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[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
How do I try if it reboots the first time?

I don't understand what else I could do?

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Oh, i'm stupid. Now ****ing wonder I could never get it. Didn't know I had to do it the 2nd time in reboot...

I just did it again. Does it make a slightly different sound when you hit it the second time. Also when I did it the second time the cmd was on 1/45. Sound about right?
[HTC Rezound] :
I am not trying to start a he/she said what works/does not work war.....I have successfully s-off'd 6 rezounds as of today. From gb and leaked ics, hboot 2.11 & 2.21. I only had one device take more than one attempt.

It's not that I know better than anyone else. But if a dev says run a pure stock build then it might help for some.

But I still believe timing error and the lack of patience is the issue. Plus some are relocking and re-unlocking and doing things not including in the steps involved...and those were no where in the instructions. Must be unlocked via htcdev and rooted....everything else is up to the user.

HTC Rezound via TT2
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Touch it once to initiate an automatic reboot - the moment you touch it, let go and count two seconds in your head, but just before you actually reach two, hit it again with the wire.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
I've been trying for ever!!!

Does it make another sound when you hit it the second time?

Also, sometimes the phone won't even reboot after it goes in automatic reboot. I have to take the battery out and turn it on again..
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
I remember what sounded like a tiny relay click on the first touch (the camera makes that sound when it turns on too) and don't recall any sound the second tap.
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
Nope. Just gotta time it right.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
I. Hate. This. So. Much.
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
It took me three days to get it, but it will be worth it. As much of a PITA as it's going to be, you might wanna RUU and then install a rooted stock ROM and try from there. Worked for me the first time.
[HTC Rezound] jackass3860:
Help,controlbear tells me im already s off,but my screenjust shows bear symgol with green arrow,tried battery pulls keeps going to that screen.

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[HTC Rezound] andybones:
go to fastboot instead of jsut booting up the phone.

it goes to that screen, because of the boot.img they isntall to your phone to do the process.

take out the sd-card first, and make sure u have s-off..

if so, u need to isntall a new boot.img (kernel)

so GB kernel for GB ROM, and ICS kernel for ICS ROM.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
well **** this. It's not worth my time anymore.

Really pissing me off.

I'll just wait until there is a better method..
[HTC Rezound] jackass3860:
Hboot version is 2.21 and said its s off but when i hit reboot goes to the screen with the green arrow,
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
What ever works for you, but there may never be one.
[HTC Rezound] jackass3860:
OK took sd card out Im S-off how do I go about getting a Kernal back on phone and also thanks for your help
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
I just don't understand why this is so hard.

It never reboots after I do the wire trick. I must be doing something wrong.
[HTC Rezound] jackass3860:
Hey Andy is it possible I lost my recovery
[HTC Rezound] SL556:
I hear you man, I feel the same way. I've tried everything. I guess ill just keep flashing my kernels in fastboot. I want it so badly, but its just not happening for me.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Its actually quite fascinating to me to see so many varied results and peoples' reactions to the process. I'm also starting to realize that most of the people in here will put pretty much anything on their phone (or do pretty much anything to it..) even when they clearly have no idea what they are even doing it for.

I mean seriously, half the people in here trying to get S-OFF and driving themselves insane probably shouldn't even be worrying about it anyway. But they will do it anyway. And then the next thing they'll do, for no apparent reason and without knowing anything at all about them, is start flashing radios. Then the next thing they will say is they can't make calls anymore and can't figure out why...
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
It should reboot on the first touch. If it doesn't, you haven't made the connection. Once it reboots, then do the second touch just under 2 seconds later.
[HTC Rezound] hopesrequiem:
S off was fairly scary and easy at the same time. Figuring out why my data keeps dropping is a bigger issue. I came from a bolt so I'm used to s off. But flashing radios never messed with the phones ability to hold a steady signal. If anything, it improved your odds of holding signal lol
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
It seems it makes a noise when I touch it right. I'll try waiting 2 seconds after it reboots.

