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[HTC One X] Nos0x:
My flicker is getting worse, originally only noticeable in certain grey tones, now it's become noticeable on most pale tones (like this forum for example!) which is starting to make my eyes hurt when browsing. Not sure wether to risk a (potentially worse) replacement or just flog it and move onto a GS3 or a Note :(
[HTC One X] :
Sounds like an average weekend to me mate.

Standard.

Sent from the dark, twisted depths of wanton, reckless depravity using large quantities of phenylethylamine and some midgets smeared with jam.
[HTC One X] Sl1ced Bread:
Don't sell it, get a refund. It's faulty.

I did. You'll get the full value back and you will also stop HTC making a sale of a dodgy unit.

I'll now buy a SGS3 or an iphone. I'm fedup of HTC.
[HTC One X] dgcruzing:
Interesting that you say you are reading the Taiwan threads..

These last few weeks I am seeing the HTC one getting pushed the heck in China..

With Beijing, and Tianjin, and Xian being three cities, I have visited the main phone selling hubs..

So with this in mind.. At about 3600-4500rmb (Taobao as a reference) there is going to be a might lot of unhappy customers

If this is as wide spread as some of you seem to believe.

There seems to be a lot of xdaers that have put their hand up.. So after going through the thread it is turning me away

From this phone right at this moment.. Don't get me wrong.. I want it.. But is it worth the risk of opening the box only to find that the phone starts to have defects after a week or two and you have to have the drama of returning it..

What happened to consumer protection policies?

Have we the western consumer allowing Asian companies to take our hard earned cash and let them sell into our markets defective goods..?

Before some of you get on your high horse.. I actually live and work in China so I am comfortable in saying this.. I don't care which country, and MNC that are selling products to the customer.. If you take their money.. Then you dam well should be supporting the product for a certain amount of time..

OK.. Off the soapbox...

OP, it seems it is a batch that is bad.. Is there a collection of production numbers available so that new buyers can steer clear of them..?

If so, I These should be posted far and wide so at least those with access to the information can steer clear of them.

Honestly, and if it software driven.. Then more phones would affected..

And as there has not been a mass recall (as yet).. Personally I feel.. As others do..

HTC will play the numbers game.. 10%-15% defect rate will be acceptable to them until it surpasses the numbers on a world wide scale.

Plus, There will have to be huge complaints from the US and Chinese markets before they will admit a problem..

As said, I want one as the specs stack up well and the reviews have been good.. So will wait another month and see how this pans out..
[HTC One X] plunderclat:
My first 5 one x's where batches ht24 & 25. They displayed the flickering issue on grey backgrounds (with some being worse than others) my sixth was of the ht23 batch and although it didn't have the flickering issue, it had yellow blotches on the screen which emerged everytime the phones temperature exceeded 30 degrees.

As I was thinking about getting rid of the phone I tried one last phone (7th) and I've now had

This one for 7 days without any issues at all! All bull**** aside, I can honestly say, I'm really glad I hung on to hope. Think i'mn ready to sell my gt-n7000 now. That's another ****ing horror story of mine, since it has icons burned into the screen at only 3 months old. You think htc's customer support is bad?? You couldn't be more wrong when comparing HTC with sammy. Sammy have murdered my faith in those assholes.

I wanna support HTC lol, they're all I have left :D

Good luck with your devices though guys! And if you haven't already tried it, check out the tegra 3 game known as ' dark meadow' it's an ok game, but it allows your device to shine, and gives you an opportunity to see the huge performance gap, between your one x, and anything else out there :)
[HTC One X] Nos0x:
If I'd bought the phone outright I would, but it's on contract and I'm now outside of the cancellation period so my only options are to enter the replacement lottery or sell it.
[HTC One X] rickimalone:
Picked up my forth handset from Three today, fingers crossed.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
Yes it is un-Freaking-believable some customers who put their trust in a certain company complain about how they were promised a "High Tech Company" "Flagship" when in fact it turns out to be just a faulty mid range turd with a nice bright flickering display with color banding issues and distortion this also must be the first "high end smartphone" where the display practically fell out of the bezel due to poor glue.

