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[General Questions and Answers] cristimarius:
Hi, I have a Nokia 6700c that reeboots itself,how do i fix this ?
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Let's try this again:

One of the more interesting announcements from our beloved manufacturer at MWC 2012 was that they admit that Sense had become too cluttered and ask us to expect a much leaner design in 4.0

http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/2/2840336/htc-sense-ui-got-cluttered-redesign

This is promising, because it demonstrates that your voice is heard.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I wonder if they decided this since their sales have been going down, people speak with their wallets, and that's when companies take notice.
[HTC Rezound] krelvinaz:
There is a whole thread on this already that ended up getting locked.

Dead horse...
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Actually I think there can be decent discussion. The old thread was effectively stating HTC admits sense is crap which wasn't true. This thread is true. Cluttered !=crap.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
totally agree.
[HTC Rezound] qudwis:
hopefully we get some rams to spare
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
RAM to spare is not how Android works. If you have too much spare RAM in Android then your apps aren't loading effectively. OT, I didn't think Sense was cluttered. I just didn't like the way it used screen real estate. The newer Sense 3.6 is more to my liking. But to me if you're going to take out the traditional Sense launcher then why not just go AOSP plus Sense widgets?
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
yeah the way in which the op of this thread posted this was in a mature, intellectual manner that can spark a true discussion, unlike the other thread.

I love sense, but yeah i agree sense 3.5 seems much more hoggish than 2 did, and of course 1. it'll be cool to see what's up their sleeves for 4.0,even though I love 3.5
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I respectfully disagree. The OP's intentions in the other thread were to deliberately cause turmoil to people that actually enjoyed Sense, which, inevitably, lead to a flame war.

The OP in here realized that and actually said, "Let's try this again." His intentions are to try to have a nice discussion about the subject.

To add to the topic, I'm sure the new Sense will be a lot less resource intensive and I hope it will be as quick as some AOSP ROMS. I like some aspects of Sense on the Rezound, but it really does consume way too many resources.

I really like the Weather and **** Widget and that was one of the things I missed on my Incredible when I moved to AOSP ROMS. Also I liked the Dialer a lot, too. Sense 3.5 does make things "look" a lot nicer compared to AOSP, but I do agree they have "cluttered" it way too much in Sense 3.5
[HTC Rezound] godsmacked4653:
Haven't found that widget yet.. :D
[HTC Rezound] brisdaddy1207:
Lol I wouldn't want a **** widget.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
Does that widget come with a Ron Jeremy skin? I'll never get my phone away from my wife.....

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Those afflicted with Choice Supportive Bias may be uncomfortable with any criticism of a product they purchased, but xda is perfectly capable of this discussion.

This announcement has me more excited about Sense 4.0 because rather than loading it with more features, like most updates, they might actually be slimming it down! I'm hoping for smoother window and transition animations, as a result.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
LOL, this post made me laugh my a** off (I'm still chuckling)

I met Ron once (they actually had him as a guest speaker at my Son's college)
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
once again, its a phone, not a 30k car. If you don't like sense, shouldn't have bought the phone. Expecting an htc phone to not have sense is ignorant at best considering every android htc phone has it.
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Have you guys tried out the sense 4 ports? It's absolutely the best thing I've ever used on android, and I promise, I will do anything to the dev that gets it to daily driver first. :beer:

Sent from my bad**s mofo HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
what does sense 4 add over 3.6 that we have now in the leaks?
[HTC Rezound] chupajr:
Regarding the OP:

Yeah, I am REALLY excited to see them changing their tune on this. It was pretty concerning to see the HTC guy at the CES roundtable so vehemently defending Sense ("It's not a skin, it's an experience").

I also don't hate Sense, but I do think there's a lot they can do to lighten it up and modernize it. Running an ICS ROM right now is pretty jarring as you transition between Sense and stock (Holo) apps and interface elements.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
i don't agree with this really. i always buy htc but i hate sense. we usually always get aosp roms which are usually superior anyways. this phone will fly once we get cm9.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
the phone already flies, it can't get any faster for me. Button presses are immediately recognized, I can scroll the home screen without lag.

