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[Asus Transformer TF700] rwniel:
There was this thread in which a number of size micro SD and SD card have been tested. I asked Asus about the 32GB maximum capacity in their listing and they stated that it was given because this was the largest size they had personally tested at the time. But I would be very surprised if the Infinity wasn't able to take the same 64GB micro SD card (plus larger SD card capacities in the keyboard dock).

Robert
[Asus Transformer TF700] carolek:
Newbie here. What is trolling?

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Someone on YouTube did a video on unboxing the Infinity. Since I'm a junior member I can't post the url but the title is:

"ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity WiFi-only hands-on"
[Asus Transformer TF700] cubatista92:
I have added google alerts for anything about this tab, and another with the words amazon nd pre-order... <-- that is the definition of desperate.
[Asus Transformer TF700] adit9989:
I tested an SDXC 64GB card (original exFAT) in my friend's Transformer Prime and it works. I know that most devices could use SDXC but you needed to reformat as Android does not come with exFAT drivers (the manufacturer is required to add this as there are royalty's involved) but I wanted to be sure it can read natively SDXC formated with exFAT and it does.

I want to be able to take a card from my camera and pop it up in the tablet (my camera will not read NTFS and not sure if it will accept SDXC formated as FAT32 also and if it does and you reformat the card in camera it will get back to exFAT as this is the satndard for SDXC cards) so I had a strict requirement that it must have SDXC support without any reformat.

I'm sure Infinity will have it also as most new tablets (Acer, Toshiba have SDXC support in specs officialy).

By the way I also tried a clip from camera, AVCHD 2.0 1080p60 28 Mb/s with BS player and it works well (I think BS uses hardware acceleration). Again, I don't think will be a problem with Infinity if the previous model can do this.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
It's not funny, it's tragic. Why hasn't Samsung used this screen (or it's 16X9 equivalent) themselves yet? One of the mysteries that contributes to the lackluster success of Android tablets.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
That's amazing but unfortunately the amazon appstore isn't available in Canada. Even the google store isn't complete (it doesn't have music). So I'll have to choose one "office" app and pay for it.

Thanks safarigirl and Jotokun. So far I'm leaning towards office suite pro because it sounds like the superior app. However is the fact that HD isn't in the title something I should worry about? Is it meant for cell phones?

Also, the polaris office that comes with the TF300 isn't too bad. It just lacks the abylity so sync automatically with google drive or dropbox. You have to manually download and upload to google drive and it blows.

Thanks s300pmu1. You make a good point but now that I spent a couple days with the TF300, I know that the TF700 has the potential of satisfying my needs. I do A LOT of excel at work but I only need basic spreadsheets when I'm on the go.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
unlocking your infinity Will void warranty. This is a known for all new asus tablets. plus no more ota updates.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
I hope Asus is quick with updates then!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] seeknom:
Have you tried this one? You require connectivity to use it, so it might not be what you're looking for (but you do mention wanting an app that syncs with google drive or dropbox, so that would indicate connectivity when doing work):

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5jbG91ZG9uLmNsaWVudCJd
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
quite a few tablets (and phones) list the device as supporting up to 32gb. But people (myself included) are currently using 64gb cards in their devices. I know the samsung galaxy tab 2, Transformer Prime, Acer Iconia and Xoom all support them.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Thank you, I just ordered SanDisk Ultra Class 10 microSDXC Ultra 64GB from Amazon.de.

However, I am a bit worried. They state that it is Class 10 with 30Mb/sec write speed, but when I google for modelnumber SDSDQU-064G-U46A and ASIN B007JTKM30 I sometimes see that it is only Class 6!

Am I rightfully worried or should this still be a class 10?

EDIT: the link is http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-Ultra-...KM30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340381238&sr=8-1
[Asus Transformer TF700] safarigirl:
Drat, sorry to hear you don't have access to amazon apps up north. OfficeSuite Pro 6 (pdf & hd) is the full version. There is a second option but it is only the trial.

