yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
Same was said about our Senny, and what did we get? Revolutionary. Everything is possible, its just a matter of time and effort.

The way Asus does unlock is crying for an proper s-off like unofficial way, to make thing more open and more safe.

After watching the pressure on AlphaRev with HTC unlock, it wouldn't surprise me if they are actually working on it but keeping it quiet.

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Dave Wave:
Encryption is a funny joke.

I want to start by saying I don't have all the answers to encryption. However, if you were to looks at encryption from a simplistic mathematical equation (as do programmers)

(X + Y) = Z

X = a unknown variable of infinite possibilities

Y = a mathematical collaborative equation with X, crating a consistency in the encryption equation

Z= Equals the unknown/infinite result, or, the unlock encryption or paraphrase to the same.

Bare in mind, often, there are more variables then X and Y which equal Z - This example is simplistic.

The key is identifying the consistencies and inconsistencies in the equation by reviewing coding. Again, not always an easy task, you have to study the coding (which has many languages depending on platform, security, etc.) and/or the way the OS reacts to coding input.

If one cannot achieve the above due to the infinite possibilities of unknown variables in the environment.... One must change the programming environment by introducing a new environment ex) Using Linux root to unlock file partitions in Windows to bypass security perimeters, or even walking around WEP or WPA encryptions not mentioned on this site. Encryption: Think of it like someone closing a door and locking it. Your can break through the door by kicking it in, or drilling the lock...or by going through the window left open, changing your entry method.

Just sharing some thoughts based off of my experience on multiple platforms.

Wave.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HydroSkillet:
Sure it's possible. It's been done with other devices it's just extremely hard and doesn't have the need that some of the other devices had before they were cracked. If you're worried about the warranty so much I would be the accidental damage warranty on it.

This was brought up many many times in December and it's just not worth the time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Hawke84:
i hope it is being worked on in secret that would be perfect. im getting worried with all the rumblings of TF201 being end of life already in some of the other threads.. :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
I keep a very close eye on the things here, very close.

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shreddintyres:
All i will say is this, i have a Samsung Vibrant it was thought the vibrant would be EOL last year, well it happened samsung stopped support for the device stopping at froyo 2.2 (didnt even bother with the 2.2.1 update) since then development for the vibrant has sprouted. As of right now the device is running 4.0.3 that said im sure many TF101 owners were scared by the release of the TF201 given that they felt device support from developers would drop.

This is a great device by every possible measure and i have a feeling the Dev community will support it for some time, that said i wouldnt worry too much about whether or not ASUS continues support, it will only be a matter of time before the device is decrypted, or our warranties will run out and there will be no problem unlocking the device given the asus utility.

Fret not my friend

- Cheers
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] barnacles10:
New xda HD app. Thoughts? Available in the store.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dazednconfused:
Didn't know it was out, but will check out on my Galaxy Tab. Thanks for the info.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BrandoKC:
Pretty sweet I must say.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gilberthcordova:
Why the app is not compatible with my Lenovo K1? anyone knows?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzy619:
The app keeps force closing and freezing on my galaxy tab. Also there are no page numbers?! The thought is there but ill stuck to the premium till its fixed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] barnacles10:
I find in to be... Lacking a bit. It runs fine for me but it seems the only difference is an action bar. I bought it anyway since it's only a dollar right now with the hope that it will only get better. = p
[Acer Iconia A500] Rmonaghan88:
Went from light speed to flexreaper with full wipe of course and along the way I lost root . Can still boot in to cwm and flash nandroid and loads fine but no superuser on any of my backups.

any thoughts?
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
Uninstall Superuser, then reinstall from the market?
[Galaxy S II Accessories] chiggah:
..But battery widget monitor says its 1650 mAh :(

Is there any other app to confirm that its either 1650 or 1800 mAH ?
[Galaxy S II Accessories] peterelliott11:
Assuming your talking of the 3C71 Battery Widget, you have to update the mah in its settings. Have a look in Monitoring then Battery Capacity.

I have a 1900mah battery and after a good few charges and discharges the app now reports it at 1957mah, it just takes a little time to learn.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] cdzo72:
I can't believe you are SOOOOOOOOO lazy that you don't even bother to look in the settings of the very app you have installed on your phone.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
I'm really disappointed to know that this is a new phone and with just a few programs install that I'm not. All I'm left with is around 320mb out of 700.. Android is complete fail!!!!!!!! This is no better than my OLD ASS HD2 with 512mb Ram running Android at least I was left with around 200mb with 4 screen full of widgets and icons compared to one screen I have running on my note!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpeg42:
Obvious troll is obvious.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Truaim:
Obviously. Go back to your hd2, we don't want you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erad1:
if you had a captivate at 320mb you'd be about max'd out of ram (338mb)...and its linux system based kernel so keeping a certain % of ram active is good thing. you know that right? when you say install you meant running right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
How da hell I'm trolling for telling da dam truth. Your da troll for denying... You explain how does a new phone with few apps only is widget is time and folder widget . Keep in mind that everything is off like Bluetooth and data. So what happens when those turn on 250mb left....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
I totally understand when you say that install mean running, thats my issue with Android. But I can't stand when fanboys deny it instead of complain in hopes of developers fixing the issue.. I normally hear da same darn excuse the system know when to stop the application, but guess what that does not work else their would be no reason for people downloading an app to stop the programs constantly running on da phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] roloracer:
I don't know what's wrong with your setup but I have 400mb free ram out of 732mb, and I have widgets in 5 screens and apps open right now, and I can relate with the hd2 which I have 2 of them that I love and they're awesome devices but you can't compare it to this phone.

RoloRacer on Galaxy Note!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
hows he a troll?? that's a very legit concern he has and he is not the only one. if you are one of those blind people who feel offended if they hear something bad about their device then that's your problem. yes truth is that out of 1gb ram, only 700mb is available and that does SUCK! and it is not android to be blamed, becuase htc phones they have sense which we all know takes lots of ram space but at least we know that it is sense taking ram space, while this phone has touchwiz which is supposed to be "light" but apparently it is not that light afterall, since there is 300mb ram missing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpeg42:
Coming to an xda forum saying "andriod is complete fail!!!!!!!!" is trolling. if I did the same at macrumors and said that about iOS, it would be trolling.

I am not blind, I am informed. I understand where the 300MB RAM you claim is "missing" goes to, and I understand how Android handles memory management. Is there something you can't run because you are out of RAM? No? Then quit worrying about it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
So wat do you call 320 out of 700mb running... Should I say complete success?? It is was it is, I love the idea of Android because it gives me options compared to other OS, but I'm sorry but we need the option to be able to completely close running apps.. Hate to say it, I got a playbook with at least 50 apps and guess wat no ram issues, you know why? Cause when you close a damn app the darn thing closes... Honestly can you do that with Android, let me answer dat for you hell no without your device bugging out. So wat point is having a memory management that apparently is not working good?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Truaim:
Tl;dr, just wanted to point out the troll only defends a troll, and trolls the legits.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SeenNotScene:
Agreed, these forums are to improve our phones, to get information, and to assist others in doing so. You have 30 days to try your phone, if you don't like it, try a windows or an iPhone. Otherwise, look around the forums or ask nicely for a solution in the Q & A.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] andrawer:
Seriously, You might want to research and learn how memory management works with Android and other operating systems.

Also, the kill apps programs exist to stop runaway apps that were not written properly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
just shut up and go talk to yourself how amazing the note u got is ;) u know **** about ram.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
Dude wat is Ur point is memory management working? No, if you say it is Ur a lier, download 50 apps and then test a playbook with 50 apps and you will notice how different the playbook handles app. Don't get me wrong I'm not bragging about playbook because they have its faults but I cant stand when fanboys act as if theirs no issue...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
How do you improve our phones when you act like the problems don't exist? Exactly they will never be improved!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kiltedthrower:
They're improving all the time. I guess I don't know what exactly you expect out of a PHONE that has some tech capabilities. And, obviously, this phone does not suit your needs if you need to be running a ton of apps at the same time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] techntrek:
To the OP - no concern is invalid. These forums exist to handle questions and problems, you have a concern. Yes something is a memory hog out of the box. No, Android isn't perfect - you are right. Could you have said something other than "Android sux". Sure, but we've all said things that were over the top when we were mad or frustrated.

As for your concern, first thing to consider is how much memory is reserved for that high-def screen (slightly better resolution than 720 HD). Then how much is reserved for AT&T bloatware that runs all the time, like Mark the Spot which I didn't know about until yesterday... thanks to this forum. Wait for ICS, see how it performs, if you still don't like the situation then root and try a cooked rom.

To those calling him a troll. Stop being Android fanboys, you can act better than the iPhone sheep. The OP has a legitimate concern, whether you want to hear it or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] khaytsus:
He has a concern. It's nonsense, but sure, he's obviously concerned. Can't argue that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jwood55812:
If you have memory left, then yes, to Android that's a win. Android keeps your most recently used applications in memory so that next time you start them, they load up instantaneously instead of having to read from NAND. I'm not doubting that your phone may be a bit laggy, but it's not the RAM. It may be the TW overlay with it's hooks so deep into the system thats causingit, but it's nto a shortage of RAM. My phone flies with 50 apps installed, try a ROM from the dev section if you're not satisfied with your performance.

Threads like these we should just give an answer to, downvote, and walk away, like I'm doing right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
To OP,

Android is fine at memory management. Your phone is fine. Stop being parnoid of memory usage like all WM fans do. Morden OSs like Android (and new WP7) keep frequently used apps in memory so that they are quicker to launch. But when you need to have more memory, those apps can be quickly evacuated from memory as well, unlike WM which tried to do the same thing but failed in most cases. That's why most WM users check their memory usage all the time. This is no longer the case with Android and WP7.

Since Froyo, Android also support a new feature that will preload certain apps upon boot up. Unfortunately, for most carrier phones like Note, carriers will make sure their bloatware will always be preloaded to the memory upon boot. The only way to get rid of that is to root and remove all the bloatware.

The bottom line is don't worry about your memory usage. You will hardly notice any side effect of it. In fact my GTab 10.1 is contently running at 600 of 730 memory foot print.

And whatever you do, don't use those task killer apps. What happens is that you often kills the apps that are required for normal operations and Android has to reload them from NAND, a waste of time and battery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] flintdragon:
Back in the day, my captivate would seriously lag when memory is low. Task killers were wonderful. But that issue is pretty much non-existent now.

Yes, the OS is filling up memory with apps but most of those apps are not running. They just aren't purged from memory until that memory is needed. This actually helps performance in that programs you use frequently is probably still in memory when you use it again.

It would only be a problem if you see performance suffering from it. Back on the captivate, launching some apps could effectively push the launcher app out of memory but on my Note, more often than not, this doesn't happen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Captivate lags regardless of memory usage. The root cause is Samsung used some stupid file system (their own file system) for apps parition. Ever since that, Samsung learnt the lesson and stop using that and use EXT4 instead.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpeg42:
You are right, and I apologize to the OP. Based on lack of proper grammar and "teh suxor!!!!" attitude, I thought for sure this was an Apple Fanboy trolling us. If he had a better attitude, I would have gladly pointed him to some reading information.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
OP read this post. Then read it again. Then once more for good measure.

Sent from the best mobile device ever --Samsung Galaxy Note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] AllGamer:
in the serious side of things...

i ate up all 16 GB with just about 7 Gameloft games + 3 from EA

most of those games now in days needs at least 1GB for game data
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SayWhat10:
Aside from his stated memory problem, is the OP not able to run programs? Or gets low memory errors? I used to get that all the time on my old evolution, but not with my next phones that had 1 gig ram
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Keep in mind OP comes from a HD2, the last Windows Mobile super phone. As a Windows Mobile user of the past (owned nothing but WM phones until my Captivate), I can tell you available free memory of the phone is the top concern for any experienced WM users. Ppl were willing to tweek, hack and use custom ROMs all day long to free up as much memory as they can. In many cases, WM core OS (sans the ugly UI) is very much like Android but it can never get the memory management right.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] roloracer:
I know, I have like 2gigs left in mine lol

RoloRacer on Galaxy Note!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kevinjgray88:
Ya I have about 400 MB free and I am fully loaded

Sent from the only smartphone designed by Chuck Norris
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mintu123:
you dumb fsss just dont get it.why you even look at ram part.keep running ur **** like u always do.if some hell if a app wont run because of ram usage then post a problem on here.otherwise just use the damn phone

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do they even have 50 useful apps

had a playbook and hated it.did not even have skype
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
Yea... really don't hate Android as what fan-boys think I've been rocking Android from it was first released. Yes I have to give it to them, they have greatly improved from where it's coming from. I somewhat know how the memory management works, like you stated the recent apps you open are stayed in memory but what about the other 10 apps that start by themselves??? From I start up my phone and head to running apps there's over 10 apps that is taking up memory. Does that sound efficient to you? Now if my Windows 7 OS that I have many apps on, imagine if the system ran the same way and your a web designer or a producer where you need your ram and you can't stop your apps until the system decides to stop them how efficient would that be for your system? So that means I'm pretty much limited in how many apps I can install on my phone. If they automatically start I cant stop them if I do they will start again. I can't clear the one's that I opened recently until the management system decides that an app needs a certain amount of memory and start closes some apps. Honestly does that sound efficient??? :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
Yes it does actually. You have to get out of that windows mindset. That's not how ram works in android.

