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[Android General] fwdkiller:
In the root world itll never accomplish what cydia does , android doesnt have saurik and geohot .also alot more developers in cydia who writes there own apps not take apps from different phones and change a few scripts and call it a rom thats not developeing just imagine if developers move on to android from ios. If i really wanted to i can do the same stuff as android developers but i dont have time.i rather have a iphone lock down and once i jailbreak it i can see what real developement is although droid is a little open source it still cant do what a jailbroken can do. Theres like 2,000,000 apps in cydia in android root world you have to dig deep in xda or google search what u need and theres not muchbin xda except custom roms thats about it or how to root your device.

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[Android General] shayonpal:
Just for your information, most apps available on Cydia are illegal.
[Android General] 85gallon:
Not sure if this point is relevant to the conversation! :p

Does an iPhone allow you to install apps from anywhere but the official app store without hacking (jailbreaking) it? No. :(

Does and Android phone allow you to install apps from anywhere but the official app store without hacking (rooting) it? Yes! ;)
[Android General] shayonpal:
That was a reply to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28247422
[Android General] fwdkiller:
I dont condone piracy so off to another subject im talking about tweaks and apps thats not available to android.installous is considered piracy off to that note atleast those apps still work most apps on android either u need a new phone or software to run it. I wanted to keep an old facebook app but it force me to update not on ios it stays the same without need to update.

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[Android General] fwdkiller:
In the end i like both but im opened minded i bet 70percent of people on xda pirated tapatalk app not me i paid my $4.99 .

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[Android General] shayonpal:
I wonder what you mean by "forced". Android does remind you to update it, but you can always ignore and keep using the old app. Moreover, if you upgrade it and don't like it, you can use Titanium Backup, or an external apk, to go back to it.

And mine is paid too. Is it a big deal?
[Android General] imtoomuch:
All I can do after reading that is laugh! Not only are you biased and wrong, but you can't even construct a proper sentence!
[Android General] mistermentality:
I really don't know what you expect me to say as if I can use all my storage just as easily as your iphone only I'm not restricted by apples 2 gigabyte size limit so if anything android is better in that respect.

I've had high def 3D movies bigger than two gig on my sd no problem and can move my apps just fine so all I can do in reply to your post is reiterate these are not android issues specifically.

Are these issues to do with the phone in your sig from ebay? If so have you considered it was messed about with by previous owner and that this is why it was on ebay?

Your phone is limited to four gig, not two, per file due to using the fat file system which incidentally iphone also uses so has same physical limit on file size so I can't explain how your android has those issues.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] zanderman112:
Oh, you're a saint. And an idiot at that. I haven't been able to understand any of your posts, as you seem to lack all grammatical skills.

If you think an iPhone is better than Android, fine. It up to you to ignore the fact that he proved iOS' faults. But don't come over to an Android forum and be a iFanboy.

Fwiw, I purchased Tapatalk too, but NO ONE cares. Most people use the free XDA app anyways.
[Android General] virus786:
Lol.

This chap is such a troll.

iFags.

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[Android General] mistermentality:
First I have to say there are not two million apps on cydia.

Second a jb iphone really cannot do everything android can. Case in point is Tasker, something iphone users in forums have said would be great but is not possible.

Third, cydia are apps and tweaks so how are those superior to the apps and tweaks android users put into roms?

Fourth, Saurik not only attends google io conferences and works with google developers but is working on substrate for android which he plans to become the android cydia.

Please see http://9to5google.com/2011/05/10/saurik-dont-hold-your-breath-for-an-android-cydia-store/ and http://www.pcworld.com/article/2512..._creator_of_cydia_for_jailbroken_iphones.html to read more about his android connections.

I would like to ask you to please give an example or two of something a jb iphone can do that android cannot. If there are any notable things it would be interesting to know what they are and it will help to confirm your suggestion regarding iphones superiority for development.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] fwdkiller:
No not really most android users dont pay for apps and ios does remind u theres an update for it. when droid auto updates it self for no reason at all. some apps u need to update it to use it , i dont really care it seems android sheep boast what they can do on their phones and i say what customs and tether is that it "well we have custom firmware and tetherme and bunch of other stuff on cydia". Custom roms ,launchers, and yes i can change the color of my battery meter horay for me lmao:what:.

