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[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Just a quick note - my phone is a work phone as well - for calls, texts, and I use exchange on it for corporate email. So it has to work. I find even running nightlies on my phone - its very stable. I do not play games on it (well, ok - play some word games but nothing like agent dash or anything). So I'm not doing anything hugely taxing, but I find my phone as good as it was on GB to be honest.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
In the latter stages of that post, someone put up a youtube video of the ubuntu OS on their S1 - definitely early stages, but works pretty ok. I was really intrigued by the announcement when it was made they were making a mobile phone - I don't care for unity that much, but it does look nice on a phone.
[Fascinate General] Aleziss:
Thanks guys for your replies !

I know you guys told me more than once already to use CM10 but I have one last question before I dive in the file organization.

I see that JP is using CM10 and karmatose uses SlimBean (the one I saw on youtube).

By what I read and can understand reading on both CM and Slim sites is the size of the rom. Slim seems to be... slimmer ! so does it make eazier to run Slim on a less powerfull device and lower memory that the T959D has ?

Things I need to sort out and find on the sites suggested to me by you guys:

1) SilmBean states 5 languages (en,fr,de,it and es), CM10 seems to have a lot of languages, just not sure if I require specific language file yet or they are already built-in any of their roms

2) make all four menu buttons work, seems I need a script to fix this, how to apply the script

3) what are the basic apps needed

4) I've read some issues that we need to trick google play store that we have a T959D when we run an i9000 rom. Not sure what the problem is and if there is something to do, soooo many information there...

5) I don't know yet what I'll bump into

I continue to read and try to understand as much as I can.

I'm roaming around karmatose files and see !

Thanks a bunch guys !
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Slim is slimmer - but both ROMs run great. I was a HUGE Slim user for a very long time, and may switch back yet, but been loving CM10.1 since I tried it, and I find it more stable for me (I was getting soft reboots on Slim, but Karma was not getting any).

My responses to your questions:

As I said I only use English, but I think they are built in. CM likely has better language support just based on the amount of developers that contribute to it. I know 2 of the Slim developers, so they have some very good folks as well though.

I have to put that file in the OP when I get time, but you will see a post a few pages back with a flashable (.zip file) - you just have to put the file on the root of your system, go into recovery, select the file and flash it.

You can get anything from the play store, but just follow the OP - after that its your favourite apps - I always grab ES File Explorer, XDA, Nova Launcher (my preferred launcher), a few others.

No, you don't have to do this.

keep on asking!
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
There are a lot of different ways to back up EFS once the phone is rooted. One is simply copying the files using ES Explorer. Although it shows up as a folder, EFS is actually a separate mounted partition. Consequently, you can also make images of the partition using dd or using tar (via ADB or terminal) to compress and store the files. There is even an app (EFS Pro) on XDA that allows you to do it magically (although i haven't been able to get it to work on the phone). Some have mentioned that simply copying the files using ES Explorer does not maintain permissions/etc, but so far, no one has had any trouble.

That being said, I did have a problem the first time I flashed Slim 3.1 on the phone. It would not allow me to copy my backup copy of EFS over. I had to reflash CM10 and only then did it allow me to copy it over. Still not sure why and/or if it was a fluke thing, but just keep that in mind.

However, once I had it in CM10, further flashes to SB or other have maintained the EFS folder.
[Fascinate General] Aleziss:
Advencing in a messy pile of files...

I've seen the EFS Pro app. I'm going to try that to back up my EFS partition.

I wanted to find the latest CWM but I can't find it. Is the one describe in the OP is still fine at this time ?

I also see that in CWM we can backup ? What is it going to backup ?

Ok so by what I understand, like JP suggested, start with CM10 as it seem that some of you guys have got issues starting with SlimBean.

So as for the rom goes, here are the files I think they are going to match:

cm-10.0.0-galaxysmtd.zip, latest stable build for the I9000. Should I get the latest nightly build ?

Semaphore_JB_2.9.12.tar. There is an "s" version which I think is for repartitioning with more memory ?

