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[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
Well, if we're having a pissing contest as to who has more questionably obtained content. I've got over 1TB of movies and TV shows, 130GB of music (FLAC, cuz mp3's suck), and over 200GB in games.

I paid for my laptop, so my copy of Windows is legitimate. I'm sure MSFT isn't too worried about you, since they've got what... over 90% (?) of enterprise users out there?

Mods, feel free to delete this post if it's inappropriate.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
Windows Phone is faster, no question about it. IOS still depends on apps heavily just like Android. It wont be long though when you start to see the others adapt with similar technologies. Windows Phone will change the game.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
You're right!

It's not about benchmarks and specs. It's about integration and ease of use.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Ok, without sounding arrogant, lets break this down ... follow the different colors for my response
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Technically speaking now, they all depend on apps.

Built in or not, its still a app.

So, rock on.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
"is that a real kitten? that's not a real kitten. can't be"

wake me up from my social media induced slumber when the game changes.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Negative! They are not an app if they are built in.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/app

Apps are not native. Instead they are specialized programs downloaded to a mobile operating system.

It's short for Application program
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ no offense but you dont make any sense. congratulations on attempting to utilize the internet.

App =application, duh!

Everything is a application, built in or downloaded. Its still a application. What part are you not comprehending?

Phone app

Messaging app

Twitter app

Camera app

Rock on
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dinchy87:
yes you are right WP7 is faster than all the other OS in the world, just look at the smoked by windows phone challange :) and there is some other statement too, i dont have to restart my device EVER! i have it now 8 9 months and i never had to restart it because of some lags that IOS AND ANDROID HAVE!!! that the truth! and faster OF COURSE! try the day to day things that users do like sms, mms, pictures, facebook, twiter, email, office, internet, and i bet i beat every other OS. You can not compare something that other Os users dont have, like the samsung note now have something like interactive notes, that silly, who wants this to a day to day basis? no one! just try windows phone with the latest OS. something like 7740 or 8107. than you see what i mean!

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the last sentence is what i searched :) it not only rivals the iphone, it rivals all other phones in the world, it is a masterpeace of design! iphone ha snothing with design to do! thats the fact. ask some designer who is serious, and every single one would told you that the lumia 800 is superb! and not only rivals the iphone, it is classes better

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all devices are made to suite the needs of they're owner, AND NOT TO disturb the owner in his everyday life! thats why windows phone is the winner, its needed when you need it, and not like other Os that you use it because you feel its an tamagotchi that needs to eat (your time of life)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Windows is not an app,

Linux is not an app,

IOS is not an app.

If the app gets built in, it's part of Windows Phone so therefore no longer an app. Instead it becomes a service.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ wow!

is this representation of the level of intelligence, in this particular forum? I hope not.

You clearly named Operating Systems.

Anyway, to keep this from getting any worse , you win. Congratulations....

Lol, "if its built in it becomes a service,its no longer a app"....lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
You walked into this argument though, by bringing semantics into play.

You are well aware of the difference when people are talking "apps" vs. native processes (also apps) to achieve the same ends. You know the difference when someone is talking about the time/effort necessary to open/launch an app for the same information that an integrated feature can perform. The People Hub is a process/service already running in the background, waiting to be called to action. So, all of the integrated features of the People Hub are faster accessed than having to locate Facebook, launch it, and wait for it to load.

Speaking of OS's. Let's look at how Windows 7 looks at "apps", since you say everything is an app. Task Manager has three categories: Applications, Processes, and Services. If they're all apps, according to you, then explain to us they they're differentiated.

For that matter, why have multiple words for water and its different states, if it's all just really water anyway?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Coming from an android user (as per your sig) in a windows phone forum.

How is the integration still an app? They are all in the people hub. I didn't download them as they are "part of the O/S" and they are integrated into the pictures hub and more to share. Apps are things you download, install and can uninstall. They are not included. In Windows 7 for example, internet explorer is not an app. It cannot be removed. And if it was other parts of the O/S would no longer function. This is why MS got in trouble. For making there apps part of the O/S. On Windows 7 office is an app. On windows phone it is not as it cannot be removed and was never downloaded.

Here are examples of the true definition.

http://operationstech.about.com/od/glossary/g/Definition-Of-App.htm

Note in the above they say a computer program. None of the integrated are separate programs. They are all part of the people hub and Me Tile which is integrated into the O/S.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/app

Note above, a small downloaded specialized application. I didn't download any of those in windows phone.

This side discussion is not making the forum worst. It's actually one of the more educational posts when you aren't calling me names for making you rethink ;)

In IOS is the new twitter an app? I would say not. Is the calendar? Nope, built in. If you got a 3rd party one, yes it would be an app.

