yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheManii:
The majority of the rom is platform agnostic, as long as it reasonably resembles an arm based android style device.

The drivers are mostly isolated into their respective binary files, it's just that since they're modifying the android source itself their interfaces could deviate from the stock one.

Gluing together a generic rom from a similar setup with the matching drivers isnt particularly difficult, it's fixing the rough edges to get a reasonably useful rom that is.

Even most of the frameworks could be bit identical as they might be identical. Only when you start deeply integrating stuff like an OEM skin does it start to differ (froyo and GB era touchwiz comes to mind)

If I were to pull numbers out of my ass, i'd say:

Doing a basic copy and paste port of CM/MIUI/AOSP/etc: days of work

Porting a rom to work with binary-only drivers (and getting something worth using): weeks of work

Porting a rom from scratch: months of work depending on available drivers

Recreating basic drivers: months of work

Porting device specific drivers: months more on top of the basic ones

Creating a 3rd party bootloader: feat of strength

Porting an entirely new os: not very diffucult assuming drivers are documented well and a 3rd party bootloader

It depends on the devs available though, it's not the amount of devs available, it's the amount willing and able to create drivers for a device.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nostard19:
Hmm, lots of things I didn't knew about porting.. well its realy an awesme job all rom devs are doing...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Apparently xboarder bricked his phone and Samsung wont exchange it therefore he cant develop anymore for the skyrocket but he is open sourcing from where he last left off. Since its being open sourced somebody should look into making a t989 build. It has gsm working I think.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ikarma:
Man I thought these were hard to brick... sucks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] chlehqls:
Well, when you're trying to develop ICS from source without barely anything, anything can happen I suppose.

Sucks that ICS development has taken a bit of a halt. I heard he made good strides too.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zander145:
Dang. I really had high hopes for him.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Mrcojocaru:
that blows. I hope someone will be brave enough to try it since he bricked his
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xtop:
hah, right. total bs. and this kids, is why you don't donate until AFTER somebody has created a rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] s10shane:
well its not bricked according to him. the cpu is dead thats what he said since he checked it somehow. then samsung wont replace it? doesnt that seem kind of odd that they wont replace his galaxy s2? i dont see how they cant replace it, if it took a ****.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Sammydr10:
Lol...

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] billydroid:
Someone, told that there is an officially supported jtag available now. His response "cpu is dead".

I smell bull****.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
I like howxda has been going down hill because people assume the worst in others. He's making something from scratch and you expectit to be perfect. bricking your phone more than once seems kind of expected when you are working by yourself and testing experimental builds in your own phone. I believe he never purchased a new phone so maybe that is why Samsung is not replacing it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] s10shane:
yep thats what i just read over on the other website. i still think its odd samsung wont replace his phone since its not that old of a phone. plus how do u know its a dead cpu when the phone is bricked?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sarni84:
Well dude something fishy is going on because we have year warranty on our phones out the box and samsung doesnt know he mods his phone all he has to say to tmobile is his phone wont turn on.....trust they will give him a new one.. So idk whats up but our variant i dont think will ever see ics
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] HigherSensation:
To be honest im gonna get bashed for this but ill state some things i've notice..I've been following xboarders work since the sensation which he was accused of kanging from the CM team and threw a ***** fit hence the "they dont like me"you guys must of heard from xboarder himself.So he left the sensation community and his rom to kristofpetho i believe or was it melvin,cant remember its been awhile.Then he received a donated amaze 4g and soon enough he was working on asop ics which was never finished..Then lef tthe amaze to work on a donated skyrocket with the same tactics luring ppl to think he's building a asop ics rom..so far nuttin's been finished but a ported sense 3.5 rom for the amaze i think he kanged RC team..I say this because i seen a post NRGZ28 said about it and xboarder quickly replied pm me and that was the end of discussion..The sense 3.5 can be arguable however cause its just speculations of a post i have no real facts if its kanged..I understand he's just a kid and he's working,testing on his own but the facts is there just browse like i said i've been following him since we've had the same phones..I know im not a dev and havent put out anything but im learning and im thankful for the righteous devs that we do have.Just sucks ppl donated to him..This isnt a i hate xboarder post i have nuttin against him i just dont like shady ppl..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] eunkipark92:
Tell him to mal
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] eunkipark92:
Tell him to make a video on his phone charging/ trying to turn it on. And check if battery is it in or i call this bull ****.

Well i mean...saying he bricked hes phone / selling the phone. Or getting another donation of 500dollar phone is a quick cash.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Melon_Bread:
As much as I want proof as the next guy.

I doubt he would ever do that....

Oh well I have an upgrade in December :p
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Beefvvl:
He doesn't have a Hercules. He has a Skyrocket.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Jjday7:
I'm guessing there will be a donation thread to come very soon. Call it a hunch but I have a feeling that it's coming.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Exodian:
You will definitely see ics. Maybe not until its an official release, but it will come.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] billydroid:
He sent back before. He is saying they won't do it again. He says the jtag won't work cause his cpu is dead.

I think the kid hit a wall and doesn't want to admit defeat. Considering, how he was treating the other guys trying to work on ics.

He said he was going to release a 4th preview in a day. That was a week and a half ago. So.. I think it's too hard for him.

Without drivers cyanogen and slayher haven't got an alpha build. So this kid was full of cap from the start.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] chubb16:
The kid is full of **** and just collecting donations from you stupid people that give it to him. He is not a developer never was. Its all a scam...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sarni84:
point? my point was whether t-mobile, ****-mobile, or tit-mobile....samsung will give u a warranty replacement if there is no physical damage (that is what insurance is for) which X stated his cpu died. lol weird idk why he wont call at&t and get a replacement. and them jtag people are amazing if anyhing he has a brick and they of all people would be able to fix it with their software. idk man how do u know or check to see if your cpu is dead lol:confused::p
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
it is possable to fry the cpu especally when working with the kernel and u get the voltages wrong..

Just saying I normally take people at there word they said they fried it so be it.

IF you cant trust a mans word what good are they?

Im not bashing just makeing a comment..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
This point is sound if you exchange the device once the warentee though the carrier is considred fuffiled.

He can try samsung.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sarni84:
yea i here ya... well hopefully everything gets worked out man this device is effin epic dude and it is ashame that we dont have miui or a stable cm7 rom :o one can wish tho. maybe soon:rolleyes:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
You guys are so quick to judge. Then raver gets in here and you guys change your mind when he defends him this community just lives off gossip. I'm defending him because of how he was treated here, and you guys now c call him a scammer anda fake. You guys just mad because you didn't what you wanted. He did come thru and made a valiant attempt to do something no other dev would touch. Just because he failed doesn't make him any less of a person. He even went ahead and shared his sources. So what are you complaining about? He bricked two phones to give us a preview of what can be possible if you take those risks. my advice, stop feeding the trolls and promote the work and maybe he or other deva will be motivated to work on our devices.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] billydroid:
He sent it to Samsung the first time. HTC sent me 3 mytouch 4Gs.

So idk? Im just stating my opinion based on his behavior and attitude, which are ****ty.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DesignGrits:
Couldn't use a jig to get it to download mode? Thats crazy, bummer
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] starskyrob:
OH LOOK ANOTHER XBOARDER THREAD.

The bottom line:

We'll see more ICS development when we have sources.

Coming from the epic 4g this is what happened:

CM6 was started. Never completed because 2.3 was on its way.

2.3 was released officially with sources.

CM7 was completed very shortly afterwards.

[they had source now. yay]

Point:

Why develop you own drivers when if you wait a couple months you'll have them readily available. Can we shut up about ICS for a couple weeks, enjoy our devices, and when ICS is available be happy?

No.

if you want ICS, develop it. if not, wait and stfu.

$0.02

Also, if you'd like to donate a phone to me so i can half develop a rom and then leave xda and fry my phone? I'd really appreciate it. Also, I need money for a new router and tacos. Please hit the donate button. I'll put a hall of fame for you and release sense 7.5 with jellybean and free data foreverz.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] novanosis85:
The development section is that way-------> :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
honeslty i have never talked to xboarder or even kept up on his work. Othe then the one time about the bubby phone. But anyways I dont know him i dont speak for him im just looking though the threads of a phone that im going to be makeing firmwares for and wow just so many people seem to be quick to judge quick to say how x is better then y?

At the end of the day its just a phone its just a firmware..

Some people like stock some like ics some like cm some like miui.

IF he tried and fried his device so be it at least he tried..

If people wanna try it themselves ill give u directions and github repo :P u are more then welcome to try ur hand at this craft :P Trust us its not as easy as it looks.

point is this He fried it

Did he really or didnt he who knows?

Im not going to judge not my place.

JUst dont understand the need of this thread.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
the point of.the thread is that its currently open source and in its current form has basic UI, wifi,sd card and possibly gsm. It could be used as a base since it also boots. It is also AOSP so its never meant to be a replacement for touchwiz ICS. Even after Touchwiz ICS is released people are going to be interested in AOSP ICS. He released the libbinder for gsm to work in mediafire under ?xmwcdiyrq4ld3fe

if it was easy it would have been done months ago and the graphics in the second build would be working smoothly.

