yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamz0r:
To win this would be awesome but I've never had any problems flashing anything so "unfortunately" I can't enter the competition, on the other hand I'm fortunate to never had any devices bricked!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] novo2393:
great

Thanks for sharing, just bad when i read the others and see i was the daftest lol.

i know it shuts on the 23rd (i think) but when will the winner be announced? i can imagine it may take a while to read all the entrys lol,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] scoobdude:
Do you know if the cdma version will work on sprints version of the phone? Planning on getting mine sunday. Unfortunetly I can't think of any good stories that surpass those. But I do have my fair share since the days of winmo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bjamerican:
nice. thanks for posting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wparkins:
Thanks for posting! I"ll have to think of my scariest moment for a bit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Memnoch30:
Thanks! I posted my own scary incident back when I had my AT&T Tilt (Kaiser).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCX Designs:
Just to give an example of the quality of the back cover, here's the one I had designed. Courtesy of Gruver Concepts (the company holding the contest with XDA)

The detail is explicit that even the fine lines of my logo were etched with perfection.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uoY_redruM:
This is such a cool contest! I just submitted my story. Would be awesome to combine my just ordered GSM Galaxy Nexus with an XDA branded back cover!

Think you'll enjoy my short story about attempting to update my brand new Nexus One while hiding in the work bathroom and thinking I ruined the phone :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] willverduzco:
Quick update for all who entered...

Just a quick update for all those who entered:

We received over a hundred contest entries, most of which were quite epic (perhaps even of the 4g variety)! Picking just 20 winners (10 GSM, 10 CDMA/LTE) was tough, so I added in 3 bonus winners who forgot to write in what type of Nexus they own, but still provided excellent stories. I will send those three an XDA-Developers T-Shirt instead.

Winners will be announced in an hour, at 11:30a Eastern time. At that point, I will shoot off PMs to the lucky few who had the most entertaining and spine-tingling stories asking for their mailing address.

Thank you to all those who participated in the contest. It's amazing how many crazy tales our mobile devices bring us!
[Networking] Thalinor:
I should have posted this two months ago when I found out, but got lazy. The now $30 fee reminded me and I decided I should pass the info along. I had a conversation with:

Handsets, Product Distribution, Business

Brenda Raney

908-559-7518

Brenda.Raney@VerizonWireless.com

This conversation was about the NFC blocking but I baited her with a comment and she responded by saying something along the lines of "Unlimited Data would no longer be an option on "Advanced" handsets released later this year (2012). When you upgrade to one of these new "Advanced" (IE Smartphone) you will have to give up your unlimited data plan and pick a paid package."

She would not tell me when it would happen, but said that Verizon was not under any obligation to continue to grandfather people with unlimited data. I fully expect this to happen as soon as Quad Core phones hit the market.

Just one more drop in the bucket. Removing unlimited data packages for new subscribers, removing early upgrades, every two discounts, blocking Google from releasing direct updates for developer devices like the Galaxy Nexus, and now the $30 upgrade fee.

No, I did not record the phone conversation but the removal of grandfathered unlimited data will happen, and sooner then later. Feel free to chalk it up to a rumor if you don't believe me but when it happens, don't say I didn't warn you.
[Networking] Dark lord me:
New Verizon devices use Sim cards, welcome to the world of buying off contract devices.
[Networking] I Am Marino:
I wonder if this will let you break contract.
[Networking] 754boy:
Sounds like it would to me :D
[Networking] 4ktvs:
It seems like something they would do. I think I know there "plan" to get every one off unlimited data.

I have herd some things, but not like this. I think this is about spot on.

Now I will hold on to both of my unlimited data for dear life.

Edit: yes they do throttle 4G and will be doing more and more intill the next iphone and then will pull an AT&T X2. They will likely force you out of unlimited when you upgrade or if you you are on a "old" 4G phone they will throttle you on 4GLTE. I know, becuase I was throttled on 4G and then I stoped using the phone for 3 days, now I am unthrottled and sit at 90+hours of uptime with 2GB of use.

