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[Android General] Fire n mage:
The arguments all android fanatics look for are here :P. Great stuff honestly, makes me think about the flexiblity of the OS I'm using. You go past the superfical "android is more customizable and has more choices" and actually have evidence. People love their phones in different ways. Me I love rooting/flashing and having options open, some people just love having the same old OS 4x5 grid all day long, and it's no big really :). My dad being a P.A. in surgery got an iphone for it's use of book apps for the many diseases and conditions out there tha plague us, so I admit android does lack in some areas :P
[Android General] MA7MOD_GSM:
It is interesting..
[Android General] thatdefault:
What is the name of the anti theft app for Android in part 4?
[Android General] 85gallon:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25078674&postcount=218
[Android General] thatdefault:
Thanks :)
[Android General] 85gallon:
Read up a few posts where i got lambasted for saying thanks when there is a button to say thanks. Lol
[Android General] thatdefault:
There is no thanks button and my internet connection is very slow. 5 minutes to open the last page :D My internet connection randomly switches to EDGE after 6 pm.
[Android General] adelmundo:
Cerberus
[Android General] DangKid:
Already thanked you when you released part 1 but will take the time to thank you again. These are quality videos, can't wait for the next video.

Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G
[Android General] mistermentality:
There is a thanks button. If you use tapatalk to browse forums its right there when you click on a post and it is there in the web interface too but I rarely use website so not sure where it is.

Dave
[Android General] alex2792:
Hey can you show Infinity Blade running on your Android for part 5?

Thanks!
[Android General] Guru Zeb:
Why would he want to ................. in fact why would anyone want to .... http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/infinity-blade/id387428400?mt=8#

Scroll down to the comments ........... ROFLMFAO :rolleyes:

Even the positive one doesn't make a great case for this game

Alex ... bro is that the best you can do??

I admit this thread has been a ridiculous and somewhat shallow android fanboy convention ( i point that out earlier in the thread)

But surely you can bring better guns to bear, to defend iOS than a cheesy fantasy game that has massive amounts of dissatisfaction from iOS users ....... wasn't this exactly the kind of thing iphone+iOS was meant to rule the world with due its lack of "OS fragmentation" and "unified hardware platform" ??.

Don't disappear this time bro ......... last time i dropped this url on you after you mentioned this game you stopped posting to the thread :D

Laters Gators
[Android General] masondoctorjt:
Haha can you show it on the iPhone without it crashing:)
[Android General] apollooff320:
your post is so full of fail. I see the game has 4.5 out of 5 stars and a 5 out of 5 for the current version. The user comments aren't even updated. I'm looking at the reviews right now and don't even see anything about the game crashing. For a game that was last updated Feb 3 and to have that rating is nothing to laugh about. I can actually show it not crashing.
[Android General] mcord11758:
If playing infinity blade is what drives your purchase of a device, more power to you. The videos in the op are a list of valid points of why android is a better choice for the op, for phones.
[Android General] Wicked4u2c:
Bump for Part 5 and final episode, I appreciate all of the positive feedback you guys gave and was the reason why I decided to finish the series. Thanks again to XDA community and the awesome (most of them) members that it has. :D Please share these videos with everyone!
[Android General] xnostra:
thanks for the video the video is really great unlike other that is boring,

im sharing this to all my friends and relatives because some of them is really an apple product fans
[Android General] mcord11758:
Thanks, another nice video.

You can slide the cursor on ios when typing by long pressing and you get the magnifying view. It is no where near as easy as Android but it does exist

You forgot the part of the video that displays the awesomeness of infinity blade on ios. Apparently some fellows are really excited by it.
[Android General] iSxy:
Dafuq?? U look Sexy!..

No homo pl0x..
[Android General] dongjl:
Steve Jobs is looking down on you in dismay ;)

All android needs now is to grow and outpace iOS market (in terms of quality / sales of apps, not fart app collections)!

Currently developing Android apps -- seems everything is in place for its marketplace to surpass Apple's
[Android General] phillibl:
Great series
[Android General] riz1234:
Very nice videos man!

