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[Desire General] Someone09:
They say it should be preorderable on May 3rd.

Anyway, I was originally waiting for the Asus Padfone. But since they are still nowhere near on schedule and it won´t be available over here until Septembre, I decided to take a look at the One X and S.

The One S is pretty much the Desire with new technology...so, that might become my next phone.

The One X was...more than disappointing. Way too big and the screen was very unresponsive.

And the worst part: ICS runs much smoother on my Desire than it does on the One X. :eek:

I might be waiting for the SGS3 but honestly, I doubt I can live without Sense anymore. ;)
[Desire General] FariG:
Moving on to a HTC One S or a Sensation EX haven't decided yet, would like a to get the HTC One S but don't know if its wont the money specially since the developers can do so much that it wont make such a big difference..
[Desire General] hoads1234:
I reckon I can get at least another year out of my Desire (fingers crossed anyway). Would love an upgrade, but just don't have the cash.
[Desire General] amraving:
I decided to keep my desire and get a damn cheap contract for 12 months and make a gadget fund with my saved line rental to buy some pointless technology!
[Desire General] vijendrahs:
Proud to have desire

I was planning to upgrade the device soon or later.. But people like Shaky keep our desires alive.

First Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3 with Sense 4.0 on a QSD Soc device!

Enjoy!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1653537
[Desire General] biohaufen:
Hmm, I think that my next Phone will be the Samsung Galaxy SIII, because I don´t like the screen of the One X, it´s very yellow :eek:
[Desire General] vijendrahs:
lol there is a option to change background
[Desire General] acuk:
My contract ran out 6 months ago, so i just got a cheap SIM to keep me going in the mean time.

But i have no idea what to get next. I'm liking the HTC One x and the Galaxy S3. Think i may wait for more reviews on the S3 to make up my mind.

I'm in no rush to replace my Desire just yet! Best phone iv ever had! :D
[Desire General] linker3000:
I love my Desire (running CM7.2), but had an opportunity to spend some corporate funds on a new handset.

I tried a One X and Galaxy S3 (dummy), but considering I do a lot of message checking and network monitoring on the phone, with perhaps only 4 or 5 calls a day, I went for a Samsung Galaxy Note.

I love the large screen and it makes every other smartphone just seem tiny by comparison. It would be really tough to go back to a 4.x" screen now.
[Desire General] AFCAjax:
Hi,

Since 2 weeks I have upgraded my Desire to a One X. And I have to say... In the beginning I thought; Great phone, but nothing new.

After I took the step to root it, there are some great new features which are very nice. I also kept the Desire as a backup of my One X.

So: If you can afford, I should go for the One X, eventually One S. It's a superphone, and I see it as the new Desire!

Regards,

AFCAjax
[Desire General] woodwars:
Time for me to move on, ordered this:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sam...36-00-p-m-189-00-upfront-phones4u-tcb-1219591

Thanks to all the ROM developers especially gingervillain and mildwild.
[Desire General] amraving:
All you guys who have moved on, good luck, I hope you enjoy your new phones.

I just can't see what it can do bar gaming any better?

The consumer in me would like a bigger screen and a faster processor but sense dictates I can 'do ' everything I want already? Most new things can do more, but what more do you guys want?

Personally I want multi SD support and for anyone who's seen james bond, tommorow never dies, a tazer, smoke machine and a remote for my car!
[Desire General] WeeDab1x:
Desire is such a cool phone when you root it. I have CM7 (faster,root abilities, more features) and ive partitioned my SD card (no more internal memory problems) so its become such an AWESOME PHONE!!!Its also at the right size more or less. I hate huge phones!

My biggest regret is rooting 1 month before my upgrade! Why didnt i do this sooner???!!!! Like 1 years ago!

Oh well im sorry my wonderful Desire but ill have to leave you for HTC One S! I wish id known you earlier, we couldve had so much fun together :P
[Desire General] muellersmattes:
I'd like to upgrade, but all these new high-end phones seem to have their downsides. The One X had screen problems reported, and it's so huge. The S3 is even bigger, and they both still have hardware buttons. If the One S had a better screen, I'd probably go for that. And the similar sized Sony Xperia S has a great display, but older processor and still no ICS.

I think I'll wait a few months longer. Atm my desire still serves me well.

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire
[Desire General] WeeDab1x:
Are you talking about resolution and ppi? Trust me your eye is not going to notice any difference especialy on a 4.3-4.8 screen and the distance that you hold your mobile. Dont buy into marketing bull****. The only thing you should be looking for now that resolutions and ppi are high enough, is color reproduction and One S is GREAT.

http://www.kybervision.com/Blog/files/AppleRetinaDisplay.html

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/
[Desire General] find7touchpad:
im keeping my desire for a while longer,its just the right size for me,its been going for 2 years without one problem,i wanted a galaxy s2 but i felt like i would break it when in my pocket,htc one has no micro sd or removable battery as with the nexus .
[Desire General] BashyUK:
Got the Note a couple of days ago. Awesome phone hopefully the dev for it will be too.

The Desire experience was amazing because of Modaco and xda. Here's hoping it carries on.

I looked at my Desire a few hours after using the note. It's tiny lol and the screen resolution. Well. It is two years old and you can definitely tell.

Move on all. Embrace the large side lol. S2, One X, s3 or the note, you can't go wrong.
[Desire General] cdeaton:
I've decided to keep my Desire. The only real upgrade my carrier (nTelos) offers is the Milestone X2, and I just don't think it'll be better than a customized Desire.
[Desire General] utilitydave:
I'm tempted by the one x, can get it free if I keep my current contract.£30 for 300 min, 500 texts and 3gb data and no one's even close to that for data these days. But Sandvold's ics has given the old desire a new lease of life so I could just pick up a £10 p/m giffgaff sum and save myself a fortune. Decisions! Bloody annoying orange don't do the nexus, I'd like to try some pure Google really :D
[Desire General] Alien2653:
The time has come and if I can afford HTC One XL or S, I will buy them and if not I will go for Sony Xperia S or P :cool:

The Desire is a great phone but the Tech world is moving faster than it so...
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Xperia S looks a bit ugly for my liking - don't like the weird keys at the bottom either (menu keys)

and its still on Gingerbread which isnt a great sign.

anyway I ended up getting the Evo3D - cheap and pretty darn awesome with ICS loaded.

will skip the One generation and hope something with an SDcard slot comes along (not Samsung GS3)
[Desire General] cronus101:
Why not sg3? Is it not that much better then the evo?
[Desire General] Peacemaker666:
I bought the new Galaxy S3 a week ago. I loved my desire very much, especially with all the custom ROMs but the main thing that bothered me was the small display. So I'm totally happy with my new phone .... and I've always bought my phone separated from the contract, usually that was cheaper for me.
[Desire General] Alien2653:
Guys even if you wanna move on the greatest smart phone out there is HTC One XL/X AT&T. The Snapdragon S4 is something you really don't wanna miss. The Greatest CPU till now, beating the quad core galaxy s iii and HTC one x in most of the benchmarks but the browsing marks. And if you want something cheaper it definitely must be the HTC One S!!

Cheaper than that the Sony Xperia P, Xperia Sola and Galaxy S Advance

And something else never even think of buying Sensation/Sensation XE/XL, Evo/3D those are failures they're the worst dual core devices I've ever had the chance to get my hands on.

The most recent smartphone which I got my hands on is HTC One X, whatever sites say, this phone is GREAT but I like the One XL better...

Still your choice, choose Wisely!! :cool: ;)
[Desire General] erklat:
Define the relation between benchmark results and end user experience?
[Desire General] stankyou:
This

That's why I find that benchmark thread here quite pointless. Lo and behold there are two threads now. :D

I'm undecided between OneX and Galaxy Nexus.. yeah specs wise Galaxy Nexus is nothing compared to OneX but it's damn cheaper.
[Desire General] amraving:
One thing I'd actually miss IS the hardware butttons. The greatest tweak the desire ever got was track2wake and unlock. I never use the power button anymore. It's a feature that I need on every rom I get. Although one thing that never happened was the torch by pressing home on miui never made it to another rom :-(

I'm sticking with my trusty desire, my friend got a one x and had to send it back because of the screen glue issue and didn't notice much difference having to go back to his desire except he couldn't play gta.

