yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] kdm212:
i kinda figured out my problem. i have the skyrocket and i had to flash the att kernel to make the csreen auto-rotate correctly. when i did that i lost the wifi sharing. any suggestion?

current setup:

this rom

blaze radios

att kernel

any help would be great!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Phantisy:
Works for me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Talking about underclockin my phone was set to 9xx somthing no wonder it was kinda slow compared to when I flashed 3.4 I think it was set to max when I flashed but a didnt touch it at all. I just happen to check today and realize it was so low. Lol and let me tell u im lovin my speedy Gonzalez now lmfao.....:D:D:D:D:)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jiovaxrs:
My god never had a speed test @ 23mb i do the test like 10 time and the lowest was 20mb.... asome asome... And the pin about 70 and 65

---------- Post added at 12:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:55 AM ----------

In san juan puerto rico
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] edshawn911:
pull down menu

Hey, does anyone have a problem that there is no clear button in the pull down menu?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Phantisy:
I do not have that problem.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AndroidNoober:
Really? im from san juan and never have that only 8 mb
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jiovaxrs:
In the mcdonald front of ziperle.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Change the status bar alittle...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jiovaxrs:
Hey russiandroid can i have the stock icons for the tw launcher?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
I dont have em...but u can find em easy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DirtyIno:
U guys are lucky, I barely get 3mb in guaynabo. What radio u guys using?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AndroidNoober:
I work in telemundo closed to you.... Hmmm wierd
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AndroidNoober:
Blaze one
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mightymike889:
I was just going to try this out ...but ill wait till the update Russian said he's going to make the battery better
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] trypt4mine:
For the premium email force closes, try installing the social hub app again. Should fix it.

Oh and snsaccounts.apk
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] novanosis85:
Now that's what I like seeing. The two tone is much appealing to the eyes. Let us know when you update it. Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Soon my friend soon..prob tonite or tomorrow
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Z-Man™:
Does the lockscreen have the missed call and txt sliders on this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Yes it does
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Slickmod 3.6 rc2 TOMORROW .....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Phantisy:
Is there anyway to make it so when listing to music through google music we can hold the volume up/down to change songs? This is something I used before on my old phone with ROMS but the SGII ROMS I have tried do not have this.

Thanks :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Z-Man™:
Is it possible to make the clock blue to match the theme?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sarkhan777:
Good job!

Why still no release of ICS for tmob s 2?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
It will be blue in today's update

Don't be scared of the thanks button.

Sent from my brain.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] galaxys2noobs:
How about the theming of the calculator? It's too green haha planning on theming that too??? Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] brentsalinas714:
The only thing difference is the blue theme on this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mightymike889:
I like it can u make the color of the clock blue too?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mightymike889:
N the icon for the alarm clock wen its activated?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] trypt4mine:
Why not man lol I added it in 3.4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Lol no I know...I ment to say there is
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Skora budet :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Battery is gonna be amazing in next update... yall wont believe it.. Best ROM ever...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
Battery percent mod

Made a battery percent mod for 3.5, i attached a zip to flash back to stock SM also
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
Can you post a screen? I have 2 mods already in the second post.

Don't be scared of the thanks button.

Sent from my brain.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
Sorry about that I didn't realize that guess I should have read both posts thoroughly
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
No need to be sorry.

Don't be scared of the thanks button.

Sent from my brain.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] EegoGenre:
Patiently waiting on thr update.. I keep refreshing... lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Go back to s2 forum/Android developent/touch slickmod.and leave it pressed and ull see notifications. Select the one u prefer ...lol that way u kno when theres a new post.lol good luck
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Sorry guys no update till tomorrow..we havin a little problem..and I wanna make sure everything works perfect..

I
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] oniddy:
Waiting patienly :eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
u wont be disapointed.. It will be worth it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] EegoGenre:
Damn.. That's not bad battery at all!!! Can't wait for the release.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
I think we figured out the problem. Just waiting for the computer to free up. Battery is sick. Well worth the wait.

