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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] curgervending:
I believe that the HPSA+21 on AT&T versus HSPA+42 on T-mobile is due to their different network builds (T-Mobile enhanced their network to support HSPA+42, AT&T did not). As far as the device is concerned, the AT&T Note has the hardware to physically get HSPA+42 speeds. I once (with the Blaze ICS modem and CM9 ROM) got about 18.5mbps on the download and 3.5mbps on the upload (that's ballpark what I was getting on another HSPA+42 device - the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2). However, when I travel to a different part of town,or even reboot my AT&T Note the speed drops dramatically. So, because I got as high as 18.5mbps on the download once, it appears that the AT&T Note can achieve HSPA+42 speeds. I don't think you can get as high as 18.5mbps on the download on an HSPA+21 network in the real world (please correct me if I'm wrong). So I definitely believe I was on HSPA+42 when I hit 18.5mbps on the download.

Bottom line is I think we might actually achieve the HSPA+42 speeds using the T-Mobile Note radio file (cannot be 100% sure until we actually get a dump of the radio file and flash it onto the device). This MAY (or may not) be the last resort in our attempts to achieve HSPA+42 speeds on the AT&T Note. If this doesn't work, I don't know what else will. Collectively, we seem to have tried everything with mixed results at best. I've looked through this (and other) forums for months and have yet to find anyone getting HSPA+42 speeds on a consistent basis (some have gotten 3G speeds consistently but they were exceptions and not the norm - most of us get a mix between 3G and Edge speeds).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Young Cardiac:
Anyone wanna do the honours?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Alicklee:
Omg so downloading this when i get home later this evening
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
A lot more steps in downloading the Samsung Kies update method. Dont know if I want to be the first one to brick my at&t note lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Alicklee:
guess you would to download then rip the file and then take the ril files out of it then I though that should be about!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
I dont think it is that easy.......it's never that easy.

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We need Jeet on this......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Young Cardiac:
Keep the updates coming :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Walmart is selling the T-Mobile version NO CONTRACT for $350...tempting to just buy that and try to sell the AT&T Note for around that price.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeet92:
Guys is 350 no contract or free with contract at Walmart online. So if anyone wants to pick one up so we can get the work started. Let's go.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
LINK PLEASE!!! I can't find it on Walmart's website. If this is true I'll sell the Note today on Craigslist.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
http://wireless.walmart.com/search/?wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=17718659500917848679&keyword=note&image.x=0&image.y=0&image=Go&veh=aff

I just bought one, just too bad it is Black and not White like my AT&T version. I can always return the Walmart one if the new radio work on the AT&T version. Dont open the package though.

Keep in mind this might be a price mistake and our orders wont be ship.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG. Should I sell the AT&T one now? I'm just afraid that it'll take forever to get root for this thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
LOL at least wait until it actually shipped to your house. It could be a price mistake and they wont ship you anything. Then you can decide if you want to sell it. I'm sure plenty of AT&T customers will buy the White note around $400.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] daminux:
i sure will but how lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
You have the phone in your procession right now?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] daminux:
i have my galaxy note att , but cant i install the tmobile update like the othe person says and see what happens but it is with kies and i dont think kies would let me do the update
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
I just cancelled my Walmart order of the T-Mobile Note as I got my AT&T Note for $200 from a relative and I'm hoping that the T-Mobile Roms/radios will be imported into the AT&T version soon. PLus the Blaze radio have been working flawlessly for the last two days so I'm hoping if anythng that will work.

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Yeah I tried that earlier and I'm at a dead stop right now. Cant get it to connect to my phone and they want SN# of the phone to download firmware...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
It won't let me buy it now, I think they made a mistake on the pricing and fixed it. Too good to be true I suppose.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Yeah they just fixed it, what took you so long to order?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
I hate impulse buying, couldn't make the decision, wasn't sure what the return policy was incase it didn't work out for whatever reason. They probably wouldn't have shipped it anyway, says so in the policy at the bottom of the page.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Ahh you could have asked me here. A lot of the times if you want a good deal you have to impulse buy. Walmart usually have a good return policy.

Return Policy:

RETURN & EXCHANGE POLICY FOR WIRELESS DEVICES WITHOUT A SERVICE ACTIVATION

Cell phones, PDAs, and netbooks purchased without service activation may be returned or exchanged within 14 days of purchase, only if the package has not been opened and the seal has not been broken (see Non-returnable Items, below). If, for any reason, you are not satisfied with your purchase and wish to return or exchange your device for credit or for a different model, please do not open the sealed packaging or use the device.

