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[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] 80slovechild:
So I tried and tried and tried again to get superoneclick to recognise my phone last night and failed. It hung after starting ADB connection. Would not continue no matter what I tried. Anyone encountered this problem or even tried superoneclick using Ubuntu?

I have looked for a script to run to achieve root but can't find one, as I can use ADB manually. Very frustrating.

Can't even update firmware with Sammy software cos it needs windows
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] 80slovechild:
A couple of users report success with z4root. Not working here.

I'll keep searching.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] KieranFoot:
Use ClockworkMod and upd_1.zip, can all be done on your phone. No need for a pc :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
Aint worling on froyo

Willill it

I say use odin to flash GB

Then u can roo
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] 80slovechild:
odin is for windows only i believe, which i dont have, dagnabbit!

i am looking at heimdall although it is not supported and nobody seems to have tried it. atleast not from my quick searching. ill continue to look.

so if i cant root 2.2.1 with linux then i should look at updating firmware to 2.3 and then i can root with standard recovery and a zip update?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
download windows 8 consumer preview

its free -_-
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] 80slovechild:
sounds fun. ill try it
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sharpz811:
Hey has anyone tried out the jokawildrom_v1 yet? I'm still tryna figure out which is better out of the 3 that i tried. darkforest 3.1, gb mixer play plus, or this one jokawildrom. which one is better?:)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Defy39:
Personally of the three i found the darkforest rom much more quicker. :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Kraizk:
I am looking to learn to develop for this phone. After so many people have left we are in desperate need.

I have experience coding on PC and light experience on WINMO 6....

I am reaching out to the community for resources on how to learn to develop for the Vivid. Any Direction will be appreciated.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] htcvividnoob:
I would also be willing to learn to develop for this phone. I'm a computer science student at MIT and have coding experience, but have not done anything related to Android so I'm not sure where to begin.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] zombie.raised:
You can try this kitchen. It kind of works if you start from custom Rom as base.

At least gives you idea of what you have to do. You can than develop more depending on how good ur Unix or scripting skil are

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633246
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] htcvividnoob:
Since the Vivid is not listed as one of the compatible devices, do we need to do this? I saw the Rezound on there is why I am asking
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] uberamd:
I too am going to give it a stab. I have experience working with Cyanogenmod as well as a ton of C/C++/Unix/Scripting/Driver experience. Lets see what we can make.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] zombie.raised:
I used it and there is nothing device specific stuff that should matter
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Wild Child:
No dont grab some one elses...incorrect....Grab the kitchen from dsixda grab an ruu run it till it opens to first screen dont install or go any further...goto search,search your c drive for rom.zip....copy this file to somewhere else on your computer and your started....

WC
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Mad Medik:
I would appreciate any suggestions for resources too. I have not programmed in many years but I figure, what the hell, might as well give it a go.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ghostdogg:
True platform development resources are slim right now...

Read this website http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/index.html for a decent but outdated overview of platform development and bring-up.

Check this post from Cyanogen http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6243873

At the bare minimum do what WC said but I don't recommend you use someone else's custom ROM as your base for a multitude of reasons. If for no other reason, you'll inherit any flaws they may have unknowingly introduced and you won't understand the changes they implemented to make the improvements they made.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
I'm a little rusty, but my team and I develop on the HTC Dream/Magic. I own about 6 devices right now and just gave away 3 others to a developer on my team. It's kind of funny, even though I've owned all these devices, I've never really developed on any of them since there's always so many other people already doing so.

But since everyone left and there's no competition right now, I think I might start developing again, I just need to know what you guys want and I'll see what I can do. :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] SnoopHogg:
I'd love to see some new guys giving it a try. I wish I could invest the time and had the knowledge to do it myself.

