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[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
Yep, tell it to xmoo. He has a principles, why i cant? I just trying to say: there is no honesty if you try to break something. For example s off.
[HTC One X] xmoo:
You only are a pro, if you get paid for it.... in my vision.

Remember I am not a genius, I'm learning and trying... So if you do have a solution just share it. Together we are strong. Also I read you killed 8 HOXs... I don't know how you got 8 HOXs... I just got one and I paid 500 euros for it and if I kill this one, I'm screwd.

Will wait to see whit what solution you come up.
[HTC One X] drew071:
im confused lol. do you know how to s-off?

drew071
[HTC One X] svdhorst:
I PM'ed you today. I have a One X and willing to let you test S-Off on it if you need. I live in the same city :)
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
yes. I have some issue with displaying the information (radio path shown NONE), sometimes HOX stucks at booting. But i think its a soft (partition or cache) problem. Nevermind.
[HTC One X] mattman83:
Guys seriously,,,,

xmoo has been very active with this and put in alot of time (amongst others). No, there's no widely usable s-off just yet, but everyone knew this was going to be a hard phone to crack.

If you've found something - that's friggin awesome! Got some niggles? Post up what you're doing and some of the others might be able to help.

The whole point of this thread is the community working towards s-off. Nobody (well, I hope this is true) is doing it just to be the guy who cracked s-off on the hox. Bickering over who's done what and how they live their life etc is not going to benefit anything.

M.
[HTC One X] xmoo:
You mean this?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y19ypc88h0ynb72/2012-07-09 20.13.00.jpg

The radio is now in the system partition not in a HBOOT anymore.

The HBOOT get's the radio version from "android-info.txt", there is "RadioVer:". If you flash something without this file, you will get Radio none in HBOOT. But when Android boots and you check in system you will see radio version.
[HTC One X] Diamondback:
Can you guys

please

stay on topic?

It's getting annoying to clean this thread every 5 minutes!
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
no, i mean this
[HTC One X] xmoo:
So you managed a way to flash the HBOOT from RUU_Endeavor_U_HTC_Europe_0.87.401.0_Radio_0.120201.02.01_test that Football provided?
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
no. This is your mistake. Its not important what RADIO and HBOOT you have. I dont remember when i flashed this one. You need to search BOOTLOADER and dont look at the digits that shown version... As i understood you have official service things JAVACARD DIAG FILE etc?
[HTC One X] Thunder07:
he has s-off.... he might have or he might not.... but

if you try flashing it through RUU screen with unlocked though it wont flash the radio version would change(but not the radio)..

i for one has my radio version as Thunder07
[HTC One X] doublecheese:
I have been selling alot of steel products to Germany and Germans and I know that Germans do not speak bull**** if they say they would do it. (well most of the time :) )

If he says he has a solution, he has a solution , I'd believe him before you guy bush him around.

Secondly , some people said they are students and they need every penny, well I am 40 year businessman and I have a few EURO's to spend for the sake of S-OFF if needed.
[HTC One X] drew071:
i agree, i think he does know how to.

I believe that with all the knowledge people have here that working together is the way forward. People arguing isnt accomplishing anything.

Xmoo and Erik should work together and S-off might be closer than we think.

Drew071
[HTC One X] Htc_One_X:
If we do indeed have a lead on how to soff, we should request we have the thread locked down until further notice, it'll stop pointless replies (including this one as it has naff all to do with soff ) any more leads I think should be sent to leading devs by pm....
[HTC One X] kb0n:
Appreciate all the effort that has been taken to get closer to "S-OFF 4all".

Hower, would be nice if this thread could be about the development of it, not "how long?", "do u know hot to s-off?" or "I do/don't believe he knows how to s-off" (and this post from me, too). That's not helping at all.

The same about xmoo's javacard+DIAG S-OFF method. Nice to found a way (thumbs up!), but what good is it to post a "how-to" video when mentioning at the same time sth like "well, ain't gonna help you annyway, cause you can't get one of those DIAG files"?! Right, besides simply knowing that a proven way exists, none. (Just say "I have a S-OFF device now which I can work on" would've had the same result).

