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[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
When I get to this section: i AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH A COUPLE OF STEPS...

New Instructions for 0.6.5s or Higher

What you'll need:

A 256MB USB Flash Drive (Almost any flash drive you have laying around)

HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit ISO 0.6.5s or Higher (Above)

Core2USB

Step 1. Simply download Core2USB from here.

Step 2. Choose your USB Flash Drive and format it (This will delete all files from it, so back them up). Am I suppose to place the core2usb and the Toolkit on the flash drive then run the process?

Step 3. Run the Core2USB software. It won't install anything on your computer.

Step 4. Browse to the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit ISO.

Step 5. Double-click on the letter of your USB Flash Drive. Make sure that this is the correct drive.

Step 6. Click Install It will not let me install in the core2usb prompt/

Step 7. Reboot your computer with the USB Flash Drive inserted, and follow the onscreen instructions to downgrade your HBOOT.
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Leave the core2 and .ISO on your pc. Run core2 from pc.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Got it! Getting ready to brick!!! Hope this works!

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ok computer rebooted and there is no "on screen procedures??

Does that make sense?

EDIT>>> There are 2 files on the flash drive>> boot and tce? But the drive doesn't automatically open and if i open the Hboot Tool Kit from my computer it just gives me burning options not the opportunity to type "d"??

I am sorry guys if you've covered this but I have know where else to ask?...

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13. Once the phone is in a bricked state, boot up into the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit.

I am at this point and stuck? ^^^^^^^

Am I suppose to boot up into hboot Downgrade Toolkit on my?
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi there theotrman. Sorry. Busy day, busy week... gahh. :)

Can you tell me what happens (what you see) when you boot into the Toolkit? Where exactly are you stuck? Press Enter when you see the TinyCore boot screen. That will take you into it.

Edit: Yes, you must reboot your computer to get into the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit. If it doesn't start, you may have to change your BIOS settings so that your Boot order is USB devices first.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Thank you so much for the help. When I initially installed following procedures listed in Post #3. The TinyCore Prompt installed the hboot toolkit which I browsed to. Then when I reboot, nothing.. No on screen procedures.

Edit: Yes, you must reboot your computer to get into the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit. If it doesn't start, you may have to change your BIOS settings so that your Boot order is USB devices first.

I think this maybe my problem? Where would I find this to change it?
[HTC EVO 3D] Astrikz:
Im sure its been asked before but i dont wanna search in all 72 pages.

Anyways.

Im not able too boot into the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit Live CD with a USB i have triedd both 0.7.0 and 0.6.5 versions.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
iTzLOLtrain, I'm assuming that it's not booting from a USB stick for you as well (just boots Windows as normal)?

For both of you, insert your USB flash drive (with the 0.7.0 version). As your computer starts turning on, try tapping the F12 key on your keyboard rapidly. This usually brings up the Boot Menu (this key may be different from computer to computer). Find the option for your USB flash drive and press enter to boot. It may be different though. You may want to look at the bottom of the screen as it's booting. Often times, you'll see text such as "Press Del to enter the BIOS" or "Press F12 for Boot Menu."

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
This seems to be my issue too. I have been able to run the core2usb and the files are on my USB which I formatted prior. but no luck booting into the HBOOT Toolkit Live CD using the USB. The files went to the correct driver, I' at a loss??
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
See if my response above your post helps. ;)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Thank yo Closeone. I'm redownloading the Toolkit and running it fresh. I'll follow your instructions.

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Okay I got into boot menu and chose USB (option 6) and after I hit "enter" it booted into normal windows?
[HTC EVO 3D] Astrikz:
I got it to work.

Turned of pc. turned it back on. and kept pressing (ect) and it took me to the boot menu were it asked me from what drive i would like to boot from. and it was also able to recognize my device.

another question. On step 13

Should be disconnected from the usb?

On the brick process it says remove the usb then plug it back in once 5 seconds has gone by. so once i plug back the usb. i should live it like that or remove the usb.?