I think most are just looking for a good solid ICS rom, with Tethering working... anything else would pretty much be a bonus. I think "MOST" would be appreciative of pretty much anything at this point :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] zombie.raised:
That was dsixda kitchen , I think that is pretty good and now quite a few people use it even now.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
He was making a point to not use someone's custom rom
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] zombie.raised:
If that's the case, than from my experience it is a bit harder for someone with no knowledge to start with stock ROM. Out of the box the kitchen did not work very well with any stock ROM. It was easier to tweak a custom rom because the DEV had fixed the issues which I don't know if every one can solve. e.g some may just struggle to get system.img to work in this kitchen , again that can be trivial for some to fix and some noob's may find it hard.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
It's all trial and error my friend. Later tonight when class is over I'll try to create a rom from the Telstra 3.5 RUU. I tried the ICS stock rom, but I wasn't able to deodex about 50 or so files. Hopefully this time around the process will go smoother.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Wild Child:
Thats not learning then,thats taking someone elses work,start as everyone else did,everything is out there to be found@reading...we all have to learn somehow,but the way your saying isnt the correct way to learn...its called kanging,then tweaking something here and there and calling it your own creation....truely learn something and start from scratch,we all did,so why would you expect it should be easier for you?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
As far as resources go, download the kitchen, and DO NOT use it, rather analyze how it works. Look over the scripts and see why it does what it does, if you don't understand something, google it.

That'll help some of the beginners here.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Wild Child:
We all are having issue with deodexing the ics,att has **** all over the place....this is why i suggested a lower build as per your inquiry...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ghostdogg:
I wouldn't consider that development and the OP asked for development advice. My previous post provides ample information to "do it the right way", team that with extracting your source from RUUs and you've just become a real dev. You will possess the necessary knowledge and tools to create your own ROM.

Then after you create your ROM if you still have problems that another dev has resolved you can respectfully contact that dev for guidance on what they did to resolve it.

That's the way I would want someone to use my work anyway.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ghostdogg:
Read this website http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/index.html for a decent but outdated overview of platform development and bring-up.

Check this post from Cyanogen http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6243873

Use the aforementioned kitchen to extract "stock" carrier base ROMS if you choose not to build from source.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Kraizk:
I appreciate all the advice, I have a lot of reading up to do (I expected it). As a note I would NEVER take someone else's work. It is just wrong and leads to so many conflicts down the line.

Additional advice and resources is still appreciated.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
Haha once you get the hang of file pushing, kanging, and porting which are the basic essential noob skills, then you move on to compiling roms and kernels from source and maybe evening creating your own repo. You could just skip straight to it if you'd like, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what you're doing. Although considered noob skills, they become useful at times.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
I totally agree, but to reproduce all the work that others do is a waste of time.

I find it funny that people don't just ask permission and then give credit. It's such a simple concept.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jh64dsb877r:
I agree with that sentiment.

A lot of the work falls under an open source license. So, while being polite, asking permission, understanding the software licensing terms and being aware of anything that's not open source, there's no reason not to use all the great work that's already released.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
Exactly. :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
+1 agree. No use in reinventing the wheel. I'm going to start reading tonight as well to see if I am able to add anything to the cause. This is a good idea... I would like to offer a suggestion. You should give credit and ask permission to whatever you want to start with and from that point on make it a 100% community rom that not one singular person can take credit for. Lets ALL work together.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
I think development could be achieved much faster if people would just upload and send little patches to fix things for sense roms (since they can't be open source) and make commits on github for AOSP and source based roms.

Since people hide their sources and try to do everything themselves, it ruins the opportunity for new developers to see how things work and help out.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
I was just spitballing. I like that idea!

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We have PG's Rum Float to start with. Lets get busy adding to it and building patches. I dunno if we need to ask first or not. But it never hurts to ask.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
If you are just making patches then no, you dont have to ask because that is your own work.

If you are making patches, adding them to the rom, and releasing it as a whole, then yes, you must ask because the base rom is his work.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
Sounds good. What do others think of this idea?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] zombie.raised:
I agree that starting with a custom ROM is kanging, but it was not meant to publish it but more ***practical*** way of getting a noob started that's all.

Even Dev take stuff which is done for other threads so what's the difference as long you give necessary credits or ask for permission. I did not want to debate that.

Most of the Dev's here spent a lot of time answering same question and if you look at the kitchen thread it is same. At least my view was if you start with a custom ROM a beginner would have less trouble and so he would post less question. Those who are better could always start from scratch in no way I meant using some one else ROM to publish a new ROM.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
I think that variety with roms is the most important thing. Comparing roms should be like comparing fruit. An apple and an orange look totally different and have very unique flavors, yet they are both still fruit. Stock, MIUI, and CyanogenMod all look totally different and have very unique features, yet they are all still Android.

It makes no sense to have a dozen stock roms that are (for the most part) the same. It's like having a dozen bananas, in then end your choice won't make that much of a difference because they're all (for the most part) the same in the first place... They're just a bunch of freaking bananas.

