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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
There's a fallacy here the Apple created and everyone now seems to follow: that a capacitive touch screen is necessarily better for all mobile devices. Sure, it doesn't require a stylus, but it's also very inaccurate and imprecise. Modern mobile OSs are simply designed around their limitations (e.g., large buttons).

Recent Windows Tablet PCs that use active digitizers and pens (most of which do NOT require batteries) offer excellent precision and accuracy, pressure sensitivity, etc. My four-year-old Dell Latitude XT also has a capacitive layer for touch (support 2-finger multitouch), for what it's worth. And, Windows 7 is excellent with such a stylus, offering a responsive screen, tablet-specific shortcuts (e.g., multi-selecting files in Windows Explorer), etc.

I'd say that a Windows 7 Tablet PC with a modern digitizer could easily make for a great experience with just a few improvements, and is a very good experience today. No, it's not optimized for touch, but then again there's far more precision and control with the current stylus-based metaphor. The problem is, Steve Jobs convinced everyone that needing a stylus is a bad thing, and so now we have over-simplified touch-based interfaces that, while seeming more elegant (I mean, we just TOUCH our screens with our FINGERS and they respond!) are actually quite limited functionally.

Now, I see the advantage of touch screens on smartphones. They're too small to make even a good active digitizer and pen functional. And I think those make good use of touch-optimized user interfaces. But tablets are a different story. As I said earlier, Microsoft should be shot for neglecting this form factor for so long--they had a freaking goldmine on their hands, and blew it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>The problem is, Steve Jobs convinced everyone that needing a stylus is a bad thing

Quit the inane blame game. MS' Tablet PC & convertibles were around long before the iPad. They failed because of MS' mistakes, not because Jobs "dupes" users. I note you didn't mention how much that Latitude XT cost, or its battery life, or how heavy it was. Or, more to point, how useful it was to the normal user who just want to browse the web, do light wordprocessing, and watch movies (no social back in those days).

Here's a refresher (for the system reviewed below): $3640, 3.12 lbs, 3-4 hrs use.

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4323

Resistive touch tech has its strong points. Its weak point is that you need a pointed stick, and fingers (which aren't pointed) are more convenient to use. As you yourself pointed out, having capacitive touch doesn't exclude more precise input methods, eg HTC Flyer and Thinkpad Tablet. That those differentiations didn't take was because there is no mainstream demand for precise input on mobile devices. All mobile OS UIs, including Win8's Metro, are designed for fingers.

BTW, for those who can't be bothered to read the article, the patent is applied not for the detachable screen, but for the dedicated SoC in the dock. So, you'd get high performance in dock mode, and battery-conserving mode when undocked.

It's not a very practical idea, since you'd incur the cost of the additional SoC and supporting components--effectively doubling the component cost. It'd be good for a premium device w/o worry for price competition. But that's not today's market. Win8 will have its work cut out to compete against the iPad price-wise.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I believe I did blame Microsoft, quite strongly. And yes, back then component costs were higher, including ultra-low voltage Intel X86 processors and small form-factor notebooks in general. Also, you picked a very expensive example (I paid quite a bit less for my Latitude XT). Today, Tablet PCs can be had for under $1000.

Also, note that the HTC and Lenovo tablets with pens don't use standard capacitive screens for the pen input. They use active digitizers from N-trig, which are far more precise than the typical capacitive stylus.

My point about Jobs's role in the whole thing is how he argued against the stylus in a very disingenuous attack on Tablet PCs of the time, and just as important how nobody called him on it. But that's a different debate.

I'd be happy to have a device with the productivity of Windows 7 tablets and active digitizer/pens (full Office apps, an excellent notetaking app like OneNote, etc.), with the same battery life advantages and, yes, simpler user interface of iOS and ICS tablets for casual use. Perhaps Win 8 will offer that combination. I wonder, though, because I don't believe there's a low-power processor out yet that can handle the kind of background handwriting recognition that Window 7 Tablet PCs can handle.

And note that Tablet PCs were just fine for the things you things you mention--Web browsing, light word processing, watching movies--as today's tablets. They weren't as light, and they didn't offer the battery life. But that's because the technology wasn't there yet. And in fact, in terms of running X86 apps (i.e., more than today's exceedingly simple mobile apps), we're only this year getting the Intel chipsets to make it possible. I'm still unclear on whether the ARM version of Win 8 will run X86 apps, but I'm pretty sure it won't.

My point was that Tablet PCs were incredibly productive devices, far more so than any modern tablet made today. And I stick by that assertion 100%.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ickk:
Calling asus copycats is ridiculous. There were keyboards for tablets before - yes. But none anywhere near as intuitive & featured as the tf101. Look at the motion le1700 for a perfect example of keyboard tablet fails. Ipad has tried. HP has tried. No one has come close to making a tablet with a keyboard as well as asus.

it really is lame when people lose credit for properly implementing good ideas.

windows 8 looks more and more disappointing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I agree with you about the Transformer, it's a great implementation. Saying Windows 8 looks disappointing seems like a non sequitor here, though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ickk:
Microsoft is missing the entire point of the tablet. No one wants half a device, especially when the preformance cut is coming from the half of device you use. The power needs to be in the tablet itself, not the dock. All the tablet optimized gaming will be terrible if you need the keyboard attached to unlock the true potential.

The article makes it seem like the transformer is at a loss because it doesn't give you more preformance when you dock. The point of the dock isn't preformance, it's battery life and word processing with more expansion slots! You don't need more power forword processing or pulling files off a usb drive lol.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I see. Well, this is just one patent that Microsoft may or may not be planning to make (far more patents are written than are actually made into real products). It really has nothing to do with Windows 8, which I guarantee will be on all kinds of different form factors before it's all done.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] erikk:
And calling a microsoft tablet that has a keyboard dock a transformer prime copycat might even be more ridiculous. If you'd actually read the remark "calling asus [a] copycat" correctly you'd see I hadn't actually called Asus copycats:

I don't believe Asus was a copycat, but if you're ONLY taking into account the tablet with detachable keyboard form factor, then yes they copied an idea someone else had come up with before them.

I think Asus definitely has done a great job implementing this good idea, and they deserve a ton of credit for that. But don't give them credit for coming up with the original idea and taking that credit away from the people that did.

And as pointed out, the new idea for this Microsoft tablet patent is to have 2 separate SoCs (we'll see if it's a good one or not once it's out, my guess is not). Which the prime doesn't do.

Windows 8 could be the greatest thing to come to tablets, mobile computing and the "post-PC world", the ultimate merging of a unified OS across all your computers, the death knell to Apple or the opposite, the last desperate failure of Microsoft in the mobile world and dawn of Apple domination across all devices; or more likely just another decent option in the computing world where we get to choose which one suits our own personal style the most.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Agreed. Far more is made about this whole being first thing. Apple wasn't the first with the smartphone (although they did some things to make it better, while in my opinion obliterating some of what was good about previous versions), ASUS isn't the first to make a keyboard dock/tablet combo (and I don't think HP was first with theirs, either), etc. Innovation doesn't mean just coming up with something uniquely original--sometimes it means taking a good idea and making it better (or just different).

Even THIS idea isn't new. Lenovo had a notebook/tablet hybrid they intro'd at CES in 2012, the IdeaPad U1. It was a full-fledged Windows notebook in the base, and the "screen" was a detachable tablet with an ARM SoC. They never made it as an actual commercial product, I don't think.

I actually doubt that this Microsoft patent will ever see a shipping product. As I mentioned, far more ideas are patented than are actually made into real products. It's possible, but somehow I doubt it.
[Android Apps and Games] stevew84:
Is there a site, or possibly here, that has a collection of ringtones/notifications from other android devices?

