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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
+1 here. I bought this because it looked good and is a premium product. After comparing with the iPad 2 in terms of smoothness and experience I sometimes wish I bought the iPad 3! ASUS I hope you get this product working they way it should be!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] randalltroy:
Asus has nothing to do with driver optimizations,thats Nvidia's job, and Googles job is to optimise 4.0.x.Asus can do all the tweaking they want, it wont matter if the other software and code, they are working with is crap

Asus isnt in the position to rewrite code bases.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] notoriouspk:
Htc one x runs ICS on Tegra3 a lot smoother than my prime go figure :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] randalltroy:
Is the X on 4.04 ot.4.03, there is a fairly big difference between the 2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] master1988:
So why can other manufactures deliver devices without or less problems especially in browsing?! And why help custom mods, kernels and roms to reduce such problems on prime while Asus is impossible to do anything like you said?

I'm OK with GPS problem cause it's a tablet. I could live with wifi. But i don't want to be a 600€ beta tester. My sgs 1/2 had also some probs in the beginning but the devs were able to bring on theit mods.

So Asus make our devices work as promised and give us/devs full access to our primes!!!

So no personal treatment but i think Asus can do more on our primes. And with more encouragement a lot faster...

Edit 1: btw i think google and especially nvidia should help/work on this problems too. But as manufacturer, asus is responsible and must solve this issues!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] randalltroy:
Dont get me wrong , Asus has responsibility in this too, I think it's a.3 street, and there aren't answers coming from anywhere
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think people need a reminder this not a complaint thread. Maybe infractions need to be distributed to get the point across. Complain in another thread dedicated to complaints. Not in an update thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] LNJ:
More we complain hopefully it will get across!

Don't expect you to understand since you are one of the only ones who has a "perfect" Prime!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
in the appropriate thread yes. Moderator has already came in here a few times before to clean up complaints. He even said this is a dedicated update thread, not a complaint one.

you can complain all you want, just do it in the right thread. That's not difficult to understand.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
Thread Title is Unofficial by Official ASUS Thread - Product Updates

So complaining about lack of updates or quality of updates is a legitimate use of thread.

If you can't stand the heat, don't play in the kitchen
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Hmm, this thread is for Unofficial by Officials Asus Product Update thread. Which means, in theory & technicality... by GARY KEY only.

So, it means all the COMPLAINTS & DEFENSE for PRIME does not belong in this thread. If you aren't Gary Key, your opinion does not belong in this thread (at least, that's the rule the mods are going for)

However... you know.. it doesn't go that way.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] randalltroy:
I'm not complaining, the prime situation is what it is.I am just pointing out that Asus isn't the only player in the game

That being said

What's confusing me is why the prime is still on a older version of ICS, when there is and has been a newer version available
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nygmam:
Come on, there are several threads in the Eee Pad Transformer Prime General board for various areas of complaints, would not those be a better place to discuss issues, and gather all pertinent information?

We all know the TFP has some issues, but lets be honest, I have yet to use a mobile device that didn't have a glitch or two, or three, or four. Some never get fixed by the vendor, and others only get fixed by devs here on xda.

But come on, unless you are using your device to life and death issues, is it really the end of the world to endure a few browser crashes, app FC's or random reboots. Yes, it isn't ideal, but this is one of the first devices I have had with issues where a manufacture openly acknowledges the issues and is working here, with this community to address them.

So yes, a device this high end, and expensive should work out of the box, but do you really think ASUS can test every single software title for compatibility and ensure it works smoothly under every circumstance. How many of you have factory reset, and just used the stock apps, without installing anything from market? If you do, I bet there are no issues. Fact is ASUS is only a part of the problem, but to me it looks like they are doing all the can to address the issues some of us have.

So now feel free to flame me and tell me I am wrong, and that all high end devices are perfect... I have thick skin!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I agree

I agree. I don't know why Asus doesn't just get us on the more stable ICS 4.04. they must have their reasons. now we have Jellybean coming around summer/fall, the Android OS overall is improving. We will find out alot come Google I/O conference in June or so.

I'd say move us up to 4.04 and work on any other ICS issues from there. We are still on the older kernel also.

new firmware is alot more stable than . 21 or previous one. it seems promising, from testing stand point. They really trying to make this one right. Alot of thread priority changes, so its a major update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nossac:
And I have to say I feel exactly the same.

I have had 'smart' mobile devices since the first one came available and have NEVER had one that just worked, well they did as long as I was happy to only use the apps they came with.

The prime has it's issues as does everything else. The operating system needs modding to support any particular device over and above the vanilla that it was developed for and I reckon that it does a pretty good job.

