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[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
HTC Sense 4.0 Review

HTC Sense 4.0 review

Ok guys, I've been working on a HTC Sense 4.0 review for the website I write for. I've been trying to publish it but the stupid thing won't let me reorder my images, so it's all messed up... The text has also been distorted, ad really spaced out now :(

I've got a draft preview ready anyway, can you guys take a look please, and tell me what else I should include for it? I thik I missed out the Sense 4.0 keyboard... Anything else I should include? :)

It's only a draft, so I still need to add paragraphs etc etc.

Much appreciated!

http://teendroid.com/?p=553&preview=true

EDIT: I also realised Lowveld added tweak to adjust the ROM settings. I didn't talk about this, as I'm reviewing form a stock Sense 4.0 point of view...
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
I wanted the original desire, but it launched too late in India so thought of waiting for next year's lineup. I was confused like hell between inc S and desire S. Got the desire S as I tend to drop my phone a lot, hence the unibody got into my pocket.

Luckily, fingers crossed, I haven't dropped my phone a lot.

waited till Feb this year.to root my phone, and has been a lovely ride ever since

I wanted Android in first place as I am a java developer with little UNIX knowledge, so feel at home here:)

I did make an app for my company (actually for me, but distributed to my colleagues)

Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Page not found oly, thee's something wrong with the link....
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Oops, it was working fine from my PC, but I was already logged in to the website...

Damn it's not working on the iPad either... Crap, I've switched my PC off aswell :mad:

Argh, I'll post it later when I come back on the PC :P
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
This reminds me of something I noticed, Android blogs are much better than iOS blogs :p No, I'm not biased, it's based on the fact that I own a device running each OS. Android blogs (my favourites being Android Police and Droid-Life) have a variety of content. The thing about most iOS blogs (RedmondPie and iJailbreak) is that except around special events, they have as many posts about Android and miscellaneous tech stuff as they have about iOS. Both the Android blogs are Android only. Reading articles on these has informed me about apps, leaks, sometimes even ROMs that support many devices. Most of the iOS blogs lead me to an article I've already read somewhere. Also, 99% of their news tends to come directly from twitter,so nothing really original (seriously, find any editorial on Android Police and you'll see what I mean).
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
My new piece..

There are two mistakes, one in the lower left and one lower right. I tested some kind of hatching to make the picture even more deeper, but I didn't like both of them... I'll remove it with Photoshop later
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
OK, I didn't post this in the original thread, may be "offensive" to the OP, but god did enigmaamit make me laugh - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26722187&postcount=2
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Hmmm... seeing myself mentioned twice in the same thread. I was wondering if I've been spending too much time here...:p

Anyway, as things have it, I think all that is going to change soon... most probably I'll be shifting to Chennai in a major career move and the workload there will be very hectic, so I think this is the last month I'll be a regular at XDA... I only realized this once I finished negotiations with the authorities at my new Hospital, and it seems for the next one year there'll be barely any free time. After that, it's the regular Orthopaedic Surgeon's life for me, I guess (Oly will know what I mean) It's been fun all this while, and fond memories persevere...

@shrome - short enough for you?? :p
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Well, since it's longer than both my quoted posts combined, no :p:p:p
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Damn, that would be a shame :( Without your contributions, the forum will be much quieter :(

Yeah, I understand, my dad became very busy at one point, when he shifted to a different hospital...

Make the last month the best one then :D

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[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Yeah, I agree, but I don't think you'll be able to stay completely off XDA, I'm pretty sure you'll be back in a month or two once you adjust in your new city.

I remember going to Chennai once, it's a pretty nice city. One thing I distinctly remember is the huge billboards around the entire city. Also, their language is very hard to understand. The beaches were pretty nice BTW
[HTC Desire S] :
You'll be missed dude. All in a good cause though.

Latest from the One series camp:

I have the WiFi hardware fault on One X (thought it was kernel/radio but no). Manageable but annoying.