Someone needs to make another video!

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When I touch it the second time after it reboots it shuts the phone off..
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
I've missed flashing new radio combinations since the EVO, but it's definitely something that requires a great deal of care. One bad radio flash and your phone is toast. The noobs definitely need to educate themselves first or we're going to have lots of bricked threads.
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
It doesn't continue restarting?
[HTC Rezound] hgoldner:
Yes. As per the instructions, if ControlBear reports "still sober," you haven't successfully run the wire trick.

Exit ControlBear and rerun.

Sent into the innertubes from my Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
No, I press it once and it takes 3 seconds or so to reboot and when I press it again it immediately shuts the phone off.

When I did it the first time and then did it again 2 seconds it wouldn't even boot one time and it just shut off..

Someone needs to explain in great detail wtf to do. It can't be that hard so I'm doing something wrong.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
I think one of the nice things about S-Off is that you can get the phone to go back to completely stock with locked bootloader and everything if you ever had issues with the phone.

So why did YOU get S-Off, what have you done since getting it that you couldn't do without S-Off? :p
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Does it vibrate (turn on) before or after you hit it the second time?

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Also, if I do it really quick it goes it a boot loop.
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
What version of Controlbear are you using?? I assume you're waiting for it to tell you to do the wire trick. What are you using to make the connection?
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
I did S-OFF because I know exactly what I'm doing and have the experience to use S-OFF properly without ruining my phone or somehow disabling critical functionality. That in itself is far more than I can say for many of the people attempting to do this without the requisite knowledge and experience.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
I'm using 0.22 I've tried 0.21 as well.

I'm waiting to do the wire trick after it says do it lol.

When I do the trick the first time it takes a awhile and says

waiting for device

x/45

what number should I be at when I hit it the second time?
[HTC Rezound] Hag77:
Try a diff wire type, or even modifying the wire itself? I was using a cheap little speaker wire, and it would never reset the phone.. I took the exact same wire, and simply cut and re-stripped the wire on both sides- then it took first time.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Ok, so even you don't know what you are going to use it for :p, just sayin

I am just messing around though. I agree though, I don't have any immediate plans for S-off, but I am the type of person where if I don't understand something, I do research first. Plus, I am an engineer so I am very analytical to begin with.
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
Ha, s-off is nothing more than shorting the j-tag contacts and what seems to be a code flood. The s-off on the rezound was not difficult.

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
If it was so easy, how come you didn't think of it? It is easy to say how easy something is once someone else figured it out.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
I got that you were just messing.. I have actually used it already though. I installed the ENG HBOOT and have used some of the additional fastboot commands (fastboot erase system, fastboot erase data, etc) already to perform some tasks on my phone lastnight. :D

And I also briefly downgraded my HBOOT to 2.10 to test some combinations different hboot/radio versions. I'm tinkering too, just like everybody else - but my phone always works exactly the way its supposed to at the end of my tinkering ;)
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
Youre an idiot. The process was simple and honestly i could care less about s-off. An unlocked bootloader was everything i needed. Omg now i can flash kernels from recovery instead of hboot. I can change my splash screen. Not being ungrateful, im thankful but in the end not much difference. Guess i should also say i can downgrade firmware but i never updated to any leaks.

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Yea, I like to tinker too. My wife gets mad at me sometimes, but I enjoy it. I like to work on cars/motorcycles and stuff like that too. Now if I can just get S-off on my phone I will be a happy camper. I still don't know why I see what I have been seeing, but maybe the newest update will help me so I am going to try that tonight.
[HTC Rezound] redbean25:
i can has S-OFF soz I can put up pornagraphic splash images.

Seriously though...

How are you guys seeing what the screen is doing when you are shorting the pin? Do you have a mirror under a glass table or something. I put the phone screen down so I could ensure good contact on the pins. Worked just fine. If you are trying to short it while holding the phone upright and facing you, you are doing it blind and are just asking for trouble...i.e. shorting the wrong pins and damaging the phone. Perhaps there is a good way of doing both, but I couldn't see the screen of the phone when I did it. I just watched the terminal on my laptop and when it said to do the wire trick, I shorted it...tick...t...shorted, and viola, sucess. After the first contact, the phone vibrated and began rebooting, the second contact completed the process.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Not sure why you call me an idiot. You come in a thread that is dedicated to a S-Off discussion telling everyone how easy it is, when it took quite some time to get this method figured out and working.

Sure the concept/process is pretty simple, but coming up with the concept is where all the thought goes. If you don't care about S-off, why read these posts to begin with?
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
You've got this all wrong I think. It wouldn't say waiting for device if it were the proper time to do the wire trick. I think you might be better off using v 0.1. That's what I used. I can link to it if you need.
[HTC Rezound] SL556:
I finally got it! Thanks to everyone who as answered anyones questions in this thread. It finally ran through its prompts in the correct order and phone rebooted when it told it to, after that wire trick went smoothly then. I was running bamf evita 2.1 with old firmware patch when it worked. For me it had nothing to do with the rom, but the program has to run flawlessly for it to work. Patience is a virtue guys. https://www.dropbox.com/s/fu1s03dlz1tsnwe/IMAG0334.jpg
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
I got that last night when I was trying too. I got the scrolling message that said do wire trick now and after a few tries, I got that Waiting for Device to pop up leading me to believe I got the timing down.

My phone would then go in this really weird state that took me a while to figure out how to get it out and then when I re-ran the program, I got that 667xxxx error code and then it quit.
[HTC Rezound] apophis9283:
Since you dont seem to understand why i called you an idiot let me explain it to you. 1) all your posts sound like your crying like a baby 2) get out of juopunutbears rear end and 3) i was talking about the actual process of s-off, i.e. the wire trick and running the program. Do you understand now or do i need to draw you a diagram so that you understand

sent from my S-OFF, INCREDIBLE, faster than a THUNDERBOLT, REZOUND!
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Its a matter of technique as much as timing. My original difficulty was that the wire type I used (cat5e) was difficult to accurately keep in contact with that pad in the bottom of the hole - so I changed the wire trick to suit my needs better and got it pretty quickly after that.

I used the exposed bit of USB connector and the USB socket as my ground poing instead of using the GND pin on the back of the phone (literally just wedged the tip of wire between the socket and usb connector to secure it so I didn't have to hold it) and then with 1/2" or so of exposed copper on the other side of the wire, I was able to simply tap the pad down in the hole, count "one-one thousand, two-o-" and just before the count of 2 I touched it again. Bingo! Then I thought, why didnt they have that as instructions all along? Its more dangerous to the electronics on the phone anyway if you're holding a random wire to a live circuit on the phone when you should be holding the wire to GND and use the other end to just tap the circuit board contact.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Hmm, not sure where my posts come across as whining like a baby. I had a few posts last night with some weird problems that I was seeing (that it appears like no one else has seen) so I posted partially out of frustration and partially to see if anyone else had ran in to the issue. Not sure what the whole "get out of juopunutbears rear end" was getting at. I am merely talking about, in general, it is easy to discredit the amount of work that goes in to coming up with a solution for something, even if in the end it seems "simple."

The fact of that matter is, that because it is so "simple" it should be more of a testament to the work that went in to doing this. I work as a Systems Engineer for a Department of Defense company and we design solutions that to the end user should be "simple", but they are much more complicated than they appear on the surface.

Now this is not necessarily at the same level, but it is a similar concept. Could you draw a diagram for me though? :p
[HTC Rezound] redbean25:
Might I suggest solid wire instead of stranded. The stranded wire is difficult to get good contact. If you take a narrow gauge stranded wire and double the strands back on themselves then twist it, that helps, but solid core wire is the way to go...or a paperclip...same type of thing.
[HTC Rezound] luis86dr:
If you have spare Coax cable around the house (Your cable provider provides it) that can be used. Works perfectly.

