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[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
With a custom kernel and tweaks it will surpass that 12k...
[Transformer TF300T General] gaetanolip:
that thread refers to external SD Cards.

We are talking about internal disk speed. Prime ( it is not sure if it is a sofware or hardware problem, but there are software tweaks that improve disk performance)

har poor INTERNAL disk performance so i ask if it is the same with T300 ( it seems so...)
[Transformer TF300T General] gchild320:
Root took all of 3 seconds. CWM wouldn't boot though since its for prime.
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
Someone has to make it work for the Internal memory... I'm not a dev... It can be done.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Hey everybody,

I got some pictures of my battery stats on 10% and 5%, this is after the out box charge of 8hrs. I used the tablet on balanced performance 90% of the time, and it was used moderately. What do I mean by this? Well I played some games: ShadowGun THD and Dark Meadows (maybe for an hour between both of them), played baseball superstars 2012 (15-20 mins), played drawsomething (30-45 mins); I watched streaming videos (youtube, hulu plus for 30 mins). The other stuff was done surfing the web , taking several pictures and short videos. I got around 7.5hrs until it shut off, I think it was pretty good for the first time, so I just did my first full cycle and hoping it will get better. Also I found that the low performance setting works pretty good for doing web surfing, reading tapatalk, etc. I'm going to try to use the low performance setting as much as I can and see what I get. Right now im at 95% and it says that wifi has been on for 50mins and the screen for 40+mins (pretty damn good for me :P). I noticed in my stats something strange, the wifi on stat has about 4 more hrs than the awake and screen on stats. Although we have the default turn off wifi when going to sleep, it seems apps are still waking the pad from time to time to sync, so I went into setting turn off all sync except my gmail mail sync. Also I turn off wifi when I'm not going to use my tablet for a while. I expect all these changes get up to 10hrs or maybe a bit more. And now evidence: the first image is at 10% and the second one at 5% look closely at the wifi on and wifi running, don't what is the difference, but it seems if we have wifi on it still drains battery although its not running.

I'm pretty happy about its first performance :D
[Transformer TF300T General] TXKSSnapper:
So.. for those of us who did update the firmware.. Does anyone know if we could get the downgrade method for the prime/original transformer to work? We would need a .17 blob to try and the only thing I can find about obtaining blobs is to pull them from the update file, which we don't have since it was the first firmware released...
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
benchmarks I've seen done on the 300 so far show the disk read speeds the same as prime. I think its software related. custom kernels/roms should be able to address it. the ones with memory freaks/optimizations

changing SD cache size is not the same as internal memory. its not that simple as just making it work with internal memory. like I said above, custom kernels/roms will improve this.

what people, with 300, can try is to install an app called ATP Tweaks. its made by a member here and its in the prime themes & apps section. For the people still experiencing slowdowns during market downloads. it slows down because that process is given priority over others. ATP tweaks allows you to change the I/O schedulers. 300 should be Noop by default, like prime. you can change it within the app to see if it improves things on your side. its at the top of the screen. if you already have ezoverclock installed, don't go messing with the Turbo modes in ATP tweaks. you will mess up the overclocking likely. those Turbo modes are overclocking in that app. turbo1 is 1.5Ghz. turbo2 is 1.6Ghz. but if the other app is installed, no need to mess with those modes. you can change the scheduler at the very top of the screen. if it doesn't seem to improve things, you can change it back. ATP tweaks also allows you to install/enable other modules/drivers that aren't on your device by default. like support for certain controllers/steering wheels and other things. just look at description in ATP tweaks thread to see all there different things you could do. I would think most of it will work on the 300 also.
[Transformer TF300T General] gaetanolip:
you are right.

but atp tweak ests ram and power, kernel and other tweaks will improve but will not completely solve.

So, i'm asking myself if t300 is worth rather than buying acer a510...
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
good point BUT it hasn't really been confirmed or shown if the acer510 doesn't suffer from the same thing. I haven't seen memory benchmarks for the Acer510 to show that its disk read/write speeds are actually better than primes or 300. so it's a risk to take also.

seriously though, some get caught up in the numbers too much. the 300 will still perform just fine even in stock configuration. Some see a number lower on one device vs. the next different device and assume something is wrong. I'd still say the 300 is the better option. IMO, it will have more developer support than the Acer. definitely more company support. I think its more of a software issue that needs addressing. which Asus could easily fix through an update. its just that no one has really brought the slow read/write disk speeds up to them yet. or developers can solve this through custom kernels/roms. it has already been done on the prime, for those running custom, so it can be done for 300 also once its developement kicks off.

good luck on deciding which to get.

WARNING: people who root 300 on .17, make sure you use voodoo OTA rootkeeper, free in marketplace, to save/backup your root file. this should be the first thing to do IMMEDIATELY after rooting. you will hate yourself if you don't..lmao. you've been warned ;)
[Transformer TF300T General] gaetanolip:
you are right for the second time, even if a510 vs t300 is a personal opinion.

