yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
I used the new hboot... Not sure why...

I did factory reset after s-off... But I didn't lose any storage
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dl123:
Yeh im on ics right now and i want to get s-off because to update the darkraider rom i need s-off. I'm just afraid of loosing all my settings, and the music playlist on my phone.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] trahajopro86:
It's probably still a good idea to back up BOTH your internal and external SDcards before doing this. I got stuck in a boot loop and had to reflash recovery and ROM (probably because of something I did) and it formatted my internalSD. Luckily I had mounted it in Windows and made a backup just prior.

You "shouldn't" lose any data.. but there is always that chance! ;-)

-Tracy
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dl123:
Ok thank you for the heads up i guess ill back up all my stuff prior to getting s-off
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mopss:
Why do you need this S-OFF???

And without it installed all Roms :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dl123:
Because the newest version of DarkRaider requires s-off.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mopss:
I installed with no problems on S-ON :)

LoL :О
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] CasualStarlord:
Cheers S-OFF worked great on HTC Velocity 4G (Telstra Version) got it on the second time through ControlBear.exe

weird program, I'd probably be more comfortable using it if it was more professional sounding, ie without all the beer stuff, but whatever, thanks for the S-OFF guys!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] deadhead85:
How risky is this? I really want to try it, but I am worried about blowing up my phone :p (not really, but shorting something I guess.)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
I am a freakin spaz... And I had no problems with it...

The wire trick seems to be a way to reboot the phone without having to use traditional means...

I was stumbling around like a blindman in a nudist colony trying to touch the two points with my wire
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] poncespr:
Lmao :p
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] aaki_rocker:
ok so i am thinking to s-off my vivid !

my current status is :

htc vivid-bootloader unlocked

HolICS 0.5 rom w/holics latest kernel wcx recovery !

so i am gonna relock the bootloader, flash at&t ics ruu, unlock bootloader again and do s-off ?

am i missing anything ?

thanks...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] CasualStarlord:
I S-Offed my phone whilst I had Dark Raider 1.5.2 installed, unlocked bootloader etc
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] plaster:
I had a hell of a time with the wire trick. Must have attempted it 50 times with a length of copper speaker wire. Once I replaced that with a twist tie (you know, the thing they use on bread bags) I got it on one try. Just stripped the plastic off the ends. Much more rigid and easier to aim that the piece of wire.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] :
I also had success with this method.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slamming_sammy1:
great tip. i too had a hard time using a regular wire. first time (i s-offed 2 vivid's) it took me over 20+ times, then the 2nd time took about 5 times (not as bad)

what helped was, i re-booted my laptop after failing so many times and after rebooting worked the 1st or 2nd try.

but the rigidness of the twist tie should help also.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dynamiclynk:
Done! I am S-OFF, when says hurry do wire trick. I did it and left it connected for about 1.5 seconds then released. This was after bout 30 attempts, but I was just touching and removing before. I did use a wire tie as well, and bent it to shape so it would stay when holding it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Jirv311:
For those who may not be having any success at all, try a different SD Card. I tried probably over 100 times and couldn't get it to go. Tried different wires etc. I switched to a 16GB Samsung SD Card from a generic 2GB SD Card and got it first shot.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdown757:
I too had a hell of a time with the wire trick...very frustrating! Im on windows xp and found that turning the volume up on ur speakers helps, when u touch the 2 points the first time ur phone reboots and u should hear ur computers usb connection disconnect, wait a sec after that and then touch again and it should work, hopefully this will help someone cuz i was ready to throw throw the phone against the wall lol
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] holeshot77:
took a minute or two with help of my wife.. but I got it. Thank you!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lamebmx:
Thanks for the S-OFF

Kinda trippy lol. I got this 1st try while sippin on beer number 4. Attached is beer #4 (there is beer nubmer #3 tryin to sneak into the shot like it did anyething.)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dynamiclynk:
Not sure if this is related but after S-OFF ("after" as in like a day or so)

My touch screen started not to respond (or at least I didn't notice until a day or so after) at certain touch points.

