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[Nokia Lumia 900] notebookgrail:
FWIW, today i was calling TMO Account rep to get a new SIM card..While on the phone she was asking if they can offer me a deal for contract extension. I politely declined and asked them if they are getting the Lumia 900 anytime. She said something interesting - they were recently trained (self training) on it, but was not sure when such a device is coming. She herself said - why would they ask to train when the phone is not in the vicinity.

I also did ask her if she was referring to the Lumia 710 and she said no as it has been out for couple of months.

Let hope the Lumia 900 hits TMO soon.
[Nokia Lumia 900] cx1:
Here's to hoping.

My HD2 is getting tired and I am not interested in the 710 or Radar.
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
I heard a few months ago, T-Mobile was getting the 900 June-ish. 2 reasons I think what I read is valid.

1. The CEO or who ever it was, said they can make it without the iPhone. Android is too fragmented to lure that many new people.

2. This same guy, the President?? said they need to take another look at Windows Phone. The Lumia 710 is hte #2 seller at T-Mobile. I've actually walked in a Tmo store and saw lines looking at it. T-Mobile is known for cheap rates, and cheap phones. They cannot succeed like that too much longer. With out the iPhone franchise, and without a heavy Android franchise phone, Windows Phone is all that is left.

If they try to pass off the 710 or the radar as top line franchise phones, they will fail so fast. These are good phones, but not top end.

And, its logical. T-Mobile HQ is only a couple of miles away from Redmond HQ. There are alot of T-Mobile people working at Redmond HQ. They have a good relationship. It makes sense.

And final thing I heard, :p , T-Mobile offered to host the 900. But Nokia wanted Verizon. They settled for AT&T. So picture this....imagine, a TV commercial with Carly (the TMobile girl) carrying the 900....things dreams are made of.. :)
[Nokia Lumia 900] cx1:
LOL.

All the talk of T-mo raising rates recently I'm wondering if there will be any savings staying on.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
If anyone does receive a unit early or is able to buy at the store today/tomorrow, could you please take a picture of the side of the box that shows the frequnecy bands? Thanking you all very kindly in advance !
[Nokia Lumia 900] domin8:
i've got a buddy that works at ATT, i'll see if he can send me a pic of the side of one of the boxes tomorrow.
[Nokia Lumia 900] prjkthack:
Pretty sure I've seen and heard numerous times from different Nokia reps that the Lumia 900 is an AT&T exclusive. Of course, they didn't say how long of an exclusive it would be, or if they'd introduce some new phone with a different model number that's just the same thing for other carriers...

From a very recent Neowin interview.

Chances are though, since it's on AT&T, it'll be a phone that is not compatible with T-Mobile 3G/4G network.
[Nokia Lumia 900] geoken:
If he can get the pic make sure it's the side of the box with the barcode that shows the IMEI and serial. That's the sticker that should list the bands.
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
It is an AT&T exclusive for 45 days.....that's up at the end of April/early May.
[Nokia Lumia 900] cx1:
Right about the time the european 900 will be released
[Nokia Lumia 900] Deleted member 2842059:
Anandtech's review speculates an unlocked version might work. That said? Why not wait for the superior chip in the international version. Worth it, IMHO, not to mention the rotten EL DIABLO label plastered on the front of it. The Nokia logo is enough for me.
[Nokia Lumia 900] geoken:
I don't know about anyone else but I was planning on getting the Rogers version and not the AT&T one (specifically to avoid the ugly AT&T branding).
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
Anyone with a picture of the side of the box showing the frequency bands?

I was thinking of picking up the Cyan. The AT&T logo doesn't bother me so much. Someone mentioned that tethering might be locked down though. May have to wait for Rogers and the black model. In any case having a picture of the box where the lable is showing model# and IMEI number would be a big help. That's where it should show the frequency bands.
[Nokia Lumia 900] domin8:
There you go guys, buddy came through and sent me this of the box.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
The 1700/2100 is not listed in the HSPA specs. :-(

They are only listed under the LTE. I have an un easy feeling that it's not going to work (fully functional with cell/data) on T-Mobile or Mobilicity.

Looks like I'll have to hold out to see what the Rogers specs will be. The Lumia 710 I bought from them was GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100. Hoping they do the same for the Lumia 900. We'll know in about 10 days when they launch.
[Nokia Lumia 900] geoken:
Apparently Rogers is already shipping to people who pre-ordered.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
Maybe we can get some Rogers people receiving units (lumia 900) to post a pic of the label so we can see the specs?

