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[HTC One X] atvxda:
I'm glad this thread was created, I'm currently with an international Sensation XE and am seriously ready to pull the trigger on the international One X for that 720p screen and 32 Gig's of internal but am currently waiting for confirmation before I shell out 6+ on a new toy with 2g data :(

I don't belive Boston, Ma is running 3g on 1900...
[HTC One X] joshnichols189:
It isn't :/
[HTC One X] ariochenigma:
I asked Tmo this question on Twitter and this is their responce:

T-Mobile USA ‏ @TMobileHelp Reply Retweet Favorited · Open

@mrjenigma As long as it has our bands 850 ; 900 ;1800 ;1900 ; UMTS: Band I (2100); UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100); UMTS: Band VIII (900) ^KN
[HTC One X] gwuhua1984:
This response is pretty much a no response. It is known that T-Mo has deployed 1900 UMTS in parts of US. T-Mobile also announced refarming their 1900 GSM to 1900 UMTS. In order to get a good answer, it's best to talk to a high level T-Mo customer serv/tech serv.
[HTC One X] ydizzle:
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I was confused with all the bands as well.

I live in Central Florida, so i doubt they have it here as well :/

Any rumors that the One X might come to Tmobile after the One S?
[HTC One X] gwuhua1984:
There was one rumor that the One X will come to T-Mo as the G4X. There hasn't been any recent news on the rumor tho. So continue keeping your fingers crossed.
[HTC One X] joshnichols189:
In short, no it will not get 3G or fake 4G on T-Mobile.

Unless you are one of the lucky few in California that has 1900mhz 3G/fake 4G.
[HTC One X] gdmlaz:
yeap i read about this in a couple of websites also......
[HTC One X] hello00:
I just spoke with one of their representatives they said they will be getting the One S..only TMo UK will get the One X
[HTC One X] panther_spawn:
The HTC One S will be Tmo US, The One X will be ATT and the One V will be Verizon. Sprint has planned release but nothing is in stone yet.
[HTC One X] ^Fs:
I think the LG Optimus 4x HD is supposed to be the TMobile G4x
[HTC One X] atvxda:
That is quite clear after inserting my T Mobile SIM into my wifes old and unlocked iPhone 3gs. I set it to 3g along with allowing roaming and there was no change in signal : (

I guess I will hold off until the refarming officially rolled out...

*Not sure if an unlocked AT&T version would work as HTC's site does list the One XL as using AWS bands 700 & 850, but then again I would be limited to 16 Gigs of internal whereas I'd much preferv32 Gigs (currently have a 32 Gig card in my XE).

Decisions, decisions...
[HTC One X] oakland73rd:
i live in the san fransico bay area so does that mean i would be able to use this phone
[HTC One X] joshnichols189:
T-Mobile needs AWS over 1700mhz as well as 2100mhz..
[HTC One X] atvxda:
That is exactly correct. I am defeated. I really want the 32 Gig version and would consider the US version, however not with Edge only data... I learned my lesson after importing the Desire HD to T Mo USA. I was really hoping to catch a 3g signal with the iPhone, that would've been my ticket but it is what it is.

As they say, "A phone is only as good as the network it is on."

Great thread, very helpful.
[HTC One X] joshnichols189:
All is not lost sir. I have read of people who use the international galaxy note on T-Mobile. They were able to talk T-Mobile into letting them pay for just talk and text and have a hot spot for data. Not the most elegant solution but not bad either!
[HTC One X] atvxda:
You're awesome, thanks for the feedback. :cool:

I'm still on the fence. I feel the hardware (both iterations) is amazing and I am such a huge fan of the Sense UI (from way back in the Windows Mobile days of Touch Flo). Keeping hope alive that the 1900 MHz frequency will be refarmed in the near future... I am a hopeless romantic when it comes to my tech, lol.
[HTC One X] gwuhua1984:
AT&T's Galaxy Note is working on T-Mo, with 3G/4G.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23522477&postcount=113
[HTC One X] joshnichols189:
I know, but I wasn't talking about the AT&T Note.
[HTC One X] DoomGaZer:
I apologize if I'm flaunting my ignorance, but what about an xda special updated/patched ROM or something to enable 1700/2100 on the One X? Didn't I hear about that happening with some other device lately? The Galaxy Note maybe?
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
That's impossible unless the hardware is capable of it, and if it was, why wouldn't HTC have enabled it? Much as I'd love to, I don't see this happening.
[HTC One X] oakland73rd:
SO will the phone work on TMobile U.S. because i really want this phone but if i cant use it the **** it
[HTC One X] y2kai:
So I just got off the phone with T mobile regular rep for Cali she did confirm that the band they use is HSPA+ 1900 UMTS

but here is the issue....