I've only watched two so far but already impressed. A majority of reviews show only the surface. You've told about the experience you had with devices after living with them. I can fully relate to that.

Don't know what you've in store in next three parts. Hopefully there is a large chunk on iTunes and the movie formats. I feel very strongly about that.

Great work!
[Android General] linye:
I learned a lot about ios from those videos.

Sent from my SGH-T989
[Android General] DangKid:
Enjoyed this since the beginning. I laughed when i saw a torrent app on your taskbar. And here's hoping for another video, just because your said see you next time haha.

Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G
[Android General] Stevemotto:
Cheers man, will follow you up on your next video
[Android General] blackaholic:
Great video, I got many things about iOS. Thanks mate.
[Android General] z33dev33l:
Only an android fan could call this a fair comparison.
[Android General] zanderman112:
I don't agree, but i'd like to know, how is it not fair?

I'm sure he'd like to know

~E.R.A.
[Android General] z33dev33l:
Focuses on android's strong points almost completely ignoring it's faults and attacking iOS's.
[Android General] zanderman112:
Maybe so, but I disagree about the "attacking iOS's." For the things he compared, android was better, and that's truth. :)

But again, if I may ask, what are Android's faults in your opinion that iOS does better that he may have skipped in his videos?

(I'm honestly inquiring. I'm trying to let my mom decide on whether to get an iPhone or Android phone for herself, and I'm sure she'd like to see iOS's strengths as well as Android's strengths that are in the videos)
[Android General] z33dev33l:
Android is hugely unstable in comparison, dual or quad core it still lags, the security is almost non-existent and it's the only OS that needs it, half the time out are only half done, missing basic features, and iOS has already achieved the speed and fluidity android is constantly modified for out of the box.
[Android General] Dorilife:
What basic features are you reffering to?

I have 3 iOS devices and I see nothing that my Android devices lack in basic features.

I do agree that android is constantly modified and they "Google" need to focus more on that but I think the cause of this is the fact that there are so many devices it runs on..

Again and again it comes down to user preference.

Or just have them all:D

I own

3 Android devices

3 iOS devices

1 windows phone
[Android General] mistermentality:
Seriously?

Mine lags only when low on ram, androids security is fine and as it even warns you what apps can access before you install them I have to ask what is it about androids security you think is bad and what basic features you say are missing?

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] z33dev33l:
I think vnvman said it best in that you grow accustomed to the lag to the point that it almost doesn't exist to you. I power on a gs2bnib or with a fresh rom on it and it's a repeated curbstomp after growing accustomed to wp7.
[Android General] zanderman112:
I'm going to try to respond to all of these points :)

I disagree about the lagging, no matter the core count. I myself have an Epic 4G, which has a 512mb ram 1ghz Hummingbird cpu, underclocked to 800 mhz, running CM9 and I have no lag. The *only* lag I ever get(that isn't caused by some noobs poorly coded app) is during the first 20ish seconds after boot up because of media scanning(my sd card is almost full lol).

Security is definitely there. From the Lockscreen(pattern, pin, password), to encrypting your entire device. And there are apps that can "lock" your other apps with a pin as well. And saying android is "the only os that needs security" is silly. Every OS needs security.

I'm not sure what you mean by "missing basic features(please, feel free to explain to me what basic features are missing,)" but I assure you, I could easily use my phone without downloading *any* apps from the market.

And the "iOS has already achieved the speed and fluidity android is constantly modified for out of the box" statement is absolutely wrong. Stock ICS is a very smooth experience. That statement is more based on comparisons of iOS 3 vs Froyo.

So, how you can call android "hugely unstable" is definitely something I'd like to hear, but I'm just saying that from my experiences with iOS 5, its confusing, clunky, I'll even say unbearable.

:) I like having civil conversations, where both sides are willing to listen, so I thank you for sharing with me :)
[Android General] mistermentality:
I've had non android users use my phone and love it, one had heard android was slow so wanted to see how slow and said he couldn't see the problem.

You can say its just us android users getting used to lag but if that is the case what about ios users who have switched to android and love it?

