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[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
@DCRocks

Get the Sgs3 bro you have no clue how fast you'll forget that keyboard. Ill admit its tough but the pluses out weigh the cons here... its a no brainer. As for the side note. I think so... the EVO is valued 10$+ than the epic... according to sprint. I could get 70 for my used evo but only 60 for my epic when I looked it up. Sad but true even though the evo is old its obviously the more wanted phone.
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
Even though it's worse in every way.

Especially rooting and beyond. AOKP on Epic? Awesome. AOKP on EVO? Terrible.

The phone is slower with everything. Though it has more RAM technically.
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
I agree, but its amazing how much Sense-based development is still going on for the OG Evo. I upgraded my son's OG Evo this weekend, and there is a plethora of new ROMS over there, even though the phone turned 2 yesterday! Sprint must've sold a billion of those.
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
Indeed. Back when I switched to Sprint, Verizon was ripping me off. Dumb phones only too.

Now mapped out it would be $30 dollars cheaper with two LTE phones 10GB of data(that's how bad I'm being ripped off)

And yes, T-Mobile does have LTE AND they have decent coverage over here in Minnesnowta. I'd be saving $70 dollars over Sprint by switching to them.
[Epic 4G General] drot84:
has anyone tried the Motorola Droid 4? I really don't want to switch to VZ b/c of the cost but am considering it to keep a good keyboard
[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
Good point................at this phase in wireless technology, change should include an exponential leap forward, expressive-making is part of that leap.

.........sent from today's android = 4.0.4
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
The gs3 nexus
[Epic 4G General] elroyknight:
I wont be able to upgrade until october so my next phone doesn't exist yet. hopefully by then the galaxy s3, my number 1 choice, will have made it to us carriers. my number 2 choice would be the next nexus device (which should be out around that time). my number 3 choice would be the iphone 5, but let's hope android blows away the competition as usual cause id rather not go that route.

i may not stay with sprint, but this answer should be good for every carrier.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Gtfo... iphone5??? IDiot... iOS blows
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
Screen size/quality and lack of a number row make me go meh. Plus locked bootloaders suck.

Hopefully the droid 5 has specs comparable to the gs3 though and if time has told us anything about motorola we can probably expect it this summer.

I just want the Gnote if a gs3 slider is too much to ask for from sprint.

Sent from my Nexus Slide 4G
[Epic 4G General] :
Damn people can't buy whatever he/she wants anymore?
[Epic 4G General] drot84:
I just hate the fact the sliders seem to be disappearing. Of course, sometimes I still miss the keyboard I had on my Treos! Ha!
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
God no... least not an iphone :p
[Epic 4G General] redrazr7791:
That's why the iPhone has it's own forum. If you were around when all that went down, you would know why it's not...mentioned here....

My next phone will be...whoever impresses me with either a 4.7" screen or smaller.
[Epic 4G General] :
It doesn't matter if it's an iphone, there's nothing wrong with owning an iphone. The phone is not to blame, the person owning it is. The same can be said for some of the arrogant android users, which make people who own phones such as iphones think android users children.
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
*facepalm*

I misread it. I hate when people call HSPA+ 4G.

That's such crap. Then again, I don't think WiMax should be 4G either.

Oh well. Now I'm extra conflicted.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Unless you are actually choosing an iphone as your next phone let's leave it out of this thread. IOS vs Android has been beaten to death, zombified, head chopped off, necromanced, and raped. Thanks. I will try to clean it up.
[Epic 4G General] v8bait:
Upgrade in June and I really like the Evo LTE, it has a killer camera (f/2 aperture ftw), but it's big like the epic touch and the battery isn't removable so I'm hesitant. The gnex is just a touch older than I would like to commit to for two years, it has a camera not much better than our og epic, pentile display and no removable SD card.

I'm hoping the sgs3 will not have any of these drawbacks and will be available quickly, if not the Evo LTE will be my top choice. With all these giaganto phones I may be forced into breaking down, picking up an ipod nano, and dieing a little on the inside.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
The galaxy nexus screen is probably about 4.3 without the on screen buttons so that is most likely not much bigger than the evo.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Its giant compared to the evo... if you mean the og evo but its the same size as the newest one series.. the screen is 4.65in doubt .35 is dedicated to the keys... less so its probably a 4.5 in reality.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Its about a half inch longer, about the same width, and thinner.
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
The GS3 looks very promising and what I really love about its the on screen buttoms, I always always thought that was an unnecessary thing to have when it could nicely be integrated on the screen. When the nexus came out I thought all companies were going to do that but it sure didn't follow BUT thank you Samsung for doing. IMHO that's the best way to go, everything should be screen on the front and of course have some room for the camera, lights and speaker on the top. The only thing that I'm wondering is......when will sprint bring it to the US?? Could it be that sprint is already working on making a cdma version?
[Epic 4G General] tigerknight:
The problem with sliders is that to have a physical keyboard and not make the phone a brick, you have to chop down the battery size (among other modifications) to the chassis.

It's why the Evo kicked my Epic's ass on battery life when I was originally comparing them to choose from, but the physical keyboard was far more useful and important in my line of work. I ended up getting a 3200mAh battery and can go about 2-3 days without charging if I want to push it, plus the extra phone thickness is nice in my hands, so I'm cool with the bulk.

The Note is large enough already to fit my hands well when I scoped it out at an AT&T store, plus the good resolution means the on-screen keyboard isn't too invasive to other work going on, and couple that with the Hacker's Keyboard app, and you've got something at least slightly comparable to having a physical one.

If there was something with a larger AND denser screen than the Epic, and it had the same keyboard (dedicated numbers FTW), I'd probably go with that instead of the Note.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Everyone keeps saying that, but I am still on the fence.

Trying to use the on screen KB on the ET4g was not something I liked nearly as much as the HW KB on my Epic, so I am unsure how much better it could be on the SGS3....

Still, it seems as if I just wont have a choice if I want to stay on sprint, and upgrade my phone... sigh...
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
If any of you have friends or family that are thinking about migrating to (or starting out with) an iPhone, here's an interesting one on CNET:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ature-that-trumps-the-iphone/?tag=epicStories

I always enjoy reading tidbits about how Android beats Apple.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
What I meant is the on screen keyboard grows on you... relatively fast although I still miss it to this day. I'm just saying don't wait until the apocalypse to upgrade because nothing good with a keyboard is out. :D
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
I never use my keyboard even now.

SwiftKey 3 is outstanding. Hell the stock ICS one is great too.
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
Perfect for the apocalypse!

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Yah, kinda coming to realize that, thinking I may upgrade the GF to the SGS3 and check it out for a bit, then see if I can live with the lack of HW KB

I

REALLY

want the camera upgrade, and if the camera on the SGS3 is all its hyped to be, it may force me to give up the HW KB no matter how much I love it.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
A 3rd party website that I googled for used phone values showed the epic worth more than the EVO. And yes only having on screen kb isn't that bad. The camera on the EVO LTE is hard to get a nice clear pic. So I wouldn't recommend it.
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
I thought about the Nexus but a lack of an sd card has turned me off. How else could I store all my roms and nandroids?

By the way just went into Crapbuy today and pre ordered the gs3 for my wife. She's on the evo right now and the samsung dev community just kicks so much ass I had to get her on a samsung. The roms for her evo just really are not that good. I myself don't have an upgrade until March :-(
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
LoL its has a built in sdcard 32 gig just not removable.

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
Does it? I thought the internal memory on it was just where everything was stored so if you wiped data you lost everything. I had the first iphone and that's how it was set up. Oh well thanks for the info. 32 gigs is plenty for me so its back on the reconsideration list.
[Epic 4G General] Magic Oreo:
is the sgIII worth the upgrade? I have my upgrade and i could preorder it right now if i wanted.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Yep well actually 28 is actually usable the other is partitioned for system i guess... i have barely put a dent in it with my synced music from rdio 658 songs.... 3.3gbs and i still have a crap ton free that doesnt even include my nandroids and ROM's i've downloaded... or anything else.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Which makes it dangerous to get your data off of in case of phone failure. And sd card can be pulled out and popped into your replacement phone.
[Epic 4G General] Magic Oreo:
according to sprint.com, it has 16/32 internal + a 32 sdcard
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
It's a Google phone Kenny its all on the cloud.

The only time the sd card is wiped clean is if you lock the bootloader. Which is great in case you have to take it in to sprint. Just lock the bootloader everything is wiped and no trace of root.

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
That's the gs3 not the nexus.
[Epic 4G General] smark72:
It will not come with an sd card. Check the bottom of the page where it says what's included in box. The memory section of the spec list is worded incorrectly.
[Epic 4G General] Magic Oreo:
sorry, didn't realize which device you were chatting about.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
The new iPhone 5 has nav bar keys :D

Trolololo
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
So naked pictures of my girlfriend end up on Google cloud? No thanks...sd card for me!
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
knowing you, they will end up on the net anyway, amirite? lol
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Wtf those almost look like the nav keys on your galaxy nexus. I hope they get sued.
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
^ LMAO

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Wow.... that's all I will say...
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
Its about time!! Apple needed to get sued a long time ago :)
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
I just can't believe all the suing they have been doing because android is a stolen idea and they turn around with this blatant theft. What bs this is the hipocracy that is wrong with everything.
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
ROTFLMAO....

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
ROTFFLMASOSHINEF!

