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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
Here's the funny thing.

When i was on the phone with Verizon I mentioned that I had a Thunderbolt and a Bionic before the nexus.

She went on to say "Those all had to have updates because they weren't working properly either."

What the hell is that? The thunderbolt came out A YEAR ago. We're still waiting for a proper 4G phone from Verizon? They're ok with selling phones that don't work very well?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedoguy:
Before i rooted my gnex I was doing speed test constantly the first week i had it, I averaged around 22 - 30 mbps down, 5 mbps up

Since rooting I have averaged around 10-13 down, and 3-5 up

has anyone had this problem?

the roms I have used are gummy 76 gummy 8.2, and now bamf 1.0
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DaRkL3AD3R:
Unreal. I think the TB got an update to fix its radio issues what, 2-3 months after it launched? Since then it was good to go no problem.

And that's a locked up HTC phone with the only connection to Google being that it was running their OS.

This GN is a GOOGLE PHONE for christs sake and yet it's lagging behind lots of other non-Google phones. Then the fact that they put these heinous radios in to the flagship Google phone of the year is just... wow. Who failed on this one? Sammy or Google? I'm not entirely sure but whoever did needs to get this $299 piece of junk fixed. Really, just disgraceful to have a Nexus phone go this long without ANY word from either company on what exactly is the problem here with these horrendous radios.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
How long did you run those radios 4. I'm running the 4.4 radios and having no problems at all. I suggest you call verizon and get a replacement phone now!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You are incorrect.

The Thunderbolt didn't get its first update until 1-2 months in. During that time, the radios would cause random reboots. This was never present until the first ota. It took a few more months before an ota was released to fix just that and update Froyo. So you are looking at at least 4-5 months before the Thunderbolt radios were worth a damn, officially.

Of course there were 4223423453213 leaks in between there, but officially, the Thunderbolt was far worse off.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
I had so much LESS trouble with my thunderbolt. Honestly, the phone's radio never caused a single issue for me. It's still more solid than my nexus....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
I've ran all of them for at least a week. The problems persist.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
Bad device then. Call Vzw fast!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
I did, their solution was "wait."

haha.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rem3Dy:
sounds more like defective phones. I have 4 on my family plan with zero connection issues. 2 rooted on 4.04 radios and 2 stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
That's vzw :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DaRkL3AD3R:
That's what I'm saying. Did he not read my signature which I haven't updated yet? lol I've had the Thunderbolt since like May, and even with the supposedly bad radio leak it was STILL leaps and bounds better than this Samsung radio.

Funny note though, I decided to switch on 4G today when I went for a ride around my town, apparently we have "Extended 4G coverage" where I live and I was getting a solid 4 bars on the highway and in most residence areas. Of course not at my house though. Well long story short, when I had 4 bars of 4G I decided to check the dbm readout and sure enough, -110 36asu. Very peculiar. I thought maybe the bars are a glitch and I really do have terrible signal, so I ran a www.speakeasy.net/speedtest and sure enough I was pulling 30mbps down 10mbps up. The connection was practically instant too.

So how does -110dbm 36asu = 4 bars when on every other 4G phone, 4 bars is generally -75dbm or lower?

Could it be the phone is just misreporting signal strength? The dbm readout at least? I know for a fact I AM getting worse signal than any other phone I have on Verizon, but my connection is fairly solid. Not much worse than the other phones. But the reported numbers are horrendous. I don't know what to believe anymore.

But if it does turn out that the phone really does have terrible radios and the reported signal strengths are accurate then eff it. I just give up. I'll deal with it since it works.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
For one, no other device reports LTE signal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
Dbm's scale your 3g signal. Not 4g. Just A tid bit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
This changed in ICS and shows according to current connected network.

Just a tidbit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DaRkL3AD3R:
I think adrynaline is right one this one, it IS reporting LTE signal. Once I switched over to 3G the asu part changes drastically.

