yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] guai11:
NO!

It will never be the final until phone function works!:D

cheer up dude~:good:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] killerskincanoe:
curious if anyone could give me their thoughts on how this HC rom stacks up against stock HC... is it way better? is most things functioning.. i have wifi only so phone doesn't matter to me.. mainly gps cams and wifi are what i'm worried about.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
It might not mean as much coming from the DEV, but if you read a few pages back you will see multiple reviews about how much the speed and reliability has been increased :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah its completely stable and the fastest honeycomb ROM hands down. If lag is your biggest gripe but you don't want to wait for Chaoses ics Rom to be perfected then this Rom is for you
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Latest Version within 30 mins :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
This Rom will be the reason I'm not cutting my losses for a nexus :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Uploading NOW .......

Few things need sorting still, i will be uploading a 4.1 tomorrow dinner time:)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] shadow78:
Is there a link yet?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Apologies there is not yet, will be later tonight had some family business to sort out apologies

EDIT : RE-UPLAODING, sorry had some family stuff to sort out :) Hope you all like it:)

Couple of minor changes, - Tidied the ZIP up alot now only 289MB, got rid of all HTC WIDGETS, and HTC Animations
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
V4 download link

Hi All

Apologies for the delay below is V4, please give me feedback and thanks if you like my work :)

http://d-h.st/12g

I will be following this with some themes tomorrow :) and a 4.0.1 patch for a couple of minor tweaks :)

At the moment on first boot you need to select the keyboard manually before it will appear through settings ---> Language and Input ----> Android Keyboard

The above will be repaired tomorrow :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Installed and running fine, so what's changed?

EDIT: I noticed the lockscreen is still sense. I'm currently looking through a galaxy tab 7.0 Plus rom trying to find the lockscreen apk for my experiment. Stupid question time where is the apk located at exactly?

double edit: Samsung must have named it something, or I just don't know what the default google name is, and the google search is just bringing up "how to use widget locker" lol.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bucklee:
leedroid tweaks FC's when you try to use in quick menu.

Edit,

I thought you included LeedroidTweak in your ROM but I guess it is still there from my previous install. Did a factory reset and all. Wonder what's the deal.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Gumby63:
There is no lockscreen.apk in AOSP HC. It's all framework unfortunately.

Deleting htc's does not get you the stock lockscreen like most HTC phones. I tried to get it working, I tried lots of experimenting with smali and framework jars and still couldn't figure it out. Even got other devs to look at it and still got nothing. It would take someone with lots of experience to figure it out. Or so I think lol.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] thewadegeek:
DO you know where the lockring images are located?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Gumby63:
The HTC lock screen or the AOSP lock screen?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah i remember you had issues with it. I had this brilliant idea that maybe I could swap apks with another hc tablet with the same screen resolution, guess that explains why that wouldn't work lol. I am taking up an interest in development just not sure where to start figured taking a crack at the lock screen might be a good way to start.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] thewadegeek:
In the HTC lockscreen?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
honeycomb is definitely weird. it's missing features that were built into android before it ie folder support, power control widget etc. It's almost as if google built it from scratch and then later merged gingerbread with it and made a "sandwhich"
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Gumby63:
Well HTC's lockscreen images are weird. They are locate in Idlescreen_base/blank/weather/shortcut.apk in a special format called m10 that only HTC uses. These files can't be decompiled normally to get to the images. You need a program called m10tools which was created by someone on XDA solely for this purpose. However, this tool only works on sense 3.0 and I think 2.1. therefore we can't change any of the images for the lockscreen. Same goes for Rosie and most of the HTC widgets. Sorry for the long explanation lol.

tl;dr You can't get to the HTC lockscreen images.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] thewadegeek:
Really? I thought M10 was the same file type across all versions...huh. That's good to know. So I guess we need to find where in the framework we reference those files and start from there. If we could write a smali function that would call the standard lockscreen.apk then it would at lest give us a start!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Sounds like a lost cause then almost.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Gumby63:
Well that's the thing. There is no apk for the stock lockscreen. It's all integrated into the framework from what I understand. To be honest, all the smali stuff is over my head but I don't think writing a smali file is what needs to be done. It's all there, but it has been modified by HTC. I remember finding that out while digging around. I tried removing instances of htclockscreen in pretty much every appropriate file with no luck and sometimes causing bootloops. Like I said, it's over my head. If my flyer's screen wasn't broken and if it wasn't partially bricked I'd try again :(

I'm hoping that *maybe* when the m10tools are updated for Sense 3.6 and 4.0 that it will work on our old "1.0 for tablets..."

