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[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Who now has over a thousand thanks. ;) I acknowledge the problems; pretty consistently actually. What I provide counter-point to is the melodrama that exists on this forum like none I've seen anywhere else on XDA. This thread's a fantastic example:

"You can't change the wallpaper and it overheats the phone" - You can, and it doesn't; at least on mine.

"The display's too bright in the dock to use it as a bedside alarm" - You can adjust the brightness on the phone itself.

So had I not stepped in people looking to purchase the dock wouldn't based on inaccurate comments. Sorry if you find that offensive. Like I said before, if people took the chips off their shoulders and asked questions rather than making baseless definitive statements this forum would actually be as helpful as others on XDA.
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
I love your "quotes" that aren't really quotes. Before criticising people for making invalid points, perhaps you should try reading those points properly before going on a crusade. Makes you look a bit stupid really.

Anyway, enough time wasted feeding you, troll.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
In the past 48 hours I took my CR-S650 dock to an AT&T store to see if it would fit the AT&T One X because people in their forum wanted to know. I FedEx'd a 16GB Nexus 7 to a One X developer in Beirut, Lebanon, so that he'd be able to pull some of the Tegra 3 drivers and codecs off it to advance the development of Jelly Bean on the One X. What have any of you that are calling me a "troll" done to help anyone on this forum but yourselves? And commiserating over problems and issues doesn’t count.
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
Zzzzz
[HTC One X] hanvie:
Will you guys stop spamming this thread with your personal argument now?

I'm getting pissed from receiving email notifications because of your completely useless postings. I subscribed this thread to get information about the dock. If you want to fight each other, please go away from here!
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
Agreed. Sorry about that. I was trying to give my opinion on the dock but immediately got mocked for doing so. I wish the mods were a bit more proactive about stopping this stuff.

Anyway I hope the information I provided was useful. In my opinion, it's an OK dock with major flaws (mostly down to the dock mode) . If you need any more info just ask.
[HTC One X] hanvie:
It's just opinions here. No need to call anyone a troll. I found Barry's posting to be helpful and I am also thankful for any other people sharing their experiences like you. Facts are:

- He said that he had no buzzing when he sets the phone to max. volume and adjusts the volume using the dock. This is not perfect, but seems to be a solution to problems people have reported. It would be helpful and constructive of these people to try it and tell us if he was right or not.

- He says he doesn't have problems with overheating. You can believe it or not, I don't see why he should lie about that. I don't see why you should lie, either. The question here should now be why you have this problem and he doesn't. Maybe something's wrong with your phone or your dock. We don't know. No reason to start an argument, though.

- He explains what options you have for the behaviour of the phone when it's placed in the dock. I consider this helpful.

- He is obviously satisfied with the ability to connect bluetooth headphones. I don't own any, so I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of a plug for cable headphones. But I'm not angry because he is satisfied.

- He says that he agrees with people who wrote that the plastic insert is not good. He avoids problems by being careful when using the buttons. I guess when I get the dock (still no availability in germany :(), I will try using double-sided sticky tape to stick it to the dock. He is not defending the insert, he just describes his way to overcome the problem and that it doesn't bother him too much.

- He obviously didn't understand your problems with the phone buttons lit at night. If the problem had been the display brightness itself, I wouldn't have considered dimming the display before putting it into the dock a good solution either, because it requires manual actions and is rather inconvenient. However, you could automate this using Tasker or similar apps. Maybe you should give it a try. It doesn't make the dock better (I agree that permanent screen-on and buttons-on is not well designed), but it may make it more useful for your purposes.

So he's not really trolling anyone here and he is right: a person with more than 1000 thanks can't be just an annoying troll. He implied that you didn't know how to change the wallpaper and he didn't understand that your main problem at night are the buttons, not the display. One could just assume good intentions and clarify these points without arguing.

That's it from my side...

