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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thekayman:
Hey Sam,

Is there any disadvantage to unlocking and installing a custom rom vs downgrading and rooting then upgrading?

or does the voodoo rootkeeper not unlock the device so warranty still intact?

Thanks

K
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fcortes626:
to downgrade do you need to unlock?:eek:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lil-devil:
can you even downgrade with asus blob?

i thought it'll just tell you, you have the latest firmware and can't excute the firmware(.15) you want it to do

correct me if i'm wrong, =D

please tell me that i'm wrong as i needed to send my tab to RMA :(

so no more root ;-;
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n8mack33:
My understanding is you can't downgrade the firmware without unlocking. So for those of us who are on .21 who want root without unlocking it isn't currently possible. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] techiesam:
No need to unlock

You just need to download .15 firmware and rename it as .21 and put in on sdcard

follow this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1492887

One downloaded root and keep root using voodoo rootkeepr...do not unlock

and dont try this method on unlocked prime, it will brick
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] svladimir:
From the post you're referring to:

Requirements: root access

Sorry but don't think your method's gonna work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n8mack33:
Correct, and this is confirmed by several users in that thread as well. Still need to wait for another way to root .21.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thekayman:
So if I have a new prime and it has .15 and I want root I should do using Viper and then install rootkeeper and then update to .21 ?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
YES make sure you use rootkeeper BEFORE updating to .21 though that is what people seem to forget
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thekayman:
Thanks for the quick reply, so If I want to unroot I can use Viper too and will i be back to stock if I wanted to return? and I saw in the viper post about recovery is that reversible if I do a firmware reset?

EDIT: just worked out you can only install CWM after unlocking so I'm not going to that stage just yet and once unlocked there is no going back so makes the recovery restore question obsolete.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cragains:
No patience?? theres only one way

Whats the big deal about unlocking....

If you want your device rooted, unlock...install cwm.....flash prerooted rom....

Why so many people trying strange methods, i dont understand.

You would rather risk BRICKing your device trying to bypass the UNLOCK??

I just thinks people are odd, why not just unlock to get a root.....

or

WAIT till a root method is developed for .21....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
Not everyone wants to unlock.. perfectly fine here using stock rom instead of hacked roms keep in mind if you do unlock instead of wait for a new exploit you WILL lose the ability to OTA (so then theres no need for rootkeeper obviously), so all your future updates youll have to do yourself thru CWM, not to mention your warranty
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pileot:
actually i dont think this is true, to downgrade you need root access... you have to run console as SU and enter some commands, unless you know a way to do it without root in which case PLEASE share!

Also, OP couldnt you find that theres no root yet just by hitting the search button? Seriously, once theres a root for .21 it will be posted everywhere...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cragains:
No need for that, if you read the thread, YOU WOULD KNOW

he has already been warned by a mod.....

No need to bash him any more....

Why dont you post something useful.

The OP has already unlocked his Prime, I am helping him to get a prerooted rom on it.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] malaeus:
if you choose to unlock, and you are already on .21 firmware. once you push the recovery, flash the PrimEval ROM .21 ROOT (US or WW) it is a packaged OTA with root. DO NOT WIPE if you use this rom, you can actually just "upgrade" to rooted .21 without modifying anything else. but ONLY with the PRIMEVAL rom.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cragains:
If i'm not mistaken, once your unlocked you can flash any ROOTED ROM....

I guess your mentioning that ROM because you can keep any data/information/cache you have accrued on a stock unlocked Prime???

However,

From what I've read, it is best to erase everything with CWM before you flash, as this is what causes the majority of peoples issues, SOD's, etc..etc..

of coarse, I haven't any real world experience with these issues, cause I wipe EVERYTHING before I flash a new ROM...

