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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] randalltroy:
Well said.

I am starting the RMA for refund process as we speak.Unfortunately,I have alot of experience with Asus and RMA's.Not only is my performance horrible, mines has a manufacturing flaw, the gorilla glass is coming up.Multiple issues, is the key, and knowing what to say to CSR's>Gary or Asus_usa havent bothered to respond.

While they may get the Prime fixed.I totally expect more, its not like Asus sent me a tablet and gave me 6 months to pay for it, but, its the other way around.I sent my money to Asus, and given them time to find a fix that hasnt happened.I will still buy Asus motherboards and maybe even Video cards, but, not another tablet

Watch out, your post is going to draw the ire of a certain poster fanboi, who WILL report this post.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bklm1234:
I hope it's the scheduler issue and Asus is working on that. I don't mind tweaking my TFP. In fact, I've tried several ROMs and did the build.prop mod. I haven't tried AOKP yet. Although I enjoy tweaking my devices, the tweaking shouldn't be fixing things left by the manufacturer. It should be customizing the devices to my liking, gaining extra performance, not fixing it. Asus shouldn't get away with their own issues. The TFP just doesn't perform like a quad-core device.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Changing the scheduler doesn't fix the issue, it makes it less likely for the 'force close' message to show up, but it doesn't get rid of it.

The CFQ scheduler can also be used in the rooted stock rom, many people have been using it for months now. This is not a new discovery.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vatastala:
Hi randalltroy,

you say It's possible to start an RMA to have my money back? Even if my issues are related only to the lags? I don't understand if It's possible, but If yes I'll start It immediately.

I'm in Italy, I hope the refund works here too!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
1. The GPS feature was not taken out of Prime specification the 1st week after launch. It actually took 2 to 4 weeks for all that to happen (much longer on retail store websites & actual BOX of Prime). I bought mine at launch, so.. yes & I did purchase Prime to use GPS.

Yes, I understand it cost more to create a dongle over s/w fix. Except, since this is h/w issue, s/w fix doesn't even come to play. Asus advertised it & ppl like me bought it to USE IT. So yes, I & others who were looking forward to using the feature actually paid for it (just like all of you).

Also, about the unlock bootloader. Yes, Asus didn't say anything about unlock bootloader in Prime's specification. However, the company has made PR statements to SUPPORT OPEN COMMUNITY & in their device. So, Asus actually set themselves up...... unless you are okay with going back on their words constantly.

2. Just because Android devices from different manufacturers who had issues & simply ignored the issue doesn't mean I have to follow that standard. If I bought those devices with issues, I would have *****ed exactly the same way. Why set my standards low? And yes, this includes APPLE .. and iPhone 4 with antenna gate. Remember, even after Apple did issue extra case or whatever, they still got sued with class-action lawsuit and LOST.

Btw, there are also Android devices that didn't have all the crazy issues that Prime is facing, or the absolutely pathetic customer service.

3. Yes, avg. user doesn't follow XDA. However, I don't get your point. Just because avg. user doesn't follow XDA, that gives an excuse for Asus to simply ignore it?? Sure, it benefits & it makes more sense financially for Asus but that doesn't excuse Asus to ignore it nor do we have to accept it.

4. I have no idea how you got that perspective from Gary Key's last post, but that is your perspective so I won't say anything to that.

Edit: Btw, many of you are posting in a complaint/issue thread telling us that... "no, issues don't exist or just deal with it" kinda thing. I don't get it..... I don't go to positive thread & try to change your perspective... If you have a working device & are enjoying your experience with Prime... I REALLY AM GLAD FOR YOU.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
Decided to reflash, and this time i did not use titanium to restore some of my apps, accounts and wifi AP's and i wiped dalvik.

It looks more stable now, no SOD or reboots whole day... if its this way next 24h i know for sure that this fixed it somehow......

edit: and got my first SOD...

going for wookyrom
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] valentinrascu:
...i tryed to have my money back in italy...not possibile...

Inviato dal mio Transformer Prime TF201 con Tapatalk 2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] s1lenz:
I don't. I bought a launch prime that came with a white spot on the screen. Not a dead or bright pixel, light bleed in the middle of the screen. I sent it in for repair, Asus replaced the screen, sent it back with a NEW white spot on another side of the screen. I gave up on Asus RMA and ended up unlocking the Prime. My GPS is also non-existent.

I'm not trying to change your perspective, because you have the right to feel the way you do about your $500 purchase. Your points are extremely valid - you did pay good money and you should get everything you paid for.

All I'm trying to get you to understand is that Asus is not profiting off the XDA community and using devs to do their work. Nor are they the worst company in the world when it comes to addressing issues in a timely manner.

