yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
All right haha

:p I guess so! I wish the N7 and all other Nexus devices still came with the stock browser. I really dislike Chrome, I still find the stock browser superior...

I wonder if there is a way to get it...

Definitely will get one given the opportunity. If I get a N7, won't feel the need to get a N4, as the N7 hardware is so good it can do all I want and more.

Yeah, I thought the same too. Swap my Tab for the N7, sell my S2 and DS for the N4, and I will have the perfect Nexus world! :p

But yeah... Yeah its likely to be the 18th according to insiders. There will be no leaks though, as the software is already stable.

Will he excited to get my hand on TW5. Personally TW has grown on me, I like the UI a lot.

This is my current homescreen, I love the layout so much.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I'm sure there is one, maybe just a regular APK, but there is defintely a flashable ZIP for all ROMs. Most ROMs (including AOKP) have it by default instead of chrome since thats available on the Play Store ;)
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
I know what your saying makes sense but iPad?... I don't think I could ever bring myself to own an apple product! It would go against everything I believe in! I guess the best thing to do is wait and see if the N7 grows on me (no pun intended) :p

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That's interesting info regarding the JB update. Let's hope it's true!

Nice home screen setup too. I also use screen off and lock;) its simple yet brilliant.

Ps Southport ain't too far from my hometown of Leyland ;)
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
You guys, I have a feeling the N4 is going to discount a lot of people... hold on to your horses for a few months before taking the plunge, somehow LG just doesn't feel right. It's has NEVER pushed across a device that stood out for quality and performance, and getting it all right in one shot is a pretty tall order... let's wait for the end user reviews before y'all take the plunge.

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
OK, so I've got a £140 offer on my DS which is pretty good, it doesn't generally sell well.

This will pretty much raise my funds for the N7. However, I'm having second thoughts from parting with my phone... we've been through so much together... :(

From the moment I unboxed it, to the days of Hyperion, Endymion, and more recently Fallout... its been through a lot!

And, if I sell it and get a N7, I would still have my Galaxy Tab which is pretty much pointless once I have the N7.

The ideal situation would be to sell the tab and get the N7...

My DS is still pretty handy now. Its small and portable and I use it as my media player (since my iPod touch buttons are all almost dead its 4 and a half years old!)

Decisions...
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Could part with my ds unless absolutely necessary.

"I don’t suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it"
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
From the sounds of that little lot you already know what the only sensible decision is :good:
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Be practical Oly and sell the DS if you are getting a good deal.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Got to admit, the price offered is good. I'd maybe consider at that price average it's about 100 quid on a good day,.

I'm your huckleberry
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Just reread my post and should have made it clearer. You should sell both the DS and the Tab.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
@Oly

have to follow the masses - SELL!
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Agreed. I doubt you'll get a better offer. It's only getting older. Plus with the nexus, you know it's not going anywhere for a while.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Sometimes I feel that you guys just fell in love with this phone:D
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
[SANCTUARY] Ex-Desire S Users Hangout Lounge

May I also introduce another new thread (same purpose) [SANCTUARY] Ex-Desire S Users Hangout Lounge all is explained in the title and made clearer in the OP (its not OT this is the place for that!)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
It was my first phone, so I kinda did :p:p:p
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Thanks for the input guys :)

Thanks! I will have a lot of extra money left over ;)

Maybe I can buy a Nexus 7 3G! Or even an iPad Mini! :D

The DS will actually be sold to one of my brothers friends. (12 years old)

He already has an S3 (and previously a S2 and Galaxy S) and he wanted to buy a One V as a music player because of beats audio.

So now I can offer him cheaper alternative with beats audio (thanks Fallout ;)) Never knew the Beats gimmick will help! ;)

My deal is fair however, I'm not trying to scam him. I will be providing loads of accessories too, and he knows his Android stuff. (knows how to root etc)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Christ, Oly you sure know how to make someone feel OLD! :p
[HTC Desire S] nodeffect:
She's my first wife lol..
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Mine was Wildfire S, though I wanted Desire S to begin with. Had to go with WS because we didn't have enough money back then, but luckily I did buy DS later. Happy as hell

iPad mini? What would you need that useless toy for?
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
For £140 I would definitely sell! I'm still trying to sell my 2nd ds. It's been on eBay for over a week now at £115 buy it now and it's still not sold!

If u go with the N7 let me know..... I'll probably join you soon as I get he funds for my DS. :D
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Wow, this thread moved fast, missed your replies! Thanks a lot!

Couldn't agree more on that Dan, makes logical sense! Thanks!

@Ben, glad to see another thread there! Good luck with getting your order tracked tomorrow! I'm sure the Google page will be down and servers loaded!

Yeah, was just kidding, as much as I like the ipad minis form factor, don't think I can live with the grainy screen and iOS.

Thanks mate ;)

Yeah definitely will! Shame our DS doesn't sell well anymore!

Will see tomorrow if he likes the phone... time to flash Fallout once again! ;)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Cheers Oly! If anyone has capacity fortunately its them! :good::fingers-crossed:

As an Ex (or soon to be) yourself, please feel free to pop along and say hello [SANCTUARY] Ex-Desire S Users Hangout Lounge ;) ....As I can't actively promote the new thread in the N4 forum as it will only get shut down (again), I'm mainly relying on here the [OFF TOPIC] thread for all and any promotion......:D

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Anyone tried the new Viper Sense 4.1 ROM yet? what do you think? I know that's not really OT but, is it worth me moving from Fallout?
[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
Do it oly, £140 is an amazing price!

I've been bitten by the "I want a Nexus" bug recently. Absolutely love the DS and couldn't have made a better choice for the first smartphone. But I've got a year left on my contract... so I'm wondering whether I sell the DS and get the Nexus now (or in a while) while the DS is still worth something. A year's a long time!

This may just be me in "shiny new thing" mode though...
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Samsung has done it right with the S3!
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
You reckon? :eek: I think it is just too damn big, and I'm not convinced by the new features. "Designed for humans..." with bl00dy big hands.

Think I'm going to be going for the Sony Experia then after that announcement, especially at the monthly costs they're likely to want for it.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Quite impressive. But they have blatantly copied Apple and HTC. They copied Siri, and the One's burst mode and dropbox integration.

No wonder they are getting sued. Also, the feature where the device will stay awake when you are looking at it is pretty cool (using the FFC) but doesn't that drain battery, if the FFC has to be active at all times?

TBH, I still think the SGS2 is amazing. The S2 was a great step up to the original, but somehow for me, the SGS3 just doesnt seem that good..
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
People seem disappointed but i'm not sure what they expected! They've seem to have outdone every other company. I'm not keen on the shape or the usual plastic or the fact that samsung has a desire to be like apple but I think they've done a very good job. I'll wait for some good reviews but i think right now it has impressed me.Now it just has to hold its own against the iPhone 5.

I've never been a big fan of Sony in the android market. They just don't seem to do as good as they do in other markets (TVs, cameras, etc.). HTC has been plagued with problems and even if the Galaxy S3 was a load of rubbish, it would still be worth it for the fact that Samsung is developer friendly.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
The bezel has been narrowed so the screen is 22 per cent larger, unit itself is "not that much bigger" - Quote from Samsung ;)

Roughly the same size as a SGS2 then, which IMO is a nice footprint.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
I'm sold on the SGS3.

If nothing else, the exynos' low consumption, along with the 2100mAh battery is enough for me to go for it!
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Are you going to pre-order one? :eek:

Have the new features of TouchWiz impressed you?
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
+1 was going to wait for the new nexus phone but this monster looks too good to pass on. Samsung seem to actually encourage their dev community too, which is another bonus for flashaholics like me :)
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Imho gs3 is a kind of disappointment... Pen tile screen, fugly as hell, siiize, mali 400.

Meh... I shall wait... We have time, my dear... *gently kisses trusty desire s and putting it back in the pocket*
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
LOL, my thoughts exactly.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
period.

Sent by my fingers to your head.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
I know Samsung always makes plastic phones, but is it just me or does the GS3 just look EXTRA cheap?
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
"not that much bigger"??? It is 16% larger than the S2 - which is just too damn big for my liking. 16% is a lot of growth - my pockets aren't that big (either financially or physically).

Carphonewarehouse in the UK are offering a free Galaxy Tab for the first 1000 pre-orders, although to get an unlimited data tariff you need £199 up front and £36 per month :eek:
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
The back of the SGS3 does look shiny cheapish... Plus the arrangement of the speaker, flash and camera are too symmetrical (and so last year). God, this is irritating. I still feel that as far as looks are concerned, the OneX kicks its ass big time. But the way I see it, the pros and cons can be broadly summarized as below:

PROS:

1. Removable battery - can pull out to cut short a hung device (what happens when you get an unresponsive One X in bootloop or simply hung? You can't pull hte battery can you? So you wait for the 1800mAh battery to discharge itself over time while probably running only on the companion core? Good luck with that if you started out with a 95% charge!)

2. Expandable memory - for those who want more. What's the point of having a super sexy HD screen if you cant carry a load of movies with you when you're going out? Add to that the fact that most HD games nowadays have downloadable files in the range of a couple of gigs... Plus, don't forget the GOLDCARD. How do you make one for the One X if you want to flash an RUU with a different region code?

3. Fully Unlocked bootloader - in keeping with Samsung's dev-friendly policy.

4. 2100 mAh battery - any elaboration required? Go over to the One X forum and look what they're saying about the battery life there. 4.7-4.8 inch screens need more juice - period (especially more so when you can't use a spare battery or enhanced battery pack)

CONS:

1. Doesn't have SENSE. Need I say more? :p

2. Doesn't have the cosmetic Oomph and the premium feel that HTC somehow manages to recreate in all its handsets (well, maybe except for the One V - looks like turd) - Plasticky body, glossy fingerprint magnet of a shell and an overall uninspiring shape.

3. Older Mali400 GPU - I don't think it will bw able to hold a candle to the nVidia prowess of the One X. The guys reinvented graphics hardware for God's sake!

Just my thoughts. Feel free to agree or disagree - I'm seriously in a fix now. I think I'll have to go down Bronx's philosophy lane and stick to the DS a little longer now... was seriously itching to go for a larger screen after 1 year. 3.7 inches just isn't cutting it anymore, and the 1GHz single core is showing its age too. The price is no longer an issue for me now, but the warranty sure is, so HTC has me in a fix now...
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Why the hell they all forgot about users who doesn't need a tv in their pockets? Not all of us are watching movies on the go. I wonder if we will see any new flagship with ~4" screen. :(

Sony, moto..?

Oh, btw. I was hd2 user for more than a year, and 4.3" is definitely too much for me. Multimedia device? Yes. Pocketable phone to operate with one hand? No.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I would love a 4.3 inch device, One S seems perfect, but the micro arc oxidation gets chipped to easily. I would get a silver one (without MAO) but the dev support is 0 when compared to One X. I can live with the pentile display, but no dev support is a dealbreaker.

Conparing the S3 and One X, what i see is -

Screen - One X is slightly better, pentile vs. non pentile

Processor - Draw S3 has a better cpu but the Tegra 3's GPU destroys the Mali 400

Software/Dev Support - S3, it's no secret that htc dev unlock sucks.

Design - One X, the S3 is pretty ugly IMO.

Sent from a device waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
I don't know man... Whichever way you look at it, it's going to come down to a compromise. Maybe ill just wait for something else to come... This is so irritating!!!:mad:

IMO, the perfect phone would be a One Z with the specs of the One X and a removable 2200 mAh battery ala the SGNote, expandable memory and a full S-Off method that is fully revertable to S-On stock. I wouldn't bat an eyelid even if that cost 40,000 INR

Sent from a Desire S still looking for a good replacement.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
I also had a quick look at my sisters brand new one s today. And I really fell in love with my ds again. One s is slim, but that makes it feel less worthy imho. it's lighter, which improves the less worth effect. I'm not that impressed by the screen size, oh-my-god effect was bigger with sensation or galaxy note. Additionally the not removable battery, no sd card, buggy micro arc oxidation.

S3 seems to make few things better. Removable battery, sd card are big pros for me. But it looks so cheap, it's incredible. Samsung does really try to give their customers what they want, but really fails when it comes to design and material. the guys at HTC are doing what they want without Care about customers opinions.

I'm gonna wait until next year, when my contract runs out and I'm gonna get the next cheap device. maybe we'll see the next HTC with removable battery and SD card?

Sent by my fingers to your head.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Why am I always double posting??
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
I think the advent of cloud storage is heavily influencing HTC's decision to avoid MicroSD slots, along with trying to make the thinnest phone. TBH I hate the entire concept of cloud storage. I don't want all my stuff stored on some random server, nor do I have unlimited data to constantly receive these files. The main point of large storage, IMO, is to put stuff like movies and music. And when do you listen/watch? Usually when commuting. And what happens when you commute? You have poor signal, if any. So how are you going to be able to stream music and movies? How on earth does cloud storage make any sense? What are you gonna do with it, store 25 GB worth of contacts and pictures? Yeah sure.
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
If you can live with the "everything is smaller" feeling its Rosie is pretty smooth and the battery live seems great. Not to mention the customization possibilities

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Let's hope these updated benchmarks are right!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1977708

Blows away everything else!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Well, I really liked it, it has the best tweaks app I've ever seen. Venom hub takes customization to a whole new level. But, now that I've gotten used to JB and the blazing fast Andromadus, I couldn't stay there for even a day :p

@dan-fish: Ignore benchmarks. Right now, they don't mean much. Remember when JB came out and we got much lower scores than ICS even though it was visibly faster? Well, I'm sure it's the same. Even these new benchmarks don't show the true performance, the reviews state that it's clearly the fastest phone ever. It has an Adreno 320 and a quad core S4 chip. What do you expect ? ;)
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
It's nice, I've been running it since yesterday, and its not bad at all. Well worth looking at seeing as I know you like sense, the future ota could be good as well. The customizations make it a whole new experience. Don't think I'll stay on it though. I like aokp too much

I'm your huckleberry
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
So after counting my money and selling my Wii, PSP and my old LEGO I´m now possible to buy the Nexus 4 :D

Hopefully I can see you guys in the devs-threads or meet you at some other threads.... (as it seems the Ex Desire S off topic thread is closed)

But I think I will be not so active because I have much to do at school and the threads are going to explode when so much users own such a device :/

Last I want to thank you guys for helping and porting so much ROMs :D
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Good point! :p I just got all happy that it destroyed the iPhone 5.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Thanks Dan I hadn't seen that yet, but glad to say that I'd discounted the previous results as they just couldn't be correct, considering that the device has the same H/W as the Optimus G and all the early reviews had only reported super slick device usability!

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Glad to hear it, don't fear I re-opened a new thread in a safer place , pop along [SANCTUARY] Ex-Desire S Users Hangout Lounge
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Ugh... I'm planning to get N4, but went to my local three shop today to play with note 2 and boy... This is awesome device. Couldn't believe how well it fits in my fairly tight pocket. I dunno... Time spent with my N7 have changed my point of view on big screens. :rolleyes: Decisions, decisions...
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
But note 2! It's huuuuuge! :eek:
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
I know! You have to get one in your hands though. I couldn't believe how pocketable such slab could be.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Nice to see you around ;)

Still on Endymion? Note 2 either way is a fantastic device.

Wouldn't go for one myself, but the phablet is a beast. Would be the best of both worlds!
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
You know what? I am still on Endy 3.4 (best version imho) and seriously, d.s is still quite a decent phone. To be honest, leaving gaming and video to n7 makes desire S more than adequate as a main device. However, like most of us I want MORE. ;)

I was the one to hate big screens the most, but got used to them thanks to n7. I guess I'll get n4 and save the upgrade for next big thing... ;)
[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
This is what I'm going through! Except with Andromadus instead. The DS does everything I want, is a great size, and I can watch or play most things I want on it.

But the N4 is new.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
And shiny! ;)

SHINY THING, I WANT IT!

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
Think I'm part magpie. Willing to forego necessities like food, rent, and underwear for a slightly bigger screen to rub my greasy fingers all over.

Another thing is... I kind of love how much effort it's taken to get JB on our DS. Even from Endy, where I started, through Fallout and IceCream, and after sound blackouts it's been amazing to now be at a stage where JB is essentially fully functional and pretty much my ideal. My worry is getting a phone with a PROPER fully working JB Rom won't allow me to fiddle and switch Roms every other day. I NEED IMPERFECTION.

I'm sure the N4 will have loads of new Roms and whatever android versions come next, but it won't be the same. We started with gingerbread, man.

</needanewhobby>
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
My precious... :P
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
Confused between N4 & the Note 2 ! :confused:
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Confused? :eek: They look totally different to me :p
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
That's wrong, they look the same size in that pic

"When it comes to thought, some people stop at nothing".
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Yeah, but one is black and one's white - can't get much more different ;)
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Don't think I could cope with a n4 the size of a note 2, that things a monster

"When it comes to thought, some people stop at nothing".
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
Confused, cuz :

N4 isn't gonna be available soon here in India & It won't be as cheap as it is in the US .

Also, if i ask a friend to get 1 for me from the US , I'll have to do away with warranty.

The Note 2 is a splendid device , with a huge screen + the S Pen capabilities.

But, i'll have to rely on Samsung for the updates. Whereas, the N4 will always have the latest & greatest from Google!

Also, the Note 2 costs almost (approximately) twice that of the N4 , But is immediately available !
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
When you say do-away with Warranty? surely if you friend stays as the devices registered owner, then the warranty stays in his name, so you'd have to return it to him in the US in order to return the unit under warranty return......although this might prove to be costly in the event of device failure it certainly isn't the same as doing away with the warranty!? and still a better option than owning a dead device.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
It's already available in Mumbai for 24K...

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Could you tell us what do you mean? Nexus 4?

Anyway... temperature throttling on s4 pro in n4 seems to be a bit worrying thing. Hopefuly it's a software problem. :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
Thanks for your inputs, Guys!

@ ben : sending the device back to US ( in case of issues) would be a pain... Considering that i'd have to wait for someone to travel to US (or ship it back) ... But, that is only if there are any issues.

Otherwise, should be a good deal though...

@ amit : the 24 K (8 GB) price is the one from ebay, right?

Some reseller is importing the handset (from the US) and providing seller's warranty for them...

It'll be available 10th December onwards.

Sent from my HTC Desire S

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Yap, N4.

Also, i've read about the device getting hot due to the temperature throttling issue. Also, some reviews talk about a dismal battery life.

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I would choose the Nexus 4 over the Note II. Firstly, the Note II is a bit larger than the N4. The difference isn't huge, but it makes a big differnece since the N4 is itself prettu big. Even though it won't be as cheap as the Play Store price, it will still be cheaper than the Note II. Plus it's a Nexus. It's the closest thing to "future proof" you can find. This isn't even a fait contest, you may compare the HTC DLX to Note II, but the N4 Is a clear winner by virtue of its price (at least 5000 cheaper, maybe more if we're lucky).
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Yeah... Still haven't decided. Probably will get n4 and if it's not good enough I'll push it on ebay.

After that, seriously thinking about waiting much longer, even until spring. It's not like my desire s/nexus 7 combo will get completely useless in next six months.

So... N4 for me or oh-so-lovely desire s I guess... ;)

Skipping note 2. Loving it's features, but size is a bit too much. Imho using it makes one look ultra geek and at this moment in life I need to look really professional.