Kernels's on the other hand seem to require no erasing

I could be WAY OFF, if so please correct me :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] malaeus:
yes you can flash any ROM you want through CWM after unlocking, and on any other ROM you would be entirely correct.

ive dealt with having to "paranoid" wipe (wipe system, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, wipe system, wipe battery, wipe system) on my G1, HD2, and GSII.

and if i didnt, everything would crash and SOD so much i wanted to break the phone.

but from what is noted on the PrimEval page, and from what i experienced in flashing this for the Prime...

is that it essentially treats it as a normal .21 OTA but with root.

if you are on .21 firmware, and you flash the .21 root package.

it will only root your existing firmware, as it doesn't seem to replace any file that is identical. (flash took less than 3 seconds)

again, i am not a developer. so its equally possible that i just got lucky, and all of this is wrong lol.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ashwm:
Did it really work? Why is nobody looking into this method?

Just got my Prime, and it's already on .21

If this works it would be great! I don't need custom roms now, just want root.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n8mack33:
He said he unlocked. Root is not an issue if you're unlocked. It is those of us who are on .21 and don't want to unlock that are stuck. Viperboy said in his root thread today that he wouldn't be surprised if a root method is never released for .21+ because there is an unlock tool now. Makes sense. Devs don't want to burn an exploit when it isn't completely necessary (arguably). So we may be better better off hoping for a way to relock and return to stock than for a new root method. Not sure what to make of all this, but I'm not going to unlock yet because I'm too worried I may need to RMA.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gage_Hero:
Just to chime in..

If you unlock, you could experience better wifi.... and get root. I did it, unlocked, loaded virtuous prime v1 .21 (prerooted) loaded motley's kernel (2.5.8) and added habanero for virtuous prime..... wifi has never worked better ...... so ya gotta decide, do I want warrenty or better wifi or should I try some half baked idea that I can downgrade and brick my tab.... Most of us have rooted an loaded custom roms on +$600 phones.. why is a tab so different? Just sayin....:D

Forgot to mention the speed increase can ya say zoom zoom???
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RonH54:
This might not be the correct Forum for this question if so I am sorry but here goes. I had Rooted my Prime when I First got it and with Root Keeper app I have been able to keep Root with .21 update. Can someone explain why being Rooted previously has allowed me to still get Root with .21 while someone that is trying to 1st time Root with .21 can't? What does .21 do that won't allow New Rooters to work but does allow previous Rooters to Keep Root with Root Keeper App?

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] acdcking12345:
Since the Clockworkmod recovery only can flash ROMS on the internal memory, where do I put them since I prefer to wipe everything out before installing a new ROM?

Wouldnt I erase the ROM file?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gage_Hero:
I don't think this is currently possible until we get a cwm recovery that will read external memory. I know I have done this on my phone before but that cwm does read external. Before you attempt this ... you best research it otherwise you might end up in a place you don't want to be....

You could go into mounts and storage and format the system but I would still check to see if anyone has tried this yet... not always a good thing to be the first through the door.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n8mack33:
The reason it is different is because on most phones (at least the ones I have rooted and loaded custom roms) you can relock and return to stock. I'm running a custom rom on my Evo but if it has an issue I can unroot and return to stock, and send it in for warranty work. Same thing with all my other phones. That is the difference to me. I'm willing to unlock and root but not if I can't go back if I ever need to.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thekayman:
This is because there was a exploit that was used to root the phone and in .21 Asus have blocked that exploit hence using rootkeeper you are basically restoring a backup of Root system files rather then rooting with the exploit.

From what I've heard if you wipe data / factory reset in RECOVERY it will wipe the system but not the rest of the internal SD card, im pretty sure that is the way to do it to keep your internal SD card contents but not 100%

I do know if you do the factory reset from within the settings menu when booted into a rom it wipes everything which is not what you want.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maatsby:
I understand that an exploit was found that has now been patched. But I'm curious to know how rootkeeper actually works? Cos I don't think that's right is it, u can't restore a backup of system files because the update in which you lose root would make the /system partition read only again wouldn't it? So how does it restore system files containing su thus regaining root without first being rooted? I might be way off here but I'm hoping there are some smart people out there who know way more about this stuff than I do that would be kind enough to explain it :) I'm just curious :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thekayman:
Yeah I see what you mean.. as in if someone is on .21 unrooted they have a backup of the rooted system files from somewhere and run an app like OTA Rootkeeper that places it using the same method that should gain root.

