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[General Topics] adslee:
You just don't seem to understand that the prototype is the foundation of what makes it to the market and thus the final release of the product is essentially layers and layers of revisions over the prototype (especially Android's case because as I stated before, they did not rewrite the OS to include touch UI from the beginning). It's a simple concept that you seem to be unable to grasp. Perhaps it's a little out of reach for you right now - understandable since it's a concept that may be difficult to comprehend if you have had minimal experience with programming.

I love how you're so insistent that your device (the same as my device really) is smoother and better than iOS in every single way - that's so absurd that I actually think I'm being trolled right now.

You are a waste of my time. Sorry, but that's the only way I can put it since apparently your word is on the matter is more credible than an intern at Google and an actual Google employee (see Google Plus link above, Dianne Hackborn). I'm sure other users can see my thought process, logic and explanation in my posts above, especially with the sources I provided.

+1, this is the end point I'm trying to make. A little sidetracked but yeah, this is it.
[General Topics] marleyfan61:
That's a fair enough statement. However, from a user standpoint Android was always touchscreen, since the only "users" of a non touchscreen Android were the original developers. So it is a reasonable statement from a user that android was always touchscreen, while perhaps not reasonable from a developmental standpoint.
[General Topics] Infekxion:
IPhones run smooth because they are built with touch response as a priority. Android has a slight lag because it is actually multi tasking, something iOS doesn't do very well, that's why so many of them freeze up completely. As for my opinion, small screen, jailbreaking still doesn't compare to what you can do with a non rooted Android, only has Twitter integration, that on screen back button that's always in a different spot. The best thing about iPhone is the cases.
[General Topics] aj_2423:
I think the point hes trying to make, is that when android was first structured, it was not touch screen, and the touch was implemented later on. And instead of going back and building the touch into the structure, it was more added on top of it, if that makes sense to u, which is the cause of the delay. The arguement isnt whether the first android was touch or not, its whay adding the touchscreen caused.. correct me if im wrong?

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[General Topics] kazzxtrismus:
You've basically proven my point when I said ignorance is bliss... Like the old lady with a Bently.... Not knowing what she's got.

It is the very definition... If you don't care what you have or its capabilities because you don't know why,how or any better OR care to...

That is virtually the exact definition of ignorance.... Why be insulted for people who are not here nor care to be..

I'm offended by your being offended by the truth
[General Topics] masondoctorjt:
Correct, ios diverts all processing power to scrolling when you flick your finger, and that's why is so smooth. Since android truly multitasks, it is keeping the important stuff you are doing running in the background, all while scrolling your live widgets in full working order. While it may not flick screen to screen at 60fps, what android is doing is much more impressive! And my sensation is very smooth most of the time.
[General Topics] yo2boy:
Can you provide a source for this information? I've never heard of iOS diverting every processing power to scrolling.
[General Topics] stratax:
if i wanted a completely smooth os i would pick WP7 over ios anyday, everyday. if i want to root, mod the crap out of my phone i will go with android. if i wanted to be like every other fanboy i would get ios. simple as that xD
[General Topics] EclipzeRemix:
Cons

IOS limited customizing/themeing/internet expierience

Windows 7- Limited Apps, and Theming

Android - ........umm slight lag while moving your finger app **** while playing a game........and some lag if not running a good rom, or phone just isnt good
[General Topics] stratax:
Android has much more cons than that lol, security, fragmentation is a big one, lag, too much useless apps/crap, etc. wp7 is gaining apps with 80k+ i dont see who needs over 100k apps anyways xD i guess wp7 is more towards people who actually use their phone as a phone and for some entertainment. android is for power hogs who want a nuclear powerplant as a phone lol

i like android and wp7 equally i think, my biggest gripe about wp7 is the resolution cap >:(
[General Topics] dementor123:
+1. It's funny how some people start calling others dumb just because they have different opinions, likes/dislikes and priorities in life.
[General Topics] JesseMT4G:
I think it is crap with the one guy stating if you have an Android phone that you should root it and if you don't, you should stick to the simplicity of an iPhone as it is a better experience.....

Blasphemy!

