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[HTC Desire S] Gormsen:
Are you referring to the two methods mentioned in this post?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1146601

If so, then go for the method with downgrade and revolutionary S-OFF. I don't quite understand you question?

I never created a gold card, and I'm doing fine without. I don't think you need one unless you use the method with HTC-dev.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Use the newer version from shadi22
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
How can you be so certain?(not ironic but please explain your reasoning cause I really don't want a bricked phone) Because he says in underlined and bold that :

"This method works for software version 2.11 and above and doesn't work for version 2.10 below.. Please use zegRush if this doesn't work for you."

And I have 2.10.124.8 .
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Ah my mistake. Then you should use the other one. If done correctly though, neither should brick the phone

Sent from my Desire S
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Ok then. What about the ruu then? Will i be able to use the one for europe or do I have to create a goldcard ? I have read about it but I am not sure if I am branded or not. If someone can help me I would appreciate it.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
You need to use the one specific to your carrier and region. It also has to be one with the older h-boot

Sent from my Desire S
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
it is recommended that you adjust the following two settings:

Settings->Applications->Development->USB debugging = TICK (Yes)

Settings->Power->Fast boot = UNTICK (No)

Install ADB/FASTBOOT on your PC (by following advice given in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1272595 )

You should then be able to determine your base ROM details by using command, and noting all the details in settings...about phone....software ....more

fastboot getvar cidnum

You'll find the code in the following list

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=994630&d=1334067717

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[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Thank you! This was a complete answer. I will do it and post here. :)
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Ok so I type the command but nothing is happening... It says that it's waiting for the device and nothing happens. I typed fastboot getvar vodap006.

Any help? Thank you beforehand.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
You should reboot the phone so that its in BOOTLOADER (fastboot) mode.

plug in USB cable from PC

Alright mis-communication there, you must actually type

fastboot getvar cidnum

and the purpose of that is you'll get returned the region ie HTC__001

How did you know vodap006? as thats the answer and the purpose of this command

So I suggest reboot phone into bootloader and then you could simply type

fastboot getvar all

which should return a greater amount of information.
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Ok thx for the clarification. I read it at the post you linked and I thought it must have been the one to type. Anyway I will do it right hopefully this time :)

edit: ok it says I got cidnum T-MOBN14 and I dont know which one is that. I can't find it in your link. Any ideas ?
[HTC Desire S] paul.robo:
solved ???? I got same issues

---------- Post added at 01:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:03 AM ----------

never mind. sorted it now I typed the same op lol until I went down further lmao
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
After some searching here on the forum it seems that I must create a goldcard to chance the cidnum to 11111111. Is this correct? Can it be done only with the goldcard or is there any other program needed?

Thank you.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I believe that the creation of a goldcard will enable you to flash a ROM which is not intended for your region, which is the same as what happens when you have a cidnum of all 1's anyway.

So just create a goldcard and try the RUU with that in place
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Is there any way I can change the cidnum without a goldcard? I wanna avoid it if possible :P
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Yes, but they're far more complex....ie XTC-Clip

The Gold card is certainly the easier option that you have! just make one! whats the concern, why don't you want to use one? only have one SD card?
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Well I read the sticky and I would like to use the method with the adb commands but I don't understand how (and if) I must get temproot.
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Ok so I followed this post to make a goldcaard

"Try to make the Gold Card again.

Here's how I made the GoldCard and upgraded my T-MOB branded DS using the European RUU (I use it in Greece).

1. Used a 2GB SD card (from an old BBerry I have), inserted it in the DS and then went to "Settings" --> "SD Card & Phone Storage" --> "Unmount SD Card" and then "Erase SD Card".

2. right click and "run as admin" to launch the GoldCard tool (windows executable that can be found in many topics in xda & I'm attaching it here too).

3. connect your phone to your pc usb port and make sure that it is in "charge only" and you have "usb debugging" enabled.

4. On the GoldCard tool click on "get CID" and if it does not work for mmc1 try mmc1 or use the "Gold Card Helper" from Market to get the mmc2 CID as I did.