I'm a fan of the clean digital sounding tones, not the musical type tones or where instruments are used. I like the old 16bit type stuff from NES, the random beeps and tones is what I look for.

Also a very clean digital phone for my ringer, which android doesn't really have.
[Android Apps and Games] PlusAndroid:
Here are some links to download ringtones :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=639385

http://www.addictivetips.com/?attachment_id=40822

http://www.justmobilephone.com/android-ringtone-collection/
[Touch HD General] ahmedao1:
hi

i have used olinex 1.56 hard spl after hard spl phone screen has been black.Phone start but nothing appear on screen i have tried many rom but same thing.Can any one help me please?
[Touch HD General] Bodisson:
Have you tried to revert back to stock ROM?
[Touch HD General] HTC0017:
Reset and press volume up and down button together.
[Touch HD General] Simon_WM:
Can you get into the bootloader ?

Do thus Combination " POWER + VOL-DOWN "

:cool:
[Nook Touch General] brendan10211:
I have a rooted NST. Sometimes, when I search for an app that I know exists, it does not show up in the market. It also says the app is incompatible with my nook. I remember seeing a post somewhere here to a chrome addon that allows you to download the .apk directly from the market (piracy.. I know, but this is for a good cause) but I can't find it. Sorry if this does not make any sense, normally I am good at grammar, but.. yeah.

Thanks!

:D
[Nook Touch General] brendan10211:
Why does everyone else get helped, and not me?
[Nook Touch General] bobstro:
Sheesh, dude. Give us some time. 8 hours is NOT a long time when you're waiting on a world-wide community that works on a different clock than you do!

There are a couple of things (at least) that can cause an app not to show in market. To know exactly what's up, you'd have to tell us

which

apps.

The first thing to keep in mind is that the NST is running Android 2.1 'eclair'. A LOT of apps -- many of my favorites -- have been written for Android 2.2. 'froyo' or above. These probably will not work, no matter what you try.

Other apps care about the device type. Some are hardcoded to only work on specific devices. You can sometimes get these to work by spoofing your device to appear as another. Other times, you can download the .apk on another device, then transfer it to your NST. There's no guarantee these will work, however.

Depending on how you configured your device, you may simply have to clear market data and cache to restore full visibility (subject to the above constraints).

List a couple of specific apps and we might be able to give you a better answer.
[Nook Touch General] Googie2149:
I know the guy IRL, and apps I can get on my Nook don't show up in his market, whether it's the app or market.android.com. I have no idea what's going on.
[Nook Touch General] brendan10211:
Which is why all I need is the link to that chrome addon that allows you to download the .apk from the market.

List of apps:

Root uninstaller (the free one)

XDA Developers (both of them)
[Nook Touch General] cceerrtt:
Don't be so lazy, did you ever heard about google?

It took me 8 sec to find it.

http://codekiem.com/2012/02/24/apk-downloader/
[Nook Touch General] brendan10211:
Sorry, I looked and could not find it.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] abhibnl:
Well guys, it's not a big issue but it always help finding out whether the headsets/headphone is connected or not. There isn't any icon in status bar showing it on SGA. any solution?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] wassupadi:
the headset icon is shown in the status bar only if you are useing cm7 rom or any rom based on it and also if it is enabled in the cm7 settings....so first check which rom are you useing....
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
Download headseticon from market
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] abhibnl:
Well i'm on stock rom.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] abhibnl:
Thanx bud. :-)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Spex:
Give him thanms then -.-

no need to say ty
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] abhibnl:
sorry mate and ty given :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andhraguy4u1982:
Hi guys .. I have a problem with power button on my samsung captivate. It became a SOFT BUTTON somehow. Now if I just TOUCH it, it does its functions, I need NOT PRESS it. So when I put it in my pocket, the power buttons activates so many times and does wierd things and battery will be drained much faster because of that.

I flashed many roms(froyo,gingerbread, ICS) and tried to go back to stock using odin3(tried different versions) but nothing fixed this issue. I searched a lot in the internet and this forum but couldnt find a solution to this specific problem.

Please let me know if anyone had similar issues and how you fixed it.. I am out of Samsungs 1 year warranty and att's 1 year warranty also.

Thanks,

Sri
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mawaisz:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1193057
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boe:
If you had to do it again, would you get the nexus?

I'm definitely going to Verizon - just not sure if I should get the nexus as someone just pointed out two issues I hadn't read up on - one is signal quality issues and one is a speaker mic issue. I'm not sure how pevalent these issues are or if they were with the first batch of this phone.

Any experience you have would be helpful as I've only seen the phone at the store - haven't done much research but would like to switch today as today is the end of my billing cycle.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cwoggon:
Issues:

Radio (Signal)

Soft Speaker

Weak Vibrate

Accessories (POGO car dock from Samsung)

Even though I have been affected by all of these things I would still purchase the GNex again given my current options. Some signal issues seem to have been patched up with the 4.0.4 update, but I'm of the belief that the radio in the GNex just isn't as good as radios in other phoens (read: Motorola). Some have been able to address the speaker issues with Volume+ and the vibrate issues using LightFlow (custom vibrations and whatnot). The accessory support is going to be something that you'll have to live with because I don't even think God knows that status of Samsung's accessories...

I got my brother/mother the Razr Maxx (BOGO) and when I was going through the phone with them I couldn't believe how disgusted I was by MotoBlur and all of the 'bonus' applications. I would have recommended that they both get the GNex, but they often find themselves in poor 3G areas and I didn't want them to have to deal with signal problems. On top of that the fact that the Razr was BOGO really sealed the deal.

My second choice would probably be the Rezound, but I find Sense almost as bad as MotoBlur, so that isn't saying a whole lot.

Per usual, the dev support of Nexus devices is second to none and this is probably one of the few phones out that is guaranteed(?) to see JB. Other advantages over other devices include a beautiful screen and NFC.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boe:
Thanks. I think I might get the nexus - give it a whirl and return it right away if I experience dropped calls or voice quality issues. I had the HTC EVO 3D (3 times replaced and they all sucked for that reason). I ended up getting the ET4G which is a perfect phone - just a horrible speed on Sprint.

I used 4000 minutes last month so call quality is very important to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] audibalso:
yes buy the gnex

Yes go for the gnexus. Unlocked bootloader is so key.

Remember not all phones are made the same. Some phones do have better chips inside than others. For example, I bought one for me and my wife one launch day. A week later she complained that her signal was consistently weaker than mine. We went back to verizon and got her a replacement phone. Now she has slightly better reception than mine (only noticeable in very weak reception areas when signal cuts in and out).

I don't experience many of the issues with the radio and gps like many have reported. It seems very on par with every other device I've tried. No issues here with call quality (I pretty much always use a wired headset).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hexxenhammer:
I love my G-Nex.

I've never had any issues with signal or dropped calls. The bars showing up are lower, but in line with what the Real Signal app used to show me on my Galaxy 1. YMMV etc, etc, different signal in diff cities, what have you...

Ringer volume is lower than other phones. So what? On my Galaxy 1 if the ringer was all the way up you could hear it the next county over. Too loud. The volume on the G-Nex is where I'd leave it even if it could go louder.

Vibrate is weaker. Again so what, I hated how my old phone practically vibrated it's way across the table, scaring the crap out of me.

No issues with GPS, lock on is fast.

And why would you want anything but ICS? Not that you couldn't root and flash on some other phone, but so much easier and not even really necessary with this phone. I'm unlocked and rooted, but still stock ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] audibalso:
gnex

there are apps to increase volume. I think there are also ways to increase vibrate but I haven't looked in to that since it's a non issue for me.

it's an unlocked android... there's ways around almost everything.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
I love my Gnex. First one I got dropped 4G signal like every couple of minutes. My new one holds signal just fine so I am thinking it was a bad device.