And I appreciate the "educational" approach of Erik (give hints on where to look -> figure it out yourself -> gain better knowledge of it), but this is not helping the community right now, which is what this is all about. Ppl should be able to learn if they want to, but this is like "haha, I know a way, and I won't tell you...see if you'll figure it out yourselves, I'll just give a few hints"...there're other ways such that everyone can benefit.

(just to be clear, as I said I appreciate all the hard work, and seeing some ppl got S-OFF is awesome)
[HTC One X] MemAllocatoR:
PG58DIAG.nbh is the one you talking about?

I have it, now only need the java card?

I wanna know because if so I want to s-off my device and then play with it and try to find a way to s-off without java card...
[HTC One X] miniudavid:
The pg58 for sensation? Its only used to unlock from provider as far as I know
[HTC One X] skygear:
It was stated before. The HTC signed JAVA CARD allows the device to bypass checks allowing the DIAG file to be run. The leaked DIAG file for the Sensation was a low level version that was leaked(allowing I'm unlocking). xmoo has one of the Higher up Versions of the file From the head of a service center(that allows full security off). That file has more privileges and he has it in conjunction with a HTC SIGNED JAVA CARD.

So chances of us ending up with HTC Signed Java Cards is slim... That is what allows the DIAG file to be flashed, bypassing the CID check.
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
as I promised. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJxgoJrbSeA&feature=youtu.be
[HTC One X] Adrianiii:
I cant se a **** on this video.

Skickat från min HTC One X via Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X] Thunder07:
shouldnt it say security warning aswell???
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
No, if you get the phone to think that everything is in order
[HTC One X] skygear:
appears it was DEV unlocked first? then S-Off? But yeah, The whole process would have been nice.

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Did you use anything else besides the normal cable to do the process? Or is the community going to need to invest in another Y cable? Additional hardware?
[HTC One X] MySam:
I've had my suspicions and I think my gut is true, yer a troll!
[HTC One X] KrisPerry:
This doesn't really help us. How did you achieve it
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
Did you use anything else besides the normal cable to do the process? Or is the community going to need to invest in another Y cable? Additional hardware?[/QUOTE]

Ordinary USB Cable, micro soldering Iron and 6 hrs to solder few contacts inside of HOX. Like i said before - without hardware modding you will never get s-off. As i know 5 HTC Sensations was killed before they got s-off. Next week ill buy new one HOX to test it with my method. While my last test i killed 9th HOX.

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I was not going to show how I did it. I just showed that I could do it.
[HTC One X] skygear:
Ordinary USB Cable, micro soldering Iron and 6 hrs to solder few contacts inside of HOX. Like i said before - without hardware modding you will never get s-off. As i know 5 HTC Sensations was killed before they got s-off. Next week ill buy new one HOX to test it with my method. While my last test i killed 9th HOX.

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I was not going to show how I did it. I just showed that I could do it.[/QUOTE]

What additional drivers, flashing tool, jTag device was used? Will you share the pinouts? I could make a JIG similar to the nokia style with Pogo Pins..
[HTC One X] LlabTooFeR:
Street magic :laugh:
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
well, invent your own solution, I'm not against it
[HTC One X] doublecheese:
I understand this message as You already found a method but you are not willing to share this method and keep to yourself , if what I understood is correct then:

Wow, now what do you want ? A medal or what ?

Look man , if you are NOT going to show how to do it , then do not show off !!! why bother showing off ?

If you got the S-OFF only for yourself, go have fun with it but then don't post it here as obviously this is the wrong community .

In short, if you will share, just share otherwise don't show to us. What is your gain when you have the S-OFF and when you don't share it ? Do you get turned on or what ?

