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[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
Personally, it's the second part that annoys me more. It's absolutely fine that we have to wait to get it. However, the PR side is handled quite poorly. They keep us in the dark and it prevents us of making informed decisions. For example, I have a lot of work that I would like to do on a transformer over the summer. If I had a firm date of early July, it would be worth the wait. But if the firm date was end of August, I would just get a TF300 because the possibility of using it all summer outweighs the extra features of the TF700.

I hate PR nightmares like this one but in the end, we want what we want. I don't think I'll go for an Acer, like I didn't switch to Xbox when the PSN crisis went on.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>It's a bloody Transformer and nothing comes close to it in terms of modularity.

To me, modularity means being able to mix-n-match. The TF line isn't "modular" when the dock only works with a specific model of tablet, let alone tablets from different vendors. My preference of modularity includes any old tablet + foldable stand + BT keyboard.

>I've been the happy owner of what some have termed a "netvertible" (Aspire 1825PTZ) for two years...The Inifinty takes the Transformer concept to another level

Windows 7 isn't a fair test of a tablet OS. Win8's many hybrids will be more compelling. TF line = tablet + keyboard dock + extended battery. Asus' TF Book extends the practice to include HDD + more. Safe to assume that Asus won't be the only one with hybrid devices.

>It's sad that we live in a world that doesn't sacralize free access to information yet. In a perfect world, the lead engineer managing the Transformer line of products should be updating us daily (NotionInk/Kickstarter style).

It's the difference between an idealized world and the real one. Somebody has to be paid to disseminate that "free access," and lead engineers' time don't come cheap, nor do their skill sets include catering to impatient end-users who expect to be kept in the loop for every second. That requires the skills of a good babysitter.

Ironic that you mentioned Notion Ink. So, were you bamboozled into buying the NI Adam on the basis of the CEO's sales pitch? Are you still using one now? (It's only been a year.)
[Asus Transformer TF700] pisculescu:
Why nobody offers a damn hd resolution gsm compatible tablet. I think that we have months to wait for the first cellular capable android tablet that also has a hi res screen to appear.

It is really annoying not to have a damn option to the ipad. For me the ipad really is not an option(mainly because the lack of a proper file system).
[Asus Transformer TF700] sapienssapiens:
Very good point! I guess it's down to a matter of taste.

I personally wouldn't be caught dead with the any old tablet + foldable stand + BT keyboard combo. First, because the radio-enabled keyboard drains the battery instead of pumping juice into the system (like the Transformer). Secondly, because it's esthetically less appealing. But there's no question that your system is way more modular than the Infinity.

I wouldn't know. I wiped the disk as soon as I received it and installed Ubuntu and Android on it.

That's one perspective. I prefer to see the updates as a way to get feedback from potential customers early on during the design stage.

As for the practical aspects of disseminating information (i.e: financial incentives), I've heard the exact same argument back when Wikipedia had just started. I see your reservations as more of a cultural barrier than an economical one.

No. The model I wanted sold out before I could order it.

Anecdotes notwithstanding, my comment dealt with cultural ideals and values. Transparency for transparency's sake is a fundamental belief of mine. Up there with Truth and Freedom. I know this might be interpreted as condescending, but know that's as far from my intent as possible.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Underwater Mike:
Asus needs to learn how to market its products. Announcing months in advance and then playing games with availability doesn't build demand, it builds animus -- especially when the eventual launch is botched badly, as it was with the TF101 and 201.

I've been without a tablet since last AUG (took back a Prime in JAN that looked like it was made by a caveman) and am waiting for an Infinity -- but ONLY because (1) I hate Apple and (2) the Acer doesn't come with an integrated keyboard dock. If the Acer was different or Samsung had come through this summer, I'd tell Asus to eat it.

(The Nexus tab sounds nice, but I want a 10" screen.)
[Asus Transformer TF700] zh1975:
For me too the keyboard dock is the main feature that makes the difference.

