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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Matt1408:
I guess it's the same boat as I am on. I guess we have to wait for the test point method to become active. (And in the proccess tear apart our phones)

I really want to like this phone but it's hard to do with the Sony interface. I would love to load up some CM9 right now but I can't due to this stupid carrier crap. I do wish it was more like Europe were unlocked phones are not some kind of secret market.

Oh well, I guess I will have to do with using a custom launcher for now...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] HackitZ:
yeah it might be a while before the test point id ready.

i have a question for rogers users, in the service menu my model says, LT26i, should we not be LT26a

I thought se versions with i at the end was for international versions?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Matt1408:
Yeah, I noticed that right away. I don't think an "a" version of the phone exists. I believe the "i" is just capable of all bands.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] HackitZ:
just had a thought, i wonder if using the ftf files of a rogers phone that can have the boot loader unlocked and using the se update service with those files would allow me to unlock the bootloader on se sites.?

maybe a dev can answer this.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Matt1408:
The bootloader loads before the firmware. So if you flash the tft files, you're just flashing over the firmware. The bootloader remains unchanged.

The only solution I would have is to try to get the phone in QHSUSB mode (or something similar) and then we'd have the ability to write over the the entire phone.

I personally don't know how exactly this whole thing works as this is my first Android Sony phone, but apperantly you can use programs like Omnius hack the bootloader. The problem is that the tool doesn't support the XS yet, but I'm sure once it becomes available we'll be told by one of the devs to specialize in this.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BluechipJ:
Unfortunately, if your phone is carrier branded, it can't be bootloader unlocked.

Right now, SETool cannot unlock the LT26i so there's no way to enable fastboot mode (custom ROMs/insecure kernel flashing, rooting, etc.)

This was a previous video I made, but it answers all the same questions about the bootloader.

I had an arc s (LT18a) that was generic/carrier-unbranded that I wanted to bootloader unlock to use custom ROMs but wanted to maintain the DRM keys so that Sony streaming services and TrackID would still work (paid bootloader unlock).

[YOUTUBE]sn-Vubgka1M&hd=1[/YOUTUBE]

Hopefully they figure a way to enable fastboot for carrier branded phones as well as to maintain DRM for generic phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Matt1408:
Meh, the DRM is a moot point for me. If I don't depend on these services, then its all good.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] robertgeorge1:
generic firmware

Hi

I'm looking for a Rogers generic Xperia S firmware but can't find it anywhere. Can someone please upload it? Thanks in advance :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zimbashka:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8FIauSvSnfSc0Y3MWJxdElHMzQ
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
http://support.t-mobile.com/message/127344#127344

UPDATE, most recent news is here. T-Mobile US testing is complete. OTA soon to come.

Update: T-Mobile confirms the Update will be available starting on Wednesday 5/16/2012.

Update: A flashable zip version of the T-Mobile Stock ICS OTA is already available here on XDA. Thanks to Paten for finding the thread and of course thanks to Steve0007 for making it available to the XDA community.

Update: WiFi Calling Mod ripped right from the T-Mobile ICS OTA is now up!

Update: Confirmation someone has received the official OTA.
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
No Big News...

No big news here. I think we already knew that it wasn't going to happen. And all because of a new phone that is severely crippled, the One S.

Once again, if you want ICS bad enough study and learn the fine art of rooting your phone and pulling a custom rom. Plenty of them out there!

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mo...ors-says-no-sensation-4g-ics-update-in-april/

From The Article on TMONEWS: "If T-Mobile could have releases the Sensation update already, they would have. Trust me."

Ummm when I hear trust me, I want to check and make sure my wallet is in my back pocket, my watch is still on my wrist and my fillings are still in my mouth.

Oh yea and Marketing has no control... MY ASS it doesn't!
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.

Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
[HTC Sensation] Rackfoo:
Agreed!
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
You're just wrong, but whatever...

As if it can't be more likely that T-Mobile sent the buggy ICS update back. We already know HTC just released a patch for it. So even HTC is not trying to proclaim the first ICS release was perfect.

The Sensation is on EOL with T-Mobile, they want the last update to be good enough to walk away from. Not have to deal with complaints and another later OTA patch.

The T-Mobile update matters, because that could be why we got a patch from HTC so quickly. Also, there's no telling if the T-Mobile edition might have other updates.