My wife's Rezound definitely gets a stronger signal in bad coverage areas. My house has bad coverage for any provider but I can make calls just fine with Verizon and my Gnex. I do get a week 3G signal and sometimes pop in and out of 4G. My wife gets a signal that actually keeps 4G throughout my house and her dbm proves her signal is better as well. Still like my Gnex better.

Also, for the post that listed weak vibrate, check out contact vibrate. Lets you make you own vibration patterns to use throughout your system and it is stronger. I was almost going to return the phone just for this issue as I keep it on vibrate all day and couldn't feel it. This app save the phone for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chjade84:
I did do it again and at the full $750 (after tax) price after I washed my first one. :o

So now I've spent an even $1,000 to have the Nexus - and yes it's worth it, provided you spend some time returning phones with inadequate screens until you get a nice one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cwoggon:
Better too loud then too soft. You can always turn the volume below its maximum level, but good luck turning it up beyond that point...

Right now the vibrate is completely useless, so again it would be better if it was too strong.

Just because things work okay for one person doesn't mean they are acceptable for everyone else. Don't get me wrong, I like my GNex, but there are some things that are simply inexcusable...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] audibalso:
a

Right... but as mentioned above there are apps you can easily install to both increase volume and increase vibrate...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ekinnee:
I concur.

The only thing I'm noticing on mine, which I crack flashed for about a month with it, is that I'm getting menu bar burn in.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boe:
I can wait one more month if Verizon is getting anything better in the next month?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] njKeever:
I would definitely get it again. No, it's not perfect, but it is pretty amazing! I resolved that after my Revolution that I would stick with the Nexus line in the future. Unlocked bootloader and amazing dev community outweighs just about anything else.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] davidstech11:
Give it a try. If you don't like it return it. I would get the Galaxy Nexus again. The HTC Rezound is another good choice. That is if you don't mind all the bloat that comes with it. I hate spending all that money on my smartphone and having to hack it to remove all the garbage they don't want me to remove. HTC is providing a way to unlock the bootloader if that interests you though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boe:
So far I like my GN and Verizon -

I'm missing a few features that were on my last two phones -

•Scheduling exchange to go from push to sync only at intervals after hours to reduce battery drain

•Transparency for the top indicators make it much harder to read - e.g. % of battery life remaining (battery indicator pro) or vmail or email icon.

•Not having the number of new emails, text messages, missed calls etc. actually showing up on the icons will be sorely missed.

On the plus side, my speeds are about 4 times faster on 3G and 20 times faster on 4G than my old ET4G.

And I'm not sure if it is the phone or the carrier compression difference but my clients say I sound clearer (using the same BT headset)

I still haven't learned to NOT click on the screen to add new shortcuts

In two weeks I'll know if I suffer some concerns others have posted but so far I'm good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eman3316@optonline.net:
Welcome aboard! I switched from Sprint a few weeks to a GN and Verizon and I am very pleased. If your phone is good now and your not dropping data then you should be good to go.

The good about being on Verizon, I never have to worry now if I wip out my phone wherever I am and worry if I will be in a 4G area or if 3G will take 10 minutes to load a webpage. Those problems are a thing of the past.

Someone asked me to find a video on Youtube for them. I was finally able to whip out my phone confidently knowing I wont have a problem streaming it!!! Sure enough I was streaming without a hiccup!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Buddy Revell:
Strangely, the vibrate on the GSM version is noticeably stronger.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chjade84:
You could try ADW Launcher and ADW Notifier. Gmail unread counts don't work since Google took out the API for reading them but you could still get text and call counts on the icons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
Yes I would get it again. Manufacturer skins annoy the hell out of me now. Gnex or iPhone are the only devices I would consider and because I love flexibility and LTE the Nexus is currently the best phone for me.