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[Epic 4G Android Development] amateurhack:
Used to be they would send you a text and turn off your phone. They have softened up over the years. Something about losing millions of subscribers...
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
Whichever works best for you is the recommended modem... start flasshing them all and see which gives you the best signal/speed...
[Epic 4G Android Development] itsed:
Whenever I send a long text to both of my friends on Iphones, they get a long garbeled message looking like above.

Any idea whats going on?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Speedin07si:
It should be set by default on the stock messaging app. But if you are using a 3rd party messaging app make sure you have it set to split large text (greater the 160 characters).

Sent from my Epic Ice Cream Sandwhich
[Epic 4G Android Development] RickyRage:
Go into settings and split the messages
[Epic 4G Android Development] itsed:
I just saw that 3rd party programs that dont split messages causes this problem. Im trying to find a way if ChompSMS does this, if not I guess back to stock for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] hayzooos:
GoSMS Pro does this, and they're also working to include 'MMS Group Chat' which is what iPhones use. I say 'working on' because it's there, but MMS gets screwy after the first time you use it.

Example, if an iPhone person sends a text to two people (anything more than one person) it comes through as MMS. You can go into the message details and see who it was sent to based on the numbers in the list. It won't match them to contacts you have though, that's a bummer. However, if you enable 'MMS Group Chat' in GoSMS it's supposed to allow you to partake in said iPhone created conversation. Would be nice if it worked well and didn't bork MMS after the first response.
[Epic 4G Android Development] markstibbyspot:
Mine sends weird messages too when they are too long, but I am still on Clean GB...so I would assume it is an issue with the messaging not the ICS
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
What messaging app are you using on CleanGB? You have to make sure SMS get spilt when over 160chars

~E.R.A.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
Never had that problem with tw roms... ever... I send VERY long messages to my wife everyday with cm9 and clean gb... cm9 make sure the messages are getting split after 160 chars...
[Epic 4G Android Development] euphgirl:
I JUST switched from Launcher Pro to Apex Launcher. A little sluggish at times but I like it! It has the sliding dock and if you "stack" apps it creates a folder in the dock.
[Epic 4G Android Development] amateurhack:
Please excuse the short off topic rant:

Group MMS is the worst messaging system ever invented. While I hate that gVoice is not mms compatible, I am so thankful that I don't have to put up with the group reply nonsense my wife has to deal with on her iPhone.

This comment is not directed at anyone in this thread, including hayzooos. Just my opinion.

Rant over. Glad its off my chest.

Proceed.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
Why did you ditch the Trebuchet launcher that comes with stock CM9? I miss the sliding dock, but are there any other gains outside of widgets, as I have a single empty home screen setup...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Cartmanz:
Chomp does give you the option to split messages. The option is not checked by default
[Epic 4G Android Development] mis3:
Yes, it means the search function on your phone and computer are both broken.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Cartmanz:
Ahahahahahaha
[Epic 4G Android Development] diablo311:
Is cm9 dead on epic now? Or will there be any future updates?
[Epic 4G Android Development] razortooth:
hahahaha!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
These are the kinds of questions that make our devs sigh....

Please....PLEASE....read the blog @ epiccm.blospot.com before asking the status if the ROM.

They *JUST* released a pre-beta3 for mass testing.

~E.R.A.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zman519:
Right on :-) see zander we arege at times ;-)

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Forgive my question, but "arege?" You mean agree? Well of course lol

~E.R.A.
[Epic 4G Android Development] IMPuLSe EX:
~nice~
[Epic 4G Android Development] philowneus:
There will be updates.
[Epic 4G Android Development] philowneus:
Fixed
[Epic 4G Android Development] RandomKing:
What are some battery lives people are seeing? Personally, I've found almost no reason to clamor over ICS. The pulldown curtain I have on Gingerbread right now with a scrolling row of various toggles is far more useful. Samsung's integrated slide-your-finger-along-the-top brightness adjustment is incredibly useful. I'm still not sure how I feel about the task manager option, it feels limited and offers no ram/cpu usage data and feels more like a knockoff of the IOS task manager rather than something useful. The only thing I've found significantly more intuitive/useful is the system settings.

These are my opinions, no need to argue, nothing against CM9.

But it is CM9 that has brought ICS to our phone, and I have to feel that a lot of deep settings and drivers have not been fine-tuned to our phone to maximize performance and battery the way Samsung intended. After popping in a fresh battery, I watched my phone lose 50% in 10 hours without my even touching it. Battery stats indicate that the phone was not waking up, ruling that out as a factor. Fine tweaking adjustments to cpu and ram yielded similar, if not worse, results. What kind of battery lives are other people seeing?

If you know my roms, you know I strive for battery life. My phone is a tool, and to be a useful tool it needs to have power. :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] murso74:
Really?
[Epic 4G Android Development] epicnoob66:
I average 20hr per charge with 3500mah.

Moderate use with 2hr screen time and data on all day.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DurhamHusker:
With the 1800 mAh battery from the Epic Touch I can easily reach 3 hours of screen on time if I'm in a good signal area. And I'm pretty happy with that. There are two things that I've found that do the most battery killing for me.

The first is signal strength: If I get into a low level signal area, my battery loses juice quickly.

The second is "rogue apps:" I've found a few apps that appear to steal more CPU cycles on CM9 than on any TW Gingerbread ROM I've run. I seem to remember hearing that some of these apps are not yet tuned for ICS, and I suppose that's entirely possible. For instance, Facebook's app will drive my processor to over 50% for a period of time AFTER I've backed out of the app. There is the option to kill it by holding down the 'back' key but then there's the possibility of data corruption.

One other thing I've done is to turn off my Google contact sync. Those contacts don't really change much, so I'll manually force a sync if I need to update something. For some reason I seem to remember thinking that my battery lasted just a bit longer after doing that. I don't know.

As far as functionality is concerned, one thing I'm not able to do with CM9 that I normally do with TW ROMs is use bluetooth to connect to my Vtech phone at home (it works mostly, but I can't initiate a call from the Vtech handset). And I've had 4G drop out on me a few times and I've had the wifi hotspot die on me once, too.

Like you I also miss the task manager. So I've had to learn to live with other apps to get me the info I need. CM9 does have scrollable and configurable toggles in the pull down notification, though. And there does exist a configuration option to enable brightness control by dragging across the notification area.

Sorry for the randomness of all that ... just a few of my own thoughts.
[Epic 4G Android Development] hayzooos:
I agree 100%. Biggest PITA ever.
[Epic 4G Android Development] PAPutzback:
Best response ever.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Glewis21:
I send all text sms and its send all number and signs is there a fix for this
[Epic 4G Android Development] Speedin07si:
People must not read anything these days.... double check to make sure your text are set to split messages larger then 160 characters.

When I say people must not read. This was said no more then 20 post ago also countless times before then even going back to the alpha builds.

Sent from my Epic Ice Cream Sandwhich
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ragnar:
This is a joke right?

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[Epic 4G Android Development] LunaticWolf:
I am currently running Beta0, but I did not see this fixed in any of the changelogs.

Someone sent me a MMS today with a video attached. If I click the play button, it opens a window that immediately crashes. Clicking on the background of the video or the message itself does nothing.

Any ideas?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ashbuly:
Update to beta 2

Sent from my pimped out CM9 ICS Epic 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
PLEASE use SEARCH or even Google. This has been mentioned at least 30 times before. I hate to start deleting these redundant posts of people who will not search or read a little about the software they are putting on their phone. Check the split messages box for 160 characters in whatever messaging app you are using.
[Epic 4G Android Development] chrishighs:
I see about 28-30 hours per charge with average screen time of 2-3 hours with an Epic touch battery.

