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[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
Well. I've gone through 8 tfp's, so I've seen all sorts of screens on them. So after being fed up with Android tablet makers not delivering I just got myself iPad2. Does everything I need and does it well. Web browsing is just another league, (yes yes no flash, but JavaScript is on and that is what is causing most of the problems with tfp browser), has decent video players (yes 4:3 is limiting, but I can live with it. The rest of it would be annoying if I was to use it to do something productive. Sharing is non existent, no productivity apps. So basically it's a pure consumption device, and I treat it as such. Anyway.

Back to the screen.

IPad2 screen beats any tfp screen i've seen hands down. Better viewing angles, better colours, and almost as readable in sunlight as tfp, almost. No light bleed at all, beautiful blacks. Then I had a look at new ipad screen. It's even better, and that is before you even take into account beautiful resolution. So, if tf700 going to have screen as dull as tf201, it will be sad.

Regarding someone saying that resolution doesn't matter. Well, that depends solely on the holding distance. If you hold lower res tablet with your hands fully extended,you are unlikely to see pixels unless you are looking for them. But as this position is quite uncomfortable, you are more likely to have it a bit closer to your eyes. At that distance higher res really shines. While I have no problem reading text on iPad2 at any distance, but if text is smaller, I'd be much more comfortable reading it on higher res display.

I'm a believer in higher res since getting my qHD Sensation. It's unbelievable how much easier on your eyes higher res is. While I think HD screens are stupid on the phones (qHD or half HD would suffice depending on the screen) they should be default on 10" tablets (or even higher like ipad).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mafiatounes:
We will see how the screen will perform on the Infinity when it's out, resolution seems ok, but i hope color accuracy is good and black is black.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
What about NITS ??

How much emphasis do you guys place on the brightness?? The TPI has a nits of 600, whereas the IPAD has a nits of about 400. I would think that difference is noticeable.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
it is very noticeable. Plus if used indoors on superips+ mode, the colors and screen pop out more with details. it looks better. Infinity pad will have superips+ like in the prime. so a huge advantage for using tablet outdoors or if you want the best looking display.

on my prime i usually cut superips mode on and have it on the lowest setting. this looks better than if that mode is off and i have to cut regular brightness up. superips mode makes the display look so much better. colors and everything.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
There's a very good reason why they went with 2048x1536, overkill or not (I love that they're pushing forward on the pixel race, the rest just need to follow up on that. ASAP!).

2048x1536 is 4:3 format, 1920x1200 isn't. They both have their pros and cons.

It's just not the resolution though, the color reproduction on the new iPad is really, really good. Anyone who says the new iPad is overkill, there's no use for that kind of display etc, should go try one in a store and see for themselves. It is one of the best display's I've ever seen.

And seeing how tablets are pretty much a giant touch display to most people, guess what most people will go for? That incredibly sharp, shiny display of the iPad or the 1280x800 (or even lower for some!) Android tablets, often just regular LCD panels with poor viewing angles? It's a no-brainer for those who just wants to surf the web, read their email, ebooks and play Angry Birds. I don't think the ~100USD price difference between most Android tablets and the iPad is enough, to be honest.

The display is so good I'm almost tempted to get an iPad, but while the hardware is great, I'm no big fan of iOS. "It just works", yes, but it's also boring and limited. Not having regular file access is the one thing that really annoys me.

Anyway, enough ranting, my point really was: Come on Asus, Acer and whoever else have announced a high-res tablet this year. Get them out on the market, preferrably yesterday!
[Asus Transformer TF700] je55ter:
I'm well aware of how it works when you render the same font size at a higher pixel density. I only mentioned the smaller fonts as its the only case I could think of where a higher resolution was necessary to actually render the text legibly.

If you were to tell me its purely a matter of aesthetics, I could at least understand that, though I would think its a bit silly to be so concerned about how pretty the text is when its the meaning of the text that matters.

But instead you're saying its a matter of comfort... Okay... I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. I certainly can't say I understand it, as I've never felt the slightest bit of discomfort reading any reasonably legible text regardless of how aliased/pixelated it looked. The only reason reading the bottom row of an eye chart may be a little uncomfortable is because of the size of the text and the need to squint/strain your eyes to make it out. As long as the text is large enough and uses a reasonably legible font, I simply can't comprehend how making it prettier would make it any more comfortable/easy to read.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Also, I currently have a movie of 3 hours in 1080p on my PC and it is 65GB big. This is too big to fit on either a SD card or the tablet.

Sure, you can compress it and use all kinds of codecs, but then the video won't be as pretty either.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Really, and what magical source does this 1080P movie come from with a larger file size than a dual-layer Blu-ray? Just compress it down to a reasonable file size so you can put it on the SD card. Chances are you'll enjoy the movie nonetheless, despite minor quality differences. Leave that most likely oversized original file on your computer :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
That seems way too large for a 3 hr video.
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
Ah, gotcha. If it doesn't just gel with you while trying to comprehend the idea over message boards/written text, then I don't think anything could convince you otherwise outside of experiencing it for yourself.

