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[Android General] mistermentality:
Well thankyou for showing us that you will take advantage of peoples trust and deliberately mislead them with lies just to make money.

I can only hope someone quotes you in one of your sales threads and shows your buyers how honest you are.

Unless you are going to answer any points I have raised in this thread I can see no point in continuing to feed an obvious troll.

Edit: forgot to say that I buy my devices new and from verified sources so I don't fall prey to people like you.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mcord11758:
Once again, as always, if the iPhone is so good why are you on a android forum?

I own an iPhone, and I never go to iPhone forums

Flyer
[Android General] iJimaniac:
Just one more question fwdkiller; how can you watch these videos and say ios is better? Even if he was slightly biased towards android, you can't dispute that he is stating facts that clearly make android better. Meanwhile you have failed to provide any proof he is wrong. You lose. So does ios. Get a life and learn some proper English.

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[Android General] mcord11758:
The only compelling argument I have heard for ios is the ecosystem. If you got started with an ios device it is hard to leave it. They do a good job of interconnecting everything and blocking you from easily using outside services. So if you have an Apple computer and an iPad well I guess you should own an iPhone

Flyer
[Android General] iJimaniac:
That is a good argument, so be sure not to buy any apple products, or they will suck your imagination out! :p

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[Android General] Jeteroll:
Thank you for this so much! Finally somewhere to send the Apple fan boys to show them the truth, even though they will most likely deny it :/.

Anyway, queue the Apple fan boys, angry debates, criticism, and general angry deniers that don't care to look at anything but iOS.
[Android General] orb3000:
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[Android General] WeWearFedoras:
I used an Iphone for almost 2 years before I switched over to Android. Even though I'm running an LG Thrill which has very little dev support and LG/ATT are horrible about releasing current the current OS... it is MUCH better than my experience on Iphone. With that said here's how I see the biggest difference...

The Iphone is better right out of the box. It's much easier to setup and there are less options. The less options give the impression that it doesn't need options and is already optimized for best performance. And updating iOS is really easy and quick. For someone who doesn't care about tweaking and adding customization for their phone... then the iPhone is perfect. For those that want to constantly tinker/mod their devices... Android is the obvious choice.

Androids can and should perform MUCH better than the Iphone because of all the dev work and tweaking ability for their OS. Once you start tweaking it's really hard to imagine going back to an OS that is not as open.
[Android General] Wicked4u2c:
Well said my friend, one thing nobody sees is how much Android has evolved. Look at all the Android versions, it's a big difference. When you compare iOS from day one to now the differences are subtle.

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[Android General] Ianis G. Vasilev:
Generally open-source software is better for advanced users (as are most experienced users on XDA), if Ubuntu (My favorite linux) natively supported portable executables (Wine gives me some problems and ReactOS doesn't really have much native compiled software) and manufacturers made linux drivers many users would not even bother to use Windows (or Mac OS X).
[Android General] apollooff320:
Well the first thing I did when I got an ipad 2 was jailbroke it. Since it is so freaking easy a child could do it compared to rooting. I had my ipad 2 looking just like my Transformer with widgets by downloading a app called dreamboard and another app called Honeypad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghMsPqZA-aA Still get my Android fix and get high quality apps.

dude it doesn't matter what device it is live wall paper makes Android lag. Before I got my Transformer I had a Galaxy Tab and it did the same thing, and so did every Android phone I ever owned even with custom roms. Android apps that look like crap to IOS apps? Big Oven, USA Today, The Weather Channel, ect. The Netflix app is still a laggy pos on all Android devices. I swear my eyes hurt every time I use Netflix on the Transformer. Also I shouldn't even had to name off apps that look like poop in comparison to IOS...if you've been a long time Android user this is a known problem.
[Android General] mcord11758:
So you jail break your iPad to make it like android
[Android General] apollooff320:
no I jailbreak it for other tweaks and mods and to be more open...I made it look like my Transformer because that's what I'm use to, but I get the IOS apps. It's just like ppl here installing themes making their Android phone look like an iphone. I don't just use that theme I use tons of other themes
[Android General] mistermentality:
I've used android for years and honestly only ever had one live wallpaper lag at all and even then only when screenshotting it to high def mp4 so for me live wallpapers don't lag.

