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[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
I would say no....

Even if comparing the built-in apps, although ios is slower,but it is not the speed issue or ios capability, it is due to the ios animation design( the zoom in and zoom out effect duration) has made opening apps look slower.

In term of third party apps, WP7 has no way winning iOS, just cheap feel and slow sluggish,buggy....you can blame the developers....
[Windows Phone 7 General] FinancialWar:
who cares. WP7 is dead anyways.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Lol,mate,right time and right moment and well said...

because nowadays many users have leave this WP7 forum,due to the typical WP7 fanboys reply...

if you reply something like this in the past,you definitely will be getting bash,but now I think no one will care,because it is quiet here.

Gonna back to my silence state now,contribute too much posts(3 this week) to here already.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hatuna:
Now back to the topic...

WP7 IS faster than iOS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
Following some replies that made me chuckle..

Yes WP7 is faster UI than iOS.

Doesn't matter what zoom in or zoom out crap it iOS does. It's their UI transition by choice and if that makes it even 'feel' slower, it is slow. I am presuming all of us are here on the same page and agree that 'animations'/'transitions' are part of the operating system or the user interface.

Apps however aren't so nicely made all the time. Some apps are beautiful when it comes to transition whereas the others are as choppy as Google's OS. But then 3rd party app QC isn't top notch. If you use a WP out-of-the-box and compare with same iOS phone, you will immediately notice that WP is much faster, smoother and pretty on your eyes!
[Windows Phone 7 General] lamborg:
This

In general use as a phone, I would say both have the same speed and smoothness or perhaps windows phone 7 a little faster than iOS
[Windows Phone 7 General] madphone:
wp7 is one of the smoothest os ever made, but far away from being as fast as iOS. "smoked by windows phone" can't be taken serious. ben won some battles because there was a weather tile on the screen and thats faster than opening apps. but android has widgets too, and iOS can provide similar things in the notification toggle.

but apps which aren't integrated are slow like hell because they aren't cached as good as on android or iOS or they don't multitask. 6 months after mango release the improvents in app swithing can't be noticed in 'everyday' usage. that's not 'amazing'!

when you compare apps like board express with tapatalk, wp7 wins in terms of design. but the speed differences are huge!

or put a video on your wp7 phone, it will take ages just because the player doesn't support most common formats. and there aren't any alternative players, on iOS there are, even without jailbreak!

wp8 has to learn from android, only apple guys accept those limitations.

Windows 8 is awesome! metro ui is much more flexible than on wp7. i hope it will be similar in wp8. But windows 8 is fantastic, because you don't have that kind of limitations. if the player doesn't play a file, use vlc. if your browser doesn't play flash, use real ie or firefox.

right now wp7 devices would never win real speed benchmarks. even my almost 2 years old galaxy s would beat almost every windows phone in most tasks.

but i like windows phone none of the less, because it's unique and stabble, and has an always smooth browser!

but i think windows phone 8 might come too late. until the end of the year and the release of apollo there won't be any real new windows phone, not a single phone from htc nor from samsung. And the nokia effect couldn't equalize the loss of htc and especially samsung (in europe)

in the mean while android will have very cheap dualcores and wp7 will be stuck on snapdragon s2 chips from 2010!
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
The native OS is faster. Not much, as iOS is a very efficient system, but WP is definitely a little more efficient in my experience.

3rd party apps? Some are extremely well done and are just as fast as the native apps, but most are not coded efficiently so do have a little bit of lag as information loads, scrolling not perfect ect.

Developers definitely have the ability to make their code efficient enough though as there are plenty of examples of this. Lawrence Grippers BBC news and others. WPCentral app (Dev: Jay Bennet), Cocktail Flow (still best designed app I've ever seen on any platform), Windows Phone News app, Weave news reader, News360(latest version) ect ect ect.
[Windows Phone 7 General] creamy:
@ OP

Dont you think it would be a little wiser to research this question yourself on a search engine? surely some independants have done some investigation already?

