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[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] rovex:
Why credibility gone? I hate the look of iOS which i think is very dull and I find Apple a horrible company. I buy Samsung to support free trade and as a protest to the way apple thinks it can limit choice by suing everyone over idiotic patents it should never have been granted.

The TF prime is better, but its not about raw power, its about optimization. There is no reason this tab needs to be so slow when the xoom isnt or even the Advent Vega!

Im going to wait for a real ICS ROM and see, by that time i may have got over the dust disappointment, but if it doesnt speed up its going.

You seem to think im asking to much for a tab to be able to actually function without stuttering, well i dont think i am. Im used to the slight Android stutter, but this is WAY beyond that. If i drag my finger slowly from screen to screen its smooth until it gets to about 40% of the way across, at which point it starts to stutter, however slowly i swipe. My S2 doesnt do that, even my Desire didnt, even my friends Wildfire doesnt and that has a 600mhz single core CPU.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] varsas:
Your Desire didn't? Hmm....as for being markedly worse than the Xoom with TW removed to make the OS more equivalent the performance is the same.

In any case it's hardly fair to compare the 8.9 to the S2 when the latter runs at a lower sub-HD resolution and isn't capable of displaying multiple large widgets. The 8.9 is quite up to HD video play back but then how is that worse than the S2?

I don't think anyone is saying that it's too much to ask for it to function without stuttering but it seems most, including myself, do not see the level of problems you appear to see. The example you give of stuttering at 40% swipe, I really don't see my home screens pause for fractions of a second as I swipe between them; it continues to move smoothly all the way in line with my finger movement.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] rovex:
Its smooth without widgets, but not with them. The more i use, the slower it gets. My S2 is running 6 full screen scrollable widgets, its has no slow down whatsoever. Sure WVGA makes life easier, but the Galaxy note is also smooth with ICS, that is HD and has the same CPU (in most markets). Tablet widgets are no bigger than phone ones., and even if they were the Tab struggles with the same ones my S2 has no issues with, even if they are smaller!

Ive given up using widgets now and it makes the device much nicer to use, but it seems like a waste of the larger screen.

For what its worth i have no issues with gaming.

The Note and S2 will both decode full rate 1080P blu-ray files, the tegra struggles with heavily reduced rate 720P. I have a copy of 'Drive' in 720P on my Laptop, S2 and Tab, the tab stutters and pauses, the others are smooth as silk.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Gizmo123:
You seem to be forgetting that the CPU and GPU in SGS 2 are more powerful than the Tegra 2 solution. Include also that more powerful device is running on a lower resolution screen, add the a lot more optimized ICS version for SGS 2, and you can clearly see the end result.

Is 8.9 perfectly smooth at this point? No, maybe it will never be, even with official ICS. I doubt we will see the improvement with buggy TouchWiz slapped on it, but at least devs will get some good stuff from it, like camera drivers and kernel. You can just hope for the best, or sell the tablet and purchase another more powerful model, something with Tegra 3 perhaps. We all know what's wrong with this model, we don't need someone to point it out.

High profile 720p and 1080p are just not doable on Tegra 2 solutions, it was like that from the start, there is nothing we can do to make it play nice without stuttering. I do get a decent framerate with DicePlayer on 1.4 GHz with some 720p movies, but not for long, on certain scenes it just becomes choppy. It's choppiest when you start the movie, but if you leave that tablet like that, and not swipe around, it gets better and better, only to be choppy again when more demanding scene comes up.

It is a shame, great screen going to waste, but if i sell it now, i don't know what tablet i would get to replace it. Transformer Prime is not cheap, i would need to add more money to get it, but i just love the form factor on this one. It's a difficult decision, and when the Tegra 3 tablets get their prices slashed, this thing will be even harder to sell.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] rovex:
Im not forgetting anything. My point is that if Tegra is so bad, it should never have been used in a top end device. I only paid £279 for mine, but if i paid the full £399 launch price i would be very upset.

The TF Prime still uses Tegra, the '3' isnt much better, as far as i can see its still broken, they are just throwing more broken cores at the problem in an attempt to fix it.

