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[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
No, the point would be, if you feel this way then don't get a tablet, period. I've tried enough different ones to say that they ALL have marginal sound at best, and NONE have sufficient volume for more than casual listening. The Prime was no better or worse than other tablets, and I don't expect the TF700 to be any different.
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
Absolutely no room for homophobic insults.

Crapple does suck though.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
So the question beckons....

If Asus opt to delay 32gig version of Infinity 700 even further...

Will majority of you fork over that $600 + $150 for dock???

Or...

Purchase other tablets (Acer 700 or just wait for Win 8 tablets)??

To those who waited on Infinity 700 since it was announced.. it shouldn't matter much (as the initial price was $600 for 32gig version at CES)...

but now knowing the price of iPad (better resolution) & even Acer 700... how attractive is 64gig version of Infinity Pad 700 at $600 without the dock??

Edit: Btw.. for a price of $600 + $150.. you can even purchase a ultrabook with Geforce 640m LE GPU (this is the kepler version). For the same price, you should be able to afford Windows tablet (clovertrail or trinity) + keyboard.. and FULL OS.

http://www.slashgear.com/acer-aspire-timeline-ultra-m5-ultrabooks-start-from-679-99-20234844/
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I wonder if the Infinity supports apt-x. A nice set of bluetooth speakers, and everybody should be happy??
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
I said the same thing before...

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Well, presonally I guess I'll go for the 32gig version as originally planned when i saw it first time on CES. For a brief moment I thought I could get the 64gig version+dock for 650euros, maybe less (as swiss prices indicated).

I've been waiting for this tablet since the day it was announced at CES, and even sold my acer notebook so I could buy it, but I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a time I wanted to buy a tf300 and end it all, sometimes I even looked at the iPad :rolleyes:

I am prepared to buy the ft300 or acer 700 if they delay the Infinity till august, my budget is 650euros so I'll look at what's the best deal for the money.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I know you mentioned bluetooth speakers. My point is that the standard SBCodec for audio compression leaves a little to be desired. As such, i would hope the Infinity supports the apt-x codec, which will provide audio quality on par with wired speakers. I guess i should have been more specific and said a nice set of apt-x compatible bluetooth stereo speakers.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gunner1937:
The end of your saying, that you forgot to quote, is "......after Easter unless it's an egg from Faberge". :D:D
[Asus Transformer TF700] carolek:
I don't think so

The Infinity is not up for pre-order. It is still listed as "sold out online."
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
hey guys sorry for mi ignorence ... what is i/o.... i/o probles.... and i/o event? thanks <3
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Google I/O is a developer event that Google will be holding on the 27th. Its when the rumored 7" Nexus Tablet will be launched, as well as Android 4.1 Jellybean.

I/O in general means Input/Output, and generally refers to memory or disk access. The Prime apparently had some issues with slow I/O that resulted in the web browser randomly grinding to a halt and displaying an application not responding message.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
thank you man
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>Here's what I would do, if I were ASUS:

Copy MS' keyboard cover. Add built-in stand; add gaming pad overlay to multitouch surface.

Second-gen: Rechristen keyboard cover to "input" cover. Add N-Trig pen input. Improve upon dual-screen Taichi concept by adding a secondary low-power (semi-flexible) display to abovesaid cover. Display can show keyboard, game pad, or any manner of gesture input control as required by an app. Publish API to get app support for device.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
You mean something like the Acer Iconia Dual screen 6120 laptop?
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>You mean something like the Acer Iconia Dual screen 6120 laptop?

An input cover is better than dual (glass) screens. With replaceable overlays, it allows tactile input, important for high-speed input. It is also lighter, more compact, uses less power, and cheaper.

I like the MS Surface keyboard cover, not because I like the MS tablet, or even the cover itself, but because it's a breakthrough in thinking: That a lowly cover can be the answer to the tablet's Achilles heel. It lacks an efficient, compact input device.

