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[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
5th phone? That's rediculous. Here's and edited version of what I posted over at AC about how I got my 3G Fascinate changed to a Charge. Also, I'm at work, so my editing of my own words may seem a bit erratic. I'll apologize ahead of time.

PS If you want to learn about effective email carpet bombs, the Consumerist has greate info.

You may have to do a little bit of work, but my EECB's always get attention, and nearly always get exactly what I want. And "What you want" should be considered BEFORE you contact them. They'll ask you straight out... "What would satisfy you today?" Know that what is, don't expect the Stars when all you deserve is the moon.

In the past few weeks...

$33 refund from Sears, and they felt inclined to give me an additional $30 GC for the store.

$30 GC for another store that understood why I didn't believe that I should have went to another one of their stores to fix an issue.

I just wish that I could EECB about my Ex-Wife. I'd like a redux.
[Verizon Droid Charge] wrarvoz:
Take the rezound. It is hands down the best on that list, maybe even the best phone available, period.
[Verizon Droid Charge] piizzadude:
Well I took the Rezound so i am off to learn all there is. I needed to get away from Samsung if for no other reason just to try something new.

If I hate Sense 4.0 (I cannot go without flashing the latest and greatest) I can always come back to Sammy with the GS3 or whatever they want to call it in a few months.
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
They just released an S-OFF method for the Rezound, so the dev community should explode. Have fun! Wish I could join you.. :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] piizzadude:
yeah i have been trying to read up on it all. So much different than sammy and even the TB I used for a few days.....but that is progress I guess.
[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
Well, I just got off of the phone with them, and I'm getting the Rezound much to my chagrin. I was really hoping that they'd turn the table and reconsider the Nexus. In the end, they wouldn't because...

It had a dual core processor.

+Ummm, so does the Rezound

It's got a worse camera.

+ ummm, shouldn't the downgrade be my choice?

It has internal flash vs external.

+ Whatever.

Maybe I'll canvas Craigslist got a trade. I wanted the Nexus because I got into stoop development last year and am about to jump back in. What better phone to have than the nexus?

With my contract coming up in November, I'll have the Rezound and whatever Sam's is selling for a buck on Black Friday. I just hope that it's not a Rezound.

Thanks for the input folks. I'll be heading over to the Rezound forum to start reading up. At least they're giving me a week to 10 days to test run the Rezound.
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
You could try to go to a store with it, say you don't like it and ask if you could get a Nexus instead.
[Verizon Droid Charge] trevormalachi:
So i take it that everyone feels about the same in that the Rezound is the better phone through Verizon?

I am currently going through the same process with them about this phone sucking. They offered me any phone they have besides the new RazrMaxx.

So ive been stuck between the Rezound, Nexus, and Razr.

Any one have any thoughts between those?
[Verizon Droid Charge] QBall45:
Rezound.
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
Rezound or Nexus. The original RAZR doesn't have a user replaceable battery, and it's a small battery, so if you're a mid to heavy user, don't even think about it. The Rezound hardware is better, but the Nexus software is better. The Nexus has a ton of development. The Rezound development scene is really just starting, but since S-OFF was acheived, expect it to really take off. Now that that hurdle is out of the way, I'd expect to see CM9 on that phone in short order.
[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
I went to the store to start my journey of which and why. The store states that they only carry the 16GB version, not the 32GB. Without USB mass storage on the Nexus, and though I know the danger of doing something wrong and not being able to extract my data from a bricked phone, I prefer the larger memory on the Nexus, but Heaven would be 16GB internal, and 32GB external/Mass Storage.

I wish that I could have gotten the Nexus as part of my offer. I would have jumped all over that. Some things to consider if you're comparing those two phones, and in no particular order...

Rezound hardware is slightly better, clocked slightly higher 1.5 vs. 1.2 I believe.

Rezound interface is different than Samsung devices, so its best to go into the store and see them first hand.

Rezound camera is a higher quality for image taking, and likely better all the way around compared to the Nexus

Rezound has removable micrSD card for mass storage. The Nexus does NOT have a microSD card. That memory is internal to the phone, and comes in either 16 or 32GB flavors. Make sure you ask for 32GB if you go the Nexus route. The Rezound is supposed to have 16GB onboard memory, 1GB RAM, Expansion: 16 GB microSD. Because of this, the Rezound wins this round.

Rezound had Gingerbread, vs Ice Cream Sammich for the Nexus. Supposedly soon the Rezound will get ICS. Supposedly my ex wife will leave me alone after being divorced for 6 years.

NFC on the Nexus. No NFC on the Rezound

Rezound has 4.3-inch super LCD screen, 1280 x 720, HD 720p, whereas the Nexus has 4.65" HD(1280 x 720) Super AMOLED. Personally an AMOLED fan.

Nexus is about an ounce lighter.

Standby Time for the Nexus is up to 150 hours, and up to 261 hours for the Rezound.

Usage Time for the Nexus is up to 720 minutes, and up to 404 minutes for the Rezound.

Rezound might get you noticed by a soccer mom. Nexus will get you laid by the likes of techno savvy GyrlGeeks everywhere.

And it's already been said, but if you're looking for better hardware, with an emerging development scene, go Rezound. If marginally better hardware isn't what you're looking for, but a huge development scene with better than average updates to the OS because its a Google phone, go Nexus.

I did my research, I took the input here, and am taking a look at the Rezound since I couldn't get the Nexus, but with the caveat that I can return the Rezound. Or, if you like the Rezound, get the Nexus, and we'll swap my Rezound. Just PM me so we can work out the details. I'll have my phone tomorrow hopefully.

Sud
[Verizon Droid Charge] Paddington:
I may be joining you with the Rezound.

I just got an offer to buy my Charge + Otterbox for $100. I also have an offer available to buy a NIB Rezound (no contract) for $200. I think it's worth the $100 (+$35 for a new Otterbox) to do this three-way exchange, but I haven't fully decided yet. I just love the Samsung products. The cheapest Nexus I can find is $200 used with a completely broken screen (but everything else works) or $285 used.
[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
Bah! VZ sucks. I called them to make sure that I would have the remainder of my warranty if I swapped phones with someone, or at least the remainder of their warranty, and they stated that if the phones are swapped from different accounts, then they would lose their warranty with VZ. I would have to go through the Mfg.

The thought of having a phone without a warranty, if I swap the Rezound they're sending me with a Nexus sucks because my renewal date isn't until November. Which is when I'd probably be able to get the phone for a buck at Sam's or somewhere else on Black Friday like they did with the Fascinate and Charge these past two BF's.
[Verizon Droid Charge] trevormalachi:
Damn thats some bull**** right there.
[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
They state that you can keep the warranty only if you swap phones within the same account... wife, kids, etc. But again, they all have to be part of the same account. If you wanted to be part of my account, its called somethign like "Assumption of Liability", and you would lose your warranty. It's ignorant.
[Verizon Droid Charge] trevormalachi:
Most indeed it is.
[Verizon Droid Charge] bairste:
There is no thinking here as it is a no brainer. REZOUND all the way!!!!
[Verizon Droid Charge] jkat797:
I'm on my 4th replacement and cant get them to offer me a replacement ....any tips?
[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
Sending you a pm on what I did to get the executive team to get someone from the corporate office to call me within 24 hours and replace my Fascinate with a Charge. Had to send two pm's. Apparently my complaint letter to them was long. PM me if you want the paraphrased version.
[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
Well, the Rezound came, oddly enough with two back covers. I called them to find out what happened and they told me. They stated that it should also have come with the beats headphones, but didn't. I guess if I opt to keep the phone, I can make a few bucks from the buds.

Too bad I hate the interface for this phone. Though its snappy, I forgot how much I hate the interface for these phones. Already telling myself its okay to keep the Charge with the audio issue and to send back the Rezound.

