[Android Apps and Games] edakimling:
RE: Feedback on version 3.0

Hm...I could understand you removed it for when the launcher appears - that makes total sense. But my other existing gestures - such as the default four finger pinch to go to home screen that I use - no longer show notifications

Perhaps I spoke too soon. I had the 'impression' the multitouch device deection was affecting the 'quirkiness' of recognizing gestures from trigger zones; after more testing this morning, I think it is related to the thickness of the border I described. so don't worry about this issue.

I mean the border calibration. I know you indicated you have plans to make this detection more automatic. I just wanted to concur with you. Perhaps - just an idea - you could move the 'section' about border calibration to the middle - horizontally - so that if someone gets into same situation as me, they could click 'default' and restore things. It being on the side is what can cause it to be beyond the calibrated border and thus inaccessible. But if your plans pan out, don't worry about it too much I suppose.

I think it would be great if users on this forum provided some feedback as to what they think this feature should evolve into. Users here have been pretty good at helping you decide on valuable features and polish others. I don't have any specific ideas for the moment; when / if I do, I will gladly post them here.

I think I would miss the feature of the trigger zones. I think the idea behind it - basically allow single and double finger gestures - is sound an valid. It's just that the configuration of the trigger zones and implementation needs polishing. I perfectly understand this feature is at its infancy and you're working on it - hence the feedback.

I am very interested in what you said: "One idea is to allow click go through, but consume swipes and long press". Particularly "allow the click" go through. What do you mean? As far as I can tell, you do not so far support 'clicks', which I interpret as a 'tap'? (Although taps and double or triple even taps would be a cool feature, differentiated from swipe).

If the click is meant as a tap, they yes, it could work to allow it to pass through. In my testing, that is what I experienced - the taps being 'obstructed' and not passed through to the apps. I suppose that would be a good compromise - I don't see too many apps allowing swiping 'from the border' - most don't have swipes at all and those that do allow it to be triggered from anywhere.

Another idea is to extend the concept of blacklist to not juts per app, but also perhaps per gesture and / or per trigger zone. So if there is a particularly problematic app, you could exclude that trigger zone for the app, and then single and/or double swipes / taps would go through to the app. The exception of course would be bottom left 1/3 and bottom left corner, as these areas will always 'cover' the nav buttons which, unless you hide the bottom border, you always need to access.

I see. Thanks for pointing that out. It's too bad though the Os does not expose that. I'll look into if a particular ROM exposes it and then make a Tasker shortcut to it and have it triggered by your app.

Hey, it is very, very tough to create a balance 'sheet' of features. Give more power or control, and you increase complexity. Give less and you limit features. One of the biggest reasons I dumped my iPhone is that I got sick and tired of Apple deciding for me to use limited features in apps. I always found that the dilemma here could be easily solved by running an app in two modes: 'simple' and 'advanced'. Literally have either a toggle, that if clicked, opens up more tabs in the UI - yes, more work would need to be done in the UI.

In simple mode, you'd have far more predefined gestures, and allow some flexibility, BUT KEEP IT SIMPLE. This is for the 80% of users that don't care to have the device work according to them; they want some benefit but will comply with the 'limitations' of the app.

The rest of us will be running on advanced mode, where we'll have all these nice features you're pumping out :)

Again, this is feedback from one person; I would love to see, as it happened till now - discussion emerge on this forum in respect to the trigger zones. I think it is a terrific idea; let's see where it can go.

And hey, my offer (for free of course) still stands if you want me to write a help guide once the features solidify. You'd be welcome to use it or not. If not, I'd post it perhaps here as an unofficial guide. If you use it, great. No need for credits either. It's just to help out. You're putting more effort into this then you reap rewards; thus it is only fair some of us help out.

Cheers!