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[Nokia Lumia 800] mikerpalmer:
I downloaded the 1600.2487.8107.12070 firmware and compared it to another phone I have running the older firmware. Whitebalance (picture quality) is much better, there is more bass in the music (same volume) and the battery drain seems to be cut in 1/2 at idle (as shown by the diagnostic tool).
[Nokia Lumia 800] cirian75:
give me tethering and I'll have one with in 24hrs
[Nokia Lumia 800] danisoufi:
i squezed 4.5 days (on edge) out of the battery and i use purity monster in-ear earphones and listen to trance, the highs and lows are crystal clear, like Nokia always promisses. i can't complain much about the bass but i'm waiting desperatly to check out the latest firmware. :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] magic55:
I can compare L800 to iP4S and N9. MS should work harder to improve battery life.
[Nokia Lumia 800] uiqjirka:
Other available product codes for the new firmware 12070

059L975 India Black

059M144 India Cyan

059M145 India Magenta

059N1N1 India White
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ricehead:
Made by me :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQq_xxfv56k
[Nokia Lumia 800] mechmouni:
How does the camera compare to the 4S or the Titan?
[Nokia Lumia 800] mowking:
Hi,

I also noticed another bug with this update.

I often use the Airplane Mode and when I deactivate it, the phone doesn't ask for the PIN Code anymore..

Do you, guys also have it ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
It's always been touch & go for mine asking for PIN after airplane mode anyway.
[Nokia Lumia 800] pexer-abc:
That's exactly why You do a backup before You Up/downgrade... :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Indeed, but I hadn't noticed the volume bug directly. Now I noticed it, but I've got new SMS-messages that are not in my backup. That was the point I made ;)
[Nokia Lumia 800] kharma45:
Cheers for the info, appreciated!
[Nokia Lumia 800] pexer-abc:
:D

Of course, You're correct in that.

Is there perhaps a chance to downgrade using the cab sender method preserving changes...?

I downgraded using the recovery method this time....

But I've successfully tried backup/restore using the Cab Sender, but only from 11501->11501.
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
I have never tried to use CAB-sender to go down. You can give it a try, if you can find a 11501 CAB somewhere :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] mowking:
Well, for me Pin code after airplane mode always worked on 11501, and never appeared on 12070.

That, added to the very annoying sound bug made be downgrading to 11501 via zune (I didn't press the B option but the S one on the Cab installation :( )
[Nokia Lumia 800] Feenik:
Tired of waiting for new FW to arrive to EU so i upgraded with the one available for Asia. After an update, battery life last from 24h to 48h and CAM is a bit better than before
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
guys, i'm trying to flash the finland rom to my lumia but nokia care suite 5.0 says my device is not supported...any advice?
[Nokia Lumia 800] maxi14:
did you rename the fw files using your product code? there are 3 files where you have to replace it.
[Nokia Lumia 800] sirfergy:
Does anyone know when they'll start releasing this for RM-819 models?
[Nokia Lumia 800] ChrisKringel:
That's either up to your carrier or to Nokias release schedule.

About the release in Germany: I asked in the german Support Forum and the Nokia staff said, that the update has not been offically released in germany. This could take up to 4 more weeks.
[Nokia Lumia 800] sirfergy:
Hmm... mine is unbranded, so I guess it's up to Nokia.
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
i didn't get that far, the care suite says my device is not supported but sees it as rm801...is there a link to a tutorial please?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boss_Cuco:
Mine is branded -T-Mobile DE- hope it gets updated sooner than in 4 weeks... one more month and there might be already another update rolling out from nokia :(

EDIT: Lumia 800 Firmware Update 1600.2487.8107.12070 - Windows Phone - Forum Service

With googletranslator seems that they have no idea of the release date...

Can someone who speaks german confirm this?
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
anyone? a tutorial for refurbishing a nokia lumia 800 please....
[Nokia Lumia 800] soundstorm17:
If I update my phone to 12070 firmware with cab sender will I get the future o/s and fw updates? Or when a new update will come I should restore my phone in order to get the tango update for example...? (sorry for my english)
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Using the CAB-sender method, you actually simulate an update trough Zune, so it won't notice the difference for future updates. You should get any future update. But you should take care with OS updates! If an OS update comes with new or languages you should make sure you update ALL your languages as well. For a firmware update, you shouldn't mind :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] maxi14:
@boss_cuco: t-mobile germany says they are testing a new firmware, but didnt give their ok yet
[Nokia Lumia 800] soundstorm17:
Hi, What's the difference between this two cab. files?

