yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
That's not Sony. Blame your carrier people, unlocked phones got it long ago.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Game-Modo:
Nope that's Sony UK for you. My phone is sim free, unlocked etc. Everyone I know who is with a network in the UK (branded phone) has had an update. Its a known issue not just in the UK either.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] logiesean64:
Same here,unlocked,unbranded and sim free,still ono bloody update
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shoz_on4u:
Oh FW update issues

Hi,

I thought maybe only India is behind in updating the official FW. Since this is my first Sony mobile/product no idea about it's service but hope to see ICS soon on my device. Anyways any of u guys having older xperia's and updated to ICS, hows the UI is it similar to GB or some extra new features added is it worth that wait for ICS???:confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] harishrohaj:
2011 phones of my friends are updated to ICS. I believe that updates from sony are good. Btw, I bought my xperia s from Malaysia so I hope it will be updated soon. :-)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Official tester preview: "This thing is f__king bad___" :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
^^^ fill-out the blanks while waiting for ICS to get released.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Just wanted to avoid bad language :) But the dude is really impressed. Also the UI is pretty much the same, but with added ICS tweaks like face unlock and whatnot. Remember that it's only a test build we're talking about so it can change any time.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fishyweb:
Not in my experience. My handset is O2 branded, and no update yet.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
Which firmware is he testing?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] andoridkiller:
Take your time sony! We will all keep buying your phones if you provide a nice stable release which is optimized!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
Well IMO I think Sony always does a great job in delivering updates and it's really stable and smooth, I had a Sensation and Now I recently purchased(yesterday) Sony Xperia S and I think I don't see a much of a difference between the two OSs. All I gotta say that I used that phone with ICS installed and some applications weren't compatible with the ICS so far and when Sony's gonna release the ICS like during Q2, everything will be functioning properly, till then hold your horses..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MJ_QaT:
I have to agree with most of you guys, I'll buy an optimized OS rather than a rushed OS for bragging-rights..

I have tried ICS and I have to say except for the browser being faster everything else is not that much of a difference ( minor differences of course )..

Xperia S' UI is very nice and stable, I do have an Arc S with GB yet I find XS better ( 2.3.4 against 2.3.7 )

I'm willing to wait as I don't find it that necessary to rush my phone into ICS right now
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 3Shirts:
Actually going back to the GB browser has been the biggest annoyance. The ICS one is much better and just more logically laid out.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
Why not use dolphin hd browser?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] emorej:
agree...sony has always improved their UI, this 2.3.7 is a great improvement from 2.3.4, and i know sony will be releasing ICS when its fully optimized..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] awf:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/169719#169719

Read the part of the Sony forum moderator...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krohnjw:
Wow, that would be a surprise (although a nice one). A quote in case anyone doesn't want to hit the link. Bolded for emphasis.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zenkinz:
all the talk that they rather wait for a few weeks for an optimized ICS than a rush one is just a self-consoling proposition.

As if Sony when they release their ICS would be flawless ... one never know whether they are taking so long to release ICS, due to extensive quality testing or just do not have the time to do so.

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I won't ready too much to it. He's just saying a week later to check for update for .67...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 3Shirts:
I tried it before, might give it another go for the time being but the ICS browser is way nicer.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Thats what I was trying to say, and I think your version is better..;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mistermakri:
I've read that many Xperia S users are having issues with low battery life. Is there any indications that this could, and perhaps will, be solved with the ICS?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reiji:
The battery problems are entirely resolved after a few days of use.

I've had mine for 6 days now and the battery is great. Today, I've had it unplugged for 12 hours and my battery is at 41%. That's with a handful of phone calls, checking facebook, looking up a few things online, and using Talk to chat with my wife quite a bit.

I'd imagine that ICS will only improve that even more.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Alsarea3:
I wish they just add Cyanogen-Like toggles in notification bar ..

The only thing I miss in my Xperia S
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zenkinz:
I don't have the opportunity to wait for ICS. Just returned the Xperia S because it has the same pin security 'bug' as its previous Xperia products :/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] TommUK:
It should be rolling out to Unbranded Handsets by the End of this Month/ early next
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 3Shirts:
Is that a guess or do you have a source you can link?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
If thats true, sweet, lucky I just bought a sim free SXS, but where did you get the info from ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dibdin:
I think it's more of a guess then anything. Hope it's true but wont get my hopes up till it has been made official.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] OS4.:
In Saudi Arabia , The manager of Sony World said (THE MEANING OF WHAT HE SAID) " After we release Xperia S inside the kingdom , 15 days and it will be updated to the ICS " .

