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[Asus Transformer TF700] ronaldheld:
I was thinking of getting a Prime in about a week, but with the infinity coming, I could use some advice. Is it worth the wait for the higher resolution on the WiFi model + $100 extra?
[Asus Transformer TF700] newellj79:
I would highly advise against the Prime. Of course everyone has opinions but typing on one right now I can tell you the keyboard is the best thing going for this model. My Prime was/is plagued with problems like far to many others. If you can't wait to test out the infinity I would suggest the 300 which is producing pretty good user reviews. My 2 cents.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ronaldheld:
Are those problems widespread and uncorrectable with custom ROMs or software upgrades?

How like is it the infinity will still have thise issues?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
The best decision is your own :)

easy answer. just wait. whats the rush? dont be an early adopter if you not built for it. 300 has its own issues its dealing with. just check out their forum here and youll see. every device will have its gripes. just like prime owners divided on those who it works well for and those who doesnt. Same with 300 right now. Dont assume everything will be peachy will infinity pad. wait for a while after release. look at the tech reviews. look at user reviews . then make your own judgement. Prime is still the best right now along with the acer. Prime is the only one with well established developer support right now. so if you into modding and flashing roms, factor that in also. As prime is the only tegra3 tablet out that has that.

Moral of all this, make your own call. Following someone else recommendation will set yourself up for high expectations and disappointment. Best move is to wait at least a month after it releases and see how its being accepted. that is the smartest thing to do. I was an early adopter of prime and was fortunate to not have to deal with stuff others have. you wanna be an early adopter of infinity pad, fine, but be prepared for any possible early issues. As with any newly released device. The best decision is your own.

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thats the problem. people assumed too much. people assumed 300 would be perfect n have none of the issues prime has but that's not the case. No guareentee infinity will have them solved. I mean aside from wireless issues some primes have. it will run the same ICS that's causing widespread issues across all different brand devices on it. 300 has the same I/O issues. infinity pad will likely be the same. its not hardware related. its all software related so Asus n Google n Nvidia will have their work cut out trying to sort the software issues. Even Acer is reported to have same I/O and browser problems at times. I think this is more of a google problem that needs addressing how ICS performs on tablets or sets its priorities.....

like i said before, best way to find out is to sit back and wait patiently.

custom roms are always the best anyways and solves alot of the issues. that's why you never see the "real" custom roms users complaining. only a select few who still like to be caught up in the dramatics will still come into general section and complain. most custom roms users are stoked to be running AOKP or CM9 or GUmmy or Team EOS rom. they stay out of general section most of the time because they are satisfied & tired of the drama here. You have people still on stock setup not even rooted and more than satisfied with prime. even once some people switch to a new device, like infinity pad, they will still complain about something. likely it not being unlocked like prime.

I'm more so interested in Asus google nexus tablet with tegra3 and new tegra4 tablets down the road.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Not really, it was just one of the fans posting it, probably tired of waiting too..

[edit] or maybe you were right.

Anyway, the 28.05 for first pre-order shipment and 10.06 for the official store release both seem pretty accurate right now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jdor:
What is AOKP?
[Asus Transformer TF700] borchgrevink:
Bump....
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
Are there not similar programs in the market?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
The Adreno 225 is less powerful than the Tegra 3. Whether it's powerful enough to drive the 1200p display on the Infinity is anyone's guess right now. Even the Tegra 3 will run into problems if there are games running at native resolution on that display. Apart from games though, I don't think it'll be a problem.

The Snapdragon S4 CPU is a slightly newer architecture than the Tegra 3 which means it's faster in some areas, but the Tegra 3 is still rocking twice as many cores which will have an impact in other areas. The only thing that might be quite different is the battery life. 28 nm vs 40 nm, even with the Tegras low-power core, is quite a difference. The HTC One X has about 20% better battery life with the S4 SoC (AT&T version) vs the Tegra 3 version.

What annoys me is that if the Infinity supposedly is going on sale in just over a week here in Europe, why aren't there any reviews up yet? Surely they need to have some review units ready by now?
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
Which would perhaps indicate we are being a little ambitious in our expectations?
[Asus Transformer TF700] asdasd89:
Thanks for the explanation.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Because we all have to learn how to EXPERIENCE the INFINITY of WAITING (and beyond) ;-)
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
basically....
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
No need!

Does anyone actually know when the Nexus Tablet announcements are actually going to be made?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Andreas527:
I don't think it will go on sale next week. What we have is only the stores that have come up with a date that they think is right.

Asus Sweden said to make a announcement the 28 May. After that we will now. But for now there is no point to watch the online stores and other "rumors".

