yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Which fw version is that? I've never seen it before I think :p

Is it an update that came after .73 fw and what are the changes?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
It's Docomo branded. No significant changes. The Docomo firmwares are different. Started with 6.0.A.4.1, next was 6.0.A.5.6 and now 6.0.A.5.12.

The latest fix was to repair a problem involving the light being on when plugged in but not going into charge mode.

I wish all carriers had such an in depth update page:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...omo.co.jp/support/utilization/product_update/

You can use Google translate to understand.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] poo-tang:
It needs to be up before release to be certified. for a certain period Just like a patent, company's have the right to view it in full details and can put in counters to anything conflicting and all that crap.

For example the LT15i ICS FW has been up since march 30th. And has not been released just of yet

The approx time is around 2 weeks. But it is nice to have hope.:)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] blakwhite:
Some countries do not need that certification before releasing a firmware.

If my memory serves me correctly, the 2.3 update in semc x10 happened in the week following the ptrcb show-up, with all the same excitement of months, in a similar thread.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Oriono1:
Is there any chances my phone could get the ICS before my birthday, 1st of June, as a special gift from Sony ;)

Anyway we have hope :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Very high.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
Few more days, and all we enjoy will be ICS :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dynamic503:
VIETNAM is the FIRST!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] slybeans:
Really? I gotta learn Vietnamese then!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ang1000:
Singapore is the first to get ics.

Sent from my Xperia S running Google Android 1.5 Cupcake
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
Did they already get it?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reptile64:
People, STOP crapping in this thread!!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
Yea I'm waiting for the pregnant lady!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yakandu:
Well, when ICS is out upload the ftf, or the FILEXXXX and send me to add them to the FIRMWARES & ROOT Thread ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1599303
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ang1000:
no. just guessing that singapore will get ics first.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dynamic503:
but that's only my wishes :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pezo:
To make a post that's not "Bla bla next week for sure bla bla!!":

Do I have to wipe the phone when updating to ICS or can I keep apps and settings (and is it wise to do so)?

If I do have to wipe the phone, does the PC Companion Backup also backup apps and settings, meaning can I use PC Companion to restore everything on ICS?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
No, you won't have to wipe. I advise you do though.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
you guys talk about 25 gb space?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
No, only apps and data.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Wiping is always recommended except when flashing a minor update. Like from. 67 to .73 or else. Jesus i cant wait anymore. :banghead:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xgr:
Why wiping data/apps before install?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
Less chance of any bugs or issues ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] KL643:
912 posts..70 days from the first post: "Any word yet on a solid release date for ICS on the Xperia S?" Guess not :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Guess yep. Next week.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
If this is true, I hope it is either Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, when I am off. Would have plenty of time to play with it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Wednesday no. The rest I am OK. If it can be released on Friday, even better.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Zero ducks given. Also duck is the official replacement for the f-word in this forum. Try swyping it and see. Duck.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Umm so I don't have titanium backup(have issues with it) will moborobo do the job for backup anyone have an idea if not any other alternatives I'll try them out before ics

Oh my cell is not rooted for now will get to it after ics
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Restoring apps is also bad in theory.

@ALL: Sony will make the update as painless as possible. You'll likely be able to update and keep all your data with minor to zero glitches. If you have something extremely important, don't wipe and see where that takes you.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lullesha:
Hope it's friday too, mainly coz then this old theory that I read on an old blog would be so true it's scary... I know most of you here dont suck on conspiracy theories but here's the link: http://bit.ly/pUog8p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Sony should show big amount of respect for you to keep everyone calm here. Its because of your and info for release that we could manage the level of stress on this thread.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Well in that case I'll wipe, data is mostly from games. So no harm I guess.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
I always know now that first thing is backup as much data that I can. Thanks god google account has been getting so advance that keep many data and information that I usually use. Many time I got issues after re-installing data and apps from TB and sometimes no issues at all. But goal is to keep a backup of everything and then you can try different paths to work things out the way you like.

