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[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Ok one last question before I start this root thing.

I just finished getting everything setup exactly the way I want.

Doing the procedures to root, I'm going to have to do the setup all over again.

Since I can't yet put clockwork on the tablet, what else can I use to backup the tablet so I can do a restore to get back everything looking the same as I have it now.

Is it even possible?

If so, what should I use to do this backup with?

Thanks!

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
You don't need to restore the tablet to factory settings, you can just downgrade , root and update the firmware without losing anything at all. I didn't do a wipe (never done a wipe) and my tablet is running perfectly. But, just in case I would backup the apps with Asus Backup application, and transfer those files to your PC or a SD card just for safe keeping.

OPTIONAL:

If you really want to do a wipe before rooting and you are using stock launcher I don't think there is a way of backing up your home-screens, there are several launcher out there that can do that. The next best thing you can do is take screenshots of each screen so you can remember what goes where.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Oh, that sounds better, I didn't realize I don't have to do a wipe before doing the downgrade.

I was coming in this evening to ask a question about Asus's app backup program.

Does anyone know why it will only backup 600 MB? Did you notice that?

Also, I've been testing out Nova Launcher, and I did see the backup option. Thanks for the reminder.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Ok, this morning I woke up to find the TF300T wanting to upgrade itself.

Seems Asus is pushing out the latest upgrade. The article stated that the firmware has not yet made it to their download page.

I'm sure that will happen soon enough.

I was going to spend this afternoon 'rooting' my TF300T.

Now I need to know if I install the upgrade first, just so I can see what they did, can I still attempt the rooting process?

Or should I prevent the upgrade, perform the root process then allow the upgrade process to do its thing, with the machine freshly rooted?

I'm at the doctor's office right now, so I need to kill some time, this doctor runs real late.

Thanks

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] EndlessDissent:
Definitely root before the update. Otherwise it'll be kind of a hassle to downgrade right back to .17 just to root and upgrade again. Save yourself some time and effort and just root first.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Ok, I'm getting a little confused when I go to follow the instructions for rooting that were provided.

I know once I do this once, I will slap my head and think what was wrong with me, but until I perform it that one time, I'm a little nervous.

Anyway, in step 1, which I have to do since I need to downgrade, it's telling me to get something called BLOB. But when I go to that link, the person that set this up, gave 3 options. I'm getting confused on which option to choose. I personally think it's option 3 but I'm not sure.

So one question for everyone, is there a video guide on youtube that might help guide me though this process?

I ended up doing the upgrade that Asus pushed out, it wasn't a major upgrade, from what I read.

Also, I'm getting confused on the differences between the two file source offerings by Asus download page.

One is Firmware and the other is Source Code.

What do I need for the rooting process, the firmware or source code?

Thanks! I"m such a nub! Sorry!
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
The blob you need is the US .17, should be the first one in the list (if we are talking about the same post). You don't need the source code, that is specially for devs, it will be very helpful once we get the bootloader unlocked. So, just focus on the Firmware files.

It is always good to ask questions first, that way you won't be sorry later.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
This is where I'm at now.

I just downloaded the .17 and .26 files from xda...google docs?

US_epaduser9_4_3_17UpdateLauncher.zip

and

US_epaduser9_4_3_26UpdateLauncher.zip

and I'm about to do:

US only right now, unless I find the .17 files for WW/TW.

To downgrade from .26 to .17 use method 2 in the guide found here. Make sure to thank wolf849.

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1622628

Instructions - Method 2 - UnRooted

1. Upload the BLOB file to internal storage of your tab. (mounted as /sdcard)

2. Connect tablet to the computer and start ADB shell session.

3. When you will be in adb shell execute following commands:

Should I do this now?

I downloaded the files, but where do I get this BLOB thing?

Thanks!

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Inside the zip archive you downloaded you will find another zip, inside that one you will see a file called BLOB. Just extract that file and upload it to your internal sdcard. Then follow the instructions carefully, take your time reading them, no need to hurry.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Found it inside the .17 extract just as you stated. OK what's next so upload that file to the internal sd not my external card. I can do that without even hooking up the table to the usb port?

