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[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
I've drafted a forum request for the Asus Transformer Infinity TF700T below. Please go to the thread and support it with your comments, in hope that the Infinity will have its own forum sooner than later.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1732081

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I would like to request a forum for the care and feeding of the Asus Transformer Infinity:

http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/

The Asus Transformer Infinity will be the best Android tablet available this year. It will be one of only two Android tabs with 1080p resolution, and it will be the only one with a docking keyboard. As thus, it would be the flagship tablet for Android, replacing the Transformer Prime.

With Asus as Google's launch partner, the Infinity will likely be the first to get Jelly Bean after the Nexus 7. But unlike the Nexus, the Infinity's 10.1" outdoor-usable display, combined with keyboard dock, is a more versatile and useful device, capable of replacing laptops.

I realize that this isn't the official "channel" for a new forum request. But I think the Infinity is more than just your typical Android tablet, and deserves to have a few words spoken for it, more than the basic "+1" response. Given XDA's major role in advancing Android development, the Asus Transformer Infinity deserves to have a place here.

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
The guy here actually says the Infinity can get warm or even hot with the screen brightness set high:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Pdgqk1aIZUI#t=1417s
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
I'd be suprised if it didn't, my sgsII gets scolding hot when the brightness is pumped up to max... It's only natural man.

And besides, 3 other guys said the infinity doesn't get that hot so its 3:1
[Asus Transformer TF700] rcatron:
This may be a dumb question, but given the odds of the Infinity having the same IO and/or browsing issues that the Prime has - what would be good reasons to buy the Infinity?
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
It could happen that the Infinity has the same IO issues, as for the browsing issues have in mind that next month the Jelly Bean will be released which will have chrome as a default browser -so no browsing issues.

I started writing some of the best reasons, and i quit after the fifth: You should just know that it's the best android tablet out there hands down, whoever says othervise doesn't have a clue.

Just look at the youtube videos :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Good point. Still, it's a shame S4 with better heat management does not seem to be coming anytime soon (apart from the "Swiss" no-3G model).
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Just realized something interesting.

Acer A700 are released with Android 4.04....

but

Infinity 700 is still on 4.03 (at least on all the review units).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Not really a big deal. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that 4.0.4 was just some Galaxy Nexus specific bugfixes.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
I bet prime will get Jellybean first before infinity pad ;) or it will drop simultaneously on both devices.

its funny how despite all these new tegra3 devices releasing or released already, Prime is still considered the best out of all of them. Despite its issues. According to majority of major tech sites, blogs, reviews, etc..

who will be the first tablet to truly dethrone the Prime as top Android tablet? I can possibly see Infinity pad but that's really the only one. reason being its basically a prime with a higher resolution screen and plastic strip across top of metal back.
[Asus Transformer TF700] physicsguymatt:
Best Buy's Infinity page is gone.

No longer listed anywhere on their site where I am.

Hmm...
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Nope, that was 4.02

4.04 made significant stability issues from previous version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Asus said that an update is already online, don't worry, you'll get your 4.0.4

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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you, as far as I'm concerned Prime was dethroned the moment his maker announced they have something better. That's the moment I decided not buy the Prime but to wait for the Infinity.

Those reasons you stated are exactly the ones that matter the most, just like prime, only better. It's just superior, If you want better battery life you can go better, but besides that Infinity reigns supreme.

That's just my humble 2c tho' :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] modulator03:
Forgetting something?

I know the processor overclock is pretty much canceled out by the extra load from rendering higher resolution, but the Infinity's DDR3 ram (vs prime's DDR2) is a nice performance boost in my opinion. Almost makes up for it being only 1GB...
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
All tablets have glare. Period. I've had in my hot little hands the OG Transformer, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, Transformer Prime, Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7", Toshiba Excite 10 (AT305), Toshiba Excite 7.7, and the new iPad. All of which I used extensively, and all of which have extensive glare. And that includes indoors. Until someone comes out with a tablet with a matte screen (doubtful), it will always be the case that overcoming glare means re-positioning the tablet or cranking up brightness.

The only two that have been even marginally usable outdoors (in SoCal, at noon, on a bright sunny day) have been the Prime and the Excite 7.7. The new iPad is among the worst. Of course, the Prime and the Excite 7.7 also suck down battery life like there's no tomorrow when outdoors and in full brightness, but that's the price you pay for sunlight visibility.

Want to read ebooks in direct sunlight? Get an e-ink reader.