Either way asking a question like this on an O/S specific forum isnt really going to get you anywhere is it, at best the answers will be biased even slightly and you will never get the hard and fast answer that you are looking for (if you are indeed looking for an answer ;) )

I'm wondering if you asked this same question in an Apple forum? and if so what response did you get?

Kind Regrds,

Creamy
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I appreciate what you are saying but I think you are being harsh.

What is not to be taken seriously about the "smoked by Windows Phone"? He won 30 out of 33 matches. He lost to an iPhone in one of those matches. In the ones I saw it was a mix of him picking the challenge and other people picking the challenge. Windows Phone is indeed more efficient at some operations and that is how they built the OS. This flows into my second point...

What exactly is a benchmark? When Vegeta whips out his magic goggles and reads "over 9000" what exactly does that mean? So phone X can draw more fish than phone Y, let me know how many people are going around drawing as many fish as they possibly can.

There needs to be an improvement in the quality of apps and I think people here will agree with you totally. Slow as hell seems like an exaggeration to me but I understand where you are coming from. On a sidenote, hell is hot and slow? I figure people would move around pretty quickly with their butts being on fire and all.

There is no such thing as too late once there is room for improvement. Android has issues and iOS is one phone a year. There is a viable opportunity for Windows Phone especially with the unification of the platform.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lovenokia:
use a second gen windows phone, all of the third party apps are about as smooth as core apps. There is a penny deal on the HTC titan that ends today you should check it out if you have att.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
LOL...

Back to be a troll eh?

Well, well,well, someone is mad because he paid for something he didn't want at first and now he is trolling all around...
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
It is not logical. At all. The silence of one voice will not cause the forum on a whole to be significantly quieter unless, like you said, that person was an antagonist. And it most definitely will not affect sales.

It will continue to be with or without one person's participation. And it actually will be a better place without the negativity. Quieter and better. But it probably eats people that do not like Windows Phone inside to read people express their fondness for the OS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
I have known that guy for ages.

he bought a Surround, and he is not happy with it, then he gonna post Sh!t about it.

If you want to compare, there is a big thread outside , comparing Windows Phone and iPhone 4S from hardware to software.
[Windows Phone 7 General] prohibido_por_la_ley:
My HD7 so far is the fastest and most stable phone I've ever owned and used. I haven't seen any slowdowns it freeze ups like those that occur in both Android and iOS. As for 3rd party apps, all the ones I use run great with the exception of board express.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Vegeta, lol. I haven't heard that name in years. What was that, a power reader?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Oh yea,dude,u have known me for ages...lmao,the device in using was HTC Mozart.u guessed surround is pretty close though.

I have been windows smartphone supporter since Dopod carrying windows mobile5.0and CE.I think u are pretty new here though.I have been active even since the wp7 is not commercially available.i even created a very high views thread that covering wp7 news.

The reason I'm unhappy with this platform has been posted over 50times,then the waves of new users have classify me as hater and even a Microsoft supporter&wm developer has been called as hater as well.therefore,this platform will just left to you guys maybe quieter and better.but definitely the development would be slower.

you made my day though,known me for ages and I'm using surround......lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Windows phone's O/S is faster then IOS.

Here is why.

Facebook built in - no app needed.

Twitter built in

Link'd in Built in

Windows Live built in

Camera button accessible from lock screen

Live tiles displaying information without accessing an app

Race any windows phone user vs Iphone to a full version of any website.

In windows phone you can lock your phone to desktop version. In the iphone you have to load the mobile EVERY time then hope they have a link for full screen. This is also why Windows Phone can do the full Web outlook experience, and iphone users are stuck with light which cannot access public calendars or folders.

Now remember also windows phone does all this on a single core.

Now apps. Basic apps - windows phone will win. It's simple. Metro uses less flashyness and more easy to read fonts and text.

More complicated apps or games IOS will win. More textures to load, processing needed, ect. That is where dual core helps.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
LOL... I know that you using a first gen HTC WP Device with small screen, but can't remember exactly anyway.

I have been in several flame war with you so at least i know about you.

You may claim yourself as Windows Supporter , but your actions show none...

I don't want to create another flame war over here.

HTC is making progress , but you just have your ultimate wants to be done like right away without any excuse, which can't be done by any means in short period of time.

I said again, you bought a device that you don't want, that is your fault. I bought an HD7 as my first WP devices, it has tons of Cons, but i still have fantastic time with it because i know what i am going to buy before i put the money in the table.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rapterj:
OS - WP7. Apps - ......depends on the app. Updates - WP7. By Far. MS doesn't reinstall the ENTIRE OS every other month for pointless minor updates. Also, MS is taking advantage of using multiple vendors to help deliver a unique and distinct variety to the actual hardware, as opposed to Apple, which uses a single baseline of hardware only updated about once a year alongside their major SW refresh (which usually makes the old HW start to go buggy and wierd). But, if you're looking for a solid development baseline, iOS is certainly "baselined".
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
This is not therapy since I do not see the comfy red couch but...

You used to be a Windows Mobile fan, and a developer? Fast forward to Windows Phone. You hate the direction MS took. You hate the OS.

So you want the whole thing to crash and burn. You will do your part by not adding to the discussion and development of the OS. So by doing this the forum will be quieter and the development will be slower.

Life really is short. You clearly still follow the forums and all your posts except for 2 marketplace entries are in this forum. Why not spend your efforts doing something you love, instead of towards something you hate?

"Get busy livin'..."
[Windows Phone 7 General] griba92:
Personally i HATE WF....i'm a tecnical phone and i can try WF and iOS.

iOS it's better than WF.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
Thank you for your insight.
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
So you joined the forum 10 months ago, and THAT was the first post you had to offer?

Why bother?

Not even sure it made sense either...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
Cool. SO you are a phone , you can talk and post comment to Xda, and specially, you can install WF ( i don't know what that is) and iOS to yourself and test them on your body...

Cool.
[Windows Phone 7 General] EnderPsp:
I think he meant WTF :)

Ontopic, ROCOAFZ made an interesting point but it seems people are comparing apples and oranges in this thread.

If you want to compare OSes, the test has to be done on similar power devices and there's no WP7 device at the moment to match the Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9 that Iphone4S is using. Also, testing a browser isn't testing the OS although it's a plus for WP7 who has native browser support. Serious testing challenges features, ergonomics, usability, speed on similar devices. There is nothing similar at the moment.

But all is not lost. If you insist on a comparison, there are still several out there, although far from perfect. That's because in the end, end-users decide what is useful for them and what their need is. Anyone making a decision based on anything else than their needs will end up regretting their decisions. See some comparisons here, here and here. There are others, these are in no way representative.

For me, WP7 is the winning choice over iOS because

1. I get to choose the brand (HTC, Samsung etc) and most important, the shape. It doesn't look exactly like my neighbor's phone.

2. It's cheaper (and has a very similar overall experience)

3. Live integration. Yeah, I play

One final thought: iOS and Android may have a good headstart but Microsoft is committed to Windows and this includes Windows Phone. Food for thought.
[Windows Phone 7 General] madphone:
I think there is still hope more major devs will bring fast apps when windows 8 is released. Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox Teams are working on Windows 8 Metro Apps. So there is the chance they bring it to WP8 and many devs will follow!
[Windows Phone 7 General] yeahyeahyeah1981:
As much as I love my Focus, your claims about the iPhone are not all true

-Facebook is built in to Mango but its very limited and lets face it the iphone app is miles better than what Mango has to offer.

-Twitter is built in to the iphone in many ways and the twitter app on the iphone is just better and more functional than the built in twitter functions of Mango

-Camera button is accessible from the lock screen in iOS 5 and above.