The days of saying that sense is slowing down the phone are gone for me.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Oh yeah, the developers hid it in the coding, but I found it! It's pretty solid, har har.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
I thought the point of this thread was to avoid the "personal" attacks that you have just included in this post.

If one doesn't want someone else to get defensive one should not tell the other that what they love is crap. It's all in the delivery, as was shown in your original post on this topic. Unfortunately now you have decided to "blame the victim" again. That other thread was not just "any criticism", it was a full blown attack on Sense.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
yea, I've been saying exactly the same thing.

How can you get any faster than basically instant response (which any properly setup rezound has now with or without sense) except in meaningless useless benchmarks???
[HTC Rezound] username235:
It doesnt add anything. It completely washes away everything from 3.x, and recreates something with a way better, smoother feel, and more pleasing aesthetics. It's not just an interface that's just the recreated 3.5 from gingerbread. More features like 3rd party support for beats. Skins change a lot more stuff, like it did in 2.1, along with having more skins available. I like skins. No more 3D carousal. Just kind of a curving scroll effect, not really sure how to explain it. Lighter in the resource department, so probably easily more smooth than what we have now. The keyboard works nicer, to me, and looks different for the first time ever since Sense 1.0, and the improved trace feature, I wont even be using swype anymore.

Look through it, play with it, it's a huge improvement.

Sent from my bad**s mofo HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Don't let her touch that skin... she will probably catch something.
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
Based on all that it should be called Unicorn Sense :D. I can't wait until Newt or Joelz get their Sense 4.0 ports working.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
All of this^
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
I'm fine with the current sense but a new keyboard and beats throughout would be nice.
[HTC Rezound] ftmaniac948:
I'm really going to miss that carasol though :(

I'm living on a yellow submarine
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
I'm with you I just hope it doesn't end at the last screen like sense 1.0

sent from my sexy Htc Rezound
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Sadly, it does, and there's wallpaper scrolling again, like 1.0-2.1.
[HTC Rezound] trickster2369:
I really hated scrolling wallpapers and the stopping home screens. :mad:
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
so, sense 4.0 is a step backwards in functionality to make everyone happy that it's less bloated? no thanks. won't be buying one of those phones, that's for sure. The non continuous scrolling homepages is enough for me to not bother with it. When I updated my HTC view to honeycomb it got rid of that, while gb had it. Most annoying thing ever. can't stand it.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Thanks for your opinion and you're wrong the Nexus One was a HTC phone... So hah! :-P

And what's it matter to you if people want something else on their Android phones? I'm glad your phone flies and irons your clothes.

What I eat don't make you sh*t sir.

Sent from my Rizzy Rezound
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
I'm glad you guys have found the UI to be flawless, but that isn't the case with most of us. There is an unquestionable delay when I bring up the app drawer. Or when I slide the screens left to right. There's a very distinct reason for this delay, inherent in the Android framework.

If you actually want to know why, here is an excellent article written by one of Android's engineers:

https://plus.google.com/113612142759476883204/posts/JMqfWv5dZV1

Interestingly enough, much of this problem should be taken care of in Android 4.0. I've tried Sense, ADW launcher, GO launcher and they all experience the lag. (Even after a factory reset, lest one try to pin the blame on various rogue apps) It must be a UI issue inherent in Android 2.3.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I think you guys are looking for a solution to a non existant problem........
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Did you read the article? Android developers can admit that Android doesn't have the fluidity that iOS has, but you can't?

To you, this may be trivial, but that "disconnect" that occurs each time the screen does not follow your finger precisely, has lost enough buyers to iOS that Android sees it as a problem.

But you don't.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I don't need to read a tech article to know my phone has zero lag.

