yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] willusdun:
hi it wouldn't be too much to carry around, consider having a phone and a vita and a laptop? at what cost. you'll still always need at least 2 devices, you phone and another. now you can have all three from one nice looking device and can take each accessory when required. ie all three to a hotel, just the keyboard for working on, just the gamepad when you feel like it. check out the freedom pro keyboard (better than a laptop's) or the phonejoy for a full vita beating experience (comfort wise - wireless on big screen anywhere)

and minimising what we need to carry is the whole point of finding if such a y cable works because then we don't have the added bulk of the Livedock...

thanks for your review of the livedock, even more reason to want that cable! I cant believe there is no grip, i wouldn't have been able to assume that from the Clove videos. its a bit silly that the Xperia P has the new smartdock but because they put our ports on opposite sides we can't use it :p

i noticed the devs have a kernel for ntfs compatibility but i cant use it as i havent even received my sim unlock code from my network let alone finding out if my locked bootloader can be unlocked after this. plus ive just discovered how bad the yellow tint issue is on my phone, so its a bit of a wait for me!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] willusdun:
yeah but i don't think the wireless receiver for the rumblepad takes up as much power as constant reading from and powering a flash drive would. the wireless receiver doesn't need much compared to that and the controller itself has its own battery

nevertheless you could be right in suggesting that the power output is ok as it powers some but not all drives, so if its not power output then there is some other reason for the compatibility issue with each usb device... so we should do a list of what drives work and which dont
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ash_c64:
Hi

just want to know if this will work with the Xperia S

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310371255484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I asked the seller but he says its only compatiable with nokia as it a nokia branded cable but surle all these cable are the same as any generic ones as they use the same connections?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] willusdun:
it looks like this cable will work perfectly fine, just branded and looks pretty nice actually. however id be weary of choosing this when there are right angled micro usbs on some adapters...these are more practical in my opinion after having used my similarly priced generic ebay otg cable and also the standard charger cable that comes with the phone

i bought this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290680019...id=m570.l2736&_nkw=290680019654&_fvi=1&_rdc=1

but if you want your one, here it is for 30p cheaper

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-N..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item4601d26b4b
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ergo14:
I'ts normal usb connected pad :D I'ts NOT wireless at any rate
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] willusdun:
wow confirms the plenty of power theory then, does it rumble and everything all powered by the phone? :eek:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] somemadcaaant:
Understood.

Yeah i'm a huge fan of mobile docks, they screwed us over regarding that i reckon, bad bad port locations...

Sorry to hear about your yellow tint issue, what a pain in the arse, reminds me like some kind of sun damage i've seen on other devices before left on the car dash for an hr.

-smc
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ergo14:
Yes it does, i had to connect it 2 times, at first phone said it takes too much power, but on 2nd time, it worked fine, and yes it did rumble when i pressed vibration button on it ;-)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ash_c64:
I know the right angled ones will be better, but i just love the build quilty of the Nokia one so will probably give it a try.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dragunov:
To anyone interested in OTG cables:

Guys, the Nokia OTG cable works just fine and is VERY good quality and very common anywhere (quite cheap as well).

Tested by me. Already connected my 16GB Ultra Speed Transcend USB drive and works fine.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kazuni:
I've been using OTG since day 1 when i got the unit - like the OP says, the power consumption of the USB port for devices are hit-and-miss.

Some usb drives works great, some consumes too much power and cannot be powered on; so far, my wireless keyboard+touchpad set (rapoo) works great.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ergo14:
One thing, i also got notification about power consumption IF i connected rumble pad directly - it didnt work, BUT i plugged 10$ usb hub first - and then the pad to the hub - phone stopped complaining about power usage.

Hope this helps someone
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Smartphoner:
Compact size

Those r more handy and portable!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Micro-US...ccessories&hash=item1c222da149#ht_2910wt_1219

http://www.ebay.com/itm/From-USA-2x...ables_Cords&hash=item4163506437#ht_500wt_1156
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cholek3:
It helped, thanks a lot for that. I have made a quick video how it works with my Lexar 32GB microSD card and pqi pendrive.