I will do a fresh install.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
Just throwing in my 2 cents, the regional offices just got the ICS update this past week, and I'm not sure if it'll be released that quickly to public by next week. Usually it takes a month at least after regionals test before the update gets released. I've also been told it should be around the same/or after time for the Arc's update, which is slated for end of June at latest. That's just what I heard, but next week seems unlikely to me IMO.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
This is more realistic.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
Which regional office? Do you mean regional offices all over the world?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Do we even date about regions? The day it's up in Sweden or somewhere we'll get FTFs... And in Sweden it'll be up as soon as it's certified.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
I'm just giving my info mate. Whether you care about other regions or not, it's up to you. I'm just trying to account the other 99% of people who don't have their bootloader unlocked. :rolleyes:

@richteralan

Most of Asia just got ICS on their Operator Acceptance units. Europe, a week before that. I've never seen FW released to these test units and released to public within a few weeks after. Sorry, none of my colleagues have definite timeline, but they said most likely not by mid June. This is just from my source. Don't know about Europe's timeline.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Some countries like Russia and Nordics don't do much carrier testing, that's why they're getting it early.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yakandu:
K900, maybe everyone knows this but, are you working for sony or you have contacts with it or.. what? XD

just cuiosity
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] btbeeston:
Any idea if the ICS update will require the .73 release to update from or will it be possible to update from any version? I am one of those lucky generic UK users that is still on .67!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I have a friend there who leaks me some info. I usually just forward your questions to him.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Depends on whether they make it a patch or a full update. You'll be able to flash an FTF though.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
http://phandroid.com/2012/05/19/sony-tablet-ps-android-4-0-update-to-roll-out-may-24th/

is unlikely that sony brings out two updates simultaneously. in three days sony will release the 4.0.3 for Tablet P.

24 may + 1 week for Xperia S, imho, we will have ICS the first days of June:(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Tablet and phone teams are almost completely separate as the tablet team always worked in-house and the phone team used to be a part of SEMC.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
That really sounds logic to me. So when do you expect ics to roll out? All this blabla ics is coming in june is bugging me lmao.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fkef:
Sony Forum

Marcus on Sony Forum, just stated the follwoing:

OK, looks like I've mixed things up. I'm really sorry for this.

- The ICS roll out for Xperia arc S, ray and neo V started some time ago.

- The rest of the 2011 Xperias will get ICS during late May/early June. Which was the timing I mixed with the Xperia S timing

- Xperia S will get it during latter part of Q2.

Sorry.

What is going on here? ICS will not come out this week anymore?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Oh jesus christ...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] elfeneco:
By "end of Q2" I assume we have to understand during June... :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
and I assume that's another delay. Now wee can freeze the thread for a month :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 3Shirts:
Sony are an absolute disaster at PR. Not just phones but almost every Sony device!

Sort it out.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
So true. They are so bad at upgrading really, I'll have a research though today to get some information from the customer service they must have that information!

I'll really not accept another goddamn delay -.-
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
No it is not. "End of Q2" has always been the original date.

---------- Post added at 04:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:22 AM ----------

What delay? They said "end of Q2" :rolleyes:

PS: Have you ever waited for a mayor update from HTC, Motorola or Samsung? Good luck if your Q1 2011 device gets "at least" listed for an update...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Lol man what are you on about? are we talking about a 2011 device? No we're talking about a 2012 phone which was released in 2012 when ics was out for months.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
...and why did you buy it then?

I bought it because an amazing 12mpix camera and a gorgeous uber-retina display screen can't be upgraded to any other phone by any firware update, and the phone was going to receive ICS "by the end of Q2..." ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] freddy_krueger:
hi

see what Stephanie from UK chat say

Stephanie: Hi Mike, thank you for contacting Sony Xperia UK Chat Support. My name is Stephanie, please could I take your full name and email address?

mike: my name mike and my email is ******@hotmail.com

Stephanie: Thank you for providing me with this information, Please could you confirm which model of phone you have and which network it is on?

mike: xperia s

mike: no network at this time

Stephanie: Thank you, how can I help you today?

mike: i would like to know when this phone will received update to 4.0

Stephanie: It is expected to be updated at the end of June time

mike: end of june ? damn , i thought it be end og may

mike: of may

Stephanie: Sorry, it is expected at the end of June unfortunately

mike: ok thank you for your answer

mike: have a nice day

Stephanie: No problem Mike. I hope the information I have provided is okay. Is there anything else I can help you with?

mike: no thank you

mike: bye
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Another confirmation.. And at the end of june they will say q3 lmao... I said it in the beginning and i'll say it again: they say q2 and when is it "expected" to come? End of Q2. . Poor.. just poor...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kartobot:
I thought k900 confirmed it to be released this week.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Indeed.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I can't say anything. The last time I heard, there were no delays. Information consistency is not Sony's strength and the current builds I've seen are nice and stable. I'll ask my source about that but my guess is they're just giving later dates to not disappoint most people who won't follow the leaks. If they push it out this week, it'll be a pleasant surprise for people waiting for late Q2. If they release it late Q2, it'll be ok. But if they promise it at the end of May and release in June, it'll be a disappointment.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
i think we all need to be realistic and actually READ the timeline which Sony (SEMC) has given (in one of their developer blog posts)...