A friend at work has had his One S a week. He pressed the power button, and it didn't feel right. Didn't wake the phone up. He gave it a harder press and has shattered the digitizer under the glass!!! Gorilla glass unscathed, screen underneath is borked. He's never dropped it. Treats it like a new born baby. HTC refusing to accept anything to do with broken screens for warranty. He bought it on my advice. Feel like a tool now. Something clearly misaligned inside the phone. Pressing the power button put stress on the LCD.

Oh HTC. How the mighty have fallen.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Hmmm... I saw a few threads about the WiFi thing. Is it just weak signal, like our DS?

Seems HTC are making loads of blunders. I am actually qiote tempted, i must admit.

I saw a cracker of a deal today.

HTC One S.

200 Mins, 500 Texts, Unlimited Internet.

£16 a month, 24 month contract. FREE phone!

And there is also £35 cashback...

The phone is on Talkmobile, and unlocked. I bought my unlocked DS too, from Talkmobile. That deal some tempting, but i can't justify a 2 year deal. Will the One S still be good then?

10 months with the DS, and i can already see it aging. With the rate the smartphone market is moving, the One S will be outdated. However, i read an article on how quadcore is not needed, and in fact, you told us that its isnt, and you are using only 2 cores on your One X.

Thoughts on this? :)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Ok, unless he's the Hulk, pressing the power button on a regular phone shouldn't cause a scratch to the screen, let alone crack the digilizer, and instead of acknowledging the huge manufacturing defects on the One S, they label the damge as "cosmetic" and refuse to replace the device under warranty. I've been thinking about it, and maybe I've seen enough of this OEM bull****. I strongly think my next device will be a Nexus.

Sent from a device waiting for the Kernel 3 source code. WAKE UP HTC !!!!!
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
+1 for the Nexus decision.

Might opt in for the Nexus as well , especially after watching OEM's treat Asian countries as **** with inferior hardware at the premium we pay for these unlocked contract free devices!!!
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
That is an awesome deal dude! Wish we had something like that :rolleyes: anyways things to look for is even after 10 month of DS it feels aged the reason is being the fact that when DS was released it was like a transitional period cause the phones from last year were already 1GHz single core..well ours had a better chip but who cares more than core and clock speed? Anyways ypu should see if the one s is the S4 one or not... And going for a two year deal with this is not bad i guess ... Have little knowledge about it but is it possible to change phones during a deal if you chane your mind?
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Have any of you guys been following computex? Seen the win 8 ultrabooks and convertibles ? Would really like you guys thoughts on those also windows 8 in general ...
[HTC Desire S] jacmeister:
Its a good deal but would question whether its worth using an upgrade for an incremental update. I would wait a few more months
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Would love to use it on a touchscreen. May test it on the touchpad with the splashtop app. The ultrabooks are stunning and I'd love to have one. The zenbook prime was one that I really liked but i haven't got a chance to look at Samsung. However, my desktops will be waiting for windows 9. The whole metro idea is not working. Perhaps keeping the start button would've persuaded me to switch but for now I'll stick with 7. Boot times are interesting though. Now if only I had an SSD... :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
They say there's an S4 Chip shortage, yet this is coming out http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...a-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-processor-on-board/
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
I'm not also getting the metro idea but news, tech gurus are all really hyped about it..which gives the idea by their mercy this metro **** would take off ... I liked the asus convertibles also the acer ones...there was a 10 inch 1080p display convertible from acer which i liked very much http://theverge.com/2012/6/3/3061858/acer-iconia-w510-windows-8-tablet-computex/in/2826346
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Very nice! Like I said windows 8 looks promising and from those specs it looks like android and iOS have something to worry about.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Oh, and with BlueStacks, Windows 8 will be able to run Android Apps. What do you think about that??
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Question of the day:

Do you think Samsung's marketing of the Galaxy S3 is good?

Personally, I am amazed. The S3 is widely advertised here. Today, my sister saw the ad. She has no tech knowledge at all. But when the ad demoed the SmartStay features and other stuff, she remarked that it looked like the phones were made for humans...

