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[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
Hi, i just have a question of what the vm heap size should be. because normally its on 62 and ive see on the forums that the best is 32,96 or 109 ???

I recently got a scare because it was recomended to put it to 24 and my phone at the moment is rebooting randomly and over and over again.

i used blade buddy to change the vm heap.but i can just remove my memory card so it didn't load blade buddy and it will work. but as soon as i put it back in my problems start again.

I have changed to vm heap back to default quickly then saved back to 62 but its still rebooting over and over again.

Rooted with no rom.

What can i do???:mad::mad::mad:
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
You got adb on your PC??

Link here for use of adb on Win 7...

http://dottech.org/tipsntricks/2153...ows-computer-for-use-with-your-android-phone/

Ensure USB Debugging set/checked.....

Connect to PC, open Administrator Command Prompt

you can modify the build.prop heap entry:

ADB pull /system/build.prop c:\

build.prop will copy to the c:\ [root] on your PC......

Open file with editor, like Notepad.....

change line

dalvik.vm.heapsize=24m to dalvik.vm.heapsize=48m

Save file build.prop

Then:

ADB remount

ADB push c:\build.prop /system/

ADB reboot
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
Sorry....my bad above.......

Are you in boot-loop...so you can't start adb!!!!!

Maybe from Recovery...will check

Also, you can modify Build.prop as above with Root Explorer or ES [Root]

When you have no SD card in!!!!

I would try, check values first, then change from 24 to 48

Sorry if I mis-lead at first....
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
The boot cycles

The boot cycles only happen if im just idle on my adw launcher and doing nothing.I think its got something to do with .android_secure folder with all my apps installed to. at the moment i have connected to my usb mass storage and its working fine.:rolleyes:

:confused:-im going to copy the secure folder to my laptop then delete it on my phone.

-Also i have changed my vm heap to 96 or minimum of 62.

and why does my sd card make my phone crazy????
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
.android_secure is where your moved Apps are.....

path is /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/.android_secure

If you have CWM Recovery, you can try fix permissions.....

it usually sorts out apps which are force closing or causing random re-boots....

Why do you want to delete your .android_secure.....you would lose all moved Apps

do you mean back-up??

Which is good, as this is not done by our ClockworkMod Recovery....

Also, to modify VM Heap, try VM Heap tool free from Market.

I think 48m is good for our phone......96 is too high!!

Also, you could try new Launcher, Launcher Pro or Zeam are good......

getting back to SD Card, have you as you say, back up full SD to PC, including all hidden files and folders.....

then Format from phone...Settings/Storage/Unmount SD card......then Format SD card.......

this erases everything, so make sure you do back-up!!!

Mount SD again......Connect to PC via USB Cable, and then restore back up from PC...
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
Hay fayosi....

How come you did not mention the V6 SuperCharge in this thread....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24678243&postcount=13

it may be relevant :confused: to understand your Boot-loop or Random rebooting question!!!

You sure you did unsupercharge menu option in script!!!

Wrong options in script could cause boot-loops!!!

What options did you choose when you ran it.....
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
im new to the forum things such as links,font,ect.

-i chose options 2 then 6 as it said. the to uninstall it is chose 13,14 then 15.

-if i usb storage with my computer my phone works fine.

-if i remove my memory card it works aswell

-anyway.. how do i back up my phone then restore it after a wipe because i dont have enough space for full titanium backup :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] snwman:
Only use Titanium Backup to delete apps or whatever else you need it for. Do not backup with it...

You can make a backup with clockworkmod to your external micro sd card. And honestly its the best way to make a backup.

It only takes 10minutes to make a backup with it and you can delete your old back up when you made a new one. And you will never have a problem
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] yewsiong:
U mean if ur phone without memory card/usb storage on it, it is working normally? If this is the case, I suggest formatting ur memory card 1st and then try it with ur phone again. Of course, u can copy ur important data to pc before formatting.

CWM doesn't backup ur apps on external_sd. Only titanium can make a full backup of apps.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
How would i do it???

