yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Are you here to play cheerleader for the home team?

What stuff? Three different types of cache support, with multiple vm methods, tons of schedulers, and a bunch of other stuff that is duplicated when there are only a portion of them that will ever provide any use.

Beats audio might improve audio even if it is unsupported, but in most ICS ROMs, it is just extra weight and the added bonus can be achieved using the standard audio drivers and good DSP settings. It's a hook, kind of like buy one get one free. Anything can improve stuff if you believe in it.

When he starts "infecting" it? Is that supposed to sound threatening? It's an aftermarket kernel. It can be as nice as it wants to, but just remember it needs a build to work, lol. I don't care if it runs great or like crap, I am just curious what makes it special besides a bunch of stuff I have seen every pyramid kernel use. It wasn't an insult, it was a "so what is the secret ingredient?"

You people and your bunched panties. No wonder your developers have to transition to external forums. They always have kids running around starting gang wars with people for questioning their almighty leader.
[HTC EVO 3D] kenpen:
to twisted

THANKS FOR EVERYTHING......

i know u busy and i have no clue what it takes to add nav bar for evo 3d..

but we await that option

i know you said something about it a few pages back
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
well first off RD i feel is a status that needs to be earned - you can earn through hard work dedication and (cheerleaders) for your development, second of all there are top quality aspects of "AnthraX" which "Infect" a users phone basically if you haven't flashed it to know I would not insult its developer and his COUNTLESS HOURS OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION - you refer to beats as a bonus that can be achieved using stock drivers -

well that just shows who has never listened to beats audio to begin with

BEATS - (your idea of a bonus that can just be replaced with stock audio drivers consists of the following)

32 active equalization profiles that change in accordance to the audio signature of the music your listening to - at 96 times a second - 96kz sound - 48000kz

sound which is so clean its hard to determine what speaker it comes from when playing it crisp clear sound their slogan is as follows "hear the music the way the artist intended it" theres a reason for that - this technology can actually be used to reverse engineer music if you wanted to you would know what ballad - synth - kick - snare - anything basically the artist used if you just gave half an ear and half a **** :)

and under no condition can you even relate Goodmans work to anything aftermarket - that entails cheaply produced duplicates of a genuine piece just for you to know he left XDA because he produced that genuine piece and those who created anything aftermarket could't accept that fact.

and finally the only panties in a bunch are yours my friend id expect a much higher level of respect and humility coming from one of the highest ranked positioned individuals in this community - if RD was given upon conduct you would be so far away from it you wouldn't even dream of such a title...

now XDA and its loyal members gave you a title honor it and act with some measure of respect.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Settle down.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
It is earned, but not by dealing with punks coming on a thread and taking an honest assessment and turning it into a spitting match. I don't really have the attitude you are assuming I do by responding like a tool, but that's okay. I suggest you find another ROM to run because obviously this one does not fit your standards, so you are really just wasting both our time...

Oh and btw: aftermarket means installed after the manufacturing. Is the kernel included? No. If aftermarket parts make you think cheap, you need to find a new place to shop.

I do respect those who deserve it. If coming in here and throwing a fit like I called your mom fat deserves respect, well then they really should just start handing out the RD status to everyone. BTW, I do hope you are not one of the people running to Chad and telling him I am going to sabotage his kernel from running on my ROM. The reason I am not a fan of his work is not the quality of the work, but rather the quality of people that start flooding in with it.
[HTC EVO 3D] .:[K]!nG_D:.:
play cheerleader? lol you must be mad bro

i bet your bamboozled because you try to make something that only accepts a certain kernel and Chad has the skill to make his work lol people these days so butt hurt over nothing

xda has gone to the dogs man so much for COMMUNITY
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
The currently included kernel is a stock kernel with just enough added to run smooth. There are alternates available. Considering not every user can boot with the included kernel, I will not take steps to prevent compatibility.

The build may change, and things may update that will cause lost functionality in the kernel. This is why my source is at current to the build as it is. These changes can be tracked, replicated, and accounted for.

There will be no more outbursts. This is a forum and despite the name Playground, it is not where people go to sell drugs and beat up other kids. I do not take much of this seriously. Yes, when my email is going off with questions about false claims and (ironically) the same false claims are being made on the thread despite the facts, there needs to be a time out so everyone can place their head back on straight.

I will not close the thread again for this garbage, but this is a community. There are many ROMs, many kernels, developers, testers, etc. If you want us all to work together, do not try to throw rocks and say "it was him".

If someone says they don't understand something hoping that someone with more information might explain it in a calm, reasonable manner, then don't be "that guy." I can't speak for anyone else, but I am tired of how out of hand this forum gets compared to the countless others out there, so download the build, don't download the build, use the bugtracker, don't use it, I don't care. Just stop getting all worked up over some text and pictures and I will do the same. Deal?
[HTC EVO 3D] outrage_uk:
Thanks for all your work twisted - even if I never get to try it out, i still appreciate it.

... If you ever want to develop for GSM, get my name down as an alpha tester... we're nice over there ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] PMGRANDS:
Is Data and WiFi working?
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Everyone is nice people just get a little too excited sometimes. It's my responsibility to control the chaos and i'm still learning.

Yes, unless I broke it in the last build. I didn't do a very prolonged test.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigboidomo:
Volume jumps when playing music and sounds gets all garbled and distorted when getting a notification while playing music.. Is this an known issue? Currently running in boot manager if that's the problem

Sent from my EVO shooting u n 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
I've heard of issues with the music player causing volume jumps. Ill have to look into it. I wasn't aware it had made it into this build as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigboidomo:
I didn't realize it was only music player, and as long as I have pandora km good xD thanks for all your work!

Sent from my EVO shooting u n 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
I think it is. I will submit a report for that so I double check when I load up the build again.
[HTC EVO 3D] kMogs17:
Thanks for your work twisted. my phone is also one of the unfortunate ones that refuses to boot your rom. so i will be trying chads kernel with my fingers crossed. wish i could run yours stock though so i didnt have to worry about compatability
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
I wish I could find a way to force the issue to find out what it is.
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
I know there is a bug tracker on the web site, but since I run it on boot manager, I thought I would post here in case anyone else has the same setup.

No data, only wifi. But if I switch to affiliated networks, it shows roaming, just still no data.
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
i honestly dont mean to come back here again ..........

but it kills me as to why i cant find an explanation for this......

make fun of its uselessness then commit it - hmmmm honestly your funny.

that box of new features for Chads new release was not your blueprint for your next kernel...

or was it?

I mean in all honesty i believe some thanks in your OP are in order?????
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
I wanted to test it for myself. I am sure in the outstanding effort you took to track every change I made down to the minute, you will notice both of those commits are cherry-picks dating back to about 1-2 weeks and about a month ago respectively. I assume you aspire to one day be a developer yourself, so let me give you some good advice.

Asking the use of something is not making fun of someone, but rather trying to understand the reasoning for something you don't necessarily have a reasonable explanation for.

When the possibility arrises you should always test something for yourself. Do not take the word of some random clown that parades through threads claiming there is only one way to do things. Try them, otherwise you have no basis to accept or deny how beneficial they are.

I won't try to overwhelm you with a lot more than that, since it will only lead to more ramblings justifying why the opinion of another ROMs elite tester actually matters when it was devalued by the quality of feedback you provide. Take care.
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
So in that case in regards to your advice to me, Flash AntrhaX Take Care.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Sure. If that is what you found to be best, by all means. That is why there are options. I'm glad you're starting to understand but I am curious how terrible the build must be to motivate such persistence to work from it.

I do apologize you had to take the effort of a screenshot, uploading, and linking an image. The github stats are still being tested to replace changelogs.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Guys, let Chad defend himself. You don't have to be the Internet police force. The point of the matter is that we want a more functional and stable ROM instead of higher synthetic benchmark scores and Beats audio. Chad's kernel is a good aftermarket kernel but it does not create miracles. I for one would rather have Twisted and Co. get everything more stable than have to worry about aftermarket kernels breaking even more stuff.

Tl;Dr: Take it to PMs guys. This is a development forum, not a drama forum.
[HTC EVO 3D] Neogenx:
Couldn't agree more - very well said.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
I think part of the hostility is people have the idea that there is a need to defend yourself against questions. Many have questioned my reasoning, him included, for doing things the way I do. Saying you don't get it is being honest, not inconsiderate. Parliament, Senate, Congress were all put in place simply to question the person in charge, so its a pretty common procedure.

But yes, that is exactly the reasons I was curious about the methods and features. Getting things more stable without worrying about issues stemming from different parts until the list of preexisting issues allows room. I can say "I can't provide troubleshooting (since I think using the word support confused some into sending out the stupid emails saying I was attempting to block the kernel) for a secondary kernel" all I like, but there will still be a large portion of the crowd with issues that don't know if they are kernel related, miss the statement, or report them anyway. I would rather not just ignore them.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
That's fine and all. Except for people like me, who can't get the majority of ICS ROMs to boot on anything except Chad's kernel.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
I am happy there is an alternative out there that works in those situations. I'm just hoping the price of having it isn't a recurring issue like yesterday.

New version was uploaded with the right gps fix included. Got my group permissions mixed up on the first one but now it's all better.
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
Were always here to help people like you Liquid :)
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
I just want to clarify; while I'll be using Chad's kernel, I'm going to be fully aware that I'm using a kernel that Twisted didn't develop his ROM with, therefore, I'm going to feed any bug reports I have directly to Chad, and not bug Twisted about things not working.

