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[General Monetization] Rob45:
Hello,

I've been reading a few threads and posts about earning revenue from apps without the use of advertising. I've used Admob network before, but over the past month and a half I've used Sellaring ad network. These guys do audio ads and they add a few good dollars to my pocket each month. In fact, a few more months of incoming ad revenue (and more users to my apps) and I may be able to cut down my day job.

I want to ask here, why is there a great objection to advertising on apps? I see a lot of the opposition here among XDA forum members and much less of it on any other forum. Ad revenue is a potential that can give developers the resource to develop more... this is what many of us want isn't it?

Hope I'm not offending anyone, would appreciate your input.
[General Monetization] sashank:
I don't think anyone here objects to in-app adds. There are many apps with both ad-supported and paid ad-free versions, so people will either buy them or use the ad-supported free version. Those kind of ads don't really bother people. I think the biggest problem people have with ads is with ad-delivery systems like AirPush. Those are intrusive and ruin the experience of using the phone. Coming from the internet, it doesn't feel right to get ads pushed to your notification bar automatically. It's like pop-up windows on many sites on the internet (eg. www.piratebay.se). Nobody likes them.

Since phones are our personal devices and we store so much of personal data on them, it doesn't feel right when we randomly receive ads like that without any control over it (except a convoluted opt-out process). It's an intrusion of privacy. That's the only issue in my opinion.
[General Monetization] lufc:
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &

Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting

Moving to Q&A
[General Monetization] Rob45:
But do you find banner ads less annoying when you're playing a game? Where do you draw the line between intrusive and non intrusive?

Ad networks like airpush and sellaring make it possible for app developers to make money from their entire installed base... even users who don't use the app every day. For me, that helps to generate a lot more cash.
[General Monetization] spunker88:
I don't mind the little in app banner ads. The push notification ads are really annoying, and feels like malicious adware. I will instantly uninstall any app that pushed notification ads.
[General Monetization] mistermentality:
Exactly. I uninstall anything that pushes notification bar ads as for me they feel intrusive whereas in app ads I have no problems with.

Dave
[General Monetization] Rob45:
What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/

Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
[General Monetization] okmijnlp:
I think that's a stupid idea, but meh, if it makes money it can't be that bad. It better be optional though!
[General Monetization] nemosomen:
It's likely your app's users do not know where the ads are coming from. I know if I downloaded an app that caused constant advertising to appear on my phone, I would remove it immediately and never deal with that developer again. You have to also look at it from a value proposition. If you are not providing a user with value (i.e. they are not currently using your app), why should they be providing you with value via ad revenue? And imagine if every developer had separate, out-of-app ads. Your phone would be unusable.
[General Monetization] spunker88:
As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
[General Monetization] okmijnlp:
LMFAO the Yphone! Couldn't stop laughing!
[General Monetization] Rob45:
That's hysterical!! :D But only cause it takes it to extreme...

Ring back ads are meant to be played during the Ring Back Tone.

I agree that you have to provide value to users. But considering most Android users don't pay for apps (statistically) and in-app ads do not convert very well, we're pretty much stuck in between. How can we generate revenue for our work?

What if the ads are fun jingles? Doesn't that provide something of value?
[General Monetization] exiquio:
Labor isn't free and ads are just one way to monetize. The only question that matters is one related to the Golden Rule.

Would you use an app with ads? Does it bother you? If not, you are doing nothing wrong under the eyes of Bob. If users were to complain and bicker, then perhaps you have another question on your hands: to cater to the users or not.
[General Monetization] tattedupboy:
Thankfully, my phone is rooted and running cyanogenmod, so I can block in-app ads as well as revoke permissions for others that use Air push. I realize that ads are how developers make money and keep the apps free, but that doesn't make me hate ads any less. Any app for which there is no way to block all ads is an app that I will not keep, period.
[General Monetization] spunker88:
I'll put up with ads if they are non obtrusive and don't get in the way of using the program. Ads should only be present when the program is open and being used, meaning airpush ads should never be used. They are no different than malicious Windows adware programs that push pop-up ads.
[General Monetization] App-Developer-Magazine:
It's not the ads, is the the network

