yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
I've noticed one more thing but it may be completely unrelated.

Even when I was using WiFi on the previous version of Blackout, the drain was about 3mA to 8mA (which was strangely low to me). Now, I noticed its about 35mA average. And I thought it was a WiFi but... but then I noticed the blue bar below - the "awake" state - it was continuous full bar - 100% of time awake. That's strange because I use the same set of apps like before, but few "updated"... I will check it out after reboot and I hope it's one of the apps, but the "usage" says that the percentage of use is like always, screen eats the most and then gsm, wifi, phone idle, android system and so on, are eating from 7 to 5 percent. Will see what happens till tommorow...
[Desire HD Android Development] alpha007org:
Battery drain

I have OC 1.4 but have sleep profile 256-786 conservative governor and I have 3mA to 5mA usage. If it is higher then I know some app is misbehaving.

About sound glitches: I went to ringtones and continuously listened same one, then tried different,... and I could not hear any clicks or noise or anything out of normal. V3.1.0
[Desire HD Android Development] Pegajoso:
Guys a little question about pictures.

When I took a photo whit the stock camera always say 6mp, but when I use Camera Zoom DX show the rwaal size and resolution 8mp why?

Enviado desde mi Inspire 4G usando Tapatalk 2
[Desire HD Android Development] hadi_xman:
Su permission is remember so i didn't ask me.. i deliberately enable it to check what happened.. after enable it... Was curious.. :D

I sort it out.. it's fix now.. :)

Enabling bliss launcher was distorted my homescreen... then i disable it but nothing happened.. so i restarted but useless.. then i again enable bliss launcher n i got my homescreen back except lockscreen i fixed it by changing the lockscreen.. :D:D now still it's enable.. :cool:

Someone wanna check if this pattern works for others too..? But at your own risk of-course..:p

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Btw what it's the default clocking in blackout..?

After installing setcpu it's days 1024Mhz Max... 245Mhz Min.. it's default..?
[Desire HD Android Development] bogduke:
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
[Desire HD Android Development] prospect565:
I love this rom when it comes to stability and performance but there are issues with the headphones distortion and I am completely hating that. I can't even use Viber due to the same reason.

Is there any other such rom without these issues?

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any similar rom without this problem?
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Stock camera should have 8mp and be set to 8mp by default, which version of the rom are you using? did you check in settings?

Yup that's the default, but most say 1200-245 is the best for daily use, together with 368-245 screen off profile AND smartassV2 governor (default is performance).

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You can flash AOKP or some other (as i heard only few have/had those problems) OR better yet (if you like the rom) wait for 3.2 to roll out, it has that issue fixed (god how many more are gonna ask?).

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Like i said sound glitches happen only on some scales while not on others (i couldn't even replicate them with stock apps and sounds ONLY, third party apps), i'm starting to think those are just compatibility issues between those apps and the roms.
[Desire HD Android Development] Pop Tarantula:
According to His Masters Voice, lots!!!!!!!!!

Even after v3.2 arrives, be prepared for 1001 "what about Hotspot?" & "what about headset buttons?" or "what about Chrome?" type questions.. :eek:
[Desire HD Android Development] abumaha:
how enable vibration when open screen wake up
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
If you are planning to use profiles it does not seem to make sense to use smartassV2. By default smartass tries to maintain a speed of 800 MHz at wake and 200 MHz at sleep, going to the closest applicable speed. The entire range of clock speeds is available whether at wake or sleep.

If you plan to run a screen off and off profile, for screen on performance or ondemand, with a conservative governor capped at a lower speed for screen off makes more sense.

No point running smartassV2 on a profile since you effectively won't be using its sleep profile. By making smartassV2 the wake only governor it really will perform just about the same as on demand.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD powered by Blackout ICS Incredible v3.1.1
[Desire HD Android Development] bogduke:
What about it ? On 3.1 works fine.
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
I'll ask again because it did fade in the question crowd ;)

What's "automatic google sign in" when launching browser (maybe only the first time) and how to get rid of this?
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Like you said, only first time, didn't happen to me after, and you can turn on private browsing (incognito) if you want more privacy, press menu, windows, upper right corner (mask) in stock browser.

3.2 Report

Was just about to play some chicken invaders 3 when i got a call and had to go assist in chopping down some turkeys, locked and left it (was about 60% battery left), chicken invaders was left in background, when i came home after about an hour and a half, it went down to 15% (just wanted to share a bit of battery life experience, and how much an app left running in background can consume).

Oh and Roberto, could you please tell me which governor should i use with profiles? Sorry but i spoke based on previous posts, i'm fairly new to roms (blackout being the seccond one i flashed), and rooted my dhd just about a month or two ago, so i still have to learn about governors behaviour and such (payed close attention to root apps b4 i rooted it tough, my official behaviour would be appaholic :P).
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
The most common setting for profiles would be:

Screen on: Ondemand governor with clock speeds set at 245-1200 MHz.