I own multiple devices with both android & IOS & they both work just fine for me at this point.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Haha, ok then!
[HTC Rezound] ftmaniac948:
Lol back on topic, why would HTC get rid of the carasol effect? Is that sort of transition heavy on the phone? Or is it an attempt to bring back the glory days of sense 2.1 lol

I'm living on a yellow submarine
[HTC Rezound] androidaddict23:
From the mwc video I watch it still uses the carousel effect.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
Am I in the minority being I HATE the carousel effect? Pisses me off ever time I want to just go to the next screen over and the damn thing spins around a couple of times.

I for one would welcome it removed. Better yet, maybe an option to disable it so you have the option to have it or not?
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Sort of, but not really. It's not 3D anymore, just kind of a rolling, cylindrical effect. It doesn't curve nearly as much as it does now on 3.x though.

Sent from my bad**s mofo HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] godsmacked4653:
I'm with you. I like Sense 1, no animations, stops at the last screen scrolling. :)

I miss the rotation animations from the latest CM7 nightlies. That's the only animation I care about.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
I could care less about making it spin like a top, but being able to go from most left screen to the most right screen with one swipe, I would still like to see that.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
That, yes. They should keep that. But the spinning thing is really irritating.
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
So it's not 3d but it won't stop after 3 screens left or right and make you swipe the opposite way right ? If it does that like sense 1 I'm just keeping gb

sent from my sexy Htc Rezound
[HTC Rezound] username235:
This is the best I could picture it. But no, there's no more infinite scroll ( :( ) but you can still make it to where you only have however many homescreens you need. But see how the Widgets aren't 3D anymore? It just kinda curves now, in a different carousal scroll effect. Not sure if it still has the annoying flinging thing that serves no purpose except utterly bored amusement anymore though.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
sigh. getting rid of the infinite scroll is really a step back in progress. way to go, htc.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
What the heck do you guys put on your homescreen that this is a concern? I struggle to fill three homescreens.
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
I'm officially Piss*d

sent from my sexy Htc Rezound
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
Exactly. Hopefully we get 3.6 lol jk I like the pros in sense 4.0 to much to let the Cons outweigh it

sent from my sexy Htc Rezound
[HTC Rezound] username235:
I use about five homescreens. HTC twitter widget way on the left, then internet and social apps, plus Google search bar atop that screen. Then the clock weather widget, and xda on the homescreen. Urban dictionary and some random tools like gallery, root explorer, etc., and finally the HTC messages widget. Yep, I love my HTC widgets. I've never seen Sense launcher lag on me with all that, and I've been using it the same way since the incredible Sense 1 - now.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
You know that guy has been disproven multiple times, right. So you are validating your claim with false info.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
No kidding, that will stop me from using it for sure. It's like "be careful what you wish for". People want it "less bloated" so they do that by removing some of it's best features.

I absolutely hated not having that in previous versions and certainly won't give it up now.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
You want a different ui, knock yourself out. Just stop complaining about the one that comes stock.

Back to the car, don't like the radio put in an aftermarket, just stop complaining about something that you knew was on there when you made the purchase.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
I'd use 10 screens if I could.

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Oh snap, didn't know i couldn't say what I wanted on a forum. Thanks for the info.

People are free to complain about whatever they want, same way you're free to ignore it.

*shrug*

Sent from my Rizzy Rezound
[HTC Rezound] cmcfalls:
I came across this topic by accident looking for a solution to my wife's complaint that her Rezound doesn't have scrolling wallpaper like her Incredible did. Drama, I know. She likes to use separate photos for each screen. Bugs the crap out of me, but it's her phone.

But, I don't understand why HTC can't just make scrolling wallpaper and the endless scrolling an option. This would please the majority of people.

Launcher Pro does this. You can turn off wallpaper scrolling, and if I remember correctly, you can enable looped scrolling. Yes, when you get to the far left screen on a scrolling wallpaper, it snaps to the far right. But, that's just what you're going to get with wallpaper scrolling.

