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[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Thought I'd report back on this. Well, although I like Go Power Master for it's efficiency in killing processes, thus saving a bit of battery and freeing memory, I ultimately did uninstall it as it appeared it was a little too good at its job! On multiple occasions my TP did not shut down properly, because I suspect of a necessary shutdown process that it killed. Anyway, I am back to shutting down correctly although I miss the somewhat extended battery life and the extra 30-40mb that Go Power Master liberated.
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
I will go back to version "A" and see if I get reboots and let you know.

I installed version "A" on one of my daughters' TP's. It has never had any version of Android on it before. All went smoothly and I have not had any reboots in over 3 hours of loading it up with apps.

Two things I think people constantly overlook is the wide range of apps different people use and that there are ill behaved (or ICS incompatible) apps out there. I may have something on here that is getting in the way.

Thanks again for all your hard work.
[TouchPad Development] slam11100:
What recovery are you using to wipe dalvik?

Sent from og evo or tp running something these devs have cooked up
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Crisis averted ;)

I did a nandroid and installed version "A" over version "B" (with the requisite cache and dalvik wipe) and its been running fine since. No reboots at all. Before it would have booted at least 3 times by now.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
I believe he said in his earlier post he was using CWM.
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
update-cwm_tenderloin-1012

CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.6
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
I generally don't clutter dev threads with thank you posts, just hit the thanks button. But, just wanted to say thanks for sharing your time and effort.

I'd been using the nightlies with little to no issues but decided to try your 3/31 and liked it. So, now about to flash 4/18. Also, I like your overall approach to the rom regarding the LnT, as well as your demeanor in this forum. Really nice job!

Btw, you may be Old And Treacherous but I'm Old And Tired. :p Thanks again.

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
And I'm OaF... Old and Fat :p
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
Sorry, I know this is another non-dev post but I did really LOL at that. :D Thanks for the laugh.

On another note, @OaT could you take a look at SuperSu, made by Chainfire on XDA forum? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

It has a more ICS look and works well, I've been using it on my TP & now on my KF ICS builds for almost a month, replacing Superuser. There's an interesting feature to temporarily unroot, I haven't tried this but it could be useful for services like some movies etc. that won't allow rooted devices.

Anyway, take a look and if you like it, maybe you can replace Superuser in your future builds. Thanks.

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Hip, hip, hooray for the O.a.X's! :D
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
Just flashed 4/18 and tested a few things. Everything seems to be working fine so far. The only hiccup I noticed was with Netflix, when selecting a movie for the first time on load, there is no sound. Backing out of the movie and then playing again fixes it. Btw, it's random as it doesn't happen every time.

Quite frankly, I don't remember if this may have already existed with the previous nightlies without the new Adreno drivers??? Anyway, seeing as how it's easily corrected, not a big deal to me. Thanks.

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
I'm trying it now and it looks interesting! You want to test this on a modified version B?
[TouchPad Development] LinuxNewb:
I'll test it out :)
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
Got your PM, I'll check it out but it's been running fine on my TP and so far, it's been recognizing everything that needs root access.

EDIT: Making a nandroid now and will flash mod B...will let you know.

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Just sent you another PM with some of the things I initially saw when I flashed mod B. But everything has been fine since.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Thanks for the offer. Might take you up on this in a bit to see if there is a consensus on what we are/are not seeing.
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
Got it, just replied. Glad it's been working well for you, I really like the look, kinda' brings an "old standard" into the ICS era. :D

Btw, I don't d/l from Play Store, I just embed it right into the rom zipfile so it's a system file immediately and doesn't have to replace Superuser's domain. I believe this avoids any initial conflicts with apps looking for root and relying on Superuser being there. Don't know if that could make a difference on a first boot???

Of course, this is just a semi-educated guess. :cool:

EDIT: Short time but I've had no issues. I ran every app that I have that needs root, updated the su binaries, rebooted a couple of times, powered up/down and it's working great. I'll keep it on my TP overnight and post again tomorrow. As an aside 4/18B seems to be fine, wifi is steady and the only thing I've noticed is that when you turn wifi off/on, takes about 15s to come back on. But for me, this is not unique to this build. I've been seeing this on recent builds I've tried overall.