[YOUTUBE]SXvPehEX708[/YOUTUBE]
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kgeorgeg7:
Hey there,

I face some problems with my USB OTG connection.

I have 2 usb sticks, a 128MB and a 2GB.

The 128MB works fine, but the 2GB one does have problem: It says, "USB power consumption error"

"A connected device is using too much power and has been disabled. Please disconnect the device."

Do﻿ you know what's going on?

The 2GB that doesn't work is a Transcend JetFlash 500 2GB (TS2GJF500). Of course the usb stick has no problem to work with computers. Plus, I tried many formats (NTFS FAT(32) etc) but nothing worked (I asume that only FAT formats work but I tried different just to be absolutely sure)...

So why isn't the 2GB working? I was planning to buy a 32GB flash stick, and I wouldn't want it to be unable to be read by the phone...

Please someone help me.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Arabaldo:
Try through a usb hub...it works :-)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kgeorgeg7:
Yes, I know, I read the previous posts, but the usb hub uses a power source other than the 5V rail of the pc. If it doesn't use an other source, and uses the 5V from the pc, that means that if you connect the usb stick to the hub, the whole circuit (hub+usbstick) will draw even more current. I really don't think that would work with a hub that is powered from the usb.

The hubs, that use an other source of energy other than the usb, don't really help me, because for example If I want to read the usb from a site that there will be no power source? What will happen then?

I don't own a hub to test it, but I think what I described above is as it is. If I am mistaken please correct me.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
I have powered hub , 7 port usb 2, works fab !!!!!!!!

only tried to plug in a mouse , a 32 GB stick ( the sd card from my old phone ) and a keyboard .. I stopped at that ..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] DizzyWorm:
Purpose of mouse and keyboard

So with all this talk about plugging mice and keyboards into the phone, I was just wondering what were you to accomplish if you do this?

And whatever the reason is will something like the microsoft keyboard and mouse 3000 that uses bluetrack technology work?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Arabaldo:
I used a usb hub without external power...no problem with usbsticks at all, but if don't use that same hub it does not work :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kgeorgeg7:
Do you have a known-branded hub? or a simple one? Either way, I will go buy 1 and check it myself.

Thanks for your replies ;D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] del1701:
Just thought I'd mention that I plugged in my old usb otg cable from my nokia n8 with a 2gig flash drive and it worked like a charm

Sent from my Xperia S via a quantum leap
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] andress.cz:
usb hub

that is very strange, does anyone know why non-powered usbhub helps eventhough it should have exactly oposite effect? do u think the same thing would work with iPad?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
USB tests done:

full size usb keyboard : works

normal USB mouse : works

2GB flash stick : works

4GB flash stick : works

8GB flash stick : works

16GB flash stick : works

32GB flash stick : FAIL

Via a powered USB hub ( 8 hub ) ( I used my PC's external hub , plugged the other end into my phone ( as opposed to PC )

everything works!... even camera, external HDD's etc etc.. ( one flash HDD at a time )

this is roughly the same as my tablet , only my tablet can read ntfs, but the phone cant ..

shame the 32GB stick ( micro SD ) dont work :(

I have also played music files ( 320k mp3 ) and DVD and xvid via the sticks ( not in the hub ) they play wonderfully!!

HOWEVER !... it kills the battery , which is no real surprise

and cant make the toast ... usb powered heater ??
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Cholek3:
That is a very good question. This must be software related, so I hope it can be solved, i.e. with Cyanogen Mod.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] andress.cz:
but is it actually true? can someone verify that nonpowered usbhub also solves the power consumption problem? my otg cable hasnt arived yet...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] rmk152:
Just bought one of these and it worked perfectly:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
I was using a micro sd card.. So may be due to as stated before, software bug
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
I am using my 32gb sd card on a non powered hub. .. Works fab. . I wonder if ics will fix this bug?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] marcoplo:
i destroy my xp 2003 computer remove my 40 (7200rpm = after test 25mbps) gb harddrive put it in case erase by android so i got a micro media player :D:D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] hdzsound:
does not work at all

I bought a female-to-female convertor (standard USB) who I plug in the phone USB cable.

But, nothing append, no notification at all, when I go in the phone parameters the USB key is not detected.

Tried with 2 differents USB key, 1 external hard drive (with external power), and a USB mouse.

Nothing append at all, one USB key has a LED it does not light.

Does USB OTG need some kind of reversed cable, like in RS232/Ethernet?

phone version: 6.0.A.3.67
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
As long as you have a micro USB to normal USB it should work fine!! I have not found anything that does not work :-)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] zarg2:
You need a Micro-A plug, not a micro-B. Only Micro-A is Host.

I might be wrong with the Xperia S, but it's needed on my Archos tablet.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lmpsq:
I am using a SanDisk 16GB usb stick with FAT32 and it works perfectly :-D , but I tried with a 8GB NTFS and it does not work (I think we need some custom Kernel or some app to enable the NTFS read/write).

I'm using a cheap but good ebay USB OGT cable that I bought form "Techlolly"

I will test more devices soon.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mariolouis:
Standard female to female convertor (standard USB) will not work. It only has 4 pins. Micro USB has 5 pins. You need to break open your micro USB plug and short pin 4 (ID) to ground (black wire) to enable host mode.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] alexoz:
Or buy a usb OTG cable (it's not the same as normal USB cable as mentioned above).
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kazuni:
This is the one I'm using now, very happy with it. I do weekly backups to my USB thumb drive using this (instead of using adb/pc companion/etc).

p.s. I've also connected the Rapoo E2700 Keyboard+Touchpad set, works really well.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Scratchling:
Did not know there was a difference. You my good sir, are a gent.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] xiaopoh:
is there a way just to remove the software limitation for the power consumption error for rooted phone ?

im currently using doomlord's doomkernel.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
Ics
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Scratchling:
Tested a few devices just now:

Connects:

USB Key - Kingston

USB Key - PQI

USB Key - Unknown

Fuji S2950

Fuji S100

Logitech 3d extreme joystick

Wacom Drawing Tablet

Novation Nocturn [If somebody wrote a DAW to work with this it would be so awesome]

Numark Total Control[Same as above]

Xbox360 Webcam

Tevion Wireless Keyboard Receiver

Xbox360 Wifi Receiver Cline

iPod Touch Gen2 - Actually charges!

Trust Travel Mouse(wireless)

Bluetooth dongle

WLAN Dongle

10 Port USB Hub, Generic

HT820 Motorola BT headset (Charges only)

Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse

Wingman Cordless Gamepad(Tested with CS1.6, inputs but bad mapping)

Connects but power issue:

PS3 Controller

Creative Zen Stone

Lexar Card Reader(MicroSD)

Does not connect/Incompatible

Numark DJIO (So soundcards out)

HT820 Motorola BT headset (Charges only)

Of the three cables I bought, 2 Clones one legit nokia, 1 clone and the original work, the other appears DOA.

---------- Post added at 05:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:20 PM ----------

I assume its a hardware issue, you really dont want to pull too much juice from that port, the phone can get that battery up to almost 40*C as is.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] sidneylopsides:
I found that items with a power draw issue work if you connect a USB hub to the phone. I have a £1 four port hub that gets some stuff working when it doesn't directly.

I think the PS3 controller works via that, or a live dock at least. I keep meaning to try mine!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
Yup underpowered hub works wonderful, as long as you don't use any HDD's etc
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] piafinho:
Anyone tried a DVB pen that works in xperia S?

It would be a nice add on for some situations like now on euro 2012 ;)

It seems that this is far from common also on all the other phones :/
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Pruikki:
Use Astro file manager to see USB stick files.

bullet proof 32 Gb class 6-10 speed did not work.

16 Gb did work!

some do ,so others don, main thing is OTG WORKS
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] IzzNarVewalo:
Why it doesn't work to connect the Xperia Mini from a good friend? -.-

just joking.

Verbatim 8gb stick works great.

Noname Headset doesn't work.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] DeeJay00001:
Quick question

Has anyone got ICS and if so has the power consumption error been resolved.

(Able to use all USB OTG devices without a USB hub)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] FenrirMX:
Just tried a Micro SD reader, error still there.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dgattenb:
So ICS did not fix it? I assume your testing with ICS???

If that's the case.. then we have to carry around non powered hubs.. :(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] FenrirMX:
Yes I tried with ICS.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] anthon:
is there a list of USB flash drives or Microsd readers that works directly connected with the Xperia S? I've bought 3 micro sd readers and they don't work. With a HUB they work well but I don't want to carry with it.

I only want a "small" option to connect a 16gb drive to my phone when I need it
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ka3lous:
Does any one tried to use the usb OTG cables with power included?

cgi.ebay.fr/Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Cable-With-USB-power-for-Samsung-S2-i9100-S3-i9300-i9220-9250-/140787406541?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20c79556cd
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] arw9000:
That is just what I am looking for. I have not tried it yet, but I was planning on fixing up something just like this. Paying for a livedock is not something that I intend to do!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kalpas:
GamePad

Did anybody test to connect any gamepad to XS?

usb/bt joystick app does not work on ice cream
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] sidneylopsides:
Yeah, tried a pc gamepad and a ps3 one, no luck.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] LilBlinx:
X360 wired

also and Xbox 360 wired controller is not working. Only the wireless one
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] JoelChrist_:
i use my sixaxiss controller, works like a charm, i play gta 3 and such games.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] sidneylopsides:
It does? Connected how?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] tzaq93:
Is there any way to bypass this "power consumption error" using some software hack?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] warzow:
MicroSD reader OTG

I found a MicroSD Reader supports OTG. Tested in XLive, XNeo, XU and XS. No "power consumption error". 1,25$. Slim.14 days from HK to Spain.

Search in ebay.com: 290627697506

Regards.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] thebeerbaron:
If you're rooted, you need to do something like:

echo 1 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/bConfigurationValue

in the shell. this is on ICS, and the device number (1-1 in this case) may vary depending on what you've plugged in, etc. this will (likely) force the phone to configure the device, even though it doesn't want to. Just remember that forcing the configuration may cause bad things to happen. Don't blame me :)

Diagnosis: if you're in the shell, run dmesg and look for something like this:

<6>[ 2616.849395] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using msm_hsusb_host and address 2
<3>[ 2617.004974] usb 1-1: device XYZ pABC is not supported
<6>[ 2617.005035] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=XYZ, idProduct=ABC
<6>[ 2617.005096] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=A, Product=B, SerialNumber=C
<6>[ 2617.005126] usb 1-1: Product: DexCom Gen4 USB Serial
<6>[ 2617.005187] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: DexCom
<6>[ 2617.020477] usb 1-1: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power
<4>[ 2617.020538] usb 1-1: no configuration chosen from 1 choice

That tells you the what (device 1-1) and the why (insufficient power available)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mrsatan:
Just use a powered usb hub. Makes everything work.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] anthon:
That's only a solution when you are in your house

With the microSD reader posted by Warzow in this page you can use a 32gb microSD connected directly, without having to carry a hub

Enviado desde mi LT26i usando Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lestercute08:
i think it is not the software, but it is in the hardware beacuse i have a flash drive that Xperia U or S says. : (power consumption error) and then i tried it to my Xperia Mini(Rooted with USB OTG Manager for ARC) then my phone Doesnt Recognize the Device it self. it does not mount on my Xperia Mini, but i Have a Flash Drive Working on Both of my 3 Phones. (it is Sandisk Cruzer POP or this Memory Card Reader - http://www.cdrking.com/?mod=products&type=view&sid=11091&main=140).

sorry for my bad english.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dude_creative:
It works and it is the best tip ever for Xperia S otg
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] smsorinxp:
XPERIA S + OTG cable + Printer = ???
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Vaith:
Lol? Maybe you want to connect DVD Player, wash machine and fridge? Use brain...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] nk08:
I'm looking for a microsd reader (from ebay.com) like the one that posted warzow, but the price has raised too much, is there any other that works fine?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Tharun1001:
looking great :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] misterlouis76:
Hi !

