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[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Just prime, the tf300 had a similar issue, but it was fixed with an update.

Now I'm no engineer, but it seems to me like they're asking too much form kal-el :) If that's the case it could be the same thing with the infinity, But I hope not :fingers-crossed: as far I haven't found a definitive answer on the subject.

I'm personally not concerned about that, I've seen what the prime can do, and i expect nothing more out of it.

To tell you the truth I'll be more than happy if i can get the same performance out of the Infinity as i get form my SGSII, even if I have to unlock it to achieve that, everything else is a bonus.

I want it to have a good wifi reception (on par with the SGSII), graphics like nVidia promised, no light bleed or dead/stuck pixels, and 6hrs of battery life on video.

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You're right, I apologize.

It's funny to see how people are scared of ASUS's build quality, even though the Prime's build quality was very good all in all (It had engineering problems, not so much build quality problems), and make the best motherboards in business, and I swear I'm not an asus fanboy, I like the Gigabyte even more. I remember when I was buying my SGSII last year, and the horror stories about the super AMOLED+ burn in, and everything else... A year after, the phone works flawlessly, and is one of the best android phones ever made.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>What do u expect that everybody will just start singing praises for a product?

Actually, yes. The pros and cons of the Infinity are well-known already. There's nothing you've said that's new (although perhaps it's new for you, in which case you need to catch up).

The Infinity is apparently priced the same as the Prime. If you think it and the Prime are too expensive, you should be elsewhere.

This thread was specifically exempted for Infinity fans who are waiting for it to show up. Those who are here already know the score. It is the only thread they have, since there isn't (yet) a forum for it. This is not a thread for pros and cons, or as most here would call it, threadcrapping.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Found this Dutch review on YB.....Much more talking though...

Hier

maybe someone that speaks Dutch can translate for us....:laugh:

Sorry about that, the link should be fine now
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Hahah, unbelievable -already deleted :confused:
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
https://developers.google.com/events/io/

i/o starts on the 27th, so what are we waiting for tomorrow? Is there a special event or are we just expecting something because of that Richard guy's page?

I also remember reading about someone talking to a best buy salesperson who said the street date is tuesday. Let's hope it's true!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Its here, its here, its here, its here, its here, its here!!!!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...218671144360&skuId=5568409&st=tf700&cp=1&lp=1
[Asus Transformer TF700] modulator03:
I believe the link syntax was incorrect.

I think this was the URL he meant to link:

www . youtube . com/watch?v=IuVpD16u9P8
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>i/o starts on the 27th, so what are we waiting for tomorrow?

Jelly Bean 4.1, Nexus Tab 7", Firefox for Android. Edit: Oops I thought you mean the I/O.

>Hahah, unbelievable -already deleted

Bad link.

[YOUTUBE]IuVpD16u9P8[/YOUTUBE]
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Yeah, this video was already posted some 20-30 pages ago... and it's in Dutch.

I couldn't understand it either, still watched it :D

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old news bro... :) look a few pages back
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
I was caught up in the moment and jumped the gun :-(

But, it should be re-posted at the top of every page!
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Ritchie's room says that tomorrow they'll re-upload the ASUS Infinity videos, so people guess that something is going down tmrw.

European restock date is 08.07. -online shops say.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
I am talking about I/O. What I mean is that people are saying we should expect news tomorrow (the 25th) about the TPI and I thought it was because the I/O was tomorrow but it's not. So I'm wondering what are people expecting tomorrow.

On Wednesday, they will probably talk about the infinity as well, no?
[Asus Transformer TF700] fordwolden:
As I wrote in another thread earlier, to all of you impressed by samsung build quality, the norwegian site www.itavisen.no

has an article on a S3 exploding, shooting white flames and melting, with possible recalls. I'll take i/o issues all night long.

It's not only Asus, every manufacturer has issues with some devices. We'll have to wait and see with the Infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Am catching up alright. Let me explain something to you guys as it seems you are not getting the reason behind my rant as you respectfully put it.

