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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
When Google makes it to z then... apple will have been bought out and it will simply be iandroid.

bow chicka wow wow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DrKaotica:
All our phones self destruct and the universe ends
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thephantom:
^^^^^ this. Hahahaha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AndIKnow:
Going by ancient Mayan knowledge the world's gonna blow this December. We'll be lucky to even reach the Jellybean update :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jameslepable:
most likely just name it from something other than sweets.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zetsumeikuro:
Project Glass!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] killyouridols:
Oh god. I'm sure people will moan its not Gorilla Glass still........:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reflux21:
Before that Apple will sue Google because it resembles Steve jobs glasses too closely and from a viewing distance looks the same. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reflux21:
Looks like we are lucky enough :D now hoping for key lime pie
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] moeahmad1995:
Google won't have to worry about what to name android. Apple should be scared because they are running out of lions for their os
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragn4rce:
For all we know someone might come out something that will put apple's iOS, android, and WP7 out of business in the smartphone world.

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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] notanoob:
Fruit company

They'll call it andriod .. Like the fruit company :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Zandroid.

butter and jelly please...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
There will be trouble long before Z. What to use for N or O?! :cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
N = nougat bar (or a derivative)

O = orange pop (or a derivative)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Is key lime gonna be a double threat update?

butter and jelly please...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reflux21:
Nope. They will progress naturally. So after K, there will be a L...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
I see no issue with Android space <version number>

Sent from my i9250
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Android 29.6 Gingerbean and 31.4 Ice Cream Ginger? :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] htcmodteam:
As I can understand the xt910 in Europe doesn't have 4g but is this just hardware that's not being used. And will it be active with a update

I ask because the us version has 4g lte is it a totally different phone.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Even if they activated the latent LTE chip, its supported frequency would be useless in Europe. :)

Sent from my Motorola Electrify
[Motorola Droid RAZR] htcmodteam:
Just wondering as ipad 4g is same world wide is it not
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MattyOnXperiaX10:
I think you'd need dual band for a phone to be able to use both. Correct me if i am wrong
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Most certainly not. LTE is far from having worldwide standard bands, and it currently looks like the closest to a standard will be 1800mhz rather than the 700mhz Verizon uses. :)

Have a look for the wonderful marketing blunder Apple made by selling the iPad as a 4G device in Australia where the only LTE network is Telstra's on 1800mhz.

There's also issues like TD-LTE vs. the other standard I forget the name of right now.

Sent from my Motorola Electrify
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pedrotorresfilho:
2,5Ghz LTE will be used in Brazil because 700Mhz frequency is dedicated for TV broadcasting. Experts says 700Mhz is better because uses less antennas and are more compatible with actual devices, like vrz ones. Hope they change their minds in time. :/

Source (it's in portuguese, google translate it): http://info.abril.com.br/noticias/tecnologia-pessoal/4g-no-brasil-sera-feito-as-pressas-dizem-analistas-13042012-34.shl?2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ejay010:
Hello

I have a question that has been bothering me and I cant figure out the answer. As I am a noob I have not yet gained the knowledge to understand where most of these tutorials that i have found online are starting at. My question is "How do I port a CDMA rom to GSM".

I am trying to get the Droid Razr Eclipse rom which is a CDMA rom, to work on my GSM phone. I also would like to be able to make some small adjustments to the rom as well. Like for example. On the stock rom for the droid razr I have the ability to control my music from the lock screen however on this rom, the eclipse rom, I cant do that I must unlock the phone, and then change the song, which is a hassle if i i am driving or playing video games. I also would like to be able to change the look of the calender app that comes with this rom. because I feel that is a bit too bulky for my taste. Other than those three problems the rom is great.

I hope I am not offending the creator of this rom by asking how i can change things in it please forgive me. However thats all I would like to change other than that the rom is great.

I would be greatly appreciated if I can receive an answer asap

Thank you,

The Noob ejay010
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
This is the thread you want: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1495884

Read it thoroughly. :)

Sent from my Motorola Electrify
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotnh:
when i wake up in morning i checked my phone

first i thought that battery has finished and i put it in charger then after half an hour ichecked back it still smae its not turning on later i changed the battery with my friend to check whether if the battery is the problem nothing happened

i m using android custom rom is there anyway to restore my phone....
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phre5k:
Have you tried holding the power button for like 20 seconds? Should do a reset.

I also think that this topic would better be in "Android Q&A".
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotnh:
tanx for the solution will try it now...

