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[HTC Rezound] zone23:
From my limited knowledge of how it works (based on the EVO3D) you pull the memory card out during a flash which corrupts the device (bricks it) and puts it in a hardware fault stage. They then use SSH to S-Off the device by reflashing the HBoot. Its something like that the EVO3D has a live cd that has all the tools included. Since I have Ubuntu in a virtual machine I'm hoping I will be able to use that. Like I said I have a limited understanding of how it works.

edit:

I suppose that HTC could possibly patch the hboot to not allow the connection or what ever commands they are using. Those commands may be necessary though for HTC to fix bricked devices.
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
yeah, i thought it was the same method.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
I don't think that is what they are doing.
[HTC Rezound] zone23:
Well I different method would be cool, but thats what I've read in the EVO3D thread.

Steps 12 & 13

12. Run the 2.17 RUU again, except this is where you will brick the phone (on purpose) -> It's best if you read Unknownforce's instructions for bricking.

13. Once the phone is in a bricked state, boot up into the Boot CD on your computer.

edit:

Actually right here is the method:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1547695

Purely speculation I honestly have no idea how they are doing it. You have a lot more knowledge about this stuff than I do so?
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
yeah but how would one remove the sd card. its blocked by the battery
[HTC Rezound] zone23:
When you plug the device into the USB port in Hboot it stays on. Try it.. you can just take the battery out. I have done it to remove PH98IMGs from the sdcard while in hboot.
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:


you don't remove the sd card sorry I can't say any details but there's something you do to switch it into a more unlocked mode and I don't even think any ruu's are flashed
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
lol i was going to try it. but i guess not now.

when will someone leak a how to guide!!!!! lulz
[HTC Rezound] zone23:
Ya your right they pull the power while flashing.. it has nothing to do with the memory card. I need to read all the words.

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I posted the link for one for the EVO3D but can't say thats how they are doing it. Just guessing.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
yeah i saw it. thank you.
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
No I'm saying our s-off method has nothing to do with pulling the power battery ect.. there's a method for switching into some kind of developer or factory mode and we dont even flash any ruu's, well that I know of
[HTC Rezound] scotty1223:
The EVO 3d thread is apples and oranges. It is a method to downgrade and has absolutely nothing watsoever to do with this radio s-off tool.
[HTC Rezound] zone23:
OK cool like I said purely speculation. Just though maybe they were doing it the same way.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Like I said that isnt what they are doing. I don't speculate. I know what is happening.
[HTC Rezound] zone23:
OK WOW guess I will just move along then..
[HTC Rezound] dalvear88:
I easily change mine like twice a day haha! 5 minutes? Not even! Takes like 1-2 min to change kernels on PC, but I totally get what your saying

_____________________________________

***HTC REZOUND***

Latest ICS Release

Bamf ICS 1.20

O.C. 1.70 MHz

$$$$*S-OFF*$$$$
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
definitely not for the faint of heart. I don't see myself doing this.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
It isn't that bad.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
So how, exactly, is it done? I prefer a step-by-step tutorial if you don't mind.;)
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
Not happening :p
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
Thanks for the info Con, I would have simply hit the "thanks" button but I'm limited to 8/day lol
[HTC Rezound] jdmba:
+1

I took care of it for you.
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
Thanks! :D lol
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
Is the main reason for not telling the fact there's a high chance, many of us will brick our device? Or is it the possibility HTC could eventually patch it?
[HTC Rezound] csong95:
I am just guessing you used FTP to connect with the htc rezound found the source of where the file is for s-on and turn it off correct or wrong
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
actually bricking the phone isn't an issue.
[HTC Rezound] csong95:
No there not a high chance to brick your HTC Rezound

the chance of you bricking is 1 out of 100 believe me i though i bricked my htc rezound but i was wrong there is no way that htc rezound could get brick at this moment
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
Either it can be patched or they haven't found an easy method yet

It also looks like they may be waiting for the ota
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
S-OFF feels goooood!:D
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Considering the method I don't think they are worried about HTC patching, I think its more the difficulty of the procedure itself.
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
Con just said in the discussion thread that it's actually not that difficult and takes about 5 minutes to do.
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
That's good he's waiting for the ota. Releasing the instructions now would be like shooting ourselves in the foot.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I don't wish anymore... I currently have it!!!
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Here ya go FELLAS!!!
[HTC Rezound] ericsignals:
I just checked...didn't work for me :confused:

guess the method is more than looking at a picture lol...

