yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] Perry977:
you should first go to the root of your C: then navigate to where you adb and fastboot file are located, then you can use the adb commands

for example

C:/android/fastboot oem lock
[HTC Amaze 4G] mskelbel:
Torrent worked!

Torrent worked Fabulously! I appreciate it so much! I'm seeding now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hyperkamote:
Boot your phone into hboot

Then select fastboot

Plug your phone

At cmd promt at your adb platform-tools folder

type fastboot devices

Check wheter your device is recognize.

When it does type

fastboot oem lock
[HTC Amaze 4G] evil1art:
My own brew

evil...............out!
[HTC Amaze 4G] divakarr:
Unrooted Amaze 4G owner
[HTC Amaze 4G] mznatnat:
How do I "Update the phone in bootloader"??? What do I choose???

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IDC If I sound like a noob right about now..... I did everything and I'm in Hboot..... how do I flash!?!?!

I'm late to work, phone stuck in bootloader mode, and nobody at work knows I am going to be late..... must hurry!
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
If yur in boot loader it should find the image on your SD card and ask you if you want to flash. Make sure you hit boot loader and not just fast boot. Should find your ph85img.zip then.
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
OK, so I'm plugging my girls amaze to the PC, opening cmd, booting into bootloader but when I type fastboot oem lock nothing happens.

I just get a message that says fast boot is not recognize.

Any ideas?

EDIT: got it
[HTC Amaze 4G] ksocoolwitit:
I'm having trouble with the "relock in fastboot" step. I'm on a mac computer and i opened up my Terminal and typed that in and it says "command not found". Is there any other program i need to open?
[HTC Amaze 4G] ThaPirato:
Well i thought I'd be more helpful & upload this for you all in case you needed it(or are too lazy to look around for it ;) http://ifile.it/rvlin0j/PH85IMG_RUB....17DC_30.78.550L.15_release_257469_signed.zip
[HTC Amaze 4G] romerovallin:
Could someone please extract their MMS.apk from their system/app and post the apk for me please? I tried to get a Sense 4 themed MMS but it didn't work and now I can't get the originial one back. Please and thank you.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Kobraki17:
Thanks! I kept trying to use the file from the 2nd post, and it never worked. Here to find out that file is only 406kbs and yours is 486mb.
[HTC Amaze 4G] BiznessMan:
Flashed it, everything seems to work except it doesn't see my SD card photos in the gallery app. Is this a known issue?
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Mine works. I have no problems
[HTC Amaze 4G] rachelm920:
Boy ohh boy what happens when I get a sinus infection?? ICS and S-OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!! I'm kinda nervous about "zapping" my $500 phone for S-off however.. I am going to try this ICS since I am a tmobile customer it should work for me... Guess I will be theming ICS and this version of sense now :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] kaabob:
Ur sig has a pic of two phones that have custom ROMS and here you are posting in all caps...?

I hope it worked! Probably did since you've been silent for a bit.
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
The file from the second post is not the rom. It is the Eng hboot and superuser package. Nice derp there.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
We could use a nice theme, including a digital battery icon (hint). :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Updated 2nd post with a link for S=on users

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] ksocoolwitit:
im just having trouble with the "fastboot oem lock" part. I can't get the computer to recognize my phone
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
Try using the all in one tool posted in the forums to relock. Seems a bit easier for some.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1493905
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Edit... Are u s=on?

The way I did it was s=off... And I recommend that anyway. It's not that difficult to do the wire trick... It was actually the easiest part... It was almost on accident. I can't help with s=on, but I would guess you need to make sure your in the right directory in cmd print (the directory that has fastboot and the oem_lock -most likely c:\android

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] rachelm920:
Ran into a bit of a snag and couldn't get my amaze to go past bootloader mode, or to be found with adb so I could move the file over... had to sneak into the bedroom, steal DH's phone and use it to copy the file over to the sd... its finally loading now...
[HTC Amaze 4G] crazypotato:
Make Folder on Home Screen

That feature is gone?! Come On HTC!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
What feature
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
MMS.apk

MMS.odex

Here's the ICS 3.6 MMS app and odex

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] crazypotato:
The "Folder" widget. I can't add folders on my home screen now. I used to be able to do it in GB. I use it to organize apps shortcuts.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
*facepalm* its native to ics now just drop a shortcut on top of another one
[HTC Amaze 4G] crazypotato:
That is why. Thanks for the tip.
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
Can some one tell me why Eng bootloader is not flashing on my girls amaze or what am I doing wrong?

