yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
Here, since SnowPluralism hasn't replied yet, I've tried myself. Try and post your results later. ;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Thank u bro ... i've benn full of work ...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Prash_:
works great..:)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
You're welcome :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
May I ask from which ROM you got the Stock MMS app? I'm on XWKTM and it force-closes everytime I send an sms, or try to open an sms thread. Also, I cannot recompile my MMS apk, it always give me an error. :(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
I took Almost a day to make that one work! Try The One From Attachment

When i came up with this. it was made from DDQK8
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
Did you get some error about unformatted strings? Or something like "expected </plural> found </item>"? If yes, please PM me saying how did you managed to make it work!

Thanks again!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ankur1801:
i try to install this on my ace running stocklite v7.1 it does't install on it

pls tell me how to do so plsssssssss

thanks in advance
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
This is not meant to be installed. This has to be pushed to system.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ankur1801:
Man i used it on my stocklite v7.1 first it works but then it force closes pls help man plsssss

Thanks in advance :):):):):):)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
+1 to this. The Mms.apk from Stocklite cannot be re-compiled after a decompile, it always gives error. I think that users of XWKTM should live without this :(

Can someone test this on stocklite (or any other stock ROM) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1629138 ? If this works, then our problem is solved, I think.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] steveboy:
i need MMS.APK for S5830XWKS9 2.3.5

Dear friend,

First of all i want to thank you for all your work here.

I am using stock S5830XWKS9 2.3.5 ROM which is ODEXED :( I will attach my MMS.apk file in order to change it to unlimited reciepements and to 100 sms in order to change to MMS.

Greetings from Greece!!! :o :cowboy:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Shivam Bector ^_*:
Force Closes on Stocklite v7.1 :(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
I'm on vacation when i come back i'm gonna release an updated mod of this :) take care
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Shivam Bector ^_*:
Thanks(Pressed) for the support! You Rock :victory: :laugh:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] hellmainia:
pls mod this one also sir
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Later on i'll do it :) and also gonna update this thread
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Mod Done
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] lokeshtak:
sir can u plz mod mms.apk of galaxy mini......its very annoying to have mms conversion ......and 10 limit.....can you mod it for 100 page for 100 contect.... i have attached the mms apk.....thanx in advance....:angel:...its stock 2.3 ddkq7 mms apk.. .
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] hellmainia:
No change in this mod bro only apk file size reduced...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
Have you tried?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Give me a bit :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] hellmainia:
Yes i tried it on sgm ddkq7 but no chaange in it
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Today i'll check it
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] hellmainia:
oky
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Shivam Bector ^_*:
Hey Dude! 1st of all hope you had a nice vacation :p

Could you please mod this one for me! :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] gamerM:
thanks alot! :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ErickBG:
I have installed the ROM AceCream V1.1 on my galaxy ace and this mod dont works and the app closes on it,can you fix them?

This is the app:

View attachment 1315152
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] celarbi:
i am using cm7 but cannot do successful with file u posted. here is my mms.apk please help me..thank u so much

btw..i am using cm7 for HD2 hope u can do it.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
I Tried But I Wasnt Able To Do It ... The File Is Somehow Different
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] hellmainia:
What happened bro
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ErickBG:
I think its because that is apk is from a Xperia or some like these, I changue the Mms apk for the stock of samsung and replace with the Mms for Deodexed Rom but dont work and close

What Mms.apk I have to use the Mms for Deodexed Rom or the Mms for Odexed? I have the Ace Cream ROM
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Deodexed i guess
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ErickBG:
I try with the Mms.apk for deodexed but when the phone starts after copy the apk and reboot the aplication needs to close because an error and this happens always that I try to open the aplicacion :(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
then i have no idea :/ sorry
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
Why im getting force close when i open someone to reply? Using stocklitle 7.1 rom and its own kernel...

---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:14 PM ----------

Message app opens normally, but when i click on someone to open the chat thing, it FC...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Because this doesnt work on xwktm i'll upload later an update for this :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
// Portuguese mode on

Por favor faz-o depressa, mas com o selo de qualidade do Snow :D Adoro o teu trabalho aqui! Vou te deixar um PM ;D

// Portuguese mode off

Just giving him congratz for the effort and dedication on xda ;D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] deeppit:
is it compatible with S5830i ? I tried one time and it not works
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
op updated :)

enjoy​
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] DevilMind007:
will it work on my ROM ??

see my signature Screen Capture for info about my ROM..