The Point I'm trying to make is that if you want to be successful, be unique and don't just release a "slightly better" rom, release something new and fresh.

EDIT: Rereading this I realize that this may sound contradictive, but I'm on my phone and typing takes forever (compared to a full size keyboard). Sorry if it doesn't make sense.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
I got sick today, so my weekend plans are shot. I'm going to start reading now and hopefully I can start playing around this weekend... Thanks to all for the links.

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I just read through these posts again and I want to make sure I understand. So the aforementioned kitchen can be used for the stock RUU or a custom Rom, Right? I hope that didn't sound stupid...

NM I read through more of the kitchen thread and got my answer
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pstevep:
I will post this as a warning. Because this is where so many new devs/chefs get in trouble.

Never take someone else's rom to use as base or anything with out their permission. I know to some that should go with out saying, but with some of the talk that I have seen in this thread, it needs to be stated.

Particularly in regards to pg currently. With the current drama that unfolded earlier, you may want to leave him alone for a bit.

Your best bet to learn, is to start with a ruu and work your way up. Trust me. If you heed this warning, it will make all our lives easier.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
Understood. So do we need to start with BrandonBaskin to ask if we are able to utilize his leak, then move on from there?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pstevep:
If it were me. Yes.

Just make sure you do your research so you don't brick things.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
+1 I agree and that was kind of what I was trying to get at with my last post.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] :
Just a quick input here...WE are having issues with the ics as its a new format and a lot of things have been changed, I would suggest grabbing a lower version (3.0,3.5) if your looking to "learn", will make it easier on you....just my opinion...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
Just to be clear, I know that BC came out with a beats MOD that worked for anyone's sense 3.5 Rom. It was a stand alone item that worked on multiple dev ROM's. I am going to assume that there are going to be multiple ROM's that have ICS and sense 3.6 in the coming months. So to that end, wouldn't it be ok to create add ons and patches that are for all sense 3.6 Roms, regardless of how it is created? It would not be a new ROM based on anything, it would be say a "tether patch" or an "Amaze Camera" add on that would work with all sense 3.6 ROM's. I hope this makes sense. Is this possible/an acceptable practice? I recently came from ios, so I'm just trying to gain a full understanding. I have rooted multiple devices for multiple friends, but this is my first attempt at anything outside of ios rather than using others work.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
Yeah, you could do that, many people do just focus on flashable add-ons. I also came from iOS a few years back, so I know how confusing it can be.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dragonsoul84:
My wife uses the inspire 4g with an aosp rom that I installed from existz over in the inspire/desire HD threads. I think the aosp is awesome, and would be welcomed, if there is anyone who might know how to cook up an aosp rom for the vivid. Sucks to lose such talented devs such as WC and PG. I would love to try my hand, but unfortunately my experience goes only as far as HTML, and the small amount of Java I have taught myself on my way to learning android app dev. Welcome to any new devs, and we'll miss the ones who go. Door will always be open WC and PG. Btw I flashed the ics stock and it was easy with supplied instructions and I'm loving my phone more, much quicker.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] chall80:
I downloaded the kitchen...I have the RUU...time to get dirty...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Mad Medik:
Resources

Here is what I have come across so far. If we can move forward with a supportive, non-critical, "team" attitude then maybe we can all learn a little and reap the benefits as we go. But this will only work if people can let go of the (natural) need for personal recognition. And before I get flamed, I hope the more knowledgeable developers don't take offence to that. Many are deserving of recognition; I am just saying for this particular group of, shall we say, "noobish" developers, if we are possessive, this will quickly fragment and stall. If people can let go of ownership, then who knows?

I've started with the HTCDEV Resources Page which has a basic overview and links to the developer kits and other resources. I have just finished installing the SDK and on their recommendation, have gone with the Eclipse IDE for Java developers. I'm new to Java, so the learning curve is going to be steep but hey, it was about time for a new hobby...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
+1, but I don't think that it should be limited to noob developers. Some of these novice developers on XDA really need to humble themselves also.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
+1 I'm in and agree.

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Talk about noob... I already screwed the pooch on installing cygwin because my lappy uses crappy windows vista. I'm going to have to start over on my windows 7 box, lol.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] johnson8cyl:
I don't even own a vivid but I wish you all the best of luck. Intriguing conversation. Good to see people coming together to try things out. I wish I could learn all this but with no computer experience at all it's a deep sea of information.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
If you want to get started developing, I really would not suggest using Windows at all. Use linux.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
Are you suggesting a virtual machine or a dedicated box? I have never used Linux before. I did use some Java based linux thing to mess with some iPhone themes. I figured this would work the same way...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pstevep:
For sense roms I do mostly in windows. For kernel work or cyanogen based things I have a virtualbox with ubuntu on it.

I would love to have a full Linux machine, but my wife has to use the computer too and won't use Linux..
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Kraizk:
I already love where this is going. unfortunately after doing reading I am in over my head as I am busy the next 5 weeks completing college. I am all for a collaborative effort and would love to try and keep tabs on where a team development is going and hopefully jump in full effort after I wrap up my final class.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
I do have a spare lappy with a broken screen. I could use an extra monitor and throw Linux on it... I dunno, ill give it some thought. Does a Linux OS install like a windows OS?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Mad Medik:
I just finished making our home desktop into a dual boot win 7 and linux so I can start learning without disrupting things for the family. To each his own but after a day of googling, I went with linuxmint KDE. It is based on Ubuntu. (they also have a debian based version and another xdce or something like that). They have a live DVD that you can download in a 1.5 GB ISO. If you like it, then you can install right from the ISO.

I was very impressed how easily the install went. Network was connected, network print server and network storage were detected and running. For someone with zero linux background, I found it to be a very user friendly interface.

MM

Sent from the Matrix
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] johnson8cyl:
From what I understand you can grab a copy of Linux from their site or any version you want then burn it on a cd with a program like image burn then install assembly as you would any os. Haven't done it myself but you can read about it on Linux site
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] johnson8cyl:
To whom it may concern. With those who want to keep windows as well might I suggest reading up on the process to make your pc dual boot? You can back everything up and repartition your hard drive leaving space for Linux to run and space to restore windows too. Marriage is about compromise......... Right?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] johnson8cyl:
@ mad medik. Read right over your post. Sorry. Mind sharing links for the rest of us so we can have the process here in this thread?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
I've was playing around with dsixda's kitchen today, with cygwin on win 7, just to see how it worked. I managed to use the port Rom function, using the ics ruu we have porting the endeavor ruu. I managed to finally get the whole way through with no errors and got a build and boot.IMG. boot.IMG flashed ok but something was screwed up in updater-script I think I screwed something with the .zip up when editing the script to format/mount ext4..wouldn't flash. I've seen the error in recovery before... By no means do I think it would have booted..I'm sure there's a ton of leg work after that that's completely over my head.. but it was still cool seeing how the kitchen worked and figuring out the stupid things I was doing that would make it not work. I'll certainly continue playing.. don't know how up to date the kitchen is for ics though.. I know he hasn't been updating it frequently. Main point I'm trying to make is this - get the tools, read the posts, use smart searching techniques. There is a TON of information out there just waiting to be absorbed by our tiny minds
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Infinimint:
Hahaha you do NOT need another computer, nor do you need a seperate partition.

Go download the latest version of Ubuntu and burn the ISO to a cd or just extract it using 7zip or whatever. Now simply open up either the cd or the extracted folder and run the WUBI installer.

Use it and install Ubuntu 64-bit (if your computer supports it) on the largest size possible (probably about 30gb).

This will install Ubuntu onto a virtual harddrive and allow you to boot from it on startup. If you decide one day you don't want it anymore, just go to programs and features in Windows and uninstall it.

Hope this helps ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jazzmoe76:
Thank you. That helps a lot!

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That's really cool. I hope to be there by this weekend. I'm going to grab Linux and start working.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Mad Medik:
Its http://www.linuxmint.com to get info. There is a download link and I decided to go with the KDE version because it is supposed to be the easiest transition for users used to the windows type point and click. I can't vouch for that claim, but I can say it was very straight forward. Example: You burn the ISO to a DVD and it becomes a bootable OS. If you decide you like it, there is an install option on the home screen. One of the install options is for a dual boot and it will create the partition for you. Seriously very easy. While backing up is always a good idea, there was no restore of your data. Your existing OS, apps and data all remain intact while it creates a new partition and installs (assuming you have sufficient drive space, of course...).

Anyhow, there are other options out there. It came down to Linuxmint and Ubuntu for me, simply because reviews indicated that they were the most user friendly for noobies.

MM