Alright so we can explain the weird dbm for LTE connections, but that doesn't explain CDMA only mode. I've seen the dbm go from -80 to -120, 4 bars to 0. Yet it mostly hovers in 3G mode at really bad dbm's/bars, like -100 to -120, and generally 1 bar or none at all. My connection is stable, but slow at these moments in signal strength.

I really don't know what to make of this. I want to believe theres some hope for an update to the radio drivers that may boost signal to noise ratios on 3G (as obviously LTE is fine) but it doesn't seem like that would be a possibility.

I guess time will tell.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
At least some of this is inaccurate numbers. I have made calls at -120 which historically has been a no signal range.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DaRkL3AD3R:
Likewise. For -120 they were pretty smooth calls too, no noticeable hiccups in quality not to mention no disconnects.

So looking like possible misreported dbm? I mean like you said, -120 means no signal period. 0 bars. On just about any other phone that triggers the "No Service" notifications and you can't make a call or access data. Yet strangely enough, I can keep on rolling using my phone in a dead state like that lol

I do however have confirmed regardless of any misreported numbers, bandwidth is confirmed a lot slower in same environment (as same as it gets in the wild) when compared to other 3G phones. Droid X, Thunderbolt and Razr all get substantially better 3G speeds compared to the GN when tested at the same location at the same time, one after another. I've done multiple tests and the GN is consistently 1.0 - 2.1mbps slower on the download than the other phones, with the Thunderbolt oddly scoring the best 3G speeds.

So what I get from all this is that the radios in these Sammy phones are definitely of the lower grade, but they aren't nearly as bad as they are reporting to System Status.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
That sounds like a decent description.

My phone will also become quite the little heater in my pocket sometimes. It's the first phone I've ever "felt" get really really hot in my pocket.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
Well, they're mailing me a replacement... Crossing my fingers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aloa64:
mine was dropping out constantly too when i got it. got it replaced and it works fine now
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
Yes. The GN will basically report only 5 different signals: 120, ~110 ~100 (the exact number varies with radio version), ~93 and ~75. The signal will bounce between the different readings when it falls between them. So if you're getting -95dbm of signal, it will bounce between -100 and -90 rather than show you -95. Download the radio signal app mentioned on Page 1 and look at your signal over a period of time. You'll see 4 RANGES of signal characterized by the bounces between the 5 data points.

It's really odd and I honestly would completely ignore whatever the phone tells you its signal is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
Think what you want ignorance is bliss

Just a tid bit. Dbm scales 3g fools!

I love it when non skilled people give bad info.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I will believe Anandtech and my own eyes over you.

A genius, you are not. I do agree about non skilled people giving bad info though. So go fly a kite and stop spreading it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
And you are, of course, totally correct. Thanks for backing it up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
When do you get your new phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
?????!!!!???:banghead:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You are a special person.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
Tomorrow, when i fly back home, I'm out on business :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] digitalpirate:
My mom and I bought galaxy nexuses about a month ago had the same problem. Total 4g data drop to nothing then back to 3g. We both returned the nexus and got rezounds and couldn't be happier. The only thing I'm not happy with the rezound is how hot it gets. Good luck to your new one I didn't have the patience to swap them out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axne1:
So I was told. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
I actually have a rezound as well. It does get pretty hot, you're right.

It's a good phone, but I can't stand sense or being that far behind. Mine is updated to the latest ICS leak and is not bad, but it's not great...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DaRkL3AD3R:
Very odd behavior for sure.

I have however seen stuff between the points you listed. For example, I've seen -83 and -85. Seen -103 as well. But it definitely does feel like it "clicks" to set numbers instead of reporting exact dbm data.

All that's fun and games, but seriously why is it that my GNexus pulls in far worse 3G bandwidth than my other phones in the same location at the same time? Surely there's more to it then the odd ways it reports signal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah I am at -93 right now and bouncing between that and -83.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gtab55:
My Gnex was terrible at keeping its data early in the year, but now it has been keeping it fairly well. The only time it will struggle is when I answer a call on 3G and then hang up it will have a hard time getting back data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SirVilhelm:
What is the ASU measurement of?