I do know your ROMs, which achieve better battery performance by disabling things like push email, which are what make my phone a useful tool to begin with. Just saying, different strokes.....
[Epic 4G Android Development] -SpeedofSound-:
Right on...same here. Ever since I have switched to the Epic touch battery, I can use the heck out of my phone like normal with everything sync'd and data on. I take my phone off the charger at 5:45am and it lasts me all day easily. When I plug it in at night, around 11:00 pm to 12:00 am, I still have 40% battery left. I do not know the exact usage figures off the top of my head but I receive about 120 emails and send about 50 a day, send and receive about 150 or so texts a day, and I play games randomly for 20 or 30 minutes here and there throughout the day and again at night in bed for about 2 to 3 hours straight trying to get tired to go to sleep....LOL.

I love CM9 and I have absolutely NO ISSUES with battery life at all!

Cheers!
[Epic 4G Android Development] beltsnspoons:
Mms works fine on my phone as well, with a theme and with marcusants awesome nyan kernel. And my screen looks so frkn good!
[Epic 4G Android Development] nastypup:
Where can I find information about troubleshooting my wifi/3G issue with the stock kernel. I wrote a couple of days ago that I had to flash Shadow Kernel so I could send a post here because my wifi was down. Why can't I get 3G to work with the stock kernel? It works fine with Shadow.

Cyanogen Mod Beta 2, Shadow kernel, EL30. I like my Ice Cream Sandwich!
[Epic 4G Android Development] beltsnspoons:
It is more likely related to what he was doing at the time than a kernel issue. The two custom kernels I have used extensively for cm9, shadow and nyan are both very stable and on my opinion, and im sure many others, make the cm9 experience much better. I see a lot of custom kernel bashing on this thread and a lot of people just blaming every issue on a custom kernel, when 9 times out of 10 the issue is user error and nothing to do with cm9 OR the increddible custom kernels available for it. I am not trying to take anything from the cm devs or their work or there kernel, I would just like to see people try helping a little more than, "using a different kernel, well there's your problem" on an issue where not even enough info to make an educated assumption was given in the first place. Why not tryv asking the guy what he is normally doing when the reboots occur and getting some actual usable info? Its most likely an app he's using or a bad setting somewhere.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ragnar:
What modem are you using?

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[Epic 4G Android Development] nastypup:
It's in my signature ;-). EL30

Cyanogen Mod Beta 2, Shadow kernel, EL30. I like my Ice Cream Sandwich!
[Epic 4G Android Development] chrishighs:
Try FC09 flash via odin?
[Epic 4G Android Development] nastypup:
Why? It's working with Shadow. I want to know why it's not working with the stock CM9 kernel. Is it working on everyone else's phone?

Cyanogen Mod Beta 2, Shadow Kernel, EL30. I like my Ice Cream Sandwich!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ragnar:
Correct it should not be the modem, even though people who used FC19 had lots of weird things occur. But EL30 is solid and that's what I have used since it rolled out.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Shadow did not change anything 3g related so it just seems to be placebo/luck
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
The kernel in this case, imposes no form of control to cause such an abnormality unwillingly against the modem. This could be any other list of oddities to have occurred(None of them your fault), as others aren't suffering this while running alongside the "stock" CM9.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Zeinzu:
Using the Beta3 Pre3. Was using the test kernel before with Beta2. On Beta2 with the test kernel 100mhz worked even with 1200mhz enabled. On Beta3 Pre3 once 1200mhz is enabled 100mhz is no longer used.
[Epic 4G Android Development] epicnoob66:
When using maps or nav, I don't remember which, it would lock up my gps and data. Un-installing and re-installing maps fixed this problem. Maybe he has an issue like this???
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
Hrmmm, well nothing OC wise was changed(I'd know because I'd be complaining about losing my day to development lol), however that savings modification was added in, that could possibly be the culprit? Or just some random occurrence. Though, I don't doubt that it's continuing to make 200 Mhz the minimum.
[Epic 4G Android Development] epicnoob66:
Do you have your oc set on boot? What are u using to manage CPU?
[Epic 4G Android Development] amateurhack:
My experience was that after reinstalling, nav worked, but not consistently.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DarkIceCream:
The only problems I've been having lately are:

