yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm glad that you got it squared away. Thanks! I would believe that you could update the radios without any problem, but I don't know for sure. You would do that by placing the zip file containing the radio update in the root of your SD card, and changing the file name to PG86IMG, like you said.

Running other RUUs won't take you back to S-ON, but they will likely upgrade your bootloader back to 1.5. I would personally recommend against running any other RUUs for now. Just stick to the ROMs you find here in the EVO 3D development board.

I would also make a backup of the changes using QPST just in case (haven't used it myself, but there should be a guide or two around here about how to use it).

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] ronyoung08:
I have the 1.40 bootloader S-ON with 2.17 now but when I try to flash the PG86IMG to flash 1.13 (only have access to a mac right now) it reads it but doesn't let me update. How do I get the bootloader to let me update it.
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
thanks for the support closeone !. I'm at 1.40 now and finishing up.

5 am and I'm going to have one of the brewskys I'm sending you !

forget the dim light just go with the tool !
[HTC EVO 3D] lpjzfan2005:
If you're on 1.13 with Hboot 1.4 you either have the wrong pg86img or you need to run revolutionary, I'd try to find a new pgimg first
[HTC EVO 3D] ronyoung08:
I'm still on 2.17 with the 1.4 s-on bootloader and I'm trying to flash the 1.13 pg86img so I can use Revolutionary.
[HTC EVO 3D] lpjzfan2005:
That's what I meant... Hmm I have the file on my comp. My only guess is you downloaded the wrong pg86img, one with the Hboot gone, if so then it won't do it since you are s-on it would verify the signing of it... That's my best guess sir, try downloading it again
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Do what's in This Post

Except change the version number to 1.10.651.1 not the 2.00 number they have.

After you change the version, you can then run the 1.13 RUU properly from fastboot USB.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Actually, scratch that...

Download the RUU EXE file Not zip file for 1.13, and run it while the phone is in fastboot USB mode.
[HTC EVO 3D] fetalp:
Omg getting frustrated, alright let me see if I can post what's going on. I got a replacement evo3d last week and saw this post wasn't sure if I was going to try but here I am....ok have the live cd downloaded burned and loaded, before that though ive been trying to get my phone to brick. I have read the other forum and the first 73 pages and still can't get this phone to brick, it's running stock 2.17 says locked and I have pulled the cord anywhere between 1-5 sec or wait till the load bar first appears so many different yet little ways, and every time I just get a very very dim red flash not a steady light. Now if it does work with a blinking dim red light I have then tried to hold down vol down and plug in the power with live cd and still no go, please any help would be great
[HTC EVO 3D] ehurt152:
I had to change cords for mine to actually work. I never got a light at all, flashing or steady.
[HTC EVO 3D] dimebagdan65:
You got it, bud, and let me say it's nice to see you actively keeping things on point in here! And that's what my ma calls me nowadays lol and feel free to use the sig, no credit necessary, the fool part I saw from someone here on XDA, the sponge line is a Dime original, but all my knowledge and wit is pure open source, use as you see fit :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm going to have to add misc_version changing back into the toolkit version. Just swamped right now.

Lol... Thanks. But you stole post 1000. :( I'll happily take reply 1000 though. ;)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
No need for this, my brain was not functioning this morning, and I thought that he had somehow re-applied the 2.17 patch on the 1.40 hboot while retaining 1.40 hboot... which isn't possible while still S-ON.

He was just on the part to flash the 1.13 image, and it's not working. My post was irrelevant to his issue.

The misc_version tool isn't necessary at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Understandable, but, if anything, it would be useful to put it back in for those few times where the user hasn't done the second part of the downgrade process (using the downgrade tool). At that point, it becomes a little difficult to get back on track without either reupping and bricking again, or running the misc_version tool. My assumption is that the first time the device is plugged in, the 1.40.0000 HBOOT is flashed. Then the cable is taken out, and plugged back in for version changing. (?)

Thanks,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Other way around, because after the hboot flash, the device is fully functional again, and no longer bricked.

Remember the only thing stopping the device from booting is the corrupt hboot partition. So until that's fixed, you can flash anything to any of the partitions, and it just so happens that the misc version has it's OWN partition, so it made it easy to condense that into one step.

