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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] optimiss:
Has Gary addressed the diagonal wavy lines issue yet? As someone who bought the Prime partly as a drawing tool I am dissapointed. For those who don't, know it is impossible to draw non-wavy lines. The issue is most pronounced on diagonal lines. The app Touchscreen Tune helps alleviate the issue slightly but is not a good solution to the issue which needs to be addressed by Asus.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
That's not entirely true, you just can't create a steady, straight line by going a slow, controlled speed. Just swipe across the screen quickly and you'll get good lines, just not good control.

Some will say the digitizer sucks and so you should give up on using the Prime; I disagree, I think the digitizer is fine and our current drivers and implementation of HC/ICS just aren't up to par. Give ASUS some time to stop flailing about with all the lockups, reboots, and hardware issues and we'll likely see some better use in the future.

That being said, no time soon will this issue be dealt with IMO and it's an issue with almost all Android devices, just to varying degrees. Density and screen size play parts as well, my phone makes the same wavy lines they're just that much less noticeable.

I personally got the Prime just for fun and games, and to have fun with Tegra3 if our dev's ever get nvflash support from ASUS who says talk to nVidia who says talk to ASUS :mad: But I had hoped to use it as a digital canvas as well, having played with plenty of Wacom tablets I wanted to give it a go with an actual tablet, but here we are. In all honesty, you'd have been better going with an iPad 2/3 if drawing/writing are your big concerns for a tablet as opposed to an open ecosystem and full control.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ostizzle:
The Prime had such potential. Asus doesn't seem to care about the details. I've returned two Primes so far because of cosmetic defaults that never should have passed quality control. On the first, the recessed portions on the bottom of the tablet where the tabs on the dock insert were bent to ****. On the second, the upper-left portion of the screen wasn't seated completely and would move when pressed on.

I installed the firmware update before returning my brand new Prime to Target today and guess what? The browser still hangs and YouTube still flickers. Why is there no changelog which lists the supposed bug-fixes? My guess is that the fixes are non-existent. We get an updated live-wallpaper.

When I first tried to run MyCloud and was given instructions to download the Asus PC Suite, the URL given was a broken link. Managed to download it from another location on the Asus website and when I tried to install it gives me a connection error. Searches on forums show these to be common issues.

Where are the "awesome new features" touted by the new firmware update? Where is Gary's big announcement? Do I keep trying to hunt down a new Prime (freaking ridiculous that they're STILL out of stock most everywhere) in the hopes that I get one which is actually worth the $500 price tag? Or do I wait for the fabled Infinity which was announced months ago but won't be released until June/July?

I hate the locked down, childish-looking interface of iOS, but the thought of having a tablet which actually works properly is quite appealing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] luminus69:
Actually, wavy diagonal lines only occurs if you draw using a precision stylus. No such problem (at least not as obvious) if you draw with finger. Maybe as far as ASUS is concerned this is "within spec", so improving this would be low priority.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I and most others no longer have YouTube flickering issues. Those who just posted on still having flickering should try a soft reset to see if that helps. This newest update has fixed my browser lag, flickering issues and I haven't had one random reboot. I am extremely impressed with the bug fixes. Good job Asus, looking forward to the upcoming news.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ostizzle:
I have a feeling that those who are waiting for the "big announcement" to be something other than the lackluster firmware update are going to be sorely disappointed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gooser91:
What is a soft restart, and why would it help more than shutting off/turning on?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Not positive, but I think it kind of clears some system cache or nvram or something that a normal boot process won't handle.

I think it's mostly just a fail-safe though, in case the tablet gets stuck and the power button does not respond. This actually happened to me, the button would turn on the screen, but would not turn it back off or bring up the power menu. So I soft-reset, and upon boot had full functionality with my power button again. Just one instance.

Not true. You get the wavy lines regardless, I don't use precision styluses just a normal one, and even though I have it I use my fingers more than it because I have a screen protector. No matter what, if you use slow speed and even pressure, you get wavy diagonals.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
That's the nature of capacitive digitisers. They use static field to read finger position, and any field "floats".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
No the field does not "float".

Actually it is very precise.

Put a ruler acrossthe screen and leave it there in exactly the same place.

Draw repeatetly a line along the ruler.

The result is one single well defined wavy line.

So the prime detects touch points very accurate but just puts them (very accurate) in the wrong pace on your screen.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ock:
Fifa12 flickers halfway through a game, switching to home screen and back again fixes it, but sometimes it will crash to the home screen without any error message.

