yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
good catch, I meant sold in general. I edited that post.

if product is not defective at all then it could be resold. just because someone buys one then immediately returns it saying its defective doesn't actually mean it is. If Asus tests it and there are no flaws or defects then it can be sold again. there are no refurbished primes on the market right now from brick n mortar stores or online retailers(no eBay..lol).

plus its like you said, they really only hurting other consumers in the end as far as availability or possible price increases across the board.

so people who do that just out of some childish vindictive tantrum eventually get caught up down the road. we had someone doing that and Asus found out nothing was actually wrong with returned units. Their account was already flagged before for excessive suspicious returns on other computer products. If you feel you've been wronged, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Then the announcement was said "months" ago is false. its been a month at most so far. if people waiting and expecting some kind of trade in or upgrade announcement, they will be sorely disappointed and set themselves up for that. The announcement will be regarding a new "Fix". which he generally stated in an update or post before. It has to get approved first. The world doesn't revolve around us and we get everything exactly when & how we want. Patience is a virtue. People just have to chill out for once. Constantly complaining everyday in an "Announcement" thread is not chilling out..lol. take the complaints to the issues thread.

---------- Post added at 03:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:06 PM ----------

well stated. people can complain if there's a valid issue BUT there's an appropriate thread or place for it. Not in every single thread or chance you get(not saying you, as my quote from before was meant for opentoe). Its fine to report an issue and complain, but keep it to the appropriate thread. this is an Announcement thread. not an issue or complaint thread. people can easily post in one of the other sticky threads on issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] robertg9:
And I always thought only women were big teases

Bob
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
If you dont like it, return for a refund

I just find it amusing how some describe the Prime as a piece of junk, or those who have multiple RMA's an how they are so frustrated with Asus. Last I recall, Asus does offer a full refund if you're not satisfied right? So why continue to bash a product that you have issues with, yet won't request a full refund?? I'm not an idiot, if my Prime didn't work to the standards that I needed it to, meaning WiFi connects an works well at a distance, my WiFi an Bluetooth can work together without causing my WiFi to be unusable, then I would promply return it. If the second one didn't work, I would request a refund. Simple as wiping my ass after using the toilet! Yet, people act like they have no choice but stick with Asus, or claim that they can't get through to Gary...have you smart folks tried customer service an requested a refund??? I was one of the early subscribers, an my Prime connects to my WiFi quickly, an I can travel through my house with no problem streaming with both WiFi n bluetooth. Yes, the back plate causes issues, this is well knowsn. If you don't like it, request a refund an go praise your new device. How many times do we have to read the same complaints from the same people over an over again?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
What makes you think we haven't tried to get a refund? I am also not being refunded my FULL expense by the way... Once again, I didn't buy the Prime as a "nice to have" device, I bought it as a work tool. I spent a lot of time and money, trying to get this thing to work. Now I've had enough of it, and asked for a refund and they won't give me all the money i've spent on it back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
Fanboys – a marketers dream

http://www.hjelmtorp.com/daniel/2008/04/17/fanboys-a-marketers-dream/

"Fanboys comes in many sizes, shapes and “obsessions”, and it’s interesting to analyse this phenomenon. They are the best and worse customers at the same time. On the good side they them self become great spokespersons for the brand they love and (in some cases unaware) help market the brand ever further. Reliable customers who you almost can count on will by any new version or product you ship within that brand. On the other hand, cause they’re so dedicated they become hard to please and easy to backfire. If a new game or product is released, that won’t satisfy or please them, they usually will react more than non-fanboys, cause the expectations is very high."

"No one can force or try to control a fanbase. The free will is very important, to preserve the authentic of the fans. Some companies may find this scary not to be able to control their brand, but they should be happy to have a fanbase if they do! That people dedicate their time, energy and emotions to YOUR brand or product. Be ****ing grateful!"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
What do you mean by full refund? Are trying to get a refund for the device, and accessories you purchased, as well as your bus fare/gas money for traveling to the store to purchase the tablet?? If so, then please describe what planet that you come from, because I have never heard of a company refunding for their product and all accessories purchased. Also, you can not say, "we' because out of all the complaints posted, not one person mentioned that they tried or are in the process of trying to get a refund..it's just, my 2nd RMA my 3rd etc etc. The fact that most companies would not even offer an RMA speaks volumes to me. So if for some reason Asus is denying you a refund, please post their response to you and send a PM to Gary on the matter.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
1. I'm pretty sure any opened box item cannot be resold as new product (against Law I believe...). This is the reason why Gamespot has crappy return policy.. they cannot resell any opened box item as new item.