Its acceptable for now, but i still dont see why it should stutter with hardware acceleration enabled.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] varsas:
Widgets are the same size? 1 full screen widget on the 8.9 carries over twice as much information as 1 full screen widget on the S2.

How does Dual-core 1.4 GHz ARM Cortex-A9 in the Note equate to Dual-core 1GHz Cortex-A9 in the 8.9?

As for decoding, I would say that the almost double resolution on the 8.9 vs the S2 is a factor aside from CPU difference.

You say the Note is fine and is that from your own experience?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] sbeddoesdesign:
Because it means you aren't judging something objectively... Samsung have been attempting these crazy law suits too, and they did get their name in the smartphone/tablet market by being as close to Apple as possible... TouchWiz for Android 2 is basically Android hacked to look and act more like iOS and the phones up until S2 were all designed to look like iPhone alternatives (look how the Galaxy S is the iPhone 3GS and then the Galaxy Ace is the iPhone 4...), and the people who design the devices and the legal departments are completely unrelated, it's not like each company is some dude who makes every decision.

I had an Advent Vega... Doesn't even begin to compare to this thing... Was fun for modding but to actually use it was a POS... I mean come on, if you're into modding you can put an unfinished homebrew HoneyComb/ICS on it which doesn't support the camera (lol, the nasty VGA thing) or if not you can run the ridiculous stock ROM with inch-thick navigation bar... The accelerometer doesn't even work right. I think I can put up with choppy homescreen transitions...

Not at all, we just can't understand why you don't rid yourself of it and get something else if it makes you so mad. We want you to be happy with whatever device you get but at the same time we don't want to be shouted about at how crappy stuff that we like supposedly is.

Ah yes, I know what you mean. The homescreens move with my finger but they do lose framerate. Never been important to me as homescreens are, erm, they're just to get you into the apps, and you only swipe between them when you want to see your other widgets/icons, it's not like a frequent thing. I find it stutters a LOT worse when using some live wallpapers, make sure you don't use one of them. A lot of the Honeycomb devices I've used do this though. There aren't many I've seen to run the homescreens smoothly without modding. I mean, for me, it's one of the best Android tablets I've used, the form factor, performance (for the size & weight), screen, etc. all come together really nicely. It's only the homescreen that doesn't seem smooth for me...

Have you tried overclocking? I've heard that can fix the issue. I read somewhere that the homescreens don't use hardware acceleration on this tab.

It's HoneyComb's silly 3D screens thing, the way swiping between them has that unnecessary 3D effect, I mean seriously, what is the practical use of that, it uses way more resources and also affects the intuitiveness of using a touch screen (when you keep things "flat", it creates the feeling of sliding something under your fingers, when the 3D comes in it separates it and feels more like minority report 'gestures'), it seems to be pointless showing off and causes a lot of the stuttering on Android tabs.

Also, have you considered giving the Galaxy Tab 10.1 a try? I've read that it runs better and is more compatible. For me no tabs compare to the Samsung ones in design, weight, etc., the performance isn't perfect but it's the kind of sacrifice you make to get something impossibly thin and light.

Yeah but these are all Android 2 devices which run at 800x480...
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] rovex:
I never claimed to be objective, i despise Apple, and im very happy to say why. The galaxys look like an evolution of older Sammy phones and the Tabs look like large versions of them. They didnt copy Apple, call it 'convergent evolution' if you must. Apple are being patent trolls, they started it, the others need to finish it.

I love the look of the 8.9, its lovely, i just want the excessive stutter gone. homescreens are important to Android, its not just about the apps.

I know the Vega is rubbish, but it still manages to be smoother than the Tab.. Thats really sad.

Lower res phones should be smoother yes, but the Galaxy Note is smoother as well, that has the same res. The Xoom is smoother, in fact the 8.9 is the worst T2 powered tab ive used. What i want is ICS with Apex launcher than is smooth and jitter free. A pause or 2 i can handle, but not the gritty jerky laggy mess it currently is. It makes it feel so cheap and low end.

