yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] grindnmosh:
if you just unroot and RUU your phone to 2.08 and follow step by step its cake. My wife bricked her own phone while we downgraded her phone and rooted her phone together. she is not very good with electronics and following directions she did it. so to OP and start with an unrooted stock 2.08 phone and you will have no issues. Thanks again unknownforce for downgrading 3 3Ds in my house and many more I have seen across the forums. Unknownforce is a true pioneer.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
I also couldn't get the PG86IMG.zip to work. The only way I got it to work was to download the RUU.exe and extract the rom.zip from that and then rename that to PG86IMG.zip. For the final 1.13 RUU, I just used the .exe.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Unknownforce: you are the m***** f****** man! I finally got it bricked after a few hours and some monster energy cans. After that it was smooth sailing. I am now on hboot 1.40.1100 s-off. My next quest is to find out if there is an engineering hboot available for this phone, or does revolutionary install it already?
[HTC EVO 3D] mingolianbeef:
I have Linux dual booted on my pc, and while I would love to use this and have the confidence and knowledge to do so, I prefer not to, as the 3D is my only phone and I don't think my girlfriend would be cool with this excuse LOL, great job men, cheers to you.!
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
For real! Unless I'm completely missing something, I haven't even heard of a 1.10.651.2 o_o
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Lol, just something I dug up, from my secret stash of HTC Dev files, ya know... ok seriously I'm going to bed before I make up something even more corny.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
:) anyway lol I'm about to try this out on a livecd. will post back!
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
This would possibly help with "writesecureflag" bricks as well correct? If said person was on an eng hboot and tried to "oem writesecureflag" then brick.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I loaded the 2.08 .zip file, it passed verification (I also tried with 2.17 .zip file, but it didn't allow me to update)

then, i swapped sdcard which has the 2.13 file

I continued updating, but it flashed the 2.08 file and i'm still not bricked...

I double checked the androidversion.txt and they are indeed 2.08 and 2.13... but hboot only updates 2.13 file

Maybe i am missing something again..
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
yessir

10char
[HTC EVO 3D] PTown599:
2.) Remove your battery cover, and Plug your phone into the A/C Outlet (NOT USB, it won't stay powered via USB) then PULL your battery out and leave it out for the rest of this guide. Then Boot up to the bootloader (hold down volume down and press power) it will scan the zip image and then ask to update, let it sit there like that,

do not update yet

.

3.) Take your SD card out and plug it into a PC (or if you have a second SD Card use it here, and simply swap the sd cards) and delete the PG86IMG.zip and

then load the 1.13 zip image

on it, again calling it PG86IMG.zip
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I did rename both files to PG86IMG. I just downgraded to 2.08 (from 2.17) and used HTC Dev unlock since my friend needed his phone back tomorrow and it is very late here.. Thanks for your support!
[HTC EVO 3D] PTown599:
You want lower than 2.08, 1.13 for example, is what you wanted to load.

Best of luck if you give it another go.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Yes this will restore them as well, just start from the Linux part the rest doesn't matter, since its already bricked.

This is correct. You start with 2.08 to pass initial verification, then sd swap to 1.13 to brick the device.

And yes I'm having trouble sleeping lol. :(
[HTC EVO 3D] PTown599:
Too much excitement I suspect haha.

Great job to you and everyone involved. Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
So theoretically if we had all the proper images hboot,radio,etc we could recover from other types of brick... Only if those bricks would send the phone into emmc mode. And if they all do we could almost to go as far to say if we had bad blocks/sectors it might even be possible to reformat/re-partition the emmc entirely. Granted a good dump of emmc and all the proper partitions and tools would be required. Technically it is letting us write to the emmc, so there is no write protection? Or am i way off base here?
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
do we need to relock bootloader before attempting any of this?
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Yessir :)

Possible being a key word with the repartitioning though. I don't have a spare phone to sacrifice so I haven't been able to test anything yet myself, but if someone is able to brick with a bad radio flash and still use this method than it should make it "unbrickable".

But again, I haven't been able to test anything myself though so there are a lot of assumptions there.

