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[Nokia Lumia 800] chrissjohn:
I am assuming that none of the above is available for those using a Mac and Windows Phone Connector for Mac? We will have to just wait for the official update notification..?
[Nokia Lumia 800] napster2k11:
Didn't work for me either

Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
Not sure about this, but I think the phone or zune searches an update that matches the operator and then downloads/installs a branded update. With cab-sender you select the unbranded update yourself. As long as tge device model matches, I don't think it will be rejected. Since these updates also contain bootloader and modem, I think this will completely remove the operator logo. It will definitely not sim-unlock your phone.

You can always remove the operator apps. You can do that right now. If the update works you will probably be unbranded for good. Unless you force a branded update later on.

Or just use a PC from a friend.

For you either? Who else has failed? What fails? Error codes/messages?

Ciao,

Heathcliff74
[Nokia Lumia 800] alirey:
cab update 12070

Just did it with no problems. T-mobile Germany.

Current discharging: 70mA (before 125mA)

Full Charge Capacity: 1338 mAh
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
Was your phone branded (operator logo)?? Is it still branded after the update??
[Nokia Lumia 800] alirey:
operator logo still there (operator picture at booting).

new internet explorer favorites from nokia appeared.

phone is branded but the provider apps are uninstalled before and

no more brandings visible.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
Ok. Cool. Thanks for the heads up.

Operator apps can always be uninstalled on any branded phone. Operator logo's usually cannot be uninstalled.

This means that the new 12070 update can in fact be installed on any NOKIA Lumia 800, including branded phones. But the update does not unbrand the phone.

Ciao,

Heathcliff74
[Nokia Lumia 800] svarog84:
Thanks all for help. I was hoping that it will remove operator logo at startup. I know about apps, first thing i did when got Lumia is deinstalling those apps :) I will wait a little longer and flash a debranded version. Operator logo is not that annoying but i still want to remove it :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] mechmouni:
Can someone share a few pics of battery life.. I know it varies from person to person.. But I guess after a few days you will get a decent estimate from battery saver ...
[Nokia Lumia 800] antonis9891:
So the cab update doesn't unbrand the phone.

But, when I update my german tmo phone by sending cab updates, will I still be able to update the phone through zune? I suppose yes.

Also I guess it doesn't affect the warranty right?
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
... to update to 12070, your apps won't be deleted. It's the same as updating with Zune. I just updated to 12070 myself.

QUESTION... are you talking about OS update to 12070? Or firmware to .12070 ???

This thread is confusing me... I have thw 12070 OS, but .11501 firmware, so looking for FIRMWARE update, not OS.

Any guidance welcomed about getting hold of kosher 12070 firmware PLEASE!
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
That can't be right, there is no .12070 O/S.
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
RUSTY. Thanks. My mistake... I'm finding the terminology confusing cos, in a 'firmware' thread, I find pointers to OS updates so I got confused... so to clarify (for my sake only, maybe!) I have:

OS 7.10.8107.79

FW 8107.11501

I WANT to update FW only (to .12070) but I don't see a clear guide / tutorial to do that... any help welcomed about 'how to' & any risks...

Thanks!
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
Got ya.

You need to do what a good few of us have done, and deploy the update with CAB Sender... it's dead easy, follow this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
So (& sorry for this...) I can get the firmware cab file from: http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._33f6e72c7916dcdfca7f8d2c8a89fb00e49b2dbf.cab ??

Fine, I can download that.

I'm afraid it's not too clear to me what actions I need to take to install.... sorry... but a clear action list (I'm unsure cos the thread you pointed to also had OS update instructions etc, & I'm unsure which apply (maybe all??) if you're only updating the FW.. Thanks again (sorry again, sheesh)
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
Yes, download that file, and the attachments on the post.

Install the contents of "WP_update_tool.rar"

Extract "WP7 Update Cab Sender.zip" and place the .cab file into the folder you extracted it to. Run "WP7 Update Cab Sender" and press B at the menu.

Now wait for it to finish.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Maszt:
So what is the battery life like now?

