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[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I know exactly what it means. Not like I just joined this site.

But if the phone itself is crippled and doesn't fit one's needs, then an unlocked bootloader isn't magically going to fix the design flaws. This is supposed to be an upgrade, and the Moto has taken steps backwards in many respects. I'd almost rather just stick with the Epic for another two years (since that seems to be the slider upgrade cycle), do what I have to do on it and use a tablet for the rest. I rely on my phone 24/7 for work. I can't afford to have a dead phone or to be tethered to a charger. Walking around with a battery pack plugged into your phone? Having to buy a 2nd phone for traveling yet again? I bought a Photon for overseas travel and figured I'd just deal with typing on screen.

Sorry, was a bit excited about this phone, and now I'm just annoyed at the compromises in it.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
Yeah, you know, it's like everything else. Not every phone is going to have everything I need. But, for me and the very little amount of international travel I do, I think I'm going to get one of these just to compare it to the epic. I'm probably most concerned about not being able to pull the battery. I don't swap batteries ever, but when my phone has locked up, it has required a battery pull on occasion. Hopefully, it will be possible to open it up without too much hassle.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Some things just annoy me on principal. Sprint has gotten more expensive and more restrictive with its policies since the iphone. Now they want to milk you when you travel. Granted it's once or twice for me, but...

The battery for me is the biggest deal. I swap batteries all the time. The qHD is an annoyance. I just feel like they cheaped out. If this is pretty much an Atrix HD, then why skimp on the screen? And I'm sure it'll still be $200 if not more even with the anemic battery and mediocre screen res bump. Two knocks on it being premium. The incremental screen res is actually annoying. Most of it is accounted for in the extra .3" of real estate. Then when you add in the buttons being onscreen you really negate more of the real estate. I want more info on my screen. The Photon was already 4.3" qHD so isn't it a step backwards with the soft buttons on the screen taking up that extra real estate? Doesn't make sense to me.
[Epic 4G General] rulyskull:
I'm probably going to get the galaxy nexus in the next few days, by the way are there going to be fees on top of the 50 bucks for the phone and upgrade at radio shack? Well besides tax.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
My experience is very different after spending some time with wife's VZW S3. Great phone, super fast LTE, battery never seems to die but for the life of me I could not get used to not having the physical keyboard. Wife misses it too, having a Droid 2 Global before - but while she is getting used to the on-screen KB, I probably won't as I still hate using my OG iphone (prepaid) on-screen KB after owing it for years. At least, Verizon plans to activate the S3 world features and there is a workaround for a locked bootloader (which hopefully will be cracked soon by devs). I will probably wait until the end of the year to see whether LTE comes to NYC then and if newer sliders are in the works by either VZW or Sprint and make a decision then.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/28/...ing-at-sprint-in-october-with-4g-lte-support/
[Epic 4G General] ktron2g:
same here buddy, the note looks soo nice :)
[Epic 4G General] kennysvgp08:
Pf, I'm upgrading to wherever Marcusant is goes lol
[Epic 4G General] stevie13.xo:
I was thinking the same thing
[Epic 4G General] Vincent Vegas:
Leaning hard on the Samsung Galaxy S3, but I also like the Note. Hopefully it will come to Sprint soon.
[Epic 4G General] joemossjr:
GSIII or note most likely
[Epic 4G General] :
Is there a chance the GNote might have the S4 processor?
[Epic 4G General] Podar:
I'm with you on this one. Paying 200 bucks for a phone that won't make any better phone calls, can't access the 4g network that I can still only access when I'm in actual Fort Worth and then I won't have LTE access where I live until later next year. when I'll be eligible for another upgrade..... Just don't see upgrading right now