Lets be honest, we all think ad networks are intrusive, messy to deal with (updating SDK's), and overall feel like we "cheapen" our apps when use them. But - they are the most popular "layer" you can slide into a free app in hopes of earning a little revenue from it. Using a completely different model such as fermium, or carrier-billing (Android only at the moment), or in-app purchases go beyond the scope of this post, but are better ways of earning revenue from an app in general.
[General Monetization] ashishpdme:
Let's be honest:

No one like intrusion and advertisements like notifications, audio ads, video ads are intrusive.

Banner ads are fine as all they consume is a part of screen but some app started sending me notifications and I couldn't figure out the source, it's really annoying especially when notification can't be cleared down.

And in android 2.3, there no such feature to swipe the notification. You had to clear all notifications at a time.
[General Monetization] MurhteyVee:
I don't think developers object to app ads. There are many developers who have many apps on DesktopAd using banner ads and pop-ups to monetize apps. And I can see banner ads in many Windows apps, but I don't feel them bother me a lot. My apps are on Windows 8.1 desktop platform, I use small banners in my games, I think they would not bother my players. As a result I got generous profits from in-app ads. By the way, my ads SDK is from DesktopAd.com.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkg720:
Okay so last week I traded my white tmo gs2 even for my note. Now I have to make a decision. I have to either keep my amazing exynos note with edge, trade it for an att note, or sell it to a friend for a white tmo gs2 plus $170. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nico53laval:
Keep the damn Note! The Exynos is better (maybe way better) than the Snapdragon from the AT&T Note (and 4G isn't really that useful considering the download speed you already have (up to 21 Mbit/s) and the browsing speed with chrome beta) and the screen and size of the galaxy note just put it ahead of the s2 for many many things.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhisahara:
Chrome Beta works only in ICS though ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ngambek2003:
If I were you I would switch to AT&T instead. Get the AT&T note for $250 from Amazon with a 2 year contract. Get it unlocked and sell the new AT&T note. Keep the international note. The international note works with AT&T HSPA+. I've been getting about 6-9 Mbps on AT&T HSPA+.

People were able to get the AT&T note working on TMO's 3G but seems like the signal strength is low.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Thomaslje:
Hi I want to install ClockworkMod Recovery. booted my phone into FastBoot Mode and then the computer installed the driver and the phone got to "download do not turn off and it just stays at download :confused:"so whats the problem my phone is rooted with GALAXY NEXUS TOOLKIT V5.4

so how do I install ClockworkMod Recovery so i can install another rom
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
just download rom manager and have it flash it if you're already rooted... or use fastboot to push the recovery over
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Thomaslje:
thx

thx it worked but anyway whay did the phone do it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Emhalwis:
Now since you flashed cwm go back to gnex toolkit and flash the touch based recovery. Puts less strain on the buttons especially power. Hopefully it won't get stuck on downloading.
[HTC Sensation] lun073:
Hi guys.

I'm a newbie in andriod and this is my first time to root the phone.

I was installing Recovery and reboot after that, then the phone keep on rebooting at HTC quietly brilliant screen.

I tried to factory reset, it tried to read some files from the memory card but the progress bar was not moving and then reboot at HTC quietly brilliant screen.

I also tried to do recovery, but i saw a red exclamation mark...

I don't know what to do anymore, please help...
[HTC Sensation] jasminthoria:
Provide some more information about ur phone. Hboot version are u s-off?
[HTC Sensation] lun073:
Hi Jasminthoria.

My Hboot version was 1.18.
[HTC Sensation] lun073:
Hi jasminthoria.

I write down the details for you, not sure if there is anything wrong with it.

PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT- 1.27.1100 (this was changed from 1.18)

RADIO-11.22.3504.07_M

OpenADSP-v0.2.6.0.2226.00.0131

eMMc-Boot

And I found out that when I selected FastBoot and BootLoader, I saw

SD Checking

Loading......[PG85......zip]

SD Checking

Loading .....[PG86......nhh]
[HTC Sensation] lun073:
after this, i wanted to reboot...

but it keep on rebooting on the HTC logo screen...
[HTC Sensation] kualmente:
Seems you installed an ICS firmware but probably you have a GB rom this is why it bootloops.

What rom you were trying to flash?

Did you install a custom recovery first? (like CWM or 4ext?)

First: delete PG58IMG.zip from sd card

second: reboot in bootloader and go to recovery (hope you have installed a custom recovery).

Then, from recovery flash the rom (assuming is an ICS rom and you put in the root of your sd card already).

Hope it helps.
[HTC Sensation] gol_n_dal:
+1. Also download SuperWipe from the ARHD thread and run it before installing your new shiny ICS ROM.
[HTC Sensation] lun073:
Hi kualmente.

I was trying to flash Revolution HD. I was doing step 2 to install the recovery, and i forgot where i downloaded the file with the name PG58IMG.zip, which is the ICS rom.

I didn't installed any recovery, because it was the recovery that i tried to installed then this issue came out. I tried to select recovery from the bootloader with or without the sd card, all i got is a red exclamation mark......

I think i'm in deep shi t......... please help me
[HTC Sensation] kualmente:
You need to flash custom recovery first. All flashable zips from bootloader are called PG58IMG. So chose the right one and do not forget where you downloaded.

The exclamation mark means you are on stock recovery. No worries.

Re-download the custom recovery and put on root of sd card (means not into a folder).

Download CWM recovery from HERE

Then:

1) Reboot while pressing vol down + power button. It will install recovery.

2) Delete PG58IMG from sd card.

3) Reboot again (like point 1)

4) go to recovery, scroll down untill you find superwipe(wathevername.zip)

5) go back

6) again install from sd card - chose zip from sd card. This time chose the rom (wathevername.zip).

Remember to use Vol -/+ to scroll and power button to select.

Last but not least, be patient and wait untill the entire process is completed and prompted to reboot system.

Hit thanks button if it helped!
[HTC Sensation] jasminthoria:
Best thing is start again. First run ur Original RUU. Then if u r flashing ice u need to install upgrded firmware.
[HTC Sensation] gol_n_dal:
No need to go back to an RUU, potentially a big risk.

As an earlier post said get ClockworkMod (CWM) and install it. Then Superwipe then install your ICS ROM of choice

As stated all the bootloader flashable images are called "PG58IMG.zip". So the recovery and F/W will both be called that when you install them through bootloader. Hence it's a VERY good idea to clean up afterwards. When ever I download a PG58IMG.zip I rename it, e.g. to cwm-5.0.2.0-PG58IMG.zip, of course they have to be renamed to the correct name to flash them. This means I can easily keep track of the dammed files in case I need to use them again.
[HTC Sensation] mistercrews:
htc sensation 4g stuck in bootloop

im rooted,s-offed.i flashed android revolution 6.6.3 hd rom.it finished and then the bootloop started.i have tried multiple roms and keep getting the same result.hboot version 1.27(was 1.17) any help would greatly be appreciated.been stuck for two days. help!!!!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mythofsisyphus:
https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-optimization-adreno/8081?page=3#comment-6691

Excuse spelling mistakes, I'm posting this from my phone. This is good news, right?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Not for our phone, but good for people who are rocking the EVO 4G and the OG Incredible. That article was for phones with the Adreno 200 GPU. The Droid Incredible 2 has Adreno 205 GPU, so it will be incompatible.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mythofsisyphus:
If you follow the link posted it says the driver supports any Android 2xx device for ICS. I would assume 2xx means the entire 200 series of gpus.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] aeroevan:
Yep, I just tested and they work on my build. I haven't done any benchmarks to see how much better they are though.

