yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
The smart way to NOT get the many questions on an eta.......hundreds of times. I really hope everyone that pledged for s - off will donate like they said. I sure will.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
As will I :D

A man is nothing without his word.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
So true my friend, so true. Also, Max Krivonos is chomping at the bit for this to happen for CM9.
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Yes I would like to know what you are basing this statement from. Give me evidence otherwise your statement means nada.

Sent from the Morgue!
[HTC Amaze 4G] F033x:
swing..and a miss.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
I also said I would, so I will... =) even though I've donated 200EU to revolutionary...

I've been so happy to be running 4ext on my phone lately, that I haven't bothered checking the threads, but this is great!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I guess its time to get my wallet ready :). wondering if revolutionary has gotten anywhere with this :confused:
[HTC Amaze 4G] Shadow Samurai:
finally!!

Development is gonna be flying now!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] macheteZen:
Hopefully this gives Amaze Development the boost it needs to keep living. Oh yeah and an official CM7/9 build :D

Quick question though, I read through this thread and didn't see anyone ask what exactly is "Juopunutbear"? thx and good on ya!
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
I'm guessing it's what they named their tool/process for S-OFF.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
yeah, because downgrading your bootloader is totally impossible... :rolleyes: unless you were referring to him being mistaken... Then I retract my sarcasm =P

I wouldn't exactly count on it, but maybe we'll at least get a couple new devs and options... :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Yeah i think it' correct.. this tool/exploit is working on the Amaze and on the Sensation, the two devs posted in te sensation android development forum too..
[HTC Amaze 4G] lebmb:
hope we can get that on the vivid soon :)

i'm still trying to find someone to trade their amaze for a vivid lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
this is certainly a milestone in amaze development. i submitted this thread to the portal so hopefully you guys get some recognition for your hard work! thank you ever so much :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Y? Because it will be easier to flash kernels now? And we can flash splash screens?

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Well yeah. Now we'll have a ton of people making splash screens for the phone (increased DEV'ing)! :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Someone talked to a member of the virtuous team, to come to the amaze, his response was no s off so its probable that with s off more devs will come here. Same thing happened in the mytouch slide, until s off was available, there weren't much roms there, and there was official cm7/6 so I don't know why can there also be on the amaze
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
yeah i will bring mine all over to here! :D

http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-converter-l-updated-12-29-1-20-pm-est.html
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
Why do u guys keep saying this? S-off does a lot more than just making it easier to flash kernels and splash screens. It also makes it easier to flash radios (big plus), reflash the stock rom without having to relock, allows devs to incorporate kernels into roms so the kernel is flashed in recovery (helpful for those getting bootloops) and allows for greater management of the device for devs and end users. S-off is the most important thing to happen in this forum to date.

Plus, if we can get an engineering h-boot, we have a bettter chance of recovering from bricks...acting like s-off is no big deal is ignorant imo
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Hmm...I was only joking.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
I know...no offense taken ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
XBoarder had eng hboot, I'm sure he has a copy of it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] iliatay:
giggity now all we need is moar devs
[HTC Amaze 4G] F033x:
nope, he lost that when he lost all of that when his phone hard bricked, all partitions deleted.. D:
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Ya, soooo ignorant :rolleyes: im just saying its being made out to be more than its worth. And thats my opinion, which i'm entitled to, and having that opinion in no way makes me ignorant.

U want my take, here it is. S-off is a risk for a brick. And take that risk for what? So i can have a special splash screen that i only see when i turn on my phone? Or so i dont have to use the oh-so-difficult EKF method or flash gui? Or to flash a radio, which i have no need for either... Im experienced enough that i dont think i would do anything to brick my phone anyway, but why take the risk, exactly what benefit are worth it for me? Thats all im sayin...

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] knifeproz:
don't wanna be a disbeliever but....how did you manage to take pics in 2 different screens at the same exact time to the second? I mean this looks great im just curious o.O
[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
He had to of made a copy of it, I thought he flashed is phone to eng hboot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
Have you owned a s-off phone before?

The incredible is so easy to flash roms and kennels, not to mention boot screens and radios.

As long as you check the md5 and everything of what your flashing there really is no risk only flashing a rom/kernels. Real risk is flashing radios.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
look up the word ignorant...you saying that "its being made out to be more than what its worth" displays the fact that you dont understand the benefits of s-off. doesnt mean youre stupid, but lets just agree to disagree...:rolleyes:

im curious why you point out the risk involved? if you trust yourself enough to flash roms/kernels, why wouldnt you trust yourself enough to do it with s-off? ive had s-off on my mytouch since the day i got it home and havent come remotely close to bricking it...and this is after flashing splash screens, radios, etc. i understand the point that s-off can be a brick layer for newbs, but understanding the risks BEFORE you do anything is on the end user themselves. the only real way ive seen to brick would be flashing radios, and even then, its so easy to do, it highly unlikely that someone even would. either way, you do what toots your horn...

thats the hboot version date, not the current date/time in which he took the pic. its the same for all of us on that bootloader
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
The only thing that I can think of is still frames from a video??
[HTC Amaze 4G] c0de_junkie:
really??..... you do know that the time that in listed on the screen in hboot/fastboot is not the real time nor does it have anything to do with the phone system time.... that date and time that is on that phone in the screen shots represents the date and time that the phone had when hboot was loading onto it in the factory..... unless I am wrong.. but I am pretty sure that is what it represents.... if anyone else knows more about this then please explain.... all I know for 100% fact is that date and time does not represent the time that the pictures where taking...
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
Looking for a few willing beta testers, see post 1 update.

---------- Post added at 07:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:30 PM ----------

Close enough. It's actually the hboot build timestamp.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
globatron, can you make a video of your guy's tool in action? :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
Not at this point. Maybe after testing is completed.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
yes ive had an s-off device and ive flashed radios, etc. All you did was repeat what i just said in my last post.

Lol ok, lets go back to the beggining. All i was sayin originally, was that i dont think that s-off is going to to cause this forum to flood with development. Then u came and called me ignorant. Thats when i stated the risks vs benefits of s-off just to show that for a normal user, there isnt that much to gain. Im not disagreeing that s-off is good to have, its a great accomplishment and i appreciate them getting it for us. I myself will probably do it, only bcuz like i said before i kno i wont do anything to brick it. All im sayong is that for a normal user, there is no GREAT advantage for it, and that i dont think that development is suddenly going to take off now.

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
we aren't expecting it to flood, but we will see more development definitely. it will make the amaze get more attention to devs. a lot of devs wont dev on a phone that doenst have s-off as far as I know. everyone has their own reasons huh
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Well if there are some who do not think s-off is that big of a deal or are worried about brick risk, then don't s-off your phone, simple enough.

And don't nag the people who do want it, I'm pretty sure most people know the dangers, and if they don't then they shouldn't be messing around with their phones.

We're getting all this drama and BS cuz of different opinions.

Maybe it's not that important to some, but personally my feeling is that I paid for the device, it's mine now, not HTC's! therefore I should be able to do what I want with it, I realize I could permanently mess up my phone and I won't blame HTC for my mistakes.

Sent from the Morgue!
[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
I wasn't going against you at all, I was simply saying as long as you don't go a so something stupid, having s off isn't a big risk.

Developers don't like s-on devices, even if it doesn't make a big deal, if developers like s-off so be it. If they think s-off will make their job easier and get us more devs, I'm not going to argue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I'm with aj here. Radios, kernels in recovery, and splash screens. That's it. That means, its not THAT important and is being made out to be a bigger deal than it really is.

It's useful, and I will donate as promised, but its not "needed." Ask NRGZ... He's a dev... He doesn't see the big deal either... Just saying.

Anyways... CAN'T WAIT for a custom splash screen. :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] xilande:
i 2nd the comment, and i read it in franky's voice(jap)
[HTC Amaze 4G] the show stopper:
i am new to android so i don't know much about it. just finished reading about s-off :P now i know what it is :P

---------- Post added at 05:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:07 PM ----------

hahahah this is epic :D :cool:
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
To be embarrassingly honest, this is why i want S-OFF the most haha.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nativedude:
It has been confirmed!

My phone is now rocking the S-OFF feature right now thanks to Fuses and Globatron work

Give me two shakes to get a picture up

***EDIT***

Pictures for your viewing pleasure

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45083477/IMG_2673.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45083477/IMG_2674.JPG

and now with ENG bootloader

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45083477/_MG_2683-2.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45083477/_MG_2686-2.jpg
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
So are we going to need to have linux to obtain S-OFF?
[HTC Amaze 4G] antiquezip:
So what happened to the S-Off pledge? Should all the money goes to the OP and his team instead of Team Revolutionary ???
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
The bounty was for whoever was the first to give us S-OFF. It's not reserved for revolutionary. :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
Nice! Were you unlocked via HTC dev prior to getting s-off? Just curious...it would be nice to have the factory lock back on hehe :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
We have halted testing for tonight, due to the fact that both Fuses and I are located in Europe and it is too late for us to continue.

We will be taking one or two more testers tomorrow. Also we will take a tester who is not already HTCdev unlocked if there is someone in that category who wishes to volunteer.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nativedude:
According to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1505252

It is whoever releases their method first gets the pot

And I promised them that I wouldn't reveal any details of the process until they publicly release it, so I can't say much sorry :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
Is that how X break his phone by checking md5's?