The only issues I have Sprintwise are network related not phone related....My Epic4G is all I need..... especially with this development forum....and the amazing developers who graciously keep us updated ....
[Epic 4G General] carm0033:
I'm pessimistic by the lack of a Note announcement at CTIA. Me thinks my choices are: wait 2-3 months and see if they announce the Note; or wait out the 9 more months on my contract, and by then if there's no announcement for a Note 2, I'm getting off this Sprint ride. Screw streaming data, the last year of Sprint service has taught me if I don't have the data already stored on my SD card, I probably don't need it that badly and it can wait until I get to a wi-fi. Having the phone you want is thus 90% of it for me, and I love my OG Epic and everything the devs here have given us, but this not having the next phone I want is starting to become BS. The Note came out internationally last fall, and I've been salivating over it since the Super Bowl commercial. Watching AT&T get it, and now T-Mobile(!) well whatever.
[Epic 4G General] xjayman:
Upgrading to the magic Jack
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Hahahahahahahaha :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Epic 4G General] akenis:
Loving my note and $45 a month with straight talk.

5 Mbps down vs Sprint .1 Mbps!!!
[Epic 4G General] mooshubob:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/11/lg-ls970-superphone/

This looks really promising - don't think I'm going to settle for the SGSIII or Evo, so I'll wait for the next generation.

CM9 will keep me happy in the meantime :)
[Epic 4G General] :
How much did you pay for your note?
[Epic 4G General] akenis:
See a couple of posts above....$499 from expansys.com.... Checked out through Amazon! Flashing official ICS later today!
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
From my personal experience, LG makes high spec'd expensive junk. Everything I've ever owned with an LG label on it has turned into a piece of ****.
[Epic 4G General] Killasmoke:
Waiting on to see this years Nexus with jellybean hopefully either quad core or dual A-15 Ti-omap or exynos 5250 cpu with Mali T-604 gpu here's to waiting 6 to 7 months to see what this thing is going to look like :thumbup:
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
If history tells us any thing the next nexus will only be a slightly improved galaxy with aosp.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Opposite happened on this time though. Gnex was good and sgsiii was only marginally better and had tw.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Its going to be gs3 with samoled+ and aosp and lte somehow mo
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
If it was a slider I'd be in.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
The ZTE Flash looks nice, but ZTE isn't typically known for great developer communities, so it would most likely not get any CM love.

Also, the OP is updated with all the Sprint phone rumors I can find and all the possible things people would most likely want to upgrade to. If you find any exciting news, let me know and I will put it in the OP.
[Epic 4G General] Zeinzu:
Just got my Galaxy Nexus at Radio Shack. No hidden fees, best choice IMO. Running pure stock AOSP 4.1.1 since I got it home. Perfectly stable, no bugs, no broken features, ridiculously smooth.

I played with the GS3 at Sprint and honestly the Galaxy Nexus on AOSP 4.1.1 is a lot smoother.

Who knows when any of these other devices will get a fully stable port or official updates. Screw that, loving my Nexus.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Ssshhhh lost soul might hear you.. quit letting out secrets.

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[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Haha whatever I'm waiting till Nov 1 anyway for upgrade and I'll have a better phone than you guys ha ha.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Please let everybody know what you get so we can all avoid it like the plague! Thanks!
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Sgsiii has far superior hardware though, so once it gets jellybean, it will blow the gnex out of the water. The evo lte should as well. I typically try to get the best hardware because software can always be changed... even the epic has jellybean, but hardware can't be changed feasibly... the epic won't ever become dual core. Eventually, non nexus phones will get official jellybean or stable builds of cm and the software gap will be gone, so then the superior hardware will win. Just my opinion though. The nexus will always have its weeks or months of exclusive official new hot oses, but after that is over, the better hardware wins.
[Epic 4G General] Zeinzu:
I haven't seen many 100% stable, fully functional AOSP builds for non-Nexus devices, and how well do carriers do on time frames of official updates? Though "almost" bug free is nice, completely functional and bug free suites me a lot better. I guess it's just personal preference.

All I know is I'm happy.
[Epic 4G General] rulyskull:
Thanks dude that definitely made my mind up right there. Hell I was looking at the threads and they have a lot of things going on over there. Still not as lovely as our beloved epic forms.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
This again? Seriously. SMH. When and IF ever you guys receive 100% stable no bugs PERIOD. Then your phone may be considered better. Maybe... but by the time that happens.... something else will be better than it. Does it really matter? YOU can't really justify what phone is best because everybody has preferences. Can we drop this now?

