yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] docskurlock:
@task: This rom is great man, keep up the good work. I'm gonna donate some money to you. It won't be a lot, but it's just my way of saying thank you. I'll edit this post later to provide the number.

Number: 7S174658LB923460U
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zgr8jakez:
The best of the best keeps getting better.. don't know how you do it. I wish I could upgrade my wife as easily as my phone:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ntorresla:
Hi guys, no email or browser... do I need to re flash?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Virus1x:
Download and flash gapps
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
Gapps doesn't flash the browser
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jay_eS_Iye:
:( great, got me a newb response...

I put in there I was planning on wiping, but I was letting it fully charge up overnight and hoping someone had a fix for the Lockscreen Options FC while I was sleeping. But the wipe did fix it, which is awesome hopefully meaning it was just a glitch (haven't been able to reproduce it yet)

Now I will admit, I didn't realize the use Internal Storage box would fix the swapped emmc and sdcard issue, I know the FAQ spoke of fixing the vold.fstab file, so I recommend adding your easier fix (and add "reboot after checking") to the FAQ answer (it was the reboot that messed me up, complete brainfart).

Guess this should be the response in one of these situations:

Hi, I'm Jay_eS_Iye, and I just got task'd
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] soukie:
The clock at the lock screen didn't show the AM/PM. Can anyone confirm? Thanks.

The built (04/28/2012 - 2 release) with n.e.a.k kernel is fast and stable .

AOKP + N.E.A.K = Awesome
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Well I can't say reading through the last few pages was fun. How long are people going to complain about the mount points, external SD, internal, I can't save where I want, omg !! Guys. Really. Be happy you've even got the rom. If something downloads to the wrong place, MOVE IT! lol. Or Google search or xda search how to fix it. This has already been answered. Sorry but I had to say it. Let's let this issue die.

Edit: oh and most importantly READ the OP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] prata:
So I installed 28apr2012 (second release), and was assaulted by my phone. There was a screaming match, the police were called, and the i777 was asked to leave along with all its belongings.

Seriously though, I've been runing AOKP for a while and you've done some great work. Thanks, Task, for all you've done. Appreciate it. Nice ASCII work by the by. ^_^
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] avidmovies:
FAQ updated with the easier switch for /sdcard and /emmc, and a few non-issues taken out (no longer applicable to 4/28 ROM and later)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] justin860:
Impressive standby time
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MWilkenson:
You were on neak right? Thought I remember you saying that haha. Maybe someone else...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] cdjaney:
bottom of my toggle list

2g

Tethering

Swagger

Fast charge

ie, I don't see it. :) I Reflashed, and still don't see it. I knew where it was supposed to be...but oh well. It's no biggie, got "fast torch" enabled on lockscreen, just one of those "what happened?" Kinda things. I decided to do clean install and something disappeared. Shoulda just kept installing on top of old. :p

As far as restore goes, I always intend to enable backup but who knows....market/play just seems really picky sometimes to me. I've got TiBu pro, but was made leery of it when I read several ROM installs that specifically say, DON'T use it. Blah blah blah.

Thanks alacrify. :thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] justin860:
Nope wasn't me but yes neak with Conservative and lion heart
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
Anyone having a problem with their gallery? A majority of pictures are showing up as gray boxes yet I can view them fine on a file manager.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ntorresla:
Just curiosity only cos I never use that

..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] JordanElliott:
Try clearing data for the gallery
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
if you never use Gapps, then you probably shouldn't be running this rom if you want the market.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] naturallyfrozen:
Anyone else having an issue with gps locking? Mine can't even give me directions.. Lol running latest build, no changes on anything.

Ladida-dida
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
i just had the opposite happen to me. i think i got the fastest lock in google maps navigation that i've ever gotten. locked in 3 seconds. im actually amazed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
Didn't work. Same problem. I can't even tie it to my external sd because some galleries from that are loaded as gray as well and galleries from my internal sd. I don't get what's wrong with it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
anyone else notice this? If i have my phone in silent mode, then there's no shutter sound. But otherwise it still makes the shutter sound. Not a big deal, just wondering if that's how it's supposed to behave or not. (yep i came from full wipe, cleared caches, etc)

And as always, keep up the great work Task!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DJsCrIBbLe:
I've noticed the random icons and folders showing in gallery on lots of cm9, aokp based roms. I have it on my cm9 based a500 gallery. On my aokp /aosp based galaxy note gallery. Don't know if my girls s2 using this has it or not? . Always perform full wipes between flashes and that crap is always there?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
Always do wipes when I install the rom or kernel. The problem is actually alternating on its own. Now I can see all external sd pictures but the internal ones are all showing as gray now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jdbeitz:
Hey guys. So out of curiosity, what is fast charging and does it really work. I remember siyah kernel reverted from having slider to change the mA of the charging chip because it didn't work.