I'm pretty sure x wasn't trying to brick his phone, I could be wrong though...

sent on a mastadon by way of intercontinental epic journey
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
Not in the final release. We are using linux during the test period for ssh access since we are not giving the tool to the test users. It is being run remotely.

When we release it it will work on Linux/Windows/MacOS.
[HTC Amaze 4G] sglscovill:
This is HUGE! These devs have got to be so damn proud. Nice to show everyone that doubted how wrong they were! lol Congratulations guys!
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Oh I don't care about the actual process. Just wondering if I need to start reading up on linux now lol.

Edit: Globatron answered. Sweet.

---------- Post added at 11:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 PM ----------

I think X ended up accidently wiping the ENTIRE phone (including H-BOOT, recovery, etc).
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
Yes, he was unlocked before doing this. We specifically asked for a tester who was unlocked.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
oh i see... so they cannot redistribute it. :D smart move :) lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
Real smart move of yours Globatron.

I can't wait for this tool.
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
Partly that and partly just being responsible. If we had a fault somewhere and it could brick phones we would not want there to be a copy of a tool around that could do that.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
Think you could PM me real fast buddy?
[HTC Amaze 4G] lebmb:
awesome work guys :)

is it safe to assume that this will remove the "Unlocked"/"relocked" ?
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Can s off or this tool brick our phones? Lots of people are saying this, not that I'm against that, just asking
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
No, sorry. PM is too much hassle for me, I have it disabled. Freenode channel #JuopunutBear and I'll take a query or use the skype contact info in my profile.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
The tool itself wont, which is y they are testing first, so that we wont have that problem. But yes, having s-off, u can brick your phone if u dont do things properly

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
I vouch for Globatron 100%, I'm setting up Ubuntu now.

I'm his tester.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hyphydragon:
really happy we are getting s-off, thanks so much
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
That's what I was thinking...you guys are awesome! Thanks for your hard work :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
So... It can be done with an unlocked bootloader... LMAO.. Figured as much.

If you need a tester, let me know. Actually, more like if you have room for another, let me know. I have ubuntu installed on my laptop. I am using a different recovery though... Not sure if that would interfere with any of the process.
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Mhm yeah I'm more cleared up, I rooted my moms g2 with s off, and there aren't any problems so far
[HTC Amaze 4G] cruzin_cruzing:
Are you confident the same method will work for the rest of the family (Rezound, Holiday)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Kraizk:
If it does I have money for this dev
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
im curious if stock cwm will still have the charging bug with s-off...?
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Thanks. Glad your word makes this legit.
[HTC Amaze 4G] negbalakay:
what if i relock the boot loader
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
They mentioned earlier that if anyone is willing to test that has a locked bootloader they want to test it. But in the op pics, their bootloader is locked so im assuming it shouldnt be a problem

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
I could be wrong but it looks like this tool flashes a new hboot...
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Ahh i didnt notice that... So your thinking it relocks it when the new hboot is flashed?

But in the s-on pic, the its still locked...

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
i just assumed that based on nativedudes pics...he was unlocked via htc dev prior and now hes locked and not relocked...this is good stuff :D

i just noticed he has an engineering hboot now! wow...great job guys
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
charging bug? and why would you use cwm... 4ext is so much better... been testing for madmaxx for the past couple days and I think it's almost RC worthy... just 1 or 2 small critical functionality bugs as far as the manager app is concerned, otherwise the recovery itself seems flawless...

P.S. donated half of my pledge $50 (of $100) to

JuopunutBear

(given to me by hyuh in the IRC channel) I will donate the other half once this is made publicly available...
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Agree I've been testing 4ext for the last week or so. So glad to have it back, I had it on my G2, best recovery ever IMO.

Sent from the Morgue!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
yeah the stock cwm has the off charging bug. im not currently using it, but was just curious...

havent tried 4ext before, but my inside man gave me the scoop a few days ago. what makes it a better recovery in your opinion?
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
hands down, everything!
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
This would be very good indeed

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
whats the difference between a regular hboot and a engineering hboot?
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
eng won't let you flash a bad radio? I think... there are other differences maybe, but I think that is the important difference... I could be absolutely wrong though... so please do your own research before taking my word for it...
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
I believe there's a lower risk of bricking your device, so devs can test more things out

Sent From Htc Amaze using the good stuff
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
most people dont need it, but it allows for extended adb commands. if you think youre bricked for real, an engineering hboot will be your last hope

EDIT: i should mention, that a bad flash on an eng bootloader WILL brick your phone, so if youre not real ballsy when it comes to trying things with your phone, just roll with the the regular hboot
[HTC Amaze 4G] Turboboxer:
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!! PM me if you need some money to finish up.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hd2joel:
It's a fake number one the date is 2011 which would mean he's had this done for months yeah right. Number 2 the time hasn't moved one second if he snapped a pic then turned s-off snapped another pic the time would have changed. Number 3 look close you can see a slight haze over the s-off on the second pic. Don't believe the carp people post. Especially when there are no files no instructions just a pic and message not to ask ?s people will believe anything if they want it bad enough.
[HTC Amaze 4G] c0de_junkie:
lol i feel sorry for you....
[HTC Amaze 4G] lebmb:
could be april fools, someone tried to pull that off on the dhd forum lol mod got on that like white on rice but no the time stamp u see is of the bootloader not the date and time on the phone lol it's when the bootloader was probably signed or something. so yeah so far it looks real, not to mention the time stamp issue was discussed a couple of pages back
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
As already stated, that's the hboot date, not the date on his phone. Mine has the same date as will yours.

* beat me by a matter of seconds...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
When you go into HBoot it just shows the time the phone was made not the time that you go into HBoot smart one.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dubt17:
Dude, it's real, I was in the IRC when he did it. The dates the build of the hboot. Don't you read the whole thread before posting crap like this? And they didn't post it because they want YOU to be happy, not deny their hard work. They were humble enough to post a status update.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Let's please not turn this thread that way guys.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
"They" are heroes right now!
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Lol u cant be serious right now...

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Sorry repeat post
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
Ok he is a dumb ass let's move on before we get his address and slap him

Sent From Htc Amaze using the good stuff
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
"people will believe anything if they want it bad enough."

And some people are so skeptical that they can't believe the truth that slaps them right in the face.

Sent from the Morgue!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmako777:
edited... 10 char
[HTC Amaze 4G] xndabox:
I'm excited. Popped on here and saw something great. Will give my pledge when made available. Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
I have been checking every day to see if anything new has been going on in the development, and somehow I must have just missed this. Awesome news.

I wonder if anyone is going to start spamming the bloggers who feed the news to the interwebs..
[HTC Amaze 4G] hyphydragon:
so much drama in a s-off thread lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Sure is LOL!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Goten310:
Im throwing money at my screen but nothing is happening!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
LoL try throwing the phone at the money
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Try throwing the money in an envelope with my address on it :)

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] ThaPirato:
Can't we all keep this thread on track?If you wanna be a Debbie downer & not believe then please keep your feelings to yourself & when this tools released by all means please don't use it :D

On the other hand i hope these great Devs get the $998(or w/e was promised) promised in the S-OFF bounty page,it's a damn shame Binary isn't here no more to crack his whip to keep the peace :eek::mad:
[HTC Amaze 4G] dexter93:
guys just wait.. the exploit still needs some testing. You'll get to know soon..

and its legit. stop acting childish and wait for an announcement from the team ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] MentalDeath:
Just wondering, has there been any bricks yet?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mad Medik:
It may be more than that... The OP's Sig says this is being beta tested on the Holiday (Raider/Vivid) too. We are having the same problems there. There was a pledge thread a while back over there and I'm sure there will be donations forthcoming. Having S-off would unite the development community instead of development for at&t vs Bell vs Telstra, etc...

This is the first device I have owned that did not have s-off and it has been a frustrating experience...

Thanks for the development and sharing with the community.

MM
[HTC Amaze 4G] sglscovill:
^^ agreed ^^
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I think they hacked it on the sensation also... Maybe I'm wrong though
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
Honestly I hate the SHI* out of this phone just because it's not S-OFF and the development is minimal.

If it wasn't so expensive I would throw it against a brick, run it with a bulldoser, shoot it with a bow, fill it with pottasium and throw water at it, then have my dog eat it, my bird poop on it, throw it in the ocean, fail at fishing it, and then leave it to a farmer to catch the fish take out the phone and enjoy he's meal.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Sorry for spam... I don't care who u are... ^^^ that's funny ^^^
[HTC Amaze 4G] xologist:
but that's why I'm happy about this thread :D

lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
with you on this, too bad I have no dog. ill let my cats eat it instead
[HTC Amaze 4G] juwls305:
Are we being april fool'd or is this really legit? lol sorry, havent been on xda for a while
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Nope this thread was created like a week ago, its legit

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using Xparent Green Tapatalk
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
haha this would be a severely bad april fools prank!!! :D (i'd be pissed! idk about the rest of you guys)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nshih422:
If you need anymore beta testers, I'd like to offer myself. I didn't want to bother you with PMs especially since you specifically stated not to on OP.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiagoSequeira:
I tried to use SDE's T9 keyboard on MiniCm and it doesn't work. Can anybody give me the link for the T9 xperia keyboard working on other roms please?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dipusen:
Can try this with xRec or CWM.