You must contact our Customer Service department within 14 days of the process date shown on your sales receipt to obtain a Return Authorization (RA) number. To be eligible to receive a 100% refund of your purchase price (excluding shipping and processing fees), you must ensure that we receive the original unopened package in new condition within 7 days of receiving your RA number. Return shipping is the responsibility of the customer.

NOTE: If your order included an airtime refill card, it must also be returned in original condition. Airtime refill cards are non-returnable if the PIN has been revealed.

Once we receive your original device and verify that it is in original, unopened and undamaged condition, we will issue a credit. Acceptable exchanges will be processed as soon as your original device is received and inspected. If the sealed packaging has been opened, it will not be accepted for a return or exchange unless the equipment is deemed to be defective. In such cases you will receive an email from us with a detailed explanation. Once equipment is received and processed, it cannot be returned to the customer.

To receive credit for your return, please follow these steps:

Call our Customer Service department at the toll free number found on your sales receipt included in the box to obtain a Return Authorization (RA) number. Returns must be requested within 14 days of your process date shown on your sales receipt.

Address your package to the following address. Be sure to remove or black-out any previously used shipment labels.

Fulfillment Center

9301 Peppercorn Place

Largo, MD 20774

Place all items as originally packaged in the shipping box and seal the box with shipping tape. Be sure that any literature, airtime cards, batteries, and accessories are also included with your phone and make a copy of your invoice and RA number for your records. All merchandise must be returned in original, new condition.

Promptly ship your package - we must receive your return within 7 days of receiving your RA number or you may not be able to receive a full credit.

NOTE: If the sealed packaging has been opened or punctured, or your device has been used in any manner, your device will not be accepted for a return or exchange unless the equipment is deemed to be defective.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Young Cardiac:
Lets not get caught in the semantics when we have a bigger issue at hand here with the radio.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Trust me, if Walmart do ship those phones to all those that ordered, we will benefit as more Devs will have the phone and more people wanting roms = better for AT&T users such as us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
That's the part that worried me and why I didn't just buy it right off the bat. Oh well, something else will come along.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Yeah, save your money for the Note 2 :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeet92:
the moment someone gets the t-mobile note and contacts me. I will get an unsecure kernel built for you guys to root permanently so we can pull those files. Just need to ask the right kernel devs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerrybritt:
Don't Get Excited about the T-Mobile Radio

I work in the Addison, Texas area. I have an AT&T, unlocked running The Collective Rom and the BlazeICS modem. I just purchased the T-Mobile Galaxy Note, got them side by side for the past hour and the AT&T Note, running the Blaze ICS modem, has thus far smoked the T_Mobile stock Galaxy Note. The speeds on the AT&T ranged from 7 - 11 down while the T-Mobile Stock ranged from 0.89 to 4.5 down. There was one brief moment where the T-Mobile did test 3 times in the 9 range down but then slipped back down.

I ran these side by side for an hour. They are currently both charging, will run again tonight and compare speeds. I will then switch sim cards and see what the results might be. I will keep everyone posted. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
The thing is that I bought the AT&T Note off Craiglist a little over a month ago for $375 before all these Note 2 rumors really started, so I really could be just fine if I resell it for about the same amount and pick up the TMO Note for under $350.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] daminux:
note 2 ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
Going to be announced August 29th. Don't expect it to get to the US any time soon though, as the first Note was announced September 1, 2011, and it took until February for it to even reach AT&T, much less TMO.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] daminux:
wow , is there a page to see it spec
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
Nothing solid yet, just rumors. Expect something like the Galaxy SIII since the Note is basically a Galaxy SII with a larger screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
You two should talk privately and get us some radio files. :highfive:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
U and Jeet need to hook up and help us pull the modem/radio files to test?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
There was an update release today, see if that will fix the speed issue?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerrybritt:
I sent him a PM

I sent him a PM. I am not a dev so do not know how to help but will do what I can. As I said in my post, I was not impressed at all with the speed of the T-Mobile Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ntellegence:
The note, skyrocket and Hercules were all made during the tmo att merger. They are (don't quote me on the name) pentile phones. They support att and tmo frequencies. The radio/modem makes it work on a specific carrier (not talking sim unlock). I use the blaze ICS modem in the op. Jeet (applause) modified the blaze radio (tmo) to work on the note and access the "4g" frequency of tmo.

foil trick. Take off the back and place a thin piece of foil from the s pen, under the speaker all the way across. I believe that is where the antenna is. Replace the cover making sure the foil doesn't move. I believe the thread was called better speeds on your note. He has pics I think.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Thank you. Your test results are strange....Hopefully it is simple enough for you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
My biggest issue is the upload speed... thats horrendous!