I think so, I don't believe it'll let you flash a RUU/PG86IMG with it unlocked.
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
Sweet... Your very right about all the possibilities and assumptions.Ever expanding... Its kinda weird to see unfold i've been watching the sensantion thread for a while trying to get my phone in emmc mode to no avail. Lol our "Unbrickable Mod" is to Brick the damn thing....possibly.

@freeza maybe flash enghboot and oem writesecureflag...if yer feelin frisky...
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
Is it immediately supposed to power down after selecting update with the 1.13 image on it? It is attempting to update a slew of things on mine rather than power down

EDIT: NVM, I got it =x
[HTC EVO 3D] .Elite_The_King.:
I guess everybody is really excited.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
It apparently is copying the first PG86IMG.zip (2.08) from the SDcard to somewhere temporary on the phone, because once i remove the sdcard at the update screen and plug in the 1.13 one and press the volume up key to update, it continues flashing 2.08 as if the sdcard isn't even being read.

I have verified that i have two different zips because i am using two different microsd cards and the filesize between 1.13 and 2.08 are 399MB and 400MB respectively.

Not sure what I am doing wrong :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Genesis Nova:
Eng hboot for Evo 3D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192306
[HTC EVO 3D] johntheman_692003:
will this work with windows?
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Thanks so much!

---------- Post added at 04:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:37 PM ----------

Some of it does, you will still need to use Linux or Mac to flash the hboot 1.4
[HTC EVO 3D] dkdude36:
just linux. couldn't get it on my mac. then again i only tried once with no troubleshooting at all. so maybe it does.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
update 3/21/12

do not brick your device if you are s-off, the device will not go into emmc mode as expected, and you will have a true brick in your hands!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] dkdude36:
oh noez who has a brick?
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
First, many thanks to Unknownforce for the working downgrade method.

I was glad to see this post today when I woke up. Unfortunately, I'm all outta play time until the weekend and had to bookmark this for later. Thanks for trying to make the linux part easier.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Good to know. Hopefully that didn't happen to you.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Not me. Feel bad for who it did happen to though :(

But I guess at least it wasn't for nothing, we now know that's a definite No-No. I'm having him try a few things to try and get it to trigger the correct mode, but I'm not optimistic at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] jhuff83:
Looking forward to this expanding. Hopefully by Sunday there will be even more expansion on this and I will get the nerve to downgrade the wifes phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Don't worry, there's not much that can really go wrong. The only hard part is bricking it. The blinking light brick drove me nuts until finally I counted 1,2,3,4 and pulled the AC cable. That finally did it for me. after that it was piece of cake and I'm finally s-off.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
By the way, I have no problem with anyone developing "Easy" ways for any part of this.

I can add this to the first post if you think it's ready, I don't personally have time to test it right now, and won't for a few weeks if not longer, work has picked up significantly, working overtime and now starting a few side projects, kind of came out of nowhere, but I'm digging it...

Anways... If we have enough stories that it's working as intended, I'll put this for step three.

I personally am working on a better way for linux to detect the correct device and avoid having to use multiple windows to do the third-step, then you could simply boot a super basic linux distro, with only this single thing running, waiting for the device, you wouldn't have to even type anything or click anything, simply boot till it says waiting, and plug the phone in while holding vol down, it does it's thing, and you get downgraded and continue from there.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Yeah, just don't wait till it start flashing radio or something like that and pull it... cause that's probably not recoverable...

But, also be absolutely sure that you are S-ON... being S-OFF and bricking your device results in a TRUE UNRECOVERABLE BRICK. Already one person has found this out the hard way... Do not increase that number please. (By the way, he didn't realize that he was S-OFF when starting, so don't pick on him, it was an accident)
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
That sucks. I was going to ask what the point of trying this would have been if you were already S-off. I thought maybe you guys were trying some more crazy stuff out. Accidents like that suck.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Yeah, all he was doing was taking his phone in for a speaker replacement, which he thought they were just going to replace the whole phone, so he re-upped, to go back to stock, And then after hearing they were just gonna replace the speaker, he figured, OK just downgrade back and start over... well... he didn't realize that he didn't actually do the S-ON flag... so yep, brand new door-stopper.
[HTC EVO 3D] OfficialLocdoGg:
After succeeding my device kept randomly rebooting and shutting down while not connected to the a/c adapter. Sometimes I would have to pull the battery to be able to restart my phone. I think this has to do with the hboot being 1.40.011 so I downgraded all the way to hboot 1.40.000 to see if this helps. I also reformatted my sd card because old fragments may have remained from the old system or hboot. Then I used the Infected SuperWipe zip to try to totally clean my system. I will let everyone know if it works for me in case anyone has the same problem.

