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[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Yeah! I mean did that Verizon wireless person think, "Gee, this lady is super awesome. I better leak the unlock tool to her!"? :confused::confused::confused:

Till she said that, things were at least a bit believable, but now, I am inclined to say that this is a bluff.

Oh, by the way, Ms. MischiefsMommy, if it somehow happens to be true, I am super sorry for doubting you and you are welcome to take appropriate retaliatory measures to punish me for my insolence! But, you must admit, you aren't making a lot of effort to make your story believable. Let's just say, we as a community have been burned (I mean Melvined) before, that we need to take extra care to avoid getting hurt again. In the meantime, I request you to STOP further discussion of this in this thread, since it is WAY off topic and as the OP, I have been kind enough to let this go on so far! You are free to start a new thread as and when you have evidence to prove yourself.

Let's keep the discussion here down to my and other people's complaints and filing of said complaints to BBB and the subsequent response from Motorola and Verizon.
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
Heymelvinhowsithangin'?

Melvin status has been achieved.

On a semi-unrelated note...

Forgot how smartphone friendly ovens were.
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
Okay guys for 1 I do have a 6 year old daughter who wanted to take a nap. For 2 I told you to look through out the form for my name not just this thread. For 3 if I cannot respond right away when you want me to I'm sorry I do have a family I need to tend to. Now I do have a problem taking the picture of the unlock bootloader because I do not have another camera around where I can take a picture. I mentioned in a previous post that if I shake the phone then I was the picture of the bootloader. I am not pulling your guys is chain.i would not do that. I don't know what you want from me. I've tried to do everything I can. Unless you can tell me a way that I can take a picture without having to shake the phone while I'm in the bootloader screen I have no idea what to do.

Edited to add if you go to droid forums.net or any other forums I have been posting on underneath the name of miss just mommies for years you'll see that I have not caused any type of problem at all superhead check them out.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Firstly, answer this. Does the "Bootloader screen" you are talking about appear while switching on your phone? Or does it happen once Android is booted? If it happens when you are switching on the phone, then sorry, there is no way to capture that screenshot.

Secondly, were you given any instructions/application that allowed you to unlock your phone? If you are unable to take a photo, the least you can do is divulge that information so that people like me and others on this forum can (a) test it, (b) take pictures of it (I have 3 other cameras!) and (c) worship you for the rest of our lives if this turns out to be legit. :D

So, please answer these 2 questions so that I may further assist you!

Cheers!

EDIT: MischiefsMommy, I am unable to locate a user under any combination of "miss", "just" and "mommies" at Droidforums.net. :/
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
I understand what you're saying and I would be in the same position not believing me myself. But I do have the proof I just need to be able to take a screenshot of the bootloader screen that I have periods but I have no way of doing that. It does not come up right when I turn on the screen. I need to talk ok I hold in the power

them upanddown on the volume control. That's 1 the bootloader screen comes up and it gives me a list of things work okay it's like the bootloader screen then there's a list of other things that I have a choice to make out of but I don't remember what they are this time. Can you not believe me fine I really don't care. Then I'm not gonna work on trying to get a copy of the bootloader screen that I have that way you guys can see.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
EDIT: I do want to believe you and any good news is very welcome. So, please bear with me and let me help you to get a screenshot somehow, since that is proper evidence.

Hmm... Your laptop, if you have a laptop that is, must be having a webcam. Or, hopefully your desktop has it, nowadays most of us do VOIP on skype. So, take a photo with one of those cameras of your Droid X2's screen... What say?

Btw, you still didn't answer my second question:

"Secondly, were you given any instructions/application that allowed you to unlock your phone? If you are unable to take a photo, the least you can do is divulge that information..."
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
No problem my cell phone is slow to get back to you guys. But I'm getting on my laptop. So give me a few moments.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
No problem. And while you are on your laptop, I urge you to make use of the camera on your laptop and take a pic of your phone's screen when it says it is unlocked. I am 100% sure all laptops (even old ones) have a camera.

Btw, do you have a Droid Razr? Because, based on your discussions on the Droid Razr community, it appears you have a Razr... Still, I hope this is still relevant info and good news for Droid X2 owners.
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
No i was not given instructions to unlock my phone. I was poking around in the verizon site. There was something there I dont remembwer what it was called. But when OOI clicked on it therre was a pic of my phine. there was 2 codes there one was 6 or 7b numberss long it was all 11111 then there was another code that was really long a mixture of numbers and letters. after that was downloaded that is when if I play iwth the phoine am able to get the bootloader screen to pop up. NO it iws not there when the screen is first turned on. I have to jold donw the power key and then do the volume down wait for a re boot then toggel the up and down volume till it comes up. I do not have any other working camers at the house and I do not know how to work skype. Hubby will be home at 11:45 tonoght if there is not overtime. I will post it then I am in oregon.
[Motorola Droid X2] antp121:
if your legit and not just melvin-ing us, i am sorry for what these people said. if your bullshiting us you can die in a hole. its as simple as that. we all have been ****ed over too many times so we all are VERY skeptical when a mysterious person runs in with hopes of an unlocked bl.

