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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Norcalz71:
How is it two-tiered any more than what appears to be their current product plan with a 'slightly' upgraded prime released shortly after the original with improvements? That either says they knew about the problem ahead of time before the primes release an pushed it out anyway, or they somehow mossed it entirely during testing and the early adopters became beta testers. Either explanation is bull****, and why else would the supposed flagship model go from all aluminum to a hybrid aluminum/plastic back plate which inevitably 'looks' inferior in aesthetics to the soon to be asus mid range prime?

Tooling for the injection mold setup for a new plastic backplate that they undoubtedly already have very detailed specs and drawings for in metal variety is not exactly a costly operation.

Halt production, retool, ship out post-retool models with the altered backplate and offer a recall/backplate swap for units already shipped to the consumer similar to rma. For those units already out there you will incur shipping costs, labor to disassemble and reassemble, and the cost of 1 additional backplate. Given that users here are able to disassemble with relative ease I cannot possibly see that process being labor-costly.

Not to mention, how many people will really go to the trouble of sending it in for 'the fix'? You speak as if they are going to go to every prime owner and demand the unit be returned....recall and backplate retrofit are optional and how many people will really take them up on it? Im betting I am being very generous with 1 million units sold but id they have moved that many, how many people would really take them up on a recall? Not 1 million I can promise you that. Xda is not an accurate sample of the overall tablet owning population.

ASSUMING the signal issues are backplate related...

The TF201 to TF700 plan with the new backplate 'fixed' on the tf700 is basically a huge **** you to prime buyers. At least retooling the prime backplate addresses current customers and offers them the product performance (hypothetically) that others will eventually receive at current owners expense. Good customer service and a solid reputation is worth a could million easy, if it would even cost that much. Companies have spent more for less since the beginning of business.

Since you're rocking quite the condescending tone, I assume you work within an industry that would manufacture a new backplate and have some great industry insider cost data and you know $1 million is far to low to create a mold system for an already designed product?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dabels1961:
Back to topic?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
We ARE on topic :D Might as well rename this thread to "Speculation about future announcements".

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smrsxn:
yes this is funny. we will have an unknown update and an unknown announcement coming at unknown time in future!! go figure!

I login multiple times a day to xda only to check updates for this... a week maybe so far...tiring. oasys mirage in desert.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
I do this as well. I also just wish I could get a reply from my PM. I just sigh when I look at my TFP at the moment. Taken it in 3 times already. Screen cable keeps coming loose. Makes it pretty unusable :/ I could have bought a dock already with all the expenses i've incurred to get my Prime working :/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
If anything I'm ready for the major ICS firmware update! I hope it comes tonight or tomorrow.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jonbristow:
For those of use old hp/palm owners this is sounding like "in the coming months". Please don't take this as any attack. Gary i'm sure is being tied to corporate policy on what and when news is released. I just thought it was becoming amusing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
This! :-) +1 its getting time...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Why whats wrong with the current one? Wierd how Japan is on the .17 and the US is still on .15 and the next one is .19 or .20. Could there be possible difference in hardware amongst the different region?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scrufy:
I'd say things like language prompts in Android, and Kanji support, and PAL that Japan uses for Video may have something to do with it.

---------- Post added at 12:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:26 PM ----------

+1

I've been watching it all and don't get a lot of things here.

1) I have a problem

There is already 50 threads on the same issues. Read them, don't make another.

2) How awesome it is

There is already 50 threads on the same issues, Read Them, don't make another

3) You don't have a clue what ASUS will be doing, announcing, etc...

Thats the truth. Get over it and wait until they announce it.

Your a genius marketing guru.. so what, you don't work for ASUS and unless your sleeping with a board member, it's just a guess.

4) Gary is a xxx

Face it, you have someone from the manufacturer here who is actually reading your posts (or at least he was).

Send him a pm if you want to whine about your specific issue - refer to #1 and #2 above for everything else.

Be happy you get any info, be it marketing slime, or real insight.

The alternative is Motorola or Microsoft.

You think they give a rats behind what you say in a forum? Think about it.

Until recently, ASUS wasn't even in the tablet market so this is new territory for them. They are basically a harware card manufacturer gone device retail. They have issues with handling things in a timely manner. Understand it or just get a refund and move on.

5) If you don't like your TFP so bad-

Don't return it 4 times and ***** about it. Send it back and go get a hello kitty tablet.

Nobody is twisting your arm to keep getting the same product you obviously think is so flawed.

Your not contributing.

