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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] circuit.007:
they are really advertising it has pentaband

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...nta-Band-3G-4G-for-all-Carriers-649-CanadaGSM

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special version apparently

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Also just a thought MAYBE the chip set does support AWS tmobile but what if the antennas are not being used for that frequency. Maybe it wont work then or you'd get very low signal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] swa2k4:
Someone with the time and skills needs to get one and dump the radio then we can flash on our phones as they are most likely identical hardware just software difference limitations!!! Great development!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
if someone wants to buy my rogers note for retail price I will take the plunge :)

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I wonder if samsung could confirm this somehow.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Yuhfhrh:
I'll buy it for a $200 bounty ^.^
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] montanan:
Galaxy Note Pentaband

Here are few more links, I am going have friend of mine go to their location tomorrow and physically check the phone if its AT&T or really some Special Edition. Samsung Electronics have no mention of Note with Pentaband.

sntradersonline dot com /SAMSUNG/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-i717-AWS-All-3G-bands

worldgsmphones dot com /SAMSUNG/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-i717-AWS-All-3G-bands

Read this post over at androidforums

androidforums dot com /samsung-galaxy-nexus/492391-anyone-purchased-canadagsm.html#post4052135

This site states Pentaband Note for India

knowledgebase-script dot com/demo/article-1079.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] obra:
FastDormancy

(I'm running ICS - things may be a little different on GB.)

[Insert usual caveats about following my instructions leading to the apocalypse or your SO dumping you]

I've had my i717 for most of a week now. The battery life I've been seeing has been _awful_. (Less than a day with moderate use.)

Tonight as I was poking around to see what might be the cause, I watched my logcat spewing:

D/FastDormancy( 555): [FD] ON default: false

D/FastDormancy( 555): getDormancyFlag() return mDormFlag = false

D/FastDormancy( 555): Before mDormFlag: false in getCapaDormancy()

D/FastDormancy( 555): After mDormFlag: false in getCapaDormancy()

D/FastDormancy( 555): run() curPollTime = 1334110895097

D/FastDormancy( 555): run() sent = 0, received = 0

D/FastDormancy( 555): inactivityPeriod = 10139, POLL_NETSTAT_MILLIS_DORMANCY=-1

over and over and over again.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/57084286-post2.html will tell you a little bit about FastDormancy

I pulled /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/nwk_info.db off my device.

sqlite3 nwk_info.db .dump

confirmed to me that the device only knew about ATT's networks.

I bumbled around for a bit before noticing that the device was looking for a nonexistent /system/etc/nwk_info.xml

I couldn't find a "proper" generic nwk_info.xml, but I found a questionable-but-working one from a l33t rom. and updated it to add a bit more current t-mobile info and to make its version match the apn configuration on the ICS leak.

That file is now up at http://fsck.com/~jesse/tmp/2012-04-10/eab8724a-d5e7-4e26-9bf7-822c35bd5ce1/nwk_info.xml

I remounted /system as rw and then dropped nwk_info.xml into /system/etc

Now we get to the sketchtastic part - I don't know the proper way to convince the device to regenerate the nwk_info.db - Blowing away /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony is entirely sufficient, though that WILL nuke your SMSes. Immediately after I deleted /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony, I rebooted my phone.

Now, my logs look like this:

D/FastDormancy( 557): run() curPollTime = 1334114391584

D/FastDormancy( 557): run() sent = 0, received = 0

D/FastDormancy( 557): inactivityPeriod = 15175, POLL_NETSTAT_MILLIS_DORMANCY=0

:)

The next step is to actually test it for a couple days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
sounds iffy

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus/492391-anyone-purchased-canadagsm.html#post4052135

if I was going to toronto anytime soon I would go check, any member with a sim requiring 1700band want to go try it out?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] circuit.007:
lol obra i have no idea what you just said.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] obra:
"I did some stuff. Now my note is using less battery"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
Lol, me too. I have no idea what obra was taking about also. I though he was talking about how to increase signal strength for tmobile users. Lol, but increase battery life is also good. Hope to get an update from you within the next couple of days.