They gripe At Google yet the steal our ideas 1st always has and always will they need to be sued and die in an ultimate obliteration of an apocalypse that houses Android Phone's idk got bored after the whole sue thing.
[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
the media report from earlier today suggests that Judge Koh's decision forces Apple to initiate their legal claim against the sgs3 from scratch, not allowing them to piggy-back off the case against the gnex that was already on the books.............can't imagine Apple blocking the sgs3 launch a mere nine days from now :p:cool::D ha!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/12/us-apple-google-lawsuits-idUSBRE85B1L920120612
[Epic 4G General] KillerFu:
This

http://clamcase.com/clambook-android-and-iphone-laptop-dock.html

Plus this

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Eclipse-4G-LTE_id7100

Plus this

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android

Equal one happy person!
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
What about that LG eclipse interests you? It looks like they have the specs wrong cuz the s4 is a dual core not quad. They listed the resolution of the screen wrong.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
The s4 is a tier of processors, not a single one. There could be a single core one possibly. Like the 8960 is different than the 8960 pro, which I think this one is supposed to have.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I thought LTE wasn't possible on the quads yet.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Its not that quad core in general does not support lte, its that the quad core processors on the market do not. But if qualcomm would've used a quadcore a9 processor (too early for quad a15), in the evo lte for example, it still would've been compatible with lte. Apparently qualcomm is withholding the technology that let's them integrate it into their processors, so its cheaper and better for manufacturers to use s4 which includes the radio rather than say exynos, which you'll have to pair an lte and cdma radio with.

Sometime in q3 or q4 (or maybe its early next year), nVidia will supposedly have an LTE tegra 3.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
So the LG coming out in Q4 can't have a quad core s4 and LTE then, right? It will end up like the GS3 and LTE versions will have dual core.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
That is why I said they messed up the specs originally. Also I think we can agree that rumored specs are a waste of time.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
LTE will work on quads. It probably was withheld from the GS3 because they could fit the chip in the phone, or due to battery concerns.

Qualcomm has not released their combination LTE/CDMA/GSM chip set until a month ago. Other vendors like infineon and samsung do not have combination GSM/LTE chip sets yet. Only qualcomm makes cdma chips.

The gnexus uses separate chips for cdma/GSM and an infineon lte chip which sucks down battery.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Just my opinion, but I'd stay away from LG anything no matter what the specs are. LG sells people on the spec sheet even though it's low quality crap. Every LG product I've come in contact with from cell phones to refrigerators through family and friends have all turned into expensive turds. The only thing that hasn't yet is my parent's flat screen, but give it time as they've had it less than a year.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
Incorrect.

The qualcomm quadcore is out NOW. Manufacturers are probably building phones with it for winter launch as we speak.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
The more I hear and read about quad core processors, the less I care about it in my phone.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Here is the question though. Why stay with sprint on a 60 dollar a month plan with the hope of lte in the future instead of moving over to T-Mobile for 30 dollars a month for their prepaid 100 minute unlimited text and data prepaid plan and using voip calling? T-Mobile has MUCH faster data right now and has the benefit of sim cards. What reason would there be to stick with sprint for twice as much per month and being locked into a two year contract instead of month to month?
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
The $30 plan is capped data. The TOS says something low like 200mb. The 2gb was promotional.

And the Walmart plan doesn't use t mobiles third party network. Their native coverage is even worse than sprints.

If you've learned anything from Verizon, after lte is rolled out on sprint, unlimited data will disappear. I'll cling onto this plan for now.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Ok so that would explain the LG predicted launch near December. Thanks.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Maybe I'm just wishful thinking or being naive, but I honestly don't think Sprint is going to ditch the unlimited data plans. If they do that, they're seriously doomed. That is the only thing, I believe, that is keeping most people around. Is it because they use so much data they know they're saving money? I honestly don't think so, I think it's more because people don't want to have to worry about it. They don't want to end up with a massive bill at the end of the month they're not expecting.

I would venture a guess the vast majority of people could get by with a 2GB data plan for a phone. We here at XDA are not the vast majority, so I don't want people saying "well I used 15GB this month alone!!!"

It really comes down to people having more peace of mind their bill isn't going to be $50-100 more expensive than they were expecting it to be.

If Sprint ditches their unlimilted data plan, most people will jump ship. Network Vision would have to be bulletproof for people to stick with it, because Sprint's coverage is pretty subpar if you ask me.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
my wife and her sister are on this plan with me. im not even kidding when i say that the use almost 6000 minutes a month between the two of them. "any mobile any time" saves my ass on a regular basis. that is why i cant go to a pre paid 100 min plan.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I think what he was saying was there are apps out there when in connection with Google Voice, you can do voip calling, so you won't be using any of your plan minutes, regardless of when you're talking.

I think this was a big reason VZW tries to say how they're saving you money by giving you 'unlimited minutes' in their new shared plans. They're obviously well aware of this fact, even though the general population wouldn't be.

