yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
would this destroy my phone?

Sony Ericsson

EP310

1228-5779.1

input: 100-240VAC~100mA, 50-60Hz

Output: 5.0VDC === 550mA

Any thought on this?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Of course not, it will just charge a bit slower than most chargers. I have it too and used it without any issues.

The only thing is, that charger doesn't have enough power to charge the phone while running intensive apps. For example, if you're playing Angry Birds with that charger plugged in, you will see the battery percentage drop (very slowly).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tommfy:
my two pennies worth

my nokia N86 charger charges my SXS in 1 to 2 hours whilst running heavy apps like angry birds

i don't have the specs but i know its 1200mA

I've just used the charger and it does 0-100% in just over an hour - perhaps it could be a cheap replacement for an EP850?

its a Nokia AC-10X

5.0V/ 1200mA
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Woww, thats really pushing it there, I wouldnt use it for fear of ruining my cell within 6 months.

Ireland, came with an 850, boooyeah.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
I have my hands over a Xperia S package made for Germany's market. It has EP850 in the box with two Smart tags.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 3Shirts:
What about something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2A-New-Ma...ccessories&hash=item19ca7b990d#ht_2834wt_1101

Since the phone only draws what it needs, wouldn't this charge at high speed without damaging the phone?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] taxas:
I'm tempted to buy an ipad charger and try it out.

Can some more please try it out and tell me how fast you charge your phone ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 3Shirts:
I've just ordered the one I linked above so once I get it, I'll test and let you know. It's coming from China though so god knows how long it might take
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] deadsea:
Isn't 1.2A lower than then 1.5A on the ep850?

Anyways, back on topic.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries

It seems that the fast charger supposedly gets the battery to 70-80% fast. Not so much to full. Good if you run down the battery multiple times a day i guess.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reptile64:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...0551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&partNumber=CPELS
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Hmm, I must have been drinking that night. Mines actually an 800 :(

Due to the above, I thought the 850 was 850mA. My comment was unfounded.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] naughtb4:
Lucky you, mine is only an 800 :(

Whoops didnt see above
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
I assume you're the same person as on boards eh? "ED E" here :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SGR[robin92]:
Nokia n900 stock charger 1200mh

Works well ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
Interesting:

http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/188055#188055
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Hmmmm, does that mean they're using a pin short to enable "boost" mode? I've charged my phone with a HTC Desire S charger and it was wayyy faster so I'd have thought it was purely current based.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Xadious:
Yet another strange move by Sony; include a great feature like boost charging on their Xperia P model yet leave it out on the more powerful Xperia S model (with the bigger battery no less!). I really don't understand Sony's thought process.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Efe64:
Hes just talking ****..

One of the doesnt know types.. Like the customer service boys in India..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
I've also found that the HTC charger is much faster than the stock one
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Billy44:
sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep851/

Check this out guys. Sony UK website has it listed now but no pricing as of May 6.

Says that it supports fastcharging for :

Xperia S

Xperia P

Xperia U
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Think I'll be having me one of these when available ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sfkaudi:
Maybe you should try this out
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] deadsea:
I believe you have the ep800? That's 850mA vs the likely 1000mA on the HTC one. That's why it's faster. If you can get your hands on a ep850, it's going to be even faster. But don't be too surprised when the battery gets hotter too.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Keep checking Sony's website but still no option to purchase. You can bet the charger is going to cost around £40 - £50!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Jiffycom:
It's listed on this site as having recommended price of 219k which will probably translate to £19.99:

http://www.mobilgiganten.com/mobiltelefon-tillbehor/ep851-fast-charger-micro-usb.aspx

This page says "Charge for 10 minutes. Talk for 60":

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep851/

So I think we know for sure that:

