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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Frankly, it doesn't seem that you are all that familiar with Android either. Realistically speaking, depending on the carrier, there is not that much bloatware on the sgh-I727. You also have options.. You can use titanium to freeze or remove what you don't want.

As for the nexus... It's a nice phone, but it's not LTE & you're stuck with 16gig! I've already got about 20gig used up on mine.

I'm sure you could sell your galaxy in a heartbeat... depending on the price.

As for the sim, as long as it's the same carrier, yup.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
Still looks like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchWiz

I froze all Rogers apps and some Samsung apps but this overlay is what I hate.

Mind you even for than I use a shell replacement.

But as I said ICS I love it on my tablet and it is great on the Galaxy Nexus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] skrambled:
I personally like the Touchwiz launcher, but if you don't like it you can download other launchers from the Market and customize them to your heart's content. Try Go Launcher, ADW Launcer, or Launcher Pro.

Go Launcher give you the most customization options but you have to deal with a bit of adware (that can be blocked with the right rom or ad-blocking apps).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pixelens:
I use ADW Launcher EX. Love it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
I use go launcher ex. LOVE it MORE :p

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cashyftw:
I mean if the galaxy s 3 has the same processor in all the models, then we should be fine, that's the only reason I would get an s3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
SPB 3D Shell

Running a shell and locking apps is not the same as running ICS.

I thought originally I do a lot of tethering but I have not, LTE speeds are nice but running a obsolete OS and customizing it is annoying me.

I am actually thinking about trying the dark side Metro, Nokia will have a device with a 4.5 inch screen. One thing about Microsoft is you will not have this stupid OS fragmentation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dvandam:
Frankly the lack of ICS is maybe third on my list of complaints about my Samsung Skyrocket experience. Here's my wish list in order:

1. AT&T finally rolls out LTE in my area (not Samsung's fault)

2. Samsung FINALLY releases the AOSP so we can get some clean, Touchwiz free ROMs (VERY MUCH Samsung's fault.)

3. ICS is released.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pixelens:
Not sure if I tried that one yet... at any rate - more the point was that one doesn't have to stick with TW ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] droseph:
360 Launcher with ICS theme with Sky ICS (I think) is the best :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] OzCDN:
Out of curiosity, what is it that you are trying to do that "O/S fragmentation" is stopping you from doing??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dvandam:
Maybe this was covered already or elsewhere, but does Samsung releasing the ICS source code for the Galaxy SII help our cause at all?

http://phandroid.com/2012/03/19/samsung-releases-galaxy-s-ii-android-4-0-source-code/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
Yes it has been posted.

No it does not help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dvandam:
:eek::(:mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
Are you the only person that likes waiting 9 months for ICS?

I used ICS both on my tablet and the Galaxy Nexus, and love it,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] greyhulk:
You talked to your Disk Operating System?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] NYFan:
I'm starting to feel sorry I bought this phone in January to replace my Motorola Atrix. This was one of the coolest new phones with LTE and I had high hopes assuming it would be up-gradable to ICS very soon since my Motorola Xoom tablet already had it. Boy was I wrong. Not even development work on it which is probably just as disappointing. The bottom line is there are no upgrades in the Android world apparently they force you into buying the new devices even though the specs go up ever so slightly. Its beyond ridiculous at this point especially since the GS 2 which is older but the same model without LTE already has the upgraded ICS!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jomeister15:
Development work ------> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1484408
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] NYFan:
Thanks jomeister15... I will check it out. Although from my intial sighting I only see that Alpha 0 had nothing working. Do you know what works and doesn't work with Alpha 2?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jnwhatle:
No. I cannot wait that long! Maybe its time for the regular gsii..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
here samsung
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Lucidmike:
Let's not overreact people. ICS has just arrived days ago on the Galaxy SII devices. Yet, people are talking like they are ready to exchange their devices because they've been ignored for longer than they've actually owned the device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tacotino:
Hahahahahahaha amazing!!!

