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[EVO 4G General] htc-ppc:
Sprint had issues with WiMAX as it was on a frequency that caused it to be weak and were going off what Clearwire did. This was just because they were trying to be first in the 4G game.

This is entirely different. This LTE network will be Sprint's permanent 4G network and will reach many more places that WiMAX never reached as it was just a waste of money to continue once they decided to start building an LTE network. They have learned from the mistakes of the 2.5-2.7 GHz band they were running WiMAX on and it's difficulty in penetrating into buildings.

There is absolutely no reason to worry that Sprint's LTE network will be anything less than Verizon's overpriced and limited LTE network. This will not be abandoned and to tell the truth it was a good thing that Sprint abandoned WiMAX in favor of something that works better.

Also don't forget that Sprint already has the intention of having all LTE areas upgradable to LTE-Advanced and there was that video that showed download speeds of 45 Mbps. Once Sprint gets rid of iDEN and WiMAX then concentrates on LTE/LTE-A all of your worries will be gone.

---------- Post added at 09:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------

Okay, a little unnecessary Sprint bashing at the end, but to correct you, Sprint will be using the 1900 MHz band for LTE. Both AT&T and Verizon use the 700 MHz band, but still cannot use each others so whatever band Sprint uses is irrelevant. Sprint currently has iDEN for nextel and boost on the 800 MHz band and will need to end those first before using it for LTE.

Also, Verizon's LTE is still very spotty Coverage Map so no reason for them to be so proud as they still have a ways to go.
[EVO 4G General] Sleestax:
The non-removable battery is really a deal breaker for me. It's not like having a battery cover is going to ruin the wonderful looks of this phone. It's clearly just a money-grab to force obsolescence given the life span of your average lithium ion based battery.
[EVO 4G General] htc-ppc:
This thread isn't about a phone and the EVO 4G has a removable battery. Anyway, I have the battery from my HTC Touch Pro 2 still working in my EVO. In fact you can pop in the battery on my previous phones and they work. All of my batteries have outlasted my use of the phone. If it doesn't, the battery can still be replaced at a repair location and will likely be covered under phone protection.

Can it be a downside? Yes. But all phones are heading to non-removable batteries so not much we can do about it.
[EVO 4G General] Sleestax:
Whoops, thought I was in the Evo One thread.
[EVO 4G General] crazzysandman:
That is a good explanation, though im just going to move networks until I see sprint is done with the changes. I heard that it was going to be about a 2 year wait to see other cities with LTE, and my contract ends May 1st so I doubt i will even get to see the new phones roll out...
[EVO 4G General] iiDeadSeriousii:
This thread may have just pushed me to AT&T or Verizon with this explanation. I have speed tested my Evo's Wimax next to a friend's Galaxy Nexus 3G (that's the important part here) and he still beat me on Verizon's 3G. Our Wimax is pathetically behind. Two years ago in June Sprint convinced me to buy the Evo 4G and while this phone will always have a special place in my heart (I still use that same one I bought) it's time for me to look beyond Sprint for a more reliable network. I've never had a problem with service coverage, it's just the embarassingly slow network speeds are unbearable. I can't wait forever to EVENTUALLY be covered by this LTE (at which point there will be a newer phone that will make this phone seem ancient)...

As far as unlimited data goes I use my data EXTENSIVELY and after going through my Sprint bills for the past couple of months, I BARELY hit 2GB's in 3 of the past 12 months...I use wifi a lot because of the aforementioned slow speeds and am starting to realize that the reason Sprint's the only truly unlimited data provider is because nobody can stomach waiting 5 minutes for a 3 minute youtube clip. And after checking with AT&T and Verizon and price comparing their plans, I'm actually paying in the middle of AT&T and Verizon. I pay a little less for AT&T and a little more for Verizon with 3GB and 4GB's of data respectively...that's not bad especially since I rarely hit 2GB's like I mentioned. There were a few things that were holding me back from leaving Sprint:

This Evo 4G LTE (I love the look of this model compared to AT&T's)

Loyalty (Kinda waning on that since I've been burned by em before i.e. Wimax)

Price/Data packages (Again, not as great as I used to think)

I thought I could roam on Verizon's LTE...but you just told me I couldn't.

