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[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
Dennis,

Since you mentioned you will be short of cash etc, I think the best option which you should definitely get advantage of is a full refund from ChevronWP7. They are offering $9 back to anyone who emails them. Drop them an email, the token will be forfeited but then you get the $9 so you lose no money at all. It's like you got free customization for all these months. No point investing $99 at this stage when you have other priorities already. I am sure customization cannot be that important to any smartphone user that they chose it in hard times. Oh and btw, I think ChevronWP7 isn't Microsoft. Microsoft just let them use the ability to hack into it's OS which it Microsoft wanted could have been strangled like all our other efforts to unlock into the OS. At the end of the day, this isn't an open sourced OS where any Tom, **** or Chevron could hack into without causing licensing fuss etc at some point or the other. The only OS at the moment where you could enjoy the openess will be Android and perhaps the choice for Samsung Galaxy is better there. But do get those $9 off ChevronWP7 team first and then if possible sell this phone off as soon as you can. Reason being - if the rumours stand true and if the current handsets don't get WP8, the re-sell value would be nothing more than a candy bar!
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
You guys paid $9 for the length of $100 subscription, I don't get it, nobody answered me. Was there ant explicit instruction from the Chevron team that insinuated in any way that these tokens were life long subscriptions? They're also willing to refund you the $9... What is the point of these rants? If you feel cheated, they're refunding the money, which means you paid $0 for the same service most of us pay $100 for...

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[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Yes, I've said it for a year now, people with WP7 on their HD2 are stealing as WP isn't free. Its really crazy how a lot of you feel you're entitled to free ****.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] dmw_4814:
Paying $9 or paying $99 is not the point for me. My problem is that I don't feel we should have to pay ANYTHING to do something on our Windows phone (change tile/theme colors, change text alerts, etc) that you can do on ANY other mobile phone operating system for free! I will, if I can come up with it, gladly pay the $99 for the complimentary 1-year App-Hub membership, especially since MS will refund my money to me (they should just give ALL persons that paid for a ChevronWP7 unlock an App-Hub membership WITHOUT requiring any payment at all from us, but don't get me started!), just so I can continue to personalize my phone the way I want to. Most, not all, MOST people like to personalize their phones. I am not unique in this aspect. Having just 10 colors to pick from for tile colors in not enough, at least for me. We should also be able to choose a wallpaper to use as our background behind the tiles, not just white or black.

Despite these issues, I really DO love WP7/7.5, and will most likely continue to keep/use mine, and I'll probably buy a new one when Apollo/WP 8 comes out!

Dennis
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
I paid $9 to sideload, which is exactly what the thing does....these guys and their new boss are re-locking already paid for phones....where is the free **** we're asking for? I could really point out how stupid you look for preaching about stolen goods, you put Android on a Windows Mobile device, then come in here with a holier-than-thou rant about people who want Nokia apps should buy Nokia, HTC apps for HTC phones, etc. I'll answer your question with a question: where does it say this wasn't permanent? I can't believe you're making excuses for these guys or this nonsense they're pulling....unless you're part of them. Does Microsoft really think strong-arming 10,000 people will make them developers?

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[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
But... This isn't your operating system. Microsoft designed it this way, therefore, they say what you should be able to do. What the people here on XDA think really doesn't matter tbh. They don't want users with this access and its their choice. Apple does just fine with this model.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Android is open source, sorry you fail to understand the difference between the two.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
Answer my question about this unlocker NOT being permanent...? Let's get that one out the way first, because I KNOW you got unlimited unlocks as long as you had the same phone....(we'll deal with your flip-flop about stealing in a later post :))
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Nobody has answered mine. Did any single word that the Chevron team said insinuate in any way that these unlocks would be permanent? As far as I remember, I was told they "would give you the same experience as a developer unlock for $9" - which means they would not be permanent unlocks. You guys are creating a storm for something that was never promised. It's the same **** you guys pull when an update isn't released on a date that the internet made up and Microsoft never once said. "OMGZ WINDOZE FONE IZ A FAIL" It gets so damn tiring, you guys make these forums unbearable.

On top of all of this, they're offering to give you your money back, so in essence, you just got a free service. What the hell is the big deal? That you may have to pay the same price as everybody else now? Wait, it isn't even that, because Microsoft just offered you guys an additional free year. So, you paid $9 for something we all have to pay $200 for... And you're complaining... Really?