Don't be scared of the thanks button.

Sent from my brain.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] galaxys2noobs:
Is the calculator themed to stock version or blue? Or is it still lime green
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
There is u answer
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xxKamikazexx:
Ay wey!.!!

That's like, close to impossible lol

Just whoa
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] CLopez92868:
Waiting patiently for 3.6!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] danterakin:
How do I get the social hub application?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] EegoGenre:
Still patiently waiting... lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
Tonight. I know it's over due.

Don't be scared of the thanks button.

Sent from my brain.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] MatrimCauthon:
Glad to hear.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] EegoGenre:
Still coming tonight?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] MS_Guru:
That file host suxs!!! Any chance you could put some mirrors up? Maybe MediaFire, MegaShare, etc??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] CLopez92868:
+1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Question here??? So when can we expect a ics slickMOD... just curious... :confused::confused::confused::confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] MatrimCauthon:
Seems like the devs must of been booked in jail?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Yeah locked up with ure baby mama :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Master&Slave™:
I got a feeling that he doesnt want to use a skyrocket port

Still to many issues at the moment
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Phantisy:
Could you look into adding the option to reboot and take a screen shot from the power button menu when you hold it to shut down please?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Like what????
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
To be honest perfection one looks kinda stable..

Ill add power menu in update after that one..im just very busy with work right now

I was gonna upload it last nite but i had problem with my computer
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
I been reading alot of perfection post.. And yea it looks like there aint many bugs... Cant wait for slick ics
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] trypt4mine:
This exactly. I would like to step back into developing once ICS is more stable for this phone. From trolling the forums (lol) I noticed lots of people that are unhappy with call issues etc.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] aznarth:
When in 3.6 coming out? I want it sooooo bad
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Same here
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] oniddy:
Let them take their time so it will b stable :cool: then we all could enjoy a awesome rom :eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Yall know,it worhth the wait always
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
People of the earth...the update is comin soon...

Between work ..shearin computer....and my exgf drivin me crazy..its really hard to get **** done

But at the end its all gonna be worth it...

Thank you..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] trypt4mine:
No worries man, nice to still see development on this rom. Keep up the good work!! And remember life comes first, this is a hobby ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Yeah but i love this hobby :)....

I really think about swithin kernel to v2...its about to be public..and that experia launcher is awesome..and then we can jump to ics

Didnt t989 havin update this week to ics?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
No that was T-Mobile UK

Sent from my brain
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Ohh wow ofcourse everybody before us...i dont get it..

I dont really even care about ics..still dont get whats all the hype..i feels like i had ics 100 times already
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Lmfao!!!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Sup ppls.. Hows ROM around the globe doin.... Gotta keep movin fast...... Slick fast . Yall kno how it is...keep it up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Ill upload update tonite :))

It will be last one till ics drops...but i have bunch of themes just so we wont be bored..i really want this rom to have alotvof diffrient looks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] danterakin:
I can't wait!!! Do you have a theme just Black and White? I think that'd be cool. Thanks a lot for your hard work man!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
As usual if you need anything just ask.

Sent from my brain
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
Thx man...im glad i can always count on u man.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ELTORO02:
Wish u knew more bout modding/theming to help Man really would like that but hey count me in.. Just in
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] EegoGenre:
Is it being updated today?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] russianDroid:
u mean u wish u knew :) ?
[HTC Titan] domainame:
any one can help me to root this HTC TITAN II

tks
[HTC Titan] nocloo:
oups ...

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[HTC Titan] GuestK00161:
I am guessing you are a little new to Windows Phone right? Rooting is only done on Android devices.

