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[Desire HD Android Development] q:):
G'day

Thanks to you and the crew at Blackout and other contributors for this ROM. I'm loving it.

I have a problem though with downloading from Google Play and I'm not sure if it's with the ROM or not.

I'm unable to download apps over my mobile data connection. I can only download them at home using wi-fi. I've looked in the Google Play settings and I have the "update over wi-fi only" unchecked, but it makes no difference.

Can you please help me out?

Thanks,

q: )

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Honestly, I have never been able to send MMS by Wifi. My carrier stated that MMS can only be sent by data. I'm surprised you can
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
i believe this may be carrier or even Plan specific, my daughter has Duet Wireless and can send mms over WiFi but her husband has sprint and it specifically tells him it needs a data connection to send mms.
[Desire HD Android Development] cdordon:
Been following all along. Just tried to flash this, and it was on boot ani for about 10 minutes. I formatted all partitions in 4ext before flashing. I then tried factory reset after flashing, and got the same thing. I did not restore any apps from my previous ROM. Did I do something wrong?

Sent from my Cellular Telephone, which can do magic things over the internet.
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Thanks for that. At least data can send with this ROM even though data and signal closes for a few seconds.
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
If you got the bootanimation all is well. I really doubt it was 10mins, but first boot takes long time. easily over 5 at least i think, or at least it feels like it watching lol.
[Desire HD Android Development] ServeTT:
Camcorder works great for me. Can you do this feature optional ?? I always put my DHD in pocket and this feature is not comfortable for me.
[Desire HD Android Development] cdordon:
It really was close to 10 if not at least, it lasted the whole break at work lol

Sent from my Cellular Telephone, which can do magic things over the internet.
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
We can try but its not something we did. Its in all ICS roms, all devices EXCEPT one leak for rezound i personally tried that had it disabled, but no clue where or how lol.
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
I just need to comment on this, If you wiped before flashing and ignore the wipe during installation, problems happen,

I used ARHD superwipe before flashing the first time and ignored the prompt to wipe during installation. I didn't and failed to load the ROM. After a battery pull, I used ARHD superwipe, choose wipe while installing and my ROM booted.

So, I believe that you need to wipe during the actually installation regardless of any other wipe programs
[Desire HD Android Development] killersloth:
Typically with aroma installer, if the option to wipe before installation is present and you decline, it fails to install correctly :(
[Desire HD Android Development] FireBlast:
Well, you can easily fix that problem in two ways:

1. any bug found to write in the op and write a fix if it can be fixed

2. release updates for problems you fixed two-three times a week and cumulative full Rom once in two weeks. Let the users be your testers like it doing lyapota with his beats patches.
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
or we delete all the useless posts that dont provide us any relevant information and go from there, sort of like yours?
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
You try running a thread. It's a pain in the arse. Also programming isn't just wam bam. Even if it's fixed on his phone doesn't mean it's going to work. This stuff takes time and since its done for free, just respect his wishes and don't clutter his thread.
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
1. So you expect us to do the work for you guys? Sure let us take time away from our updates, so i can search and hunt down bugs and various fixes and then take more time to post them in our OP...ALL so you you don't have to search for it yourself. Sure cause that makes more sense.

2.We'll release roms and updates whenever we want and however we want. Thank you.

On a more positive note, We do greatly appreciate the users here that have been extremely helpful and have answered the repeated questions for us and have just generally just helped one another out. YOU guys are awesome. Thanks.
[Desire HD Android Development] stricek:
720p recording is not working. It freezes the app completely
[Desire HD Android Development] FireBlast:
Take it easy I don't try to offend you. I just want be usefull in that way. You can delete all you think worthless for bug tracking but it doesn't solve problem. Take a look at Mike's thread it's made for sharing user experience between users. For bug trackig it's better to use separate thread.

I mean here there are 90% of users who wrote down only 1 post with bug or two. And only several users or your followers who tries to track down bugs and help to fix them. It's easier to teach them how to make it better then teach 90% of users who even won't see such post with words of stop spamming.

