yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
I appreciate you. Do you mind me finding someone who can resize it and then you can upload it? For options sake?

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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
Still doesn't look like it changed.

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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mrmako777:
i think it looks perfect man!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
yes because only fix clock position :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
yes you can find someone to resize it :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] cmajewsk:
Looks great thank you so much. I am running the same ROM as you. I was wondering if this is pulling the weather displayed on the home screen from a different source than where HTC was pulling it from? The reason I ask is because today it says “Haze”. I have never seen it say that before. But I will tell you I live in Abu Dhabi and it is hazy all the time, so this is accurate. Again thank you!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] titoodj:
Whats the name of the theme that you are using?? Great app!!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
It's called Amazing Sense Black.

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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Groschen:
To the original poster, how did you make that transparent status bar like in sense 4? I know it can be made with rcmix tweaks but it doessnt look like that.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
I'd also like to know and is it possible to do it with a non rooted phone?

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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] redzemat:
oh, thx finalyyyyyyyyy :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
My rom is rcmix 3d v.4.0 for desire hd with 60% transparent status bar if not look like that you can try 80% trans status bar
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
No it impossible because they changing the file system that can only be done with rooted phone...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] chzzz:
This is insane man.... no..words...

just...thank you.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Nichie:
Nice!

Will try it out soon

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] scorpion5:
awsome work!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] simmarjit:
Where do I download the test versions?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
Second page of the thread.

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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gabbana-music:
what could be the problem?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
What display do you have? qHD?

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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gmlawrence33:
Thanks, working great on my my4g. Wonderful work.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] simmarjit:
Some launchers it needs to be resized ...like apex launcher you will have to resize. But I think you r using Rosie, so I wouldn't know what your problem could be.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gabbana-music:
480 / 800 hdpi
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
this widget don't work good in htc ics rom with htc sense/rosie launcher but working good in stock htc android 2.3.5 with rosie/htc sense launcher
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gmlawrence33:
Working on my mt4g running sense 3.5. Android 2.3.5 coredroid v1.3. No problems at all.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] vjeta:
Nice work, but is there any way to open the clock/alarm app instead of widget setup?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] estremodesign:
4x1 clock widget ?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] suku_patel_22:
Can we have sense 4 clock in 4*1 please..

Why it doesnt work on Sense 4 launcher?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Gnaver:
Here is 4x1 widget from same developer...awesome work on both of this
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] estremodesign:
yes I'm see but this sense 3.5 :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
Sense_4_Clock_White_V3 more perfect now..... I have change clock background and resize the widget so maybe it look fine in most 3rd launcher tested with go launcher ex, MIUI Launcher and Latest Xperia S home Please try it...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] xvicedice:
Yngwie this is a great widget, i have also customised this for the motorola XOOM

I have given you credits in the forum so is all i can say is thank you :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
yes you are wellcome :)

you also can edit widget translation with apk edit to change high and low temp because i change " Hi " with " / " and delete " Lo " you can find it..... :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Capt.Insano:
Would also love this, a way to choose an App (clock/alarm) to launch when tapping the clock. Maybe remove settings when tapping widget.??

Great widget!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gabbana-music:
but you can put it here?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gabbana-music:
Yngwie

please tell me how to remove what I've highlighted in the screenshot?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] JezzeB:
What is that launcher you are running? And dock ?

Desire HD RUNNYDROID 5.0
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gabbana-music:
sense 3.6 :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] lockfolder:
hi, 10x for the great widget, i've already installed it, but is it possible to make the clock flip - the way it really flips on htc devices?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] usaff22:
Hi there, I have an HTC Wildfire but really like this widget... but unfortunately it is an LDPI device, so nowhere near QHD or even HDPI :(

Is it possible for someone to make an LDPI version? I will happily test it :D
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] nizi652:
nice

Thanks to creator, my screen is better than ever!

I like sense 3.5 clock too. but its so old graphic...3.5

So, I tried modify it.

If this make problem. I will delete it.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Rem¡:
Works very well on my Galaxy S2 on Android 4.0.3. Thanks!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] olyloh6696:
Beautiful.

Maybe you could change the app icon though? So it comes up the new icon? And change the name :D

4x1 Sense 4
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] david.degraw54:
How bout making one that would be compatible with 160dpi (mdpi)? ;)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
no problem..... thanks ;)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
Sense 4 clock white v 3.1 uploaded fix for mdpi device and and change some weather image
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] MrBeOTP2:
not for QHD >__<
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] K7Cobb:
Is there a 4x4 size of the widget?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Dad Pee:
Nice work to OP and yours great big thanks. Btw what rom are you using got borer with the round shape status bar want to change it to square to match clock.

Dad Pee posted on XDA App

Desire HD Quietly Flashing
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] drewcam888:
any chance the numbers on black clock could be a little lighter so they are easier to read.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] nizi652:
forgive me my english is so short..

