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[Motorola Photon 4G] Zwomg Im Bad:
Yeh, tried that lmao. And i tried clearing market updater, tried downloading older version, i tried alot of things i just gave up haha.

But I'll post about this on a different thread, we gotta stay on topic. Thanks for trying to help me!
[Motorola Photon 4G] DualSportDad:
I flashed back last night and tried taking pictures with dark light.... I found if I use the button on the screen instead of the button on the side of the phone it takes much better pictures. All in all I can't wait till this Rome gets the bugs worked out.... but to be on topic it is a pretty good daily rom.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Zwomg Im Bad:
oDepani andSportDad;24897902]I flashed back last night and tried taking pictures with dark light.... I found if I use the button on the screen instead of the button on the side of the phone it takes much better pictures. All in all I can't wait till this Rome gets the bugs worked out.... but to be on topic it is a pretty good daily rom.

True. Very true. I've found that the vibrate goes on/ off though. Doesn't bother me, but it ciuld bother others
[Motorola Photon 4G] CCallahan:
I will only comment on a few items because we could go about this all day with really no positive outcome and the thread will be hijacked.

First, I am not doing anything wrong. This is not my first rodeo. Yes, I know about the battery "conditioning" steps at the end of your post. This is part of flashing 101. With what I am running on my phone it just wasn't the life I needed it to be.

With that said I agree with you on CM9 exceeding expectations. Great rom but OP was looking for a stable rom and beta versions have bugs.

We can agree to disagree and put it to rest? :)
[Xoom General] Tiger62651:
I decided to send my Xoom for the lte upgrade cause I wanted ics. I just got it back. Powered it on enabled the lte just to activate it like Verizon said and noticed low signal. Switched back to cdma mode for 3g and noticed same power, 50%. Before the upgrade I had near 100% sitting in house. This was before I rooted and installed ics. So didn't think anything till I took it to work where I was able to use it fine in the building but now has troubles staying connect to the cdma mode that I have it set to. Sitting in parking lot enabled lte saw again 50% signal, disabled it then used cdma also 50% where I used to have 100%.

I have read several issues about this upgrade but no resolution. I am about to open it up and verify the antenna connectors arent damaged and installed properly but seeing if there is any other solutions. Tried the reinsert sim card and no go.
[Xoom General] Tiger62651:
Well opened up my Xoom at work and checked all the antenna cables and connectors under a scope and only thing I found was cold solder joints on pretty much all connectors. Cleaned these up and reflowed the solder and noticed in building when powering up connecting to 4g happened faster. Now at home switched to cdma and have almost full signal once again. So those who had problems may be good idea to send to friend or someone to inspect these connectors.
[HTC Rezound] V0latyle:
I'm running Scott's CleanRom 4.3, using Wireless Tether for Root Users to provide a hotspot for my laptop. Works great using Wifi Tether 3.1 b11 and up...for those wondering, here's how to set it up:

Device profile: Generic ICS works beautifully, so does Samsung Galaxy Nexus LTE. I think there's a little less latency using Generic ICS.

Setup Method: netd (master)

Wifi driver reload: Check ON.

Routing fix: check ON.

Should work on both LTE and 3G.

Now for the problem...

Open up your favorite browser and put your connection to good use (if you can spare the data, or have an unlimited plan...I am not responsible for carrier surcharges). Watch a ton of YouTube. Download stuff. Look at porn. Whatever...just put a good heavy load on your connection. Try to make it fairly continuous.

If you run into the same problem I have, then after some time, regardless of the amount of traffic passed, the connection will stop responding. Sometimes restarting Tether works. Sometimes though, it seems that all data is frozen...can't use the phone's browser, can't use any apps that rely on data...nothing gets through except possibly pings.

