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[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] mad_presley:
Really don`t understand you guys. You got the tiniest super amoled with 3G and best battery performance tablet, that can cover all your business and entertainment needs even with HC 3.2. Why are you so rush for ICS if it`s not completely stable with 7.7.

What I like in SGT is when they update their tablets software, they do it with less bugs than the others. So be patient and we will have our stable ICS instead of buggy ICS other devices got before us.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] miiike:
I want ICS because that is when developers will really start to work with them and maybe figure out calling and SMS for the vzw version.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Kaiser Wilhelm II:
I'm in two minds about this issue.

As it stands, the hardware is brilliant. Almost certainly still the best tablet on the market even with the latest quad core machines. But it's annoying to see el cheapo tablets get the latest ics off the bat.

Definitely Honeycomb is less than perfect but it runs acceptably if less than as well as it should on this hardware.

I figure that I can wait if that means a really well done implementation of ics. Samsung really should be more communicative given that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is a premium product though...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jonkrav:
I was ready to buy the 7.7 this weekend but having read about the slight lag with honeycomb/touchwiz and no date given for ICS I feel Samsung have kind of forgotten about this tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maysider:
stop talking about Apple.....if Android goes the same way, the innovations would stop, so bless Android you still have significant innovations in contrast to frozen iOS which is now everything copying from Android ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jaevlar:
According to a Q&A with Samsung posted the 16th of May i found some info regarding ICS for the 7.7. Don't know how accurate the information is.

Quick "translation" for you guys.

Q: Hello, what's the current progress for ICS for the Galaxy Tab 7.7? It's been promised for a long time but no releasedate has been set. (Samsung Sweden @ Facebook).

A:Hi! We aim to have it ready during Q3, furthermore information is unfortunately not available right now!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] xuqi:
I love my tablet, but it does have bugs. Ever tried reading a large PDF. I do quite often, and get horrible graphic's breakup.

The web browser is somewhat unstable too.

I have ICS on my SGS2, and don't suffer the same PDF issue.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] mad_presley:
Had same problems after rooted my 7.7. Flashed original room back and everything is ok.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] thommygay24:
I have the same problems.stock ROM has bugs in stock browser. No root is no option because of some apps demand rooted device.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ekinnee:
Anybody see this about CM9 for the 10.1 and 10.1v?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...y-tab-10-1-verizon-wifi-3g-unlocked-and-10-1v
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
Is there ICS source for 10.1?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] haovh_85:
All galaxy notes were updated. Hope the next will be galaxy tab.:D
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maysider:
from US Samsung

"

Charlie : I do understand your concern. I would have surely provided the information if I had it. We do not have the exact date for the update. The update will be coming for the device.

"

so this we know......not any Samsung tablet again......just Nexus

but you know them - they put inferior HW into Nexus (like Galaxy nexus=we have just 16GB!!) and the best will have SGS3 or so....

do the same here :)

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/ow...SCH-I815LSAVZW
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Manuele83:
I really hope in a fast upgrade.

I have a galaxy tab 7.0 with the last official CM9 nightly and it works better than that 7.7 tab...and it has no hardware comparing to the new 7.7...

Please samsung :(
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] wathefak:
Perhaps it will come out soon enough.. Samsung releases ics kernel source and already available for unlocked gnote.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
I purchased mine on the weekend and am regretting it just as little. I miss ICS from my Touchpad. Also cannot use Chrome. Samsung is hopeless and should release a better timetable and more precise dates. Look at SE and how they have embraced developers and let out Alpha releases etc.

The Toshiba Excite 7.7 is starting to look like a better product. Better specs, same screen, Gorilla Glass, MICRO USB and STOCK ICS...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] kable:
Cool Story,

Let me know when it can make phone calls and I will have a look.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
Why does a TABLET need to make phone calls? Is that not what a phone is for?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Why the hell not? It's pretty darn cool that you can use the 7.7 (6800) for regular voice calls.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] irmani:
i am 100% agree with you and I've got HP touchpad with ICS
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bdroc:
Wins what? How does Apple have anything to do with anything at all in this situation? And who is being shafted? Any item you buy, you buy it as is. It isn't Samsung's problem that you aren't getting what you expected the product to eventually be.

This tablet has 2 features that people should be interested in, the screen and the battery life. It is aimed at avid media consumers and ICS adds zero functionality to video, book, music, or game playback. This is the same old dance that happens with every device known to man. People freak about a lack of updates, it gets updated, people are happy (or disappointed), and then indifferent, and then they start complaining about the next "missing" update. This even happens on forums for heavily supported devices like the original EVO 4G.

People seem to put so much weight on the home screen lag. Why? How does it affect the user experience in any way? Apps, games, and media run perfectly. I guess I just use my tablet for more than shuffling between home screens. IDK.

