yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Not a lot. I'd say probably around £120. But like you said, if you're planning on sticking it on ebay, it varies greatly.

Been looking at the Xperia T. Seems to tick a lot of boxes but still thinking it could've been done better. Seems to be quite thick and I'm not a big fan of the S4. Fair enough it dominates the benchmarks but it'll be outdated soon and I'd rather not have a flagship phone which gets outdated extremely quickly
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Hey Oly, guess you got the sgs2? :D if I were in your shoes I'd sell both the Ds and the sgs2 and buy a galaxy nexus (£280 on Amazon) and pocket the change my mate just flogged his iPhone 4s and bought one, it runs super sweet on stock jelly bean
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Dad is willing to give it, as long as I get rid of the DS :p He wants me to pass it to my sister, but she doesn't want it! (I suppose its kinda weird giving it to her, as she's older than me)

So been trying to sell off the DS for my sister so the cash can contribute to an iPhone 5.

Yeah, that's a good thought :p I was considering after seeing the price has tumbled down!

Thanks mate!
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
No problem, even if you end up just selling the ds you still have an excellent phone in the sgs2, rooted my mates s2 last weekend and it feels (almost) as quick as my s3 :p
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I have to agree, it looks like a nice phone - and a much better shape, to my mind, than the HOX or SGS3.

The development looks pretty swift too - CyanogenMod 10 has already been ported to it. I'll have to go and have a play at some point.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Have already bought Apex Launcher Pro and now Nova launcher Prime drops by at throwaway prices.

Confused, should I get it or not?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Androdamus
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
For 25p you really can't turn it down :)

Sent from my Nexus 7
[HTC Desire S] miwanr:
But Xperia T display will get scratch easily. Scratch resistant glass is not like Gorilla glass, my experience when using Xperia X8 display is not scratch resistant. Although the specs say scratch resistant display.

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
@suku

Either easy it's only 25p so you cant go wrong, although I'm perfectly happy with Apex and I bought the pro version months ago :(

@miranr

Just buy a screen protector, then no reason not to buy the device

Sywepd form my SareeS
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
I've recently shifted back to Nova from Apex, and I must say that I believe the latest version feels much better than Apex. Wasn't the case with the previous versions... Apex always seemed better... but the TeslaCoil team has done a good job updating Nova and it is currently my Launcher of choice.

@suku, go for it!

As for the Xperia T, don't you guys think its a tad too thick in today's age and time where there is no real justification to carry around bulky devices? Just thinking out loud...
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
@enigma

Hello and welcome again. Your 10p very much appreciated, I bought it just in case, best to be future proof.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
I want to buy it, but I'm always going back to trebuchet.

Also enigmaamit, thickness is my concern too. Guess it all comes down to the price.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I hope it's worth it because I just bought it :)

Mind you, I got £15 free from the company Nexus 7 - registered itto the company Google account first so they got it, then registered it to my account and got a second payment :D
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Lucky you!! ;)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Any of you guys read books on your phones? I want to start reading a bit of Orwell but the phone seems rather small and my touchpad is too big and clunky. Times like this I'm sad the iPad went back and that I don't have a nexus 7 :(
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Normally at the weekend, but yes - various buddhist stuff, Asimov, Pratchett, techie stuff as well. I couldn't do it on the DS as the screen was just too small, but the Nexus 7 is the perfect size - not too heavy, not too big. The iPad is, yet again, just too big for that sort of thing.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Well looks like being a college student, I don't have the money to spend on it either. Gotta start saving up! Ridiculous though. £6.99 for a digital copy of a book. A real copy is cheaper. How does that work?!
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Nuts isn't it? And you can't even by a digital book second-hand, unlike a paper one. I wouldn't suggest it of course, but I'm sure you can find a way round the price issue if you want to ;)
[HTC Desire S] kwisatz79:
My former University has contracts with a lot of textbook publishers, so one can see (and download) their textbooks chapterwise as pdf, if your on the intranet. I guess across the channel this is not much different.

