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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pearlbrian:
This is what i don't get though, why not wait and see if Sammy reveals the release date at that event on the 3rd? If i knew for sure the S3 wouldn't be out until August or September i'd preorder the one XL right now. As it is, i don't see the point in pulling the trigger because i'm sure i will be able to snag a one XL the week of release w/o a preorder.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] UMGixxer:
Im debating on preordering mine right now as well but only because its a 2 day difference in which im sure i will be fine getting it on the 6th versus the 4th. Although the deadline to preorder and receive by the 4th is the 2nd.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
+1 I agree here. I think the GNex feels awesome. That's why I stopped using cases, and switched to Ghost Armor.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
^^^^^

This.

The U.S. carriers, in all their wisdom, have the manufacturers make stupid h/w and s/w changes to their all devices. Look at what Sprint's doing to the minimalist design of the One XL. If you look at the i9000 threads vs. the U.S. mutants there weren't nearly the number of issues and s/w updates were plentiful.

The biggest reason for importing a phone is to avoid carrier molestation and get support (and s/w) directly from the manufacturer (if you don't root & ROM).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
I picked the one x over the 3 because i dont want to wait months for it to hit the US.

S4 has integrated LTE, so less battery drain, plus im in a LTE area.

THe design of the one x is stunning.

Sense seems fine to me, i dislike touchwiz. Had the s2 it was ehhhh.... Like someone said, its kinda cartoonish.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] b5t28:
Well I've spent the last 7 months looking at what came out not meeting my criteria, and now that phone has come out and met my criteria I pulled the trigger. Yes, I could wait to see what the S3 is, but then what? I have to wait a few months for it to come out in the US, with no guarantee that it's not exclusive somewhere (Gnexus) or that it's been mutilated (Evo 4g LTE). Then while I'm waiting for that phone to come out the iphone 5 rumors will be a plenty and I'll be stuck in the same situation.. Pull the trigger on the S3 or wait to see the iphone 5.

Oh did I mention I love love LOVE the design of the HOX?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Notnilc:
Girlfriend broke two HTC Arias in the past few months so I'm getting the HOX and giving her my Samsung Infuse.

Note: Infuse had to wait FOREVER to get gingerbread from AT&T. Partly my fault for getting a second rate Samsung phone but I feel shafted by Sammy none the less.

Back to HTC for me... :-)

Edit: LTE data plan bumps my "unlimited" data plan to 5GB before throttle which is pure gold. I hate being throttled for half of the month!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Sorry to weigh in late on this, I was away for the computer.

Of course aluminum body phones weigh more. And while the trendy thing is for phones to be slimmer and lighter, the discussion of weight with phones is ridiculous to me. I'd gladly accept a slight weight difference, for a phone that is more sturdy and durable. We're talking about the difference of maybe a half an ounce (if even that). Its not going to feel much different sitting in your pocket. And if someone has trouble holding up something that weighs 5-6 ounces . . . well, I guess they should exercise more. :-p

I've never noticed a problem with heat on my Desire Z, which has an aluminum back. Hard to really make a direct comparison (metal vs. plastic), as there are too many other differences between various phone models. It makes logical sense that a metal body will get hotter, due to being a better conductor. But on the other hand, it will also dissipate heat into the air more freely than plastic, so there may be some tradeoff. In any case, I don't think the material is enough to make a difference. Much more important for the electronics (CPU, etc.) and battery be designed and manufactured to not cause overheating.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
Ok I'm with you there, 100% agree. Little extra weight for something sturdy.

Now here's my question. What's NOT sturdy about plastic phones? I thought the GSII was fine, and the Gnex is excellent. Feels good, no flex, stays in great condition even with no case, AND it's thin/light. I agree some are lame, but most newer plastic phones are good nuff for me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
Heat's not the issue. It's RF interference. Metals wreak havoc on wireless signals. Look at the Sensation, Prime, and non-3G iPad2. The options for positioning the radios are more limited using metal and weight is added because of additional shielding. That's why there's talk of using ceramic compounds. There's more metal in the SGS2 than the Sensation but it's on the inside where it doesn't create interference; you just can't see it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pearlbrian:
I'm in the same boat man, and if they don't announce a release date that is reasonable on the 3rd then i'm tracking down a One X asap. All i'm saying is i don't see the point pre-ordering when you'll probably know the S3 date before you get the one x anyway.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Depends on the type of plastic, as there are many. I've seen some plastic phone casings that have cracked fairly easily. And some scratch almost instantly. On the other hand, the parts of my Desire Z that are soft-touch plastic hardly show any scratches after almost a year and a half without a case.

