yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
Can't say that you shouldn't. I prefer the truth ;). And the truth is that there are plenty roms out there, but most of them wasn't good enough for me. Very few Gingerbreads barely made it (look at my signature), and three ICS's would if finished (including Blackout, which is the closest) - but Ice Cold isn't deved anymore, aospX isn't tweaked that much I need (and still aosp, so no htc apps there), only Blackout made it, nearly ;). Never tested any Jelly though. And since I've found Blackout, I suppose I won't soon. Maybe I will still test Ice Cold if there will be _any_ update... but I doubt that updates will be anything but cosmetic changes.

Yep, to get busy yes, but to get stable system, not a chance. Or you will get stable one without much features you've had in Gingerbread.

My batt is almost same old and does it very well :). Cant say anything bad about HTC hardware so far. Had two phones of their production, and so far, both are alive, and like new. A pity that Tocuh HD cannot be androided any way (it's too slow while on SD, a very very slow, but maybe on internal would be either as it has low mem and half of the cpu ;) ).
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
You forgot thanks on my part.. LOL... Love Live the Big K...
[Desire HD Android Development] rdub504:
So would I be mistaken to flash the virtuous kernel over the beta 1 Rom to see if the battery spikes improve?
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
If you make a Nandroid backup, I see no reason not to give it a try.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD powered by Blackout ICS Incredible
[Desire HD Android Development] rdub504:
It's done,I will let you know the results once I have some available.
[Desire HD Android Development] hadi_xman:
Is Skype working in this rom.?

As when i make call there is rattling noise..can't listen a single word..

Help me out..
[Desire HD Android Development] rdub504:
If you are using 3.1.0 then it is a known issue that should be fixed in the next update.
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
The battery spikes happen on jellybean and ics. I'm sure it's something google is working on.
[Desire HD Android Development] saru789:
i would personally recommend you to try Jellytime R12.

Why R12 and not the latest R18.2, cos i havent tested it and versions after R12 did annoyed me too, but its fairly reliable rom, can be a perfect daily driver. Black screens in latest versions and random reboots is what u would hate too, like i do, i can say 18.2 can be a good shot, but not before flashing myself, and the best part is that its only around 170MB in size so wouldnt take more than half an hour to have it in ur phone once u r decided.

And one more thing, on my class 4 SD card, it gives over 10mb/s write speed while transferring files from pc..
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
As i promised i'd test a hd game and report for all you pk-ers ;) out there, 3.2 test 2, game wild blood (anyone not informed game uses unreal engine), o/ced to 1401 just in case and finnaly, game running absolutely perfect so no worries for any gamer (except for me :( still waiting for fully playable nds gaming).
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
I don't know. I think it must be a hardware specific issue that does not affect all devices (maybe HTC used different components for some phones.

Stuck in my old battery, not yet properly calibrated. The heavy use you see there is just web browsing on 3G.

I really cannot seem to find spikes no matter what I do. Even on other ROM's where users also report spikes.
[Desire HD Android Development] rdub504:
So far so good,with the virtuous kernel on the beta 1 version.I did flash with a lower battery life to see if once the full drain was completed if it would force close at the correct time,and it did,as I mentioned days ago the battery would still have almost 2hrs of life after reboot with no charge.I have seen no large change in stats after wake or if charge is stopped prior to full charge.

I would still like to see a few more battery cycles before I rush to judgement. This was an idea I bounced off of roberto_lim at like 2am. central u.s. Time,after reading a few other forums.this guy must live on the other side of the world or he is nocturnal like me."he may be from the twilight saga" So thanks to him for the help and and being willing to give good feedback!

So at this point this is not confirmed,but looks to be promising.I will continue to keep everyone posted once I have more information.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
But slow man, you are so slow with the reports... next time we should tell the Team to find a faster tester :cowboy:

Just kidding bobix86... Good morning to you. Just wanted to get your blood boiling for a bit :angel:

What governor you running at 1.4 GHz?