Xperia S does support fast charging

EP800 is not a fast charger

EP850 and EP851 are fast chargers

I think I'll be buying an EP851 asap.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
If Sony list that for £19.99 then I'll eat my hat ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mrsatan:
http://www.turascandinavia.com/655095/sony-ericsson-mobile-phone-travel-charger-for-ep851-black_eng

30 euros or 38 bucks.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reptile64:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep851/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mrsatan:
Both my Xperia S phones came with fast chargers, but i do wonder what the ep851 is, unless its just the retail version of the 850.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BigPhil:
I am sure you have hit the nail on the head. Posted a thread about it before reading this. I estimate it to be a 1.5A charger with bridged data pins. Decent, but outclassed by the Playbook charger (my new fave...)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Just checked Sony's site and the EP851 is available to buy, now placing my order for £24.99 :)

EDIT: Order placed, express shipping order total £35, 1 - 2 days for delivery :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Can you do a test with BigPhil's app to compare the two?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] o>c:
Just got my Xperia P (yeah xda should add a dedicated forum for it once it hits Europe).

Only bundled with EP800 and I want the quick charger.

Now the Sony UK (using the same 3 pin socket :)) has it available, my local Sony is yet show the price or availability :(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Sure :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Well my charger is on its way and will be delivered Monday :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Ok received the EP851 charger today which is basically the EP850.

Had the phone on charge for 35 minutes and went from 18% to 63%
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BigPhil:
That is quite funny, they haven't even changed the model number, Makes you wonder why they even bothered selling it as an EP851. Surely changing its number means it has to go through safety testing again to be re-certified.

Can you imagine if you already had an EP850 and bought this for the mythical boost charge capability? I would be so angry.

Ian, does it mention anything about Boost Charge in the product documentation?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
It mentions fast charging on the packaging only, as attached.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] viiv:
I found out what is the difference, there is actually a newer EP851 however they are sending out EP850s until they run out of the old EP850 stock in EP851 boxes. I know, not exactly honest.

The confirmed difference between the old EP850 and the new EP851 is the old EP850 is Sony Ericsson branded and the new EP851 is Sony branded. They do both output 1500mah but it is unknown if there are any other circuitry differences between them. I am sure there are some circuitry revisions between them but it is unclear if they are functional differences.

ianford10, you were just unlucky being possibly one of the first or THE FIRST to order an EP851, you recieved old EP850 stock. It is unclear how long you would have to wait to order an EP851 to actually get an EP851 in the box; a week, a few weeks, a month, a few months?

Once someone actually recieves an real EP851 it would be interesting to see if there is any charging difference compared to the old EP850. It is possible I guess.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Then I am very tempted to complain as the product received is not as advertised
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] viiv:
You could. They'd probably just tell you to return it then under their return policy. That's what I'd do. I'd return it and then repurchase after a while after the old EP850 stock is cleared out.

This is the same situation with the new Sony phones included accessories. They are all still branded Sony Ericsson from the charger to the cables, they must have boxes and boxes of these accessories they need to get rid of before actually providing Sony branded accessories with our Sony phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
I really, really, really doubt there's any difference internally and the ONLY change is that they've changed SE to Sony.

Hardly a reason to complain.

If they did make any hardware changes, it would almost certainly require type approval and other testing, as well as the need to change the production line. What would be the point?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ianford10:
Think you're right, would just be kicking up a fuss for the sake of it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] viiv:
The first pic of a real Sony EP851 in the wild. This lucky Ion buyer in Taiwan got bundled with an EP851 :) In the two pics you can see both the top and bottom of the EP851. On the top it says Sony and the bottom it says Greenheart.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] taxas:
Just got mine. It says ep850... Does it matter ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BigPhil:
That depends. One one hand it is not what you paid for, on the other I can not see how how the charge time would be different. Both have the same power output.

If a full charge* takes much over 90 minutes be upset (Fast Charge should do it in 85). Otherwise be happy.