If you want to use them, you can just adb push them to their proper directory. I will be using those drivers for my next build (already pushed them to my proprietary_vendor_htc on github).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jbarcus81:
I just messed my pants!! I wonder how much longer it will be until we see a leak?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Amphibliam:
Will this fix camera all the way?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jbarcus81:
I don't think so.. Camera drivers (proper) come from HTC I believe..

---------- Post added at 05:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:36 PM ----------

How can I get this in your zip before I even flash the rom aero?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] aeroevan:
Just unzip the rom and drivers and simply replace the files in the rom with the ones in the driver. Rezip and should be good to go. But I think people have turned the drivers in a flashable patch, so either way should work.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
I am looking for info on these drivers. Do we flash these to our phones like a rom? Or a radio? When do they (or are they already available to install)?

Been looking and I do not see anything definitive. Thanks! :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] theandre:
Hello everyone,

After getting my Atrix 2 water damaged, I ordered HTC Vivid... Since it has bootloader unlocked I suppose there should be some ROMs without Sense skin.

Do you guys know if there is any fully functioning nonsense ROM ? Preferably ICS...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] GuestK00403:
Yes. Pirate ghost's Rum Float Beta Rom has a no sense option:

http://blog.androidninjas.com/
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] theandre:
Unfortunately the one you mentioned is not functional. So at this moment HTC Vivid can not have stock ICS experience....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] strose09:
PG is currently working on Rumfloat Beta4 btw if you are patient enough.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] travisxcore:
Non functional? Then please explain to me why my phone is running perfectly...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Mad Medik:
Andre, I think you are confusing "stock" with AOSP. ALL HTC "stock" ROMs will have Sense user interface.

Sent from the Matrix
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] tennockey:
I believe PGs nonsense Rom is nothing close to what you are looking. Basically just stock sense with the trebuchet ics launcher from cm9. You'll have to wait for anything more AOSP than that
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slimslim:
Off topic: I was really looking for a nonsense rom but I changed my mind after the ics upgrade, the new sense is soo smooth now, I'm impressed. (Part of it may be the memory management and probably the multicore support in ics).
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] travisxcore:
Just to clear up the confusion here -

Nonsense/sense stripped/ect: a Rom that has had sense "removed" from it. There will still be traces of sense left behind but that's the price to pay instead of building one from scratch while still having a functioning ROM.

AOSP: a built from scratch ROM. So vanillay its more vanilla then Vanilla.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] shayla28:
Okay, I've been looking for something like this as well - to clarify, does PirateGhost's RumFloat Beta4 work on OTA updated ICS Vivid's; and if so, is it a 'AOSP' or a 'NonSense' offering?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] cruzin_cruzing:
It's a Nonsense offering, although I don't think Pg's build will work with Telstra Vivids.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] megatronisabeast:
He is on rootzwiki if you want to read more about it.

This is from his post:

rebuilt from RUU 3.26.502.56

removed non-sense option, too buggy

He does not have a nonsense offering except for beta 3. It runs on ics too.
[HTC Rezound] chickltt7:
Hey all I'm trying to flash rom REZOUND - Stock Root Deodexed 3.11.605.1.zip with PH98IMG from http://www.theandroidsoul.com/htc-rezound-ics-leak-3-11-605-1/. I was able to change the mainver in the ph98 file and that updates just fine but when I try to flash the rom itself it flashes okay but then it reboots to the white screen that says htc and doesn't go past that. Not sure what I missing, any help would be great! Thanks in advance.
[HTC Rezound] krelvinaz:
I would stick to roms that have support threads for them so that when you have questions, you can ask the relevant people using that rom rather than asking a general question from people who most likely are not using what you are trying.

There are lots of ROMS for the Rezound located in http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1392 that have support threads.
[HTC Rezound] madhacker7:
Agreed. It sounds like you don't have the right boot image flashed for your ROM. try flashing it via fastboot and you should get a clean boot.
[Droid X General] Prack:
Hi Guys,

I love my DX as much as the next guy but I've got a Droid 2 Global at work that nobody is using and I can "trade" my DX for it if I want. I wouldn't be able to keep the DX most because at some point someone may need a phone as a loaner.

