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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] collinsac24:
This project would be placed under design, the design guidelines state to provide your background in the subject of your project and manufacturing plans which theledman has done neither. So I'm sure that's the reason, should be a simple fix for him. Also there's a few spelling mistakes (bear should be bare) for example
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Edited
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blarok:
Hi theledman / Bruuce,

i just want to thank you two for your efforts in creating hardcases with dock "support". I didnt recognize your projects earlier because im not often online here in XDA because we have a very good german forum for prime users (and Android devices in general) called "android-hilfe.de" which has plenty of users so i seldom have a reason to log in here...

Well, my question is, if you'd agree me to open a thread in our german Prime forum to make the users there recognize your projects (we already had given up on searching for good hardcases...)? I would be glad to moderate (moderate means to translate/ create a FAQ in first) it to take some effort off of your shoulders! :)

I would add a link to your XDA threats and a link to Kick Starter and what else will be needed (pictures, videos, etc.) to make it more public to everyone in germany/austria/switzerland etc. if you like. And if the things look good for the Infinity and 300 users, i'd also create a thread in their sub forums, too.

I'm pretty sure there are some people who want that awesome cases!

Greetz

Blarok

Edit: If you agree, it would be nice to have some Pictures/ Videos of your prototypes to upload it onto the forum with the features of your case highlighted (maybe if i do that, i`d get something wrong...). A Youtube link would be nice...

I'll send you my contact data if you agree.

PS: dont wonder if you read this post twice on each thread, i simply overread the post of Bruuce saying his project is different from theledman's so i edited a little and copy-pasted it...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sunrainsky:
Hope it's still on

Hey, I really hope this project gets through.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Schmebuba:
I'm looking for a hard case for my Prime. Found this thread here and have to say I'm interested in testing and getting and donating one
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] johnsonjf:
Is this project still alive? Waiting patiently....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Holyrex:
I have 3d printer

Could you upload a stl. so that i could try printing a model myself? Mabye post it on thingverse?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lord_alias:
I would be interested in the render too, I have limited access to a rapid prototyper and large 3D printer and would like to give it a go?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TechAnimal:
I'm interested as well!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mail2n:
I'm in. I've been looking looking for one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stlouisfinest68:
I would buy one if u did
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] indoMLA:
Interested

I would be interested in it if you could get a stand incorporated into it and also a way to keep the MicroSD card in the Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lmm112190:
Amazing

Amazing Idea!! i never even thought about making one on a 3D printer, (as im an engineer and have access to one but have never sent anything to it) have been using something similar to THIS on my mac for years, it would be awesome if you could produce something like this that just clips around the edges but has a cut out for the dock support in the back and then even something for the keyboard with maybe better rubber feet as mine never sits flat when opened and slides around my desk?

would purchase a black satin one right now (not very wild about the ASUS color selection)

A stand may be a good idea for one without the keyboard dock cut out.

I would be willing to help in the design if needed, I am very much interested in this project.

Edit: For the keyboard dock something Like This how the side is cut away for the smart cover, only in our case make this cut away a bit larger in order to accomodate the keyboard.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] computerdan:
I, too, would love to see Speck make a thin snap-on case. My buddy has this one for his Macbook Air and it is amazing.

https://www.speckproducts.com/macbook-cases/macbook-air/seethru-satin-for-macbook-air.html

If they (or someone else) could make one for the keyboard dock and the tablet...I'd be in for up to $75 for a good quality product. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wmfreak:
I'm in

I'm all for a thin black matte one for table only!

W
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] corban227:
Yes plz.

I've been looking for one forever. I love my case for my tablet but I rarely use the dock because its such a hassle to take the tablet out of the case

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
Hello,

I have recently started a company that is currently working on the same project. We are dedicated to making custom cases for individuals, starting with the prime since that's what I own as well. I didn't want to jump the gun with a dedicated thread before we had a prototype to show, but i'm glad to see so much interest in the concept.

I look forward to reading your design ideas and to showing you what we're working on soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kman79:
Count me in on the idea, I'd be really interested if you can get something done at a fair price.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CideLode:
I would very much be interested in this. I actual sat down this morning in a vector graphics program to try and figure out how I could hack two of these together (link below) to approximate the same thing you are talking about prototyping. Add me to the pre-order list! ;)

(Sorry, can't link yet, just add www and dot com. Pipes = slashes. I've lurked for awhile, but saw this thread and had to add my 2 cents of encouragement.)

