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[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nas81:
Guys sorry I'm still a noob in this kinda thing... Just wanna ask if anyone can show me STEP-BY-STEP how to push install 'application not installed' apps into system using root explorer. I tried copy the file into /system/app and already changed the permission to rw-r-r, and after that I'm kinda blurred cuz dunno to install ORIGINAL or COPY file. And by using file explorer or root explorer to install the file? For example I want to change stock launcher to other launcher, but still fail until now. thanks...;)
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidx8:
It seems to be you want arc launcher,right? First, install original active launcher, then arc launcher,it will replace active and will work.

+1 When it says app not installed, try other app.

If not arc launcher, sorry for spam.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nas81:
Well thats 1 example and I actually want to install Xperia S launcher and theme. Anyway thanks mate!!!
[HTC Sensation] Kevin001111:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...t-be-receiving-full-sense-4-instead-lite-3-6/
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
I still think it'll come. HTC said the same thing about Sense 3.0 last year. Besides, the One V can run Sense 4...so can the Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Jikstah:
"Considering that a phone like the Sensation (which features a 1.2GHz dual-core processor, 768MB of RAM and 4GB of internal storage), can’t run Sense 4 smoothly, it’s better this way."

Wow, are you serious? CAN'T RUN SENSE 4.0 SMOOTHLY!? I call BS, the new One series has specs close to the Sensation and your telling me it cant run smoothly? smh. And i thought they said 4.0 was supposed to be lighter? da fuq.
[HTC Sensation] adolfo778:
thats why theres roms :cool:
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
From the original source of this story, Recombu.com, via phonearena.com, via droiddog.com:
[HTC Sensation] Annonymous26:
what?!even HTC one V was able to handle it

HTC sensation with dual core not able to handle it?

HTC also did mention that sense 4.0 will be lighter than sense 3.X

now they telling us our phone cant handle it?

HTC learn from apple please!

they are still updating thier older iphone product to latest generation IOS

they wont leave thier older product to the death!

HTC wake up!place customer first!not your new product first!your sales been slowing down!Do something and win customer's heart back!
[HTC Sensation] twomix9900:
Fairly positive the V has sense 3.6
[HTC Sensation] Annonymous26:
V had sense 4.0 according to HTC website
[HTC Sensation] g1user101:
It will come to sensation trust htc will roll it out sooner or later and if not, once we have the one s rom, we will have a proper rom cuz they are almost identixal phones
[HTC Sensation] adolfo778:
its all for marketing purposes so you can buy the new phones

I remember them saying that Sense 3.5 would only be usable on dual core phones which was not true at all Had a Mytouch 4g running a Sense 3.5 rom with no bugs and great speed

plus its time consuming for them to update "old phones"
[HTC Sensation] Nick L:
Plus, remember that the new camera features are a big part of Sense 4, which probably requires hardware that only the One series has (what they refer to as the "latest hardware innovations"). They would have to take that out before giving Sense 4 to our phones, which would take time away from the more important task of getting the One series ready for sale.

HTC never said themselves that the Sensation can't run it smoothly, that was just the website's assumption. It doesn't necessarily rule out us getting Sense 4 eventually, but I would not expect it to come anywhere near, and certainly not before, the release of the One series.
[HTC Sensation] Pikabat:
Yeah I remember that part, HTC said something about special imaging chip that allows to capture images during videos. I think that requires specific hardware.

Still they can upgrade software part of other things that dont depend on hardware, like new Sense launcher , themes etc.

Other option is that HTC probably knows that devs gonna port it anyways so they might as well let community to tinker with it
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
i don't htink so...it will come this summer or later but it will....
[HTC Sensation] leeznon:
IMO

It will come with everything in 4.0 except the 25GB dropbox and new camera features.
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
Sensation specs close to the One? What have you been smoking? lol...it has much newer chipset technology, and will sh*t all over the Sensation crappy chipset....
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
the_scotsman, you just ninjad me...

Krait > Scorpion by far, just look at the Nenamark2 results:

HTC Sensation: ~44 FPS (avg, trying to eliminate custom roms).

HTC One S: 59.4 FPS limited by 60 FPS, i.e. this test does not utilize this chip's full power.

