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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] TempusFudgeIt:
Non multi-tasker

Ok guys

Tell me what I am missing...

I read an ebook while listening to music, have emails download in the background, and have notifications pop-up at the top of the screen. I can long-press home button and get back to the video I was watching earlier, or to a web-page I was browsing.

Call me a neanderthal (and I was raised during the mainframe days..) but what I am able to experience is more than one-task, isn't it? I love my Note and it does run multiple apps "at the same time"?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jezza333:
I agree with this... what on earth is the practical use of having 3 videos playing at once, surfing and writing memos? I have had 0 need so far and I doubt the need will arise nor be really workable on the Note's size screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeromepearce:
+1 ...............
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] debernardis:
To shorten time to switch appa, I have been using TaskSwitcher: http://market.android.com/details?id=com.shisho.taskswitcher

Single click on home button to list tasks, differentiating between open and recently closed apps; click on app to bring to foreground, long click to close it. You can also have widgets, like a simple launcher. Sweet!

Ernesto de Bernardis

[from my Galaxy Note]
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mscion:
Will have to try TaskSwitcher. For now I just have a shortcut to task manager on most screens. One thing not mentioned about Wave Launcher is that you can actually go directly from one app to another with a single flick of your finger! The app you were using is paused so you can immediately return to where you left off by using Wave Launcher again.

While I wish I could make multiple windows on the Note Screen, in the short term, what I would like to see, and I think the Galaxy Note screen is big enough for this, is the possiblity of putting two terminals, or, say run polaris with two windows, side by side, so that I can cut and paste between the two.

For those that have ubuntu on the Galaxy note, how good is the mutitasking performance? Laggy?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] beestee:
I have it and I use it for exactly what you are saying it does not do. I have set my internet browser default to overskreen and now anytime I click an external link from within another app, I get a browser window on top that can be closed or minimized to return to the application from which the link was opened, be it email, xda, pulse, whatever.

Incredibly useful app in my opinion.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SilverHedgehog:
Back on iOS, I used a hack called Backgrounder, which allowed apps that were in the background to stay in foreground state. Combined with the limited multitasking provided by iOS, it was really great.

I could make my browser stay in the foreground state, while something like Twitter would have limited background activity, just downloading new tweets and etc.

Sadly, I can't find anything like that for Android...

Always having true multitasking is not exactly a good thing. While some apps do need it, like a browser, other ones really don't, like a social networking client - for those, caching and a limited background sync ability would do just fine.

However being able to switch between backgrounding types at will would be amazing.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Isriam:
i love pulling up 2 websites side by side and doing a stare and compare between them. you can't do that in any other app easily like overskreen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] samuelzero1991:
i think the origional muslti tasking is already enough, anyway thanks for sharing:D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Jip-Hop:
I'm sorry if I didn't express myself clear enough.

Yes OverSkreen let's you run apps on the screen without killing them.

But this is default Android multitasking behavior, nothing OverSkreen specific.

My sentence out of context looks false, but what I said in the next sentence supports my statement, and you confirm it with your post as well:

"[OverSkreen] has to do with seeing these multiple apps running on the screen at the same time."

That's exactly the example you gave (seeing XDA, email, pulse behind the browser window that just popped up).

"Multitasking" is already in Android, OverSkreen lets you see more things simultaneously but does't change how Multitasking works in Android.

It's the same way WaveLauncher behaves, I see the app I was using in the background and WaveLauncher just floats over everything allowing me to quickly switch between apps. So I see WaveLauncher and my other app on the screen (same principle).

In the other operating systems I spoke about Multitasking is handled differently and in my opinion they handle it a lot better.

Does this sound credible?
[Motorola Atrix 2] ari197:
I'm trying to create a tunnel so that I could bypass my company proxy when connected to their WiFi .. I've managed to do that now the problem is the name resolution..

I know in Linux we have the /etc/resolv.conf to tell the system which DNS to use, I couldn't find the same file on our Atrix2. I've created one in /system/etc but I don't think the ROM is following that file ..
[Motorola Atrix 2] wods:
you can try proxydroid. It has DNS proxy option, which may works for you.