On a side note, one aluminum cased device I've been extremely impressed with is the HTC Flyer tablet. It has a powder coat finish (or something similar). And having used the tablet extensively since June, and it doesn't show a scratch. Given, I don't shove it in my pocket and carry it around all day like my phone. But there have been many a time I've placed it on a table, can swear I hear a grinding sound (like some grit between the table and the tablet), but the thing is still pristine as if it were brand new.

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That's a great point, and one I wasn't thinking of. Probably one of the reasons why HTC doesn't make the entire body out of aluminum on many of their devices. They often have some plastic panels here and there.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
touchwiz is also slower, then again i never use stock launchers really.

the only thing i dont get is that lte doesnt have less battery drain ? if anything you would get less battery life compared to "4g". (although youd get faster speeds and for unlimited plans 5gb throttle instead of 2ish"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
I would like to believe we are at the point now where build quality on any of the top tier phones shouldn't be an issue. Personal preference, sure, but no issues. I don't care what they build it out of, as long as it works, and holds up. (and doesn't look overly retarded)

Now design flaws are different. I don't understand how a major company can release a product into the wild with basic features that just plain don't work. That's just piss poor testing/management. (oh but here's this dongle that will give you the functionality, that will be another $$$$)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
I don't think the problem is build quality, I think people mix that up with the quality of the materials and the premium feel they bring. For example, the GSII can take a beating but the plastic feels flimsy.

It's like comparing a plastic cup to a wine glass.(in a non offensive way of course!! I'm not saying that the GSII is a plastic cup, haha)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
Check out these SGS3 preliminary graphics benchmarks. Pretty impressive overhaul of Mali 400. That said, we're getting to the point all of this power is overkill. I'd love a HD tablet with this type of power but how much faster can a video be encoded and how much faster can game play really get on a 4.X" display?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...9364#1-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-with-ARM-Mali-400

And this is supposed to be a shot of it. It looks ceramic and kind of matches the "blobs" on the invitation to the London unveiling.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
Gameplay on a 4" screen? How bout gameplay on a 1920x1080p TV via HDMI cable? It would be awesome to have the equivalent of a PS3 with me at all times. And to me, even though mobile games have come a long way, and some are pretty amazing, they are still "cute" when compared with a PC game. (yes, I want to play Crysis on my phone @60fps, sue me)

I will agree the CPU/GPU/RAM seems to be hitting a point where some other vitals (such as internal storage speed) need to be addressed. But if they are gonna keep doing this every year, and charging the same amount of $$ for these things, I say keep on effing going.

Edit: Aaaaand here we go: http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/25/samsung-announces-1-4ghz-exynos-4-quad-as-basis-for-galaxy-s3/
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
http://phandroid.com/2012/04/25/sam...ynos-4-quad-for-their-next-generation-galaxy/

quadcore A9. Not a dual core A15. That makes me feel more secure with my choice of the One X. I'm sure the GPU will be better, but in regards to cpu it shouldn't be much different.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
I think I'll wait and see the total package + benchmarks before rendering judgment. Luckily the One X arrives the day AFTER Samsung's event. ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] designgears:
Ditto, and Mali400 clocked up... not the Mali6**
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
Mali400? Missed that! I feel even better about my purchase.

Ironically enough, I've never liked Samsung's design (phones, cameras, etc.) but I've bought the captivate and skyrocket. And I've always loved HTC design, but this is my first HTC.

And touchwiz has been cartoonish, I'm still sticking to my statement, lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
yes its cartoonish im with you , you said that in some other post too :)

I do love htc design, acutally this is my first htc smartphone. Their design is unique and clean!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
It really is clean. And and it has nice ergonomic/organic feel to it.

To the picture above, it just looks like shiny plastic back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sschrupp:
I'm still waiting to see what the S3 has to offer personally. I'm tearing my hair out of course, but I think I can resist.

I'm sure they're both going to be monsters as far as general performance goes. The two things that will make the decision for me though will be the camera and the GPS. With my Captivate they both suck horribly.

More and more I find myself wanting to take pictures of things ("Sorry, my phone doesn't take pictures unless we're in broad daylight and there's no wind!") and I've gotten more and more annoyed with the GPS on my Captivate with the various location based apps and going on road trips ("hang on, just waiting for my GPS to lock on... just another minute... almost there I think.... hang on it should be soon.... hmm maybe if I reboot...").
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
And just as I thought, the Exynos4 dosent have embedded LTE so markets like Rogers and AT&T who are pushing LTE will go with the S4 Krait dual core processor... so the same processor as in the OneX HAHAHA. So glad I chose this phone now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] UMGixxer:
Exactly, and based on the specs from that manual cover, it looks to have a 8mp camera as well instead of 12mp

http://www.androidcentral.com/purpo...-service-manual-and-device-render-leak-online
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
so a nexus with a better processer and touchwiz...pass
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] x3phyr:
/thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1620124
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gbrewman:
I have owned all the different galaxy phones since they came out on AT&T. I have to say they have their charm but the One X just seems to be a step above in style and hardware. In all I don't think the SIII will be god's gifts to phones.

