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[EVO 4G General] EVOlvedAndroid:
The LTEVO is better specked, but I'm afraid it will get out dated fast. I remember when I first got the evo I was so excited to get the latest and greatest, then htc revealed the desire hd 4 months later. A newer version of sense, better processor, and more. I was let down that htc didn't even give us sense 2.0. And remember how long it took to get Gingerbread. I'm afraid that this will happen to the LTEVO. The Galaxy nexus on the other hand will get updates first, and if they don't dev's usually port to nexus devices first. Updates make phones feel like new again. I would choose the galaxy nexus instead since it will have long(ish) term support.
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
Although your EVO is still getting great support now... so would that Desire HD 4 have been a better choice in retrospect? Or the EVO? If the EVO LTE support is like the EVO support, I'll take my chances. For me, the practicality of the kickstand and the dedicated camera button make me swing heavily in that direction.
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
I really doubt it, it'll probably be just like the Evo 3D: locked down and proprietary, so the dev scene is very weak.

Official HTC updates take forever and you only see at most two major revisions. We're already going on 6 months waiting for ICS on Evo 3D, and it's probably going to be many months longer. Also chances are there will be no updates after that.
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
The choices hurt.
[EVO 4G General] Art2Fly:
The HTC One X already has a CM9 build (or kang) either way, the HTC EVO LTE WILL be getting dev support.
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Hahahaha.

Just saw the same thing CM9 on One X

Just saw this in the Evo 3d forum. So yeah, that's encouraging. But, it doesn't have camera working, and I wouldn't be surprised if that remains the case, due to HTCs new image chip and closed code. Decisions decisions :(
[EVO 4G General] ImaWinRAR:
the sad thing is that once/if the E4GL gets aosp, all the fancy HTC perks like the imaging software and hd voice is gone so its basically just a revamped gnex... so if you go with the E4GL, you pay for the hardware, the form factor, slower updates, and restrictive root access. whereas the gnex is still fast and able enough to run most ppls daily needs, but it has more root options.

the issue is that flashaholics are usually hardware-mongers (me) and ppl that settle with what they need don't really tamper with the software and rooting... its like aspects of each phone got mixed up :(
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
I guess I really don't know that I need to strip away Sense immediately. I've read many good things about 4.0 from people who hated Sense before. With an expensive, brand new device, I don't want to screw around anyway.

I'm not going to buy a phone that isn't to my standards - I'm buying a phone because I love how it runs as is. While people furiously search for ways to root, I'll enjoy the stock performance. Maybe a year later, when everything has been exploited and the development is flowing, I'll probably start rooting and exploring customizations again. Sure I'll miss flashing stuff, but I won't miss NEEDING to because I'm jealous of everyone else's phones (not until Jellybean, that is). I'm looking forward to a great camera, blazing fast processor, everything working, 4G (which is in my area right now), etc.

To me, if you're one who despises Sense, get the Nexus. If you can tolerate it a while, get the EVO. Simple. This idea the EVO will be outdated fast is silly. What do you want your phone to do? Massage you? It has a blazing fast OS, amazing hardware, and a camera that takes as good of pictures as is needed for a phone. If things get slightly faster or slightly more memory or slightly better in the camera department, who cares? You will still have a VERY capable phone which was the first to have a lot of features. I can't wait to buy mine, yet I feel like everyone suddenly thinks it sucks. I'm not letting people bring me down on it - that's a sweet phone at a sweet price and I'm pumped! :-)
[EVO 4G General] ImaWinRAR:
^^ agreed.

what i want to know is flash performance. I saw a video of one x vs gnex and the gnex had a MUCH smoother experience. i know the e4gl and one x have different cpu/gpu. anyone have any idea how the S4 performs in this department?
[EVO 4G General] imheroldman:
Snapdragon s4 is a beast and almost out performs the krait quad core. It is easy less battery intensive for sure
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
The Evo 3D has kang as well, but we all know how that is. Besides that, given that the Evo LTE has a nonremovable battery, it also has a limited shelf life.

Anyways I've got my gnex today, it's pretty nice :D Going to give my evo 3d to my dad.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
This is Android fragmentation at its finest. Choose the hardware and live with oem skins, locked devices, proprietary drivers and software that never gets updated. Or get the Nexus, fast updates, root and compromise on the hardware.
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
I've messed with the HTC one and I didn't really notice any speed benefit over the evo 3D. It's only smoother in the main UI due to ICS's hardware acceleration, but apps are going to be basically the same. I'd say the same is going to be true with the Evo LTE.

There's definitely no observable speed benefit of the One X over my gnex. In fact I actually like the display better on my gnex, the colors are more vibrant, and black is actually black - even on maximum brightness you can't discern the black parts of the screen from the bezel, even in a completely dark room, unless you look very close (and I mean like using a magnifying glass.) The One X looks all washed out in comparison.
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
XhausX said he's in on the Evo LTE. If any of you aren't familiar with him, he basically became the Evo 4gs toast after toast split (before toast split, actually). He fixed recoveries and wrote updated root tuts, etc. I'm only saying that having xhausx on your team puts you on a winning team. Very encouraging.
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
As for the "shelf life," wouldn't we be able to send in our device for a replacement battery for a cost? Like Apple does?
[EVO 4G General] NaterTots:
I would think so. Batteries have to be cheaper than the other parts of the phone.

I played with a Galaxy S2 yesterday at the Sprint store. Really nice phone. Starnge that we have more options in ICS than that phone does. (Great Dev's I guess!)

Weirdly the camera wouldn't work. I had to do a full reset to get the camera working.

Then I went to the AT&T store down the road and played with the One X. The Sense UI doesn't seem to be all encompassing as it does on the Sense 1.0 Roms. A very nice phone. Great camera. I had the brightness up all of the way and unplugged the Charger for it. I then used it to surf, stream music, and play with settings, download Apex launcher. and after having the screen on for a full 30 minutes the battery was down to 92%. I thought it was pretty good. My Evo would be around the same with a 2600 battery in it. So the EVO LTE should be really nice with the 2000 battery.

With Apex launcher ICS looks just like what is on the S2.

I really liked both phones. They are both extremely light and the EVO LTE isn't much bigger than the Evo 4G.

The Samsung Note on the other hand is huge!

Naters
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
Well remember somebody has to replace that battery, so you have to figure in labor. Apple charges almost $90 to do it for iphones.

It may be possible to do it yourself (you never know with proprietary hardware, e.g. if the battery is glued in - IIRC older iphones and ipods did this) but personally I'd rather just have a removable battery. That and removable batteries tend to be expandable, even without increasing the size of the phone.

Anyways I've been on my gnex for a few days myself, this thing is amazing. The pure google experience is very good, I don't miss sense at all in fact. Better yet, unlike HTC phones, this one has proper bluetooth HID support (mainly because HTC roms include half assed bluetooth drivers, and there's no way to replace them without breaking sense.)
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
Galaxy Nexus is a great phone no doubt, but at this point I would feel I'm buying a dated phone. In one year, which phone would you rather have? I think by that time the LTE will be fully unlocked and have lots of dev support (meaning the Nexus won't have that foot up on it) and the hardware battle is no competition. I'm future-proofing with this phone purchase, and I personally believe that the hardware is the way to make a purchase if that is my goal.
[EVO 4G General] makatram:
How much of a deal breaker I'd a non removable battery.... I've never owned a phone with a non removable battery. Can it lead to trouble once rooted?
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
No. It is merely inconvenient, as you can't upgrade to an extended battery or switch batteries yourself when your battery stops holding a charge (if that happens).
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Here's a good article from rootzwiki about how locked down the new HTC devices are here

Also, links to share frustration. Also, at&t forced HTC to make so AT&T users cant even use HTCdev unlock. Unbelievable, huh!?

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
Wow, that's awful of AT&T. So how screwed are One X customers versus EVO 4G LTE customers?
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Depends. The tegra 3 one X customers are really hosed caused they got NO IDEA how they'll obtain S-off on nvidia (as opposed to the familiar qualcomm) and are now looking at hardware methods to do it. The att customers are the most hosed of all, it would seem, since AT&T forced HTC to disallow HTC dev unlock on AT&T branded models.

The Evo lte has qualcomm chip and removable SD which both will be pluses when trying for S-off, that and the revolutionary folks will be having a crack at it, from what I understand (but will not be looking into the tegra 3 One X).

