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[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
see the thing is, i have a working gps now with great results. my wifi works great through walls and barriers. prime looks better than new acer. i have awesome battery life. on the tablet and even better with dock.

so what you saying? lol I'm sure the acer is cool but acer is already known for breaking down alot. acer doesn't have the company and xda support like asus has. it having a tegra3 is the only reason i consider it decent.

like i said before, I'd recommend an Asus over acer anyday.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Screwedupsmitty:
To each his own:cool:, wish my TFPs woulda worked as well as yours have, it was a sexy device to hold. Almost about to jump on this 510 myself though, gonna wait till Bestbuy gets em in though so I can compare some screen quality to decide if its worth waiting for the a700.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
Any news on the release in the US?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
no. its only releasing overseas for the time being. if it does come to the u.s., itll be at least a month or 2 later.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ualdriver:
Did you guys see that the Transformer TF 300 is available for preorder at Amazon right now for $479? It supposedly ships tomorrow (Sunday). Makes the A510 vs. Transformer decision that much more difficult. It looks like they both have pretty similar specs with the Transformer being a little lighter and thinner than the Acer.

It is weird that I can't find it at any other retailers except a few Amazon vendors. Not even Amazon itself seems to have it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
479 vs TF201 499? What sort of pricing strategy is that?

Edit. Oh, vendors, that explains it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ualdriver:
Now the TF300 is showing $399 plus free shipping from Amazon itself. That seems like one heck of a deal, huh?
[Asus Transformer TF700] megamoz:
It also says "You may pre-order it now and we will deliver it to you when it arrives. " :confused:
[Asus Transformer TF700] ualdriver:
I just ordered a blue one, 32GB wifi, with 2 day shipping and it says it will be delivered on April 25.

It's replacing a Xoom so I hope there is an increase in performance, although I assume the screen will be about the same.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
Thanks. Do ASUS have an explanation to what is the reason for that?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
not that I've seen yet. I'm wondering why also? if anything, i think at least the wifi version will come here eventually. maybe Asus wants to see how well the infinity pad is received overseas first. things could change at any moment. so don't be surprise if Asus tricks everyone and release the infinity pad at the same time as overseas or shortly there after. Either way, its not due out overseas till june/July. also remember the prime was released in Taiwan and u.s. first before the rest of the world. maybe they are changing things up to see how it does overseas. then if any issues need to be addressed, they can fix them before u.s. release.

I'm still happy with my prime purchase and have no regrets and lucked out since i got a great working unit. i was an early adopter and got the good end of the deal. I've already been experiencing a great tablet since December. I'm satisfied with my prime enough that ill have no problem waiting past the 300 and infinity model. i feel comfortable with performance of my prime to where i can wait for the future tegra4 based transformer pads that will release q3 of this year or q1 of next year. there's even a newer tegra3 chip announced, the T3+, that will be used in newer tablets after 300 and infinity pad. technology scene is always changing so fast. Asus and Nvidia is where the cutting edge is at. my next tablet will have to be an Asus and have the latest nvidia tegra chip. Asus seems to be shooting for surpassing Samsung. At this rate of great tablets Asus is releasing, they should have no problem doing that. Asus likes to innovate and not follow ipad similarities like Samsung does.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
So does anyone know why there are only prices for the 64GB version without dock?

Surely people are much less interested in that than the 32GB + dock version?
[Asus Transformer TF700] QuiXilver:
I contacted Incredible Connection here in SA and I got an email from someone there saying that it will be here in late July.

Whether that was him being on the safe side I don't know.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
that fits well with my earlier predictions. june/july for overseas release. even later for u.s. release. that's if it even comes to u.s.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gunner1937:
If you have a logical mind:rolleyes: and if you also think thoroughly:cool:, you will be ready to bet that the Infinity 700 will be released before the Olympic Games the coming summer in the UK. The reasons are that first Acer, the competition, has already nicknamed its Iconia 700 "Olympic Edition" bound to be released way before the Games, and second this is the Olympic Games and in Europe from the Atlantic to the Ural mountains it means something:p

Now, Kid, go back to your toys:D
[Asus Transformer TF700] kidio007:
According to AnandTech, both the TF201 and the TF300T screens have 39% Abobe RGB color gamut. Do you guys think the TF700 will get the same CG, or do you think they will give it a little color boost to maybe 45%, to atleast get it up with the ipad 2 and regular cheap 1366x768 laptop screens?
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
Android tablets really do seem to be out-pricing themselves compared to the iPad. At the moment they do seem to be lower spec yet higher price. The only thing they have got going is that they are not Apple and the expandable memory.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sontin:
Why are they overpriced when they have more features?