I relocked the bootloader and flashed ics. Now I'm trying to flash Eng bootloader but its not reading it.

I've downloaded 2 to make sure it was a currupted one I tried the first time and renamed it to PH85IMG.zip

Here's how the bootloader looks right now.

**** RELOCKED ****

RUBY PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT-1.93.002

eMMC-boot
[HTC Amaze 4G] senkulpa:
Damn, I should've made an updated tutorial for people in that situation since I got my Amaze working by post #553.3.

Thanks nonetheless - now the others with S-ON + unlocked boot know!

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You can't flash ENG-HBOOT with S-ON. Unless I'm wrong. Read about it around post 520-550.
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
I did. I swear I thought I read that some one with a stock amaze was able to flash Eng bootloader after ics. I guess I was wrong.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ickedmel:
i followed the steps and for some reason this crap isn't working for me. I'm s-on and unlocked.... I flashed stock recovery relocked and have the RUU file name changed, but when in hboot it detects no image! PH85IMG.zip and it's on my ext sd. I have no idea what I could be doing wrong.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ce3jay:
I had to rename mines to PH85DIAG.zip When I start the bootloader, thats the name of the file it looks for.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
Make sure it's named only "PH85IMG". If you add ". Zip" your phone could be reading it as PH85IMG.zip.zip
[HTC Amaze 4G] ickedmel:
Okay I'll try that

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That worked man thanks! can't believe it was that simple over look
[HTC Amaze 4G] microamd:
whats the file size in bytes you guys have?

Local Computer file

size: 510,463,244 bytes

size on disk: 510,464,000 bytes

File size On SD card when transfered on my phone SD card. dont have SD card Reader.

Size: 510,463,244 bytes

Size on Disk: 510,492,672 bytes

when i clicked on both files. it says

the compress file is PH85IMG.zip is Invalid

***RELOCKED ****

S-on

Hboot 1.90.0008

eMMC boot

nov 1 2011 16:50:47

Recovery Stock-

Fastboot > bootloader then i still kept on getting this:

PH85DIAG.zip

no image!

PH85DIAG.nbh

no image!

eventhough i have it as:

PH85IMG.zip on my SD card

still doesnt work
[HTC Amaze 4G] Arich0908:
Can some one tell me how to do this for Tmobile . Ive read almost the whole thread but just got more confused as I kept reading.

Im unlocked , rooted with S-on still .
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Download the file, rename it to PH85IMG. Put it on the root of your sd card and go into hboot. Should install from there.
[HTC Amaze 4G] microamd:
done that still no go..

I tried Unlocked and Relocked bootloader still not working..
[HTC Amaze 4G] kaabob:
After trying to S-OFF?
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Yes, he was trying it and pulled the battery when he wasn't getting it and now he's stuck at the green arrows screen and can't flash a rom. I know others have been stuck there and fixed it, just a matter of scanning the pages to find them. I'll see if I can find someone that got it going again.
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
Post # 2 hun... follow the link to the S-ON directions.

Below instructions for S ON users only who wish to remain S ON

Flash stock recovery (may or may not be needed, some have luck just relocking)

Relock phone using fasboot (fastboot oem lock) or using all in one tool found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1493905

Flash rom update in bootloader (rename ruu to PH85IMG.zip, place on SD card and boot to bootloader)

Unlock with HTC tool

Flash custom recovery

Flash superuser package

Done!
[HTC Amaze 4G] havlaz:
work great !!! took along time to download but it was worth the wait..

now its locked but s-off.. like i had when my sensation got the leek ics relese..
[HTC Amaze 4G] puiutzuusa:
thank you so much for the download link...... and the thanks goes to morislee!
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
Your welcome :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] the show stopper:
its 4xx mb package and you have to put it in the external ad card. when u boot the phone into boot loader ( power and volume down) , update will start automatically.
[HTC Amaze 4G] bangsters:
ok battery drain is good with the leak. fully charged last night, went to bed, woke up this morning having over 80% left.

and that is with default settings, and 2 imap idle accounts and wifi turned on.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mkinney88:
Anyone have a mirror for this download, I can't download it from the link cause its always in use.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rachelm920:
The superuser package says there is an error in it when I try to flash it. I am using the one from this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20988394&postcount=4

Nevermind must've been a bad copy I redownloaded and now it worked...
[HTC Amaze 4G] morrislee:
Posting this the third time......

