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[Galaxy S II General] wltklah:
I think ICS itself is heading to the right direction, and it's good. But what Google can do better to provide better user experiences is to pull down or limit ICS users to download apps that are not ICS ready from the Play store. This way, it can push all app developers to provide update for ICS. This is kind of like a cycle problem. If people don't use ICS, developers are reluctant to update. I know when time goes by, it will be sorted, but letting people download incompatible apps doesn't do any good for Android's reputation.
[Galaxy S II General] koodiifin:
I completely agree with you. May I ask what your daily driver ROM is? Thanks.
[Galaxy S II General] brainimpact:
I had no choice but to vote no, its awesome b/c theres only two options.

third option I would of voted for was

"Its delivered what was intended"

as its done its Job and converged both Smartphone and Tablet versions in to one.

Next version will be when a lot more noticeable changes come I believe
[Galaxy S II General] B3311:
See post #19.
[Galaxy S II General] godutch:
Not true, for me at least until I installed ics I was plagues by the aos bug and now it's gone... Also ICS was only released around christmas 2011, so it's just 3 months
[Galaxy S II General] cyberboob:
This is a double edged sword. On 1 hand, I do think Samsung released a mediocre ICS, trying to keep it like the old GB feel and look. But it's pretty smooth.

On the other hand - if you can put enough faith into the ROM developers here, there are a few VERY nice ROMs that are nice and stable and fast with less battery consumption than it used to have.

So my vote is NO - seeing as I like the mods I'm on.
[Galaxy S II General] readymaker:
after having tried several ics roms (mostly cm9, aokp, miui) i finally returned to a more stock based rom (sensation rom).

the pity is that the stock roms lack certain cm9 features (national roaming, octo lockscreen,...) and the beauty of especially miui.

on the other hand aosp roms just don't work as the should yet. only to mention fm radio...

all in all ics is a big step forward but in my opinion it is still a beta. so we have to give it some time, then it will be great!
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
Currently it sucks...im still on GB after trying many ics roms...but i believe when more stable builds come i will switch to ics
[Galaxy S II General] harise100:
I don't care about benchmarks either, but if you claim GB is so much faster, again, what is your basis?

I say ICS is faster, therefore it must be faster because I say so?!?!

I'm happy with ICS, that's all.
[Galaxy S II General] gh.rohit:
Yes as we are getting custom kernel for ics....... ics is too becoming faster with some tweaks.

Just incase you want to see smoothness of gb, download my final gb miui rom (if you wish to try). Its very smooth. :)
[Galaxy S II General] alferret:
IMO ICS is better than GB for battery & speed.

I had just over 4hrs screen on with 21% left after 36hrs. Couldn't even get close to that on GB with the way I use my phone. LP4 & Syiah 3.0 best user experience on my SGS2 in the 6 months I have had the phone.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] seburn:
Only a Sith deals in absolutes
[Galaxy S II General] RoRo1990:
ICS owns touchwiz sucks though thank god for themes and launchers
[Galaxy S II General] themohd:
CM9 ROCKS - its the best rom in the past, present and eternity :cool:

I can get 2 days battery with light usage on stock battery.

2days+ with extremely heavy usage on sammy OEM 2000mAh battery.

Note: It's underclocked and the speed is sooo fast and 0 lag.
[Galaxy S II General] aouni_tahech:
Bro, flash CM9 .. come on, we have all threw our iphones in the garbage and moved to Android because of flexibility and custom roms. If you bought your SGS2 just for Samsung roms, then you've probably missed the awesomeness behind Android.
[Galaxy S II General] alc027:
I picked failure because of Samsung roms. CM and AOKP roms changed my mind.
[Galaxy S II General] DjeMBeY:
People like You shouldn't have rights to speak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You never tried ICS but moaning about as hell!!!!!!!! Try it, play with it and then say something!!!! ICS maybe not perfect but we're living in such a Non-Perfect world so be serious and stop crying......
[Galaxy S II General] PHilclfc:
I prefer gb but don't think it's a failure
[Galaxy S II General] B3311:
Sorry, it's now obvious to me that you don't care about benchmarks.

Oh wait, what was it you said again? Oh yes, this little piece, which has nothing to do with benchmarks...

Thanks for clearing that up....

Since you don't care about them, you're probably not interested to know that I'm currently a beta tester for a pure AOSP ROM. It's one of the fastest and smoothest I've ever tried in any flavour - GB/ICS/CM7/CM9/AOKP/AOSP - scrolling is a pleasure. Probably only Insanity CM7 has been quicker for me.

