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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yiannisthegreek:
That is as easy to fix as a good "Samsung Based" THEMED ROM so I really dont know what YOU are talking about.

I own both devices and truth be told... As much as I like my GNEX I still prefer my SGSII over it for so many reasons. Truth be told... The only reason I am using the GNEX as my daily driver (especially now that the SGSII has been updated) is because of the screen AND THATS IT.

When the SGSIII comes out then I will be in my glory!!! Oh and before anyone here jumps down my throat about I should just sell my GNEX or whatever... just STOP before you say it. I like my GNEX but as far as Im concerned... GOOGLE and not SAMMY missed the boat on this device especially with the rumored specs of the SGSIII which is due for release in the next few months...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GunnerMC:
the gnexus from sfr are pure android ics, no branding at all, some of them are simlock and that all, this site "echo du net" is just saying bull****, they don't even know what they are talking about.

Edit: The guys from sfr are saying that the intel of an update to 4.0.5 came from the manufacturer (i.e. samsung ?) so no adaptation, testing or whatever, they are just transmitting intel that they get from the "manufacturer".

"We are just relaying the information provided by Google and builders!

It is not our fault if the update is delayed!" SFR, check the comments from here
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I've had the opposite experience, I prefer much more about my GN than I do the I9100; not that I disliked it. Haven't heard good things about LPQ, hopefully Xplodwild is making good headway on the source-less kernel. I would like to run a fully functional CM9 (video cam, etc...) on the I9100 before I sell it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
OH EM GEE GUYS

WE ARENT GETTING A 20mb UPDATE

QUICK EVERYBODY SELL YOUR PHONES

GOOGLE HATES US

THEY DONT CARE

WE WANT BUGGY SOFTWARE

THE WORLD IS ENDING!

smh...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GunnerMC:
So we don't have the right to ask for a litle bit of communication from google about a device that we bought 500€ which is buggy (and if you don't have any issue then good for you) ?

Don't tell me to sell and buy a another one coz it is not that easy, custom rom ? please...

The lack of communication from google is not normal, the fact that they always release beta stuff and sell them as final versions is not normal as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
This must be your first Android device then if you think that is not..."normal'".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Q N1NJA:
Agreed, upgraded from Nexus one and it still amazes me how people still feel they are owed premium service just because they paid full price for a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Best 650 I ever spent, if I could marry my phone, legally, I would.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] OniV2:
Buddy, when I owned the SII my daily driver was CyanogenMod 9. On the SII, it simply doesn't compare to anything on the GNex- seeing as it's limited by god awful buggy stock kernel for 4.0.3 on that device. Other than CyanogenMod 9, which is being developed by a third party and not CyanogenMod (last time I checked, Team Hacksung was working on it), all other ROM developers are wankers in that forum. 'Themed AOSP' ROMS are more like 'here, it's the wrong shade of blue with all stock Samsung APKs, enjoy'. The only decent developer broke his laptop and started pining for donations due to being unemployed.

I assume you like flimsy devices that are heavily locked down?

The hype is going to kill any 'amazing' specs it may have had. Really, speculating about the SIII is like when Apple fanboys speculate about the iPhone 5. Unrealistic expectations.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
It's a blurred line, Codeworkx is a Team Hacksung member, but also part of the CM team. Same goes for Nebkat IIRC. The SGS2 is on official nightlies (well not every night) now. Xplodwild is working on a kernel currently.

I agree on the quality of the ROMs in that forum for most part, aside from CM, and a couple of others, there's not much "original development" going on, aside from Oxygen which isn't posted on XDA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schizrade:
Yeah I have never had any of these issues either. 4.0.4 VZW here. Best phone I have ever owned.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GunnerMC:
I think you missed my point.

It's my third android phone, and i don't thnik that it's normal for a "mature" OS to be at the same point as 2 years ago about these updates, especially for a nexus.

There should be some improvements now, but unfortunately there is none since i bought my i7500.

When i read you all i feel that they don't need to improve anything since there always will a load of fanboys like you to justify anything. Sadly we just have the os that the users (fanboys) deserve.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soutaiseiriron:
Are you crazy? The SIII's rumoured 8 core Pentium 2 Exynos is amazing. It's rumoured to effectively kill cancer cells upon purchase if applicable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] OniV2:
I'll bet it turns into a hot chick and brushes your teeth too.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soutaiseiriron:
The possibilities are endless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ljwnow:
Lol hilarious
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ruimoura:
This thread is a good example of why Android is somehow doomed by users ... some people think (no, they really believe) that the world is all about guys installing roms and geek stuff on their brand new Android phone.

Guess what? It's not. 99% of users just want a phone that works, and that's updated without the need to know ninja tricks and Odin and Clockwork and sh#t ... get real.

