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[HTC One S] kadison:
I don't think that's entirely true, apparently only some markets in Asia and Europe will be getting the S3 powered One S.

I have just re-ordered mine as the supplier said they have xx25 serial numbered devices in stock. I have told them I don't want anything less than xx24T and that they should make sure it's the S4 version. I'm sure it will be, but I don't fancy another disappointment so i'm covering everything.

I'll report back when it arrives.
[HTC One S] hunabku:
That chipset issue really sucks.

Update on the condition: tried and plugged a usb connector and there are definately small chips on it. Cannot take a pic atm cause don't own a nice camera(phone) around here.

I can also tell that the MAO coating on the usb port area is very thin.

Also tried to scratch the edges with my fingernail a bit, but it seems there is a little thicker MAO coating there.

(i would appreaciate if you wouldn't lecture me on doing that as being a salesperson ;) )
[HTC One S] Harrysoon:
Which Carphone Warehouse did you go to that they were willing to check serial numbers? I've told my story with Carphone Warehouse a few pages back, where they've been nothing short of useless. I'm on my 4th One S now, and it's the same serial number as yours, so will most likely chip, though it's been a week now and there's nothing on it even around the USB port, which is the longest I've had a One S without chipping.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
I rang them up at Basingstoke (the only store nearby that had any in stock) and explained the situation, then asked if they could please have a look since I would have to take a 30 minute train down there and don't want to waste a journey if they didn't have any 24s. She said they had 241s and 242s so I decided to give it a shot anyway as I was nearing the end of my 28 days. 2 days and no chips yet, maybe it's just luck, maybe the 24s have better coating, who knows? Either way I will keep my eyes peeled for 24Ts or 25s with S4 chip and exchange again if any chips develop on this one.
[HTC One S] kadison:
Well my order for an S4 **24T to **25 One S has come to a halt.

They "couldn't meet my criteria" so asked if I just wanted a refund, which I agreed to.

I think I'm going to buy a One X at this rate :(
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
What do you mean the order has come to a halt? What criteria?
[HTC One S] kadison:
I specified a xx24T or above serial number (which they told me only 2 days ago they had xx25 in stock) and for them to make doubly sure it was the 1.5GHz Snapdragon because of the talk of HTC releasing the S3 powered One S.

They never told me which part of the criteria they couldn't meet :confused:
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Well that's helpful, maybe you can go check it in store?
[HTC One S] Harrysoon:
I'll try asking again sometime before the 28 days for this one is up. This one does seem to have a better coat like you said though.
[HTC One S] hunabku:
I contacted HTC last evening and asked them if the S4 variants will be available anytime later in the summer. Waiting for the response and then letting you know.

ATM i'm having a dilemma of choosing the colour. There is still a high risk of the MAO to be chipped later in the usage anyway.

But the gray one doesn't seem that bright, or i dunno, my first impression about them was "whoa i want that black & red" :)

What you think?
[HTC One S] h.han:
I was on the same boat as you are when I first saw one s, but only until I went to a shop and saw the real thing myself. At that time the black chipping problem was not big yet.

At the first look, I immediately fell in love with the blue one. It is a little shiny, but not much, the gradient colour on the back is just simply brilliant and adds interesting feature to the phone, unlike the black one which is just pure black (not to say black is bad, just different). the longer I eye on it, the more I like it. It feels very professional and at the same time, very smart!

No need to mention chipping issue which you don't need to worry on the blue one at all.

Only thing is it is very slippery, I mean, to the degree that you should have a case on it to add a bit grip or drop it on the floor sooner or later. That's why I was hunting a pure clear case.

However, it's your decision of which to choose. best advice is to try both in your local shop, and act quickly since s3 version of one s is coming...
[HTC One S] hunabku:
a question about Snapdragon chipsets. does s3 consume less power than a S4?
[HTC One S] Big_Den:
Complete opposite.
[HTC One S] Harrysoon:
I'd get a blue one myself, if I could find a Carphone Warehouse that stocked them. I've been to 5 different stores, Lancaster, Torquay, both stores in Clapham, and a Covent Garden and none of them had it, just a black one.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Day 3 with the new HT242 model and I have my first chip. Yay!
[HTC One S] h.han:
Why CPW? Phones4u sells blue one, SIM free also.
[HTC One S] restlessthing:
Hi guys

Got my One S on Sunday- I don't have any chipping, however the thing has scratched damn easily. Tiny scratches all over and one big one (I say big... 1x5mm), very shallow but can see the aluminium through so it's obvious as anything. I haven't dropped it once, it's lived in the HTC pouch.

