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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
IRL?

Lol. Laughed a lot from your post. But can't you give us a leak? Pretty Please? ;-) :-P :$
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
same :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SnowOokami:
IRL = in real life.

:D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sharshar6000:
everyday i found a 6-7 new pages in this topic :D :D , did the ICS is soon like u say ?? :eek::eek:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Guys, no leaks now. Two days isn't worth the risk.

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Nothing special or important to discuss anymore, so we do almost off topic chat until we something on our phones, then you will see 1 page per minute. And e hope that it will be out soon.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
And no it's not coming exactly in two days.

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shoz_on4u:
Hope for the best i'm waiting if it arrives tomorrow :eek:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Besides that competition about guessing the date, what stops you from giving us the day (and hour (with timezone), maybe?)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
No.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
he doesn't know. even Sony works don't!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I see. Sorry if I was being selfish, but he said it will come in 2 days and I thought: he is teasing us. He must know something else.

Again, sorry, K900. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Its not selfishness but just being an enthusiast like all of us. Waiting is hard but hopefully we are almost there.

Soon Xperia S forum will start seeing nice development:

Stock ICS Customized by Sony (UI)

CM9

Stock ICS (like google Nexus) hopefully :D

and much more..

We have waited 3 months for this update, a few more days won't matter.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Er... not knowing?

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Oh yes Sony's gingerbread Rom has been rock solid. That's why it's had repeated updates in its short lifespan.

From .63 to 67 to 73 to 75. Yeah rock solid indeed.

For me, I can't wait to get shot of this gingerbread Rom. The home launcher just crashes too flipping much.

This hardly ever happened on gingerbread on X10.

Roll on ICS and the sooner the better.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
I honestly haven't had a single crash or force close on any of those builds, and I had them all. No rooting, nothing special, just about 100 apps.

And for everyone else, don't expect ICS before the 30th.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mpolanski:
.63, .67, .73 with bootloader unlocked and rooted. Also ca. 100 apps. Not a single stability issue.

I thought once that .73 crashes Dolphin browser, but Dolphin got uprade week later with stability fix in changelog. :-)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Same thinking. 30th is Sony style.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
Mine did crash a few times on. 73 And in. 75 I guest some times mostly while I'm using it and charging
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Javi22:
The question is...will we get root just when ICS comes or will we have to wait more and more...The the biggest reason I want ICS now is to get root, that would make my xperia another phone xD
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
Unlocked bootloader should get it faster, locked one only time shows.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
Unlocked will have root as soon as custom kernel is released or an exploit is found :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mikbe:
Corrected :p;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Efe64:
Lol¿?

Oh god.. Just.. Kill them...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
Why won't we have the folders in drawer option thats what I'm expecting as I don't Like another launchers
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Stop the damn off-topic seriously.

Sent from my LT26i
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
What should we talk about? We don't have anything more to talk. (Or at least I don't see anything). I understand you, but I see this as a way to make the time pass a LITTLE faster until ICS is released.

Or you have something to suggest?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sessel:
And for me " Orgulho de ser Português " :D

But any chance to have ics update in Portugal.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nimche:
His suggestion is to stop posting till ICS news is out, but since we are still waiting and no news we can't stop posting. I would say 75% of posts here are ICS related anyways and rest indirectly related.

At least we are here in peace and ICS talks goes on!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Because... cake.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] krabappel2548:
No ICS for the Dutch winning :p they lost. But anyway back on topic please, ICS will come every moment so be patient :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] D33KK:
Can't wait for cupcake on my xperia s
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
What's this supposed to mean? Haha
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Hahahaha Lol'ed a lot. For the other guy who originally asked, here in Brazil we say: "Because... no, we don't want"

Even being Portuguese Portugal, I love when I understand something on a language where it isn't suposed to be (in this case, Portuguese in a English forum).

Back on topic, let's play something while we wait? (It's REALLY boring, but it to pass the time)

So, what hour do you think the update will be released (forget timezone and such, just thing on the time) and what hour would be the best for you to do the update?

Starting, I think the update will be 7 PM and this is a good hour for me (I just hope the servers don't overload :p )
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mpolanski:
I'd say there are two options:

- If they are lazy, they will release it at some point of bussines day. I'm not sure where Sony mobile phone's programmers are located, but I belive they will get to work around 8 o'clock, have a coffee, donut, cigarette, then they will double check the project, and release it around noon.