I see you just joined xda so maybe you should do some research in HTC's rap sheat they have build up over the past few years and it involves empty promises badly optimized software and lack of quality control.

You can spin it all you want Mr_Twist, and paint this turd in gold in the end it is still a turd painted in gold.

Yeah you're right all company's have software problems but since when was buying a sgs called a lottery or a roulette or a trip to the casino since when was it a common fact that buying a phone from other manufacturers turns out to be a real gamble, not in my book it isn't.

End of the line is some folks will keep on supporting HTC through all their failures since 2006/2007 when they jumped **** to qualcomm all are lacking.

Supporting HTC at this point should be called by it's name, its called **** Riding Supreme.

Check out HTC Kaiser Tytn 2 and tell me if this HOX faults are better or worse then you'll have you're answer, the tytn2 biggest fail was lack of graphical driver optimization and almost only noticeable when you were playin games, the HOX failures affect overall daily usage severely, go figure kid.

So you tell me, did HTC learned, adapted or improvised from its past mistakes or did they went down the road of Status Quo?

I think it is just HTC dropping the ball big time again nothing new here, only the sane people realize this ain't the economy or age to mess around and that's exactly what HTC is doing all along...

Yeah go put all your stock on Sense and lockout the boot loader wich made you pioneers in the industry to begin with, just spit the tweak community in its face don't matter if they gave you many fixes in the past, let customers give up their warranty to unlock their phones that shows us how much faith you have in your handsets it really does, its just pathetic..

A final word to those who want to lie to themselves about how a great Company HTC really is and always has been i say to you this:

"KEEP EM FINGERS CROSSED! THAT THE NEXT B(i)ATCH WON'T BE AS FAULTY AS THE ONE YA ALREADY HAVE!!!!"

And this is coming from a HTC Nutthugger for over a decade when they were still a shady company called Qtek, so you can legitimately claim they hurt my feelings a bit often, so maybe i am just dumb for still buying them, but NO more!!!

Good luck and Godspeed to all who do notice and acknowledge these defects!

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I'm praying for you brother.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
The second two items are common with the XL and it's not having the same issues so you can rule them out. CPU frequency differences can't be ruled out. Devs have no access Nvidia's drivers so we're dependent HTC a Nvidia for a fix.
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Dude you sound like such a hater, so what you had bad experiences with the HTC Kaiser Tytn 2, HTC have moved on a long way as a company since then so get over it man...

Either start providing useful, constructive critisicm to the threads or go preach somewhere else man, I'm getting fed up with reading your rants.

Peace out, take care.
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
why does everyone think the sgs3 will be the saviour of all????

it's only going to have its own range of launch problems.... like every single device that is released!!!!
[HTC One X] ib3x:
Damn right you are I'm a hater since that HOX, high tech calamity they should be called communists don't **** up that much.

I had mediocre experiences with all their devices since but keep telling myself they just look so nice..
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Then I respectfully ask that you go post somewhere else?

You aren't 'helping' anyone achieve anything by *****ing.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
I'd rather gamble with that SGS3 or Iphone then a HTC that is for sure.

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Sorry i hurt your feelings for HTC by talking negative about them dude...
[HTC One X] zerozoneice:
now it's a good time for certain XDA users with connections to Engadget & CO. to have them publish a front page story.....

did anyone actually shoot a video of the "flicker on grey background" effect?
[HTC One X] ib3x:
Lottery is a big word for that so called 10 to 15% defective rates.
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
I'm not worried about my feelings, I'm pissed at HTC too for taking what could have been an excellent handset and releasing it in a less than perfect state.