The "input panel" concept goes much further than a simple keyboard. It can be a better keyboard than a keyboard, in the sense that it can be configured for a variety of input methods, from gaming pad to digitizer to auxiliary display/control panel (assuming secondary display panel).

Work on improving haptic feedback would also be more fruitful such a panel rather than on the primary (tablet) display itself.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Hemidroids:
Everything you just said has ZERO appeal to me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Doesn't the Transformer Book have n-Trig? Or maybe Wacom? Same difference, of course (active digitizer + pen). Then, there's the keyboard dock, which you consider a lot more different than I do from the Surface keyboard cover. To me, the keyboard dock 1) acts as a cover and 2) is a keyboard. It's thicker and heavier, sure, but adds in the things we've discussed ad nauseum. So, same concept, just different implementation.

I really do have a hard time seeing the Surface keyboard cover as the breakthrough innovation that you see it as. And, I think there's room for both that and the ASUS (now common) keyboard dock hybrid. All the latter lacks is better promotions...
[Asus Transformer TF700] welrope:
test?

Posted this in another thread but wanted to post here as well as this thread is hot. I returned my prime due to this fault in several units. But reading that some were not affected by screen issues (tearing/flickering/etc) was confusing as i have seen it on several primes. I am hoping the person with the infinity can try this test as well so i will know before i buy one (soon hopefully). Here is my post/question and i look forward to hearing from those of you who try it and especialy the one with the infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
It's the June 25th now... ;) *waiting for the folks at netshop.no to start working*
[Asus Transformer TF700] JPop360:
netshop.no now have the WiFi 64GB infinity with and without dock for sale.
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
Yeah for while, but still not listed as in stock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
The Videos are back up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LaJYYabnMI&feature=plcp
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
i completely understand

we've all been down that road...i actually picked up a tf300t on sat to test out tablet life...haha

but i must say....the tf300t leaves me wanting. i'm definitely getting a TPI with the upgraded features.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JPop360:
New Video by ASUS on YouTube .. /watch?v=bqus37RcTSY

(English Subs)
[Asus Transformer TF700] flight777:
Another video of a large Dutch gadget website:

http://tweakers.net/video/5767/videoreview-asus-transformer-infinity.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] JPop360:
More Videos via the Asus YouTube Page

ASUS Transformer Pad - The Next Transformation - /watch?v=bqus37RcTSY

ASUS Transformer Pad - Getting Ready for Transformation - /watch?v=QWYTghVZpNo

and the already seen

Exploring the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity - /watch?v=s7YvXgHe5UY
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
All the reviews are starting too Engadget ect, I like the anandtec review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review
[Asus Transformer TF700] DRVB:
Engadget has a review of the TPI ...price $499 and up in the US
[Asus Transformer TF700] carolek:
Another new video

A new unboxing video by TechnoBuffalo

/watch?v=4HS0kkak03w
[Asus Transformer TF700] Johnjr08:
Looks like its gonna be July 16th... I was hopeful it would be June 25th.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Whoa, massive list of videos on yt... Gotta watch 'em all :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
Yeah. Looks like mostly positive reviews. But cant find ant article confirming other release dates other then in the us.

Edit: And i've read 3 reviews that concludes: "Those who already own a Prime, however, will be better off saving their money for the next Transformer iteration."
[Asus Transformer TF700] Johnjr08:
Almost all of the articles I have read in the last half hour say the week of July 16th.
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
Typo. I meant release dates for other countries then US. (Like the rest of the world) ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] JPop360:
I'm hoping the week of July 16th is the release date for the UK as well. (Fingers crossed)
[Asus Transformer TF700] carolek:
Came across one article that said the U. S. date of July 16 is "flexible."

More info:

The 32GB version of the Infinity also offers double the memory of the third-generation 16GB Apple iPad, at the same price, $499. Meanwhile, the 64GB version of the Infinity costs $599, which is $100 less than the 64GB iPad. Asus expects the Infinity to be available for sale, at the earliest, during the week of July 16, in two colors: Amethyst Gray and Champagne Gold.

