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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] baudilus:
Touchwiz should be the least of your concerns - it's not like you're forced to use the built-in launcher on Android.

Secondly, from the article, it says "from Q2" - that "from" is very telling.

Based on what I know about software updates for phones, here's how the process goes:

1. The manufacturer finalizes the ROM build, and sends it to the carrier (in this case, AT&T).

2. The carrier loads up all the bloatware they can find. [Seriously, who PAYS for AT&T navigation?!]

3. The carrier sends the fat build to Google for performance testing.

4. Google pass / fails it based on some minimum performance specs.

Given that my LG Thrill JUST got Gingerbread released YESTERDAY because of AT&T's crapware bogging it down, and when I had a Captivate I hacked it six ways from Sunday with leaked gingerbread ROMs, I'd venture to say I'm happier with Samsung than LG.

At least Samsung leaks their ROMs. Someone there is looking out for us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] littlewierdo:
I do think Google is involved in the process...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ship It City:
heres the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RkZz2pr69DY
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] canecbr600:
I read a deal that they are thinking about making touchwiz a optional launcher, and ics launcher. Don't flip out! Also, said it before if u expect it before October, you are seriously fooling yourselves!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 00mred00:
I thought you took yours back. I have till saturday. I have upgrades available later in this year though so I think I will keep it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
If Nostradamus was still alive, he would be so jealous of you! Can you please also tell us whether the world will end in 2012 or no? :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] baudilus:
Adroid Forums is reporting on AT&T's press release about which phones are getting ICS.

The Note is on there, but of course, no dates. But considering that the HTC Vivid just got it and it was released not too much before the Note, I'd say give the Note a few months.

Of course, we're not comparing Apples to Apples in this case, since HTC and Samsung are two different companies with different delivery schedules.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] burhanistan:
True, but Samsung could very well be holding off on releasing an update for the Note until AT&T is ready with its bloatware version since AT&T is the sole US carrier.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] littlewierdo:
Notice at the 45 second mark, there is a screenshot of the homescreen. Looks identical to the current GB version.

A bit later (at the 1:30 mark) there is a screen of the settings.

Proof that all of the nice visual touches that were added to ICS are...shocker, not there. What this means is that it will look identical. Sad.

Also notice how mechanical the hand is? Of course this whole video is computer generated. Again sad. There is no way this update will run as smoothly as the video.

Well, one thing is really neat actually, the text recognition (I really dig the idea of writing a formula and having the phone figure it for me).

The additional software Samsung is bringing to the phone is nice, the Touchwiz stuff is not so nice.

While everyone says to just use a different launcher, I like the default ICS launcher that Google used. Its plain and visually pleasing to the eye. Changing the launcher changes the rest of the phone (maybe Im one of those weirdos but I like the gradient blue background Google used for anything that displays a solid black background - for example, the settings.apk).

The worst part is, it wont be out here in the states until Christmas or later (based on the current track record) so if I want this, I will be rom'ing the phone and sideloading the apps using images from other official roms.

And that is all assuming the stylus even works with truly customized roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpeg42:
Its all just fake mockup images, so who knows? Is ICS that crappy for the SGSII? I have bothered to venture over there yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Vcolassi:
I'd be all for that! I played with my friends galaxy nexus today and love the ICS on there. But it got a quadrant score of 1540. Eek!:eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] InGeNeTiCs:
This would all be moot if samsung was more diligent about releasing their source code. If we had the kernel source for the at&t galaxy note, there would be development.

Sure, we rely on at&t for the official build, but ultimately, samsung has to write the code to make it all work. Kernel source and binaries...that would give us aosp ICS. I can live with out the S-pen if that's what it takes. I'd rather have an aosp rom on a hugeass screen, you can keep your bells, and your whistles.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Dr. Evo:
If you're easily impressed by that epic fail of a phone called the "HTC One X," then enjoy to your hearts content. I used to be diehard HTC fan, up until recently. I got tired of the pretty phones but terrible hardware ... horrendous battery life ... inferior LCD screens that don't hold a candle to Super AMOLED technology ... and Sprint taking forever to release updates (Gingerbread) plus ALL of the new and good HTC phones going solely to carriers such as AT&T and Verizon. When the Note came, the writing was on the wall for both Sprint and HTC.

