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[HTC EVO 3D] Nabaricoder91:
This might also have something to do with why it's taking so long, they might have to implement the necessary changes in their updates to comply with the ruling

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/20/us-htc-apple-patent-idUSTRE7BI24620111220
[HTC EVO 3D] Scougar:
Apple spokeswoman Carolyn Wu said of the ruling: "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."

lol, I love how they quote it as "theirs". It's only "their's" because they managed to hoodwink a patent on something that is basically used in every computer system around the world. Click item, list of options appears....

Wow incredible... just goes to show how Judges simply cannot comprehend technology.

And I just realised.. this conv may just derail the thread.. MOVE ALONG.. move along...
[HTC EVO 3D] Nabaricoder91:
Apple doesn't want any competition, because they know they can neer keep up with android and it's HUGE retail power, i mean Apple has one phone, android has...has any one even bothered counting? But yeah i feel like this is affecting us getting an update, and the HTC Evo LTE not coming out till next month, after the April ruling decision. i mean HTC was suppose to be updated to 4.0 already, and HTC didn't have this problem gingerbread, did it? i just know when i had samsung all my friends with HTC had gingerbread months before i got it, hell they even had froyo before i did, with my epic 4g coming with eclair out of the box, and now it's the opposite, with all these samsung devices porting 4.0.4 roms and stock leaks, i mean i was running 4.0.4 on my epic 4g with keyboard, a device that actually might not even get an official OTA, sure seems like this lawsuit is giving HTC a harder time than they anticipated :(
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
It even about competition they are just whine because Google and Microsoft "stole their tech" both while jobs was in control which says something about jobs.
[HTC EVO 3D] mike_flo94:
nice!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Mikee4fun:
What a crock of ****, MS PPPE 2002 had the ability to dial numbers from apps and webpages and the iPhone was not even conceived. FU Apple suck my fuc... ****!

That is all...
[HTC EVO 3D] heathmcabee:
I second this guy. Lawsuits cause tension though, and now I almost wish I still had my Epic
[HTC EVO 3D] PlayPetepp:
Recently released ICS updates by HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] :
what do you want to say with that link?
[HTC EVO 3D] PlayPetepp:
Thought the link was pretty self explanatory. Since this is the "official" thread...

-. typewrited .-
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
That link is old news...
[HTC EVO 3D] thomasca:
No, actually that lawsuit had a valid claim.

The patent isn't for a context menu, its for actually recognizing data structures in text, such as telephone numbers or addresses. It may not seem to revolutionary now, but back in the 90's, that was a pretty new idea, and was actually in active use on macs at the time.

And despite what you probably think, Android really does infringe on a lot of things it shouldn't (java, FAT, multitouch, etc). Google had plenty of resources to be innovative , but unfortunately for the smart phone market, they decided to steal ideas instead. Frankly, Google should be slapped down for this kind of behavior.
[HTC EVO 3D] scariola:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[HTC EVO 3D] thomasca:
You know, I get that software companies steal a ideas pretty often, but it seems kind of odd when Google does the same thing the rest of the industry does and then gets called the victim when they get sued for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
The OP should change the title of this thread to "coming later" or "coming later this year" rather than coming soon.

Or better yet.... "Coming after Sprint sells a decent amount of EVO 4G LTE's".
[HTC EVO 3D] powduh09:
It's been stated in other threads, if sprint was to blame for the delay in ics, then what's your excuse for the unbranded gsm 3vo's out there? People shouldn't be playing the blame game...

sent from my downgraded hboot 1.50 3vo running ZR3D injected with anthrax... s-off HTC, thanks to the real developers, I now have control of my device again ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] ajoesmith:
From Australia Optus website, ICS for EVO 3D in June

http://optus.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/102
[HTC EVO 3D] Royalfox:
Looks legit to me, but I hate to wait another month lulz

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[HTC EVO 3D] blazerboy567:
Our current software is 2.3.4. How old is this schedule?
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
whats the point of updating the base to 2.3.5/2.3.6/2.3.7 when they will update from 2.3.4 to 4.0.1 ? :)
[HTC EVO 3D] blazerboy567:
Yes I know this I was stating the fact that we received 2.3.4 awhile ago and it states current version is 2.3.3.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
Which means in the US, July.
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
i will have the new Evo before my beloved 3D gets ICS.

