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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ShelW:
demandarin

First, thanks for the detailed, in depth review of the GPS dongle! It sounds very promising, and for those who require GPS for navigation or other functions, this sounds like it now gives the Transformer Prime GPS service on par or better then the competition!

I'd also like to say that it's very gratifying to see that Asus didn't simply "remove" GPS from their spec sheets for the Prime, but continued to try and find a workable solution to an ongoing problem.

While I don't personally see myself using my TP for navigation in the car, it is gratifying to see a company that doesn't leave their customers in the lurch after they've made a substantial purchase!

Thank You!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
No, I haven't encountered any issues with it at all. It has been working perfectly. Off course when not in use, I just detach it. I don't really think there are any negative impacts on functionality. Maybe except for it can't be docked to keyboard while GPS dongle is attached. Or that it doesn't have a pass through to allow charging at the same time. But in my use, its barely sipping the battery. No excessive battery drain at all while in use. So best thing would be to detach it while its not in use. When its attached, it doesn't get in the way at all when using the tablet. whether you have GPS facing up or down. Of course facing up will yells best GPS results. Either way, its not in the way at all or adds any extra bulk or whatever to tablet. we have have some talking about Modding the free dongle to work on keyboard also. which is possible because of you look at close up pic of connector, it seems to be held in there by only 2 screws. so you could easily remove it and fabricate a solution to work while docked also if you choose.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
I have not received any update on my Prime.

I changed from DE to WW rooting it long time ago and I do not receive OTA anymore. How can I receive this now?

The PDF link to FTP Asus does not work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
Your link to the manual is broken.

It is ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/EeePAD/TF201/E7282_TF201_GPS_Extension_Kit_QSG_English.pdf
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CBers:
I'm glad ASUS came up with a fix, but the fix doesn't allow you to use the dongle and the keyboard attached, or dongle and charge.

I know this has all been said before on other forums, but when you spend £500 on a device that includes a keyboard dock, you shouldn't have to expect an add-on to negates the keyboards use.

A good interim solution, but hopefully ASUS will come up with a better solution, or allow us to trade in our Primes against the TF700.

Thanks for the great post though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slef2003:
Is it worth mentioning for those peeps who do not use the dock that there are two rubber bungs that protect the locking mechanism catches on the tablet itself. and these need to be removed before fitting the dongle!! (not that anybody has ever tried to dock with the bungs in lol)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] copc:
Would also be nice if Dongle had a power plug on it so you could have it plugged into power with Dongle attached...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
thanks, I fixed it in the OP.

thanks for the reminder. I added it to the OP.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
Now ASUS just needs to release a pass-through/extension cable that will allow the Prime to be charged while using the dongle and/or use it with the dock. :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] houtx2:
+1
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
This to me is the solution. We didn't have to pay for it so nothing is coming out of our pockets. It's not a big deal that we can't plug in our docks or be able to charge it while dongle is attached. As for me if I'm using GPS out on the road. I don't use my keyboard dock since all I'm using it for is the Navigation. I won't need to have it plugged in since it doesn't drain battery and putting in power save saves even more. Just be content and happy that Asus is doing this for us. You can't say that for the rest of them and I understand how you feel about it. But the past is in the past can't change it. I'm moving forward knowing that I'm satisfied with my prime dongle and all:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
TF201 GPS Extension Kit Specifications

Dimension L 180mm x W 13.12mm x H 22.77mm

Looks like I was bang on with size estimate.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
Using navigation doesn't drain your battery?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
First hating Post!!

Just thought I'd post the first hate posting on this...I HATE your wallpaper man!(joking)

Waiting for someone to ask you to make a video of you driving with the Dongle attached to the Prime or they wont believe that it works. lmao!! ;)

Wait for it, wait for it....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
I think it would be a good idea to mod the dongle into some dash adapter. Then just slide it in when you get into car, etc.

From the pics, it looks pretty strong.

Wonder how quick we will see the insides of this thing? :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
it barely drained power while it was in use. Asus already pushed the firmware support and power management for it last week. Prime, with dongle attached, should have no issue lasting a very long trip while navigating. Especially in battery savings mode. what will determine more how fast your battery drains will be your brightness settings on display.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Yep, I don't see the need to use the keyboard while navigating with the Prime in the car.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
It might be showing lower because image is coming from photobucket..ill upload the actual wallpaper as an attachment here in a second. Ill edit this post and add it.

edit: wallpaper in resolution I said is attached to this post.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] J-Hop2o6:
Yea, he's from NG3.

Thx, will DL now.