Nokia Lumia 800 update version 1600.2487.8107.12070 (Singapore update - thanks to zjw831 and xboxmod)

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._33f6e72c7916dcdfca7f8d2c8a89fb00e49b2dbf.cab

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._4395089006e8ea60eab71352e0bb082bcc3fb789.cab
[Nokia Lumia 800] soundstorm17:
Hi, What's the difference between this two cab. files?

Nokia Lumia 800 update version 1600.2487.8107.12070 (Singapore update - thanks to zjw831 and xboxmod)

http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...00e49b2dbf.cab

http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2bcc3fb789.cab
[Nokia Lumia 800] MickyMax:
The content of the two cab is the same.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dankspain:
Ok it's now official. Here are the dates for the update and the state of the update and your carrier.

It doesn't allow me to post it, so go to nokia conversations . com and into latest, there you have all of the info needed.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boss_Cuco:
Firmware Rollout Status
[Nokia Lumia 800] donpromillo:
hi,

The guy from T-com declared that they're testing an update, but he doesn't know, if it's the new Nokia firmware 12070. He also doesn't know a date they'll release it. It depends on the ongoing tests. If these tests successfully finish, they'll release it, if not, then not.

Regards

Donpromillo
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
I'm not sure if the question was asked before but i flashed my TIM lumia 800 with the Finland Country Variant and my question is, i will be able to receive updates via Zune in the future right? i don;t have to always flash my lumia, right?

thanks...
[Nokia Lumia 800] sHaHiN786:
It's fine, only if you mess up the OS update, this can happen, it doesn't effect the firmware updates though. Keep a back up on Zune, so for warrant sake when 12070 officially lands in your carrier/region, you can roll back to your old firmware and update via Zune. ;)
[Nokia Lumia 800] revelthedog:
Seems to be t-mobile / orange holding things up in the UK

Orange	Lumia 800	059L7C6	Waiting for approval

Orange	Lumia 800	059M745	Waiting for approval

T-Mobile	Lumia 800	059L7H0	Waiting for approval

T-Mobile	Lumia 800	059M7B5	Waiting for approval

everyone else in the UK has been approved so far : )

Just a matter of time i guess..
[Nokia Lumia 800] hawc1506:
I have an unlocked RM-819 in the US and I just got the 12070 update from Zune.

EDIT: And it comes with the volume-jump bug. Anyone found a workaround that doesn't require you to set the volume to 14?

EDIT 2: Did some searching and it looks like many of you have this as well. For me, the volume error only happens for level 7 and below. I'm not sure why the threshold is different for everyone. I've heard 6, 8, 12, and 14.

I can replicate the bug by setting the volume below 7 and plugging my phone in. The "ring" when I connect the phone should be at full volume under the threshold, but if you go one notch above the threshold, it should sound quieter. Perhaps some of you who upgraded to 12070 can connect your phone to the charger and see if you can replicate the issue.
[Nokia Lumia 800] mlaidlaw:
My Lumia 800 Cyan is UK product code 059M539, got it through Phones4U on Orange UK contract, but despite the Nokia page saying "update available" there is still no update available on Zune!

OPERATOR	DEVICE	PRODUCT CODE	STATUS

Country Variant	Lumia 800	059M539	Update available
[Nokia Lumia 800] mdsharpe:
I just checked and it seems 7 and below is the threshold for mine too.

Everyone I know who has upgraded to 12070 is getting the volume bugs. I'm extremely disappointed, and astonished that Nokia have rolled these bugs out to everyone.
[Nokia Lumia 800] mlaidlaw:
Info from Nokia Europe

Just noticed the FAQ on Nokia Europe http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/nokia-lumia-800-software-update
[Nokia Lumia 800] -obiwan-:
At least they are aware of it now. However, it does not help that the the ring tone volume adjusts itself automatically after the first 2 seconds to normal level. If you once got a incoming call with in-ear headphones you know that 2 seconds are way too much. I guess I looked like the smilie :eek: when this happens first to me.
[Nokia Lumia 800] mdsharpe:
Glad they've acknowledged it, but it's still an awful bug. I am surprised it got through QA at all.
[Nokia Lumia 800] hawc1506:
I'm surprised it made it past QA as well. But I'm speculating that the way they tested 12070 may have been under different circumstances. Maybe it isn't a bug in the update itself, but in the update process that created this problem. Perhaps Nokia tested the software on a completely clean phone that did not have a previous build on it.

