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[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] fcorona76:
Yes, Gary, I meant IR, not RF.

h2g2:

Here's my email, copied & pasted, right from Peel support:

Whatever the reason, they're blaming Samsung and have essetially refused any further support beyond that statement. I don't think my expectations were too high for this feature. I know I wasn't going to get a Harmony remote. I was only expecting to change my channels (and possibly inputs) on the television and control the volume on my reciever. That's it. According to Samsung's literature the SG7+ should have been able to do that without a hitch.

As I mentioned before, my SG7+ is broken already with a defective LCD (I assume) and is being shipped back to Samsung for service this weekend. When I get the replacement I will start back with Samsung on the IR functionallity. At this point it's unlikely I will be able to get my money back so I can either A) wait it out and hope for the best or B) get the replacement unit and immediately try to recoup as much of my money as possible, including the $100+ in accessories I have for this stupid thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] fewt:
Don't take this the wrong way, I know well the impact of not having the source code. From what I have read, it does seem that Samsung may be violating the GPL by using a GPL'ed driver and claiming a BSD license on it even if the "author" says it is ok.

The code I'm sure doesn't reference any BSD license because the Kernel would probably complain that it was tainted.

That said though, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with the device that requires it to have 4.0, or an open firmware?

The only issue I have seen with it so far is that sometimes it shuts down when you put it to sleep.

Just curious is all. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] fcorona76:
For me, it's just what I have listed in the post above. If my tablet would function as it is advertised to then I would be mostly content with Honeycomb. According to Peel support, ICS is the only way to fix their program on the GT7+.

The only thing I really miss from the newest firmware update (LA3) is that Samsung removed the Horizontal calibration utility. Flashing back to the stock firmware (K??) I get that option back but at the cost of some system stability. My GT7+ was horrible, a good 30 degrees off, and it is a necessary utility to have available. I could not find any way to calibrate through any other external application. This is why I signed up here at XDA so I'll leave that question for another dedicated thread....
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] GTOJim:
As for the Peel app, it doesn't work at all for me. If I try to change channels it turns the TV off, even the volume feature doesn't work etc etc. Exact same problem with two tabs, one was exchanged due to another problem.

I also own a Galaxy S Vibrant phone, ginger bread was never released for this phone. GPS doesn't work properly due to hardware problem. I've had problems with a Samsung Blue Ray player. I swore I would not purchase another Samsung product, but I purchased a Galaxy tab 7.0+ because it was highly rated and read ICS would be released first quarter.

No official ICS release means no Samsung products for me ever again.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] danrex:
An official release of ICS isn't important to me. What I want is a device that is easily moddable for stock opensource ICS. Samsung not releasing important bits, e.g. the wifi driver source is a dealbreaker.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
Sounds like that is more of a code problem. I must be one of the lucky ones, haven't had an issue with peel and my Sony TV.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] amtrakcn:
There will be loads of complains like this before ICS finally arrives and same amount of praise after that, just like every device.

I myself does not see any impossibility of official ICS. The Galaxy Note has not gotten an official release and some brands like Sony and Moto have not even started rolling out ICS yet. As a happy owner of SGS1 and SGS2 I do believe Samsung in firmware updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] garyd9:
There's a very large difference, however: All the devices you've mentioned have had leaks and/or very official announcements concerning ICS. The 7+ has only been mentioned as an afterthought, and then I don't think it's ever been done officially.

Galaxy Note has had leaks (both in EU form and Chinese form) as well as very official and public announcements and advertisements.

The 7+? Well, it looks like Samsung is putting their efforts into newer devices such as the "tab 2."

Is anyone at samsung actually working on the 7+? I don't think so. If there was even a single developer working full time on this device (with full hardware source), we'd already have ICS. It's not a complex device, and with no GSM/CDMA modems to deal with, development is even easier.

Really, if samsung were to just do a full release of the 6210 source (a FULL release), I wouldn't care if they abandoned us... I'd get more done for the kernel/firmware on this tablet in my spare time than samsung has done in the 6+ months this device has been out.

Combining my efforts with the others on this and other forums would result in a much better device. For those with a device running AOKP or CM9 - imagine our 7+ with ICS. It would be amazing.

Take care

Gary
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] robyr:
I see this meme perpetuated here over, and over, and over here at XDA, and it is simply untrue. Samsung has released MULTIPLE press releases SPECIFICALLY mentioning the Tab Plus for ICS upgrade.

The official press release is on Samsung Mobile's Facebook. I'd link here, but my post count is too low.