Can someone add itn the OP?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25241599&postcount=
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
Yeah.. I am not sure. Some people said they have to attempt flashing the superuser package multiple times until it takes. Sounds wierd, it only took one flash for me. But keep trying until it works. Some also have said even if it errors out that it still flashes. What recovery version are you using? I used CWM 5.5.0.4 and it worked right away.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Adding it to the second post. I'm throttled so bear with me.

It's done! :D

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] Double0EK:
You need to re-unlock it using the HTCDev method. The same token won't work with the update.

Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Kevinik:
Easy Steps!

It's all very easy just following this easy steps.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25227322&postcount=226Easy
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Glacierguy is probably in a brain-freeze from all of these circular posts. They just repeat over and over and over and over and over and over and over........ I think I am getting dementia from the same questions asked 100 times. READ THE DAMN FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES AND YOU WILL KNOW HOW TO DO THIS!! Don't start with the last page of the post. Always start with the

FIRST

page of the post. 762 posts and counting in just under 3 days is ridiculous! I think I'm going to be sick! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] LabattZ:
Success!

S-OFF (&re-locked), Flash ENG HBOOT, Flash ICS, Flash ENG HBOOT, Flash TWRP 2, Flash Superuser 3.0.7. I have verifiable root & custom recovery.

Here's my bootloader info:

*** LOCKED ***

RUBY PVT ENG S-OFF RL

HBOOT-1.90.2005 (PH8511000)

OpenDSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0202

eMMC-boot

Sep 27 2011, 15:13:38

I'll re-unlock in time ... i'm happy w/ ICS in it's current form :)

Many thanks to everyone who provided tools, knowledge/instruction, leaked software, etc.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
I finally made it through all 750+ posts. It took two days to read them all! I'm going to wait for an NRG custom ICS ROM. It will be much simpler and already tweaked. I'm going back to bed. :rolleyes:
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
congrats, although the whole point of s-off is so you dont have to unlock ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
My thoughts exactly :D

My PM inbox has been blowing up too lol. Although I don't mind PMs for help. It's better than cluttering a thread, AS LONG AS THE ANSWER ISN'T IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. :D

I really wish a mod would clean this weekend's mess up. I haven't read 70/77 pages here cuz its a mess. There's like 3 pages with quality information. The rest is noob problems from not reading and redundant q&a

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] theinitial21:
but from what u had said, i have to first unlock bootloader in order to be able to flash the rom correct?

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if you had unlocked bootloader and relocked it, doesnt it say relocked?
[HTC Amaze 4G] mkinney88:
If I have time tonight i will make a rooted version of this with all the goodies and post a link but I am working on porting this to the HTC Sensation.
[HTC Amaze 4G] datboicamron:
Hey guys I am stock no root and s-on and I flashed the Rom no problem. I thought it would just update and keep all my settings but it wiped my phone. No problem really just gotta set everything up again but the problem is now when I try to download apps that I had paid for before it wants me to re purchase them. Anyone else have this issue or know why/how it happened?
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
s-off takes the place of having to unlock the bootloader. if you want to unlock it, no harm, but you dont need to and creates an unnecessary step in the process
[HTC Amaze 4G] rachelm920:
Are you sure you're using the same account in the market/play store? All my paid apps are still showing up as purchased and I am in the same boat as you... just re-rooted a cpl hours ago

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Sooo hoping someone makes an deodexed ROM soon... I have the theme itch especially because the keyboard is boring, and the battery looks like the same gingerbread one...
[HTC Amaze 4G] ThaPirato:
Amen to what you 2 said,i feel like I'm back in the old iOS days where NO ONE knows how to read & or do a little research & like I've said before half these people should be waiting on a custom ROM(like I'm doing ;)

A mod should really clean up this thread(this is where Binary would be much help,jeez i miss him & his great moderating job he did :mad: )
[HTC Amaze 4G] the-other-gordo:
I had the same problem...fixed it with a reboot. Hope this works.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hacklovemaster:
Please anybody give me the mirror link of the file. I can't download it. even I tried the the last 30 min :mad:
[HTC Amaze 4G] neo2020:
Easy way to upgrade to ics.

