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[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
At this point, I only want the update for the sake of 100% working WiFi calling, that is all.

The complaints and such related jabber are very annoying. But this is further reason for T-Mobile to taking so long. Those same people wanting an update right now would be some of the very same ones wanting out of their contract if T-Mobile gives them a bad OTA.

And T-Mobile knows they were not the ones who ever claimed any specific date for delivery. Not all carriers have approved the update yet and T-Mobile should take their time. Those who don't like it, can always buy only unlocked devices and get official OTAs directly from the OEM.

Even if the T-Mobile update comes the end of next month, it will still be faster than most other devices getting an ICS OTA in the US, nevermind the many in the US that won't.
[HTC Sensation] dasudevil:
HTC amaze already received the ics update so its only a matter of time before sensation gets it. Maybe this end of this month or beginning of next. Cause I don't think amaze and sensation are that much different.

This is a LEAKED version of ICS and i am using it. Really nice. Its the

unofficial

official update. :)
[HTC Sensation] wildcontigo:
Even better. Wait for the OTA, let the chefs work their magic, and flash a leaner and meaner custom rom based on it
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Google’s Jean-Baptiste Queru Talks Android Updates, Direct Phone Sales On Google+

His full Google+ post.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Wow, if somebody is waiting for an "official" ICS OTA, ya got a LONG wait coming...

T-Mobile’s Planned Dates For Ice Cream Sandwich, Upcoming Device Launches

Unlock, flash, and move on.
[HTC Sensation] kpagratis:
Do you have a source for that info?
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
My thoughts exactly some people need to quit with the complaining and ether wait or root there phone
[HTC Sensation] 93_til:
Thanks!

Since the official update isn't coming out for a while, what's the best ICS ROM out there? Thank in advance.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
That's rather subjective, but ARHD is as close to an official update as you'll get at the moment...
[HTC Sensation] 93_til:
Sweet. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
T-Mobile News often gets scoop from their trusted sources, that cannot be named or they'd probably be repremanded by T-Mobile management or worse.

What you see in the photo on that blog post is most likely T-Mobile documentation only viewable by select employees. This is how it usually goes with scoop from the T-Mobile News blog. It's not an official T-Mobile site, and that's why it provides the best scoop. People inside T-Mobile feed the blog news in secret. Stuff T-Mobile management won't authorize go public. But once it's leaked, you can't put the genie back in the bottle ;) . If you are with T-Mobile and have not been keeping up with that blog, you should.

Yea, it's very subjective. I roll with EnergyROM myself. It's really as close to the official update IMHO, because it does not come with SebastianFM's Kernel hacks.
[HTC Sensation] SinisterModz:
At least sensation is getting some love, my HTC Flyer will never see ics. Supposedly someone is working on a Rom but the Flyer community had to pitch in and buy him one.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
That's optional... I run the stock kernel.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
I could care less about the "official" update as I rarely use wifi calling and am already on ics, but I am interested in Cincinnati Bell's radio as they do use TMo's towers. Search pulled nothing up, can someone point me in the right direction please?

Or even the entire update file as I (or someone else) can rip it apart. The devs building Sense roms may want it to look at and adjust their tmous add ons.
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
So far the faux kernel works very well for me.
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
The radio I'm using had significantly improved my cellular performance. I still need to test WiFi calling though, everything else has been running smoothly.
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
WiFi calling works fine for me. However I only seem to be getting a 40m accuracy with GPS.
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
Which radio are you using? I've tried the European and the one Mike provided for tmous users, but neither provides as good of a signal nor speeds as when I was running the current official tmous rom/radio (1.50) combo.
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
Huh. I'm using the radio provided by Mike. Radio: 11.69.3504.00P_11.22.3504.07_M
[HTC Sensation] Chained90:
There's no point in waiting for carriers to update phones.
[HTC Sensation] SinisterModz:
Screw ics I want some jelly bean action
[HTC Sensation] Lord60:
Not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but here it is anyway. I read today that it's confirmed that TmoUS will not roll out ICS until June 16th... putting it right smack in the middle of the year, not early in the year. hafta love the irony.

Anyway, that's what it is.:mad:
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I've got a MyTouch 4G Slide that is seeing no ICS action as of yet. And the next in the MyTouch line is slated to drop in July. Given T-Mobile's greater control over the MyTouch line and the fact there's no ICS announcements at all for it. (And we know HTC would make an update if T-Mobile ordered one.) The far more plausibly conspirarcy theory, would be regarding a device like this.

I've also got a G-Slate that only gets Honeycomb updates that lock its bootloader. (After the last OTA I got from them, I had to unlook and re-root the tablet again. And they've done that in OTAs twice.)

But really, devices that sell well get updates far more than devices that don't.

You are given the option to select the clock speed that the processor will run at, but its still a modified kernel. The Kernel cooks tweak far more than just clock speed, especially now that they have the code from HTC.

WiFi calling issues are most noticable on a weak WiFi signal. I have literally had a device with ICS (Sensation) and GB (MT4GS) side by side. And with a weaker WiFi signal, the Sensation with ICS can't do jack but maybe eek out an SMS message. With GB on my Sensation, I was able to use WiFi calling just fine, even when the WiFi signal is weak.

I thought that was why we're all here in the first place :D ? (Of course, that's a rethorical question.)

Yea, we got that some time ago.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
Are you sure about that? There are three seperate kernels included. (Faux, Sebastian, and stock) I don't see anything in the arhd thread stating that the stock kernel has been modified...Exactly what has been modified?

According to the arhd op, there has been the ability to flash a 100% stock unmodified kernel since 6.5.3

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] chittybangbang:
Better late than never
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
OK, I was looking at the wrong thread. There is a 100% stock version here.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
A lot of 4G owners thought just because HTC released the Rom T-Mobile had no control over the release. I kinda feel sorry for those that got their hopes up if they don't want to risk bricking there phones that's their choice. A lot of people such as myself have no problems rooting and flashing now that tmo has released a road map of ics releases I wonder if everyone will stop complaining or will this cause more arguments

My wife's phone (T-Mobile GX2) is not seeing ics action ether the "New" update for that phone was a gingerbread releas and its still not a stable Rom so we flashed it to CM7 and no problems. This let's you know why the ics Rom got sent back tmo dosent want an unstable rom. A lot of people want to see ics on this phone possibly not going to happen but sensation owners should not complain and argue about when the ics Rom is coming out just go with the flow or root flash and enjoy the ics goodness
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
No, its in arhd 6.6.3

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Perhaps, but Mike has made it clear that arhd 6.6.3 is not the 100% stock edition. So there is a 100% stock edition, even more stock than EnergyROM. And it's this one. So someone wanting the 100% from HTC stock edition should get that.
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
I got an idea, why don't you download both of the ROMs and then decompile the kernels and compare them. That will tell you if they are both the same kernel. I am sure someone with your vast experience in working with software development can handle doing that.
[HTC Sensation] kevsteele:
Oh, this absolutely made my evening. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Even someone with your lack thereof could do that. Tell us what you find.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
I can assure anyone that's wondering, the "stock" kernel included in ARHD6.63 has not been compiled by either FAUX or SebastianFM. It is the stock 3.0.16-gda3fdfc kernel from the 3.32 RUU...

I flashed the stock kernel without modules and did not break wifi. I then verified "Kernel version" in Settings of each:
[HTC Sensation] Snook321:
This is why from now on, my device will be a Nexus device. Carrier branded devices are not the way to go. Its like your at the mercy of a carrier to release an update (See G2X). Look at Verizon Galaxy Nexus still stuck on 4.0.3 while the Unlocked GSM branded Galaxy Nexus's are up to date with 4.0.4. After this Sensation 4G, Im getting a Nexus...
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
And this, sir, is why you root a device (and all those other things) so that you can do whatever you want with it (ahem, slap on a custom ROM).

Outside of that, there's not much different in 4.0.4 from 4.0.3 (by version numbers alone that makes it a patch release).
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Both views have their merits, rooting & S-OFF a carrier branded or get an unlocked Nexus series.

