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[Asus Transformer TF700] nunoloule:
The date of the availability of the Infinity is very important.

It should replace the TF201 and the 300 series should replace the TF101.

I expect the same range of prices of the actual products.

In terms of diferences between Prime and Infinity, the improvement of the Wifi and GPS with the plastic part on top of the pad should be main thing.

The screen resolution wil not benefit for 95% of the users.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
That would make a lot more sense than keeping the 4 products on the market. Probably this will be the long term goal.
[Asus Transformer TF700] EarlZ:
Funny, on what grounds do you say that the resolution wont benefit 95% of the users.

If thats the case then they should have just kept 1024x600 till now :p
[Asus Transformer TF700] kidneysrgood:
Will the Transformer Prime docks work with the Infinity model, or will I also have to sell it to purchase a new one when the time comes?
[Asus Transformer TF700] junrider:
hard to say now.... When the TF700 was displyed at CES it was compatible with the tf201 dock..... But things can changes until the actual release to the public.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tq745:
i'd be very surprised if it didn't work with the prime dock. other then the screen resolution and the different backing the infinity and prime is identical.
[Asus Transformer TF700] stereokontroll:
in a belgian shop, the TF300 is expected the 5th of may

i can't post the link directly (because this is my first post), but it can be found at:

w w w.vandenborre.be/tablet-pc/asus-transformer-tf300t-32g-b

32GB model, dock inclusive

€ 599 (exactly the same as the TF201, 32GB, dock inclusive)

now if only the TF700 would come that day too... :cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] PrimeUser:
€599 for a plastic shell, less battery life, less processing power, inferior screen, just to name a few!

You must be joking, right?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Yeah that does suck...its priced the same as the prime also, or at least overseas. Its messed up how you all have to pay alot more for the same products.

I thought the 300 model was supposed to be a cheaper alternative model. At that price, doesn't seem like it. Lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
Maybe that's the upcoming announcement?

Dear Customer.

Thank you for choosing Asus.

For your loyalty and interest, we decided to bring some changes to our line up. As you probably remember, we removed GPS from TF201 specs. That was to benefit YOU, so YOU wouldn't expect GPS to work. After a lot of thinking, we decided we didn't screw you up enough with poor launch, very limitead stock and every other device having poor WIFI+BT performance, so we introduce brand new SCREW THE CUSTOMER scheme. You can't buy TF201 anymore, instead you can buy TF300 for the same price, but lower specs and cheaper materials. We decided that to protect your vision, we would not include Super IPS panels, to improve wifi we changed back from aluminium to plastic, but made antenna gain worse, so it doesn't fry your brains. We will obviously charge the same amount as for TF201, because we CAN, as TF series are the only ones which fold into a nice netbook shape thingy with a keyboard, and if you want it, you have to pay premium. Warranty is void before you even half-unlock bootloader, but if you still decide to RMA it, we will make your experience as bad as possible, so YOU don't dare to bother us again. Once again, that is for your own benefit, as you won't be tabletless while repair (read destruction) goes on, because you won't even send it to us.

Cunningly yours

Asus

On a serious note, nooooooooooooooo way they can charge that much, it just won't happen, someone is just trying to cash in on preorders or something.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
Haha, funny
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
And maybe correct. Why should Asus sell the more expensive to make Prime IF they can sell the 300 at the same price? I am beginning to wonder if the revised panel "Prime" is really the 300 instead. That would be megalame. Yes, Asus said the Prime would "Sell along with the 300 and 700", but they could be playing with semantics and the Prime bleeding out of inventory- with no revised back panel.

That said, not seeing how they could sell the 300 in the US at the same price. They already set the bar with the Prime- just needs a plastic strip on the back. Added: My guess is the 300 is at least $100 less than the Prime in the US.
[Asus Transformer TF700] stereokontroll:
my guess is the price for the TF300 will drop in that shop.

