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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TheWerewolf:
Thing is, unless you want to use your USB GPS with the dock, you'll end up having to hang the USB dongle on the Prime, then the GPS in that - which is a pretty shaky chain of devices.

Personally, I'd go with something like a QStarz BT-1000X BT GPS and software like "Bluetooth GPS":

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDUwMSwiZ29vZ29vLmFuZHJvaWQuYnRncHMiXQ..

That's the setup I'm using since my Prime's GPS is pretty much dead.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Saw a photo today of both colored dongles... so serial number should allow them to send the proper color.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] J-Hop2o6:
@demandarin May I have a copy of your tablet wallpaper? Looks bad ass.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TheWerewolf:
Actually, there is one way it could be... although it would have been pretty weird if they tried this. There's been several hacks where someone's opened a Prime and just placed a wire on the inside leading to a longer wire on the outside and the radio signal that manages to get inside was enough to dramatically improve the internal GPS.

So in theory, the dongle could just be a tuned antenna that's flooding the inside of the Prime with the radio signal over one or more of the spare pins on the dock.

But that would be a pretty amazing hack - I wouldn't try it. Just building an external GPS clip on module would be vastly more reliable, although it would suck up some of the battery life (although turning off the internal one would compensate to some degree).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Make it happen & post up your results.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mrmark93:
Well just to poke the bear, I thought I'd throw an observation in there.

One of the unique features of the Prime's OE GPS spec. was the addition of reception of the Russian Glonass GPS satellites. Only a few devices have these receivers. the Prime being one of them. In all the previous testing (before 'dongle'), you'd see satellite #'s up to ~34, those would be U.S. GPS satellites. You'd also see #'s in the 60's 70's and 80's (IIRC); these are the Glonass Satellites. Looking at Demandarin's test pictures, all the satellite #'s are in the 34 and below category; meaning a standard U.S. GPS reception chip is in the dongle.

I've used GPS a LOT, and even with a sensitive receiver, there are weather patterns, solar issues, etc that can mess with the GPS; so having an extra 24 satellites to receive from could make a measurable difference on a 'bad' day. Is this all splitting hairs? Probably, but this dongle doesn't complete the OE spec outlined, and I'm probably only 1 in a million that even noticed that bit in the first place. This dongle goes a long way towards fixing one of the issues that was known and ignored in the rush to production... If I were them, I'd have put a wi-fi receiver in the thing as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>these are the Glonass Satellites

I just checked frequencies for Glonass, and the L1 (standard precision) freq is only slightly different than American GPS freq, ie both use the same antenna. From what you said, it would be better to use an external active antenna for the built-in GPS, rather than the dongle. The connector wouldn't too obstrusive, as most active GPS antenna dongles use MCX connector which is fairly low-profile, but I've no idea on how to provide power to the ant's amp. Would be something interesting to look into.

As it is, the Asus dongle should be more than good enough for most people. The downsides of course are the added bulk, and loss of charging when in use. If the built-in GPS functions as you said, I think an active antenna mod would be a more functional and effective alternative, but would be limited to modders.

Edit: A quick search for "gps active antenna mod" nets strangely enough an Engadget how-to article back in 2006. I suppose it was a more techie site back in the day. The keyword here is "power injector" to pump out 5V@5mA to the antenna, and act as a high/low-pass filter. It's old, but still applicable.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/28/how-to-add-your-own-external-gps-antenna/

http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/extant2.txt

Disclaimer: This is from an off-the-cuff look. If you are going to try this on a $500 toy, suggest due diligence.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jesse6749:
So I filled out the application yesterday, will I just get the dongle in 2 weeks or will they be calling me too. They do have my home and cell phone numbers on file already, since I have been a long time customer (Almost 12 years buying from them already)??

I can't wait to get it and see how well it works on my modded prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Graffin:
Why can't we connect this in the 40 pin side connector of the dock?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mdemons12:
Actually looks like a pretty sturdy attachment and when used in portrait mode could be nice to hole onto.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
It's shaped wrong.

Or if you are asking why they didn't design it for the dock, the answer is "Because not everyone has one".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Danny-B-:
Looking at the pictures, i'm just wondering whey they put the screws on the upper side and not on the other side.

Surely it would look better without the screws on the top side?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lineager:
WIFI performance?