I hard to understand what you said.

:(

im in icecreamsandwich rom..
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Gnaver:
So tried version 3 of white clock and its nice but the weather do not update for me...today i downloaded version 3.1 but when i click on weather image nothing happens...no four day conditions.

Swyped from my ZTE Blade
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
Maybe your weather not updated so it said no forecast details found!!!... i don't have problem with it when i click weather icon it show four day forecast ;)

try uninstall and install again
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Gnaver:
Location was found and i have two other weather apps and they normally update but on this there are ten degrees and cloudy for two days, even when there's no cloud or raining.

Swyped from my ZTE Blade
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] usaff22:
Any chance for an LDPI version? I can happily test it :)

LDPI is 120 dpi :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] frantisek.nesveda:
Is there any chance that clicking on the clock would go to alarm settings?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
What about qHD? You got it working. You know I don't mind testing for that.

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G™
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Double0EK:
Can I request the qHD Test 7 in black? Thanks in advance.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] SolubleShoe:
Alternate bg?

Do you think you can make a version with a more ICS friendly background for the weather?

Here is a BG i made: imgur. com/IL1OQ
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] bliind:
I really like this, good job separating this from HTC Sense :)

My only problem is the dark one. It looks more like the older clock than the new clock. Can you make a dark one that has the same font for the numbers and maybe white numbers? Also maybe an option to hide the app icon?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
thanks, please try this i have change weather background like your request ..... :)

note:

Sense_4_clock_white_DHD_Sense_3.0&3.5 only for desire hd with stock rosie launcher i make this for me only maybe you can use it with other launcher but with ability to resize the widget...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
Sorry for late reply i don't see fine because of the small screen shot maybe you can give me apk that you have edit it
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Double0EK:
Request: qHD Test 7 in black. Thanks in advance.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
try this and give me screen shot... :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Double0EK:
Thanks!! Looks Good! Now I don't know which one I should have on my phone...the Sense 4 or Sense 3.5 4x1...decision..

Chuck Norris can but Walker Texas Ranger can't. :D
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Impact7:
@Yngwie Malmsteen

First great job what you did :)

Could you take the "big" weather from the gnex edition an insert it to your work? I´d rather love to see a big sun on my display than a small one ;)

The apk can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18177289/Sense_4_clock_gnex.apk
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] --anx--:
It can be interesting to have bigger weather icons on this widget...just like ones from MIUI Weather... :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Double0EK:
qHD Black Test 2

qHD Black Test 3

Chuck Norris can but Walker Texas Ranger can't. :D
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] INZANEDUD:
Thanks for your beautiful artwork, looks great on my motorola defy, running cm7.2 nightly with dx home launcher

:D
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] a961009:
Pleaseeeeeeee make this for ldpi

I know that it is annoying to make a new apk for ldpi devices, but I the widget is so great!

I downloaded your apk and installed it and it just showed a sense 1.0 clock.

My phone's resolution is 240*400.

I want to resize it but I donno how to do...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Mathieuuu_:
Great!

I was searching for this a long time

Great widget! Thank you!

---------- Post added at 02:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:57 PM ----------

btw can you make the widget opens the clock or the alarm app when you klick the clock?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Gnaver:
+1 on this. It'll be awesome to have big weather.

Swyped from my ZTE Blade
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] matt_funk:
im currently using this on my htc sensation (qHD) and its great (the 3rd comment down ) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1576628
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] cendioxid:
2x1

is it availabe for 2x1 panel or just this huge one?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Vernox701:
There is a sense 3.5 version I don't have the link .

Made a Transparent version with white numbers doesn't look good on true black Wallpaper

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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] matt_funk:
theres just the big one there
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Vernox701:
Sense 3.5 clock widget

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24122661&postcount=1
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] chzzz:
I remembered I tried to replicate some Sense4 weather icons. You can replace them in your clock if you like. :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Epic_HTC:
Working perfect. Thanks.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
Really? I tried it and it looks weird. It doesn't fit. The white one right?

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G™
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] verynuclear:
HTC One X here

On Apex and Nova Launchers the black rectangle below the clock is smaller and numbers appear over each others as in this post

Can you fix please?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23900472&postcount=7

Edit: I changed Horizontal margins to large and it is Ok now
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] lockfolder:
@Yngwie Malmsteen

any chance to make the panels of the clock really filp?? now it only changes the minutes and hours but it doesn't flip... :(
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] usaff22:
Anyone?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Marcdu81:
All versions for me ( like sense 4x1 clock ) on my DHD do the same thing :
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] iconata:
works perfectly on Samsung Galaxy S2.. but just one question.. can you make the clock flip?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] romerovallin:
Could you post the apk? Think it would look right on qHD?