So therefore in a wrap up and attempt to get back on topic, windows phone is faster because it is not using separate apps to post, nor read from multiple social networks, unlike android and ios (except twitter now, which i haven't seen how they integrate it yet). You can check multiple social networks faster on windows phone at the same time then you can on any of the other phones, and post content to them all at the same time before each individual app on any other phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
Most people here still misunderstood Vet as Original Android user in Windows Phone forum , lol :D

he was an Schubert-Owner.

But this time i don't really get what Vet said. he might say that OS is basically multiple applications that are grouped together. (like Windows PC OS need to have some processes like svchost.exe running backround and when we talk about .exe, it is an application ), that is how i understand it lol.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Almost got it, lol. I said he wins no point in continuing.

By his logic, because calculator is built in its no longer an app, its a service.

Over and out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
yeah, you should have talked more clearly, lol...

Let's me make this clear for people:

the OS itself is the whole bunch off applications that are built and grouped together.

The kernel of the OS is designed and to be the center of those applications and it has the ability to "call" which application to be used on your demand.

Like now, you have your PC running Windows and you want to start IE (IE is built in Windows),the kernel will call the application "iexplore.exe" and run that process on your demand.

The point of making that statement, is telling you , that Windows Phone has a better kernel and Microsoft are doing a good job in optimizing the built-in apps. The kernel of Windows Phone has a ability to call and control the processes/apps that you run so it won't slow down the phone.

You might hear about "Windows Phone Agent" that control the apps running background - that is what the kernels of the OS do.

Basically, i understand if you don't get why the built-in app is not an app. Because most of apps (i said most , not all) are stand-alone in some kind of format (like Windows Mobile has .cab, Windows Phone has .xap) and install-able in someway.

But some integrated apps that are built-in, not always have in a stand-alone condition that you can install in any machine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hatuna:
No need to argue. WP7 is the fastest platform for sure. The rest is on your personal choice. Someone likes iOS, someone likes Android...

But saying they are faster only means you haven't tried wp7 yet.

It has a lot of cons for sure, but speed definitely isn't one of them. The OS itself is designed to be fast. No need to use too much brain cells about it...
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I love that this forum is now dominated by the trolls while us WP7 users are finally adjusted to only using the forums as a discussion place since unlike them our phones work upon receipt.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
I don't care how fast the CPU is.

I spent my day at a friend's store. She came out to the front and asked her business partner about the last name of that salon down the street. She couldn't spell it, so she couldn't find it online. By the time she was able to get back to her desk, I had pressed my search button, typed in "Wendy" and got several Wendy's locations and then the salon she was looking for. I was then able to share it in email and it was in her inbox in seconds.

This is why I like WP7. The things that need to be done for day-to-day living are just easier to get through and make more sense.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
Bing pulled out great result for US/ENG . But not like for a foreigner like me.

With Google, it has a sever all over the world, so we can access google from multiple address for each region like : "google.co.uk, google.co.jp, google.com.vn ..." blah... and it has like a mixed result between other nations websites and that region websites. Make people really want to use Google because of that.

Bing is a great search Engine system, but they really need to step it up if they want to be success
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Now your getting it. Apps are downloaded or installed. The calculator could be called an integrated application but not an app. Notepad is not an app either. It's part of the O/S as it comes with it. It is an integrated application.

Google notepad app. I bet there is NO reference to notepad in windows. Even google windows 7 notepad app. But... there are tons of downloadable apps that show up. Try calculator app

In Windows Phone, the People hub is integrated. Within it are facebook twitter ect. It's not an app.

On your android each of these are apps. You need to use windows phone more to understand it. Building it into the O/S will always be faster than opening an app.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
Just a different method to think "what is an app" , lol... basically, they are all exe - executable file. Nobody here is wrong, lol, they are both right , in different angle.

Everybody is happy now? lol.

I don't think any one, any Company have made this clear... so we are discussing something which is a "brain-hurt" discussion. L
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Hmmmm. No.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
This comment made my damn day. Props to you my good sir.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
Yep. It's a bit of a shame that we are forced to use Bing here in Italy, it's in its beta version in my country. It kinda works most of the time, but I'd rather like to launch Google when I hit the search button...
[Windows Phone 7 General] moose.splash1:
Windows is rubbish to me!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
Thanks for your input.
[Windows Phone 7 General] omarrq:
i strongly agree with you. and most serious phone users agree with you too.

hold up! android IS NOT fast. and its not as fast as ios. speed tests have proven this on an equal comparative basis.

again, android is the slowest os out there now.

