yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Because they aren't concerned with us getting updates. They just work on the next phone and get around to us if they feel like it.

Sent from my Rizzy Rezound
[HTC Rezound] THE-COPS:
I'm betting it has something to do with Verizon ,not htc. Id blame Verizon for slowing down any update or rom upgrade. Simply because Verizon is testing it to find all the software bugs and tricks embedded in the ROM. And they are determining what bloatware and/or cripplrware they want to stuff in it before its release. Thats why the date keeps getting pushed ahead. Srnd it back to htc devs after vzw is done. Htc tweaks it more, vzw wants to do more to it...and back to htc yet again... :/
[HTC Rezound] mrslax:
The alliance is a joke.

More marketing bs. Great phone though:)
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I'm still sticking to the summer, but yea, rooting is the way to go.
[HTC Rezound] Trooper Thorn:
Even sadder ICS news

http://phandroid.com/2012/03/06/htc-sensation-line-to-get-android-4-0-but-only-sense-3-6/

I think if this is the case with the Rezound rooting will be a must.
[HTC Rezound] a-jive:
Thank goodness for the leaks. They have certainly gotten to the point of being solid and give me most of what I want out of the update. But it doesn't change the fact that Android/Sense 4.0 is ready and working on other phones and they clearly don't have much respect for their previous promises or customers.

I'm sure VZW gets partial blame here, but they are all hurting their reputations together. The extra wait better result in us getting Sense 4! If we just get a bloated official 3.6 I say we get the pitchforks!
[HTC Rezound] jm700wx:
Funny, gingerbread with sense 3.5 looks and acts basically like ics with sense 3.6. I tried Joel's sense 4.0 rom and it was pretty cool. This is why we root folks. Never trust the carrier or manufacturers. Stick with the developers!
[HTC Rezound] ssoares01:
I'm sure VZW puts HTC through hell with the roms for VZW phones. Definately sucks, but IMO, the longer its put off the more likely we are to get sense 4.0
[HTC Rezound] racinwarrior:
welcome to retail. HTC/Verizon already has your money. They sold you a phone with whatever software is had on it at the time. They aren't obgliated to update it at all. they do so in order to keep customers happy. its not just HTC either, motorola, samsung, LG, company x; all the same with software updates. Their policy is update the newest first then work their way back. it cost money to develop updates for every single phone model, thats just the way it is. I have learned to not worr or wait for official updates and just use what this great development community has provided to us....4 months early.

the ICS ROMS out right now are honestly magical. Try them out.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
I predict that we won't see anything until the "one" is out for at least a month and the buying of that device begins slowing.

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
I've been following these threads but refraining from posting in them ;).

I understand your point, however, Android 4.0 was released/announced just prior to the release of the Rezound. If potential customers of the Rezound knew they would not be updated for close to another year (likely when Android 5.0 will be out) I'm sure that would've swayed many buyers.

I myself as well as most of us users on here aren't too hurt about this thanks to our awesome Devs but it sucks to know a lot of people dropped some nice coin for phone that HTC/Verizon have obviously not held their end of the deal of "Will receive ICS in early 2012". This was stated in red lettering on the spec list of the Rezound on the Verizon website.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I don't really agree & I'm not trying to argue at all.

My point is that the average VZ customer could care less about updates to a phone that basically worked just fine out of the box.

I am the head of our corporate cell phone account with almost 200 phones & if you said "ICS update" to any of our users you would be met with a blank stare as they wouldn't have the first clue what you where talking about. As long as they can turn on their phones & it functions as it's supposed to, they are perfectly happy with it.
[HTC Rezound] racinwarrior:
you are def right and i agree. it sucks that consumers are fed lies to sell products. honestly though you have to think of it as a numbers game for VZW.

How many people bought the rezound? 1 million (for ease of math)

How many of those people actually care what OS their phone has? maybe 10%?

of that 100000, how many really know the advantages of ICS vs GB? maybe another 10%?

i mean its a small piece of the VZW pie when you think about it.

plus when the next big HTC phone hits the shelves for sale VZW can advertise is as the "first 4.0 HTC device"
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
it will be summer before we see this. all i want ice cream for is so the devs can finally get us aosp.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
That is exactly the point I was making.