I'm fine with that
[HTC EVO 3D] xchan21:
Oh my! when HTC when?? I chosed to root my evo and install custom rom because I know it will take more and more time on you to give us that funky yummy Ice cream sandwich
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
lol @ your gif in your signature.
[HTC EVO 3D] torres.sis:
Status update:
[HTC EVO 3D] m0fizor:
Stop this massacre!

It WILL be released. Stop asking HTC when. They won't release it faster if you ask them every day.

Secondly: i am not a native English speaker, but i do not understand your (yes, you guys from US) English. Why don't you speak correctly?
[HTC EVO 3D] loscassapalle:
OMG, you're right...sometimes i read and i say "WTF he wants"?
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
No I am not blaming Sprint. I blame both HTC and Sprint.
[HTC EVO 3D] powduh09:
Either way, I would have to agree with others who have said... People shouldn't be whinning and complaining that this update is taking so long, but should be thankful that the 3vo is getting it period... You bought this device with 2.3.3 installed, and within a year it was upgraded to 2.3.4... This is exactly like people going out and buying an I7 computer with windows 7, and then EXPECTING to be upgraded to windows 8 free, just because the computer is "capable" of running it... If HTC was to roll out this update, and have publicly stated the 3vo would NOT be getting it, a lot of you guys would be running out to get the new devices rolling out with this software already installed without giving a second thought to the 3vo... Honestly, be thankful we're getting ICS period... Instead of crying because its taking too long... {/rant}

sent from my downgraded hboot 1.50 3vo running ZR3D injected with anthrax... s-off HTC, thanks to the real developers, I now have control of my device again ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] PlayPetepp:
Your theory/logic is fundamentaly flaud. You can't buy sense or android seperately, they only come with bought devices and that's why people expect updates.
[HTC EVO 3D] powduh09:
No flaw in my theory... Android is open source... So technically, you can get it seperate, its the drivers,kernels, and such that aren't openly available to the public...

sent from my downgraded hboot 1.50 3vo running ZR3D injected with anthrax... s-off HTC, thanks to the real developers, I now have control of my device again ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
True good analogy. I am thankful that the 3D will get ICS ....I just want it now :-) .
[HTC EVO 3D] dlads:
It's like a smoker saying "i will stop smoking" "When?" "Soon!" ;)

---------- Post added at 03:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:40 PM ----------

I get what your saying but your forgetting one thing m8, phones aren't computers, no matter how much they seem to be able to do computer like things like email, fb etc...

I can purchase any copy of windows i want to put on my device (PC / Laptop), it's my purchase and it's my choice, phones (at stock anyway) are incremental, only the newest update will do, theres no rolling back.

Plus the manufacturer of the phone is making the software too (well sense anyway) if we could go out and buy a copy of ice cream sandwich then i imagine we all would have, but we can't we have to wait and be obedient.

The reason that people are huffing and harring about updates is because first and foremost, people are impatient, no arguing with that, secondly there are phones which are older than the EVO 3D ie the sensation which already have the update, this isn't the first time a phone has been left in the dark over updates and i imagine it won't be the last.

All phone manufacturers are piss poor when it comes to updates, sorry if i sound bitter but when it comes to updating a phone or releasing some code to some people who could do the job better i am bitter.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
I agree with the above. Phones aren't computers so stop comparing. Windows gets updates all the time, just not updates to a newer version..but like people have said, we can't go out and buy ICS for our phones.

Would u buy a computer that you didn't have administrator rights too ? That also had software you couldn't remove..software that had the ability to track down what u do ? Would u buy a computer that was gonna be old and ignored in 6 months ?

You can also wipe a computer and put whatever software u want on it...do it here and u void warranties and insurance claims. We aren't tied to a contract with a computer either..we carry around 600$ phones that we're bound to that become old and dated a LOT faster than a computer.

