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[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
I'm sorry but why would you want the 16GB model, the 32GB model is only $20 bucks more?

Almost no one is getting the 16gb model because it's almost nothing to get the 32gb version.

You are talking about the Asus TF300?

Rob

---------- Post added at 10:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------

For all those that are asking for a forum for there own, I guess you mean an Acer A510 forum, do what I do, just send a message to the system admin or forum admin and they will create it for you.

I've done it twice and it works real easy, no need to hope the admin is going to read this thread to see that you want a new created.

But if you do get a separate thread/fourm, then we are going to miss the conversation we've been having in choosing between the two models.

Maybe the system admin can rename this thread, Asus TF300 comparison to Acer A510.

Then create a thread/forum for the Acer A510 and a thread/forum for the Asus TF300, which is what we are going to need in the end.

I will try and send the admin this message and see if it can be done.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
When I mentioned the 300 being the prime .2, it was more about asus taking the basic build of the prime, correcting the problems found in the prime and releasing a complete well balanced product. Hence the 201.2 comment. I should not have said that but now that it's released and reading the reviews I stand by my viewpoint. Yes it is a smidge thicker but otherwise exactly the same size. Yes it may not have all the same upgrade features (IPS+, etc) but when I have a device that cost more but does not work as advertised guess which one I am going to praise. Unfortunately my experience with the prime (x2) was not positive. But I had the exact opposite with the TF101, it's an excellent quality built device.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion and having different forums available to voice those opinions is great. Each of us have different wants and needs from these devices. I'm pleased we have options!:)
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
The acer A510 doesnt have a flash correct?
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
No camera flash. Correct.
[Transformer TF300T General] CeeJayII:
My brother got his 300 from Amazon today. It has some strange speaker issue, it almost sounds as if the speaker is slightly blown out. During and after music plays the speaker hisses and pops. Seems to hiss louder if the tablet is running any type of app or process. Anyhow, it kinda seems software related because it will go a couple minutes after a reset without issue. Tried a data wipe with no success. Anyone else experiencing this? He is planning on sending it back tomorrow.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
and it begins....
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
That's exactly what one reviewer talked about but Lisa said she did not get that on her unit in the review she did.

So something is happening then, did you add any apps on it after you got it, maybe it was an app you installed.

Mine is coming in a couple of days, and if I get that, it goes back as well, keyboard dock or not.

Thanks for letting us know your experience.

Rob

PS Lisa if you are reading this, and you see if you can create what they are talking about, maybe you can find out why it's happening.
[Transformer TF300T General] ilol'd:
Works for me too, using a stock Moto Razr Maxx

:cool:
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Yeah, I guess it does, but don't you remember me asking that exact question because it was reported by another reviewer that I watched. (If you want I can find the link on youtube and post it here if anyone is interested).

But Lisa did say that the sound was solid, so could there be bad units out there or just some software related issue.

When mine does arrive, I probably won't send it back instantly if it has the sound issue, but see if it can be fixed. And of course, I will try to have everyone here help me solve the issue.

I have agonized so much over the decision between the two that I'm just plain exhausted by it all.

But I did not want to wait anyone (for more devices to be released) mainly because I wasn't sure if I would have the money to lay out in the future.

I'm still resisting on getting an Apple iPad, the cost would be so much more, and quite frankly I don't like Apple's now boring interface, at least with Android I can customize the experience, and not have it dictated by Steve Job's vision. Not everyone has the same vision. And my personal vision can still be simple and elegant (as he says insists on).

So to make things more frustrating, now I am agonizing over the wait for it to arrive.

Where is my shrink, I had to miss an appointment last week! LOL!

Rob

PS I was going to finally try a custom rom on my phone to keep me occupied mentally until the 300 arrives.

