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[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FRiKiNFRoG:
Hi everyone, I currently own a Sony Experia X10 that is getting old/slow, battery does not last and is quickly dying (tried many roms, played with it a lot, now all it does is crash multiple times a day whatever the kernel/rom I use) and I plan on switching in the current week. I'm in Canada with Rogers. Currently looking at what Rogers offers me, galaxy S2, razr, nexus, raider, etc... Any suggestions? Modding is a maybe for the next one, it all depends on how well it works oob. Link to current phones they have:

http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...henPlan&productType=normal&N=52+78+4294948360

What would you suggest? Read a lot of review and cannot make up my mind on one, some I love the design, other the camera, they all seem pretty good in terms of performance, ICS available now or in a near future is part of my considerations... thoughts?

Thank you!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FRiKiNFRoG:
hehe sorry about that, I looked where I could post this and missed the Q&A, n00b me :/
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I_@m_me:
Did you try a full wipe or/and reverting to stock that may help with the fcs
[Android Software Development] mydave1:
Thanks for sharing this useful info.

I don't know much about android, so I am most hesitating to comment anything.

I tried your build.prop version 08. The tablet starts up quickly. What I hoped to see if GT Motor Racing Academy Free would run, but it did not. The paid version ran fine though.

Thanks
[Android Software Development] areankim:
which line actually deal with the camera hardware?

Trying to find a solution to skype video being zoomed to the max.
[Android Software Development] dozz01:
The camera in Android is difficult to adjust or to manipulate - because the drivers are embedded deep in the Android source code. The build.prop unfortunately is not able to help here.

One doable solution would be to cancel the whole zoom functionality -> through deleting certain files or code lines.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dante58:
Hi all,

I was wondering whether there would be any way to flash a custom modem or a ROM that would unlock the LTE bands so that the Vivid can access HSPA on Tmobile's network?

From what Ive read, the AT&T GS2 Skyrocket and the AT&T Galaxy Note have been unlocked through this method and Im not sure why the Vivid cant be since it shares much of the same specs between it and the Skyrocket & G-Note

Thanks
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
No that isn't possible, tmobile and att have different bands. I know that you could use a sim card on the vivid, but you wouldn't get the same speed.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] strose09:
IIRC you can use a T-Mobile phone on ATT and get 2G but can't use ATT on TMO.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] twolves14:
The LTE band can be used on Tmobile to get 4G download speeds. As visible here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1507825

OP is asking if this is possible for the Vivid, need a Tmobile radio to flash. Would be great if someone could work on it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] id10terrordfw:
No. The LTE Band will never work on T-Mobile's GSM. What allows the Note and Skyrocket to work is that they have the pentaband hardware GSM modem and flashing a different software modem enables access to those frequencies on GSM.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Aus_Azn:
Uh yeah, it's going to be hard to get the LTE bands on the LTE radio on the phone to pick up UMTS/HSPA signal.

There's a reason why phones are usually advertised like:

GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz

UMTS/HSPA 850/1900/2100MHz

LTE AWS700MHz

They kiiiinda aren't interoperable. Note how you can't connect to UMTS 900MHz or use a Telstra LTE phone and get 1800MHz 2G service if the phone doesn't have that band in its 2G spectrum.

I remember reading about the pentaband radios having UMTS/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz. That's still pretty different than your standard quad-band GSM radio.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] RavenII:
It is absolutely possible...given that the specs on GSM Arena and Phonescoop are right...

700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz

It has the correct pair for Tmobile.

The only thing is whether or not you can flash the radio with a Tmobile equivalent (Amaze?) radio.

What happened to all the hardware hackers on this forum? It seems as if no one knows ANYthing about the interworkings of a network anymore.

Anyhow, the phone having the bands and knowing what to do with them are 2 different things. For example. Stereo FM 101.9 Mhz vs. HD(Digital)-FM 101.9...they're both on the same band/frequency but are utilized differently...

The signals are still transmitted on the same frequency, however the radio itself doesn't know how to decode/interpret the HD (Digital) signal...unless it is told how to do so.