But then again I don't want to get my hopes up too high lol
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
The M10 tools appear to be working correctly to decompile it, however i am not sure what it should look like so :/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13407763

I am quite impressed DL Link has been up for less than 12 hours and already 65 downloads :) I didn't realize that many people were using the ROM

@Cor-Master I am working on making the Stock Setup Wizard Work and also working on fixing the keyboard properly, these items will be released on a 4.1 download link later, this will require a wipe however it will make the ROM look much more like stock AOSP rather than all HTC'd up, also i want to find a way to change the settings options for the AOSP Settings however so far not much look,

@Gumby Any ideas?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
New kernel

New Kernel will be with us shortly thanks to a brilliant Anonymous Kernel Developer,

Features

HW Keys

Possible Phone

Overclocking

I will keep you all updated and i take no credit AT ALL for this Kernel, however it will be exclusive to this ROM of Senseless Beauty
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Wow I have to say verison 4 is insanly fast, hard to believe this thing only has a Snapdragon s2. This is ioiwillioi's take on "project butter" no doubt.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Cant believe i am so out of the loop lmao i just had to google "Project Butter" bare in mind i had safe search off i got results with women with butter spread on them :/ but eventually i got to the correct results, glad you like it shame no one else mentions it lol i have had 72 downloads and only 1 comment :)

Do you want to test something for me Cor-Master?

Also you think this is fast i have actaully forgotten to incorporate some of my tweaks unfortunately, they will be available soon once i have finished adding them to the ROM, also hopefully within the next 2 or 3 days we will have a new Kernel - (Hoping to have Overclock Ability)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Sure I'm up for testing.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
I ll send you a pm with a link in a second i want you to check a couple of tweaks and the stock Setup Wizard :)

Itll be about 10 mins :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
K should I just wipe cache and install or full wipe?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Full Wipe if you dont mind :)

Just creating the new website :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
no problem, I just ran TB last night anyway just in case flashing 4 on top of what I had screwed up the tablet.

Download is going kind of slow, I may have to just let it download and walk away and flash later.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
New website

IM going to take this oppertunity to ask you all if you would come and register on my website, there will be exclusive themes etc for members and you will get releases of ROM's before the rest of the Community.

SENSELESS DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
something must be up with your hosting site today, because I downloaded Senseless 4 final yesterday within a couple minutes, today I just came back to my PC to check the download and I'm at 229 of 282. Maybe they are doing maintenance or something today. I'll report as soon as it finishes and I get it installed

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BTW just tried to register for your site, never got the verification e-mail, checked my spam folder, its not there.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
k got it installed, boots fine but just goes to a screen with no images. has the default blue htc background and an all black action bar with no information or buttons. Take it this is the lock screen? I think I remember gumby having that issue
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
OK no problem thank you for testing I got similar results

You will have to reflash v4 now :/ Sorry I will try sort this out though really want it fixed :)

New kernel comes soon :) overclockable etc :) should be ready tomorrow :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
no problem I made a nandroid backup before I flashed, restoring that now :-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rayuken:
Thx for the Rom, love it!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
k nandroid worked like a charm, everything is back as it should be
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
downloading v4 now :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] shadow78:
Nice improvement its run very smooth.. but im still waiting for a kind of final version. HW keys would be important for me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
New kernel arrives tomorrownhopefullynwith HW keys and overclocking :) will build it into the ROM and upload as soon as I can :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I'd give up on hw keys. Honeycomb doesn't support them and the roms that do dont do them justice anyway. holding down home should bring up multitasking and it doesn't work and the action bar stays on the screen regardless so there almost isn't any point anyway
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
The hw keys are good and can be added by the kernel tweaks we've already got them working :) and there is an app to clear the bottom bar and use just the HW keys which I will add as an optional download :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
cool :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I just found both threads for Nova and Apex launcher, told them they need to support honeycomb lol. Seriously would be a great bonus for this rom. Man I need to learn how to develop, one of the ideas I had was making us a Flyer specific launcher, completely optimized for the hardware that's based off ICS and has theme support, and lost of customization options.

Where do I start?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
I know the answer is in this forum, but I just looked around and couldn't find the threads in the time my attention span would allow. I wanna say Android hacking & development... I too have aspirations to become a dev, and actually have most of the tools installed, but don't have the time outside of looking for a job, handling my own 3 kids, and helping my fiancée with her daycare... I'm envious of those who have the knowledge & time!

\\Carved into this thread with my RAZR//

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
My download failed last night. Will download again in the evening today.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
@lekwhani I would wait as I am going to release another version tonight with some amazing speed tweaks and performance changes ;)

Yesbthats right 4.1 will be released tonight :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] arthurson:
i didn't test it, and i wanna know two things before downloading.

