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[Eee Pad Transformer General] tsnstuff:
I always thought maybe I was a bit of an android fanboy since I tend to bash apple a lot and talk people into buying android products. But when the new iPad came out I decided to get one because I do a lot of photography (not a professional but I do like it) and with that resolution and all the quick edits I can do with iPhoto I wanted it.

Well at work this friend of mine knew I had gotten it and he came over to check it out. He was asking some questions and I made sure to answer them. Then I was surprised that he said "well you don't seem very excited about it". I guess he was right, I got it for a specific purpose but for everything else I still really prefer my TF101.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Tubular:
The heat issues are a bogus debate created by a bunch of whiners. Tests were done and the iPad 3 is at roughly 30-33 celsius while the iPad 2 was at roughly 28-ish celsius. Does this matter? No. They don't have the same hardware, one will clearly be hotter and better than the other. Is this dangerous? No. The MacBook and iPhone run hotter than this and each of those shows designs where space is constricted to the either end of the spectrum. On the MacBook you have more room and air so the temps might not matter as much but on the iPhone you have much less room and air and an overall denser device than an iPad 3 and it's still hotter than the iPad 3 but people have to ***** about it anyway.

In addition to the fact that those two devices run hotter and nobody cares, none of this changes the fact that the tested heat levels are within acceptable thermal levels. Processors are usually allowed to go WAY UP to 70 celsius or more. 30 celsius spread out on the back of the plastic exterior where we're not even sure how much of that is directly contacting any of the working parts like the proc. or batt. and people are complaining? Give me a break. It's shiny new gadget syndrome, everyone gets it including TF101 owners. Suddenly every tiny issue is a huge one that warrants a nationwide recall. :rolleyes:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rumbleweed:
Might not be an issue for a naked iPad3, but put that puppy in a nice leather case folded over to double thickness on the back play a video game and the insides are getting warm enough to impact the reliability. If it actually turns out to be an issue, Apple will most likely issue a firmware fix to cool it down. BUT as this is more of a mechanical issue than a firmware issue, it will most likely slow down the clock without publicly announcing it.:D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] othar:
now.. there is report of problem with "new ipad" wifi... half power of the ipad2...

antennagate : the return ?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Magnesus:
Well, I will have to buy the new iPad as a developer but I'm not much happy about it. I think Transformer will still be my main tablet. I'm waiting for a A15 Android tablet with Wacom stylus and maybe 1920x1200 resolution until I part with my Transformer for good. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Exnor:
Thas what im doing too.

Also have to buy a iPad3 for my job but the tf is still my favorite.... Apple stuff are overpriced and very over rated.

I think moust people only buy iStuff just to show off...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] error666:
I bought an ipad 2 last week. $350 on sale was too good to pass, so I got it. Played with it for about 2 hours and the next morning took it back and got myself transformer for the same price.

I don't care about the image, or styling, or brands. I just found that ipad is not capable of doing anything that I wanted it to do.

It's basically a tablet for blondes. If all you want is to spend money in itunes and use their content - it will work just fine. If you're not interested in itunes - don't get an ipad.

It doesn't see the file shares, there's no file manager, it doesn't play all the video formats, keyboard is terrible and it's impossible to install a different keyboard, it doesn't work with the book formats that I use, I couldn't even set up a homepage in safari, and the app store asks you for password every 1/2 hour.

Oh, and some of the stuff can be resolved by jailbreaking, but I chose that it just didn't make any sense to start troubleshooting things that work natively on android.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] phoranix:
i didnt buy an ipad today

Verstuurd van mijn Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer General] asdfuogh:
I think the guy talking about how hot processors run in normal Macs forget that you're holding this thing in your hand or something. Anyway, I didn't buy an iPad today either! (I'm Spartacus too?)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] vfragos:


It's 9.7" 4:3 aspect ratio and not 9" and this ratio it's much better for web browsing and ebook reading in portrait mode. In fact i would be happy if transformer had the same screen. Except this i prefer my transformer with a much more capable OS.

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] Eddie Bombay:
Holy sh#t this hackers keyboard is amazing omg.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ssl123:
The Le Pan II was designed with you in mind.

Almost forgot: I didn't buy the new iPad today.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] uiterlix:
I did receive my new iPad today, also having a TF101. I have to admit the iPad is just way more snappy, and a lot less buggy than the transformer has ever been.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Keion:
"HURR DURR THE IPAD IS BETTER IM A TROLL LOL!!!!"

Why do people keep posting this? I wish there was a mass reply button that said "COOL STORY BRO" to all of these people. This is a transformer prime forum. Not a comparison forum. Stuff like that should go into XDA general and stuff about buying in some other part of XDA. There are so many ****posts around here that I just can't believe it. Once again, THIS IS A TRANSFORMER PRIME FORUM. Thank you.

/rant

Sent from my tablet thing with XDA Premium.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] irishtexmex:
I agree. I understand the position that the people who wish to express their dissatisfaction with a product, or to compare it to another, would find this the appropriate forum for such discourse.

But seriously, stroll around some other halo device forums (albeit I concede the title of "halo product" is almost ironic with the Prime given the imminent TF701) and see if they're littered with crappy threads. For the most part? No, they're not. They're where people have discussions about their product that are beneficial

for the community to read

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SOTK:
I completely agree. I posted something similar in the "Why I left my Prime " thread. I could care less why people leave their Prime or why they feel that the iPad is better. One comparison thread here and there is fine but people are starting this conversation in threads off topic or creating multiple thread topics. Enough already. If I wanted to know about the iPad, I'd go elsewhere or read reviews. I don't buy for an instant that the "former Prime" owners are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts to "inform" us. Again, I could care less and this is NOT why I come to a place like this. I come for community and for device specific advice and device specific software. Period. Seriously, don't these "former Prime " owners have something better to do? Apparently not. The iPad must not be that exciting and stellar of a device if they find the need to expend energy and time comparing it to another device which they recently left.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Uberchu:
I think people are just butthurt that they don't have the best tablet anymore.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bluewr:
Well, some of the poster might just be trolls, trying to get a rise out of a situaion

Other might be real people with real grievance.

And the third group, would be paid professional "troll" by competator to slant or share false information to get more sale for their product.

As the TF prime is the flagship for the Nvidia Tegra 3 for the Android platform it's the #1 target for competitor.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Keion:
Popular opinion to ban these posts permanently?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
With apple products the discussion usually resembles a religious discussion. These products mean sooo much more to people than they should.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ickk:
I hate that this forum has turn into a whiner's circlejerk.

like seriously, if all they're going to post about is how they hate the transformer prime and want to return it, then return it and leave this forum. If they can't - then they should have considered that before buying it.

if you're not searching for solutions then quit posting about problems.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] alanboss:
Ditto, every time i log in to the forum its very disheartening to have to wade through tons of negative posts in order to find something interesting. Looking forward to the day it calms down...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] zerodameaon:
Seriously this guy needed to start a thread for that... Boo hoo 1-2% loss means your battery will die in 50 days. I'm sorry your standby isnt a decade.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1557536

People are more inclined to complain on their soapbox then to praise. I love my Prime and don't have any real complaints about it.

EDIT: Returning tomorrow. Just had my first issue, I enabled bluetooth and it killed my WiFi until I disabled it and re-enabled it. That is completely unacceptable. (if you cant tell I'm joking, well join the trolls.)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Eddie Bombay:
I just can't deal with the preassure, ugh.. I'm getting a new iPad. Thanks Prime forum.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smrsxn:
bye bye to everyone who has moved on from prime. good luck. i am sure ur new device will be great!

appreciate, if u dont come back to this forum and spoil it for the ppl who love their primes.

its a win-win situation.!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
I don't think there is anything wrong with havinga thread or two, as for the rest just don't post/respond in them they'll dissapear from the front page quickly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joeyddr:
mods should automatically lock a thread once people start posting stupid like this one
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rytkonen:
I think these TP forums are worst that I have ever seen here. Even the SGS2 forums didnt have this much crap talk about SGS2 vs. iPhone 4S.

I have just ordered my TP and was going to check the forums for something interesting to read. First page of this general section is about iPad or iOS. Dont they have their own forum to discuss about things or what the **** is this?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joeyddr:
yeah not sure wtf is going on, I came from a xoom and those forums on here were filled with quality useful post. Not *****ing and whining from the same 15-20 people filling this whole forum up with bs. Plus you got people just coming in to troll because they don't get laid in the the real world.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
To answer the OPs question, it's because the people who had real issues and posted about them offended the fanbois in here. So the fanbois started a whole bunch of retaliatory posts of why the Prime is so good and how the people with technical problems were just a bunch of whiners.

So now it's come back full circle to where the people who had problems with their Primes make posts and threads mocking the fanbois.

Solution? Ignore all the lame posts and let them sink down the drain into oblivion.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wgr73:
This should tell you something :rolleyes:

I feel bad for people that ASUS has mislead, truthfully. I loved my prime, I loved the design, the idea of everything about it. Then I got it, played with it, tested it and was extremely disappointed. The quality lacks, enough said.