At work I have absolute sh1t reception. This was true when the TB first came out as well. It took several radio updates before I could get solid LTE at my desk. I am hoping the same will be true with the GNex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chalk:
I'm having quite a few issues also. Complete signal loss, frequent 4G > 3G > 4G, terrible battery life, and a random reboot or two. Having this issue on two different GNexus phones

Picked them up from Amazon since they were $99 and I'm trying to figure out if this is a hardware or software issue. Really hate to be stuck with this phone if none of this can be fixed via software updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
My first one from Amazon had the problem. My replacement from them does not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jayrod1980:
Not to troll but this why I bought a GSM nexus and didn't jump ship to Verizon's massive network. Everyone knocks tmobile for only having hspa but what good is lte when they suck battery like like crazy (unless you have a razor maxx which doesnt matter) and are subject to outages and other headaches on a regular basis? I think a lot of the issues is the lte module is crammed tight with the other hardware strangling reception. That would explain the weak lte and 3g data signal. My GSM version has no reception issues and uses far less battery sitting in marginal areas in comparison to my old nexus s.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
That's pretty much exactly why i replaced mine. So i'll let you know tomorrow when i get my new one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] swaggerjacker:
I've owned three of these phones. The first couldn't hold the 4G signal, and failed to hand off to 3G. It also wouldn't charge. The second just had the same signal problem. I had numerous dropped calls, and messages failing to send.

Since my contract with Verizon was finished, I switched to AT&T , bought a Note and haven't had any issues. Well, I do have one. I barely get a signal at home downstairs. Note that downstairs is still above ground. Verizon's network is extremely fast, but buggy as hell. There are constant outages, and LTE is hell on batteries.:(

I did purchase another Nexus because of the firmware update, and the phone has been flawless. Returning it today because I paid way too much for it. I didn't know, until reading this thread that Amazon was selling them for 99 bones. Not sure which direction I want to go. Keep the Note (super huge, thought I'd get used to it), or go back to a fast but buggy battery killing network.

I'd consider T-Mobile, but their best phone is the 1.2 GH GS2. I'm running out of time. Lol

Steve
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thor17:
So how do you demonstrate to Verizon that the phone is defective and it's not just because of the coverage area?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
ASU is the primary factor in GSM networks in whether or not your phone will hand-off to another tower. It's basically the same thing as dbm readings. ASU is the dbm reading calibrated to the minimum signal required to maintain a solid connection. Since each wireless technology propagates differently, there's different values for FDMA (LTE, WiMax) TDMA (GSM) and CDMA (1x, UMTS). In fact, even technologies that use similar air interfaces (like 1xCDMA and UMTS), may spread and bounce differently depending on the exact error-correction specs in each implementation.

These are the official formulas for GSM and UMTS. These are from Android's documentation. These are theoretical, as realistically, your phone will probably hand-off before it reaches 0 ASU.

GSM dbm=-113 + 2*asu. Meaing GSM won't work well below -113 dbm.

UMTS dbm=ASU - 116. Meaning UMTS won't work well below -116dbm.

I couldn't find the official formula for LTE, but it appears the formula Android uses for LTE is dbm=ASU-140, meaning it could use a signal as weak as -140, which is far below what the phone will actually show (I've never seen it go below -120). That's impressive error correction, if true, then again that's one of the benefits of OFDMA. It's also not surprising that the formula is similar to UMTS, since each channel is also code divided in OFDMA.

I haven't figured out the minimum for CDMA/EVDO. It seems to take more things into account, as I've seen -100 as 1 ASU and -95 as 2ASU.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chalk:
Good deal. Keep me/us posted.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SirVilhelm:
How do you convince VZW to give you another phone? Mine continues to drop cell/data even with the cpu bumped up
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] charlescom:
I just called them yesterday, I believe the best solution right now is just wait it out or try getting replacement refurbished Gnex as many as you can possibly get until you find the One without any severe banding 3g/4g LTE data/voice connection issue.

