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[HTC EVO 3D] JCM99:
ah that's lame. but i understand they want to push their new flagship devices. doesn't matter to me much anyway, been using custom ROMs
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Sense 4.0 looks and functions a lot like SPB Shell 3D anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] spyrostz:
Have tried sensation's ICC + sense 3.6. Very very fast!

It has some problems with 3g connecticity although.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Yeah wondered the same thing if anything 3.0 is morr like it right....
[HTC EVO 3D] dmband64:
One day official ICS will come, but Newts 4.0 rom will still rock it's socks off with Sense 4.0 instead of 3.6! Thanks Newt!
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Yeah Sense 4.0 is similar in a lot of ways to SPB Shell 3D. Sense 3.0 is nothing at all like it.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
If by similar you mean extremely different, then yes.
[HTC EVO 3D] crisvillani:
its out : http://rootzwiki.com/topic/24783-ev...o-sense-edition-100-rc1-sense-36-android-403/
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
"HTC Evo 3D CDMA Final ICS RUU 1.13.652.1"
[HTC EVO 3D] Jakedude2011:
I think it will come............... TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
"1.13.652.1" huh?
[HTC EVO 3D] tgruendler:
Little wierd considering the CDMA is using build number 2.17.651.5....the RUU should be higher.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Nope, I mean extremely similar.
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
Thanks for the tip.:)
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
yeah... I think someone got some bad info there

2.17.xxx.x was the first (maybe 2nd) gingerbread update for the Evo 3D, with the 651 representing what model it was for (CDMA). I haven't seen any with a 652 yet.

ICS will be 3.xxx.651.x for the CDMA Evo 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Please, tell me how that 3D mess is anything like Sense 4.0 besides the fact that both feature widgets and app shortcuts on an array of homescreens that you can scroll through.

Tell me how:

this

Is anything like Sense 4.0.
[HTC EVO 3D] tgruendler:
Looks like it is based off the the Virgin Mobile RUU...not Sprints.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
You can get the Evo 3D for virgin mobile now? :confused:

It's possible, still doesn't quite pass the sniff test for me though. This will be the first time I've ever seen HTC break their pattern of having the first letter represent the version of Android.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Are you kidding me? Why don't you tell me how they are different then. I can only find a couple of (minor) differences.
[HTC EVO 3D] tgruendler:
Me neither...gonna wait for the guinea pigs to test it out before I flash. Looks like the firmware has a new Hboot 1.57 also.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
I'm good without it, looking through the build.prop I see at least three things that make me suspicious of it. It just doesn't match up to everything else I've ever seen from HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
1) The 3D carousel-like feature of SPB is not a feature of Sense 4.0. That goes for just dragging through the homescreens and rearranging them.

2) SPB allows you to keep folders expanded at all times.

3) Adding widgets is completely different; in SPB you leave the home screen, in Sense 4.0 you zoom out and drag and drop them.

4) Widgets work completely differently - Sense 4.0 has no 3D effect for the widgets.

5) Many different little differences, like how the app drawer scrolls.

Really, just number 1 makes the two VERY different. The WHOLE DRAW of SPB is the 3D effects, which Sense 4.0 does not have. There are almost no similarities that other launchers don't have as well.

I'm worried that you might have issues with your eyesight.
[HTC EVO 3D] VladBelsky:
I booted the GSM port and everything seems to work except the 3D camera results in a black screen and viewing a 3D photo results in two separate images and the parallax barrier getting stuck until a reboot. But the GSM port has no firmware package.
[HTC EVO 3D] bdff:
can you go to the recovery?
[HTC EVO 3D] VladBelsky:
Yep, recovery works fine for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Yeah, there's supposed to be an Evo V 4G for VM that is just a rebranded 3D. This would be the RUU leaked for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] bdff:
thanks will it download now. :)

sry ive a another question.

can i flash it without problem over a custom rom?
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
1: The carousel is not part of Shell 3D either. You can view the carousel if you want, but it is not there when scrolling through the home screens and when arranging them you have the choice to use a carousel or not.

2: SPB does allow you to keep folders expanded, but you don't have to.

3: Wrong, in SPB when you MOVE a widget, it zooms out and you stay on the home screen. When you ADD a widget, it stays right there on the home screen (full zoom) and you follow the menu (which opens up covering part of the home screen). You never "leave" the home screen in either case.