And I don't mean what diagnostic tool shows, but real life performance (hours/intensity of usage).
[Nokia Lumia 800] chaihg:
Today someone met with an accident and i could not call because of this effing end call problem. All it did was reboot after being stuck at "calling" screen for 3mins. I just wanted to throw this phone.

But came here and have some hope left. Can anyone of you please call your voicemail or any free number 10times and cut it to check if that problem persists after this update?

pleaasssseeeeeee
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
If you don't suffer from bad battery life to begin with this update won't make your battery any better. This update only fixes the drain that some has.

As far as I understand those with drain - their phones drop about ~3% per hour in standby. A healthy phone drops about ~1% per hour in standby. Mine has always done the later, and hence this new update did not make any change at all to my battery life.

I have always easily gotten a full day out of my phone with heavy usage.
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
And did your current drop in the Diagnostics app?
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
Yes. It's hovering around 50-80mA now. On previous firmware it was ~150mA. So that idle value is halved now.

Though that is with the screen ON. So we can't assume the "current" number is lower on this firmware when the screen is actually OFF.
[Nokia Lumia 800] waynefox:
The cab sender tool is great................For collecting logs

That's all it does with my phone.

followed all instructions to the letter. ran the batch file, it creates a log then says 'press any key to continue'

Nothing else

and yes, the updater tool and blah blah have been installed
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
Let me guess, you're on XP?

The .bat uses the choice command to run it's menu. That command was removed in Windows 2000 for some reason, but came back in Vista/7.
[Nokia Lumia 800] alirey:
There is an field called StandbyCurrent in the Diagnostic Tool.

Before it was at 10mA. After the update it is at 6mA.
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
That's true, but with intensive use, we should have an improvement in battery life isn't it? I find it's strange that current drops, but your battery life doesn't extend. And another strange thing I noticed, is that the maximum capacity is around 1450mAh when the battery is empty and after a full night of charging it's 1350mAh. The maximum also drops to 1350mAh. Now, after using the phone for a while again it's again 1450mAh maximum capacity... Is that how they 'solve' problems? They just fake the maximum??
[Nokia Lumia 800] waynefox:
that'll be why I get the 'choice is not a recognised command' error

Oh well, i'll just have to wait for the official update
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
No you won't ;)

Stick this batch in the same folder and run it, as the name suggests, it's the backup & update section of the original file. No choice needed.
[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
Oh BABY..

Cab Sender is THE way to go on this!!!

Multi-Thumbs Up!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
It's a bit early for me to tell if the battery life is better. It might be but not so much that I can notice it easily. But then again I have always been OK with its battery life. It's not great. Just not bad either.

I would not trust the charge capacity showing. It can fluctate and means nothing I'm pretty sure.
[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
I'm going to wring the camera out a bit the next day or to see how well the changes are. I did not see any of the stuff like Panorama or action settings that one or two posts mentioned.
[Nokia Lumia 800] powersquad:
have a brand new lumia 800 that came pre-installed with the 12070 firmware. first day battery life was only 7 hours with Hotmail and exchange set to push along with people hub updates.

drained the battery, re-charged it and now only managed 13 hours, out of which 8 hours were spent sleeping and it went into battery saver mode. my htc titan which has more stuff happening in the background tasks along with Hotmail and exchange still has 1 day 19 hours left since last night's charge.

is this normal time with the lumia 800 or is the battery faulty?
[Nokia Lumia 800] waynefox:
Cheers

That worked brilliantly
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
That's definitely wrong. Try doing a hard reset...
[Nokia Lumia 800] antonis9891:
What's the difference between this cab:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._33f6e72c7916dcdfca7f8d2c8a89fb00e49b2dbf.cab

and the one that is in the wp7 official cabs thread?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
It's the same file.
[Nokia Lumia 800] antonis9891:
Yes, you are right. I was looking at a different cab file, and there was difference in size.

I downloaded the cab, and easily sent it to device.