As for the dust, i used a statically charged plastic rod, and managed to make the fleck 'jump' off screen, behind the bezel i guess. It may return but its gone or now.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] sbeddoesdesign:
Well, it's not even worth getting into here, but it's still just a company, no need to take it personally, they all do these same things and our tablets wouldn't exist if iPad didn't, and wouldn't be half as great if they weren't competing with it.

But why? What can you actually do on a homescreen?

Well, only if you mod the crap out of it, and I'm sure you can mod this tab to run better if you overclock it and use the right ROMs and stuff...

And it's running Gingerbread.

And bigger, and heavier.

Good idea! If it comes back you can just do it again. Great thinking though.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] rovex:
Android has widgets, iOS doesnt. iOS's interface is just a basic list of apps. Android has so much more, yes widgets are apps in a sense i suppose, but they are interactive. If their performance is very poor it ruins the experience. Most apps perform ok in themselves, but the homescreen is the face of the device and it must be smooth.

Yes the Vega must be modded to be smooth, but i standby what i said. A Stock Vega is better than a stock 8.9, and ive done everything i can to make this smooth (ROMs, kernels, overclocks, tweaks), its still slower than a modded Vega.

The Note has ICS now and it destroys the 8.9 with ICS builds. The 8.9 feels like a 500mhz single core unit next to a Note. The Note running GB previously doesnt explain why its faster, it should mean its slower!

The Xoom might be heavier but it has no 'performance enhancing' extras that the 8.9 doesnt have, in fact the 8.9 has faster RAM, or at least a better implemented memory subsystem. Its still manages to be slower.

I simply dont accept the answer 'Blame Honeycomb'. If ICS fixes the issues then i believe Samsung must have changed something else, some limitation or previous decision that was hindering the unit.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] sleepyguy007:
Tegra2 for whatever reason is a horrible CPU. I've used a few omap4 tablets and they just seem way smoother than tegra2. I mean a tegra 3 is finally smooth but nvidias cpus seem to be "on paper" good but real world bad each generation. Seem like they come out first with a spec set but poorly implemented once competitors are out. I mean the snapdragon s4 quad will probably destroy tegra 3
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] rovex:
The S4 duals beat the T3!

I knew Tegra was old and slow, but i did think that maybe Samsung would have made the best of the bad CPU, it seems they have made the worst of it.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] poisike:
I have said it countless times, but i will say it again. Only thing different in gt8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees and thats why we have stuttering in landscape. Portrait is perfectly smooth on my GT8.9 running AOSP ICS.

All other Tegra 2 tablets have the same stuttering in portrait, yes it isn't so visible because there is less room to see it when you scroll in portrait, but they all have the same problem. It's a known Tegra2 problem, not unique to gt8.9.

One thing i don't understand is why Samsung choose to rotate the screen, they must have known about the issue...
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] rovex:
This is why im waiting for official ICS, maybe they can correct it or at least reduce it.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] ajneil-co-uk:
maybe its just me...

As soon as I got my 8.9 I slapped go launcher on it because I didn't like the lag. Runs as smooth as silk now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ninjai117:
I notice it less in 4.0.4, but it's still here. Here's what happens:

Sometimes if I have a thread open, I can either start typing and then all typing will stop, or no typing will start from the get go. What I mean is I tap the keys and nothing shows up in the message box. In build 28 I had this happen only from the get go once in a while, now it also happens sometimes when I'm part way through a message. The only way to fix it is by hitting back to go to the main messaging screen and going back to my thread. If I do this with a partially written message then all the text is erased when I go back. Highly annoying.

Has anyone else experienced this, or know of a fix?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cody994:
I have problems with this on my SII, but i ran CM9 for a while and I don't remember it happening there so i think it is AOKP specific.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Theoriginalgiga:
So I apologize if this is the wrong location to post about apps. I was stumbling around in another forum I'm part of (I believe clockcycle is too) and saw a post about a program called 7notes. very nicely written program designed to allow a person to write with their finger on their tablet. I installed it on my note and all I can say is wow! now my handwriting is bad, horrible even and this thing picks it up, it can do writing to text and just strait writing. I'll attach a couple screenshots when I get a chance so you can see how well it picks up handwriting. All in all it's worth the 99 cents. I've been a swiftkey user since their original beta and this app maybe a good alternative if I want to use the stylus.

