yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
+1

I'm having a similar dilemma considering my next. By the time N4 reaches here it will be a lot costlier than it originally is because of taxes, shipping cost, sellers interest . Like with N7 16 gb which was 249$ in US initially it is still selling for a whopping 380$ here ...according to that math prices of new 16gb N4 when it comes and Note2 wont be much different..I can get a note2 for about 600$ now...dont know how much will change when the N4 comes ...

Handled a Note2 today at a store and it doesnt seem that big a device to me :confused: my hands are too big I guess...
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Yup... But 8gb and 16 gb are dismal storage options, given that they'll be around 5 and 12 gb respectively to the user. Load up Sygic, two hd games, one load of titanium app backup, a couple of nandroids...that's it. You won't even have space to record a 5 min hd video. 32 gb is the bare minimum required today. It's going to jump up and bite you in the ass very soon. So think carefully before you buy one. Is a 32 gb version in the works? Any announcements?

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
I share the same thoughts as you about the Nexus...

But, am itching to buy a new phone on my birthday (in a couple of weeks)! & am not sure if N4 would be officially released by then.

Also., N4 at 28-30 K would be too much considering the 19-20K price from the play store in the US.

So, Guess It's wait and watch for now...

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Well, I'm still using the 8 GB sdcard that came with my DS and it's enough for me. I would need more space on a bigger device (also, apps would be joint with user storage) but 16 GB would suffice. Of course, it's different for everyone ;)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
@Oly,

Have you received your exam timetable yet? Mine's terrible. It's just consecutive exams. I think I get one break... for general studies :(
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Exams already? I thought you guys only started 6th Form a couple of months ago :eek:
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Yep, first exam on the 9th of January. Not too bad. But haven't got much time to revise. I have to save all the games for the summer :(
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
I see there is some confusion about thermal throttling, what it does, and why.

First, it's software, unless it's critical temperature, in that case there are usually failsafe methods to kick in.

What it does? The cpu temperature is constantly monitored, and if it reaches a given threshold, the core frequency is lowered to prevent overheating.

So: thermal throttling is a good thing. Period.

What could be the issue with the N4 compared with the original Optimus G, is that the OG actually has more aggressive throttling settings, and starts to cut down the frequency way before the N4. The N4 is just probably running full tilt until it reaches the failsafe threshold, causing it to jump to the lowest frequency possible.

It could even be just a fine tuned frequency governor on the OG.

In any case, with the kernel sources available, and in real life usage, I doubt this will be a problem.

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Well... To put it that way- if Lowveld is getting one, then we musn't worry about having a great kernel/fine tuned rom for n4.

My wallet is ready. I'll give it a shot...

[EDIT]

Umm.... I mean 'not having'... whatever... I'm tired... Whole day of driving around in this weather is taking it's toll. :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yes, kill me now.

9th January Biology. 10th Chemistry. 11th Physics. 15th Economics.

You? Feel ready? :p

Yeah, its the way ours goes :(

Probably during your time everything was linear and talking at the end of the 2 year A Level course. Now its split it into modular exams, which all add up to your final grade at the end.

If you do bad, you can resit modules etc, but obviously no one wants to be doing that! :)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
I think mines the same but I've got maths when you have physics. I can't confirm that though, college website keeps kicking me out!

Definitely not ready. Still gotta finish learning everything in the test :p. But I'm revising. You?

I'm not sure if you've heard but January exams are being scrapped next year to reduce resits! That includes us in our second year!!

I thought we had avoided it but sadly not :(
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Haha, same here, been revising more than at GCSE stage. Content is much more challenging. Do you know your predicted grades?

An, heard about that, but apparently it doesn't affect us, as we are still part way in the 2 year course? I though it only affect the next year!
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Not yet. You?

http://www.channel4.com/news/january-exams-scrapped-in-a-level-reform

I saw it here. Not sure how accurate it actually is though. Let's hope it's not true :p
[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
Decided to wait til upgrade time for a new device. Only nine months!

Only nine months...

I wonder if you'll look in the DS forums in 8 months and just find me telling myself to flash the boot.img seperately over and over.

£279 is a lot of Christmas though, and I decided that's probably a more worthy cause than myself. How big of me.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Fraid so I'm afraid, got a friend in the education department.

"When it comes to thought, some people stop at nothing".
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
So Android 4.2 OTA started, and its time for the ones on AOSP to wait for 4.2 code drop and CM code merge :)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Here's Something awesome I found, Google Earth image of india on diwali -

Speaking of which, happy diwali to suku, enigmaamit, and any other Indians reading :D
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Wow, amazing. I love satellite photos. Look at those ones from burning man festival and Berlin at night
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I am really sorry to have to destroy your belief, but that photo is nothing to do with Diwali. It is an overlay of different photos taken by NASA satellites over the years to highlight India's increasing population via night illumination.

