yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mondechristo1:
I just tasted your ROM. I really liked the performance but I have to go back to my previous ROM because I have the same problem I had with an old version of your rom. My phone looses the GSM signal. Sometimes is OK and sometimes the signal triangle is empty! That am I doing wrong? Other people doesn't report a problem like that. :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Because its not a prob its just the pngs after theme change or low signal that's all
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mondechristo1:
I don't have low signal in my home. And this problem happens only with your ROM. What do you suggest me to do? What is "pngs"? Sorry for the "noobness"!:D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
The imgs you see being drawn are called pngs but since u ask such q I have to leave it there
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] FTW_260:
Great ROM... Flash it 5 hour ago - perfect! :good: Waiting fix camera...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
I guess Neo V has 4.1.1 AOKP isn't it?

All,

This kernel supports USB OTG features?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mavado:
In de Neo dev section an update was released today/yesterday for AOKP 4.1.1, But for Neo V there's no update yet....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Why don't you guys just flash it since there is no camera there is nothing to go wrong is there only change would be build prob easy rember xda is dev site not for q&a
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
Is there any way I can flash kernel without fast boot. My phone,though enters fast boot, is not detected by as a fast booted device. Any way to install kerneld
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BombayBoy:
Use flash tool. I use it since unlocking bootloader.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mavado:
@chris

Installing neo version now.... To eager to try.... Jb is so much smoother then ics. Maybe only post patch here? Then only one device needs to be maintained.... If camera and build.prop are different.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] FTW_260:
Waiting update or patch for MT11... :o
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] demolatorul:
Try to download fastboot drivers for your pc
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
update AOKP jb for neo V..

kernel = http://www.mediafire.com/?763lp4p0yjeplde

rom = http://www.mediafire.com/?oi213utnkn8smmh

wifi tether should fix in this.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] leajian:
Will this be of some use? : http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...roid_tutorial/how-to-use-the-hidden-hdmi-api/
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] tanmays:
Flashed the new JB ROM.

No camera preview. And this time... Camera ICS+ and Instagram also don't show any preview and causes immediate hot boot. Disabling HW overlays doesn't help either.

Anyone facing same problems?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Camera not implemented u know that ,

Things are changing and underdevelopment stuff may break when fix something else

Sent from da GT-I9300 using xda premium
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] voyteckst:
Rather not, because it's how to use HDMI API in apps.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
Is this new kernel as well? Im using aokp jb kernel already. Is it enough to flash the rom?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] xferianeov:
difference

Whats the major difference except for camera between neo v and neo version???(i really dont use camera and newayz its buggy)

hatoffs to the developer who solved apps2sd issue :good:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
Thats bit different from previous specially in wifi part, much close to fxp135.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
Hi All,

This is the first time i m trying AOKP and I installed the JB kernel and the JB rom., (not the latest one though). I really love the rom. Except the few issues, everything looks fine. Unless there is no other fix for those issues, i've to switch back to one of ICS roms (probably AOKP, if it doesn't have any such issues).

1. Camera preview is n't working. It just shows some lines. I know that this bug was reported already. hence i tried to install Camera ICS from Market. But market force closes. Even i try to go play store from computer and install it from there, it doesn't work. Even then Google play store force closes.

Install Camera FV 5 from one of backup APK but this app restarts itself from the boot logo (im supposing it is wat called Hot boot). Camera is the one thing i need in my phone after internet and music ( more important than calls ;) ). Any fix for this?

2. Google play force closes.

3. Low in call volume. I know there is a solution for deleing audio lib policy file. Is it the one present in System/lib? Did it work for anyone?

4. not able to install/restore few apps from Titanium backup. Example XDA free app. Im not able to install it at all. Is it due to some Dalvik cache errors? i had this once on KA21 rom and fixed somehow by clearing Dalvik cache i guess.

If these issues are not solvable, i will be installing AOKP. Do anyone know if these issues aren't there in AOKP ICS?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] xferianeov:
flash new rom

you should flash the latest rom and kernel

because these great developers kormatoes, bulook00, have eventually solved all the problems(2,3,4) except for the camera
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mondechristo1:
Is there a problem with the kernel's link in OP ?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BombayBoy:
No problem, could be due to ISP.

