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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
just curious but why would anyone need more than 16 gbs? i've uploaded like 17gb of music to google music and htc is giving you 25 gb from dropbox in which to upload pictures and videos too (which you can see similarly to google music).

i have a note with 16 built in and a 32 removable but looking at the settings right now and ignoring the 29gb i have free on the card, i have 8.76gb free combined between system and "usb" storage (don't ask me why it's labeled that).

so from total os, formatting, loads of apps (71 apps, widgets don't show), pictures (over 200), and whatever else i missed, i still have over 8gbs. i guess my point is, quit downloading porn people. lol, kidding, but i think 16 inside is fine.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CheesyNutz:
yea 16 gigs is plenty with google music and others it makes taking your music with you simple and easy
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mrpopgun:
Tell yourself that as you prep for your next round trip cross country flight. 32GB on a flagship 2012 product should have been a no brainer regardless of the model. Since it wasn't, you'll have to decided what music you want to dump in order to fit more movies on-board.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slapdaddy:
Quite true, and keep in mind that NAND backups, especially when you have multiple backups for different ROMs take up quite a LOT of space. Add that to HD videos, movies, high-resolution pictures, music, GPS map files, and that 16GB starts to look pretty damn small really damn fast lol. Then you think "Oh that's fine, I'll just take this MicroSDHC car....oh my God no..." So you pause for a moment and then you might think "Hey at least I have dropbox and a massive amount of files there!" but AT&T is currently doing their best (or worst) to get rid of people that have their unlimited data plan. And even then, after 3-5GB of used bandwidth, you're still on badly throttled speeds until your next billing cycle begins.

So how far can you honestly expect to get with 16GB of memory that is not expandable? Once you eat up your 2GB or 3GB of data, you're $#%@!&, especially if you're in a place where you have no computer access to retrieve files - which would be annoying to have to do anyway. And especially if you're on LTE so the bandwidth flies that much faster. If by some chance you ARE on unlimited data, enjoy downloading and swapping out 200MB of MP3 files or a 500MB movie or a 400+MB backup from your dropbox with heavily throttled speeds. So in the end you're @$#&^* again lol.

I hate to say it, because I was waiting for this device, but the lack of a storage expansion absolutely kills this for me. Add to that the non-removable battery and it's just not worth the money. Yes, there are absolutely amazing features on this device, the screen, the S4, the camera, the unified body like my Inspire - but there are certain deal-breakers that just ruin the entire experience and unfortunately, the One XL for AT&T has two of them.

:(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jmitr:
Man, I am sick of reading posts like this.

Google music is fine for cloud storage IF you live in the U.S. In Canada we will be stuck with the XL an one S, both only 16gb.

I'm personaly waiting until the fall to see if HTC figures out their failure, if they want iphone features like no expandable storage and a non emovable battery then offer different storage options like Apple does.

If the one S and X / XL came in 16,32 and 64gb options, they'd sell waaaaaaay more.

If HTC wants to stick with low storage than my next phone will be the galaxy s3 instead, that's too bad
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
This.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gordongartrell:
The One X uses about 4-6gb of the 16gb of storage, so we only have 10-12gb to actually play with. After loading a few games, apps, music, pictures, tv shows and movies, I

might

just make it under the 10gb limit. I hated constantly having to delete apps, movies from my HTC Desire because of the lack of internal storage. I don't want to go through this again with the One X.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
only the s3 will probably not have a slot, seems the way we are going. but question, why can you not use google music in canada?

btw, in addition to dropdox, i hear you get another 25gb from another cloud service free on the phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jmitr:
Google music is for the U.S. only, we cannot even purchase music. When I was in Washington D.C. last month on business I was all giddy when I noticed the music tab appear in google play. I tried to purchase songs but could not. We have the google music app, but CANNOT sync to the cloud with it.

I mentioned the Samsung S3, but only if it either A. Has an SD slot, or B. Has at least 32gb of internal storage.

I am not alone in this, I have read tonnes (actually a metric fucton) of threads on this and other forums with peeps concerned about limited storage.

I do not unsterstand why the One XL could not retain the same storage as the One X.

I stand by my original assertion, HTC should have offered multiple storage options (8,16,32 or 16,32,64gb) for their One series phones. This would make the issue of no SD card go away. The dropbox service is a nice touch, but how much will it be after your free period is up? In Canada we have 3 year service plans, not 2 like the States. Plus, I am an Airline Pilot, so the cloud is great while I'm at home, when I'm literally in the cloud.....not so much.