Sorry if my words are just wisper of wind for you but for me it makes sence. Won't bother you any more.
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
delete
[Desire HD Android Development] da__beast:
Obviously Dev's don't like to be told how and when to do things. If you really want to help, offer your services to keep track of this. If there is any update, post it in your update. If the Dev's release a fix/patch, note it. And always - if they don't want you to do this, then don't!!

Being in charge of a large group of dev's for commercial software (internal and external customers) I know having a deadline is hard to hit - even if it is projected out by weeks. Asking for an update every 2-3 days?? Have you ever been in a programming or development position? Have you ever been tasked for something and been asked to provide an update every 2 days (when the project is either ongoing or will take months to complete)? It is the sign of a micro manager - someone who doesn't trust his/her people to do the job. I trust the Dev team (for this rom and several others I use/watch). When they have something worth posting, they will. When they need a break and don't want to look at this, that is fine by me.
[Desire HD Android Development] soleil10:
I like you delete what you think it is worthless and just give a little liberty to say what one wants to say.

We all like your ROM; It is the best one to date;

We all love you; you are worth of it;

We want a perfect ROM just like you;

We want an update everyday just like you;

Why not inform your love users your next update? Even you can not give it at time, you can change the date...
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
What he said...Working in the IT field, asking for an ETA is a big no, no. If i knew what was wrong, it would be fixed already. It'll be ready when its ready...and so on. Please just keep helping yourselves, do a little bit of searching. For the most part, everyone is really friendly here, just don't feed the trolls.
[Desire HD Android Development] FireBlast:
Yes, I work in IT company and I know how bug tracking works and how it fixes. But I've just tried to be helpful because his post won't be seen by 99% of users.

When I update my phone to this great rom I think I can be helpful to make a post with bugs tracking and fixes or advices. But don't have it right now.
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
I really do not want to get involved here.

For the record, you are meant to search before posting (rule 1). If you have a bug, I doubt your the only one who has it, if you search and find out you are indeed the lucky one, post. If not you are setting yourself up to be flamed and/or trolled. I don't want that & neither do you.

The Devs & Users here, give their time to do the things they enjoy, the don't get paid. If you remove the enjoyment by being self-entitled you get nothing.

On the subject of ETA's, have a bit of common courtesy, don't ask. If they updates aren't pushed out by a date that the dev said it would, after being asked, the devs feel bad, and you feel let down. This should not happen.

XDA is a developers platform to share the developers love/interest in developing, not a platform for users to ask "can I have x and y, can I get that tomorrow?"

Also you don't want me to turn this into a spiderman thread.
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
and if you're not even using the rom i think you have even less of a reason to post here if not to contribute in some way...just saying...
[Desire HD Android Development] da__beast:
You can't fix those people - I have seen it here already. There is a problem when rebooting in the aroma installer - it was posted how to get around this issue less than 24 hours before I saw someone asking for help about this same issue. If they would read more than the last 2 posts (if even that many) before posting and/or search the thread, they would have had the answer. Putting all the problems and the associated fix for them in one place will not stop people from asking over and over again for the fix. People here are getting lazy.

In one thread (not this one) a script file has output that tells the user exactly what it is doing and why, people post the results in the thread and ask why? It told you why, why are they asking? They don't want to read and think on their own, they want to be spoon fed.

I refuse to re-post a fix that was posted within the last few days - instead I try to fix the problem and tell the user that they need to search for it - it is there.
[Desire HD Android Development] hercegyu:
+1
[Desire HD Android Development] FireBlast:
Great. Came here just to try Rom. Tried to read a few pages of the thread. Found a post of one team member and said an advice (maybe stupid for you or useless). Never asked for an ETA. Instead of ignoring my post you took here an admin and shut me up with "less of a reason to post here".

Canceled downloading. I think you just selfish kids here. Today you are on horse but tomorrow you can be under it. Never will post here again.
[Desire HD Android Development] da__beast:
I don't think the Mod was summoned here - I think the Mod was doing what Mods do - they watch threads - especially active ones. Sorry if you think you can offer advice and then not accept the consequences of such advice (basically telling someone what to do then not expecting the backlash that follows).

I was trying to be helpful for you, and the Dev(s) response is valid - if you are not using their rom then you have a small voice.

Since I have said a lot about this - I fully expect to be slammed by some and thanked by others. Either way - I am fine with it as I am trying to help keep this thread going - this rom looks to be my next flavor of the week.
[Desire HD Android Development] atrako1973:
too late for how shaky , question is when will they release their version ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] :
I did some deving this morning, so theoretically wifi/vpn/wifi teathering should all be fixed, i need to test n tweak now thats all thats left
[Desire HD Android Development] peiminglei:
dev is life, continue;)
[Desire HD Android Development] :
You mean lifestyle? Deving is krazy
[Desire HD Android Development] snefkens:
Is 2D GPU enabled?
[Desire HD Android Development] :
ofcourse :p
[Desire HD Android Development] ondrikcz:
great dev.Shaky;)
[Desire HD Android Development] sp33dy_gtx:
Nice to hear good things
[Desire HD Android Development] t24ever:
:)

Damn bro ... I think that you should do some deving more often :) hehehe
[Desire HD Android Development] ondrikcz:
yes,release for something please tell me feedback

thank you
[Desire HD Android Development] ondrikcz:
here it sleeps?
[Desire HD Android Development] killersloth:
go

away

get some sun and fresh air, the man will let you know any information as it comes.
[Desire HD Android Development] Mikenif:
Ill sleep when im dead :p
[Desire HD Android Development] tessut:
Good setting for a dev ^^
[Desire HD Android Development] ondrikcz:
here is winter,Iam from czech republic kapisto??
[Desire HD Android Development] s8int117:
Whoa very intresting, with all the leaks, wich one is this? "one v, one s?
[Desire HD Android Development] proxuser:
use deodexed system and framework then data and phone works well
[Desire HD Android Development] shrome99:
You fixed data and phone?!?!?!? Wow. That was unexpectedly quick, even for you :D:D:D
[Desire HD Android Development] proxuser:
sorry i wrote wrong, using odexed files phone & data works fine..
[Desire HD Android Development] janarp:
Well... Then i wish u long life mate... :)
[Desire HD Android Development] radtech777:
I think people forget that XDA is a development forum. As a user, someone who has no Dev skills, I would not be opposed to signing a User Bill of Rights or something with rules of conduct, proper search protocol, something as a perquisite to downloading your hard work. This thread is 1% superb ROM, 10% honest bug reports, and 89% user grocery list and repeat questions. You guys have done an amazing job putting up with this.
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
Why do people always turn to the kid comment when they lose an argument. I don't know any kids that dedicate free time to programming instead of playing video games and hanging out with friends. Maybe I'm wrong but either way it's ignorant to make loosely based accusations about people you don't even know. You should have just learned a lesson and moved on, but now that your getting personal, on top of your previous offense, your really alienating your self. And who's on the horse here?....^^^
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
Seriously, where did I reference you or your post in mine? I fail to see where I was summoned to shut you up, I have better things to do than to try to silence the internet.

If you'd read a few posts before mine, you would of seen which post was aimed at with the ETA's. The rest was more of a reminder to others.

As da__beast pointed out, I tend to lurk in the Desire HD forums quite a bit, because I used to own one and I know how it works and who's who around here.

As for not posting here again, that's your choice, no-one forced you out.

Can we get on topic before M_T_M arrives and takes this thread completely off topic. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] soleil10:
Why we discussed all things here? You'd better discuss those issues in PM.

This is a amazing ROM and we all, OPs and Users, had and will have great plesure to see each other here.

Just relaxe and the life is graceful.
[Desire HD Android Development] asif9t9:
Sorry I have to get my two cents in here, too. If a problem and solution has been reported, like with the aroma installer, then yes there's no excuse not to search it out.

But if you search a problem and only find other people pointing out the problem, you should still post the problem imo. That's how devs know it's a growing issue.

And of course, all this could be resolved if the OP was kept even somewhat updated. You have to expect that if the OP isn't updated then even the dev doesn't think an issue is really an issue.

If mods wants to look at a problem,how about closing threads that say "fully" working when they clearly aren't.

