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[HTC One X] GriffinSauce:
Why not make a protector with a hole for the actual lens/sensor?

The glass on the outside is considerably larger than what the camera actually looks through. So combining your idea's of a case with a lip around the lens and a stick-on protector ... just make a stick on ring with a hole in it.

The vunerable part is the edge of the glass, why this is higher than the metal edge is beyond me, it's just waiting to crack (mine already has some very small cracks/scratches). If they just made that a half mm higher there would be no problem at all.
[HTC One X] Reckless187:
It would be great if someone with access to engineering machinery such as CNC, milling machines etc, could make a sort of raised ring cover to fit over the actual camera lens surround and leave the actual glass and flash uncovered.

My friend used to work at a University that had access to a Rapid Prototyping machine that could make 3D models of practically anything, from a ceramic type material. If he was still there I could have asked him to knock something up. :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_prototyping
[HTC One X] kruegz:
Martin Fields

G'day All,

Just reporting in to say that after applying the lens protector that came with the Martin Fields screen protector, I can see no discernible difference between the couple of quick photos I've taken. Zoomed in and can't see any "artifacts" or blurs etc...

I'll try and upload some pics later. What do you suggest I use to test? Whiteboard? The sky?
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Objects with lots of very fine detail, properly focused and with the camera held steady to prevent motion blur. (Lawns, hedges, trees, in particular pine trees against sky would be good. Anything with very rich, dense, fine detail.) This is where you'll find reduced detail.

Harsh sunlight at different angles to the lens to look for lens flare (this is where you'll likely see increased lens flare, reduced contrast, etc.

Taking pictures of whiteboards or the sky will tell you next to nothing, as all that will show is if the white balance system can't correct for any color change, and whether it causes vignetting (which is unlikely).

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It would be even better if HTC had made a deeper lens bezel in the first place. Just 1-2 millimeters would've done it. :-(
[HTC One X] dawnfighter:
lense protector applied.. any comment?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tszcjd65qrx7dk/IMAG0196.jpg
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Yep. There is almost no pure black anywhere in that image; even the very deepest shadows have a luminance of around 6% when they should be pure black. That's the reduced contrast I was talking about. The whole image feels "milky" as a result. Detail still looks fairly good, but we don't have a side by side comparison; I'm confident it would be even better without the lens protector.

Again, that may be a tradeoff you're willing to make for a microscopic degree of extra protection; I'm not.

Nice choice of pack, btw. ;-)
[HTC One X] :
I imagine there would be. Not what I said though is it.

;)
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
No, it's not what you said. You claimed the exact opposite to be the case (emphasis mine):

That is, if you'll pardon my bluntness, utter codswallop, as you yourself now apparently admit.

There's a reason that SLR lens elements and many SLR filters are made from optical glass or even more expensive alternatives such as low-dispersion / fluorite glass, use complex and proprietary combinations of vapor-deposited coatings, and even use complex, hard-to-manufacturer multilayered lens elements such as in Canon's 'DO'-baged lenses:

http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/Lens_Advantage_Perf

A relatively simple piece of plastic with glue on one side, applied by the end user to a piece of glass themselves, is not even remotely comparable to SLR optics, but that's a comparison you erroneously tried to draw.
[HTC One X] ky3bmu4:
My solution is matte film (Oracal 641) and piece of film for iPad on glass.

Image042 is just view of how it looks

33 - without film on camera glass

39,40 -with film
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Those can't in any way be compared, because they've been vastly downsized from the native 7.9 megapixels to 2.3 megapixels or less. That's going to hide the most important thing; while I'd expect a loss of detail from the filter, I wouldn't expect a 71% loss of detail. ;-)

They've also all been edited in some manner, because the EXIF info has been stripped and they are all different sizes. That said, if I *assume* that the only editing was cropping, and that they were shot in the same conditions, you can again see the loss of contrast. There's nowhere near pure black in either of the after pictures, but there is close to pure black in the before picture. (The red channel in particular seems to bottom out at around 7% brightness.)

I'm curious, is that a sticker or have you painted your lens bezel? Red looks pretty cool on the white phone, not that I'd do it to mine because I'd be bound to **** it up somehow.
[HTC One X] ky3bmu4:
Yeah I guess when uploading, photos could be compressed or something. The only one I changed is the View of camera -Cropped my ugly finger with agnail and bath curtain))

Unfortunately I couldn't take 2 identical photos, but there is huge possibility that i will reapply the film and I will try to take two similliar pictures without it and with it.

The red is reappliable film named Oracal 641 (red matte) which is really pretty cool, but it is impossible to cut with scissors or smth. You need plotter for precise cutting.
[HTC One X] theliquid:
Here the addendum to my solution (original HTC screen protector cut out).

This is a cut out of the screen protector as a 1cm circle

http://img.cdev.at/2012-04-29_23.42.38.jpg

This picture shows the cut out applied on the camera lens.

http://img.cdev.at/sam_3561.jpg - take a close look its barely visible ...
[HTC One X] kruegz:
OK, following up on this... BIG difference with shots taken at night. In medium-light levels the room looks like it was full of smoke! :rolleyes:

Peeled the damn thing off and was back to normal. Not going to post pics as it is VERY apparent that there is quality degradation.

The case I have has a raised bevel around the camera, so I'm not so worried about it getting scratched from putting it down on.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
The red's awesome. Very distinctive look, if it doesn't peel too easily. You should offer to make them for other folks, make yourself a few bucks in the process.

For the photos, the really weird thing is that they're not even the same dimensions as each other. Hence I assumed you manually cropped them. I can't see why XDA upload would change the overall image size...

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Yeah, sorry, that sucks but at least you figured it out quickly, didn't take weeks of photos and then find them wrecked when you got back home.
[HTC One X] ky3bmu4:
Yeah that would be good, but unfortunately I am from Moscow, Russia, and sending this film somewhere would be really pain in the ass, and it is not that easy processs to apply it (can be screwed easily)...

Talking about pictures, I already said that I cropped only the view of camera bezzel with red film on it. Are the other three different size as well ?0.o
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Yep, all four pics have different dimensions. Odd.
[HTC One X] ky3bmu4:
Weird.

Ok, I uppload em as *.zip now at mediafire. At my PC they all have similliar 1840*3264 size

http://www.mediafire.com/?dhzrffg0ik6pip5
[HTC One X] forumhookersdotcom:
I bought two screen protector and applied one for screen and cut the other one and applied for lebs. Now it looks awesome.
[HTC One X] ruizit0:
what case did you have ? i just bought the htc clear hard shell
[HTC One X] xdp:
I don't understand why they design these to protrude from the back of the phone like this, they do realize people set their phones down on surfaces, right? The iPhone camera doesn't stick out at all and still has great quality.

I would like to know how many people end up going with some type of protector for the lens cover. It would be nice to not always have to find a soft surface to put my phone down on.
[HTC One X] Albert Poon:
I am still struggling to find any good protection here. Most iPhone protectors have the button area cut out already...
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Two words: complexity, and price. (They go hand-in-hand.)

In the HTC One X, the main (rear) camera is physically attached to the motherboard. On an iPhone 4s (and I would guess older iPhones as well), it's a separate item, attached by a lengthy ribbon cable to the motherboard. If you want the minimum complexity and the lowest cost, you go the route HTC took.

You also do so if you want the maximum image quality (as lengthy ribbon cables aren't good for signal to noise ratio), and if you want the thinnest possible phone body while retaining a single-board design (because the camera assembly is one of the thicker components, and attaching it to the main board means that all that bulk must be added to one side of the motherboard thickness.)

Now, that doesn't mean HTC couldn't have put a proper bezel that lifted the lens cover glass away from the surface you placed the phone on... I'd agree that's poor design.
[HTC One X] dawnfighter:
you can try looking for nillkin screen protector in ebay which come with the lense protector.. i already get mine but not apply it yet.. since my old cheap lense protector (which i cut it myself from some screen protector) still show good result on photo..
[HTC One X] xchasa:
You could always very carefully glue a black or even red fine rubber o ring the same diameter as lens? This would protect the lens and not degrade picture quality.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Just bear in mind that if you glue it, you probably won't be able to use the speaker dock, and depending on how thick the ring is, perhaps not with the car dock either.
[HTC One X] dawnfighter:
you will need a powerful glue..and some powerful glue always had chemical effect that might ruin plastic surface like the lense entirely..
[HTC One X] forumhookersdotcom:
Just use GadgetShieldZ skin. It comes with skin for entire phone.
[HTC One X] slind:
thats a fantastic idea, because it doesnt cover the camera lens. last time I checked that's what the title was about? :)
[HTC One X] treebill:
Buy a case like I did that lifts up around the camera only cost me £1.45 the lens never comes in contact with any thing.

http://goo.gl/rgAO5
[HTC One X] lostunsunghero:
Silicon gel cases bend and compress though, How much is the camera lens raised exactly by that particular case? Is it enough to keep the lens from touching a surface if for example i put a bit of weight on the phone like a wallet or something?
[HTC One X] wild_quinine:
Have been following this thread with interest.

Just ordered a One X, and do not like scratches on glass!

I've considered cases with raised bevels, but I think that at this size it might finally be time to go caseless: this phone's big enough as it is. Plus, that won't protect from in-pocket scratches.

Anyway, I accept the point that quality degredation is noticeable with a screen protector. I've ordered a Martin Fields. If I remember in the excitement of a new phone, I'll post before and afters.

It may be that there's a difference I can notice, and it may be that this is acceptable to me anyway. But I suspect there's a few people who will be interested to see.

Despite my expectations, I could clearly see a difference in some of the before and afters posted so far. :eek:
[HTC One X] Hunt3r.j2:
The solution is for a very thin TPU case, with just enough material covering the body so you won't tear it in normal use, and then just a bit of buildup at the lens to provide some standoff, and then have it protrude from the screen to provide standoff there to keep the screen from contacting surfaces.

So far it looks like there's an issue with the case designs because they all end at the silvery bulge going up to the lens, which I don't get. Is there something about that area that can't be covered?
[HTC One X] n3ocort3x:
In my case the camera case lifts up the one x and additionally i cut myself a little camshield from a screen protector...
[HTC One X] BLAST3RR:
My first HOX had scratches on the camera lens merely 3 days after I got it, with 'normal' use. This was without cover.

Bought myself one of those back covers (gel), especially looking for one with a raised edge around the camera.

Now on my second HOX, securely fitted in one of those after 2 weeks of use (even on the beach), it still shows no signs of scratches. Seems to do it's job very well. :D

The only problem I have with it, is that my screen flexes on the side when I am trying to press the volup or voldown buttons. But this is my phone's fault. :rolleyes:

That, and it makes it twice as thick.
[HTC One X] maniacaus:
I've cut out a little piece of a screen protector and it hasn't degraded the image quality at all as far as i can tell. It might scratch a bit easier than the glass but i can always just cut out another one every couple of months if need be.
[HTC One X] wild_quinine:
As promised, I've taken some pictures with and without the screen protector on the camera lens for comparison.

It took a few days for my Martin Fields protector to arrive, so I did the thing where I cut a little circle out of a generic screen protector. As such, Ive done a comparison of all three camera lens covers: Generic Screen Protector, Martin Fields protector, and no screen protector at all.

As expected, there's a noticable superiority in the pictures with no screen protector. If you have a case that you can trust to resolve the issue, you'd probably be much better off not using a lens protector.

But I'm paranoid about scratching the lens, so I may stick with it... I guess I'll have to decide if the quality loss is worth the protection.

The Martin Fields protector doesn't look to my eye to be really any better than the generic one, it might be a little worse. So if you're thinking of doing this, you may as well get two screen protectors for a pound on ebay, and cut one of them up. The spare will be big enough you'll get several chances to get it right. :)

To be fair to Martin Fields, their screen protector that's actually on the front of my phone is *significantly* better than the generic one. Although probably not ten times better, so I probably won't justify that cost in future...