Does anyone know when the dock will be available in Germany?
[HTC One X] stepster:
I'm probably missing something really obvious here, but the most annoying thing I've found with th dock is that every time I drop my phone in the dock, or lift it out, it plays my default ringtone! It's very irritating. Anyone know how to turn this 'feature' off or at least change the tone used?

On several occasions I've also found the phone stops charging at 69% in the dock.
[HTC One X] Gulioth:
Here here, well said fella!

I *think* I saw on another forum that Germany was expecting the dock mid August but could just be a pie in the sky estimation!

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
Oooh that's odd. You shouldn't get a ring tone. I can't think what might be causing that. Are you on a stock HTC ROM? Do you have any unusual apps relating to power or battery (battery saving apps for example).

With the 69% charge issue. Are you seeing getting any flashing of the notification light (flashing orange and green), or any messages in the notification bar?
[HTC One X] stepster:
No, nothing unusual. It's a stock device. No battery saving apps, no power management apps, really nothing that exotic. When I pop the phone onto the cradle, the phone does seem momentarily very unhappy and gives me a blast of ringtone. And then again when I remove it. Maybe I'll issue a support request to HTC.

Yes, a rapid orange/green followed by a pause, then it repeats. This morning it made it up to 71% and was *very* warm! Removed from the dock (blast of ringtone) plugged in the USB charger (which really defeats the whole point!) and it charged upto 100%.

Something isn't right!
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
The flashing inidicator shows that the phone overheating and is halting charging to prevent damage. I have the same issue. If it is happening while you are in dock mode, try changing the dock wallpaper to a static image. You do this by touching and holding on the wallpaper. My phone overheats like mad when the weather wallpaper is enabled. It's strange because I can stream video with BBC iPlayer and it doesn't overheat. The live wallpaper and dock mode combination seems to hammer the processor.

Afraid I can't help with the other issue, but a support call sounds like a good idea.
[HTC One X] stepster:
Oh, that's insteresting. I also had the weather wallpaper. No changed, so hopefully that's the charging/heating problem taken care of.

But presumably your phone makes some noise when you dock/un-dock? I wonder how/where this is set? Hopefully support will be able to help although their response for most problems is - reset the phone! Not something I do lightly as I have it setup as I like now :)
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
No, mine doesn't make any noise at all when it gets docked. I've had a good look through the settings and can't find anything relating to dock mode notifications. Does it happen immediately or does it take a few seconds to start? If there is a delay it would indicate the dock app is triggering the sound. If immediate it would indicate a system notification.

One suggestion would be to try reapplying a complete sound set to see if that clears it. HTC hub servers seem to be down at the moment but you could try and download and apply a sound set with that. You could also try to apply an existing sound set through settings, personalisation, and sound.
[HTC One X] hanvie:
For anyone in Germany:

I ordered at Computeruniverse last week, as their website showed it would be available within 3-5 work days. On Monday I got an email stating they were expecting it the same day, but when I called them yesterday they told me their supplier couldn't hold the date. Now they expect it for tomorrow.

Some german online shops now show the dock being in stock, but I don't know if you can trust that information. However, seems like it won't take long until it is finally available.
[HTC One X] 1earful:
my dock arrived today from handtec. so far it seems to work fine. my one x in the dock-specific case fits well. the sound is quite good. usually i play caballe singing bel canto because a really bad speaker can't handle the range and will crackle at some point. i did not max out the sound as i would never listen that loud anyway, but i was certainly happy with output.

i then tried setting an alarm (which, to be honest, i had never done with my phone). worked fine. looks like my ipod and jbl will be making way for something smaller that fits better on my bedside table.

the hox does feel quite warm after playing music for awhile, etc., but it gets a bit warm doing that without the dock.

probably the worst aspect for me is that the dock reverts to the stock music player. this means some of the huge lossless files i was too lazy to convert to smaller mp3s won't play. oh, well, i knew i should have converted them anyway.

i have not tried playing movies/video. i don't have any on my phone and don't expect to have any in the future. so sorry no feedback there.

i first ordered in april. was it worth the wait? we'll see. but so far things look good.
[HTC One X] hanvie:
Mine arrived yesterday, too. Didn't have much time to try it out due to working until after midnight, but I also noted that there seems to be no way to change the dock screen by adding/removing widgets, so only stock player is available?