Good luck with your new phones everyone, I'm enjoying being £15 better off a month, I live on a tight budget so this saving has justified my new raspberry pi :-)
[Desire General] Alien2653:
"Performance", right now, every app can be viewed on all of them and every game can be played on all of them but after a while (couple of years) the desire tragedy will hit them too. I could have bought desire hd back when I bought my desire and if I did I could have all the updates and stuff of course, I would miss this great community (desire hd developers are waiting for HTC to give out the kernel for ICS while our developers are working hard to write it themselves) but we couldn't have the pleasure of playing GTA on our phones cuz playing it smoothly was kinda impossible.

So you must grab the a phone with the greatest benchmark, cuz benchmark shows the power of hardware, cuz we all know there's gonna be android 5 and even more in a year or two, and like the desire, the now high end phones, time will come to get replaced. And what I mean is you must buy a phone which will survive longer than, I don't know, the Sensation, cuz you know their chips well get old sooner ,perhaps their old already, than the new S4 or Tegra 3 chips and by then like the desire there will be thread among their threads saying "The time for change has come stick with your old fellas or getting a brand new SGS IV or HTC (something)?"!!
[Desire General] erklat:
So you're saying that if we translate this to the pc, 3DMark performance equals how smooth will you be able to play your games?
[Desire General] sudkcoce:
I wanted to move on to one x, but ever since I have installed miui xj, I don't have the need for anything else... I love this rom. So, I guess I'll wait for the next generation of smart phones... ;-)
[Desire General] cronus101:
This makes no sense. Care to reword it? And if you are trying to say that a high benchmark number equates to better performance or usability, then you have a lot to learn.
[Desire General] Alien2653:
I've not work with that but in mobile phones the answer is yes but the thing I'm talking about is as I said in long term right now most of the dual cores and better devices can do all the stuff that can be done on a mobile device but what will happen in two years, the normal dual cores well be goners and the only devices which would survive will be the S4s and quad cores cuz the way tech is moving it's not so far away the time that we well play Assassins Creed Brotherhood on our mobile devices and by then the once great desire is gonna be like how N95 is now, once great now disaster,a low end device which will have no place in smart phones.

So this what I get from benchmarks, the inner performance the power of cpu and gpu and how they act with other phone's aspects like the resolution of the display, unleashed because right now there is no game or app to take the total power of the phone but in near future it will do you must think ahead.
[Desire General] Alien2653:
Thanks I took care of that (maybe made it worse)

And yeah I believe in what I have wrote that benchmarks show the true power of the phones unleashed cuz today apps can't take total advantage of the quad cores and S4, so teach me if I'm wrong.
[Desire General] cronus101:
Benchmarks are numbers. Take the desire for example. When I first heard about the 'usefulness' of benchmarks, I ran them on my desire and got values ranging from around 500 to 2000. At the 2000 level, my phone lagged and was unresponsive at times. Between 500 - 1000, it was normal. I hope you get what I'm saying.
[Desire General] Peacemaker666:
I think that wasn't a bad choice either. I don't know if I could get a better contract than the one I have at the moment. Maybe the mobile data flat could get cheaper. And there's still a huge community for the Desire here. I would have used it as a phone for festivals, if I hadn't wrecked the simcard slot when using an adapter for my micro sim. :-(

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9300 mit Tapatalk 2
[Desire General] Alien2653:
of course if you overclock you're phone too much it will start lagging, rebooting and the worst case scenario its cpu get badly harmed but that's not the case on the benchmarks of stock phones.

If I'm wrong tell me.
[Desire General] cronus101:
You are missing the point. Numbers don't equal usability. It doesn't matter if one stock phone has a better benchmark number than another.
[Desire General] Alien2653:
Now I got the idea but if that's the case how can we choose a phone and be sure of the performance it gonna offer to us?
[Desire General] erklat:
By the specs. You buy your phone for the present tense. In the future tense it will be a piece of electronic junk either way, so numbers are rendered obsolete.
[Desire General] Alien2653:
But cpu and gpu are part of specs and how can we figure out whether Novathore is better or S4?

That's when I go for benchmarks, what's an alternative way?
[Desire General] cronus101:
'Expert' reviews, user reviews and then go to a store and have a play around with the phone.
[Desire General] jmitr:
+1 on this,

The Desire was one of the highest specced HTC phones at the time of release. This statement is of course subjective based on hardware versus software. The Desire is basically the Nexus One with sense, and a "new improved optical trackpad". For all the flamers out there, that last is from reviews of the time.

Hardware marches forward. Today, the One V is shipping with a similiar clocked processor (albeit newer with a better GPU), great camera, beats, much slimmer and lighter, better screen, much improved battery life etc. This phone outclasses the desire and desire HD, yet it is today's budget handset.

The One series will look just as obsolete as the desire two years from now.

Erklat said it best, buy now for your current needs.
[Desire General] imcat:
I hate the trend towards bigger and bigger phones. It is verging on the rediculous. The desire was about the optimal size for me but most new decent phones have just got bigger. The HTC One S is probably the one that interests me the most but I cannot justify the price. It really doesn't have that much more in functionality than a rooted Desire can have. Until the phone breaks I will probably stick with the Desire for now.
[Desire General] jmitr:
Agreed, Take the One V, put in an S4 and a gig of ram.......perfect
[Desire General] thejosh86:
I've moved on from the trusty old Desire to a One XL and pretty happy with my decision...

It served me well for 2 years...

It feels weird holding the Desire now but not to worry, it's not going to waste my sister is now the proud owner.

Thanks to the community and developers for making this such a great device over the years.

Sent from my HTC One XL 32GB
[Desire General] jmitr:
Your signature line says "Sent from my HTC One XL 32GB", there is no such thing. The One X has a quad core tegra and 32gb. The One XL has a dual core krait and 16gb.

EDIT. Well sh**, I just checked the HTC Australia site and your One XL does indeed come with 32gb. The North American One XL (at&t and Rogers) are gimped at 16gb...............now that really pisses me off! If North America only got 16gb because of google music.....hey HTC, Canada doesn't get that! Grrrrrrrrrrr.

Alright, time for a BBQ and a beer, and reflect on if the future involves going Samsung instead of HTC.
[Desire General] touch of jobo:
I recently got myself a OneS and it is a very worthy successor to the Desire.

Had been eligible for upgrade for well over 6 months but found nothing enough of a step up, until now.

-Jobo
[Desire General] thejosh86:
How did you think I felt - I went and bought the 16GB version from HK told myself it would be enough and they just got mixed up once it was released they'd say it was a typo but it was no typo so I went out and renewed the contract for the 32GB version... Definitely worth it :)

Sent from my HTC One XL 32GB
[Desire General] jmitr:
Man, glad it worked out in the end!
[Desire General] aaa:
Just received my SGS3 a few days ago. :)

YEAH!!
[Desire General] dgattenb:
Just sold my desire, I oddly feel a bit bad about it, as if I'm going behind my wife's back! I have a xperia s now, good phone very nice screen.. Would I feel the same if I got rid of this phone?? Currently it has to be a no... Sorry Sony, you have not got that slightly misaligned button thing that the desire had, and the over all tankness, and the XS sides are square, not curved and sexy
[Samsung Infuse 4G] rszasz:
I haven't been able to find the explanation why the update was pulled. Does anyone have a short version of what was broken?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] xIC-MACIx:
Some ppl were having touch screen issues and other minor bugs i'm sure. Although, I think AT&T announced it too soon and Samsung just released the latest leak as official...pure speculation though lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dman3285:
The whole update was broken...it was ****.... flash a custom rom you'll come out better
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Ryanscool:
Screen unresponsive, some phones would not update with certain software. About it.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] rszasz:
I guess the next question I have is the simplest way to take what I have now and move it to a GB install. My main goal is to keep all my SMS and MMS, and have an easy time reinstalling my purchased apps. I was planning on going with the latest ZEUS, it has bluetooth, dock audio output, and, the camera works I assume :) Thanks for taking the time to answer the main question, helping me with the SMS/MMS storage/recovery would be wonderful if you have a sec
[Samsung Infuse 4G] marty331:
SMS Backup+ will do the trick and its free. No get your butt on CM7.