I had the Acer A700, returned it after a week bcos i wasn´t satisfied with it one bit and have been waiting for the Infinity ever since. A user mentioned that he would be satisfied with a $750 price and all i said was am not paying $700 for it. Never did i mention any pros or cons (just u and some others making your conclusion). All i know is no Tab not even Ipad is worth that much.

Some of you guys should be more tolerants of others. Its not possible that we all have the same opinion, and that is no excuse to say a thread is meant for specific people. I advise you read through a post before calling it whatever you are calling it.

If you dont want to, then skip to the next but like i said everyone to his own.##END OF RANT as i give up.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
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Just like I said in one of my previous posts...

Amen to that!
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
But still not orderable..:mad:

If that is the price for the 64GB maybe the 32 GB would be ca. $80-100 cheaper, that would be sweet and all my ranting;) would have been for nothing bcos then i will get one for sure
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>Ritchie's room says that tomorrow they'll re-upload the ASUS Infinity videos

I saw the two videos before they were pulled. They're "first look" types that didn't add much. Hopefully the dude will have more in-depth ones. Gaming performance vs Prime should be interesting. Text clarity in e-reading and web browsing (vs iPad and Prime) is another. And of course, wireless performance.

Personally, I'd like to see a teardown. Am wondering if Inf still has dual antennas, or if it went back to TF101's single-ant approach. Dual ants weren't an improvement for Prime.

>I am talking about I/O.

I think it's good that I/O's stuff will be outed. Then Infinity fans can get to the next topic, such as how fast Infinity can upgrade to Jelly.

I doubt Nexus Tab will eat into Infinity's sales. They're different size brackets, and Goog tab will be cheap enough to buy along with Inf, or another tab.

>All i know is no Tab not even Ipad is worth that much [$700].

Yes, good. Personal preference. Let's move on.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Here, old news but I guess it will help clearing out some issues :)

http://www.finder.ch/de/search?q=asus+infinity&x=0&y=0

It's in Switzerland, but i think some of the retailers deliver in Austria too, not sure about Germany :) Have in mind that all are 64gb models, with tegra on stock, and krait yes to come (08.07. as they say)

Good luck!

Btw here we can se that the tegra3 version carries the TF700T designation, and the krait version is called TF700K, and is not much more expensive than the tegra one...

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I saw the videos too, everythhing looked good... But nothing I didn't already know/ expect.

I'm pretty sure they didn't bother changing the antennae design here, it was a good concept when they made the prime, bad implementation, which they hopefully fixed with the "nano mold" construction, and the plastic strip. (I remember watching a lady on youtube showing how to fix prime's wifi issues by pressing on the upper screen bezel not too hard, right where the pressure connectors for the wifi antennae are- and it worked, srsly)... I'd still like to see a teardown nonetheless xD

I was wondering the same on the Jelly Bean part :D

As I mention the plastic strip part... Does anyone remeber the first time the Infinity apeared at MWC 2012? -It had an ASUS logo on the plastic strip in the upper right corner :D It's gone now, which is a shame, since I rather liked it :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] dergraf:
I/O

some mentioned supposed I/O problems:

some users (with TF300T if I remember correctly) posted that it was much better if the downloads (or other similar tasks) in background were happening on a sd card ...
[Asus Transformer TF700] lqbweb:
In my opinion the problem is not the price. The problem is the issues they come with...

If the infinity is released with a price tag of, lets say 500€, that's only 70€ more than the Iconia A700. If it got better display, aluminium case, DDR3, and better CPU, could worth it....

The question is that if I am spending either of those 500€ or 430€ (for the A700), i want it to be perfect. Besides if I am not using some of the features, i want them to be perfect because I paid for it... Otherwise I could buy one of those chinese tablets like Cube U30GT or Window N101...

