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[General Topics] Hunt3r.j2:
I personally would be okay with sealed internal battery if:

The battery is able to be used for 7-8 hours continuous screen on at 50% brightness, approx 10-12 hours talktime on 3G, and the reason for sealing it is to reduce overall thickness.

Actually removing the battery for maintenance is still easy (no need to pry plastic open, etc.)

There is a reset SWITCH. It can be recessed or in a microSIM slot for all I care, but sometimes you need to keep the phone's battery physically disconnected from the system for extended periods of time, like when you need to get to bootloader.

However, hotswappable microSD is a must. HTC is still in the game though, their hardware is otherwise great. Their software is great, and with a concentrated lineup it will greatly increase the chance S-OFF is achieved for these devices. Even if it isn't, there will be unlocked bootloaders for doing everything needed except for flashing radios.
[General Topics] PurpleRob:
This is not always the case
[General Topics] exb0:
if only they would improve their drivers. The Sensation SHOULD have a better performance than the S2 and GNex. But sadly it does not. I'm still having my sensation, but I feel that I'm using my Gnex more now. Sure samsung's build quality is ****, but I'm starting to get over that fact.

HTC, you NEED to improve on your drivers. Please.
[General Topics] xHausx:
I've always refused to buy devices without expandable memory on principle, and I carry a spare battery in my wallet that I use almost every night. So that is a very important feature to me

Them trying their best to prevent custom ROMs and their absurd refusal to live up to their obligations under GPL have been discouraging, but not enough to make me want to jump ship. But now it looks like my next phone will definitely be from someone else even though all three smartphones I've owned up to this point have been HTC.
[General Topics] spinalscratch:
It does not make any sense, they are getting worse with the time.
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Keep this discussion rolling, post your concerns on HTC's facebook page and let them know we will not be buying their new iclones. If enough people voice their disgust, they will make changes. This is a turning point for HTC, now it is up to them which direction they want to go.

Is HTC going to pay for the extra data that using cloud storage requires? Didn't think so!

No swappable or extended battery? 1800 mah? I already have that with one core CPU and smaller screen. Can't get through a day now without charging.

Ponderous, simply ponderous. Wake up HTC. We have supported you for years, don't turn your back on us now!
[General Topics] Unbeatable Guy:
Somehow I think no sd card slot in a phone can be tolerable..we are the guys who root and to every damn thing in an android phone...which makes us mostly to remove the batteries ( in the process) so the unibody feature is kinda unacceptable and even of they make a battery come out the part of thinning the phone will not be there...they made it up to 8.9 mm...

In my opinion 100 out 60 people still prefer it Nd may be its the chance for iPhone lovers to get what they want on a bigger screen and a different os and thin size
[General Topics] bbeelzebub:
The One X / One XL is a gorgeous looking device. Many of us looked at Android because of the features it offered that Apple doesn't, like SD Cards and swappable batteries. It amazes me that a company so infamous for crappy battery life has chosen to move away from that, but haven't really upped the capacity of the included battery. Look at the Razr Maxx from Verizon here in the US. Sure, they sacrificed some of the thinness, but that battery is a beast.

If they must put in a non removable battery, they should have put in a much higher capacity one and without SD, there should be a minimum of 32GB of internal storage with the option for 64GB. HTC is never going to be Apple, no matter how hard they try. So why should they bother? We bought their phones because we didn't want to buy an iPhone in the first place.
[General Topics] BVanheede:
I've using my Desire for one year now, great machine. I love to see whats new in HTC One!
[General Topics] destakob:
whaaaat?

Bummertown!!! I'll be sure to let them know, Mainly because I really like their products over Motorola, I had a Droid Eris, now I have my HTC Thunderbolt!
[General Topics] Faiz Malkani:
:( sad. Kinda like apple
[General Topics] Unbeatable Guy:
Isn't one x have a 32 gigabytes memory?
[General Topics] atljatl:
I don't want to own a device without removable battery. As others have noted: HTC is known for TERRIBLE battery life. I won't own a device without sd card capability either. I've heard grumblings from other HTC users over these same issues. HTC is essentially money grabbing in order to make consumers pay THEM for memory instead of us buying sd memory from a 3rd party. I'm sure their plan is to have different sized phones (16gb/32gb/etc.. internal memory or whatever sizes in the future) and they will charge, as apple does, based on the internal memory size. I'm not buying. Goodbye HTC if they take this angle and run with it. Fun while it lasted, but goodbye.

