium phones with a NEXUS device, but we'll see.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I would never buy a slate, but I'm using the S3 at the moment, and outside of not having a keyboard, it's just about perfect. I'm not sure what there is not to like about it.

And one handed anything is simple if you pick up one of the cases with he hinged slide out stand. Just slide your middle or ring finger inside and the middle orbindex finger above and you can hold it comfortably so More of your hand is above the phone allowing your thumb to easily reach well beyond the opposite edge of the phone. And the cases are cheap and usually include the slide in style belt clip holster.

And I lied. I will buy the Note 2 as I'll get to relive my Palm graffiti days. I could graffiti like a machine and would imagine the writing recognition software is pretty good these days.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Note 2 is definitely my choice...
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
And the Gnex was only marginally better than the S2. Come on Sammy!
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
That is completely opinion

And I'm gonna jump to the gs3 probably but if Sammy screws the us variants too badly I'm gonna have to look else where
[Epic 4G General] Frostacious:
Is motorola coming out with anything that might be worth looking into? Ever since google took ownership I wouldn't be surprised they come out with something more impressive than motos last phone. I could see a 4th quarter phone coming out with lte but what puts it ontop is it comes with android 5.0
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Really cuz the last I checked the next update to jellybean is a small update and will be 4.1 not 5.0.... but I know what you meant... ;)
[Epic 4G General] Frostacious:
Your awesome and thanks for clearing that up for me. But is there another phone other than gsiii, evo lte?
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
I picked up a really nice photon to replace my epic I sold to my cousin. Its really good considering our devs have had 10 months to work on it. Got it off cow boom for $160

I doubt I will ever see LTE in my area until 2013
[Epic 4G General] Valorous17:
Ill be waiting for the next nexus. I dont care if it is only slightly better than the GS3. It will most likely have a Super AMOLED+ hd display and really, any quad core processor will do.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Samoled HD plus apparently have bad life so the screen won't last you
[Epic 4G General] incisivekeith:
Upgraded to the galaxy note international version. :)
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I am going to retitle this thread. Let's keep all new phone discussions and rumors and why you are choosing your next phone in this thread. I will lock the other threads and direct them here to help clean up General.

Thanks for your cooperation

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[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
nvm
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
i posted earlier i was waiting for gs3, but now i know the note will be coming to sprint, i will have to think long and hard on this one lol. a co-worker had the note i got to play with it before she sold it and was kind of impressed with it.
[Epic 4G General] kidrobot52:
Hello Samsung family. Lol. Coming form Motorola defy on tmobile. Bout to switch to a diff company was thinking about sprint and getting the og epic 4g. ( basically I miss a keyboard) so my question to u guys.

Worth it?

If not which phone should I look into?

How crappy is sprint in NYC area?

How solid Is the epic built

Def not looking into the sg3. N I feel the whole evo family are humongous.

As for thread question. Contract ends in June so either epic 4g (as I really don't care for lte speeds mostly used on wifi n keyboard)

Gnex (but looks to me from reading this thread probably not worth it.)

Any suggestions? Thanks.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
It all depends build quality is great and my phone has dropped several times no problems at all even dropped it on cement and brick have a tiny dent that's all.

Go 2 sprint and play with them but stock versus stock is hard to choose if you have this phone rooted etc... you'll see its still a comparable phone to buy. But Gnex will continue to have support as a pure google phone. I'm sure someone else will give some insight too.
[Epic 4G General] kidrobot52:
Thnx for the quick repley. Yea I'm looking for something ruggedish. My defy has fallen from 30ft while I was spinning and swinging and just ended up with a couple scratches. Not saying ima put my phone threw that again but in my line of work I need a ruggedish phone. Been to sprint yesterday. Played with epic 4g, epic 4g touch (which is very nice just lacks keyboard) gnex which is also nice just didn't feel to firm. And the evo serious nd I'm still deciding there to big for no reason.

Why is it people want bigger screens and less battery life? Don't get that. Most batt I got out my defy was 3 days 4 hrs and 26 mins.:eek::eek::eek::D:D:D:D:D:D:D;););););)
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Holy **** what were you doing to get 3 days? And the phones actually get good battery life even though its big even un rooted actually.
[Epic 4G General] tabormeister:
Good News, Everyone!

Caption up for debate :D
[Epic 4G General] matrixzone5:
I think it should be "Zuuuuuuuuuhh????"
[Epic 4G General] kidrobot52:
It was a rom I was using I think miui when it first came out and had really good batt life.

Im thinking more on the epic 4g what's the best rom for it. Need speed stability and don't wanna lose whatever 4g or lte.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
We don't ask that here because they are all good.
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
Well I am 48 days away and keeping a eye out for the new nexus. Wonder if sammy will add external sd card if it does not sure I could pass it up. If no sd card it is a easy choice GS3 here I come. All I want is a killer camera and good specs with external card. A keyboard would be a bonus. And NO I don't like the photon.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
wasn't a fan of the photon either. this is 2012. Premium phones that have a premium price and are 4.3" should have an HD screen. And the embedded battery thing is a deal breaker. The chinese have made a bluetooth sliding keyboard case for the S3. It doesn't look that great, but it's a start. Need a real company to step up and make one in the absence of any premium sliders on the market. It's just as bad as making a phone labeled as an S3 and giving it the same specs and more anemic battery than the already launched midgrade Victory that seems to sport a real battery and not one from 2009. Man I wonder what these marketing and product development people think sometimes.
[Epic 4G General] BloatedDuck404:
I will be getting the HTC ONE X + on AT&T I'm leaving sprint love ya but hate your speed except LTE but I'm ready for a data cap. Unfortunately I gotta wait till June 1st 2013.

Sent from your phone.....turn around.....
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
If you hate it that much, etf, or do some excessive roaming to make them cancel you.
[Epic 4G General] acegolfer:
I'm between note2 and new gsm nexus phone w/ $30 tmo plan. Hate to give up the sero though.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
By then they'll probably have their network vision upgrade done, and your speeds will be just fine.