Hope Asus can fix this soon
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I only wanted to say.... this update was amazingly & shockingly .... LAME
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
At least you got an update, I'm still waiting for mine. :/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] edster00:
I have to say I'm pretty happy with the update; it didn't break anything for me and I'm pleased to see the battery stats fixed. What surprises me are the battery stats themselves! I am surprised that my wifi takes such a large % of battery... >70%?

I'm anxiously awaiting the next OTA update,I hope it completes the wifi direct implementation and also, I'm looking forward to the "Big Announcement".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kevinm2k:
I'm seriously hoping this isn't the "big announcement" when are we meant to be finding what it is?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
Sucks when you are happy that update didn't break anything, doesn't it? Just shows what low expectations people have for Asus.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zephyrot:
Has nothing to do with Asus, if you ever owned an updateable device, you should know that with every single update, from ANY company there are always issues. Some of them bigger than others, but there is always someone with an issue caused by the update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
Agreed. With new versions. Follow ups are normally bugfixes. Not in case with Asus. I will give them benefit of the doubt though, they are still fairly new on Android market.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Here is one for the optimitis here:

"Out of Office until 3/22/2012. Expect delays in answering questions unless email address is provided. Major ICS Update Coming in a Week for the TF201 and another

announcement shortly."

Would this be the week of the exciting announcement? ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
cmon Gary bring us the big announcement

(tell us it's a fully unlocked device1!! :) )

want nvflash ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
He said the ICS update was coming a week from then, not the announcement. The announcement has no timeframe other than just "shortly."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Ummm I was refering to the upate was released last week... so the announcement is just shortly afterwards probably this week.... Should have read the "optimists" part of my post SMH.:(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SteveG12543:
Sorry, I misread what you wrote before lol... That's what I get for posting before I fully wake up. Sorry! :o
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Kasper31:
Maybe this is the awesome news

Google to Start Charging for Android?!?

Tamar Trocki, Drippler | APR 01

This will probably come as a surprise to you, as it did to us, but Google is going to start charging for Android use. According to information we have received from an executive-level source at Google, the company is going to start charging for Android starting from the next ICS 4.04 update. And so it goes with the days of free, no strings attached Android use.

Here's what we know:

Google will be implementing a fermium plan, giving users a choice between an ad and an ad-free option

The Paid Ad-Free Option:

Will cost $49.99 a year, but users will get a $25 credit for the Play Market (formerly known as the Android Market) Users will also have to pay for any major future updates

The Ad Option:

Will be free and integrated with Admob, Google's mobile ad platform Banner ads will appear in a widget like space on the home screen and will be irremovable, but hey, it won't cost anything

We even managed to snag a quick snapshot of the free version!

Snapshotof the free option with Admob banner

Many of you still haven't even received the first ICS update and are now learning that you're going to have to pay for it. Yet, in reality it could be worse. Google is being very helpful in trying to make the transition smooth and pain free for users. After all, Google is still leaving users with the option of free Android use and is even giving credit for the Play Market to users who choose the ad-free option.

Here at Drippler we realize that this information is probably coming as a surprise and we'd like to hear what you think about these changes. Which option are you going to go choose - the free version (with ads), or ad-free with Play Market credit?

So going from this news looks like google is trying to go Apple.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
wtf you talking about.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vittogn:
....... with free devices and data plan! This could be acceptable!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] :
Everyone should stop flaming ASUS. Not even Google has a forum or a representative that is proactive in their products with bug fixes and releasing them in a timely manner. They even updated their TF101 to ICS, before all other companies. They are trying. They admit they're not perfect. You have an issue, post it. I have my TP for over a month and no issues until this update. Don't get me wrong its greatly improved, speed and such. But the single issue, Glowball, a game i don't play, doesn't work. I'm going to return only cause i want the 1080p Infinity. I love the screen on the TP. But I'm one of those who has a keen eye. And the ipad3 retina display isn't much better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Yep. It's April Fools Day, alright.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
APRIL 1ST

Need more hints ?

---------- Post added at 09:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ----------

you beat me to it wynand32 LOL
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] brantje:
Just had my first spontanius reboot.

Was using overskreen to play a vid, and ICS Browser + for browsing XDA.

When the vid ended, i expanded the window from overskreep, when suddenly the prime rebooted.

Didn't had this issue before .21...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] opentoe:
That's right chief. If the big annoucement is a FIX for the BT/WIFI issue and my Prime is in transit back to me, guess what? Put 2 + 2 together and I'm sure you'll figure it out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] julien.me:
Mine came back from RMA to fix the "unknown s/n" issue and GPS, it came back 3 weeks after and sure the s/n is now showing but I still cannot get OTA ... *SIGH*

Had to put the "magical" .21 manually ...

