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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] katsuru:
A Sony Sales person for the Mobile phone department visited a Mobile phone shop where i was installing a surveillance system... needless to say i automatically got in touch with him, shared some info about the main problems affecting the phone and stuff ( Off topic: He had a 12w06 device and no Yellow tint, comparing to my old device and a brand new one from the store which had yellowish screens, his was clear! )

I got as much info as i could from him and he told me about 4.0 ICS coming out in June. I cant confirm that he is right, but this guys go monthly to Sony formation school so they can get in touch with new devices, new softwares and stuff.

He also told me and described the Xperia P which was his favorite Sony device, he spitted much more info than it was available on the Specs sheet he brought with.

The Smartwatch was as well described pretty accurate and much deeper info was given than once again available on the specs sheet he had with.

which proofs that he had tested both with his own hands, as he describes the uni-body from the P made of aluminum to feel completely high-end on the hand, the antenna part is still plastic like our S and the touch buttons will be located directly on the LED bar and not above it like on our device. If he gets devices delivered before their official release date worldwide, software will be no different!

I would say the betas shall hit the mark in may and the real deal in June. He also did not mention ANY alpha build or beta, I am sure he would have if they had tested it already on Sony's school.

Do not guide yourselves on my information, I/he could be total wrong about releasing dates, i just thought it was worth sharing.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bill1clinton:
Off topic but, it boggles my mind why our XPS, being the flagship phone, do not have the aluminium uni-body while a lower end unit gets it....
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wth_is_life:
So it would sell, duh !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bill1clinton:
Perhaps you do not exactly understand what a flagship phone entails. Let me enlighten you. A flagship phone should generally includes high end and premium features (ie. aluminium uni-body) which thereby allows it to fetch a high price. The XPP is in a lower segment at a lower price (one of it's selling points), which does not necessarily mean it should not have any unique features but with that being said, adding the aluminium uni-body (which generally is viewed as a premium feature) to a non-flagship phone is akin to a slap in the face. Now, please take your ignorance elsewhere.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
You didn't include yellow tint.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bill1clinton:
Haha, yes, I must admit that one is a pretty big slap in the face as well. At least Sony somewhat owned up to it and are offering free repairs/replacements.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] looker1:
+1
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RiotRick:
Have you seen google chrome? I guess not. Dolphin HD is what I use on GB as well now, but chrome is way ahead of it.

Navigating through tabs much improved

Syncing with your desktop browser

Remote debugging ( Yay! /me is webdeveloper ;) )

Smooth scrolling

Etc. If you've used it, there's no way you're gonna prefer dolphin.

See here for an overview:

http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/android/features.html
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jerwaz:
Hmm...

Google chrome is only available for ics devices... Isn't it ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
If you mean Chrome, yes.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yardglass:
Ok, so I'm also wondering why everyone seems to be so eager for ICS. Is there any other reason than Google Chrome?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Roman91:
performance and shortcuts :D

ICS is more functional
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Custom roms. Sony's UI is nice, but I prefer stock. Having ICS means having all blobs needed to build an AOSP rom such as CM9 or AOKP
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] HQXU:
Mostly because ICS tastes better than gingerbread :p

Click below to find out

http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] harishrohaj:
Out of several plus points of ics, one is that you can use multiple accounts in gtalk.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] roby200487:
sso ICS for Xperia S, when can we have?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
in a little bit. Its almost around the corner by the end of Q2 but god knows what year.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Matt1408:
Something that bugs me is that this phone will have a dedicated menu button when the menu button will be obsolete in Android 4.0. Would there be a way to install a mod to change the functionality if the button to search?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Maybe. It won't be obsolete. The three dots won't appear, as device have the menu button. But, as you said, there must be a mod to make menu button a search one and make the three dots appear.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Three dots are part of the screen and they are there anyways. ICS buttons can go away and then probably Sony will register these as those?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
They won't be there. I am using ICS on my X10 MP. It don't have any dots on screen. Unless some apps that you can activate it (such as CM9 Music).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Dots on screen in Xperia S are actually below the screen above the transparent bar. Captivate button. Maybe I mis-understood you?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I think we are talking about 2 different things that got confused LOL

Sorry. Let's start again:

No, the capacitative menu button will keep as it worked on GB. There won't be the three small dots ON SCREEN (like GNexus), as the apps will detect the menu button and hide it. As said, some dev could make the menu button work as the ''Recent apps'' from ICS or as a search button. With that, they would have to work on some way to make the three on screen dots appear and work as they should. But this could cause incompatibility with un optimized apps. And they propably wouldn't work, as we don't have virtual navigation buttons.

So I think: If any dev manage to edit everything, it should work like this:

Back button: Normal press, normal action. Long press: kill app

Home button: Normal press, normal action. Long press: nothing or recent apps.

Menu button: Normal press, search or recent apps. Long press: search, recent apps, or menu action.

What I mean is: Someone will think on many combinations to have 6 or 7 functions on 3 buttons :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pezo:
I just did a quick google for what you mean and I personally wouldn't want to use screen real estate just for buttons that I have in hardware anyway.

Although it would be nice to be able to see the buttons at night...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Matt1408:
A note, the 3 dots that do come up are only if the app does not support the new Android design scheme. So eventually most apps will be updated so the menu button will be nicely hidden away in the app itself.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
Might just sell this phone and get a g nexus.

Argue all you like but amoled>lcd regardless of pixel density!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Do it. You know that is why I always wished before that next Google phone goes to Sony.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
I don't think you understand what pixel density means, because the Xperia S has. A higher pixel density screen over the Galaxy Nexus.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Re-read his post. He gets that the S has the higher pixel density, but is of the opinion that the lower res AMOLED is still better, which some would agree with.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
My mistake, amoled is better in some aspects but I still prefer the higher pixel LCD of the Xperia.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
everyone has their own taste... so buy the device u like and enjoy ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
But don't buy HTC One X ;)

Hey Doom, your "Thanks" bar is about to explode. I may just hang some plastic bag under..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I never saw any of the three devices with my hands, but, from videos and photos, Xperia S appears to have the best screen in my opinion.

What happens when the thanks bar reach it's end? The user win a super god permission? LOL
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Not that I have Yellow tint issue on my Xperia S, but from day one I was leaning more towards Xperia P and screen is suppose to be better even tho intensity is less but with that white *** thing.

Just stopped by Sony store and they had X10 and compared with Xperia S and I think 4" is good for me and what I do.

When the 'Thanks' bar fills, it will start leaking and XDA system will go down and of course end of the world..see its 2012 and its all happening :D

ICS should solve many issues, if it doesn't then Jelly beans and if not, then next one.

Google Sony Xperia phone FTW...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Xperia P have the WhiteMagic, but a lower resolution. I don't use much the phone on light, so Xperia S good for me.

And Xperia Nexus sounds REALLY sexy LOL
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
Where do I post new rumors about Hayabusa? :p Don't think this is the right forum, but no where else to post LOL
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SEFanX10i:
Don't tease, just post :p

You know we all would love any little info we can get about the Hayabusa ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
The battery life on the One X sucks... Really disappointed... It also heats up a LOT!

:-P

Don't depend on videos... Test out the devices in hand... I compared the displays of Arc, One X, SGS2, Xperia S... The Xperia S indeed has the best display...

Apparently when the thanks meter fills up u get some goodies from XDA :-P

Oh come on... Post it everywhere ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] necrohiero:
Well.. The only thing i am waiting for is Wi-Fi direct..

I hope this is not a sloppy update like on HTC Sensation XE.. My friend just updated his phone few days ago.

Probably it is smooth.. But the UI is ruining the ICS. It's more like gingerbread on ICS skin or something..

As smooth as it goes.. The stock gingerbread in Xperia S is already good.. (Not perfect..)

Let's hope that this update wouldn't be a ridiculous one..

Would love the browser or chrome in my Xperia S tough..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
Along all you guys have mentioned, I am waiting for this feature: :)

[YOUTUBE]QMbHNzENkEY[/YOUTUBE]

I know we have voice input now, but does not work the way as on ICS.:P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It's really crappy for non-english languages though.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
Hmm, at the moment on 2.3.7 it recognizes my polish pretty well, so I was hoping it could be even better with ICS. You know how to cheer people up, don't you.;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] necrohiero:
Lets see if it support indonesian :p..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
no, this is not a appropriate place to do that. Click on my name and send a message. That is the way to do it... :D

C'mon now, do you think we are all in a good health condition after Yellow Tint and no ICS in April? I may not last that long so you better start now!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
April is not over yet * hint hint *
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Oh, 9 more days to count and then countdown the rest of Q2. At least they didn't say "during the half of 2012".
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
Don't jinx it now. :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] unknown13x:
Hayabusa is confirmed to have 8960 chipset with Mint despite all the rumors. So that's confirmed. I know people will ask why not Pro version and such. I don't know. :D It will have microSD card slot now. IMO, I'm starting to feel like they will now use the "arc HD" for this device :p Though I could be wrong, just IMO.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
thank god they keeping to Snapdragon chips!!!

