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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] godofping1111:
fast

Thanks I installed by using ODIN it took's only 6 sec....BTW how to get 1 ghz cpu like in the ss
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] #Henkate:
1ghz is available in other version(i dont remember) but with lag,bug.I want 1ghz but is not possible because burn :))
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ROFLkopter:
I'm on ChobitsDigitalis v1.8 and was on v1.0.8 which were working perfect together. I updated to the pre-2.0 Final via Odin, worked perfect, rebooted twice then rebooted into recovery. I flashed the Ext4.zip and rebooted, my phone went dodgy. When it booted (after waiting a while), I had no Status Bar. The setup wizard was a bit laggy, and eventually force closed, leaving me with a blank, black screen...

Just thought I'd let you know what happened. It might've just been me and my phone :D

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
Flashing Ext4.zip makes wipe the data and cache.. It's perfectly normal.You need to reflash a rom or restore your nandroid backup as soon as you flash Ext4.zip
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ROFLkopter:
Oh, right. When I got the force close, I thought it had messed up, so I restored my backup. Does that mean the ext4 is actually installed on my phone then?

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
It converts the data and cache partition to ext4 from rfs..ext4 is installed.. It will be ext4 even though you restore a backup
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ROFLkopter:
As a noob I have to ask: What're the benefits of using Ext4? I just read somewhere on this thread that it makes the phone faster, that's why I flashed it after installing the pre2.0

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
As I've said before it converts data and cache to ext4 from rfs which makes the data read more faster and hence more faster..
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] hell_lock:
Ext4 is the latest partition used but it is useful only when your sd card is of very high capacity such as 10 gb min.... If its of less capacity then i recommend you to not go for it... Ultimately its ur choice to do wateva u want
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
He is flashing Ext4.zip not partition sd card to ext4.. Ext4.zip changes data partition to ext4 doesn't modify /format sd card
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] draiyan:
what is the best sdext format? ext2? ext3? or ext4? which one is fast and reliable on the long run?

im currebtly trying pre final on chobits..

wish me luck dudes. :D
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
yes i have stock i need to all members got this kernel ;) :)

@funny95 am working on it :)

anddddddd.....?????

it's done by adding another sysint.rc and call it from init.rc :)

it's works and you don't need to do a suffixe like detailled on the topic ex MT_*.

Just pute your scripts :)

Added blmunlock and a script to call it at boot :)

please give report when it done.

Uploading now
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] termagazis:
it wont work right.you cant have all.if you have init.d suport then you cant boot in stock rom because init.d folder and other files are missing.i'll try it though.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
It's Done Guys.

" MerrukTechnology Kernel v.0.7 RC 10 ".
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
Thank you very much sir.

See the new change log and the new version :d now we can easily add features we have init.d completely supported :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] termagazis:
i'll try it and report in a while
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Harsh06:
the latest boot img (0.7.00 rc 10)worked on my phone..thanks sir.gonna test all the bundle now.thanks u so much!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] rohit589769:
sir is the phone lag due to oc upto 1ghz fixed in the latest version " MerrukTechnology Kernel v.0.7 RC 10 ".
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] termagazis:
it dont boot in custom rom with init.d etc.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
@ronnieryan

see the detailed change log now.

needs confirmations from members to know what's going on.

Next :

need a working CWM converted to default location like if it installed.

script used on the original flashable one.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Harsh06:
currently im using hybrid 2.1 and flash this boot img using tools from faqbly and its boot
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
try to delete all related things from your init.rc

need to got a perfect kernel to run easily roms without a lot of mods in roms (The Kernel do everything ) . :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] termagazis:
i dont know what changes you have made to init.rc
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
am just added exec /sbin/sysinit.rc

by do way. give me the line when it hungs at logcat.

Thank you
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] termagazis:
the problem is that i cant test your next releases.except if you dont put init.d suport and add it in the final release only when everything will be ready!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] mai77:
test report Merruk kernel version 0.7 rc 10

droidwall: negative, exit code 11, unchanged

adb root: negative, unchanged

overclocking: positive - antutu allows 1 GHz instead of 832 MHz clock & several governors like userspace -- AMAZING !

other observations: so far stable :D

as an ardent underclocker, I use this app to save more battery than before, see pic above :D :p

please follow summarily kernel report in post #26
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
@ronnieryan

we dont need the flasher i will poste it here. only boot.img

blmunlock alrady integrated in the kernel
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] hell_lock:
Ext 3
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] draiyan:
finished flashing but after booting, i just gor black screen, all i can do is pull the notif bar..
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] godofping1111:
bootimg

how to get back in stock kernel incase of emergency?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] PacketJ:
error mounting sd-ext in CWM. how do I fix this?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] soraci:
maybe your data has been wiped, are you using launcher other than touchwiz?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Porobu:
Install stock kernel using ODIN

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] harigavara:
Guys pls help.how to install this 2.0 pre final kernel.omit on stock now
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] #Henkate:
Flash Kernel Via CWM by mai77(My Prefered Way

Download the following and place to the Root Of SD card

CWM

KernelUpdate.zip

Ext4

MerrukTechnology v2.0 Pre-Final(boot.img ONLY)

System 1.0.8

(Note : For system 1.0.8 it contains "system" folder, extract that folder and place in root of SD card)

Now we are all set

1. Turn off phone and boot into CWM

(Note: To boot into CWM press Vol Up, Home, and Power at the same time and in the stock recovery choose update from zip and select the CWM.zip)

2. Once in the CWM recovery, simply choose install from zip and select KernelUpdate.zip

(Note : Kernel Update.zip looks for a boot.img file in SD card and flashes it)

3. After successful kernel up press power to return to CWM

4. Press Reboot now, and your kernel is updated

5. Reboot twice and it will automatically delete the system folder in SD card

6. Repeat step 1 and select install from zip, this time choose the Ext4.zip

7. Press power to return to CWM and Press Reboot now.

You can check post 3 in first page.Thanks to ronnieryan for tutorial!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] godofping1111:
asdads

I DL bootstock.img how to use it by using Odin? thanks BTW
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ROFLkopter:
Flash as PDA on Odin

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] harigavara:
Guys can u tell me wat exactly r the uses of this kernel.for watt i shud choose this ????
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] #Henkate:
you can overclock(312 and 832 frequency),performance and more,check post #1
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] godofping1111:
bootimg

what should i do to get back to stock kernel (dxla1)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] CrowsZer0:
flash via odin to remove the stains of merruk kernel
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] godofping1111:
can u give me step by step and dl links? ...
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] savie:
Just follow doky thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1465800

PS. Please read from 1st page and read carefully. :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Chucrute:
AWESOME KERNEL!!!!

but the cwm is so slow...
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] 21071992:
If I install the other version of this kernel, do I need to install system.zip and ext4.zip again, and other tweaks ( v6 superchager, beats audio,...) will be lost or still in me phone? :D
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] sireangelus:
After some tests, I decided that the best io scheduler is deadline, please test and in case make it default.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] wandroiders:
droidwall not working on my stockrom. Please help. Master :what:

sent from SGY based on DDLE1 stockrom with merruk kernel 2.0 pre final
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
No need to install again..

In terms of performance or battery saving?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] EliTSamsunG:
In my Opinion, Sio Have Best I/O Performance.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] mikstev:
Use search and you'll find a thread I started with the necessary kernel modules and how to load them via init.d at boot time.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] maxsan20:
after installing merruk kernel pre2.2 i m unable to restore to my Stock rom or any other rom backup by CWM. it show the boot img error any1 tell me how can i restore to orignal kernel
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] GzC:
How to install busybox with this kernel?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
Use Busy box installer from play to install

Busybox installs but is temporary..you need to install every time you reboot the phone..
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] GzC:
So is that consider as a bug or what?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
It is a bug..
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] devilrulz4ever:
works with repencis3?

Y u no press thanx!?

scribbled from my galaxy y
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Filip98:
i have a question how can i uninstall Merruk 2.0 pre from my phone .... because every time i simply flash stock kernel (xxla2 kernel) from odin it results in a boot loop and flashing stock firmware nothing works except flashing merruk again .... i dont know how i got rid of merruk earlier :P i want to remove it so i can update my firmware to the latiest one and the update from the phone allways fails ....
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] kurotsugi:
you can use odin to flash stock kernel. if you have PDA_xxx.tar file from stock firmware, you can remove system.img from it then flash it with odin. it will flash only the kernel and bootloader inside PDA_xxx.tar. if you have PDA_xxx.tar.md5, you simply rename it to PDA_xxx.tar.

PS: if you have stock kernel but don't have any stock firmware you can try make a tar file of your stock boot.img with 7zip or another compression app. I never try this method but theoritically it will work.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ianczarina:
guys will a2sd work if i flash ext4?

and do i need to install 1.0.8 system if i flash 2.0 via odin?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Raol Emostar:
You dont need Ext4.zip for A2SD to work. Just flash the kernel.

As for the second question, place the extracted System folder in the root of your SD card, and flash the kernel via Odin or any other way.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Raol Emostar:
Do a data wipe from stock recovery after you flash back to stock ROM. Reinstall the ROM if it doesnt boot. Or you could just flash the whole stock firmware package via Odin.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] duking:
You can download a compatible stock rom from sir doky's thread then follow his instruction on flashing to stock. If bootloops happen after flashing, boot on recovery via the home+volume up+power button and clear user and cache.