But if you just want to change DNS setting, you can manually configure static IP and DNS address in waln setting.
[Motorola Atrix 2] ari197:
hmm .. I couldn't find how to configure IP and DNS manually on my WiFi setting ..
[Motorola Atrix 2] mtnlion:
wireless - wireless settings - menu - advanced settings
[Motorola Atrix 2] ari197:
hmm .. than it'll affect all wifi connection .. plus, I need to manually insert IP, Netmask and GWs .. all I want is to change the DNS ..
[Motorola Atrix 2] wods:
You can try "DNS setting" app, it can input the dhcp IP address for you.

But I'm not sure if the name is right.
[Motorola Atrix 2] ari197:
Thanks .. it works :)

I'm using "DNS Change" from the market ...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] eollie:
Ok in FB's kernel thread I asked is link2sd could be creating reboots when linking a app during a automatic update. FB asked why I was using link2sd.

So after some discussion Im confused. And not wanting to clutter his thread anymore Im creating this one.

My understanding is link2sd uses your current ext partition and puts apps in the sxt partition then symbolic links the app to the original location. That way you gain that much space on your internal.

FB says the built in apps2sd of android does that already. But I was told all it does is move the app from the internal to external (sdcard). This is possible even without a ext partition, I know because several people with the Optimus V do not use link2sd or anything like it. They just use the built in app mover.

When I had my Optimus V I used this data2ext but I do not think it would work for our phone since its written for CM7. WIth that my interal memory showed up as however much my ext partition was minus the apps. What it did is trick the OS into thinking the ext partition was really the internal storage.

My question is am I right in how link2sd works or am I misunderstanding?

Is there a version of the data2ext that works on the SGS4G roms we have and I just cant find it?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Here's some reading for you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=919326

apps2sd does NOT require repartitioning your sdcard and it's an Android 2.2+ feature.

links2sd requires your sdcard to have at least 2 partitions + formatting your sdcard, and is a 3rd party application.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] eollie:
Ok I understand that. Don't we need a ext partition anyway? IM trying to wrap my head around this but I'm still confused how the built in moves the app to the ext partition.

I'll read more of that thread tomorrow stupid ISP OS doing maintenance and my net is crapping out.

Vroom Vroom
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
First of all, what do you mean by "ext partition"?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Jerry D:
I think what eollie is looking for is what we had on Froyo. Remember dsexton's ext4 guide? We could create a second (ext4) partition on our EXTERNAL Sdcard and use Link2sd to move apps there..

On Froyo I had a second 1.5 GB ext4 partition on my EXTERNAL sdcard and used Link2sd app to move my apps to that partition. It worked Great and I miss having it on Gingerbread. I could not get dsexton's guide to work on Gingerbread at all. It caused me all kinds of problems. Even soft bricks..

Sorry if I'm wrong eollie.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jigglynuts:
On my old Milestone xt720 I used link2sd primarily before 2.2 was available for the phone. It involved setting up an ext4 partition as well as a linuxswap partition.

At this point ... seeing as we have gingerbread which already moves most apps to sd card ... the only advantage I can really see is that when you use links2sd you can move absolutely any app to sdcard (keyboards, alarm clock, ect) that would not normally be moved.

Now one thing to be cautious about when using links2sd is some apps will not work properly when on the sd card. This is especially true with apps that have widgets. For example - if you move your digital clock to sd card the clock widget will not display.

I don't know if this will be helpful but I just thought I would offer my input.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] eollie:
You are correct.

The link I posted is what I used on my Optimus V. It tricked the phone into thinking that partition was the internal memory.

Like jiggleynuts (that name kills me) said you have to be careful with what apps you put on the sdcard. I was using that but when I update apps it would move them to the sdcard if they could be. And my apps that have widgets I use were breaking cause of it.

Again if we can use something like the data2ext I linked to then I would scrap link2sd faster than you could blink. I hate having to use a app when there is a alternative like the data2ext stuff.

Am I wrong in thinking the ext support we have is the same as what the op in the thread I linked is talking about?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Arhtard:
eollie -

did you ever get the data2ext mod working for the t959v?

i remember you from the optimus v forums last year.

correct me if i'm wrong but we used the data2ext mod with bumblebee and harmonia? i'm considering trying that data2ext v7 mod on this device. i'm actually really surprised that mod isn't being used with this device like it was with the O-V. Both have limited internal memory. maybe i've not learned enough about this device and it isn't capable of utilizing the mod. i'm kinda curious why darktremors app2sd mod isn't used either. its an easy option in the kitchen. either way i'm curious what you've found out or experienced with these mods. i do know link2sd works with this device, so i'm assuming data2ext and darktremor app2sd would too.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] eollie:
I replied to your pm. But Ill answer here too, I never found a conclusive answer. So I just move apps using the built in android app2sd function. If there happens to be a app that needs images loaded at boot like launcher themes or the such I just move it to internal memory.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Arhtard:
ok cool. i may try it. i dunno.

thanks for your response.
[Networking] HappyKhicken:
I was just wondering what the opinions of T-mobile was for the members here. I have been on a Radioshack/AT&T employee plan since 2006 and even though I quit in 2008 I have continued to be on this plan. It was amazing (2000 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data for $25 a month), however I just received notice today from my old AT&T rep that I will finally be taken off it. I am currently looking at switching to one of the major US carriers and am looking at the plan prices. I want to stick with an Android phone, so I'll need data. Verizon's cheapest plan looks to be $89.99/month for what I want (450 minutes, unlimited text, 2GB of data), with AT&T and Sprint's around $10 cheaper. I rarely use minutes (average of 250 a month), but I text quite a bit so I would want unlimited text. I also don't use data much. My max in the past year has been 134MB, however I know if I have a faster phone I will probably use data more. I was looking at T-mobile's plans and noticed they are drastically cheaper. $49.99/month for 500 minutes, unlimited text, and 2GB of data. Is their service much worse than AT&T, even though they are both GSM? I'd hate to switch to them and end up hating my service.

So in short, does anybody who has had AT&T and T-mobile notice a major difference between the two? Would I be better with sticking with Verizon or AT&T or are they all about equal nowadays?

Thanks in advance!
[Networking] bleach168:
I recommend you buy an unlocked phone (hello Nexus!) and get a sim card from Straight Talk. They are a MVNO that runs on the AT&T network. I believe plans are $45.
[Networking] Snlich:
It always depends on your area. For years I used Cingular(now At&t) and I had pretty decent service. About 5 years ago, T-Mobile was carrying a phone I wanted, so I decided to switch. (This was before I knew about the glory of unlocking ;P). T-Mobile's network was so horrible I never (read:NEVER) got service within a 2 mile radius of my home, and about the same at work.

I couldn't make a phone call with out it dropping, so I was forced to switch back to At&t. The guy at T-Mobile pulled up a "coverage map" and it claimed I should have the best service right in the area I needed it. So it was a bunch of bull if you ask me.

My suggestion has always been to talk to people who you know in the area of where you will be using your phone. I know some people from around my area who get great reception with T-Mobile and get awful service with At&t. I honestly have no idea how it happens, but it does.

Another route would be to get the phone to test (perhaps one of their pre-paid, no contract options?) and use it for a few days. If you are unhappy, simply return it. If you are returning it because of bad coverage they HAVE to take it back and give you a full refund.

I still think the asking people around the area is the best option. Perhaps you could give a general location, and ask people on the forums who are located near by to give you some of their opinions on their coverage? Its probably the best way to be sure, if you ask me.
[Networking] synaesthetic:
T-Mobile was great to me in the East Bay area of northern California, until last November, when they instituted traffic-shaping policies that meant every single JPEG image on the internet was horribly compressed into an ugly mess of artifacts and banded gradients.