Dam I have been on XDA lurking for years then a member for last 4 or so years and never saw a forum with this much whining and totally non constructive conversations.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
you basically correct. he can't just come up here announcing anything. this major news has been in the works for a while and needs final approval from his superiors. it is coming soon though. people have to be patient. it will be worth the wait ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 131313:
I know someone who isn't telling everything :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
No offense, but how would you know this for certain?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tallon:
Date in Title?

Gary,

Is there any chance that you can put the date of your last update in the title of the thread please? It would mean that I am not checking the thread several times a day :)

Thanks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
No need to check this thread. The minute something's announced, there will be 10 new and entirely redundant threads complaining about how disappointing the announcement is, no matter what's announced. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeJags:
Thank you.......I needed that laugh!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 131313:
Update available on ww sdk

well whenever I take it ...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] texstar:
buhahaha That there is funny! :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ohwell:
The news will get here when the news gets here. I hope the update comes soon just so certain members here will quit trying to infer that they know what it is and how great it is when they dont really know squat.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
lets just say I have a good hunch about it ;) hopefully it will be good news one way or another.

I know right. that was a good one. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Because he buttered himself up to Gary & Asus and seems to get advance test builds or info .... based on previous posts I've surmised from
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
that was funny. well call me Land O Lakes/Country Crock then :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yvrAndroidNut:
Maybe we will all get a nice case to solve the "antenna/reception" problem similar to what that fruity company did with their phones..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeroDan:
Wait, wait...are we holding it wrong?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Sadly.. receiving a new case won't solve our problems.

1. Replacing the backplate isn't as simple as iPhone & it'll require antennas to be re-positioned (well, unless we get a plastic case similar to Pad 300.. re-positioning isn't required)

2. WIFI + BT issue seems more like other h/w problem... not just backplate

Anyways, this "major" announcement will more or less.. disappoint many who are coming up with some "illogical" hypothesis. Be pragmatic, practical, & realistic.... no matter what Demandarin proposes/heard from.

Again.. my guesses are either:

a.) Transformer Prime to be the FIRST (Asus loves being first) Playstation Certified outside of Sony devices

b.) possibly Ubuntu from Canonical with "dock"

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeroDan:
<Joke flies over head> :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
you have to read posts more closely, buddy. Demandarin never proposed/heard anything. all I said is it'll be good n probably worth the wait. especially to someone like you ;)

I've never said anything specific and it'll stay that way. :cool:

as far as your guesses go, I could only hope PlayStation suite comes. Ubuntu would be sick also. if anyone of those two were to occur, it'll even surprise me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] durfed:
+1000

Just wish everyone here would stfu.

What happened to XDA ?

pathetic nowdays...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] compuw22c:
I blame US carrier tethering policies. Otherwise half the people on here wouldn't even have discovered this site. Most people don't know how or why they want custom roms, what features, they just want to use their laptop for free. RealUser: "Yea, you install a single rom and you get automatically rooted, busybox installed, overclocking and undervolting kernel, CIFS support, USB host support with NTFS and modified camera for increased bitrate for video recording and audio sampling rate" Noob: "So like I can use my laptop without paying $30 a month right?"

I know there are still good devs and users who want to know every nook and crannie of their phones/tablets but most just want info and "App" type products that do amazing things for free but have no interest in even providing logcats to support their "demands"

(I know the tethering thing pertains to phones but most people discover XDA by first having an Android phone).

Still love my prime. Would love the BT/WIFI solved, even more so with the GPS, but it's still constantly listed in the top 5 tablets on the market (#2 to the iPad on CNET right now, though for most people here Apple is not an option they'd consider anyways, myself included). It's a great tablet, and while I certainly want issues resolved, we're also much more inclined to notice issues than the iSheeple who think their wifi is fast because it can load a mobile page in like 5 seconds *rolls eyes*
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
Gary did say exciting news......

Should be a very nice surprise coming for everyone....:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>I blame US carrier tethering policies. Otherwise half the people on here wouldn't even have discovered this site.

Blame popularity. XDA is now the major tech forum for Android devices.

http://google.com/search?q=asus+transformer+prime+forum

Which is why we now get these types,

>>Join Date: Mar 2012

>>Just wish everyone here would stfu.

>>What happened to XDA ?

>>pathetic nowdays...

>[Prime is] still constantly listed in the top 5 tablets on the market

>...iSheeple...

For one so concerned with popularity, calling other people "sheep" is spot-on. Thanks for the laugh.