Thats what i do everytime i encountered hang ups and bootloops.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] kimerika:
I've successfully flash meruk 2.0,, is this complatible with chobilts rom?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] CrowsZer0:
Yes.. it is compatible
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] kimerika:
i just read chobits got trouble when it flash with meruk kernel, "stock at samsung logo",,what did you do first.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] emompong:
Hi, I cant root my SGY after installing the 2.0 and ext4.zip.

Can you help me.

I cant use A2SD too.. no scripts found.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] 21071992:
flash rom first, then flash kernel :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] kimerika:
how guarantee it is safe,, di u made it
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Spragen:
after flashing the kernel . my status bar was missing . any solution ?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] mlacson29:
How do you know you successfully flash ext4 ??
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] sunilvyas:
hello marco!

i have one suggestion to you, kindly make 1st post little easy! remove some unwanted stuff! update it! so we can't get confused by jumping on others post to know whats going on and how to do!

thanks
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] sireangelus:
wipe the cache.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Droid_beginner_student:
feedback 0:)

well,mr.marroc and others..

i just flash marroc kernel 2.0 about 5-6 days ago,and that time i'm using repencis v3..

my feedback: the ram used by your kernel is heavier,if compared to my ram used before flash marroc. well,repencis have their own kernel.

i dunno whats difference between yours and repencis's kernel,but that's the fact.

maybe my feedback can help for another improvents :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] manu4204:
does 2.0 support dual boot??
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] schalkerjung1984:
no ;)

Gesendet von meinem GT-S5360 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] mlacson29:
noob q here: what does ext4.zip really do/create on the system? will it automatically partition your sd on ext4? or do you still need to partition it manually? can somebody enlighten me on this one.. thanks :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ianczarina:
after flashing ext4.zip, i cant install any apk. it keeps on rebooting when i install an app. help please..
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] duking:
I would assume that you sir is using a Chobit Rom since i face the same problem with merruk and chobits before. I'll suggest you install first a root explorer then use it to browse chobits V1.O .browse through the system-etc.-init.d and you'll find the A2SD script.Copy the extracted files to the folder at root of SD with the name scripts. Reboot the phone.

try installing A2SD or Titanium first as i usually do. If both will install, you are good to go with the other apps.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ajay131:
Sorry if it a Noob Que.:

Extract The Content of Sustem.zip to the Root of your SD-Card (DRIVE_LETTER:/system). But where is root of sd card????? i m using file explorer & astrozip. pls help me ,where toextract system folder exactly.. whether in sd card(not inn any folder) or else.??:confused::confused::confused::confused::(
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] #Henkate:
extract to /sdcard.

@Maroc-OS: my battery life is good when i use 312 mhz,governor power save and io sheduler noop.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ajay131:
thanxxx. will try:):):):)

---------- Post added at 11:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 PM ----------

didnt happen. odin showed Pass but CPU tuner is showing 832. Setting==> about phone showing this kernel. What to do??????? this is happening with me 2nd time...:(:(:(:(
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] EliTSamsunG:
AFter 1 day With 312 mhz and 1 day with 832 mhz,i dont see any big diference :D
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] kimerika:
@ MAROC: my baterry drain so fast even i dont often use my SGY, (im on work for 8HRS/6 days a week),, i hope u considered.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] leodasal2:
patiently waiting for your final release sir :cool:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] maxsan20:
thats it; or i have do some more please help me on ext4 &

on these apps i m not a technical person so need some more info.

A2SD

Droidwall

No-Frills CPU

CPU Tuner:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] kimbaduds:
first is backup your files in SD CARD, then reformat it. and if you have 2nd partition, reformat it also. if you are going to install merruks kernel make sure you have a fresh formatted sd card and partitions.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] maxsan20:
( after installing the " MerrukTechnology v2.0 Pre-Final" my root right lost dont know what happen but non of my root app & scrip are working & when i try to root it again it fail & show the ERROR :7 please help
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Porobu:
Are u using superuser app?

merruktechnology kernel doesnt work with supersu
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] #Henkate:
if you flashed,check settings>about phone>kernel version(will be MerrukTechnologyKernel,something like).If not is,try to flash again.Method Odin:

1.Download merruk kernel(.tar).

2.Boot into download mode(press Vol Down, Home, and Power at the same time).

3.After 5 seconds warning screen appears and press Vol Up.

4.Browse for the merruk kernel .tar in the PDA field.

5.Leave all other fields and checkboxes default.

6.Connect your phone.You must see yellow 0:[COMxx] in the first ID:COM and "Added" in the message box.

7.Start flashing by the START button.

8.Flashing will start immediately,see the progress in the message box, and progress bar on the phone.

9.Wait 1-3 minutes, until green PASS! in the upper left.

10.SGY will reboot,leave it as is for 2-5 minutes until startup finishes.

11.This is important: .....:::::Enjoy:::::.....

Dont forget to use Odin version sgy.Check this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1464775 thanks him.And dont forget to thanks to @ronnyerian(for #3 post-tutorial).With merruk kernel v2.0 you can overclock to 312 mhz and 832 mhz.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] maxsan20:
than how can i use HYBRIDE ROM'S rom manager or titanium backup & other apps which require Superuser permission.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Porobu:
Supersu is another app that uses its own su binary

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ajay131:
yes, i did the same, n it is showing the kernel version of merruk. But when i use CPU Master, it shows 832 only(not more than that like 1024 or any else). what does that mean???? Did it overclocked or not????:confused::confused:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] PREMOLIKES:
Lets do some tricks,,a cure for flaws!

Flaws

1)Su

2)busyboxs

CURE= Flash unroot.zip from CWM,And again flash root.zip by yodeput,Yodeput's su,busybox works like a charm.

3)unable binary update

Cure= flash binary update given by me somewhere in this thread.

4) unable to get rid of maroc kernel or unable to change kernel

Cure=mount system from CWM if u want to flash from sd,,or use odin.

5)about draining battery

Cure= bull **** ,After my first battery low warning ,I can download 70 mb from edge at snails speed,,may be it sucks in standby mode ,,but thats again a b..shh.

..»{{{{{{» Slow cwm ,,No cure until next update.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] #Henkate:
is possible to overclock to 312 mhz and 832 mhz,is not possible to 1024.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Raol Emostar:
You cant overclock! Jesus!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ajay131:
i also tried MerrukTechnology_Final_1.0.8 Didnt workout for me. I tried a lot. Now i m fade up. I have overclocked to 900 months before. Cant understand why this is giving problem????:(:(:(:(:(
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Porobu:
Merruktechnology kernel has no overclock capability

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ajay131:
Sorry sorry sorry Sir Porobu, Sir funny95, Sir Raol Emostar to trouble you all. I understood i was making a silly mistake. I was assuming that this kernel will overclock my sgy beyond 832 MhZ & was thinking accordingly. That means I've already installed this kernel. Sorry again guys. & Thank you all...:D:D:D:D:D:D.

How silly was i !!!!:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] -CALIBAN666-:
im on termarom and when flash the kernel,my statusbar disappears,any ideas,need help please,thx:confused:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Addyz:
system 1.0.8.zip....how to extract the zip???....just extract the zip and you will get "system" folder and put in your root of your sd card...thats it??
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] CrowsZer0:
yes.. place the system 1.0.8.zip on the root of your sd card then extract it then reboot two times.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Raol Emostar:
Try data and cache wipe. Or just reflash your ROM.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Kousthubha Kumar:
It is due to flashing Ext4.zip.. It wipes the data partition and changes it to ext4. Wipe data and cache and reflash the rom
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Maroc-OS:
Fixes for the kernel+initramfs and new CWM Touch From Sources

Hello everybody,

sorry guys really am very sorry, i don't have time to answer for all this questions but i have a good news.

The CWM Touch is here and new kernel with small improvements and good fixes.

so Fixed (Kernel + Initramfs + CWM Recovery based on v5.0.2.7)

mount sdcard from recovery work and good speed.

whitexp is testing it now.

guys that PM'd me i will read the PM's tomorrow.

See you soon
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] PREMOLIKES:
Givme the stuff i will test it.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Addyz:
my kernel is now updated to merruktechnology kernel 2.0 pre-final...which is good....

im confused with the system folder...i rebooted twice but the "system" folder did not disappear in my sd card...hope it is okay.....or I can delete it Manually or what?? thnx guys...:D

hehe..i found my mistake..i didnot move the system folder from system_1.0.8. to the root of sd card...my bad..^^.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Raol Emostar:
Yayyy! xP Hope its bug free.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] ROFLkopter:
That's brilliant news Maroc! Personally, I've had no major problems with the Pre-Final 2.0 so I'm eagerly awaiting your next kernel :) Keep up the brilliant work, Sir :D

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] GzC:
Will you fix the busybox issue in next version? Hope you do.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] draiyan:
+1 on this, new features are awesome.. but more importantly please fix busybox upgrade issue..
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] leodasal2:
wow!! cwm touch!! awesome!!

more power to you sir and Thank you for all your hard work :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] evanlocked:
Good to see u pliss see our rom project at dev section i have already released it sir
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] sri10:
whenever i flash a zip thru cwm, it flashes succesfully but it doesnt change anything when d device boots

, any fix guys
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Porobu:
Mount system in CWM

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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] Raol Emostar:
Yup, thats Mounts and Storage in CWM menu>Mount System. Do this everytime you flash anything.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Android Development] kykemejia:
Lost root!!

Install the kernel Merruk v2 and the ROM CHobitsDigitalis V2 and lost the ability to root I had, I have to get it back?

This Kernel Merruk v2 by problems with Root???

Or is problem of the ROM???