That's it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I'm pretty sure that the amount of complaints on XDA did not force Asus to do what they did lol...could it possibly be that they just wanted to admit a mistake and do the right thing?? I mean, I know things like that are hard to believe, but unless any of us have inside info, it's all just assumptions anyway. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] indie13:
Has anyone else noticed that Chrome seems better since yesterdays update?

Also there is specific mention of a prime crashing issue being fixed in the change log for Chrome!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] os2baba:
Not for me. It still sucks. On my Vibrant running CM9, it's very nice. But I'd like to use my tablet for browsing!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tsmt971@yahoo:
Google Chrome is running quite fast and stable on my Prime since a new update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] point_pt:
In mine too... somehow google bypass the firmware problem...

But i hate the way chrome show the pages... they look so... chunky... :confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rytkonen:
Updated the chrome then opened ebay.com and searched for something. When tried to scroll it got stuck again for like 5 seconds and the legendary dialog box was there again. This is so frustrating. If the next update does not solve this problem this is the last Asus device I buy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
Chrome has crashed numerous times for me since the update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] woodsonmh:
Because of some password breachs i decided to go ahead and buy the lastpass premium and get it for my 4 android devices. I started using browser inside lp. It is my opinion that is much much faster than other browsers. I havnt seen wait error, but its early in my testing. I had trouble playing a video stream so it may not replace stock browser for everything. I was wondering if anyone else had the same experience, and if so i wonder why.

Woody

Update

It does not do downloads. It is apparently a striped down browser of some ilk. Still seems fast and no wait box.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bait-Fish:
Now that .28 is out, what's your experience updating?

Being overly cautious, I uninstalled Browser2Ram, cold rebooted, soft reset, then allowed the .28 update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdynak:
same

Still getting not responding issues.. it is not fixed.. I powered down & cleared cache.. still happens.. in fact happened the very first time I opened a browser & turned to XDA after updating
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] malufor:
same here.

only fix i know: browser2ram. And yes, this worked for me for almost 3 weeks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jeff1192:
It`s not fixed...but it`s vastly improved for me. I would say that now it is a very rare occurrence for me whereas before the update it happened all the time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
For those still having the browser not responding issues, please follow the instructions listed on my thread shown below. The .29 update should finally resolve this for us, but in the meantime, this is reported to fix the issue until Asus can implement a permanent fix.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1690619
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalingrin:
FYI, I didn't see anything in the kernel changes in 9.4.2.28 that would fix or even help with this issue.

Is there any official word on .29?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
When Gary announced 28, he also mentioned that another update will come soon fixing the browser issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kingcrash:
For me the same.

It's not fixed yet, but it's a bit better.

Multi-tab browsing in Chrome now works (most of the time) with 3+ tabs without crashing every 2min.

Hopefully .29 brings more stability.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I/o & thread priority changes. so stock browser & games will run better with apps in background. wifi on during deep sleep battery improvements also. we already testing it now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
cool man! hopefully we'll get it soon, since on .28 browser is not so great :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
It is pathetic how HP Touchpad with CM Alpha 2 (not even nightlies.. not even overclocked) is better experience in browsing over Transformer Prime.

Using Google Chrome beta... the difference between HP Touchpad CM Alpha 2 build & Transformer Prime is night & day....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalingrin:
Yeah I agree. The I/O is about 4x faster on the HP TouchPad. I'm not sure if you're unlocked yet but you should give my CM9 build from the other day a try. It is in the CM9 thread on XDA towards the end. It's not as fast as the touchpad still but its getting there.

Btw, I definitely recommend using CM9 nightlies on the TouchPad rather than sticking with alpha2. We've made several improvements and there are more to come.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bunnybash:
The only thing that fixed my browser was browser2ram. I installed the update, rooted, and installed browser2ram. It makes the prime browsing experience what it should have been out of the box.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] js931:
I agree 100%! A big THANK YOU to the developer!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lineager:
Is it possible to have Chrome's browser2ram?

The stock browser with this works great.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Yup, flashed the latest nightly with audio fix last night. I avoided flashing Android to my HP Touchpad for the longest time simply because I like webOS & was playing around with webOS dev scene.

As for Transformer Prime... I am not looking to unlock & even root until Asus releases fully working NvFlash. But yea, it is really amazing what HP Touchpad can do compared to Transformer Prime....

Edit: Btw.. HP Touchpad with latest nightly is absolutely amazing... with Linaro included... it makes you wonder which one is the quad-core tablet....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kevinm2k:
Take it root is needed for this? Im on .28 without root :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bait-Fish:
Yes, root is required, however...

I understand .28 is rootable. Demandarin verified the report early on. BRB with a link...

