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[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
1) how is the wifi and gps reception?

2) can you have BT/WIFI enabled at the same time and do you see any issues with this

3) how long is the battery life with video playback.

4) can you do some benchmarks?

5) is that the 16gb or 32gb model?

6) how is the video capture and picture quality from the camera?

that about sums it up for everyone.
[Transformer TF300T General] Gizmo123:
Inferior in most stuff, as planned. Still fast though. http://www.notebookcheck.net/ASUS-Transformer-TF300T-full-specs-leaked.70262.0.html

I will do benchmarks in the official review, as e.mote said, you can expect a bit lower results.

Here's a WiFi comparasion http://img.benchmark.rs/tests/incoming/Gizmo/IMG_6318.JPG . Pretty similar to Galaxy Tab 8.9 in most cases, but the Tab is always a few dBm ahead. Even in different angles, changing positions, and standing far away, not letting my body not interfering with the signal - results do fluctuate, but still, 8.9 is slightly better all around. Plastic in TF300T solved the problem, nothing to interfere with the WiFi transmitter.

No idea about the exact mAh, but the specs suggest "8.5hrs battery life (Tablet) and 12.5hrs (with dock)".

1. Good, as mentioned above.

2. Just tried it, and yes you can, no issues with mutual interference or any signal drops. Sent a file to it without problems.

3. No idea yet, need to leave it on for at least 12 hours to find out. Will do that for the review.

4. I can, but i wanted to save those for the review. Are they really badly needed?

5. It's a 16GB model.

6. Didn't try it yet, will do tomorrow with some daylight. I don't expect it to be any worse than the Prime one.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
Thanks for the wifi analyzer snapshots, although I found that signal strength isn't a good indicator of connection quality. Would request a throughput test at a distance of 10-20m from AP, with one or two walls intervening (Speedtest seems to be a popular choice), and compared with other tablets.

>the specs suggest "8.5hrs battery life (Tablet) and 12.5hrs (with dock)".

Thanks, that jives with the leaked info from the slide. The TF300 dock battery has roughly half the capacity of earlier docks. It should be cheaper, consequently.

>It's a 16GB model.

Is there a 32GB model?
[Transformer TF300T General] Gizmo123:
Here you go, best i could do is 10 meters and two walls, one of the them being a bearing wall http://img.benchmark.rs/tests/incoming/Gizmo/IMG_6333.JPG

No idea if there will a 32GB model, i can contact Asus and let you know what they respond.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
Thanks for the pic. So wifi doesn't seem to raise any red flag. But given variations in performance from the Prime's reports here, I think we'll need more data points.

Was there a retail price on the unit, or unit+dock? Are you going to do a teardown, or at least an "unshelling?"

I appreciate all the info.
[Transformer TF300T General] Gizmo123:
I have contacted Asus earlier today concerning the price, no response yet.

Unfortunately, I am not allowed to do any kind of teardown or unshelling, and cannot risk damaging the device in the process. What i will do, will be a detailed review of this model, like this one with Prime (it's in Serbian, but you'll get the general idea) http://mobile.benchmark.rs/tableti/asus_transformer_prime_tegra_3_tablet
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
I understand completely. Looking forward to the review. Would be good to see if the TF300 has the various OS glitches (like games crashing) that are still plaguing the Prime.

A couple more follow-ups: I assume retail availability is close? Can you check with your Asus contact and see if the Prime's bootloader unlock will be available for this model?
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
Can you post a pic of the setup screen: Showing the firmware version, GPS version , Bluetooth, etc...
[Transformer TF300T General] Gizmo123:
It should be close, rumors are that it will be available in the beginning of May. I have also asked Asus about the release date in the same e-mail with the question of price. Although, i will probably get an information concerning Serbian market, the release date could be sooner for the rest of Europe.