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Ok, flashed version "A" to my son's TP and sending him off to school with it. He had version "B" there yesterday. I'll get a comparison of the two from him later tonight.

Already told me that version "B" was better than 3/31 release at grabbing weak signals and that 3/31 was better than the CM7's which had a real tough time connecting at all.
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
@OaT

Ok, one small hiccup this morning with the modified B version. When I first powered up, all apps requiring root were working properly. Matter of fact, I use No Frills CPU, which requires root at startup and it worked perfectly. However, I decided to go into the SuperSu app to check the log and it wouldn't open, the loading icon just kept spinning. I was able to just back out of the app and upon testing my rooted apps, all were working.

I rebooted my TP but the app still wouldn't open, so I cleared data and rebooted. This cleared it up and the app opened without issue. I was using your A version, so I restored my backup from last night and the same thing happened on the initial boot. However, this time just a reboot got the SuperSu app to open. I probably never noticed this for the 3+ weeks I've been using it, because all rooting privileges were working, I applied my settings and didn't have to go into the app.

I like the SuperSu app and for me, it's a minor issue, so I'm going to keep it on my TP. Being that you distribute your rom, you may just want to keep the "Old Faithful", superuser. I'm going to post my issue in Chainfire's SuperSu thread, see if I get a response/solution.

Also, your A & B worked equally well for me as I really don't have any wifi issue, so which would you recommend? Do you suggest I just stick with the new kernel A version? Thanks.

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] LinuxNewb:
Version A did not work very well for me. On my previous 3/30 build I had the dreaded "Authentication Error" with WiFi and the I had to clear cache and dalvik along with fixing permissions. Version A had similar authentication issues and I'm only running WPA2 on my home WiFi.

Switched to Version B and my WiFi connected right upon startup. I am using Apex launcher and I've noticed the transitions are a little slower than on the previous build.

@Oats - Have you messaged the CM9 devs to let them know their recent kernel changes doesn't work with the ath6kl drivers?
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
By any chance, did you have wifi running when you decided to go into SuperSU? This reminds me of what happened to me yesterday, which I mentioned in my PM to you, on my first entry into SuperSU with wifi running. On the other hand, started up my TP this morning, without wifi running, went into SuperSU and all was well.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Re: wifi. If you've had problems with wifi, I would definitely recommend version B as it has the ath6kl drivers that the March 31 version did. I have not gotten a response about the apparent incompatibility with the new kernel and the ath6kl drivers.

Re: slowdown. Has there been an update on Apex launcher recently, that may be causing the slowdown? Although, I believe I too have noticed a general slowdown in both A & B, but definitely more noticeable in A with the new kernel. There may be some additional "overhead" in all the updates over the last couple of weeks that is adding a bit of drag on the system.
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
Yeah, I always have it running. I have wifi settings to Keep Wifi on during sleep to Always. Then I use Green Power to override the wifi sleep policy, which allows the wifi to turn off automatically when the screen is off, since this is not yet functional in CM9. This seems to save a bit of battery for me.

Anyway, I just powered on from off, as well as reboot from system a few times and I was able to open the SuperSU app without issue. Also, I have SuperSU on my Kindle Fire running the latest CM9 and it works fine.

I just disabled CyanogenMod statistics, wanna' see if that makes any difference, as that loads on startup and seems to pop up in notifications just as my wifi icon is appearing. Sorry, Dalingrin, I'll re-enable it after a little testing. ;)

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] Nos0x:
Installed version B, very happy with it so far, seems a tiny bit slower than the last ROM I had on (one of the CherryKang ROMs) but seems to have more stability.
[TouchPad Development] Zombie138:
I flashed A and its been working great so far. Thanks for the great work
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
News section in OP updated. Am especially interested in everyone's thoughts about an "LNT + Cornerstone" version.
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
What are the "audio/headphone issues" you mentioned in todays news?