Interesting note here, the data systems team is based where I live... maybe I can poke some contacts there and see if I can get some details.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] garyd9:
Official press releases are NOT done on "facebook", "twitter", etc. Samsung actually has a dedicated section of their website for press releases: http://www.samsung.com/us/news/presskitList.do

The stuff accounced on facebook, twitter, etc is technically just leaks and may or may not have been sanctioned.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] h2g2:
Thanks for sharing that. Good luck dealing with Samsung, I've never dealt with them myself. I suspect that if you're firm but polite and ask that your issue be escalated, you'll get compensated somehow. And if you don't, then at least you'll know exactly what kind of company Samsung is.

Please share your results once you're done. If you can't get satisfaction from them over this, I don't think I want to give them any more of my money in the future as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] moralmg:
Dont Kill the messenger - Just had a live chat with samsung

here we go,....

"Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK5640957884X

Simpson: Hi, thanks for reaching out to Samsung tech support. How can I help you today?

Visitor: Good Morning are there any updates on a release date for the ICS upgrade for the Galaxy Tab plus? GT-P6210MA

Visitor: :)

Simpson: I understand that you want to know if there are any update available for ICS for your Tab. Is that correct?

Visitor: yes

Simpson: Thank you for confirming.

Visitor: :)

Simpson: Would you mind holding for few minutes so that I can get some information?

Simpson: Thank you for holding. I appreciate your time and patience.

Simpson: I am sorry to inform you that a full update to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich for the Galaxy Tab (7-inch) and Galaxy S is not practicable due to hardware limitations. Samsung remains committed to providing the best possible mobile experience to all existing and new customers.

Simpson: I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused you.

Simpson: Is there anything else that I can assist you with?

Visitor: ok this is disconcerning

Visitor: Samsung just released a 7 inch tab with ICS

Visitor: with lowers specs than the TAB plus

Simpson: I understand your concern.

Visitor: so no upgrade to ICS

Simpson: But with older model which released earlier they are not compatible.

Simpson: I really sorry to say that.

Simpson: Is there anything else that I can assist you with?

Visitor: is there going to be an official anouncement for this?

Simpson: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.

Simpson: As of now there is no official announcement for this.

Simpson: I apologize for the inconvenience.

Visitor: ok... well Im now on the ranks of not happy customers of Samsung.... :(

Visitor: thanks"

:( not happy at all... can someone with official ties confirm?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
It looks like the support tech thought you were talking about the original galaxy tab as he doesn't mention plus...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] moralmg:
I hope you are right...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] chrisrotolo:
I would second the fact that they didnt mention the plus.. although that is what you told him. These kind of reps are bonehead monkeys. Most are totally clueless. The fact that he says not practical because of the hardware.... I think we will all have trouble understanding that one. At least cripple the stupid IR blaster, but we will get ICS on this device on way or another!!!!!!

Touching on what was said about how long it takes the developers... Im asking myself this question daily. How many developers do they have? How "good" are they? Cant they get a few more and manage them appropriately so all of their devices get at least one or two major updates?

We should take a poll: update Times for devices Xda release vs. OEMs, I think we might be surprised!!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] kzoodroid:
The press release I read stated that the original Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S were not getting ICS because they did not have the hardware to support it. The rest of the Galaxy Tab lineup is supposed to get ICS. And from previous experience, Eclair thru Gingerbread, updates get released when they do and no faster, usually a quarter or two or even three later than the rumors. One thing I do know and that is calling tech support asking for a date for an upgrade is as usefull as tits on a frog as neither serves any purpose. It still amazes me that people will call them expecting to get a release date, same thing with calling the carriers tech support, they know as much as you do about release dates maybe even less.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] MrNo:
I sure hope that Samsung releases something soon. Otherwise this will be my first and last Samsung device :)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] johnnycooper:
Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Valarie'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.

Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK5640959601X

Valarie: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

Visitor: hi, i have a question about my Galaxy Tab™ 7.0 Plus (Wi-Fi) 16GB. Will it be getting ICS update?

Valarie: I understand that you want to know if ICS update is available for your Wi-Fi tab. Is that correct?

Visitor: yes, this is the new 7.0 plus tab that was released in november 2011

Visitor: not the old 7" tab

Valarie: Thank you.

Valarie: I am sorry to inform you that I am not trained on Wi-Fi tab. I will transfer your chat to our dedicated Wi-Fi tab support team.

Please wait while I transfer the chat to the best suited Samsung Agent.

You are now chatting with 'Kate'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.

Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK5640959601X

Kate: Hi, thanks for reaching out to Samsung tech support. How can I help you today?

Kate: I am truly sorry you had to be on hold for so long, but we’ve had an unusually high volume of chats coming in. I’d be happy to help you with any questions you have about our products.

Visitor: hi, i have a question about my Galaxy Tab™ 7.0 Plus (Wi-Fi) 16GB. Will it be getting ICS update?