Coming from the HTC desire, having to constantly manage space, I told myself never again will I buy a phone that I will be concered about storage with. This sucks, but I will wait until the fall to see if HTC redeems itself.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chaosjh:
back to the main subject, i hear the rogers one will be 32gb, thoughts? ideas? proof?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NardVa:
Just read online that Sprint's version of the One X will have 16GB internal memory and a micro sd card slot.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slapdaddy:
Not sure, but I recall watching a video review of the X (not XL), from phonearena.com I think, and there WAS a microSDHC expansion slot on the top of the phone, slightly on the backside, to the right side if you're looking at the screen. There was a small hole next to the slot that you had to slide a small pin inside of in order to eject the cover to insert the card. If this is the case then it appears HTC did indeed include hardware for a microSDHC expansion but certain carriers chose not to implement this on their specific model. I haven't heard any word on the Rogers model yet.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
Links to said micro-sd slot news?

EDIT: http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=18761&news=sprint+HTC+one+X+evo+one
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shinji21:
I think that is the micro sim tray
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jmitr:
Go to HTC.ca yourself and check out the Roger's version, 16gb confirmed by HTC itself.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ZeroRilix:
Nope, that IS the microSIM tray. You use the pointed end of the tool included with the phone to pop out the tray and insert your microSIM
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Rogers will have 16GB ...

The Rogers unit will have 16GB, while the International unit will have 32GB. I just purchased the International version ONE X, and it HAS 32GB.

Peter

Addendum: The Sprint unit announced yesterday, in partnership with HTC, will have a microSD slot. Their version is unique.

Addendum 2: Although I also have the Rogers ONE XL on pre-order (#3 in Canada), I may keep the International ONE X because, from everything I've seen so far about the ONE XL, especially all the images involving the Rogers unit, is that it will be the white version ... and I hate white phones. Even the Rogers Reservation page shows a white unit.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jmitr:
What network are you on, Rogers or Bellus?

How is network quality, and data connection? I read a review that used the international One X on at&t in the U.S. and they mentioned it kept dropping the network.

Last question, where'd you buy it and how much?

Thanks man, I'm only interested in the One X not XL because storage is more important to me than LTE.

Thanks man,

J

Edit: Just read on the other thread your on Rogers, if you have or once you get your one X can you answer the question about netwrok quality?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
I'll try my best ...

You're right. I don't have the phone yet. I called FedEx this morning and asked if I might be able to pick it up from their facility tomorrow. They said yes, as long as it's cleared customs. Otherwise, I'll have it on Monday. Actually, I would have had it today had it not been for Good Friday, which is a national holiday in Canada.

I'm a bit like you. I much prefer the 32GB, although, I'd love to have LTE. We'll see what happens when Rogers begins shipping their pre-orders. From what I can tell, the Rogers unit will be white. If true, then I'll stay with the ONE X because I hate white phones.

I'll try my best to answer your questions on Monday or Tuesday once I have the phone in my possession. If you're right about the connectivity issue, I may be swayed to the Rogers unit. I truly hope they have both the black and white versions.

Peter

Addendum: I bought the ONE X from OnTheGo Solutions for US$739.99. I've dealt with OnTheGo a few times before, and they have always given me impeccable service. Here's the link:

http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_ONE_X

Addendum 2: I just noticed that you're with Telus, so you'd know that today is a national holiday. I actually mentioned this fact because many Americans do not have the day off. Actually, most Americans are NOT off today. Oh, well. Another reason I'm glad to be a, well, you know. :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] alwayslearning:
I have my one x in hand and it has 32gig; I bought mine from http://www.networkingrus.com/ and they did a better price than you got at on the go, you can get it for $699. and they have great customer service
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tinh_la_gi:
Congratulations .. Good price that :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Yes, good price, but ...

You're right. They have a lower price, but theirs is not rooted. Although I could certainly root the phone myself, this way I have no concerns. If there's a problem, OnTheGo will cover it under warranty. With Networkingrus, if you root it, warranty is lost.

I guess it's simply a preference. Good luck with yours. I'll have mine on Monday.

Peter

Addendum: I just noticed on Networkingrus site that if you want warranty on your phone, if the phone is between $501 and $750, it will cost you an additional $47, which makes your phone more expensive. Again, though, even if you buy the warranty, if you root it, the warranty is lost, which is not the case with OnTheGo.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jmitr:
Thanks for the reply, I look forward to hearing how well the connectivity works for you.

Thanks for the link as well, and yes being a Canuck can sometimes have it's advantages!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Joshua3109:
Quick question, will the international version of this phone with work with the bell/aliant network? Where I live Bell/Aliant share their towers with Telus.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeterGuru:
Works great so far, but ...

