[EVO 4G General] egzthunder1:
Sheez, this was supposed to be a fun OT thread now... ok, few points in here...

1. 4bdnf8 was a puppy account from PyreKing...

So, if you were wondering why they were defending each other... that is why :p (and no, they were not puppies from King, which I presumed after reading the post.

2. XDA never has and never will have issues with other sites. Upper management over at RW and XDA collaborate because we all share one common goal... Their mission statement is in fact similar to XDA's and just like Papa said, you will find most work over there as well as here, unless of course the member in question swears off from xda, in which case... it is just plain childish. The entire RW vs XDA is a made up story that is baseless and untrue. We do not see RW as a competing site, period. From time to time, you will see people trying to mass herd other devs and followers to do an "exodus" to RW, AC, anddev (as in this case), etc.... The only thing that XDA does is provide a playground for devs to collaborate and interact with each other. Non devs and people with less experience will undoubtedly come along to learn (in the best case scenario) and to leech and annoy (in the worst case scenario). Unfortunately, this always happens both here and in real life as well (or aren't you the "tech wiz" around your family and friends whom later on consider you to be tech support to save $50 from going to Best Buy just to get a "geek" tell them that their PC has a virus and that they need to fork out an extra $30 to get rid of it?).

3. Moderation: This is always a hot button issue. As I told someone a while back, we have a body of roughly 150 moderators and we all have somewhat different ways of moderating. It isn't a matter of being power hungry overlords, but rather than some people are simply harsher than others when shelling out punishment for rule breaches. I personally always like comparing this to real life scenarios... If you are speeding in the highway and get pulled over, the cop that pulled you over could potentially: a. Give you a ticket; b. Reduce your "recorded" speed so that the fine is not that heavy/no points added to your license; c. Let you off with a warning; d. Throw your ass in jail and revoke your license for reckless driving even if you only had a small moving violation. Moderators are the same in this case, just as stated earlier, some are harsher than others.

We are always attempting to have lines of communication open within team to avoid stepping onto someone else's toes/double action the same thing, etc. For instance, -EviL- Konceptz ban was likely a miscommunication between the mod who dealt the infraction and the one who banned you. I found the post for which you were infracted and saying that you were out of line for the comments in it would be an understatement and the infraction was indeed well deserved. Ban you for it? Unless you did something else afterwards, probably not the best course of action. My guess is that both acted at the same time/weren't aware that the other was acting, and as stated earlier, one was harsher than the other.... All in all, sorry for the trouble and the ban, but at least the infraction was indeed well deserved, I will be honest with you.

4. Mikechannon does not own XDA.... :p He is the site admin but admin =/= owner. Also, US$2.5M/month in ad revenue.... Holy crap!!! Where? I want some of that!!! Hell, I will quit my day job and become rich from sitting on my behind :p... In all seriousness, the site has a ton of monthly costs to cover, and believe me that the site (and I don't manage the finances of it) can barely pay the costs to run.

5. The chad.goodman issue is one that is still driving the entire moderation team upside down as there are tons of conflicting views on how to handle such a case. I am personally looking into it to see if there is anything to be done at all. Virus is a different story altogether. Even if he has Infected, he has not left xda, but rather is busy with real life.

Well, that about sums it up. I hope I could clear a few points here. Also, big shout to all who mentioned my name with a positive remark following :)

Now, can we take this back to talking about Papa riding that bear?