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[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
I can't confirm this. Have you checked your DNS settings?
[Bravo Android Development] Dr. Orange:
I full wipe as well between roms, ever since I hard bricked. Now that I remember, the only time I've had any sms issues was when I didn't wipe completely (no pun intended).

Anyway, I'm going to flash quarx's latest. So far the July 8 build has been flawless. Looking forward to the July 11 build.

Sent from my Bravo
[Bravo Android Development] mikiemc73:
Always do. It's just really weird. Once I reboot, everything works fine. So, be I've gotten used to this order:

Flash new ROM

Wipe cache

Wipe Dalvic

Boot

Check basics(SMS, etc...)

Reboot

Check WiFi

Drool over the newest pretties. :D

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On another note, has anyone tried using Stetsonaw's Epic Blue CM9 theme?
[Bravo Android Development] Dr. Orange:
You flash new rom before wiping cache and dalvic? I think you got those steps backwards.

The way I've been doing it is like this:

1.(nandroid backup for extra precaution)

2. Wipe cache

3. Wipe dalvic

4. Flash new rom

5. Flash gapps

6. Reboot

7. Enjoy pretty new rom:)

Had no problems with past rom flashes doing it this way. :D

Sent from my Bravo
[Bravo Android Development] mikiemc73:
It did the same thing either way.
[Bravo Android Development] mikiemc73:
And Gapps works between updates without reflashing. At least between the last 3 realeases, and that is.
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
Lately with CM9 gapps, baseband, and overclock settings are all saved between flashes. While the baseband doesn't matter on the Bravo, the other 2 are handy.
[Bravo Android Development] corvx:
I just saw 2 new folders for cm10, for both defys, any word from quarx if he'd be porting cm10 to bravo too? Would be great. Anyway, thanks Quarx for all the awesome work you have done so far.
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
there's a jellybean branch for bravo too: https://github.com/CyanogenKobe/android_device_moto_mb520/tree/jellybean

he just hasn't made a separate folder on his file hosting page for cm10 for the bravo, like he has for the defy/+, maybe soon
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
You can safely assume yes since he has all the repos set up (or getting set up) for the Bravo. Remember, the Bravo is only very slightly different from the Defy -- eg. flash, camera, and serch button for the most part, so whatever they get, so do we luckily. The Bravo'd probably be pretty crappy if it weren't for the Defy Team....then again, so would a lot of other Moto Phones since so many devs backport from their work.

I'm glad I don't get that excited over new roms any more. Well, maybe a little excited for Paranoid Android and Salad Bar, but they are some pretty cool mods. I'm just happy we have full working ICS, full working GB, and they both still get updates. I feel like we have better product and developers support now than when we were on stock Eclair and Froyo. I find it sad that a random French dude and a random Russian dude put out better roms than Motorola Mobility -- sad for Motorola and non-geek users, not us.:cool:

Quarx's latest runs pretty damn good. I can't wait to see how it runs once he merges in the latest PVR changes.

//Just finished merging Quarx's android_frameworks_base into salad bar and I'm about to compile. Hopefully that'll fix my framework problems and I can release an updated Salad Bar. Once I get Salad Bar to a "stable" point I plan on porting over Paranoid Android for us from source, not other roms.
[Bravo Android Development] mikiemc73:
Please forgive me for sounding like a noob, but explain this SaladBAR ROM. I've seen it mentioned for ICS and Jelly Bean, but no real description.
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
Its a UI mod with a different notification bar, aka, the Salad Bar, being developed by Rob43 (same dev as ICS Reloded Mod). Its kind of neat as it puts the bar on the bottom of the screen and the bar also doubles as the ics touch buttons. Also has a different app switch screen.

Check out this thread for more info.

It also looks like this is the last update for Salad Bar until Jellybean. I need to revert the pvr changes I pulled from Epsy and it should be good. It finally compiles with no errors from the Kobe repo, just now it won't initialize the graphics HW with the updated PVR. Oh the fun...

