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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] balorok:
A paperback book could do that? Thats actually very concerning to me as a consumer. I'm extremely cautious with my electronics (ask my wife, she will eyeroll ) and to have something like this occur without any strenuous contact being made with the phone is appalling.

First Samsung phone, and unfortunately will most likely be my last. It looks and operates flawlessly and was exactly what I wanted... but I can't for the life of me see spending that kind of money on something that can essentially break through such light use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
buy a replacement from ebay and fix it yourself. shouldnt be too difficult, I have replaced my iphones and my sensations screen and they pretty much were the same
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] balorok:
I tried looking on ebay for a replacement, but perhaps I'm searching for the wrong thing...

can you share a link?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] balorok:
After calling just about every ATT store in town and explaining the problem, I found one willing to exchange it for a new one no questions asked.

I'm still worried about the durability of the phone since nothing major occurred that should cause this amount of damage. Hopefully I just had a defective screen or something and this one will last me a long, long time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Timelord83:
i carry my note in my pocket (I'm a big guy) it rides in the front pocket all day was case-less for the first week i mean i worked played and goofed off with it there can't even tell. i think u just got a bad glass display it is mass produced product and defects do happen.

I myself was very impressed with the build quality of the phone how sturdy it felt despite its lack of depth. So i'd just be aware and keep ur books away from it ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] balorok:
should probably just start storing my books on the damn thing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Im guessing you just had a faulty screen. Gorilla glass can take some serious pressure, and is even pretty damn good at shock resistance. I've dropped my old captivate and infuse countless times without a case and never cracked a screen. Hell, last summer my captivate took a kick from a full grown horse when it was in my pocket, and the screen survived. The hoof hit the back of my captivate, bent the backplate and battery, but the screen was fine. It saved me from a huge bruise, that's for sure.

I think you will be fine with a new device, because it sounds like a faulty screen. Don't let one faulty Samsung ruin Samsung for you forever. They make great devices, and their screens are matched by none. Other manufacturers are just as likely do have a defective device, you just got really unlucky with your first note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] modiand:
I have already dropped my note face down on a corner (it was in a speck case and had a clear screen protector on) and knock on wood it was fine. It is very possible that its just a faulty screen. I would pesster the heck out of at&t and samsung til i got a new phone. They will budge you just have to be persistant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] canecbr600:
I am anal about my devices also, and the thought of just throwing it in a bag makes me cringe! Always front left pocket for me, no exceptions!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] greyhulk:
No offense, but if you stuffed your Note in a bag with a book or anything else, you're not really that cautious with your electronics. There's a reason I have never damaged any of my phones or tablets. It's because I don't do things like that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] balorok:
I'm not sure where you got the idea that I "stuffed" it in a bag. The bag in question was a messenger style bag with separate internal pockets, phone was in one, book in the other. Book was a paperback (you can actually see it in my photos) about 200 pages thick.

UPDATE:

Second phone screen cracked. Top of screen near the front camera. Had it less than 24 hours - took it back and they exchanged it again with no issues.

Got it at around 4pm, took it home, put it in case (SGP) and put it to charge, went to the gym and then came home and did some programming for a few hours before bed. Phone stayed on charger the whole time. Next morning I put (note: did not "stuff") the phone into my right front pocket of my jeans (normal jeans, not skinny or anything). It was the only thing in the pocket, had a wallet in my back right pocket and some disposable eye contacts in my left front pocket. Walked about 3 blocks to a lecture checked email on the phone - no crack. sat with it in the pocket (front right) for about an hour and a half, then got up and walked home. Got home took the phone out...crack! About an inch long from the very edge of the glass towards the middle of the phone.

I can't make this stuff up. Took it to the store and they replaced it for me again. Manager said something about maybe they got tussled around during shipment or packing.

Both cracked were white devices. The phone I have now is a black one.

I'm trying to think of reasons why this could have occurred twice. First time could possibly have been from being in the bag, but I wasn't throwing the bag around or anything like that. Second time? Who knows... if walking with a phone in your pocket causes it to break...

I am super thankful that I found a store willing to do the exchanges, and I do love this phone...but what the heck!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sailador:
LOL....this guy is obviously trolling
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] balorok:
I can assure you that I am not trolling. I'm trying to get to the bottom of an issue that I've come across with the phones I have received.

