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[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
Have not gotten that far between charges. I use the phone too much.

This ROM (plus Lionfish) is at or near the top of my list, but I have come to believe the ROM can only do so much.

What I'm finding is most ROM/kernel combos already do pretty good when the screen is off. Like five days if you put it on a shelf and don't look at it. Assume good wifi, no wakelocks, gentle sync avtivity, etc.

But any Evo in continuous use by a live person will burn through one fully charged stock 1500mah battery in 5 hours no matter what ROM, configuration, optimization, tweak or trick you try. Bad cell signal, GPS usage, or Wimax obviously accelerate this, but in optimal conditions, 5 hours. You can improve it a little by keeping the screen very dim. *Maybe* a few extra minutes underclocking and undervolting. But basically five hours.

So battery life predictions for me are easy : if I'm not touching it, it loses ~1 percent an hour; if I am touching it, it loses ~20% an hour.

On a day where the cumulative "touch time" is two hours and it sits next to my WiFi access point for the other 22 hours, I might have 20-40% left. If the 22 idle hours are in my glove compartment where cell signal comes and goes, it will probably be beeping at me (<15%) by bedtime. Any GPS or 4G, dinner. If I use it interactively more than two hours, lunch.

For me it's "Touch it, it starts burning battery; Put it down, it stops."

Basically the line in the battery usage graph is composed of many segments that have either one slope (steep) or another (flat). The ROM/kernel combo doesn't change those slopes that much.

For me, anyway.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Hockeytown1970:
What is apps2sd and how do I ulitize it? Thanks for answering a noob question.
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Apps2SD moves all of your /data/apps and dalvik cache to your SD card. This allows you to utilize a potentially larger amount of storage space for your apps, rather than using internal storage. Also, so long as SD-EXT is not wiped, user apps will move from ROM to ROM (not an issue with going version to version on AlterROM, now that it's on an incremental upgrade setup). Apps2SD/Dalvik2SD are both baked into the ROM.

To utilize them:

1) Backup SD Card

2) Partition SD from recovery, adding an Ext2 Partition

3) Upgrade ext2 to ext3

4) Factory Reset wipe

5) Flash AlterROM

Everything else is taken care of, automagically. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Ok i did what u said and now for some reason my 3g and signal bars dissapear and then come back
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Reboot and let me know if it continues.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Ok ill do that and ill report back thanks for your much appreciated help:thumbup:
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
So far so good thank u very muck for your help im sticking with this one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Hockeytown1970:
How do I remove the clock from my status bar?
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
There is currently no easy way for users to do this in AlterROM. I manually modified my SystemUI.apk using apktool to achieve this. I plan on eventually having an app to do these small edits on the fly, as found in Classic and others, but I've not had a chance to look into it very much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jrny99:
fine job with the update grayn0de, 4g works and stocks are up !
[EVO 4G Android Development] biga1:
I'm back

Mr. Gray, outstanding work on your rom. AlterROM has become my new favorite again...
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
heh- I just found a ROM that can burn up a battery in two hours if you turn on Wimax: CM7.2RC3 . Download speeds are insane and it never drops 4G, but it physically gets hot in your hand. Avoid.

AlterROM is still the best - somebody try to beat grayn0de's record of 15% after 1d19h. Pics or it didn't happen ; )
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
It's not too hard to do. Now that I have my phone configured the way I like it (see a few posts back), I'm not constantly messing with it like I used to with daily flashing/reconfiguration. I'm averaging close to 30 hours per charge now with normal active (not heavy) usage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Were r the default alterom performance tweaks I can't seem to find them
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Performance tweaks that are easily accessible (editable) are located:

- init.d scripts

- build.prop

There is also a shell script that runs in the installer that tweaks quite a few sysctl values. It can be found in the update.zip (opt/scripts/tweak performance). All in all, the tweaks are a modified concoction of V6 Supercharger and Smurf Tweaks that I compiled based on optimal results and compatibility found in my testing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] volk9029:
Look in init.d for starters.

Sent from my lair.
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Email notifications, FTW! ;) :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
im sorry but how do i get to those settings
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Root explorer or file manager and a text editor: /system/etc/init.d/
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
i whent to es file explorer selected alterom then system etc then init.d and and i select tweaks and it says i cant open
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
You need a text editor app to open it and make any changes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
can u recomend one:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Text Edit (Paul Mach) is good and simple. I use the one built into Root Browser in ROM Toolbox, though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
to touch the actual /etc/init.d files you just need to mount the system partition r/w to make any changes. es file explorer already has a built in text editor.

the necessary setting in is in es file explorer's settings menu

you want to go into /

click on the star "favorites" and choose /

EDIT- man you guys are fast, email notifications or not
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
hey how do u get email notifications
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Subscribe to the thread and select instant email notifications. It only works if you are actively on the site doing things, though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
quick question why is it that if i reboot is says app swype forclose i didnt even install swype. and also did this rom come with a clock cuz it doesnt have one on home screen.

also can someone explain car o dope tweeks and can i use with this rom and how. i already did ##3282# thing and changed to 0 and 0.0.0.0 i didnt see any increase in 3g speed.also qhy is almost every app verifying superuser ex esfile manager juice defender.
[EVO 4G Android Development] biga1:
Swype, clock & superuser are options in Aroma Installer. Sounds like something happened during the Install. Hope you figure it out. :o
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
Yeah sounds like you got a lot goin' on there.

