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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] zx7rou812:
Smaller screen.

Smaller battery.

NO removable battery.

NO micro SD compatibility.

Marginally better processor speed and camera.

Why would you want the HTC?

My contract is up with Sprint in 6 months. AT&T said they'd "rebate" me $75 to switch back to them.

As soon as the early termination fee from Sprint matches that, I'll be tossing my Evo into the junk drawer that afternoon and getting a Note.

My wife has the Note and I am shellshocked at just how good a phone it is...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Coffinfeeder:
The One X looks like a really nice phone but how can you ever go back from a 5.3in screen?

If I would ever abandon my note (not very likely), it would be for the Asus padfone. I owned a transformer and that thing was awesome. The padfone looks to be much better than the One X design-wise, with roughly the same specs. Also, Asus rocks at updating their Android devices.. only ones who get updates faster are nexus owners.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kimtyson:
Can't replace battery and no memory card option. Yuck! And I like HTC.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
People seem to forget the fact that other phones have smaller batteries because they have smaller screens. You don't need a 2600 mah battery to get the same results as the Note with a smaller screen. Also, I would say the processor and camera are far from "marginally" better considering the processor outperforms the tegra 3.

Also, it will ship with ICS instead if having to wait for this carrier bull****
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Vcolassi:
I thought about the HTC one X. But honestly i am not a huge fan of their design but this one looks cool. But going down to a 4.6 display would prob suck. I dont use my camera that much really. ICS is what intrigues me. Not really worth it IMO.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] envision:
The display in that phone is not SuperAMOLED that = FAIL and its smaller

Wait for the Galaxy S III
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SayWhat10:
plus no AMOLED screen

i cant see why one would want this either (coming from the note that is)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] zx7rou812:
The keypoints are not just the battery's size, but the fact it's not removable. Ask an iPhone user how their battery treats them after a year of owning the phone.

And yes, I said "marginally".

This is a phone not a PC, where speeds stand out.

How much more noticeable, apart from test scores, do you think you'll really see?

Kia vs Ferrari?

How much better do you think the camera will be?

Polaroid vs Nikon D-SLR?

Doubt it.

Bottom line, the Note will be a better phone based on screen size and resolution. Let alone the previously listed cons the X comes with.

And I'll ignore the ICS reference, because basing your decision on a preloaded OS is silly enough on its own...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
Screen size as a pro is subjective. Bigger screens aren't always better and it really is amazing how everyone in the Note forums is like "ZOMG MAI SCREEN IZ BIGGUR SO MAI FONE IZ BETTUR". It might be better for you, because the screen is awesome but that doesn't make your phone better. Resolution, sure.

Are you serious? Would you want another GB phone when ICS is out? I had a Galaxy Nexus and I have AOSP ICS on my Note, and it blows GB out of the water, even if it doesn't work fully.

And I love how people here assume the Note has no cons at all. I am in the Note forums, but it's not even the Note forums only. Everyone seems oblivious to the cons of a phone once they buy it and someone comes in saying another phone is better.

And yes, I have a Note as stated above.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erad1:
Shouldn't you have posted this question in an HTC forum or maybe the AT&T forums....I mean really?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Uncle Irish:
Where did you get it from? Link?

I can handle losing some features to check out the benefits
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tjw345:
He's on the International Note N7000. Our AT&T I717's don't have any ICS ROMs yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Uncle Irish:
That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.

I'm a patient man, but if they (Samsung/AT&T) pull a Captivate with our Note, I'm pretty certain I'll flip out and kick a puppy (a poodle, not a real puppy)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] zx7rou812:
Whoa, ratchet it back a bit there hero.

ICS definitely beats GB, but ICS will be going to the Note, so that's a moot point.

Whining that a phone doesn't "currently" have it is ridiculous.

And yes, to most, a larger screen with higher resolution WILL be better. Imagine that.

Nobody was saying the Note had no cons, I merely listed the cons of the X compared to it.