If you guys want to have a phone to mess around, install stuff, whatever, please, be my guest (i do it myself on my Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy S), but try to think for a minute that the world outside is somehow a lot different than what you think.

And yes, Google is messing this all update strategy thing on the Galaxy Nexus. They had to be clear about updates, what's going on, why the f#ck the Nexus S update disappeared, etc, etc, etc ...

By the way, i love my Galaxy Nexus :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] virtualcertainty:
Agreed on all points, especially the last.

Edit:

One thing that hurt the Nexus early was all this nonsense about regional builds being Samsung/Carrier controlled, which is utter foolishness. People running around saying you have to flash yakju to "turn your Samsung phone into a Google phone" or because you won't get "Pure Google" updates. This seriously hurt sales because the entire point of a Nexus is that you don't ever need to modify anything to stay up to date. And the updates will come when they're ready.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You say this, yet have no proof one way or the other. JBQ made it quite clear that only yakju and mysid were Google supported. NOBODY knows about the variant yakjuxx's. However, the fact that nobody knows, and coupled they are kept in a samsung_proxima instead of google_maguro ota folder, sure does make people think it is not Google supplied.

They don't have 100% proof, but yet, neither do you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] The Gingerbread Man:
I did hear / read about Google making a new nexus tablet to launch jellybean, this could consuming a lot if resources, or you never know we may get bumped up to 5.0 before everyone else even sees 4.1. I'd love to see the people faces who sold their nexus and *****ed constantly and point and laugh till I piss myself! Of course I have no proof of this, just wishful thinking :rolleyes:

I'm perfectly happy with my nexus as it is, I love it!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
This thread is a good example of why humanity is somehow doomed by uninformed buyers ... some people think (no, they really believe) that the world is all about informed buyers knowing what they are buying and accepting what they bought instead of some "could be" hope for the future of their brand new Android phone.

Guess what? It's not. 99% of users buy things uninformed, and assume a phone just works and if it does not it will perfectly in the near future, and that it is updated on their timeline, not the company in charge of it.

How it should be:

An informed buyer does not like what they see or hear, and WAITS until the phone or device is in the condition they find acceptable. People who buy things in the now, hoping they will be happy in the future, are foolish. You NEVER buy a device hoping it will make you happy in the future. You buy it for what it can/how it works do out of the box, or you don't buy it and wait until it does make you happy. I have no sympathy for the complainers who bought their phone, had issues, and kept it anyway. For those who blindly bought imports that cannot be returned, well, shame on you for not waiting and doing a bit more homework. Chalk it up to a learning experience.

The early bird always catches the worm. Always. There is no such thing as a perfect first run of anything.

Yes, I used your own words and changed them a bit. It is 100% true though.

Take note future buyers:

This is how a purchase should make you feel, out of the box. If it does not, it is your fault for purchasing the device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
Now when you rant on something like this, do you mean issues as in not getting the latest version of Android or legitimate issues that prevent the phone from even functioning properly?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
I am pretty sure he was talking about users complaining about the device not working properly from the get go, or at least how users want their device to work.

Personally, I love the GNexus, yes it does have some faults but nothing that makes this device anything less than the best phone I have ever owned.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jnix08:
I loved my stock Nexus for doing everything except making phone calls. I've only had the phone for 2 weeks and every phone call I made or received would be dropped at least 3 times in the length of the conversation. I had one call drop so many times that I said screw it and just texted the info back and forth. Not a good look when my Phone can't actually make phone calls...

Against my original plans, I had no choice but to flash 4.0.4. last night, even though I wanted to stay stock 4.0.2. and follow the proper update path from Verizon...knowing that I'm getting consistent updates and knowing that forums like this one has more dedicated people than I who are willing to fix these issues and add on to new releases is the only reason this phone didn't instantly go back to Verizon last week.

Delaying updates and constant improvements is not a good look, regardless if you plan on using them or not. I didn't plan on going to 4.0.4. but the unofficial release has seemed to fix my dropped calls issue, without the help of any service provider. Hopefully 4.0.5. isn't delayed and it fixes issues that I might not have, but others have to put up with. I couldn't care less about having the "latest and greatest" but when the phone seems to have some of the issues that it has, for those of us who are inclined enough to mess around with it, its nice to have the options.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
It does not matter. You purchase a device for how it is, out of box. If you are not happy, return it until the bugs get worked out. What sense does it make to keep a purchase that makes you unhappy as-is, and hope it will be fixed one day? Maybe I am just weird, but to me, that is insane.

I have made poor buying decisions in the past, but I never blamed anyone but myself.

I bought the phone, knowing it would have bugs, seeing them when I opened the box, but I really like the device. I would not return it. As a value added note, I know that there will be more frequent updates than other devices. However, even without that, I am happy with the device. Am I happy that it has bugs? Surely not. However, I take the bad with the good. If it never saw another update again, I am still happy with my purchase.