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[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Oh sure. You expect people to just be happy with their purchase without the need to defend it, caring about what other people are using, thinking their choice is superior? Good luck with that one. :screwy:
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
:good: THIS!! :good:

Hardware is for the life of the phone, Software can be changed.

As such, buying a Samsung device because of what "software" it has or may have, is a true iPhone way of choosing a phone.

Had I chosen my last phone this way, I would be dealing with an EVO 4G, instead of rocking my Epic :victory:
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
No... what do you think I'm doing?

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[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Ha! At least it is on topic for this thread ;)
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
FYI the Sprint GS3 has already received 3 timely updates whereas Verizon has gotten none. Looks like Sprint and Samsung are supporting this device fully and Samsung's Facebook stated Jelly Bean in 3rd quarter this year.
[Epic 4G General] rulyskull:
Yeah if I could I would get the gs3 but I have 50$ the gnex is 50, its bug free great phone. Gs3 does kill it hard were but the software isn't there and won't be for a while if it even is yet this device is 200 so I think the gnex wins in its current time.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
What makes you think the software isn't there. I've heard only good things about stock.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I am probably not going to get any of the 3 phones. They will all be too outdated by january most likely. I think they all have their strengths and weaknesses and people have to weigh those to decide which of those are most important, and after they decide that, they will decide which is best for them. Just saying my opinion. It would be nice to have both best software and hardware but right now, you have to pick which. All I was saying is you can change software but not hardware. Sure not everything will work necessarily, but for most (like me) it will be close enough. The evo lte has cm9 with nearly everything except panorama working. I don't care at all about that, so it'd be good enough for me. I haven't looked at their cm10 yet, but it'll be good enough most likely.

If that 5 nexus device rumor is true, then this year, we can probably get the best of both worlds in november or december (quad core s4 krait, hd, maybe a slider variant, decent sized screen).
[Epic 4G General] rulyskull:
Yeah I like it to but as dealing with Samsung for a while I noticed that there software likes to work off of magic
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
It seems to me that HTC aims for better looking stuff, but Samsung goes for better functioning stuff. HTC goes for the flashy sense UI and a metal build that feels better and looks better, but Samsung goes for a UI with less eye candy but more features (gimmicks to some people but nevertheless features) like S-Voice and smart stay along with a plasticky build that doesn't necessarily seem high quality, but doesn't break as much as HTC devices. At least as far as the epic vs the evo, the evo seems like a higher build quality (more premium materials) however, I've dropped my epic several times and not broken it, whereas I know several people who have broken the evo screen from short falls.
[Epic 4G General] rulyskull:
I have to disagree with you there because my HTC hero got ran over and dipped in a pool and went threw it all and lasted 2 Years almost. The thong that made get a new phone was because HTC made the first set of heros with a missing seal so the touch screens digitizer would go bad and that's what happened but other then that she was fine. Here as my epic is great and lasted a year but a week into having it I dropped it and the screen shattered completely and that's why I'm getting the gnex because I'm tired of the cracks and worrying about it. So I disagree with you there but with the HTC being flashy I agree 100% there let me tell you lol.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
The big problem there is assuming the Nexus you want will be on your carrier of choice. Do you think there will be 5 Nexus devices on all four carriers? I'm figuring a Nexus slider on Sprint will have the chances of slim to none with slim not making an appearance.