It is only posters to sites like this who really care about things like ICS updates & we are such a tiny fraction of Verizons 100 million customers. If every single XDA poster switched to Sprint tomorrow, VZ wouldn't even notice the hit........
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
This isn't anything new. The HTC Droid Eris was stuck on Android 1.5 forever. I'm pretty sure Android 2.2 Froyo was out already by the time the Droid Eris got its official Android 2.1 update. Based on the past, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the official release of Jelly Bean sometime before we get the official ICS update for the Rezound. I was also fully prepared for the possibility that we'd have an AOSP port working before we get the official ICS update from Verizon. The Droid Eris already has a mostly working AOSP ICS port and they haven't had an official update since Android 2.1 to base anything off of, so I know its possible with the right amount of time and patience.

Anyways, going forward its very possible we are only going to have AOSP ports for the Rezound, because it is entirely possible at this point that ICS will be the last officially supported version of Android for this phone.
[HTC Rezound] chupajr:
Hehe. Hehehe. Yeah, I remember that happening too. That was cute. :)

But yeah, honestly, they didn't attach any teeth to this agreement so there's no incentive for any of the manufacturers to honor it.
[HTC Rezound] Piaband:
If it makes anyone feel better, my Nexus S 4G on sprint still doesnt have the official ICS update.

Talk about a real ripoff...That phone is marketed as getting the updates FAST. lol. nice screw job google/sprint.

I'm coming to the Rezound soon. I'm done putting my eggs in any basket that has to do with an official update from google. Hate to say it, but if you want fast updates, go with Apple.
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
:eek: Blasphemy! LOL

I thought all the Nexus S phones were pushed the update as well. Wow that is inexcusable.
[HTC Rezound] phio:
6 months after the phone was released is definitely not something to cry about. The only people that really care about it are the same ones that are already running it on their phones.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I'm pretty fed up with the carriers and the way they handle business, I wish Google could just be a carrier themselves of a new generation.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
True enough. It serves to placate anxious customers, and that's about it.
[HTC Rezound] surfer2.3:
I'm so delighted with my stock Rezy I have not yet reached the 'gotta root and flash' threshold yet. Same deal with my Dinc. That was certainly not the case with my Apache and Touch.
[HTC Rezound] kevinlovesrice:
HTC.....thanks for making an amazing phone and releasing ICS in MAY when the sensation devices are already getting it........
[HTC Rezound] Afro Samurai:
Same here bro, I rooted and flashed my 3d the same day I got it. Still have yet to with my Rezy too.
[HTC Rezound] stkiswr:
Hmmm, I have had nice, well working aosp ics on my last 3 phones since Oct/early Nov of last year. I miss a few features but other than my nexus battery life still isn't there. I would rather wait til the fix everything before they release it for this phone. Gingerbread runs so damn nice for me I am not interested in doing anything until an official drops. I can wait.

My wife's sprint galaxy s2 is the same way. No hurry here. Get it right! I'm patient. My phone is NICE
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Considering the amount of money we spend on high end phones, we should be getting high end service, why make a dual core HD phone on the largest and most expensive mobile network then leave it with already outdated software? It's just dumb. HTC has been starting to get in my bad side, but unless u want a crappy low end, small screen, no LTE having iPhone, there is no other choice really...
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
The leaked stock ICS Rezound update rom that was on Android Police for stock phones works great on my phone and the bootloader is still locked.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Great to hear! Do you use Mobile Hotspot? Bluetooth A2DP? Having issues with both on GB right now.
[HTC Rezound] stkiswr:
I'm on the ics leak too and after a little setting up it is very nice. I had ics on 2 previous phones and am glad to be back. Hoping battery life is decent. W my extended on ginger bread it was great.
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
Thank you new firmware! Spent all day on 3G just to see how it would hold up. Passed the test for me :D

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] IAmPears:
dang was looking forward to official ICS. HTC is leaving us hanging here
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
This latest leak shows us how close they are. We may get the OTA sooner than you expect