The only place that this analogy differs is when it comes to actual comparison of FM receivers and Cellular phones. With FM receivers it actually requires a decoder to understand the digital signal being broadcasted...Cellular however just needs to be flashed and voila, you've got HSPA...

So. Yes. It is %100 possible.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] id10terrordfw:
NO NO NO NO.

LTE bands do NOT equal GSM. Not going to happen. They are physically different receivers for lack of a better phrase. There is no way to do this without physically changing hardware. Also, you realize T-Mobile's "1700" frequency does not actually mean 1700 on the dot. They use a different subset of actual radio bands than AT&T's 1700 LTE. As in 1721-1727 or some such vs 1781-1793 or something. I don't know the actual frequencies, but you get the drift.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] RavenII:
It is absolutely possible. No question about it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] id10terrordfw:
Then do it. For one, there is no compatible modem to flash. Two, it isn't possible.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Aus_Azn:
Hand is hitting my face so hard right now.

RavenII, if it's so possible, then why don't you do it? If you can't, give a large donation to one of our developers and tell them to do it.

I, and many others here are blatantly telling you it's not possible for clear reasons.

The Galaxy Nexus has a PENTABAND UMTS/HSPA "3G" radio. 850/900/1700/1900/2100. That's why it can access TMobile's 3G and faux-G. We here, on the HTC Holiday, have a tri-band 3G radio.

DIRECTLY from your sources at GSM ARENA and PHONESCOOP. I've added HTC.com for good measure:

2G Network	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network	HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

4G Network	LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100

GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

LTE 700 / 1700

WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100

LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz), and tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)

What? I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the fact that "3G network/WCDMA/HSPA+/UMTS" doesn't have 1700MHz. Oh wait, I couldn't hear you over the fact that TMobile's faux-G is not based on LTE, nor is it 4G (big hint: it's 3G HSPA-based service ;) ).

GSM Arena and Phonescoop also do not account for the of LTE bands supported by the Vivid. Each region of the Holiday pretty much only supports the LTE band in that region. Rogers and ATT only supports AWS700, Telstra only supports 1800, etc.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] id10terrordfw:
I'm glad I'm not the only one to retain my senses about this. Leave it to a fellow Saab fan to explain it correctly.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] RavenII:
Ok...I really didn't want to do this since I HATE spoon feeding people on forums...but here goes. And try to keep up because I'm only going to dumb it down so much.

What you guys are mistaking for "Bands"...really ARE NOT BANDS....there is NO SUCH THING as an LTE band...or HSPA+ band...

There are Network types ...LTE, HSPA+, -Insert other modulation/channeling scheme here-, etc.

There are Frequencies (which are actually specific ranges but for the sake of confusion, they're referred to as the following 700, 800, 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100...etc.) By the way...all those frequencies fall under the UHF band...

So far we've established that there are Network types...and different frequencies...are you still with me? Any questions?

Ok, onward.

There exists something called an SDR or Software Defined Rado...it has the ability to receive and transmit on certain frequencies...It's the software that defines how much of that frequency to use per channel (1Mhz, 25khz, etc.), what range of frequencies to use, how to use them, how much power to use while transmitting, among MANY other things (what frequency to send on, which to receive on, etc.)...That's how they came up with "Software defined radio"

If you look at the Product Brief for the MSM8X60/APQ8060 you should notice all of the frequencies that these specific chips support...

I really don't want to lose you guys, still following?

You might notice that the APQ8060 doesn't have a WWAN modem...but what does THAT mean? It means that it needs something like ohhhhh let's say the MDM9200...FINE! Here's one more spoon full

Reader to me: But RavenII...you're being a condescending ****, and we still don't know what the hell your point is...you're spewing all this **** like you're some know it all...

Me to Reader: There there grasshopper. I will get straight to it...

With all of the information I've given you...you should be able to see that when you see something like "LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz), and tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)"...it means the radio is...

Being told to use LTE Standards (modulation, channeling, frequency steps, etc.) on AWS/700 (which if they're using AWS to signify Band IV...it would in turn mean 1700/2100), HSPA+/UMTS Standards on 850/1900/2100MHz...etc.

Still reading?

When I say that it is %100 possible...I'm saying that with software or "flashing the radio"...you can effectively change/tell what the chip should do (in this case either an MSM or MDM) with the frequencies it's capable of transmitting/receiving on. That's it.

Aus_Azn: I really hope you didn't leave a hand print on your face...

Thank you, good night.

One last thought: I never said that I would do it, I said that it's possible...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] id10terrordfw:
Here's the real simple way to explain it: it is theoretically possible to do but no one outside of HTC has the skill or proprietary code to do it.

So for all intents and purposes, impossible. It will not now nor ever happen.

Also, while the chip may support all bands from the factory that initially fabricated the chip, it may be locked at a firmware level (not a software radio, but actual ROM on the physical chip) that a software based radio cannot affect. This is why you can't just flash a T-Mobile software radio on another AT&T s-off device and have it work. The physical chip itself DOES NOT SUPPORT THE FREQUENCY NEEDED due to changed firmware configuration.

Is that condescending enough for you?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] RavenII:
Let's see, how can I put this...You're still wrong. It's still possible.

I don't even own a Vivid so I'm no longer going to post to this thread...but I will tell you this...everyone once told me that blackberrys could not have data without having the BIS (Blackberry specific plan)...and guess what. I'M the reason that people are hacking them away. I was the first one to figure it out and prove everyone wrong. While I don't have a phone that I need to convert for T-Mobile, you can bet, that once there's a phone that I want to use on T-Mobile's network...I'll more than likely find a way.

Farewell.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] tyronelouie:
@totally off topic

RavenII I think you're going on the right track here. I'm already convinced by what your saying.

peaceout
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] sigsegv0x0B:
What RavenII is saying does have a good base logically because it has been done before for a very similar set of hardware to the raider. The ATT Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and the ATT Note LTE are both phones featuring very similar processor and modem as the Raider. The APQ8060 and MDM9200 (i think).

Samsung released devices with this modem running on all sorts of bands 1700, 850, 1900, 2100 and even LTE on 1700 and 700.

The ATT Versions of the devices do not feature UMTS in AWS range however people have simply flashed the modem from the T-Mobile version of the device which doesn't have LTE and the ATT LTE devices actually started working on UMTS AWS bands. Various modems give various degrees of success but it is possible and has been confirmed many many times over.

Here is the thread for the ATT Skyrocket. You will find people doing the same thing on ATT Galaxy Note LTE.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] motoxxx138:
You guys are funny, now I can't wait to get my Vivid which I just received today running on T-Mobiles "4g". The funny thing about this is when i very first started reading this thread and saw Mr. buknastys' reply, I was thinking "That is absolutely not true". Now I'm not going to go into detail or try and prove any points, as Raven has done a perfectly fine job proving his point and answering the OPs question. Bottom line; the two readers are absolutely wrong and Raven is absolutely right. Also one last thing, I love how suddenly a firmware "lock" is something of an obstacle, yet we have gained S-Off on nearly every HTC bootloader out there. Just sayin..
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] RavenII:
I really didn't mean to come off as a **** in this thread, but it seems as if though people have forgotten about actual hacking and everything has moved to "Supercharging" and theming...it's saddening, I come from a time where there was no such thing as impossible.

...I encourage you to try, but do so with a lot of caution...because the fact of the matter is...you can brick your device...

Happy hacking.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] hudsonmk:
THANK YOU!!!

I would just like to say thank you to Raven as I now have a AT&T Vivid and have successfully placed it on the T-mobile 3G network working 100% of the time. I will be putting together a full tutorial on how to do this shortly as it was indeed a challenge. I have been reading these forums for awhile and Raven your post has by far been one of the most beneficial and inspiring ones...thanks for sticking it out on these forums...few do these days. I actually just joined this forum after months of reading because of this post. I figure i too will provide feedback. I am actually a Tech Manager w/ Sprint. I work on these things everyday in other words....hints why I actually have a T-mobile phone lol. Not saying T-mobile is the best but you at least get exactly what you pay for and they are honest about coverage haha. Anyways..back on topic...the HTC Vivid is an interesting phone to root even and get the S-off. It is needed in order to get the sim unlocked. You have to do a combo of the rooting kit "Vivid_All_in_One_kit_v2.2" posted on another section and the "ControlBearRelease_holiday_ICS_WIN" (if your running Win 7). After you do what they call the "wire trick" (basically short the sim reader temporarily to allow temp access to flash) you can get the sim lock off. After that it is simple trial and error with modem flashes from various tmobile devices onto the HTC Vivid to get the 3G up and going. Mine actually kicked on with the AT&T radio flashed at first but I only had coverage in certain areas. Basicly it will depend alot on your local towers. Believe it or not...ALL CELL TOWERS ARE LEASED FROM VARIOUS COMPANIES LIKE SONY ERICSON WHICH MAINTAIN THEM ALL ALMOST!!...therefore it is very dependent on the towers in your area which radios are likely to work if not the stock modem on the device. It depends on what lease and roaming agreements are in place in your region....again...I WORK ON PHONES EVERYDAY FOR SPRINT...know a little about all that stuff...trust me...i have people yelling everyday about not having this or that when most of it is the carrier hasnt signed an agreement with Kyocera or whom ever to support that device or the lease contract has expired and will be resigned in a few days....bottom line is ....if the phone has a radio chipset that supports multibands and frequencies it is almost always possible to do what ever you would like with it. As far as firmware lock....too funny...those do not work on Android devices as the chipsets were intentionally designed to be unviersal to all carriers to cut manufacturing costs...much like in automotives where Mazdas and Fords use the same parts...just a reference. Anywho....It really is possible...it just takes research and a TON of time sometimes but that is the point of hacking....most would have said the Xbox Kinect wouldnt have been able to been hacked or the Wii remote seeing as both those use internal chips that range in the thousands if sold for other purposes. Long story short....happy hacking and Thanks to all of you for a great discussion forum.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
Has anybody tried to flash radio from Desire to Thunderbolt in order to get that ***** running on wcdma/gsm in London for example??? I'm new to IT with mechanical background so asking what makes sense to me... Also would ROM from Desire work on TB or am i talking about "jet engine on a bike"????

Please help i really need to have TB running in UK
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yareally:
If you want to carry around a large 4.3" paperweight, then feel free.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
Not much help it was :) ha ha

How high the risk of bricking, is it 100%???
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bpyazel:
Doubt a rom will boot, but won't brick it. You'll just end up having to reflash a compatible rom. Radio on the other hand... I wouldn't attempt.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donnyp1:
I know on my dinc i used evo radios, but the tbolt is a different animal
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
did it work fine, was it same type of broadband as the original???
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yareally:
I think you're forgetting those are 3g phones. If you flash a 3g only radio on the thunderbolt, it's not going to work out. Maybe the rezound would work because it has the same LTE chipset, but I'm skeptical and it's not something I'd really want to try.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donnyp1:
Im not forgetting, its why i said tbolt was a different animal
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
do you think should just try finding someone that wants a thunderbolt in exchange for another android that is supporting 3G????
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B3L13V3:
Second generation LTE chipset not the same, if you want to be a guinea pig for the rest of us go ahead...let us know what you find out.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yareally:
Sorry...neither phone has a "second generation" LTE chipset. They're both using the Qualcomm MDM9600 LTE chipset.

http://www.htc.com/us/products/rezound-verizon#tech-specs

http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon#tech-specs

Also happens to be the same one in the ipad3

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5661/the-new-ipad-4g-contains-qualcomms-mdm9600
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
How do i tell what generation mine belongs to??? Do you have and data i could match up with my phone to see what generation it is???
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yareally:
:confused:
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
Sorry just didn't see your post for some reason until now
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
Rezound seems to be working fine with GSM radios and UMTS too...