PS. wouldnt it be funny if they just sent the .412 leak again like melvin lol
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
forgot to add yes it is a razr.
[Motorola Droid X2] kenjesse:
Just an FYI... I came across this on My Droid Life about a razr owner that found he had received arazr with the boot loader unlocked, which he promptly turned over to a group of devs

Article is here:

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/1...ootloader-is-unlocked-devs-get-to-work-on-it/

So anything can happen....:D
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
I wouldnt think tht wsa funny!! but what I have i downloaded off of V website. I have been looking for it again but I am not able to find it. I am sure that it was under the area where the ringtones are because tht is what I ws having problems with at the time. When I clicked on it, a ADB was downloaded on to my computer and into my phone.
[Motorola Droid X2] antp121:
umm this is the droid x2 thread you know that right? if you do have an unlocked bl and its a DROID RAZR the kind from verizon you might have struck gold in the razr community. a person found an unlocked RAZR (international) but not a VZW Razr
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Care to post the files from your computer or phone? I am sure you still have them, so we could examine them in the meanwhile and figure out what is what.
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
would love to...

Ok I thinkI up loaded it. I hve ever done this so if it is not there the you will have to tell me how... Deal??
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
after this dpownloaded that is when my bootlaoder started to unlock

it does not do it all the time. But it does do it.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Okay. Thanks for the upload. Now, may I know what exactly you did after that? You must have run the "adb.exe" app. What did you do while running that app? Did you run any command like "fast oem unlock bootloader"?

<Secretly, I am thinking why you find working with Skype so difficult when you can work with ADB.EXE easy, peasy!>
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
um that just contains the adb files that you can acquire from the android SDK
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
im sorry ... hold on I will check the files again. BTW what part of IL are you from. I have lived in Alton Godfrey Arlington Heights and Palatine. =)

---------- Post added at 12:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:45 AM ----------

Ok So I get the cold shoulder now... i understand. I need to take care of my daughter again. It will bea lil bit be fore I can get it to you. as for the skype, I am not sure hoe to use it. Just because I can do the apks doesnot mean the I can work the skype program. You assume to much. You know what they say about assumeng. I really am begining to feel that you are treating me like ****.... I understand the way that yoi guyss feel. but why would I spend 3 hours lon this if I was lyong???
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
First off, I was just joking around that it is interesting that you can work with adb but not Skype. So far my tone has been that of concern and being helpful and I am in no way disrepecting you. I am very interested in getting to the bottom of this and though it is for the Razr, there may be chances that this happens for X2 as well if they did it for Razr.

Finally, the "why would I waste 3 hrs if I was lying" argument will not work with us because we experienced a guy who toyed with us for a full 24 hours before letting us know that he was full of crap. So, 3 hours isn't so bad if you really want a good laugh making innocent forum members fools. But that doesn't mean I am alleging that that is what you are doing. Just saying that this has happened before, so some of us will be skeptical.
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
Im sorry ... i didn't mean to go off like that. Im just getting tired and frustrated and i have a migraine. Let me tende to what i need to then ill be back. My name is Mary by the way.
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
im from central if that was pointed towards me
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
The number of email notifications I am getting from this thread is TOO damn high! :p

I am tempted to suggest creating a new thread to discuss this, but I think that will have a detrimental effect as people will start raising hopes and/or flaming saying it is fake and all... Let us try to keep a low profile by side-tracking and "hijacking" this thread, sure, why not! (slight sarcasm!)

<Crying a little that my thread's main purpose has now been totally derailed and gotten sidetracked!>
[Motorola Droid X2] antp121:
lol dx2 users- the BEST at getting off topic :)
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
haha i think were the best of getting off topic because we dont get exciting news like other forums, we have a handful of devs
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
So let me recap.

We have an illiterate Droid Razr owner posting on the Droid X2 forums about talking on the phone with a Verizon representative about an unlocked bootloader (even though Verizon doesn't do jack **** with android) for their phone, which is a Razr, even though she claims it will work for an X2 (actually she hasnt, she just posts about it in the X2 forums. The ****?). This person tells us that the unlock our phones, and it will come alongside an ICS distro at the end of April.

Okay, cool, I didn't believe a word of it, but that at least is a possibility worth considering. That is, until they posted more information.

So as we ask her more about why she's in our forums and why the Verizon rep would have this information (keep in mind, a rep would never have this information if even Motorola reps don't), and she drops a bombshell: she's got an unlocked bootloader. OUT OF ****ING NOWHERE. Not ONCE before this did she care to mention she was unlocked. This contradicts everything she said before this; why does she have it now if it's coming at the end of April.

