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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Exactly.. The kernel can be used for AOSP and cm9 and Sammy roms too with slight mods. Also for android 5.0+

Since it will be open source it can be used with and for anything and devs can tweak and mod it for their projects.

Xplodwild will be helping maui for cm9 on note too...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeromepearce:
Me too. Gotta claw back some of those $$$'s I pay the damned taxman every quarter! :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] newg:
Wondering what kind of return popads.net would need in order to make the investment worthwhile.

I'm wondering how many impressions they'll generate from sponsoring a kernel.

I suppose they ARE reaching an audience of tech-savvy users with this, but I'd be really interested to know how many impression they generate from this marketing strategy.

It could end up with a very low cost per impression the more I think about it, and high quality impressions at that, given the technical nature of the target demographic.

Interesting from a marketing point of view.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tomksoft:
I do not really think that PopAds will get many advertisers or publishers due to sponsoring the kernel to be honest. It's tech savvy audience, but not really related to webmastering. PopAds sponsored this kernel simply because I am the owner of PopAds and I am owner of Glaxy Note :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] newg:
Possibly, but on the other hand, we ARE sitting on a smartphone forum talking about your unrelated business! No such thing as bad publicity and all that...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Doesn't have to be monetary return always.

Let us thank popads for pushing this project super fast ahead.

Now lets wait for our dear dev to take the project further, gonna be awesome guys!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Bulut.O:
Any eta for the device delivery...???
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Either today or tomorrow hoping DHL delivers on Saturday
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tomksoft:
DHL delivers on Saturday only if you pay additionally for "Saturday delivery". From my experience, no online stores offer such option. Anyway, if it was shipped yesterday by DHL, it should arrive today :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] brooon:
Depends on the country ;) DHL delivers here at saturday as well...you just have to pay for morning express, everything else is standard service...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
hope it arrives today, if not tomorrow.. if not then monday max. and we are ON!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] XpLoDWilD:
Well DHL came but the package was for my brother, not the Note :)

I haven't paid any "Saturday delivery", and I'm not at home from Monday to Friday... So I guess it'll have to wait next weekend if it doesn't come tomorrow :/
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
When i got my Note ordered on expansys from stuff.tv (yes i won a Galaxy Note on stuff.tv lol)

It took just a week to receive it and came from England to Portugal in a whole week... passed in: England, France, Germany, Spain then Portugal lol

Cant wait for this project to happen :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] XpLoDWilD:
Unfortunately it wasn't delivered this weekend. I shipped it at my home, where I'm the weekend, but I'm not there until Saturday. So... We'll have to wait until then :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sam razzy:
Samsung Galaxy s II SOURCES OUT OFFICIALLY FROM SAMSUNG? WILL IT HELP NOTE?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PoisonWolf:
No. AND WHAT IS WITH THE BLOODY ANNOYING CAPS LOCK. IT WONT MAKE YOUR POST STAND OUT ANYMORE THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE WITHOUT THE CAPS LOCK.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sam razzy:
Bloody? Why? It doesn't mean u?

Edit: I forgot to remove hands on Caps lock key on my mobile keyboard!! No need of ****ty dialogue
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PoisonWolf:
No. I'm just pointing out the typical internet etiquette that typing in caps lock is akin to someone yelling in your face. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sam razzy:
Sorry dude..!!!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SealsNavie:
Android is stupid, it should be like Windows...works on every system rather than having to port for each separate device etc, just my opinion and feelings regarding all this ICS waiting for a kernel (not your kernel development) from Samsung.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] praetorius:
but it's open source, unlike windows :P

so instead of whining, go get yourself down and dirty and start developing! otherwise, keep quite and smile like the rest of us whenever something good from somebody with a good heart develops/modifies the firmware.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SealsNavie:
Haha...i'm not that clever (yet) to develop as I don't have time until May so hopefully I can start to seriously learn to program and do something :) ...I am happy just not with Samsung.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] notegalaxy:
This isnt strictly true. Each windows machine requires individual drivers for each of its components
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
What doesn't make sense to me atleast is since its based of Linux why i can't work on all phones. Tablets etc.. ubuntu boots and damn near everything.. i have it running on an old ass dell latitude d500 i had it on my old ass ibook g4 etc.. don't get it..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Yes my friends! Our dev Xplodwild will be using samsung s2 sources , and adapt them into the Galaxy note! woooo!