Just Google it and you'll find many articles all saying the same thing.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lqbweb:
they must be kidding me..... are they pretending to being compared with the iPad in terms of price?

looks like the same philosophy as apple when they charge you +100 for going from 16 to 32....

The only thing which kept me away from the iPad is the ****ty and marketing policy they run when they don't offer you full capabilities in further firmwares, or the price increase when moving from 16gb to 32gb or to 64gb....
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
Quick list of reviews this morning:

CNET: http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/asus-transformer-pad-infinity/4505-3126_7-35332613.html

PCWorld: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2582...w_stylish_highperformance_android_tablet.html

CNET: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...review-infinite-potential-limited-os-support/

Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/25/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700-review/

AnandTech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review

Ubergizmo: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-review-tf700/

All Touch Tablet: http://www.alltouchtablet.com/articles/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-700-review-17813/

Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/25/asus-transformer-infinity-wifi-review/

Droid Life: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/25/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-review/

Geeky gadgets: http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/asus-t...00-hits-the-us-next-month-for-499-25-06-2012/

Hardware.Info: http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/285...infinity-tf700t-review-full-hd-android-tablet
[Asus Transformer TF700] leppie:
Only one review I have seen mentioned I/O numbers. (Antutu I/O: 485, which metric this is, who knows, I assume DB i/o). :rolleyes:

I wonder if ASUS 'asked' the reviewers not to mention it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] flight777:
Asus Benelux just told on their Facebook the official release date is 13 July but "keep an eye out on the pricewatch websites as some select stores might get them earlier" :P
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
Even a few days earlier for the release in the US would be better for me....me brother leaves there on July 12th to come to Ireland and he has to have one for me!! :-)

Cheers,

M
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
This is the closest I come to a confirmed date in norway:

http://www.spaceworld.no/display.aspx?menuid=610&prodid=48310&ref=prisjakt

netshop.no still has unconfirmed date of today. Just sent them an e-mail.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
So now the Infinity has gotten a release date in the US, but there's still no official date for the rest of the world. Although a few suppliers in Europe are already selling it, while most of the others don't even know when it'll be in stock.

Great job, Asus! Yet another botched release of a Transformer product.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
@Demandarin

So did you get a 32GB or 64GB unit to toy with?

Yes, methinks it's Show-and-Tell time for Dem Darin Man. Go ahead, we won't tell... :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
Netshop.no reply:
[Asus Transformer TF700] fcan:
eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/

it is renewed :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] thephreak99:
They have changed the battery specs:

Nice to see that they list more realistic specs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fcan:
It says Prime's dock is NOT compatible with infinity however infinity's is compatible with prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
On tweakers.net they mentioned that this tablet is going to be €100 more expensive than the Prime. Yet I thought (and expected) it to be the same price.

So if I want the 32GB + dock version how much will I probably need to pay in euros? I have a budget of €600.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wpbear:
Engadget review said Prime dock works on Infinity. Since the battery is better, it may be better to find old dock now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Johnex:
From the specification here:

http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/specification/Default.htm

It seems like Asus has removed LTE last minute (i assume cos of S4's previous production issues)
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
True 19.5Wh in the Infinity's dock vs 22Wh in prime's. I don' get it, why, to lower the production cost?
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
$650 seems reasonable.

I wander how that will translate into UK pricing (where we are normally ripped off).
[Asus Transformer TF700] deep750:
PCWORLD:

I read a Norwegian review that also had trouble with force close using the browser-

Haven't Asus managed to solve the issue yet? I don't want a pad that can't be used browsing the web!
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Some of us expected a release date today. I guess that's not going to happen? What is the last word on a (European) release?
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
Looks like ASUS is afraid that releasing TF700 now will cannibalize the sales of the future tablets like Transformer book, the coming TF800, TF900, and so forth... :cowboy:
[Asus Transformer TF700] wpbear:
CNET states the dock must be at the latest firmware...so is there a way to update dock firmware without the original Prime docked to do the update?
[Asus Transformer TF700] gunner1937:
You are provocative:rolleyes:

