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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nevyntanis:
I agree, the only thing it seems to do effectively is free up some memory. Without V6 I average around 60-70mbs free, with V6 I average around 120mb free, but ths doesnt help lag or anything like that, just give you more free ram. How does that help I wonder, I have noticed people commenting about free ram how pedantic they are about it, but if the ram is free and nothing is using it, then what exactly is the point? Does the device have hidden processes that rely on this free ram, does it work like a windows swap file, I dont understand! ( I wonder how many trolls are gonna let loose at me for this,lol :laugh:)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bombadier:
Widget apps need to be stored in the phone and not on the SD Card, check where they are installed to
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ronmq:
Both apps are installed in /mnt/asec, and the data in /data/data
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Semaphor_:
Maybe change the settings? I use the calculator settings and I usually have 40-60mb free with V6.120MB is far too high for the DZ.

I have everything optional enabled besides the bulletproof apps feature and my phone is FAR faster with it than without.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nevyntanis:
Now I am even more confused, lol, why is 120mb too high for the DZ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] K-Force:
Is there any automatic update possible?

And whats the best way to update from older Builds (103 was the last one i flashed).

What should I wipe?

thanks :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] master.peterm:
I use beautiful widgets, doesn't disappear on stock launcher

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Btw headphone volume is pretty low on this rom... one fix is this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1603327

on 105 it would break in call mic, but on 106 I'm not seeing it breaking anything...

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1. No 2. Just backup all your apps in titanium, and wipe everything, that's the optimal way, if you're lazy then dalvik and cache is fine I guess
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lbcoder:
I made bold the key part of your post. That is the most valid question possible. The answer is THERE IS NO POINT. Free RAM is WASTED RAM. Those people who devise schemes to increase the amount of free RAM (by unloading processes) are FIRST CLASS NOOBZ who havent the faintest idea about how Android works.

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The "correct" amount of free RAM to have is approximately equal to the amount of RAM consumed by ONE Android application. Somewhere in the vicinity of 5-10 MB. Free RAM is WASTED RAM. You just need enough to be able to launch the "next" application without having to wait on several other applications to be killed off.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
I rather have more then enough RAM free then just enough RAM free..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Indiwiz:
it should be.

btw if anyone is willing to wait until the weekend i'll flash the stock tmobile rom and see what i get.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nevyntanis:
:good: Thanks alot, u rock man. Now to find all those RAM post and troll them to death, lol, just kidding:angel:

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I can understand that, but the discussion is mainly if freeing up ram speeds up a device, specifically does V6 speed up a device, to me more free RAM means more apps can used at the same time, not to increase in performance ( anybody can correct me if I am wrong here!), but I also understand that if you dont have enough RAM free then the device first needs to dump a running app to start a new one, this causes lag. With this ROM my average free ram is way more than enough to do the job its supposed to, lag free without the need of a memory manager like V6. My opinion, performance comes more from display and cpu than RAM (Again pls correct me if I am wrong). Now I have a headache from all this thinking!:o
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ronmq:
Ummmm, no way, with stock launcher I still losing some widgets. I will take a look.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lbcoder:
The funny thing is that needless free RAM can actually make Android SLOWER. You see, what Android does when there is free RAM, is it preloads applications, that way if you happen to need some application, it is probably already loaded for you, being stored dormant in RAM and ready to respond instantly. If you unload all inactive processes, then every time you load an application, it has to start at the beginning and load the whole thing from storage. This is quite obviously, a much longer, slower process, than just activating a process that is already in RAM.

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If you rather it to be slow, that's your choice.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dragon-son:
I had that issue as well. My fix was to convert the apps to system apps. Now they are always there. (Well it's not there right now because I have Beautiful Widgets uninstalled.)

On the free RAM note, I would rather reload an application new, then to pull it stored from memory. I understand yes it's slower, but it tends to cause me less issues. For example sometimes apps randomly have memory leaks while running, it just happens after a while sometimes. When this happens it slows the whole phone down. So rather than have that happening, I just force kill all the apps to get more free memory. I understand the next time I run that app it will have to reload into memory, and thus take a little longer, and I'm fine with that. I would rather have it take a little longer now vs slowing down whole phone later when I'm not even using that app. So I like to have more free RAM available, because I know there is less apps running that could possibly cause issues. I usually uninstall every app I don't need/use or freeze it. On average, I have 120MB of free RAM. When I go on an app killing spree, I sometimes get to over 200MB free.(Yes even in JB) I understand this is not always ideal for most users, but it is ideal for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ronmq:
Thanks,

I will try it tonight,
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pauldacheez:
/mnt/asec is still on the SD card (it points to that .android_secure folder). Go to Settings > Apps > On SD Card and move the apps back onto the phone. (Sidenote: Keeping apps off the SD card and in internal memory prevents it from popping up that "some apps will be unavailable" message when enabling USB mass storage.)

