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[HTC EVO 3D] gump4696:
What is PG86DIAG.zip? When I run the bootloader, that is the first thing that comes up.... It scrolls so fast, but I can see PG86IMG.zip comes a couple lines later....
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
That's just another file that the bootloader looks for when it's checking for it's list of files that it can flash.

Since you have the exe from the 2.17 update, run it on the PC, let it come to the first screen where it's asking you to press "next."

Then click start, run and type in %temp% and press enter.

Search that folder for rom.zip

copy that file to your SD Card and call it PG86IMG.zip (delete the one you have there now)

Boot to bootloader and try again.
[HTC EVO 3D] .Elite_The_King.:
Try this one this right here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21593454&postcount=564 then just wait a minute or so then press update and take out the battery in 4 seconds its the best way to brick it easy.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
No need to download yet another one when he already has the exe that he knows worked. Pull it from the exe with the method I gave above.
[HTC EVO 3D] gump4696:
Ok, pulled the ROM from the temp folder, threw it on the sd card, ran it, no go... I even tried a different sd card... Is it possible for there to be a problem with the bootloader??
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Unlikely, it would be a brick if that were the case. boot up normally, format the card with the phone, then connect to PC as disk drive, drop in the rom.zip (as PG86IMG.zip) and try again.

Does it say Security Warning at the top on bootloader(right below the LOCKED) part?
[HTC EVO 3D] gump4696:
No security warning, will format with phone and try.

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The same, nothing. Even if I am running 2.17, it will still "update"??

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The same, nothing. Even if I am running 2.17, it will still "update"??
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
It should...

The only thing I can think of is to run that Exe all the way through another time, it should go through update and erase everything and start the phone from scratch. Make sure it does this properly.
[HTC EVO 3D] gump4696:
I finally figured it out... I was naming the file PG86IMG.zip, so in reality the file was named PG86IMG.zip.zip... No wonder bootloader couldn't find it... I feel like an idiot, loading now... Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Ugh, you said it was actually checking it... oh well at least you got it fixed.
[HTC EVO 3D] fr0st420:
If anyone needs it here is a fast download link for RUU_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_1.13.651.7_Radio_0.97.10.0530_NV_NV_SPCS_1.16_release_198109_signed:

http://d-h.st/h67jtgzd8p0o
[HTC EVO 3D] A2CKilla:
Now apart of the 1.40 crew!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Meanee:
I've got a weird one. Looks like I can "Brick" it just fine. The very faint orange LED flashing and all, but if I plug in the battery, hold volume down and connect the cable, LED is pretty bright. And if I hit power, phone actually boots up.... Is that normal?
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Not bricked. Keep trying.
[HTC EVO 3D] Meanee:
Argh this is aggravating. The BOOTLOADER progress bar is there for fraction of a second.
[HTC EVO 3D] A2CKilla:
i don't see how everyone is having problems doing this, i got my phone bricked very easily and on top of that, i had to go to work, so it stayed bricked for 8 hours then i got home and finished the process, when the phone came back on the battery still wasn't dead
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Re-read the post. Let the device SIT when it says "Press volume up to update" for at LEAST 2-3 minutes. This (for some odd reason) delays/slows the bootloader update process. count to 5 and pull, the progress bar appearing is a great queue to do it, but you have to be real fast, but you can pull it before that as well.

Yeah, the device stays bricked once it's properly bricked and until you re-flash a valid HBOOT file.

The reason it's bricked is because the radio checks the signature on the hboot before it allows it to boot. Because we're corrupting the hboot by interrupting the flash, signature fails everytime it tries to boot, no boot. So it's bricked alright, and won't fix until you fix the hboot partition.

To think about it a little more logically...

If Signature == HTC {
Goto BootNormal
} else {
Goto NoBootEmergencyMode
}
[HTC EVO 3D] Meanee:
Done that. Even let it sit for 10 minutes. Still only a fraction of a second. But I can always try more.

Would faster/slower MicroSD change anything?
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Nope, b/c it gets copied to the phone temporarily before the flash.
[HTC EVO 3D] masbirdies:
Weird.....

When I try to do the brick with the AC method, as soon as I hit the volume up and on AC only, the screen goes black within about 2 secs....before I can pull the plug.