ICS for ARC S, RAY, NEO V was the first batch of ICS updates

then ICS rollout for ARC, PLAY, NEO, remaining 2011 devices is planned

and finally ICS rollout for 2012 devices...

with this timeline i dont think we will get ICS on Xperia S in May...

most logical time-frame is mid-end June...

may be SEMC/Sony are planning ICS update for ARC/PLAY/NEO/etc this week??

P.S.: some of you might know this that the ICS leaks in the wild, for Xperia 2011 devices and Xperia 2012 devices, are all android version 4.0.4... i am guessing that this transition from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 is causing additional delay...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
Nooooooooooooooooooooo Don't say that!

I want ICS next week. :(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
@Doom

What improvements we will have with kernel 3.xxxx?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I think they want to do it in parallel. Maybe I'm wrong, just guessing.

@ALL: The XPS was designed in a hard time, they needed something that would kick off Sony without Ericsson as a brand. They made great hardware AND great software just before the actual merger began. Then they quickly replaced SE with Sony ( even early review units were SE branded ) and pushed it out ASAP. And still it turned out to be a great device. I honestly admire the people behind all this and the work they put into it. So let's give them the time they need to deliver the software they want to be perfect. The software worthy of Sony, not Sony Ericsson.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Oriono1:
How sad :( If UK gets it at the end of Q2, maybe my Asian country will get it around Q3
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arc_u:
I think it would be great to close this thread until we got an official date for ICS, some here gonna to lose their mind.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] seanicca:
^ +1
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pezo:
^ +1

Sent from the Delta Quadrant using a transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
**** you Marcus from Sony forums!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
The thread should stay open because there is information I and other people post. This information is actually valuable, and people will continue posting it. People whining about delays should be dealt with in some other way.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
No understanding of the matter whatsoever. If he didn't post that, the update might have still been delayed. The only difference is we wouldn't know about it. He's not the one who decides when the update is out and you must not blame him for releasing information, whatever it may be. And you know what... **** you!!! If you think you have the right to insult people who post things you don't like, I have this right just as you do.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Yes, don't close it :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
it seem to me that only names have changed from sony ericsson to sony but all old lazy empty head basters :mad: stay where as it was before where are those blady reduction jobs they taking ****ing wages and keep chairs warm getting fat. :rolleyes:

sorry for wording

With that efficiency they can only dream about increase profit and market share:eek:

btw end of the Q2 is end of june ? so eventually we got only two weeks delay so is not too bad:D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
It's not delayed, Q2 has always been the date ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
They want and are able to increase profits and market share. Things are changing for Sony and inside Sony. They're not lazy, they are busy upgrading your grandma's Xperia pro. Not a single other manufacturer delivered updates for every previous generation device, even budget dumbphones. Sony did, or at least they are working to do it. Sony is the biggest AOSP contributor after Google itself. Sony pushes the new Xperia lineup aggressively and I've already seen a whole bunch of people switch to the S and the P, some of them ditching their iPhones. Sony hires highly qualified engineers and software developers, not some 'old lazy empty head basters'. I'm not being a fanboy here, the only company I'm a fanboy of is Studio Ghibli. I'm just trying to make you all understand the good things. The Galaxy S is not getting ICS. The Xperia active is. Because they ducking care for you. Because the universe doesn't end with the Xperia S. Because there are more people with 2011 Xperia devices who want to get ICS. Because there are people with 2011 Samsung devices that never will. Because you, yes you, are f-wording the people who care for you.

If anyone from Sony is reading it: sadly, the only thing that's expressed publicly about you is whine and insults. I feel sorry for this and for the state of XDA in general. We don't post love letters here, but we are thankful for all the work you've done. We care about you and we understand you don't owe us anything. Take your time, make it perfect and watch the whine turn into love.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
end of of may begin of june

it was said 20 time all over and over again in this and sony blog

shall I quoted few pages back?

to make few more repetition
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Official info says Q2. Moderators don't represent anyone, remember.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
+1

and they are indeed making changes inside Sony, please have some patience, you can't change a complete company and staff in a very short period, changes take some time ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
Admit i am a bit mad today :D

|Sry
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Eh... Thanks? You finally made me write that rant about the state of things...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
@k900 Dont you thing that, you take my post too personal ?;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] subben2003:
well said k900

I love my xperia s as it is now.... ICS is comming when it comes :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arc_u:
I think I'm gonna stop watching this thread again, gonna take a look per day in dev section to see any ICS ftf..