I know I've already been "warned" by you guys to use the I9000 rom but I've seen a CM10 for the fascinate with the picutre that match exactly the T959D. Can you explaing again why nobody uses this rom instead ? The stable build are older (like CM7) but the nigthly build are CM10.
[Fascinate General] chris19000:
I've never actually had to use a jig yet but another method I used when all else failed (read continual bootloop whenever battery was in) was removing the battery, plugging in to USB, holding volume down and power button + popping battery back in. Have yet to hear of one that has been truly bricked due to flashing.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
If you follow the directions in the OP, you will get the versions of CWM you need.

That back up is a nandropid back, essentially an image of your phone. Always good practise to make one - it backs up everything - system, apps, etc.

OK - couple of issues here. So get the 10.0 version - latest nightly is 10.1. Start with stable - that is my recommendation and will get you started. Also, note the instruction in the OP you will need semaphore 2.1 to start flashing, but the version of the semaphore kernel you need for 10.0 is 2.6.5 - so ensure you have that version. The 'S' version has more memory - that's my preference, but there's a file in the OP for more memory you will also need to flash if you flash the s version. (I think I put it there anyways).

A few people tried T959 ROMs (vibrant) on ICS/JB - they didn't work. The fascinate for CM is based on a US Fascinate which is a completely different phone than the T959D.
[Fascinate General] dgerryts:
Updated to Slim 4.2.1 official. We'll see how it goes...
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
Let me know if you get multiple text messages. Since I've gone to Slim 4.2.1, every so often, I will get a single text message come in 4 or 5 times over a span of 1-5 mins.

JP - have you had this issue with CM10.1 at all?

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Good luck. I couldn't get it working. In the end, I just created a copy using ES Explorer. I also used tar and dd, but they were both overkill and not really required.

The latest CWM comes as part of the Semaphore kernel you will be flashing. So no need to worry about that. However, if you want to back everything up using Titanium Backup prior to flashing Semaphore with Odin, it would be a good plan, unless you don't care about losing all possible content.

Both CM10 and SB are good starting points. Keep in mind that after you install either, you need to download and install the gapps (google apps) package in order to have all the google apps/sync running properly. The base ROMs cannot come with them packaged directly due to some licensing issues.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

No multiple texts on CM for me.
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
Did you flash dirty, or do a wipe when you went back to CM10.1 from SB4.2.1?

On a completely separate note - I only get a single email notification from this thread when a new posting is made. However, until I visit the site again, I get no new notifications. Other threads on XDA will continue to send me notifs even if I do not revisit the thread. Any idea how/where that is configurable on the XDA site and/or if it is even possible? I would like to get notifs upon every new posting to this thread, if possible, but can't figure out the right setting! arrg.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

I think I did a factory reset but don't quite recall.
[Fascinate General] dgerryts:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

Dirty flash for me from SB 4.1.2. I had one random reboot to recovery. If it does it again, I will try clean.

Oh, and Spirit FM doesn't recognize SGH-T959D as a valid device in the playstore. Might change build.prop back go I9000 and see if it works.

I will keep an eye out for the multiple text thing.
[Fascinate General] Aleziss:
I'm getting there with all the files...

What confuse me a bit is that I am always looking for a CWM file as I think it comes in another file that has a different name correct ?

speedmod-kernel-k16-11-Odin.tar (that should work with 2.3.3) Is that the file that contain CWM ? If so, this is why I was not sure... I was expecting a file name with CWM.

Do I need to send the data to my external sd card ? I am not just sure when I can leave the external sd card in or not.

Does that mean that when I backup with nandroid back in CWM, even if I have CM10.0 with semaphore, it would restore my phone back to 2.3.3 ?

Ah yes I think I've read that on the semaphore website:

Semaphore JB 2.9.12

This is a kernel based on the pawitp's one and it works for Android JB ROMs.

Semaphore <= 2.6.6 for 4.1.2

Semaphore >= 2.8.0 for 4.2

So like you are saying, CM10.0 with semaphore 2.6.5 (or maybe 2.6.6 now at this moment in time like noted on semaphore site?)