IMHO I consider all the issues involving the Iconia A700 and Asus Transformers completely unacceptable.... I mean, who was the genius who put a metal back case on the Prime without keeping in mind the wireless? or how can be possible that all the problems with the I/O in the Primes still happening after all this time? Or What are the expectations of Acer when they release the A700 while knowing the problem with the heat? or How can be possible that you stop the release of such a product like the A510 because you spotted some technical problems in the design in the last moment? That demonstrates how is the quality control of these brands....

Honestly I think Chinese brands are overtaking them in terms of design very quickly. It is much more honorable to have, ok not the most featured product, but roughly the same functionality in terms of display quality, speed, issues... for half of the price....
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
True, fixed with the last update... I think I mentioned it in some of the previous posts.
[Asus Transformer TF700] NitroCM9:
TF700 is now searchable on bestbuy.com

Not sure if anyone else noticed this or brought it up, but 64GB Memory - Champagne Gold Model: TF700T-C1-CG for $599.99 now turns up in a search for "tf700t". It just shows it's not available at the moment.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Blinky13:
Did you see anywhere the date for the krait version? Maybe i am just too blind :P Or i am missunderstanding you ;-)
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
That's your 2cents, and I respect it, but I don't necessarily agree with it.

IMHO, you pay more for it because it's better, I for one have an opportunity to buy a tegra 3 zte t98 7" tablet for 180 euros over here, and I wouldn't do that ever, I'd rarher give 650euros for the infinity... It's something I, and others here exclusively want, not because value for money, but personal value.

Also I've had previous experience with the ZTE brand and I must say that it's rubbish, and I don't mean compared to other mainstream or hi-end products, but rubbish that borders on unusable, with their network equipment in mind... Asus on the other hand build high quality goods, and currently just in this room I have 3 of their motherboards running, and 2 graphic cards, among other things- all working like a charm.

As for the supposed bad quality of ACER and ASUS: Please, HTC Sensation and iPhone 4 deathgrip much, iPad 1 overheating issues? And I've just read that SGSIII is self-combusting. Everyone has problems sometimes. I know that some of the best brands in business are Samsung, Acer, Asus, Gigabyte, Logitech, Dell, and all of them have had their share of problems, still they manage to stay on top of the game.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pvdwaal:
Dutch online folder http://dynabyte.onlinetouch.nl/

No mention of 32GB or tegra3
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
http://www.finder.ch/de/products/7729347-tf700kl-1b037a-asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700k-grau -this one now says "UNKNOWN" but yesterday it said 08.07. something changed.

http://www.finder.ch/services/redirect/index/lng/de/mid/238/pid/7729355 -this one, on the other hand still says 08.07. if you hover your mouse over the "Quantity" meter.

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Wow, thank you!

Is this price in euors (619.99)? Hope not, I don't understand Dutch, but I figured out that above that it says that with dock it's 719.99.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>I remember watching a lady on youtube showing how to fix prime's wifi issues

That'd be Lisa Gade from MobileTechReview. She did a good "vs" piece on TF300 & Acer A510 along with their reviews. I'm sure she'll do one on Infinity vs A700 vs iPad. Visit her website and let her know.

http://www.mobiletechreview.com

>some mentioned supposed I/O problems

Since Lisa will likely have all of the tablets in question, I'd suggest to PM her with your requests of what you'd like to see being compared/reviewed. She goes by "pdagal" here, and her profile is below.

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=226417

For reference, her excellent pieces on the TF300 are here,

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Asus-Transformer-Pad-TF300.htm
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Yes, it was Lisa, I quite liked her videos on tf300 and the prime both, most of the time answered exactly what I wanted to know :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] pvdwaal:
Yes, 719,99 EUR for 64GB with dock and 619,99 EUR without.

Almost same as Prime
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
I think some of you should ask if or when Asus will release the "32gig" version. Most outlet & retails are indicating 64gig but not the 32gig. This probably isn't a good sign for those who are waiting for 32gig version as 64gig might be too pricey....
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
I'm sorry, I forgot to ask... Is that for the tegra or krait version? 720euros is a lot more than prime was priced over here.