My phone remains branded, and the process was fast and easy.
[Nokia Lumia 800] zAndy12:
Struggling with the instructions on the other thread, example step 2 in the backup section says 'download this archive' but when I click on it it takes me to a 'page not found' error. What does step 6 in the backup section mean exactly? Or can I just download the 'WP7-Update-CAB-Sender.zip' file and run that with option B and not worry about the backup stuff? Also bit confused about whether I can just install the firmware CAB file or does it need language files installing as well? Sorry for the noob questions, only got my 800 yesterday so it's all a bit new to me this stuff

Ta
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
Yeah I didn't bother with the separate backup bit, I just used option B in CAB Sender to deal with it.
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
** SORRY (again)... when I do this, I get an error "could not find file UPDATEWP.LOG" and the update fails there. Tried it twice. Same problem.

What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
[Nokia Lumia 800] napster2k11:
Will the cab method also update a branded t mobile lumia 800?
[Nokia Lumia 800] q173242:
Yep, just used the cab method on my t-mobile lumia
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
did the update start rolling out Europe? (i have TIM branded lumia)
[Nokia Lumia 800] svarog84:
I have flashed my TIM lumia with CAB sender without any problem, works great. All my apps and settings are there
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
i know, i've read your post ... but i wanted to do it trough zune officially and i was wondering if it started rolling out so i can try the cable trick :P
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
EDIT. Succeeded! Seems that this update doesn't work except on your main PC (ie one recognised by Zune as main sync PC)???
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
the updating process does not work if the relationship of your device with zune is GUEST...
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
That's what I was trying to say ha ha - thanks for putting it better than I did !

Perhaps worth pointing that out in the Official WP7 updates list elsewhere on XDA-Dev...?
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
sure nobody else already did that? :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] soundstorm17:
If I update my phone via cab method can I use my phone with my current language (hungarian)? I get the all 22 language as i have now? (Sorrry for my english)
[Nokia Lumia 800] waynefox:
seems to be no difference in battery life on my Lumia after update.

Diagnostics app shows current drain at around 70-90mA with the occasional spike to around 150-180mA

Makes me wonder if it's more of a Placebo, have they just tweaked the app to show people the figures they are hoping for?

It's like me saying "my car keeps overheating. but if I bend the needle down on the temperature gauge it's not so bad"

On a plus note though, I no longer have the bug whereby my phone would shutdown as soon as I entered the SIM PIN and Lock code after powering up my handset (beforehand, I had to enter the PIN then wait a minute or so before entering the Lock code otherwise the phone would reboot)
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
Doesn't appear as a hint on http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1306415 ...
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
The new update only improves battery life for those who had drain. For the rest (majority) of us it doesn't do a thing regarding battery life. The music fix is the most noticable for the rest of us.

The diagnostic tool could have measured wrong before. I'm not sure though.
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
yes you do..
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
Cable trick only works with O/S updates, not firmware updates (unless they're packaged as part of an O/S update, like 11500 was).
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
crap...the i will try the cab method....the one in heatcliff's thread is not braded, right?
[Nokia Lumia 800] jnr21:
Cab in only update, not full rom, so if your current fw is branded, it's also branded after update.
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
right...thank you...
[Nokia Lumia 800] uksparx:
Please can you confirm if running a cab update invalidates you're warrenty.

Many thanks
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Not sure about this. Flashing a ROM voids your warranty, but the CAB sender just does the same as Zune. However, the warranty-service might find it suspicious if you're having an update that hasn't rolled out for your country...
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
I doubt they'd even notice. I bet the first thing they do when they get a phone is hit the big 'referb' button.
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Well I think they at least check some "flash counter" to see if you messed with it. But CAB sender dosn't flash so it shouldn't be a problem :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] Blackcorsa:
hi,

where can i find instructions for flashing with cab method ?

thank you

greetings
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
CAB sender method does not flash your phone. But however, the instructions are over here.
[Nokia Lumia 800] zAndy12:
Right folks, about to give this a go (very nervous!) but can someone just confirm that I don't need to download any language pack files, just need the update cab file and that's it, run the cab sender program, select B and bobs your uncle, yes?
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
I confirm:

