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[HTC Amaze 4G] madmaxx82:
Hi,

that's a new feature in cwmr6.

And a very nice one indeed :)

Incremental backups also was a long due feature request and I will add a feature like that with next gen 4ext.

However please be aware that it's not 20mb per backup as mentioned on many sites.

To give any numbers is nonsense, because it solely depends on what you are doing with your device.

It could be 20mb, but it might only be 5mb or even several 100mbs.

All depends on how much mb of your data have been changed/added since your last backup.

If you store additional 100mb and then make an incremental backup, of course your new backup would be at least 100mb + any other added data.

The new data need to go somewhere afterall ;)

They just don't get copied x times for x backups, but only once.. which is why this is also a little more dangerous:

You shouldn't do just incremental backups only. In order to restore such a backup, all previous backups they built upon must be "healthy" in order to be able to do a proper, full restore. Otherwise a complete restore won't be possible.

Ever had an md5sum mismatch? Especially when your backups are stored on the flaky fat32 file system and on external sdcards, there is a realistic chance that data corruption can happen which then can render your backups useless.

Since data are only stored on the sdcard once, the risk is higher.

So incremental and also differential backups are very nice, but they also have a drawback: data safety is reduced.

I'm still thinking about what would be a good implementation for 4ext recovery.

Differential or incremental backups and how to do it.

I think cwmr6 does cumulative backups since dedupe is mentioned, but I've yet to check.

I'm posting all this because I'd like to know:

Would it be important to you to be able to restore to a previous state inside an incremental backup series?

Or would it be enough to only be able to restore the very last one in a series only?

Say, you start out with your 1st backup on Monday and then add incremental backups on Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.

Would it be important to you to not just be able to restore to the last (Sundays) state, but alternatively to the Fridays, Wednesdays or Mondays?

The drawback of being able to restore to previous states in such series of backups is that a bit more space is needed for a backup series and more work in developing that :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
Me personally, I think being able to restore to the last in a series of backups would be best, but let me say it like this.. if it were like windows system restore, and you are trying to find the last date that you didn't have issues, that may be best. But I suppose the initial backup state would be preserved, no?

The way I can see myself using it, I do the original backup when everything is stable, before flashing something new. If what I am trying to flash doesn't work, I revert.. and I may try again in a few days, which means I do a whole new backup rather than backup all the texts, calls, and other ways I have modified the data. If the changes you're looking into would have be covered, I will definitely buy the app(again!)!
[HTC Amaze 4G] madmaxx82:
Thanks!

Well the changes that are going to happen are far, far bigger than simply adding a new type of backup or even the jump from 4ext recovery classic to touch.

Now I have put between 300-400 hours into the new generation and there will be at least 150 additional ones necessarry.

I'll try if I can add that to the initial release, although I'm already way overdue :/
[HTC Amaze 4G] andy55:
I agree, I think you'd only need your last backup to restore from, when I do a backup I know for the most part everything is working how it should, so I'd have everything I'd need to make the phone functional again. Besides, when I load a rom, first thing I do is set it to how I want it, load all my apps/restore from titanium, load contacts, etc. and from then on, anything that happens I don't care much for. Things like texts I don't keep, rarely, and I mean maybe 1 in 200 I refer back to, so that doesen't matter for me.

Besides, when I have a couple backups, I tend to either delete older ones, or throw them on my laptop as a just in case backup, and its easy, one file, you have all your settings. If you have a different rom, throw in on your card and you can swap whenever easily. I think for people that have a few roms set up and switch every now and then, the one file is as simple as you can get. File size isn't a concern for me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
I do the same, throw old backups on my laptop.. but I still usually have several backups, several gigs worth. The article was interesting to me since there are these devices coming out without expandable storage - if/when I get a nexus 7, with the limited space it has, I will want a better backup solution, and backups like he is talking about would be the solution, and a welcome one on any device.

It would be much easier and QUICKER to backup whatever has changed since my last backup, and since I'm always flashing stuff(and almost always wanting things the way I had them in case things go wrong), this would be a HUGE improvement for me.

