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[Asus Transformer TF700] ill1:
Specifically the posts from both of you guys on this thread today alone. Historically posts from both of you guys all over this forum. I don't doubt or question your intentions or sincerity with helping people you have, don't stop. Both of you all are so dogmatic in what you think about the prime Asus tegra 3 etc that it's pretty hard to be objective that way.

I've had both transformers OG and prime and I can say based off my experience that these Asus devices are no where near what you guys make them out to be. I'm not interested in the infinity, but the tegra will probably power my next purchase thus my interest in this thread.

Anything beyond that is beyond the scope of this thread. It ain't meant to be personal or turn into a back and forth, I'm just sayin...
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>just recently i was given a Dell Axim x50, high version. its old(but free).

Whoa you've discovered my secret! I love old toys! One, they're cheap, and two, they're stable. No beta testing for scairdy-cat e.mote! I let you guys have all the glory...GO BETA TESTERS, GO!

I'm getting some of them USB-stick PC toys... :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] sketcherstud:
Wifi/BT

Where was it ever stated that the Infinity has the same wifi/bt issues that the Prime has? Wasn't the whole purpose of the plastic strip on the back to correct the wifi issues? I never have seen anything saying that the wifi issues still exist on the Infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
I can confirm on my Infinity the WiFi signal and GPS are better than the Prime but it seems some issues (BT lag, etc...) still the same

I think I'll start a new thread to regroup all the posts I did here about my TF700 because you still asking questions that I already answered few pages ago...

Or maybe it's finally time to open a Transformer Infinity section on XDA ?
[Asus Transformer TF700] b1tt1:
Well, in fact it wouldn't help even if everything came with calibrated screens, since there is no single "standard" color temperature for white. Even Real World Color Management by Bruce Fraser has a lengthy discussion on why sometimes it's useful to calibrate screens to 5000K (warmer), sometimes to 6500K. In the end it's down to personal preference and viewing conditions.

But good to know that TF700's screen is acceptable.

In that image the differences are so huge that it's difficult to believe it's only because of differences in resolution. You said you took the images with aperture 3.5? That means that the camera's depth of field is quite narrow, and it seems that your Xoom is not on the same plane as TF700 (it's angled a bit towards the camera). So that alone would cause the Xoom to appear more fuzzy, if the camera was focused on the TF700 screen. In fact you can see that if you compare the left and right edges of the Xoom screen. The right edge (closer to the camera) is clearly more fuzzy than the left.

But of course I believe that the TF700's resolution gives much better and realistic textures in images. :-)

Thanks for your help in letting us know how TF700 performs!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Yep i'll try to make some more better pics closer to the tablets with only the xoom and infinity side by side
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diamondback:
Please guys, stop the trolling and the offtopic talk....

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[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
You thing that's unlucky, consider Russia with (usually) the latest release dates.

As for the prices, they are insanely high due to the customs tariffs AND high-profit-margin nature of our resellers. E.g. TPI is likely to sell for over USD1200 (hopefully, with keyboard).
[Asus Transformer TF700] b1tt1:
Thanks! While you're at it, what are your opinions on the colours on the TF700 screen? Is it over/undersaturated? Of course, if you have a calibrated monitor with a decent colour gamut, comparison photos would be nice, although quite tricky to do well. The white points are different, and you should display the same sRGB image both on TF700 and your computer, and using a ICC profile aware picture viewer on the computer (no such thing exists for Android, nor utilities to profile the tablet screen, either, to my knowledge).
[Asus Transformer TF700] flight777:
Did you read the thread? He already did a comparison shot....
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
Wonder if the non-Tegra variety of TPI shows up? Really not into this gaming stuff, and heard speculations that the Snapdragon version may be more energy-efficient. All I've seen so far is an ad on a Russian auction site for ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity 32 gb + 3g (hence, I suppose, Snapdragon Krait), delivered from USA, NY, for USD1150. Might be fake, though the seller appears to have a good rating.

Try different software. Personally, I consider Apple tablets glorified picture frames, and Android tables slightly more versatile and convenient picture frames. Good for content consumption, not creation.

