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[Transformer TF300T General] fixyourtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5588/the-asus-transformer-pad-300-series

The shell is plastic instead of metal so the wifi should get a better signal hopefully
[Transformer TF300T General] rorytmeadows:
Trying to fit the logic here...how in the world would that make it better...?

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Transformer TF300T General] bluewr:
The all metal blocks RD signal, thus reducing Wifi and GPS capabalities(As can be seen in various topic where people opened their prime)

The Plastic Shell of the T300 and Plastic strip on top of TF Infinity should address the All metal back of the Prime.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
@yhzhrm - thanks for adding the link!

The 300T is probably actually the TF201.2 dialed down a smidge (16GB & plastic vs. metal back) for conversation/lawsuit and the infinity is more the TF301 thanks to the improved glass & resolution. :) At least that's my initial impression.

I returned my primes (#1 a dud, #2 was worse than #1) along with the dock. Purchased the TF101 instead and am very happy with it. I plan to purchase the infinity when/if it is released with good feedback. Also picked up a samsung galaxy tab+ as a reader and boy is that thing amazing.

I love toys! But they must work as described or it's a quick phone call for an RMA. I do not have the patience for buggy appliances.
[Transformer TF300T General] rorytmeadows:
Yes, but you're not removing the metal shell like the 700 aims to do with a hybrid. The replacement of the full metal shell with a black&tan option essentially actually makes sense (albeit extremely unattractive, but makes sense). Simply replacing some of the density of the model with plastic will take away from the thickness and still present a close-to-card metal shell. The 201 is the thinnest on the market, and frankly it feels good saying that it's thinner and lighter than the iPad. The thickness of the 300 is greater than the iPad 2. This is all important for those of us that have functioning Wifi strengths.

Also, F*** plastic cases. I didn't buy a Fisher-Price tablet so it shouldn't feel like one.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
NEWS FLASH PEOPLE..lol. the FCC document showing this device, TF-300T and diagram clearly states wifi/BT share the same antennae and effect each other when used at the same time. So don't expect BT and wifi being used at the same time to be any better than prime. strange how we do have people who owns primes where it works fine for them simultaneously. even streaming audio and watching moving through internet by wifi connection.

quote from FCC on tf-300t

" (2) BT & WLAN can’t work simultaneously, thus simultaneous mode is no need."

here is the FCC website source for you to look. its the Exhibit type RF exposure info. its the PDF file 3rd from the bottom. sorry to burst some bubbles on this.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...application_id=502076&fcc_id='MSQTF300TNH615'

also new Infinity pad aka tf-700 will have exact same metal backing as the prime. except for a plastic strip up top.
[Transformer TF300T General] fixyourtech:
Whatever, at only 399 I'll take it over the 599 for the "infinity"
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
nothing wrong with that. that's why Asus is bringing different price options. some may not need all the bells n whistles of infinity pad. I still think prime best value for the most features but the TF-300 will be a good device also. I love all the diffent colors like the blue and white one.

don't forget Asus is also bringing out a 7in. tablet which will be even cheaper. will have a built in pen also. its called the Memo. Then you have the rumored Google Nexus 7in. tablet to be creates by Asus with tegra3 in it.

I really like the Asus Padfone. its 3-1. Transforms from a phone into a tablet into a netbook.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
You know I am looking at the specs and the new red color and thinking the exact same!! I kept my prime accessories because i planned to purchase the new model (after bugs sorted) anyway. And Ive noticed the 300T has the exact same measurements as the prime so all is good.

The TF101 is also a plastic case and is quite strong. It looks great and works as described!
[Transformer TF300T General] rorytmeadows:
Blue and white? Really? Eww.

The Padfone is nice, but you'll be tied to whatever carrier picks it up. In the US, I'd bet money it's crappy Hitler-like AT&T. Pass.

I'll also pass on 7 inchers. I've seen the greatness that is the 10 incher and don't see a need for something exactly between my phone and tablet. If you don't own either, I guess it makes sense, but I wouldn't recommend a 7 incher to someone without both for many reasons.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
Umm wasnt the memo getting scraped and in its place the Google NExus.

