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[Galaxy S II General] dreamer94:
Tried many ics roms.But battery draining was soo much :( also some little bugs that they are very important for me.

Long story short, home sweet home gb 2.3.6 :)
[Galaxy S II General] DoItJust:
Try Slim ICS ...
[Galaxy S II General] m0h1t:
or Hydrog3n ICS, thats also pretty decent.
[Galaxy S II General] IkidPT:
Yeap...but batista foxhound is the most stable that i have..without losing some apps...

Peace
[Galaxy S II General] sulligogs:
MIUI Scrolling is perfect

I had a moan a few pages ago about the scrolling in ICS/CM9. It can feel sticky at times and can be a tad frustrating to use.

Well, I had a blast on MIUI 2.5.11 and yes, whilst there are elements of iPhone (the white menus and the settings icon) I have to say it has the best ICS scrolling experience out of CM9 and HyDrOG3N-ICS. It is rapid!

On top of that the touchkeys work exactly the same way as on the stock rom, including pressing the touchscreen to make the keys light up for a second.

Just my two cents. I will be paying closer attention to MIUI from now on.
[Galaxy S II General] Pizzaface123:
Im so close to trying MIUI for the first time now, should i flash ics or gb version?
[Galaxy S II General] CarpeDiem_PT:
WIUI over MIUI

Guys, instead of sticking to a basic rom, already quite nice and different from all the green and blue we are used to, why not give a shot at WIUI instead?

As for original topic of thread, and all complaints about battery drain regarding ICS, i just quit using live wallpapers, and battery lasts forever!!!

l8rz
[Galaxy S II General] daimler1727:
Two words: Poll Results

I'm on stock ICS with CFRoot... Battery lasts for three days with normal use--average SMS and calls.
[Galaxy S II General] undersc0re:
ICS is the best i love how simple it is and great for mutlitasking :D
[Galaxy S II General] stijnec:
ICS is great, it's just a pity that Facebook API is not working like in Gingerbread
[Galaxy S II General] Iceanimator:
I dont think its bugs free. It is nvr easy to rid of all the bugs. If you are unsatisfied by ICS then you can always go back to GB.

I for one love ICS and its the only reason why I had my phone flash with custom rom.
[Galaxy S II General] karolain:
Gingerbread in very fast!!!

Ics is young ........
[Galaxy S II General] Marcb:
Just a quick comparison on how Samsung failed on bringing the ICS to GSII like that... take a look on the ICS version for the Droid Razr:

I think that's closet to ICS AOSP I've ever seen... Now that's what I'd like to see from Samsung... improvements over Gingerbread... not only change GB to ICS under the hood...
[Galaxy S II General] enchanterloafer:
Dude how u on stock from with root ? IRS noob question but plz reply thanks
[Galaxy S II General] enchanterloafer:
Try R. Remix v2.... it great rom
[Galaxy S II General] baysakhal:
Why is that? FB works great both in GB and ICS...

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What type of rom are you using exactly, I prefer Omega Rom, BTW the new v14 is released today!
[Galaxy S II General] masondoctorjt:
My battery life almost doubled after the ics update,and my sensation is much faster, so no, It's not a failure.
[Galaxy S II General] flicka81:
+1 :D:D:D:D

Sent from my GT-I9100 using westcrips amazing RR V2.0
[Galaxy S II General] LeAxe:
Seriously... why would it be a failure?

When you put ICS close to the older versions of Android, you see nothing but improvements...

Are you comparing with other OS?
[Galaxy S II General] dk206:
Don't really see any battery performance enhancements. My GSII battery life has nearly halved after a clean install of Samsung's stock 4.0.3. Waiting eagerly for the 4.0.3 update....
[Galaxy S II General] elzi005:
I updated my GSII to official ICS with TouchWiz 4.0, and have been playing with it for a long time. Battery life improvement does exist, i think it's about 20-30% and everything works great and smooth except the bluetooth. I still haven't tried sending any files to another ICS device but when I try to send ANYTHING to a gingerbread device it doesn't work. When I connect my GSII to my laptop everything works great. I will post again when I send some files to a ICS device and i will tell you all how it went.
[Galaxy S II General] timberwolf60:
I don't see any improvement on ICS ower gingerbread except the face unlock. one big problem was no more 3rd party tts support where I can used it on gingerbread. And Samsung tts no more supporting Chinese tts. SVOX and ifytext tts no more further supported.
[Galaxy S II General] emy_atb:
can i flash I9100XWLPG (4.0.3) - Nordic Countries (NEE) via odin to an Orange BRANDED device?..now i have I9100BVLPB_I9100OROLPB_ORO...

thank you
[Galaxy S II General] moffyboy:
I guess I'm happy with it overall but would have liked some bigger changes. An improved music player would have been nice.
[Galaxy S II General] agdroubi:
I hope all our opinions change upon the official 4.0.4 Samsung roms are released.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
Highly unlikely.
[Galaxy S II General] agdroubi:
unfortunately this will happen
[Galaxy S II General] King_Rat:
nice features ^^ ugly GUI :(
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
You are talking about samsung ics, right?
[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
For me it's a failure! I have a Galaxy S2 and I tried almost every ICS ROM that has come out till now. I'm really disappointed by the browser, which is now laggy and not as perfectly smooth as it was in Gingerbread! I hope they will fix it soon! Moreover the phone gets reaaaaally hot when I'm using it and battery was so much better in 2.3.6 . I get 2 days of heavy use with the 2000 mah battery with GB, while with ICS I get 1 day! I tried to wait and do many cicles to calibrate the battery but it doesn't help at all!

I really don't see any improvement except from the smoother UI
[Galaxy S II General] cc999:
What version of 2.36 are you using?

CC
[Galaxy S II General] King_Rat:
blue on dark grey/black = yuck I.M.O

PS - CM9 etc. not stock Samsung ^^ that's just laggy as heck!!
[Galaxy S II General] Monki:
I think the same, I don't know what I was expecting though really. I guess Google assume it's up to the manufacturers to make a flashy UI and they just provide the basics.

The square boxes (e.g paste) are butt ugly though..

The nicest I've seen ICS look was with Sensation 3.4 rom or VK rom with el liberator's Wall Blueberry jkay based theme. Both are cool :)

Sent from a Galaxy S 2 far away.
[Galaxy S II General] coolsixty:
agreed. really disoppointing, did not gain anything from ics. Samgsumg, please at least give us a stable version ics.
[Galaxy S II General] thegreatdead69:
Hey guys

I'm loving ICS.. try reading this article guys, It really helped me a lot.

Best way to make perfect ICS

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[Galaxy S II General] ecopy:
I voted Yes, but no hate at all. I just use custom ICS.

I dunno if ICS has some architecture advantages compared to GB. For me the reason to move to ICS is that a lot of rom-makers discontinued developing for GB, and I as a consumer like to have modern features.

And now I am waiting for 2 new features of 4.1 to come to my sgs2: butter project and offline voice recognition.
[Galaxy S II General] Mkdon:
ICS was Windows Vista for ANdroid community

In short / in principle ICS was a facelift for Gingerbread or in other words a windows vista upgrade given to a Windows XP users. It never really rendered the value to its end users what was expected.

Not just because JellyBean JB is out now i am saying this. But after reviewing the google IO 2012 JB preview its quite clear that we expected the JB features in ICS when it was released last year. So i would say JB would bring the real benefit to Android users now and take full advantage of Google's technology.

Thumps down for ICS:bad: and Thumps UP for Jelly Bean:good:.

Good luck.

MK
[Galaxy S II General] Monki:
Haha! Nice :P

Sent from a Galaxy S 2 far away.
[Galaxy S II General] augustofretes:
The only failure around is your opinion deprived of any evidence. Can you provide us with any empirical data that supports the assertions: "ICS is slower".
[Galaxy S II General] :
I flashed two GB-roms yesterday: Stock 2.3.5 and checkrom based on xwla4.

To be honest....there are advantages and disadvantages on both sides. Screen scrolling was smoother on GB, but it seems more responsive on ICS. Although there's funny thing: add a folder, open it and then swipe. What you will see is jerky scroll on GB and buttery smooth on ICS. On the other hand if you apply custom window animations (like rudolf, flying, bounce etc) they work fast and nice on GB. Unfortunately it's much slower and sometimes even laggy on ICS. But booting process and especially media scan is noticeably faster on ice cream sandwich. (I didn't use stopwatch though :) )

So I cannot say that ICS is so bad. It can be better, still a lot to improve, but I really like it.
[Galaxy S II General] raveenrox:
i dont think ICS is a total failure although there are some cons like it consumes more battery than GB. but the 4.0.4 is better than 4.0.3
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
JB is what ICS should have been just like windows 7 is to vista :)

That doesn't mean ICS is/was a failure. It's just that I'm in love with JB

Sent from my Galaxy S2 powered by CM9
[Galaxy S II General] shamji83:
Dude..its not a failure.. its really amazing!!!..