And that's exactly what Samsung designed it for :eek:

Has it really been successful?

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[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Oh yeah, everyone here wants the SIII. They are advertising it to the iOS fans, adding better features and some similarities. At the same time, they appeal to all us hackers, since it's child's play to root the device, as Tectas said. Of course, these gimmicky features will appeal to everyone who's not very tech oriented, and their UI is much better than before (though it's still nowhere near Sense and I still prefer stock android over TW). The price is very high though. If it was sold for the same price as the SII, it would probably be the most ubiquitous smartphone here.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah, actually, I just read an article about Sense 4.0 vs TouchWiz UX...

Guess which one was the winner? TouchWiz!

http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/08/is-...than-the-new-htc-sense/?wpmp_switcher=desktop

It seems to most people now, android had reached a point where it no longer needs skins... I remember the old days, where Sense was vital for Windows Mobile (and early versions of android) to be usable...

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[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
personally all I want now is either AOKP or CM9. Don't care much about sense apart from the image quality.

My next will be a nexus for sure. Sad Google doesn't release it officially in India

Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
@suku - Any idea how much the Galaxy Nexus costs? I thought about it, but realized buying one now wouldn't be such a good idea since a new one would come in 3 months.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
No idea, need to check gray market...

Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Manufacturers need to distinguish their phones by giving more usable and great apps than to skin it... Samsung has done something..they gave GSIII some gimmicky features... But its getting the job done right? Others need to head the same way by giving features and apps that would distinguish their phones..not some half baked skin that looks bad..imo android 4 doesnt really need any kind of skinning.. if android had a theming engine like CM9 maybe that would have been great.. say a manufacturer would put their theme and if I dont like it I can just put it out..
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Dont think it would matter that much..even playbook can run android apps but didnt really helped the device or OS
[HTC Desire S] :
No the One X WiFi issue is poor contact between WiFi aerial on the case, and the contacts on the main board. I get poor WiFi until I squeeze the edge of the phone near the top of the volume rocker. Is like the inverse grip of death!

That is a fantastic deal on the One S olly. It's a lightning fast phone. In fairness though I haven't started using my One X for anything more than I did with my ds, which coped with everything perfectly. The extra horsepower is cool at first, but I must admit I'm not making use of it, other than enjoying the performance of the camera which is outstanding. Is more about the screen and camera for me.

If you get to have a play with the One S in the shop, ask them to show you is the S4 version ad I've heard rumor HTC are coping with the shortage by putting in an old overclocked S3 in. Performance is supposed to be close, but I doubt it's as efficient in power use.

S3 = 45nm

S4 = 28nm
[HTC Desire S] prateek7791:
I heard it costs around 22-25k in Mumbai but don't know about other areas..
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
@Indian People - I just saw on Cell Guru's review that the One S has a 1.5 Ghz Dual Core processor, but they did say that they're reviewing the phone long before it releases in India, so they may have gotten it from Europe :/

PS - Cell Guru is blaming the skyrocket in the dollar price for such high prices on new smartphones, and low price drops on last generation devices. Damn you economics :mad::mad::mad:

EDIT: This seems to be pretty awesome - http://www.ijailbreak.com/news/magenta-project-linux-ios-clone/ iOS on android devices in future.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah, I heard about the S4 shortages... Silly move from HTC. I don't think it's coming to the UK though, I think it's restricted to other countries. Well, I am a pretty heavy user of my phone, it does a lot for me. That's why I was wondering whether the 2 year contact for the One S is too long... I worry it will quickly become outdated.

The internals seem pretty good. (Apart from the screen, which is a real let down). But by next year, I doubt HTC will continue to give it software updates. The dev community is pretty much null, so I don't think it will have a great ha hackers developer support by 2 years.

Also, 16GB might be too small for me, especially when only 10GB is available for the user. I don't think I can last 2 years on that small amount of memory.