For one's who want a stale AOKP ICS, think no further than MS6 compiled by TenD. No problems which I encountered while using.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
Maybe something with link, go nowhere with phone browser this kernel link http://www.mediafire.com/?763lp4p0yjeplde
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] xRemingtonx:
Can i change font on this rom ?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
Thanks a lot. Is there any camera app that can work with this. Cos, Camera is the one thing i can't live without but neither im able to compromise JB and its smoothness for that.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mopkl:
@up Camera Ilusion
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] petrosdk:
What about google play?? I run the latest aokp jb
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
It fix i can search and download from market, unless if use ics gapps
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] petrosdk:
Didn't understand you..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Use different rom we should not have to repeat our self's

Keep up or keep out
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] djsky2011:
Great job team, I'm currently working on adobe flash work around will let u know how that gets on
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] prasan2014:
Camera illusion does work but gives hot boot sometimes.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kozer1986:
Except the known bugs,which are meaningless compare to the smooth of this rom,everything is perfect!!A big BIG thanks to the devs for making this possible!!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Elessar76:
What changes in wifi part? Is related to general JB known bug where wifi sometimes disconnects in deep sleep?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
Track change in fxp, since fxp134&135 add fix in wifi tether and different net driver, and cant use with fxp133 as different methode in ramdisk,

for disconnecting in deep sleep, just like cm10..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] petrosdk:
Too many bugs the JB v2..installed pureness again buti w8 for an update of you guys..i still think that aokp I smoother..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Elessar76:
Thx
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] xferianeov:
bugs really

What sort of bugs brother??

except for camera everything is working so well man, what else wud anyone want :p
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] petrosdk:
Google play.... :thumbdown:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mpiekp:
Guys thank you.

Another stable, barn storming release.

Awesome
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] palimatix:
Are you high on cocaine or something ? You understand you are the lone one with that issue

Sent from my MT11i
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] petrosdk:
If I was high on cocaine I would be happy!!! xD ok ok...as you wish...:P
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Your missing the fact u can fix it with creating a folder in data/here called download

Also its already been fixed

Make sure u have installed Google play by flashing gapps for jellybean

saying stuff don't work in a dev thread should be a instant blank from us

Ensure u actually have the newest version and newest kernel and gapps

Then post what u tryed be as brief as poss

And rember only week 2:

ICS took 6 months to be fully working
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mopkl:
Go to system/lib and delete liboverlay.so or in developer settings disable hw overlays.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] prasan2014:
Will give it a try & let you know. Anyways thanks for the info. Much appreciated

Edit : it is working like a charm but if you play too much with the settings of the app then it gives hot boot.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
hi all,

I am using AOKP MS6 ICS with ms6 kernel specified. im thinking to partition the card to use Link2SD. But does this support Ext 4? Or only ext2? where can i find all the features of this kernel?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Reck1993:
Fat32 work all

Sent from Cambodia The Kingdom of Wonder.....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] motorazrv3:
Confirm. Fat32 works on all kernels. It's the standard that's supported by all kernels.

Send from my Neo V with JJHybrid 3.3b and Night Elf 1.4 using Tapatalk 2
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
got many bug cos mix it up with old kernel or other, and say that you have latest one..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] th3discodancer:
Issues with WiFi. Doesnt turn on at all. Will re-flash and report. Latest build and kernel btw, BB 70.

EDIT: Cant find a workaround for wifi.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
I SEE that all tie apps (messaging/contacts ] have the background as the pic used as

Wallpaper. This makes the fonts almost unreadable. Is it possible that we can use a plain image like full black or full white as background?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] th3discodancer:
Use a previous build, rather than the upgrade/TenD's build with latest PNG's.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
Thank you. The same applies to bravia engine? I don't see that option in display.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] th3discodancer:
Bravia Engine is a SEMC feature, you wont have that option in non-stock ROMs[ aosp,aokp, cm9, cm10 etc]
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mpiekp:
Here's a hint for audiophiles, beats from the market works with jb, just don't use dsp manager, if you already have clear data from app before use.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Bravia engine omg

Xperia Neo using xda premium
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] specialistas4:
Hmm what archive from the gapps should i download?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
This kernel not seem to support usb otg feature. I even used usb otg helper app from shardul . But it dint detect the drive. Is there any kernel that goes with this Rom and support otg?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] djsky2011:
Under development means some parts may not work why can't u guys just be patient. Fookin hell
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] specialistas4:
Solved :)

Just flashed the rom, it's pretty good so far.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] rakmth:
There is a module for that

Shardul had released a OTG modules zip specifically for FXP kernels. Worked on FXP roms, CM9 and AOKP MS6. Didn't try it on JB!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
what kernel? what rom? must matching between kernel and rom for wifi to work,,
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] senthilrameshjv:
I'm using ics Rom and kernel and since it is milestone 6 I thought most of them would've been addressed already. Sorry for the presumption.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
some report it work for few brand of drive with low power.

open terminal and type dmesg you see it detect usb drive but ics dont allow config due power consumption,
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] petrosdk:
I flashed the JB rom with the recommended kernel..very nice and smooth so far..i posted some bugs before but it was my mistake..sry guys, devs.. it has the only known camera bug but i think it will be fixed soon..great job! one question..i installed the xperia keyboared ( via CWM ) and i cannot find it in the settings...any solution?? Nice work btw..!!