1. You shouldn't be nervous :D)

2. You don't need language packs

3. You should indeed select B to have a back-up, don't know about your uncle though :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] zAndy12:
Well that went well - UpdateWP.exe 'The program can't start because ZuneCfg.DLL is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem' ... hmmmm
[Nokia Lumia 800] Erazor84:
I have a unbranded "Swiss" Lumia. My Operator code is 000-CH. It means OPN swiss.... 000-88 is also a code for open devices. my omnia 7 have that 000-88 code. the 12070 update also have the 000-88 code inside. do you think i can update the next firmware over zune? the 12070 firmware seems to be unbranded, but will it be the same firmware which will be released worldwide for open market phones?´i already flashed my phone with the new firmware, but i don't want to restore my phone after 5 months when the next firmware comes. i'm afraid that my phone cannot be updated over zune anymore. (NOKIA Updates).
[Nokia Lumia 800] BlitterTwisted:
I think anyone with a completely clean install of 11500 where the phone was factory reset and wiped, does not have battery problems. I think it was something about the upgrade from previous versions that left a mess or didn't work properly.

So if you bought your phone with 11500 already installed, it is probably fine.

But like you say, the audio improvements are most welcome. I can't wait for that.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Erazor84:
my phone was shipped with the 11501 firmware and i have only a 16 hours standby time ... so that's not the cause ...
[Nokia Lumia 800] zAndy12:
Uninstalled and reinstalled Zune (and let it install in the default folder this time!) and have now updated :) Nerve-wracking while it's doing it but all went smoothly thank god. Thanks for the help everyone
[Nokia Lumia 800] Heathcliff74:
The update has 000-88 in the package. But the update does not change that operator code. My device was 000-33 before the update and after the update it is still 000-33. I don't know what operator 000-33 is, but it is also some type of open-market operator code. I got my phone directly from Nokia HQ.

After the 12070, my Nokia finally survives a day of heavy usage (4 push-mail-account-syncs, some calls, internet usage and quite a lot of power-on-time with screen on highest brightness). Going to bed now after a long day with still 10% battery left. Before the update, my phone wouldn't last till dinner on a day like this. :)

Ciao,

Heathcliff74
[Nokia Lumia 800] VoodooKing:
If you stop checking on the drain, I'm sure your phone would last longer because the screen itself takes up quite a bit of power.
[Nokia Lumia 800] napster2k11:
I am with t mobile and I haven't noticed a update in Zune yet, so instead of waiting I just flashed a unbranded rom to my phone
[Nokia Lumia 800] asadkhanduhh:
may someone be so kind enough to give a complete noob(me) a step by step tutorial as to how to send the cabs?

i have read bt i am failing to comprehend the offical page which i am being referenced to. i have downloaded cab sender file, the cab file, and the wp7 update tool, placed them all in same folder, ran the cab sender and pressed B, it finishes but nothing happens?

also how does one know which version of zune they have?

thank you kindly in advance

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getting error in red

"error: no update files"
[Nokia Lumia 800] asadkhanduhh:
/nokiainnovation. com/2012/03/guide-how-to-get-the-latest-lumia-800-update-now/

^^ a real helpful guide to updating via the .cab sender process.

actually quite easy once understanding.
[Nokia Lumia 800] benkcsg:
Same experience. Much better battery life and bass in music.
[Nokia Lumia 800] -obiwan-:
Same here, dramatically improved battery live. However, I flashed back to 11501 due to a nasty bug I found in 12070. When I get an incoming call while listening to music the music volume increases tremendously. So seconds before the phone starts to ring music gets extremely loud and the ring itself as well. Once the call ends volume goes back to normal. Not sure if this repros on all phones but it did on my German T-Mobile device. After flashing back this was gone.

-obiwan-
[Nokia Lumia 800] Wiggy Fuzz:
i'm getting much improved music, but battery discharge seems around the same as before the update.

maybe the discharge rate is lower when i'm not looking at it, though, because i end the day with decent battery life.
[Nokia Lumia 800] antonis9891:
After 2 days with the new firmware, I can safely state that the battery performance is really better now.

But the end-calling issue hasn't been corrected. On the contrary, now it happens all the time, before it was less frequent as far as I remember.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
I have found out I get the end-call bug when I have screen-off timer set to 30 seconds. After I changed that timer to 1 minute I have never seen the end-call bug again.
[Nokia Lumia 800] piattj:
With 12070 firmware, my Lumia 800 is now a great phone... battery life is well acceptable, SQ is fine. I'm sure there may be other issues but the issues I was seeing have been dealt with so well done Nokia (& thanks to those who guided me (& others) to the Singapore FW and update tools...)
[Nokia Lumia 800] mrTablet:
How is the camera after upgrade to .12070?