So there would be no way for them to downgrade without the version getting flashed first.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Oh. Really... Very nice. Didn't think about the fact that other partitions could be flashed while bricked. Of course... that was dumb, because, if you can flash the HBOOT partition, what's stopping you from flashing others. Derp moment.

Thank you Unknownforce.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
closeone and unknownforce

i just want to say thank you to you two guys

for all you've done and all the support you've provided others.

i would be more than happy to send both of you some brewskys (paypal),

as i like supporting devs/contributors, even when it's not necessary.

let me know. thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
I'm just glad to contribute even a little back to a community that has given me so much.

As to the donation, that's completely up to you. But much like at a bar/pub/club, I won't say no to a beer. :)

Cheers!
[HTC EVO 3D] dimebagdan65:
If it makes you feel any better, I got snaked out of post 420 in another thread haha. One of these days I'll take the plunge and do this. Probably when I'm house sitting later this month and will be around wifi. For the time though, my phone is my lifeline and my only internet connection
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Wow. Thank you lowetax. That was unexpected.

As am I. Even if my contribution wasn't nearly as big as so many of the other people in this great community.

Thank you,

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] rickpref:
What about for windows 8? I'm trying to install these drivers but it fails. I figure it has something to do with windows 8 and I can't find anything on the internet...thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] Adam1422:
Quick question...

I just ran with the instructions in the 3rd post of this and am now revo s-off and h-boot is 1.40. I dont want to sound like a noob but when i booted the phone up i dont see the superuser icon. How do I achieve root?
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
if you're keeping the stock rom (ruu), then you install from market (play).

normally flashing recovery (via fastboot or PG86IMG.zip) and su are part of the end game in the process.

i flashed recovery and then restored a backup which contained superuser.
[HTC EVO 3D] Adam1422:
I flashed clockworkmod with the PG86IMG.zip and now should i do the revolutionary method to achieve full root? I didnt have a backup with super user as I just got the phone a week ago cause my 4yr old daughter took my beloved OG evo for a bath. I followed the instructions to a "T" and now am at the point of trying to figure out how to get super user access.
[HTC EVO 3D] rickpref:
Sorry, nevermind...I reformatted another computer here with Win7 and installed the driver, worked fine. One other problem I had that I didn't see in the instructions is that when you get your Beta Key from Revolutionary and you are using the Live CD version of rooting, you have to pick Linux as your operating system instead of Windows. I kept getting invalid beta key until I realized that I was running a LiveCD of Tinycore and then changed OS version in Revolutionaty to Linux and my Beta key worked perfectly...maybe that should be specified in the instructions...would have saved me a bit of time, might be helpful for others.

Rooted and running Myns new ROM now...thanks for all your work guys
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
sent you PM with info and link
[HTC EVO 3D] rockypr:
Ok guys got a few questions, Does this is the only way to Root my 1.50 EVO 3d?

Does the HTC Method dont work?

Thanks for the info
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
The HTC Method works, but it's limiting to you (the end user). One such thing is that you can't flash to your boot partition, so if your custom ROM requires a different kernel, you'll need to flash it in a roundabout manner. It's very possible, but cumbersome. HTC also has a record of which phones have been unlocked with the HTCDev method, but not with the Revolutionary method, unless you were previously HTCDev unlocked. With Revolutionary S-OFF, you can flash ROMs with little hassle, restore backups easier, flash radios, custom splash screens, etc. You have a lot more freedom to do what you want with your phone.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] nolimit06:
I have a Evo3D on the way and it should be here Friday, since I am just starting with this phone do I need to skip to step 12 like your instructions say or just do each one? I was not planning on doing the HTCDev method unless I absolutely have to. Thanks in advance :)
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
nolimit06, very likely. I don't see why not. ;) It really depends on what's preloaded on your phone when you get it. You'll still need all the downloads mentioned in step 1 though.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] rockypr:
I was asking becuase I don't have any linux to work with the downgrade method and also with all the steps it kinds of scare me.

Any suggestions?
[HTC EVO 3D] bombader:
You don't need linux you just need a blank cd or a flash drive (the method I used)

don't be scared very easy to do follow the directions in the OP
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Well rockypr, you've come to the right place. ;) The HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit doesn't require you to install a distro of Linux on your computer. The ISO is only 30MB, and has everything* you need to downgrade/unbrick your phone, obtain Revolutionary S-OFF, and flash recovery. You'll simply reboot your computer to enter the Toolkit environment.