-i have apps on my sd card and how do i back them up because off my phone resetting after 25secs when its in.?

-can i literally copy the sd card file onto my computer then paste back After because i tried it before and when i put just my apps back my sd card it does the rebooting cycles.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
Hi fayosi....sorry was away for a day...kinda busy!!!

Just how did you move Apps to SD?

Did you use Apps2SD or native Android App2SD...

Native, in-built, Gingerbread Apsp2SD is like this:

Settings/Applications/Manage applications/On SD Card Tab

Apps which have been moved will have check mark in box on RHS....e.g. Amazon Kindle in pic.

Other Apps which can be moved are listed here, without check in box.

You have to tap on App you want to move, and then it's App Info page will open where you can then move App.

However, there is also free from Google Play App called App2SD, which has GUI to partially automate the process of moving downloaded Apps.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.app2sd&feature

You will get a Notification in the notification bar telling you the App can be moved to SD...

App2SD Notification....top left notification

I will continue when I have more time...maybe tomorrow......

But, perhaps you have moved an App, which should not be on SD!!

I don't know, you use Link2SD......anyway, moer later!!

edit: Backing up from SD, can you use Card Reader, or adapter in Laptop??
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
.ASEC

i really mean on sd card .andriod_secure folder and as an example

-com.rovio.angrybirdsspace.ads-1.asec these FILES are the ones causing to reboot not the angry birds space.,
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
Hi fayosi......how are you??

ASEC = Android Secure

Just can I quote this, regarding the .asec files:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/f7d11237744fe5fa

This is Googles answer to questions about security and .android_secure

Those asec files you ask about, on your SD card, these are your moved Apps....

[I still do not know how you moved them....what was your procedure???]

but they are encrypted, and have symbolic links in your phone memory which allows them to be unencrypted and used as normal Internal Unencrypted Apps.

I post a pic of my SD Card Back-up, which shows those .asec files in .android_secure folder [My Moved Apps]:

Compare with same folder as viewed from device by Storage Analyser App:

As you can see, the Apps shown in Storage Analyser correspond with the .asec files in .android_secure folder on SD Card......

Now, what App on your SD card is causing your Boot-loop problem??? That is the question......

more later, if you are interested, and give more info!!!
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] yewsiong:
But they are part of the angry birds space apps. I recommend u to delete this file and uninstall angry bird space. Try to reinstall it and see whether bootloop could happen.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
As I said earlier...these files essentially are his moved Apps.....

How is it concluded that this angry bird App us to blame, or some other App is not??

What is this conclusion based on??

First it was VM heap, then V6 SC, then the SD card, now some random App....

I ask how Apps were moved.... coz some Apps don't behave well if force moved to SD....they are not designed by Dev to be there...
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
Sorry for confusion.

i was just using angry birds as an example for these files.

also i was using the normal app to sd already on my phone to move the files.

EDIT: IF i leave my phone rebooting for about 15 mins it finally stops the rebooting process:D:) . now im titanium backup for all sd apps.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
Man, I am trying to help you, but you gotta tell when and under what circumstance your phone started this boot-loop problem????

So far, you have blamed applying V6 SC, after that your phone started this botloop stuff:

then you blamed Blade Buddy, changing Heap size, after that bootloop started:

And there have been numerous other reasons given......

BTW, is Blade Buddy on your SD, cos it should not be....it shows in App2SD as an App which can't be moved, strictly on the Phone???

So, unless you can give definitive root cause for these boot-loops, like

when did this actually start??

after you did what???

there is no point taking a guess that it might be SD card, or it may be V6 SC, or Heap size, or whatever.......

It is obviously something you did, so can you remember back to when it started, what did you do just before that!!!!

Also, what did you do to change Version from 2.3.6 to 2.3.5:

So, what ROM or Firmware did you flash, and how??

Other than telling you to flash back to Stock, and wipe your SD card, I just don't know!!!
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
Okay thanks. i will check that blade buddy is on my internal memory.

and i dont know how i went back in version no clue im on stock rom. that really does not bother me anymore 2.3.5?
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
I give up......someone else please??
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
no no no. you helped be alot my phone is not at all doing anymore rebooting cycles at random thanks for all of your help.:) :)

-the formatting/wiping my memory card really did the magic for me.

-thanks for all of your help "irishpancake" without your help my phones would be going crazy.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
Man, you are welcome....don't know exactly what cleared the problem, but it is good that it's now OK!!!

BTW, really, how did you go from 2.3.6 to 2.3.5 without flashing new FW or ROM??

If you don't know, you really should find out, as it is probably something you will need to do again in the future....

I mean download and flash FW updates, new ROM's etc......:D :D

Cheers...IP
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] fayosi:
???? 2.3.5

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

I don't really go into the ROM/FLASHING/KERNEL territory because I'm a total newbie when it comes to that. i will mess up and hard brick it. LoL

I absolutely have no clue how it went back in android version. If choose the update option it says I'm already at the latest.

and i really don't care that, i went back because there is no difference i can visually see at the moment .

I definitely know i didn't do any things that you suggested.

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

EDIT: please don't use the shortened version of words like FW and i see others like OC. i dont know what they mean at all.

and thanks again :)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] irishpancake:
FW = FirmWare....

OC = Over Clock[ed].....

Good Noob Guide:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=900905

Ha ha ....just noticed by The_Error

Perhaps related to THE-E!!!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] srinivas07:
Hi friends can you pls share me android basics and tuts. .i am very much intersted on android. . .i leared to create boot animations and live wallpapers. .

I want to develop a rom. .pls guys share me tuts and basics. .

Thanx in advance:)

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By the Way Why dont we Have Dual Boot Kernel??
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mike_1111:
Rooted x10MP.

What's the best app for wifi tethering the laptop to the phone (I want the laptop to use the internet connection of the phone).

The market shows apps such as:

Barnacle

wifitethering (by opengarden)

wireless tether for root

but I have no experience with any of these.

Would appreciate recommendations.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] -James-:
I tried barnacle wifi tether and its awesome ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Rock Leon:
Barnacle wifi tether is good
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tw1tch175:
When I downloaded and installed swype on my note running ICS is installs the tablet version so the keyboard is way too small, is there an APK of the phone version of some tweak I can use to resize it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Plexicle:
The one over on the international Note works fine with ours.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tw1tch175:
Thanks for the info, for anyone looking I got the Swype from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538901
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lindenhurst:
the small swipe keyboard alone may cause me to go back to stock. It is really way too small.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Coffinfeeder:
SwiftKey beta 3 is much better than swype
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lelouche:
Okay.. so I've tried the new one click method and the manual method but everytime it tries to flash a recovery it says "sending 'recovery' <4136 KB>... FAILED (command write failed (Uknown error))

Any help?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jralabate:
try root toolbox https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lukemovement.roottoolbox.free you can flash recoverys via that app. or get a terminal app for you fone https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImphY2twYWwuYW5kcm9pZHRlcm0iXQ.. the put the recovery .img on the root of your sdcard and in the treminal app do:

su
flash_image recovery /sdcard/{file name with .img} (dont use {})

if you get no error turn off fone then hold Vol. Up and Power till' recovery boots
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lelouche:
Well to be able to do that, I'd need a recovery to flash the su.zip. I'm not roooted yet just havean unlocked bootloader.. I can't flash the customer recovery to flash the such file.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doanduongxd4:
I think you are having hardware problems
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firtvid20:
I am looking for an apps2sd script that will move my apps to my ext partion on my SD card, but ALSO

shows up as internal storage

(it shows the space of the ext partition as internal storage). I heard there was an ICS ROM that did this, so I am looking for the script. Thanks.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firtvid20:
I'm not sure if this is right, but I typed "a2sd xdata" and it made my internal storage bigger. I'm assuming it's the size of my ext partition because it seems to be around the size of it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Closed Source Project:
Try this, this is what I use (on CM7 and MIUI) and it does just that. There is also no "low memory" error messages which occur on other scripts that don't mount as internal:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1310309

