yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
Correction.. you do not have to have the JuopunutBear hboot to be s-off.

If your bootlader says S-OFF, you are S-OFF. Simple as that.

The JuopunutBear bootloader is optional.
[HTC Amaze 4G] derride8:
Anyone? Please
[HTC Amaze 4G] Flipnfr3ak:
can anyone help me
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
I was running fourth bar 3.0 when I did it, I also used v0.1 of control bear, a paper clip and got it on the first try.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
Put it in your computer and reformat it. Uncheck the "Quick Reformat" box.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spastic909:
dumb question coming....all i need is a paperclip for this to work(well as far as needed tools?

sorry im new to the amaze and its so mch different than getting supercid or soff on my g2

is it better to have a plastic coated paperclip?

please dont kill me for this question
[HTC Amaze 4G] rtaz79:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but can we achieve S-off now if we are already running the new Ics update?
[HTC Amaze 4G] sanchitgrover:
It has not been confirmed by the s-off team so dont try :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] fear20056:
When I did the S-off method I thought that will unlock the network to use another sim card but it's the same

So I unlocked the bootloader, root my phone and s-off it and after all of that it still sim locked
[HTC Amaze 4G] sanchitgrover:
Yeah a plastic coated one works ..

U wont be killed for the question just hit thanx :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spastic909:
does it matter what length? i read the smaller ones were a better option
[HTC Amaze 4G] domin8:
can someone help me?
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
if your bootloader is "re-locked" then you need to follow the steps mentioned in this thread multiple times about how to get back into recovery, then you need to HTC Dev UNLOCK your phone again, and start over...

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sim lock is completely different, just buy an unlock code from ebay, they are like 3.50USD or cheaper... then all you need is a non-TMO sim card to reboot with, then it will ask you for the unlock code...
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
I used a small paper clip cuz the hole is tiny, and just wrapped it with electrical tape and it worked on the first try with v0.1. I read the thread and all these people were having problems with v0.2 so I went with the older one, it did wipe my SD but I had it backed up so no biggie. I would back up both internal and external memory just to be safe.

Also watching the video that djannes posted quite a few pages back helped, I counted just like in the video, did a few dry runs before actually attempting it too lol. Worked like a charm
[HTC Amaze 4G] domin8:
oh god damnit i thought i needed to lock it :lol: ok i'm gonna mess with it some more. Thanks, I took a hiatus from the forum so i'm a little rusty
[HTC Amaze 4G] hzm82:
Shorter in length worked better for me. When I didn't cut the paper clip in half, sometimes making the contact didn't result in Grounding of the pin. After it was cut 2/3 -1/2 in length it gave a consistent contact every touch.
[HTC Amaze 4G] musky:
nevermind I'm an idiot. my antivirus was killing it. now just have to get the wire trick right.
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
I had this happen as well and it turned out that my Norton software was seeing controlbear as a threat so I had to go make an exception for it then it ran just fine.
[HTC Amaze 4G] musky:
Hooray

Norton was the problem. Made an exception, and got the wire trick on my second try!!!! S-off now, let the games begin! Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Nice!

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] musky:
I know its been asked before, but my internal sd won't mount through 4ext recovery. What's the best plan of attack?
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Post the problem you're having in this thread so that Maxx will be aware of it. He's insane when it comes to fixing problems with his recovery. Wouldn't be surprised if he had a fix for you tomorrow if you tell him.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spastic909:
final question...i hope

so after doing this i can install the ruu tmous and have ics..this i know, but when the ota comes out and I decide to go ahead with that will I be able to revert back to everything needed to be able to use the ota? On my g2 I had to get s-on back and whatnot.

thanks you guys are a whole lot more friendly in the amaze forums!!

cheers
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
I am having the EXACT same problem as glacierguy (see below) in that ControlBear is telling me that my HTC Amaze requires root. I saw the post where glacierguy (and one other) fixed this issue by installing Android Revolution HD so I tried that but I am getting the same error. I also flashed a couple other ROM's, went back to stock, and am now back on And Rev HD.

I have taken the additional step of climbing up onto my roof, but quickly realized that jumping would only send me to the hospital ALIVE but immobilized where I would lay lamenting about why I can't get this to work.

