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[Android General] Wicked4u2c:
Yes, part 6 will explain why. In a nutshell, the apps are not as polished as they are in iOS. It's funny because it's actually reverse, the iPad runs applications much better than any Android tablet. I know some of you will disagree with me, but I can show you side by side comparison of most popular apps on iPad compared to say a Transformer Prime and the iPad just has a much nicer experience.

It sucks because I really wanted to have an Android tablet, specially the Transformer with Keyboard. I think that tablet is awesome, but the lack of great apps, along with poor optimization is what keeps me with Apple. I'm sure that will change, but Android still has a ways to go to actually give the iPad a run for it's money.
[Android General] apollooff320:
lolz I was going to actually make that same type of video when I get my Transformer back from repair. I'll let you do it and save me the time. But what you are saying about the Tablets goes for Android phones and the iphone also. Some apps to point out The Weather Channel, Big Oven, USA Today, Ebay, Amazon, and for NBA fans NBA Gametime but on ipad it's NBA Courtside.
[Android General] vetvito:
Yeah, we need a lot more tablet apps. I can agree the ipad is better.
[Android General] c5satellite2:
I have a transformer prime for 3+ months now, and it is definitely a monster. I don't think that the "new" ipad is better, and yes I have used it, just has a higher res screen(completely unnecessary on a 10" device) and a "new" old CPU that overheats. Overheating will be addressed by slowing down the CPU with a firmware "fix".

TFPRIME is a beast! GPS isn't great, works ok, WiFi range is fair to good. WiFi is acceptable, GPS needs improvements. But these complaints are not limited to just the Prime. GPS on both phones and tablets have needed improvement on many models, and usually improve with better software. How many forums have a "improve GPS" thread, many.

The Prime is a joy, love it more every day, and was the fastest android device out there until just about now with the One X S4 just making its debut. BTW the S4 Krait CPU blows away the apple(really made by Samsung) CPU.

PS I love the vid series so far! Thanks for educating the masses with the truth. Watch out, I hear crapple put a price on your head after seeing the new vid!:D:p Keep up the good fight!:thumbup:
[Android General] tweakradje:
Nice vids. Although at few points not relevant due to personal taste. But on the whole

you are right from the user experience perspective and ease of use :)

About iphone and android phone:

A gstar jeans is worse quality (wears down faster) than cheaper unbranded jeans.

But still people pay loads of money for branded clothing. We cannot change that.

It is called marketing or brainwashing.

Edit: don't forget the industry standards as USB Mass Storage Device. I can hook up my android phone to any

hifi system with USB and it will play my mp3's from the sdcard (yes it has 32 Gb) without any problem. Even my car stereo.

Cheers
[Android General] mistermentality:
Well apart from the fact you have to switch between third party apps to use flash at all on ios, how about this review that tested a few sites on various ios apps and found none worked perfectly and no app supported all sites smoothly or usably?

http://ipad.appstorm.net/how-to/utilities/how-to-get-flash-on-the-ipad/

Android has native flash support and plays all flash properly without problem on my phone, this is not possible on ios. That was the only point I was making.

Dave
[Android General] apollooff320:
Finding old articles sure doesn't help you. All these apps get updated constantly to fix problems. The point is the ipad can play flash and flash is dead. Flash is not a pro anymore for Android. What's funny is you say ppl have to switch between 3rd partys to use flash. Nothing wrong with not using the default web browser on your device. Hell you probably don't even use the default web browser on your Android device. I sure don't I use Dolphin on my Transformer and Photon and Dolphin on my ipad. I thought Android only users was all about choice. I guess when it fits their agenda.
[Android General] vetvito:
^ flash isn't dead until the internet is no longer using it. Which will be a few years.
[Android General] samsizzle:
Android is hacker happy
[Android General] mcord11758:
You are using 3rd party apps to run a service that is available stock on other platforms for years, and it does not run nearly as well. Flash will be dead when most of the internet no longer uses it
[Android General] thebobp:
Thankfully, that's not an android thing, but a manufacturer thing. Don't like it.. buy from another manufacturer. That's the great thing about having choices.
[Android General] huy_lonewolf:
This is so awesome!!!
[Android General] hassaan123:
This comparison video is very good! You must complete what you have started
[Android General] mistermentality:
First off its not that old an article though I feel you would use same argument irrespective of its age.