I'm giving myself a couple to few days to try and like it, but all that'll do is net me wasted time with reloading the phone and still not liking it. It just feels like a fat Eris.

Thank you to everyone that replied, pm, etc. imnuts and jt, I'm trying to get rid of this phone to cross over to the Nexus side of things. Now I just need to get this thing traded. I got two offers, so I'll have to see which one is easier to swap.
[Verizon Droid Charge] sanman6046:
Definitely the Rezound. Hands down the best out of all those choices. You're lucky they gave you that option to get a new one. Usually they stick you with a replacement that is the same. Not saying the Charge is a bad phone because I'm running Tweaked 2.0 and I'm very impressed with it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mefloump:
So my 7th charge is still doing the loud chirping during calls and now needs to have the data switched on and off to get mobile data back. Tier 2 support thinks it just ate the sim card, which is fine, but I talked them into sending me a Rezound provided his supervisor approves the order. I'll keep you posted on whether or not it goes through. I'll bet the call/data issues are all sim card but all tier 1 support wants to do send out cln devices. When/if the Rezound comes, they suggested going and getting a new sim card. Fingers crossed.
[Verizon Droid Charge] cujo6801:
I hope you get it...

SENT FROM THE DOG POUND
[Verizon Droid Charge] mefloump:
Thanks Cujo, it's been a wild ride and you guys have been great help. If I didn't rely on my phone for business I'd just put up with it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] standupdad:
If they do not approve it, let me know.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mefloump:
So far the order is going through. It should be here early next week. The wife's charge was doing the same thing and I was able to get tier2 to send a rezound out for her as well. We went into the local corporate store and they said it is software related and that they see it all the time. Sim card will not fix call issues, only data. I plan on just using the rezound until the next set of phones come out.
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
If you are having to constantly get a new SIM card, odds are that there is a hardware issue with the phone. While a new SIM card may fix the issue, odds are that it is going to keep coming back until you get the phone replaced. It seems like there are people that have data issues all the time on both the Galaxy Nexus and DROID Charge, and swapping in a new SIM is the answer most times, but on the Nexus, people are getting them swapped out with new units and the problem stops.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mefloump:
Rezound came today. It's fast! Will take some getting use to. All I've ever had was Samsung. Omnia, fascinate, and charge. Might root it so I can set all my apps back up.
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Might?
[Verizon Droid Charge] xdadevnube:
Oops, I thanked that post on accident, hehe.

I have a Charge and a Rezound. I highly recommend spending the time to learn about the Rezound. We are spoiled on Samsung phones with Odin.

I did the htcdev unlock, S-Off wire trick, and flashed the latest RUU on the Rezound. Then I loaded up the latest CleanROM Developer Edition (ICS) which is pretty badass.

The Rezound had my head spinning trying to figure wtf I was doing. If you want, you can just htcdev unlock, root, and ROM. It turns out that with S-On, you cannot revert to old radios or firmware. With S-On, you cannot revert back to stock. S-Off is nice, but you can brick your phone much easier.

Anyways, the Rezound and Charge are my both my favorite Verizon phones. The compliment eachother, especially with the display. Charge display is nice and black and vibrant, the Rezound display is hella-high DPI, but with backlight bleed.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mefloump:
Ok, you got me!!! i "will" root it once I do some more reading on s-off and ruu and everything else that samsung doesn't have.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Awesome!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
Cool. I hate GB but its great to have choice. Looking forward to this.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
Well, as much as I hate having to go back to an older version, I don't like HC very much, so I will definitely try this ROM out.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Pancho Punch:
My F5 button just got lucky; this will be its porn. Can't wait, man! :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
So while I have the rom deodexing(it takes a while) I've been playing with the stock rom, deleteing crap and seeing what will break, also trying to add in some AOSP elements... that way when it is deodexing then I know exactly what I can remove and/or replace

removed a ****load of bloat and useless htc apps

rosie is gone, all the rosie widgets are gone, I have the free version of ADW, Stock GB browser and 3D Gallery all working, the stock calculator is working, GB KB included, The stock Calendar, contacts, camera or mms didnt work but I can try to tinker with them later

but the biggest one so far is I got rid of the Sense lock screen and have the stock GB one ;) So much easier to do on GB than HC!