4: SPB Shell 3D has 3D affects for widgets, but it is disabled by default. You can enable it if you choose to though.

5: The app drawer is different. That is one of the minor differences between the 2.

I don't know if you've ever used SPB Shell 3D, but clearly the differences you outlined are not entirely accurate. Yes, you CAN set SPB shell 3D to do most of those things you mentioned. But no, you don't HAVE to set SPB Shell 3D to function as you mentioned.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Whaddayaknow, maybe the Evo 3D will get JB after all. If they're starting back at 1.xxx for ICS I'm assuming they plan on supporting it for awhile still.

The firmware zip doesn't happen to have an eng hboot with it does it? :D
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
So you're saying that if I got SPB shell 3D and disabled all of its features I would get something that kind of resembles Sense 4.0?

That's like saying I could get a Sense theme for ADW and then it's just like Sense.

It's not the same thing.

---------- Post added at 11:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 PM ----------

It had an hboot 1.57 or something to that effect in it.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
No, I'm saying what I said in the first place: Sense 4.0 looks a lot like SPB Shell 3D. You're the one who came in saying "If I do this and this and this I can make Shell 3D look different..."

You don't have to disable anything. Out of the box, they look a lot a like. Someone said Sense 3.0 was like Shell 3D but Sense 4.0 was totally different, and clearly they were mistaken.
[HTC EVO 3D] kdogg78:
what a stupid thing to argue over.....
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
You're the one who is mistaken.

You said: "Sense 4.0 looks and functions a lot like SPB Shell 3D anyway."

And yet the features are distinctly different. They function differently. I've used both. Even if you disable all of the features that make SPB 3D worth the $15 price tag it's still not that similar to Sense 4.0 in how it operates. They're only similar because they're both home launchers with home screens. Similarities end there..
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Yet you couldn't list any real differences. Only 1 minor difference (the way the app drawer looks).
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
You're the one who made the claim that they're similar anyway, so the burden of proof falls upon you.

I listed the major differences between the two and all you had to say about it was that they are optional. Well, they're still major features and the biggest parts of what makes SPB what it is. Their promotional video focused almost entirely on those features.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
So what? Your whole point appears to be "You can make SPB Shell look different if you want..."

So? That doesn't change the fact that you can also make it look and function almost exactly like Sense 4.0 too. In fact, it's not that you CAN make it look and function almost exactly like Sense 4.0, but it DOES look and function almost exactly like Sense 4.0 out of the box, and stays that way unless you start tweaking settings.

Again, the only difference you listed so far is the app drawer looks different.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Again, burden of proof falls upon you. You haven't given any proof or reason as to how they are "extremely similar" and yet I've provided differences in how they work.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
You haven't provided any differences. You only listed 1 minor difference- the app drawer. And I said there were minor differences.

I said they were similar. If you are saying I'm wrong, then the burden of proof is not on me, but on you. And if I point out that you are wrong, the burden of proof falls on me (and I gave the examples of where you were wrong already).

I don't want to argue semantics though. I said they were similar, and clearly they must be if even you, who has chosen to push the issue, can't point out a single major difference.

And yes, I know that SPB Shell 3D has MORE functionality than Sense. My point was that not having Sense 4.0 is not a big deal because SPB looks and functions the same anyways. It's like they tried to copy SPB Shell 3D when they made this version of Sense (much like they copied the older version of Shell when they made the last version of Sense).
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
"No, I'm saying what I said in the first place: Sense 4.0 looks a lot like SPB Shell 3D"

Burden of Proof: "When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim."

Prove what you're saying or else you cannot prove what I said to be false. I'm going to leave this thread now, because this conversation is going nowhere and you aren't adhering to the standard rules of debate.
[HTC EVO 3D] BrianBaker:
I love you guys but c'mon already...you're never going to get through to him Sora,he's never wrong..and I want some more info on these leaks.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
I'm sorry for cluttering up the thread. :(
[HTC EVO 3D] BrianBaker:
It's all good man...just saving you from a never ending battle..You will be countered at every point you attempt to make...

