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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
I am getting rather tired of the whiners in here that say things like "when you try using Bluetooth and wifi together you wont think the primes is that good" bla bla bla.. and so on.

Basically they try to whine, moan and also try to irritate everyone that posts to say they are happy with their prime.

Well this is for you.

[YOUTUBE]2Nfk2XvefYg[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nfk2XvefYg

P.S. You will also notice that my WIFI is working great, also works with my BT headsets no problem.

EDIT: Update! New vid in post #6
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EVCT:
I don't mean to imply that your WiFi with bluetooth active does not work but your test does not illustrate that it does.

I do have problems with WiFi with either my PS3 controller connected via bluetooth or while using my blackberry bold 9900 as a remote control via bluetooth and I have had this problem with two separate Primes. However, just like you, my tablet shows a full WiFi signal and even using the signal strength analyzer it also shows a very strong signal (-45 db - no different than with BT off). However, the problem manifests itself it you either: a) try to navigate to a website or b) run internet speed test. The result, virtually useless WiFi - speed tests for me register .1 mbps versus 6.0 mbps with BT off.

I am able to replicate this problem whether I'm directly connected to my router or whether I use my phone as a hotspot. The oddity I see is that if my Prime connects to an AP rather than my router the WiFi signal is only minimally affected.

In any case, I just thought I would weigh in to illustrate that there are those of us who actually do have an issue. If your unit works I'm happy that it does.

Overall, I love the TF201, I only have two gripes - the WiFi/BT issue, and an issue that is not necessarily related to the TF201 - Android fragmentation! I'm tired of getting the short end of the stick on Apps that seem to be available for other Tablets such as those from Acer and Motorolla. While things have been improving lately I'm quite annoyed at missing out on the latest games from Gameloft for example.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
actually we playing all the latest gameloft games as on other tabs. you just have to search ;) look n themes and apps section and you will see.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
Well, I use my Bluetooth mouse to navigate websites watch YouTube and so on with no drop in speed or disconnection problems. I could make a longer more detailed video, but I am guessing the neigh sayers will deny that too.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Erusman:
Good vid. Yes, I have no problem with using a bluetooth device. (etc. mouse or keyboard.) However. The BT issue I have and many others who b*tch about it. Is using a pair of BT headphones and trying to stream WIFI movies over Diceplayer or other media players. Audio sync over BT gets all out of wack over the vids being streamed via WIFI. BT fallout that Gary talks about. I still have the problem with my modded prime. All external antenna. However, other people are claiming they dont have this issue. Especially with newer serials. This is a key feature for me. Gary claimed it was some sort of hardware specific problem. That you would have to RMA your unit to get it fixed. I havent found a way to mod and get it to work. So I am not sure what is going on here. (Hardware wise on my old prime).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
Ok, I made another vid to show bandwidth differences.

Note: I have "clear cache" set every time I close Dolphin browser down. So What you see is real time loading of a page.

[YOUTUBE]G79PyIGnPew[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79PyIGnPew

I also use a BT headset at night when watching YT and surfing, so I don't disturb the missus. Still no problems there. I use SE headsets myself, never had issues with them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Yes, now that I watch your video, my internet speeds are blindingly fast when I use my PS3 controller via bluetooth.. I can't believe all I had to do was watch a video saying that I don't have a problem..!

What took you so long to make this great video? You should make one of you eating, that way all the starving kids in Africa will have plenty of food!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
Thanks for demonstrating the exact douchebaggery I was referring too.

Give yourself a sonic pat on the back why don't you. :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] opentoe:
Dude, you on drugs? If you want to perform a REAL test you need to do this.

1. Perform a speed test using speedtest.net app from the market. Run it about 5 times and just take the average download speed.

2. Pair a set of bluetooth headphones to your prime. Make the connection.

3. Queue up some of those MP3 files and start playing them.

4. Perform the speed tests all over again 5 times and take the average again of your download speeds.

I bet there will be a drastic speed change from step 1 and step 4. If I had something to record with I would make a video myself. So please, if you are going to test something at least test it correctly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
You're welcome, I think it was well deserved.

