yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
any details on the tegra3 commits?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deathbyfugu:
Looking into it now - I'll post with the requisite information.

Edit - Looks like git.kernel.org is down (or simply isn't loading for me), but the information you are interested in can be found http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges and http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.3_DriverArch . I hope that can answer your questions. Based on the Tegra 3 commit info on the second link it appears they simply implemented support for it in 3.3, but something is better than nothing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think it might actually be this also. maybe that's why next update is jumping to .19. we on .15 now, so it'll be a major update. maybe this new kernel included in the update coming anyday now. or it may be included anyways and there's still another surprise surrounding the tf-201.

I'm sure people will like this aspect the new kernel would bring:

1.5. Bufferbloat fighting: Byte queue limits

Recommended LWN article: Network transmit queue limits

"Bufferbloat" is a term used to describe the latency and throughput problems caused by excessive buffering trough the several elements of a network connection. Some tools are being developed to help to alleviate these problems, and this feature is one of them.

Byte queue limits are a configurable limit of packet data that can be put in the transmission queue of a network device. As a result one can tune things such that high priority packets get serviced with a reasonable amount of latency whilst not subjecting the hardware queue to emptying when data is available to send. Configuration of the queue limits is in the tx-<n> sysfs directory for the queue under the byte_queue_limits directory
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deathbyfugu:
As far as the "surprise" for the TF201 I honestly believe that will redact the "warranty is now void" clause of the bootloader unlock and/or will allow for an official means to flash back to stock and relock the BL.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
lol random click on the thx button :D these things happen! Well i could have hit worse^^
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] faxmonkey:
My guess is a price drop.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ciriante:
this would be good news for prospective buyers tf201, not for those who already have it!! lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lorthirk:
I'm guessing something about kernel as well, maybe along with 3G USB dongle support.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalingrin:
I seriously doubt they will move to linux 3.3 which was only made stable a couple of days ago.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I don't think a "major announcement" will be anything to do with something so deeply technical as the Linux kernel nor something so marginal as the ability to run Ubuntu. I think it'll have to be something with wider appeal. The only purely "technical" thing I think it could be is redacting the warranty changes from unlocking the bootloader, and that could be considered "major" within Android circles, I suppose. The most major, of course, would be announcing a trade-in program to the TF700. Right in the middle would be some kind of retrofitting that would completely fix the GPS/wifi issues.

Isn't speculation fun? :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HOFFERN342:
Speculation is fun, but a trade in program for TF700 is probably out of the question.. I have no idea who even came up with the idea to begin with.. no company on this planet would trade in the hundred, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or more tablets that has been sold through the last months. It would be way too costly. My tablet is now working ALMOST perfectly, I have an occasional reboot every 3-4 days (5 since the .15 update, but I had reboots every 30 seconds on the .11 for example.

My biggest problem now is that the browser (all of them.. tried Firefox, Stock (ICS Browser), ICS Browser+.. they all hang at some point when loading or scrolling on a webpage, then it tells me that it is not responding and if I want to wait or close it.. I just hit wait and it works again perfectly fine. Not sure what kind of bug that is however, but I would think it will be fixed in a future update. I also have a bug now that happens when I put the tablet in, or take it out, of the dock.. it shuts down all my programs, so that I have to start them over again, loosing all progress in for example a game that does not autosave or all the fans in the browser gets lost.

Looking forward to seeing what .19 brings, and also what the major announcement is.. as I am speculating, maybe we will see an even bigger ICS update with more functions, stability and speed? It could of course also be something related to RMA and fixing the GPS/Wi-Fi problems that some people has. But I doubt it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ready2Mosh:
I think the lock up of the browser is memory related. It also sometimes happens in games, the game will stop for half a second or a second, then speed up to where it's supposed to be and runs normally. They either used crappy memory or it isn't optimized fully yet, which I hope it's the latter of the 2.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
It is definitely more of a hope than an expectation. If it did happen though, I'd think it would be fewer people than you're suggesting who would take advantage of it. Alot of Prime owners would probably never hear about the offer in the first place, and even among those who did, I think many would choose to stay with their existing Prime in lieu of shelling out another $100, sending in their tablet, and being without a tablet for a few weeks.

Just me, but if the major announcement is software related, it would have to be something pretty big indeed. Fixes for stability and speed I expect to be done as a matter of course in the regular run of updates, and wouldn't be particularly worthy of being labeled a major announcement. Now something like adding Ubuntu for Android for example, or an imminent upgrade to Jelly Bean, would merit that major annoucment.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
What isn't speculation is that Asus is due for an announcement on its new spring/summer line, viz the TP 300 & 700 series. Since I can't see the 700 selling for more than the iPad 3, and the 300 can't go much lower than $400 (may be $350), then my expectation is that 201 will be EOL'ed.