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[General Topics] rejectedsup:
I feel if they plan to block developers from creating new roms for there devices they should be updating there devices more often and be selling there phones bloat free.
[General Topics] _highway_:
Can someone start a wall post or something on their facebook and link it here?

Then we can all post in the same place, opposing their new trends?

I remember doing something similar when they started to lock their bootloaders, and everyone freaked out, achieving a great response.
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
i definitely do not hope that it will be like this :3

****.. i just need a new phone now and getting the One X. i hope those 1800mAh are enough for my power user needs.. i'll just try it.

probably i'll leave HTC when the SGSIII comes out.. but that depends on the durabillity of the One X's battery.

32gb are enough for me (only this version gets sold here in switzerland) because i'm using another device for music with 32gb +32gb SD for my flacs (i'm a bit audiophile, and phones just have ****ty soundquality, i hate it.)

this means those 32gb are just for photos, videos and apps. and till now even 16gbs on my HD2 where more than enough..
[General Topics] DrAgKurt:
without SD card = *whack*
[General Topics] Ruudfood:
Erm, I'm not going to pretend to be some kind of all-seeing, fountain-of-knowledge oracle but the ommission of certain features in phones is a deliberate strategy by phone manufacturers to prevent everyone from buying a single phone to the detriment of sales and short-term revenue.

If as a manufacturer you packed all features into a phone everyone would buy it, you'd release new ones and who would be able to afford the new phone? What new features would you present in the new device that wasn't already in the old? You'd then have to wait 18 months to 2 years to see another revenue peak when the replacement super-duper all singing, all dancing device is released and contracts come to an end. (And yes, believe it or not most people buy their phones on contract.)

So for the one range (with the exception of the V), they've chosen to have a non-removeable battery and built-in storage. Don't like it? Don't buy it. HTC won't care, they'll just bring out another device that has a card slot and a removeable battery just for you.

It'll be missing some other feature though!
[General Topics] IMarks:
i cant stand HTC anymore.

Android is a open source OS and HTC always follewed that but now i cant find anything open. there is no democracy anymore.

HTC sense has being putted is to a much featureless skin, the graphics has being put down and now either the phone has being locked in anyway.

they say the phone is "the one phone" but i cant agree on that. finally a good processor and then putting down graphics like that, i dont get it.

indeed people complain about sense performance but i dont get how a sensation dual core can run high graphics and a quad core can not. that does not make sense to me.

the time for htc gets limited on me, first ruining there tablets side by bring only a 7" tablet and then complaining we're not doing well (no **** sherlock when everyone else has 10" with better specs) and no locking everything you can.

if i didnt want open source i would go to a ipod, not an android. so lets hope HTC will come back on "the one" and make it better.
[General Topics] thyeme:
Even the nexus s didnt have a sd card....and, as a nexus s owner, i dont feel it so bad...
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Post your feelings on HTC facebook page so you can be heard. If enough people speak up, they will listen!

This is what you get when you hire a new "design team". I wish they would hire a functionality team first.

Who cares what the back and sides of the phone looks like, you look at the screen 99.9% of the time. Unibody is a waste!
[General Topics] yawxir:
Having a Card Slot is Better then Having A Huge Memory Chip InSide...:p
[General Topics] jharre08:
*facepalm*

SD is a MUST. Guess this OG EVO could by my last HTC phone...
[General Topics] benjamingwynn:
Right SD cards are cool but come on guys this is 2012!

Internel memory is faster and less likely to brake afaik. It is also a step away from forcing everybody to buy an SD card to have music and stuff on there phones.