You called everyone who has this issue a whiner, and then came to the massively illogical conclusion that since you don't experience a problem with your prime, everyone else in the world who has this problem must be making it up.

I don't have WiFi drop out issues like a lot of people. If I make a video showing a WiFi connection staying on for 5 hours, does that mean everyone else is making up that problem up?

Come on man, use your brain.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aznmode:
In my case when I tether with my phone I don't have a bt wifi issue however when I'm connected to my home router is when i get it and my speed drops drastically and I can't stream or play games online.

Video I made a month ago at home

[YouTube]_9n5ctzyLIA[/youtube]
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EVCT:
Your results are very encouraging. Perhaps Asus can actually fix my Prime! I don't suppose you have access to a PS3 controller do you? If so, please let us know if you get similar results with the PS3 controller connected via bluetooth.

BTW, could you possibly post what your serial # starts with?

---------- Post added at 11:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:57 PM ----------

I have seen a number of individuals noting they are playing these games. I unfortunately don't have any other android devices. Do you have any suggestion for how I can download MC3?

By the way, is anyone successfully playing Real Racing 2 on the Prime?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
we have lots of people posting successfully using PS3 controller through BT on prime. even during online play.

as far as where to get those games, Google can help you out on that one ;) that's all that can be said on that. there is also RR2 working on prime also. you just have to find the versions modded to work on the Transformer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EVCT:
Thanks I'll look into how to get these games on the Prime - still I'd prefer to see better support on the official market.

As for the PS3 controller - I hope your right but some people I have seen claim success also have quite high speed connections so even after degradation it is sufficient to play games or stream something like Netflix. I only have a 7 mbps connection and with my PS3 controller connected it basically drops to .1 mbps or less making it essentially useless. Someone with a 35 mbps connections who still gets 5 mbps with a PS3 controller connected can likely still manage to stream Netflix (probably even HD) and play online.

Still, the OP's test in this thread is encouraging (albeit he's not using a PS3 controller).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GernBlanston:
Since there is no problem to whine about, I would invite you to trade my prime with yours. I'd like to have bluetooth audio that doesn't die when streaming a file from my own server over wireless, and yours looks like it fits the bill. Since everyone with this problem is whining over nothing, you should have nothing to complain about.

I'm not being entirely forthright...my prime's GPS doesn't work, either. Oh, and it doesn't have a serial number and doesn't receive OTA updates nor can it be unlocked. I'll tell you what, I'll RMA mine with your address on it, you just send me yours to tide me over during the wait. Nothing to complain about, right? I hear the serial number problem is fixed, and there's a fix right around the corner for the wifi/BT dropouts....Who knows? Maybe they'll just test it, declare it working and send you my Prime right away, without doing anything to it at all. That way, you can demonstrate your fortitude by not whining...I mean, at least 75% of the features printed on the box are working, and 75% is not bad...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Namidairo:
Anecdotal tests are questionable.

Better tests would involve hard numbers.

To explain the below, 1st test is BT On with a wiimote paired, 2nd test is BT off for 5+ seconds (I had another test that was with BT just recently off, but that had messed up results)

Router 1m away.

bin/iperf.exe -s -P 0 -i 1 -p 5001 -f k
------------------------------------------------------------
Server listening on TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
OpenSCManager failed – Access is denied. (0x5)
[272] local 192.168.1.xxx port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.xxx port 49368
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[272] 0.0- 1.0 sec 932 KBytes 7634 Kbits/sec
[272] 1.0- 2.0 sec 646 KBytes 5294 Kbits/sec
[272] 2.0- 3.0 sec 663 KBytes 5433 Kbits/sec
[272] 3.0- 4.0 sec 650 KBytes 5329 Kbits/sec
[272] 4.0- 5.0 sec 789 KBytes 6464 Kbits/sec
[272] 5.0- 6.0 sec 860 KBytes 7043 Kbits/sec
[272] 6.0- 7.0 sec 904 KBytes 7402 Kbits/sec
[272] 7.0- 8.0 sec 728 KBytes 5966 Kbits/sec
[272] 8.0- 9.0 sec 682 KBytes 5583 Kbits/sec
[272] 9.0-10.0 sec 666 KBytes 5456 Kbits/sec
[272] 0.0-10.5 sec 7936 KBytes 6216 Kbits/sec