You have a right to an opinion, I wouldn't ask you not to exercise that right, all I was asking was for you to maybe tone it down a little or to maybe post your feelings on the matter somewhere else as this thread was a thread that was aimed at helping people overcome their problems with the HOX and your posts aren't contributing towards that goal.

Take care.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
I sure hope they don't make it a standard where people have to cross fingers when they buy a phone.
[HTC One X] eve7:
Having slight flicker issues, I can see it is slowly getting worse.

I just want a working phone. I love this phone but hate that no one knows what's going on.

Would anyone recommend I get the Galaxy note?

Please advice everyone.

I don't fancy going through so many phones until I get a good one plus the place where I got it from are out of stock and it takes 4weeks.

Thank you

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] ib3x:
Okay thanks brother i understand, i can only respect a man for formulating his opinion as proper and correct as you just did.

Peace.

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Couldn't have said it better myself: "I'm pissed at HTC too for taking what could have been an excellent handset and releasing it in a less than perfect state."

At least we can agree, shame they could be king for me the king is dead now long live the king.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
To the degree some of you are unhappy and revile HTC, why do you still own the phone? Life's too short to allow something like a mobile phone with issues to make you this frustrated or upset.

I had a LG G2X which really was a phone beyond hope. I sold it for a loss and swore I'd never buy an LG device again. I meant it. Those of you who had bad past experiences with HTC or have little faith in them shouldn't have bought an HTC phone.

Other than the fact that there's no fix that's been released yet, do any of you claiming HTC doesn't care or somehow abandoned us have anything to back that up? I'm still of the mind that the silence is just HTC/Nvidia tackling the problem and that a fix is imminent.

I'll say this, even though my particular phone is fine, if HTC doesn't do the right thing with those affected I'll add them to my blacklist along with LG. Issues occur with every device, it's how they are dealt with that is the measure of the manufacturer. It's a little early though to write HTC off.
[HTC One X] Sl1ced Bread:
So was I. I had just upgraded with Orange via the carphonewarehouse. I said that it's faulty and I should be put back in to the state I was in before the upgrade, so they reverted me to my old contract (or a rolling 30 day of the same rate) so I can upgrade whenever I like.

You bought a phone in good faith. Your rights do not go away just because it is a contract :)

I did this after the 14 day period too :)
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
I remember buying my first HTC, it was a HTC Touch2 Windows Mobile... Urgh it was a horrible phone! Then I heard about the HTC Desire, a great handset for it's time. So I went with that, then the HTC Sensation, I very nearly went with the SGS2 instead as that was a great handset too!

I may be considered a HTC Fanboy, that's not the case, I just like the direction that their handsets are going in generally, however at this point in time not so much :D

I hope that they can get their HOX's sorted out, I am irritated that it's being problematic, however I can understand that it's new-ish tech in their handsets so will have an incubation period where the handset needs to be out in the 'real-world' for real people to use it, not a bunch of devs in a locked room who then announce the handset as perfect. The phone ahs to be used by the consumer, that's when the real issues occur and that's how HTC or any manufacturer get their feedback... It's just a shame that they have to fob us off a bit to achieve their desired results.

It's nice that people can get along even if they've got slightly different outlooks on the same situation. I respect your views and your courage to voice them, take it easy dude.

See part of my above post for me views on this :)
[HTC One X] ib3x:
It sounds reasonable but i do not think "shut up" or "don't buy it" is going to cut it, i don't think it's a good sign for the manufacturer at least when people start saying it is a real gamble to buy a certain phone.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Wow, this must be your first smartphone. All of mine from HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and LG had launch issues. Some h/w, some s/w. Some major, some minor. Some fixed quickly, some never addressed.

For those with short memories the XEU SGS2 launched with a ton of issues including a radio so bad as to be half unusable until updates were released. Sales of the GN were halted at launch while the 2G radio issue was identified and resolved. The Xperia S is being recalled because its display turns yellow when the device gets hot in use.