One thing I will miss though is try as I might I have yet to brick a samsung phone with the flashing I have done.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] UMGixxer:
I bricked my cappy using odin because the usb cable came out during a process so I had to run to radio shack for some resistors, and now im running ics :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
The design's not as earth shattering as I thought it would be. But I guess there's only so much you can do when the screen *is* the device. If it's ceramic the look and feel could be unique. If it's plastic, so far, it looks like an evolved version of Samsung's existing phones.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] luigic81:
I am tempted to pre order my One x, but the only thing holding me back is the locked bootloader. I havent been able to find too much information, but is this something that could hold back root access and development for quite some time??

Thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
Nope.. you go to htcdev.com to gain bootloader access to your device, but you void your warranty
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NextNexus:
According to that site you don't void your warranty. Your warranty just doesn't cover issues that may arise as the result of unlocking your bootloader (ex: overheating caused by overclocking).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] luigic81:
Great thanks for the info guys!

so assuming I unlock it through the htc site, then I'm assuming root access will only be a few short days after the phone drops woohoo! Sounds good, gunna get my pre order on!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slegrand:
I was actually waiting for the Galaxy S3 but what pushed me over to HTC was two things one I really like the design of the One X. I had just completely wrecked my iPhone 4S and was looking at the Galaxy Note or S3 but in the end I ended up purchasing now for several reasons the primary one being screen size I have learned that for myself somewhere between 4.7 and 5.3 is a line that I won't cross hahaha. I am also a little tired of the slight bluish tinge that the AMOLED displays have that Samsung has produced.

This is not to say they are not amazing screens I just really like the natural colour depth my One X is putting out. I think the HD LCD2 is pretty stellar, I also am growing on Sense seeing it has been pared down. there some things I would change about my One X but overall I have been incredibly pleased with my decision to buy.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte

haaa, so glad I have my One X coming in week! (well, 14 minutes away from a week)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crizthakidd:
how much do u make flipping a phone like this. what 200 bucks ? eh then u gotta pay data for 2 years idk if worth it
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
200 bucks for phone, 50 bucks a month... worth it if your out a lot
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
if you flip it early it's more like 300-400, the reason behind it for me is i will be paying for the service anyways. my wife gets a discount but only with att and she is not going anywhere (and i rather like att so i have no complaints). so if i'm going to pay for the service anyways, i may as well do what i can to make some back. ok, i don't make much if any back, but i do have almost every high-end phone on one of my lines for free or better. i can't complain...

edit: and you don't have to keep data unless you go through amazon, if you use an upgrade on a dumb phone line, you can just put the dumb phone back on it and remove all data.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] louis.b:
Contact management, Gallery, Email app, all are awesome. Also their widgets look MUCH nicer than anything anyone has put out, including ICS. ICS visuals look nicer than before but IMH Sense offers the most modern and polished animations/ visuals out there. In a different world where people didnt rely too heavily on apps I could see HTC transform Sense into a standalone OS for their phones and I would buy them.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
I usually replace everything. Launcher, SMS app, e-mail app, keyboard, etc... (choice is goooood)

I'll just have to wait and see what I think of Sense 4.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] samven582:
The reason I pick the one x over S3 is SAMOLED. I hate SAMOLED
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ricktat:
I had my S2 out of the case yesterday. Swapped for warranty replacement (camera buzz) and wow did I forget how cheap this thing feels.when not in a case. I love the screen but the plastic feels like a toy.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
A meticulously engineered, expensive toy. ;)

I really loved how the Nexus One was built, but some of the other HTC phones since then just seem like they woulda been cool 3 years ago.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
SIII is coming to Verizon first. Just have to decide between the One X and trying to get the One S to work on ATT now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
Verizon first? I doubt that, they don't have the best track record for getting the galaxy on time. T-mo or AT&T probably.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DumIam:
I had the Backflip (pos). Then I got the Craptivate. I then purchased the Atrix, which I got rid of for the Inspire. My wife had 2 different skyrockets that overheated and had less than stellar resolution on the 4.5 inch screen. And they felt poorly made.