Yea, we're all running custom ROMs already, so no big deal there is a delay. But just the same, the topic is worth keeping an eye on.
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
Wrong is a state of mind...
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
Agreed. Just sick of reading post after post of furious people waiting on this ota. Why be mad when there is a simple solution? Don't get it.
[HTC Sensation] ddizzy81:
I have T-Mobile USA as well and I'm enjoying ICS with Sense 4.0 with not a problem at all. You guys waiting on the OTA is just waiting for something u could of had MONTHS ago and honestly I feel its gonna b a letdown anyways because it probably wont even run as smooth as these roms our wonderful devs provide us

Sent From My HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
I am not mad, nor would I be over something like this. I could care less if TMO craps out tomorrow. I am just stating the obvious, sorry if no one else can see that...
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
At Tatdude806, I agree with you. Wrong is a state of mind.

Now about the post that page of the T-Mobile forum thread. I for one was not expecting the update this month. To be honest if it gets pushed middle to late next month it will suprise me. But thanks for the info Darnell_Chat_TN.

Last if anyone thinks T-Mobile does not want to compromise any potential profits for the HTC One S by updating the HTC Sensation 4G too early. Well let me tell you, start thinking it cause it is no doubt in my mind it is. Yes Marketing may actually have no control over a software update, but profits do. Meaning if the higher ups in the T-Mobile corperate offices see it as a potential damaging factor to possible profits of the release of HTC's New flag ship device..
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
Wasn't aimed at you at all dude. You weren't complaining. :)
[HTC Sensation] swiftinmotion:
Honestly I couldn't even imagine being stock waiting for a half assed ota TBH... Root your phone and give your self a better experience! just my two cents.
[HTC Sensation] craven667:
True true wahahah let them wait lol we are having fun
[HTC Sensation] computerslayer:
I'm sorry to hear it, though not really surprised. The vagaries of quality assurance between two companies makes it pretty inevitable that it would much longer than normal.

Though disappointing, I'd rather have a quality build with no errors - particularly in the trouble-some wifi calling app - than get a stock build that has to be patched ad nauseum.
[HTC Sensation] electrons:
Not quite everything is in the ARHD release. I really miss the original swype keyboard from the stock rom. Maybe it could be added after ICS release by TMOUS, because I tried the swype beta, and did not like it as much as the original.
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
I totally agree and want to see some ROMs based on the official US update when it comes out.

I'm just saying its crazy to let yourself actually get upset about it when you can get a fully functional ICS Rom loaded on your phone with ease.

As far as the peeps who need WiFi calling to work, (we are all adults here for the most part), use GB until the official ota drops and stop complaining. We are 100% certain it is in the works. GB works perfectly fine until then.
[HTC Sensation] greatgoogly:
Restoring Stock

To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
This doesn't surprise me...tipical T-Mobile slowness!
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
In short, yes, you are wrong. If you are s-off rolling back software/firmware is simple and no more risky than it was to flash non-US ICS firmware and radio! Yes there is risk involved, but that same risk was there when flashing ICS so why worry now if you weren't worried before?
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
I've done it 4 times in the past two days... Just don't loose power in the middle of a radio flash... ;)
[HTC Sensation] monkor:
Good point! Forgot about that, and that makes this even better. Jellybean, imo, just isn't going to be that important (adding google wallet isnt high on my priority list). My take is that Google is honestly just going to keep doing this OS releasing in an attempt to stick it to the carriers for tampering with their product. Basically breaking their will so they'll just release is without altering them to fit their needs.
[HTC Sensation] cashman0712:
Just a quick question, but when the ROM is leaked right before it is updated, does someone remove the bloatware, and if so is it possible to install the ROM even if the bloatware had been removed? Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] SinisterModz:
Not only is 5.0 hitting soon but 6.0 is already in the works and some folks are just now getting a taste of Ice Cream Sandwich.

Look at this graph

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-ice-cream-sandwich-share-82187/
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
I think Android is trying t play catch up with to get a Siri based A.I. I am starting to wonder if there is a Siri based thing for android. a frind of mine has an iPhone and I got my hands on Siri and would LOVE a feature like that in android. I think Windows Phone 7 even has a siri like A.I.

and Yes I know some people that haven't rooted their device is just now getting their first taste of the sweet treat. not all phones can "support" ICS. altho they said that about GB but you see alot of the devices that couldn't support Gingerbread supporting ICS.
[HTC Sensation] banderz777:
I have returned to stock with T-MOB010 CID.........