Why is it if an android user says its not lagging some people say its just we have got used to it? No offence but the ui of a modern decent android really isn't the lag fest some seem to claim it is.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] z33dev33l:
In terms of hardware acceleration, the gs2 is still as good as it gets and that's still slow when compared to wp7 or iOS. Brand new out of the box gs2 lagged too much for me, same when I flashed the cleanest ics rom on it. It's just an ill-optimized OS.
[Android General] Dorilife:
I do agree on WP7 being smoother than Android, smoother to me than iOS also.

Don't get me wrong..I prefer Android but I admit that out of the box..WP7 is a better OS than both Android and iOS.
[Android General] orb3000:
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Please stay on topic and keep respect with members
[Android General] vetvito:
Out of the box? Thats highly subjective.

For example when I had my HD7, when I first got it, out of the box was just horrible. I had to unlock it just to change search providers and get more theme colors, ringtones etc...
[Android General] masondoctorjt:
Thus is funny. When I first used android I felt no lag. It was only once I got used to it that I ever thought I noticed lag, but seriously, how can you base the quality of an os on how many frames per second it can scroll homescreens? That is silly. The true quality of an os, is all the other things it can do, like displaying live widgets and wallpaper all while keeping you're apps ruining in the background while scrolling the screens. Or playing a flash video when one appears. I can deal with a millisecond of so called lag when I'm streaming music from my phone to my stereo via WiFi while surfing the internet, playing draw something, and getting directions to somewhere in Google maps, all while posting on XDA:)
[Android General] UndisputedGuy:
IPad is the best tablet? What about the Asus transformer 300/prime? That's what I'm planning to buy....

Or do people think the Dell inspiron duo is better?
[Android General] Tom-Helge:
I can agree that iOS can feel smoother on some few thing over Android, but Samsung Galaxy S II runs circles around the iPhone 4S when it comes to pure power and on how fast it is to load things and that.

WP7 is also silky smooth, but that doesn't help when the WP7 OS isn't even near by a freaking 10000 mile radius to the functionality and the freedom Android have.

I'll rather have some micro stuttering some few times here and there on Android rather than being locked into a brutal failure jail where Apple controls you and your phone TOTALLY.

I see the potentional in WP8, but it's not quite yet there yet where Android is now.

Yes, i runs an Android 4.0.4 AOKP ROM on my Galaxy Note now as you can see in my signature. And nothing beats it when it comes to what that device can do and do with the S-Pen with such a ROM.

So the freedom to decide 100% over your own device and to have the good and handy functionality today on a smartphone like a Samsung Galaxy S II and Galaxy Note usually is way more important to have over an OS that just runs 3% smoother than Android.

EDIT: And don't even talk about that an iPhone 4 / 4S is sooooooo good for gaming. Because who in the freaking name of jesus wants to sit on a tiny small screen and do gaming?

That's like saying gaming on a 15-inch PC screen is cool and funny.
[Android General] apollooff320:
well ppl are buying ipods and iphones for gaming so it has to be good. Look at all the games IOS has compared to Android. Android can't even touch the amount of games and quality of the games IOS has.
[Android General] zanderman112:
I still disagree. But I've come to the point where I'd like to agree to disagree with ya :-)

All in all. No OS out there is perfect for everybody. Android if full of choice, iOS is for the direct support/maintenance, and WP7....is for people who like Microsoft :-) no no jkjk. Don't take that last part seriously lol.

~E.R.A.
[Android General] z33dev33l:
Who wants to game on a 4.3 inch screen? It's truly not much better but I enjoy both. Android has nothing I envy aside from the ability to torrent, iOS has games. Fortunately, Nokia is helping there.
[Android General] Tom-Helge:
But try gaming on a 5.3 inch screen instead then. The experience you get by playing games on a Galaxy Note is like a dream has come true compared to what you get from an iPhone.

0.8 more inches from iPhone 4S to Galaxy S II is something you WILL see a BIG difference on.
[Android General] nedved07:
nice vid

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[Android General] z33dev33l:
played on both, iPhone is better. Slightly bigger size doesn't compensate for lesser quality.
[Android General] vetvito:
You guys are feeding a known troll, regardless of what you say, he will say the opposite.

