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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vro25:
Great news!

I did a factory reset of my phone and reinstalled my most used apps. This time I didn't allow background data use when I setup the phone. I then went in and enabled background data on *my* apps - there are a lot of HTC apps using background data. To be clear, Gmail, Gtalk, Kik all running in the background. After doing tnat, the battery seemed a little better yesterday.

I charged it to 99% at about 9:30pm last night and unplugged it. Two hours later it was still at 99% - not bad! An hour later it was still at 99%. This morning 10hrs after I unplugged it it is STILL at 99%!! Oh, and LTE was enabled... This is nothing short of spectacular.

Now, there could be multiple reasons for this... It could have been one of the HTC apps, it could have been the Amazon MP3 app which for some reason was using data even thought it wasn't working because HTC locks the country to Canada or it could have been the battery just calibrating itself as this was the 3rd charge. Or it could have been all of the above.

I'm thinking the background apps had a lot to do with it as the battery details this morning showed almost zero awake time with the screen turned off - this was not the case the past few days.

I can't wait to see how it behaves the rest of the day :-)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jonathanyong:
From my experience of using the phone, and from other comments I've seen on xda, the battery percentage doesn't seem to update properly when in standby. So when you switch it on, it gives a false indication of how much juice has been used overnight. Once you start using it after a long period on standby, you should notice the battery percentage drop about 10% after 10 mins of use or thereabouts.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Does that mean words like "tuque" and "twofer" will pop up? :-P

Great writeup so far, especially with a little kiddo running around. Being a dad of a toddler myself, I'm impressed and thankful for you putting this together.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] hannibal2469:
One x vs one xl

Hi

I have a choice between the one x and the one xl my friend bought both of them

and is selling one of them to me which one should i choose???

i have a few questions but before that i would like to say that i dont really care for 4g lte other than the fact that it would give me that sense of futureproofing

1. does the xl have better battery life than the one x

2. does the xl really perform better than the one x

3. will i really need 4 cores for at least 2 years

4. is gaming better in the one x than the one xl
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
1. the xl is better on battery, almost twice as good.

2. performance is about the same, a little snappier on the xl.

3. nobody knows the future, but i doubt it.

4. the gaming should be better on the x as it has a better gpu, but most game manufactures will cater to the "weakest link" so the x will play anything that anybody makes.

if i were you, i would get the xl, but that is just me. keep in mind the x has some glitches that need to be worked out (although most can be fixed with a rom). also the xl only has 16gb (10gb usable) of memory so if you think you need more, that may be a discernment.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TOA Duck:
Someone in another forum posted that they could not get Pandora to work on the att display model. Is it working for you guys that have one or have tried one?

Stay thirsty my friends
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vro25:
Well, it now has about 13 minutes of "screen on" and the battery dropped to 94% just after I took that screenshot.

The single screen on blips in the first 3/4's of the screen shot are me turning on the screen to check the power situation. The last bit (with wifi is turned off) is me using the phone at work (email, phone call, Gtalk).

94% and the phone has been off the charger for 14hrs is pretty great no matter how you slice it. We'll see how it lasts the rest of the day...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jonathanyong:
Yeh that's pretty good! btw my comments were about the Tegra3 version. Wish we were getting the S4 version here in the UK.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] hannibal2469:
Thanks for the reply

but can anyone confirm that the one xl indeed has better battery life and also i have heard that the one x has a better gpu than the s4 one xl but it is only marginally better

and also could anyone explain to me why the s4 is not a clear winner in terms of cpu peformance because bencmarks from anandtech show the s4 destroying the tegra3

and could anyone tell me how much better the galaxy s3 processor would be compared to the s4 because from what i have heard the s3 will still use a cortex a9 design whereas the s4 has the krait architecture
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BoostedSR20:
Just had a chance to play with a demo unit at AT&T. Didn't spend much time with it (maybe 5 minutes) all I really had time to do was play around with the UI, and compare the screen to my Gnex.

First impression, VERY smooth. (but no different than my gnex?) Did load things faster than the gnex. Build seemed nice, (hard to tell with the security devices attached)

The screen is amazing. Kinda seems like its floating above the glass, instead of sunken below it. Hard to describe. Viewing angles are just silly. From an angle, its still perfect, and really appears to be floating on top. So I loaded a photo of mine in the browser, then in my Gnex to compare..... I was pretty torn. I set the brightness on both phones to the same (50%) and the Nex seemed like it was brighter/more vibrant. And this photo really has no blacks. (I have color/gamma fairly cranked with my kernel, so I'm sure color is blown to hell) As for resolution, the One X does seem sharper somehow. Its also hard to describe with words, but it did look better with text, and stuff in the notification bar. I really couldn't decide which I liked better, but I think if I went to the One X, I wouldn't miss the Nexus screen *too* much.

Sense was kinda lame.. but not like I remember from other phones. I guess I could get used to/deal with it. Everything (like the settings menu) was too damn colorful.

Overall pretty awesome. Still not sure I would keep it over my Gnex.. I needed more time with it. But first impression, if I somehow lost the Nex, and had to use the One X, I really don't think I would be upset.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] BarryH_GEG:
A little ambitious there...

1. the xl is better on battery, almost twice as good. (It appears about 25ish% based on screen on time and it's too early to call a final result as there aren't enough XL's out and there will be additional updates to the X.)

2. performance is about the same, a little snappier on the xl. (Teg3 is a more powerful chip; especially for gaming. S4 holds its own well though and in most situations you wouldn't be able to tell the difference)

3. nobody knows the future, but i doubt it. (Teg3 smokes S4 using multi-threaded apps. The SGS3 is quad-core and based on the volume we know will be sold you should start to see more optimized apps that will run better with more cores; including Jelly Bean.)

4. the gaming should be better on the x as it has a better gpu, but most game manufactures will cater to the "weakest link" so the x will play anything that anybody makes. (See above. There are games you can play on Teg3 and can't on S4 and vice versa. Teg chips provide developers with additional low-level calls and drivers that can improve performance and design.)

As will the XL. Wait until it hits AT&T in volume; this forum will light up like a Christmas tree. No device or OS update released in the past six months hasn't had issues.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
I can't really notice a difference ...

In all honesty, I haven't yet noticed a difference when browsing on Wifi. They are both remarkably responsive. However, if I use only data, then the Rogers unit is much faster.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Thank you for the humour ...

LOL, I'm still laughing concerning the tuque and twofer words. Although, in all seriousness, I really should check to see if it recognizes tuque. I should also check if it recognizes a few other Canadian spellings, such as:

Colour

behaviour

cheque

I'll let you know.

Peter

Addendum: It does not recognize colour. It automatically choses color. However, if you type cheque, it recognizes it. It also recognizes toque (tuque was spelled wrong).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Haven't compared audio yet ...

I can only comment on notification sounds, which are different. The Rogers unit seems to be a bit more tinny, with slightly more reverb. I have to admit, I think I prefer the sound on the International unit; however, this may be ROM related, since both units are using different ROMs.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
I'm getting the same thing ...

As I had mentioned in an earlier post, when the Rogers unit is in sleep mode, it uses virtually zero battery. I turned off my phone at 11pm last night, at which time it automatically went into airplane mode, and the battery was still at 100% at 7am this morning.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
No, not here ...

Mine did not display that behaviour. Even after another hour of limited use, it still showed 99%.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vro25:
How do you expect anyone to provide you with this information?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
A little ambitious there...Thanks!

1. the xl is better on battery, almost twice as good. (It appears about 25ish% based on screen on time and it's too early to call a final result as there aren't enough XL's out and there will be additional updates to the X.)

it's more than 25%, not double, but way more than 25%, depends on your usage.

2. performance is about the same, a little snappier on the xl. (Teg3 is a more powerful chip; especially for gaming. S4 holds its own well though and in most situations you wouldn't be able to tell the difference)

t3 is in fact "more powerful", it takes alot of power to run it so i guess your right. :D but seriously, the s4 is the better cpu, the t3 does have a better gpu though.

3. nobody knows the future, but i doubt it. (Teg3 smokes S4 using multi-threaded apps. The SGS3 is quad-core and based on the volume we know will be sold you should start to see more optimized apps that will run better with more cores; including Jelly Bean.)

yes, there will be apps and games that can be made to run better on a quadcore, but over just two years, no, you will not need a quadcore. just keep in mind, in two years you will not have the "best" phone. but it will still work and run most things.

4. the gaming should be better on the x as it has a better gpu, but most game manufactures will cater to the "weakest link" so the x will play anything that anybody makes. (See above. There are games you can play on Teg3 and can't on S4 and vice versa. Teg chips provide developers with additional low-level calls and drivers that can improve performance and design.)

similar to the games that were t2 only? yeah, everbody has them. they run fine on non-t2. the same will be with the t3. there may be a game or two that nvidia will pay to make the game look better on t3 than other phones, but i am willing to bet they will still work on non-t3...

As will the XL. Wait until it hits AT&T in volume; this forum will light up like a Christmas tree. No device or OS update released in the past six months hasn't had issues.

yes, issues with most things, but most get fixed. just saying as of now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vro25:
Just out of curiosity, what's the purpose of having an airplane mode profile at night - do you not normally charge your phone at night in which case battery drain wouldn't be an issue? Also, what do you use for profile management? I've been using Llama and I'm quite pleased with it.

For me, that's not a very realistic test as I don't keep my phone in airplane mode as it makes it less useful ;-)

I'm specifically testing the battery drain (with radios on) when the screen is asleep - as that is the state my phones are in 90% of the time. It would be interesting to see the results of a similar test with your One X.

That said, I think @jonathanyong is correct about a battery bug. At 12:30 I went to check the battery and it was at 91 and proceeded to fall down to 88, 86 and finally 85 in the time it took me to check the battery history and get a screen shot. Then, while taking the screen shot the phone locked up and rebooted. When I went back to check battery history it had been reset.

None the less, it's still been pretty good.

Tonight I will do a side by side test with my Galaxy Nexus.

I look forward to the One X/XL battery comparisons.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
I do not charge through the night ...

I do not charge my phone through the night. I usually charge it during the evening. By the time 11pm rolls around, it's already fully charged. I use airplane mode because I don't want to be disturbed.

Oh, I've tried a dozen profile managers. The one I'm using right now is PhoneWeaver. It seems to work extremely well. However, I seem to be having issues with the ONE X concerning Wifi. For some strange reason, all the profile managers are having an issue with this phone, where they didn't with all my previous phones. I'm trying to get it resolved but, so far, no luck.

I do plan on performing such a test very soon. I'll let you know the results.

There is one problem I'm having with my comparison efforts. When I have both phones on, I get a "restricted access change" notification on my Rogers unit. It's the one that currently has the SIM card installed. This notification never happens when only my Rogers unit is powered on. I think it may have to do with an issue involving two phones being on at the same time. Perhaps Rogers can, somehow, realize this. I don't know. It seems strange. Any ideas? Addendum: I do realize that phones will operate without a SIM, but only for calling 911. Somehow I think it's related ... two IMEI's in my possession trying to access their network simultaneously. Again, I don't know.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vro25:
I also think the LTE version makes the most sense.

I think CPU is more or less a wash.

Graphics are better on the T3, but I don't think it will be noticeable in real life. While there are Tegra versions of games, I think with the capable graphics of the Adreno 225 chip on the One series and Mali on Samsung's Exynos chips, developers are more likely to create better graphics for non-Tegra chips. That said, if you spend most of your time gaming on your phone and would notice the difference, get the T3 version.

On the other hand, if your gaming consists of Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja and Draw Something - than there will be no difference. I have never used a phone to it's fullest gaming "potential" - just not that fun outside of casual games.

I don't think any apps (outside of benchmarks) are going to tax either CPU.

The other difference would be battery life and LTE.

I think battery life will be more or less the same. Which is to say, not enough of a difference that I won't be able to make it through the day. The biggest battery drain on my phones are the Screen and Radio. Ending the day with 35% vs. 45% (hypothetically) battery isn't a deal breaker for me as long as I get through the day - I charge my phone every night.

The last bit is LTE. I don't live/work in an LTE area so I can't say how much more of a (if at all) drain it is on the battery. I do like the fact that it is there and if I'm out of the house I can download/upload something VERY FAST if need be (as I occasionally have need to do). The fact that I can download and upload an 800MB ISO on my phone in less than 10 minutes BLOWS MY MIND.

The best part of the phone is frankly the phone itself, it's beautiful, so you're good either way.

---------- Post added at 02:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:23 PM ----------

That is *really* strange. I have several phones that I have used with my Rogers SIM that leave on (wifi) all the time. As far as Rogers is concerned, if the SIM isn't in the phone it's not on your account. I'd be interested to see a screen shot of the error message you're getting. Could it have something to do with a Rogers app you have installed?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
You may be on to something ...

You know, you may be on to something. As it is a Rogers phone, it comes with Rogers apps (bloatware?). There is only one of these Rogers apps that I use on occasion. It's called My Rogers, and very quickly allows me to see my current account summary, such as number of phone minutes used in the current month, and total data used in the current month. I use (have used) this app on both phones. Perhaps there's some kind of weird conflict.

The next time I get this warning message, I'll take a screenshot and submit it here.

One more thing I can tell you concerning this issue is that I cannot make voice phone calls when both phones are on, even the one with the SIM installed. The moment I power down the non-SIM phone, I am then able to make voice calls on the SIM phone.

Yes ... very, very strange.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Thank you for the “Llama” suggestion …

Wow, I've been trying profile manager after profile manager over the last several days in hopes of finding one that doesn't exhibit the same strange issue. I never heard of Llama until you mentioned it above.

I installed it a few hours ago and, lo and behold, it seems to be working perfectly. I'll continue to monitor the app to see if it makes the proper profile changes.

Thank you!

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Is there a way to enable the CRT animation when you turn your screen off?

Can you enable the ICS keyboard instead of the HTC keyboard?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] hannibal2469:
Thanks guys for your replies

But event after this all i can say for sure is that if im gonna use lte than the one xl should be the one and if i wanna use the quad core optimised apps a few years down the line the one x is the way to go also the one x has higher storage

im still confused i think i will just go with the one xl i just like the fact that it has the better chip in terms of cpu and same in terms of gpu also i like the 4g part of the chip

so thanks again
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Hemlocke:
The CPU is better on the XL, but the GPU is not.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vro25:
No problem!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tian105:
Peter,

Thank you for your valuable time to do the reviews and answering questions.

I have one question for you.

How is the phone call quality on the XL? The reason why i ask: I had a HTC desire HD back in the days, and during phone calls, i could barely hear what the person im talking to is saying.

one more question, is the speaker loud enough on the XL?

I will be passing up the X and to get the XL instead. For the following reasons:

1. better battery life.

2. LTE

3. More snappiness due to OS utilization?

4. Quadcore is useless to me in real life. Why? because the first quadcore desktop CPU launched almost 7 years ago. Even until now, software developers are just slowly learning to utilize more than two cores.

Ready to buy, tomorrow!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] hannibal2469:
but the question is is the LTE, and tiny bit of extra battery life on the one xl really good enough to forgo the extra 16 gb memory of the one x

coz the the difference in cpu performance and gpu performance is not enough to make u choose one phone over the other

also can anyone tell if there is any difference in price between the two? is the one xl really cheaper than the one x and if yes by how much ?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shaboobla:
One of the BIGGEST things to take into consideration is developer support. These two phones are different enough that porting things might not be worth the hassle for devs. If your favorite dev team has the international version and you don't, well you're SOL.

This is one of the biggest factors for me personally.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NFLBLitz:
Hey how do you connect to a flash drive? Would LOVE to know about this. I was always curious if we could do that
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vro25:
Well that's wasn't a very good guess...

Try over 2hrs using 9+GB available.

A 15 minute file is just over 1GB.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NFLBLitz:
Any chance we can remove that partition?

Just curious, do you think that we will be able to merge the ~2gb from the app partition with the general use storage? I would love to have that 11GB of space vs 9GB you know?

Have you flashed Lee's ROM on your Rogers phone yet? If so does it work well? I would love to flash my phone out of the box if I can get some confirmation that it works on the ATT/Rogers version.

Thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jhuynh:
FYI, someone on HoFo said they tried a Wind SIM after they unlocked the phone and it didn't work on their Rogers One X.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...TC-One-X-work-on-Wind?p=14788508#post14788508

Edit: oops I meant to post this in the other thread.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Call quality and speaker sound quite good ...

Although I'm not a sound expert, by any means, I will try to answer your question based simply on my opinion.

The phone call quality seems to be very good. I can hear everyone clearly, and the volume is more than sufficient. The sound coming out of the speaker is also good, although, as I mentioned in an earlier post, the sound on the Rogers unit seems to be a bit tinny when compared to the International unit, and with a bit more reverb. For me it doesn't matter, but I did notice the slight difference.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Prices are different, but ...

I bought my International unit from OnTheGo Solutions in the US for $740, and my Rogers unit from Rogers for $625. However, the International unit was rooted, and comes with a warranty. If I root the Rogers phone, warranty is gone.

There are cheaper prices for the International unit, but they are not rooted and, like Rogers, if you DO root it, you lose your warranty.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
I agree about development, but ...

I agree with you about development, but I have no doubt in my mind that, once the AT&T unit is out, development will soar.

Bottom line, this issue really does not worry me. However, I will say that I'm waiting with baited breath for root capabilities AND ability to perform S-OFF.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
We don't even have ROOT yet, I think ...

I haven't flashed anything yet. I don't think anyone has even developed the tools to ROOT it. I'm waiting very patiently, though.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Maedhros:
just an update on my screen issue...

I took it to go get exchanged today. The unit they had out was pure yellow.

Compared to their unit mine looked white! They refused to exchange my unit so I ended up returning.

They refused to acknowledge that there were different screens on the unit despite having a completely ****ty unit on display...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] expertzero1:
They probably havnt gotten the memo yet, htc or your carrier will let those stores know about the defect or something lol if..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] fcng:
Great job...

Peter, your doing a great job supplying all the information on the HOX XL vs. HOX. :)