It's OK to be frustrated at HTC for launch issues, but comparing them to a standard that no manufacturer has met in the past six months is pure idealism and just makes you look naive.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
The HTC Wizzard/Qtek 9100 was my first HTC device, i will always have heart for their designs they are still one of the nicest.
[HTC One X] Sl1ced Bread:
I don't think it'll be a saviour, I just think it'll be a competitive phone and I'm going to give it a chance. The same chance I gave the One X. If it has as many problems as the One X (I've had 3 to date) then I'll buy something else.
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
It's not pure idealism to expect a handset to be the best that it can be, especially when it's being toted as being groundbreaking, unrealistic maybe sure, idealistic, no. Just because that standard hasn't been reached in the last six months doesn't mean it is unattainable.

My first smartphone, no, didn't you read my earlier post at all?

As I've said "I remember buying my first HTC, it was a HTC Touch2 Windows Mobile... Urgh it was a horrible phone! Then I heard about the HTC Desire, a great handset for it's time. So I went with that, then the HTC Sensation, I very nearly went with the SGS2 instead as that was a great handset too!"

AND as I've already said before "I can understand that it's new-ish tech in their handsets so will have an incubation period where the handset needs to be out in the 'real-world' for real people to use it, not a bunch of devs in a locked room who then announce the handset as perfect. The phone has to be used by the consumer, that's when the real issues occur and that's how HTC or any manufacturer get their feedback... It's just a shame that they have to fob us off a bit to achieve their desired results.".

So I really see no need for your post as essentially we're agreeing.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
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I never expected it to be flawless also i didn't expect multiple obvious issues and the uncertainty of not knowing a solution makes some people wonder.

The man is talking about sales being halted which is exactly what i would have expected in this situation only i did not happen so his comparison is completely off.
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Ah fair enough. You would expect sales to be halted/frozen/recalls to be made if the handset was that bad as it's giving HTC a bad rep.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
I had expected that sales would be halted but maybe that's naive of me, now they do not even admit it is a faulty device openly, imho htc should give an estimate a precise cause (they said they know exactly what is causing it) or just give a press statement so it is known that htc acknowledges these problems, so people who aren't happy with that can return it.

They only tell you in person that the defects are known to them, but officially this device is still "flawless".
[HTC One X] smoke2:
Today I called on HTC support line and they told me that they know about the screen flicker issue and they try to detect whats happened it and off course trying to solve it.

They dont want to told me if it is hw or sw problem.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
Maybe i did not look good enough but i did not see a single review of the HTC One X that mentions these problems only in forums do they speak about it.

Then again maybe i did not look good enough to find an "official" review from an acknowledged site that points out these problems.
[HTC One X] Sl1ced Bread:
I think the problem in this case is that the issues are so clearly visible and more importantly that HTC have (until very recently), simply denied the existence of the issues.

I was told (by HTC), that they did not have any other reported issues with flickering or the previously described corruption. That annoyed me, as I was on my third phone and I knew many people from here had logged the issue along with countless others.

The biggest issue (for me at least) is how the issue was handled rather than the issue in the first place. If they said "Yeah we've got a problem, hold fire mate and we'll contact you when it's resolved" then I would still own the phone ;)

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I think that might be because it takes between a few hours and a week for the problems to start.

Just a guess though.
[HTC One X] ib3x:
+10 well said mate.

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Thanks kid i wish it was, then i probably would have turned a complete blind eye to the problems that hunt this handset like you do.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Why do you think the XL and S launches are going so well? Based on technical issues, they seem to be doing well above average compared to other devices launched recently.

The difference between them and the X is Teg3. Asus suffered problems similar to what HTC's encountering when the Teg3 Prime launched. For whatever reason the issues that showed themselves after delivery weren't caught in testing by either company. Since the XL and S are doing well, you can assume HTC's testing processes are fairly reasonable.

There's no question HTC's responsible for our satisfaction but there's an element at play where they should be cut some slack. Nvidia's low-level code and drivers are propriatery meaning HTC doesn't have access to the source code and is dependent on Nvidia for making s/w changes. That delays the release of updates and complicates testing.