As you can also let the phone start an app automatically when it enters dock mode: Is there a dock screen app which could replace the HTC dock screen and offers more customization?

I also noted that the inlay for phones without case is a bit loose - they could have made something that is firmly clipped for that price. I will probably stick it on the dock with two-sided tape.
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
Great idea. I've been looking around the house for super-glue but I think I'll buy some double sided tape instead.
[HTC One X] hanvie:
Just make sure it's a thin one and not too sticky so you can still remove it in case you want to sell the dock in the future.
[HTC One X] 1earful:
small update. i did notice a bit of crackling when i switched to power amp instead of the stock music player - not while music was playing, but once there was no music coming from the dock. i decided it wasn't much different than the phenomenon of the sound emanating from the old turntables when the record kept spinning after the music ended and the arm/needle wasn't removed. probably most here are too young to remember those days. but they really did exist. :D

last night i tried leaving the phone in dock mode with the display on all night. the phone really got warm then. perhaps a nice improvement would be being able to set the phone display in dock mode to come on at a specific time.
[HTC One X] hanvie:
Okay, I found some time to test the dock yesterday. In summary, I'm not really satisfied with it and thinking about sending it back. The reasons:

phone overheating (red/green LED flashing) and therefore not charging fully, at least with weather wallpaper

phone gets hot within minutes also with lava live wallpaper

Sometimes speakers don't work and I have to adjust the phone a little bit, although it recognized the dock and entered dock mode. This is probably due to dirty contacts, but I would at least like to be able to notice it when i place the phone in the dock.

I made a phone call and I could hear the callee, but she couldn't hear me.

Additionally, there are some drawbacks that don't bother me too much, but they add to the bad experience:

the inlay sits loose

no customization of dock screen

shape and position of volume buttons: you have to pay attention to hit them properly

to remove the phone, you have to fumble around with it, because there's no gap at the top of the recess that would make it easy to lift the phone - bad design

So far, from my experience I cannot recommend buying the dock, not for 60 Euro. I still hope some third party will come up with something better soon, although I fear that the (over)heating problem is caused by the method of charging using the pogo pins in general and not specifically by the dock.

Is there anyone here whose phone does not get hot at all when it is docked? I know there are people without overheating problems, but what about temperature in general? My phone fell on the ground two months ago, can the heat be caused by that?
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
I agree with most of your assessment. The fumbling around to remove the phone from the dock is familiar. Why didn't they design it better? Seemingly small design changes would make this dock superb.

Your sound problem is almost certainly caused by dirty contact contacts though. I don't get this problem - I use a pouch to keep the phone clean. Also, do you find the volume controls respond bizzarely, where quickly pressing the volume buttons does nothing and holding the volume buttons has a delayed reaction making it difficult to control?

You need to disable to live wallpaper completely to avoid overheating. Use a static image. Live wallpapers seem not to be designed with power efficiency in mind. Mine doesn't overheat when live wallpaper is disabled. There should be no difference in charging between a 1 amp USB charger and the pogo pins (they probably go through exactly the same circuit wiring).
[HTC One X] hanvie:
Maybe, but I also use a pouch. They don't really look dirty, either. But I could try cleaning them when I find some time.

Yes, I just tried it and can confirm your description.

Okay, I so far this seems to help. But I never got overheating problems when I used a live wallpaper and charged the phone with USB. I assume this is because the screen turns off then but it is only dimmed in the dock.
[HTC One X] 1earful:
i wonder whether there is a software fix possible for at least some of the dock issues, since you can to some extent program the phone's "actions" in dock mode from the settings menu, as in choosing to keep the display on constantly or setting it to dim after a specified number of hours. last night i set it to dim after 4 hours and this morning the phone displayed no heating issues. for those wanting to use it as a bedside clock/alarm clock, however, this could pose a problem, so i would really like to see a program where you can set it to wake at a specified time, with or without your wake up alarm enabled.

the issue with physically placing and then removing the phone from the dock is a minor downside for me, as for years i have fumbled with aligning various ipods correctly in speaker docks so they sit correctly. much more annoying than positioning the one x in its dock, as i was always afraid of somehow damaging the ipod connector area by unwittingly misaligning and then pushing down too hard.
[HTC One X] Orca74:
Hi all,

i got my cradle today. I put my phone on it and nothing worked. No charging, no speaker or so.