The only OS I have every really played with that didn't crash once in a while was/is DOS

So if you want a perfect device go but a windows ultra book or something similiar and just remember those blue screens that pop up every now and then aren't a bug they are just an undocumented system feature.

If you want to spend you life complaining about a device go for it. But my advise to all the complainers is this.

Do NOT buy any device until it has been on the market for 6 months and you have researched all the opinions from the early adopters.

After that make an informed decision to purchase.

P.S. I to have a thick skin
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Good points. reminds me of that new Windows Mobile phone commercial. where its making fun of smart phone people being beta testers. Android as a whole is still a work in progress and growing. Android has its issues/limitations. IOS has its issues/limitations. They is no perfect bug free OS. I want a device I don't have to worry about workarounds or bugs also. But the positive experience with device far outweighs the negative ones.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bugblatter:
Guess that means the new firmware isn't 4.04.

Well as long as it's stable I'll be happy. Part of the fun of getting a cutting-edge device is showing it off. When it hangs, or the screen becomes unresponsive, or it reboots it's just plain embarassing! Makes me look like a mug for buying it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Well.. to start off... none of us are GARY KEY, so.. we're all off-topic. I want to get this out of the way.

1. All of our user experience with Prime is diverse & unique. We all have different standard & ideals. With that in mind, the negative far outweighs the positive experience to X% of users. I don't have a stat for who is happy & who isn't with their Prime experience. However, based on each individuals standard, user experience, & priority..... each individual is "RIGHT" in their own essence. Thus, let us not "FORCE" ones own experience to others.

2. This is strictly my opinion in terms for "early adopters". Now, as an early adopter of Prime (and few other device)... I do expect devices to be released with issues. Issues that will be resolved in certain amt of time period (typically incremental improvement). Also, those early batches or devices aren't released with "critical" H/W issues (those that are either re-called or are deemed for lawsuit).

However, based on my own experience with Transformer Prime..

a.) Prime is released with very critical H/W issue

b.) since launch, instead of seeing incremental improvement... the old issues exist (except GPS now with GPS dongle.. at least that's a solution) & new issues are piling up with the old....

Prime has been out for 5 to 6 month already... with issues continuing to pile up. It's understandable if one "issue" is solved & another random "issue" is pops up.. but so far, in Prime's history... that's not the case. Issues are just piling up....

So, even as an early adopter to Prime.. this is very negative experience over positive.

Anyways, this all doesn't matter. As for the next update, it can be on "beta" stage as long as it wants.... I want the next update to improve & resolve many of the issues instead of adding on to already a vast # of issues with Prime. So yes, I'm willing & perfectly happy to wait.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fonduekid:
Many opinions have voiced repeatedly above in many posts.. So I'm not going to go into them all over again.

But I can just comment on the people who say the SGS2 or other similar devices are faster and better than then prime - I would just like to add my 1 cent on that - yes, I think it's true. I have an SGS2 and many other friends with other devices.. we compared and we were quiet surprised (some of them shocked) that the prime was performing (for whatever reasons - we are not tech experts to figure out) way below expectations while basic activities or even multi-tasking were so much faster, snapier, better with the SGS2/similar devices..

Anyway.. I've had the prime for quiet some time now, and it's slowly becoming not an enjoyable experience using it!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
It's on 4.0.3, and I second it, the HOX is much smoother!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jeejee:
I have to say that I find it somewhat absurd that my over 2 years old HTC Desire has smoother scrolling in Opera Mobile and Adobe Reader than this so called quadcore graphical powerhouse.

The fact that it is this bad after multiple updates leads me to believe that the issue is in the hardware and can't be fixed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
Since you guys seem to not understand what this thread is for, I'll close it for now.

Gary Key: If you have any further updates, please contact me and I will re-open the thread. But for now it's closed. I really don't feel like deleting 80+ posts here...:rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
Yes, I am talking about On-screen by cornerstone. The names all look the same :p but now you know what I mean :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Kidd_Funkadelic:
Can someone enlighten me on what this means exactly? How would this be useful/different from tethering to my phone w/ a tethering/portable hotspot enabled (which I already do now)?

Sorry if this is obvious to everyone but me :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Infrastructure mode vs. ad hoc mode. I believe some phones only enable ad hoc tethering or some such...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I have to admit to being intrigued by this "major announcement" thing. I'll also admit that "the near future" ranks up there with "the coming weeks" as one of my least favorite phrases. I'm a very impatient person. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
same here..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalingrin:
Asus isn't in the business of making Android 5.0. We have ICS as it was intended and that's what I want. I don't want Asus to spend a bunch of time on changing Android. Keeping it stock allows them to spend their resources on fixing bugs and providing faster updates.

Onskreen is definitely not ready for prime time. I like idea and I certainly hope Google does something like it in Android 5.0.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
Major announcement? WTF now haha? Hopefully the announcement is "Peter, your tablet has moved on from being in (waiting) at the repair depot" :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
So, skipping .16 update.. and moving to .19 instead. Wonder what they changed or improvements they have made to make the jump (Android 4.04 possibly?)...

But major announcement on TF201?? A bit odd to say... TF201 will receive JELLYBEAN 5.0 considering that's not even out yet... so, scratch that. Can't be Windows 8 dual-boot option since MS ruled that out.

I still think it'll be Playstation Suite coming to TF201... & if so, good for Gamers.. except.. we have emulators that work well already (or good enough). Although, it changes if Playstation Suite has PS2 titles as well.. but I don't think they do...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
hmm.. they put ad-hoc back in, huh.. I wonder if I should replace my wpa_supplicant2 with the stock copy before the update.. probably a good idea.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gooser91:
A person in another forum I'm a member of is insisting that an Asus rep was at a local Best Buy and was adament that Asus would be releasing a new TF201 next month with a plastic strip on the back, similar he said to the one on the TF700.

He also stated that Best Buy has stopped taking any orders for the current TF201 in anticipation for the new TF201 with a plastic strip...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I've been wondering about this also. I was going to post this question in locknload thread to see what he thinks. I wonder if the update will just erase and overwrite the new file we put in there. so basically all we have to do is delete the new file, then edit the old file name taking off the .Baker we added to end of it. then everything should be back to normal. permissions should still be the same in the old file as it was never touched. permissions were only changed in the new file.

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you know you just made the @?!# hit the fan with that one...lmfao. thing is how would that be great news to us who already own original model prime? unless they let us switch it up at no charge. maybe even letting us switch at the store we purchased from. of course with receipts and proof of purchase.

either way that would be exciting. lets see what unfolds.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hceuterpe:
Relax man, I'm sure Asus is going to have an RMA program where they swap out the backs if you are having problems.

I wonder if that's Gary's big "announcement":D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
You sure this wasn't simply confusion with the new Infinity? With the exception of the plastic strip, they look very similar to the existing primes, and any rumor originating at a Best Buy is suspect, and at best, likely to be partially wrong.

I doubt the existence of a modified prime release alongside the upcoming releases, so probably no direct swapping like you've described, but I've been wondering if the big news might be some sort of voluntary trade up program for prime owners to the Infinity. Something like, for those who want the upgrade, send in your existing prime, plus the $100 for the price difference, and they send you the comparable model in the same color back. Thinking it's unlikely, but it would be a great way to reward the early adopters who might now be wishing they had waited.

Barring that, the thing I would most like to see, would be Ubuntu for Android coming to the Prime, and presumably included in the Infinity. It's such an obvious fit for the transformer line of tablets, that it's hard to imagine they aren't looking into it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
with the way things have been for Prime since launch, Anything is possible now..lol. we will see. I'd like the trade in option. but if there is a new backplate, that would be great also. who knows. Suspense is killing me though. I'm ready for the announcement now! lol it has to be something major.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] David522d:
I'm hoping for a new backing, sticker that fixes wifi, trade it option.

ASUS, don't let me down.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I've been going back and forth in my own mind on whether I'd take ASUS up on a trade-up offer to the TF700. Note that I, too, have no idea what's possible anymore--ASUS has responded in so many unusual ways (offering a direct refund, sending people to this forum in a semi-official capacity) that I think anything's definitely possible.

I'd probably end up going for the offer. I don't really game on my Prime as much as I thought I would, and I use it for more text-based stuff than I expected. So, I'm starting to think that maybe the TF700 would be more up my ally. But, I'm not 100% sure what I'd do...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Coderedpl:
I would be up for either a new backing or trade in offer but my question now is.

what about those that unlocked?

Its a hardware issue whether locked or unlocked. So it would only make sense to support both sides

Agreed but would it be something users can swap on their own?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] almightywhacko:
Why would an Asus rep actually be at a Bestbuy location telling them that a new hardware version of the tablet will be released soon? That doesn't make sense at all.

Asus reps don't spread information store to store on a personal basis.

If a new hardware revision is expected it would be sent my email or memo to Bestbuy HQ, and then it would be passed on to the Bestbuy employees that handle ordering/returning product.