Because on step 18

It says plug the phone in?

So my question is. Should i remove the usb phone once its bricked?

Then boot into the downgrade toolkit
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Closeone,

I am able to get into my boot menu and chose, but for some reason my computer still starts in Windows mode...
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Leave it unplugged until you're ready to run the downgrade. :)

Is there a different option in that menu? It should recognize your USB flash drive. If you can't figure out which on it is, boot up the computer to that menu without the USB flash drive plugged in. See which entry on the list disappears. Shut down the computer. Boot it back up again to the boot menu and select the entry that wasn't there before.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Astrikz:
@closeone- Just to double check.

on the brick method. Once i remove the device after 5 seconds i shouldn't plug it back in until i run the downgrade?
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Okay. I'm trying that now. I really appreciate you walking me through this.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
No. It's fine to do that. It's not even a bad idea to stick the battery back in to make sure that it was bricked. Just make sure to take it out when you run the unbrick. Just don't overthink this iTzLOLtrain. ;) Just follow the guide, and you should be fine. :)

No problem at all. I'm happy to help. :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Still struck out. I even went into setup manager and setup which boots 1st and saved the order. No luck though. Going to try another usb port on the computer.

But I think I tried that already. :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I might recommend formatting the USB stick in Windows. Go to 'Computer.' Right-click on the USB flash drive. Click format. Make sure that the file system is set to FAT32. Tick the box that says 'Quick Format.' Click format.

Now go through the Core2USB process again.

After that's done, reboot.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
I just don't understand what Im doing wrong.. the computer still boots into windows, even after changing the order.:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] Astrikz:
Have you tried pressing (esc) when the computer is booting? That's how i got mine to work.

About to start the process so which me luck. Haha
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
It sounds like he got into it, but is just having problems booting the environment. (Just a side note, trying another computer might not be a bad idea).

And of course iTzLOLtrain, I wish you the best of luck! ;)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
okay Closeone I think I'm there!!! I'm at a black screen but know instructions???

It's syslinux 4.05.

EDIT>>>>>> Didn't work. I have literally changed every variable for the order in which the computer boots..
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
What else do you see on the screen? You should be able to press enter to boot into the environment.

You'll see a screen with many options.

Downgrade (unbrick) device

Check Device Status

Run Revolutionary

Flash Recovery

If you don't see that, then something is still wrong. If you can spare a CD-R, that would be your best bet at this moment.

I'm sorry.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
yeah, Im think only oing to get it to work with CD-R.

Thank you for your help and I'll give the cd a shot..

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after the cd is don writing and ejects to be verified.

Do I need to reboot the computer?

How do I get into the computer in this state?

13. Once the phone is in a bricked state, boot up into the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Read up on Unknownforce's thread for bricking instructions.

But make sure that the CD boots first! Yes, you need to reboot your computer.

Edit: By the way. I'm just making sure, you didn't burn the ISO file itself to the CD. You burned it using the ISO image burning mode of your CD Burning software.

There are instructions for that in my post #3 as well. Sorry for being a little late on that.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
yes, I believe so. the iso file meaning HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit.. It's still not rebooting in the toolkit enviroment. I wonder if it's because I have 2 cd burner drivers. Toshiba and Windows..??
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Not quite the reason. Follow the guide in Post #3 to burn the ISO properly to the disc. I'm sorry about that.

:(

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
I burned the HBoot ToolKit Live CD iso. to the CD-R. Used Windows Image burner.

Then once that finished it eject and verified that "successfully burned disc image to the disc".

Now should I reinsert the disc and reboot the computer?

Also should the computer automatically boot into the disc/HBOOT Toolkit Live CD environment?
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Yes. Unless your BIOS settings are not right. Just switch them around so that CDs boot first (or use the boot menu).