The reason for this is to see the actual bands. When I bought the Lumia 710, Rogers website was only showing the GSM bands. When I went to the store to check the unit out, I then saw the HSPA bands on the label.

PS: reason why I said 10 days is the Rogers store told me that. I was in the store Wednesday (2 days ago). Oh well.. same confusion seems to exist in Rogers world.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
This article written 3 days ago suggests the phone "might just work on T-Mobile".

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5724/nokia-lumia-900-review-supersized-with-lte/7

I guess we will have to wait and see if it's true. Support for AWS 1700/2100 would be fantastic. Anyone unlocked this phone yet and try a T-Mobile sim ? Results ?
[Nokia Lumia 900] Timb320:
I will be picking this up today for the non-subsidized price and getting it unlocked to pop in my TMO sim. I'll replay later today on the results :). Note it may be late in the afternoon or evening as I will need to wait for the unlock code to be emailed to me.
[Nokia Lumia 900] domin8:
Let me know how it goes, i've got my fingers crossed (and credit card ready to buy one for myself!)
[Nokia Lumia 900] geoken:
Awesome, keeping my fingers crossed.

I unlocked 2 lumia 710's and the unlock code took a lot longer than I'm used to (over 24 hours using different providers each time). Apparently this is the norm for Nokia's so I'm guessing your 900 won't be unlocked today.

Sent from my Lumia 710 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
I guess the code didn't come through fast enough. Keep us posted when it does.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Timb320:
Yeah, still waiting on the unlock code. For my HD7s it was within a couple hours, I guess will see for the Nokia. Might be tomorrow. Got my MicroTMO sim ready to be activated once I get the code.
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
Could you cut a normal sim card and just use that?
[Nokia Lumia 900] Timb320:
Yes you could, but they can copy all your data to the new sim so you can activate it later. This way your not without phone service, why I did it that way.
[Nokia Lumia 900] yipcanjo:
That *should* work just fine, but in my case it didn't. I walked into my local T-Mobile store (with AT&T Lumia 900 in-hand), explained the situation, and the sales rep grabbed a SIM cutter -- that way I could use the SIM in the new phone, but also in my current phone until the unlock was completed.

Sadly, the SIM stopped functioning -- in either phone -- after he cut it. Not sure why, as the cut looked clean. He ended up getting me a true microSIM (for free), and I used the surrounding portion from the old one to keep my old phone functional. That's been fine so far.

As always, your mileage may vary...
[Nokia Lumia 900] chuey101:
yipcanjo,

care to tell us what kind of data you're seeing on the 900 on tmo?

also a tmo customer here who'd get a 900 tomorrow if data worked.
[Nokia Lumia 900] yipcanjo:
Sadly, I'm not unlocked yet. Still trying to see what T-Mo data is going to look like with an AT&T Lumia 900 :(
[Nokia Lumia 900] vertigo1:
Definitely waiting on a response here. You're the man or the hour :-)

Wife dying to get this thing.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Melin108:
Lumia 900 on Tmobile

Have you heard anything yet about the unlock code? I am curious on the data speeds as well being a T-Mobile customer myself. Hopefully we get some good news here. All I am looking for is 3G.

Thanks,

Jon
[Nokia Lumia 900] Timb320:
By the way which sim unlock site is everyone using?
[Nokia Lumia 900] megazone23:
Call the AT&T or T-Mobile customer service, they will give you the unlock code after you've been a customer for 3 months, worked every time I did for last 10 years on various phones including Android.

The only exception is iPhone which they will not give a code, blame Apple.
[Nokia Lumia 900] feedmylittletroll:
I called ATT today but they don't even have the unlock codes for the 900s yet. I was told to call back in 3-6 months.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Timb320:
The reason I ask and probably many here are doing is that we are purchased the AT&T Nokia lumia 900 at full price with the intention of using it on TMO, at a couple unlock sites show the device as having unlock codes, one I checked did not.

I'm pending one from Cellunlocker.net which I have used before for my HD7s I also found an alternative CellPhoneUnlock.net which states a 100% gaurenteed to unlock the device: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...okia-Lumia-900-by-unlock-code-any-GSM-network

I'm on 2nd biz day wait, Nokia codes take 3 to 7 days depending on which site you go to.

