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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Jamesyboy:
This is the fastest device Ive ever had my hands on. That includes ios devices and my T2 Transformer. Even with ICS the UI isnt as fast as my note (read: smoothness...the pages and apps may transition or load faster sometimes on my transformer, but it isnt as buttery). And while the international note may have a faster SoC, the ATT note hasnt stuttered a single time nor has it dropped the frame rate below 30 fps in any game. And Ive played some demanding titles. Ive played dead space, idatank, zombie wonderland, and a whole host of other games. Plus, your getting LTE in exchange. Would i have preferred an exynos based SoC? yea. But not in exchange for LTE.

The bottom line: the note is blazing fast now, and will only get faster when ICS comes out this month. The real world performance differences are negligible, and not even worth mentioning. And battery life (which is good with the screen power management enabled) i havent had a single problem with the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SKyRocKeting727:
It really all depends, do you care about 4G LTE Speeds or quadrant scores? The int version has the better processor but isn't compatible with LTE. IMO, After rooting and removing some of the bloatware on the AT&T note, it runs smooth like butter. But the int version has some great features that the AT&T version didn't come with. Those would be scrolling wallpaper, movie editor, and a few options in settings. Its hard to get the best of both worlds...

-On another NOTE, Samsung goes 5.3"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
Of u install Saurom it has alot of the settings restored that the att version does not have.

Sent from the Almighty Note! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SKyRocKeting727:
Thanks for the info, i was really debating on what Rom to flash.

-On another NOTE, Samsung goes 5.3"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tupirujp:
So I be good whit my att note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
The international note won't even see ICS this month. Don't hold your breath for the ATT one to either
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsjusttim:
Very true!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] hegemytouch:
I heard the note has a barometer in it...is that for the att and international version?

Galaxy Note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] BDK2012:
I've got the bell version just installed app Barometer HD checked with my local weather station and its right on... :D my note just keeps getting better Thanks Samsung
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] hauj0bb:
Intl Note doesn't have NFC, nor is it LTE capable. That makes up for the slight difference in CPU performance in the ATT Note, IMO.

Yes, I know NFC isn't enabled yet, but the hardware is there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
If you live in North America, it is better to get the att note. (warranty stuff, lte) If you live in europe is better to get the int'l one. I personally do not care what people say about the processor, you don't notice the difference and even the benchmark scores do not mean anything! +I like att note's design better
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] imitenotbecrazy:
You can enable it with a canadian based rom like Saurom. I have been writing tags today with Nfc task launcher. Really cool app that allows you to write a batch of commands to an Nfc tag so that when in the vicinity, the phone runs the batch. I have one now on my car dock to turn off wifi, turn on bluetooth, open voice talk, turn up volume, turn on gps. All without touching the phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DJsCrIBbLe:
I get 3200 in quadrant first run underclocked on aosp ics.

I say to each his own. If u play a lot of games and video and don't have lte in your city go international. If you can use lte stick with the att version as you won't notice a huge performance difference in daily use between the two phones
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rgarjr:
I have an iPhone 4s on AT&T with the unlimited data plan. Was wondering if you can switch back and forth between an iPhone and Note LTE? Being that they are are 2 different data plans (HSPA+ and LTE) would there be any conflicts switching SIM cards between them?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] itsnowornever:
I was gonna ask where he got that information from too. LOL.:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lJesseCusterl:
Yes, there are many conflicts. The 4S runs HSPA+ and the Note runs LTE...the plans are provisioned differently in the system. Not to mention Android devices and iDevices run two different provisions even between 3G or HSPA+. Then there's the microSIM versus standard SIM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] StarLog:
Is English your first language. ?

I understand you just fine, but some people may be scratching their heads.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kbilly70:
I have the international Note and picked up the AT&T version for my wife. I have been comparing both and in everyday tasks there is only a very slight bit of lag on the AT&T version but nothing that would be a deal breaker. I think the differnce can be chalked up to my Note being rooted with latest firmware and all bloat removed, and hers stock unrooted.

So IMO it comes down to features and your preference. I prefer the physical home button, my wife likes the capacitive buttons. No LTE in our area yet but she wants it so when they do roll it out here. She also prefers being able to deal with warranty issues directly with the carrier.

All I can say is get either one, you will love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Still amazes me every day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gordec:
Also lots of us got it for around $150 with contract. Sure beats $650-$700.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
+1

Sent from the Almighty Note! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rgarjr:
The microSIM is not a problem since I have an adapter for it. What my concern is though what would happen if I switch back and forth between those two devices every once in a while.