EOL notices normally don't qualify as "major product announcement," let alone "exciting news," but Asus has been on a customer engagement binge lately, so it's a possibility.

A reasonable guess is that the "exciting news" will be, say, $100 credit for existing Prime owners toward purchase price of a 700. You keep your Prime and send in proof-of-purchase for the credit. Everybody is happy, and cost for Asus would be nominal.

A price drop would only be done to increase sales, and Prime availability is limited as it is. Asus has been forthright in its press releases, 201 is for early adopters.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Electronics_eng:
I see the problem also. I feel that the browser "Pause" is related to WIFI; Hi ping times, dropped packets and data recovery errors. I think ASUS needs to work on the WIFI radio settings (Firmware tweeks) to minimize these issues. If you run a speedtest.net test, note the ping time is 3 times higher on the TF201 than a laptop connected on the same wireless network, in the same location, also note the speedtest plot of the data for the TF201 (in the tiny window) has dropouts from the peak data points. This tells me that their wireless data packets are not consistent. The laptop data plot is flat with no drops. Pulling data from a web site needs to be smooth or pauses will occur.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalingrin:
While I agree there are problems with wifi(my tf201 has terrible bandwidth compared to every other device I own), it is not the cause for the browser hanging. If an undependable connection caused Android to lock momentarily it would be catastrophic on 3G/2G connections which is obviously not the case.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lorthirk:
My 2 cents: any trade-in for another model would be equal to "Ok, you know what, Transformer Prime kinda sucks indeed".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mgmCube:
Will the TF700 also come with Tegra 3 or only with S4 cpu?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ready2Mosh:
Wifi model Teg3 LTE model S4
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I doubt it. Asus already had stated the Prime model will continue. if it were to be discontinued, we would've caught hint of it at MWC when they showed their future product map. they wouldn't of even bothered to have the prime in there also.

plus announcing the discontinuation of Prime and allowing us to keep prime and get free $100 voucher is far from exciting news. plus tf-700 already set to start off at $599. that's the same price as new Ipad 32gb model. infinity pad offers more out the box and also has 1080P screen also.

more exciting news would be allowing us to send in the prime with $100 and upgrading. cost wouldn't be as high as people think to Asus because they will easily recycle and reuse the prime parts in new infinity pad. they are basically the same except backplate. they could easily reuse the tegra3 chips and reprogram them. it would be included in production of new units so it'll still count as a new device. as long as prime parts pass their inspection. electronics companies do this all the time and still counts as a new device.

we will have to wait to see what the announcement is.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mgmCube:
Great, then I'll be willing to trade up if Asus would offer it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
No, it'll be very costly... simply because...

1. labor fee to extract recycle parts in good condition

2. DISPLAY... Can't use Prime's display for Infinity Pad 700.. and DISPLAY cost the most. And if you factor in the limited quantity Asus will have (due to new iPad, and Samsung).... Why would Asus as a company would do something that'll cost them millions?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jwe222:
If most people have machines that are working fine and they are happy with them, i'm not sure it makes sense for Asus to offer an upgrade path to everyone. In my case, this would mean paying $950 for a working tablet - not great news for me. Fixing hokey-pokey GPS (you put the GPS in, you take the GPS out) would be big and good news for Asus too.

Bring on the announcement :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Unless its a trade in program...I'm already disappointed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I'm not really holding out hope that there will be an upgrade offered. But, keep in mind that ASUS could recoup some of the cost by selling any returned units as refurbs. Plenty of places (like Tigerdirect, etc.) would be happy to take the off their hands.

And as far as doing something that would cost them money--this has been something of a challenge for them. They could build up some significant goodwill through such an offer (and, really, it's not unprecedented).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
easy. that cost is minor compared to the image that will be portrayed of them to the masses. all the tech sites would cover it and Asus will look like the hero doing something as drastic, far fetched, and surprising as that. this wouldn't of been first time a company allowed you to upgrade at little or no cost.

examples, after my second HTC Kaiser/Tilt, it broke again. since they stopped making it they sent me a free upgrade to the far more expensive HTC Rhodium/Tilt2/Touch Pro2. I was stoked about that. that phone was not cheap during its time. was one of the top win mo phones out there then. another example from my brother n law. a few months back his HTC evolution had broke. this was like the second time he sent it in. they replaced his evolution with another evo. then this new one breaks after a while. he sent it in and HTC sent him back the new HTC Evo 3D at no cost at all. it had a newer/more powerful processor and the new 3D display and cam. those devices aren't cheap also. I can see why HTC just recently won the highest customer Satisfaction award, if you haven't read about it already. Asus could do the same. They could easily get back their great reputation with this.

