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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
i find this kind of hear to believe lol. ill have to see it for myself. the evo LTE may have higher resolution, but i highly doubt it can match the contrast and black levels of a Super amoled plus display. The evo LTE is a LCD, not an amoled dispplay. The one-S does have amoled, but is a pentile display. So ill have to see that in person

The s2 can shoot in 1080p/8MP still but the added feature to do both at the same time is cool, but not gonna make me switch phones. I couldnt imagine a phone being much faster than the s2. I dont know how much faster "instant" can get lol. Theres never any lag or wait with this thing. But I have an open mind, Im gonna go check out the one S tomorrow
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 2fastkuztoms:
a quick photoshop I did...

White Evo...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] veritasaequita:
wow, thats looks pretty cool! good thinking. on a side note i had never actually seen the white et4g till yesterday and i must admit i lost my belief that the white one is for chicks. after finally seeing it i would love to have it over this black one, but that's just me. cool pic bro.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rgregg504:
Damn how did i get in the HTC forum again
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] veritasaequita:
dang, u must have went way of track. your actually at the xda forum. :D

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
Wow you dug yourself a grave here
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
You understand that in general, the EVO phone's have waay more dev right? Take a look at the EVO & EVO 3D forums, then at all the samsung ones, you will understand what I mean. And for the people who can use the LTE, it is worth it for them. Lastly, I hope you understand that the SGS3 for sprint probably WON'T be quad core due to the LTE chipset (same reason why the One X in the US is not quad core).

LTE is much better than WiMax, faster, and way better building penetration!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Hehe "penetration"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stay Frosty:
Does it matter if it's quad core? I can't think of a bigger gimmick aside from Siri.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hodgie26:
I like a little variation also. I really want the One X except for the fact that it doesn't have a microsd card slot. I can live without the battery being replaceable. I don't like the looks of the black Evo 4g LTE, but if they come out with a white one and it looks like that?? Sign me up. Plus, Nashville is rumored to be getting LTE pretty soon!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LordLugard:
Won't the phone be in a case most of the time? Just get a white case of some sort.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zurginator:
I'm kinda surprised Sprint didn't go for a black and gold color scheme, considering their biggest competitor is black and red.

Plus, black and gold just looks awesome.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hodgie26:
I'm a risk taker. I have the white e4gt with no case. I tried a few cases, but it made the phone too bulky. I love the feeling of the phone in my hand with no case. If I drop it, that's what insurance is for.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iahk:
That remains to be seen. The reason why the One X has the dual core snapdragon s4 is because the tegra 3 doesnt have integrated LTE. We already knew (and nvidia stated) that the current tegra 3 wouldn't support LTE.

What we don't know yet is exactly what the galaxy s 3 will be using. Possibly exynos 4412? Rumor. Exynos 4412 supposed to have integrated LTE? Rumor.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
Well I went to a t mobile store today to check out the One S. It is indeed a VERY nice device. Its super thin and the build quality is insane. The display is amoled but the contrast and black levels don't match the display on the s2. The higher resolution is nice too. The camera did take instant pics. However to the guy who said he was trading his s2 for the for the One S at the first chance he gets is insane lol. It would still take the s2 10 times out of 10.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ttieder:
I went to atat and saw the one x they had a demo and it was amazing I didn't think it would be that good but it was I hope the gs3 or I'm going with the new evo
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
I got to play with the EVO last week, and while i admit it looks and feels nice, I just no longer care for Sense. Also, after rooting a few of my coworkers OG EVOs and 3Ds in the past month I can tell you its too much of a pain in the ass anymore with them. I like my one click root, not wasting an hour with a command line interface and intentionally bricking phones to side load old software...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
Agreed. No longer have any liking to sense. Its ugly and heavy. They look like great devices though. HTC finally stepping up
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] d12unk13astard:
Although I love my g2x for lots of reasons (cough tegra2 cough) I dont think the tegra 3 and its quadcore soc is really an upgrade to what our phones deliver atm. Plus Nvidia is closed sourced and that caused problems for our devs to get true hardware acceleration for the g2x, they did pull it off using a hacked froyo or GB kernel but it was only that.. A hack. HTC is a downgrade with the way there coming up with all these bad decisions in their phones, The one x,s,v series of phones are gimped, at least the sprint version included the external sd slot tho.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmmajor:
You didnt mention the fact that it does not have a removable battery..i dont care how good the s4 processor is on battery life..expecially with it being a big fast bright smartphone its gonna die and when it does u gonna need a charging cable with u at all time...that in my opinion is the only flaw in the Evo LTE and why i wont buy it..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aimbdd:
Yes they did....

