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[Nokia Lumia 900] viny2cool:
Also I have been Nokia Lumia 900 for a week and I get ok reception in my office but when I make call, there is so much distortion ...Whereas my captivate (for which I found the best modem) gets really good reception and clear sound. So now I missing the fact that I cant change(mod) the modem on this Lumia phone....
[Nokia Lumia 900] viny2cool:
Well thanks for the facepalm...my first ever....May be I was wrong about Kindle Fire not being whole tablet...but its not 500 dollar regular android tab...so may be thats why it has issues u need to fix by modding. However, I have used Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I have Galaxy phone (Captivate, S2, Skyrocket and Galaxy Note)...Out of which I only modded captivate as its my regular phone...all other i used on stock.

Again I started this thread (my mistake, I apologize), to see how many people think it has good hardware but not so good software...I got the suggestion of N9 from people and i am looking forward to buy now...thats it...
[Nokia Lumia 900] hvbelton:
Mr. Moderator(s), Please, Please, Please, close this thread
[Nokia Lumia 900] viny2cool:
I agree and I will let them know...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tnap1979:
:confused:title says it all,

i want to compile my first rom, and i want to use aokp as the base,

i love its features, i love how snappy it feels with the right kernel and setup

and overall i just want to compile my own customized rom, if it turns out ok then i may release it for the rest of you guys :)

but ive looked and all i found was a tut on compiling aokp for toro not maguro

so just curious as to where to start

helpful pointers only please ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Well wouldn't using the tutorial for toro work for maguro but just use maguro files?

bow chicka wow wow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
There is a sticky in this forum, and yeah, what @rbiter said.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tnap1979:
understood, but i dont see clearly how to use maguro files on the toro tutorial,

just looking for some simple answers and something easy to use :)

maybe im blind :S lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tnap1979:
also, im new entirely to compiling and custom rom cooking and all that fun stuff,

so hence why i had asked how to use maguro files while compiling..

i know its prolly been answered before, and yes im sure there is something out there...

but for me i cannot seem to find a maguro specific tutorial for AOKP

and i really want to make my own rom, but am so confused with all the compiling stuff, and ive never really learned linux, i know basic commands, i know how to follow tut's, but other then that, im lost

thanks again for any help
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
It is hard finding good tutorials for a lot of stuff. That said, you need to find a few good tutorials of varying things. And you need to be able to figure out "if I can do this with this file can I do it with this file?". And you need to be a man about it. Seriously. You learn more from mistakes and not being able to do what you want rather than a hold me by the hand video or toolkit. And lots and lots of reading and searching. And finding some friendly devs who aren't too busy helps too. If any of these aren't in your game plan you should probably not do this. We don't need another I bricked my phone trying a toro compile on my maguro phone. :banghead: :D

bow chicka wow wow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tnap1979:
well im not that much of a newb.. but i am to compiling source code stuff...

im used to the days of HTC rom cooking, so simple to just use a kitchen to make the rom, but android sparked a fire in me and now i want to try my hand at a custom rom, the ONLY thing im worried about is bricking the phone,

but as ive seen around on diff forums is that its not impossible to brick, but u HAD to have done something wrong to hard brick the device, and as far as i know, if i follow steps accordingly then i cannot possibly brick the device unless i fudge with things im not suppose to...

but i just basically want a rom, made by me, with all my customizations and settings as a default daily driver...

cuz with all the rom versions and release's coming out, im getting annoyed with having to redo all my settings and launcher setups and stuff...

basically all i want really, is a base rom, that i can update as new versions release, so i dont have to "wipe" the device all the time, just add a new update and go...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Also do you have a Linux or virtual box setup already? Do you have android sdk loaded up? Eclipse? Played with android emulator? Have you tinkered with some little stuff like kernels? Does your computer have enough oomph to compile a rom in a reasonable amount of time? Without overheating? Do you know where and how to pull and look at files? Fastboot commands? Adb commands? And drum roll... do you have extra underwear if you brick your $500 phone? :what:

bow chicka wow wow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tnap1979:
i have ubuntu 11.10 and ubuntu 10.04 setup on my laptop, and i have android sdk and gnex toolkit and various other tools installed on my win7x64 desktop, i also have dabbled in adb and fastboot commands, i have messed with build.prop editing for basic stuff, im a bit familiar with dos commands and linux command line.. i do know how to use adb for push and pull of files, i have a full motodev /w eclipse linux VM on my win desktop, it has everything needed for android dev, but i think its possibly only for moto devices :S not to sure tho

and my pc, i think it has enough balls.. Acer Aspire 8943G 18.4" laptop, core i5-430m 2.26ghz quad core, 8gb ddr-3 ram, 640gb hdd for win7x64, 160gb hdd for ubuntu 11.10/10.04
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Got ram?

bow chicka wow wow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tnap1979:
8gb-ddr3 Kingston Hyper-X 1866mhz
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dirt_squirrel:
is it possible to use an unlocked at&t vivid on rogers with LTE?

i'm just wondering because i want to have the ics goodness and not have to wait for rogers to get off their collective butts and release it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] cedrikfd:
As per GSM Arena...

HTC Raider 4G (that's the Rogers one) and HTC Vivid (the AT&T one) has the same bands, so technically speaking, it will work

They're both LTE 700/1700/2100
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] :
I believe you have to change the bands by using #*#*4636*#*# to the UK bands but i could be wrong it probably is one of those things that "just works" lol
[Nokia Lumia 900] slojko:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/17/windows-phone-8-available-all-devices/

:eek::eek::eek:
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
Makes you wonder if Microsoft implemented the hardware criteria long ago for a reason. :D I think they've known what they wanted to do and where they are going to go for a long time already. Can't run latest OS from Apple on first gen iphones, and same for Ice Cream Sandwich for Google. Now is Microsoft bringing tremedous value to the consumer? Absolutely. If this is true then it's great news for those people that adopted early or those that bought used first gen phones.
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
uh huh, food for thought. Now if this was android...
[Nokia Lumia 900] revxx14:
The Verge is claiming a source close to Microsoft says that this is wrong. I'm really hoping Microsoft makes some announcement before my return window runs out...
[Nokia Lumia 900] kirdroid:
Here you go...

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/4/17/2956439/windows-phone-8-apollo-no-upgrade
[Nokia Lumia 900] Hamburg:
Even if it is true, I'm still going to want to buy a new device to take advantage of the NFC and dual-core capabilities and better screen resolution that only a hardware refresh will bring.
[Nokia Lumia 900] viny2cool:
If someone can port the new updates on our device unofficially via an custom rom, then we shouldn't worry abt it.

I dont think I need dual core in my Lumia as its already so effing fast and do everything with ease. Android phones needs dual core and quad core because the way OS executes the thread it need powerful processors. I used Galaxy Note before this phone...I would take Lumia screen over Galaxy Note screen anytime, I know technically Note has better screen specification wise..but Lumia has colors looking so clean and smooth. Still have to use NFC to know its capability.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Hamburg:
I agree, Lumia (and any other Windows Phone for that matter) is fast running WP7.5... who knows what it will be like running WP8, though. I'm sure the OS will still be incredibly efficient compared to other OS's, but apps are going to continue to grow more complex and new features are going to be added which will be more resource-needy. Could you imagine the tax on resources if they release those rumored Kinect Phones?! :D

Additionally those new Krait chips (Snapdragon S4) add more than just dual-core capabilities. They add better camera support (up to 3 20mp cameras), 7.1 Dolby sound, latest wifi and bluetooth radios, HD displays and recording, better memory and power management (i.e. longer battery life), improved GPUs. The list goes on and on. And yes, the ClearBlack display is beautiful, but why not throw that tech behind an HD screen? WP8 will open the door to so many new things, but not if you're still carrying around your HTC HD2 with DFT hacks :p
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
exactly. Saving my hardware update for that.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Seed 2.0:
I would be serious displeased if the Lumia 900 didn't get the update or a version of it.

P.S> My Samsung Focus is faster then my Nokia Lumia 900.:rolleyes:
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
Not everyone roots their phone. we shouldnt have to wait for a port with broken features. Google should be more on top of things, like Microsoft is. Everything should work out of box, and we all know android doesnt work like that. If i didnt find out about rooting and what not i probably wouldnt be using my android device right now lol
[Nokia Lumia 900] slojko:
who reads the verge? if microsoft did that to lumia 900 owners i can safely say i will never be getting another windows phone again. and i highly doubt they will do that to the phone that they put all there chips in on, i mean the lumia 900 launch was huge for at&t.
[Nokia Lumia 900] go0gle:
Worse case scenario is a modified version of WP8.. maybe missing some features, but the main functionality updates will come. For example, they are saying that WP8 will bring SD card support, well.. that doesn't matter for the 900 since it doesn't even have a slot for it..

But there is no way there won't be another major update, if they do that, they will loose a lot of customers.
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
I can agree with you, if I thought they put all their chips on the 900. Microsoft has had a plan in place for Windows Phone since the begining, post re-design. It wasn't Seven, it wasn't NoDo, it wasn't Mango. It was Apollo...Windows Phone 8. With WP8, Microsoft intends to be on the same playing field as Android and IOS. Right now, they have showed bursts...but not the entire package.

I 'think' that updating previous devices 'may' be their plate, at some time. But, the majority, like 99.9% of their focus is on that playing field.

First leaked info on the next Nokia with WP8 indicate a stellar blockbuster device. See Verizon's comments about Windows Phone yesterday. Sprint too. The number of OEMs announcing WP8 devices is like 4 times the amount of Seven or Mango. Lumia 900 opened some eyes, but I personally think that Verizon and Sprint, to name 2, and ASUS and Toshiba and a host of other OEMs opted to move to WP8 instead of interim developement on Mango.

For me, I have an upgrade available right now. Unless some catestrophic event occurs, like the Mayans were right, thats earmarked for my WP8 device.
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
Here you guys go: http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/19/microsoft-official-admits-he-misspoke-regarding-windows-phone-8/

dont give your hopes up

also, this wouldnt dumb for them to say anyways. the DVP is not supported by Dell anymore the last time i checked so it definitely would not get the update? same for the HD7/s, htc surround. they are all discontinued im pretty sure, and discontinued phones dont get updates lol
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
We've seen all the companies do it....Motorola/ Verizon with Bionic, Razr, MaXX, HD in rapid succession. They didn't offer easy hard ware upgrades, and the software apparently was not compatable enough to release to all...

There are times when an upgrade just won't work based on hardware. We all know that..whether we will admit it or not. The very first Gen 1 devices...probably can't play. Gen 2, maybe some. The lumia 800/900, better chance. But, will anyone ( meaning Microsoft/Nokia/ others) want to go there.

After a huge revolt, the Razr Maxx out sold the Rzr and the Bionic. People will buy....period.
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
Yeah lol, i couldnt see the 1st gen getting the update especially since you cant even buy them anymore from retail stores anymore really. unless they have stock for some weird reason. the only phones i could see getting the update is the titan/2 and lumia 800/900 if even that
[Nokia Lumia 900] Realityfalse:
Stoked

Sounds like Microsoft has learned from the mistakes of the bigger OS'. Im glad I made the switch and i dont think Ill be going back.:rolleyes:
[Nokia Lumia 900] Zhariak:
Not saying you're lying or anything, but my Lumia 900 is WAY faster then my Focus. I actually was upset how slow my Focus acted once I had Exchange configured (and sync'ing my retarded number of calendar, contacts, e-mails), along with setting up integration with Facebook, Twitter, etc...

On my Lumia, no slowness whatsoever, menu loading, people loading, messages, and texts, are all real time.
[Nokia Lumia 900] sitizenx:
MSFT doesn't care. Most people are on a two year device upgrade cycle here in the US. Windows 8 phones will not be around in quantity for 6-8 months after the launch of the Lumia 900. So get a free Lumia 900 now or wait half a year+ and pay Lord knows what for a WP 8. I'm going to be 6-8 months into my contract before Windows 8 hits in quantity. And I have no idea when they will be selling at the very reasonable price the Lumia 900 is selling for now.

The average consumer (ie my mom and dad) is not going to care 8 months from now whether their free Lumia 900 can be upgraded to WP 8.

This forum is a tiny subset of the cell phone market. Apple has proven that you can have a multibillion dollar hit by completely ignoring the majority of the things people on this forum find important. I would much rather MSFT ruffle a few feathers in a niche group now and have outstanding software rather than make an "all things to all people" bloatware mess.
[Nokia Lumia 900] hx4700 Killer:
This from Mr. "Let's all write the CEO a letter?!" You are a mixed bag arent you?
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
MSFT doesn't care? When is that even relevant? No company cares? Period. Its all about the bottom line. Period. Argue what they should do, or shouldn't do, its the bottom line...$$$.

Again, as I have said several times in other threads, MSFT is held against a different accountability than other companies. You have no bones about blasting MSFT. Do you blast Apple, Verizon, AT&T, ETC? Do you blast Motorola for releaseing 4 Top End phones within 3 months of each other....just outside of the remorse period of each other?

As long of the hardware required for Apollo is different enough from the gen 1 devices, to make Apollo on those devices, 'not a good experience', why would you even want to go there? Contract be dammed. You won't like what you get. So why blast MSFT over not offering a bad experience. See....you think about $$$ too.

For most Gen 1 devices, your contracts will be up very close to the Apollo release. For those people who were not in on the ground floor, knowledge of Apollo was out...and you should have been aware.

And get this.....when you buy your Apollo device....what comes after Apollo?? :p Oh wait...thats another thread about MSFT doesn't care..... But then again....you may have only been supporting MSFT in their drive here...oh well.....
[Nokia Lumia 900] sitizenx:
Rorschach Test

Just because you don't like a situation doesn't mean you can do anything about it. I only press a point if there is an actual case that can be made. I would certainly like MSFT to put out a WP 8 update for the Lumia 900 if it doesn't ruin the OS with bloatware and code compromises. But I also understand that as of this date at&t and Microsoft have made no statement what so ever about compatibility with a new OS that is still months away. There is zero contractual obligation for them to make WP 8 available for the Lumia 900 and older devices.

Blasting Microsoft?! I love it. In two posts back to back I have two different people quoting the same exact quote and one person is writing me a smartass post because he thinks I'm being too soft on MSFT/at&t and the other guy is jumping down my throat for "blasting MSFT." You guys want to conference and get a unified opinion of my post that I can respond to?

By the way alodar1 I pretty much agree with you... Well I don't agree with you about the holding MSFT to a different standard thing. I have never used an iPhone or Verizon so you won't see me saying much about them one way or the other. That doesn't mean I think they are great. I think you read my first kind of flippant sentence and then went off to the races. Read the whole post.
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
I think I did too....but, You're a hit to have so many varied responses!!! Something for everyone !
[Nokia Lumia 900] sitizenx:
Naw it's probably more indicative of my post not being well written!

I got my Lumia 900 now because it is free and 6-8 months in cell phone years is an eternity. If someone told me that I would be sitting here with a stylish Nokia Windows Phone that had LTE speeds faster than my cable broadband for FREE I wouldn't have believed them.

I like my phone. It works great and Windows Phone 8 dropping six months after I bought my Lumia 900 isn't going to suddenly make my Lumia 900 stop working. All indications are the Lumia 900 is going to get at least two updates before Windows Phone 8 hits (one from Nokia and one from MSFT).

Sure I hope Windows Phone 8 is available for the Lumia 900 but I would rather have MSFT sacrifice backwards compatibility if necessary and have a cutting edge efficient operating system without the bloat.
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
I actually think the real reason is the carriers. They simply do not want you to update an old phone. There is significant cost for them to test. I would wager, #1 reason....is carrier. Even Google can't get away from it....try as they may. Apple can...because of the contracts...but those are running out..so we'll see.
[Nokia Lumia 900] go0gle:
fair enough. But what about the people that buy them unlocked ? The l900 goes for around 600 unlocked I think.. they should provide an update for them at least.

See.. the issue here is not that the phones won't be updated to the latest version, but Wp7 is not mature enough to where it can afford to skip a major update like that. iOS 5 doesn't need an essential update, so if 4s doesn't get 6.0 it won't be a big deal beacuse 5 is already on an acceptable level in terms of functionality. But wp7 is missing some core features.. the bluetooth stack is terrible, it doesn't really multitask, it doesn't support memory cards, no file system browser, no native apps, the camera driver stack is no bueno..

And even if they manage to fix those, win8 is still a brand new kernel...

win8 is an important step forward..
[Nokia Lumia 900] hx4700 Killer:
You can take this straight from the "HTC Files" if you like.

When a carrier buys a phone from a manufacturer they also buy support. 1 year is the standard. Support includes upgrades/fixes. So essentially if the carrier doesnt spring for support you get squat. So THAT is why you don't get upgrades/fixes beyons a certain date.

Now if MS doesnt make the new OS compatible with older hardware then your screwed. I would like to believe that MS throwing in with Nokia and AT&T on this product it will not be left out in the cold but only time will tell.

As my dad used to say "You can wish in one hand and $h!t in the other and see which one gets full first...."
[Nokia Lumia 900] sitizenx:
Maybe. It certainly doesn't make a whole lot of sense to keep adding new features to devices you've already sold. It makes it easier after two years to explain to people why they need to buy a new device... and get a new two year contract. :eek:

In the US that is a tiny install base for a phone like the Lumia 900. If there are R&D costs for such a move and the update will not be available for carrier phones then there is no incentive to spend the money and ensure upgrade compatibility.

Define "mature." My GF's iPhone 4s struggles to download webpages over 4G while she is standing in a wide open park. She watched a streaming HD movie on my Lumia 900 over LTE while I was doing 70 mph on a freeway. The Lumia 900 is a very functional device as is. Plus as mentioned it is getting at least two updates in a matter of a few weeks/months.

Which iPhone supports memory cards?

Which iPhone has a file system browser?

The pictures on my Lumia 900 are fine.

Just because my neighbor gets a new Porsche doesn't mean my Honda automatically breaks and doesn't work anymore. I have a Lumia 900 right now with LTE data and free GPS software. 6 to 8 months after I purchased my Lumia 900 we will see what's available. I simply can't skip getting a free phone as nice as the Lumia 900 because in 6-8 months a new OS is gonna drop from MSFT and maybe Apple. Because when that happens I'm going to wait a few months for prices to come down and then people will be talking about the next great thing and call me an idiot again for buying a phone.
[Nokia Lumia 900] tfn:
The way I see it..

Current phone will most probably get the Appollo update but probably a lean version of it, as windows 8 is built on a metro UI which wp7 is already using so that wont be much of a problem.

The Problem will arise in these situations:

Nokia's Pureview Camera is rumoured to be coming on future wp8 devices which most probably need a better hardware then the current line of wp7's

Also Msft has been rumoured to be coming out with dual core phones in the near future which would also explain the combination of a dual core phone with the 808 camera on board for better multitasking.

With WP8 (apollo) MSFT will probably integrate even more services like google + and skype built right into it with no need for separate apps as such like how its done with facebook and twitter.

As although the software issue may not be as such I guess the hardware will have to be bumped up and there is where the current wp7 will probabbly struggle.

So should we buy the current Wp7?

I think we should as I dont see a wp8 in the next 6 months or even a year, and the current wp7 is queit good enough to last you for atleast a year if not two...

People on 18 month contracts would not have to worry much, but those on 24 months contract might will left out.. so guess the best option is to get the phones on a 12/18 month contracts if possible.

Just my thoughts.

:D
[Nokia Lumia 900] trueblog:
You will never ever catch up with technology. Just buy the phone on the market

Sent via Lumia 900 using Board Express
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aliensquale:
anybody know how to get SWYPE keyboard on this phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
Go to their site, register for the beta, download, install... fairly simple and straightforward.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] htcoveblue:
I tried to install the V6 Supercharger script. I updated the modified services.jar file and ran the script. I rebooted and got stuck in a bootloop. I can get into Recovery Mode. I've tried:

1) Full wipe / install fresh - I can't get past boot animation

2) Full wipe / restore - I get an error on restore data

I've tried formatting data then restoring, but I get the same error. I've tried other backups, same error.

I'm not sure what's left to do. Can anyone help?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaestreetss:
You can connect to the PC mount USB in recovery and put a rom on yuur phone so at least yuu can boot up

sent from my so icey ns4G