I might have a preview release up in a few hours
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] killahrey:
pretty cool man. but i think it would probably be pretty easy to actually build cm7 for the view. I believe the flyer has it going.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
pretty easy if you know how to kernel dev :) without a kernel dev porting the flyer CM7 kernel over or creating a new one we wont get anything AOSP :( The View only has a couple devs and zero kernel devs which means we are up ****s creek without a paddle for the time being
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
I asked the guy who did the Flyer CM rom to throw us Viewers a bone and port his Flyer version to the View. He said he might make it a weekend project but not promising anything.

If interested run over to his thread and pm the dev (very nicely) that you heard a rumor he might consider doing a View port and you just wanted to support the idea.

Maybe a little future fan influence will motivate him :-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Also check out the Q & A thread. There is a Chinese GB RUU out that has full pen support for the Flyer. May be some goodies to grab there.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Posted a preview release.. let me know what issues you guys find..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
I noticed the market wasnt updating to the Play Store.. I'll include the updated APK in the next release but until then you can just install this and it will overwrite the market with playstore. No need to push it, just install it like you would any side loaded apk

http://d-h.st/aQQ
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Another issue I found was sometimes the unlock slider disappears when you wake the device (just the left one though) but if you swipe as if it was there it unlocks. I'll have to look into that
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Sounds great :) I may hold off on testing until it's done. Just hard bricked my E4GT this morning and I'm a bit gun shy.

Never hard bricked a phone before. Accidentally flashed an AOSP ICS rom over an ICS kernel. Apparently this is huge no no. Complete blue light of death hard brick. Thank god for insurance.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
Just installed. Testing now. I'll edit in problems as necessary.

First thing I noticed is that the Setup Wizard force closes if I try to change the time settings. I can change the time settings just fine through the regular settings, though.

The keyboard wouldn't pop up at first for whatever reason. A reboot fixed it, though.

In the settings, the right side of the check boxes are cut off.

Also, the mobile signal level icon still shows up, even though I downloaded the WiFi only ROM. I'm guessing this is just an issue with theming for now, though.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
The first issue I mentioned in the OP. The keyboard popped up fine for me the first time. The check boxes I noticed and will look into. And the signal meter will always be there even if its just wifi. But you'll see its a empty signal. The only difference is hc puts a red x through it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
You don't have to be shy. I've been running it since last night and there are no huge major bugs that are show stoppers. Every rom has issues and is never perfect. But even though its a preview release its pretty stable except for the few mentioned small issues.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
Doh...I just suck at reading, then.

Agreed. So far, it's definitely smooth, and just has those minor issues. I think this will do just fine until we get ICS (though I'll go over to an AOSP GB ROM if we get one). I like it better than Honeycomb already, even if it is an older system.

---------- Post added at 07:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:31 PM ----------

Any chance I could get pointed in the right direction as far as getting the APK to enable live wallpapers again?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Didn't realize I took them out. Lol I must a went a little trigger happy on the delete key. Haha I'll get it back in.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
Sounds good. :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] pbanj:
glad to see this, i have been finding a lot more apps saying they are not compatible with my tablet even though it says they are for when it was on gb so looks like im going to this
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Love it so far. Very quick and looks good. Just need some 3g/4g love so I can text :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
It's been added to the OP :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Awesome! Only other problems I've notices are the small formatting things already mentioned.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Been running this for about a day now. Very fast. Only small cosmetic issues noticed by others. Big win.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] macr0t0r:
I figure I'll wait for his first update, and then I am jumping onto this ROM! The Honeycomb thing just doesn't fit well on 7-inches. I want my fast and compatible Gingerbread back!

