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[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
The GN has 200 PPI manipulated to appear to be 315 PPI. The SGS3's manipulated pixel count is actually less at 306 PPI. The number of pixels (real or manipulated) are what create detail. In addition, PenTile isn't a "thing" it's an algorithm that tells 200 PPI to be 315 PPI. It's identical everywhere it's applied. So while the SGS3 display may be brighter and the physical panel may do better than the GN's with displaying color, it can't be any more detailed than the GN's.

And the difference between real and manipulated comes in to play depending on what's displayed. You don't have to look under a microscope to see some of the shortcomings PenTile has under certain conditions.

"The display industry (VESA) standard method of measuring and defining resolution in color displays is to measure the contrast of line pairs, requiring a minimum of 50% Michelson Contrast for displays intended for rendering text.

The developers of PenTile displays use this VESA criterion for contrast of line pairs to calculate the resolutions claimed. However, for the same resolution and size

the PenTile screen can appear grainy, pixelated, speckled, with blurred text on some saturated colors and backgrounds when compared to RGB stripe color

. This effect is understood to be caused by the

restriction of the number of subpixels that may participate in the image reconstruction when the color is fully saturated

. In the RGBW case, this is caused as the

W subpixel will not be available in order to maintain the saturated color

. In the RGBW case, this will occur

when the color is saturated red, as the fully populated (one green per pixel) will not be available.

For all other cases, text and especially full color images are fully reconstructed."
[HTC One X] Funkym0nkey:
Dude, I know all about Pentile matrix and what it does and how pixels are arranged. I have been reviewing and testing phone since the days of WM6 :D

I am not debating which display is technically better, its about real life performance.

And that is exactly what I am saying. That grainy nature is gone on SGS3 display and thats the first thing you notice.
[HTC One X] RogerPodacter:
That's totally not true. The amoled plus HD just can't be manufactured at a high enough yield at this time in the large quantities needed. The production process will get there soon though. Don't fall for PR spin.

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Its all about pixel density. The tab screen is not as dense so its easier to make full rgb matrix. On a smaller phone size the pixel density is much higher and harder to produce. Production process improves over time. That's why Samsung uses pentile. Once they get good enough at production they stop relying on pentile and bump it up to full rgb. All this PR talk about longevity is crap. We know better, we already went thru this with the jump from sgs to sgs2 amoled to amoled+.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Dude, you're debating the subjective which is fine as that comes down to opinion and yours is as valid as anyone else's. And just because you're happy doesn't mean everyone else will be too. PenTile's been debated on every phone ever using it up to and including the SGS3 (that alone says something) and there's nothing mystical about its application in the SGS3.

Fact:

1) Detail's driven by PPI and the SGS3 can't have more detail than the GN because it has fewer pixels.

2) PenTile struggles on saturated colors because under those conditions there aren't enough fake pixels to go around to accurately reproduce the subject matter.

I'm getting a SGS3 and deciding which of the two phones I like best. The One X display is (to me) excellent whereas no matter what Samsung's done there's nothing that can overcome the physical limitations of 200 PPI pretending to be more. Whether you see that or not means far less to me then whether I do.
[HTC One X] mrmtsuruya26:
As long as is it good in your eyes go for the best screens or the simple ones.
[HTC One X] louis.b:
You're right. For me SAMOLED sucks.
[HTC One X] Funkym0nkey:
Even One X display is not even close to being accurate. It is actually too yellow. You will notice it more on youtube videos as everything gets little screwed up.

Go watch SourceFed channel. They shoot entirely on white screen. Watch it on a good monitor or TV and then watch it on One X. All colours are off and little too much towards red. And yes, I have perfect unit which I got replaced from HTC. I am actually waiting for a developer to make a fix for us. I know few are working on it.

You wont even have to do that. Just see the youtube app. Its background is suppose to be white, but its yellowish on our phones. All of them. I checked 6 One X, different batches, made in 2 different factories. All of them have this problem. But its a minor flaw in otherwise a brilliant phone.