It's a shop that follows the prices of other shops. If another shop sells this device cheaper, they drop their price to that level.

So we'll have to wait just a bit to know the actual price here in Europe
[Asus Transformer TF700] dmoney94:
This is what their pricing should be---

1-ASUS Transformer TF101 16GB $249

32GB $299

2-ASUS Transformer TF300 16GB $329

32GB $359

3-ASUS Transformer PRIME 32GB $449

4-ASUS Transformer TF700(Infinity) 16GB $499

32GB $549

What you think guys!
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
These exist?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
I see prime price staying exactly the same. or will be lowered in price around fall. especially since the Infintity pad is now said to have no plans for American release yet and won't release anywhere till the end of the year. so Asus could still easily keep prime at same price since inifinity pad not coming out till closer to the end of the year. here is the quote:

" am not sure if I answered your question on the Infinity.* But it has not been declared for an official release on North American shores.* I am anticipating closer to the end of the year before it gets released.

*

Thanks,

Hai Trat

JR. Technical Product Manager

Inspiring Innovation.Persistent Perfection"

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no, more than likely a typo.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rift999:
I know I read about a lot of the bricks and issues as I am considering unlocking my prime and was hoping there was a better non asus way that did complected unlock it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jadefalcon6:
Infinity Alternative

This is my first post so I apologize in advance if it's off topic.

I'm really tired of waiting for the infinity and now some say we won't see it till years end. I'm considering the Acer a510 resolution is almost as good as the prime and it comes with ICS preloaded. No docking keyboard but at least it's available for pre-order. I'll probably wait till there are a couple of reviews posted on it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paddycr:
I actually think that unlocking is pretty safe as long as you use some common sense i.e. keep up with whats going on in the Development forum, don't mess with settings in CWM that you don't understand (of which there are quite a few for me :)). The only real issue is do you trust the hardware enough to void your warranty?
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
The only reason I'm not unlocked.

I think I'm about to notice my light bleed and GPS issues along with my poor WiFi. See if I can't land a C4 serial with the dongle as a replacement. Time to start cleaning my prints and dirt from the inside of my Prime I guess.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paddycr:
Yeah, I do think that is a genuine concern and a good reason not to unlock. In my mind the Prime is imperfect but I am more than happy with it. I consider my hardware issues minor: weakish wifi at a distance, bad GPS, minor light bleed that is only noticeable when booting. What I wasn't happy with was the software performance (constant crashing while browsing, laggyness). This has been so much better since unlocking.

If something hardware-related happens, maybe I can beg Asus to help (there seem to have been some success stories on here), but I am definitely not counting on that. I have also got Squaretrade which is some reassurance if something bad happens. Hell, perhaps my 2 year old will give it a bath. Accidents happen :eek:
[Asus Transformer TF700] rift999:
I agree. I own a NS4G so have some experience with CWM and reading forums lol. But unlocking that was entirely different. there was no "send us your serial number and we will partway unlock it"
[Asus Transformer TF700] speedemonV12:
From a lot of the reviews I have read I heard the prime had virtually no laggyness, was this common for you? How often were you getting browser crashes and were you able to identify why this happened?

I just ordered a Prime from Office Depot and it should be here Monday but you just got me all worried!
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
What's the price? Do you have a link too?:confused:
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
Read carefully, I've already found a replacement that will cover all my tablet needs.

As for quitting crying... read the op's last post in this thread.

Vote with your dollars for ASUS's great customer-oriented approach! They've worked their behinds off to make you wait so long, you should be grateful.

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It's not about pad price vs notebook price. It's about price vs. quality.

An mpb costs a ton for a notebook with its specs, and its build quality is nigh impeccable (and I don't like macs, so it really is good).

Asus costs a lot for a pad, but has design flaws ("stereo" speakers, glass giving in, I/O issues), and is late to market. Shouldn't be all of the above for the price asked, or should be priced down accordingly. Of course, while the thankful customers are in awe of ASUS for such benevolent treatment, and are ready to pay a perfect price for an imperfect gadget - nothing will change, and prices will stay high.
[Asus Transformer TF700] brucewilsonpa:
I think most of us get your point so there's no need to keep repeating - if we choose to favor Asus with our business that's our choice but if you decide not to that's your choice - please don't continue repeating your views!
[Asus Transformer TF700] lqbweb:
anybody knows a Chinese tablet with a full hd screen?
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
Here's my point of view and sorry for repeating what was said by others on previous pages.

The speaker thing is not a big deal at all for me. I don't expect this tablet to replace a home theater. Like me, I think most people who are going for a premium tablet like that already have TVs everywhere in there homes. It could be used for watching stuff on the go but you should use headphones for that anyways. So all I expect from the tab's speakers is a sound clear enough to understand what someone says. Other than that the speakers will notice me when I have new emails. If you need premium sound, plug it in you sound system.

What attract me to this tablet is the sweet design, the high resolution for nicer text and pdf reading and the high brightness to be able to use it outside while the kids play in the yard. I'm not looking for a laptop. The dock will allow me to use it to answer a couple emails at night if I'm too lazy to reach my pc but it's only a bonus.
[Asus Transformer TF700] megamoz:
You should be awarded with a medal or something for all your contribution :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
On Best Buy's site, if you search for "Transformer Infinity" you get nothing. But if you search for TF700T, you get the two keyboards and the gold 64gb tablet (unknown if wifi or 4G) and the Zagg Invisishield. The docks are in stock for $159.

Grey Dock:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...18655167288&skuId=5495643&st=yf700t&cp=1&lp=2

Gold Dock:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...18655168730&skuId=5495634&st=yf700t&cp=1&lp=3

The docks are "in stock" but if you try to order them, they are backordered, ship in 7-30 days...
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
All of the above are sound points. This really depends on the use case. HD screen is indeed very attractive for viewing e.g. scanned PDFs\djvu and does offer a slight, more psychological, advantage when browsing the web (few people *****ed about low res of QVGA screens when all we knew were PDAs, right?). However, for many people, 1024x768 or 1280x800 are quite good enough for these purposes, as well. Some would even say "LCD will break your eyes - only e-Ink is good enough!" (not that we'd believe them, eh?)

I do disagree about the speakers - I'd very much like to watch movies e.g. in bed or on the sofa with real stereo (ideally with speakers turned _towards_ me, like in samsung's European tablets). I do not watch TV, all I ever watch is stored on my HDDs, so the tab would be one of the two ways to consume this media, aside from a desktop PC. So again, it is all about the use cases - for some, the quality of the pad's sound system is of prime importance.

It's just funny that nobody noticed how subtly asus got to asking a price of a notebook for a device that is neither perfectly built nor as functional.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
That's pretty similar to my view. I already have a rather bulky laptop, I'm picking this up so that I have something very light I can use to take notes in class, handling email and doing light editing of papers on. My Touchpad was capable of doing that with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and I see no reason the Infinity wouldn't be able to do the same. Simple tasks in a much lighter package, not a full laptop replacement.

Besides, if one wanted more functionality, this is XDA so nobody is afraid of root. That makes a Linux chroot an option, opening a huge amount of possibilities.
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
"NVIDIA Tegra 3 graphics For lush images. Micro HDMI output for connection to an HDTV." - so, no 4G and no Krait.
[Asus Transformer TF700] dergraf:
HD

Yesterday I had a preproduction sample of Infinity in hands for about 10 minutes and generally it looked really nice. I especially liked the dock.

The responsivness was quite nice. The screen was really nice. It was light (big plus for that) and felt solidly done (except maybe the buttons which could feel a bit better).

The main question I have about the high resolution display is, can android (ICS) and the apps really make use of it?