The drawback with getting unlocked devices used to be them not being able to get "T-Mobile 3G" back in the day. With 4G, the unlocked devices such as the unlocked Galaxy Nexus get full T-Mobile USA 4G.

But now, T-Mobile has WiFi calling and I may have missed something, but I don't think the WiFi calling works on the unlocked Galaxy Nexus. T-Mobile's keeping it locked up for obvious reasons.
[HTC Sensation] Snook321:
I'm a rooting noob... I wouldn't know what to do
[HTC Sensation] Snook321:
I'm a rooting noob.... I wouldn't know what to do
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
Follow this to root: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
[HTC Sensation] d3vilskid:
Tmobile amaze 4g just had a leaked(final build) of sense 3.6 ics, so don't rule out sensation as both devices are very similar.
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
The HTC Amaze is a newer device than the HTC Sensation, the Amaze is still being pushed by T-Mobile. The Amaze is still one of the devices on t-mobile'.com's home page (Cough so is the cough cough HTC One) , just click on "Fastest 4G Smartphones".. Where as the Sensation is no where near the home page anymore. So do not be surprised if the Amaze has a official release before the Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Are you talking about this? That leaked over a week ago.

The good thing, is that atleast WiFi calling works in that Amaze ICS ROM. So we know that matter may be done. But there seems to be more issues than that which need to be 100% ready.

We have the leaked doc, that both will likely see the update in a little more than a month. So it's coming.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
This in from T-Mobile

Source:

I guess it may be coming before next month after all :) .
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Yeah great news
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
To get this OTA, I know I have to take off root but will I also have to S-On or can I get it with S-Off?

Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] strauss0829:
Ho wwould be go back to stock to get the OTA do we need to s-on again and reflash some kind of RUU or is their a easier way ??
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
Do NOT s-on! Quickest cleanest way is to flash stock 1.50.531.1 ruu. You need the stock recovery and all system apps from that build (again 1.50.531.1) installed for the ICS ota to apply correctly to your device.
[HTC Sensation] banderz777:
You must have stock recovery and stock gingerbread rom, you can have S=OFF and I think you must change your CID to T-MOB010 but I could be wrong.
[HTC Sensation] strauss0829:
Good to know anyone can confirm or guide please and link RUU and stock recovery img file
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Are people getting the update now?
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I don't think or at least I have not heard/read of anyone getting it "tonight". But it's that "soon" thing. You know, sooner than yesterday, but not soon like the soon mentioned last month :D :p . This is the new, sooner soon :D .

Really, the good news is that we now know all the testing is finished. So they just have to determine the actual launch date, and it looks like it will be well before mid-June.
[HTC Sensation] mugetsu666:
Okay here the link for the latest ruu for us http://db.tt/Csm6gbQ8 and everything stock and cid back to tmobiles and u can keep s-off.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Yeah I wonder how many people that have read the update have already reflashed back to stock
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
Will flashing this RUU automatically put the phone's CID back to TMobo's?

Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
No I think you have to manually change your CID back to T-Mobiles CID.
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
I'll wait for the official notice to un-root (is that a word? :confused::D)

---------- Post added at 04:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:03 PM ----------

Maybe I should've asked this also...

I know I can keep S-off but does CID need to be stock TMo?
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
Process I took on my wife's before the last OTA... flash stock ROM, then stock recovery, suffer the let down of stock lol.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
No CID can stay 1111111 or how many numbers it is Only thing that NEEDS to be stock is the recovery I think you can install the OTA from a Custom rom as long as you have the stock recovery.... Don't quote me on that :P

The last OTA I had SuperCID and was able to flash the stock rom after an RUU install
[HTC Sensation] jomaxwel:
I'm on a ics rom now do I have to go back to a stock rom/radio prior to running this?

Or maybe just flash your new rom hmm what to do? ;)

Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
If I'm not mistaken, I believe this takes you back to the last configuration including GB, and firmware/radio.