I can't buy ram, processors, video cards and additional software to make my phone better..I just have to hope HTC keeps it relevant ...which they fail at.

I'm Batman..
[HTC EVO 3D] Nightforge:
While I do agree with you that they did not promise an update (to a new OS) at the time they sold the phones, and we should be grateful we are getting it at all, your comparison with windows is flawed in the fact that when you buy a PC you are not under a long term contract that restricts when you can (for an affordable price) purchase your next one. I think if they are gonna tell me that I can only get a new phone every 18 to 24 months then there should be an extra level of product support. My part in that is recognizing that it may take them some time to get around to a device thats been out for a while.
[HTC EVO 3D] TheMrMalro:
"Soon" heh. Love it when developers say that...

And maybe, we will see Android 10 soon! O:
[HTC EVO 3D] Robert542:
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Google require phone manufacturers to keep their phones up to date for a minimum of 18 months?
[HTC EVO 3D] Kemanorell:
And i heard, that google will tell to manufacturers save the option to keep original interface for android...nothing, ah ?

I think, google interested in manufacturers, like the manufacturers are interested in google, hand washing hand...and we are between them, waiting for some leak :mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] BrianBaker:
No requirements, just a semi official way of saying please support released phones for 18 months...A gentleman's agreement if you will.

Just Google trying to make it seem like they have control when we all know its the carriers.
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
As far as the interface goes that's only the underlying holoui elements. And even then that's only for market and gapps access.

And as far as the 18 months go it was an agreement between Google and certain manufacturers HTC included. That's not a rule for android as a while though.

Plus nothing has been said about this since io2011
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
I'd like to see Google and the OEM's take Ubuntu's approach to software updates. Doesn't have to be every 6 months. Annual updates are great and packages to be downloaded when the user chooses. We could have AOSP ICS by now, those who want it can install it and those who want Sense can wait for HTC to get the package ready, optionally. Kinda like being able to choose KDE or Gnome or whatever desktop you like.

Of course there is the hardware fragmentation argument but with a little backlash, that could go away, the OEM's should use the same damn chipset for each phone generation. Features like 3D and Beats, can also be optional and updated later so they don't hold back the main OS update.

Are you listening Google?
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I don't think there is any chance this phone gets updated before the Evo LTE is released. They want everyone to be sick of their phones so they buy the new one. They don't want us to have a nice update that makes our phones seem like new phones, therefore we decide not to buy the new Evo LTE.

It sucks, but it's the reality of the situation.

What really burns me up is that HTC won't even release any drivers for things like the 3D cameras, Wimax, 3D screens, etc. If we at least had those then the awesome devs in the community could throw together some vanilla Android ICS ROMs with everything working. I'd rather have that instead of a stock Sense ROM anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] notasimpleway:
So, what features are all of you looking forward to in ICS?

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger GeeBees.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Chrome n hw ac lol some of the others will be nice also mainly the drivers so we can get aosp working 100%
[HTC EVO 3D] greeg32:
No matter when it happens, after the initial hubbub dies down I predict one of the most anticlimactic updates on history. All hype aside, it will boil down to: Hey, my phone works a little better now than it did before.

That said, I am absolutely stoked for this update :)
[HTC EVO 3D] notasimpleway:
That's what I'm saying. We always ***** about updates...but once it gets here, we are like meh. I know ICS is supposed to be better and an improvement from Gingerbread, but I doubt it is a huge improvement or even that noticeable. From 1.5 to 2.1...that was a huge difference. But from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3...We saw small improvements, but nothing that made me be so impatient like some people are...

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger GeeBees.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Those weren't full version updates (2.1 to 2.2, then to 2.3 and 2.4, etc). 1.5 to 2.0 was a full version update though. And 2.4 to 4.0 is a full version update too. So it should be at least fairly significant.