Thank you waiting for your response
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] DaNiElCoRe:
Working fine in ktm rom stock

Thanks a lot
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
yes it will
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Shivam Bector ^_*:
Finally working on Stocklite v7.1 (XWKTM) :thumbup: :D

Sent from my lovely Ace :P
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Glad it worked ... And i am sorry for taking a long time to update this but i was tired as hell because of work life school ... :) and i delayed this a lot but is up to date now :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Shivam Bector ^_*:
Nevamind that dude! Don't be sorry! We all love that mod, and you rock! ;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
still converting to mms :/

---------- Post added at 07:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:48 PM ----------

How is it working on you? For me it still says converting and change to mms... i flashed it like instructions said so..

No msg icon disapeared also...

Another edit: I now went to system and check the Mms.apk has no changes since 8 october. meaning it didnt changed nothing :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Shivam Bector ^_*:
Well instead of flashing, i had extracted the mms.apk and moved it to system, set permissions as rw-r-r

And it works well for me..! Take a look at the attatched img!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
thats so awsome :/ I'll try like u said :)

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------

Flashing it didn't work, but like you said, works nice :D Thx Snow for this awsome mod! :)

---------- Post added at 10:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 PM ----------

The only avaible version are this ones? I wanted for my GF phone also, a galaxy GIO 2.3.6 (not sure what kind of version is it) (é portuguesa xD)

Shes using a fully stock rom, didnt change it since the phone came home..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Can u give me here phones Mms.apk ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
My girlfriend Mms.apk?

---------- Post added 18th October 2012 at 12:18 AM ---------- Previous post was 17th October 2012 at 11:54 PM ----------

Any way to decrease the delay when you click the send button and when it appears on the sms conversation? It takes like 0,4-0,5 milliseconds, while the stock one was max 0,2 milliseconds. Not much as a bug, but it annoys me:) seems slow to send multiple and fast sms for the fun:)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
Another "bug". When scrolling up for old messages or whatever, it constantly sends u to the alast message received. That way u cant heck like the first message on ur conversation.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
that is a samsung error not mine. i have that since i can remember ... but if u wait a bit when that happens ... u can scroll it without problems :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
This happens because the app is still sending the message. The longer the message, the longer the time this will happen will be. So wait a few seconds, lets say 3 or 4, and try to scroll up.

Another good way is to use delivery reports. When the receiver gets the message, you'll get the notification and then you can scroll without any problems.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Marcio2233:
much obliged
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] DNA_Uncut:
I have stock lite custom rom, cmw, root explorer. Which one i should choose in the two links. I just want the unlimited sms. No problem with the mms as i get it seldom.

thank you
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Xwktm
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] char68:
I apologize if the question has already been made.

I have a rom based version XWKTQ.

I can use this ROM on your mod??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
yes :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] John Deere Italy:
Is it possible mod mms.apk for stock rom XWKTQ?

Here is the apk
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Use the one from xwktm ... Its the same one
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] John Deere Italy:
i've try to use it, but the app forced closed. I install it with cwm recovery zip
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
I'll see what i can do :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
I'm having this issue, that when i'm writing a SMS and one is sending, my SMS app goes black and goes to the main SMS app page again, not even saving the SMS im writing on "rascunho" style :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Mad_Lion:
What can I use for XXDLJ2?

Thanks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
Does it work with "Versão de banda base: S5660XXKT6" (galaxy Gio) ?

:)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
Bumpie :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
Few tips to you, buddy:

"Rascunho" in english is draft, "banda de base" is baseband and you need to put the file on /system/app, set permissions to 644 (rw-r--r--) and clear dalvik cache, but I'm not sure about this one. Also, maybe Gio has a different apk file, so this one won't work. But it is easy to do by yourself.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
I did all that mate :) Will clearing dalvik cache clear my XT9 words? I'm tired of loosing them, and I don't know how to backup them :). Is easy? Can you provide a step-by-step on how to do it please?:)

Thanks.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
As far as I know, there is no relation on dalvik cache and standard cache (which is where your XT9 words should get stored). So you can clear with no fear. Sometimes I even clear the dalvik cache just to force my phone to rebuild the apps dalvik cache so it would fix some errors.

I'm not at home right now, but I'll try to write you a tutorial as soon as I get home.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
Thanks m8! And can you tell me where i can backup my XT9 words? Since i'm portuguese i use alot of hifen words, and i write the word without hifen(so i add with hifen on XT9) so its faster. And i had alot of custom words aswell, all lost when instaling stocklite :P it would help ALOT! thanks :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ts_firehawk:
About the XT9, it is stored within samsung keyboard files. Any backup app that can backup personal data should be able to backup this with no problem.