As for the apps you mention well I've not used those but certainly apps like facebook and youtube seem to compare fine. But anyway just wanted to say live wallpapers don't always make android lag.

Edit: and pretty sure rooting android is easier as it took me literally one click on an app.

Dave
[Android General] apollooff320:
That's not how it always is. That's actually how IOS is.
[Android General] eroracing:
I am sorry ios just does not compare to android what so ever!
[Android General] mcord11758:
getting back to the actual purpose of the thread/video there are several function of IOS that do not work as well as android. Similar videos can be made in the oposite direction. For my usage patterns IOS is fine for a phone/light web browsing. Past that I prefer android for just about everything. There are 2 fellows who troll every comparison threads repeating themselves. I am guilty of feeding them as well, lets look forward to the next video and move on.
[Android General] mistermentality:
Actually its always been that easy on my phones, as for jailbreaking well I've seen a lot of people say it can be difficult so it can't be that easy for everyone as it has for you.

Dave
[Android General] tlf55:
Nice vid !
[Android General] apollooff320:
All u do is press a button in the software and instructions pop up to hold the home button and power button then done. Rooting for android hasnt all ways been easy and its still not just a one button press as you say. You still have to go into settings

enable USB debugging and depending what software you're using even have to do other crap.
[Android General] HTCinToronto:
So how are you long pressing an address to pop an option to pass to say maps or waze.

Tried the same in-n-out website in chrome beta, dolphin HD and ICS's stock browser and can't get the same long press action. Am I missing a plugin or setting somewhere?

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[Android General] aji_kambas:
wow, nice vid, cant wait the next vid, :D
[Android General] thebobp:
I don't know why people are trying to compare jailbreaking to rooting here; jailbreaking an iphone gives you roughly the same options as stock android, while rooting gives you so much more.

If you have to jailbreak just to get what is roughly stock, there is something wrong with your phone.
[Android General] Stevemotto:
Actually for some android phones, one click is all you need. It depends on your phone.
[Android General] mistermentality:
Seriously have you ever rooted an android? Plug phone in, click button. Job done. It really is that simple. I don't get why you think it isn't.

Usb debugging doesn't have to be enabled as if its not my phone offers to switch it on by one click on my screen so even if I had to enable it that's still just two clicks. Not really hard lol. And that's on a stock lg rom not a custom one.

And since when is jailbreaking an ios device using latest method just two clicks....

www.redmondpie.com/jailbreak-ios-5-...w-0.9.9b5-final-version-howto-video-tutorial/

Seriously? Its more difficult than rooting and it doesn't work on all iphones even if they run identical firmware.

Dave
[Android General] Lloir:
i think he's on about the G1 days, where you had to 1st type on the homescreen then open the terminal app and type commands and hope you didnt typo, this was all before superoneclick etc etc those were the fun days :)
[Android General] Striker333:
I used to have an iPhone 3GS and switched to Blackberry and then to Android a while ago now. I had the "pleasure" of doing a simple time change on an iPod not too long ago and I was there almost 5 minutes just trying to figure out how to change the time. Not easier by any stretch of the imagination.
[Android General] lordofthegnomes:
Excellent Video

Very good video, excellent job of busting the common myths about the android os. I am new to android but I have dived in head first and I find that there is a lot more room to breath with the android os.

In my opinion the best thing about the android os in comparison to ios is the development community that makes it possible to continuously push the boundaries of the hardware but also to stream line it and strip it down to its essentials. The ability to cut out the chaff, now that is a thing of beauty. Thanks for the vid.
[Android General] DJSave:
To add:

with custom launchers you go even further in terms of customization :)
[Android General] thebobp:
That too.
[Android General] apollooff320:
you download redsnow and press the jailbreak button and hold down power and home button. Nothing more. What you are looking at is step to use teather jailbreak which most ppl won't even do. You fail so hard trying to make jailbreaking seem hard when its not.

I had a HTC Hero, HTC EVO, and HTC EVO 3D and did all that with those phones. The one click method Is new and he must not been into the scene long enough to know that.
[Android General] mcord11758:
not all android devices are one click root. For my flyer for example I had to download revolutionary, patch the hboot and sellect to install recovery, then download the su zip for my device and flash it via recovery. I have jail broke Iphones and the process in my eyes is the equivilant of this less one step. Neither are hard to do, and if you struggle to do either you should probably take a step back and read some more.
[Android General] mistermentality:
I've been using android for two or three years and that's not the issue. The issue is how easy rooting is now not in the past. Its easier rooting now than jailbreaking.

I'm not trying to make jailbreaking look easy or hard, it doesn't bother me either way, I am simply explaining that rooting is easier but either way even a jb iphone can't do as much as a non rooted android.

I don't see the problem, if jb iphones is easy then fine but its just as easy if not easier to root too.

Dave
[Android General] mistermentality:
I agree with you, not every phone is one click but my own and many are so can only speak for phones I use or know of.

I'm still unsure why all the above posts about rooting vs jailbreaking have taken over this thread as whichever is easiest doesn't change which one does the most or does things better.

To me both are good systems with good and bad points. I don't think either is best though because neither does everything perfectly.

I think I'm in danger of sounding like another fanboi by going on about how rooting is easier so I will accept that for those ios devices that can be jailbroken its pretty quick too and hope the thread gets back on topic :)

Dave
[Android General] _BA:
thanks for the vid. this kind of work is important to put something against the apple fanboyism...
[Android General] jdsinglebarrel:
I say keep it going. It never hurts to educate people.
[Android General] PurePlaguez:
Now you made me curious about the other short movies :p

Nice to watch, and ill stick with Andriod!
[Android General] SmXtrem:
yes its realy pro video :) i hope you can publish the rest.

I am curious if applefanboys have made such video why apple it best than android in this style?
[Android General] Guru Zeb:
Ok i have been watching this thread with growing dismay and irritation.

I originally decide that i would defo not post but the way this thread has developed,

the balanced rationalist in me just can't let it lay.

Lets get one thing straight right from the start, I love Android, and have despised Apple longer than many posters here have been alive !!!!

So don't come at me with the ultra cheap assed Apple fanboy put down. Am no fan of apple, but what i am is an adult with a background in subjects that demand balanced impartial judgement. Something thats sadly lacking in many of these posts.

Personally IMHO threads and vids like this are pretty pointless, as all they actually achieve is to allow for one set of myopic teen fanboys to accuse another set of myopic teen fanboys of being the wrong kind of fan boy :rolleyes:

I hear a lot of posters talking about Apple fanboys ( yeah Apple has its fanboys doesn't everything these days?) but hardly anyone seems concerned or balanced enough to note the massive Android fanboy convention this thread is.

Let me make this simple fanboyism is unhealthy no matter what the subject is, it is narrow, limited, myopic (short sighted), ill-informed and often arrogant.

So far it seems the best we can do as android aficionado's is replacing Apple fanboyism with Android fanboyism. wow ..... aren't we progressive.

Am also somewhat confused by this idea that we are busting open iOS myths, no one i know tech savvy or utter N00b who owns an Iphone talks about it being lightning fast, highly configurable or massively feature packed. What they do talk about is it being very simple to use, having a shallow learning curve, cool to be seen with (obviously in their opinion) and being pretty unreliable .... lol

My nephew has a new iphone because the shop didn't have any white Androids with good specs when he visited it, no apparently the concept of going to a different shop did not interest him !!!!!!!

I'd call this kind of behaviour pretty standard.

Tech obsessed geeks (of which am defo one ) need to get a grip and realize much like advertisers, financial markets, and political campaigners have ........ that humans are not rational actors and DO NOT make most decisions based on rational objective criteria.

It requires to much pre-knowledge and takes too much mental activity to process.

Thats why iphones will continue to rule the sales and desirability polls, its got little to do with the functionality of the device and way more about having Bono in your adverts.

Good luck altering the course of that Titanic with a 'so what' vid and pretty poor halting dialogue.

My advise ........ GET OVER APPLE ....... it's really not worth the negative energy to get upset about them. I speak from personal experience, i rubbed my hands with glee back in the mid 90's when FINALLY it seemed like apple was reaping what it deserved.

Only for cheap PC components, cheesy advertisements, an odd form or hardware snobbery and consumer cluelessness to reverse the Apple decline ....... we all know what happened after that.

(may contain typos ..... so shoot me )
[Android General] chattyuk:
I'm also having problems on my Galaxy S2 and Xoom
[Android General] thebobp:
You're right (all fanboyism is bad) but you're also wrong, for very similar reasons as to why people who just say "regardless of the climate, don't argue against religions, just let them be" are wrong. (This is not entirely a coincidence.) That is, when a religion is genuinely harmless they may have a point. But when a religion starts to blind society, persecute others, or cause blatant falsities to be spread, I think we do have a reason, or even an obligation, to try to counter it.

This thread is, of course, about the blatant falsities.

The persecution (not a perfect part of this metaphor) would be more apple's attacks on other companies using a broken patent system (you "copied" our "slide-to-unlock" feature; now you must pay), which leads to our money being sent to lawyers rather than to R&D to help benefit us in the future.

The "blinding" is, of course, related to the falsities; you may have heard of apple's "reality distortion field", or just the glamour leading to people making, frankly, ill-thought out choices on their technology. As a society, we want people's choices to be well-thought out, and look beyond the glamour. Thus, any form of education that might make them more considering is a good thing.

In either case, the way to defeat this is the same as for any religion: education. A well-educated populace in general thinks more clearly (even if, like in religion, many only end up rationalizing back to the same thing once again). Now, the OP's may not be the most perfect form of education - you see that in many of the thread suggestions - but it is undeniably helps to correct some misconceptions. This is not a bad thing.
[Android General] matqow:
android is veery good ios bad
[Android General] mistermentality:
Their both good but for different types of people.

Dave
[Android General] votinh:
1. First of all, as I said many times before, Apple do have their fanboys and Android do have their fanboys. Convincing Apple fanboys to love Android devices and trash their own lovable gadgets is simply impossible and that applied exactly the same to Android fanboys, no more no less. Just like BMW lovers keep saying BMW vehicles are better than Mercedes's one regardless of what models, what levels and vice versa. Those fanboys (from both Android and Apple) are just like religious, if they believe God made them, they will repeat God give them birth, not their Mom/Dad. So convincing is wasting time. However ....

2. ...... there are many many people out there who actually can think, want to think, want to find out which good and which bad, they want to know the advantages of this device versus that device so they can decide on their own. Basically they use their own brain to read/view/play/analyze/ and go with what they want. Do they have time to stand in the AT&T store or at BestBuy to collect all of those info in one trip? one day? No, they don't have time. And sometime, they don't even know the features are there or not, they don't know what can be enable and what can just simply be impossible to do. They don't want to just grab one and go home then find out "no, it can't be done with that device". So how do they do? Search, read, ..... and

3. ....... this where the video does help them. To save time for them, to let them know what can be done and what not. Yes, they can see and feel the physical look of those devices but the video shows them what one device can do and the other device can or cannot do.

So, saying the vid is pretty pointless is reckless irresponsible. It does help a lot.