I am looking forward to the apps that won't work on older version of Android (like the Chrome browser) and also the support for dual core processors. That should be a noticeable improvement in both speed and battery life.
[HTC EVO 3D] notasimpleway:
Well, my point is people will complain...just to complain. And it is quite annoying. Companies could just wait till the 18th month to release the update. And are they required to support the newest version of Android or just a newer version? At least, we aren't getting 2.3.5 or something like that. People should relax. Our phones work. I'm happy with 2.3. I do want an update, but I'm not threatening to switch phones/carriers just because I don't get it the day after they've announced it. HTC really is a development-friendly company now and they plan on releasing less phones which means quicker updates from now on. And I want those updates to work so if they need time to make sure everything is working, so be it. Patience is a virtue.

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger GeeBees.
[HTC EVO 3D] notasimpleway:
Oops.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I agree with a lot of what you said. People will complain, no doubt.

I disagree that HTC is a development friendly company though. If they were, they wouldn't have done everything they could possibly do to prevent us from getting s-off on our phones. And they would also be prompt about releasing source code and drivers.

If HTC would have released the drivers, which is a pretty minimal expectation for a developer friendly company, then we'd already have tons of stable ICS ROMs with everything working. And it would be even better if we wouldn't have just barely got s-off a couple weeks ago on a 9 or 10 month old device.
[HTC EVO 3D] notasimpleway:
My EVO 3D has been s-off forever. I guess you are talking about hboot 1.5? While I haven't looked at the site, but doesn't HTC offer a way to unlock the bootloader or whatever?

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger GeeBees.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
HTC doesn't give s-off on their site. They make you register and void your warranty, and they don't even give you s-off. An awesome dev here on xda found a way to downgrade the hboot (to one that you can get s-off) a couple weeks ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] dlads:
Hahah, so true. Lol @ Meh, that is the word when somethings just not that good anymore.

"Yea i've got Siri :)" " ?!??! mmmm Meh" ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
How does that make them not developer friendly? They give you a way of unlocking your bootloader so that you can eventually flash custom firmware to it.. The only difference is that you don't have s-off so you have to jump through some hoops. HTC has been reaching out to developers a lot lately, with their Sense site, the unlocker, much quicker source code release, etc. They don't owe us anything beyond the source code for kernels.

And shame on them for voiding your warranty for doing something that voids your warranty.
[HTC EVO 3D] ChromeEvo:
Reaching out to the dev community lately? How?

When was the last time source codes were released/leaked to the 3D? What about the drivers?

How long did it take for the 2.17 source code to be released? Hmmm...

The only thing I can give you is releasing the Beats source, but that's something Chad and a couple of other devs cracked months before they decided to release the code.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
1: They do not let you fully unlock your phone. They only partially unlock it. And even that took a massive, organized, public protest to get HTC to even do that much.

2: The Sense site was shut down. At least I'm pretty sure it was. I got a notification from HTC that they were shutting it diem and all data would be lost. I never checked to see if they followed through but I don't see why they wouldn't have.

3: Much quicker source code releases? Are you high? If HTC actually did release source code in a timely fashion, that is the minimum you could expect. It wouldn't mean they were developer friendly, just that they were doing at least the bare minimum. But they don't even do that. Source code for the Evo 3D has certainly NOT been released in a timely fashion.

4: Why does unlocking your phone void your warranty anyway? Now that we know bricking the phone is not damaging the phone, and bricks can be easily fixed, why exactly should my warranty be void if I don't even get s-off anyway?
[HTC EVO 3D] Dnst:
I think it is a significantly harder task to bring 4.0 on the evo 3D because of the 3D-cameras and display and plus we can be assured to get it as soon as reasonable, they would have no argument to hold the update back. I am actually wondering why they released the update for the sensation so "soon" as it is a direct competitor to the one s.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I think drivers are drivers. If HTC makes a driver for a 2D camera and 2D display, it's the same as if they make drivers for a 3D camera and 3D display.

The reason it takes the devs in the community longer to make an ICS ROM for the Evo 3D is because HTC hasn't released the divers yet. If they would release the drivers for this phone, we'd have a bunch of fully functional ICS ROMs.