1.Random reboots the start from the splash screen

2.Car mode activating by itself!!!!!! all the time!! RQ

3.Speaker Phone is really choppy

4.Apps crashing alot more
[Epic 4G Android Development] Zeinzu:
It set on boot. I use the built in performance settings with the stock kernel. I already had it set to these settings and 100 worked fine with 1200 being max. Once I flashed the new test build the settings stayed but 200 became the minimum. Changing it back to 100 does nothing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Glewis21:
Its not a joke I was just askin I seen the fix thank u and read on the eariler post and I find out why it does this and again thank u
[Epic 4G Android Development] epicnoob66:
Give this a shot

Un check set on boot move back to 100 min. IN perfomance setting. Reboot.

Dl voltage control and setup the way you want it. Save as init.d

Remove VC app or freeze apk. Reboot

This works for me....might work for you idk.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jmuru:
Hey Random,

Keeping in mind that battery lives don't really translate between users, I will say that I get about 10 hours on CM9 vs. about 16 on Thunderhawk 3 (haven't tried Thunderhawk 4 yet). The reason I keep CM9 as my current daily has to do with my work shift lasting less than 10 hours and that, aesthetically, I prefer ICS: Roboto is a beautiful font and there's very few negatives to the ICS experience. If I needed more time off the charger, I'd certainly recommend Thunderhawk 4.
[Epic 4G Android Development] leftkidney:
one thing to mention is that its not just the user its the battery in the phone so one person even doing the same things could have different battery life

battery life isnt as good as when I was using MidnightROM 5.5 for about a year, it was 2.2 EC05 EXT4 Journaling ON - my battery life was great, like about 6 hours of talk time before it would be at the 15% mark and warn me

now battery life is also great but not so much as before

I will put it like this, when I was on "stock" 2.2 battery life was total crap that stupid CIQ and others sucking up battery like none other and I would have to charge my phone near the end of the day or it could be dead before I got home - then came midnightrom and it was great, battery life went right up, before I would almost always be getting home just as my phone would beep telling me 15% battery left - with midnightrom that never happened unless I really used it lots more then usual

now I am again seeing the 15% (or 14% as it is in this rom) warning a few hours after I get home and my phone is just sitting next to me doing nothing just not plugged in

talk time is lower I am estimating around 4 hours 5 max but havent used it for long enough to see - before I could see my battery usage and phone calls was always second to display except for a few times when all I did the whole day was talk on the phone and I saw a total up time of 8 hours 33 min before the 15% mark while most all of that was the phone usage at around 6 hours and the screen being the rest mostly - the reason I say 4-5 hours max is because I have talked for 4 hours and it was at the 15% mark but I had also used my phone for internet use also where as before I was just making calls
[Epic 4G Android Development] xopher.hunter:
If ANYTHING is synced, standby battery time is crap. After I took all my auto updating stuff off I was getting 20+ hours with 3hrs of screen on time with an epic touch battery.

Sent from my Nexus Slide 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] vita10gy:
I've found that if I turn off wifi, put it in airplane mode, then turn it off completely, the battery life is nearly infinite.
[Epic 4G Android Development] murso74:
I sync and still get 20 hours
[Epic 4G Android Development] xopher.hunter:
Yeah but its always chance that it won't go back to sleep after syncing. Some days I would make it to the charger at night and others wouldn't even come close. Now its consistent, but that's just me.

Sent from my Nexus Slide 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] RandomKing:
I'm well aware of the variances involved. I've extensively tested the issue on three epics for over a year now. This is why I asked and appreciate multiple viewpoints on the matter.

However, despite additional input and my best tweaking, battery life thus far is the primary negative of any ICS for the Epic. Testing appears nearly identical on CM9 and AOKP and has proven unusable for me, personally. My previous Symbian Nokia used to achieve roughly 5 days with decently heavy texting, low calling, and rare internet browsing. Android is a much more intensive system on a much more impressive hardware set. That said, my opinion is that A phone should be able to remain in standby (on, unused, ready to take a call) for at least 48 hours to be considered a useful phone. But without once turning on the screen, CM9 can kill mine in under 20 hours.