- If they are smart, they will release it in the middle of the night. Around 3-4 o'clock. This way there will be very small amount of people that will upgrade at the begining, so there will be time to react if anything goes wrong. Then more and more people will start upgrades with bussiness hours. Not all together, as people will be busy at work, and some will delay that for lunch time, or till they will get home. Many of people will check update in the evening. This way they will provide theirselves some time to fix unexpected problems, and spread server's load over longer period of time.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Daniel_GB:
did i lose something here? :confused:

how can you be so sure about today release?

--------

its 3:18 AM here...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I don't recall anyone saying that it will be released today...

I suggested a game, to think what hour you think the update will be released. And he answered that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] #LOUDmouth#:
Hmm, maybe you lost a screw :p Dont worry though, i'm missing a couple of screws but i cant honestly tell the difference :o

A couple of posts up:

As we have already speculated on date now its time to speculate on time :D

/#LOUDmouth#
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Daniel_GB:
tnx man :D

Well I dont have any concern about time but the date is important...

anytime when im at the university...i can download everything for free :D

No traffic charge :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bustervic:
I'm betting on Monday night, 7pm Singapore time as I think they were the 1st to get the XS.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] joaonds:
When we have upgrade to ICS, how long it takes, on average, to have the images root?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] blag:
I think that something is coming soon.

When I am pressing check for updates with PC Companion,

I am getting an error from the server that says to try again later.

It's the first time that getting this message.

Does anyone else having the same message?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
That really, really doesn't matter.

Usually, especially for big updates, Nordic countries are first. Then followed by some other European countries, then everything else after that.

No saying when it might be, or at what time. I doubt they'll do it around a specific time for a specific reason.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bustervic:
I am only playing to the wild speculation already going on in the thread :)

I just want ICS before month end :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
I like cake! Not too sweet cake though.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dynamic503:
look at this video, ICS really fast!!! much more than GB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dG1lAVCJoxw#!

(Our XPS have the same spec as Arco HD)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
There was a video leaked a week ago, I think, showing ICS on Xperia S. The same exact thing.

Not meaning to be rude, just saying that THAT was already showed on a XS.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fajarep:
what i'm going to do next after getting ICS is...

install onavo to compress my internet data traffic.. :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
What I'm going to do next after installing ICS is…

Install Boid app
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiko_1272:
What I'm going to do next after installing ICS is…

Hopefully be able to thank Sony for releasing on time! :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arc_u:
What I'm going to do next after installing ICS is…

Resume my life lol
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chesterr:
hell yea man!! screw this!!it's about time to release this mother f**ker!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] aldredd:
When the recent Tablet S ics update was rolled out, I believe it was US, followed by some Asian regions then most other areas around 2 weeks after the initial launch.

However, I think they rolled out to countries that sell only the WiFi version before those with WiFi and 3g, so may not represent a typical phone rollout.

Edit to add:

For what it's worth, I came to the Xperia S from my Desire S running CM9 (ICS) - and I don't really think that the jump here from GB to ICS isn't going to be all that noticeable. That's not to say ICS isn't a great OS - it is, I love it and miss it (still have it on my tablet), but what what Sony appears to have done with GB on this device is replicate much of the look & feel of ICS - which is the most notable part of what ICS brings.

I don't, personally, think it will change the way you use your device! (Although, I am looking forward to getting full device encryption back!)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Or maybe they freaking test it before releasing.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] donjamal:
i'm a bit disappointed but hey, that's on me, i was optimistic about the release date :) sh!t happens :)

@mpolanski:in Sweden they don't smoke that much so that won't set the release back, though they drink a lot of coffee, that's for sure :) (supposing that software engineering is still done in Sweden)

@K900: i don't really think they are still testing the software at this point, it is already at operators to test, which means the generic one should be ready, shouldn't it? in my opinion it's more like the infrastructure and the background operations that are missing. if they are still testing, we won't see the update this week either, imo.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
They are likely done with testing, I mostly mentioned that to the guy who said they should release it at night so that they can pull it if **** starts happening, which is unacceptable for a large manufacturer.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nemer12:
pff...

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Yeah I think Sony lacks the things that u said.. But I think that ICS will be relesed this week, as I remember they released 1-2 deviced updates a week (for ICS) and the last one Active just got the ICS, next device is sXs and I repet I think that we will get the update this week ;). don't know the date exactly !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] donjamal:
hopefully yeah :) but i lower my expectations now :) i got caught up in the hype with the x10 and GB, not gonna jump into the same river with the S as well, though i almost did it :D (luckily the disappointment far not that bad)

@K900: gotcha :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nemer12:
but what is the story with the x10 .. because I don't know it ? they didn't relesed the GB update in time or ??