Oh, yes, since I ordered both the unit and the keyboard dock from BJ's Club Warehouse, I noticed in my order and shipping info, that the keyboard is not being sent along with the unit, it's coming separately. I have a strange feeling that BJ's did have them in stock although their webpage never said anything about 'pre-order' or 'out-of-stock' or 'delayed shipping'.

And I still might do what I was thinking of, getting both units and then deciding when I have both in my hands.

Ok Robert, go to bed already!
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
LOL history repeating itself?
[Transformer TF300T General] CeeJayII:
I've tried manipulating every setting and as I said, I did a data wipe. The issue persists. Like I said... pretty sure it is software because it is fine for the 1st minute or so, after a reset, then gradually gets worse. I would be interested to read the review that mentioned this issue. Hope it isn't too widespread.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
I remember..lol. send your 300 back and get a Prime. ;)

lmao...I been stated that things won't be as peachy as some lead to believe with 300. its going to have its own set of issues also, at first, during launch. watch the complaints start rolling in. since 300 doesn't have its own forum yet, we will here them here first.

I think it'll still be a good Device. it will go through its own growing pains like prime did.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Did you get an update like Lisa did when you first booted the 300? Maybe thats supposed to fix it. But hissing sometimes could be some grounding issue in some electronics.
[Transformer TF300T General] ilol'd:
Speaker seems fine to me. Also the screen settings seem different than the prime, like i could actually use it for note taking.
[Transformer TF300T General] CeeJayII:
We did the update, no change unfortunately. The thing sounds really bad, this isn't an issue that would go unnoticed. Haven't been able to google search anyone with the same issue.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Sounds like its time to get an exchange.
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
Had one very much like this for my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and loved it. Always felt safe and secure in my bag when out and about and had a very handy stand when I wanted to watch videos etc.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
why not create your own thread to compare both devices? I started this thread to discuss the new 300.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
It would be better in xda general section, not prime general. or at least these threads moved to Q n A section. So they don't clutter up general section of prime. Which this particular forum focus is the TF-201 aka Transformer PRIME ;)
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
My TF300 doesn't crack, pop or wheeze. I actually watched an hour long TV show with various apps running in the background, paused the show a few times to switch into another app and no odd noises.

Lisa from MTR
[Transformer TF300T General] bsweetness:
UPS delivered mine a short time ago. I'm letting it charge now, but I must saw that I love the way it feels in hand. Much better than the TF101, and for me, even better than the Prime. The thickness is pretty much perfect, and the slight ridges on the back make it feel like you've got a much better grip.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
In regards to the 300 & 510:

Seems that based on the hardware advantages and the apparent lack of big disadvantages of either device, you could flip a coin to choose and be just as happy.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
anyone that missed out on the initial $375 deal..it is there again on amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B007P4YAPK/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

update: looks like they moved it up to $385 already and are charging $6 for shipping. still not a bad deal. the day before yesterday and just earlier today they had $375 + $5 shipping
[Transformer TF300T General] rwniel:
According to Asus North America on their Facebook page, it should be on sale at Best Buy this weekend. But to check with your local store to see what their schedule is. I've asked them a supplementary question to find out if it will be both storage configurations and also whether the keyboard dock will be part of that supply or will instead follow later.

Robert
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
Our video comparison between the Asus TF300 and Acer A510 is live now: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=42546

A really close race!

Lisa from MTR
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
i saw your review. it was excellent! i think if prices were the same i would have gone with the acer. even if it was off by $30..i would have gone with the acer but anything above that i think the benefits of asus is more..especially with the dock.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Holy cow!

FedEX just delivered my TF300 and a separate box with the keyboard dock.

I haven't opened the boxes yet.

I will open and charge up the both, then do the sound test first.

So I ask all of you, how best should I test for this sound issue?

Thanks!