I've tried it with pulling the battery but so far....cant get the brick.
[HTC EVO 3D] .Elite_The_King.:
Do you get the update screen? The pulling the battery should work but should let it sit for like 2 mins to 3 then pull the battery in 4-5 seconds. Then plug it into a powersource as unknownforce said a very very very dim orangie light then its brick.
[HTC EVO 3D] Meanee:
Bricked my by accident lol. Was on the field and had some time to spare. Thought I'd work on this. And accidentally dropped the battery earlier than supposed to. Now on 1.40. Awesome tool, and many many thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] elektrik2001:
lol! wish I had that kind of luck! been trying to brick mine for 2 hours without success (apparently my timing sucks!)....

...never wanted to brick my phone so badly before...
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
This has to be the quote of the day...

Haha, hang in there, you'll get it.
[HTC EVO 3D] timezone12:
When I tried the bricking part I must've tried about 10 times with waiting from 2 min to 20 min in between. I then said oh dam I am using a power strip let's see what plugging into wall dose. Well that was number 11 and got it on first try. So dont use power strips.
[HTC EVO 3D] harismahesh:
I am on HBOOT 1.50 with S-OFF, so now I need to change back to S-ON and do downgrade. or is their any other way ???
[HTC EVO 3D] cash525:
U are s-off? So just flash h-boot 1.4
[HTC EVO 3D] cash525:
U can flash from bootloader
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
You can just run the 1.13 RUU, it will downgrade you and then you can revolutionary. S-OFF turns off all the signature checks and version checking.
[HTC EVO 3D] harismahesh:
1.33RUU .exe ???
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Yep, and if that doesn't work, you can pull the rom.zip from the exe and put it on the SDCard called PG86IMG.zip and it will allow the flash through bootloader.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nesiop:
Alright guys, so now I am curious what my issue is here.

I did the steps for the update bootloader, pulled the battery, and all the stuff, then during the "updating" of bootloader I pulled the power cord, phone turned off instantly, I plugged it back in but did not get the red dim light. And now I can not turn the phone back on what so ever.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
It's bricked. That's what you want. Move on to the next step.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nesiop:
And if that is in fact how it is supposed to be. How come during the boot cd using the d) downgrade option I do the volume down plug in the phone and it just sits there looking for the phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Put the battery back in and see if it turns back on. If it does, it's not bricked.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I didn't do the cd, so can't help you on that one. But when I did it (the manual way with Ubuntu installed on my computer) I had kind of a hard time finding the phone too. It took me a few tries. I think I ended up having to leave the battery in while I did it (pulling it between each try).
[HTC EVO 3D] Nesiop:
Got it, and now 1.40. It was the fact that when I didn't see the red dim light I thought something went wrong so i put my battery in to fix it, and when I tried those steps to "downgrade" on the boot from my jumpdrive, it wouldn't work if you had the battery in.
[HTC EVO 3D] greeg32:
I think some people's eyes just don't see the red light. I've seen it often (before every power up from being fully powered down) so I recognized it right away.
[HTC EVO 3D] robdeezle:
I get the very dim light but it doesn't work when I hold volume down and plug it into the comp! I take it I'm not bricked yet. I'm waited plenty of time letting the update sit but no brick. Light though

Update* nevermind I figured the brick part out I notice the light difference when it was done correctly. Also the cargee should be pulled a split second before the updating disappears :)
[HTC EVO 3D] harismahesh:
ok..but mine is in RELOCKED state with HBOOT 1.50 and S-OFF so flashing 1.13RUU.exe will do ?
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
S-OFF means you can flash any PG86IMG.zip without signature checking or version verification. So yes.

If for some reason the EXE does not work, extract the zip file place it on the SDcard called PG86IMG.zip and flash from bootloader.
[HTC EVO 3D] roofus3000:
Success!

Well after hours of reading and trial and error I finally downgraded successfully! Now I can root like im supposed to. And to think I was going to unlock via htc again after i received my new phone. smh The process is so easy now i think I could show a caveman how to do it now! Thanks to all who was patient enough to respond to all my questions. Now I just have to master how to theme these roms to my liking. Well here goes the fun part.
[HTC EVO 3D] flooppoolf:
Okay, this is, well, a pain. Every time as soon as I see the little UPGRADE bar, I unplug. All I get is the Dim light but it's blinking... I can't get the PC to recognize, can I brick it by switching zips into a downgraded RUU.zip? :confused: Please help I can't brick it...
[HTC EVO 3D] Jim M:
Got-r-done again, this time it was on my wife's 3D. This time it was a whole lot easier to brick.