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Actually the TF300T is thicker slightly..
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
It shows a 32gb so is this still $399? Thats a great deal if it is. Just like some of us that got our primes for 399 at hhgregg.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
Wow,

Luckily, the IPS +/- really does not matter to me. Developing support, also don't need. Again, these are only toys for me. So far as flash, LOL, I don't take pictures with a tablet, I actually have three very nice digital cameras. GPS dongle, don't need...I have a very nice garmin device and a little tomtom used when traveling.

My point is that I when I want a device for a specific reason I purchase that device not a 2in1 or 3in1....

You guys take this thing much too seriously.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
very well stated and that's all that matters. its what suites your needs. the normal consumer isn't concerned with all the xda extras. 300 should do well for you then.

at least root it though ;)
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
+1 Sounds like my house. :-) Thanks for your viewpoint.
[Transformer TF300T General] TheWerewolf:
Couple of issues with this benchmark. First, it tests the GPU through the OpenGL interfaces. On the iPad, this is going through native code while on Android, it's going through the Dalvik VM.

I'm also not sure how equal the use of multi-GPU is. Given that the Tegra 3 has 12 GPUs and the A5X has 4, in a test that utilises ALL GPUs equally, for the two chipsets to just be equal in performance means each GPU on the Tegra is no more than 1/3 the performance of a GPU on the A5X. Given that nVidia is a video chipset company, I find it a weeee bit hard to buy that they could have screwed up that much.

Then there's the Geekbench benchmarks that show the Prime as being about 3x faster than than the A5X across the board, except GPU where on a per GPU basis, the Tegra's GPU isn't as fast, but it's not that much slower - and having three times as many - not surprisingly - makes the chip overall 3x faster.
[Transformer TF300T General] Moist:
Just found this on engadget:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2537...e_transformer_pad_300_tablet_on_april_22.html

22 April. That's quite soon :)

Edit: Just saw it's been posted before but from another site. I guess this just shows as confirmation.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
>Developing support, also don't need.

So no big deal if no Jelly Belly vendor updates?

TF300 gets released in spring. Jelly Beeswax drops by fall (hopefully, eh?). So about 6 months of use before TF300 hits the glue factory. eBay? Hand-me-down? Or just sit it out until the Koko-puff release?
[Transformer TF300T General] Erusman:
Yes.. read that too over there on engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/13/asus-reportedly-to-release-transformer-pad-300-on-april-22nd/

22nd of April expected release date for TF300.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Soon enough well get to see this thing in action. The I/O speed is what interests me. Where did i see someone having the blue unit already?
[Transformer TF300T General] tlswofud:
Is this worth to sell my samsung galaxy tab 10.1?

Can you do a comparison between gtab and tf300?

would it be an upgrade in every area? or is there a downgrade in some areas?

how much upgrade is it from tf101?
[Transformer TF300T General] Gizmo123:
I had one. You could see it in action in my casual YouTube preview.

As for I/O speeds, i can provide you with Quadrant scores.

http://img.benchmark.rs/tests/incoming/Gizmo/quadrant.jpg
[Transformer TF300T General] Ziocomposite:
I Wonder if the LTE version is running the s4 =/.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
Prime scored higher with 3,998 on I/0 score compared to 300 best score of 3894. Prime memory scored higher with 3987 compared to 300 best of 2980. Prime killed 300 on the CPU and 2D scores. Prime scored a little bit higher on 3D but 300 did good on that also. Both are Performance mode comparisons. Stock Rom set up and not Unlocked. No custom rom/Kernel/or I/O tweaks.

Its not looking like 300 I/O is faster than Primes, as some people hoped ;) Like I said before, it can't be compared to prime spec wise or it'll always lose. this is more of a how much you willing to spend kinda thing. if you not concerned with having the top of the line, most powerful device Asus offers, get a 300. If you want the top of the line for only $50 more(new listed prime price seen online of $499 compared to 32gb 300 @ 399), then get a prime.