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
im still thinking a late spring/ early summer release.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Marcismo55, Do you have the extended battery?
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
Nope....stock 3.7. Sorry I didn't get the screen on time. Phone died shortly after

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
You ought to try this new offical ICS leak, it ruins great on my stock Rezound.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] jscarano:
You meant runs great right? lol
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
Yes,it runs great.
[HTC Rezound] sorullo_xgrx:
No bugs at all?, or laggs, blue flicker screen, no fcs... Can't wait to flash this though
[HTC Rezound] paulhoop:
lol, "official" leak.....
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
we still thinking a summer release of the official OTA?
[HTC Rezound] mike.s:
May Fifty-third.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
i just hope it's "soon".. we need the source for a number of things.
[HTC Rezound] SpyderWeiss:
How'd you know my birthday? :)
[HTC Rezound] hgoldner:
My bet is that it drops before April 30th.
[HTC Rezound] SpyderWeiss:
Recent reports say it may be coming Friday.

http://androidcommunity.com/verizon...axx-could-get-ics-updates-next-week-20120330/
[HTC Rezound] kujayhawks77:
..Do people read through threads or just the last posting..
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
It has to be the last page, because it seems like 95% of the people say the same stuff, ask the same questions.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Posters have been *****ing about lack of upgrades in a timely fashion on every single smart phone I have ever owned all the way back to the VZ xv6700.

I'm not sure why anybody thinks this one would be any different.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
Agreed!

10char
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
These posts crack me up, what exactly are you expecting your device to do on ICS that it doesn't do just fine right now with it's "obsolete outdated software" ??
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
Well once we get it, we'll have something else to ***** about..... That's what I'm looking forward to.

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] hrbib21:
My Rezound arrives tomorrow. Within moments of removing the phone from the box and after a few parting words for my Incredible, I will commence whining about ICS. Look, it's all about fitting in here.
[HTC Rezound] godsmacked4653:
But once we get the new software, we'll immediately have S-Off, working AOSP, and we might cure world hunger!

Although I don't really care about that last thing.
[HTC Rezound] SpyderWeiss:
Thanks for making my day with that comment :)

---------- Post added at 09:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 AM ----------

Also, I've got co-workers with RAZR's, and they just got their updates last night, so looks like Friday will be the day for the official rollout.
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
What RAZR got their ICS update?
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
We have at least a half dozen RAZR's on our corporate account, none of them has gotten an ICS update.
[HTC Rezound] Afro Samurai:
+1, No one has confirmed an update in the Razr threads here on xda. So I'm not holding my breath for something on Friday.
[HTC Rezound] xceebeex:
Proof of this? I just peeked over in the RAZR forums and I didn't see anything there. Plus on top of that it looks like it is just going to be a bug fix for them, not ICS.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I would DEFINITELY know about it if the RAZR had gotten an ICS update.

I am the head of our corporate cell acount & 99% of our 170 users know absolutely NOTHING about cell phones. If they had gotten an ICS update, I would have gotten calls all morning from people wondering "what happened to my phone??"

I remember clearly when that happened with the DroidX & the update from Froyo to GB. Not only did a lot of our users not like the change, it messed up a lot of their phones & I had to straighten them all out.
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
The latest news on the Razr is they will be soak testing a GB patch soon...
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
the razr got an update today but it was not ics, it was bug fixes.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
Engadget says it's still a go for today..... I've got nothing yet. Anyone else?

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
well engadget is wrong, were not getting ics today or probably anytime soon. you just need to be patient.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
Who says I wasn't being patient. Just asking a question on the topic. My phone works like a chapm just the way it is.
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
Nothing here in South Carolina yet,not holding my breath. :D
[HTC Rezound] starsie:
Major BS! I've got a Razr and THERE WAS NO ICS (or any other) update for it!!! Just rechecked - NOTHING!!!
[HTC Rezound] rckymtntim:
Could these 'bug fixes' be a prep for an ICS update?
[HTC Rezound] starsie:
Once again - BS!!! I repeat - Razr got NO UPDATES OF ANY KIND in April 2012!!! Stop acting like scandalous teens, you are adults with jobs damn it....
[HTC Rezound] CharliesTheMan:
Then what is everyone to do? Actually work?