Pentile has its flaws which are well know, but these screens have reached point where you wont notice the difference in day to day operations under 95% of the cases. Do take a look at SGS3 when you get it and you will know what I am saying. It is a progressive step up from Galaxy Nexus even though its using same underlying technology. The only time you will notice the pentile display limitations is when you load a pdf ebook in your SGS3 and look it up close on the text borders. there it does become obvious. But holding phone at 1 feet away from your face which is my natural holding position you wont be disappointed.
[HTC One X] themono:
There's a wonderful app called Screen Adjuster which lets you rebalance the RGB colouring of your screen - install on the One X, turn up blue a fraction, and the screen is excellent.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Samsung exaggerates their colors even on their LCD displays. My G-Tab 10.1's colors are way overblown which is especially noticeable on video. I think a lot of people equate "more" color with "good" color. I've had my LCD TV's professionally calibrated and friends ask "why are the colors so dim?" I've seen some of theirs and they are intentionally running in store display mode and are thrilled with how bright and vivid everything is. Different strokes for different folks. From what I've read there's a "natural" mode in the SGS3 which is supposed to deliver more accurate colors which is a great option.

As for your yellow display, HTC's use of two different panel manufacturers doesn't do them any favors. The Sharp display is noticeably more warm (yellow). I had a grey AUO (the one I kept) and a white Sharp side-by-side and wasn't particularly fond of the latter. You'll notice that all the reviewers units have the cooler AUO panel.

At the end of the day the only opinion that matters is yours; it's your phone and you have to look at it every day.

Here's mine, you can see it's not warm.

Here's a side-by-side comparison the two panels as they were used on the Sensation.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Thanks for the tip.

I've tried your suggestion but I cannot reduce the excessive red color.
[HTC One X] okuda1971:
After reading through this thread, I now understand the difference between the 2 types of screen, but also having read the performance threads could this be the answer as to why the sgs2 gives a better results because it has a lot less pixels to move about.???
[HTC One X] nixola:
I presonaly love the amoled screen on my old desire, but new one x just beat it.

But in my point of view its because of the insane resolution, the color reproduction is great on both devices, and u see the diference only when u look both of them. So dont use 2 phones at same time:D
[HTC One X] TEKONG84:
Which one was better in life time? And how many years will it last? Does super amoled last than 2 years?
[HTC One X] Funkym0nkey:
My Galaxy S is still kicking without problem. Will be 2 years old in June.

That life excuse that samsung gave is obviously just an excuse. (Degradation issue is not actually made up stuff, but that issue was largely taken care of in newer generation AMOLED screens. )

The real factor is battery life and most importantly commercial viability of making 720P AMOLED Plus panel of this size with good production rate. It is bound to happen soon. Maybe with Note 2 or next Galaxy phone. Just not ready / profitable for main market yet.
[HTC One X] aslan93:
Isn't galaxy s screen a pentile screen? If so then that's exactly what Samsung said - pen tile lasts longer that would be why your phone is fine.

But yes I agree that their 'official' reason is BS. But this post is just to say that I don't quite get your point :)
[HTC One X] olaf63:
I tested s3 and hox screens at the shop, so in hurry, but i must say that on a white page color balance was very similar and neutral, very good on both. The other test i did demonstrated that the s3 screen was a lot dimmer at max level and thais convinced me not o buy it and i came back home with my x.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
for those who didn't see this, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26408110&postcount=3799
[HTC One X] Fightspit:
Ok, my panel ID is 0x4940014 so I assume it is the less warm panel, right ?
[HTC One X] PhilipL:
Hi

I thought the problem was the blue pixel on OLED displays has a much shorter lifespan, then it is red, with green being quite long lived?

In order to stop the screen turning green over time as the blue pixels wear out quicker they make the blue pixels bigger, and this works better with a pentile arrangement. This means the blue pixels can produce the necessary light output while being under-driven which helps increase their life span. Algorithms are also added so as the screen ages the pixels get driven harder and harder to compensate for their lower light level, so those pixels being bigger helps here as well.

The reason AMOLED has arrived mainly on phones first is because typically the display isn't on for long periods so their short life-span isn't much of a concern, and the displays for phones are small which is better for any new technology, in the same way LCD displays started out small.

From the OLED wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED

Regards

Phil
[HTC One X] aslan93:
Just saw a galaxy s3 and had a play with it I must say even though its pen tile it looks preeetttyyy goood.. those who think they know what it looks like because they have seen the nexus should think again and wait until they actually see it. It is very good
[HTC One X] pewpewbangbang:
It's the same panel, just 50% brighter but still not as bright as the Galaxy Note panel.

And because it's been stretched to 4.8 inches, it has less DPI and PPI. Pentile isn't hugely noticeable, but you can tell it's still there. Texts especially aren't as crisp and the picture comparison of the Google Chrome icon was probably the best to show the two differences.

They also reduced the saturation of colors apparently to make them more accurate and natural.
[HTC One X] goonx:
SAMOLED plus is the best display available. SLCD has their own perks but the battery draw is lower with the SAMOLED (black doesn't need power). IMO battery life also determines how "good" the screen is. There's no point in having a phone with an ULTRA DUPER display that lasts only 5 hours.

SAMOLED plus and SLCD2 are in a very tight race in picture quality but in the end, battery life puts SAMOLED over the edge.

The only reason why HTC doesn't put AMOLED in their phones is because samsung doesn't sell it to them.
[HTC One X] louis.b:
The one S has AMOLED display. Duh ! And who cares about displays w blue tint + artificial contrast + fake colours.

And if saying this can make all the SS' fanboys go away then ok here it is: SS is the best. Hail !!!!!

Happy?
[HTC One X] goonx:
You know there's something called calibration right?

If you think all LCDs come looking "accurate" to real colours, you're in for a surprise. In fact, all "professional" IPS-LCDs are calibrated with a colourimeter even after getting "factory" calibrated. Even SUPER high-end displays in television sets, projectors usually comes with a "tint" and need to be calibrated.

SS fanboy? geez, speak for yourself. If you can't handle other people's perspectives in the HTC One X forum then GTFO.

FYI, i think the HTC one X is a beauty and that's why i'm browsing these forums. In terms of screens though, I personally would like to see SAMOLED in these phones.
[HTC One X] pewpewbangbang:
Only if SAMOLED becomes RGB, otherwise it would be pointless.

SLCD2 has a lot more vibrant colors compared to other LCD's and older panels. Contrast has been greatly increased, and it's knocking at the footsteps of SAMOLED.

Plus it's a whole lot better for web browsing which I do a lot more than watch a movie or something so it will get a lot better battery life in that department.
[HTC One X] jonstatt:
This is no longer the case and hasn't been for a while. All the sub pixels are now white, and use a colour filter overlay to provide red green and blue. This way all pixels age identically and no colour shift occurs.
[Desire HD General] dreamland2000:
Has anyone got the 50GB box offer? If so is there a way to share the files from the app as I can't find any thing on their site!

I know files/folders can be shared by the PC app.

Thanks
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
Long press the item, hit share. Choose any email and copy the link
[Desire HD General] dreamland2000:
Thanks, thought might have been it.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[General Questions and Answers] poqi_ako:
hi there, just wanna ask,

if there is someting that may help me crack the wifi password

of my neighbor, just wanna know their wifi password so that i can connect on their wifi too,

i know something like the application anti but it is paid application, is there any way to crack a wifi password free.?​
[General Questions and Answers] sushigeezer:
are you aware that doing so without AP owners knowledge or permission is a criminal offence?

any of the mods will probably close this thread
[General Questions and Answers] moujibzinc:
Just knock at their door and ask if you can use their wifi . Wait for the answer :)
[General Questions and Answers] stylez:
FORUM RULES​
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magiktrane:
Hi,

my phone carrier needs an option to activate data, only available, as far as i know, on AOSP ICS (as CM9). It's called 'national data roaming'.

