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[Fascinate General] ebenze:
I tried that. But it fails on copying /efs/nv_data.bin. I assume this is b/c the file is in use. Is there any other way to copy nv_data.bin?

Ok so to summarize (please confirm if this is all correct):

Use S1C to get root

Use TB to make a full backup (Backup all user apps & system data). Is there a better backup option to use?

Use Odin to flash Darky's directly (do not require to go through the SpeedMod hoops).

I did a quick search, but not sure which is the right DarkyROM/kernel version to use with this phone. Do you have a link somewhere?

I also think I finally fixed my mental disconnect; I did not realize that the custom recovery mode was part of the kernel. Which is why you want either Voodoo or SpeedMod to have the CWM recovery. I was under the impression that the recovery console was independent of the kernel. I did find a thread that discussed a CWM.apk , so I'm still a little confused. Does this mean I can install CWM outside of the kernel? Or is that specific to working with an i9000 based kernel?

You may also want to update post #2 of this thread to indicate that you can use S1C to root GB 2.3.3 now instead of having the 8 step process to get to GB root.

As a separate note/question, does the version (ex: ICS, GB or Froyo) refer only to the kernel that is running? I had always thought that it encompassed the ROM as well, but from what I can tell now, the ROM is somewhat independent; ie: it may depend on a GB kernel, but it is not a GB ROM itself.

Thanks! Really appreciate all the help getting my head wrapped around this stuff. I can install PC OS'es ad nauseum with my eyes closed, but for some reason, the phone OS just seemed to escape me a little.

Eric
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
So this is really odd. Make sure you have all the root options turned on in ES (mounting system as well as making it editable). Long press on your EFS folder, select copy - than navigate to somewhere on your SD, and select PASTE. Just tried it and it worked flawlessly.

OK - TB is great but it is recommended to NEVER restore system data - especially when flashing ROMs as the data may be in conflict and you may brike your phone. Its good when on the same version of anything, but I use it mostly for restoring APP ONLY so there are no issues when moving in between ROMs and how they like to store and access data to run the applications.

For Darky's go directly to the DarkyROM site - they have tons of how tos. You do not need speedmod, in fact you can load Darky's up from Odin - so even on an unrooted 2.2.

Latest DarkyROM for our phone is I9000 10.4.2 I believe. It has its own kernel, but I flashed a semaphore 9.5 (I think) and that worked on 10.4.2. Been a few weeks since I ran that so forget some stuff.

It is an APK you can do it - it likely modifies the stock recovery on the stock kernel. I have NOT read the thread and no of no one that has tried that. So I would approach with caution.

So post #2 is for loading an ICS ROM - so you need recovery, and you need the GB loaders for things to work properly - so you still need speedmod. Rooting is easier for sure with S1C but to get to where that thread is intended, you still need speedmod.

The version refers to the Android code being used - ICS 4.0.x, GB is 2.3.x, and Froyo 2.2. It does encompass the ROM as well as the kernel.

Know how you feel. I do a lot of linux installs so some stuff is familiar but the phone is its own beast. What is funny is even Android tablets are a bit different - I have a transformer and thought it would be the same - but they have their own idiosyncracies as does every device - its what is both GREAT and CRAPPY about Android - the vast array of devices :)
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Supports your t959d? Do you have a link?
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
I actually like the fascinate - once you realize you can flash I9000 (which is the international model) ROMs to it - it works great. Much better than having a device which has little or no support.

Any new device, obviously takes the devs a while to come online and start modding - me, next phone, ASUS padphone I think ;)
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
*forehead smack* I had completely forgotten about that option. :) I turned on root options in the settings and it copies fine now.

Ok - thanks for the confirmation. That's what I had found here, I just wasn't sure if it was specific to our phones, or if Darky had a generic naming convention and running 10.4.2 might be a ROM/kernel for other phones as well. It mentions it is for the Samsung Galaxy S & Samsung Captivate (codenamed I9000 / i897) but wasn't sure that this counted as an I9000 if it was in out-of-box shape (I do realize that it is an I9000 branded/tweaked differently).

