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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .Elite_The_King.:
Are you only referring LG phones for Sprint or the whole company in smartphones Verizon is getting some pretty good phones from them.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SilentSummer:
It just went through the FCC.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/12/sprint-htc-evo-4g-fcc/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
Sooo... Phones are like women? :confused:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chumphrey78:
General Questions about the new LTE EVO

Hey guys, just throwing a few ?s out there to see what people think. I'm torn as to whether or not to upgrade to the new LTE EVO when it launches or wait a few months before making the switch?

I love my EVO 4G and only want to move to a phone that would be an actual upgrade over what I love so much right now. So my biggest questions are the following: (*Note* I am not expecting any firm answers or 'Do This' responses as I am only seeking out opinions to help me decide for myself what I want to do)

1 - if I want root, with the HTC unlocking available thru their dev site should I be concerned at all about upgrading phones and then not being able to root it when I want?

2 - From a purely hardware standpoint I know the phone is an upgrade over the EVO 4G, but from the standpoint of the LTE for Sprint being so new... is it actually going to be an upgrade for most of us?

-----I live in Dallas and I know Sprint is making us one of the first LTE cities, but they said that about the WiMAX when it first rolled out and my coverage is sh*t most places all these years later.

I had more ?s but I can't think of them now... I'll post again later when they come to me again.

Thanks for any input guys, I'm sure whatever opinions you have will help me a great deal formulating my decision.

:-)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
1: I would think you will be able to unlock your phone when you want from HTC dev and true s off will come once the devs figure it out.

2:LTE will be a upgrade from WiMAX its coverage should be the same as 3g is now
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
As far as looks go, I couldn't care less. I'll be throwing it into an otterbox defender case and likely won't get it until that case is available.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] onepluseight:
New evo

Dual 1.5 snapdragons will certainly make this a great phone. What is the rooting expectation and timeline for mods?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
No one knows the answer to either of those questions and the answer will not be here still once it comes out. You will find out by looking and randomly there will be hundreds of rooted threads on the net.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] izzyizzo:
See it to believe it...

I wouldn't believe it for a second until I see LTE in action. Similar happened to me with VZW LTE rollout on my work phone -- I get the phone, all sorts of excited... and then it turned out VZW's 4G works down the block from my house and a mile from my office... but not when I'm at either one. WiMax is actually pretty good in both places... so Evo 4G got to do double duty while I cursed VZW tower planning :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
Given the One X was rooted before retail release and the new EVO being almost exact in terms of specs - minus the processor of the international version, I would assume it wouldn't take too long
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cmonsterf50:
Hoping so. Can't wait to get into this and start tweaking
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Feel the same way. I actually have 4g where I live. (As of recently). I don't use it though, cuz I've been running ICS since December. But to buy a phone with LTE radio and LTE won't be available til next year, at best, means having ONLY sprints super ****ty, no good, horrible 3g that's not really 3g. What to do, what to do?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] polar2792:
Upgrade is in November I'm juss waiting hopefully cm9 by then :p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] roids87:
I'm not really sure how I feel about the signal strength of it. At the bottom it compares the OG signal levels to the 4G LTE.

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-159-htc-evo-4g-lte-tech-details-revealed-in-fcc-oet-filing/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Señor Poo:
Can't wait for this phone.

My OG has served me well.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mcwups1:
What worries me is the "non-removable battery"!

As it stands now, you have a problem with bootloops or freezes, you remove the battery.

What do you do now?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
if u have ADB and a computer it shouldnt be a problem.

If u were on the road and this happened.. i mean i can see why people would think this. But think if you do everything correctly you shouldnt have these occurrences.

Im with out a doubt getting this device in August
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Press and hold both volume buttons and the power button for 5 seconds, wait and watch your device reboot. No need to pull the battery.

ROM: MikG v3.11 w/ICS Lite Theme | Kernel: Underworld v0.4 SBC
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .Elite_The_King.:
Just press and hold the power button down for 10 sec it simulates a battery remove you should check out the htc one x threads to keep up with the development.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
they say it'll only support LTE in the 1900mhz, but the Snapdragon S4 (MSM8960) supports multimode LTE from 700-2600mhz, so if Sprint does get the iDEN spectrum approved for the LTE network all they would really have to do would be to release an update to the EVO for the chipset recognize it. I wouldn't see them abandoning 4G support on a phone that would be only a few months old.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Hey capn,

I don't think a reboot option would necessarily be helpful (in many cases). What WOULD be helpful, I think, is if some combo would bring up hboot. Anyone know if that's a possibility? Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
I have been able to get into HBOOT using that combination as well, by releasing all but the volume down button when the device goes dark. But that only seems to work for me occasionally on select ROMs.