Antutu? 6020... Go figure...

Good. That's really all that matters. I'm happy with GB. The aforementioned ROM I'm testing is the only one I'm considering changing to.
[Galaxy S II General] Alvin Lai:
One words for op - id@£0t
[Galaxy S II General] norpan111:
I can't even pronounce that
[Galaxy S II General] Nojevah:
So many haters here. It is certainly an interesting discussion. GB and ICS allow to do the same stuff. It is normal to compare them.

I think I prefer ICS especially because it's the last update, and I'm the kind of noob who likes to have the last "hype" stuff. But honestly, as a casual user (and not developer), except some options which are not at the same place or some new icons, they are identical.

FYI, I use a Samsung based ROM with ICS theme (WanamLite 10.6). I'm not interested in CM9 yet (too much haters in discusssion thread). :)
[Galaxy S II General] raf2k:
Haha 1d 1h with screen ON 9%. Im getting over 1d with 36-42% screen ON.

You barelly use your phone.
[Galaxy S II General] themohd:
yep I use it from time to time, thats why I said on light usage

btw I still have 13% and now its 1 day 11 hours.

and I made about 7 phone calls :p
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
What's this "phone call" you speak of??
[Galaxy S II General] roughavoc:
I personally think ICS is decent. Stock v Stock I think that ICS is better; battery life is slightly slightly worse, scrolling isnt what I wanted it to be but the speed overall is better. I feel when navigating between apps and stuff ICS just performs better. ICS also brings better looking Gmail and YouTube.

Now onto CM7 vCM9. For me CM7 brought what I wanted in the phone, faster overall, lots more modifications available including MIUI. However as a major music listener the problem with the volume is a major problem

CM9 solves the volume problem but brings other problems into it. Ive been using CM9 stock for a week now, battery life isn't the best but I'm sure Siyah will sort that out, flicking between apps is smooth but sometimes I get problems with apps hanging and not being as responsive, keyboard just not being as quick as to type on and other stuff thats just annoying

To sum up, ICS Stock is slightly better than GB stock

CM7 V CM9, they both have there advantages and disadvantages, I personally like CM7 better but that's probably down to CM9 still being in Beta

ICS isn't a failure, people were expecting far too much out of it. Samsung have done good with their build
[Galaxy S II General] daniel9895:
i am running into the same problems, after i updated my sg2 i9100 device to stock ics 4.0.3 rom (rooted).

some of the bugs n disliked options ive found out are

phone dialer lag

phone log screen swipe left or right to call/text totally messed up

the smileys are downright ugly

phone battery life diminished

phone overheats a lot, even when its idle..i recieve a message then after 5 mins its real hot around the camera area

bluetooth rSAP not available

applications force close a lot!!

these are the ones ive found out...dunno how many more are there!! frankly am thinking about downgrading to gingerbread
[Galaxy S II General] themohd:
phone calls are known to consume more battery, so my usage wasn't so light it was fair usage, btw the screen usage ratio is low cuz I keep the brightness minimum, normal ratio is around 45% with auto brightness. :D

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Bro try CM9, the latest build is almost bugless, unless if you use mhl cable or fm radio.
[Galaxy S II General] daniel9895:
I am planning to, but cant decide between ressurrection remix,GB 2.3.6,CM9 & CM7
[Galaxy S II General] i1allz:
ICS is not awesome but still better than GB, it's good enough.
[Galaxy S II General] np231:
10 Reasons why ICS is better than iOS

This article sums it up really well. have a look.

http://www.thegadgetmasters.com/201...ice-cream-sandwich-is-better-than-apples-ios/
[Galaxy S II General] achinchawla:
Battery problem with ICS

Hi,

I don't know how you guys are getting such a good battery backup. Mine is sucked to the core. Since the time I upgraded to XXLPQ i've been getting pathetic battery backup. Wanted to downgrade to GB 2.3.5 on Touchwiz but ended up giving ICS one more thought and installed Resurrection Remix. A good ICS Rom for sure but sucks a hell lot of battery. I read a lot of users suggested to clear Dalvik Cache, Battery Cache and a Wipe, done it all, nothing solved my concern here so finally decided to downgrade to GB.
[Galaxy S II General] TTManUK:
ICS introducing all the confirmation messages for basic actions i.e. turn off, silent is very annoying and is what led me to investigate CFW. Going from GB to ICS is what made me discover this forum so its not all bad!