Second...how are you playing flash with ios default browser?

And third...yes I do use androids default browser.

Your twisting my point here which is not about choice but that ios itself does not support flash and that even third party apps won't allow 100% compatability whereas that's not an issue with android so in the case of flash ios is worse not better.

Is it that hard to just say ok ios doesn't natively support flash but by using a few apps you can use most flash sites?

And flash is not dead. Lots of sites use it and adobe still support the flash players so no its not dead.

Dave
[Android General] jj350z:
Awesome sharing videos you got here Wicked4u2c!! Subscribing to your videos.

I love Steve Jobs, but I just don't like iOS, indeed it got too many restriction with it, which Apple loves to do all the while, but I'm kinda sick of those hardcore fans that keep claiming they own the best phone on the planet and Egoistic comes in and start looking down on others that don't use iPhone.

Many are just followers, they might not even truly understand how to use their own iOS phone.
[Android General] apollooff320:
lol look at all the Android only fanboys getting pissed off because iOS users can download another browser that has flash, and complain that I'm using a 3rd party app. Damn hypocrites have your phones loaded with 3rd party apps and custom roms just to do things. I don't use a few apps to visit flash I use one app and it supports every site I throw at it. Adobe is not gonna support mobile flash anymore how hard is it for you understand "mobile flash is dead". Man before getting my own ios device i use to think Apple fanboys were bad but Android fanboys are even worst. You fanboys are gonna go ape **** when he releases part 6 and then he'll just how bad you guys are.
[Android General] mistermentality:
Like you have gone ape?

So I'm an android fanboy even though I freely admit ios is a good os? Hmmm, ok. But you aren't?

But the point was, which you keep ignoring, that flash is not fully supported by ios even with third party apps.

As for me being bad well you seem to be the only one being "bad" as you are more fanboy than I as you can't see any good in android while I can see good in ios so, pot calling the kettle black perhaps?

Oh and I can do all I want without a custom rom but your free to think we all use custom roms to do things just as I'm free to think that without jailbreaking the iphone is a good but restrictive device.

One thing though...why do you call me a hypocrite? I never said you can't use third party apps to get flash I did however say its not natively supported so if you really want to start calling people names get your facts straight before doing so please.

Dave
[Android General] apollooff320:
Saying ios is good doesnt mean crap when i see you in every comparison thread trying to bash it. I'm not ignoring your point because I never said flash was fully supported but the app I use runs every flash site I throw at it. It's you that are trying to put words in my mouth. I don't know what you are talking about when you say I see no good in Android when I never said anything bad about it. Which unlike you I use both Android and iOS and see the pros and cons of both. I'm far from a fanboy you can even find me on macrumors (user name Apollo 13)defending Android just like I'll defend iOS on here. Both sides like to make crap up about the other platform without even using it.
[Android General] mcord11758:
you spend an awful amount of time on an android centric forum.... must be pretty bored with your apple products
[Android General] apollooff320:
Ugh...did u not read I own a android devices and have owned plenty of Android phones. So does that mean I was bored of my Android devices since I joined a apple forum before owning one?
[Android General] mcord11758:
ugh, yes you have a transformer, read that, move on. why spam every thread of this nature and repeat yourself? we get it, you are so happy with your apple devices that you manage to find the time to post constantly on every thread in XDA that dares express the opinion that android is better. The videos in the op of this thread show valid reasons why one person may like android better. you do not like the crappy looking apps and appreciate the finish look of ios. It suits you. I guess I am lost because I own an iphone and hate ios but I have never felt the need to go to an apple forum to express my love of android. never crossed my mind as a logical thing to do.

good day sir.....
[Android General] mistermentality:
I'm sorry but I have recommended ios to people in threads here at xda and elsewhere as well as defending it on occasion so I must be an odd fanboy, as for ios bashing well if mentioning genuine issues regarding ios is bashing it then maybe you have a narrower view of bashing than I.

However if I have said something untrue about ios and you correct me on it I will of course apologise and not repeat something I know to be incorrect but as regards flash it is true that it is not possible without third party apps and that even then not all flash is supported.

For example if you use iswifter you will note on their site the recent addition of support for some well known flash games which shows previous to that obviously they for example did not work.

What I find interesting is that rather than discuss what's wrong in the videos you simply criticise those discussing it saying we are hypocrites and fanboys, even in your youtube comment you did not critique the content but rather accused the poster of buying apple devices just for his reviews and then returning them.

Yet you will gladly accept, before he even posts it, that his ipad review will be good because you know he likes the ipad and so in that video ios will fare better.

It seems you only like the videos where ios is seen as better. If you feel the videos are wrong isn't it better to critique the content rather than go on youtube and criticise the poster?

Dave
[Android General] mistermentality:
To be fair he has at least one android product so he may simply be here to counter some of the at times wildly innacurate apple bashing that some of us android fans do (I would hope I'm not an inaccurate apple basher but I am an android fan).

Dave
[Android General] Paulenski:
Like the videos man, keep it up, I've been the same way with Android and Apple. I like both but Android has always had the edge, with customization, mods and freedom.
[Android General] apollooff320:
I don't post in every thread in fact I only posted in two threads that had anything to do with Apple for your information and corrected misinformation. Also I will not move on because you said so. I will continue to post and correct misinformation and give my opinion. I know you rather every android vs iOS thread to be a android only party circle but it won't happen.
[Android General] thebobp:
Strange, I haven't been seeing any "correction of misinformation".

Only pure, unadultered opinion.
[Android General] mistermentality:
He did correct the belief of some that ios does not support flash.

Dave
[Android General] ooofest:
Fun videos thus far - I like your straightforward presentation style and clear explanations of what you see as contrasts, etc. Your enthusiasm helps, too. It parallels many of the reasons I prefer Android over iOS.

There's no equivalent for Chrome-to-phone on iOS?

- ooofest
[Android General] mcord11758:
Thank you for your input
[Android General] Infekxion:
Your delivery methods and your focus points are excellent. Android is by far more user friendly with everyday tasks. Anyone who scrutinized you for putting the G-Nex up against I4S needs to understand that the G-Nex or any other Nexus is pure Android just like I4S is pure iOS.(I know, lots of repetition) Keep the videos coming bro!
[Android General] charmthief88:
Jailbreaking is called a break out for a reason

Also often overlooked in the iOS vs Android debate, Rooting or stock is legal as it is open sourced. Jailbreaking means you've violated the phone and agreement you've bought from Apple, it is why Apple Inc keeps trying to counter your JB with every iOS updates.
[Android General] charmthief88:
A fair question, the results insightful

Of course they have, do a youtube search. You find a

few

videos like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzXOv5Bji20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4wBvriIvfA

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWWjSt9ZK9E

and the official promotional iOS 5 video. I was surprised how little evidence is actually shown by iOS fan base, where Android fans backs up their claims with visual examples much like the two video parts shown here.

Since a member mentioned Comparing the prime against the iPad3, it is generally held as king. Which I get for similar reasons I see for the Droid Razr Maxx being held in high esteem. Excellent display, big battery on a existing and proven platform.

However, it never hurts to show rivals to the 'king' so here's a good one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YM88uL5LB3E

BTW Wicked thanks again for providing these videos.
[Android General] thebobp:
Fair enough, maybe a couple of pages ago. It's been pretty much all ranting since then.
[Android General] Prawesome:
Excellent video :D Usually,all the videos we can find on the net are just about some stupid fanboys who doesnt know anything ranting about their phone,but this one is completely different..You list out the points,you describe them and you smack it on their faces :D Awesome video,again...
[Android General] Guru Zeb:
Originally Posted by mistermentality View Post

He did correct the belief of some that ios does not support flash.

Dave

ROFLMFAO ......... how you can dare have the front to aim that criticism at the guy when 90% of the Android fanboy posts in this thread fall directly into the same category :rolleyes:

This is why i lurk so much on tech forums the concept of unbiased balanced argument is completely alien it too many on forums.

(*DISCLAIMER this post does not mean i am an Apple fanboy or any kind of supported of that company DISCLAIMER*)
[Android General] defyassin:
that video is great

all of wath it says it pure truth

in your face iphone
[Android General] mistermentality:
That's incorrect as both are legal but both invalidate any warranty.

Dave
[Android General] mistermentality:
I'm confused as if you meant I was criticising him I wasn't, I was explaining he did in fact make a point.

Dave
[Android General] Guru Zeb:
It was the "Rant" bit i was drawing attention too, really it was a comment aimed at most of the rest of this thread, your pretty balanced .... for a Taff :D
[Android General] mistermentality:
Lol I'm English actually but yes I do live in the land of the taffy's.

Dave
[Android General] :
nice vid, thanks. Finally someone proof that android is better than IOS.
[Android General] :
Awesome videos, can't wait for the next one.

:D:D:D
[Android General] nitin1978:
Good video i love android....
[Android General] thebobp:
Simple: the 90% weren't claiming that they weren't fanboying it up. Heh.

Edit: To be fair, he didn't really claim that either. To see what he actually did claim, you might want to read up above.
[Android General] charmthief88:
Not afraid to admit I'm wrong
[Android General] boomboxcity:
Great videos. I have a guy at work who still swears that the iphone is more functional than android. This is exactly what he needs.
[Android General] ooofest:
Or, maybe not - if the iPhone does what he wants, it might be good for him.

Now, that's different than saying his points might be demonstrably wrong on iOS vs Android. If he's causing a pissing match, then the video could help to rebut his positions, I guess.

- ooofest
[Android General] thebobp:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/248726/jailbreaking_waivers_set_to_expire_in_2012.html

I believe that, once the copyright office's stay expires, jailbreaking will once again become illegal under the DMCA (You know, that retardedly broad law that effectively forbids any form of circumvention of the intent of the provider). I'm not a lawyer, though, and there's always a chance the stay will be renewed.
[Android General] rolar50:
Nice video, thanks
[Android General] makimac:
the videos are great, you did a good job explaining the functions and advantages of android :)
[Android General] lordofthegnomes:
Nice update, looking forward to future updates. These video's do a nice job of showing the capacity of the Android os. Apple is am excellent product but for me the os is too restrictive, even with a jailbreak. Android is customizable out of the box which makes it the choice for me. The ability to use titanium backup with a stock rom to save and backup all of your settings to an external memory card that can be restored across multiple devices. Apple is a good product but for my tastes requires too much brand loyalty. I can't have a tablet from one manufacturer and a phone from another and have them be compatible on various levels. Whereas android allows me this freedom, which enable me to choose devices based on hardware specifications that suit my needs.

It all depends on the type of user that you are. Both os's are excellent in their own right. The fact that both exist and are of such high caliber is good for us all because they will compete with each other for market share which is good for us consumers.

Thanks for the video.
[Android General] charmthief88:
Too late to do something.

Oh this is worrisome, and might need its own thread. While I'm not in the States, it is not good in any case. But what can be done, it looks like the deadline has been missed. :eek:

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Yeah Wicked has done some great work showcasing the usefulness and ease of android. Something which is often misunderstood.

You are right, in most cases the type of suitable OS does depend on what type of user you are. But Android offers a lot of choices. Which is why most of us are here.