[completely off-topic]

Maybe now that the Primo kernel source has dropped, there's a chance our OG EVOs can get some proper ICS kernel love. Hopefully the hardware differences aren't so significant that it makes the source useless to us.

[/completely off-topic]

ROM: MikG v3.11 w/ICS Lite Theme | Kernel: Underworld v0.4 SBC
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Thanks. I gotta say, not very encouraging, though. Like when you wipe all and format system, then select reboot now (before flashing rom). Lol. Yes, I did it once on accident. Or other scenarios where booting into Android is just not an option. Makes me a bit leery. Thanks for the feedback, though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .Elite_The_King.:
Sprint To Launch The HTC EVO 4G LTE On May 18th? [Rumor]

Sprint To Launch The HTC EVO 4G LTE On May 18th? [Rumor]
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
This from the one x forums

If you hold power for 10 sec the phone shuts down.

Then if you hold power and vol- you go straight into bootloader mode, from which you can choose recovery

For any worried about nonremovable battery
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .Elite_The_King.:
Yup I'm all over that thread learning tips n tricks till I get mines ya digs scottspa74:D they have great dev over there so learning off them right now :beer: to get ready. My EVO has serve me well its time for an upgrade.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tgrgrd00:
Which thread specifically are you learning tips and tricks from?

I went to the One X forum for the first time to look for what you are talking about and WOW the whole General sections is posts about issues http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1534

Should we be concerned? I was pumped as hell before I clicked that link lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Minjin:
In the beta technology world, everything has issues. The Evo had plenty of issues when it was first released. What matters is how the problems are fixed or dealt with.

You also have selection bias here. You're only seeing the few people with problems. You're not seeing all the people who have no problems.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I think there are people who look for issues to have. I remember the same with OG Evo, - people using an app to find if they have a dead pixel somewhere, or all the people who whined about 'light leakage'.

As for the guy posting the pic of a blue spot on his screen, yeah, that obviously is a real issue. I just think in a lot of cases, people are just LOOKING for something to complain about. And when you look for that, you'll find it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .Elite_The_King.:
Exactly nicely put. If you're looking for trouble you'll find it as the saying goes. When I get the phone I'm looking to make it better.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] yovani24:
Cant wait for this phone!!!

Still got my htc EVO 4g :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
My feelings exactly! :D

21 days left...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cesarcerros31:
While I have been a loyal HTC customer, they are really losing the development community . As much as I love their products It's pointless if I can't use it to its potential. Not to mention they are losing money fast and still treat us like this. They need to act if they want to be back in profit land.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Agreed. I asked toast to lay out his points in a petition to HTC. Haven't heard back yet. But yeah, HTCs bull**** unlock deal is giving me major pause. Yet I played with a galaxy nexus at sprint the other day (stock, obviously) and there was so much lag. Very slow it seemed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
What ur crazy gf got one its smooth
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Legendary20:
Just seen this

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/4/28/2982173/sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-release-date-may-18th
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] detcup4evr:
Hmmm now I am back on the fence, the s off process should make u jump through a couple hoops ( like agreeing to void ur warrenty) but shouldn't be impossible, that just leads to more bricks,

I like the ease of EVO s off and recovery. I was hoping to enjoy a similar experience on LTEvo .

I Recently did some work on a razr maxx installing ics, for my friend, and compared to installing software on the EVO it was a night mare, plus at this point I don't even think we can get back to stock gb, lucky ics is working good.

Hopefully the manufacturer's will realize that embracing the devs is good for business, just like the music industry finally accepted music downloads, they fought it for years and then realized people weren't going to give up downloading music.

Sent from my Synergized Aggressive Lionfish Evo using the XDA app
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
^^^^^^^^

well said, man. Well said. I know. I want Evo LTE, but as ****in nuts as HTC is getting ( and I love HTC and honestly HATE Samsung), I'm really starting to hedge my bets. Samsung makes plasticy feeling phones that feel like a toy, and have a billion problems beside that. Goddamn HTC
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Lord Darth Vader:
Woe unto thee!

Thou shalt not take the Lord God's name in vain! :eek::eek::eek: :p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] oOflyeyesOo:
I hope HTC listens to the dev community and we get this thing opened up by may 18th!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I think it's a bit late for that. They've already been developed, engineered and produced, already in boxes probably. Unless there's some sort of a SW update they could do, but I thought what's needed is a bit more intensive and lower level than an OTA. ? Maybe. ? IDK
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] imheroldman:
All they would have to do is push and OTA that updates hboot. Just like the updates that have put these locks on our phone, only they would take it off. Realistically they would be better off just releasing the tools needed to do the flash... I wonder if someone could tear into an OTA file and find out what does what. If there has been a recent update on One X or Rezound we could take that OTA and open it up, maybe even the RUU like you would take and pull the boot.img out... Just some ideas!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ECrispy:
Its very unlikely HTC will listen to the dev community and open up their phones now. They've been locked for a long time now, ever since HTC started supporting official 'unlock' which is a total joke.

They aren't going to lose sales due to this. I have yet to see a carrier/oem listen to customer feedback and make changes.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
one x just got 1.29 update today, and if you check the S-off discussion thread over, they're pursuing exactly that line of thought, ....but so far coming up lacking. :(

Actually is was dev community outrage that got HTC to develop and release the HTCdev unlock. ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] detcup4evr:
Wondering when a LTEvo forum will pop up we are getting close to preorder
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ryryv2:
Cant wait for this new phone should be a great. And it has beats audio should sound alot better the the first evo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Art2Fly:
Except Beats Audio does nothing but distort sound, making it unpure. If you really want music to sound good, get a better pair of earphones. My Evo sounds fine with my Etymotics
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] imheroldman:
I just realized that the EVO LTE has a different design for the glass than the One series... That makes my decision waver... I don't know if that design is any better than the original evo which is terrible in my opinion...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Can you please elaborate? I'm unsure what you mean by glass design, and how the EVO's is bad.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] imheroldman:
Compare the pics of the One series to EVO LTE how the glass sits on top for the One and the evo's sits in the body. If you have to go to a tmobile and run your finger across the edge of the One S and you can feel it...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Good point, I think. I noticed in videos that the Evo LTEs glass runs all the way to the edge on the bottom, but obviously not on top where the aluminum is, if that makes any sense. But I was a bit surprised to notice it ran over the capacitive buttons and all the way to bottom edges. I like that. Also, xhausx is in on Evo LTE, which makes me feel way better about root and possible s-off (still, it's killing me)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
So to further the rumors of the 18th being release day, i read today (cant find damn link now) that sprint will be accepting 50 dollar credit of og evo up until may 17th for upgrade or new line. Weird it isnt through the 18th....

Sent from my Transformer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ImaWinRAR:
18th is a friday, mate. and depending on the condition of your evo, you might be better off selling it on the marketplace or off ebay esp if you have accessories
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
Lol whoops. Dunno what i was thinking there. Maybe the 7th is in my head..... good looking out :beer:

Sent from my Transformer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] feelmyepictouch:
Screw the rumors, I like the 13th for the release date.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
That sucks - 2 days ago the Sprint customer service people told me they would give me $75 for the EVO. What a rip-off, I'm definitely selling on craigslist or eBay. you can easily get $75 - $100.

Anyway, this device is certainly looking to garner more attention now that the SIII has fallen on its face. The SIII, if it was out May 18th with the EVO, would still likely not be chosen over the EVO. But considering it is out in Q4... no competition. That thing will be old and outdated on day 1 of ownership for Sprint customers.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ImaWinRAR:
agreed. next up to bat is the iPhone 5 and the successor to the Gnex is on deck
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] abowlby:
I just wanted to add my hat to this ring now that the S3 has been announced. I will summarize my feelings starting with the LTEVO.

The king, has returned. *triumphant horns*

That is all.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
They have the Galaxy SIII hitting US Carriers apparently sometime in June, which I would find a little early than expected, but its specs aren't differing me from upgrading from my old EVO to its successor. Though I'm still pondering about taking off the total equipment protection now that its going to go up by $3 next month
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] feelmyepictouch:
:D iknorite? :D oh wait, are you serious? Spoiler alert: the iPhone 4S +LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ImaWinRAR:
where you hear this?? i heard it was coming in december (Q4) along with the next Nexus

never said they wont strike out :p

anyone else feel like monday cant come sooner?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
I heard it from BGR and a number of android sites. Take this quote from Android Authority:

In a press statement, Samsung US said that the device will come to the States “this summer”, which pretty much excludes the possibility of a May release. The good news is we can also pretty much exclude the possibility of the S3 coming to the US five or six months after its announcement, like it happened last year with the S2.

The skinny: The Galaxy S3 will probably be released in the US in the June-July interval.

http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...ces-availability-versions-release-date-82116/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mordbane:
I thought I saw this on Engadget...

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-hspa-arriving-in-may-4g-version-hitting-n/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Alex@XDA:
Was hoping to stay up to order it in T minus two hours but the landing page has an estimated time of 9AM (EST)... :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
well thats the usual time Sprint stores open, and Best Buy opens at 10 so it would seem only natural that they would do that just so you couldn't preorder before hand. I can't wait either, but I'll live.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
How do people seem to "know" that the EVO will cost $299 with a $100 mail-in rebate? Everything I see online says it will cost $199. I don't want to deal with a rebate honestly, so I am curious whether we can confirm there will be one. I would want to know this information before pre-ordering it online through Sprint, as opposed to waiting for Best Buy. Anyone have any concrete information on this?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TorxT3D:
my main concerns are..