Also, just saw the thread titled "goodbye Evo development" and realized that could be the title for the entire upcoming Evo LTE forum. Lol.

So, who here got a galaxy nexus and is loving it? I still am really considering it, but worry the HW will be dated quickly (or maybe not, given that we already know what HTC and Samsung are doing this year), and was curious if people are having any big issues or disappointment with it. Much thanks.

Edit:

@PsiPhiDan, just saw your post a few posts above. You made some real good points RE: hardware. :thumbup:

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] flex360:
TEAM REVOLUTION will be supporting the Evo 4g LTE

Popular dev Myn will be getting one also to develop roms

i have a strong feeling Mik will be too, since he loves sense

Virus might jump on board too

everything looks good for the evo 4g lte so far

i was this close to getting the galaxy nexus, im glad i didnt get it. i would take sense 4.0 over stock andoid anyday
[EVO 4G General] Zmaina5:
It maybe better/have been better to go with the lte because Sense is more familiar as opposed to switching over to touch wiz and its a waaay better processor
[EVO 4G General] alaman68:
touchwiz is on galaxy s series, nexus is vanilla android. regardless, the lte will be fully rooted at some point. too much talent working on it and they will find the exploit so you won't have to be tethered to computer. it took the 3D a couple months and there was so much complaining about that too.

the EVO LTE will be fully rooted with s-off :)
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
GREAT NEWS!!!

Ive been talking to my co-workers, as my assistant manager just got a fully working leak of ICS w/ sense 4.0 on his evo 3d. It doesnt really impress me, but it seems to be alot better on the battery life, he was playing google music on 4g on the way to work and only lost 5%, not too bad as he usually said he would of lost about 15%.

And im not too worried about the nonremovable battery, as I work in a cell phone repair shop, and I can rip it out if I want to and be like fuuck you htc, take that!! :-p
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
Well this is great news! Plus we have that other guy people have been discussing who's supposedly amazing (I say supposedly because I don't know him or what he's done exactly, although I certainly believe he's amazing if people on here think so), so I'm also very confident we'll have full S-off and lots of fun options down the road. I'm not needing S-off immediately anyway, I'm gonna be cautious about voiding my warranty on a phone that MSRP's at like $1000, haha. I've not really had issues in the past with needing a warranty (except my first EVO 4G had a screen problem - it basically just stopped working and was all warped and crazy once), but with this thing and all the issues I've heard with the One X, it concerns me (can't afford to buy another if this one dies without warranty).

Can't wait to pre-order! I have no idea why I'm so excited about pre-ordering but I am. And the fact that Best Buy (or anyone really) still has no pre-order date or anything is making me want to pre-order through Sprint. And if I do that, I'm not sure whether I'll go in-store or online. Choices, choices... :D

Oh, by the way, I played with the One X yesterday (demo) at the AT&T by my house... I thought it wasn't real at first, because the screen, from a distance, looked like it was fake (like when they just put a picture on the screen to make it look real but it isn't). It is incredible how "up" on the glass the screen appears to be. Really amazing.:)
[EVO 4G General] Art2Fly:
Just going to leave these here

HTC EVO LTE OtterBox Defender

HTC EVO LTE OtterBox Commuter
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
If you work in a cellphone shop, you should head over to the One X discussion for S-off thread and see if there's anything you can do for them. I know they've been hoping to talk to someone who may have access to certain manuals, etc.

@alaman68

The only exception I take with your glowing optimism, is that all those devs you mentioned HAVE BEEN on the Evo 3d for a year, and no one has gotten S-off on latest hboot.

Now granted, that may be in part cuz the primary rom devs (i.e. virus, myn) already have S-off due to launch day phones, and thus they haven't focused on that much on S-off (not that Virus or Myn would likely be working on bootloaders in any case). I read that there is a way for them to get S-off now by downgrading to hboot 1.4. But as it stands, no one has been able to crack the latest bootloader, and I'm sure HTC has it even more 'secure' a year later. :mad:

That said, I def hope all the attention the device gets will help with the mission (cuz I want it :) )

Everyone should blast HTC through their website, Facebook and twitter. I have been.

