yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
so we must wait until the official exit, and also we cannot know the exact date of release :mad::mad:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wing_zero8556:
Really soon is not soon enough :P haha

lol at the guy that got .73 update and said it was ICS..

I really hope we got more custom roms once ICS comes out and CM9 progress is sped up too
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
I'd prepare for june..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
I will make a custom rom :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
He never said it was ICS. He only said his build number changed and asked if it could be "IT". :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arc_u:
But he said "the update" and we are on ICS (update) thread, that because a lot here think he talk about ICS.

Sent from my LT26i using telepathy
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vrnsharma:
i just checked sony site they have changed a lot of things

1.)sony update service has got new update 2.12.6.47

2.) when u check site for update now they perform online update check with java platform

so may be its a new transformation or they have changed it for big ICS update for Sony xperia S
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] spice boy:
My PC Companion can't connect to the update server to check for updates for my phone... Only been happening since today... Very interesting? Maybe...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
Back working now and saying once again that there are no updates (Mac user, UK, SIM free model).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Yes, same here, the update server isn't accessible :p

Let's hope this means something good ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
While we don't get ICS from Sony, what you think will be tweaks and customizations from Sony? Based on your guess and ICS for 2011 line ( of course we will have something more than them)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Mostly same as ICS for 2011 devices. A few NFC extras and maybe updated media apps. Shouldn't be much more.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
So it will be like Samsung did ics below the same touchwizz? I mean all the cells be it 2011 or 2012 will look the same? But wasn't there a leaked video showing a new ui kind of same to ours but in many ways different such as new contact apps (it had huge contact pics while dialing n alI :D ) thought that might be ics and we'll get that ui cause we have more system resources than the 2011 line. Dammit
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
What you're talking about is probably stock ICS. We're getting a Sony customized experience.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Well if they hide the new apps and dont update the UI its not really worth the wait... I hope they include the new adreno drivers and implement FULL GPU rendering which would make everything damn smooth as the xperia s still lags alot and doesnt even reach 60 fps in fps2d. ..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Full GPU rendering doesn't give a major speedup and is a massive battery hog. Also, <obligatory ALOT pic>
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Lol I know the difference between stock and the Sony ui. Umm it was heavily skinned like our ui same launcher calendar app just the contacts was a bit different with bigger pictures while dialing (cause of ics I think takes larger pics than 96*96) and I think the gallery was a bit different from what we use now and it said Sony uxp at the end I guess
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
But don't new drivers ensure better performance? Well usually they do don't they?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Better performance in compositing and GL, yes. But those won't give a major UI speedup either. ICS frameworks are more optimized though, so the update will perform noticeably better.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] LitoNi:
I really want to ask you guys. Since there are more people out there dissatisfied with the ICS for the neo v arc s etc... how many of you are actually looking forward to this ICS for xperia s?

Because there are those out there trying to down grade back to GB for those 2011 phones :l

Im just worried that if they are rushing the ICS out for Xperia S it will be buggy and all ><
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Internal testing, internal testing and a bit more internal testing. They have likely delayed the rollout a few times already because the builds failed to pass QA.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] blakwhite:
It's due to amount of RAM which is too little for ics, in 2011 devices.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
The RAM is enough, but the system itself is heavier, therefore more lag. Also kernel 2.6, which they were somewhat forced to use is slower in places.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] blakwhite:
RAM is the main culprit:

Source: blogs.sonymobile.com/wp/2012/03/30/learn-about-the-technical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics/

...

When it comes to ICS, it’s a major upgrade of Android™, and there are a lot of things that have changed compared to the Gingerbread release. Some of these changes affect the performance and stability of the system, for example by using more CPU power and RAM. ICS was developed with Galaxy Nexus in mind, which is based on a TI platform with dual-core processor and 1GB RAM. We are now adapting ICS to run on our 2011 Xperia™ smartphones, which are all built on a Qualcomm platform with single core and 512 MB RAM. This means that in some cases, the resource usage in ICS is heavier on the system compared to Gingerbread. The following sections identify some key areas where there is a difference between ICS and Gingerbread.

Increased RAM usage

...

Now, let’s look at how the RAM is used. Out of our 512MB RAM, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory slot to operate fast enough. For example, this is the case for certain multimedia functions. The remaining space, which is at least 340MB, is reserved for the Linux user space, as required in the Android Compatibility Definition Document (CDD). Within the Linux user space, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running.