Hopefully that clarifies what I meant.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
sigh... silently wonders when the whole E3D forum will be shut down.

thanks for the ROM OP.

and to the trolls... i wont feed you... you know what you did.
[HTC EVO 3D] kMogs17:
Me too. i think my issues started when i had to bring my phone in to get the touch screen replaced i can guarantee this though because i wasnt even aware of your rom (or it wasnt out yet) at the time. that said, before i got the touch screen replaced im pretty sure i booted evervolv ics rom, and now i cant boot that either so idk. fortunately liquidsolstice appears to say that chads kernel works for him so hopefully it works for me too
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
It is entertaining to watch someone wear down their f5 key sounding spiteful when they are supporting the build just as much by recommending ways to improve it.
[HTC EVO 3D] NYCHitman1:
If it's any consolation, I like what you are doing here Twisted. Keep up the great work buddy.

"Never mind what the haters say, ignore them and they'll fade away."

I love Chad's work too, but I'm no sheeple.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
I'm going to say this only once.

The crap that has been filling this thread is the kind of crap that needs to be in a pm conversation.

Chad does some excellent work with his kernels, but we don't need dramatic effects here of calling people out. PM the guy, if he doesn't respond get me involved. I've been less active here recently due to some family illness. But chad knows I will get involved.

Twisted also doesn't have to like or use Chad's kernels, it's his rom, his prerogative.

No more of this bickering back and forth, this isn't aiding in development, only causing problems for the devs and end users. So let's get back on topic, if you need to discuss it further take it to PM. PM me if you have any concerns.

Thanks to everyone for their cooperation.
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
This is a long shot, but reading that you had your phone serviced made me think of a situation my friend had where he could not boot a certain rom but he could load others though. No matter what it wouldn't boot on his device...Long story short it turned out his front facing camera was not plugged into the motherboard correctly. After connecting it right it booted into the rom. Just throwing that out there.
[HTC EVO 3D] kMogs17:
Fascinating. and ive been running joelz ics rom so idk if my camera even works lol :). i will look into it though thanks. im assuming when you say it wasnt plugged in correctly you mean that the camera would not work at all so i could test this without having to bring it in and have it looked at?
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
Yes, If I remember right the front facing cam wasn't working in the roms he was able to boot into...and worked fine after the correction. So yeah test it out on a rom that has functional front facing, best of luck.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
What he said. I do not dislike Chad's kernel. I do not dislike Chad. It will not change a thing about the ROM itself or my saying "use it if it works or you feel its better for you"

What isn't acceptable is people parading through threads acting like they are supporting their favorite kernel developer by blatantly pushing ROM developers to not want to support the kernel just to get those people off the thread.

If you have any further comments to make about the situation, please feel free to hit the PM button and type out your entire rant. My messages are turned off, so you won't get an answer, but at least you'll feel better.
[HTC EVO 3D] kMogs17:
ok so i havent tested the camera yet but i thought i would share some success. i grabbed chads twisted kernel and finally i am able to boot! usb mount does not appear to work but it does seem to be charging, a previous member said charging didnt work hopefully there are not too many other issues but it looks good so far!
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Working on a USB fix now, and if needed to get the fix to work, a 3.0 kernel that is AOSP-based
[HTC EVO 3D] kMogs17:
That would be awesome maybe if you put a 3.0 kernel in there I would be able to boot without switching kernels! Right now on Chad's kernel I get fcs on basically any gapps but especially play store and maps
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
At least it would be a step in the right direction. It also minimizes the difference between things like Chad's kernels because it will no longer be 2.6.39 to 3.0 so there is less chance an issue would be because of the kernel versioning.

Had to stop and update the site though now that kushdeck got us some github RSS-style display. Now people with a need to know the latest commits can see everything up to the minute without having to dig through each project
[HTC EVO 3D] Zeroskhaos:
Does A2DP work on this rom? I've been looking for an ics that has that feature working since I use it everyday. Thanks, I only ask because the first page says it has Bluetooth working but doesn't say anything about A2DP.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
It should. It was reported to.
[HTC EVO 3D] luis4ever:
After trying the ROM i will post my results.

-First time booted fine, got a reboot while configuring my account settings which ended in a bootlop, after that i pulled off the battery and booted fine.

-After booted got 4 reboots, every 2 minutes.

-Reflashed the ROM. No luck.

-Downloaded and Flashed the ROM again. No luck. Got reboots every 1 minute. 5 reboots after 4 minutes on battery doesn't like to my phone.