I would like to see who else runs into this issue, on what ROMs, and whether there is anything we can do to fix it.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Nissan350:
Hey guys! Just picked up my 900 today and I must admit, I'm loving it so far. Now, I know most of us have the scrolling lag (compared to the DVP or HD7) but does anyone have the vibration rattle? Anytime my phone vibrates, it rattles for the first part of the vibrate duration then stops. When vibration resumes, the rattle is there again but only for a brief moment. It's as if it rattles only when the motor first takes off. Not a really huge deal but it does get somewhat annoying at times... I've tried to take out he micro SIM tray because I thought this was the cause, but it isn't.
[Nokia Lumia 900] braddles:
Mine does that too. From reviews I have read it is normal for the Lumia 900.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Nissan350:
Interesting... I wonder why they thought it would be a good idea to do that?
[Nokia Lumia 900] wspaw:
It's normal

I think it's the camera button. Mine is loose and I can shake the phone close to me ear and hear it rattle. I took it into the AT&T store and all of them (display and employee phones) do it.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Nissan350:
Definitely not the camera button for me. I downloaded a vibration app that allows you to access the vibration at the touch of a button and secured all buttons by putting my hand over them... it still rattled. My best guess would be a faulty motor or something very close to the motors location inside the phone. I will justify it by calling it a feature. Lol.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kh0annguyen:
It's the camera

I'm pretty sure it's the camera lens rattling. It's not a feature, more of a design oversight. It's very annoying. But that's how all Lumia 900s are so I suppose you could say it's "normal" behavior.

Edit: BTW I forgot to mention that I exchanged my phone once thinking I just got a faulty phone but the replacement does the same.
[Nokia Lumia 900] hx4700 Killer:
Ditto. I wondered if someone would be posting about it.

The phone is two awesome for me to worry about it though ;)
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
Dude, you just made me look stupid. Read your post and I started shaking my phone. My Boss walks in and asks....you ok?? Geessshhh......just what I needed, got caught on xda shaking my phone. :o
[Nokia Lumia 900] chivamex10:
my phone sounds like a chainsaw when it vibrates.
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
Does it sound like this? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1446018

i have to turn the vibration completely off on my amaze >:( its rather annoying
[Nokia Lumia 900] ragingclue:
Same here, but I can hear something rattling back and forth if I shake it. I have to hold the phone close to my ear while shaking to really hear it though.

As long as it doesn't mean something will break, I'm fine with it.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kalep:
Yes, I can confirm that my new Lumia 900 does exactly the same horrible rattling :( For what is worth, I think is much less noticeable if you use the Gel Case which I got for free from my AT&T store:

www[dot]wireless[dot]att[dot]com/cell-phone-service/accessory-details/?q_sku=sku5870251#

(Copy and Paste the Link and modify it because forum won't allow me to make it URL)

Regards
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
I'm going to check the hallway for my boss before I shake this phone again...
[Nokia Lumia 900] kenikh:
I sent myself an email to get a vibration, while holding all buttons stationary. The buzz, although lessened, is still evident. So it's something else.

I really do prefer the vibration from my Focus over the Lumia.
[Nokia Lumia 900] go0gle:
Nokia are pretty good at fixing hardware issues.. someone should bug them on their NokiaUSA fb page and also their twitter account. If they get enough complaints, hopefully they will do something about it.

Also, start a thread here:

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Nokia-with-Windows-Phone/bd-p/Nokia_with_Windows_Phone
[Nokia Lumia 900] Nissan350:
Exactly how i felt. Until i got like 5 texts in a row lmao. Guess ill just have to get use to it cause theres no way im returning this phone!

LMFAO! The funniest mental image just popped up in my head haha!

The video is private. It wont let me access it :/

I have the Black GEL TPU case sold at At&t that covers the entire phone like a glove. Vibration is still evident.

For all those that are trying to simulate vibration, go into the market and download "Vibemassage + Sound"

Once you start it up, pivot over to options and disable the "enable sound" slider then hit the main switch. If your phone is like mine, you'll notice that it rattles only when the vibrations starts.

Also, if you turn the phone around and hold it up to your ear and tap to the left of the camera, you will hear the rattle.
[Nokia Lumia 900] vect0r:
The vibrate is pretty annoying. Tempted to just turn it off completely.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Nissan350:
Tried that. I kept missing notifications :/
[Nokia Lumia 900] mluddyjr:
Mine rattles when vibrating too. It's fairly loud and sounds cheap. It seems out of place on a device that otherwise feels solid and premium.

I grabbed an app (vibeMassage + Sound) to test the vibration and experimented with holding each of the buttons and removing the sim card. The rattle isn't coming from anything on the outside of the device, so something internally must be loose.
[Nokia Lumia 900] FiyaFleye:
It honestly sounds like its coming from the headphone jack, when i squeeze that area it gets less noticeable
[Nokia Lumia 900] FiyaFleye:
I just confirmed that my girlfriend's Lumia DOES NOT have the rattle...