I tested polaris office briefly and did not like it. But I do a lot of work in MS office programs so the portable app needs to be user friendly and able to work on/view complex documents. Just depends on your needs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
This looks sweet but I won't have a connection. I want to be able to modify files while I commute and have them sync as soon as I have a connection so I can continue the work on a pc.

Thanks! So that's what I'll go for. It's about $15.
[Asus Transformer TF700] suunnittelija:
Oh yes, my order delivery date has changed from 12th of July to 29th of June. I really hope that deliveries starts soon in Finland :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>Folks who claim the iPad's screen is so much better than the Infinity... The 4x3 aspect ratio really should be considered.

I do. The 4:3 aspect is better. Not for videos, but everything else. It's also more versatile, as portrait mode is more functional. 16:9 is mainly limited to landscape use. There's a reason why most bound books have 4:3 form--it balances better in your hand.

The good thing with Android is that it comes in a variety of shapes. 16:10 is the vogue, but there are a few 4:3 tabs. I'm keeping an eye on the Lenovo S2109, which is a "value" 4:3 tab. It's $300 now, but should be close to $200 by fall. It'll be a good companion to the $200 Nexus tab.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
Go with the class 6. Inside the device, you wont notice a difference. If you really want the class 10, buy it from the sandisk site. That way you know its real.
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
Swapping sd's is also hard to imagine.

No, not lots of money. I wish. I'm disabled and use distraction (reading, movies) to keep my mind off pain.

I have a 2T NAS drive at home, using APnP stream, and can safely (I hope) get to it via SSH from the internet via router port forwarding. I just don't know about bandwidth and, well, ToS with my ISP when I'm away.

Having my reading material and my best movies on my person seems good to me. SanDisk 32GB microSDHC is $20 & free ship on Amazon. But spending $200 for 10 to get a mere 320gb doesn't seem a value with I can get a 750 GB USB 3.0 7200RPM HD for about $100. That's where I'm at..

And you're right about swapping SD's. I'm having enough difficulty keeping directories and files organized without the inconvenience and slow transfer speed of SD's.

I remember Neo in the first Matrix movie, at the very beginning, looking through a small box of what looked like memory media to give one to the "rabbit girl" at the girl.

Any other advice would be appreciated. But maybe I'm off topic. You already answered my questions here.

Spinning HD requires too much power and would kill battery life.

SSD too expensive.

SD also expensive; also slow and a pain to manage.

NAS may have problem with bandwidth, security, and IPS terms of service.

Thank you for the comments.

Edro
[Asus Transformer TF700] tixed:
Try this one

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttxapps.dropsync

Been using Pro variant for quite some time - it's a good app.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I tend to agree. For everything other than video--ebook reading, Web pages, RSS reading, Office doc editing, note taking, etc.--4:3 really does work better. For me, that's particularly true in landscape--I can see deeper into a Web page, for example. Really, in general I feel the same as when notebook makers started switching to 16:9. I thought, what, is video really what I want my notebook optimized for? And I thought this as I cursed them for losing about a third of a written page...

On a different note, but I think you'll appreciate it: I'd love to start a campaign to try to pressure Android tablet makers to get better screens. I'd assume that they already want to do that, but I'm just not seeing it. But, so many folks here and elsewhere seem too busy being defensive about Android than seeing that some things need to improve if it's going to be successful.

I posted some images earlier in this thread showing how text on the iPad compares to text on the TF700. To my eyes, the difference is dramatic. Text on the iPad looks like something in a quality printed magazine, while text on the TF700 still looks pixellated to me. Funny thing is, I'm not sure that's entirely the screen--it seems to me like ICS does a relatively poor job of rendering text.

But what was the response to my post? Crickets. Not even a bunch of "Hey, those aren't that much better!" responses, which would be bunk except at least they'd be responses. From the lack of response, I get the impression some folks just don't want to admit the iPad's screens is measurably, demonstrably, and objectively better, which means they'll go on buying today's pretty much crap Android tablet screens without complaint.