when I read Engadget article on One x vs One s it is saying that AWS radios is require, which I have no idea what that is or is it something that we can mod...........
[HTC One X] ge3kswag:
I am confused by what you said, I think the rep didn't know what you meant. T-Mobile AWS/HSPA+ is 1700/2100 and you need both bands on the phone for it to work. Phone with only 1900 will get only 2G aka Edge. However, with the refarming of the 1900mhz spectrum, getting ready for T-mobile LTE rollout, HSPA is being lite on the 1900mhz but only in certain areas right now and not in cali that I know of. My lady works for t-mobile and was told only the field techs and NOC know for sure. You can call T-Mobile and ask to talk to someone who works the switch and they might know, if they will transfer you.

If you wait for the S4 version, it comes with the AWS bands on the AT&T version, which means, 3G and hopefully 4G speeds. What a lot are hoping, like myself is that we can swap the radio/modem of the AT&T S4 One X with the international S4 One X, that way we get the international 32gig and built-in fm tuner.
[HTC One X] y2kai:
so her info she pull up said 1900 I triple check and she said yes........ this is confusing the hell out of me now.........
[HTC One X] atvxda:
The international One X operates 3g data using 1900 MHz frequency. T Mobile USA currently operates 2g at the 1900 MHz frequency. T Mobile is (in some areas-very limited for now) refarming the 1900 MHz frequncy for 3g and so if you are in that lucky area, you can certainly use an international One X with high speed data.

If you're like me, and T Mobile still uses the 1900 MHz frequency for 2g in your area, then you are stuck with 2g/Edge data on your One X.
[HTC One X] ge3kswag:
Remember 1900mhz spectrum is all over the place. On t-mobile it's only 2g tho. They just started refarmming the 1900mhz spectrum to use 3G but it's very random. I think mostly northwest and back east. So the rep could have been right, 1900mhz is available but just not to handle 3G.
[HTC One X] y2kai:
So your saying HSPA+ 1900 UMTS may not be 3G. right?
[HTC One X] joshnichols189:
Definitive answer. In ALL PLACES where the 1900mhz spectrum on T-Mobile is used as 2G then that is all you will get. This specific version will NEVER work on 1700/2100 AWS. In the few places namely west coast and I have heard Utah that T-Mobile uses the 1900mhz spectrum for 3G, you will get 3G. If you aren't in one of those places, you will NOT get 3G.

The AT&T Galaxy Note is, in terms of SoC, the same phone as the Skyrocket and T-Mobile SGSII. This is why a T-Mobile radio can be flashed onto those phones and they can work on T-Mobile.

Also take into consideration, those phones ALREADY support the 1700 band, it was just deactivated by default. This phone does not support the 1700 band.
[HTC One X] segfault82:
i currently use a sensation on tmobile but am seriously considering getting an unlocked one x and switching to at&t. i'm not on a contract so it would be no problem for me, but i'm still kind of hesitant to make the switch. what do you guys think?
[HTC One X] bipoler:
LMAO its yOUR $ your life. DO what you want smh jeexz
[HTC One X] segfault82:
i was simply trying to see if anyone else here has made the switch from tmobile to at&t and how their experience was - not interested in your bs
[HTC One X] bfspider:
It would be an upgrade (screen, cpu, etc..). However, not a huge upgrade. So, that would be up to you. Also depends on the quality and how much you're paying with at&t vs tmo in your area. If you can get the same monthly payments and the quality of service is the same, then, make the change!
[HTC One X] mbomberz1:
Is there any way to tell where in CA, with any certainty that the 1900 band has been refarmed to 3G? I live in the bay area and mostly stay in that area. Tired of waiting on T-mobile USA to get a real phone and want to just order the international HTC One X. I despise ATT and would really hate to get a 16gig version.

Is there any estimate on how fast the refarming is going to spread? Will this phone be obsolete before its usable in a much larger area than the supposed refarmed 1900 3g?

I like my Tmobile service currently (still on unlimited 3g), have never been in contract with them. Still using my Nexus One I bought from google. Really itching for an upgrade now as my power button finally died and the volume rocker app just isnt doing it for me.