@junrider

I can indeed. Here you go http://img.benchmark.rs/tests/incoming/Gizmo/Screenshot_2012-04-08-00-20-13.jpg and http://img.benchmark.rs/tests/incoming/Gizmo/Screenshot_2012-04-08-00-20-22.jpg .
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
There's no GPS in the TF300T specs, but I note it's present in the Info pane. Is GPS indeed present, and if yes, does it work as well as, say, the Samsung tablets?
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
@aznmode there is no slow down or hangs like in the prime when you download stuff on the acer510 I use to hate that shhh on the prime couldn't put 2 things to DL without it freezing for a few sec.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
How does that debunk the Prime if it is the TF300 you are getting?
[Transformer TF300T General] makeshiftballer:
we havent gotten primes in months and right off the bat we are getting more tf300's then we ever got tf201's

they are clearly not producing the prime anymore
[Transformer TF300T General] Jononon:
Thanks for the responses! I was pretty much committed but this sweetens it a little bit.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Hi all,

First, thank you everyone for the links to the Android Tutorials. I watched one (not that great) tutorial that I found myself and got enough to get me going a little bit better.

Also, because of the fantasic keyboard dock, it made things go a little bit easier.

Heck, all I was doing all night was download all the apps that I liked the most that were on my phone and put them on the 300.

I haven't heard the sound issue yet, with the downloading, there wasn't much sound involved, and I played some music a minute or so before packing it in for the night.

But there is something that is really bothering me, enough to consider returning it.

That stupid speaker placement.

Look, you really can't make this thing go too loud.

Then add to that, when listening to music, it is so strange to have sound come out from one side of the tablet.

Consider watching a movie (which I will be doing in bed to help go to sleep), to have all the action in the movie coming from one side?

It's stupid, and I can't begin to say how much it's not something you want to get used to.

So this tablet in my mind is not for media consumption but with the keyboard dock only for work or something that doesn't require the need for sound, other than a notification sound.

I did notice that the screen is not as bright as I would like it, but to be honest I haven't pushed the brightness up all the way. Quite frankly, I'm not a believer that you should set the brightness up to full. As the unit gets old, you want to have room to go a little bit brighter if the panel is going dim with age.

I haven't taken it out yet, but I really am not going to be outside with it that much, at least I'm not planning on it. But I will try and see what it looks like outside because someone ask about how it looks in the shade.

But the keyboard, wow, that is great! I love having the major functions built into the keyboard.

I still have a lot to try out and setup, so I want to be fair.

I'm wondering if I wait for the 700, how much more will that be?

Do you think Asus will change the speaker placement in the 700, having them separated one on each side.

I guess if I held the tablet in portrait mode, the placement where it is now, might not be that much of an issue, but in landscape, watching a movie, that one side thing is just too strange to listen to.

I'm going to have to get (if I keep this thing and I probably will) some external speakers (I have one or two in my draw anyway) or some bluetooth speaker option. Maybe some add-on manufacturer, will make some Micky Mouse Speakers that hook on each side of the 300, maybe with Velcro.

Ok, I'm off to bed and watch some of the video tutorials that you all sent me the links to.

Thank you again for that.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] Jononon:
I just read the Android Police review and it claimed backlight bleed.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...remium-tablet-experience-for-80-of-the-price/
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Thank you. Glad Acer got that figured out. Sounds like this is really a good tablet. Did you own a dock for the prime? Hows the transition to using one without?
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
>Glad Acer got that figured out.

From CNet "review", battery drain from wifi standby is still a problem. Would be something to check up on.

We know that Acer support for Android isn't the fastest. With easy root/unlock/recovery, I'm hoping A510 will get picked up by one or more custom ROMs, and support will come from those. Honking batt and functional USB are main draws over TF300.

I'm still curious how fast 5V@2A can charge A510. Given 12V@1.5A=18W and 5V@2A=10W, rough guess is twice as long.