-- Phil

* full charge = over 90%. Phones gets a bit unpredictable above 90 as it tries to prevent damage to the battery.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] taxas:
im happy with the performance however should i complain that its a ep850 ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BigPhil:
If you are happy with it then, in my opinion, no. You paid for a fast charger and you got one.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Damoedge:
Hi all, new here and first post :)

Id just like to know would an ordinary generic phone charger with the exact same specs like the ep850 fast charge the sxs??

i was thinking of buying this one

amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004ZKIXNW/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d22_g23_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0269MKA51BSX7F6EF5F8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

any advice?

i tried a charger with output 2000mA 5v and it was useless, on charge it was about +300mA where as my htc desire charger gives about +1100mA.

Thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BigPhil:
This is a bit of a spoiler for an update I have been meaning to post for ages.

If you have cheap, high power charger that is under performing (~200-400ma) then using one of these

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-data-charging-extension-cable-for-samsung-p1000-black-91141

or these

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-power-adapter-for-samsung-p1000-81753

works brilliantly*. It essentially turns any USB cable into a charge cable, allowing the phone to drop the USB2.0 current limit and charge at its optimal rate.

If you haven't used DealExtreme before, they are brilliant, but delivery can take 2-3 weeks. Oh, and most of their stuff is cheap crap, but for cables and accessories they are great.

-- Phil

* except on genuine Apple chargers. They make their own rules.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Damoedge:
[/QUOTE]This is a bit of a spoiler for an update I have been meaning to post for ages.

If you have cheap, high power charger that is under performing (~200-400ma) then using one of these

dealextreme.com/p/usb-data-charging-extension-cable-for-samsung-p1000-black-91141

or these

dealextreme.com/p/usb-power-adapter-for-samsung-p1000-81753

works brilliantly*. It essentially turns any USB cable into a charge cable, allowing the phone to drop the USB2.0 current limit and charge at its optimal rate.

If you haven't used DealExtreme before, they are brilliant, but delivery can take 2-3 weeks. Oh, and most of their stuff is cheap crap, but for cables and accessories they are great.

-- Phil

* except on genuine Apple chargers. They make their own rules.[/QUOTE]

To Phil... I dont get it, if you switch it to charge on the deal extream cable and then connect your sxs charge cable will the sxs cable switch it back to both data/charge before entering the phone??

also it didnt really answer my question as above but interesting idea :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BigPhil:
Sorry, I'll try to answer your questions one by one.

Any charger that outputs 1500ma will perform the same as the EP850. Chargers that output more than this (like the Orange tipped Playbook charger) will outperform the EP850. This assumes that a charge cable is used. Expensive chargers seem to have this conversion built into them (the EP850 does) allowing full performance regardless of cable. Cheap chargers tend not to.

The items on DX do this job as well, they turn a data cable into a charge cable. Note that this is a one way process. A dedicated charge cable will always be a charge cable and never a data cable. Daisy chaining 1 or 50 of these adapters behaves the same. Once converted to a charge cable, the data lines are bridged and can not become unbridged (without removing the adapters).

The charger you listed on amazon will almost certainly not have this capability built in, and neither did the 2A charger you tested. Plugging one of the DX adapters in will allow the phone to use the charger properly. If you use the one with the switch, and it is in DATA, it will do nothing and you will only get 300ma or so.

Does that make sense? Did I miss anything?

-- Phil
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Damoedge:
Thanks Phil yep it all makes sence, anyways i just bought the deal X switcher cable so hopefully it will work on my 2000mA charger.

funny thing is it acts as a fast charger on my ipod touch.

i originally thaught it didnt fast charge the sxs because the battery capacity is 1750mA and using a 2000mA charger was over the 1750 mark..but anyway thanks for your help
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BigPhil:
[sorry if you already know this]

I can see how you could come to that conclusion. What you have done is go the units wrong for the battery wrong. It is maH, not ma. This means it can output 1750ma for 1 hour, and likewise, under perfect conditions, a 1750ma charger would charge it completely in 1 hour. There is a school of thought (from 7 years ago) that charging a li-poly battery to capacity in less than an hour is bad for the battery. This is why if you connected a 20A PC power supply directly to the phone it will only charge at about 2A, the phone protects the battery and it only charges at the rate Sony feel is safe. In practice this means that nothing will charge the phone faster than a 2A charger.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Damoedge:
Longer battery life bump charge + hard reset

Just to let ye all know i tried bump charging the phone followed by a hard reset and im getting a lot more juice out of the battery, maybe an extra 15%

look for info on google about both and do at your own risk, just thaught id share with ye
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
Anybody manage to reach a conclusion?

I would be very happy with 0-80 in 15 minutes! :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] m1st3r1:
sxs can do fast charge (if by definition, it can get more than 1 A (1000 mA) when charging), but not that fast.

but if u compare with others, 0-80 in around 1 hour is pretty amazing.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Xadious:
Anyone know how to open the EP800 charger?

I want to short the data pins permanently without having to modify external cables or use additional usb gadgets. In the charge app thread it's been shown that doing so results in the phone being charged at closer to the 730ma mark, otherwise with a datacable it charges at around 420ma (although my result was around 600ma with a datacable).

I took the two screws off but that only takes the earth pin out (uk plug).

Is the thing glued together or can it be pryed open? I don't want to damage it hence the query.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dSayonarab:
Quick Note: Anything "Designed for iPad" will not fast charge the XS, in my experience.

I was incredibly lucky; when my laptop is asleep, it will fast charge the XS off the USB 3.0 port. Full charge in under two hours! :laugh:

According to the current-measuring app on my home screen, the XS won't charge faster than 1500mA/h even if the charger is capable of supplying more current. I suppose it's a precaution to prevent the phone from catching fire (or, less dramatically, wearing out the battery too quick). The widget actually tells me it's registering +~800 to 1000mA, but given that I know power consumption hovers around 5-700mA while I'm using it, it seems pretty close to the 1500mAh mark. I've caught it at +1400mA immediately after unlocking the phone once!

If you have a PC with "Sleep and Charge" USB 3.0 ports, try connecting your phone while the machine is off/hibernating/asleep. You might find that you already own a fast charger :laugh:. If your machine is on, the XS will charge at the same speed as it would on any other USB port.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, the XS also has temperature limiters programmed in, it seems. It'll slow the charging rate if it approaches or exceeds a battery temperature of forty degrees.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cikomiko:
nevermind. mistake
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Damoedge:
Ok, i got my charge cable from deal extreme as recommended by Phil in post #77.

Heres the deal, i connected it to my 2A charger to the charge cable then to the phone cable and the reading from battery monitor widget gives ~ +1300mA on average charging from 0 to 90%

From this i take it that the battery regulates the input charge (2A charger with dedicated charge cable giving +1300mA) or maybe its got to do with temp also.

Iv noticed here that no one has given a reading for the new ep 850/851 charger? it would be interesting to see this reading as i think it will be around the same as mine +1300mA....so if someone could give a reading thanks?

Im in the process of testing the 2A charger and charge cable with Phil's app i will post results soon.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Damoedge:
Phil's app test completed :o

View attachment 1156983

IS this good??
[Off-topic] tuffCookie:
i posted my phone for sale on Craigslist. now i only deal with people locally and for cash, but someone had contacted me asking if i would ship to Louisiana.

now i've seen my fair share of scams. i've only texted with him/her so far and obviously having to ship and pay via PayPal were big red flags. otherwise, no broken English, no request to ship outside the continental US, etc.