Thank you. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] fourthhorseman:
I have a problem, I can't get the ruu 2.17 zip to run in bootloader so i can brick the phone. I renamed the ruu 2.17 zip PG86IMG.zip, My phone was htc unlocked so I relocked it and flashed a stock ruu 2.17 exe. I don't know what else I can do to get the PG86IMG to work. the bootloader reads and checks the zip but it doesn't give me the option to run the zip. I also partitioned my sdcard
[HTC EVO 3D] bdoople:
Same here, after 20 attempts I can't get this damned thing to brick. Tried immediately, counting to 5, many variations of the two, with the AC power only and while pulling the battery. I guess it's just a point of getting the timing down.
[HTC EVO 3D] flooppoolf:
I'm going to try and pull it at 4 seconds, this way, I have just enough tie to pull it and not waste time. Gonna see if it works, although, it would help if the RUU wouldn't take a life time to load... :p Patience :p I'm sure we'll get it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Try leaving the battery in and not using the ac adapter and pulling the battery at the right time instead. I've heard others get it that way a little easier.
[HTC EVO 3D] xlxcrossing:
The guy who did the first video showing him brick it did it exactly right. It's 4 seconds but counted a little slower than normal. So it should be

1 one thousand

2 one thousand

3 one thousand

PULL

You should speak the one thousand quickly during the count, think of a metronome ...tick tock tick tock

if you do 3 seconds or even 5 or more chances are it won't brick and leave you with just a blinking led yet still dim. I know because I tested each timeframe to no avail.
[HTC EVO 3D] timetraveler:
i cant even get my evo to boot the image to brick i have the 2.17 zip

it reads the image it checks the image then it goes back to hboot ?? need info please ...

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same here cant get the hboot to load the image
[HTC EVO 3D] timetraveler:
thank you for the link it does load the image wow now to brick

last image was stuck at reading img file checking img file then it went back to hboot now this link work for me

xxx

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any special htc drivers i need to install on my pc running win 7 ultimate to run the 1.13 ruu ??
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
If you don't already have the HTC Drivers installed (also part of HTC Sync, but uninstall HTC Sync & leave driver behind) here is the original HTC 3.0.0.007 (driver only) from Revolutionary's Site: these HTC fastboot drivers.
[HTC EVO 3D] fourthhorseman:
finally got the hboot to downgrade and finished revolutionary. i actually got revolutionary to run without flashing the ruu 1.13. strange but now im gonna flash the newest verion of infected eternity with anthrax. thanks a ton unknownforce.
[HTC EVO 3D] HTC_Stuff:
So I managed to brick my Evo 3d; but when I run the downgrade script that Unknownforce wrote and connect the phone to my computer (I see the extremely dim red charge light) running Ubuntu while holding down the volume key the terminal windows just says: "Waiting for device...". As if the phone wasn't connected or is not being recognized. Any ideas? Thank you.

Hopefully I can get it working before tomorrow.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Pull out the battery. Hold the volume - button down. Plug it into the computer. If it doesn't work, pop in the battery and press the power button. Make sure that it is truly bricked.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] HTC_Stuff:
I ended up using the HBoot Downgrade Toolkit LiveCD that you made on another computer and it worked like a charm!! Thank you very much for your help & the great tool you put together!
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I'm glad that I was able to help you HTC_Stuff. :)

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] elektrik2001:
As a follow-up, I finally *did* get it to brick. my phone was so utterly picky though, I had to use a METRONOME to get the timing just right (I won't go into more detail for sake of double-posting).
[HTC EVO 3D] xlxcrossing:
You have to try all the possible letters as stated in the OP. I will say that mine was noticed on "f" so don't think it can only be a through d as stated in the OP...it can go higher.
[HTC EVO 3D] subaochen:
hi,

can I cheat the hboot that I have a higher version of rom.zip? then I can update from sdcard with fastboot.... But how to cheat the hboot? any idea? Thanks very much!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
You don't have to put in any letters anymore, the latest downgrade tool is completely automated, you simply run it and plug the phone in now.

To answer your question, no. The only known way is to change the main version to a lower number, but to my understanding your phone doesn't boot to system, is that correct?

