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[General Questions and Answers] devilz666:
Buying Quad Core would mean that your phone is future proof. And to say that it won't matter because u don't use any such apps would be wrong because OS performance will be different.

It is though wrong to expect to see 100% gain just because you get twice as many cores but difference will be there as we see more quad phone launches, it is still too soon to judge, there arn't many phones but I am guessing things would be clearer by the end of 2nd quarter? But I am expecting to see as much performance gain from dual to quad as was seen on singe to dual. It should just depend on your budget.

Obviously games will benefit the most from this.

Why I look forward to see more quads on market is because then dual cores' prices will drop :D
[General Questions and Answers] tablord:
I am a 100% with you, Dogan.

And I want to add another example: Walking (Single Core) -> Motorbike (Dual Core) -> Limousine (Quad Core)

The jump from walking to motorbike is much greater than from motorbike to limousine. Sure, the Limousine has some advantages and a greater range of capabilities (e.g. 4-5 vs. 1-2 passengers) and features compared to the motorbike. But in some scenarios, most importantly mileage (battery life) and accelaration (single core performance), the motorbike can easily outperform the limousine.

Coming back to Dogan's comparison, Dual Cores are still more common in todays computer world even with quad and more cores entering the arena many years ago, simply because they fulfill the needs of 95% of customers. What extra does the Quad Core give you in the end? I would rather opt for long battery life and a strong gpu and be happy with a dual core processor for now..
[General Questions and Answers] Won Helder:
Dual-Core is enough ;)
[General Questions and Answers] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
I rather dual battery. LOL
[General Questions and Answers] icenight89:
so basically u corrected urself. Ur comparing nvidia quad core tech to other quad core tech lol, not dual core phones. And I hate to break it to u but those of us who believe quad core will use more power than dual core are correct. Even the new architecture with smaller manufacturing process cannot YET account for the cirrent 4 processors will draw. Maybe when the technology matures but not as of yet. It the first draft consumer release
[General Questions and Answers] bchliu:
Funny thing is.. all the negative comments on the Quad core is about what people are using it now.. as opposed to 12-18 months time. Have to remember that more cores will give more computing power for other capabilities.

As an Atrix user, I tend to use my phone for much more than what it is as a phone because I plug it into a lapdock and run Linux on it. There are more and more hybrids out there that will merge two technologies together like the Asus Transformer that can convert the device into a bigger one (tablet, laptop etc). In which case, the extra clock cycles and computing power will become rather important. No doubt, this will happen moreso when we move into Jellybean and when MS releases Windows 8 for ARM.

So realistically for me, buying a dual core is for today - but the quad will be for the next 12-18 months time. There are probably people out there that would disagree and say they change phones every 6 months, but this may not be so true for everyone.

Remember, when the Dual cores came out, everyone said the same thing - "One core is enough.. dont need two because of battery issues and dont need the capability etc". 18 months down the track, people say the same thing about the dual vs quad cores.

At the end of the day, it is all up to a user preference thing.

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18 months ago, people asked the same question on Single vs Dual core and the people argued on the same matters (performance vs battery life vs whats needed). Now, people argue about Dual vs Quad Core on the same reasons.

What you have to understand is that buying a dual core is buying technology for today. Buying Quad is buying a standard that will last 18 months.

You can argue that the benches apparently have the Krait and OMAPs running faster due to the optimisations of the current OS's. But this will change with new Jellybeans and Windows 8 for ARM later down the track. Not to mention that these companies are also working on Quad cores anyway (despite not being first to the market as per NVidia).
[General Questions and Answers] mohitrocks:
The battery life might be okay since things like the tegra 3 have an extra core which is the only core used for tasks which require less power (correct me if I'm wrong here)
[General Questions and Answers] adampa1006:
Anyone have any links for intelligent discussion on this issue? I am sure that a dual core phone will do 95% of the things I need for the next few years. But, I have an upgrade available and I will be waiting for a quad core phone probably. Might as well have the latest and greatest!
[General Questions and Answers] Kerosine:
I have to agree with the arguments presented by bchliu. I'm sure future OS upgrades will be able to fully utilise the cores better and thus lead to improvements in terms of usability. Moreover, as mohitrocks pointed out, some "quad" cores are in fact 5-core devices, with the fifth core being a single core that will, for most of the time, be the actual core running the device since probably 80% of the time you'd be doing tasks that only require one-core processing whilst using phone.

