yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] theherodrownd:
I live in Salem OR and my 4G symbol came on the other day. Its definitely not official launch market yet but my bars have been fluctuating from 2-4 bars sometimes the symbol goes away an comes back I'm sure in a few weeks it will be official and much more stable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] swimdude1120:
Same here. Its starting to creep through my town, very spotty. Though I keep watching it get better and better, so I know this year will be awesome when fully implemented across all of Long Island.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] darkhawkff:
I live in Lancaster Pennsylvania, and I just got a 4G signal yesterday as well. Not sure if they're testing or what, but I'm getting between -80 and -70 dBm signal, which is 3 or 4 (full) bars. I'm getting roughly 20 mbps down and 10 mbps up right now in my quick testing. All I can say, is I hope it doesn't go away.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] quantumalpha:
I'm in Lancaster too! Thanks for the heads up! I just switched on my 4G radio (was keeping it off to save battery), and i've got a signal of 85dBm (3-4 bars) inside my house. Speedtest shows 6down/5up

Running 4.0.4 with included radios.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ulatec:
I'm going to assume you are all using the CDMA version. Since nobody even mentions anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
Well that and we're talking about LTE too, also a hint at CDMA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cybie257:
Last week I was traveling from Portland to Lebanon. As soon as I got away from Wilsonville, no 4g, which was typical since 4g came to Portland.

I then planned to move to Lebanon (though not the case, going to Salem now...). I called Verizon to ask if they could 'hint' to me the possibility of 4g in Lebanon and he said they can't give out (or know, yeah right) that information. A week later, I now get 4g all the way from Portland to Lebanon, although Lebanon is really weak, but when i does connect to 4g, I speedtest at 4-8Mbps. :)

I didn't notice any breaks in the signal all the way down I-5, so seems his story was accurate in thinking the I-5 would likely see it soon in Oregon since it appeared they were working the main HWY from North Washington down. On my trip, I hit the speed test a few times noticing anywhere from 34Mbps down to 4Mbps on Average on I-5. In Tigard I was getting the Max LTE speed of 43Mbps consistently. Up speed in all those test and in Tigard ranged from 4-18Mbps. Nice!

Anyhow, so I bugged Verizon 1 week ago and now it's down to Lebanon (maybe further, haven't traveled beyond on I-5 yet), so you should "Thank Me" for bugging them to get it down this far!!!!

I'M JUST KIDDING guys. :) But, it's great to see Verizon making excellent progress. Also, what I was told was that all the major cities were now basically covered. The next phase is all the major HWY's, such as Interstates, etc. Looks factual to me based on what is happening. My Unlimited 4g hotspot just gained more value! WooHoo! :P

Happy 4g'ing. :)

-Cybie
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] supernova_00:
I've had 4G in my area and a few others cities around me that are miles apart since at least December and still no official launch announcement for these areas. Maybe they have just been grouped into Baltimore even though I'm about 30 miles from there?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zacisblack:
So I narrowed it down to being on the 3rd floor of the Business building at my school. When ever I'm in my CIS class I have 1 bar 4G but when I go to the bottom floor or outside even, I'm back to 3G. Kinda weird and I hope that's not how it is when they officially implement it in this area.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.

Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.

Mods on this

Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads

The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zkid2010:
Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree :confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AllGamer:
we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all

please keep all chatters in General

feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question

but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] degeneration:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 :-P sigh.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored

look at this gem which obviously belongs here

this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Beefvvl:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.

The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Beefvvl:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] degeneration:
Wait, what? How does that logic work?

It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?

Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] degeneration:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] dsp4774:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:

For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.

Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Teo032:
ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.

I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] enserio:
I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Teo032:
it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cashyftw:
Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
yes i can update it im also working with the mods here because no offence... This is prime reason why devs leave and moderators have to rule with an iron fist..

Just a note people with log cats u can pm me the link though the pm system here or You can use bug tracker on my sf page it will notify me with your issue :P
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] dsp4774:
Nah, not the end of the world. I just happened to be browsing through tonight and didn't realize that the drama was getting so out of hand here. I'll just keep an eye on sourceforge...maybe...I really just wanted to track progress more than go flash-crazy, lol.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
I hope nobody is faulting you because there was nothing you could do. The mods told people . Racing19 told people in his thread. I made this thread and nobody bothered to listen. They just went on rants on how our "job is to sit down and shut up"

I also made a logcat thread for people to learn and post logcats.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DesignGrits:
I think everyone now gets the full picture, can you re open that thread? Makes no sense why the Dev has to re make the thread.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
I think they are likely going to wait until xraver has an update to the rom instead of just giving everyone a ten minute time out and believing that will change anything.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
i can but atm im not going to..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Teo032:
lol they should have a new thing where you need at least 20 thanks to post.

But yeah, imo, just keep the thread closed, there isn't much you can do with the ROM how it is now. People are always gonna complain and whine about things not working. No **** people. lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DesignGrits:
Exactly...Kind of reunions everything for everyone else.

Maybe the MODs should make it required for Devs to create a 2nd thread for discussions only involving ROMs.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Most of the repeat offenders had more than 40 posts in XDA not on the thread (post count) and some had more than 1000. Everyone wants to blame noobs but it was mostly people who thought the rules are for noobs.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] minotauri:
thanks raver. my personal recommendation is to wait until you have a file ready to be downloaded and assessed before posting a topic discussion that it's coming -- this just feeds the hungry masses to post "i can't wait!" and "hurry up" and "when is it going to be ready to download" and all that non-sense that occurred earlier. 40+ pages of it too...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DesignGrits:
WHAT!!! Wow...I don't feel bad now, I have been trying to mellow out the last week.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
It's sad really. The fact we were able to have a thread closed is simply pathetic. We use a similar system where I work that is kind of like forums. There are categories, sections, departments, knowledge bases, etc. If I'm looking for an answer I am not going to post my question in a systems engineers walking ground (thread) just so all other employees can see how stupid one can be..... If my boss was to tell me not to chat in a development section then we wouldn't. So why aren't we listening here? Do we think this is just a website? a playground? A place to say what we want cause there are no punishments? Cause we cant get fired? If I want answers were I work I have to either search our knowledge base or ask another employee. You don't spam the people creating everything. They are workingggggg. Sorry I'm ranting but we are all out of a job at the moment and its because no one wanted to read and listen. Just after the thread MOD cleaned it up someone posted "lol" I'm not naming names cause he / she knows who they are. It just goes to show there is no respect for the ones doing all the work. I know how it feels to be spammed with useless crap. I honestly think the DEV section should require special permissions and when they are ready for a release / update it can be uploaded in a newly created section called "Rom Downloads or Download Links" Then within this section we can download our Rom and discuss it without bugging the developers. Just a thought....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
its was 40 posts before i even had the download link up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Teo032:
I don't mean POST counts. I was referring to the THANKs Meter lol. I was just joking, but it does eliminate many of the n00b leechers who only bother asking questions.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DesignGrits:
Forget what I said, just got a infraction.....not even going to question it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] clemsonboyz:
Although I completely disagree with the useless, ignorant posts people put up........I expected it. If you didn't expect it, then you are clueless to this forum. These idiots are so hungry for a 1/2 baked rom, that it could have been predicted. It won't change, but I sure wish it would.

I don't post much....I rather have learned to read and have also learned my questions usually have been asked 97 times within a thread.

I just hope the devs don't get tired of it and run away. But could you blame them if they did?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PhilUSAF21:
Everyone should just wait and let the testers tell us the bugs etc. And then when rom is posted download for yourself and test it out. I hate that mods have to close threads and such

And I hope devs don't leave either u guys are awesome with the work u guys do! Im grateful for it wish i could donate some money though
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Your thread got hammered. 23 pages with max 10 pages being useful.

I dont get why people would do something a Mod told them not to do less than a minute after told not to do it.

The problem is people should use the thanks button and post logcats if they have a bug report.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Balamutnik:
I've been lurking around and trying to help as much as I can, people in general need to learn few things.

a. Nobody owes you anything period.

b. Use your brain, common sense, voodoo magic if you have to before posting something that been answered and/or is a known issues and Dev(s) are working on it.

c. Keep their post to a bare, but useful minimum E.G. This works, this doesn't and here is the logcat (Google how to use it.)

d. Experiment, if you are afraid to brick it, burn it then I think you should either learn how to or keep it unrooted, unmodified stock.

And finally if any of the individuals who read the above got butt heart, there is a perfect solution for ya.

Sell your phone and get a JeebusPhone, it's purty and sometimes dumb proof.

Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
I posted a logcat thread http://http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1568210 that I doubt people will use. I predicted those threads would get closed and it doesnt take a genius that people are just going to wait and the useless posts will return and still outnumber logcats. All you can do is try hence the logcat thread.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Balamutnik:
Sad, but true.

This reminds me of my old hackintosh days, 10,000 posts and only 100 or so useful, the rest is just whining and complaining...

Eh.... To bad there is no access level in the forum to allow only a few to test until live release.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] _ice_:
Wow. I never saw this kind of chaos in any other device forums. I guess people are too excited.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
Just had my first call with the ics rom and first thing my wife says is to take her off speaker when she wasn't. She sounded really loud and crackly also. Anyone running the tw ics rom having similar issues.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Do one of these

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1568210
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] 80centjack:
You make some good points. I followed the threads today trying to see what was going on, but they were just spammed with the same questions and comments, people sucking up to Devs, and people whining about the thread. I do think that accounts should be banned for asking things like "Is this ICS or GB?" on page 20 of a thread, but I also think the search function is pretty terrible on XDA.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
We still have ICS development just no threads for people to post useless posts. I am sure the devs will be able to post updates when they need to.

You wouldnt be offbase if it wasnt for the fact that those threads were growing at the pace of 15 pages per hour. Both of the devs posted that it was getting out of hand. The devs agree with the mods because they know what they could work on their builds.

There is also thread here to post a logcat. A logcat is way more useful than having someone repeat "data is not working" 100 times.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] unlvmike:
It's funny some of the people here blaming others were the same ones asking and filling the thread with stupid.

This phone seems to be owned by mostly teens who don't think before posting or search. If not teens, then they sure speak like one...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
So I just run ligcat while in a call and switch from speaker to headphone? Could it be the baseband? Wish someone at tmobile would leak somethink?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zander145:
I know its hard to use the search function while using the xda app. They should make it so we can press menu while in a thread and there be a search option to search said thread. My 2¢
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PhilUSAF21:
Im a 18 and I search around and read peoples posts and above all read the devs stuff.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
He posted 6 times to slow down on posting off topic post. Racing asked all of you to post only on topic stuff. xRaver asked all of you to stop posting off topic. It still kept growing at pages per hour.

The devs are still working on their builds. There is still a place to post logcats. What do you need the dev thread back for since a dev hasnt posted an update?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PhilUSAF21:
Yeah I agree if dev has an update or info they do whatever they need to do then mod locks it up for ppl to download rom or read etc.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cashyftw:
What do you expect lol? We've been waiting for this ever since it got announced for the nexus, If people weren't excited about it, something would be wrong. This should of been expected. Acting surprised or in shock that there's so many off topic comments mean you either owned a iPhone, or you had an android device that didn't matter. (not you, but in general) look at the hd2 the day android got ported it was wild over there. When the vibrant got gingerbread, it was wild. So what's the difference between those threads an ours?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] autom8r:
The solution is obvious: permissions. You won't get pure dev chat in these threads, not if they're public. It's a battle not worth fighting.

Create a developer group, add validated developers, let them loose in the development forums. Everyone else: read only.

Problems solved!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] XPerties:
Back on topic regarding that thread.....I read every post and page all day from my meetings in Oklahoma City and I can't tell you how confused I was. When I got back to the hotel I had to re-read every post to make heads or tales. Maybe a subscription to certain sections or create a new section and require subscription based payments. If you open a section/topic to the public you will get BS over and over. That is the forums games and any mod/admin has to expect it. If not they need a new free job title. Try to solve the problem because being apart of it only makes you as worst as them.

Did that rant confuse anyone? Sorry long day. In closing I can't even download the rom because holiday inn express aka fast high speed internet is like 56k modem dial up :mad:. Have to wait till I get back home in a day or so.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cashyftw:
Ohh you know what Raver, create a Facebook group! That'll be easy. Melvin did that, it worked out perfectly. You choose who to add/delete.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zkid2010:
TheRomMistress :D

I don't get it either bro - here's one of the last posts in the Malice thread: "F5.......F5........F5........F5........nothing "

I know right? Look, if every 'dev' thread that strayed off-topic from strictly dev related talk were closed, there would be no more 'dev' threads on XDA. This is something new for me at XDA - that is, having new dev efforts threads just closed outright because people are stoked and being silly. These types of releases bring EVERYONE out of the woodwork :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PikkonX:
Have to agree with cashy here. I can certainly understand the viewpoint of the mods, devs, and all those who didn't want to sift through the off topic posts in those threads. However, I can't say I agree 100% with closing them. You have a forum that's been down in the dumps for months over the perceived lack of development, hardware that was purchased for others and led to nothing, and T-Mobile never even mentioning ICS unless it involves HTC products. Then out of nowhere comes the leak and some great work by many talented devs here. The past two nights are the most jubilant this community has ever been and there was some great comraderie amongst the folks here and the Skyrocket forums. So what do you do to dampen the mood again? You lock the most important threads the forums have seen since root, CM7, and Juggernaut first arrived. Yes, rules were definitely broken, but I feel they should have been bent in this situation. Let people talk for a few days and get their excitement out, then close the thread and make a second one where the rules must be followed. As others have stated, you can go into dozens of development posts on various forums here and see anything but development talk going on. I'm sure many will disagree with this point of view, but I guess that's why I'm not a mod :cool:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Quoted so that everyone knows that closing the thread has nothing to do with impeding development unless useless post like "how can I install cwm" help xraver develop his ICS rom.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
so i dont have to reply to each pm i got indivually yes im still going to develop further when i have a new release then ill reopen the thread (devs can do that ;P) Untell that time. Ill leave it locked for now it saves me having to check it everytime my mail goes off lol :P im also in and out of the irc channel.