Makes sense but I have no idea how rootkeeper works perhaps dev's might be able to answer?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nilesf:
su-backup

rootkeepers such Voodoo Rootkeeper creates an su-backup file and stores in the /system/bin folder. I have a rooted TF201 running 9.4.2.21 but this was before the 9.4.2.21 OTA. So Voodoo Rootkeeper somehow has write access to /system/bin folder where as my other TF201 is unrooted on 9.4.2.21 but I cannot write to that folder.

If we can find a way to get Voodoo Rootkeeper to restore 'su' from the su-backup on an Removable SD card or a way to write to that folder I think we will have root.

One thing I did notice is that the bin folder is represented as a file. Possibly a zip or something.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maatsby:
this is the rootkeeper thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1241517&page=5

i had a read through it, specifically the conversation on page 5, and i think i have a vague understanding of how it works now. (i'm happy to be corrected if i'm wrong) i think the app makes an su backup, which it then makes immutable which means an OTA update can't modify it or delete it. so when the update is finished the app calls on the su-backup to become su again and you're rooted again. which basically means it won't work unless the su file is already there, it can't magically get through the protected file system to place an su file there. so there's really no way the app can be used to root from scratch
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] REAVER117:
Sorry, wrong thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Euphorian:
If i am rooted on .15 and then back up root with Rootkeeper-

Then update to .21

I should not have problems regaining root access correct?

I have read that .21 deletes root access whether you have backed up root

with Rootkeeper or not.

Is this true?

I would like to clarify...

Thx in advance!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thekayman:
If you root and backup with OTA rootkeeper you can then restore root after updating to .21, I did exactly the same thing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Euphorian:
I'm so afraid of losing root i don't want to update :o
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thekayman:
Ive done it twice (on 2 different primes) and it worked very easily... just make sure your root is backed up successfully with OTA rootkeeper, but the choice is yours.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Euphorian:
If i needed to return to stock for any reason (after .21 update) there would be no way to regain root correct?

Is there a way to take the back up file from Rootkeeper and save it?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maatsby:
New downgrade method thanks to wolf849: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1622628

Allows you to downgrade to .15 and then root as before. Just did it successfully myself :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Euphorian:
Thank you very much for the help!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jetbruceli:
I am so surprise so many people have an issue with people not wanting to unlock their devices. Being rooted and being unlocked are not in the same series of needs.

People root for control of the rom they have without worrying about losing warranty and for simple customizations

Those who unlock do it for total control of their devices and for those who are flash addicts.

I was unlocked and was doing well with flashing and using different roms each week but then my system went nuts and I sent it in.

They fixed it with no charge maybe becuase it was hardware related. But they also re locked it.

I dont know if I can unlock as some people claim they cant. But what about us who just want root?

Oh well, have fun guys bashing people for what they want to do and not for what you want them to do!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] AlpineM3:
Question and hope I don't get flamed - Unlocked bootloader via the Asus tool, on build # 9.4.2.21 and have been extremely confused with all the hoopla going around in circles to root and thankfully ran into this thread as I now know why. All because people don't want to Unlock?? (to each their own, but i'm just going to shake my head because I don't get it) Anyhow, my question is how exactly do I push recovery to my device now? And once I have, I can download any ROM (say AOKP), make a nandroid recovery, wipe data, clear cache's, format system to give me a clean slate and flash ROM and Voila?