I wish people would just enjoy the best, prettiest, and best-built tablet on the market. All of those being subjective opinions, of course. ICS will come, but until then just enjoy the damn thing.

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If they were released the same day, I would go with the Excite. But it's been a third of a year...a lifetime in cutting edge tech.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
Because Apple know how to roll out updates. The source code for ICS has been out for months already. HC does lag and not as smooth and the menu bar does not disappear needing a third party utility to make it disappear unlike ICS.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] freakboy13:
Afaik this is not true the att note is still waiting for the ota

sent from my hoXl

got a-Dev ?

www.android-dev.us
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maysider:
do you mean how to roll out update with almost no change and with problems with battery, signal, security ... on just 2 phones? :)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] miiike:
Because always carrying around two devices sucks. Sure I want my phone over a tablet when I go to sporting events, concerts, bars etc, but at a buddies house? Why do I need to bring two devices when having just the tablet would suffice?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
Except they release fixes and do not take MONTHS AND MONTHS to roll out updates. ICS source was released in November 2011. It's almost June 2012...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] hudl:
Apple wins in customer satisfaction (although I won't buy any iDevices...).

Satisfaction is not only about fixing bugs or providing updates. It's how you communicate with your customers and give them what they are asking for.

World has changed nowadays and customers are demanding more now than in previous times. And that's perfectly OK - companies grow with the demands of their customers. Otherwise we would stick with wired phones and are oh so happy that it has this beautiful cable. It's your choice to stick with HC even when ICS is out. But let people demand something Samsung has already promised. HC does not only have lags, but there are FCs and other problems with it (read the forum to get an idea). And for my part this IS user experience. A stable softare is the minimum users can ask for.

This tablet isn't the best tablet on the market - well, maybe it could be, but it is not in it's current state. It's not only hardware. Power without control, you know...

It would be a nice move from Samsung if they would release a community version without TW and let the (experienced) users decide what to install. This would be satisfying and would show that Samsung cares for their customers, wouldn't it?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bdroc:
I stated that 'best' is my subjective opinion...and there is no other tablet that I even consider at this moment.

As far as customer satisfaction...It's bad business. There are only a handful of people who purchased the Galaxy Tab 7.7 (relative to other devices) and it costs money to develop for and support a device. If there were as many Tab users as iPad users, we would see upgrades much faster. Also, it takes people. Samsung has a dozen devices that they are upgrading, so I doubt we are first in their queue. There are few of us as is, and even fewer who actually care about ICS. I have no doubt that ICS will come, but HC is not bad by any stretch of the imagination, it's just not IDEAL. Samsung, or any company, will 'care' for it's customers as long as their income chart stays in the black. Even if ICS was never released for us, they would only piss off a tiny consumer base, which is more than worth it to them to save some money.

The world has not changed, business is the same as it's always been, just now there are forums, e-mail, and comment boards where people can express their dissatisfaction more readily. Technological improvements don't come from customer complaints and demands, but rather competition leading to innovation.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] hudl:
Following your arguments, I will never buy a Samsung device again...;)

Of course it's all about the money. But giving good support and satisfy people will convince more to buy their products. And making customers happy, they will buy from them again - maybe next year, maybe in 3 years. But they will come back and remember the support.

Currently it's like you said, "bad business"...

Edit: according technological improvements - look at the first iPhone. It was technologically inferior, but had a huge success. So, you see that demands and satisfaction of people also push development. Maybe even further than technology itself. See the Nokia 40mPixel phone. No success so far...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maysider:
what do you need to fix? any problem?

I'm talking about innovations ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Font

I could care less about ICS, but appears only way to get a system font that handles all that is readable. My 7.7 works great, rooted, use Go launcher and overclocked to 1.6, extremely fast. I have no complaints nor problems, and the screen really is awesome, just please fix the font size Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Neogrin:
Why does a PHONE need to take pictures? Is that not what a Camera is for?

Why does a PHONE need to run Apps? Is that not what a Computer is for?

Dur :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sman55:
I agree, it's the only thing that makes this tablet hard to live with - the small fonts that is.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] plastikuss:
It seems that Samsung does not use the products they make, so they dont bother...maybe they use Ipads at home :-)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Mister_Mxyzptlk:
AAAAAGGHHHHHH! I WANT ICS ON MY 6810!!!