Thanks guys!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Karashta:
I'm pretty sure its to boost the charge you get from usb. From what I can tell, it probably fries your usb port if used for too long.

sent from my magic shiny box using the tap tap tap
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] justin860:
Mine won't lock with this build anymore

Sat for a minute and nothing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] avidmovies:
Manually remove the camera sounds, as explained in the FAQ. problem solved

---------- Post added at 11:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 AM ----------

+1 locked in 4 seconds.....indoors! I'm liking this :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dmnall:
Now I wonder if this option is enabled in the samsung based rooms because it seems when I was running stock, unnamed and shostock2 that charging from USB was faster however running the more superior aokp it is a little slower charging via USB port and I have not used fast charging because I heard it can damage the phone if you leave it enabled and connect to the wall charger.

Hth,

Charlie
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] msgfromside3:
Ditto. Best so far.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
in response to this. watch this video i just made for you.

Watch Here
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jdbeitz:
I know where you live task. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
come on over. it wont be the first discharge of a firearm within city limits i've gotten. i had no idea i should've just killed the guy instead of just scaring him off. i know better now. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jdbeitz:
Actually... I changed my mind. I have no idea where you live and don't care to known :P

I got a lock in 6 seconds btw
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vladm7:
now everyone knows where do you live :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
Its not where I live. but everyone is welcome to go there. its a public place. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vladm7:
:p

oh, so you work for that big town hero store? :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
Lmao. Nope. I was eating there with some friends. My friends kid works there so I get **** for free.

P.S- It's a sandwich shop and we always meet there on saturday or sundays to catch up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hlb3:
No GPS issues for me either, inside the house I got a lock in 10sec.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TonyStark R.I.P.:
​

Hahahahaha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kamots:
I am sad to say that I had to flash another ROM today:( because of this

I don't know what the hell happened, but it happened on every browser I downloaded, after every reboot, every reflash, and every nand restore. Am sad to say I'm on cm9 now and its just not the same .I anxiously await a new release so I can be back . Dam you task for making such a good ROM, that nothing else compares :mad:(nothing but love brother) :p:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
An update won't fix that bro. That's not a rom issue. That's a left over bull**** from previous rom issue. You really need to fully wipe everything including format system in mounts and storage and I'm sure it will be fixed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kalda01:
Just flashed 4-28 over 4-25 and got GPS lock inside my bed room instantly.

That never happened before !!

So far all seems normal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ggora:
OK somehow my post got lost last night between Task and Red giving each other ****. LOL

Does anyone have any suggestions on the random reboots? Would this be a Kernel issue?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] willbs94:
Not to sound like a jackass but I need a Gapps link. Only getting a blank page with the one provided in the OP
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Greg try again, do as you did before but also format the system

Reboot into recovery>mounts and storage>format /sdcard
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kamots:
Awesome . Will do that then:D thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
What kernel are you using. Are you undervolting. Are you overvolting. Need some info.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ggora:
Does reformatting the system blow away my external SD? Sorry noob on some of this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jonnyredcorn:
I don't believe so, but what I would do just in case is back up everything on your internal to a PC or microsd just to be safe. Also take your micosd out of the phone when you do.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 21cdb:
Couldn't find anything by searching.. Anyone have issues setting custom light levels? When I hit "Edit other levels" I just get "Unfortunately, Settings has stopped."

Before I installed the second 4/28 build I did the kernel cleaning script, and did a full wipe. Did not install NEAK this time since it started to make my phone turn off when I plugged it into the charger.

Anyone else seeing this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
yep. get that too. no ETA on when it will be fixed though. not sure when ill get around to it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jadefalkon:
I formatted the system last night for the first time when doing a full wipe. Nothing was gone from my internal or external SD. Everything I've checked is working perfectly fine with the rom. I'll check the GPS when I'm out later. Thanks for fixing the center time setting task...Ive really gotten used to that feature.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
.....wow. just wow. How is it POSSIBLE for people not to know they should be doing this with every new rom they try as well as it being stated in....where? THE OP! :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jank4AU:
Yeah, GPS is hella kick ass right now. All satellites locked in 8 seconds indoors. I bow to you Task. I'm not bending over in front of you like Red...I'm bowing...from a respectable distance. :-D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ender127:
circle around contacts?

been using aokp for the past month or so now and been loving it. but i recently just updated to 4.28 but i'm getting this weird ring around my 1x1 contact widgets on my homescreen now. i did a full wipe and followed all the instructions like i normally do when i update or switch roms and this has never happened before. any ideas what might be causing this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
Still having stock gallery problem. Wound up downloading a gallery app from the market as a temp solution. It reads all my photos without a problem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Intub8:
I think he is referring to the format section of cwm under mounts and drives. Not a wipe data/factory reset.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] alacrify:
If you haven't tried Quickpic, you should - it's replaced the gallery for me completely.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] justin860:
it won't let me view on mobile, I believe that it works for you
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
thats weird. i havent had one issue with the stock gallery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jadefalkon:
Oh trust me I always read the OP since I can't afford to screw my phone up. It's just that everywhere I've read people say a full wipe consist of Factory rest, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Format system was always listed as a personally preference thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
formatting system is something that should be done if the "standard" wipe doesn't seem to work as it should. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] manny05:
After I ran gps aid and gps fix I'm able to get a lock within 10s. Not bad.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kalda01:
The OP also states "If already on AOKP/CM9 you should be able to just wipe cache & dalvik" so even a "standard" wipe is not mandatory.

In fact I flashed 4-28 over 4-25 and have not seen a single issue yet after

the upgrade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Senor Forum:
SHOULD is definitely the operative word there.

:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
The OP also states, if any issues, perform a FULL WIPE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
Exactly. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Biporch:
In Russian accent

Wiping is for ******* my friend.

Sorry, had to do it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Senor Forum:
I'd say it's quite the opposite. People who refuse to wipe are the *******.

Wipe and setup whatever you need to setup again, you giant sopping vagina.

:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Smokeaire:
I was just catching up on this thread when I came up on your post. You just solved a problem I didn't know I had. Now I know how to find my backups from rom to rom.

Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] OtinDaku:
Having the same issue. Ring around 1x1 contact image and also a strange glow effect in the 4x1 contact. Tried wiping both caches and re-applying ROM & GApps. Also tried switching kernel to Siyah - same issue.

Anyone else?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
not seeing it at all. but if you have an issue. why didnt you fully wipe as it states in the OP to do? wiping both caches does nothing for things that need a full wipe. so in short, you did nothing to try and fix the issue bro.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
Haha that's exactly what I'm using now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
For me, whether its upgrading from a previous release of aokp or to a different rom, I always wipe. Everything. Data cache dalvik and system. I have rom toolbox for my apps and SMS backup and restore for my SMS. Really, it only takes a few minutes to restore everything back to exactly like it was. I'd much rather make SURE everything is completely fresh and clean than risk running into an issue and then not knowing if its my fault for not wiping or the new rom/update. Just my thing tho. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] daverup:
I don't think this is an AOKP issue. It happened to me on another ICS rom and my fix was to format and rebuild my internal SD. After that, Gallery worked normally.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] alacrify:
I didn't have a gallery problem, but I did have some issues (reported corrupt files) when I first switched to ICS, so I copied everything off the external card, formatted, and copied back - which may be why I haven't seen any problems since.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jonnyredcorn:
Is there a way to backup SMS in titanium backup? I remember seeing it somewhere....I was happy to see an option to backup my apn settings :) but I don't see anything that would backup my SMS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] biofilter69:
I have never gotten an upgrade to not have issues. Full wipe is a must for me now
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] biofilter69:
I believe if you perform a full backup of user ans system apps you can select a green link named SMS backup and restore your SMS messages.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] oddspec:
I like to think flashing a rom is like having diarrhea if u don't fully wipe ur gunna have a mess to deal with later
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ggora:
Using the CM9/AOKP kernel 4.28.12

I have not adjusted the voltages from what your ROM is after flashing.