Also, if you want to transfer stuff then just get two micro USB cables and a pc. Copy, paste. Ctrl+C then Ctrl+V. Drag drop. Easy.
[General Topics] Megolaj:
Just stopped considering buying it :D
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Would make sense if they actually put at least 64gb in the phones.

Ever hear of sdxc? Up to 2tb on one card. Would cut into the carriers data profits, hollywood/riaa would have a stroke, and users would be happier with their phones for longer resulting in less sales for the manufacturers. Simple math. Absolutely no other reason.

And I have many sd/mini sd/microsd cards and only once have I had an issue, and it was a much older card. They are made with nand flash memory, which has been used in many devices for many years now, and has been extremely reliable.

And if you want a phone with only internal memory, no removable battery, and want to buy a new one every year, there is something called an iDrone. Go camp out every year with the rest of the sheep and keep giving your money to Crapple, they just don't have enough of your cash yet! And don't forget about how well they treat the slave labor who make their products.

Eat the rich before they eat you!
[General Topics] Jeanz.:
A unibody phone without sdcard slot may be unpleasant but there must be someone who loves it.
[General Topics] Sindroid:
Thats pretty rough by HTC. I have been an iPhone user the last two years and i am considering to go back to Android. I used a Nexus One back then and the reason to choose Android is because of the feature the iPhone does not have (removable battery, SD slot and open source platform).

Seems like HTC is going with the Appleflow and shut users out. To me Android was a religion by itself, fun to hack them phones. So for me they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Gonna sit out on the One X to see how things develop on devs side.
[General Topics] redrumsilence:
Its painful the way HTC have gone, I've had a Hero, Magic, Wildfire, Desire, DesireHD, Sensation and SensationXE

I got so hacked off with my SensationXE that I switched to a BlackBerry Bold 9900 cause it was a better phone

My son dropped it in the bath and now I've got a SGSII, I'll never go back to HTC again
[General Topics] Ruudfood:
Please stop all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, you're adults and it's only a phone not a matter of life and death ffs!
[General Topics] crazyricky:
actually I quite like HTC...their phone designs sometimes are quite nice
[General Topics] DavidSynergy:
HTC just seems to keep shooting themselves in the foot as of late. I don't understand how one of the most desired phone companies could fall so low. They need to get back to the roots that made them so great earlier on.
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
everyone, and every company is better when they are unknown. every product they sell counts when a company is unknown.

htc now is popular worldwide, why should they care? there always will be ppl who buys their stuff. they can do what they want, like apple, just that apple makes even more profit
[General Topics] hifigecko:
htc is just a small company.
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
yeah sure, but popular enough that they don't need to care anymore
[General Topics] lilvfr400boy:
I'm just in absolute discust at htc, iv owned a veriety of HTC's now but am sick of my high end devices not receiving updates on time I'm on EVO 3d now a better phone then the sensation yet that gets the update 1st, what the hell HTC how about this we are all going to buy samsungs from now on? Sound good HTC? At least then we will get updates. Either update em all or not at all like apple. Sorry to give apple a compliment but that's how it should be. Oh HTC one x so good, nah its using old tech like the tegra 3, I wonder why Samsung have moved on from tegra chips? And none removable batteries? What is the deal htc, I wana know that if my battery fails I can sort it tonite not on HTC time which usually will be late, with excuses then done wrong resulting in multiple returns back to HTC before it is rite. Rant over
[General Topics] Wettex:
Shame on HTC, this is not the way to go. I've ordered the HTC one X already and i'll use it until the SGS 3 come.
[General Topics] LogisticsXLS:
I feel the same. Only reason why I still buy their phones is because they have that "roundish" feel to their designs. Even though Samsung has the same feel on their phones, they've always had the "cheap/flimsy" feel with them as well.

Moto always gave me the "Brick & Bulky" feel to me, so I never went with them...

Besides, I only bought two android phones. And I'm still satisfied with my bolt of lighting I have. (Thunderbolt) ;)

So I'm still happy with HTC.
[General Topics] blestsol:
Just don't read these threads man. Nobody complaining cares about your opinion in this.

Sent from my Rizzy Rezound
[General Topics] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
You got that right!!!
[General Topics] jardivben:
Yeah...not including the ability to use an SD card w/ the phone seems very stupid for me 16 GB would be used up fast :D
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
I'll buy a Samsung phone when they have a flagship with real build quality.

all those Galaxy phones feel like paper... i hate that

so i'll stay HTC till ther's someone with proper build quality.

but somehow i got the feeling that the HD2 is the last phone with the feeling of "real quality"

i'm just not rdy to spend 500-700.- on a phone that feels like paper, even if it has awsome specs.

Sent from my HTC HD2
[General Topics] RobyRc:
HTC u...u s..sss..

Slow phone,verry slow:(
[General Topics] Jacotb:
I think they're just copying Apple's model for having 2 memory sizes, and charge ridiculous amounts of money for the larger memory.
[General Topics] Toss3:
I think google set a bad example with the Nexus phones. I'm hoping Samsung at least will keep supporting sd-cards with the SGS3.
[General Topics] hawkeye2188:
Definitely a huge down fall to this. When this was announced at MWC I was super excited then saw that little nugget that it wouldnt be including it.:mad:
[General Topics] Hunt3r.j2:
My suggestion is that they ship it with 16 GB and then have an empty microSD.
[General Topics] icactive:
Is HTC going to pay for the extra data that using cloud storage requires? Didn't think so!
[General Topics] inzaghi--9:
htc willl go down :(
[General Topics] Optisolator:
I think its too late for anything. If they did somehow change their mind, wouldn't they have to redesign the whole build just to fit a SD card slot? Sucks though, anyone know whats the reason behind not including a SD card slot?
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1552475

someone there said slow SD Cards could affect the instant snap feature or the recording quality of the new camera..

y'know, there are ppl who really use class2 cards, or even worse built cards

those will complain when they see the bad quality saved on the SD card.

probably that's why, + batterylife..
[General Topics] Android311:
#1 Get rid of sense

#2 Focus of quality rather then quantity

#3 Design better phones
[General Topics] Aleksey_US:
Sense was/is awful... still loved my HTC Desire with CM7 for close to a year...
[General Topics] DomCowell:
No but they are giving the storage facilities (25gb space) - would you prefer unlimited data (baring in mind you would pay about £5 a month for either)
[General Topics] PakAttack1994:
I doubt any changes will be made to the one x so late now...maybe for the next series that comes out but I would guess that any company would listen when their sales have dropped, but even on this thread people that are complaining are still buying it so how do you expect any change to happen when HTC is still making bank?
[General Topics] RoboDan918:
No One X for me then.

One S looks good but it's not too huge a spec bump from my Sensation... Also I really like my Sensation.

I'm seriously considering the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (Fighter - the one with the bigger screen) because of it's huge battery life and thin profile.
[General Topics] TommUK:
So what happens when i need to pull the battery when i get stuck in a bootloop from an Unstable setting or using an Unstable ROM.

or back up to SD card?

No One X for me :(
[General Topics] Dasanko:
I personally wouldn't be too happy with the loss of a SD card slot, but I can bear with it if the internal memory is at least 8GB

However, not allowing the removal of the battery is a dead end for me. I want to be able to change my damn battery for a new one whenever I feel it's declining without resorting to HTC, or if I'm going to be some place where I can't charge it, have a spare one on me.

I have to agree that I love the design of my HTC Wildfire, but if I were to get a new one and it didn't allow the battery to be removed... well, I think Samsung phones are nice.
[General Topics] LexSombra:
I have an HTC surround, it doesn't have a card slot, but the 16gigabytes are more than enough for me...:)
[General Topics] syncguru:
i dont have any issue if they dont have expansion SD slot but cannot remove battery is most concern me... personally I dont like HTC stock battery..
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
phones with built-in batteries have a more elegant way to reset. you push the homebutton for 4-10secs, and it shuts down instantly, as if you would pull the battery.

and the One X will most probably have an emulated SDCard, so that you are still able to use apps that use SDCards..

you rly think HTC is THAT stupid?
[General Topics] :
I seen it happen to iphones so it would be a bad idea to rely on button inputs sometimes buttons don't respond. So you would be stuck with a boot loops for breakfast , lunch and dinner till you can get it repaired.