I've not had my SGS2 long but have definitely noticed a reduction in battery life since installing ICS in addition to more instances of applications freezing as well. I preferred GB to be honest but will find a ROM to make ICS work for me.
[Galaxy S II General] Blubbies:
ICS roxx!

but samsung's stock rom for SGS2 sucks so muchs :s
[Galaxy S II General] daniel9895:
Yes it does. I am planning to shift back to gingerbread or over to some custom roms like ressurection remix pro or cm9

Can anyone suggest me a very good rom which is bug free and offers good batter life and performance please??
[Galaxy S II General] albertholl:
Try this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1194765

The Sensation Rom is stable, and battery friendly.
[Galaxy S II General] achinchawla:
Most of the apps aren't compatible with ICS 4.0.3 that's why they collapse in a Force Close. I was quite disappointed with battery performance too, as it is supposed to be improved but if you notice the amount of RAM it consumes, you would be amazed if your battery lasts a day as well. With no apps open, it consumes 500 megs of RAM in general, where as GB only consumed 300 mbs.

I just downgraded to Gingerbread 2.3.6 stock kernal and quite happy with the performance. I actually missed the colourful interface that Touchwiz has :D
[Galaxy S II General] Aincalandorn:
I think Samsung's implementation of ICS is getting there.

I did play with the Galaxy Nexus last week and enjoyed it.
[Galaxy S II General] achinchawla:
True, it is getting there but very slow. If you want a good exposure if ics, try Resurrection Pro Remix 1.1. Its an awesome ROM and definitely worth a try.
[Galaxy S II General] albertholl:
I don't agree.

I went from GB to ICS (sensation)

I made a backup with Titanium Backup in GB

and restored this backup in ICS. Not one problem.

No FC at all. Battery from 100% to 88% in 8 hours.(today)

Made som calls, used internet, sync is one, Wifi is on BT is on.

Al running as normal
[Galaxy S II General] achinchawla:
If so, send me the links mate, probably help me and so many others who've shifted back to GB due to these disappointments...:)
[Galaxy S II General] imfin:
couldn't find right choice in the poll

it's no failure, it isn't awesome either it's another step forward, still a step one should make....;)
[Galaxy S II General] albertholl:
I hope your are rooted. If not, you have to.

This is the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1194765

I have tested a lot of (ICS) ROMs, but this one is stable as promised by the developer.

The only issue I have is with BT. It function OK, but it doesn't remember my car radio. That's all. I suppose it will be solved when final version of Samsung is released.

Succes
[Galaxy S II General] scuzzbag87:
Ics is awesome I no longer get checkerboarding in the browser thanks to hardware acceleration. Chrome is badass Etc. phone performs better than gb
[Galaxy S II General] achinchawla:
No problems mate, I don't use bluetooth myself..!
[Galaxy S II General] Pancakes_Gio:
NO!

Its very good!!:)

Inviato dal mio GT-S5660 con XDA PREMIUM
[Galaxy S II General] albertholl:
Any succes?
[Galaxy S II General] achinchawla:
Haven't tried it yet Albert. Will do so today or tomorrow.
[Galaxy S II General] :
opinion

no
[Galaxy S II General] jialongz2:
I am using Resurrection Remix v1.2 by westcrip, it works perfectly for me:D
[Galaxy S II General] Leoul:
+1
[Galaxy S II General] sxi200:
Wouldn't say it's a failure but I.have tried almost everything but nothing compares to my gb setup.

Sent from my GT-I9100T
[Galaxy S II General] bmbm:
Ics solved my biggest problem - random phone reboot. Alse battery usage is lot of better then GB. I'm using custom ROM - Lite'ning Rom - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
[Galaxy S II General] JoNAsOS3:
ICS looks great so far, and it's only getting better. Currently using Ressurrection Remix 1.2, and it's works great! Scrolling issues seem to have been mostly fixed, and I'm no longer getting random reboots. Still some bugs, of course, but the various teams and developers are doing a fantastic job :) Samsungs official ICS rom however (at least for me) was a huge let-down.
[Galaxy S II General] Tool-kit:
Under the hood I greatly rate that ICS is pretty awesome. Just that the mobile network carrier screw things up a bit by stuffing it with a lot of their own things.

Glory be to Custom ROMS for relieving us from that.

*personal opinion*
[Galaxy S II General] daniel9895:
Please let us know asap about how the sensation rom update goes
[Galaxy S II General] daniel9895:
Are the various bugs from ressurrection remix pro 1.1 fixed in 1.2?
[Galaxy S II General] daniel9895:
And most importantly!!