I will give .21 a shot over the next few days but I am not expecting miracles.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DavidColemanFL:
can it be done?

This wifi problem i have; not a strong enough signal in my office . Is there a way to connect the prime to my cellphone to use my cellphones wifi connection? I know i can tether it with the data plan but want to use its wifi connection so i can have no cost incurred.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tobi01001:
Looks like the DE SKU update is being rolled out. Downloading right now.

/Edit:

All went well. Rootkeeper did a great job again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] simard57:
pdanet on the tablet

foxfi on the phone

it bluetooth teethers for you
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Misera:
If you're phone is rooted, Wifi Tether app works.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] houtx2:
I have wifi tether on my phone but for some reason my prime will not connect. It can see it but keeps saying obtaining IP address. Any one else getting this? Used to work. Maybe I need to download a more current wifi tether update. The one I am using is probably 6 months old.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
That's what happens when I try tethering with my brother's phone on CSpire. I've yet to get it working, I'm guessing some MAC spoofing or something will be needed. Not sure what your issue would be though, since it used to work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] r0ck0:
I'm using wifi tether on my phone and the prime connects without a problem. Did you authorize the prime in wifi tether on your phone?

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] houtx2:
Actually, the prime was not even showing up on my phone to authorize. I'll download the update this weekend and see if that fixes it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
You are not one. That was in the beginning during the GPS wars. Lmfao You are just strong opinionated like me. You don't need to stay quiet. We are calling out the obvious trolls. So you shouldn't need to feel offended. There is a difference between having separate opinions n someone who obviously trolling.

But lets not derail this thread before trolls come..lol.

Ultimate rule is to not feed them n try to ignore them. As they constantly mention your name, it becomes obvious they have some kind of weird obsession with you and look dumb.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Haha, and as far as that goes... I'm right. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Back to topic, I really do appreciate Gary's help here lately! Asus has problems just like any other company, but name ONE company that actually replies to threads not even related to the company's own website?? I am going to guess that Asus will release updated Primes in the two weeks, then give users with defective Primes the option to return it to a store for a quick exchange,(probably from where it was originally purchased from) Kind of like a recall. This could explain the delay in shipping new Primes out to retailers.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
I know, that's why I keep trying.

Gary is for US only I believe.

I contacted Asus UK and so far they said they escalated it to their service team. That's it. Oh and initially they said that I was unlucky and they can do nothing about it.

There were no RMA, I simply returned them as faulty. Yes, 7 (or 8 now as I have another one coming tomorrow) is extreme, but I had no help from Asus so far. I'll just keep buying and returning them until I find a good one or Asus does something about it.

In the end, for me its inconvenience, for Asus, it costs money in repair,refurb,shipping etc.

As I said in UK stock thread, guys should be thankful to me for filtering bad units out of the market :D

P.S. big big kudos to Asus for having an official rep here. I'm still not convinced about faulty units percentage (can you blame me after 7/7 faulty units?), but its good to know that we, such a small community, are heard and taken into consideration.

Sent throught the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimgirl:
Thanks Gary for keeping us informed.... Appreciated and look forward to hearing more about whats coming next.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Norcalz71:
I will be eagerly awaiting the "exciting news" to come in two weeks, hopefully it is some sort of resolution to imperfections that do exist. Announcements like that are what are causing me to hold off on purchasing.

For the record, I do NOT own a prime yet, but planned to get one once I could play with one in stores, but then the talk of issues came up and I have held off.

The problem that I have as a potential consumer is the apparent wide variety of end product quality. Some people paid $500 and get great wifi/gps (so they say), some paid $500 and have medicore wifi and no gps (so they say) and some people paid $500 and get cracked screens from normal use or random reboots (so they say).

To anyone saying "just enjoy your prime, it might have issues but just accept them etc etc"...pump your brakes. People are upset because they are not getting what they paid for. If anyone complained that they were unable to control the international space station...I get it, that was never an expectation. However, people paid for certain capabilities that are apparently in some cases not being met, do not tell them to just relax and accept the product as it is just because it's still better than everything else. When the competition sells 300 hp cars and you buy one with 400 hp, only to find out a few things are screwy and it only has 350, you can be happy that it still has more than the competition, but still upset that it does not have all that you paid for. Just because it is below advertised expectation but better than the rest is not cause for absolute celebration.