Now will I be flashing ICS tonight or what? Is this thing able to give us a working camera on CDMA?
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
I just downloaded what is presumably a fixed version of the ROM. I'm about to flash it, and I'll get back to you if it works.
[HTC EVO 3D] sonicice:
I just flashed the "fixed" rom (without the firmware) and I only get as far as a Virgin mobile flash screen at which point the phone reboots.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Oh, so by your "standard" you can just claim someone is wrong and not offer any proof whatsoever? Got it.

Install the app and see for yourself. Just remove it before the trial period expires and it won't cost you a dime. I don't know what else I can tell you, lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
I'm going to sit this leak out.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Yep, probably for the best. I flashed the "fixed" one and the same issue came up. Now I've gotta figure out how to get the PG86IMG.zip off of my SD card so I can get to recovery. :D

I guess I'll just stick my SD card into my mom's Epic 4G.
[HTC EVO 3D] exSD:
Same thing happened to me but I'm at work. Had to go find someone with a SD card reader LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
I'm currently looking for one of those normal sized SD card converters to put into my card reader. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] exSD:
I was on my way to ask someone to use their phone for a sec (weird) but thought that our support desk would have at least one somewhere. I feel so lost without a working phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Well, I hope you get everything squared away.

Restoring my Sense 4.0 backup at the moment, and I'll finally be able to use my phone again. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] minieod:
pull battery , boot to recovery with volume down + power , attach as usb mount, rename zip , reboot
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Wasn't possible. If there's a PG86IMG.zip on the root of your SD card and you boot into bootloader (down + power) it finds the zip file and asks if you want to update. If you say no you have to reboot the device, so you never get the chance to choose recovery.
[HTC EVO 3D] minieod:
down + power should bring you to recovery, not to bootloader

this has never once brought me into the bootloader

the only way i get to the bootloader is by telling the device to reboot to bootloader , either through OS or from recovery
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
power + down has always brought me straight to bootloader.
[HTC EVO 3D] powduh09:
You sure about this? Every cdma 3vo I've ever seen boots to fastboot when you power+volume down

sent from my downgraded hboot 1.50 3vo running ZR3D injected with anthrax... s-off HTC, thanks to the real developers, I now have control of my device again ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Never once has my phone booted to recovery from holding power and volume down. It always takes me straight to the bootloader, and was the same on my Evo 4G.
[HTC EVO 3D] salutcalin2002:
have you tried this ,with the battery out and in again ?

i think you have the fastboot enable in setings.
[HTC EVO 3D] neoofoox:
There's a update on the official HTC BLOG.

Here is the Link for the shedule.

EVO 3D: June-July
[HTC EVO 3D] dadda:
Use ADB and boot into recovery to remove the PG86IMG.zip file I had to remove that zip file like that several times cause I didn't have a SD card reader.
[HTC EVO 3D] twitchyfingers:
Shipping Delay

I hope the Delay of the EVO LTE and One X didn't affect the release of EVO 3d of Boost. I know they probably wouldn't want to release ICS on the E3D officially until these phones had hit the market. Otherwise, Why would you upgrade it your E3D already had ICS?!
[HTC EVO 3D] neoofoox:
some posts above you: Evo 3D ICS Update is sheduled to June-July
[HTC EVO 3D] Pawnty:
Drat, you beat me to it :P
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
June-July is just when HTC will be done with it, Sprint will have to still put their mark on it and then roll it out. I am betting that it will probably be August before we see it officially rolled out.
[HTC EVO 3D] neoofoox:
yes, but I have a non branded phone ;) but maybe I have the problem that europe comes after US

But June-July is so far away... I think about rooting flashing soon.

I am proud of me that I haven't done it yet :D
[HTC EVO 3D] t4d73:
Does anyone know on that device list what the EVO 4G+ is? Think its the og EVO?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
Think EVO 4G+ was released in South Korea only.
[HTC EVO 3D] jles1693:
That is true that they say June-July timeline, but also it has been outed officially by Sprint exec David Owens that the update for the Evo 3d and Design 4g will come out in June.