Let me read the next step in the option 2 box... right! LOL!

Thanks for sticking with me through this... it's really appreciated. I was going to put it off one more day, but now that you're working with me, I'm going to move forward... and learn it tonight and get it going tonight! <grin>

Rob

---------- Post added at 08:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:21 PM ----------

Whoops! Forgot that I needed the ADB stuff.

I just realized that the BLOB file is really too large to copy via wifi connection.

So I went to connect the computer to the tablet via USB and on this particular computer I never installed the PCSuite, which I guess gives me the ADB connection.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Moved the conversation to PMs check your inbox.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
@jgaf

thank you for this consideration
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Good morning everyone!

Well after working most of the night with jgaf I learned a lot but we did not have success in getting my 300 rooted.

It appears that there might be several reasons and I wanted to ask here for options on what might have gone wrong.

It seems I'm having trouble getting adb access correctly.

I had originally installed the Asus PC Suite on my XP computer (which is what I am using for the process), that installs Asus's own usb driver.

jgaf said he just installed the Android sdk for that driver.

Also, I have been using this computer for my Samsung Galaxy S II stuff, so there is a usb driver for that as well.

There is a chance it could have worked as well and I just might not have been patient enough, which I'm going to test out again. During he viper process the first time around I got an adb access error. The second time after choosing option 1 for the download it got to a point where it said I had to wait 3-10 minutes. In that time the tablet reboot totally and was back, but then viper got stuck at a statement 'step 3' and just froze there.

It's jgaf idea that I just did not wait long enough for the process to finish.

Because after we gave up for the night, I had just happened to power down the 300 and then turn it back on, when I did turn it back on, it attempt to downgrade, I believe, but failed with a message saying blob was corrupted that crc failed. Some like that.

So this morning, I uninstalled all the drivers (hopefully they really got off) even my Samsung stuff.

I want to start clean and try it again.

So not to make this much longer and get everyone angry. I want to know if anyone had any step that I can take to make sure I do have the ADB access correctly, or what topic area I can ask to get help.

Thanks!

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] Iceman248:
The unlock tool is now available from asus. :D
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
OK, I'm about to try this again and I cleaned up my computer so I'm only running the one step (ViperMOD Primer Tool v4.5) recommended by jgaf.

One fast question?

When I plug the USB cable into the PC, should the 300 be up and running or do I need to be in the developer download mode. Something like I have to do on my Samsung phone?

I copied the .17 blob file to the upper level of the /mnt/sdcard/blob

Thanks

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] UndisputedGuy:
I cant make A New topic on this app so will ask here:

Does anyone else's stock mail app no longer work? Mine can no longer connect to server...
[Transformer TF300T General] 10010110:
What is the difference between unlocking the tf300 and rooting the tf300?

I know rooting is effectively making yourself the SU, but what is the difference wrt unlocking? Just being able to use it in a different region?
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Make sure you did not accidentally 'disabled' the built-in email app .

It seem that you can disable the email program that Asus provided.

Its not the same as the Gmail app program.

I personally use Kaiten email app (basically the paid version of the free K-9 email app ), so I intentionally disabled the built-in email app.

OK, I enabled my email app just to check what you might check.

See if the frequency is not set to 'never' and there are a few other settings below that that you can double check.

Its a very simple email client with very limited features.

Do that a look at K-9 email client in the Play store.

Rob

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] sparkym3:
Unlocking allows you to flash other ROMs onto your device (you no longer get ROM updates from ASUS). If you do not plan on flashing a new ROM then there is no reason to Unlock.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
dont forget unlocking Voids your warranty. which i think alot of people overlook being anxious to try new stuff.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
I want to publicly thank jgaf for spending his evening guiding me the downgrade process and then sticking with me through rooting and ultimately until I got my 300 back up to the latest version.

We used the Sparky method.

Have some issues with Titanium Backup, but that is for another day.