Link to some one who got throttled on 4G:http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-Verizon-throttling-4G-speeds-too_id22818

Now he did use a crap load of data and I think he got what was coming, but I know when the new iphone with LTE comes out, WE ARE DOOMED. I have a 2nd line with unlimited data on AT&T, thats my back up plan. If not oh well.
[Networking] spunker88:
Once again Verizon showing how little they care about their customers. From a legal standpoint they could probably do this because when you get a new phone you are under a new contract. But what if you buy the phone from ebay, etc and just add it to your plan. You are still technically under the same contract but they could track ESNs and force your plan to switch.
[Networking] cell128:
I hope they don't do this. I just left att after months of looking to take over someones Verizon contract. I found a person with 2 unlimited lines hopefully its not short lived. I really don't want to go to sprint
[Networking] Product F(RED):
Verizon is CDMA only. The SIM cards are used for LTE, not GSM (a few phones have SIM slots for international GSM, but they're useless while on the Verizon network). So no, there is no buying of unlocked phones from Verizon.

Speaking of this, in China and other Asian countries, CDMA devices have SIM cards called R-UIM cards that work exactly the same way as GSM SIM cards, but CDMA carriers here in the US want to be able to stranglehold you in terms of what kinds of phone you use.
[Networking] SwampNutz:
Hopefully Sprint still has unlimited data and their act together when my current contract is up in two years. Verizon charges an arm and a leg for their services and it's not enough? They have to nickel and dime us every step of the way. Aside from decent service I can't say that I feel like I get a whole lot for my money with Verizon. I've just had enough bad experiences with AT&T, and Sprint that I've been afraid to go back to either of them. Maybe it's not so bad these days?
[Networking] 4ktvs:
I hope so too, becuase I need a 3rd back up plan and for every one elses sake.

My experience with AT&T has been very good, but I don't think that would be true if I was locked in for 2 years. Sprint has really come up in the last year or so and they seem like they are upgrading fast. (NV and LTE)
[Networking] techmatlock:
Not surprising in the least. Sprint will have to soon end too and remove grandfathered unlimited. Aside from that though, thanks for this update.
[Networking] jman42028:
I wouldn't read a ton into all this stuff. And I don't know how good of an idea it is to publish someones personal/professional contact info for them on any forum...

I worked with verizon for a while, and on a daily basis I was upgrading phones and allowing customers to keep these 5 or 6 year old alltel rate plans.

It is absolutely correct that verizon can remove unlimited from grandfathered accounts if it wants to, but verizon's course of action with old alltel plans and the like, suggest that it won't happen.

I'm not saying it will or wont happen, all I'm saying is that its definitely possible that they will allow you to keep unlimited data, as long as you are playing nice and not DLing 100 gb's a month on their network.
[Networking] boosterp:
I love all the misinformation, conjecture, an the posting of a professional email, signs of the derogation of society.

First: Yes VZW is charging an upgade fee. To say everyone is doing it is a cop out. To say that they are loosing money on equipment subsidies is true and the fee helps recap som of the cost while keeping prices competitive even with their own indirect partners.

Second, the only time you can loose a grandfathered plan per contractual agreement is a) older Altel devices that upgrade or change devices because there is no longer an Altel contract. b) you change to a basic (from smart) phone for over 30 days or c) you agree to it.

There are no exceptions to the three listed above. Don't believe me: 1800-922-0204 and ask for the loyalty department.
[Networking] 4ktvs:
I love all the verizon fan boys who think they are the best and they would NEVER pull some thing over them like: taking away unlimited data, THROTTLING or the $30 "upgrade" fee.

The contract only lets you keep grandfathered plan's for the lenth of time you signed up for (AKA 2 years) and then They can make you sign a new contract with out unlimited data if you want to upgrade and if you don't upgrade, then they can just take it away.

Why is so easy for me to type this you may ask? Becuase they throttled me at 12Gb and now I can't go over about 10-15gb with out ricking this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU&feature=channel&list=UL

P.S I sit at 65GB on AT&T and no throttling. Eat that verizon
[Networking] Tastywheat:
I really came in under the wire on this one. I upgraded about three months ago; still have my unlimited data. I never really understood why providers are simply eliminating unlimited plans rather than charging exorbitant amounts of money which plenty of people would pay.
[Networking] zero visual:
do you expect anything less of Verizon?
[Networking] 4ktvs:
Nope, this is what I think they will do. They are thinking about razing the price up as well to get every one off of it, like AT&T did the $20 unlimited to 30, but with more kick. I have herd every thing from 30 going up to 50, all the way to it replacing the 20GB plan.