Making the apps system apps isn't really necessary or ideal (the apps are gone when you flash a new test build), but with Jellybean's half-baked paid app encryption, it may be necessary to back the apps up with Titanium Backup, uninstall them, and reinstall the backups if just moving them back onto internal memory doesn't fix the issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nevyntanis:
That is a fair statement, I dont use many apps so I dont really ever get a RAM issue, for me V6 is pointless.

Anyway moving on, I have a question about the signal icon (not sure what its called exactly) that shows what service is avaliable ie; 3g or edge, I notice that mine is not changing colour when I am sending and recieving data. Is this because I dont have gaaps installed or something else entirely?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] synthiis:
Great job by the way. It's getting closer and closer to be a DD.

But there's something that's bothering me. I've enabled the "Show Widget before unlocking" on the lockscreen. I'm using the pattern lock style and whenever I slide to either Camera or Google now, it seems to "work" in the background while doing nothing, and the shortcut come back on. I have to slide to unlock after, do my pattern and then it brings me to the previously selected shortcut.

I looked into it but nothing really showed up. Is there something else I should do?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lbcoder:
The problem with your theory is that a preloaded application is NOT RUNNING. Its just loaded. Memory can't leak from a non-executing process.

Android applications come in two primary forms;

Services,

Activities.

Services will run in the background all the time, after all, that is their entire purpose. Services do not have user interfaces, so they cannot ever be "foreground".

Activities (programs with user interfaces) will ONLY run when they are in the foreground. As soon as you switch to a different foreground application, the last one gets stopped in its tracks.

http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html

Certain applications will have both services and activities. In this case, the activity will stop when out of foreground, and the service will continue to execute. This is typical for applications like EMAIL CLIENTS, that need to maintain connection to an IMAP server, receive notifications from it, and send a notification to the user to launch the associated activity and view the email. Obviously, for this type of application, you don't want to be killing it off, or you won't be receiving your email.

Now, a service CAN have a memory leak, which is a situation that sucks. You can't kill your services without defeating their purpose. In this case, your three options are to occasionally kill that bad service to clear the leaked memory (it should immediately restart when you have done this), uninstall it (because its defective), or let it suck up your memory.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dwardo:
No need for a stock ROM, I can give you a dmesg under Mimicry 1.5.0 where rotation works and another under b106 where it apparently it won't (haven't tested yet but I'm having the same issues as heybobitsme on the previous ROMS)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ronmq:
I tried but these apps don't appear on sd card in this menu.

In root toolbox are showed as installed on the phone too.

Enviado desde mi HTC Vision usando Tapatalk 2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dwardo:
So here you go:

* dmesg (right after end of boot) from b105 where sensors don't work

* dmesg (right after end of boot) from mimicry-1.5.0 where sensors work

I tkdiff the dmesg files and saw some memory detection differences that seemed weird... But I'll let the experts look at it in detail.

And as a bonus the hardware info given by Android Sensor on both roms... Where info is the same but you can see that sensors work in mimicry but don't in b105.

If someone with working sensors and auto-rotation in b105 could post there hardware info in Android Sensor we could put this heory to te test.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Indiwiz:
I suggested a stock ROM because it would tell exactly what brand of accelerometers, while another ROM may just gave generic drivers that could show up to be another brand. flashing mimicry may work tho.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Whoareyou:
is anyone else haveing an issue where no audio is working out of the device speaker?, the calling speaker works, but not the main speaker...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tarroyo:
Has Flinny got any help from blk_jack or is he still doing this project solo?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dragon-son:
I had that issue in 101 and 102 builds, but it was fixed in 103 build.

Seems to be working correctly in 106 build as well.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] revanmj:
I just wanted to let you know, that recent update to YouTube app removed remaining graphical glitches (those that were visible during appearing / disappearing playing controls in full screen).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dragon-son:
Had it lock up again while charging. Tried to pull the /proc/last_kmsg again and is telling me that the file doesn't exist. By the time I managed to get a dmesg it was well after the reboot. :( got busy at work so wasn't able to get it sooner. Every time I've had it lock up entirely is while charging from low battery. Trying to replicate while at home so I can get better logs for you. Running build 106 after full wipe.