IMHO, other than a novelty I really don't see cornerstone as a positive addition. To me it seems to get away from the LnT concept and possibly opens the door to incompatibilities. Just my to $.02
[TouchPad Development] viskon:
That would be wonderful!!! I am currently using antiphon's rom and I swear it is awesome. Being unable to connect to wifi after reboot is the biggest irritant on that rom. I would love the legendary reliability of LnT with the awesomeness of Cornerstone.

Edit: I was secretly hoping you would take this up.
[TouchPad Development] viskon:
For people (like me) that also use the tablet for academics- reading books and taking notes from the books- Cornerstone is a godsend. I have the ebook open in one window and can type in my notes on Evernote in another window. No more clumsy switching between apps :thumbup:
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
When plugging in headphones, to an already playing movie or music, you could not hear the sound. The workaround has been to plug in earphones before starting the media. There is also something about the audio stopping if the device goes to sleep and excessive crackling sounds at high volumes.

I need to really sit down and test these out on last night's build to see if they are fixed or if it was just too late and I was just too tired.
[TouchPad Development] LinuxNewb:
Personally I wasn't thrilled with Cornerstone and that's one of the main reasons I came to this ROM. I found that things didn't scale too well and if you wanted to launch another instance of the app it won't allow you to do so (limitation of the current build).

If there was a way to enlarge different cornerstone windows and then minimize it back to the way it's supposed to be then it'd be cool.
[TouchPad Development] dung8604:
Does the "webOS-like" mod not work well for this? I haven't tried cornerstone, so I don't really know.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
My understanding of the "webOS-like" mod is that it is just a different presentation of the "recent apps" manager found in android. Cornerstone appears to offer true multitasking between the windows, e.g., copy and paste from concurrently open windows or advancing a song in a playlist while browsing. Don't really know how well that works as I've mostly been trying to get past some of it's boot/wifi peculiarities.
[TouchPad Development] webdroidmt:
Always good to be open to new things. Regarding Cornerstone, I tried it for a short while about a month ago and thought it was really cool. The multi-tasking and it's similarity to WebOs card flipping makes it even more appealing. However, I had it installed for a short time because it was very unstable for me.

I don't keep up with antiphon's thread, so I don't know how much improvement has been made with it. If it's anything like when I previously tried it, I would not use it. Anyway, just my two cents. Thanks.

Btw, don't know if you're already aware but there was a new gapps (0422) released yesterday.

http://goo.im/gapps/

Mike T
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Thanks for the heads-up on the new gapps; downloading it now.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Problem of plugging in headphones while media is playing and not being able to hear persists. Workaround still works.

Audio, using headphones or tablet speakers, is fine when display turns off/goes to sleep.

Crackling sounds on headphones at the highest volumes still exists. Lowering the volume a couple notches still works to eliminate crackling.
[TouchPad Development] viskon:
To build on what OaT said, the webos mod changes the swipe left-to-close motion to swipe up-to-close the app. You still have to manually switch between apps. With Cornerstone, you can have three apps running simutaneously in the different windows- no app switching needed.
[TouchPad Development] sheedatali:
Any ideas on when the WiFi driver that fixes the issue might be incorporated in your ROM? I need to take my TP abroad in couple of days. Hoping to have a fix before that..
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Well, been exercising LNT + cornerstone for the last couple of hours and have to admit I'm liking it. I seem to have found a workaround to it's boot/wifi peculiarities by simply having the TP start up without launching cornerstone on bootup. Then if I want to "parallel process", I initiate cornerstone to say peruse my email in one window while updating my apps via google play in another window, all while browsing my favorite websites in the third window (see pic below). I agree it would be nice to be able to expand/shrink a window at will, but still quite useful in this context. Since booting without automatically launching cornerstone, I have not experienced any stability problems including blank screens, loosing links, etc. The icons do become a bit distorted in the various windows, but IMO, acceptable for the capability it provides.

