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[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
All SD card slots are the same. If you've ever opened up a prime you would know. I've opened up 3 (one C1 and two C2) . If you notice all dummy cards are completely flushed on a new tablet. They are smaller than standard cards and have an angled edge. And also meaning they go in only at a certain point. If you put a regular micro SD it will always stick out more than the dummy card because again micro SD cards are longer than the dummy one and doesn't have that angled edge to match the shape of the primes edges.
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
The A510's charger connector is actually well reinforced with a long collar so I don't' see it breaking quickly.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Good to know Lisa thank you.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
When open, is the back panel just a panel, or are some components attached? If just the panel, I am surprised nobody has not used a saw to cut out a strip and then placed a resin strip over the back (acts like tape, but very tough) to enable better signal reception for the radios. I am not skilled with saws and metal, so did not try it..... Then again, this may be why others have not tried it as well.

It would not look as pretty, but I would take a black or gray strip on the back anyday over weak wifi on a wifi-only tablet. The panel design is the only thing IMO holding this tablet back.
[Transformer TF300T General] Screwedupsmitty:
Erusman did a teardown a few months back, very extensive modding if you want to look, but yes, there are tons of components attached to the back
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Back half of prime (champagne)

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/22144...tands_naked_in_front_of_the_camera/index.html

Everything taken off exposing just the alum back.

http://ausdroid.net/2012/03/07/asus...rn-apart-reveals-yellow-tape-and-awesomeness/
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Thanks! I guess that makes sense why nobody has cut a strip, since you really can't since almost every micron of space is used.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
thank you for keeping us posted about the a510!

i had a question in regards to the usb connection.

are you saying that we cannot charge the unit via a normal usb connector? what about the data transfer cable for a computer is that a normal usb or do we have to get a propitiatory model from acer?
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
@pdagal

Thanks for the correction. Can you provide a close-up pic of the tip? Secondly, can you confirm that the adapter+cable is one piece, or is the cable adapter detachable from the AC adapter block?

Frankly, I have my doubts of the connector's robustness. The below pic is a snap from your video review at the 4:09 mark (thanks BTW for the comprehensive video rundown), and the metal tip doesn't look to have any reinforcement. If you mean the long plastic barrel, that would actually increase susceptibility to damage, as the longer the adapter protrudes from the port, the more torque is exerted on the tip from a sideways hit.

@rushless

>If just the panel, I am surprised nobody has not used a saw to cut out a strip and then placed a resin strip

The shell would likely be thin in the center with reinforced edges for optimal weight savings. Cutting the shell for an entire edge, thereby removing a major part of the structural support, would compromise structural integrity.

Another issue is that the lip is where the front and back halves are mated, so you'd have to replicate the same exact form for the lip, with the same structural strength/stiffness as the removed aluminum.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
Its pretty much the same as your phone's charger. if you break your phone charger often, you probably need a new one.

but i read/heard somewhere that the reason they designed it is because it utilizes 12v and they didn't want people accidentally plug it into their phone and fry the phone. that leads me to conclude that you can just utilize a phone charger to charge it aswell but it will go slower since its only a 5v charger for the phone.

but i could be wayy off.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
I think if the kernel/rom allows it you may be able to use standard micro charger. I had one of the older samsung 7 tab and someone made a rom that allowed the OEM cable to plug to any USB and will charge. Stock rom didnt allow it. Just like on Primes, you can plug your charger cable to a standard usb and it does nothing. I think the acer will not charge on standard micro charger.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
Not trying to start a disagreement here but I was not referring to dummy versus an actual card. I had two devices and they were different. I've also seen some pics of how the power adapter set well in some units and stuck out of others. So all units are not constructed the same. I really don't care how it looks on the inside, what I care about is the slots are aligned properly. There were issues with the production of many prime units. The feedback on this forum proves it.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
looks like the price on the iconia is back up to $450 @ amazon. oh well..i missed out..but not a big deal. if it happens once it will happen again.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
>Its pretty much the same as your phone's charger. if you break your phone charger often, you probably need a new one.

Phones are smaller than tablets; inadvertent hits on the edge (and against attached connectors) are less likely during use, since you'd cradle the entire phone in one hand.

Anyway, phone chargers have standardized on regular micro-USB connector a couple of years back, so replacing a broken charger cable/adapter isn't a hardship. That's not true for A510 proprietary adapter.

>that leads me to conclude that you can just utilize a phone charger to charge it aswell but it will go slower since its only a 5v charger for the phone.

Hence my request for Lisa G to test for 5V charging from a standard micro-USB connector. Even if it works at 5V, and with standard micro-USB, phone chargers won't have enough oomph. You'd need an iPad charger for the 2A draw.

>looks like the price on the iconia is back up to $450 @ amazon. oh well..i missed out..but not a big deal.

Yep. I'll look for it on BF at @250-300, same as last year's.. Actually, A500 hit $200 for last year's BF.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
$250 - $300? you think it will go down that far? I guess you would have to be the first 20 people in through the door.
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
I plugged the A510 into my Samsung Galaxy SII family 1 amp 5v charger. It charged 1 percent in an hour (tablet was turned on but sleeping). Just barely better than nothing, I'd say.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
>It charged 1 percent in an hour (tablet was turned on but sleeping). Just barely better than nothing, I'd say.

I appreciate the effort. It shows that regular USB charging works, albeit slower. The +1% is probably not accurate enough to be indicative of the charging rate, and likely would fare better with a 2A charger. Hopefully an A510 owner will try a full charge on 5V,2A and report the required-time results. Thanks again.
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
Did you see the pictures I added to my post about the sdcard? I wonder if it looks like the one that was flush or the one that wasn't. It's seriously the one thing that bugs me on the prime and the reason I went ahead and ordered the a510 (thankfully, this morning) to try also.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
Once you go Prime, there's no other good time ;) Smile lol. :p
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
I read somewhere if you attempt to plug in a regular usb charger you could short out the circuit board.

That is why they made the port different.

But someone here has the A510 so they could better answer the question

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
I just stopped by a Best Buy to see what they had.

Of course they did not have any new models in.

But I finally got to see the old Asus TF200 and an Acer A200 (I think that was the model).

Unless these two tablets were 8 inches screens, I was surprised at how small they were. I've had an iPad in my hands and that seemed much larger.

Am I missing something?

I actually liked both, I know that the two models we are comparing in this forum are cheaper versions with more plastic.

Of course, both units were not powered on because the batteries were probably not charged up.

But they did feel great in my hands, better actually than an iPad.

So back to deciding if the keyboard dock be the feature that wins this or the ring software.

I wonder if you can apply a different launcher on tablets like you can on the phones?

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] drvsbsm:
of course you can ADW Launcher, GO Launcher, ect. just type in launchers for tablets in Google.

In the review what caught my attention was that the Transformer TF300T-B1-BL took better pics, did they use a new camera lens? I wish the docks were inter-changeable Asus could have made maybe some more money from transformer users. Yeah they make money from the docks but If someone pays $150 for a dock they should at least let the user use them with that line-up for that series.

The A510 did look crisper but I think that might have been a camera issue or setting. I know sometimes when you get that screen flicker watching a review it means something to do with the frames on one devices is running faster per second, something to do with your camera not keeping up with the frames of the tablet or the other way around? Not exactly sure how that goes though?

I like the extra battery of the a510 because hell now my prime is only getting about 6+ hours since the last upgrade. Wifi is eating up my battery like crazy, my WiFi eats my battery more than anything even the screen at 30%. before update I was getting about 8 hours. running 1.2ghz.

UPDATE: I have a Champagne model prime and the GPS adapter showed up today works excellent, don't look bad, it locked in to 10 satellites pretty quick inside the house. Another good thing it plays nice with my case (Acase). Thanks for fixing that Asus, Now fix the battery drainage issue! I have to say this last prime I got has been a pretty good one before the last upgrade as mentioned above. C1 Model, although C3 would have been better. Does anyone know when they are planning to release the next upgrade? I heard that they were suppose to soon.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
The only real complaint I have with the prime with everyday use is the constant freezing. Specially during browsing but happens when I'm opening app or typing. I'm thinking 300 might suffer the same as it seems to be asus related. Lisa mentioned in her video that she only saw it 1 time within a week period on the acer 510. Happens on my prime every time I use it.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
i thought it was the other way around. it would make more sense since the charger is 12v for the a510 so if you plug that into your phone which is wanting a 5v it would fry the phone. but if you put in your 5v into the 12v charger there shouldn't be any issues. it would just go slow.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
i was corrected. 300 still has no flash though or torch mode so no real low light or nighttime pics/videos
[Transformer TF300T General] Ready2Mosh:
I'm curious what the bonnie ++ scores are on the 300 since it uses ddr3.
[Transformer TF300T General] atiatinini:
You're wrong, F/2.2 is actually better than F/2.4, since it's a bigger aperture. ;)
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
>It shows a 32gb so is this still $399

It's a boilerplate placeholder; the specs are all wrong. I wouldn't put much stock in it.

FYI, per FCC report, TF300 has worse antenna gain than Prime. This usually means worse wifi performance.
[Transformer TF300T General] chivas228:
I wonder if Asus would ever make an addition to our Prime into something like this:

yeah, it's old news but think about it. Asus already has the TF's ready for docking. convert the keyboard to something a little bigger for a phone, HD and a solar charger (since the keyboard already has a battery) and a flip up screen (touchscreen most likely) and they're set.

Not really too out of the imagination for the Prime (or any of the TF series) to pull this off.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
that's what I thought also but Asus Global site has advertisement for 7in. Memo tablet up there. so its confusing as to what they really doing.

exactly and FCC report clearly stated that its wifi &BT can't work simultaneously.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
good thing i waited. if this is truly at $399..i don't care if tis 32GB or 16GB..i'll get this for that price. i wonder when the expected release date is. i'm okay with a ticker/heavier tablet than the prime as long as i get the functionality out of it. if this comes out with a tegra 3 and is competing with the ipad2, Asus wins hands down.

lol this is funny:

Product Dimensions: 10.4 x 0.4 x 7.1 inches ; 1.4 pounds

Shipping Weight: 1 pounds

its 1.4 lbs but ships at 1lb.
[Transformer TF300T General] The_Stranger:
They ship it in a helium filled box....
[Transformer TF300T General] jdmcconnell:
Followed the link and read the FCC statement, but, a quick test on my TF201 Transformer Prime shows that I can stream music from Google Music and play it thru my bluetooth headset without any problems. That's all I care about. I also use my tablet with both Skype, Google Talk and GrooveIP to do voice and video chat and make phone calls, all while using my bluetooth headset. Works for me.
[Transformer TF300T General] wynand32:
Only thing is, we don't actually know pricing yet. I'd be surprised if the TF700 isn't less than $599 at this point...
[Transformer TF300T General] NeoteriX:
I'll just point out here that AnandTech's recent independent benchmarking has verified the 2-3x GPU advantage of the iPad3's A5X: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/apple-ipad-2012-review/15

And even then, the A5x shows that it doesn't necessarily have what it takes for the A5x's enormous resolution.

AnandTech makes the final relevant comment:
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
you should look at the following pages. benchmarking isn't the way it used to be:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/apple-ipad-2012-review/16
[Transformer TF300T General] Erusman:
Hey thanks. Yes won't be long now for TF700. I see Acer Iconia A510 is at amazon as well. A510 suppose to have longer battery life as well.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
Ooooh, if it had a dock I would have placed my order...LOL...

Initially I could not decide on the 300 or 700... but finally made a decision to wait out the TF700; it looks so much like the prime ;)
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
according to an email from a Jr. technical marketing manager/rep, Hai, he said new 700 model has no plans for a north America release yet and that it wont be released anywhere till the end of the year.

someone made a thread on it and posted the exact email on it. that's one helluva wait..lol thread is called email from Asus or something similar.

here's the link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1581148
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
I guess it be a loss for Asus. Im sure there other brands that gets release will match or outperform the TF201 before the year is over. Who know future batches of the TF201 can be actually worth buying.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
As you have clearly seen by the sheer number of satisfied primes owners in this forum and polled, Prime is more than well worth buying now. it took me only 1 purchase to get a great unit. i guess some people just have bad luck..lol ;)
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
I expected it might be awhile so I purchased the TF101 with dock and a Samsung Galaxy Tab+ (little powerhouse) to keep me busy...:) I'm actually quite content!

BTW I am quite familiar with the marketing (pr) machine; I tend to take the message funneled to the consumer with a grain of salt.
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
Any good reviews of the Iconia A510 yet guys??
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
Probably just a sheer streak of bad luck. Even the one I RMA'ed and stated NO GPS and Weak wifi, even the parts they replaced had no improvement. Even Hai from Asus stated on the other thread, even the newer batch he tested are only good for fifteen feet away from the router and drops significantly afterwards. If nothing interest me in June, Ill have a go again at the prime since I know I can return it if I still see there is no improvement.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
they took out the usb port for the A510 otherwise you could just plug in a normal keyboard.
[Transformer TF300T General] CycleGeek:
I saw that and I was surprised to see that Asus appears to be fine with making pretty much no revenue to cover the cost of their tablet development until later in the year. Seriously - how are you going to explain away a six month delay between introducing a product and getting it into stores?
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
IKR. I think they may surprise everyone and release early. The Padfone today is in all the tech headlines. It will make its original April 20th. release date or something. They are taking pre orders now or about to. That thing is very expensive for the whole set up though(phone, tablet, keyboard dock). Phone alone costs like $610..lol
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
so its lower the number the better? because 2.4>2.2 if lower is better then makes sense on the 300 since no flash.
[Transformer TF300T General] atiatinini:
Yeah, the slash on F/2.2 actually stands for a division, so the lower the number the bigger is the aperture. :) See for yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
i believe you. thanks for the correction. learned something new. both devices still take great pics though. my prime cam is better than my moto 5mp cam..lol