Well, I've had the ONE X for about 3 days now, and everything works wonderfully; however, there were some very frustrating issues. Let me expand:

Everything seemed to be okay after I finalized all settings, and installed all apps. However, things soon began to go south. I discovered quite a few glitches after going through each individual app. One simple example was the built-in weather program. I could not open settings. The settings screen would appear briefly, and then disappear. Also, although I could add a weather location, it was impossible to delete the 6 pre-listed locations, which were all Asian cities. The phone was released in the Asia WWE region, so the Asian locations were understandable, but not being able to delete them was very frustrating.

Also, I could not select English-United States as a language. It simply didn't exist. The only English language versions were all Asian. For example, there was English-Singapore, English-Vietnam (don't ask me), etc. This created a host of other issues, which are too numerous to mention here.

Numerous other apps didn't work particularly well either.

To make a long story short, I was about to send the unit back to OnTheGo Solutions when I decided to change the ROM. I picked LeeDrOiD because it's the only one I could find that didn't require a rather technical method of flashing. Although I could probably have installed Android Revolution, I decided against it because of the technical prerequisites. It wasn't a simple flash like other ROMs I've installed on other phones.

Anyway, I have to say, now that LeeDrOiD is installed, EVERY PROBLEM is GONE! Seriously ... every one. :)

The phone flies, and connectivity is as good as my previous Galaxy Nexus.

Regarding benchmarks, I am in utter shock. I got a 1655 on Velamo, which is quite good, but it gets better. My score on Quadrant was 4920 (awesome), and on CF I got 24698 (astounding). All these scores were BEFORE I installed LeeDrOiD. I'll report back another time on all scores using LeeDrOiD.

At this point I'm definitely keeping the phone, well, that is, until the ONE XL is released by Rogers. I'll try the Rogers unit to see how it works, and if equally impressed, I will probably keep it and sell my current ONE X.

The other major issue I had with the original ROM was a TON of bloatware. Now it's all gone.

So, in conclusion, I'm truly impressed with this phone, and I hear the Snapdragon version with LTE is, perhaps, even faster. If so, I'll be in mobile shock.

Peter

---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:08 PM ----------

It should work. My unit works perfectly on the Rogers network, and the frequencies are the same.

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jmitr:
Thanks for all the info.

I used to use LeeDroid on my Desire, until Lee moved on and stopped upgrading his ROM, that guy is a great dev.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] alwayslearning:
I have two One X's one white and one gray both have Lee's ROM :D

I had one with Lee's ROM 1.0 and then got another One X for the wife, we both have Lee's 2.10, soon I am sure Lee will be coming out with 2.5 or 3.0.

My stock ROM did not have the issues Peter said, I did not have US English but I used an app "more location" (I think is the name) and install US English from it. Lee's now has US English.

this is a great phone, once you use this screen you can't go back. My backup phone is a Gal Note LTE I use it instead of a 7" tablet, also a great screen.

I am going to be getting the AT&T One X because I want the LTE, I am hoping if enough of us ask Lee will make a ROM for that phone
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] lilhyper:
Sigh I will probably get the One XL and sell it for a One X. LTE is great but I do a lot of transpacific flights and 16gb of storage will bore me to death on the long flights.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Hunt3r.j2:
The ideal solution would have been 16GB internal + microSD, but alas..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] calin75:
Sorry to tell you guys buy it's only 16gb. =(

http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs

:mad::mad:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tamanaco:
Disappointed, but not surprised that this new phone will only have 16GB. Without ringing the "Conspiracy" bell, I would not be surprised if US service providers are limiting the specs requirements as it relates to the storage for devices that they subsidize/sell for use in their cell networks. Limiting the internal storage and removing external storage slots makes the user more dependent on services (Multimedia) in the cloud. This means more money for the service providers given that now "Unlimited Data" no longer means all the data cell network users can consume. All providers are capping the amount of data an end user can consumed within a month... If this limit is surpassed additional charges per MB are added to the user's bill. In other words, more money, more money... More Money. I understand that WiFi is still available in "most" places, but ask yourself what would be more convenient.... LTE/3G service everywhere your service provider covers or having the luck of finding an open WiFi AP where you need it? As I see it, most of the new US-provider-subsided-cutting-edge-Smarphones that are coming to market have limited storage and have no External SD slot. To name a few: Nokia 900, HTC One X/S and Galaxy Nexus (Where can you get the subsidized US version of the Nexus with 32 GB?) I'm not saying that an agreement between manufacturers and providers exists to limit Smartphone storage, but it sounds to me like the service providers are limiting the storage specs requirements when they order phones from most manufacturers. In the case of Apple is the other way around. Again, just a thought... I have no hard evidence to backup this theory.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] lilhyper:
I agree with you. I'll still be getting a One XL as it's a great phone that is well designed. However I can't help but wonder why ATT would purposely cripple such a state of the art phone and it obviously must be related to profits.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JoeM01:
:shrug:

my current phone has a micro SD slot, and literally the only thing I use it for is photos and ROM/nandroid storage. Everything else is in the cloud. Storage has never been an issue for me because of it.

i guess that's why the 16gb doesn't really bother me too much. you get what you pay for, and for $199, its a good deal. also, for a company trying to get itself out of its current financial woes, having multiple versions of the phone isn't really cost effective. from an assembly line perspective, this line over here is quad core, 32gb. done. this line over here is 16gb, dual core LTE. done. cheaper, faster, easier to produce.