Personally I am a bit undecided about android tablet (got a phone with ICS, liking nothing more) because of apps. I dont know much about graphics and only little of programming but will it mean that there will be HD apps (for current tablets) and HD+ tabs for high res tablets like A700 and Infinity?

Price: expected at 500-550 dollars/euros (32gb no dock), which I think will mean quite reasonable sales (similar to prime) which will kill A700 (weight, heat) and new Galaxy note (which is expected at similar or even higher price) but it wont be enough to dissuade people from ipads.
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
good catch. In my rush to post I apparently didn't take the time to think :P
[Asus Transformer TF700] megamoz:
How about the display quality? Hope you don't have any, but dead/bright/stuck pixels, LCD mura?
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
I don't have cable either but I have XBMC hooked up to all my media collection via jail-broken apple tvs. If you haven't explored that possibility, try it and it'll rock your world!! You can even sync all of them together so you can start something in your living room and resume it in you bedroom 2 days later. It'll remember where you stopped in every show or movie. It'll put a check mark for everything you already watched. It gives you the IMDB score of all your movies and some other score for your tv episodes. You can browse your collection by actors, directors, etc or go watch previews for the movies you have, all inside XBMC!! It's THE ultimate media center for people like you and me.

Sorry guys for the OT talk:o
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
So its already Monday the 25th in Australia we should see the links reposted real soon:cyclops:

http://ritchiesroom.com/2012/06/12/asus-transformer-infinity-first-look/
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
You know, any product is worth precisely whatever people are willing to pay for it. There's not some magical number that a product is "suppose to" be priced at. That's kind of a cornerstone of the very concept of a free market (i.e., a free society): people charge whatever other people are willing to pay. Charge too much, people don't buy it. Charge too little, many people buy it but you lose profitability.

Companies aren't "exploiting" us--they're giving us exactly what we're asking for. And, honestly, who are YOU to tell ME what's a good or a bad price to pay for something? Perhaps the product is just worth more to me based on how I'm going to use it...

Sorry for the mini-rant, but that kind of stuff just ticks me off... I know you finished with "everyone to his own," but of course that just contradicts your "exploitation" thesis.

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I believe the way it should work (and how I hope it works, and how it SEEMS to work from the screenshots we've seen) is that everything is the same size (or maybe a little smaller, since it's really 2.25X as many pixels, not 2X) but sharper. Personally, I think there's plenty of information displayed on a 10.1" Android tablet at 1280X800--I'd just like everything to be sharper.

I would NOT want it to work as it does in Windows, where text and such gets tiny and impossible to read. Sure, you can fit more on the screen, but it's that much harder to read. Better that sharpness is improved, particularly for text.

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Just FYI, in my opinion the speakers on the Prime were as good as the original Transformer, the Samsung Galaxy 2 7", the Excite 10, the Excite 7.7, and the new iPad. If the TF700 speakers are equivalent to the Prime's, then all's good.

I don't think there's much separation between tablet speakers. The simple fact that the two speakers are close together has not, in my opinion (having personally tested each of the tablets above), detracted from the quality of the sound.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Averybry:
Did you even look at the price? It's the same as the Prime. Asus did do exactly the same (only the price on the Prime hasn't dropped $50 yet)

It's also $100 cheaper than the iPad.

Asus doesn't need to convince people not to buy an iPad. If they want an iPad they'll buy one, whether or not the Infinity is $100 cheaper or $200 cheaper. The people who are going to go to the store to look at an iPad aren't going to realize that the tablet $200 cheaper is worth just as much. They'll just assume it's worth $200 less.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Underwater Mike:
I liked the diatribe about advanced design. Still doesn't explain why they put two stereo speakers side-by-side under one grill, on the back of the device. Stupidest implementation I've ever seen.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Dont quote me on this because we wont know for sure until more of them are in people's hands, but I dont think we'll have to worry. Android apps, at least for phones, have multiple resources so that they could easily handle screens of different DPIs. And while the A700 and TF700 are the first high DPI Android tablets on the market, any tablet optimized app that also runs on phones will have those resources because the phones at that DPI would need them. Obviously so would non-tablet optimized apps that would be scaled up. Tablet only apps might need to be updated if their developers weren't forward-thinking, but otherwise we should be covered.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Not seen any dead/bright/color stuck pixels sor far :-) I tried with the "Display Tester" app and found nothing

All the apps I had on the Xoom run the same on the Infinity except the image is better/sharper in most of the recent apps :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
You seem to be on a personal mission here as you´re taking this too personal. If you did read my post I was only generalising. All the same, since you brought it up, I would say most of your points are mute.

No one is stopping you from buying it, so it´s your problem how you feel, but you should be tolerant enough to accommodate the views of others.

Am happy you don´t feel exploited:laugh:. Hell I would even get one but ONLY IF I feel the price-quality is worth it.

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The thing is there have been many price tag flying around here. If you read my -innitial post carefully, i was referring to the $700-750 pricetag that has been mentioned (with users having no qualms with it). I did said i will wait to see what the official price is...I have no interest in Apple product never had and never will:laugh:
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
mexico prime 800 dollars.... ur guys are not being exploted
[Asus Transformer TF700] vbman213:
After looking at the Androbench scores that were posted a few pages back, it is very clear the the Infinity is also plagued with the same I/O issues that are found in the TF201 and TF300. This really is a shame.... Considering the audience that these devices are marketed towards, it's a shame that ASUS can't get the small technical issues worked out.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Underwater Mike:
Infinity looks nice, but I still think I'll wait to see what the Nexus tablet turns out like. Screen size on that is too small for my tastes, but given the cost differential I can prolly make do.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Digital Man:
You can bet that the 4G/Krait version will cost somwhere around 800 dollars for the 64GB version, but will be magically reduced to exactly the same price as the WiFi if you take a 2 year data contract at purchase.

Too bad, because I think this has the potential to be the best tablet available if it would just drop the Tegra 3.

If I knew for sure that it was going to be available in the US in the near future, I think I might wait, and consider the data contract just to get the Krait.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cavkic:
Could all of you ranters here please stop with it? Srsly, there are many members whose opinion I respected before, but now they seem just like babies -you don't like the product -you don't buy the product. Go buy yourself something you like, God knows you have a big enough choice.

To all of you who are complaining about the placement of speakers: If it's such a BIG deal, and you MUST watch it in bed in stereo (oh the drama), just connect the tablet to an old set of PC speakers (the white ones, you know the ones you have stashed somewhere in your closet, I know I'm gonna :good:), or just buy a set of bluetooth ones, our friend here says it works flawlessly.

As far as the so called I/O problems go, dafuq 'you talking 'bout, you'll still have the most powerful tablet money can buy (arguably, but still more raw power than the ipad). Or if you just can't live with that fact, man up and buy the krait version.

In my country there's a saying roughly transmitted: "The music plays as much as you've paid."

Please can we turn the tensions off now as we wait out these final hours for definitive info? I know it's hard, but try.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Digital Man:
Are these I/O issues unique to ASUS tablets or Tegra 3 tablets in general? Has anyone benchmarked the Acer a510 or the Toshiba Excite 10 and found similar issues?
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I posted my scores earlier in the thread on the Excite 7.7 I'm reviewing, and they're better than the TF700's. Still not great, but significantly better.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Whoa...pipe down, the sole purpose of a forum is to share ideas, opinions and tastes. If someone has issues with a specific part of a product, he/she should be able to share with others, not as if anyone is forcing anyone to do his/her bidding.

What do u expect that everybody will just start singing praises for a product? It´s discussion like this that tend to sway people in one direction or the other so honestly speaking, I find it ok. If you don´t, then just spring over the post and go to the next one. But for as long as the discussion is civilise enough, we should all express ourselves and share opinion.