So we should expect this update to come in the first 10 days of April :)

Hopefully they will release it in march ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
i don't really think that we're gonna see ICS before mid may/early june tbh.. although its kinda embarassing to have a phone which is far ahead of the 2011 Xperias specwise and they got the update prior to the S ..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Something might happen soon... * hint hint * I'm not telling you what, but if it happens it'll be great ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
Justin Bieber is coming to Europe? :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
OH HELL NO
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] onemandivision:
hang on, maybe hes bringing ics with him
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I would pick up ICS and then kill him right after that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kartobot:
I would stick with Gingerbread if you just get ICS when watching him.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RawkBob:
Cryptic... :|

Official ICS doesn't interest me as much as CM9 ICS, hopefully the official release comes soon and helps out the FXP folks!

The only kernel sources sony have released for the phone are the 6.0.A.3.62 ones and not for subsequent updates, hopefully they'll push the ICS ones out quicker than they seem to be for updates.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] HlmRan:
Genuine LOL moment :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
It would be the best to do when close to him. And I would be thanked by at least half of the population :D

Going back to the topic, we need videos, screenshots, something...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] FenrirMX:
I love you for keeping us informed, and I hate you for not revealing on what exactly :P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] LahiruRD:
Lol, no one likes Justin Bieber, wonder why :confused:

P.S. I'm not fan either :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiko_1272:
Justin Bieber will be updating our phones to ICS??! :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
The thing is, it doesn't depend on me, and I still need to get a confirmation before reporting anything.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
You cannot give us even a time frame? Like this month or next?

Wysłane z mojego zajebistego Sony Xperia S za pomocą Tapatalk 2.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I can't say anything about the release date. Official release was not what I was talking about.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
ICS Alpha for Xperia 2012 devices/Xperia S?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
More Beta or something. But yeah, the rumors are Sony might drop a pre-release

build quite soon, which correlates nicely with their ' get back a few weeks later ' promise. I take it with a grain of salt though. Don't get over excited people, it's all rumours even inside Sony.

Edit: nope, likely not now.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sssache:
They have to release 4.0 fast...because all the other competitors are releasing smartphone with 4.0 preinstalled. If the Xperia S had 4.0 in March when they start selling this smartphone, i think the sells could have been doubled.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
I honestly don't believe that the vast majority of customers know or care about Android 2.3.x and Android 4.x and would have been put off buying it. The ones that do, like us, knew it was coming later so it didn't stop us.

The phone was delayed because Sony didn't know if it would be starting production as Sony or as Sony Ericsson. It was signed off a lot earlier, at a time when it may not have been quite so easy to get Android 4 on it.

I'd have been quite happy to see the phone delayed further so it could have come with Android 4 out of the box but I am sure a lot of people wouldn't, and I'm quite happy to have been enjoying the phone for a month or two earlier than I otherwise might.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Devtone:
OMG, 4.0 adds two extra cores? Nice!

Exactly, 99% of the people I know, don't know, don't care and don't want to spend time on it more then using the usual services. Some of them get lost in menus and call you at crazy hours for freeloadersupport..

To this day i'm very happy with Sony, especially now the uberdude of the Vaio series is also leading the mobile-division. The future is bright and ill wait a lil for a stable ROM, good hardware, design and materials.

I think it's very hard to compete with companies like Samsung, they spit out new devices weekly/monthly. With allot of bugs with NO fixes and hardware bugs. I have to say that Samsung is doing better then before, still crappy materials. HTC has also learned the trick spend a little more for materials and design, just freaking bloated software.

I've heard that Sony is going to speed up the development to keep up with the others, I don't think the Vaiodude is going mess **** up, This is, JAPAN! :D

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OMG, 4.0 adds two extra cores? Nice!

Exactly, 99% of the people I know, don't know, don't care and don't want to spend time on it more then using the usual services. Some of them get lost in menus and call you at crazy hours for freeloadersupport..

To this day i'm very happy with Sony, especially now the uberdude of the Vaio series is also leading the mobile-division. The future is bright and ill wait a lil for a stable ROM, good hardware, design and materials.

I think it's very hard to compete with companies like Samsung, they spit out new devices weekly/monthly. With allot of bugs with NO fixes and hardware bugs. I have to say that Samsung is doing better then before, still crappy materials. HTC has also learned the trick spend a little more for materials and design, just freaking bloated software.

I've heard that Sony is going to speed up the development to keep up with the others, I don't think the Vaiodude is going mess **** up, This is, JAPAN! :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] damo662:
Reliable source!!