I would appreciate if OP could test the WIFI performance w/ and w/o the dongle.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] astralmind:
+1
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think they only called people initially who filled out the form before yesterday. if you filled it yesterday, you should be good. from what they said, we should either receive them in 2 weeks from the 16th. or they will ship out then.

once the dongle is attached and locked up there, it is pretty sturdy. I was surprised how there was no play in movement at all once locked. it doesn't budge at all.

that's what I was thinking. I could be wrong though but they have their reasons obviously. I think if you uncrew it from the plastic, then it could be attached to the dock. Of course it might be best to Fab. some kind of housing for it, for protection.

I wondered the exact same thing. I'm not sure as to why they did it like that. could the screws act like an antennae or something? or somehow help with the signal. just throwing that out there.

I will as I've been getting alot of questions on that. ill do it like you said along with GPS dongle activated(from cutting on GPS in settings while its attached) and just the GPS dongle attached and not activating it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
So, I've been watching you and this GPS dongle thread for a while. I'm absolutely happy with the dongle stuff, I think it was awesome of Asus not to deny the problem but giving an accaptable and free solution. But one question still reminds in my head:

- Why would anyone use a tablet as a GPS device??? :D

Sorry, but a phone just seems to be so much more capable of this. Please, enlighten me :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ImmanuelCunt:
Great thing! :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jesse6749:
I am going to mainly use it to search for a restaurant or store near by and mainly cause my eyesight is not that good at my age (yes I am in my 40's) and I rather look at the larger screen of the tablet than my phone. But I don't think I will use it as a navigation device, I mainly use my Acer A100 for that duty.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cherian_aiims:
Looks really great and attaches well and almost inconspicuous...when i heard gps dongle i thought of some kind of usb device...but this is really cool...

One great benefit that i can think for my personal use is...now that my device can accurately read gps...i can configure my tasker app to run a few tasks for me according to my location...

changing WiFi settings

locking my apps when i leave home

automatic mailing and you know all that amazing tasker stuff:cool:

...and as long as its free i dont mind getting it...!!! :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CBers:
That minisuit looks cool - £26 in the UK - might have to invest in one.

Although I did read a customer's comment on the Amazon (UK) site:

"If you want to use the rear camera, you have to lift up the flap as this does not have a hole, only the hard backed part of the tablet case does. An alternative is to turn the tablet around and let the flap drop under the tablet."

Is that correct ??
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
another thing to keep in mind, the one I have is an engineering sample. So the final product could easily look more polished up or slightly different.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MK17:
One advantage I see is that after you load the map you don't need internet so you can cut the wifi off. You could do the same on a phone and cut off the radio but then you couldn't receive calls.

Now you have navigation and when you get to your destination you have a phone with a good amount of battery left.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I keep between 8 and 12 on my phone, weather permitting. Still though, yes, that is damn good! Lol, but it's still going to have to be modified for me to make some real use of it.

Yeah, the one annoying thing about this case. You also have to shift the tablet around in the case or the right side of your picture will have some leather or a bad glare on it. The flap makes it extraordinarily awkward for photos, either hold it up real funny or forfeit viewing the screen as you take a picture. I just slip it out of the case when I want to take a picture, which isn't too often; my phone will usually do fine, although its flash is burnt out so it's usually a little grainy and badly lit.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Both colors
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
thanks. added it to OP
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Glad they took the effort to do both colors and didn't do something lame like black. Now let's just hope they match the serial number correctly and send us the right color :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
Actually, black is best for both, as bezel is black, and you'll always be looking at it from the front. Champagne dongle would be more obtrusive and unsightly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
Seems to be a poor alignment from the mini suit case. The lens opening on the luff-luv case appears larger and properly aligned.

compared to the mini suit

The flap doesn't bother me, I just turn the tablet upside-down the the flap hangs below the camera.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Great comparison, thanks! Yeah, I've been thinking of dremel'ing the opening a bit, but I don't want it looking all torn either, no idea how to handle the leather.

And yeah, that's totally what I'd do if mine wasn't always in the keyboard :D So when it comes time to disconnect, I'll usually just leave the case together and slide the tab out of the keyboard and case all at once. The little buttons on the minisuit are not meant to be done and undone often, my right one has started to separate the leather from whatever makes up the inside; more leather?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
lol..I don't have that issue either...i guess that's what an extra $100 for the Tuff-luv will get you..lol

but enough on cases & back on thread topic.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeJags:
That is correct.......not a major problem......but a little inconvenient......

Edit: just noticed it got answered......but have used it together and apart many times......no problem with snaps....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CBers:
Thanks, just ordered one.

As you say, I have a 5Mp camera on my phone so won't be taking that many photos, apart from perhaps, panaoramics :-)

---------- Post added at 06:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:12 PM ----------

Thanks JoeJags.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techienana:
Visual assistance, anyone?