2. Honestly, Gary Key did not mention anything about "fix" when it comes to announcement. Unless.. now.. you think/believe/informed by your source that "firmware" updates are the major "announcement" now.

Also, I find it very ironic that the person who started/fueled/hyped the major "announcement" is now telling people to back off....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
The major announcement is just a 'Fix' now? I thought it was supposed to be some sort of major new feature!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] r0ck0:
I wish the prime would show video subtitles on the TV when playing via HDMI. Currently the A/V goes out HDMI but the subtitles still display on the tablet. I emailed the developer of the Dice video player, which is by far the best in the market, and he said this is device dependent and would need to be fixed by the device manufacturer.

Hey Asus,

Fix the subtitle overlay issue so they are displayed via HDMI.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SlapYoSelf:
If your prime is working so great, why are you in here *****ing and flaming people for posting what they are experiencing with their device. You dont have to read anything dude... simply exit the thread and go **** with some chicks or sumthin...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Since when is posting some simple common sense called b*thing?? B*tching is when you complain and complain about something, when you can obviously just return it for a refund. It may be hard to comprehend for someone like yourself, because you like to post dumb comments..but if i spend damn near $700.0 on a product, and it didn't work after the first return, then you bet I would ask for a refund, not spending time on a thread complaining about a man named Gary not helping me or why I hate the prime so much.

I will stay on the thread and reply with common sense as I please. Instead of replying to my post with an insult, have a three year old read my reply and I bet he would understand what I am simply trying to explain to you better than you can.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joedeveloper:
FWIW, I bought my TFP at Best Buy. Have had none of the major issues described by people, requiring an RMA or return. Games all play without crashing. Youtube flickering is gone after the .21 update (pretty sure that was an app issue non-related to the actual TFP).

Don't use Bluetooth, so I guess I'm not a good test for that. WIFI isn't as weak as everyone is claiming. Then again I have a Netgear 5gHz/2.4gHz 750mbps with 3 antennas. So dunno if I'm a good test, but I tether against my Samsung Galaxy S 4G on my tmo plan all the time and it's fast, as fast as my phone for wifi.

Haven't had lighting issues, panel issues, cracking issues, creaking issues etc.

Maybe I'm just not looking closely but I use it every day and haven't had any noticeable problems that would frustrate me to the point that I wanted to return it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Yes, not all Primes have issues, but the backplate and wifi/bluetooth issue causes crippling problems for some, but not for all. It would be great if Asus can just replace the backplates, this will make them look good, boost sales, and make us all happy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
"3/29/2012 Update -

I hope to announce some TF201 updates in the near future. We are finishing TESTING and should be able to discuss the update shortly.

4/2/2012 Update -

Still working on the details regarding the ANNOUNCEMENT and once FINALIZED it will be RELEASED as quickly as possible. "

It could be considered a major feature and it'll be new to prime. :p. I think we don't have much longer to wait, based on his most recent update. We just have to bear with them on it.

Keywords: TESTING, ANNOUNCEMENT, FINALIZED, RELEASED=Fix, or at least I would think so ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CycleGeek:
I did a quick Google search to see that the time between the TF201 passing the FCC on November 2nd and the time that the TF201 was released to Amazon for preorders on November 25th.

TF300 passed FCC on March 2 or so - so I'd like to believe that they're starting to sell the TF300 right now. For $399 it would sell like hotcakes - hopefully that is the announcement!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] :
Please PM me if you find any more info like this, lol. I'm trying my best to wait til this tablet comes out to finally get a tab but I'm getting string urges to buy one of the current tabs instead. I want one so bad. :(

Sent from my Creamed Out Glacier
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] graffixnyc:
I already spoke to Hai at asus weeks ago when the first rumor of replacing the back plates was going around. He said there will be no new backplates but there is a fix that will improve RF signal. The tablet will have to go in and have this mod done (they also did this for the early tf101 docks that had battery drain issues, you had to send in your dock to get a part installed, but was limited to the first batches of docks) When I spoke to him, he said the repair facility would be undergoing traning for the mod and should be ready to start working on units in about 2 weeks(this was about 3 weeks ago) I've been wondering if this is the big announcement that they will publicly make it known that you can send in the prime to get this rf fix. Mine is already set up to go in for the fix(as well a screen fix for dead pixels) and it's going out as soon as they ship me back my Tf 101 so I'm not without a 10.1 inch tab :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] undercover:
4/2/2012 Update -

Still working on the details regarding the announcement and once finalized it will be released as quickly as possible. In addition, I have gathered additional details from a few users who are seeing locks or weirdness after playing a Tegra 3 optimized game after a few hours. I will be in California next week to work with NVIDIA and Google on this problem and browser slowness or closure that a few users have also reported.