Yeah I'll hold out! I know when we do get it there will be some amazing roms for it!!! Plus we have the bigger screen/ faster internet!!! Its a no brainer!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cashyftw:
Whoever recommended the 360 launcher, I love you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Except it's not in english
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cashyftw:
For the most part it is.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
So it's usable and functions well? from the reviews it seems decent, but a lot of them say they can't understand how to use it cuz it's not in english
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/20/android_interest_slipping/

Why fragmentation is a bad thing?

Some people say..... what is wrong with waiting.

Some people say..... it is ok to have MOTOblur, Touchwiz etc....

Some people are saying this can kill Android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Freemantig:
Its bull**** we have to wait. Our devs atleast have ics booting and they're not a super rich company like Samsung so wtf? Couldn't we just steal ics from the note? Or is it delayed too? ****in Samsung and att.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Exactly!! They should get their tails in gear & get ICS out to every device that it will run on! Apple can get new o/s out to all it's hardware.. BUT it doesn't have much variety. Microsoft on the other hand, has to deal with a huge variety of hardware... AND THEY DO IT! So, Google... What's YOUR excuse???? Gonna take some lessons from MS?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jnicks510:
My mom always said "patience is a virtue". Relax guys it'll happen sooner or later. Ranting every day won't bring us any closer to getting ics.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
....patience, sure I can wait.

But read articles the last few days saying that there are only 1.9% for the handsets running ICS, and this fragmentation plus it seems people have a hard time making a profit selling Android Apps is driving developers of apps away.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Someday men someday
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, well you see the roms coming out for the htc, the international gsll..... Makes me wanna puke. But I wouldn't trade the sgh - I727 for a nexus with 16gig of memory!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] phoneguy 4567:
IMO Android is the OS manufactures run to because it saves them from doing their own, & they can skin it like they like. They don't care about Android fragmentation as long as they can use the new OS version to sell new hardware, & people run from device to device every few months.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] andTab:
Exactly! Am getting fvcking sick of android and how google is handling.

BE evil???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Bro I doubt its on google but the device maker and carrier
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rjohnstone:
Look at the size of a typical Windows installation.

How much of that is dedicated to backward compatibility?

How much of it is dedicated to supporting hardware that may never be used again?

And MS has dropped a ton of legacy support with Win 7.

Their answer.... buy a new frikking PC. They're cheap.

This is the reason why Google leaves it to each vendor to supply the hardware support. It keeps the code base clean. Well cleaner anyway.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
It really has little to do with hardware.

1) Samsung get no money giving and upgrade.... let them wait.

2) Samsung thinks with want .... "Touchwiz"

3) Hardware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] droid512:
Did you say Sunday omfg thats awesome news

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kr3w1337:
If samsung expects customer loyalty then they should release updates on time. Last time I checked, making more money is directly related to how many customers you can retain.

Hardware isn't even an excuse period.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Problem is we are a minority most smartphone or any phone owners don't care as long as it works
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
yup, exactly. But I wonder how much longer our lil community can keep group venting about ics before we all go nuts lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] droseph:
You are very welcome sir. :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Probably sometime around hell freezing over cuz that's when ics gets released......right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WalkSoftly:
Samsung captivate relapse... (grabs popcorn)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
Read Motorola is upgrading one of their top products, adding new features....

they are releasing Android ..... 2.3.6

Fragmentation is not only Samsung's fault.

Motorola only has a funny idea on what "soon" means when they say they will upgrade their devices soon.

People (geeks in XDA Developers, every other person has no clue) are upset... soon um... maybe 2 weeks.

Manufactures, soon maybe 6 months or whenever we get around to it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] casianm:
It seems that not a lot of ppl here had an xperia x10...I for one waited for delays after delays...devs had a semi working cm9 by the time my phone died(prolly from flashing too much LOL)

Chill out, your ice cream will come :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] phoneguy 4567:
The X10 memories come flooding back :). Samsung has nothing on Sony when it comes to confusion & delays. My favorite was the great multi-touch debate, where Sony's website said it did then it didn't. The mere mention of the feature made people angry, because Sony is the best & they never use the feature.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] droid512:
I had an x10 it was surprisingly highly developed it was nice to prove to Sony that it doesn't have to stay on old tech
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] phoneguy 4567:
Yes the X10 wasn't bad but like here people on the x10 forum were always complaining about updates, and how far from stock Android it was. On the flip side legitimate complaints about multitouch & earpiece volume were getting shot down by a vocal minority.