Why do you think its a failure?
[Galaxy S II General] MemoryController:
I love ics only because of chrome
[Galaxy S II General] handcremedeluxe:
Since ICS I don't experience any lags anymore and battery life is about the same. I'm very happy with it. 2 months ago I switched back to gb 2.3.6 and I couldn't stand the lagginess.
[Galaxy S II General] baysakhal:
I just love ICS especially the clean one

Sent by using Internet
[Galaxy S II General] baysakhal:
But still waiting for 4.1 JB!!!

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Right you are!
[Galaxy S II General] D4rKn3sSyS:
Sorry dude, but AOSP ics is pure owneage. It just rulz, google did a home-run with that OS.
[Galaxy S II General] Omega Frost:
They had to launch ICS, keeping a system without any cache considerations for multicore and concurrent app execution is a step backwards.
[Galaxy S II General] alvin.durant:
I've tried CM9 but as mentioned in the previous post its a battery killer,

can you give some suggestions of what XWLP4 based cooked rom is stable + kernel? thanks.
[Galaxy S II General] A|ex:
ICS is not that official yet with samsung holding off pushing it out ota to phones purchased out right and have said in the media that they are letting carriers test it out first. Personally i believe that ICS is too new, too many things need to be ironed out and samsung holding off is ideal.

I have tested a few ics roms out and there are always a fair few show stoppers on main apps or things that just annoy.

Wait a while when they get the bugs ironed out and it iwll be extremely stable. Gingerbread and froyo had its fair share of bugs when they first were released.
[Galaxy S II General] BAlfa:
back when ginger was hot new bread

you can read lot of the same complaint.

the only fail will happen for whom not catching the evolution quickly.
[Galaxy S II General] valentinrascu:
Quote!! Ics for me is disaster in touch and usability..custom rom is the same fing! Ginger is much bether and stable! More batery also..

Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II General] Mittaa:
Why this un-nuanced poll?

Yes, I hate it

No, it is awesome

It's not awesome and I do not hate it :cool:

But it's a bit better than GB and it's a step in the right direction :)
[Galaxy S II General] Yarox:
I simply cannot agree with you. I've been using a stock DXLP7 (the first official ICS from Indonesia I believe) since it was released and I have found no flaws whatsoever. It's perfect and better in pretty much all ways compared to GB.
[Galaxy S II General] skibadee:
LOL
[Galaxy S II General] angelomaldito:
LPS+ Apex launcher (and a full wipe if you're upgrading from GB, or if you didn't it when you was) is my better experience with a phone so far. IMHO, ICS has a lot of improvements in relation to GB, from battery life to the way you're able to control widgets, passing by responsiveness and much better multi-tasking. Unfortunately (and understandably) Samsung decided to keep TW4 with the same appearance and similar functionality, as 99% of the users out there, unlike here in XDA, are not fanatical geeks, and therefore they wouldn't appreciate if their phones, which they are already used to, were completely transformed overnight after they've got an update. That's why I'm currently using the Apex launcher, which implements better some of the ICS new functionalities (e.g. Widgers on drawer, actual resizing of any widget, etc) and also allows to use different grids and transition effects on home screen and drawer. In short, LPS+Apex launcher= NO fail. That's my honest opinion.

PS.: the only bug I've found so far was an "eternal" download of a Gmail attachment which I apparently couldn't stop, but which I solved clearing the android download manager apk data and cache. It happened only once, and no more bugs since then.
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
*gets on soap box*

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeell no!

*gets off soapbox*
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
Funny, my clean install has same battery life as XILA4... You must be holding it wrong. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] peachpuff:
The only thing that's a failure is google rolling it out to all phones, they really have to rethink their current strategy of releasing an aosp phone and then giving the sources to oem's and having them build their firmware around it which seems to take 6 to 12 months.
[Galaxy S II General] dorinrockeru:
in my opinion,yes it is a crap...i use a lot of ics roms and all have the same problem...the first problem is the battery drain.i still have GB on my s2
[Galaxy S II General] tazer4:
ICS is faster than GB due to the hardware accelertion and the battery life is exactly the same for me. Be sure you guys are doing full wipes you dont want any GB crust and other trash left over thats what might be ruining your ICS experience.
[Galaxy S II General] mckeowngoo:
For me battery life is the same, whether it's a GB or ICS.