Let the guy alone. He might be preparing the most biased and dithyrambic review of an Asus tablet.:o

And you know what it means for all of us:eek:

I think I'll buy this TF700:D
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
Anyone wondering about S4 vs T3, just Google comparisons between HTC One X international (T3) and HTC One X AT&T (S4)
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
The asus website for the T700T shows it still has two CPU options, but all the reviews are the Wifi only version :/

I have been planning on getting the 4G version, but it seems that's no longer an option? It definitely looks like the delays have them pointing people to the Transformer Book and 810. Now I'm quite unsure what to do.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
It's probably more to do with Qualcomm not being able to supply enough Krait SoCs for everyone. I wouldn't expect it anytime this year, really. Even if Asus claims it would be available tomorrow, I'd take that with a truckload or two of salt.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KOCTA:
It was written that LTE version will hit the market later than WiFi-only.
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
Yeah, I think that I'm done with this one. The timing pushes it back into too many other tablets that look a lot better, even from Asus' own offerings. Another small point, the Infinity site shows the two CPUs, but does not even mention 3g/4g in the connectivity specs or features.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Hmm, so after reading all the reviews (at least the ones I have found so far...)...

Infinity Pad 700 improved on WIFI/GPS & increased the resolution.

When you read quotes such as this in early reviews/impressions...

"We also observed a few other hiccups: apps were sometimes sluggish in opening and closing, and the camera application downright halted when we tapped the home button to exit."

or

"Remember NVIDIA's Tegra 3 only has a single channel memory interface, so frequency is the only option for increasing memory bandwidth. The increase in bandwidth does make scrolling and most UI interactions fairly smooth, although you will see dropped frames from time to time."

You can make an educated guess that Infinity 700 will face similar issues as to Prime (at least they resolved the WIFI & GPS issue... which was my biggest gripe with Transformer Prime). Having a single I/O controller inside Tegra 3 really cripples this SoC (and tablets that use Tegra 3).

Edit: Another important question that I must ask..... if the launch date is supposedly July 16th & later... which OS will it be released with? Jellybean or ICS?? Not going to look good on Infinity if inferior 7 in. tablet is released with the latest OS.. while the Premium tablet.. isn't.
[Asus Transformer TF700] apkapkapk:
Do you guys think this'll help with the I/O issues?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1714253

And is there any difference between the Prime's dock and the Infinity's dock (aside from the battery)? If there's no difference, one might as well just order the Prime's dock for the bigger battery right?
[Asus Transformer TF700] scarmona:
What about differences between TF300T and the Infinity besides screen resolution, camera and build materials?

Enviado desde mi GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk 2
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
600 nits brightness rather than 300.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
And faster processor too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
The box label of the Infinity dock says "Model: tf201" Which basically means it's the identical device.

So to answer your question: NO, theres no difference between the two docks, at this point we're not even sure that tha battery inside is different. In one of the youtube videos the presenter clearly pointed out that.the part number of.the dock was the same as before.

What people here seem to forget is that the Infinity is just a prime with its flaws ironed out. I remember when asus first announced the prime back in october (I think it was october, nwm) it had a 2mpix front camera announced.

Even now we see that the infinity is priced like the prime. Infinity is just what the prime was designed to be in the first place + a full hd display, even the colours are the same.
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
The battery life of the infinity is less than the prime because of the new screen and faster processor, not because of a different battery size.