Oh well, sorry, rant over. I'm done. If anyone wants to really see what I'm talking about, take whatever Android tablet you want to a retailer that has the iPad, and compare them side-by-side. You'll find that colors are deep and pleasant, contrast is excellent, and text is as crisp as a magazine. It's a whole different experience, and we Android users deserve something as good.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
@edrodata

I'd suggest the Seagate GoFlex Satellite HDD, which has 500GB and 7hr battery life for $160 street. Although for your situation, battery life shouldn't be a concern, because AC outlets should be available.

http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/goflex-satellite/
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
Wow, thanks! Looks amazing. Isn't it weird that google drive doesn't do that?
[Asus Transformer TF700] bleclair:
Agreed! I'm no fanboy of either, but prefer Android due to its tweakability, expandability (hdmi, microsd, etc) and variety of programs (DosBox, ScummVM) but there is no comparison to the iPad 3 screen.

I was looking through travel photos and I was just staring at the screen. They look better than I've ever seen them because that screen is better than anything I've ever had. That includes the Acer a700 I had for a day before I shipped it back to Amazon due to a defect under the screen. Now don't get me wrong! The Acer screen looked very, very nice but no comparison to the iPad 3.

Jelly Bean on a iPad 3 quality screen... That's what I want! :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
I started this thread in February as a former disappointed Prime owner.

I am no longer interested in the Infinity. My choice now is the Transformer Book. For now...
[Asus Transformer TF700] bleclair:
Asus is hilarious. They get you wanting something that isn't out before the other thing you wanted is even released. ;-)
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
Agreed, you'll likely find that a Class 10 card is faster than the I/O capabilities of the tablet, and even if it isn't then it's unlikely you'll notice the actual difference in speed.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Hemidroids:
Windows? No thanks, gotta be android.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sketcherstud:
I completely agree that the screen on the iPad3 is far better than the Infinity, in terms of clarity and precise text/images. To me, however, the single positive aspect of the iPad3 (screen) doesn't outweigh the many positives of the Infinity (customizability, data ports, the fact that I don't have to use itunes, expandable memory, keyboard with built-in battery, etc...).

Would I like the Infinity to have a better screen? Yes! Do I wish my car came with a better stock sound system? Yes! But that doesn't mean I won't buy either one.

I think the Infinity is going to be one of the best tablets available when it finally is released, which is why I'm going to buy one. It's really up to each person if they think the positives outweigh any perceived negatives.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
The iPad does look better in the macro shots, yes. But that doesn't necessarily reflect how they appear in real life. I'd rather see it in person than trust shot taken much closer than I'd hold the device in regular use. For all we know the extra DPI on the iPad may fall into the category of diminishing returns.
[Asus Transformer TF700] bleclair:
Agreed! Love those features on Android, but iOS has its advantages also. Wish I could choose! Until then, I have one of each. :laugh:

You sound like me until I actually used one for a week or so, looked at photos, read a book, checked out a magazine. The iPad 3 screen kills even 1080p on Android. I'm not a fan of hyperbole, or an Apple fanboy but that screen is amazing.

That screen appears on an Android device and I think I would be able to let go of the iPad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>4:3 really does work better

I cried when my last 4:3 CRT was sent away to the glue factory...OK, not really, but my lower lip probably did quiver a bit.

>I'd love to start a campaign to try to pressure Android tablet makers to get better screens

It's tough, since Android's angle right now is low price, and that means "good enough" screens only. The only pressure vendors care about is their profit margin. Google needs to improve Android and make a better pitch for the high-end.

>To my eyes, the difference is dramatic. Text on the iPad looks like something in a quality printed magazine, while text on the TF700 still looks pixellated to me.

Since Android's rendering is density-independent, I think it's the rendering engine's job as much as the screen density to make text look better.

>But what was the response to my post? Crickets.

Yeah, people care more about videos than text. Funny thing is, on a 10", 1080p vids look no better than 720p. 1080p should be about better text.
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
I have nothing to back this up, but Apple is known for stuff like this: I believe the reason Samsung doesn't make it available on other devices is Apple is paying them a large sum of $ to make sure they don't.