thanks for the info!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
This has to be a good thing. The One X shows just how many apps (including Tegra3 optimised stuff) that hasn't been updated to position the three dots properly. With hundreds of thousands of apps, the One X set up is quite annoying because some developers may take ages (if ever) to update.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] khayjason:
Then what's the Xperia duo?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dmh1:
Wait ICS so long time hic:o
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
anyone knoes when is haybusa coming??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
21/12/2012
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
Not worth it then. We would have only few hours to play with it;-)

Wysłane z mojego zajebistego Sony Xperia S za pomocą Tapatalk 2.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Mano1982:
We woluldn't even have time to use DoomKernel for Hayabusa :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
But at least, you can use ICS on the remaining time and in few short hours, you won't notice any yellow tint on screen. With all that in mind, maybe Doomlord does a pre-release kernel....after all he loves us as we do back. ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I know it's kinda off topic, but someone is planning to port AOKP to Xperia S?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Yep.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SEFanX10i:
@Unknown13x

Can you tell us when the Hayabusa will be announced? Please?? :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
haha this hayabusa probably will be released when the jellybean is around and they will be releasing it with ICS and will take like another 4-6months to release JB.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ahmedoxo:
hope will see ICS very soon
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marousa_king:
wtf is Hayabusa? :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Something that is supposed to be Sony's true flagship.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Some more news from my SEMC friend: he didn't get any updates in the last few days. Not sure what it means, but they might be getting close to release.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
I really hope they are getting close to a final release :) This would really boost the Xperia S community :D & probably the sales 2 ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dynamic503:
they are in 30/04 and 01/05 holidays in VIETNAM :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
01/05 to 04/05 are holidays here too, but it's hardly the reason.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] minhtri:
what about Mint ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] michaelasd:
Hope it will release at mid may~~~
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
ICS for Sony tablet S just released.

Hopefully we'll be getting it for Xperia S any day now.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
Let's hope so :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dgattenb:
I have not seen this link anywhere esel but I hope it helps:

Hayley: The phone wll be updated during the rollout which is taking place throughout Quarter 2 of this year.

Hayley: If you wish to track how the roll out is progressing, we will be updating the Support Forum thread below with each handset as they become ready to update.

http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/178141#178141
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
This is for 2011 models.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dgattenb:
yup thats what I was given ... june / july said hayley
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] iain26:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/184194#184194

says here 4to 6 weeks till the update
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Unlikely so long.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
I think now it's the time to update it,

cause I saw that they have updated Tablet S too,

So I'm thinking early may the first week there will be an update for sure.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Is this leaked Hayabusa (Sony Xperia GX?)?

http://www.datacider.com/24285.php

more info

http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11234326923.html
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reptile64:
with rounded corners like the Samsungs and HTCs... pffff...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
That could be only screen shin and bezel could be a different shape. But side profile looks like Xperia arc a bit. With 4.6" screen size, this could be totally same size as Xperia S with bigger screen. Xperia S bottom is too long wasted.

I could be nice and could be a nightmare.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
They are planning on introducing a new flagship phone already?

Hyabusa? :confused::confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Its a working name. And its just rumor mill right now, we dont know when we'll see it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
Just throwing this out there...

But this is the ICS thread, not the Hayabusa thread. People (like me) are going in here when there's a new post hoping to see new information, actually about ICS. It's a little annoying to come back after an evening thinking "well damn, something must be going on, there's a lot of new posts", and seeing it all about something that there's already a topic for completely unrelated to the release of ICS on the S :/

I'm not a mod or anything, but can we please try to keep this on topic?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Interesting stuff: Sony just pushed an update to the Smart Tags app with ICS support mentioned in the changelog. Considering that the XPS is the only device that has smart tags, something is coming...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] charmz2k2:
Just came to say the same thing :-)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
You know same here but see I just recalled something I saw before the xperia s was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_pOUqxyQZ1E#t=172s

check it out p and u were to come out around 2nd or 3rd may but now they are delayed for manufacturing reasons and will come at the end of may.

Back to the point . May seems like the time that ICS will be out, maybe 3rd week of it by my guess and you know with the smart tag app update kind of points towards may.

lets see fingers crossed!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
My sources say that before mid May is very likely to happen. I can't confirm this yet, but it looks like they are just waiting on certifications now.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
incase its gone for certification phase then we need to keep a close eye on PTCRB for Xperia S:

http://bit.ly/xpsupdates
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I've got my bot waiting on it :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dgattenb:
Not sure those updates are that good, I don't have. 73 yet :-(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marousa_king:
A friend of mine who works at carphone warehouse said it should be coming around mid may
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Static-Noise:
Yes, I've heard rumours (good ones too) that Ireland and GB can expect to have ICS pushed next week (Monday onwards), so it should be coming for Europe at the same time too.

My source is somewhat within Sony. And I've also been involved with the former Sony Ericsson in the past.

I just thought you would like to know. I hope it helps.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
If that's true, I will have my Xperia S in hands in time to get ICS.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It's great to have it independently confirmed. Thanks guys :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scratchling:
Fingers crossed your source is right :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
Lets hope so :D

Sent from my Xperia S via a quantum leap
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
It will never be as soon as next week. From the moment it's certified on PTCRB the rollout will start about a week later. I do suspect it's coming in May (mid-late), but not in the next two weeks.

And stores like the Carphone Warehouse don't really get much more information. They only have contact with retail reps from Sony (Ericsson), and those reps don't get information on updates all too often. I work at the Carphone Warehouse (Phone House in Belgium), and our Sony retail reps don't usually know when updates are rolled out.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Game-Modo:
Gotta be honest I just don't see it happening that fast. Most likely a few weeks away but not Monday. I hope it is though :). Im Still awaiting the .73 UK Generic firmware update for my device....
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Monday is for 2011 lineup, but I got some more proof for mid May date.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] FenrirMX:
So mysterious, lol.

Is it solid, though?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It's not solid in any way. My friend at SEMC called it all ' internal rumors ' so he doesn't know for sure. He had a test device already running ICS for quite some time and hadn't found any major issues, so the porting is likely complete / in its final stages. But now they have to get all certifications and that is not done here.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shoz_on4u:
Hi,

Same here in India we are still on .62 version still waiting for .73. So for people in India ICS is very far i think so ........... siggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Why not just flash a generic ftf?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shoz_on4u:
Actually new to android b4 was on windows mobile. I love my SXS so much i cant take any risks....OMG i getting so much possessive for this lovely piece.....LOLZ :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Flashtool is almost absolutely safe. Even if it goes wrong, you can always flash back.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shoz_on4u:
One thing will it void the warranty??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
You can back up your current firmware and restore it if you need warranty service.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
most of the times the "world generic" firmwares are very few... the majority of firmware releases are regional/operator specific...

so u dont need to worry abt being on the the latest/highest number of available firmware... if a firmware is ment for your region u should have already got the update message unless u tampered and changed ur SI number ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Game-Modo:
I was told by Sony UK that the update for .73 on unbranded phones should have started at least 3 weeks ago but nothing. Maybe this is because ICS is so close to being released? I know if you have a network branded Xperia S you will have had the .73 update by now.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] michaelasd:
if it is going to release in a week or two

sony might tell us that there will be the ICS update soon
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Those first updates were simple and didn't do a lot.

.62 -> Initial retail release, what everyone got in their box.

.67 -> GPS drop fix

.73 -> Battery drain fix (phone goes into deep sleep a lot more)

ICS is coming in a few weeks. If you want the latest updates as soon as they are out, flash to Nordic Generic with Flashtool. It's absolutely safe and doesn't void your warranty in any way.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arc_u:
A french operator (sfr) announced an update for their branded phone beginning of June, so we can expect a release for unbranded phone before June, in two or three weeks :)

android.sfr.fr/previsions-260412/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fishyweb:
Not so, I'm afraid. Mine is O2-branded, and not a dicky bird in sight on the update front. :(

I've just returned mine to Sony due to the yellow screen problem. Hopefully, .73 will be out by the time I get my replacement. Even more hopefully, the replacement will have a bootloader that says it can be unlocked - I like the idea of being able to flash a generic ROM and get rid of branding.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thatrandomasianguy:
Sony actually uploaded a video to youtube showing a ICS powered Xperia Sola a few days ago to demonstrate how to work the smart watch. They took it down pretty quickly after it was uploaded. Just thought to throw this out there
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Game-Modo:
It's taken Sony forever to release a simple .73 firmware update that is still not out in most place so I think the ICS update will be a long way off
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
You know remember last year Sony would send an update when it launched a new phone with it? ?? So mabye this year they'd do this too say with the sola or mabye lt29i just a guess again can happen and you know I think ics will bring the new theme n interface that was leaked before ces in a video maybe thats why taking oh so ever long