As for the "S" version, that also means 2.6.5s is ok right ? Not just for 10.1 right ?

Also, is there a place that confirms when we need to tick repartition or not in odin (since the "S" is changing the size of partition)?

Is there anything else to do (special setting or procedure) when applying an "S" semaphore kernel ?

The stock 2.3.3 only have 384MB which sucks big time...

Thanks for the precisions !
[Fascinate General] Aleziss:
Clarifying !

I have read this in a thread somewhere while I was looking around for the slim rom... I think you are not alone with this issue.

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Thanks for the tip... I'll know if I have issue not to worry then...

Good thing to know when you install semaphore that you'll get the latest CWM. If I understand correctly, we need an older version of CWM because we are starting from GB 2.3.3. As for the backup, I already lost pretty much everything last week as my phone rebooted by itself and I had to start from scratch... again...

I had done a backup with kies a couple weeks before so I've got some pictures and videos. What I regret loosing are all my customers wifi passwords and all my sms text along with some notes I lost.

Ok for CM10/SB. It's just that I have read that starting with SB some had issues whereas people starting with CM10 and then move on to SB seem to have more success.

About the google apps package, is that what JP said I could find everything on google play or it's a different pack I need ?

I ask this because I have seen addons on slimroms is that the pack you are talking about ?

I have not found that on the CM website though as I think the previous pack (if it is what you are talking about) is for slimrom only.

Thanks for this great information !
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Different package. Go to the OP for the CM 10 (NOT 10.1) thread in the I9000 forum, and you will see a link to the ROM as well as a link to the Google Apps - you will want to pick the one for your version of android (so CM10 = 4.1.2)

Slim has its own GAPPS - I typically would load their AIO (all in one) package as I use just about everything.

CWM comes bundled with the kernels and ROMs - just a matter of having the right version, which is why we're specific about which kernel to use (speedmod here, 2.1.0 semaphore there, etc.)

Not sure on the question on your card, but nandroids get backed up to the non-removal SD (same place you are putting files to flash). And yes, while you may hit issues, the goal of a nandroid is to restore your phone to the exact state it was when you executed the Nandroid. :)

Yes on both accounts :)

Once flashed, there is a big mem fix which I think is in teh OP that you need to flash just to make 720p video recording work.

I get 397 with the 's' version of the kernel.
[Fascinate General] kagedtime:
Strangest thing just happened to me. I was rebooting into recovery to flash CM 10.1 and I lost access to my SD card(edit: internal SD that is) and now my phone no longer boots. All I get is recovery mode. So I figured now was a good time to go back to stock. The problem is Odin has been stuck at setting the pit file and do not turn off target for more than ten minutes. Any ideas?
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

Unplug, try again maybe. Restart Odin as well
[Fascinate General] karmatose:
FWIW, Bluetooth calling in my car doesn't work on SlimBean 4.2.1 (Kenwood BT-848U). Didn't work with an i9100 (Bell SGS2) on Slimbean 4.2.1 either. I can initiate the call but I get no audio through the headunit.
[Fascinate General] moosehead11:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

When i was on RC1 (switched to cm10.1) i had no issues with bluetooth calling through my Ford Sync
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
Have only used Bluetooth with a headset, and am very disappointed with the hands-free Google Voice calling. Quite frankly, it is terrible. It takes forever to prompt me to dial and if/when it does (about 50% of the time), it takes 5-10s to process the voice and return with options. Most of the time, on top of that, they are wrong - especially if I am trying to dial by number instead of from my contact list.

I used to use Choice Dialer + on GB (third party) which was significantly better, but it is not available for ICS+. Anyone have any other suggestions/options?

From this perspective the iPhone 3GS+ kicks ass. The voice recognition was amazing in it. Heck - even my Samsung clamshell phone from the early 2000s beats it hands down.

Very disappointing.

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Unless it was me asking in the other threads! :)

Yes - that is the pack for Slim. CM has another pack (it's on goo.im). I find it by going to the CM wiki and typing in gapps in the search box. You'll get a page which shows you the different gapps for the different builds.