The Skyrocket forums are way better IMO, but still suffer from some of the same complaints. Each company is going to delay releasing a free update IMO because there is nothing in it for them, & the only way you're going to get a stock experience is with a Nexus device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
I remember waiting forever for 2.3 on my x10, and the getting it and realizing it wasn't all that special lol. In this case I think ics is a huge jump in not just the os but conceots they use in gui and function. 4.0.3 also had all the experience of honeycomb to draw from
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
It is huge upgrade from 2.3.6

One of the reasons I want it.

Mind you could of go the Galaxy Nexus but decided I wanted LTE (big mistake it is just a phone).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] akhnatenor:
Sony's favorite strategy is to remove features as a product matures, not make it more functional.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kjdinoc:
Samsung may not get $$ by people upgrading but they do get "goodwill". So when the time does come to buy a new device you'll think "oh, Samsung is cool" rather than "Samsung sucks because they never get fixes and updates out on time".

My Motorola Xoom that is older than my Samsung Tab 8.9 updated to ICS about 2 months ago. No update in sight for the Tab.....really pisses me off. So what Company do you think I will look at when it is time to get new Hardware?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
If the cost of keep a very small percentage of geeks is more than the cost of loss business by a percentage of this very small percentage why bother.

Most people only know ICS as a summer treat.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Thank you I'm not the only logical person
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Well, even the freaking Barnes and Noble thingamajigy got ICS!! What's up with that???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
It's true, most have no idea that ICS is even a thought or that they are expecting any OS change. Nor do they expect or even care about this. We are the minority, I guess.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Yeah, I hear more people talking about ICS, in the frozen food section at the supermarket.... Depressing :(:banghead:

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
http://www.att.com/gen-mobile/press-room?pid=22620&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=34101&mapcode=consumer

The Vivid just got ICS and according to AT&T, so should the SR in a couple months. Sounds like AT&T is going to do a better job at updating devices. I know it sucks to wait, but we're still waiting on Sammy to finish ICS for the GS2 LTE anyway. At least we know it should be coming "soon" :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
If you want an updated device get an iPhone. We are only a minority because most people who want an updated device get an iphone. My parents have froyo and dont care. Android isnt that much different from the symbian days where you pretty much just got the software that came with your phone when you bought it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
More ICS frustration;

http://m.engadget.com/default/class...-vivid-android-4-ics-att/&icid=eng_latest_art

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Haha, like I've said before, its not a huge issue for me. I got rid of iPhone for this. Just stating facts

Sent from SKYROCKET

NexusMod 4.0

Romracer 0.3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
I was just doing the same
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cdshepherd:
Not sure if you fellas seen this yet or not but someone in Jo's pointed this out.

http://www.androidcentral.com/att-provides-ics-list-nothing-surprise-us
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Why can't we all just work on gb and be happy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Greener grass syndrome :p

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WalkSoftly:
it's true that most people don't know the difference but, we are centers of influence. When our friends and family want advice about the newest technology, they come to us. Our voice is louder than you think ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
I tell them to get an iphone because its simpler and works with all the crap they already have. If they know a computing language I tell them to consider an android phone. Guess which one happens more often.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WalkSoftly:
It's ignorance like this that intimidates people from trying Android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
Its true put aside the fanboiness and you would see. Do you want me to suggest they get an android phone where they have to learn how to root a phone and hope for dev support and check a forum for updates. Or should I suggest that if they dont care about knowing what flashing is that the get a phone which updates all their phones and the update process is just clicking a button to allow itunes to update your firmware.

I like flashing but I know some people just want something that is updated and works.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WalkSoftly:
I guess you're right, people never mod their iphones, never jailbreak them, never unlock mobile hotspot, never find siri hacks, and never install custom themes on their

IPhones... sarcasm over. the bottom line is there are a lot of apple users that look for more out of their device.

I am not a fan boy for android, I actually own the iphone and the sky rocket. but to say so that someone needs to know a computer language to use android, that's just f****** stupid.