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http://www.resellerratings.com/store/CanadaGSM

This person also had a bad experience with canadagsm. I don't think their claim of a special version Note is legit. I hope im wrong.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] swa2k4:
Anyone in Toronto want to go to their store to try to put a 1700 capable sim in? You know this is a temporary issue for T-Mobile us users as the next 6 months probably...they will start using 1900 band and be AWS free for life! and we can use regular radios but until then lets see what we can do...

I don't plan on getting any new phone until the NOTE2 which will probably be out by Christmas I guess since the first one came last Sept!

Pulling the radio from the canada gsm one would be ideal to see if its for real
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeweladdict:
The Telus one is only a quad bands phone. It does't not supports AWS 1700, which is needed for Tmobile. On the other hand, the Note from here http://www.canadagsm.ca/SAMSUNG/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-i717-AWS-All-3G-bands/ claims to be penta bands, which supports AWS 1700.[/QUOTE]

From the telus page:

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/QC/samsung_galaxy_note/index.shtml

Specifications

Network	HSPA 850/1900/2100 MHz, with Quad band EDGE support. LTE 700/1700 MHz

LTE 1700 is not the same as AWS 1700?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] leafian:
I might drop by there tomorrow.

Can anyone tell me what is the FCC id for ATT and where to find it on the Note?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] swa2k4:
Awesome! You can find the FCC id at phone scoop.com as far as on the phone I am not sure how but the best way to check would be put your sim in and see if you can get a good hspa+ experience like more than 1mbps upload speeds. Then we'd need to get a dump of that modem!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
10 characters
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerryasher:
Just curious, and learning, can you explain what the FCC id is, why you want AT&Ts (and not T-Mobiles), and what use is that for you in Canada?

/trying to learn

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] leafian:
I want to compare the FCC ID from ATT with the one advertised by canadagsm (sntraders) to make sure they are using different modems.

I have a feeling they are just selling regular I717 Notes flashed with a modified modem bin from XDA.

I hope to be proven wrong.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeweladdict:
make sure to check the baseband radio file in the settings
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
If you could do that for us I would appreciated. I really don't care about fast data. I just want something stable. Thanks again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
Guys. There is a guy, he brought his phone from canadagsm. He claimed the phone works with aws out of the box. Also the phone it rooted with cmw.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] leafian:
The fact that it came with CMW seems to indicate that it was flashed with a modified modem bin.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reebop2k:
Will this be considered a "bad thing" at this price? I was considering buying from them but with this new info, I'm not so sure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] leafian:
I'm not sure what they go for in the US but in Toronto on Kijiji, some people are selling it for as low as $550 CND
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] swa2k4:
wow what a buzzkill... well it looks like samsung would have said they released an official one that supported AWS. anyhow just need to tweak the software more and lets try to get it working ...any progress being worked on beyond the current ICS modems?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeweladdict:
which totally defeats the purpose. If it is Truly an i717 (ATT) with Tmobile radio, it's pretty much the same as what we've been doing in this thread. Data will be unreliable, battery and heat issues. I see no reason to buy the canadagsm phone since we have already proven that it does NOT work.

My main point originally is that the Telus GS2X works perfectly on Tzones. No radio,rom hack requied, no battery or heat issues. It is basically the T989, but with no IMEI that tmobile can track.

The Telus Note, I717D I believe is the ATT phone, but with software that will allow the Tzones bands to work by default with no hack. That is my theory, but we need proof.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerryasher:
I suspect you're right too. And thank you for the explanation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UnicornKaz:
I could be wrong but T-Mobile uses the same freq. bands as Winds up here in Canada ( went through all this with past devices ..etc )

if that is the case... this thread could be of extra help to T-Mobile users ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1547114

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gr4vity225:
Price difference.