Again, it does help people who able to use their brain, thinking and making their own decision. Yes, it won't help any fanboy.
[Android General] Fatvod:
Android is definitely more friendly to power users but IOS is gorgeous IMO.
[Android General] ninehneh:
most don't care is not entirely right. Most don't even know they have other options other than what is fed by Apple.

Same with PCs. There's still the generation out that that live and die by IE simply because they don't know of any other browsers.

---------- Post added at 10:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:10 AM ----------

i.e. to be more like Android because you have acknowledged that iOS doesn't offer you the flexibility you are looking for.
[Android General] xytherion:
very nice! this really kicks out apple's claims :)
[Android General] ArmorD:
Android is my choice. A year ago, I was another Android fanboy, and hated everything labelled as 'Apple'. Today, I find Apple products rather decent, because I have actually tried iPad and iPhone(did never like Mac though. They're, no doubt, highly overpriced. And Mac OS is not my thing).

I'm not a fan of iPhone, it's such fragile piece of hardware and yet overpriced(and, ugh, 3.5in screen ;) ), but I really like iPad for some reason.

I would pick Prime instead of iPad 3 whatsoever.
[Android General] Wicked4u2c:
**BUMP** Part 2 is now available! Part 3 will be out in a few weeks please subscribe and share with everyone!
[Android General] T__:
Thank you for informing me of part 2!

It is even better than part 1; keep them coming :)

We need to get the point across to iOS fans that Android offers so much more; yes iOS is nice; but they are far to limited.
[Android General] MissionImprobable:
It's amazing that I don't even think about all these everyday features that I just take for granted. Nice addition, looking forward to part 3.
[Android General] k_t_b:
I generally appreciate Android more than iOS devices, but...

15 seconds? Hehe.

EDIT: nevermind
[Android General] DJSave:
Take that Apple No2!! :D

To me iOS is like what apple likes, not the user but Apple itself

Nice part 2, keep it up! Shared on my FB with iOS friends :D
[Android General] Shano56:
awesome video..part 2!

but i have one problem, you flashing all these sexy phones makes me jealous D:< i'm still rockin my MT3G xD
[Android General] spiritofcat:
Nice video series. You make a lot of good points.

At the end of part 2 you said that you think the iPad is the best tablet. Are you going to do a video explaining why that is? In part 1 you seemed to think Android tabelts were better.
[Android General] Guru Zeb:
Humour centres .... suffering massive .. overload due to ... KRAKEN babie's semiotic memetic viral attack ... laughing too ..... much .... heart rate failing ... darkness closing in ... last request ... please no more KRAKEN baby ... too ... funny .... to ......... endure :eek:
[Android General] apollooff320:
Makes no freaking sense because tablets are big cell phones with out the phone. I love my iPad way more then my Transformer only cuz the apps stink on Android Tablets.
[Android General] mcord11758:
the only reason to like an Ipad more than and android tablet is becasue android did a poor job releasing honeycomb and basically moved on without fixing it. Can't blame the people who develop apps for not wantig to spend too much time on making apps for it because in another coupld months it will be irrelevant.

for me, as always, no flash in browser= not worth the money. And I have to agree with the second video in the sense that many ios apps are lacking in features compared to android counter parts. several apps I use frequently such as youtube and drop box are useless to me on my iphone
[Android General] apollooff320:
The no flash on iOS is getting old. Just download iswifter or a browser that supports flash in the app store. I watched WrestleMania on my iPad last night. Hell cant use flash excuse since mobile support is gone for it now. Hell even battery swapping pis fading with manufactures releasing sealed phones now.
[Android General] mistermentality:
To be fair flash is not natively supported on ios and while third party apps enable it they still do not allow all flash sites games etc to be used.

And there are plenty of androids with removable batteries still being brought out. Though removable battery has nothing to do with the os itself.

Dave
[Android General] apollooff320:
You point me to a site photon or iswifter can't use both these play every flash game site I throw at it.