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[HTC Sensation] russeini:
Well said......i used to b an htc fan nd i jumped to sammy lately due to the dilution.u referred to. Very similar phones within a very short period of time. What were they thnkng? They had no time i bet to innovate due to the demand for productn. Htc remind me of dubai.....grew too big in too little time! Now the dive comes.....but they forecasted that to say the truth. I mean expeert would have recommended that htc continue doing wat they 1st started to do......quality in low numbers....low cost meant high return! I guess their board got greedy at one time. I really doubt they can turn thngs arnd seeing how ruthless the market is. No place 4 mistakes.
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
Although I do agree with you in some case I also strongly disagree in others.

I'm a really big android fan and I really like sense I think it's the best OEM skin but I also like AOSP a lot , so that is just an opinion. I consider it one of the best skins its the most bloated one too. And your statement about iOS being slow, bloated and taking forever to update... Wtf iOS is definanatly not slow and its one of the smoothest ,and all of the supported iPhones and iOS devices get updates on the same day that it is released.
[HTC Sensation] sykozylot:
i've gone back and forth between stock android and sense, and i often prefer sense. i'd like to think i'm not small-minded.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Oh...well ,it's fun while it last. My next phone I wanted the best looking screen. If T-Mobile USA release the One X, I would have bought it in a heart beat. But it's not going to happened, so I'll wait for Samsung 1080P screen hehe.
[HTC Sensation] Nick L:
Sure they made some mistakes in 2011, but they've learned and we can already see the results in the One line which has come out to glowing reviews everywhere. As long as HTC can stand their ground and refuse carriers' requests for custom designs (which I believe is what was behind the scatter-shot approach they took last year) they will be fine. I still think HTC's build quality is the best in the Android world (I have had none of the problems people have mentioned with my Sensation aside from the dust, and my current phone has been dust-free for several months now), and nothing on the One series looks to change that.

And, I must say, having used Sense 3.x, 4, and AOSP, the latter isn't all that people make it out to be. In my daily use I can still find areas where Sense (especially 4) does things better - for example, in the lock screen, music player, browser, and home screens. I have not seen any speed advantage to AOSP over Sense that doesn't require a benchmark to show, and there is nothing I can do in stock ICS that I can't do in Sense. Also, I find the AOSP minimalist look becomes tiresome after a couple days, while Sense 4 does not, while looking just as nice. Caring about the aesthetics of the UI is not "small-minded" as long as one doesn't give up functionality - and Sense 4 does not.
[HTC Sensation] shahkam:
Every big company has their software ontop of android running its a normal thing while i agree that sense is bloated but i disagree where you say its slow ...

I was running stock and didnt feel lag at all + the custom sense widgets are good looking if you'd ask me ...

The main reason why its falling its because they make too much device in short time and they don't put enough effort into them id rather love to see them release very few devices a year but work really hard on them ...
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
This article was a reality check and EVERY HTC Executive should read it.
[HTC Sensation] andrewluecke:
Obviously you have only used HTC for a while now. I actually totally disagree.

I owned a Samsung Galaxy i9000 as my last phone. To give you an idea of how the top phone of the market performed at the time:

1) Everyone suffered terrible lag. This was never fixed. Sometimes the phone would just freeze up for a minute. Happened to me once when I wanted to take what would have been a great picture

2) The RAM was so limited because of the requirement for the CPU/GPU, that there wasn't enough to webbrowse for longer than 20mins without the phone crashing

3) The GPS on none of the units worked that well. Over time they added what appeared to be smoothing algorithms, but, at the end of the day, it was mostly unusable for driving, because the signal constantly dropped.

4) A huge amount of units had failing flash quite quickly. My phone (which wasn't an i9000M) had this problem.

5) No OTA updates, and the PC software to do updates was terrible. Seriously, this is something HTC perfected years ago.

6) TouchWiz was complete garbage. To give you an idea of how garbage it was, by default, the apps weren't even sorted alphabetically.

I suspect that a large number of these problem is caused because since Samsung manufactures their own components, it would look bad if they used their competitors components.

Also, you complain about Sense, but Sense is actually EXCELLENT. Only recently has the AOSP interface been half decent, and in comparison to other phones, it has been amazing.

HTC also regularly updates their phone software, of even their older phones. On the i9000, we got 2.1 and 2.2, and they were bloody difficult to install because Kies didn't work on many computers (no OTA supported either). And other manufacturers like Sony Ericson do an even worse job for software. iPhone's get all the updates, BUT, on the other hand, iOS can't play FLAC files, and you HAVE to go through their app store.