this is bull****. wp7 is faster than galaxy on an equal footing. mind you, that the galaxy is android based which is a slow os. and youre not taking into consideration that the balaxy's specs are higher than those of a wp7 phone. if you put wp7 in a phone with the same specs as an adroid, wp7 will beat it in terms of speed, processing, and smoothness.. and this was proven under many circumstances.
[Windows Phone 7 General] madphone:
i'm talking about the old galaxy s with hummingbird cpu. why should samsung use a slower cpu in samsung wave 3 than in samsung wave1? snapdragon s2 @ 1.4GHz is over all definetivelly the better processor. maybe the adreno 205 gpu is a bit slower but that's it.

i'm running a sgs with android 4. in many cases it is way faster than the htc radar, which i have here two. for example answering a message in google talk or whatsapp. not speaking from loading times in games like hot pursuit.

but please don't mix up smoothness and speed. no os is smoother than wp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dinchy87:
my word s :) every mobile device is made to suite the mobile device owner. and not vice versa. the only thing what matters is how you use it in your life to make it easier and not heavier. thats where windows phone wins all phone right now on the whole planet! iphone 4s, galaxy nexus, galaxy SII, motorola droid, just look the smoked by windows phone challange.

and one more thing is, you have you galaxy nexus a couple of years, the man in the test in smoked by windows phone, works just for a "little" amount of time for windows phone, and wins against such "great" phones. The owner of the iphones and androids had few years to familiarise with the device, and the guy who works for microsoft a couple of months, so old is mango with over 500 new features! and they all have great specs, but when it comes to use this, it only uses 50% of his power, where windows phone is a device thats build to make the most of his specs. And theyre wins windows phone 7! look only at that fact that windows phone 7 user never had to reset theyre device because of that fact all goes like it should, thats is not a lie, that are real specs!!! you doesnt have to be an geek to know how to use windows phone, but you must be one to use android in everyday life.

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you challange your android phone with google talk wit htc radar with google talk on it? :S am i right? and why do you not challange the HTC titan II? hi specs versus hi specs? htc radar is a "low" budget" device... its new and cost right now about 200€, what costs your andoid? i think far more.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sentimentGX4:
Yeah, I have to call BS on madphone's Galaxy S benchmark statement as well. If you honestly think that ancient thing can stand a toe to the second gen WPs, you are completely clueless regarding specs. They all have 1.4 ghz Scorpions!

And, no, the Radar doesn't count. First, when you make a statement like that, you compare the fastest WP to the Galaxy S. Second, the Radar happens to be the only second Gen WP with a 1 ghz processor.

Also, I also have to chime in that Android multitasking is the worst. Forcing the user to multitask every app he uses is a completely ridiculous concept and its a drain on battery life as well and takes a serious toll on CPU usage. Apple definitely implements this in the best way and WP is copying the Apple model. There's no shame in that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] madphone:
it's not only with google talk, it's with all messengers, because they can run in background or at least cached.

my galaxy s is almost 2 years old, way cheaper than radar here in germany. but i must admit that it would never get android 4 officially, so it wouldn-'t be that fast.

what i wantt to say: with some real multitasking for a few apps like messengers (skype) wp7 would be the better faster system. but it isn't.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Coder247:
WP7 and iOS speeds i think is 75% down to the software itself, and 25% hardware.

if the OS or App dosnt take full advantage of the hardware it may not perform as well as say Android devices.

WP7 and iOS both work really well, with that said WP7 has a broad platform based over a few different handsets compared to iOS (i know stating the obvious lol), so to do a comparison you would really need to find a handset that closely matches the iPhone hardware specs and at the same time, some phone manufactures may not have enough adjustments to get WP7 running well enough on their device, Nokia is a perfect example to which they are rolling out updates to rectify some of the inperfections.

On the whole i think WP7 works really well, it has its moments but its come along way from what it use to be, its the same for iOS it has its moments but works well on the hardware its running on.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
Honestly gtalk for WP7 is pure crap. It's buggy like hell and crashes all the time. This said, I don't see why one should use buggy, badly coded and rushed ports of the google apps on a WP7 device in the first place, MSN and the facebook chat are effectively integrated and easy to use...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
LOL, just saw this and you are more than welcome sir :p

Have a good day.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
How does using memory make it less efficient than using both cpu and memory to reload an application ?

What is memory for ?