In the light of this 4-PLUS-1 technology, we need some battery comparison tests like the GSMArena testing for instance, only then can we start speaking objectively. Otherwise this all seems to me like the typical arguments against progress as is best evinced by phrases like this one, in 1943.

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

I think that pretty much sums it up.
[General Questions and Answers] jimbo.levy:
If you do get the One X, get the AT&T version (One XL).
[General Questions and Answers] krelvinaz:
Don't think there at very many options for quad core yet. Current dual cores are pretty fast.

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[General Questions and Answers] OmegaRED^:
Quad core has not yet matured.

P.E.R.I.O.D.

It does not have a big enough compatible app database to justify the requirement of 4 cores.

My tiny little 600mhz x10 mini pro can still tango with the big boys for it's pathetic size.

I would not suggest going beyond 3 cores for now.... lets play this one X-box 360 style safe....

Newer 2&3 core systems are more than capable.

Consider if Hex core would be released tomorrow... would you jump at it?

I usually wait to see what device gets the most updates and hax..

The x10 mini pro... i won in a dumb competition.
[General Questions and Answers] :
Im comparing it to what we have. When did I say quadcore will use less battery? Than dual core. Arm architecture is way different than the architecture built for the computers. Most chips in arm are you built for battery life first then performance.

The only one really making anything thing different is Qualcomm if they would open their hardware data sheets. They would probably take off in the market with developers everywhere. Ti omap and exynos both have fully open platforms. Nvidia is a joke your a desktop graphics card company and your gpu configurations are closed. Good luck using the power of tegra.

You should all stop buying (I know I am) into Nvidia and Qualcomm products. You want to see CM9 aokp,more optimization for kernels faster to your device only get devices with open software and hardware .

Games are optimized for arm design. Developers keep in mind that your not on a never ending power supply. So dual core is fine for now and the future. Let be honest unless your testing a new software or testing hardware you are not using your phone for anything moderately productive.

For those who say but we can run full ubuntu or whatever other os in the future. What device is really going to be efficient at that. Probably one the ASUS pad phone. Because it can turn in to laptop experience. Other than that nothing really.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
I wouldn't mind the dual boot. ICS on the best looking phone ever would be nice.
[General Questions and Answers] palad1n:
I would really prefer longer battery life instead of another two useless cores draining my battery.
[General Questions and Answers] bworley50:
I thought quad core was supposed to have better battery life
[General Questions and Answers] yahord:
It really doesn't matter that much. Dual core is probably the best option right now though
[General Questions and Answers] slapshot30:
It is. Many people here are very confused. They think more cores means more power needed so worse battery life which isn't true.
[General Questions and Answers] Allanitomwesh:
Loool
[General Questions and Answers] lion<3:
hahahaha.. LOL!!
[General Questions and Answers] jojobanin:
dual core
[General Questions and Answers] thamvmk:
As long as responsive.
[General Questions and Answers] profmed:
Maybe Dual core
[General Questions and Answers] Hippoman13:
Honestly a dual core should be fine. Android is more optimized for 2 cores technically, but the most important factor at this point is the gpu
[General Questions and Answers] sbektic:
OCTA CORE
[General Questions and Answers] :
Thats what normal to think but when you look at different architecture is plays a very different part. Andantech explains it very well http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
[General Questions and Answers] paintball23456:
YOU ARE ALL NOOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p quad core has better battery life then duel core look around on the internet and you will find that im right

look it up mate its true hard to explain but basically our cpu in the sgs is single so all the load is on one core i.e 1000mhz on the core at most times so this needs a higher UV to keep the cpu form over heating and it takes more power(ever realized why the sgs has crap battery life?) while a quadcore cpu spreads the load out over the cpu thus lowering the UV drastically i.e 1325 on a singlequadcore a quadcore will have a UV on each core of less than 200 why? cos there is the cpu load spread out over the 4 cores i.e 200mhz on each
[General Questions and Answers] :
A dual core 'may' increase battery life over the quad just because its 2 vs 4. All depends what you are going to be doing and how many cores can be utilized. Android doesn't utilize more than two dual cores. This is why Qualcomm Architecture krait which uses krait Asmp is better than Nvdia architecture.
[General Questions and Answers] shadowx360:
Right, the 4+1 will have better battery life than a full dual core if you just idle it or run it on the one core most of the time. But running at all four cores, obviously the dual core will have the advantage at the time, though the quad will get the operation done faster sometimes, allowing you to switch back to idle faster.
[General Questions and Answers] icenight89:
U guys must be talking abiut not using the phone at all and letting it sit on a desk... I'm talming about I. use operation. Anyone who says that while playing a game dual core uses more battery than a quadcore is a fool. Quad core is not yet mature, and is first gen. Maybe in a couple revisions yes, but as of right now this is not the case. I don't know about the rest of u, but I'm actually USE my phone, and that fifth core is only active for background tasks. When my phone has over 4 hours of onscreen time a day, no fifth core is going to give me better battery, not a chance.
[General Questions and Answers] paintball23456:
lool you guys will be surprised:D
[General Questions and Answers] syonatha:
I think you should wait until the next gen phones, which is based on ICS, are available. HTC One series are really promising, in terms battery life and performance.
[General Questions and Answers] playwithonehand:
I am in the exact same shoes as operator but everyone use phones for different purpose so in your case i recommend you to get NOTE as dual core 720p screen is more than sufficient for u as for me i was abt to pick up a note but decided to wait out for s3 as i cant wait to try out the quad and also all the crazy rumor abt being the best phone yet, wireless charging is going to b super sweet!
[General Questions and Answers] egg_n_ham:
i would say, dual core is good enough, Quad is overkill :)
[General Questions and Answers] dosage1:
fast dual core is good enough for now...
[General Questions and Answers] MattyOnXperiaX10:
You clearly know nothing aboutphones

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[General Questions and Answers] MattyOnXperiaX10:
No its not. Quad core is better because the phone will be able to run at super low frequencies thus saving battery life. All tegra 3 phones will be competing with the DroidRazr Maxx in battery life

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[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
I'm more than than happy with my Sensation's dual core performance...for now! :D
[General Questions and Answers] sickorwuut:
Quad core all the way

Upgrading to quad core in about april they save more battery life
[General Questions and Answers] BurnRubber90:
Same lol, I can downclock it to 800MHz while having a smooth UI. Not upgrading until Jelly Bean is out. Plus I prefer Qualcomm chips TBH.
[General Questions and Answers] DPMAce:
Lol at people going out and getting quad core as soon as it's available. Then 6 months down the line companies start releasing 6 or 8 cores. Sometimes it pays to have some patience and self control.
[General Questions and Answers] tw1ztidmopho:
Entirely depends on the time frames.. I know that quad is unnecessary atm, but you would be set for quite some time and it would handle multi-tasking like a god.:cool:

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[General Questions and Answers] OmegaRED^:
The problem is not when those cores are at idle....

THIS IS WHY I PULL OUT MY HAIR

If i bought a 4 core phone for standby purposes then pigs would fly.

For example.. when Tegra 2 goes idle it disables it's other cores leaving 1 low clocked core enabled. "This is the power saver" it's called a power saving core for a reason.

I still say the same thing... there is no warrant for quad core devices yet.

Not due to power.. but due to app database...

Do yourself s a favor and wait for the tech to mature better.
[General Questions and Answers] paintball23456:
yay im not the only one that knows this :D
[General Questions and Answers] bangsti:
Quadcore?

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[General Questions and Answers] twistedh:
Like most on XDA, I love a good gadget and if quadcore is the latest trend, then I want in on it. Plus I don't like staying with the same phone for too long but there just hasn't been anything worth me changing my Galaxy S2 for. Until the HTC One X comes out.

The extra cores will help power consumption in the long run so i dont think people should worry about battery drain so more.
[General Questions and Answers] jonathanpeter:
You mean Tegra 3??
[General Questions and Answers] dirtywood:
yes i need them
[General Questions and Answers] Mandrew:
My plan is to wait and see what happens in the next couple months. There will be plenty of reviews on the web to tell you if quad core is worth it or not. Also, I want to wait until there are lots of options with ICS.
[General Questions and Answers] tw1ztidmopho:
I just got cm9 ics on my photon... i LOVE it. It is by far the biggest change I have seen between versions. Enjoying it so much had to go off topicfor a min :P my bad
[General Questions and Answers] Dyrt Mcgyrt:
Quad core would rock imo
[General Questions and Answers] HelloDominick:
hmmmmm.. I'll say Tegra duhh
[General Questions and Answers] MattyOnXperiaX10:
I'm getting quad core

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[General Questions and Answers] luperez:
I'm sure power consumption is something that has been optimized if they're ready to embed oncoming cellphones with such technology. People were dubious with the release of dual core phones too. But look where we are now
[General Questions and Answers] TRW93:
Definitely go with the 4+1 phone if it's on your service.
[General Questions and Answers] Vadimjke:
it might take a while...

I think dual-core should be enough for smartphones atm
[General Questions and Answers] The Dogan:
According to some leaked benchmarks of the HTC One X the S4 is doing better than the tegra 3 found in the Transformer Prime.

Link to reference.
[General Questions and Answers] Vadimjke:
Yeah, and new Huawei processor probably gonna be even better.

Link to reference
[General Questions and Answers] Censura_Umbra:
It's true, these same arguments happened back when the Evo 4g was popular. Once we picked up our first dual-core phone, we realized we could never go back (and battery life has actually improved.) The same thing will happen with quad-core phones.

Will I get one right away? No, because dual-core is enough for now.

Even if Quad-core does use more battery, manufacturers will just give you more battery. (Remember when 1500 MaH seemed like a lot??)

So no one worry, and look forward to playing PS3 and 360 Emulators in 2-3 years lol. (or use onlive)
[General Questions and Answers] deepstate:
I think with a quad you are prepared for the future e.g. in case of os updates which make the cores work more effective.
[General Questions and Answers] K0mic:
Even double-cores aren't fully supported
[General Questions and Answers] Drzfr3shboialex:
I would go with a quad-core snaprdragon krait (late 2012 early 2013), or the new exynos 5 series, quad-core

sent from my sense sammich glacier
[General Questions and Answers] 4thMARCH:
I think dual core is enough :)
[General Questions and Answers] I Am Marino:
Snapdragon S4 is where it's at right now in terms of performance and overall use.

Even if quad cores coming out late this year blow that away, the processors we have now will still be relevant in 12 months+

It's not like the jump to quad from dual will be anything substantial like the jump from single to dual.
[General Questions and Answers] Kerosine:
Yes, the Nvidia Tegra 3.
[General Questions and Answers] breaderic:
sigh, still using single core smart phone :(

waiting for quad core phones, no more laggy feeling please :D
[General Questions and Answers] deeken:
Keep waiting guys, the 8 core cpu phones will be here in a few years.
[General Questions and Answers] sayeed91:
Yes. I'm with this person. Forget quad cores. I want dual batteries lol
[General Questions and Answers] paintball23456:
I waiting for the s3 :D
[General Questions and Answers] breaderic:
how about fuel battery? :D

or nuclear battery :cool:

idle time > 1yr
[General Questions and Answers] Vadimjke:
I cant imagine what kind of applications for smartphones might need a quad-core atm
[General Questions and Answers] Kmb470:
Dual Core

I have a dual core phone (HTC Sensation) and I would say from a stock perspective it helps keep the speed lightning fast with all the crap bloatware the carriers load on the device.