And who really cares which phone is better. Last I checked, this isn't engadget. That's where the fanboys play and bicker like children. Dude, your phone sucks. No your phone sucks...ugh.
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
So who's the insider?? Does Sammy have anything interesting coming out in Q3 or Q4 of 2012?
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Hmm I guess its just a ymmv situation. No matter what, both companies make some pretty great devices.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I haven't seen anything. I hope htc and samsung have something up their sleeves between now and my upgrade. I hope I'm not stuck with the 6 month old devices. Otherwise I would upgrade now and pay $50, but I just don't know what's gonna happen. Surprisingly LG and ZTE are having leaks but not samsung or HTC. There was that rumor earlier this year that the gs3 and gs4 would both come out this year, but that is probably not true. I hope there is a quad core krait htc or samsung to counter the lg eclipse on sprint by the end of the year.
[Epic 4G General] :
I hope Samsung announce the Gnote 2 with it's denser amoled screen that have 350ppi.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I'm going to "upgrade" to a gs3 in the next couple days mainly to see if i can get some better service in my house. Where is the cheapest place to get it from that would allow me to return it if my signal isnt any better? I'd prefer to use my local corporate sprint store since they're pretty cool, but i assume they dont do price matching and i'd have to pay a restock fee if i didn't like it.

Additionally, my update is officially due on Wednesday. Would there be any chance that the Sprint store would work with me to get it Monday or Tuesday?
[Epic 4G General] philowneus:
Oddly, my friend who first had an evo then the 3d now the lte, now is considering getting the s3 cause he doesn't like some things about the evo lte. I didn't get a chance to ask him perhaps I'll shoot him a text.
[Epic 4G General] mooshubob:
Try calling the Sprint Retensions Department, they can help you move up your upgrade if it's that close, I would think. Just say you need a phone one of those days and that's not negotiable
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Call them and ask for an Airave, which they will likely give to you for free...there's your better signal. There are no guarantees that upgrading your phone will solve the weak signal problem.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
True, but I would bet at least one would be on Sprint and I hope that there's a slider and a slab just to make everyone happy. I just don't get why there couldn't be a Galaxy S III Slide or Evo LTE Slide (the same things as the originals, but with a keyboard). Why do companies think sliders need to be watered down with qhd and inferior hardware?
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
I already have an airrave and it always craps out on me in less than a week after getting set back up.
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
Does your internet suck? I've been running mine for 2.5 years without issue.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
LOL same here - just replaced the original Airave witha 3G version, after having the OG x3 years without problems.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
I've been asking that for a while. The Epic seems like such an anomoly. It is/was the only premium slider to mirror the feature set of its slate counterpart. Everything since has been a compromise. And the Epic is the only Galaxy to not be EOL'd over two years later. The other sad thing is now a removable battery is actually a selling feature. Unless you're an Apple fanboy, who wants a non-removable battery unless the trade off is something like the Maxx which is an anomoly unto itself since every other fixed battery Moto is anemic. It makes no sense to me, even less when they tout the phone as "business class". The Q is the most locked down "business class" phone I've seen. But hey, the boot loader is unlocked.

And I don't know about you, but I won't use a slate, so a slate Nexus is meaningless to me. With the Moto and LG slider coming, I can't picture a third unless it's a Samsung Nexus Slider. The Blaze coming to T-Mob seems to be the least amount of compromise in a slider. Maybe Sammy does a Nexus Slider. Then it should come to Sprint so everyone can give an FU to Motorola.
[Epic 4G General] cujo2344:
The Photon Q is first LTE generation Qwerty on sprint is this average phone, UGH.

I was a first week Epic purchaser and my upgrade has been available for half a year and no good phones out.

I agree with the others on wondering why the manufacturers are all skimping on the keyboard phones. The Epic was the last top of the line slider. So they cheap out on the other sliders to make them cheaper counterparts? Eff that, add 50 bucks and a slider and I will gladly pay it.

I guess I will be riding the Epic until Sprint stop providing coverage.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Moto unfortunately seems to be the only company who makes highish end sliders anymore. Samsung does once in awhile, but most are midrange.
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
The Samsung Blaze coming to Tmob is a multicore, 4+ unch 720p slider... Looks like a next gen Epic.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
It just looks low quality to me. The epic looks much sleeker and more premium. Also, is it just me or does that screen not look 4" or HD? Looks like a 3.2 in WVGA to me.