Wait, there is no shame in copying company a, but copying company b ... is shameful ? ((a) Apple multitasking and (b) the metro look of android market)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dinchy87:
yeah but look one fact, android is from google, google talk is from google, why should it be faster on a WP7? a windows x86 based microsoft app is always better on this PC instead of an ported mac version of the same app. google talk is from google, find something from microsoft to compare, google talk?you say skype? we have an skype beta for now, and it will be integrated like phone calls on GSM, thats about to come in 1 month or so. or instant messaging to all services i need, windows live, facebook, google, twitter, linkedin .... and so on, in just one messaging hub. you can not compare googles app on a wp7, why do you not compare a microsoft app on an andoird, lets say like microsoft office, do you have microsoft office on an android, i bet its faster on a wp7. thats logic. and multitasking is so far so good on wp7, its just a new system and they had no better ideas then, now they have windows 8 consumer preview. and the multitasking is gonna be something like on this w8, easier and better. and for now i have multitasking of my open apps that i used a while ago (10min, 30min, 1h, 5h, ago), i don't need an app that i used yesterday to stay the whole day on in background if i want to use it maybe today for 5 minutes. I have it on my start screen if i want to use it. and it open right away. its the same thing like multitasking, it takes the same time like if you press you app on multitasking and me on my start screen. but the apps and games run in background if you dont close it. if you press the back button for 1,5s it open all open apps. for now 5 or so but now comes tango update and the multitasking is gonna to be 8 or more i think.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Try Gvoice instead? it just got updated. I don't use google voice but i haven't seen anything bad posted about it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peperm1nt:
If apps are buggy, its the devs fault, not google or ms or apples... My two cents anyway. Everything can be coded and put on other platforms as long as said platform supports that language. Otherwise, you would need to build from scratch..

On topic, the Android phones are designed for processing power and multitasking. I think most android phones do well with this if rooted and ROM is built from source. Manufacturers cause the android phone to be slower and laggy.

I have an iPhone 4s, Droid x2 and I'm getting a HTC Trophy this week sometime. The iPhone is good with keeping lag away and multitasking seems slow. When I have to wait on load screens everytime I open an app, its slow. My x2(if rooted and a custom ROM is installed) will keep apps in background nicely to be recalled and the overall system consistency is very good. I have played with the Trophy numerous times and I liked it. The speed overall was good. I know the Trophy isn't the best, but I'm on Verizon and I still think it was satisfactory.

I may be confused on the main argument but is wp faster than ios or android... Depends on what you want! Here's my breakdown:

1) Android

2) WP7

3) iPhone

Why? iPhone keeps nothing in memory hardly and constant load screens in reopening apps although the system hardly lags. I liked the argument that within 2 or 3 clicks you know what you want which is why wp7 gets the 2 slot. One argument that was never brought up in that was Android has widgets for this, I can post to FB, look at voicemail, check banking account, and search the web without pressing a button! Well maybe slide from screen to screen or press hardware search, but that is why I think its faster in that since. The x2 is not the best android device available, nor is the Trophy, but they both prove to me to be the better device vs iOS. If speed = getting the information you need fast, android and wp7 stand almost toe to toe. Android pulls ahead due to linux's ability to multitask rather well... Keep in mind I said the android device is aosp, not what you see at the store.....my thoughts anyway.

Tapin' the Talk on the xSquared
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] V@no:
Hello.

I'm one of the hundreds who has problem with digitizer. In my case the right 10-20 pixels are not responding, so I can't enter letter "P". Is there a way trick android os that the phone has 10 pixels less in width on the screen?

Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Only thing I can think of is to use the keyboard in landscape so the unresponsive area is at the top of the screen.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] V@no:
Yeah, unfortunately not all applications support landscape mode *cough*sportypal*cough*
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crnkoj:
Search the market/gplay for touch blocker. Do so on a plane or on cm9 since it only supports hc/ics. That might help you somehow...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charankumarbr:
Hello All,

I am Charan Kumar, a beginner in android. I have created an UI design XML file. The design I have created shows all the components on a 3.7 inch display screen phone(default Nexus Phone in eclipse emulator). But, When I try on 3.2 inch and 3.4 inch screen phone, the components which are at lower part of UI are not getting displayed. The components are not getting fitted to the screen.

I am using "dp" to mention height, and "fill_parent" for width.

Please help me how to design an UI that displays all components on all phones, the design must be compatible for all mobile screens.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnAntony1988:
U cannot use dp or any other hard coded methods if u want the UI to work for all screen sizes.

I would suggest 2 options.

1. Use fill_parent n wrap_content only as view sizes and use weight attribute and margin and padding values to set the positions and sizes.

2. Else if u want to set the sizes preciously, set the sizes dynamically after reading the screen size from windowManager.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omarrq:
need to know whats the best games now.. i want to stock up.. haha
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HBS27:
Nfs hot pursuit

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