That said, I have an Asus TFP, which is quad core, and you cant really tell the difference unless youre playing a Tegra 3 game in IPS mode.
[General Questions and Answers] Dboy352:
I have a dual core phone (Galaxy S II Epic Touch) and the quad core Asus TFP and honestly their isn't a big difference in everyday usage. They both are very responsive and do everything I want at about the same speed. Even playing hot pursuit on them both they both play great with no lag. The difference I saw was in Modern combat 3 playing online in a multiplayer game it lagged every now and then on my phone but not terribly and not at all on the Asus TFP. As far as a phone it is rumored that the quad cores have a better battery life then the dual core but with my phone on the original battery it lasted me at it's highest 28 hours with moderate usage without a charge. With the extended battery which is 3500mah it lasted me at the highest 61 hours with moderate usage without a charge. If you aren't that worried about playing games or anything that would need a huge amount of processing power I say get the dual core 1.2 Ghz or higher and you shouldn't have a problem.
[General Questions and Answers] :
Well you guys need to understand nothing is future proof. Just because you have quad core. The next six months or less their will be even better quad cores. The same with dual core devices. There will always be one SoC better than each other. Every other year. Even computers are not future proof. There are still making better i7 processors. Better graphic processing units. So you would be at the rate android is going three months at best.
[General Questions and Answers] c5satellite2:
For the next 6+ months the s4 krait dual core will be the best solution for smartphones. Initial testing is showing that it outperforms tegra 3 quad-core in several aspects.

Two fast cores will be better suited for phone performance than four slower cores.

S4 krait graphics are said to be better than the tegra 3.
[General Questions and Answers] jdsinglebarrel:
I guess I just don't see the need for a quad core phone. Unless you need it, why buy it?
[General Questions and Answers] ElectricBubble:
I go dual save our money.
[General Questions and Answers] Metroidman:
I really want a Galaxy Nexus International but I have a SGS2 for AT&T

I wish the US would get those awesome International versions.
[General Questions and Answers] Drzfr3shboialex:
I want a dual/quad core s4 28nm or exynos 5 series 32nm with a 3500mah battery. That's awesome battery :D

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[General Questions and Answers] DPMAce:
I've noticed I buy a new phone with high end specs to brag to people more than anything. So if I don't upgrade to the best everytime, maybe it's a good thing lol
[General Questions and Answers] Embracce:
Unless you want huge benchmark scores... go with a dual core.

You'll get longer battery life for one. Plus, the most of the applications out there don't even have the framework for a quad core processor yet.

Dual core for a phone. I'm still stuck on a quad core for my desktop lol.

Unless the android os has a huge framework change where you'll need the other 2 cores to help process, I don't see the need.
[General Questions and Answers] sreza:
Krait S4 is dual-core 1.5 A15

Tegra 3 is quad-core 1.4+1.3' A9

If you can pull out the very best potential out of all the cores, then the Tegra outperforms Krait. Realistically however, 90% of everything you do on a mobile device runs on apps that aren't designed with multiple cores in mind. Therefore, for the vast majority of real life usage, Krait S4 will outperform Tegra 3.

Also, Tegra cores are designed to run all or nothing. If the app you're using only requires .6 power, the core will run at full 1.4 on it, using more than twice as much battery power as required. Krait S4 adjusts the clock speed dynamically, meaning more efficient battery usage without even factoring the bonus from being A15 instead of A9.

As for me, I'm drooling in anticipation of the Asus Padfone! ^_^
[General Questions and Answers] DPMAce:
Yeah really. I don't even have a quad core laptop. Why would I need it in my phone.
[General Questions and Answers] MattyOnXperiaX10:
Another person who doesn't know what they're talking about

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[General Questions and Answers] TheSkinnyDrummer:
For the rest of us who don't "tweet", please elaborate.

Sent from my coffee pot.
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This is right. A standard a9 dual core will always lose out to a15. Being that a15 brings 40% more performance. The price a15 comes with is currently it has a lot of power leakage. Hopefully Qualcomm might of fixed that being that krait is based on a15 not actually an a15 architecture. Keep in mind that krait also dynamically scales voltage unlike most SoC.
[General Questions and Answers] Jigsaff:
Quad-core: now this is not necessary. But in the future it will be useful.:)