And also, how about if you don't like a certain repetitive post, just don't reply to it. That's how you keep things on topic, not by flaming people.
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
Its because, if something starts in the public view, then quickly gets hidden away, more suspicion is aroused, accusations start flying around and then the conspiracy theory's start.

Your absolutely right, this should of be handled via PM, but this way you've all seen it start and end, nothing was hidden.

Sometimes users wrongly thing we moderators have ulterior motives, or second "personal" agendas. We don't, we just try to keep the forums clean & friendly.
[Desire HD Android Development] cdordon:
Once it booted it ran great with the exception of MMS. This was the only ROM I've ever tried where MMS wouldn't send. I tried fixing APN, the correct ril for my radio, and nothing worked. Overall though, its a bad ass ROM.

Sent from my Cellular Telephone, which can do magic things over the internet.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
What is going on here? Anyway back to business.

On two issues that I noted earlier: (1) The 3G signal occasionally dropping off for a few seconds, and (2) GTalk appearing to be connected while actually being disconnected, requiring a Mobile Network off/on toggle to get it reconnected.

I flashed back to my previous ROM, ARHD 6.3.3, to better compare the two. With the 26.14.04.28_M radio. On the issue of the signal dropping I it is all a bit inconclusive. On ARHD the signal drops less often, but I noticed on one occasion in the past day when the phone reported a 3G signal but I could not update my Twitter app, and checking the status of GTalk confirmed it was off. Toggled data off/on to reconnect.

On my previous 8 days with Blackout ICS I do not recall this happening. Best guess is that Blackout ICS might be reporting the actual state more accurately. I did notice that most of the I noticed Blackout ICS not reporting a 3G signal was when waking from sleep, when a signal would appear a few seconds later.

On the GTalk issue, on ARHD it is a good way to check the actual status of connectivity. No signal it disconnects. Signal comes back on, than it connects back to the network. On Blackout ICS when the signal is lost momentarily GTalk does not seem to realize that it has been disconnected, and subsequently does not try to reconnect.

That's all I got. All other issues I have noticed are known already. I seem to be the only one with a GTalk issue.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000 powered by CyanogenMod 9
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
+1 just for the record I am 52yrs old, have 4 children ranging from 23 up to 29 yrs old and 9 grandchildren rom 10mos to 8yrs old.
[Desire HD Android Development] hysteresis:
LoL. I thought to ask when you wrote about your daughter and her husband.

Thanks for taking the huge time out to develop this ROM.
[Desire HD Android Development] soleil10:
Wow. you look like a 25yrs old man (not a 52). Or you look like a 25yrs young man.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
This makes me feel much better. I thought I was the oldest person on this thread.

I did not comment the first time I saw the improper comment. If you ask me, it is the users are like children.

When will the update come out? When it is ready. If it is never ready it is not like this good gentlemen owe me anything. I seem to recall I bought this phone from HTC.

Same in a different thread I follow. "will______ give us an ICS ROM?"

If he decides to.

"If there is no ICS ROM, I may have to switch to a different ROM."

Sure why not.

I am guilty of poor search too, so I must apologize for some unnecessary posts in this forum. All I can claim is good faith. I do search first.

Report an issue, ask for help, say thanks. These good people are not our employees.

Will not comment further on this side show.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD powered by ARHD 6.3.3
[Desire HD Android Development] alpha007org:
Comparing ARHD with Blackout ICS

I was ARHD (6.3.3) user for a long time. In fact it was the only ROM i liked.

BlackoutICS:

ANNOYANCE: When phone goes to sleep it loses data connection. Sometimes it helps if I just toggle Mobile Network On/Off but rarely. Solution is to go to Network Settings and manually search for available networks (sometimes it says "Search failed") and confirm network then I get data. It happens with any setting (WCDMA/GSM/BOTH Auto).

Auto Brightness is a little wonky. Sometimes it seems like it doesn't work.

I too found that GTalk does not reconnect.

SUPERB: GPS is better than with ARHD. When on route, it is more accurate. Wifi works the same. Overclocking! I do not know how you did it but with ARHD i could not overclock. I was stuck with 1.15GHz. More voltage did not help. Tries a lot of kernels but it was the same. With BlackoutICS I can overclock to 1.4GHz no problem. Tested with Stability App for 12 hours.