On the Sensation, I think the reason they released the update is a combination of reasons.

1: T-Mobile has a large portion of their customers who don't sign contracts. They just buy the device outright and pay month to month. Sprint requires all new customers to sign a 2 year contract. So Sprint really wants everyone to buy their contract out and re-up, while T-Mobile doesn't care about that. As long as you're paying them every month, they are happy.

2: T-Mobile actually announced the full retail price of the One S before they announced the contract price. That should pretty much confirm point 1 to be true.

3: The Sensation sold well in the unlocked and international markets. It may have even sold more unlocked phones worldwide than contract phones. So the update was needed to support those phones too.

4: T-Mobile must have better support of existing customers than Sprint.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tornadobarrage:
I think is either HTC or sprint that is holding the ics update for the 3D. Because once ics is out and a couple of weeks later EVO 4G LTE comes out, regular people would think that its not worth upgrading to another dual core phone if they already have dual core.

Or HTC is too busy with EVO 4G LTE.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
Good point! Hopefully the rumored release date of the EVO LTE is May 18th is true, so we can get our ICS on sooner
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
1.) Exactly my point. They initially did not support the unlocking of their phones. They eventually saw that a fair amount of their user base was interested in unlocking their phones, so they provided a safe way of doing so.

2.) As far as I know, they're working on it to improve it, and that's why it was shut down.

3.) I'm not high at all. Stop living in the past. LATELY they have been good with their source code. Did you not bother reading my post? The Vivid code was released right around the ICS update, they're releasing source for their One phones at the moment, and they've released source for the Sensation ICS update.

4.) It voids your warranty because it DOES pose a risk. While it may be possible to repair a brick, 90% of people will not know how to do this, and they'll bring their phone in expecting service. If they serviced every single phone that went south due to unlocking it and playing around with it, well... it would cost them a lot of money. To be honest, I agree with this move. If people are going to be intentionally modifying their device to the point where ruining it is possible, I wouldn't want to offer them any form of warranty service.

You're missing the point. HTC has a bad track record PREVIOUSLY but they are doing a lot more these days to fix that. Everything I listed has been a more recent thing. They've given us this unlocker tool when most other OEMs like Motorola would never THINK of such a thing. They've been VERY timely with their source code releases for the ICS updates that they've given so far. They were slow with GB, but that is in the past now. As of this moment, HTC is improving their relationships with the development community. You can't expect a large corporation to fix everything at once, because changing things actually takes time and effort in a professional setting. It isn't as simple as saying, "This is what they want, so let's just give it to them."

That's not how the world works.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Our unlocked HTC method bootloader is a thousand times better than MOTO's crap they make their users go through...so yeah its easy to say HTC is way more friendly than MOTO...
[HTC EVO 3D] :
You sure? On my Xoom, all I did was boot into bootloader and choose yes to unlock. Then I was good to go. Literally like 10 seconds.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Lol, yeah, he was obviously mistaken on that one.
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
May 7th.... it's on Sprints website

edit.....scratch that.... that is the day they accept preorders
[HTC EVO 3D] xlxcrossing:
That's my birthday, shouldn't we get a leak before that?
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
What is May 7th? Evo 3D ICS, the release of the Evo LTE, our just preorders for the Evo LTE?

Can't check myself easily because I'm posting from my phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] Deadly Sto(R)m:
it is preorder date for evo lte...
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
I'm going to choose to agree to disagree, then.
[HTC EVO 3D] scariola:
Anyone......?

http://www.android-hilfe.de/htc-evo-3d-forum/230948-update-ist-da-hats-noch-2.html#post3081738
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Fake
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Ummm that's a tablet bud....talking phones here man. Name a phone MOTO has released that has come with the unlocked bootloader....?
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Not to mention thr xoom was thr nexus version for the tablets yes?
[HTC EVO 3D] scariola:
Didn't a MOTO just recently find a means of s-off equivalent?

Edithttp://androidcommunity.com/droid-razr-locked-bootloader-gets-an-early-work-around-20120414/