Slim: http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/downloads/all/viewcategory/91-addons-full-packages

CM: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Gapps
[Fascinate General] karmatose:
I don't really use the "voice calling" features at all so I can't comment on how well they work, and the only reason I found out that my head unit doesn't work is because i installed on in a friends truck and installed the latest Slimbean on his phone yesterday. He complained it didn't work. Now it's my problem and I need to find a resolution for it.

... And I know **** about the i9100.
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
Me and my big mouth. Phone just randomly rebooted into recovery mode while I was talking on it. Okay - time to try out CM10.1 nightlies then and see if I get a better result. Will see if I get some time later today.
[Fascinate General] kagedtime:
After a few attempts I got the flash to work. Now I'm getting a boot loop. I've flashed twice to make sure. if I boot into Android system recovery I get:

Android system recovery <3e>
Enter: OK Key, Select : Vol UP / Vol Down
Reboot system now
apply update from sdcard
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition

--Copying media files...
E:failed to mount /sdcard (file exists)
E:copy_dbdata_media: Can't mount /sdcard
your storage not prepared yet, please use UI menu for format and reboot actions.
Media files copy failed.

# MANUAL MODE #

--Appling Multi-CSC...
Installing Multi-CSC
Applied the SCS-code 'TLS'
Successfully applied multi-CSC.

(I typed all that out with one hand while holding my son, sorry for any possible typos)

So my internal SDcard failed?
[Fascinate General] karmatose:
Possibly. I had an i9000 I tried to resurrect at one point and I recall a similar message. One thing you might try doing is flashing a semaphore kernel with CWM on there and manually trying to format /sdcard then re-flashing the stock rom specifying a .pit.

I can't say for sure that will work but if it doesn't your internal /sd is probably dead. I recall looking into ways to get around that using an external SD for internal stuff, but I can't recall where I found it.
[Fascinate General] kagedtime:
I found a thread with someone having the exact same problem with an I9000. the only solution was to use an external SD in its place. So looks like I'm off to Future Shop.

I couldn't mount the SD in CWM that's why I tried ODIN. That didnt solve it so its likely dead/corrupt.

this is the thread: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35915484&postcount=18
[Fascinate General] Aleziss:
Could it be the hardware afterall ?

I am starting to wonder if it's not an hardware issue... I am actually gathering all the files for rooting/backup/CM10 to escape this exact same situation I have with 3.2.2. My phone reboot itself and last time, hard. It has reset to factory by itself and I am still running stock.

This is with a supposed new motherboard that has been replaced by samsung in march 2012.
[Fascinate General] dgerryts:
I don't think the hardware is the issue here. It rebooted to recovery on me once after installing Slim 4.2.1.

I ran Slim 4.1.2 since release without a single forced reboot.
[Fascinate General] Aleziss:
uh...

uh... I wonder if it's what happend to me the first time... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1554072

If I knew that, I would certainly have tried that !

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I actually wonder why it's not possible to have like 1GB instead ? I mean 3.2.2 has 1.6GB available for installing apps, which is way way more that I will ever use, and move part of that huge partition reserved for apps to the os instead ?

Isn't that only a partion thing ? It seems a lot more complicated than that...

Doing so would be so nice for installing new roms. I think one of the major draw back of the T959D is it's memory allocated for the OS (besides single core processor).

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Did you get that issue prior flashing slimrom on the stock rom ?
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
We're talking about two different things. I'm talking about memory, not storage space. The storage space is like 1.6 GB on the internal card for apps and such.
[Fascinate General] dgerryts:
My phone has been rooted and custom rom -ed for a year and half now. (I got tired of waiting for telus and samsung to release updates)

This is the first time it has ever done this on any rom. I also want to clarify that this is a reboot to recovery, not a full reboot to lock screen.
[Fascinate General] kagedtime:
The ongoing battle