I really miss T-Mobile's HSPA+ speed. AT&T just can't quite get as fast. But I'll take a 20-25% slower connection that isn't adulterated over a faster one that's been tampered with.
[Networking] Sykotron:
I've had ok experiences with T-Mobile. When I lived in Atlanta there were many areas where I simply didn't get a signal, but that's probably due to to the terrain. As suggested you should probably ask others in the area where you will be how their coverage is. In regards to plans, I'm on a contracted unlimited talk/text, 2GB data for $90. I'll be modifying that at the soonest opportunity... I guess at least the phone itself was cheaper at the time :/
[Networking] Skew01:
Thanks for info!
[Networking] cdchris12:
I've had T-Mobile for a few years now, and I can't wait to leave this company. I'm currently in the process of jumping ship. I've driven from California to Tennessee, Tennessee to Iowa, Iowa to Michigan, and back again. I've never seen such garbage coverage from a cellular company. I have a 4G compatible phone, but I've only ever seen 4G when I fly through Chicago's O'Hare Airport. Their 3G coverage area is also terrible.

So, Cons are as follows:

4G: What 4G?

3G: Doesn't exist

2G: Covers the entire country with data speeds barely faster than dial-up, unless you live more than 25 miles outside a big city, or in North Dakota in general.

Reception: It's a well known fact that T-Mobile cannot maintain or even guarantee any sort of standard level of service indoors.

Pros:

Pricing: They are cheap for a reason.

"Unlimited" Data Plans: They "throttle" them after a certain amount of time, and it's throttling to less than 2G speeds. In fact, you should try being throttled while trying to drive across the country using Google maps...

Customer Service: The only pleasant part of my time with T-Mobile.
[Networking] Babydollll:
Those may have been YOUR experiences and I'm not discounting that BUT....

I have FIVE LINES with T-Mobile

NEVER HAVE I HAD an issue with signal or coverage indoors.

Full bars in my home, excellent signal (68dBm-72dBm).

Very good coverage in Jersey City, NJ where I live.

My husband whom travels all over the tri-state area (NY,NJ,CT) doesn't have any reception issues either.

Fast HSPA+ (yes, it's a 3.5G technology) speeds depending on the device used. (I have the Amaze,,Sensation and, a Nexus S on T-Mobile ATM)

Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
[Networking] eksasol:
I completely disagree with cdchris12 however I always lived in area with good T-Mobile coverage and their throttle speed is fast enough to view website and use Google Maps. I do find that depends on the phone, usually older ones can have problem keeping data and gps in door, unless you're next to a window. With newer big phones with good antenna is not so much a problem.

I'd say get an unlocked phone and go with T-Mobile prepaid $50/month plan which give you unlimited everything and throttle to 2G after 2GB of usage. Unless you need roaming which isn't available with prepaid. I have family and friends who use ATT 3G and T-Mobile 3G network is always faster to me. In fact, with a Galaxy SII with dual HSPA+ antenna I get speed excess of 20mbps. Straight Talk has the same plan for $45 I believe and they go through T-Mobile network.

T-Mobile also allows you to tether which ATT don't, although recently I heard they changed that for people with $70 plan.

You might also find this useful: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21604722&postcount=2

To get T-Mobile 3G you need a phone that support 1700/2100Mhz band.
[Networking] synaesthetic:
In the East Bay area T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds are really quite fast. I often saw 8-9Mbps downstream on my Galaxy Nexus before I switched to AT&T.

Unfortunately a fast internet connection is useless if your carrier alters all images on the internet so everything looks like dogpoo.
[Networking] eksasol:
I have no idea what you are talking about, you might be accessing website through some kind of proxy like Opera Mini/Turbo. I know you will reply that that isn't the case, but I really can't think why that would be the case, but it has to be through some kind of proxy. I also notice some roms are set to connect to SimpleMobile by default instead of T-Mobile, which also causes problems. With Opera Mobile using desktop user agent, it looks exactly like my PC, and I've tried 5 different Android phones with T-Mobile. I haven't heard of millions other T-Mobile users complaining about degrading pictures quality from browser.
[Networking] synaesthetic:
It's a proxy, but the proxy is on T-Mobile's end, not mine. It's a transparent proxy and it works exactly like the Opera Mini proxy, but I can't choose to turn it off. Connecting through a VPN would obviously fix the problem, but there's no easy way to force Android to auto-connect to a VPN every time I open the browser.