Odd. The picture is not loading.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dude2k5:
So, if anyone is interested I opened up the GPS dongle. http://imgur.com/a/Z89vg

edit: also, does not work on the dock :/

but here's how it looks on the prime without the whole thing. Maybe someone can make something smaller to fit....

http://i.imgur.com/5uWcs.jpg
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flyingwolf:
If I am not mistaken it is showing V2, so they have been working on it for a bit.

They have to make it larger so that it locks in, but that means there is plenty of room for a wifi add in as well, it also means it may be possible to make it into a pass through from the dock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Two Dogs:
Awesome post ans very imformative and the pictures were a bonus.

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Here's something I haven't even thought of trying. Viewing the Super IPS+ wit sunglasses. I bet if we do successfully mod the GPS dongle to allow charging as well, this thing is going to make the most comfortable GPS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Danny-B-:
Cheers for the pictures. Didnt think there would be much to it.

It deffo looks like we'll be able to make a passthrough, plenty of space in there too.

Do you have the keyboard dock ? if so can you test it plugged into the dock ?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Thanks for the pics...appreciate it. That's alot more going on in there than I thought. Anything else you noticed that might hint that its more than just a GPS module? Can you see who manufactured it(to compare to the one inside the prime).

I know Erusman thread would love these pix posted in that thread.

Any ideas as to why it won't work with the dock? Maybe the software Asus added fornits support on looks at the prime 40pin port for the dongle. I'm sire developers could reroute or actually add another path for the software to take when looking for the dongle.

Ill add those pix to OP so they won't get lost in the threads...ill give you credit for the pix and opening it up.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I didn't even see that lol.

Anyway, there in the quote it says it doesn't work in the keyboard, but that surprisingly doesn't surprise me. I'm sure the docks port isn't wired identically to the Prime's apart from power and whatever USB uses. Dongle or keyboard probably require rewiring, but I'm not about to guess with 40 pins to arrange.

Wonder which pins the GPS dongle makes use of compared to the keyboard's Prime port.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] houtx2:
By chance, does anyone know where these are shipping from (US)?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Danny-B-:
Lol i dunno how i missed the whole edit: also, does not work on the dock :/

... i even quoted the comment ...

Oops :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Pix of it being opened up added to OP and title update. Thanks again dude2k5. I ran out of thanks but will give you some once they reset. I gave you credit for pix also in op. New pix are at the bottom of OP.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dude2k5:
Thank you sir. I'll check it out again when I get home, im at work right now. I'll see if I can get some closer pics of the chips themselves.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
Cool! And thanks!

But it seems there is a lot of wasted space. It could have been a lot smaller and slimmer. Maybe someone can reverse engineer the PCB :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] brownrt:
caR dOCK?

I can't be the only one tinking about finding the pinouts for charging and USB and using the dongle as an in car entertainment piece. I have gone through 2 primes, the first i Squaredtraded after dropping and cracking the screen. I have them both registered w/ ASUS and the site let me order a dongle for each.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flyingwolf:
My plan is to figure out the pinouts for this and for charging, create a cord and docking station for my car, then I can just drop this into the dock, lock it into place and the GP (now routed to a nice spot under a concealed plastic part of my truck) has a great sky view in all directions.

Then I can charge directly from the trucks power (13.8 volts) and have GPS and a nice large screen with entertainment.

Then as soon as we can get overskreen working on here we can do windowed mode for skype, messenger, gps and audio controls.

Hmm, I wonder if you can output audio on the 40 pin connector...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
From to TF101 pinout experiments, it seems it does have audio out. 2 channels actually, 1 plays out both, other the tablet is mute and only audio thru docking port.

Update:

Good thing ASUS are being very explicit about the device not changing your warranty in any way. I guess this means we can do what ever we want with the dongle without voiding our warranty :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BethyM:
+1 for sarcasm ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] houtx2:
Just checked the vip page, mine now shows:

The GPS extension kit has been shipped

Yea!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flyingwolf:
Hmm, time to get down to business, I have 2 dongles coming, a steady hand a experience soldering fine stranded wires. This should be fun!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jersey732:
Just received it woot
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clockwork58:
me too. had my prime with me and got 3 sat's in the 1 minute indoors i had to test. normally i would get 0.

will try again more later.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mario_1603:
when did you make the application?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Of course there's generally no need! But if we just needed and never wanted, I would be a very bored man with no awesome gadgets lol

I plan to mount the Prime, keyboard and all, just so I don't have to go docking/undocking all the time (apart from the entire unit and the stand). Just move from using it in my home to the the vehicle seamlessly, just slide it in and have power from the vehicle (and perhaps after some h/w or s/w modding, automatically improved GPS :D). Plus, I hate using just touchscreens anyway, so when not in traffic I have full functionality and a great, quick way to find whatever info I need (thank you tethering lol) on the go.