That may be the worst pseudo-marketing speak ever :), but I'll tell you that it's not as scary as it looks.

~co~

*You'll still need to download the two RUUs (see the guide for details), and obtain your Revolutionary key (instructions in post #3).
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
Just wanted to say thanks for the Hboot downgrade tool. Made life simple.

For those of you having issues with the built-in revolutionary tool, download the one for windows, and try it on your main OS instead. I could never get the damn thing to detect my device, then I forgot to UNINSTALL HTC Sync.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm happy that it helped G.Newton. :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] jrbe:
bricked

I tried flashing Newts One S beta rom with flash image gui and obviously screwed something up. My phone shows the white htc splashscreen then just goes black when i try to startup, sometimes all buttons lit and others with only the search button lit up. I can get into bootloader and recovery. I have tried multiple nandroid backups I had (with teamwin recovery) and they all seem to work but still go to the black screen. I also tried to install PG86IMG_2.17.651.5.zip (renamed to PG86IMG.zip on my sd card) but it always says e:Cant open /tmp/sideload/package.zip (bad) Im in the process of trying the PG86... from unknownforce's thread now.

I also tried to install the fresh-evo-3d-4.2.0.zip that i was using previously. It seems to flash ok but still parks at the black screen.

I have

***unlocked***

Shooter XC SHIP s-ON RL

HBOOT-1.50.0000

eMMC-boot

Aug 7 2011, 10.21:40

I also tried to run RUU_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_1.13.651.7_Radio_0.97.10.0530_NV_NV_SPCS_1.16_release_198109_signed.exe but it cannot find my device. Im on win 7 and havent had luck with it connecting to my phone.

I did run the "live cd" from a usb stick and was able to check device status but could not lock it, it just says waiting for device. Im not sure if I borked usb communications or what. It does show fastboot usb If Im connected.

Im at the end of what I could find to fix this. I think its bricked but need to Run the ruu to be able to use this tool correct?

I also cant get the phone to wake in any way just from usb power (no batt in.) My micro sd card is a class 4 (read the class 10's can pull a lot of power.) I tried another laptop too and same deal. I think i need to try my xp desktop machine to get the RUU to connect and have the usb power to do it. Im gonna go pick up my old xp box tonight and give that a shot.

I'd love to downgrade to hboot 1.4, if my phone is this far borked Im all for giving it a shot. Can anyone point me in the direction of what to do/try next?
[HTC EVO 3D] Adam1422:
Just wanted to say thank you!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU OP! Followed the instructions to a "T" last night and everything went well. Quick question...can I update my radios to the latest version 2.17? and if so can you point me in the right direction to get ahold of the latest radios? Thanks in advance! OP you rock!
[HTC EVO 3D] wwjoshdew:
Someone is thinking of trying this and making a video... I wonder who? I'm gonna get a replacement EVO3D soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Thanks Josh. I might have to either hurry up my new build or give you a prerelease copy (with a (new) thing or two missing). It's changed radically from my current version even.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
You're welcome! :) Glad everything went well!

Yes, you can update your radios to the 2.17 ones.

Grab the zip from here. ;)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm sorry jrbe, make sure to run the relock while booted into the bootloader (FASTBOOT USB mode). Power the phone off. Vol - and power to enter. Press power to enter the fastboot menu.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Alpine-:
Noobish question here. My refurb evo 3d replacement is sitting at home waiting for me. I assume it is HBOOT 1.5.

I plan to install the latest MeanROM (non ICS) on it. My question is, part of the HBOOT downgrade process calls for me flashing 1.13 RUU. Doesnt this flash older kernel, radio, etc. as well? So after Ive run Revolutionary and attained S-OFF with 1.13, can I go straight to flashing MeanRom without having to reflash the latest kernel/radio/etc.? This wont cause any issue?