I'm no fan boi. In case you missed it further up, I don't even HAVE a Note (yet). I'm still running my OG Evo 4G. But I can say after playing with my wife's phone, it will (in my opinion) take one hell of drastic step from other manufactures to trump it.

Want a con?

The phone is friggen HUGE. There's the, pardon the pun, biggest con there is. Will people look at it like it's retard? Absolutely. My wife told me that it's a 50/50 split between people liking it and people thinking it's just a foolish gimmick.

Want another?

You're stuck, for now anyway, with Another Tax & Tariff as your carrier. Depends on locale. I have Sprint, which sucks for service around me. AT&T works fantastic. May be the polar opposite for others.

Another?

Samsung may look at it in 6 months and discontinue support of it. They certainly seem to be a company that likes rapid changes and leaving their previous models in the dust. As fast as the GS2 was released, it was replaced with the GS2 Skyrocket. Now the GS2 HD is coming out. Soon to be replaced by the GS3...

It ALL boils down to personal preference. Any phone is just that. Hell, my first cell phone came in a bag, weighed 20 pounds, plugged into my car's cigarette lighter, and cost me .99/minute.

Otherwise we'd all be rocking and loving Steve Job's piece of crapola, right?

It's all good, baby.

;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] canecbr600:
Everyone is entitled to there opinion on there phone. Ur going to try n knock people cause they like there phone? I love my note, there are no cons for me! I have tried HTC in the past, and will not own one for a single reason. I hate the cheap plasticy feel! They feel cheap to me! That's how I feel, the next person may feel different, and that's OK! :-)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
Dude.. none of that was meant in an aggressive tone or anything I was just stating facts. I am sorry if you took it as if i was attacking you, i didnt mean to come off like that. The Nexus has a smaller screen than the Note but a similar resolution so it's not like all large screens will have higher resolutions.. and in terms of ICS, I'm just talking about official support as we have seen with the OG Galaxy S line that had half with upgrades and half on 2.2 ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SMARTPHONEPC:
If your contract is up in 6 months you should be at a $60 ETF:

http://support.sprint.com/support/a...termination_fee/case-sp061027-20110823-171256

I'm in the same boat as you but I have about 8 months left, didn't know AT&T would rebate me $75 though, do I just ask for that or what is the best approach?

I still would like to wait to hear official news about the SGS3 before deciding..May?:cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] aznpr1de808:
I say wait for the SGS3 IMO :D far better specs wise than the X.

One X------------------------------------SGS3

4G LTE-----------------------------------4G LTE

4.6" Super IPS LCD2---------------4.8" Full HD 1080p resolution 16:9 aspect ratio

1.5Ghz Tegra 3 Quad-core------1.5Ghz Quad-core Exynos processor

1 GB Ram------------------------------1.5 GB Ram

Android 4.0-----------------------------Android 4.0

8MP Rear, 1.3 MP front----------8MP Rear, 2 MP Front (Rumored) 12MP Rear Camera

32GB Internal------------------------16GB internal/ 64GB external SDXC compatible

Li-Po 1800 mAh battery----------(Rumored) 3000 mAh ultra slim battery

8.9 mm Thick--------------------------7 mm Thick

HTC Uni-body Design----------------New Bezel-less design
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
All of the SGSIII specs so far are rumors.. I'm not sure why you're assuming they're all legit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] aznpr1de808:
I'm not, just putting it out there for those who wanted to know. I honestly like my Note so until the SGS3 actually is released on AT&T and poeple can get actual hands on reviews and solid specs, I'm sticking with my Note until then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SayWhat10:
but you have to know the main reason people bought the note is not because of processor power but because of the largest "phone" screen size avail on the market right now though, right? So seems to defeat the purpose by going down in size.

Im sure that most people, when looking for a replacement phone, include screen size as the most important feature when looking for a new phone. (otherwise they would have stuck with the previous smaller screen phone they already had,because you can surely get the same "power" in smaller screen phones already)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] :
I was very hesitant to make the jump to the ATT GNote.