ICS isn't a failure.

The failure if any lies with the manufacturers and carriers with their skinned and themed versions of the OS. I've used the stock Samsung ROM and Touchwiz doesn't bother me as much as it does others but I rid myself of the UK Vodafone software, rooted and flashed a new ROM as soon as I got the phone. I'd upgraded from a Nexus One which was running CM7 so I wanted the same user experience that the Cyanogenmod ROM provided.

The manufacturers take ages to perfect a ROM, the carriers **** around with the manufacturers software release and then spend another couple of months "perfecting" it before it OTA'd to their customers phones.

Most phone users couldn't care less but we happy few want the best, the greatest, the most up to date software and we hate to wait.

Yes, the early release software was bug ridden but praise the Lord that there were a lot of leaked ICS ROM's by Samsung and the smart people on here managed to release decent ROM's that started off as experimental and turned very quickly in to daily drivers.

So, the manufacturer to a certain extent dropped the ball but leaked a lot of their early software and the community pulled it out of the bag and kept us supplied with lots of nice ICS ROM's.

The carriers will always mess around and delay updates so nothing new there.

In conclusion, no ICS isn't a failure but the implementation by the carriers and to a lesser extent the manufacturers is.
[Galaxy S II General] darkfra:
Absolutely not, in my opinion is a great OS
[Galaxy S II General] Blacklabel84:
its def a failure because it isnt out for gnote yet! >…<
[Galaxy S II General] turborider:
yes it is a big big failure because is so buggy,they keep updating every couple months and they have no idea how bad it is,the only thing i love android is Flash Player,when windows 8 mobile comes out thats it android is going down to the freaking toilet,no one can complete with them
[Galaxy S II General] htcplussony:
I don't know if ICS is a failure but the Google Android Update Alliance sure is.
[Galaxy S II General] buffon95:
your poll isnt correct

ics is awesome if it's clear, as google planned it. ice creamed andoid don't blame for that gnusmas ****ed him with "THEIR HANDSOME UI ANT TW" and other "mods" ;)

so made a correction please. did you mention samsung roms or AOSP
[Galaxy S II General] Keith.Someone:
I agree with you 100%

I've restored my previous GB backups during the early ICS betas, but now I'm not planning to go back to GB, ever!

Furthermore, I appreciate the work Samsung has put into their ROMs. Yes, they could have given us an evolution of TouchWiz, but let's see what time brings.

Hate is such a strong word! If you're not satisfied with your SGS2, why not sell it and get a RAZR, ARC S, Sensation or iPhone. No phone is perfect. The sooner you realise this, the better. You have a choice...use it!
[Galaxy S II General] xpresotw:
Yups some of apps & games are lags during any...

I've restored my gb rom backup and flashibg the speedmod kernel :)
[Galaxy S II General] marcwkh:
Unless they solved the freezing problem when enabling wifi, I don't see the point to move from GB.
[Galaxy S II General] Keith.Someone:
What freezing problem? I've been using wi-fi all the time to connect to my mi-fi router without any issues.
[Galaxy S II General] citytrader:
Ics is a placebo

I think ICS is like IOS 5, a placebo, when i was on IOS 4.3.3 on my ipad never changed to the buggy 5.1, it drains battery and does not show a difference in my day by day use.

In my SGS2 I use it mostly for calls, voip, video with fring, Tango, Skype, web and nothing more than that, what will change to me hardware asceleration!?,I dont have any lag in my phone, come on people, what do you expect from a phone, a Core i7 extreme? that is my desktop computer, I dont understand people running benchmark trying to get more 200 points... for what?

What would make me happy to hear about ics is that hardware asceleration will give you double battery, this is a real advantage.

Does ICS has the posibility to calibrate the screen colors because it has the worse color rendition I see in a telephone? for what I know no.

Is the notification system is really improved using the hardware leds!?

I dont experiment lag, yes a millisecond more doesn´t change my life, but a control of screen color rendition yes.

Why telephone builders don't give us a small working phone with battery for a week instead of building telephones bigger and buggy? at the end I will finishing to carry my ipad instead of a phone because its size!! :)

Why so many ROM releases!?, come on people, why dont you make a cooperative ROM instead of releasing 30 custom roms?, release one with the power of all the good programmers and builders here, everything will change... but today nobody wants to cooperate together to build THE ROM, so, everything will continue to go in this way: buggy.
[Galaxy S II General] harise100:
You claim ICS is slower than GB? On what basis may I ask?