- Jim
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] @Bill_Dollar:
This is great! I was trying to create this and its a great alternative until.an ICS AOSP kernel is released. I know cayniarb from Tiamat has projected a release. (from a recent interview) lets tweak this ROM to full potential. Init.d scripts and.some viper optimization... some A2SD? Idk, but I love my View. Could you link some worthy causes in the OP?.donations should be directed. :-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wyldkard:
gonna give this rom a try

but

how do you feel about building an AOSP rom? or even porting LeeDroids Flyer rom or the Flyer CM rom?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
We don't have an AOSP kernel. No AOSP kernel, no AOSP rom. I'm not a kernel dev so you're asking the wrong person. I wanted to make a gb version of my desensed rom that's why I didn't port leedroid's. And CM is aosp so kernel again is an issue. A kernel dev needs to port the kernel for us.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
I'd have started building a kernel if I had more time. I have access to cayniarbs db and would chat away with him if I could. Being an acting store manager and full time student is rough.

The only way I'd do anything with gb is aosp. Sense on gb wastes a lot more of the screen in landscape mode than I'd like and with us having the HW keys enabled now on HC, I'm a Happy camper. @grafixnyc let me know if I can contribute in any way or if we can team up to make aosp a reality.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] @Bill_Dollar:
BIG word up!

Sent from CWM Recovery of my Evo View 4g...because I just might brick this things trying to get beats to work...how stupid. :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] macr0t0r:
So, I didn't get the Flyer pen until I was already on Honeycomb, and I hear that the Pen functionality is greatly reduced in Gingerbread. However, I can't seem to determine exactly

how

it is reduced. Does this mean that most apps will completely ignore the pen, or does the pen fallback to being just a regular (and less accurate) capacitive stylus?

If the pen becomes dead for many apps....that might be a tough pill to swallow now that I have one.

- Jim
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
In HC you can use the ben throughout the OS, meaning if you want to swipe though your homescreens you can use the pen to do it on HC, in GB you cant. In HC the pen responds to OS stuff just as if you were using your finger. ie.. opening settings, selecting something from the list etc.... navigating through the os and stuff like that
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] macr0t0r:
Thanks. I finally managed to the magical search terms to find this thread about Gingerbread versus Honeycomb Scribe support:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1356967

Ouch....I lose the ability to play Draw Something with my stylus if I go back to Gingerbread unless I buy another separate capacitive stylus ... I'm not sure if the speed boost is worth it. Bugger...there's always a tradeoff in each custom ROM, I suppose.

- Jim
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Well, a couple things:

1. Compared to GB, HC isn't just slower it is S L O W E R. Browsing is tragically slow. If you browse more than you write consider this. Also, the dpi is all screwed up some things (such as icons) can see quite large on the screen. You can fix this using something like Rom Toolbox, but it breaks things like the background image of the Notes program.

2. HTC Notes just seems like a half-written app that they completely abandoned. Things like the keyboard popping up when you wrest your hand on the screen to write become unbelievably annoying after a while. Why couldn't HTC just put a keyboard button in the menu instead? Their "touch" solution is poorly conceived and implemented.

3. Netflix is basically unusable on HC. Some sort of lag issues (probably linked to the browser lag issues). Sound gets ahead of video every time. If you watch a lot of Netflix, forget HC.

So that is the tradeoff. Is slow browsing and poorly implemented pen support a fair trade for a quick and responsive os with limited pen support? Your call.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Hmmm. This is kind of odd.

I see that Flash is installed and yet embedded flash is nit working anywhere. YouTube works just fine in the YouTube app. For any embedded flash I am just getting a little blue lego piece icon with a questionmark in it.

Ideas?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Uploading a new version now.

Changes in this version:

Fixed checkboxes being cut off

added live wallpaper picker back in

updated to google play store

got the AOSP calendar working

removed HTC calendar

removed a few other HTC apps that were left behind

moved flash player from being a system app to a user app
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
hmm well, I did have it as a system app before. Maybe that was causing it. I'm uploading a new version now and I have moved it to be a non system app
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Thanks. Will give it a shot and let you know.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
update posted
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Looks good :) Flash appear to be working now.