OMG!!! Next week to talk about browser, another week or two to setup browser tests and to try to replicate it, another 1-2 weeks to find a solution, another week to push OTA!! Great. Good riddance TF201, good riddance.. Hope TF700 is released after being fully tested and all the fixes from tf201 being carried onwards.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joedeveloper:
That would be interesting if that is the big announcement. In reality, since I bought the protection plan from Best Buy I can bring my TFP in any time, no questions asked and return and get my money back for up to a year.

I'd probably just do that rather that send in, since I don't really notice the RF issue all that much. Plus side, is that I can take the money and put it into the new TF701 :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
if you look back to beginning of this prime forum, devices didn't arrive in peoples hands until end of December and that was in very limited numbers. Most of the Early Amazon orders and others got cancelled initially. I think it was they took on way too many orders vs. what was actually shipped out. So most of those people didn't get a prime until mid January or so. Gamestops came thru on time though. I got my prime at gamestop b4 people who preordered back in November. I preordered early-mid December and got prime in hand December 22. it was funny as most of us wanted it before Christmas. lol

so these next Asus tablets will be very hard to get at first also. don't get stuck on a release date. ill say right around June. Same for Infinity Pad. Earlier if Asus builds up the numbers fast enough.

seriously doubt that's the announcement though. that'll more than likely be something separate down the road. They more than likely to announce to tech sites first on an official updated release date.

---------- Post added at 05:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:55 PM ----------

that's one helluva plan. any time for one year and no questions asked? damn...how much extra did it run?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joedeveloper:
Haha I know right? I actually have done that with a few products that I've gotten from Best Buy. It actually costs $99, but for no questions asked and I can walk in and do it made the difference. There are other warranty sites online but this just seems to work well for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] graffixnyc:
Here is a screenie of the email. I obviously blacked out his email address and last name
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] graffixnyc:
I just bought 2 year square trade accidental warranty for my prime. I got it on amazon for 86 bucks. I hear they are very good too. So once it does come back from RMA I plan on unlocking it since it will be covered with ST
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
yeah, seems like a perfect route to a new upgrade every year without really spending the extra cash for a new tablet. you could always just get the money back from previous device. what's the deadline, after purchase, to add this protection plan?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
First, new features could easily be software related, so the fact that Gary is talking about something obviously software related doesn't imply just fixes. Second, a fix would just be making all the existing features work without adding anything new. It would be nice, but is expected as a matter of fact, not worthy of the buildup and fanfare of this 'major announcement'.

Oh, but I thought you knew what it was.:rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
they already announced this a while back. that will be on a case by case basis. meaning they would see if your device qualifies and if it does, then they apply this. if not, then according to Asus its working up to spec.

---------- Post added at 06:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:14 PM ----------

I plead the fifth ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jonphinguyen7:
Too Many

Nobody likes a tease, especially us techies; Either spill the beans or don't. Or, admit you know nothing more than the rest of us. :mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
no spilling the beans..lol

Gary himself already hints at what it is in his most recent updates. its generalized but hinted at. Plus it still has to get approved. its his place to "OFFICIALLY" announce what it is and the details of it. I've only said my opinion on the matter. you can take it with a grain of salt(or as someone recently put it, a shovel load..lmfao) or take it for what it is. I'm anxiously awaiting, like everyone, else to find out "Complete" details on it. We all can determine what seems realistic to be announced and what seems far fetched. Usually the realistic scenario is the one to go with.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joedeveloper:
Yeah I thought about getting a Squaretrade but there are usually deductibles on their plans which was a con for me.

---------- Post added at 03:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:33 PM ----------

I think its a "Do it at the register" kind of thing. So you have to account for that in the total purchase but that's exactly the reason why I did it.