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Yes, like I said above, there is likely to be no other tablet with better sunlight viewability.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
The Prime got quite hot when in Super IPS+ mode.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Well, the tf300 has ddr3 too...
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
the 300 has ddr3 also and improvements over prime ddr2 was very minimal. if even noticeable at all. keep in mind I believe software issues are holding back both devices. but yes, ddr3>ddr2.

right now, in these tablets so far, ddr3 hasn't shown any significant performance boost. 300 has same I/o issues as prime. Software/drivers, IMO,s the culprit. plus initial tests shown on infinity pad, I/O wise, show similar performance to prime. So ddr3 hasn't seemed to really help it. or at least initially.

ill take ddr3 over ddr2 though. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
In real world it really doesn't make any difference, so you're right.

Although I must say I quite like the fact that both infinity's ram and processor run @1600, (not that it makes any difference, bottlenecks always exist, but still a cool thing ^^)
[Asus Transformer TF700] nooktablet:
i hope it will be on amazon soon,

i've been making money online and now i have about $400 in my amazon gift card balance, i was going to buy the TF300 but now we have a new toy. still need another $100.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
fuuu** all... lol im going to buy the transformer prime.. i leave in july 5 soo..... i cabt vuy the infinity... so i will buy the prime
[Asus Transformer TF700] nooktablet:
i would buy the 300 if i were you.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
why??? please answer me i dont kno what to buy... pros cons.... 300 or prime? i watchd soe videos aned prime win in benchmark... or im wrong? answer pleae
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
I wouldn't.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
TF300 is 100Mhz slower, has a dimmer screen, has slightly poorer battery life and is made out of plastic instead of metal. However, its $100 cheaper and in real world use you probably wouldnt notice the loss in speed. Not to mention the prime's poor wifi and GPS reception, an issue that does not affect the 300.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
get a prime ;) take a look at the thread in my sig. called Positive Transformer Prime thread. I think it may convince you. Either way, 300, Prime, or Infinity Pad would be a great choice. You decide :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] gunner1937:
its funny how despite all these new tegra3 devices releasing or released already, Prime is still considered the best out of all of them. Despite its issues. According to majority of major tech sites, blogs, reviews, etc..

Answer:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2582...w_stylish_highperformance_android_tablet.html

"Bottom Line

The Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 takes over from its predecessor as the top Android tablet available. You get high performance mixed with high style, and you don't have to make a lot of sacrifices to get both. Other tablets--including the Prime, which is expected to drop in price once this model gets into the market--may provide better value, but no other Android tablet will give you the full package that the Infinity does."

Next!!!:D
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
I like that. but the infinity is just the prime reincarnated ;) good find. I'm sure the infinity tab will be a great device. I've even entertained thoughts of owning one. but I can't see myself spending that kind of money so soon, even 6+months later, on infinity pad after buying my prime. I still love my prime and still amazed with it as much as the first day I got it. wish more people had the same experience.

I will be buying a Google/Asus Nexus tablet though ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] newellj79:
Just catching up but u.s. release date is 7/18 right?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
7/16, although they did say "or later" so who knows.
[Asus Transformer TF700] denniegst:
did any reviews mention anything about light bleeds?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Just for fun, I checked out Best Buy Trade-in program (for those who are thinking about upgrading from Prime or Pad 300).

Pad 300 Good condition: $141.61

http://www.bestbuytradein.com/bb/fu...ts&modelNumber=TF300T-B1-BL&manufacturer=Asus

Prime Good condition: $114.80

http://www.bestbuytradein.com/bb/fu...ets&modelNumber=TF201-B1-GR&manufacturer=Asus

Yup, Pad 300 (the supposed inferior product) gets more respect from Best Buy.

Oh, and for fun.. I checked out iPad 2 as well...

iPad 2 WIFI 16GB Good condition: $213.75

Fair condition: $160.31

Poor condition: $128.25

http://www.bestbuytradein.com/bb/fu...lets&modelNumber=MC979LL/A&manufacturer=APPLE

Yup, Good condition Prime isn't worth as much as Poor condition iPad 2 16GB WIFI only version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
all of those prices are a ripoff. they would be seriously getting over on people if they got any of those tablets for those prices. id never trade in a tablet at a place like that. youll easily get more on ebay or craigslist. id rather give my tablet to a family member or someone than lose out on the majority of value like that.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
This review mentioned that theirs had the issue:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/25/asus-transformer-infinity-wifi-review/

I"m hoping its not that bad. I can live with a little bit, but if it were anywhere near the levels my Touchpad had that would be a deal breaker for me. I'm being optimistic though, supposedly the TF300 was known for light bleed but all the display models I've seen have been either fine or its been so little it was hard to notice.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I don't think that's the point. The point is, Best Buy does SOMETHING with the tablets they take back, and they see less value in the Prime than they do the TF300 and an iPad 2 in poor shape. That says something...
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Now we know when to expect it in America, but what about the rest of Europe (except Switzerland and Norway) ?
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Regardless of weekday they do, it's still a ripoff. You're better off selling it on Ebay. Just check the prices for used prime and see the difference.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Before I was considering the TF700, I was looking at a TF300 display model at best buy, and someone who was with me commented on the plastic back. I asked one of the employees if they had any display models of the Prime since I didnt see any out and I got this bullcrap explanation of how Asus discontinued the Prime because of its GPS issues and that the 300 was its replacement.

