yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] dandean1989:
ics poor performance

Hi all long time lurker here. After trying just about every Rom here since I got my ds over a year ago I think. I've never been completely happy with the ics roms. I go through a cycle of sitting on reaper or endy then seeing a new Rom and I can't help but upgrade and for someone like me who uses their phone a lot for browsing, ics is really poor in my opinion which leads me to think maybe I should just stop flashing roms outside of gb as our phones aren't really up to the task of running it properly. Isn't that the reason they didn't update the desire hd? I don't know if I'm just expecting too much or I'm being a perfectionist with my phone but to me its a tough compromise for all the sparkle of a newer is. One more thing I have two young children so the camera has to be 100% perfect all the time so I don't miss a moment. Another dodgy area lol.

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] Jann F:
Try the Fallout V5 Rom, it runs nearly perfect on my DS since a few weeks and I'm really satisfied :)
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Fallout is an excellent sense rom, personally I don't like sense but I do have a nandroid of this for when I'm on holiday etc because it all works and runs like butter.

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
What's up with you guys..? Any news? Feels like I'm left with old information. Was out for a couple of days, weeks, or maybe a month?! :p
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Can't you view all the words in your custom dictionary and edit them from the list?

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Anybody here hyped to iPad mini presentation in a couple of hours?
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
erm.........nope:p

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I don't hate Apple, but the iPad Mini wouldn't be a good product IMO. It HAS to cost more than the iPod touch ($300), but the competition is below $250. Who is going to buy a 'cheaper' iPad when it isn't cheap enough? I agree that iOS has a better ecosystem, but I would either go for the iPod Touch, or the 10 inch iPad.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Ok, where's that confession thread when you really need it. I've just found out my aunt has died after a long time slowly degenerating and I'm not sure how I feel about it at the moment. :(

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
A) Apple's zombified fans

B) People who like iOS in every aspect

C) People who need a simple device like an iPad, but couldn't afford due to the cost, or didn't want to carry around a 10" brick

D) People who already own an iPad, but feel like they would prefer to use the same device with smaller screen

F) Tap Tap Revenge players, since it's easier to play it on a bigger screen (than one of iPod's)

E) People who don't know about the great Nexus 7

Sorry about your loss, dude, may she rest in peace in a better place
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I'm sorry to hear that mate. My thoughts and sympathies are with you and your family.

---------- Post added at 04:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:49 PM ----------

I am actually looking forward to this - purely from a business point of view. I work with EPoS systems and one of the products we sell includes an app to run on iOS so that waiting staff take orders at the table and it all gets logged directly into the EPoS system. At the moment we supply iPads as using an iPhone or iPod Touch is just too fiddly. We have started using the Nexus 7 on another system and it is the perfect size, so hopefully the new iPad Mini will fit the same gap.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
So, it happened. Another "new" iPad which is a total copy of the 3rs gen., and a mini iPad, which Apple has put against Nexus 7 and tried to insult it.. what a shame and a coward move
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
thank you both for your kind words. To be honest I've been expecting it for a while and I know this sounds bad but I've even wished it a couple of times just so she would have peace at last. It's just a bit of a shock and I'm still not sure how I feel about it.

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Sorry to hear that. Sometimes it's just better to let people go on to another journey beyond life.

On another note, I felt that my volume rocker has started shaking just like the power button. Seems sweep-to-wake is the only option now :p

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
+1

Sorry to hear that too. Hope you pull through it well.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Just wondering are there Any plans for FIFA 13 on Android?

Its been out on iOS for a while now, still yet to see anything for Android.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
We haven't even seen Real Footbal 2013 yet
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Just seen Taken 2... Didn't see the original one.

Predictable story, no wonder it got bad reception from critics.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
The first one was way way better...

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I wonder if the time/circumference and grenade thing actually works in real life. I found that part pretty amazing.

On another topic, sorry guys for the stupid question. Since I rooted my DS last year, I have always stayed put with the

6.98 hboot. I'm quite behind, as I do not know much about the newer hboots etc.

I cannot flash certain ROMs (e.g - official rooted ICS ROM) due to the old hboot having a different partition layout.

I'm thinking of upgrading to this hboot here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1679338

Is this the 'best' hboot to use in order to be able to flash any ROM? Or which one is reccomended?

And my second question, with the new hboot, does this mean that from now on that I flash a ROM, I have to flash the kernel

Boot.IMG through fast boot? Is that the case, or does that only apply to htc-dev users?

Thanks :)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I'm using this HBoot right now, works pretty well :) All ROMs seem to work, even those that didn't work with the old one. No need to flash boot.img separately, that's only for HTC Dev users .
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I'm the same, had no issues with any rom on this hboot.