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2
[HTC Sensation] secano:
You're as excited as me to dump the Sensation for a One X, right? :)
[HTC Sensation] android167:
As i saw on some videos on youtube. One V has 3.6 Sense, it looks the same as the 4.0, but there is no 3D effects in Sense launcher, that's the only thing i saw that is different than One S and X.
[HTC Sensation] BurnRubber90:
Let's start trolling on HTC like Desire users did :P
[HTC Sensation] Animatedhitman:
OMG I cant run sense 4.0 on my N95 or my samsung d500 or my sony tv nor does my iphone. do you hear my complian about that..No and i tell you why

personally couldnt care if my sensation is running sense 4.0 sense 3.0 or sense 2.1. what i want is a phone i can make calls on and send texts.. have a screen that doesnt have a green hint on it when it comes to take a picture..

companys make money by bring out new stuff on there new phones what i think HTC is doing wrong is not fixing the problems with there old phones before bringing out a new phone..

Im sure some smart Dev with bring out sense 4.0 oneday for the sensation but are you really going to bycot HTC for wanting to make money....
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
The OneV doesn't have "full sense 4.0" evidently but no one was able to play with a working model at MWC really to be able to state the exact differences. If the single core chip is an S4 then ur dual core S3 doesn't matter as much since the V will also have the image chip which no other devices have right now besides the One series phones...

A lot of unknowns with the V series in terms of all sense 4.0 features it has and the chip on board...
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Ditto....this is something people are going to.need to pay attention to in future esp when comparing say a quad core to a dual core phone...like tegra3 vs dual core S4....some think still the tegra is better hands down....smh lol
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Where r the vids of the V? All I saw were vids showing the dummy unit which wasn't working on the V...
[HTC Sensation] Moon2:
Just had a look at their demo video for the One V over here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yDMTPPA78U

The UI looked exactly the same as sense 4.0 from One X, but towards the end, it shows the homescreen being scrolled and there's no effect at all when doing so.
[HTC Sensation] taffypride:
even if Sense 4.0 doesn't officially come from HTC for our Senny's, I have faith in the Great Devs of XDA to produce the goods necessary to actually port over from one of the ONE Series phones...

Hell, we've nearly got the Endeavour (One X) rom resized to run on our Senny, and 'He Who Shall Not Be Named' apparently has bluetooth working and has optimized it to use our chipset as opposed to the Tegra3 chipset...

Sod HTC....let's crack some nuckles and do it ourselves... we have the power :)
[HTC Sensation] playerha:
From my point of view this sentences make you a moron.

Sorry to tell you bro but why did you buy a smartphone in the first place?

Buy yourself a mobile phone, make calls, send texts and stop writing on xda.

You can't run Sense on a Nokia N95 or a Samsung d500 or your Sony Tv because these devices dont have the hardware to run Sense 4.

Our Sensation has the hardware and a dev will port it sooner or later - that's not a thing to question. The question is when.

HTC lets a phone "die" because they can't move their lazy asses to hire someone who mods the software to make it work on the Sensation.

If that's the case my next phone will be a Nexus.

Regards
[HTC Sensation] KurtAngle2:
I'm sure HTC will somehow port Sense 4.0 to its Sensation lineup (especially the latest ones), else it would be a huge disappointment for all HTC customers (I don't really care after all, there's XDA for this)
[HTC Sensation] Kevin001111:
There are already Sense 4.0 roms out for the sensation, go check out rootzwiki!
[HTC Sensation] 22VIN:
I'm f**king tired of this crap...

I used to own an LG P500. I modded it because stock was way too slow, and custom roms and kernels were the only solution. I said ok, I like Android, but I'm tired of modding my phone (always updating kernels, always making backups, always reinstalling apps when changing roms etc) so I'll buy one of the best droids out there in order to have nice update support and absolutely no performance issues without modding it. So I bought this one and I'm really disappointed. It was a f**king flagship until a few days ago and now they're already calling it old and dropping latest updates because it can't handle them.

F**k this, this is no way of treating customers who paid lots of money for your best device. We can't just spend lots of money every few months just to benefit from your latest software.

I disliked Apple, but now I'm starting to feel sorry about not getting the iPhone. Even a 3 year old device gets the latest OS.

Android is such a nice platform, but too bad it's being sold with phones made by a*sholes.
[HTC Sensation] Ceed19:
I downloaded a rom with sense 4.0. even though it was slow, i was able to take pictures while shooting video
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Umm no the 3yr old iphones are not getting the new iOS....least not all the features....like Siri....would u rather HTC just name it 4.0 instead of 3.6? In a sense that's what apple would do. Only difference is a some theming...
[HTC Sensation] verynuclear:
I don't like sense look at all.

Blue AOSP is better than ugly green sense.
[HTC Sensation] masondoctorjt:
First of all, even the iPhone 4 didn't get all the features of the iPhone4s, so don't go there, sensation IS getting ICS along with an updated sense, so chill, and apparently HTC did learn from Apple as they took away the removable battery and micro sd card slot with the new one devices. Happy now?
[HTC Sensation] TorpedoGirl:
I totally agree with you.
[HTC Sensation] Jikstah:
I was basing my thesis off the One V ffs. -_-
[HTC Sensation] 44alphabeT:
This is what I want to say!
[HTC Sensation] GazaIan:
HTC pulled the same **** when they said Sense 3.0 needs dual core devices, then came out with that tiny little low end HTC Explorer.... So, you know the deal. If they're serious, then we throw HTC's corporate building in the nearest ocean.

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Gotta agree here but I still wouldn't go for an iPhone. I'd move on to WP7 if this **** keeps happening.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
They still updated the Incredible S, Desire S, and Desire HD to Sense 3.0 ... and those phones will be getting Sense 3.5 too.

I'm pretty sure the Sensation will see Sense 4.0, just not as feature packed because of the totally new camera interface for the One phones.
[HTC Sensation] kanav bhasin:
Oi.. you are getting i.c.s with a revamped version of sense. Comeon man, all this nonsense about sense 4.0. Please tell me what features are there in 4.0 that you are just dying to get for your sensation that 3.6 doesnt have?? Htc said that versions of sense uptil 3.5 were bloated as hell. That should mean 3.6 should be somewhat of an improvement. Look at samsung who blatantly refused i.c.s for the galaxy s on the other hand work has already started to get the ics updates for the dhd and thunderbolt. Honestly sense 4.0 should not be such a big deal cuz hey .. its i.c.s
[HTC Sensation] slovoflud:
I've got both: the 4s and a Sensation and use the sensation as my main phone and use the iPhone to play some games untill they come out on Android :-)

I don't want to get started on the whole iOS/Android thing, but iOS devices get partially(!) updated because updates are so incremental compared to android jumps. Also, centralized Apple system helps. :D
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
What they mean with the hardware thing, is that the new HTC One has a dedicated imaging processing chip. sensation doesn't.
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
The only way:

Protest to HTC. This is what DHD users did, and they got Sense 3.0.
[HTC Sensation] soron109:
htc thinks the money we paid for sensation isn't enough to handle sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
Just like they did with the DHD :p

They said it wasn't worthy for Sense 3.0, but it WAS.

After being pestered by their customers, HTC gave in... You can do the same for Sensation + Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
I'm amazed that some people think they are "entitled" to get Sense 4 on the Sensation....that's utter nonsense...
[HTC Sensation] abuserkadayf:
what is everyone fretting about...when sense 4.0 officialy comes out... there will be 1000% a port for it for the Sensation... and the Sensation not being able to handle sense 4.0 is just marketing bull**** ..
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
Luckily, the Sensation shares similarities with the One S (qHD screen) however, it has the older S3 CPU compared to the better S4
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Oh yeah? When did the sensation get a dedicated camera chip?.....that was a highlight of their event and closely related it to sense4.0 when discussing it more so than the phone itself...
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
i think that apart from the dedicated image processing chip, there haven't been many changes. I think that the sense 4.0 port would be near perfexct.

what exactly does the image processing do? Because the Sensation can already take pictures really fast! maybe it is just the quick shutter mkode?
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
Trip's Sense 4.0 already has a 90% working camera, why is this a concern/
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Because its a concern to them and something they highlighted on and the way they presented it made it seem like they wanted to call it a sense feature more so than the phone. Least that's the impression I got during the livestream feed I watched....like he called it all imagesense and such when referring to that set of features in sense...