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I did :eek: Careful, these days with our phones, we can read this forum and reply from anywhere.... like in a bar after our seventh beer :laugh: Seriously, I have even flashed a ROM on one boring coffee night without telling anyone.

Seriously, if you make a Nandroid backup, testing stuff is no biggie. If the new kernel is not good you can flash another kernel or Reboot > Recovery > Full Wipe > Restore Backup (done in 5-10 minutes).
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
Yeah I'm not sure the exact issue but for me it only happens when I reboot phone. It will spike up about 20 percent and then drain real fast probably due to false reading. Other people have it happen to them during use so it does seem to variate between different devices.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
I get reboot spikes too. But that is really not an issue. Electronic devices do not actually measure the battery, they base the remaining battery life figure on an estimate from previous use. Hence, the need to recalibrate once in awhile so the phone realizes the true range of the battery.

Just rebooted my phone with the old battery (which is still good, but down to about 65% of original capacity), and battery life spiked 14%.
[Desire HD Android Development] rdub504:
Would someone like to read this conversation,I found this while researching the issue,its going to take someone with more knowledge of the in's and outs of the system,I'm more of a trial & error crash test dummy.

http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/android/f/509/t/192462.aspx
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
I would get very minor spikes on stock Rom but not 20 percent. That's a huge difference for me and definitely a noticeable difference on ics and jb roms. Also the fact that other people report similar but worse reactions tell me it's a unique ics/jb issue. It's just been mentioned too many times to write off as a "common" hardware quirk.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
Just so no one gets the wrong impression.

ATTACHED IMAGE IS USING A OLD AND UNCALIBRATED BATTERY WITH A SPIKE AFTER A REBOOT. BATTERY IS AT 65% OR SO. PHONE IS CALIBRATED FOR A BATTERY WHICH IS NEW.

The OS corrects the reading quickly enough. Saw the same thing on GB, but yes, we were talking 1-3% with GB.
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
Thats not a spike. A spike literally looks like an upside down icicle on your battery stats. That is indeed a normal adjustment by the O.S. that is not the issue I am referring to.

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To add

the fact that people get them while just using the phone and not rebooting or charging shows it's definitely a problem. I've see pics where there are multiple ones too within just a few hours of use. Never even heard of these spikes until ics came out and now the same thing on jellybean.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
:D Sorry, this is the most I have see.

Seen splke's on Virtuous Infinity, but only on first or maybe even second charge cycle, but that is all. Some of those may have been reboot spikes too. I was not taking notes.

I think all this is more of a reporting issue than any real issue with the battery.
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
Yes I definitely think it's not a battery problem. It's something in the software. As for why some people get it worse and some don't get it at all is above me. That's where I assume variations in hardware might play a role, but that's just a guess.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
Hhhmmm... old battery is showing spikes at the last 50% of its life (last 30%, compared to a new battery).

Will charge, and test again.
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
Yeah that's exactly what I've seen. It will spike up and then down at random times but otherwise follow a steady decline. Almost looks like a heart monitor :P
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
Never got that with the newer battery, and this is the first time the old battery meets ICS.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD

x x x x x

Just to complete the picture show. Below is an image of the battery after it is recharge. Straight jump from 70% to 100%.

Next picture is battery after being pulled from the charger.

70% or so physically charged, reported as 100% by the OS. Maybe that is the cause of the spikes?
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Don't worry it takes more to get my blood boiling (korean style turn based rpg maybe? ;) ), anyway governor is ondemand.

+1 on expert opinion, but considering someone not having this issue, and variations bettween devices, i still think it is not software related (partialy shared opinion).

About text messed up issue, as some devs replied on this issue, and no offence but i don't want them banging their head over non important things i'll just repeat, that issue never came up in 3.2 beta (the way they replied left me thinking if they are actually trying to fix this or not lol). Still it might need fixing if putting tweaks back in caused it again.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
JRPG, and checking into forums, is what I have been doing in the frequent waiting periods I have during work. Wait, that's off topic. I am into the seventh hour of the game, no crashes or reboots on v3.1. Now it's on topic :rolleyes:

On the text distortion, never seen that one Sense. The man difference with Sense ROM's and AOKP ROM's is that they do not have the option by default to switch font styles. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
Back to the battery spike issue I am kind of inclined to write it off as an due to battery wear. Never seen this kind of thing on my newer battery.

This is another image from the old battery. Heavy use. Downloaded updates for my apps, played a game, for a total of over 2 hours on screen time.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Jackamy:
Wireless hotspot is not working properly
[Desire HD Android Development] Pop Tarantula:
known.. (extremely well known, in fact)

thanks for not reading any of this thread before posting :thumbdown:

Desire HD : * Blackout ICS 3.1.0 * : Tapatalk 2.4
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
All im saying is its a known issue and many people seem to experience it. Not trying to run this thread off topic with pages of useless posts. I don't really care why it happens as it seems to be cosmetic anyways. Was just trying to re assure someone that posted the problem that it isn't an isolated incident. I'm not going to pretend I know anything about how to fix it or what causes it. This is blackout thread so only unique blackout issues should be posted. I feel for the devs cause this thread has become a chat channel.
[Desire HD Android Development] qazsxdcfv:
Yo anyone , the Native App HotSpot not working ? Neither the HotsPot , or the native app not working but the hotspot is working?

Thanks

Sent from my hTC Desire HD powered CM10 by Syngergy(e)™
[Desire HD Android Development] qazsxdcfv:
I'm sorry if i have a bad english ..

, i just want to ask clearly okay ..:D

On the OP said , Hotspot WIP ..

Are this means , the app or the Hotspot driver ?

P.s : - if the app , the wifi hotspot WORKS with 3rd party app

- if the driver means, The Wifi hotspot driver is brokened ..

If this still making you not understand i can't explain more .

Thanks :D

Sent from my hTC Desire HD powered CM10 by Syngergy(e)™
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
It means there has to be changes to the ROM before it works with app or no app. Work in progress.
[Desire HD Android Development] Atrax2010:
Hm...after about a week of using the ROM I noticed some slight problems.

1.- tweaks reset when I reboot ROM

2.- WiFi turns off while the screen is off, even though I've set the "Always on" option in WiFi config.

Other than that, works great.
[Desire HD Android Development] Romburn:
I'm having issues with bluetooth. My DHD never re-connects to my car bluetooth. When it is paired it works fine. If I leave the car then get back in the car and DHD never connect, I have to delete the pairing and re-add.

The same happens with bluetooth and my Nexus7 using Tablet Talk. If I turn off either device or disconnect then they will never find each other again. I have to re-pair to get them to connect.

Anyone else have BT issues?
[Desire HD Android Development] Raistlin1158:
Strange, mine never forgets my cars hands free kit, 3 sets of BT headphones, ,my PC and a laptop.

Also wifi reconnects when I'm in range at work or home without any adjustment, it just gets on the job
[Desire HD Android Development] exec228:
i confirm that

confirm it too: samba filesharing freezes (as seen from computers) when screen is off. when screen on and locked - samba works fine, though shortly before screen turns off.

well, except declared bugs and todos rom is stable, smooth and economical.
[Desire HD Android Development] Romburn:
It is not that it forgets the connection, the pairing is there, it is that they won't connect to each other. I have to delete the pairing and re-add it.

I didn't say I had issues with wi-fi that works fine it is only bluetooth
[Desire HD Android Development] Raistlin1158:
Sorry I was just demonstrating that I have no form of wireless disconnection problems.

Have you checked all the profiles in settings for each device ? :good:
[Desire HD Android Development] Saturn007:
guys, any update on the 3.2 release? I really need to get the voice issues when using viber (and found out the same happens with talkatone)

Is there at least a patch to this issue before 3.2 gets released? really need a fix as need to make some calls.