Could flex in a pocket cause this? Its the only thing I can think of currently. Temperatures haven't been fluctuating rapidly, haven't been dropped, hasn't been impact.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Sounds like pure bad luck to me. Either that or, like the At&t rep said, they could have been dropped in shipping or something and already been stressed and close to cracking to begin with. The use that you have described should in no way come near to breaking the glass, and it's pretty ridiculous that it happened to you with two devices from the same store. Flex in a pocket shouldn't be a problem at all, as with slow, flexing pressure, gorilla glass is very strong. You should be able to press on your screen as hard as you want with your fingers and not crack it (don't try though, just in case, haha).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
ook? can we help you somehow? what is your point? we can submit a petition asking samsung to make a smartphone made of steel only for YOU ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] balorok:
The point was to share my experiences with the Note. Maybe someone else has had a similar experience. Obviously *you* cannot help me, but several posters already have in this thread. Last I checked this was a "discussion" board, not a "question" board.

There really is no reason to be snarky.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jebise101:
maybe the case your using? Could be causing stress on the screen.

I had the original SGS which i gave to my sister and my 3 year old nephew does not let her use it at all (games on that thing all day, till it dies).

It has survived bite marks, drops anything you would think a 3 year old would do, so I can say Gorilla Glass is well worth it and you most likely got 2 bad devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] canecbr600:
The problem is something ur doing. 1 phone maybe, 2 nope, I don't. Think so. If there were lots of cases where this has happened. Thats a different story! I have not read any other case! I would drastically rethink the way I handle my phone if I were u!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Chief Geek:
I'd put my money on a faulty batch of phones or "glass" before I'd think they got mishandled in shipment.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eddie Bombay:
Gorilla glass my ass.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dhmtbykr:
I just found a crack on my phone, never dropped always gentle like very other phone Ive owned.

Happened literally the day after my 30 day period after purchase, I went to an att device center and they set up a samsung warranty shipment. I should have the new phone in a few days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] hawkeye2188:
This is really weird. My guess would be bad luck or there is something your doing that your not telling us. Like leaving it in your jeans and taking your jeans off and just throwing them into the laundry or what not and forgetting about it. Im at a loss to why two phones would do the same thing unless it is a bad batch. Did you ask the ATT if they had similar issues? Like alot of other people coming back in to replace their Note because of similar cracks?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rickstermar555:
Stop wearing skinny jeans.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cgibsong002:
Sounds like excuses you're publicly making to cover the guilt of breaking 2 phones and getting free replacements...

hah
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] funziebear:
i read somewhere cold weather can affect gorilla glass idk if that's the case but id try googleling that maybe there's some good info i think i saw it in the sg2 t-mobile section
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Cold weather will affect any glass, let alone Gorilla glass.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Batman_777:
Just a SideNote :)

The glass screen is about $75.00 to get replaced. Ask around your area for someone who replaces the screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tyler79durdan:
Trolling, imo, is hijacking someone elses thread with pointless garbage or instigatory statements. Maybe OP was just trying to inform or inquire as to the frequency(if any) of said fault.

I personally would never treat my phone carelessly. In fact, I put my phone up for several days after activation, waiting for my screen protector and case to arrive. I set my devices down on cloth or pillows next to my bed, check to see if it will slide, never set anything on top of it, never use near water(except sitting on toilet...lol), hold hand over device in pocket when standing over toilet, use 2 part cases, and am generally VERY cautious with expensive technology.

In my recent experience, I applied a gloss screen protector and found myself pressing fairly hard and flexing the screen for about 10 minutes, to get the bubbles out. Knock on e-wood, my screen is fine. Carbon Blue Note...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] srtpusher:
i bet tight pants + sitting down is putting flex stress on the glass and it is snapping in his pocket...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PaulF8080:
I have a bit of experience with glass and it some freaky material. First of all, it is a liquid not a solid. You can't store glass tubes vertically because they will get fat at one end. The liquid part is important because it has surface tension like any liquid. You break the surface tension and it cracks. On tempered glass, like Gorilla glass, a scratch in the surface will explode into a spider web of little pieces. I have seen the single crack when drilling holes with a diamond drill for a switch panel. Sometimes every thing would look fine and you would come back the next day and there would be a single crack in a few of the panels. I suspect there was a micro chip on the edge that wasn't visible. To me it looks like the phone cracks may have started from a small chip/defect on the edge. Just a guess. It sounds like the store had seen this problem before.

I dropped my phone on parking lot with sharp stones and I now have the spider web. [Another tip: The surface tension can be broken buy very sharp objects because the pressure per square inch is huge.] I found this thread searching for help. The ATT service center says ATT doesn't repair phones. ??? The service center said I should have purchased the warranty, but a salesman at the ATT store said the warranty didn't cover glass because it is considered abuse.