The One X had the potential to be an amazing phone, but HTC failed in many ways... unibody shell which translates to NO removable battery. We're not talking about the iPhone here. We're talking about HTC who has built themselves a rather notorious reputation for building devices with atrocious battery life. Then, HTC didn't put microSD card support into the One X, which means that those 16 gigs you initially get or 32 gigs, is all she wrote. No way to save content to an external source or easily transfer data from another device. It also doesn't help that the screen on the One X is ho-hum. And if I were still with Sprint, I'd be ultra pissed, since the One X is slated only for AT&T (at least initially). I'd much rather hold out for the Galaxy S III.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Maroon Mushroom:
Haha, ICS is pretty far down on the list of issues for me with this device.

-Insane shutter lag

-Poor battery life

-Awful banding issues

-Crushed and choppy blacks

-bad aspect ratio that causes app issues (see Google Music)

-Poor s-pen accuracy

-MTP is awful

-S3 SoC and not Krait (which I knew about before purchasing obviously)

I find myself using my Atrix 4g more sadly. Even when it's running a CM 7.2 build.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Thremix:
you sir have a faulty device and need to exchange it asap! Show them the blacks, I did and they gave me a new phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kiltedthrower:
I don't know anything about mtp. But I'm not having any of those issues. No shutter lag, great battery life, s-pen works great, Google music works fantastic, etc. Go play with an LG Thrill if you want to see bad battery life.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jimmer411:
No lag hear, my blacks are perfect and there is no banding. Sounds like you got a dud, something I wouldn't imaging happening to someone who works at att since you can test each phone first.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Maroon Mushroom:
There is at least some form of banding on all Galaxy Notes.

The levels of black crush appear to vary.

Google Music is broken on every single Galaxy Note. Every one.

I did not get a dud. Most of these issues were also present on my International Note. I feel naive thinking that they would have been fixed after 3 months though.

But yeah. These are issues for every Note I activate. It's just that some people are more picky than others.

When people exchange their phones and get a new one, usually it's just the placebo effect of having a new device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 00mred00:
What are the issues with google music? I use it every day
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
it is just your device
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Maroon Mushroom:
Completely broken tablet interface. Well known issue. Compare it to any other Android phone.

In portrait mode:

-sub menu in the upper left bring the menu to the middle of the screen

-cover-flow style album artwork is completely oversized

-NO KINETIC SCROLLING

-tabs like "artists" show album artwork 2 wide, rather than a proper list of artists that you can navigate through

basically. the app thinks it's a tablet. which gives it a tablet interface. which would work, if it wasn't so broken on this device.

All of these are well documented and common issues across both AT&T and international galaxy notes
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Err0xx:
Google music isn't broken. Use it in landscape. Works perfectly fine. Not a single broken thing when used in landscape. And I have kinetic scrolling...

There is very little shutter lag, no more than any other phone. The bulk of the percieved "delay" is the write time for the image. Take a pic of an object in motion or snap a photo and quickly move the camera. You don't have to hold the phone still until the viewfinder returns. This is simply write time. Obviously there is a longer delay if using a flash because the picture has to be timed with the LED, even so, no more than any other phone can. Even the mighty Galaxy Nexus "zero shutter lag" has to wait on that LED. If no flash is used, the Note is as fast as the best android devices available.

The blocky blacks are a result of the AMOLED turning the black pixels off for true blacks to make them darker when the display energy conserve is on. Go into settings and turn the display energy save off and this will help your blocky issue. I don't have a problem with it- I am an absolute picky FREAK when it comes to video, critiquing *everything*, literally, and video on the Note is the most gorgeous thing I've ever viewed on a mobile device. I have 0 "choppy" or "crushed" issues.

I am in 4G LTE Atlanta and I average 5 hour screen-on time with 20ish hours unplugged time. I have posted screenshots in several threads, search my previous posts. 5h screen on time on ANY device this powerful is phenominal, especially with 5.3" screen.