Screen off: Conservative governor with clock speeds set at 245-768 MHz(this how the Virtuous Team does it) or 245-368 MHz (like ARHD).

The OC Daemon on v3.0.0 of this ROM was designed to run this kind of profiles without having an app running on the background.

For the screen off governor I don't see any point running a profile other than conservative. For the screen on governor you can also use performance (more aggressive than ondemand) or Lionheart (more conservative than ondemand).

Another profile you may want to create is a low battery profile.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD powered by Blackout ICS Incredible v3.1.1
[Desire HD Android Development] soleil10:
Try pacha's or xgs.
[Desire HD Android Development] bogduke:
To learn about governors, you should read this.
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Thanks allot, ondemand actually solved the speed hickups while in apps.

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Ok i think we're ready for a roundup on 3.2

-AROMA installer touch (fixed);

-Touchscreen sensitivity still needs a bit of finetuning (sometimes still a bit over-responsive as reported,and seccond not

sure cuz i have a 6 month old glass protector tape but feels like it won't react too good to touch input sometimes);

-Despite minor (barely detectable) clicks (discovered thanks to krzych), sound is excelent across apps so i think we should mark it as (fixed);

-Problems with not updating facebook pics in people app still persist (my case, didn't see anyone else report it);

-Camera perfect;

-Running smooth and stable (once changed from smartassV2 to ondemand);

-Wi-fi hotspot and headset buttons (WIP) for those who didn't follow up;

-No crash/reboots while testing;

-All other apps i tested worked fine.

If there's anything i forgot to add feel free to fill in.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
Makes sense.

ondemand would jump straight to 1024 MHz (or whatever your top speed is) when it detects load. Than it will gradually scale down to slower speeds if load is less than the min_cpu_load setting.

smartassV2 will go first to 768 MHz, than scale up to 1024 MHz if needed. This behavior can be change by changing the sleep_wake_up freq and awake ideal_freq settings to max cpu speed, making it act more like ondemand.
[Desire HD Android Development] Pop Tarantula:
easy tiger. I did say those '... type questions' meaning the most frequently asked/answered/repeated/unsearched. I simply used 3 prime examples to make a point is all. #literal

Desire HD : * Blackout ICS 3.1.0 * : Tapatalk 2.4
[Desire HD Android Development] Saturn007:
Glad to hear this. We have no ETA on the release of 3.2?

Just curious if it's a matter of few days or going to be a few weeks so I know whether to wait or to switch to another rom temporarily?
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
You didn't understand me. First of all, I need to know what's this. And this is most important. Ignoring it (like you suggested) is a _bad_ way of dealing with "signups". Second of all, if browser signed me in, it doesnt matter it's just once or more - I'm signed in. And I _do_not_believe_ browsers that automatically signs me in that it can provide any "incognito" mode - it's just a lie.

So again, anyone knows why stock broser sings in automatically using my goole account data, and how to get rid of SIGNUP (don't mix with getting rid of toast info displayed - I do not mind displaying anything, especially "signup error")?
[Desire HD Android Development] woti23:
its not specific to blackout rom, that's what i can tell, because on my desire s i have a sense 3.6 rom and the stock browser auto signs in too.

on the google start(search)site you can logout, and it does not sign in automatically again (this is also kept over reboot then). nevertheless it's a privacy issue, that google has indroduced here. in browser settings there is no option to prevent login at first start, also turning internet sync off does not prevent from auto sign-in.
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
Thanks. But my browser does not allow to logout as after "automatic sign in", it's presenting a google page without me signed-in (there is a link to sign-in instead sign-off), so I suppose that "page signup" is something differ than "application signup" where page could do anly a tracking of your actions as a http calls, and application can spy you even on the phone, saving any data accessible by given permisions (as i remember, browser has quite many)...

So, it's probably more dangerous than you think. I will try to check the behavior after data clean, then with LBA installed (which is probably a spy too, but what can I do...? :D).

We really need patches for privacy, a pity that Blackout Team does not do such a things, secure rom would be best thing on the Android scene of all times.

And yes, it's not rom related probably, but I just asked here as I'm using this rom, not any other, and here are ppl interested maybe ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Muikkuman:
Maybe start internet before signing in on your Google account?
[Desire HD Android Development] woti23:
i use chrome, there is no automatic sign in after a fresh install of the app.

you mean LBE?

you could also look (in market or here on xda somewhere) for "Logging test app", from the dev that discovered the "Carrier ID" spyware, the paid version lets you also remove loggers (htc and google) and check-ins. and loggers form adware. and prevent usage-stats from being stored ...

