[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
Ill give you that its different, but learning something new is always a good thing, especially given the fact that once you have built up a good level of experience with the OS you'll find it can be very productive.

Interestingly you say it will alienate its "fanbase" well from my own research and fairly wide spread deployment across a range of users ive found the only ones to have serious issues with it are people that id bracket as "semi-pros". To explain, if ive taken a complete novice that had zero expectations they were able to jump in and pick it up in next to no time at all, the same for high level IT pros as well. But you are right, there are a core of people in the middle that for some reason are not able to pick it up and understand it. My guess, if I were to have done the same research back through the ages I would have similar results, in fact having been there through the ages I can tell you that is exactly the case

W3.11 > W95 (There was a huge outcry about the start menu being unproductive (turns it they were right))

98se/me > XP (The OS was an unstable dog of an OS to start with)

XP > Vista/7 (slow on old hardware)

In every case the issues were corrected after a service pack and the OS eventually became accepted as a great OS

you can hit start on the keyboard or left click bottom left corner of the screen, of course its going to load up in desktop, its a desktop program, if you make a metro App then you will have that choice but given that most people don't use notepad in full screen I don't see the point but each to their own I guess.

you seem to have missed the point of metro, think of it as a full screen start menu with added app feedback abilities. What your wanting is a Full screen OS with single use apps much like Android works, but your doing this on a desktop, a OS that must support legacy programs, to have everything come up in a single screen metro style app would break some programs and would slaughter productivity "on the desktop".

Search is broken down in to sections visible on the right side of the screen, believe it or not but to a notive its easier to understand what it is they are searching for rather than a single list of everything, this power user here got used to it quickly enough but yes initially it was a bit odd to start with, only because id grown accustom to how it used to work.

you can also right click bottom left corner to get a menu for all things power users need to find. every day joe blogs doesn't usually need the mouse settings which is why they are not built in to metro, I cant remember the last time I even fired up the mouse CP

And I could go on for hours about how you've missed the point, I love it when people throw the start menu argument in there because if you discredit everything else, that is the one single thing that has changed and improved the OS. when people moved from 3.11 to 95 we, the power users of the time, said it was slow and inefficient, turns out that we were correct, having endless lists pop up one after the other IS slow, Win 8 has taken the best bits of vista/7 and the best bits of 3.11 and combined them in to a system that if understood, and it will be trust me, will make things a lot better.

Only some users, as ive said before in another post, in my experience a complete novice likes it, a power user likes it, its the people in the middle that are having issues, also from a poll I ran is was widely accepted that most people who have used the OS for a long period of time DO like it, I think the ratio was 75% like 25% dislike and out of that almost all of the likes had used it for a long period of time and the dislikes had used it for less than 2 weeks and hadn't really asked the community for help in understanding it.

agreed, finally a substantiated issue

it wont fail because users of your opinion are a minority, most users will be OEM users buying from PC world and as ive said, Novices seem to pick this up very quickly.

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its believed that on OEM gear it will be enabled, its unclear if its going to be able to be turned off or not. This will probably be more relevant to tablets then to desktops

on the desktop, your BIOS is fine :)