As much as a good deal it is, I think I will have to pass :)

I can still wait, my contract isn't up yet anyway, I'll just wait for a 12 month deal pretty soon!

Cheers

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[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Wow, anyone else checked this out?

I don't know if it's real or a gimmick, but this could really help us with CM9, imagine how fast it would be!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-and-now-parts-of-it-are-being-added-to-cm9/

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[HTC Desire S] skim0322:
Ok so they said no asking for ETA. But any idea how long it might take to reach us?(common users)
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Had posted the link in CM9 thread, let's see

I also had asked a question to the developer of linaro, if it would work on Qualcomm processors, and apparently, according to him, it should work on any arm v7 processor.

This brings only CPU performance improvement, like string copy and floating point operations, doesn't have any gpu improvements

Nk111 had taken a look already

Edit: Original link http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/06...k-android-to-shame-on-ti-pandaboard-omap4430/

Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
BTW, anyone still running sense 4.0, try this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1700921

Seems to work well for me, although, it could be a phycological effect :confused:
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Do you guys use the supllied stock earphone or a third party ones ? Bought a skullcandy ink'd today ..
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Never used the stock ones; they are terrible! :p

I use a pair of Phillips in-ear ones... Not sure what they are called, but they have nice bass, and are noise isolation ones :)
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
These ink'd are also in-ear design ..not noise isolating though but bass and everything seems pretty great ... Used only the stock ones up untill now ...so get it im overwhelmed :P :D
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Have been using my Sennheiser MX-400 II since 3 years now :). Very happy with it.

If I upgrade it will be the next Sennheiser, but with a mic this time aound :)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
I use the CX-300 II. The stock ones are too bad for me. I was going to go for Skullcandy's but everyone said they were bad on reviews and in person. If I get another pair, it will be the Klipsch S4's or maybe Shure. I don't want to spend too much but still want to hear good sound.

A friend of mine is an absolute audiophile. He's decided to purchase £700 earphones which are a custom fit. He's just sent his ear mould off to Poland. That's dedication.

Anyone got a maths paper tomorrow?
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Holy cow ! £700 :O here not many headphones are available .. saw reviews of skullcandy most said it was a steal for the price .. also here they have the beats and sennheiser but was a bit over my budget :rolleyes:

Maths ? Which course BTW ..undergrad in physics still math sucked the juice out for past two years ..:P kinda like math though :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] jacmeister:
Oly

Spent about an hour with the SGS3 today. Must say its very powerful and ultra smooth. New version of TW is far better mostly has stock functions. IMO all it needs is stock or AOKP and it would be stellar.

Boot loader is unlocked already just need Odin to root it.

Might be worth hanging out for one of these as the price will definitely drop soon especially when ip5 is released
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
I know. It's ridiculous. GCSE Linear course (I'm only 15 :p)
[HTC Desire S] Amberyl:
+1... i use a pair of Sony in-ear ones. The stock ones sucks... :/
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Nice! I still haven't even tried out the One X yet... But I'm definitely gonna have a good go with them both.

Antway, I'm leaning more and more towards the One S!!

I've spotted loads if fantastic deals, looks like the price is tumbling!!

I've been snooping over at the One S forums, but it seems like the S3 chip will now be international :mad: I thought it was just exclusive to Taiwan.

Now I have a dilemma. If I pick up an older One S (early models) they have the micro arc oxidation chipping problem. But if I pick up a newer one, it would have the S3 chip :(

Also, I was recalling the other day, saying the One S forums were dead - but actually they have decent developer support now!

Wow, I'm getting more and more tempted by this beast...

And I think the price is going to continue to drop even more! :D

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[HTC Desire S] jacmeister:
Good shout but after using the s and x today I would hold out for the x. That screen is amazing .

The only thing that puts me off the one series is the boot loader problem. I'm not using htcdev and voiding warranty
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Best of luck with that :)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
@Oly Get an old grey one. Grey ones don't have MAO at all.

