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[HTC One X] Johnny0906:
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?

Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.

The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.

Its Tegra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.

What is the problem?

I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.

My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.

This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.

I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).

One thing they have to adress is the camera, why cant the image files be bigger than 2.9 megapixels? This is so stupid considering it has an 8 mpx camera... Also the full HD and 720p records in the latest firmware 1.28xx at approximately 24 fps and it should be 29 or 30. My Asus Prime records at a steady 30 fps at 1080p and 720p and its running Tegra 3 too.

They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?

I LOVE the weather graphics but I could live without it too (If I absolutely HAVE to....) the only thing necessary is the camera sense app because its the only thing that makes the phone unique and very fun and nice (but again whats the point without proper battery life?)

I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best first quad-core phone.

Another thing I noticed with SetCpu is that the phone is very high frequencies very frequently, if you install it and use the phone for a day you will see the graph scale, it uses 1.4 abut 40% of the time, but why? I never played games during this period or anything.

Im gonna keep my 1X because I love it and I believe in it and in the HTCdevs if they cant just be more positive perhaps :)

Cheers!
[HTC One X] Arthur Hucksake:
4-4.5 hrs screen on isn't typical usage that the majority are getting though. Closer to 3 hrs.

It's easier to be quick to judge others when your own device defies the norm for the better.

If you were struggling to get 2.5 hrs , I doubt you'd be as chirpy about it all.
[HTC One X] Evil-Dragon:
Two words that will help battery life without HTC - "custom kernels"

If you need to see the difference they make just ask in one of faux's threads, e.g. in the Sensation dev forum.
[HTC One X] webjunky:
did the update improve the batterie life and if so , does the HOX still run as fast or did things low down ?
[HTC One X] jimmyb5374:
Pretty much echo the below , i have had an sgs2 and have an xperia s and this phone with its companion core is at least 33% worse on battery than both of these, and the processor is supposed to be more efficient . The display excuse won't wash much as the xperia s display is at least as bright/power hungry if not more .

I would love to see the exchange / return rates on this handset due to it not living up to its hype , let alone the fault rates.

And i am not whining, i upgraded to one, i like it , i will keep it and maybe one day learn to root it and replace the rom, but lets not kid ourselves its just not a finished polished product in terms of software !

thats my 2p, thanks for reading

james
[HTC One X] beasty54:
Like some other members have said, what the hell do you expect when your buying one of, if not the fastest phone currently available on the market??? What i REALLY don't understand though is that under what i consider "normal usage" the One X lasts longer than my old DHD, in fact i don't think i've had a smartphone that lasts as long as the X does.

I took mine off charge at 7:30 am on Thursday morning and with a mixture of Wi-Fi, 3G, texts, emails, calls, and an hour of gaming, it managed to get to about 11pm on the Friday night before the battery was drained to 5%, this is definitely more than i expected. I don't know what some peoples days are like but mine consists of 12 hours at work (max) and then home to where i'm surrounded by USB and power sockets so even if the battery only lasts 12 hours, it doesn't cause a problem. If i'm away travelling for a day or 2 i've usually got a bag of some sort so i simply carry a £25 rechargeable battery pack that is hardly any bigger than the phone, but can charge it 3 times.

I cant help but think these complaints about battery are simply from people that cant help but pick faults with everything, if you want a week from your phones battery than can i advise you get one of these ..

http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...e-Pay-Pay-As-You-Go-Mobile-Phone/Product.html

I have one as a backup that lives in my laptop bag, it actually lasts about 2 weeks on standby so maybe its a good option for some of you :D
[HTC One X] Johnny0906:
I post battery stats all the time in the Battery Stats thread and so far i've had pretty much only positive things to say.

What rattled me about this thread and its link was that someone is saying that HTC will not focus more on battery life and that is were I start to have issues, because with Tegra 3 ar 1.5 with a companion core and all the works it should be better, one can understand that they rushed their flagship phones fast out of their labs so the software need maturing. It is still quite crude, and i've said this before: Nvidia is being abit vague abut the whole companion core and why Android can't see it at all? Then how is one to assume that it handles Android AND Sense background programs when it cant even be detected by the system that it is suppose to optimize?

It's just abit wierd and it seems Nvidia and HTC need work closer together and maybe exchange proper information? Like that apk in the system/bin, what was it doing there and why can't HTC give any straightforward informaton about it?

Most people believe it helps with the battery life but now more and more peope are starting to say it doesnt do **** according to some Paul dude that has the proper info?

Either way, what was it is it doing there? Seem like Nvidia and Android may have had some issues 'in bed' so to speak.

Hopefully things will sort themselves out and we will have proper mature softwares updates in the near future.

