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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Is it just me or are we completely out of context here? Also, soon-ish.

Отправлено с моего Transformer TF101 через Tapatalk
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kurk_droog:
Tell me what is wrong about the 2.3.7 firmware? Its stable, fast.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Its laggy when scrolling through the app drawer. .especially when youre outside you can see that it doesnt manage to get 60 fps..

Gesendet von meinem LT26i mit Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
There's nothing wrong with it, but there's nothing significantly special about it.

If I paid 500 for a tv i'd expect led. Not LCD and led 'coming soon'.

Especially when they have the cheek to tell me its upgradeable on the box!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] adam1000rr:
I never said anything about the firmware.. I like the phone, just not happy with Sony's customer service.

P.s. as you can see by my signature, my XS is currently getting a new display!

P.p.s. Sorry, my earlier post was supposed to go in the warranty thread! Don't know how that got mixed up.. :confused:

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
Well no one wants a laggy ICS and we waited this far for this update and still we can.

I personally felt two Samsung devices with ICS GSII and a Note, they both looked alike and they both had some problems running some apps like asphalt which use gyro sensor.

Like it always gets stuck.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
you can't firmware-update the screen or the camera

there are no phones out there running ICS with this ppi density and a 12 mpix screen

but ICS will come, on schedule, in a couple of weeks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wing_zero8556:
Lol a firmware update to change the hardware..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
You mean "Couple Weeks" "+" ;)

by Sony that we have seen, I won't be surprised not to see the update till the last minute in Q2...Just saying.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] a4rocks:
Not really. Considering they totally struck to ICS deadline for the Arc S, Ray and Neo V, I am pretty hopeful they will keep to their promise. You can find solace in the fact that when a company gives support upto Gingerbread for a legacy device like X10 and also offer ICS updates for phones you would never think that would have like Xperia Mini, Pro, etc., they are creating a sense of trust. I wouldn't want to buy a Samsung or HTC because I know any old development will be shunned and left in the lurch (something like a Galaxy S well capable of ICS). I hope Sony will be able to create and instill a sense of trust and reliability among all its customers
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] depulle87:
+1
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Okay now something on topic will the ics update also include the people app or the stock Sony contacts application from gingerbread?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Something in between the two.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Umm interesting you mean like skinned like stock Sony but inside ics people app?

Better social integration? and no 96*96 images but higher resolution images?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It follows the same theme as the old one, but social is there and high-res pics should be too.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pezo:
Should be? People are still complaining about the pictures in ICS, this is a limit of Google isn't it?

Sent from the Delta Quadrant using a transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It's 256x256, a framework limitation. You can override it easily, but why would you store 5MP photos for a contact picture?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] piafinho:
Hum... if it is time to make questions I have a couple :)

- Does the lockscreen provides the same functions as the current one? Any improvements on this area?

I have a couple of small improvements I would like to have on the lock screen.

Wouldn't mind to make some code contributions if I could get access to the Lock Screen code under proper NDA. :)

Anyone with proper contacts within Sony can drop me a PM if this is feasible? ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Not really, pretty much the same.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gizzmoffm:
Adding birthday events to contacts would be nice.

Google added this in the ICS people app, but afaik Sony didn't include that feature in the 2011 ICS Updates...

To be honest, I find this ridiculous :-/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yakandu:
you can add birthday to the contacts and show it on the calendar, just edit the contact and add it through google or phone
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gizzmoffm:
Of course, you can always add birthdays from the google contacts or gmail website and configure to include it in the google calendar.

What I meant is being able adding the birthday event from the people/contacts app on the phone without an extra app.

As my wife once said "aaaaw, even my old cheap phone could do that!"...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
Does any one knows if it will be some software update for the focus camera problems?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reptile64:
Only God knows!! Now, pray to the Lord!! :D

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
Is it a common problem? Or not? My device is 12w16
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
I understand the difference bbetween LCD and led haha, terrible analogy I apologize
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I use facebook for all my birthdays: each day with a green dot is a birthday.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] waiflih:
The included facebook app does that
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pezo:
Many of my contacts don't have facebook so that's pretty useless to me.

Sent from the Delta Quadrant using a transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] harfot:
...and I don't use Facebook :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Just checked with my friend. The contacts app allows showing birthdays in calendar.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] elfeneco:
I can't find where it's possible... I did it through Google Agenda and it works fine but directly from phone :confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Only in ICS.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kris93:
Re: Ics Release IN JUNE / JULY IN THIS YEAR 2012

Hi Markus,

Just to update you about what I have came to known from one of my friend who is in Dev Team in Sony Mobile.