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] CeeJayII:
Just use the tablet for a while and leave key press sounds on. The issue will showed up within the first hour of use. Basically whenever the tablet makes any sound and is supposed to be silent afterwards it will be most noticeable. There is a very quiet buzz that you can hear if you place your ear right next to the speaker, this is not the issue and is normal. If there is a problem, you will hear hissing and crackling that is clearly Steve Jobs' ghost possessing your tablet. In all seriousness, you can't miss the speaker issue.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
This thread was started to let others know the 300 was available for pre-order. Actually, as stated by other members, at this point there should be a dedicated 300 forum. I don't earn commission or get any special treatment from asus for my comments; I'm just a general consumer who spends lots of cash on quality electronics.

BTW, since I owned two PRIMEs, I don't see why I should not be able to post here. Even if my experience does not match yours.
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
Don't worry, you can continue to post as much as you want. He does the same thing on non-related Prime topics.

Btw, how is it? All the reviews on 300/Acer 510 is making me regret that I kept my transformer prime =/
[Transformer TF300T General] Ready2Mosh:
Have you tried any drawing programs on the acer a510, slow diagonal lines. I know on the Prime they are wobbly like crazy. Also if you could do the same test on the 300 that would be great.

I went and tried one of those new Galaxy tab 2 7" ones and the lines track true.
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
Funny you should ask, I just tested last night with a drawing program and a capacitive stylus. The Prime is wobbly and tracks unevenly, as you noted. Both the TF300 and A510 track fairly well. It's not as good as an active digitizer, but for sketching it's pretty good.

- Lisa
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
The acer was going for $430 a few days ago. It was a good deal but the deals gone.
[Transformer TF300T General] Ready2Mosh:
Thanks Lisa, I appreciate the prompt response.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
Thanks for the feedback!

Not sure if you are asking me how is it? I haven't ordered the 300, I'm actually waiting for the infinity. You'll see in my sig I had two defective primes and returned them both. Then purchased the TF101 to play with while I wait for the release of the infinity.

If they had released the red or white unit first, I would more than likely be a proud 300 owner right now. The reviews are exactly what I expected. The main reason I decided on an Asus 10" is I like the dock. Onscreen is fine for my 7" as I only use it to read mags/books but for email and typing up quick notes I prefer the Asus keyboard.

I only use the tablets for fun not for school (masters) or business. For daily productivity I have a fujitsu T731; it's a tablet PC.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
haha...
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
To alleviate your regrets a little (hopefully)... it is my opinion that the prime display is better. Side by side you can see it. Using just the a510, the display is great... but the primes is better... I'm not even talking super tips, but just regular setting to regular setting. Since I got the a510 for 430, its what I'm sticking with, but the prime is a great, premium tablet.
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
Haha, that's good. However, it doesn't =/

While Prime with IPS+ display is better... for my avg. use (and mostly just for reading ebooks), Pad 300 and A510 will just do fine.

However, it is in functionality where I envy Pad 300 and Acer 510. The lack of WIFI/GPS problem, Pad 300 resolving many of the niggling issue that was found in Prime (such as microSD slot) and etc...

IPS+ is actually feature I was looking forward to & to use with GPS navigation (however, we all know that goes with Transformer Prime) when required.. but bleh. I do not consider Prime as Premium device over Pad 300...
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Can you comment on I/O speed on the acer.. If you were to download from google play or if you were downloading game data does the Acer lag. Here's what I'm talking about. This is my prime as I am downloading Modern Combat 3 game data the tablet for the most part is really slow. Screen transition is fine its when I tried going home or launching quick app list.