Okay. Now I've got that out of my system. I've been sitting around since November reading ICS release threads and haven't made so much as a single post. Now that my Note has an official ICS release, I thought I should go ahead and jump on the bandwagon. I'm totally ready for ICS on this thing!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] trustme_:
its a long wait :(
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] skeeterpro:
There's even a new word to describe our toys..."phablets" :/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] yMiNg:
just hope that the ICS upgrade will not remain the current TouchWiz 4 UI.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] NeutronBomb:
As someone who owned a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and a Xoom both I've seen how big a difference ICS makes on these tablets. It was like night and day on both tablets. I can only imagine how smooth ICS will run on this tablet. I'm talking about CM9 or AOKP though.. I've seen Touchwhizzed ICS on the gtab 2 and while I'm sure it'll be an improvement over honeycomb it won't be as huge a step up.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
We want ICS source more than the upgrade. Pure ICS will be so good!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] dcervi:
When will ICS come?

TOO LATE!

C'mon Samsung guys, give us a beta with source at least, or this fabulous tablet will be outdated by the time it has the OS it deserves. Honeycomb is a total fail in terms of performance...

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[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] speedofheat:
How about we 7.7 owners raise some cash for a dev bounty for porting CM9 to this tablet?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] mengpo:
That's a the idea they did for the b&n nook tablet :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1601265

it was a great moment there ;)

The problem for us is that the 7.7 is far more expensive than the nook tablet and we have to find the dev(s) who could accept this task...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maysider:
it is really useless......with CM9 we wont have any support of many apps and mainly games :(

better to have laggy 3.2 than 4.0 without proper apps
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] mengpo:
That's true but that was for people who need to get ics... Afaik, i got no problem with ics on my galaxy SII but i don't play so...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] thommygay24:
What about starting an online ipetition to force the demand for ics update for the galaxy tabs and to show how disappointed many people are with the Samsung product support?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] mengpo:
Why not, but does it really work ? :(
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] thommygay24:
Online Petition

That was the way HTC was convinced to reunlock their bootloaders.

I now have started a petition to collect users demanding an ICS-update for Galaxy Tabs 10.1, Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7, Tab 7.0 Plus including source code now.

The link is as followed:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ics-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Ciddy:
The lack of ICS is the main hold-up for me to not buy a Galaxy Tab 7.7. Once ICS is out, I'll get it. Never again will I pay for a device with a feature promised yet hithereto undelivered. And I actually do really want one!

But since seeing the huge leap in performance between HC and ICS on the Asus Transformer Prime, I will not suffer another device running HC again.

BTW why not promote the petition with a thread? If that complies with forum rules of course...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] HPClean:
Just sign on the petition. It's an excellent idea !
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] boelze:
Signed petition right now. Promote this if possible would be very helpful I think. 500 signs are a lot. By the way 51 signs are there at the moment.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] junta_mpb:
Signed.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] wathefak:
do you think the petition would make any difference?

Well, we'll see..

Signed.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maysider:
if you resign the world dies......and is dying because you resigned ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] speedofheat:
Signed.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maysider:
signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Super-S:
yup... signed! ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] rednud:
signed!

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[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jeffry82:
signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Astrix Ashburn:
Signed

Yeah..the more the merrier
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TBarb169:
Signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] pinsb:
".......We Demand....."

On principal if I was the guy responsible in Samsung I wouldn't release anything to people using that terminology.

Samsung said that they would release ICS in 2nd Quarter 2012, that means they have till the end of June.

I don't like it, you obviously don't like it but making demands using such injudicious phraseology is, if anything, likely to be counterproductive.

While you're waiting you may want to read this....

http://www.businessweek.com/managing/content/jun2009/ca20090619_923770.htm
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] erobot:
ThinkPad Tablet Android 4.0 update rolling out in some regions

whare is ics for the galaxy tab 7.7?

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/25/3...ndroid-4-0-update-rolling-out-in-some-regions
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Wow that just blows, man dont know what Samsung is waiting for.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] drlogan714:
Signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Yamanx:
Signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] golden422:
Signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
I think if everyone who signed donated usd$20 to a development fund and were to get devs 3-5 devices we could get a fresh AOSPv4 ported directly for this device.

The nook link is an exciting read.

Sent from my GT-P6800
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] gingerdude:
+1
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] odessa2:
signed, although i don't think it will have any effect :/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] mengpo:
that's what I think...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Josvaz:
Agree would galdly donate ^^
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] matsuru:
signed.

Gave me a shock when i reached donation page. Thought i need to donate.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Dust2Dust:
signed

Signed for wat it's worth.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Gaugerer:
I think once Samsung have finished updating the S2 and the Note to ICS then tablets will be next and the 7.7 should get the update in Q2 by the end of June.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] furius:
there was an attempt to do something like this but ended in nothing :mad:

here is the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24180660&postcount=9

In the same thread I also suggested a poll to estimate the amount we could reach ...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24180660&postcount=18

Unfortunately I think this fantastic device has very low popularity specially between developers, maybe because of the price or because it arrived in US too late and only with Verizon ... :confused:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] speedofheat:
Still 217 signatures to go.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] SilverJDM:
Signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] wujae:
Signed.

