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[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
i would say hell nah..lol that would be a loss, at least in my opinion. they would at least have to refund me the difference in price also. plus i just stated my reasons in previous post why id still likely keep my prime.

as for your last part, i have recently brought back up questions to gary that falls kinda in the same category. trying to find out what they are going to do about people still experiencing wifi issues. and i asked if they were considering various options. some of which was related to what you said. so I'm waiting to hear back. From a business perspective though, you have to know this seems highly unlikely. plus they not just going to refund everyone and their moma their money back just because they request it. Asus doesn't have to, technically. but some sort of upgrade or even downgrade program would be cool and keep customer faith in them. so I've already asked about those options just recently and awaiting a response on. I'm already ahead of ya buddy ;)

id rather have the infinity pad though if they were to entertain the offer. the 300 option would only be if they also refunded the difference in price. Prime and dock is not cheap after taxes..lol so i would get a new tablet + money back in my pockets..now that sounds tempting.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
>for some reason Asus is one of the few manufacturers that doesn't work with us

I think your TF300 review has turned at least a few heads on this forum alone, so it would well behoove Asus to keep MTR supplied. There's an Asus Mkt rep loitering around here some place. Maybe you should drop him a PM and swap business cards.

>but no were near enough to sway me away from prime.

I could've told you that even before you watched it. :)

>id rather have the infinity pad though if they were to entertain the offer.

So are you going to bring it up to GK? (Edit: Oops, answered.)

>From a business perspective though, you have to know this seems highly unlikely.

It doesn't hurt to ask. It was unlikely that Asus offered the refund deal in the first place. It was unlikely that they actually admitted the wifi was weak (and got a lawsuit in the bargain.) So, why not ask, right?

>plus they not just going to refund everyone and their moma their money back just because they request it.

Yep, I knew that the refund thing was more of a "symbolic" gesture only, from the paltry positive feedback on this forum. Hence the trade-in proposal being a runner-up option.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
yeahh!

there ya go. Prime still has its die hard fans. ;) i feel the same way. if i never knew about prime or never owned it yet, I'd probably get 300 also for same reasons you stated. i bought prime as a Christmas gift to myself so i splurged a lil...lol A very exciting time for me since i came from owning an ipad for 2yrs. and i wanted the best and most powerful Android tablet. things have been great for me so far on the android tablet scene and with my prime.
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
I posted the published dimensions of the three devices in this post

Note the 300 does not have a flash so by using a case made for the prime the cut out for the camera will not match exactly (a bit longer) but the height should not be a problem since the bezel cases have a bit of give anyway.

I purchased two TF201 tuff-luv cases to use when I order the infinity later. I'm sure the 300 would also fit. All three have the same length and width dimensions. Although I would be careful with the blurex or similar poetic case because of holding clips.

Just order from amazon or any retailer you can easily return accessories. I order from and return without issue to amazon and newegg all the time.
[Transformer TF300T General] junrider:
So are you saying you would tell people looking for a tablet to buy the Pad 300 instead of the prime because it cheaper and everything works out of the box as it should?;)
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
I would. Infact my coworker wanted to buy a Prime and showed him the 300 which was earlier going for $380. I told him thats probably a better bet since it has plastic back and wont suffer the same drawback as the Prime. Lisas review just confirmed it for me.
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
actually i have just recently. I'm waiting to get email back from him. or at least to find out how they going to address the people still awaiting solutions to spotty wifi performance. i do try to find out stuff for the community that hasn't been addressed yet by asus really. Or major concerns people be having.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Thanks for this. Have you also brought up the I/O issue and browser freezing temporarily?
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
i would honestly point out the strengths and weaknesses of both devices. prime is still the superior/more powerful device. its higher spec and no way around that. More power, superior display, and better battery life. but it does have a weakness, which 300 seems to excel at so far, and that's a greater wifi range. Not all primes suffer from wifi issues alone. so i would tell it like it is without sugar coating anything.
[Transformer TF300T General] e.mote:
@safarigirl

The MTR review link is broken in your OP. FYI, if you want to embed a Youtube clip, you can use the Youtube button to insert, and paste in only the particular clip address, eg "xT2O-CD9Ga4".
[Transformer TF300T General] demandarin:
yep, those things also. although the main focus lately has been about the gaming issues lately and the issue with wifi performance that some still experience.

trade in or upgrade option

wifi direct

wifi performance

gaming issues

browser issues

i/o issues.

these are all things i brought up with him more recently. we know he was recently in CA with google and nvidia trying to address the gaming and browser issues. along with what ever else. so I'm hoping this update we will get any moment now fixes those things. along with whatever else they implemented in the update. ill likely bring up the i/o issue again as I'm seeing it as being more of a software issue since 300 also seems to have. he is a very busy man but usually gets back to me sooner than later.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Thank you Demandarin. Glad we have you on our team :)
[Transformer TF300T General] rlanza1054:
Lisa,

Thank you for another great review! You managed to do the review of the Asus TF300 extremely fast.

Here is a link for others to watch: http://youtu.be/xT2O-CD9Ga4?hd=1

Because of the review and seeing a minor sale at BJ's Club Warehouse, which I am a member of, I pulled the trigger and purchased the Asus TF300 with the keyboard doc, total $566.13, shipping was free, but there is the NYS tax, but that was the total.

I read that someone said there was a sale for the 16GB version with the dock for $448, if that is true, then I paid a $100 too much? But BJ's is a big outfit retailer, that I can trust and have no issues with returns.

BJ's makes it real easy to return items. I can even just go to the local warehouse club and just return it in person and not have to deal with shipping it back.

I pre-ordered a screen protector (in clear and matte finish) and a rubberized case/stand, from

http://www.handhelditems.com/search/?categories_id=9828&q=asus tf300&search_in_description=1&

shipping the items next month and it was all pretty cheap. Most screen protectors for tablets run about $24, I got a 3 pack for $12, the case was $19.

I ordered the micro-HDMI to female HDMI cable adapter from

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10419&cs_id=1041913&p_id=7603&seq=1&format=2

for $6.38 (that includes shipping)

Anyway, besides from thanking you for the terrific review, I do also have a question about printing from the Asus TF300, the Acer was supposed to have most drivers for printers already installed. It was one of their selling points most people haven't really noticed. So I was wondering about printing especially because the keyboard dock has the full sized usb port, which makes it easy to hookup a non-wireless printer. But would it be seen and even work?

And I noticed from the Youtube review that you will be doing another review, but this time comparing the two units we have been talking about here, the Asus TF300 and the AcerA510. I can't wait for that, maybe I should have waited?

Again thank you!

Rob
[Transformer TF300T General] safarigirl:
Of course I tried the youtube button first but it gave me errors. Maybe server was refreshing at the time, I'll try again now.

That's exactly what happened, it worked this time.
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
Here is the full list of gameloft games available for acer510. Now with that said,I tried a few that worked on my prime but give me error (this game not supported on your device) with acer510 I will put an x on the once that I tried but didn't work and dt for didn't try.

Brothers in arms 2 ( DT)

Dungeon hunter 3 (×)

Mc2 (dt)

Mc3 (×)

6 guns (×)

Ice age (dt)

NFL pro (dt)

Gameloft live (x)

Fantasy town (dt)

Tin tin (dt)

Oregon trails (dt)

Where's Waldo (dt)

Texas hold'em poker2 (dt)

Asphalt 5/6 (dt)

Gt racing (dt)

Platinum sudoku (dt)

Midnight bowling 2 (dt)

Assassin's creed (dt)

Shark dash (dt)

9mm (dt)

Order & chaos (dt)

Skee ball (dt)

Green farm (dt)

Diamond twister 2 (dt)

Nova 2 (x)

Uno (dt)

Backstab (dt)

Lets golf 3 (x)

Oregon trail: settler (dt)

Platinum solitaire 3 (dt)

Assassins creed : revelations (dt)

Gangster Rio : city of saints (dt)

Real soccer 12 (dt)

Driver San Francisco (dt)

As ya can see I didn't try alot cause after all the (your device not supported) I kinda got discourage to try the rest lol.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Wow they show up but they dont work most of them? thats a bummer. I atleast thought mc3 would work. But I hear ya....I prob wouldnt have tried all of them either. Thank you though I really appreciate it!
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
Yeah sucks bad, I was happy at first to see all those games but when I started trying my regular games and got not supported I was like WTF. Why bother even showing them just take them out like any other androind very sad very very sad indeed
[Transformer TF300T General] clouds5:
Hm i dont think so. The aluminum (despite the fact that it probably had an impact on Signals) is one of the reasons i bought the Prime. It just looks so premium and awesome. Also with summer coming around i wouldnt know what to do without IPS+ mode. I just love to sit in the garden with my Prime.

I have to add that my wifi is perfect and even GPS works quite alright on my Prime (for my needs), even gets some satellites indoor.

Really hope the next firmware will make games not crash again^^ Thats the one and only thing that is in the way of making it perfect for me.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
so w hen do we get our own forum? I think quite a few people are getting this now.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Seems that if the keyboard is not needed, the 510 might be the better choice:

Better battery life

Apparently similar quality display and performance

Gorilla glass

Better NTSF support

USB port without needing special adapter (should have been placed on the side, though).

Better speakers

A wild card is Acer support, but all things considered, they are keeping to their word and updating all current tablets with ICS, so not leaving people cold.

Added:

I am still not sure myself, but will try both out. The keyboard is still a factor for me to consider (sd slot, full usb).

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Gameloft and Tegra are for the most part, an unholy match. Added: You would think Gameloft would support a growing isntall base of Tegra chip devices (Tegra 2 still sucks), so wonder if Apple is giving them kickbacks for sucky support? ;)
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
My Acer arrives today. One note, it is unclear what kind of glass is on Acer. Sometimes tech support says Gorilla Glass. There is another report on amazon that Acer stated its soda lime glass. I asked Lisa at MTR and she has had a request into Acer about glass type and display type but hadn't heard back from Acer rep yet.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
The iPad "3" has ruined me in regards to how good a display should be, so as long as the display is an IPS and has good color depth, I am good. Based on MTR's perspective, it seems the 510 might actually be the better option, IF the keyboard is not a factor.

If the keyboard is a factor, it seems the 300 is a better option, since does not apparently have the issues the Prime has. All reviews point this out and the only lower reviews are from iPad "centric" sites. I would rather lose a couple hours of battery life and have a normal IPS panel, than deal with the wifi issues.

One point though is how well is the 300 panel protected if no Gorilla glass? Is it another type or "naked"?

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So this might be a point where the 300 and 510 are the same.
[Transformer TF300T General] gchild320:
+1 to this, sales should be through the roof at the price point.
[Transformer TF300T General] jericko:
Ditto, the wife and I are buying ours as soon as Best Buy gets them in.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
Unlike Acer which made almost zero effort to get review units out, Asus went ALL OUT getting units out and the reviews show it.

ACER, if you read these boards, your sales & marketing effort respectfully sucks. Asus is probably going to dominate due to a better launch effort and lower price point to boot.

I might choose the Acer, but I could be the distant minority.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
to be honest. acer had a $20 off deal aswell. it was selling for $430 @ amazon for about 2 days.
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
That's where I got mine sadly NYC taxes killed me $472 after with next day local shipping for $4. You can always buy it from newegg $450 no taxes free shipping
[Transformer TF300T General] BethyM:
I got in here. No tax, free prime shipping for a 70 savings over prime.