See here, or search using Google.

However, Happy Diwali to all those who celebrate it, whatever country you may be in.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Lol, then maybe someone creative saw it, made up the story and it went viral on facebook. This was posted by 5 of my friends :p
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Yeah, apparently it has been doing the rounds for a while - I remember seeing it last year and thinking how cool it looked, then found out the truth :(
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Happy Diwali to all indians...

And its gonna be CM 10.1, without power widget and enhanced quick settings

My prediction was right :)

https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/1FLFe2RzYZ7

And this is called 0 bezel :)

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/13/3639728/droid-dna-verizon-specs-features-release-date-price
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Taken from Android central twitter

"@androidcentral: We urge any CyanogenMod fans to give this a read. Hate to see bad things happen to good folks and a great community. :( http://t.co/MT4R6jlv"

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
F-me - that is awful. What kind of person does something like that for a few buck? Ah well - his reputation will be well and truly destroyed for life after this stunt I reckon. I hope that Steve and CM go after him and make him pay.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Can't believe he's done that, it's not like they make leads of money, that's seriously taking the p¿Ss

"I stopped fighting my inner demons, were on the same side now"
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Made me absolutely crack up. Probably more than it should have.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34108606

:D
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
What happened?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Read the link on the post for details

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Dayum!
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
So AOKP was hacked and now this. What's happening to the world....

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] rain987:
Looks like a manager with personal interest. Conflicting and unethical.

Maybe he felt that he had done so much and wanted to gain with the thought it doesn't hurt anyone one.

From the DesireS
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
One single person can do this much damage? No redundancies built into the system? No failsafe? My God that's awful.

I hope that prick pays for impersonation, falsification of data, fraud, extortion, and I'd like some venereal diseases thrown into the mix for good measure. Asshole.

Sent from my toenail
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Then rip off his head and crap down his neck
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Whoa wild people :p

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Do you like the new Android 4.2 clock app and clock on the lockscreen? To me it looks weird, hours in bold and minutes in normal font...
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Looks awesome on my Nexus 7. The clock app is amazing and I expected such an app to be added on ICS, but better late than never :p The lock screen looks weird at first but you get used to it pretty quick. Not many widgets work with the lock screen yet, but soon devs will add support, and it will be nice too :) Also, the clock widget is removable so if someone makes an old styled clock, you can easily replace it.

I'm a bit disappointed by quick settings because they're shortcuts, not switches which take you to the settings app, but custom ROMs should fix that in no time.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Quick question Shrome, do you use google now? Could you check if it shows weather card? After I've updated my n7 to 4.2 the card is gone and I've tried pretty much every single thing to get it back. No luck so far... :(
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Yup, the card comes up.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Damn... Gotta fix it somehow then :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I may have mentioned him/her before but now let me introduce you to Junior Pyett, due date 25/May/2013

Overjoyed and over the moon, makes up for the lack of a Nexus 4 this week.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Congrats to you both though.:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

"I stopped fighting my inner demons, were on the same side now"
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Haha what a comparison ;)

Congratulations mate!!
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Yayy! Congrats matey. Life changing thing... My sonny is 5 now and boy, being a dad is most fantastic job on the planet. Nothing compares to it. :thumbup:
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Congrats again, 25th May is my anniversary :)

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Tweakdeck widget causes Apex to hang once in a while. Looking for a twitter app with a decent 4x1 widget. Any suggestions?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Wow, congratulations :)
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
4.2 date picker in people app is borked :p unit test case not executed or not there altogether :)

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/17/sorry-santa-google-cancels-december-in-android-4-2/

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
now someone should get a kick up the rear for that!
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
That's the beauty of Version Control Systems. Someone already has for sure...

Sent from an undisclosed dimension
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
What's the odds that that'll be the reason why our N4s don't arrive anytime this year, 'sorry all our systems were programmed without December!' :D

Late night? Fun times? Or child trouble, preparing myself for the inevitable.......my excuse was I woke up on the sofa.....(although must make it clear that I hadn't been banished to it)

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
I guess I won't update my N7 to 4.2 when I get it...
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Why? It's really good
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
check the link a few posts above, Google somehow managed to miss the month December from the people application in 4.2 ...can see an ota fixing that some time soon.

Although assuming you sync to Google calendar you can simply work around it by changing dates through web.