...

its not working..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
Anyone try out the Ubuntu Installer on the Play Store with the TFP( link below ) I wanna give it a go but was wondering what other peoples experience with it is first. I saw there is a way to run Ubuntu nativly on our device, but it seems like it may be a bit 'new' ( as in driver support etc... ) which I'd be ok with, but the dual boot process seems like a pain to have to change the boot image everytime you want to use it...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ubuntuinstallpaid&feature=more_from_developer
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
Hi

Yes, I have been messing wth it since I got my Prime a few months ago (running Linux on it was the reason I bought in the first place). Like you, the native stuff seems a little too "fresh" and the risk of a brick a bit too much.

Anyway, the Linux Installers Zac is doing can work well on the Prime. There is an issue with the Ubuntu 12.04 Unity at present which I have not been able to figure out as I can't deal with Unity for longer than bout 60 seconds before reaching for Xfce anyway.

I have had good results using the Ubuntu 12.04 image and installing Xfce. The VNC client you choose makes a huge difference. I have found Jump Desktop by far the best (middle and right mouse buttons, scroll wheel, dock keyboard all work great) and it is quite close to using it natively.

The real downer with the chroot methods is there does not appear to be any way to do it except by running the GUI/X as root while in Ubuntu. Not really a workable option for any long term use. This is down to how Android handles permissions and the use of TCP/UDP ports. If you try to run the VNC server as anything other than root you just get a permission failure. I have not been able to figure out a way around this yet.

Worth the download to try it out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TheWerewolf:
I'd like to ask a serious question here.. and I'm not trying to put down Ubuntu or anything - if you're into Linux, it's a good choice...

But..

*Why* would someone want to take an Android tablet and install an OS that's not really tablet friendly on it? What's the benefits?

Unless you plan to keep it in the dock all the time - then why not just buy a netbook?

What am I missing here?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
You don't have to take two devices with you if you have Ubuntu installed on Transformer. If you had a tablet AND a netbook the weight would be doubled... Netbooks also have poor screens and probably less battery life.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
Versatility, choice, and because we can :)

Android is great for some things but a lot of what I do would be much better done in a Linux environment. The Prime has replaced my laptop, and having a dual boot option would make it pretty much the perfect piece of kit for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Danny-B-:
I didnt realise this was available !

I will be giving it a go as soon as i get home!!

Would prefer a native install, but this looks pretty easy and quick to do, so i'll give it a shot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gruinelli:
And another nice thing we are not able to use because of missing root rights :(

I really hope somebody finds and publishes a new way to gain root. (without unlocking)

Running Linux on it was also a reason for my to chose the Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
Great comments all... Personally I want Linux on the Prime for some of the reasons above ( portability, not having to carry two machines, "because we can" lol ) however I mostly want it because it should offer a much better development environment on the Prime which would be great. Still haven't gotten it up and running yet, but bought everything I need, should be able to play today :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] justPorter:
will installing ubuntu thru this app break future ota updates? I do have root, but i only use it for a working ipsec vpn right now
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nonpaq:
Anyone having problems unzipping the beta Ubuntu 12.04 Full V1 download to get the image file? I've tried various unzip tools, and multiple download attempts, and it always comes up corrupt. The 12.04 small works fairly well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
Haven't tried that one yet, gonna start with 10.10 large, then move to 12.04 after...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kidio007:
Do you have to unlock prime to use this? I have root, but it says something about needing kernel or something on the app.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
No it shouldn't have any affect. It does not touch anything outside of /data/local (or wherever you install the ubuntu.img file - could be your sdcard) - no system files are changed.

---------- Post added at 04:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:21 PM ----------

I think there was an issue with the Full V1 file. The dev re-uploaded today so you might try it again. However, the default Unity interface on Full does not seem to work on the Prime for whatever reason (Tegra 3 differences it has been said) so it might not be worth the effort until that is fixed. Firefox also does not work (I have never got Firefox of Chrome to work on any of these builds)

The older Ubuntu version (10.10 was it?) works fine, except Firefox just crashes, and Midori is the only currently working browser

---------- Post added at 04:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:24 PM ----------

Your kernel needs to support the loop device which is the way that the ubuntu.img file gets "mounted" on the system. I dont recall if the stock kernel supports this but I would be surprised if it doesn't
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nonpaq:
Stock kernel apparently has the loop device, as I have been able to run Ubuntu on stock (rooted of course).

Thanks for info on new upload of 12.04 full. Didnt you say you installed Xfce and 12.04 worked well?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
Yes, Xfce I find works well. Just did not know how much effort you might be willing to put into it :)

Bit of advice - don't use "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to change to Xfce. That wants to install a ton of stuff that is not needed. Just try installing the the meta package "xfce4" and then add the other bits you want. I then removed the Unity desktop and it booted straight in to Xfce.

Edit: Actually, in this 12.04 image doing "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" does not appear to be as bad. A previous image wanted to download 750Mb of stuff!