Asus Prime & Tapatalk
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
Well i've done gone and ordered me one:D from spaceworld.no. I hope i'm one of the lucky few who gets one of the 15 from the first batch. Release date only 6 days ahead. And i've got a SGS3 incoming at about the same time. Life is good:cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Probably, yes... :(

So that's where the name came from :p

Let's hope you're not left waiting for a product with a release date that just keeps slipping then :)

I'd pre-order one from Spaceworld myself if it weren't for the fact that I'll be on a long business trip around that date, so I might as well wait until I get back. Or I could order it while I'm gone so it's delivered and waiting for me once I get back. Two birds with one cup and all that. I hate waiting for things I've ordered... :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
haha! well said d14b0ll0s :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] ronaldheld:
I do not have a problem being an early adopter with all of the support at XDA. I am concerned about waiting a few months, see as I could use a tablet within s month. Too ambitious gor a US release?
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
If i don't get it on the 28th, i'll look at what other options i have at that time. I can then cancel my order or leave it as is. I will buy it in any case, and if spaceworld's batch is delayed, chances are everybody elses is too. I just wonder why komplett.no and mpx.no operate with 20th of June? They are pretty big stores, and should be at the front of the line when Asus ships the tablets.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Silenti91:
they are probably just being realistic
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
Hehe. Most likely
[Asus Transformer TF700] DroidTemplar:
Insiders and amazon/ebay scalpers?
[Asus Transformer TF700] borchgrevink:
Thanks.

Looks to me like the Adreno is actually MORE powerfull? http://www.grandmax.net/2011/11/nvidia-tegra-3-gpu-performance-and.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] ronaldheld:
Why no preorder on Amazon, kust seeing accessories?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Yeah, it seems better in some areas at least on paper. In benchmarks, as limited as they are, the T3 is slightly faster IRCC. That's at 1280x800, though. The results could be very different at higher resolutions. I guess nobody (apart from the manufacturers) know how well they both perform at 1920x1200.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JamesRC:
Interestingly, the Oxford Street London branch of PC World is selling off the Prime for £489 (wow, huge discount(!)).

Could simply be clearing old demo models, could be making way for the infinity at the same price point.

Edit: Prime no longer available on PCW website too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Official Asus Confirmation

In another thread here, Gary Key has confirmed today that this tablet will be launching by the end of Q2. We all suspected this, but good to have a definitive confirmation. Here is the post by Gary: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26425513&postcount=12
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
yep, it was like I've stated weeks ago. he was the one who told me...lol

by end of q2=by end of June. for overseas, as we know they releasing first. I'd hope American release is shortly after or not too long. alot of people here are waiting and getting impatient.

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here goes what i said that i found. posted on May 3rd. i said it weeks before this but I'm not searching that far back..lmfao not that serious.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
People, including myself sometimes, listen only for what they want to hear...it is human nature. You shouldn't take this so personally. If you said the TF700 would be on Bestbuy's shelves all over North America tomorrow morning, you would be a hero ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I read Garys statement as regarding the US launch, due to the FCC comment.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
I hope you are right.
[Asus Transformer TF700] techtied:
Awesome!

This is great news! Finally some info from a good source.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
It would be really cool if i actually got my infinity in a week or so, but i guess thats just wishful thinking. Some interesting days ahead for shure:o
[Asus Transformer TF700] newellj79:
Funny. I could have sworn I read you saying not in the states until the end of the year.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sam3000:
He'll weasel out of that like normal :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
you all funny.
[Asus Transformer TF700] opentoe:
You guys that went through like 4 or 4 Prime tablets due to QC issues aren't really thinking of getting this tablet right away, are you?
[Asus Transformer TF700] ill1:
I thought I was the only one thinking that as I read this thread. You took the words right out of my mouth!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] davideo80:
Just curious as to the reasons Asus may have in releasing the Infinity to the European/Asian market before the Americas.

Could it be that:

1. the West has caused Asus more grief than anywhere else in over-communicating the issues with the Prime (WiFi/BT, GPS); and

2. the consumer base in the Eastern Hemisphere may provide more realistic feedback to any potential problems not identified (missed or ignored) by Asus' own QA department?

Would it make sense to assume that Europe and Asia are more understanding of issues in first-iteration products than us North Americans, and Asus sees that as a chance to find their mistakes and fix them before North Americans fill the web with complaints?