There's not much to convince me to stay with Sprint anymore. And after almost 9 years with em (since the Nextel days)...I'm going to have to part with Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
...the more people that buy at launch or preorder, the more money sprint has to expand. Think of it in socialist terms. Give and get.

(And to clarify, I mean socialist as a compliment, as it's the superior national political philosophy)
[EVO 4G General] youngcise31:
Not completly sold on this New Evo

I loved my Evo 4g and have been waiting patiently. Although im not completely sold on the new Evo. Not happy that it is not a quadcore and also upset that they didnt bump up the megapixels.
[EVO 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
The new Evo is nice but I expect the gs3 to blow it out the water. I like senses new camera though. Reminds me of camerafx...which I own.
[EVO 4G General] tailsthecat3:
I'm not expecting sprint lte at my home anytime soon. Verizon and att lte is available within my walls. Has anyone checked stocks lately? Few weeks ago I checked on a Friday. Sprint was at $2.47 per and vzw at $38.xx. Not good.

I'll eat etf's for devices I want or good service, I don't care. But nothing more than curiosity has kept me using sprint. Slow 3g, no Wimax at the homestead...I'm literally on the edge of my seat, waiting to see what they accomplish and by what time/date. Especially in my neck of the woods. I'm on the south shore in Massachusetts, for reference. I'm definitely not in the country. Highly populated area that Verizon flourishes in. Every day I almost snap and switch to Verizon.

So, no, I don't trust Sprint to get me lte access. That I don't have to drive into, anyway.
[EVO 4G General] htc-ppc:
PEACE!! I get an average of 9Mbps on WiMAX in my area which definitely beats any 3G and there is no way I'm paying more for AT&T's non-existant LTE network or Verizon's limited 4G. My laptop needs to be able to download large files without worrying about hitting a limit. I can hit 4GB in one day if I download a movie on the road. I've never regretted getting the EVO 4G. And when it comes to support on this site I'm in heaven. I can wait until the late 2012/early 2013 for LTE especially if 45 Mbps speeds are still available, but doubt it once everyone is on it. LTE-A might make me drop my home ISP. Sorry if I don't feel sympathetic to your rant about leaving. BYE!!!
[EVO 4G General] insanity213:
Haha.. Trust and Sprint in the same sentence? I bailed out on them a while ago and couldn't be happier. Was looking for a ROM for my WiFi only Evo when I saw this thread. Run for the hills! Get out while you can. If they do as poorly with this 4G 2.0 rollout of theirs as they did the 1st time around, they'll be bankrupt before they reclaim that iDen spectrum. They're damn near broke and spending like hell trying to get their network up to speed. Yeah, the other carriers cost more, but ya get what ya pay for.
[EVO 4G General] .Elite_The_King.:
Yeah I dont even know why are you talking about at&t doesn't even have LTE yet
[EVO 4G General] htc-ppc:
Would anyone really prefer that Sprint continued pushing the crappy WiMAX instead of switching to LTE? I don't think so. How's AT&T going with LTE? I think Sprint's current LTE testing area is larger. I'd have to drive out of state to find AT&T LTE. In fact it was AT&T that made me run for the hills and many followed.

Sprint seemed to always have it in their mind that WiMAX was only temporary. It has been out since the early Sprint 4G days that they were looking to change over to LTE. Why would they keep wasting money on it when what you really want is LTE. Verizon's LTE coverage is the biggest and it still has big holes. The Sprint LTE rollout hasn't even started and everyone's pissed intead of excited like they should be.

This isn't WiMAX people. This is better. Stop whining about it. Everyone is finally going to get good LTE 4G coverage and now they want to leave? Doesn't make sense.
[EVO 4G General] ReapersDeath:
I bet the LTE will have an internal battery issue at some point and the lack of sd card and lack of battery removal, will be annoying. Then when your phone breaks Sprint will screw you about it =/ and i might go galaxy s 2 epic.
[EVO 4G General] .Elite_The_King.:
Nice said. Also Sprint said if clear, forward with the build up Of the TD-LTE will able to hit target speeds of 100mbps
[EVO 4G General] Albaholic:
I get weak coverage in my area, on top of that, my workplace (ironically right across the street from a sprint store) gets almost no 3g coverage. I'm hoping the LTE rollout changes that.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
I am a loyal Sprint customer, this isn't about picking sides but practical advantages and money.