Edit2: Oh, and to get xfce loading instead of Unity, you need to edit /root/.vnx/xstartup and change the last line:

/etc/X11/Xsession

to be

startxfce4

..then restart the linux chroot by typing exit
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
Great info :) I have the 10.10 full image up and running and Firefox does seem to be working fine for me "out of the box". Think I'm going to try the 12 image and Xfce next.

Anyone have any optimization tips and tricks to get this running as fast as possible? I'm trying the Jump VNC client, seems pretty nice, just need to get some kind of gesture to hide the tablets nav bar as it covers the screen.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mangala_Dharma:
Hey Barryflanagan, I'm playing with Zac's images and I am wondering if you got ubuntu to read any external storage media plugged into the dock : like sdcard or usb external drive. I don't know if it's because of the dock proper, or ubuntu, or chroot, but I got the prime on ubuntu to read microsd on the prime proper but nothing routing through the dock..

As to why I'd want both linux and android, most of the time I'm fine with android, sometimes with the dock sometimes without. I don't have a laptop anymore and 2 weeks ago I happened to get to my first need that android couldn't handle: I have to trim and clean 10 000+ files of music library with many copies and variations by file names, lengths, quality, and tags, and to pick the good tracks manually, and nothing on the android's ecosystem is as good or useful as mediamonkey. I've had to borrow a laptop from somebody to get the job done. I'm pretty sure in linux I could have found a working application-- if the usb hard drive for those 70gigs could have been recognized through the dock. Anyway -- also, some more intensive work like the occasional flyer or poster I design for friends.

By the way, have anyone tried to get Wine working on the chroot ubuntu? Maybe with kernel overclocked to 1.8 it might work?

Sent from my LG-P500 using my Dog
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kidio007:
Is it possible to run Ubuntu offline, like without VNC, or do you need internet to use it? I followed the instructions on the app and connected with vnc. I would rather use splashtop and connect to my desktop if ubuntu cant be run offline.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
I'm confused as to what you're asking. Technically, Ubuntu is running offline. You're only connecting to the GUI over VNC. You do not need internet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kidio007:
Ah, I see. But what use has ubuntu without the GUI? I'm obviously new to this, but I assumed that you could use the ubuntu OS offline. Like open and use programs like open office. How would you be using ubuntu if you were at a place without internet?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
This is running pretty great so far, I'm impressed... That being said have several questions, which I will probably have to post in another more general topic, but thought I'd post here in case anyone has tried or has experience with this.

1.) Was wondering if anyone has gotten a "one click launch" working, I know there is a boot widget, which I use, and I've looked at the shell script, but I'm not sure what else would have to be edited or where the vnc files are for doing the following:

a.) Check to see if a running instance of Ubuntu is already up, if not do steps B and C, if it's already running then do step D

b.) Run the shell script like it does normally currently

c.) Choose some default settings for screen size and window manager ( ie. 1280 x 800 and Gnome ) automatically so you don't have to do this each time

d.) ( Ideally although not sure if it can be done ) launch the VNC client of your choice after terminal is done launching ubuntu

2.) Was wondering where files for the Ubuntu OS are kept if you have the img and shell script files in /sdcard/ubuntu. Would like to add some aliases, and customizations to the OS

3.) Can we switch to the bash shell by default Vs. sh? Or will that break anything? Would we just put that in the profile of the linux user? or in /etc/profiles?

4.) I know Ubuntu is being run as the root user, this worries me quite a bit, and although I don't think there is a work around, is there anything that can be done about this? What are some steps to secure the system if any are available? Changing the VNC Password? SSHD is started up correct? Can / Should this password be changed as well.

Anyways, like I said, might be best for a topic just on this app in Android General, but thought I'd see if it gets traction here first.

Oh ... and a "I know this probably wont work because we are 'remoted' in( through loopback ofcoarse )" but anyone try to get compiz working, lol

EDIT: After some pawing around on the mounted FS it looks like my above questions for 1 - A,B, and C can be accomplished by editing the init.sh shell script in the root home directory. You can override the prompting for geometry and shell if you wish here. I'll have to do some investigation on how the widget calls this init script, would be nice to have two small widgets one that prompts and one that just assumes the tablets resolution as the default for quick launch.

EDIT: As for 1 - D and question 2 & 3 not sure on those yet, still waiting for suggestions and looking around

EDIT 2: Ok answered question 2 ... Looks like everything gets mounted by the boot script ( instructed to put in /sdcard/ubuntu/ ) mounts everything to /data/local/mnt and root home dir is /data/local/mnt/root. Also the boot script chroots to the roots init.sh so that's how that gets launched. Now I'm wondering what happens when I flash a new ROM but keep the sdcard the same, not quite sure how the /data/local/mnt/root and other dirs( other that the remapped system dirs ) are getting mapped to that new mount location.