He personally said that Sony is just guessing to update Xperia S by late Q2 2012 but it hasn't been confirmed and the rollout can be pushed to one month later i.e. July end / August begining. I don't have problems in delays as I am happy with Gingerbread.

As a marketting support member you should provide correct information not like your previous comment. Be sure what you write, double check with your team before revealing any Plans as I dnt think that Update for Xperia S will arrive before July End/ August mid or so.

Your incorrect dates or false promises will effect market of Sony mobile as it is already lackingin support to their customers in timely manner. I don't want to compare but this is Truth.

We must wait longer:(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Of course a completely anonymous person who never gave credible information before is telling the truth.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
That person that just started taking over the forums is not a Sony account. It's just someone random posting things that aren't true. End of june is end of june, there is no reason to expect any more delay at all.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gbil:
My sources also told me that the final version is expected to hit the providers end of May for the final approval, with the user release in June.

So I can assume end of June is the correct date.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
which providers?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I'm pretty sure they have the final build already. So end of June for US maybe, but Nordics are getting it earlier. I guess they'll start the rollout when it's certified. I heard they applied for RST (Russia State Test) already so it should not take too long now.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] KL643:
Only view days left ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Okay, looks like they failed the next week deadline. Looks like it's all up to PTCRB now.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
I hope they follow device release schedule and SO-02D gets it first since it was released two weeks prior to LT26.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Hardly. We can get it without carrier testing, but the SO-02D won't...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gizzmoffm:
That's great news. Hope we are not talking about different things...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
For field tests, you do know they don't operate on retail devices correct? These devices are tested on earlier prototypes, after it passes, it's then moved to Operator Acceptance units (regional uses these for operator approvals). It's not that "only" operator uses these, but also distributors for testing purposes. So it's not that after the field test passes, it goes straight to consumer devices. There are at least 2-3 more approval processes, including Google for the final call.

Usually if the early timeline is true, by now I would see the OA unit's firmware in EMMA already, but all I see is a debugged version meant for early prototypes (not even OA's can use these), and the Japanese's GX FW. No where is the LT26i ICS firmware seen...:confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
There's more for the people with more EMMA access (internal mostly). Also RosTest tests final software, but the hardware can be a brown phone, as long as it has the same exact modem.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
I wounder why (?) there is no developer beta release for xperia s:confused: , or did i miss it something if yes sry:D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
I do have internal EMMA access...:rolleyes: Regular users with no internal accounts won't see debug firmwares obviously...just to add topping to the discussion, I have an XS "brown" device with me also, and I just got ICS last week, and I still don't think it's ready at all performance wise.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
There are, you bet.

It' just that these RC/beta builds have not been leaked/shared...

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What's the date of your "beta" build?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Weird. What's your build number? 350 and up run really, really nice on my friend's device.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
common! of course i dont care about sony secret services !

sony playing CIA / MI5 keeping their release save i

but i do care about the leaked version !

edit : any teaser about ics, e.i in xperia x10 was 720p what about Xperia S :eek:

edit: so what the point of waiting so eagerly?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lukesjeans:
From my understanding sony isn't releasing beta is because there is a bug in bootloader (I own arc so I'm not sure)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
There isn't a bug in bootloader as far as I know ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] neotarum:
K900, do you know if Sony has dropped naming one app 4 times? As if there isn't enough junk there already, they have link for alarms, world clock, timer and stopwatch separately! Small, but annoying. it should be like ios, clock then relevant tab.

Thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
there is a bug in bootloader...

u cannot hotboot kernels...

fastboot boot kernel.elf

DOES NOT WORK!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yakandu:
maybe they are trying to fix it
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
it's usefull for fast booting, right??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lullesha:
<_<''

Not sure if joking or...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
yes...

if u can hotboot kernel then u can test new kernels without the need to replace the MAIN kernel on the boot partition of the device... its great for testing kernels and the test kernel doesnt get permenantly written on the boot partition...

also if we can hotboot kernel u can use my auto-rooting kernel to root ANY firmware without the need to match the kernel to the firmware version ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
I was not kidding,

I do not understand almost nothing of kernels
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
I was on the phone with a Sony rep, just confirmed the usual, likely to be late June but perhaps that's just a late date to cover their asses.