Sent from a device waiting for the Kernel 3 source code. WAKE UP HTC !!!!!
[HTC Desire S] ammenRA:
Guys, now that the One S got the same chip like the Sensation family. Can i assume that the Sensation gonna get jellybean, a port maybe?
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Well, even the 8x50 (Desire, HD2) family has ICS now, so i assume the 7x30 devices will get JB ports in future. Also, JB will probably be 4.1, so it won't be as hard to port as ICS, since the kernel update won't be that major. This is just my assumption based on rumours, can't be certain right now :p

@Oly Seriously, you need to be 100% certain that your One S is S4. If you're stuck with S3 for the next 2 years, it won't be a pleasant experience, and not just performance wise. Since it is OC'd to 1.7 Ghz, the battery will drain much faster, and the device will keep heating up.

Sent from a device waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
[HTC Desire S] ammenRA:
Ya, i hope so too. I think I'm gonna get Sensation XE instead of One S, now that it's official in my country that we'll going to get the s3 version.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
You get the SD card slot and a better screen :)
[HTC Desire S] jacmeister:
Good advice Sir !!!!
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
GS3 is selling for 67500tk here which converts to 820$ :eek::what:
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
S4: Model z520e/s520e, CPU 1.5 GHz

S3: Model z560e/s560e, CPU 1.7 GHz

Check the box to be sure :)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
@Oly and whoever else is clever at Maths

What is 0.218 recurring as a fraction?

I got stuck at 218/999 (Although I got carried away and forgot the fact that fractions are whole numbers :o)
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
Anyone following WWDC 2012 ?

iOS 6 now comes with Fb integration, New home grown Maps App,improved siri , facetime over 3G , DND , etc....

IMO ,Uninteresting :rolleyes: ... I expected some sort of widgets !!!! :eek:

Views please ....? :)

P.S : Macbook Pro's are nice though... ;)
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
I know... scary as hell, as ios is becoming more and more interesting. :eek: with live icons/widgets it may be a real bomb.

... and that new macbook pro... geeez... :drools:
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
I expected an entire Revamp of iOS!

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
Is there anywhere to view the WWDC or at least the key parts? Can't seem to find anything on YouTube.
[HTC Desire S] jacmeister:
I would imagine its posted on apple's own website. They normally put it on there after a show. If not try 9to5mac.com
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
I usually read Engadget's live blog...

As far as, the whole event is concerned, yes, i guess apple do put it up on their website! :confused:

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] uqadwe:
Good morning Sherlock! :)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...rt-1-copycats-who-dont-want-to-be-copied-r870 Couldn't have said it better myself. The same stuff happens on WWDC each year. I was curious yesterday what features from my phone would be re-invented in my iPod and revolutionize it, like iOS 5's never before seen Notification Panel

Also, this is interesting - http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/11/a-quick-look-at-ios-6-and-its-new-android-features/
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
No max payne for us?

http://rockstargames.com/newswire/a...ming-for-android-this-thursday-june-14th.html
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Great read that one .. will wait for the next part or is it out already?
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
+1 on the iPod bit.

After I sold my iPod Touch 4th Gen last year, I thought it would be good to buy it again on some black friday deals this year end , if iOS 6 had something new ! :rolleyes:

But, it's the same old boring UI :mad:
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Apple fanboy gets cluster-fu**ed by readers...

Just read the comments below the article... you'll die laughing!!:D:D:D

I nearly did.:eek:

http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/12/apple-ios-6-features-android-opinion-criticism/
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
I was like "what's wrong with this guy, or is it me?" when reading the article. Those comments only do show the feelings I had myself...:cool:
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Lol, can't believe it... Everyone goes nagging how iOS is far behind, and then this comes along...

P.S - welcome back, your absence was noticeable! :eek:

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[HTC Desire S] jacmeister:
Geller is a well known idiot in blogging circles. Boy Genius he is not. Used to be a BlackBerry fanboy then went to apple .

Sold his website for mega money and ever since has just written flame war stuff to guarantee hits to bgr. Complete twat