yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
i so hate defy.

quarx's latest ICS build for defy already has Hardware acceleration..why not for defy+ ? :( Please quarx..:mad::(
[Defy General] defeeczech:
Still missing plan from firs post :confused:
[Defy General] niksy+:
I know :-/

Does anybody about an image hosting site that allows direct image linking?

I'm on April 11th build by Epsylon and I have to say I'm really enjoying it. Probably the best build of CM9 I've used so far. No, there's no HWA, but it's really fast, nonetheless!

Krishna, you asked about why there's a HWA build for DEFY(Froyo) and not one for DEFY+(Gingerbread). Quarx mentioned one time that the difference between the two kernels is that big that enabling HWA on Gingerbread causes much more problems and bugs than it does on Gingerbread. The real problem actually being our locked bootloaders. If they weren't, we would already have custom kernels with support for full HWA, but it's not possible thanks to Motorola..!
[Defy General] kbrphani:
Info

Has any one tried the "CM9-NIGHTLY-20120413-Defy+.zip". New build. How it is working? Shall I please install it in my MB526??

Please advice
[Defy General] binhtop:
Hey niksy+, can u share me the batt fix you are using for your bro's defy+ ( with pikachu ). Can you charge to 100% with it ?
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Thanks for the guide buddy..

Good job indeed..
[Defy General] rahul32111:
Hey niksy+

i m waiting too for u r guide

try these image hosting sites

rapidimg@org

imagehoster@eu

imgair@net

urimage@net

lulzimg@com

i m new user and i m not allowed to post any outside links so replace @ with .
[Defy General] neo.ank:
@niksy+

Really thankful to you buddy.This is something that was missing.

Will be waiting for the updates to the guide.

I had a suggestion too.Alongwith the download links, add the links to original threads of the ROMs, where possible.. :)

PS: All the luck for your exams, If not done with already .. :)
[Defy General] rockyrobin:
Would it be possible to pop some info in the guide for BL7 users?

I have Epsylon's 130412 running and have done a nandroid restore of the 'Boot' from the Gingerbread install just after ICS flash before reboot. I did this as I thought perhaps the kernel in the ICS package could be BL6 and may not be compatible with my BL7 bootloader and would cause boot loops. Would be good to see some info on this for beginners.
[Defy General] neo.ank:
That would be a really good idea, since BL7 was unrootable until few days back, there isn't much info on it in the forums.

Adding it here will be really helpful..
[Defy General] rockyrobin:
Further to my previous post I upgraded to Epsylon's 170412 ICS but didn't bother with restoring 'Boot' from my stock nandroid. Booted fine and with no problems so far.
[Defy General] niksy+:
The default one and yes, it charges to 100%, every time! (Just select "DEFY+" at the beginning of the installation process.)

@everybody else I think I figured out the battery problems, expect something soon! And many things will follow.

About BL7... The things is... I don't have any experience with it. And I don't like writing guides of my own based on other people's posts :-/ Just the knowledge based on personal experience.

I don't know why Motorola switched the version from 6 further to 7, but I do think that the kernels are the same like the ones found in firmwares with bl6, so Gingerbread ROM's should work fine (rockyrobin pretty much proved that :) )
[Defy General] Maki-taro:
What rom or sbf did you use as base ?

Are you sure it charges to "REALLY" 100%? did you check the mV ? because i use a fix that charges well to 100% but is at 4200mV so it the 100% from the defy not the defy+(4400mV)
[Defy General] niksy+:
The bl6 Froyo ROM, the only possible choice :)

Everybody,

Froyo flashing guide has been added! Check the first post ;)
[Defy General] Maki-taro:
yeah i know but i flash the bl6 install pikachu, select defy+ and i get 100% battery but not with the defy+'s mV only charge to 4200mV(the defy battery max) and not to 4400mV (the defy+ battery max)
[Defy General] niksy+:
There are 3 more optional battery fixes available for DEFY+ in Pikachu :D

I'm still trying to figure out the battery issues, but I'm not sure that anyone can, really :-/ It's a MESS.
[Defy General] Maki-taro:
I use "Beyond compare" with those fixes, fix1 == fix2, and fix 3 not work

with the fix1/2 y get the false 100%,

The battery problem is a ****!
[Defy General] binhtop:
with pikachu and selected Defy+, my device only charged to 79%
[Defy General] rocjoh:
Hello, My Defy+ also has 2.3.4 ROM

So Froyo ROM for original defy (like official CM 7.1 stable ver)can be used without kernel update, but to use ROMs for defy+ (like CyanogenMod 7.2 by Epsylon), my phone needs the kernel update to GB kernel, correct?