[284] local 192.168.1.xxx port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.xxx port 49370
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[284] 0.0- 1.0 sec 2171 KBytes 17781 Kbits/sec
[284] 1.0- 2.0 sec 2468 KBytes 20214 Kbits/sec
[284] 2.0- 3.0 sec 2485 KBytes 20353 Kbits/sec
[284] 3.0- 4.0 sec 2494 KBytes 20434 Kbits/sec
[284] 4.0- 5.0 sec 2424 KBytes 19855 Kbits/sec
[284] 5.0- 6.0 sec 2554 KBytes 20921 Kbits/sec
[284] 6.0- 7.0 sec 2370 KBytes 19415 Kbits/sec
[284] 7.0- 8.0 sec 2207 KBytes 18083 Kbits/sec
[284] 8.0- 9.0 sec 2288 KBytes 18743 Kbits/sec
[284] 9.0-10.0 sec 2475 KBytes 20272 Kbits/sec
[284] 0.0-10.2 sec 24320 KBytes 19581 Kbits/sec

But hey, the O.P says I'm whinging, so stuff benchmarks, he must be right. (Sarcasm for those who didn't notice)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
OP, congratulations on having a good Prime.

Your post just shows your ignorance. My prime no8 (yes, no8) has decent WiFi and bt too, but no7 had unusable WiFi when paired with bt device.

No8

View attachment 964256

No7

View attachment 964257

Same place, same time, same bt device paired. Two primes next to each other.

But yeah, since your one works fine it means that problem doesn't exist.

Ignorance is a bliss.........

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] neo1738:
As was stated before, your test shows pretty much nothing. You have to actually be using the bluetooth for data transfer or streaming (audio) for it to affect the wifi. make a video of you transferring a 100 mb file via bt to your prime, and speedtest at the same time and get back to us.

You can say we are whiners but 1) your test doesn't even meet criteria for the problem, and 2) even if yours works it doesn't mean ours doesn't. If I didn't send my prime in 4 days ago to fix this very issue, I would have made a video myself showing how it does get affected just to make you go back into the hole you crawled out of. Good day sir....I said good day sir!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
Sorry no PS3 controller to test with. C2OK********* serial

Audio streaming over Bluetooth while using wifi works fine for me, I use the DI.FM app all the time. Again, no problem.

My problem is all the douches on here trying to bash on peoples threads that are happy with their Prime's. You don't like your Prime? Then return it and call it a day. :rolleyes:

P.S. Why the hell would you transfer files over BT when you can use wifi and Samba to do it a heck of a lot faster?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
actually data transfer through BT and wifi on and streaming works just fine. I use BT to transfer movies and pix From my atrix phone to the prime. my wifi is always on. I saw no drop in speeds on speedtest. I could still surf the web or watch a movie streaming while BT file transfer going on. I never had or even use BT headphones.

to the op, there are some primes that have the issue but also alot that don't. No matter how mAny videos you make, they will always convince themselves that everyone must suffer the same problem. they do this to make themselves feel better and blind to the proof you show them. not everyone prime is faulty. For some reason they can't seem to believe that although I've been acknowledged there are some faulty units. they are some devices with issues but even more that don't.

anyways, this is like beating a dead horse, op. might as well drop it and don't waste time trying to convince them. it'll only lead to them crossing the line and thread being closed for misconduct and people not knowing how to debate without name calling and such.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
Yes, i agree with that :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
Omg, demandarin, you seem like an intelligent person... No one is saying that all primes have the problem, but on the other hand there are a few that say that none have a problem. Go figure.

There are good, there are bad (see my pics above), but op for some reason thinks that if he hasn't got a problem-no one has.

Dem, I don't need to convince myself of anything, I had bad ones, and I had good ones.

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ramius71:
Are you ****ting me? And you still haven't RMA'd your Prime? If you are so dissatisfied with it, why do you still own one? :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PolishPoet:
It works for the way he uses it, so in his realm of things the problem is non-existant. I can watch a youtube or other video with a bluetooth head set with no issues, but yes if i run iPerf with Bluetooth turned on the throughput i much less than with it off. If wifi was weak it would be an issue.

Proud Owner of a Transformer Prime on Tapatalk
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
I never said no one has the problem, I said I don't have this problem.

What I do have a problem with is those people that do have issues are shoving it down everyone's throat and saying that ALL primes do have this problem.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
No, that's not what you said. What you said (in summary) was "I don't have this problem, therefore no one does, and if you say you do have this problem, you're a whiner."

That is why you're getting ragged on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
read my first post again. I was *****ing about people whining to everyone that is happy with their prime.

putting words into my mouth and coming up with your own version to rag on me for having a prime that works is just whack IMO
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
We don't have a problem using a BT mouse and maintaining a Wifi connection. The problem is with a A2DP profile(stereo) over BT that causes crappy wifi performance when used at the same time. You need to actually pay attention to the posts before creating a thread in the opposite direction.

---------- Post added at 04:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:14 PM ----------

Can you PLEASE create a video showing your Prime using a A2DP BT connection(actually show us the pairing) turn the volume up so we can see & hear the audio being played through A2DP and play a HD Netflix video through A2DP audio for 3 minutes.

Then create another video showing the exact same thing with Youtube HD.

Thank you.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EVCT:
QUOTE=mtechfan;24031888]Sorry no PS3 controller to test with. C2OK********* serial

Audio streaming over Bluetooth while using wifi works fine for me, I use the DI.FM app all the time. Again, no problem.

My problem is all the douches on here trying to bash on peoples threads that are happy with their Prime's. You don't like your Prime? Then return it and call it a day. :rolleyes:

P.S. Why the hell would you transfer files over BT when you can use wifi and Samba to do it a heck of a lot faster?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps they actually have managed to improve things with the new versions - my serial number starts with C10.

I know your point above is not in response to my message but not all of us can return our Prime. In my case I would have returned it had I known the BT/WiFi issue was hardware related. However, at the time my return window was still open Asus claimed it was a firmware issue so I decided to hold on to it. Had I known firmware would not address the issue I would have returned it and bought either another product or waited for a hardware revision that other users confirmed works properly (such as yourself).

While I know that an RMA is an option, many users with this issue have received their tablet back with no improvement - in one case I saw a user where Asus confirmed the problem but indicated that it was caused by the user - interesting indeed!

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that many of us are a bit annoyed with Asus for good reason. Nevertheless, while I can't speak for others I personally am happy if the issue is rectified and as soon as it looks like users who sent in their units get them back fixed I will do the same.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mtechfan:
Yes, when I have more time, don't use netflix here. But youtube can be arranged.

But then I ask, even if I show that it works for me I don't think it will stop there.

I'll probably get accused of faking it or some nonsense like that.

At least Asus is trying to rectify the problem for most users. I wonder though if the radio hardware standards are different between Europe and N America. It seems a lot of people having trouble are from N.America
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Thank you. All I want to see is you playing a HD Youtube video paired to a A2DP BT headset, with the video's audio playing through the A2DP BT device for at least 3 minutes.

I would also like to see some one else who has Netflix do what I asked.

After these 2 video's have been posted clearly showing what I have asked, then this thread will have more leverage supporting your claim. All these people claiming their Prime's work properly with Wifi & A2DP BT have yet to substantiate their claims. We might as well put this topic to rest by showing REAL proof.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scrufy:
I'm also tired of the whining on this forum. This is nothing like when I first joined xda. actually, back then it was more of a developer forum, but anyhoo.. here goes: And your not gonna like it - sorry bro.