waiting waiting waiting....... :D
[HTC Sensation] SinisterModz:
Just about every site that covers supposed "jelly bean rumors" suggest that 5.0 will come packed with an "Android Assistant". If this does turn out to be the truth I hope they let you change the voice around, I want "Kenny Powers" as mine lol.
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
Yes you can install the ROM if it someone removes the bloatware. But you will probably have to use a custom recovery instead of the stock recovery because it will probably not have the proper signature after repacking the ROM into a .zip.
[HTC Sensation] bustinstugots24:
I've waited so long for this to come out that when it was announced for a March release I was so excited. When March came and went and April came and went I totally gave up and never throught I'd do this but I rooted my phone and installed a custom rom on my sensation and I am never turning back. It's amazing what the dev's cook up. My sensation feels like an entirely new phone. Can't wait for you guys to get ICS, it's pretty amazing.
[HTC Sensation] Zombie Steve Jobs:
Can't wait for this to come out . Devs can use it to make better ICS roms. No WiFi calling problems or camera or Bluetooth issues
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Not that I believe this dude but in this topic some guy clams he works for t-mobile and is stating the releases date is till June 16th
[HTC Sensation] SinisterModz:
He is full of $H!T, he should post a link or email to back up his story.
[HTC Sensation] kevsteele:
No offense, but everything in this thread is just as full of questionable truth until we have a leaked or official ROM in our hands...
[HTC Sensation] realsis:
t mobile

I'm seriously doubting the updates coming in June but who knows

Personally I could Not wait on T-Mobile. So glad I rooted! Our Roms are probably faster and smoother anyway! This whole update thing has gotten ridiculous! Purely ridiculous" personally I'm glad I'm rooted with a custom ROM. Was growing old waiting on T-Mobile!
[HTC Sensation] Rackfoo:
I used ARHD for a couple of months and just recently moved to Virtuous Inquisition: a more AOSP-like experience. The Devs on here are incredible as these ROMs are excellent.
[HTC Sensation] swiftinmotion:
I don't understand why everyone is waiting for official ota.. We have some amazing roms currently. I'll stick with open sensation..
[HTC Sensation] kevsteele:
I'm just waiting to see if they update the Wi-Fi Calling, and perhaps the radio drivers. Other than that, I don't see that they can bring much new to the table.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Ya know I have tried one of the sense 4.0 Roma but I am always sucked back to a sense 3.6 Rom I guess that sense 4.0 Roma are not compatible with a few apps o have that I use a lot. As for WiFi calling mike said something about having a fully working WiFi calling thing going on ARHD 6.6.4 we. Will see
[HTC Sensation] dajogejr:
WiFi calling is the only reason I'm waiting on an ICS TMOUS ROM, otherwise our developers here have much better than factory work.

That...and...(insert chin music here)....I like seeing the 4G icon more consistently, instead of H, 3G or E popping up now and then.

I know...we're using Europe builds...and the speeds are fine. Just a personal preference.

Otherwise...our aftermarket ROMs win hands down!
[HTC Sensation] Paten:
Has anyone tried the Cincinnati Bell Rom? Someone just posted it a day or so ago.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
I've been watching for it, but haven't seen it. If you have a link then post it... I've been wanting to try that radio.

*EDIT*

Found it. Nevermind, it's the same 11.69A.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M2 radio that's already available...
[HTC Sensation] Paten:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25748595&postcount=38

It is supposedly the OTA update and has a warning not to flash it to your phone. I assume it means that it was posted so someone could use it to cook their ROM with it.
[HTC Sensation] wildcontigo:
MY guess is we won't have an upgrade for another 2 months. What I wonder is how much better it has to be compare to what has been released already by other carriers. The improvements should be directly proportional to the delay, right?;)
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
Well I think that goes without saying... :D
[HTC Sensation] Adamsville MITM:
Hopefully, but Im not putting any money on it
[HTC Sensation] n1x1n:
Amen my friend!!! I'm actually mad at myself for not rooting sooner!!! hahahaha
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
I wish the people on the TMOUS forums would get with the program and root and flash it would solve alot of problems I started off with a custom rom when I first got my sensation I have been using ARHD for quite some time now and I am really happy with it.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Just wanted to share something that someone pointed out on the T-Mobile forum.

See this Facebook thread and the response from "T-Mobile USA" at 6:40am yesterday.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
T-Mobile USA says the ICS update will be available 5/16/2012

http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2392
[HTC Sensation] dajogejr:
All I'm looking for regarding the ICS update is working WiFi calling for ARHD...and I'd bet it's one of the first things Mike tackles.

It's truly the only thing needed for TMOUS users. Everything else is flawless...IMO.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
With ARHD, can you adjust volume while the device is locked?
[HTC Sensation] Zeustopher:
Hurray! That means hopefully once Mike and others get their hands on the files that we'll finally be able to get wifi calling to work correctly on ARHD and some of the other roms!!

-- Zeustopher
[HTC Sensation] dajogejr:
I can only speak for Google Music (Play music I think it's called) and Pandora while using head phones that came with the phone.