If you're doing a lot of Excel work, I'd suggest buying a laptop (a small one if you need mobility, like x220) or waiting for a w8 (not w8rt) tablet in the hybrid form-factor (i.e. like the transformer prime, i believe Asus Transformer Book, Acer Iconia W510, MS Surface). Particularly if you're into some heavy modeling stuff with complex multi-level formulas, conditional formatting, and VBA.

I myself very much want to buy a w8 hybrid tablet (considering I've owned a HP TC1100), but I really need a tablet now and don't want to wait till next year to get one (besides, battery life is a big unknown for them so far). Waiting for TFI might not be my smartest move in this regard, though )
[Asus Transformer TF700] FelipeRRM:
Thanks a lot mate!

It seems infinity is a little warmer than what it should be, while Xoom is TOO cold lol. The detail on infinity does look awesome! Looking forward to getting mine!
[Asus Transformer TF700] b1tt1:
Yes I did, since I replied to that exact post. :-) But I had forgotten that the post also contained side by side real photos from Display Tester, thanks for pointing that out.

To me those images suggest that the TF700 screen is quite ok considering colour reproduction (assuming the calibrated Samsung display has a decent colour gamut). Not as oversaturated as amoled, but not undersaturated either. It would be nice to see it next to the new iPad, whose screen is considered to have really accurate colours.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
^^" sorry I don't have any iPad to test side by side the screens
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
comparison link

remove spaces: w ww. byemobile.com/ compare/Asus/Transformer%20Pad%20Infinity%2064GB%20 WiFi%20and%203G/vs/Asus/Transformer%20Prime%20TF700T/vs/ Apple/iPad%2032GB%20WiFi

remove all spaces above.

comparison leaves out a few things...

ah. And remove the %20 above, too
[Asus Transformer TF700] dagrim1:
Thank you so much! Unfortunately very disappointing results again...

Seems the only difference is the new screen and that's all (and higher clocked cpu, but that's doable already for the prime).

Well, the prime performs very crappy in IO/SQLite compared to for example the SGS3 even though some other tablets seem to have the same issues (although I read on another site that even though benchmarks showed the prime beating another tablet, was it the A210?, the real-life performance of the A210 was tons better.

Where the prime took 20 secs to install things the A210 only need like 5 max or so, etc...)

So perhaps there is still hope (workarounds and fixes so far at least already helped partially and heavy development is still going on).
[Asus Transformer TF700] sonicated:
And no doubt £499 ($780 USD) in the UK :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] gerrykv:
I am definitely curious about this. I lost a 32GB uSD card from my prime, and all I got from Asus was a generic "Thank you for your feedback."
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
With the Prime, changing $ to £, the number stayed the same and only the currency sign changed. However, in the UK the dock was included whereas in the US the dock was a $150 option.

We still ended up paying a little more for the pair but then our VAT is significantly higher.

The number was a little more in €.

I would expect a similar scenario with the Infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
well i think a €499 price tag would also be without the dock. Well lets keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
No, the microSD stays in place. You need to push long way inside until the spring eject back the card. I don't think the card can easily poke out.

But I will let you know after a few days of use if it stays like this or not.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sapienssapiens:
Asus Sweden announced availability on the 25th of July, with a 5800 SEK price tag.

That's 831 USD.

swedroid .se/asus-presenterar-asus-transformer-pad-infinity/
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cranzy:
So, which version will you guys be getting ... the 3G/LTE version ... with snapdragon ... or the WiFi version that has Tegra 3...

1) Qualcomm® MSM 8260A/8960 Snapdragon™ S4 Krait Dual-core 1.5Ghz CPU(3G / LTE)

2) NVIDIA® Tegra® 3 T33 Quad-core 1.6GHz (WiFi) CPU

:eek:

I want internet ... but want speed aswell .... :confused:
[Asus Transformer TF700] cubatista92:
I want the Tegra 3, only because I don't spend much time off a WiFi area. But I would like to see battery test of both tablets (on WiFi) and see what processor gives me a better battery life.