I'm off to make some donations.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] UndisputedGuy:
[Doesn't matter]
[Transformer TF300T General] BNAS:
Updating Firmware

Greetings! I am on the .17 firmware and I an rooted. Used OTA rootkeeper to back it up and downloaded the .26 and .29 US versions from Asus as it will not find it from the tablet itself.

How do I install the firmware update (.ZIP) file once copied to the /Sdcard? I extracted the files to my computer. Should I copy the Blob file to the SDcard and then run it? I just don't want to brick this thing. Also, can I just to .29 and skip .26 then restore root?

Thanks,
[Transformer TF300T General] EndlessDissent:
You can't restore root after a manual update. You have to wait until the OTA is available to you. Otherwise, the only way to root is to unlock your device and flash the root zip in the CWM thread.
[Transformer TF300T General] BNAS:
Well that sucks! Any idea why there is no update available when I check from the Transformer?
[Transformer TF300T General] Thinking1:
Any Answer Yet

I just got this same model for a buddy of mine. Did you ever find out the answer to your question.. We see the white circles around the 1 and 6 buttons and also the up and down button as well. Do they serve any real person?
[Transformer TF300T General] Lectrik:
They're low visibilty references. They don't actually have a function other than your sight. In low light they split the number pad from 1-5 and from 6-10 similar to the tactile references on the F and J keys on a QWERTY.
[Transformer TF300T General] rdjr74:
Back from the dead! I found this tablet on 1 day deals today for 260 (refurb). Is this still a relevant tablet, it being a year old? For the price would it be worth it to bite the bullet on this a get one? Are there other tablets out there that are more current with the same spec's or better spec's around the same price? thanks!
[Transformer TF300T General] cmendonc2:
I bought one, and im pretty happy with it
[Transformer TF300T General] kaos420:
the dev support on this tablet is amazing. i looked around for a month or so. for what we have tegra 3 and so on. its a great deal. unlock root it flash cm10.1 profit.
[Transformer TF300T General] Stringy_D:
Had cm10.1 and now on Official cm10.2 Nightlies and running smooth
[Transformer TF300T General] Raspail:
Driving your Prime like hell, don't forget your GPS. ;)

I guess if the 300 is ok with wifi, wifi/bt and gps, that's a clever enough car. And from those early tests it seems it is.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
Slightly OT: I just read reviews of the Samsung GT 2 7". It's your average "value" 7-incher, but the shocker (for me, anyway) is that it's only $250. I didn't expect that from Samsung, as this puts it in competition with the Kindle Fire/Nook Tablet. Samsung's angle thus far has been gunning after Apple in the premium category.

The normal course of roll-out is that you launch your flagship first (to get the early adopters), then followed by value products to get the mainstreamers. It's rare to see an inverted launch where you lead first with the value line. My inclination is that we won't see a high-end Android toy from Samsung (or Asus, or Acer) at least for this spring/summer season. Fall is another kettle of fish. Let's hope Google really wows with JB at I/O, so vendors will have some buzz to keep the bandwagon rolling.

Folks will probably have read the GT 2 7" reviews already, but for convenience's sake:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/11/...-2-10-1-at-400-galaxy-players-at-150-and-200/

http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/11/2941105/samsung-galaxy-tab-2-7-0-review

At $250, this is a better deal than the KFire or the Nook. The rumored Google tab will have competition.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
the google nexus tablet was suppose to be a tegra 3 @ $250. but they were wanting a cheaper price point $150 - $200 so they moved the release date back to june or so i read. perhaps they will put an even lower powered tegra 3 in it? while i agree thats a good price for the samsung 7"..if google nexus is able to bring tegra 3 at around $200, that would be awesome! so i guess we'll have to wait and see but the specs for samsung doesn't seem to be that good.
[Transformer TF300T General] the_game_master:
I'm going to take a guess here, but this TF300T looks like the replacement for the OG Transformer TF101.

It's price range fits it.

It's 1GHz clocked CPU fits it

It's plastic casing fits it.

It's lack of a LED flash next to the rear camera fits it.