I am not saying people do not have issues. I am aware of it. I am not saying that people are not upset because updates are slow. I am saying that you never buy something for what it could be. You buy it for what it is. What it could be is value added and should be considered as nothing more than that. If you really want a device, and it has issues you consider dealbreakers, wait until they are fixed before buying. If they are never fixed, then congratulate yourself for dodging a bullet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
So in the 15 days of purchasing this device I was supposed to know that the loss of outgoing audio is actually a bug in the software and I was supposed to return it because I knew Verizon wasn't going to acknowledge it as an issue? I had it only happen probably two times within that 15 day period. I mean yeah I know **** happens, calls get lost and what not. I get that. I live and breathe technology every day. It seems to have gotten progressively worse with time.

I'd love to know your opinion if you were in my situation faced with a phone you purchased expecting it to MAKE AND RECEIVE PHONE CALLS SUCCESSFULLY and it doesn't. For you to criticize others about them purchasing this phone and then complaining after so many days of troubleshooting/phone calls to tech support/help over the internet and Verizon/Google/Samsung isn't acknowledging it as a problem is ignorant. Just because you don't have any problems with your phone doesn't make everybody else stupid and wrong for buying it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
If I were you I'd see what the return policy is on the phone. With my carrier I believe there was a 15 day return/exchange policy. Since you're at day 15, check it out, QUICK.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If I saw that bug within my 14 day return policy that Verizon has, I would have returned it. That is my stance. I would not hold onto it hoping Verizon will fix it one day. If I was past my 14 day window, I would send it in for warranty replacement. IF that one didn't work, I would keep doing it until they gave me another device.

For future purchases, I would wait and watch to see how the device works before being an early adopter.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yes sir. I put my devices through the MOST GRULEING paces during the return period. 14 days isn't a lot, but it should be more than enough time to identify dealbreakers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
That's just it. I had it happen to me MAYBE TWICE within that period. Was I supposed to know it was a fatal bug in the software? And come mid march there isn't any support from any of the companies on it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Twice. In a 14 day period. I would have returned the device. Once is a fluke. Twice is not.

On a side note, why do you think the frequency increased after that? The phone doesn't have an automatic "**** on me after 14 days" feature. Honest question.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jnix08:
This in a nutshell is basically my experience and as of this morning, my 15 day return window from Verizon has officially expired. The last thing I have time for is to go back and forth with Verizon when I feel I can maybe spend 15-20 minutes and fix the problem myself. Getting those updates from Google makes that possible.

If I was an average consumer, I would be swearing off android phones at this point, my OG droid had a countless number of issues that I had no choice but to fix myself, Verizon and Motorola had no interest in helping. Having a strong dev community is the #1 reason I still deal with android phones, and having updates delayed stalls the development community, simple as that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
Well I'm glad you have 20/20 hindsight. You would have known it was a device issue and not a random network issue/area network issue/solar flares/whatever. You knew you had to get rid of it because you would have been stuck without support of any of the companies that produced it. Everybody should just come to you for help about anything since you can see into the future.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ZeroBarrier:
This world is doomed; but it's not by uninformed buyers, it's by people who lack common sense. And why call it common sense if it isn't common anymore? We should refer to it as logical sense from this day forth; but I digress. I do agree with you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Don't be angry with me because you dismissed something as a fluke and didn't take it up with Verizon.

Like I said, twice in a 14 day period is not a fluke. Its an issue. If there wasn't an update within your 14 day period that fixed it, you should have returned it until Google fixed it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Sorry but I have to agree with Adrynalyne, I would have taken it back and at least got it swapped out. If the device is not working properly in the first 14 days what makes you think that for the next two years it's going to magically starting working okay? I understand how you could be skeptical, but like I said I would have at least got a replacement to make sure that this was an ongoing issue and not just as you said, some random, out of your hands, occurance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boe:
I (not sure about others) would like an OTA update every time they fix an issue. If they improve I would be fine with an OTA update every week if that is how often they tweak battery, signal, screen, voice dictation, keyboard....If they fix the battery life this week but don't get a chance to fix the weak speaker this week, I'd like an OTA update. If they improve the speaker next week but don't get the signal fixed go ahead and give me another OTA update...

---------- Post added at 07:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:30 AM ----------

I was foolish enough to believe that about the EVO 3D. Everyone said - just wait or it is only you. Went through 3 of them and then I could no longer return it. Several months later I got the ET4G on the same carrier and it worked great but the carrier's data was just too slow - wherever I went. Verizon's data speeds are 4 to 20 times faster wherever I go on my GN.

I don't seem to have that many issues with the GN but I've had it less than a week. However, on the EVO 3D I had already encountered enough issues that I was ready to get another one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
Like I said before, given you were in my situation your attitude would be a lot different. Plain and simple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Since it appears you have a 14 day returns policy you stand a good chance of sweet talking them into a return or exchange. Don't call, do it in store if possible, that way you can choose your 'mark'.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
I didn't see you edited this post.