That's what USB battery packs are for. Or maybe once its out we will have extened battery cases like the iPhone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thekingofmean:
I felt the same way, my E4GT felt kind of cheaply built at first. Mostly only while I had my Evo in my other hand.

GS3 is supposed to have an Exynos proc, not tegra.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
I did mention the non-removable battery actually, in the part where I discuss the development of the phone. That's okay, it was a long post, I don't blame you for skimming. :-)

Anyway, I agree about the lacking battery life, but I think the development of the phone will fix that down the line. And until then, I have a charger in my car for after work, and I'm sure that'll get me to the evening. I am disappointed by the non-removable battery, but it is easily forgiven with all of the other beautiful features of this phone. My OG EVO had AWFUL battery life when I first got it, but after a new kernel and SetCPU, it nearly doubled. Custom ROMs helped too, but just a little tweaking went a long way.

And yeah, the OG EVO is a beast for build quality. I hope the new one is just as solid feeling. It looks like they did a heck of a job (aluminum unibody). I have my reservations about Samsung and build quality, but I'm sure the S3 will be a great phone. I'm just not waiting around forever for it, especially since it is getting a dual core processor in the States anyway.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
I'll make sure to take this into consideration after you've actually spent some time with the device.

Ive had multiple HTCs and liked them before, but their current offerings leave much to be desired. I was impressed by the build quality of the device and they way it felt, but it was no faster than my S2.

I'm sure the EVO 4G LTE will be yesterdays news on May 3rd.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
You're referring to the Galaxy SIII that will have the exact same processors that the EVO has (in the US models)? That's already been announced FYI, I'm not guessing on that one. But with a plastic build, no kickstand, and who knows about SD storage? Okay... I'll take my chances on that one. If anything, the EVO and GSIII will be phones 1 and 1A. No worries here. Trust me, I'll update you once I have it. And once I play with the One X.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I was honestly thinking of waiting. That changed since it has almost been confirmed we will be getting an S3 with the same processor as the Evo. It seems like we will see the same screen size and screen resolution too. I know it is all rumor now so we just wait until this weekend to know for sure.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluephi1914:
I was an evo fan, but I got tired of HTC releasing phones with issues that should have been fixed in their testing phase... Don't get me wrong, no phone is perfect, but the issues htc had were down right ridiculous and i expected better. I think HTC got a little to big for their britches and their last quarter sales were a wake up call....the customers spoke, loud and clear. I've owned all of the evos....the original being my favorite. But IM not switching back unless Samsung screws up the S3...and even then, I'll stay with my E4gt. HTC has lost me as a customer. I don't care if they did make their phone look like a Samsung.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
You think the new EVO looks like a Samsung?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
dude youre such an HTC rep....gtfo

lol jusssst messin.

EVO = great series ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
Who announced it will have a S4? All I could find is a few ****ty websites Ive never heard of say it MIGHT have it. I'll believe it when Samsung announces it. Otherwise, you would think you would have read on one of these obscure sites it will have a ceramic build, it will obviously have a SD slot, all of the previous Galaxies have, and I never used the kickstand on my OG EVO so I could give a **** less.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
The HTC fanboys said the Epic Touch would have Tegra 2. Just ignore 'em.

I like giving each manufacturer a try, so I'll probably be getting the EVO LTE 4G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vanshmack:
HTC definitely lost it's way in 2011. The One X/EVO LTE phones are their comeback devices for 2012.

The specs are spot-on, and as mentioned above, HTC's build quality is nothing short of vault-like. My OG EVO feels like it was built by Mercedes-Benz, as does my wife's EVO_Shift. While the Shift had a few launch issues (****ty battery life, keyboard bug), everything was cured through a root-and-rom. My EVO had horrible battery life, too, and this was also solved by the Dev community.

Samsung, on the other hand, builds some cheap phones. Low-quality plastic abounds, and I've always found their flavor of Android to be a little laggy and less intuitive than Sense. At least you can't feel the circuit board flex inside the phone anymore, since they moved to capacitive screens.

I have to admit I worried when Sprint had no "killer" HTC phones coming down the pipe, especially after the lackluster offerings for 2011. I was considering getting the SGN after Sprint announced it in January, but I'm glad I waited for the EVO LTE...At least I don't have to settle!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] barnacles10:
delete.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluephi1914:
You dont :confused: LOL, JK

It sure doesnt look like the previous line of EVO's. They thinnned it out and the side views make me think of samsung.

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I agree that HTC definately lost their way.... but I dont want to have to go through 5 or 6 ROMs and all types of changes to get the phone to work properly or up to par. Samsung put out a phone that covered all my issues (speaker phone is loud, phone turns off and on consistantly without me having to remove battery etc, easy to root and the battery life is much better. I havent called Spint since i got my E4GT.... except to say thank you.