I downloaded TrickDroid to try out if there is no current patch/fix
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
As stated in pretty much every dev forum I've seen, there is no ETA's. Its impolite to ask. No one is making you use this ROM. If you want to flash trick droid then do it. This is the most stable ice sense ROM you’re going to find though for the dhd. If the bugs are making it unusable, then fall back to gingerbread until all the kinks are worked out. Who knows, they could release it tonight. Not likely, but either way its up to the devs and they aren't going to give any ETA.
[Desire HD Android Development] soleil10:
To be or not to be...
[Desire HD Android Development] hacbaoklhh:
Blackout v3.2:cyclops::cyclops::cyclops:please give me the link to download it :cowboy::cowboy::cowboy:
[Desire HD Android Development] rdub504:
The eagle has landed!
[Desire HD Android Development] AMIR-TUTU:
that link isnt yours pal , you have to wait:good:
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
Thats from Blackout 3.2 Beta/Test 1. After that there was Beta 2/Test 2. I understand there is one more Beta scheduled. I suggest you keep you eyes pealed on this forum and try to see if you can snag that.

Last time the Dev's gave the Beta to the first five PM's to request it. So everyone has a shot at testing. :fingers-crossed:

Good Luck :cyclops:
[Desire HD Android Development] woti23:
anyone brave here?

if you are bored or curious and have adb/terminal skills, you could try this http://classictomatoe.net/dexo-universal-odex-tool/

it re-odexes rom. needs adb (mac,win or linux), and about 100MB free on system partition

what's promised to be achieved?

- speed

- battery life

- impact on data partition

as you may not trust an unknown author on an unkown site, here is another development thread from well known xda developer and author of the tools on xda.

and here a short explanation in the desire s section including a video.

as i cannot use blackout atm because distorted remote voice when calling - i'll try it on desire S sense 3.6 rom and jellybean rom on dhd
[Desire HD Android Development] tonylee000:
When I'm typing in a box in fb for instance, a pop up box appears with things I've already typed in the past as a suggestion I think only I find this a little annoying as I then I cant see what I'm writing, don't know if its a blackout think or a dolphin thing. Anyone know how to turn it off? See attached pic

Sorted it now, was a dolphin thing. Dolphin/settings/privacy/remember form data
[Desire HD Android Development] qazsxdcfv:
Thx for the info :D

much more understand ,... ;)

On Settings > Language & input > Check Off the spelling correction .. :D

I'm just do the best that i can to help ...

Sent from my hTC Desire HD powered CM10 by Syngergy(e)™
[Desire HD Android Development] Raistlin1158:
Try deleting the history in settings (clipboard)
[Desire HD Android Development] tonylee000:
The attached pic was misleading maybe, I was meaning the box that popped up at the top of the pic, not the spelling correction box at the bottom

Sorted it now, was a dolphin thing. Dolphin/settings/privacy/remember form data
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
I've had kernel related SD problem, but I'm not sure which kernel, so I cannot really tell, but I would be careful saying that nandroid secures you well from kernel-harm ;)

Questions:

1. any Sense Jelly for DHD? (I doubt it)

2. is any no-Sense better than Ice Cold? (i mean all the tweaks)

You are not. Told you I observed same strange behavior. The bad news is that it seems to be present _SOMETIMES_ in IceCold which is AOKP, so very different. But it's very rare there. I don;t know if it prooves anything, but just adding another fact.

Will check it. And if you want (and I know you are very adequate person for it), I can give you "my" test2 because I stopped testing after SD scared me to death, so I'm useless now as a tester. Of course I hope that Blackout Team has nothing against...? :) And since you now very much about linux, you will do the same good work as I would do probably or maybe even better.