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I saw on the official page of Sony that they question the people " When do they think that ICS will be released for XS"
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] THeLogiC:
AFAIK they officially said they arent going to release update further 2.1 and after few months they gave a statement that they are making an update for 2.3.3 for X10(april-may 2011 i guess).

After a lot of waiting they released update at last week of July.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nemer12:
PFFF :OO .. I hope this will not happen with ICS !! I see alot of ppl that aren't interested in ICS! but as I heard ICS is made for HD resolution and it manages the CPU/ RAM better + other tweaks !

So hope that we will get it this week, I'm tired of clicking the refresh button :| every 5 mins .
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mpolanski:
I wrote about double checking whole project nit only software. Making software is only a part of whole upgrade process. Release at night gives them possibility to fix distribution problems without thousands of people complaining.

I'm not sure why it is unacceptable in your opinion. I work in the company where people's life depends on computer systems, and all changes are being made at the time of lowest load. All changes are tested dosens of times before, and still putting it on real life system is being done at 2-3 o'clock. Just in case **** will happend.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] donjamal:
and we all know **** do happen :) so there's a chance in your opinion to get the update during the nite? would be lovely :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Considering the rollout for the 2011 models went fine, I don't think there should be any problems. There will likely be even less load, since there are less devices.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SnowOokami:
I think the least we have to worry about is, data and/or pc load during the update :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] muzza1986:
I hope it's today as I am not working and have plenty of time get the update done and see what's new etc. If it's not today hen I think it will be by the very end of the month.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tsukeyomi:
I'm back.

You guys still look thirsty huh? Even more than a few days ago.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marcjuh:
Its good I'm mental ill so I can't think this much... Lol people think 230 pages and it's still not here... ' seriously waiting " :D

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Tablet S isn't Sony Mobile at all. The Tablet S is done completely by the VAIO team, and they work from the US. Sony Mobile is still mainly based in Sweden.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] aldredd:
Thanks, wasn't aware of that. Daft when you think about it, given they're both working with the same OS!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mpolanski:
It's not about what is expected. It's all about unexpected things that can happen... ;-)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
It's great that this thread has gone from predicting the day to now wondering what hour it will be released, based on what the Sony guys will be doing that day. :D

Perhaps if this thread needs another few hundred pages added to it, we can predict the SI numbers that will be done first too?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Completely different devices though. Phone vs Tablet, Qualcomm/ST-E vs nVidia Tegra, ... Don't expect them to merge soon. There's also a new tablet with a Tegra 3 that'll be released any day now.

What is weirder is that Sony is also releasing an Android-based Walkman that shares no DNA with any Sony Mobile device, and that's a shame. The Walkman has extremely good audio quality (possibly the best available right now), and has some things (Clear Stereo) the Xperia's don't have yet.

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666413393
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] JonasWa:
Today the ICS-Rollout for the Xperia Active began, do you know, if this is the last 2011 Xperia Phone? So then maybe we`re getting the Update in 2-3 days...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
lol the rollout for the Xperia Active started on Friday. And yes it is the last 2011 phone. Only the 2012 devices are left and only the Xperia S is getting the update in Q2. The others are following in Q3. So yes we are next in line.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SnowOokami:
so.. friday - monday, 3 days! so TODAY :D:D:D

*dreams on...*
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arc_u:
I don't think that we'll get ICS today :(

Sent from my LT26i using telepathy
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
No we won't.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vrnsharma:
new firmware has not updated on PTCRB so i dont think we have a chance for updated

although there is a little chance because they are not certifying all devices on PTCRB
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] JonasWa:
Oh, sorry. Read it on a couple of Techblogs today, but maybe they were just not up2date...

Well then... maybe this evening ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rinxas:
Last update (.75/.76) has not been updated on PTCRB either so don't expect to see it there when it launches...

Sent from my LT26i
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
Given the fact that UK users with a SIM-free Xperia from 2011 (excluding ray/neo v/arc s, which were done earlier) still haven't got ICS for their devices, I really do wonder how long we'll wait behind other Xperia S owners when ICS begins to roll out.

Why is Sony going so slowly through SI numbers, and how do they decide the order (looking on the Sony forums, there seems to be no real logic - my SI sits between other numbers, for example)?

Is it to lessen the demand on their servers? I've got the arc, neo, active and Live Walkman and they're all still unavailable for me.