Finally, in terms of the LNT philosophy, 1) the size of the zipped rom is only a few hundred kb's different in size, 2) without launching cornerstone on bootup the available memory is virtually the same on LNT and LNT + cornerstone, 3) upon killing cornerstone, memory is returned to the system as good as when killing any other android app, and 4) it's difficult for me to see how cornerstone could be provided as an apk thru say google play; currently a somewhat deeper integration with android is necessary.

After some more testing on my part, I'm thinking of making this available to my testers who provided me feedback during my first round of LNT testing. I also may open it up to a few additional testers to get a better sampling of perspectives if a significant number of those prefer not to test and provide feedback at this time, which I completely understand.

P.S. This all seems to be working well with Go Launcher HD.
[TouchPad Development] sheedatali:
Just flashed both version A and B, my WiFi does not connect. It fails with Authentication Error.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
You need to provide more detail in terms of what rom(s) you are coming from, and what type of wipes/formats you did prior to flashing LnT. Also, what history you've had with other roms and wifi might prove useful.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Version B has the ath6kl wifi drivers that help many in it already. The only thing that version is sacrificing is a somewhat older (but apparently faster) kernel.
[TouchPad Development] sheedatali:
Sure, Here is the sequence of events

1 .CM 7 ( 3.5 ) => WiFi worked

2. ( Wipe Data/Factory, Cache Dalvik Reset )

3. Classic NERD Latest => WiFi worked very first time, not again after first sleep

4. Supreme Mod + ( Wipe Dalvik ) => No WiFi

5. ( Wipe Data/Factory, Cache Dalvik Reset )

6. Oat Ver A => No WiFi

7. ( Wipe Data/Factory, Cache Dalvik Reset )

8. Oat Ver B => No WiFi

It does not seem to work at all now. Scans and shows my WiFi network but does not connect, fails on Authentication Problem.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Well, the first thing I would suggest is cleaning your boot partition since you've been using CN. I believe they have a boot partition cleaner that can be flashed via CWM, but I don't know what state it returns your boot partition to. Then I suggest a complete set of wipes/formats under CWM including...

wipe data/factory reset

wipe cache partition

advanced>>Wipe Dalvik Cache

mounts and storage>>format /cache

mounts and storage>>format /data

mounts and storage>>format /system

Then repeat the above cycle of wipes and formats again for good measure.

Then try flashing Version B.

If you still have problems, try downloading blade wifi fixer from the market and run that.

Otherwise, the only other thing I can suggest is to start from scratch with ACMEUninstall then ACMEInstaller2 followed by your favorite rom. But please beware that CM9/CM9-based roms, and AOKP, and CN all put different stuff on your boot partition, a very critical and limited resource.
[TouchPad Development] viskon:
I can be a tester if you want me.
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Setting it up so that you can launch Cornerstone and close it when not in use seems like the best of both worlds. I had thought it had to be always active, even when not in use.

That being the case I've changed my mind. Didn't matter tho, its your ROM and I support whatever

you

want to do with it.

Looking forward to the new version. Hopefully there are some cool changes in the new GApps and they work well with LnT.
[TouchPad Development] nitrobg:
Hello, O.a.T.

Is there any way to use this app's functionality - reverse tethering through USB (share internet connection from computer to tablet) on the Touchpad?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.littlelan.ReverseTether.Paid&hl=en

I'm unable to connect to my laptop's hotspot - the connection drops after few seconds, so I'm looking for alternatives.

Also, I would like to vote for a version with Cornerstone, it looks great.

Thank you for this great ROM. Take care!
[TouchPad Development] sheedatali:
Thanks mate, I tried all of the above including ACMEUninstaller bit. Reflashed v B of rom. It does not fix the issue. My WiFi just won't connect. Works fine in WebOS and CM7. Bit disappointed because everything else seems to work great. My last ditch hope is to try CM9 nightly builds and see if it works.
[TouchPad Development] somanshmittal:
Hi O.a.T.