http://www.goodandevo.net/2012/05/s...o-3d-and-evo-design-4g-in-june-timeframe.html
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
Hope so, but I won't be holding breath for it in June.
[HTC EVO 3D] jles1693:
from reading about it, it is the korean version similar to the Evo 3d but the 2d/3d button is for pictures/videos next to the camera shutter, all of the rest of the specs are the same, proc, mem, even the layout of the rear pod

http://www.viddler.com/v/aec52fbd
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Oh well.......thanks to Newt for putting that Sense 4.0 ROM out there for me to try on my 3D because by the time sprint pushes this thing out, my 3D will be sold ot the highest bidder on ebay. Its been fun but my EVO 4G LTE is calling my name.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
I am thinking the same... when the EVO LTE gets full S-Off/Full root I will probably switch over to it.
[HTC EVO 3D] jles1693:
Good call, if we've learned anything from the past, just because they say "you will get the update in this timeframe" doesn't necessarily mean that we will actually see it. also the rom that you are talking about has sense 4 instead of 3.6 which is whats coming with the update, so still a win, and the 4g lte is def one of the best phones coming out right now
[HTC EVO 3D] bagelicious:
You guys have fun with the Evo LTE, Sense and all that other jazz. Hearing that there are potentially 5 new Nexus devices coming out this year has me super excited. I can't imagine buying anything with bloatware and crappy skins at a time like this. :) To each their own, though.
[HTC EVO 3D] jles1693:
Also a good point, and I was reading about the multiple OEM's for the next google nexus phone....

But is there a time line yet to when they will be announced/released

For any of you that care to read about it:

http://nickkwock.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/googles-next-nexus-5-devices-1-device-to-rule-them-all/
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Yea to each his own. LTE has 2 bloat apps that can easily be removed....

And well those devices will probably be nice to get for a christmas gift. Good luck with that.
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
Officially reported by HTC: Release for EVO 3D will be June-July

http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Everyone said this same exact thing about the Evo 3D before it was released. Then we all found out about CarrierIQ. Why study history if we don't learn from it?

I will also be very interested in those Nexus devices. Hopefully one of them has 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] neoofoox:
I have allready posted that :) about 2h ago
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
Oh really? Where?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
Post 286 of this thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
Hmmm... Just as I thought. Got the answer, didn't care.
[HTC EVO 3D] Wisenos:
damn that's slow lol
[HTC EVO 3D] donsh00tmesanta:
Wont it be the same as the virgin mobile ics update anyway?
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
All except firmware and maybe a cpl things better hard to say otherwise 99.9% yes
[HTC EVO 3D] ulk026:
Jelly Bean rumors already spreading that it would be announced in November. And we still have to wait for the ICS official update for EVo 3D :(
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Which this device will probably never see unless its a cm version I'm almost tempted to.keep this to see what happens if.google really makes 5 nexus phones and if there are 5 will there be versions for sprint however I also want the LTE but my gf got the nexus so ill be able to play w jb anyways once it rolls out...

I'm nit a fan of Sammy but the perks to pure google are awesome n the gn is actually a nice device
[HTC EVO 3D] Jakedude2011:
Nerd coolness at its best!!
[HTC EVO 3D] piscesjoey:
I really doubt that Sprint will see another Nexus device after Google said they were dropping support on CDMA devices. After a long thought I decided to keep my 3D since CM9 is officially on the way with Wimax working, plus I get great 4G here & LTE isn't expected until next year sometime, but I've been seriously thinking of just jumping ship to T-Mobile or hell even Straight Talk & buying an unlocked Nexus since Google will always support GSM.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
That is what I thought of doing as well but to my understanding they are just dropping dev support not cdma 100% for their device's.
[HTC EVO 3D] kayncz:
It's very long waiting

Than time will come, I change my evo :)
[HTC EVO 3D] tran1981:
Should be soon... I'm waiting patiently and in the mean time I use Meanrom ICS.
[HTC EVO 3D] ulk026:
ICS update for Evo 3D would be coming this summer June-July but when only time will tell fingers are crossed hope for soon... and also for better stable update... Not for battery hungry one... hope the HTC sense would be more efficient in terms of better hardware and software collaboration for better performance.
[HTC EVO 3D] tristanrutra:
Without any problems with 3D :D

