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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
A fellowtownwoman of yours is a very staunch supporter of the team... And an ex-girlfriend of mine. She used to play Football Manager often as well, so every time I think of that, I remember our story.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jr866gooner:
Having a change of heart now. Im going to be either southhampton or reading- both teams performing fantastically in the championship.

Firstly reading I've been to their stadium to watch them against Cambridge utd in what is now league one (11 years ago)

Second southhampton have only just been promoted and look likely as over achievers! Both good tho nonetheless.

Lets see! We should have a FM progress/stories thread, what do ppl think?

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Mysticales:
Cool. Tho I think change the title of the thread to Football Manager =p I was thinking FM radio ;)

Ill check this out when it launches.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Sorry bout that, i forgot not everyone will think of footy manager doh, edit on the way, not long now, soooo cant wait lol
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Red_Kop:
£6.99 - SI really are in love with themselves, aren't they?

Their pathetic stance on the issue of piracy for example (amongst others), means I dislike them to the core.

Their forum is an absolute joke too, run by mini Hitlers that love to brown nose their SI gods.

Can't stand them.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
i am actually happy to pay, as for their stance, do you blame them? i def agree on the last part tho, very true, although u dont need to use the si forum, there is fmhvibe aswell, tho im not a member.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
Care to enlighten us?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Who me? If so what part?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jr866gooner:
Do we think it will be a midnight release?

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
I checked si games forum at 7pm uk time, looking at uk noon release, maybe evening. I'll be checking when i get up
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
About the SI forums, there seems to be some bad will against them, not only here, ice read it from other FM fans...

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Yeah i agree, i was a member of a few others aswell, i gave up on fm on the pc because i got addicted to android and they where trying to do too much with the game, the fmh version is simple and easy, just how i like it :-P
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
I used to play a Spanish football manager,a long time ago, called PC Futbol.

When I hold of Football Manager in the computer, I was totally overwhelmed. The panel looked more like a flight simulator than a game: there were so many variables to take into account, so many things to script, tweak and control... It's just too hard and unintuitive.

Then I played Handheld in the PSP and, while complex and a bit buggy, the game seemed manageable again.

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ch3mn3y:
For me fm for pc was (and is) easy

If u know what is where u can understand whole settings and other things.

However they cant give too much cause phone screen is too small

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
I feel that the pc game is trying to be too real like life, u need to hav loads of time to do everything, dont get me wrong, i have always been addicted to champ man and footy man, just hoping it can carry on alongside android now, instead of the pc, as i now dont own one, @ ch above you should find it even easier because handheld vers is similar to cm01 ;-)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Red_Kop:
I've bought every CM/FM since CM2 (except 2009 in protest over the DRM), and I think it is better than it has ever been.

For a football fanatic, it is simply the best. The level of detail cannot be rivaled. I spend literally weeks and weeks on this game every year.

If you don't like that kind of detail, then there are plenty of less serious management games to play...or you could even stick to old versions of FM/CM and download updated databases.

But the current version, I wouldn't change for the world. It is awesome!!!

ps. they said FM Handheld for Android would be out around midday GMT.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ch3mn3y:
Ive never played cm01 cause i started playing manager owning fifa manager 2008 than i changed it to fm09 so i know how cm looks only from screenshots :(

however im waiting for android version

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Well done Red Kop, thanks for the usual reply i expected, thank you

Funny enough i have my friend, best one i find is fm10 even though it was flawed with mr houghs tac lol, thats my fav, oh and also cm0304 lol that was flawed aswell, good ole diablo tac
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
More importantly, its been delivered to google an hour ago so we're waiting for it to show on the market
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Ok latest is poss 18:30 uk time
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Its here:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sigames.fmhi
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] TheMaverick:
As expected, it has a black border around my Galaxy Nexus, I hope they sort this out soon, but otherwise I'm very excited they have recognised Android and brought this over!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Mysticales:
is the game worth it tho? Compared to playing on PC.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
@ the maverick, from what i can gather is, they,ve made a few formats to get it released, then from feedback, support more resolutions, iv been playing on my tablet, soit has a massive border, but my happiness that it has been released for android, outweighs any bugs lol

Its nowhere as near detailed as the pc but its been scaled to run on a phone/tablet, oh and now that i think about when i played it on my play(lol) it seemed to be more detailed than on my tablet

All in all, i think if your a hardcore cm/fm gamer, youll love it

If your a footy fan and want a bit of fun, youll love it

Not everyone will love it

But i do....
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jr866gooner:
Is it safe to purchase via phone or should i complete over pc? Im at work and not nearby my pc!

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
I done with phone via wifi if that helps
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
Is there a huge download creeping behind the 26 megabytes?

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] poo-tang:
Only about 40mb
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jr866gooner:
Save games (at the start anyway) are 10mb

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
The game doesn't keep the rosters properly. That means that you save the game playing with one team with players A, B, C... And then you load the game again and your players are X, Y, Z, in different positions and stuff. That means that the game is basically unplayable right now.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Red_Kop:
Really? That sucks.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
More problems:

the UI is very unintuitive (I still haven't been able to sell a player!), and it seems that Sports Interactive didn't speak with other Sega divisions because somehow the memo that Android has a Back key was ignored. The back key exits the game, though it's kept in memory if you go to Recent apps: essentially, the back and the home key do the same in the game. There are lots of in-app back keys which are not consistent with Android and its flow.

In sum, this looks like a rushed iPad port, so don't shell out your cash right now because this is a very buggy release. Disappointing, given the good quality of Virtua.Tennis.

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] hairdewx:
Game won't even start up on my Verizon Play (2.3.3)

Says I have 0 MB free... which I obviously have much more than that...
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Sorry to hear that logesman, iv been mostly playing it on my tablet, its already been reported the button problems, the ui is very similar to the old cm days, i actually think its very good, but then im different from you, i agree that its iphone conversion, hopefully they can sort thr probs out, the bloke that coded it all seems nice, maybe my loyality to cm fm is blinding my judgement ;-)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
I've been playing it in a tablet too. However, the roster bug is deal breaking.

The UI ís probably acceptable in the iPhone, but an Android user expects to be able to use the back button. If you can pull strings for that, it'd be nice :-P

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Its on his todo list along with getting a proper skin for tablets, gal nexus and samsung note blokes are bugging him, they dont like the border, few others have said that its too easy with a 442, and from mine own experience and reading fmhvibe forum, andy carrol is a beast, i actually support lfc so even i find it funny, tho cant complain with 9 league goals in 14 games!!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jr866gooner:
My phone rebooted earlier mid game-well i had saved it then hit exit- the end game option was there alongside New game etc on start screen but the phone rebooted before or as i confirmed i wanted to close. When i launched FM again the menu displayed continue game instead of load. That option did nothing. I rebooted the phone again to find my save game was no longer there! It was gone! I've had to start over,not too painful as i was only two friendlies in signing two players. Has this happened to anyone else yet? :confused:

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Red_Kop:
Logseman - I've been playing it for a good while now, and the bug you talk about regarding team selection is not present for me. It works 100%. Do you know you can save your selection too? But even so, it does automatically keep the team for me without saving.

Agree with comments about back button though. Why replicate the home key? Back button is for navigation on and Android device.

Overall, it's a good game. Nothing like it's PC counterpart. In fact, all I feel like I'm doing is pressing 'continue'. It's good, but as I mentioned earlier...£6.99 is way to much for it and only serves to inflate the egos of SI.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
@ Red Kop its funny i gave up playing fm cause i didnt hav enough time, things hav changed so iv got all the time in the world, i cant really get into this one cause i miss all the features of fm12 tho its better than nothing
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
I had the bug with Atlético Mahonés in the Second Division B of Spain. Funnily enough I haven't had it again. Truth be said, I wiped the caché and the data of the game. I'll try to replicate it, and if I can't, I'll give it a go. The UI stuff needs to be improved, though.

How can I 1) sell players and 2) promote players from the second team?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ch3mn3y:
1) to sell player u need to choose one than press action and there u have "offer to clubs" and "transfer status". Than wait...

2) i think we cant promote reserve/second team's players

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jr866gooner:
This is ideal for a quick fix out and about-can't beat the proper version tho! Really wish we could handle reserves and promote them.it just serves as a dumping ground for pants 1st teamers!

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] jr866gooner:
Anyone else find that the commentary covers scorers on match overview screen?

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
I havnt really played on the xplay as yet, tho thats about to change as my tab is broke, :'(
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] tommoose:
Is there any way to give team talks on this? I need to give my team a half time roastin!!!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ch3mn3y:
I think that there is no option to talk with media/team - i dont see any. Cause its "beta/alpha" version with a lot of bugs and lacks

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
Lol, I would have to do it every single match.

The game is sorely lacking and in need of updates. Right now it doesn't justify its high price tag, by far.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] doncoop:
The way I look at this game is it is championship manager circa 93/94 with add ons. Never will it replace the pc version but allows you to have a decent football manager game that's very 'pick up and play'able. I agree price is a bit high.