2 excellent videos I can't wait for the third.
[Android General] juandidug13:
i personally prefer android. But i think google fails mostly in advertising, for example: i go into an ATT store or verizon, and the iPhone always has its own section all decorated and everything, whereas androids are always with the regular phones, otherwise dumb generic people would know what the galaxy nexus etc. Is, like everyone knows the iPhone. The second thing they fail at: Not having a sort of iTunes program, OTA upgrades are great but most common people dont even know what they are, since im a student in high school and i see people complaining about their froyo phones when they could of updated to gingerbread. Having and iTunes like program would make it more simple to the normal people on how to update just like everyone knows how to update their apple products. Thirdly, build of the phone, google i love your designon the nexus but plastic backs dont compete with the iPhone as much as i hate to admit it.
[Android General] relldroid:
I agree, google needs to promote Android more, its popular enough but marketing is what apple has the most, face unlock seems to be coming to apple soon probably, but the world don't even really know Android can do that already, show them! More then one Verizon commercial. Sheesh google you own half the world. Make it known, we need stylish devices more premium for the faint hearts, more appealing, bcuz the OS backs it up

SGH-T989
[Android General] boyo1991:
I was trying to thank this but for some reason didnt work. Anywho i have been searching for a video like this. Every apple fanboy is annoying. Ive become dependent on my android. Its even replaced my computer! (It was a netbook but still) ios = expensive plastic.
[Android General] Dark Knight Rises:
Thanks for that video. It ist a good one. But it is a hard work to convince an applefanboy, because most of them are just not open minded for some other things.
[Android General] virus786:
nice videos buddy. awaiting the rest of them :)
[Android General] Lykkis:
First off, my gf had Iphone 3GS and Iphone 4, she now has a Motorola Razr XT910 and love it. She will never go back to Iphone she says. The Razr is lightyears ahead of anything she used before. Her phone is still on 2.3.5 GB, unrooted and stock.

She bought a Ipad2 and she liked that one until I fixed my Acer Iconica A500 with rooted Thor rom 3.2.1. (No ICS on it yet as i'm still waiting on Acer to release theirs...... :mad:) Now, with my A500, it's better than her Ipad2 she says. Can do more, nicer to use and just better.

I for one won't buy Apple product because of their total control of the products. They decide how you should use it, not you. Before Android, i had a SE K810i, gf wanted some pictures i had on my phone on hers. Well, easy i though, let's bluetooth them over like we could back then... No go for Iphone! Well, let me transfer them to my pc, hook up her Iphone and put them on like a normal USB stick. NOPE! Won't work either, HAD TO TRANSFER WITH ITUNES! How stupid is that? Should Apple decide how i would like to transfer stuff to the phone? Do i need Itunes with ALL it's bloatware? I took a quick look at her pc today, found 10 processes running because of Itunes. It's just plain stupid! I stopped them from booting on start. All she use her Ipad for is some games and browsing.

To finish off this rant, Apple is worse than Sony and their PS3, PS Vita and Playstation Network deal!

Problem with Iphones is that they are in fashion, I have to say they have brilliant marketing. 90% of all people i talk to belives Iphones are best, only thing stopping them from buying one is the price and cost of using. They are very expensive in Norway. Motorola Razr here are looked at as middle range phone. But I'm perfectly happy with my cheap Huawei Honor, don't need a badass phone when i can make it do whatever i like at low cost.

Others claim that apps are better on Iphone/Ipad. I disagree!

http://www.redmondpie.com/study-reveals-that-ios-apps-crash-more-frequently-than-android/

Flame on... :D

PS: Other thing i notice is that Apple fanbois take it as a personal insult when you talk crap about their beloved phone/tablet/computer... SAD!
[Android General] zethsuna:
totally agree with u, android is very customizable devices that very awesome features. its affordable prices and many great developers here.. ;)

but i mostly think that iOS is only rich & lazy people ;)
[Android General] rkcj:
Please continue with the series. Not only are the videos good for educating apple users, they are useful for showing me features of Android that I didn't know existed. :D
[Android General] pazirez:
Yeah, keep up the series .. waiting for them :-)

Excelent work .. . and now, i could show your videos to my apple fan(atic) friends >D
[Android General] Wicked4u2c:
Bump for Part 3... Enjoy guys and gals!
[Android General] mcord11758:
Third video probably three best so fast for me
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] johngope:
everytime I try to play a video on espn or anywhere ofr that matter, it keeps coming up, unable to play..do I have to change settings on this somehow? I am currently using calk's el029 v2.9.2, please help..