Also Asus wouldn't tell Bestbuy anything unless Bestbuy had already stopped carrying the Prime, or they had the new product ready to ship. Anything else might keep BB from ordering, and it is in Asus's best interest to have locations keep ordering product, since that is how Asus makes money. They wouldn't go into a store and tell BB employees to stop ordering from them because they have something better coming out soon, that would be stupid.

I call Bravo Sierra on this story unless there is some official word that this is is happening.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kevinm2k:
I'd prefer a trade in option as well, I bought the prime thinking it was going to be the tab to beat, releasing another so soon with better specs is a bit of a smack in the face.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
I doubt it's an rma for a new backing. My understanding is that there are components attached directly to the backing, so it's not a simple case of removing the old backing and putting a new one on. And the antennas face forward, so a new backing, on existing devices, might not even do much good, while the newer devices are likely designed from the ground up to take advantage of the plastic strip. So, a trade in for a redesigned tf201 or the tf700t makes more sense.

As for unlocked devices, hopefully they would make an exception, but don't hold your breath (and if you haven't already unlocked, it may be smart to wait). If they're doing an rma for a new backing, then maybe, since you're still keeping the device in the end, but if it's some sort of trade in program, then I think they would be unlikely to accept unlocked devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Coderedpl:
In that case lets hope my screen cracks from using the dock or something else that's unfortunate so I can use the accidental damage warranty I have.

I still think they should cover both as it doesn't make a difference whether its locked or unlocked. Its still a hardware issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rajeshr:
I wouldn't put this past a sales rep. I'm not saying the information is true, but sometimes sales reps will say anything in front of a customer based on their limited understanding of the information.

Before all the sales guys in this forum get on my case, I'm not saying all of them do this!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scrufy:
My guess to this news is that they fixed the GPS with firmware / software and will be releasing it. I haven't been over to code.google to see what the ics update has in it for .19 so can't comment on that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gooser91:
Dont shoot the messenger boys
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
Prepare to be disappointed, this is Asus you know. I am sorry but to make an announcement to hint at an upcoming announcement is just setting us up for disappointment. Its probably going to be some firmware update with a few tweaks, nothing more. A firmware update to fix GPS would counter their announcement to remove it from the spec sheet. Would they now add it back to the spec sheet? No that would leave MORE egg on their face.

Lets just wait and see.. Guessing and speculating is setting us up to be let down.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scrufy:
You have to read a little laughter into my post...

Kind of hard to convey but I was just messin around.

Seriously though, I don't really think it's all that much of a stretch to say the GPS is fixed.

Hell, it's better than announcing Windows 8 dual boot! lol

Ubuntu is nice but hey, really if I want Ubuntu, I have a netbook for that and Unity can disappoint me just fine there. Give me something with Gnome classic or IFCE and Ill be happy.

I've been thinking about it and really have no idea what the news could be.

As far as "this is ASUS afterall", I'm seriously happy with ASUS.

Not too many forums have a factory rep in them. I know spreading propaganda from a paid shill can be taken any way you want but at least it is a representation. The only other forum I'm in that does anything similar is for my car and it's a tuner forum lol.

So... I say kudos Gary. Good or bad, it's better to have some info than nothing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Coderedpl:
For all we know it could be an announcement stating that the new infinity wont have these issues lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
Yes they do, all of them say they don't but they all do, I'm an engineer I always clean up their mess. However! these kinds of things move products and development forward and keep companies more honest because when a sales rep tells people about something a product is supposed to do then the company usually gets into a situation where they have no choice but to deliver on the promise. The approach most people take to say that sales reps are always full of **** and they'll say anything to anyone is an overly simplistic view and often doesn't do them justice. So whatever Gary has to say bring it on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I wouldn't worry. If it overwrites it & gives us ad hoc great and it not we can keep using the modded file. I plan to let the update run & see what it replaces. Either way we either get their fixed wpa or keep ours. I don't plan to put the stock file back prior to the update.

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Yeah this is kind of... meh

Ad hoc for everyone and battery stats in the settings as they should be are most valuable IMHO
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lizard:
Maybe they'll finally offer Face unlock :P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] benefit14snake:
I think it will be an update that makes the prime significantly more stable. Don't get your hopes up for a trade in program, this is still a company trying to make a profit. They will make us as happy as software allows and nothing else. It up to Asus to prove me wrong.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dime_veyron:
3G Dongles

will new update supports 3G usb dongle? it is important stuff in Russia
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deathbyfugu:
Pretty sure it's going to be a Linux 3.3 based kernel since it was just released in final form and includes Tegra 3 commits.