The TF700T is likely to replace the Transformer Prime TF201.

either way, fool me once ASUS shame on you, no fooling me twice.
[Transformer TF300T General] Raspail:
You are right. And I'm afraid TF201's lifetime is going to be very short. I was considering to get a TF201 (so looking closely at this forum) but now clearly it will be a TF300, or wait for the 700 or just another one (A510 possibly)
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
1.2 GHz..not that it matters that much but thats what the official asus tf300t site says so i'm going to stick with that :)
[Transformer TF300T General] Gizmo123:
Hey guys, i'v been busy these last couple of days. To remove any doubts, it's most definitely 1.2 GHz, have a confidential PPTX file directly from Asus, and the specs confirm it. Further more, i know it's 1.2 GHz because i ran benchmarks and results from the Performance 1.2 GHz mode match the ones from 1.2 GHz Prime Balanced mode - it's 1.2 GHz alright.

The review has been put on hold - in the last minute, Asus Serbia received info not to approve any reviews, even though they had the samples for weeks now. Asus prolly thinks it's too early to publish it... They are saying we can't do anything before April 22nd.

Good thing is, i received some pricing details, for Serbia at least. WiFi model should be available before the end of April here, maybe even sooner in rest of Europe. 3G one comes in the beginning of May. That's for Serbia, dunno if others will get it sooner/later:

TF300T – 32 GB – without dock – around 395 EUR

TF300T – 32 GB – with dock – around 495 EUR

TF300TG – 3G model – 32 GB - without dock – around 495 EUR

TF300TG – 3G model - 32 GB – with dock – around 595 EUR

Here's a sample of Antutu Benchmark, i was getting the same 1500 MHz CPu frequency, no matter how you set it, Balanced or Performance.

Speaker thing - could be dual speakers in the same place or one longer speaker, i just know there's one long line with grill on - don't know what's beneath.
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
That 1.5ghz CPU frequency is interesting. Makes you believe or think that Asus is releasing Pad 300 at 1.2ghz.. underclocked.. like Transformer Prime.

Or at least the Tegra 3 found inside Pad 300 will have max frequency of 1.5ghz (Prime has 1.6ghz).
[Transformer TF300T General] wokka00:
More likely than intentional underclocking for all chips is binning with some intentional underclocks in the mix.
[Transformer TF300T General] max1001:
Yea, Asus already admit to that already. The TF300 doesn't have the IPS+ screen and is thicker than the prime. They are rumor to price it at $399.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
office depot has this on pre-order @ $399 for the 32gb -- took a screen shot this time unlike J&R

click here for the link to officedepot
[Transformer TF300T General] Erusman:
Cool. Did you order one? Wondering what ETA on release date.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
no. i haven't yet. it says its $0.00 so i'm sure something is wrong.
[Transformer TF300T General] The3y3:
I just talked to a rep at Office Depot and they said that Asus distributes the TF300T-B1-BL straight to their warehouse and they should have some in stock in one to two weeks. He recommended ordering in store from the nearest Office Depot.
[Transformer TF300T General] BarryH_GEG:
It'll let you go all the way through the checkout process and add you to the pre-order list. They'll take your credit card info but you won't be billed until it ships. If I remember correctly they'll send you an e-mail asking if you still want it before they process the order.
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
That price include the dock? Just it's in the picture too??
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
Don't be surprised if this is announced and released on the 16th. also ;) seen some tech sites reporting 16th. plus it seems like a good date since they will be announcing/discussing GPS dongle that day also.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
it has this under the more information:

Enjoy up to 10 hours of battery life between charges. Up to 15 hours with keyboard docking station (sold separately).

calling my local office depot.

update: the guy was dumb..he didn't know what pre-order meant..he said i can order it online or at the store..and it will be the same thing...didn't even ask for the item number..but i told him it was preorder..

oh well i'll just get it on amazon.
[Transformer TF300T General] babymatteo:
You guys think this is worth selling my prime for this?
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
I honestly can't recommend ordering/purchasing one from Office Depot. They have some crappy return policy like Gamestop.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
no..lmao. it'll be a downgrade. prime is alot more powerful and display is better. plus you will be losing battery life, tablet will be thicker and heavier. this is good for someone who doesn't already own a prime or tablet already. A good low end tablet.

that's like asking should you sell your BMW to get a Toyota..lol. A downgrade in every sense.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
no.