Check this out : https://twitter.com/xplodwild/status/181736837222641664

and also this one.. https://twitter.com/xplodwild/status/181792896524099584
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sixstringsg:
PC components are more standardized than mobile phones. Ubuntu also has a lot of generic open source drivers that work for a lot of different things like graphics cards.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] eagleofdeath13:
Linux have many drivers for x86 Hardware (some hare given by Hardware makers, some are done by hand without any informations)

But as Linux on ARM is younger for public, there's not so many drivers for it. But this guy try it ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] XpLoDWilD:
You guys should all remember that Galaxy Note and Galaxy S II share 80% of their hardware (Exynos board and Exynos4210 CPU, same regulator, same sensors, etc. Only touch panel and some little stuff differs).

Having S2 kernel sources (though they are dirty as hell) will definitely help for the Note port.

I'll tell you that next week, as I'll get my hands on my Note starting Saturday.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] eagleofdeath13:
Some Galaxy Note GB Kernel Sources have been released not so long ago, maybe you can check on it to see the difference between SGS2 & SGN kernels? (just an idea ^^)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] travis82:
to the above post maybe if we had a gb aosp the sources would be helpful..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] eagleofdeath13:
Each of sources are Samsung ones, so the only differences are the differences between each hardware and i think that it could be interesting for him (to port the GS2 ICS Kernel maybe)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jscurtu:
1st Android is embeded.. 2nd Android is a Linux fork that dont use GNU, X.org or the regular clibs. Also, the bootloader process is not standard (grub not possible)

Its that simple..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Cool thanks didn't think people were still talking about that crap... move on i don't really care if it doesn't work exactly like Linux.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Quote from our dev on the samsung sources which were released last week.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] KelvinLoh:
Waiting for you good news ^^ good luck for you xD
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] eagleofdeath13:
Yeah!!!

(And i think that Android kernel code on the Linux kernel code is a good thing for you :D )
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] XpLoDWilD:
Got it in my hands :) I'll play with it a bit and start kerneling in a few minutes/hours.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
OP Updated, 1st & 2nd Post. :)

The dev has received the device and beginning with the kernel project for note :) Very soon once the kernel has progress, XplodWild will open a new thread in dev section :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] RJackson:
(From stalking irc...) xplodwild hardbricked his Note. He's going to try fix it today with a jig, or send it to codeworkx to try and fix it - hopefully getting it back next saturday.

c also: http://www.blamesamsung.org/quote/61
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
So he bricked his note already???
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LordManhattan:
You would think a dev knew how to NOT brick a device. I'm going to seriously start to doubt this whole project if he asks for more donations.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] thegregulator:
Calm down everyone. Bricks are bound to happen when you're the first to try something.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] matius44:
Seriously guys??

Where did he asked for donation to repair his Note? And it's even more stupid to question his abilities because he bricked his phone when accidents happen to the most talented people..

It's true I did not donate (inability rather than refusing) but if I did, I wouldn't hold my donation in his face as like he owes me something..that contracts the meaning of donation..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] beestee:
I don't see what the issue is. He is attempting to port code between the SII and the Note. Bricks would be expected...why else would a donor note be needed?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PoisonWolf:
A brick is a good sign. :)

It means that the dev is truly trying something at the lower-level and is not some simple random surface-level modification to existing kernels and trying to slap it off as his own or something.

Kudos to the dev. With a jig, it's hard to not be able to recover from most bricks.

Stay positive guys.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Yes.... It happens not a big issue.. Will be solved soon.. The dev is testing everything for us first and going through all this..

While testing such things keep happening at times.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] abstract123:
Yep no big deal. there will be many more bricks and a week delay between each of them so keep cool.

This is was supposed to be a matter of days before the first output, right? Why flame other devs?

"don't sell the fish you haven't fished yet" (unless you ready to pay for penalties ^^)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeromepearce:
The number of times I have trashed my system while writing code is almost beyond count (I am sure I could, but have never tried). Luckily, we have virtual machines for PCs. Not for our phones, sad to say.