I've gone with strictly HTC phones for the past how ever many years (since WinMo). I really like their build quality and form factor, but they seemed to stop getting better. The specs were going up a bit, but they sorta stopped at 4-4.5" screens and qHD and seemed to be just repackaging the same **** over and over.

My Inspire4g finally took a dump on me, so I went into the ATT store to get a new phone.

I was trying to hold out for the One X, but the ATT guy said they usually hear about them a month before they're out, and he hadn't heard anything yet.

I checked out the...HTC Vivid? and was just so underwhelmed. (Random nitpicky things like it looked plain, boring, volume buttons on the wrong side compared to my Inspire, and it wasn't much bigger than my Inspire at 4.5" qhd screen.)

I also knew they had somewhat neutered the ATT GNote compared to the International one. The GNote is also running GB which sucks, as my Inspire had been running ICS for quite some time and ICS is definitely leaps and bounds ahead of GB.

I figured I'd get the Note just because, and if I hated it, I'd return it. Have to say, I don't think I could ever use a smaller/lower resolution screen now.

I love the amount of stuff I can fit on the screen, and the physical size is perfect for one handed and two handed usage if need be. Fits in my front pocket just fine. I also like that I can show people things on my phone at work, and they can actually see them without me handing them the phone and them leaning in to squint at the screen.

I know the PPI isn't the highest, and the processor isn't the best (wished it had quadcore or even exynos!) but so far it's actually been much better than I anticipated. It's smooth, feels solid, works great, looks good.

If HTC comes out with something in this screen res/size range, I'd probably buy that too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] viny2cool:
interesting convo going on here...I just ordered my GNote on ATT. I wanted to wait for SG3, but i couldnt wait for an phone which is not even announced...

HTC one X sounds nice but from last few months, all new HTC phones are ****ty in comparison to Samsung...

Even ATT HTC one X will be dual core not Quad Core...so after some thinking, I ordered my GNote today. I am just hoping I dont have to use GB on Note for long...:mad:

Got used to ICS of my Captivate and Touchpad now....:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
The dual core version outperforms the quadcore version..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Kromatrix:
I'm used to using the Nexus phones, but had to forego the Nexus Prime due to not wanting to import it. I love my Note, but the Nexus S and N1 both have ICS, and it's tough going back to Gingerbread.

I was an early adopter for the Atrix though, but that went right back to the AT&T store once I realized the bootloader wasn't going to be unlocked for awhile. Went right back to nice and beautiful NS.

My roommate had a Dell Streak, and I loved the size of it. So once I heard about the GNote, and the unavailability of the NPrime, I had to have it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
this thread should be moved to htc one x page. is non sense creating such threads in this forum!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Aerials:
Only real thing (based on rumors) that HTC has improved on with the One series is improved camera lens. But the rest....such as still coming with a small stock battery...they still haven't learned.

Like sure...the One series can be considered something "new" for them....since considering they've been releasing rehashes of the EVO (which was released in June 2010).

On top of all that, the deal-breaker is that the screen size can be considered 'too small'...Makes me wonder if they're even gonna jump to the 5 inch+ territory anytime soon. With qHD screen + lower resolution than Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ccayetano:
As everyone always says, there's always something better right around the corner. I chose the Note, ultimately, for the 5.3" screen, but it happened to work out because my upgrade date was about a week after the Note was released so I could experience the bleeding edge of technology for the longest amount of time possible before something better comes out.

Now having said all that and after using the Note for a few weeks, I just don't see how I can go back to a sub 5" screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wish777:
first I had Verizon had the galaxy nexus......ICS......and switched carriers to get the note......ics is nothing to brag about....wow. blue theme and some custom animations...?...really?......I had the galaxy nexus ics is nothing special....had it rooted and all..had the t-mobile galaxy s2......now this....I will admit the tmobile s2 was indeed faster to me....but u have to loose something to gain another if you know what I mean.....this note is by far the best phone I've owned,its screaming fast and how fast do u need it?...by benchmarks are in 4000 ..which I know dosent mean much...but the resolution and speed and size blows everything I've seen so far away...believe me ics is nothing to loose sleep over....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Maroon Mushroom:
The One X could easily be my next phone.