I also want to install he 4EXT recovery instead of Clockwork. So should I just skip the recovery portion of the Toolkit, boot back into 1.13 rom, install 4EXT recovery with their .apk they released, then flash MeanRom?
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
freeza has an all in one firmware flash to bring you back to 2.17 firmware here -> Link

you can run this after revolutionary'ing. then flash the rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
1.13 RUU doesn't cause a problem.

on baseband version 0.97.10.0530

and i've flashed viperROM IC3D (with Sense 3.6)

and now fooling with Newt's One S RC 3 (with Sense 4.0).

wanted to see that camera work - snap snap snap snap !
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi Alpine,

Your questions are fine!

You may have to update your Radios (I would recommend it) if you wish to use some of these newer ROMs on the newer base. I've heard some people having problems with things not running correctly without the newer radios, and I've heard otherwise. Flashing the new radio update is easy. Just like flashing an RUU from the bootloader, you'll be asked if you wish to update. Grab the updated firmware from here. This won't update your bootloader back to 1.5.

I would recommend that you go ahead and at least install ClockworkMod to start, just in case. Then, when you want to move to 4EXT, you'll just flash right over it.

You'll flash your ROM of choice, then install 4EXT apk (also another reason why I recommend flashing recovery).

~co~

Edit --> The two people above were way faster than myself. Thanks guys. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Alpine-:
Thanks guys.

Big props to Unknownforce and closeone for bringing this to the people!
[HTC EVO 3D] rockypr:
Can be Burned to a DVD?
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Rockypr, you shouldn't have any problem burning it to a DVD. Just follow the burning instructions in post #3 as normal.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
Just double checking in case I get my Sprint Phone replaced that had HBOOT 1.40

I can take a brand spanking new EVO 3D and downgrade it to 1.40, then Revolutionary Root it and I get the same S-OFF I had on my original EVO 3D.

I had assumed this process had to go through HTC Unroot first and void your warranty. Then you downgrade. But the instructs say to first undo the HTC Unroot.

Just checking to see how hard I should keep trying to fix my S-OFF EVO.

I don't want make any mistakes or assumptions like I did installing Virgin Mobile Firmware.

Thanks for answering a newbie to downgrading question
[HTC EVO 3D] december.underground:
Thank you so much!!! Downgraded and ready to rock...
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
Thanks making this CD I'm flashing 1.13 RUU now.

Just some feedback. Step 23 is really confusing.

It says if it boots goto stepo 12. the phone was not bricked.

Well mine did boot and it was bricked and I checked the HBOOT and it is 1.4 !!!

So I'm not sure what that sentence is trying to say.

It has to boot to load 1.13 RUU on.

It's tricky pulling the plug at the right time. Took me 3 times.

And the FAQ is right. The moment you see the progress BAR FOR HBOOT that's the moment it needs to be pulled. If you see OK. It's too late which is at about 6 seconds.

The DIM light must be solid. If you miss. It blinks.

---------- Post added 11th May 2012 at 12:25 AM ---------- Previous post was 10th May 2012 at 11:49 PM ----------

On Step 24. Add Enabled USB debugging !!! Sratched my head on why Revolution could not find the device for a while.

I successfully downgraded.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Yay. Now you can change that Sad face in your signature to a happy one. ;)

I'm really sorry about that mswlogo. I have it on my to do list to correct these instructions. The last few weeks for me have been long and busy. Thank you. I'm hoping to make these changes soon (and release a new version that I've had in the works for a while).

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] SkinnyBlack313:
so below this is all i have to do with flash drive seems to easy lmao

What you'll need:

A 256MB USB Flash Drive (Almost any flash drive you have laying around)

HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit ISO 0.6.5s or Higher (Above)

Core2USB

Step 1. Simply download Core2USB from here.

Step 2. Choose your USB Flash Drive and format it (This will delete all files from it, so back them up).

Step 3. Run the Core2USB software. It won't install anything on your computer.

Step 4. Browse to the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit ISO.

Step 5. Double-click on the letter of your USB Flash Drive. Make sure that this is the correct drive.

Step 6. Click Install

Step 7. Reboot your computer with the USB Flash Drive inserted, and follow the onscreen instructions to downgrade your HBOOT.

Don't pull the flash drive out while you are booted into the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit Environment!
[HTC EVO 3D] Alpine-:
Just wanting to report I downgraded successfully last night, first try! Thanks to closeone for making it so easy for us and Unknownforce for all his hard work.