You can install the zip I uploaded earlier, just add in the media_profiles.xml before you flash -- I was expermenting with something and I'm not sure if the incorrect media_profiles is in the zip or not since I uploaded it 12 hours after I found the error -- instructions are in that thread.
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
jb pre-alpha just released for defy/+ by quarx. the breakneck rate of progress on development is incredible

Edit: just tried it, didnt flash jb gapps though and that's probably why i didn't have google now, but notification bar and project butter were amazing. can't wait for the inevitably more polished product :)

hwa, wifi work.

but no camera, mobile connection, and although i didn't try it, probably no mobile data as well since lack of gprs
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
Maybe camera and other things are not working because the rom is for defy, I'll try it now, let see how is going the project!
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
Camera doesn't work for defy users either atm. But yeah, the early progress is exciting :cool:

Sent from my MB520
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
I hope JB works faster for us (defy & bravo users).

By the way, ICS is still a little bit slow, its almost perfect now.

Is anybody having problems with the notifications bar? not all the time, its just rarely when I pull it down, nothing is there!

Any tweaks for getting some speed? Something with black & white list with HWA?
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
Haven't had the notification bar problem.

For speed, I've read some apps work better with HWA disabled. You can experiment with the HWA Blacklist tool over at the Defy Forums. I read Browser works better blacklisted.

Next you can start removing system apps like Live Wallpapers. Use Titanium Backup to uninstall system apps or delete the apk before you flash the rom.

With the latest HWUI roms I've been going to Settings\Developer Options\Window Animation Scale & Transition ... and setting them to .5x to speed up animations to make it seem faster and more fluid.

While I haven't used it with ICS roms, some Defy users are reporting the V6 supercharger works well in speeding up the rom.
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
I made some changes in HWA selector, but I didnt see any different before and after.

Maybe I changed wrong or something like. The rom is very fast now, I hope it gets faster soon!
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
The new or old HWA Tool? The new one is to blacklist for hwui roms and the old one is to whitelist for swui roms. The old one won't have any effect whatsoever on the new CM9 roms.

It is very fast, my only problem is I've been having is the battery draining faster than normal. I'll be at 80% charge where with similar usage I'd be at 94-88%, and that's after tweaking boosted to be really conservative on step up and to step down even faster. Using undervolted 20,40,54 stock settings.

//Just started compiling a new CM7, I'll upload in the morning (its 13 past midnight here and I don't feel like waiting till 3am to up it).
[Bravo Android Development] sdrawkcab3:
I've also seen a blank notification screen. No date, no nothin'

Battery life might be shorter on the full HWUI builds, but I've been tweaking so much lately that I can't say for sure...

BTW, thanks for the tip about the new hwa selector app!
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
My only tweak was undervolting, nothing more, so I can safely say the battery life is worse, not by much, but it is noticeable.
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
This new HWA tool seems to be a little bit difficult to make it work, its said that you have to flash something, I will try it later when its finished!

Battery life is really nasty, Im think of going back to cm7 because of that, I have been using cm9 as my primary rom alredy, but the battery life is a big problem!
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
While they're bad, they're better than CM9's first release on the Bravo. My battery would only last 8-12 hours on those releases. Once they get the PVR sorted out battery life should get better. Remember that the first PVR module was completely unchanged from the Milestone sources, once they get it better suited to our hardware hwui should use less resources and therefore less battery.

/So, logically, if she weighed the same as a duck, she's made of wood, and therefore, a witch.

//CM7 compiled, about to test it. Should upload it in an hour or two provided no one is playing online games here -- I have 1.5mbps down (actual speed) and 60kbps up - Seriously. If it didn't burn bandwidth, I'd upload on 3g since its much faster than my isp for uploading. I blame bittorrent for my ISP's crap upload, really screws you over on online games since you get shot with less lag than you're shooting.
[Bravo Android Development] kevins547:
It mean cm9 has the big problem is battery life ?

I was using cm7, not the latest but its ok. But cm9 is good look >
[Bravo Android Development] mikiemc73:
Holly crap, so I just found zepplinrox's V6 supercharger script, and just for the first few tests(opening apps, flipping through screens, etc...) the improvement is phenomenal.