-Better CPU than the Note

-Better camera than the Note

-Better battery life than the Note

-Better aspect ratio

-ICS with an incredible new version of Sense

-Better screen quality

-More manageable screen size. (but still big!)

-pogo pin

It beats the AT&T Note in every single way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deeken:
They are both nice phones and I'm sure anyone would be happy with either. I prefer the nice lovely screen of the note. I don't think I will be able to go to a smaller screen now. I'm sure spec wise the phones will perform just about the same.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Maroon Mushroom:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3

The One X with Krait should be able to put the Note to shame in terms of performance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
good luck. htc has become the new apple, read htc amaze forum and you will see what is going on with their devices
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] stulzerl:
Phones, phones, phones!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Aerials:
Based solely on the rumors so far, the points I can agree on are better CPU, and new Sense version.

The 'better camera' is quite possible...if its new lens is indeed that amazing.

I'm not quite sure yet on the 'better screen'....unless it comes with full 1080p or bust.

Screen size is still a preference thing. If I'm gonna use something smaller than a phablet, the only acceptable alternative for the time being is the Pre 3. It's the webOS on it that's the huge deal-breaker for me.

I think bottom line, for the time being, an ICS Note is as 'future-proof' as you can get for at least the next year span.

Though...I wouldn't be surprised to see more random phone vendors like Pantech, ZTE, and the like to step up their game.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jimmer411:
Its made by HTC, enough reason for me not to buy one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Maroon Mushroom:
By better camera - I meant one with a better lens and dedicated photo processing.

For the screen, it has a higher pixel density, a normal aspect ratio, and doesn't suffer from our choppy black levels
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 00mred00:
granted there isn't much for real world use reviews...the official specs have been up for a couple of weeks.

http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] n19htmare:
You speak of it as if you have used one for a while.

Previous post you stated better battery life. How could you have come to this conclusion if you have not used any variant of the one X?

Same with your other claims like Screen, Camera?

It's all speculation and expectation from your end at this point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cutthroat31:
It looks to be promising but I'll stick with my note..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SayWhat10:
exactly how is the screen better?

and some of the other stuff not sure how you could know without even obtaining the phone yet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] MrDSL:
Can anyone name a high end HTC phone in the last year with good battery life?

Yeah me either and I've owned HTC until I bought this phone..Smaller screen or not have fun being tethered to some kind of charger with a little 1800 battery..

Its not like theres been some game breaking tech discovery in battery life or anything.

Need to leave in a hurry and phone not charged..Grab that extra battery..Oh wait you have a One X...Go ahead and bring your charging equipment!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kiltedthrower:
I'm curious. If I were to return my Note and get a One X, what could I do with that phone that I can't do wtih the Note?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] fox689:
I'm going to stick with the note. If the AT&T One X was going to have the Tegra 3, I'd consider switching, but quad core isn't going to make up for losing screen size, IMO. And we will have ICS sooner than later even if AT&T drags it's feet. The Canadian phones will get it either way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] zx7rou812:
Aw hell no, Josh. I didn't take it that way at all. Hence my "It's all good, baby. ;) " at the end.

I, likewise, apologize if you took my post as an insult to YOU. I tend to get a bit long winded at times, and my Boston "tude" sometimes surfaces in long posts/replies. I'm not a fan of "Me iz teh roxxorz, you iz teh suxxorz" forum wars, and luckily everyone I have run across on XDA tends not to run that gamut that either.

So in the eternal words of teh intrewebz, "We iz gud, homie"

Jack

---------- Post added at 12:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:26 AM ----------

Look at a REALLY big screen and use a built in stylus.

:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] zer0nine:
I am actually loving the new look of Sense in ICS. The animations are really nice, especially scrolling in the settings menu.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Truaim:
Obviously an idiot. ICS is coming, you don't even have an AMOLED screen (more manageable?? LOL? Like that was a con of buying the note?) Sense is GARBAGE, and your battery life is equal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jimmer411:
What matters to me most is battery life and then screen size.

Ill care what kind of camera my phone has when they have larger sensors and support 14bit RAW files. Until then I'm content with my Canon 50D.

When it comes to mobile gaming I have my ipad2 (soon to be ipad3) for that and my pc is far superior at performing intensive tasks. When I can process 15mp raw files on my phone and tether to a Wacom tablet and rune photoshop or even Lightroom then specs will win me over.

So all in all there isn't enough for me to dump my note for the one x. Besides, when was the last time HTC put a battery larger than 1400mah in one of their phones? Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Vcolassi:
I have to 100% agree with you on the screen size and battery life. I do not game much at all on my Note. I have a Xbox & a PS Vita, touch controls just don't do it for someone who grew up in the 80s with Nintendo & a physical controller. I mean ill try some new games on my Note time to time to check em out. But for the most part meh. No angry birds on this Note :cool: When i even hear the Angry Birds theme song it drives me insane! Sounds like a Willy Wonka theme song rip off. But thats another story.

But yea the screen size is a huge reason i got the Note. While the HTC looks nice, honestly at 4.6" or 4.7" i think its gonna feel super small to me. I held the Galaxy Nexus in my hand last night. And at 4.6"s i did not like it :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] CreekDirt:
No removable battery, no micro sdcard, flimsy housing are a few factors that make the One X a no go for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Vcolassi:
Like i said the HTC one X looks like a good phone. I thought about it, but the screen size just isn't there for me. Everyone has different preferences when it comes to your mobile device. For me the Note is King because of the screen size and real estate, Super AMOLED HD screen. That 4.6 to 5.3" screen is a bigger gap then it seems.

What i don't understand is this. And by no means is this a Rip on anyone. This goes for phone & tablets. Comparing graphics chips in mobile devices to me makes no sense. Especially in your decision making on a phone if another has a little bit better of a GPU. If you want a device for gaming, especially mobile gaming. Get a 3DS or a PS vita. I have a Transformer Prime which uses Tegra 3 and while the games looks great its still mobile touch screen gaming. I tired Shadow Gun and a few others for a few mins but i dunno i just didn't like it like some others go crazy for. But i grew up in the 80s as a kid with Nintendo with a physical controller etc. So i'm what you call a hardcore gamer i guess. I'll play a few games on my phone on the go but that's about it. I bought a PS Vita for mobile gaming and its not even close even with my Transformer Prime and i don't care what the specs say, they aren't everything. The only gaming that usually gets done on my Note & Prime is old school NES, SNES time to time. But i also use a bluetooth controller if i am home.

Again im sure its preference. But i haven't laughed so hard when i watched Apples Keynote & they said their Quad Core GPU is 4x's as fast as tegra 3 and can possibly replace your home PS3 & Xbox for gaming Bwahahahah! Infinity Blade can suck on deeeeeez! :D

But on a serious "Note" the HTC looks like a great device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
Why get so defensive? Seriously he made good points. The pixel density is higher so theoretically in that sense the screen is better. You will have ICS on your AT&T Note long after everyone else has ICS. Touchwiz is just as bad and a whole lot uglier than sense.

Stop trying to act tough and insult someone because he said a phone coming out might be better than yours. Grow up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] aznpr1de808:
Here a link if you want to fork up $699 ;)

but mind you its the international verion so it will only get 3G here and so far the rumors say the AT&T version will NOT be a quad core because of LTE compatibility issues.

http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wir...nic&utm_term=HTCONEXBKEU&utm_campaign=froogle