Trust me, I was thorough. The user agent wasn't an issue. The APN was set correctly. I spent over ten hours on the phone with T-Mobile's technical support and I hard reset the phones on both lines multiple times, restored to unrooted stock multiple times, and nothing fixed the issue. When I bought my Galaxy Nexus, I tested it before unlocking the bootloader and rooting it, and had the same exact issue.

Just to be absolutely sure, I even tested the issue on an iOS device (iPhone 3GS) and a WP7 device (HD7) with the same results--heavily compressed JPEG images when viewing any unencrypted page.

It no longer matters since I left T-Mobile for AT&T, which uses no such proxy.

Edit: I should note that I'm not the only one with this problem. Every person I know in the SF Bay area who uses T-Mobile has this problem. It may be automatic traffic shaping algorithms used on a tower-by-tower basis (which would explain why some people don't have the problem), but yeah, it's all over the place here. I tested demo phones in every T-Mobile store I could easily reach in the area--three in SF, two in Oakland, one in Berkeley and one in El Cerrito, and they all exhibit the same problem.

For example:

Actual quality, downloaded over wifi (180kb)

Very low quality, downloaded over T-Mobile 3G (55kb)
[Networking] cajunflavoredbob:
Yea, the compression thing on TMo is a well known thing. It doesn't bother me personally.

To throw in my experience with AT&T/T-Mobile here, I review phones as a side project. I've noted several differences in the two networks. Most are well known things that others have commented on. T-Mobile EASILY has better customer service. They always have. They pride themselves in their outstanding customer care. As long as you aren't being retarded or yelling at them, they will do everything possible to make you a happy customer.

As far as coverage goes, check the maps. AT&T has a bigger network footprint. T-Mobile has better network speeds. I get better speeds on T-Mobile 3G than on AT&T LTE. Obviously this is very dependent on location, but that's how it is here.

If you have coverage from T-Mobile and don't mind the picture compression, I strongly suggest it. I lived without 3G from T-Mobile for 2 and a half years while I was in the Army on base in Georgia. EDGE speeds are respectable from them. Their customer service and my ridiculously old $50 unlimited everything plan kept me going.

T-Mobile does throttle users once you reach your limits. I've never been throttled personally, but I've maxed out a test SGS2 just to see what it's like. You are still able to browse the web. No videos or streaming music, though. Speed tests put the throttling at around 70-110 Kbps. This is within EDGE speeds. Their unthrottled EDGE speeds are between 160-320 Kbps here. By comparison, GPRS speed drops down to about 20-40 Kbps.

My preference is for good customer service. T-Mobile has always been there for me, even when things got tight for me. I see no reason to leave them now. Look at the news just within the last 6 months. AT&T couldn't care less about its customers. It doesn't change anything until it gets sued.
[Networking] Babydollll:
This^^^^ %110. That being said, I've only experienced image compression in NYC, in a few areas (mostly midtown Manhattan). I live in Jersey City, NJ and haven't experienced it here. Even with image compression, images don't look THAT BAD....at least IMO.
[Networking] synaesthetic:
For me, they looked so bad I was willing to pay $40 more a month to AT&T in order to make it go away permanently. The other line on my account is used by my partner, and she would frequently read manga raws on her phone. When the image compression started, the Japanese characters in the raw manga scans became totally illegible. She was, to put it mildly, rather upset. This is probably 90% of why she owns a smartphone and is willing to pay for it, so I'm sure you can see the issue here.

For me it was an aesthetic issue, but for her it was a functionality issue. In any case, we pay a little more a month, but we also get more--and I personally prefer AT&T's method of handling data. At least on AT&T if I want more than 3GB a month I can pay to get extra GBs. On T-Mobile, you'd get throttled regardless and EDGE in the East Bay is completely unusable.

I would have stayed with T-Mobile had I been able to figure out how to automatically log into a VPN every time I opened an app that pulled image assets from the web (the browser, the Android Market, etc). Unfortunately, the only solution I found also wakelocked the phone permanently, preventing it from sleeping and killing any semblance of good battery life.