Would an LTE data plan not work on an iPhone 4s
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Sinful Animosity:
They would probably give you an LTE sim, and you could use a micro sim cutter. Past that I fail to see a problem. The worst that could happen is that you can't use data on the 4S
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lJesseCusterl:
No. They're provisioned differently in our system and not cross-compatible, AFAIK.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tupirujp:
No is not lol kan u tell :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
I think if you get a LTE provisioned SIM card and then cut it down you will be able to switch between your phones. I switch between my two GNotes with my SIM and of course the International Version is HSPA+ and it works fine. I have a friend who does this with his iphone 4s and skyrocket, at least he told me that. Gotta get the LTE provisioned SIM first.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] xgoochx:
If you use you iPhone sim and place it in the Note you will not have internet, but you will be able to make/receive phone calls and vice versa for text messaging. So what you really need to decide is, which phone you really want for internet usage and which one will be fine using Wi-Fi.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Jamesyboy:
The main issue would be the sim. When switching to a 4g phone, ATT network requires a new sim. So you'd have to get a new sim and a sim adapter/cutter. No big deal. But to be honest, going from the largest smartphone to one of the smallest is going to be tough. I gave my mother my iphone 4 when i got my galaxy note. When i went back on the iphone to delete some stuff.....i couldn't believe it.

---------- Post added at 01:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:33 PM ----------

They're cross compatible. I've tested my sim in both phones. I'm not sure if there are long-term differences, but in the two thiry minute sessions--0 issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Twistedchild420:
2 year contract vs. complete freedom.....i'll take freedom....not to mention ridiculous prices on throttled data over at AT&T
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
Let me break it down for you.

$150 on contract, plus $39.99 for 450 anytime minutes and 5000 nights/weekends with rollover. Plus $20 for unlimited texts and mobile to mobile. Plus $30 for 3GB of data, LTE or HSPA.

So $150 on contract, plus $39.99+$20+$30 every month, or $89.99 a month. For two years, this is $2,309.76.

OR, I can spend $600 for my international Note (actually got it in a trade, so free but let's say I did spend $600).

$50 a month for unlimited talk, text and HSPA (AT&T LTE is in all of what, six markets right now?)

So assuming I keep it for two years (why would I, I don't have a contract so I can upgrade at any time?), it is $50 x 24 + $600, or $1,800.

A savings of $500 over two years.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Clamhost:
Okay, but who is your carrier that charges $50 a month? It better not be T-Mobile, because they are really awful where I live. I have unlimited data, but I was thinking about returning or selling my Galaxy Note and picking up the international version new on eBay or $630. I could get around $600 for my AT&T version or I would return it and get my $449 back (I had a early upgrade discount). What do you think?! I will mention that I'm on a family plan with three/3 other lines that are locked in till Q4 2013 - Q1 2014. We all have unlimited data grandfathered.

Thank you,

Thomas Lopez
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lpsi2000:
I like the way you think but I discovered something recently. AT&T is capping non-AT&T phones data speeds. I have an Internal SGS II and AT&T Note, seating in the same location, same signal (amount of bars), no LTE in this location, the AT&T note is getting 5-8MB download while the SGS II is only getting about 2.5 max.

I called them up and I was told that is because my version of the SGS II is not an AT&T support phone. Although it is compatible with their network, AT&T supported phones are provisioned differently on their system.

The drawback with the International version is the fact that AT&T won't provision it to take advantage its network. It is amazing on the Note I can get almost 10Mbps on HSPA+ and the International devices would max out at around 2.5 -3Mbps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DJsCrIBbLe:
I think that's bull. Honestly that tech is prob a jackass. Maybe its due to different hardware modems or software stuff?

I have an international note on att and never changed my imei over from my infuse so they still think I'm on a 4g att phone. And my data speeds are slightly better than my infuse (i suspect because better hardware, modems and antenna) none the less. Also if your account imei is set on the att note then they have no way of knowing ur using your international phone?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] s1mpd1ddy:
i like having 4G LTE when its available.

I wanted to buy an international note, but I figured -- I might as well hop on the LTE bandwagon. (besides, I used my fathers upgrade, so I still have an upgrade available in July!)

I'm satisfied with my purchase. Yeah Note may be laggy at some times, but it plays .mkv natively, and smoothly I might add, using the stock Video player.

The screen is gorgeous too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] CreekDirt:
If you get the AT&T version and have an unlimited data plan then you will start getting capped at the 5gb mark instead of some random, "based on average usage in your area" mumbo jumbo equation. I prefer the physical home button though and sure do miss it.

Other than that the phone is very fast regardless of what processor you are running, you get LTE in LTE areas, and returns are not a hassle. I had to swap mine out today for a bad wifi chip (it was not the sim card issue some have). I am very thankful that I bought this one locally.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
I have an international Gnote and easily get 6-8 mbps down and 1 up on hspa+. ATT has no clue what it is.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eddie Bombay:
Tested my cousins International Note, they're pretty much the same to me.

Only difference is I get 59 MB Down / 9 MB Up. My cousins Int version gets like 6 MB Down / 4 MB Up.

Think I'll stick to my ATT version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] alphadog32:
AT&T Note might suffer from the same screen issues that the Skyrocket and Hercules have. Because of the Snapdragon processor. Just saying. International is also faster, nothing said about that. International has more developers as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
only noobs believe that processor speed means a lot. if you have a good/stable rom speed becomes a secondary concern. and stop acting like you will run some 8gb game on the note. in that case you better consider using a desktop;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] alphadog32:
It's not the processor that is better, it's the GPU. AndI love the hardware key in middle IMO. And International has way more support, so more future updates
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Barbarian:
I would certainly hope the International has more developers...been out longer..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
why don't you trade it for the intl version? and of course it has more support, has been in the market since last year
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] alphadog32:
I don't have it. I have The SGS II from T-Mobile.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
Pretty quick, just kind of sad if i have cm7 on my infuse and can score higher lol, but quadrants do not mean crap. If the device is smooth as butter, then its fantastic! For the people who think its slow: Try going in setcpu if on the overclock kernel, forcing it to use both cores. I heard really helps out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] joshnichols189:
I'm using AT&T prepaid with my Note and getting $50 unlimited everything a month. Data speeds is really a non issue to me because if I need to download something large I have wifi. 3mbps is plenty fast enough for me for what I need to do on cellular data.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] spiritcrusher33:
I have had both. sold the att note and kept my int note. the int note felt better to me. love the home button. and the colors looked better ( could be the same etc not starting a vs war ) lol also this is my work phone so Im not rooting or anything so I stuck with the int note just for the fact it will get ics way sooner than waiting on att.

not to mention for some reason on my data counter when i check my account at the website or the app. it doesnt show im using data lol wondering if thats really the case, we shall see.

all in all. like many before said., if lte is important to u get the att. if u want speed and ics sooner get the int. real world diff u wont notice...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] i_max2k2:
Sorry there is no difference in performance with HSPA/LTE on either phones, not sure if you have tested this yourself or your speculating.

I think once your official device is an LTE phone, it should be 5gb (speculating).

Wrong, LTE sim works either way.

Yep.

Just get a LTE sim, cut it and your all set to use it in either devices.

+1

I have been switching phones with the same LTE enabled sim cut down to micro sim size without an adaptor for 2 weeks now, no difference, nothing nada.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] E90 Commie:
I will chime in here.:D

I bought the international Note because of the following:

1. Unlocked.

2. Exynos CPU.

3. Physical home button.

4. Much more ROMs and kernels to choose from.

5. Unlocked again, this time for travelling.

6. A better deal from an economical point of view:

I paid $680 for the Note from Expansys and sold my Thunderbolt. With Verizon and corporate discounts, I had bills of approximately $100 including data.

Now, I am using Straight Talk and runs on the AT&T network for $45 including data and unlimited talk and text. I have also good rates for international calling.

Under a 24 months period (in order to compare with an AT&T contract), the economy is as follows:

$680 + 45 x 24 = $1760.

With AT&T, the minimum would be (I use the normal upgrade price):

$299 + 100 x 24 = $2699.

The AT&T example is with a 450 minutes plan paired with a $30 data package plus some nice taxes/fees (I approximate them from the Verizon plan I had).

I save approximately $939 during the coming two years with Straight Talk and my international Note compared to the AT&T version with a 24 months agreement.

Even if the AT&T i717 is subsidized, the carrier compensates that with a broad margin with their rates and 24 months contract.

Now, I am also thinking about ordering a Note over in Sweden since there's a campaign there (a friend will use it): get a Note for $50 per months, unlimited talk, text and 10 GB of data. No money upfront. The Note is simply "free" with this offer.

So the i717 is an expensive version of the Note and I don't see too many reasons to go LTE with just 3 GB of data. Atleast 10 GB if it should be useful for data intense tasks.

I recommend the international Note paired with a Straight Talk AT&T BYOD SIM rather than the i717.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tbong777:
I agree with the above ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Have to look into straight talk. I thought you had to pay more for data on Straight Talk? Or does the note appear like a dumb phone like all International phones so you don't have to buy the extra data pak.

I 'll be looking for a used International version. I learned with the Captivate the International versions get more development attention as their numbers a far larger. We buy our phones used.

Then there is the FM radio which is nice (and a battery and data saver over Pandora). But the best thing is the $10-$15 Unlimited MediaNet data plan. Since We don't have LTE here for a couple years and we really don't use more than 1Gb of data of Carrier data I could not see paying any more than necessary so we both have SGS II i19100s. Savings around $500 a year on MediNet. 3G+ is fast enough.

I am looking to get an International Note and then see how the SGS III lands later this year. May skip the Note altogether if I can't find a used N7000 for less than $500.