Now to answer your question ...there are three levels of unlocking standards for WP. -I will post a link from the WP thread explaining these level of unlocks entirely when I am not busy.

http://forums.wpcentral.com/titan/189096.htm

A short a sweet version is (1) The Developer Unlock (2) The Interop Unlock (3) The God Mode Unlock -Full Unlock

As of right now, the Titan, Titan 2, - and any second gen HTC WP device is only able to do the developer unlock at the moment. -Developer unlocks can only side load apps. In order for us to have a custom ROM we must have an unlocked bootloader. -Which is also not currently available for our phones just yet.

Alrighty then, now you have a little understanding of what we can/can't do just yet. Tune in and be patient and we might get something soon.
[HTC Titan] dragonide:
Actually there is a Root Unlock on Windows Phone, between your (2) and (3)
[HTC Titan] GuestK00161:
Right...yea my bad...
[HTC Titan] Hiyatsu:
any of these levels involve unlocking for different sim carriers?
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Nope! That's a separate sort of unlocking I'm afraid. You might need unlock codes to carrier unlock.
[HTC Titan] lantern20:
So, what options for dev unlock titan 2?

Thanks
[HTC Titan] GuestK00161:
To Dev unlock...for free...you have to be a student, otherwise if not a student you have to pay 99$ to dev unlock your phone.

this thread should help you out.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1569119
[HTC Titan] foxbat121:
$99 is not just unlock your phone. You get to publish apps you wrote and unlock up to 5 phones.
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Also may I add that $99 is not one-off. It is $99 per year.
[HTC Titan] foxbat121:
The bottom line is if you are not going to publish apps, there is no reason to spend that $99/yr. Dev unlock only gives you ability to side load apps. That's about it.
[HTC Titan] lantern20:
Too bad, there are several apps that I would like to be able to side-load. But that is not worth $99 annually.

Thanks
[HTC Titan] PROGUERAM:
if I buy a Titan II from the US, can i use it in India and flash a current/latest custom ROMs?
[HTC Titan] AndyFZ1S:
From my experience with a Titan 2 there is no way to install a custom ROM or even a Stock ROM, They were only ever released for AT&T and although you can unlock them for use on other carriers you will be stuck with AT&T setings and not be able to use MMS,

At least that was what I found out earlier in the Year when I purchased one from USA,

Best of luck.
[HTC Titan] bitbrat:
Not completely accurate -

there is one stock ROM around for the Titan II - I haven't tried it, but there you are - no one has reported back after flashing it to say if it is useful....

If you carrier unlock a Titan II and take it somewhere else it will depend if the carrier you use has the same frequencies as AT&T, and also whether the HTC connections app can help you out. The app is designed to facilitate use of HTC phones on other carriers by trying to set up the connection specs for you. I don't know how effective it is, I'm on AT&T.....

So there you go....
[HTC Titan] berrywr:
You are correct! Thanks to the HTC Titan II, I made absolutely sure that when I bought another device it was the Titan I, not the Titan II despite it's better camera and LTE. I'm eyeballing one of the Windows Phone 8 models but I'm saying to myself if Microsoft and carriers have perfected making the Titan II bootloader unlockable then what will the future bring. Windows Phone 7 should have been what Windows Phone 8 is and I'm hoping with the formal release of Windows Phone 7.8 in early 2013 there will be more substance to the release than just the customized tile display; I mean for Christ's sake if that is all there is to it then release it to Windows Phone 7 devices. That said, I'm hoping what is released will allow us to run programs like Skype in background.
[HTC EVO 3D] herousr:
Does anyone know of any updates to the camera driver. I know they got some version of it working somehow with a green tint. I was just wondering if there was any other developments since then? Even if they are minimal I'm more curious then trying to bother anyone. So anyone know anything more?
[HTC EVO 3D] herousr:
Where did you hear that?
[HTC EVO 3D] JDx89:
HTC said evo 3d is getting the ics upgrade later this year. Who knows when that will be
[Acer Iconia Tab A100] utctigers:
Does any know if this will work on a rooted a100 with ICS running flex reaper but with stock boot img, market is saying that it's not compatible, but my tab shows as a a500. Thanks
[Acer Iconia Tab A100] Theonew:
It does work.
[Acer Iconia Tab A100] utctigers:
How can i get the apk if the market is showing that it isn't compatible also can a remote from outside my network(remoting from tab that being tethered by droid 3)?