So first try. I had to partition and format the SD card to replicate the internal one. It worked perfectly and everything flashed and booted fine. Now that I have had some Jelly Bean I wanted it back to I proceeded to attempt to flash the semaphore kernel and then flashed CM10.1 and I got stuck in a boot loop. Took a couple more attempts to figure out how to reformat the SD again since windows doesn't support partitions on SD cards. I got it working again and managed to break it by trying to change one of the system files as recommended in the tutorial. Now it appears I am stuck in boot loop hell once more even with reformatting the card several times. Not sure where to go from here. I'll post an update if I figure it out. Lesson? Don't take flashing roms for granted apparently.
[Fascinate General] Heoxoma:
Did I get right, you flashed semaphore kernel and then flashed CM10.1? If it's so you should reverse order. You're overwriting semaphore kernel that's why you get loop.

I see in your signature - you're on RemICS and devil kernel. How is it? I mean all these TouchWiz and Samsung like is it smooth enough?
[Fascinate General] kagedtime:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

I'm getting boot loops after flashing stock Gingerbread using Odin. My internal SD is dead so I had to use a workaround with an external SD. Its strange because it worked a couple times but now it won't.

Flashing semaphore was to get recovery so I could flash another Rom instead of gingerbread which I believe was the instruction on the first page.

RemICS was nice but I found it slow. May have been my phone dying though.
[Fascinate General] Heoxoma:
When you flashed it on your T959D you didn't bother with separate kernel (I assume I9000 devil kernel included in ROM zip)?

And how slow it was slower than stock GB? How about apps included, are they also Samsung like?

Thanks,
[Fascinate General] Heoxoma:
Hey guys,

It seems like everybody here running either SB or CM ROMs with Semaphore kernel.

I am curious what other kernels / ROMs are compatible with our T959Ds?

Is there anywhere around kind of a list of them?

As I've learned from previous posts: RemICS with devil kernel should be compatible.

Thanks,
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
I haven't tried too many - the big thing is making sure you have the right kernel for the version of android you are using. I switched to Semaphore on GB way back when I ran Darky's and have pretty much used it since. Essentially any I9000 kernel *should* work - Devil is one I read about, Mackay is another. Not sure what else would be current.

Also, looks like SB 1.1 is out now with Android 4.2.2 - might try it, not sure.
[Fascinate General] kagedtime:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

Well I've moved on from the old fascinate now. I've given up attempting to resurrect it.

RemICS was basically from what I could tell CM10.1 with a touchwiz ux type theme applied over top including sounds. It was pretty nice, though I ditched the touchwiz launcher for Apex pretty quick. Once it gets an update I would recommend it as a more colourful CM.

I'm still going to check in to see how things are going but otherwise I'd like to wish you guys luck! Thanks for all the help!
[Fascinate General] Matt5606:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

Good luck to you as well, Hope you like the s3! I am also planning on jumping ship in the near future, gonna go with the s4 once it hits the shelves.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
Re: [TELUS T959D FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)

Traitors ;)
[Fascinate General] karmatose:
Don't worry... I still have 17 months of contract left with this phone. I'll shut the lights off, man.
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
I'm waiting for the S4 as well. As much as the T959 is 'solid', I find it that it is very sluggish. I haven,t had a chance to try CM10.1 yet though; am still hoping that will give it a little boost of speed.

BTW - has anyone tried SB 4.2.2 yet? Worth the upgrade?
[Fascinate General] dgerryts:
Just did a full wipe and clean install of SB 4.2.2. So far so good. Definitely feels less sluggish than SB 4.2.1. YMMV.. :D
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
Full wipe as in wipe data/system/cache and davlik?
[Fascinate General] dgerryts:
Yes. and a format sdcard. SB instructions basically say you need a full wipe to install SB 4.2.2. I was due anyways.
[Fascinate General] jpmccarthy:
I think I might hold out for an ubuntu phone - not sure - or pick up a galaxy nexus dirt cheap once the price drops a bit. Find it hard to justify a new phone when the T959D just keeps trucking for what I need. :)
[Fascinate General] ebenze:
Really? Reformat SD card as well? Whats the need for that? Any idea?