I would get an Asus 300 over any other competitor tablet though. after prime, 300 will be next best until other newer tablets released.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
There is absolutely no way I would purchase another prime, no matter how good the feedback on the new product (C4, C5, C6.hmmm.LOL). If I wanted a top of the line Asus I would wait a few months for the 700 release. Or, look at another brand.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
i guess april 22nd is the date.

update: oops someone already posted that link. sounds good. anyone think there will be a rush on these like there was on the prime?

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you mean a $100 difference..if it was $50 i would go with the prime. i don't have to get a tablet until about may 10th or so..i might wait and see but then again its taking 3 - 4 weeks to ship.

without looking at dev support how would you compare the acer iconia a510 to the 300? Should the acer be better? That is $50 more.
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
I guess bj.com is already sold out on preorders, but looks 22nd of this month is the date for the 300.

http://www.bjs.com/asus-transformer-pad-tf300t-101-android-tablet-with-nvidia-tegra-3-processor-1gb-ddr3-32gb-flash---blue.product.217665?sc_cid=affil

Out of stock already here at portableone.com:

http://www.portableone.com/_e/dept/07-011/ASUS_TF300T_10_1_Tablet.htm

Office depot.com has them available:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/450853/ASUS-Transformer-TF300T-B1-BL-101/

From this article:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/253796/asus_to_ship_quadcore_transformer_pad_300_tablet_on_april_22.html
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
bj's said that from the very beginning.
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
Office depot is available online
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
Yes! I sold Galaxy Tab 10.1 as Tegra 2 was not able to play high def MKV files at all without LOADS of stuttering and Tegra 3 has no problem with these at all....for that alone I would upgrade.

Cheers,

M
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
From our inner geek perspective, you are 100% right, but most consumers want everything "just to work" and not require any tweaks. Factor that with the huge Apple ecosystem and the new iPad has an amazing display (much better than even the great display Prime), it will and is killing current Android tablets for most consumers. Proof is in sales as far as what most consumers prefer, so not a feature to feature issues for most.

That said, if the 300 is 32gb has IPS and priced at $400, I will take that over the Prime and its weak wifi. I tried two Primes and same weak results with wifi.

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My guess is through binning, they have lower clocked Tegra 3 chips, since too expense to manage two separate production designs when a LOT cheaper to just gate the chip at a lower speed. My guess is the same lower clocked Tegra 3 is what will also be in phones pretty soon.

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Not to mention the Acer A500 had even worse wifi than the Prime, due to the aluminum panel design, but only one antenna (Prime has two to help offset the issue).

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For some though the Prime is like a BMW with bald tires, due to weak wifi performance. In regards to the gain issue, Gizmo already reported the 300's wifi is better than the Prime and has a 300 at the moment.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
good one. fair enough. key words being "for some" as I've never had wifi issues with prime. Either at home or traveling using wifi tether or hooking on another network outside my home one. But for people to think the 300 or any tech device will release w/o issues isn't smart at all and setting themselves up big time. 300 will do good but will have issues of its own. Or possibly even related ones. All tech devices have their growing pains.

Just glad I don't have to worry about it with my device. I already own a Prime that works well and performs great on wireless performance. This now even includes GPS(people going to be in for a big surprise with Dongle performance. Been thoroughly testing it. In home & driving. Hopefully be able to release testing results soon. GPS buffs gonna luv it) ;)

I'm keeping prime till Tegra4 devices release at the end of the year. Nothing else appeals and that'll be the "True" upgrade worth waiting for.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Prime is a fine device. No debate.
[Transformer TF300T General] superflysocal:
Size wise will the 300 be similar to tf101 or slightly thinner? What about weight comapred to 101?

I know it is thicker than prime and weighs a little more.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
slightly thinner and lighter than OG transformer. which is a good thing.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
I agree with you that the prime vs the ipad 3 the ipad 3 wins. but you gotta remember that the prime came out for the ipad 2 and i have to say that it beats the ipad 2 by a mile. the transformer infinity will be the true ipad 3 competitor.

i do think that they should lower the price of the prime down from $499. they are going to lose to apple when it comes down to the same price because of what you said. if they had it at $350..i think that would be a good price point to make people think about which one they buy. I don't get why they still have it at $499. The retina display on the ipad 3 makes it a better buy even for the geek in me. if apple has you beat on hardware and price..you know you are in trouble.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Good points. Speaking of the 700, I wonder if it will have the Tegra 3 or something with a new gpu? Anandtech benchmarks suggest the higher res display will be too much for the gpu
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
Counting on this :-) Mine will be here Tuesday!!

Not sure how long it will last, but Champagne color is in stock on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067PLNRQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
wifi version already said to have tegra3 in it. LTE will have S4. Tegra3 will be able to handle the 700 resolution just fine. spec on tegra3 actually allows support for a resolution the same as apples new Ipad. plus 300 will be clocked alot higher out the box also. there are 5 different versions of tegra3 chip. some are more powerful than others. with the ones being used on Prime and infinity pad being able to be clocked the highest.

Don't doubt tegra3 power. we haven't even scratched the surface of what's capable with it yet. Software need to catch up to be able to exploit its full potential.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
@Gizmo123

Have you had time for extended use of the TF300? I'm wondering what the OS stability situation looks like. ICS on Prime has had ongoing major issues, from games crashing to browser error msgs. Would like to hear if you've experienced these, and perhaps others, on the TF300.

Second, have you done an outdoor/driving test for the GPS in the TF300?

Last, can you check with your Asus contact and see if bootloader unlock will be available for TF300?

TIA.
[Transformer TF300T General] Dandarebr:
Does anyone knows if the 3G version will be available as well on April 22?

Thanks
[Transformer TF300T General] hlenforcer:
the specs say, that the gpu is capable of outputting a signal up to this resolution, that really does not mean that the gpu is capable of rendering high quality content at this resolution at the performance side ... desktop gpus 8-10 years ago also had teh capability of outputting a signal at this high resolution but playing a 3d game or watching 3d video at this resolution was unimaginable.

btw there are 2 main versions of tegra 3, t30 and t33, the additional available editions are only variants with additional radios equipped to the SoC, Transformer Prime uses t30 which is specified to run at 4x1,3ghz, same with transformer pad 300, but downclocked to 1,2ghz and the tf700 will be the first tablet equipped with the faster t33 version, like i read it seems that the gpu also gets a higher clock in this version.

the advantage of tegra 3 really only is the availability of 4 cores instead of 2, the architecture is very low-tech with its 40nm cortex a9 cores ... thats the reason it gets bashed by qualcomm s4 dual core on the cpu-side ... for me, the raw power is very disappointing which causes the need for high-level optimizations to get proper performance on modern applications ...
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
good info BUT it was discovered older primes actually use Ap30H tegra3 Variant and newer models are using the T30 variant. look in developement section, in motley kernel thread, where I detailed all 5 tegra3 versions and what devices supported them. Plus Motley, the developer, said he has seen in several peoples codings, differences in tegra3 chips. Be is noticing older models using AP30H variant and newer ones using T30 variant. we discuussed it in his thread late last night. very interesting to find out Asus switched tegra3 versions production. thing is the AP30H model has a stock Max supported speed of 1.6hz. the T30L(used in new 300 model and possibly newer prime models) version has stock Max speed of 1.2Ghz.

There are actually 5 different versions of tegra3 out in the wild. the top versions being T33(Infinity Pad) & AP30H(found in transformer prime). both have the highest possible Stock supported clock speeds of 1.6Ghz. That's why as soon as we got ICS for Prime, we discovered 1.6Ghz was already supported in the stock kernel. it was just a matter of rooting and enabling it. This was the the prime really should've been at. Asus scaled back likely to preserve battery life. plus make future Infinity pad look good since it will be clocked higher out the box. prime had to root to enable same speed. 1.6Ghz is the "True" speed prime should've been released at. It was already in stock kernel so Asus already knew and tested this. they wanted the longer batter life. if you look at infinity pad(1.6ghz out the box) spec, its battery is slightly beefed up and still won't get as good battery life as prime. Higher stock speed and high Res. screen main culprits. Still good battery life though.