>Gary did say exciting news......

For a marketer, all news are exciting.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] durfed:
Well said sir.

You have my respect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
Soon(tm) anyone?

Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scook9:
Gary, I apologize if this was already addressed, but question:

Why not offer the OTA updates to users with unlocked bootloaders? You do not have to support it as we voluntarily voided our warranties but why exclude us from these updates - what does Asus have to lose?

Additionally, along the same thought process - if we have voided our warranties and you do not have an obligation to support us, why not give us a properly unlocked bootloader as supposed to this half way version that is currently out?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
1. They're dicks. (This is not entirely true and I apologize for offensiveness :p)

2. Because that's too logical and fair. Plus, as some have speculated, it's likely they're trying to lock it down to Android/Linux so that we're not throwing our own versions of Win7/8 on here, so they can sell entirely "new" tablets to meet that demand.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DavidColemanFL:
bought 2 primes

I have 2 primes gave one 2 my daughter that i used for 2 months with no problems. Took my wife's prime cause she don't use it. It has rebooted once so far and the browser hangs up a lot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yatyas:
I understand what you are saying here but consider this. Some manufacturers have released updates that have had major issues. If Asus pushes one of these and it ends up bricking some Primes, people with warranties are covered. If you have voided your warranty you would be SOL. They may be trying to avoid being responsible for damaging a device that they no longer cover. They still release the update on their site (granted its days later). Are these updates still able to be applied without modifying? Even if they are not you can always be sure that someone will modify it to install and leave it stock.

/my2cents
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] boakesm:
Surely if you unlock you can then change system settings that are locked normally. Or even switch to a custom rom. I know Asus have some points to answer for but it would be impossible for them to regression test an ota without testing every possible change an unlocked user would or could make. Clearly not possible ..and the reason in reverse why rom cooks block ota as of course there changes may break an ota an either way risk a brick.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
the official firmware from Asus site can't be flashed to unlocked primes. it will cause a hard brick, as several discovered the hard way. they can wait for a developer to take a look at firmware and modify it and incorporate into their new rom version update. most custom roms have the latest firmware tweaks baked into them anyways.

plus most people unlocking shouldn't be too concerned with OTA anyways. the whole point to unlock is to run custom roms. if someone is that concerned with OTA updates, then they shouldn't be unlocking. which is partly why cooks block that feature anyways. if you running a custom rom, who knows how it'll affect the rom you running. more than likely would brick your tablet. if you unlock, leave it to the developers to tweak the firmware upgrades as they come. they know what to look for and how to deal with it and how to implement it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yatyas:
Customs ROMs are not the whole point as some like to just tweak the stock ROM but have piece of mind they they will be able to get back to where they were, if they bork something up, via nandroid backup. Not trying to disagree with you, just making the point that some that unlock do have interest in OTA's ;-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] krispy521:
Usually what happens with the phone updates, is a dev will post a stock rom with the update incorporated for someone that has unlocked to flash. I can only assume that the same will happen for the Prime once updates start coming (I dont' believe an update has occured since the unlocking tool has been released).

The downside is that you would have to reload your apps with titanium backup and set the Prime up again. Since I do this atleast once a week with my phone when I change Roms, it doesn't really seem like a big deal.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
There is a version of the stock rom available in the development sub-forum that can be flashed on an unlocked device. Presumably this will be made available for future updated versions of stock too. It might take a few days after any OTA release to come out, but if running the latest stock rom on your unlocked device is what you want, it's definitely possible.

Some people unlocking may be more interested in dual booting Android/Linux, as is possible on the OG transformer. I'm not quite sure what the status of this project on the Prime is, but this, more than any custom rom would be the main draw for me to unlock mine. I'm still hoping for Ubuntu for Android to come to the Prime, making unlocking and dual booting unnecessary. If i did unlock though, I'd almost certainly be taking advantage of one of the custom roms over the stock though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
I know you were just responding to someone's question....

But if you wanted to be on a stock rom, there really is no point in unlocking your bootloader. The whole point of unlocking is to get away from stock; flash custom roms w/ custom settings, custom kernels, etc.

For instance, I'm running AOKP Rom and loving it... I therefore have no concern when a new firmware update is coming out, b/c it doesn't affect me in the slightest.

Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pbelcomp:
I would want to have the bootloader unlocked so that I could use ROM Manager to make an image backup of my stock ROM.

That's what I do with my G2X phone.

That way, I can restore my backup after troubleshooting issues such as severe battery drain.