Any help might keep my family from inhereting my HTC Amaze with S-ON.

Originally Posted by glacierguy

======== ControlBear version 0.2.1 for JuopunutBear S-OFF==========

Starting up......

Backing up......

Program requires root, sorry.

Transferring backups....

Backup FAILED!!

Exiting!!

Press ENTER to exit.....

adb debugging on

charge only

======== ControlBear version 0.1 for JuopunutBear S-OFF ==========

Starting up......

Program requires root, sorry.

Quit....

Press ENTER to exit.....

I tried 0.1 and 0.2.1
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
make sure that superuser isnt denying root access to the program... (just set superuser to grant access to everything)
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
I see you tried other ROMs. Was Energy ROM one of those that you tried? I was able to S-OFF two different Amazes while on this ROM, so maybe try that one if you haven't.

2nd thing you could try is make sure your SU and su binary are updated to latest.

You could try updating or making sure busy box is on your rom. I don't know if this program uses it in any way, but I know a few superuser apps require it.

Did you try running controlbear as administrator? Try that and see if it helps.
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
I'm using ChainFire's SU app. Have the latest version of PRO. Now set to accept all requests. Reboot phone. Same problem. Great suggestion though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] heyjoe66:
JUST TO CLARIFY THE COMMON CONFUSION:

IF YOU HAVE A T-MOBILE DEVICE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO S-OFF TO FLASH T-MOBILE ICS LEAK

- just relock bootloader (fastboot oem lock)

- rename ROM zip to PH85IMG.zip

- put it to external sd card

- reboot to bootloader
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Try the normal (non-pro) version of SU. Maybe the pro version is screwing with controlbear.
[HTC Amaze 4G] superevilllama:
Correct, however, if you want s-off in the future, it may be too late if you are already running ICS. No one has proved/tested this yet, so it stands. (EDIT see below:)

EDIT: the MAN globatron says it works even after ICS. sooo S-off can also be achieved after flashing. Great news!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
I did not try Energy, but will find it and give it a shot and see what happens.

BusyBox Pro is installed.

And yes, I have tried (all versions) of Control Bear with user and Admin priv's.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Flipnfr3ak:
got off the irc with dexter93......sad moment.......first to fully brick an amaze trying s-off.....:(
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
Yep. Did that BEFORE upgrading to the Pro version...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spastic909:
you gotta be ****tin me??? seriously? if so you made my effin day
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
WE HAVE
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
like a boss! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
It sucks this does not work on ICS :( I attempted and failed.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spastic909:
so i ran the fastboot oem lock so i could flash the tmous leak. It worked but says

***relocked***

*** security warning***

now everytime i try to boot anything like recovery, or just reboot phone it keeps bringing me to the hboot screen.

when I choose reboot bootloader option in fast boot it reboots and says ***relocked*** and no security warning like before.

so i dont think its bricked, i just dont know where to go from here

thanks in advance im freaking out
[HTC Amaze 4G] ThaPirato:
On behalf of everyone,THANK YOU for all your hard work :-)

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Originally Posted by superevilllama View Post

Correct, however, if you want s-off in the future, it may be too late if you are already running ICS. No one has proved/tested this yet, so it stands.

Globatron says otherwise lol

--->WE HAVE
[HTC Amaze 4G] GSMachinst:
Makes it so much easier. Thanks bro
[HTC Amaze 4G] hatlesssandman:
S-off is actually quite easy :)

Well finally had the guts to do s-off after seeing ICS leaked even though i could have flashed it without s-off since i was t-mobile but in the long run s-off makes everything so much easier, definitely was worth the risk. and those that are still afraid to do it, literally it isnt bad at all I read up on almost everything related with s-off had a bunch of trouble shooting windows open while doing the process, and guys all u need is the initial instructions posted by globatron (however i didnt need to go back to stock rom, i was successful doing it with Fourth Bar / Faux Kernel). Took about 4 tries and a paper clip with electrical tape in the middle. Literally very simple, follow the instructions to the tee, and guaranteed u wont have problems (be patient, dont pull battery out or disconnect usb, this is where people seemed to have messed up as i read through the various issues people had). I extracted the Juopunutbear zip to my c drive where all my fastboot and adb stuff is and ran it as administrator as per instructions. and wala now on the modified/updated hboot with ICS :) Thanks for all the work the developers have put in (I got my amaze about a week ago so i didnt have to wait so much for all this to happen, upgraded from nexus one lol)
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
I wiped my phone, flashed to the Energy Rom, ran Control Bear 0.2.2, and ...