A Swiss shop seems to have 192 in stock since 6 o' clock tonight, the dockless version however and only in grey. This site does'nt accept links as I have less than 10 posts, so I direct you to brack@ch to look there.

---------- Post added at 09:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:21 PM ----------

...as the Prime's dock seems to fit, you could still order that dock & the infinity...
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
Will Infinity work with Prime dock or just like TF300 it has it's own dock?
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
If you check out the dock advertized in the site mentioned in the previous post (brack@ch), it states that the dock is for both the prime and the infinity. What i dont know is if this dock is identical to the original prime dock. As the infinity is .2 mm. thicker than the Prime, i am not entirely shure it will work.

I just noticed this in the description of the 201/700 dock:

Zwei USB-Schnittstellen

If this is correct, it has two USB ports instead of the lone one on the original Prime dock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] zh1975:
I think they are compatible but not identical. As soon as I have the Infinity I'll test if the primes dock works. I prefer to wait for golden version though.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
According to ASUS USA site:

So it is the same as current Prime dock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>I guess it's down to a matter of taste.

Yes, it is. For example, while some here were slagging the Acer A700's admittedly more homely looks, I was looking at its bootloader unlock procedure.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1710755

No fuss, no muss. And no voiding of the warranty. I'm a geek and I like geek stuff like this, more than how shiny the shell is. BTW, as the above indicates, A700 already has its own forum.

>First, because the radio-enabled keyboard drains the battery instead of pumping juice into the system (like the Transformer).

If you want to count the keyboard+battery, then you may also want to count its downside, viz. another $150 and 1.5'ish lbs of weight. A BT keyboard weighs a few ounces, and doesn't require another $150 outlay for the next tablet that shows up. And no, BT keyboard doesn't "drain" the battery any more than having the wifi on. Both run from the same chip.

>I prefer to see the updates as a way to get feedback from potential customers early on during the design stage.

Yes, Asus (and all companies) should consider fan input in its product design...in my wet dreams, because that's never been the reality. BTW, we are a little way past the "design stage."

>Transparency for transparency's sake is a fundamental belief of mine. Up there with Truth and Freedom.

:)

I had to chuckle at how you shoehorned "truth" and "freedom" and "transparency" and "free information access" into your posts.

Would you provide your real name, bank account ID, DOB, and credit card info on here? Hey, it's only info, and all information deserves to be free, right? FREEDOM AND TRANSPARENCY! LET US HAVE FREE ACCESS TO ALL YOUR DATA NOW! TRUTH!

Why, a bit hesitant are we? Maybe it's just a cultural barrier... :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
I think you missed the point here. Open society is not about private citizens giving all their private information away (for free or not). Just read about the concept before you begin to ridicule it.

I really like sapienssapiens' argument. This is not the forum about open society, however.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>I think you missed the point here. Open society is not about private citizens giving all their private information away (for free or not).

Neither is "open society" about people demanding "free access" to advance product info. That is my point. They're both irrelevant.

I don't want to be a downer and cite "reality" to those who don't want to hear it. I understand that the joy of anticipation is as much fun--or even more than--the joy of owning the toy itself. People should have that joy, even if they get a little irrational in the process. I have no problem with people thinking the Infinity is the best tablet around, bar none. Different opinions and all that.

But sometimes things get a little too strange, which precipitate a reply. Quoting "transparency" and "free access" and "open society" in a rant passes that threshold. Perhaps I have it set a bit too low. I'll set it higher the next time.
[Asus Transformer TF700] nooktablet:
Will i be able to root the TF700?
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
No offense but that's kinda stupid question when the tablet is not even out yet and no one knows what software updates/locks Asus will put on it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] 3oudreaux:
Probably, Thanks to the hard work of the devs that share their work with the community. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] BADIC:
Word on the street is it will be 100% un-rootable.