Just to remind, you don't need smurf, car-o-dope, juwe, or v6 on this ROM since the most effective and stable of those tweaks have already been baked into the ROM. Re applying any of those might just cause conflicts and/or hurt performance.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
if i flashed 3g speed tweaks should i undo it im just gonna undo it and leave it alone thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
I have no direct experience with that one.

The basic method is:

-Measure before you start

-Change only one thing at a time

-Measure after the change

Was 3G slow before? If not, don't tweak.

Was it faster after? If not, don't tweak.

And of course, even if it's technically faster, if it causes negative side effects, you have to decide if you can live with the trade-off. If not, don't tweak.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Am I missing something I'm using smelkus recovery did super wipe wiped all except SD and reflashed Rom and when it loaded all my apps that I had before loaded up again so it didn't delete the apps I had any suggestions
[EVO 4G Android Development] biga1:
mmmm........have not tried smelkus recovery yet. still using good old Amon RA and wipe 3 times except SD. Never had good luck with Super Wipes. Let the install settle before you start tweaking. I always wipe cache and dalvik before I install additional tweaks. Take your time. This is an awesome rom and well worth it...
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Ok so now i tried to reflash rom and for some reason it stays on htc evo 4g white screen it doesnt boot up so i had did a nandroid of stock rom tried to flash that and same thing doesnt boot up. Now i have to unroot then root again. Every time i do a nandroid same thing happens
[EVO 4G Android Development] volk9029:
What is your wiping process, step by step?

Sent from my lair.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Wipe data cache and delvick cache 3 times each
[EVO 4G Android Development] biga1:
try wiping 3 times each starting with

data/factory

cache

dalvik

data

sdcard: android secure

boot

system

DO NOT WIPE SDCARD

sdext

flash rom

reboot.

that always works for me...
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Ok so every sungle one except sd card.sdext wipe or not. What about when i do a nandroid back up what do i check
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
Everything. If you always wipe caches before restoring then you can skip cache. I do.

There are a couple others you can skip in certain common situations, but right now it sounds like you need all the backup you can get.
[EVO 4G Android Development] biga1:
yes wipe sdext 3 times also. I check everything for nandroid back up and I also do the same full wipe process before I nandroid restore. The goal is to have a clean slate on your phone to avoid FC's and general phone wackiness. you can do it!!!:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Ok i think thats were i was going wrong when i did backup i only checked the ones by default and wimax. To restore i wouldnt wipe any just restore got it know ima root my phone again and try it
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
Now you're getting the idea. Good luck.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
why does this not have a clock on homescreen
[EVO 4G Android Development] biga1:
Gray removed sense UI. download from the market clock widget. I use HD Widgets. Fancy widgets is good also. Go launcher has a bunch of widgets also
[EVO 4G Android Development] SASQUATCH:
Is a sence 4.0 clock i had one but i erased it by accident
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
Bump. Excellent ROM. Everyone flash.

I believe there is an update coming that takes away odex option in AROMA (and includes Stocks app fix etc)?
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Correct. Should be complete by the end of the week. There will be a way to re-odex, as well, but not through AROMA. This will decrease complexity (for me) and increase modification compatibility.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PookiePrancer:
Looking forward to it. This Rom is so smooth...and everything works!
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Developer Status Update

All: The 1.0.1 release, which was slated for the end of this week, is going to have to be pushed back a little bit. I've run into some major system failures on my main dev rig which resulted in system corruption and require a total rebuild. Not sure exactly how long it will take me to get things back to where I had them, but I'm pretty optimistic. I'll update when I have a more definitive timeframe.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Hockeytown1970:
After trying other Roms, I always come back to this or 4kornerz. Keep up the good work. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Update: My machine is back up and in top condition. Development is back on track, full speed. Original 1.0.1 update release ETA holds. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Derekao:
Battery percent indicator

I have gone through this entire thread I have seen mulitple conversations about battery indicators but I have not seen any links to fixes or apk. Any suggestion?
[EVO 4G Android Development] PookiePrancer:
Wondering about World Clock: aren't you supposed to be able to add other cities? Mine doesn't, when I try the world tab.
[EVO 4G Android Development] volk9029:
What is it you are looking for ? All battery choices come up during aroma install.