-----------------------------------------

Edit: Krishna, Thank you very much for your reply!
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
Yes..if u want to use roms developed by epsylon,quarx for defy+ u should flash a 2.3.5 sbf ..

Or u can just flash the cm7.2 rc1 for the defy by official cm team. I'm using cm7.2rc1 for defy on my defy+ as I had 2.3.4 on my defy+ when I bought it.
[Defy General] v1n337:
I'm own a Defy+ with v2.3.6 build 4.5.1-134_DFP-231

How can I tell if i have either BL6 or BL7?

Also, i've tried both Super OneClick and DoomLord's script .. neither seems to work. Is there an alternative method of rooting my phone?
[Defy General] neo.ank:
DFP-231 , thats a BL7.. Those scripts won't work with BL7.

You want to root it, Go here.
[Defy General] v1n337:
Thanks . I'll give this a try
[Defy General] lukesan:
I actually wonder where this 4400mV comes from. Li-ion should only be alowed to be charged up to about 4200mV.

The fact that the battery has a bigger capacity doesn't mean that it will have a higher Voltage.

To be honest I actually don't understand the % readings of the Android phones. I wonder how they do it since the Li-ion discharge curve is almost always the same. So to me 4200mV or 4,2Volts should be 100% and like 3,6Volts about equal to 0% or empty.
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Even I was confused with that. Li-ion(or Li-Po) should have a max 4.2V/cell. 4320 mV would even damage the cells..
[Defy General] imam88:
Originally Posted by nogoodusername View Post

A How to on flashing ICS(Defy Plus Builds)

1:Head over to Stable Recovery from boot menu

2:Wipe Data (Nandroid Backup Before Doing this [optional])

3:Install Zip from SD

4:Select ur ICS(DefyPlus) zip

5:FLash

6:Flash CM9 Kernel [Note: Defy Plus users DO NOT FLASH KERNEL ZIP!]

7:Flash Gapps zip(On first page of ICS DeV thread)

8:Flash Battery Fix(Only for Red Lens) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29851821/ICS...tery Fix.zip

9:Clear Cache and Dalvik Cache

a bit of confusion.. it said "A How to on flashing ICS(Defy Plus Builds)" and "6:Flash CM9 Kernel [Note: Defy Plus users DO NOT FLASH KERNEL ZIP!]"

do i need to flash CM9 Kernel?

just install from the latest builds "CM9-NIGHTLY-120428-Defy+" ur u must install some previous builds then update it with the latest one?
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
If ur defy+ was on stock 2.3.4, you should flash that CM9 kernel..else if ur defy+ was on stock 2.3.5 or higher don't flash CM9 kernel..
[Defy General] Vicsa:
One vote for sticky thread

This is a great thread for defy+ owners. Why not make it as sticky one?
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
DEFY PLUS has a webcam in the front and 5MP camera at the back ? WTF ?

Motorola's site says that defy plus has a webcam in the front and a 5MP camera at the back ? i simply fail to discover this front webcam.:eek:.does it really have a webcam in the front ? check out the image or u can go to this link. http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/XW-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-DEFY-PLUS-XW-EN
[Defy General] neo.ank:
That's definitely a glitch.. The specs doesn't say anything like that.. Though kinda stupid for an International company...
[Defy General] oSandmaNo:
Well there is a chinese version of the defy+ with a front camera :D
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
What about our defy+ ?
[Defy General] imam88:
new edition this year release china only defy xt535

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_defy_xt535-4622.php
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
that's not defy+.
[Defy General] imam88:
yes its not..

the design is similar like defy mini and have front camera :D
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
But the link I posted says defy+ has a front cam.. Check out
[Defy General] imam88:
yes, i see it..

and i think that kadavil means by defy+ china front camera is defy xt535

because right now i'm studying in china, only defy mini and defy xt535 that have front camera
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
Oh ok.. Screw moto then.. :banghead:
[Defy General] jamesbondrdc:
hi... when we wipe the dalvik cache, what exactly is deleted??

does it delete the installed apps??

do i need to backup them before flashing??

---------- Post added at 11:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 PM ----------

hey .. does it work if we dont have any nandroid backup..

how to make a nandroid backup before rooting the phone by above suggested method???
[Defy General] neo.ank:
No..wiping it doesn't delete your apps.. if you wanna know what it is,Google it..

To make a nandroid backup, you need the custom recovery..

For custom recovery,you need to root..

You are flashing a rooted sbf to your phone in this method.