I understand your example was for PrimEval and I thank you for the example as i'm going to give it a try, but still wanting to know about ClockWork.....was hoping to gain root and just use ROM Manager for ClockWork. Thanks a ton in advance!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] broad_st_bully:
same here...I spent about 2 days talking myself into and out of rooting my new Prime...drove myself crazy scanning threads where one says "do this and this and this" and the next thread would totally contradict what I just read in the previous post...after all the madness I decided to root by downgrading to .15 and rooting...

but like you said-I had to go through all the threads by myself...reading and reading and reading and searching...it depends I guess on how bad you want to do something or not...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] AlpineM3:
Yeah, it certainly is not easy to just jump in and do a one click root..... things are getting quite confusing because a lot of people don't want to unlock their boot loader so ish gets saturated with stupid procedures to do a work around.

Seeing that I could care less, have already unlocked boot loader and continue to read on how to install CWR, I'm stumped at the mention of a pre root ROM???? Once u have CW, all ROMs are flash able are they not?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tf201:
Check out this guide http://mark-tech.blogspot.com/2012/04/how-to-root-transformer-prime-tf201.html

It might help, the only hard part is on the reboot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skarfreak:
possible...

i think you can. thats what i did.. downgrade the firmware from .21 to .15, then root, install OTA, upgrade to .21 again, restore root.. but can't unlock the device though.. i mean i want to unlock after rooting and upgrading, but just can't... think need to do factory setting, unroot, then unlock, ...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fredgar75:
All custom roms are rooted roms. So if you have unlocked and flashed a custom recovery then all you have to do is flash a custom rom and your good to go.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 84DGR:
The only reason I want to Root as opposed to unlock and flash my own, I want to get the 3G dongle working so the Prime can be completely self contained. I have used it with my phone yet then my phone goes dead, does anyone know of a way that I can do this without rooting or unlocking, I have spent 2-3wks looking for info on the web, yet for some I cant find anyone that has done it correctly. I have read the stickies and sorry to the Admin if this is the wrong thread, i'm tearing my hair out
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jemberton:
Have you looked at getting a 3g mifi. I know they are slightly pricier but it wwould do what you're looking for it to do.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 84DGR:
yeah good point I might lok at that
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] miloj:
Rooting without unlocking nor downgrading

For information, you can root your TF201 with the method described here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27256418

It has worked for a friend owning a TF201 (.21)

Let me know how it goes for you.

milo
[GT540 Optimus Themes and Apps] flea18:
prejudice can you tell me where to find a guide to replace splash screen GT540 with
[GT540 Optimus Themes and Apps] -Grift-:
you have to modify the boot.img for that
[GT540 Optimus Themes and Apps] flea18:
can you tell me how to do it
[GT540 Optimus Themes and Apps] RomWiz:
Just replace bootanimation.zip in /system/media

Sent from a X8 using xda premium
[GT540 Optimus Themes and Apps] flea18:
no bootanimation not the splash screen on lg logo or image just put the first access
[GT540 Optimus Themes and Apps] thanhminh135:
not change
[GT540 Optimus Themes and Apps] Spoterness:
don't work here.... i am using ICS, need do anything more?
[HTC One X] majesticmerc:
Hey guys,

I know that the screens on these phones are turning out to be junk, but I'm looking for some opinions on whether my particular issue (which I don't think has been brought up here before) is a hardware problem, or if it just looks like a software bug.

I've attached a picture of the glitch, which appears as two lines of random pixels that flicker between pink and green. I've circled in red the pixels that were doing it at the time (it only seems to happen with darker colours). The picture is GTA3, but I know that it also happens in the music app and when flicking between sense themes (although it's harder to reproduce in those apps). Oddly I've played Spirit HD too, but that doesn't cause it.

So what do you guys reckon, is it more likely a hardware issue or is this something that a driver update could fix, and is anyone else having this problem?