I will try the format.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Good idea, remember to pull your card's first (to be on the safe side) ex-ternal sdcard and sim card
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] abraxo:
Flashed. Probably the best ics rom out there. The phone won't vibrate though, it only goes on silent
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jonnyredcorn:
Task what dpi are you using in the pics you posted showing contact icons?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nismax:
He is using 200 dpi
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jonnyredcorn:
I've never changed dpi before...is there any ill side effects to lowering it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
glad you like it, but you're totally wrong about it not vibrating. it does. i wouldn't use this rom if it didn't. and i definitely wouldn't release this rom if it didn't. i don't use ringtone/notification tones 90% of my day. i have to have vibration. :D

follow the directions in the OP exactly as they are written and you won't have these kinds of issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
yep. 200 dpi
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nismax:
You got big sign on your post. I did not full wipe. Every time I go to different rom w/o full wipe that's first thing I notice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
there can be if you don't follow the steps exactly in Rom Control.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ChefAnt:
go into message settings and you will find your fix
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] abraxo:
Wow that was stupid of me. Thanks guys
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ggora:
OK so Format /SDCARD came up with an error that it couldn't mount it. However Format /EMMC was able to mount and format?

?Just wanted to make sure I was formatting the correct partition?

Thanks

Greg
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lakid06:
Hey task are u still using neak or using the kernel packaged with this rom? Both seem really fast.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
neak
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SupremeOverlord777:
Task, what do you use to record your phone's screen in the vids you make? Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
Screencast
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] wonner:
Screencast
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Racer447:
I've been running this since it's inception as my daily driver, been nothing but awesome. Donation sent # 7BE83636642027141. Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Senor Forum:
Don't be too hard on yourself, dude. Vibration should seriously be a universal notification setting, IMO. I've never understood why it's not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
I can't stand my phone vibrating on getting a message. The sound of it rattling against whatever surface its sitting on makes me wanna abort babies and kill terrorists.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] alacrify:
So, it makes you a liberal Republican? :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Senor Forum:
I ****ing lol'd

:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
Just use SMS Backup & Recovery from the market. It has a lot of additional features.

Sent from my SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MotoMudder77:
Nope. Not sure how formatting sdcard got tossed in, but thats completely wrong. You just wiped your data off your internal/external sdcard.

Format system is what your looking for.

And make sure that you have the zips back on your sdcard before formatting system
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] justin860:
Sorry task must of been the area I get a lock in under five seconds
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
figured so much. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ggora:
Thanks glad I took the external SD out. Will do it again. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dimatchka:
160 dpi ftw
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
So this is weird....my ringtones stopped working that ive downloaded....and i believe ive found the source of my problems. For whatever reason my internal and external folders swapped with each other. My sdcard folder now shows my external...while the emmc folder shows the internal...umm...wtf is going on? lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] avidmovies:
*facepalm*

Read the OP or faq. It changed, and you too can change it back if you can read!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] alacrify:
"if you can read" "...umm...wtf is going on? lol" - not much hope of that :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] avidmovies:
Lol this thread is constant entertainment
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
Cool didn't see it. Do wish this thread had less douche bags though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
I put the SD card notice right next to the download link so no one would miss it. I don't think this is a " douchebag" issue rather then people not taking the time to read what they are downloading..

This in my opinion is pretty hard to miss.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] alacrify:
I agree, but maybe it would help if you said "IF YOUR EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL CARDS AREN'T WHERE YOU EXPECT, LOOK HERE!".

Ok, it still won't help, but what the hell :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] magicbumm328:
Flashed neak and phone wont start get some error after it boots cant quite remember what it said cuz it wont boot at all now. Did I instal the wrong version of the kernal or something. Any help would be appreciated. Would a full wipe reset the kernel?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xavierpunkreno:
That'd be better than not elaborating it at all. Didn't know what that even meant at the time, nor why you put it there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
This is something you need to bring up in the neak kernel thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zgr8jakez:
Hey check to see if you guys see this in battery stats.. if so what does it mean?

Full wipe including cache dalvic kernel cleaner.. SD card and emmc format still have it.. read all 767 pages and not only read the faq but contributed :p so please no trolls just some help.. thanx in advance :cool:

I see that code in all non system stats
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] magicbumm328:
understood...Will do...Which version of neak should I flash though with this rom?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
I put it there. He didn't. It seemed pretty self explanatory, but I changed it. :D

But either way. Its in the FAQ which should always be read after a new release.

This is also really hard to miss
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
thers only one for this rom. aosp.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] magicbumm328:
and that would explain it thanks sir...