Just curious who used what site so we can compare once we do or god forbid, a code is not found (dont get a code).
[Nokia Lumia 900] bobo1510:
Just an FYI, I have used cellphoneunlock.net before with phones and got the codes in hours. Nokia must be a whole different animal. On the brightside, someone has to have the codes right!
[Nokia Lumia 900] zghaffar:
Any update on the unlock? Im waiting for a confirmation that 3G works on Tmobile! Fingers Crossed!
[Nokia Lumia 900] Timb320:
Not for me, I may end up jumping ship to AT&T tonight though, Everything I'm reading is there may be no unlock codes available yet, but If I do get one I will unlock for travel to overseas.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
I've unlocked a Rogers Lumia 900 and tried it with a Mobilicity sim. Doesn't work. Not matter what it would not give me basic cell service. I doubt data would be even possible, although going by the frequency bands listed on the box, it should work. YMMV.
[Nokia Lumia 900] xs2k:
Maybe the code is no good? At the very least, you should be able to make calls.
[Nokia Lumia 900] geoken:
It seems like the Rogers box is listing all the LTE frequencies together with the WCDMA frequencies. According to that label, this phone supports even more frequencies than the 710. My 710 box only lists WCDMA/HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100, the 900 isn't on there.

I'm guessing you already have, but if by any chance you forgot to run the Nokia network setup app perhaps you could try that?

Also, maybe there's something in the diagnostic app that needs to be turned on. I would try calling Nokia Canada and telling them you bought the phone because the box said it supported the frequencies you require but it isn't working. If we're really lucky a tech might walk you through the process of going through the diagnostic menu and turning something one.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Hamburg:
My F5 key is getting worn out... :(

I hope someone has some info soon.
[Nokia Lumia 900] westwaswon:
Man I've been checking this thread on the hour. I really hope the 900 works on TMO. I have the 710 on TMO but am dying to get the 900 if possible. For a "low end" device I love the 710 so I won't be too heart broken if I have to wait for an Apollo sometime down the road to get a "premium" phone.
[Nokia Lumia 900] jacklivehere:
i requested unlock code online, waiting for it ( so far 3 days) still counting.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
hey everyone... I've started a seperate thread to document the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 on Mobilicity and Wind (Canada).

I will keep watching here for any success with AT&T model working on T-Mobile.
[Nokia Lumia 900] feedmylittletroll:
i think everybody is just waiting to get unlock codes for our devices. Most companies are saying 3-7 business days for an unlock code for the ATT version.
[Nokia Lumia 900] vikramdhani:
still waiting for the unlock code as well and if Tmobile 3G/HSPA works then it will be great :) else i will return the phone back to ATT with a thank you note
[Nokia Lumia 900] MrGreencastle:
Just ordered mine a few hours ago from remotecellunlock.

They told me 24 hours, but it's for the Rogers version.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
I used them yesterday. It was later in the evening and they had it over to me in 35 minutes. Cost was USD$8.79.
[Nokia Lumia 900] MrGreencastle:
Yeah you recommended them to me. Unfortunately it's been over three hours, hopefully I can get it tonight for work tomorrow! I had to get a new microsim from Bell, and I'm now without a phone...
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
Uh oh.... ya... hopefully they get the code over to you fast ! I couldn't beleive my eyes last night. That's the fastest I've had an unlock code delivered.
[Nokia Lumia 900] detox8907:
So I've been researching Rogers' frequencies in Canada and T-mobile's frequencies in the US and they are the same.... So an unlocked Rogers Lumia 900 should work on T-mobile. AT&T uses different frequencies therefore 3g/4g will not work. I guess we'll find out if Rogers devices work when you guys get the unlock codes. Right now I'm studying abroad in Paris. I've got my HTC Radar that I love, except for the measly 8GB, but I'm definitely getting an unlocked Rogers Lumia 900 for my T-mobile service! Keep us posted!
[Nokia Lumia 900] MrGreencastle:
It's not looking too good :(

Oh well... I guess I'm going bareback at work tomorrow.
[Nokia Lumia 900] xs2k:
If 3G works on the Lumia, wouldn't the HTC Titan II also work since they have same frequencies?
[Nokia Lumia 900] MrGreencastle:
So I just woke up and received an email saying that they were unable to unlock my phone and will receive a refund... This is terrible news. :(

I wonder why they were unable to, since you've had yours no problem.

I ordered it again and said the model was the Nokia Lumia 900, not the Nokia 900, and received it in about an hour. Everything's good to go, even working on LTE. I had to manually set the APN for Bell, since Nokia do not have their Network Config app in the Canadian market for some reason...

The only thing that doesn't work is MMS, so I'll wait for either an unlock, or the Network Config app to fix that.

I guess there's a difference between the 900 and the Lumia 900. Oh well, now I know.
[Nokia Lumia 900] megazone23:
There is a Nokia N900 around longer than any Lumia.
[Nokia Lumia 900] geological1:
It isn't listed under Nokia apps on my AT&T 900 either.