Sorry, but, I TOTALLY disagree. The popularity of phones appear to have more to do with advertising than anything else these days, and Samsung's boost is simply because of their collaboration with Google. But, in all honesty, the i9000 should have been recalled.
[HTC Sensation] webmaster:
That is incorrect. In fact, I was one of the first importers of HTC phones (to the US) over a decade ago when they were just getting into Windows Mobile. I have probably had, sold, or used every HTC model that was compatible with US GSM or CDMA bands since the year 2000. As such, I speak from YEARS of experience and I can honestly say I am disappointed. Clearly my disappointment is not something I alone feel, since a 70% drop in profits indicates something is SERIOUSLY wrong.

As I said in my OP, HTC can fix this problem fairly easily. All they need to do is FOCUS and produce a GOOD product that people actually want. I personally think the whole "one" line is garbage, and I eagerly look forward to its demise in 18 (or so) months when Google forces ALL manufacturers to use a STANDARD (ie stock) version of Android. Until then, we will have a fractured, unsupported, miserable selection of phones. Check out the following graph for a better understanding of what Sense and other "enhanced" overlays have done to Android.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/10/27/android.support.seen.lagging.iphone.by.wide.margin/

Those stats are a few months old, however the fragmentation has only gotten worse with ICS. Enjoy!
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
Stock markets are like roller coasters. Htc has been on a roll up as of late...so now it's down time! Next year it will be back up...nothing to worry about :)
[HTC Sensation] Sindroid:
Interesting chart at the end. But i actually agree. HTC needs to focus more of what they make. One high-end and one cheap model, and possibly one with keyboard like Desire Z would suffice.

But they release too many models and in fact i just knew long ago that it was a poor business model evolving, and there would be too many phones to keep updated in the end. Thats was one reason why i dropped out of Android/htc for a while coz i thought the phones that kept coming in loads of models was just "experimental" pieces to flex muscles with tougher and rougher specs, with little care about them. And thus the fear of losing updates could easily be a reality.

Hats off to Apple anyways that keeps their products healthy for some years before they are discontinued.

Sensationaly sent from my Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] cr1960:
Spot on - how many different handsets did they release last year? Way too many.

Different UIs like Sense actually help sell devices. While a lot of folk here might go for the native aosp look, it's very dull and uninteresting to the average user (compared to iPhone and even WM7). It's really only the different manufacturers UIs that differentiate product offerings, otherwise wouldn't they all look the same?
[HTC Sensation] shahkam:
I agree they would all look the same and a android phone wouldn't be so special anymore for example people would stop buying android phones if they were all running pure google rom... Because it would be all the same thing it would get quite boring..
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
I agree with your views about build quality.

HTC have cheapened out on the components. They are using cheap EMMC chips, which are prone to frying, thus bricking your phone, on their devices from 2011 (Desire S)

But I strongly disagree with everything else you say.

Liking Sense or not is subjective. But I can tell you that I bet at least 70% buy HTC devices for the Sense experience. It's HTC's way of differentiation from the rest if the Market. If every OEM released pure AOSP, they would all virtually be the same. Hardware would only be the key factor. HTC's hardware isn't as good as Samsung's (specs wise) but in 2010, it clearly proved that the Desire was better than the Galaxy S...

Why?

Because of the Sense UI experience.

2011, things changes. Yes the SGSII was the phone of the year, due to its mighty specs.

But Sense is not as bad as you describe it. If you detest Sense so much, why did you buy the phone? :D

Also, I want to layout out - I'm not an Apple Fanboy, but I strongly disagree with what you say. Seriously, iOS slow and bloated?

It's clean and fast. The only slow iOS devices I encountered was the iPhone 3G.

How is it bloated? Apple load up minimal applications on the device. To some extent I agree with you about Sense (by default they load up so much junk - still doesn't take away the fact Sense is a good UI though)

And iOS slow with updates? Are you kidding me? It's much faster than Android updates from OEMs. But that comes back to the point with HTC being crap at software updates. I agree with you there! They are so damn slow with the ICS update for other devices (even though I have no intentions of using the official update)

So yes, HTC have become worse. (But I think they are goog to get higher profits etc in Q2,3,4 due to their new One lineup)

But, I don't think its fair that you bash Sense UI. Or bashing iOS with incorrect/false facts.
[HTC Sensation] webmaster:
That is a ridiculous statement and totally wrong. ALL Apple phones are exactly the same yet they sell millions of them. If all android phones ran the same OS it would be BETTER for users and they would sell MORE devices. That way manufacturers could focus their development around actually adding value. For instance, some would use a higher quality material, others would include a really great camera, others would build a physical keyboard, etc. Right now the manufacturers/carriers are focused on horrible overlays (cough, SENSE, cough...) that they never update. The end users is suffering now, and the Android fragmentation diagram I linked to is proof of this.
[HTC Sensation] Big_Rich_1983:
Me, my fiancee and my best friend all have Sensations and none of us have ever had any build quality problems. My biggest problem was the terrible battery life at launch, but with an Anker battery, successive Gingerbread updates, then a custom ICS ROM from here, it's all good.