When u have a Tmobile phone like a S2 to test speeds side by side and see what a huge difference it is... thats even worst
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Maybe the grass isn't greener on the other side. Maybe the Note just suck on T-Mobile network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
then ill be selling this thing lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Why did you purchase it for, considering you have the att version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
He probably did what I did and saw that you could just flash a TMO radio on it and use it for TMO.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] daminux:
can it be done ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
I had the S2 with Tmobile... and I wanted the Note so I read it was unlockable, not knowing the speed issues of course.

I mean I love the Huge phone just hate the speed!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Have Jeet contacted you yet? I remembered seeing him showing someone else how to get the files. Let me look back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
Thats "jerrybritt" that has the TMobile Note...... I dont know how long I can wait with this sh*tty reception lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
lol my bad...

I think XDA needs to put up an official T-Mobile Note thread for there to be any action.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerrybritt:
Jeet & I are in contact with each other.

Just to let you guys know that Jeet got back to me with a couple of questions. I answered them and waiting on his response. The question about bricking got my attention but what the heck - let's see if we can help everyone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
Thanks for helping us out... really appreciate u doing this!

U can brick any phone if u dont do it right....scary lol

But u can do it!

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What ROM does everyone recommend with using TMobile?

I am using Saurom, its cool but id love to know what peoples opinions are?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Every rom threads have that Brick warning. I'm not saying it wont happen, just a precautionary. Good luck I hope tomorrow when I wake up there will be a new radio.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
so are you guys gonna try just the radio or a full on ROM flash?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] adiprince1:
I wouldnt mind flashing the full rom once its avaliable for download.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] diamantericos:
What would be the point unless its tweaked . Test have should that the Att brain has slightly higher benchmarks the ROMs we have now are pretty great I think most of us just want the radio first rom can come after
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
FULL freaken rom, my work place sucks because it was built like a fort and cant get any reception, so wifi calling will be great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] diamantericos:
I guess WiFi calling will be the only reason for a full ROM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deliriousbb:
I believe Jeet is a girl.

Btw, the bricking is a warning on practically every custom ROM.

Can you confirm that the hardware is the same as the i717?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] diamantericos:
But isn't it easier to pull the radio first ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Hoepfully they are separate files and not one where it will need a dev to dig through and converts it.

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It's hard to confirm the exact hardware, unless he takes both phones apart and read the part numbers on the chips.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] diamantericos:
Is that the normal
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] daminux:
is there a download for the rom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Tried using Check Fus Downloader, but they haven't listed the T-Mobile version yet, so therefore I couldn't pull the firmware upgrades.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeet92:
1. I'm not a female, sorry to ruin your fantasies.

2. In search of a kernel guy, if anyone knows some kernel Dev willing to help let me know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
LoL fantasy ruined.

Let me guess you two were able to extract the files, but thr files need to be convrrted. What will you need them to do? So i can ask them if they want to help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerrybritt:
Nothing started yet

We have not started anything as of yet. Jeet is looking for a dev to make an insecure kernal. That is all I know.

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Tonight, as promised, I tested the phones again, just as I did earlier today. This time, and I am 9 miles further north, the TMobile Note outperformed the AT&T note. No blow-away but still better results. I then switched sim cards, using the same sim card that was in the AT&T note. The results still showed the TMobile Note performing better than the AT&T Note. None of the results have been mind blowing but I feel comfortable that the TMobile Note will provide better performance than the AT&T unlocked Note using the BlazeICS modem.

That is it so far.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sashusmom:
looks very promising. Fingers Crossed.:fingers-crossed:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Alicklee:
OMG the wait is driving me mad!!!! lol I hope something comes up soon :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sazfar13:
Looks to me the performance is dependent on your location. Where were you when you tested the 2 phones the first time?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerrybritt:
Where was I -

I was in Addison, Dallas North Tollway and Arapaho Road
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] babymatteo:
Texas is definitely the best area where Tmobile's HSPA+ prevails. When we drove to Corpus Christi from San Diego, i was able to get around 30mbps down and 4mbps up. Incredible. But this was using my S3 tho.