+1 for privacy concerns anyway.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
I don't know dude. Are phones are signed into Google from the start.
[Desire HD Android Development] bogduke:
Use another browser (Chrome, LOL) if that makes you feel safer.

And please don't tell me that you're trying to hide from Goolge. You know you have an Android device, don't you ?
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
OT: Cracked me up.

@krzych: No offense meant.
[Desire HD Android Development] Cashreedhar:
I think this one is common in all ROMs now. I had this in Virtuous, Nik, Jellytime, Codefirex (Dont remember about Icecold). This is the google feature to sync browser.

I think this is not a problem. Just do a quick check. I hope by default your google account in the browser is signed in. Open google.com, you can see your email id logged in at the bottom(if already not there sign-in). Now open new window in incognito mode, open google.com. It is not signed in with your account. It proves incognito mode is pure incognito. :)

And the last question, how to disable automatic sign-in. Go to settings>privacy and security setting> clear passwords.. Now your browser has no info that you don't want to share even you are controlling google now :) lol
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
:D

Chrome is Google too, so it probably logs the same, or even more ;)

Nope. You can not create google account at all, and even remove google software with the Google Framework including.

Search for PDroid, LBE, you'll know you don't have to agree with google espionage terms. And no, I'm not trying to hide, I just try to minimize the losses, to be more anonymous.

Ok, now the time for a bug report again:

I did report it before for the 3.1 rom but there was no real reply (only SBryan asked me what I'm talking about, so I'll explain):

Sensors in our roms are provided by hardware drivers. This is true for this rom, and there is nothing lacking here but...

But the rom misses _software_ drivers for the sensors. Software driver is a "program" which translates the data into different set of data grathering originals from hardware sensors. For example:

1. Accelerometer = hardware driver

2. Magnetic field = hardware driver

3. Light = hardware

4. Proximity = hardware?

5. Orientation = software based on magnetic field data calculated by well know algorithms

6. Gravity = software one based on accelerometers averaging from all three axes to be used by devs without making nasty calculations like this

7. Linear acceleration = software one based on accels showing acceleration only by one axe

8. Rotation = software based on accels to show phone yaw/pitch/roll

Why did I write this all....

Because our rom has ONLY ONE software based driver - orientation - 5th on the list.

The rest of the software drivers I mentioned above is missing and I am _sure_ that in previous roms based on Gingerbread all were present.

The repercussions of the missing sensors could be including wrong calculations in some apps where developer tries to calculate on his own desired data. I do not know that it really occurs, but I would like not to, and to be sure all is ok.

There is a possibility that Google _did_ move the software drivers into the Android SDK as a part of library what would mean that there are "functions" (methods/classes to be precise) which do the same as drivers did, but then, it means that old applications compiled using the older SDK will not work properly.

So, the thing is I'm asking the Blackout Team that they know what happened with the drivers, and that is there any way to recover them for our rom :)

I can provide a screenshot with the drivers present from other rom if you don't believe me, but since I know you believe me, I will not reflash anything yet - only if you ask me :)

And why I state that the developers of the apps can provide worse calculatuions? - it's very simple - because software drivers which were present before were signed "made by Google" - and as I hate google for the espionage, I can tell that technical solutions they provide are very good.

Below is the screenshot.

And if this is another ICS "feature", then sorry, but I do not know much about ICS yet :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
If you can live without Google Play and other Google services. But at that point, it seems to make more sense to get a BlackBerry.
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Sorry for being so simple in answering but that my friend is a question for the devs or even Google since it could be (probably is) ics related.
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
LOL,BlackBerry?? Hahahah,man, you have weird sense of humour:D

Android is a Java phone with a lots of software. That's the whole point of Android. I give a sh*t about any 'social' meaning including cloud-backup-of-my-mind :D

I thought we have a level here :D No offense though but you made me crying while laughing :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Roberto_Lim:
The ROM is ported from an HTC Incredible S. I think we are starting to get to the point that we are looking into how a ROM should be built or how Google should build Android.

Maybe we should just stick to what works and what does not.
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Agree.

And to krzych:

Regarding those drivers, we could only download some pre-ics versions of apps which use those sensors and test their behaviour, one would just have to point me out to such an app and i could try to get a lower version.
[Desire HD Android Development] Simonekl:
Telefon: HTC Desire HD

Aktuální ROM: Blackout ICS Incredible v3.2 Beta your rom bobix86??

link 3.2?
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
I can't because noone knows what's beneath in app since we have no source code. If there's no driver that app would like to use it can use hardware one doing calculations on It's own and you never notice this until you do thorough quality tests (and still if the calcs will be good enough you won't notice). And we, aware users, do not have such manpower to check every app.. So no, I cannot provide any link until I bump accidentally on buggy app, and still I won't know what exactly caused the bug, it may be devs fault, you'll never know until you get the source code. That's why I try to PREVENT the case.
[Desire HD Android Development] zoric:
Is anyone have issues with Viber or Skype Call?i have a terible sound in speaker?
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
Man... you should really re-read the forum rules :P