1, does it has green phone button on dial screen ?

2, will it sleep within 15 seconds after making call ?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] frank_oli:
I agree!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
At the moment there is no phone functionality but there will be soon once the new kernel is completed, and i am working on the phone and dialer APK's to resolve this issue :)

The sleep within 15 seconds is not something that happens with this ROM, that is something to do with LeeDroids kernel i believe and this is the stock kernel at the moment and i have no plans to put these tweaks into the Kernel before compiling
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
New features

I am planning to add the Following features to the kernel

OTA Updates :) (Via an APK)

V6 Supercharger Tweaks

Possibly compile kernel using Linaro Toolchain (Supposed to give performance boosts) - NOT TESTED YET

Try and compile the Kernel Using Cygwin (No benefit to it just an experiment) :)

Add AROMA Installer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JOLiu:
Ioiwillioi,

A few questions about your new ROM.

I just flashed your final 4.0 build, and I understand that you intend on releasing a new 4.1 build tonight. Will that require a full wipe or will I be able to just clear cache & dalvik cache? Just curious as to whether to do a full Titanium Backup of my system apps and settings.

Also, as to your website, I registered yesterday but never received an email confirmation.

As to the 4.0 build itself, I've only been running it since yesterday, but so far so great! I have a wifi only Flyer, and the tab has been running quick. Other than LeeDroid Tweaks force closing, everything else seems to be working just fine. However, I am not a power user like many of you seem to be. I use my tablet primarily for reading ebooks (Aldiko), emails, web browsing, some netflix and some games (only have about 30 apps installed). Edit - I did notice yesterday that Dolphin Browser would not connect to the server to let me sign in and sync my bookmarks. Not sure if this is a ROM or Dolphin issue. I also noted that browsing on Dolphin was oftentimes slower than on the stock browser. However, this was an issue that I had previously noticed on other ROMs. Could be a Dolphin issue as opposed to a ROM one.

One thing I noticed (and I've noticed this on other ROMs as well), but on the bottom of the screen, to the left of the clock and wifi signal, there is a blue/grey horizontal line. I should have taken a screen capture, but do you know what that might be? Did I just screw something up with the settings?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
just flash lee droid tweaks from recovery and the fc will cease. I noticed it myself, my guess is something was left out of the build. I was being lazy and instead of figuring out wat was missing I just flashed the entire package, although I believe the app was missing from the draw.

There is a thread for it in development
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JOLiu:
Thanks! Just wanted to give the dev a heads-up as to items on the ROM that were giving me minor issues.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mectavo:
I also got that issues:angel:

Is it this package?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1565572

Still waiting for a amazing 4.1~~
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JOLiu:
yes - that is the correct package. Just go into recovery and flash.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Sorry has been held up , may be able to release tonight but most likely tomorrow AM

I will upload the apk now
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I flashed gumbys ics theme over top as soon as I flashed the newest version, so I don't notice any lines lol
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Wiley87:
This rom sounds very impressive. My ffriend is getting tired of his flyer and this seems to be the answer. 4.1 tomorrow you say?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Should be yes' tell your friend to try this, hopefully hit will breath life back into his device :)

SADLY the new kernel has fallen through as I was let down by a developer, however I am downloading the source to try and do this myself :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
New kernel

OK, so the new kernel is going well (im building it :) )

So Far

Added Overclocking (thanks to LeeDroids Kernel) - However i have made some slight tweaks to make it more reliable :)

Adding some more governors tomorrow :)

Going to look into adding Phone Functionality

Anyone know how to do HW Lights ?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JOLiu:
Here's a photo of that blue/grey horizontal line next to the clock. What is that?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] equi_design:
I believe that is your "notifications off" icon. If you have LeeDroid's Tweaks installed, just untick the Notifications checkbox. :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JOLiu:
Good lord - you were right! Thanks for pointing that out. That line was driving me nuts.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
First build of the new kernel is complete, new additions to the Governors Enabled HW Keys,

Working on :

Phone Functionality

Overclocking

EDIT:

FIRST ONE BUILT AND WORKING
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] shadow78:
Is there a download link for the new rom with the new kernel?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
Not yet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Ok, so Senseless v4.1.0 is now ready :)

I have added multiple speed tweaks and used an auto pstcher script to optimize and modify all system apps for beeter speed and responsiveness :)

I guarantee you will all notice the difference, also I have changed the keyboard fix and that is now resolved properly so it works from the word go.

However the new kernel is not ready, I will release this as soon as I have ironed out some issues (thewadegeek) is helping me.