I'm saying that because even after doing a hard reset and reverting back to a previous build, and doing a recovery, the volume bug is still there.

So it may not actually be the build itself, but something in the update process that manipulated the volume controller in the original pre-update build.

Thoughts?
[Nokia Lumia 800] mdsharpe:
Good point - especially the fact that after rolling back the firmware the bug is still there. That suggests that it is something else that breaks when you update, which is independent of the firmware.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dankspain:
Got it last night, update showed up after plugging my phone to the pc. Now the drainage hovers around 60-70 instead of 230 on 3g so it is awesome... let's see the real perfomance now with a full day of usage.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
People first got the build via Nokia Care Suite, this is a clean install rather than an update, and that's when the bug was discovered.
[Nokia Lumia 800] goldfinch711:
Got this update two weeks ago, but when using 3G there's still a very high battery drain (14 to 24 hours battery life). If using the phone with E the battery life is two to three days.

I've already restored factory defaults, but nothing changed. Why do some people have great battery life with 3G and other ones only when they switch to E?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boss_Cuco:
Have you tried doing a Hard Reset?

Press power button for 10s and then turn it on again.

Not sure if it helps...
[Nokia Lumia 800] goldfinch711:
So, is there a difference between factory defaults and a hard reset? I'll give it a try and check if it solves the problem.
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
It's the same.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Marvin_S:
This is true, the battery drainage on (a bad) 3G connection is still subpar. I have confirmed this with multiple Lumia's against the Samsung Omnia.

I seem to get about 16~18 hours on moderate usage with 4/5 bar 3G. But my friend who has mostly bad 3G gets about 12 hours max. The samsung easily lasts 20 hours or more with equal usage, while the Lumia needs a refuel before going a night out. That said with good 3G signal the batterylife is certainly bareable for me.

Obviously there are still some performance issues with the Nokia Lumia 800's radio certainly noticable with bad 3G reception where it drains like crazy.
[Nokia Lumia 800] iritek:
Yes, got the same problem on my 800. I found also that after the update something messed up with the Wifi and airplane mode switches since during the day the phone doesn't reconnect to the Wifi network or, worse, it looses the GSM connection completely (you can't send SMS, make calls neither receive them, also data connection doesn't work). i suspect that the loss of connection problems are related in some way to the Wifi and Airplane mode switches.

Problems i found that might be related to the Airplane mode / Wifi switches :

- PIN no more asked after resuming from airplane mode

- Wi-Fi : grayed icon even if known network is available (power off needed to solve)

- SMS/Data/GSM not available : even if the signal icon showed 3G an 2 signal bars the phone was disconnected from the GSM network, people were unable to reach me (calls, sms) or i was unable to make a call. Often happened that some minutes after i sent an SMS the phone said "unable to send" or something like that with a system SMS, in that case i found i couldn't be able to even make a call. Power off solved the problem but seems like it happens again after some Wifi/airplane mode switching.

- Heat! the phone overheat frequently
[Nokia Lumia 800] jhughesy:
Having compared with the 4S I would say Lumia 800 is better. Had a number of light situations 4S wouldn't get a good pic and the Lumia got one. I haven't tried with this new update yet though.
[Nokia Lumia 800] BlitterTwisted:
I'm not sure about that. My wife has the 4S and it has a spectacular camera, I very much doubt the Lumia can do better.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jhughesy:
Having experienced both together first hand and at same moment for comparison it was pretty clear.

What is your experience with both cameras which makes you doubt the Lumia can do better?
[Nokia Lumia 800] mechmouni:
I think I should sligtly rephrase my question. I love the camera performance of the Lumia but for that slight green tinge in the photos and a heavy green tinge for shots in the dark.. Is that gone?

If they are gone then the camera is easily comparable to the 4S ...
[Nokia Lumia 800] daloz:
How do you manually download and install the firmware?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Seraphic:
I have both the 4S and the Lumia. I hate to say it because I love the Lumia but the 4S camera is much better in every situation except when using the flash.
[Nokia Lumia 800] BlitterTwisted:
To me it's obvious just from looking at the screen when pointing it at anything. The the way the 4S handles light is amazing e.g. in the house in the evenings. I think it's pretty much the best phone camera out there except for that insane new Nokia 41MP beast!

