yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[SuperSU] hgmichna:
OK, once a year I eat troll bait (like a three-word answer that requires many more words to dissect and to make its thoughtlessness visible).

That SuperSU is better is not a reason to install it. It would only be a good reason if (a) the user had a particular need for that in which SuperSU is better, and (b) fulfilling that particular need (which could that be?) is worth the additional cost of installing SuperSU, and (c) the additional cost of making reasonably sure that it cannot cause any conflict with the already installed solution is bearable. Then there is (d) the potential cost of a defect, caused by such a conflict. Because the user may not even be able to determine the cause, there is a risk that this cost could be high. We may have a low-risk-of-high-damage situation here, something that is difficult to judge.

How, by the way, can you possibly prove that installing SuperSU over another superuser app that is built into the Android version cannot and will never, particularly not after any number of OTA updates to Android/CM, cause any conflicts or problems? Note also that CyanogenMod is thoroughly tested and used by many more users than the few who install SuperSU over the built-in app. The user would be going into uncharted territory.

Even if you knew that all those costs were low, how could you prove it and convince me or anybody else? Have you even tried?

I do not want to argue these points any further. I think it is enough if everybody here reads the pros and cons and forms his own opinion.
[SuperSU] joeynox:
What settings should I use for SuperSU to allow sttweaks, greenify, and titanium to work properly ? Greenify is set to grant but it says an app is blocking auto hibernation
[SuperSU] Pkt_Lnt:
That is a greenify setting. SuperSU grants root or not, that's it.
[SuperSU] joeynox:
How could it be a greenify setting if greenify is saying its being blocked by a 3rd party app?

Also I tried updating my 2.01 from play store to the stable 2.02 zip and flashing it with twrp but it just fails . any reason why it would fail ?
[SuperSU] Pkt_Lnt:
This is OT in this thread, try asking here, it has been answered a few times.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
[SuperSU] Vagelis1608:
Please?

Sent from my D620R [Stock 4.4.2]
[SuperSU] darkluna:
If you call 10million download on play store few then I don't know what would it take for you to say that supersu is much better than superuser. I you are going for custom rom you are rooting your it. If you don't think that supersu is much better. Then what are you doing in a supersu thread? Peace
[SuperSU] gorilla p:
How can you be sure that installing a custom ROM instead of stock won't cause problems? how can you be sure using kaspersky, bitdefender or emsisoft instead of windows defender won't cause problems? How can you be sure using a smart phone instead of a home phone won't present problems?

It's so commonly accepted as significantly better, to a degree in which it doesn't even deserve comparison or discussion. Chainfire does an excellent job making sure his SuperSU app is constantly up to date and will work with the latest changes to Android before they even become public.

Only here would this even need to be discussed...

You officially found a way to fail the internet.
[SuperSU] hgmichna:
Don't stop reading in the middle of a sentence. The correct quote would have been, the few who install SuperSU over the built-in app. Most users who install CyanogenMod do not install SuperSU, because the function is already built-in and because of the risks involved in installing a second app with the same functionality over the built-in app. I have explained these risks already in detail.

Never have I indicated that SuperSU is in any way bad. It is my own first choice on a OnePlus One phone, and I have even bought the Pro version, but I do it because the CyanogenMod 11S version used in that phone does not have the function built-in.

Chainfire is not losing much business because of the few users that ponder installing SuperSU over CyanogenMod's built-in root app and decide otherwise. Most CyanogenMod users will not get the idea in the first place, because they already have the functionality, so we are not talking about a major market here. And somebody who needs any additional function that is only available in SuperSU will install SuperSU anyway.

No misunderstandings, please! Do not read anything into my message that is, in fact, not there.

---------- Post added at 11:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 AM ----------

Read before you write. The original question was not whether SuperSU is better than the built-in superuser function in CyanogenMod. The original question was merely whether a user here who asks about root on CyanogenMod should be told, in addition to a recommendation for SuperSU, that he does not have to install SuperSU to get root, because CM is already rooted. That's all. I don't know how this "SuperSU is better" got into the discussion, because nobody objected to telling anybody who asks that SuperSU is better.

I think the proper way to answer the question is: If you flash CyanogenMod, then your phone is already rooted. We still recommend to install SuperSU, because it is better than the built-in function.

I personally would add that this entails certain risks that are difficult to judge, but that was not the main point.

I propose to end this discussion, because everything that needed to be said has been said and because most of the later discussion was only based on inexplicable misunderstandings, based on sloppy reading or lack of comprehension.
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
Yes, please do put this discussion to bed.
[SuperSU] sumit.roy:
thanks :cowboy:
[SuperSU] fufutos:
There is a post here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54109473&postcount=7 saying that SuperSU Pro can deactivate Knox after rooting etc. Is this valid and does this means that you can bring back to 0x0 the counter?
[SuperSU] zadigre:
it's deactivating Knox the security app, not Knox Warranty (the counter)... two different things.
[SuperSU] fufutos:
Got it, but anyway when I've looked at "device administrators" is unchecked, so what was the purpose of using SuperSU to deactivate it?
[SuperSU] zadigre:
disabling "devices administrators" is needed because if you try mess with one of the app that is a "device administrator", it won't work at all...

Removing Knox is needed to allow SuperSU working properly... if you don't remove it, it might fail silently for some specific operations/functions.
[SuperSU] gijokmr:
One of the main reason i installed supersu in my phone was Titanium backup system app uninstall/restore not working on cm superuser .I don't the reason for this.if u install supersu , it will work
[SuperSU] nazfalas:
Same here.

Also: The amount of options in the pro version surpasses the regular SU by far. Not to mention the ease of having a floating windows SU request instead of a complete transition to a different app.
[SuperSU] gorilla p:
Yeah despite my comment only being half-serious, it was still half-serious. There are are a lot of issues that switching to SuperSU will fix for people.
[SuperSU] jin111:
When the next stable version be released?
[SuperSU] khairulez:
When he want to do that.
[SuperSU] ralpheboyo:
When it's ready.... I got a pro update which is normally a good indication....
[SuperSU] darknessviking:
hey,

yesterday i rootet my galaxy note,and i have superuser 0.87 now,

can i update to this version instead?

how do i do that?
[SuperSU] hooliganx:
yes, U can.

download and flash, or update through Super Su app.

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[SuperSU] milojoseph:
lux interfer with the tapjacking protection. is there a way i can blacklist lux
[SuperSU] Pkt_Lnt:
Whitelist SuperSU in Lux
[SuperSU] milojoseph:
how do i do that
[SuperSU] jwds1978:
+1

I was thinking just last night about contacting Titanium about such a configurable.

--

Sent via Tapatalk 2 from my TELUS HTC Amaze 4G on the Fido network.
[SuperSU] dimebagdan65:
If you guys want to make it a system app it's ridiculously easy. Use ES File Explorer (enable root mode, mount /system r/w) to move the eu.whatever.apk (I forget, you'll figure it out lol) from /data/app to /system/app. Long press after the move and set permissions to rwx-rw-rw (someone may be able to clarify but that's what worked for me). Once that's done, reboot to recovery, wipe cache & dalvik, fix perms, wipe c/d again, reboot to system, profit!

I posted a tutorial a while back, it's on www.dimedroidhq.com
[SuperSU] Pons:
Hey, that's another request/improvement : an option to have SUU switch itself to a system app, and then maybe another option to integrate updates to the system partition. This second one will probably have to be selected once there is an update to be integrated.

Granted, these two requests are a little more involved than the my last one and more for convenience since there are other ways to get it converted.
[SuperSU] vlt96:
Much simple:

Rename apk from /data/app/ to SuperSU.apk and move it to /system/app (make sure the old version is removed) and set permissions to 644(rw-r--r--) and reboot immediately!!

You should add this to 1st post, chainfire :D

Seek the signature below the line;)
[SuperSU] shaggyskunk:
Just noticed that titanium gives me a "failed" message? I'm rooted & all the other apps that need root work fine?

Sent from Down The Rabbit Hole, using Tapatalk 2
[SuperSU] bsoplinger:
If it's a system app then if you choose to wipe /data through a reset or recovery or whatever you'd still have root and su access. Android behaves differently when you have a system app vs. data app but I don't think any of those make a difference as far as this discussion but a developer more aware of the oddities of Android will correct me I'm sure if I'm wrong :eek:

Sent from my PG41200 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[SuperSU] shaggyskunk:
If anyone is interested... Un installing titanium backup & reinstalling it & the pro version, if you've got it...fixes the problem with superSu.

Sent from Down The Rabbit Hole, using Tapatalk 2
[SuperSU] cbeckstein:
Hi Chainfire,

any chance for an update for the SuperSU CWM flash binary in the first posting of this thread (to the current version 0.88)?
[SuperSU] dimebagdan65:
Why you no install from Play Store...?
[SuperSU] shaggyskunk:
I'm pretty sure that I read that you can use titanium, go to supersu... Long press & you have the option to install as a system app that way?