So what is that thats missing in thunderbolt for same functionality is it just soft or hard ware as well???
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haliwa04:
I honestly don't think its been officially tried. No kind of previous docs stating "oh noooo, bricked my phone" or "wont boot" nothing. Just angry mods saying "if that worked, they would've let you know by now"

Posted from my 1.34ghz, Infected, Themed Out, Lightningbolt.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svetlyak:
Yeah took us a few attempt's to go in to space, another few to land on moon....

if i'll go ahead and try it out would you guys suggest a phone that is related to thunder bolt the most(hardware/sofware wise)??? Is it Resound or is it DesireHD???
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charris:
i hate it that only a few ppl have the thunderbolt outside of the us or a zone without a CDMA company im from Romania and i did unlock the phone using the XTC - Clip but the radio...its messy i tried to change it to gsm and it just returns to the previous selected thing...i tried shutting down radio then selecting GSM and then turning it on ...it stayed GSM but no signal :(
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yareally:
Any of the GSM abilities outside of LTE in the chipset for the device would be locked by the radio firmware. Firmware is of course proprietary to Verizon and modding it is technically illegal I believe. That doesn't mean you can't go and try to flash something from another device, but I'm not going to be the one to try it. Only one worth trying is the rezound though. I'm not an expert on radios in embedded devices, but if the radio is isolated totally from the system, then I don't see why it would not work as the higher level RIL libraries on the Rezound are the same.

However, don't take my word for it and run and flash and blame me if it bricks of course :)
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Dexter isn't just a troll...........

He actually does stuff....................... :eek:

trololololololol........
[Off-topic] stamatis:
why not? i guess he enjoys the off topic while drinking his coffe(@dexter[he will understand]φραπεδακι?φραπεδακι?..γιατι οχι ε? χαχα :D;)) but it seems he really work hard!:)
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
A troll with dev powers...that's Unpossible :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Congrats Dexter xD :p
[Off-topic] boborone:
Mind = blown

- this sig is just so I don't have to write 10char when on my phone -
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
I knew that. :p
[Off-topic] watt9493:
Congrads dex.

Sent from my DROIDX
[Off-topic] boborone:
Creat?

- this sig is just so I don't have to write 10char when on my phone -
[Off-topic] boborone:
I'm used to it

- this sig is just so I don't have to write 10char when on my phone -
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
We'll let you off this time.... :p

Also, where the hell is Dexter??

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] boborone:
He posted about the portal in the banana thread. Said it was crazy having the attention. Don't think he's seen this

- this sig is just so I don't have to write 10char when on my phone -
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Wait. Dexter? Maybe there's a Dexter92 and a Dexter 93. That means I'm the only one in OT that doesn't do important stuff. Like mod, or do **** for the phone.
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Well, you and M_T_M.....

Trolololololol

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Well M_T_M has mod powers, and uses them to redirect threads which I can't do. lol
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
I'm both socked an appalled by this post :eek: :eek:

I demand a duel!! :cool: say high noon by the Orchid tree on Cherishtock Hill by the castle :cool:

Swords or pistols...your choice!!
[Off-topic] boborone:
shocked that you don't do anything or shocked someone noticed

hahahahahha:p:eek:
[Off-topic] boborone:
So who won the duel
[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
Trolls trolling trolls.... Geez where has this forum gone people.... no xda-app :( how to keep track of this battle...
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Quick someone develope a app that will let us watch they're dual!
[Off-topic] .xxx.:
Looks like the senior mods are in a race to troll people xD recently pg101 trolled the rcs that he will be retiring XD and wwe believed.. huge chaos in the forums hahahha.. looks like notatreo joined him for a while :eek:
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
The pink elephant won :eek::(

HOW DO YOU UNLOCK CAPS!!?? :eek:
[Off-topic] boborone:
The giant thing in the room nobody talks about? THE metaphorical reference? Why you let him beat you?