Oh wait, it's not from apple so it must be overpriced...
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
In terms of features, the biggest plus many Android tablets have is that they have a micro SD. In terms of display (which IMO is perhaps the most important 'feature' of a tablet) many, including the upcoming Samsung Tablets, are behind the current iPad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sontin:
The Display of the prime is much brighter, much darker and has a much better contrast. It's not only resolution.

And yes, MicroSD, HDMI, Android and Tegra 3 (CPU, Videodecoding) are + points.

But people buying an iPad because it's from apple. So we why don't need to talk about overpriced.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Seraphious:
Transformer Prime wins hands down in my book and I tested the "New Ipad" in a bestbuy store its not all its cracked up to be
[Asus Transformer TF700] Arun01:
I'm sticking with the prime until windows 8 tablets come out.:cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
PC Magazine has an interesting article comparing the screen resolution Prime x Infinity. Example and link below.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400974,00.asp
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
I truly don't understand how people think 1280x800 is this penultimate screen resolution and that text, icons, pictures, & everything in general can't possibly look sharper or be improved upon at a higher resolution. Will 1920x1200 blow your socks off and make you orgasm on the spot? No. Will it be better? Yes.

For me, I read all of my textbooks on my prime because it's cheaper and more convenient. I also remote in to my 1080p laptop all the time. My textbooks are going to be significantly more comfortable to read and I won't have to worry about my desktop looking all funky after remoting in and having it scale back to 1280x800.

If your Prime's resolution is more than enough for you, then that's great! But don't denigrate others because an improvement in screen resolution suits their needs better. No one is obligating you into buying a new tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
I guess it would depend on what is playing :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
tf-700 resolution is sharp. but like the article said nothing major really. I can see how this will be better for reading but you will be straining more since text is smaller. So at a normal distance you hold the tablet you can't hardly tell the difference. even the article writer said he confused them. but hold it closer n you will see difference in some areas. bit how close to people plan on holding the prime to their face to see the difference. normal distance there won't be a difference.

if someone feels like waiting till and of June for it, I'd say go for tf-700 if you want the extra resolution and $100 increase in price @ $599. if you don't feel like waiting and satisfied with Prime resolution/display(which is great by the way) then get a Price for $100 less and have higher performance. even from videos shown with 3g/LTE S4 qualcom dual core tf-700, you could see slight lag when they were swiping home screens or going thru apps. current prime with tegra3 has no lag at all, at least on mines and videos shown. the wifi version of tf-700 that has tegra3 will be the higher performing version. that will be the one to get.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
Remember, the increased resolution is not the only difference on the TF700/Infinity. There is also the "improved" WiFi ;) , which is what I am really looking for
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
yes this is what they "said". but no tests or anything official has been conducted yet to prove that statement against a good working prime. like my prime has great wifi. plus after prime fiasco in beginning it would be very smart not to get a first unit of tf-700. hold back, have patience and read all the hands on reviews and tests conducted on it. to make sure every improvement claimed holds true. although my prime works great and have no regrets on purchase, ill never be an early adopter on any electronic device again. seems like no matter what the device is, first wave/shipments always have bugs or issues. these are cleared up in later shipments. like ipad2 and PS3 had a ton of bugs n issues when first released. iphone4 also. all those issues weren't fixed till later shipment batches.

if a person seen how this situation went down, the smartest move would be to wait till after release and see what all the tests, tech reviews, and customer reviews have to say. anyone who ready to buy it day one, will have no grounds to complain if they knew situation that happened to many here. patience is a virtue and will pay off in making your selection.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
Some more comparisons. I guess I don't get the logic against a higher res display. There are only two possible downsides.

1) Power consumption - If it uses 10-15% more power over a charge I guess that's important if you're constantly bumping up against completely depleting your battery. Personally, that's not an issue for me. Acer’s increased the battery size in the A700 by 35% so it’ll outlast a lower res model. I'm guessing other manufacturers will be doing the same thing.

2) Speed - unless you're a gamer I can't see how the higher res display would impact anything to the point it would be noticeable. If you're a gamer you should buy the TF300 anyway since it's the only one of the three Asus tablets with DDR3 RAM making it the fastest for gaming since memory b/w will impact performance more than CPU clock cycles. And if the benchmarks are lower and real life use isn’t impacted who cares.

Early adopters who bought 720P TVs said 1080P was overkill. 85% of 32"+ HD TVs sold last year were 1080P. With Apple moving to HD and Samsung supposedly following with their 11.6, HD's going to become an expected feature on high-end tablets whether we like it or not.
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
The writer mentioned that Android scales text an icons so that they are the same size, it's just the new ones draw with multiple times the amount of available pixels. Even if that were not he case then you just increase font size.

The other poster was right about the wifi tablet. I don't know what's taking Nvidia so long to add LTE integration into the Tegra 3, but Asus fragmenting the chipsets like that will ultimately never be a good thing. Here in the states I'll be fine, but that sucks for those across the sea. The improved wifi & GPS reception is a benefit any which way you slice it.

I also want to point out that having to draw that many more pixels will inherently slow down performance some. I don't dispute that. My argument arises solely when comparing screen resolutions ans nothing else.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
A "good" metal-backed Prime will never outperform a tablet with a plastic back that's got signal coming from multiple directions and its antennas optimized to favor the plastic panel where the signal will be strongest. The GPS equipped iPad2 gets far better Wi-Fi performance than the Wi-Fi-only model because it has an added plastic strip on it to improve reception. If Asus has gone to the expense of redesigning the back panel on their two newer devices I'd strongly doubt they wouldn't optimize the antenna placement at the same time. The Prime was a disaster in that regard and the redesign is an acknowledgment of that. So saying it won’t be better is the same thing as saying Asus is a bunch of idiots that don’t know what they’re doing. You can’t have one without the other.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Spidey01:
The better question is whether or not the WiFi/GPS performance will be improved enough to be worth the investment in the Infinity, or wait for the later generation, which may very well run Windows 8 to many peoples pleasure (if not mine).

I don't really care about the upped screen resolution as long as I can still see what I'm doing, and it's going to be more useful to people than it will be detrimental to. >= a 32GB Prime with WiFi closer to a TF101 would be worth something to me, especially if I wouldn't need to buy another dock. Everything else, well, Tegra 2 cut well enough for my "Tabbook" needs, even if some people don't like Tegra 2.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
Here's some good "real life" shots of the Infinity in Amethyst and Champagne. It looks much better than what they were showing at CES in January. More pics via the link.

We're also not the only ones questioning the Prime's future...

"It will be interesting to see whether the ‘original’ Transformer Prime will get discontinued soon. It’s been plagued by reception issues because of its all-metal back cover and with the 300 series out there it’s really not needed anymore. Of course Asus won’t come and outright say that it’s already planning to retire a tablet that got a (very) limited launch just two months ago and still isn’t in stock in many places to this day. But the Prime going away certainly makes sense to me."

http://www.unwiredview.com/2012/02/...sformer-pad-infinity-and-300-series-hands-on/
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
I get your point. the kicker is the tf-700 has the same metal backplate. only difference is a plastic strip up top. so its still possible to have metal effecting it. I think people are confused that tf-700 has a plastic back..lol. that's why I said the smarter people will be the ones who wait after release to see all the official tests on it. instead of going off assumptions, then be an early adopter of it, and be very pissed if it does have issues. first batches of tf-700 will have issues on some units. whether its wireless issues, no one will know until a good tech site tests it out + customer reviews on wireless performance. that's the point I'm trying to make. nothing is guareenteed.

I know after seeing what others went through here, ill wait on any future tech devices. lmao

plus it be like spidey said. won't be a matter if wireless works or not. more of a matter if the improvement and extra screen resolution isbworth the extra$100 price hike. that will be the real determination. as you said before, tablets up in this high price range has very liitle market share. the lower priced tablets will be the ones to sell the most.

only apple can price tablets high as a mofo n still sell several million in a day..lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the G-Tab. Based on where the Infinity's plastic strip is, assuming Asus follows a similar path, it should be fine.
[Asus Transformer TF700] 3rdamention:
Waiting for tech reviews would be smart, however, I didnt see any professional Prime reviews mention the poor Wifi, non working GPS, or BT causing WiFi issues. The tech reviews all said the Prime was great.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
OK read my post again as I edited it and added more on what I think will really matter in the end.

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very good point. even more reason to wait n see what the consumers here say about it. you know once it gets in a members hand, it will be nit picked like crazy to make sure everything is working. good point though, you right. maybe the best/most accurate reviews will come from xda members. we know what to look for after seeing situations like prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
This was all it took to improve Wi-Fi on the iPad2...
[Asus Transformer TF700] krifos:
Is it just me, or isn't GPS even on the spec list for the new Pad Infinity?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Moothead2:
Is the Snapdragon Dual-Core CPU better than the Quad-Core Tegra 3? It appears as though it's upped the resolution but downgraded the CPU, something which makes no sense.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
its not listed at all for any of the new models on official Asus website. it might just be a bonus feature. not one they not trying to advertise really. especially with God situation that happened with prime

the wifi version of transformer pad infinity will still use tegra3. the LTE version, which isnt even announced tl be released in the states yet, only Europe so far, will have the dual core. the dual core is higher clocked. as far as which one is better, its up for debate. some will show benchmarks in favor of snapdragon. some will show in favor of tegra3. tegra3 will be better for multitasking n gaming. the snapdragon has LTE radio chip built in and that's why they using it for the data connection one. IMO tegra3 will be better. its more capable being quad core. dual core seems a step backwards to me. plus to consumer also. that's why most coming in asking why they taking a step backwards with dual core.

regardless both versions will be good. IMO a waste to get data connection version when everyone is tethering now-a-days. all it will be is another bill added. if I have a phone with data connection already, I'd rather just tether. its all about choices though. which ever you would like. plus that LTE version will be very expensive. cost alot more than wifi version with no real benefits except a data connection.

also tegra3 will have better battery life.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Moothead2:
Ah, my bad. Didn't see the second part on the specs when I glanced over it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
@RobertCWebster No release date is yet available in the UK for the Infinity. When we have a definitive date, we will announce it on here!

Had to ask
[Asus Transformer TF700] bitxejo:
battery & display doubts

Hi,

I am going to buy a tablet: is a fact :D Now, I have read a lot about prime & infinity & tf300, i still have doubs about it...

Infinity gives a better display accuracy, but, does it really sense in a 10,1" display?

And, how much battery time does this better display means?

I also read that Infinity battery life is worse than prime... so, the big question for me about this two tablets (besides cpu power & etc, because 1920x1080 will have poor results compared to the prime and 1280x800) is:

is the better display worth the worse battery life?

I mean: you want a tablet to stay far away your table with your PC... so a good battery life IS important. But I don't know if a better display is a better option...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Higadeb:
Apparently the TF300 is coming to the UK in May & will cost £399 for the 32GB + Dock. So there is hope for an infinity tab + dock bundle for those who prefer that to the 64GB no-dock option.

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I'd say display is more important. I mean you're going to be looking at the thing the whole time! And the battery life isn't exactly poor. Even if you only manage squeeze 7hrs out of the thing that's still plenty of time. Plus don't forget the dock has its own battery so will boost life again.

Basically, don't fear the battery life of the infinity. It'll be plenty :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] bitxejo:
:)) thanks!
[Asus Transformer TF700] gmguk:
Well here's hoping that the Infinity will be out in the UK soon after the 300 then!:)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
I really hope so. I think most people will prefer the dock version. That's why it's a transformer anyway.

Are you sure about the 399 pounds? In Holland it costs 500 euros including the dock. Even when taking exchange rates in to account, that is a huge difference.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Higadeb:
Yup, defo £399 (well apparently). Not really that big a difference is it? According to good old Google £399 ~ 490 euros...
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Heh, you are right.. guess I had the conversion totally wrong.

My fault!
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
Some more Tegra3 vs Snapdragon4 tests (some russian site):

http://android-on.ru/2012/04/23/обзор-nvidia-tegra-3-против-qualcomm-snapdragon-s4/
[Asus Transformer TF700] tixed:
You may be interested in this.

Release date in Europe - 10 June.

http://notebookitalia.it/prezzi-uff...adfone-transformer-pad-300-e-700-14493?ystfuv

(if google translate that correct)
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Wow ...lmfao. tegra3 killed the S4 in those tests. I'm not surprised though, ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tixed:
Yup, not surprisingly. Also, One X has HD screen, while One S only qHD which means Tegra 3 has to push 77% more pixels (in tests where this matters, i.e. most of them).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Johnny0906:
I heard from a local shop that it was gonna be here around end of May.

Can't wait to get my hands on one of them badboys :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Here is that site translated with Google. Tegra3 won this battle over Qualcomm S4 Snapdragon hands down. It won like 5out of 7 benchmarks. All the major ones.

http://translate.google.com/transla...2%D0%B8%D0%B2-qualcomm-snapdragon-s4/&act=url

This is actually the most recent and current benchmark battle to date.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Quite awkward that there is no mention of the 32GB + dock version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tixed:
I've read it in my native language (russian), so I can clarify any details if you need them (like about pixel count that I've mentioned, it was in the article). I'm better than google translate ;)

The only test that Tegra 3 lost a bit in Quadrant (which isn't telling anything, in fact, because it's pretty random) and some JS web browsing test.
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
As it happens JS performance is the one thing affecting loads of primes when browser crashes. So, yeah, while it beats s4 on bench, s4 is still more likely to deliver better day to day experience.

/me off to read that bench test, as Russian is my first language too :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
how multilingual you are, hehe
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
:) Russian, Lithuanian, English and i can swear in Polish :D (and speak a bit of it too)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tixed:
Strange - after that news for Infinity release date in June on that italian site (and few russian ones) there was no further info on other major tech news sites. Or maybe I'm looking at wrong ones :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Don't you folks think it is quite tempting to buy the 300T now? It has just released.

> 100€ cheaper

> Available right now.

I'm in doubt.. :) Especially because they are so vague about whether they are going to sell the 32GB + dock version for the same price as the 64GB version (which is the case with the 300T)