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[HTC EVO 3D] WhiteRasta:
Failed to get root

ok so I had to file insurance claim on my original 3D and they sent me a new device that was on HBOOT 1.5 , I made it through the 1.5 to 1.4 downgrade with no problems , but for whatever reason I can not get the revolutionary to achieve S-off. Says Zerging root .... Failed to get root :( , I have run the 50 times in both linux and windows with same result ... any suggestions ? SO CLOSE!
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi Matt,

I'm assuming that both flashes succeeded? You had to unplug the USB cable, press enter, hold volume - again, and plug the phone back in. Did any errors return? When you put in the battery and press the power button, what happens. Please give me as much information as possible so that I can try to figure out exactly what happened. :)

Thanks,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi WhiteRasta, did you flash the 1.13 RUU before running Revolutionary? Zerging root was patched in later RUUs, so that's why you must run the version 1.13 RUU.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] WhiteRasta:
Thanks so much , figured it was something i missed , got me rolling again , big thanks , might get this flashed tonight afterall , WIll I need to update to latest firm/radio after i do the s-off and recovery? Thanks again
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
you don't have to, but must do.

just be sure to flash the firmware without hboot 1.50 included in it !
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
:) I would suggest running this firmware/radio update. That will put the latest firmware and radios on from the 2.17 RUU without running the full RUU.

~co~

Edit: lowetax, you beat me by a second. Read my reason for editing below. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] ldostang:
sorry for the noob question. Finally got it bricked!!!! but at step 27, do i let it run the update?
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
well, i am self-employed ! :)

i was looking for the link for him, but slow going for links when not at pc.
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
If you are at step 27, your bootloader should be downgraded and say hboot 1.40 and be in "fastboot usb" mode. If so, then yes run the 1.13 Ruu.exe to install a working hboot 1.40 compatible stock Rom ( so u can run revolutionary later).
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Don't be sorry! :) Don't let it run the 2.17 RUU.

Just run the 1.13 RUU as outlined in the next step. Delete that 2.17 RUU zip off your SD card so that it doesn't accidentally get flashed.

~co~

Edit: Both lowetax and Mpgrimm2 beat me to this one. ;) Check edit reason.
[HTC EVO 3D] ldostang:
It does say hboot 1.4 but it starting running the pg86img update. Its at the press vol up to update, etc.
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Yeah, and what he said.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Edit: Full message. If you're trying to update using the file you bricked (2.17) with, you'll have to start over. Just the 1.13 RUU.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] ldostang:
Thanks guys. running the ruu now. It only took me 3 tries to brick the phone today. I tried for 4 hours two days ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Very happy to! :)

You're running the 1.13 RUU? Just making sure.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] ldostang:
Yes I am.

Probably the trick was using a class 2 card.

Thanks again.

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SUCCESS!!!! hboot 1.4 s-off. Thanks again.
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
add another one to the happy camper count !
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Is it a bad thing that I've lost count? I am happy that I have made others happy (or at least made their experience more positive). I believe that this is what really counts. Trust me when I say that this is the humble, honest truth.

Thank you,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
ya got that right !
[HTC EVO 3D] insanecon:
Can you repost this?
[HTC EVO 3D] mmvic:
The third step was not successful, no errors just would not complete. It would return to the home screen. I think the problem might be that I was not on the latest 2.17 and I used that to brick....
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi Matt. You should actually still be able to run the unbrick again if the next part wasn't completed. The reason for it returning to the main menu is actually a mistake on my part where I didn't have it pause so that you could see that it had finished before moving back. I have incorporated that change into my code, so it should be fixed in the next build.

While it may seem obvious, make sure that the battery has a charge after running through the steps. There have been a few cases where the battery has run down completely, and when trying to power on the phone, nothing would happen. No battery should be in while downgrading, but one should be in afterwards. Hook up the phone to the wall and let it charge for an hour or two.

After that, unhook the charger from the device, wait about 7-8 seconds, and hit the power button. Look at the charge light, what does it do (you may have to turn off the lights in the room to check).

Second check would be simply plugging it into your computer running Windows. What happens when it's plugged in?

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theboz1419:
After some problems bricking I was able to accidently brick it, lol. If you can say that.

The phones timing was better then mine at bricking it, I used the no battery method and while I tried atleast 50 times to get the timing I could not.

For some reason my phone decided to shut-off at the correct time and it bricked. some reason the usb charger I had connected was not giving it enough power and it shut off after about 5 seconds, perfect for me, lol.

But, then I had some problems getting my phone to be recongnized in Linux or the Toolkit. after trying 2 computers and tinkering with it I was able to get to step 1

But my output was different then what is shown of

511+1 records in

511+1 records out

I had

511+0 records in

511+0 records out

And then step 2 it would go back to the main menu without saying anything.

I tried and tried to get it to work

I decided to try the battery and I saw it had a dim blinking light, which gave me hope that I it was not bricked:) I had another batter full charged and it started up and went to the boot screen and I saw Hboot1.4.

After that it was a peice of cake to install RUU 1.13 and revolutionary.

I have to say a big Thank you to all involved with Rooting the EVO and those who helped me in this thread.

Again Thanks :):):cool::):)
[HTC EVO 3D] bpollina:
I'm on my way!

After reading nearly every page at work today (3+ hours and almost 100 pages) I came home today to give it a try!

What a headache!

The 2.17 RUU had to be downloaded at least 3x. It kept not recognizing or saying newer. Finally it came up.

I followed the instructions on the youtube videeo and bricked it by the 2nd attempt! YEAH!

I'm on step 28 now! WEE!

The 1.13 RUU exe is taking forever!

Might anyone have a mirror ? even a temp one. PM me. I'm anxious to get this working fully!
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi bpollina. I have sent you a response to your PM. :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] mmvic:
Thanks so much for the help! When I plug it into windoWs it does not recognize it. The battery is fully charged, I will be receiving a new phone from sprint on Wednesday so I will give it another shot then.
[HTC EVO 3D] stephangardner:
Dallas, TX

anyone in the dallas area wanna make some cash downgrading my hboot
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi Stephan. I remember that you posted this before. Do you have a friend or colleague that might do it for you? The downgrade threads really aren't the best place to ask for someone from the your area to do it for you. I apologize. If I lived in your area, I'd rush over and do it for you in a heartbeat. I hope this doesn't come across as rude or negative.

I'm sorry,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] ssojyeti2:
This is really wierd. I thought I had it bricked, the light was dim and the phone wouldn't power on, but after the third step of your cd the red light suddenly came on and and my phone worked. Now to try again:mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I would make sure that the battery is charged, and that after trying the brick, just try powering the phone back on. Wait about 7-8 seconds after putting the battery back in before pressing the power button. Just keep trying. ;)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
yes, i would think asking users of evo 3d custom roms would help.

Viper, Myn, d3rp, etc. good people in each thread always willing to help.

never know who would be nearby.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1098

i offered phone support, and then proceeded to pass out ! :)

lot of driving and lack of sleep this weekend !
[HTC EVO 3D] forty9er:
i need some help been at this for hour phone bricked i run the downgrade everything works fine but after that i cant run the ruu says it failed error usb device not plugged in dont know what else to do if anybody can help thanks

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stuck at step 27 cant run the ruu cpu wont recognize phone cant unbrick anybody help plz thank you
[HTC EVO 3D] forty9er:
After i run the downgrade after step 3 it goes straight to the menu i put my batt back in hold the vol down and press power i get a stady red dim light for like 5 seconds and thats it the phone dont do anything i tried running the ruu but i keep getting error 170 usb error i tried reinstalling the htc drivers and nothing im dead in the water im stuck at step 27 any lil help thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm sorry forty9er. The phone isn't booting after running the downgrade? (Make sure the battery is charged up enough to boot it. Also, try running the downgrade again, it's always possible that something didn't happen. Sorry about the CD returning back to the main menu after the downgrade. That's an issue that I've got slated as a fix in the next version.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] forty9er:
well ive tried everything ran the downgrader like 50 times and i still get the same results after downgrade hold the volume down and hit power i get a steady really dim light for about ten seconds and thats it dont know what to do now
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
You're saying that it's writing to the device?