Sent from my phone HO! (Tapatalk)
[Asus Transformer TF700] grimmer190:
You, sir, are absolutely right. Same goes for me, I'm only waiting on the Infinity because of the build quality of ASUS, because I hate Apple, and because I heard the Iconia A700 overheats like a horny teenager, but sure as hell I'm getting tired of this stupid silence when it comes to the release date. It's certainly not making me any more excited about this tablet, it's just making me consider more options (which, fortunately for ASUS, there are basically none).
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishamm:
This is absolutely right, for now, I'm apprised Asus aren't desperate to get this out, since it must be only a matter of time until it's copied. they have been lucky so far.

Come on Asus, stop ignoring potential buyers.
[Asus Transformer TF700] terjeofnorway:
I'm sure they are desperate to get this machine to market, but something serious must have gone wrong to cause the last couple of months delays. However, now these issues seem to have been fixed, so why they're still not giving out any specific launch schedules is beyond me...

Not bringing any information to the table is a bad choice in terms of customer relationship. It's like when you're sitting in an airplane waiting to depart, and not being told what the cause of the delay is. People seem to be more forgiving when knowing roughly why something's being held up.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
We should discuss accessoire while waiting :D

For example, what class 10 32GB microSD card has the best price/quality?

And, anyone with a Prime has experience with a case that also includes the dock? Would you get such a case again or do you prefer to keep it slim with no case at all or only a case for the tablet itself?
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
I'll be looking for a skin, rather than a case - like those from Skinomi.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Hmm, I doubt you can apply those to look as professionally as on the photos: eg. http://www.skinomi.com/sk11014-asus...keyboardonly-carbon-fiber-skin-protector.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I have a couple of unused armorsuit carbon fibre look skins for the prime laying around . I havent bothered to research difference in port and switches between the Prime and the infinity yet, but i hope i will be able to use them on the Infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] brucewilsonpa:
FWIW Asus just began shipping the Zenbook Prime, UX31A, w/o any announcement or, to my knowledge, other publicity. Just began showing up in the suppliers' websites -- supposed to be available tomorrow (July 18th) and since Amazon is promising to deliver on Tuesday June 19th I guess this is real. My point for all of us awaiting the Infinity is that there is an equally anxious community that has been venting frustration of the Zenbook Prime and here it is w/o "warning"...... maybe that will happen with the Infinity and it will just show up!
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
I haven't done too badly with the wet application clear skin on my wife's Nexus or the dry application carbon skin on my Nexus (yes, we have his and hers Nexii!)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Hmm, alright. Not sure I would want to put paste on such an expensive device only to get a result that is "not too bad".

I'm thinking I'll go for a removable case :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
im going for a neoprene sleeve, a nice and tight one.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
So you won't have a case for the tablet when using it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] darkfire2024:
The infinity is too sexy naked to be with clothes on. I like my Infinity like I like my women.

Beside, it's much harder to ding the Infinity because it's much easier to be careful with a device that's bigger than our phones. I'm just going to buy a neoprene sleeve, too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I have a neoprene sleeve that i used with the Prime, i find that a very nice soulution. I do also agree it would be nice to leave the tablet itself "naked". However, my experience with the Prime was that it scratched a LOT easier than the ipad. Why i dont know, different quality of aluminium perhaps?? It only took a week or two of normal use, and the two primes we had in the house were already more scratched than the ipads we have/had for a year or two. So i think i will go with the sleeve, which has proven perfect for travel, both with and without the keyboard, and slap on a skin to atleast the tablet. I am a little bit worried that putting carbon fibre look skin on it might look tacky, but its removable, so i will give it a try.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
What about this?

MiniSuit ASUS Transformer Prime TF201 Leather Keyboard Portfolio Stand Case

http://www.amazon.com/MiniSuit-Transformer-Prime-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B006ULQPTI
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
I regret purchasing a high-res screen on my laptop. The icons and text are so small, I normally adjust it in a more standard resolution. It looks like this is NOT how hi-res works on Android but it is one of my concerns.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jdor:
Are you refering to the UX31E?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Whippopotamus:
You are correct in saying it isn't how it works...