Would have made more sense if they'd have missed November after the disaster of a month they've had.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I read that, but it's infinitely trivial as compared to the good stuff introduced :p Plus, 90% of the people wouldn't even have noticed it if it wasn't for the post.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I agree, the post makes much more of it and annoyingly doesn't even suggest work around.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I'd have noticed,I use my calendar daily. It's the only way I seem to be able to keep track of what I've worked.

Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
[HTC Desire S] c.m.b:
It's "just" a bug in the people's app.

The calendar app is not affected
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Yup, missing out a month in the calendar app is a pretty big bug (but no need for OTA in that case, Calender app is on Play Store), missing it in the people app, not so much. Who manually adds birthdays anyway? If one needs them, he should sync from Facebook/G+ ;)
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I don't use the sync, but I do add manually. A lot of birthdays in December(I'm useless at remembering)

Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Bugs, many apps are not yet updated to support 4.2, people complain about glitches and perfomance drops, I don't find the new design of some features and apps that nice (look at new clock and LS clock, looks awful like some little child made it), new notification/toggles separation doesn't feel convinient to me, plus 4.2 doesn't have THAT many new features compared to 4.1.x unlike 2.3 -> 4.0 upgrade. So I'll just stay on 4.1.2 until Google releases something like 4.2.3 with all the current 4.2 bug fixes

---------- Post added at 03:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:27 PM ----------

My b-day is in December also :D
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
not this year it's not ! :D

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
LOL

Damn you Google, you ruined my b-day and christmas:D
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Bump bump :)

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Only if Jesus is one of your contacts ;)

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
"We're sorry, but due to overwhelming demand, your savior is on backorder. It will be delivered sometime in January. Probably. We don't really know. Or care."
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Tweetdeck
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Anything apart from the two?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] ben_s247:
:laugh:
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Nope. I tried slices etc but keep defaulting back to TweetDeck

Sent from my toenail
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Same here. Nothing beats the speed of TweetDeck, just need something different :)

Also TweetDeck doesn't fit well in AOSP

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Guys....

I've been playing with the idea of getting a Nexus 7 for the last 2 weeks. I am looking at getting the 32GB version. Currently £199 at numerous high street stores in the UK. But I can't decide!!

Primarily I would use it for games (nfs most wanted) and films/videos. Basically it would be an entertainment device for travelling and chilling out on the Sofa in the evenings.

Who else here owns/wants one? How does it perform? Games? Battery? Build quality? And value for money?

Please sway me to buy this gorgeous device!
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I don't 'own' one, but work bought one as a demo for our EPoS solutions and I love it. It spends most of its life with me and everyone who sees it thinks it's great - even Apple freaks normally admit that it looks special, widgets and the like tend to make people reconsider their stance.

For the price I couldn't recommend it enough - the only reason I haven't bought one of my own is because I get this one to play with for free.
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Cheers Simon.

I've been trying out a few over the last couple of days in store. Really nice device! How does it perform with intensive games like gta3 3 or asphalt 6/7? Is battery life ok? Quoted battery is 8-9 hours use time.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
The battery has seemed fine to me. I haven't spent hours playing games on it, but I I've never had cause to complain.

Our customers use them extensively on wireless from before midday until after midnight every day and don't need to recharge during that period.
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Cheers mate. It all sounds promising! The only thing holding me back is regretting not getting the nexus 10 in a few months from now. That's if it came down in price a LOT! At the moment 380 is WAYYY too much to spend on a tablet!
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I guess a lot of it depends on what you want as well. For me a 10" tablet is just too damn big. If I want something that big I use my laptop. 7" is fine for just about everything - including watching HD movies and reading books.
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
I agree. U lose the portability factor as soon as you go past a 7" tab. I think my mind is made up! 32gig for under 200 quid is just too much of a good deal to turn down. I read somewhere the other day that the nexus 7 had frame rate issues with nfs most wanted.... No idea if that is an issue with the game or a limitation of the device! Have you tried this particular game or similar?
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I can try it for you tomorrow as I've got the full game. It seems that there are actually problems with this game on most platforms from what I can read - supposedly my 4X HD has lagging issues, but I have never noticed them while playing.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Don't you need 3G on the tablet?
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
3G for what? You can get the N7 with 3G for about £40 extra.
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Nope no need for 3g. I'll tether my phone to it for net when I'm away from home and there's no hotspots. It would be £40 wasted in my case.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
At least you could save some battery on your phone. I know how much power it drains lol
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
True. But I wouldn't really use it for browsing whilst not at home. Mainly games and vids. So not such a big deal for me
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
You are already defending it, so I think you know your choice already ;)

You can get it for £179 at Curry's by the way!