Sent from my Htc Rezound

Follow me on twitter @lmrtech
[HTC Rezound] gunz.jones:
Paper clip!!! Tried stranded wire first with no success, then discovered paper clips. The external mount had me for a minute because of the keyboard issue a few had while in shell. Alas, simple solutions are the hardest to develop because they are common sense. Common sense isn't really common though. Such a misnomer. I'm sure we could all use a few more diagrams. Turn them into splash screens to remind us of the hardship that is the Rezound and HTC's s3 chipset choice.
[HTC Rezound] thisisjaybee:
Hi everyone. I'm new to the XDA community. Well, actually I usually just read, but after seeing all the trouble everyone's having I thought I'd post a few tips.

My advice:

-Read the directions thoroughly.

If you do not understand what you are reading, do not proceed.

-Make sure you extract your BearControl files to your adb and fastboot directory (C:\Android or what have you)

-Put the phone face down on a flat surface when doing the "wire trick"

When prompted, momentarily touch the contacts, count one-one thousand, then momentarily touch the contacts again. If you fail, try again. That is all.

-If your phone boots to a white HTC screen as if your ROM is loading but doesn't proceed, you need to install a recovery. Controlbear made a backup of your recovery. Look for backup_recovery.img in your adb and fastboot directory and flash.

-Download and use the GB hboot if you are on GB firmware (You are on GB firmware if you have to flash the old firmware patch when ever you flash an ICS Rom.) If you use the ICS hboot with GB firmware installed on your phone, your phone will not recognize your internal and/or ext SD. Same goes if you are on the leaked ICS firmware and install GB hboot.

That is all I can think of for now. Good luck!
[HTC Rezound] the_passenger:
I lost my recovery & nand and I have to push it via adb fastboot then restore nand.
[HTC Rezound] jackass3860:
Same here Im back up and running thanks everyone
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
I finally have S-Off! I used v0.2.2, hgoldner's metronome timer, and a simple large paperclip insulated with duct tape.

I attempted it about ten times earlier with a strand from a cat5e cable with one end wrapped around a tumbtack with a plastic end, then i switched over to the paper clip. It wasn't until the last try then I looked at the picture again and realized I was using the wrong push-pin contact like a dumb ass! :rolleyes: I thought I was using the right one because at a certain point it would reboot and continue the process but I guess it does it automatically after a certain amount of time?
[HTC Rezound] mtbhk44:
Twice I've used extremely low grade speaker wire. Worked like a charm both times on the 2nd try.
[HTC Rezound] kc6wke:
any advise?

I want to try this but would like some advise first.

I dont have time to read through all the posts but

I am on ics leak with cleanrom 4.3..

If the wire trick fails or I just cant get the timing right, Whats the easiest way to get the phone back to working?

also which ver of ControlBear is the best to use?

I have .1, .2 and .2.2

Thanks
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Honestly, if you don't have the time to read through everything now, then wait until you do have the time. There's tons of little tips, tricks, and things to look out for while doing S-OFF that are spread throughout this thread and it would take me longer to go back through it and type it out for you than it would just take you to read it through before jumping in.
[HTC Rezound] Hag77:
That's actually a pretty damn sweet idea for a splashscreen. The red guts of the phone with a busted ass paper clip or wire between the two contact points. As you said, a nice reminder of the funny (and difficult for some unfortunate folks) process that this s-off procedure was. Of course, because the boot can be animated, the wire or paper clip could have lightning going through it or something.. Make it happen themers!!
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I'll try to add as much as I can to the OP... I've just been busy with classes and stuff.
[HTC Rezound] tschmid5:
Wow thanks for that, I used a paperclip.....
[HTC Rezound] gunz.jones:
A boot that shows the points connecting and then an explosion and that famous footage of the building collapsing on itself. Something exciting. DOH!!!
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
So is that 66732337 error all about incorrect timing? Or could it mean other things as well? I get that every time.