---------- Post added at 07:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:41 PM ----------

Solved!!! I flashed the Xperia S keyboard !! :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] th3discodancer:
ROM and kernel, both, from the first post. Not a noob, nor a dev. worked on it for 2-3 hours, tried several reflashing, but wifi didnt work. Switched to CM10, wifi was on before i switched it on, lol.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
I don't know why it doesn't work with you,

btw.. I'm a noob not a dev too,
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mpiekp:
Lol bul ;)

Seems to be gapps issue, flash ROM activate WiFi flash gapps, seems to work.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] sanzNya:
first impression with the new one... ITS AWSOOOMMMEEE...!!!!!!

with no cam for now... its okey... but. with wifi and wifi tether work. its awsome for me... :D

big-big thanks to chris and team for this rom... im very like it... thanks guys... :)

#EDIT :

Thanks to mr.luqmant too...:D

Nuhun nya mas... alus rom na.. :P
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
All bulooks work here

dam man now I to must work on tether now
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] strefa510:
For me not upload the. stop at the flashing logo unicorn. I tried the 1.4 kernel allince and specified by you.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mpiekp:
:Face palm:

Now read the thread again, and see where you went wrong.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Lol common

For me not upload / its already uploaded:eek:

Stopped at flashing logo unicorn/ OK:thumbdown:

Itryed 1.4 kernel alliAnce use only aokp or cm 10 ONLY

SPECIFIED WHERE ?:banghead:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] sanzNya:
As korm saying above. Flash providing kernel mate...:)

sent by tapatalk via super xperia Neo
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] palimatix:
Someone should hold a Google hangout session and give a one time demo of how to flash a successful rom every time.. following basic steps and upload in YouTube Lol..

Sent from my Neo V
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
I don't know why people even ask

We say enough not for noobs lol

If they need to ask its not for them !

But still good idea !!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] specialistas4:
After using the rom about 2 days, i think that it is very good. It's smooth with great customizations. But i wouldlike to report a problem. When using youtube app the phone goes reboot. I would like the rom more if it was a little more battery friendly. Thanks for your hard work guys!:)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
I would I want bla bla

Always same

Don't mistake us for Sony
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] tanmays:
Hey Buddy! I understand that these repeating requests by new users are sometimes irritating. But as the developer of a good ROM you have indeed raised the expectation of most of the users (or noobs as some people call them) to a higher level.

I would like to bring some major confusions to your notice. The first few posts where you have provided links to the ROM (behind images I think) is quite confusing. The links are hard to find and there is no clear instruction how to install/flash this ROM and the related kernel. Even initially I, myself got really confused about which one to flash. I am quite sure that most of the new users are messing up with their installation due to these confusions.

I don't think it's a good idea to tell people that if you don't understand what we are doing, then this ROM is not for you. Being a developer at XDA, people will surely expect you to help them and their requests/bug reports will help you develop a good useful ROM which will be admired by most of the Neo/NeoV AOKP users.

Further JB on Neo V is in it's alpha stage. Most users don't understand this and think that all the ROMs are fully working. They simply download and flash the ROM without reading the 100+ pages of discussion on what's working and what's not. I would request to all new users to do their homework before flashing a ROM and refrain themselves from posting frequent requests. If a feature is requested/bug is reported you need not to repeatedly post on those bugs. This increased the length of the thread and make the thread more confusing.

Once again thanking you for this beautiful work. Good luck.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bluestricker_21:
+1
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] specialistas4:
+1000
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BombayBoy:
1-800-@#$%

This will be Post # 767 on Page 77.

Its easy to ask for this, that, x,y & then expecting to be spoon fed :(

i aint trying to be one up here.... but even i started with build 40 & never had issues like search for kernel, links to download....

korm has been kind enough to explain the changes he put up when the downloads will be in the images that you see, time & again

bulook came in with his efforts and made a wonderful JB ROM & kernel with most features needed for the phone to work

TenD did a good compile for our neo V

JB has come & we are yet to reach 100 pages. so no question of reading through a 100 pages :mad:

its just not fair to come on a developers site & expect them to put up things like tech-support 1-800-help me install this

Chris has also time and again told that due to time limitations & real life & jobs at hand it is not possible to pay heed to i want this-that types of queries.... he even gave us all his gmail so you can talk to him, mail him with your queries, logs & he does fix or provide something thats needed

he did it for me..... and we arent paying him & neither is he asking for donations.....

for ROM installation, just download the kernel/ROM and flash them.... i learnt it the hard way.... bootloop at 2 AM & was going around frantically in the forum for help & was helped by georgejulian & Aarush..... the point is we got to learn..... and not ask to be spoon fed all the time....

sorry Chris for one more off topic post, but i think that your & the teams work is already highly appreciated & expecting too much of help is just....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Then I suggest you to take over threads the way it is for a reason If u don't understand things that's not my problem I /we make these work on neo \v for our self's first off not for u or anyone else

We just happen to do it in open

if you wont to use OK but don't

Give me ,what you think I should do,write ,explain ,

Send me messages like ..bro its important I need help ,,u there,,u there,,u,there,,,,,,

..will u mod this to look like this ...can u change this for my dad in a total difernt ROM ,,,,

Common I'm just same ass u lot

I'm no dev just a moder

And 3 things

ROM (click picture) kernel (click pic) gaps(click pic) how hard is that

So +1 all u like

don't like it find a different host :rolleyes:

Use second post ics 4.0.4

Let use get on with jb

You will get, what we get, when we get it!