I reverted S-OFF sent and sent device back, not sure if this was related but I am waiting (maybe not at all) before doing S-OFF again in case this is a potential side of effect of doing the "wire-trick".
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Jirv311:
Did you flash a ROM after going S-Off? Or were you already on a custom ROM? Did you try a wipe and re-flash before sending the device back?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dynamiclynk:
After s-off, I flashed Virtuous then wiped then flashed darkraider all within a day. Later on a day later I noticed right middle of screen was unresponsive.

Ran the calibration app to no avail.

Relocked, RUUed, set S-On

Same deal sent device back. Current Vivid is unlocked rooted not S-Off no issues so I'll stay safe for a bit :D
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lamebmx:
there is an app (might be a newer better one) called zdevice test which has really good tests for that stuff & all sensors on the phone. I think you were right in getting the warranty, but I dont think anything you mentioned caused it, just defective. kinda like blaming a region of stuck pixels on your monitor on linux because you just installed it. since this is a faceless emotionless internet, i am not saying that to be mean just an example to educate. and of course I may be wrong.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dynamiclynk:
Yep that's why I said it may not be related, but you (as is everyone that performed the wire trick) are grounding out traces on the PCB so unless someone posts the schematics of what those traces are connected to I wouldn't have 100% certainty that isn't what caused it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lamebmx:
That gonna go to the nand pin to trigger read. That group of contact points is going to be the jtag port for the phone. I am about %99.9 certain on that w/o schematics, and open to correction from those with schematics. In working with numerous devices, screwups result in a form of a brick, or hardware (ie screen touch mouse KB) that does not work. Weird/intermittent issues are virtually always the device itself (Except alignment issues).

Taking pins to ground momentarily is mostly safe. I cannot think of a situation I have encountered yet (outside of the battery +) where it has not been safe for the hardware. Even momentarily taking a pin up to normal usage voltage, I cannot think of a bad situation. of course all bets are off if you are putting +5V to +3.3V pin etc.

Even if you take one of the pins for your LCD to ground, you will get a line across the screen (maybe bright, maybe dark) when you remove the problem the line will be gone. the direction of the line(s) even point to which control is at issue. Same should happen for the touch surface, i might be mistaken, in capacitive touch screen scenario a grounded pin(s) should be registered as a touch on the screen.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] bhp090808:
Happy to report got it on my second try. Going one a week and everything's working great. I'll be dropping a donation when paycheck clears :-)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dynamiclynk:
awesome info, thanks! I Did s-off on replacement device, glad to report no issues, just a flunkie first device.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 78cortina:
Job done. Everything was done in about five minutes. Very clean and easy to understand, I like the options to keep stock hboot.

No probs with screen yet.

Only other problem was all the talk of beer made me want about a thousand ;-) but had to go to work instead.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] kaustik75:
Hello, prompt, I started to do the s-off procedure, on a half process the softreset computer interrupted operation. An essence that phone ceased to come into recovery, only boot and fastboot. Somehow restored recovery through an android a flesher, but no insertion now is put, more truly put, writes about a successful insertion, and all hang on white prompt of HTC, and EVERYTHING, even what were put with a bang. I so think that that happened with the loader or boot. Tried everything, changed recovery, insertions results the same. Can that that missed, who will prompt or will help with this question? Forgive for bad English.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] azz72:
hello i when i go to the web page to get Revolutionary tool i went down the page to dl it. i went to the blue box where it askes for the phone serial etc.. which device should i click cause vivid isnt there
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] kelnhofer:
I have s off on my vivid. No big deal. I've had it s off for over a month now and within the last few weeks the secret has been told all over the place. There is not much out there yet for s off but soon there should be some radio tweeks coming. Gary

Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] trock62:
This is my second HTC Vivid S-Off in first try, This is very easy to do, and much easyier to flash ROMS afterwards. This has not done any harm to my phones yet and my first is over a month ago. Just used a old sdcard for it. Thanks:D:D:D:D:D:D
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Ruki_Uki:
I got S-OFF now but now the phone went from "UNLOCKED" to "LOCKED" and whenever it reboots it goes right back to the Juopunut Bear black screen.