So I heard that some students downloaded the chapters and merged the pdfs for educational use. Of course this is not what your supposed to do with it, and I would never do that nor suggest you to do it. :cool:
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
One X+ ? anyone.....? Discuss ...

Couple of the issues resolved.....

Positives

Larger on board storage ( up to 64GB)

Larger capacity battery (2100mAh)

New model, overclocked CPUs Quad running at 1.7mHz

Improved front camera

Negatives

Still no removal battery

Still no sd memory card

Possibly

LTE (although haven't yet seen bands to know if it will work in UK)?

It also has improved Android JB and Sense, although these will be on the original by the end of the month.

wished for more RAM to completely future proof it

Looks like pre order on clove currently £474 from October 22nd @clove. I'm tempted anyone else? @lowveld how is your tech fund doing?

I may wait until the month end to see if the rumored 5" HTC nexus had any truth in it and attempt to get a feel what the one X developers support sounds like (not that it's ever easy to judge)

Discuss..........

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Good morning gents.

Been off for a while (life 'n stuff :rolleyes: ) but glad to back to report, that my d.s is still fine, still rocking Endy 3.4 with go launcher ex. As a matter of fact it's working so well, that I don't feel the urge to change it just "because"...

... however, if htc won't go crazy with pricing of one x+, then d.s will retire as a backup device. Specs are great, looks are even better.

I may even sell my nexus 7 to get it off contract.
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
For my opinion sure worth the upgrade from the desire s, but still the tegra SoC, overclocked can it be anyway and even if the internal storage is bigger, ah yes, you know.

Did you take a look at the New international s3 (I9305)? Lte, 2gb ram, up to 64gb internal (also available at the I9300 though) and the rest like the I9300.

I personally think the one vx is more tempting (for sure only if you don't care about lte and a midrange device is enough).

But I'm as well interested what the new htc phablet will bring.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
I admit to temptation. My time frame for changing device is coming up, I always targeted Christmas. Tech fund is at 273€ (thanks to each and everyone who contributed!), but I'll spring up the rest when the time comes, of course.

The only thing stopping me from saying right now I'll buy the thing is the locked bootloader. The other stuff, like removable battery and no SD was never really an issue for me. It really has to do with what you want your phone for. I don't store a lot of stuff on the phone, in fact, pretty much all space I have used is for nandroid backups. I've been living somewhat comfortably with an 8Gb sdcard up to now. :)

Let's see the pricing. If it's not over the top, I'll probably go with the One X+. Again, if it wasn't for the bootloader, it would be a definite "yes".

The idea of spending 600€ on a phone, and loose warranty 10 minutes after I unpack it gets on my nerves. If I break it after, my wife will never let me hear the end of it...

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Wives are always the problem when buying new devices crops up. :banghead:

Tapatalked from Desire S running Androdamus
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
O yes missed the announcement of that (I9305) A real beast, certainly ticks all the boxes, well except running Sense :( but you can't have everything....even though you might want it!

I agree the bootloader situation isn't ideal. I had hoped that they'd find an S-OFF solution by now on the ONeX, although as someone who was happy to personally XTC his DesireS it's a chance you take!

It looks very much like those devices (ONeX+, I9305 and possibly the HTC Nexus Phablet) will be fighting for the top end Android market within a month or two, both being built on solid existing models with decent existing user bases - I too am looking at a similar time frame - so roll on Christmas.
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Found something pretty interesting (at least for me^^).

Playstation mobile for android
[HTC Desire S] wageslave:
advice

Hi folks, I posted a question in the Q&A forum here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1916363

I haven't had any response, and just wonder if my post is unclear? Anyone had a look who can comment?
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Locked bootloader killed the one x when I made a change and honestly can't see HTC doing anything different in that regard with their next wave of phones, looks impressive enough but would wait for the next nexus phone to be released before making any purchases, if it is a HTC made 5" phablet the s3 is going to be sold :)
[HTC Desire S] lobsterboy1:
Anyone ever changed there ds screen. Dropped mine and it broke. I have seen them on eBay for about 13 quid but don't know if they are genuine. Also any info on how to change it, I have seen a video on you tube but it didn't show how to separate the LCD from the digitizer and glass. Cheers
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Yep - done it and it's fairly simple. I have posted the video on here before, I'll have to dig it out, and it does actually show you how to. Basically hot air to melt the tape that holds them together. If you try to just force them apart you will almost certainly break the LCD.