But I'm curious. If you had the chance would you trade your droid x for a brand new Droid 2 Global?
[Droid X General] twisted_58:
Not a chance. I love my DX, mostly it's thin profile and big (or what used to be big) screen. Now if your DX has issues or is broken then that's a different story. Otherwise the phones are equal in performance and the rom scene. So it's up to you, I would just keep my DX though.
[Droid X General] watt9493:
Hardware buttons and bigger screen are a plus

Sent from my DROIDX running Liberty 3
[Droid X General] terrigan:
I recently just did the opposite, traded my D2G for the Droid X. Now only if I could keep the battery door on....
[Droid X General] watt9493:
I pull mine out of my pocket and it falls off. :eek:

Sent from my potted plant running Liberty 3
[Droid X General] Prack:
I liked the physical keyboard on my Droid 1 for gaming. Order and chaos online for example sucks to type messages in game while in fights etc because the keyboard covers up what your doing. That's the main reason I'm considering swapping. Also the roms/devs are the same for both devices for the most part so I wouldn't have to change much.

I may be able to keep the droid x as a wifi only device if I switch. I told my boss on friday that I was considering switching because I was having "problems" with the phone and that it might be defective ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Happy Feet-:
Hi,

I using Lords ICE Cream Sandwich Build. I was unable to send or Recieve mms. Has anyone find a solution for Vodafone Germany user? (without Wi-Fi)

Greets Lars

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire HD mit Tapatalk
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adwhite:
I'm really struggling to get all my videos to stream and am looking for solutions. So far I've had the best luck with My Net and ES with Mobo but I still get several files that wont play audio at all or just loud static. Any ideas without having to convert all my files? Is there a clear list of audio and videos codecs that the TFP will play. I dug around for a bit but didnt find a definitive list.

Thanks!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chamberc:
Nothing beats PlayOn.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n8mack33:
I have had great success with ES and MX Player but I haven't tried a lot of file types.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Danny-B-:
BSPlayer and Dice player WILL play anything you throw at them .. and they both have a Lan function to locate files on network shares without needing a seperate app.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MadmanJay:
I use Dice player and find it works like a charm. You can access a share directly from the app as mention by dannyb.

If you have dlna then try an app called UPNPLAY in combination with Dice player.... this is what I use to stream from my netgear nas.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
With mx player you need to change to software encoding sometimes to get sound. Maybe the same with whatever you are using.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jonbxx:
+1 on the BSPlayer. My NAS was really flaky on the DLNA and I wanted to play MKV files. BSPlayer worked a charm on SMB shares without add on software
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] biernut:
PLEX! Run the server on your PC, load the app on any android device and stream. The nice thing about PLEX is that it uses your PC to decode, then streams to the device. This eliminates codec issues, and allows you to stream any file type to any device that supports the PLEX app. It also allows remote mobile connections, and is the best I've found, even on 3G. It also will work as a DLNA server, if you choose to bypass the PLEX app, although then decoding is done locally on the device.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adwhite:
Thanks for all the suggestions. I've tried each but none work flawlessly. Either stuttering, low frame rates, bad compression, taskbar doesnt hide etc. I've used speed test and wifi analyzer and dont seem to have any issues there. I went and picked up a new ipad just to check it out (dont plan to keep it, really dont understand using a tablet and having to hold it all the time) and the boxee app is phenomenal. I saw they were hiring a lead android app developer so hopefully we'll see something soon but I'm not holding my breath. I'll keep digging and see what I can find.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hakarune:
Easy..... I stream videos from my PC to tablet daily. Get TVersity on your Desktop (it's free) and then download Skifta & MX Video on the prime, bothe are free too.

Depending on your router you may need to change port or QoS settings. but it works flawless, my gf even watches vids on her iPad2 while I'm on my prime.

Streaming may lag or fail if your router is crap or desktop is too slow....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Hawke84:
+1 that seems to be the best option for me too