I dont understand how anyone could think his deving is a scam since it still is the farthest along ICS build. The only other build doesnt really have graphics working smoothly nor wifi.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
weird comment coming from bubbys don.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] s10shane:
i cant say if he fried his cpu or not, but i have a very hard time believing samsung or at&t wont replace his phone when its got a 1 year warranty on it from samsung then insurance from at&t on top of that. his work looks good im definitely not knocking that at all since i have no skill in building roms lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
he doesnt have anything more than samsung warranty because he is actually on Tmobile because if you remember he needed to unlock it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] s10shane:
but if the device has a 1 year warranty wouldn't samsung replace it even if he already got it replaced once before? i mean how do they know he messed it up and it wasnt a faulty device lol

well i think he did fry it because he said this is how he knows he did..

"I will give a error code when plugged in and its a snapdragon code I googled and checked it has happened to samsungs and a few htcs with snapdragon processers"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
Your all assuming he is on day one of his year warranty for a used device. who knows the reason but if Samsung said no it must be a big reason. Or they could tell and have flagged it. Doesn't matter what anyone says because it's all an assumption and in no way fact based which you all are making it seem like it is.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
you must be new to xda. It is xda MO to treat assumptions axiomatically and make statements based on this
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
Not new. Been using it since 2010 but didn't create an account till now. Another assumption. Lol. XDa has gotten worse since two years ago as far as smart ass remarks and user bashing goes . Don't forget the trolls. :-)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Exodian:
Not necessarily. They may want proof of purchase and some crap like that. Plus I have had warranty issues with things before where they exchange a device through warranty and the exchange device only carries a 30 day warranty, not the balance of the one year original warranty.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeypaws:
That's what my point was earlier.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sarni84:
Who is calling him a scammer? I have always defended the kid buddy. and raver is right nobody knows what happened. Nobody but X. Trying to look at the big pic man idk i do know one thing tho samsung will replace the phone so i guess we see what happens. And people are aloud to be on edge a lot of effed up **** has went down in this forum in the past six months not saying X Would do anything like that but something fishy is goin on my dude. Hop off the pipe for a sec . ICS ZOMG! ....and look at the big pic n think about what has happened with all this donate stuff ...and what effs me up even more anout this whole donate thing is melvin. I know this is unrelated but i was in his rom thread and i remember back a few mnths ago with beastmod 4.0 and etc. seeing him say that he got no sleep him and his girlfriend fighting and that his rom boots in 15 secs. Lol anyways was checking his NEW rom out and he has all the same **** he said in the new roms op i was like what the hell whT did he copy n paste everything he said from previous beastmods to his new rom? I thought this was a new rom with different tweaks n ****. He said the same exact thing he didnt get no sleep for a day him and his girl fighting and his rom boot in 15 sec lol only thing that was different was the oc uv directions. Does he thing people wont remember this type of stuff idk man all i kept thinking from then on was copy paste copy paste copy copy copy paste. I switched back to a jugs backup anyway
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
for emphasis

AOSP ICS =\= Touchwiz ICS
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] starskyrob:
Quite frankly the massive amount of donation requests posted by the kid were annoying and ridiculous.

The kid might have some talent. That's awesome. The doesn't mean you get a community to buy you a phone, and then leave said community. It just seems a bit scamish. Getting something to boot is one thing. YAY SURFACE FLINGER STARTED. Getting something to function is another. His work 90% of the time was half finished. I understand that. It takes time to get things working. But then leaving the community which bought a phone for you with your work haphazardly posted? Flat out crappy.

PS Still accepting donations for my Chun-Li flashdrive with LED eyes. This will enable me to get WiFi working on my iOS port to the G1, and my ICS port to the Nokia 3390!

HALL OF FAME DONATORS!

Charles Manson! - $666

Steve Jobs - Lawsuit

Willy Gates - $5

Nyan Cat - $425

all my work will now be found at lemonparty[dot]org

thanks for the donations.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Towle:
Now no more donation threads for every soul that says they will do something.. Hasn't happened yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
I know you might be trying to rewrite history but he didnt leave but rather got pushed out by mods in an ego battle.

but rather than talk thrash based on faulty assumptions or flat out distortions of reality can we.get back on topic that there is a possible base to be to get an AOSP build going.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] starskyrob:
As stated numerous times, the "base" available lacks proprietary drivers which we wont see until Samsung releases source for ICS. Even Xboarder said this himself. He was going to "write" the drivers himself [machine code brah]. So to answer your question: Is it possible to use this and make a working build? Yes. Efficient? No. Not when a driver release is most likely a few months away.

Once again nothing I've stated above is news.

Furthermore, KONY 2012.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] CincoDeDrinko:
Everybody seems really foolish on this whole topic so I'll do your thinking for you.....