1) you won't get enough for your prime

2) you are downgrading..
[Transformer TF300T General] babymatteo:
Lol i see. Thanks for saving my prime :D

Also its funny you mention bmw...because i actually sold my 01 BMW M3 4yrs ago to get my 06 Evo lol...Although, i actually found that to be an upgrade.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
it was an upgrade to a car 5 years newer though ;)

OT but I think I asked you this before but lost where the thread was. looks like an intercooler in the bottom grill. What kind of boost you running? Horsepower/torque/PSI? does it have launch control and is it the AWD one? ECU reprogrammed?

you can pm me the reply if you want
[Transformer TF300T General] yumms:
If TF300 has better read/write disk speeds compared to TFP then it'll actually be an upgrade in a big way.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
its still using MTP..that's where the slowdown is occurring. once they go back to USB mass storage mode is when the speeds will increase. 300 does have ddr3 ram which is good. but still 1Gb total ram like prime. that's not going to speed up the ui or anything. plus read/write speeds can be increased on the prime anyways if you've looked in developement section lately.

ill take more power, better display, and longer battery life, lighter & thinner form factor vs. ddr3

Downgrade IMO.
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
Prime isn't A LOT MORE POWERFUL compared to Pad 300... as someone would put it.

Honestly, it's up to the person...

While Prime has IPS+ & Tegra 3 with 1.3ghz SoC out of the box compared to 1.2ghz of Pad 300 (based on gizmo's benchmark.. you see 1.5ghz, so that might be the max CPU frequency while Prime has 1.6ghz max cpu frequency)....

Pad 300... in theory, will have better WIFI & GPS (without the dongle) & DDR3 instead of DDR2

So, it can be a trade-off...

Spec wise, Prime to Pad 300 is a downgrade.... & Pad 300 will weigh more/thicker.. oh and without FLASH for back camera but cost $100 less...
[Transformer TF300T General] yumms:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1595531

Read/write speeds are terrible on TFP, nothing to with MTP.

And the web browsing is also terrible http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1593079

If those things are fixed, then I'd consider it an upgrade. And we know the wifi won't be broken.
[Transformer TF300T General] the_game_master:
where's the iPad 3 on that benchmark at?
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
I already know about the read write speeds. like I said, we have people in developement that have increased that significantly.

then browser performance is subject to user and which one you using. I have no issues with browser and it loads up very fast and scrolls smoothly. plus performance can be based off of someones internet connection speeds. I use opera mobile and its great.

if you get a 300 thinking internet browsing will be improved then you will be in for a surprise. its more so an android issue with stock ICS browser.

as far as wifi performance, its already known from FCC report that its wifi gain is worse than primes. which usually means it performance is worse or not as powerful. plus no "Official" reviews or comparisons of it yet. like Anandtech breakdowns.

plus whose wifi is broken anyways? LMFAO. mines work great and is better than my Ipad or motor Atrix. in speed, stability, and range(basically).

because your unit or a few others might be subpar or broken, doesn't mean the majority is. ;)

lets not beat a dead horse though. I want the 300 to release sooner than later so this Prime section can finally be rid of some people..lmfao.

REGARDLESS, 300 SHOULD BE A GREAT DEVICE... its a lower end economy device that costs less. a great first tablet or tablet for someone that doesn't have premium money to spend on a prime or infinity pad. unless someone prime was very defective, selling a prime to get a 300 is a serious downgrade across the board plus you'll lose out on money. ill have my prime till at least the end of the year when tegra4 tablets start rolling out. that's something to sell prime over or time to get a new tablet and pass the prime down to someone.
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
Do you think it has IPS but not IPS+?

I'm tossed up between the TF201, TF300 and Acer A510... Frankly, I'd be happy if one of them was just available. No matter how you slice it, it'll be an upgrade from my rooted Nook Color :D