For those with the old dock, does it have the USB socket as well? I was under the impression the USB port was new to the Infinity dock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Rakinos:
Prime dock came with a usb port.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Ot of my head I can think of size, screen brightness, camera flash, Infinity comes with a forever lasting 8gb online cloud storage, faster clock of the cpu 1.6-1.7ghz, t33 procrssor as opossed to the t30 in the tf300... There's probbably more but I cant think of any now...
[Asus Transformer TF700] UberShrewd:
http://www.youtube.com/user/gadgetjm

Some interesting benchmarking and smack downs uploaded on this channel, enjoy all.
[Asus Transformer TF700] stubbeb:
Jelly Bean

Even if there are any I/O issues, won’t these be solved with Jelly Bean, which is waiting just around the corner?
[Asus Transformer TF700] eleger91:
599 euros for the wifi version with 32go...

I've just pre ordered...

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$159.00 ???
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Hmm, interesting video.

Rather amused by the benchmark video....

In multi-thread benchmark... look at the crazy inconsistency....
[Asus Transformer TF700] eleger91:
sold out !
[Asus Transformer TF700] apkapkapk:
I must've seen something wrong... I remember seeing someone mention that the battery in the Infinity's dock was of a lower capacity than that in the Prime's dock. Well no issues there then! Thanks for clearing it up! Now just to wait for this to be released here in Singapore...
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
I believe this is a placeholder listing on their site. I doubt they've actually sold any.

Also, the docks sold on Amazon for the Prime have Model #: TF201-DOCK-GR

The docks on Best Buy's site for the docks are: TF700T-DOCK-GR and TF700T-DOCK-CG

If they're different model numbers, then they're different devices, I hope.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
@xxxxxx el Infinity vendrá en versión 32GB a 499€ (solo PAD) y la versión 32GB + dock a 619€. Un saludo!

So Spanish price. @ASUS_IB
[Asus Transformer TF700] wpbear:
Prime Docks are about $109 on Amazon about $100 on buy.com. I'm thinking about ordering one of those and putting it on the shelve until July 16.
[Asus Transformer TF700] t3ej4y:
Hi fellow Singaporean, are you planning on contacting any of the simlim retailers/challengrr/Harvey norman to check for early stock?
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Yes, that would be me :eek:... I was given bad information

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Thank you, this info means a lot :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] apkapkapk:
Hey! I actually called Challenger (Vivo) today and they said this: "Isn't that the Win 8 one? It's only on show in Taiwan."

-_-...

I'm still gonna call and check in the next few weeks! If there's anything I'll post it up here for you to see :D

Ohhh haha okay. It's cleared up so it's all good! Can't wait for it to be released! Ahhhhhhh

EDIT:

Here's a YouTube review of the dock!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbPYaG_21Ek&list=UUgRUqKlyEohtMeceU6Am_QA&index=10&feature=plcp
[Asus Transformer TF700] t3ej4y:
Ahh that would mean a lot, thanks :D dammit Asus you're holding back my productivity by holding this back!
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
Yeah, right...

- around the corner, just that nobody knows how long till we reach that corner

- and certainly the os will somehow magically rectify the hardware bottleneck of Tegra3

The S4 version seems more and more attractive, which bring to mind the fact that

- info courtesy BestBuy

As for the battery in the Infinity's dock being the same capacity as Prime's dock, I wouldn't be as optimistic. Several reports stated the difference, and only single post here claims they're identical. Will believe it when I see the disassembled docks with battery labels exposed. As for what's written on the box, it says nothing directly about the battery capacity, so it's moot.
[Asus Transformer TF700] apkapkapk:
Ehhh it should be the same. In the video I posted a few posts up, the reviewer said it's the same as the dock of the Prime. The battery life may be different due to the greater use of battery by the Infinity. More power baby!
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
hey guys where i can buy this in u.s. .... i leave the country in july 5... i have to buy it before i leave it ;(
[Asus Transformer TF700] apkapkapk:
Review sites have mentioned that it'll be available in the U.S. on the 16th of July. Looks like you may have to get this somewhere else...
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
ASUS Poland said on their Facebook page it will be available by the end of the week, but the price is unknown yet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] PurpleSh4rk:
Another change nobody has deemed to catch is the memory improvement. The prime had 1GB DDR2 and the Infinity has 1GB DDR3.