I am curious now what other changes he has going on.. max, do you have a list somewhere of what's to come?
[HTC Amaze 4G] aaronpoweruser:
I would prefer to restore only the last or no more than one back
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Any idea where the source code is for this? I can't seem to find a link or git repo for this (or for any recoveries, clockwork, etc.). I'd have to assume this is all open source code, but google hasn't been friendly on this one.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Migwickert:
I used this recovery to backup and restore. When I tried recently, my backup wasn't found? I had to restore a previous backup from months ago. Any ideas? Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
this likely has nothing to do with the recovery, it won't delete backups.. look into whatever else you do with your phone, namely any file explorer apps. Again, doubt it has to do with recovery.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Migwickert:
Okay, es file explorer and root explorer are installed on my device. So there could be potential issues with either of these two? Interesting. Thx.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
When u delete things you're not supposed to... yes.

You're the only one reporting this issue... probably user error
[HTC Amaze 4G] Double0EK:
There are also 2 locations that your backup could be saved at. On Internal sdcard and ext_sd (external sdcard) you should check them both to see if they are in any of those 2 locations.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Migwickert:
Thanks for the input. I didn't delete anything. Anyhow. I'll give it another spin. We'll see what happens.
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Perhaps my question got lost in the shuffle, but where is the source code for this?
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Ask madmaxx. Glacierguy asked to get his account disabled.

Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S3 Via Someone's Room ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Why?

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
He asked to have his account disabled
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Yup. He just told me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Opentang:
Hey Maxx, miss your 4EXT recovery! Hope to see you in the One S forums soon ;)

Regards,

Opentang

Sent from my HTC Ville
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
I was wondering where you went off to.. damn it, we keep losing good people, and not to better phones, but simply phones with better development :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] Opentang:
Love my Amaze, but absolutely burned out on Sense ROMs. Donated the device to the wife :)

Sent from my HTC Ville
[HTC Amaze 4G] FirePheonex:
do you need root and s-off to restore from a backup on this app ?
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
You at least need to be rooted.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] theinitial21:
does this work on the g2x??

EDIT: nope :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] neelgangrade:
confused !

shud i flash CWM recovery to my S-ON device unlocked from htc dev and den after installing custom , i shud download 4ext recovery and den flash it ?

or shud i just directly flash it from "cmd" to my device !

please help ... m plugged in ! whats the correct process ! i dont wanna brick ma device ! i have both recoveries !

clockworkmod recovery and 4ext recovery ! help ! which one to flash ... becasue i need to flash ARHD 3.0.1 for my incredible s ! and 4ext recovery is needed ! :crying:
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
If you're rooted you can just flash 4ext.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Opentang:
Hey Maxx, any headway on the One series recovery development? It's been a while since we've heard from you. CWM and TWRP just aren't the same :-/

Kind Regards,

-Opentang
[HTC Amaze 4G] DigitalUnderground:
He is COMPLETELY redesigning and redevelopimg EVERYTHING. It is gonna take a while. It looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL

Sent from my Wicked Galaxy S3
[HTC Amaze 4G] DigitalUnderground:
Bump for the noobs :D

Happy Holidays
[HTC Amaze 4G] kazzxtrismus:
This guy and 4ext iyself are great!..

I emailed him via the play store and his reponse was probably the most professional and personally positive experience for a developer EVER.

I am willing to wait whatever it takes as it WILL BE AWESOME.

e-Sex.. All of the carpral none of the tunnel
[HTC Amaze 4G] DigitalUnderground:
Best dev I've ever experienced. I did weeks worth of testing for him when he was getting this to work on the amaze and like u said, the most positive professional person that u will find on xda.
[HTC Amaze 4G] masondoctorjt:
root yes, but you don't have to be s-off.
[HTC Amaze 4G] DigitalUnderground:
Bump for the noobs... And an APB to madmaxx82 :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] iKilla:
For thoses using this make you stay updated.. download and install updater from 4ext.com
[HTC Amaze 4G] DigitalUnderground:
Tbh... It was stable back in June of last year... An update is NOT mandatory... Just saying ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Also, if you are new and using this, and you are "S-ON"... MAKE SURE YOU HAVE "SMART-FLASH" ENABLED IN THE SETTINGS!! if not then we will end up with about the 500th thread titled "amaze 4g stuck at boot logo, please help!!!" Or "flashed x.x.x Rom and now phone just stays at HTC screen" because of course you won't search first :D

sent from my

NRGized amaze

powered by Faux
[HTC Amaze 4G] Opentang:
I miss this recovery! Can't wait to see One S support!

Regards,

Opentang
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Can anyone upload the latest 4EXT img so I can add it in to my toolkit?
[HTC Amaze 4G] zPacKRat:
I'm reinstalling from scratch after trying Viper, my 4EXT backup did not work and this is not the first time either. That said I will be able to upload the latest version in an hour or three.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
That's fine. I have the new update prepared. Just waiting on the new update. It's been about 5 months since it had an update and looking to do my best for those who still own the Amaze!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Moon83:
Here's my link to the recovery.img. The newest stable

https://www.box.com/s/mp4v31quljfvdlmy945z

Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G...Go Canes []_[]
[HTC Amaze 4G] readmanr:
Hi Amaze users,

Just to bump the thread, as a new version of 4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.6 RC1 is now available as of 31/12/2013 and all finally packaged up early morning 01/01/2014 so thanks for this at New Years!

To get your hands on the recovery.img, download 4EXT_Recovery_Touch_v1.0.0.6_RC1.zip using the 4EXT Apps.

The Free 4EXT Recovery Updater v2.4.6b App.

Or the Paid 4EXT Recovery Control App.

Version v1.0.0.6 RC1 is required for the Android 4.4 KitKat ROMs and GAPPs.

Here is the changelog for 4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.6 RC1.

- Based on the rock solid v1.0.0.5 RC9

- Added support for SELinux needed by some Android 4.4 roms.

Big thanks to the following testers:

Papete, Dtr204, CChako, and Kingmook!

Hope the above helps!

Happy Testing,

Rob.
[HTC Amaze 4G] chiujiewei:
does 4ext recovery allow me to flash any rom with S OFF? i have an unlocked bootloader

any help much appreciated :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
Yes :) this version is highly outdated I tho but stable , the latest is 1.0.0.6 RC1 :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] chiujiewei:
what about having unlocked bootloader with S ON?

is it possible to flash roms like kitkat?

or is it compulsory to have s off
[HTC Amaze 4G] rdar_93:
S-Off is recommended lol

I think you could flash it with S-On but you'd have to know how to work with the 4ext smartflash
[MENTION=5463522]Odysseus1962[/MENTION]
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
Depends, if you have the ICS firmware pre flashed then yes, if not then you need to upgrade to ICS firmware 1st, if you have a unbranded amaze then you need s off to upgrade, if you have tmobile or any other brand which gives you ics upgrade then upgrade. and flash any rom using smart-flash on if you're S-On
[HTC Amaze 4G] NooBOnTheBlock:
If anyone uses this they will need Flash Image GUI Or Fastboot Flash Kernel Files...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Odysseus1962:
First, you need the latest version 4ext if flashing KitKat. There was some incompatibility the update resolves.

S-on or off doesn't matter on AOSP ROMs as long as you're already on ICS radio baseband.

If s-on, flashing a T-Mobile based ROM on a device from another carrier is often problematic.
[HTC Amaze 4G] madmaxx82:
After taking as many screenshots as you like, you need to copy them to your sdcard.

This is done via the tools menu.

In tools there is a menu item called copy screenshots to sdcard.

Before you do that, any screens you take are stored in ram.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
In recovery, in tools, there is an option to save screenshots to SD... Click that and try again
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Ya, the package you made is faux's 008, the newest is 009, do you think you slap together a kernel package for that one kind sir? Please and thank you!

Sent from the Morgue!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Correct... The faux is outdated... I never downloaded 009 since I preferred stock kernel... You may wanna che k out Faux kernel thread
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
That would explain why they're seemingly non-existent; they are. That's easy enough, but I wish that I'd realized that last night though.

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[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Sorry dude... Forgot to mention :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] madmaxx82:
Just download this and use the file Glacierguy uploaded as a template:

http://db.tt/nxzl0EjP this is zip file 1

Then download the latest official kernel zip provided.

Like the one from faux:

http://faux.androidro.ms/Amaze-EKF-009b-sense.zip this is zip file 2

Now open both zip files.

In zip file 1 replace boot.img by boot.img located in zip file 2 in folder "Kernel-Here"

Then replace folder "system" of zip file 1 with folder "system" from zip file 2 located in folder "Modules".

Finished ;)

I hope Faux doesn't mind.

The product is attached to this post ;)

I hope the upload is ok.. have a very bad connection right now sitting in a train.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
You should be! ;-P

But, seriously though, a simple note added to the toast would be a good idea. Something as simple as "to RAM" to the saved message even; informing the user where it's been saved (i.e. RAM) and can then use the tool to move to the SD.

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[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Added to OP... Green text :D

I would update OP with .009 kernel package but I can't find where the heck it saved to my phone...
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
:thumbup:

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[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
So is the one u attached the latest faux and flashable through recovery? Just asking cuz i was gonna package it and upload one but if u already did i dont need to

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

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[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Don't have anything to flash on my Amaze, so I'm testing it out on my MT4G. Looks pretty sweet so far! CWM seems so primitive now. Just set it and forget it basically. Added a 5-star review on the market!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
It is the latest package... I was gonna put in OP but I can't fond where it saved to my phone... :confused:

It's not in sdcard/downloads
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Thinking about adding support for the Xoom soon? My Xoom seems incomplete without this recovery now. :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
Tapatalk, by default, saves to "Tapatalk_downloads" in the root of your internal SD.

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[HTC Amaze 4G] madmaxx82:
I will add something like that. But keep in mind that you don't want that message to be too long..

Maybe it would be nice to have recovery check if there are any screens left which haven't been copied to sdcard yet when you reboot.

Yes, I think I will do this that way ;)

Yes it is, though I'm not at home and my internet connection sucks.

So I'm not sure whether the uploaded file isn't corrupted.

Please try it out..

Thank you very much :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I'm hoping to talk him into building a honeycomb version for the Thrive too... Just trying to give him a break in between requests :D

Thanks... Found it and updated OP :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] madmaxx82:
Not so soon unfortunately.

Adding new devices most often is a lot of work, at least when they are very different to the ones already supported.

I can only work on a few tasks at one time: improving recovery, debugging any bugreports I might get, work on Recovery Control, provide support, or work on supporting new devices.

Currently there are a lot of requests.. for new features for recovery and the app and a lot of new devices to support.

Now there are pending requests for about 10 new devices some of which I received already months ago..

The process of adding new ones is a slow one depending on how much different they are.

This doesn't mean I won't do that, but at the moment I simply can't take any more requests.

Also when some devices are very easily supported, then I will do them first or in between, because it doesn't make sense otherwise.

This doesn't mean I won't add the xoom. But supporting tablets will need some rework to the UI + Motorola is something completely new to 4ext.

4ext is very hardware dependant.. much more than cwmr, because of some of its unique features..

Sorry to disappoint atm. I hope I can do it in the future.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
No disappointment here. 2/3 devices is pretty good! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrgwap:
Damn i told it i had s on lol. Is that ok?
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
U do have s=on... Right? That's what you are supposed to do... Lying gets people in trouble :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
No, lol. U can change it through the settings in the app.

Edit: Open the app. Click on recovery. Then recovery settings. Then i will see S-on smart flash. Check that box

Edit 2: lol, sorry i thought u said u told it u had s-off.

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

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[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
You know, I feel kind of dumb, I should have been able to figure that out, and I think once I even noticed there were no updater scripts in the file.. which now that you mention it, it explains why the flashable kernal tool didn't work either.

In no way take what I said at criticism, you've done some ace work that is appreciated, especially in times when not many people seem to be putting work into our devices :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Alan Corona:
Very good installed and also installed ics theme from crack
[HTC Amaze 4G] dubt17:
What theme?

Can I have a link?
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Open the app... 4th option down is themes... It will take u to xda site with themes... Remember our screen is 960x540
[HTC Amaze 4G] dubt17:
Ahhh! I knew this, thought he was talking about a sense or rom theme ;) But man, this recovery's themes are amazing!
[HTC Amaze 4G] HuskyHamburger:
Amazing! but the off-charging doesn't work for me. The orange LED light will be on for ten seconds, and then will be off for another ten seconds and repeats. Does anyone know why it charges on and off?
[HTC Amaze 4G] knifeproz:
I'm having trouble installing kernels? I downloaded Faux's 009 kernel and it says "unpacking..." and then aborted within 2 seconds. Anyone else?
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
This is my 3rd time posting this... You can't flash the boot.img without the modules packaged with it. Get it from the OP...

Faux Kernel Package 009

Then flash it like its a Rom from recovery
[HTC Amaze 4G] knifeproz:
really sorry, I usually read for answers, but everythings been slipping my mind today :| I apologize.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
It's a holiday :D

Happy Easter!
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
I wanna try this but it seems complicated >.<
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
No man... Not at all... U know that the amaze community makes things difficult. Download the app, open the app, hit online install, ignore prompt message (click don't show again), hit online install again, click amaze, click testing build 28, click install and you're done... Not hard at all...:D

I mean... If u installed CWM, this is easier simply cuz an app does it all for you :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
Then I could flash kernels and roms ?I'm pretty sure I read something a few posts back saying u just flash the Rom and it'll automatically flash the.boot.img inside the zip?
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Bingo! :D

I know we've all been conditioned to believe this is all no longer possible... And it may take a while to soak in, but its real! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
If the ROM has the kernel within it, such as the one linked in my signature, the kernel would be flashed along with the ROM without the need for a PC.

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[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
Yeah I couldn't really believe it...almost unreal lol

So just wipe , etc etc, the. Flash Rom and it'll flash the boot.img that's provided with the Rom.....and good to go ?.....that can't be possible lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Best test... Flash recovery as instructed. Flash one if the kernel packages (different kernel than the one your running now of course) from the OP JUST LIKE IT'S A ROM. let it reboot. Then flash a ROM that comes with a different kernel. :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
Will do that when the new fourth bar sense is out :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
sooo stoked this finally got an official release, I was feeling bad that you guys had to wait for it... glad I was able to contribute a little to the testing process, also threw a donation in Madmaxx's direction, he totally deserves it... I will probably start donating pretty regularly to him, his work is some of the finest available for android phones... the devices he supports will definitely influence the devices I purchase!:D

edit: I would also strongly urge anyone that can to do the same (donate)...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Turboboxer:
Fuch yea!

Bought it! Love this recovery. Got Sensations in the family all running this. Now me too.
[HTC Amaze 4G] knifeproz:
Sorry this is late; but yes Happy Easter to you, and everyone on the forum ^^
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Happy Easter to you too, and all as well.

Sent from the Morgue!
[HTC Amaze 4G] F033x:
Worth every penny, so much better than cwm
[HTC Amaze 4G] garveygibbs:
Great Recovery

Bought the app and I love it..one thing to report tho..If you try to format the sd card (it doesn't ask if you want to format internal or external) just sd card...It stays there forever...partition sd card works tho
[HTC Amaze 4G] madmaxx82:
Thank you all very much for your support!

Ohh.. thanks for reporting.

This will be corrected in build #29 for 1.0.0.5 RC1

BTW: Please (also) use the contact button inside the app.. I might not be able to monitor all the threads any time ;)

And happy Easter :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Sorry I missed this... I just tried this. Turned off my phone. Plugged it in. Led came on for about 10 sec and turns off for about 4 sec and repeats consistently. My battery % was increased when I turned back on.

Also, I've let my battery completely die 3 times. I've yet to have any "real" issues getting it to boot back up after letting it charge while off
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
That's good. I was worried about letting my phone completely discharge if off-charging wasn't working. I let it die once on the glitchy CWM, and it took me forever to get it to boot up.