Higher resolution images are used because Android knows it is running on a higher resolution screen, so the images for icons, etc, are more detailed but the same physical size (approximately), so it looks nicer but is equally easy to use. I think that text size may vary, but I'm pretty sure this can be adjusted separately. This also applies to apps you install etc...
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Thans... the best example, right now, is Taptalk! I see no way to bump up the text size. And reading this forum is sometimes difficult.
[Asus Transformer TF700] brucewilsonpa:
No -- I double-checked to be sure it's the new model UX31a
[Asus Transformer TF700] Megalith:
Do we have any details on which carriers will offer the LTE version?
[Asus Transformer TF700] carolek:
Off topic?

I'm a new member but I thought we were supposed to stick to the topic. This and similar posts sure don't seem to be on the topic.
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
nop. I hate cases in general. When im using a device I'm careful with if. I dont want a case to make it think and ugly. I just need a sleeve for when its in my bag or something.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pun_dit:
except UX31A is not available on Amazon.com (nor co.uk), I'm checking a couple of times every day. You do, however, see results with UX31E for a query with "UX31A".

In case I'm doing it wrong, could you post a link to the product on Amazon?
[Asus Transformer TF700] brucewilsonpa:
http://www.amazon.com/Zenbook-Prime...trabook/dp/tech-data/B00863L2M8/ref=de_a_smtd
[Asus Transformer TF700] pun_dit:
thanks!! for some reason it does not show up for just a "UX31A" query, but the exact models (i.e. UX31A-db72) are indeed there. I appreciate your help!
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
You bring up an interesting point. With the Exynos 5250 supporting up to a 2560x1600 resolution, and W8 now supporting 2560x1440, the 11.6 might not be an Anroid tablet at all. With the corporate market in mind, Samsung could sell it for a hell of a lot more money as a W8 tablet than an Android tablet. I think everyone understimates the advantage and price premium (over Apple and Android) that people would be willing to pay in order to get real desktop apps, networking, and security on thier tablets.

So far, the 2012 Samsung tablet line includes three devices - G-Tab 2's in 7 and 10.1" and the G-Note 10.1. The future of the 7+ and 8.9 are uncertain and there are rumors from Europe that the 7+ could be replaced by a G-Note 7. The SAMOLED 7.7 is likely to continue as a specialty device. The G-Tab 2's have been decontented (they're also thicker and heavier) and are supposed to be Samsung's "value tablets" and priced less than the devices they replace. The G-Note 10.1 is expected to be $599 for a 16GB Wi-Fi (ouch) and, for now, is their flagship Android tablet. The G-Note has a 1.4GHz Exynos chip and the 1GHz chip in the G-Tab 2's hasn't been identified yet. If it's Exynos it should perform a hell of a lot better than the Teg2 in the originals; especially if it's under clocked.

And junrider is right, with larger distribution, a brand recognized as premium, and broad carrier relationships Samsung can sell tablets on different terms than other manufacturers. Their products were high priced in 2011 and they still outsold all other brands. People looking at BMW’s don't want Infiniti’s; even if they're a better value. If you think about it, Asus and Acer are kind of in an awkward place. They’re not going after the low-end by continuing to offer $399+ tablets and they're not price/feature differentiated enough to compete with Samsung and Apple on the high end. Between the iPad3, $349 iPad2, W8, and $199 7" tablets, 2012 is going to be a shakeout year for tablets in general.
[Asus Transformer TF700] bballer71418:
Although an interesting point. The Exynos 5250 is an ARM based soc. Microsoft has already said all x86 apps will have to be rewritten to work. That's not to say that most wont or that W8 tablets won't sell though. Since the intial 'talk abouts' of W8 I have thought that Microsoft can put a huge dent into the tablet market. Windows is a gigantic name and although W8 will bring the death of the traditional desktop IMHO, it is perfectly designed for tablets. The have thier work cut out for them but i think thier brand name gives them an advantage over everyone, even Apple. It will be interesting how the public embraces W8 from a tablet perspective as well as a desktop/laptop perspective, let's face it, its ment for touch screens. Big name companies will make a **** ton of W8 products and developers will develop for it that's a no brainer. Whether they choose to develop for W8 ARM and if consumers embrace it is the question. But it is pretty clear that microsoft is betting the entire company on W8, which is a much bigger gamble then any other Windows update. Although highly unlikely, if consumer embrace the next windows version anything like they have windows phone I think its safe to say multi-billion dollar company will come close to bankruptcy (I did say highly unlikely :P) I will buy a W8 ARM tablet soley because I think its a beautiful OS.