Any way: They are going to do some thing soon and well I will just say it's not likely going to be good.
[Networking] DavidinCT:
Pretty much the exact thing I heard when I called them a few weeks ago. I've been out of a contract for almost 6 years now (just lucky that my phone breaks when they dont have any more and get a free upgrade). I currently have a HTC Trophy with Windows Phone 7 and dont have a newer one because they have not gotten newer WP7 devices, YET.

I called them up and was asking on new devices and presented them with the same question. According to Verizon, I can buy a new Smartphone today, sign a new 2 year agreement and I still will not lose my unlimited data plan according to them.

Of course the day I do it, that will be my first question and will ask for it in writing :)
[Networking] cell128:
As of this moment you are not forced off of your unlimited plan when upgrading phones or switching between current phones
[Networking] Thalinor:
So it's ok for Verizon to publish her information on their public website, but not for me to copy and paste it from that site to this one? I will edit this post later to provid the direct link to Verizon's corporate PUBLIC website that lists this PUBLIC information. As a "former Verizon employee" you should know all about their public site and what's listed on it. Even if it wasn't Verizon does not respect its customers so I have no respect for their employees at the upper level management.

I will get you that link tomorrow (today really, but later). My nephew is having a bad night teething and is co sleeping next to me so this post is on my device not a pc or I would do it now.

Fyi I have never gone over 5gb on my cell. I don't abuse my unlimited. Oh and I am rooted and can tether for free. Not everyone deserves to be ppunished for the crimes of a few. Wish VZW would figure that out but in reality people abusing unlimited is just an excuse to increase profits, which gets their CEO a bigger bonus. It's all about the money. Corporate Greed.
[Networking] boosterp:
55 gig right now on LTE an I am still getting 12Mbps dl speeds, what's yours? I'll post a screenshot if you do an we'll see who's the better.

Because there is no money in voice or text anymore, it's all about data.

My test:

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[Networking] 4ktvs:
I will do better than a pic, I will upload a 9 min 720p 2GB video showing my issue with verizon.

My upload speeds are not the best, so it will take a bit.

Link to guy getting throttled at 60GB: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-Verizon-throttling-4G-speeds-too_id22818
[Networking] nerdydesi:
Can you tell me please how you are doing that without very high overage fees or throttling from ATT? Because ATT now has set throttling limits for grandfathered unlimited customers, 5gb for LTE and 3gb for non-LTE. Are you on some certain plan and/or phone to use that much data without anything happening?

I will enjoy my Verizon unlimited LTE data while I can. I sadly do expect them to remove us from it sometime this year or throttling us like ATT. I am out of contract since this month and wondering if I should renew or buy phones off-contract to keep my unlimited data?
[Networking] boosterp:
Nerdy,

Right now there is no indication VZW will remove the unlim data plan. Hell, it took them 5 yrs to finally phase out the Altel mobile broadband unlim data and that was dine through not supporting Altel devices anymore. VZW sent out letters letting the off contract customers know.
[Networking] nerdydesi:
Hmm, I've used more than 60gb with Verizon and have never been throttled so far. I've been using their service since their first LTE phone, the Thunderbolt, launched in March 2011.
[Networking] 4ktvs:
Here is the video showing my issue with verizon:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZYLUZr-U0E&feature=channel&list=UL

My S2 has ICS on it, so it's a bit buggy. But it was still faster than the razr by a lot.
[Networking] 85gallon:
How many times are you going to post that tired-assed video?
[Networking] 4ktvs:
1) It's a new video

2) I only did becuase he wanted speed test, so I gave him some.

3) your just mad that some one could have an issue with crap you have.

4) Before you ask: I have gone to both the FCC and the BBB. ( I did that yesterday and now will wait for there reply.)
[Networking] Fltmobileuser:
Verizon is not slowing you down at all. You need to get your account rebuilt and your problems will go away. The same exact problem happened to a friend of mine who had 4 devices replaced. Now posting the same false info in every post is border line trolling and should earn you time in a corner :D
[Networking] Product F(RED):
I don't care if you guys disagree with me or insult or whatever you want for saying this, but you're ridiculous for using that much data on a mobile device. You are the reason carriers are switching to tiered plans, and you're the reason networks are strained and other users don't get adequate connections.
[Networking] boosterp:
Sorry buddy, while true networks are strained across all the major players in 3G, they are not in LTE. LTE allows for more throughput, more people using said data, and cost the networks a lot less to maintain and upgrade. This is an industry fact, reference Current Analytics. You'll need an account though.
[Networking] Kilj0y:
I hope they do not start trying to force people off until after the next iPhone release and I lock in another 2 years
[Networking] Reilly1812:
This might be true today but it won't last. How does someone blow through +100gb in a cycle? Video. Not easily abused in 3g but give them 4g and watch what happens. Cancel your cable internet and use your 4g exclusively. Tether everything you can think of. That 4g bottleneck will be right around the corner and watch the unlimiteds become extinct. :eek:
[Networking] Product F(RED):
It's not true today because not many people are on 4G. It's just like when 3G came out and it wasn't something everyone had. Either way, blowing through even 50GB is ridiculous on a phone. I'm not against people tethering, as long as it's not excessive. A little browsing, a little downloading, fine. But to use your phone as a modem 24/7 is ridiculous and greedy.

Yeah you're paying for "unlimited"...Unlimited to a reasonable extent, not 9,999,999GB. I'm not siding with the carriers. In fact I think they should take your money and not worry about how you use your data. And I think they charge an obscene amount of money for service. But once you start abusing the network at other people's expense, the fun stops.
[Networking] ben7337:
What if you commute an hour each way to and from work each day on a train, and want to watch HD video while doing so? That's 4000kbps lets say, 500kBps *60 sec * 60 min * 2 hr * 5 days a week * 4 wk/month / 1024kb/mb / 1024mb/gb= 68.66 GB a month just from daily video watching, not including any audio streaming at work or web browsing on weekends or on the go or other activities. I don't think I'd call that abuse, despite it being a lot of data. Granted it is a rare case. Most people drive to work or can't watch shows on their way, or don't have 1 hr commutes. However given that I've had LTE for all of 4 days now and used 1.6GB and all I've done is load less than 10 youtube videos, do some basic web browsing, and run a lot of speed tests. I can easily see even a moderate user hitting 20GB/month without any excessive use let alone actual abuse.

Basically I guess I'm trying to point out that reasonable "unlimited" is subjective, and can't just be decided at random.
[Networking] boosterp:
Without violating NDAs with two different carriers and a law or three I can say LTE allows for a lot more expansion at a much lower cost and almost twice the users than does 3G whether it is CDMA or GSM/HSPA. The sheer reason is equipment related. So, we will not see "throttling, data caps, etc for quite some time. If you want to read more about it you can read both VZW's and ATT's FCC applications.
[Networking] Rakeesh_j:
Nope. They don't remove your existing grandfathered plan unless you agree to it. You have to agree to it if you want a new phone. That wouldn't break any contract.

Why?

Sprint doesn't even offer limited data plans, so I'm not sure how they'd remove any grandfathered plans since there aren't any to begin with.

Sprint is a pathetic carrier, but their current selling point is being the only carrier with unlimited data. Without that they don't have ****, so I don't think they'd drop it any time soon.
[Networking] MrObvious:
That's vague. I'm sure towers with 4G still have the same amount of fiber lines going to them as the 3G towers. I've been in Verizon towers myself to strip/wax floors and saw they just had T3s and a T1 for 1X on some of the towers. Did they get bigger connections for 4G or something? I'm sure LTE itself allows for more tower to phone traffic but what about from tower to the actual network?
[Networking] ronartest2005:
Didn't someone higher up in VZW admit that they will throttle a phone that is a "data hog" if its on a "strained tower"?

Also I have been told (which doesn't mean much) by many advanced tech's that unless I change my data package that I will have it forever.

But it doesn't bother me too much, I only use around 5-6gbs a month...maybe.
[Networking] ronartest2005:
The whole thing that pisses me off about carriers having capped data is that 95% of their advertising for smartphones is showing people using their phones on 4g either video chatting or streaming something (which will eat up your data super fast)

So it's basically like "hey check out all of what your phone *can* do...just don't do it for more than 10-15mins a day on lte or you'll have a $300 bill"
[Networking] 85gallon:
Perhaps so. Maybe you need up the definition of the word derogation before suggesting, through your superior education, what word he meant.

derogate
[Networking] ronartest2005:
I am pretty sure if someone has already signed on for a new contract with terms agreeing to unlimited data that if verizon were to change that you could do an ETF with no fee.

Sprint pulled something like this before last christmas when they changed something in their terms and conditions and so they gave people 30 days to ETF without fees.

Like I said before though, for me having unlimited data was a must, but now that I see how much I actually use I probably could get by on the 4gb plan. But I know my neighbor who had an altell plan was able to upgrade his phone to 4g on verizon and keep his unlimited data. He told me he uses like 40gbs a month. But he will use his phone as a modem to play COD.
[Networking] Product F(RED):
Sprint does it pretty damn often too; it's happened 2 or 3 times in the last 2 years.
[Networking] ronartest2005:
Basically if you press sprint they will let you out without an ETF for any reason. They will ask for your phone back.

But the way I did it was by telling them that they are charging me $10/mo for "premium data" I then ask them what premium data meant to them...he responded with "Well typically smartphones use more 3g...." Me- "I can't even use 3g because the speeds are less than dialup and pages timeout"

As long as you're nice and keep pressing about paying for premium data that isn't premium they let you out.

Whereas with verizon I HIGHLY doubt they would let you out early for any other reason than them having to because they change the terms & agreements that both parties agreed to.
[Networking] Product F(RED):
I'm sitting on a $140 ETF. I want to switch to Straight Talk. I currently have an Epic 4G Touch that I don't want to give back to them, obviously because the ETF is half the value of the phone. But we'll see. My speeds are crap as well, so maybe I can get them with that.
[Networking] nerdydesi:
Its probably more likely that Verizon will institute throttling of unlimited plans, just like ATT has done since last year. They'd probably do it, even though I've kept hearing they "cannot" throttle due to FCC rules when they bought their certain spectrum to use for LTE. But these corporations will always find some catch or loophole to exploit at our expense.

I'm out of contract and mulling whether to renew in an effort to keep my unlimited data. I fear they may just yank it from me now that I'm going month-to-month. I feel that if I renew, then at worst, I can just leave without paying an ETF. But in this scenario, VZW will likely throttle vs. taking away the unlimited plan entirely, thus they still give you "unlimited" data and they didn't break their end of the deal, just like sneaky ATT has done.

I don't want to renew and then right then, Verizon institutes throttling and I am stuck with an ETF. My friend was unlucky enough to renew with the iPhone 4S with ATT last October, just as they started to institute throttling on unlimited plans. He was quite livid but will grudingly stay with them.
[Networking] ronartest2005:
Yep, there is always a loophole. Just like verizon saying that they will throttle a "data hog phone" if the tower it is on is overloaded.

Although I thought the whole reason for 4g (other than the speeds) was that it could handle more people and higher usage without it effecting others use.
[Networking] Product F(RED):
5GB on 3G is the same as 50GB on 4G; it even out to about the same thing. 4G was meant to accommodate more data usage, true. But not if your usage increases equally with capacity.
[Networking] ronartest2005:
Which is exactly why verizon put caps on data. They knew people would be tempted to use large amounts of data. Like I said, I thought when I first took over this unlimited plan that I would be using around 20gbs a month. I barely use 5.
[Networking] Product F(RED):
Yeah. If everybody used 4GB on 3G, and continued using 4GB on 4G, then network quality and capacity would increase. But now there are these nutjobs that think it's totally normal to use 50GB, 60GB, 100GB "because the 4G is faster so I use more data". Data speed has nothing to do with what you use. You're tempted to use more data because the data is faster. Downloading a 700MB movie on 3G is the same thing as downloading a 700MB movie on 4G; it doesn't magically turn into 1.4GB.