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Well, if you are going to stay on AOSP ROM's, then there is no need to upgrade to the new hboot.

IMHO, never going back to sense, will switch hboot when AOSP needs more space in system than what we already have.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
Doesn't really matter 2.x or 7.x, the latter has greater version number to be able to overwrite the revolutionary from PG88IMG skiping this way the "scary" the dd play ;) The rest is same

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
That probably won't ever happen :p We have a LOT of space for AOSP at least. And as far as Sense is concerned, I'll switch over as soon as ViperSaga is released.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Thanks guys! Will try it now and see how it goes!

Well I never actually tried stock Sense ICS, so I wanna give it a go :)

Also I missed out on a couple of ROMs i couldn't try last time (MIUI ICS etc)

I only really use my DS as a flashing device now, so i guess it will be nice to be able to run all ROMs :)
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
never been a fan of sense but I am looking forward to the official viper release. Just hope I get to test it as it's developed

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
What's with viper? What's special?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
It's like AOKP for Sense xD Check this thread for an explanation on all the tweaks - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1953899
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Good stuff, but I think I'll pass

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
I dunno how about you guys, but I'm currently back to Sense 3.6 ROM based on latest RUU. I just couldn't take the awful battery draining on every Jelly Bean ROM, plus I have a non-sony screen panel device, plus the perfomance is still a bit worse than ICE_DS 5.3 with ultra-smooth rosie, and I find the native wi-fi tethering function in Sense to be more customizable than it is in Jelly Bean.

Same goes for my HTC Flyer - reverted it back to Honeycomb a couple of days ago, just because there are some broken features and heavy graphical glitches after playing 1-2 3D games, and the reboot only makes the perfomance worse somehow.

Anyways, I'm thinking about picking HTC Desire X as my next phone in a 6-12 months period, what do you folks think about it? My co-ed has one, in white color, it's SO MUCH lighter than DS! :eek:
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Same here. The DS isn't my main phone anymore. I already have the S2 on TouchWiz, my Galaxy Tab on CM10 AOSP, and so I put my DS on Sense, and I have the best of all 3 worlds :D

Been used to Sense 4.0 for quite while now, and in some respects 3.6 has a nicer appeal and suits the DS more.

Don't go for the DX. Hardly an upgrade, and worse in some cases (although dual core, GPU is weaker than DS).

What I'm really pleased with Samsung is that they are updating the S2 to have the new TouchWiz UI 5 from the S3 with our JB update next month. (Few JB leaks already) That is dedication! We will probably even get all the features like SmartStay etc.

I'd love to see HTC do that! They will come up with the 'insufficient hardware crap'.

HTC really need to pull up their act. Samsung actually listens to customers and delivers, unlike HTC.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
I'm not using my phone for some heavy stuff, just basic functions like ICQ/messages/calls/browsing/sometimes a couple of games like Subway Surfers or Bad Piggies, so I don't really care about hardware differences that much. Though it's nice to know that it still seems to be somewhat more powerful than DS is.

It also seem to have a larger battery, better screen (Super LCD) and LOTS of camera features. And it goes at a price just a little big higher than Incredible S costs now here in Russia! (that's about 400$)

I liked it as soon as I held it in my hand, though I heavily dislike Sense 4...
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Have you considered the Galaxy S3 mini? Same market target as the DX, similar, of not better specs than the DX too.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
I don't really like Samsung's TouchWiz, it's just doesn't look appealing to me, so no. And here it'll cost much more than DX does now
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Guess we never got a chance to experience CM updater on CM10 as our builds are unofficial, but is so cool! I'm running official CM10 nightlies on my Galaxy Tab, and when there is a new nightly available, I get a pop up message to download, it shows mini changelog since the last build :) After, it will automatically install and reboot. Works exactly like the OTA software updates, so cool.

I guess when Andromadus reaches a beta stage, Flinny said he will hack the updater to download his ROMs :)
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
U still running stock on your s2 oly? I thought u would be on aosp or aokp by now:p
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Haha! I've been closely following the JB discussion thread, and rumours are pointing to a release sometime next month! It will also come with the new TW5 from the S3. :eek: It would be a totally new experience so I'm excited for that. (Sprint S2 has the leaked ROM)

I mean I've waited for a few weeks already, I suppose i should just wait a few more, and the OTA will roll out!

I satisfy my flashing needs on my DS and Galaxy Tab ;)

Although I did feel tempted yesterday to try out CM10 on my S2! How about you? Still on RR?
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Yeh official JB is just around he corner..... I can smell it!

Nope. I had 1 or 2 minor annoyances with rr 2.7 so tried aokp Rootbox 1.8 for a while but now I'm back on CM9 nightly. (unbeatable IMO)

Great news about the exynos sources from Samsung too! Means we should have fully functional cm10 In a month or two.

How are you getting on with he s2 now you've had it a while? I find the DS seems absolutely tiny now when I pick it up! Funny how perception changes :D
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Can't wait for it, something to look forward to next month!

That's why I'm please with Samsung, they listened and they delivered. Whereas for HTC, petitions hardly ever work.

The sensation owners protested they didn't get JB, signed petitions, and nothing happened. In theory they deserve the update, as its in the same range as us.

Anyway, when HTC update, they wont give Sense 4. But for us, we are getting the latest TW5 from the S3 :D

i hope we get 4.2 later on as its only a minor update...

Yeah, I know what you mean! It does feel tiny when it haset been used in a while. So what is your DS currently on now?

Must admit though, my S2 feels much more vulnerable than my DS. Maybe because I care for it more :D. But I think its due to the DS having fantastic aluminum build and the S2 plastic.
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
True! I think Samsung realise they would be cutting their own neck if they upset our community.

Strange story behind me DS. I actually sold it for funds to put towards my s2 but have since bought another purely for wifi tethering as we recently moved house and don't have Internet set up yet. It's on stock GB as when I got it it was branded on 3 with sense 3 and locked 2.0 hboot. So spent an afternoon downgrading hboot then did the gold card thing to flash Unbranded ruu. I basically signed upto a sim only contract with 3 that has all u can eat data so it's plugged in permanently providing me and my gf Internet :)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Ahaha, you must clearly be so attached with the DS you bought another one! :p

Must be a true calling to return to it lol
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Sure it could suggest that! I'll always have a soft spot for it as it was my 1st android powered device

;)

What are your views on the LG nexus 4?

2 killers for me are no expandable storage and built in battery:(

Apart from those 2 things its a winner!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I'm 99% sure you're never gonna see those in a Nexus (Google Hates SD Cards, they're definitely out). I'm pretty excited about android 4.2 though :)

---------- Post added at 08:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:08 PM ----------

I suppose everyone's already seen this, it has over 32 million views. This seems like a killer film, though it will be hard to live up to the Avengers

[youtube]5EjG-1U3wqA[/youtube]
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Bah, another god-afwul movie. IM2 was worse than IM1, 3rd movie won't be better. Just another pop-corn-ish action
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Not too bothered anything, as I can learn to adapt without it :)

Apart from that specs seen fantastic but our S2 still is comparable to it, and most phones on the market today ;)

I'm interested In The Nexus 10 tablet, And Possibly The Note 10.1 Which We May Buy As A family tablet.

Iron Man 1 was an amazing film. Iron Man 2 was quite boring, but IM3 looks better.

I wonder if the next avengers will have the licence to Spider-Man. It's a real shame they're didn't for the first movie.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
How many people here use tasker, I've just purchased it and so far only come up with a couple of simple tasks. Just wondered what everyone used it for

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Used the trial on the website a while back. But couldn't figure out how to use it, even after reading guides.

Gave up almost straight after!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I loved both films, though none of them had a very good story or villain. They were more about Iron Man showing off, his massive entrances to AC/DC songs, and his one-liners, so they were fun to watch. This one seems much more serious, and I like it.

The Amazing Spiderman was nice, just saw it recently, but it wasn't nearly as good as any of the films in the Marvel Universe.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
same here, I get roughly how it works, was about to import some profiles to give me a better idea of what can be done with it.figured it would be the best way to start, look at it the same way I did with uccw.

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
I use it for data on when I'm in certain apps and not connected to wifi, screen brightness lower at night. The auto silent during work hours.... And some more
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
The first one I did was night time quiet hours. Some of the roms don't have it, so I got it after a 3am text woke me up:) about to look into the lost/stolen location profiles.

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Tasker

I use tasker to turn on wifi when I get home and off when I leave based on cell towers, amidst six and volume settings overnight, general battery saving techniques, play the radio application when I plug in my headphones and stop it when I remove them, etc

There is a good guide in the Android guide that is a sticky on general, there it's also a decent wiki style website

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I have the Tasker guide on favourites and I keep coming back to it but there are some really complex looking stuff being done with it and being new it kinda blew my head a bit. Was thinking of putting up a device specific thread to share profiles. I've seen them in the various other device forums and wanted to see how many ds owners use it before I look at it seriously, no point if only a small handful are interested

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Damn, I just got a Nexus 7 and now this - http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10/26/say-hello-to-the-nexus-10-first-photos-emerge/ Though I'm sure it'll be way more costly. The specs seem better than the iPad 4, but of course, I would choose an iPad if I were to spend this much on a tab, the ecosystem is MUCH better, and everyone knows that. Google is really trying to push tablet apps to another level, let's hope it can match iOS in a year :)
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
No need to hack the updater, there is update me, an ota/kitchen app that can be used by everyone who wants, the only prerequisite is a host with direct link capability.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I looks a very promising tablet, I've handled a nexus 7 and it feels nice, but I do like the larger tablets. I'm still using my Archos 101 quite happily

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
One of my friends just got back from business in Hong Kong, he brought home a quad core phone called a meizu Mx4 running a unique os based on android 4.0. It looks a bit like a iPod touch and a sgs2 mixed together and my god it flies. We messed about doing benchmarks vs my S3 and it pains me to say but it kicked my s3's butt, screen was high quality and easy to read, size wise I guess its around about 4 - 4.3 inches as it was a fair bit smaller than my s3 , he said he paid approx £300 for the device and it appears to be worth every penny, anybody looking for a sim free handset may want to investigate it come upgrade time as when compared to what you get sim free for that kind of money (RAZR I, one s etc...) it seems to represent phenomenal value. I had never heard of this handset before or meizu for that matter but with Xmas coming and the Mrs sick of me grabbing the ds most nights to play flash the new rom I might buy one for her, anybody here ever used /bought/experienced a meizu phone if so what was the durability like? My mates phone seems well screwed together to be fair, comfortably as well built as my s3 so seems promising, its just i would like more feedback... :beer:

Sent from my Nexus 7
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Something interesting - the specs say that the processor is a DUAL CORE Exonys 5 (which is a VERY powerful chip, even more than the S4 on the One S), but I can't help but wonder why Samsung wouldn't put the quad core chip in S3 or Note II. Maybe this is to reduce costs and still keep it chaper than the iPad. Anyways, we'll find out in a few days.

BTW, android 4.2 coming too, reveal on Monday, source probably by mid November. The good part is obvious, we get a shiny new OS. The bad part is, if it can't be directly merged to current sources (which it probably can't) we'll have to start the update cycle again. Just when we were about to get a fully stable Andromadus, and CM10 & AOKP are getting good features, google drops an update :p We never even got JB SENSE lol. To be fair, 4.2 is still JB, so it won't be all that major IMO. Probably even a smaller update than 4.1 was to 4.0.

@pughie - It flies because of the quad core S4 chip, which is rumoured to be in the LG Nexus 4. I would choose that over the MX any day ;) Not to mention the gigantic HTC DLX. Damn, the markets are being flooded this quarter.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Whoa, 2500x1600 SCREEN RESOLUTION!? That's even more than iPad 3!

But I still don't understand why the hell do they make such big resolutions on a 10" display? It makes no sense to me :/ There's no Ultra-HD-ready movies yet anyway, and no current video cameras can film videos in that resolution, so it will do nothing but drain the battery like a child from a milk bottle :/

Though the device itself looks nice, I wonder what's its cost gonna be?
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Yeah, Android has always been better in terms of specs, but whats the point when barely any app makes use of the power/screen res? Almost every iPad app is retina optimized by now (which thanks to the Nexus 10 and DLX has been crushed :p)

It will definitely be cheaper than the iPad, nothing else can be said ATM.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Kinda gutted about our iPad3. Apple betrayed us! :p

It seems as though apps are being updated to take advantage of tablets now.though?

Noticed that with facebook, and Twitter. Still no way near the ios integration though!

sounds like a beast, if my memory is right, Simon was expressed interest in the device a few months ago before release?

seeing as its staying on the jelly.bean name, I don't think so and hope that sources will change!

Based on leaks, it doesn't seem like a huge overhaul, just a few minor features. (Less than ics to jb)

Makes no difference anyway I thought? 300ppi is the human limit, anything higher, you cant distinguish, so why are manufacturers competing? Or am I mistaken?
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
I bet that it'll be about 450-550$

I don't know, but they probably do. But, anyway, a competition is always good for the market, as we, the customers, always get nothing but benefits from it, so let them be the way they are now.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
The tab doesn't have the quad core of SGS3 or Note 2 as both of those are cortex A9 quad core. This is A15 dual.

I was hoping that exynos 5 (A15) quad would pop in here

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
I guess they will introduce it with the next sgs like they did with the exynos 4, but still a step forward, it is the first pure A15 soc, if it really differs much from krait performance wise time will tell.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Frankly with so much power, there will be barely any perceptible performance difference

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
I'm sceptic about that, because the power comes from the parts of a15, but we'll see.