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] shahulvm:
Hi Niksy,

Can you please suggest the latest stable build of CM7.2 from Quarx?

Thanks much.
[Defy General] niksy+:
All of his builds have been stable for me :) So, the latest one should be your choice, then - http://quarx2k.ru/cm7-nightly-defy+/

Besides Quarx's builds, I have to say I really like EUROSKANK builds, too. They are made by FuZZ and are DEFY+ battery-friendly :D Find them here (they are for Gingerbread) - http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/gigglebread/index.php?id=jordan_plus

Very smooth and fast overall.

If you test them both, try and make a comparison for us ;)
[Defy General] shahulvm:
Surprisingly, am unable to find changelogs for both Quarx and Euroskank builds

So far the issues with Quarx build were :

1. Capacitive button lights were dim (adjusting it isnt of much use as they revert back)

2. After 2-3 days, 3G switches off but 2G remains connected. Reboot required.

Used build was : cm72-20120416-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip

Kernel : 2.6.32.9

---------- Post added at 07:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:40 PM ----------

I see two files there...

http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/gigglebread/index.php?id=jordan_plus

update-cm-7.2-20120507-Defy+-signed.05072012-2310

update-cm-7.2-20120507-Defy+-signed.05072012-0137

Which one are you using??
[Defy General] me4tux:
defy+ and superoneclick rooting

Updated:

I used Unlock Root and it worked!

-------------------------------------------------------

hi,

my apologies if this had been previously asked before.

i cannot seem to find any confirmation if a particular version/release of superoneclick that will successfully root a Defy+

My Defy+ has build: 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321

(telstra australia)

thanks for any help.
[Defy General] gentle_giant:
me4tux: I have the same Defy+ and can't get it rooted. Unlock Root didn't do it for me as well.

This is my device:

System version 45.0.2310.MB526.retail.en.DE

Model number:MB526

Android version: 2.3.6

Baseband version EPU93_U_00.60.03

kERNEL VERSION: 2.6.32.9-ge281b6ehudsoncm@il93lnxdroid80#1

Build number:4.5.1-134_DFP-231

Boot loader version: 09.10
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Hope you see the difference in the two builds..

This might help you.
[Defy General] jamesbondrdc:
If I flash the rooted sbf, what changes will it make in the original thing? I tried to figure it out in many threads but can't get anything....can anyone explain in simple language?
[Defy General] jamesbondrdc:
Ok...if I can't make a backup prior to rooting how to proceed with the above said method...does that mean I will be installing only some part of the ROM...not whole..so I won't be losing my configuration?
[Defy General] neo.ank:
You're rooting it by flashing a rooted SBF. It is a complete ROM. When you wipe /data before flashing the SBF, you delete all your apps.

To backup your data(apps) use 'mybackup' (from Play Store). It will backup your data and you can restore it after.

A nandroid backup is something different..

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] shahulvm:
Have tried both Euroskank and Quarx build.

Euroskank build has been more smooth and battery friendly.

So far the issues with Quarx build were :

1. Capacitive button lights were dim (adjusting it isnt of much use as they revert back)

2. After 2-3 days, 3G switches off but 2G remains connected. Reboot required.

Am sticking with euroskank build as of now.

Thanks Niksy
[Defy General] vic160890:
Euroskank

I'm sorry if I'm being a little out of order. I really read some posts and nothing has cleared the sky for me.

I have Defy + BL7 (2.3.6 DFP-231) rooted and installed CM9 latest quarx's edition.

I would like to try CM7.

Is there anything more than the following that I have to do ?

- Wipe cache partitions

- Wipe Dalvik cache

- Instal ROM

- Instal latest gapps (i have one from 29-april I used on CM9)

- Wipe battery stats
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
Everything is fine except the Gapps..i think gapps for cm9 wont work on cm7..better use the GApps for CM7 only.
[Defy General] vic160890:
Does it matter what version of gapps I flash ? could you point me to the latest version ? :D
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Its not about the latest version.Its the version compatible with Android version. For GB you'll need the one released on 28/08/2011. Search cyanogenmod wiki for it..

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] imam88:
anybody know how to flash froyo kernel in defy+??
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
Follow this to downgrade ur defy+ to froyo.

http://friendpaste.com/6K9FGOQgMJIm34sZA6qLBB
[Defy General] neo.ank:
What BL version are you on??

He wants the froyo kernel,

Not just a downgrade to froyo.

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] niksy+:
Hmm. You should wipe data, as you are flashing to a completely different system. Data wipe can be skipped only when you are updating to a newer build of the same ROM.