Bc without the chip you don't get many of the camera features they had like the speed of it and such.

If the two versions were built in parallel then it makes a lot of sense why they have differences like white/black menus, app drawer, and others that could of easily been included in their ICS OTA for current devices. But at this point its likely not worth it to them to spend $/time to work those differences in...
[HTC Sensation] Pikabat:
So what? Devs are working hard and when One S is out we'll definitely have a working Sense 4 ROM

Just take a look at this early version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4VjrN07OHMY
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Wasn't debating that in the slightest bit. I think we all know the devs here will eventually get Sense 4.0 on current devices...
[HTC Sensation] q9650:
Uuhm, as far as i remember, HTC also said the XE has a Chip for the beats mod...lol
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
Source please.
[HTC Sensation] 22VIN:
The 3GS got iOS5. The Desire appeared one year later and it didn't even get GB.

Yes, the 4 didn't get Siri, but for me (and 2/3 of the world) Siri is useless because I won't talk in english/french/german to my phone.

Sorry, I'm not trying to turn this into an Apple discussion but I'm really really pissed that I spent a lot of money on a high-end device and now I feel like I own an antique.

F*ck, even the Nokia N8 gets the latest Symbian. Crappy as it is, it has the latest software.
[HTC Sensation] Pikabat:
Take it easy dude. As it was mentioned 1000 times One S is pretty close to Sensation and when its officially out with 4.0 it wont take too long for devs to port it
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
Hope we will get that ruu soon! Can't look forward to seeing sense 4 fully working!
[HTC Sensation] 22VIN:
I was talking about stock. I know what devs can pull but as I said, the main reason I bought a high end device is because I didn't want to mod my device so I can get the newest software anymore. I just wanted a nice, fast, bug-free and warranty-safe device.
[HTC Sensation] yaddamean:
All I see is a bunch of people crying. Seriously, HTC is not obligated to give you anything. If I buy a computer with Windows 7, am I entitled to a free upgade to Windows 8 when it releases? Geeez lay off HTC they dont owe you jack****. You paid a ton of money for a phone, I get it, but you got the product in return. Not some promise that you will keep getting the latest and greatest.
[HTC Sensation] Pikabat:
Not all devs customize their ROMs like crazy , if its working great and has stock look (ARHD for instance) why do you care if its official or not? Besides this phone is almost 1 year old and technology is moving fast. What HTC has done is nothing new in this industry. We should at least be thankful when ICS comes to Sensation by the end of this month we're gonna be the first users to get official ICS besides Nexus
[HTC Sensation] dexter93:
We'll eventually get sense 4.. or sense 3.9/whatever similar to 4, customized for our chipset. Chill out guys
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
You can't compare apple to HTC as your comparing one device getting updates to all of HTC's devices. HTC doesn't have the $ apple does to spend on that kind of development to do that for all or even most of them.

A better/fair comparison would be comparing iphones to nexus devices.
[HTC Sensation] efebe:
If u lived in the HTC HD2 era, you'll see that "impossible is nothing" ... a phone that wasnt supposed to run a lot of stuff cuz its hardware specs, its been able to run almost anything that can be run on it... WP7, WM6.5, every single version of android, ubuntu, etc... now tell me its impossible to run Sense 4.0 on the sensation!
[HTC Sensation] g1user101:
True! Sensation has almost everything. Just missing a stable sense 4.0 and cm and aosp
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
We have some relatively stable CM and AOSP roms. CM7 works fine, CM9-based roms are out there. Trip's roms and Virtuous Inquisition runs fine, but I'm concerned about Virtuous because as much as I dislike Trip, it's obvious they kanged his Sense 4 rom.
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
i have just read that htc sensation will get a simplified version of the sense 4.0 due to hardware problems...
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
Err....that's what we'e been discussing in this whole thread...
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
i know :) just to remember it...:D joke apart, it seems they have confirmed this
[HTC Sensation] dexter93:
What's happening is exactly what happened back in the desire days.. when the hd,z came out with the new sense .. if we put some pressure, we'll get more than 3.6
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
yep :) we have to go to HTC with some bazooka and other weapons screaming "we want sense 4" :D
[HTC Sensation] MARCO310791:
http://recombu.com/news/htc-sense-40---full-version-wont-be-coming-to-the-htc-sensation-line_M17125.html

HTC statement: "HTC Sense brings a variety of new software enhancements to HTC One, some of which utilize the latest hardware innovations, meaning not all functionality can be introduced to older HTC Devices. With that said, we are looking to bring a Sense 4 software update that includes as many of the enhancements as possible to a variety of our new devices."