Not all posts I've read discuss the Prime issues with the same culture of entitlement as others. I've read some posts that simply complain about the problems as though Asus stole their retirement savings, and other posts simply warning potential new buyers that certain features that they value highly may not be as well developed as others. I am quite eager to be an "early adopter" of the Infinity, to discover the new features implemented in the flagship device, however Alberta probably isn't high on the list of regions to demo this product. So I understand all the good stuff will be discovered by the Nordic group who have managed to get their pre-orders in long before Western Canada will see one fine pixel from the Infinity. I only ask that the first Infinity owners on this site post pictures of themselves enjoying it while I wait for the mythical "End of Q2"
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
Oh I'll post pictures alright. I'll even write an erotic novel!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cool_story_bro:
you could have one today :D

http://omaha.craigslist.org/ele/2898532360.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] Arun01:
Wow!! :eek: ....I see he's including the keyboard dock too but there's no need for it if you have the keyboard dock from the current TF201 because it fits the TF700.I would love to play with this baby!
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
I thought they said already the old dock isn't compatible with infinity pad. Its supposed to have a dock of its own. Plus infinity pad isn't as thin as the prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] junrider:
Its probably from the CES model so it would be compatible with the TF201 dock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Arun01:
No this was my concern too.But if you watched all of the tF700 vids.Someone did ask if the TF201 dock would work with the TF700 & it was confirmed that it would.Trust me i would've already started a thread flaming Asus if they screwed this up too lol.:cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
oh that's cool then. once it releases I'd triple check just to be on the safe side. at least that'll save some people from having to buy a new dock or Asus creating another one.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Erusman:
Man I want that TF700 so bad. lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] junrider:
for $1,300... dont need it that bad... haha
[Asus Transformer TF700] tbns:
I do wish Android tablet makers would set a maximum of one month from announcement to availability. Announcing things so early only gives the competition time to retool, and mental masturbation for forum mites (like me). It also kinda makes you feel bad when you buy a tablet, only to have the next gen announced soon after, even though they won't be available for some time.

Do they do this to drum up anticipation? Or maybe so they stay on the cutting edge as far as publicity goes, even if the product isn't complete?
[Asus Transformer TF700] borchgrevink:
Would love it if it supports wireless full screen mirroring a la widi...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ready2Mosh:
I am waiting on this tablet too and holding onto my keyboard dock. One of the biggest things for besides the higher resolution is the fact it will have Gorilla Glass 2 and I think they said they adjusted the memory card slot so it isn't sticking out like on the Prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
I may suddenly notice that my GPS isn't working or that I have lightbleed in a handful of months :D Especially if the old docks will work.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Rogue100:
Anyone know if 5Ghz wifi will be supported in this?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cozmo85:
Only if bluetooth is turned off. GPS is enabled, but not locked on, and you hold it at a 90 degree angle.

Ohh and you will need to run a wire from the inside to the outside of the tablet and wrap it 3 times.
[Asus Transformer TF700] reNeglect:
Already have the prime but I still want a android tablet with a HD screen. The Asus TFP Infinity or the possible Galaxy Tab 11.6?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ready2Mosh:
Rumors are the Galaxy tab !!.6 is going to be a bank drainer and I'm also leary of Samsung, they just make a new device instead of updating their current line. They seem to be getting better at updating, but still, I don't trust them.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
that Samsung 11.6 is rumored to be a dead project now. if it does surface, it'll be no time soon. maybe fall at the earliest. plus you have to deal with touchwiz bloatware over android. Prime/Infinity pad vanilla Android experience is the closest to stock Android/google experience. meaning it performs the best out of all android tablets. no bloatware UI overtop of android. plus Samsung is verrrryyyy slow to update their devices.
[Asus Transformer TF700] almightywhacko:
Does the keyboard for the Prime work with the Infinity?

I was under the impression that they weren't compatible because the Infinity will be a different thickness (slightly thicker) than the Prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
More Samsung Exynos 5250 Details Leak; Packs Next GenMaliT604 MP4 GPU

March 20, 2012, By Sanjeev Ramachandran

We have got a peek into the chip secrets of Sammy’s house with a leaked slide finding the missing gaps about the details of the upcoming chip from Samsung – the Exynos 5250.

The crux of the matter hints that the new processor chip will be mated with a next generation T604 Mali GPU.

The Mali T604 chip, as per leaked info stands higher than the already faster Mali-400 chip on Galaxy S II. That means the processor chip will bring out hyper fast experience to users when it comes as part of any device. In short, Samsung is keeping more in the store than what they have showed off so far.

Summing up information from all the available sources, it is understood that the Exynos 5250 will be an A15 core chip with an ability to run up to 2 GHz. It will be powerful enough to move heaven and earth with its dual CPU cores and the four GPU cores of the ARM Mali T-604 MP4 GPU.

The Mali GPU will be top notch than many rivals in the current market with a wider 12, 8 GBps and 2.1 gigapixels memory bandwidth.

The leaked info also elaborates on the 32 nanometre flawless manufacturing process which makes the chip high-quality.

Destined to start shipping in the spring, the 5250 constitutes a part of the larger Exynos 5 Dual line. The chip is expected to be part of the highly rumoured Galaxy Tab 11.6 or the upgrade of the current Samsung Galaxy S II.