Was really hoping it would be like that ring movie.....except for the dying part ;)
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
That's awesome we have at least a couple now confirmed it's working. Really the best way to pass this information off is by PM. At least that way, HTC will be less likely to patch the way we're doing this. Especially, if we're passing this information off to people we know and not the entire xda community. Lol.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Even once the method is released, the exploit will never be posted so there's no obvious method to fix it.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
I was thinking the same thing. it would be a way to delay them from figuring out how it is done.
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
Why is everyone afraid of the exploite being patched? The inc had a way to s=off and root for froyo. They patched it but everyone just downgraded to froyo to root. How would this be any different?

Not trying to flame or anything. I'm just wondering.

Cheated on my sexy assistant with a HTC ReZound.
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
I guess this wouldn't be a problem since con247 has the mainver fix for us.

I actually find this humorous. Just for the fact, HTC hasn't a clue how we did this.
[HTC Rezound] scotty1223:
actually,it would be a prollem. todays phones are doing way more than a simple check of the misc image and android info text document. they are checking for signitures in the hboot,and radio,as well as in the software being flashed.

we definately want to protect this exploit as long as possible.

just ask anyone with an htcdev unlocked evo3d how badly hed like to be able to downgrade to fimrware containing the 1.40 hboot ;)

those guys have been fiting this downgrade battle for several months,and have only recently acieved it via a risky method of purposefully bricking the device,and using a tool designed for the sensation to "recover" it with the older hboot.

hopefully the method would work for us if it ever comes down to it,but hopefully they just dont patch the exploit. heres the evo3d downgrade method we have to use: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
Wow, ya I didn't realize this. Thanks. I'm sure we can keep this exploit from getting out. I already have some good contacts and I certainly trust them with the exploit.

Edit: Could this method be encrypted to prevent HTC from viewing the source code?
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
I don't think they can ever stop this method, don't burn me if I'm wrong but I'm 99 percent sure. So I don't think it really matters if they get ahold of the code
[HTC Rezound] csong95:
If we ever able to get the code s=off and flashing would be easy ...look at GeoHotz for Ex.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
that would be my thinking as well considering you have to short it out. Not sure how they would protect against that...
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
comment removed
[HTC Rezound] maniac2k:
Stop teasing! Spill the beans!
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Really? I don't think I scratched my main board, but who knows--maybe I did.
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
mines fine..
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Hmm weird, I didn't even use number 2 for the process. Also, I don't have any scratches, I just checked. What ROM are you running right now brad?
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
Bamf ics 2.0 lol why
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
yea there was a diff process at first.

i did both processes, and mines all good :), i made sure to be careful though, IM OCD lol
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Cause my SD card isn't being recognized and I'm trying to search for how to fix it. Also my internal memory only reads like 2GB, too. I'm also running BAMF ICS I don't remember which version though. Just a nand backup.
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
Part of being part of the beta team was to not give out any details of how the process was done...

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u need the GB vold.fstab..

you can pull this file from a downloaded GB ROM...

it's found in system/ect

u then flash this file on ur ICS ROM.

then you should be good to go.

this is because the eng hboot is made using the GB mounting points

and i assume u r on the leaked firmware..?
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
Um I'm pretty sure they just mentioned shorting it before I said anything about it, it was already said in the sensation forums so that's probably how they know that much of the process. I'm not giving any details to anyone who asks
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
u just said you used a paperclip.

that's giving details.

I already have s-off I don't really care..

but if we want them to release the product, we should follow what they ask of us..

just because in the sensation forums someone else said something,

I still think we should keep quite in the forums about the process, until they said it's alright.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Yes sir, well as far as I know since I never changed anything after achieving s-off. So I can pull that from any GB ROM?
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I agree with you andy.
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
I'm not trying to be a ****.

just don't want to be one of 4 ppl who ultimately get s-off for the rez.

the only reason I say something is because I was already yelled at just for saying that I hadn't gotten s-off yet.

if they see that we are saying that we used paperclips and what not I'm sure they will be upset..
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Yeah man seriously, Let's just edit all our posts that involve anything about the process.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
Exactly. I think they were pretty clear about what they expected from their testers. Heck, I wasn't one of the testers and I 100% completely understood that they expected 100% secrecy from their testers.

Pretty easy, don't ruin it for the rest of us please.
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
get the new firmware, i had the same problem

or just use the old firmware patch that's i used until i got home and upgraded
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I'm pretty sure I'm already on the new firmware. Andy sent me a patch to help fix it anyway though.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Y'all better hurry up and edit your posts. Your secrets are getting out. :)
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
Fixed all mine
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
I'll leave this here.

http://db.tt/l6tFcfmO

Cheated on my sexy assistant with a HTC ReZound.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Another fellow s-offer? Nice!
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
not using the paperclip method. we wanted to talk to the devs about our method but they kicked us out of the irc so fast. guessed they have it under control. so we just went at it our self's. beta testes will be needed soon once we get the program finished.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
huh? so there will be two different methods to do this then? i doubt they would post a method that involves tearing your device apart and or using a paperclip. xda wouldn't allow that to be posted because of liability.
[HTC Rezound] bradsinram:
Nice work good to see we have other thing in the making. Still working on that splash :D
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
idk what the current method is. but the talks above earlier sounded like you needed to short something.

i dont want to feed into the speculation so im not saying they did or not. im saying we didnt need to use any hardware mods to make this work.