Have you tried this:

Have you tried also to do a Factory Reset from HBOOT to see if the phone will boot properly?
[HTC EVO 3D] pabls:
Can't Brick it

Hi, i am a vivid reader of XDA, i've been helping to unlock all my friends cell phones, with the help of the wonderful developers here at XDA, i am in no way an expert, but i've been able to root, unlock and install every rom that is in this forums... being that said, i'm desperate, because i cannot brick a the 3D, i re locked it, install de 2.17 from scratch so now it only says RELOCKED, i try unbrick it, but as soon as i press the volume up, (without the battery and using the oricinal USB cable attached to the original AC adapter) it turns off. the phone turns off, i've been reading posts, and there was a suggestion that we can do it with the battery on, and count to 4 or 5 and pull the battery out, but when the update letters appear next to bootloader doesnt get to number 2 when is already on the second option i mean, if i have to take the power out when is writing the bootloader it is a matter of 1 and a half second, what am i doing wrong? my major concern is that i cannot make it to start installing the .zip file when i press the volume up key... i've tried this easyly 25 times, no kidding, now my patience is out... THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
It isn't an exact time, it varies per device, per how long you let it sit, per many things... It can be longer or shorter. The bar on the upper right corner also isn't a specific indication either or isn't the exact time to do it.(I've gotten it to brick as I've seen it, and I've also gotten it to brick before seeing it at all. You want to get it as close to or around that time though, so watch it, if it's ALWAYS taking 2 seconds to get to the next line, then pull it at 1.5 seconds... if it takes 5 seconds to get to the 2nd line, then pull at 4.5 seconds. The file it's flashing is only 1 MB, It can read/write more than that in a single second, so timing is critical. You have to interrupt it at the exact time it's ACTUALLY flashing it to partition so that it becomes corrupt.

Also, as I've said in the main post as well as the FAQ, let the phone sit for at least 1-2 minutes before pressing volume up, and then kill the power. (either by battery or ac adapter)

Just takes the exact timing and patience. You'll get it. Just keep trying.

I really wish there was an easier way to do it, or like a smaller zip file that it would accept that wouldn't take 3-5 minutes just to read/check. But unfortunately we're relying upon HTC's signature file here... so we're stuck with the whole package.

Just think... it's a good thing that it's THIS HARD to brick your device... Otherwise how do you think HTC would still be in business? They'd have so many bricks on their hands to replace... lol...
[HTC EVO 3D] pabls:
Thanks man, i'll give it a try again, believe me i've tried everything before posting anything, but maybe like all i'm only stressed and my mind is cloudy or something... i appreciate your time, i'll calm down and try it again. thanks again!
[HTC EVO 3D] captain008:
Thanks again to Unknownforce and all the deva that brought this to us. I was able to root two refurb 3Ds in about a half an hour.
[HTC EVO 3D] .Elite_The_King.:
Let it sit in the update screen for 5 mins.
[HTC EVO 3D] robforself:
I just want to thank unknown and the rest of the ppl involved in this. having s-off and not dealing with the flashing gui and stuff, its so much easier.. and the instructions are to the point.

GREAT JOB.

and i think everyone should do this.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Ok, so I took a few weeks off from trying to downgrade but decided that tonight was the night. So, 5 hours later, i'm 1.40 hboot :D but Revolutionary will not root my 3D. Oh well. Downgraded at last!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] :
it's 3 AM. do you know where your 1.40 hboot s-off is? Unknownforce and all the others that made it possible. I'm saying it again. Thank you. Now i'm off to restore my backup and go to sleep.
[HTC EVO 3D] tallguywes:
Help!

Recently, I dropped my e3d, and the touch screen was seriously messed up. Upon repair, my hboot is now 1.5, locked, but still s-off. Can I just flash a recovery, then a Rom, or can I somehow downgrade hboot first, so that I can use revolutionary again? Obviously I can't use this method in the op, so any help would be greatly appreciated!

My apologies if I missed a relevant posting, or if this is not posted in the correct forum.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Being S-OFF, you can flash any PG86IMG.zip file. that could be a lower HBOOT or a recovery or anything.