To me the $585 +$30 shipping sounds like a deal compared to buying it locally in louisiana locked to att for $789. Then $30 to unlock it and time flashing...

Changed me from idle thoughts to seriously contemplating buying it.

CanadaGsm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] circuit.007:
Just a question how did you guys get t-zones? Im on the $30 100 voice and unlim text and data (up to 5gb). I would love to have t-zones and pay less
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
Tzone is a grandfather plan. T-Mobile doesn't offer than plan anymore.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] swa2k4:
Find a reputable seller on eBay I got mine used for 500 on there but if you need new go for it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tomin.fhl:
Agreed. Allgamer's thread has a couple posts confirming it's just the flashed Blaze modem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
Yea, that's me.it was rooted with he blaze 4g Rom. It had CWM already on it and Superuser and busybox. Yes it does work. Send me my money ;)

Hmmm can't post pics from mobile.

Fixt.

Paid $670 CAD ($650 USD) shipped overnight to my door. My Email shipping notice actually came after the delivery. They only take paypal and they have another website called Sntraders but the price is higher there for some reason.

I thought i should add at no time did i mention to them i needed Aws. Nor did i see any mention of a special model. I thought i was getting a non branded unlocked Note. Oh well. It works and it was cheap.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
Im lost, I though I had a problem, but my problems are all gone now, I use all bands instead of telling it to use HSPA (AWS 1700)

now my network type changes from UMTS:3 and HSPAP.

Either way I am getting perfect signal and 7mbps down and 3mbps up. I guesse videotron does not have the exact same issues as TMO ;o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerryasher:
Okay, so I'm confused.

Canadagsm sold you a used Note and called it new?

And this used Note works on T-Mobile's HSPA+ and reliably gets download speeds of ___ and upload speeds of ___?

And otherwise this seems to be the AT&T version of the Note, or it really is some special pentaband note?

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
It appears to be new. Accessories are untouched. The had to open to unlock and modify i guess. Many retailers do this.

No clue about T-Mobile as Im on Mobilicity.

As far as a special pentaband? Doubt it. All i717 can be modded to run AWS frequencies. The hardware is there, the software is not. At least not from the factory anyways.

When im not at home, my uploads are pretty bad lik most others here maxed at 32kbps up or so. Downloads range from 0.9-2.0Mbps
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
This is what i called fault advertisement. They flashed blade modem into ATT Note, and they claimed to have a special version Note supports pentaband. It is bunch of BS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] trucvu:
so then, do you have to still unlock the phone?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] circuit.007:
no he doesnt because hes using moblicity which is not atnt it has to be unlocked already. I doubt he had to do anything than insert the sim
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
I popped in the sim and ran. Everything was done before i got the phone.

It took a while before i got a signal tho, just like my T989.

Oddly when i tried my buddies Fido sim, it said no sim.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reebop2k:
I decided to forgo flashing one of my own and I ordered from CanadaGSM yesterday. My Note will arrive Tuesday. I'm a T-Mobile user that lives in the Dallas area and I can let you all know how it works when it comes in. I've gotten pretty good 3G on my Nokia N900 for 2+ years in my area.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jerryasher:
It it's true that Canadagsm opens the box and flashes a new rom, I would be very concerned that their act voids the warranty from Samsung as well as T-Mobile somehow turning this phone off.

But I am glad someone has taken the plunge, and I am very interested to learn what happens.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeweladdict:
Why didn't you get a stock telus one? that's the real question. if we can get a stock telus note with stock radio/rom etc working flawlessly on Tmobile, why bother with a flashed i717? The ATT flashed i717 is extremely flakey =/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tomin.fhl:
jewel I think the stock Telus Note will only get edge with a T-Mobile sim card. There is a dump of the Telus radio in the CWM modem thread and that radio only produces edge. Would be nice to be wrong about this though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reebop2k:
That's a fair question. I went with this one because of reading this thread and what I read to be fairly positive comments on it. I am concerned a little with battery life but as a N900 user, I'm used to having plenty of spare charged batteries around. Probably if I saw more posts of users directly saying to go with the Telus instead of the AT&T, I would have made a different decision. CanadaGSM made it easy for me to purchase over the web in Texas and I was willing to pay a premium to have it flashed and ready for me as my time is more valuable to me than the time to flash it myself.