And I would tell you how dumb you are for calling me a "flip flopper" if it weren't for the double standard mods on this forum. But you're comparing an open sourced operating system in Android to a licensed OS in Windows Phone. One is given away for free and encouraged to be altered, while the other is licensed specifically to different OEMs with different rules to be bundled with specific products. Are you that dense that you can't understand that? On top of that, for the longest, HD2 owners were spoofing the system and illegally getting live enabled IDs for the market.

And on top of ALLLLLLL of that, you're calling out my actions from two years ago for something you're complaining about now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
My PM box is always open if you've got something "extra" to say, as far as this topic goes, I'll say this since you don't comprehend good...YOU GOT UNLIMITED UNLOCKS for the same phone, it says so where you get your token, I know because I supported these guys by buying one. If you like that they can relock your phone, good for you....don't like people *****ing about it? ...then DON'T READ OR REPLY...problem solved.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Homebrew Apps

Look, this is simple. You buy something, no one tells you there are limitations (length of use), then the use has no limitations.

You want to relock the phone, have at it. But you stop me from using homebrew apps, most of which I supported, and we have a problem. Take back your product, but don't even think about stopping me from using products I installed on my device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
...I was driving and didn't read all of the initial post .....are you serious? ....you can't be called out for flip-flopping about stealing because you stole 2 years ago lol....? Android is open source, Windows Mobile was not...:D.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Unlimited unlocks does not mean unlimited length of time. But you continue to ignore the fact that they're a) refunding your precious $9 if you don't like their decision with their product, or b) giving you an additional free year.

And Android was open source, and THAT is the OS that I added, I paid for my Windows Mobile license when I purchased my phone, so I fail to see any comparisons...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
....and HTC, Nokia, Samsung, and others are all WP7 partners with cross platform apps, and everyone here bought a sideloading app that was reversed by the new owners....so what was your point on stealing again...? I won't engage with you anymore, it's pointless and off topic....but you're digging your ignorance hole deeper...stealing is ok for you because you put Android on a Windows device, but didn't pay Google or buy an Android phone because Microsoft said you owned the HD2 because you bought it, therefore a license....but you blast those sideloading...think about that....
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
So by your logic, I can buy a DVD and post it for the world to download and use since I paid for it, huh. You don't need to PAY Google for Android, it's FREE - why can't you understand that? You pay OEMs for their customizations, hardware, and product. Same with Windows Phone, with the exception that you pay for the operating system license as well - but you pay for device specific apps. There is a reason that you cannot download LG apps on a Nokia device. You're trying to justify your criminal thought process by attacking my legal one? If you knew anything, and it has become increasingly obvious that you don't, XDA removed -ALL- Android HD2 ROMs which had any software which was not free and infringed on any copyright. It also posted a notice that all work had to be available to be distributed per the Google open sourced policy. But yeah, I stole something that is free... Cool.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
But you still went and circumvented the bootloader of your device to put an open sourced project on your phone. Well nice and dandy but the bootloader part - kettle reference deserved.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
....trying to talk logic with that guy is like getting blood out a Muppet...not gonna happen lol....

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[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Modifying a boot loader causes no damages, stealing Windows Phone or apps does... Are you guys serious right now?

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[Windows Phone 7 General] giddorah:
I heard the reason MS didn't renew the Chevron-project was because it was implemented to give developers a cheap way to develop and test applications on their phone without having to pay the $99 straight away.

After they evaluated the results they however found out that the outcome from this project was VERY poor and hardly anyone had done any developing thanks to it. It was just being used by people who wanted to sideload apps and do nothing to advance the platform.

So they shut it down and are offering a year of development-unlock instead.

For $9 everyone gets $99... I think that's quite fair. Can't believe people are whining just because they got $99 worth of access for $9.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
I think that is the difference between WM/WP and Android...Having a modified bootloader on a WM/WP device would definitely be frowned upon over at MS.

You might get an overall idea on what I am talking about here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Locked_Pre-installation

even though it roughly is talking about the Windows OS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] samsabri:
I hope they don't work for you. Harsh right? But Nokia Maps and Drive were created by Nokia for their handsets.

You're part of the problem with Chevron being discontinued. You know that right? The intent of Chevron was to allow hobbyists to build apps and put them on their devices without having to shell out the $99. Why would Microsoft support a product that allows someone to steal the property of another? Makes no sense.

Shame on you.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
^ thank you.

& for the record, HTC encouraged the unlocking of their bootloaders, they even unlocked them for users. Either way, there is no monetary damage loss like stealing these apps & the OS.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
LMAO, sure HTC did....http://www.dailytech.com/HTC+Begrudgingly+Allows+Bootloader+Unlocking/article23633.htm.

HTC's own words: It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty. Please note that unlocking your bootloader does not mean that you will be able to unlock the SIM lock. Unlocking your SIM lock is at the discretion of your operator/carrier and is not part of the bootloader unlocking scope.

Our devices have been designed with our hardware and software specifications in mind and unlocking the bootloader will change the software and may cause unexpected side effects. It is impossible for HTC to ensure the proper functioning of your device after this. In the worst case scenario, it is possible that your device may be physically damaged due to overheating or the behavior of your device might be altered including, but not limited to, hearing aid compatibility (HAC) and specific absorption rate (SAR) values.

Some content on your device may also be invalidated and cannot be accessed any more because of invalid DRM security keys. This includes content that you may have purchased through a 3rd party vendor and through HTC. Furthermore, although you will still be able to receive updates to your device via FOTA (“firmware over the air”), we do not guarantee that updating your device via FOTA will not render your device unusable. Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader. HTC bears no responsibility if your device is no longer usable afterwards.

We strongly suggest that you do not unlock the bootloader unless you are confident that you understand the risks involved. This is a technical procedure and the side effects could possibly necessitate repairs to your device not covered under warranty. If you are still interested in unlocking the bootloader, and you understand the consequences both to your device and to your warranty, then you may refer to the following pages where we have provided the unlocking instructions.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Where does any of this say it's illegal to unlock the bootloader... I don't get it? It emphasizes the risks, it doesn't deem it illegal. Stealing licensed software/apps IS illegal... Why can't you understand this? Jesus Christ.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
...didn't you say HTC encouraged bootloader unlocking...? As usual, you don't know what you're talking about....you put Android on a Winmo phone, but you didn't steal because YOU did it, but you're higher and mightier than us that bought this software WITH Microsoft's blessing.....
[Windows Phone 7 General] xHausx:
I know some people are upset about the Chevron deal, and likewise I know others feel the Chevron team are unjustly being blamed for it, but, there's still no excuse for attacking others who are just voicing their opinions and venting.

If you don't agree with someone please either reply like a normal person or just move on to something else.
[Windows Phone 7 General] theclueless:
i was genuinely happy when they announced wp7 as successor for wm6. while wm6 was powerful, it was freaking unstable as heck, and although iphone is nice, you cant use the ide in windows nor linux (if you want a computer thats usable use windows, if you want a secure pc use linux, if you want the headache of linux and bugs of windows use osx).

when i learned that wm6 programs will no longer works in wp7, i was fine with it, since it is gonna be with c#, and i dont mind picking up another language. when the dev detail came out, i was surpised that i cannot i dev unlock it without getting an app approved and published on the marketplace with a dreamspark account, although it was a bit counterintuitive, so i remade my float point calculator and tested on the emulator (crappy, but workable).

the real headache is the approval process. i submitted the app, rejected because the color scheme does not work well with the white theme, good on microsoft for making sure the app works for all flavor; second time, the large icon is not up to the standard, sure why not, mspaint will do, simple fix; third time, the back-key brings the app back to the menu rather than home screen (isnt that the job of the WINDOWS key?); fourth time, the textbox only takes numbers and A-F (ITS A FREAKING FLOAT POINT CALCULATOR!), resubmit with explanation; fourth time take-two, 2 weeks no respond, stuck in "reviewing". By this time i gave up and use chevron and unlocked my phone, toss my app on my shiny hd7, and went happily away in my ee class and labs with my float point calculator (because i lost my ti-89 ). my friends, who also owned hd7 and omnia 7, were interested in my app, but since their phones were not unlocked, and my app is not in the marketplace thanks to microsoft approving fart apps and not my remotely useful to only a handful of people app, and chevron was shutdown, theres no way for them to get it.

Fast forward another week, my app is REJECTED again because my BACK key behavior is not properly used to bring back to the menu (see rejection #3). by this time, i gave up. i returned my wp7, hope microsoft their best, and returned to my old faithful nexus one, downloaded java and eclipse, load up android dev tools, made my float point calc again in java, load it on my phone. so happen one of my friend who wanted my program also returned his hd7 for a samsung vibrant, so i loaded my app on his phone too, simple as that. the funny thing is, i resubmitted my 3rd version of the app to marketplace, and it was published 2 weeks later.

other people might have different experience with wp7 than me, but this is frustration beyond belief for me. i like wp7, i really do, but i wish i can do a bit more with their api calls (at least the public ones), and for the love of god, if i have a dreamspark account, that means im a college student with fixed income and cannot pay you $99 a year to make an app just for myself and/or at most a couple of other people i know, just give me the ability to side load 3, maybe 4 apps, without going through your painful approval process.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^…moral of the story, don't give up.
[Windows Phone 7 General] quicoli:
Originally Posted by samsabri>

"You're part of the problem with Chevron being discontinued. You know that right? The intent of Chevron was to allow hobbyists to build apps and put them on their devices without having to shell out the $99. Why would Microsoft support a product that allows someone to steal the property of another? Makes no sense."

I agree with you partly. See, I had a sony ericsson Vivaz and a Garmin GPS software installed in it. When I changed to WP, there was no such good GPS for my country. My escape was Nokia Drive.

Just few days ago was published a good GPS software (Turn by Turn) for my country, and I'm buying it.

The main problem is the lack of customization for WP and regionals markets arent good enough. There are some nice american apps. I would love to use here, but I cant, they arent available for me. Microsoft has been so severe about personalization that developers arent interested on it.

Maybe, this changes when Apollo comes out, or not. Nokia is trying to convince everybody about WP, or better, about Lumia (if you see, main point of their adversitment is Lumia, not the trade Windows Phone).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mephikun:
So, basically, this is the worst time to buy a WP7 phone for someone who likes to customize their devices to their liking?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Not if you buy HTC. HTCs are the best for customization
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
^^ HTC Titan. Yeah sure.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] Mephikun:
I'm probably gonna end up getting an HTC Surround if I get a WP7 phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
If you check out the HD7 / HD7s (at&t) - it blows the Surround out of the water. However, it still is pretty expensive for a 1st gen phone.

I had a Surround for awhile...wasn't all too impressed for it being a first release phone. -(Before interop/rooting capabilities).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bromatt13:
can the discussion on why it is happening end and talk about what to do. Like i posted earlier how is our states affected if we unlock beyond the chevron token unlock? will anything be changed really if we have interop-unlocked?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
Why is this happening? Good question. I do know that I'm tired of being burned by these fly by night development groups....I guess I should've known better after the TP2 Sim Unlocker debacle...Some apps won't work if you're interlop unlocked...the only method I see is registry edit the value to prevent the re-lock...
[Windows Phone 7 General] cocotehier:
"I just want to know if apps already side loaded will continue to work after the tokens are revoked" On mine none of them ! And, no way to install new xap.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sirajgoku:
the more security microsoft builds up....the more developers it loses.....c'mon microsoft give the devs! to build your ecosystem :mad::mad:
[General Questions and Answers] orkillakilla:
I'm not sure if this is in the right spot (if not I apologize), but I figure it is because this relates directly to building Android.

When I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04, all the sudden I couldn't install Java (sha256sum mismatch jdk-7u3-linux-x64.tar.gz), which means I can't do much deving. Well I searched through the interweb and finally found a solution.

First:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eugenesan/java
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer

By now, you have probably gotten an error and the terminal has stated that Java was not installed. No problem.

Second:

Download Java directly from Oracle: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-7u3-download-1501626.html

Now, move what you just downloaded to /var/cache/oracle-java7-installer/

Third:

sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-java7-installer.postinst

Now scroll down and find the following:

echo "Downloading..."
rm -f $FILENAME
WGETRC=wgetrc wget $PARTNER_URL \
|| fp_exit_with_error "download failed"
rm -f wgetrc
echo "Download done."

Now put a # next to each line between "Downloading..." and "Downloading done."

echo "Downloading..."
#rm -f $FILENAME
#WGETRC=wgetrc wget $PARTNER_URL \
#|| fp_exit_with_error "download failed"
#rm -f wgetrc
echo "Download done."

Save, and go back to your terminal.

Finally, do:

sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer

Java should now install properly.

Source:

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html (most helpful info is in the comments)
[General Questions and Answers] umb3rts:
Make long story short, it didn't execute commands as root? Shame on Java!

Is it working on other distroes debian based like Mint?
[General Questions and Answers] orkillakilla:
Haven't tried on any other distros.
[General Questions and Answers] sparksco:
AFAIK you need java 6 installed to build android. Not to mention Ubuntu 12.04 is still in the final stages of beta lol.
[General Questions and Answers] orkillakilla:
Well for what I do java 7 is fine with me
[General Questions and Answers] exb0:
THANK YOU SO MUCH. took me a good 2 hours to find this guide. Now I can finally install curl. wtff..
[General Questions and Answers] sparksco:
So this is for 64-bit right? That's what I'm using
[General Questions and Answers] exb0:
I guess. I'm running 64 and it works.