And patiently twiddling thumbs for the upgrade. (My SGS2 became a better device with LPF, my 7th ROM. Am hoping the power of the 7.7 is unleashed. Right now, it is so-so)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] murmur70:
Do we really need to have everyone who signs the petition comment about it here? I keep coming to this thread thinking there might be something new and all I see is "signed." Waste of my time.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
I self-immolated in front of Samsung HQ in Seoul. That's dedication to the cause. Poop on your little petition!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] boelze:
Lol nice!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bdroc:
Lol... That would be against the definition of donate

Petition or not.... The ICS update will come... Maybe not for the verizon one... Samsung is notoriously bad with timely updates... This is not news... All that is needed now is patience... They have a dozen devices to update and ours is not high on the list
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] safir187:
signed
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Aside from the Note thE 7.7 tab SHOULD be high on their list, no excuses. I came from the original tsb and i thought with the 7.7 bring a superior tab it would be a priority, but no they decide to release new products and have them come out with ICS. Regardles still love the tab and patiently waiting.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] zarzarwan:
chameleon launcher

While waiting for ICS, why dont we look at on very nice chameleon launcher (instead of laggy TW) & hope it will release very2 soon (especially for becker)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] HPClean:
I think the most important thing to do is to focus on a probably migration to the next release of Android (5.0) for the Galaxy Tab 7.7 with the same system like for the Nook as say furius

ICS certainly come to Galaxy Tab 7.7 this summer from Samsung
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Android 5 for the 7.7? Well, only if there are some really devoted developers. Otherwise, don't hold your breath.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
It should get v5. The Toshiba Excite 7.7 is being released with ICS and I dare say will be upgraded to v5. Samsung would look bad. Not that they care.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bdroc:
Unfortunately, its not specs and quality that make a device high priority, its sales. The note sold very well. This, not as well. I'm with you and the loving and waiting... No other tablet comes close in my opinion...the size and screen are essential... And the only competitor is the toshiba excite 7.7 which isnt even out yet.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] wagnus:
Ive waited for so many months, when will it come?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
Never.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
A recent leak of the nexus tablet shows that it won't be a android 5 but 4.1 which is jelly bean.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/android-4-1-jellybean-looks-set-to-debut-on-googles-nexus-7-tablet/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] MacZzang:
So lets say we did get the ICS update will that help devs built ICS custom roms?:confused:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Astrix Ashburn:
Now still 168 signatures to go
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
Its getting there! Not bad for a few days work. What happens when we reach 500?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] miiike:
Nothing. It's an online petition.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] thommygay24:
online Petition

I ve started the petition and set the goal to 500. I will contact Samsung and local media to do so too in the next days and ask for a current statement for an update. I will give a hint that hundreds of people are waiting for an update too (see online petition).

Feel free to do so too.

As far as I will get an answer, I will post it here.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Sorry, what do you mean by "local media"? I don't know how your local news is going to help at all. If you want to make some halfway meaningful noise, why not just pester the hell out of the various regional Samsung accounts on Twitter and Facebook?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] thommygay24:
In my opinion it makes a difference if only I will contact Samsung on my own or for e.g. CNET,heise or chip.de.if you know computer or tablet magazines you may contact them too so that they contact Samsung too.I have neither Facebook nor twitter account, but if anyone will contact Samsung via twitter our Facebook I think this is no bad idea

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I am trying to show Samsung that more people are disappointed by the Samsung support.

Maybe they will recognize that good product support is as important as good specs of new hardware....

Doing nothing means to accept all and to change nothing I think.

I hope that we all together will make Samsung to think about better support.

The more people who express their disappointment maybe the more Samsung will realize this.

This is my opinion and I hope we will have an update soon.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] UrbanConquest:
Not to be the bad guy and granted I would like to see ICS on the 7.7 as much as the rest of us, but do you people realize how many Android devices Samsung is constantly working on software wise? Not to mention the R&D for new devices like the SGS III? Which devices do you think deserve priority? It's a vicious cycle is what I'm getting at. Patience is a must.

I don't see why this thread has new posts in it everyday. Yes, I do realize the 7.7 has been out like 6 months or so. There really have been no significant news related developments on the potential release of ICS for our product. It's just a waiting game - No offense, but there are other things to enjoy in life. I waited 6 months for the first and only update to the Galaxy Nexus which I just got yesterday. The update didn't make me happier in anyway and I know there are always advances in technology (hardware & software) that I will be desiring of or potentially need (bug fixes).

Sigh at first world problems.

Online petitions, seriously?