I'm not allowed to post outside links apparently, which is XDA's loss, because I had intended to post comparison shots, which are all on imageshack now... :rolleyes:
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
PM them, and I'll post for you, if you like.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
As promised, here's wild_quinine's link for him:
[HTC One X] wild_quinine:
Super, thanks for that Knoxploration.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
And a thanks to you for sharing your experience. :-)
[HTC One X] tandfeen:
I've tried it with zagg protector. Not a good idea.

I took a picture with and without it on. Zagg protects the phone very good but it can't be used as camera lens protector
[HTC One X] HaTeC:
I cut a round little circle out of screen protector and applied it to the lens.

Works perfect and picture quality is not affected ( if you send it to a lab the might find the difference, but who cares as long as it's not detectable outside lab tests )
[HTC One X] graemeg:
Screen protectors where too fiddly for a camera lens, i purchased a white leather htc flip case off Amazon for £15, original HTC one, its really nice with my white note, and the camera area is slightly raised, so theres no way the lens could possibly be scratched unless you deliberatley poked something in there or had it in a pocket with keys which i certainly wouldnt do.

Apart from that i think the lens in time like all camera phones is going to be subjected to wear and tear.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Your picture is broken, but I guarantee you it's detectable outside of lab tests (and other people's before-and-after demonstrations back it up, including people who initially claimed there was no difference). That, to me, is a waste: why buy a camera with a better-than-average camera, then make it only average with a lens protector?
[HTC One X] HaTeC:
What's broken about the image?

Looks crisp and nice to me, i am a hobby photographer.

If you are thinking about the blurry left side of the image, that is called depth of field.

I am happy, and i am not the one to be happy with crap.

It works fine.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
It's broken, as in, it doesn't load for anybody except you. I just get a "broken image" placeholder.
[HTC One X] HaTeC:
Oh god lol....

Too late to fix the links now and i can't be bothered to upload it somewhere else now.

Next time ;)

Trust me, the pictures are gorgeous

:p
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
I trust ya, I'm just saying they could be even more gorgeous. The difference may be subtle depending on the lighting conditions, but it's there.
[HTC One X] jaaystott:
I recomend putting your phone in a case. I don't think that there is much else you can do.
[HTC One X] plaktoets:
Before, I has a Desire and the lens cover got blurred after some months and even had a crack. It made pictures look horrible. Eventually I peeled out the entire cover.

The lens cover of the HOX is made out of the same ****ty plastic material. It will be inevitable that the same will to happen to my One X at some point, no matter how careful i'll be.

Like many have said, i believe its a design flaw (contrary to the awesomeness of everything about this device) and it´s a shame HTC didn't learn from their previous mistakes.

About the quality decrease - I think the only way to tell for sure if there will be a noticable difference in picture quality is by actually looking around through the screenprotector that you´re planning to apply, with one eye. Is the view as bright and clear as with the naked eye? If it does, then you should be good.

That being said, did anyone actually compare the quality of videos that were shot with and without a screen protector? To me personally this is of much more importance (if i need to take high quality photos i will use my DSLR anyway) since i'm constantly shooting videos of my 3 year old, and the video's full HD quality is really stunning.
[HTC One X] Vitucastro:
Was thinking on this!

http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/cell-phone-lenses/

Not sure if the ring fits!
[HTC One X] hamdir:
don't know if anyone posted this, Rock is selling One X screen protector that comes with a camera lens protector included, my friend showed it to me at his store today
[HTC One X] ricksonchow:
Yes, I just got one as well and I got some pics for that

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26597176&postcount=702

In my opinion, I think the protection is adequate for the camera, without losing any camera quality should be a good solution. ;)
[HTC One X] steveman29:
Where did you buy this tool? Could you post the link?
[HTC One X] theDroidfanatic:
I have one. It doesnt let the camera touch.