Also, many, many thanks to Nivelheim for being so willing to share and provide the answers asked!

I think the one thing I'm waiting to hear about is the keypress on the dock. When looking at the Windows 8 surface, I think the typing experience would be significantly unpleasant, but I really need to try it out.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
Wynand32 dude, I agree with all you're saying, but you're a party-pooper (so am I, actually). It's an Infinity thread. Let folks have their fun.
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
4x3 aspect ratio on the iPad3 should be considered

I don't mind a good rant when it is useful. Yours are usually useful. Thank you.

The iPad, though I hate IoS, Apple propriety iTunes, lack of expansion, I still gotta admit that their hardware is still the gold standard in several ways.

I think that your basic complaint is valid. Manufacturers don't put as much into a device as Apple. It would cost more, but it would compete with Apple and gain more market share and thus more support.

In a way, though, Android really isn't competing with Apple based on the differences I mentioned above. Open OS, open marketplace, open expansion... That's what some users want. Others want the control that Apple promotes. Still, Android users want and should get better displays. I think the Infinity is the right direction and it will be my first tablet.

I'm sick and tired of portable devices that work for a few hours. I bought a phone that I don't need to charge but once or twice a week at most. I want this tablet to get at least one day of work out of it. (One day meaning 10 hours or so.)

As for the 4:3 v. 10:16, well, I haven't thought about that having no experience with a device this size. It will be an adjustment to my current 19" 4:3 setup that I now use, that's for sure. But I'm ready to dive in.

I can't think of any tablet selling or announced that interest me more than the Infinity. The proven support of ASUS, the detachable keyboard/battery life, and display resolution..there's really nothing out there like it in the Android market. Is there? I have no interest in Apple or Microsoft. The price of the Google Nexus is great but the size! Too small for me and my wife to cuddle in bed together and watch a romantic comedy or YouTube videos about gardening. But still small enough so I can watch the news or my own genre of video on my own without disturbing her.

Are my posts too long? When I get on a though I tend to ramble.

Edro
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
You're right. I'll shut up now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] brucewilsonpa:
PLEASE LET'S GET BACK TO INFINITY DISCUSSION. I have the Zenbook Prime UX31a and I'm very impressed by the Asus display -- had an iPad 3 for a week and though I liked the display couldn't stand the loss of flexibility..... but that's a personal thing -- so as I said above, PLEASE LET US GET BACK TO THE INFINITY
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
Wireless streaming storage for your tablet

I hadn't seen or heard of that! Excellent idea! Good value for the size!

Thank you!

Edro
[Asus Transformer TF700] 3oudreaux:
If your wanting the higher volume of storage the HDDs offer, Then it seems to me that one with a slower diskette speed would conserve battery life. Eg seagate go flex 5400 rpm
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Okay, so, now you opened a can of worms. What do you think of the UX31A? I'm THIS close to buying one...

PM me if you don't mind with your impressions, so I can, you know, not continue to derail this thread. :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
I'm considering the Infinity as our first pad - mainly to be used by my wife on her long trip to work. However, I am too considering waiting for w8 (not 8rt) tablets in hybrid form-factor.

Reasons:

- Nobody really knows when the Infinity will appear at a given market (less so regarding the apparently more efficient Krait version)

- The pseudo-stereo speakers are so no premium-quality, but the price is very high

- I strongly believe that for the price tag asked, build quality should be impeccable - which is also not the case with the transformer's permanent curse - the glass not fixed completely

- I/O issues, apparently still unresolved, which may cause small - but very annoying - lags in a device too expensive for such poor user experience.

- Apparently poor support - you could read about issues with serial number getting wiped after an RMA of a prime tablets, preventing them from using FOTA and unlocking the bootloader, and about the support's practical non-response to these claims.