Where did the $200 estimate come from?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] pyee0124:
I'm more surprised that a phone deductible is almost as much as a vehicles(In my neck of the woods).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpg71:
A couple of snippets regarding these statements that get repeated often:

Glasses are amorphous solids. There is a fundamental structural divide between amorphous solids (including glasses) and crystalline solids. Structurally, glasses are similar to liquids, but that doesn't mean they are liquid. It is possible that the "glass is a liquid" urban legend originated with a misreading of a German treatise on glass thermodynamics.

Some people refer to antique windowpanes as proof to the glass getting thicker at the bottom over time, but while some antique windowpanes are thicker at the bottom, there are no statistical studies to show that all or most antique windowpanes are thicker at the bottom than at the top. The variations in thickness of antique windowpanes has nothing to do with whether glass is a solid or a liquid; its cause lies in the glass manufacturing process employed at the time, which made the production of glass panes of constant thickness quite difficult.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] over2land:
My girl cracked the glass on hers. We went to the ATT store... just out of the 30 day warranty. The guy at the ATT store called Samsung, and she was able to pay $197 including shipping to get it replaced. Sorry, but no idea of the number the ATT guy called.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cbass:
I'd be more apt to assume abuse/neglect than anything else. Maybe not intentional, and probably not something you'd expect causing it. But the likelyhood of two almost identical faults from phones that came on two shipments (assuming different stores, as you had to search for one that would help you) on two products in a row being the fault of the product is about as likely as winning the powerball. Not impossible, but I'm not going to put any faith in it.

Just saying, this is why I pay for that best buy protection.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] astang99:
Im another note owner with a defect that neither samsung or att will cover. The plastic bezel surrounding the phone is loose and makes a clicking noise if pressed. Att rep said that since theres a little chip near the charge port they said i dropped it. I have never dropped this phone and i have tried to explain that its exactly around where you plug the charger in so i think i missed the hole. Its frustrating since i baby my electronics...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PaulF8080:
I am 50/50 on what or who was the cause of the crack. It makes know difference what we believe. One salesman believing him is all that counts. The salesman gave a guess why phones(plural) have the problem so I lean slightly towards a known fault. The OP was very lucky to find a guy who believed him. It is extremely difficult to do a single crack line intentionally or accidentally, in my experience. Everyone at the small company I worked at had broken glass and I never blame anyone for breaking glass since then. I find it much harder to believe that some people say they scratched there glass without shattering it. Tempered glass is evil. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 21productionz:
I beat the hell out of all my phones. Multiple drops, usually from leaving them on my lap in the car, and I have never had a cracked screen. I did chip a corner on my HD2 once.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
Actually, my business partner's note has suffered the same fate. There was no "I broke my phone" moment and definitely no skinny jeans. Set it down when he got home, picked it up later and there was a single thin crack the length of the screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PaulF8080:
The Samsung $197 repair suggestion was helpful. The person on Samsung's chat sent me this message:

They took my info over the phone, billed my credit card for $197 and sent me e-mail with a printable shipping label for UPS 2 day delivery to Plano,TX on their account. They said 5 business days in Plano and then they will return with 2 day delivery again.

It turns out if you have registered your phone with Samsung, they give you a 1 year parts warranty. Samsung also does not cover glass. I wonder if they cover the mysterious evil single line crack. IMHO that can happen without abuse.

Luckily my old Captivate is backward compatible with new LTE sim from my Note. The new feature in Google Play "my apps"->"all" shows all the apps I have installed(even uninstalled apps) on both phones so I can move my new Note apps over.

---------- Post added at 10:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 PM ----------

I was told that in chemistry classes. I prefer to call it one of the many simplifications they teach in science. Technically what you say sounds more precise, to me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 00mred00:
Good to know...that plano facility is minutes from my house
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] magnum_touchpro:
man ive sat on my white note, dropped it on concrete from my lap. carry it everywhere in my pockets and havent had a crack.. thank god.. id be so pissed..

it could be faulty because i had a infuse that developed a crack out of nowhere also along the top of the screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] area4689:
so by all means you have accidentally bent the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tbran:
Man....me too! I have bounced my phone off asphalt from 3-4 feet twice now. I have dropped it out of shirt pocket while changing a lightbulb onto a granite countertop from 7 feet and routinely drop it to lesser amounts almost daily. I got it on the prerelease 3 months ago and not a single scratch on the screen or phone. And I don't use a huge case....Zenus Capsule. But definitely a tough phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] leerage:
All, my girlfriends Inc2 will not update the PRL. I've flashed the latest stock sense ROM on to it, did *228, and the PRL still stays around 30000 (not sure on specific number). I've noticed from other screen shots people's PRLs are up around 52000. She is still on an old Alltel plan and probably old Alltel towers still around here. I noticed on Sense 3.5 ROMs the locked screen and dialer will always say 31000 instead of Verizon Wireless. PRI is at 1.92_002.