However, it is felt that unless Samsung comes out with a suitable battery technology, we will not be seeing the maximum power of this chip combination in a Smartphone device in near future.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Seriously where are you getting your info? Or is this simply your own conclusion or wishful thinking? If you have any info/article on this... I would love to read it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
I am continually oscillating between excitement and disappointment.

I really ought to unsubscribe from this thread! I ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
In my opinion, half the fun is the anticipation. The other half is the endless elaboration over spec sheets and scouring the net for rumours of the next great thing. The device itself landing on the doorstep is just a bonus:D

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Spaceworld wrote on facebook that the presale would be closed once the first 15 tablets were sold. On their website, the new date now is June 26. That's almost a whole month later!! It'll be interesting to see what happens come the end of the month. I'm realisticly pessimistic, but cautiously optimistic.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
At the beginning of the year I had a pre-order in with Clove.co.uk for a Prime but had to cancel with a view to re-ordering after a couple of months. In the end Clove never did stock the Prime and I'd made the decision to hold out for the Infinity.

This week I fired off an email to Clove asking what their intentions are for the Infinity. As is always the case with Clove Customer Services I received a response very quickly - however it didn't contain the news I was hoping for... though they do intend to stock the Infinity they too have had no information from Asus but are currently not expecting stock until August, or September even :eek:

That is truely miserable news and for me explains why we've had no info to date from Asus UK.

I think that my course of action will be to see if the Infinity is indeed released in other markets earlier and watch for feedback and reports from users in those markets before deciding whether to import one (which I do quite a lot of) or wait it out.

On the other hand it may be indicative that Asus are negotiating another stupid "exclusive" like they've done with the TF300 and the Dixons Group.
[Asus Transformer TF700] borchgrevink:
Nope, not as far as I can see..
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
Will be very interresting to see if they manage to ship 15 out by the 28th. That would be awsome and if it turns out to be true im gonna bang my head in the wall for being a cheap bastard going for dustin.no since they are a little cheaper...
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
This speculation is torture, I want dates! I may just keep my tf300t, I have to say it has way exceeded any expectations I had, and am really liking it....but full hd resolution....so torn....:(
[Asus Transformer TF700] ronaldheld:
I would settle for a firm date. Why the secrecy, just release the dates by region.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jdor:
ASUS TF700 Infinity Tablet Gets July Launch

ASUS TF700 tablet might be known by more people as the Transformer Pad Infinity.

Apparently, we now know when the company is going to start shipping this thing, and it won't be as soon as we'd hoped.

After seeing the FCC filing just hours ago, we thought it wouldn't be more than a week or two before the official release.

Alas, the ASUS Australia Facebook page mentioned July, so more waiting awaits.

“Thanks for your interest, TF700 is expected to arrive around July time frame, we’ll keep everyone update when more information becomes available, stay tuned.”

The TF700 will have a display with a native resolution of 1,920 x 1,200 pixels at 224ppi. In other words, that Tegra 3 chip will be able to work at its best even without having to plug a TV into the Android 4.0 slate's video port.

Source: http://news.softpedia.com/news/ASUS-TF700-Infinity-Tablet-Gets-July-Launch-271281.shtml
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Yes, it's been popping up in Google today, but it's meant to be true only for Australia... so no reason to suspect a later EU release than June!
[Asus Transformer TF700] blueshirt89:
Hey, so I have been following this thread for quite awhile, and as one of the many Americans who are waiting anxiously for the tf700t to be released, I was wondering if any of you from the US have preordered from any of these international online stores? I looked at the one site, I believe spaceworld.no, and it didn't appear I could get it shipped to the US.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Evergreen74:
Here in Spain, Asus has already confirmed that the Infinity will be available from july...

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[Asus Transformer TF700] XabiX666:
it's been very disappointing from Asus not to inform their customers.

People are desperately waiting with no news.

I have been waiting since the MWC and avoiding to stop by an Apple store but to say the truth Asus will gain to communicate better on availabilities and why not allow shop to take pre-orders.

I really hope we will get them mid-June as planned. I hope their tablet will be well QA and that the quality will be there otherwise many people will never buy anything back from them.

Usually things get release 1st in the US etc.. Strange that EU is 1st this time, hopefully it's not to leverage a flapping entrance (as some people where saying some pages ago).
[Asus Transformer TF700] asdasd89:
Source?
[Asus Transformer TF700] XabiX666:
Does anyone have a good link for a comparison between the TF700T and the A700?

At least the Acer is in pre orders and the price is "much" lower:

http://www.topachat.com/pages/detai..._ref_est_in10060221_puis_origine_est_aff.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] snyph3r:
ACER communicated in their facebook that A700 will be shipped June 11-17, I may get this instead, as much as I want to get the Infinity I just cant wait anymore. I'm afraid that the money I saved may get used for something else. If Asus will get shipped around the same time, then i might wait a bit... but July -Aug in US? Acer wins...