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Got battery to drain to 11%, started charging and within 10 minutes it was unresponsive while charging. Take it off the charger works fine. Put it back on charger it will not respond. Pulled battery. Now shows charged to 85% after reboot. Tried pulling the /proc/last_kmsg again with adb and it says it doesn't exist still. Was able to get a dmesg of right after boot though. Hope it helps some.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] natabbotts:
Update to Google play services via market means new gapps imminent, keep your eyes open :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
Which governor/cpu frequencies are you running at?

Have been fairly busy so not got much done until today. Expect a bit of an update later once I've given it a bit of a test.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dragon-son:
Been using the ondemand governor min768MHz // max1516MHz set at boot with the deadline I/O scheduler set on boot. Set in performance options in settings. Used to use SetCPU but it was causing lag in this ROM.

Just had it lock up again before posting this, still cant pull the /proc/last_kmsg though. The last few times I've pulled battery it's been plugged into charger still, whereas before I was pulling it after it was out of the charger. Would that cause it to not create the file?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
107 uploaded.

ondemand boostpulse governor changes.

new power hal from qcom-common with extra userspace cpu boosting hints in for the CM changes.

temporary hack to get crt off to display all of the time.

CM userspace boosting hooks

Tile rendering should now be enabled again.

Synced with CM
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dragon-son:
Downloaded and installed after full wipe. Will post back if it locks up again while charging.

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Also noticed on the first screen before any setup the emergency dialer say ICQ, and in the past couple of builds it said netmeeting was it supposed to do that? Still no sound on the initial install until pressing volume up again.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Zelych:
On b107 while viewing a video captured from the camera gallery Aloud "Can not play video" then it does not take a photo camera - applications stopped working.

On clean instalation.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
Just watched some gallery video's... captured a new one.. then took a photo...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Zelych:
Video was taken in B105 or 106, length approx 4 minutes 720p. First played without problem, the problem was, and I think when you play the third video. Starting in portrait (glitches) in changing the landscape alright. and if it is not another attempt at video play, then stops working camera.

Some video in mimicry 1.5.0 to play without problems.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MarcelS:
when system was booting after flashing (build 106) led flashed one time on red (red, not orange). what does it mean?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tarroyo:
I'm not exactly sure what this means, Seeing as I never figured it out. I'm seeing flashing led on Mimicry as well so its not just the JB test builds

. . .Aside from that it doesn't seem to affect anything.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] foefur:
As far as i know the led is only capable of 2 colours: Green and Orange(amber) :p

Can anyone confirm this?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MarcelS:
As far as i know this led lights red when it is some kind of error (i dont know exactly what error, i'm just telling what i read on the net).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Zelych:
Flinny, could you please in the next version preseeding "admitted install from unknown sources" and still "turn off HW overlay" to reboot after turning on again? Thank you.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gana2k1:
I have been using gaaps from http://code.google.com/p/minicm/downloads/list for a while now.

The aug 13th gaaps definitely fixed the problem with not being able to see picasa web albums in my gallery that i used to have with the gaaps in the op.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
The first one is not a good idea, the second I did look at but requires me changing code in CM's settings app that I would rather not have to do, would rather fix the problem and if I mask it then it'll get forgotten about, at the moment you press the button and it sends a message to surfaceflinger to not use hw overlays. It doesn't even try to store your prefference.

The problem with google merging Camera and Gallery into one apk is that if you flash the gapps you mention it replaces the gallery we build with a Google Version of the gallery that yes is capable of seeing picasa web albums but doesn't include any of the fixes we had to implement for the camera for example to get rid of the green line on one of the 5mp options. That is why most jb gapps you find do not have a replacement gallery included.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mesaj:
Sorry for asking there, but I've moved to SGS2 and my bro use my Desire Z now. What's stage of this ROM? What is working, what is not, how's stability? I plan to change ILWT to this one, but want a stable and functioning ROM to not update often. ILWT was fine for 6 months, but instead version 564 I could just skip to CM10 instead.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MarcelS:
i flashed it once again and i noticed that led flashes one time on orange always when system is booting.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
editing or inputting a voicemail number in the phone/dialer settings causes the phone to freeze for some time. looks like its impossible to input a voicemail number right now

edit: it works now. but my phone gets really hot when im in a call. It gets a little hot when listening to music. is that normal?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Tmender:
If I understand this right, that means the 7-26 GApps are the latest for us then?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] natabbotts:
Official CM

Flinny, have you considered making an official CM repo, instead of our own unofficial build? It seems a sensible thing to do given that the purpose of Andromadus is to be as close to CM official as possible.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Direwolf8:
I just flashed this today, and I am very happy with how it runs. The problems it has seem to be minimal and I haven't run into anything that's seriously affected my use of it =)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] .ili.music.ili.:
These builds are stable for daily use, but there are semi-common noticeable hiccups. I don't know how I'd feel about using this rom if it wasn't being updated so frequently and becoming more and more stable.