It's not to say that reading on the Prime is discomfortable, rather it's that reading on higher res displays is much more comfortable.

Also, a key point is that the Prime's screen is a 16:10 aspect ratio instead of the more natural for reading/papers/etc. 4:3. This means if you look at things in a non-zoomed in, non cropped (like a PDF or comic), most images are going to fit to the width of the device in portrait orientation and have letterboxing above and below the image. This means that the text contained in this image is going to smaller than the average 12 pt. font as well, leaving the smaller sized text with fewer pixels to draw = more aliasing. Seeing as I read my textbooks on my Prime, and most of my textbooks are either PDF's or propriety images of sorts, being able to read text both legibly and comfortably without having to zoom in and pan on every. single. page. is an extremely desirable outcome for me. Now, that's a personal usage case, but the comfort derived from a higher res screen in this regard would apply for everyone across the board.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
Remux the video and rip out the unneeded 10 audio tracks and subtitles that you won't need and you will save a few gigabytes at least. You won't need lossless DTS-HD, DTS audio tracks anyways neither the languages you don't understand.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
As i remember, there was some uncertainty about whether the Infinity will be having DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. So i was reading customer reviews of TF300 on Amazon and one of the guys wrote that TF300 has DDR3. So TF700 should for sure have DDR3 as well.

http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T...e=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addThreeStar

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT2O-CD9Ga4

This video show that TF300 has the same WIFI reception bars (2 of 4) as the TF201
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Sure, all possible, albeit time intensive.

My point was that you probably won't be watching 1080p video very often.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
Probably not, unless you're like me and keep all of your content available over your network and don't have to worry about it being stored anywhere anyway (other than in its OG location) :p One problem though is terrible upload speeds around here so I can't say the same for my content outside my network.

And I suppose it could be time-intensive depending on your build and the software you use. My machine can saw through some conversions and remuxing like it's nothing, just tell it what needs doing and walk off for a bit.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
that's not a sure shot. Asus official specs already had infinity pad aka TF-700 listed as using ddr2 ram. this was on their product chart of all their tablets. it could change but I wouldn't go off of some retailer specs because they get specs wrong alot. So official spec as of now is TF-700, that I've seen, is DDR2 ram. I wouldn't be too pressed about what kind it is anyways. Tech site reviews and benchmarks have shown the 300 ddr3 RAM has shown no improvement over prime ddr2. all scores still the same, memory wise.

now ddr3 would definitely help out the infinity pad more so. but as of now, from benchmarking scores, ddr3 has not added any improvement to 300
[Asus Transformer TF700] newellj79:
Use handbrake. Very quick. Very easy. Linux, Windows, or Mac.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
So the most recent release date we heard was 10 June right, in Europe (Italy) for the 64GB version?

Would that imply that the 32GB + dock version comes soon after or at the same time? And would this also be the date for the rest of Europe?
[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
{{ Use handbrake. Very quick. Very easy. Linux, Windows, or Mac. }}

I've been having fun with FreeMake in preparation for tablet ownership. For simple conversion, it seems to offer a reasonable compromise of ease and customization. There is also SUPER.

I'm anxiously awaiting the release of the TF700T. The TF700T is what I thought the Prime was going to be back when the Prime was first announced. What put me off the Prime was that I wanted more than a 1280x800 screen resolution. I had bought my wife a xoom back when it first launched, as an anniversary present. Its fun to play with, but I knew tablets were still being refined and I wanted to wait for something a bit more robust.

This thread has been a fun read, with many insightful comments. I hope to contribute going forward.
[Asus Transformer TF700] calypsoSA:
Hi. Been lurking a while but now have a reason to post. I enquired about the release date of the Infinity 700 on Asus South Africa Facebook page and they confirmed September 2012. I would imagine we would be close to Europes release, maybe a month to 2 later.

Anyways here is the link incase anyone wants to see, just scroll to the comments at the bottom.

Oh I see Im too noob to post links. Well check Asus South Africa, go to to the TF300 gallery and read the comments at the bottom.
[Asus Transformer TF700] vittogn:
Could the explanation be that the demand of roms is low?

And could be the reason of low demand be:

- close to vanilla Asus rom

- good amount of updates from Asus

- warranty voided is we unlock

- bad hw quality control (we want to keep our hw warrant live)

- lack of nflash
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
I saw that, I really hope the infinity is released elsewhere before. Am hoping for a July release in the US, that would be great.
[Asus Transformer TF700] calypsoSA:
Well I would imagine that SA would be getting the 3G varient, so maybe that explains the delay to September
[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
Yeah, a June-July US release would be ideal. I personally don't plan to get the dock (I tried it out and it was too small for my hands).