Rant over
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tiger12490:
I come from an iphone with of course was jailbroken.. IV been using them since the original and would never turn back you don't need to speak clignon to root and android phone you just have to not be an idiot

TAPD on my Skyrocket using 2.0 beta
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tinfoil:
How is this true? I've recently replaced a dozen BB devices of varying age with the i727. My users, generally salespeople in the hydraulic business, aren't technically inclined. As long as it works, they don't care about updates.

I'll be rolling about about another dozen of these in the coming weeks as well, though some are to replace older Android devices and not just BBs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
I am not saying nobody mods their iphone , my whole point was about the average user which doesnt mod so I am not sure how using a minority population helps your argument, but you realize the majority of people dont do anything to their phone other than OTA stuff most people dont get throttled.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Most don't care about ota so why not android
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
exactly. I know several people who have iPhone, android and blackberry, and the majority of them don't update either. The only people who really whine about them are the geeks who use this forum, myself included
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
You get out of my brain my God
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
Everyone likes having their phone updated if it doesnt interfere with any of their current settings
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Updates are for broken features normally or security patches man you can't win this argument saying that iPhone is good only because they update ios once in a while
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
I know I cant win this argument in this forum when I have seen people post that they actually believe

Any Android Phone > iPhone

With a skyrocket or Nexus its debateable but with something like the lower end android phone I know im dealing with fanboi fail. So I know its not a debate that can be won but I can put facts out there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Personally, I just like getting updates! I'm not about to get a new phone every few days... So I'm always curious to see what the new updates bring :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Low end android phones yes suck but our phone or higher end yes demolish iPhone but with apple you pay a premium far a name not for power and function
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
and updates, some people care about that otherwise there would not be near infinity ICS threads
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
We are the minority again I will say this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
in the apple iphone crowd wanting updates isnt a minority, thats my point

in the android crowd yes we are in the minority because if you cared about updates you wouldnt buy android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
actually wanting updates is a minority. The masses only update when they see a new commercial with a cool feature (eg siri). Updating for security and bugfixes is still not a major event. Most people don't care. I will be honest though, becuz ios is so mature, this don't care attitude works.Android, not so much
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
but isnt that the apple update model they release updates that are centerpieced with a feature they can put in commercial like those voice control commercials for the 3gs which serves as both an ad for the os update and new device. Then they release the update to everyone so they get what the commercial advertises. This creates brand loyalty by promising something and delivering
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shaggyskunk:
Guess that I'm in the happy minority!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ItsDon:
iPhone = boring
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
I think maybe some people,

A) Never used a iPhone because if they did, I did the realize they are not great.

B) Believe all the Apple commercials just because it is easier than thinking and questioning marketing. I read low profile articles because iFanboys ignore them (rather believe Apple). Siri never lived to the hype and does not work (Google it)

C) Not thinking carries forward to believing Android in not mature ( go read PC world or any other Pro Apple mag .... believe it). I believe Android is mature, Google is just always looking for new ways to innovate add features ..... I rather this business model than slick marketing and law suits from Apple.

Android R02.3.6 is already more evolved and feature rich that iOS 5.0 ..... did not Apple steal notifications from Android. To me this says iOS is not mature.

Fine.... whatever back to waiting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] gpzjack:
I laugh that everyone is so bent about ics being delayed...i got it on my transformer a few weeks back and it really wasn't that big of a deal. It's an improvement but i didn't feel it was anything earth shattering. I'm only waiting on it because i want to root my phone after.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
I just want it for the custom rom's that will shatter the fabric of my reality
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
I just want a smooth gui that's rendered through gpu, and to see if battery increases as a bi-product, that's all I'm waiting on. The other features of ics don't really interest me, I want the under the hood progress if u will
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mrro82:
+1. I'm after pure AOSP deliciousness. ICS vanilla is awesome.

Sent from low Earth orbit with my SkyRocket.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evohog:
Downloading now, bamf is what I've been waiting for. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dekela:
Yeah!! ! GSM love!! Been waiting to try it out!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] quiro91:
do I have to flash Gapps?