There are so many units with one problem or the other that if you are unlucky in your "lottery" you might have to go through at least 4-5 replacements before you get a satisfactory one.

For me, after talking with the customer service representative for the millionth time, I told them to take note of my phone call so that if these issues are not resolved I'll make sure to call them back for a hardware change & credit for my voice + data for 3 months of the time I wasn't able to use this device as a phone nor as a LTE device.

They do give you an advice saying turn LTE off and just use it CDMA only, but as they are still selling this as the 4G LTE phone, it almost sounds to me like you should not go beyond 80mph on your Ferrari... LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rem3Dy:
I love how these AT&T users keep citing Verizon's "continuous outages" (lol all 4 of them) when on AT&T I struggled to make a call 75% of the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
A quick Google search reveals ATT LTE growing pains as well. Less pronounced due to so few markets though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] swaggerjacker:
Laughter is sometimes used to hide ignorance.........I'm sure the AT&T users here could care less about your "struggles". I've been a Verizon user for almost a decade. Best network IMHO. However, their LTE network does have issues. When 4g went live in my area, there were many, and we still have issues with loss of 4G signal. The Nexus issue is not a knock on the network, but the phone itself. It took three to finally get one that worked for me. Btw, I'm currently using ATT and have experienced no problems with calls. Try dialing without laughing.

Steve
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
The new phone is flawless at least. It's definitely "like new," so that's good. I can't say yet whether the signal situation / heat is improved. It's looking like "no."

I've had far less gray unconnected bars it seems. That could easily be in my head, i'll keep you posted though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eallan:
I have a note and a Nexus as well. It's hard to decide which to use :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bgoodwin:
My phone was all but unusable on LTE, went to the Verizon store today, got the run around about an update due out any day now. Exchanged my Sim card, signal has been rock solid for the last 6 hours. Been in and out of 3g and 4g areas a couple of times, hand off has been fine. Fingers crossed.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SirVilhelm:
New SIM didn't work for me. What has worked SO FAR is turning off LTE and setting network to HOME only. I believe the issue is with tower hand off while the phone is sleeping.

Settings -> More... -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode changed to CDMA only

Settings -> More... -> Mobile Networks -> System Select changed to Home Only

So far so good *knocks on wood*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SirVilhelm:
^Two days of solid signal with the changes I made. I am going to switch back to CDMA/LTE and see if that changes my situation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bgoodwin:
Still good here on cdma/lte. Fingers still crossed.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Hellnation:
I know there are a lot of threads already about cases for my Samsung G II (Epic 4G Touch)

Heres the thing. I don't want a huge case. Why get a sleek thin phone just to put a bulky case on it?

What are some suggestions for a minimalist case that is better than just putting a sticker on it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] epdp14:
There are a few choices that I have found...

Hard Snap on Case - very thin but doesn't protect from drops very well

soft thin case very thin but I would imagine it would be hard to get in and out of a pocket from it "sticking" to your pants.

Trident Aegis case not as thin as the others, but definitely not bulky. Very good protection, no kickstand however.

Casemate Pop White case with kickstand pretty much like the aegis with a kickstand. I have one but I am not impressed with the build quality of the silicone. It flakes off in places due to the friction of pulling it out of a pocket.

For the "sticker" route the best I've found is:

Full Body Invisible Shield This will protect from scratches but not drops, etc.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] badname:
Got one of these a few months ago and couldn't be happier.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006EHO6EE/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1331457454&sr=8-1
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BrandoKC:
Incipio feather light has treated me well. Very sleek and light.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] trevoc1:
This is the case i have had since the phone came out. Love the case! Sleek, slim and protects your phone. There is a whole thread about this case. Price is great too. I highly recommend it!!

Hope that helped. Happy Hunting.

http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=36&products_id=147
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mikeymasonic:
I've been using this one since I got the phone, slim, sleek, and with a kickstand!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NJDYJM/ref=wms_ohs_product?tag=acleint-20
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jb8301:
I would personally have to say the Trident Ageis, very close to the otterbox line but available in more colors...plus they are a tad cheaper as well...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] regP:
doesn't really get more minimal than this. I have one on all 3 of my phones. comes in different colors.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattheyu:
I disagree. The matte version of Diztronic's (formerly TPU Cases) case does not stick at all. There is just enough of a texture to feel like you have a solid grip, but smooth enough that it never sticks in your pocket.

I have the same requirements in a case as the OP, and I think a TPU case is a great idea. It has protected my phone from a handful of short falls onto a variety of surfaces without an issue.

I purchased the case after reading this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1266308

I believe the overwhelming majority of reviews are positive for the case. Check out the Diztronic's page here: http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=36&products_id=147

I am curious about the Nillkin case, but considering they seem to be only available when ordering from China, and that in the past, I've had snap-on cases scratch phones, I am worried. Here is a review of a Nillkin case: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1485054
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
Buy a few different ones and figure out what you like best. I tried a few different styles of tpu/rubber case and ended up with a trident aegis. My phones in the past all had minimal rubber case or none but it just feels right on this phone.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] gbrown2036:
I want to automate the nightly build of CM7 but I'm having problems placing the build commands inside an executable script in Ubuntu. For some reason it doesn't like this command:

. build/envsetup.sh && brunch infuse4g

If I type this command into the terminal then it obviously works but when I place it inside an executable script then it doesn't run and I can't get the terminal window to even pause to see if there's an error message. Any idea how to automate everything? Both this script and the envsetup.sh script have execute permissions.

Here's my entire script:

cd ~/android/system/

~/android/system/vendor/cyanogen/get-rommanager

repo sync

[B]. build/envsetup.sh && brunch infuse4g[/B]

cp /home/greg/android/system/out/target/product/infuse4g/update-cm-7.2.0-RC0-Infuse4G-KANG-signed.zip /home/greg/Dropbox/Public

cp /home/greg/android/system/out/target/product/infuse4g/update-cm-7.2.0-RC0-Infuse4G-KANG-signed.zip.md5sum /home/greg/Dropbox/Public

Thanks,

Greg
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jt1134:
source build/envsetup.sh
[Samsung Infuse 4G] gbrown2036:
Getting closer. The source command runs fine when I type it into a terminal window but not when I place it inside a script.

cd ~/android/system/
~/android/system/vendor/cyanogen/get-rommanager
repo sync
[B]source[/B] build/envsetup.sh && brunch infuse4g

but now it says "7: source: not found". Thanks for your assistance.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jt1134:
you need to make sure it uses bash as its shell

ie: #!/bin/bash at the top of the script
[Samsung Infuse 4G] gbrown2036:
Looks like that did the trick. Thanks!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Raol Emostar:
If I download a zip file and it has an app in it, can i flash it? Theres a lot of out-of-market apps available on cloud storage sites like mediafire which have apps inside the zips. You have to extract it to get the APK file. My question being : Can i flash the zip file which has an app in it causing it to be installed as a system app? (Using recoveries)

P.S I'm really sorry if I've posted this in the wrong place but I'm in need of answers. I did search for the FAQ section. But I'm using tapatalk so I'm down to the phone view.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Mudiii:
Nooo buddy.. Flashable zip requires updater script n proper path to install... An ordinary zip is jus an compressed form of a file...

P.s you cant use an ordinary zip file to install apps via recovery... :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] st@matis:
Please do not post questions here

Mod please move or delete this one(again....)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Raol Emostar:
Thanks! Before this thread gets deleted. Again. :/ But 1 more, if i do flash it, does anything happen? Like, does the phone get bricked?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Mudiii:
It wont get flashed.. It will show error... Yeah may it can soft brick ua phone.... Wats fun in tryn wen yu knw it wont work... Act wise buddy .. :)

Don't be shy.. Juss hit thanks.. :)