How is the battery life??
[Galaxy S II General] agee_d:
ICS defiantly isn't a failure.. i am using Hyogenmod and is it so much better then i thought it would be!everything is great... Better battery life then what i used to get in GB on the stock (even the official samsung ICS had better battery life then what i was getting) also faster, i think for the most part easier and better looking then then GB to use.
[Galaxy S II General] THUDUK:
Definately not a failure just not quite there yet, I believed it was, tried all the ics roms up until yesterday when I accidentally restored checkrom v6 and couldn't believe just how sensitive the screen was, I thought the scrolling and touch screen was Sorted even trying the other kernels and setting the sensitivity to 5. But it just doesn't come close to the GB especially with Checkrom, its a shame as the SGS2 has one of the most sensitive screens, I'm sure ics will evolve just has gb did.
[Galaxy S II General] Srbija2012:
I happen to think that CM9 is one of the buggier ICS roms. There are others that are more stable, although not perfect.
[Galaxy S II General] shareking:
ICS is superb.. but still improvement required.. need to be more stable...
[Galaxy S II General] mobuch:
ICS

ICS is a step into good direction.. it's 'fresher' then GB in terms of UI (despite of ech stuff). Remember that for average user, GUI is one of the most important parts of the OS.

All the tech spec. of devices are meaningless for common guys out there, they don't care if there is a single or dual core beast inside - they want to have nice looking device + nice looking OS.. ICS gives them that.
[Galaxy S II General] Fulgore.:
I totally agree.

The average user isn't about reading change logs or getting into technical stuff, he wants to have improvements he can see and feel - and you mainly get this by having an improved GUI and system tweaks.

ICS does both well - having a lot of small UI change and add-ons that can really make the Android experience better, smoother, more intuitive and more "complete" (feeling like they thought about (almost) everything).

Performance also went up in ICS, my device is the smoothest I ever had - while browsing, gaming, scrolling etc (this is regardless to a specific rom/kernel combo).

I don't feel like we got some future technology or a GUI that would make the one in Minority Report seem outdated, but ICS is definitely a step in the right direction and it's about improving Android and not redefining it. So I don't consider it a "disappointment" for not making Android 4 seem like something completely new.
[Galaxy S II General] galmok:
Well, I tried ICS for about a week and then downgraded to GB again. I simply couldn't stand the non-linear (and unpredictable) scrolling in ICS. Also, the scrolling wasn't as fluid as on GB. And the browser was much worse in that it didn't render everything when the pages was scrolled fast (which in itself was more difficult in that the scrolling slows down much faster with ICS but at the same time remembers scroll speed even if stopped with a finger on the screen for just a fraction of a second. GB stopped right away and if you scrolled the other way, it didn't use the previous scroll speed which ICS has a tendency to do). And there didn't seem to be any flash support.

Also, scrolling through emails was more sluggish than with GB.

Besides scrolling issues, there were other quirks were GB worked just fine.

On the upside, I think ICS provided better battery life, but if that was achieved by sacrificing CPU for scroll, I'd rather have fluid scrolling.

So, if GB-scrolling can be used on ICS, I'd probably give it another go (for sure if the GB browser is put on ICS).
[Galaxy S II General] Fulgore.:
Scrolling can be heavily affected by the rom and kernel you are using (and governor & scheduler combo).

On AOSP roms I had worse scrolling than GB, on Samsung based roms at least as good or better compare to what I had on Checkrom V6.

I had good results with WanamLite / VK with Siyah / SpeedMod using Ondemand + Sio / Noop.
[Galaxy S II General] dadyal:
i think ur just woke up at morning and posted it once you wer half sleep :)
[Galaxy S II General] DarkDvr:
"Yes I love it"

"No I hate it"

Those are the two options?

I bet a much more popular would be "It's good progress, but there's room for improvement"
[Galaxy S II General] robox88:
a middle way, the changes could be more
[Galaxy S II General] Flambo182:
I'm a big fan of ICS, nice clean look and for the most part flawless on Westcrip's Res Remix.
[Galaxy S II General] amititzhaki:
i'm using bezke's aokp rom right now. battery consumption isn't as good as in the GB roms, but speed is still good, and i like the new theme and features.

overall, wouldn't say ICS is a failure, though i would've expected official updates to come sooner...
[Galaxy S II General] Litago:
And then you have the people like me. I want it to look good, and be a beast.