Here is the post...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991276

Enjoy

@skeevy420 I was looking at some other threads and noticed you included the script w/ CM7 White Rabbit, have you tried it on Kangs Salad Bar yet?
[Bravo Android Development] mikiemc73:
Hey guys, I got a request. I was wondering if it would be possible to use TWRP 2.1 for the recovery in any future CM9 builds. Using the Vol.rocker is a pain in the ...

The touch interface works so much better.IMHO. :)
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
I think CM9 wont be updated in the future anymore, I think everything is pointing alredy to CM10.

You can flash TWRP and the use it.

I hope that we get a working version for Clockworkmod 6 touch version, its said to be very fast making backups and touch function is great! :silly:

Bytheway I prefer TWRP :fingers-crossed:
[Bravo Android Development] kdarknight:
After video recording 1:30-2:00 mins sound vanishes in video ? :(
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
TweetyPeety included them with CM7 WR in a preconfigured way. I just ported WR over to the Bravo so they stayed like that. When I include them with roms I add them to /system/xbin/ so the user can configure them however they want and for ease of use.

Yes. I just wish TWRP didn't format the sd-ext when using its wipe data\factory reset option or I'd be using it now.

I prefer my music, senstitve\secure data, and most accessed data to be on a journaled file system (its a Linux Geek thing). Fat32 just corrupts way too easily. Forget to unmount? That's a10% file corruption...Mount in Windows, safely unmount, Mount in Linux, safely unmount, Mount in Android and half your songs are gone....screw fat32 & vfat. (yes that happened to me)
[Bravo Android Development] Dr. Orange:
Where or how might I figure out how to configure scripts? Not that I need them with your kang, just for future reference.
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
Now the rom is still very laggy now, many issues, I never connected any Bluetooth device to my phone, but you can always use multiboot so that if you need something that is not working on CM9 you can use CM7.
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
I also had problems getting bluetooth tethering to connect to my pc, I thought it was just a bad pc configuration on my end, but maybe its not. That's why I only use CM9 on multiboot;). If you need a reliable, daily rom, use CM7. CM9 is still glitchy and laggy, but it gets better with each release.:D

If you're having multiboot problems, I set up the CM7 Custom rom to already have multiboot preinstalled and all you have to do is download my CM9 pack and extract it to /mnt/sdcard/multiboot and you're done. The CM9 zip extracts to 715 mb, so make sure you have the room to spare.

To install it all, Flash the CM7 Custom, then flash the update pack 1, and add the folder CM9 in the CM9 zip into /mnt/sdcard/multiboot and you'll have CM7 installed with CM9 on multiboot. If you're coming from Quarx 20120410 CM7, all you have to do is wipe cache and dalvik. No data wipe required.:)

I thought that was the easiest way to set up a multiboot environment, unless I were to add the multiboot rom into CM7 Custom, but then it would be too big for me to upload in one file to Mediafire free (200mb limit).
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
CM9 is still not for daily use.

Untill I dont see hardware acceleration, I wont switch to it, I just install it to try.

Thetering and other things are not working.

I was told that it will be difficult for us (defy and bravo users) to get HW acceleration because of the locked bootloader.

I hope that like always there is another way to do somethings and that will be the way for us to get everything working.
[Bravo Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Huh? Lol, no, these CM9 builds (both for the Defy and Bravo) do have hw acceleration. Don't you remember how it was without it? It was pretty much unusable. Also, I find it completely stable for daily use. Whats really wrong with it? It's smooth, all features work, and all 2D-3D games work great. (I'm also killing the Galaxy Nexus in Quadrant :D
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
Lol you know what I mean, until I dont see for exampler, flash player working, it is not going to be for daily use (at least for me), I know we can play and watch some videos, but I'd like this get a little better. :D
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
AFAIK, its only partial hw acceleration, not full. The biggest issues are things like Defy Parts menu(baseband switcher, audio effects) not working, no data tethering, bluetooth issues, no superuser on multiboot....you know, small, niche things that don't fully work yet; and you'd never know they didn't work unless its a major feature for you. Well, the no SU isn't a little thing, but you get the point. Also, a few of the menus are still placeholders..

