yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
I disagree. Because this has to do with frequency clocking, I'd say this is very much good to have stuck here.

Perhaps adding further information about undervolting would be even better?
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
I hope we get some more insight.

I rooted for the sole purpose of getting better battery life. I read about undervolting, overclocking and underclocking to save battery. Then I find I can't change voltages like I thought. I know its out there just gotta get the right dev to respond to this thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Best of luck to you, I'm sure many will thank you for this :)
[HTC EVO 3D] steal25:
What rom are you running? in system tuner pro click the "cpu" button you'll come to the screen where you set clock speeds, at the very top is a tab labled "voltage" hit that and there you can set your voltages. be careful though some phones dont play well with some setting, thats why i dont preset voltages in my ROM.
[HTC EVO 3D] dimebagdan65:
+1 for System Tuner Pro, love that app! I, too, hope this thread sticks cause I've been looking for PRECISELY this info to no avail recently!

Subscribed! Howdy folks!
[HTC EVO 3D] egzthunder1:
Relevant to Dev. This stays here....

Nice work getting this here, OP.
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
Here is a great thread with a TON of useful information about kernels, govenors,I/O schedulers, kernel modules and a lot more... Very informative.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
First Rom was viperRom then I added the rc remix kernel. Second Rom was the meanRom then a few hours later added the anthrax kernel
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
Good explanations as to what the OP was trying to relay.
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
I'll have to read this one when I'm on a computer. Way to much info for the app.

Brownie points for this guy. Downloaded that app now and loving it. I'm gonna start with a 10 mV decrease on all voltages then do like 2 mV increments till I have issues then I'll report back.

+2

By the way guys and gals does anyone else here have dyslexia? I didn't think I could get into all this because of it but I find it kinda soothing. Like working on cars helps with my ADHD. I feel like Jessie from The Fast And The Furious. Ha ha
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
Same post I linked right above you...

I wipe till it bleeds...
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
I know. All I did was quote the author of the section that pertains to the governor in which the OP was trying to break down in the beginning.

I'm a big fan of keeping things under one thread for easy fluidity of related information.
[HTC EVO 3D] dimebagdan65:
Oh... my... GOD! I friggin love your sig! My sides hurt! I'm totally with ya! Never want problems? Always start with a clean slate! Duh... ^_^
[HTC EVO 3D] Jabawockee:
I always keep my phone undervolted -50mv @ 1.5GHz intellanthrax. That's the farthest I can go without problems.

sent from America...F__k Yeah!
[HTC EVO 3D] dimebagdan65:
Comin again to save the motherf**kin day yeah!

Only one question... Rockin out or ballad style? XD
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
Anyone experiencing random reboot overnight. I almost woke up late because my phone was rebooting. Don't know why. I only took 12.5mV from each step and left 192000 standard voltage. Last time it was because of setcpu. But it was happening every 10 minutes.

So i waited 10 minutes and the phone still wasn't rebooted so i pulled the battery and powered up without an issue. Any help would be cool
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
Take your clock back up to 384 and your reboots will stop and forget undervolting that low of a step. Some phones just don't like 192. 384 is my min...

I wipe till it bleeds...
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
I know the OC daemon from viper did great on 192000
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
No new input in a while
[HTC EVO 3D] P.Mobile:
hey thanks for posting that info bro.. that comes in handy big time..good sh*t!! :D thankz again
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
Ok since my last post I switched from meanRom back to viperRom cause I like the battery life better. But i understand on boot the OC Daemon checks for an app that changes CPU stuff and if it detects one it let's it do the work. So I'm leary of adding system tuner because the OC Daemon does damn good on its own.

I did install a monitor though to see what percentage my CPU is running at. On average I haven't seen over 48%. I've been listening to amazon, audible and pandora all day with either Bluetooth or aux cable and my battery is sitting pretty at 61%. That's 6:45 am to 7:25 pm pretty good if you ask me. Only thing I tweeked on the daemon was awake gov set to conservative.
[HTC EVO 3D] w0rdOo:
The conservative governor will give you much better battery life than ondemand, interactive or other similar governors. Does your phone lag with the conservative governor on?
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
there is so much more into these listed governors, how they operate, what they do, which ones should be used, which ones are more useful on this device, how responsive they are, etc. i would expound more on this, but i simply don't have the time.

giving one line or just a few words like "i guess hardcore gaming" is hardly a description and gives a false sense of what is necessary to use for different tasks, users, whatever...

performance governor is completely unnecessary for this device, in all applications whatsoever IMO. you do not need your device ticking away at 1.7 gHz to send a damn text message, or even playing a very CPU intense game like MC3 or RS2012... interactive does just fine, is more responsive, is more efficient, than just about any other governor you can use.

simply put, to explain how interactive works, your cpu analyzes cpu load based (mostly) on only two values: go_maxspeed_load, and min_sampling_time

go maxspeed load is a value expressed that represents a percentage of your overall CPU load. when that value is determined to be positive, meaning your CPU is being loaded (for example) 85 of its maximum, the system will ramp the clock straight to the scaling max frequency.

the next value is a time interval. represented in ms (so like 6000), it is the time that the cpu is to scale at that maximum frequency after go maxspeed load (similar to the way up threshold works, FYI) is determined to be true.

this is an EXTREMELY effective way to balance power and performance, because your CPU scales from top to bottom when it is being stressed hard, but stays at very conservative frequencies otherwise. only when cpu load reaches go maxspeed load value does it scale hard and work hard. tasks are executed extremely fast and it improves responsiveness. whereas ondemand scales from low to high, uses sampling down values, up thresholds, powersave bias, ignore nice load... all of that is unnecessary because of the simple and effective way that interactive operates.

as far as the others scaling governors.....

don't have time.

read up.

give an ass load more info.
[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
There's also intellianthrax to that list from the anthrax series of kernels. Idk the specifics though.

Sent from my tf9001 with XDA XD.
[HTC EVO 3D] w0rdOo:
thanks for posting that. I've been using interactive lately and it's great, but I didn't know why til reading this. To the OP, you may want to add lagfree to the first post. Also, userspace is outdated, but it isn't hard to find info about it, I just don't want to research it myself right now. I'm sure you can find info for the other governors pretty easily thru a google and/or xda search
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
it might be good to just add some information in general... not trying to be a ****, but all the OP did was give people something i like to call "bro-info"
[HTC EVO 3D] w0rdOo:
intellianthrax is either similar to interactive or ondemand (can't remember, once again not about to dig thru the anthrax changelogs trying to figure out what it is), but last I checked, there are some sort of GPU modifications in the intellianthrax governor

Damn it now i'm curious, I may just actually look this up

---------- Post added at 10:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ----------

lol bro-info. Nice term, I like it
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
intellianthrax is actually pretty damn genius....

it is similar to ondemand, yes. that is correct. operates based on up_threshold, sampling_rate, sampling_down_factor, similarly to ondemand. the difference is it is designed to use less power than ondemand and gets better performance. this is obtained by scaling faster (even though up_thresholds are used) by skipping certain frequencies on the way up based on cpu load.

it also controls GPU.

that is a very basic run down of it.
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
This thread should be linked in the OP. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369817 I would get rid of your govenor explanation. As it is very misleading/not very descriptive.

Wipe till it bleeds...
[HTC EVO 3D] w0rdOo:
aha, I knew I had read all about governors somewhere recently! I came across that exact thread a few days ago but I don't remember how. Very informative, thanks for sharing. I'd like to see this added to OP as well

lol wipe til it bleeds, thanks for the laugh
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
^ not a bad idea.

but UV is simply not necessary IMO. i have never undervolted, and i get fantastic battery life.

you shouldn't have to worry about UV'ing if you are running an efficient governor(s).

example, and i have tested this extensively, these two governors:

ondemand

-up thresh = 60

-sampling down = 20

-sampling rate = 50000

- scaling max frequency = 1.5 gHz

interactive

go maxspeed load = 85

min sampling time = 8000

- scaling max frequency = 1.5 gHz

they will both score the same in quadrants

interactive will spend less overall time in higher frequencies

interactive will handle high load of process quicker and improve overall performance during high cpu load

interactive will appropriately scale to whatever is needed to execute a process while user is interacting with device

interactive will use an overall less amount of power on a daily basis

i have tested interactive against many governors, and with power consumption vs. performance, no other governor is playing the same ball game. intellianthrax is the only one that comes close.
[HTC EVO 3D] neonfreak20:
I hear ya, I usually just set my Governor to Conservative and UnderVolt Voltage to get better battery life. I don't really check on How long each CPU Clock Cycle stays in what frequency and for how long..

It seems you have done your Home Work on seeing which Governor is Most Efficient. Perhaps we can take that Interactive governor and Undervolt it to really see better battery while keeping performance ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
haha, damn. if you can undervolt interactive successfully and get it stable... dude your device would sleep like a drunk bum.
[HTC EVO 3D] neonfreak20:
Haha,Yea that's for sure. I'm going to play around with it over the weekend and ill see what i can come up with for a Safe/Stable set of parameters. Then i can post them for people to use if they so desire to UV. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
yeah give it a shot. UV everything down 25 mv increments, play a high taxing cpu game... verify it is stable. don't do any more than 50. and don't UV the 192000 frequency, you will get reboots if you do.
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
Nope working awesome now. I have switched back to viperRom and everything is peachy keen.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
well each device will respond differently to UV... so what works for you may not work for others. inform them they need to test it themselves but that is what is good for you.

I am shocked at the battery life I am getting. just insane man. both cores runnin... max at 1.62 and min at 384... sucker flies

infEcted
[HTC EVO 3D] realtobaqo:
Good thread here. Thanks , will refer to this
[HTC EVO 3D] neonfreak20:
Yea, I understand that each phone is different, I was just trying to achieve a General Mild UV that would allow everyone to run it without being too aggressive :)

After that, Ill post the maximum UV that i can achieve so that users can have some sort of a idea of how high they can go before it starts to become unstable. But like you said, Each phone is different, So they will have to take it with a grain of salt ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] smokin1337:
If you guys want an easy free way to change governors, freqs, and what not grab my cpu editor. Its easy to use and shows whats available for your phone.

Check it out here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1584508
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
So everyone lookin, what phone, ROM, and kernel y'all runnin

EVO 3D viperRom stock kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Anyone that is familiar with the t989 development will be happy to know that Master&Slave will be dev'ing for the note very soon.

I attempted to make a bounty thread, but that didn't go too well. I asked myself what a good rom was worth, sucked it up and found a Note and bought one. He'll have it tomorrow.

Several of you on XDA donated to myself and Master&Slave directly. I CANNOT thank you enough. It blows my mind how people come together like that. (:

Along with a few ADT members we were able to collect what I estimate at this time to be $250 to offset the initial cost. Awesome.

Anyway, back to M&S...

Here is some of his work:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1455292

He's promised to dev for the note.

I've promised to host torrents of all his work. While it may not be fast at first, it will ALWAYS be available.

Sent from my Note on T-Mo 4G.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeet92:
I second that. Will seed all his work. I will also be donating to john to offset the amount he has paid to get M&S his note. Guys begin to expect great things
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Excellent!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wish777:
WHAT..:eek:

This is great news...his Roms rocked on t989....Man finally this Note is going to have the best development yet,,,this awesome news....what happened to Derek jay as well? He still coming too?

I can't wait for this ..if some of you guys don't know yet, these are some incredible developers joining our community. :):):)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] slowpc:
I like this news and can't wait to see his wonderful work here on the note!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Looking for an unlock code.

Sent from my Note on T-Mo 4G.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rg1973:
Awesome great guy.. Welcome glad u jumped ship that gs2 was so 1990 lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Master&Slave™:
-Never jumped ship, Still have my GSII, also a Galaxy Nexus, and possibly tomorrow the note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Sinful Animosity:
So now you've just acquired your very own fleet?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wrightc88:
That Blk|Friday ROM looks sick, hope it makes it to the Note. Donations will be coming your way!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Yes the black one looks siick!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Coffinfeeder:
Tuesday and blk Friday both look like awesome roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Master&Slave™:
-You guys are funny

-Tuesday is the ROM

-Blk|Friday & Blu|Pulsar are themes for Tuesday

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

-If I get this device tomorrow, Tuesday wont be coming

-I have a whole new scheme already planned
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Totòòò:
Please dude remove CarrierIQ as well :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] AllTheWay:
AFAIK the Note does not have CarrierIQ.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Master&Slave™:
Lol, less work for me then
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] CreekDirt:
Casting my vote for Friday as well. They all look nice though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] twolfekc:
My PayPal got banned, but could I mail you some money master?:D pm me your address if that sounds good with you:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
More devs are always welcomed, cross platform just means more options. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Totòòò:
It does look insidd the smali file of the framework
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dsmitty166:
Sure abut that?

http://db.tt/2hq47q93
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Totòòò:
Not according to this but i guess he was trolling then. If u interested u can read more in the general section there is a locked thread but thanks anyway:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lactardjosh:
Not trolling...

I was concerned that CIQ was still in there, but developers with a lot more background information than you or I confirmed that it was just a stub from when Samsung included CIQ on their stock roms. They reused old code and didn't take this stub out of the framework.

I asked the Mods to close the thread so that it could die a peaceful death.

Anyway, enough of the thread hijack.

New devs are welcome on the Note. The more the better, M&S has some really nice stuff out there. I look forward to seeing what he comes up with for the Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Master&Slave™:
-The Note is in my hands!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eric-1987:
Nice! Another dev joining the good fight!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
Nice now lets see some magic.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cgibsong002:
New rom yet?

Hurry up! :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Haha you asked 20minutes into him having the phone... He's good but not that good
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] smartguy044:
m&s cant wait for your work i ported over your tuesday rom and looks pretty good on the note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Master&Slave™:
-Due to the Res differences that must have been a pain in the ass!