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im going to work on this next for you. now that i can test it.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
ok but your talking about you have your own team of devs getting ready to beta test a separate s-off method. is this true? i just don't want to piss off the original devs to the point where we get no s-off at all. or am i misunderstanding what your saying?
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
I would love to help! I'm good with windows and Ubuntu.

Send me a PM if you need me.
[HTC Rezound] ericsignals:
I hope s off comes or the ota....my phones been acting funky since I flashed the leak....back on gb and it still doesn't seem quite right.
[HTC Rezound] silverxbv2:
Hook a local brotha up wolf. :D

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
I'd love to help also I just barely installed ubuntu on my computer so if you need me pm me
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
People need to stop "offering their services" to whoever is working on any form of S-OFF.

Just give it a rest people, let the people doing it, do it.
[HTC Rezound] silverxbv2:
Ok. I'll bite. Why?

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Hold on there,

I am offering help. Not begging for them to let me in to their dev circle. Their is a difference. Every forum I have been on where a member has some secret, members are busting down their door to get in. I am not one of those people. I am offering my honest help in the .01% chance they might need it.
[HTC Rezound] silverxbv2:
And synisterwolf DID say they want beta testers.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] anothen:
Two separate projects getting mixed together. One that is closed and one that sounds like testing may be needed soon.
[HTC Rezound] anothen:
Double post. Delete
[HTC Rezound] yojoe600:
This is starting to get interesting lol!
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Thanks. :)
[HTC Rezound] scotty1223:
i would prolly beta test as well,but id want a private explantion of how your tool works,and what its doing. nothing against you,sinisterwolf,but i dont really know anything about you. globatron and fuses were familiar to me prior to this,thus some willingness to test blindly. hope that didnt come out badly... im by no means calling you a hack or insinuating your tool wont work or is unsafe.
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
I'd love to beta test but shortening anything sounds high risk. Hopefully, these guys post a nice YouTube video for us.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
He's all good yo. He did a LOT of great things on the Droid incredible.

Edit: pm me if you want another tester sinisterwolf.
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
Heck, with that kind of reputation, hit me up too synisterwolf.
[HTC Rezound] jackpot08:
I'm willing to test too since tmrw I am sending my phone back to verizon and receiving a new one. And since they don't really care what you did to the phone.... I don't really care either
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
I'll test for you too synisterwolf if u still have a place for me
[HTC Rezound] tegtke:
I'd be glad to test also.
[HTC Rezound] jclendineng:
Hey what's the irc?
[HTC Rezound] AndroidGraphix:
I think it's for chatting with other members.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ray_Banci:
Anybody come up with some clever lines to say after a girl goes, "oh my god its so big!!" LOL

|Captivate|Galaxy Note LTE|Darth Maul, and music| http://www.last.fm/user/Ray_Banci?noredirect=1 |
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Casper34:
I work in a Mom and Pop auto shop, well we were looking something up on the office computer and my NOTE was sitting on the desk. In walks a vendor dropping off some parts, he looks at my phone and asks "is that a phone?". i said yes, he goes "thats a phone?" in a much higher pitched voice, and then i showed him.... ya its a phone, he goes "OH MY GOD! Thats a phone! put it up to your ear."..... guess you had to be there....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cgibsong002:
Wait til you see how small the penis! er.. pen is.. stylus.

What?

Yeah I've had many fun comments on both my phone and my beautiful white Sena pouch. My friends thought it hilarious to think of me living in a giant's world as I held the phone up to my ear. I've also had many try to steal my stylus to play draw something.. only to be quite disappointed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Android The Greek:
I heard that so many time this week lol. After they say its so big i ask if they want to play with it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] slowpc:
yep , the GF grabbed the stylus and was like ... "can I use to pla.... Oh , :( "

Was a smile moment there on my end.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] TinMan:
Actually had a gal see my Note, and come running over saying "yummy, I want one".

I loved that day...

so it wasn't a pick up line, rather a lack thereof. Now THAT'S a good wingman.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rscaramelo:
Is that a Note in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Reclaim:
People seem to be more excited about the Note. For whatever the reason, the Dell streak was lame and the Note is cool to people. haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] netnerd:
dell steak is a piece of garbage, heavy like a real brick! with 220 gram of fat!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Reclaim:
See what I mean?? haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Theoriginalgiga:
It may have been heavy but it was still awesome. First 5" phone in a world where 4.3" was considered too big. I've said it before and ill say it again, the streak was never meant for the consumer public, it was designed for the medical field and at the last moment they switched it to a consumer phone. The weight was from its sturdy design. I would have bought its successor if it had one and it came before the note.