CM7 Infuse - XDA Premium
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dde333:
That's weird. I have it and am using it now w/o prob. I got rooted version so it stays rooted. Will post it from pc when home later if u still want it.

EDIT: I got it and did it from this → www theandroidsoul com/rooted-uclb3-infuse-4g-cwm/

[insert . in place of space]

ORIG from this site here → http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1508619

So, I'm verrrry new and don't know if this helps or not...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ammm84:
Hello!

In order to became root, I'm trying to downgrade my European Desire Z, following your guide

I have make a (big) mistake, installing T-Mobile G2 ROM, instead of Desire Z one. It tuns on without normally, on froyo, but home, menu, back, search, and trackpad keys doesn't work.

I have tried to repeat the process of the guide, but in the step:

$ /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start FAA90000 -end FFFFFFFF

or

$ /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start 10000000 -end 1FFFFFFF

$ /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start 20000000 -end 2FFFFFFF

$ /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start 30000000 -end 3FFFFFFF

$ /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start F0000000 -end FFFFFFFF

$ /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start E0000000 -end EFFFFFFF

It can't explot the device, and cannot became temp root. So, I can't change software version.

I get permroot using Visionary + 14 (got superuser icon on my menu), but when I access to adb shell, I don't get # as the administrator, do I can't change software version.

Does anybody have some idea to change the software version number and get my device working again?

Thanks! And sorry about my bad english
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android_Monsters:
Can you get into flashboot and flash the right rom?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ilbeppez:
Can't you reboot in recovery and flash a new rom?

Just use clockwork and try.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ammm84:
When I try to run in recovery mode, the device draws a little phone with a red exclamation in the center of the screen. But doesn't boot. I'm at the officce now. When I arrive home, I'll try both solutions

Thanks for your help Android_Monsters and ilbeppez ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
That's the stock recovery. You need another key combination to get past that screen into the next one. I can't remember what that is though, and don't have stock recovery on my phone to try.

Edit - I think it's Power and Volume Up that you have to press (together).

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ammm84:
I have tried to flash the right rom via flashboot, but when I type:

fastboot-windows flash zip StockRom.zip

I get an error telling: remote:

02 remote data lenght is too large

Any clue?

I have read something about different partitions on G2 and Desire Z. May this be the problem?

Some data about my device:

VISION PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.82.0000

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
what software number?

if you already did the downgrade, you should be able to gain perm root and s-off using this guide:

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD

i dont think it matters that you flashed the g2 rom, as long as the firmware version isn´t higher than 1.22
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ammm84:
Ok, I'm going to try to perm root and S-OFF now.

The device has 1.22 software (I think: Android version 2.2, build number:1.22 )

But...If doesn't matters G2 rom to be flashed, why doesn't the front keys work?? (home, menu, back, search and trackpad)

What about this?: Note also that the dz, g2, and dhd each use their own version of the engineering boot, as the phones are partitioned differently. (If you have previously installed the wrong HBOOT for your phone, you may need to reflash everything after partition 18)

Thanks for all again!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nipqer:
From memory that error means you're trying to flash a G2 rom onto a DZ (or the other way round), or you're trying to do it in hboot rather than fastboot mode.

Do you see a black screen with a silver htc logo when you try run the fastboot flash command?

-Nipqer
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ammm84:
Yes Nipqer. I have a Desire Z. I'm trying to downgrade in order to became root. But I make a mistake flashing the G2 PC10IMG.zip into device. Now my DZ thinks that he is a G2, but front keys doesn't work.

Yes, when I'm trying to run the command, silver htc logo is on the screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nipqer:
You can still root using the wiki instructions if your on g2 froyo.

You shouldn't have used visionary, its evil.

If you perm-root using the wiki, you can then flash a dz hboot following these instructions

-Nipqer