Thanks guys
[HTC One X] gwuhua1984:
I think there were confirmations that people were able to access 3G network via 1900 mhz spectrum in the bay area. I think I found the confirmation from a couple users on howardsforum a couple months back. See if you have any friends in the area that has an unlocked phone from AT&T and put your T-Mo SIM card in to see if they work.
[HTC One X] ge3kswag:
The refarm for CA has only hit the northern Cali area. My ex works for T-Mobile on the switch. We aren't going to see any of it until August/September time frame.
[HTC One X] mbomberz1:
Well I just ordered a One X. I will let you guys know how the bay area coverage is with 3g, and if none, hopefully i will be able to update with when it does finally turn on. I am just not willing to go back to ATT with their prices/Customer service so save some money initially. I will deal with 2g, Wifi is too close to me all the time to make the difference.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Edge is working fine for me until they refarm in my area. It's enough for live streaming radio, and I have no real interest in watching streaming videos on my phone when I'm not at home, so that's plenty.
[HTC One X] bangsters:
Is the refarming only in California for now? I'm in NJ and very close to pulling the trigger on a One X. When HSPA was first deployed by TMO, NY/NJ was one of the first to get it.....hopefully the same with the refarming, but couldn't find any more info on it.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
No, it's not only CA, but it's very limited overall. There's no official public map available to find locations; you either phone in and get somebody who knows what they're talking about on the phone, or you borrow a friend's iPhone and pop a T-Mob SIM in it.
[HTC One X] sosquidtaste:
Very interesting! I'm assuming by "we" you mean SoCal? Any idea if the coverage between Long Beach and LA proper would be covered by the same rollout?

Also, the obligatory West Side, Best Side, etc. etc.
[HTC One X] oakland73rd:
So does anyone in the bay area have an htc one x on t-mobile ? If so what kind of siganl do you get
[HTC One X] kgill7:
i can make calls and text, but i havent been able to get data, im in union city.
[HTC One X] mbomberz1:
I have mine running now. Only had it for 1 day in the San Mateo area. Works good, and i love love love the phone. Read below.

I had a lot of trouble yesterday trying to get data on my phone. Finally a solution. If you have the problem where you get voice/texts but no data. If you are in your APN settings and it says there is no sim card, its because your version of the Tmobile sim card is too new. Apparently the phone isnt compatible with the newer cards yet. I had to get a new OLD card. The guy at the 2nd tmobile store I went to said it was a 3G sim card out of an old Sensation. The newer '3GG', (not sure what that means) does not work for data.

After I finally got the right sim card, my edge data connected right up and everything is great. I have not seen any 3G in the San Mateo area yet, but the guy at the store was telling me its all about the Cities approving permits to refarm. They are going as fast as they can based on that. Not sure how accurate that is, just what i was told.

Funny side note: My phone is an Asian based one, HTC tech support told me it would NEVER connect on any carrier in the USA for data. Interesting mr. htc tech. I have edge now :P
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Interesting; I had exactly this problem with a SIM ordered off the T-Mobile website, and presumed it was because my SIM cutter damaged the card. Maybe not, then! (The SIM cutter, a Noosy, is still a piece of garbage because the SIM can move a couple of millimeters side to side, so you have to just guess the correct place to cut, but I digress).

It was solved in my case by going to my local T-Mobile store and getting a MicroSIM; the first one they tried worked just fine.
[HTC One X] evohog:
I went in and picked up a micro sim and everything connected just fine. Didn't feel like cutting and guessing.

THE 1-X
[HTC One X] oakland73rd:
okay thanks guys so edge is the basic of what i will get how is it running for you guys because i really want to buy it does the NFC work on it any reveiws yall have would be very much appreciated thanks
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
I don't have any NFC devices except the One X, so can't test that, but it has it and I'm sure it'll work just fine.

Edge is all you'll get in most places; only you can decide if that's enough. For me, it's plenty, but I'm coming from a dumbphone. Web pages generally take a few seconds to load, and it can sustain a roughly radio-quality audio stream without stutter or rebuffering just fine. You won't be watching streaming video on Edge unless it's very low-res or you're waiting an age to buffer, though.
[HTC One X] Tbbo514:
so u only get edge data correct not 3g or anything just trying to make sure before i make a purchase
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
As has been said quite a few times already, you will currently only get Edge data, unless you live in one of the handful of places they've already refarmed, yes.
[HTC One X] evohog:
Is the no 3g connectivity a hardware or radio issue.