I'm on ParanoidAndroid JB 1.95. Does this cradle only work with stock ROM?

Thx for ur answer

Orca74
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
It should at least charge, even when turned off. Sounds like a defective dock or phone.
[HTC One X] Orca74:
Thanx for your reply.

After my post, i thought it have to charge when phone is off. So i turned my HoX off and put it onto the cradle, but nothing changed. I'll return my cradle to Expansys.

Orca74
[HTC One X] deviant82:
Does anyone elses CR S650 seem to just make the phone really hot and not much else??? Mine doesn't seem to charge, at best it just retains the amount of charge already in the battery.....:(
[HTC One X] eduardo1969:
Put a thin piece of wire on the dock with transparent tape at the bottom ( where the back of the phone lays ) Lay the thin wire over the dock ..

Now you can easily pull out your phone with the wire ...
[HTC One X] 99RedB:
Mine turned up today, and with the official hard shell (HC C704) it fits nicely and isn't hard to remove (it's harder to put in just right than remove it).

I've also had the crackles/interference that others have reported, but after cleaning the contacts on the phone (a bit of IPA and light rubbing with a pin) the noise is gone. I don't have a problem with the phone getting hot, but I've set Tasker to turn the screen off which no doubt helps.

Finally, I'm quite impressed with the quality of the speaker. It may not be audiophile quality, but it's clear and loud enough for me.
[HTC One X] akhil8377:
I received mine couple of days back and I am TOO pleased with what I see. It works perfectly the way it is suppose to work.. I am very happy with this product. Sound qaulity is good for personal speakers..no buzzing sound or any other shortcoming as reported by few members in this forum. Just wish there was a easy way to take out phone from dock.....!!
[HTC One X] hanvie:
I received an OTA system update a couple of days ago and my impression is they changed the phone's behavior in the dock. There's hardly any buzzing now when I put it in the dock and the screen turns off after the usual time limit set for normal mode has elapsed. It does not get hot at all now and I wonder if this is only because of the screen turned off.

Did anyone else notice these or other changes with the last update? I'm on Android 4.0.4, Sense 4.1, and "Software number" (whatever that is) 2.17.401.2 now. Actually I would like to have the screen stay on in dock mode and just dimmed, like it was before, because the power button is so hard to reach when docked. I don't see any option for this, so I guess I'll have to set a profile in tasker to do this.
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
The buzzing sound had been bothering me the last few days. It wasn't noticeable initially. It happened in bursts every 10 seconds or so. Seeing as I didn't have any cleaning solution I used a little white rum on a cotton bud and wiped it straight off. Since then, the buzzing noise is completely gone!
[HTC One X] ikuze:
There is a setting like "don't turn off the screen while charging" (Display settings, third one)

Does this work?
[HTC One X] hanvie:
Yes, it does. But when I'm on a trip and I charge the phone with the power unit I don't want the screen to stay on, so I'll still have to use Tasker to change the behavior depending on dock status.
[HTC One X] EdwardLotz:
ThOught I would check the dock out. Amazon here in the states had the doc for 30 dollars plus 6 shipping there abouts. I hope it works.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Good luck, I wouldn't be surprised if you're getting the dock for the One XL (sold as One X in the US market), which I understand has the pogo pins in a slightly different position.
[HTC One X] EdwardLotz:
I hope not but will see. Looks like it is shipping from the pacific rim area to the states. So not amazon themself but a third party supplier. Si I am much more hopeful now.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Ah, you're probably fine then. Always forget the third party sellers.