Kate: I understand that you want to know if the Tab will get the ICS update. Is that correct?

Visitor: correct

Kate: I'm really sorry as of now we do not have information as when this update will be available but it will be as soon as possible, however you can check for regular updates on Samsung web site under news section.

Visitor: Do you know if it will be available for this tab ?

Kate: As of now we do not have the information, so we request you check for regular updates on Samsung web site under news section.

Visitor: I am not meaning to ask when , just if it is going to happen at all?

Kate: Yes, the Tab will get the update.

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[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] solom01:
Careful of what you wish for

Besides the Samsung Tab 7 Plus I also own an Asus Transformer. Everyone in that forum kept pressing Asus for an ICS update, which we got really quickly. The update has been an unmitigated disaster for a lot of people, causing random reboots, freezing, etc. with no easy way to restore to Honeycomb, which was quite stable. Now the very same posters are cursing Asus for having delivered an unstable upgrade and basically turning a lot of tablets into unusable junk. I no longer use my Asus, it's that unstable. Considering that the Asus Honeycomb is almost stock without superflous junk like TouchWhiz I am quite happy waiting as long as it takes to have Samsung do it right. Even if they never release ICS the Tab is quite usable which is more than I can say about my Transformer. :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] fcorona76:
Well, since people are positng thier chat logs with Samsung, I'll go ahead and post mine up from a month back when I was inquiring about the Peel functionallity and the BS answer I got from them:
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] chrisrotolo:
here's the latest from facebook..

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755

says GT-P6210 will get update.

I know us 6200 guys will be mighty upset if we dont get it.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Ceelos09:
Was about to post the same. Seems we're "likely" to get ICS, the question is just "when?"
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Noah321:
I would like the ICS update I just got this about 2 days ago. It is kind of reassuring that the rep at least mentioned it. By the way isn't it kind bof weird to make a lesser device have a new Os but not the better model? It's just kind for strange from a marketing stand point it kind of works as a hook or something just too sell the tab 2? I mean I just bought this and I chose it over the huwei after watching countless comparisons. The 7.0+ is a bit more portable since I use it as a phone you know with the groove ip. I do have a question tho I saw the reviews on on ICS on wired, pcmag, cnet alot of places and I didn't think it was all that I know this has been asked before but will windows phone 8 be avaliable on this device. And I'm using the 7.0+ from tmobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] garyd9:
I already answered that question in the OP of this thread. Hopefully I wasn't being overly optimistic.

It is nice that samsung has finally, in some official form, announced that ICS will come.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] clubtech:
The 7+ WILL be upgraded to ICS. This should be true to both the wifi and 3G versions.

From Samsung:

"SEOUL, Korea – March 13, 2012 – Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., the global leader in Android™ smartphones, today announced the availability of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) software upgrade for GALAXY S II. The upgrade will begin in the European countries including Poland, Hungary, and Sweden, as well as Korea today and gradually roll out to other markets. Android 4.0 ICS software upgrade for GALAXY Note, GALAXY SII LTE, GALAXY R, GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus, 7.7, 8.9, 8.9 LTE and 10.1 will follow soon."

REF http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2....0-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-Upgrade-for-GALAXY-S-II

What is interesting though is that there has been ZERO leaks for the 7.7 or 7+. In fact there has been also zero leaks for the Galaxy Note as well (the only leaks came from China for the chinese model and one for the AT&T model, but nothing for the global model).

Looks like Samsung got a pretty good handle on how they do stuff and how to stop the leaks.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Ceelos09:
Yeah, I did see that. Being a long time Samsung user, I've come to expect that from them. It took them 6 months just to get us Froyo, and 8 Months for GB. The only thing that's keeping me with my current Samsung Phone is the wonderful CM/AOSP support from our (XDA) Devs.

Honestly, I could care less if Samsung releases this tomorrow, or 6-8 months+ like my phone. As long as we can get a stable AOSP variant, I'll be good :)

Although, that's probably very well just "wishful thinking".

Nevertheless, locera and aorth have been doing a wonderful job of porting CM9 thus far.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] r0ck09:
ICS is coming soon

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/24/ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades-for-samsung-devices/
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ps000000:
Yes "Soon"

Still waiting
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] rtfm1777:
As a minimalist user who only needs a music player, streaming radio tuner, ebooks, a web browser, netflix, and the occasional crossword puzzle I ask again...

Why do I want ICS?

I'm happy with what I've got. Very happy.

Other than the ability to tinker like garyd9, what is it that you lot don't have that ICS is going to give you?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] gingerboy92:
this is xda-dev[/] forum.. it doesn't make sense to ask such a question on this kind of forum i i think..

anyway.. i should stop hoping since their last update on ICS status for anything other than the s2 brings no date what-so-ever.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] rtfm1777:
Just a general question... in the General forum.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] tzacapaca:
check yourself ;)

http://www.differencebetween.com/di...eycomb-and-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich/
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Vivified:
I really want the lockscreen music player for Google Music. That would be rad, I don't like having to unlock my device to just change the track.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] rtfm1777:
Nice link, thanks!

Looks like the 'Recent Apps' button and 'Zero Camera Shutter Lag' might be good reasons to try it.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] cbill702:
Promises unkept should not be rewarded

rtfm:

Given the "minimalist" list of things you like to do, why did you pay the extra bucks for a "Real" android tablet SGT 7 plus rather than a "Fire" or a "Nook"?

I bought mine, and paid the extra bucks, so I would have maximum utility, flexibility, compatibility, and upgradability for the money. Unfortunately , it appears the upgradability that I thought was a part of the deal is unnecessarily being blocked or delayed, and that is having considerable negative impact on the other reasons for purchase I mentioned.

If you are not in the least concerned, then I suppose you really did not need a 7Plus to meet your needs in the first place, so you may truly be unaffected, or you just may not be fully aware of the improvements an ICS update will provide.

I have 2 Transformers, a Xoom, and an Nook Color that have been upgraded to ICS. I know the improvements the upgrade brought to all of those devices and would not go back to Honeycomb: Therefore I bought my 7+ based on the prevailing information available at the time; that an ICS update would be coming soon.

That has not happened: Instead Samsung has released a cheaper downgrade Tablet, that is somewhat similar to the 7+, costs less, and features ICS as a selling point. It not only undercuts the 7 Plus, but will probably cause considerable delay in my receiving product (ICS) that I was led to believe was part of my purchase.

I would say your situation is probably somewhat uncommon among 7 Plus owners on this forum. Hopefully this will help ypu understand why many of us are concerned and upset by Samsung's actions.

My concern has caused me to return, today, my cherished 7 Plus. I have decided it is best to wait this out on the sideline. If Samsung comes through with the ICS upgrade in the next couple of months, then I will have the option of re-purchase; if they do not then I will be looking at the alternate 7" Tablets with ICS.

Hope this provides another aspect of the problem for you to consider.

Cbill
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] fcorona76:
This makes me a little sad that I don't have ICS and curious to see if this actually works now?

http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/Samsung-Galaxy_Tab_2-Android_4-ice_cream_sandwich-iOS,1-197.html

I'm almost tempted to go to Best Buy to buy one of these to test out and see if Peel support was bullshitting me or not. I really would like to keep my GT7+ for the geek factor but...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Ceelos09:
The ET4G just got a leak for their (CLOSE to) official ICS update. One step "closer" for our ICS...wonder when the rest of the GS2 will get theirs...baby steps...baby steps...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] aimfire72:
I have a 7+ and picked up a Gtab 2 at Bestbuy on Monday. Very impressed with ICS and the performance of this thing! Runs really snappy even with the lesser processor. I haven't tried Peel app yet, but will give it a go and let you know.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
Yeah, if it's a 7+ it's honeycomb, not ics...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Vivified:
He said he has a 7+ and just picked up the Tab 2.0. He was referring to the new device he just purchased.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
Yeah, my bad.. It was too early to be awake
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] gingerboy92:
it's 1 May(here, at least), and samsung canada has announced that ICS will start rolling today.. good guess! haha!:D
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] robyr:
i just saw that too. I am really hoping we see a leak soon. They are apparently rolling out to all devices on the list too.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] dav3yb:
So there's some hope to see ICS on this thing soon? i ordered a 7plus over the tab2 because of the better specs.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] iComa:
I saw a news, Tab users in Canada started recieving a update to ICS from 30th april, is it real?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] garyd9:
The news release appears to be real, but I don't know if anyone has actually seen ICS yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] jwischka:
Not to burst your bubble, but the Tab 2's implementation of ICS has been so Touch-Wized (or Cheeze-Whiz-ed, really) that it's hardly any different from Honeycomb on the 7 Plus.

What we'll really need, to be honest, is the source release. Short of that, an ICS release is not going to differ substantially from what we already have.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] robyr:
Honeycomb and ICS are so similar that even AOSP isn't that much different. Seriously, the Touchwiz hate is so strong I think it is begining to blind certain people.

The main benefit to ICS are the version specific APIs that allow new apps like Chrome and such. These APIs will be intact, and that's what matters to most users.

Touchwiz, in my opinion, adds a great deal of value to this tablet. In particular because of the resolution handicap the Plus has to work with.

EDIT: To clarify, Honeycomb is the building block toward the unification of Gingerbread and ICS. The people who notice the most change will be the GB devices that get the upgrade, not HC tablets.

/end rant.