Heck I still use my streak as a backup / home device
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Reclaim:
No joke. Ahead of its time. In fact, if it had a successor, I would choose it over the Note. Just sayin'
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Aerials:
If you don't use a case for either of those 2 devices, the Streak feels much better with its sturdiness. That's mostly due to the fact it's metal.

The Note does have a bit of that 'cheap feel' with its plastic, but if you use even just a TPU case, that basically nullifies that issue.

I feel that I have become a better 'smooth talker' from owning both those phones. My co-workers and close friends still continue to tease me in a joking way after I got the Note.

It continues to be an instant convo starter in the general public whenever I pull it out. There's basically no need to even try getting other people's attention.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tyler79durdan:
Comment "Its sooo big..." Reply "that's what she said" lol Classic yet nouveau riche...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SKyRocKeting727:
Woman: WOW :eek: that thing is Huge!

Man: If you think thats huge, wait til you see this....(unzips zipper)...

-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] truth77:
If a guy is with his girlfriend and says the phone is too big look at his girlfriend say I don't know is 5 inches to big lmfao! Then say to him if 5 inches is too big I think you have bigger problems than the size of the phone! I've had something in my pants bigger than 5 inches since I was 13 lmfao!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] da_ferreira:
STATEMENT: My God, that thing is HUGE!!!!

RESPONSE: Yes, I am overcompensating for my incredibly small morals...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JDrew:
The puns never end.. lol
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] king_of_zeero:
Hi I Had a 16 GB memory and it worked on 2.1.1 frimware on x10 mini pro but ofter that i update it to xmp 10 or other frimare from cm it wil not work after phon boot i test it worked in recovery mod and i can install zip from memory but after boot the phon cant detect it and says the sd memory is damaged !! i fomated it again but was not use full .

any body can help me

Excuse me for my bad english :mad:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Hyper_Sonic:
witch rom version do you use?

Stock or another Version?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] king_of_zeero:
stock

Hi when I used stoick rom 2,1 the memory is working good but with other rom like cm7 I have this problem thanks
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] niezam95:
Try flash nAa kernel n nAa rom
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] king_of_zeero:
after i root my u20i it cant read 16gb flash

Hi every body

when i flash my u20 with orginal rom my 16 memory work good but after it that i root it this will not work

i try both naa kernel and semc too but not worked
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] niezam95:
Before this i use stock rom and can use 16GB after i flash naa kernel n rom everything is work fine..:)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Lamner:
This is strange because I'm using a 16gb sd card without any issue with MiniCM7 and it has never been a problem with other custom ROMs
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] king_of_zeero:
please explain the steps for me

please explain the steps for me
[HTC Amaze 4G] jcllings:
How can I manipulate the key backlighting for the 4 keys just underneath the screen? I have a hard time with these because my old Nexus One had the keys arranged differently. Would help if I could see them in the dark. I seen the backlighting work but doesn't come on very frequently at all.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jcllings:
OK, so I can put my thumb over the screen side light sensor but this still takes a few seconds. Haven't found a app that is up to the task yet either.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rubyman94:
Theres an app called screen filter but that only turns them off. Hope that helps bro.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
you can try typing this into terminal emulator or something similar

su

echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/button-backlight/brightness

chmod 0333 /sys/class/leds/button-backlight/brightness
[HTC Amaze 4G] Bingley:
Does chmod 0333 prevent other apps (the system/kernel) from further changing file/levels? Using a different rom/phone but changing brightness keeps turning them on despite chmod 0333...any thoughts? I can't find the event trigger in logcat to trip a writeback of 0 :/
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Levered:
i have install FXP114 cyanogemod 9,when i want switch on wifi its cannot on.....

and write 'Turning on wifi......'.but i have installed wifix,and not solved:(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ginryu:
remember that fxp 114 it's still under development, you can try to do a wipe-factory reset and see if that helps.
[General Questions and Answers] severinb:
I am looking to create an app to print to network (Wi-Fi) printers with a generic print driver. Do all network printers us the same print commands for print or status?
[General Questions and Answers] Dark3n:
Not really, a bunch might use a common network printing protocoll, but in general it is pretty messy out there, alot of fragmentation.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tcunha87:
Well th question is already on the title. Cant download the app and get it to work.

Any tips?

Abrigado/thank you
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 4038153:
http://www.medscape.com/px/contactus ?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigoisking:
Unmount memory card and try to install it again you can remount afterwards.