We can all agree Wimax was a bust and thank God Sprint decided to abandon it. I have very spotty Wimax (when I'm on a rom with 4G) , its simply not reliable and the battery drain is too much.

The difference in price between Sprint and Verizon is not that much, and I also hardly use more than 2GB/month. The news about LTE-advanced is great, but its ~2 years away, Sprint won't even have any LTE other than 6 initial markets for most of 2012. Meanwhile, I have Verizon LTE in my area and my friends Nexus can get 15Mbps. And Sprint's 3G speeds have definitely gone down over the last 2 years.

It's a little strange for a company to announce LTE devices with no coverage. I'm probably going to give Sprint a 2nd chance, they are a good company who've tried to be fair to their customers (SERO was amazing!) unlike the arrogance of Verizon and the pure evil that's AT&T.

I'm not happy Dan Hesse decided to waste ~$20b on the crappy iPhone which hasn't really helped Sprint, that money could easily be the difference.
[EVO 4G General] Jeff_in_LA:
http://m.afterdawn.com/article.cfm/2012/04/04/sprint_confirms_4g_lte_will_be_unlimited

Sprint confirms LTE will be unlimited.
[EVO 4G General] Sleestax:
Which is why I'll be sticking with Sprint, I just don't believe their roll-out plan will stay on schedule. They could meet the letter of their announcements by just installing one of the new network vision devices in a couple of towers in each city rather than really providing broad metro-area wide coverage. Given that I live in a suburb pretty far north of Atlanta, generic "Atlanta will see LTE roll out in the middle of 2012" doesn't mean much. Show me the coverage map.

When I can use LTE at work, home and the entire way on my commute between the two, then I will give up my Evo OG for an LTE device.
[EVO 4G General] Das Disco:
I usually had good wimax coverage but i live in the city. The demand for the LTE coverage will be great here so it shouldnt be an issue :D
[EVO 4G General] sdialect31:
What I trust is that Sprint will deliver on LTE deployment at the absolute tail end of a constantly redefined time-frame (that has yet to really be clear) and that will be kept as vague as possible throughout the entire process.

We have a lot of "by the end of" statements along with "you could get it sooner"...hockey-puck. Most of us will stay with Sprint because of the price and service levels still make the rest look like a bad choice on any day in this economy and Sprint knows they're affordable enough to to leave certain customer care oversights as they are.

I hope Sprint also knows despite their extreme affordability, their customer base will hemorrhage dramatically if they do not properly close the gap between the offering of LTE devices and actual availability of LTE service.

Offer whatever excuses and stories you may like but, other carriers have consistently done a better job of updating similar handsets, offering new devices, indies devs have delivered highly functionally if not completely functional mods weeks and months ahead of Sprint.

So again I say the strength of Sprint has been greatly based upon affordability and not on out performing the competition.
[EVO 4G General] HappyDuck13:
I live in a suburb of Atlanta and the maps for the lte towers look pretty darn impressive. There are like around 150 to 200 towers with lte. Also the towers are ready to go in most places, but sprint is currently blocking people from connecting to it probably due to some bugs or connection issues. I just hope lte has better building penetration than wimax.
[EVO 4G General] MarkEv0:
Once the iDen spectrum completely phases out the LTE will take over and will have better building penetration.
[EVO 4G General] Spanky':
I can't wait to get me evo lte but will always love my og and I think lte will deff take over at least for a little while
[EVO 4G General] IAMDEE7:
I would ride with Verizon. Sprint just doesn't cut it anymore.
[EVO 4G General] greywolf123:
The Evo LTE has an MicroSD slot FYI
[EVO 4G General] HD2FORNICK:
I simply cannot wait to kick Sprint in the nuts and move to somewhere else. Sprint's 4G service is pathetic compared to Verizon and who cares about unlimited data when that data comes at a snail's pace? I will be using my brother's Qualcom discount and go to Verizon. Sorry but Sprint just doesn't cut it anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] evil_penguin:
Hey guys,

This is an Groubal about our little Samsung budget devices not receiving ICS .

Please sign here to effect change .

http://www.groubal.com/unavailabili...various-samsung-android-devices-from-samsung/

hope we can do it.

Its by Mathew,so thanks to him.

Original thread- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1577888

guys what are you waiting for? Sign it and Share it please

it will take only 1 min ;)

Thanks ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] voetbalremco:
our gio wont get it, as the galaxy s and s plus dont even get it
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] evil_penguin:
why is xperia mini getting ics ?:cool:

samsung should also do the same, at least a value pack.
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] Mark-NL:
who needs Samsung when you have Maclaw & Team
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] evil_penguin:
samsung can make the job of maclaw easier .
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] Mark-NL:
I think he likes the challenge ;) heheh (but seriously, you've got a point)
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] SpaceCaker:
What if they give us instead of ics a valeu pack with tw4 then we are all happy :p

i am spacecaker

aint a grill :p
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] voetbalremco:
true, but that problably won't happen neither..

they think people that buy these phone don't care about android version//
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] droidxpert:
Hey...y can't we just try for it!!??

And it'll be very easy for Mclaw and team if Samsung releases its ICS sources of its camera and all...

So guys just give a try...u don't have to loose anything..just a minute...

C'mon guys..!!!

Ace,fit and mini forums already started to sign this ..never saw a single Geo name on that!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] 0M3G4_:
I signed it and everyone should do it too.

I like ICS for gio and respect a lot the work of GalaxyICS members, but official sources would help them a lot with their work.

So sign it. If you do, something may happen. If you don't sign, nothing will...
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] manpildo:
I signed it and it's a good cause, but I'm very skeptical over this. They are very slow to release updates even to their previous flagships.. S II just got its official update not long ago, S and S+ got nothing (some lame value pack started rolling in Korea though). I'm afraid our budget phones are not on the list and will not be, too much work for them.
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] droidxpert:
Guys share it everywhere u can.....
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] WietsedeVries:
I have signed it too. I don't think it will help, but you can always try!
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] droidxpert:
Hey...every other phone's forum is responding well to this...but you Geo guys are not responding..this pettition is for you...!!!please help to make it a success
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] evil_penguin:
+1000

guys sign it and share it:D
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] droidxpert:
Crossed 1000 signatures....please sign it and share it..
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] DjHydrant:
I think Samsung won't do it. But it would be nice if they would publish some sources since they don't want to support our device.

Wysłane z mojego GT-S5660 za pomocą Tapatalk
[Atrix 4G General] hechoen:
Hey Guys

I'll try to keep the story short. This is my girls phone. A few days ago she gave it a bath in some Earl Grey tea. She noticed this after she got to work and realized her travel mug was open in her purse. She pulled the battery and called me. I picked up the phone a few hours later and gave it another bath. This time in rice for 36 hours. Put the battery back in and fired it up. Nothing. I took the phone apart and used electrical cleaner on all of the components. Back to another rice bath. Put the phone back together and booted up. Green light comes on and it stalls on the start screen. After a minute:

"Modem did not power up (0)

Starting RSD protocol support"

A quick trip to your forum and some searching led me to believe it was indeed a hardware issue. Just because I had some time to kill I used this guide to unlock the bootloaders, root and install CWM.

Tenfar's recovery-en-goapk-0630-1029

Booted back up and still the same modem message. I was able to boot it using Boot Android(No BP). I can confirm now that the screen and all rockers work fine. It will stay booted for about 2 minutes before it reboots itself. I'm assuming because it's trying to talk to the modem and getting no response. Don't really feel like taking the time to logcat it because I'm getting rid of the phone. I called MOTO and they said they would replace the MOBO for 125 with tax.