- Limitations of Android as opposed to a full-scale real OS - W8. Being able to use the thing as a real notebook with real apps such as MS Office and PS and what not is a big turn-on, provided they make the device run at least 5-6 hrs without docking\recharge and it weighs under 700 grams. I still would very much like using Android on a phone, but a device for ~$1k (common price in Russia for such devices) should be able to do more.

So yes, I fully agree with the OP that Transformer Book or similar devices (I very much liked the Iconia W510) appear to be worth waiting for. Even if Asus screws up the release dates again, by that time there'll be some w8 pads to choose from from the competitors.

I am sorry for OT, however, I'mn supporting th OP here AND there's not much else to discuss, given ASUS's policy of total news blackout.

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It's most likely the software responsible for font-rendering which is guilty here.

E.g. if you install gdipp on a windows PC, which replaces cleartype rendering, you'll be hard-pressed to tell the difference between the rendering of text compared to Mac. Everything's so much smoother and neater. Same here, though something tells me neither google nor asus give a crap.

Sorry, shutting up as well, nuff said. However, it's either fill the thread with speculations or go OT or do nothing - no real news so far, thanks to Asus.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gingi999:
I think that's what Microsoft did with surface. They set the bar for other manufacturers
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Hardly. How on earth is the Surface a viable competitor to the Infinity? The WinRT model doesnt have a high DPI screen, and the Win8 model will be priced much closer to an ultrabook. Not to mention Metro's closed off nature (and thus WinRT itself) makes it a non-starter for many people here on XDA. Unless the pricing winds up to be FAR more aggressive than what MS is suggesting at this point, all they did was add a kickstand. Awesome, not like Archos didn't do that years ago.

With regards to the keyboard cover thing... everyone seems to be going crazy over the idea, but has anyone actually tried to type on one? For all we know it could be just as bad as touchscreen typing. Reserve your judgement for once it hits the market, and if its good it'll only be a matter of time before Android tablet manufactures pick the concept up.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I think this one's easy to fix, as long as you're online. You can always use one of the cloud solutions (e.g., CloudOn). Those provide pretty much "stock" Office apps and access to your docs on Dropbox, etc.
[Asus Transformer TF700] nooktablet:
so what i've been reading in a half an hour in this thread is about SD card, Hard Drive, iPad, Microsoft Surface and apps?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Why not? It's going to be priced comparably to Infinity ($500 to $600 without the the KB). You also receive direct s/w support from MS & Office 15 built in for productivity......

Open community is great, but in terms of Android... those custom ROMs are created to extend or stabilize Android OS (or remove bloatware). Android OS itself doesn't offer anything amazing.....
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Not to mention any of the tablet optimized office suites for offline access. Not just office either, photo editing and software development can be done completely through an Android tablet as well. I'm sure there's software in existence to do other types of work too.

If you're asking why not, you clearly didnt read my post. I think I explained why not quite well. I'll give you built in office, but you can easily get an office suite on Android that works well enough. As far as my comment on being a more open OS, I'm not even talking about custom roms and the like. Look up Microsoft's sideloading policies for metro, I think you'll be surprised. I dont know about you, but I'm voting with my wallet against walled gardens.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
I have & you are simply dislodging WinRT Surface simply because it doesn't high DPI. If that is the case, I can make an argument that all Android tablets (including Infinity) isn't a viable competitor to new iPad either.

As for sideloading, I already know...

Plus, if you aren't a dev & etc... why are you so concerned with sideloading apps?? It isn't complete dictatorship like Apple with MS.... & with native code support throughout the whole platform..... it isn't exactly CLOSED as you portray (nor does MS have that history).
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
OT or just not a lot of news

You are correct. But there isn't anything new to hear. And the OT discussion did help me and I suppose others, too.

For example, I went ahead and ordered the wireless HD from Amazon after discussion on attaching a HD to the Infinity. It should suit my needs exactly.

It took a forum like this to give me the information I need to get my new tablet to work as I need it to work.

Here is something on topic: I can hardly wait to order a new ASUS Transformer Infinity!

Thank you very much.

Edro