Sent from Down The Rabbit Hole, using Tapatalk 2
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
Has been updated :)
[SuperSU] hanschke:
is this right that i have to delete the superuser.apk if i want to use suersu?
[SuperSU] shaggyskunk:
No.

Sent from Down The Rabbit Hole, using Tapatalk 2
[SuperSU] vlt96:
Well, I am not wiling to pay 20 RON for doing something I can do I 1 minute... most...
[SuperSU] DarkhShadow:
If its your current Superuser app no you can't, it does not show in the list
[SuperSU] dimebagdan65:
Smh...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25242203
[SuperSU] Hairo The Blue Mage:
SuperSU = Super SuperUser (?)

Yo dawg, i heard you like being a superuser, so we put a super on superuser, so you can be super while being a superuser...
[SuperSU] dimebagdan65:
Makes more sense than OG gangster... It's a Super version of SU, hence the name...
[SuperSU] shaggyskunk:
Titanium does give me the option to convert it to a system app.

Sent from Down The Rabbit Hole, using Tapatalk 2
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
This is indeed intentional, insiders joke.
[SuperSU] Pkt_Lnt:
Setting in Lux. I do not have installed, but it should be obvious if you look "package installer" and "vpn dialogs" is there default so you know when in right place. If you cannot figure it out,ask in the Lux thread.
[SuperSU] milojoseph:
i did it and it did not work
[SuperSU] Pkt_Lnt:
This needs to be solved in the Lux thread, not SuperSU, please.
[SuperSU] milojoseph:
but actually its a superSu feature so im in the right thread. If lux created tapajack then i would have went to them. I searched the this thread and people are having the same problem.
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
Point Lux's author at this, he'll know how to handle it (works from v2.09):

https://github.com/Chainfire/libsup...infire/libsuperuser/HideOverlaysReceiver.java

This is not going to be "fixed" on SuperSU's end, because it's not broken (it's a security feature). Neither is Lux, by the way.
[SuperSU] Mardon:
http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu

website is down
[SuperSU] XaeonBE:
Can't get the SU binary working getting the error:

There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem.

This is a common issue. But i don't have access to the super SU website (it's offline???) to download the official CF auto root files.
[SuperSU] bgcngm:
Try installing the latest beta.
[SuperSU] XaeonBE:
Is that somewhere downloadable for the I9505 because I don't know if it's me but I can't access the website.
[SuperSU] zadigre:
Try this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55581425

It's the beta thread for supersu... To my best of knowledge, there's no bug in this beta version. One of the last messages in this thread has a direct download for the latest version.

Envoyé de mon SM-N900W8 en utilisant Tapatalk
[SuperSU] XaeonBE:
I can just flash this with cwm?
[SuperSU] zadigre:
Yes you can flash the zip file in recovery...

I'm doing it every time I'm flashing a new rom nightly.

Envoyé de mon SM-N900W8 en utilisant Tapatalk
[SuperSU] tshot:
Site is down.
[SuperSU] cpelatan:
Hi

Just had the same problem

Miror of the CWM flashable zip 2.02

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567719420
[SuperSU] benjamen50:
This is driving me mad. I'm trying to root my GT-i9305T (Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE 4G 2GB RAM)

On 4.3 with Knox tried reflashing stock room / flashing root, supersu just crashes... Already tried the play store procedure...
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
No logcat of the crash equals no help given
[SuperSU] Hybridz_08:
just 9 thanks away……

The greatest developer of all time'-chainfire,

Is just 9 thanks away from 50,000.

Hit the thanks button now, for his excellent work, n let him reach the milestone.
[SuperSU] parkerj7uc:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] I am on Safestrap and have flashed many ROMs for it. My question is a dev put out a ROM for safe strap s4. We have always kept root when flashing. With this new build from att we loose root. When you go to SuperSU apk(2.02) it says binary need to be installed. So I flashed super su thru recovery. Still says the same thing. So I got an idea to use towel root. I got the no binary message removed but know I get to the message where it wants to install the next step. I have to do the normal way because of the special recovety. But it fails every time. Any advice or solutions would be grateful as I am trying to fix this for a lot of people. Thank you for your time sir.

”The Android people are free to do exactly what they are told.”
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
I have no idea how safestrap works. Elaborate?
[SuperSU] parkerj7uc:
We have a locked boot loader and safe strap is a custom recovery using twrp to be available after boot check. I don't know a lot if details. On this ROM when you start SuperSU it says "no su binarys installed" but flashing a supersu zip doesn't fix it as it usually does. There is something from letting them be installed. I guess I have a lot more reading to do. Thank you for your time.

”The Android people are free to do exactly what they are told.”
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
v2.10 beta posted - http://xdaforums.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
[SuperSU] chandarakk:
not work N5100 after upgrad to 4.4.2 even 2.10beta too
[SuperSU] RoRoToXiC:
Big Issue

Ok so I installed this ok and it runs very well and all but there is 1 major issue... whenever I reboot I get stuck in a boot loop n I av to reinstall d OS or recover from a backup I created... can anyone help me with this?
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
Did you try 2.01 as well? What happens exactly? Which recovery?

Not unless you provide more information, such as: which device, which recovery, which SuperSU version, how you install it, etc.
[SuperSU] m23439:
I am starting to get messages which state that SU has silently denied a call. In the log there are 3 entries with the word "Phone" and a red hash sign against this.

Why would SU deny calls?

Any help appreciated

Thanks
[SuperSU] AMANAPPU:
popup screen

Sir,U see the problem plz help me i also install gravity box PLZ CHECK THE ATTACHMENT

white background and white font
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
SuperSU has no reason to deny calls. I'd be very suspicious to see the Phone app call su in the first place. Very fishy.

Anyway, the popup you are seeing is because the Phone app has *not* been granted root access by you before, and thus requests while the screen is off are silently denied (as opposed to turning on the screen and presenting you with a popup).

GravityBox issues should go to the GravityBox thread, not the SuperSU thread. If you run Xposed-y thingies, all bets are off, and all support is gone. In SuperSU settings you can change the SuperSU theme though, maybe that helps.
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
v2.11 has been posted to the beta thread
[SuperSU] chandarakk:
bro i use Cwm install 2.0.2 amd 1.80. and v2.10 after that open supper su it has stop work also update supper su from store still same and show no binery install ......... dont know from y
[SuperSU] Suppresed:
Automatically grant root permissions is broken, It will keep asking. Tested with Pro too.
[SuperSU] bestfil:
It's for sure xposed. Precisely it's kill app feautre by back key in WANAM XPOSED.

Regarding that I can't add systema android (1000) to accepted, because the popup from supersu with granting access is visible, but "touchless".

ROM http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s3/development-i9305/rom-galaxy-s3-lte-jb-4-3-mod-t2607321; MOD 7

Shall I provide logcat Mr Chainfire?
[SuperSU] HorstiG:
Hello, I have Problems with Stormbird Backup Pro (root) after Update SuperSU 2.11. Stormbird crashes. With SuperSU 2.10 no problems.

Galaxy S3, Liquid Smooth KK - LS-KK-v3.2-2014-09-24-i9300, Boeffla kernel Omni NG 2.4 Beta 6
[SuperSU] mindmajick:
Try the correct thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2868133

-> Sent from my mind to your screen
[SuperSU] HorstiG:
Ohh, sorry and thanks for the Link.
[SuperSU] mindmajick:
No harm, no foul.

-> Sent from my mind to your screen
[SuperSU] bhushan46:
Hello ,

I disabled my knox on samsung galaxy note 2 , but now it is giving me fc's that knox has stopped. Any solution???

Gallery and video also stops unfortunately.
[SuperSU] Krunk83:
This happens to me too. I'm on version 2.02.

OnePlus
[SuperSU] CamoGeko:
Sounds like a ROM or App issue.

Sent using N⁴ with Android L
[SuperSU] bhushan46:
I am on latest pure stock kitkat with NI1 bootloader
[SuperSU] Mace68:
This exact same issue, regarding the exact same apps, brought me here. I'm glad that it's not just me like it usually is lol.

I would like to add that during the prompt's countdown to allow access or not it's not just the dialog that's unresponsive, it's the entire phone (including the hardware buttons).