cant wait till these mobile devices start getting optical zoom for clarity vs. digital zoom, which always degrades the quality.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Reading Wikipedia smaller number means larger aperture and allows more light. Maybe that's why no flash. Damn it Asus.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
same with my evo 3d. Its just too bad I don't really take pics with my tablet.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
IMO, a photo camera on a tablet is superfluous and only practical if your dedicated camera and phone are not working.
[Transformer TF300T General] z_zk_z:
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[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
Yep, that matches the one that was not flush.

The first tablet (C1O) I purchased in February did not stick out like that. Your device matches the ill fitting card on the second device (C2O) I called Asus about and a RMA was created. I ended up returning it instead because of the wifi issue.

I wish I had taken pictures. Maybe another forum member who has a good device can post a picture of their slot?
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Do you mean to say that the new Asus TF300 will not have the problem of the microSD card sticking out.

I am leaning toward the Asus TF300 because of the keyboard dock, but then that microSD card sticking out has me really concerned since I would immediately be putting a 32gb card in there to start.

I was wondering if I could shave off some of the plastic on the card itself but that would be stupid if I really had to do that.

But if the actual shipping models don't have the card sticking out, then this might be what I'll pick, even though I like the Acer A510 a little more. That keyboard dock is so compelling.

Did the price go up on all the websites, I thought this was supposed to be priced at $379?

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] Cyclone999:
The 16GB version is supposed to be $379.99 and the 32GB version $399.99. The 32GB version is the one retailers seem to have right now.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
Have no idea about the TF300, we are discussing the TF201.

Personally, I would not shave down the card to fit a device. What if you need to use it in another product later or if it should develop problems you will not be covered under product warranty. When I talked to Asus tech support it was acknowledged the card was supposed to fit inside the slot (flush). I don't know what they are doing with the new prime product now, I sent back my second and final unit in March. If I receive my next device from Asus (infinity) with a port that makes the card stick out I'm sending it right back.

The transformer does not have this issue nor did one of the two primes I received. Asus must be having some real problems with tf201 parts and/or build.:eek:
[Transformer TF300T General] SalemSwift:
I think I read earlier in this thread that you didn't get to try the keyboard/dock hands-on, yet. I've been lurking a while, waiting for reviews of the Infinity, but I also watch the 300 and a510. I got to play with an older Transformer and dock today. I immediately decided the keyboard is not enough to sway my decision between an Acer or ASUS model, particularly when the new a510 packs what I assume is now a class leading battery.

The ASUS keyboard/dock was comically tiny imo, and I'm a relatively small guy, 5'8" with long, skinny fingers. My very first thought after typing with it was, "Wow, I'll be buying a bluetooth keyboard." I typed a couple paragraphs in Polaris Office and I got the sense that if I were trying to be genuinely productive and type a few pages, my fingers would start to ache.

I just wanted to add a personal observation. I'd recommend trying to get some hands on time before allowing that component to be your deciding factor.
[Transformer TF300T General] TeMpTiN:
Will the TF300 be getting its own section

Well I have tracking and should have my 300 in hand tomorrow.

Wounder if we will get our own section by then?
[Transformer TF300T General] gaetanolip:
Hi,

what about tf300 downclocked gpu (400 mhz)? Is it still capable to play h264 5.1 high profile 1080p videos at 40 mbs like prime does ( gpu clocked at 500 mhz)? Do you think that gpu will be overclocked by modders'
[Transformer TF300T General] TeMpTiN:
Don't know but if I have time tomorrow I will try to find out.

If its possible I am sure some one will. It might take a few hours though. It real helps development to have the unit in hand.
[Transformer TF300T General] gaetanolip:
I am waiting for your test on video capabilities, much much much.....

Will you able to play a 1080p youtube video in browser ( not youtube app)?

Will you able to play this http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/h264_1080p_hp_4.1_40mbps_birds.mkv

and http://www.dvdloc8.com/clip.php?movieid=13599&clipid=4

with dice player or other specific apps using hardware acceleration ???

Thanks a lot
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
OK I got my hands on next week best buy ad and front page is the tf300 guess they will start getting them this week to sell Sunday or start selling them mid this week will upload pic later once am home. For anyone who wants to get one from them