Put the battery in and plug it into the wall. As soon as you do that, hold vol - and power. It's sounding like it may be a dead battery.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] yergo88:
awesome tool! took me 7 tries to brick it but don't lose faith! the revolutionary s-off didn't work directly from your CD--said my code was not recognized but I just used my PC to unlock, also I had to install 1.13 from my SD card in hboot, the .exe didnt work.

PS: I think you should make note that the version of 2.17 has to match the version installed on your phone!!!!! right on the main page and not just in the faq. Excellent tool!!! so happy to be on 1.4 and s-off!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
another question...

i've read about 80 pages worth, gang...

still stuck on (what i believe to be) step 8 of closeone's 3rd post.

here's my info:

hardware 002.

2.17 rooted stock running. (no roms, just rooted and left alone)

htc unlocked. s-on.

i haven't done anything to my phone since htcdev unlocking.

i burned disc image, can boot into tool kit.

having issues relocking from toolkit/linux environment.

since nothing can be done until you relock your phone...these have been my 1st steps into the entire downgrade process.

--IF YOU ARE HTCDev UNLOCKED--

5. Reboot your computer into the Toolkit (CD/USB flash drive)

(CHECK!!)

6. Power off your phone completely (you may have to pull the battery and put it back in after powering off)

(CHECK!!!)

7. Plug the phone into the computer without powering it on

(CHECK!!!)

8. Use the 'Bootloader' command. This should power back on the phone. (If not, Hold Vol - and press the power button) - Ensure that you are S-ON. (If you see the word 'FASTBOOT' highlighted in red, hit the power button)

here's where i get stuck. it doesn't power my phone back on.

i've tried more than my fair share of times.

anyone have any ideas?

9. If you are HTCDev Unlocked -> Run the 'Relock' command from the main menu.

10. Reboot your computer and continue.

any and all help...

APPRECIATED!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Pull your battery, then replace it and hold down vol down and the power button at the same time.
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
i was afraid of that...

i'll just keep plugging away at it, then, until it catches!

thanks, again, guys!

btw, unknownforce and closeone...thanks. a million.

[HMMPH...after i rooted the first time around (via htcdev unlock) i chose to install clockworkmod TOUCH recovery. i'm thinking the only logical reason for my troubles is the charge/mount issue possibly affecting my ability to mount the phone via the toolkit.]

anyone care to weigh in?

either way...i'll go ahead and change it for the stock non-touch clockworkmod.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
I'm having some issues getting my device to brick. I cant actually wait 5 seconds because after about 4 it moves to the next item to update.

Also when I run the device status command from the toolkit I get an error when it tries to getvar serial.

I have a factory stock hboot 1.5000 device and have not used the htc dev unlock method.

Any help is appreciated.
[HTC EVO 3D] fusiondynamics:
So I got it to downgrade and s-off with revolutionary. For some reason it says i'm not rooted. On the boot menu, I do have the revolutionary and s-off showing. But when I try to run something that requires root, it says that i'm not rooted. Also I already have superuser installed. what could be wrong? What's the best step to get "Rooted" again and i'll try revolutionary again, because right now when I run it again, it says that i'm rooted. really confused.

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@DarkManX4lf I think your best best is not to time it like that. I think you just need to pull it just when it's about to change to the second update. So if yours is about 4 seconds, time yourself to pull it right before it's about to go to the second part.
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
Uninstall superuser, then go back into recovery, and flash the superuser.zip. Don't forget to wipe.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi cipher77. Make sure that you lock the phone again. This will not work if the phone is HTCDev unlocked. Once Relocked, you should be able to continue on. The Device Check only works when the phone is booted into the bootloader (in FASTBOOT USB mode). Mistake on my part.