Fair enough warning. Out of curiosity, what is the worst that can happen? Can it potentially brick the phone? Or with the jig can you always get back into d/l mode to reflash another kernel?

I understand, but from my understanding, the first 8 steps are intended to root a GB phone (ie: 8 flash the stock kernel via ODIN to have a working phone again which is now rooted GB woot woot). Consequently, I would think/expect that using S1C now, you could skip those 8 steps since you can jump directly to having a stock rooted GB kernel (with GB bootloaders, etc)

Thanks,

Eric
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
That's the one - you'll want to do the keylayout fix if you flash darky's but we can cross that bridge when we come to it. Its in the first couple of posts here :)

No idea to be honest. Bricking is always the worst. The jig should save you, but remember for every Superman there is kryptonite.

Thanks I had to re-read that and you are right. Actually, I should tweak that first part is really about two things - getting GB and getting EFS backed up - so I should rewrite that in general as there are parts you can skip if EFS is already backed up, etc.
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
Yep - I saw that already (and read it in a couple of other threads as well).

I also ran across this CF-Root thread in the i9000 forum which seems to indicate that it is able to get CWM working on a GB kernel. But I'm not sure if that would work on our phones or not given that all his kernel numbering is J* and the stock GB kernel I have on my phone is GB.LKG2. I noticed you sig says Baseband: T959TJL3. My phone lists Baseband as T959TLKG2. Is this the modem version? Related to the ROM? I noticed that LKG2 is the same as my kernel number and my build number.

Silly question; do you know if any of the custom ROMS include the Swype keyboard? I've become quite addicted to it and don't know if I can go back to a regular keyboard anymore.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Eric
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Yep, that is my modem :) Modems ate usually firmware (android) version specific.

Darky's has the swype keyboard, not sure about others. It is downloadable from the market as well.

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[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
On that CWM thread - looks interesting but never tried it. The J* stuff --- I believe --- is related to the Samsung firmware versions. Not sure how to map that stuff up... Tried once then needed BEvERageS.

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[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
@ebenze what S1C version did you use on GB to root it?

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[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Also quickly read that post on the CWM.apk and looks like it's specific to the semaphore kernel. You could try it but not optimistic that would work.

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[Fascinate General] bucknetbucky:
I looked at it too and seems to be for restoring the cwm go a specific version. I would not recommend it unless you have cwm installed already and rooted. Maybe I missed something but I wouldn't try it lol. As much as our device is equal to the i9000 there are still a lot of differences and need to be careful.
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
The latest one - SuperOneClick v2.3.3. Like I said, took about 5 mins. Had 3 or 4 40sec pauses built in, but otherwise worked smoothly.

Strange ... I don't see it on the market (play) anywhere. The only place I find it is the beta program on the swype site, but the betas expire after a while.

Thx,

Eric
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Thanks I'll update the post.

My bad - totally thought it was there - it is not. you may be able to find an APK for it on the threads. I use swift key x so don't use swype at all. Slider keyboard you may like as well as it has swype capabilities. Darky's I'm 98% sure has swype (or that you can install it via DarkyOTA) as it is based on the samsung ROMs.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Updated ICS ROM post

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[Fascinate General] bucknetbucky:
OK so about Slim .....

I do not use alot of apps so there is little to talk about there but the ROM itself is well ..... the same as any ICS ROM really.

Overall the ROM is smooth and have had no issues with SOD or freezing or slowness. I changed to the nova launcher instead of the stock Zeam (I like).

Battery is the same as the others. Turn off what you don't need and it lasts forever. I turn off data and WIFI and sync. I find this is the battery saver no matter what ROM you are on but with ICS it makes a huge difference. Data on when I need it and WIFI when in range, sync only if I add a contact and manual get mail. This is the battery life saver.

I did decide to try the semaphore kernel and the newest one caused SOD and randon freezing so I am currently running the 0.9.1 and no issues at all. I am not over clocked but have, as long as I don't turn on DIDLE it is fine (I don't think our phones like that).