Yes is the answer. I use them to mow the lawn. The play/pause button on the ear phones works great, you don't miss a call or email/text/sms beep/notification...

And yes...you can volume up or down when the screen/phone is locked.
[HTC Sensation] ShaunMichael80:
So is the WiFi hotspot no longer free?
[HTC Sensation] secano:
I just hope there's a workaround for the WiFi hotspot feature...I ain't gonna be paying extra.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
It was not supposed to be free to begin with... I'm sure locking it out completely was partly responsible for the release delay though.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Wonder if we will see the RUU leaked before the update
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
A conspirarcy theory that actually makes some sense:D .

It's just 2 days away. Lord willing, we will all survive :D :p .
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
When flashing back to stock should I reinstall all my apps? Or just wait for the update
[HTC Sensation] loueber:
wouldnt it be against some sort of ethical and good business practice to allow users of a product they paid 600$ the ability to use a feature that was not charged for, nor were the customers told NOT to use it, then after 9 months remove the feature and say "too bad"? all other apps like the navigator bloat ware, the tmo tv app, etc, all specifically say that its a charged feature. If you dont want to use it then dont. but when i and thousands of others go through the apps, and see "wifi hotspot" , open it, and get no prompt saying it requires a certain addition to yoru bill, then basically that feature is free and is part of the original phone price.

this is shady at best...

this forum needs more lawyers to cause a stink. its just plain wrong. no one told me the hot spot feautre was NOT free, no one told me it SHOULD be added to my bill for 9 months. so the the " count your self lucky" reply from tmobile is a slap in the face...
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
There's a good chance that you may need to do a factory reset anyways. It's your call...

Many other users who have received the update from other carriers have stated that a factory reset was required to get things to behave properly...

---------- Post added at 09:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:13 AM ----------

Read your contract's privacy policy... It was never supposed to be free and has been a loophole thus far. Many users who used it too much were flagged and disabled from the carrier's end. I'm not arguing that it's not unethical, but them is the facts jack!
[HTC Sensation] Rackfoo:
I'm willing to bet a dime to a dollar that it was explicitly spelled out in one of the T&C's that you accepted. If not, the most leverage that you would gain would be the ability to void your existing contract.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/23662?tstart=30

You can gain more understanding there.

And for the flat legal matter you can read T-Mobile USA's terms of service: http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/Popup.aspx?PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Ok cool was planning on flashing back to stock tomorrow night anyways so if I have to wait for the update to reinstall my apps that's fine im pretty sure the play store will handle that for me
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
It has been in the T&C for many years. And it's not a means to void a contract.

Just because the device has a feature, does not mean the service provider is obligated to allow it to work.

Before, T-Mobile was simply at random killing tether connections. Now, they're just removing the app totally.

Either way, they've got full right to and it's fully spelled out in the T&C.

I used to have issues with this, but the time to be upset about this one was years ago. All the legal this and that is long old news for this. Accept it, because every major carrier limits tethering to some extent. The good news is that T-Mobile was the last.

But this is XDA :) . There are some ways to try and get around this ;) . You can try a custom ROM with it baked in and if that does not help you can try options like this.
[HTC Sensation] rawrfische:
Great news and just in time, at least for me. My replacement Sensation is being delivered today after the screen on my original one took a dump. :rolleyes:

Really looking forward to having working Wi-Fi Calling again.
[HTC Sensation] loueber:
read all you guys posts....also read the polices and t and c i agreed to...

ok so we know we werent supposed to use it... we know we should have been charged.

but thats like saying, the next emissions test you get on your car, they program the computer to not go over 65mph, because that is the fastest speeds your state allows ( or higher depending on where you live). would everyone just shrug their shoulders and say " hey, the speed limit IS 65, i never SHOULD be going over it anyways". which YES is true, but when i bought my car the option was there to drive to 130mph if i wanted to, and even IF i shouldnt be going over 65, having them take it away just becuase they CAN and that i SHOULDNT be going over 65 doesnt make it right or should be shrugged off...

i dont know... i didnt know they were randomly killing the app for some people.. thats news to me... if they were doing this the whole time, and maybe made it known somehow via mailings with the bill, then maybe the upgrade and losing it now wouldnt be such a shock,..

i bet you some Hollywood lawyer could make them change their mind, just like the fact when women get married, they are untitled to 50% of the guys assets.

sucks... maybe if they communicated it better or something... but finding out this way really sucks my bill is high enough as it is.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
All of us have the "upset moment" you're having now when we first learn about it. For some of us, we had it years ago and are over it now. In time, this will pass for you too :) .

Bottom line, find the workaround that you prefer given the circumstances. Helps you get over this faster ;) .