It's frustrating because it's bad enough waiting for ICS, but it will be even worse when most of you get it and we're still saying 'nothing here'.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nemer12:
but can t u update with flashtools?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
It depends on the regional offices, and sometimes extra regional testing that has to be done. Some countries are faster with this than others.

With ICS it'll take a bit longer since they have to check all the country-specific bloatware (iPlayer etc for UK) still work after the update in all scenarios.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
I guess so, but I just decided to wait - not expecting there to be such a long gap between the rolling out of the new ICS and everyone actually getting it.

It could well be for something silly like iPlayer.

Here's a crazy idea - rather than fill the phone with stuff like this (only to have people then uninstalling them), why not simply add an app that can come up with a copy of the Sony page on Play? This could be a web app, showing the latest apps promoted by Sony - and then giving the user the chance to install them. Sony only needs to install its own apps (Bravia remote, Music Unlimited etc) which would already be known to work.

It gives Sony the chance to add newer apps (and remove older ones) far quicker and easier than putting it in an OS/firmware update. It also separates Sony from being held accountable to any problems with a third-party app. Let's say the BBC ditches support for iPlayer for some reason. Suddenly, you'll have Sony hit by people moaning that they've lost their ability to watch BBC programmes and that they only bought the phone because it had iPlayer. Believe me, there are people that would do that.

The Xperia S had an app to give people instructions on how to add the Playstation stuff (as it wasn't ready at launch) so they'd know how to do it. I mean, who decided to add iPlayer anyway? It's not as if Sony is installing a lot of stuff on the phone and given the strict rules that the BBC must follow, it's not as if the BBC could have paid anything to have it put on the phone. Why not also add the ITV Player at the same time?

I realise iPlayer was just an example and might not the reason for the delay, but it's probably one of the only apps that is different to other versions rolling out. I am sure the anti-virus SW, Wisepilot and so on are on many versions?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
They can't really. Regional offices have agreements with those companies, for each phone sold Sony gets a set amount of money. They're sort of using their phones as advertising things, just like how laptops come loaded with trial software. You can't do much about it. I suggest you just reflash to Nordic Combined or another firmware, you don't lose any data anyway.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
In the case of the BBC, they aren't allowed to be seen to favour any particular platform. There's no way the BBC is paying to have its iPlayer app included.

Now if it was made by BBC Worldwide and an app was featuring on a phone outside of the UK, it might be different. I am just confused as to why it's loaded on to UK models (at least the 2011 models as I can't remember if it came on the Xperia S) at all. Even its app position on the home screen seemed totally random, as if it had been slipped on by mistake/on the sly. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Off-Topic again.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 3Shirts:
Ironically it was more on-topic than your reply
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Efe64:
The new admin?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] turkification:
Hey guys,

For the peeps who can't wait for MIUI on the Xperia S. The home launcher is out for 2.3 devices.

It's not 100% MIUI, still better than nothing!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.miui.mihome2&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5taXVpLm1paG9tZTIiXQ..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
lmao
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ssj_jaypee:
What's MIUI?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kartobot:
It is horrible. The layout is broken and it is not optimized for HD screens
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] masi0:
please keep up to the topic of this thread as this now its so CRAP!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] turkification:
http://miuiandroid.com/community/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
my words. and i lol'd hahahahahaa :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
Half of this thread is off topic! People are bored and trying to kill time, however it wasn't entirely off topic as there's got to be a reason that some people are made to wait longer for updates than others.

The delay for UK users is for generic/SIM-free models, so there's not even a case of network operators getting their fingers into the pie and causing delays. In fact, with the Xperia S so far, people who had network branded versions got the updates quicker!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xgr:
New information from Sony... They won't release the update until this thread reaches 3000 entrys... :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Post 70 pages of off topic!!!!!!!!!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
I have new chalange.

Sony MIGHT release the update to ICS at midnight, if nobody writes a single post till then.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
owned
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Why you did that? :(

I want ICS ASAP
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
The only thing you can do is wait and stop whining or trying to figure out when it'll be released. It'll come when it comes.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] necrohiero:
Patiently waiting..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Because it's not a challenge at all.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
That was only funny test. We already knew the outcome of it.:) But just proves my point, nobody would keep quiet. Unless thread is closed.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] frikakwa:
You sound like my girlfriend!! :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I just started to be impatient...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Who is we? You're not keeping quiet aswell.

half of the thread here's obv like: OMGWTF WHERES ICS ME WANNA HAVE IT ASAP WTFBBQ???

Lmao.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SnowOokami:
becoming impatient won't change anything at all :D