Sent from my lair.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Derekao:
I apologize I am looking for a battery percent icon (Widget) or what to see how much charge is left on my phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
The installer has essentially 4 options for System UI (statusbar, etc). These are a combination of Standard or Extended QS mods both with and without the battery bar mod. If you chose the battery bar (line indicator on the bottom of status bar), you will need to enable it through the battery bar settings app in your app drawer. If not, you should have the 1% increment battery icon in the status bar.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Derekao:
I hate to keep asking dumb questions... But is there a way to get the battery indicator up next to the 3G and signal streghth?
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
See my last post for an explaination. You need to be using one of the SystemUIs (Stadard or Extended) without the battery bar mod. This is an option in the installer, when you flash the ROM. Selecting the battery bar will hide the default/stock battery icon that you are looking for.

Do you have a "Battery Bar Settings" app in your app drawer, by chance?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Derekao:
Yes I have the battery bar setting in app drawer.

Show battery bar...Checked

Height....1

Animate....Checked

Automatically color...Checked
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Do you see a white (default color) line in your statusbar, underneath the icons? This is the battery bar percentage indicator (a la MIUI, etc). Try making the height larger, 2 or 3 is often better for visibility, and see if you see it then. Try changing the color, as well.

If you want the 1% battery icon, I can make an update to give you that, if you prefer it over the battery bar. This way you do not have to reflash the ROM altogether. Just let me know if you want Standard or Extended Quick Settings.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Derekao:
What is the difference between Standard & Extended quick setting?

That would be great if you could make a 1% battery icon.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] volk9029:
There's 1 % battery icon. Go back to aroma installer. Choose update, when you get to battery choices don't choose miui , on quick setting choose extended. Finish aroma installer,dont do anything else. Reboot the phone. You will get battery with %

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[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Actually, Upgrade shouldn't work. It should say that you're current and there is nothing to upgrade. I pulled the ability to swap SystemUI's from Redux for stability. I might put it back in some time in the future, though.

Standard is the original Quick Settings mod made by ca1ne, while Extended is the quick settings mod made by tommytomatoe (I believe it is what is in the Legacy Classic). I'll try to post some screenshots and more info after I get this 1.0.1 update released. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] volk9029:
The only way is to reflash then.

Edit. Looking forward to AlterRom on LTE.

Sent from my lair.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Derekao:
Thanks

Just wanted to says thanks for all the help. Everything working great.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EPotter:
Strong Work!!

Disclaimer: I have not read all 600+ posts in this thread so for those who get upset over these things I apologize if anything I bring up has already been covered.

I would first like to say that this ROM is awesome. I don't post very much on here as you can see (but I do reference and read XDA fairly regularly), but I felt compelled to say thanks for a great ROM. I have tried out many many ROMs for my HTC EVO 4G and this has by far been the best for me. Looks great, functions great, and is very stable. I am coming from Cyogenmod 7 ... and as much as I like that is is packed with options to customize it the way you want ... it just was too unstable for me with several phone resets per day, too many apps not working right/force close, and it just ate up my (extended) battery like crazy. So far everything in AlterROM Redux has worked flawlessly ... I can go all day (on an average moderate use day) without having to recharge and I have not had a single phone reset. AlterROM Redux has made me very happy and continues to make my Evo a pleasure to use again!! Thanks much!!

With that being said there are a few things I would like to mention.

Notification Drop Down: I have to agree with some of the others. It is difficult to read with the transparency. I don't know the technical difficulties involved with making changes to such things so I don't know how doable this is ... but for me either the background needs to not be transparent at all or the background needs to be something like the app drawer where the background is transparent with just the wallpaper without any icons behind it. I looked around the threads and did a search and it doesn't look like there is a way to change the transparency at all as an option?

Options: Again I don't know the difficulties. But I read in another post that you can make an "update" file that can be flashed to change an option (in the case that I read it was an update file to change the battery icon from the MIUI to the battery percent icon). It would be nice if the options that are presented at the time the ROM is flashed were available as "updates" so that you do not need to re-due all your icons and phone setup and what not. I would definitely like to play with some of the options but don't want to do all the setup stuff again. [If this update idea is possible I have an idea of how to handle the version numbering if it will help.]

Thanks again for a great ROM. I love my Evo again!! Any chance you might work on an AlterROM for the HTC View (still looking on how to root my updated View though) or other any other devices? Although I really like HTC devices if your ROM was available for another particular device (such as Samsung or something) I would definitely consider purchasing that device over an HTC.

Thanks again!!

- Ed Potter

Thank you to all the developers and members of XDA for all the hard work and help!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] volk9029:
Wow, the first post in years. Anyway, if you flash any battery zip from this post by mjhuffer, your dropdown will not have transparency anymore. Just wipe cache and dalvik cache before

flashing.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22109089&postcount=76
[EVO 4G Android Development] EPotter:
EPST

RE: - Remove the Sprint proxy settings through EPST (post #587)

I don't know if anyone else has tried these or not, but my results were not good (at least not for me as I use 4G).