There is an ASS (Advanced Slim Settings) option that has some interesting things like lock screen options but they do not seem to do much :(

So all and all .... It's the same old same old ICS as I am sure everyone is using either CM9 or SGSICS as there main source and adding their own thing.

I am looking for more options to try so stay tuned to the same bat channel at the same bat time for more nocturnal excitement.
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Got a link for that?
[Fascinate General] Dayfid:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1747042
[Fascinate General] spacekobra:
Waiting for call/sms to work. I don't feel like wiping twice in one day

Edit: oh, it does work now. It didn't last night.

I'll give it a shot when I have the time. Currently, I do not...
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
What did you do? :)
[Fascinate General] spacekobra:
I flashed CM9 and then started messing with the kernel and modem and a few scripts before the initial boot. Apparently this is a bad idea, nothing worked...

So I had to wipe it again and start over. It's especially annoying for me because it costs me 3 dollars to access data because I don't have a plan so after each wipe I need to remove the sim card.

By the end of this week, I will have flashed Jelly Bean, just not in the mood for another full wipe. I just got my phone tweaked to where I like it.
[Fascinate General] xenonrider:
Finally got around to putting CM9 on this again. Everything is working great. Thanks to those that helped.
[Fascinate General] spacekobra:
Congrats. I'm just all-out ready to try, jelly bean
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
So what are you running with CM9 - what kernel and modem?
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
If the next version of Darky11 (they already released the other planned ROMs) for I9000 has Jelly Bean in it - I will probably give that a solid kick :)
[Fascinate General] Ipse_Tase:
OK, for the record :)

I had some time to test diff modems in 2 locations, one that gives me -95-103dBm signal and one where I had NO signal.

Tried KC1, JK4, TLJL3, KG3, JVU and found NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER in terms of signal strength or data speeds.

I will stick with KG3 simply for the fact that it seems widely deployed in Canada and has 850MHz enabled by default.

My conclusion from this test was that OLDER modems might have had variations, but since the KC1 era the modem code did not change. I could be wrong, but like I said, I found no visible improvements (or degradation) by changing the modem alone.

Hope this helps others to stop wasting time like I did :D
[Fascinate General] yuanw:
Finally, I did a ODIN with "re-partition". It won't delete internal SD.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
You should try GPS as well - I've had modems essentially think I was *somewhere* else - even with my gps.conf hacks in place.

All that being said, I believe KG3 is an excellent choice - I personally found the TLJ one to be very reliable especially in rural areas which I find myself in more often than not (still cannot figure out why my daughter's piano teacher's basement is a dead zone though LOL).
[Fascinate General] yuanw:
Oh, I soft bricked my phone. It can't get in download mode. any one can confirm the usb jig will work for T959D for sure? I ordered one from ebay. Hopefully it can save my phone.
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Works for sure:)
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
+1. Usb jig, don't flash without it
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Well, successfully on Jellybean here. So far haven't encountered any issues but I'll let you know bumps I run into along the way in case anyone else is curious.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Definitely works and it can save your phone. Once you get into download you can load up stock (2.2) or even a Darky/Alliance Resurrection Edition which are meant to be loaded through Odin.
[Fascinate General] Matt5606:
That's not "the" jelly bean is it, as in the next android edition, or is it just the name of the Rom like darky or whatever?
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Indeed it is "thee". I've been playing with it now for about an hour and all I can say is it's pure awesome. Google Now has crazy voice recognition as far as I've tested and everything works flawlessly so far for me.

Only reason I decided to flash it today was cause I broke my foot and am somewhat housebound and bored. I was going to try it out then flash back to slim but I see absolutely no reason to go back at this point...

Link in case you're intrigued: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1775169
[Fascinate General] Dayfid:
That sucks that you broke your foot. Ow. But is everything working on CM10 though? Any lag?
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Finn - so is the voice capabilities and everything working? Can you post some screenshots?

I saw that TotallyDubed flashed an early preview - I wonder if DarkyROM will incorporate it in a next release. Voice looks WAY BETTER than vlingo!
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
So my observations after roughly half a days use are as follows:

Initially everything worked, awesome. But then things have started to creep in such as issues with media, specifically ringtone and notification sounds. They are all there in system/media/audio however my notification has gone to silent on its own. And in settings I cannot select any of the other ones unfortunately as they aren't showing up as options. I've done clearing caches and media rescan's, fixed permissions both in recovery and manually through root explorer. No dice as of yet.

Not the end of the world but a drag for sure. This is a fairly large rom and that being said, I've only got 15mb of free space on the system partition. Normally wouldn't really care but I'm pretty sure this is part of the reason that it's not quite the "butter" experience that should be happening. I believe there are some datafixes out there just haven't gotten around to them yet.

Juicedefender will not work with JB as of yet, also, not the end of the world, battery life seems decent for not having cycled anything yet.

Now as for the good, Google Now seems awesome. The voice recognition is stunning as far as I've tried it. It is a smooth rom but I'm just not fully conviced as to it's stability. I've installed Nstools and o/c'd it to 1200MHz which for some reason it didn't seem to like. I've always used that speed successfully with most other roms I run. Unfortunately I had to revert back to stock speeds and all's been fine since then. Not sure if it's coincidental or not but when I was at that speed I had the phone shut down, right off on me twice...not so good.

At this point I may have to retract my earlier statement about reverting to an earlier point. If you need you're phone to be reliable all the time, everyday then you might want to wait a few more days, weeks whatever it's going to be for a stable version. But if you're curious and want to play around, I have to admit it's a fun rom.

I know I haven't covered nearly all aspects but this is just an observation so you kinda get the picture. :silly:

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Doesn't even compare to vlingo, or the latest vlingo beta either for that matter...day and night. As for screenshots, kinda embarrassed but haven't even looked into how to so far. It's not overly obvious yet.

There's several things that this doesn't have yet or that I haven't found. The configurable power key for instance where ss and reboot/reboot to recovery are an option. As well as toggle options, not much in that respect either. I'm sure as the dev's of slim and darky's and some of the other big roms get closer to releasing their versions we'll see more of the finer aspects of what JB can do.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Quick Poll.

What ROM are you running as your 'go to' ROM?

Just curious what the make-up is out there - as most know, I'm still on SlimICS - been running steady since 3.6 and currently on 4.2.
[Fascinate General] Dayfid:
I agree with everything you said. I've been running it for a few hours now and I love it but it's not quite fully there yet. I'm going to jump back to a ICS ROM. I haven't really had any problems it other then a slight lag for a second of two.

It still lacks when compared to an ICS ROM, such as features, customization and those sorts of things. I'm absolutely in love with Google Now and the new notifications. I'll miss them but they're not enough to make me stay here on Jellybean quite yet.

I'm off to go look for an ICS ROM, if any of you have any recommendations for one, feel free to throw it at me. Thanks. :)

Edit: I'm going to try AOKP nightly 40.
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Well, in the past few weeks I've been a lost soul. It's with great regret that I had to leave my beloved MIUI behind for really one big reason, that reason is that taking my data to any other rom would result in FC's all over the place. For a flashaholic, that just doesn't work...

So I tried pretty much everything and anything out there, then went back to slim, 4.2 and now I finally see what the hype is, just a solid, stable rom. I really miss the bells and whistles of MIUI but no longer at the cost of being able to move easily through other roms. So I flashed all the others and it's just so easy to move data around I'm quite relieved...

Long story huh? Anyhow to answer your question as of today I've gone from:

-Slim 4.2 to

-JB v2 to

-TAJB v5 to

Well, back to Slim 4.2...been a long hard day my friend. :cowboy:
[Fascinate General] xenonrider:
Stock CM9 kernel (3.0.8-gf385c89). My baseband is also stock (I9000XXJVT).
[Fascinate General] spacekobra:
Miui has the most features imo. But yeah, slim and cm9 are great to work with. It's good to have a warning that jb is still unstable.

I'll wait a little longer.