Firstly, sorry for the "up", I'm late for about 1 month about this message...

You can use your Xperia S and print with USB OTG cable... It's quite easy with PrinterShare Premium... It's not free, but it works... Better to use PDF or pictures than Word etc. docs, it can help a lot in some cases !
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] vr2008:
I tried this and it's great solution to the problem. but I have a question:

can you tell what kind of bad things may happen with this hack? is it possible to destroy flash disk with this? :confused:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mohnishrocks:
Solution

hey buddy i found a great saolution for this but for that your phone must be rooted and should have ES file explorer or Astro file manager or any other root compatible file manager......just watch this video for solution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZUOEQfFk4 it will surely work. i had same problem on my Xperia SL and now it solved.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] goodintentions:
If you've ever opened up the TF, you'd very quickly realized that there's a lot of unused room in there. I found a 64gb flash drive from walmart for about $60 a piece. Got 3 of these. That gives me almost 200 GB.

I've been doodling with the idea of putting a usb hub inside the TF and then solder these flash drives onto it. Making room for the whole setup is no problem. Like I said, there's a lot of unused space in there. The problem is I don't know how to connect a usb hub inside there for the tablet to recognize it. Any idea guys?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kevhuff:
i have a similar project in the works. i just wonder if we have a limit as to what size (storage) usb drive we use i want to try a usb powered 1tb hard drive...the possibilities would be endless.

one other idea i have no clue of how and if possible. but you know the EXT.(as internal) SD mod, what if we could find a way to do that with the usb storage.think of 1tb of storage("internally")!!!!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] goodintentions:
I've already done what you're talking about. I've already put 500gb, 750gb, and 1T HDD into the docking station while keeping the batteries.

What I'm talking about is putting flash drives inside the TF itself, not the dock.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kevhuff:
yeh but im taking the dock apart and putting it inside like you are saying inside the tab that would better i think you idea is better.

i think both in conjunction would be insane!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] goodintentions:
http://www.androidauthority.com/talented-modder-crams-500gb-hard-drive-into-asus-transformer-25981/
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Goatshocker:
Love the dock mod :) but the images isnt working in the thread :(

But getting the TF to recognize the usb hub should be that complicated.

You'd probably need the usb host adapter (or make one yourself, if possible, idk).

Then it should just be a matter of soldering the adapter to the correct pins on the docking connector.

You might need a switch of some sort to tell the TF when to be host and when to be slave.

I dont own the usb host adapter myself yet, so Im not sure how the TF acts with the adapter connected.

Maybe its still possible to charge and sync even though the adapter is connected.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kevhuff:
Goodintentions your the man you beat me to it ill post some pics when I get myne done
[Eee Pad Transformer General] goodintentions:
OMG, you're going to be like apple aren't you? You're going to get a pattent for it and then you're going to sue me...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kevhuff:
you couldnt pay me enough to be anything like Crapple not a fan of the mainstream overated Os's/products
[Eee Pad Transformer General] goodintentions:
Haha, we'll see.

I've figured out a way to solder in a usb board and connect a hub to it to add those 128gb flash drives. After spending all night going through the plans, I'm abandoning the thought of putting it into the TF itself. I'll be putting those flash drives into the keyboard dock, though. Solid state drives are certainly much better than the spin discs. Let's see, 128gb x 4 = 512gb of flash drive space... won't suck up my battery much and aren't prone to damage due to movement like the HDD.

Stay tuned for the result!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] traumbrecher:
Man, you have balls modding out your dock like that :D I was impressed with your first dock mod of sticking that 500GB hard drive in it. Did you ever go back to that idea with doubling the battery life in the dock? I recall following that thread reading your updates and you got to a point where you said screw it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] goodintentions:
Without people like me who like to push things to their limits, we'd still be writing with hammer and chisel on stone.