If it is set up as an option, you could have 1) scrolling wallpaper without looped scroll, 2) scrolling wallpaper with looped scroll (and weird snap to end animation), 3) no scrolling wallpaper and looped scrolling, or 4) no scrolling wallpaper without looped scrolling.

I think most people would find one of those four options that makes them happy.

But, this seems like it's too logical, therefore it will never happen.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Really? Aware me. And it's not a guy. LOL Gina may be married to a chick, but she's not a guy!
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
Looks like HTC was right about cluttered. Wowee.

Mine, for comparison--

---------- Post added at 04:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:07 PM ----------

I really wonder if what's happening here is what happened on Facebook/Myspace, and it's all about class/aesthetics and the visual expectations and norms at work.

http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/feb/25/in-the-world-of-facebook/?pagination=false

The class basis of Facebook’s early success is most evident in comparison with its greatest rival: MySpace. To join Facebook, you needed a college e-mail address; for everyone else—once Friendster, for various reasons, became less popular—there was MySpace. The result, as David Brooks observed in 2006, was a “huge class distinction between the people on Facebook and the much larger and less educated population that uses MySpace.”

Even after Facebook opened its membership, successively, to high schools, corporations, and the world at large—trying to capitalize on the site’s early success, which, Zuckerberg and his inventors hoped, was due to more than mere exclusivity—class distinctions remained important. Danah Boyd, a fellow at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society who is one of the best- informed academics studying social networks, wrote a much-discussed essay in 2007 that laid out, in broadly stereotypical terms, the preferred sites of many high school students:

(...)

The importance of class was also evident in the sites’ aesthetics. Facebook has always been praised for its “clean” design, as opposed to the “lascivious, spam-ified, knife-wielding clutter of MySpace” (New York), with its “shrieking typography and clamorous imagery” (The Chronicle of Higher Education). But as Julia Angwin documents in her book Stealing MySpace, the site’s aesthetic came from its members. MySpace early on tried to impose fairly severe restrictions on how pages could be constructed; these restrictions, however, were easily circumvented, and MySpace’s engineers, who were not particularly competent programmers, declined to repair the holes revealed by hackers.

While MySpace listed details similar to if less sophisticated than Facebook—”Education,” but also “Body Type” and “Zodiac Sign”—a MySpace page could otherwise look like almost anything else online. Every Facebook page, by contrast, was laid out in exactly the same way, painted in an inoffensive if antiseptic palette of pastel blues on bright white. Facebook’s engineers, much abler than their counterparts at MySpace, quickly stifled any attempts to break these rules. To call MySpace “ugly” would be roughly equivalent to categorically denouncing graffiti—to praise Facebook for its “clean” design, akin to celebrating tract housing.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
But you can change the radio in your car...can't take sense off an HTC phone...atleast not in a way that would be easy.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
what? yeah you can. when you run aosp, sense is GONE.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Is there an AOSP rezound ROM that works as a daily driver??
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
Don't think so, just Senseless.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
my bad, he said HTC phone, so i was just talking about HTC in general. almost every HTC phone has AOSP roms, especially the popular ones.
[HTC Rezound] mighty_markus12:
we need some aosp and soon.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
If I didn't use it, I wouldn't have it. Plus 3 widgets take up 2 and a half screens on their own. You should see all the apps in each one of the circle launchers. My home screen is pretty clean however and that's where it rests.

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
haha yeah i suppose..i hate AOSP look, so i wouldn't get it, but i'm sure many people want it badly
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
Funny how they said sense got cluttered, and just today the Sensation XE just got a release of ICS with Sense 3.6, which as we have seen isn't much better than 3.5.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Well the "fixing" of all the clutter is what is supposed to be Sense 4, not 3.6
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
That's kind of my point. HTC talking about how Sense got cluttered and Sense 4.0 and beyond will fix it/ But, then today their halo(ish) device gets upgraded to ICS, but paired with Sense 3.6, which is more the same as their previous "cluttered" versions.
[HTC Rezound] zerocool79346:
Welcome to the joy of owning an HTC device lol. Unless you buy their absolute flagship phone at the moment, you won't be getting their newest software except through dev ports.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
I'll go find the rebuttals from google. apparently this person didn't know quite as much about android as they thought they did.

EDIT: who is this gina chick? This whole Android UI lag debate was started by an ex-intern of google, Andrew Munn:

https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS

Several disproving points here:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/14/2706793/the-mythical-ios-dedicated-high-priority-ui-thread

If this was not what you were talking about, then I apologize. This is what was going around a few months ago.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Yeah, Gina is another intern (formerly on the Android team, now with Windows) and her article explains why Andrew Munn was wrong on several points. She does a good job of explaining why. Better than even The Verge article, and I usually like how succinct they are!

While Andrew was wrong on a few assumptions, the differences in framework from Android 2.3 to Android 3.0+ are significant and seem to tax system resources far less, allowing for better performance and less energy utilization. Unfortunate that the whistleblower got discredited and tarnished the argument from the outset, because it does carry some merit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sohailrana:
i have samsung GS2 i727 (official cell to samsung emploies, not for sale), i bought it in used condition

the set is not showing 16 GB internal memory...

please can any body tell me that wheather it is software problem or phone does not have this?

the battery take too much time for charging. is this battery issue or software problem?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
First off 16 gig internal memory is emmc and yes we have it second your statement about the battery is to vague to tell you anything how long does it take to charge what charger are you using how many amps/ miliamps does it put out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sohailrana:
the cell take 4% per hr when i charge it with samsung 5.0 V & 0.7 amp charger.

How can get excess to 16 GiG memory ?

Also when i open gallery it says "not enough memory delete some memory"..what is this ???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
Stock charger is a 1 amp so it will take longer with .7 also 4%per hr don't seem to bad as far as memory your SD card or emmc is full
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sohailrana:
following appears on setting > storage>

sd card

total space 7.2 GB

USB storage

total space 9.97 MB

System Storage

available space 1.85 GB

is the usb storage normal? how can i dell from system storage?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] DoctorQMM:
It depends on what apps, programs, files, pics you have downloaded, installed, transferred or taken. sdcard is your external sd... usb storage is your internal sd... and system storage is the preallocated storage the android system uses (2gb) that is reserved for android use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sohailrana:
USB storage is 10 MB, is it normal for sky rocket?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Myrmidon83:
Hello all.

I've been out the loop for a while now, still got stock sense on my DZ but have recently become very interested in MIUI roms. I have a few quick questions I hope someone can answer as after reading the various roms etc I'm a bit confused.

1. How well do MIUI roms work with the hardware keyboard? I'm seeing a few threads saying it isn't totally supported. This is a deal breaker for me really, can anyone clarify?

2. Which MIUI rom? I see there is an official one, but also others similar to official eg MIUIandroid, any particular 'best' version?

3. How is the battery life compared to sense? Does anyone have any current draw figures for screen off etc, my sense draws around 32mA screen off.

4. I assume they come with overclockable kernels, if so, is OC beater or whatever it's called still the best to use?

I'm interested to hear from MIUI users, sell it to me.

:P
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] namelessname:
1. I've had no problems while using the keyboard with MIUI, it seems to work the same way as before. I have heard some people say that their backlights don't work but mine do. However, landscape is not supported on the homescreen but it is everywhere else.

2. I use the official english supported rom for Desire Z/G2, you can get it from ROM Manager or the MIUI website. I'm not sure about the best one because I've only used the official one.

I don't know about 3 and 4 but I do enjoy using MIUI. It was the first rom I used after I rooted my phone. I used to want sense but because of emoji support and themes I probably won't use another. I do recommend it as I have not been disappointed.