I put that skullcandy sticker myself ;)

The area around the canera curves upwards, for more protection ;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] draga277:
Hi guys,

Someone can tell how to unroot from motofail root in 2.3.6 stock rom??

I'd like to update to ICS via OTA when moto begin roll out, and i'm not sure this will be possible with root.

Do you know something??

Tnx
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
You'll need to provide more information before any one will be able to help. You may also want to check to see if there's a dedicated forum for your device.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] draga277:
Thanks for the tips...

I have a GSM Motorola Razr with 4.0.3 based rom, with also root and cwm recovery

When official update from Motorola will be released, I'd like to update via OTA from 2.3.6 stock rom with root (I've a nand backup obtained with cwn recovery).

Do you think root on 2.3.6 could deny the OTA update.

I hope I was clear about the problem
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] draga277:
I saw that root doesn't affect possibility to update via OTA from stock rom.

Is it true or not?

Someone can confirm, please? :confused:

Tnx
[HTC One X] OysterCatcheRR:
Which is bizarre as I have a fantastic laptop here that can do a lot more than the One X will, but it just doesn't cut it atm :(
[HTC One X] brent8577:
i'm not really sure how this adds to the general section. it seems more like a Twitter post to me.
[HTC One X] Reckless187:
These last few weeks seem to be dragging on and on and on...feels like months!
[HTC One X] dannysmith43:
I feel your pain...5th will come and go...then my preorder will arrive on 11th :(
[HTC One X] miniterror:
you should feel youreself one day before delivery^^
[HTC One X] barondebxl:
LMFAO !!!!!
[Acer Iconia A500] BBAHunter:
Currently, I'm running the OTA 3.2 and think its going to be better for me to run flexreapers rom instead of wait for the OTA ICS (when ever that happens).

That being said, I only have one reason I am swaying to the rom: Has root so I can install the wps supplicant and get AdHoc wifi connections working again. (So I can connect to my cell phone wifi).

So I spent the last two days trying to reason out how to install it. I've searched about everything and think I need to go back to an earlier version of 3.x so I can get root again, but that's where I am lost...everything seems to require root to do that. I was going to do the 3.2 rom that has root but all the links for it are dead.

Can someone point me to a way to work thorugh this?
[Acer Iconia A500] golfgirl606:
All of the information you need can be found with very little effort by using the search function. You may want to start here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
Here's another one that was pretty easy to find on Pg 2 Q&A Forum;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1307539

Deposit files, and filejungle links work.
[Acer Iconia A500] BBAHunter:
Thanks for trying (I think) I went through that thread already, it does not work. The first step says 'Ensure your device is rooted' Hence my question.
[Acer Iconia A500] BBAHunter:
I was shooting for the file in post 137 in that thread yesterday, the file is not there. I did download the earlier file but it doesn't work (issues are described some posts later).
[Acer Iconia A500] bfranklin1986:
Use method 2, downgrade, install iconia root to give you root, install cwr, flash what you want. What doesn't work?
[HTC One X] myself11:
Which MHL cable are you going to buy? Which do you recomend from previous experiences? Is it worth it one with an adaptor?
[HTC One X] flakz0r:
I saw somewhere that a regular MHL cable from dealextreme works, i already have my old one i bought for the Galaxy Nexus - it was originally for the GSII - should be fine, i hope. :)
[HTC One X] bimmerboii:
Any generic mhl cable will do. Got mine on ebay for $5
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] ahmadsafar:
This ROM was made with UI tweaks, overclock features, and some tweaks to improve performance. :)

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[Samsung Galaxy Mini] ahmadsafar:
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[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Sh0m1:
Downloading now :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] ahninz:
Can 2.1 use s2e and move all apps including data to sd-ext?
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] droidface:
Yeah same question

Or can it uses amarulz?

Sent from my GT-S5570
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] D-dy:
No. U will got bootloop. I has try it :(

I think, it will work with s2e or a2sd ;)

@Safar, how i get indonesia language for this rom ? Please make a zip flash :)

+add 9 lock screen n transparant status bar :D