Side note, the expanded notifications... did I hear that you can reply to texts directly from them, or am I dreaming this?
[Fascinate General] Dayfid:
I'm not to sure. The one time I was on Jellybean, Nobody texts me. Not even twitter. Lmfao.
[Fascinate General] canadagolfnut:
Ive followed the steps in the first couple posts, and got slim installed with the semaphore kernel, problem is, I cant restore my efs folder, it says /efs is out of space when I try to copy my backup overtop of /efs

Any ideas?

edit: screw it, went back to froyo/gb via kies and will try again. :-)
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Yeah, maybe start really fresh and ensure you have root explorer turned on if you are using ES File Explorer.
[Fascinate General] canadagolfnut:
Yep, went back and restarted from scratch, and now running slimics with semaphore with a working modem, working efs, everything. :)

Thanks for the help, and all the other peoples posts in here. :)
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Nice - get used to it and comfortable - then you can look at swapping out keyboard (the new jelly bean one is in the app store) and launchers if you are not partial to lightning.

Also, you can look at build.prop changes and gps.conf, but ensure you have backups of those files if you mess around with them - especially build.prop.

:)
[Fascinate General] canadagolfnut:
I've done prop now, no idea what it does. :)

I get GPS locks in 10-15 seconds so prolly won't play around with that

Jb KB in store the one from johntanmi?

Thanks again

Oh, if any hints on under volting or anything would be welcome :)
[Fascinate General] DaiZengar:
I'd like to ask a question about weather or not a USB Jig will help me before I go off and order one. The $2 isn't going to make or break me, but I need the phone back as soon as possible

My phone is stuck in a boot loop, and I can't enter Download or Recovery mode. None of the button combinations work, and I've tried every possible button combination. This happened because I flashed a ROM, but forgot to turn off the Voodoo lagfix. Not my brightest moment.

Is my phone a lost cause, or can a USB Jig help me out?
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
If you plan on flashing it'll be the best 2 bux you'll ever spend my friend!
[Fascinate General] DaiZengar:
Alright, thanks chief! Does it matter what kind of USB Jig I buy, or are they all the same?
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Here's a link the one I got: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260843445900&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:1123
[Fascinate General] DaiZengar:
It says that it won't work with European version 2.34 or higher. Does that mean that it won't remove the yellow triangle, or does that mean that it won't put it in download mode at all?
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Is your phone a European model? As far as putting it in download mode, that's really all it's supposed to do...I've used it dozens of times and had no issues. You can google how to make you're own jig if you really want. Most likely quicker, all you need is an old usb cable and a resistor, but the one in the link has worked for me.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
This one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.bean_keyboard

Play with Semaphore you'll see the ability to change governors and other settings. Also, if oyu changed build.prop you can reboot - your phone should start showing as a t959d and not an i9000.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
My guess is it wouldn't work at all if you had that version - is that what you have? TO be honest, I do not even know what that refers to.
[Fascinate General] DaiZengar:
Nah, it's the Canadian SGH-T959D model. I'm just a little worried where it said that it won't work above 2.34, since this was an ICS custom ROM I tried to flash.

Well, I was on Gingerbread, then tried to flash an ICS custom ROM anyways. The flashing only lasted about two seconds before it said the flash had failed, and then the boot loop started.
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
I used mine yesterday on 2 ICS roms and 2 JB roms, I don't think you really need to worry too much. They're a very simple tool.
[Fascinate General] DaiZengar:
You honestly just made my day right there. I'm going to go ahead and order one, thanks a lot chief!
[Fascinate General] finneginsfast:
Glad to help, having that jig will make you feel like Superman when you flash and is well worth having. :)
[Fascinate General] canadagolfnut:
Yep. Signature has changed :) and that keyboard is pretty cool, thanks again.
[Fascinate General] Dayfid:
Here's a Jellybean lockscreen replacement.

Looks nice but has a slight placement issue on Stock 182 SlimICS DPI.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.locker
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
switching to the KG3 modem :)
[Fascinate General] karmatose:
KG3 is dope. It's all I've run for the last 8 months or so and it works brilliantly.