Clearing dalvik cache won't delete your XT9 words, neither installing this mod. About the guide, are you familiar with apktool? If not, check here first: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1466100.

I don't remember right now where the codes need to be changed, so give me a bit of time so I can download and decomplile on my own, I'll tell you later :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] NunoPitbull:
Tried clearing dalvik cache, problem presists :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] spfc_jcp88:
I'm using VJLP4 Stock (brazilian one). Which of those should I choose ? DDKQ8, XWKTM or none of them ?

By the way, links are down!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Send me you're mms.apk
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] spfc_jcp88:
Here it is.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Try This
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] spfc_jcp88:
Thanks man! It really works :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] donslayer:
Ktm mms file

Hello ,

Can you please modify that for WXKTM ?

Download link in the first post is not working.

So if someone please do that :d

Thank u So MuCH
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] khurram_kool:
help!

can any one please help me regarding HTC X515E (HTC Evo 4G+)(Raider)(korean version of HTC Evo 3D) different names of same phone.

Well its rooted. in with root explorer.. 'system/apps' it has Mms.apk and Mms.odex files..

please help how can i remove sms limit.. text message changes from SMS to MMS after 90 charaters :-S
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
i nerver worked with htc nut i can give it a go!

sen me mms apk

and all the apk files under \system\framework\
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] picklepete:
Great stuff will definitely try this :good:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
Is available in this thread the mms.apk file modified for the stock rom S5830DXKT7?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
send me your mms.apk
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
In attachment the mms.apk original for the stock rom S5830DXKT7
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
There u gooo :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
Works perfectly. Thanks :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
i know it does xD I'm the best xD

just kidding! Glad it worked :) take care! happy new year!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
In addition to mod No mms Convertion + No recepient Limit on sms, it is also possible to have the mod " Sent time instead of received time of SMS for exact time information"?

Many Thanks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Believe me ... U dont want that on gingerbread ! It will give u a brutal head heck ! Because what will matter is the other person sent time meaning ... If his clock has different time ... Many times is new sms will appear before your new one
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
I've understand. Thanks anyway
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
Hi,

I've have update my Galaxy Ace with the last firmware for my country at the version S5830XWKTS-S5830ITVKT2.

I've extracte the original mms.apk file from the device, you may apply your changes.

Many thanks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Its posted on OP
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
Could you explain it better, because I did not understand.

thanks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Its on the first post !
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] morris2003:
The link for XWKTM Rom or Based Custom Rom's report "Invalid or Deleted File." --> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?6q25yd14odqmkou
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] escalibur1988:
Please modify my mms.apk. Thank you
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
I'll do it in q bit

... Please tell what rom does this belongs to
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Just Push It To System
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] escalibur1988:
My rom is S5830XWKTS.

Thank you
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ankur1801:
Man can you upload the mms apk for ddkq8 stock its urgent plsssss

Can you email it me
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
I'll see what i can dig up pm your email
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ankur1801:
ankur1801@gmail.com
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ankur1801:
mms

brother i am attaching my mms stock app pls edit this with 200 pg min after that conversion and unlimited reciptants pls its urgent brother :(:(:(:(:mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Supremium:
Help

Could you please also convert my file (no sms to mms conversion, no contacts limit, no message per hour limit), please? I'm using the stock Android 4.0.3 ROM for my device (ZOPO ZP100), rooted. Besides, what should I do with the converted file? Just replace the original one through root explorer or do I have to use flash tool? Thanks!

PS: My system is not deodexed
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ankur1801:
Brother pls convert it man i hv to snd msgs at a large scale and its vvery imp pls brother plssssss...................
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
I was out for some days doing it now
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ankur1801:
Brother till when would you be able to complete it

:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Supremium:
MMS file conversion

Take your time, mate, you are the one who is helping us. Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] nunosilvamourao:
Doubt Long SMSs

Hi people,

from reading this thread I think it can be the solution I'm looking for.

I have an Huawei X5, with Aurora ROM and I can't send sms's that are greater than 160*3 characters.

I've tried Handcent and GOSms but it remains the same..

Can you help me? If it's just a file that I need to replace with File Explorer can you tell me what's the file and I'll edit it myself if it's easy...

Thanks,
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] SnowPluralism:
Send me your mms apk decompiled
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drtnsnw:
I posted this in the Rezound are with no answers. Maybe someone here has seen this

OK, I have had this problem for a while, had another post but it got lost somewhere with no answers.