At the time I thought it was just one ignorant salesperson, but seeing those trade-in offers has me wondering if the entire company is that idiotic.
[Asus Transformer TF700] GuillermoJones:
More Bluetooth/Wifi testing please..

I can't wait to get my hands on an Infinity, but I am still weary of the bluetooth/wifi issue...this is a huge make or break issue for me, so I was hoping maybe one of the new owners can do some more testing on this.

nivlheim_o_O? or Marder...do you guys think you can test this out a bit more? I know there was some quick testing done earlier, with mixed results, but I was hoping you guys could maybe look into it further.

It would be grreat if either of you could test streaming movies from Netflix/Hulu/etc, or even just streaming audio from Pandora/IheartRadio/etc, while outputting audio via bluetooth to BT headphones, BT speakers, or to a BT enabled stereo receiver. Hopefully there is no wifi fallout like with the Prime, but even if not, I'd like to hear what it does to the connection speed and if it falls off. Is there significant speed loss with BT on streaming audio to a device?? Is the audio still synced to the video??

Thanks for all of the early info and reviews guys!!...I'm envious, and appreciate all the posts and info!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] denniegst:
Also test how secure the sd card will stay in =D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Averybry:
Good thing you have that little phone in your pocket. Or, you know, an off switch on the tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] marder:
Yes I could read some preview from the site, but the flash application is not very good (when you click on the "next page" button, the page is downloaded on the background, but you get no clue that something is happening).

I tried the official Android app from Marvel : it is much better and optimized for tablets.
[Asus Transformer TF700] terjeofnorway:
That´s true. However, given the fact that all tablets have som degree of glare, I figured that the TF700 glare issue must be especially bad since several reviewers bother to mention it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Parastie:
Something similar happened when I asked my mother to pick up my prime in the states. I had her print out the web info for the prime and the dock and take it to BestBuy. Even though the sight said her local store had them in stock, they had no idea what it was and had to order them in for her.
[Asus Transformer TF700] eleger91:
the 9 july for France
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
The TF300 has DDR3-667Mhz, which is slightly faster than the DDR2-500Mhz found in the Prime. The Infinity however, has DDR3-1600Mhz, which gives a lot higher bandwidth, over triple the Prime's, actually. Sure, it won't make everything faster, but when you're driving a 1920x1200 display it helps. And when you're limited to a a single channel interface, there's not much else you can do but boosting the frequency. The Infinity is faster than the Prime, no doubt.

As always, Anand knows his stuff:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review/3

And the GPU performance part clearly shows that the increase in bandwidth does help a lot in many cases. Results here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review/4
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
After being the first to announce their release for 10-June, Italy has moved the date out to mid-Jul same as France and Spain.

Apparently ASUS Benelux have given a release date of 13-Jul which roughly falls in line with ASUS France's, ASUS Italy's and ASUS Spain's "mid-July".

ASUS Deutschland has said end of June for Germany and Austria but that was via Facebook back in April.

Out of all of Europe, the UK is being singled out again for some middle finger treatment - by ASUS this time - as we are not to see it until sometime before 1-Sep, and definitely not before 1-Aug (they're refusing to commit to a date). With the North American release too looking to be ~16-Jul, this blows hairy chunks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
good find...I ran out of thanks.

this article also shows there's a bigger difference in battery life compared to the prime than originally thought. especially during gaming sessions. Prime battery has infinity pad beat by a noticeable margin. Infinity pad does seem like the ultimate tab now. They improved on more things than I thought. Aside from battery life, they took prime experience to the next level overall. If my prime wasn't running well, I'd likely want one. the wifi performance alone is clearly improved. especially further away from router.