Since I already got her an HTC Vivid we've decided to see if anyone here at XDA might want to buy the phone before I ebay it. Being a member I would much rather see it go to someone here that can use it. I would like to get about $100 for it. If you have any questions or want more info please send me a PM as I might not check here that often. Also if anyone can think of steps that I've missed to recover this I'm open to suggestions. Sorry if this was long winded I just wanted to give full disclosure.

Thanks
[Atrix 4G General] Bruce Lee:
Have you posted this on the market of XDA? You will do better selling it there.

Sent from my ATRIX using the Premium XDA App
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Yup!

Mods will likely tell you to do exactly that and close this thread.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
I know the ROM is still being tweaked, but what kind of work is left to be done before the themers can really tear into AOKP? (I'm kinda looking at some of the "higher ups" of the Inc2 community here......Knipp, Tylerlawhon, PacerguyDon)

I'm not really looking for a full theme at this point, but I've seen some for other devices and I think some color choices other than the ICS standard blue would be kickass.

Don't get me wrong....I'm not trying to be pushy or to rush the Devs and Themers of this glorious community....just ready for some bacon. Lulz.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
I love how out of the "higher ups" you chose me, someone who knows nothing about this lol. Although, I feel honored that I'm considered to be lumped on with this group by someone. Sorry I can't help with themes, like I said I know absolutely nothing about theming, but I'm sure some well come along.

Sent From My Mikrunny'd Superphone Using Magic (TapaTalk 2 Beta 5)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
I included you in the list because you talk to a couple of the devs fairly often and I've noticed you try and get your feet wet with some things.

Maybe I should have said "insiders" instead...? Anywho....guess its back to the waiting game ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Lol ok thanks. I guess that works haha.

Sent From My Mikrunny'd Superphone Using Magic (TapaTalk 2 Beta 5)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] andybones:
What are you looking for?

I've themed ICS before..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
First off let me apologize if I get some things wrong.....I don't know a lot about theming so some of my terminology could be wrong.

I don't really think I'm looking for a full theme as far as themed apps and custom animations....just color options as far as framework ( I think) goes. Like on AOKP you can change the clock and battery bar colors, but not the battery icon itself. Small things like this and maybe changing some colors on select icons. I know most of this could probably be done in either ZipThemer or MetaMorph, but these days I don't really get the time to sit down and commit to learning from scratch :(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
I know there are some themes from AOKP for the gnex, maybe someone could port them.

Sent From My Mikrunny'd Superphone Using Magic (TapaTalk 2 Beta 5)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] urhos:
Here are two wallpapers that look great with the ICS theme / aokp. Enjoy.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
There was the one I was running. But I found out it broke the phone app. That was the only bug...I could port it. But the guy said he would create a thread here.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
Hmm... Thanks for including me, but A themer I'm not. I've made boot animations, but that's about the extent of my building abilities.

Now, what I would like to have in an Aokp theme would be something like what I've got on my phone now using CM9 and Ics Reloaded...

I'm tired of the Ics Blue look, so went more for the monochrome look. Now just to dull out the icons :cool:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
I ran this them for a day before I found out it broke the phone app. Should just be as simple as unzipping the theme and putting our phone apk in there instead. Its a good theme.

If you run this please don't post in that thread as our device isn't supported. He is working on the issues already to support our phone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1550926

Dear Inc2 owners..

Read the op BEFORE you POST, or start a NEW THREAD about a topic that has already been discussed.

btw..

su

killall drmserver
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prenedo:
Cool. Thanks for the link knipp... Looks like a clean theme, although my eyes are starting to hate the color blue. Between this and my TFP all i see is ICS blue; I need some red or green :D Can't wait for CM9 theme engine to start working and some of our great devs to theme ICS roms...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
I wasn't trying to give anyone any titles they didn't want haha. Again, the people I named were just three that I've seen involved in almost all of the development threads, and you guys seem to know way more about our device's hardware than I do. Given this, I just figured you guys would be able to tell me more than the general public here on XDA could.

Pacerguy: Nice looking setup you've got there. I've been using ICS Reloaded alongside Apex launcher on Aero's CM9 ROM ever since you posted the link and recommended. Couldn't be happier with the amount of customization options it gives until we have a complete CM build.