I'd say hook him up with CM7 or GLite or MIUI. Or just keep ILWT. I never tried that.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nevyntanis:
CRT animation is working again, awesome :good:, only thing, powering off the device it shows the animation and then it flashes the lockscreen before turning the screen off.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Something I noticed today when I was playing around with a DHD. When you pull down the notification area it is semi-transparent. I don't see this in this ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
CM started with the power widgets being semi transparent then went to solid if I remember. Which ROM was running on the DHD btw?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Jellytime. It has had this since the first builds. Just wondering why it isn't in this ROM :P Gives a nicer touch to the notification area :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dan-fish:
Just to let you know, it's transparent on Andromadus for saga.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] davidrol:
Workaround for Wifi Performance when Screen is off

I have installed a script to keep screen on and keep wifi in high performance during phone calls. This works with SIP and most likely GSM calls (haven't tested). I used Root Explorer to paste userinit.sh to /System/etc/init.d set permissions to same as other files, then rebooted. This is working several hours.

I just discovered that the script needs to run at boot. ROM Manager Lite will do this for you when setup.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Zelych:
Battery life in build 107 is the best I've ever had. The ICS (Mimicry) I got to 13-16 hours in JB B107 70% after 9.5 hours of it is perfect! Just call volume in headphones I find somewhat weaker.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
I said it was a bit of a hack and a temporary work around for this reason. Basically it just inserts a pause rather than having it play then turn off the display like it should do.

Strange.... with no themes/settings changed etc?

The increased headphone volume etc was a patch applied to CM9 versions of Andromadus, the problem being it seemed to broke syncing with a new bluetooth device for me (which it shouldn't have done) One of these days I'll get round to figuring out what caused the problem. It's on the list of things to look at which seems to be getting longer not shorter!

Nick.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] IharpI:
Broken FN-Keys

My FN Keys are not working in some apps.

In SMS app for example they work, but in the browser dont.

Anyone?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nevyntanis:
Had the same problem a few days ago, rebooting fixed it for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Hold the FN key.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] natabbotts:
This is a known problem, read the thread :)

In browser, and some apps, the hardware modifier keys (fn, shift) aren't 'sticky' - this means you have to hold them down as you press other keys

e.g. for 'A', you need shift + a, not shift followed by a.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Barcallica:
Where can I see changelog ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mazdarati2:
dont know why, but i cant take photo's anymore. Gallery just stops. and i can only watch video's iwth MX player, the default one and quickpic both stopped doing that. kinda annoying.

And ive got some issues with Dead space, i can it only play it for about 10 minutes, and after that: it just stops and goes to the homescreen. after starting Dead Space again, i can play it for 2 minutes, and it stops again. after a reboot i can play Dead Space just for 10 minutes, again. and sometimes, the touchscreen is reponding like 10 second too late.

CPU is just stock Interactive at 1024mhz. and has no problems with running dead space, except a few frame drops and the mentioned problems.

i havent seen any slow downs or bugs at other games.

BTW just great ROM
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] debbox:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1605016

all from first page...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
Use 1.5GHz + OnDemand to play heavy games to prevent slow downs/frame drops. I don't know why you would play a heavy game with the G2/DZ running 1.0GHz + Interactive :eek: .. As for the FC, I'm guessing you're out of RAM and/or not enough "strength" (CPU freq too low).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
lack of transparency on notification menu etc seems to be down to vision not meeting the requirements for isHighEndGfx.... I'll see if I can override it somewhere and see how much of a differnce it makes to phone performance etc.

Nick.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Indiwiz:
i never realized the notification area was transparent on JB, i just knew that as you pulled it down the area behind it would fade to black as you pulled the bar.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mazdarati2:
well Interactive is very good actually, but i will try it. hopefully my phone wont explode
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
Interactive just tries to save a bit more battery. OnDemand is more about performance. And no, your phone won't "explode/melt down". I used 1.5GHz on the G2/DZ for almost 2 years and never had a problem. Come back with your results.