Oh whilst I remember I seem to have a lot of users for this ROM and quite a bit of positive feedback but hardly any thanks :( ( not begging, just letting you know) ;)

Download Link.

Some themes will appear tomorrow either on here or the website but I will let you guys know :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JOLiu:
iowillioi

I believe I raised this before, but I registered for your site but never received a confirmation email.

EDIT: Nevermind, I registered again. This time, the confirmation email came immediately.

EDIT 2: iowillioi, your post above (#257) references a download link but does not actually link to anything.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Link is there now :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] asopasomaso:
Downloading now.

I wonder if the new kernel is included in this or not.

Anyway, thank you very much for your dedication and hard work!

I've already tried 4.0.0 and found it impressively fast.

I hope that it will be able to replace Lee's ROM:D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mectavo:
iowillioi, thank you for your outstanding work.

I believe after a few while you will get more and more thanks for the good 4.x~

PS: Just realized the "thanks" means the thanks button...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Yes, i remember that i didnt know that when i started out in the forum which believe it or not is let than a year, i only know because i saw it on someones signature/
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Unfortunately the kernel is not in there yet but a lot of speed tweaks are, so its got even faster :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mectavo:
I think for now it already as good as LeeDrOid or maybe better.

I got bluetooth issues on LeeDrOid HC and Senseless solved it though bluetooth mic still can`t work in skype. But I think this maybe an app relative bug.

For the all wifi reconnection issues. Just modify the wifi network and set the ip setting as static will solve that. Works for me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Apologies People jsut removed the link for 4.1.0 as i have just noticed a bug, i will re upload within 20 mins with that bug fixed, Sorry
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
New Download Link 4.1.1

Download Link Enjoy

http://d-h.st/hph
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sb3n2:
Start downloading, thanks for Your great work ioiwillioi. :laugh:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mectavo:
Downloaded and installed. So far so good.

Noticing in the battery usage tab, it shows cell standby cost 76% power...but my flyer is a wifi only model. Does that matter?

ps: The ics browser is awesome, pretty fast. However the bookmarks don't seem sync with google account.^_^
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
OK :) thank you for the feedback, I have just thought and I will release a WIFI only version later :) or release an update.zip :)

Will keep you informed :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
WEBSITE

Hi All,

Unfortunately the website i created the other day is not going to be good enough for our needs, however i have spoken to some guys that i know that do web hosting and they are able to offer me unlimited webhosting package, so i will being builing a website again, that way the downloads will be much quicker and can be directly linked :)

Thanks for your patience :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
The 3G remover thats posted here somewhere works great. I'd give you a link but I'm on my phone.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mectavo:
Fond it here. gonna have a try:fingers-crossed:

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Thanks;) That`s cool~
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sb3n2:
The rom is fantastic! Thanks man! Only a question: phone functionality works in this update? I can't receive calls. Thanks
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JOLiu:
See this post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1518326
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
May want to update thread title to list current version

Flyer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] indiziert:
Anyone can confirm this? Working Mic with Bluetooth headset for phone calls?

If yes, then senseless maybe the replacement for my Lee's HC.

Nice work!

Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah I got it saved on my root directory on my sd card. I use it after every rom flash

Sent from my VTC HIVID using the xda app
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sb3n2:
Solved, sorry... :p
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
Does it work now??
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sb3n2:
Yes, thanks. I had not change the value of ro.phone.function... :p
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
So then, ROM is workomg OK for everyone!??

If not let me know what's not working right :) and also let me know if you want anything changed

Also quick question: if I was to ask for donations, would anyone give them??
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah I'd donate. Just upgraded btw, working so far.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sb3n2:
I can donate you, not so much, but i can.

Btw I've a problem with the dialer. The icon is present in the app drawer, the phone calls start from the device but I can't speak or hear nothing, when I receive a call the ringtones doesn't starts.

Also the graphic is strange: I see the word "Wrong" in red instead of the call buttons
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Hey ioiwilioi I'm sure you already know but I thought I might play with the hardware buttons, and you can turn them on but they don't work. Everything else so far seems to be working fine
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IOIDroid:
They are within the kernel and I am working on that :) I have decided that the new kernel does not require overclocking as this seems to run @ lightening speed already :) so I will work on HW buttons and phone properly hopefully to be released tomorrow :)

Seen as though people seem okay with it I will donate
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
ok that makes sense. Cool. I never really cared much about them until I discovered how much better games are without the bar in the way, using an app I found on the market to hide the bar.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GMAN1722:
being that this is a senseless rom does that mean that the pen and Mhl does not work?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Both work. This is "senseless", not aosp