This has never happened to my EVO 3D until I did this method.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR S-Off!!!

EDIT: I'm having trouble using revolutionary to get my bootloader to say Revolutionary after switching to hboot 1.40.000. I think this is because I already have root so I'll have to unroot and see if this fixes this issue as well even though I don't know if it matters...
[HTC EVO 3D] grindnmosh:
Had same issue till I ran Freezas all in one 2.17. Run that you'll be good
[HTC EVO 3D] OfficialLocdoGg:
Can you post a link to that?
[HTC EVO 3D] ccaudio1:
heres the link to that thread: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21374142&postcount=131

didnt want to link it to the download directly. just so you can see what your flashing.
[HTC EVO 3D] OfficialLocdoGg:
Thanks man. I'll check out!
[HTC EVO 3D] ccaudio1:
just flash it and that should fix your reboot. had to do the same to stop the reboot
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
What program/utility could I use to make a bootable USB from this .iso? I tried unetbootin but it gives me a garbled screen after the initial menu selection list.

Thanks! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
DL'd and ran the LiveCD 1.5 just to check it out quickly (didn't try the downgrade yet). Definitely instills more confidence in me with the linux part.

* It is easier to create the terminals and have it waiting to push Hboot 1.4 to the phone since all the files are there and terminals are setup for the correct directory.

@Closeone,

I think it would be a good idea to add/quote the remaining steps from Unknownforce's OP as a text file on the next version of liveCD so that a reference of the steps are close at hand:
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
After dual booting my windows with ubunitu or whatever how u spell it, I accomplished hboot 1.4 yahoo. I'm excited yay lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Thanks to everyone that has mentioned the Boot CD.

If you use it, please let me know how it worked for you! If you can't post here (because you're under the 10 post limit), please PM me. I need to hear if things worked for you, or if they didn't. If they didn't, please tell me what error(s) you receive so that I can fix the problem.

Questions about the bricking process are better directed here or to Unknownforce. Any questions about the CD are probably best directed to me.

@mpgrimm2 - Thanks for the idea, I'll make sure to incorporate that into the next version.

@johnsonjs - At the boot menu, press F3, and select a different video mode. Hopefully that will help you a bit. Also, I noticed that you quoted the old post. If you aren't using the new version, I would recommend it against the old version.

@Unknownforce - Thanks for this. Would you like me to break boot CD talk off into a separate thread so that topics don't get so mixed?
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
I had to run Revolutionary a few times, over and over until it finally came back as revolutionary S-OFF

Also, your system reboots and what not, are probably being caused by not doing a complete full wipe, download a zip to fully wipe the device, system, boot, data, cache, dalvik cache, everything, then flash a new rom. Should be golden after that.

Whatever works best for you
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Give LiLi a try.

Ah, I misunderstood the problem, and didn't realize closeone had already responded.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Okay. Thanks Unknownforce. I'll go ahead and leave discussion in here for the time being. I'll break it off to a new thread if it gets too crowded. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] husker91:
I cannot brick this thing for the life of me, I let it detect the PG86IMG.zip, plug in charger, pull out battery, click volume up and count to 4/5/6, pull the charger out of the phone, plug it back in and there is no light ever, not even blinking. Am I doing it wrong?
[HTC EVO 3D] GrandWorks:
Try it even if the light doesn't come on. It can take a bunch of tries to successfully brick. I tried more times than I can remember before I got it to work.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
It's definitely the most tricky part of this whole shebang, I've heard to watch for a status bar in the upper right and to pull it as soon as you see it even flash there.. I personally just count to 5, as soon as it says the word Updating, I start counting.

I have heard of some people getting it to go into the correct mode, even though it's not showing the lights or "appearing" bricked.