I have it on my 710 though from Rogers.
[Nokia Lumia 900] yipcanjo:
I used the site CellPhoneUnlock.net about 6 days ago...and finally received a reply back today...

"Sorry, the unlock code was not found from the database so your order has been refunded."

Not good :(
[Nokia Lumia 900] feedmylittletroll:
I have a bad feeling that it might be an iphone like situation for the US 900s :mad:
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
us tmo users might have to get the international version.. which will be more expensive =l
[Nokia Lumia 900] jacklivehere:
same here.
[Nokia Lumia 900] megazone23:
I think the international version has neither LTE nor 3G band for T-Mobile US.

Our only hope is on the Lumia 900 AT&T's LTE (1700/2100) band.

Will there a unbranded Lumia 900 US available? I don't want any AT&T crap on it even if can be unlocked.
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
yeah.. that really sucks and i dont think so, i agree though the att logo makes it ug
[Nokia Lumia 900] Melin108:
Does Bell have the same bands as T-Mobile US? I am still wondering if anyone has tried the Lumia 900 on T-Mobile and successfully unlocked it. I certainly hope so because I am looking forward to this phone. I am almost 100% certain it will work for T-Mobile on EDGE network but I would really prefer 3G at least despite typically being around Wi-Fi. Please let me know.

Thank you in advance.
[Nokia Lumia 900] feedmylittletroll:
Nobody can get an unlock code for an ATT version of this phone so we won't be able to tell if it will work on Tmobile for a while. I am hoping ATT will get there head out of there arse and give out some unlock codes but I doubt that will happen :(
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
they always take a few months to release them (for customers). i always bought them online
[Nokia Lumia 900] detox8907:
Oh my God! It's like no one read my previous post....

The Nokia Lumia 900 for Rogers when unlocked will work on T-mobile perfectly because Rogers utilizes all the same bands as T-mobile.

The Unlocked AT&T Nokia Lumia 900 will not work fully functional with T-mobile because about half of the bands are incompatible.

Moral of the story is....

Get a Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 if you have T-mobile. The unlock codes for the Rogers Lumias are out. Unlock it. Use it like a champ.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
Be careful here.... Rogers model is also an LTE phone. The specs make is seem that it would work, but I had issues with getting the phone to connect and discovered the reason. Read this post here beofore running out to get the Rogers version of the Nokia Lumia 900.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1594870
[Nokia Lumia 900] Hamburg:
And the May 23 countdown begins!! (The date that At&t's exclusivity ends)

Lets hope a T-mob version drops immediately after...
[Nokia Lumia 900] geological1:
Here are the bands from the respective Nokia websites:

Nokia Canada

Operating band

GSM 850

GSM 900

GSM 1800

GSM 1900

WCDMA Band V (850)

WCDMA Band II (1900)

WCDMA Band I (2100)

LTE Band 17 (700)

LTE Band 4 (1700/2100)

Nokia USA

Operating band

GSM 850

GSM 900

GSM 1800

GSM 1900

WCDMA Band V 850

WCDMA Band VIII 900

WCDMA Band II 1900

LTE Band 17 (700)

LTE Band 4 (1700/2100)

There is no version that supports T-Mobile 3G WCDMA bands, which are 1700/2100 (both need to be supported).

Caveat being that Nokia Canada doesn't list the 1700 band for the Lumia 710 whereas it does on gsmareana so who knows what is right on their own website.
[Nokia Lumia 900] aquanaut88:
are you sure about this? rogers phone is pentaband umts. att only tri-band + their proprietary LTE.

[photo credits to original posters on page 2 and 4 of this thread]
[Nokia Lumia 900] geological1:
I just cut and pasted.

Just don't understand why it would be sold on Rogers with no WCDMA 1700 listed.
[Nokia Lumia 900] detox8907:
I also read on another site where someone wanted to use an unlocked T-Mobile branded US phone in Canada because they wanted to use it with a company that wasn't Rogers but it turned out that because of the bands of the T-Mobile phone they could only use it succesfully with Rogers... I'll look up the post.
[Nokia Lumia 900] aquanaut88:
Would appear Rogers and T-Mobile both use UMTS Band IV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

Cheers
[Nokia Lumia 900] xs2k:
Doesn't the Lumia and Titan 2 have the same LTE bands?