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] ImaWinRAR:
i believe... if you preorder online, you might be able to get it a couple days before the launch day. whereas if you did it through the store you would have it on launch day. im doing it through the site :D

anyone know if they put it up right at midnight? or is it random throughout the day?
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Anyone know if, when you preorder, you still get 15 days to return it?

I preordered my Evo thru radio shack in 2010, but can't remember the policy (and didn't once consider returning it, as we had S-off within days)

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
It you get it a few days before, I am going to be pre-ordering online!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] Art2Fly:
Amazon wireless is very good when it comes to that. What is this Activation fee that i keep hearing about though? Will I have to pay it even if I go through Amazon?
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Yup. I just looked myself. It shows up in the cart/bill. You don't pay up front, though, it comes on your next bill.

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Check this thread about dev unlock and warranty and the way HTC is really using to change their policy on warantees. It's from one x section, but I thought I was a fun read.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1631610

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] cubbieswin:
I know the pre-order date is May 7th but does anyone know when we would get the phone? My wife and I both have EVOs on their last legs. Hardware failure issues. Her phone no longer can charge a battery. Mine is starting to flake with charging and the top row of my phone no longer responds to touch.

...so we need new phones. lol
[EVO 4G General] AngelofChaos:
unconfirmed release date (with evidence from sources within Sprint) say May 18, which sounds possible as insurance is going up by $3 next month for all LTE devices and the Galaxy SIII is due sometime in June-July, I'm certain Sprint would want it out before then.

Other sources have said mid June. All we can do is preorder and wait. Unfortunate but at least we know we've secured an awesome successor!
[EVO 4G General] guih:
I will freak out if the Evo LTE gets shipped out in May lol :D
[EVO 4G General] AngelofChaos:
as will I, I'll be even more freaked out if its released before the rumored May 18th
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
I know several of the people who've posted in this thread went ahead with Gnex. I want to ask them if MMS works on Gnex. Browsing the Gnex forums, it seems I saw owners saying MMS doesn't work. Is it just that you have to use a 3rd party app (or maybe its got something to do with them using Google voice?)?

Anyone confirm?

Thanks.

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] Jaxp3r:
I posted this in another thread that was asking the same question and should be relevant for you as well:
[EVO 4G General] ImaWinRAR:
you might have better luck if you ask this question in the Gnex forums
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
She's pretty lucky if her phone could charge the battery before. Her battery life must have been sick! ;-)
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Hahahaha. Awesome. ^^^^^^^^^^^

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Lol I did, I just can't remember where. And they have soooo many threads over there. I didn't wanna post a repeat question over there.

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[EVO 4G General] ImaWinRAR:
anyone know if the LTEvo will have USB OTG capable? i hear One S/V/X have it but i havent heard anything about the LTEvo. DEFINITELY something i would use
[EVO 4G General] AngelofChaos:
It doesn't say on the specifications listed, though considering HTC took most of the specs and form factor from the One X, its certainly within the realm of possibility they'd incorporate it. Just have to wait for the reviews or its release to find out, which will be anytime between after this coming week (considering the preorder) and the end of June.
[EVO 4G General] cubbieswin:
You know that was a pretty nerdy phone joke right? Lol *snort*

Technically, my statement is correct

Without the phone, the battery would not charge.
[EVO 4G General] cubbieswin:
This off topic but does anyone else wish there was a better naming method for these phones? I think HTC releases a new phone every other week. Why call this one EVO 4G LTE?
[EVO 4G General] AngelofChaos:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/htc/sprint-htc-evo-4g-looks-set-for-may-18-release/

posted over the weekend. Apparently a tipster at Sprint sent in that there are going to be major display changes on the evening of May 17
[EVO 4G General] Cuppeerr:
ics w/ sense 3.6 not 4.0.

3.6 is fully working and 4.0 has bugs
[EVO 4G General] PsiPhiDan:
Dude... We're on a phone forum...