1)Infinity Pad uses T33 tegra3..Max clock stock of 1.6Ghz

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a333t&c=nvidia_tegra_3_t33

2)Transformer prime uses AP30H Tegra3..Max stock clock of 1.6Ghz

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a3004t&c=nvidia_tegra_3_ap30h

3)Transformer Pad 300 uses T30L tegra3...Max stock speed of 1.2Ghz

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a3003t&c=nvidia_tegra_3_t30l

4)HTC One X uses AP33H Tegra3 @ Max stock speed of 1.5Ghz supported.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a33aph&c=nvidia_tegra_3_ap33h

5)ZTE 98 & ZTE PF100 tablets will use T30S tegra3 @ Max stock speed of 1.5Ghz

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a3003ts&c=nvidia_tegra_3_t30s

On any of those links, just scroll down and press the tab that says "Browse all devices based on that chip". then you will see other tablets coming out that will use that chipset also
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
So, am I understanding that the Prime I receive *may* have the same Tegra version as is in the TF300? How are you able to determine which chipset is in the device?

(btw: I've decided to stick around :-))
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
The prime always comes with the better Tegra 3. The new one will have the more economical one.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
if you go into developement section and check out Motley kernel thread, he points out what you can do to determine which chipset is in your prime. its crazy that this is possible and could easily explain why several units had issues after an update and others didn't. They could actually be 2 different tegra3 chip versions floating around in peoples prime. Motley said he noticed older units used AP30H and newer ones using T30. he found all this out through prime tegra3 coding in several peoples units. its all very confusing actually. check his thread out ;)

glad to see you're sticking around. make sure to register and order your free GPS dongle..lmao.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Please do not take too much stock in there being distinctly different versions of the Tegra 3 as far as models. Due to economy of scale and binning yields, the only main difference is probably the clock speed and the marketing efforts OEMs use to sell their product.

Added. That said, what if there is a version with a more robust gpu to support the higher res Infinity?......

Seems needed, considering the size of the A5X gpu and why it was needed (to support the high volume of pixels). Huge difference in video output to high def and also supporting data calculations and geometry through the gpu.

My verbose point being, Apple would not spend mega millions in development and BOM costs in the A5X and the big gpu, if not needed to support the display.
[Transformer TF300T General] NMRSpec:
Maybe that is why the rumor that there is no plan for the Infinity until the end of the year exists: Tegra 4! However, I am not really interested in the Infinity. I'm much more interested in the 300 or the acer a510, but the lack of quad core optimized apps is making me hesitant. I'm definitely excited to see how people like the 300 once it is released. I don't have a smartphone, and I am looking to buy a tablet. I might wait it out until Tegra 4 though.
[Transformer TF300T General] agtitan:
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T...YAPK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334615654&sr=8-1

in stock at "spicy bomb" amazon seller
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
for $489..thats okay....also why are they all blue? why can't they have the white or red ones?
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
This happens all the time; just the usual private seller on the marketplace taking advantage of buyers.

Just have a bit of patience until amazon gets product in stock. The wait should not be too long now. I’m also excited to see the red and white; will probably take a special trip to best buy to see them in person.
[Transformer TF300T General] TerraWan:
What about the keyboard docks? Will the TF300 get a new keyboard dock or will we be able to use the TF200 keyboard docks as well?

Was just wondering as it might mean we can buy 2nd hand the dock from unsatisfied TF200 users.

Is there any idea about the price of the TF300 dock? Will it be $149?
[Transformer TF300T General] bgm307:
Available at Amazon this morning. Ships within 10 to 13 days.
[Transformer TF300T General] redjersey:
anyone knows how to order/pre-order this in canada?
[Transformer TF300T General] Dandarebr:
Any news on 3G version?