It strikes me that HTC have invested millions into phones no-one has asked for. Sensation XE and XL with royalities going to Dr. Dre? What were they smoking when they thought that up? Do they not realise that top-spec HTC phones are for geeks such as myself, and geeks don't listen to Dr. Dre.

Well, I don't anyway.

And as for the One series... iPhone wannabes, complete with no SD-card slot and a fixed battery. Not the right direction to be headed imho.
[HTC Sensation] NinetoFive:
I do agree with the large number of products being released hurt their image, but I'd have to think a large part of that was due to the huge popularity of the GS2 (and sebsequently the GNex) which leapfrogged Samsung ahead. And the iPhone is always the behemoth in the room. I like my phone, but I hated how they had 15 variations of it in the year. I can barely tell the difference between any of the Sensation models and the other HTC phones (thunderbolt, desire, desire HD, etc etc) all looked very similar and confused consumers.

I like where they are going, but my next phone will likely be a Nexus because I don't want the Sense overlay anymore--nothing against HTC though. If they made the next Nexus, I'd be stoked.
[HTC Sensation] k0zmic:
No SD Card is a shame. But I do think spec wise they are going in the right direction. People slated the Sensation for having slightly lower specs than the GS2 e.g. in terms of RAM and Internal Memory and they seem to be rectifying that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tokuzumi:
Sprint has been frustrating me for the last year, with dropped calls, no service, slow data speeds, when I had amazing speeds, and great coverage from May 2007 - Jan 2011. So, I switched to Big Red. I know it costs more, but I'm getting what I pay for.

The Epic 4G Touch is probably the best phone I've ever owned. And I've enjoyed the support it has received from the talented devs. I really hope Sprint gets its act together, and fixes their network, as I know I'm not the only one who has been complaining about Sprint service.

Maybe I'll be back one day. Keep fighting the good fight. I hope Sprint comes through for you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
I thanked you solely for the title of this thread. :)

Good luck over on VZW.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
Agree the title reminds me of something...... something about fish :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
Now I have the song from the movie stuck in my head hahaha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] niv3d:
OP. Were you at the end of your contract?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stkiswr:
I left verizon to go to sprint because my wife didn't want to leave. I struggled for almost 2 years w that crap. I left and went back to verizon recently and we are about to get 4g lte here. I couldn't be happier. Once she comes over I will be paying $20 more a month for vastly different service. Sprint would have been nice had they given what they offered. She has the gs2 also and while its a fantastic phone it is poorly represented on sprints terrible network in my area.

You won't be sad to be paying more. No more mad at the world because I can't receive an mms lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tokuzumi:
I did have to pay to get out of my contract (my phone was the only one with remaining time). I read the ETF fee schedule, and I calculated my ETF at $160. I was hoping to get out of my ETF by using the change in the way Sprint discounts the family plans. I missed the deadline by a few days. :mad: However, they said my ETF was $90. And, by buying the phones through Amazon, we saved $400. I'll just put my 4G Touch up for sale, as well as the wife's Evo 4G, and I will more than pay for the cost of the phones, as well as the ETF. I will probably be able to pay most of the first month's bill with that, too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tokuzumi:
Once that LTE comes to your area, you won't be able to wipe the grin off of your face. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] niv3d:
Well I got sprint to waive my ETFs but they said I have to return my phones! Wtf?!

What's the point then?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bondosho:
Hey, just when I thought we were running out of these "I'm leaving" threads, another pops up. #coolstorybro
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] _MetalHead_:
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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 5FOOTER:
I have Verizon for work and have a couple dropped calls a day. Never had one on my sprint. In the Washington dc area
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
SwampGoblin might buy your device.... ;)

Sent from my calculator watch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tokuzumi:
I take it there is a good back-story with this? I'm not up on my politics in this forum, so you will have to forgive me...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I have E4GT as private phone and iPhone 4S from VZM as a business phone.

I know those are different phones with different hardware/software but I counldn't help to notice that I always have better signal and reception with my E4GT.

In some areas where I don't have reception at all with my iPhone I'm still getting signal on my E4GT.

And I moved to sprint from AT&T 2.5 years ago because in my area AT&T had a worse service/signal ever.

So may be sprint is not a fastest network but so far it was the best for me for area where I leave and where I travel most.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stay Frosty:
How'd you get them to waive it? My data dips as low as 0.05 mbps on Long Island. It feels like 56k dialup. I don't know how Sprint can legally sell data plans on Long Island. It's soooo bad and it's only getting worse. The tower upgrades did NOTHING.