THE 1-X
[HTC One X] joshnichols189:
Apparently it is hardware.
[HTC One X] evohog:
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping for when we achieve s off flashing a different radio for some love but oh well.

THE 1-X
[HTC One X] recondo1202:
I'm in this same boat...do I buy a $600 top of the line phone (Intnl HOX) hardware wise, only to use it on TMO USA Edge? I checked out the phone at a local AT&T store and WOW, I'm in love!

I'm almost through a week long test run of setting my Sensation on EDGE only. So far:

1) I've experienced issues using Navigation on Google Maps - sometimes times out

2) Web pages do load up much slower but if not in a rush, I could probably live with it.

3) Forget YouTube videos but don't watch much on the go, only when home on WiFi

4) SMS and MMS come in fine; slight delay for MMS

5) Voice is fine

6) Don't use games so N/A

7) Email works fine

8) Tango does not work well at all, in fact it's horrible

In the end, it's obviously your call but try doing what I did and see if you could live with EDGE for a week...I'm so close to pulling the trigger :-)

Good luck!
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Go with offline nav and you're sorted. That's what I did.

Sygic maps for the whole of the US will run you US$24. If you want Canada and Mexico too, it's $32. Even if you get global coverage (pretty-much all of the developed world and some third-world coverage too), it's only $80. And it runs beautifully on our phones, complete with 3D buildings and landmarks, and 3D land contours. The only thing from Google that it lacks is satellite view, and really... do you actually need to see aerial photography of what you're standing in the middle of very often? :-)
[HTC One X] jfrock25:
I just swithced from Tmobile to Straight Talk.

You need to purchase the MicroSim ATT one from them.

Got my phone last week and finally switched number and service a few hours ago.

Getting decent speeds in Chicago.

45 dollars a month, No Contracts, Unlimited.

I have read not to go over 2gb a month to prevent data usage issues. I checked and was only using a little over 1gb a month on tmobile since Im around wifi so much. So this was a good option for me.

You will also roam on Tmobile Edge when not in ATT service area.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
I considered the same, but saw too many reports of extremely bad customer service, unclear bandwidth caps, etc. to go with it. With T-Mobile my cap is 5GB and even then, they only throttle to Edge speed, so effectively I don't have a cap. That, and I pay $30 a month for unlimited data, unlimited voice, 100 minutes (and 10c a minute after that, although I will seldom need more as I don't use voice a lot), with no contract.

Would I like 4G? Sure. Is it worth paying an extra 50% more a month for, and getting a lower cap and probably support issues? In my case, no. For other folks, maybe it is...
[HTC One X] jfrock25:
Yes I considered all of this before I switched. For someone like you that uses a lot of data it would probably be a bad thing.

If I end up not liking the service I would consider going back to tmobile once they refarm there hspa service and sign up for there no contract plan.

For me and my data usage it was a no brainer as I did not want to go to AT&T and did not want to have Edge only service.
[HTC One X] donhu:
This sucks sooo bad. Guess I should've done more reading before I bought this phone. Fell in love with then only to find this out. So naturally I tried to use the edge to see if its something I can live with but..... idk man. I tried using the GPS on my way home from getting a new non gba sim from my T-Mobile store. I changed routes and the phone started rerouting, I got home before it found a new route :-(
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
As I said to somebody else, look into offline nav. It's a dream on this phone. Sygic works brilliantly, route calculation puts my dedicated TomTom to shame, the maps are more useful than Google, and although you only pay a flat rate, you get map updates free of charge. And you can choose which countries / regions you want to download. Well worthwhile.

Or, I'll be happy to take your phone off your hands for a suitable discount. I'm sure my wife would love one. ;-)
[HTC One X] recondo1202:
Cool...I'll check this out!
[HTC One X] donhu:
Nahhh thats ok lol, I can still return mine which is what i think im going to do. At least i got to experience it :( Bout to go find the return to stock thread.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Hah!

Well, each to his own. Have to say though, I have a problem with people returning products that have absolutely no issues because they didn't do their own homework. To me, if there's no fault it should be your responsibility to sell unless you pay a restocking fee, otherwise the loss in revenue gets passed on to everybody else in the form of higher prices.

But that's a bit beside the point here; good luck to ya.
[HTC One X] atvxda:
I'vs been with T Mobile since 2001. I just ordered my gray international One X on Friday and am expecting a Fed Ex delivery on Monday. It will be replacing my Sensation XE with which, I've been enjoying 3g and HSPA+ with.

I'm no stranger to Edge only speeds with my unlocked, international addiction, lol. Looks like I'll be eating my on words when I stated previously that I learned from my unlocked Desire HD days on T MoUSA but I just could not resist.

Cheers to all who are enjoying their international One X, with or without 3g. I'm crossing my fingers that my city will be ne,t on the T Mobile 1900 band reframing.

Peace.
[HTC One X] kgill7:
anyone know where i can get an old sim card that will work with the one x??

tried microsim and the big sim after cutting it down and didnt work for data, only calls and sms.
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Go to your T-Mobile store and get them to give you a hand. I did; they sorted it.
[HTC One X] evohog:
I went in instead of trying to cut one up and they gave me one for free. It worked fine with out any issues.
[HTC One X] kgill7:
i went there and tried a microsim and a big sim which was cutdown and they both didnt give me data.

the expiry date for both sims were 2014 or 2015 i think i need one like 2013??
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Different store, perhaps? (Maybe find a less popular one?) Not sure what to suggest, tbh, my store got me the card I needed first time.
[HTC One X] donhu:
Make sure its a Non GBA SIM card
[HTC One X] kgill7:
how do i find that out?

can u send me a pic of the card, or the big card, i just wanna see what pic is on it?
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
I'm afraid I didn't get the big card. I'll go fish the MicroSIM out of the phone and see what markings it has.
[HTC One X] phoneman09:
Cool, I'm interested also. My friend just ordered a one x last week to use on tmobile and is getting a little worried it won't work now. If someone could get the older micro sims and put them on here that would be great!
[HTC One X] kgill7:
ok thnx
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
OK, checked. Mine looks identical to the one in this photo, except the second number is different. I believe that's just the 9-digit Mobile Station Identification Number, and so unique to my card.

I believe 50.01 is the Micro SIM card revision. Data, voice, and messaging all work fine for me.
[HTC One X] phoneman09:
Any way you could get any more of these at all?
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
Not really; the store I got it from was one I happened to be passing on a day trip, and was a good 45 minutes drive from my house in a direction I seldom head.

My suggestion: phone around your local T-Mobile stores until you get one that says they have Micro SIM cards marked "50.01" in stock.
[HTC One X] phoneman09:
Alright well I will see what I can do. If anyone has access to these I among other people would greatly appreciate it!
[HTC One X] atvxda:
I received my international One X yesterday. Same issue with the micro SIM, voice and text just fine (and weather updates, oddly) however no data.

Your best bet is calling around and asking for a non GBA SIM (as previously suggested). They are out there, you just have to search. All of the stores in Boston stated to me that they only carry the newer SIMs. I am currently calling stores in the greater Boston area searching. If this does not work, I can simply Google/Amazon/eBay it or even Craigslist for an older non activated SIM card. *the T Mobile rep called me back to confirm that a store near by had the non GBA SIM and have it on hold for me. Also, initally the rep asked me, "let me guess, the One X?" :D

As far as the phone, I purchased the Gray model. The screen is gorgeous. I've done a lot of research on the One X and it is slightly (just slightly) longer than the GS2 that my wife owns, same lenght as the One S actually. Obviously, it is wider and not as thin but still thinner than my Sensation XE.

So, I love my new phone. I wish they used a different materiel or finish on the gray, I really don't like th sides (glossy) and I wish the camera lens was retracted further, I share the same concerns as many One X owners do (there's a thread on here regarding this) but over all, wow.
[HTC One X] phoneman09:
Glad to hear you got your one x, I tried talking to customer service and they had no idea what I was talking about. If you are able to get your hands on more than one that would be great. My friends one x is coming today so the sooner we find the right micro sim the better!
[HTC One X] atvxda:
It was quite the fiasco today at the T Mobile store. Bottom line is, they have the "non GBA" SIMs, they just have to sort through a lot in order to find one or to even determine if the store still carries them.

I did get one, it took a while but they found it. Supposedly, the last one...

I've never been happier with Edge, lol. Can't wait for the reframing to happen.
[HTC One X] YoungAceAtlanta:
I wouldn't spend $600-$800 on a device to just use it on Edge

Most def if you u have a unlimited data plan n like to stream audio ; video