Anyone else can confirm?
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
Stock unmodified rom is necessary, and proper cid is needed for the device to pull the proper OTA...

fastboot oem writecid T-MOB010
[HTC Sensation] jomaxwel:
I bricked a sensation trying to flash back to stock for warranty reasons once before. First phone I've ever bricked and been running custom roms sence the g1. I thought there was a step in between.

Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] mugetsu666:
I've gone from gb to ics back to gb all in a day. Just flash the rom and the reboot into bootloader and do the firmware update. I went straight from 3.32 back to 1.17 with no issues.
[HTC Sensation] AntwanL:
If you install a stock tmo ruu does it automatically change supercid to stock cid? I couldn't get arhd to flash properly on sensation 4G and went back to stock using the 1.5xxxx tmo ruu and it installed fine from bootloader but idk what all changed.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
Has everyone flashed back to stock?
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
What is the point in going back to stock to get the official ota? You know there will be a recovery flashible one up on XdA as soon as its out.

I'm on Dark Forest 5.1 right now. Not sure that I can go back to sense 3.6 now. Sense 4 is so nice.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
How long after the OTA update releases should we see the RUU
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
It will most likely be leaked before the OTA drops.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Exactly, we often get it via a leak before it even gets to everyone else via OTA. Using customized ROMs, we're often updates ahead of the "official" stuff all the time :D .
[HTC Sensation] dilfatx:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1633144
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
That news was posted here yesterday.
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
Just curious...

Once the "official" RUU (leaked or otherwise) is out, do devs typically update their ROMs with the newest "official" one right away?

Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Yes.
[HTC Sensation] strauss0829:
Hey I flashed back to stock in anticipation of the new OTA ...now do I need to S-on and change CID to T-MO or is the RUU I flashed gona do the job correctly and ill receive the update like normal ?
[HTC Sensation] geoffcorey:
No need to son ever for ota (iirc). But you need to cid back to the tmo-us cid (don't remember it off the top of my head).
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
It's T-MOB010 if I'm not mistaken.
[HTC Sensation] strauss0829:
Yea but how do I switch cid back is what I'm concerned with
[HTC Sensation] bonebeatz1234:
About time this phone Get ics the galaxy s 3 and other phones will be out so if you like me root /flash a Rom and enjoy.Ics was out when I got this phone, almost a year ago carriers take forever. I don't know why you would keep this phone stock and wait forever for ota.
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
Same way you did SuperCID just with what others are saying here.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
I just find it funny I bricked my vibrant in Dec. To get GB they come out with the update a week after atleast this time I get to play with ICS before upgrades lol. I al just glad its coming
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
Connect by usb to fastboot and type:

fastboot oem writecid T-MOB010

I'm not sure if it will work with locked hboot 1.18 so you may have to temporarily flash the unlocked 1.17
[HTC Sensation] waxlabo:
awesome, can't wait till this starts rolling out. :)
[HTC Sensation] cashman0712:
Me neither. I had the Exhibit II 4G for a while and it was a great phone, and I was using CM9 on it, but I wanted an even faster phone, and found one of these Sensations online for about $200 off contract. Couldn't beat that I said, and bought it! But using GB has been so frustrating when you are used to ICS. I had Chrome and everything on my older phone, then nothing again lol. Can't wait, very son better mean this weekend!!!
[HTC Sensation] strauss0829:
Confirmed working even on lock 1.18 after checking with CMD

fastboot getvar cid

and it reads T-MOB010

thanks a bunch
[HTC Sensation] Luigiesin:
Can't wait to have Wi-Fi calling again!!!
[HTC Sensation] djdant:
Same here!
[HTC Sensation] strauss0829:
Me 2 :-) I am just wondering exactly when they are releasing this bad boy
[HTC Sensation] sroach23:
probably Wednesday so that i have to sit here flashing my phone instead of studying for finals.
[HTC Sensation] Sinistra425:
I guess what I find odd about this is Google is going to announce "jelly bean" in what june. And we are seeing out update in may? Is this how t-mobile works? When google is about to announce the "next big thing" an update is released? Makes ya wonder
[HTC Sensation] monkor:
It doesn't really make me wonder at all. Google is making a new OS, probably releasing it on the new Nexus, and its probably a very minor upgrade from ICS. Hell, it might even be an update and not an entirely new OS. Better yet, it might get unveiled on a Nexus but be intended for tablets, in which case it flies under the radar much like the heralded Honeycomb update of a year or two ago. Until carriers decide to allow pure OS on their phones we'll never get immediate updates. So if you're dissatisfied, it might behoove you to get a Nexus series from here on out
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
o