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Astrikz:
I am now on hboot 1.40 with s-OFF thanks CLOSEONE!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] gokart2:
Me too. Thanks for an easier s-off. I very much appreciate ur work and making this process easier for a noob-ish person. Even though I been around for a lil while. Regardless, thank u very much!
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
You are both very welcome. I'm glad that I've been able to help. :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] -Apollo-:
Thanks for this! It went really smooth...good job guys, really appreciate your hard work, you guys are awesome!!:D
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
@theotrman,

Didn't intend to leave u hanging earlier, got busy & couldn't get back to the thread. Looks like Closeone's got u covered.

Sidenote: Depending on your pc/motherboard's age, some bios's won't support booting to a usb device. In that situation ur only option is to burn the cd & set BIOS to boot first to cd drive.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
I don't know why my computer would boot the image or cd up. The boot order was changed and after the restart it still won't boot the cd.

Toshiba-Satellite-655L model.. just a year old..

I guess full root is not for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
I'm gonna assume u have redownloaded the .ISO file & verified the md5. Tried another pc? One of those 2 options should work for you; cd or usb.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
I so much appreciate the help you guys are giving me help in this process. I'm in my home office this week and footage get root before I travel.

That's my next step. Try the downstairs computer, but that one is older and on Windows XP. Will that matter?
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Shouldn't. Others have done it on XP. Usb boot will depend on your BIOS but cd should always work if you burn the .ISO correctly.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
In the initial computer, the Toshiba, after I burned the the Hboot Toolkit to the cd. It verified and said that I successfully burned the disc image on the disc. But then when I reboot the computer loads windows, not the Hboot Toolkit Environment.:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Have u tried pressing F8 or ESC during boot to get a windows boot options menu?

GL, I have to get to bed.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Browse the CD In windows, what files/folders do you see on the CD?
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Started from scratch, for some reason when I browse the cd and click on it it gives me the option to:

1. Treat as a USB and change or write files to it.

2. Burn adio files on it.

*** I chose open as a USB and then the computer formats it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
The CD is blank if it's asking you that, so your burn wasn't successful.

Download and install ImgBurn. Open that and select Write Image to disc. Click the folder to find and select the iso file you downloaded from here, and click the Write button.

Then boot from that CD.

Also, don't post the same thing in both threads, you're going to confuse people.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Understood and I won't let it happen again. I thought since this was Toolkit related that it should go over there?

I apologize.

Which one? Option for SetupImageBurn_2.5.7.0 exe?
[HTC EVO 3D] demonike84:
Worked perfect

loaded the iso to usb via YUMI, took about 50 tries to brick the phone, but it worked.

Thanks a lot
[HTC EVO 3D] czarphanguye:
Followed this thread and successfully HTBOOT 1.50 S-on to 1.40 S-off. Thanks ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
You are okay theotrman, but Toolkit related questions go in this thread. To add to what Unknownforce said, it keeps the threads clean(er) and doesn't cause people to go off giving different conflicting advise in both threads.

(Thanks Unknownforce)

Direct download link.

http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.7.0.exe

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=976068&d=1333252341

^-- Pictures taken by honorlost84 a while back.

I know that these instructions slightly repeat Unknownforce's, but I had them from another time when somebody was having CD burning issues.

Once installed, select the upper left button.

(Write Image File to Disc). Insert your CD-R.

Click the little folder and browse for the ISO.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=976072&d=1333252874

Where it says Write Speed, set it to the 8x or close.

Click the write button.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm glad that everything worked for you both!

Thanks,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
This was the error that I got>>>

I 12:03:16 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!

I 12:03:16 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 12:03:16 Total Physical Memory: 3,926,936 KB - Available: 2,104,436 KB

I 12:03:16 Initialising SPTI...

I 12:03:16 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 12:03:17 -> Drive 1 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633Y TF20 (D:) (SATA)

I 12:03:17 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 12:05:30 Operation Started!