I must say that yours is by far THE BEST ROM I have tried on my TP. I never thought I would get such a stable ROM on the TP and was thinking of buying some other tablet in the future, but I have changed my mind. And as far as the 'bugs' are concerned, I think I can live with them. Keep up the good work! Amazing amazing ROM. The best part, it does what it says- Light and Tasty!!!! All the best for future updates!
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
I talked to my son about an "A" to"B" comparison on wifi. Both are better than the 3/31 release at holding weak siginals. Originally "B" had a little trouble connecting but once it gained signal was able to hold it.

He's got a couple of unrelated issues. One is audio "chatter?". He couldn't describe it or reproduce it for me. Not static. Not cutting out. Just screwy. Video is fine and it happens with both wifi content as well as content stored on the TP.

Also, he reported that he lost a bunch of apps when I flashed version "A". He got them back via the market. I can't figure out how I could've mucked up the flash. Wiped cache and dalvik and then flashed the ROM. Just reporting the anomoly.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Very strange on those issues, especially since it is not reproducible. Maybe just a very bad boot, knowing that I've had those on occasion.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
PM's to my testers with links to LnT + Cornerstone went out a little while ago. As I mentioned, I may open it up to a few additional testers so stay tuned.
[TouchPad Development] LinuxNewb:
Gapps 4/22 Changelog
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Check your PM's.
[TouchPad Development] WizeGuyDezignz:
I can be a tester as well if you still need another one. :D

On a side note, any idea why I can't set up my hotmail email on this ROM? When I put my login info in, it just hangs at "checking incoming server settings". I tried 3 other ROM's and didn't have that issue. I even wiped and reinstalled with the same results.

Thanks for any help!
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Hmm? Just tried and I couldn't either. Although I don't use hotmail very often, when I do I just go through the browser. I'll look into it and see if I can figure out what's going on.
[TouchPad Development] WizeGuyDezignz:
Cool man, thanks!
[TouchPad Development] ItsDon:
Running version B (which is stellar BTW!) and having one little issue. After waking the TP up from sleep (after a few hours) the wifi refuses to turn on. I need to manually turn it off then back on for it to connect. My sleep policy is set to have wifi never sleep.

I tried searching but came up empty. Suggestions?
[TouchPad Development] hexto:
Running version A and its running perfect. Thanks for yet another great build
[TouchPad Development] BelfastLad:
OaT

Haven't tried your A and B builds yet as the previous version is now running so well for me. I will definitely update should you get to a Cornerstone public release though.

If you need any more beta testers for Cornerstone, I'm happy to get involved. As a fairly "noob" user, if it can be broken, I may be just the guy to try and break it - LOL!

One question (which may illustrate what I mean) Is there any way to get the bottom button bar to autohide. I found a checkbox under the settings to autohide when running full screen apps but it seems to make no difference. When I start Asphalt 6 (legit paid for "Play Store" dl) the home/back buttons just refuse to go away and the only app which it seems to partially work with is the Aldiko eReader where the buttons are visible when I open it but if I tap to pull up the reader options and then return to normal reading mode, the bar will disappear.

Not trying to hijack the thread - If I'm being stupid just call me stupid - I can take the shame!!

Thanks again for this ROM. It still makes me smile when I use the tablet and every time I whip out my Touchpad in public (no smutty innuendo intended) the iPad and ChiPad brigades crowd around to see and generally slink away admitting that "No, their tablet can't quite do all that".
[TouchPad Development] mike-y:
Also been running Version A for a few days now. Have to say this is my new favorite ICS rom. Only thing I've noticed is that Go Launcher cuts off some text for apps in the app drawer in protrait mode. Haven't seen where I can adjust the text size in go launcher yet.

Otherwise, the ROM itself has been stable, and wifi has been working great for me.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Re autohide: I also haven't found that to work very well. In my case FBReader with it's own capability is the only app which really seems to work properly.

Yup! I believe it has to do with the resolution/aspect ratio of our screens as Go Launcher HD on my wife's A500 works fine. I've reported this to the Go folks, so guess we'll just have to wait for them address it.