Pfft... That's crazy
[HTC Rezound] starsie:
:D:D:D:D:D
[HTC Rezound] :
I love my Rezound. And there are a lot of things I can do with my android that you can't do with an iPhone....but this update process and support is absolute ****. Thankfully we have a great developer community. One is basically SOL if they buy an Android with no developer community. Also thankfully htc lets us unlock this device or we would never see sense 4.

Android 4.0 came out about 6 months ago. About 20% of devices have been updated.

Ios 5 also came out about 6 months ago. About 90% of their devices have been updated.

sent from my Rezound
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
20% I only know of like 5 or 6 devises that have "officially" recieved ics. That being transformer prime,galexy nexus,nexus s,xoom WiFi, and HTC one series
[HTC Rezound] jperiod:
Has anyone actually authenticated the supposed Best Buy "leaked info"? For all we know it could have been a hoax by some BB employee? I haven't seen anything from any other independent source that confirms this, so this may be BS.

Jperiod
[HTC Rezound] :
Yea you are right. Its probably more like 5%. Thanks for nothing Google and Android manufacturers lol.

sent from my Rezound
[HTC Rezound] trunzoc:
So what you are saying is that 6 devices that actually have official ICS are 20% of All android devices ever made?

Or is it that apple updated 3 devices?

I'm confused. It seems to me like you are comparing a single manufacturer updating the 4 devices they have ever made (apple) to dozens of manufactures updating the hundreds of devices they've made (android).

Seems to me like a single company designing a single device around a single OS with built in backwards compatability is a whole lot easier to upgrade than a single company that makes an OS that other companies then use to run phone that are completely unrelated to the OS manufacturer.

I REALLY hate when people compare apple and android in terms of fragmentation.

Glad the powers that be never talked about how awesome apple was because all 5 macs have the same OS version where as the 5642561742141746256498345376455462446354673546546734484324627632 different PC makers/models all have different versions of windows.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
not sure why this is still being discussed? were NOT getting any OTA today and i suspect it will be awhile yet before we do.
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
Gives people something to talk about, why do you care?
[HTC Rezound] HVAC Wars:
Lol
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
You know it's still today right?

It could start rolling out tonight at 11:59pm, it's still today.
[HTC Rezound] Nanashi1231:
Had a feeling it wasn't coming, but oh well. I'll probably give it another week or two, then root and get 4.04 on my own. Sometimes if you want something done right, you've got to do it yourself.
[HTC Rezound] Afro Samurai:
I hear you, if nothing happens by Monday I'm jumping off the deep end and putting the leak on, rooting and getting in the game.
[HTC Rezound] surfer2.3:
It's pretty amazing.

I'm looking forward to the 4.0 push.

Ironically, my stock and locked phone works wonderfully just as it is. Since my primary use for my phone, other than the rare voice call...and texting...are my apps. And I have little doubt that my apps will NOT be more functional in their current iteration with 4.0. GUI...yes. App functionality, maybe once the app developers modify their code to take advantage of any new hooks.

It's all good either way.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Really no reason to wait until Monday, ICS isn't coming then either........
[HTC Rezound] Afro Samurai:
Monday is my off day. I'll have more time to play with things and look for help if I get stuck.

Sent from the HTC Rezound of Akuma
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
agreed!
[HTC Rezound] CharliesTheMan:
I'd be glad to help if you need anything. I put a guide together and tried to cover everything. Even if you don't use it for the install it might be good if you want to read it ahead of time to understand what the processes are doing.

http://www.teambamf.net/index.php/topic/3528-guide-to-install-ics-ruu-and-firmware-windows/
[HTC Rezound] Hawk600:
Well, today suppose to be the official release day but so far I see nothing on my wife's phone.

Tried rebooting it but still nothing! :confused:
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Its actually 4%. Thw difference between ios and android

is that apple controls ios and Google only controls the base code. It still has to go through oems that have 20 different phones to worry about.

So you get info that engadget doesn't? If you have sources, please share, otherwise

STFU!
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
well do you see an ota today? id call engadget & best buy "full of it".

and no, thank you, i think ill continue to tell the cold hard truth instead of spreading "rumors".
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Engadget was just reporting on the leaked best buy photo that I saw. Hardly two sources
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
Eaaaaaaaasy guys.