5. Open the link mentioned in Gold Card Tool to go to RevSkills site and paste the MMC reverse CID, select android goldcard type, and you can download your goldcard image file.

6. Change your phone to "USB Mass storage" and click refresh in Gold Card Tool until you see the drive letter assigned to the SD Card of your phone.

7. Select now "Format MMC" to format your card, then click Load GoldCard.img & browse to the image file you downloaded in step #5.

8. Select "Patch MMC" and once it's done, you have a GoldCard!

After that you can start the RUU update process!"

How can I tell if I have done it successfully?

edit: By the way the sdcard I used is 4gb and class2. Hopefully it doesn't change anything
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Please someone answer my questions from above. Can I change the cid with the goldcard so I don't have to use it again? How do I know if I made it correctly so I can downgrade.

Thanks :)
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Both the downgrade methods mentioned work fine with unbranded phones.

Both the methods in the index thread are the same except that one uses zergrush and the other tacoroot.

After gaining temp root the rest of the process is same in both the methods.

Both are different hacks to get temp root which is the target after which you will apply misc_version to change the version and then apply RUU to downgrade.

For some zergrush works for others tacoroot, irrespective of software version.

So try zergrush first, if it doesnt work, try tacoroot.

read the forums, you will find many similar threads.

Ensure that you are unbranded. if you have a branded phone you might need a gold card before you start the process
[HTC Desire S] an8rwpofagos:
Ok first thanks for providing the differences to the two downgrading methods. But have you really read my posts? You are asking me to search (which I am) and you just gave me a generic answer to a specific problem.

If you wanna help at least read what I post don't just tell me to search. What is the point of having a forum and a community then? Please understand that this is an expensive phone and I wanna make sure I don't end up with a brick instead.

So to sum it up:

1) How can I confirm that the goldcard I made is done correctly so I can start the downgrade?

2) Can I change the cidnum to 11111111 so I don't have use the goldcard anymore? Meaning can I unbrand it?

If anyone can answer those I will be grateful. Until then I will keep searcing ;)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orionpax123:
is it possible to get round this without paying someone to do it?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xRegrets:
Don't think there is a way.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Masters2150:
Be friends with someone who can do it.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xperia4life:
You'll never ever Unlock for free if your Not generic User (Rooting status: yes) By the looks of things but its really cheap tho"!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
There is no free way. Your only options are paying someone to unlock it with something like setool, or using omnius, which needs credits you have to buy.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soraxd:
I always thought 300 KB was the limit for text messages, but my friends been sending me pics over 300kb.. and also she sends me 2minute long videos... my sgs2 videos never convert down, how does she do it? I always get really clear pictures from her, but I can never send any like that... even if I try to forward a text she sends me, it says the file is too large to send.. so what gives?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MistahBungle:
As far as I know MMS size is network dependent. It was a few years back (say 2008). Could easily have changed since tho.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soraxd:
anyone else know what's up
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ctomgee:
Who is your friend's carrier?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soraxd:
Verizon, I have att.. is there a hack around this?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] javipas:
Hi all

I've just bought a second-hand HTC Desire from a user that had it locked with Orange Spain. I've applied Revolutionary and I've rooted it and installed a custom ROM (MIUI XJ), but although everything else seems to work fine, I have "no service" for phone calls.

I thought it was a matter of unlocking it, so I applied the SIM-unlock tool and it seemed to have been successful, but the icons are always the same: no service, a sim card with an exclamation mark, and a grey icon with the usual four bars, all of them greyed, like if the service don't exist at all.

In fact, if I go to settings, I can't access to networking options to see if there are other mobile operators available.

I wonder if this is a radio problem (baseband 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14) or simply that the phone is still locked. I've tried to install a new radio, but the following message appears:

Installing update

Amend scripting (update-script) is no longer supported.

amend scripting was deprecated by Google in Android 1.5

It was necessary to remove it when upgrading to the ClockworkMod 3.0

Gingerbread based recovery Please weitch to Edify scripting (Updater=script and update-binary) to create working update zip packages

Installing aborted.