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So far I haven't found one store selling or taking pre-orders for the 32Gb version. I have my theories, but I'll keep them for myself for now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] dergraf:
Asus wants to sell more of the 64gb now because demand for 32gb will be much higher (price for 32gb and price of SD cards ...)?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Haha, if you won't.. I will.. of the possibilities. =P

Asus could simply opt not to release the 32gig version at least for the time being (could wait til Prime can be EOL'd quietly).

Pad 300 at $400

Prime 32gig at $500

Infinity 64gig at $600

Discontinue Prime's 64gig version (not that they produced much anyways)...

Market & PR Infinity as the Premium tablet (justified with 1080p resolution & extra storage space).

Asus has continued to say.. "Prime won't be discontinued & will be sold next to Infinity". Now, let's give Asus the benefit of the doubt & believe in their statement..... if so, pricing that I have stated above makes sense.

Asus can't ignore Acer 700's $450 price (and iPad for that matter)... nor can Asus ignore Prime's $500 price tag either.

Of course.. this is all a theory.... they could simply drop price (or discontinue Prime outright & give another leverage to class-action lawsuit lawyers) of Pad 300 and Prime for Infinity at $500.
[Asus Transformer TF700] iminent:
thx for complain!!!

Personally, i appreciate the complaints. How else am i gonna learn the flaws? maybe where the speakers are and how they sound are really important to me. And i wouldn't know about it unless someone complained. So thank you to everyone that is cying. I appreciate the info.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>if I am spending either of those 500€ or 430€ (for the A700), i want it to be perfect.

If you don't want issues, then don't buy Infinity (or anything) on the first day. Wait for peer feedback.

>Honestly I think Chinese brands are overtaking them in terms of design very quickly.

I doubt it. Shanzai tabs cater to the Chinese market, which is different from western markets. For one, price is emphasized, and quality is not. If you don't want issues, a Shanzai tablet will not be your love. We won't talk about support, because there isn't any.

BTW, I looked up the Rockchip RK3066 that's powering the Cube-wazzit. That--the first dual-core Rockchip--was just intro'ed in Taiwan this April (video below). You don't think it's going to have software issues? GLWT.

The video below is funny. Charbax: "So why is it called the 3066?" Rep: "Because 6 is a lucky number and we like to have them." The guy in glasses is a natural stand-up. :)

One thing I did like about no-name tabs is that they usually have a plethora of ports, including full-sized USB ports, whereas most "brand" Android tabs have underpowered micro-USB ones (a heritage of smartphone design). Hopefully MS Surface will spark a trend and full-sized ports will make a comeback.

[YOUTUBE]BdzL_S9Zruc[/YOUTUBE]
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
I understand the complaints of people who have already seen or tested the things they complain about, some of the comments I thought of when writing that weren't based on experience, rather on fears of "what if...".

One fact remains: There will always be more people who complain about their devices flaws, then people who commend their virtues. I've seen that 1000 times now and I've never let that put me off from buying something i really want. Every hardware maker has its bad series, even the good series have many bad untis, that's just the way things are. You're either prepared to take the risk or not.

Srsly, how can you say that the iPad's speakers are better placed than on a transformer, they're basacally in the same place when you're holding it in portrait mode (i.e. watching a video).
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
There's a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 chip mentioned (this is not Krait btw, Krait will be next generation), so I believe it is a 4G/3G version we were waiting for, pretty exciting!

PS As there are so many posts, it is perhaps worth repeating we are discussing this offer: http://dynabyte.onlinetouch.nl/
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Here's what I would do, if I were ASUS:

Pad 300 32GB @ $400

Prime 32GB @ $449

Infinity 32GB @ $499

Infinity 64GB @ $599

That way, they (as you mention) don't feed the class action trolls, but don't have to worry about selling too many more Primes. Who'd buy the Prime at $449 when they can get the Infinity at $499? People who want to save money would just get the Tab 300 at $399...

Unfortunately, ASUS hasn't been too consistent or, shall we say, logical, so far in their product marketing, so who knows what they're doing. Right now, they're making it very difficult to choose an ASUS machine, that much is true.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Dual-core S4 is krait based..... =)

Yup. Asus can only blame themselves....
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Well, ok, that's true, I was thinking about something else, as there were many people referring to Adreno 320 GPU, but they are both Krait CPUs, so my wrong.

Actually, the sad part of the story is the model with S4 advertised by the Dutch store is actually S4 WITHOUT A MODEM!

Look at APQ8060A on the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)

It actually says "lacks modem" :/ although this is Adreno 225 GPU and same speed as MSM8960 advertised by ASUS earlier.
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
Such a sin, wanting good audio from a $700-worth pad (in some countries, more like $1000-worth). Furthermore, can you imagine the wonderful convenience of lying on the sofa like a friggin' spider with the wires all around you and a power outlet for the external speakers? My, such a heaven!

Actually, the Krait version would be my choice (Tegra is optimized for games, not so stellar otherwise), however:

- God only knows when Tegra3 will appear at a given place, and even He doesn't know when the Krait version does

- It's a pity that choosing Krait means choosing 3g which I don't need

- Not a systems engineer, can't tell for sure if I/O problems are a Tegra3 issue or something else. AFAIK they;re associated with the memory controller, so most likely Krait will make them go away; but not sure

And BTW, all this "yes it has problems but it's still so good you should have sex with it and tell it thank you" attitude is very reminiscent of Apple-******ry. No offence, guys, it seems that Asus marketing is starting to get to people's brains. Make people pay a fortune for a seemingly good device, and they'll jump out of their skin to prove everyone they made the right choice and those who find flaws in it are losers and ranters. Stay frosty, be objective!
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Apparently it does not, see my post above.
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
He's not talking about I/O problems, he's talking about Google I/O :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>very reminiscent of Apple-fxxxxx

Profanity, especially slurs against sexual orientation, is prohibited. Reported.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tkelly0727:
Infinity up for pre order

best buy has the infinity already up for pree orders :)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...Gold/5568409.p?id=1218671144360&skuId=5568409
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Yes I know, so did I. You must have misunderstood us.

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Until ASUS themselves say otherwise, it's anyone's guess. But, I'm pretty sure that the S4 is indeed a modem-specific version. It wouldn't be the first time a store gets it wrong :)

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We should just agree that we don't agree and move on. No hard feeling on my side, far from it, you do seem to hit the point often, but somehow I just can't agree here with you.
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
Having to look for a TPI replacement, might suggest people looking for same to steer away from Chinatabs for a number of reasons.

While user experience shows that the CPU is not the weakest link of Chinatabs, there's a bunch of issues you have to be aware of:

- "ghost touches" (i.e. touches registered at a different place than actual finger-sensor contact) - appear mostly when charger is attached, caused by poor chargers, fixed by using decent chargers (shielding\modded capacitors\etc)

- battery capacity overstated (store claims 7k mah, actual battery reads e.g. 6 mah, if you tear off the label and read what's printed on the cans it may be even less)

- generally poor QC (even worse than ASUS :laugh:)

- Chinese shops not very reliable - delays, wrong items sent, defective items sent, etc

So you can be lucky and get a great device, or not so lucky, or completely unlucky. It's a lottery.

Another problem is that better Chinese devices (e.g. built on TI chips, better IPS screens, etc) are priced closer to $300, which makes buying e.g. ACER A700 much more attractive (yes it's still more expensive, but probability of quality issues drops significantly).

So either re-convert back to a person-waiting-for-the-TPI, or get an Acer, or another branded pad, but go for Chinese one only if you feel lucky.

Thanks mate, sorry ppl. Should've used "AFS", English not my primary language, so the initial meaning of the word (the word mostly being used in a context not connected with it's original meaning nowadays) went beside me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gmguk:
Apple-******ry.

Any need for that rudeness? I am enjoying reading this forum while waiting for the Infinity to appear in the UK - don't need childish bigotry in the posts please.