My number one reason for wanting the GPS to work: Hubby and I both turn the big 60 this year and neither of us has good eyesight, never did and we have always worn glasses. And it won't get any better as we get older. Usually we are together and in an unfamiliar part of town when we use the GPS features on our devices and I get elected to handle the device. We like to see where we're headed, if there is a short cut, and the like, so just listening to 'Amy' isn't enough; I usually end up zooming the display and inevitably lose the marked route.

So, although I didn't buy it for the GPS and only wanted it to work cuz it was included in the specs and the price, it's turning out to be kind of nice and possibly important for this oldster.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I checked and it was confirmed again that this dongle is a "True" GPS Module extension. complete with antennae and electronics inside.

other updates coming soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand that GPS on a 10.1 inch screen is a god-send; especially for those of us with bad eye-sight and without the means or motivation for corrective surgery. Gives you more info at a glance, and it's going to be easier to manipulate without focusing full attention to the device.

I use my phone for navigation, and it's great and all, but it feels so much more dangerous having to focus in on my 3.5" phone for information than my 10.1" tablet.

Great! Thanks 'darin, can't wait to see what all can be done with it. Can't wait to try and daisy-chain it into the keyboard somehow. Would be interesting if you could replace the keyboard's hinge with plastic counterparts and place this just right inside there. I haven't looked in my keyboard though, so I don't know what kind of room we're working with in there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ssoldz:
Why use Tablet for GPS

I have poor eyesight and would like to be able to see better maps on the Tablet. Will primarily be concerned when my wife is driving or when I'm lost.

Make sense?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] babymatteo:
totally agree with you on this one lol :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Thenits:
The good old days

Erusman, you are a classic sir! I was wondering what ever happened to the serious hardware modders out there attempting to address the GPS issue? ....now you are moving on to the new dongle. Good luck!

p.s. what did happen to your original opening my prime thread? It was a great read.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bindir:
I'm trying to register my asus tfp prime 64GB with asus but both the serial number on the box that came with it and the one in about tablet -> status isn't working on their page.

the one on my box starts with BCO(can't tell if that's an O or zero) and the one in status also starts with O or zero 1d, it says both are wrong. trying all combos of O's and zeros and neither are taking. Anyone know if I can just keep trying combo's from my box or should my tablets be correct (I'm unlocked bootloader running AOKP)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
several had same problem and ended up entering the incorrect characters. you are most likely mistaking "O" for "0" or vice versa. just keep trying combo.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
The first is the letter O then the remaining are number 0s. Maybe also try it with all lower case. Remember once you mess up the first time you will have to refresh your browser. Or else it will not take in the changes you made.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Atlas7:
Hay I from Croatia and my question is...Is this dongle totally free??? I can gets for free and I dont need to pay shipping???
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] master1988:
It is completely free for us and european...

Edit 1: but only if you can register for free. Heard about some italians who didn't get one cause the prime was never annoucend with gps there. So if you can register it on vip.asus.com it is for free...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Atlas7:
I was registered for ASUS VIP Member! Thanks for informations =)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Texfra:
I tried to apply for the dongle but I don't see "Italy" in the nations' dropbox menu of the form.

Is it just me?

Thanks?

Francesco

---------- Post added at 12:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:09 PM ----------

Oh, I just saw this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1605778 and this: http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/18/asus-tp-gps-dongle-woes/

Apparently it's not an oversight :-/

Ciao,

Francesco
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] peterk-1:
When I requested the dongle I was registered and the tablet was registered and placing the order was one click and no address/country data entry required (not IT). Have you tried this route?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
not going to fully comment on this adapter until I get it but I would actually drill a hole in the rear of my Prime and attach some sort of an antenna than have a clip on which negates charging and keyboard. On my BKO, I can stand the Prime up on the keyboard (double up as stand and second battery) when using google maps/navigation. strange part is, I can't get GPS to work as tightly on Co-Pilot.

we'll see how this works out. but I have yet to send my unit to get the green camera fixed. doing it this week.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I wouldn't go to that extreme. Just mod the dongle once it arrives. Plenty of people in erusmans thread are going to. It can be modded to fit keyboard dock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Snook321:
Woah Woah Woah... If we applied for the dongle through Vip.Asus.com, how would they know what colors we have? I have the Gray one and I would be displeased if I recieved a Gold one....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MajesticTwelve:
They will know it based on your serial number.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I lol'd

In all seriousness though, some people may be in for a surprise, I remember a poster sending in a Prime for RMA and getting a 101 in return. Somehow his Prime's serial was wrong or logged wrong.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dude2k5:
Just got mine in today
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lamboboy732:
I'm jealous, hows it working?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dude2k5:
Indoors-probably better outside