EDIT: Well I ran it throught ControlBear again and was able to install the Mod hboot and still have S-OFF but still cant get passed the black screen and theres no more recovery
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Markavich:
Thanks so much! Got it on the first try. Go Team Android!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] android_lover69:
:D Success! From the first try! It's very easy to do, but make sure your have your HTC Vivid Drivers, and your SDCard backup, ;)

Thanks A Mill!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
So I gotta ask is there any advantage for an at&t user to get full s off?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Ability to flash kernels from recovery...seriously it makes flashing roms sooo much easier...and its a lot easier then it sounds...I got it first try with sweaty shaky hands lol...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 78cortina:
I got it first try also.

Ever since I have never had a problem flashing Tom's kernels backs ups.

Its easy as man, just follow instructions.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] zippox180:
Ha! First try as well. Alot different than the galaxy lol but kinda exciting. I feel like a cool kid now. thanks for making it so simple.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
That is true, kinda annoying having to get on my PC everytime I wanna put a rom on kernal on. So used to just downloading a rom over wifi and doing everything from my phone.

For me I'm not worried about bricking it, more worried about that sticker that says "void"
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] android_lover69:
"like a cool kid" hahaha this make me laugh so hard hahahaha xD
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] zippox180:
Lol all this talk about s off and I was so nervous about doing it. And im way to lazy to flash boot seperately so I gave a shot so now I'm a cool kid. xD
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ronnie498:
Most cell phone repair shops have them or can buy on eBay
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] spyderman33:
What fastboot command is it to flash the backup boot.img?

Thanks
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] agentfusion:
er.. I'd assume the same for any fastboot flash.

Syntax: fastboot flash <partition> <image>

So, a boot.img would be 'fastboot flash boot boot.img', recovery would be 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img', etc.

If that's not what you meant, let me know.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] PhxkinMassacre:
hey i usually creep around in the evo and evo lte forums since those are the phones i have but a friend of mine wants to root his phone after seeing all the cool stuff i can do. so can someone tell me, is this tool compatible with the 3.26 build and whatever boot loader came packaged with it? didn't see it mentioned in the op.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ess.boyer:
It should be as long as the bootloader is UNLOCKED first. I believe that the tool comes with a custom HBOOT, but I believe it's optional. Someone maybe can correct me on that. I'm pretty sure I S-OFF'd on stock HBOOT.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lucasryan:
Yes it can be S-Off on stock, and is optional for custom HBOOT when doing S-Off, as with JuopunutBear S-OFF, but not sure if LazyPanda, Runnymede S-Off allows custom HBOOT like JuopunutBear does as i didnt use or try those two.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] TolaSkamp:
I was successful in S-OFF, but before doing the S-OFF procedure my phone was Unlocked and now after the S-OFF procedure my phone is now Locked.

Do I have to now some how unlock my phone again?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lucasryan:
Shouldnt have locked after S-Off....Some how unlock? You should try the same way you unlocked before, maybe submitting your token ID again as before
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pooyab:
ok! after at least 15 tries, using one of the color wires form a AV-cable, I did it!

thanks to Fuses and all guys

the only thing I like to mention is, this sentence could be a little misleading about Errorcode: 66732337:

"You did not perform or did not time the wire trick correctly. Run ControlBear again, using a slighlty shorter pause between wire touches."