Anyway, i don't care much about numbers ( benchmark) , so i ask every owner if you can check to download-install apps from market while surfing internet , and copyng big files from an external source into internal memory, all at the same time.

Does The system slowdown?

Thanks
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
I am a little lost at the point on the I/O speed throughput debate for memory, since the 300 and 510 are both fast devices that make my Thrive seem like the Viewsonic Gtablet on a bad day. BOTH are sweet.

Even the Prime's occasional lag that some point out seems a little suspect to me and more to do with the stock OS, rather than the hardware.
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
I am rooted on my TF300 but The overclocking stuff is not working......

I tried EZoverclock as suggested and its made me run at 1.1GHZ the whole time.

I tried antutu overclock and it did the same. Thoughts on whats going on here?
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
I sold mine and haven't looked back... Craigslist list yours for 250 and get an extra 100 bux, you won't regret it.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
Its a sotware thing. needs more tweaking & optimizations.

Ill reply to this shortly..too much to type on my phone.
[Transformer TF300T General] BoomerM3:
Maps keeps starting. Why?

Even after I kill the app, 'maps' restarts. It begins on startup and keeps re-starting.

Is there a way to prevent this - without deleting the app?
[Transformer TF300T General] rickpref:
how about go into Settings-Applications, then find Maps and clear data and/or cache. See if that fixes it.
[Transformer TF300T General] EvoXOhio:
If rooted you can do this via the Autostarts app. I do this on all my devices because Maps always starts for no reason.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Anyone knows if I do a factory reset do I go back to .17?
[Transformer TF300T General] rickpref:
I was thinking the same thing but I doubt that would work....that's why I had asked about the sdcard speeds, I was backing up and organizing everything I have on the tablet so I can do a factory reset and it took hours.
[Transformer TF300T General] gchild320:
Mine still says no update available...have had it for a week now :confused: .17
[Transformer TF300T General] gaetanolip:
How many hours? How many applications?

Inviato dal mio Transformer TF101 con Tapatalk 2
[Transformer TF300T General] rickpref:
Not really applications..I've been downloading movies, tv shows and albums since I got it and filled it up pretty quickly. Then I was trying to put all my files organized in multiple folders (folder for tv shows, one for movies, one for documentaries, one for music albums, comedians, etc...) Just moving things from the download folder to where I want to put them took a few hours. All of this within the internal 32 GB of the TF300, not like I was copying to a different drive. Normally this should be instantaneous on windows, linux, and the different Android phones I have as well. This is the only devices I have ever seen do this.
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
Wow i appreciate the response. Very thorough, although i am pretty android savy. I still appreciate it though.

I think my issue was i just didn't switch it to performance mode. Although my clocks still seem off......

I oc'ed to 1.5

and cpu spy is showing me only at 1.4 etc.

*EDIT*

No that i am aware, the location i can set the governers, i am going to try antutu again for grins.

See if this fixes my 1.4 vs 1.5 issue.

*EDIT2*

Didnt get that far.

Rebooted. Noticed it didnt got to 1.5 check the governor and it was back to balance, went back to performance and now i am hitting 1.5....

Odd.

*EDIT3*

Total: 12325

Ram: 2441

CPU int: 4295

CPU float: 3350

2d: 299

3d: 1235

Database: 380

SD write: 130

SD read: 195
[Transformer TF300T General] wideopn11:
EZOverclock works for me. CPU spy confirms 1.5 slot being used. I have ezoverclock set to 1.6 but I guess 1.5 is the limit on the stock kernel. Anyone see the 1.6 slot being used?
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
1.5Ghz may be the limit. the 300 uses the T30L tegra3 variant. specs on that particular variant shows 1.5Ghz being the top speed. so it'll make sense if kernel limits it to top speed of 1.5Ghz.

Don't get it twisted, lol, 1.5Ghz is a great speed for your 300 and it'll give better batter life than if you were @ 1.6Ghz.

I saw someone post they had their 300 @ 1.6Ghz but they didn't really confirm or show that with CPU spy. that speed having an active slot in CPU spy is the only way to confirm that. So as of right now, it would be safe to say 1.5Ghz is the highest 300 can go so far on stock kernel. its still a great speed and alot more powerful than if you were stock n not rooted n not overclocked.
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
I am sure that was just the speed in ezoverclock not the actual speed.
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
I run mine on power save mode if I'm not gaming and its smooth.. No real reason to oc it yet., what will be phenomenal is under volting..
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
I ran Dark Meadows on power save mode and it ran flawlessly :D Yep yep under volting would be nice
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Demandarin does this answer the question regarding acer a500 I/O speed? I havent done any testing on my prime so Im not sure what to look for. This was from the a510 thread. I think the last 2 images in his dropbox are the results for a510.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25632599&postcount=209
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
They offer different sizes.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
That's exactly one of the reasons I came on tonight. I was using the built-in backup app and it just copied stuff way too slow. Also, did some copying of files from internal memory to external memory card and that seems why too slow.

I've also been getting some strange lag in certain programs.

I thought I read that Asus's firmware has a problem with this that they are aware of.

I hope that's true and a fix is on the way.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
I noticed this myself but just ignored it because of other stuff. Strange.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] gchild320:
Happened on my Nexus until I installed custom ROMs & kernels. Not specific to this device by any means
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
I hope it doesn't because based on what i seen there, that Acer native disk read & write speeds are worse than prime..lol. I have proof of me scoring alot higher than his his Acer did on I/O. he used CF(chainfire) bench. which is one of the best benchmarks out there. an xda member made it. it doesn't have the fancy stuff like other benches but this one really tests how the device performs.

That guy Acer510 scored:

Native Disk Read: 364

Native Disk Write: 513

overall score: 9956

my Prime:

Native Disk Read: 415

Native Disk Write: 705

Overall Score: 15,866. lmfao. I crushed him :)

ill attach my CF bench scores. you can see all of my prime memory read/write speeds are better than Acer510 that you linked. plus that guy just saying no lags is not enough proof or details to back it up. his scores definitely doesn't reflect it.

I think the issue may lie in the I/O scheduler when running those benchmarks or during market downloads or big data transfers between internal and external memory. this is a tricky subject. because if his really does show no lag, its not supported by his memory scoring on cf bench. which might point to another software issue that's different in Acer than it is on prime. maybe more software optimization needed or better I/O scheduling. better I/O scheduling will reduce or eliminate the lag during certain processes. I know that some of the custom kernels ran in developement section have different I/O schedulers and memory optimization and they said they have no issues with lag during those processes. plus they score alot higher on disk read/write speeds. since they have all sorts of memory tweaks and mods. Once I do finally unlock, I may try to run Motley or shaky custom kernel on this stock rom to see how much better those Memory speeds are and how prime performs during. those processes known to cause lag. I know their kernels are load with all sorts of memory tweaks, ram optimization, and lots more things that will benefit prime performance overall. I've never seen anyone running one of those custom kernels complain about lag or slowdown. they all say prime runs almost night and day difference better. my prime runs good already stock so I can only imagine how much faster my device would be.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Thanks for the input. You're running stock rom still ya?
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
damn man, I wrote alot n it got erased somehow..lmao. I don't feel like writing it all over again.

check that post again though. I edited it and added more to it.

yes I'm still stock rom. haven't unlocked yet.

ezocerclock tip: you know how if you put prime in power savings mode, the screen quality on homescreen or whatever decreases? well with ezoverclock, you can manually set your balanced mode to 1Ghz. with it set like that, now you can run your prime at battery sipping 1Ghz speed without losing screen quality. the lowering of screen quality/contrast ratio is activated by enabling powersavings mode. its not directly set off by the speed. its set off by physically enabling power savings mode. You should be amazed to see prime still performs great set to 1Ghz speed. everything still fluid and everything. you already seen people post They played dark meadows in power savings mode and it played great. One thing though, think it doesn't apply when you playing games though. the games override THST and spike up the speeds when needed. that's what i remwber hearing. best way to confirm is to set prime to 1Ghz. then open CPU spy and reset the timer. now go play some graphic intense game for a while. then go back into CPU spy and see if the prime or device actually spiked up higher than what the speed you set it at. if it does, then THST means the games St least partially overrides your power settings and adds more power when needed.

Im about to put my prime on 1ghz for a while and test performance. :)

update: I'm amazed at how well my prime runs at a measley 1Ghz. everything still fast n fluid. all my web pages still load up very fast. I do have adaway. so I have all ads and flash ads blocked. this greatly improves browsing performance no matter what speeds you running at. I think I might leave it on 1Ghz for a couple/few days to see what kind of battery life I can pull out of this. the method I deceived is great because I have no decrease in display quality while running at this speed. try it. you might be amazed how well prime still performs in real world usage. forget the benchmarks.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Thanks for reminding us to play around with the performance settings.

I never touched mine. I am still running stock, no rooting yet and I'm in balanced mode.

I never tried to increase the performance yet to see if that helps some of this lagging I'm getting.

Also getting a delay in my wallpaper in water settings, tilting the tablet itself there is a delay with the animation on the screen?

It was lagging bad while loading a web page. At first I thought it was my wifi, and but then I realized my pc was getting the same page very fast almost instantly.

Question, it seems when undocked from the keyboard, and the is no easy way to switch virtual keyboards like there is on my phone.

On my phone, and I only have to hold in the input area and then I'm asked if I want to switch keyboards. If I don't say yes, I'm presented with my choice of keyboards that I have set as active.

Is there something similar on this TF300T with ICS?

Thanks

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] Harmani:
@rob: I don't have a tf300 yet, but is there not a keyboard icon appearing in the notification bar while a text input field is selected? This is the new way to switch keyboards in ICS afaik.
[Transformer TF300T General] BoomerM3:
Has anyone gotten 'ES File Explorer' to work? I spent 2 hours trying suggestion from their forum and finally gave up.

Is there any other way to access files (wirelessly) from a Transformer to a Windows PC?
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
i use whats wrong with it
[Transformer TF300T General] BoomerM3:
When I try to connect with my desktop PC, I get either "can't find server" or "login failure". I tried the server name by IP address and by name.

I have followed most of the advice on the ES forum...
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
Mine works but it's finicky.

I am rooted.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
It seems it could be the stock OS, since the hardware is similar to the A510 and everything including web pages is instant on the A510 (assuming the wifi connection is not bad).

In regards to web pages, is it just the stock browser? Not seen folks mention lag like the Prime had early on.
[Transformer TF300T General] mark.m.moran:
Is it hard to set it up to connect to your PC? I assume over WiFi? Have never been able to work out exactly how to do it......

Cheers,

M
[Transformer TF300T General] wideopn11:
Airdroid.

Last night I used airdroid to connect my gnexus to my pc, used splashtop from my tf300 to access my pc, exported apps to my dropbox from my gnexus and installed from dropbox to my tf300, all from my couch. I love it.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
I just transferred 1.42Gb from my pc to the pad in about 13 mins using swiftp, is that good?
[Transformer TF300T General] jdebay:
Yes, it works fine for me.
[Transformer TF300T General] rickpref:
I use WebSharing....works great, never had a problem with it.
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
I use wifi file explorer on phone and transformer 300 no issues.
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
You should be entering the ip numerical address, not the name.

And depending on if you are on XP or Windows 7, you might have to check off Anonymous.

And lastly some user login names that have a space such as 'Robert L', has trouble.

You shouldn't need to enter a Domain Name if you are setup as a Workstation.

And you can use the scan feature.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
UMMMM

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...urce-code-for-the-transformer-pad-300-tf300t/

Whats this mean for us?
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
I keep forgetting to ask this question.

Is there a way to use the keyboard dock not attached or locked in.

Is it possible to connect the keyboard dock with a cable?

I know one would ask why. But I am getting a mount for the Tablet when in my bedroom and it won't be able to handle the keyboard in the mount (at least that's what I think, until I get it). So I'm thinking that of I could either use the power cable and connect it to the tablet and the usb enforcement to the user port on the keyboard dock. Or do they sell a cable that had that special connector on both ends?

Thanks

Rob

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
I'm using Dolphin.

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Oh my god. I think this means we can downgrade to .17 and root with sparkyroot. :D
[Transformer TF300T General] TXKSSnapper:
I think if we download this and extract the blob file we can use the downgrade method for the prime and regular transformer... hopefully.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
I think I'm in love with ASUS, just a couple weeks after release we got all these goodies XD
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
yep! so who gonna be the first guinea pig to try this out and confirm it working for 300? :p
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Do we need ADB?
[Transformer TF300T General] TXKSSnapper:
If I wasn't at work I'd do it now. lol.

---------- Post added at 01:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:54 PM ----------

yes,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1622628

We should be using method two listed in that link. unless if I misread something.
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Ok I'm considering being the first guinea pig lol. Does the downgrade clear the data? If it does, It would take me an hour or so to backup everything :P

Anyways do I need any special drivers to set ADB for the TF300T?
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
if you've never installed drivers or android sdk on your computer, then you can used the Naked Driver setup in developement section. I'm actually not sure if 300 support was added to it but I think it would work. just make sure there are no traces of any previous android drivers or there will be conflicts n likely won't work.

or you can just go to Asus site or Google site and download the normal android drivers/ask. Naked driver has been known to work best though. make sure to read up thouroughly. because if you brick your 300, no guareentee the prime method of unbricking will work.

if you not too savvy with adb, Might be best to let more experienced one try it first. Rushing things like this usually always lead to problems. there should be no rush. you all have the files now. let the pros try it out then let them relay their findings and methods about doing it.

if you know what you doing, I say go for it. if not, I'd hate to see a new thread started by you talking about "I bricked my 300. HELP!!" lmfao
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
Lol, well I got android SDK installed and the drivers for NC. I guess I'll wait for other test subjects first :D

Edit:

Well didnt need to download any drivers, i ran "adb devices" and my TF is recognized by the SN

should i go for it? the temptation is killing me lol........
[Transformer TF300T General] :
Not anymore. . . they must have taken it down.