A famous quote which I forgot who it came from.

"It can take years to build up a great relationship/reputation. Only takes a second to ruin it"

regardless the ball is in Asus court. if they announce it being discontinued, it would cause far more outrage than they could even imagine compared tl GPS issue. it would be all over the tech sites headlines. then it would their new devices to look frowned upon. who would trust a new device from them if they so quick to discontinue prime. what if new devices has issues, would they discontinue it just as fast? how they handle this Prime situation will determine how well their new tablets do. handle it well and expect new devices to do well. handle it poorly, will generate even more bad press and hurt sales of their new devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Coderedpl:
They are probably looking at this thread and the forum to get ideas on what to offer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
exactly, I described examples of HTC doing this in my post. The view in the public eye is worth more than a short term possible loss. looking good in the public eye will go a long way. I'm sure most would agree with that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Electronics_eng:
I am not talking about the android operating system (it's fine), I am pointing out that the WIFI chipset used in the Prime has not been optimized per ASUS firmware.

Depending on the manufacturer of the WIFI chips ASUS used, the firmware must control all of the settings of the chip to handle the data flow, that is not controlled by Google (Android operating system), it is custom for the hardware used. This is why ASUS sends us the firmware and not Google. Google just "OK's" their firmware.

There is no way to compare 3G/2G performance to WIFI, because the only thing the Prime offers is WIFI. The 2G/3G/4G issue would be another set of chips and more firmware to control them anyway. I am speculating that if you could connect the Prime to a network with an Ethernet connection (dongle), you would not see "Pauses" while using the browser.

My personal opinion about the WIFI / Bluetooth fallout issue is that ASUS used a single chipset (to save room) that handles WIFI and Bluetooth all in one, that's why we see bandwidth problems when both WIFI and Bluetooth are turned on, all the data for both has to pass thru one un-optimized chip.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
They can.. & it is the most likely scenario (contrary to what Demandrin said.. using old parts of Prime to make "new" Infinity Pad 700.. but my gosh, think of all the labor fee & lawsuit scrutiny they might be under if they did that).

However, even if you sell the returned units as refurbs.. you're taking at least 50 to 100 dollar hit (i think most seem to sell 100 dollar cheaper on refurbs). And if they were to offer the upgrade with only "$100" more.. think of the heavy loss in Finance. I'm sorry but I have yet to see a single company do a massive "upgrade" such as that out of good will. It just cost too much money....

But that also opens up to:

1. admitting that Prime is a failure

2. to keep Prime & continue to manufacture Prime after admitting the failure of such device.. (who would buy a device after the manufacture admits the failure??)

That's extra burden & finance to consider....

I honestly don't think Asus is big enough of a company to take such a hit for "image".

Edit: Plus, it'll also make Gary Key look like a fool after all the public interviews he has done to the media (& his statistics on return rates and etc...)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clenz:
I have narrowed the browser hang issue on my prime to JavaScript. If I turn it off it runs very smooth with no hangs. Of course, a lot of things don't work well without java (links, forms) so it's a bit of a pain.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jwe222:
yawn.... can someone please wake me up when we get there?;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TrekMD:
I have to admit that I am quite curious about this major announcement. Tons of speculation here for many plausible scenarios. I do have to say that I'm impressed by their being here posting and listening to users. Maybe we'll all be pleasantly surprised whenever the major announcement is actually made! It'll be interesting to see if anyone managed to "guess" correctly! :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I still think it'll be Playstation Certification for major announcement.

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-god-of-war-ios-game-teased-in-interview-20219318/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TrekMD:
That would be nice! It should bring a lot of quality games to the Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Keion:
That's they way to do it Gary! Smack dem *****es.

Sent from my tablet thing with XDA Premium.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MiscBec:
I had new problems with my prime pop up after the last update and installing Chrome (unrelated to already existing issues with wifi, bleed, bt, gps, screen banding, etc. :-\) . My screen became very unresponsive and sluggish, and I had more fcs than before. However, I followed Gary's suggestions to uninstall chrome, followed by reinstalling Flash. That seemed to help a fair bit. I tried overskreen out afterwards, but that caused my tablet to freak out (I've had the flashing issues forever, but this made it go nuts :-P). So I'm sticking with a cludgy stock browser for the moment, and hoping things improve with the next update! (btw, Gary mentioned he was going to open a thread to deal with browser stuff, but I couldn't find one- did I just miss it??)