-The notification function in iOS provides plenty and for the most part much more practical info than any live tile does in Mango.

-There are several options to access public calendars and folders in iOS. Apps and native functionality.

I really do feel like it's a moot point to compare speed between the two devices. The latest incarnation of the iPhone (the 4s) just blows all Windows Phones out of the water in a general sense. It has the app advantage of android with better coded and functioning ones and the simplicity of Windows Phone. Aesthetics are entirely subjective but really I can't imagine that many people complain about the aesthetics of the UI in iOS. In fact, we all know that its one of the many selling points. Not too mention that the build quality on the iPhone 4s is superb. I doubt anyone with an objective point of view would pick up an iPhone 4s and any other Windows Phone and claim that the build quality is inferior with the iPhone 4s. I will give the auto-correct in Mango the nod though. Myself and others who use an iPhone on a daily basis can't stand the auto-correct feature in iOS. Which is, of course, a HUGE problem for many. Hell they have entire websites dedicated to making fun of it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
You don't give Live Tiles enough credit. Look at an app called CleverToDo and you'll see an example of what can be done that the notification bar in iOS cannot do.

I have to disagree on the UI if iOS. I personally can't stand its aesthetic. The more I interact with it, to help friends, the less I enjoy it. Again, that's a personal perspective.

I've got the Lumia 800 which does rival the 4s in build quality and visual beauty.
[Windows Phone 7 General] yeahyeahyeah1981:
I understand the potential functionality of live tiles but it is clear that the implementation of them is lacking. CleverToDo is decent but a little confusing at first. Somewhat non-intuitive I found but given some time Im sure it could work. Generally speaking live tiles seem gimmicky for the most part. Why do I need the Vevo app to flip? What good does a 1 popping up on my home screen on the email, messaging, and phone tile do? My lock screen already told me that info. Ive never actually heard an iPhone user complain about the UI on the iPhone, only non iPhone users. Pictures don't show up in the email app and instead I have to download them after the email is opened. That is stupidly imparactical. Bing maps doesn't find stuff that Google maps does. Safari in iOS is just as fast if not faster than Internet Explorer. The camera is much better than 95% of Windows Phones. I know Windows Phone users keep saying "wait, its all coming" but why would a person wait when the iPhone is already here. Microsoft is dropping the ball big time and it will be dropped even further when Windows 8 comes out. Once people abandon their PCs for a Mac which is already happening than the iPhone will seem like an even better idea.
[Windows Phone 7 General] yeahyeahyeah1981:
"It's because they've either left it for Android or WP7"

First of all what you quoted from me was not one of the silliest things you've read this morning. I know this because you can type which implies that you can read. Subsequently, both of these facts tell me that you are in fact, not an imbecile. So, because you are not an imbecile I can infer that my statement, which was entirely based on fact or more precisely, my own personal observations, was most likely not the silliest thing you have read all morning. Moreover, and perhaps more importantly, because of this inference that I have made through logical observation of your response to my post, I can with utmost certainty infer that you only meant to insult me which I must admit was a little uncalled for and probably not the nicest thing anyone has done to me today.

In response to your claim that people who don't complain about the iPhone UI don't do so because they have left the OS behind for Android or Windows Phone is somewhat ludicrous (in the case of Windows Phone) and purely speculative (in the case of the iPhone). Ludicrous, in that it would be a monumental challenge to accumulate any significant data shows that anything more than a miniscule amount of smartphone owners have left iOS as a direct result of using Mango and being that much more impressed. Speculative, in that I would surmise, based on the average individuals own circle of friends and acquaintances, that you yourself would not be able to claim to know that many people who have left iOS for Android. Although if you could I might allow you to make a generalization worthy of message board speculation.

Anyway, my Samsung Focus is a super nice phone that lacks in some features but in the end is still far more than I would ever need. Go iPhone. Mango is awesome. Wait til Windows 8 comes out. Apple is evil. Microsoft doesn't care about their customers. I'm typing this on PC using a pirated copy of Windows 7 Pro, pirated Microsoft Office, Youtube Downloader, uTorrent running in the background and 1800 pirated mp3s... oh and 130 gigs of movies and tv shows. Go Microsoft, you're winning!
[Windows Phone 7 General] EnderPsp:
@yeahyeahyeah1981

It's very easy to know why iOS users don't complain: at that price, they're either too rich to care or too brainwashed to see anything else. Nobody denies, what Apple makes are good products, however, you must understand that while a Rolls Royce is a good car, some prefer a Jaguar, others prefer a Toyota, others prefer Ferraris. Saying that Rolls Royce is better than a Ferrari or the other way around is speaking through the royal behind.

What you should ask yourself is: "why do I criticize other products and I don't say [this feature] or [this feature] is better on iOS because of this [reason]" (with emphasis on praise, not criticism - in case it wasn't clear - otherwise you sound like a hater). And if you even think about Siri, please don't bother posting.

Furthermore, I would certainly like to know how you determined that Safari is faster at the same cpu power and that the camera is better than 95% of the WP7 phones. And while I'm at it, I'd like to remind you that it took Apple [...] years to come with a decent camera. Fill that in yourself, and please stick to the facts, not what you *think* the facts are.

Here is a fact for you: browser speed comparison (and please note that the cpu is much better in Iphone4)

For the camera, I won't even bother. I'll let you prove the 95% if you can.

In the end, wouldn't hurt to read some iOS lovers' view on WP7... And do note the date.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
Personally I do hate with my entire body and soul the design of iOS: it's all about rounded buttons and gradients of colours. Every time I look at it on my old iPod touch it reminds me Windows Vista, wassup hipsters? Not so cool :rolleyes: The UI is also farking fat and steals a lot of the screen real estate pretty much everywhere. Especially browsing is pathetic: it's all full of stupid and fat bars up and down the screen, so that when you're browsing you're actually using a 2.4" screen. Cool eh?

Transitions are also super lame and boring, not to mention the retarded effect you get when trying to rearrange the icons, one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen. This is just my opinion, but personally looking at every single iDevice makes me want to tear my eyeballs out, I wonder what people think is so special about this OS, it looks as good as Vista IMHO. The design of the phone itself is really good, materials are top notch and all but the iPhone is way too fragile, and that's what matters the end of the day. My 2 cents.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
@yeahyeahyeah1981 - You miss my point entirely and instead opted to take it as an insult.

On the generality that people usually go with what they like... with what works for them... the odds are likely that you won't run into haters of a particular OS who actively use the OS. This being said, it supports my claim that you don't run into iOS users who don't like iOS, not because there isn't anyone who hates iOS, but because those who don't like it don't use it. They either don't use it anymore, they tried it and didn't like it, or they looked at it and disliked it from the get go.

As I've said... I don't like iOS. I'm not a user. I use it enough to support my friend's business and help her form comprehensive business solutions through their 3 iPhones and 2 iPads. That interaction alone annoys me.

If I liked iOS... then I'd be a user of it. Again, you're not likely to find active users of an OS who hate it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
Such an arrogant piece of **** would I call you if you were in real bragging about your piracy on this public forum. Hopefully it is not what I think it is. With the use of good English you were about to prove to me that there is someone who can provide some intelligent talks even if no sensible facts. But the climax to your post ruined it for me. Go get us some links to support your little post there. Meanwhile 'circle of friends' stuff - I have a family of 5 - all of us use Windows Phone. 3 including me moved from Android, 1 from iPhone, 1 from Samsung crap. Friends - I know 3 at work, who own Nokia Lumia. I know 1 at the gym who owns HTC Titan. I know 1 at the bar who had HD7 since day 1. Just because your friends are those who love shoving up expensive crap to show off doesn't mean you are right. However, I will be waiting for plenty of links from you to tell me you read more than the person you were bashing in your post.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
Congratulations on being a douche.