Alright, let's move on.

So apparently, she found this bootloader unlock on the Verizon site. Again, this contradicts her own story in more ways than I care to mention. Not only that, but Verizon would NOT be in possession of such a tool. It's not as if they even know how to work with Android; they are a service provider!

And finally, she presents us with a file she claims she found on the Verizon site (which she did not) and that it will allow us to unlock our bootloader by entering (this is what I could decipher) a series of ones and then a string of 7 random numbers and letters.

K. I don't know why anyone is still trying. This is worthless. It seems I'm the only voice of reason whenever people try to troll us. This is what, the third time? Fourth? I can't remember.
[Motorola Droid X2] antp121:
haha thats too true. btw can you even get the file she posted open? it says unsupported file format for me on 7zip AND winzip... *COUGH* MELVIN *COUGH*
[Motorola Droid X2] kenjesse:
What do you mean we don't get exiting news... Just got off the phone with my Dad and the tumor that's giving him all kind of back trouble is benign and operable. Even if they have to shop around for a surgeon capable of the procedure.... Oohhh..ooohhhh I get it now you meant exciting "x2 Droid" related news... Yep I'd have to agree with you there.

But the news about my dad is true...:D
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
man thats awesome to hear! God can do incredible things
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
yeah i downloaded it on my phone and opened it w/ root explorer
[Motorola Droid X2] antp121:
BENIGN! sound like something a german man would scream :) oh oh wait we are trying to stay on topic... umm how bout this epic melvin shes pulling? lol
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Though I am as skeptical as you, I am just trying to play nice and see this through. I wanted to know for sure one way or the other. That is all. At this rate, MischiefsMommy may earn the status of "Beware Watchlist" in my signature! :p :D
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
UPDATE: Regarding Motorola BBB complaint

We are ACTUALLY back on topic! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Can you believe that!? :p

Back on topic. A very brief point I would like to make is that it has been about 24 hours since I sent a complaint directly to Motorola from their website informing them about the BBB complaint and asking them to reply to it. They said that they respond to emails within 24 hours. Now, those 24 hours are long over and not a single peep. And I am sure the office hours of Motorola reps is over too. So, they have all gone home, conveniently disregarding my email! The nerve! :mad:

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[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
OK... lets get something straight. I am not lying!!! This is what happened.d This is the way it happened. You were not here you piece of monkey **** so leave me the **** alone. I asked for some time explaining I needed to take care of my daughter I have a migrain. and to top it off I am chronically ill. I asked for some breathing room but are you giving it to me??? NO!! So if you want to go a head and keep hammering me saying that i lying go right a head I don't give a ****. The reason I started to post here in the first place is because you were talking about the bootloader. So excuse me for posting in the DX2 forum.... Ill try not to do it again. As for not being able to open the file, I was not the one that formatted it so don't blame me.
[Motorola Droid X2] antp121:
well if we cant open it either you did something or... not trying to be mean just stating the facts
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Quick tip! If you wanna keep things civil and don't want a lot of trouble, best thing is to leave someone's reply. If you do reply as you did, expect 100s of pages of off topic drivel on my already badly beaten up thread! :(

At this rate, Imma have to ask u to STOP this in my thread. Unfortunately, I don't have any moderator privileges so please start a new thread!

I have tolerated this for long enough! :mad:
[Motorola Droid X2] kenjesse:
THE BASTARDS!!

:(:o sorry that just kinda slipped out.
[Motorola Droid X2] antp121:
lite's laying down the law! btw back on topic, i got an email back saying they sent my complaint today. no further info though...
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
Thats fine not an issue at all. I know you don't believe me anyway. So it's not a big issue. Have a good night.
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
I dunno about you, but I've had chronic migraines for 7 years, and not a single one of them was weak enough to allow me to rage on the internet, not even so much as look at a light source. And the sound of hammering away at those keys, it must really pierce your skull.

I will keep hammering at you. You are under the scrutiny of hundreds of people dying to hear any good news about our phone. You provide blatantly false and misrepresented information and you expect me not to examine every little detail of it? Are you joking? I don't care what subforum you are on, if it relates to the bootloader of a phone, you will have everyone breathing down your necks. Either get used to it or get off the internet.

I am the only voice for all the people who are reading this thread, and are too afraid to post anything negative for fear of losing what could (and I use the term losely) mean an unlocked bootloader or and ICS distro released for the Droid X2.

How bout you go take care of that daughter of yours? Actually no, why don't you go lie down. Word on the street is that migraines are disgustingly painful. Judging by the sheer volume of rage I just got thrown my way, you must be in agony.

Hope your head feels better.