The Lumia is much better than standard Android crap though.
[Nokia Lumia 800] xsacha:
The Lumia 800 and the N9 currently have the worst cameras that Nokia sells.

Judging by resolution charts, the 4S beats them cleanly. The E7, X7, E6 and such EDoF cameras even seem to perform better.

The N8 makes the 4S camera look like a toy though.
[Nokia Lumia 800] aslan93:
100% agree. I have both too, iPhone 4s is probably the best phone camera out there.. Overall even better than n8 and every other top smartphone that I tested it against. Although lumia is top class when taking a portrait at night with the flash, its really powerful for led and spreads out over the image very well. Plus ease of use and convenience I'd say windows phone has the best camera app. I have plenty of reasons for that :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] Bora777:
I received the 1600.2487.8107.12070 update via Zune today. Anyone else got it officially?

I've only had it for like half an hour and I haven't noticed much besides the improved sound quality and the capacitive buttons are now always lit.

Haven't tested the battery life yet though.
[Nokia Lumia 800] mutabor:
I'm installing the new update via Zune. Singapore based phone here.
[Nokia Lumia 800] mechmouni:
that is awesome.. i got the disgusting 11500...
[Nokia Lumia 800] mathijs727:
Yep, getting a update here (Netherlands) too, seems like its a worldwide release.

EDIT: seems like i got the 11500 update :(
[Nokia Lumia 800] napster2k11:
I am just reflashint my TMO firmware and will report if there is a 12070 update
[Nokia Lumia 800] nagesh_boppana:
Just got mine

I just got mine(India) through Zune :-)
[Nokia Lumia 800] napster2k11:
still no update for T-Mobile rom, reflashing back to India 12070 now :(

---------- Post added at 02:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:27 PM ----------

plus I like the unbranded rom as you get the Nokia Blue theme and not the pants pink T-Mobile one :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
anyone tried updating using the 'Zune Trick' with pulling out ethernet/turning off wifi etc?
[Nokia Lumia 800] nagesh_boppana:
music rocks now

After the update(India), music really rocks:D. I do not see any camera modes:(
[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
Yup.. didn't work. (TMo USA)
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
The Zune-trick doesn't work for any firmware... I only succeeded using it for OS-updates...
[Nokia Lumia 800] 1orka:
I compared indoors pictures from Lumia 800 to Iphone 4s (my nephew got one for himself recently). And yes, Iphone just kills it. I read that Iphone has better camera, but what i saw was almost like night and day. It's brighter, sharper, has natural colors and has less noise.

i think it's h/w issue, Lumia most likely has smaller sensor, and it surely can't be fixed with simple s/w update.

Also, from what i've read, OTOT Iphone 4/4s sensor is backlit CMOS (made by Sony?), whereas Nokia use conventional CMOS, backlit cmos captures more light=better quality.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
It worked for the previous firmware version.. (Europe)

---------- Post added at 07:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:39 PM ----------

As soon as someone from Europe get's the update, i'll try the trick and let you know if it worked..
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Actually I already have installed the Singapore 12070 update (via CAB sender method). Worked perfectly and I don't have to wait for ages. I got the 11500 update only yesterday officially via Zune! Come on that's way too long!
[Nokia Lumia 800] scottygb2k:
Does anyone know if this update fixes the Autofocus issue? Drives me crazy trying to record a video only to find the dam thing wont focus until about 30 seconds into the video.
[Nokia Lumia 800] ombadboy:
Anything different from Singapore vs Europe, etc? Languages? etc.. ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Mine is still talking Dutch to me :) The Diagnostics app even still shows full capacity :) Haven't had the time to go on to the details though :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] aslan93:
Guys what we need to do is to have someone who is able to update using official method through zune, like someone from singapore where its available. Someone should install the diagnostics app on the old firmware BEFORE updating and then after update see whether it displays the current discharge as 150mah like before or 80 like i have on mine(new 12070 fw) its important to see whether nokia just tweaked the diag app to show less or whether it actually halved. I cant do that because mine isnt available right now and if you flash it yourself (not through zune) all apps get deleted.. so have to install the new diag app as well. could someone on the old fw in singapore try this please.