Another interesting thing is that many apps use slightly more RAM in ICS. For example, the web browser is quite intensive, and our measurements indicate that it uses 20-30MB more in ICS compared to Gingerbread. All in all, there are a lot of changes that together result in greater RAM requirement.

...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Less free RAM means less open apps. But 512mb is absolutely sufficient for the system itself.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
The big problem with my old Xperia arc (and the neo my wife has) is that the standard configuration saw the home screen shut down far too quickly. I'd rather lose another background app than the home screen, having to then wait for it to repopulate the widgets and apps in the launcher - which can take a while if you've installed lots of apps.

Okay, so the storage space for apps was another complaint - but not an issue for everyone (the wife has hardly any apps installed in comparison, so hasn't even filled the miserly amount of space, let alone installed apps to the SD card).

If Sony can tweak the low memory settings, or add in options (as I believe they have said they will in some form or another) then it may well make ICS quite usable. But, once gain - preventing the home screen from closing is a must! Fail to do that and the phone will always seem slow.

So far I've not had the Xperia home screen close once (apart from when it crashed) and that's part of the reason why the phone feels so nimble all of the time. I can jump around without any delay and that's more likely down to the RAM than dual-core.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcoplo:
guys tell you what we got ICS in poket Sony might delay but it will give us ICS

let start think about jelly bean ->fast five :D Google with their android release are too fast too furious

which will be out ther soon;)

joking
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kartobot:
Well,I don't get it why everyone is so crazy about jelly bean.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
kinda excited people here although the update isn't coming before end May/early June lol.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
About RAM memory on 2011 devices, my old X10 Mini Pro, with 128 (or 256? Not sure) Mb could run CM9 acceptable well, that without Adreno drivers. Had less home screen restarts than on other versions
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yakandu:
Idem. Desktop system on a phone? lol nope

PD: Why care about 2011 RAM? we have Xperia S, 1GB not an xperia arc(haic)...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
ahahahah right, but it means that ICS is more expensive of resources than GB -> more resources=more power consumption -> 5 hour battery
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Again, ICS gives you a full day of heavy use on a single battery charge.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
My wife have S2,she is noy heavy user.

The battery last 2 days on GB and 3 days on ICS.

I don't know why but this is the facts.

GB 2.3.7 is a battery consumer like MIUI.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] blakwhite:
Hence longer opening times for some apps as there are already less open apps.

ICS will also utilize dual core.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] adicuigrec:
ics

i heard something about ics in late may or early june. hope this is the case
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Sixth time, thanks again.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Jonfensu:
A Neo V User

Xperia S users: Do not worry.. Of course you will get a better update than ICS for 2011 Xperia phones.... ICS features With XS features: Kernel 3.0, Music Player, Dynamic Lockscreen etc i mean BETTER SUPPORT by Sony... and About RAM and Sony Blog words: Sony did a good job with the RAM Management in 2011 phones, because i can get around 10-20mb more than Stock GB it means 210mb free RAM that is enough.. The problem with the update is that lacks of new features and the poor performance in th UI :mad: ... Thats why i am waiting for the XS update ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] intellix:
ICS coming in Late May or June

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...eam-sandwich-update-arriving-may-june-1080412
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Seven.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
two weeks:(:(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] blakwhite:
It's almost time we saw a video leak in the coming days or next week at least.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
LOL I'be been following your count and enjoying it :) I bet you'll get over 15 before the actual release.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
next week would be the grand final if they hold to their promise of late May.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
Eight? LOL
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Okay this should not be counted but now I am pissed what the hell ics 4.04 leaked for the 2011 line and lol we the 2012 guys are like oh it'll come now it'll come now seriously one good leak just a video will do please pretty please any Sony guy who might happen to read this please can you?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
Where is the leak? Which device?,
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Efe64:
You saved my life thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Xperia Pro 4.0.4 for developer devices. I took resources from it and I'm updating my KA Ice Cream Sony rom for Xperia Arc, Neo & Ray with it.

I don't see much difference, it's a bit smoother and there are some extra functions I think. Haven't edited the framework files yet so I'll wait and see until I finished my rom update to see if performance', smoothness etc are improved :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nit:
I thought it was for X Pro only. Does it work on other devices as well?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Leak = fired. No one wants to risk it for you,
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
PM sent ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dynamic503:
pm ME, thks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dmh1:
Waiting DoOmlord release new rom soon:D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I don't think he will. Official ICS for our device is coming in one or two weeks and it's hardly reasonable to port from a completely different base in such short time. It'll take a week to get it running, everyone will use it for a week more and official ICS will be released.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
I just said that late may is starting next week and should be the final for some countries like nordics etc.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Yes, if you take the right resources from Neo for camera etc it works flawlessly :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
He is a changed man!:D:D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtrab:
This 4.0.4 build was leaked a couple of days ago through EMMA

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26035898&postcount=1

Sorry I just briccked my phone and I am struggling to resurrect it right now :mad:

Any help appreciated. I oppened another thread for help.