Not that i am a "ricer", but i love the ICS. When i find out how to remove the things i dont want, i will be good to go. Like Google maps and such.

But i digress.. I think the most of us want something that looks good, and is stable?
[Galaxy S II General] mega_bite:
Love it.

Just for the record I'm running stock ICS with root, Just added 15 button, battery % and traingle away.

I get 99% stable, odd lockup like google play not working, but un-updating fixed. well happy.

I get through a day with pretty heavy use around 4~ hours games/net/facebook/music/books. I've got a second battery which fits in nicley into my wallet for the heavy night out.

I had some issues with non-stock gingerbread custom, so I'd rather use stock and just change the things I feel are imporant, I'm happy with tousch wiz, just use app sorter to alphebetise.

I've also got to say thanks to xda, over the past 5 years I've had apps, tweeeks, roms and unbricks. love xda.
[Galaxy S II General] citytrader:
Is a failure

I have installed Wanamlite ICS 10.7 and I could confirm that ICS is a complete failure like IOS 5.1 in Apple.

Returning from ICS to GB now is an upgrade, ICS does not work,

Wifi is slow, the touch screen unresponsive, the applications are slow, etc, etc,

and I use Nemus launcher and it does not work under ICS, so slow.

Could anyone explain to me why people call ICS upgrade when currently is a downgrade?...

I have uninstalled ICS and returned to GB, no plans to return to ICS anymore, GB is much faster, much responsive and the programs works much better.

For the battery side, both have more and less the same utilization, 1 hour of internet radio, 15%-16% of battery on both ICS and GB
[Galaxy S II General] blue265:
For me, ICS is a failure for sammy because now I have no intention of upgrading my phone anytime soon. And I was seriously eyeing the SGS3. I love this device more now than I did last May when I first got it. LOL.

No seriously, the beta Roms were a disaster with a plethora of bugs and it did scare me from ICS for a while. But since LP4, I am really loving it.
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
ICS has better usability of the UI for notifications, for app management, it's more polished visually, supports hardware much better on our phones, has data usage control which I find is really nice to have... I personally have had issues with Wanam's ROMs and they were never stable on my phone. Cyanogenmod9 though runs perfectly, I haven't come across one app that doesn't work as it should.

ICS hasn't been around for long, Gingerbread has... So obviously Gingerbread has less overall issues. Having moved to ICS though, I don't think I'd be able to go back to Gingerbread.
[Galaxy S II General] citytrader:
For my personal use, ICS has nothing that I dont have in GB, for notifications I have WP7 Notifications plus and its ok for me.

For app management I have found no changes even worse, I dont like the task manager in ICS, yes is graphically but I like something more easy to do, so GB implementation for me is better.

Maybe need time for implementation, but I dont see an advantage of hardware asceleration compared to GB that seems much faster and the LCD much responsive...

Something is true, GB is polished and ICS needs time, at the moment I will wait because I dont see a real advantage of ICS over GB, even worse, I see only dissadvantages.
[Galaxy S II General] supranos:
ICS is Amazing!!

But people need more updates more features more performance .. so we need developers to improve this OS.
[Galaxy S II General] JJEgan:
100% agree and i have tested every ICS rom and kernel and theme and so far find no improvement on my current GB build . Not even finding it more faster or more responsive .

jje
[Galaxy S II General] kachrukamble:
Actually we expected revolutionary makeover with ICS.

Now with ICS we have some nice feature regarding hardware, software and apps.

But I still think ICS is half done job by google..

Google missed the opportunity. They could have but they coldn't..
[Galaxy S II General] B3311:
Speaking as a people, stop generalizing.

ICS is improving daily. This people wants smoother scrolling, less of that horrid blue colour and some kind of replacement for android's ugliest dialer ever. The screen monstrosity if one has no photo and just an avatar makes my teeth ache.
[Galaxy S II General] NouveauBox:
ICS is miles and miles better than the 2.33 that came with my SII, and of course getting rid of Touchwiz is a plus :)
[Galaxy S II General] zO-Om:
KK2 2.3.6 + Go launcher Ex + ICS theme, now tell me the difference
[Galaxy S II General] J34:
You guys... Don't blame Google for the "bad" ICS on SGS2. Blame Samsung for delivering an awful ICS for it.

Go try the REAL and awesome ICS on the Galaxy Nexus. Then and ONLY then, you can judge ICS.

I have tried all of the latest operating systems: iOS, WP7.5, MeeGo, Symbian, previous versions of Androids. Nope, ICS is still the best in my opinion.