If I am not happy with the phone though, it will go back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeweladdict:
has this actually been confirmed?

Telus t989D works perfectly with tmobile aws, was hoping the telus i717d would too. If telus and tmobile both use the 1700 band, don't know why it wouldn't work for both tmobile and telus.

I'm willing to try this out, but i just want to make sure no one else has yet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
Thought i should mention my phone is branded AT&T if anyone is wondering.

I also inquired about the warranty as they rooted the phone and flashed the radio. No reply yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UnicornKaz:
... :D

a lot of you need to change your carrier ... lol :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tomin.fhl:
Some food for thought here ...

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1450101

Also, if you type in the imei of an i717 (AT&T) in the Telus comability site it will identify your phone as compatible on the Telus network which, though not conclusive, suggests that the i717 and the i717d are essentially the same device.

You should go for it and try it anyway ... just keep your receipt.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Yuhfhrh:
One problem though, Telus does not use aws/1700.

The only reason their galaxy s2 does is because they used the same model as T-Mobile. So basically they just took off the T-Mobile branding and used the same phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tomin.fhl:
That's right. ... the T989 Hercules was like a super global phone that worked with AT&T and T-Mobile in the US.

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1300028
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jeweladdict:
that makes sense. Guess I'm stuck with the S2 :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bryancotton84:
anyone having issues with T-mo radios not sending picture messages via text?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
I'm gonna say its your APN settings that are not set right to receive MMS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bryancotton84:
any idea what they should be and how to change them?!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
Google is your friend :)

http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1979
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bryancotton84:
lol yea i did it shortly after i posted that...everything is the same on my note as my S2 and that link but i just get the constant "sending" sign for picture messages

EDIT: So I can receive MMS but still wont send...interesting
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Longevite:
take screen shot of the APN setting post in here. Also change the data to Edge it will help.

Most of the time if I can't send pic I change to E and it sent.

On the Note if you dont have the option to set to 2G speed, only way to do is dial *#2263# and set to GSM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bryancotton84:
My APN is the same as what T-Mobile says on their FAQ page, tried the switch to 2G and it still didnt work....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reebop2k:
I received my i717 from CanadaGSM late yesterday afternoon. I am seeing mostly 3 out of 5 bars with occasionally 4 on T-Mobile at my home in Dallas, TX. In the several tests I ran with Speedtest, I've see 1500 kps down / 90 up with 3 bars and 2500 kps down / 250 up with 4 bars. I have also seen as high as 5000 kps down /600 kps up, but that has been rare. I've had no dropped calls (one call today was about an hour) and I was able to get on with my phone right away. I've tweaked no settings at this time. I haven't checked battery life as of yet but I can say it is much better than my Nokia N900.

I did find that their GMail e-mail address has been entered everywhere to download BusyBox from the Market, so I've needed to change all of that. I wished they would have noted that in a short set of instructions included in the package. All the included accessories were included and the plastic protector packaging on the phone was all in place.

So far, I'm quite happy with the phone. Paying a premium for a phone with the modem flashing already done was a huge time saver for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
For me the phone was cheaper than any local dealer and saved me the effort to root and flash.

Rogers would have been $700 + taxes, 1 month service and a $35 activation fee + however much $ to unlock.

Im a happy camper.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
I bought my rogers from bestbuy @ 649 with month to month contract, called in the next day, canceled the contract, paid my month, and voila. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
my local store wouldnt even sell me one outright.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] leafian:
Its advertised on Toronto Kijiji for $585.