Anyway, custom ROM support will take time to happen, and A510 SRP can stand a bit of depreciation (as does TF300). I'm not sanguine about Android prospects, so will see what happens with JB and the Goog tab, as well as Win8 Release Preview in June. Fall isn't that far away.
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
Yeah I had a 64gb with dock. To tell you truth I bought the dock cause Shh looked sick and wanted to show off to all my sheep friends lol. So not having the dock really don't bother me much at all.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
thanks for the feedback. really considering this tablet now.
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
I use mine all night at work. Watch movies play some games and I get home use it for like 2more he's so all together I run it for like 10hrs a day and I be on like 10-15% battery by then. now idk how long it takes to charge cause I put it to charge while I sleep but this weekend I will time and see how long it will take for 10% to 100%. I got mine rooted but haven't unlocked it not much time since I work nights and have 2 hrs daily on train rides if am lucky lol
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
Np glad I can answer some of your questions. Only thing that's annoying so far is the game support like I stated b4. But I hope that gets fixed my wife likes it and so does my kids which is who gonna end up with it once the infinity comes to light. So far am pleased to have gotten it. Fits my needs atm. I don't do school work or any other thing like that so if that's what you want it for the tf300 with dock would be the best thing to get. I loved the prime but all the little slow downs reboots week wifi wasn't for me.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
Do you have a 2-amp USB charger? If you do, please try recharging with that and see how long it takes. That may be a feasible alternative instead of stocking up spare adapters.

BTW, here is what my Nook charger tip looks like. Acer tip will likely share same fate at some point. It only takes one bump.
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
I'll use my gs2 chager and see how long it takes I will let you know tomorrow night or sat on how long it took
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
Isn't GS2 charger 5V@0.8A? You'd need a 10W (5V@2A) charger, something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Power-Adapter-Charger-Android-Smartphone/dp/B004DHV84S/
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
Does it cut into the palm of your hands like the way the Prime did (at least the one I had) or does it feel nice when holding it for long periods?

Cheers,

M
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
Sg2 charger is the only other one that I have that fits it.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
I appreciate the thought, but phone chargers would take forever. You'd need an aftermarket iPad (10W) USB charger like the previous, plus a micro-USB to standard-USB cable like the below. If you have a Nook Color/Tablet, you can also use that charger (5V@1.9A=9.5W).

http://www.amazon.com/Ezestand-Right-Angle-Micro-Cable/dp/B003E3HPD0
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
Hmmm maybe ill buy one so I can keep one at home at all times.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
in case some people were wondering, several review sites said the Acer510 has a regular lcd display. its not an ips one like in the 300. to me, from MTR videos, 300 display looked better and it popped out more than the Acer. just f.y.i. as I've seen some curious about its display.
[Transformer TF300T General] aamir123:
Yea the display type is a WXGA lcd, says so on the Acer store webite under item description. I've also heard in reviews that the screen wasn't bad at all, but did seem inferior compared to the prime. Of course! What other sites are reviewing this tablet? I haven't noticed any major sites doing it.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Acer appears to have made zero effort getting review units out. Silly decision that will impact sales. As far as the tablet on its own, the 510 seems better than the 300, but the lack of marketing effort and price point combined means the 300 should kill the 510 in sales.

Of course, this is a far distant second tier sales battle compared to the iPad, but relative to Android buyers.
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
No, it'll be the same as Prime and Pad 300. Just one speaker in the back... =/

I believe Pad 300 slightly improved the sound/speaker compared to Transformer Prime.... I doubt Infinity 700 will be any better (Infinity 700 is exactly the same as Transformer Prime but with new backplate with RF window at the top for WIFI/GPS improvement)
[Transformer TF300T General] David Dee:
$599 for 32gb, $699 for 64gb. See post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25354315&postcount=414
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
@Rlanza may be better off with the 510, since just as good overall and much better speakers.

The speaker issue and extra battery life have me leaning to the 510, but need to use them both to decide.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
>Hmmm maybe ill buy one so I can keep one at home at all times.

You may be interested in this part: a 15W (3A) USB charger for $25 SRP, called the mMini AC 15 from Innergie. Compatibility is listed for Nook Color & iPad, so A510 should be fine. A bit expensive, but should improve charging time, given A510's big battery (second only to iPad3's 42.5Whr). Otherwise, 10W USB chargers are plentiful and cheap.

http://myinnergie.com/mMiniAC15/Default.aspx

>several review sites said the Acer510 has a regular lcd display. its not an ips one like in the 300

I think CNet review said that. It looked "good enough" in MTR's video review that I'm not concerned with it. I doubt I'll be looking at it at 178-deg angles. The A500 was supposed to be pretty bad for off-angle viewing.