My Nokia takes bad pictures :mad:
[Nokia Lumia 800] napster2k11:
The white balance is alot better and pictures seem sharper on 12070
[Nokia Lumia 800] clinteastman:
I'm slightly confused, after applying the update the diagnostics app remains the same.

It's still showing "Full Charge Capacity" and "Remaining Charge Capacity" and reports it's self as Version 1.0.0.0 and is discharging at 112 mA.

Any Ideas?
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Yes, you have used the CAB sender method, right? So, the Diagnostics app is unaltered. It's normal :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] clinteastman:
Ah right, that makes sense.

So I guess the reported drop in discharge from the "New" diagnostics app is an effect of recalibration?
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
That's possible, however I see a drop in the "old" diagnostics app as well (I used CAB sender method too) :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] clinteastman:
So what's your number when idling?
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
It depends... Sometimes I get around 70mA like everyone here, but sometimes it's 120 and up to 150mA. Values I was used to on the 11500 update but not on 12070...
[Nokia Lumia 800] clinteastman:
OK that sounds like this one.

I spotted in an other thread that to go over to the new diagnostics app you can uninstall the current one and then reinstall to get the new one. Question is, where am I reinstalling from, it's not in the marketplace is it?
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
No, it installs when you dial a number. But I don't remember what number exactly, you should have to search for that. :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
It's already on the phone. After uninstall, phone ##634# and it will install again.
[Nokia Lumia 800] soundstorm17:
I updated my phone with cab sender, but i dont know if it safe for the next updates,anyone can confirm this?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
It will be, it's doing O/S updates wrong (language packs missing) that buggers up future updates.
[Nokia Lumia 800] soundstorm17:
So, I cannot reach the future updates with zune (tango for example) if i update my phone to 12070 with cab sender? Should I downgrade/restore my phone from 12070 to 11500?
[Nokia Lumia 800] clinteastman:
If you updated to 12070 using cab sender then all future updates will be fine, no need to do anything.
[Nokia Lumia 800] fryjs:
Just a note for Australians: I bought a Lumia 800 from Telstra today with 12070 already on it.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Shebee:
Hey guys, I'm sick of waiting for the update, so I think I'll just flash it myself.

Are there any unbranded roms floating around? I don't want to bother with any logos when booting up.
[Nokia Lumia 800] sHaHiN786:
If your phone is branded to your network, it will stay branded to your network after the update, this update does not unbrand or brand your phone on another operator branding. ;)
[Nokia Lumia 800] kharma45:
Anyone on Three in the UK got the update via Zune yet? No sign of it for my brothers Lumia 800.
[Nokia Lumia 800] sHaHiN786:
Nope, apparently it's been delayed as there were bugs found. So once they fix them, I believe it'll be sent out again to the smaller market (India, Singapore) before they give an official date, so it may be a few months from now.
[Nokia Lumia 800] pexer-abc:
Perhaps I've misunderstand this, but thats not true. If it's locked, it will stay locked. However if it's branded You can indeed flash it with a unbranded rom to remove the branding. I've done it myself with a T-mobile branded Lumia 800. Right now I'm running a dutch unbranded 12070 FW.
[Nokia Lumia 800] -obiwan-:
This sounds like you have flashed your phone with the latest NL country variant. If so, please can you check if the volume bug is present in this version?

E.g. switch your volume down to 4 or 5 and see if it jumps up to full volume if you are receiving a call.

Thanks!
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
Or when you receive a message. I noticed it happens then as wel... Quite frustrating...
[Nokia Lumia 800] pexer-abc:
Sms: no :)

Incoming call: yes :(

Just to clarify: on incoming call the volume raises to full for 1-2 seconds, then returns to correct level.
[Nokia Lumia 800] _Madmatt:
I get it on SMS, and calls. It raises 1-2 seconds before the SMS or call arrives, indeed and when the ring is over it returns. But it is frustrating...