I have a rooted mytouch4G and Kindle and a stock Amaze as honestly got tired of flashing ROMs and what not. I have better things to do with my time. I will say yes, for the most part you get better battery life and or a little bit more smooth experience, but my Amaze does fine on stock. I get between 12-18 hours on a single charge, which is plenty for me and really most people.

I get very little lag, so it don't bother me.

I have owned a jailbroken iPhone, but IMO Android runs circles around any version iPhone, especially the multitasking abilities.....

I will stick with my stock Amaze until I got bored again and root it and be on my merry way.

People are crazy on these forums.....or any forum really, lol!
[General Topics] dementor123:
This is absurd. Have you looked at CPU usage charts from iOS and android?
[General Topics] EclipzeRemix:
i see it if you dont have your android rooted you only own a portion of your device, and you are not using it at its best
[General Topics] hd2joel:
Stock amaze don't think I'll be confrontedany time soon no good roms for this phone anyway. That's what my HD2 was for its collecting dust now. Now I can spend time doing what I really like to do and just use my phone as is $600 for a phone it better be usable out of the box & I'm happy with this phone when I'm not I guess the s&w will get a little more rest :)
[General Topics] masondoctorjt:
Here's what you asked for.

"That has been answered by Andrew Munn – software engineering student, ex-intern at Google and future intern with Windows Phone 7 team at Microsoft – who states that UI rendering processes in iOS occur with dedicated threads with real-time priority whereas on Android, UI rendering processes occur along with the main thread with normal priority. Whenever an iOS devices detects touch, it stops other processes and focuses all attention to rendering the UI. Android devices don’t do this, instead general processing and UI rendering occurs concurrently which results in choppy UI."

This info was taken from here

www.redmondpie.com/heres-why-androids-ui-will-never-be-as-smooth-as-ios-or-windows-phone-7/
[General Topics] Ash78663:
No to iphone

I used a Iphone 3G and hated its weight was quite heavy and the UI Booring...

and they cost a fortune to :eek::eek:buy
[General Topics] turntable:
i don't mind the boring UI as long as it's consistent. i love android but in the past it always taks a bit of little "tweaks" here and there to make it have a completely consistent end user experience. i love them both. been using an iPhone for more than a year and still knew i'd forever be switching back and forth between platforms (now using ICS on a CDMA GNexus)

one thing i will say, however, is that ICS seemingly runs like a f**kin clock. it's way smoother than i remember android to be before i picked up my iphone (had a rooted fascinate running a custom rom)
[General Topics] yislam:
After owning a galaxy note, anything under 5" I'd too small. But the main reason is I HATE ITUNES!
[General Topics] 10_dollar_movies:
iPhone user

I'll have to say even though I'm not a big techie fan myself, I do notice that the battery life of iPhones aren't even as good compared to even the older versions of Nokia phones that I used to have. I've noticed on some occassions as well with the iPhones when receiving incoming calls and sliding the bar to accept calls, sometimes the touch function does not even seem to work.

I've only noticed this a couple of times though since I've had the iPhone for roughly 6 months or so. Slightly annoying especially when you need to take an important call but for some reason the touch screen doesn't register your touch.

Not sure if others have experienced this 'bug' as well?
[General Topics] turntable:
i would attribute that to the screen geeing gunked up by face oil or something. never had that problem myself (i cleaned mine ALL THE TIME as i do with any touch screen; hate smudging)
[General Topics] hungry81:
He is wrong This article explains it. According to it android has had multiple development versions and touchscreen devices have always been supported from the very first SDK

http://www.osnews.com/story/25264/Di...re_the_iPhone_

It has photos and videos showing other prototypes.

Here is another pic showing 2 android prototypes:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2007/11/android-prototype-for-the-curious/

Also "It just works" is an incorrect advetising slogan designed for gullible morons to repeat and not a legitimate argument. Anyone who uses it as an advantage for apple does not deserve to have their opinion heard until they can realise why it was moronic to use it.

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2007/11/android-prototype-for-the-curious/
[General Topics] jpelko1:
I have much reasons why i transfer from iphone to android,i can count them for hours..

Like bluetooth sharing,user replacable battery,micro sd,better ui...
[General Topics] kensim781:
iPhone are for everyday geeks who wants no mess, no fuss, simplified and extremely easy to use UI til even a chimpanze can use. lol...

But on the other hand Android are for Tech Geeks and Developers all alike for it's out of this world customizability, flexibility, User Control and limitless possibilities.

Just like what can you do with a mac? vs What can you do with a Linux or Win 7? I've been a Windows user for 15 years and I can say I won't even think of migrating to a Mac... EVER!! Not to mention, I've no problem with the selections of PC games for Windows 7 as compare to games for Mac.

In short, iPhone is a Toy, Android is a TOOL...

PS: So wanna get my hands on the new Nokia Lumia 900 *drooling*
[General Topics] bamx2:
I avoid all of the potential traps the come with proprietary devices period and want to be able to change the battery dammitt.
[General Topics] kensim781:
Damnit !! Lumia 900 doesn't have user changable batterys !! :mad:
[General Topics] andromile:
I think that iphone design is very boring and asexual.
[General Topics] rezzen25:
and all the capabilities of iphone can be ported to android so why buy $$$$ that phone
[General Topics] Bozosniper:
- iphones are expensive

- the system is not fully writable

- the Appstore sucks

- no custom roms

- low performance

- manufactured by chinese childeren under bad circumstances

- no AMOLED touchscreen

- no micro usb connection

- iOS is really gay
[General Topics] visavon:
don't be a sheep and go with the flock just because lots of people do it don't mean its right
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 8cpaiw:
hey i readed some post's and found out that 10W51 and 11W08 hard bricked with tutorial: s1tool if semc go to semc 7227.....

and i want to know is it better to unlock bootloader with flashtool or Se tweaker tool or with standart tutorial s1tool if semc go to semc 7227.....

and 1 more question:i have 11W46 hard bricked and they changed my motherboard with 11W19 and is it safe to unlock bootloader because that guy with 10W51 hard bricked also had replaced mothersboard......

and a question for B.Jay:in one post you said: 10W51 hard bricked,impossible is it

typo?

what is typo???:confused:
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B.Jay:
No, that one is not a typo but actually true and was the 1% chance of the one doing the unlock stuff screwing up therefore causing a hard brick.

And ... a "typo" is a spelling mistake ... i.e. typing 10W51 though 11W51 was actually meant.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] semdxd:
I prefer flashtool

I know two or three managed to unlock including me

But Were 34 or 38
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 8cpaiw:
So that guy didnt have 10W51 he have 11W51?

I am going to try 1. Flashtool then se tweaker tha standard method but for 1-2 month
[Kindle Fire General] Thremix:
OK, so 6.3 is out.... is the silk browser still slow and choppy?? That's all :)
[Kindle Fire General] shravbits:
Yes. But the reader view is nice
[Kindle Fire General] Thremix:
ok thank you...

If I could get an HTC flyer for $200, think I should go with that? I really just want the e-Book and web growing aspect... something simple, however for the same price... any one have any experience with the HTC flyer??
[Kindle Fire General] shravbits:
I like my Kindle because its just perfect for me. I'm rooted with Play Store and its BOSS. Kindle is perfect for reading as the stock reader feels like using my old kindle 3 (which I still love). Web, eh. The stock browser kind of sucks. But Dolphin HD is a replacement. I don't have a HTC Flyer so I cant tell if its good or not. Hope this helps!

P.S If this helps hit the thanks button :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ssconceptz:
CURRENT VERSION: 1.0 (4.0.3 UHLPE SHOstock2 v1.1 Compatible)

ICS-4-ICS Theme v1.0 is compatible with the DeOdexed 4.0.3 UHLPE SHOstock2 v1.1 only. It should work with older SHOstock 4.0.3 builds.

This theme is a joint effort from myself (ssconceptz) and Overstew and a port from the 2.3.6 Theme that has been so popular for our devices.

DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any damage done to your device in flashing this.

Download Links

ICS-4-ICS Theme v1.0

http://tinyw.in/3krC

Mirror

...if needed...