Went back to MeanROM for now.
[HTC EVO 3D] Royalfox:
Downloading from dev host atm. Do i need gapps? Cuz i cant find a link

Inviato dal mio PG86100 utilizzando Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Already included. You can flash others over them if you like though.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Please look over the thread when you have time. A few others have faced the same issue and there are some options available.

Uploading the build that just finished but already started a new one to test some other media changes.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zeroskhaos:
Well I just upgraded to this and what's funny is I forgot to wipe the device and I started it up. It optimized my apps and Bluetooth A2DP works incredibly well, no issues so far. Thanks a lot! I would also like to add that the Bluetooth controls work as well. Phone is great, data works wifi works, camera doesn't but we all know that. For me no force closes and everything seems to work as it should. Now I'm off to wait for 4g. Your awesome, keep up the great work.
[HTC EVO 3D] magicalan:
hows the progress in the camera :) great rom
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Someone moderator should make a script for your account, that whenever you type the word "camera" in an ICS thread, you get an infraction. Please just stop, please, for the love of God.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Restored slimer and working on a novelty camera more or less. Kushdeck got everything in place and needed some well-deserved break time so just compiling a build to see if camera itself can be hacked to get normal pictures out of at least one of the cameras.
[HTC EVO 3D] motoelliot:
Why doesn't my camerOUCH! OK, sorry... Sorry...

Sent from 3D A.W.E.S.O.M-O
[HTC EVO 3D] Roll3r:
See, I figure by now it's some kind of performance art, not stupidity or even mere trolling. I mean, it's literally multiple posts per thread asking the same thing, with no follow-up posts, no apologies, no self-awareness, etc. I like to think maybe we're all unknowingly part of some Harvard Medical student's doctoral dissertation in Psychology.
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Does this ROM take pictures?
[HTC EVO 3D] cjdalessio:
Works for me. I use Autodesk's sketchbook myself. No video though.
[HTC EVO 3D] bk718:
That dude been asking about camera progress since AOSP builds for the HTC Hero.. Some things never change..
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
I know, I was there too.

/looks for xda account nuke button...
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
You know, I'm going to be brutally honest here; the hardware camera on this phone is such **** to begin with that I really, really couldn't care less about having it. If you remember, I don't think they produce any better of an image than the Hero did. '

However, I do massively applaud and appreciate the work being put into getting it going.
[HTC EVO 3D] Eternity-3D:
Not looking for drama, but Chad does have a fully working Linux 3 Kernel for the Sensation, and Rezound and a booting Linux 3.0 kernel (with wifi issues on ICS MIUI and no wimax or camera drivers) for the EVO 3D that required a OpenDSP firmware update to boot. just some food for thought... (maybe ask him for assistance ???? )
[HTC EVO 3D] tatnai:
annnnnd.... GPS works! todays build 1600 in dev-host. thanks Twisted.

ignore the naysayers (i know, you already do), you do awesome work.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Usb needs to be modified in the ramdisk. The 3.0 kernel is to pull the drivers from to fix ours. If he has a github that is useful. If he has a prebuilt kernel that won't be anything I can't hit download to myself. I should also reiterate that "as close to stock as possible" refers to the cm9 origin. They also have a shooter 3.0 kernel which is what I intend to jump from.

You've provided enough assistance. I would rather leave things as they are and not get involved with your team. Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
I've been getting some FCs and also weird issues with apps taking a LONG time to open. I install through boot manager but I did check the large boot option or whatever. Thoughts? I've tried installing twice now from wipe to see if it helps but its the same either way
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Is it specific apps?
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
No. Seemingly random but once they are in memory its OK.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
The first install it seemed like the system was hanging every 10 seconds or so. Made me think kernal? Second install is better besides app issue
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
Second install could be system hanging less often but things seems smooth besides loading from long term memory
[HTC EVO 3D] magicalan:
lol yes i have...someone replied that not yet..and i just wanted to know the progress since most of the people just fight over different things that have nothing to do with roms and i have to read 50 pages of that to actually get something..:D
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Are you using the most recent version?

The most recent test included two kernel features I wanted to get some testing on, one of which I was skeptical about (fudgeswap) which seems to be playing out how I thought it might. Ill have to do some testing and see if I can tweak it or it will be removed for the next build.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
Yes I am on the newest version
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
Would installing a new kernel help you narrow it down at all? If so is there a particular one I should try or are you pretty sure you know what's up
[HTC EVO 3D] :
So with the new update do I need to flash c Goodman kernel to boot or no?
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Pretty sure I have it figured out just don't want to blame a feature for my settings before making a decision

In your case I think it's a requirement. I remember mention of not being able to boot before.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
There's this really cool button at the top of each thread called "search". It does the reading 50 pages for you. Learn it.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
Lol, ironically that post was against the same issue it contributed to. Hypocrite!

Edit: too many lols are inversely effective.