I tried using that metronome timer that someone posted somewhere, so I should be pretty darn close to the timing, but I get that error every time.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Been doing this for litterally 9 hours.

Everytime I do the wire the 2nd time it turns the phone off. I have a metronome set to make it beep every 1.75 seconds and it still doesn't work.

I have to take the battery out in order to turn it back on every time I hit it the 2nd time.

I don't get this at all.

Any help>
[HTC Rezound] tschmid5:
I remember the first time I S'd Off, it was awesome, it felt so good...
[HTC Rezound] Cinosinu:
What are the benefits to s-off if I am on cleanrom?

What exactly are the benefits to someone rooted and on the latest cleanrom?
[HTC Rezound] gunz.jones:
Make sure you are jumping the right points. The phone should not shut off that I am aware. I got stuck on a black HTC screen until it finally rebooted the right way and loaded the hack, no other issues though. Are you using an insulated wire or bare? If it's not the wrong points, you could be discharging and killing it.

Edit: If you are just unlocked and not planning to flash splash screens or use the recovery to flash all at once instead of completing kernel through the bootloader, no advantage what-so-ever.
[HTC Rezound] k2trill:
LMAO!!!!!!!
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Mine actually shuts off too quite often and I usually have to pull the battery. Then once I get it to start where it left off, I get that 66732337 error.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Yea, I rarely get it to reboot. I am so annoyed.

Also, if i pressed it the 3rd time the phone comes back on... wtf.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
I wish there was someone who could tell us what the 667 error code really means. In the instructions they say if it says still sober that you got the wire trick wrong, but I have to imagine since this is a specific error, it must mean something.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
try tapping it 3 times and see if the phone boots back up. Mine does.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Man, I am almost positive I am getting the timing right. I just did it, using that timer and as soon as I hit it the second time, it rebooted as it should and I still got that 667 error. There has to be something else wrong here other than the timing....
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Yea, I've been getting it right as well.

I think there is something else besides the timing too.

****.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
If I made this app, and I think the guys must think similar to me given all the beer references, I would have made that specific error number just to screw with everybody's mind a little.

I saw that same error... EVERYTIME I failed. Trust me, its just your timing. Maybe you need a few beers yourself before you try again??
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
But it just seems so strange that I seem to nail the timing darn near perfect on that timing file that someone posted. It can't be THAT picky where there are people doing it on their first or second try.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Did this for 10+ hours today. No Joke.

It's been personal for awhile now...
[HTC Rezound] manbat:
Thanks everyone!!Worked first time!!!

Thanks everyone!! Worked first time!!!:D Of course I have been reading and re-reading since Saturday....:) I used a phone service jumper wire....fit perfectly. I had been collecting every file and tool everyone had been suggesting since Saturday. Didn't need them. Kept stock HBOOT with GB rooted ROM (for now). Turned off and re-installed my 32GB SD Card (I had used a 4GB for the S-OFF, Card did not loose format!!). I didn't even loose my work exchange setup.....Took less than 10 minutes. Thanks Again!!
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
How gay. I can't do this at all.
[HTC Rezound] SheWolf88pr:
this is driving me crazy! lol been trying for 2 days :( also using the solid copper wire inside a coax cable (saw someone recommend it) and using the metronome. any tips?
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Yea, I hear ya. I am done for the night. I still stand by my opinion that it is something other than timing. I really find it hard to believe that my timing is that bad where one of these attempts I didn't get it.

Oh well, maybe I will try again tomorrow at some point.
[HTC Rezound] SheWolf88pr:
Dude, i feel ur pain.... ;)
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Well if its not your timing, that only leaves your contact with the pin on the second try that is off. The first contact initiates the reboot, so it HAS TO BE either your timing or you just simply fail to make proper contact the second time.

You're probably too frustrated to think straight anyways by now. Drink a few beers, watch some TV, try again later.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Wait a minute....it is supposed to reboot on the first try? The only time I have ever got it to reboot was on the second contact.