Swype in 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
There are many ICS ROMs right now that have everything working just fine (Wimax, 3D, etc).
[HTC EVO 3D] freakysick:
got any other pp in china the ota update?
[HTC EVO 3D] cikanovo:
CDMA version of EVO 3D fares pretty well, if you have a GSM version as I do situation with ICS is not nerly as good
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
No code from China please. I want my ROMS to be lead free.
[HTC EVO 3D] BackDaws:
Whens the official update coming out for SIM free Evo 3d's ?
[HTC EVO 3D] Rage1ofakind:
Asked both T mobile and a senior HTC employee. They have no stern date unfortunately, June to July < That's as much as we know, we will probably know when someone gets that OTA update and it'll go viral
[HTC EVO 3D] cofan:
I don't think I'd get another 3d phone again. Never use it anyway and updates seem to come slower cause of 3d integration.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
People keep saying updates come slower because of 3D. I disagree. I think updates come slower because of HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] cofan:
May be true but even if you want to run non-sense roms you lose 3d functionality anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] EGOvoruhk:
It's Sprint and only Sprint. ICS is out for the 3D on Virgin, why would HTC be the cause anymore? They obviously have it ready, Sprint is holding out in hopes for more Evo 4G LTE sales
[HTC EVO 3D] majid25:
How it is even possible that it could hurt EVO 4g LTE sales when they don't even sell the 3D anymore
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
+1, sprint can't release it until they meet sales expectations on the LTE, they want to get rid of as many Wimax phones as possible.
[HTC EVO 3D] EGOvoruhk:
People won't feel as much of a need to upgrade if they have 4.0
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
That seems to be Sprint's thinking, however, 95% of all E3d owners have no idea what ICS is (nor do they care) and have no idead there may be an impending update. Actually, most people outside of the dev community are scepticle of any update if their phones are running good....always seems to be glitches afterward. Remember, non rooted phones which take an ota dont have the luxury to do a full wipe and almost always have problems afterward.
[HTC EVO 3D] krayziejoe:
Most people with the E3D aren't eligible to upgrade yet. I know im skipping the ELTE, matter of fact, im probably going to Verizon since Sprint service is awful.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mr Paul:
Still nothing OTA in the UK (GSM unbranded)
[HTC EVO 3D] Le_canard:
Well, I still consider HTC is the cause, as Sprint is only a provider in US, and ICS is unavailable on all EVO 3D (I'm in France, with an unbrandt EVO 3D, the only one I'm waiting after is HTC, no one else)...
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Exactly!....could be that VirginMobile paid extra to have HTC use more resources to get them the build and phone out...this is something that goes into each rollout too. You always have the ability to pay them more to use more resources and get the build faster...VM was also getting a new phone released so its a lil different probably...

In the end, till its on the unbranded GSM....don't think we can fault Sprint for the reason its not out yet...imho
[HTC EVO 3D] woody296:
Please excuse my lack of knowledge in how phones work in France, do you buy a phone unlocked, or with a carrier?
[HTC EVO 3D] pedroxxx:
carriers

Maybe I can answer too, because in Europe generally it is up to you. You can choose to buy phone from your carrier (usually for free or with discount) or in electronic shops for full price. Your carrier can brand the phone or lock it just for that network, but it also depends on carrier itself.

I bought mine directly from HTC distributor for our country, because of really nice price drop :) therefore mine is unbranded and unlock. I think Le_canard did something similar.

So I am sure, when HTC itself will release ICS for Europe, it will be all over the main page :)
[HTC EVO 3D] 3dd1:
I agree about HTC being at fault here , I remember how may months after the first given date I had to wait for Gingerbread on my Desire Z. :-(
[HTC EVO 3D] NYG140:
It blows my mind that ICS source was release October of last year and the EVO 3D still doesn't have it.
[HTC EVO 3D] franciumgoesboom:
That's what we get for having a phone with pretty non standard hardware.

Next phone will probably be a nexus or something a bit more "standard"
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
It's not that the hardware is non standard. A driver is a driver. If HTC has to make 2D camera divers, its the same as making 3D camera drivers.

HTC had no problem making a Virgin Mobile ICS ROM for the Evo 3D. They just haven't done the same for the other Evo 3Ds yet.

It's not a 3D problem, it's an HTC problem.
[HTC EVO 3D] evomike77:
HTC has already done the update, it's just not being released yet....this has nothing to do with anything but money ...they want as many people to upgrade as possible before its released.
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopdog:
This is sprint why would they release any updates that make customers happy? All the care about is getting new customers through "unlimited data and cheap plans scheme." I'm done with this company soon as my contract is up I suggest everyone else do the same maybe they will learn a lesson.