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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
The updates you're talking about with the Fire are overwhelmingly updates to Amazon's proprietary software, not the underlying version of Android. The updates the Flyer/View have received included proprietary changes, but they're accompanied with updates to the Android software. So it's difficult to compare the updates of the two since the nature of each are different. That said, the Flyer/View already has far more functionality than the Fire ever will do to its hardware and access to the Google Play Store (still sounds weird to say that instead of Android Market). No amount of updates to the Fire will ever get it to level of things the Flyer/View can do. The Flyer/View may or may not see any more official updates (no one here knows for sure), but it's already on a higher level than the Fire as it currently stands.

I assume with book sharing you're referring to the lending of Kindle books. You cannot do this with the View/Flyer with Kindle books you have purchased from Amazon. It's a feature exclusive to Kindle devices. You can install the Kindle app on the View/Flyer and have full access to all of your books, but you can't lend/borrow and you don't have access to Prime library.

By "reader view," are you implying that the webpage is reformatted to allow you to more easily read the text? If so, there are ways of doing this on the Flyer/View. It may require a different browser or app, but it can be done.

Overall, the Flyer/View is a more well-rounded device than the Fire from a hardware point of view with GPS, cameras, and optional cellular connectivity (depending on the model). The quality of the screens are both good, and both devices feel great in the hand (although I like the feel of my View better). The View is better from an Android point of view with full access to the suite of Google Apps (Gmail, Voice, Maps, Play Store, etc.), something that the Fire does not have (quite possibly the biggest software-related point in my opinion). On the other hand, if you're heavily invested in the Amazon ecosystem, and your major concern is reading (including the lending/borrowing of books and accessing the Prime library), the Fire offers more options direct from Amazon. If you're into custom ROMs, the Fire also has a much bigger developer community with a lot more support. But as far as an all-around device for "reading/web/youtube/Netflix with a bright clear screen," the Flyer/View is by far the better device in my opinion.

For me, the answer was simple - a regular Kindle e-ink reader for books (including lending/borrowing and the Prime library) since it's far easier on the eyes anyway and can be read outside, and the View for everything else (plus I can read almost all of my Kindle stuff on the View if I don't have my Kindle close by). The incredibly low prices on both devices make owning both a viable option for many that want the best of both worlds.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dan1101:
"I should also mention that I have a Galaxy note, so I dont "NEED" cameras or anything like that. I just need a nice responsive 7" tablet for reading/web/youtube/Netflix with a bright clear screen.."

The screen itself should be about the same between the Fire and the View.

I was getting ready to get a Fire, then considered a Nook Tablet, then a View. Here are the main advantages of the View over the Fire:

-View has physical volume up/down buttons

-View has a microphone

-View has 2 cameras.

-View has 32GB of storage and a micro-SD slot for up to 32GB more.

-View has GPS

That's off the top of my head.

If the Fire does a good job for you with books and videos, you won't really gain anything by switching to the View.

If you want a tablet that is much more capable and runs a stock Android go for the View.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
A major point that I overlooked in my post. As for the Flyer, it comes in both 16GB and 32GB varieties with the 16GB version being far more prevalent in my experience. Both have expandable storage as well.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
"I assume with book sharing you're referring to the lending of Kindle books. You cannot do this with the View/Flyer with Kindle books you have purchased from Amazon. It's a feature exclusive to Kindle devices. You can install the Kindle app on the View/Flyer and have full access to all of your books, but you can't lend/borrow and you don't have access to Prime library."

No thats book lending.

When you're reading a book, there is a little bubble at the bottom. When you press on the bubble, it takes you into a conversation list with other people that are reading the book. Much like a book club. I think that is a neat feature.

I think the kobo at the something like this no?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
No, there isn't an option for this in the Android Kindle app that I see.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
That's not a huge deal...

So the htc screen wont be much better? I know the duo core thing is not a big deal, the hitch runs fine from the videos I've seen. Any word on ICS? One last thing.. can you take pretty good notes on the flyer? Is it like the galaxy note?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
The screen difference will be marginal at best.

No official word on ICS.

Yes, the Flyer/View use the same basic technology (albeit from different companies I believe, meaning the Note stylus won't work with the Flyer/View), so note taking is very similar if you have the Scribe. I also had a Note for awhile and found the View to be more precise in that regard.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
Wow really.. I think my note is pretty accurate, so the flyer must be nice! I'm going to best buy in hopes of finding a demo.. or maybe sprint..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
They've been discontinued at both Best Buy and Sprint I believe, so it might be difficult to track down any display models in a store, especially that have a Scribe sitting there to use with it.

I've had other people contend that the Note is more precise, but I found the View to be when I had both devices. So chances are, that really means that they're both pretty similar when it comes to accuracy.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sonus:
It may not be in the Kindle app, but it is there in the stock HTC Reader app which I understand is powered by Kobo. I have not used it because all of my ebooks are from non-drm epub sources so while the HTC Reader displays those books perfectly, it does not allow me to use the share option.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
Anyway to read the kindle books on the kobo app? Reason I ask is that kobo has a nicer UI.

I did find a demo at the sprint store, I liked it and found the screen to he a bit more vivid, I wish I would have had the time to really check out, unfortunately we were on a way to a movie, so I had maybe 30seconds with it. Can anyone cement on the speakers, some of you have had the fire so maybe you can give me an idea of the sound quality of the htc vs the fire? I think I'm gonna buy the HTC, I just need a little push lol..

All of you have been a great help.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] devator22:
Just to throw my thoughts in:

I am a college student and I have an internship in an office. I bought the flyer at the beginning of this semester to take notes and other various things at my job. I have used it for a few months now, and I can say that I don't even carry a notebook any more. It has also fully replaced my netbook. I have read several books for class on it, and it has worked well as far as that goes. The speakers are pretty good quality, I find them acceptable for Skype calls and YouTube videos.

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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] shirtlessrabbit4:
the flyer/view has basically one of the greatest displays for reading for its highest pixel density of android tablets (ipad 3 has a much higher resolution tho), and great color production for things other than reading. i love my htc flyer, and i would recommend it, the reading experience is still fantastic even if it lacks fire features, because htc adds their own (such as book sharing, as you mentioned)!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] paultman:
Similar Dilemma

I'm in the same boat, torn between fire and flyer.

For me the flyer was an extra $40, so is $40 worth:

bluetooth

2 cameras

512meg extra ram

8gb extra storage

microSD card reader

a microphone...

Normally I say, yes, of course it is, however of those, the only one that actually matters to me... might be the microSD card reader and extra storage, seeing as the fire only ships with 8GB.

Why are those other features not important to me? Because wherever I have my tablet to use, I will 100% of that time have my iPhone 4 in my pocket which has 2 cameras, 32GB storage, a microphone, etc. If I want to take a picture, i'll certainly use my phone before my tablet, same with skip or voice notes, or voip for that matter. If I had a stupid phone, of course I go with the flyer, but with an iPhone, maybe I stick with the kindle fire...

Another consideration is rom updates, yes flyer is popular, however each rom needs to support all that extra hardware, and often one piece either uses an older/supported version of android, or one piece just doesn't work. For example bluetooth for voip, or the hardware buttons of the flyer. With the Kindle it doesn't have much extra hardware, so not much else to support, therefore the rom updates that come out are more "clean" in my view.

I'm forcing myself to use both for a few days this week and make up my mind. The stylus could turn the tide to the flyer though...

We'll see...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
You are 100% in my boat! Lol the flyer will cost me about $50 more, and you and I have the same train of thought. I have my galaxy note for EVERYTHING, and with me, my gnote is almost as big as the tablets of topic! Lol

I found the speed to be more or less on par with these two tablets. And the htc reader app is a joke, the fire has a better "reading" atmosphere with the ability to change font and word spacing, and the silk browser reader view is a BIG home run.. I still can't shake the feeling I should just get the flyer.. lol
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
The Kindle books are DRM-protected, so unless you want to find a way around that (something we can't discuss on these forums), you have to use the Kindle app for Kindle books.

The Flyer/View have pretty darn good speakers for the size of the tablet. I can't think of a time when I wasn't more than satisfied with them.

You don't have to use the HTC Reader app (although you can adjust the size of the text in the app). There are several different e-reader apps in the Play store that let you adjust font and spacing (and I know the Kindle app will at least let you adjust the font). But the biggest advantage to using the HTC Reader is that it has full integration with the Scribe pen. On Honeycomb, you can use the Scribe with any app, but you'll only be able to use some of the advanced functions of the pen with apps that are optimized for it.

You're definitely right about the Fire having a better "reading atmosphere" though. That's its primary purpose (along with watching video), so Amazon has put a lot of significant thought and design into it. The Flyer/View is very much a multi-purpose device, with the focus spread throughout the device instead of on just a couple areas like the Fire. That's why for people who want a device that is primarily going to be a reading/video device with most of the content coming from Amazon, the Fire is definitely a great option. But for those who want more than that, the Flyer/View offers many more options.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
I just won a like new htc flyer with case and scrib pen for $212 shipped.. :-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Xxul:
Dude, demonoid has all the books u need, the flyer reader app supports the pens and its unbeatable bybany other tablet, om taking notes all the tome, signing documents etc
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] thewadegeek:
I was going through the exact same dilemma, but the Bluetooth made me go with the Flyer! :P I just LOVE being able to stream it from my tablet to my wireless speaker, it makes life easy!! :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
I got a flyer... Seems OK for now, not that much better if any against the kindle.. just my opinion, but I've only had it a few hours..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] butterflygirl:
The Kindle is good if you mainly want a media consumption device (streaming video, music and ebooks). Light web surfing is OK too. However, you can do all that with flyer/view plus GPS, Bluetooth, extra storage available with SD card, and pen integration. I think the flyer is a much more robust device. And yes, I do have both. The main time I choose the Fire over the View is streaming from Amazon, because it is simpler on the Fire.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
its a bit faster, but got one randome reboot, and a bunch of force closes...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dan1101:
Is the apps you are using? That sort of thing has been very rare for me on the View.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
The force closing has stopped for the most part. Anyway to turn off the HTC keyboard haptic feedback? I'm loving the quill app. I got a new flyer with a case and an HTC pen for $200 +$10 shipping... So I'm over all happy.. the battery life seems kind of iffy... I'm an android pro and know how to go about squeezing life from my battery. I love the scrib, so if I upgraded it would be to a galaxy note 10.1,
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
i figured out how to turn off the vibrate on the HTC keyboard.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Thremix:
ok, after a few days I can say I'm very happy with my flyer and will be keeping it until the galaxy note 7, well until galaxy note 7 has been out and I can buy it at a bargain price..

The force closing has not happend for some time now and no random reboots. My web browser, has crashed but it crashed on my galaxy note so that can't be the flyer....
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dan1101:
My favorite browser is Opera, followed by Dolphin.

Glad you are enjoying the Flyer.
[LG Optimus Black] ramycrc:
Hi i have Plantronics 903+ stereo bluetooth headset and Lg OB with zeus 6.1 rom and I have instaled Voice speed dial from Cyberon. Without bluetooth headset the Voice speed dial works fine, but with bluetooth headset connected then I press 2 sec on call button from my headset Voice speed dial start but i can't hear that beep (like my other phone Samsung galaxy mini) and the mic seems to be lock because i hear a noise in headset, and the Voice speed dial does not react at all. I try with other program for voice dial and the same result the mic don't work with voice dialer. then I receive or make a call from my phone the headset mic work fine. The same thing happens with another headset plantronics voyager 420. Please help me to solve this problem. Sorry my English.
[LG Optimus Black] ramycrc:
Is no one to know a solution for voice call?
[LG Optimus Black] ogremount:
There are a lot of issues with Bluetooth in general(at least for me). I tried few different headsets and they only work for voice calls and music.

No work for voice dialling, no VOIP programs work etc.

Really frustrating.

Tried with stock ROMs, CM nightly, CM rc1, Zeus.

Something is really fishy with this phone.

I never had such issues with my old phones.
[LG Optimus Black] Uber-Noober:
No voice dial via bluetooth headset

Yup. Me too. This sucks kinda royally. And hand held devices are illegal while driving where I live. Crud

I'm running Marvel 11 ICS Rom on a LG Optimus Black P970G and using a Motorola H520 headset.

I'm finding it mildly astonishing that so many people are having the same problem and that the developers aren't all over a solution. This must be a monster of a problem... :p

One more thing to add is that I rooted the phone and flashed from the factory Gingerbread. On the factory ROM, the Bluetooth headset worked just fine.
[HTC One X] JoOoSs:
Hi,

I faced an annoying bug : i can't unlock my phone, i can't slide the ring to the top.

I tried to force close HTC Lockscreen but it doesn't seem to resolve the problem, i have to reboot.

Anyone have the same problem ?
[HTC One X] jazznaura:
you may have to try a factory reset from the bootloader.

turn phone off then restart holding down power button & volume down.:D

remember u will loose all ur data !!
[HTC One X] myaky:
Hi. I'm facing the same problem. And I bought mt HOX 12 days ago :confused: Also when I try to make a call, instead of calling, it is taking me to the Groups screen.

I've restared the phone a couple of times, tried to restore factory settings, but the problem persists.

yet the phone responds to the above for a few hours a day

Any ideas? I do not want to sent it to service. not yet!

thank you!
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
Does it have the problems when charging?
[HTC One X] glukosio:
did you unlocked bootloader of your phone? do you have a custom rom?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdog1o1:
My phone doesn't connect to the USB of any computer anymore with everything I've tried so I just wanted to know if someone can tell me the Long way on rooting my Nexus S, it's already unlocked I just need it rooted.

I remember seeing that there is a long way someone was talking about it.

Thank you for your help.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] polobunny:
Or you make it "connect" to your computer, which will save you a hassle down the road. The drivers are likely not installed properly.

I always suggest using the PDANet Android drivers, usually detects the phone right up.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdog1o1:
To be honest, I've tried everything that everyone has suggest. Even called up Samsung and they couldn't help me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdog1o1:
does anybody know the long way on rooting the nexus s without using the computer?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
there is no long way, thats the beauty of owning a nexus device. if youre already unlocked, just flash a custom recovery via fastboot(need the drivers) then flash a custom rom. have you tried using a different usb chord? they do "die" frequently.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdog1o1:
I have like 5 different USB chords and it only charges my phone that's all
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkhShadow:
If you phone can't connect to PC then being unlocked doesn't matter, if anything that makes it much harder to return it if required

Simply, no USB=no root

Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] SimonsNrg70:
I have installed the recovery on Galaxy Next (Mini) with firmware 2.3.5 S5570XWKS2 (Italy brand Vodafone) but on SamMobile don't find this firmware, I have find the S5570MJKS2 but for SamMobile this firmware is for Italy Brand Vodafone! This firmware are different or this two firmware are equal?? Please help me!:(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elesbb:
I finally got my stuff copied to my 4gb sd card. However, after installing Dorimanx Kernel 5.7 with my initrd.gz file, it wont boot at all. What am i doing wrong?

I used Linux Disk utility to create a linux swap partition.

My ROM is Hyperdroid 5.10.22

Thanks to everyone!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shanman-2:
use cwm to do it??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elesbb:
Yes i did. then i used Ubuntu, to get rid of the sd-ext partition as i do not want one but apparantly you must have one.

UPDATE: i got it working but now i cant restore my ****ing data back to my device. It just hangs again. This is really pissing me off..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shanman-2:
****!! Might have something to do with sdext partition, like a script that just found it..

use fikret kernel;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elesbb:
Well i went back to my 2GB card, without the partitions. And redid everything. Now im trying this using my 4GB card.. Hoping to god it works. However, when i ran quadrant with zram installed. I didnt get any better of a reading then before. Which i should have since i have zram on.

EDIT: Well that didnt do ****. It booted but it says i have 92MB free space. I think im going back and just using it without zram. i was hoping zram would make things load faster and make it overall faster but **** all this **** lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nigeldg:
Yeah zram didn't help me. I'm not sure if I installed it incorrectly or something but I saw literally no difference when I flashed it. Also, didn't you at least make a CWM or Titanium Backup backup before flashing?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elesbb:
Yeah i did, but after enabling zram and SD-ext data, i tried restoring my data from the CWM img. But then it wouldnt even boot. So now i actually just switched to dorimanx ROM and i have sd-ext which is working properly, but again my benchmark isnt much different. I really would like to know how people get such high benchmarks. I know its only the I/O that makes these high benchmarks but a high I/O is actually good when it comes to playing games. It can read the data much faster.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] randy6470:
rooted to eclipse 1.4 how do i get wifi
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mroneeyedboh:
Does anyone have the client APK so I can use the my Verizon app? I'm on gummy cdma.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lordgodgeneral:
Whats not working? You probably need to download the Verizon Login app, you need this for most Verizon apps to work. Then the My Verizon should fire up for you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mroneeyedboh:
I can't find it in the market
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
Verizon Login

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...3RyaWNpdHkudmVyaXpvbi5zc29kb3dubG9hZGFibGUiXQ

My Verizon for Galaxy Nexus

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS52encuaHNzLm15dmVyaXpvbmdlZCJd
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mroneeyedboh:
it says my phone isn't compatible..im on latest gummy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] heartisall:
Try this one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eromrab:
Thanks heartisall, I have been using the My Verizon app over wifi to get it to work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mroneeyedboh:
thanks,.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] heartisall:
No Problem, There's a button for that ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tomyk89:
THANK YOU!!!!!

im rooted running AOKP m5 and i couldnt get "my verizon" to work and "verizon login" didnt show as compatible with my phone.

manually installed this and now everything works. thanks!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] np231:
Nice one. This sums it up really well. We can experience all these things thanks to CM9 on SGSII

http://www.thegadgetmasters.com/201...ice-cream-sandwich-is-better-than-apples-ios/
[Galaxy S II General] valentinrascu:
Maybe 2 reasons....not 10. :)

Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II General] aydc:
I believe people who spend their time making such lists are simply jealous of iPhone owners.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
LMAO at that article, especially on the fast incoming call response point.

Jesus, we need you, again.