Don't think because you "work for ATT" and many of the Notes you've seen have your issues that they all share these same problems. I don't have ANY of the issues you have, nor know anyone else that does. I have 6 colleagues with notes from different states with similiar performance as mine. None with any of your listed problems.

Get a new device from a new batch at your store or order one. Something is up with the ones you've had experience with- I've used an international note as well. Had great performance from it too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 00mred00:
Hrm....it works for me just like it did on my skyrocket.....i wonder if i restored a backup and that is why it works

Not to mention it this specifically sounds more like an app issue...not an issue with the phone. A good 30% of my apps do not display properly on the note because they were not developed to recognize this reolution and screen size.. .how is that the phones fault? they display the same way on my tablets...banding fits here too...take any banding image and replace it with a higher resolution copy of that same image = no banding. ..try it...

Battery life is no different than any other dual core android i have used...the only time i had better was on the infuse, evo and thrill....and...well....you get the point

I got lucky on some of the other issues like clipping.

There may be phones with shutter lag....mine has none...the camera app however blows (animation after pic taken...honestly i think that is what people are referring to as lag)

As others have done..use a different camera apk or app from the narket. I soley use lg camera

The spen accuracy is totally fixable with root as is Mpt

As you mentioned...you knew what processoor was in this phone...that one is on you lol.

Just a little confused on why you chose to keep it if you have so many gripes....you had nothing but love for it when it released
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Err0xx:
From what I can tell, based on the days before the preorders shipped, this mushroom person got in such a frenzy over this phone that their expectations were devoid of anything other than absolute perfection. Their expectations were set so high that they only see the minor things that prevent the phone from reaching "perfect" and rarely discuss the positives of the device.

ALL of the issues listed can be fixed via calibration or software tweaks. Apparently those commenting on S-pen accuracy have never used a WACOM tablet surface before. They are all off a little to one side- its the nature of the tech. Doesn't prevent masterpieces from being drawn on this thing- some of the art made on a Note is breathtaking.

Its like my first car. Had a scratch on the passenger door about an inch long and that's all I saw when i looked at the car, despite my car being nicer than 90% of other kids my age.

Its the nature of some people to only see the shortcomings to impossible expectations and not the positives. Luckily, I grew out of that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Maroon Mushroom:
I still like this phone! This is by no means a bad phone. I'd rather have this one than many others. I just have to vent about it's shortcomings occasionally.

...Along with AT&T's... You guys have no idea...

I'll be the first to admit I set unrealistically high expectations for certain devices. I think the release cycle had a lot to do with that. We're on the brink of some awesome devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kiltedthrower:
I guess I don't know what you're talking about with Google music. I didn't notice that it looked any different on this phone than my other phones. I thought you meant the way it worked as far as playing music.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] CykoDad:
So I don't know if anybody else saw this, but AT&T just confirmed 10 more devices to get ICS. The list includes the GNote. Here's the link to the post on SlashGear:

http://www.slashgear.com/att-details-10-more-devices-to-get-android-4-0-ics-22219685/

It doesn't give a date but the fact that AT&T gives mention to it's own version of the GNote is far more than I've seen outside of rumors and speculation...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] RMXO:
I have both the AT&T Galaxy Note & the N7000. I have ICS on my N7000 & don't have the issues as you do but the black is a little bland though. MTP was fixed with UMS app from a dev.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Truaim:
You're beating a dead horse. Everyone here disagreeing with you has a note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Barry (NJ):
What's wrong with Google Music on the Note? I haven't had any issues :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] OkNewMedia:
I was running Gbread (cm7) on my note, more than a year ago. As soon as the Korean LTE version gets ICS, we will have developers here on XDA, dropping ROMs on us. I'm not worried about official updates, and never have been. In the meantime, Saurom is awesome for the Note!

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REALLY?!?! The Atrix 4g was so hamstrung with MOTOBLur, that i gave mine up before there was even a CM& build for it, because it sucked so bad! Went back to my Captivate, then Nexus S, GS2, Skyrocket, before I got my Note, and I wouldn't trade it for ANY phone I've had in the past! The Note flat out rules! Can't wait until it gets even better with some ICS!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] i_max2k2:
I had been using iPhone's for 4years (annual upgrades), and this is the first android phone I could switch to without thinking too much, in my opinion its a brillant phone, I saw the streak with some delight but it wasn't as polished as this phone, the high res screen is also a big pull for me. I'm trying a lot of different things on my phone, and I have liked it to my satisfaction. My phone went bad for a week or so and I had to go back to my 4S and honestly missed this screen, nothing comes close to this gorgeous display.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bhundt:
What amount of money do you think would inspire a Dev to bring ics to this device?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JGuinan007:
Show me the Money!!!!!

I want.... 1 MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MMMAAAWWWWHHAAAHHHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!:p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bbgt2:
Ur cheap. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] n00b1269:
At least it's confirmed its coming.

http://m.facebook.com/a/comment.php...956785"}&evt=16&gfid=AQBH7k9fuZlT2T04&refid=0

Look for the response to@Shawn Pinkerton
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] RMXO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf7uJDhVZIE
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] liljoka166:
Lol get em...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
I really dont know why these post are up....

i didnt see the words "AT&T" at all in there so my guess is that this article is for the internatinal note

which we know is getting and some already got the ICS update

and the article is from MARCH WHY did yOU BRING IT ALIVE????

(to person on top)

which renders this article

USLESS!!!!

noobs read a title "ICS comes to note" and post it here on XDA with out even reading

sigh... more clutter for the devs to clean up
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] armyboy11b:
Agreed lol....this thread is pointless ....ppl stop acting/doing noob things it just clutters it all up

Mods close this thread
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gregsarg:
sigh.........again........g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cornbread0715:
Korean Note

This is why I bought a Korean Galaxy Note 1. I travel to korea a few times a year 2. I know I would get updates in a timely manner cuz its a Korea company

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Agreed I also had the Atrix and it does not compare with this phone IMO
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] oka1:
From the Moderator

This Thread has served it purpose

..............THIS THREAD IS CLOSED...............
[Acer Iconia A500] jnktechstuff:
I need a good ICS Browser, the default one is boring I have tried:

-ICS Browser +

- Google Chrome

-Dolphin Browser

-Firefox

Post your Favorite with a screenshot would be great

Acer Iconia A500 Rooted Running Flexreaper R7 ICS 4.0.3
[Acer Iconia A500] micky387:
Since 3 days ,i'm use opera mobile . It's the best for me

Envoyé depuis mon A500 avec Tapatalk
[Acer Iconia A500] JdgM3NT4L:
I kinda like XScope. You can easily theme it. And it isn't too boring.

I would try the free version first. The Pro version is a little funky on ICS. Ran great on Honeycomb...
[Acer Iconia A500] greavous93:
Id have to +1 on xScope. Ive been using the pro version for years and whenever i wonder off and try other browsers I always come back to it.
[Acer Iconia A500] jnktechstuff:
It doesn't look optimized for tabs

Acer Iconia A500 Rooted Running Flexreaper R7 ICS 4.0.3
[Acer Iconia A500] Vintage144:
I think Opera works best
[Acer Iconia A500] poita18:
Been using Google Chrome Beta on mine, pretty impressed with it.

Have since installed it on my GS2
[Acer Iconia A500] hiarni:
Take Opera Mobile :)

Chrome Beta is nice but for me i miss the flash support...
[Acer Iconia A500] mtmerrick:
IMHO nothing works better on a tab than ICS browser+...... why didn't you like it?
[Acer Iconia A500] firetruck41:
I've been using Opera, has been the best for me, after trying stock, firefox, dolphin.
[Acer Iconia A500] glennv17:
I use Chrome beta, just for the fact that I can sync my bookmarks. I'd probably still be using stock if it worked there. I used to use Dolphin's Pad beta but once Chrome came out, it was an obvious choice.

The stock browser is pretty fast in 4.0.4 on my Galaxy Nexus, so when I get that on my A500 I'll try it out and see how it goes.
[Acer Iconia A500] NexuGsx:
Overskreen. Allows you to have a tab open above an app.
[Acer Iconia A500] mystik.:
Opera and Boat Browser ;) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.boatbrowser.free
[Acer Iconia A500] chaosking121:
+1 on this, ICS Browser + rocks! In fact, I just reviewed it on tablified.com, here's the link: http://www.tablified.com/reviews/ics-browser-simply-amazing/

I can't try Chrome because I live outside of the US, I know I can probably just find the apk somewhere, but ICS Browser+ is already enough for my needs and right now, I'd rather have flash support than not, although that might change soon...

Used to use Dolphin but it felt really clunky to me, and well, the stock browser on both HC and ICS never really cut it for me.
[Acer Iconia A500] Scribblle:
i too have tried many like FF, Google Chrome, Dolphine but ICS+ is the best and the customize options are great
[Acer Iconia A500] soks3d:
browser

I think Boat browser is the best for me so far.
[Acer Iconia A500] junior261:
I liked Dolphin Tablet but it started to crash and it didn't seem as if they were releasing updates for it much. I went to Chrome. It was ok. I am now using Dolphin HD. Its amazing and I have no problems so far. Very stable. It also has soo many plugins. I suggest Dolphin HD.
[Acer Iconia A500] soks3d:
boat browser update

Just did a boat browser update yesterday and it is now very laggy, wish I could un update the update.
[Acer Iconia A500] Anthony820:
I had trouble with the default browser downloading files. Sometimes it would just hang, other times I'd get blank files. And it just seemed sluggish to me. This was, admittedly, while running a stock Acer rom, though.

I played around with Chrome when it hit, but I ran into some problems with SwiftKey, and even now on a custom ROM, it gives me blank white pages with no content far to often to not annoy me.

I also kicked around Dolphin some. It just never satisfied me.

I finally happened by Aurora - Firefox's alpha channel - and I am more than pleased with it. It's yet to crash on me, it has the must-have addons - like AdBlock - available, as well as UserAgent changers - as I prefer desktop sites only. It's fast, and it's been optimized for a tablet layout. I've been running it exclusively since discovering it and I haven't had a single moment where I debated going back to Browser.
[Acer Iconia A500] mectec:
Hi I have been using the Maxthon HD browser with the RE-FLEXxx Rom and find it works better for me than the others (I tried all of them)
[Acer Iconia A500] Moustapha Aly:
Firefox is the best of (opera-chrome-device's browser-dolphin) as tested them all :)
[Acer Iconia A500] djyoshii:
Just switched to Firefox tonight. I found Chrome keeps freezing (tabs stop loading, and previously loaded tabs go blank) after about 1min of usage.

This was on ReliX rev5 and is still happening on Reflex ShellSHOCK.

Was only using Chrome in the first place as I could sync all my bookmarks, but I've now imported & synced them all with FF so we'll see how this goes.
[Acer Iconia A500] JeanBubu:
boat browser

I've Been using boat browser for the past few weeks and i think it's the Best so far.tried them all before...
[Acer Iconia A500] twistedknickers:
Chrome on aokp jb

Just got a stability update and it's now supporting flash.

All seams good so far. And it's quick to.
[Acer Iconia A500] george64g:
Browsers I use

I have Boat Browser and I still loving the Chrome...I just switch depending what I'am working on. :highfive::good:
[Acer Iconia A500] parker09:
Used to use Opera, but switched to Dolphin on basically all my phones.
[Acer Iconia A500] metalmenance:
fro me ics+ works just fine and syncs bookmarks with my laptop chrome browser just great
[Acer Iconia A500] spexwood:
I use both ICS Browser+ and Opera Mobile. ICS+ is my favorite, but works and looks like the default browser except with far more options. However, ICS+ tends to have some issues with certain sites (especially the site I use to check my work schedule), so sometimes I use Opera Mobile.

I'm also waiting for Firefox to be perfected, but it too has issues wjth some sites (again, my schedule sjte especially).