Thanks
[Acer Iconia Tab A100] Theonew:
There are methods to acquire it. Lucky thing I had mine backed up :D. Anyways, no, you need to be on the same network as the PC.
[Acer Iconia Tab A100] pintek:
I've wondered myself about splashtop HD though I have the standard version cause i couldn't get compatibility on the marketplace for HD but the standard version works sooooo much better then the other methods i've tried I can watch hulu from my tab thats on my computer :D!!!!!
[Acer Iconia Tab A100] mistergreen:
With the normal version you can be outside your network if you link your home pc and tablet/phone with your google account. It states it will be free for a limited time only though. I've been able to access my computer in MI when I was in TX.
[Acer Iconia Tab A100] benpwarner:
Splashtop HD works fine with the A100 but it isn't meant for any tablet under 8 inches at least thats what the splashtop tech guy told me
[TouchPad General] jhoffy22:
Here's what happens. After loading moboot and selecting to boot into cyanogen, I get taken to this screen and it stays stuck loading.

What are my solutions?
[TouchPad General] dung8604:
Yeah, I've been wondering this too. Its not like you can do a battery pull...
[TouchPad General] spunker88:
Did this happen after you flashed a new ROM or just randomly? Can you still boot into CWM? If so you should be able to fix it somehow. Worst case you could wipe data/factory reset and flash a new ROM. Or if you have a nandroid backup just restore it. If you can't get into CWM you could try ACMEInstaller.
[TouchPad General] mkosem:
Assumimg you just flashed it, and did so after wiping system or with a fresh system partition, try flashing the from a second time in cwm. Most of the recent CM9 builds need to be double flashed if system is empty.

--Matt
[HTC EVO 3D] ICez0r:
Hello all,

I've followed all the instructions for unlocking the bootloader for the GSM version from here. But I have a problem when I'm trying to install CWM. When I flash recovery image from the rom manager appmenu I get the following error: "an error occurred while trying to run privileged commands. I have hboot 1.49.0018, and people have confirmed this method works for my version.

Can somebody help me please?
[HTC EVO 3D] 1ackass:
Here is a link that might help:http://androidforums.com/droid-all-things-root/57131-problem-rom-manager-premium-permissions.html
[HTC EVO 3D] ICez0r:
Thanks for the reply. I've got it working using Revolutionary custom CWM.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] VolcyDX:
Hey guys! I have searched all over the forums and haven't found answer. I have a Tf101 B60 running the latest ICS OTA build (US). I have rooted using ViperMod and that went well. Installed OTA rootkeeper. I installed CWR from Rom Manager and when I reboot holding volume down and power button, then volume up I just get the Android symbol with a red sign. Nothing else comes up. I'm sure I am missing something but have yet to find it searching the forums. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer General] baseballfanz:
Use RecoveryInstaller to install CWM recovery. I would stay away from ROM manager for now.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] hapahopi:
I have 2 B60s and use BRK's root toolkit and Rogue CWM. They both have NVflash to root and install CWM respectively. Search for these here.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] VolcyDX:
That did the trick, thanks! I installed the newest version of Revolution (ran superscript wipe full, then the rom. All my apps are still there. Is it ok that the data partition wasn't wiped?
[HD2 General] Tajana88:
SPL:1.66.000 XE

OS:5.2.(21869.5.0.82)

ROM:1.72.841.0(WWE Telstra)

RADIO:2.07.51.22_2

Before you start look,read,search rage i did nothing so far has worked for me

ex:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=881958

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=733649

Any help would be appreciated...It sucks when your late to the party

Cheers

Taj
[HD2 General] Tester30:
Don't really understand what you're asking for and what your references are..

What are you running now?? Windows 6.5?? Original ROM??

All you need to do to install NAND Android is:

1. Download the ROM of your choice, either ICS or GB (I think those are more

stable now then ICS, but it is JMO).

2. Download and install HD2 Toolkit.

3. Read and understand requirements for flushing you specific ROM (Usually comes

in ROM thread 2nd or 3rd post).

4. Flush the ROM.

5. Live happily ever after!!!!:D

Hope it helps.......
[HD2 General] Tajana88:
thank you...yeah i got it all used ICS....will look into GB a bit more

Cheers

Taj
[HTC Rezound] tcarave:
hi all..just got my rezound last week updated from droid x..loving phone so far but have a few questions..im currently on the leak ics rooted amon ra rec.and running clean rom 4.3.. my questions are..

1..when i mount the sd cards i have the internal and external sd..is it normal to have the ext sd folder in the internal sd..i tried deleting folder and comes back..the reason for my question is i was deleting apps and deleted something i shouldnt have so i booted into recovery wiped cach,dalvik,and internal so i could reflash the rom but didnt wipe data cuz wanted to keep my files i had on there..good thing cuz i did that and then my ext sd was wiped..so got back in mounted sd put rom back and just flashed in recovery but is it normal..

2..next is being im on the leaked ics..if i flash the sysver fix that resets to1.00 whatever can i then safely flas a gb rom?i know i cant do a gb ruu because of updated firmware..and if i can flash a gb rom do i keep the kernel im on or is it ok to flash whatever kernel the rom dev recommends..

3..lastly on my old dx if i screwed something up bad enough and couldnt get back into os i could sbf which would bring me back to factory settings like flashing a ruu..can this be done on the rez from a pc if i screwed up and couldnt get into rom or if the ext sd got wiped like what happend before.

thanks and sorry for long post first htc device way different from the moto..i tried searching but couldnt really answer those if someone could answer or atleast point me in the right direction id appreciate it..
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
1. Yes

2. Supposedly

3. Yes if you have the RUU in .exe format(some of the older ones were .exe's)
[HTC Rezound] tcarave:
ok thank you for the info...so then internal sd will only be formatted if manually told to do so in recovery..wiping system data and cache will not touch that then correct? how about when flashing ruu as i understand it wipes internal when doing so? would it have any effect on the ruu running or it keeps that?thanks again
[Android General] Peteragent5:
I found a really nice thread that will maybe help some developers who need to port ROMs or for another reason :D :D :D

All credits to:

Doc.Who

smart4u.org

The list is not complete. If you do not see your device, post in this thread.

How to find your CPU:

Install Android Terminal Emulator and open it

Type the followng:

getprop ro.product.cpu.abi
#OR
getprop ro.product.cpu.abi2

You can also try finding your device on pdadb.net

See the detailed datasheet

In the Instruction-Set section, you'll see your CPU

ARMv7:

ARMv6:

ARMv5:
[Android General] chislon:
Was not previously aware of many of the phones in this list... There are some weird ones out there...
[Android General] Dhiraj:
Hi, I found in the specified thread that HTC Explorer(pico) is mentioned as armv6 based device . But actually it is based on armv7, due to which Firefox, Temple Run like apps runs smoothly on it . Although it has great potentiality to run ICS based Rom , few dev are working on it , even there is no separate sub forum for explorer in XDA .Sad .
[Android General] unicorndust98:
Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0? USA YP-G70. want to port to it.
[Android General] foxcartman:
Pandigital novel 7 inch ereader -tablet,i believe it's arm6,i have assortment of custom roms for it,including cwm,and ics, :D
[Android General] kdog1202:
LG mytouch (e379) ARMv7 processor
[Android General] Peteragent5:
Updated :)

Added.
[Android General] rashidkn:
hi ... htc hd2 not in list - arm v7a
[Android General] leventccc:
HTC One X , S and V are v7 too.
[Android General] peoples_flip:
What about the Rogers Galaxy Note i717R? I wanna try this out...