- htc locking the phone down as mentioned above.

- current Qualcomm S4 shortages, which could have an impact on EVO LTE releases. Which could be why they havent announced a specific release date.

- lte rollout in my area will take as long as wimax did, (a year)

- lte becomes popular, sprint continues to bleed earnings, BYE BYE to unlimited data.

- too many different cellphone/tablet devices are oversaturating the market right now, which could mean limited dev help. As opposed to being just a few good phones and many devs on that one or another phone.

- hardware 001 issues. (price you pay for being early adopter)

im keeping my EVO for a while before selling it. I'll give the EVO LTE at least 2-3 months before i sell it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Hardware 1 issues. ?

Usually hardware 1 comes with a bootloader that gets patched a week after release. Then subsequent releases don't have the hole anymore. HW 1 is always best for us.

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Oh, here's a response I got from HTC when inquiring about s off and explaining how it allows us to fix our own problems, and not bother them or anyone for warrantee.

**** I can understand your concern about HTC not offering S-off on our devices. Thank you for sharing your feedback. I will be happy to explain one of the main reasons we do not offer S-off. S-* blocks access to certain partitions of the device. This ensures that a carrier branded device cannot be unlocked from the branded network and put on another network by a customer. For HTC to offer this, we would be breaking FCC regulations, Scott. When buying a carrier branded device, the customer as well as the carrier has a ‘stake’ in the phone. Because of this contract between customer and carrier, HTC cannot offer the unlock via S-off or PUK code. Doing so would void the contract between customer and carrier and thus break the law as HTC does not have a ‘stake’ in the contract. I hope this answers any of your questions as to why HTC cannot provide S-off on all of our devices. As much as we would love to facilitate our Customers’ requests in this matter, we are legally unable to. I appreciate you taking the time to write in to me today. I hope you have a great upcoming week!

******

Bunch of BS

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
team revolution will find an exploit bro

stop trying to be so negative
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vanshmack:
Website was taking orders at 5:30 AM PDT, so I submitted my pre-order.

I checked back a little while ago and saw this on the "My Order" page:

Thanks for pre-ordering. A shiny new HTC EVO 4G LTE is waiting for you in our warehouse. Shipping starts May 15th and we will send you an email the second it ships. Delivery should occur within 1 to 3 business days thereafter. You may continue to track the status of your order on this web page. If you have questions, check out sprint.com/preorder for more info.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Not trying to be negative,...just a bit nervous. (And admittedly disappointed with HTCs new direction). ;)

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TorxT3D:
htc and sprint have a contract to preserve sales and the network, and jobs.

as much as i hate it like you guys, its understandable.

crossing fingers for an exploit, it took the EVO a month or so right??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
No. The Evo was rooted before launch, as countless devices were handed out at the Google IO developer conference . And the Evo exploit on Android 2.1 was ridiculously easy. There was nearly zero protection of the nand. The entire partition and memory type (emmc) became totally different after Evo 4g. It became a COMPLETELY different, encrypted monster.

But hey, I'm not being negative lol

:p

Revolutionary may crack it. I just preordered at best buy. But, now halfway home, I see they put the wrong name on the reservation (a different line on my family plan). Hopefully I'm not screwed and can get this sorted (I know I'm not screwed, just screwed for time) sh1t, am I being negative again lol

sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kellyrx8:
I have no clue how to take this note on my pre-order

Status:	Thanks for pre-ordering a shiny new HTC EVO 4G LTE, an email will be sent the second it ships. Delivery will begin within 1 to 3 business days starting May 18th. Thank you for your patience. You may continue to track the status of your order on this web page. If you have questions, check out sprint.com/preorder for more info.

why would you ship it on the 18th for pre-orders when i can go get it at the store on the 18th ??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
That would be chaos. I'm sure it is a mistake - I bet the people who pre-ordered on Sprint (not me) will get them on the 16th, 17th, and 18th.

Unrelated, I love your wallpaper collection!! I'm gonna grab some of those for my phone for sure! Thanks for sharing. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ShadowDrake:
I'm thinking the same thing. Mine says the exact same. If that's the case - that sucks.

My impression of that is they start to deliver them 1-3 business days after the 18th. If it does indeed show up later than you can get them at stores (leaks excluded, of course) then this will be my last preorder. What's the point if I could walk into a Sprint store, or Best Buy, or one of many locations and just get one on Monday. Why tie up the $600 for an extra few weeks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ticklemepinks:
"We know you are dying to get your hands on it. We'll charge your card for your phone today and your new phone will be waiting in our warehouse with your name on it. We’ll do our best to get it to you on or before the national launch"