You will need to buy tape as well for the rebuild - it's sold in lengths of about 20 metres - but I've got loads left over if you want some.

I'll look up where I ordered my digitiser from as well - it was that sort of price and works fine.
[HTC Desire S] lobsterboy1:
Cheers that will be great. I tried to search on forum but could not find anything.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
This is the YouTube video I followed.

The Digitiser I got was from TheReplaceBase and I am more than happy with it. The first one to ship went missing, but they sent a second order without quibbling it at all. £12.95 + shipping, which was £1.20 for me.

I assume that you're in the UK - there aren't many Leeds fans abroad. If you want to drop me a PM with your details I'll dig out that tape and send some up for you.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Still can't stop laughing.

'Look at us with these fags', said the cigarettes.
[HTC Desire S] lobsterboy1:
Thanks ever so much Simon I have pm'ed you my details. I will order screen in morning, video looked not too scary so fingers crossed.
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
u smoke oly?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
No way, never touched a cigarette, and never will ;)

What makes you think so?
[HTC Desire S] rain987:
together non smokers we shall unite to starve the cigarette industry!.....
[HTC Desire S] TatoValverde:
I was really thinking about buying a HTC One X+, but reading your comments made me doubt... What is it about the bootloader that bothers you? Is there no way to unlock via htc-dev? Or is there any way to get S-Off?

Also...do you think all the development that has been made for the HOX will be compatible with the X+?

And last but not least... Even though it is not LTE, will it work in the united states? I am planning on going next year as an "Erasmus"

Thanks in advance! I dont want to spend that much money without being completely sure about it :rolleyes:

Also, having Lowveld in the dev team would be great! :D
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
It sure will be unlockable with htc-dev, but you know the downsides of it yourself and true s-off will only be possible with xtc-clip, what is irreversible.

There isn't much difference between the devices, but the roms for the hox won't work out of the box i guess. So someone needs to change the few bits (hopefully) to make them work flawless.

The hox+ has lte or did i miss something, but even without, 3g it's as well available in the states, i just would recommend you to check if the bands fit, but i think they will.
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
oh nothing just asking...maybe im myself a smoker so :-/
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
EverythingEverywhere 4G

For those guys n the UK - EE have actually put a list up on their web-site of 4G capable phones (and they aren't all iPhone 5s) :eek:

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/mobile-phones/#4G

With the news the last few days about the roll-out of the 4G network availability to the other networks sooner than planned it might just become an interesting Christmas for those of us looking to buy a new phone. :laugh:
[HTC Desire S] TatoValverde:
%&#!"$!!!! i didn't know xtc-clip was irreversible :(

So how come there is no other way to get S-OFF?? is it because no one has come up with a solution yet (i.e. revolutionary, etc) or is it something to do with the device in its own?

As for LTE, I've read that in the forthcoming months AT&T will release a LTE version, but the standard version doesn't seem to have 4G http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x+-4976.php

Anyway, knowing that 3G will work is good enough for me.
[HTC Desire S] miwanr:
It would be better if we were able to make them have an income by making products other than cigarettes. But I, you, my friend, your friend and our descendants do not buy cigarettes.

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] andrasandhi:
did someone hearing about HDX a.k.a HTC Desire X?
[HTC Desire S] miwanr:
http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_x-4951.php

From the website it informed dual core processor with Adreno 203, no front camera.