Or do your self's

Peace ahhh:banghead:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
1 2 3 easy as that and still complaints

Why we even bother
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] SHIRI:
Maybe because all of other people who appreciate and try and test... :confused:

Don't be so dissapointed bro :silly:

:good::cool:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] juninromualdo:
Chris did not know if it can help with anything, but the application was jb camera with the same bug, preview, and was updated and solved this problem.

Send from my turbinado Xperia Neo V using xda premium
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] sanzNya:
Ths rom is really my birthday ''cake''..:D

After 48hours w/ ths. And havent met ''big'' issue (bside bug thats all we known).

Its really great... thanksfull for the dev's...:D

sent by tapatalk via super xperia Neo
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
What if full WiFi tether, and can turn on/off or change state without need reboot.

:D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] sanzNya:
Saya traktir mkn siang dh om luqmant...:D

Throw it to me. I'll be so happy...:D

sent by tapatalk via super xperia Neo
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] demolatorul:
Using the rom from yesterday and i have to say that is preety darn good even for an alfa release ,for the guys that were complaining about bugs please i have to recall that this is alfa , it doesn't have 2 weeks so c'mon. Thanks chris ,bulook ,td and all others who helped
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
update test aokpjb

update test aokpjb rom.

kernel can use in op first post or use fxp135/fxp136

rom : deleted

wifi tether fix.

for camera in built still no preview and can use ucam/camera zoom fx/camera illusion. (not long test but work)

Edit: ROM bit buggy
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kozer1986:
I have this kernel http://www.mediafire.com/?763lp4p0yjeplde

with the @up rom..(04/09)

Fm radio not working + Google now exits when i try to open it.

I flashed this rom with full wipe..

Is anyone else with these problems or is it only me?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bulook00:
FM radio audio out only trough headset, for Google now, try to figure it out what cause it.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kozer1986:
Of course i tried out with headset before posting...;)

So i suppose its just me...I ll try reflash...

Hmmm...Strange...After reflashing everyrthing is ok!!!!Thanks bulook00!!!!!!!!

Nah!!!After update in google voice from market,google now closes suddenly...I ll switch to 30-8....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] sanzNya:
Yeyy... finally...:D

Thanks luqmant...:)

sent by tapatalk via super xperia Neo
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] JN3141:
I know Chris has said specifically for no links, but I hope this can be let slide. It's for a petition someone in the Xperia Mini forums started to open-source the camera libs:

http://www.groubal.com/jb-camera-libs-for-all-sony-xperia-2011-phones/

I can't see why it can hurt to just sign it, so please, sign it :P
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] gleybert:
BLUETOOTH

não funciona

Does not work
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] juninromualdo:
This well written post at the beginning of what is working. And by the way bluetooth is not working.

Esta escrito bem no inicio do post o que está funcionando. E pelo jeito bluetooth não está funcionando.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] pwx123:
Hi,

does the wifi hotspot work on this ROM & Kernel?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] sspoko:
I did not tested this but i think yes, bluetooth and camera recording is not wroking for sure.

Waiting for upload:D and GL
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] emannxperia:
Got AOKP 4.0.4 Milestone 5 running on my Neo V.:D

Mostly all working except for video recording.

Download link will be ready tomorrow.

Edit: Also you can add theme to it yourself.

Edit2: Wifi still not working..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
U still based on play or complete Neo stuff
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] sspoko:
Waiting for link :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Jean-DrEaD:
Any news about this port? ;D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] emannxperia:
Still on hold..

Could not get wifi to works..

Right now, still working with I-Scream, so this one have to wait.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] DeathCzar:
Man finish i-scream build 11 and fix this. I like your ROMS. And it will be nice to see this fixed
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] emannxperia:
build 2 is ready for download..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] talhah sabri:
downloading now :)

did it have theme chooser?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mavado:
Installing now. Thnx.

Result:

Tried FXP119 and R2aokp kernels, but titanium backup failed to get root access.....?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] emannxperia:
Flash this: https://www.box.com/shared/145b4950d3c2cf9ff391

sent from my digital typewriter
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Aarush:
Wifi tether working in this rom?

Sent from my Xperia neo V
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] palimatix:
not sure but as far i can recollect the AOKPs don't have that for the time being