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G™
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] :
Works fine for me.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
Sorry for late reply please try this if the problem still happen try change your phone language to english because i don't have problem with that.... :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] thebranded:
First great widget and thanks!

Second a couple of requests :D

1. Can you have it show multipule locations? One based on your current location via gps/gprs and the second to be a manuallly entered one?

2. Mentioned above by Mathieuuu_, If you press the clock, can it open the alarm widget/options screen? So if you want to change the settings you have to open it via the menu screens.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mikbe:
Good widget but somewhat useless until more locations are added to weather. It doesn't even find the capital of Finland. The capital of Finland! Not to mention some smaller cities. :(
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] kikisp:
can this be used on GB?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Double0EK:
Yes..but depending on your phone and screen size it mite look funny. Just test the one closest to your screen size.

Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] ngh55:
Beautiful work my friend, thank you very much, just a small request, is there a way to link the weather to my beautiful widgets app? So when I click the weather image it pops up the weather animation from beautiful widgets.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Dark Lugia 2:
Thanks so much for posting this and all your efforts! This is the only sense 4 clock widget I've seen that looks exactly like the real one.

I was just wondering if this will work on the HTC Evo 3D. It has a QHD display. I ask because I tried to install one of the apk from this thread myself and it said Parse Error.

Again, lovely job with this, it looks fantastic

EDIT: I used White sense clock 4 V3 and it worked! It looks lovely :D But it looks like this:

i (dot) imgur (dot) com/TPl49 (dot) jpg (remove the spaces in the link please, I cant post links as I'm a new member
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] sicaliptic0:
Thanks, works fine for me

Desire S
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] GSensung:
Works great on Galaxy Nexus. Everything looks good, and my jealousy for the One S is slowly fading! Thanks!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] jpcdeux:
Looks and works great on 2.3.7 MIUI inspire! Thanks!!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
yes android 2.1 also work........... your htc hd2 has same res with desire hd 480x800....
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Tugix1:
Works perfect on Runnymede Xtreme, THANKS!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] ears1991:
Nice, qhd white version would be epic

Sent from my MB860
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] DB13:
Looks amazing on my OG EVO on AOKP B31 great work
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Double0EK:
Try qHD Test #7 found on post #14 works fine for me.

Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Zehlek:
Appears to be misaligned
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] dioooi:
Thanks for your great work!

Can add the refresh setting when "once data connected"?

Dio
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] empathyislost:
Amazing work!

Suggestion: make tapping the flip clock opens the clock.apk app like the stock widget. Tapping the flip clock now opens the widget settings, but we can just do that from the app drawer. Would be more convenient to have quick access to clock / alarm settings like stock.

Thanks so much!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] ears1991:
try on a 5x4 grid, looks ok for me but when i change to 4x4 i think it looked something like your screenshot, hopefully this can be fixed so it doesnt matter what grid size is used :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] coljuay:
Not exactly sure, whether this above suggestion is possible since this is acty another app (that doesnt support such features). But definitely, I'll love to have the programmable shortcut on touching various parts of the clock widget. +1
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] empathyislost:
+1. Hope to see this in v5
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Juusuhako:
Works perfect with TSF Shell launcher.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] majky11:
Good job!

But i miss weather animation, when u unlock the screen ...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] petit.ce:
Help

We have to found a solution 'cause I have this problem too with the french language.

Please helpppp :(
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] shibo84:
French language

I have a problem too with the French language. On another forum, the file operate with the French language but the application exceeds with TouchWiz on galaxy s 2.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1595236
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] verynuclear:
Do you mean the Original apk?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] wtr_dhd:
edit: nevermind :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
try this..... tested work with french language :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] j@cks:
First let me say thank you for your work!! as a side note, if you consider this as a good idea, you may complement you work adding the function of opening the clock application when we touch the hours or minutes part of the widget.

Thanks again.

Regards

J@cks
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] chilipower:
I actually joined the forum today, just to ask for that :D . Oh well, somebody has been quicker.

So.. yes I agree, this would make this widget perfect for me.

Good job making this widget!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] bosas200:
For me too!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Marcdu81:
Hello, what about Sense_3.5_4x1_Clock_Weather_Widget ? Cound we hope an update with french language ? Thanks .
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] ceasee:
Works on my Skyrocket (i727R) running Sky-ICS (2.3.6) with Go Launcher Ex.

Thanks! Ive been looking for something like this since I swapped my Vivid for my Skyrocket.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] ngh55:
Hey guys, I own beautiful widgets but no clock compares to this, awesome job, just a small request, is there a way I can switch the app launched when clicking the weather icons from this clock so it shows the beautiful widgets animation instead?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Yngwie Malmsteen:
thanks..... this is it ....:)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Marcdu81:
Thanks a lot, it works perfectly !
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] DeltaHF:
Nice :):)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] petit.ce:
Merci!