Do you guys know which rom based on samsung one's (like XXLPQ) have this option in parameters ?

Besides it's the only way, i think, to have full functionalities (video, camera, etc.).

Thanks.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themohd:
Hey guyz wazzzup :D

I wanna know how to increase my wifi voltage to get better reception, cuz I've been using hTC, iphone phones and they get full signal where samsung s and s2 get low signal.

I guess its related to the kernel.

How to adjust it please?

Thank you
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Turn the power up on your router .

Router is WiFi power .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themohd:
dude at the same place where I get full signal on the hTC and Iphone I get 1 bar in S2

I've read somewhere that its possible to increase wifi voltage.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Try that then jude .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themohd:
thank you :cool:
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
SiyahKernel

Or something similar as Wifi is kernel based .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themohd:
Thanks, siyah kernel has better reception

Hope it gets better in stable ics kernel.

Gooood luck
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] noobGen21:
Hello everybody,

I search a boot animation from Mass Effect.

I found this but

i want an animation with the Normandy like that :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipqJ-rZEoUY

If anybody can't help me, maybe you can tell me how i can make that animation with a tuto. :confused:

Thx.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] bassie1995:
Little advice: Try to download the video, break it down into separate PNGs. From there, search for Boot Animation Creator (something like that) to make it.

I'd help out some more, but school is killing me right now :(.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] ReiverBlade:
wrong thread sorry
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmfita:
Hello.

I have one year the nexus S, and during that time I spent three or four times the following.

I turn off the phone and when you turn it lose screen brightness by 50%. And I have to leave at 100% brightness and do not know how to recover the brightness.

It has happened in different roms.

How could restore the default value without being forced to change rom every time I pass?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rimmir:
Which ROMs are they? Which kernel?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmfita:
It has happened with these roms.

FASTEST ICS 4.04 03/03/12 Pixel Rom 1.60

Codename android (varias versiones)

CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v.9 HYBRID+Matr1x 17.5

I have proven different kernels, which come in the roms and Matrix.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahanddeem:
what about stock roms ? are you on auto brightness ? auto brightness always behaves strangely ...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raducux:
I stoped using auto brightnes. Too annoying. . Stock user

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmfita:
Once I had to re install the original rom ice cream to see if the brightness again. I got back the shine, but it happens again with other roms. Sometimes installing rom cuaquier recovers brightness.

The funny thing is, sometimes when I install the new rom, the first time does not recover the brightness, and i install the rom and it works.

Brightness What strikes me in both manual and automatic mode.

I try restarting many times to see if I recover the brightness and does not work. Yesterday remove the battery, and recovered the brightness.

It is very rare ...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo06:
Hi, is there a way to have voice recognition so that we can use it for writing sms in languages other than the custom ones like Greek? I bought Cyberon voice commander but it wont write sms and I am asking if there is a way to use the Cyberor's language engine with Google's Voice Search or Vlingo? I tried to set it on the voice recognizer under voice input and output settings but nothing!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] molesarecoming:
I use swype which comes with dragon dictation, which is awesome. It handles my native language almost perfect (German). I believe it can do greek aswell but haven't tried. Just download the beta on their page and give it an try.

Edit:

Sorry that was to fast, I tried downloading a greek language packet and they don't support it. :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo06:
Nevertheless thank you for your answer!:)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manoscello:
Swype does support Greek voice to text. I use it!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pmcee:
I love ICS but this is really annyoing. whenever i get to a message box it appears to be black font on a dark grey background. totally unreadable at daylight. is there a fix? why did samsung do this??

see attachment. thanks for the help.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Makrilli:
I think it's a bug in rom/ theme you use
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSaw:
Did you install some theme?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pmcee:
i'm using bezke ICS rom. nothing else.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Go back to the rom thread might be a bug or a modification .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pmcee:
ok thank you ;)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wayson:
I have tried a few custom ROMS and got the same dark fonts on black background issue in all of them. Does anyone know what is going wrong?