I am happy with my phone and I am accepting its performance but I can't but help notice all these things that should not exist on a Quad-Core state of the art Tegra 3 CPU with a phone that has the horsepower and if combined one would imagine a f***ing space ship.

Basically a small computer at least, and the fact that there was lagginess between scrolling the windows was just mindblowing on a sweet machine like this, I was honestly shocked.

I think in conclusion the ingredients are there but there recipe is poor, so we need a new recipe to make this thing work at its maximal potential.

Cheers!
[HTC One X] nikzDHD:
Battery life is fine but personal opinions differ. I'm happy of it can last me a whole working day from time I wake up to time I go sleep. Don't have the need for it too last me 2 days as I charge nightly regardless. It's a powerful phone and battery will drain. I've got a charger at work so if I feel the need to charge its always there.

As a caution those portable battery packs are very cheap now to carry around if out and about and need to charge the phone.

Sure with custom kernels battery life will improve with development in time.
[HTC One X] farnsbarns:
What I would like to know is who said the battery life would, or could, be improved by a firmware update?
[HTC One X] nativestranger:
Please update us on this. I would love to know as well.
[HTC One X] jorkobe23:
It's taken on the second day with HOX.

I used to own a galaxy nexus and it had similar battery life so I think It's not bad.

I, though, can see the dramatical battery consume when the screen is on.
[HTC One X] Htc_One_X:
I'm happy with the length of time I can use this mini powerhouse for, 12hrs nearly, today for example I watched nearly 45mins of YouTube in hd. This phone is a good buy end off. And yes software side of things may be a tad skew wiff but hey that's what updates are for aye. Added proof:
[HTC One X] Hunt3r.j2:
List of things that would improve battery life from stock:

*Lower autobrightness that actually is dim when it can be.

*Better kernels.

*Better ROM power management

*Better radio management (there are roms that switch to 2G to save idle battery)

*Partial wakelock reduction, underclocking and undervolting.
[HTC One X] fcng:
Wait...

I believe HTC is constantly in the labs ironing out the bugs and actually improving the phone. HTC is probably waiting for the SGIII to be released and see where the performance levels are currently at compared to the HOX. If the battery life on the SGIII is steadily better than the HOX; HTC will definitely have an update for the battery and other tune ups for the phone. Sit put and stay tuned as the events start playing out when the SGIII arrives.
[HTC One X] tylerdurdin:
Yeah but my flip phone with 2 inch display used to last three days. It didn't have all these apps and stuff running in the background. I hate how all these phones have all this functionality, it really sucks when doing computer type tasks it uses the battery. My old phone would take a really long time to connect and browse the Web which was really nice because I wouldn't want to use it and I would just use my computer and therefore use less battery. I can't wait until this fad is over so we can go back to when phones did a **** load less and we could save battery.

killing is my business, And business is good.
[HTC One X] Albert Poon:
https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/193082529664872448

Feel better now?
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
This is from someone with a GN that's tweaked the crap out of his phone to try and get better battery life including using an all black background and b/w icons so that the SAMOLED display is using less energy.

To me, that's not significantly better than some of the usage stats I've seen posted here. Here's the link to what they guy's done in case there's anything in it that might help someone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1609785

Here's mine so far today. It's lighter than normal use but it appears to be getting better.
[HTC One X] :
That's it, I'm throwing my device into my toilet.
[HTC One X] Johnny0906:
Why?!?! It's an awesome device!

---------- Post added at 06:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 AM ----------

May I ask what that is? I dont have a Twitter account and dont want one so....
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
Somebody posted a link to a nice simple phone that did nothing and lasted 2 weeks on standby, if you wanted a phone with a crap display that did nothing and was slow, why didn't you just get that lol

Edit: or am I missing the sarcasm? :)
[HTC One X] hefonthefjords:
Dont be naive. Nobody expects smartphones to be economical. We expect the bloody manufacturers to put a bigger bloody cell in them. Why the hell are they all still fannying around with 1.8AH batteries? Stick a 5AH one in. They arent THAT much bigger and bang you have three days battery even with the most intense useage.
[HTC One X] Robster83:
If everyone took that view there would be no progression. Why do you need a resolution that matches a TV and the processing power of a high end PC in a mobile phone? You've got it because of technical progression, because of not accepting what we have now as 'good enough'. If you stand still, you've moving backwards.

Why can't HTC and their competitors in this market put the same focus on battery life as they do processing and GPU performance? Is it because of sentiment like the post above, that what we have now is good enough to meet expectations?

As for the supercar analogy, supercars are more economical than ever before because of the time, effort, money and dedication that has gone into making them more environmentally friendly. Today we have supercars that can reach 30MPG... I've had hatchbacks that struggled to do that! Supercar designers never sat back and said '15MPG? That's good enough, surely?'.
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
Sticking a 5ah battery on top of the screen,motherboard etc would make it bloody huge lol, my dhd was too heavy already, add a case to that and you could use it as a weapon lol. The battery packs are big enough on their own, imagine having that as part of the phone, it would literally be the size of a brick, wouldnt even fit in your pocket.

The best thing we can hope for, is a new battery technology that's actually designed for these phones li-ion is old now. We need a new type (which will come eventually) that can be the same size, but offer 10x the longevity
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
Yeah, you'll get 30mpg, if you don't touch the throttle and actually try to drive economically, and NEVER floor it. (equivalent to leaving the phone with screen off on standby)

The minute you use its power, it gets 2 mpg. So the analogy still stands.

My slow little 1.3 liter car, can be floored everywhere, and still get 20mpg. Not so with a supercar.

And as above in my precious post, its the battery technology at fault, its simply not designed for this. It's an old technology, and all the battery scientists are likely racing to be the first to have a new battery technology for this generation of phones
[HTC One X] Robster83:
But then you're slow little 1.3 litre car wont have the performance of a supercar, so you're putting loads of effort in with little return. If a supercar followed your 1.3 litre car at the same speed, it would be under so little stress it would probably match your MPG!

But let's move on from cars... as you know, my point was progression is possible so long as 'good enough' isn't accepted. At the moment it seems to have been. Companies like HTC have huge resources at their disposal, if they took some of it away from the 'massive clockspeed please' department and put it to the battery life department, that'll be super.
[HTC One X] stezo2k:
That does annoy me that they said they plan no updates to improve battery life

I can't even get through a day without charging it :(

Thank god for you XDA guys, i'm sure with custom ROMs and tweaking we'll get better life out of it
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
The lots of effort with no return is true, you're absolutely right. This is the same as an old Nokia that takes 3 days to load one internet page, that would rinse the battery just as much as this phone loading the same page in 3 seconds. It's the battery at fault, and companies like HTC etc aren't the ones making the batteries so why do we expect them to? It's only a matter of time before the new type batteries come out, and then HTC won't have to change anything for these phones to last 2 weeks again.

Lets just hope the battery labs get moving and have this released damn soon :)
[HTC One X] :
@Johnny0906: Wow dude I haven't seen a rant like that since the last time I stayed awake for a week eating base. Fair play sir.

Oh and yeah I find the battery life pretty impressive considering and yeah I agree, what else do you expect from a phone with these specs?

Loool. I love this place ;)

Sent from my recently charged and satisfactory HTC One X using premium doombadgers.
[HTC One X] hopscotchjunkie:
They didn't say that though, did they? The quote was "there will be no specific update relating to power management on the HTC One X" in response to the query about the "misplaced" power management app; there will be no specific update relating to that because there is nothing to be done to it. That doesn't mean that other future updates won't improve matters in other ways (e.g the recent update which included lower auto-brightness values).
[HTC One X] stezo2k:
That's true but it's just annoying that I can't get a full days battery out of it, I just thought after all the complaints about battery life they would listen to the customers a little.

I suppose I should of done some more research before buying it so more fool me I guess
[HTC One X] Robster83:
Additionally, things like improved Tegra3 management and drivers will no doubt be more efficient, perhaps further radio improvements will do the same. So while there will be no specific battery update, there are still plenty of areas that could be tweaked that will give better battery life.
[HTC One X] :
You can't deny though it is an epic bit of phone. There's always issues when you choose to jump on something when it's first released. It's the price you pay but in my opinion the pros far outweigh the cons.

Sent from where I am to where you are using spoons...
[HTC One X] Superpiper1972:
The phone is designed to be constantly on charge, hence the (quite frankly brilliant inclusion) of the easy dock contacts on the back.

Honestly, that's a ****ing brilliant idea (not a new one though)

Engineering is a compromise, both to the designer and the user. Battery technology isn't availability to give a device of the power and size of the HTC one without regular charging being required. Of course, you should know this upon purchase, or else go for the one s.

Apples IP won't ever have a screen this big because it sees battery life as something the user isn't clever enough to understand.

I'd be all over this phone if I was due an upgrade, its stunning. I'd buy a dock for it though. And that would let me use it as it should be.

Also, if you intend to use these super phones for long periods of hard work, they really need to be plugged in.

Or buy an iPhone with a tiny screen and slow OS......
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
To be fair, once you actually have the iPhone on and using it constantly, it runs out just as quick as any other smartphone. It's only standby time that it will last for a couple of days, and the one x is better if not at least equal than the idont for standby time. Pair that with the hundreds of extra features you get with android, and the freedom (and the huge beautiful screens we have) , im really surprised people actually still think the iPhone's are better.
[HTC One X] Superpiper1972:
Lots of closed in thinking by the users tbh, but people have never been the brightest.

Take the memory issue. Genius by HTC IMHO.

No longer do you need to spend many hundreds on expensive ram., you simply upload/download to drop box as you require. This phone is designed so that it can do this very quickly and wifi/broadband is now STD for modern life.

Carrying 64gb of data is quite stupid really .

Watch apple follow in there footsteps.

Well Done HTC, its a learning curve the users need to follow.....
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
Yep, exactly. I don't copy movies , or tv to my phone , I just stream it! Saves a lot of time :)
[HTC One X] Superpiper1972:
HTC have designed a phone that you don't need to plug in.

Brilliant

Its really going to piss me off when apple do exactly the same and everyone will get moist and shout genius.
[HTC One X] Robster83:
Ironic statement, given the topic is poor battery life and the answer from some is 'plug it in' :)
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
Don't worry about that, all the iPhone users , at least the majority are getting incredibly bored with the same old apple experience, theres actually sod all difference between the old iPhone and the new ones, they want to actually be different from the crowd now.. god the same ringtone for all of them, the same homescreen, I got bored in minutes. More and more are moving to android, and seeing the light!

IPhone is slowly but surely being pushed aside by android, and its exactly the same as when windows 'stole the GUI' (according to apple) and everyone wanted versatility, so they bought windows instead of a mac. Windows PCs are by far the most common pc type in the world, and android is doing just the same.

Apple have billions of spare cash in the bank because they don't have the slightest clue what to do with it, at the same time, google, HTC and the rest are still innovating and creating new features.

Can't wait for apple to properly pushed aside, and for all the morons to be shut up.
[HTC One X] Nubzori:
:D And if iPhone 5 has widgets, all the fanboys are like "HEY APPLE INVENTED WIDGETS" :D
[HTC One X] :
Well they should cause battery life is terrible so far..
[HTC One X] tony1ant:
Agreed Battery life is not that great but then I found I was using Swipe Pad and that's what was draining my battery.
[HTC One X] rizevnarastek:
I think that they will be working on codes to optimize battery-life..

Read here from Engadget's article:
[HTC One X] ArmedandDangerous:
I'm pretty satisfied with my battery life. 18 hours on about 2-3 hour screen time with 3g never off.
[HTC One X] Superpiper1972:
Pretty much on the money.

The vast,vast majority of users who buy this will have ample power to last then a full day, which is all a smartphone should be doing tbh. How anyone wants a smartphone to last longer than a day is beyond me, simply wake up, use, go to bed, charge. Simples.

Heavy portable users should consider a power pack.
[HTC One X] Tinderbox (UK):
So how does that work?

John.
[HTC One X] Techimplant:
I don't know what's wrong with you people..I am using this beauty for 3 days now..no issue..battery lasts a full day with average to slightly heavy use..no issues there too..

I have set my brightness to auto..that's it..no other tweaks..n I am happy..so stop cribbing people..

This is the best phone money can buy right now..

N u can always go back to that cheap looking Samsung if u aren't happy..

Sent from my Stunning White HTC One X
[HTC One X] hardcoil:
Yeah, I agree. I got mine the other day, and haven't really used it much (haven't been home and number isn't ported). I played a bit of games on it yestoday and installed the 1.28 ATO. Right now I have 28% left after more than 34 hours of running on battery. Granted, the phone have been idle most of the time, but is shows that powermanagement may actually work, and once we stop playing with these things all the time, they'll probably be fine :)
[HTC One X] darkoroje:
The phone usually has 2 and half hours of on-screen time, maybe 3 hours max. I don't see how anybody can consider that as good. It is substantially worse than Galaxy S II I had before.
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
Is this a trick question lol?

Either way I use emit app for most streaming, tis the best I've found for android so far, lots of alternatives around though.
[HTC One X] Tinderbox (UK):
It is a bit :D

I was just wondering if you have to be in range of you home router, why do you watch your movies, ect on a tiny 4.7" screen instead of a large normal TV or Notebook, Tablet Ect.

When you copy the movies ect to your HOX, you can watch them anywhere, when you don't have access to the above.

It`s just that you were questioning why people copy movies/music ect to their HOX when they can stream it.

John.
[HTC One X] vincepg13:
Really? Sucks for you...I regularly get above 3 & a half. Nearly getting 4