Have out tried the JB leak by the way?
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Have owned one since launch and have to say that for the money its fantastic, the almost immediate updates to the latest versions of android is the icing on the proverbial cake. Running stock rooted 4.2 with lean kernel and its flying. If my daughter wasn't such an apple fan-girl I would be buying her a 32gb for christmas :rolleyes:

Sent from my Nexus 7
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Do it anyway, she will get used to it and learn to like it pretty fast I guess and in the end, your the parent, you know what's good for her^^

Just joking :)
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
I know! Haha! I came so close to buying one today too! Is 179 the base price of them in curry? Or is that a cash back deal?

Not tried the JB leak for the s2 yet. Have you? I haven't had the time yet. Had a friend visiting from London the whole weekend. Maybe will download it tomorrow and Flash when I get home from work;)
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Girls always like Apple, in my college - 60% of them arr using iPod, iPhone or an iPad. Mostly iPad, though
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Hello world!!!

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Very cute - but they don't stay that size or that quiet for long :p
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Congratulations my friend! Hope you slept ahead... :)

Sent from an undisclosed dimension
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Congratulations :beer::beer::beer:

Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
If 3 to 4 hrs is called hood sleep, yes I slept :p

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Wow, baby weeks at xda :p

Congrats mate, you just created new life
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Now the fun really starts, please take copious notes and let me know what I'm really in for..... Congratulations to all three of you!

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Notes won't help you, for the first few months they won't do a lot other than, cry, sleep, eat and make lots of bad smelling mucky nappies. But that first smile (probably wind) will melt your heart.

Oh and you'll wonder how something so small can make such a really bad smell

Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
To be brutally honest mate - if he gave you genuine notes you would run for the hills as fast as your legs could carry you.

The good thing is that when you look back on it in years to come, the human psyche only seems to let you remember the good bits - maybe because if you remembered the bad bits as well then the human race would be very short-lived.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
I am now the proud owner of a Nexus 7 32gb!:D
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
+1

lol,

Just to be clear, the notes quip was completely intended to be tongue in cheek.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Congrats, but why are you still using your 9100 to post here :P
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Literally just got the N7 when I posted that ;)

Filled it up with some decent games last night. Asphalt 7 runs amazingly well! :D
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Asphalt 7 sucks. Wait till you try NFS Most Wanted, Dead Trigger, Shadowgun Deadzone or any THD Game. Gameloft games barely utilize the processing power, that's why they have ****ty graphics. One of my favorite games ever, is Rayman Jungle Run, and it will probably work fine on the Desire S too ;)
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Nice! Thanks for the tip! I'll try nfs most wanted tonight. I got Rayman jungle run, agree that it's great ;)
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Dad gummit, I hope that N7 32GB+3G appears here in Russia by Christmas, so my parents could get it for me as a present :D

Though 16GB has started selling here only in mid-October, which is almost 3 months after it appeared in the US
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Is the 3G version 3G only or WiFi+3G? Never really read anything about that since I don't use 3G at all, but a friend was interested.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_32gb_hspa

Wi-Fi + 3G :)
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
How many 3G-only devices have you seen in your life?;)
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
@eclipse_droid before doing anymore get the boot loader unlocked :

fastboot oem unlock

It wipes everything but at least you won't have put too much on there :thumbup:
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
iPads have a 3G only model :p

Thanks, it would be my first instinct to check there, but sadly, I can't view play store devices here, since they aren't sold in India.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
I like this http://t.co/s4RgQmx8

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Do they? I'm pretty sure the 3g model has wifi as well and I've never seen a 3g only one. Sounds pretty silly if they do.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
One of my customers has a 3G iPad - and it definitely does Wi-Fi as well. Apple may be many things, but stoopid ain't one of them :silly:
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Hi guys. Just an update on my new nexus 7. I've noticed the display looks very washed out. As in colours seem to have low contrast. It's bugging me. I took it back to the shop today and swapped it for another 1 but it's just the same. Is this just how they are or is there an issue here? I'm a bit ocd about my tech
[HTC Desire S] c.m.b:
Washed out colors is a known bug, after playing a video. Doesn't matter if YouTube or gallery, but the colors come back after ~10 seconds

At games or browsing I never had the problem.
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Cheers. I tried to get a refund for it at the shop but the guy said it looks fine to him and refused a refund. Instead I only got offered a replacement.

No idea what to do now. Looks like I'm stuck with this 1:(