Two things I was curious about and might suggest you add to the walk-through to add some clarity and/or cause less issues.

This may not be universal (may vary from device to device) but from what I have seen/read, a blinking dim red led is not a brick. My device was not bricked until is was a solid dim red led. You might just note to people that if its not a SOLID (e.g. and is slow blinking) dim red led, its not bricked. Then again, perhaps this can vary.

The other thing I'd suggest in the walk-through/guide is to tell people to flash Freeza's firmware update after they are done with 1.13 + Revolutionary Unlock. This way, they get the latest radio, firmware, etc. This is especially important when flashing a 2.17 based rom like MeanRom. I could see some people just unlocking then flashing MeanRom over 1.13 without wiping or updating their firmware.

Awesome work!
[HTC EVO 3D] SkinnyBlack313:
im so confused when i put the boot cd i get 2 files that say boot and cde wat do i do next im already bricked
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
you need to restart your pc with CD in

and it should boot to the CD, you hit Enter, and then a menu shows up

@Alpine - i never did get any sort of light - dim, solid or blinking

(i think the phone knew it was going to be thrown into the river soon so it abided !)
[HTC EVO 3D] Bslydem:
Some how the directions for changing the misc version are not included where can they be found
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
This is done by the tool the first time you plug it in, no longer a manual process.
[HTC EVO 3D] mswlogo:
Nothing to be sorry for. I just wanted to give feedback to others and you so it can be refined.

Thanks !!
[HTC EVO 3D] evofreak80:
---------- Post added at 03:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:32 PM ----------

ok i dont know what is going on with my phone. i followed your steps here and i relocked my 3d and ran the stock unrooted 2.17 ruu thur windows and my 3d is all back to stock again but when i copy and paste your pg86img file and go thru bootloader it dont show on screen to hit vol + to apply update. i also tried using the full unrooted 2.17 zip file in the same manner and still nothing works. i dont understand what im doing wrong or if i just dont have the right pg86img.zip file to show 'apply update' any help would be great thanks!

andy
[HTC EVO 3D] G.Newton:
Various users, including myself have already posted that NO LED/VERY DIM LED is a sign of a correct brick. The BLINKING LED, as you've stated is an indication that it has not bricked.

The solid/blinking LED part is already in the OP of the original downgrade thread.

However, just to clarify, a solid, dim LED is not the only indicator of a correct brick.

I bricked on my first try, with NO LED at all. My phone was 100% unresponsive. I got scared, then after several minutes, the downgrade tool detected my phone and did its thing.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm expecting to release my new version this weekend (that's if Murphy's law doesn't kick in).

Useability fixes

New menu-driven interface

One new recovery choice ;)

No longer can get stuck in the middle of tasks requiring you to restart the computer (in theory)

~co~

I'm currently mobile. Please excuse my brevity.
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Looks like future downgraders are in for a treat soon! :beer:

Extra: have u heard about the new Aroma Recovery Filemanager yet ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=911276
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
What are you trying to upgrade to?

Also, sorry but please don't post the same question in both downgrade threads. Harder to manage.

Thanks

~co~

I'm currently mobile using Tapatalk 2. Please excuse my brevity.
[HTC EVO 3D] vinc3stylez:
Sorry, was trying to get two different point of views. I'm trying to flash this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24268786&postcount=209

Its the one provided in the instructions in post 3. my phone detects it then just nothing. Does not give me the option to upgrade. I am on mean 4.2 but my baseband is .97.10.0808 if that matters
[HTC EVO 3D] vinc3stylez:
WHOO! nvm I just figured it out. it turns out that if i name it "PG86IMG.zip" Windows would name it "PG86IMG.zip.zip" So if in order for the phone to detect it, it has to be named "PG86IMG" thanks for the reply though
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
No problem. Just trying to keep the threads as clean as possible. I remember that you had downgraded your phone. If you run one of the RUUs you will be back on HBOOT 1.5. If you're trying to update the firmware/radios, I'd suggest that you flash the update that was put together by freeza for 2.17. I linked to it a few pages ago and would link to it, but I kinda can't too easily from my phone. Sorry. It's there though. ;)

~co~

I'm currently mobile using Tapatalk 2. Please excuse my brevity.