Same thing for using a 10.1" tablet for navigation at all, no one sees a need and knocks it as irrelevant or too much all the time. Doesn't mean it isn't useful, awesome, or the possible future standard: just means you're not willing to see it as such. But, you are of course just saying what's best for you, so I'm glad you're getting your needs (and wants! ;)) from the dongle. A rare few of us are still left out in the cold, but we're the few likely to mod even if the Prime had come in perfectly and as advertised lol

*EDIT:

Lol, I'm just submitted :mad: Looks like I'll be waiting a while. I spaced it and registered a day late :/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I hear you. Me myself I have never used any of my tablets as a gps device, honestly speaking is there really a need for one in tablets at all?? I figure that Apple (bad name to use here, I know) thought the same, this is why the wifi models come with AGPS only. In all honesty, i would bet that more than half of the people complaining about gps will probably barely use the dongle after a few weeks. My tab is just for games, movies, music and some work. If I need Google maps and GPS, that's what my phone is for
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] babymatteo:
status of mine says: shipped!

Can't wait to get mine. My application date was 4/17.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
what am I going to do with my protective sleeve if i'm going to use GPS on my Prime? surely it won't fit with it on.... :confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
It's just the screen-size and view-ability. I have to zone in on my 3.7" phone, and then actually using it is a nuisance because I'm a larger person, my fingers easily get in the way of seeing relevant info. Not so with the Prime, can get everything easily at a glance and work it without losing sight of the important information. Then there's the Super IPS+ so your info is easy to see even with sunglasses (hopefully, I'll be testing this as I've just thought of it today).

My phone is straight up telecommunications and a portable hot-spot for data (including GPS to the Prime ATM lol). I keep mostly all the same apps across the board, but honestly my phone is just a phone for me; that's what I get for a smaller year old phone though, I'm sure my tune would change if I picked up one of those HTC One X's or something :D

It's just easier to see and focus on. I've seen some older posters saying just this, they're using tablets as GPS devices because of eyesight and ease-of-use.

Besides, then when I get pulled over the cop can do a double-take at my superior mobile work station lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yatyas:
WTH I applied on 4/16 and mine still just says submitted.

*EDIT* Ok so I think it is because I have a champagne prime. Has anyone received a champagne dongle yet?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I have been telling my wife about the Prime's GPS issues. Her first comment was like, "what the heck do you need GPS on a tablet for" lol. We have a dedicated GPS device in the car, so I would only use the Prime for movie viewing while traveling. My wife absolutely loves my Prime, especially with the dock. She has the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and besides picking the Galaxy's color display over the Primes(Amoled=over saturated colors) She definitely prefers the Prime's look, thinness, weight and built quality. I appreciate the effort by Asus, but i really don't think i will be using the dongle, I would rather use AGPS and keep my keyboard connected instead.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techienana:
Re the sunglasses and the screen - that would be a definite yes. I use my tablet in our vehicle all the time and on bright days I have to wear my sunglasses due to being a little sensitive to bright light. The screen looks great on Super and on not so bright days I can even use it on regular IPS.

And ditto on what Buxtahuda said about the older ones (that'd be me!) finding the screen size to be a real plus when using GPS. I usually ride in the front passenger seat and get to guide my husband and he likes getting a quick look at the map but on our cellphones, even my nice Samsung Galaxy S II, he can't see the map So bigger is better for older eyes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flyingwolf:
Thank you Nancy in marketing. I just received both of mine.

For those wondering, came via FedEx, shipped on the 17th.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Eoin247:
I applied for the dongle, but i only did so because i can and it's free.

Really am not interested much in GPS, Would much rather proper WiFi on this thing. The mind boggles as to why they are addressing a removed spec before a spec that is actually still with the product.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 7786:
I ordered on 4/6 when the application went up prematurely, and my status is still at "application submitted ". Champagne prime here.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
I'm looking forward to a good ROM with Cornerstone so I can have one window with navigation, one with Trapster, and another with Slacker or Pandora.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] David522d:
That would be dope.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
There already is a good rom with cornerstone
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
the new Ipad wifi model doesn't even have AGPS. it only has wifi and digital compass for its location services. I posted the screenshot of the official apple spec in another thread or something a week or ago.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mick3444:
I just got mine in the mail!!! I applied on tuesday and have already recieved it. Great Job on the fast shipping asus!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
OK...this is for the people that asked for the wallpapers used in my photos from this thread and Land of Droid. I've attached a zip file with those wallpapers and some others for you all. all of them high resolution pics.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
Anyone in the UK got shipped yet ?