Where you and I diverge is whether HTC was aware of these issues before the One X launched. I believe they weren't and have now been left scrambling to identify the issues and develop a fix. I believe that's exactly what their doing while some of you believe they are a bunch of idiots that intentionally deployed a defective device and are sitting back in Taiwan mocking the idiots that paid good money for a defective product.

The phone's been out for about three weeks. The problem became known in quantity about two weeks ago. It took four updates to normalize the Asus Prime so I'm hoping HTC is taking the time necessary to create one single fix that puts this to an end. If that takes two more weeks then so be it.

If we're in the same place two weeks from now than I'll most likely agree with you that HTC really isn't that customer focused and not nearly as together as I currently believe they are.

This thread sounds like a Salem witch trial or the McCarthy hearings. Other than knowing there's a problem we have no evidence as to what HTC's intentions and future actions are going to be. Before their hung, give them a chance.

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You guys live in a very different world than I do. Your conversation with "HTC" was probably with an outsourced contact center agent making minimum wage and reading from a script. Until someone further up the food chain re-populates the script the contact center drone is going to repeat what they are told to repeat. All of you are drawing conclusions about HTC's reaction to the issues based on literaly nothing but what you've conjured in your heads.

For all we know, the next communication from HTC will be an OTA update notification on our phones that resolves the problem. Silence doesn't equal inaction as some of you'd like to believe.
[HTC One X] smoke2:
My One X now downloaded update and Im on 1.29.401.7 ROM version!
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Whoa whoa whoa,

As I've said before, I believe that these problems only arise when the handsets are given out to the consumer, I'm hardly hanging HTC, I love HTC, they make my favourite handsets and I'll always favour them over another manufacturer. I think HTC are doing an excellent job, they push the market forward and make fantastic phones, I don't for one second believe that if HTC knew about these issues that they'd have released the HOX and turn a blind eye.

Once again I repeat my earlier statement...

"I can understand that it's new-ish tech in their handsets so will have an incubation period where the handset needs to be out in the 'real-world' for real people to use it, not a bunch of devs in a locked room who then announce the handset as perfect. The phone has to be used by the consumer, that's when the real issues occur and that's how HTC or any manufacturer get their feedback... It's just a shame that they have to fob us off a bit to achieve their desired results.".

Where in this statement did I chastise HTC or state that I believe that they are releasing defective handsets on purpose?

The part where I said fob off was aimed at this thread's purpose, as the OP has been fobbed off a little bit when in contact with HTC, which has vexed a few of us who've been taking part in this thread.

Now I suggest that you read and then re-read my posts again, '

carefully

' and then make another informed decision on whether you think I'm anti-HTC.

Same as everyone else here I'm just waiting patiently for a solution.
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
screenshot or it didnt happen.
[HTC One X] farnsbarns:
Interesting, was it flickering before and is it flickering now? How about screen corruption.
[HTC One X] saih:
Thanks, mine too
[HTC One X] smoke2:
Really. The update was 35.09MB large
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Isn't x.xx.401.x an EU update?

Screen shots please.
[HTC One X] smoke2:
My screen wasnt corrupted and my screen flickers very sporadic. Sorry, someone other must report change of this issue better.
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Which Country are you in? Is your phone branded or unbranded and which carrier are you with?

We need details :D
[HTC One X] smoke2:
T-Mobile Slovakia, buyed on contract, but it looks like unbranded.

Here is the proof :)
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Thank you, excellent news.

Let's hope it allays some issues eh?
[HTC One X] joplayer:
Also am currently receiving an update !!!!!

I'm in France with an HT23 model !

It's 1.29.401.7

screenshot taken will upload afer update :)

I'm currently excperiencing the flicker so I'll tell you if there are improvements :)

F*ck me I'm under 35% (31% grrr)