Thanks :)

Apparently the attachment didn't work, so here's a link: img713. imageshack.us/img713/7762/phonebug.jpg (remove space after the first dot)
[HTC One X] hamdir:
enough with this FUD the screens are not junk, in fact they are amazing and made iphone owners shivers

the software has a glitch causing all sort of graphical corruption ie not the screen, glitches that goes away are software, glitches appearing in the same place in all phones are software, glitches that never manifest in certain apps are also a sign of software issue

software is no problem, no one updates their phones faster than HTC

end
[HTC One X] majesticmerc:
OK fair enough, but given the amount of people complaining about screen flex issues and the like, surely I can be forgiven for thinking otherwise?

I raised the topic because this doesn't seem like the "software issues" that everyone is talking about though (the ones with flickering status bar etc).

Thanks for your input :)
[HTC One X] combat goofwing:
I have had no issue for 4 days and noe all of a sudden I'm getting a red box outline all the way around the screen when selecting options in some menus very random
[HTC One X] hello00:
root, install a custom rom, problems solved.
[HTC One X] mikep1993:
A red box around the whole screen? I think that's caused by the keyboard. I never experienced this on my phone because i use swype but i see it very often if i use the emulator. try a different keyboard. perhaps this fixes your issue.
[HTC One X] zerozoneice:
i think that's a debug option in developer settings...indicates whenever menu speed is above a certain threshold afaik...i might be wrong though.

disable "Strict mode", reboot, wipe cache & dalvik for the hell of it...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shopsdesire:
Help needed in chichester uk. I have samsung s2 its rooted and I tryed to change roms but rom manger has losst my recovery menu. Problem is I dont have alaptop which makes it i,possible. I do not know anyone around here who can root phones. I have money,please help me.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hemanth97:
How to unroot HTC explorer ?? I tried of RUU update but it did not work and also HTC supertool and i also dont have the backup of the stock rom ... Soo how do I unroot now ?? PLEASE HELP..!!!!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] karanrajpal14:
Even i want to do this, can someone please help us?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1newbie:
try unlockroot

www.unlockroot.com

gud luck
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Utkarsh.bhatt12:
Ha.. It's pretty simple, dude try out Google.

Here are the top results:

http://tutznet.com/unroot-htc-explorer-mobile-phone.html

http://theunlockr.com/2012/07/27/how-to-unroot-htc-explorer-smartphone/
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alunduyn:
Hey guys I made something bad to my legend. Now I have to flash .img files throught fastboot, but I've lost my NANDroid of Stock ROM and other NANDroids are not signed and I can't flash them. I can't S-OFF ( I can't turn on the phone, it bootloops, and I can't mount SDcard in clockwork recovery ). I already chosed DISABLE SIGNATURE VERIFICATION in clockworkmod. I still can't flash other NANDroid's .img. So, could anyone upload his NANDroid of official HTC's ROM for Legend? Thanks a lot... I like my legend and I want it back!
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stevemotto:
Sorry can't help ya here... Try Googling it, the file might pop out. But if all's lost factory reset?
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alunduyn:
Well, now I have a stock ROM "running". WiFi doesn't initialize ( Error ), if I start it with MicroSD in it just Bootloops at the "y" of "Quietly Brilliant" bootanimation and if I switch it on when not charging ( even if battery is fully charged ) my Legend just infinitely bootloops at the green htc logo just before the bootanimation. Also, can't mount SDcard in Clockwork recovery.

I already googled it, without results. Nobody needs a system.img backup and similar things. If there is one on the web, it is too hidden and I haven't enought time.

Thanks for trying. My Legend is so grateful to you :)
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psyionx:
have you tried digging in the RUU files? i think the stuff you need is in side the rom.zip where we rename this rom.zip to LEGEIMG.zip and leave it at the root of a gold card to downgrade thinggy. extract it you have lots of .img... this files can be found from this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=725430 you can look for the other tho...

i dont remember we can just flash .img to our legend without s-off or security-off in fastboot.

if you cant mount your sd-card you can use a card reader.

but since you can go in to CWM with fake flash or you have change your recovery. why not use another card to flash. who knows you have a bad card?