On ICS (no OC) I get 6200+ points with Antutu. As far as I remember 6000+ points were only possible with GB ROMs that had ICS components build in like CheckRom v4+ and a ton of other optimizations. With stock gb - no way.
[Galaxy S II General] marcwkh:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28036
[Galaxy S II General] Keith.Someone:
I've never experienced this issue and I use wi-fi 70% of the day (the other 30% I'm asleep).I've also been using ics since before Christmas and I'm currently on LPS.
[Galaxy S II General] theunforgivenmetal:
in my humble opinion, I find pure ICS way better than GB. i quite like the new stylished ui and the colour contrast between the blue and black. also the couple more features added in the new os like face unlock, although impractical, gives me more chance to lord my phone over the apple barista's
[Galaxy S II General] mckeowngoo:
Face lock is fun for about two minutes and then gets irritating when your in a low light environment.

Listen, this all sounds and feels a tad fan-boyish. So you don't like 4.0 and prefer 2.3...so what!

For me there is very little difference in general battery & system performance. Yes the UI is nice on ICS but GB is just as good. The hardware of the S2 is blazing fast and covers up the shortcomings of GB, something I think we'll see when improvement tweaks and upgrades to ICS are released in the coming months. Plus everyone will have to upgrade sooner our later when the next killer app system requirements are 4.0 and above.

In the end JB will be upon us and we'll all be complaining that Samsung won't release an upgrade for the S2!
[Galaxy S II General] B3311:
Your point being what? How many people here do you think use stock GB? And why do you think benchmarks are proof that one ROM is quicker than another?

I find benchmarks pointless usually, but have tried antutu for one run on each of my preferred ROMs. I have 3 custom GB ROMs, none have any ICS components, none are OCd, and all scored 6200+ on the one and only time I benchmarked them.

This shows that they got good antutu scores and nothing else. They're all quicker than any ICS I've tried - don't need to run further benchmarks to prove it for my usage. As said earlier, I've tried 36 ICS/kernel combos in the last week, and I don't doubt they would get wonderful super benchmark scores - so what? None are quicker than the aforementioned GB ROMs for my setup.
[Galaxy S II General] norpan111:
Dude, no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy bigger and buggier phones. In my country we are free to buy wich ever phone suits us the most. If telephone manufactors are selling 50% more of their phone that is bigger, i think they might continue with that.

And making one big ROM would be one big MESS. Again, its about choice...why even bother about the number of them? You find your own fav and stick with it, if your not happy with it then there is plenty more to chose from. Im happy there is such many different flavors and development actually.
[Galaxy S II General] omeryounos:
Op.....Simply no....if u are in doubt check the poor ICS implementation by HTC on Sensation. On Galaxy S2, certainly it can be improved but the current implementation is pretty good....
[Galaxy S II General] blunted09:
The smoothness in the browser is the only thing that is really preventing me from updating.
[Galaxy S II General] goamushroom:
ICS Rulez

Hey guys,

I've acquired a Galaxy II about two months ago and it had Gingerbread with the Samsung Stuff and a couple apps from my phone carrier.

Being a techie, I found the Samsung apps (most of them) and the general design "vewy pweety", "vewy colowful".. aww... but they sucked, they diminished the experience I had on my ZTE Blade with Gingerbread 2.3 !

No more than a week till I had "Pure ICS" on it, and the feel was that "ICS RULEZ". Today I'm running "Pure ICS 7.2" and the occasional FCs are gone.

Great overall improvements in my opinion:

Network Data Manager

Energy Saver

Improved Browser

Improved Design / Look n Feel

- Overall and specially on Contacts and Messaging

Folders

Widget previews

What happened under the hood I'm not much into Mobile OSs to go at that level, if its better or worse.

But bear in mind that from now on, tablets and mobiles will be having one unique platform or code-base, meaning that the improvements will potentially be even greater in next relases. You won't have the Tablet Dev Team and the Mobile Dev Team, they will go hand-in-hand with each other.

"Two are smarter than one" :)

Have fun
[Galaxy S II General] anto.danny:
When i was using stock ICS i was under the impression that it was fast,but the moment i flashed CM9 its the opposite of what i was thinking...CM9 rulzzzzz...its super fluid and smooth and as far as battery concern its same as stock ICS :D:D..and yes i do miss some features of touchwiz apps... :(