Sent from a little blue planet, third from the sun.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vinuneuro:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/334591/20120428/samsung-galaxy-s3-verizon-iphone-5-ics.htm

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...etting-a-Galaxy-Note-competitor-ready_id29521
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
My answer would be ...

Although I've had two Samsung phones, the Galaxy SII LTE and the Galaxy Nexus, it is my humble opinion that when it comes to build quality, nothing compares to HTC. Yes, they've had a few examples where this wasn't the case but, overall, I think it's true.

About the ONLY phone that compares with HTC concerning build quality is the iPhone, yet I have never owned an iPhone and will never own one. They simply are not good enough for the business environment.

My opinions!

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mehdi_s82:
+1!

Keep up the good work
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
The upper management at my company is phasing out Berry's for iPhones.. :rolleyes:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
That means nothing, remember how it exploded all over the internet that the HOX was supposed to be released like a week ago? And all the huge GSIII hype? I forgot to add, both of those links credit BGR,who said the HOX would be out around the 22nd, and we've seen how reliable they are..

It could be true, but I doubt it. Either way though, I have AT&T so it really has a no effect on me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
BGR lol...

lbtimes? lol

only company that was right with the release is best buy!

so guessing the s3 will be on verizon is a big statement... You will know on may 3.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ricktat:
The only part of that could make any sense if because they were first to get the Nexus.... and Samsung is more likely to poach Verizon Iphone ship jumpers... ATT has more Iphone users but most are locked into contract. Verizon with a larger LTE base could have more to offer.

but as the Nexus is not LTE with Verizon.... and we know that the ATT version does not require a seperate radio.... then....

Its back to ATT getting it first.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] h8rift:
Hey Red! Great to see a fellow GS2 user moving on to the HTC One X. I was a little leery about moving away from Samsung because I love their screens. Then I went to the AT&T store with my wife due to an issue she was having with her iPhone4 (*snicker*). Turned around and saw the One X....just sitting there...no advertisements or signs to tell me what it was. I knew what it was instantly :p.

Played with it for about 3 minutes and said I'll be back on May 6 for this one.

Excited to start ROM cooking for an HTC device as well....this will be yet another interesting experience like Samsung ROMs were.

See everyone on the other side ;).

-h8
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Artimus009:
All I can say is things are really starting to heat up on this side of the tracks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Squeak22:
The nexus is LTE with Verizon. Unless you are just saying that its not an integrated radio like the s4 chip?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] roltzje:
Honestly.. I'm just getting whichever one comes out first.

I might even cancel my pre order if the S3 is actually announced for June or early July.. that is possible if the S3 ends up having all the same or better features, and especially if they keep the MicroSD (since I feel like I won't be able to fit many pictures + videos on my One X..)

All of my previous phones were Samsung, because I wanted a thin phone.. and HTC just didnt deliver there. I also was not a fan of Sense before, but now it seems quite nice. Samsung isn't perfect either - updates are excruciatingly slow, my old Infuse JUST got 2.3.6 a few weeks ago.. Touchwiz is decent but I'm not a huge fan, especially since there are only 3 slots for the dock. Also, Samsungs are creaky
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sh4dow1:
I agree with you if the s3 doesent have a micro sd card slot im getting the one x 16gigs is not enough i have only 4 gigs left out of the 32 from my sd card
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kewlguru:
I went to the store today with a friend. He wanted to get an iPhone 4s :-\

This was setup right at the entrance. Was lovely to look at.

IPhone looked dull compared to HOX.

Going back next week to get it
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ernstlustig:
My Reasons to Opt for HTC

- best fit in my rear pocket

- I prefer Sense UI

- SAMSUNG's Windows drivers seem crappy - HTC's are super stable and do not interfere with other hardware.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bidyut:
Physical appearance. I'm superficial that way.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vin255764:
+22 shots per second camera
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] raptir:
I didn't. I actually like some of the feature of TouchWiz over Sense, but the main selling points on the SIII were the larger, removable battery and the SD card slot. However, I exchanged my GSIII several times for hardware defects and AT&T finally said they would not replace it anymore, even though I was able to show them a problem with the phone (PS, never buying from AT&T again. I'll go to Best Buy or something). I returned it and picked up the One X and I'm pretty happy with it. While I like some of the feature of TouchWiz, Sense looks much better. Also, the phone itself feels much more solid than the Galaxy S III. And the screen is definitely better (though I'm having trouble getting used to the lighter blacks, especially around the edges, since I've only owned AMOLED phones ;)).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sn893:
I made the decision after both were available and my biggest reasons: screen is much better on S3 and I don't need a removable battery/SD card slot. I'm always around a plug and on WiFi to access cloud services.