I emailed HTC and they were surprisingly helpful- once we'd got the stock email out of the way I spoke to a REAL PERSON and he said that this was a failure of the coating and to take it back to Carphone Warehouse. Before I do this I want to check I'm not being a boob and complaining about nothing- the coating should be more than a nanometre thick, right? I wouldn't worry but if it's got little scratches all over after a few days then I can imagine how crappy it'll look in a year. Has anyone else experienced surface scratches rather than chipping? (I have tried to wipe them off. They don't wipe off).

Cheers
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
The One S seems to be disappearing from Carphone Warehouse stores, and they don't know when they're getting any new ones.
[HTC One S] Harrysoon:
I upgraded to my black One S through CPW. Each time I've gone to exchange my phone and asked for the grey/blue one, they say they only have a black one in stock.

I may go in again tomorrow and ask about the 24T ones.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Good luck. Seems all the CPW stores are running out of stock until July. And I fear that the new stock they get might be S3.
[HTC One S] vasp3690:
I had a guy respond to a commend I had done on Amazon discussion about this phone and his remark was: you lie. How can a metal phone chip?

Hahahaha.... how can some people be so gullible... I just do not seem to grasp

sent with SGS3
[HTC One S] Harrysoon:
I'm quite surprised that this phone, touch wood, hasn't chipped or anything. Even the USB port is still chip free and it's been 2 weeks tomorrow since I've had this one. I've been using the pouch I have for it less and less, too, as I get annoyed having to keep taking it out when I wanna use it.
[HTC One S] phonepersonality:
HTC might have to fix their 'ARC Reactor'.

Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! :-)
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
You got lucky. My HT242 got a tiny chip on the top edge. It is really tiny though, but a chip is a chip. And there is definitely some chipping in the USB area.
[HTC One S] Komadyret:
Got mine back after a full body-swap two weeks ago. Looked nice. But Thursday it started chipping again. Had it in my pocket this Saturday at a party, barely had it out, but looks really bad now. Had the chipping registered at the store before the party, so I have the damage on warranty this time too. Getting annoying, but I don't give it up yet. I'll probably have to follow up a couple of more months, but I'll endure ;)
[HTC One S] hunabku:
Looks like the MAO technology for HTC needs radical improvements, before we can be sure that it lasts as it's promised.

At this point none of us can be sure that any One S MAO releases endure for a year without chipping.
[HTC One S] vasp3690:
I admire your patience guys...

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[HTC One S] mannequin:
the "blue" version has an issue of it's own. i'v been using it since the date it was released pretty much and the housing (both metal and plastic parts) on the back is starting to show fade like effect, especially towards the bottom.
[HTC One S] h.han:
Can you post some pics of the back? I have not seen anything abnormal on my grey one s but it may just mean I did not notice.
[HTC One S] --anx--:
It's an "eye mistake" in my opinion: on the back there's a little curvature of the metallic cover that can generate a "fade effect" on the lower part...you can notice it if you look at the phone from its side...

That little curvature makes us to believe into a fade effect...when it isn't there...

At least I believe this is the answer... ;)
[HTC One S] kadison:
:rolleyes:

I've just ordered one of these today as I will not risk another poorly coated black version!

Anyway, I'm sure this is an isolated case as there doesn't seem to be any other reports of it.
[HTC One S] mihanstar:
Hi,

I want to buy HTC ONE S HT25 Balck , Is it S4 or S3? what about issues? which serial better?
[HTC One S] h.han:
It's not known if it's s3 or s4, you have to check the spec on the box, note the s3 has 1.7ghz chip and s4 is 1.5ghz.

Issues? Not sure what you meant but s3 is less powerful and consumes more battery since it's overclocked. Chipping wise, I personally have not seen report of ht25 serial number so it may be better.

Clearly s4 is better.
[HTC One S] el_smurfo:
Umm...might be misunderstanding, but the fade effect is intentional. It is called "gradient blue" after all....
[HTC One S] mihanstar:
Thanks,

What about HTC ONE X? which version is better? or which serial...
[HTC One S] --anx--:
:rolleyes:
[HTC One S] mannequin:
not talking about the gradient on metal of course. you'll see what i'm talking about after a month of use or so. it's a "worn" effect i expected to see at least half a year in but oh well.
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Well, post a screen of that so we can see the faulty thing...
[HTC One S] Harrysoon:
I think to be on the safe side, don't go further than the 24T, judging by earlier comments, anything later like the HT25 could be an S3. A guy posted photos of his 24T device and it had a different USB port. Though I think you should just go with a 24 device either way, they seem less problematic. Some people have chipping issues with them, but it seems fewer with these compared to the 23s. I have a HT242 device for 2 weeks and it has no chips or anything around it.
[HTC One S] kadison:
Received my latest One S today. It is the anodised grey model. Still on the initial charge and as such haven't turned it on (there'd better be no dead pixels! :mad:)

Close inspection revealed all covers fit well and there is no damage to the screen. There is however two very tiny smudges/flaws (possibly handling damage at the factory) next to the speaker but unless you hold it to the light they can't be seen. This is fine with me - at least I won't have to suffer the flaky MAO in a week's time...

The serial number is SH24WW with the 1.5GHz S4 CPU. The USB port is not bevelled and there are tiny bits on it where the anodising process has not adhered. I am accepting this as the edge is so sharp i doubt anything can stick to it! I guess only the black MAO versions are getting the bevelled edge, again I know it shouldn't get any worse with this version so I am satisfied.

Can't wait to turn it on and have a play :)

Edit: If anyone is avoiding the grey one because they prefer the look of the black, hold a grey one in your hand. I preferred the black initially but really like the grey/blue after seeing it and it's nowhere near as slippery as people make it out to be. Can't feel much of a friction difference between it and the black one to be fair.
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
HT258W

I just received yesterday my One S and after 2 full days of looking and phoning to different shops I managed to buy a black one, SN: HT258W with S4 1,5 GHz processor. I can confirm it was made for Germany as when I turn on the phone I can see the T-Mobile logo. The phone is not locked and the box was manufacturer sealed. So far no chips on the body but I will wait 1-2 weeks and post again here.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
What does your USB port look like, is it like the old style or new beveled style?
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
I really don't know the difference between the 2 USB types and I don't have a good camera close by so that I can upload a photo of it. If you can explain how to spot the difference I can answer your question.
[HTC One S] Co5min:
I bought mine one week ago and spotted first chip after 2 days. Yesterday, I saw another one. Both are very small, located on the upper sharp edge. It`s the black version, serial HT23. Not to mention that I`ve been very careful and handled the phone like a small baby.
[HTC One S] vasp3690:
Take it back soon and try for a later serial number

sent with SGS3
[HTC One S] Co5min:
I`ll stay one more week and see whether or not is getting any worse.
[HTC One S] pumpernickel77:
Just get the gray one, at least you know they'll be no chipping issues with it. I think its better than the black one anywhere.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Check out this pic

http://www.android-hilfe.de/attachm...38285201-verarbeitungsfehler-beim-one-s-1.jpg

The black one is the new style (with the small bevel around the edges) and the silver one is the old style (sharp edge).
[HTC One S] mattmann95:
I assume the black will come off with normal use (sliding in and out of pocket) If you drop it, it does not matter what it was made out of, it will damage. Just get a nice looking case! But i have heard of this problem before :cyclops:
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
Ok, I understood now the difference. I can confirm that HT258W is the old model, with straight usb edges.
[HTC One S] vasp3690:
That is VERY interesting. Makes me think if htc is actually mocking users by making a fee phones with photos leaking out to show they fixed the problem and yet a phone with 25 serial number is still like the older version!

sent with SGS3
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
That's really weird. I thought everything after SH/HT24T onwards was the new style. Any chips?
[HTC One S] hemingway60:
Are you sure about this? The HTC One S here also has the serial 25 and I'm sure it looks like the redesigned One S in the pictures, with that slight bevel inwards.
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
I have it for 3 days now and I didn't drop it or anything so no chips yet on the upper side and I hope they won't appear. I have 2-3 small chips exactly on the USB edge, it's from the USB cable, I have to admit I don't manage to put the cable exactly in the USB plug without bumping in the edges. It's hard to do this at night. I took a look at the picture I made and it seems there are more chips around the USB socket, they are not visible to the eye, but the flash from the camera captured them.

I'm 110% sure, I wanted to post a picture but my camera can't focus on such a short distance. I repeat, my One S has straight edges around USB port, there are no slight bevel inwards what so ever, everything is 90 degress straight.

Edit: Take a look at the picture attached, It's the best p[icture I could do out of 10 tries.
[HTC One S] vasp3690:
Yup. That looks like the good old 23serial number and chipping under way....

Seems that this will be yet another crash and burn for HTC...

sent with SGS3
[HTC One S] Joh@n:
This is my One S starting with HT24 (as far as i can remember). All pictures are clickable.

Bottom right

Top left

USB

According to HTC this is damage due to dropping the phone. Also the damage at the USB port is caused by misusing it and therefore considered as out of warranty. This is really ridiculous, the phone was 5 days old when these "scratches" appeared. I spent 40 min on the phone with HTC and the repair company (Dynafix) last Friday, but I don't think it will be exchanged for a new one. The Vodafone store where I bought the phone was not willing to exchange it and referred me to HTC. The only thing HTC does is referring me to Dynafix and give arguments which are not valid at all and incorrect.

It really pisses me off that such a known issue is not solved in time and correctly by HTC, my phone is already 3 weeks away now.
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
HTC will be punished severily after these problems with a "State of the art" device: a lot of loyal customers, including me, will migrate towards other brands that provide similar phones but better quality for the same price (eg: Samsung). I really don't understand them, they are not selling pencils but they are selling hundreds of euro devices. Is it too much to ask that a device runs as promised? And if you messed up, isn't it normal to assume your responsability and fix the problems?

I have a strange feeling that HTC's behavior will bring them a lot of group lowsuites and their losses will be much higher then what they would loose by fixing the devices.

I strongly suggest everyone having hardware or body problems with your HTC One device to try and solve this problem with HTC but only using regular mail, that can be used as proof in a lawsuit, and if they deny their responsability you should start groups and file a lawsuit against HTC. If they were advertising this device as a scratch-proof device they can't put the blame on the customers by saying that the chipping (at least around the USB socket) is due to faulty usage. It's perfectly normal that you won't be able to plug your cable everytime without hitting the edges a bit and chipping shouldn't occur in this situation.
[HTC One S] Co5min:
I`m on my second week since I`ve been owning the phone and no other chips occured apart of those 2 I got after first two days. I`ve ordered today a thermoplastic polyurethane case -my intention was not to buy any case for it as it`s a darn good looking phone but I`m afraid not to get any other chips so....I have to cope with this turn of events. Having that said, very disapointed by HTC as apart of this build quality issue I`m facing Wifi and signal drops, as well. My first HTC and the last... :(
[HTC One S] Harrysoon:
The guy I've been talking to about the problem via HTC Customer Support acknowledges the problem, and just says to return it to the store, or I can do it through HTC, but I don't wanna go about 3 weeks with no phone.

I'm on my 4th One S now, I've had it 3 weeks, it's a HT242 s/n and I have no chips or anything around the case or the USB port. The woman in Carphone Warehouse said I may just get lucky with this one and not have any issues with it, which seems to be so. Though knowing my luck it'll start after the 28 days exchange period.

I've had enough of fannying around exchanging it and having to get it all setup again. This one seems to be going strong, so just gonna stick with it as I do love the phone.
[HTC One S] hunabku:
COME ON now! Post the pics, or are you lying?
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
My 5th day with the HT258W One S and no chips on the upper side of the phone. However, big problems with loosing WiFi signal and carrier signal when I put my hand on the upper side of the phone.

I really love this phone, it's very fast, but HTC's lack of care for its customers will definitely push me towards other brands in the near future.
[HTC One S] dtosun:
Could you share your phone photo? Is USB beveled or not?
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
Take a look at the second post on page 95, I said it is not USB beveled and I attached a photo of the USB socket.
[HTC One S] dtosun:
Sorry, I could not see it. I am afraid i will have chipping issue when i buy it? Do you have touch button issue?
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
Take a look at page 95, second post. I don't have touch button issue, everything works like a charm, except for WiFi signal and carrier signal. I also noticed that when I gently hit with my finger the upper side of the phone I can hear a small noise like something is loose inside. I didn't drop the phone and handled it very carefully. I had the exact same problem with HTC Desire and it turned out to be a problem with the speaker.

I can't suggest to buy or not to buy this phone, it's completely up to you. Just read all posts and topics before making a choise.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
I'm still baffled why the HT25 is not the redesigned one. Carphone Warehouse is getting a new supply of One Ss this weekend (according to customer services) and that will be the last week of me 28 day window with my second One S, which is an HT242 and already has some large chips around the top edge. I thought everything after HT24T was redesigned :( But now it looks like I'm either gonna get another model which will chip in a week, or worse, an S3 chip.
[HTC One S] h.han:
It may have something to do with where the phone is manufactured. HTC cannot change the process at every factory at the same time. The first two letters indicate where it's made, as I remember, locations are Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Taiwan. But cannot remember which letters mean what location. Can someone dig that out I have to do something else or I can try to find out later in the evening and post back.
[HTC One S] Bogdan991:
My One S's SN starts with HT and it's made in Taiwan.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Yeah, HT is Taiwan and SH is Shanghai I think. Dunno about a third serial number code. If that's the case then I guess HT and SH aren't interchangeable, HT redesigned models must be beyond HT25 :(
[HTC One S] hemingway60:
Not necessarily . The HTC One S here serial number is HT25RW and is definitely the redesigned One S. It comes with the S3 chip though so I'm waiting a little bit more to see if any S4 versions will arrive.
[HTC One S] h.han:
So here it is the one from Jobo, it has redesigned beveled USB port and sn number is SH24TW not HTxxx.

It might mean SH24 plus is safe but just my guess.

Sorry Jobo, could you please let us know how the phone is now.
[HTC One S] rogerhcd:
To return or not to return?

My One S is 2 weeks old and showing a loss of its coating on the sharp edge next to the power button.

It has a SN beginning SH244W.

I don't want to go to the hassle of returning it if the replacement will be similarly affected (I bought it Sim Free off amazon).

I also don't want to risk a S3 processor as a replacement.

My feeling is to stick with the phone as I feel it is a fantastic phone otherwise and the loss of coating is barely noticeable but I am concerned that it may get a lot worse in the near future.

Other peoples experience seems to be that a lot of replacements are similarly affected.

How many people have had a replacement that has been Ok (so far).
[HTC One S] vasp3690:
The responce to that would be only 2 from this large thread..personally its only going to be a matter of time.

I bought mine from amazon and gave back 3 handsets before a refund.

No matter how good the phone looks, it doesn't replace HTC's incompetence.

I know I am being harsh but that's just the way it is when the company on may occasions doesn't even acknowledge the existance of the problem.

sent with WSGS3
[HTC One S] touch of jobo:
It's a month old today. Held up through two mild drops and a 10 day trip through 5 airports. No case, no screen protector, no damage.

If I wipe a cloth over it, the body and the glass look like new. Only the sim cover and the bottom bit get a bit smudgy, uneven glossiness/mattitude.

Haven't dropped it anymore after the 1st week, haven't carried it in pocket together with keys, coins, diamonds, I try to be careful when plugging in USB but it's a bit fiddly.

I don't want to jinx it but I'm beginning to think I have a good one..

I wouldn't even mind if it showed some signs of use. I don't expect it to look new forever. As long as all the black bits are black and no chipping or scratching.

-Jobo
[HTC One S] vasp3690:
That's good. Finally one that made it through a month without a case!

sent with WSGS3
[HTC One S] rpedrica:
SH23NW: 2 months in pocket without a case and another 2 months with gel case, no scratches or chips. I really don't know why mine is fine but this is one hell of a phone. My Desire was a tank, this one is even better.

Sad to hear of those who have had issues. I wonder what % of One S users have had issues?

Robby