-It should be ready around next week, I have 2 other devices so...yea
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] smartguy044:
im still tweaking with it but resolution is perfect
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rscaramelo:
This is some good news. I used his roms on my old 989.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Coffinfeeder:
Niceee
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ceasare:
Please set up a root tool for us mac users? Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
lol, just use odin in parallels.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Thanks to a bit of help from DaGr8, we made great progress last night and today. Had a hiccup in the system that he was able to remedy with some of his own files.

This should be an exciting week for the note. ;D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
What about the system is being changed? Does it have to do with tablet mode?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Nope just a silly issue with the stock base
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
i hate to be a tease...

wait.. no i don't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cgibsong002:
That looks interesting.. not a clue what it is lol.

Can you give some insight to what you guys are working on? And is M&S included in this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
M&S is working on the base for ADT as we speak.

We (ADT) are working together for this rom for the Note.

Our rough idea is this:

M&S is building our rom. Simplicity, invisible tw, size and speed are the goals.

Evil1art (ADT member Nick) will be building the first theme that is released with the rom.

M&S will be releasing a modified Tuesday theme.

I will begin work on a theme tonight.

Basically- a good base and a ****-ton of deeeeeeep theme options.

For now....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Coffinfeeder:
For ICS or GB?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
We've decided to hold off on ICS until kernel options are made available.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cgibsong002:
Any timeline?

Sent from my Samsung Nizzote
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
can't say for sure...

We're awaiting M&S's base... should have it later tonight.

That means I can start theming.

If I had to guess, I'd say this is going to be an exciting week for the note.

We're aiming to provide themes that interest everyone. ADT has.. variety in it's themes.

You all know M&S's work, and Evi1Art's... Eric is elegant, Nick is wild and creative.

I.... strive for a type of minimalism.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Confirmed: dre beats with a twist will be the stock theme.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Thank you for the updates
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Anyone looking for anything specific in terms of themes? Otherwise going single color and black minimalist.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Black minimalist - Simple and Sexy

and

Touch of color - Something to show off our sexy amoled screens.

Just my ideas
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Yes, touch of color is nice.

The thing is finding a creative way to offer a full pallette.

Not sure what color to start with... maybe pepto pink or T-Mobile magenta...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eric-1987:
Doing GB roms still?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Nah... How about Many colors! Nice colorful, vibrant icons for everything. And everything else black.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Gb until ics drops ota or we get solid kernel options
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
That's Nicks expertise. He does more of the themed themes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Ic ic. Minimalist black is universally popular.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
If that's a popular request I do have a system pull from this beauty...

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-Prada-3.0-Review_id2942
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madeSICC:
Something red would be awesome. Can't wait to see what you guys do with this awesome phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Rendition will be released with the dre beats theme by default. Its your lucky day. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Canesfan:
You AT&T guys need to make way for a new era, were coming strong!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Yes! That's a great idea
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Truaim:
I hate to be disrespectful here, but this is like the 4th thread about master&slave.. What's up with all the fappage?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
second. First was a bounty.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] b3asty:
Awesome news JFigure. Major welcome to you and M&S! The more the merrier. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Coffinfeeder:
The work you guys do is truly awesome. I think I'll pass though as I cannot see myself going back to gingerbread after getting on dagr8's ICS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Fair enough. Just a bit too laggy for me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cgibsong002:
Personally I'd prefer a custom ICS rom now that its out... but I'd definitely go for a sweet GB rom over a stockish ICS rom which is all we've got now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
We'll work on ics when we get a kernel or melvin a note.

he's got a gnex and $50 for one.

My personal goal is invisible tw, but uninterrupted sPen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kornklown69:
is Melvin back on xda?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
Unfortunately no.

I talked to mike, but I don't know the past nor do i care to.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kornklown69:
i was one of his testers on the skyrocket b4 all the mess started I never got to test anything final because of it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JFigure:
If anyone if that interested ill accept donations on Melvins behalf in order to get him a note dedicated for ics dev.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] andysubie:
Any news from you guys???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gmodprince:
Nice to see m&s dev for the note i loved his work for the Original vibrant i look forward to see his work

Ps just got into deving myself got a few projects comming soon:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] armyboy11b:
Sorry guys im new to xda. .well somewhat. But ill donate if i figure out how lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DesignGrits:
I can't wait to see what he brings, honestly I loved "Paradox II LOVE" rom!!! It was awesome, otherwise I know he was doing some other work with ICS on other roms. Can't wait to see some new roms on this site.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] captivated:
Is he going to develop anything for the note? This is what he thinks about it... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25149945&postcount=14