Help please..
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirbeksm:
And still Samsung gets to be the bad guy :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Hello

Yesterday at night when I was playing "another world" I noticed 2 unusal dots. The first one just above the search button does indeed move everytime I rotate the phone. Everytime I rotate the phone to left the dot appears but when I rotate it to the right, it comes back again, WTF? Anyone have this kind of issue? I have attached the pictures. Anyway to fix it?

EDIT: It doesn't seem to be dead pixles, it something else but I dont know what it is...it's moving when I rotate the phone and AFAIK dead pixles does not move.

Something else strange I have noticed is that everytime I close an app by clicking the "home button" for example Angry birds, the sound is still there. I need to close via the task manager in order to make the sound disappear. Not the sound of the game but a strange sound is still left

EDIT2: Is it possible that is water? Because I installed invisible shield some day ago...maybe little water got under the screen and is "floating"?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] loachh:
It won't be "water" cause water under/on the screen would never "rotate" with screen, I guess it's some "background" process that to monitor some action, and a minimum GUI was "1 pixel". So it a white dot
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Ah oke I was scared it was water. So there is no way to get rid of it? Its normal?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] loachh:
Did these dot only appear while you play this game or always on your display? Try to make a pure black(#000000) picture and view it as Full Screen mode, if it always appear, then it maybe some social apps or monitor like face recognition or gesture recognition services. If it only appear in these game, it maybe some social tools integrated in your games or cheating tools.

I guess it's posterior one, so just leave it.

If it's always exist, and you ARE a GEEK, then check every PROGRAMES on your Razr and figure out which/what perform this :D

If you're not a geek and it always exist, try to backup your system and data, then do a Factory Reset. Everythings goes well means it was some issues within some Apps you installed, If it still there, then it must been some issues in your integrated apps or some ROM issue
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nikorasu:
you can use es task manager's screen checker to check for dead pixels, it can also kill task, and manage startup tasks. I find it faster than razr's built in task manager.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milkshed27:
I have no idea what that little white dot is, I also noticed it when I got my Razr back in November. On the bright side I can tell you that out of 4 Razrs I've had and my girlfriends 2 all 6 of them have had the white dot in that same spot. I don't think it's anything to be worried about. Also, neither me or my girlfriend use a screen protector that requires a solution to adhere so you can rule that out as well.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
I just tried a pure black picture from the app "Dead pixel Detect and fix" and the white dote was still there. It is not just in games it's always there but most visible when there is a black background. I reall have no clue what program I should check, I thought it was watchdog tasker but I unistalled it and it's still there. I am using stock Rom 2.3.6 651.167.21.NonEFIGSretail.en.EU

Is there a way I can take backup when I am not rooted? I have not rooted the phone yet.

I just installed ES task manager and used screen checker, the dot is only visibile when there is black background sometimes blue background to. Is it OK to kill all the apps to see if the white dot disappear?

Ah alright maybe it's suppose to be like that then...I have no clue:confused:

Edit: I am performing a factory reset, I will come back with the results.

Edit2: It looks like its still there after factory reset.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milkshed27:
I'm beginning to think it's just an optical illusion brought on by glare and the capacitive buttons but who knows. It doesn't really bother me at all to be honest I just found it to be weird.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
yeah lol it doesnt bother me either but I thought the phone was defective.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nikorasu:
That means you have dead pixels. The other one at the corner of the screen is the shiny reflection from the phone design.

Bring it to a service center for an exchange, it looks like a big chunk of dead pixels at one spot.