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] andrasandhi:
yeah i read that too.

it seems very promising to become the next gen of Desire Series.
[HTC Desire S] miwanr:
Why use the Adreno 203? Is the Adreno 203 is better than 205? And .... why no front camera? :thumbdown:

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Let's hope the multi-Nexus rumour is true because I sure as hell don't want this

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/exclusive-more-details-on-lgs-forthcoming-nexus-r788
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Seems fine spec wise, although 16 GB seems a bit too low and people hate that. Although I never needed anymore than the 8GB on my Desire S, 16 seems too less on the Nexus 7 :p Also, LG sucks.

And what the hell is up with a One X+? HTC just pulled an Apple on us. I hope they have a nexus coming soon, or they're in for a rough Q4 2012
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I couldn't agree more. I want/need both removable battery (for peace of mind) and sd-card (for music / data / whatever) and will not buy a phone without these two key things.

Google really need to realise that the rest of the world isn't ready for full-on cloud-integration yet.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
I'm sure I remember HTC making a change by focusing on quality rather than quantity...
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
My point exactly. HTC seems to be panicking now, since the One X hasn't really done as well as they expected, while Samsung has had a record profit.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
should certainly be an interesting month ahead......

Even though I've never even half filled my current 32Gb SD card! A 16Gb maximum storage limit for my NEXT device is just too limited! so rules the LG out - shame as everything else on the specs sheet looks magic!

@Simon

I too would ideally require an SD card, but 64GB of internal storage like the ONeX+ has could certainly persuade me other wise.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
What do you guys think of this? Seems pretty believable

http://androidandme.com/2012/10/new...ore-customization-center-enhanced-google-now/
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Seems believable and it's a wonderful idea too

Tapatalked from Desire S running Androdamus
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Stumbled upon something interesting - http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ade-similar-nexus-phones-whose-would-you-buy/

HTC is in the lead ATM, which shows that people love them, but they keep screwing up so we must "settle" with Samsung. HTC just HAS to make a Nexus, otherwise they're pretty screwed. One X+ isn't going to be much of a hit.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
For a company that's taking a hit year after year, HTC sure is an arrogant and adamant company.

The bootloader locking, lousy update policy, etc is swaying even the most ardent HTC fans (read yours truly) towards other manufacturers like Samsung. Yes, I confess I settled with Samsung because HTC just didn't have any device as good...

Good knows when they'll learn from their mistakes and realize that just making "sense" is not enough to sell phones. And dev support is going to be a big thing very soon. I don't know if you guys have realized it, but custom Roms are no longer the plaything of geeks. I'm meeting people on the streets everyday running custom firmware... things are changing. Sites like XDA are growing like Facebook... the numbers are swelling, and overlooking dev community is a big big mistake because we make up a large body of referrers who decide what device others are going to buy. I personally can vouch for the sale of over 15 smartphones because the buyers sought my recommendation. I'm sure the same is true of you guys.

HTC should learn from Sony. And realize that not everybody can pull an Apple stunt.

Rant over. Doc out.

Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SIII
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
People talking about how amazing the new panoramic feature on the iPhone 5 is after the latest advert. Cheeses me off
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'll apologize for posting old news, I don't know if you all have seen this...but I've only just had a chance to catch up and watch it......its of interest as I'm teetering on the edge of considering new devices and jumping from the comfortable home territory of HTC to Sammy....(enimgaamit - yes me too)

Samsung, What Did We Do to Make You Hate Us? – XDA Developer TV
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
Considering Samsung as well (Note II). But, might wait for a month or two to see what surprise Google has in store for us !!! ;)
[HTC Desire S] alirez_sos:
hi

im porting my sabsa prime to desire s

and i need tester

if someone want to test my rom plz pm me

thanks
[HTC Desire S] DvirTTT:
yes, i agree with tapur007
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Why the hell doesn't gtalk have file transfer. Have to resort to whatsapp :(

Tapatalked from Desire S running Androdamus
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
The iPhone 20, and Samsung Galaxy S23
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Would also fit for htc, but i still like the pic, the only thing is, in reality it should be a Sith with the saber and a jedi with the shield^^

Samsung responded pretty fast, how long did it take at htc? ;)

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-hears-exynos-community-documentation-concerns

Sure doesn't make it way better, at least not till there is the documentation released, let's see when and if it will be released.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Does smart update actually work? I'm pretty sure I'm still downloading the whole app again.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Anyone coming over to the SIII camp? Let me tempt you...

m.techradar.com/news/phone-and-comm...es-in-the-world-today-645440?attr=all&src=rss

The one thing I was glad to see is the iPhone 5 ranked where it belongs (not in the first place) and android trading the majority among the entire listing.