BETTER: BlackoutICS handles 3D gaming better. With ARHD if phone was not restarted a long time, 3D games were not playable. BlackoutICS handles that much better.

ARHD have better multitasking. With ARHD I could browse in Opera Mobile with a couple of tabs, go to home screen, launch 3D game (Asphalt 6 HD), played for 30 min, exit and when I switched back to Opera and it didn't have to start because it was already loaded. BlackoutICS kills it as soon as I hit home button.

Proximity Sensor works better with ARHD.

Some Apps, SportsTracker for example, eats 30mA with ARHD but 50-60mA with BlackoutICS (when phone is sleeping and just recording my biking). If there isn't any app running in the background and phone sleeps ARHD is spending 4-6mA, BlackoutICS 3mA despite more voltage and higher frequency. This is strange.

All in all I like BlackoutICS. When you polish it (camcorder, and those little bugs) it should be THE BEST ROM for DesireHD.

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I must apologize you DEVS for accusing you that your ROM has some spyware. When I flashed BlackoutICS, next day I was getting SPAM SMSs which never happened to me before. But it stopped the same day. I got around 6 SMSs through the day and then it just stopped. Again Sorry.

Keep up the good work and thank you for ICS ROM for DHD which have so little problems. :good:
[Desire HD Android Development] kennypow3rs:
Its not a party unless Kenny jumps in....

1.STOP ASKING FOR UPDATES AND LEARN HOW TO PROGRAM YOURSELF YOU UNGRATEFUL POONS.

2. STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER. THE DEV IS AWARE OF ALMOST 99.8% OF THE CURRENT ISSUES. NO NEED TO REPEAT EVERY FEW POSTS.

3. WE ALL KNOW ITS A GREAT ROM, NO NEED TO CLUTTER UP THE THREAD WITH POINTLESS POSTS SAYING "GREAT ROM CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT UPDATE" THAT'S WHY THE THANKS BUTTON WAS CREATED.

4. IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, SEARCH THIS ACTUAL THREAD MANY PROBABLY ALREADY ASKED AND MAY HAVE SOLVED YOUR ISSUE.

5. LAST, BE COOL AND TAKE IT EASY AND REMEMBER THAT THE INSPIRE/DHD IS NOT A GALAXY NEXUS OR A ONE X AND WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE. ALOT OF ISSUES WILL TAKE TIME AND WILL NEVER BE PERFECT. THIS OLD DEVICE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH BE HAPPY IT GOT THIS FAR.

- Kenny P
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
How were you able to confirm this? I noticed the similar behavior. A lot of times when I wake the phone I see the "H" only pop-up several seconds after I wake the phone.
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
If it makes some of you feel any better, we are currently doing some testing hopefully addressing the data issues, sms/mms issues and OC/stability issues. Mike's "balls deep", as he likes to say, in java trying to cram as many tweaks possible while the rest of the bugs are ironed out. we know of proximity sensor, possible issues with samsung camera sensors, auto brightness tweaking, fm radio, hotspot, beats for DHD, sound quality and weather/vid playback issues. We'll fix the major bugs before we start adding non essential items, but we are keeping notes on the good suggestions. Good night all.
[Desire HD Android Development] Pop Tarantula:
The difference between this and other ICS roms is all features work but with some bugs to iron out. The others have complete feature fails (items on a not-working list are not mere bugs!). So I think it is fair to say this is FULLY WORKING, especially in comparison.

as it is a development forum, there is little reason to close such a remarkable WIP thread?

Desire HD : * Blackout ICS 3.0.0 * : Tapatalk 2.2.7
[Desire HD Android Development] zachs_xda:
That's right. In fact, fully working != bug-free.

Are stock HTC ROMs all fully working? I'd say yes.

Are they all BUG FREE? NO WAY!
[Desire HD Android Development] DarkShadowMX:
I've gotta say, this rom is almost everything i've looking for in a long time.... stable, fast and beautiful (and updated)

Now if only i'd find out how to put battery percent on top and there were more tweaks available...