Link:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...dge.sevennotesproducten&feature=search_result
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] AllGamer:
hand writing recognition... not recondition ;)

but yes, Notes does an awesome job

it's way more sophisticated than back then with the Palm Pilots devices, it the Note really feels like writing on paper, it's totally natural

back in the days with the Palm Pilots and similar devices that followed, even though they worked, it was not natural like writing on paper

you had to either train yourself to write what the device recognized, or train the device to recognize your writing, which was even a harder task; that on its own
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Theoriginalgiga:
thanks for catching that, I'd make up some excuse for using the wrong word, but I'm just an idiot and didn't catch it.

I remember the palm, used to play with them, but I always found handwriting a lot more trouble than it was worth. this progie seems to be smart enough to compensate for my poor penmanship, just not my poor word recognition skills. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] premtim17:
Hello, my Customrom is Now Finisch

Special THX TO

Squadzone

Parasimi

Changelog:

ADD YT

ADD MIUI PLAYER(SHAKE FOR CHANGE MUSIC):eek:

Change Adw launcher To LauncherPRO

ADD voice search

ADD A2SD (ITS WORK FINE)

KERNEL FROM Squadzone

Screenshoots:

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SCREENSHOOT PLS COPIE THE LINK AND ENTER TO YOUR BROWSER

SORRY I FINISCH NOT THE 10 HELPFULL TREADS PLS CLICK ON THX BUTTON FOR I CAN UPLOAD BETTER ;)

WAT IS COOL ON PremY_ROM_Music_R3MIXv1:

Youtube app for HD quality (TEST IT SELF)

APP 2 SD FUNCTION PERFECT

THERE IS NOTHING BUGS :eek:

I work now for the Version 2

Download mediafire.com/?8ao5ali45t5626c

FOLLOW MY SITE: mp-tutorials.de.tl

Sorry for my bad englisch englisch

Pls dont forget to click on the THX button for my work :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] iamnimit:
dude, post some screenshots........
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] premtim17:
my customrom

You must copy the directupload link and enter from your brwoser.:D

Sorry i can not post Screenshoots i have complet the 10 helpfull question.:(
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] iamnimit:
lol.. kk

i dont need any donations... ;-) but i do need THANKS to my posts... :-P
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] nganipcuy:
is more like CM7... :rolleyes:

but keep going!

i like more developer on mini :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] premtim17:
My customrom

THX I work now for a new Customrom i maded.

The name is GalaxyXForcetm its on version 1 and VERY FASSSST:eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] DQiB:
Premi dann lass mich mal ein blick drauf werfen was der alex da noch alles an performance rausholen kann ne:D:D:D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] acervenky:
Keep up ur good work.Keep posting:)
[HTC Wildfire S] ONeill123:
Hello Guys,

This installer is based on:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24490174

Download:

http://marvelics.bplaced.net/_old/auto/RUU.exe
[HTC Wildfire S] eoghan2t7:
That's just genius I never thought about doing a rom installer like that ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] ONeill123:
And what does you mean?

P.S.: In theorie it is possible to install each rom with this method ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] eoghan2t7:
Its a complament lol in case you thought I meant you stole my idea or something lol
[HTC Wildfire S] ONeill123:
No :) I never thought that ;)

I mean, the first look, the handling and so on, maybe the function. What can be better and so on... :D
[HTC Wildfire S] SanderTheNinja:
Cool! Very clever!
[HTC Wildfire S] aigaming:
Nice,you just seat back and relax while rom installs through few clicks ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] eoghan2t7:
Oh I haven't used it due to cm9 stuff :D
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
Don't bother telling me ONeill :D

If you would have PM'ed me earlier I could have posted this :)