Well yesterday it happened on all 3 phone calls I made in a row. Now if it had did that in my 14 day period, I would have known something was up. But it didn't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Why would I be in your situation though?

If it happened tice in my 14 day window, I would have returned it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
My wife is 100% stock (until I updated her to 4.0.4.) Before then and even now, she has never had this issue. I had this issue on an early device, but I replaced it, and have never had it happen again. I know the issue exists, but I wonder what sets it off. A developer friend of mine got his last week. He is stock 4.0.2. He has never mentioned this issue to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haydonxda:
Are you just being a pain or is Verizon's network really that reliable? I'm on AT&T and have all sorts of call issues unrelated to my device.

Given just two isolated events in a 14-day period I'd be hard pressed to name the phone as the culprit.

But as to the main point, I would expect a device to work as advertised. I would not expect (although that no longer seems to be realistic) that I should have to dedicate two weeks of my time to beta test a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Voice wise it is. 3G wise it is. LTE is not stable, and when Verizon gets close to a network upgrade somewhere, things tend to get unstable.

Truthfully, we don't know its not a network issue. However no other devices have reported it, and myself, my wife, and my good friend do not have the issue (I dont know anyone else personally with a Gnex).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Except for he didn't have to dedicate two weeks to beta testing, he needed to see that his device had an issue, replace it and see if the next device had the same issue. If it did, then it is a device issue, if it didn't then it's a network issue. How hard was that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamHart612:
They won't warranty exchange it, despite not being able to use it as a phone? That's some BS. Complain until they remedy the situation.

I can't say I have a single one of these issues on my GSM Nexus. Hasn't once dropped a call, never have I seen it reboot, and battery lasts all day and more. In fact over 13 years with Tmo I can probably count my dropped calls on one hand. My fiance is a major complainer but has never said one negative thing about her Vzw Nexus. I just wish she would let me root/rom it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
People will tell you otherwise, but yes they will. A showstopper like not being able to use it like a phone? Sure they will. The problem is, there are good CSRs and bad ones, like any company. If one says no, some people take it as gospel instead of calling back again or talking to a manager.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yiannisthegreek:
Wow... I guess you didnt actually read my post did you my friend? I said to just NOT start in on me about having my own opinion about the device that I PAID FULL PRICE FOR being my GNEX as I do LIKE the device but I feel that my SGSII is better in alot of ways.

As for the SGSII being a flimsy locked down device... I have the International SGSII Unlocked and never found it to be "locked down" nor "flimsy". In fact, I would have to state that the build quality on my SGSII is just as good if not BETTER than the GNEX - REAL Gorilla Glass for example on the SGSII as opposed to "Gorilla Glass LIKE material on the GNEX". There are LOTS of good Kernels to use and LOTS of good firmware as well IMHO so I am not sure why you feel that the Dev's in the SGSII forums are (as you put it so delicately) "wankers"...

Now if you want to talk bugs then lets talk about my experience with my GNEX and again I state that in SPITE of these issues I have had with my GNEX that I still LIKE the device...

- Data / Signal Loss on the GSM version. I have a Thread in the Q/A section here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1487239&highlight=gsm+signal which had at last check over 5000 views and over 100 responses which shows that this is not an isolated issue. NEVER had a signal issue of anykind with my SGSII.

- Crappy Wi/Fi. I live in a small apartment where my Router is in my livingroom and my bathroom and bedroom are no farther then 10 feet from the Router and as soon as I enter those rooms I drop from 3 WiFi bars (I have NEVER had full WiFi bars on my GNEX) to 1 WiFi bar and constantly loose signal. I NEVER have this issue with my SGSII NOR with my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (as reference).

- Slow loading apps. Facebook as an example takes approximately 10 + seconds to load on my GNEX as do many other apps I have installed and this is both on WiFi and H+ Data. These SAME apps open with ZERO lag at all on my SGSII.

- Terrible Speaker / Volume. I dont know about anyone else but for me, unless I use an app like Volume+ on my GNEX the speaker is just not loud enough. Again... I have never had a speaker issue with my SGSII either.

There are more that I could list but I wont and again... IN SPITE of these issues I do LIKE my GNEX, I just feel IMHO that my SGSII is better in MANY ways and that is MY prerogative my friend since I did pay for my device so if you dont like it then DONT read it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Hmmm.

So blame the phone for stuff that interferes in your home, be it objects or in the walls? I have a wrt160n which is nothing great. I get wifi throughout a 2300 sq.ft house and even outside if I stay near the house. True I do drop signal...if outside. I also never have full bars unless in the same room, but I don't care because I get good performance regardless.