I like being in the minority, its why I don't have an iPad ;) I agree on their marketing/communication... the only reason there is a prime in my lap is because Acer removed the ship date from their site and said the launch was delayed... it wasn't and I could have had the Acer in hand same day I got the prime that went in stock. Couple that with the lack of info over the specs, even in response to reviewer inquiry, and I agree they did a poor job w marketing. I hope our BB stocks the 300 and 510 so people can see them. They've never had a display prime as best I can tell but if you want a thrive you're all set.
[Transformer TF300T General] nook-color:
Tom's Hardware has a review out today

Covers some topics I haven't seen in other Reviews
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
We've emailed Gary Key many times over the past year +. He doesn't answer our emails. We've met with Asus at every CES trade show too. Our various Transformer videos often show up under Asus' official videos on YouTube as the next suggested watch. So I think they know we exist. Oh well.

For those asking about Gameloft games on the Acer A510, it often takes Gameloft a few weeks to test the device and populate the list, and the A510 is just barely out. But last I looked, when I visit Gameloft using the A510, it shows a long list of games and ID's the tablet as the HTC Desire HD! Oops.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
i was looking at this case for the tf300t

http://www.amazon.com/transformer-P...96GO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1335362231&sr=8-4

it looks like the camera should be fine but I was wondering if the speakers on back of the tf300t is on the same side as the prime or on a different side. Anyone know? it appears the case has the speaker holes on the right side. don't know if that would work.
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
I have a Thrive, but the lag and awful video support has gotten old (Tegra 2 issue). I also have an iPad 3 64gb, but like having both platforms :)

Got a 510 coming from BB, so will test and compare the display with the 300. Sans the keyboard, it seems the 510 is the better option, IMO- assuming displays are fairly equal.

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This is not a surprise, based on their postion about Android. The lack of market support (sell in iTunes, but hardly any are in Play) means the old school windows CE method of installing games.

Seems Gameloft are in their own bubble that is facilitated by Apple and iTunes. JMO.
[Transformer TF300T General] zambonidriver:
Has anyone been able to Bluetooth tether internet to 300. I was able to Bluetooth tether to the prime using my galaxy Nexus with no problem. I checked out the 300 today at Best Buy and was not able to Bluetooth tether. Not sure why. It's connected but I never got Internet access.
[Transformer TF300T General] JustusIV:
QFT
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
acer a500 with Tegra 2 is well supported. I have an acer a100 and the build.prop is changed so market thinks I have an a500 and I can play almost all the gameloft games. Yet if I leave build.prop stock then I cant play most games which may home something to do with the lower res of the a100. But ya for sure Gameloft is so pro apple. I follow them on twitter and everything they post is mainly apple related wether its new games or new updates. They just favor them more but I really dont blame them since its easier for them to support 1platform technically. With the exception of the new ipad.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Well thats really a bummer on Asus part. Make me not want to support and buy their products.

In regards to Gameloft I think they dont have a510 in their system yet. If i go to wap version of gameloft I can change my device but when I select Acer i dont see the a510 on the list.
[Transformer TF300T General] unibeam:
I'm also leaning more toward the Acer a510. Longer battery life, good speakers, I like the interface better than Asus but I wish I could get the final word on the heat issues I've read in some Amazon reviews. Is it just a fluke though someone reported the same heat in two consecutive units, is it something to not worry about like the new Ipad or is there a legitimate quality control issue?

A problem with any ICS tablet that I also heard are some apps crashing/freezing the device. Hopefully this gets addressed soon.

I bought the Kindle Fire and was surprised how much I used a tablet and now want to step up. I'm just gun shy about purchasing too soon as Android goes through its growing pains(basically poor user experience with first Xoom, quality control issues on Asus, lack of dedicated tablet apps, etc.) I really want to like the Acer but don't want to be stuck with a lemon.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
I think by your 14th day return period you will know you have a bad unit. For the most part Ive read great reviews even on amazon. 2 issues I saw was digitizer and getting hot but not hot like apple. To be safe always buy through amazon or best buy since they have good return policy. Tab for tab its the better device IMO and doesnt suffer much of the lock up freezing and I/O issue like Asus 300 and prime and longer battery. But If you want pretty then go with Prime but know you will have slightly weaker wifi and no gps and for sure a bigger chance youll get lock up freezes. If you want Prime with working gps but cant afford it go with 300 but you might feel like its only 2nd class because on paper Prime is better.
[Transformer TF300T General] bakihanna:
I have no heat issues at all with my acer510 it gets warm but that's about it mostly when I charge it if that helps you any.
[Transformer TF300T General] z_zk_z:
External USB Adapter

Is the USB adapter for TF300 same as 101/201? are the ports same on all models?
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Yes and yes. If you watch MTR review Lisa points out the adapter which is the same adapter she pointed out on the Prime review. All asus 101, 201, 300 should be the same 40 pin connector. Atleast you should be able to use 101 chargers on 201 and 300.
[Transformer TF300T General] ukfan78:
I would love to see a comparison of the Acer A510 and the TF300T!

I just can't decide which one to buy. This will be my first tablet experience, and I want to make a good choice. I was originally going to get the Prime, but have decided that either of these 2 would be good enough for me. I am not really interested in the Asus dock since the 300 dock is overpriced for what you get. So when deciding between the 2 tablets, which is the better overall product? I am concerned about build, support (updates, etc), customer service, etc.
[Transformer TF300T General] jblah:
while the build can be argued..the support cannot. asus definitely has better support than acer. even the acer people would admit that. thats not to say that acer has 0 support (thats LG!!) but its not like asus.

my decision to get the tf300 was based on 2 factors 1) price..i got it for $380 and 2) support (asus > acer).

the reviews on the tf300 has been more positive than the acer. It seems that is mostly due to the quality control of acer. Some units are getting hotting, others are not responsive. However, if you do manage to get a good unit it seems to be a very good device with a bigger battery life and would be ideal without the dock. i got the dock aswell since i do sometimes work from home and this would help with the typing and coding when i remote into my work computer.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Maybe buy both and keep the one you like? But you may have to wait till they become available through other sites like bestbuy who will let you return without restocking fee. But as someone said Asus provides updates all the time but for the most parts their updates are to fix something. There is still the I/O issue on the 300 so hopefully that can get fixed. But as far as the acer a510 there doesnt seem to be much of an issue so even if theres no updates it probably wont matter. If you do end up getting a bad unit with either tablet it shouldnt be too hard to get a replacement from amazon or bestbuy.
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
We'll have a comparison video tomorrow morning of the A510 vs. TF300. Man, after filming the whole thing, it's not an easy choice!

Lisa from MTR
[Transformer TF300T General] jenocide:
Just got my TF300T today! It's a well built unit. I was a bit concerned about the plastic backing vs the aluminum, but it seems pretty sturdy. Theres a bit of lag, but I've read that Asus has released a software patch already.

Need to get some time on this bad boy tonight.

I'm not sure why I'm reading so many comparisons between the 300 and the Prime. Technically the 300 is meant to replace the TF100, hence the lower price. Spec-wise it's pretty much equivalent to the Prime minus the Super IPS screen and LED flash for the rear camera.

This unit is a bargain for $399!
[Transformer TF300T General] Cyclone999:
Yes. Working for me. I am able to use Bluetooth tethering from my 300 through my Samsung Galaxy S running AOKP ICS.
[Transformer TF300T General] ukfan78:
Great! I will wait until I see the comparison before I make my decision. I am leaning towards the TF300 right now.
[Transformer TF300T General] aznmode:
Just so you know she is pro Acer a510 lol. But I'm sure she will point out the goods and the bads in both.
[Transformer TF300T General] juanzr1:
Where can we buy the transformer pad 16gb ?
[Transformer TF300T General] pdagal:
As you'll see in our comparison tomorrow, I'm actually pro both. It's a really hard choice, but you won't go wrong either way.