Yes the update from Gingerbread to ICS was a pretty major jump as Android got a major overhaul with ICS. This is why this update is so important, just look at all the changes ICS has over gingerbread. And yes the next update of Jelly Bean may not be that big of a update because ICS was such a major update. But the whole reason that ICS was such a big update is because Google wanted to merge the Android OS for phones and the Android OS for tablets. That way Android looks and feels the same on either device. So I highly doubt we will ever see a Android version that is just for tablets again.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kmoore11:
Recently my volume down key stopped working. It must have gotten stuck or something, because there is no longer the 'click' I still get from my volume up button.

Being rooted, and liking to change things up frequently, this causes some issues. If my ROM stops working or I get stuck with boot loops, I won't be able to get into recovery to fix the problem, and will be left with a brick essentially. So does anybody know of a fix for this? Or is there a way to boot into recovery from my computer through adb or something. Thanks for the help!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Adb reboot recovery should do the trick.

If it responds. Depending on what happens and how far the boot gets.
[HTC One X] omar302:
Once the bootloader is unlocked (via HTCDev) can the CID be changed to an another region using the "fastboot oem writecid " command?
[HTC One X] vallandil:
Not without S-OFF

we have to wait some more.........xD
[HTC One X] omar302:
With the Evo 3D it was possible even with S-On.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] eddymonti:
Greetings from Portugal.

Before I start, yes, I have tried searching for it. Found a couple of old threads that didn't help much...

My question is: Is there a way to watch any video format without it stopping every few minutes?

If I use the stock player everything is fine, but it cannot support several video formats like avi, rmvb... etc. I use the MX player, but on some types of video, it stopps every few minutes. It's sooooo annoying!

From what i've seen in some threads, it happens with other video apps too. AND, when i am watching something directly from the internet, like fastpasstv, the video stops loading also every few minutes. I have to restart the loading from the middle... not hard, but also annoying. (using stock browser, and this doesn't happen on youtube for example)

Is the issue related? Since it seems to be happening to both online and offline video viewing...

I am stock, non-rooted, and non-unlocked... Wifi is fine.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Stefan662:
I have the same problem. But it is a MX Player specific one for me. BS Player works fine (but has other issues).

Edit: I tried with the 'Performance Mode' and it works so far. Maybe a workaround?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BUYMECAR:
I never have this problem when streaming one of many video formats from my PC to my Prime using ES File Manager to find the video files on my PC and MX to play them as streams.

Is this something that you tend to experience with streams/videos being played directly on the Prime?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Stefan662:
For me it is locally played .ts videos.

Meanwhile I found this thread http://groups.google.com/group/mx-videoplayer/browse_thread/thread/533d7296c0305183

It might be a Prime/ICS problem. There seems to be no solution up to now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fsured:
I get this same issue trying to stream video from sites other than youtube. It is when I'm streaming that I get most of the lock ups with the prime, reboots, etc. Maybe it is something to do with the allotted cache size of the browser being used up and cleared to make room for more buffered video?

It is rather annoying. You basically have to let it load and watch the whole thing as it goes. If I hit pause or so anything else then it risks stopping the stream where ever its at in the buffering. It's nice to have it start loading up, hitting pause, and walking away for a few minutes to let it buffer up. But then when I come back it would have just stopped about a 1/3 into it or 1/2 way. It would require hitting the reload button at the top or having to close the browser, kill it in the task manager, and then reopen it.

I don't have this issue with Netflix though. They did something right in their app.