Edit: This is said to root .28, DebugFS root by sparky.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Sparky new tool for rooting works on .21, .28, and this new build I'm testing, which is .28.5. Sparky tool very simple to use and works its magic fast. just make sure to use voodoo OTA rootkeeper to backup/save root once you get it root access again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] notoriouspk:
So how soon we can expect asus to fix browser not responding issue ..why wasnt it fixed in .28 update? Now do we have to wait another 3 months before asus can fix the browser isse..for a 500$ tab that was released almost 6 MONTHS back .....and yes on s2 no issues with browser what so ever ...by now u guys should know this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gremlin001:
Currently running .28 on 64 gig atp, rooted (thanks sparky), browser2cpu (thanks onionknight), Adaway (thanks to its dev), ezoverclock (thanks demandrin for suggesting it - dunno who the dev is but thanks as well).

Having "installed" or ran those pieces genius I can honestly say my prime has never run better. I am using the stock browser without any issues. Being retired gives me a lot of time to spend with my tab on web and I do.

I wanted to throw this info out there so that it is known some of us do have, altho not perfect, a well functioning and *very* usable Prime. Yes, it was a turd when I bought it but with reading, asking questions, and ignoring any nonconstructive whining, I was able to get my tab to this point. Yeah, I expect to get flamed for this but the point is if the energy that is expended in complaining over and over about the same things that we already know Asus knows about and spent it researching what the real talent here has accomplished ......... just saying ..... :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rytkonen:
I confirm that with the Browser2Ram this device is finally usable. What bothers me is the quality of Asus software and the fact that this is my first device which needed root and unofficial fixes to perform as it should.

All in all I am pretty satisfied now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cphil19:
So basically, you're forced to root this thing just to get a functioning browser.

That's absolutely pathetic. Never buying another Asus product as long as I live.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Everybody's situation is different, it's just the way the I/O schedule works, and what apps are installed/running. Asus needs to fine tune the I/O schedule to fix these issues. My browser was fine from day one, but now it's working MUCH better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
If only it was that simple for the last 6+ month....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
It's true, but we have to remember that all of our Primes have different apps running at any given time, and how the I/O schedule reacts to your apps compared to mine based on the 'importance of each app is different. So, while my Prime may be running optimal for me because of how my CPU is being used, yours may not etc.

Given the nature of Android and how ICS handles/allows multitasking, it's not an easy fix for Asus to make because as I stated above, my device may have apps that don't require as much CPU running in the background (background processes), while yours may. Asus has to fine a balance to get have the I/O scheduler running at optimal settings. So while it's easy for us to think that the fix should be easy, obviously it's not. Hopefully the newest update being tested can finally balance out this issue for all. it would be nice for Asus to be able to let a larger group of users test out the updates since not all Primes are running the same apps, but as Demandarin stated, with the amount of trolling going on here, etc, they decided to use a smaller test group.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Am a programmer.. I know how I/O scheduler works and etc. Anyways...

I do not believe I/O performance is specifically Asus issue..

There are enough inquiries from other Tegra 3 tablets with similar I/O performance & issue (just not as problematic & wide compared to Transformer Prime).....

As for I/O performance, it has nothing to do with ICS....

This is clearly between Asus & Nvidia....

Edit: Btw, while many of you recommend to install browser2ram & MRCANNADY's workaround and etc... & I understand it has been successful for some....

You should remember that you paid $500. Browser2ram... and etc is basically bottle-necking the RAM... MRCANNADY's proposal is basically asking you to drop multi-tasking and etc.... Basically, you paid $500 to limit your device & ICS to function similar to iPad......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
All, please review this thread-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1720143

Let's help Asus identify the issues instead of the constant complaining on the same problems. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] htcplussony:
I'm not sure how much that trend will help since I did factory data reset on .28.

The only thing I did afterwards was use the rocker volume to mute it, set the brightness to auto and went into android market with a don't back up/restore settings and only downloaded Adobe Flash with nothing else updated.

It can't get any clearer than that.

Edit. And I had to setup wifi and change the timezone.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
So you don't have ANY other apps installed on your Prime after factory resetting? Again, if you want, you can provide the info in the thread along with your running processes. it wont help to help right?

We are just trying to help Asus identity the key issues and any apps that are possible related to them They are not going to just read constant bickering. They already KNOW of the issues we are having, and we can not say that they have not been trying to fix them, but they cant seem to so far. I would rather assist then complain, that's all I am saying.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] htcplussony:
None except for what Asus ships with in the stock rom. Right now, I really just want to surf with as clean a tablet as possible.

What I listed was all I did for this specific factory reset.

EDIT I forgot one other thing. Android Market self updated itself.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thanks, I PM'd you
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
In the last 7 years that I have been using smartphones and tablets I have never seen one (with the exception of the iphone where jailbreaking does seem to introduce more issues than it fixes) that does not work better with a custom rom installed. Its a fact of life that every os or rom brought to you by a company trying to sell you their goods an services falls short of perfect. Workarounds are how things "work".

After rereading what I just wrote, that crap is going in my signature block.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
Fact is that the browser crashes an has big lagspikes and ANR messages. This means the browser is 'broken'.

Fact is that these messages appear in all kinds of apps. This means the tablet is 'broken'.

This has nothing to do with normal situations where people root and flash to get a snappier feeling and/or some extra features on their phone.

My tablet is snappy and stable right now, but it ain't on stock android! I pay a price for this: no more warranty.......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
While workarounds and custom ROMs are all good and all... you are forgetting one thing...

Custom ROMs are made from the "core" of stock, and they are built to extend & improve from the "stock" core. However.. with Prime.. the workarounds cripple h/w & Android OS.... & custom ROMs bring Prime to somewhat a "functional" tablet but still far below what PRIME should be, marketed as, and what the "specifications" indicate. And if "workarounds are how things work" for Android tablets... you are basically forecasting doom for Android in tablet market at least....

Btw, I/O scheduler isn't the only issue nor the most pressing issue either. I/O scheduler alone isn't going to magically resolve I/O disk write performance.. SQLite performance.. and etc. Better yet, if I/O scheduler was simply the reason... we could simply do "factory reset" & find the culprit by individually installing each app to replicate the "issue" or find which app causes such issue for each individual Prime.

We're all at the mercy of Asus & Nvidia. Unless.. if both parties wish to release all source code, kernel, and etc etc etc ... & including FULLY working NvFlash to the open community.

Btw, to the person who keeps saying "complaining & *****ing" isn't helpful to finding solution....

I wish to make a comment that constructive *****ing & complaining is one way of finding solution... however, in Prime's case.. it might be our only option & has been the most effective option.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
For me its a simple fact, I knew every one of the problems a prime can have before I got mine. I have been reading about the setbacks and issues since December.

I did my homework.

I got my prime in early may after reading this forum for 3 months. Nobody to blame and no whining to do.

Moving forward. Browser2ram makes stock browser completely usable, Opera makes even that unnecessary. I dont personally get anr in other apps beyond the ones I used to get in browser before b2r. If I did I might try some of the other workarounds used here.

If there is something you can do to make your tablet "snappy and stable" then the tablet is not broken. I feel only a little sympathy for people that have this tablet and are having problems. There was news of trouble before the first tablet hit the market in December. Everybody has a return policy.

I have to admit I was more snappy and stable before .28 but you roll the dice and take your chances with any new software.

By the way thanks for your valued inputs in many of these threads.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
For me it was almost the same , i bought the device knowing there were some issues , gps fot the most part but i didnt care. and its working now anyways with the dongle :thumbup::thumbup:

however keep in mind that browser2ram needs root. this is basically hacking the device with no guarantee this will work in future builds.

And with flashing kernels and roms you break warranty.

so untill asus makes fixes of its own the device to me is 'broken'
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
Yes, I agree to a point. I bought my HD2 that way 2 years ago among a ton of negative owners and have never had such an amazing device. I hope we get there with the prime but so far at least I am enjoying the ride. BTW I broke warranty right out of the box when I cracked it open to see why the wifi and gps were weak.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Peter Galbavy:
On the surface the poor performance appears to be the result of either poor hardware or bad mmc/sd drivers and doesn't appear to have any relation of I/O scheduling in the kernel. You can prioritise threads all you want but if your underlying "disk" is not returning from a write call or an fsync for 2 orders of magnitude longer than it should then you know there is something else wrong...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
True. Go check Androbench and do the micro test. Youll see whats the problem.... still not the cause unfortunally....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Restorer:
Just installed browser2ram and it really does speed things up. However, every reboot seems to wipe all the settings including bookmarks :eek:. Is this the way it is supposed to work or am I missing something?

EDIT: Just realised it wipes all the data connected with Google account so just have to re-sync. No big deal but would be nice to have a little control over say keeping bookmarks and cookies?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TransformerPrime:
Had that message on stock browser, dolphin and chrome.

Try the Opera Mobile. Haven't had that message since installed it a few days ago, especially no lag at all when scrolling the screen. The page loading may be a bit slower than chrome.

EDIT: my prime is just a stock one, c1 series, .21 update. The OM is just from the Play store. Settings for OM are mostly default except user agent i set it to desktop. Hope it helps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aznmode:
Can u post your apk. I don't know how many times I've tried opera mobile but its so choppy. I'm wondering if those that are having good experience are downloading another version. Its a free app so should be ok to post the apk