You can just try step 3 on it, the worst that will happen is that it simply won't find it because it isn't in the right mode, so just re-try the brick and try again.
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
Like a dumb ass I attempted to try the down grade with s off because my first attempt was partially successful.I achieved the downgrade but was having issues gaining root. Anyways I was getting tired and its.gettin late so I tried to start all over again not realizing I was in s off mode but back to hboot 1.5 long story short I got to the final step in the downgrade process and realized my phone is probably perma bricked. The last command in ubuntu wasn't executing and all I got is a red led to show for my efforts....6 hours later. Anyone have any ideas on how I can rescue this device? I know its a long shot but I thought I would try.....
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
Im having an issue with.tacoroot and obtaing root any suggestiins
[HTC EVO 3D] OfficialLocdoGg:
I did that multiple times and even tried the ruu again... I always wipe everything after doing anything major or flashing roms... It hasn't rebooted yet after I flashed the all in one firmware... The Revolutionary tool is actually failing while trying to root but I'm sure I know how to get that to work again...

I do notice an error however when I do a wipe... I'll wipe again tomorrow and share that error...
[HTC EVO 3D] husker91:
awesome it finally worked! The light never did show up for me though... weird. Successful 1.4hboot!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] cas8180:
Had the same issue that's exactly why I tried to start over.I did try a couple of other methods first though I tried to use fastboot and flash a recovery but that also failed.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Doh... That's number 2 now... There is no known way of recovering from this... Having security off makes emmc mode unavailable, so you can't bring back the hboot partition. Sorry bud, I wish there was something I could do :(

Try re-running the RUU to go back to full stock, also remove HTC Sync if you have it, and Enable USB Debugging.

I'd like to see what that error is... But it's also possible that you were getting that because of the firmware, maybe downgrade back to 1.13 RUU Stock, re-revolutionary so that it shows it properly, then do the full wipe, then install your rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
Question the pfone will still work on version 1:10 if i cant brick it right?
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
The Mainver is just cosmetic. It wont affect anything.
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
I can not get the mainvet 1.10
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
Your ROM has to be rooted and your bootloader unlocked. Not sure about needing to be unlocked, but definitely rooted.
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
Im using tacoroot
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
And im followimg directuons to a t
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
Can anyone help my wifes fone is bootlooping after i couldnt get mainver to change from 2.17 to 110
[HTC EVO 3D] I_Am_Lorde:
So do I use this with the boot cd or just this alone? Thanks in advance!
[HTC EVO 3D] z50king:
wire trick? is that a button?.... or are you shorting something out?
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Comparing the pic to the Sensation, it appears to be shorting a pin to ground VIA the Sdcard connector frame.
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
I can verify that it can be loaded via PenDrive Linux, and selecting "Try Unlisted .iso" at the bottom.

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

I'm not sure what linux version it actually ie: OpenSuse 12.1 KDE i686 ? but the "unlisted" option works.

@Closeone, you may want to include Pendrive Linux in your DL link. (Thanks to wwjoshdew/di3turbed1 for the pendrive link).
[HTC EVO 3D] cash525:
Not sure if vb can be used
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Virtualbox does NOT work. it only passes windows Detected USB Devices, it does not pass what's plugged into the port properly.

By the way, that user... that posted those pictures of the "wire trick" was me. And I never got it to go to EMMC Mode by doing that, I only got it in Download mode.
[HTC EVO 3D] AndroidUzer:
hboot 1.4 w/ s-off and questions about old nandroid back-ups

Now that I have 1.4 and s-off. I now have some questions about the old nandroid back-up I mages I made when I was still HTC method - unlocked w/ hboot 1.5 & s-on

Will loading one of these pre hboot downgrade nand back-ups affect my current 1.4 hboot?

And a follow up question will loading my last pre hboot downgrade nand back-up that contains all the updated current radios update my current outdated radios to the point the nand was made?

Any input is welcome and thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
If the backups were from the same device, then the restores will work without a hitch.

If the backups were from a DIFFERENT Device, They will still work, but you just don't restore like wimax, only system, boot and data, and don't restore cache, it's just bad karma.

But sounds like you're talking same device, they should work just fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Hi there Cbelflower321. I'm sorry, I may have ordered my instructions in a way that was unclear. For this, all you need is the download in the post you quoted. That is the boot CD. It's just a newer version. I pointed to the old post for some background.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
DL Mode is separate from EMMC Mode. (They actually happen at the same time)

EMMC Mode is what mounts all the partitions of the EMMC so that they can be written to/read from and that's the one you need to re-flash a different hboot, because the hboot lives in the EMMC.

DL Mode is limited in it's usefulness, from what I've gathered, it's more for diagnostics, it's kind of misleading.
[HTC EVO 3D] I_Am_Lorde:
Thank you very much!
[HTC EVO 3D] Royalfox:
Would this also work if I boot from a USB instead of a CD?

PG86100
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
Yes this should. See mpgrimm2's post here.
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
Can anyone confirm tacoroot working for this?
[HTC EVO 3D] doeboy711:
I did the Tacoroot method on mine. I was already rooted through the HTC Unlock method, but I could not get step one to work. So I had to re-lock the bootloader and flash the 2.17 RUU. Once completed, I was able to run the tacoroot method with no issues.
[HTC EVO 3D] wileout:
Sweet ill try it again thanks man
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
thats what i did
[HTC EVO 3D] leo72793:
nevermind. 13th worked -_-
[HTC EVO 3D] OfficialLocdoGg:
I'd like to see what that error is... But it's also possible that you were getting that because of the firmware, maybe downgrade back to 1.13 RUU Stock, re-revolutionary so that it shows it properly, then do the full wipe, then install your rom.[/QUOTE]

The error I get is when I do the "Wipe Data/Factory Reset" in ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0. The error is:

-- Wiping Data...
Formatting /Data...
Formatting /Cache...
Formatting /sd-ext...
[COLOR="Red"][B]E:format_volume: make_extf4fs failed on /dev/block/mmcblk1p2[/B][/COLOR]
Formatting /sdcard/.android_secure...
Data Wipe Complete.

Any idea what this is about?
[HTC EVO 3D] bigwillyg:
The error I get is when I do the "Wipe Data/Factory Reset" in ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0. The error is:

-- Wiping Data...

Formatting /Data...

Formatting /Cache...

Formatting /sd-ext...

E:format_volume: make_extf4fs failed on /dev/block/mmcblk1p2

Formatting /sdcard/.android_secure...

Data Wipe Complete.

Any idea what this is about?[/QUOTE]

That's normal, it tries to format sd-ext but it doesn't exist.
[HTC EVO 3D] OfficialLocdoGg:
I know there is usually an error while trying to format the SD-EXT but I have never got the error on "/dev/block/mmcblk1p2" before I did this. It use to say "Skipping sd-ext"
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Not sure why it's trying to do 1p2, but that partition doesn't exist on our phones, that's suggesting that there is a second mmc chip, this wipe zip you have seems to be for another device... I suggest getting another one.
[HTC EVO 3D] OfficialLocdoGg:
It doesn't happen with the zip it happens with recovery but I have concluded that it causes no problem. Also after wiping my sd card and flashing the all in one firmware zip I have had no random reboots. I think it was the firmware.
[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtunleashed:
I have concluded, after switching between TWRP 2.0RC1, clockwork 5.0.2, and clockwork touch(many many.times), that TWRP 2.0RC1 yields successful flashes far more often. This is true both before and after down(up)grading from hboot 1.5 to 1.4. My thanks to unknownforce and teamwin!
[HTC EVO 3D] lcars123:
So I tried this and now my phone won't boot at all after Step 2. In Step 3 using the Live CD i get the return code 256. Please Help.
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
Take the battery out and try again. Leave it out while you do the LINUX portion
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
Start all your terminals with sudo -s or all your commands with sudo or type su to begin with, you need root access for it to work.
[HTC EVO 3D] closeone:
This is the second report of a return code coming from the Live CD. If this continues to happen, go ahead and go through with a different boot disk until I can get this sorted out. It is Non-Fatal, and should work with a different distro. I am really sorry about this, and will try to issue out a fixed disk as soon as I figure out what is wrong.

Thank you all.

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I would like to make sure. Has anyone successfully completed the downgrade with the HBOOT Downgrade Toolkit Live CD that I posted?

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Edit: I made a mistake. Unknownforce beat me to it. I'll have a fix out ASAP.