The number in the ad is from SNTRADERS

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...WS-Works-with-All-Carriers-W0QQAdIdZ371291346
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] matt3allen:
best t-mobile tmo tmobile 3g 4g data

Ive tried all the ICS roms (except the new Alpha III) using each modem(blaze,kid,telus(telus usually best) and none of them are good enough to be a daily driver cuz data is so inconsitent nothing loads properly for longer that 3 minutes and if your moving like on a train forget about it. (Im only commenting on tmobile data ability, not the ROMs)

Hands down the best and most useable setup for T-mobile users:

ROM : SAUROM_XLA2_RC4A

kernel : holoNoteKernel-0.1-2-k (DON'T flash the kernel fix it will fawk your sheet up cuz its for RC5 and up)

modem : Blaze_4G_LB7_radio_ATTNOTE

extra---

TWlauncher default launcher

setcpu: 192min 1836max lagfree

V6 supercharged. megaram1 768+ HP

KAK kickasskernel (k)

not turbocharged (not scared to use now that i have 4g useable)

rom toolbox: SD boost 2048kb

used part of build.prop tweaks from the (Tweaks) build.prop Post in Dev section. only the ones for sleep, and screen touch improve, jpg and no boot animation. nothing that effected oom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
Im seeing $599?

on Canadagsm.ca (same company) its $585 +tax+shipping
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
Like i've mentioned before, this phone is awesome. All we need is more stable 4G data for ICS for us T-mobile, Mobilicity, and Wind etc...users. I think we should set up a bounty. What do you guys think? Does anyone know any good modem devs? Perhaps we could ask them for help.

@OP can we start the bounty in this thread or should we create a new thread?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] chard87000:
ill donate..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mythus:
I've been trying to setup a donation thread in development. im in 20$ lets just get this done and give someone in$piration to take the task.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
Mythus, why don't you create a bounty thread in General forum, i don't think it belongs in development forum.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Adapt0r:
Results of ppl experimentation led me to assume that it might be hardware, in particular, antenna filters or something else that is frequency dependent preventing getting strong signal.

It seems to be proven that signal level on the Note is always lower than on SGS2, for example. This automatically results in lower data rates.

Phones carry the same baseband processing chips but Note might be missing something in the RF hardware making desired performance out of reach.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] leafian:
It was $585 when I posted it this morning. LOL

They must have raised it to distinguish themselves from canadagsm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mythus:
As you requested, Sir.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1608873
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
Hmm.. when you take the back off the Note, you can see 2 gold plugs like for external GPS unit connections, could one possibly have been for the AWS antenna?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhoang:
Can you take a picture of what you're taking about? Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Adapt0r:
Small cell phone antennas are usually fabricated to work efficiently only in a narrow frequency band (3-5% of the central frequency). Beyond this band received signal will be 10-20dB (10-100 times) lower and transmitter energy consumption will be higher because communication with the base station requires certain signal-to-noise ratio.

It would be interesting to get signal level readings from the Note using, for example, RF Signal Tracker app and compare with the similar readings obtained on AWS in the same point.

I bet the Note signal level readings will be way lower.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ChronoReverse:
I'm pretty sure you're thinking about the two connectors for the NFC antenna on the back cover.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
comon guys, take the battery cover off and look :)

I love my goddamn phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Lazy361:
i think itd be a good idea to put mythus' bounty thread on the OP please
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lazy2535:
I noticed these today and hooked up an external antenna to R1 which is for the radio. Now my internal antenna is disabled and I cannot get it back so be careful and if anyone knows a fix for this don't be shy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PoLaRBe4r:
well that blows ;o

call samsung?

flash a radio zip ?

since its not working anymore, have you tried plugging it in to R2 ? any thoughts on signal once your on the external antenna?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lazy2535:
Flashed every radio I could and Samsung was of no help.