I'm looking forward to improvement! :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] vita10gy:
My older phone lasted forever too, but it didn't have an always on internet connection, to name one difference.

The only difference between checking your gmail with the screen on, and waiting to be told you have a new email, is the screen is on. There's really no such thing as "not using" an android phone, unless you turn off just about everything that makes paying for one, and the service, worthwhile.

To each his own, and we all obviously have our own priorities, but I don't really understand the "I should be able to get lost in the wilderness for a fortnight and come home with 40% battery left", or turning off essentially everything that makes these a "smart" phone, attitude. Drop $4 on a few extra micro usb cables, and plug the damn thing in once in a while. :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] nastypup:
It's interesting but Shadow has fixed the problem with 3 different versions of CM. Maybe my phone needs a psychiatrist ;-)

Cyanogen Mod Beta 2, Shadow Kernel, EL30. I like my Ice Cream Sandwich!
[Epic 4G Android Development] bpdfs:
When I click on gapps to download, it just takes me to a google page??? what am i missing?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ÜBER™:
Goo-inside.me it should be the first link ..
[Epic 4G Android Development] AndrewZorn:
Here is gapps, from my Dropbox, try not to overload it:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19774625/gapps-ics-20120304-signed.zip
[Epic 4G Android Development] ylcricky:
Anyone knows how to stop screen unlock and app icon hold vibration? I think this can save some battery.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Here is another gapps mirror if you guys still need it.

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7266763_4620901_66736
[Epic 4G Android Development] jdelano:
Check out the Battery Optimization Guide.
[Epic 4G Android Development] XxLostSoulxX:
Just a general thing here but i love how the XDA news says nothing about our device having CM9 on it but they talk how the Epic Touch is in alpha stage while were in alpha before them and now in beta, whats up with that.

i think our device deserves more attention.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bit1:
The Bluetooth A2DP bug is still present. I submitted a few logcats on the Issue Tracker for it. Missing Bluetooth in my car but hot damn I'm loving CM9 way too much and Beta 0 is running smooth as butter for me so far. Battery life for me is running pretty good. I am using Juice Defender set on Agressive though but it isn't intrusive to me. I know others have different opinions depending how you use your phone
[Epic 4G Android Development] dnathan13:
If you want a thread to be entered as news then you need to click the submit as news tip at the top of the thread... right under the search thread drop-down. If enough people do it or it is big enough news then they will put it in the news area.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Well, you misread the intent in the OP - the purpose was for all battery related discussion to be handled in the thread dedicated to battery life. That includes your question, because it has the word "battery" in it.

These rules aren't meant to be treated like American politics, with loopholes and exceptions littering the landscape and impeding their chance at effectiveness. I realize this is human nature - even religious folk try to qualify and interpret "Thou shalt not kill" to allow for exceptions that don't exist (The Crusades, anyone?) But the beauty of being human is having the free will to overcome our less desirable traits, and the mental capacity to recognize which traits to overcome.

And one point of logic: If an entire thread exists that is dedicated to battery life for CM9, perhaps it is because CM9 has its own particular battery issues and solutions - this should be sufficient to tell you that there are battery issues with this rom, even if we can't say for certain which are from ICS in general.

Also, how would anyone know if the issues were ICS specific versus CM9 specific? We don't have another version of ICS to compare with CM9. Whether the issue is CM9 specific or carried over from ICS, what difference does it make to you? You still have only one ICS option (unless you count MIUI, which is currently piggy-backing development from the CM team, meaning they will have the same issues as CM9 because that's where they get their improvements from). Will you decide any differently depending on the source of issues that you will currently have to handle either way?

You can keep your soup. We prefer cold treats in this thread ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] abonet:
You guys rock!

After installing this on my phone last night and seeing it with my own two eyes, I didn't know whether to **** or go blind :-).

Seriously, I'm impressed and grateful. I now feel like I've extended the life of my phone by another 2 years! Happy to donate to the cause.