EDIT solved, unbricked, up and running :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] elfeneco:
Come on, let's do something else during 15 days :-D and get back brainly available :-S
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
okay now xperia arc s just got certified with a new software version last night

A	4.1.K.0.5	ECO	May 15, 2012

sighs. seriously sony throw us something here anything regarding the xperia s and ics!!!

oh btw k900 I get what you mean but on a side note, not you "US" I believe I'm not the only one who'd want and use it :)

Edit: might just be a country specific version, I don't know about that so trying not to create a fuss :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lullesha:
Ladies and gents, it's official. The suspension is officialy killing me. In my wildest dreams we have pure unskinned 4.0.4 waiting for a simple click on the Update button. Alas it's but a dream...

Sent from my crystal ball using black magic
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] timexx:
I am very impatient waiting for the update. But yesterday Diablo 3 was released so myself and you guys have something else to do now ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] LitoNi:
guys i just found this picture of GX and since its running on ICS does that mean we get something like it? or is it just a ntt docomo thing?

the picture shows the notification screen with the wifi and sound etc . . . buttons at the top like samsungs

really appreciate it if they implement that into XPS
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Not sure, haven't heard anything about it...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Is this fw already available somewhere or only certified yet? ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Smartphoner:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/15/s...art-receiving-ics-upgrade-late-mayearly-june/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
Number 9 or 8 depending on whos counting :)

I wonder if #10 will come today...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wing_zero8556:
maybe this is what the ICS rom will be like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66AzYKunuDk

and lol at number 9/10
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
DoCoMo usually ships a bunch of their tweaks. From what I know, our ICS will be closer to 2011 global devices, but they're taking some more Holo cues in there.

Edit: I tried to walk through the new stuff I see in the video.

On-screen buttons: very unlikely

Status bar toggles: unconfirmed, but unlikely

New (ICS style) settings: very likely

Versions: Android 4.0.4, kernel 3.0.8 confirmed, build 7.x unlikely (might be a later update, but 2011 devices never got 6.x and I haven't seen 5.x anywhere, so it might be just something device specific)

Buttons on the 'navbar' in the app drawer: very likely

Google Search widget: native ICS

YouTube app: native ICS
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wing_zero8556:
Oh yeah on screen buttons definitely isnt gonna be there since we already have capacitive buttons it'd just be a waste of screen estate but the notification bar toggles and stuff was what i was referring to looks like its got kernel 3 which is confirmed for us but otherwise some of the other stuff looks quite cosmetic which i like. I really don't care for the technical stuff of ICS or if it will make it smoother or whatever.. i just want ICS cause its ICS lol (yeah im that sort of person)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
I just got 6.0.A.5.12 yesterday on my Docomo SO-02D and that firmware is not listed on PTCRB. It is still GB. A small fix to charging the device. I guess, in some cases, the light would come on but the device would not go into charge mode when plugged in.

I would think a major revision would require certification.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I don't think Japan actually needs PTCRB certifications. Neither does Russia (we have our own authorities do the same), Ukraine (IIRC) and some more countries.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
a look at ics for xperia gx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuHWgwqWg0s
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
Two
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
OMG!!:eek::eek::eek::eek: You can count ?

Good for you :p:D:D:D:D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Ain't that fun if you look just a single page back.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
I know but if you look closely this one has menus in English most of us don't know Japanese like in the last link :) hence the reason to post it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] duikeend:
Xperia S is planned to get ICS somewhere around late May/early June. That's what's been said and that's still what we're sticking to. Any other dates (such as "June/July") is just speculation.

The roll out is, as always, gradual and will not happen over night for all phones. Some phones might get the update in late May whilst other will get in i mid June etc.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
10?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
11 I think.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
So 10 was hit?

Well okay, goal reached for today then :P.

Let's see if we can hit 15 tomorrow...bets?

...(just joking of course, it shouldn't have even gotten to 10tbh)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ang1000:
ics upgrade will be release by end of Q2.