So, you should follow these steps - wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, install ROM, install gapps for Gingerbread (the one you mention are for ICS only) (gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip), restart!

Wiping cache and dalvik cache and battery stats are optional after the gapps flash :)
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
i believe flashing the froyo sbf is nothing but getting the froyo kernel..
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Only if the CG version of the SBF (froyo) is same or higher(not the case of Defy+) than the CG version of the Current SBF.
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
CG version ?
[Defy General] neo.ank:
There are CG files containing the version number of the Android you are flashing.

Each Android version has each own ID(what we call CG version), once you go up, you CAN NOT go back, and this version is in CG31 AND CG39 files inside the SBF.

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] jblyth:
Works beautifully - CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip

After having some nightmares with other ROMS over the last few days since I bought my Defy+, I found CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip works wonderfully well (see http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-defy+/). No battery problems, and the camera and video works perfectly too!

The only thing I found was SAMBA and Tethering didn't work, which seems to be the normal with ICS, but I got around that with the Apps Wifi File Transfer and Open Garden, so I am a very happy chappie! :D

Cheers

John in Sunny Carnarvon - Western Australia
[Defy General] vis_9:
Kernel choice

Hi! I have Defy+ running on 2.3.4

Kernel: 2.6.32.9-gbad50c3

Build:4.5.1-134_DFP-74

I'd like to flash a new ROM (CM7/9 by Quarx or Cherry Picks by FuZZ__), is the kernel ok or should I update it? Is there a good SBF base for these ROMS?

Thank you! :)
[Defy General] neo.ank:
You can flash any ROM for GB kernel without the need for any other SBF.. CM7/9 by Quarx are suitable..

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] vis_9:
Thank you! I had this doubt since I read of someone advising to flash specific SBF before using CM :rolleyes: Now I'm sure I can play with a new ROM :D
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
if you have 2.3.4 kernel, you cant use roms made for defy+ by quarx or epsylon, because 2.3.4 acts as a froyo kernel. i've experienced it.

---------- Post added 17th May 2012 at 12:01 AM ---------- Previous post was 16th May 2012 at 11:57 PM ----------

if you want to use roms for defy+ made by quarx or epsylon, then you should flash this 2.3.5 sbf (http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordanplus/DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-125_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USADEFYEMARAB1B8RTGB005.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTGB_P022_A022_M002_HWp3_WIG148094_Service1FF.sbf.gz

using RSDLITE...and root it..later you can use roms made by quarx or epsylon for defy+.
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Thats strange.. 2.6 are the GB kernels.. I had the same kernel for my friend's and GB ROMs work great for him.

You got bootloader errors with that kernel flashing GB Roms??

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] neo.ank:
As there's been strange behavior with your stock ROM, I'd suggest make a nandroid and try flashing CM ROM. If it works, great,else move to the next option..

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] IGK80:
hi

can i go back from CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip quarx

to

CM9-NIGHTLY-120417-Defy+.zip

and what is the best way?

thx

for Some reason CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip quarx is very slow and lagy on my defy+

and How this version?

CM9-NIGHTLY-120428-Defy+.experimental.zip

thx agin
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Just flash the nightly(build 120417) through your recovery, wipe cache and dalvik cache..

Wiping /data or factory reset isn't necessary..

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
No..i was getting stuck at the boot logo..

But at the same time, when i flashed the roms made for Defy..it worked smoothly..So 2.3.4 kernel acts like a froyo base.

if you want to use roms made for defy+...you should flash 2.3.5 sbf or higher..

---------- Post added at 08:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:28 AM ----------

CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip quarx is laggy on your phone ? come on..that's the best nightly till date..Did you have to flash the CM9 Kernel ? If yes..then that's the problem..flash the 2.3.5 sbf, root it and then flash CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip quarx...you will see how it works..
[Defy General] imam88:
from CM9-NIGHTLY-120428-Defy+.zip to CM9-NIGHTLY-120516-Defy+.zip

just flash it? do i need to flash gapps? what wipe that i must do?

*i'm noob here
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Wipe cache and dalvik cache..then flash the nightly..

If you don't wipe /data or factory reset(which is not necessary), there's no need for flashing gapps again..

Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above
[Defy General] rocjoh:
I also have the Defy+ with 2.3.4, and flashed official CM7.2RC1 (for original defy) without kernel update and it is working. (Krishna、thank you for your advice!)

But my battery status is not working correctly.

I can charge the battery to 100%, but the stat suddenly drops 10% or so like 60 to 50 and 30 to 20.