I ordered 16th & still saying being processed yet plenty others here saying ordered 17th & theirs saying shipped .America & Canada first I guess
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
that was fast..lol. I did mines back when the application opened up for the one day a couple weeks back. still haven't received it yet. probably will come tomorrow. I'm not too pressed about it since I have an engineering sample one already ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kman79:
Same boat as you are, still waiting.

For those already receiving them, is it being shipped via USPS/UPS/FedEx? UPS delivery sucks in our neighborhood
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
Are you talking about the one where the developer said they aren't going to support it, they wouldn't use it as a daily driver, and they know it's going to have a lot of issues? Is that the good ROM? ;-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
fed ex is what Ive seen posted by people. Asus used fed ex to ship the engineering sample to me also. it seems to be their preferred package carrier.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dude2k5:
Well the metal parts seem to be soldered on, so I don't want to pry them off. Maybe the guy who is getting two can pry them off to see what's under them. But on the front I tried to get a closer picture

http://imgur.com/a/rISAf

edit: found this http://i.imgur.com/SFwoC.png which goes here if you google search the name http://www.azurewave.com/Product_1.asp which has GPS-M19 http://www.azurewave.com/product_GPS-M19_1.asp, M22 is the next maybe?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mick3444:
I can confirm that they are being shipped through fedex
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
So the M22 I'm this dongle is a more powerful/upgrade of the one you linked. I tried to find the FCC report earlier on this dongle but couldn't. Ill try this new info and see if anything shows up. But its looking like this dongle unit is alot more powerful/sensitive than internal GPS chip.

Anyone remwber the chip from inside the prime, I know there's pics floating in this forum on it. We can compare them.

Edit:from looking at their product page at other modules, Asus could've added a new wifi module to this dongle also. Not sure if it could stay the same size but it was possible. I can't find a M22 model. This might be something they custom made for asus. We need to find FCC report on this dongle and that will tell us alot more about it. Who will find it first? Lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Prime dongle is the M22 variant. Which is probably a new upgrade or custom unit made for Asus by Azurewave.

So our M22 should have all these same specs and probably more. More sensitive likely or something. This is the M19 model dude2k5 linked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Can someone on a PC translate this page with Google translate. Its not loading up right on the prime. I found this link that might be some kind of approval for the m22 model. Its dated 3/30/2012...might has useful info on this model

http://rra.go.kr/approval/status/icrs_view.jsp?app_no=201215701000049315 or this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...p5W8BA&usg=AFQjCNG6of9ESc3TryNOAG9ov-zOemLkmQ

Edit: this is the only info I could pull on the prime using Google translate

CERTIFICATION SEARCH

AZUREWAVE TECHNOLOGIES INC

GPS Extension Kit TF201

GPS Extension Kit

KCC-REM-TLZ-GPS-M22

AZUREWAVE TECHNOLOGIES INC /Taiwan

2012-03-30
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kman79:
Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I ordered 4.6.12 & mine just shows "submitted".... I have Champagne ... WTF
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] samster93:
I also have champagne but mine shows up as " Your application is currently being processed"

Skickat från min Transformer Prime TF201 via Tapatalk 2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
The FCC only cares about transmitters. The dongle is receive only.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kaixis:
Do you actually live in Italy?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flyingwolf:
This is not true.

All communications devices are seen by the FCC.

This includes pure receivers only, for instance both my Police Scanner and my AirTAC radio are FCC approved.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ylexot:
Ok, I was partially incorrect. The FCC does not care about GPS receivers.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Hey demandarin......

can you bend the ear of Gary and suggest to him it is now time to have the engineers put the GPS on/off switch back into the Quick Settings menu. All of the images and such are still in the system files, but they disabled it. Nicely suggest with this dongle, it is now time to put it back so we can quickly turn the GPS on/off with 1 quick click.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
that's a great idea. I gotcha ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wa3pnt:
Who will be the first person to put a USB Port in the GPS Dongle?????

It looks like there is room.

George
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] craigacgomez:
I hope I haven't missed out another post with the same question (but I'm kinda buzzed!!)... did anyone try the on custom AOSP ROMs with the .21/.21-based kernels?? mine's on the way but I curious...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyarborough:
I'm going to
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Unless the dev's edited the bit out not knowing what it was for yet, it should work. And I highly doubt they did.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] excelx:
I use Power Control Widget... wifi/bluetooth/gps/sync/brightness =] 1 click quick.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Good idea to hold people over till Asus reactivates the original GPS toggle again from Asus quick settings.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Damn, bandwidth exceeded on photobucket. They'll be back up once it resets. Sorry..lol.