But you are right, it used to be damn near unusable compared to what we have now. It's stable for daily use, for the most part. I just wouldn't call it as noob friendly as CM7 yet, not that anyone has.

Quarx is also doing work with kexec to get around the locked bootloader. Imho, kexec is better than an unlocked bootloader. Here me out, with an unlocked bootloader there's the chance you could screw it up so bad you can't even flash the sbf to fix it, while with kexec, the bootloader isn't touched so we still would have that layer of safety to flash the sbf to fix our screw ups.
[Bravo Android Development] eternal.sumit:
You have said advanced and some other setting don't work & have posted link to download for setting,after I download and install all these setting will the ROM fully function,except for base

band switcher?,what are actual limitation on CM9 for bravo?right now I am using CM9 of defy porting to bravo,& my carrier SIM functions smoothly on it.so,In this sense CM9 by quarx for bravo should have no problem regarding my carrier SIM,What do you say please advice

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I have been using CM7(phone storage),MIUI & CM9(SD card virtual image via multiboot).the CM9 version is of defy ported to bravo,though camera's not working it runs very smoothly.you can install multiboot & this ROM to check out ICS feature smoothly except for camera without any pain.

I will soon adding high detail guide on setting multiboot & flashing multiple ROM including compatibility guide info too
[Bravo Android Development] feistygoat10:
Wi-Fi hotspot is not working and music player force closes and won't work again until I reboot the phone.
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
New build is up, I hope we can see some improvements.
[Bravo Android Development] mataflakitas:
amistad

hola amigo josuearisty nos podra decir cual es lo nuevo de build ya trabaja el flash creamelo e estado este momento estoy feliz por que se que el maestro Quarx va a sacar todo adelante entiendo que esta en beta la cm9 pero estoy seguro que va ir mejorando graxias a usted nos podra explicar cuales son las nuevas ventajas que funcionan y las que no funciona saludos amigo ....:D
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
Gracias por ese adelanto :D

Ahora mismo veo que Flash Player funciona! :p

Excelente!

Flash Player is working now!! :D

Its not perfect, but its working at least! Thanks to Quarx!
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
haven't flashed it yet. dl'ing now. what do you mean it's not perfect?

and am i correct to assume that the flash only works on the (hwui) nightly zip? there are two 4/16 zips: one with hwui, one without.

edit: flashed the hwui zip...new build is incredibly snappy. needless to say quarx is godly. haven't tested flash yet..i'll report back when I do
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
I downloaded the one with hwui.

About flash player, maybe its me or sometimes is laggy. :confused:

Video was behind Audio when testing! :confused:

Please everybody tell me about it!
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
I'm occasionally getting this weird thing happening to me. When I try to scroll from apps to widgets in the drawer, I get taken back to the home screen. Similarly, sometimes I can't click an app that's on the last page of my drawer, and I instead again get taken back to my home screen...this is on the hwui build

anyone else?

edit: ok after much testing, i've concluded that the hwui build, though astonishingly smooth, is way too unstable. back to my nand :)
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
Quarx posted that he will upload a new build soon.

HWUI is HW partially working.

Im having the same problem with going back to home screen.

Im using apex launcher, somebody recommended in defy forums.
[Bravo Android Development] niksy+:
New builds are up, you lucky ... guys :D

http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-bravo(kobe)/
[Bravo Android Development] jtdroid:
What exactly is hwui? I'm using the non hwui from yesterday and everything seems to be working fine.

One thing I can't find is how to unmount and format my sd card. Where is this option?

Great work!
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
I think that HWUI has to do something with flash player alredy working for us.