He says Nokia is helping in the gaming department but he doesnt mention that those are very old games and still will be played on a 4.3 inch screen, but then he says the iphone is better, although gaming on a 4.3 is bad he rather play on a 3.5.

Don't feed the guy, he will just say the exact opposite.
[Android General] z33dev33l:
It's a cell phone, I don't expect a fully fleshed out MMO. Something like Infinity Blade would be nice, but most other good apps and games are EA which Nokia struck a deal with. As a whole, I game on the 3.7 inch screen of the 800 more than my daily driver the 900, it's easier to hold for games like dodonpachi max and the curved glass just feels better. The size of the screen is almost invalid when compared to the quality of the game. I never said gaming on a 3.5 was better, just that it's not a definitive enough difference to sell over game quality.
[Android General] telep:
I know that iOS and Android fanboys are sometimes irational, but god damn WP fanboys are delusional most of the time.
[Android General] dissizitt:
"Apples and Oranges"

To each of its own. I've been on ios for awhile but recently switched to android and so far so good...I love how you can customize every way possible. I have to says IOS is very friendly compared to Android IMO
[Android General] :
You re the best man keep goinng. i watched all your videos ther awesome!!!
[Android General] chaki-:
I for example don't play heavy games. I like bowling, chess, angry birds etc. And i am tellin ya, it is an amazing pleasure to play them on 4,7 inch screen! You say quality....what quality on 3,5 inch man? If you wanna quality go and hit it hard on 40 inch plasma :D

It is not about the gaming. It is the user expirience. If i can make whatever i want with it, it's awsome. Lag is hardly to see on the device what so ever.

But hey, that's your choice and if you are happy that's fine. Don't troll arround and pull the leg of the lion hahahahahaha :D:D:D
[Android General] Tom-Helge:
Lesser quality like what?

The graphics does looks about the same on both iOS and Android devices.
[Android General] z33dev33l:
Overall games, in number and quality, are better on android. This is due to the better gpu used in the iPhones. Very few of today's android phones even compete with the 4 in terms of gpu and none properly utilize it.
[Android General] Tom-Helge:
So what would you choose between those 2 choices.

1. A computer with a 15 inch PC screen with 1280x768 in resolution that runs Battlefield 3 with a stable 100 fps on Ultra graphic settings.

2. A computer with a 23-24 inch PC screen and 1920x1080 in resolution that runs Battlefield 3 with a stable 80 fps on Ultra graphic settings.

I would not even think about it, i would choose the 2nd option instantly.

When you play a game like Battlefield 3, i think everyone would sacrifice some few fps (that is so little that you wouldn't even notice the lower fps over the 1st choice) for a bigger screen and screen resolution.

The experience is just crazy. And i'm talking with experience, because i went from a 20 inch PC widescreen LCD monitor with 1680x1050 in resolution to a 32 inch LED-TV with Full HD resolution that is 1920x1080.

Even when the resolution wasn't that much more even by going 12 inches up, then the gaming experience went from okish on the 20 inch LCD screen to insanly good on the LED-TV.

So no matter what, most peoples will find a bigger screen with bigger resolution much better to play on.
[Android General] vetvito:
^ Don't try and rationalize with the guy, it won't work.

He spreading fud, he isn't mentioning how Tegra games are hands down better than the iOS counterparts. Tegra games have better graphics and animations than the IOS versions.
[Android General] EmerikL:
Dude, this is an awesome series. Bravo.
[Android General] mcord11758:
All this talk about video games, and and all I see is one game ever mentioned in (infinity blade)

Own both, can care less about gaming, android is better at everything else imo.

Flyer
[Android General] z33dev33l:
You're not getting better resolution though. I can't really have an opinion on the computer question as the most computer gaming I've done is emulate ff5.
[Android General] noizy1234:
What's funny Is before I always thought iOS was better than android.. But then I got my Nexus S 4G and over time I realized how dumb I was. Especially now with ICS android is sooo much better at almost everything...
[Android General] AlwaysDroid:
^^Me to. I wanted an iPhone SUPER bad, but my mother did not want to pay for the data plan. Then I got my android, and I can't even go back to iOS. My iPod has been retired and I can't even stand to use my friends iPhone anymore. Everything just takes so many more steps to accomplish.
[Android General] alamoudi.moh:
nice, thanks will be shared soon ^_^
[Android General] noizy1234:
+1 to this.. I too wanted the iPhone but my mom could not afford it so I "settled" for the ns4g and it's the BEST thing that could've happened to me.
[Android General] mistermentality:
You do realise that the majority of games on ios and android don't max out the gpu so as long as gpu is good its not as important a factor as resolution etc?

I doubt there are any ios games that a high end android couldn't handle just as well so while iphone has great gpu it doesn't mean its rivals must be unable to play games equally successfully.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] z33dev33l:
Serious question then, what hardware shortcoming made dungeon defenders so unstable on my gs2 and my mom's note?
[Android General] Insidious:
Showed this to all my iOS using friends, and they pretty much had nothing to say in return. My one friends logic was "all Android phones lag, iPhones never do." Then I proceeded to show him how my phone barely ever lags. ;) Android FTW.
[Android General] mistermentality:
I didn't say android had hardware shortcomings, you did regarding gpu.

I've never played the game you mention but as a quick google search found some iphone 4 users saying it had very poor framerates I would guess its not unique to android and in your case maybe there were apps eating up cpu time or the app may have had a bug as many of the reports from ios and android users having issues seem very similar.

I've read reviews by people with older android phones than S2 saying it was fine so clearly android can handle it and therefore I can't give you an answer as to why yours did not.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] dryft4eva:
I just watched all 5 vids the other day. I think that the content of your vids were very well thought out. Great job! I feel more proud of my android phone now. :)
[Android General] z33dev33l:
Hmm, I'd even reset my phone before playing it and had a clean ICS rom to kill all of the unnecessary tasks on start-up. I just figured it was a gpu issue.
[Android General] zanderman112:
That game is *buggy* I got it once, uninstalled 5 minutes later. Besides, there are better games out there :)

~E.R.A.
[Android General] scoderx0e:
Thanks i had been looking around for such a comparison for quite a long...
[Android General] vetvito:
Equally buggy on both OSs. IOS and Android.

If GPU couldn't handle it, then it wouldn't show up in the market.
[Android General] MissionImprobable:
"Originally Posted by z33dev33l

Android is hugely unstable in comparison, dual or quad core it still lags, the security is almost non-existent and it's the only OS that needs it, half the time out are only half done, missing basic features, and iOS has already achieved the speed and fluidity android is constantly modified for out of the box."

I have you on my iggy list, but I happened to see someone else quote this drivel that you posted. You seriously are delusional.

1) As recently reported iOS has more app force closes than android. If you want to see other issues iOS has feel free to check out Apples help forums because I see users posting with the same problems that some Android users have.

2) These videos shatter everything you say about iOS having more functionality than Android, period.

3) Security: as the final video shows, your iPhone can be spoofed into thinking it's viewing an Apple website when it is in fact not, leaving you open to giving up personal information and credit card info. That's horrid.

I've seen plenty of videos everytime an iOS update comes out with people figuring out ways to bypass iOS's pin lock.

If someone steals my Android I have the option to capture pictures from the phone, record audio from the phone, gps locate the phone, pin lock the phone, sound an alert, site a custom message on the lock screen, forward all messages, call logs, and phone calls if another sim is placed in the phone, lock the sim so replacements won't work, set my Anti-theft as admin so that it can't be uninstalled, lock the phone so that it can't be factory reset, and hard lock the phone so that it cannot be wiped and reset in bootloader. Hit me back when iOS gains all this functionality, most of which can be achieved WITHOUT root.

Oh, I can also encrypt all data on the phone or SD.

It must be interesting living in your own little world the way you do. I understand that you're a Windows and iOS fanboy, and I can admit that both have strengths, but you're so blind to reality it is astounding.