One can only hope!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] optik19918:
i don't understand whi a colosus like sony dose not fix that with all the engineers working in there o.O

i'm a bit dissapointed about sony this time
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Oh yes, sorry forgot about the hotboot problem :o
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
because of propietary partitions

on a new OS with new google-mandatory partition requirements
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Mostly because reflashing the bootloader on a phone is always risking a hard brick. We have JTAG for this case, but other people (most people) don't even know what that is. So it's quite obvious Sony doesn't want to take that risk without a very strong reason. The ICS update might give us an updated bootloader though, and since the problem was in the kernel sources, I guess it's possible to find the fix by analyzing the differences between self-built and stock kernels which is what I'm going to do. Even if we can't hotboot it, it'll be simpler if the fix is available openly.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gbil:
350+ is not available on EMMA for Xperia S only for SO-2D, but 350+ for Xperia S is available to SE engineers and testers via another tool they have.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Yep, pretty much. As I said, they're keeping some really strong security there.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] a4rocks:
Is the leak of the Sony ST26i benchmark details revealing Android 4.0 any sort of news to the LT26i? Just asking because I saw the news of Engadget
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Not much. ST are budget devices, that might really be anything. For us SO-02D and LT26[ia] are of interest. Also Engadget is so freaking slow :P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
I wish my EMMA account would do more, it's just in the Update Service Pro level, since that's all we need as 'retailers'. Can't search through firmwares :(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] a4rocks:
What exactly is the full acronym of EMMA?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It's not actually an abbreviation. It's just Emma.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] a4rocks:
Ooh! It is basically a sort of developer-cum-retailer network right? Or is it something more?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It's basically a server/tool where all released firmwares are hosted for testers, developers, carriers and whatnot.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
I'm on .401 (April 19's build)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
xperia S??

the latest build from the 19th April?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] waiflih:
Guys: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...ream-sandwich-rollout-for-xperia-smartphones/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] carmello1911:
No news here.. :/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wing_zero8556:
well I guess until end of June comes around we can all stop speculating and asking :P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
Also, there should be another firmware hitting soon .75 firmware.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
How do you know this?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
It's an advanced update service, basically. It supports updating many devices at the same time, with the proper user account you can force to install specific regions and versions of software, ...

The account level I have is Update Service Pro. The only thing I can do with it is view the new firmware version and customization numbers before installing the update, and do simultaneous flashing. With my account level I can't flash older versions, change regions or reflash phones with a damaged build.prop.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
You have OA level, right? Can you check if the bootloader/kernel has changed? There was some word around here about doing the kernel sources right before ICS, maybe that's the thing? I'll check with my friend on Monday, work's out here today.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
Kernel 3.0.8
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
I guess this answers my question ;-)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
That's for .75? If they give us the sources, I'm pretty sure we'll get AOSP up and running in no time.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
nope...

GB will be on 2.6.35.x kernel

3.0.x kernel is for ICS
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
Oh, I thought you asked for the ICS one. Woops :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Um okay not that it concerns me but did Sony just forget about updating the sola to ics?

Late June sounds good btw after my exams :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gohtraw:
I really loved all my Sony Ericsson hardware so far - sturdy stuff... but they really suck at software support.

Guess I'll have to get a Nexus instead :-(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kutbinahar:
I was so happy with my phone and was recommending almost all my friends but trust me after sony announced abt ics i feel guilty on my decision nd really really really sony has cheated their customers

Now i am on my way to sell this **** and go for htc one may be

Even for my wife i was planning sony but it really sucks NO ICS UNTIL NOW

SONY NEEDS TO GROW UP AND LEARN FROM GOOGLE TO BE A HARD AND SMART WORKER

BYE BYE SONY

Worst worst worst support NEVER EXPECTED

Guys u see all my posts just see how i was impressed nd was happy about xperia s but now really they just literally hurt me

Sent from my Sony Xperia S LT26I
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
What pisses me off further is that SonyXperia tweets:

"You asked for it, we delivered! More details on ICS update for our Xperia devices: http://ow.ly/9YKT6"

Deliver what? You should deliver what you promised first and then the rest.

Now all the hopes goes to CM7 and FreeXperia TEAM.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] k1nggg:
Don't worry we'll get ICS before christmas :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] d.iverieli:
Selling both Xperia S this weekend and moving Samsung S2 and HTC One X! **** you Sony!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Selling phones doesn't help. We bought this product because we loved it, software(as promised) and hardware.