Secondly that video does not show us anything , Take a different S-ON phone and S-OFF it while filming the video then we believe.
[HTC One X] skygear:
What additional drivers, flashing tool, jTag device was used? Will you share the pinouts? I could make a JIG similar to the nokia style with Pogo Pins..[/QUOTE]

So to clear it up for everyone. You used a hardware method. Similar to the old flashing of most unlock solutions. IPhone, Motorola, etc. all had pinouts to do this. The IPhone unlock was a very publicized process and the guy got a job for releasing it.
[HTC One X] Thunder07:
Football i can too and anyone can do it...

no magic no nothing and almost anyone with a windows machine can do it,

simply get a hboot img<--- as in a picture...

open paint and change it a bit,

send it to your phone and you have an s-off....

if you wanna be a bit more advanced animate it so it shows diag and other updating process and vola WIN:good:
[HTC One X] LlabTooFeR:
Of course that's obvious :) He is just a troll over here, so guys keep calm ;)
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
I wanted you to learn politeness. No more and no less. If I had a device with a s-off, I would not even need this forum initially. No result, an aggression and anger on the part of participants. You share a piece of bread with the homeless, who rocks at you? I do not. Say Hello!
[HTC One X] theliquid:
There is something wrong ;)

Look at this!
[HTC One X] LlabTooFeR:
Troll revealed, thanks everyone for watching show Troll whisperer on xda channel :D
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
I don't think you have any place on these forums TBH!!!!

(sorry for OT)
[HTC One X] skygear:
He had said he was having an issue having all the additional info displayed.

@Erik - did you HEX edit the boot loader or anything?
[HTC One X] Thunder07:
if he was tell him the space hex is 0x20

hehehe
[HTC One X] doublecheese:
Politeness comes back and hits you automatically !!! that is if you deserve it, but if you say "I got a toyyyy , you ain't got one", no one will be polite to you.

You asked for it
[HTC One X] theliquid:
It might be a display error, but its very unlikely.

@ Erik Lieders Can you explain that missing space?
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
you need this toy, not me.
[HTC One X] Thunder07:
you see, this happens to be the toy which is very much useless in one hand,

like playing twister,monopoly,guess who, on your own
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
i said at next week ill make new one test with new one HOX. You want to brick your phone? I NEED TO APPROVE MY METHOD!
[HTC One X] skygear:
Look- Can all the bickering please stop. This is how we scare all the people away from our projects. KEEP AN OPEN MIND!
[HTC One X] Aust S5:
Guys enough, if erik has it or not it doesnt help anyone who doesnt want to open their phone. Lets stay on topic. Please
[HTC One X] junialum:
I suggest that anyone ignores bickering and do not respond to taunts. Makes the thread more focused and makes those who try to fight look stupid and isolated. Also saves mod clean up time.

So let's just completely ignore posts that do not contribute to this discussion constructively.
[HTC One X] xmoo:
Maybe his method will work (if not fake). But if it needs disessembly... Your warrenty is removed... If it needs DEV Unlock... Your warrenty is removed... So cool you figures to do a hardware & software edit to s-off... But no use...

We are looking for a software way to s-off, to make it easier.

Your video looks like a img in the HTC Gallery, play with the HBOOT menu will make it more legit.
[HTC One X] oiOIoi:
Been watching this topic from day 1 and never posted much before (as I can remember because i follow xda for many many years), but this looks really hopeless... I'm a Dutch IT-guy like xmoo, but I would NEVER solder my HOX for s-off because some German guy hoaxed a few pics... Lol..

Rooted my HOX two months ago with HTC dev and I am still liking my s-on hox. F#CK WARRANTY, but burning your HOX-board goes much too far :P

--) Need any help xmoo? Holler... (--

Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk
[HTC One X] jorsolano:
I must admit this member seems "strange", but do not bring here nationality S.....t. This is a community and you can find good developers, engineers and IT people everywhere.
[HTC One X] kb0n:
Getting from DEV-Unlock to S-OFF would be at least some solution, so I wouldn't cut that out from the development (despite that HTC can't void your warranty unless they know you applied DEV-Unlock, just signing the htcdev form and getting the img by mail means nothing...but that's a different topic here).

Anyway, whether software (preferred) or hardware approach, any way to gain S-OFF should be considered and welcome.

There're always ppl who'd use any approach, even if it's not all of them, so it'd be helpful. Besides, a soulition here and there could lead to further ideas or development, who knows. Every knowledge is valuable.
[HTC One X] vincepg13:
I'm going to laugh so much if this guy actually does know how to soff and you were all so quick to jump on him. Shame on you all. What has happened to the community here
[HTC One X] supendal:
It would be more legit if he make a video of playing with hboot menu, making selections, entering recovery, etc... Still there's a chance of him being one of those who have s-off from the beginning. People have reasons for being sceptical here.
[HTC One X] doublecheese:
Community ?? You have read well to be part of that community, why we are mad at him ? Because he said he found a way to S-OFF but he is not showing us how to ...... If he is not showing us how to, then he can goto anywhere but not on XDA , this is a community and people gather here to learn and share.