I saw some defy+(with 2.3.5 or later) users reporting that the battery cannot fully charged (stucks at 80% etc) with original defy roms, but it seems to be a different issue from mine...

Anyone else having similar issue?
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
that drop in the battery stat is because your defy+ battery is never charged completely..the only advantage with 2.3.4 kernel is that you can use the official CM roms for defy on ur defy+..but you need to compromise on ur battery !

its better to flash 2.3.5 sbf, root and use defy+ roms made by quarx or epsylon. No problems with the battery ! i'm currently running CM9 by quarx and i must say its awesome..try it..i recommend flashing 2.3.5 via RSDlite rather than staying on 2.3.4.
[Defy General] neo.ank:
What exactly do you mean when you say suddenly??

I mean how much time does it takes.How much time it stays on ,say 60%, before jumping to 50% ??
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
it was happenning just after i disconnect my charger in my case..but not 10%..just 1-5%
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Yeah.! That is normal. esp if the battery is 80%+ ..but a drop of 10% that too around 50-60..thts again strange..

PS: Whatever I know, this is one hell of a phone.. I met up with a fellow who has the GB 2.3.6 BL7 as the stock base and is running a froyo ROM ('Codename Android'), which is technically impossible.
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
:eek:2.3.6 n a froyo rom ? :confused: strange indeed.
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Yeah.. I thrice confirmed it..'cause. Though couldn't dare to try it for myself
[Defy General] rocjoh:
My defy+ battery stat drops instantly from 60 to 50, and 30 to 20. It is just like normal phone's stat changes 60 to 59 / 30 to 29.

Dropping down point is not always the same. Sometimes it drops from 64 to 54 etc, but its always about 10% drop and occurs twice around 60% and 30%.

I will try official CM7.2RC2 first (I know probablly it brings no effect on batt stat issue...), and then flash 2.3.5 sbf and Defy+ roms as recommended!
[Defy General] IGK80:
i had 2.3.6 GB and DFP231 befor rooting my phone

now im runing CM 9-20120428-NIGHTLY-JORDAN

and kernel version 2.6.32.9-ge281b6e

and it work fine except the video and the battry

i dont know y the CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip quarx was so laggy

thx
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
wierd..Quarx CM9 120511 is the best till date..thats what many say and even i feel so. Did you try reflashing ? and the default launcher sucks..try Apex launcher..
[Defy General] IGK80:
i didnt try to flash it again i will try it tomorrow

i just need to wipe cache partition

wipe dalvik cache

flash CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip quarx

and wipe again?

and what apex launcher give me and where im download it?

im relly a noob

thx for the quick answer
[Defy General] krishna.kowshik:
1.first wipe the data and cache

2. wipe dalvik cache

3.wipe battery stats.

4.flash the latest quarx nightly.http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-defy+/CM9-NIGHTLY-120511-Defy+.zip

5.Flash the Gapps for ICS.(Download here)http://quarx2k.ru/other/gapps-ics-20120304-signed.zip

6.Reboot.

Apex launcher is an app..you can download it from the play store..
[Defy General] dvdOpulento:
I've the same problems.. have you tried to flash the 2.3.5? Does it solve?
[Defy General] binhtop:
can anyone use the app : Kindle with Quarx2k's newest CM9 ?
[Defy General] imam88:
it is worthed to flash froyo kernel??

waiting update for gb cm9 take very long time
[Defy General] rocjoh:
I flashed the 2.3.5 and Quarx May 6th build.

It solved the battery drop issue....almost!

I mean, the batt stat does not usually shows such big drops after flashing 2.3.5, but small drop (less than 10%) still happens occationally (after rebooting etc), but is not that annoying now =)

In other thread, some ppl are reporting that drop happens even with stock roms, so maybe it is not a software issue...

And there were good side effect. With 2.3.4, I could charge the battery to 100%, but vattery voltage is only 4100mV or so. It is value for original defy battery and that means the battery was NOT actually fully charged.

Aftter flashing 2.3.5 and Quarx CM7.2, the battery is charged over 4300mV at 100% =D
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Somebody please explain me how a Li-Ion battery can be charged to 4.3V.
[Defy General] imam88:
i dont know, how to check it?

right now ini cm9 nightys defy+

before, when in stock rom, defy+ 2.3.6 build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321
[Defy General] neo.ank:
DFP-1321 that's BL6 ..
[Defy General] imam88:
CM9-NIGHTLY-120529-Defy+.zip is up
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Which build??
[Defy General] imam88:
epsy, and all work fine for me..