As for the big surprise, I just hope it's something that everyone who has spent time fighting with problems on this device can benefit from, as opposed to something that's just applicable for a small group with specialized interests... And really, I'd just like things closer to what I thought I was buying in the first place. I really do want them to give me a reason to just COMPLETELY love this thing (and it's got so much promise (read: I'm not a hater :-))
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Kasper31:
I have done that on mine and am still having the wait/close message pop up. All I know is it started with the .15 upgrade for my ATP. I know for my ATP the .11 was the most stable. I just wish I could go back to hc from ics so my gps would work again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MiscBec:
I'd also be curious to know whether the time frames Gary is giving apply worldwide, or will the updates roll out early to the US like they've done before? And will the "big news" apply to all of us too?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] r0ck0:
I just got my prime and there is no GPS. I mean its on and says its working but when I use the app GPS test it shows 0 in view, 0 in use. This was outside with clean line of sight to outerspace. My HTC evo gets 10 sats in use, inside my house. The weather widget that comes with prime can't find my location using GPS, only if I manually enter my info.

Is there going to be a firmware fix for this? Is it even worth RMA'ing, are they able to fix the hardware?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
And on the 22nd it'll be the 25th... etc. Delay delay delay.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dime_veyron:
21.03.2012 Asus posts .17 for JP SKU

Waiting for .19 (.20) WW :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalingrin:
You missed my point. The problem is the application freezes momentarily. If the wifi, firmware or otherwise, can cause the UI thread to freeze then it would be a huge problem with Google's OS. There is no way the UI thread is going to halt while it waits for a packet. Like I said before, if what you are saying is correct then the browser would be unusable with a 2G/3G connection as the connection would be even less dependable.

My guess is that its memory related but I haven't checked logs or DDMS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
3/20/21012 Update -

1. I will be back to the forums on 3/22/2012.

2. We will have a major ICS update (.19) arriving shortly (might be .20 now).

3. We will have a major announcement on the TF201 in the near future.

4. We will have dedicated forum assistance starting in the near future

Gary, this forum based assistance, will it be only for ASUS "valued" customer in North America, or also for the "alike valued" customers in the rest of the world, like Europe and so on?

The lack of quality and help/info about the Prime I experienced in "Europe" would make this as a must, if this forum assistance should have any effect.

Our Euros, or other money is as good or "better" than the valued USD :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lorthirk:
Given the actual € - $ exchange rate, I'd say that our money are definitely better :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phat_11:
I second that... I've tried to pm Gary a few weeks back about the inability to have a proper contact from Asus Belgium. Around here the general belief is that the Prime have no issues at all and nothing is in the works to improve anything. I don't expect a reply soon from Gary since he is busy but in the meantime some other people to provide assistance to European customers seems like a nice idea.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] d.bobo:
Couldn't agree more on that one! Here in The Netherlands, asus denies everything! I got my unit back from the RMA department with no result at all, here a quote from the RMA saying: "There is nothing wrong with this Prime". After that I did myself the update to .15, and from there everything went better.

I can't believe how "underground" these problems are, if I didn't know about Xdadevelopers, then I still had no clue what's happening!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Hawke84:
+1 i dont feel like over this side of the pond we are getting great support
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
I am still fighting to get my Prima back.. (see the thread I opened) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1525229

Now I got the "word" from a manager in Sweden, that I will not be charged for "the damaged they mean I caused", which is wrong. They are lying!

Anyway he mentioned that they probably have changed something but it is not sure it will help for WiFi/BT issue. So he will double check.

I am afraid that ASUS should revide all thei support policy.

I am ITIL and Prince2 certified, if we used ASUS methods to manage customer issues and contact options they offer us, in out IT dept. we will be kicked out.

ASUS hotline is nothing more than an "help desk", which cannot do anything else than saying "did you reboot? ok then you need to make an RMA!"

ASUS 2nd level is unreachable, I managed to "get them", because Google is my bible and I got the phone numbers I needed.

They are so poor in info and you have to push and push to get something out of them.

The repair centre, in my case "Wistron InfoComm (Czech), s.r.o" is slow and they can damage your unit, as I read several places in forums. People get it back with scratches and so on.

All in all yes, the forum support is great, as long as the "background is solid".

Many of you are not "working" in IT dept., but a "solid, informed and competent" staff is the "core" of a good "user support".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dime_veyron:
long post, many words, sorry :)

I think the greates update is

fully unlocked device

(decrypted bootloader), and working NVFlash

If they (Asus) will

fully

unlock device, i don't need any support from they. I can do with my device anything i want (Resore from any kind of brick).

As for now, they earn money. You unlock your device, (loose waranty) and make upload a custom rom. if somthing wrong with rom file (bad downloading), or rom is betas how ever, prime will break.

And without crypt key of bootloader you can't restore prime.

Then you go to Asus Support, and there you pay $. I think that is the main reason, why then don't fully unlock it