The reason there is so much negativity is because the Prime, as a product, is lacking for something that if done right, could have been a game changer. The game changer is what everyone expected, is what ASUS advertised, and is what did not deliver. I had to sell mine, almost out of principle. I was very upset in doing so, it could've been so much more.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phree1:
I thought that too, but I think what he is saying is that Apple people are upset they don't have the best tablet any more, not prime owners.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joeyddr:
^^

This is an example of someone with a bum unit and is upset... I have had mine 2 months now and wifi is fine screen is fine gps is weak but locks quick (not that i would use a 10.1 inch tablet in my car to navigate lol), if you don't have one anymore why are you in this forum anymore? Not everyone gets a bad device get over it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] faxmonkey:
My thoughts exactly. I actually just bought an ipad 3, but have 45 days to return it at BB if Asus can get the prime squared away. It's a much better value even with the GPS issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nattylite:
I believe this is belong in the Q&A question.

LOL J/K yeah i know right
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] almightywhacko:
Actually I don't mind the comparison posts as long as they are honest. I wish people could keep the comparisons to a single thread though so that they don't clutter the place up.

However I hate the "I sold my Transformer Prime to buy an iPad" posts. These posts are just useless public masturbation. No one really cares about what device you buy or how you spend your money.

Unless you are talking about something specifically related to the Prime it probably doesn't belong on these forums.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CadenH:
I don't even know why people wantto compare them. They are completely different. I don't care about iOS. I bought android for a purpose. People are having issues with their primes, yes, but I don't care that it was returned for an apple product. If I wanted to know "how much cooler the ipad is" I wouldn't be on xda.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Keion:
Not quite. I mean the people who are sayying "HURR DURR IPAD BETTER". The apple fanbois and not the ones for the prime. I don't see many threads that say "PRIME IS MUCH BETTER THAN EVERYTHING". Correct in the solution but stupid ignorants keep posting in the threads which I mentioned previously and bump them indefinitely.

Sent from my tablet thing with XDA Premium.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pyro6128:
I'm not one for heavy moderating, but the mods should step in and clean house. Threads get moved and people get told not to post in the wrong section, but ipad posts (wrong device) are allowed to run rampant. I actually enjoy reading news on the ipad since I like tech news in general. But I come to the transformer prime forum to read about my device, not to listen to people justify their ipad purchases as if anyone actually cared. If I want to read ipad information, I'll go elsewhere.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smrsxn:
prime is awesome. its a gamechanger.

if u don't have it you should not be here in this forum.

PLEASE MOVE ON.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
It's not a gamechanger. Not yet. But has a potential if QC is ramped up massively, both on hw and sw level.

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
I don't seem to recall any XDA policy stating you can't post in a forum that you don't own the device for.

Please supply a link or stop being rude to posters you disagree with.

---------- Post added at 09:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 PM ----------

My bad. Yeah, I'm not fond of that category of folly either.

I guess all we can do is flag them for moderation and hope that if enough of us kick up a fuss they'll lock all the "iPad is better" and "I sold my Prime for an iPad" threads.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Keion:
It's a game changer. Why? Quadcore, ICS, tegra 3, etc. Would you say the first dualcore device wasn't a game changer? No, so why would you say the first quadcore isn't? And quality control, yes I agree we definitely need that. But not on the device but on the forum because of all the ****posts. I also think that the people who exchange are either trolls, corporate or not, or people who just like to rage on anything they can. The people who really have problems number in the tens or barely hundreds.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xGary:
All hardware talk. If there were actaually polished tablet apps that used the hardware then it would be a game changer. No point In having a decacore processor and 8gigs of VRAM if you can only run blown up smartphone apps
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
Again, it had a potential. With good marketing, good QA and stable supply, it could have been THE tablet. Now, as soon as Infinity is out TFP is going to be forgotten about. I haven't seen a single advert in UK about TFP, not even one! So how people would have known about it?

Again, I've been labeled a troll (i understand that it wasn't directed at me personally but still) for not being happy with spending 500 on faulty product and returning it 7 times. I'm on prime no8 now, which is btw going back if .19/.20 doesn't solve reboots, browser freezing, graphical glitches. You cannot simply label people trolls based on amount if times they exchanged their purchase.

Now, Quality Control/Assessment

Do not tell me there is/was no problem. While newer batches are definitely improved, first ones had crap load of faulty units. I didn't spend all that time ordering and returning primes for the sheer pleasure of mine.

And here just to show you what can be found in some primes. To me it looks like someone had a good breakfast and brought some rice onto assembly line. Ignore the dust and have a look at that white grain behind the glass, at the bottom.

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bluefoam:
You are on your 8th Prime!!!??? Just to let you know, under consumer law in most countries, you have reasonable grounds for a refund after returning it once.

Personally, I wouldn't keep going back to them if the situation was that bad. 8 faulty units!!! That sound almost unbelievable... Do you mind me asking if you sent all seven back to ASUS, or whether you just dropped it back to the store? Did they return them to ASUS from there? Why have the shop not questioned why you have gone through so many? Judging by how many you have owned and the time since ASUS release the Prime, I'm fairly impressed that they seem to have a turnaround time of less than two weeks for repair/replacement & that doesn't even allow you much time to test the product.

If I was in a situation, I would have abandoned the Prime a long time ago... ... like, before unit no. 3. Do you give them names?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effezie:
Could you send another pic of the grain of rice under the glass. No offense but it looks to me like that might be on the lens of your camera and not under the glass.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
I'm patient :D it is best tablet on the market for my needs, it is just a matter of finding a good one. Became almost a principle after no 4 or so. :)

All where returned to retailer. I wouldn't touch Asus rma unless I HAVE to. Bought from 4 different retailers to minimize chance of just hitting a bad batch.

No8 is called John, no7 was called Mike, and I forgot the names of the other ones. :D

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bluefoam:
I dispute the fact that a worker in the factory could have managed to bring rice into the workline, dribbled a ricekle onto the components and that the finished product could have gotten through quality control and sent out to the shops...

Realistically it is more likely to be a bit of oatmeal... at least thats what it looks like to me.

OP, as this is your 8th unit & you are potentially aiming for no. 9, I would suggest inspecting the item in-store for foreign objects before heading to the counter... You should be an expert at returns by now.

I'm amazed you were able to get your hands on 8 Primes in the past few months... Most other people seem to be having difficulty getting just one, due to limited (?) stock levels...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
Dispute it or not, but you have a picture, of something that appears to be of organic nature. Quality Control, pffff, do you blame me for not believing that QC is any good after seeing the pic?

I buy online, so inspection is out of question. Only...Only? 3 units had physical defects outside (one had dents on the back, i didn't take pictures, unfortunately, another that under the screen, third had glass coming apart from the frame), others were more to do with internal hardware.

Tell me about Quality Control.

I'll tell you something even more amazing. ALL 8 HAD GPS LOCKING ON SATTELITES.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] benefit14snake:
Please please please PLEASE stop these ipad threads. As the op stated this forum is a toilet. Rave about your prime, ***** about your prime I don't care anymore but please make the ios talk go away. I am surrounded by uninformed apple fan boys everywhere in the world and this is the ONE place I go where I shouldn't have to defend my purchase from ignorance. Is the new IPAD the best thing since sliced bread? Sure you win, your social status is leaps and bounds above anything I could even conceptualize. Now go away!

Edit: I have and will continue to report any and all IPAD comparison threads. You should too.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mattykinsx:
Its the rule about trolling.

If you're in a device forum, you don't own a device, and your purpose of being in that forum is essentially to stir up trouble (which, lets be honest, is usually the case anymore) then you are guilty of trolling.

If you enjoy a product then you would think you'd be out enjoying it (and life itself) instead of coming into a forum for a device in competition with your device and starting threads to stir up trouble.

Too many people have too much time on their hands.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithrandir007:
And it's mostly a few very vocal people who keep writing negative posts.

You said in another thread (where you bashed on the prime and praise the iPad) that you were already long gone from the prime forums.. what exactly are you still doing in almost every thread then?

Do you really need to try so hard to convince yourself and others that you made the right choice by swapping the Prime for an iPad?

Or maybe it wasn't such a great decision after all?

Personally, I'm very happy with my Prime, and would certainly not swap it for an iPad.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] litetaker:
Like, oh my god! What is up with all these people, right? Come on! Move on! You hate the prime? Then sell it, by the iPad and leave this forum quietly... 1 or two forums explaining the short comings of the prime is understandable and also useful to potential buyers as it forewarns them of common issues. But we really don't need every guy who RMA'd the prime, returned it, bought it again from Walmart, or plain wondering if he is the only one with a good unit to post a new post!

Looking at this thread it looks like many people with the prime are happy with their device. So, whiners are requested to leave this forum!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
Gary Key has a link to people talking about ipad Wifi issues in his signature, and he works for Asus. I know, I know, it is to show that the ipad has issues too, not just the Prime. However, it is unprofessional and if the one person sent from Asus in these forums has a link to that with a :rolleyes:next to it, why can't everyone else talk about the ipad too?

He just set the precedent, lol! :D