The getvar serial was another mistake on my part. I should have programmed it to getvar serialno. It won't affect operation of the downgrade though. Timing varies from device to device. It may be less time or more. Just keep trying. ;)

Nothing went wrong with Revolutionary. If you've got the nice -Revolutionary- banner in recovery, you're set. My suggestion is that instead of using a stock ROM, that you use another ROM on the forums. If not, take a look at the Resources area of post #3. Mpgrimm2 links to some 'Stock Rooted ROMs' that would be on the new base.

~co~

Edit: I swear I didn't see your message there G.Newton. Weird... Thanks! (That's another way you can root. Again, my suggestion is to defiantly install one of the ROMs on here for a better experience. Don't take OTA updates if you decide to stay stock.
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
hey, closeone...thanks for the info.

it turns out i was right, tho.

clockworkmod TOUCH was not allowing my box to detect it as mounted.

(again, this version has that issue...and, charging issues.)

i went in and downgraded to cwm 4.xx.xx.

as soon as that was installed i booted back up into toolkit and my shooter was picked up straight away allowing me to relock it. could be a matter of coincidence...but, i'd bet it was the touch version issue.

now [sigh] in the middle of my 5oth+ attempt at bricking!

woohoo...

fun.

swapped my card for an 8gb class 4. (from 32/10.)

i'm starting to feel "unbrickable" (starring bruce willis and sam jackson!!)!!!

on a more serious note...thanks for all the hard work you guys have put in.

-77
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm sorry. I misunderstood you. Glad you have it. Just remember that you're not completely unbrickable (brick with this procedure (again) while S-OFF, and you won't be able to recover from it). Just a small note.

Have fun, ;)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
hahaha...i must have marbles in my mouth, closeone!

what i meant...was that i'm starting to feel like i'll NEVER get it bricked (so that i can move on to the next step)...hence, unbrickable.

i was always terrible with analogies.

but, i'm sticking with the program...

i'm sure i'll get the timing right soon enough...

thanks again!
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
it's all in the timing,

like the start of NHRA drag race

practive makes perfect !

keep on keep on - you'll get it !
[HTC EVO 3D] mmvic:
holy cow i think i just bricked my second phone... same problem as first phone, after i brick it the downgrade completes but nothing after that. phone will not turn on, red light stays solid dim, when i plug into the computer it doesnt recognize it. help please, i cannot go back to the sprint store twice in one week
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
I bricked the phone after a few more tries. I'm officially downgraded thanks !!!
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
First. Make sure that the battery is out of the phone when you do the downgrade. When you select the downgrade option. It will say 'Waiting for device'. You'll hold down the Vol - key while plugging it in. After you unplug the device, you'll press enter and get the 'Waiting for device' message again. Hold Vol - while plugging it in again.

The battery should be out the entire time.

Once it is done, unplug the phone, put the battery back in and press the Vol - and power buttons at the same time.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] mmvic:
Thanks for the quick reply, I do that exactly, I am stumped.... First time this happened I assumed that it was bc I ran the 2.17 and my phone was not up to date.. Now everything was up to date and it was factory locked and the same thing happened.
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
so, you start at beginning, and the very first time you pull the plug to brick it,

nothing happens after that very first time ?

you are saying the downgrade completes. how do you know that ?
[HTC EVO 3D] kaw900r:
Brick

Can't get my phone to brick, i have tried several times over the past week. Anyone have any tricks I can try to get it done?
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Make sure to read Unknownforce's FAQ (post #2 of his thread) for more info. Make sure to vary your timing. If you can't get it with the charging cable, you might want to try doing a battery pull. Same effect, just a different method. Just need to cut power at the right time.

You'll get it, :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Is anything different from the instructions in post #3? Any errors? Give me as much information as you can.

Now, the other thing you might try, is doing it with a different computer. I would recommend that.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] mmvic:
wow! hooked it uo to my 12 year old laptop running xp and it worked. that was amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Great! :) I'm glad that it worked with a different computer!

Thanks,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
finally...

got my phone bricked.

can get on with the rest of the toolkit steps.

as i've read along with the thread i've noticed how there is the occasional post with descriptions of what has, or has not, worked with regard to bricking.

yes, definitely keep trying. the numbers are with you the more you do it.

then, there are the various tips/tricks.

so, it's certainly got a bit to do with WHEN you pull the plug.

HOWEVER, in so far as the electrical engineering goes...

once it occurred to me to think about what was happenning...i realised that just as important as WHEN you pull the plug...is PUTTING THE PLUG BACK IN.

as everyone has said...you're basically shorting the circuit.

think about adding a qiuck jolt to your heart with a defib unit.

just pulling the plug won't necessarily do that.

putting it back in again, however...adds that immediate and very unexpected and electrically unhealthy "spark" so to speak.

as soon as i concentrated on plugging it back in qiuckly enough to short it...

it worked straight away.

again...just my two cents to add to the soup.

thanks again to closeone and unknownforce...and, everyone else!!

hopefully, i'll report the full (uneventful) downgrade in a few...
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
awesome!!!

this was a hell of an experience.

fully unlocked/s-off with revolutionary!!!

about to add recovery.

how does everyone feel about 4ext?

it says recommended...i've always used cwm.

i guess it's time to start using something new!

thanks again, closeone.

unknownforce...you're the man.

thanks a ton to the two of you.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Thanks! :)

I'm not everyone, but I like 4EXT very much. Try it! If you don't like it, you can always switch to something else. ;) (Yup. It says recommended next to it. That was my doing. :D) Thanks to madmaxx82 for letting me include it. Check out his thread to see what he's up to.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
I don't think I was super quick with putting it back in (maybe 1.5 - 3 seconds after pulling the plug). Damn thing wouldn't go in at first.

When you pull the plug, you're essentially shutting off the voltage/current source. All the circuit elements (diodes, resistors, op-amps, etc) produce no voltage drop across them either anymore. It's almost like having a switch to connect the source to circuit, or connects the source to an empty wire (open circuit/short circuit). When reconnecting the source to the circuit, the circuit resumes operation, and the circuit elements produce the same voltage drop across them again.

Basically I don't see how plugging the cord back in is extremely important. "unhealthy electric spark? - can you elaborate on this please?

EDIT: I bricked on first attempt.
[HTC EVO 3D] forty9er:
Ok everyone finally got tried it on a diffrent computer and ran the tool kit via usb and ran the downgrade and then booted up thanks to everyone for their help
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
While I like the theory, I must disagree.

We're not actually doing electrical shocking or short circuiting or anything like that. Also, plugging it back in doesn't help or change anything it either. I originally thought it did too, so don't feel bad. But after thinking about it logically, it makes sense now.

The reason of pulling the cord is to Interrupt the flashing of the hboot at the exact time it's writing it to the correct partition. What this does is interrupt the stream of data to it and cause it to write incorrectly and/or incomplete.

The reason we do this is to invalidate the signature on it. While S-ON, of the many security functions built in to the Radio is one that checks the signature of several partitions before allowing the phone to power up. When we corrupt the hboot partition, the radio checks the signature, which fails, and then throws the phone into it's emergency download mode.

So, there's really nothing more going on than that.

I noticed it worked for you, so I'm glad it worked. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
simply brillant, i tell ya, simply brillant !
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
yeah...i think you guys are right.

more than likely had nothing to do with plugging it back in.

but, it FELT like a good theory!

ha!

so far so good, btw.

error #16, though.

can't call out.

everything else works.

finally going to take the time to figure it out.

but, i'm all rev'ed up and s-off.

can't ask for anything else!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Do a ##72786# put in MSL and do menu and reset
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
:)

This should help you with the error 16 issue cipher77.

~co~

EDIT: Are you kidding me Unknownforce? :p Lol. I still can't hit that submit button fast enough. Same timestamp too. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Haha, quick at the draw.
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
thanks, guys...

did a search earlier and got it all figured out.

but, damn...you guys are on top of *everything!*

off to rom land...
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I guess we both lost. :D

Glad you got it all sorted out.

~co~