I thought there was some sort of catch. Nope, plain and simple.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I'll bet Best Buy makes an absolute boatload on this kind of plan. Typically, a tiny percentage of people actually take advantage of them, for whatever reason--laziness, complacency, forgetfulness, whatever. I remember seeing the numbers once, but I can't remember where--anyways, I seem to remember it being in single digits the percentage of people who actually utilize such a plan.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I know I would remember because that'll be the money for new tablet down the road. Bit I can see people getting it and forgetting all about it. Techheads normally won't forget something like that. The avg. Joe consumer more than likely would.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ohwell:
Somebody out to make a game out of the mind games played in this update thread. I for one dont believe Asus or Gary would continue to feed anyone inside information that they dont want public with everything some people insinuate here. You could call the game Believe It or Not(that might be copywrited like transformer prime). If you really know something spit it out , If you dont just admit your guessing like the rest of us. Otherwise I fall into the or NOT column.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
But he really didn't. About all that really be discerned from what he's said is that it's likely software related. This rules out things like a trade in program or a hardware fix, but it really doesn't tell us anything substantial about what it is.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
you didn't hear about it yet? that case already is settled and Asus won. judge basically gave Hasbro a verbal thrashing as the 2 aren't similar or confusing with Hasbro brand at all. The tablet can actually be considered "transformer or transforming" because once it's put into specialized dock, it transform into a notebook.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Doktaphex:
My personal theory (dream) is that the announcement will be related to decrypted bootloader and nvflash access. That is my guess and I'll be delighted if it comes to fruition, as I'm sure most other folks around here would be. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] snapdoodle:
Its going to be a device that connects by wifi direct to improve wifi and GPS, just what I think after what I've read on different sites
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Well, again, to be entirely accurate, the judge decided against Hasbro in terms of the sales injunction that they sought against ASUS. He basically said that Hasbro's case isn't strong enough to ban the sales of the product at this point, particularly as compared to the hardship such a ban would impose on ASUS, its partners, and consumers.

However, the case still has to go to court. It's certainly looking good for ASUS given the judge's language in denying the injunction, but it's not over yet.

---------- Post added at 05:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:02 PM ----------

Again, to be technical here, there's no copyright involved here. Hasbro owns a few trademarks around their Transformers products, and that's what in dispute. Don't mean to be pedantic, but it bugs me when people mix up copyright, patents, and trademarks. They're all very, very different things.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
yeah, it was a preliminary win for Asus. Injunction asked by Hasbro to force Asus to stop using name till trial ended was denied. Asus has that in the bag though. no one is confusing Hasbro toys for Asus products. The prime isn't even advertised on t.v. lol or at least I haven't seen it. two completely different product lines. An easy win for Asus, IMO, in final judgement.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Demandarin, lol

By the way people, some were confused on Gary's 3/29 update...some thought he was speaking on .21 which was already released, or that the big update mentioned on websites was the also .21. This is partially correct.

Gary's last two postings do provide clues if you understand that on his 3/29 posting he was not in fact talking about .21....

I would hate to be bashed here, but read between the lines people....its definitely not a trade in program.

Funny how Asus released a WiFi direct option that doesn't seem to work an still hasn't been adressed yet even in his 4/2 update..wondering why??
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] David522d:
DUDE..

Uhh, I've got some determined to get good WiFi on this beeech. Putting tinfoil on the top right, i'm not even going to lie, it worked. But I couldn't bring that to work and have all my Ipad friends laugh. Ive set up an access point in my room now just so i can use it everywhere in my house. As for the GPS, If you put a coat hanger on the top right of my prime "INSTANTLY" picks up sats. Without the hanger its crap. I'm in the same boat as you dude, I want to RMA it but I feel its going to come back the same way it did. All these terrible stories of RMAing on this forum.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think wifi direct will be addressed. I mentioned it along with the games issue. wifi direct should be easier to fix through an update as I don't think it was ever "Fully" implemented yet. Games and browser might be a little trickier as to finding out what's causing those random issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Oh oh, just thought of something...what if the people who used the unlock tool are not Included in the upcoming announcement (if it's a trade in program).

No warranty, no trade in.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gage_Hero:
I'd like to see some screenshot of with and without...not that I don't believe you but I'd like to see the difference...:D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ahent:
I would also like to see pics, if only to see the TP looking like a TV from the 70's with a coat hanger for an antennae. I wonder if I slap it like an old black and white TV if it will get better wifi?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
I'm just going to say one thing...

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.