Nerdy phone jokes come standard. :D
[Off-topic] prochargedls2:
My wallet, chapstick, phone, and a condom just in case I get lucky tonight ;D
[Off-topic] watt9493:
battery. 4g lte crushes more juice then mark mcguire circa 96
[Off-topic] trell959:
My wallet, chapstick, keys, walkie-talkie (I'm at work)
[Off-topic] OmegaRED^:
wallet "empty"

token for a mortal kombat 3 arcade machine.

flash drive "full of random stuff"

a small box with atmel AVR chip's

And girlfriend's picture in a locket that fell off the chain.
[Off-topic] kennypow3rs:
2 used condoms that I forgot to throw away from my 1st hookers experience...
[Off-topic] drpsyko:
Just wtf dude...

My pocket? Full of holes, if you know what I mean. Hahaha, just getting up, thank God today is mid semester break.
[Off-topic] orb3000:
You don´t wanna know...
[Off-topic] SinisterModz:
Was Stevie watching you or was he with Maria?
[Off-topic] kennypow3rs:
He was with Maria watching the vizio
[Off-topic] matt0106:
I have a micro sd card and it's adapter in a case. That's it.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Im in boxers right now lol.

But usually

Right: CIgarettes, lighter, keys w/ flash drive, gum, change, lip balm.

Left: Phone

Back right: Wallet

Back left: usually empty or spare change.
[Off-topic] SinisterModz:
Damn Kenny you have a vizio, must be nice to watch tv in High Definitions. I wish I can buy your book so I can smoke weed on the reg, have bar-b-que's on the reg, and get tail on the reg like you.

Sent from April's phone using xda premium
[Off-topic] bmec12:
Zippo, keys, wallet and phone
[Off-topic] Jonstefad:
Right : wallet with condoms $ and gfs pic inside and my house keys

Left: flash drive with adapter, car keys, lip balm and a little mini mini towell

Back:nothing, my ass doesnt like to sit on stuffs

My phone is attached to my belt with his case :D

Enviado desde mi GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk 2
[Off-topic] NanoNoodle:
Nothing much...
[Off-topic] Nightwolf117:
Wallet, Beats Tours, keys, iPod
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Thread already exists. Closed.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daraj:
Everything was running perfect on the phone. I Installed ICS couple of weeks ago and 3 days ago In installed LP6 kernel. Today I was flipping through my contacts and all of a sudden the screen flickered and turned off, the phone remained on.

I rebooted, took battery out for 10 min..No luck. I flashed stock GB thinking ICS might have messed up something but no LUCK. I can call myself phone rings fine and I can see it operating fine except the screen is always off. I inserted JIG to get to download mode, and I did, but screen remained off. Did the screen just crapped on me all of a sudden ? I bought it from mobilecityonline.com You guys think I can arrange to ship it to Samsung international(im in US) for fix or there is something I can try first ?

Help appreciated.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Army92:
Sounds weird... So, once you flashed stock GB and there is no root, cwm or cfw installed it should be no problem to give it to your local service point. Sounds like a hardware issue for me.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daraj:
Thats my fear. Now I have to deal with Samsung UK:mad:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Army92:
Should be no problem as long as you are on stock rom and binary counter is at 0.

Good luck mate.:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ronnienyc:
Hi guys, I am wondering if the GNex is turning out to be better or worse than the Epic Touch in terms of radio performance and data speeds, dropped calls, etc.

There have been so many complaints about the GSM GNex that I am wondering how good or bad the Sprint version is...thanks.

Also, if anyone coming from the Photon cares to comment on the differences, that would be great too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Overstew:
WiFi is similar. I'll have a good idea on 3g performance tonight. I only tested the e4gt data at night. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Should you put quotes around "performance" when referring to Sprint 3G? :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Overstew:
Call me lucky, but I pull higher than 2 mbps on sprints 3g. If I can find out how to take screenies on this on stock rooted. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ragnarokx:
Uh, can the GN make your bicycle fly? Didn't think so. ET FTW.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hboot_zig:
If you have the gnex just volume down + power. Stock feature for ICS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] farmer312:
My Wi-Fi is very similar. At my place my 3g speeds on E4gt are abysmal. Gave my wife my e4gt so I still have it to test. Just ran it in same position in same room. E4gt 366kbps/down 338 kbps/up. Awful. Nexus 2.2mbps/down 750kbps/up. Significantly better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Overstew:
OK here's my speed now. It's slightly better than et4g.