Ios user : custom firmware, custom carrier logo ,battery meter color change,screen launchers, dual boot to android,live wallpaper ,go past 9 homescreens without crashing, folders,tethering,cydia, winterboard, free ringtones,iblacklist,tomtom gps,better battery life , it fits in my pants,no lag,no random reboot , we have safe mode,more storage, 2,000,000 apps, and everyone has one i cam go on and on about it:cool:

Android user : damn all we have is custom roms and stupid launcher oh yeah i got a fish gallery as my live wallpaper and i stare at that all day until my battery dies.

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[Android General] mistermentality:
Installing apps from non google store is not piracy, also you do realise android does not force you to update apps I hope?

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] fwdkiller:
1 .carrier name change, 2 copy and past in apps not limited to mobile web browers and 3 unlimited home screens.

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[Android General] shayonpal:
Seriously, you need TomTom GPS in the land of Google Maps? Oh sorry, I forgot, Apple doesn't bundle it GMaps any more. Too bad.

As for the rest, I think either you or me need another detailed English lesson to understand exactly what you wanted to say.
[Android General] fwdkiller:
Dont bash on ios ,on our forums we dont talk crap about android its about respect .every post in android forum ios always pops up , and people talk smack about it. If android company so good why the hell release 20 phones a months when nothing in them really changes except a name change .release one phone a year lets see how well android phones do,every month a new iphone killer is release tell me why iphone is still alive and every one still hanging on to the 3g and 3gs.do u still see people with the g1 or the original droid ? There on ebay for 15 to 25 bucks used lol 3g ,3gs still goes around 125 to 250.

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[Android General] shayonpal:
1. I wonder, why would someone care about "carrier name change"?

2. When was the last time Android stopped you from copying and pasting content in apps? I can very easily copy and paste content, here, in Tapatalk.

3. You're talking about "home screens" in an iPhone? Now I wonder if you even used an iPhone before.
[Android General] shayonpal:
"Android Company"? Seriously?

And well, the beauty of Android is choice, buddy. Doesn't matter whether you can spend $50 or $499, you have a phone to suit your needs. Not in the case of iPhone.

"Oh, 8MP camera not enough for you? Too bad, that's all you're gonna get."

By the way, in a land sans carrier contracts (example, India) an iPhone costs anything between $600 and $900. Think about paying that much in your country, and the first phone you'll pick up is an Android!
[Android General] shayonpal:
Good morning! Even Google Maps doesn't need data anymore.

Sucker Punch!
[Android General] fwdkiller:
What ever im saying i like both i just like ios better if u have a problem with that than i don't know what to say.

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[Android General] fwdkiller:
Sorry but google maps still needs data poor guy ,without it gps is off even my ipad 3g+wifi does it better than google maps oh wait it got sucker punched by tomtom.

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[Android General] shayonpal:
I have no problem with you liking iOS more, mate. I just have a problem with misconstrued facts. That is all.
[Android General] fwdkiller:
Anyways people have a safe 4th of july im out. im tired of aguing.

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[Android General] shayonpal:
Why don't you understand this fact? GPS does not need data connections to work. And that goes for all devices.

And as for Google Maps, you need one time connection just to download the map, same as TomTom, or any other mapping application out there.
[Android General] fwdkiller:
Tomtom has maps preinstalled google doesnt it uses data and asisted gps u understand that part.i tried it the other day tested it against my iphone and guess what tomtom won.itll lose signal if u have no bars asisted gps vs gps chip is different gps chip relies on the map and satilite.google requires data ,partial data and then the map go . Try it out without data with google maps youll see what i mean and turn off in airplane mode buddy.:p

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[Android General] fwdkiller:
I meant partial gps

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[Android General] Nobodys_me:
Guys just don't bother anymore. This dude is just here to argue

I mean yeah he is saying that he likes both systems but basically he's just trying to tell us that iOS is SOO much better then Android.

Homescreens on an iPhone? Its more like appdrawer pages and as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) we can have more then 9 pages in the appdrawer too...

But whatever there is no point of arguing here anymore. I think you made your point clear and I / We respect that.

Go buy yourself an iPhone and be happy with it.

Nobody
[Android General] fwdkiller:
Im talking about homescreen pages where your apps are lol i wonder if u even held an iphone before .

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[Android General] mistermentality:
Ok so despite you calling all android users sheep yet you disliking people calling iphone fans the same (little hypocrisy there) I will address your points.

First off, android users do buy apps so your generalising is mistaken. We tend to buy less apps as we have lots of free alternatives but we do buy apps.

Second, android does not force you to update apps or else not be able to use them. I'm still using older version of facebook and a few other apps, I couldn't do that if you were correct about updating.

You laugh at android saying about cosmetic tweaks yet in same sentence boast about iphones cosmetic tweaks like carrier name change.

Third, your list of ios benefits is mainly cosmetic tweaks and apps but lets address some anyway....

Tomtom...coming to android apparently anyway but we have better apps such as sygic, copilot and of course googles own sat nav software. Think android wins there.

Nine homescreens on ios, well android has at least one launcher that allows seven but to be honest I consider this cosmetic. Iphone needs lots but android doesn't, we have a seperate app drawer.

Folders and tethering both on android too.

Random reboot is not an issue, never happens to any android user I know.

Free ringtones and a blacklist app. Well we have these too.

Better battery life? There are android phones that outperform iphone so your mistaken on that.

So aside from a few cosmetic tweaks and a few apps which android has versions of what is it you can do that android can't?

How about I give you some things we can do with android and see if you can do them?

1. Change default apps to what we choose

2. Full system automation (tasker)

3. Real widgets (not just cydia tweak that lets you put notification areas widgets on main screen)

Android can do all with no root needed. Can iphone do them when jailbroken?

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] shayonpal:
Your biggest mistake was to try it on iPhone. Try it on an Android device running the latest GMaps app, and you'll know what I mean.
[Android General] fwdkiller:
No need to buy an iphone i own one alreay thanks for the gesture

And for the record u cant go past 8 without touchwhiz crashing believed me i tried i ended restoreing my phone 4 is good enough .im not talking about app drawer i talking about the homepages where u can install widgets and stuff.well im off people have fun tommorrow.

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[Android General] mistermentality:
Don't bash ios because you don't do it to android? Some of your posts have done just that cling users sheep, wanting samsung nuked etcetera. Three words spring to mind here...pot, kettle, black.

And fyi Android is not a company it is an operating system. Therefore it does not release phones.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mistermentality:
So now your saying iphone is better as it has sat nav that needs no data connection?

Android has these too infact some even use tomtom maps. And a lot less expensive too :)

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mistermentality:
Android apps aren't in homescreens they are in app drawer.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mistermentality:
Touchwiz is an overlay onto android not the actual os.

I'm glad your going for the night, I don't mean to cause offence but it's hard to reply to so many misinformed or misunderstood posts.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android General] mcord11758:
He is not wrong. The example I use, owning both as well is the browser. If I enter a large content web page with slow data, then recieve an email and view it, it does not matter how long I am away from the browser when I come back it is still loading. Other apps stop running completely when not in the foreground. With the browser example it appears that once you are out of the app for a couple of seconds it stops downloading. So it is not exactly where you left it but it never completes opening the web page till you come back to it. There are some apps that fully allow multi tasking, such as yahoo radio that will run in background. allot of this in my opinion is done behind the scenes in the os to make things appear to be moving faster than they really are.
[Android General] kemmo123:
and that's just stock android software, cm9 goes way beyond.
[Android General] Sinful Animosity:
That guy is too funny. Apple users are more educated than us I guess.
[Android General] rockstarar:
this is quite good. keep makin em please! :)
[Android General] votinh:
Pictures worth a thousand words. Video is priceless.

OP, great work!

Suggestion: keep stock vs. stock to be fair in comparison since we all know Android custom ROMs go far beyond.
[Android General] TheAndroidStop:
Lol this android vs. iphone stuff is sooo old now... we get it, android kicks ass, stop gloating to the ios guys...
[Android General] DangKid:
I enjoyed this video, please release the other videos.

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[Android General] alex2792:
Customizing your icons,replacement launchers and widgets don't matter when the phone can't smoothly respond to the touch and apps look butt ugly compared to iOS. Wow, I can have live wallpapers,but the phone still lags so what difference does it make? My phone is a tool, I don't want to waste hours of my time rooting and flashing roms just to make the phone usable. I won't even get into tablets where Android is 5 years behind iOS.
[Android General] vetvito:
^ sure buddy, we won't feed you in here.
[Android General] 4WildJokers:
Awesome. I've been saying this for years.