I 12:05:30 Source File: C:\HBOOT_Downgrade_Toolkit_0.6.5s.iso

I 12:05:30 Source File Sectors: 13,105 (MODE1/2048)

I 12:05:30 Source File Size: 26,839,040 bytes

I 12:05:30 Source File Volume Identifier: Tinycore

I 12:05:30 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING

I 12:05:30 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), Joliet

I 12:05:30 Destination Device: [2:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633Y TF20 (D:) (SATA)

I 12:05:30 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.)

I 12:05:30 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x

I 12:05:30 Destination Media Sectors: 359,844

I 12:05:30 Write Mode: CD

I 12:05:30 Write Type: SAO

I 12:05:30 Write Speed: MAX

I 12:05:30 Lock Volume: Yes

I 12:05:30 Test Mode: No

I 12:05:30 OPC: No

I 12:05:30 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 12:05:34 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x)

I 12:05:34 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)

I 12:05:37 Writing LeadIn...

I 12:06:04 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 13104)

I 12:06:04 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 13104)

I 12:06:19 Synchronising Cache...

I 12:06:29 Exporting Graph Data...

I 12:06:29 Graph Data File: C:\Users\tsanborn\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_TS-L633Y_TF20_MONDAY-APRIL-30-2012_12-05_PM_97m26s66f_MAX.ibg

I 12:06:29 Export Successfully Completed!

I 12:06:29 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:59

I 12:06:29 Average Write Rate: 1,872 KB/s (12.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1,872 KB/s (12.5x)

I 12:06:29 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 12:06:54 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 12:07:18 Device Ready!

E 12:07:18 CompareImageFileLayouts Failed! - Session Count Not Equal (1/0)

E 12:07:18 Verify Failed! - Reason: Layouts do not match.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Please check into these threads on ImgBurn's forum.

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=18736

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=17404

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=17061

Sounds like it's either the drive or the CDs that you're burning to. If you've got some other brand CD-Rs, I'd recommend trying one of them. If that doesn't work, it might be the burner. :(

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Im checking those threads.. Thank you so much for helping me with this!

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Okay, just tried 3 different discs one the device couldn't be recognized, the other 2 "failed to match layouts". So this leads me to believe it may be my burner.. But I burn files, to cds all the time. In fact I just burned music to a cd to see if it would work and it did???
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Sounds more like the CD's that you're using aren't the right type...

Do you have other CD's that you can try?
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
I used 1 - Sony CD-R and a TDK CD-R both with writable speeds at 52x. They were all sealed in the case, but i am going to try this on another computer and buy some different cds.... :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Try writing at a lower speed, like 24x or 12x, just to see if it helps at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Just curious, is there a way to boot the usb from a Command Window?
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
No there isn't.

The Toolkit doesn't boot from within Windows. It is, in fact, a completely different operating system. It runs live, meaning that it won't install itself onto your computer.

Have you tried this with a different USB Flash Drive?

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Thought I would ask, but your response prooves exactly how new I am.

Yes, I tried 2 USB.

1st one was new and the files loaded on it fine. The 2nd one was gently used and the files loaded fine. I'm going to try take the USB to another computer and see if it will run the usb at boot. I guess my next question is, the other computer has my Android tools, SDK, HTC, etc. Would I need all those tools loaded on the computer(downstairs) that currently doesn't have them?
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Boot devices are determined by a boot sector and it's the BIOS that reads the boot sector and determines what to do with it. So no, you have to boot to the USB or CD via your bios.

You don't need any of those tools to boot and do the downgrade.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Thank you. Nothing this good is every easy, at least that seems to apply to me...

On a different computer and the burner said I successfully burned the image to the CD!!!!!!!

The computer that I am on now has none of the Android SDK Tools or for that matter has every had a phone plugged into it. Top that off its Vista operating system...

Do I need any of those tools loaded on this (Vista) computer to complete the process?

