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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
+100 For suggesting some respect and personal responsibility. As a mom who paid for her son's phone until he got his first job (and now pays for his own phone), I totally agree with these and other comments about having a little damn respect and appreciation for the person giving you such an awesome phone and service.

Also, I'm gonna go ahead and call bull**** on this whole post because he waits until people disagree with him before letting us know his dad is okay with the rooting but mom isn't. Sounds like a trumped up story to get a little attention.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] krisI0N:
to sign a legal document I must be 18, I will in two years when it is legal for me to do so
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] krisI0N:
no my question was If the contract stated that rooting a device is illegal.. well not illegal.And but whatever it was, and I did phrase it wrong, my dad does not want me to root my phone. He simply. doesn't care, but he does want me to root his.. and I'm living with my mother so if he was okay with it wouldn't matter much.. but now that this is turning into people being asshole about it somewhat I guess I should of asked somewhere else.

thank you to those who did help.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
You could always give your mom the money for your part of the bill. That way you're paying for it and you'd have more of a say in what you do with the phone. You might also offer to buy the phone from her too since in reality it's hers.

That's how things were done back in my day anyway. Or we just shut up and kissed our parents ass when they got nice things to play with.

Sent from inside the matrix
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I'm sorry I guess I just don't connect with today's overly sensitive, angsty youth. So how exactly is suggesting you appreciate and respect your mom us being assholes?

Maybe one day when you're grown with kids of your own you'll better understand, until then I did suggest something early in this thread that might help with your mom, which was, bring her to this forum and let her read for herself that it isn't illegal, but by the gods, do it in a respectful manner. She didn't just give you a phone and service, she gave you life! (how's that for righteous indignation? lol)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jigwashere:
At least 3 of the Sprint reps in the store in downtown Minneapolis have rooted and ROM'd their E4GTs and are happy to talk about it. Doesn't appear to be an issue with them at all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] krisI0N:
I get what your getting at but your comment seemed a little harsh towards me.. you could of out it in a nicer way =)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeremyritzmann:
Kris, I've been the techie son before (granted it was in the days before android, when fixing the blinking light on the VCR and fixing the dial up/windows 95 issues were my duties...:sigh:...), and it can be difficult to explain these kind of things to your parents who may not quite get your point. But, I'm also a father. It really IS all in the way you approach it. Like you said, if it were advice on a business meeting you know she would school you. Well, approach it in that manner! It will not only explain it more in her language but will also show her your maturity and lend you more credibility. Print out these comments (sans rude/negative ones), a copy of the tos from sprints site (highlight the applicable portions), as well as a review of what rooting is really doing to your phone. Sent her a text/email, call her, or in passing ask her what a good time would be for you and her to sit down to go over what you have found in your research. More than likely she may not understand fully what rooting is, was misinformed, or there may be an under lying cause to why she doesn't want you to do it (like your dad trying to score free tethering. Moms read that as stealing, dads read it as pffft FREE!). In short have an open, honest dialouge and show her that you can back up your points in a clear, concise, and informed way. It shows respect and intelligence.

For everyone that's helped Kris and been respectful, you folks are awesome sauce. For the jerks, grow up. He asked for help, not to be treated like an infant. He is a young man asking us how to approach this in a mature and respectful way because he is still learning how to be an adult. You could all take a lesson from him.

Kris, you seem like an intelligent young adult. Even if you can't make her see what you see, take it as a lesson on how sometimes we see things differently no matter what the "facts". Fact is perspective and sometimes we have different ones. Parents are human, just as our children are. If nothing else, she WILL be proud that you took the time to treat her with respect, and that you are becoming a well rounded adult. I have faith it'll turn out well for you! ;-)

Namaste
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I'm always nice until I have reason not to be. My first response to you was nothing but helpful. It was only after it dragged on and on that the whole scenario wore on my patience.

Basically I'm fed up with disrespectful individuals as a whole but especially kids who don't realize how good they've got it. Trust me, my son gets a piece of my mind whenever I feel he falls into that trap; so you could say I treated you like a son. Now doesn't that soften the blow? :-)

If I'm guilty of anything it's that maybe I should've given this thread a pass after my initial comment but I stand by my suggestion, show your mom the forums but understand and respect her reluctance if she still balks, after all if you brick your phone during rooting (as many have done) who has to pay for a new one? Mom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jimlarck:
Funny Story

Sprint doesn't want you rooting your phone, for 2 reasons, 1st: They cannot fix something they don't know about. 2nd: its not convenient for them to have people rooting phones, because, what if the Stock rom of a phone is slow and buggy, they'll have you think its your phone and you need to spend money to get a newer and better one. I have an uncle who would always come to me if his phone had problems, because the sprint costumers didn't help much, one time, He got pissed at the manager, and said "I have a Nephew that is way smarter than all your dumba** customers, I bet you 1 dollar that he answers any question you ask him, 1 dollar per question" , the Manager pissed looked at him and said "Ok , bring him". He took me in the next day, the Manager was suprised that I was only 13, he laughed, in the end we came out of the sprint store with 68 dollars :P. Now the Manager there always comes to me and I know every single Employee name from the store, I helped in the store helping out people who had questions there and the Manager called me his son that he never wanted but is convenient to have :D.

I don't know if you should think that there is a Morale in this story, but I just want to let you know that, 99% of the people here, are smarter than customers in a sprint store. So if you need help regarding your phone, come to a xda. Not Sprint
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RedXXII:
I am an indirect service manager and i always show people my phones when they're rooted and rommed. I even rooted a customers Nexus S five minutes after he got it because he was having terrible issues with GB.

As stated before, software or service issues i always make a customer go back to stock. Hardware is covered as long as i can duplicate the issue.

Glad to see so many sevice reps chiming in here.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JHaskin84:
I'm a Sprint store manager and there is no issue contractually in regards to rooting. On the flip side any warranty issue and you are SOL unless you know well enough to flash stock rom, unroot, and remove superuser
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jimlarck:
Never thought i would hear that from a Sprint manager. Well with that done. I hope the OP has enough evidence and enough information regarding rooting so that his mother would understand
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
In about 1 month the FBI will knock on your door and have you arrested for rooting your Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch. Rooting your phone to have full administrator rights is illegal on earth. You need to get in a space shuttle and launch to Pluto to do all your rooting process there and then comeback so you wouldn't feel guilty for using wifi tether, crack gameloft HD game, applanet, 4share apk files...etc......
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
By the way you can do every one off those without root.....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jimlarck:
Yang proved a point (I think) its pretty.dumb if it were illegal, rooting itself.isn't illegal, but the things you could do with it would be. up to you bro.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 12MaNy:
Rooting voids your warranty.......and that's about it. To my knowledge, it is not illegal to root your device, nor does it violate your contract with Sprint. However, since your mom's flipping the bill and the fact that she's your mom.....I'd respect her rules. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Say you downloaded widget locker
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] NaeNegriTech:
I was a Sprint tech for many years - our particular store was very knowledgeable about rooting. Actually, I think every one of my former coworkers are XDA members.

The general consensus among the techs when I was there regarding rooting was - if it's an obvious hardware issue that had nothing to do with being rooted (touchscreen out, blown speaker/earpiece, etc..) we would work on them no question asked (but let the customer know, hey, we know it's rooted but we're taking care of you anyway. Just because you're awesome). If the phone was having software issues, we would inform the customer that it was probably related to rooting the phone - return the phone to stock and if it was still having the same issue to bring it back. Now if the phone was bricked and we could tell it had been rooted we would refuse to work on it because that would require exchanging the phone.

The techs avoid exchanging the phone because they are tracked/graded/ranked on their repair vs. exchange rate (as to reduce Sprint's cost).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] krisI0N:
Lmao. some of these replies.. lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jimlarck:
Dude, ever thought of opening up your own Sprint store? I would seriously drive thousands of miles if I ever have a problem.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthejoker20:
Move out of your Mom's basement = problem solved
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VDub2174:
I may be wrong about this but years ago (when rooting.jailbreaking first came into play), didn't phone companies/manufacturers try to say it was illegal to stop people form doing it? It was Apple that tried to say it was illegal (source).

I believe all that was overturned to just say that it wasn't illegal but it voids warrenty.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] morbidrealities:
Just a thought. I don't now how old the kid is but even if he held a job, payed for his phone and bill if he's younger than 18 his mother can still tell him not to root if she thinks it's illegal. I have 3 kids of my own and you can't ask a child to respect you if you don't respect them as well. So to the kid..... It's all about the approach. Speak calmly yet with passion and supply facts vs opinion. Be able to back up your facts with evidence and don't treat your mom like she doesn't have a clue. Be a condescending ahole and you're sure to be told no. Also don't forget she is your mom and obviously while misinformed does not want you to get in trouble. Great mom in my opinion
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
They can't void your warranty by the mere act of rooting because of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

They have to prove your root actions caused the damage being claimed for repair to void the warranty. If your headphone jack is failing intermittently they can't say because you rooted we won't fix it, because it is obvious the root had nothing to do with it.

Magnuson-Moss is there to prevent situations like car dealer trying to void your drivetrain warranty for installing after-market wiper blades. If they can prove the action resulted in the damage, then they can void the warranty.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Karakoram2:
Go magson act go
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VDub2174:
Sweet, that's good to know :)

My statement was just based off of memory from reading something 2 years ago, it seemed to fail me this time....lol

Out of curiosity then, I remember seeing on some ROM postings a warning saying that rooting voids warranty. I take it that's not the case anymore based on the Magnuson-Moss Act?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] NaeNegriTech:
Haha, if only it was that easy.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jimlarck:
Not joking, need money? -donates 90.5mil dollars-

Kidding. If i had that much money I would donate
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arpruss:
I am not a lawyer, but I just skimmed through the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, and while I think your ultimate conclusion is right, it may be more complicated than just having a prohibition on voiding in such cases. Normally in this connection people cite the stuff about after-market modification in Magnuson-Moss. But that only says:

What I think this means is that they cannot say: "Your warranty is void unless you use brand X batteries" or "Your warranty is void unless you have regular service by official brand Y technicians" (unless they provide brand X batteries or regular brand Y service free of charge under the terms of the warranty). But I think this clause still allows them to say something like: "Your warranty is void if you paint your car green", as long as they don't identify "by brand, trade, or corporate name" the paint.

Fortunately for us, there is another relevant point:

And the official Samsung warranty information does not contain any exclusion or limitation for rooting. It only contains an exclusion for damage caused by unapproved modifications. (Moreover, Wikipedia says "Under the terms of the Act, ambiguous statements in a warranty are construed against the drafter of the warranty".)

Nonetheless, when I emailed their customer service, they said that they void warranty for rooting. I emailed them back asking for chapter and verse in the warranty. If they persist in breach of their warranty terms, I may file an FTC complaint.

Sprint's contract is a different matter. It says that they can terminate your service at any time for any reason they see fit, including rooting. It's not really a prohibition on rooting. As per contract, they can likewise terminate your service for putting your phone in a sequined case or for owning a ferret.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kurtiskobain:
It's really hard to define a line between hardware and software issues with a rooted device. If you come into my store with a rooted device and complaining about powercycling and poor battery life, yes I will turn you away. If your smart enough to root, let alone install recovery and flash roms, your smart enough to restore and see if the issues are persistent. The only exception to this rule is when some woman walks in with these issues, because her son/husband rooted and Rom'd her phone without her knowing or consenting. In this particular case I restored for her... but at the same time, her issues were resolved, really only strengthening my point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
Amen Brother! Could not have said it better.

Doc
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
Show her this:

http://www.android-advice.com/2012/sprint-customer-support-to-support-rooted-devices/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arpruss:
I think it depends on the issue. Let's say the screen develops nasty bright areas (this happens on some LCD phones, but I don't know if it can happen on OLED displays). There is a pretty good bet that it's not caused by rooting. Likewise, if the volume buttons are not responding, or the headphone jack is not registering, etc., then as long as the device has been restored to a stock ROM and the problem persists, I think it's a pretty good bet that it's not caused by rooting.

I am not a lawyer, but I think the legal burden of proof would be on the repair personnel to show that the damage falls under a warranty exception clause. Magnuson-Moss has an exemption for damage caused by the consumer, but the burden of proof there is on the manufacturer. To use the exemption the manufacturer needs to

It doesn't look like the consumer is required to show or prove anything. On the contrary it looks like requiring the consumer to prove something would typically violate this part of the law:
[Windows 8 General] omar_killer:
Hey guys

my 250Gb HDD is full,that's the main HDD on my pc for years,and now it's full

so I downloaded windows 8,and installed it on my other HDD,it's 500GB just to try it

I would like to know if I can install the two HDD's so that I don't have to replace the HDD's everytime I want to use the windows 8?

And btw I don't use the 500Gb HDD because I think that it have bad sectors,how can I really confirm (or fix this)?
[Windows 8 General] ohgood:
If it has bad sectors, throw it away.

You can put two, three, or even 10 harddrives in one machine, if it has the capacity. Turning off ide/sata/scsi channels in the bios is a faily easy way to decide which os to boot.

Bootloaders are not something I recommend to folks without prior harddrive swapping experience.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theroom3600:
Hi.

i want to flash a froyo rom.what is the best froyo rom without lag?

and what is the best kernel for that rom?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iflawlietasgod:
I think every froyo rom is the best and most stable on android, recommended froyo pro with stock kernel, with alfs kernel sometimes, wifi sometimes get error, so I recommended stock kernel :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simon.baconnais:
Hi !

I'd like to offer a public access through Android Tablets via Tethering.

The problem is that in France I have to log IPs and visited Websites when I provide a public wifi access.

I searched in the Android doc but I have not found anything ...

Is this possible? If so, how?

Thank you in advance :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simon.baconnais:
Any idea ? :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simon.baconnais:
Can this thread be moved to section Android Software Development ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AngelOfGrief:
As an easy solution, you can use command line netstat utility that shows all current network connections on all network interfaces.

If you call the utility at intervals, you will have a sort of ip address log. You can pipe output to file, like netstat > iplog.txt
[HTC Wildfire S] mhrsolanki2020:
Hey guys can someone help me with it?

http://pastebin.com/7q69qymd

just tried to port from explorer Aisa India ruu to wildfire s from dsixda's kitchen..

the splashscreen comes vibrates once and then againn it goes .. it comes vibrates and goes.. and so on. sort of a bootloop..
[HTC Wildfire S] MrTaco505:
You sure its a bootloop?
[HTC Wildfire S] mhrsolanki2020:
the ans might be a no cuz i can use the logcat as it only says -waiting for device-

when i connect my device and still that splash screen goes on rebooting
[HTC Wildfire S] BigChillin:
I don't know why you pasted over a thousand lines for this (ya, i browsed through all of it). I'm pretty sure you can't just throw any old ROM in the kitchen and get a bootable port.

But to be clear, that IS a bootloop (not sure how you got confused about that). And i believe (don't know) that the problem is your boot img. Did you happen to at least switch those out when you cooked?

Sent from my HTC_A510c
[HTC Wildfire S] mhrsolanki2020:
when i created the rom (the ported one of which recovery.log you read) it had said something to me like

the kitchen creates a flase boot.img sometimes for porting
Creating boot.img

and something like that i then thought of pasting the recovery log ..

then i tried again.. this time i extracted the rom.zip from htc explorer and extrcted into the folder n kept it in the place where i keep the boot.img and system.img (original_update folder) and when in kitchen i selected the whole folder while porting the second time.. then flashed the rom.. it again got the same splash screen and rebooted (i thought when you get a bootanimation and reboot then it is called boot loop and in my case its splash screen and boot loop so got a lil confused)

i updated the working folder of the second rom i made... i removed all system apps and pasted all system apps from the m1ndh4x8r's sense 3.5 rom.. (i am not using his rom as it is ported from chinese ruu and it has many FRIED RICE AND CHINEESE noodles in it (i mean chinese things like browser , contacts and all) ) and i have never ported a rom before and i dont know how to detect errors in recovery log.. even i read the whole thing but didnt understood it.. so posted.. thanks for reading it.. can you help me further in this?
[HTC Wildfire S] mhrsolanki2020:
changing the build.prop (copying a build.prop from a working rom of wildfire s and pasting in this working folder of sense3.5 rom overwriting the exiting one ) will be of ny help?
[HTC Wildfire S] BigChillin:
It sure couldn't hurt too much. And you could be right, i hadn't heard of just the HTC screen being called something else so I've just assumed it was all a bootloop. (my n00bness)

In general somewhere, a guy replaced just the boot.img and one other file (possibly the build.prop, I'd have to check) and got cm9 to boot for the marvelc. It had a bunch of other problems, but the point it's that in practice, it should work.

Sent from my HTC_A510c
[HTC Wildfire S] mhrsolanki2020:
replaced the boot.IMG ??:O do we have to use boot image of the ROM which we wanna port or we have to use our boot.IMG ??
[HTC Wildfire S] mhrsolanki2020:
hey i tried using the boot.img of htc wildfire s for both the time (one when it asked to select a working rom for my device and second when it asked me to select a rom i wanna port {had replaced the boot.img with the one in one of my back up of rom}) and also pasted the build.prop

had no luck ..

now i pulled the recovery log for the ported rom.. and then i flashed a previously working rom and took its recovery log too .. now gonna examine both and see where is the fault and i guess i will gradually learn to read recovery log.. :( no other way to do rather than trail and error
[HTC Wildfire S] mhrsolanki2020:
hey man can you do me a last favour? just read these both again.. (not the whole 1000 lines.. i have read it all so you dont have to need to do that again )

just see starting part untill the minzip starts and the line number 977 and 978 in The ported roms log

and line number 973 and 974 in recovery log of Stock rom
[General Questions and Answers] proudnation47:
Hi every body i m new in ur forum. i don't know how to get the code from apk file. i have go through ur early posts now i m stuck that how can i run the dex2jar.bat. i m using win7 please guide me. Thanks alot
[General Questions and Answers] Theonewithideas:
Hello proudnation47 and welcome to XDA.

You'll need dex2jar and jd-gui in the process, so download them.

Extract classes.dex from apk:

-rename .apk to .zip

-open with archive manager like WinRar, 7zip or whatever

-copy the classes.dex file where you want (on desktop, for example)

Open command prompt:

-press "Windows" key and "R"

-type cmd

-press "Run"

In command prompt:

-type cd [location of dex2jar folder]

-for example "cd C:\dex2jar"

-type dex2jar.bat [location of classes.dex]

-for example "dex2jar.bat D:\Classes.dex"

And it will create .jar file in the folder of your Classes.dex (for example above, it will create "D:\classes-dex2jar.jar"

Then open jd-gui, navigate to newly created .jar file with "Open With" and it will display the content of .jar file.

Notice that this process isn't perfect, and that you cannot create workable .dex file, the sole purpose of this process is to make it easier to understand to code.

If you want to edit it and create a workable file, you'll need to use jesusfreke's smali/baksmali method, which is harder to understand, but you'll create a workable file at the end.