Sent from my Xperia S running Google Android 1.5 Cupcake
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
12
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
jesus christ.. so many people posting the same..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
So let me get this straight? We will get a thanks if we post the ics bit? I think it's safe to raise the prediction to 20 then :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Should we count the it's the same post posts too now?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I'm trollthanking everyone who posts that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
Send them one for me also.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
You guys are really silly.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
A wild BLUETOOTH CERTIFICATION appears!

https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm?qid=19337

Thanks paopao :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Aaand 377 is pretty much confirmed to be the final build. Enjoy your wait gentlemen :P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
are we sure that's lt26i??? nozomi
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Pretty much. Don't get over excited yet, they might fail QA again. The certification is definitely for Xperia S 6.1.A.0.377 though.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
sorry but my english is not too good.

first I read about the QA (quality assurance?) but I don't understand at all the problem. Sony had failed this test with the previous firm, and this 377 is the new candidate??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
From what I know, they wanted to push the release earlier, but one or two RC builds they had before didn't pass internal QA so they had to fix moar bugs before releasing. They really, really don't want any bugs in this update...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
stupid sony, obsessive controls for software, and RIDICULOUS controls for Hardware.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yakandu:
at least they have controls for one of them xD

Asus and sammy (in my experience) have no test for hardware nor software (especially asus transformer prime)

we have only one hardware issue as far as i know (yellow tints) and they are replacing them for free, asus doesnt want to cahnge the backplate of their prims for non aluminium one and we have ****ty wifi/gps signal, ****ty flickering screen, light escapes and tons of deadpixels.

sony rocks XD
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
If ICS contained a single new bug or ran just a tiny but slower, you would have been *****ing about that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vrnsharma:
when u click on PICS on Subsetted design it written there product name-Nozomi_ICS

Product type-End product

correct me if i m wrong but the Sony Xperia S is also known as sony Nozomi

so its proved it is for sony xperia s :))

image attached for verification
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vrnsharma:
:D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Please, remove the email before the XDA question spam machine starts <.<
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
umm shouldn't they pass QnA before being applied for certification? btw so apart from QnA the certification does mean that they are on track with end of May or early June right?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Yes. That's the reason I think this build will actually be final.

Also, QnA is Questions aNd Answers. QA is Quality Assurance. Don't mistake the two.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Oh great

Umm that's q&a. This is QnA quality and Assurance at least that's what I've learnt in my audit books and we use at work

Let's just leave this discussion out of this topic QA it is in the topic
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gizzmoffm:
Whaaaaaaat? What email? Tell us!

*spam*
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
There was an email of one of Sony's engineers. I assure you he won't give you any info whatsoever due to internal NDAs so I just want to save the guy from spam questions he's not allowed to answer. If you're that impatient, start the F5 mashing on PTCRB:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
I got notification about an app in the software updates,EA games.

First time :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
--- please remove ---
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
I got this a few days ago.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
Btw I think all u impatient guys should go through patience training by LG G2x ICS release schedule class.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
Or buy a Motorola phone. The Atrix is due to get ICS in Q3 or Q4! The Xoom 2 tablets released last year haven't got it yet. The RAZR hasn't (but might soon). I am not sure if the RAZR MAXX ships with ICS.

I think Sony really did a good job since last year (January 2011) when it admitted it hadn't got it right with updates - and got rid of the tightly integrated features (Mediascape and Timescape) and made Timescape pretty much just an app you can choose to use, or not (and for those that do use it now, I've found it doesn't kill the battery like it did on the original X10).

It updated the 2011 Xperia models a few times, all having Gingerbread, and now ALL of them will get ICS. It's a lot more disjointed with models from other manufacturers.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
So far from the list, Samsung has been on top of it to get ICS for customers as early as possible.

http://www.engadget.com/updates/devices-ice-cream-sandwich/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
They had a lot of time to work on it while developing the GNex and the NS. No wonder they delivered so fast.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Even tho Google wants to have several Google Nexus this time but maybe Sammi wants to be on top of the list and that's why they keep most of their devices updated with ICS.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Well I don't think so. Google will push their branding on the new Nexi and Sammy doesn't want that. They sold the GNex as SAMSUNG GNex WITH Google. For the new Nexi Google has a different target: they want to sell them directly to you, as Google phones with Google's OS and Google's services. Sammy will never agree to remove their branding:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wing_zero8556:
Was just about to post this link lol, cant imagine what LG/moto people have to go through haha