AND WHETHER I GET THIS DONE OR NOT>>> SENDING A DONY TONIGHT TO BOTH YOU AND CLOSEONE FOR ALL THE HELP AND HAND HOLDING THAT YOU BOTH HAVE DONE FOR ME.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
No need for the tools, after you get it downgraded you can switch back to your regular computer, you're not using the windows on it, you're booting to the CD and using the linux to do the downgrade, that's all.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
Ok. I know this sound remedial, but once I'm done with step 23 then I can just plug it in to the computer that has the tools, but isn't running the software?
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
It successfully downgraded? Pop the battery back in and power it up into the bootloader. Check for the version number 1.40. I'm not sure what tools you're talking about. But, run the 1.13 RUU in Windows. Then, if you wish, you can then boot back up into the environment and run Revolutionary (after obtaining your beta key) and flash recovery to the phone if you wish.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Albeit misleading, yes, that's correct, because you can run the revolutionary in windows. Just download it from revolutionary.io

closeone,

Step 23 is a bit confusing as it's worded... because the phone will turn on after that process of course. Maybe change it a bit to put the power test in like step 14 or whatever.
[HTC EVO 3D] theotrman:
IMG! Holy Toledo! My computer booted the HBoot ToolKit!.. all the options are there! I'm going to charge my phone and run this later! Thank-you Both so much! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
You make a good point. Humm... I need to make some changes to that. By the way, I'm curious. When I ran the 1.13 RUU, I ran the zip, not the executable. I've been a little curious about why you recommend the executable. The reason I ask, is because of some changes in new version... :rolleyes:

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] ssojyeti2:
Sorry for noob question... If this is supposed to be a live CD, I'm supposed to burn the ISO image to a black CD, right? I keep trying that and my computer doesn't recognize the disk as a live CD, the downgrade program never opens. I've tried this on both Windows and Ubuntu. Please help...
[HTC EVO 3D] jhuff83:
Right click the ISO and then open with the windows burn utility. I downloaded wubi beforehand. After your cd is burnt, pop it in and boot from the cd. I actuallly did this on two computers. Used my desktop for the first two steps then laptop for third.

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Those 75 hour weeks probably look good when pay day comes.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Thank you. I'll also try to clear up the description in this thread so that people know what they're downloading.

I took a look at the source for emmc_recover. If my C is serving me correctly, a simple timed loop that goes through devices sdb13 through sdz13, and loops back, is something that I could see working. Of course, again, I'm being pretty naive. 75 hour work-weeks. I feel for you. :(

Thank you! I appreciate it a lot.

Interesting. I didn't know that you could go about it without having to do a Revolutionary run-through (or three).

It's times like these where I wish I had a second device to work with so that I could do testing, and still have my phone available to me. I just need it too much during the week. Definitely would come in handy testing the boot CD as well.

Thanks again Unknownforce.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Don't be sorry. :) Hopefully, you're running Windows 7. I know that it has the Windows Disc Image Burner that jhuff83 mentioned. I believe, if I remember correctly, Windows Vista has it too. I'll have to look into something simple for other OS's as well.

Thanks jhuff83.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
That's pretty much what I was thinking as well, I'd have to reduce the time in which it loops, because right now it's doing one a second, this would have to reduce a lot to cover all grounds. But I was also looking more to doing a device name matching, I just have to figure out the exact name of the device it's adding and look at some kernel debugs of when I connect it. Then just do a simple check for that device description, and then make it an option like --partition rather than --device, so this way it's still waiting for a device, but it matches by description rather than the /dev name.

Well it only makes sense to do it this way, to consolidate all steps into one, however, and I still have to check, but I think the S-OFF partition MIGHT contain some sensitive information, or rather... UNIQUE phone identification information, if that's the case, we'd have to do a dd PULL of the partition image, hex change to S-OFF, and then a dd PUSH of the fixed image. This obviously would take longer, which again is pressing us against this 5 second emmc mode time limit... Not only this, but you're putting a lot of faith into S-OFF'ing your device while it's bricked... I'm not confident in the safeness of this just yet.

I just have to play around with it when I get time... a second "test" device would be awesome, as I do use my own device as my personal device, and I use it regularly, but all in good time I guess.