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[Nokia Lumia 900] 937dytboi:
Noticed the same thing but still loving the device
[Nokia Lumia 900] FiyaFleye:
Me too, but I'll be exchanging mine tomorrow. Do any of you guys with the problem have the cyan version? I have the black & she has the cyan.

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[Nokia Lumia 900] hx4700 Killer:
Both mine and my wifes are cyan, mine was pre-orders hers came from in -store on monday. Both have the noise but mine is more noticeable.
[Nokia Lumia 900] FiyaFleye:
I will test every phone in store before I walk out lol

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[Nokia Lumia 900] vect0r:
I got my Lumia replaced with a new one, my vibrate is 100% more quiet - especially when on the desk.
[Nokia Lumia 900] asuprice:
I kept thinking that there was a fault with the vibration motor. Now I think I just hear the auto focus lens vibrating. I still want the option to disable the haptic feedback on the capacitive buttons.
[Nokia Lumia 900] FiyaFleye:
I exchanged my Lumia & the new one is still broken. I'm waiting for the new batch to arrive in the store.

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[Nokia Lumia 900] Seed 2.0:
I went through 3 "New Batch" aka "Green Sticker" phones yesterday and they all have this shi^^y vibrate rattle. It sounds like the angle of the hole its off and as it spins it is hitting something. I spent about 30 minutes in a chat with Nokia support today. He told me he was forwarding the info to R&D and that escalated support was going to call in in the next 24-48 hours to discuss the issues. I also reported the camera button not waking the phone and the volume buttons not work under lock screen with out headphones. The first phone I had just vibrated, it didn't make this loud sound. It had a speaker issue or I wouldn't have returned it.
[Nokia Lumia 900] FiyaFleye:
Yeah, I'm on my third Lumia man. I e-mailed Nokia support directly, I'm just nervous it could fall apart after my 30 days and I'll be stuck with a refurbed phone. They fixed the camera wake issue (though I never had it) with the new update, along with a list of other things - I'm assuming all related to the memory management bug.

I asked Nokia to advise me on how to get a final replacement phone.
[Nokia Lumia 900] ragingclue:
Camera wake still affects me. I force sleep from this app and camera won't wake it.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Miah84:
I have the new firmware force sleep from XDA app still doesn't work.
[Nokia Lumia 900] bcolton:
Lumia 900 Rattle

I've got the same issue. It certainly sounds like the camera is slamming against the glass.
[Nokia Lumia 900] LordGreylock:
I've got the vibrate issue as well and it's pretty bad depending on the angle of the phone. It's really the only problem I have with this phone.

Like others have stated, I am pretty sure it's the camera doing the rattling.

I spoke with Nokia and they said to bring it to AT&T and get another one from the new batch, so went to my local AT&T store and talked to them about it and they said they would be happy to swap it for another however they don't have any Lumia 900's in stock and the next shipment is due in next week.

I will definitely be going back to see if these other units have the issue.
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
So I stopped in my local AT&T store to look at some cases. Its on the way home from work, so its not out of the way. I walked in and the guy who sold me the phone walked over and asked how it was going...He asked to check out my phone, he wanted to see something. He turned it off and then back on. He said you got the virbrate rattle. Let me swap it out for you. I was surprised, because, being hard of hearing, I never heard the rattle before. So, he swapped out the phone. When I got home I tried....yup...rattle still there..and now I have a purple screen too.

But, he offered and I didn't ask....at least that was intended to be helpful.....:o
[Nokia Lumia 900] ragingclue:
Haha yeah way to focus on the silver lining! I only wish I was able to do the same.

I'm not sure the vibrate rattle will be "fixed" any time soon, it might be related to a hardware design issue or supplier issue, in which case we won't see something solid for a while, and you'll have to rely on getting "lucky" devices that magically don't have the rattle. I've gotten used to it at this point; the only thing I'm worried about is whether or not the rattle can cause further loosening or degradation of the parts involved in the rattle, or any parts that may be getting abused physically when the phone vibrates.