Sent from my LT26i using Android alpha 0.01
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I don't want to insult anyone, but I really don't like where this thread is going. And it's going to 'DUCK SONY ME WANTZ MAH ICS'. I'm just this kind of person. I can't stand such things. I can even pull a protekk and start raging and swearing and stuff. But there is always a reason to that. In fact, sorry for quoting your post. This was meant to be for everyone, your post was pretty much the last drop.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
and probably strongest one,

"DUCK SONY ME WAHTZ MEH ICS" where did you get that english from?:eek:

impressive
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I'm exaggerating ofc. But that's where we're going to end up if we don't stop the hate machine.

Edit: duck is the way the default keyboard autocorrects the f word, so I just use it not to swear here.

Edit 2: Never though you can have typos in purposefully bad English. Turns out you can.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] belek1979:
2 delete
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
This thread needs a FAQ. With when's ICS as the first question and when's Q2 as the second.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] belek1979:
end of q2 is end of july :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] elfeneco:
No, it's end of June.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
I am not saying my English is perfect and don't hate Sony if I did, I would not bother to buy it vast rage of product start from t68i, t630,k800, k810,k850, few walkmans , x10, Xperia s

but I like German timing and say 10:00 dead- will be at 10:00 !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I didn't mean your English, that was about my ALL CAPS RAGE TEXT :)

Still don't get the last sentence though :P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
I said that: I like to be on time and expect people, conference to be on time,

German style of living

edit: updates as well.

edit i didnt mean to start argue again it was just an info
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Ok, get it. Remember that the time is Q2 though :P

---------- Post added at 07:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/21/3033966/motorola-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade-statement << THAT.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
You know thay is a great idea it can also answer common questions about the stock ICS rom what will it be like might keep certain hot heads busy in reading
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
[/COLOR]http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/21/3033966/motorola-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade-statement << THAT.[/QUOTE]

Ya ya Customer Satisfaction ? that the live :D

ha ha ha customer point view !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
So while Mr. K900 (our beloved source for good news) of unknown13 are trying to get information, lets put the date for end of June. Q2 was promised from beginning (with false advertisement [we should have been smarter]) and remains as Q2 till someone give us a surprise.

Lets all of us enjoy the device for the time being.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
ICS for the Xperia S will start appearing by somewhere middle May. Definitely not in April. ICS for the Xperia S will arrive a few weeks after ICS for the 2011 range (which will get the update starting late April).

Confirmed by Sony Mobile Netherlands many times now.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Does this mean an X10 will get it first?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] THeLogiC:
X10 will not get ICS
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Just saw that elsewhere. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Sony. All the others(and reportedly the mini!) are getting it but not us. Would sorta put me off buying the S out of sony hate, but I cant resist that beast.

Seems a bit silly not to though, any particular reason why they wouldnt?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] THeLogiC:
yeah

well our x10 is kinda old 2010 line up.

Old hardware and less ram is problem for ICS

but cm9 is looking good on x10 :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
No. The X10, X10 Mini, X10 Mini Pro and X8 are not getting ICS from Sony. Never.

The X10's final update is the 2.3 update. The X10 has had some brilliant updates though. 1.6 -> 2.1 -> 2.3, not many handsets have had so many updates.

All 2011 devices are getting an update. They all have the same CPU and same memory, and all of them are more powerful than the X10. Which is why they're getting the update.

But I wouldn't worry, you can be sure someone will port the ICS update to the X10.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
Can you tell me which 2010 phone is getting ICS? X10 - no, Samsung Galaxy S - no, any other? Don't think so. Xperia mini is the one from 2011, not 2010.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Could you guys share your ideas on

"Why Sony thinks that 2011 should get ICS earlier than their flagship Phone?"

Today, Sony just released ICS Beta for Xperia PLAY and still no official news on 2012 handsets.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
They want feedback for the gamepad and such. Next year we will have a Beta from Sony for Android 5 or 6.

Sent from Xperia X10 Mini Pro using ICS by paul-xxx
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Gamepad and such wasn't their issue since they released Beta ICS a month ago for most of their 2011 phones(Xperia arc s, ray v, etc)

was it because, it was felt easier to upgrade those? Of course, they don't have front facing camera and NFC and some other features. So maybe less work.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reidefors82:
Still, the 2011 phones have a Beta. That is nothing my mother would bother to install, or the rest of the world.

It´s still possible that Xperia S gets the official ICS at the same time as Arc and the rest