Wanna try?
[Desire HD Android Development] xSTRIKERx:
Hey can you add support for incredible s please? This rom looks very awesome!
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
What do you mean by "add support"? I can add air support for you if you want, but those pilots we have here are not very accurate, so they could drop a bomb on you too ;P

[edit]

OOOW, I've got it :P. Man, you really could use some separators in the sentence :D. But leaving the "joke" ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Crimson1988:
tried this on sabsa prime phone stuck at boot screen after reodexing

then flashed ARHD 6.3.3 (because always have in sd card) tried reodex process went smooth, rom was working with no problems did not felt any speed or battery improvements tho...

sorry if thats not what you wanted...

dont recommend using it with blackout, reodexing ir for more or less stock roms i think
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
When the team entrusted you with test2 they gave you a "free pass" (i think) to share it with who you please as long as you don't share the link on xda or any part of web where it can be freely downloaded by all, still it's a polite thing to ask first (i wouldn't be giving him the link bryan gave you tough but upload it somewhere and then pm him the link). I didn't disclose the link to anyone nor did i give it to anyone, but basicaly i don't think they would mind, provided you make sure not to abuse it and make it available to mass public. :) (still up to the devs to confirm)

I didn't stop testing it,but not as before as this is more like casual use than real testing. Didn't ecounter any fresh bug to report.

And with due respect to woti23, this rom has great speed and battery life for me, so sorry but i won't be brave enough to risk it. ;)

As for - impact on data partition i didn't quite understand what kind of impact you we're refering to (didn't open the link you posted).
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
I wasn't even referring to you. Me and you have had no interaction.
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
Wanna test for us? shoot me PM
[Desire HD Android Development] QD2DC:
Please don't share link or tests. we like to keep track of who has what. Made one mistake of giving out wrong link already, like to keep this to a minimum whenever possible. We'll ask for testers when we need them...soon.
[Desire HD Android Development] woti23:
i tried it it with sense 3.6 on desire S and jellybean on DHD. took me about 4 minutes to do it.

did NOT notice any speed difference too.

battery i can't say because too short of usage. the battery improvement should come from less cpu usage.

the data impact - because someone asked - is that it frees about 60MB from dalvik-cache (all files beginning with system@....) which is on data partition, and creates about the same amount as *.odex files in /system/app which is on system partition. depends on the size of the system apps of course.
[Desire HD Android Development] rdub504:
I just wanted to update

Everyone on the virtuous kernel that I have flashed with beta1.now on day 3 and no spikes as of yet, and have seen no dancing of the batt. stats, the battery also force closes at correct time at the end of its power cycle.being that this is not a issue for all,do so at your own risk,and create a nandroid back up.this is also recommend in other dhd/i4g ics forums,but will leave it to the devs.of blackout to make the call on listing this as a possible fix for those with these issues. So a field test is done, and all is well,I have made this one of two nandroids I have.

1. No longer seeing spikes or false readings.

2. I See no change's in battery life.

3. No changes in sms,mms messaging.(works)

One more thing,I have used other mods,since those results for testing,so there would be no misleading results.I have flashed a google now mod and pmr. It has not affected the performance at all, if this is helpful to devs at all, not sure? But,it is a sign of a stable rom.for those willing to take risk beyond flashing a rom always read before you act,and nandroid. Hope this helps somehow!
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
And that's why I referred to it in the public and waited for response, to have some feedback from the devs that I sould or not, but since he helped me much right before I've found the solution for SD, I know whom would I be giving test version to. Thanks anyways for suggesting what you think :)

But as QD2DC said:

I'm not going to do this :). Thanks for speaking about it and I suspected before that it's not very nicely seen, but hoped that Woti could be an exception. Since he cannot, I apologize for suggesting :).

By the way - as I have some difficulties on IceCold too which I flashed to have stable daily-usable phone - I will probably tommorow go back on test2. I have now at least a knowledge how to get out from the bad SD situation so if this occurs again, I'll know at least it's not my hardware.

QD2DC - if there is test3 any closer than two/three days and you would like me to test it, just tell me not to flash test2 as this will take time which is quite precious for me right now, and better solution in this case would be to wait short time for test3 :).

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I'm just supporting your spirit, as it is an issue I would like to be fixed too one day :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Gizmoe:
Ahh I see. I misunderstood. :p
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
That's because of your beard and long hair ;) I had both too, shaved myself this summer, and all suddenly went clear! ;) (joking... - about thinggs made clear, not hair&beard :D)