4G was slower

3G was faster (as advertised)

And I had a couple phone resets (not sure if this was a result of changing the settings or if it had something to do with the speedtest.net app ... but since changing the settings back I have not had any phone resets).
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
I'm very glad you like the ROM. :) As far as quick little mods like changing transparency and such go, I'm working on options for this using NinjaMorph (as I have not looked into creating a tweaks app as in other ROMs, yet). I'll begin posting some, as well as instructions, after version 1.0.1 release (tomorrow ;)).

I do not have an Evo View, but as of today I now have an Evo 4G LTE and will kick development of AlterROM ELiTE into full gear soon. I may, in the future, expand to other devices that I don't own, but that will be a much more difficult since I would not be able to personally test any releases.

Unfortunately, that is one of those YMMV things. I noticed the same thing sometimes, but not others. I believe there is a post in this thread on some 4G fixes that someone wanted implemented into the ROM to increase 4G speed and stability. You might see if you can find that post and see if both mods will play nice with each other.
[EVO 4G Android Development] amgarlin:
The battery indicator threw me off a bit as well. When you set it to visible it appears as a very thin line between the status bar and the home screen.
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
Version 1.0.1 Released

AlterROM Redux v1.0.1 has been released!

Please check the first 3 posts of this thread for details. Changelog in AROMA installer.

THINGS TO NOTE

Odex has been completely pulled from default support and is no longer an option in AROMA. If you are currently running 1.0.0 odex, you will have to perform a clean install. I am sorry for the inconvenience here, but odex as I had it was causing a number of performance/stability issues. You do not have to perform any pre-wipes. The installer will not wipe sd-ext, so if you are partitioned for apps2sd, you should retain your apps. Always be sure to have a backup of anything you care about, though.

After flashing (Install or Upgrade), you will have a couple new folders in the AlterROM folder on your sdcard. 'morph' is a placeholder for future NinjaMorph mods. 'scripts' contains AlterScript, which is detailed in post #3.

AlterScript odex option will not always work on the device. Use

adb shell sh /sdcard/AlterROM/scripts/AlterScript

NinjaMorph mods and updates to AlterScript will be posted in posts #2 & #3. These are a W.I.P.

The Future of AlterROM Redux

I just want everyone to be aware of the fact that I am transitioning from the OG Evo to the new Evo 4G LTE and will not have my OG for too much longer. I feel this ROM has reached a level of maturity that does not require me to make major changes to the system, so all that is left is maintenance and little tweaks here and there which can easily be done without needing the device in hand. I will continue to work on AlterROM Redux, but the changes will likely not be major ones. If there are any major changes to the system that require heavy beta testing, I'll call for more testers, but likely things will continue on as they do now.​
[EVO 4G Android Development] PookiePrancer:
I don't know why, but a couple of bugs still persist:

1. Media volume slider in extended settings does nothing.

2. Can't add new cities to World Clock

Just minor annoyances, to be sure, but is anyone else seeing the same?
[EVO 4G Android Development] MBQ_:
Bump
[EVO 4G Android Development] grayn0de:
1. I tried before to replicate thus, without success. You are running 1.0.1 deodex? Have you tried wiping your cache and dalvik (just a thought).

2. I'll look into this one. Can anyone else confirm, in the mean time?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpisini:
Did a fresh install I do not have an alterrom folder. I have always had one in the past.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tvaughn:
I can vouch for not being able to add cities in World Clock.

Edit: Sorry just realized I was on v1.0.0.
[EVO 4G Android Development] biga1:
%

I can add cities in World clock fine. In extended quick settings, media volume default is always to the left
[EVO 4G Android Development] PookiePrancer:
Yup, 1.0.1 doing the same as the last version. It's no biggie; I'm just AR, and don't like little bugs :) May be something peculiar to my Evo. I just reinstalled with normal Quick Settings, and left World Clock off...problems solved! ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
Just got back from vacation. Prior to leaving I nandroided back to this ROM.

Flashing fun and flashy and novel and quirky and idiosyncratic ROMs is neat, but there are times when you need your phone to Just Work.

I had no issues.

(I will say no ROM for the original Evo 4G ever did have a camera that was especially fast, whether it be Sense 1, 2, 3, AOSP, MIUI or otherwise. But the one on this ROM works well enough.)

Now that the first Evo buyers are off contract and several worthy successor phones are drawing away developers, we may be going from the red giant to white dwarf phase of the Evo ROM development cycle: This doesn't bother me a bit. ROMs like this that incorporate all the accumulated knowledge of the last two years make it possible to keep the phone and use it happily for a very long time to come.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mxl180:
nevermind delete