Just had an update from a reliable source within Sony UK, we will be looking at roughly 4wks for ICS to be available on UK networks

(the 24th/26th was mentioned obviously subject to network accreditation) :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
So did your source say if a UK generic would be available sooner?

Sent from my Xperia S via a quantum leap
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
^^^THIS^^^
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
I think ics will be released late may early June latest :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
eventually we will drag our feet another month and get that sucker ICS.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
It's not even listed as certified yet. We have at least six weeks in my opinion.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Actually certification takes no more than a week.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
I do realize that but I'm taking into account all possibilities.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
At this rate jellybean will be out and we will still be after ics!:mad:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
It's coming, have patience. Not even half of devices currently in retail got it yet.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Half?

Samsung has it

HTC has it

Moto is out of this world

iPhone doesn't use it

which phone are you referring to?

You know I am trying to make a point. Patience not an issue, logic is. Sony thought upgrading their old devices to ICS before 2012 model makes sense I think it doesn't. All the above companies have updated their 2012 model to ICS first.

I just doesn't make sense, but you bring good news and we all cheer... :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reptile64:
The point is that I saw HTC one X yesterday and I still can't understand how the Koreans did an ICS rom with so many customizations (Sense UI) and Sony programmers are still tickling their balls (and our nerves)! x-(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
He didn't meant brands, but phone models itself. How many Sammyy or HTC devices has a official ICS? JUst to compare, all Sony devices from 2011 will have it. ALL of them.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
[QUOTstarteE=Felimenta97;25639434]He didn't meant brands, but phone models itself. How many Sammyy or HTC devices has a official ICS? JUst to compare, all Sony devices from 2011 will have it. ALL of them.

You are correct I meant the xperia s specifically, I believe they should not have a sticker on the box saying 'upgradeable to Android 4.0' unless it is, and currently it is not.

I would not have bought a premium phone unless it came with newest software had I known beforehand, and that's just one of the gripes I have from my list!

I won't get started on my list however, as I'd be here all night and its not especially interesting for the majority of xda!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Not get it why we are living in the past. This is 2012, we all paid extra to get a brand new phone...tho with high price at release...wanted to enjoy the latest tech...then Sony thinks that in April of 2012, they should go back and waste their time and update their 2011 April model? That is smart....

I think about it, I can't find a 2012 model phone from any company that doesn't have ICS.

While they are warming up their 2011 users to buy either a 2012 or 2013 or maybe 2011 customers will buy end of 2012 models and ICS is there already.

Why have they called Xperia S the flagship device. Oh, I called it flagship but Sony called it Upgradable ICS phone.

Sony was the first one to announce ICS for new phones and last one to actually put it on their 2012 model

I guess I owe Sony an apology for being a loyal customer.

If it doesn't make sense, do hesitate to tell.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I disagree with you in most parts.

First, Sony started working on ICS for 2011 line WAY before 2012 came up. In fact, right after Google released the needed things, they already started working.

Second, there are lot's (let's say 40 per cent) of devices from Sammy, for example, that launched with GB and will NEVER see a ICS from Sammy. Sony is going to release ICS to all their 2011 smartphone line. Which other companies are doing that? I think it's ZERO.

Third, one thing you're actually right, Xperia S is 2012 flagship phone from Sony. But we're going to have a better version soon. (Like Xperia Arc S was from Xperia Arc). This is called Xperia Hayabusa and Mint. And, as I said on my first point, they started working on ICS from 2011 line WAY before 2012 line.

And, another thing. This MAY be wrong, but I think Sony launched Xperia S with GB to add their devices to the Market before the competitors, so it could be the best thing out there for a while, until they finished working on Hayabusa and Mint. If they waited more to launch Xperia S, they would lost me as a buyer, because, as a Brazilian, I had to ask someone who had gone to US to bring it to me without paying extreme high taxes.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
First off, I won't give you "Thanks" because you are one ahead of me and I can't sleep. :D

See, This is Sony Xperia S forum. Soon you will have one and will get rid of your old phone and become 2012 user. All of us here using Xperia S which is 2012 model and there is no ICS. You look around, big companies have released ICS for the 2012 model.

I am not looking back and see what they are doing for 2011 because I don't have any 2011 phone...because I thought Sony is moving forward with a new device and more opportunity.

They could finish work for 2012 then move back to 2011 or maybe they work faster or maybe add another group of people take care of 2012.

I have had the device for 2 months. Maybe I will wait next time and buy the device few months after cuz.

1) there won't be any problem with Yellow screen

2) price is cheaper.

3) all the updates are out.

after a while, me as a customer will find an alternative. They could have totally release ICS Beta ROM for Xperia S first of April. Then we knew there is something going on and there could be more going on in development section and more interest for the device...they did it to 2011 model and it worked.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I get your point. I just showed my opinion. no fight for that. I just talked about the whole history. Not just the present and close future.