Best thing is to get the ENG Hboot, so that it's completely unlocked, and just flash a recovery via fastboot.
[HTC EVO 3D] REVREN:
Hey what's up guys, I'm gonna attempt to downgrade my friends e3d when he gets his replacement from sprint, but I see that the thread had changed seens the last time I was here.I see that the first step is to brick the phone.

My question is what happen with the temp rooting and changing the main_version to 1.10 step before bricking the phone is that not being done anymore with the downgrade tool that is in the post now?
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Unknownforce updated the script/tool so that the version change wasn't needed. Closeone has a Linux boot cd/usb tool that runs a lot of unknownforce's scripts for you.
[HTC EVO 3D] subaochen:
I have tried flash misc.img but failed because of "remote denied", and factory reset also failed, it just reboot and boot loop.

So, I can not boot into the system to change the main version to a lower number.

Maybe I can find any rom with high version number(nothing with evo 3d) and try to brick the phone? is that possible? Thanks anyway!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
The only thing I can think of would be trying to flash an EVO 4G signed stock rom. Their version number is higher. but the problem is that it's for a completely different device, so it will probably not allow that either...

Other than that, you might have to wait until they come out with ICS, which will HOPEFULLY have a higher version than what you have.

What does it do when you try to factory reset? Does it actually go through the process of resetting or does it give an error?

You could try to go into fastboot USB and do fastboot -w
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Have many of you who downgraded been faced with sprint error 16? Just curious.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
I have not personally, but if you are, take a look at this thread by Product F(RED). Mpgrimm2 had pointed me to this one earlier.

~co~
[HTC EVO 3D] Saneless One:
Took a good 20 tries but I finally got it. Thanks a ton, I had to get a replacement phone today and I didn't want to find out how bad living with 1.5 would be :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
@ Closeone, you may want to add that error 16 link into your post 3 directions ie: "if u get error 16 after revolutionary/Ruu 1.13 go here".
[HTC EVO 3D] tstack77:
My God, I'm on attempt 20+ and have tried waiting 5 minutes for the last few...nothing can brick this f**ker.

Not trying to sound ungrateful, but what does all the waiting on the update screen accomplish?

EDIT: Finally got it. Sat down to watch a movie and skipped the waiting part completely, then simply pulled the battery instead of going the cable route. Counting to 4 worked for me, to all else, YMMV
[HTC EVO 3D] webdecoder:
Hboot 1.5 s-off to s-on

I successfully downgraded to 1.4 and rooted phone. I flashed Miui, but could not activate phone, made mistake of running PG86img to activate phone. Can someone tell me how to get s-off to s-on so I can run downgrade again. Also phone is also showing locked. Thank you for your help
[HTC EVO 3D] subaochen:
I have tried to flash evo 4G's rom, just failed silently, return to fastboot without any message.

Also, factory reset just return to fastboot, with message security warning.

Fastboot -w just said remote not allowed.

So, maybe my only option is to wait ICS RUU... my God!

Anyway, thanks very much, especially to unknownforce!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
You can just re-run 1.13 and go back, S-OFF will let you flash whatever now, no need to S-ON again.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Can you use HTC Unlock again? I have never used it, does it work from inside the bootloader?

If so, re-unlock, then try to flash the RUU or factory reset again.
[HTC EVO 3D] noodle0506:
so is the hardest part of this trying to get the 1.13 ruu to download? lol i have been trying for 2 days lol. will any 1.13 ruu work or do i have to have this one
[HTC EVO 3D] ridleyj329:
im having trouble getting my ubuntu to recognize my phone. How can i tell tell if my phone is actually bricked or not? Or maybe if there is an issue with my connection or my linux box.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
It's bricked if the device no longer boots at all (No power) and when you put the battery back in and plug it into the wall, it does NOT indicate that it's charging. (Only the dim light shows up)
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Try different mirrors, as long as it's the exe for it, you should be fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] ridleyj329:
thanks! i tried last night and tried the battery pull method. I got the dim red light and when I plugged my phone in i got no response. i put the battery in while plugged into my linux box and i got the bright light as if it were charging. maybe i pulled batter too soon. i was able to boot into fast boot installed the the PG86IMG i had which allowd me to get back up and running. I'll have to try again when I get off work tonight.
[HTC EVO 3D] thznutz87:
http://i.minus.com/1335119674/2D7rTt4wTHP6W0c6ao6Bzw/inOJqDZiLCS46.exe

There is 1.13