yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nokia Lumia 800] svarog84:
It seems that they fixed low quality audio problem

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2012/03/02/new-nokia-lumia-800-firmware-fixes-most-of-the-issues/

And battery drain as well. If discharge current is really around -65mA it should be much, much better.

Let's hope for surprise and tethering option available too :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] mattmanslim:
I really want to flash this firmware to my lumia but i've got no idea how to do it. I've downloaded the firmware with NaviFirm and i've got the Nokia Care Suite but I don't know how to flash the phone. Every time I select the Lumia 800 in the Product Support Tool, the options for flashing are blanked out.

Can someone please make a guide.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
You can find information here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1457341

Please note, that it seems there's only Vodaphone branded firmware at the moment. That could change as soon as more versions become available.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Marvin_S:
Cool :)

A couple of questions:

How are low light pictures now? Still grainy?

How are good light condition photos when you fully pinch in on the photo after it has been taken? Do the pixels still look "stretched" a bit?

Did they fix the stuttery video playback? I.e. try playing a video on youtube and report if it stutters. This is one of the biggest issues besides the battery and problem also increases battery drain (bad video drivers).

Anyway just the reduction of the battery drainage when idle is massive, good job Nokia :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] mattmanslim:
Hmmmmm my Product Support Tool doesn't feature the RM-817. I have the RM-819 though.
[Nokia Lumia 800] svarog84:
I will wait for unbranded FW. My Lumia is already TIM branded and ihope for full debranding with next FW release :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
No :)

You can use the 'Refurbish' method, outlined here (it's what I do to flash my Lumia): http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20799527&postcount=44
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
You're supposed to put the RM-819 files into a folder titled RM-817.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Jragar:
How are you finding the battery drain so far?
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
Don't want to speak too soon, but it seems tons better... I have data on (Edge only atm), wifi, location services, spent about 15 - 20 minutes on the phone and it only dropped 2%! Phone is syncing hourly with GMail (email + calendar) and I have Facebook on it too.

Haven't charged since flashing, so haven't gone through any full charge cycles yet to properly test it. However, this chap was given the firmware for testing a little while ago and he says the battery drain bug has been fixed. I'm inclined to agree :)

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Ohhh, I didn't realise he wanted to flash RM-819! Thought this firmware was out for RM-801 only! My apologies :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] jnr21:
Can you check if there is finnish language and keyboard?
[Nokia Lumia 800] mousse04:
a little question:

if I'm not with VODAFONE and I flash this ROM, does my lumia still work?
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
Yes, there is a Finnish Region Format and Suomi Display Language :)

Yes, it will work. Just run Network Setup.
[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
Hey can someone wring out the new camera a bit?

* Does the pink spot still appear in indoor halogen, non-flash?

* Does the LED flash still color everything green?

* Are night shots still green?

* Besides the above problem resolutions, are there any improvements? How do the new features like panorama work? Any cool surprises?

Thx

From one too cautious to take the risk himself.. :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
There are no new camera settings, as far as I can tell.

Red tinge is still apparent in low-level lighting: http://imageshack.us/f/707/wp000000g.jpg
[Nokia Lumia 800] account1:
ok succeeded flashing new 12070 firmware!

Greek supported too
[Nokia Lumia 800] microhaxo:
damn, i hope a generic update comes out soon, i dont want to vodaphone brand my nokia..
[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
Ouch.. that stinks..
[Nokia Lumia 800] shawchyn:
Can anyone with 12070 firmware confirm the following:

1. Beside the Orange Logo splash for few second, this ROM are same as others open market?

2. Is all 22 languages that currently support is available in this "orange branded" ROM?

3. Does it void my warranty?
[Nokia Lumia 800] surya467:
Ummm....link for this ROM pls...not there in NAvifirm for me...:/
[Nokia Lumia 800] molio:
3G drain

sorry if I bother but any news about the 3g drain at idle? I always thought that the battery drain was caused by bad drivers on 3g connection so I'm just curios as hell about this info :D :o

Another thing: have I understood? You said you've lost only 2% from 11 am yesterday to 3 pm today on Edge? This would be amazing! :eek:
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
It's my understanding that flashing firmware that is not your actual product code would void your warranty. Of course, they'd not know this if you flashed back to the correct product code before sending for repair. :P
[Nokia Lumia 800] maxld:
It seems that 3G is broken, only have Edge at the moment. Gonna investigate more.

Edit:

Everything works, it was just my panic :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ricehead:
Dont be so sure, we all know samsung have installed flash counters on their S II's.

Just a warning

OP: Just about to flash mine atm. will update on Music performance as i always use my Lumia as a Music player.
[Nokia Lumia 800] maxld:
Music is superb on this one. Bass in comparision to last firmware is great. Now I can throw my iPod into a drawer and use my phone instead.
[Nokia Lumia 800] nok_fusion:
someone can tell us which languages include in the vodafone NZ rom?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ricehead:
Praise the lord ;)

P.s I'm atheist :p
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
I'm going to a 3G area later tonight, so will let you know more when I know :)

And no, the 2% thing was just this morning... I haven't had a chance to fully test battery yet as I haven't put it through a full charge cycle. It's currently charging now (and it's taking a lot longer than usual... good or bad sign??)
[Nokia Lumia 800] maxld:
:D good one.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ricehead:
Could be, There's some myths about how In theory longer charges = Longer to discharge, I myself don't really know. I hope this wasn't Nokia's "fix" rather than lower the power the phone uses.
[Nokia Lumia 800] account1:
French included :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
Hmmm, no, I do think the idle power usage has been significantly reduced. But charging is taking an age!

I'm hooked up to the mains with the official charger/cable, and in the past 20 minutes it's moved from 84% to 87%... o.O

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Ok, there is something weird going on. Since typing my previous post (1 minute ago), it jumped from 87% to 100%... :confused:

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Ok, unplugged charger, it dropped straight down from 100% back to 87%. Plugged back in and it's charging again... :S
[Nokia Lumia 800] molio:
Copy that. Thank you! I'll wait patiently for updates. :)

Regarding the long time for charging or the wrong battery % could be that you should go through a complete cycle before you get a reliable indication. On firmware 11501 I got my phone shut down with 3% left regardless a complete cycle or not. I assumed this is a wrong indication from the firmware and hope this could be fixed on the new one...
[Nokia Lumia 800] Razorfold:
The nokia care suite also has a file called refurbishlogger.dll

So I wonder if it stores that information somewhere on the phone.
[Nokia Lumia 800] mikerpalmer:
I installed the 1600.2487.8107.12070 version on an older RM-801 phone and compared the battery drain and camera white balance.

- The new firmware battery drain via the diagnostic tool showed between 60 - 110 mA while idling (mostly around 80). The old firmware runs between 130 - 150 mA while idling.

- I took two identical pictures with the phone. The new firmware def has a much better white balance. The pictures are more true to life (and not reddish like the older firmware).

- No new camera modes (that I could find).
[Nokia Lumia 800] ridolfo:
Is that with 3G on, or off? So far the concensus was that 3G was responsible for the higher discharge.
[Nokia Lumia 800] shithead:
Maybe a stupid question, but where can I download this update? :s I don't see a link in this thread :s

Sorry, don't have any experience (yet) with installing leaked/custom updates :P
[Nokia Lumia 800] mikerpalmer:
Yes, 3G and wifi are on (H Icon)
[Nokia Lumia 800] ridolfo:
Thanks, that is a significant reduction.
[Nokia Lumia 800] microhaxo:
I am new to nokia phones, (just coming from my htc hd7) What's the process to flash this?

I have the firmware downloaded, i have the Nokia Care Suite.

Do i have to edit files to match my phones id???
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
I'm such an idiot - completely forgot to check the discharge rate whilst I was out! Will check it as soon as I get another chance but, judging from mikerpalmer's post above, it seems as though even with a 3G signal it only drains ~80mA on idle...

I took my phone out of charge at 87% (reportedly) tonight, been out for 6 hours. I have GMail and Facebook syncing, WiFi on, location services on, auto brightness, sent around 5 texts, 10 mins of calls, and played Wordament (I'm addicted!) for approximately 10 mins. It's sitting happily at 83% right now.

Such an astounding improvement compared to 11501.
[Nokia Lumia 800] xsacha:
I thought WP7 was the end of good battery life on Nokia's. Looks like they still have a few tricks up their sleeves.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jnr21:
With 3g it drains ~70-90mA on idle.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
That's like double the standby time compared to earlier. Probably even a bit more. Since we can only measure idle consumption with the screen turned on. And if the power consumption has gone down to almost half while the screen is turned on, we're in for a good treat.
[Nokia Lumia 800] aslan93:
The main battery problem that people are having with the lumia after the last official update is that it lasts ok (30 hours) with normal usage 3g on, calls texts music some browsing in my experience and maybe also lasts ok on the second cycle but then starts draining badly on the third and a reboot or a reset is required to bring it back to normal.

Therefore could those people that have it installed try to keep your phone up for a couple of days charging it every night even if its at 30 or 40% left and see if after two or three cycles like this it can still do as well as before. This will be much appreciated.

To the person who was testing the battery from 87% down (sorry im the phone now and can't remember who you were but i believe you are the maker of the thread) anyway i don't believe you can get accurate results this way in your situation (where the battery was jumping between 87 and 100%) let it fully die then recharge it completely for like 3 and a half hours and then test. Sorry again i don't mean to be rude its just that with the last update i have absolutely awesome battery life somedays and others it dies in 8 hours. I found out the cause for this being lack if signal for a while (like an hour underground) im on three so only have 3g.

Also for those that see the idle consumption and then ask whether 3g is on or not, i have something you should know: when 3g is idle it drains very little battery at least in comparison to WI-FI, however its the opposite when you use internet: 3g drains a lot, and WI-FI not so much..
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
Well you are correct about that. We need some time before we can fully know the new firmware's effect.

True. But idle never goes below ~130mA with 3G on on any phone. He said he had 3G on and the idle is about half of that. That tells we do get much better battery life.
[Nokia Lumia 800] molio:
No problem at all. Guess you were chattin' with girls and having drinks so I think you got better things to do! :D ;)

On the other hand we already know from others who flashed the same that it drains about 80 mA on idle....

But I have another question! In Diagnostics two lines under AverageCurrent there's the StandbyCurrent value. On firm 11501 I have 5-7 mA on Edge and 9-14 mAh on 3G. How much is yours on 12070? :confused:

Thank you!
[Nokia Lumia 800] aslan93:
Nokia did say the diagnostics tool was showing incorrect readings. I believe this is one of them. My Lumia showed >150 even when i had a very good battery life. I carefully monitored the idle consumption on my n9 which is way more accurate and considering that they have identical batteries i dont think the Lumia would last this long, on such high idle consumption, as it did (almost two days and i have my phone in this idle state a lot of time, i just like to read a lot of news etc which should have about the same consumption value as idling(dark background, preloaded content))
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
I am hoping that only the full charge capacity was reading wrong! Time will tell for us =)
[Nokia Lumia 800] jnr21:
New diagnostics tool doesn't show that much information.
[Nokia Lumia 800] aslan93:
Nokia's idea of solving the problem is just hiding what they can't get right :)

I am not an expert at this but i dont think windows phone can do things like diplaying info about the battery accurately so maybe it's not nokia's fault because the n9s tool is just fine. correct me if im wrong.

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Also, Nokia are very good with words on this one.

They acknowledged the "battery issues" and promised two fixes. And they actually did! The problem that they said the Lumia had was not using the battery to it's full capacity and they solved it. Now our batteries are draining perhaps because of some process getting stuck or 3g drivers. So not directly battery related things, therefore they can say that the battery is fixed so that more people go and buy the porduct because they will feel more emotionally secure. Meanwhile Nokia will quietly continue to figure out how to solve other issues that really cause the battery to die.

Very simple strategy and we dont care anymore really, if the next one is going to fix the battery for good then we won't complain, at least i wont :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
Yeah, as jnr21 said, the new Diagnostics app doesn't show this. They completely removed the 'Detailed Battery Info' section and we only see discharge rate and voltage in the 'Battery Status' section.

It is a bit fishy as to why they did this. I can only assume that there are still a few issues with battery readings (full charge capacity, remaining charge capacity, etc). The only way to find out this information with 12070 is to make sure you have the Diagnostics app installed on 11501 and wait for the update on Zune. The 11501 Diag app will be carried through the update and you'll be able to use it then...
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
There are new firmwares to download (12070).

Nokie 800 RM-801 Country Variant India IN New India (cyan, black & magenta)

Country Variant, doesn't that mean no branding?

EDIT:

Now those are gone from the list. Managed to download the black version though. Not to comfortable flashing Indian version though without knowing what I get!
[Nokia Lumia 800] shawchyn:
May I ask a "stupid" question, where to download the firmware? Any links ?

Thanks!
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
I downloaded it through DataPackakeManager from Nokia Care Suite 5.0. I think it's equal to navifirm or what its called.

But as soon as I had downloaded the new firmware it disappeared from the server again so there's no way to download it now I believe until it shows up again. I was lucky to catch that small window to be able to get it.

I have it ready for flash. But I need to know if it's unbranded or not. And if there are any other differences that would make things weird for me here in Sweden.

As far as I know County Variant (CV) means that its unbranded. Not sure if there are any other differences in the Indian version also.

EDIT:

If someone wants it I can upload it to my server in a compressed file.

EDIT2:

Now it's available again in DataPackageManager...
[Nokia Lumia 800] shawchyn:
I had downloaded the "Nokia Care Suite 5.0" and installed, but it seem to having problem to detect my phone, coz I am using Windows 7 x64, and I dont have non x64 system in my inventory. :mad:

So, does it mean, I cant using Nokia Care Suite 5.0 to download?
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
I'm on Win7 Ultimate x64 too and I have had no trouble with it finding my phone. Not sure what could be wrong for you :confused:
[Nokia Lumia 800] shawchyn:
After trying for multiple USB port, I manage to get it detect my phone, but the Product Support Tool show is offline, I wondering how to set it online.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ricky119:
I think there will be more country variant ROM available in the coming days, I'm still waiting the AU un-branded one
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
You need to manually install the correct drivers to get it to work. Navigate to:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Nokia\Nokia Care Suite\Drivers

and launch:

WinUSB Drivers x86
[Nokia Lumia 800] deeaz:
..

I installed the vodafone branded version . and its work great in denmark . no problem. i install now the india one . hope for unbranding :D ,

the vodafone branded one only got a vodafone logo on the bootscreen . all others are just like the other ones.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
Please report back how the Indian version works!
[Nokia Lumia 800] rozi12345:
i want to install RM-819 update on my RM-801 and i tried but it didn't work.

if someone would help please.

the main problem i have that Nokia Care cant find the file that i downloaded from NaviFirm.
[Nokia Lumia 800] svarog84:
Did anybody tried india version?
[Nokia Lumia 800] kingcartwright:
currently downloadin India version and then will flash
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ricehead:
Heres a video explaining, Video is private share the link (Personal reasons)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQq_xxfv56k
[Nokia Lumia 800] kingcartwright:
flashed India version no boot logo... all seems to be working fine, just needed to change location is settings and phone reboots and is fine.

Also it doesn't mention anything about India Variant in the About Me phone section

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you actually get some extra wallpapers nice one of the Taj Mahal
[Nokia Lumia 800] Razorfold:
I can confirm this.

Apart from the apps it installs (which are all uninstallable obviously), and like 2 pictures of the Taj Mahal there's no way to tell the phone's variant.

Hence as far as I can tell this is an unbranded ROM.

Downsides of 12070: I still don't really like the lower brightness settings, but the much improved battery life and audio quality make up for that.
[Nokia Lumia 800] deeaz:
about india version

Its for me also unbranded, no bootlogo from other than Nokia. The thing other users says are the same here, there was apps from India but sayed before uninstall able. Looks like a Nice rom . I fully charge it tonight and wiat now for a Nice Battery time. :-D i will flash a danish version then its come online :-) just to be sure for the real version for me on my phone.
[Nokia Lumia 800] shithead:
Stupid questions, sry I'm with the flashing etc:

1) So to flash this new rom, I need to install via Nokia Care Suite 5.0, right?

2) I've read you'll need to reinstall the apps after the flash/install, but does it mean it will delete every data on the phone, like accounts, music and pictures?

3) What if I don't like this new unofficial update, can I go back to the latest official rom?

Sorry for these questions. I am used to flashing to Android phones, but WP is totally new for me :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] chaihg:
All those having problems with not able to flash and NCS not running and etc.

Just go to seidea dot com and download officially the latest version of NCS and Data package manager. Install NCS, then go to Program Files and find the winusb drivers in nokia folder. Install drivers. Reboot. Now install data package manager reboot.

Now you are good to go. Dont forget to reboot. Its most important because it is given in their instruction manual which I read.

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Also the instructions manual said that the first time will be a failure. So you have to try again till you succeed. For me it went through well only on second try.
[Nokia Lumia 800] gladesmellzgood:
Is the India version that's only available to the RM 801?
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
At this moment, yes.

There was initially only a Vodafone branded for New Zealand. Then, the three color variant unbrandeds became available for India. I'm sure more will trickle in.
[Nokia Lumia 800] gladesmellzgood:
Do you know if you can flash 801 SW on a 819 or should i just wait for a country variant for the 819. I'm brand new to WP7 so I have no clue. Also can you downgrade firmware or go to another version of the same firmware. For instance if I DL a firmware from a carrier then I want to go to an unbranded is that possible?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Every11s2RuleDWorld:
You may want to check the latest 12070 firmwares for RM-819 (Telecom NZ & Telstra AU).
[Nokia Lumia 800] gladesmellzgood:
Yes I noticed that after I posted and tried to download the software but for some reason after each download the software disappears. Also since neither carrier has the Lumia 800 do you know if it is branded or not?
[Nokia Lumia 800] shawchyn:
I just check, the 12070 ROM for India all four (include White) colors and Vodafone NZ Matt Black are available for download
[Nokia Lumia 800] gladesmellzgood:
They are there what I'm saying I think there is something with the way Nokia Care Suite is installed because it says that I download them but when I go to look for them they're not there. I've tried changing the directories to where it downloads but with no avail it sucks alot! I'll just wait till Nokia pushes it to my phone.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Razorfold:
Use Navifirm then.
[Nokia Lumia 800] gladesmellzgood:
I'll give that a shot then.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Noppes123:
I renamed the downloaded NZ files to match my devicecode, selected the RM-819 Product (with RM-801 all options in NCS are grayed out) and start the Recovery.

It starts checking the device and seems to put the phone in some sort of recovery mode and then I get a 'checksum failure' error.

Downloaded the files again (with NaviFirm+ 1.7), same problem! Will try DPM now... :confused:

I tried it several times, unplugging and reconnecting the phone after it reboots.. always the same error.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
I tried FW from navifirm when RM-819 came out. Couldn't get it to flash. :(
[Nokia Lumia 800] gladesmellzgood:
LOL yea I've officially quit! Nokia Care Suite is f'ing stupid!
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
Flashing Indian version as I type. Thanks for the testing people!
[Nokia Lumia 800] aslan93:
check out how many new versions there are for the lumia 710, (RM-803)
[Nokia Lumia 800] ciapata:
Installed Indian rom, can't report battery life so far. Seems like there's no mute mode for camera, also when running flashlight app, there's chirping sound as if you start recording video. The keyboard doesn't give random tones anymore. Weird, since Microsoft was kind of proud of this concept and I did like it!

Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
Indian firmware flashed here too. All fine. No problems here. Audio sound fine again in my Audio-Technica ATH-M50! No flat sound anymore. We'll see about battery life it it increases futher. I have not had problems with it prior flashing though (other than it not being very good, just not bad either).
[Nokia Lumia 800] spgi:
Download firmware from Data Package Manager
[Nokia Lumia 800] anaskr:
is the CALL ENDING bug Still there or iS it Solved?