Maybe its just impossible to tell from pics though: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/09/samsung-t699-may-become-galaxy-s-blaze-q-on-august-15th/

It looks a lot like this to me: http://www.ubergizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/13-Samsung-Transform-Ultra.jpg
[Epic 4G General] dbpaddler:
Sorry, but I really don't see how you get that phone over the Epic when seeing this pic. You might need to update your prescription. If anything, the top is the Epic and the bottom is a rounded Charge. And with an S4 processor and 720p screen, I don't see it being something cheap or midgrade. It'll be the only 720p slider out there. You think Sammy would go on the cheap with it, and how? Because a bad picture puts that image in your head? The supposed LG will be cheap with a 4" wvga screen. Would imagine the 720p screen would mean a 4.3" screen as well unless they are really shooting for a really high PPI. And I'm sure it'll have a nice removable battery to boot. So 720p screen with an S4 processor and removable battery. Who gives a rat's ass if it looks cheap. The epic looks cheap and it's proven to be more durable than once thought.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself I don't want it since T-Mobile is awful in my area and I would like to stay with Sprint. I guess after looking at it again, it does look just like the epic minus the hardware button. Also, I don't like the fact that Samsung displays seem to be a bit pinkish recently. In that picture and some pictures I've seen of the GSIII compared to other devices, it seems to have an ugly pink tint on white pages. The One X has a more bearable slight yellow tint and most older samsung devices with Super AMOLED had a bluish tint.
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
I think the reason they skimp on top of the line sliders is obvious, they don't sell like their slate counterparts. I am typing this on the epic keyboard as we speak but only because I have it. With a few exceptions people find the latest software keyboards to be adequate. I use FlexT9 myself. A lot of people use swiftkey. If I could upgrade now I would be all over the s3. I wanted to get an e4gt but the epic doesn't resell well enough for me to get one.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Nope, my Airrave just sucks. There's a few other places I frequent with spotty service that an Airrave wouldn't cure anyways.
[Epic 4G General] danipoak:
Yeah your internet is quite a bit better than mine. I live in student housing and they shaft us. I can get a gbit on campus. Lucky to get 10 mbps in my apartment. Barely adequate for netflix.
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
Anyone going in for the new iPhone 5???

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/iphone-5-september-release-tipped-again-50008758/

I hear it will have all the same things as the 4S, but Tim Cook says it will come with a built in car-key ring that has interchangeable colored fobs, and will carry a new lightweight compact mirror for owners to admire their smug grins when they pull out the titanium-white abomination at Starbucks...
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
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[Epic 4G General] pvtjoker42:
hmmmm.. gnex for $79.99 delivered next day from newegg.. sooo tempting..
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Do it do it do it do it do it. :D

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[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
$49.99 at http://wireflyfriends.com
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Wow almost too good to pass up... almost....
[Epic 4G General] rulyskull:
Dude do it I just got this phone today, have aokp JB and have to say its so worth it I don't see one hiccup and I loved it since I pulled it out the box.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
But the camera is subpar for the device, according to reviews i read.
[Epic 4G General] rulyskull:
Yeah its not the best, for sure. But it is better then the epic and you get for what you pay and unless you want to film a movie with your phone I think you'll be fine :D
[Epic 4G General] DrKaotica:
well the Galaxy S3 is finally available to the Sprint Advantage Club. My employee sponsor got the E-mail that its now available, and 20 minutes later my order was placed for a 32GB pebble blue.

its been a long time coming, i've had the upgrade since december, i was originally waiting for the galaxy nexus to become available, then came the S3 announcement.

The Epic was my first smartphone, and I came in shortly after release of the phone not knowing anything about Android. So a quick thanks to everyone on the Epic 4g section since it was released. You guys have taught me everything i know, and there sure is a lot TO know about android development.

should be fun getting the new phone, dare i say im a Samsung fanboy after owning the OG Epic for almost 2 years.
[Epic 4G General] xjayman:
Thanks for the laugh!
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
So you work for sprint?