1)Q1 deadline for when Samsung said they would get us ICS is still 3 weeks away!! so anyone who knows anything about Android updates on any carrier or device means that they will make an official statement in the first week of April stating that it will be "soon" or give a semi-specific date.

2)My friend has a Galaxy Nexus, it only has 2-3 differences I can see when using it, and they are not worth getting exited for.

3)Anyone that thought a non-expert developer was going to get ICS working before Samsung or CyanogenMod did is an idiot.

4)T989 won't have ICS in legit or ported form for at least 3+ weeks so STFU and stop wasting everyones time with blowing up sections about "this developer is a shady scammer" or "why don't we have/ when are we going to get ICS". It really isn't a big deal, ask anyone with ICS!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Only Touchwiz ICS is coming in the next few months but maybe this time folks wil get it

AOSP ICS =\=CM9

hopefully some people know how.to use the transitive property
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] starskyrob:
Let me break it down one more time.

Our hardware has PROPRIETARY DRIVERS, which are needed to make the HARDWARE WORK... ON ANY ICS ROM [AOSP, TW, SENSE, BLUR]. When sammy releases source, we will then be able to USE THEM FOR AOSP.

SO after TW ICS is open sourced, we should be able to work on AOSP projects.

:] don't get all twisted up cause i said i was annoyed by someone either. stated what i was annoyed about, poked some fun and made a few jokes. laugh a little. it's the best part of life.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Charlie Brown:
Wow .... Peeking in at threads like these reminds me how much xda has changed over the years. Lies, gossip ... people threatening each other....people crying and *****ing ... non stop insults slung at one another. Anyway. So much for my old school rant. Sorry to be off topic (that's sarcasm btw).

Sent from ... a Galaxy far far away ...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] G1ForFun:
This is coming from the guy who has a bounty thread now, started by a family member of yours. :/

So yeah, of course you are going to defend xboarder actions with the whole benefit of the doubt crap.

When xboarder had a HTC Vision/G2 it was the same thing... Flame wars, incomplete roms and releases never worth touching. He is just a young kid, he is learning and I commend his efforts, but he needs to stay off public forums until he matures a lot more.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] funeralthirst:
except samsung will never release the driver source...ever. so no, them releasing ics (and subsequent source) does nothing for aosp. otherwise we'd have aosp gb roms since samsung's t989 gb source is out (and has been for a while since they have like 90 days after release of the software to release the source).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] starskyrob:
Hmm cm7 alpha? Thanks.

We don't necessarily need driver source, just ics compatible drivers, released when ics is..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RaverX3X:
first off master n slave isnt my family member.. second off the only time i ever talked to xboarder was in 1 thread when that whole bubby thing happened that was it. I wasnt defending him i was just stating a fact its possable he did fry his cpu. Next time please get your facts straight before you presume to speak for me thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] funeralthirst:
one cm7 alpha that hasn't been updated since november? really? lol...

samsung's ics drivers will not work with aosp out of the box (unless samsung has changed how they do things since the sgs, which i'm doubting). again, if that were all, we'd have a bunch of aosp-based roms.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] crookshanks:
Other than a call audio bug that requires you to turn gps on when you reboot, the CM7 "alpha" works just fine. I don't know why you feel like it needs updating if it works.

I don't really know how the whole "ego battle" happened so it's probably none of my business... But if you have a community donated device it seems to me like maybe you should mind your manners and play by the rules. If you don't like it maybe you shouldn't take a $600 device someone else paid for just to leave that community. You're 16, you got a great device for free and all you had to do was follow a few simple rules. Seems simple enough to me. If people that donated feel a little scammed I understand why.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Racing19969:
No it is not. The new replacement phone will carry a 1 year warranty. I know this because I have another one on the way. That was the first thing I asked.

As for the phone in question, very possible to fry the CPU like raver said... Not sure how he is testing it if bricked though?

And my 2 cents on the donating issue...

I have been a doubter on this for a while now...

All it seems to do is cause bickering in the forums.

If you can't get your own device to work with then don't dev for it. Simple as that.

I had a SGS4G and was starting to do some themeing and such in that forum... I bricked it while working on an MIUI port!!

I will probably send it in and have it jtagged so I can work with it again...

Now I have a SGSII-

Screwed it up with the CM7-kang. Waiting for replacement- scheduled for delivery this Thursday...

My Point:

You don't see me whining and crying because my devices were ruined while developing for these forums!

You don't see me asking other people to Donate so I can get a device!

These are the things that you run the risk of when doing this kind of work.

If you don't want it to happen and can't afford to repair or replace your device if you do screw it up then just DON'T DO IT!!!!