This topic was talked about hundreds of pages now :P. And explained in details! And even fixed!
[Desire HD Android Development] p2pjack:
Beta test 3.2

1. Accelerometer = hardware driver /working

2. Magnetic field = hardware driver /working

3. Light = hardware /working

4. Proximity = hardware? /working

5. Orientation = software based on magnetic field data calculated by well know algorithms /working

6. Gravity = software one based on accelerometers averaging from all three axes to be used by devs without making nasty calculations like this

7. Linear acceleration = software one based on accels showing acceleration only by one axe

8. Rotation = software based on accels to show phone yaw/pitch/roll /working

So far testing this rom very good the only thing i can find is the stock bowser has a lot lag for me also after removing some of the htc stuff battery drain as slowed down . When the update is released it will be good thank you team blackout :D
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
And that's why only devs or google can help you, and only with a clear explanation (still no point untill you know exactly what caused the bug, so there's nothing to prevent yet, and i'm just citing your sentences).
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
Rephrasing whole thing once more:

Where are the drivers that were present always in all roms I've had? Is this normal for all ICS's or can we have them back?

And NO, this is NOT a question for anyone not developing this rom, this is a question strictly to Blackout Team.

Sorry for being a little nervous ;P I'm feeling being attacked like I said something wrong ;P
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Chill out, i was just trying to point out that you're preaching to the wrong quire, and, while we can discuss things like this day and night, it wouldn't matter if the end result is nullified, that's all (don't wanna hog the thread anymore so i'll just stop non-productive posting, now that we got that issue out of the way).
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
Ok, ok. :)

And I think I've found my answer... unfortunately :(

Here is the link for the whole story and below a cite which states, that we will not have those sensors never ever again if I do understand it right:

So... Google pisses on the older devices while those were working correctly, they changed the drivers not to show up because newer devices are more prcise using gyro... So the possible assumption is that ICS should never appear on the older devices AT ALL....

%$^$^& Google!

[ed] wasn't the only one concerned: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32502090#post32502090

[ed] Strangely enough here they say, that on ICS there were some software sensors, and we have none of them...

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PS. ROM is perfect - all doubts cleared now. Battery drain, network location, sound, everything.

I vote for the release.

And sorry for not doing as much research about sensors as I did now - I should have :)
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
Thanks for pointing that out, now i can point out something else: DHD doesn't have a gyroscope but an acellerometer (not the same deal), which means we didn't have any feedback from those software sensors to start out with, and it IS a good thing they're gone cause they would just increase rom size but are otherwise unusable, read it yourself, those sensors rely on built-it gyroscope and don't appear if there is no gyroscope. So you been making an elephant out of a fly, metaphoricaly speaking.

EDIT: One mistake, we do have them (i think according to the cite) but they don't show up for above reason.

Seccond release vote, when tweaks are implemented, and some of the smaller issues i pointed out 2-3 pages back are solved (not too relevant to me but they might be for some).
[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
Why do you write something without rethinking it, or even without checking? Those drivers WERE WORKING PERFECTLY on EVERY PREVIOUS ROM I'VE HAD.

I hate when people say something without even having a bit of knowledge!!!

Get ANY gingerbread rom ANY, i repeat, a rom of YOUR CHOICE, then download for example Elixir2 and check by yourself befeore saying any more stupid statements!

Even this cite states that they were working if you think hard enough!

They only did an improvement with the precision, but the drivers were working all the time! And now we have no drivers because they've put blood "if"'s into the code, so when it doesn't detect a gyro, it wont even say "i'm there".

The whole above is a mistake.

At least we agree here :P
[Desire HD Android Development] Pegajoso:
3.1.0 And yes in settings ins 8mp

Any dea why? :confused:
[Desire HD Android Development] bobix86:
That's exactly what i say,think,didn't say it couldn't detect the drivers but that they were unusable (ever tryed testing an app which actually uses those sensors in GB?), and read again untill you understand, gyroscope ISN'T in dhd, G-sensor aka accelerometer is look it up please, and that's why it doesn't display the drivers (that's what actually changed in ICS, in GB you were able to dettect them even when they didn't serve a purpose, now you can't). And please, read carefully, think and then post. And we do agree, it's just that you keep misunderstanding me, and if you just read a bit further you'd understand that you actually agreed with me on this issue as well.

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Ok as i understood you're saying that you have it set to 8mp in stock camera but when you shoot it it's 6mp?

If so, dunno, have to check and report, turning my dhd on as we speak.

EDIT:

No problem in 3.2, stock doesn't even have an option for 6mp (if you meant something else please write it down with more detail as i couldn't understand what you we're saying).