IT WORKED! I am now S-OFF.

I am fascinated by why this is happening to certain HTC Amaze phones and not others, and why one ROM will fix this issue on a particular phone but not another.

Thank you for saving me from a life of psycho therapy. Forget the "Thank You" meter, I'm on my way to your place with a case of beer!

Now just waiting for some of the really good ROM's for the Amaze to get updated to ICS with Sense 4.0, tweaked and de-bloated.

And the "wire trick" was a "one short" deal for me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
didn't we get 3.6, not 4.0? (which seems retarded to me... but whatever... maybe wind or telus will get 4.0? lol...
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
I notice that after gaining S-Off, my phone says it is "LOCKED" again. But I'm not supposed to care becasue now I am S-Off and "LOCKED" does not matter anymore, right? I could look it up, but after two days of trying to gt some beer out of ControlBear, I have a headache.

And, Yes we got Sense 3.6. But someone will rip Sense 4.0 out of a ROM for another device and slide it right into an Amaze ROM.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Right. That's why you can reinstall recovery and root w/o re-unlocking.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kaabob:
Didn't you say it worked before you tried? And others in this thread says it works too...

IIRC its cuz you did a battery pull in the middle of running control bear... One of the more common mistakes leading to a brick
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Globatron confirmed it works with the leak.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rtaz79:
So if I understand this correctly, we can still achieve S-off even if we are currently S-on running the new Ics update right?
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Yes, confirmed by Globatron
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Mine did too, but I have flashed eng hboot and splash screens no prob. You could probably go to HTCdev and unlock again but kinda pointless.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
Can we do it this on Bulletproof 2.5.0?

or do we really have to flash the original rom so this can be achieved?

has anyone tried on Bulletproof 2.5.0?
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
There have been some that achieved it on a different rom but it seems to have the best success and is easier on stock.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
hey friend :D

long time.

What's the best way to flash stock ROM?

It's been a while since I've been to this forum.. lacked interest here since development was "dead".
[HTC Amaze 4G] jslcpd157:
Tried this on the ICS leak... Kept getting some error message about device needs root. I don't get it. I've got SU and Busy Box installed, and other root apps are working... :/
[HTC Amaze 4G] Marquis63:
Quick n00b question, how or where do I back-up my internal sd to?
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
to the computer -__-
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Best way is to put it on your sd card and rename it PH85IMG and boot into hboot. It should install from there. Good luck.:)
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
S-OFF Check

ICS Check

But now I seem to have lost the root on my phone. SuperUser went on fine, but programs accessing ROOT say "NO ROOT". And according to SuperUser, I have no SU binary and it will not install it.

Am I the only one who thinks that HTC uses XDA as their software development department?
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
You don't have to be on the stock rom. I haven't seen anyone that hasn't been able to do this on the Energy ROM yet.
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
I had this happen too, I had to uninstall super user from the market, and get the zip from one if the how to root the amaze threads and flash that in recovery and then I got root back.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] truckerdewd:
I couldn't do it on Energy rom. Ended up like a lot of others with it being stuck with the green arrows and finally gave up after 4 days of trying

Sent from my amazingly brilliant HTC Amaze 4G using my fingers. Duh!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] FrankRNC:
I had to try 5 different ROMs (including stock) before I found one that worked. It was not something I (or others) was doing wrong. Just one of those things and I finally hit the right combo with some help from the local talent.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
im stuck in the green arrows screen!

What can I do, I click the "volume down" then try to go on recovery but it wont work... how can I fix it?

Someone quick... I need the phone to wake up with its alarm clock.
[HTC Amaze 4G] microamd:
Try This:

enable ur debugging mode.

Run Amaze_All-In-One_Kit_XDA_V3.0 (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1493905)

Boot into Bootloader commads in command Options.