Although no team talks you can talk to players. There is an action button which you can then click player interaction and either chat in public or private.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] KeiranFTW:
Don't believe this if you don't want to:

I started my 1st season with barca, now my team is:

Goalkeeper: D. De Gea, V. Valdes

Back: P. Evra, P. Jones, G. Pique, C. Puyol, A. Fontas

Midfield: R. van der Vaart, Xavi, A. Inestia, S. Nasri, C. Fabregas, A. Oxelade-Chamberlain

Up front: L. Messi, W. Rooney, S. Agüero, D. Villa, L. Saha, R. van Persie, Kerrison, Rodri

I've done three seasons, finished first every time. The hardest part of the game is choosing who to play for me :P
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
Playing with Barcelona is just too easy. The fun of the game lies in picking some bunch of losers like Lleida/Dag&Red/Maritimo and lead then somewhere better off.

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Red_Kop:
About to finish my 1st season with Liverpool.

Might win the league, might not.

But agree, game is easy.

It's easy to buy players as well. Unrealistic targets.

But worse, I'm not even sure if what I'm doing is having an affect on the game. It just doesn't feel like it is. Like in the full version, you can tweak everything and feel like you are making a difference...this is just kind of well, random. I change tactics, I still win, I change player...still win, change training...still win.

I don't know, it's fine like...I really don't know what I expected. Guess I expected something a little more in depth. Which, is silly of me, I know.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] doncoop:
So agree! I'm fc Halifax in this version. Every time pc FM I pick a non league team and get them to the premier league. So much satisfaction in that.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
I agree mostly with Red Kop. You don't get any feeling that what you do counts for anything, and you get no valuable feedback either. You can't see if you're having trouble in the back or if you need a winger. All the options you have at your disposal are fairly hard to access and they seem to have zero influence in the game.

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Marc Vaughan:
It was a deliberate decision at the time as a lot of other games were using the back button to back out of the application (as you mention it'll be kept in memory).

I've just finished changing this so it emulates the 'back' button in-game because a few people have requested it - this will be present in the first update to the game, probably in a few weeks time.

I'm posting progress details of the first update - ie. whats in it and what plans are afoot on the sigames.com forums if anyone is interested.

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I've had a couple of reports of this - it'll be tracked down and fixed asap, I think its probably to do with custom formations and them not being saved if you don't save them yourself and then 'hard exit' the application.

If you save the tactic down yourself in game before exit they should be retained in the meantime.

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With analysing the matches - I'd suggest using the stats in tandem with the 2d, there is a lot of information available to work out why things are going right (or wrong) ... but the 2d clips are far faster than on the PC, this is intentional to keep the game nipping along at a quick speed.

Quick aside - FMH is NOT intended to be a clone of FM PC/Mac at all and is designed to be a totally different beast, a bit faster and less 'intense' to play than the PC game - more akin to our earlier games ..... it doesn't have the huge depth that the PC game has, but unlike the PC game it is playable and fun if you have say just 15 minutes time available while commuting to work or whatever.

Obviously as a person who helped design/create the game I'm kinda biased on this - but I thought I'd mention it anyway :D

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If you have any problems with installing the game (or really anything tbh) then please feel free to email me at marc.vaughan@sigames.com and chances are I'll be able to get things up and running for you.

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Just to let you know - we're working on an additional skin for the larger screened devices for release during the update cycle, please bear with us - we'll make it available as soon as possible.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] hairdewx:
Thanks for the reply!

I did try to register for your forums at http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/257-Android-Bugs-Forum , but the verification email didn't get sent until a few days later, after I figured out my problem.

What was happening was that I had about 270MB free on my SD card. When I freed up more space, to over 300MB free I think, then it installed just fine.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Marc Vaughan:
Its later than I'd have liked tbh, but bear in mind this version is something I had to implement a prototype for in my own time in order to prove its 'viability' ... as such its release isn't on a perfect timeline for this year (sorry about that but I've a wife and kids also clamoring for my free time, what little there is of it ;) ).

The plan is to sync things up so we'll release future versions at roughly the same time of our other FMH products (ie. earlier in the season) - this does of course presume that this version is successful enough that its decided to continue releasing on Android, if not well apart from anything else I'll feel a right wally for investing huge amounts of my own time into it ;)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] will8578:
Welcome to xda and the play forums Marc :-)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] tommoose:
Its true to life in one respect, newcastle go from top 8 to bottom of the table in no time. I'd love to see the in match team talks if its somethin that could be implemented. I enjoy playing this on the phone, its the only way I get to play because I cant get the full game to run on a netbook

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Marc Vaughan:
I've actually played a little with Newcastle during testing - I found that they've a really decent side WHEN their players are all fit, however lose one or more of the key squad members and it gets a lot more challenging ...