EDIT: Now I saw my Thanks count. OMG, how I got those 50-60 thanks? Last time I checked I only had about 150-160.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
People "Thanks" while you are sleeping. You are doing good.

As you said no fight, I mean we are here to discuss and at least make the wait easier on each other.

After all, we always wait no matter for what company...because we are all enthusiast.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Evynnstarr:
SPAM: Men talk a lot! :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
i completely understand your frustration.

but you have to figure out why you bought this (or any phone). if u wanted on-the-edge-latest-updates then it would have been better for you to go for a Nexus device. if u wanted the latest technology then you should have preferred a Samsung device. if u wanted to stick to SenseUI then HTC was a better choice. i presume u got the Sony handset because u wanted a high quality device which has the best audio/video experience. of course there are "brand loyal" customers.

but then it was your decision to buy the device.

regarding "which devices receive the updates" is a very tricky thing. MANY of the devices released in 2011, from vendors like Samsung, LG didnt even have GB... some of them received GB in last quarter of 2011... Samsung/HTC are only pushing ICS on a handful of devices and even now only 2-3 devices from each of them have ICS being rolled out... on the contrary Sony has been much better to initially release all of their 2011 devices with GB and they have ICS already released for the recent models (ARC S, NEO V, RAY) and the rest of the 2011 devices WILL GET ICS in a month or two...

as for getting out the Flagship device with the latest software, i completely agree with you. they should have shipped Xperia S with ICS. BUT we need to understand that more than 90% of the users dont even know what is android, let alone the need for being on the latest android version.... i am sure that you would know that the merger of SE into Sony was in process during this period... i have a feeling that the Xperia S was rushed into production to be the first "Sony" handset... may be Sony didnt want to miss CES/MWC events so they announced the Xperia S as their current flagship...

now think about it, if ICS was first released to Xperia S then the 2011 device community would be shouting... also work on ICS for 2011 devices was started earlier so its understandable that they will receive update earlier...

BTW the GB framework of SE/Sony is the MOST stable one i/many others have used... i think that was the reason Sony decided to ship Xperia S with GB as most of the hardware-software testing done would have required a stable software platform...

now lets hope Sony doesnt delay the ICS update schedule for Xperia S...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
I am not frustrated :D but anxious to see what this phone is capable of. Sony needs to put itself together even more.

I had a dream last night before you respond that your "thanks" bar has doubled at 12,000 and second one starts at 1 again.

At this stage, things don't matter anymore. If I say anything is to figure things out and see Sony's strategy and everyone here has failed to explain. Of course none of us work for Sony so we don't know.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Sony was really, really f'd up internally by the SE merger. So there is a reason why it's taking so long.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
I have to admit that after owning many pure Sony products, their software department lacks organization and not as powerful.

Design department rocks, hands down.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
There are many new phones being released right now, in May, that still only come with 2.3.x

I think some of the new, lower end, Samsung models from MWC will ship with Gingerbread too.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mikkokartano:
Bought this phone 2 weeks ago and while i love hardware, software is little disappointment. I had Lumia 800 about 4 months and got used to quite smooth operation.

If i'm right ICS will bring hardware acceleration to UI and apps? Programs on Windows Phone are so much smoother than Android versions on Xperia S. Actually I had Android phone about 1 year ago and dont notice almost any difference on speed vs Nexus s.

I really hope ICS is coming soon! Why don't they even publish beta or something...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Low end phones from this year still with GB? *****, please. Tapioca (rumored) is going to have Adreno 200 (the same as my old Xperia X10 Mini Pro, with 800 Mhz, 200 Mhz faster than my, thought, with 256 Mb of RAM and ICS with Sony UI.

Sorry, just had to say that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DooMLoRD:
well let me tell u that the "smooth operation" issues are buried DEEP within android... no amount of cores/gpu acc. is going to help that...

i have used my brother's SGS2 on ICS, HTC One X on ICS and even those ULTRA high end devices LAG...

if u think ICS is going to make a WORLD of difference in user experience then you will be terribly disappointed... it may have better looking UI and animations but it will still lag...

blame google for that...

he ment other vendors ;)

yes i know... Sony is ahead of others in this matter... their low end device Tapioca (ST2x/WT2x) is going to have ICS!!! and trust me its going to create a HUGE uproar by users of X10, X10 mini, X10 mini pro, X8 as they have similar hardware to Tapioca...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
The Xperia S is not always buttery smooth, but the Lumia was painfully slow on me.