If you are not breaking things, you are not doing real development! :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] XpLoDWilD:
I'm a bit sad of having it bricked so soon xD Got my hands on the device saturday afternoon, bricked it saturday evening ^^'

In fact, I was running an AOSP builds for tests, based on the i9220 stuff, with 3.0.15 kernel. I did a build of CM9 for the note, flashed it and bam, dead. After some searches, there could be chances it's due to the differences between i9220 stuff adapted to N7000 and 2.6 kernel I used with my CM9 build.

I'll be taking the device tomorrow at a local Samsung Service centre, hopefully they'll be able to repair it. Jig doesn't work, and from UART output, sbl is broken (pbl can't find it).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PoisonWolf:
I read that as though you typed it with a hint of racial angst. :P
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Diewi:
Hmm, really hard-bricked...

Here the unbrickableMod was really useful. Has anyone got hands onto a documentation of the SPV310 board? It's already been done for SPV210. Although, I think these boards aren't that different...

But I'm quite sure that the donors wouldn't be that happy to risk it. Though, I think it wasn't bricked the last time... and a JTAG interface would help there (and would reduce the waiting time for repair :D )
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Isriam:
jtag can't fix a hard brick. basically you reformat the memory in an incorrect manner that breaks it and you have to replace the motherboard. same thing happened to a ton of galaxy s2 epic 4g touch. if usb jig doesnt work you're hard bricked.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sixstringsg:
Did I miss something where jtag wouldn't work? Does it not work on Exynos or something? On the original Galaxy S jtag works just fine for "hard bricks"
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
JTAG didn't work for a single user after flashing Angelom's rooted stock ICS Note kernel with Touch Recovery. Whoever did a factory reset from the said Recovery was screwed. Motherboard replacement was the only solution.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1526852
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Isriam:
mobiletechvideos.com did some research and found out that the emmc or whatever memory was broken after users used touch recovery to wipe/clear dalviche cache and that caused the bricks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Diewi:
Since when a JTAG interface can't access memory??? There are JTAG tools out there that support exynos processors and, of course, emmc memory... Just look for exynos development boards and debuggers.

BTW, how should samsung programmed the information onto the memory without a programmer/debugger? (Yes, I know there are also other protocols available, but JTAG is superior to almost all of them)

I hope you are not messing up JTAG with JIG. That's something totally different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Test_Action_Group

Correct me if I was wrong. I'm working on that stuff professionally, but there are always specifics...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Why don't you read what happened for yourself?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1526852&highlight=no+flash

Concentrate on the last 15-20 pages.

Plus, here's one other thread for you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1554830
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Diewi:
Thanks.

Which kind of hard-brick is meant here? If the emmc memory is physically corrupted than JTAG cannot work at all. It happens very fast if you write thousand times in a row onto the same memory block.

But what I've read in this thread here is that the bootloader is corrupted and that's software and therefore could be re-written with JTAG. AFAIK this is also called a hard-brick as you can't get the phone into a working state without development tools.

Also I do not want to doubt angelom's abilities. But the hard-brick with his ICS kernel can be different from the one happened here.

But something that really confuses me is that you need a hardware-mod for the GSII in order to access the JTAG interface of the board. See here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1338073

It would make me wonder if the JTAG interface of our notes could be accessed without a similar modification. But if we can: Thank you Samsung! Though I doubt it.

Just one final note: I don't want to offend you at all. I want to exchange knowledge. Please excuse if I used offense talking.

BTW, are you working in the area of MCUs/SOCs as well, chasmodo? It would help to classify your statements (collected knowledge from this forum or practical knowledge/experience). This is not meant in disrespectful at all. It would just help me :) Thank you.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
what happened with angeloms kernel was a completely different thing. we had access to download mode and recovery, but the data partition seems to have been corrupted there somehow

what happened with xplodwilds phone was different, since it was on a i9220 bootloader and firmware it seems to have a different partition system to the 2.x, so when flashing cm9 the sbl got corrupted.

anyway, lets not panic my friends, the dev will have his phone soon! cheers!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Don't worry mate, I didn't take it as disrespectful, just incredulous.:)

Anyway, I don't work in the field at all. I had just followed the Angelom thread closely, and reported what the victims said when they took their phones to the repairs. Most of them had to have their motherboards replaced.

In one or two cases, non-Samsung JTAG repairs were attempted, but failed. In all other, the Sammy services had to fit the affected phone with the new motherboards, and I suppose they tried everything before resorting to that.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Diewi:
Alright, thank you for the information.