I also personally think that it was harder once Barton left the side, but thats probably partially down to the physical (some might say thuggish ;) ) tactics I generally employ :)

PS - Teamtalks might go in one day, but its not something I'm going to rush into at all, ie. not during an update.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] tommoose:
they have a good team but they have a habit of doing my head in. they'll take the lead against man utd for example, they might even go 2 up but then they'll get slaughtered 5-2 or in another match, 5-1 at home to bloody norwich of all teams. bloody farm yakkin, tractor toting pieces of s*** :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] KeiranFTW:
You played as Newcastle? I'm a Sunderland fan! Make love not war! Or was it peace...
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CTU_Loscombe:
Wait a minute...I'm FROM Sunderland

Ah your a Washy guy...I'm from Hetton :) small world haha
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] tommoose:
Dodgy mackems the pair of ya!

UP THA TOON!!! :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] KeiranFTW:
Ermm.... no kernel updates for you :D

kidding of course :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] tommoose:
awww but keiraaaaaaaan

** stands in the corner kicking heels and looking sorrowful lol

toon toon
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] KeiranFTW:
Right, I know how to win. I'm adapting my kernel:

Sets your boot screen to sunderland badge

Screams oh oh oh oh oh o'neil on boot and on notification

Is called SunderlandKernel

Has geolocation, if you are at the SDA it sets your CPU Max to 61MHz

:D:D

Of course, I'm joking :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Mysticales:
Question and a longshot.. I grew up with the EARLY "Bundesliga Manager 93" (In USA It was called "The Manager" http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/656/Manager,+The.html) I loved this game. Now it seems thats what Football manager grew into, I just never got around to trying it.. orig one was complex alone. Just wondering, if you did play this version.. how does it stack up to this android one? Is it still the same thing or is it really more complex now? Thanks.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Logseman:
Given the recent words of SI's representatives, in which they decried Android for the piracy existent in it, this project could be axed in any minute. And then they'll name sure I never buy anything with Sports Interactive in it. Sorry, Marc, but if SI uses piracy as an excuse to discontinue FMHA instead of adding value to justify the price tag of the game, they'll lose a customer for good.

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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Marc Vaughan:
Will the game spawn a series of releases on Android; I've no idea tbh - it'll depend purely on the sales on the platform against the costs of creating it I'd expect and thats not something I get into as a humble developer (there are people who wear suits and worry abut that sort of thing ;) ), I'm not a shouter or a screamer myself - I try and create the best games I can and release them on as many platforms as possible ... simple as that.

I've done my best to immerse myself in whatever platform I develop upon, I always find that is vital in order to understand the best way to implement a game upon it.

With Android I use it every day (my Phones a Galaxy S2) and I'm quite proud of the game we've released upon it, early next month the first of several updates to the game will be available - this will further improve the product and add new HD skins allowing some devices currently running the game in a 'window' to appreciate it full-screen.

With regards to piracy, tbh I don't really want to discuss it - in the same way that my sports-sims will never discuss playings taking steroids, yes it happens ... does it help things, not at all - but I personally would prefer to focus on the positives and get on with life rather than worry about the negatives.

As such I'd like to thank everyone who's purchased the game and given me feedback on how to improve it - its very much appreciated :D

PS - In case anyones interested in the forthcoming update, heres the current 'in progress' information about it:

#3.4a - First Android Update

Added Battery level warning indicator (triggers when battery falls below 10% charge)

Tuning of player movement from free-transfer

Fixed rare pass count wrap display issue if someone did over 128 passes in a match

Allow users to over-ride inefficient disk space warning

Battery life optimizations

Improve alignment of text on dialog box (HD Skin)

Add warning if app is run on a device with inadequate resolution

Welsh Manager Performance Award Fix

Port Vale Point deduction

Fix rare issue in European comps if a minor club wins major competition

Fix for Vans Trophy issue if a conference club qualifies for Europe

Minor text fixes (grammar and translations)

Improve the manner in which players react to bankruptcy

Added apostrophe to keyboard

Fix crash if you slide out physical keyboard while scout search is happening

Improve accuracy of required storage space calculation

Fix very rare corruption of player history in long term saves

Allow users to ignore space error and force an installation

(New Skin details are not noted as its not fully completed at present and things only make the 'list' once they're complete)