I sent my old Rezound in because of overheating issues. Have had easytether on it for a few months and loved it. When I got the replacement it did a wierd thing, it would connect to the internet fine, I could browse pages great but if I tried to watch a video it would slow to a stop after a minute or 2. If I tried to run a speedtest it would jump up to 8 or 9 mgps then fall off and never finish the test it just starts falling until there is nothing.

I convinced VZW to replace it again and now the second new phone does the exact same thing. I tried another computer same thing. Restored phone to factory fresh, same thing!!! Could it be my sim card?? Oh yeah, I tried one of the other wired programs with the same result

Please help me, this is driving me nuts and the company that built easytether are NO HELP!!!!

Chris
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The-Captain:
Sounds like it defiantly has to be your sim card or location. Did you recently change location? It sounds like it has to do with your location.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drtnsnw:
Nope, no location change. Matter of fact I have not even left town when it started happening.

Is there a way to reboot or restore the sim??

Chris
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oshhh:
Are you on win xp sp2 ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drtnsnw:
win7 64 bit
[Defy General] hah2110:
What ROM is able to be a daily driver with the defy for T-Mobile?
[Defy General] hah2110:
BUMP........
[Defy General] hah2110:
Can someone please just tell me what ROM is a stable driver for ICS on the regular TMO Defy?
[Defy General] mckarty:
seriously? read the threads don't be lazy:rolleyes:
[Defy General] hah2110:
I've read parts of each thread but there is no thread with a sum of all the roms and up to date info. It is impossible to read through 1000 pages to determine which rom is usable. Why can't someone just help someone out?
[Defy General] Swift2603:
Why can't you just wait to let the devs finish their work? All ROMS are kind of pre-alpha status, so if you want to have a reliable phone, stick with your stock software. Elsewise try experimenting and find the ROM fulfilling your needs!
[Defy General] hah2110:
PRE-ALPHA? I didn't know they were all Pre-Alpha. Which one is the closest to daily driver but doesn't have every bell and whistle? I have a Defy as a secondary phone and want to give ICS a whirl.

Thanks
[Defy General] Swift2603:
From my own experience I can recommend Epsylons' build from 19-March

http://defy-cm.net/defy-cm9-nightly/
[Defy General] hah2110:
Ok and then is anything else necessary to get it working, IE new kernel, etc.?
[Defy General] vap_66:
Epsylon3's build from 19.03 is for the Froyo Kernel. You can use this kernel only with the Defy (green and red lens), not with Defy+. For Defy+ you need a build for the GB kernel (the latest being the one from 18.03 by quarx).

So, if you have a Defy and you're on the Froyo kernel and CM7 you can simply flash the 19.03 ICS build after wiping data, cache and Dalvik cache (and after flashing ICS wipe cache and Dalvik cache again). You'll also need to flash the new ICS gapps.
[Defy General] Swift2603:
I assume you are familiar with rooting, 2ndInint, CWM and so on?! If not follow this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1216982

Otherwise you should start over with this:

Flash a fixed sbf with Froyo from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=966537.

Install CM7 (latest stable) from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1553782

And afterwards CM9 from here: http://defy-cm.net/defy-cm9-nightly/

And don't even think of porting all your apps with Titanium to CM9 - this can give you lots of trouble. Just make a clean install. If you have any trouble just use the forums' search function :D 99% of the questions you may want to ask, have been asked and answered already. Don't be lazy :p
[Defy General] adamo3957:
Read the threads next time 90% of them tell you the state in the 1st post, if you would read them you would know, why ask the same question a hundred times, it clogs the forum

teamwork makes the dream work
[Kindle Fire General] feroxcvpiditas:
[SOLVED]

Hello all,

So I went to turn on my Fire and wanted to boot into recovery so I long pressed the power button (+20 secs). Now my Fire won't start up. I get the momentary green light which comes on but no boot up - just a black screen.

Any ideas...i.e. help? Cheers.

For info I'm running (or I am normally...hehe) CM9. Cheers bis...
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
does the green light stay on if you turn it on ?

or is it "blinking" - like it reboots ?

cm9 seems to drain the battery in some conditions

may be charging with the wall charger for some hours helps

do you see a sort of backlight on the black screen ?

would verify it with hard power down to see the difference
[Kindle Fire General] feroxcvpiditas:
The green light only comes on for a second after pressing the power button. The screen is completely black. What is a "hard power down"?

Also, plugged into the outlet there is no light, charging or otherwise.

Cheers for your response and help. Much appreciated.
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
hard power down is meant to hold the power button for ~20sec - till it turns off

if you plug it to the wall charger it can last up to half an hour till the orange light comes up when the battery is heavily drained - would recommend to let it on the charger over night in such a case