After a long time of chasing after buzzwords, I'm now a "good enough" fan. IPS is just a buzzword, along with many other buzzwords like Gorilla Glass, quad-cores, etc. Most of it is just marketing. It comes down to actual use.

With respects to display, there are aspects not oft mentioned in blogs' reviews, such as the air gap between glass and LCD, which can cause increased reflectivity. I don't recall specifics of A510 or TF300, but in general reviews have said both these are better than their 1st-gen counterparts.

>Acer appears to have made zero effort getting review units out. Silly decision that will impact sales.

I don't think Acer cares much about Android. It's not suited for it. To be an Android vendor, it'd need to have development expertise for value-adds, and Acer is mainly a box builder. You can see it reflected in the lackluster support. It's kind of a good thing, as I prefer generic boxes that can run custom ROMs over locked-down boxes--assuming, of course, that A510 will get ROMs.

Anyway, Android tabs flatlined last year, so Acer along with most PC vendors are focused on Win8 release.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Well after calling all stores that could possibly have the tf300t, I decided to order online :) since none of them know s&*t about it. Anyways I got it cheaper than I would buying here, didn't have to pay 7% tax :D. Hopefully it will get here on monday or tuesday (UPS 2 day). Just gotta be patient...
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Sadly, I expect most OEMs to focus more on Windows 8 tablets and Android to have mainly low end options later this year.

Be nice for a dual boot, ICS & W8 with 64GB and sd card, but W8 tablets might be going the iPad route of no sd card.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
By the way anyone knows if there are any good cases for the 300 pad yet? Something like this one for example.
[Transformer TF300T General] bsweetness:
No, it doesn't. It feels quite nice when holding it for extended periods.
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
Cheers, better than holding the Prime for the same amount of time??
[Transformer TF300T General] bsweetness:
I definitely prefer the feel of the 300 in hand over the Prime, whether it's for short or long periods. The slightly increased thickness, the more rounded sides, and the raised ridges on the back make the 300 a real pleasure to hold. The only thing the Prime has over the 300 in this regard is that it's slightly lighter. Even though it's only a few ounces, you can tell a difference if you've used the Prime. It's not a huge difference, and it doesn't make the 300 uncomfortable or too heavy, but it's an in hand advantage that the Prime does have. That said, I've never used another tablet that felt as good in hand overall as the 300.
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
Great mate....I had the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and loved it and it felt good in the hand.....only sold cause of poor video playback with the Tegra 2! I did have a Prime for a very short time but sent it back and am now on the hunt for my next tablet. Using it outside is not a big issue for me so I am asking myself would I really need IPS+ or will the screen on the 300 be good enough?

Cheers,

M
[Transformer TF300T General] bsweetness:
If you're not using it outside, the screen on the 300 is more than good enough. It's a really solid IPS display. Indoors, the differences between it and the display on the Prime are marginal. I don't miss the display on the Prime at all compared to the 300.
[Transformer TF300T General] French.:
Not to mention that the non IPS+ screen on the 300 seems to have a much higher sensitivity...so if you think you will want to use a stylus to take notes, etc., the 300 will work better for this purpose.
[Transformer TF300T General] Screwedupsmitty:
Mobiletechreview and Lisa did a head-head comparison. It was quite nicely done, and the screens don't seem to have a clear winner. Acer a510 has cooler colors while the TF300 has a warmer color scheme, so its personal preference. Otherwise, they are both clear displays with a minimal difference in brightness. Check out Lisa's review for more info.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Agreed. Ever since the 300 and acer a510 was released I've been trying to make an excuse to love my Prime even more. 1 of which is its thinness and how much lighter it is. So I've been using it without the dock and case. But after about 15 min of holding it those tapered edges just digs into your skin and I'm always constantly changing hand position. So regardless it being lighter it's still a PITA to hold after a while. So essentially I have to put it back in the case so I can hold it for longer periods when undocked. So thanks for confirming this is not the case with the 300.