I don't know how to install a radio otherwise, so if someone thinks (or knows) this is the problem, please give me some insight to install an updated radio.

I'm wondering if there are any other options to unlock the phone: the phone does not recognize the SIM, because it doesn't ask for the PIN code, so I'm pretty lost here :(

SOLVED: I'm stupid. The SIM card was not properly inserted. I didn't pay attention and changed sides. Everything works fine now!
[Acer Iconia A500] ztotherad:
im not sure what ive done wrong or anything, ive flashed the new ICS update (0.09, i believe) and i think ive unlocked the bootloader on it, haha

sorry im not very helpful, but i figured id post it here asking for help, or be redirected to another forum or something

ty!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
I haven't played with my old Sprint Galaxy S2 E4GT in awhile. I dusted it off last night installed the latest ICS ROM, phone is still very fast device, but that low res screen is outdated.

But I have to admit, the Super AMOLED + screen is very beautiful, looks bright and colorful, where as the Galaxy Nexus colors look blueish and just off in comparison.

I think I may just jump ship to the Galaxy S3 if rumors are true, it having a HD 720p Super AMOLED+ screen, instead of pentile

Opinions ??
[HTC One X] Try4Ce:
Hey guys!

Seems like the original HTC Camera App is quite a bugger. Sure, it's interface is fancy and intuitive with quite the features, but hear me out.

I bought Camera Zoom FX back in the days and loved to use it with my Galaxy S2 since it produced some wonderful shots for me.

I tried it out now on my One X device, and there I made quite a discovery.

First of all, I did 2 test shots for each camera, so in total 4.

The first one I did outside, cloudy sky, slight rain -> white concrete wall. Makro shot. The second on I did indoors, closed room, artificial light (bad light condition).

Second is: I'll also write down the filesize of the photos. The difference is, least to say, overwhelming.

Another point is: As soon as I took a shot with the HTC camera app, I simply can't take any photos anymore with Camera Zoom FX. Camera screen stays black after a shot, photo doesnt get saved, app needs to be killed. It will only work again after a reboot. Seems like the HTC camera app not only applies heavy compression and somewhat dark lighting, but also causes glitches and issues within the system regarding the camera api.

Enough talk, see for yourself:

Keep in mind, I didnt use LED flash, nor HDR. Simple setup, no color corrections or post processing. Those are raw, untouched images down there!

Macro - Cloudy Sky, Slight Rain, White concrete wall

HTC camera (Original: 2,14 MB)

Camera Zoom FX (Original: 4,48 MB)

Autofocus - Indoor, closed room, poor light condition, artificial light

HTC camera (Original: 1,50 MB)

Camera Zoom FX (Original: 4,80 MB)

Okay, guys. Now that you've seen those shots, what are your thoughts and impressions? To me, the color, brightness and sharpness looks ALOT better with Camera Zoom FX. PLUS - focusing seems to be much more stable on Camera Zoom FX, and its still FAST. Maybe its a little too bright with CZFX, but still, that just shows that the HTC One X Camera is capeable of much more!

HTC, fix your camera application!!
[HTC One X] fi3ry_icy:
in my opinion, the 2nd shot seem way better for both cases u uploaded..
[HTC One X] shea-bird:
WOW... incredible difference...can you take a few more samples outside with decent lighting?

that is really amazing how much better the FX shots look...

so you are saying that you can only take one FX shot at a time- and then you have to reboot??
[HTC One X] shangostar:
I found the HTC camera to produce a lot of noise even in well lit environment.

The camera is one of their big selling points it seems odd they would use so much JPEG compression in the software. Personally I'd like to output images as actual RAW files.

Also the brightness and colour contrast of the HTC one X screen seems to have given them a bit of a dilemma with the colour of photo's, when you take a shot and view it on the phone screen the colour looks good but when you then view it on a monitor the colour looks washed out and dull, Problem is if the camera reproduced the colour correctly it would look way over saturated on that bright screen of the phone.