Or try the XPART version of QND MIUI (ROM, separate script not available) :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1084726
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firtvid20:
Hmm, I'll try that. The xdata just seemed to reduce my phone's performance cause apps just kept freezing.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firtvid20:
OMG you're a legend this script works wonders thanks!! :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Closed Source Project:
I have been having some issues with xdata recently as well. Apps would take a while to start (many seconds on black screen) and I would get many force closes. I had to go back to S2E for CM7 with much better performance. Sorry to say I don't use that script anymore.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firtvid20:
One thing I noticed about xdata is when i activated it, it told me that it would cause performance issues if the mircosd card wasn't class 6 or 10.
[HTC Sensation] hdjx20:
so how much memory do you guys usually have free. i usually only have about 100-150 free when using no apps i do not quite understand where the other 300 some goes to?
[HTC Sensation] Kohr-Ah:
"Unused RAM is useless RAM"

140-200 Megs. Usually 140-170 is my average
[HTC Sensation] hdjx20:
what rom are you on? and did you remove any htc stuff?

i thought the more free ram you have the smoother/faster youre phone will run.
[HTC Sensation] status_six:
With Android, the more processes and apps kept foreground or alive and using ram, the smoother and faster your UI experience is.

Usually I have 100-120MiB.

sent from HTC Pyramid using Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] int80h:
220mb free / Opensensation
[HTC Sensation] hdjx20:
ive been considering trying cm9 as i had it on my old phone but i feel like i would miss a few things from sense too much!
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
This is how a Windows PC works.

And yes, in that case the more free RAM you have the better.

Android / Linux work a little differently though. They keep programs / apps in resident memory so they are quicker to access later. The assumption is that if you ran the Gmail app once today you're likely to run it again. So it stays in memory. If you want to run something else that needs the memory Gmail is using, Gmail will be shut down and that memory will be reallocated to the new app.

Then when you want to run Gmail app later, it'll take an extra half a second to load it.

Now, the extra half a second doesn't seem like a big deal. But the real savings is battery life.

Every time you take an app out of storage and put it into memory, the processor has to work a little harder. (It's got to find the app, then start it up, etc...) That takes battery power. Not a lot, but it adds up. Additionally battery power has to be used to power the memory chip or SD card where the app is located. So that's more battery power.

By keeping apps in memory, you still use battery power to use the app, but save the power it takes to start the app up. Open 20-30 apps a day and that little bit of extra power adds up.

In the mean time the app that's stored in RAM while it's not being used isn't in anyone's way as it'll be kicked out as soon at that extra RAM is needed.

This is why App Killers are generally a bad thing to let loose and wild on your phone. (Though they do have a valuable purpose when you've got a frozen app)

---------- Post added at 02:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:50 PM ----------

Use Android Revolution HD (Sense 3.6) or Insert Coin (Sense 4.0) then. Both ICS. Both really nice ROM's with some tweaks. Both sense. (And you can even yank Sense out of Android Revolution if you so choose and run it sort of like AOSP.
[HTC Sensation] devotee101:
373MB on Insert Coin Sense 4 RC5
[HTC Sensation] Elchemist:
Running Elegancia 3.50 with several widgets loaded (~5) I average between 220-150MB free.

One tip I was given regarding freeing up more RAM is to use the HTC skin. I have no idea why but if I use any other skin it eats up ~30MB of RAM. This seems to me like an easy way to gain more free RAM without going AOSP and have to miss anything.

One final note is, on my setup I do use the excellent ROM cleaner and I have stripped out everything I don't use, widgets and apps so that definitely helped.

Hope this helps, and I have been wondering the same question as well :)
[HTC Sensation] hdjx20:
i switched back to arhd it runs a lot smoother than 4.0 on my phone although i do like some things a bit more on sense 4. and thanks for the detailed explanation on ram.
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
I average between 200-250MB free on VI 4.0.1 and Sebastians Kernel!
[HTC Sensation] tehjiao:
Mine is 100-140mbs.ARHD is my daily drive now. Waiting for Sense 4.0 from ARHD
[HTC Sensation] namila007:
got 200-280 mb ..
[HTC Sensation] looneylv:
Im on Android RevolutionHD 6.5.5 XE and i've seen that i had got max 240mb of free ram.. usualy my free ram is between 190MB -220MB in stand by on my table at my house... (with wifi on and connected on my home network - now i see 216MB free :) )

and no outside modding just flashed the custom firmware and that's all...
[HTC Sensation] magic.hand:
for me, it's around 150 - 170 with OrDroid 2.0.5
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
The only way RAM can affect speed is how fast the RAM is. Whether I have 800MBs loaded or am running Counterstrike GO and Firefox loaded on top of Windows at 3GB, speed is only affected by what the processor and GPU are doing.
[HTC Sensation] ThatsABigOne:
320-380mb. I find it that more free ram I have, the smoother and faster the phone is.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Its in your imagination. Linux simply doesnt work that way.

I understand that growing up on Windows and DOS you get ingrained with the idea that more free ram= more speed. But Linux simply does not operate that way.
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
Okay, Windows or not, the only time "more free ram = more speed" is if you don't have enough ram and Windows has to unload some **** to load what you're trying to run. Seriously, I don't care where you read it, more free ram doesn't magically increase your speed.

Select text I took from HowStuffWorks, here: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question175.htm

I hate Windows as much as the next guy, but let's not spread misinformation. And to reiterate with an example: If Windows + Firefox + Steam take 1.17GB to run, and I have 2GB total, adding an extra 2GB will do absolutely nothing. It will only help if I have less ram than I need.
[HTC Sensation] ThatsABigOne:
I have numbers to back it up. ;)
[HTC Sensation] lenn-_:
Having about 250 mb free on opensensation, though the stability and speed of the ROM is not really notably changing when using more.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Your numbers are wrong.

More free ram doesnt equal faster processing. Period.
[HTC Sensation] hdjx20:
nvm figured it out. mod please delete
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] densets:
Well, i just tried to install MIUI on my defy+ 2.3.5 and it's stuck on the bootloader screen with white text.

I have a question regarding SFB, never flashed them before. Which one can i flash so i can restore my phone with my old nandroid backup? read somewhere that the new sfb from motorola change the kernel and you can't downgrade so id rather ask before digging a bigger hole.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] binhtop:
If you wat to install MIUI on your defy+ ( like me ), u need to flash the SBF in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1486731

After that u can root via Super one click and install 2nd int, then install miui easily.

If you want to switch back to old defy plus, you just need to flash a SBF with boot loader 6 ( bl6 ).

Note : don't flash SBF with Bl7, u cant root it, means u can do nothing custom to your Defy+
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demail2006:
You should root your phone and install CWM and go with nandroid backup of your rom and install desired rom via CWM to keep downgrade ability for safe side.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrek8421:
I have a defy plus and I flashed it with the following full sbf: "4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage". Everything works well.

Also remember to wipe data,cache after flashing sbf.

Here is how you do it:

1. After flashing completes shutdown phone.

2. Enter bootloader by pressing VOLUP key and simultaneously power button.

3. Then press both VOLUP and VOLDOWN

4. Wipe data/ factory reset.

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What kind of message do you get?

Something like bootloader v9.10 ...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] binhtop:
Yes, every defy+ has 9.10 boot loader, that's bl6 any way
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evolution-VII:
Guys,

I'm facing the same problem.

Defy+ running 2.3.5 and everytime I try to install MIUI (STABLE or ICS BETA) I got stuck in motorola bootloader.

I've already installed the CM9 and everything worked just fine, but with MIUI i'm having this problem.

I flashed a stock rom again, installed 2ndinit 1.4, 2.0, 2.3.

Tried wipe data, cache, dalvik cache and so on.

Does anyone know what I should do to solve this?

Best regards.