---------- Post added at 12:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 PM ----------

Also the a510 as she mentioned has more color saturation so I assume reds are deeper and blues are bluer. Some may like that more.
[Transformer TF300T General] hernan598:
Another Tegra 3 tablet is coming soon....

If you dont know what to buy, another tablet is coming soon , Toshiba Excite 10 quad core. look

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba...9.p?id=1218619335542&skuId=5141619&st=toshiba excite&cp=1&lp=1

(pre order)

http://www.brandsmartusa.com/Product/160279-Toshiba-AT305-T16-10-1-Toshiba-Excite-16Gb-Tablet

(coming soon)

This could be a very good deal, same T33 as will be in Asus infinity 700 (MOST POWERFULL TEGRA 3 UP TO DATE) , seems to have a great Display and a lot of connectivity...and DD3 -1333 ....priced at U$S 450 ...

I like to see that we will have 3 options for almost the same price!!
[Transformer TF300T General] Ready2Mosh:
I went ahead and bought the new Samsung galaxy tab 2 7" to tie me over for now. This thing is ok, I've had app issues, like the chase app won't connect to the camera for depositing, the directv app crashes when I try to view programs on it, a lot of apps aren't compatible.

The camera sucks(knew that before buying it). I miss my Prime, can't find another 64gb at regular retail to save my life. I guess I am going to have to choose between the 300 and a510. blah!
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
$450 for 16gb...umm...I think its normal not a good deal at all. And Toshiba has even worse update support. Same 1280x800 res. 5mp rear cam.

Also I'm not sure if youre going to see significant processing power even if it has the same processor as Infinity. As it stands now there isnt much noticeable difference between Prime and 300.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Delete....Damn tapatalk I didnt know I hit quote
[Transformer TF300T General] hernan598:
Yep but for me it dont matter if it has 16 or 32 cause you have an SD Slot.

Lighter than a510 and 300 , faster ram than a510 , maybe better screen cause gorilla glass and led backlit. I think it could be a good deal but we have to hands on first.

i saw a lot of people with Thrive and very happy with them, and we are talking of something little old...

I think it worst the try.....

Support is only necessary if you have critical bugs ...

Sorry for my english xD
[Transformer TF300T General] PossumK11:
I got my TF300 yesterday from Amazon, and the backlight bleed is no better or worse than the Prime I had in January, which was pretty bad compared to seeing no backlight bleed on any iPad 1, 2, or 3 I've ever used. There's an obvious spec of dirt under the glass near the middle, but I guess not as bad as a dead pixel. My TF300 rebooted twice when lightly squeezing the case in a spot near the camera, and the screen displays a bunch of shimmering line artifacts along the left edge in landscape mode sometimes. I have a replacement coming, but if it also has various flaws, I may be giving up hope for ASUS to be a quality tablet manufacturer.
[Transformer TF300T General] bsweetness:
Count me as one of the people who loved the Thrive. It's definitely not for everyone, but it's really great for very specific types of users.

That said, unless a Toshiba tablet comes along that keeps what made the Thrive unique, most notably the user replaceable battery and full size USB & HDMI ports, I won't be too particularly eager to jump back to one of their tablets when the Transformer line give me more options and better support.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Sorry, I thought you meant opposite. We are on same page :)
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
True that. Take it from a current Thrive owner that Toshiba is weak on updates. Will soon dump the Thrive for a 300 or 510.
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
All ready dumped and sold it for my tf301
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
Acer A510 review..

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-1-inches-of-standard-grade-a-android-tablet/
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
they said speaker quality is horrible and the microusb port only charges with included proprietary charger. aside from that, seems like a decent device.

oh and the cam sux on it.
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
Hehe, not a big fan of Prime's speakers either (but I was never fond of any tablet speakers to begin with). And the charger.. well... Prime & Pad 300 owners can't really complain much in that regard I think...

I like the inclusion, or the ability to use FULL USB... and that Print app... mmm..

Oh well, it doesn't matter since I'm keeping my Prime... =/
[Transformer TF300T General] jaymcp:
Anyone know if the TF300 is going to have it's own forum soon or am I completely not seeing it?