Any suggestions or is this normal?

Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TheAtheistReverend:
A PRL (Preferred Roaming List) is specific to providers of service among other things. If you aren't on VZ plan, you won't have the same PRL as a VZ customer.

Are you having signal issues? What happens when you dial *228 and press 1 or 2?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] leerage:
Thanks for the response. She is a verizon customer, she is just has the same plan she had from when she was Alltel. I really haven't noticed signal issues for her per say, it's just I've noticed that her signal bounces around more after this latest radio update. I tried updating the PRL to see if that would make a difference.

*228 option 2 works, but nothing ever changes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jamor414:
I'm picking up the Nexus tonight. I've had the Incredible for almost 2 years now.

Is there anything that you ported over or did you start from scratch?

I suppose all of my contacts, calendars, and paid apps are tied to google and I shouldn't have any problem downloading paid apps (or will I?)

I don't want to do a titanium especially cross-brand cross-software, so I will just have to live with losing all the data in my apps.

Anything vital that should be done before cancelling the 3g phone?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkDvr:
So judging by the quick search, many people have this problem on many different phones, and no solution was found.

I know I've had this problem with my old SGS 1, and even Nexus One.

Same problem on my SGS II, tethering to many different desktops and laptops.

So it seems to be android-specific, or Windows specific problem, really.

Basically, when you tether with USB, first several minutes all is well and speed is good, but in about 5-10 minutes, traffic from the phone just stops.

Phone still shows tethering ON, PC still thinks it's connected, but nothing loads, it doesn't disconnect, it just drops to speed or 0 kbps.

The only way to restore it is to disable tether and reconnect.

Anybody has any idea why would this occur and how to prevent it?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Braidonh:
Does it say no internet connection on the network indicator on the bottom right of the notification center? My guess is your carrier has an issue with tethering. I see your on AT&T. Do they have a plan that is specifically for tethering?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkDvr:
No internet connectivity loss is indicated in windows, it still thinks it has a good internet connection. I'm assuming that after a while, it will detect that although there's a connection, there's no actual traffic flowing through it, and will say that there's an issue... but for a long time, it's simply as if I'm connected, but actual speed is at 0kbps.

Browser tries to load pages and times out in 10-30 seconds.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) this definitely doesn't have anything to do with AT&T. I have unlimited grandfathered plan with AT&T and a custom rom, AT&T has no idea that I'm tethering. Internet on the phone is still working fine.

I kinda feels as if the usb tether drivers in windows (RDIS or whatever it's called) simply gives up after a while. Or maybe it's the android tether process that "forgets" what it's supposed to be doing.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RorixRebel:
you are running a stock ROM right?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkDvr:
Nope, latest CheckROM.

But as I've said, I had same problem with Captivate and other ROMs on SGS2 =(
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RorixRebel:
i haven't found a custom rom where tethering fully works....thats why i went back to stock
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r3drox:
Have the same problem on BOTH my Huawei ideos U8150 and my HTC sensation.

My wirelessly tethered devices still work flawlessly but my USB tethered desktop disconnects after a few minutes. Screen time out set to Max in case something in the phone went to sleep but no difference. Definitely not a network problem as my operator confirmed but an android (or windows problem) .

I even set USB Port power settings to always stay awake.

Hope we can find a solution to this.

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DPSK:
i got the same problem under ICS. tried on stock ZSLPE and custom XXLPQ firmwares. both do not work!

my stock gingerbread was able to work flawlessly without disconnection problem on the same pc. wtf is happening?!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhijit_net:
I have Samsung Galaxy S Plus.

I am facing exactly the same problem.

Have tried different ROM's around 5, 3 were custom ROM's.

Looks like Android OS issue.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] listlessloki:
I had this problem on both my Samsung Charge(Stock app 2.3.6), and my Motorola Razr(Stock app 4.0.4). I believe it is a driver issue inside windows. It seems less of a problem on the Motorola phone as I get a few hours of USB tether before it exhibits the same problem whereas the charge started after a couple of minutes. ie. Phone has data and can access web, computer thinks its connected to the web and okay, but any attempts to connect to the internet from the pc fails.

The wireless tether works fine and does not exhibit the same issues so I would suggest you use wifi tether. I don't know if wifi tether uses more or less power than usb tether (assuming your phone is connected to computer and charging). If I get some more free time in the next few weeks I might try and do an analysis.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkDvr:
I've had this problems with pretty much every Samsung phone I had.

I have HTC One X now, and it doesn't have this problem. So something with Samsung drivers, I think.

Cool fact - HTC even has a one-click reverse tethering. So cool.