Your post doen't show squat.

It just shows that your device actually does as intended.

Why waste the forums time with this nonsense?

why not just a post in the right thread or even a new thread saying I have Bluetooth and Wifi working.

You have a device that does xxx... so what? that means nothing other than YOUR DEVICE DOES xxx.

Your TFP works as it should. This is the same as me posting saying I turned it on and the screen came on! wow what a beautiful screen. it works.

I know, there are so many negative posts that it seems like we have to post that it works simply to defend the product but think about it, 100,000 at least sold (probably more like 500,000) and what 50 members whining?

The thing works.

Get it?

WOW, 3 pages to proove nothing other than you have a device that does xxx and we don't. Kudos bro.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
Well your test is good for you! Bravo and now all issues are solved.

I think that you should avoid any other comment, as it seems you do not respect what other people and ASUS itself are discussing.

This is a common issue, so enjoy your PRIME and avoid stupid comments that only are good for you.

You like to hear yourself, but you do not listen to others.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ramius71:
Do this item go under the term A2DP?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOGITECH-98...K_Computing_Networking_SM&hash=item27bf07edde

If it does, i can stream music through it without a drop in wifi at all. I will try again with streaming video at the same time.

I am about 30feet from the router, behind 2 walls.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GernBlanston:
That's interesting, and yes, the device obviously qualifies as A2DP. I'd be interested to know if there is a choice of compression settings on the device (likely not) and how far the device is from the Asus when you're streaming. The main problem with my device (besides the wifi slowdown) would be the complete drop of bluetooth audio to my Samsung headset about every minute or so of streaming anything. The behavior is confirmed on other bluetooth audio in the house, but nothing I use with any frequency.

I love my Prime with a wired headset, tho...watching tv on it is a joy with the fine screen quality and the hardware performance. Much better than the picture on my 24" Gheytway monitor when the main plasma is hosting whatever reality tv dross my wife is watching.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Aotw:
Looks exactly like the BT device i use, but my WiFi goes from 65Mbps to 5Mbps just by connecting it to my prime. Strange to see 1 prime working fine and the other just crap with same hardware.

Sitting 2-3m away from BT device, aprox 3-4m from my WiFi, booth in same room and no wall between.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ramius71:
No choice to do that, and the device sits about 15 feet from me.

If anything i actually got an increase inn both BT and Wifi signals.

I'll keep checking.

EDIT: I tried streaming Youtube video through ICS browser+ and sound through BT unit, and experienced no drop in either one what so ever . Tried both with and without streaming.

Reason for using browser is that Youtube app stops streaming when you start another program/app.

That said, I would surely welcome stronger wifi signal. It is not as strong as my laptop or Sensation.

I am absolutely convinced it is a SW issue and not HW. My GPS also works well outside.

I have C1.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GernBlanston:
I wonder if having a weaker receive level (your longer distance to the bluetooth device when it's transmitting) for bluetooth does something to prevent the issue....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
This is more common to the prime look at all its problems stickied and not. One would figure same hardware, unless there were cost cutting involved like cheap and unreliable parts and poor quality control.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jiber:
Hey guys, so just recent I got a job where we could use a microsoft activesync account, but my admin requires my phone have a PIN for unlocking. I was wondering if theres any mod I can download that will allow my phone to unlock after just tying my pin. Right now I have to type and click unlock, and even though it's no big deal, i'd be much easier if I could just type it and it'd go. Let me know if there's anything like this, thanks!!

ROM - MikShifted-G v2.1

Kernel - Stock
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloverdale:
Any of the Cyanogenmod ROMs allow you to do exactly what you want (it is somewhere in Cyanogenmod settings).
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jiber:
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[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloverdale:
I am not sure. I can only look at the awful design of sense for a few seconds with becoming ill.