IF (a BIG if) i decide to go through with this, here's a checklist:

confirm payment has been added to my account via logging in and/or calling PayPal to verify

ONLY ship to confirmed address listed on buyers PayPal account

opt for shipping insurance, delivery confirmation and signature verification (PayPal rep told me to do this to ensure I have paperwork in case a charge back occurs)

what do you think? i'm still strongly against shipping and will probably stick to my initial reaction...
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
I wouldn't do it.... But I'm a paranoid scaredy cat.
[Off-topic] Archer:
If uncertain, wait till the money has moved from PayPal to your bank account before sending. I usually stipulate that on my eBay auctions and no-one's ever complained.
[Off-topic] tuffCookie:
thanks everyone.

as soon as i told buyer i'm only shipping to confirmed address on his/her PayPal account, they stopped responding to me. :D
[Off-topic] jaszek:
What does the first email you go look like? (Protip: post the email here)

This way I can tell you if its a scam after posting dozens of ads on CL.
[Off-topic] htc fan89:
when I get those types of emails or text, I tell them either pay by western union or take your **** else where.....:cool:
[Sony Tablet S] SuMiHe:
Sorry, but i can't post in the other section.

User condi need's the data, here we go...

ro.sony.update.server=info.update.sony.net

ro.sony.update.category_id=ST001

ro.sony.update.service_id=nbx03_007

ro.sony.sku.base=nbx03_007

SGPT111DE/S 16 GB without 3g
[Sony Tablet S] jmcm66:
I also can't post there, so I'm just using this topic.

Thank you so much for all your work.

Bellow is the information I found in my tablet.

SGPT112PT/S

32 Gb Portugal

ro.sony.update.server=info.update.sony.net

ro.sony.update.category_id=ST001

ro.sony.update.service_id=nbx03_011

ro.sony.sku.base=nbx03_011
[Sony Tablet S] gPerry:
Same here. Bought mine in HongKong, but living in the UK, so a version changer will come in handy. My info:

16GB, WiFi, HongKong

SGPT111HK/S

ro.sony.update.server=info.update.sony.net

ro.sony.update.category_id=ST001

ro.sony.update.service_id=nbx03_029

ro.sony.sku.base=nbx03_029
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cyhak:
Hello im searching for a very good and stable Nand Android Rom for my european HTC HD2 :D

I have now the American Android and it is tooo slowww!

It is sooo slowwww...:mad: And sometimes The came does not works...

It should run very quick.... and everything should work....

Thank You and sry for my bad english

Wich do you use?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nigeldg:
This one.

Now stop asking stupid questions. There is no best ROM.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pathaniya:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1395049 try this or try pongster's rom or any of the MIUI rom. And yes there are best rom but which one is it? Depends on you, a kernel is what makes a rom good or best, IMHO rest is all cosmetic. Try any of the Tytung 's rom, you might love them. Or else keep flashing until you find your love ;)

Have fun
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soltysik:
Hi,

I know I might be annoying with that but could someone please send me valid NV2 backup file for P500? Phone will operate in Poland but I will change the IMEI to the one from the box anyway.

Thanks in advance for sending it to me by PM.

best regards
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rayman96:
--polish language--

Co ty chcesz zrobić? Uwaliłeś telefon?
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deniso177:
this doesnt happen with KDZ =)
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hakan 3:
Please I need P500 NV Backup .nv2 file

dont worry in p500 Its not contain IMEI number

please PM me
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yamishinigami:
Hey guys! The other day my phone just died and I could only get it into recovery mode. I tried flashing it with KDZ to no avail so I ended up falshing it with LGMDP but my nv2 file got corrupted (its only 14kb now). Could anyone help me out and send me an nv2 backup Im going to edit the imei and all info that still remains in my nv2 so please help me.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shinobisoft:
If y'all would actually use the excellent search feature that this site has, you'd find the answers you're looking for.

However, since I'm a nice guy and all, you might want to check this post. ;)

If this isn't exactly what you're looking for, here's my search query -> "unbranded nv2 p500" . Use "Search All Forums" in the upper right hand corner of your browser window.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yamishinigami:
Thanks shinobisoft you saved my life (or rather my phone's life :D)