If someone shows off and not share, I simply diss him as this is not the place to show off.

When I first bought my XTC CLIP to S-OFF my Incredible S (at that time there was no other methods) I put up an ad on XDA saying I am ready to S-Off anybody's Incredible S and all other phones for FREE. And I actually S-Off'ed about 9-10 fellow XDA member's phones who actually lived close to me. And I did not charge a penny.

With some of them we became really good friends. One of them bought for me my 2nd One X while he was visiting Hong Kong. Another one did my company's web site.

This is Community, this is sharing !!! not some people saying " I got a solution but my solution is only for me "
[HTC One X] vincepg13:
He clearly said he still has some things he wants to verify before he goes into details on HIS method so don't give me that lecture
[HTC One X] MySam:
I've been lurking for years on Xda, on Reddit too( meh ) and after a while you get that Xen feeling, a wee bit like when your in softice for a few hours or daze and your gut tells you that your being trolled. Erik is a troll!

There is others on this thread, oh only if I had mod privileges, this thread would be truly clean and a great happiness would be enjoyed by the real people of Xda

Btw this tonic wine is bloody strong, hic ;-) :eek:

Ps. Sorry for the OT, this beast of a phone is proving patience for all.
[HTC One X] KamikaZeeFu:
Well that is quite the stupid attitude.

He said his method requires a hardware mod, and he killed 9 HOX in the process.

So NOT sharing it is by all means reasonable. Before you release anything you should be 1000% sure that it's not bricking anyone's 600€ phone.

Giving someone flak because he thinks of YOUR phone first is pretty silly :P

On topic:

I noted in his pics that the radio ver is 0.120201.xxxxx AFAIK all radio versions start with 1.xxxxxxxxxxx maybe this is a clue?
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
This is Community, this is sharing !!! not some people saying " I got a solution but my solution is only for me

I like this phrase... Say it ti xmoo and football. They have the things that they ll never sharing with you)
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
I was following your post this afternoon and I taught a nice man with humor.

You critisized Xmoo's doing but in a way I could understand as I taught you where just making a joke.

I was realy looking forward on what you had to bring tonight.

It's a pitty you are not keeping your word, truely dissapointing. :(

You don't prove anything with that video because you said a simple solution, I can't see anything about that.
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
I was not going to show how I did it. I just showed that I could do it. (2)
[HTC One X] Sylvania2:
Hi

Hmm.. somewhere someone wrote that HTC states that the hox security is unbreakable. Xmoo and Erik has untill now (nearly) proved that! Solutions until now Sdcard with HTC keys or hardware modification. Hope that Erik will publish a how-to as he says :)

Best regards
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
with a great pleasure! BUT when ill totally make sure that my method is safe for others.
[HTC One X] xmoo:
The way I s-offd should not count. This is the same HTC does there unlocking... But now the normal people did it ;)

Can't wait Erik!
[HTC One X] skygear:
Erik - you know how to get ahold of me. If theres anything in the future needed, I'll do my best to assist'
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
ok... i will tell you what i did with my HOX.

ONLY IF BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED WITH HTC DEV. I tried the same with locked phone - no result.

1. I opened it

2. I soldered GSM anthenna to cpu diod bridge (GR + 0,07 V)

3. I made short circuit between GRND CPU and ROM chip (GRND) at start

4. Rebooted the phone.

5. Tried to flash unsigned radio. If no - go to 3. If yes - go to 6

6. Got s-off

Result: phone is booting. Sometimes it get stuck. Sometimes it get very hot. Sometimes it slow as hell (video, internet surffing etc). Sometimes SD card is not available. When i flash another hboot it still shows previous info. I think my method is the burn of a part of security and part of ROM (CPU?).