Love,

Alybear

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
Migraines what I suffer from. I have multiple sclorosis. You have a great night too.
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
..We already established you suffer from migraines. Join the club. They don't make you a buffoon who can't tell the difference between an unlocked bootloader from Verizon and an exe you likely found on your forums, so I don't understand your point.

Now before I continue, I will say that if you do actually suffer from multiple sclorosis, then I wish you luck, and hope you experience some luck with your treatment.

With that said, I don't appreciate you assuming that grants you some kind of free pass. My girlfriend has Huntington's. She is one of the 5% or so that experience it before their 20s, and never once has she used that as an excuse for anything the whole time I've known her. She'll graduate high school this year with honors.

A terminal illness does not an excuse make.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
so Litetaker

do you plan on contacting the BBB again about how you received not a single response from Motorola AT ALL concerning your complaint? just to make sure that it goes into the BBB report on Motorola and lowers their rating?

need to make sure that there is some kind of repercussions that Motorola will hear about concerning ignoring their consumer satisfaction / not responding to legitimate questions.

by the way, quit the petty Back and forth within this thread, personal/private messages is where that belongs, those posts had ZERO to do with Android, the boot loader stuff(whether trolling or NOT was at least PARTLY on topic, that crap afterward has no place in the open forum, show some class, to all involved...and NO, you AREN'T the "voice" for ALL readers if this thread /end rant)(sry bout that Litetaker)
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
Hungtingtons can be a god awful disease just as MS can be, i watched an ex gf's mom go down hill from it.. awful muscle spasms, awful speech problems.. not a way to go down

(sorry, im going to school to get my RN, figured id throw a side note in there)

also, i suffer from headaches, not migraines though, have since i was little so @mischiefmommy (sp?) and @theredvendetta i definitely feel for both of you
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
I am not in any way trying to make excuses. You're taking this way out into left field. I hope things work out for your girlfriend. Congratulations to her for graduating from high school. It is a very tough thing to have a chronic illness and accomplish things. I'm ending this conversation with you. Have a good evening.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Firstly, no need to be sorry, someone needs to tell them to stop being so childish.

Secondly, Motorola still has some time to respond to the BBB complaint. I was referring to the fact that they did not respond to the email I left them from www.motorola.com. They said they will reply back in 24 hours, but not a peep was heard from them. Nevertheless, I will give it another 24 hours, before I pester again.

Moto currently has till April 5th to make some noise with regard to the BBB complaint. After that, I'll try my best to punch the daylights outta them! :D
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
haha come to illinois (where theyre located) and do it, ill meet you there and help
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Ahh okay

I misinterpreted, I thought you had said they had 24hrs to respond to the BBB email or something like that, went back (way back lol) and read it again, understood now lol

don't give up the fight!
[Motorola Droid X2] MischiefsMommy:
Good luck with your rn degree. You're right ms is a very tough disease to deal with. I can only imagine what things would be like if I still stayed in illinois. I move to california before I move to oregon. It took moving to california to get my diagnosis. They kept thinking I was depressed in illinois. I did have 1 leasion on my bring that was huge. But they couldn't figure out what it wants. They thought it was a tumor pyrrhic because I have neurofibromatosis on top of the m s. So I was a big mess it they didn't want to deal with. Lol. 6 weeks in california and I have my diagnosis.
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
jeeze ash, can you not read?! :p
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
I hadn't seen his post requesting we cease until after my last post. I won't be raging anymore. Though, I disagree with your opinion of the "petty banter". While I could certainly have been more mature, I don't think you can deny that if that kind of garbage get's posted, it deserves a rebuttal, I don't care where it is. Misinformation like that without a proper response will only cause confusion and unfounded hopes.

And as to the "voice" thing, I'll put it in a different way:

I'm the only one with the sense to point out flawed logic. Happy?
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
thanks, im hoping to get through and be able to help with people who have chronic diseases

even though my heart is c the elderly and Alzheimer's Disease (idk if thats chronic or not though, haha)
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
Yeah, I've read pretty much all there is about it; not looking forward to the inevitable rapid decline people with it experience. Thanks though, and best of luck with your degree :)
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
thank you sir, youre honestly one heck of a guy
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Apparently Ash's ability to interpret the information was severely hampered due to the voluminous bantering going on here! :p

This is a clear sign and indication of Ash's, a well reputed XDA member, and my, a budding XDA member who happens to be the OP as well (who knew!), request, nay, ORDER to you guys to cut it out! Make a new flame thread or PM each other and fling some **** there! I don't care! Just keep this thread tidy.

@all: If ever you find yourself overwhelmed by the sheer off-topicness of this thread, rest assured I will post AND link all relevant material/posts from this thread in the OP. All you need to do is keep an eye on Page #1!

Cheers!
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
it may also be that ash has hit the sauce quite early