If I can be sure the rattle is purely a noise, and not hardware loosening or degrading, then I can live with it. However, I don't know what it would take for me to have confidence that it's true. I'm not sure a statement from M$ or Nokia would do it, as I've had the wool pulled over my eyes by manufacturers before (*cough* Crapple *cough* Samsuck *cough*).
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
Yeah...we'll spend the rest of our phone buying days pulling wool I think. Its a choice I made to play...so can't complain too much.

I found I only hear the clang clang vibrate on restart of device. Regular vibrate is ok. Don't know why that would be. I also got rid of the Purple-ish screen with a hard reset. I only saw it when brightness was on automatic. Switching auto off made it go away....to me, that doesn't a problem fix. So, I hard reset once again...and it no longer showed up on Auto.

Another thing I ran into...I've had 4 WP devices in the last 3 months...a 710, Focus S, and 2 900's. I ran out of device space in marketplace...couldn't reinstall apps. I had already took a device off to get the first 900 on board. Wasnt elegible until May 7th. Called MS and they said 24-48 hrs. Bummer.

Got to work this morning and Marketplace was live again...Cool...I only had to live the night with no apps.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Seed 2.0:
Had same issue, I always named my phone the same thing so it always seemed to auto update after 24 hrs'ish. However when I couldn't figure out how to get my Live page, Windows Phone page and Zune pages in sync (all so the same active phones)I used the chat feature on Zune and they fixed them all up for me in minutes.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Nissan350:
I tried 4 different 900's and they all have the rattle. First one I got off my girlfriends upgrade. Second one I got after exchanging that one for a "green dot" one (which didn't even have the software update pre-installed) third one I got after switching to At&t (Cyan version) and the fourth one was the sales reps.

They all had this rattle. Some worst than others. So I'm beginning to think all Lumia's in revision 1 have this issue. Or at least the vast majority of them.

Hopefully Nokia hears about the problem soon and offers us a new phone from revision 2.

I've complained to them on several of their twitter pages about the problem. Doubt they'll do anything but hey, it's worth a shot!
[Nokia Lumia 900] MPerz:
Vibrate...

Mine does this as well. I like to think of it as the trunk rattle when the bass hits.
[Nokia Lumia 900] erzhik:
Anyone know if white model has it?
[Nokia Lumia 900] tai4de2:
Yup, the white one has it.
[Nokia Lumia 900] arcspeak:
Rattle comes from hardware buttons and is harmless

I'm quite sure that the rattle on my Lumia 900 is coming from the metallic On-Off button and Camera button. There is a tiny bit of free play around these bits of metal, and merely tilting the phone back and forth can reproduce the rattle. Conversely, gently putting a finger on them eliminates the rattle when the phone vibrates.

I'm equally confident that this rattle is harmless. On other phones that can be easily disassembled, the analogous buttons are not part of the switch but are free floating parts that merely transmit the pressure from your finger to the actual microswitch inside.
[Nokia Lumia 900] FiyaFleye:
Its not the buttons on mine. My buttons are stiff, they're also secured by my case, and for good measure I held them down. My rattle comes from somewhere at the top of the phone.

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[Nokia Lumia 900] hwalker84:
My white definitely doesn't. I traded in my Cyan which had it. The button rattle is also gone.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kenikh:
I hoped that trading in my cyan for white would resolve this, among many other issues. The rattle is the only problem that wasn't resolved. Matter of fact, my white Lumia is waaay worse on the rattle than the old cyan phone.

I'm considering opening up my phone, using the instructions from CNET, to see what I can learn. If it is something loose, a dab of super glue should fix it. If it is interference in tolerance between a non-critical component and the vibration wheel, a little Dremel or X-acto action may fix it.

We'll see.
[Nokia Lumia 900] hx4700 Killer:
So interestingly......

I have always noted the Vibrate module sounded a bit "flimsy" or perhaps cheap. Because of that I always assumed I had one of the vibration modules that eveyrone is complaining about.

Last night I played a game on the phone that I hadnt in a while. "Max and the Magic Marker"

When you touch the screen to "Draw" with the magic marker in an illegal area it turns on the vibrate motor. What it seems to do though is toggle on and off VERY quickly while holding in one of those spots. The vibrate module sounded like it was flinging itself apart. It was far and away the worse thing I have heard coming out of my phone.