I really don't want to spend hours on the phone trying to convince 10 different reps to waive the ETF. I'm thinking of just paying the $350 ETF, selling the phone on ebay, and switch to AT&T or Verizon. At least their data works here.

What's the alternative? Keep spending $90/month for a data plan that I can't use? Absolutely ridiculous.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Seriously .....rant to sprint we can't do anything, hope you feel better bro
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I picked my nose. I should start a thread about it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Swamp Goblin is a dev who happens to be looking for an E4GT so he can start working on new ROM goodness for our phones. He's been looking on Craigslist and ebay but don't think he's had any real success yet. There's a thread that explains it all if you want to contact him.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1572184

Also I think sextape (again not an inside joke) might be looking for one, but don't quote me on that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I would go to At&t before Verizon. You know At&t is a union company. If my family didn't work for Sprint that is where i would go. At least you know their employees get treated better.

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lafester:
yeah 'cause unions totally look out for their members and help create a healthy work environment.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Never heard of that before. Sounds like yet another way to squeeze more money out of us. Lame
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
Why do people feel the need to make threads like this? Just be gone. No one cares.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Yeah, and we all know how well AT&T treats their customers, lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] azyouthinkeyeiz:
I have had Sprint for 10+ years. I have never had a dropped call. But, I'm also smart enough to check the coverage map, and know when there is no coverage.

All these "wah, wah I don't get coverage" threads could have been avoided had most did the same.

What's the point in buying a service that you know was lacking in your area?

Not talking about you OP, you said it was just recently that this started, just ranting about others.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
My parents :D

But I don't make threads about it :o
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
Makes perfect sense. Sprint charges the ETF to their cost of the hardware that they sold to you at well below cost. I think it's silly, but they are perfectly within their rights to take back a phone you haven't finished paying for.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
Lol so true.. op, thanks for giving recognition for the roms.. but to be honest, i dont think too many people care your leaving lol.. everyone here shouod have sprint service and are aware of the network.. but i was expecting to read something related to our phones in the e4gt forum.. not about someones experience with sprint and story about why there leaving.. at least you posted it in the right section lol.. good luck with your new carrier.. and your new device whatever you choose.. and again, im sure the devs appreciate you loving the roms
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Make sense to me too and I can't really blame them, I just never heard of them doing that before.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] azyouthinkeyeiz:
o.rly?

Maybe not for long. They don't care about the union. What a horrible rationality for THAT brand loyalty.

Reference

http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/10/att-f...ion/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I hadn't either until I tried to get out of my contract on a line that I used to get my E4GT without the EFT. I had moved the phone over to my main line (the one I'd wasted the upgrade on E3D) and put an old flip phone on the secondary line to avoid the $10 data fee. So when I called about the new pricing change and wanted out of my contract (but didn't want to leave Sprint) they totally called my bluff and said, "sure but we'll need the new phone back". Since I didn't want to give up the phone I asked "well, what can you do for me considering I've been a loyal customer for 10+ years?" and they worked out something that I could live with.

So yeah, lengthy way of saying, they do now ask you to return the equipment and like DataHawg said, I can't blame them either.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] smoothone:
I have rarely any issues with Sprints service in South Florida. I cannot remember ever having a dropped call. Sprints service must really vary from region to region.
[Galaxy S II General] AdamLange:
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[Galaxy S II General] Brotuck:
Same info as posted here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1585084
[Galaxy S II General] AdamLange:
Not quite the same, i got direct links, torrent, more info about release.
[Galaxy S II General] crachel:
Please post your information in the other thread, that way we don't have multiple threads for the same topic.

Thanks

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Johnny0906:
Sorry I'm almost never in here and I have some images i wanna input to my text not attachment.

Have some interesting result on my C3 I wanna properly report.

Help will be appreciated!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] omac_ranger:
Just upload it to a website (imgur.com or imageshack or something) then take the direct URL for the image and press the "Image" button on the XDA website, then paste the URL in there and it will put it directly into the thread. Just don't make it really huge then upload it :P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Johnny0906:
thanks alot!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maverick_G:
I want to know whether someone is working on 3.x.x kernel for Xperia Play. Sony Ericsson will use the GB's 2.6.32 kernel in ICS. So, any answers (if yes then link) will be appreciated?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
To make a kernel, you need source code, if sony don't make the kernel .... There is no source code to release.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryocoon:
I think most are going with Sony's released source, plus modifications. I don't think anything has moved up to 3.x kernel series yet. I know there have been some improvements, but the stability of 2.6.x has been pretty good for a long while. It is possible that CM9/FXP based ROMs may move to a 3.x kernel, but I haven't payed that close attention.

Any dev's or somebody who has payed close attention to the kernel setups want to comment?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maverick_G:
I heard Sony has released a kernel building guide? Then we'll be stuck with 2.6.32 it seems.