I would love a solution so let me know if there's anything you need from me.
[SuperSU] Pkt_Lnt:
Sounds like the Tapjacking protection in settings; it will be on by default on install. Are you using a screen brightness control that uses overlays like Lux or Velis Auto Bright? If so see if you can whitelist SuperSU in those app settings.
[SuperSU] Mace68:
Thanks but I don't use any of those. However I did figure out a very strange workaround. I have no lockscreen security, just swipe unlock. The instant the SuperSU prompt came up I locked the phone with the power button. I then pushed the power button again to turn the screen on. I kept swiping repeatedly until the screen unlocked, maybe 10-15 seconds. The SuperSU prompt was still there and then allowed me to select the grant button. I did it all over again and successfully duplicated the process to make sure it wasn't random.
[SuperSU] bestfil:
I've got the same problem and I can't add system android 1000 which is responsible for kill active app (wanam feature).
[SuperSU] Mace68:
This tip might help. I copied it from the FAQ on the official Wanam thread. (

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/app-wanam-xposed-customize-stock-t2383484 )

Q: I'm getting some annoying Root notifications

A: Check "Trust System User" and Uncheck "Show notifications" on SuperSU App

If that doesn't help maybe a Wanam bug report is in order. Just doesn't seem like it would be a SuperSU bug.
[SuperSU] Feldroid:
Where can I go to download supersu 2.1.1 beta

Thanks
[SuperSU] kingvortex:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2868133
[SuperSU] triathlete66:
http://xdaforums.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
[SuperSU] bestfil:
Thanks Mace68.

SuperSU doesn't recognise "1000" process as system's so it doesn't work for me.

Did it helped You?

I'll try beta supersu.
[SuperSU] muccioli:
Is possible use original recovery to flash SuperSU?

I have rooted razrHD xt925, android 4.4.2, with SuperSU 2.0.1 installed.

The problem is: i have a file "recovery-from-boot-p" and when flash Philz i needed Volume+ to enter in Philz, that is ok to re-root phone, but philz is not installed. I needed to re-flash Philz to flash SuperSU, its a socks.

I'm afraid to rename the file and Philz not have the option to correction. I try to find if option is ok, but did not succeed.

Thanks

P.S> I have this files too:

Install-recovery.cfg

install-recovery.sh

Need delete or rename too?
[SuperSU] remo0073:
No

Only custom recovery

CWM TWRP or Philz

Install SU from play store if already rooted
[SuperSU] Mace68:
I didn't try it since I already had it working with the strange workaround I posted several posts up.
[SuperSU] muccioli:
Ok. Thanks.

In the play store is version 2.01, not 2.02, but thanks.
[SuperSU] egingell:
Take the APK out of the ZIP file and install it.

Sent from: SGS2 - JB 4.1.2 GB27 / SGS4 - JB 4.2.2 MF9
[SuperSU] muccioli:
Thanks, it is Works.
[SuperSU] donnabelmartie:
Do we have to wait first for Chainfire to release a different version when the official L comes out?
[SuperSU] mindmajick:
This works on android L for the nexus 7 just fine.
[SuperSU] 0lamorena13:
Just rooted my phone (1sttime) n After rooting I did the rooting check n its all good then I read the detailed analysis wich says the following. What to do next. ..
[SuperSU] khairulez:
Install busybox.
[SuperSU] Ansem:
Hi! i have an Galaxy S3 I9305. With this latest superSu 2.02 every time i have the same error: i don't have binaries :( I have tried to install with different roms, but still I always have the same error! How can i resolve? :(
[SuperSU] 0lamorena13:
I did installed busybox
[SuperSU] S2_brickmaker:
Try install Su 2.01 reboot, then install a root app, " titanium backup" and test to see if everything works.
[SuperSU] chandarakk:
confirm not work zip via cwm samsung 4.4.2
[SuperSU] phil2sat:
I have a problem on my sgs4 4.4.2 with supersu 2.02

I use xposed and wanam also lonpress back to kill app. Everytime i do a longpress, supersu window pops with android system [uid] 1000. So far a known procedure.

But only on this popup i cant press any buttons and so i cant grant access and have to wait till countdown runs out. Very strange.

Any suggestions?

Thx

phil2sat

Ok after some reading solved...

If popup appears, locked phone, unlocked and pressed grant.
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
v2.12 beta ready for your test - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55846076&postcount=202
[SuperSU] bflmpsvz:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION]: I have problem installing SuperSU binaries on unofficial CM11 builds. Normal install method says process unsuccessfull. Is possible to overcome this constraint. I was told this is because this ROM uses kernel with TWRP recovery. SU coexisted fine while CWM was used. If I install alternate kernel (also using TWRP) then SU binaries are able to install (but I want to stick with CM's kernel for obvious reason). Looking for solution! Any chance to send debug log and find a solution....ta