I decided to bite the bullet and go to the store and see about an exchange. I tried two demos and 3 of the employees phones and they all sounded exactly like mine with the diag test. I had also tried my wifes 900 and it sounded like mine in diag vibra test mode as well. They didnt have the game so I couldnt test that.

In the end I decided not to because I wanted to reconfigure a new phone so soon after buying this one about as much as I wanted to put a hole in my head and it seemed that there would be no difference.

So now I am wondering if mine is actually "normal" and there are worse sounding vibra modules because I find it hard to believe that mine is a "bad one" when others have taken their phones in and have found better units but I tried 6 that sound the same as mine.

As to what the problem is... My money is that part of the module is in contact with something that is transferring the vibration directly to the unibody thus causing teh resonance we are hearing.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kenikh:
Try this: shake your phone in hand close to your ear. Mine, I can hear a rattle. I am almost certain it is not the motor, but something else causing the buzz in these phones when they vibrate.
[Nokia Lumia 900] hx4700 Killer:
Yeah its there when I shake it. I have also observed additional "noise" when I tap the screen more than just lightly.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kenikh:
It's near the camera, that's for sure.
[Nokia Lumia 900] :
As mentioned in some other threads, the rattle comes from the auto-focus component of the camera. The best way to test it is to go to the camera app, and switch between picture and video. If you have auto-focus enabled (which by default you should), you can hear the auto-focus clearly go on and off when you switch between modes.

As for my phone, if I shaked it in my hand, I couldn't hear the rattling, but it's there when you start the vibration test with the diag tool. I ended up exchanging my phone due to this, and the "purple" tint others have said about the screen at the lowest brightness.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kenikh:
We have a winner! Interesting.
[Nokia Lumia 900] madgalaxy:
I have the rattle as well, very annoying. I wish I could turn off vibrate all together, but that is not an option.

I went into the ATT store and all the demos and the employee phone had the rattle, so I did not want to go through the exchange process.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kenikh:
Here's a long overdue follow up.

I finally cracked open my Lumia 900 after breaking the screen and needing to replace it. I had nothing to lose since AT&T wouldn't cover the phone's screen and insurance deductible was the same price as the part...anyhow...

The rattle is 100%, unequivocally, without a doubt and with 6sigma certainty coming from the vibrator mechanism soldered to the main board. This mechanism sits directly to the side of the camera mechanism.

With the phone 100% disassembled, I was able to manipulate the parts in my fingers and test each and every parts the culprit. It is the vibrator motor and it cannot be fixed without extreme measures, like desoldering it from the board for inspection.

The cause is as simple as a crappy part Nokia OEMed from someone else.

BTW...totally different mechanism from the 800. After having been inside both, its pretty clear to me the 800 is a MUCH higher overall quality device than the 900. If the 800 had LTE and FF cam, it would kill the 900.

Anyway...bottom line: if your phone rattles, it is not user serviceable. Take it back.

If anyone wants pics, lemme know and I'll post them.
[Nokia Lumia 900] tai4de2:
Got a white one in Asia this week with a manufacture data of 6/20/2012. It is perfect, not a hint of the rattling I experienced on an AT&T white one right when they came out.

So, whatever it was, it's been addressed in later manufacturing runs.
[Nokia Lumia 900] xxxrichievxxx:
Like someone said, It's the camera lens.

i had this same issue with my iPhone 4 when i had it about 5 months ago, I didn't like the noise. Tracked the noise down and when i tap on the camera area the iphone would make a noise. If you tap near the camera area of he Lumia 900 it will start making a rattling noise. thus = camera lens.
[Nokia Lumia 900] kenikh:
No. Wrong. Its the vibrator. I had my phone spread across a table with a pinpoint stethoscope. Camera and vibrator are right next to each other so it is an easy assumption to make but the lens is not the culprit.
[Nokia Lumia 900] bigwavesurfer4:
Playing Minesweeper is the worst with this phone! :-P
[Nokia Lumia 900] markd66:
My 900 has just gone back to Nokia for repair for the vibration rattle, and the clicking screen in the top right hand corner. When I reported the fault to them, their first response was for me to book a warranty repair. No "have you reset, have you done this or that" nonsense. As soon as I said it was rattling when the vibrate function was used they said "you'll have to send it to us for repair".

Of course, what the service people do when they get hold of it may well be a different matter, but at least the front line didn't try and pretend there wasn't a problem....