Thanks
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
You can test it yourself! :) If you use this method to update to 12070, your apps won't be deleted. It's the same as updating with Zune. I just updated to 12070 myself. The update is unbranded, so it will work on your Nokia.

Good luck!

Heathcliff74
[Nokia Lumia 800] xotikstudio:
Should I update my frimwar to 12070 (Singapore Version) if i ive in the USA?

I want to update via Singapore update 12070. Should I update if my Nokia is OEM factory phone and i live in the USA? Does this update brand the Phone? please send pics or video of startup of Nokia 800. I am just wondering if it brands the Nokia as a Singapore phone?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
Dude! Can't you read, or do you just not believe me? I already wrote here twice that the update is not branded. I even pasted details from the update here! I'm not going to make a video for you to prove it! Update it and get over it!

Good luck :p

Heathcliff74
[Nokia Lumia 800] magic55:
So, we are still waiting in EU for Nokia's update but we see that Asias is the first one. cong :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] xotikstudio:
OKAY!........ You dont have to be so darn rude. It was confusing on how it was explained. but again thanks.......
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
Ehmmm.. NO! Not waiting! Updating!! Read my post.. Update.. Done!
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
I don't think I was rude. I just said you get over it, because you shouldn't need a vid to have prove when I already gave you confirmation. That's it. I thought the smiley made that clear.. Anyway, good luck with the update.

Heathcliff74
[Nokia Lumia 800] xotikstudio:
Thanks

:) k Thanks. By the way im updating right now. hope all is good. Thanks for your help. appreciate it. :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] Briefcase:
Hi HeathCliff,

Don't we have to worry about walshing our phones by manually applying this update? Or are language cabs only of importance with OS updates?
[Nokia Lumia 800] svarog84:
Can I flash my branded phone via CAB method? Will it still be branded or unbranded if i can?
[Nokia Lumia 800] uryu_ishida:
i'm completely new to wp7. how does one go about updating their phone through the cab method? Any tutorials out there?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Bora777:
I can't remember what the discharge on my phone was on the old firmware, but right now it's hovering around 70+ mA. According to fellow Singapore users, it used to be around 150 mA so there you go.

For those interested in more feedback on the officially updated firmware, check out this Singaporean forum. :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] powersquad:
Can someone who owns the Lumia 800 and is running it with the latest firmware/update tell me when their phone is fully charges, how many hours remaining does the battery saver mode state?

Telecom here have just launched the lumia 800 with the latest 12070 firmware installed, and on 1st day I only got 8 hours use with work email, hotmail, twitter, facebook set to push.

now I have the same setup and infact more apps running in the background on the htc titan and I get solid 2 days.
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
The discharge rate has indeed halved. What I noticed is that the full capacity went down from 1450 to 1350 before to after the full night of charging...
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
Walshing can indeed only happen with OS updates, because they have separate language packs.

Hmmm. Good question. I'm not sure. You can try it. If it doesn't work it will simply get rejected and you will not have the update. No problem. I'm also not sure if this will unbrand your phone, but I think it will in fact unbrand it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1306415

Users report that discharge is indeed much slower. Apps are not running in the background. They are tombstoned. There are only backgroundtasks for updating live-tiles and syncing mail.

Ciao,

Heathcliff74
[Nokia Lumia 800] VoodooKing:
I believe that if you update your phone, it will still retain the same config. It will not change your phone from branded to unbranded or vice versa.

When you mention branded, you are talking about the operator logo on the booting screen and specific operator settings??

When you apply the update, it will still remain branded. To complete unbrand a phone, you will need to flash an unbranded ROM (open market ROM)

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Doesnt the Titan have a bigger battery?
[Nokia Lumia 800] svarog84:
Thanks for replying. My phone just have operator logo and a few apps but i would like to remove it. It is SIM unlocked. Guess I will have to wait a little bit more. As I understood this method, unbranding is possible only when doing update so i don't want to wait for next to do so.

I have one more question, if i unbrand phone, will it be unbranded for good? I am asking this because using this method i don't change file names in the FW files, and i am worried that in some future zune will recognize original file names andupdate branding will return
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
Updated via Cab Sender, first time I've done it and it was painless. Will be using that again no doubt :D

Cheers TopCat ;)