So, it doesn't concern you for the way you use it but it may concern other people who are doing something different.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think rom manager isn't fully compatible with prime yet. only lets you install latest CWM. the flashing of roms, booting into CWM and backing up doesn't work in there. the makers of it need to tweak it. only real backup you can make now is manually booting into CWM and making a Nandroid backup.

if something has changed, someone correct me. but last I've seen of it, those functions still wasn't working on prime. as far as doing it through rom manager.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
*sigh*

I really wish I could get some modicum of a response. I have taken my Prime back to ASUS za about 4 times now with a screen issue. The first time there was a sort of "brightspot" - would show yellow on a grey screen. Now it seems as though the cable is loose, so the touch isn't registering properly. My GPS used to work, now it doesn't anymore.

I really really like(d) my Prime. It is the perfect device(when it works). I use it as a work tool, not a "nice to have" device. I just wish the issues I have would be sorted. I paid the equivalent of 860$usd here in South Africa for it, and all the other costs I have incurred I could have bought a dock too! I'm just trying to get my device to work :| Announcement of the Infinity was just salt rubbed in the wound as well.

Not impressed at all ASUS...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Ouch.

10char
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Coderedpl:
I didn't check this thread for a few days on purpose...and still no news -_-
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] daniel60104:
well, technically, the 'about two-weeks' timeframe that he gave on 3/8 isn't really over yet... so maybe check back in another few days?

Meanwhile I think I'll go return my TFP (and get a second one) since I can't catch a wifi signal anywhere 15 feet away from the source with this
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] edster00:
By my count last Thurs. was 2 weeks from OP made 3/8, seems "about" is the operative word.

I'd recommend Gary for a raise...in the near future! ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shreddintyres:
dont you mean "about" 1 year :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Not totallly true.

Cw recovery & complete system backups are 10x more valuable to me than any rom.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
.21 update coming on the 30th. can't wait to see what it brings.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BSMan1011:
3/26/2012 Update

1. Firmware Update 9.4.2.21 will be released by 3/30 for North America. Updates and fixes galore for the lack of better words.[/QUOTE]

FINALLY been waiting to here that for 2 weeks now
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TransformerPrime:
Nice! Finally a date to look forward to :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jwe222:
Well i guess that means something for the rest of the world :confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
But the 'major' announcement...

Still just an indefinite 'soon'!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hduong22:
Way to be vague about fixes galore.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] texstar:
Sure glad it fixes galore. My galore has been broke forever! Lolol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Hahaha couldnt he be any more general. Its just like the exciting announcement which we dont even know will be released since it has to be approved from the top, he was best to keep it to himself until there was an approval to release it.

Now we have 3 days to add more speculations to this thread about what ":confused:fixes galore:confused:" entails.. I hope it would clear up the 3 stickies of problems (lockups, bluetooth/wifi, and serial), add to that improved wifi reception, and bring back the GPS hehehe.. Wished he was more specific so people know what to expect on the 30th.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rogerchew:
chill guys, at least we know by 3/30 it'll be deployed. sit back grab a cold one, the change log will get published soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
So that means a 1 April WW release? Does that not bother anyone?

Something tells me they're gonna rickroll us! :p

On a serious note, still no reply to PMs.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SilverAthlon7d:
Looking forward to the update!

I am looking forward to the update, I have been having a lot of random reboots in the last few days, reading pdf's in Polaris office, in camera still mode, and browsing the web.

Glad to see an Asus representative active in the community supporting a device that is in the upper echelon of today's tablet products.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] texstar:
LOL!! After the firmware update when you boot your prime it plays

Never gonna give you up

Never gonna let you down

Never gonna run around and desert you

Never gonna make you cry

Never gonna say goodbye

Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] awirtz:
ROTFL

Long live the Eighties and their high-priests Stock, Aitken and Waterman. Where's my hairspray?

Honestly, I'm again marvelling at the fact, that they are still not able to release a firmware to all regions in one go. Why are they pissing off all the others _again_?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mmilestone:
LOL! Would that be a Boot Animation of Gary singing? :-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
With April 1 coming up, it seems appropriate.. :)

[YOUTUBE]oHg5SJYRHA0[/YOUTUBE]
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] boakesm:
So when will it be released in Europe. .etc. what has been timing's in previous releases.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yod-b:
I'm far from being an official source, but as I saw there's no big latency in WW and US releases.

Well, that's what I hope at least ! :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sBel:
Last firmware was one week after USA release.