I sat down to try and figure out how to hack two of these together... pricey though

gumdropcases|asus-prime.html

I was going to use this temporarily... or settle if the hack wouldn't work

amazon|gp|product|B007CAZNP8|ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

I think focusing on a hard case that supports both the tab and dock is the way to go. Especially if you can design it in such a way as to allow the tab to be removed easily whenever you want to undock. Perhaps a 3 piece prototype that has separate hardcase pieces for the tablet, keyboard, and the hinge?

I did have my microSD card pop out on mine as well. I had assumed I accidentally depressed it with my hand while handling the tablet. I had thought about buying a junk test microSD card to see if I could file down the end so it would be flush with the port. Hopefully enough plastic on the end to file down before you hit card innards. Definitely don't want the 32 or 64 gb card jumping out once I get it though.

You two need to rub heads together and get the prototype(s) to market pronto so I can give you guys some money and get some armor for my ATP! ;)

Thanks for putting the effort in making us a good hard shell case!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ZebTheCalvinist:
If there was a three-piece system that covered the Prime, dock and hinge, I would be down for one. It would need some sort of detent to fit the microSD card and a hole for the HDMI port large enough for a typical cable to fit in.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] racerxx:
I would be in on a simple thin clear cover for just the tablet.

A little tougher than a skin cover but not as thick as a leather one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stanglifemike:
I would definitely buy one, wouldn't even think twice about it!! I hope this thread plays out well for everyone. Back when the Evo 4G was fairly new, a member posted about developing some clear battery doors. Many other members doubted him, but he came through. Sold very many even though he barely advertised them or marketed them outside of XDA, if he did at all. I bought 3 clear an 4 of other various colors, I especially loved the clear!!

An item like this could sell really really well if it's decent quality and a good fit. Good luck on this endeavor, and I hope to have one on my Prime in the near future!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] andyqutami:
I'm in.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bawb3:
interested as well. Black, red, or blue for me :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jemberton:
I'd be interested in this sort of thing also.

To those that are looking to manufacture and distribute, would they be easily available in the UK?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
My company is located in the U.S. but seeing as this isn't a product that would require CE certification, I'm confident that we could ship them to the UK quickly. Plus these things weigh almost nothing, so the shipping wouldn't cost much.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Felixpau86:
If the price is right I'm in
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] riyatch:
im in but now we have to worry about this gps dongle thing..:mad::confused::mad::confused::rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] almightywhacko:
Allegedly it will be tiny and will sit flush with the edge of the prime so it shouldn't be too much of an issue. Also any decent case will have a cut-out for the dock connector so it shoulnd't be too much of an issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] racerxx:
How about a nice render to wet our appetite? :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rift999:
I would also like one.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sfhsbw:
I would definitely be interested. I am surprised that something like that isnt readily available yet!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adam111:
I'd been in too. Been looking for a little while now ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] IversGarn:
I'm in!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] UltraVicious:
+1 i was about to ask about a case like this.

also +1 on a render
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
workin' on it, i've been pretty busy with other projects but promise a physical prototype and pictures by the end of the week.

PM me about this so we don't have any IP conflicts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
Already did :D I sent you a message before I publicly posted so that you wouldn't think I was trying to poach your thread.

As far as prototype pics, I've got a few features that I'm excited to show everyone but I need to nail down a few details before I make them public.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
Updated OP
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CideLode:
Thanks for the update. Renders are looking very good. Is this just a teaser for the entire case at this point? Will the finished product include a matching protector for the keyboard dock and hinge? Money is literally jumping out of my wallet to get one of these on my ATP soon. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
I've only modeled the main case so far but will have the dock case done soon as well...hopefully by this friday but I'm not sure since work's been pretty busy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ZebTheCalvinist:
If you can get a multi-piece setup that will work with the dock, I would definitely be up for one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] johnsonjf:
I'm down for one!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bawb3:
Looks awesome!

Signed up for one :)

Are you going to have any options for colors?

Out of curiosity, what software do you do your designs in?

Oh, and any ideas as to how much this will cost?

K im done asking questions like an 8 year old
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
Well, a quick update.

There was a mix up with an order and one of our suppliers sent us the wrong material, so my prototype will be delayed a few days.

I've been talking to Theledman privately about our different designs. We each have been consulting IP lawyers so that credit goes where it belongs with each of our products. I've got a few documents that need to be signed before things go public, but I promise it'll be worth the wait. :D

Bawb3, I know your questions were for Theledman but I'll give you my answers while I'm here:

I design in Solidworks. My case will be covered with high quality "carbon fiber" vinyl from 3M for a better textured surface, but the hard plastic I'm using is clear so if people wanted then I could just leave the vinyl off. I'm shooting for under $15 for a backplate similar to Theledman's rendering, however the manufactering process isn't fully nailed down so I can't commit to a hard number.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kman79:
The renders do look quite promising.

Any chance the outside of the case can be made/covered with soft touch material/rubber? Just an idea
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moe5508:
Looks awesome, count me in and really looking forward to this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CideLode:
Ooooh... there's an idea. Have the case (either clear or colored) have an outlined edge where you could skin it however you like. If you wanted a carbon fiber look, just apply an adhesive skin. If you wanted a rubberized, grippy, soft touch material... just apply that "skin" instead. If the hard shell had a recessed area on the outside then the skin could just fit inside of that framed area perhaps. Would adding a recessed area with a raised edge on the hard shell edge so that the skin would sit flush be that difficult to add to the CNC render/model? (I know zero about about modelling for CNC other than at a conceptual level). Technically... if you had this recessed area as a guide you could buy -any- skin on the market and apply it, then say use an exacto knife to trim it to fit using the recessed frame edge as a guide (think of it like applying a generic sized laptop skin then trimming it to fit the recessed frame skin in the hard shell).

For me personally, I'm thinking a dark grey or black hard shell material with a lighter grey grippy/leathery/rubberized material. That would be awesome. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
I like the idea, but my primary objective would be to make it as thin as possible. Taking away material for a skin would make it weaker and beefing it up to allow for a recess would violate the thin objective. It's something we can consider, though I'm hesitant only because it might be difficult to accommodate for every type of skin that's available out there (and their varying form factors). Still, it's a good idea, perhaps something Bruuce can take up?

As of right now, I'm trying to get prototypes done so at least i have the form factor down and everything is to spec. Once that's complete and I get a finalized group of people for a group buy (or I set up a kickstarter), I will get molds done and from there, we can decide what colors/textures/finishes we want. No idea on cost since it depends heavily on volume.

I design in ProE. It's like solidworks, but i find its surface modeling is in a much higher resolution than solidworks. That said, solidworks is a lot less finicky and much more straightforward sometimes which i definitely appreciate.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
Sure, we can explore different textures/materials. The hard plastic we've been using is 0.04" (1mm) thick and the vinyl film is 0.01" so it's still pretty thin. I could play around with a plastic sheet of 0.5mm thickness if people want, but at that dimension the case will loose some of its rigidity.

My company has the ability to build these shells on an individual basis, so customization has been the driving force from the beginning. I hadn't planned to share this info yet, but our idea is to contact several graphic design artists and use their designs (printed on vinyl film) so people have options on the look of their case. Technically, we could allow people to send in their own designs and put whatever they wanted on the back. So there's my spoiler for the day.

(Theledman, just incase you didn't see it, I sent you a PM with my email address, lets use that for direct communication instead to better track everything.)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rift999:
I am curious when the prototypes get made can you let us know about the sd slot. I would like to know if it can stop jumping

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
I don't currently have an sd card in my prime. Once I saw the issues of normal cards sticking out past the edge, I didn't bother getting a high capacity one.

So I ask you knowledgeable sd card users. What exactly is the "jump" problem? And can it be solved by adding thickness to the edge of the prime (ie a hard shell case) or is the problem mechanical inside the prime and therefore our only solution would be to cover over the slot, effectively holding the card in? I'd personally like to make the SD card removable with the case on, but since it sticks out from the edge you would need to remove the SD card before removing the case.

Thoughts? Any feedback would really help Theledman and me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
I've created a slot for the micro sd card and made the chamfer for that slot significantly smaller than the chamfers for the other slots for the power button/volume buttons etc. This way, even though the card sits proud (not flush) with the prime, the case extends far enough (about 1.7mm past the edge of the prime's frame) that nothing should pop it out short of a direct hit into the card slot area.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rift999:
Thanks that is what I wanted to know. I believe that clears up the clarification too.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wokka00:
Looks pretty interesting. Different than what's available on the market at the moment.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] redlin'r:
Why can't I see the renderings!!?!?!

I am very interested in this idea, just wish I could see the concept.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
should be in the original post. pictures are embedded in the post but here they are anyway

http://postimage.org/image/3o5w6wug3/3666ca96/

http://postimage.org/image/mm8y08y0x/b81b1588/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] redlin'r:
Looks good! I would put money down on a snap on case with origami cover right now, that's exactly what I want. I currently have a clear skinomi skin and factory origami...

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I like something like this...

https://www.speckproducts.com/smartshell-for-ipad-2.html
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lamboboy732:
This is an awesome idea...i want one as long as they are reasonably priced.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n8mack33:
Me too.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mustkeg:
Me too. What about int'l shipping? :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
Sure, don't see why not! :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yankeefr78:
Same for Me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gatville:
Count me in!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] patcou:
Nice.....

I'm in with the origami cover. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
shouldn't be a problem
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JESommer:
If the price is right. I'd be looking for a clear one
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
Update: 3D printer at work apparently failed twice to print it. :mad: Tech guy said he can have it by monday, but I will be out of the country for work from the 15th until the 30th. I know i promised pictures by today...but unfortunately, unless you want pictures of failed print jobs, I won't be able to get pictures until the 30th.

Fret not though!... instead I will be working hard during the next two weeks to get models of the dock and other variations (origami cover model, one with a kick stand etc) done as well and submit those models for printing so that I can have them all on the 30th. Consider this delayed gratification...you'll get them all at once instead! :)

On a side note, I do not own an origami cover and can't accurately measure dimensions from pictures so if someone has one that they can do measurements for me for, shoot me a pm

--edit: added this to OP.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
Have a safe trip Theledman. We look forward to your return!

In the mean time, my material came in yesterday. So if everything goes well over the weekend, Monday morning I should have a few prototype pics. The legal team won't let me disclose the patentable features, but I'm too excited for this to stay vaporware while papers are signed. See everyone on Monday!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I was in until I read you planned to mke it slotted for the keyboard ... which is of no interest to me as I would be left with this odd useless cutout.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xjamesx:
Great job so far, I've been working on this as well, I just got my prime a month ago. But I have no intention to mass produce like you guys. More of a personal project.

What techniques did you guys use to reverse engineer the surfaces? How accurate do you think the piece is? I know you will make a few prototypes and adjust from there but how did you capture the subtle surface transitions from the center to the edges. Did you get section data somehow?

I'm working on a 3D scanner to get accurate scan data as there is a slight bit of curvature I would like to capture in section so the final piece is a nice tight fit.. Surfacing would then be done in Alias and engineering details in Solidworks..

Either way great to see this happening, Keep it up.

-James-
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
I can make my cases in multiple configurations so you could order one without that cutout, but the first one's I release will most likely include the cutout since everyone can use it with or without a dock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
note original post...i will have other configs that dont have the cutout or may just have a piece slide on and off where the keyboard docks (like the otterbox cases for the ipad) so i dont have to have a bunch of different molds made.

just used a caliper and eyeballing it. i have the curvature slightly shallower than the form of the prime so that when it snaps in, it's forced to bend a little and match the curve of the prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aznmode:
Looks like you need to make 2 versions. One without the hinge cutout (maybe even with a kick stand) for those who dont have a dock and one with cutout as you posted along with dock case for those with docks. Definitely need to make one for the dock to counter balance the weight of the tablet case so it doesnt topple backwards so easily.

And for the tablet case only maybe make it compatible with the origami cover. No need for kickstand if this is the case.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stanglifemike:
Rendering pics look great except the cutout for the dock. I returned my dock as I knew I'd never use it. Hope plans also include a version for users who don't use the dock :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bruuce:
Good question James,

The easiest and most accurate way for me to fully capture all of the subtle surface curves in a 3D model is to use a CMM. You just point and click in a tight grid pattern which gives you a 3D point cloud that can be exported as an .igs for any CAD software. Then you create splines and surfaces from that.

It is very important for me to create a case that would fit the Prime like a glove, so rest assured that it'll hug every curve, especially the concave back.

Actually, I created an early 'clear plastic' prototype a month or so ago and had it on my Prime when a friend came over. I handed him the tablet and he didn't even realize that the case was on until I pointed it out. (it's since been damaged with further experiments and not worth showing off here. I'm building a better one thing weekend anyway :D)

I've got a few other manufacturing tricks up my sleeve that I'd be more willing to discuss after my product comes to market. James, if you get that 3D laser working it would be cool to see a quick video!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] danielcmacedo:
origami cover model will ROCKK
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tlaloc352:
Nice job

Love the idea. Clear would be great.