I am not going to sell but instead, I would like for Sony to hear our voice and listen to what we say.

We buy the phone and we have certain expectation. They want to optimize? Do it! You make the user experience better? Do it!

but keep the 2012 devices on your top priority. If not, many of us came from Xperia arc or arc S. If you wanted to update those first, you should have told us not to buy Xperia S since the ICS upgrade is not in April but its in July.

Sony, you don't have many people around anymore. Even carrier don't want to lose by customer adapting Sony's product.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kutbinahar:
Me also already ordered htc one x and selling this **** really i just waste my money

Sent from my Sony Xperia S LT26I
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
Guess sony pushes back the update it seems,

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_pushes...ditches_ota_as_an_update_option-news-4041.php

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...1-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] keulieminogue:
I think it should not be a discussion about ICS - It would be nice to have it. My problem is - and i think its the problem for most of us... The software for this nice piece of hardware is a crap - and the update politics is a mess... at http://talk.sonymobile.com i posted this:

****

Hi Guys,

sometimes I think some people are paid or think we are all idiots - sorry for that words... sorry.

First of all there is to say... yes it seems like the Xperia S is a stuning piece of hardware. Its well designed and it rocks - it could rock...

but the software is bad...

1. I got it with .62 firmware and GPS is not working well, 5-30 Minutes... no GPS and i had to restart my phone... with .73 - the GPS seems to work - but my tracking app "Android Tacho" stopps tracking after 10-50 Minutes.

2. with EDGE there is the Dit Dit Dit Dit (or how is it called) bug, while making a phonecall

3. I could not connect my XPS through bluetooth to any omputer i have (same as former posts) AND I cannot connect to my SONY VAJO... (are you kidding?)

4. there is terrible noise while making a phone call through a good Plantronics headset (i never had this with other phones)

5. There is no official date for ICS - I red on some websites it will we to the end of the 2nd quarter ???are you kidding all the customers???

6. There are no changelogs for fixes - am I wrong?

7. Updates for some regions are late or the will not come ???are you kidding the customers???

Sorry to say that - and ok its not 100% Sony's fault - BUT learn from the guys who making it right. I don't like Apple - but there updates are fast and worldwide...

I think i send my XPS back... I am disappointed

Cheers

****

For me... i think i send it back and maybe i pay 200€ more for a HTC ONE X... but no IPhone... ^^

cheers
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] emorej:
goodbye xperia S?:( thats too long to wait and its not yet sure if it will come on later of 2nd qtr. this the first android manufacturer that making their 2012 flagship last on their update list, it sucks, SONY where did you learn all this this strategies:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Im getting the One x!Goodbye!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
Wow, what a hornet's nest this thread has become.

I'm loving the device and I may not even upgrade to 4.0 when it's offered after reading this:

http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...erences-between-gingerbread-and-ics#more-3611
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
No kidding! O_o

Late Q2.. wow Sony .. just wow!!

F**$$&#*@-**#*&!&!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
So it may come a little later than expected?

Okay, fine :) No reason to rage and ditch the phone. I still love the phone, with or without ICS.

I honestly don't understand how people could be causing such a fuss over an update that doesn't bring all that much to the table anyways (a little more speed which probably won't be noticible because its already fast, and a new browser)...In my opinion the phone is fantastic the way it is and ICS is well...the icing on the cake.

The update will come, but I guess there isn't a lot of patience in some people :/

/twocents
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Remember that people's objective in buying anything differs from one person to another. It is not totally about patience here but plans people put ahead of themselves to go on with their lives.

Some people do care, and some people don't as much but always there is something in your life that matters and may bring stress to your mind.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
Yep, and I'm also welcome to my own opinion :)

But anyways, I welcome the update if/when it comes, until then, I'm happy with my phone the way it is. The battery problem is pretty well fixed in .73, and I just got it set up how I like it, so for me, they can take their time. I have more on my plate to stress me out than a phone update.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] k1nggg:
Xperia S shouldn't have stability problems with 1 gig of ram and dual core
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
To all people moaning and *****ing about ICS delay:

I am not taking Sony's side, but I will probably see you in next few months moaning and *****ing about your new handsets, that something is not working, this is bad, that is worse, etc, etc. Getting Galaxy S 2? Seriously? One year old phone, only because it's got ICS earlier? Your are joking, right?

Goodbye, we don't need you here.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
I believe you are correct but I am still apprehensive considering all the detail in the link.