Now if only I could find someone that buys both tablets and is ready to sit with them for about 10 hours, or so... I think that will be the most difficult part.

I also what to see what is the battery life compared to the Prime, since there are reports that it will not last 18 Hours.
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
S4 is going to be better for a day to day use, and will most likely have better battery life (if mobile data is disabled of course)
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
+1

I am actually going to WAIT for the S4 version to be available in Europe (especially as there's a Nexus Tablet coming), mostly because of the CPU, not the 3G/4G capabilities (which is a nice addition too of course).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cranzy:
See, that's the thing. I don't have WiFi all the time , I can create hotspot via my phone .. but then the phone will need to be on charge most of the time ....

I would like to see how the Snapdragon handles the high res... and then also the battery life ...
[Asus Transformer TF700] cubatista92:
In truth, I think I would be OK with the Prime, as it is today (I only need it to access my textbooks and ebooks, check email and some Netflix) but the prospect of having the latest toy is too tempting. I know I will never be able to have the next best thing, given the tech market, but right now the Infinity and the Lenovo S2 with their keyboard docks are what keep me from buying anything.

Lenovo is bound to be very overpriced, though... Their other tablets are already up for pre-order in Canada and my wallet hurts looking at their price tags.
[Asus Transformer TF700] terjeofnorway:
What puzzles me is that brack.ch seem to be the only store in the entire world that have the Infinity in stock. Makes me wonder if they were especially selected for a planned pre-release or if they broke som sort of embargo date.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Brack is part of the Competec group, they are the biggest importer/retailer in Switzerland... so I think yes they got a special deal with Asus because is not the first time they sell something before all the others...

For example is by them I bought the last year my Xoom Wifi about 1 month before it was available somewhere else in Europe

Same for my Motorola RAZR, bought 2 weeks before it was available anywhere else in Switzerland
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
I think many of you should use Pad 300 as reference... as to Transformer Prime. Prime is just riddled with issues & is a poor representative.

Infinity 700 & Pad 300 should be similar in functional performance (such as WIFI & etc).

The main question & difference between each tablet is the 1080p display. Hope that 1080p is worth it as majority of you waited simply for this reason alone (& hope Asus QC isn't horrible in this aspect either).
[Asus Transformer TF700] mikimono:
May this shop be like a launch tester retailer? They may use this shop to test demand and possible HW and SW problems that first tablets on the market may arise.

Regards!
[Asus Transformer TF700] grenness:
I was ready with (borrowed) money in my hand to pay for the wifi version, but since the release date never arrived, and I needed the tablet to bring on my summer vacation, I went ahead and bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (discounted last weekend) just to have something to play with.

Now I'm more and more considering waiting for the 3G/LTE version, whenever that will show up - or any other top spec Android tablet with the same keyboard solution that may appear the next couple of months.
[Asus Transformer TF700] krifos:
I previously had the Prime which i sent back for refund. I was waiting for infinity, and had pre-ordered, but due to the delays and dates being pushed back all the time - along with the Surface-announcement from MS, I decided to cancel my pre-order and wait for win8.

I always loved the prime, but it had so many problems and crashes that I couldn't stand it. I really miss having a tablet, so I ordered the TF300T without dock as a temporary tab which will be passed on to my wife and daughter as a "family-tab" when I get the Surface.

The TF300T cost approx halv the price of the TF700 w/dock, and I'm really satisfied with it. It works perfectly, and is much smoother than my old Prime. Highly recommend it :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] technobuzz:
You are famous guy now..do you know that!! :D Not only in this forum, but in other not-xda forums too!! Yesterday i was checking Facebook page of Asus Tranformer Infinity, and people were referring to this forum as QUOTED:"There 's a guy from Switzerland that already has one and is giving his opinion and answers on all questions people are having. Interesting read!"

I soooo envy you right now..:p

On serious note, thanks for answering all the questions and taking out time to post comparison/screenshots for everyone!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Oh... I didn't know that o_O? crazy people are crazy

Do you think I need to start a new thread to regroup all the tests/photos a did and the questions all the users made here in this thread and in PM ?