Do you wanna try to check this and avoid your warranty?
[HTC One X] Harrysoon:
When you get round to posting stuff, could you also post how you came about finding the method? Would be interesting to know how you discovered it as well.
[HTC One X] skygear:
Got a PIC of the Board?
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
at next week i guess. I have now just one phone and i need to call. Nex test will be when ill get new one HOX
[HTC One X] skygear:
understandable
[HTC One X] kb0n:
Well, as true as this "security" issue might be, this is a community-based development thread. You can't help in development, if ppl don't release their alpha,beta,etc versions. Everybody knows, there is a risk, sometimes this risk might be just higher (one can simply mention that as a side-note). Even all the ROMs you install on your phone have a warning, "may kill your blabla, I'm not responsible".

Those that are willing to take the risk and help developing, can't. Just like xmoo came back from the meeting with the "S-OFF device guy", shared his results, and a few members were willing to take the risk to try his methods. Sharing (if it is supposed the be shared anyway at some point) only benefits the development-speed, brings new ideas etc. You don't take no risks, only the willingly participating users (except if it is i.e. a software exploit that HTC could follow and fix, or sth like that).

Anyway, I think what's more upsetting is the way of the announcement and the reactions to other user's comments. Just say "found a way, hardware-mod, need to confirm/check myself first" in the first post would've been fine. But "found a way"....."will only give a hint, and post proof later"...THEN "won't release because need to review"...THEN "never said I'd release"...can't blame ppl for getting upset about it ;) Maybe everybody needs to just calm down. Drink a tea. After all, someone might have valuable information and has probably taken some risk to get it (9 HOX dead? ^^)

That's of course a different story :)
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
if you want to check it right now... Foto from internet, but here is all you need. I marked all needed connections.

Please use micro soldering Iron. Otherwise you may damage the motherboard.

Well im not responsible for any damage. Use at your own risk bla bla bla...
[HTC One X] Jhinta:
As hightech engineer this doesnt make sens as i look at the pic,

grnd rom and cpu sould be grnd by default i think that when you do a ohm test it sould show 0 as those plates are for anti waves.

also cpu diode having a +v adding to antena ( well depens witch is higer in volt and direction of flow )

but any way , this is just a basic look at it , as i dont have it open or schematic

So ceureus about the final product and how this realy works
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Is it?

Like I said I don't see anything in that Youtube video about you did it 'without javacards and other ****'.

That's why I'm saying your not keeping your word.

In your earlier post I see you like to 'teach' others a lesson, one advise which you probably won't take but nevertheless,

'please', have a look at yourself first?! :cyclops:

I realy taught you where making jokes, but you 'realy are' a sad character.

Congrats with your S-Off, have a beer on yourself and be carefull nobody steels your device.
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
Just for blind person:

ok... i will tell you what i did with my HOX.

ONLY IF BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED WITH HTC DEV. I tried the same with locked phone - no result.

1. I opened it

2. I soldered GSM anthenna to cpu diod bridge (GR + 0,07 V)

3. I made short circuit between GRND CPU and ROM chip (GRND) at start

4. Rebooted the phone.

5. Tried to flash unsigned radio. If no - go to 3. If yes - go to 6

6. Got s-off

Result: phone is booting. Sometimes it get stuck. Sometimes it get very hot. Sometimes it slow as hell (video, internet surffing etc). Sometimes SD card is not available. When i flash another hboot it still shows previous info. I think my method is the burn of a part of security and part of ROM (CPU?).

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almost the same was with HTC Sensation. Tell it to the first Sensation users)
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
@Erik Lieders,

Yes that looks a lot simpler then 'javacards and other ****' indeed hihi.. :cyclops:
[HTC One X] Erik Lieders:
it can be made by every person.
[HTC One X] n1kon:
Xmoo,

Fancy setting up an s-off business via post lol.
[HTC One X] teky:
Right, guys..... Stop the slating of everyone.

We have Xmoo and football looking at how to get a software based solution of S-Off, after getting HTC's official way to do it.... but will leave people in doggy poo if the files are released to the masses, plus the card needs to be signed by HTC.

And we have Erik with his hardware based solution, which he wants to test with another HOX before confirming it 100% as he has killed 9 HOX's in the process of finding the right way, Plus has posted the steps he did now.

We should be cheering that we are finally getting somewhere.
[HTC One X] MySam:
Doublecheese, can we see you shoot your hox yet :confused: