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[Asus Transformer TF700] rwniel:
Also, higher resolution display in the same amount of display area means higher pixel density/smaller pixels. Smaller pixels means a smaller aperture for light to pass through - to compensate manufacturers generally have to use stronger backlighting. The iPad reportedly uses twice as many leds, though it's interesting that Samsung were suggesting significantly lower power consumption for their prototype greater-than-full-hd 10" Pentile displays when they were initially discussed. So I assume these aren't yet ready for commercialization or the improvements are exaggerated.

Robert
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
there actually has been no talks or mention, from Asus, of the tf-700 aka Infinity pad even coming to American shores yet or if at all. We will have to wait and see what develops.

also latest news show the wifi only version will be available first in Europe or overseas. possible delay of the LTE version. the delay could be due to reports a while back of manufacturing issues on the S4 Krait chip. Production was halted on those chips for whatever reason as they had to figure out the problem. I would think production has resumed since then but they might not have built up significant numbers of the chip yet. There were tech articles on the web about it. I posted about that over a month or so ago.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
The One S which uses the chip has been available for a week internationally and launching on April 18 on T-Mobile where it will sell in large quantities. If the Infinity's delayed it's not due to the chip.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
If was just video output, even the 4430 in my Razr can handle that to a display. The issue is the gpu is doing the math and geometry calculations for those pixels. That function is what drives the main need for power and heat. If not, the A5 in the iPad could have been used for new iPad, since supports 1080p for video. The same logic can be applied to the video chip in a smart Bluray player, since they display 1080p, but they would suck for game graphics.

Not seeing the Tegra 3 with the current gpu design driving the 700. Makes no sense, just as having the A5 instead of the A5X in the new iPad. The GPU needs to be a lot more robust.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Why? Isn't a video just video output? You're saying yourself that for video it is just fine.

It will be a problem for 1080p games. Those do not yet exist to my knowledge.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
The problems with the Krait chip were due to the 28nm process used in fabrication. Still a new and much smaller fabrication process to be steady with chip yields and avoid high scrap rates.

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The Anandtech review article on the new iPad and the gpu needs for the high res display for data driven tasks explains it best (if just scaling current lower res apps, you are right, but that would be blurry). In short, it is not just video and the processing impact is exponential as you increase resolution.

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I do not think there is an official spec of the SoC being used for the 700 either.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Sure it could. Qualcomm could have simply allocated most of the available stock to HTC. They could have decided that shipping the S4 on an HTC phone is strategically more valuable to them than shipping it on an ASUS tablet.

I don't KNOW that this is the case, but then none of us here have the information to KNOW anything at all.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
The assumption is the same gpu will be used in the 700. Perhaps if one core was used to assist the gpu and clocked high, the chip could get away with it. The 28nm design should help to reduce heat if such a method were used.

Be intersting to see the actual published specs of the 700 and not all the spec guessing in the media. Even Asus stated at the tech shows the 700 was still a prototype. Added: That is fancy talk for no final bill of material for the parts.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Asus already advertised the wifi only 700 as having a tegra3 in it and the dual core S4 for the LTE version. wifi only version will use the T33 tegra3 variant

here is the proof on Asus official product page: http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
Think of it this way.

Video is you putting a printed picture on top of each other at given rate per second.

Gaming is you building a mosaic where each piece represents a pixel. You have to build each picture at the speed that allows you to put them on top of each other at given frame per secong.

Which is more demanding?

Apps and home screens are a bit different, they use tiles and then put them together in the picture.

Not exactly correct analogy but it should give you an idea.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
RL Benchmark (SQLite) and Androbench (I/O) results

1a) RL Benchmark (SQLite) / interactive governor / balanced mode (= 1,5 GHz max.)

1000 INSERTs: 80 sec

Overall: 116 sec (in the previous tests I saw 140 / 115 / 109 / 108 here)

1b) Androbench / interactive governor / balanced mode

Sequential Read: 19.92 MB/s

Sequential Write: 5.83 MB/s

Random Read: 5.57 MB/s, 1426.83 IOPS(4K)

Random Write: 0.24 MB/s, 62.94 IOPS(4K)

SQLite Insert: 13.29 TPS, 22.57 sec

SQLite Update: 12.26 TPS, 24.45 sec

SQLite Delete: 13.72 TPS, 21.86 sec

Browser: 883.5 msec

Market: 2936.0 msec

Camera: 4593.0 msec (!)

Camcorder: 4536.25 msec

Before I got better results for the last four - many different results actually, for instance 1361 / 761 / 2467 / 3813 within the balanced setting. What's even more peculiar, I was able to get 533 / 765 / 959 / 2271 msec in the POWER-SAVING MODE while trying to play with these today!

2a) RL Benchmark (SQLite) / performance governor / performance mode (= 1,7 GHz max.)

1000 INSERTs: 62 sec (58 before)

Overall: 100 sec (87 before; 93 while repeated now)

2b) Androbench / performance governor / performance mode

Sequential Read: 20.38 MB/s

Sequential Write: 4.78 MB/s [I get twice that in other benchmarks even in the balanced mode, while the reading speed is only slightly greater]

Random Read: 6.54 MB/s, 1676.76 IOPS(4K)

Random Write: 0.28 MB/s, 71.88 IOPS(4K)

SQLite Insert: 15.18 TPS, 19.75 sec

SQLite Update: 15.64 TPS, 19.17 sec

SQLite Delete: 15.36 TPS, 19.52 sec

Browser: 537.75 msec

Market: 898.5 msec

Camera: 892.75 msec

Camcorder: 2023.0 msec

Please tell me if you need more specific SQLite Performance data from RL Benchmark or any others.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Mmm, that's good enough.

Do you have lag & etc during use?? How's your dual-thread Linpack benchmarks? Is it inconsistent like video previews??

It seems Infinity 700 is just as incompetent as Prime (except... with DD3 & increase in clock CPU to 1.7 in performance has slightly improved the performance).

For example, when you transfer files... how's your data speed? Do you also notice hang-ups and etc?? Disappointing how the I/O performance is piss poor.. sigh

Edit: I need to check if Infinity 700 is using same eMMC storage as Prime (btw, Acer 700 and Toshiba Tegra 3 tablets have just as poor performance in I/O... Acer 700 is absolute nightmare in performance =/).....
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Yes, I get "inconsistent result" notices in Linpack all the time in the balanced mode!

But everyday use is fine. It lags the device to death while installing apps, but I had this with every Android device (haven't owned SG though). In normal use there are little to none lags in browsing while using Chrome in power-saving and balanced modes. Everything seems to run smoothly when there is nothing slowing the device down.

I had huge hang-ups while downloading two big files by BitTorrent. Haven't done much copying from SD to the device, but the reading speed of the SD cards is quite good (30-32 MB/s), which doesn't mean much when writting speed on the internal storage is closer to 10 MB/s. Will give it a try in the following days with some more copying from the cards.

In general, I am happy with its performance, but I won't be downloading many torrents on it etc...

Linpack gives me 55-59 / 50-100 in the balanced mode and 60 / 100-130 in the performance(x2) setting.

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How much do you think this is storage-dependent and how much can it be Tegra-dependent? (what I mean is - is there any hope for those waiting for the S4 version or ASUS should just try totally new eMMC and firmware?)

Edit: The scheduler has to count too of course (just about to try the SIO scheduler), but I am wondering about the above.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
Androbench still tries to benchmark wrong filesystem though.

It's only two choices are /data and /sdcard which ofcource is quite useless on the Infinity as it has multiple sdcards and can even have usb storage mounted via dock's USB slot.

Edit:

I did however try PassMark PerformanceTest Mobile.

It has internal and external storage tests.

I ran it multiple times and it shows the same on both.

Listing system info it sais removable storage unavailable, and sais it uses /mnt/sdcard as path. Again, useless to bench with.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Switching to SIO scheduler instead of default cfq will help but that doesn't actually solve I/O performance.

As for eMMC storage.... HTC One X and other Android tablets use same storage without any hiccups. It really has a lot to do with piss poor kernel & drivers used by Asus I believe.... + factor in Tegra 3 & Nvidia's piss poor support in releasing kernel/drivers to open community.... I doubt we will ever fully know.

Btw, I am not a big fan of Tegra 3 (gosh.. so much wrong with this SoC)..... so, I could be bias against it.

Edit: Look at this benchmark for Nexus 7... look at I/O #s... it isn't that good.

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Screenshot_2012-07-04-13-24-30.png

Btw, did you notice any screen flicker/artifact and etc yet? It seems to be ongoing problem for pretty much all Tegra 3 devices (yes, including HTC One X & even Nexus 7... those who got it early are already reporting it).
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Not really, but I may just not have given enough attention to it. I have seen something which I believe to be dynamic contrast though..

I would prefer the S4 chip too, but I needed the tablet for holiday, so I think many of us will just have to wait for the unlocking tools and custom kernels/ROMs in the following weeks hopefully (it was quite fast for the TF300).

On the image you posted I see only the old Nexus, not Nexus Tab.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/05/nexus-7-review-the-android-tablet-rebooted/ <-- Nexus 7 review. Image I linked earlier is Nexus 7 benchmark
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Oh sorry, I was looking for the name, and you meant "Your device" ;) They did not say if they used the highest speed unfortunately.

BTW, I am still wondering why SIO seems to run better for some, as noop is the default scheduler in TF700 and it had some good press too..

Edit: See the results for SGS: http://oi52.tinypic.com/2wec6dk.jpg (originally from http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-1176334.html)

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Now this is disappointing... after loading the SIO scheduler:

3a) SIO scheduler, balanced mode: 84 sec (1000 INSERTs) / 153 sec (Overall)

3b) SIO scheduler, balanced mode: SR: 19.56 MB/s / SW: 5.95 MB/s / RR: 6.02 MB/s / RW: 0.25 MB/s / 12.8 TPS / 13.18 TPS / 12.03 TPS / 1122 msec / 2141 msec / 3235 msec / 4014 msec

4a) SIO scheduler, performance governor & mode: 61 sec / 108 sec

4b) SIO scheduler, performance governor & mode: 21.6 MB/s / 6.24 MB/s / 6.39 MB/s / 0.29 MB/s / 15.3 TPS / 14.84 TPS / 14.9 TPS / 794 / 2942 / 4209 / 3294

...so sio doesn't seem so much better in benchmarks than noop. Perhaps there will be difference in 'real' performance.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KilerG:
Well this thread is huge. I read the past 20 pages or so...so I guess at this point I'm just waiting on it to come out in the US.
[Asus Transformer TF700] nooktablet:
so basically this tablet is worth the price (the 32 GB), and will be released in 16th July in the US?

is that correct? if so i think i'll wait for it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fatpandas:
so, i've been seeing a bunch of benchmarks about IO and whatnot so here's my question. How does it perform in real-life? Lets say i want to play a 4 GB 1080p movie from the sd card. would there be lag or skipping?

benchmarks are nice but if someone could answer this question, i would very much appreciate it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] phonic:
It is scheduled, as of now, to be released the week of the 16th.

I don't believe that will be a problem. It sounds like any of the lagging is on writes, not reads.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KilerG:
The only issue I could see would be that the SD Card is an incredibly poor class. But I think most classes are rated for HD writing/reading. I'm interested in the I/O benchmarks though....is this going to cause a lot of problems for everyday use? Like just copying to cards and such....am I going to be sitting for an hour transferring that awesome new 1080p video I just recorded? Or moving a movie from the internal to SD card?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
If anyone has both an Infinity and a Prime, are there any physical differences in build quality on the front of the tablet?

I just read through a thread in the Prime section about the dock cracking screens that has me a bit paranoid now and one of the posters mentioned the TF300 having thicker rubber around the display to possibly offset that. Since the Infinity uses the same dock, any fix would have to be on the tablet's end.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KilerG:
Unless you're slamming the thing, I don't think that you could really crack it...Heck if you really wanted to, you could slip some little slim rubber feet on the dock to be extra careful. I was also looking at getting one of these for mine eventually: http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Acc...ssories/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_TranSleeve_Dual/

But I might just cheap out and get a slip case that fits both the tablet and dock and leave it at that. I like that Transleeve, but I'm not too sure I would actually use it for what it's made for since the dock already stands up the tablet just fine.
[Asus Transformer TF700] n-j-f:
Sorry phonic you seem to have got us confused. I didn't call anyone pathetic. I was the person being called pathetic.
[Asus Transformer TF700] derstock:
Does anyone has some experience with a German online shop hoh.de? Are they ok? They seem to have the 64GB gold version without dock that I'm searching for.
[Asus Transformer TF700] reluttr:
Yeah the transleeve is more or less a iPad Smart Cover, except the folds are done a bit differently and it uses the dock connector instead of magnets. I think asus intended for people that had no plans of getting the keyboard dock to use it.

Anyways, I had no idea that peoples screens were breaking due to the dock. I had heard rumors of early batches of the TF700 making a pop sound if you pressed on the digitizer in a certain spot after inserting it into the dock, but this is the first time hearing about units actually shattering.

Has anyone heard of the TF300 having this issue? Because I imagine if Asus fixed the problem with it then they should carry the fix over to the Infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
I haven't done a lot of testing, but a 2.4 GB 720p mkv plays very smoothly. A 4 GB 1080p .ts format did play, but with some lags, but this may be due to the file format / unusual encoding. I'll try to play some other big files this week. After some more tests I can confirm that my Sandisk SDHC Ultra MicroSD which was supposed to run up to about 30 MB/s gives me mere 10/15 W/R (before the scheduler change I got 30 MB/s read, but this may be benchmarking error). Full size SD runs the fastest, but all these speeds should be enough for playing/ecoding movies.

Also remember that FAT32 can store only up to 4GB per single file, so you should reformat your card to NTFS in this case (which works OK on my Infinity).
[Asus Transformer TF700] netzkind:
Not personally, but Home of Hardware (hoh .de) has excellent ratings at sites like Geizhals.de (geizhals. de/?sb=439 ).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Svashtar:
Priceless :cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] delirii:
Good news for all the french buyers.

A new store is now referencing the TF700 with or without dock 32 or 64Gb with decent prices (499EUR 32 without dock, 599EUR 32Gb with dock & 699EUR 64Gb with dock). Unfortunately, there is no availability date.

w w w . materiel.net/tablette-tactile/asus-eee-pad-transformer-infinity-tf700-64-go-champagne-79134.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
I reckon 599EUR 32Gb with dock is pretty reasonable.

The point is that Asus are dicking around and not releasing the 32GB version until much later in the year.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fatpandas:
thank you sir! exactly what i was looking for.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
Since my glare screen is in lala-land with all the other accessories for the TF700T I decided to take one of the easily available ipad (sorry for swearing) matte guards and test it out.

To damage as little as possible of the silicone adhesive I used an exacto and cut from the adhesive side rather than the film side using a cutting matte for backing. I also cut a set of ports for the light sensor and front camera.

The length of the film is unfortunately too short as the camera and button ports on it now overlap the viewing area slightly. Untill I get my proper anti-glare film I can live with that...

I used the bathroom/shower trick to avoid dust and used the films self-adhesion to gradyally bond to the screen and actually managed perfectly, even if I say so myself, only to discover the film had two dings in it leaving slight bubbles du to sharp bending. Oh well, temporary it is...

The camera didn't want to focus on the screen without the anti-glare and focusing on the bar stool only left me with an overexposed image so you'll have to live with it. However the difference with the anti-glare is astonishing! It should have come with two of these in the package! It would havce cost them a whole dollar!

The after-pics tell the whole story, and this is definately useable outside atleast in partially clouded weather. (It's in Super IPS+ in both on-shots.)
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
A Russian owner reports perfectplayback of the following files:

BD-Remux 33.2Gb (.ts), media info:

Format: BDAV

Video: 1920x1080 at 23.976 fps, MPEG-4 AVC, ~26747 kbps avg

Audio: Russian: 48 kHz, AC3, 3/2 (L,C,R,l,r) + LFE ch, ~448.00 kbps avg

File location: SD card

Player used: Dice player

Decoding as shown by player: HW

BD-Rip 14Gb (.mkv), media info:

Video: 1920x800 at 23.976 fps, x264, ~12000 kbps avg

Audio: Russian: 48 kHz, AC3, 3/2 (L,C,R,l,r) + LFE ch, ~640.00 kbps avg

Audio: Ukrainian: 48 kHz, AC3, 3/2 (L,C,R,l,r) + LFE ch, ~640.00 kbps avg : Audio: English: 48 kHz/24-bit, DTS 5.1, ~1536.00 kbps avg

Audio: English: 48 kHz, AC3, 2/0 (L,R), ~320.00 kbps avg |Commentary|

Subs: Russian (Forced, Full, Commentary), Ukrainian (Forced, Full, Commentary), English (Forced, Full, Commentary)

File location: SD card

Player used: Dice player

Decoding as shown by player: HW

The latter also played over WiFi, but with occasional hiccups, most likely due to WiFi network being the bottleneck.

Also tested a heavy PDF (no-OCR scanned journal ~400mb) using ezPDF and RepliGo. Both fared nicely, but ezPDF had some lags when moving to random places, while RepliGo did not. However, the latter displays the page progressively (as in "JPEG progressive"), so ezPDF's delay may be caused by pre-rendering the target page. Also, in reviews ezPDF is usually praised for somewhat higher rendering quality, and Repligo - for speed, so the difference is ideological.

You better watch some british comedy shows such as Black Adder (priceless) or A bit of Fry & Laurie (equally priceless) to gain a full understanding of the subject. Subtle it may be, sometimes... Rather direct, most of the time.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gingi999:
Engadget has the 32gb lte 300t review up. most of you probably dont care about the 300 lte, but i figured it the 300 lte is out the 700 lte version should not be far behind. thats what i have been waiting for
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
After waiting for so long, it's really nice to see all four versions (32g, 64g, Gray and Gold) + both keyboard/docks being marketed on a U.S. based website, even though is says "New item, not available yet".

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=tf700&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma

We're getting close!
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
Thanks for posting that. I'm still holding out for some concrete news about the LTE version, myself. Hopefully it will have some solid news before my 64gb pre-order with JR ships.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I must say that is quite impressive! How much would you say it degreades the sharpness and brightness of the images on the screen? What brand did you use? How is it with regards to finger smudges and smoothness of swiping?
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
@xxxxxxxxx el Transformer Pad Infinity se ha retrasado, tan pronto como podamos concretar la fecha, os informaremos. Un saludo! ASUS_IB

The infinity has been delayed in Spain :banghead:
[Asus Transformer TF700] phonic:
And so it continues.....

Doesn't sound very "pronto" to me :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] carolek:
What is the bathroom/shower trick?
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
I used a Belkin MatteScreen Overlay for ipad2.

It comes in a cardboard flatpack with 2 overlays in it.

The fingerprints are not noticeable even with my clammy hands.

It does however give the screen an odd effect mostly noticable on smooth surfaces like white. It's like it interferes with the pixels somehow. Best to take a picture of it. See attached.
[Asus Transformer TF700] reddyxda:
You guys should try the bestskinsever dot com stuff. 14 bucks for the front skin of the TF201. After trying a few in the early days I settled on this one.

They dont have TF700 skin yet, but the TF201 skin should fit right?

I use this on my iPhone 3GS. Much better than the Belkin stuff. My personal preference over the ZAGG (smoother, goes no easier).

I am a noobie and probably cannot post pictures yet....

The bathroom trick: Steam up the bathroom to avoid dust/fine lint flying around and landing on the screen when applying the screen protector.

I personally use a nice paper towel (somewhat lint free - "Viva" brand in the USA) to clean the screen when applying it. Have not had to use the bathroom trick. Read the instructions on the bestskinever website, they work the best.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
This is going to be my primary use of the Infinity (150-350MB pdf files consisting of photos of the book pages). I have tried numerous pdf readers. RepliGo has been the best so far - punto. It does prerender pages too. It is just insanely quick compared to all the others (and compared to ReaddleDocs on iPad 2 too, which is actually pretty OK). I've left as the second pdf reader a quite new thing called iAnnotate PDF, which is quite fast too. I think I can recommend both, but RepliGo just blows my mind, it's considerably smooth even in the battery-saving power mode. I have bought and then uninstalled ezPDF, which was just almost as horrible as Adobe and other slow apps out there (I'd say the stock app for reading books is on the slower side, but not the slowest of them all).

Edit: ...and I didn't notice loss in quality, but the photos I'm using aren't premium quality when fully zoomed in either.