based on this Anandtech article, I'm impressed with infinity pad. this article has me thinking now..lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
No "Period" is in place here considering that some tablets may have worse glare than others.
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
Its here on Techradar: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-700-tablet-headed-to-us-in-july-1086956
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
it also seems I correct in that originally posted clock speed for infinity pad, by a new owner. I knew it wasn't 1.9Ghz..lol. its more like 1.6Ghz most of the time and it rarely hits 1.7Ghz on a single core. What it does tell me is that, like when prime first got ICS, there's an even higher clock rate in stock kernel, that's disabled. Just like with prime, Infinity pad will need to be rooted in order to enable the higher 1.9Ghz speed. Ezoverclock "Might" work. but unsure if the values in THST app are either fixed or is based upon what you device is capable of. regardless, it should easily be able to be modified. Or if your inifinity pad is rooted, you can manually enable/execute the higher clock speeds. expect a significant drop in the already shortened battery life of inifinity pad though.
[Asus Transformer TF700] b1tt1:
At least some reviewers don't seem to think so. This is from a review comparing Infinity and the new iPad:

"Also, both tablets are usable outside, in direct light, with a small plus towards the display on the Asus Infinity, which is slightly brighter and less reflective."

http: //www .tlbhd.com /asus-infinity-tf700-apple-ipad-3-16766/
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
Amobil.no stated the same thing.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Thanks mate, now i know when to expect it. Do feel sorry for UK though. But the good thing is, once available on other Euro zones, it can be ordered online. So you need not wait until August to get them in UK.
[Asus Transformer TF700] b1tt1:
That's probably true for the tablet itself, but not for the dock. Variations in key layouts make ordering the dock from another contry less appealing.

(Let's hope I don't have to consider that. Asus Finland has officially said that Infinity should be available in Finland on week 30, i.e. about 23rd July)
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
Usually though that has tended to work out more expensive than the eventual selling price here in Blighty!

The Infinity is going to do enough damage to my bank account as it is! Still waiting is a ***** isn't it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
ASUS United Kingdom have just responded to a post on their Facebook page.

It seems that the UK should finally be getting it early August (subject to change) and it will be the 64GB version only.

No mention of colour choice or price so the only definitive info we have now is the size of the storage.

I didn't want 64GB or to pay the extra for it.:(
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
No need to feel sorry, in fact the Euro is getting weaker and weaker so chances are it may even be cheaper to buy the tablet in Europe than the UK.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
Just when I had pretty much decided to get one for sure the news that it will be 64gig only. Not sure I want to pay that.

Not being funny but the whole thing has been a mighty lash up for us poor UK fans.

A 64gig model only and bundled with the keyboard is probably going to price out all but the keenest enthusiasts. Pretty annoying how rubbish the communication has been in all. Very disappointed.
[Asus Transformer TF700] marder:
It's on Slashdot...
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
After reading most of the online reviews (Anand's being the best), I'll probbably go for the Prime.

Battery life is very important in a tablet, even more so than wifi.

And as i plan to do heavy gaming on the device, Prime will be a better tool for the job.

3.75hrs gaming battery life- you've gotta be joking!
[Asus Transformer TF700] JPop360:
A reply from ASUS about the delayed United Kingdom release -

"We understand your disappointment in waiting, but as some have speculated, the delay will ensure sufficient stock to meet demand at launch. As for price, we can't yet confirm, but can let you know that the unit will be 64Gb and will come bundled with the keyboard dock. We anticipate an early august launch, though this is subject to change. We make these decisions based on the feedback from our customers after previous launches."

In short, early August release, only the 64GB with keyboard dock bundle. (for UK)
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
I'm taking an educated guess here, but given that the 32GB Prime was £499 at launch in the UK bundled with the dock and the Infinity was announced in February as costing $100 (~£60) more than the Prime, I would not be surprised if ASUS don't try to sting us for £599.

However, that would be just stupid as the 64GB iPad3 is £499 and no normal punter walking in off the street would pay more than an iPad for an Android tablet, dock or no dock ...even I won't and I'm a self professed Android fanboy.

No, and because I don't want 64GB anyway, any more than £499 and I'm out in favour of some other 32GB HD tablet, perhaps even the iPad that my kids are hassling me for!:eek:

I just hope ASUS see sense because I really don't want to have wasted 6 months waiting for it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Just like Australia.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Atlas7:
ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity is out look asus web site
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
You're right it would be idiotic of them, an android tablet more expencive than the iPad3 is a big no-no today, especially if it's not that (if any) better than the iPad- especially to the average consumer, which is like 85% of the buyers, people who don't visit forums.

It's not likely, there's evidence of ASUS cutting production costs of the Infinity. They probbably did that so they can price it like the Prime.

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Why, what do you mean, my friendly neighbour?

You mean in Croatia or what- links please :)

P.S. Can you tell me where you bought your Prime, I thought buying from protis.

Did you root/ CRom it?

Sorry for the OT all!