This is fun, lots of learning...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
I think you're a little confused here. When you run the Ubuntu installer( The one click boot with the app ) it basically mounts whatever storage and img it needs then starts a remoted desktop ( VNC in linux ) session. Then you get a VNC Client off the app store, and you connect to that session to the machine itself. So basically you connect to 127.0.0.1 which is 'localhost' meaning you don't need networking in the terms of "internet access". That being said, if you do have internet access then you can use browsers and such within Ubuntu from withing the remote session( Inside the VNC client )

I'd suggest maybe doing some googling on Ubuntu and VNC and remote sessions to get an idea. It's not too technical, but it'll help you understand what's going on a little better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hairdewx:
Is the performance through VNC good enough to make it a daily use option?

Or is it more or less just a "novelty" in terms of performance?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
Yes, I think it's plenty fast enough for daily use. Now I wouldn't go and replace a whole eclipse development environment or watch movies and probably not music either on this. But it would be fine for a LAMP stack, light image editing, website coding, and obviously a great command line. Try it out, you really only have $1.50 to loose, and I think he has a free version out as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
I find with jump desktop you need to set the vnc screen size to 1270x745 and then it fits perfectly. Most other vnc clients are happy with 1280x750
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nonpaq:
Ok, new download of 12.04 loaded.

It took me a moment to realize that I just needed to enter the commands (like "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ) in the actual terminal running Ubuntu on android , and I did not need a terminal within the VNC (couldnt find one anyway). The "xubuntu-desktop" package downloads 250 mb.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RubenRybnik:
1280 x 800 works ok for me with jump desktop, but I use GestureControl to hide the nav bar which is really nice, gives you a true full screen experience.

Does anyone know how to backup the install so if you reflash a ROM or factory reset or anything to that matter it wont loose what pacages you've installed and your personalized settings( like aliases etc... )? Can we just switch the mount points to be /sdcard/mnts instead of /app/local/mnts? Where do those custom mounted files live ( like the root home directory ) after you stop the ubuntu instance from running( exiting the terminal emulator or rebooting your machine for instance? )

Again, going to move this thread to android q&a if we can't find answers here, I'll post a link to that thread here if I end up having to do that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
Must try out gesture control.

The Ubuntu install is self-contained in ubuntu.img, so you can just copy that file to a USB suck or where ever.

If you repartition your microsd card and make an ext3 partition on it, you can also extract the contents of the img to that ext3 partition and then change the ubuntu.ah script to mount that instead of the .img file. Then you have a nice portable install.

I haven't run any speed tests to see if one if faster than the other
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
HI

Yes, this can be done. you need to edit the ubuntu.sh file so that it will try to mount /Removable/USBdisk1, and then unmount it again when you exit.

Two things need to be done:

1. Modify the ubuntu.sh script to mount the USB drive

2. Create the actual mount directory inside the ubuntu chroot.

I will attach a modified ubuntu.sh (uploaded as ubuntu.sh.txt, needs to be renamed), but here is what changes were made:

Section which checks what removable devices are present, then mounts it within the ubuntu chroot:

##########################################
#Checks if you have a external sdcard #
#and mounts it if you do #
##########################################
if [ -d /sdcard/external_sd ]; then
busybox mount -o bind /sdcard/external_sd $mnt/external_sd
fi
if [ -d /Removable/MicroSD ]; then
busybox mount -o bind /Removable/MicroSD $mnt/external_sd
fi

if [ -d /Removable/USBdisk1 ] ; then
busybox mount -o bind /Removable/USBdisk1 $mnt/USBdisk1
fi

...in the above, I added the reference to /Removable/USBdisk1

Then ,further down the script, we need to unmount this disk before exiting:

echo "Shutting down Ubuntu ARM"
for pid in `lsof | grep $mnt | sed -e's/ / /g' | cut -d' ' -f2`; do kill -9 $pid >/dev/null 2>&1; done
sleep 5
umount $mnt/sdcard
umount $mnt/external_sd
umount $mnt/USBdisk1

..again, you can see I added the "umount $mnt/USBdisk1".

One more thing you need to do, from WITHIN the ubuntu chroot, is to actually create the /USBdisk1 directory so that the mount will succeed. To do this, first load up your ubuntu chroot using:

sh ubuntu.sh

...and once this has loaded, within the same terminal type:

mkdir /USBdisk1

exit

...you are now back in Android. The next time you load up ubuntu, you should see your external USB stick or HD!

Note however, that the USB disk must be inserted before starting ubuntu. You can't hot plug it.

Wine will not work, because windows requires x86 processor, and will not run on Arm. Wine is not capable of emulating x86 on top of Arm. Whether the upcoming Windows RT (Arm version) can be made to run on non blessed hardware is an open question/