HTC EVO specs have always been "spot on" but when the phone finally get into your hands, issues other than a nice spec sheet arise. speakerphone, screen issues (arising from multiple glass manufactures). then the bootloader thing. They have just left a bad taste in my mouth.... Its almost like they realized they were on top and didnt care about what the customers wanted... then the customers let them know who really holds the key to their companies future.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
All it needs is Cm9 and akop, and I'm sold.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
That bootloader might keep me from getting the Evo. I know one thing for sure. I won't get that phone on launch day. There are two reasons. One is I probably can't since employees have to wait. Two, I like to wait and see some reviews and roms show up first.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
And that HTC will release a different hardware revision a month later as the previous EVOs....lol. I know they'll unlock the bootloader for sure though cause of their previous history to satisfy customers ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] misterzeno:
No, just got this phone in December. No issues with it and no complaints, and after the EVO comes out there will be another phone to salivate over and then the S3 to cream over and then who knows what android spec beast after that...all to be not updated with the software from google.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dev_man77:
Sick of everybody whining about the plastic on the phone.

NEWSFLASH!!!!

Plastic is lighter than steel or aluminium, easier manufacturing process to allow complex shapes, dent and scratch resistant.

Look at all the drop tests on youtube or go drop your phone yourself. I have dropped it probably 30+ times with no protection. Now go try the same with a glass iphone, or with a metal cased phone and show me no signs of dents, or paint scrapes or your non-broken screen.

Plastic was chosen for this phone and has a purpose.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
You're right that we won't officially know until Thursday, but my main point is that there will be little separation between the SIII and the EVO LTE in terms of phone quality. They both will have pros on cons, but it will all come down to preferences. They'll both be top notch phones, and I doubt I'd be unhappy with either. But I personally use my kickstand every single day (not an exaggeration), so I love that aspect.

But don't say "obviously" regarding the SD card just because it always has been... Every EVO has had a removable battery too... obviously things don't change until they change.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
I thought HTC said they were discontinuing their locked boot loader policy after the 3d incident. Have things continued going this way?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluephi1914:
I'll believe it when i see it !

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Years ago I tried an HTC Touch Pro, the build quality was c-r-a-p. There was a lot of light leakage under the screen, the plastic casing felt really cheap and it just felt clunky and sub-par. So for a time I wouldn't even give HTC a moment's notice but when the OG EVO came out I dove in and I was pleasantly surprised (HTC for the comeback), in fact I loved that phone and had I paid more attention to XDA back then I might still be rocking it, but alas, along came the *newer, better* 3D and I fell for it and it fell flatter than flat. I toyed with the Shift and gave the Design a feel but both took me back to the old Touch Pro days and how cheap they felt.

Had HTC stuck with the winning combination that was the OG EVO, I might give this more consideration but um 3D, Shift and Design pretty much ruined them for me.

I'll keep an eye out and listen to reviews but it's going to take a LOT to get me away from Samsung at the moment. I have some hope the SGSIII will be worth the wait but, if not, I can honestly say my E4GT (thanks to all the excellent Devs/Themers and their amazing work) will tide me over until something better comes along.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ungovernable1977:
Hey at least the phones will be relatively comparable, so the HTC fanboys will go back to HTC forums, like back in the OG Epic/Evo days...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Hey, they had haters when the Corvette launched too. In 1958 they thought it was crazy to make a car with a fiberglass body.

Then they had the glock haters. They thought a polymer frame was to weak.

It is nothing new. Why do you think we have the tea party now? Some people are afraid of change. Personally I am afraid of people driving corvettes with glocks(cops with fast cars), that and republicans.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
Eh, its still locked. They just give you the option to unlock it, which is all done through a lengthy command line session, which is a pain in the ass itself, and loading ROMs its a command line pain in the ass, and a custom recovery? Forget it. Another hour spent on command line codes.

Could you avoid all this? Sure, if you want to wait 4-6 months, someone will come out with a one click root for it, but it will only work on the software that launched with the phone. If you ever updated it you're ****ed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gr33nd3vil:
I'd take the nexus or sgs3 before HTC.

Oh wait that's rite... I have a sgs2 white an nexus ;-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I think I will be able to make a more informed decision in the next 24 hours. But, when in comes to products made in abroad I take into account working conditions of employees as much as product specs. The Nexus is really a previous generation phone now. The HTC is made in Taiwan and the Samsung is made in Korea. I think the specs will be very comparible. Which leaves one last item.... Which phone will have the most active dev support?

On a side note, one of the main reasons I will never buy am Apple product is the fact it is made in China. I don't support their government or labor conditions.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coiledwire:
I loved my evo4g, but I still remember the upper left corner with tons of dust under the screen, the light bleed from soft keys, and the camera that had to get pushed in frequently to avoid pink pictures. So when we are talking about HTC's great build quality, are we just referring to the heft?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Traditionally HTC owns XDA but with the locked bootloaders and Samsungs ship unlocked that may very well change. Motorola also promised unlocked bootloaders by Q3 last year and went back on their word. Im not too fond of HTC's method of unlocking, from what I've seen its a half assed unlock, not the kind of unlock we need to get the full use out of our phones. Im excited about the EVO 1, I hope good things come out of the development community for that phone. I miss the solid build of HTC.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
Maybe you've got a dud. I've had none of those issues, and the heft is definitely a plus too! :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coiledwire:
Dust and light bleed were pretty common issues on the og evo. But maybe it's more of a quality control issue versus build quality. I seen other quality control issues coming out of the evo3d community also. Perhaps it's because HTC offered too many product lines, and QC will be cleaned up for their one series. Time will tell.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Theres allot of rage in the OneX forums.... people talking about great build quality should check some of them out.... I dont know if they are a pack of whiners or if its legit... Not ripping HTC at all just wondering
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluephi1914:
true... it was also a result of multiple manufactures making the same part... i think they had two or three screen manufactures. i loved my htc og evo, and the 3d, ..great phones, but Samsung just made a better phone.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
Why get it when LTE is not roll out in sprint network yet? Pointless....I rather get the GS3 than this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] j_shelton1988:
You do realize the gs3 will be lte as well, and will also be rolled out with limited lte markets?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
Maybe not for you. My surrounding area is done by June 1. My immediate area is done as of last week. EVO here we come.

As a side note, even without LTE immediately, I'd buy the EVO May 18. Have you SEEN the specs and features of this thing?! Incredible phone, LTE or not. Just like the OG EVO was amazing with or without 4G. WiFi is so prevalent now, how often will 4G be critical?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] makisupa79:
Obviously this will be speculative...but any idea how the non-removable battery will affect rooting options and potential rom development? I like this phone (camera especially is impressive) and want to jump from my OG EVO to it, but not having the option of a battery pull if something goes wrong is the only thing that has me cautious. I rum CM7 on my EVO and I usually have to do 1 or 2 battery pulls a month.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
There is a button combination to shut off phone, which achieve the same effect as pulling the battery. I believe you hold down the power button for ten seconds. No worries.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
The Verge has some HTC bootloader info

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/5/4/3000175/at-t-htc-one-x-bootloader-official-unlock
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluephi1914:
they're calling the htc one x, the best smartphone out right now? wow

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Thats a link to the review they did a while ago. lolol

It was the headline from 4-2-2012

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/4/2/2919202/htc-one-x-review
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
This locked bootloader crap was the reason I took the 3D back last year.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Me too was so happy with that thing for about 12hrs and than I said to myself I think my OG Epic is better. Told my wife I got her a present and handed her the 3D. Couple weeks later I got her another gift... 2 batteries and a travel charger that I ordered from Amazon.. what guy huh :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Daddy43205:
unless the evo lte has some sort of super battery that last 24 hrs while on the intertent playing music and talking.....then this phone is a no go i hate when a company comes out with a good product but screws it with 1 missing feature
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] difrent7:
I never had any issue with my Samsung phones and have always treated me right but i might go back to HTC for the new Evo. I played with my friends HTC One S last night and it really is a beautiful phone, the new sense is great, camera is beautiful, and feels nice in the hand. Granted it isn't the HTC One X which is closer to the Evo 4g LTe it was still a good idea of what to expect and i really enjoyed it. The bootloader issue does come into play but at the end of the day if it really is an issue ill get the Galaxy S3 at the point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
I played with the One S and loved it. Then I played with the One X and loved it even more. Can't wait to play with the EVO 4G LTE and love it even more! :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kawaski47:
After seeing a video comparing the samoled hd screen and the hd lcd2 screen im definitely going with the evo
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dev_man77:
Because you use a microscope when you use your phone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
Considering the differences between these two phones is minimal, small details can easily be the deciding factor.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Like a locked boot loader and a non removable battery
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kawaski47:
No because I can tell the difference. I was not referring to the microscope review either BTW.

Also I cant use pentile. I had the Photon for a few days and the screen actually gave me headaches looking at it. No Bueno. Maybe they fixed pentile or made it better or something. Ill have to check it out in person. But so far im leaning towards the evo.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gr33nd3vil:
Rumor has it sprints version is unlockable
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Got a source

Im gonna make my wife get one anyway. She had the OG and now the 3D. Going for the trifecta
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PsiPhiDan:
Why do you want your wife to have one and not you? I'd be insanely jealous! :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluephi1914:
that's because he's getting a GS3... :)

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