Now the question is...What features will be included and what will be excluded?
[HTC Sensation] AayushDhuria:
2/3rd? HTC sensation will get ICS! but not Sense 4.0 probably !

more than 3/4th to me, technology is moving fast you see, enjoy it rather than sticking to oldass apple iPhones :D, 800mhz dual core, I mean seriously? xD

Sorry for staring this Apple vs Android thingy, but couldn't resist!
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
I know what you mean! I always do that too! :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] efebe:
Maybe they dont wanna make some extra work to make sense 4.0 work on devices such as our Sensation and stuff like that... but there is always a way to make it work, as i said before, miracles have happened on this site, take a look at HD2 and u'll see what i mean... But i can assure you, the great devs here will make it happen ;)
[HTC Sensation] AayushDhuria:
We already have Virtous Sense 4.0 ROM, It's resized coz it's from endeavor's (One-X) ROM,

It'll be easy to port as One S have same qHD resolution :D

I don't care if it's unofficial or official, but we'll get Sense 4.0 :)

I think people here need Common *SENSE* more than Sense UI :P

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Oh yeah, lol

It's hard to convince brain deads though, so I just let 'em suffer and say 'You'll be fine one day' :D
[HTC Sensation] EricDET:
I originally thought we wouldnt see Sense 4.0 until I saw the Desire HD IS getting ICS. The Sensation is this generations Halo phone. HTC has proven they will stick with their high end products till the end. This phone is everywhere.
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
The desire HD came with froyo and sense 2.1, correct? And they're updating it to ICS with which sense version?

We'll probably get the next sense when the new version of Android comes out probably? :confused:
[HTC Sensation] AayushDhuria:
devs will port sense 4.0 soon, let HTC one s ROMs come, even if HTC will give sense 4.0, devs will port before it !
[HTC Sensation] Ivanstein:
"Considering that a phone like the Sensation can’t run Sense 4 smoothly, it’s better this way."

Translation:

We can't figure out a way to cram all the excessive bloatware that third party vendors pay us overtly insane amounts of money to stuff down your throat on older devices that don't have a processor large enough to keep up with all the private and sensitive data we collect and the airpush ads that suck the life out of a phone faster than salt out of a slug. Otherwise, it would run on a PPC6700 and WinMo 5.
[HTC Sensation] mijo_tz:
"HTC Sense brings a variety of new software enhancements to HTC One, some of which utilize the latest hardware innovations, meaning not all functionality can be introduced to older HTC Devices. With that said, we are looking to bring a Sense 4 software update that includes as many of the enhancements as possible to a variety of our new devices."

When Sensation comes up HTC announcement was that older devices not geting Sense 3.0 due variety of new software enhancements to HTC Sensation, some of which utilize the latest hardware innovations, but now HTC Desire HD run official Sense 3.0.

I think is only commercial trick to sell more devices of one series, and probably in summer we will get official sense 4 for sensation and other older phones.

But thanks to xda we will get all working Sense 4 very soon
[HTC Sensation] dr.m0x:
Yeah exactly, was running sense 3 on my desire HD shortly after the session came out.
[HTC Sensation] richard1226:
All that crap talk and that's that. Iur dual core sensation couldn't "support" sense 4 and i will not get the update even HTC force me.

Honestly i love the ics and all its features. I got my younger brother's Motorola Defy to get CM9 ICS rom and it works great, despite the not working camera and fm radio......

BTW what's the notable difference between sense 3.6 and 4.0??? I am confused truly......

At the end of the day, I say that all HTC Sensation User not getting the ICS update and we will root our phone to get our own ICS rom, that's it.
[HTC Sensation] slovoflud:
seriously?

have you used/seen the two?