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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] upsidedownbanana:
i have more than 10 posts already....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nigeldg:
Sometimes the servers take a while. Might not change until tomorrow, just have some patience and report it to a mod if it doesn't change soon
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vikingzou:
me too....
[EVO 4G General] cobmojo:
Earlier this year I got a special promo were I'll get $50 off a new phone at best buy, up to this point I've only got my phones a Sprint. How is buying it through Best Buy different than Sprint? How is the insurance different?

I'm trying to decide if it's worth saving $50.
[EVO 4G General] deerkiller11:
I have bought them from both and you buy the insurance from sprint either way. Unless you buy BB warranty which is a ripoff. So buy phone from BB and save the money and insure through sprint. Its a win win
[EVO 4G General] alxrock:
You can buy through Best Buy and just get the insurance through Sprint.

I got my wife's White Evo through Best Buy (since it was an exclusive at the time) and she tried out their insurance, but after reading through the fine print we realized that Sprint's TEP was better, so we canceled BB's insurance and got on Sprint's TEP.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
Good Evening All :)

I know this might be discussed before in few threads but the reason I'm posting this thread is to have the answers from the developers themselves about the difficulties they're facing to port Sense UI ( 4.0 for example ) to our beloved SGS 2 and why their is no attempt to do it.

Updates 24-05-2012 :)

Developers are going crazy :D

check these websites:-

http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1678663

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1533931

I believe we have a great code reverse engineers as well as great kernel developers and plenty of resources out there ,,, what we are waiting for ?!!

Please devs kindly give it a try and help us,,,,

Updates 16-05-2012 by Quebe2 and Coenjte44 big thanks to them :-)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1657050

Swamp goblin a great developer is working in the shadows to create an amazing HTC sense based SGS II ROM !!!!

Now in Nexus S development thread, two developers namely Qube2 and swamp goblin are working so hard to port Sense 4.0 !!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1502895

Qube2 did successfully port Sense 2.1 to Nexus S !!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1490709

Mkalter from SGS 1 thread is trying his best to port to SGS !!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1593939

I believe that our SGS II is the most device world wildly used. Also it has better hardware and better developer community.

What I need is the developers' comments, not only the ones who are interested on Sense UI but also the ones who are not but they have their theories in which they explain why porting Sense UI is difficult, non achievable or waste of time.

Thanx

Sorry for the bad grammer. English isn't really my native language.

P.S. For users like me, respectfully don't flood this thread with posts that won't answer my question in details ( like; if you want sense UI buy HTC device !! ). I need the developers to kindly gather here and post their opinions, experiences and may be their pre-alphas :)

My Question was moved to Q/A subforum ,, I did post it in general subforum intentionally because of it is really hot area and it may attract developers. I hope it won't be got lost here. Thanx Crachel :(
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyberboob:
To be honest, most developers don't browse around here (as they are busy with their own thing)... but testing Sense UI myself on several phones.. it's laggy and a resource hog. Sure it looks nice, but it's not better than a few others (especially since ICS)- and most often people want things to be more speedy.

Perhaps a hardcore developer will come and give you more details on what they like or don't like about it. Good luck.

PS

Apex launcher fast and smooth
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaffee4Eck:
Most of the users here want stock as possible. I dont know why. I study now android development and yes i want Sense UI to at my Phone because i used HTC HD2 with RafDroids HD revolution it had sense. So give a lil bit at any day at any time there will be a sense SGS 2... But Stock ICS with GO Launcher rocks too :-D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MistahBungle:
Because it's crap & unnecessary, as Cyberboob more politely intimated than I did.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B3311:
I think it's down to purely pragmatic reasons.

Say a dev owns a HTC device. What's more practical for him/her (never know, female devs could exist..)? Modify Sense on a phone he/she owns, or decide that TouchWiz is great and spend hours trying to port that instead?

Ergo the same holds true for devs whom own the SGS2.

As cyberboob said, you're unlikely to see any devs on this subforum, and in my opinion they don't need to explain or justify any decision they make anyway - their work, their choice. It's not a democracy here, and that's the way it should be.

And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...;)

And

much

more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
I know that sense is just like any other UI out there but I think weather, twitter and Facebook implementation as well as the animations of HTC sense are far better than go , apex and other UI launchers.

Now being laggy or buggy is something I really wanna wait to comment on but first we wanna test it.

I'm resisting to buy HTC one X and to give up on my SGS II because I believe in that our developers are capable to create a powerful and better performing android OS on SGS II that with HTC sense UI would be better than any HTC device.

Back to main subject we need developer's opinion in porting HTC sense UI based roms to our SGS II.

I wish moderators here would kindly move this thread to any subforum in which devs are more likely to see and comment or may be to contribute to this subject.

Thanx all for replying.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DSA:
There was a dev thread...it got closed due to spam posts

[PROJECT] [PORT] HTC Sense UI 3.0 [ WORK IN PROGRESS ]
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MistahBungle:
Hahaha :) I did.

Congrats on the 1000th mate ;) *applauds*
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankimm:
The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.

It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.

Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
Yeah I'll surely donate but we need somebody who actually start porting it. Not only me you will see a bunch of people who are willing/will donate to this project.

Peace.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Makrilli:
In my opinion sense 3 is ugly and Sense 4 isn't any diffrent from fror exsample go launcher
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
@Makrilli.

You haven't tried it, I believe :)

Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.

peace.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Judged by the number of Sense threads two points are plain one HTC users want it on SGS2 and two nearly a year down the line and it must be to difficult to port .

Which points to the simple fact that SGS2 devs dont want to port it or have found to many stumbling blocks to make it worth while .Probably the later is the big reason why no sense .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
Good day everybody :)

No developers yet !!

Obviously, this subform has less developer activity :(

Peace
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MistahBungle:
Plenty of devs read Q&A.

It's a crap idea as has already been said :rolleyes: Think about it. You're a dev...you have a job, a family, other interests. You have a choice say, between developing/maintaining something like a kernel or a rom (or an app even) which hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of people will appreciate, use & offer feedback on, which will be an ongoing thing...

Or you port a UI from another device to please a couple of dozen fanboys of said different device which is both ugly (just my opinion) & consumes a crapload of device resources/isn't 'efficient'.

I know what I'd be doing.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B3311:
Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.

To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.

Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??

To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.

Give it up.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
I really feel sad about this. The good thing is HTC has released it's miracle HTC one X which has both powerful hardware and amazing software and may be I will buy it :)

Thanx All for replying.

Peace
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
Please Forum moderator move this thread to the discussion sub forum ,,,,

Peace
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
Please administrators/moderators move this topic to general forum , maybe it will get somebody's attention.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NOMIOMI:
yes most the sgs2 users need sense 4 on their sgs2 i also want to see sense 4 on my sgs2
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norpan111:
Obviously most users doesn't need sense 4 on their sgs2
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oweida:
It's okay for those who do not want sense on their phones but I believe once they try it the will fall in love with it. Imagine one launcher with all what you need from Widgets not only included but also optimized for the best user experience!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ctomgee:
I've tried Sense. I like it less than TouchWiz.

Everyone has their own opinions.
[LG Revolution] wslguy:
I am seeing a lot of posts with questions about the local.prop file. If any of you are having permission issues enable mass storage mode then open notepad on your computer and type " ro.kernel.qemu=1" then click save as and name it local.prop and save it in the /data folder on the phone. DO NOT wipe data after creating this file or it will be deleted. Then re-enable internet connection mode and USB debugging and proceed with the rooting process.
[LG Revolution] tommy_o:
how bout for us guys in test mode?
[LG Revolution] wslguy:
You could either push it with adb or copy to the external SD with a card reader then use a file browser to copy it into the /data folder.
[LG Revolution] tommy_o:
is this the correct way?

first flash v7 stock..then root..then make a local.prop..save it..use lgnpst to update to zv8??? then I would still be rooted?
[LG Revolution] Plumbert:
I started a thread earlier today about similar problems. I will try this when I get home tonight and let everyone know the results.

EDIT: Problem with this method is what I mention on my other thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24741989#post24741989

I can't move files into the /data folder because the permission denied error message I get. Oddly enough, I only started getting these weird permission problems after I took the advice from keithmcelhinney (basically saying do the same code but within the terminal emulator.. which I thought I did successfully)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1580571&highlight=ro+kernel+qemu=1

is there a tool or something that can fix permissions without CWM or moving files internally?
[LG Revolution] asauber:
If you already have root you can download an app call fileslick to change permissions on the /data folder so you can paste a new local.prop in there. Although I was able to successfully change permissions and copy my local.prop file, I was still unable to get the OTA update to zv8. :(

Here is a snippet from another post where he is trying to OTA update from vz7 to vz8 while keeping root and reinstalling cwm: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1580987

1 - Using LGNPST, push the ZV7 .tot file.

2 - Factory reset, just in case

3 - Using the OLD AIO (Root&RecoveryAIO), root it (option 1 only!).

4 - Use Check Root app to make sure you have root

5 - Use fileslick app to Change folder permissions and move local.prop file app to

- Open fileslick, click actions, and click show root

- Swipe all the way left until you are at root and see /data folder

- Tap the data folder so it has a green check and then hit actions and select "permisions"

- Check everything in that menu (This will make it so you don't has any permission denied menus when moving the local.prop)

- Put the local.prop file from the "data" folder in the ZV7toZV8Root.zip by tapping it in fileslick, navigating back to the "/data" folder you just set permissions for, clicking "actions" and clicking "copy file to this location"

6 - Go to about this phone in the settings app and check for updates to update ZV8

7 - After reboot use ZV8CWMRecovery.bat (option 1) to install clockwork

8 - After reboot go back and use OLD AIO (Root&RecoveryAIO) to reboot to recovery (option 7)

9 - Reboot recovery and wipe data

10 - After wiping data and without exiting CWM, flash BrokenOut.

11 - DON'T WIPE DATA AFTER FLASH
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] X-disturbed-x:
Hello

i want to ask if anyone knows how to get the Samsung Galaxy SII musicplayer on my arc (stock .42 rooted)?
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArcMan09:
not possible...:cool:
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] sprhr0:
One of the roms i installed for my inspire was ICS and sense 4.0 ported from The ONE V, What's the hold up of getting sense 4.0 out for the VIVID? It was slick.. but all the ICS for inspire are Alpha, and they had things like camera or usb tethering issues those are 2 of my must works inorder for me to use a rom.. I ended up getting a fantastic deal on the VIVID so i used one of my upgrades. back to the question since Sense 4 is out why hasnt anyone ported it
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] megatronisabeast:
The hold is getting people to port it. Not all developers are concerned with that. Sense takes a lot of time to port due to it being intertwined in to the OS.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
Yup. We only have a few devs around, and they're excellent devs. But like megatron said, most of their priorities aren't on a 4.0 port. There is at least one working on a port, last I heard he had run into a snag with the RIL...but was still working on it (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1540442). There are some wonderful 3.6 ROMs floating around though.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] sprhr0:
wasnt sure how intergrated it was, I havent messed with many strictly Android OS, wasnt sure if sense wasnt just a big app running similar to the launchers. I have messed with basic ICS more than basic GB. I had instantly better experience using CoreDroid on my inspire so I never had a desire to load up MIUI or other senseless roms. I wish I had the patience to program. Well looks like I got a damn good phone coming in, for sure a great hold over till the ONEXL or better comes around.. Ill probably run a sense ICS on the vivid.. I really just want he clock from sense 4.0 and any camera enhancements.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
This (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1554077) Sense 4.0 Clock is running OK (flashed wvga/mdpi version). It's obviously not optimized for our screens, but still looks good
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] AdmiralQ:
This clock is better for the Vivid screen: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1558442
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jenkem110:
I cant wait for sense 4.0 to come out. 3.6 is ok
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] sprhr0:
How bout the unbuntu app.. anyone using it.. i was going to hold off until a 2+gb ram phone came out, But I would figure this phone could do real well on it. Plus plugged up to the hdmi on a big screen, bluetooth key board phone as mouse or bt mouse, blue tooth game controller.. Onlive App streaming hd video game service.. Im am really looking forward to this phone almost as much as the next wave of phones coming later this year.. Pocket PC's never died.. they took over the phone market.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] haggardh:
I run Ubuntu on my phone. It works great. No problems
[Atrix 4G General] xpz:
Hello,

I have a problem with my Atrix that's been bugging me ever since i bought it.

Carrier: VIVO

Country: Brazil

Current Version: CM9 jokersax build, android ICS 4.04

Symptom:

- Whenever i receive an SMS, there is a high chance (>80%) that this message will be received again. There are some messages that are received over 20 times.

- Some SMS never arrive (roughly 20% of them)

Early solution:

Back in Froyo (2.2), you could disable cell broadcast in the network configuration, and that, somehow, fixed the problem. But that is not the case now.

In later versions, specially modded versions, there is no such option to enable/disable cell broadcast. I even installed CM9 ICS with high hopes that this would fix the problem. It in fact did work, for a couple of days, then today, it began to receive repeatedly the same SMS over and over again, and some SMS were lost to the void.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
[Atrix 4G General] giqbal:
Maybe its a problem with your carrier?
[Atrix 4G General] kufusoto:
Wrong, it also does this on my phone and I have AT&T
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
When you receive the same text message over and over it can be either your phone or a carrier (sender or receivers carrier).

If your phone is not sending a "message received" signal, the message will be repeated, sometimes for up to 72 hours before it times out with the senders carrier. In this scenario a simple reboot can sometimes fix it. In other cases you may have to pop your SIM into another phone, receive the message (at which point the phone will send the received signal), then put your SIM back in your original phone.

Messages can also get "stuck" and the senders carrier thinks the message has been received when it hasn't, and so stops repeating the message.

There's a bunch of reasons you can have SMS problems. At the end of the day it can be your phone, the senders phone, your carrier, or the senders carrier, and the fault can be hard to trace with the tools the carrier customer service reps have at their disposal.
[Atrix 4G General] kotchishm:
Happened to me on AT&T once. Got the same message 25 times. Was on joxersax 4.4 if I remember correctly. Has not happened on 4.5.1
[Atrix 4G General] soberpoet:
Had same problem... with ics jokersax, I started updating regularly and haven't had a problem yet
[Atrix 4G General] xpz:
I'm currently using jokersax 4.5.1 and it is still happening.

I can only think its a problem related to the "cell broadcast" channels.
[Atrix 4G General] captaincanada84:
Had this happen to me when once I first flasshed Codename Android. Hasnt happened since though.
[Atrix 4G General] beatphreek:
I get this from time to time when someone texts me and for whatever reason my phone doesn't have signal. Typically its because I am rebooting it or its off for some reason.

Any new messages sent from the person (almost always the wife) come across as the stuck text.

I typically pull the battery and reboot once or twice to clear it.

It seems like you have a more persistent issue though.

Sent from my Atrix 4G running CM9.
[Atrix 4G General] Bruce Lee:
I had that problem too on one of jokersax builds. I tried the reboot which didn't work which could of helped the next step work when I dialed a number then ended it, that seemed to fix my problem.

Sent from my ATRIX using the Premium XDA App
[Atrix 4G General] popi09:
Had this same thing happen to me. Rebooting would fix it sometimes
[Atrix 4G General] xey3x:
I am on Bell and I have had this problem on a few different ROMs now such as CM7 and Joker's CM9, but it does not happen very often and I have not seen this issue in some weeks now.
[General Questions and Answers] HotlipsH:
Ran into a problem today. Starting up the Chrome browser on my PC I noticed all my bookmarks where gone. When I launched Chrome on my Android phone I could see the bookmarks for a second before it synced my Google account and removed even these.

After turning sync off and restoring a backup on my phone I have the bookmarks back. But how do I get them back to my PC Chrome? As soon as I turn on syncing Google syncs the wrong way and remove them from the phone again.

Is there a way to force my phone to update to the web rather then to pull broken data off it? Where are Chrome bookmarks located on the phone? Is there any apparently that let me export my phone e bookmarks?

I found the "Bookmark" file in data/data/com.android.chrome/app_chrome/default

after that it was just a straight copy to my PC C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default
[Motorola Droid RAZR] NCRoadster:
I had the Maxx when it first came out for 2 weeks, but was only getting about 4 hours of screen on time on LTE.

I thought it was defective, so I took it back. Since they didn't have any in stock, I went with an iPhone 4S. The iPhone has great battery life, but it's too boring.

So now I want a Maxx again, but I am wondering how yours are performing now that you had a few cycles on the battery.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rigbyrobot:
It performs better than the droid eris, og droid, and my nook tablet, in terms of battery life. Im a very heavy user and a full charge will last me 10 hours or more. Mind you, i didnt get that type of bat life until i froze the bloat ware. And id guess the iphone does get decent battery life with a inch and a half smaller screen, half the processing power, 3g, and that walled garden of suck that is apple. If your careful not to install apps and widgets that eat up your battery through heavy net and cpu usage, the battery life should kill that fruity phones.
[HTC One X] thermalboyz:
Hi all,

I would like to ask can the One X be controlled by other in-line remote control headphones (Not Beats) which allows you to skip forwards and backwards through your tracklist, as well as pause and resume playback?

If not able to control music then are there any custom ROM/ software which can make the phone to do that?

I know Sensation XE can do all that with any headphones but not sure about the One X.

You comments are much appreciated.
[HTC One X] Nos0x:
Pretty sure my Sennheiser MM50s can change track on it. Get a lot of hissing and audio crackling with them though on the One X
[HTC One X] thermalboyz:
please if someone can update if the ibeats / urbeats can actually control skip/ forward/ pause/ answer call and music with volume up and down?

Mine doesn't come with beats but i have other headphones with in-line remote control. nothing works apart from the answer/ stop/ start. Skip track and volume control doesn't work on all my earphones / headphones. Including my Beats Pro.

so why was that happened if they promote beats?
[HTC One X] nihilist_:
My old HTC Desire headphones with inline control work fine... I can play / pause and skip tracks.... works really well.....

If your controls dont work try a different music player such as Poweramp as that has an option for headphone controls in the settings menu....

Just got some URbeats on order.. I will update when they arrive
[HTC One X] thermalboyz:
Thanks, fortunatly i found a solution.

Download Jays Headset Apps, then all works. (Apart from volume up and down replaced by Press once + Hold and Press twice + Hold). Different from normal volume up/ down button. At the moment i am quite happy with it provided all headphones i tried on works and with the Beats Logo on top.