It is not working for DEFY USERS (as far as I know)
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
if you notice, the hwui build's background in the intro google menu, or the settings menu, etc. have a grayish gradient. this indicates hwa is more or less present, i believe. also, the build is extremely snappy, stability is the only issue..

the multiboot root issue for ics should be fixed with the latest build according to quarx github. haven't tested yet. framework crt animations are present now. quarx is on his a-game.

edit: 4/17 hwui build has the same home-screen revert bug as mentioned last time. hwui also has some weird pixel artifacts around the app icon labels sometimes. the defypartslauncher app is no longer needed. defy parts (led charging, multitouch, compass calibrator, baseband switcher) are all in 'advanced' under general settings menu. panoramic mode on camera no longer fc's but nothing is previewed or saved.
[Bravo Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Hmm, so josuearisty was completely accurate! I though for sure we had a perfectly working hw accelerated ui, but I guess we haven't until now. So that's why we had that pure black background instead of the nice looking gradient background.
[Bravo Android Development] jtdroid:
Just installed the latest build with hwui but I cannot install anything from the market. Clicking on anything from the market results in it crashing back to the home screen.

I also experienced a crash back to the home screen while scrolling through the app drawer.
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
thanks for confirming. hwui is unstable for right now, but at least it gives us a taste of the smoothness for potential things to come. :)
[Bravo Android Development] jtdroid:
Should I rsd lite back to factory if I want to revert back to CM7, or can I wipe data/cache and install from zip within CM9?
[Bravo Android Development] syllogyking:
the latter. you shouldn't have to flash an sbf since both roms are on the same froyo kernel.

for your question earlier about unmounting and formatting sd card, i believe you should be able to do all that from recovery. i've never tinkered with it, but i remember reading somewhere that you can format sd from there.

now that bravo has equally functional cm9 as defy, i thought this link would be cool to check out if you want to theme your gapps to ics/holo. please give credits to travp624 on rootz. he did an excellent job.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/15092-invertedtotally-inverted-apps-4-12-google-plus-updated/

also, has anyone tried this? it looks awesome!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1604108
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
This multitasking looks great, I'd like we have HWA to have ICS fully working.

Will motorola ever unlock their bootloaders? :(

I will be moving to an Atrix in the coming months, just waiting for price to low down!! :D At least the bootloader is unlockable!!
[Bravo Android Development] rdannar:
spend the extra.... Had them both... galaxy s2 is way to go....
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
GS2 is a great phone, maybe one of the best, but I have tried both phones.

I like the gs2 display, is beautiful however atrix has a great display with great pixels resolution (qHD), I like the simplicity of having a hdmi port (not using an adapter like sg2), I like atrix laptop dock and multimedia dock (I friend of mine have both, I love them)

At least atrix could receive ICS (maybe if moto doesnt f**ck all)

Not counting with the best hardware out there, Moto has always created the best hardware!

That's why I chose it! :D
[Bravo Android Development] BravoMotorola:
That's why I got it too
[Bravo Android Development] rdannar:
its all opinion.... Owned both of them at the same time for 2 month and the atrix became obsolete for me so sold it.. I even ported and made some roms before selling it.. The gs2 was just so much smoother and faster.. Has ics already... And much more development.
[Bravo Android Development] BravoMotorola:
I'd like to have the gs2 as well. I told people on At&t to get it since the Atrix no longer sells. To me the Atrix is special though. Hopefully development will get better too. We have CM9 working great except for the camera's a little weird.
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
I will get an atrix anyway, was released first as well price is lower, I will stay with moto for a long time as I have done, I hope at least sometime in the near future they unlock bootloaders.
[Bravo Android Development] corvx:
I'm having problems with the bluetooth, is not turning on, on nightly 04-17 hwui. Chrome is not working either for me, it opens, but you can see it is slow, if you try to do anything else, it would FC.
[Bravo Android Development] josuearisty:
mmm bluetooth was working for me, maybe you should try installing again the rom over without wiping to try, create a backup first.

Chrome needs Hardware acceleration, it opens but shows nothing for me.

You should know that this rom is still buggy and laggy in some aspetcs, since flash player is working alredy I could use it more, but not my daily use.
[Bravo Android Development] skeevydude:
I'm gonna add, for the time being CM9, while stable, isn't ready for daily use unless you're bug testing, you know how to fix it when it breaks, or you're having rom fun for a minute.

(All the bugs you're having are known problems, the Defy CM9 pages have better bug lists than us, but we're only listing Bravo bugs here for the most part.)