Instructions

1. Download the flashable zip via download link.

2. Place onto SD card (or internal storage)

3. Using Recovery of your choice, flash zip from storage.

4. Reboot and enjoy.

NO WIPE NECESSARY

Screenshots

SCREENSHOTS

Version 1.0

- Initial Release

- 4.0.3 UHLPE SHOstock2 v1.1 Based

- AOSP Calculator

- Apex Launcher

- AOSP ICS Keyboard

- AOSP Calendar

- AOSP Camera

- AOSP Gallery

- AOSP Browser

- AOSP Camera

- AOSP Desk Clock (Alarm Clock)

- AOSP Movie Studio

- DSP Manager (ICS)

- TW Camera ICS Theme'd

- Email ICS Icon

- Removed AM/PM from Clock

- Removed SecBrowser (TW)

- Clock ICS Blue

- Carrier ICS Blue

- Google Chrome Beta is in Removed Apps folder

- Phase Beam Live Wallpaper

- Live Wallpapers (Black Hole, Bubbles, Holo Spiral, Phase Beam)

Notes

I do not own this device so user feedback is very important. Please let me know any issues you find that are theme related.

Known Issues (v1.0)

- AM/PM still showing

- Signal Bar Alignment

Thanks

Overstew - For the initial Theme for the E4GT and helping me learn how to do all this cool stuff!

shoman94 - For the ROM SHOstock2 v1.1!

Gibby - For testing this theme on his AT&T Galaxy S II.

Vertumus - For allowing me to use some images from his ICS DOMINATION THEME found -here-

Thanks to AvatarOfFrost!

Thanks to all those who helped with the E4GT version.

​
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ssconceptz:
To-Do

N/A

How-To Switch to ICS Launcher(s)

Settings > Applications > All

Find TWLauncher & Clear Defaults > Press Home Button

Check desired Launcher!

Older Versions

N/A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ssconceptz:
Addons

N/A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Gibby:
Thanks for letting me test this for you...works great with ShoStock2 ROM! LOVE IT!! Also like the add-ons you included!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
Nice, glad to see some themes coming up on this side.

This also works with Phone-Bricker....(Ultimatum also probably). :p

It will switch your Framework-res & SystemUi to UHLPE though, so its a little Frankenstein if you use this theme.

Haven't noticed anything wonky as of yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] fzeta:
Gracias máquina;-)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bassheadz:
Hey just downloaded your theme I thinks its excellent :) one problem though the battery charging indicator is going haywire and my phone says 3% when I really have about 29% just figured ill let you know :)

Sent from my SGH-I777 running shostock2 v1.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shoman94:
Nice job fellas
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TiCaLuVeR:
Thank you!!! Downloading as we speak!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bassheadz:
I was forced to remove your theme here's why:

1.to fix the battery indicator I rebooted phone

2.phone reboots and all apps such as phone Calender etc. Start to FC

3.I mange to put the device into recovery and reflash shomans rom (unthemed)

4.on reboot I encountered a major bootloop( never left sgs2 screen)

5.manage to put back into recovery and wipe delvack cache

6.phone reboots no problem (I kept the theme off)

Hope my feedback helps you to improve this theme

Btw great theme I love it :) (just don't like the bugs lol)

Sent from my SGH-I777 running shostock2 v1.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
Happened to me too but I thought it was from a different base but your actually on Shoman's rom so odd it was doing that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bassheadz:
Have you read the new problem yet? Did that happen to you also?

Sent from my SGH-I777 running shostock2 v1.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dream5hift:
How do I remove the theme later?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Sledutah:
Flash the ROM you were on before, no need to wipe data first. I flashed back to shostock2.

One other problem that I haven't seen get mentioned is the messaging app that is included with the theme FC's at startup. I was also getting double messages.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ssconceptz:
The only issue would be the charging issue I was just told of. This is an image issue, nothing more. Any other issues you have are un related to the theme.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dream5hift:
I was getting two message icons too that's why I went back to stock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tekky610:
Love the theme but I too am getting double messaging notifications and one if them (ICS one) keeps FC when I try to open a thread
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TiCaLuVeR:
I have no issues. Theme works great!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shoman94:
My understanding is that aosp mms.apk will fc on every restart. I think there is a way to fix that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TiCaLuVeR:
I had the same issue too. All I did was disable notifications from the AOPK messaging apk and then disabled it. I have had no issues since.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nbunn:
Many many thanks. Still on GB Shostock just waiting on this. Thank you guys!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] inspectagadget:
I noticed the same thing when I used Trebuchet launcher. I switched back to the Apex launcher and the battery indicator read properly.

---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 PM ----------

That's weird...........I don't have any FC's or bootloops (I rebooted my phone).

Cal, Phone, contacts, msg's all work fine. I wonder why the opposite experience for us? We are both running the exact SHOstock v1.1..........

I love this theme!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bassheadz:
Could I have had a bad flash?

Sent from my SGH-I777 running shostock2 v1.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Pongt09:
Yea installs double apps

But I think you could manually remove the old ones

System tuner is what i use..

EDIT: I removed the old

Messaging apk

Gallery apk

Camera apk

Clock apk

All seems fine now with no issues.

Although you have to remove the apks from the quicklaunch tab and then add them back

or it'll give you an error saying "Can't launch this application"

Battery icon acts weird esp. throughout charging.

the theme is awesome with only minor issues
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dream5hift:
My battery just dropped to 9% but I'm actually at 91%.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dream5hift:
Now went back up to 89 lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] inspectagadget:
Well I stand partly corrected, everything works good except the double messages when getting a text.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sam1forever:
Nice! Any idea how to update the files for different ICS builds? Been thinking its like replacing the images inside an apk with the updated image but I believe theres more to edit than one apk.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] inspectagadget:
So I get this right, do I remove the

Messaging apk

Gallery apk

Camera apk

Clock apk,...........then install this theme?

I really want to use this but couldn't stand the double notifications in messaging. Thanks in advance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mrakifa:
So this won't work with the new 1.2 build?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shoman94:
This installs double apps? Hmmmmm..... I haven't personally tried it. If he's replacing apps the old ones should be deleted in the script.....I also not really a fan of replacing the Apk's I use in the rom. Can cause compatibility issues and complaints.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] karth500:
I agree. I would like an ics look for your ROM, but this looks like it messes with too many things. If it is repackaged with just the theme aspects without the changed apk's, I'd give it a try. Or at least a separate zip for the added stuff.

Sent from my SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TiCaLuVeR:
I have been using the theme until I updated to v1.3. There is double app issues especially with the messenger but I just removed theme added ones and kept yours. The theme is a nice addition to what you have already built. It does have its issues but what new theme or rom doesn't. I am a great fan of everything you guys do here on XDA and thank you every day for making my Android experience that much better!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] inspectagadget:
I did the same thing with the msg apk and now I don't get double notifications. I haven't noticed any other problems except the battery will once in a while read 9% when I'm way higher. Usually leaving the phone in idle/sleep mode for a minute or two fixes itself automatically. But it's worth the trade off for the ICS look, to me anyways. What's weird is if I go into setting/battery it'll display the correct battery %. Even when the battery icon is working it is always 2% less than actual battery displayed in settings.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] inspectagadget:
Stock calculator app

Another thing wrong with this theme, is somehow my stock calc doesn't work anymore after installing. I have tried doing a fresh install without deleting the msging apk and with deleting it, it doesn't matter. How could this be? Did I miss something?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] karth500:
I had the same issue as well. The battery reporting was completely wonky. At times it would tell me my battery was dead or it would go the other way and tell me I had 88% left when I only had 8 and then proceed to drop 10% every 5 mins thereafter :-) . I really liked everything else though. I like the stock browser, the calculator, the themed tw camera and most importantly the monochrome settings.

In any case I went back to stock shostock and just replaced shostock apps with ones from this theme that I liked. I guess that will have to do till the battery mod is fixed.I hope it is fixed though since apart from that one issue this theme was pretty awesome.

Sent from my SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] karth500:
Stock calc meaning the tw calculator? I have both the ics calc and the tw one and it works fine for me.

Sent from my SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] inspectagadget:
Yeah the TW calc. I wonder what is wrong with mine then? I was going to just live with the wonky battery cause I liked the theme so much.