Without:

http://i.imgur.com/nGWxQ.png

With:

http://i.imgur.com/cSS8o.png

edit: a few more pics of the device itself

push slowly: http://i.imgur.com/pRXPy.jpg

lock: http://i.imgur.com/8LEwq.jpg

Go!: http://i.imgur.com/sFHxX.jpg
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Let's give him some time to actually open and use it first :)

Edit, nvm..I spoke way too soon :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ickk:
Off topic, but demandarin is your avatar jack of blades from fable? Always thought it was.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Damn that was fast..lmfao did it come in a big fed ex box? Or how are they shipping it? What method?

How you liking it so far? Have you tested it out?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Im not sure. I just know it was a cool a$$ wallpaper. Here it is. I call it

MIND OVER MATTER
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
What kind of warning or info does that sticker say? Does it have Asus stamped on it? Test it outdoors and while driving and post results, if you don't mind. ;)

my final version should be here anyday now also. I will compare the engineering sample to the finished version to see if any differences in performance.

It was said that they noticed "Some" units had improved wifi performance from it but that "Wasn't" what it was designed for. I tested that theory a lil bit but couldn't tell any difference. Ill test again more thoroughly but might have more of an impact on devices that might not have as good reception. My wifi is actually pretty good so ill check again with more thorough testing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ickk:
guess not :p

jack of blades is slightly more armored with a crimson cowl and designs on the mask.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] J-Hop2o6:
Nice! Do u have a higher res version of this? But yea he's regent of the mask from ninja gaiden.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Damn, beat me to it! Lol, the Gaiden games are so good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
No but it should be 1920x1080 resolution. It looks great on prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
I would also like to know how it was shipped. I'm in a bind and I'm trying to intercept it before it goes to the wrong location.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Screwedupsmitty:
lol yea except that last one, ewwwwwww
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lamboboy732:
Tests look decent, but Asus really had to get away from these ugly stickers, that huge warning looks horrible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
That sticker is really an eye sore. What exactly does it say? Radiation warning or something?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BethyM:
"This is not a professional gps. Do not change settings while driving or get distracted by the glorious beauty of the screen and run off the road. Wear sunglasses when using SuperIPS+. It's free, you're welcome. Buckle up."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] r0ck0:
I got my dongle, looks crappy but works.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flyingwolf:
It actually says "It's free, your welcome".

Talk about a major middle finger to all of us.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think she was trying to be funny and sarcastic. Asus would be crazy to really have put that up there..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
How was it shipped?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gsmsosv:
Judging from the retail packaging, it looks like they intend to sell this after July 31 deadline has passed. Wow.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
The sticker:

Please remove the GPS Extension Kit when not in use to save power.

Please update your system software to the latest version before using the GPS Extension Kit. For the latest version, please visit

http://support.asus.com or check the software update notification in the notification area at the lower right corner on the screen.

The GPS Extension Kit was designed this big to ensure this warning sticker fits.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flyingwolf:
Zing!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
I think you are on to something, no wonder its not being released in Italy, this

Si prega di rimuovere il Extension Kit GPS quando non in uso per risparmiare energia. Si prega di aggiornare il software di sistema alla versione più recente prima di utilizzare il kit di estensione GPS. Per l'ultima versione, si prega di visitare il sito http://support.asus.com o controllare la notifica di aggiornamento software nell'area di notifica nell'angolo in basso a destra sullo schermo.

would never fit on that dongle.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] r0ck0:
Prolly by rail, truck, container ship, in a small padded manila envelope. It magically appeared in my post box.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Your funny. Let me make it more specific then. What carrier was used to send it? I am trying to intercept the package and re route it to a new location if possible. Thank you in advance:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] r0ck0:
You're right, I threw the package away.FedEx Ground
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
So you are God? You know everyone's every possible use, circumstances, and situation for the Prime? Impressive. Very impressive. Y'know, about the lottery... I've been asking about this for a long time, and never heard back from you....

Or more likely not. You're just some overblown egotistical fanboi spouting crap, as usual.

Note: You are on XDA, please try to use your brain PRIOR to posting. You'll keep yourself from looking like a complete idiot if you follow that one simple piece of advice.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] J-Hop2o6:
I saved it using the xda app. I'll try a browser and see if it makes a difference.

EDIT: negative. The picture is still 800x450 saving it via browser.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] J-Hop2o6:
I never played a ninja gaiden game, I just found out the character in the wallpaper is from that game.