In my opinion, the issue with the data-partition could really be a hardware failure. Otherwise the service must have been able to re-flash the original software with a programmer/JTAG, except they are using others than in the factory. But it's also possible that it would have been too much work (and therefore expensive) to really re-flash these devices in a low-level way. Anyway, this is only guessing...

The sbl-"hard-bricking" is more likely to be repaired by re-flashing. You're right, no panic :)

Thank you. Everything's cool then :cool: ;) Your corrections helped me.

I learned to be skeptic from my job as one can always oversee or misinterpret something an that costs lots of time an work :D

At the moment I'm trying to understand what's going on with these phones. I want to avoid risks when starting developing. But unfortunately, I got no time right now (work). I hope I'll have same soon.

Also I'm focusing very much onto this JTAG aspect as you noticed ;). Manufacturers usually hide/block these interfaces on release boards as you might be able to look into their code and are also able to break a lot of stuff. (JTAG is also used for debugging, going through your code step-by-step on the device for example). But I don't doubt that there are other interfaces as well that are actually used for programming (like SPI-bitbanging). But I dont

know

. (Samsung won't give that information:o )

I'll examine the board in the future to have a look at the JTAG interface. It was nice if it was directly accessible.

Unfortunately, I cannot find documentation of our board anywhere (S5PV310) and the one for the GSII board (S5PV210) is incomplete. It was good to know how the memory exactly works to avoid bricks.

There's a development board for the S5PV210 available (SMDKV210), but I haven't made up my mind already if a purchase was really worth it. This one is really unbrickable... but would cost me a lot of money. With that one can develop the most low-level stuff at almost no risk.

Anyway, a module for the serial terminal, I already have at home. I just need to do some soldering to get it working with the phone. This is "enough" to do the kernel part. It's hard to do all that alone, but the goal of ongoing development (latest sources) is great and the only guarantee to be future-safe.

Then I could join development. But I won't make any promises. There's always less time available as you initially plan ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] eagleofdeath13:
Maybe this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yJptSb700go can help you to find the info you're searching?

Hope it 'll help :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] niko0o:
From SGS2 CM9 thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24467778#post24467778

He's talking about xplodwild, don't be so impatient. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] letters_to_cleo:
I'm also following this thread eversince from the beginning... I noticed initially that they were pretty much enthusiastic about the whole project and everything..... enticing people to participate and donate.. for a project that all would benefit...

lately, now... it seems the enthusiasm have died down.. following the recently bricked note.....

well, if they have posted in the other thread (SGS2 CM9), don't you think at least they could have some decency also to post or just inform on the status of the project or where is at right now?

just for the people on this thread to know? Where's the level of enthusiasm I noticed from the start (of this thread) to now?

just an update from the developer on the status of this project on this thread.. would suffice some of us here, including me....

anyway.. that's just my personal take.. no pun intended....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Hey guys relax...

Arguing over here and assuming different things don't work

I understand the excitement and I'm eagerly looking forward to some development as well.

As you know xplodwild had bricked his note and is hopefully getting a new one this week finally

So soon... we will see some movement happening

Lets have some patience and we will soon see some positive results... I'm looking forward too that is the reason I initiated this so our phones deserve the right thing

Let's wait a few more days...there is no point in getting frustrated or being negative.

Cheers
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
These things take time...kernel and driver development from scratch is not a few days process + it does involve phone bricking etc... the dev needs to make sure what he is creating is good and stable.

Many who have invested in getting the note to the dev including me.. are not complaining but instead are supporting..and we need to be positive and encourage our devs.... try to see who the dev is..checkout his other work..he is doing some amazing things for the community..he doesn't have time to give wrong informations..whatever has been said about the status is the situation which exists.

Let's have some patience.. we will eventually see xplodwild create kernel for aosp cm9 and stock roms.

Thank you!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] beestee:
This kernel is to secure future development for our notes is it not? So why be so anxious for a release when we are still getting plenty of official updates from Samsung?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] androidindian:
Xplodwild will reply today guys...he isn't available ...but in some hours he will.already told him about it..he will update soon
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] be_vigilant:
All of the comments in the last few pages are an embarrassment to XDA. You should all be ashamed of yourself. :mad:

Rigby2011 you need your account banning asap. Do us all a favour and buy an iphone.