[youtube]Zzlaztq1s_I[/youtube]
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Anyone knows if Walmart has them on stock on the store? I've been trying to call my closest stores all day and they won't answer
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
A subjective thing, since the dynamic contrast control on the Prime bugs me. Does the 300 also have this feature that can not be turned off? This could be my decider for the 300 or 510.
[Transformer TF300T General] Jesse6749:
I had my A510 for about a week and so far I am happy with it, it works much better than my Prime and I just got a BT keyboard for $28 that was made for the Galaxy Tab but with my Dremel I made it fit my A510 perfectly. here is a link to mod pics: http://imgur.com/a/qro31#3
[Transformer TF300T General] tnimk:
Good to know that this is fixed on the TF300. That was the deal breaker for me. I was already trying to justify a tablet (don't really need it) and the microsd issued swayed me to return. Will probably get the tf300 when it's release in Canada.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Well looks like acer a510 rooted with recovery. Not bad for being only a week old. Granted the same method used from a500 but still.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25356595&postcount=125
[Transformer TF300T General] jericko:
Went to a Best Buy (Omaha, NE) and they have them in stock, but only the 16 gigs (I want the 32 gig). They said they will have them on display on Sunday, but will sell them now.
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
very jelly at this moment... our root is coming though!
[Transformer TF300T General] beafet:
UPS is supposed to deliver my TF300 today!

Have any of you tried rooting it yet? I am interested in putting Cyanogen on it probably...any reason I shouldn't?
[Transformer TF300T General] ShortFlip:
Once we obtain an unlocked bootloader and rooted, there isn't any reason why not to have CM9 or any other great AOSP rom on this beast. The bundled ASUS apps are already bugging me lol.....
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
AOKP is better at the moment :)
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
I don't think there's root method yet for the Asus 300
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
That would be profoundly lame if the 16GB were all they offer. What was the spec on the leaked Best Buy ad?
[Transformer TF300T General] makeshiftballer:
the only thing that has popped in our system is the 16gb (blue) and the blue dock. i dont think anyone is supposed to sell them yet because the availability (in our(bestbuys)system) date is 4/29

they are listed at 499 and 149 for the dock. hopefully that will drop to the 379-399 price on the 29th.

this totally debunks the "supply issues" we keep hearing about the prime because we already have 19 tabs and 14 docks coming just to my store, we should get them on our truck tomorrow
[Transformer TF300T General] shinzz:
If you wish to waste 5 mins. of your time.. watch this cnet video for Pad 300.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/set-up-asus-transformer-pad-tf300/9742-1_53-50123811.html?tag=cnetRiver
[Transformer TF300T General] makeshiftballer:
waste would definitely be the best word
[Transformer TF300T General] Jononon:
Can it be used at all outside? Reviews have pointed out it suffers in the sunlight but I was wondering if it would still be usable in the shade.

Thanks!
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Hi all,

Ok, this is going to be a little embarrassing for me, especially asking this question on XDA.

As you know, I got my Asus TF300 delivered about 1pm today.

I said I was going to test out the sound issue and get back to everyone.

But I have to slow down that test for now.

I plugged in the 300 and connected to the keyboard dock (which arrived in separate box) and never turned it on, but let it charge up fully, both devices (if it's OK to consider the keyboard a device).

Ok, so I came home from walking the dog at the park (so he could play with his friends) and invited a neighbor over just to show her how to setup a tablet (she is totally computer illiterate).

I did the inital setup, which involved connecting to my home wifi and then adding my google account.

That's about all that's required for the setup to be done.

She went home, I'm about to have dinner in front of my new 300 and now the embrassing question.

I am so used to my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G with it's Touchwiz interface, it took a while (maybe a week) to learn how to get around and use everything.

Somehow this silly man, thought I could just turn this thing on and off I go into happiness because I have my first tablet.

Oh no, it doesn't work like that does it?

Can someone please tell me how to use a tablet version of Android. Is there a video tutorial to show you where everything is and how to use it?

I can't believe, me someone I consider a geek, asking for help to learn how to use what is turning out to be a totally different OS experience apart from the phone aOS!

Of course, I end up getting to where I want to go, but it's effort and I'm sure it's not supposed to be that way. Heck, I can even use the iPad much easier. But I did know that Android works different from the iPad and all this will be learned within a week and I can laugh about it in a few days.

But right now, guys and gals, I need some help.