I'm currently on the T2 unlocked for T-Mobile and ONLY edge is working. Heck, I MMS is not working either. HTC connection setup app is not currently compatible with the new T2 to configure for MMS. Just a FYI
[Nokia Lumia 900] feedmylittletroll:
i think most people, including myself, think that the Lumia 900 is compatible with Tmo's HSPA+ network because the FCC documents showed it working with a 1700 WCDMA band as well as the 1700 LTE band, so I am hoping it works until proven wrong. I remember when people told me that there is no way the Galaxy Note would work on Tmo
[Nokia Lumia 900] aquanaut88:
Look up 5 posts -- images of both ATT and Rogers Lumia 900 retail box labels listing certified GSM and UMTS bands for each model. In Summary:

WCDMA/HSPA Bands:

ATT 850/1900/2100 (triband only)

Rogers 850/900/1700/1900/2100 (pentaband)

T-Mo uses band IV. ATT only shows bands I, II, and V... ATT version won't work on TMO's WCDMA (3G). Rogers version includes two extra UMTS bands 900 and 1700.

And for anyone who doesn't understand what UMTS is, see the wikipedia link two posts above. It shows which carriers use which UMTS bands. So unless you're TMO coverage has the UMTS(WCDMA) 1900 band like parts of Nevada and Northern California, you're ATT Lumia 900 will only do EDGE with a T-Mo SIM.

Cheers

Cheers
[Nokia Lumia 900] jazzedmurf:
So what you're telling me...

So, as a US T-Mobile user, I can buy a Rogers Lumia 900, unlock it, and enjoy all that T-Mobile has to offer? I would LOVE to have this phone, but I'd hate to just be stuck on Edge as would be the case if I got the At&t version.

Thanks for all your input!
[Nokia Lumia 900] geological1:
OK. That box explains why it is on Rogers and working even though their own website doesn't list the 1700 band....and why it would work on T-Mo

http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...=normal&productId_Detailed=LUM900BLKR&N=52+11

So does that mean that...and this is what I had heard very early and why I bought the AT&T phone.....is that the Rogers Lumia 900 doesn't have LTE????? Based upon the box...not the possibly bogus website listing.
[Nokia Lumia 900] xs2k:
Anyone here with Rogers phone willing to find out? I'll donate some $$$ to your unlocking fees.
[Nokia Lumia 900] geological1:
I would bet it will.

This is basically the same bands on the Rogers 710 that I just used in the states on T-Mobile.

The Rogers 710 is pentaband.
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
If it works i would be so happy lol. I really want the lumia 900. now if the 800 didnt have pentile and had a front facing cam i would have got it but that isnt the case
[Nokia Lumia 900] feedmylittletroll:
If I am in the states, where/how can I buy a Rodgers version? I haven't seen any on amazon or ebay
[Nokia Lumia 900] aquanaut88:
This video of a Rogers pentaband UMTS Lumia 710 is connecting to Wind (UMTS band IV). Wind uses same UMTS Band IV as T-Mobile USA.

http://wmpoweruser.com/250-rogers-c...taband-and-works-on-wind-and-mobilicity-also/

Draw your own conclusions.

Bottom line still is ATT phone won't work on T-Mo...
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
I already did this. I bought a Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 and unlocked it. It would not work with Mobilicity which has the same bands as T-Mobile. The label on the Rogers product is misleading. The 1700/2100 bands listed are actually LTE bands as per Nokia Canada website.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Theechef:
Was your microsim specifically an LTE one? Cuz I also got a lumia 900 from rogers and unlocked it but im getting the invalid sim icon in the status bar
[Nokia Lumia 900] stratax:
i wonder if a prepaid micro sim would work (tmo us). thats what i would be using.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
I would say it would not work. Again the 1700/2100 on the Rogers version are for LTE. The box is labeled incorrectly !
[Nokia Lumia 900] TechMan-2012:
Has anyone actually tried an unlocked Rogers Lumia 900 on Tmo to see for sure? I think that is what we are all waiting to see.
[Nokia Lumia 900] feedmylittletroll:
No, but I am almost willing to try it. I don't think unlock codes are going to come for a while for the ATT 900s
[Nokia Lumia 900] Theechef:
I went back to bell today and requested an LTE provisioned microsim instead whatever crap they gave me. Everything works flawlessly right now except for the fact the i'm only getting 3G
[Nokia Lumia 900] geological1:
So how is it supposed to work on Rogers without UTMS 1700 which is listed on the box??

I have another email into Nokia Canada with images of each box.

Theire first email back said they are the same and I don't believe it.

---------- Post added at 11:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:37 AM ----------

This would support the phone not having LTE as per the box.

Let us know.
[Nokia Lumia 900] PaullikesWINMO:
I beleive Rogers is actually utilizing the LTE frequency in the 900 band. The other bands (1700/2100) are there too but they are not using those.