1. Use usb disk mode with phone connected to pc and transfer img to root of sd.

2. pull out battery, hold volume down and press power.

3. phone will check for img then will ask to update, phone will restart back into hboot then install.

4. after install use amaze all in one to run unlock bootloader

5. after boot loader is unlocked flash superuser.img

You should be updated to ics and rooted

Running ics 4.03

S-on

rooted
[HTC Amaze 4G] ThaPirato:
If you cared to look 6 pages back you would've seen my linl :mad:

Here you go anyways.... http://ifile.it/rvlin0j/PH85IMG_RUB....17DC_30.78.550L.15_release_257469_signed.zip
[HTC Amaze 4G] hacklovemaster:
6 of 78 pages is under 10%. I tried to use the "search" function but it's not work. Why "mod" didn't add to the first post????
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
READ THE SECOND POST :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Should add that you need to highlight bootloader when you very first boot into it then push power to select it and that will bring you to the bootloader options and in that menu it will automatically start the update.

I could not get the update to start until I figured that out .

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
s-off method

s-on method
[HTC Amaze 4G] ifatalityx:
Does everything work okay? And I'm going to try this on my s-on Tmobile Amaze in a few.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
ok so i added the link to ics instructions in my sig, so hopefully that will cut down on redundant questions...
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
That's the thing, I did not want to unlock her device again. Just wanted to leave it stock. Only reason I wanted to flash Eng boot was just to get rid of the ROLOCKED in bootloader.

Has anyone tried the s-off method with the official ics flashed and was successful? If not Ill just reunlock her device then.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Ok so I can't mount my system in ADB. Is this because I need to reunlock my bootloader or because of the stock kernel preventing it?
[HTC Amaze 4G] darkmeridian:
Try turning your USB mode to charge only and set your phone to developer mode.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Both already are. I know it is one of the two things I mentioned, but I don't want to unlock my bootloader if it's actually the kernel stopping me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
You can only mount system in adb if you are either in boot loader or your custom recovery. Cannot mount while actually booted in android.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
I know I'll use my Amaze for now and upgrade later
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
no matter what, the fact that its a ICS base makes it 10x better. i dont care what version of sense it is. i like dual core support :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
Sense 3.6 is Android 4.0.

Sense 4.0 is Android 4.0.3

None of them are Android 4.0.4.
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
No, sense 4.0 isnt even 4.0.4; its 4.0.3. so sense 3.6 probably isnt even 4.0.3, its probably a earlier version...
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Listen kid, quit derping and release that ICS and Sense are two different things. Android 4.0 (ICS) has multiple versions (4.0.2, 4.0.3, and 4.0.4).
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
you beat me to it lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
I changed the post.

Android 4.0 has multiple versions I know that....

I edited the post read it.

Sense 3.6 is Android 4.0
Sense 4.0 is Android 4.0.3
None of them are Android 4.0.4.
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwww yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
This is acceptable then.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
No problem homie.

I can't wait till this finishes downloading 2 more hours.

Once It's done I'll check the kernel's to see what's the difference between 3.6 and 4.0 kernel to boot the ROM.

Things I'm waiting for:

Android Revolution (ICS) Edition

Fourth Sense (ICS) Edition.
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
I love would to see some energy ics nomnom
[HTC Amaze 4G] LlabTooFeR:
Not true at all

Sense 3.6 for old devices and it's running at android 4.0.3

Sense 4 for new One devices and it's running at android 4.0.3 as well.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
Ah, I never tried Energy ROM so I won't know.

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I just checked you-tube sorry for the mistake.

Sense 3.6 on the sensation has Android 4.0.3
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
I'm looking forward to just plain old ICS, so I can use Apex Launcher. I like Sense for Gingerbread, but I like the vanilla look of ICS better.
[HTC Amaze 4G] truckerdewd:
Still incorrect. The Sensation I sold Friday night had ICS 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6. Don't believe me, check the Sensation forums

Sent from my amazingly brilliant Amaze 4G using my fingers. Duh!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] 2kwic25:
o god 2hours to DL
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
APEX is ics only you can use it on this rom as you would use go launcher on 2.3

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[HTC Amaze 4G] 201reyes:
slowly...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Pulsewave:
anyone with s-off use this and end up with s-on again? thats the only thing stopping me right now
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Right. I was just saying I'd rather use Apex once I get ICS instead of Sense as my Launcher.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Interesting. I was thinking you could use "adb remount" while in Android. I remember the kernel flashers we were using before 4EXT and S-OFF would remount the system, push the modules, and then reboot to fastboot to flash them. This always failed when you were on the stock kernel until fastboot flashed the new kernel in fastboot...then you would redo it to get the remount to work so it could flash the modules.
[HTC Amaze 4G] supraman89:
How are you going to downgrade back to gingerbread if you ever need to send your phone to T-Mobile? Considering your not rooted, unlocked and S-On, i thought you need to be s-offed in order to downgrade
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
He wouldn't need to. T-Mobile will be pushing this official update within a week or two anyways, so everyone that is on stock will have the same setup he does.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
huh? how do you know its coming in the next week or so?
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
They obviously have the ROM ready, so I'm sure they'll be pushing it out soon. No proof. Just a guess.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
nah man, a leak is not the same as a final build. in fact, its a test build. the official ota from tmo likely wont drop for a while...
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Possibly, but you have to admit it's pretty stable. Doubt they will change much about it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
i dunno man, im getting awful battery life and my signal is lousy. for my sake i hope they at least update the radio and kernel...

i can literally watch my battery drop 1% every minute or so while i have the screen on, with my brightness set about 15% :mad:
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
I agree the battery life is bad, but that's with all stock ROMs (or it least it's been my experience with Android). I'll wait for some custom roms to remedy that problem.

It's odd that your signal has gone down, mine has actually gotten a little better (probably a location thing). Since we have S-OFF now though, I'm sure some devs will find a way to make the old radio flashable and make it work with ICS (if it doesn't already).
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
my signal has never been anything to brag about where i live. i can literally have 4 bars and get like 1 mb download speeds, max. sometimes i think i shouldve just stayed with cincinnati bell...:rolleyes:

on a side note, i just noticed you have a xoom too! good choice :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
I agree! It's the only Moto device I've ever liked lol. ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] lightninbug:
Ok can someone please help me? I flashed the ics football posted on my virgin amaze..here are the steps i used...

- Put the file on your /sdcard.

- Boot into HBOOT

- Reboot

- boot into HBOOT

- Reboot.

- Booted into Sense 3.6 Android 4.0.3

I did this without my bootloader unlocked and without S-OFF or root or recovery..

My question is, how can i now get root and a custom recovery? Is the HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit v3.0 still compatible with the new leak?
[HTC Amaze 4G] theinitial21:
ok, now i am officially confused. lets make sure i have this right.

I DO NOT have to unlock bootloader on my non rooted stock Amaze what so ever, meaning i dont have to use the HTC Dev Unlock tool correct? I can go ahead and just S-Off and be able to root correct?

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did u happen to rename the file to PH85IMG.zip as told in the earlier posts?
[HTC Amaze 4G] georgegreco86:
Just let it go. As long as your rolling stock it works. I let mine sit for like 30 mins, it booted three times, i put it on the external SD, and it worked, and asked me to press down to apply the update. Than my HBOOT screen was updated to MAR 15 2012, instead of Nov 17, 2011. So continue from there, two more boots it will do ON ITS OWN, only press buttons when asked. And it worked FLAWLESSLY. My WIFI calling, 4g All that is SUPREME. Here in Vegas anyway. Hope this helps/