Thanks for the vid.
[Android General] apollooff320:
Well he is telling the truth if you like it or not. I was surprised to see my newly purchased transformer still lags with live wall papers. It's true that android apps look like poop compared to their iOS counterparts. Android on Tablets has a long way to go.
[Android General] Wicked4u2c:
The example videos shown are 100% stock, the phone shown at the beginning is current and that's just rooted nothing crazy with custom icons.
[Android General] qeub1990:
very informative video, keep it up. hope you could finish the series, really looking forward to it. thanks:D
[Android General] mejack03:
would mind telling what iOS version your Iphone running with?
[Android General] Infekxion:
Keep the series going so I can slam this in "iphanboys" face, not to prove superiority, just to prove a point. My opinion the only thing that iphone has better is accessories. I like that you chose to do your review with a Samsung product also. Well i guess it was two Samsung products. (see what I did there?)
[Android General] Wicked4u2c:
I think it's pretty amazing that Android can work on so many devices. When you think about how many different types of processors, ram, memory, screen sizes etc exist and all of the millions of possible combinations. I would say it runs magnificent, Apple just has to worry about a handful of combinations it would be ridiculous if they couldn't get that right (Apple still has issues). Like I said on my video, people always scrutinize Android but does iOS run live wallpapers with widgets and live feeds (social networks) at once? Can iOS even handle it? iOS is nothing but a 4x5 grid, that's it! When iOS can do everything Android can on a similar level without any "lag" then I will say the iPhone is better. Until then, it's still a limited device that can't do everything Android can.
[Android General] mcord11758:
Not sure that matters much but he said the phone was a 4s I believe so some itteration of 5, which sucks badly by the way. Battery life for the iPhone is about 5 hours of moderate use now
[Android General] Bangoo:
Nice video, helps you grasp a few things i hadn't even noticed beforehand :eek:

Thanks.
[Android General] mistermentality:
I shouldn't really feed trolls but here goes....

First off when ios gets these things you'll be praising them but until then my android phone responds fine to touch. Android devices can have lag, not because they are inferior but because they properly multitask whereas ios prioritises touch events and doesn't fully multitask.

Second of all if you think ics is five years behind ios you really don't know much about the world other than what apple tell you as its the other way round.

And third, you don't have to flash roms to have a quick phone. In case you don't know this wp7 is as quick as ios and a stock nexus with widgets in use at the time beat a stock wp7 phone recently so if as you claim android is soooo slow it should have lost.

And fourth....please do try utilising facts in your regular sessions of android bashing.

Dave
[Android General] mistermentality:
Could you give an example of an ios app whose android version look "like poop" in comparison?

Also could you mention what live wallpaper you use that's lagging? The transformer is known to have a number of issues which the manufacturers claim are driver related and therefore is not a good example but I would be happy to check said wallpaper on my less powerful phone to see if it lags.

Dave
[Android General] Nobodys_me:
+that

So if you want to compare REAL pure Android with iOS you should use the galaxy nexus android and compare that with iOS

Good luck have fun

Nobody
[Android General] 85gallon:
I never mentioned piracy. I don't condone it either. But I can put TubeMate on my android phone. It is not allowed in the Android Play Store. It IS allowed on the Amazon market. I can side load it. Same with my kindle. I can load any apps from the Play Store that are not allowed in Amazon's market.

As for updates....In Android you can turn those off in the Play App. As for iOS, you may be getting updates, they just don't tell you. Wait, I forgot. You have to buy the new version of iPhone to get updated software!! LOL
[Android General] iJimaniac:
Okay, if you don't want live wallpapers, DON'T USE THEM! It makes me sick when people say android has too many features; are you saying not being able to have a live wallpaper is better than being able to!? And your comment about microSD shows you're clueless; I can manage my SD card files just as easy on my galaxy player as I can on my PC, without root! Again, are you saying iPhone is better because NO microSD? Your complaints about speaker, etc shoulder even be mentioned, as it is a hardware problem, not with android. And if you want to say iphones are built better, I'll just say this; I know 4 people with iPhones - three of them have cracked their screens! I know 5 guys and myself with Samsung phones - not one cracked screen or any other problem. You are clearly either a troll or someone who needs to see a doctor.

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[Android General] stuart0001:
Pal, iOS doesn't even have home screens, it only has an app drawer. Android also has an (unlimited) app drawer but unlike iOS it also has customisable home screens on top of this.

The only customisation iOS has on its home screen, sorry I mean app drawer, is to move the order of the apps around.