I definitely can't wait for an official tmo radio for the Note, so i can start using it again :highfive:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Damn 30 mbps? I can only get that through wifi. I dont think I can go smaller screen after using the Note, my next phone will probably be the Note 2 or any other brand with larger screen plus better price than samsung. It always take XDA a week to start up new thread for new phones?

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Have you tried rooting your t-Mobile version using the at&t method?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
Same here. I'll stick with the phone through the problems just because I love it. I don't really NEED 4G data speeds honestly, it's just nice to have. I'm on WiFi most of the time when I really need any kind of download speed anyway. The biggest things I need that I'm hoping I'll get with the TMO radio is voice stability on AOSP ROMs, and working GPS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sashusmom:
Hi guys! My ATT note with the tmobile hack and the foil mod gets great 4g downspeed (> 10 in the red zone)that blows my wifi away (3-5). The upload speeds on tmo 4g is less than 1- (.3-.7). It would be great for the official tmobile radio to improve up speeds for me. Looking forward to it!

Presently I have shelved my note and am using my galaxy nexus. Would love to flip flop them depending on where I am going. They both have great features.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
YAWN.....Nothing again today...At least Pandora have been getting consistence data for the last few days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerrybritt:
No Love for T-Mobile Galaxy Note

:( There is little to nothing happening for the "new" T-Mobile Galaxy Note. No root, no CWM, obviously no ROMs and no discussion. I guess when you are the smallest of the national carriers, this is what you can expect. As I have stated, Jeet and I are in communication but he is waiting for a dev to step up before we try to pull the files needed to get the true T-Mobile radio. Other than that, we wait. I have 20 days to see if the speed is that much greater before I commit or return this and continue to use my AT&T unlocked Note on the T-Mobile network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
I looked forward to the 8th for WEEKS!!!

I really hope something comes thru soon... i'm sure its getting worked on, so id rather not press anyone lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
Mine's in the mail for tomorrow, I'll have it as well if we figure it out!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
I tried the foil trick and I got NO SIGNAL whatsoever.. mind posting pictures and letting me know how exactly u did it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
get a piece of aluminum tinfoil.cut it so that it covers the bottom of the phone from the bottom of the battery to the edge of the phone. basicly the whole area thats covered by the rear cover. cut a hole for your speaker and S-pen, dont block the holes for the tabs of the rear cover.

it will be a piece that looks like 1/2" X" 2". maybe use a tiny dab of glue or tape to hold it in place when you put the cover back on.

snap on cover try it out.

i used aluminum tape (used for inuslation of ducts from a hardware store.) for simplicity.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
Perfect... thanks for the detailed explanation.... that im sure will help.... now to go buy some aluminum duct tape lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
try tinfoil from the kitchen first. its free.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sazfar13:
This thread seems useful as well

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26391506
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
Thats what i used and it didnt help lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
try tinfoil from the kitchen first. its free. try different designs and sizes, but be careful not to short out the battery or touch any metal bits on your phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] easyguy:
Yeah I KNow, the GS3 probably have hundred of devs and 20+ roms already. No one except you and Qwantatu bought a T-Mobile Note? lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ntellegence:
I currently use this and for me only Reynolds wrap worked. Cheaper brands did nothing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerrybritt:
Well, here is Dallas, the stores that got them, some did not, sold out before noon. Each store was getting 4 - 6 units. Must be these Texans aren't developers, just users.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
Well T-Mobile isn't helping things by releasing a nearly year-old phone as "new," as well as keeping it only limited distribution. You can only buy it online, practically no stores are even going to stock it; that's in their official press release. Launching it at $249 subsidized price is absolutely atrocious too, this thing should be priced only slightly higher than an SGS2 since that's what it is; a big SGS2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sashusmom:
I did it with kitchen foil first to see if it helped first and where the placement worked the best. Use a little scotch tape to secure, test, adjust to the best reception, Then did it with aluminum tape so it's permanent.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lvnlegendinc:
Thanks..ill try that!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Young Cardiac:
Waiting patiently.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] salmanaman:
Wouldn't it help if we posted the Tmobile full zip file and then have a post explaining what we need. Everything is so "hush hush" its harder to ask a dev at a time and I feel as thou all the burden is on these two guys having a thread open with the zip file would be a door half open at least don't you think?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sashusmom:
That would be a start, but doesn't the tmobile notes have to be rooted to be able to pull the zip or dump the rom?? Not my thing, but that's my thinking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] salmanaman:
Evan more of a reason to have a new thread. Its a matter of devs reading the post right now this post doesn't have what we need listed as a main topic.