actually I was doing a "too short" pause and by doing a longer pause (counting 2 seconds in my mind), the trick happened

anyway, too much beer for today!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] joerolando2701:
I had that happen to me as well where the boot loader relocked after soff and submitting token I'd to unlock as before worked just fine
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] skillz9669:
Hopefully there are some people still looking into this thread. I just got a vivid off a friend and decided to unlock the bootloader and then s-off. Everything was going fine until the part about the wire. I was not expecting this step and it seemed to time out before I found a wire and read the instructions. The phone is stuck on the screen with the green down arrow. I can get into Hboot/Fastboot and I have S-off now and am unlocked. I have tried everything I can think of and still nothing gets me past this screen. My main problem is I did the S-off at a friends house and the backup boot images were deleted so I can't use the method to restore data and recover. If someone can help that would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: Nevermind guys, I was just getting myself frustrated. Once I buckled down and sobered up I realized I needed a fresh boot image to fix the problem.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] cruzin_cruzing:
It was easy. ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Marshmellow92:
i am willing to test.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lebmb:
that's awesome dude :)

have tried flashing anything you couldn't before ? like the gb radio or ruu ?

do u know if you can put it back to "Locked" status ?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] come at me bro:
Count me in ill be on the CPU in a few , irc right ?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapdaddy:
Actually, the ability to set the phone back to "Locked" instead of "Relocked" would be great for obvious reasons.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] A-to-the-J:
I'm willing to be a tester if you still need one.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gtkansan:
Hey globatron. Gladly test for you if you need another.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mohamed_moscow:
Sorry for disturbance, But did someone tested this on htc raider (canada - bell)?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] l2otten:
always willing to test i have a htc vivid on AT&T
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lebmb:
just throwing in my $.02 in

i think you should do like you did on the amaze thread, close it until release or at least change the title.

no one is reading, but as far as i know no more testing is required

we just gota wait till it is released
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] StalinShang:
Hey buddy I wanna join you and is there anything I need to ?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] l2otten:
Well good thing no one asked you for your 2 cents
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] meatwad0222:
well i agree with him if you read the first post u wouldnt be asking to test still...be patient and they will release when they are 100% sure its ready
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] haggardh:
I do as well. But it was just a statement. There was no reason to be harsh. There are much nicer approaches.

I'm not referring directly to you meatwad. I'm sure you know that. :) just clarifying.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lebmb:
you know what guys, over the years i've learned to pick my battles

and this isn't even worth the time i'm taking to right this but it's all good

everyone is gona have something to say, life goes on, i just laugh it off

anyway :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Leigh Kennedy:
I am willing to test also.

I have the Velocity from Telstra.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] haggardh:
Was this an elaborate April fools joke? It did come out on April 1st. When I saw it. That was my first initial thought. And seeing testers go in. And only one show proof. Just adds to the thought of it being a joke.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] bananacakes:
I know I have no right to ask you for this. But I just want to know if everything was all right:)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pside15:
Not a joke. Just check the threads for the Rezound and Amaze. They have a lot more talk about it and more people confirming that it works.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mohamed_moscow:
Hi, I am willing to test for you, if you still need a tester.

I have HTC raider from bell Canada.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ZeRo2o9:
Yea when I did it I had to keep trying because I didn't tap twice lol then I watched the video carefully and got it right away
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
Well I finally took the S-Off plunge - wasn't bad, got the wire trick on the first attempt (with a standard piece of shielded copper wire) and S-Off was successful. One thing to note, this wiped my internal memory (the instructions state to "Perform a full backup or replace your SDcard with one that you are willing to wipe - it is possible that during these steps all data may be lost." which led me to believe internal wouldn't be touched), but it left my external SD card alone, so of course I backed up the wrong shiz. Oh well. All my important stuff was on external anyway, so it wasn't touched. Also, like some others have mentioned, I ended up with a Locked, S-Off'd bootloader. I had to re-unlock through HTCDev, no big deal. Also - couldn't for the life of me get my daily driver to boot (though CM10 flashed and booted fine). Once I formatted internal memory manually, it flashed and booted fine.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Bl@ze:
thank you very much , u just answered question i wondered about.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mooglepimp:
Trying to S-Off a few phones so that I can SIM Unlock them.

I get to this "Test 3: ADB Detected, but device is not in JuopunutBear boot-mode. Press ENTER to exit......."

Tried it 4 times, only get that far :-/. I'm dev unlocked, on stock rooted ICS.

Thoughts? Ideas? Did I miss something along the way?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
I still don't get why we don't have a flashable method of getting s off. My HTC Flyer had something called revolutionary s-off, completely flashable through fastboot, no wire tricks
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lucasryan:
make sure and Turn ON USB Debugging on your device (Settings > Developer Options)

Verify fast boot is turned OFF (Usually found under Power Settings)

Connect your device and make sure it is set to "Charge Only"
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ptclik85:
Okay I understand that you can use speaker wire or a bread tie for the pin, but what do I use for the ground?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lucasryan:
You use the wire to ground it...look at picture

I used a needle attached to the wire to get into the small hole, then the other end of wire to the ground
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ptclik85:
Thank you, I got it to work
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Apatche69:
Flawless

I had a bit of trouble getting the second door off because I did not have a screwdriver that was small enough. Downloading all of the necessary files and Ubuntu live CD took longer than the actual process. Now I am S-Off and unlocked. Thanks again for the tools and tutorial
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ZeRo2o9:
On my phone there wasn't a hole just a gold solder point

sent from my Pac-Man HTC Vivid
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] :
Same here.

Sent from my Vivid 4G
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] magus_blackomen:
The most difficult part by far was the sure trick, I used a wire from a breadboard kit. S-off and sim unlocked, very cool.

Sent from my Holiday using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] cmurda82:
attempted the wire trick with no dice now my phone won't connect to cpu it only charges? I have uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers but cpu won't recognize my phone and I am still S-ON any ideas?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 95neon1025:
ok im not going to look through 40 pages. but when ever i go to use it and it says testing and it goes to download mode and then to bootloader again it keeps failing
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ProtheusIRC:
No version for windows?

---------- Post added at 02:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:54 PM ----------

This.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] camo_flage:
Well HTC has made it extremely hard for our device
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Apatche69:
Running the program via Ubuntu live cd is incredibly easy. Not having a program for windows shouldn't make it any more difficult. You can literally paste the commands into the terminal. Takes less than 5 minutes
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
I posted that a while back... Simple answer is because htc didn't want the ability to s-off. The real question is why htc even puts this added security measure on their devices anyway. Is locking the bootloader not enough?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] bruce7373:
Finally got the nerve to do this. I was pleasantly surprised nothing was touched on internal or external storage. So now I'm S-OFF and rooted, but locked (I let the program flash the custom HBoot). I'm sure it's been asked before, but do I need to re-unlock with HTCDev or not? Some say yes, some say no. I just want to flash custom ROMs more easily.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Apatche69:
Yes I'd unlock it again. I did so I'm not able to tell you if a locked bootloader will affect anything
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] bruce7373:
Thanks. I bit the bullet and did so. Didn't run into any problems. I flashed the PAC rom and it's like having a new phone. :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] carlosirai:
I just make it and the phone is now sim-unlocked O.o... Lol its curious I just buy a unlock code before I make it, and after u did it was unlocked, I just spend money for nothing, wen the provider send me de code it was unlocked already hehe

Enviado desde mi HTC PH39100 usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] n_yasin:
juopunutbear S-off ERROR

Re: S-off Htc Raider 4G, Holiday, Vivid. I can't get to unlimited.io page can not be displayed. Any one pls. help.

Can't get to the provided link at the top of the page... unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] izzysomms:
The problem with disallowing/discouraging XDA threads and guides is that when hobbyists come along many years later, your original custom site is no longer in existence and we are out of luck!