Flash the Stock T-mobile US kernel(f you are t-mobile).

did that on mine and it work.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Also keep running the program, you haven't gotten the timing down right yet.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
how can I enable debugging on HBOOT Screen?

Someone please help me!
[HTC Amaze 4G] microamd:
oh nvm.. just go to ur bootloader which is volume down + power. and ran the software..

I forgot ur stuck on green arrow..

Try this:

Run Amaze_All-In-One_Kit_XDA_V3.0

Go to ur Bootloader

flash the T-mobile Kernel

@ jimczyz - Also keep running the program, you haven't gotten the timing down right yet.

Yup keep it running , coz u will need it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
thanks but that didnt work..

how can we install recoveries manually again?
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
I would try using Hasoons AIO program and install the recovery. Or rename the recovery to PH85IMG and reboot into hboot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] microamd:
^^^ yah Hasoons which is the toolkit . recovery top right coner... Try that first then do the kernel again.

make sure your plug-in on ur computer all the time coz it will re-run the beer to complete the install.

I remember what i did now.

----

bootloader.

installed Stock recovery from Hasoon toolkit..

then back to bootloader.

flashed the kernel Stock T-mobile.

waited for it to reboot, then the beer JuopunutBear software popup on computer. waited for it to complte
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
Well, I have S-OFF now with an ENG bootloader and SuperCID. :D However, I forgot to backup the internal SD and lost everything on it. :(

I'll have to see what Hexamob can recover from it, if anything, later. I had several GBs of NSFW media and would hate to have lost it all. The Amaze has a good camera; at least, my girlfriend says so anyhow.

I tried the wire for 20-30 minutes without joy; just an error code that S-OFF failed. I give it to my buddy to try and he got it on his first attempt. FFS!

--

Sent via Tapatalk 2 from my TELUS HTC Amaze 4G on the Fido network.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
This is what I just tried

Flash recovery from HBOOT

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1521169

On recovery, mount the SDcard (I had to format it)

Place NAND backup

Apply nand backup

Still get green arrows!!!

What can I DO???????????

HELP =/

:::When I go into HBOOT, it says "no ph8rmimg found":::

:::Edit 2:::

Flashed Kernel faux and it now works again.
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
so, i ran the jbear program, it detected the device and it went through all the commands. then some thing came up after the adb commands asking me if they were correct to press ctrl+c and that i had 5 seconds. but right away it went to the next line, some thing about redetecting and it started counting up to 45 but nothing would happen and it will redetect and count up to 45 again. after it did this a few times it asked to to connect device and install drivers. at this point it only goes to the black screen with green errows.

i already have drivers installed. everything seemed to go along fine till it started redetecting and counting up to 45.

i wasnt able to boot into recovery nor the device. i reflashed recovery and kernel and now it lets me boot into recovery but thats it.

it doesnt let me boot into the phone nor it runs jbear program anymore. it keeps asking me to connect and install drivers.

any help will be appreciated.

EDIT: everytime i run the jbear program now, it just goes straight to the htc splash screen and gets stuck there. jbear program then tells me to connect and install drivers.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ls1xtreme:
alright guys...i've been trying this for 2 days...i'm currently on the ics ruu...i flashed superuser and have root...i flash the stock recovery from the ics ruu and now when i run jbear this is what i get...

======== ControlBear version 0.2.1 for JuopunutBear S-OFF ==========

Old beer detected...... Please wait......

Starting up......

Waiting device

Backing up......

Transferring backups....

Backup ok!!

Using eMMC dev /dev/block/mmcblk0

Using MMC dev /dev/block/mmcblk1

Boot partition is /dev/block/mmcblk0p22

Recovery partition is /dev/block/mmcblk0p23

Is information correct? You have 5 seconds time to press CTRL+C

Finding some beer.....

Found first....

Found second....

Found third....

Found fourth....

Hmmmm... where is that last one....... Wait a sec....

JuopunutBear is ready to go....

Rebooting.......

Waiting device....

oh and i'm stuck on the green arrows...
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
this is the exact same place im stuck in. i thought i was the only one.
[HTC Amaze 4G] djdeviance:
I believe it was mentioned a couple times that S-Off could possibly be impossible to get if ICS RUU was flashed before gaining S-Off.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Globatron has confirmed it will work after updating.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Amiganaut:
"Where do I get wire from?" Try Radio Shack.

Doesn't anyone keep a roll or two of spare wire and some wire cutters around in their toolkit anymore?
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
All you need is a small coated paperclip with the ends stripped, I did 2 Amaze so far with that. 1st one on 3rd try, 2nd one on 1st try.
[HTC Amaze 4G] djdeviance:
One of those color coated paperclips would work. It's what I used. Strip off about half an inch to an inch of the coating and do NOT touch the uncoated area while making contact and grounding. At least that is what helped me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kaabob:
I used a bread wire tie. Stripped off .5" on each end.

Hard part was getting contact in the pin hole because the end of wire was solid and looked super sharp = small contact area.

So... I held the pin hole contact in-place while I pressed/lift off 1.75 seconds/pressed the microSD cage (GND)

Once I heard the windows USB plug sounds i knew I had made good contact.

Got it on the second try =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] coupetastic-droid:
Well, I went to through the relocking, reflashing ics process again and that got the device booting again. I reunlocked it and everything is working fine again. I guess I will try this again later.

But if anyone know why some are getting stuck at this point and will share it would be appreciate it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
For those stuck on green arrow scren, read my previous post.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Okay I FINALLY got it to work and I didn't lose anything on my ext sd card! What a nightmare! I did finally decide to do what the OP says (duh!) and uninstalled HTC Sync from my computer. Then I moved the ControlBear folder to the root of my C drive. Then I ran task manager and shut down adb. I got my wire ready once again and did a few practice runs. I ran ControlBear as admin and did the wire trick. I listened for the sound and took it out, tried to count one one thous...but screwed up...old age..lol. Never got past "found device." Frozen on that screen. Had to run ControlBear again. Got an exit error so I unplugged usb cable, took battery out and fastboot screen came up again. Plugged cable back in and ran ControlBear again. Did better this time on wire trick but still off. Got error but this time just re-ran Controlbear. This time I was steady and ready. I waited for the sound, let go of ground counting one one thou and immediately retouched ground for just an INSTANT. That did the trick. When I saw "sunny day" I was still leary but waited and sure enough, there was S-OFF!! When I rebooted, everything was back to normal!

As everyone says, timing is critical and you should/must uninstall HTC sync and also shut down adb in task manager before you run ControlBear. Doing it right by the letter this time only took 3 times. Now for those of you who have failed miserably and managed to get your phone working again, hopefully Revolutionary will eventually come up with a software only solution to s-off for the Amaze like they did with the Sensation. That was a piece of cake!

Thanks team for all your efforts. I know you don't really post here but if you do, just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to exactly figure out the timing for the wire trick? I can't even imagine getting that right with only 1 or 2 phones. I am amazed!!!:D
[HTC Amaze 4G] dcmtnbkr:
I got this after my third try. I honestly wouldnt use a twist tie. That's what i tried at first and couldnt get it to work. As soon as i switched to an actual wire, it worked just fine on the first try.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Pretty scary wasn't it xologist? I freaked out when my phone froze and thought the end was near. then I recovered back to Energy and was relieved. Then, this morning, after reading new posts and especially the

original

post about uninstalling HTC Sync and ending the adb process, I thought what the heck. Luckily it worked that time. Even Glacierguy freaked out! At least we got it. I'm not going to install ICS until Energy comes up with a good custom ROM which may be a while because of a deodexing issue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] djxspike:
This is what I used...
[HTC Amaze 4G] silvscorp:
I used a wire just like above post with original instruction succeeded on 1st try. Whole process took less than 5mins..
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrimage:
i am stuck on the green arrow and i cant get to install no rom are nothing on my phone, any help please it wont boot are nothing

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can you tell me how you do it, thanks
[HTC Amaze 4G] ryuken11221:
If you go to the ics leak thread all you need to know is right there. Theres alit of p that had the same problem you had and got everything back up the instructions are in that thread you just have to search for it
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
The below is what you need to do: