yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Releasing anything that has bootloaders without a warning is fundamentally irresponsible. ANY attempt to touch those partitions can lead to a hardbrick if failure occurs.

People should avoid flashing bootloaders unless they ABSOLUTELY have to. Touching those partitions is the ONLY way to hardbrick a device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] F1reEng1neRed:
ROFL. We love to complain.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] designgears:
nope, I have had this leak for only a few hours.

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Challenge MODE!

Create heimdall files before me!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TOA Duck:
i have a feeling the Q&A section is getting ready to be lit up like a Christmas tree with "Help....I think i bricked mah phone" threads. :D

There are way too many noobs in the forums right now. (no offense noobs)

Telling these guys it's ok to do this is just plain wrong
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] K Rich:
A DG/Entropy battle?! :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndAllThingsWillEnd:
Download finished... Does anyone know for sure?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sjwaste:
Cool, thanks for posting it. I'm going to wait until someone takes it apart, I don't want to risk a frivolous bootloader flash, nor do I want to lose root and CWM when a root-safe package will probably be available before midnight in these parts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] designgears:
no battle, out of all the times I have used odinoneclick I have never bricked... only out of my own stupidity of accidentally mixing and matching did I brick.

If you are confident in the power being supplied to your pc and the connection to your phone, it will be fine.

Fear mongering is stupid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Also, the thread title is wrong. This is not official ICS - this is a leak.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dmnall:
I believe you about having it only for a few hours and hell with a DS3 at work it is taking a 1/2 hour+ to download this huge ass file. So In a nutshell I would not even be able to create heimdall files before you DG, you will probably have them by the time I get this thing downloaded lol.

Cheers,

Charlie
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ryude:
+1

Captivate section had A LOT of bricked devices from flashing secondary bootloaders.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] designgears:
meh, typical xda, you can get the files on rootzwiki soon. im out, peace.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] devz3r0:
My fault - changed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sjwaste:
I'm not trying to stir anything here. I just want to add one thing. When the noobs show up here and screw up their phones, Entropy helps them out. He might yell at them a little bit, but he helps them out, and this board is better for it. Just going off of the sheer number of people that might show up here and decide to flash, someone is going to hose their phone - however small the probabilities, we find our way into the tails on XDA. And Entropy will help that person. His warning is completely appropriate because time he spends helping people un-bork their phones is time he isn't working on a kernel to make this leak an even better product.

That's all I have to say and I hope it's not taken as hostility. This is a good place with people that do a lot of cool ****, and I admittedly am not one of them, but I like it!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rbj13:
DesignGears

OMG DON'T FLASH THE LEAK YOU MIGHT BRICK(.0001% CHANCE), FEAR MONGER, FEAR MONGER FEAR MONGER, BLAH BLAH, **** YOU XDA

Is this really necessary?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] yahoowizard:
You guys...Now I'm just sitting here with a file that's going to complete in 10 minutes and a question mark on my face as to what to do
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rbj13:
I would wait personally. Give it some time and like Entropy said he'll get it right.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndAllThingsWillEnd:
Haha, that's exactly where I'm at right now...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
So, by your same logic, if someone hasn't gotten HIV by screwing a different person each day without a condom, then that activity is no longer fundamentally dangerous?

Touching the bootloader partition is fundamentally dangerous as it is the only way to hardbrick a device.

For those that want something to play with - Task650 is working on extracting the .tar files from the .exe and will be posting safe images within a day or two.

So you don't spend time here, and then release something which, when people flash it and something goes wrong, will cause them to come HERE because RW is utterly and completely useless for this device. (Seriously - lumping all GS2 variants into one forum?), and are angry when people here try to take preemptive measures from having to deal with ANOTHER noobflood?

It's the only way to hardbrick...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
Bring 'em on!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ChefAnt:
i don't think he will be getting it right....

"DesignGears ‏ @DesignGears Reply Retweet Favorite · Open

Last time I leak anything for the I777."
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
Hey dude, some of us don't have too much money to spend on replacing a device. The chance of bricking is a very important factor to us, if that upsets you, I apologize, but we have to protect the investment we made.

I truly do appreciate the work you've done for us, and I'm glad you made this available. It's just a risk, and no matter how small, that chance is always there. Don't take offense to this, please :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rbj13:
Sick 'em with your lightsaber.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Cheaptrix:
Thanks DG...you've come through for the community once again. It is much appreciated. I've never bricked with odin either so I will be a guinea pig for this one. If the power goes out and i do brick then i will just get a new phone. Simple as that. I know the risks.

Also, thanks to entropy too for all his hard work. He is the only reason I am still on the i777.

You're both right.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] axis01:
TONS of bricked devices in the Cappy section when swapping boot loaders. IMO, this thing is FULL of bloat and doesn't have CWM so unless you're skilled at this stuff, it's better to wait till the devs remove the bloat and add CWM. Not like there won't be a working version tomorrow.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
Duel wielding.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ryude:
I think DesignGears is taking our criticism the wrong way. WE ARE HIGHLY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS GIFT! But at the same time, why take an unnecessary risk when we can wait a few hours and extract the files to create a CWM installation zip?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] yahoowizard:
DesignGears ‏ @DesignGears Reply Retweet Favorite · Open

(not really, because there are some who actually appreciate it, its just most of the xda crowd, they can **** themselves)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ChefAnt:
then don't be a dumbass and mess with anything if you don't know what you are doing....when it comes down to it, if you brick your phone, you suck at life...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
you wait a day or two, you sig. shows you already cried once.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bartolo5:
Does anyone have any idea how far from the official release this leak maybe?

I am debating if I should install it but I'm more comfortable with released ROMS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tysj:
Well the thing is no one said **** about a thanks or appreciations, just went straight to "don't flash this" and "**** that".
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
DesignGears has always been a hardass. That's why people respect and/or fear him. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
I agree. This leak is HIGHLY useful to developers.

But that's it - a release like that is something that ONLY developers who know what they're doing should touch. But when RW irresponsibly flaunts the release in the way they have, it causes 58034258342 noobs to just immediately flash it without doing their research.

Last time you released a leak with bootloaders we had a pile of people who lost the ability to use the jig to reset their binary counter. We were fortunate in that it's possible to downgrade bootloaders on this device - but at that point, Samsung had released multiple devices (such as Infuse) where flashing a bootloader dumped from a device guaranteed a hardbrick.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] c0ldburn3r:
I'm with you on this, as much as I respect DG flashing bootloaders is like playing Russian roulette. I personally turned my device into a paper weight due to a bad sbl flash, abosuletly perfect conditions and it crapped on me.

I thank him for the leak but some leg work needs to be done before someone starts flashing.

Red you might want to throw something out there that is adivising eager noobs to not flash this until it is safe, just trying to save us from the time old "HELP MER PHONZ IZ BROKED!!"

Sorry felt like I needed to throw my two pennies out there. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
Was that truly necessary? Are you really going to be that ignorant idiot to cause a thread to close? The chance is ALWAYS there, regardless if you know what you're doing or not. Don't be an asshole because you see things differently than others, belligerent fool.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ryude:
I think it's very important to get that message out before beginners flash it all willy nilly and create threads about why is the phone not powering on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] qwertyaas:
You're aware if for some reason your phone just happens to power off or anything during flashing a bootloader, you're phone is as good as a brick. Not sure how that constitutes sucking at life but great post... :rolleyes:

I'm sure most of you remember leaks or roms with Bootloaders over with the Captivate and what that did to countless phones. Even official updates bricked phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
And you're talking about what, now?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
What irks me is some of the devs harp day and night about read, read, read, and know EXACTLY what you're doing before you do it. And then someone like DG comes and releases this and doesn't proceed to label it with a warning first and gets blasted for it. WTF

If people are not entirely aware of the potential risks of flashing software onto their device, I'd say the blame should lie with them right? Can they really think to blame someone like DG by saying, 'Well he didn't say anything could happen', etc.? Come on. He supplies the tools, we take it upon ourselves to do with it what we will.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Snow02:
So no takers yet? Just waiting on my internal sd backup to finish...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ryude:
It's happened to me, luckily AT&T replaced it without even asking a question. That was 2 years ago though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
Exactly how I hard bricked this Captivate...

Also, the build.prop says "Release-Keys". Doesn't that mean official? I though if it wasn't official it would say "test-keys"?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MysticKing32:
I seriously can't believe you guys. Not one person told him thank you.

But you bash him for releasing a rom we won't have for at least the end of April.

Yes i understand there was a risk of hard brick but seriously be appreciative. Don't say were not flashing your crap because it'll brick our phones. All he wanted was a thank you. And i doubt anyone would actually brick their phone. Seriously.

Now he is not going to release any more leaks for the I777. Just because some (not all) were to proud to say thank you and the first thing that came out of your mouths was don't flash this.

At least tell him nicely we'd rather wait

Use my signature for my rom. (thanks williampp)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
If I buy a power tool, use it before knowing how to opperate it and cut my leg off, I'm suing the company cause its their fault. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ChefAnt:
I think it was necessary. I'm not being ignorant, complaining about bricking your phone is only due to not knowing what you are doing. It's like going to work and not being able to do your job, if you don't know your job, you shouldn't have that job. So if you don't know what you are doing, you shouldn't flash via odin...agree to disagree I suppose
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ryude:
While I agree, the sole responsibility is on the person who performs the flashing. At the same time, I feel like everyone can get excited or distracted sometimes. You need a warning, even when you know the risks and the procedures you can still make mistakes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
LG Arena (Bricked)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bowsa2511:
Lol and I just flashed cyanogen mod
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] qwertyaas:
Happened to me with official JH7. While downloading, I paused the download. When I next resumed, the phone thought it finished the download, rebooted and flashed a corrupt(?) FW. Phone was an absolute brick. Brought it right back to AT&T and swapped for a new one. It happened to many people.

Last time I put an official FW on my phone.

Noone is blasting DG for what he does. I actually appreciated his work straight back to Cognition on the Captivate - it was my first ROM. But regardless if 'we' all know the dangers of bootloaders. Some actually don't. Especially since they aren't around as much on the i777 like it was on the Captivate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
LOL. Exactly. Let's blame everyone except the end-user. Then again we live in a world now where noone takes responsibility for their own actions so whatev. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MysticKing32:
Yes it should have. I agree. But we could have said thank you. We respect your work but will wait a while. Thats all. (Ps i posted some more battery results in the thread. Curious to see your ics battery life)

Use my signature for my rom. (thanks williampp)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
You realize that was years ago, as well as the fact it was a Java based phone. Would you like to know how it was bricked? It was erroneously thrown into the washer by an ex of mine. How did I cry already, now?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] driguez:
Man, I appreciate what he's doing with the leak, but what's up with the bloody mangina bc a respected I777 dev gave his opinion, and rightfully so?

DG thanks for the leak, but no need to take it so personal. Whether is XDA, Rootz or whatever forum, people will have an opinion, most of the time will be a dumb one but it wasn't the case here, plus, it's the Internet dude.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
How is choosing not to flash this leak not taking responsibility for their actions? Lol. Not being condescending, just curious of the analogy. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MysticKing32:
Yeah. I understand your caution. First should have been thanks. And then a warning.

Use my signature for my rom. (thanks williampp)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jthatch12:
erhhmmm, someone out there is going to flash it and find it has the lottery results for tomorrow on it! then they're going to be rich. :). hey, you never know lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] navenedrob:
Basically this is a developers forum, that is why it says "developers" in that logo in the very top left of your screen. If you aren't one, then there is a potential you will probably screw yourself.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
please mind your language though you are excited or distressed :eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ChefAnt:
That would be my fault. Sorry!:eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
You people disappoint me... :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
Hey, disrespect is given to those who disrespect others. That's how life works.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] yahoowizard:
I don't think anyone was ever being a complete asshole to him. No one really threw themselves onto his legs and kissed his feet or anything for the most part, but at the same time, they didn't trust him much. It's not that they didn't thank him, it's just that he came in saying it would be flawless to just flash it, yet everyone discredited him, which is a no-no with some people. I'm personally sitting here, downloaded completed, I've had DG's Cognition mostly through my Captivate and my S2 while he was making it, as opposed to Entropy, who I have not received benefits from personally but I understand he's done a lot for people/ worked his ass off. So yeah, question mark, question mark, question mark.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kamots:
And + a few more :D

http://i.imgur.com/wiqTW.gif
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trill12:
Hey...shut up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
I was referring to the premise of people who would flash, brick and then choose to complain and blame DG because he didn't properly 'warn' them first...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
I'm still downloading. From there I'll extract the .tar for the system image. Main thing I'm looking for is NFC libs - that's the only thing this leak brings to the table.

Samsung's stock kernels are broken as hell - so with the exception of NFC, this leak brings you nothing we don't already have.

The people here have been working on carefully polishing things so that when it is released it is SAFE and ready.

At RootzWiki, the attitude is, "omg quick, release NOW so we can claim to be the first and get donations! Forget if it's totally untested, FRONT PAGE IMMEDIATELY!"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] msaraiva:
Then, if you don't wanna risk, don't flash leaked firmwares and update only via official means. Geez, kids these days...i kinda agree with DG on this one. A simple warning should suffice. There's no need to spread fear. After all, the software came from the device maker. This is supposed to be a place for developers and tinkers...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TOA Duck:
well this thread is going to hell in a handbasket.

Heres this is anyone else needs one
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
Oh okay, I wasn't thinking properly. People causing irritation to those who're trying to maintain a polite manner doesn't bode well on one's mind, haha. Again, I wasn't trying to sound rude in my reply to you. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jthatch12:
I have many leatherbound books......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
I know that fact, in no way am I saying I don't. I know what I'm doing, I'm just trying to provide an explanation as to why some of us are cautious about flashing it. No need to call me a kid, that's just impolite. :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] K Rich:
so much win in this thread :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] c0ldburn3r:
Shut this down, the damage was done and it can't be undone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
SHUT THE HELL UP, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT BASHING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON.

:D:D:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jthatch12:
And my apartment smells of rich mahogany.

(comic relief for all the distress:D)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
Hate to say it but I concur. The thread served its purpose and the fun (if that's what you wanna call it) has been created and taken in. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
No you are NOT :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
Damn you and your swift post before I can lock the thread on mobile...

Seriously though, this thread got out of control and way too many emotions are involved... some which are warranted, but its best to take a step back and take a few breaths.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
Humm what is it with white plastic items. I remember having this problem with the original white HTC Touch.

Just now I noticed my Note has a hair line opening/crack almost dead center on the right side, about 1" from the power button. On the plastic edge between the screen edge and the chrome accent.

Anyone else experiencing this?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] i_max2k2:
Could you post a picture?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kevinjgray88:
Yes I have same thing but on left side in line with the bottom of the volume rocker

Sent from the only smartphone designed by Chuck Norris
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
Samsung online support chat.

I spoke with online support via chat, this being the recommended action, after leaving a support ticket on Samsung Support's facebook page.

I guess that's the next step. Really sending this back to Samsung and being without a phone while they do their thing, for such a minor cosmetic issue, I wouldn't bother.

Reason I am doing this is to make AT&T and Samsung "aware", so they don't deny the next customer that makes a claim on the same issue an exchange at the store. Without having to jump all these hoops.

EDIT: Spoke with Samsung # on the box, returned their call. It was recommended I put the phone in a case to prevent moisture, air and debris from entering the opening and damaging the screen. If that were to happen, I would be charged for the repair, as it would be considered physical damage.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 00mred00:
Did you buy from att? This is covered by att if you bought it from them. You have to contact warranty support though. i posted the number in your other thread. Going to inspect my white note later tonight

Shame in samsung for telling you that. Subsequent damage caused by warranty defect would be covered.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
A Google search of the number you posted in the other thread turns out to be some sort of "party chat line".

I think the correct number is 1-800-222-3111 - I am going to try my luck at another local corporate store near work, if that doesn't fly, then I will try the local DSC. Lastly I will send it in to Samsung. That comment she made about subsequent damages being considered physical damage worries me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 00mred00:
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=56078&cv=820
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] GRishi:
Just checked and I have the same hairline crack in the same exact location as the OP.

UGH
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
Please report it to Samsung and AT&T, so they know about the issue, so they can stop claiming it's not a known issue and dismiss customers with that lame excuse.

You can open a ticket on Samsung Support and post on Samsung Mobile USA and AT&T, all on facebook.

You guys able to get pictures and share them? I would love to have more evidence.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
Pocket?

This question as to the culprit dawned on me..

Do you guys that have found this or similar issue happen to carry your phones in your pocket?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kevinjgray88:
No I don't carry in pocket and I have the Samsung flip case. Will post pics soon

Sent from the only smartphone designed by Chuck Norris
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kevinjgray88:
No I don't carry in pocket. I also use the Samsung flip case.

Will post pics soon

Sent from the only smartphone designed by Chuck Norris
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
I was able to (almost) get a replacement at the AT&T store. Posted the solution/result in the main sub-forum.

So there is a remedy. YMMV

Hope it helps someone,

-CC
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gemini040686:
I do have a similiar problem like yours

i bought my Note on 3 Jan 2012, and used about 1 month and this minor crack suddenly appear but I didn't drop it neither hit it with anything.

i try to claim for warranty and the management refuse to change the part for me and declare it as "crack not covered by warranty", but since this is not my fault, it was their defect, why can't I claim for warranty...

btw, I'm from Malaysia... anyone able to help me with that?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] LockO89:
N11 oneee