I'm not saying its the best choice from a consumer perspective, but from a company perspective, I understand. plus, phones are getting thinner and thinner, and things have to go to make room. the main sacrificial lamb seems to be the micro sd slot.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tamanaco:
":shrug:"

I guess you do not use your phone to watch movies on its screen while travelling or TVs in hotels... I do. You might also have disposable income to pay for extra GBs. I use my 32GB SD to store a few movies and connect my Galaxy S to the TVs RGB or S-Video inputs in hotels to watch movies when I'm on the road. Streaming multimedia over the cell network to Smartphones has many limitations. Namely, bandwidth, signal strength, interference, cell service coverage and excessive battery drainage. My 32GB SD and 16GB Micro SD cards do not suffer from any of those.

Again, I don't think it is manufacturing issue. If you were to look at the footprint of the chip (circuit board) from a 32GB as it compares to a 16GB there's a very negligible difference. We're talking about microns here which would make no difference with automated manufacturing. The Micro SD slot can make a significant difference, but not enough to justify leaving it out. How frequently do you use the front facing camera? Again, for me it's very convenient to use when I travel for use in planes and where there is no network service. I have a big portion of my music library in my 32GB SD and my Jazz and Classic music in my 16GB SD that I take with me when I travel. With just 16GB of incarcerated storage... I'd have to bring a separate device for my multimedia when I travel.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Yeah, I do a lot of travel as well, including long international flights. So storing things on the cloud isn't a good option, and entertainment on my device is a must.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JoeM01:
i hear you, and I'm not saying you're wrong, just that HTC is in a sticky place right now. They need to try and regain some ground from a profitability standpoint, and having multiple versions of the phone isn't the way to do it. plus, it makes selling the phone at a more attractive price easier.

nissan did this years ago with their "parts bin" approach to cars. mass produce parts that could be interchanged between platforms. cheaper production costs, increase profitability.

honestly, samsung is crushing the android market. HTC is just trying to gain some ground back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tamanaco:
I guess, like you, I also want HTC to be more competitive and with the HTC One X... I was going to jump back on to their wagon. I'm just very disappointed with the lack of storage. For me, the more storage... the more autonomous my Smartphone can be. 32GB without a Micro SD slot or 16GB or less with a Micro SD slot would have me going to AT&T for renewal next week. I was even happy that it was going to be a Dual Core instead of Quad Core as I believe that with the current state of mobile CPUs the more cores you have would undoubtedly result in reduced battery life.

Btw, my last HTC phone was a re-branded Qtek 8310 Windows mobile phone... one of the first Smartphones to hit the market with WiFi, Mini SD slot and a 1.3 Mega Pixel camera. It did not have a full keyboard, but its compact size for the time was perfect. After the success of this phone, HTC stopped to allow re-branding of their hardware. I loved that phone, but left HTC Smartphones for the Samsung BlackJack II with a full keyboard. I was hopping to get back with HTC with the One X, but I guess I'm going to wait and see what the GS III has to offer.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] americasteam:
I don't think it's HTC at all. AT&T wants to sell this phone at $199. I think they cut memory so they could meet this price point. I wish it had 32gb, but it is what it is. I hate the idea of cloud storage, but without the 2 free years included I wouldn't be buying. This comes from someone that doesn't use a lot of storage. Usually, I keep some music (4-5gb), a few apps/games, and frequently transfer my pics and vids to my pc. Who knows, Dropbox may actually make it easier on me.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] The_Zodiac:
dropbox has turned out to be awesome, not just because you back up stuff online.

for example its set so that it back up my pictures when connected to wifi (so i no longer lose pics when flashing roms).

and certain apps like to do list or notes (epistle) sync with my dropbox so i dont have to worry about losing them as well.

i have 19.4 gb free currently (by "referrals" you can youtube it but basically by using a virtual pc you can max it out).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rodger-sp:
I have the AT&T one XL here is the storage. 2.3gb for apps and 9.6gb. They had a frat phone and crippled it. The problem with using drop box is it eats data and google music is good but eats data.