The OTA will come when it comes. In the meantine, we have some bad @$$ devs to take care of us!
[HTC Rezound] nbhnohome:
S-OFF this and you'll never have to worry about OS update . (My old Vibrant is flying on ICS even though it's never tasted Official Gingerbread.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Exactly we don't need no stinking official roms
[HTC Rezound] mike.s:
1) The word is "supposed" (past participle, past tense of suppose, which is a verb).

2) Where/when did HTC announce that ICS would be released today, which is the only thing which would make it "official," in any sense of the word?
[HTC Rezound] werdna87:
Personally, I think next Friday but I know for a fact we aren't getting it until atleast Monday
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
Lol, that has to be the most gangsta example of a grammar Nazi I've ever seen.

Well done...

Lmao
[HTC Rezound] Serinety:
You know "for a fact" huh... Mind revealing that fact you put so much faith into?
[HTC Rezound] jdfrye:
Becuase of untimly updates (been 6 months since ICS release) that companies promised (The Android Alliance) they would do I also belive this will happen:

"Google Will Abandon Android"

http://www.businessinsider.com/google-will-abandon-android-2012-4
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I had read that article a few days back, I can't see Google letting Android go, but if they stop gaining ad revenue from it, it could happen.
[HTC Rezound] krelvinaz:
Great unrelated post about the topic.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
honestly it wouldn't shock me if they let android go or sold it off. id be curious as to who would buy it? if steve jobs were still alive i could see apple buying it up and burying it because of the deep hatred he had for the platform.
[HTC Rezound] demmo86rt:
That article is pure speculation and a load of crap. Google has no reason to abandon Android, their primary goal is not to sell phones (or tablets), not directly anyway. Their goal is to collect data and sell ad space. They develop Android and provide it to anyone who wants it in order to advance this goal.
[HTC Rezound] :
Great article. Very incitful. I do think it has gotten out of control and Google will try to focus on something they can control. Letting manufacturers do what ever they want with software and updates is shamefull. These manufacturers have sullied Android. I do like HTC though.

Also Android doesn't need people to use Android to make money, they just need people to use their products on the internet like google search and chrome.

sent from my Rezound
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
+ 1

Google will make out fine with search and chrome.
[HTC Rezound] starsie:
+1 to that. Kick ass!!!
[HTC Rezound] DaMaDo:
If they do let Android go, I'd never trust the longevity of another google product again. I think they will fix things instead of selling it off though.

Although they've started and stopped so many services i'm starting to think the company has ADD.
[HTC Rezound] stkiswr:
Lol if they let android go I will be forced to buy an iPhone...**** I hate iPhones... windows mobile anyone
[HTC Rezound] :
Windows and Apple both have good phones. I prefer Android OS over both but w7 and iOS aren't horrible. IOS is pretty limited though.

sent from my Rezound
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
As much as I don't like Apple and MS, if Android disappeared I'd go with an iPhone over a W7 phone any day.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
Not only would I not buy a Windows phone, I wouldn't buy any Windows products.

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] werdna87:
I have my inside sources... I had a rezound since last Aug for example.
[HTC Rezound] 86shelby:
This gets my vote for Worst. Thread. Ever.
[HTC Rezound] ericsignals:
Did your sources say the kernel was fixed?

Would suck if everyone is waiting for the ota and its same as last leak ruu...seems a lot of people have issues with it, the consensus is the kernel is at max all the time which causes heat and battery issues.
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
I have the Official Rezound ICS leak on my phone (stock) and have had NO battery or heat issues

since I flashed it the first week in March. In fact I have better battery life now than I did on Gingerbread. The phone works a lot better on the ICS RUU than it did on Gingerbread. :)
[HTC Rezound] illcat2000:
From what I'm hearing the OTA will be very similar to what the leak already is with bug fixes I can't wait but I know it will be a while.
[HTC Rezound] hceuterpe:
You know what I think? I think you didn't read this article at all. He's talking about Android as a brand. Not the platform. Sheesh, dude. :rolleyes: