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[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Sorry if I missed something. What camera issues?

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Basically, yes. I got some minor lags in the games menus, but not in the games themselves, which seems fine (I've been playing Heroes Call THD mostly + some GTA III). I don't get lags with normal use of tablet, even with bigger pdf files. SuperNote runs supersmooth ;-) After having it for over a week, I can tell you that many issues are bad software (which hopefully will be the case with some I/O issues, though I don't think all of them will be resolved; I am waiting for JB 4.1, new kernel, new firmware and the like anyway). Use the sio scheduler for general performance, use RepliGo for faster pdf rendering, use Dolphin Browser for faster browsing with HW acceleration, use BSPlayer for HW movies decoding, use balanced power mode for daily use (I use it even for gaming) etc. Don't ever use the stock web browser in the ICS ;) (although I miss its big scroll bar thing)

Hopefully others could share their experience with best software for doing X, Y or Z too.

Yes, it does. As well as other aspects of tablet performance. There is bigger difference between power-saving and balanced than the latter two however.

Edit: Let's just start another thread about apps for the Infinity! I invite you all to take part in it, so we can figure sth out together :-) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28571353
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
One more issue described in a Russian forum: Max Payne, GTA and Shadowgun games crashing. Problem occured only with one tablet; problem occurred ONLY when using IPS+ mode, so most likely caused by power drain or something.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
or heat perhaps? (-> slowing down GPU cores)

BTW, I wonder about all this advertising of "IPS+ for direct sun" thing etc. I was using SuperNote in battery-saving mode today while sunbathing and the battery in my Infinity in 100%-bright IPS+ went up to ~48*C in the sun beams (and it was only about 25*C today). It was scorching hot and only TranSleeve made it barely usable. I'm not sure I want it to become that hot anyway.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ali I Hagen:
I am having my Infinity for about a week. Cant say I am impressed at the moment. Overall it is to laggy.

I am having to issues while using Antutu Benchmark

1) The total Antutu score is 4141....... and shouldnt it be around 12k? Yes, I have selected performance mode.....

2) Antut details are showing the display resolution to be 1200 x 1848.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
Rotate your tablet and the rez is changed to 1128x1920. It's the commandbar thingy...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
1) Try a factory reset? Not sure what the procedure is for the Infinity, but it might help. If it doesnt, try exchanging your device since yours might be defective if a reset doesn't help.

2) That's normal. The missing pixels are taken up by the status bar.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
I had these (~4000) too. Try changing the scheduler to sio (only after rooting).

And if you want better GPU and CPU results, change your CPU governor to "performance" (different than "performance" power mode), but this can kill your battery life, as it will make your CPU clocks run at the highest speeds (1600-1700 MHz) all the time! Then AnTuTu should show ~12000.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ali I Hagen:
Sorry, my bad :)

One of the first thing I did was factory reset. And just did right now and result is.......... 11829 :D Thanks :)

Sorry, rooting isn't a option at the moment. I have been tempted but since I have 14 days return policy I will wait. Seems like factory reset helped :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1761616
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Ok, thanks. Yeah, I get this too, wouldn't notice otherwise as I'm not much of a filmmaker ;) Doesn't bother me at all, I didn't get myself the Infinity to make movies while manually focusing on things, lol, but I see somebody might be bothered by it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] opentoe:
You are better off with a regular laptop then a very high priced Android tablet if you are going to be doing a lot of multi-tasking. I actually never heard a tablet being used in such fashion. Downloading torrents, watching movies all at the same time? Even low powered laptops have issues doing that.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Just bricked mine while applying V6 SuperCharger (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1764592).
[Asus Transformer TF700] tvachev:
What lines?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Dub Tech:
Gonna ask someone else this evening what they think of the screen and then fill out a returns form tomorrow if they agree with my conclusion.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
I've contacted Asus regarding my memory-card issue and the first thing they ask me is to reset my tablet.

NOT going to happen. It's brand new, never been hacked/tweaked/modded/rooted.

I've installed BS Player, MC Player, AnTuTu, SD Tester and a simple terminal app to allow me to run dmesg to see the errors from mounting µSD. No reason why any of these would prevent android from retrying mount with different speed sd interface. Logs say it doesn't.

To test how smooth it runns with a torrent in background I got aTorrent too, and let it dl to a 4GB card. I did have some choppy playback but when stopping torrent and replaying I still had choppy playback so it may be the file.

I think if I were to rate the os on the Infinity today I'd say Immature at best.
[Asus Transformer TF700] acdcking12345:
I was going to get an Ipad 3 because I didnt want to wait. But I went ahead and ordered the Infinity anyway. But hearing what some poeple have said, including yourself, I am wondering if I am making a mistake in getting the infinity...

Your thoughts?
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
I still believe the issues are mostly sw related and a result of them not being ready for launch like usual.

Looking at all the horrible issues the tf101 had and how it only now appears ok stable I guess it's the early-adopters price all over again.

If I had a µSD extender I could have a look at the signals and prove the sd card issue is the tf700's fault, but as-is I can only speculate.
[Asus Transformer TF700] acdcking12345:
I assume that you are going to keep the TF700, correct? I thought you might have mentioned looking at the Ipad 3 at one point, but could be wrong on that. I am still in the air on what to do.

The TF101 was a nice tab, and was fairly stable for me. The Prime that I had had horrible light bleed and all of the other issues too. (Wifi, GPS, etc)

I know that the Ipad's OS is very good and is stable. But I sure love the ease of usage, as well as the flexibility with android..
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
I have looked at different apple tablets, and they are all the same with minimal changes from version to version.

I won't bother with them for the simple reason of the companys policys. I refuse to use itunes and I dislike how all good apps turn into a feature of the new ios version witout the devs getting anything for it. I also hate how they make it hard for people to develop on, again because they really want your code.

The fact that they have no expansion of memory makes them completely useless for me.

Not being able to multitask without breaking warranty is also a no-go. I have to admit I haven't bothered checking the latest as they simply don't appeal to me anymore.

They also have non locking docs making it silly and dangerous to trust when working on it.

The only thing I really like about apple is how they test stuff before releasing.

I may end up returning it if there is no update very soon, as it's just not finished.

If it had been more open I could have fixed it myself, something I really don't want to do as I buy a product so it should just work...

(I have 30 days return and my window closes 2012-08-03 as I received it the 4'th this month.)
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
1. No, the temperature at the time of crashes appeared normal to the user. So it's most likely to do with increase power drawn by backlight in the IPS+ mode.

2. IPS+ does get the pad warmer, and in the sun it will indeed heat up even more, perhaps too much for comfort.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Some of you might be interested in the benchmarks results I've just had after wiping my device, flashing the TW firmware and changing the scheduler to sio and governor to performance (for testing purposes, as it could be a battery-killer): http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28611759&postcount=31 (we had a discussion on benchmarks in this particular thread)

I'll be doing some build.prop tweaks too.

I've noticed a slight boost in performance apart from benchmarks, the device seems a little less laggy (I can do sth while the apps are being installed, but it still slows down), not sure if it's just because of wiping the device or new firmware (which doesn't seem to be changing a lot...).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Svashtar:
I have posted a question regarding the IO issues on the Asus Global FB page.

They have conveniently removed my post :)

So, I don't expect any information from that source.

On the other hand, I think they are very well aware of the problem. :D

I have ordered it yesterday and despite all the problems that are popping all around the infinity threads, i can't wait to get it.

I think 14 days is more than enough time to test it thoroughly and return it if it doesn't meet my expectations.

By that time, Nexus 7 will probably be just around the corner in my country and I'll have to wait for something better with it.

Not complaining, seems to be a sexy little thing. Small. Small. But enough until something...
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
Just cancelled my pre-order with J&R....so wonder now where to get it.....
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
Went to a shop today and tested the UHS-2 card from SanDisk in a TF300 and got a reader for it.

Atto result here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28655007

The TF300 got a hissyfit, but the usb3.0 reader gave incredible speeds!

The card is definately ok. The TF700 is not, and nor is the TF300.

They do NOT fully support UHS-1 (SD 3.0) even though they attempt to do so.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
Does the dock support usb 3.0 thumb drives?
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
My UHS-1 microSD and SD cards work fine on the Infinity. I thought that Transformers didn't support UHS-2 only (and SDXC / 32+ GB officially)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
Can you run my copy-large-file-from-µsd test ?

What model card is it and what speeds do you get in a USB reader?

Running benchmarks fror SD, watch how the progress is. My first card which worked marginally had jerky progress.

Also, take a look in the dmesg log. Mine logged read errors all the time.

I think either my first one was marginal or fake, and did not really do UHS-1, or did so oddly/slow.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Sure, only tell me what test you have in mind, as I got a little lost in the threads here. Any specific app?

Sandisk Ultra Micro SD SDHC UHS-I 16GB Class 10 30MB/s.

Not much better, but I have a built-in reader in my laptop, so it's perhaps just slow itself.

Ok, I'll have a look in dmesg while running the tests.

It gets laggy in all of the tests, although I think the lags are smaller after my wipe + reflash, but I might be wrong.

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I don't see anything worrying in dmesg, it shows mainly CPU frequency changes, battery temperature/voltage etc., no read/write errors while doing the SD Card Tester microSD card benchmark.

What kind of errors were you getting?

Edit: Mine is not UHS-I, as we've just figured out in another thread, sorry. My full-size SD is UHS-I.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
I see interesting messages about the card and performance during card insertion, and then I see block errors now and then on old card, and all the time on new card.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Sorry, can't confirm this one, I'm getting none of these.

Are you on noop or sio?
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
All stock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
You might want to try the sio scheduler (e.g. via ATP Tweak) when you're ready.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
That would involve rooting and I may return this in around 2 weeks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
I see. You can remove "su" and superuser.apk easily though. Wiping /data and /cache from recovery mode would be even easier ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] kirerad:
Yes it does. I`ve tested and the speeds were really good.
[Asus Transformer TF700] C4PO:
Actually the specs only list a USB 2.0 port. While 3.0 devices will work, you won't be getting 3.0 speed.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Time is getting close! Is it still the understanding that the TF7000 will be going on sale next week?

Just today, Amazon.com started showing up in a google search for "asus transformer infinity"

While Amazon has no actual TF700 on their site yet, They do have the TF201 keyboards for $109.

And just in case "supply and demand" forces the price to the SRP of $149, I figure i'd pick one up.

I also got a leather case, and the USB/SD Card adapters while i was shopping.

Guess i'm committed now! :fingers-crossed:
[Asus Transformer TF700] sketcherstud:
I went by Best Buy today and asked about it. Ofcourse they continue to reaffirm the belief that they don't know (or won't admit that they know) anything about their products. I was told that the release date might just be a "rumor," but that they often aren't told about incoming shipments ahead of time. The woman I spoke with didn't even know about the Infinity. Fun... Guess I'll be stuck calling every day next week to see if it comes in.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Svashtar:
I would like to order a custom made sleeve for infinity.

I have found the dimensions of the tablet: 263 × 180.8 × 8.5mm.

I was thinking, while doing a custom one, why not to include extra depth for a dock, too.

I suppose the dimensions X, Y are the same or at least not any bigger than the tablet itself: 263 × 180.8

But can't find a thickness of the dock.

Can someone let me know where I could find this values (so, the dimensions of tablet and dock together) or if anyone knows, to post the complete dimensions.

Thanks!

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Found it here!

Dock only:

Dimensions: 263 x 180.8 x 8~10.4mm

Weight: 537g

Pad with dock:

Dimensions: 263 x 180.8 x 16.5~18.9mm

Weight: 1135g

But what the hell does 16.5~18.9mm mean? I suppose I should take the largest value?
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Alright, so I was very excited about what was going to be my first ever tablet, but now I'm not sure I should be.

Apparently it may just be a product fit for a "milking strategy", with no proper improvements other than the screen, but a nice new price mark-up.

In fact the screen may be too much for the hardware.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
tegra3 will easily push infinity pad screen. people can't even compare new Ipad screen to this because apple went overkill on the display. therefore IT HAD TO HAVE BEEFIER GPU. the resolution on infinity pad is true 1080P but not as high new Ipad resolution. so a beefier gpu in infinity pad is probably not even needed. tegra3 was already created with higher resolutions in mind. Asus didn't just think of infinity pad just recently. all of this was thought of way back and is why they opted tl use a newer variant of tegra3. testing with tegra3 chip in infinity pad has been ongoing for a long time. If Asus saw issues, they would've swapped chips out and changed its specs. only reason the LTE version is using Qualcomm S4 chip is because it has built in radio for cellular 4g data.

best believe if the Icera 4g radio chip paired with tegra3 was already ready, they would've used that one instead.

plus it will use T33 variant. which is higher clocked. plus its possible they could've upped the clock on gpu also. going from 520Mhz clocked gpu to their more standard 600mhz. we already have gpu overclocking in developement section and people pushing 75Fps on GL Bench Egypt or whatever its called..lol. so still plenty of gains and tweaks left in tegra3.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
http://youtu.be/h6GtjY5Y53Q

First quick video review today :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
even in the video you hear him say it uses Tegra3 ;) good find
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
WiFi bars look promising lol.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Thanks for the video & answers.

Do you think the tegra 3 will still be alright (as in acceptable) for apps in eg. 2 years? I do not plan on buying a new tablet every few months... this is a pretty significant investment for me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
It will be SUFFICIENT. But it will be very soon (if not already - krait s4) overtaken by newer CPUs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] GregFromUtah:
64 Gb vs. 32 GB

I have two questions...

First of all, I was wondering if it is better to spend the extra $100 to get the 64 GB Infinity over the 32 GB Infinity when a good 32 GB microSDHC card can be bought online for about $30 to $40.

I'm not looking to get the maximum storage possible (which would mean getting the 64 GB Infinity and adding more storage via microSDHC). I am just trying to base my decision on performance, reliability, and cost for that jump from 32 GB to 64 GB.

1. Is the internal storage faster than external storage via microSDHC? (Has anyone ran any benchmarks on TF201 or TF101 to compare the internal storage with some of the faster microSDHC cards available?)

2. Is the internal storage more reliable than microSDHC? (Though I have not had problems, I've read a lot of reviews on newegg and amazon about storage cards dying or even arriving DOA. So I wonder if internal storage is generally more reliable.)

Knowing these two things would help determine if the higher cost for the 64 GB Infinity is worth it, or if simply buying the less expensive 32 GB Infinity and adding a microSDHC card is the way to go.

And for my second question... Does anyone know why the 1 and 6 keys on the keyboard dock are highlighted? Not knowing why has really been bugging me!

Thanks in advance for your responses.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
Well, I guess myself and Anandtech might have to eat some crow. I did say might.

That looks like an old video and not new. Looks like a show demo I saw some time ago.
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
1. Faster. Not much faster though for some reason. I saw write speed average about 15mbps.

2.Regarding reliability... Well, probably similar, but whole units go through a qc to test its working, so when they send it out its been tested. With sd its unlikely they test each card, more likely one out of whatever number. Hence, bigger chance if receiving a dud.

3. No idea.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>Do you think the tegra 3 will still be alright (as in acceptable) for apps in eg. 2 years?
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Huh?
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
WTF, wifi still works like ****?
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
Let's not jump to conclusion here. It could have been far from access point. I just find it ironic in the light of TF201 fail with WiFi. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
It does seem very unlikely that access points are far away from a tablet demonstration spot.

If one could find a video of one of the tablets nearby, that'd be a good comparison.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>>Do you think the tegra 3 will still be alright (as in acceptable) for apps in eg. 2 years?

>Huh?

The answer is "nobody knows." It's a fast-paced market, and things can change in two months, let alone two years. It's the same as asking if the world will end in 2012.

I'm actually answering your question, because I think you have a misconception of what you're buying. This is not the same as buying your typical Windows laptop. There is no assurance of future support. Not from Google, and after your 30-days are up, probably not even from Asus. In fact, there is no assurance of anything. You're on the bleeding edge.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
good point. as there aren't too many apps and games out now to tale advantage of tegra3 or use it to its full potential. which is why I've always said Android is fighting a losing battle. what good will more powerful chipsets be if the software is always far behind? constantly coming out with devices with higher and higher specs aren't any good if its still running the same apps as a 2 Jr. old phone can. More focus needs to go on Android OS and the apps. Specs on Android are starting to mean nothing if the software is always lagging behind. maybe in a year or so android software will finally catch up to tegra3. by then tegra4 and other powerful chipsets will be out.

This trend is even rubbing off on apple. as there are hardly any games to take advantage of its A5x(ipad2) or even A5X(new Ipad). hardware specs is too far ahead of the software. then add in the fact of developers only given short time periods to release games and apps. A really good game or app can take years to develop on PC and console market. Mobile market is too fast paced for its own good.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BeIntermedia:
pricing

What do people think of the (Euro) pricing at 599 for 64gb wi fi model without dock.

Given the hardware upgrades that seems to be taking the mick a bit and drive many an eager Infinity waiter back to Prime or maybe even iPad. I've had 2 Primes so was waiting patiently for Infinity but given the 300 looks attractively priced have Asus shot themselves in the foot again with premium pricing on an iPad equivalent?
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
Pricing is atrocious, but again, they might be jumping a gun here and pricing will change. It does however make sense (still way to expensive IMO) for a 3g model.
[Asus Transformer TF700] safarigirl:
not at all check out this video the wifi signal is excellent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D5BVOLykoQ&feature=relmfu

what I noticed is there may be two different style backplates with the plastic strip top. Seems there is the sample that had the same circular back as the prime and then this sample with the anondized metal back.

This guy fell in love with the device, LOL. Too funny!
[Asus Transformer TF700] sag365:
Make sure your case is universal! The side cut outs for the Infinity are different than on the Prime. I emailed rooCASE about a case for the Infinity 10 days ago, and this was their repsonse:

Thank you for your email. Unfortunately, we don't have any information regarding a case for the Asus TF700 at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Wonder when the compatible Inifnity cases will start to become available?
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
An excellent point Sag! Some guy made a video comparing them side-by-side and made mention of this fact. The case I selected is for the tablet only, but it is the same one my wife has for here Samsung Tab 10" and it works really nice. It's made by "MoKo", and the description states "Designed specifically for Asus Eee Pad Transformer PRIME TF201 and TF700t 10.1-Inch Android Tablet (tablet NOT included)." However, no one in the reviews have mentioned how it fits the TF7000 yet.

In my assessment; the bottom of the tablet is not enclosed or obstructed (when opened), so it could actually be attached to the keyboard/dock while still in the case. Or just slid out of the case for net-book mode.

Here is the Amazon link
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ali I Hagen:
Norwegian right?

I got my TF700 from PS.no as well. Do you also have problem browsing finn.no? If you try to slide the pictures from the ads, it is quite bad response and transistion?

Be in contact with PS.no since I might return it,