Sent from the best mobile device ever --Samsung Galaxy Note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
What type of idiotic question is that? "why you even look at ram part" Do you think if I started my phone and start scrolling through screens without no lagging do you really think I would be hear wasting my time with you! No! You can say what you want about the Blackberry because most of it is true their lacking in software and what they have are way over priced. But guess what you can download all the garbage apps they have and not have a lag in the device, now can you do this with Android? No
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
Please break it down for me??? I think I'm going to do a review on youtube on how well Android handles apps. Isn't this is one of the main reason why users complain about carriers crapware that constantly stays running! Doesn't this fall back on application management????? If we could manage these app correctly would we need to root our phones to remove them?? Hmm?:rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Pre-loaded apps are nothing new. Remember, those apps are just loaded, not running. To reclaim the memory they occupied, it is as simple as just load new apps over the space they occupied. There is nothing to close or unload. How is that not efficient.

Pre-loaded apps aside, please remember, just like your PC, Android also loads a lot of background service apps. Obviously you don't know your Win7 PC that well. If you open Windows task manager, click process tab and press show process from all users button, you will see that you have more than dozen background processing running even if you start clean. How is that any different than Android.

Installed apps don't automatically get loaded. Only frequently used ones. And only a certain number of apps can be pre-loaded. There is big difference between pre-load in memory and running in memory. The pre-loaded apps are not running and there is no additional cost to flush them out of system memory when more memory is needed.

Please remember apps don't run from NAND flash memory (other wise it will be extremely slow). They need to be loaded into RAM and compiled with JIT (rememeber WM runs native codes but Android Apps (majority of them) are java based) before they can be run. This is an extremely expensive operation for the OS. Avoid such unnecessary repeat operations is a good design for modern OS. You have all the memory, why don't use it for your advantage instead of let it unused.

The bottomline is you haven't encountered any case where the phone complains there is not enough memory. So why complain or worry about your free memory usgae?

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That's the most common misconception. Carrier bloatwares in general don't stay running at all. Hence doesn't really contribute to the performance of the system. There are a few exceptions. For example, City ID app will be running all the time so that it can offer caller information to the phone dialer. In most situations, carrier bloatware is more an annoyance than harm. For example, if you search for an address and want to navigate to it, you will often be prompted to chose between the subsription based AT&T Navigator and free Google Nav. If you removed AT&T Navigaor app, you will never be prompted for that.

EDIT: here is a screenshot of my Win7 task mamanger report of physical memory usage. You can see from this picture that my Win7 box has 10GB or memory. 2.45GBs are actually used. But for the left over memory space (7.55GB), about 6GB is used for cache. And only 1.3 GB is free. This is with no front end app running at all.

How is that any different than Android with the exception than you don't have all the details reported by the particular app you use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] klee2000:
By the way thanks for being a lot more patient and breaking it down for me, just was a little frustrated $550 on a phone can go a long way.. lol!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erad1:
Gotta thank Foxbat121 for talking down another jumper! Good job! Lol!

Sent from a phone suffering from an identity crisis!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Apps show up running is either:

1. It is needed for certain system level service features.

2. You didn't close it properly.

For #2, here is the tip for you, use BACK button to back out an app and properly close it. If you use HOME button, it will stay running until Android decides it needs to be flushed out to free up resources.

There is a lot of similarities between WM and Android. One of them is that apps typically don't have close or exit buttons. But on Android, it is much more consistent that:

1. If you use BACK button to exit an app, most app will quit running.

2. Android is more aggressive than WM to stop apps idle at the background after certain amount of time or when more memory is needed.

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No problem. For most WM users, Android should feel right at home. Similarities are:

* you can customize, hack and run custom ROM what ever way you wanted.

* You can pretty much write any kinds of apps with very few restrictions. Multitasking is very similar.

* Unfortunately, Android share the same exact OS update schema as WM (from OS makers->Phone Maker->(carrier)->phone). It took similar amount of delay for a new OS update to roll out to phones you own. The only exception is Google issue updates more frequently than MS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
Have you ever thought that maybe, just MAYBE, the 300 missing ram goes something to called a gpu?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] techntrek:
Mentioned 2 pages back.