Is there a OS tutorial on Asus' website? Or some show and tell on YouTube that you thing can just give me a detailed rundown on where everything is and how most functions work.

Thanks a bunch!

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
at full brightness it should. but its no where near superips+ brightness. you should be ok in the shade, i would think. but actually, i remember a review video saying how dark the 300 display is. itll be best to test it first and see. i remember they made the comparison with both 300 and prime on regular brightness, that 30 or 40% on prime is equal to 70% brightness on 300. this is even with super ips off. so even without superips on, prime display still gets much brighter.
[Transformer TF300T General] makeshiftballer:
Here ya go mate

http://bit.ly/IfzQ4z
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
honestly, its not much different than your phone. even with touchwiz Samsung. the best teacher is you having hands on. that's the best way to teach yourself. just YouTube how to use android or Android ics on tablets. its really not that hard at all. if you figured out your Samsung phone, you can figure this out. first thing I'd say to do is get acquainted with your settings menu. so you can see what all your settings is. then dive into the apps and widgets and stuff.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
OS dropdown: Android

then click on the manuals button and you'll find the manual etc for your device

http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=ASUS+Transformer+Pad+TF300T&p=20&s=16

just noticed there is also an exact link to the manual download

basic video tutorial and another on a prime
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
I just bought this.... Is it rooted and or a thread for development?
[Transformer TF300T General] bsweetness:
It's definitely usable in the shade.
[Transformer TF300T General] stereokontroll:
a large shop here in Belgium announces the TF300 for may 5th

it's a 32GB model.

for the moment at the same price as the Prime, but my guess is the price for the TF300 will drop once other shops put it for sale.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
http://www.bjs.com/asus-transformer...sor-1gb-ddr3-32gb-flash---blue.product.217665

for $399. $100 less than transformer prime.

1gb ddr3 32gb.

this is the first link that i've seen that had the price.
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
Good eye.. I thought they were originally 16gb... Maybe Asus changed their mind..

Here are some other link popping out with prices:

http://www.pcsuperstore.com/products/11590605-Asus-TF300TB1BL.html
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
spec looks fishy. even OG transformer was $399 when if first came out and that was for only 16gb. now Asus offering double the memory for same price? lol then Asus own spec page and advertisements show it as 16gb only. ill hold off on locking that spec in mind until Asus changes spec page or not. you will be mad thinking you getting 32 when its really 16. the pricing is off either how and makes it seem more suspicious.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
well the iconia a510 which is coming out tomorrow? has 32gb for 450. so if asus is trying to battle that..$399 seems good. the original transformer was cheaper than the original iconia by $50 aswell if i'm not mistaken.

either way lets hope those specs and prices are correct so i can get my first tablet!
[Transformer TF300T General] Gizmo123:
Hello guys. Benchmark managed to get TF300T early, so I decided to do a short video presentation, just to let people know how smooth it is. I am open to questions, but be quick, don't know when I will be returning it.

http://youtu.be/4Io1gxDrSGw?hd=1, direct HD link.

[YOUTUBE]4Io1gxDrSGw[/YOUTUBE]
[Transformer TF300T General] Character Zero:
Comparison to prime?
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
Well I guess we never really know till it is actually released... but the 16gb was before and since the release of the TF300 is very, very near... I have seen more and more sites with the price of $399 and 32gb with it.. Maybe the lack of super IPS, slightly lower clock speed, and no flash is enough call it $399.
[Transformer TF300T General] atiatinini:
How's the Wifi and GPS?

And can you run some benchmarks, with Quadrant, AnTuTu and Linpack?

Thanks
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
@Gizmo123

Hopefully you still have the Samsung GT 7+. Would appreciate wifi stress test comparison. Folks here may be interested in BT/wifi interoperability as well.

Suggest skipping benchmarks. We already know about Teg3; this is a slightly slower Teg3 than Prime's.

What is the battery spec for the dock?