EDIT

I just had this same issue after taking some shots in the garden, not with camera zoom fx though, I dont have that installed, took half a dozen shots then the camera appeared not to take photos, it would focus, make the shutter sound and seemingly take a picture but on viewing i just got a black screen with a triangle and exclamation. reboot was needed. this was using only the htc camera app.
[HTC One X] LTavaress:
OMG! There's a HUGE difference between those pictures!!! I was a little disappointed with one x's camera quality but now it's clear that it is software related, the camera itself is capable of taking better pictures. I really hope HTC fixes this soon, because I think this is a major problem that has to resolved.
[HTC One X] shangostar:
Definitely needs to be resolved, been out taking some more and it only seems to successfully shoot a picture half the time, seems it doesnt need a reboot to get it working again, it just randomly decides when it wants to take a picture or not, seems to mostly fail in very well lit sunny conditions. also had some freezes using the camera needing a hard reboot.
[HTC One X] nickhuk:
Also downloaded - Different results

I also downloaded camera zoom fx - both stock app and camera zoom are set to auto. in my opinion the camera zoom picture looks over exposed

Camera Zoom Fx may peform better on a sunny day???

both very similar sizes Camera Zoom was 0.2 Mb bigger

first image is Camera Zoom
[HTC One X] hamdir:
guys all you need to do is increase the exposure in the htc camera app for similar results

i love the camera guys every pic you post i see amazing colors, actually Camera FX images are over exposed
[HTC One X] shangostar:
Doesnt make a difference for me, tried on manual ISO with same result, it cant take a picture in well lit conditions, tried a few again, if i point the camera to the garden (sun behind me) it cant take a picture, if i point the camera down to the floor standing in the same position so there is less light on the sensor it will take a picture, point it back up again, fails to take a picture.

been trying in different areas too, in shadowed areas or indoors its fine, something that is well lit by the sun it fails to take a picture at all.

Gonna try Camera FX now

actually no im not, it's not free lol
[HTC One X] LittleMerc:
I dont think the camera is at total fault... If you play around with the camera settings you can adjust the amount of exposure and sharpness of the photo... I personally feel that this setting is quite good under normal conditions:

Exposure -1

Saturation -1

Sharpness -1

Contrast -1 (play around with different light ambience)

These settings actually gave quite good results for me... although undeniably raw uncompressed pictures are better... just my 2 cents...
[HTC One X] Basil3:
Dunno what it costs now, but it was on sale for something like 50c a couple of weeks ago.....not that that helps you at all!
[HTC One X] shangostar:
It's on sale now in the uk too at just under £2, I know that's not a lot but I'm not paying for an alternative app just because the one on my brand new £500 phone doesn't work properly. Hopefully software updates or custom roms should fix the issues and realistically I'll rarely use the camera anyway, I have a DSLR I will use when I know I want to photograph stuff but was just hoping the HTC camera might be good to use on the occasion I don't have the DSLR with me.

And it probably will be if i can just get it to take pictures in the sun.
[HTC One X] Try4Ce:
Well, after some further testing I can confirm that in regular daylight conditions, Camera Zoom FX as well as ICS Camera (Market) both produce over exposed photos.

That is kinda weird. I also experience intense flickering on the capture frame while using the mentioned apps.

Sometimes, both apps dont even shoot a photo. Camera Zoom FX just stays at a black capture frame, and ICS Camera just FC.

What's up with that cam, seriously? Thats kinda weird... Tho, sharpness still looks a litttle better with third party camera apps. File size is always way bigger, too.

I think the camera is capeable of doing much more. I guess the drivers are still not really final yet.
[HTC One X] shangostar:
How bright and sunny is it where you are today?

it's very bright here and I cannot get it to take images in the sun at all, just getting black screens like you mentioned.
[HTC One X] ShyamSasi:
Camera compression is better inOne X. I had Xperia Arc and camera compression was horrible, Same 8 MP cam it used to be below 1 MB but it does produced awesome pictures.
[HTC One X] Try4Ce:
Yea, pretty bright. Seems like the apps have issues with bright environments and therefore bright captures ... bugger
[HTC One X] shangostar:
I'm wondering if the fixed f2.0 aperture is just too wide for sunny conditions, great for low light yes but I wouldn't use f2.0 on a DSLR in very bright conditions unless I was using a fast shutter speed and since there is no shutter speed adjustment on the One X, 2.0 I think is just too wide for those conditions, even on 100 ISO

Just popped back out into the garden now the sun has gone down some and the same pictures that wouldn't take earlier are now taking ok.
[HTC One X] Eddzz!!:
Okay guys, I don't know if any of you here are photographers - but I am... :p

It doesn't matter what app you use for your phone-photography - it's all using the same lens! What matters is the settings you use. Given, the 3rd party apps may implement their settings better, but nothing that the stock camera app isn't capable of. Know how to adjust your shutter speed and ISO settings accoridngly and you'll come out with some cracking pictures (considering the size of the lens and sensor). At the end of the day, it's a PHONE CAMERA. It ain't never going to be perfect. If you want great image quality, go out and a buy a dSLR or compacts / micro 4/3s camera. ;)
[HTC One X] ArmedandDangerous:
Photographer here too :P

I do wish there was an option for less compression on the stock app though /: As it is there's still too much compression going on. Just play with the ISO and image settings and it's still pretty good :P
[HTC One X] katamari201:
They really need to improve the software and encoding for both image and video capture. They are both worse than the competition. Their hardware seems capable enough, and this certainly has enough firepower, but it ain't being used right.

I'm not a photographer but I can tell a ****ty photo from a good one. I don't think they are very pleasing on this device. Older phones I've owned take much better photos. It's really sad that photo snobs come into a cellphone forum and riddle every post about the camera with IT"S NOT A DSLR IT"S A CAMERA-PHONE GO BUY A REAL CAMERA. Set the bar high much? We're comparing cellphone cameras. I don't see PC people coming in and crapping on browser and benchmark threads, saying IT"S NOT A PC BUY A REAL COMPUTER LULZ.

These cellphones are replacing point-and-shoot cameras. Those are REAL cameras BTW, and they are good enough. How many people actually own DSLRS? I don't even know any, nor know of anyone who would be caught dead with one, or pay the $500+ for a good one.

Downplaying the camera is also a good line for HTC apologists/fanboys.
[HTC One X] Try4Ce:
There are no real options on the stock camera app for shutter speed, only ISO. I am not that much of a noob when it comes to take photos, too.

Still, the stock camera app applies some heavy compression, washes out colors and sometimes produce oversharpening.

The lense and sensor in the One X seem pretty dope, and Camera Zoom FX shows it can capture some vibrant colors, even if it looks a little over exposured.

The One S on the other hand seems to take siginificantly better pictures. Alot less noise and richer colors, sharpness seems just fine, as well. Dunno why, but I guess it has something to do with the dedicated camera chipset within the One X, which is not featured in the One S.
[HTC One X] Diamondback:
Concerning the comparision between the One X and the One S.

Please keep in mind that the One S has a way higher vversion number already (1.68 iirc)

Our 1.26 is very low for a release device. Release firmwares are usually >1.3/1.4

Why do I tell you this? Because all HTC phones are buggy in the beginning, however they are (mostly) getting better with each update in almost anything (battery, camera, speed, radios, etc)

The One X seems to have quite some bugs which can be clearly categorized as "immature" software issues. I have no doubt HTC will adress them shortly.

Oh and does anyone know (aka can post a source) whether 3rd party apps can use the ImageSense chip? Becuase if not that explains quite a few issues with them ;)
[HTC One X] stanny2k:
This thread is really interesting me.

Ive just purchased camera zoom fx & I know exactly what you're talking about.

Today I'm going to spend a good hour taking photos of various things, so we have a wide comparison...

I do have a question, on camera zoom fx, how do I get the images bigger? They seem to be somewhat smaller on the screen compared to the standard HTC camera...?

Thanks