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[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ReActiveDisorder:
You only need a GSM Phone to be considered a world phone. I think 2 countries including the US use CDMA the rest use GSM. So basically yes the DS is a world phone.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
'sigh' even though I'm sick to the point of being bed bound, I still researched this for you. Do your home work before posting. Also, I know the difference between gsm and cdma. After over 400 posts on this site, it's remarkable how little credit you give me. But back to the point, there are cdma phones out there that have Sim slots, also known as world phones. It does depend on the hardware however. So a Sim slot =/= unlocked for domestic gsm use. Actually it never means that, because I've never come across a world phone that's already unlocked for domestic gsm. Usually you have to flash a new baseband to enable the radio to work properly (assuming the radio has the capability to run on your bands).

The thread is brewing as we speak. Maybe you guys would like to stir the pot

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25127887
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
Fight the man!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ReActiveDisorder:
Yes you are correct. It was just the way you said it I assumed you were trying to say you could make a CDMA only device a "World phone" by simply flashing a radio.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rdrrlabs:
Apple saw the value in iPhones with CDMA, and Google owns Motorola Mobility so the push for the Droid team to branch out past Verizon might be just the kick start they need.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Motorolla is in limbo - Google has repeatedly said they will not make a 'Google' branded hardware phone, they bought Motorolla for the patents. Most likely they will sell the hardware division of it off to Huwai (or however you spell it).

I wouldn't count on Motorolla making out from being a part of the Google empire, quite the opposite - they will be stripped of anything Google deems to be of value and what's left will be sold to the highest bidder.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
indeed thats the only thing I didnt like about the sidekick line . it seemed to be not as hardware intensive so kids could have a cool phone that didnt break the parents bank .... although I will say the sidekick 4g stepped it up a bit but if I were to get one id wanna see dual core atleast 8mp cam 1080 you know all the minimum specs to make it a superphone

But I just looked and apparently Tmo is discontinuing the sidekick line

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/t-mobile-discontinues-the-sidekick-4g-i-hope-we-see-a-follow-up-soon/

Honestly I think the MT4GS may be the last of the great qwerty's -__-
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yogi2010:
whoa, you scared me for a minute there, but i think that was just the announcement for the Sidekick 4G being retired. 3 days after that article came this one, where they say the Sidekick line will continue(well, it's a little vague, but...):

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/t-mo...-retirement-says-sidekick-line-will-continue/

but yeah, the Sidekick 4G isn't bad at all, once they fixed some bugs and after i rooted and debloated it... i'm actually using that device over the MT4GS for a few weeks now. the processor is good, the screen is good enough for me, the keyboard is awesome; where they skimped i guess is on the smaller amt. of ROM/RAM, and on the 3 MP camera, which is kinda low for these days. but i really dig the physical design, the way the screen tilts slightly forward, etc.

that would be awesome to see what you described. it seems kinda like a no-brainer that that would be an awesome phone! i potentially wouldn't mind if they also upped the screen to 3.6 or 3.7 in. maybe :)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
Oh , im sorry yea I saw that when I looked back it was just a EOL for the sidekick 4g .

Yea if they made a updated sidekick atleast 1.2 duallie , 8mp cam 1080 , Super amoled? gorilla glass? TV out ? oh man id be all over that bad boy

Look at the specs on this beast

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_d_quad_xl-4569.php not a qwerty though

1.5 ghz quad core , TV OUT 8gb rom , 1gb ram

I wonder what the quality of huawei is ?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ravi_n:
We'll find out soon enough. They're doing some new myTouches (including a low-end QWERTY, IIRC).
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Unrelashade:
Hark my dear qwerty loving fellows!

I forecast a neeewww era of qwerty phones, which will work like that:

Buy qwerty-keyboard-equipment specially crafted for your next multi-core, hd display, uber slim device. Since it is so uber slim, it is not a problem to make it a bit thicker by attaching an external USB-keyboard. Also, by not needing any battery it will stay pretty slim and still feel good in your pocket. For the power users who want it, there can be even an additional battery, like for the Asus Transformer. You might also be able to use the keyboard as a charging device/ spare battery, even if you don't use the keyboard. (For trips, e.g.)

USB Android keyboard already exist (http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/) and smaller ones already exist for the iPhone (blurgh) even if it only works through bluetooth and needs its own battery to work (http://www.gizmag.com/nuu-minikey-sliding-qwerty-keypad-case-iphone-4/18612/)

What do you say? U like? Or unrealistic?

Regards

Unrelashade

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Also, keep your eyes open for the Motorola Jet. Although I can't find any news on it :( newest seems to be this:

http://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-phone-2012-42303/
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
Yea I saw the huawei mytouch qwerty vid . yuck 5mp cam single core processor.. no thanks I really liked the HTC line wish more people had bought so HTC didnt go EOL on qwerty's
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
I'd love to buy an Asus Transformer Prime Mini!!!

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] monkor:
No matter what cool QWERTY sliders come out, I'm going to go ahead and assume none of them will make it to T-Mobile. Still, the prices and customer service are great, so I have no intention of abandoning them. Having 4 major phone companies definitely helps keep things competitive. That being said, god I wish for once we'd get something like the Motorola Jet...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
My carrier loyalty goes where the hardware takes me. On that account, the only reason I am with T-mo is due to the doubleshot. If this was a sprint device, i'd be with them.

If another carrier comes out with a device with a hardware keyboard and S4 or greater chipset, I'll be on their network in the blink of an eye.

I had a second doubleshot with no sim card or cell service for a while, I can find enough wifi that the carrier is really irrelevant when it all comes down to it .

Sent from a digital distance.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] monkor:
I envy your ability to be so flexible, not a bad trait to have.

I live just on the outskirts of DC, so I could technically get any carrier. But I previously had AT&T, and their customer service was brutal. Verizon is the best obviously, but it's also too expensive for my taste. And for whatever reason T-Mobile gives me, essentially, unlimited data (I've gone over 8 GB *intentionally* more than one time without being throttled; I pay for 2GB) for dirt cheap and I have perfect service at my house. For me, it's a no brainer.

Very true, that the Wi-Fi infrastructure is greatly improving. Having a signal doesn't mean the end of the world, in most cases.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] WLDock:
IMO, I think the design of the Nokia E7-00 is one of the sweetest Qwertys out right now. If I could dream a bit...that design with a new dual core, card slot, removable battery, and Ice Cream sandwich would keep me content for awhile. Too bad... Will be interesting to see what happens with Nokia.

I wanted a nice QWERTY myself but gave up waiting for something nice to come to T-Mobile. My wife has the Moto Cliq 2 and I am about to pick up the myTouch 4G Touch for her as she will not use a touch screen only phone.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ben7337:
Googled, saw 4 row keyboard. Instant fail in my book.

This thread looks to have died about a week ago, but has anyone heard anything about a qwerty slider with a bigger than 4" screen? I really think we need a 4.3"+ slider here. I mean it's 100% doable within a reasonable size.

Take the HTC Rezound and Thunderbolt, both over 13mm thick. I think the rezoung is 13.7. So is the motorola droid 2, the droid 4 is 12.7mm thick, even thinner than these htc phones. On top of that the droid x that paired with the droid 2 in similar specs was 9.9mm thick. The droid razr maxx is 9mm thick. So I don't see why we can't get a Droid 4 maxx with 4.3" screen, same size, just 13mm thick instead of the 9.9 razr maxx. It'd still be thinner than the HTC high end phones with the exact same screen size. There's no excuse blaming thickness as a reason to not have a slider.

Motorola might be annoying and lock their phones down as much as possible, but I'd be willing to ignore that fact if they'd just get a nice droid 4 maxx with 4.3" screen out.

Or samsung could do a galaxy SIII slider, that would be awesome too with a 4.8" screen, or maybe the 4.65" screen of the galaxy nexus. I'm sure they could make it only 13mm thick as well, but it wouldn't get the awesome battery of the moto phone.

Also just realized this is a tmobile thread, I was wondering what was with their phones being talked about only. Anyway all carriers deserve some phone like this.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
Well, I have a Droid 4 for work and I don't really like it so much. The keyboard is nice but it's ridiculously loud. The device itself is way too big. You're asking for a 4.3+ screen size and I'll say you're crazy. Why not just hold a tablet up to your face and make a phone call?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] godbilla:
I agree that anything over 4.3 is a little big, but the first samsung epic 4g slide didn't seem, too big. My friend has a galaxy note and he looked rather ridiculous holding the phone to his face. My dream phone would be----->

4-4.3" screen 720p sled or samoled

And a slide out keyboard just like the one from the HTC EVO Shift.. out of all of my QWERTY phones I've had, it had the best keyboard.

12mp camera

Also.. quad core exynos say whaaat.. ya its only a dream though.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
4 inch screen

Barely any bezel

3 hard keys

Slide out keyboard that slides like Evo Shift but looks and feels like the HTC Pro

NFC

Quad core

64 GB internal

Swappable micro SD on side, additional micro SD behind battery

2 stereoptic 12.1 MP back, 3.2 MP front

Led flash back

Built in Power Mat conductivity

Micro hdmi out

16mm audio jack

Sense

Unlocked bootloader and nvflash

Boot animation that says Apple sucks
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] 2G1J:
You had me until you said Sense. My two encounters with Sense have been terrible, this phone and the HD2, and much prefer plain vanilla Android like my G1 and G2 had.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
I figured that would be the first replying comment.

Analog clocks on a smartphone just look terrible. And no other flip-clock weather widget looks as good. Every other imitator including Beautiful Widgets and HD Widgets are ugly or too small in comparison. Even if you cut out everything else, the flip-clock weather widget sells Sense.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Etrick:
Yeah they aren't selling to peoplelike us, they're selling to the average consumer. The epic was a really great keyboard phone. Hell I want a note slider. I almost got the asus transformer slider when I got my prime.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Unrelashade:
Hehe listening to all your dream devices...

Maybe soon the day will come when we will be putting our parts together for our Smartphones like we do now for our PCs :)

BTW maybe there will be QWERTY Tizen devices in the future. Hopefully, they'd also be less locked down than some Android devices, since Tizen is said to be more GPL than Android and is also backed by the Linux Foundation.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
It may come true faster than we think :)

Just few years back when I had my first iPAQ I dreamed of 1GHz single core with 256MB RAM and I was told "it ain't gonna probably until you retire" lol :rolleyes:

My wishlist as of 2012:

CPU (x64 architecture - enough of this ARM crap) with as many cores as possible ;)

RAM as much as possible ;)

internal memory (storage) at least 1TB

4''-4.5'' screen with no "overhead" around it (I like larger screens too, but anything bigger than that just won't fit in the regular size pockets)

slide-out QWERTY 4-row (or 3 rows if it is not full width of the phone's body, basically the keys have to be good size and spacing)

standard SDXC side slot

micro SDXC internal slot

at least 2 x USB3.0 ports (pref. mini since it isn't much bigger than micro yet more cumbersome)

any and all existing/possible radio bands

front camera a MUST (for videocalls)

if it has to have secondary camera (the one on the back, aka "primary" as they are called) it better have good retractable lens with at least 5 optical elements to truly replace our "home snapshooters" instead of dumb tiny-lens/tiny-sensor but 10000 megapixel crap; or none back camera at all

hdtv tuner (or HDTV/4K TV tuner?)

SW/MW/LW/FM radio tuner (if you are camping often you would appreciate having full spectrum of AM too)

built-in FM transmitter

separate white LED for flashlight with dedicated hardware button

dual headphone plugs

and that's just from the top of my head :D
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Unrelashade:
Haha :D What I actually meant was not to have hardware in our mobile phones as powerful as computer hardware is now, but to be able to buy the parts you want.

For example:

I'd buy an quad core processor 1,5 Ghz, 2 gig RAM, some camera stuff, etc aaand for the body one with QWERTY 4 rows. The put it all together like I did with my PC. And a buddy of mine could order the same stuff but a thinner body without a QWERTY keypad and put his stuff in there.

I should watch these XDA-TV videos about disassembling smartphones to see what else I need, haha.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] WangChung81:
Motorola XT898 will be next for me, whether or not it comes to T-Mobile. MT4GS was supposed to be a flagship device, with the 8MP camera, QWERTY and everything else it offered. Instead it's become some readheaded stepchild of both HTC and T-Mobile support. I think more of the blame lies on T-Mob's shoulders, as they've had their heads buried in their .... while they were concentrating on the failed merger and penny pinching for the bottom line. They stopped the customer and device focus and didn't apply pressure on HTC to provide timely updates to the issues the phone had/has, not to mention ICS.

Anyway, here's some more info on the GSM version of the Droid 4:

http://www.themobileindian.com/news/6119_Motorola-XT898-to-be-GSM-version-of-DROID-4
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
I have the Droid 4 for work and would not recommend. Way too big, keys too "clicky".
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Narhim:
Hi guys,

I seriously hope for a new qwerty nexus... 5 of new nexus devices should arrive in November, so as Google patented a new slider tech for smartphones, i seriously look forward to what Motorola will be releasing any time soon (even maybe one of the nexus and if we're lucky enough a qwerty quadcore smartphone with some nice stats and a pure jelly bean)... Fingers crossed & looking forward to the upcoming Google presentation :D
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yogi2010:
I've been thinking the same thing. With the way carriers seem to be so slow with updating devices, it would be great to have a qwerty that can get updates quickly, directly from Google. And if Goolge patented a new slider technology, that is great news!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yogi2010:
By the way, do you have a link to the bit about Google patenting a new slider tech? I am interested to know more about that, as it would be music to my ears!

Edit: found it.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/05/01/google-patent-application-hints-at-nexus-slider/
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Narhim:
It is a music to my ears :) my doubleshot is good enough, thanks devs for vinq and other ICS roms, but a quadcore slider with 1.5gb ram or more and ota jelly bean pure android w/o blotaware... Ah, that would be something I'd get asap!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yupThisIsMyName:
I'm hoping they make a Nexus slider with a hardware shutter button and no bigger than 4". The MyTouch 4G Slide would have been absolutely perfect if it had a better keyboard (like the Droid 4, but with home, search, menu, and back buttons) and didn't have that "genius" button. I wouldn't mind seeing a phone of similar dimensions.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
Ok , Here is a radical idea. Dev's got the software locked down. But I've always been a hardware guy. Would it be impossible to build my own slider out of component's? How would the case be formed? Around the processor and or keyboard? It would be way beyond anything Ive ever done but I don't think it would be out of the relm of reality.

What do you guy's think? I think the hardest part would be forming a case that fit everything. The rest would be just connecting components in proper configuration.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Narhim:
That is an idea I am also playing with since I live in Switzerland, which has a terrible lack of any qwertz smartphones since desire z (basically the whole of Europe does)... I see quite many problems here regarding the compatibility of the specific parts you'd need to plug together. It's similar to a PC or even more similar to a barebone notebook. However you do not have the possibility of getting the parts that easy, which is another huge drawback of this idea.

I mean for PCs its easy, for barebone notebooks its sometimes a pain to get graphic cards and other components, therefore for smartphones you will probably not even get a cpu...

Another thing is the firmware / hboot / driver for all those parts, basically the bios + all the basic software you need for all the parts to communicate with each other... This would probably be even more difficult, as you'd need to understand all the parts very precisely.

And well the case would be an interesting thing to build around the motherboard + adding the display, keyboard, working mechanic slider parts, flashing radio, driver, rom... And don't forget the battery... Hmm... And here I forgot half of the things needed for sure ;)

I have another idea here, you can use existing phone and upgrade it. Let's look on doubleshot. You could for sure upgrade the RAM probably up to 1gb or depending on the amount of blocks used atm even higher - out of 3x 256 just make 3x 1024 :D you'd need to rewrite parts of the firmware but that's always an issue for every part you'd want to change.

For the CPU access and exchange you should be able to do the same...

The mechanic exchange just depends on you being very precisely with a microflex and a microtech-welder.

However you will probably again fail on the firmware communication. The Mainboard just won't recognise the CPU and/or the RAM because lack of compatibility (unless you find the perfectly fitting parts - need to rewrite only a small part of the firmware - and again we are at the beginning of the whole problem)...

Any thoughts on this?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
If we're talking about forming a company that builds custom phones, count me in as an investor.

Perhaps the case hardware can be made via 3D printer? It may not be that hard. There was someone over in the Transformer Prime forums that was designing and building custom slip cases for the tablet. Maybe we just need someone to do that technical work.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
Yea I didnt think of that you could probably map out the finished motherboard and components and screw locations and feed that into a 3d printer and boom.

Ok Yea firmware would be a problem. We'd need an advanced dev that could write the firmware from scratch I imagine. Because recoding existing software to greet components it wasn't designed to would be epic failure.

Id like to see a quad core , nvidia somethin or other , 4.3 LED 64gb storage 1gb ram and the evo shift 4g keyboard ,articulating to 45 degrees above the keyboard , hdmi out 16mp cam , 1080p now that would be something
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] blackknightavalon:
The only dev I know of who could write the firmware from scratch is Rebellos. Why not email Geeksphone and see if they're willing to do this?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Narhim:
Yeah, well I hope for a 4-4.3 inch quadcore nexus slider with more than 1gb ram (give us 1.5gb or moar!). A 5 row keyboard is a need with special keys... Let's see what Google says on the I/O meeting...

Please Google give us a QWERTZ flagship we could be proud of and that has a bright future!

EDIT: In case that won´t happen, lets start a company ^^
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Unrelashade:
That's a great idea. First we'd need a poll or petition who'd buy such a phone and which developers/ hardware dudes would be on it to help. Then send Geeksphone a mail with the link to prove people actually such a thing, would buy it and developers would support it.

Let's do this guys :highfive:

<insert Kony like song>
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
The G3 rumor mill is hitting the blogosphere pretty heavy (or was late last week). It's odd how everyone's thinking that it could be a slider QWERTY even though HTC made their "no more QWERTYs" announcement. That would be a dream though!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Narhim:
What are you talking about? :confused:
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
http://androidcommunity.com/rumor-t-mobile-planning-htc-g3-in-the-coming-months-20120719/
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Can't wait to see a leaked picture of this. Only time will tell :D

Either way, it will still be quite some time before it picks up dev action
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yogi2010:
Have you guys seen the patent that HTC filed?

http://www.patentbolt.com/2012/07/htc-patent-reveals-new-slide-out-styled-smartphone-design.html

It looks like they are hopefully still trying to keep some of the qwerty market. This isn't necessarily tied to the G3 rumor, but I am hoping...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] manimmal:
Yeah that would be awesome. That's basically the design the Touch Pro 2 had. If they bring that back with the exact same keyboard layout the TP2 had, but for the G3 that would be perfect! We shall see what happens tho...definitely not getting my hopes up. If only the 7 Pro wasn't a windows phone...

Sent from my 4GSlide using the xdApp
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Narhim:
I see, thanks for the good news. My concern however, it won't make it to europe... Really hope for a good qwertz slider smartphone here... Fingers crossed!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ryaninc:
Fascinating! Of course, just because they file a patent doesn't mean they will actually use it. But still, HTC has used unique slider/hinge designs for both the G1 and G2, so if there is a G3 in the works, it's very possible that it could use this new design. We can hope, right?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
No offense, but that's a God ugly slider. No way I'd want a phone that slides open like that.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
No?

HTC 7 Pro (4:00 in): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9WO8uXeAJY

HTC Touch Pro 2 (4:20 in)): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkZlsS_lFo

Both were delicious phones.