They're trying to get a head of the game since most people would do exactly what the other guy was saying...go with the fewest minutes you have, set it up so your calling is done via voip and you'd be all set.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
im sure id have terrible luck getting these girls to use some kind of app other than "phone". they still dial 411 to look up nail salons and **** even though they have a google search bar right there on their home screen.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And doesn't voip calling use up your data? Isn't that more expensive than the unlimited minutes if you go over on the data?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And I have been trying to use the stupid onscreen keyboard on the Pantech work phone and it suuuuu-uuuuuckkkkkkks! There is an error every other word. I may just stay with the Epic until a high end slider comes out maybe in the next wave of phones in November.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Haha, I can relate. Although I think once you set it up for them, they wouldn't even know there was a difference. Plus, it does integrate with your native dialer.

It does use data, right around 1.2MB/min from what I gather. I guess the same double edged sword comes into play around this as with anything related to data caps...where does wifi fit into this?

Swiftkey X FTW...4EVR.

I can't believe I actually typed that, but it's still true.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I am guessing at 6000 minutes those girls of Austin's would destroy a 5GB data cap. Wifi would not use any data on the cell plan.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Oh no, I'm aware that wifi doesn't use cell data, but it always gets brought up in any data cap discussion, so I was saying this probably wouldn't be much different in a discussion regarding voip minutes.

And I just realized something...6000 minutes would mean they're on the phone for 3.5 hours a day on average. That's almost unbelieveable.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
my wife is the last line listed, her sister is the second. 4500 between them just this month.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Women be talking...
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
and men be streamin porn. you see them 8 gigs there on 1 line?
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Outstanding!
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
nah. just kidding. id take the anonymous internet credit, but it wasnt me. i use a pesky 1 gig. im the top line. the other is my bff, he plays elder scrolls online at work and only has a phone to get internet. haha.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
I don't think I even come close to a gig. per month. I should start putting that unlimited to use since my speeds are above par here.
[Epic 4G General] stevie13.xo:
Anyone preorder the gs3 yet?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
A few people have :)

i know ecooce, ksmullins88, and a couple others have at least.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
I would have, but I still have to wait a week before my contract expires. I'm assuming most are in the same situation.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Me me! I have to wait too..

And i cant wait.. i will buy one asap after im eligible lol
[Epic 4G General] KillerFu:
Yeah, but this would make my life a lot easier on stuff I have to carry for work. I do a lot of site visits for my job so I would love to have my phone and laptop in one. The laptop dock is hopefully light weight and having the use of my phones internet instead of tracking down the WiFi password is a bonus.

Quad core, 2 gigs of ram, adreno 320 performance and a huge screen are all great things. My girlfriend has an LG Optimus T with ICS on it and it is a great little phone that was easy to root and put custom roms on it. Huge community as well.

I don't see a reason not to get it.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
I pre ordered at BB a couple days ago. First time I ever pre ordered a phone.
[Epic 4G General] stevie13.xo:
How's the original price of it the same as this phone..?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
They are $199 with 16GB and $249 for 32GB version.
[Epic 4G General] Ragnar:
32GB Galaxy Nexus, I got it for 70.00 plus taxes deal of the year!!! Can't beat that!

Sent from a phone...
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
It sure was! I registered my number with Best Buy so automatically get a $50 gift card with upgrade on both my lines.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Best buy is great. I should walk out with the gs3 for $150 I believe. Because I'm just returning this EVO LTE which I only paid $150 after $50 gift card so that's pretty awesome.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I'm just ordering through sprint lol. Dunno if I'm doing it online or store yet though.

~E.R.A.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Same here... the best buy near me is ridiculous.... I will never step foot in that store... now to figure out if I want the gs3 or just wait and pray for a non-lg slider...
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Id take an htc slider if it were pretty boss.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Y'all still waiting on that Great Pumpkin slider eh? The KB on my Epic is so fresh and springy from lack of use.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Yeah after playing with my wifes og evo for a while I actualy kinda like htc... except the bootloader crap..
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Me as well

My upgrade is available on July 1st

Damn u sprint removing the early upgrades

I wonder how many years it will take to get the white 32 gb back in stock

Even the pre orders are sold out
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
I just hope they have the white 16 gb (or 32) model in stock by July 1.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
ive been sitting on an upgrade for over a year.
[Epic 4G General] Jbluna:
Getting me the GS3 soon :D How long is the usual " before anyone else gets a glimpse" time frame for pre orders? a guy at my local sprint store said they're expecting the phone by the end of the month
[Epic 4G General] sonarchist:
Been sitting on an upgrade since september (2011).........it's SGS3, hopefully next week, + this solid faithful Epic on 2nd line (til january, then possibly a nexus or physical kb device, all depends what gets released in november.)

sent from today's Android 4.0.4