Tonight I'll make new photos of the tablet in macro mode to show in detail the build quality
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Put some videos up on YouTube, then after you get a few thousand hits (you will) apply with Google for monetization. Then you'll start making a little bit of coffee money...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Evergreen74:
Yes, that would be a nice idea... Thanks for sharing your opinions with us.

Enviado desde mi LT22i usando Tapatalk 2
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Ahahaha... yeah but no , I don't have free time enough and/or enough tablets/phones at my home to make a good video comparison . But nice idea anyway :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
nooooo dont make a new thread till the infinity comes ojt please. we always check.this . i dont wanna check 2 threads :s lol. please and thankss
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
if i can get an unlimited data plan (i doubt it), i will get the LTE. If not, i will just settle for the wifi version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] marder:
Thanks for the head-up nivlheim !

I just ordered mine from Brack.ch (I'm from Lausanne)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
I'm going wifi. I dont want to pay extra for mobile data functionality I'll never use (I'll just bluetooth tether my Atrix if I need to) and wifi models of tablets tend to be more popular, which means its more likely that the wifi version will have better dev support.

I'm not a fan of Nvidia seeing how their poor support of future Android versions is a major reason the Atrix only has hackish hardware acceleration in CM9. But I just cant justify the extra expense of the Qualcomm version, whatever it ends up being.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gingi999:
So i have an unlimited 3g data plan from the ipad1, do you think ill be able to pull the sim out of the ipad and put it in the infinity? The current ipad is on AT&T

How much worse will the s4 be than the Tegra3, and how much will the battery be affected by the 3g?
[Asus Transformer TF700] StefaanBoonen:
DDD3 or DDR2 ram

Thx for all your valuable information and efforts on testing !

The ASUS TF300T has DDR3 RAM for sure.

Would you please have a look on the box and tell us wether DDR3 made it also in the TF700T ?

It seems it does make a difference in synthetic testing benchmarks at least (compared to DDR2 - DDR2 bandwidth being a bit more limited in the prime vs the latest 300 PAD).

Thx.
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
USB 2.0 and external HD

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if the TF300 or TF700 USB2.0 can handle an external HD

without

a brick for power. I'm thinking of getting this drive:

Hitachi Touro Mobile Pro 750 GB USB 3.0 7200RPM Portable External Hard Drive

My existing external 2.5 USB drives require 2 USB connections, one for data and both for power. Although this Hitachi drive (above, from Amazon, I still can't insert a link) uses only 1 USB connection, and it is backward compatible with USB 2.0, I haven't seen anywhere if it will work with USB 2.0 with only the one connection.

What would be great is if the TF700T had USB 3.0. Then I know it would work and it would be fast! Maybe they'll change the specs by the time it is released here.

Thank you in advance for any information or knowledge you may have on this.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
i agree, carriers usually take long to send out updates. look what happened with the Motorola Xoom. It took verizon 6 months to push it out. I will stick with wifi devices only.
[Asus Transformer TF700] StefaanBoonen:
MTP

Edrodata,

Dunno the answer to your exact question but another sure way to get very fast transfer between the TF300T, and I guess to TF700T too, is following:

Connect the HDD to a USB 3.0 port on a WIN 7 PC. Plus the USB connector of the 40 pin cable into another USB 3.0 port. You can now transfer a lot of data between these devices using the MTP protocol (driver gets automatically installed). Theoretical speed is very high. I tried this (with my TF300T) and it sure does the job in no-time.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Not just that, I was thinking more like rom development. CM9/AOKP/MIUI, etc. Also, smaller tweaks like that IO scheduler that seems to be helping with the prime's web lockups.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
The people want a video sire!

Film a "best of" video or something, the people want it, hell we demand it! :D

Seriously man, thank you very very much for your input so far. Personally, I've been waiting for this baby to pop up for six months now, eagerly googleing it every single day. I'm so sorry that those swiss companies don't ship electronics over here (it's only a 5-6 hour drive) :(

Anyway, thanks again, you made ma a very happy man to say the least.

Now feed our craving with some videos of the goodness :D

P.S. I've acually found a swiss dealer that will sell you a 64gb model with dock (both colours) for 750.00 CHF (that's 624.412 EUR), so any1 from Switzerland feel free to PM me so I can give you the link, or look it up for yourself @ ATundA :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
need direct connect to the TF700T

Thank you for your reply.

What I want to do is to store my movies on the external USB drive and be able to watch them from the TF700T using only the TF700T and the external drive.

Maybe if I just keep watching this and other forums I'll get my answer. But thank you again for your reply.

Edro
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
You can do that on all other transformers already, look it up on youtube. IDK if I'm allowed to post links here so I can't show it to you, but there's this guy I've subscribed to a few months ago on YT and he did a video on it. Channel's called: Vgjfelix and he seems like a guy who knows his prime :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
If you don't have your answer by tonight, I'll test it for you on the TF300. I have an Iomega 500GB eGo portable drive with 2 USB but I always use a single one. It's USB 2.0 though.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Just for kicks, I ran these on the Toshiba Excite 7.7 I'm looking at, as a comparison. Looks like the TF700 and Excite are about the same performance, and much better than the TF201 results posted earlier. So, more good news for the TF700.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
know you have been getting several requests but would be glad if u can do a test for me. I will like to know how warm the tablet gets especially the CPU during different tasks like browsing, watching video or playing games. can you download the System tuner app from the play store and do the CPU test for us.

Depending on how hot the CPU gets will determine if i should keep my Iconia A700 or not. Am still within the 30 days return period
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Sigh, they aren't great numbers either. Granted.. better compared to Prime, Infinity, Pad 300... and even Acer tablets...

HP Touchpad beats all Tegra 3 device in androbench/sqlite benchmark. =/

For quadcore tablet... should be near SGS3 performance....
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I think at some point the question becomes: is it fast enough? I'm finding the Toshiba to be quick enough at everything I throw at it. If the TF700 is nearly as quick, then that would probably be good enough for me.

I'll be interested to see if the TF700 is overall as quick as the Excite, since the Excite is running at 1280X800 (on a 7.7" screen, so pixel density is still nice and high). Hopefully I'll still have the Excite in hand when I get a TF700 to look at, and if so I'll be posting plenty of comparisons.
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
S4 is supposed to be better than tegra, at least according to some reviews out there. As for 3g drain, don't know and don't care - unlikiely to use it as Russian plans are a rip-off... But definitely don't want tegra, with it being game-oriented and the poor experience of those who had tegra2 with hd video (I know tegra3 doesn't have this problem, but there's a sort of poor aftertaste).

---------- Post added at 07:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:32 PM ----------

That actually depends not only on the current supplied by the tablet's USB port, but also on the drive itself: both the "box" with the SATA-to-USB board and the HDD itself, which can be different even for external drives of the same make. So the only way to be sure is either to test the devices on hand, or to know exactly the current necessary for external HDD spin-up\operation and the one supplied by the tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
He already said that the tablet doesn't get that hot during the benchmarks, look it up on the last 5-10 pages...

Then again my sgs2 gets hot only when charged and used at the same time with screen brightnes high...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Ok ! For now the tablet is charging, I'll do the test after that
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
USB 2. test with 1 connection for the drive

Thank you! That would be great.

I'm guessing the newer 2.5 drives and external cases somehow use less power, green and all that. So I realize that my older drives/cases might not work. But I'm looking to get a larger external drive anyway.

The question for me is whether I need to wait for a USB 3.0 device connection. I'm sold on the TFT700T except for this one aspect. The latest photos of the display by O_o were great. I've tried out the TF300 in BB and was sold..except that I like the better res. display of the TF700.

Great forum! I'm really enjoying (most of) the discussions! (not the OT ones, of course)

Edro
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
So are you satisfied with your new device so far?

I've checked and seen that the next batch of devices will arrive 05.07.2012. in Switzerland, my guess is that's the day it will arrive to the rest of Europe.