That works! Thank you very much =D :) :) :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Pedda Lyng:
Cool. Good work. is there a chance to get a german version ?

Greetings
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] gollyzila:
The qHD test 7 is working very well on my Motorola Photon 4G.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] khomah:
The short one looks really nice! Thank you very much!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Heatseeker14:
Looks awesome!

A little bit too big for my Desire HD, but looks very close to the original one!

Could have been perfect if redirecting directly to the Clock/Alarm App, instead of settings!

That's how I do to plan my Alarms usually : one click on the widget.

Maybe you can improve that!

Good job man.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Jjday7:
Using this on my GSII and it looks awesome but I have to agree that it would be great if it went to the ICS alarm clock instead of settings. That would make it complete.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] jav92:
Does this works on Samsung Galaxy S2 or just sense devices? The clock "flip" effect of htc phones works?? thanks
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] drewcam888:
Works on about any phone but no clock flip
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] suku_patel_22:
Here is the difference between the actual sense 4 and this widget

The one at the bottom is the actual sense 4

...

Swyped from my Desire S waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Double0EK:
^ Not too bad if you ask me

Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Phoenix-Lead:
Only 2 degrees difference ;) not bad at all! Haha
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] suku_patel_22:
Sent it just for reference, not reporting a bug :)

Swyped from my Desire S waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] niktey:
Thanks
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] ErisDev:
Hey this is great! My only problem is I get no weather. When I click the bar that should have the weather it says no forcasts available. Any advice?

EDIT: I got it working by manually entering my location. Any way to get it to automatically pick up my location?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abhaxus:
I've been trying to play around with LCD density to get some honeycomb apps working properly, and I've found that LCD density at 120 makes CNN, IMDB, accuweather, and the stock launcher treat the view like a 10" tablet. The stock launcher goes to the full grid size, and IMDB goes to the sweet BC version. The others just stop force closing. However, the only problem I have is that scrolling looks horrible. Moving up and down in almost any list causes the text to become tiny and the animation ghosts quite a bit. Any ideas or workarounds?

Also, I can't seem to get the density to stick through a reboot. I have it saved with LCD density changer, but the only option that works is the temp/preview change one.

Edit: I edited build.prop myself and now density is sticking I think. Guess that app isn't compatible with honeycomb.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] neuteboomt:
When I tried changing the density with ROM Toolbox I had issues with sense loading after a reboot. Have you seen this?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abhaxus:
The sense launcher doesnt work very well, I replaced it with stock hc launcher from desensed rom and it looks really nice. I plan on compiling a list of apps that work better/worse at different densities when I get my tablet back (loaned it to someone to finish their semester with)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] neuteboomt:
I appreciate the response. Look forward to your list.
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
Like the title says. (Not your current phone)

Me: Samsung Vibrant

LG G2x

Htc Inspire
[Motorola Atrix 2] Chrisruns:
My friends galaxy s 2 :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
To me its a wee bit over hyped...lol...
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
Oh, also, my old lg optimus t :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] calebcoverdale:
LG G2X....... just got into the android scene - I am still waiting for my Atrix to come, this is when living in Belize sucks, because there is only so much reading you can do before you want to have your hands on a device :),
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
Lol. I feel ya. I still do tons of reading till i can wheel and deal on craigslist and get what i want.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Hondo209:
Nextel I780

Sanyo Katana

Sanyo Katana II

Samsung Captivate...:o:o
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
Loved the cappy but my hands werent steady enough to use a rigged usb jig and my wife got tired of fixing my soft bricks....lmao
[Motorola Atrix 2] tmease1:
HTC Aria

Samsung Captivate

Samsung Infuse
[Motorola Atrix 2] ewandroid:
lg optimus one (p500)
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
Just wish the infuse was dual core. My wife is using it.

Sensation 4g

Amaze 4g
[Motorola Atrix 2] phillynitro:
Bb 9700

Samsung infuse loved it

Htc vivid white hated it

Iphone 4 yeah i know

Now atrix 2 its my favorite so far

On tmobile had

Samsung behold 2

G1

Mytouch 3g

Cliq and clit xt

Verizon

had

Lg ally

Droid 1

Droid eris

Been on android since g1 so no stranger to the platform
[Motorola Atrix 2] Chrisruns:
I like the SII because it's pretty on par with the Atrix 2. Seems to have a LOT more development going on too...but I know why that is. ;)
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
Ive never had verizon. Lol.
[Motorola Atrix 2] tmease1:
I've turned it into a gaming phone for my kids and it's just a back up phone now.
[Motorola Atrix 2] DarkJatrix:
Yea, the atrix 2 and gs2 are, on paper, little different. In the real world, my oppinion, atrix 2 seems more smooth