To add more now i think external memory cards can die. You can easily find a cheap otg cable and a 64/128 gig flash usb drive. drop box can easily be purchased if you want $20 is 100 gigs which isn't bad. Most of use google products so if you have a google + your pictures are backed up online or some other social networking site.
[General Topics] Musik847:
I completely lost hope in HTC after they blatantly lied about "unlocking all boot loaders"
[General Topics] ElectroBeijing:
I was strongly considering the One X as my next phone; my current device is an HD2, and while it's still running strong, it's undoubtedly showing it's age, as is clear when trying to play games such as GTAIII and Fast Five HD [ I ended up using my friend's Amaze to play games, so much faster!] The One X looked like a worthy follow-up to the HD2 for me, but the unibody design is keeping me from considering it. I love having a 32 GB SD and extended battery with my HD2, and I'd want/expect the same functionality in a phone 2 years newer. I used to own an iPhone, and that is a good phone if you want something that is unibody and not meant for any physical additions. I switched to HTC wanting the abilities to add SD space as I pleased, and use an extended battery without it being built into a case; I want to keep that ability, thank you very much.
[General Topics] bazobazi:
but the boot loader of the new One will be blocked?
[General Topics] lilo214:
HTC SUCKS!! sgs2 is wayy better :)
[General Topics] Android311:
HTC dosent care how people feel
[General Topics] PakAttack1994:
Like most corporations, HTC will only care when profits dip. If you don't agree with a company, dont support their products, simple as that. You'll see the change when enough people jump ship.
[General Topics] Thaddeus93:
The chances of HTC listening are hugely Minimal. Cause it wouldn't be simple to incorporate the SD Slot in such a short period of time before release :/ it's a nice phone I must say, just a bit of a let down!
[General Topics] sazrikudo:
I'm stuck with battery and more RAM pleasee....

So please HTC fix this. If you want you smartphone on the top make a high capasity of battery and the best spec.
[General Topics] huy_lonewolf:
I think HTC is well aware of this problem, but this is a conscious business choice for them. In a sense, they want to create their own HTC ecosystem (just like Apple) where the user experience is tightly controlled, limiting the amount of problems to the minimum. They are targeting the general customers (the majority), those who do not even know what Android is. We are the minority, thus it does not make sense for them to go after us. They won't change anything unless the general customers don't like their products.
[General Topics] Whippler:
Got Desire Z myself, might be my first and last htc phone. Also might be first and last android phone for me.

Removable memory brings me peace of mind, if the phone gets ****ed up, pull out the card and all the data is there.
[General Topics] tw1ztidmopho:
Not really my cup of tea
[General Topics] indigold:
How i feel? I only feel bad that they dont ship to my country. But all round perfomance, i love htc

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[General Topics] Dyrt Mcgyrt:
Htc makes good devices but yes its a requirement for me to be able to remove battery and have an ad card slot. Rezound FTW! Minus no asop atm :(
[General Topics] prince9030:
i love htc

i love htc devices i have no complaints
[General Topics] +Vidar+:
HTC makes good devices but for me is a sd card slot important. :)
[General Topics] cordell507:
HTC just does this trying to make their phones thinner, it's not that important to take away 1 mm to put in a removable battery and sd card slot
[General Topics] anit77:
No sd slot is a no go for me too. I have over 20gb of music on my phone now... Even with 32gb internal without any sd there isn't enough room for me let alone the 16gb in the At$t variant.

I'm around enough power sources to live with a sealed battery but it's nice to have the option when needed.

I'm toying with the idea of getting a Vivid or waiting for the Xperia ion.
[General Topics] Vip3R85:
HTC just tries to make their phones thinner, it's not that important
[General Topics] tikado:
It's really bad news so I have to keep my HTC HD2 as long as possible.

It seems that HTC try to resemble iPhone ( at least no replaceble battery) but this restricts users seriously.

I carry two spare batteries in my journeys and they do help so much.

What about power off by removing the battery ?