It was thanks to this thread that I found out the TF300t was available on Amazon. Thats whats frustrating me... months of silence and then all of a sudden, BOOM. At this point I don't care if they do the same thing for the Infinity, as long as they do it soon. If the Italian release is in June, then I'd expect to hear something about a US release in mid-May.

Then again, maybe it will appear for pre-order on Amazon on June 8th.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gmguk:
I'm hoping the UK gets the TP 700 soon and don't see why we can't get it before the US . . . . just for a change! ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
TF700 will release overseas first. then a month or so afterwards, It "Might" release over in the U.S. so if Italy is set for June. don't expect possibility of 700 releasing in U.S. till around July or end of June at earliest. that's if its even released in America as there have been no talks or mention of a U.S release at yet. so keep your fingers crossed ;)

how do I know, you may ask? lol. well I asked the right person about release date of the 700. I was told end of Q2 at best. so best case scenario is the end of June release. I'm guessing that's for overseas, as they will get it first. if it releases in U.S., it shouldn't be too Much longer after that, I would hope.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
I was reading and watching videos about Gorilla Glass 2, no doubts that it is flexible and strong. Is it any more resistant to scratches?

I have never had screen protectors on my phones as i'm usually cautious and the phones didn't have scratches yet, but tablet is a different story, because it is big.

I have 2 cats at home and I wonder if they could scratch the screen with their claws as it is quite possible to leave a tablet on a couch or table and these little pranksters might walk or run over the screen... And I know that if a cat sits on me and then decides to jump, it hurts to feel the claws scratching me :)

So, do we need screen protector for Gorilla Glass 2? Even if yes, I did a research and couldn't find any true leader manufacturer of screan protectors myself by judging on various user comments and reviews, ones are grippy, others feel bad, etc...
[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
{{I'm hoping the UK gets the TP 700 soon and don't see why we can't get it before the US . . . . just for a change!}}

Fine with me as long as its not too much longer. But part of me is very afraid we'll be holding the iPad 4 before any of these Full HD android tablets hit the market.

I agree with the comments that have been made over and over that when manufacturers play this game, the general population gets very tempted to buy an Apple product.

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I think you mentioned that "source" earlier in the thread, but did not provide any other information. It seems quite illogical to skip releasing the Infinity in the US... particularly when most of the other manufacturers are so far behind the curve. But as was said, Android tablet makers seem keen on gift wrapping market share right to Apple. I have no desire for an Apple device, but I could see the general consumer simply getting fed up with waiting.
[Asus Transformer TF700] garniemand:
Hi there,

might be premature to ask when there is not yet an "official" announcement - but has anybody already heard what strategy re bootloader they will run ?

Had the pleasure to (hard) brick my prime and while it will be no killer argument I still would prefer a fully unlocked bootloader for the infinity

tx
[Asus Transformer TF700] tixed:
I have a cat at home and TF101's 1st gen gorilla is pretty much nyan-resistant :) The only thing why you would need protector is matte one, to reduce glare (if you'd use your tablet outdoors often). But then it would be scratch-prone, as it's hardness is no match for reinforced glass.

May depend on cat's breed and weight though, lol. Hope you don't have ocelot or other wild cat, their paws might be harder than domesticated feline ones.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
I have 2 cornish rex'es, they weight no more than 2 kg i guess
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
very very very premature. i wouldnt count on it. no guarantee they will unlock it. they didnt unlock the 300. so if inifinity pad does get unlocked, at least 3 months or so after its release. like prime. but remember, they dont have to unlock it if they dont want to. they not legally obligated to do so. unlocking bootloader is likely at the very bottom of their to do list concerning the infinity pad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
Im sorry for this uninterresting post, but I WANT MY INFINITY ALREADY!!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
+1! 10character
[Asus Transformer TF700] IronSheik:
TF300 price drop to $379

Now $379: http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-TF300-T-B1-BL-10-1-Inch-Tablet/dp/B007P4YAPK/
[Asus Transformer TF700] babymatteo:
Dammit..i shouldve waited 4 more days...Could've saved $20 lol. :o
[Asus Transformer TF700] IronSheik:
call them to adjust difference otherwise threaten to return it....BH also has it for this price: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?sku=852329&Q=&O=productlist&is=REG&A=details
[Asus Transformer TF700] Silvia007:
So sick and tired of all these release date games...

I'm done waiting for Asus, lovely people... I mean come on, not even a release date? WTF!!! I'm going to Target right now and pick me up a Ipad 3. I just need a tablet so bad right now... Praise you Asus for making me get a apple device. No wonder Apple is kicking the flowers out of Android, all these hardware retards that back Android can't do crap right. I LOVE ASUS SOOOO MUCH!!!! I guess I'll get my android fix on my Razr... again another awesome hardware company... GET ICS on this THING!!!! DAMN, what's wrong with you plesant sun flowers!!!!!!!! I HAVE MONEY, DO YOU NOT WANT MY MONEY!!!!!! GODS!!!

Ok, sorry about that, I'm leaving now to pick up my Ipad... I'm just so happy now!

MOD EDIT: Really? You have so few posts and you have nothing better to do breaking as many rules in one post as you can? --> Post cleaned!
[Asus Transformer TF700] dmoney94:
I feel your pain................
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
he will be back..lmfao
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Although I would have expressed it differently, he does have an excellent point and I understand how he is feeling.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>he does have an excellent point and I understand how he is feeling

What's the point? That he behaves like a spoiled brat and throws around F-words? Or that he gets upsets because the world doesn't revolve around him and gives him shiny toys when he wants it?

Pray tell.

PS: Perhaps this would suit him better,
[Asus Transformer TF700] dmoney94:
IOS without jailbreak is garbage.....

He will be RUNNING BACK.............
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
Lol, I'm interested as well what this good point is.

I suppose the world should revolve around Apple? They have a hi-res display out now, so everyone has to immediately, literally right now, follow suit?

And apparently ASUS is the only manufacturer of tablet PC's other than Apple? That's why ASUS having a schedule for their products is somehow equivalent to them placing a gun to his head and telling him he better pick up that damned iPad?

I understand people need to vent and everything, I've blown up before and I've certainly been irked on the internet, but posts such as these are pathetic, useless, and downright don't need to be taking up space on these forums. It's one thing to have a useless hello or off-topic comment (like this whole post) but it's another to show up out of the shadows trolling.

Anyway, I'm getting real tired of not being able to see that new screen. I guess I'm going to have to buy one in a month or so.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jcompagner:
It's not that we should quickly do what Apple does. no there should already be many high res options Android tablets before the ipad3 did hit the market! that Apple is the first just annoys me, Samsung, Asus, Motorola or Acer should have released such a tablet at least last Christmas! The prime should have been the infinity in my eye's
[Asus Transformer TF700] gunner1937:
Very well said:)
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>I suppose the world should revolve around Apple? They have a hi-res display out now, so everyone has to immediately, literally right now, follow suit?

It's a value proposition. Apple's argument is that the display is the most important facet of tablet interaction, hence a better (higher res, better color fidelity) display = a better tablet. It's not the only argument, but it's an effective one.

If an Android vendor wants to argue otherwise, then it needs to come up with an equally compelling value proposition. Not one based on geek specs, but on actual use.

Win8 may be able to make an argument on the basis of being a "full" OS, hence its likelihood of being able to command a higher price. Android can't.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diamondback:
Fixed that for you...
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
I will take some time to explain. While I don't condone his communication style, I understand the frustration felt around this launch. Asus no doubt botched the Prime launch, it was a great concept, but no matter how it is argued, the device didn't work properly. The result is there are now many Asus customers, who returned the Prime, and are in the market for a similar tablet that just works. The 300 is a good option, but some prefer to have the longer battery life, faster chip, gorilla glass, super ips, etc. I don't fault Asus for the Prime debacle, they took a bold move being first to market, months ahead of competitors, for this chip / design, and unfortunately it didn't work as well as it could have, but kudos for trying, says great things about the company from an innovation standpoint. Where I fault Asus is all the secrecy / non-disclosure around release date for the Infinity in North America given the Prime debacle and capturing that group who returned the prime before they purchase another device. In addition to this group there are many more who wanted the prime but held off after reading the issues of the Prime. As dates have already been announced in Europe, this non-disclosure can't be a result of the device not being ready. If there is some real cause of uncertainty of the north american release date, just communicate that. Unfortunately for Asus, they have the Prime issue to make up for and cannot afford to act like Samsung or Apple with this tablet release.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
Very well said. That's why I got iPad2, it just works. Yes there are limitations, but I knew about them when getting iPad2 so my expectations were low. Because my expectations were so low, iPad2 actually exceeded them and proven to be an excellent consumption device and great value for money . With prime, it was other way round, it could potentially replace laptop and would have, should Asus not screwed it big time.

So, for me, best option is enjoy flawless operation of iPad2 for the time being and wait another 2 years before android tablets actually ARE what they CAN BE.

One annoying but not crucial to me limitation of iPad2 is lack of file system, but that will be rectified when jailbreak for it comes out.

Anyway, back to reading my book on iPad2 (damn, I wish I could justify another £110 for higher resolution)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ready2Mosh:
you should check to see if you got a 2.4 model, smaller die size chip inside and longer battery life.