May I ask what options does it choose for you and is it configurable for different devices. Also what version of .sense is it?
[HTC Wildfire S] ONeill123:
Is it the beta 2.0.1 version with the OC Kernel ;)

And it can be used for every HTC device. You can reinsert another system.img so you can use every Rom you ever had ;)

More you find here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24490174
[HTC Wildfire S] csoulr666:
@ONeill123-plz advise people to wipe data before using this......i got stuck at the boot animation while installing....It booted completely only on wiping data
[HTC Wildfire S] ONeill123:
No,

and the answer to the question why:

because this installer is like a RUU (Rom Update Utility). That means, that your data has to be stored to use in the newer version of the rom, too. Without backup or something else.

ONeill
[HTC Wildfire S] csoulr666:
I think the problem might be that I used this installer over CM7...can't think of anything else
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xur17:
Does anyone have experience using Google Voice without a data plan? My sister just bought a phone to use with Page Plus, and is porting her number to Google Voice.

Do calls work correctly without data? I read a while back that Google implemented a feature in the Google Voice app that downloads the direct access numbers for all of your contacts when you first install the app. How does it handle new numbers that you dial?

Is there a good way to text people without saving their Google Voice "proxy" number, and still have it come from your Google Voice number, without using data?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k_t_b:
I use Sipdroid with Google Voice on my tablet.

Inbound and outbound calls over WIFI work pretty well for me. I just dial regular phone numbers.

I've never really used texting with Google Voice.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] u4david:
google voice pay as you go no data plane

Does anyone have recommendation on how to set this up to play somewhat reasonable all together.

I know functionality will be limited when no Wi-Fi is available but......

Text >GV>T-mob carrier>my phone

Call>GV>answer

- yes>got the call

-no> be able to see voice mail notification an call to check the voice mail
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] oikhlail11:
so here are some things i found that helped me out hopefully they can help you im using romracers unsecured kernel.

download v6 super from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991276

or just change your min free memory values as follows:

foreground applications=8mb

visible applications=16mb

secondary server=200mb

hidden applications=220mb

content provider=240mb

empty applications=275mb

after debloating and freezing apps/processes, this will drop your ram use im getting 234/780 mb thats 546 mb of free ram!

fell free to drop wifi scan interval if you would like i believe the lower the value the better, i think it should be pretty low though stock

also you should drop the vm heap its HUGGE! im using 150 feel free to try any value between 50-250 and last but not least tweak your kernel

to up threshold of 75 and a power saving bias of 100 ( no larger than 200) min free KBytes should be set to 40960, dirty ratio 20, rty backround ratio 5, vfs cache pressure 100...apply these settings to boot; and always remember if your not using it turn it off!(i.e data, bluetooth, wifi, gps) try these out hope it helps remmeber to always practice safe nandroid and im not responsible for you bricking your device. i wanted to venture into undervolting but im to chicken can someone confirm that it works with skyrocket? thanks! and let me know what you guys think i take no credit i just used our friend google =) much love for all the xda community!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cuban88:
phone not charging

I installed V6 Super and now my battery won't charge...any ideas?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tomtommy306:
I replied to your thread.... please read before posting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] KryptosXLayer2:
But seriously.... can we get a little more information here on this besides saying "do this, change that" - where? with what app? just adding in details on the steps you used in the OP would be great, really looking to get more than 12 hours out of my 2100 mAh extended battery over here!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
Yea which apps are you using for all this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bostonirishguy13:
Looks like Rom Toolbox has all these areas to tweak available.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] edgex:
Does this mesh well with mhx's rom? what about the 3g supercharger and the other one? anyone tested it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] odeccacccp:
secondary server=200mb

hidden applications=220mb

content provider=240mb

empty applications=275mb

Something is up with these settings, the maz value for it is 120mb, how do you want to set it over 200's???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] goldillo:
secondary server=0mb

hidden applications=20mb

content provider=40mb

empty applications=75mb

This is the correct configuration :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Mafioso_atl:
I'm going to use rom toolbox to adjust the settings. Hope it helps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TheSeanTeam:
Did it help?