So back off the people with legitimate gripes, just because one person finds a flawed feature unnecessary and thus not a deal-breaker does not mean that another person expects to have that feature functioning if they paid for it.

I still want to buy one of these things (I almost bought the dock the other day with a coupon I had expiring) but I will wait to see what this 2 week announcement is. It is great that an actual employee is keeping concerned customers in the loop on the product timeline as many other companies would never entertain such an option. Let's also remember that that employee has a job to do too, so while I believe Asus is making an honest effort to remedy these problems for the consumer, I hold some skepticism that they are doing everything under the sun possible to fix everything and provide the product 100% as originally intended at launch. I am more inclined to believe they will address some issues to the point where most people are content, but stop short of a 100% perfected device (as "perfect" as perfect can be). It would be very refreshing to see that proven wrong though, hopefully it will be.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mannequin:
great post. just wish we'd get a clue on the Infinity's release date.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jordache16:
So from what I can tell you are in a position where you've gotten yourself all riled up over what you are reading on the forums. Well guess what, people are more likely to come on here and post if they have a problem versus if they don't. What do people do when they have a problem with a product they just bought? They try to obtain help with the issue and/or check to see if others who purchased the same thing are having the same issue. One of the main outlets for doing this is through forums as it typically is quick and effective. This is why you see more threads like 'My Wifi signal is weak' versus 'I love my Prime and have no problems with it what-so-ever'. In fact, a lot of the times you will see people who do start the latter type of thread get flamed for doing so. Point is, you have to take what you read on here with a grain of salt. And this is part of what Gary is trying to point out. The actual defect rate for the Prime is relatively low and in line with other similar products. The other thing Gary pointed out is that there are also people that come on here and post false stories to damage ASUS' name and/or products in order to benefit in some way.

Sure, there are going to be defective units that are released to the consumer. That is the nature of the industry. But I think you need to just buy one so you can determine for yourself if you like it or not. If you buy one from BestBuy for instance, have a problem or don't like it you can simply return or exchange it. That's it. End of story. Its not like there is any type of risk involved. You won't find yourself saying "Oh shoot I bought a $500 toy and have a problem but I can't return it. I just threw $500 down the toilet. ASUS really f* me this time....". That isn't going to happen.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Shadowlore:
Hey Tinky, I'm not attacking your credibility or anything here.. just wondering... you're not buying all these primes from the same distributor every time are you?

I only ask, because there are certain resellers here in the US with 2 Big B's in it's name that is notorious for accepting damaged pallet-fulls of merchandise and selling it as brand new.

Only reason I ask, is that of the 5 people I know (myself included) that own one.. the only issue has been 1 device that the pogo pins obviously had lifted up a bit... a light squeeze got his wifi working properly.

Obviously, if you're ordering it from the same place.. they might have a crappy batch they've received (either thru manufacturing defects, or simple damaged in shipping) and are recycling within their own system. (Keep track of serial numbers in that case, so they don't actually send you back one of your previous broken ones ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
No, not from the same. From 3 so far, and no8 coming tomorrow from another one, Amazon UK. Stock just appeared there, so hoping for a newer batch. 8th time lucky?

Sent throught the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Norcalz71:
I think if you had read more carefully, you would notice I already am taking it ALL with a grain of salt. I specifically listed peoples experiences "so they say", it is obviously 2nd hand information and obviously no one other than that user is going to have knowledge of the exact circumstances. They may be exaggerating, they may be accurat e, they may be leaving something out or they might be flat out lying to us. Same could be true for Asus. I doubt it, but it could.

Additionally, defective and failure is open for debate too, those are relative terms. Not saying we are being lied to there either, but there is much more to that scenario than just saying it has a 1% or less failure rate. Grains of salt there too.

I would not say I am "riled up", but yes, what people are posting is creating pause for me. I am WELL aware that someone with a great product likely won't start 800 threads saying "its great", while those with issues WILL be inclined to start threads to either complain or diagnose. I intend to wait a bit longer in the hopes that asus discovers some official fixes of their own. I do not need this thing, I just want it. If there were no threads about the issues, or they were much much smaller, I would probably have bought one already. As it stands, I am observing how this unfolds. Also based on discussions I have read here, I am about 90% sure I could create a home hardware fix for the signal issues if I had one in hand, but I'm not paying $500 for a tablet right now so I can rip it open and make improvements (assuming it would need it, maybe it won't). Either way 2 weeks won't kill me. It's not like I'm saying **** it and going for an ipad because "they're so great".