In the mean time We have a couple upgrades I will likely use to buy and sell the iPhone 5 when it gets released. I don't mind being under contract. been with ATT for 15 years or more and not going anywhere although Straight talk looking like a good option.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DJsCrIBbLe:
You make valid points for sure. For me I went unlocked just because the I717 wasn't out yet. I'm on att and only pay 55 a month for unlimited data /texts and 450 minutes. With unlimited mobile to mobile. Because we have 5 lines and corporate discounts. Our individual bills remain lower than most. With rollover we basically have unlimited. Currently I have around 6000 rollover and counting each month. I'll always buy unlocked and probably just use upgrades to sell the phones off... If we ever decide to give up our lines ST is the way to go.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Having both phones, they are comparable in operation. The international will always get updates first and the ATT gets blazing fast LTE speeds.

One is not better in my view, just different. Not trying to be PC, just the way I see it. I do not understand the entire hatred of ATT and expending all of this energy to save a few bucks. But each to their own.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sweetboy02125:
You can easily buy an ATT note over Craigslist for 500-550.

I will recommend to use Straightalk or whatever cheap service out there. However, if you have a family more than 3 lines get into the Family talk plan is better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] E90 Commie:
Is taxes and fees included in those $55?

I have learned that the carriers don't like to talk about those "regulatory fees" even if it's hidden in the contract that they can "increase the bill with 6-40%" (info from Verizon).

I could use a corporate discount on Verizon, which reduced the bill down towards the advertised price but still an unpleasant surprise.

What I think is interesting is that no carriers mention any prices including those extra charges. I have never experienced something similar with other contracts I had in other countries. The price I see is the price I pay (the tax is included in the plan since the legislation requires it to be included in the price - only business plans are exceptions).

It is a bit funny to see an advertised price of $80 for a contract but when the bill arrives it states $100 instead because of those charges.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DJsCrIBbLe:
Yes sir. Thats what my bill is including a small bit of taxes etc... With so many lines im only paying for my data and a small part of the minutes plan and texting plan. Because its split so many ways.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DJsCrIBbLe:
Your right about offering less for more ****.

Our deal is. 450 minutes, unlimited family text, and 3 of the 5 lines have grandfathered unlimited data.

Us three each pay our Data (30 bucks) and the 2 add a lines pay the 10 add a line each month. And the minutes and text cost gets divided according.

Our monthly is usually 207.00 each month with taxes. Our discount is 30% . So all in all we have a great deal going and no complaints on our end.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mitchjaz:
lte

If you have lte available, there is no contest. LTE speeds will spoil you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] spiritcrusher33:
But really what's the point in lte. If ur stuck on tiered data.lol ... I mean to me its pointless to do anything with lte besides stream video or audio which consumes a boat load of data. I'm fine on hspa+ on my int note. Plus lte is a battery hog ---- that In my opinion made the decision to sell my att note and stay with my int note. Easy. Real world performance aside.:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Barry (NJ):
Actually they know exactly what device you're sim is in. I've put my sim into different phones and when I check my account on line the phone my sim is in is displayed accurately.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DJsCrIBbLe:
For you maybe. I called the other day to get the smsc code from a Rep and i have been using my infuse sim in my note for weeks and they're system still showed my using an i977 infuse 4g... so i call bull again. And even if they detected I'm using an unlocked phone they are not slowing me down. I have identical speeds to my girls sgs2 i777.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mitchjaz:
LTE

A couple of reasons LTE is very important to me.... admittedly not for everyone. I'm often in very crowded areas. Sporting events and music arenas etc. The LTE signal is amazing in those environments when the 3g networks are ttotally bogged down. It's great!. Secondly, I often use the hotpot function for tethering my laptop at work. Once again, it's great having the LTE speeds. YMMV
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] spiritcrusher33:
I do agree lte has many positives... just sucks that u cant use the speed for what its meant to be used for.. and be capped at that..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] E90 Commie:
LTE is nice but to be useful, at least 10 GB of data is needed since it should be used for streaming movies in high quality, Spotify premium and other services (Youtube HD etc).

With the caps AT&T has, it is not too realistic to use it for those things.

A good article about data caps is here:

http://www.publicknowledge.org/4g-data-caps-magic-beans

I will quote the conclusion from the article and it reflects my own point exactly:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpeg42:
Or it is just awesome to download something in a flash when off wifi. Not sure why 10GB is needed for that??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] E90 Commie:
For my data use, 10 GB or at least 5 GB is needed for practical use.

The things I download is often big and I can't download a couple games (500-900 MB/game) without hitting the cap.

Not to mention video files and other things.

For me, it is obvious that LTE speeds are good for large downloads and heavy streaming. When that option is out, HSPA+ is sufficient. Or even HSDPA.

You can get 10 GB data, unlimited talk and unlimited text with Hi3G. The AT&T pricing is outrageous in comparison. 2 GB of LTE data is absolutely nothing.