Let us know how it goes when it arrives, and also what power supply you get with it...
[HTC One X] Willieumm:
18-26 days shipping only, eww!
[HTC One X] jonshipman:
Yeah mine shipped last night, should arrive Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - Tuesday, October 2, 2012. Oh well, everyone else kept pushing back the ship date, and this is nice and cheap. Hopefully it's an official one.
[HTC One X] rrl3@swbell.net:
I ordered from them about a month ago and received my dock in less than two weeks despite the long shipping time stated. It comes with a UK plug and no U.S. adapter. Fortunately I had one. Works good too especially after the 4.04 update from HTC
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Just spotted something interesting. Way back in April, I was told by a retailer that "A different dock is to be released at some point, the CR-S700".

I mentioned it as a rumor earlier in this thread, but I've never heard anything else about a CR-S700 dock... until today, that is.

I wanted to take another quick look at the CR-S650 before deciding whether to buy, as $30 is probably worth it to me just for the convenience factor of charging without plugging in cables. So I googled for a pic to refresh my memory as to what kind of power connector the dock used, and saw the following pic:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YwmP6BnNE4A/UACXeKajRXI/AAAAAAAASR4/hkCG3bwg19k/s1600/crs650.jpg

Note the user manual title: HTC CR S650 / CR S700 Speaker Dock User Guide".

Iiiiiinteresting. Anybody who's got the manual, does it state how the S650 and S700 differ? If not, is there anything you can see in the manual that doesn't apply to your phone?

Could be it's just a variant for the different pogo pin positioning of the One XL, but it could also be there's a more important difference: external speaker connectivity, perhaps. It strikes me as curious that there is basically no info at all on this model number anywhere...

---------- Post added at 02:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:54 PM ----------

...and incidentally, a question for those who bought the dock from the link here: what is the charger cable like? It doesn't look like a Mini or Micro USB to me at the dock end, am I correct in thinking it is proprietary (or rather, not a standard USB cable of any kind)?

What about the other end--is the power brick permanently attached to the cable, or what kind of connector does it use? I'm hoping USB, so I can just use one of my existing chargers instead of a huge UK plug that will need an adapter and cover three outlets on my power strip, but I don't want to assume.
[HTC One X] AndyLeJizm:
Gettin this baby shipped tomorrow, can't wait! :victory:
[HTC One X] akhil8377:
Interesting...find... never noticed that manual does have CR S650/ S700 mentioned. There is nothing in manual about S700. Whole manual is only few pages. It seems bulky because of all languages it has. S700 must be for One XL.

Regarding your other points... yes it does have proprietary pins at dock end.. so phone can go in special dock mode screen. Dock mode screen is good.. It is similar to HTC Car dock which also has prorietary pins so phone goes into car dock screen. I believe even both of these pins are different as two different applications are launched..

Other end is permanently attached to the cable, so you wont be able to use some other cable for this, however I do believe (not tested) you should be able to use any other USB cable in the dock, however it will not launch dock mode in that case. My assumption is based on the fact that phone's micro usb port is able to take all these different cables directly (standard usb cable, car dock cable, dock cable) so dock should also be able to take normal usb cable.
[HTC One X] familyhousing:
Hi, the charger is an HTC Flyer (Evo View 4G in the US) charger. It is moulded into the plug on one end and has a propietry connector on the other (I think it is called EXT-USB). Micro USB fits too and I have just tested with a 1Amp USB battery pack and it worked fine. It will work fully with any 1Amp micro USB but it will charge slower than with the EXT-USB charger.
[HTC One X] robstunner:
So a normal micro USB will fit? That's great news for me as id need an us adapter. I bought my dock from htcpedia and while more expensive than the Amazon link I will get it tomorrow and I have a feeling htcpedia customer support might be much better should there be any problems.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Thanks for the info, all! Maybe it's time to finally pick one or two of these up, then... Not going into dock mode would be an advantage, if you ask me. ;)