[Off-topic] karandpr:
I am with you on the ideals stuff ...I like Ichigo because his ideals are clear ....and one of the finest chapters in bleach is where Urahara asks Ichigo to quit if he can't take it (when his bankai was broken) ...Thats why I am a bit partial to Bleach ....Urahara helped Ichigo to mature ...

Also the chapter where Soi fon says ..."We want to save the world too but dying to save the world is stupid ...."

AFAIK Naruto's ideal was to "never give up" ...Shikamaru's ideal was "I am lazy ,I quit " ...Simplistic ideal but In actual combat Naruto is a stubborn fellow you dont want to fight(and lucky) and shikamaru is a tactical genius ....

The thing is I like to compare the mangas ....And Naruto as a lead protagonist is too goody two shoes for my liking ....

Lets take some common aspects from OP,Bleach and Naruto ...like friendship or camaraderie ..

Ichigo has friends ...Renji,Ishida , Orihime ,Chad saved Ichigo's butt and the sandalhat dude is always there to look out for him ...He cares about his friends and they about him ...The SS captains gave them their power in the Fullbring arc ....

One piece is in a different league ..the strawhats are tight group going to extent of giving up lives/training hard just to cover their friends's asses ...

Naruto is obsessed with Sasuke(being hokage and ramen in free time) ...Sakura is obsessed with Sasuke ...Sasuke is obsessed with killing people ...Orachimaru is obsessed with weird science ...Shikamaru is obsessed with that king thing you mentioned ...Tsunade is obsessed with gambling ....

Might guy is obsessed with kakashi ...kakshi is obsessed with Obito ...Obito is obsessed with a giant tentacle monster ....Too many one sided obsessions ... Kabuto's obsession with orachimaru ...

if I were to strain my feeble memory "A and Killer Bee" ,"Madara and Hashirama" and "Kakashi and Might guy" to some extent are the only pairs of friend who will die for each other ...And sai as a member of Team 7 ...He will save Naruto and sakura's ass just because they are team members . ....The only good chapters in 2013 were about Hashirama and Madara for the simple reason that they were comrades ...

Also ,like i said previously,I hated Naruto's sudden vaporization of character development ...Part of the reason is that Naruto was the most developed character ...Second would be shikamaru...Third would be oonki..All others were either fully developed (Itachi & Jiraya ) or just new (Darui,Bee,A,,Shikaku,)...

In contrast Bleach has several developed characters(Orihime ,Toshiro ,Komomura,Kenpachi,Zangetsu !!!,byakuya shunsui,) and new ones showing up(jugo ...nuff said :p ) ...

OP already has vast assortment of characters ,too many to list ....One of the reasons I enjoy OP ...

ohh BTW I liked Naruto when he fought pain but hated when he didn't punch pain on his face .and thought kakashi's revival was the lamest thing to happen ....It would have been badass if kakashi had died....

Also Yamato is dead or zombie or awol ...I liked him since he wasn't obsessed with anything ,had common sense(barring Itachi ,none seem to posses it ) and was jovial ...

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It'a actually nice to see another point of view t !! :fingers-crossed: