[Android General] retareq:
So today I was greeted with a simple PM that quickly escalated to nonsense for no reason. I am putting it here because I wan't to hear the community's thoughts on this. I have erased the user's name and other information to avoid any humiliation. Please keep your discussion specific and don't flame. Blue color for my conversation and green color for the other party.

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Hello, just love your Berry Black Keyboard Theme!

would like to download it, it's posted as free on xda - clicking on link you've provided - and it appears to be paid. maybe some kind of mistake.

can you please be so kind sharing?

and do you have webmoney accound so i can donate? we don't have / can't pay through paypal in ukraine.

thank you.

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It's not for free sorry. I made a mistake in the thread, I have updated it now.

You can buy from slideme app store they allow world wide users to buy apps easily.

Berry white and ICS Froyo are the two free keyboards.

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LOL first developer not sharing 1$ eight png images to the other person kindly asking. even if he asked by mistake and willing to donate for the app he thought was free.

checked slideme - same thing with my country, anyway the deal is not about the money.

maybe i think so because i do some serious stuff in real life.

but i will never understand how 1$ and some png images can beat kind words.

wish you all the best - so your life changes the way 1 bucks won't be such an issue.

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Thats the whole point my friend. A bunch of images and random colors organized in a nice fashion is what makes it worth something. Just like mining gold. Have you ever asked the question why there is no berry black keyboard theme in the market in the first place ? Theres literally thousands of free keyboard theme apps and not one black berry styled keyboard ? Why ?

And as for sharing a $1 app, I've had users email me and they were kind enough to do a video for it as well. You are like the 100th person to ask me for free. If I gave all the other 100 people the theme for free then whats in it for me ? Like seriously ? In normal case scenario if a person has a life and other things to do why would he make and then do all the extra overhead work of creating icons and market listing and upload it and then give it out for free ? I would have given you the app anyways after you checked and told me what happened with slideme but like others you too had no patience and had to add your own smart comments.

Your right It's not about money, I give out free apps every week. People like you need to realize that $1 not because its worth $1 but because it will not sell at higher prices. It takes about 15 hours to finish a keyboard theme from start to finish and testing it on all resolutions. So if my rate of earning were to be even $10 per hour then its 10x15=$150. Which means until I sell 150 keyboard themes I have not earned enough. And then comes the 100+ people who want it for free. This is why developers quit in the middle of working on kernels and roms here in xda because when people want something they will make noise but not work on it themselves. When someone does it for them they got even more complains.

Unlike other designers here on xda I fight for designers. I don't care about your $1.

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are all these people live somewhere where electronic money transactions are REALLY hard. ebay doesn't even accept transactions for random goods to anyone in ex-ussr. didn't know that, sure?

were all these people thinking it was free and willing to donate even more than you want for it (i didn't even notice it was 1$ until i started with slideme) but with webmoney which we have exchange for?

that's not a reason for you, you're thinking of other 100 free askers and all that pity math. you concerned about money more than you try to imply, believe me it's well seen.

now as for stuff you call desiiiign - a simple recent example of an app everyone uses WhatsApp modded

price was the same as you 8 png images but this person did MUCH more work, including photoshop, smali editing compiling etc etc etc. 15 hours for your skin? than how much for testing and drawing the whole app? it'll take a year with that productivity.

and concerning the marketing question, believe me, a lot more users would download themed whatsapp with extra features not implemented by developer itself, rather than one of thousand keyboard skins.

guess what, he is giving it out for free when it was paid and than made it donate version. yes he can sell thousand of copies of this skin but he doesn't.

he earns money for his work but he is not shaking for every bucks when situation doesn't worth it and stay a real man. you live not far from russia, hope you understand the meaning of being a man in our meaning. there are things men can not afford because they're too cheap for them. not literally of course.

and the xda full of those examples.

free apps, kernels, roms, mods! years of man work for free. all this stuff needs much more knowledge and work than those 8 images you call design. and all this app can be successfully sold! but they're not. how do you think why? as for berry keyboard and first places - there's just nothing special about it no one looks for it and no one downloads it that's why it's not on a first place LOL.

donations and earning money for any work is good.

but being such a principle person in such a simple situation - trading for such a mediocre work makes me smile.

believe me, if you were such a principle person with EVERYTHING in your life you won't think about 100xxxwhatever persons 150xxxwhatever dollars and all that funny numbers. so you're not that sharp. and you're telling me you don't care about 1$. that's a funny stuff showing me i was right from the beginning.

and for the keyboard we were talking about - already got that

Order date: March 4, 2012 11:47:50 AM PST

Berry Black Keyboard

CA$1.00

Total:

CA$1.00

- doesn't look as good as it was on a screenshot - won't use it, deserves a refund in my opinion, but i won't, just because i prefer to be principle in real life with some really worthy stuff and can afford a bunch of so-called "Designer_Stuff organized in nice fashion".

just to support person who says he doesn't care for 1$ and stands for designers, but writes a huge explanation with examples from 1$ math and doesn't have anything we call design on his deviantart. keep believing LOL

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So first you message me that you love the theme and you want it for free because you cannot buy it. Next you buy from market somehow and now your complaining. I just proved my point. Your purchase has been refunded. I did not come knocking on your door you came to me trying to be cheap. You can say what you want about my deviantart I dont really care, I do things my way. You wrote an entire essay complaining maybe you could have used that time to design your own keyboard that will satisfy your needs.

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you're funny little person.

i was trying to donate for free app. remember/no? how's your memory today?

needed to ask another person to download it for me, than send money to him through webmoney... a lot of actions to do. taken about an hour, ain't it too much for a couple of images?

that's why i asked it for free first.

but such a looser like you would better believe someone tried to cheat him for 1$. greedy piece of LOL can see nothing but money. you thought someone would even bother to write a message not to pay 1$? are you that retard to not understand how small that amount is for anybody in this world?

i buy "designers" with such "creativity" and way of thinking you just clearly demonstrated for a couple of hundreds per dosen. believe me i didn't mean to steal you dollar. LOOOOOOOOOL

you've made a refund? funny enough i've noticed your apk on some other forum. so doesn't really matter. if i'd find this leaked version earlier i wouldn't meet a man that don't deserve being a man. greedy pays twice, or loosing a lot of potential buyers one way or another.

first impression is the right one. cheap stuff smells in a special way and shows itself in everything related to a person.

now get lost, tired of your pathetic mind.

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I told you before you would have got your theme for free but you had to be sarcastic from start thats why you didnt get it. If you were nice you could have avoided everything but you chose this course of action. As for the apk in another forum you just proved that you wanted to pirate it in the first place, thats why you were still looking for it in the other forums. You thought it would be nice if you could ask me directly for it so you dont feel guilty. I get many people like you every day and this is not support. I don't need nagging people like you to support me when I have the support of my designer friends in deviantart. They see something in me and you don't, go figure why. All the kernels and roms and free stuff I use from xda I have personally offered all those devs my apps for free. Some agreed others said they will buy it from the market. I don't need to explain anything to you but I'm being nice and explaining to you so your narrow one sided mind can understand that it was you who messed it up. Your the pathetic one with zero patience.

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i didnt need your theme for free clown! i needed it with less possible actions to download. see the difference?

it would be nice to ask not to feel guilty? for what? i'd use it if i like it and so what? it wouldnt work if i dont buy it? why spending time sending message waiting for answer. why talk to some clerk thinking he is a designer?

are you retard tell me? or you think sun walks around you? that's getting funniest conversation ever. you live in interesting world where you believe in some idiotic stuff you wanna believe and proving it further. that youre designer, that someone will talk to you for 1$ hahaha too much for your pity self. telling you once again - no one writes message for 1$ believe me.

you don't need to explain? you were just offered to get lost but you still here smelling in my PM. why? because im right. zero are you and you can do nothing with it. you are angry because you understand that people see how pathetic everything you do and wanna call design. its worth 1$ nothing more you're right.

youre offering apps for free to devs stuff you use? how about others? or you're only a tradewhore offering 8 images for whole kernel rom etc?. think its equal? how convinient. its like nothing to 1$ even less, we are talking about.

do you understand how low are you telling this stuff as an argument. and who uses your great skins in their roms? never seen it anywhere even for free.

get lost you're plankton, prooved in three variations.

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Moral of the story, no more PM's for me. No one is pointing a gun at your head and making you buy my apps.