P.s. chrome for android better come out of beta before any type of W8 METRO release lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] KiNG OMaR:
Currently I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1, but just recently I started dying for an upgrade since my friend bought an iPad3.

I was really starting to ache for the prime, even but in a few bids for one on eBay, but then today I saw the screen of the new iPad. Compared to my Tab 10.1, the resolution on the iPad was AMAZING.

So now I'm kind of lost, I still want to upgrade to the prime, BUT I really want the HD screen of the infinity pad.

I really doubt the infinity pad will be released within a month, and even if it is, it'll be a UK launch just like the prime. So here in the US I could be waiting anywhere from 3-5 months from now.

I hate this feeling of upgrade mania. Happens every few months with me :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
You are correct. Infinity pad won't be here till end of June/July @ the earliest. Even longer if delayed. Based on the releases of Asus last two tablets, they always come out alot later than they state. PRIME has a great screen, treat yourself to the best and get one now. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] dmoney94:
i think we should go and slap Asus for keeping us waiting...
[Asus Transformer TF700] reNeglect:
Gotta admit the screen of the iPad 3 is gorgeous hands down, But you do realize if you use your android tablet to full extent (Mass USB Storage, playing practically any type of media files, Roms, Themes and such) iPad 3 is def not the way to go. Personally I wanted a Hi-Res screen tablet but with android of course... but why not just get a prime now and enjoy it till the Infinity comes out. I mean resale value should drop as much as 100~150$ if you keep your prime in excellent condition.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KiNG OMaR:
You have convinced me, hah! Amazon is looking like the best option to buy a prime at this point. Know of any local retailers in the US that have them in stock? :o

And also, is there any proof that the prime dock will work with the infinity pad?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
best buy, Walmart, Gamestop(ones that carry tablets)
[Asus Transformer TF700] KiNG OMaR:
I've been checking online, none seem to have the champagne color in store and that's the one I want :mad:
[Asus Transformer TF700] reNeglect:
Go to Google shopping then search asus transformer prime, then on the left side menu select in stock nearby
[Asus Transformer TF700] babymatteo:
FML! i think I should've waited for the Infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] giper54:
I picked up a prime at bb today. It is nice but I can't wait for the infinity. The new iPad screen is great.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Moist:
I spoke to a product manager at ASUS South Africa today and he said they were expecting the TF300 in the beginning of May and the TF700 at the end of May.
[Asus Transformer TF700] misterwal10:
Oh please let us get that in usa soon. I'm scared to buy the TP & I'm trying to wait for the infinity, but I don't know if i can wait until late June
[Asus Transformer TF700] hlenforcer:
yep sounds realistic, sure demandarin trusts every little marketing lie of ASUS, IMHO after announcing the TF700 for march and causing that much trouble with prime early adopters they said that it will be released q3 and that it is only a technical study now, the reality is that starting q2 there will appear a lot HD Tablets, and you really should not expect that AUS will hold back a finished product a whole quartal only not to mess with prime buyers, while competitors devide the HD tablet market between theirself ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] jeetS:
great, the sooner the better for me
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
OK. we will see then..lmfao you say end of may. I say end of June/July...at the earliest. you forgetting Asus has never released a device yet on time or ahead of shedule. All have been a least a couole to several months afterwards. So most here going on their release track record. not hopes and dreams..lol plus where's your proof tf-700 was a finished product? just because you saw it in a video from CES or MWC doesn't mean its finished. so we will see whose little lie turns out to be correct ;)