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
Is moved over to the s2 camp ;)

Waiting until next year before a upgrade again tho

Powered by CM 9 Latest Nightly with Siyah
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Samusung, pulling there regular crap - http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-4-amoled-1ghz-dual-core-cpu-and-android-4-1/

When I read SGSIII Mini, I thought this would be a Quad core marvel like the former, but with a smaller qHD screen. This is just crappy, a dual core with device WVGA resolution. Samsung ruined the name :(
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Samsung is really abusing the "Galaxy" branding to the point of ridiculousness. And HTC is following closely with the Desire tag (seen the recent spate of phones by the latter?)

Man, these companies need to hire better marketing people. Can't come up with creative names worth two cents! I could personally come up with better model names if I was asked (read: paid) to... :p

Seriously >>SGSIII Mini? WTF!:eek:
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Precisely, the Galaxy name was pretty much dead, though "Galaxy S" actually meant today till yesterday. The Desire moniker is dead too. Desire VC? WTF. Granted Apple may not have a very good spec sheet for their devices, but their marketing is genius. The iPhone is so popular now, they can get off with just naming it iPhone (without any number like iPad) and the release year would be added to them in the gadget sites, say iPhone (2013).
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
How the heck does car mode turn on? Is it available on an AOSP ROM?

I basically want calls to get auto-answered when driving.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Androdamus
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
HTC announced the next gen phone coming without any OS: Desire WC.

You can use it for months as a paperweight for example without the need to charge it even once.

Today have played with a Samsung (I think it was SG3), no offence but I hardly can call this *thing* a phone. It is fast and smooth, feels great but it is not a phone nor a tablet so what is it then :confused:. Honestly I think the manufacturers are heading to a totally wrong direction, mobile communications should be portable these days. Now I fear that I will stick with my DS until it dies, I bought it to make phonecalls not watching movies and it does the job well

Nothing personal to anyone, sorry if I offended somebody

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
I like the direction they take i must confess, but for your usage sure, it's an overkill, but a smartphone isn't meant to be just a phone anymore. If it goes on that way, it won't take long till smartphones and tablets will replace conventional pcs and laptops and i like the thought. No need for a tower, just plug to pc with mhl, keyboard and mouse (or even better a motion tracking device like leap) over Bluetooth and maybe an external hard disk with usb otg and your good to go and you still have everything with you while your not at home. If it's powerful enough i won't even think about it a second and replace my laptop.

I really hope canonical gets the native switch from android to ubuntu when you plug it in with mhl well done, can't wait to get my hands on it.

Not even to mention the possibilities with project glass, combined with something like leap.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
No way. For me nothing beats the feel of using a desktop. There's no alternative. I've tried tablets and really can't adapt to them. My phone has reduced the amount I use my computer but can't replace it.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
I still remember when I got my Sony Ericsson K750 and it had a shortcut to a mobile store where I could buy Java games and other stuff. And I thought "why would anyone use this?"

Catching my drift?
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Hello old friend... long time no see. Seems like yesterday.... me flashing your roms zero hour on my ds and irritating you with bug reports and requests...

And i just realized how much i've been away from this forum when i saw your recog dev title... Hearty congratulations!!
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
:p I'm catching it. But I'm still a skeptic towards the whole extinction of the desktop. BTW, congrats on Recognized Developer!
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Wow, totally missed it too, finally you got what you deserved long ago :)

Congratulations :)