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[HTC EVO 3D] PoorCollegeGuy:
It's not about "following the rules", it's about respecting people for the sake of respecting people. You shouldn't have to feel the threat of moderation before you treat people like human beings. I only ask that you show some respect. If you don't respect others' opinions, how can anyone be expected to respect yours? Before you come back with the classic "i don't care what anyone thinks about my opinion", keep in mind that you posted here, meaning you wanted your opinion to be known.

On topic: I am just the opposite. I swore off of HTC when the Evo 3D came out, citing the 3D as "a gimmick" and that HTC didn't spend enough time on the phone. Went to Epic Touch, didn't like it, came back to give the 3vo a try and loved it. So that's opposite end of the spectrum. If you go back and re-read my OP, you'll see that it was far more fact than opinion (probably a 60/40 ratio). The only thing I expressly used my opinion on was Touchwiz vs Sense because there is no facts as to which is better.

The battery door is made to protect the battery and prevent damage in the case of falls. While it wasn't damaged, the battery door was unable to perform the task it was designed for, which was keeping the battery in the phone. Sorry cds, but that means the battery door failed the function it was designed to do. That only goes to back up the shoddy workmanship of the device.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
I stated my opinion and xhaus said "flamebait" I wasnt trying to start anything or disrespect anyone.. just turned into defending myself/opinion.. I wasnt derailing the thread just responding to others...

and I dont need a moderator threat over my head to respect people your the one using the words "condescending,mocking,repect" as if I broke some moral/xda rule...

Im done with that topic.. Lets move on and understand that I have an opinion that people may not like.. But please post in a constructive matter HOW or WHY you feel different rather than attempt to flame/troll/derail

And I simply meant most of the thing posted are opinions... Someone else would think differently so it doesnt make it fact...

Fact is epic touch has a more colorful vibrant brighter display,or the resolution on the 3d is qhd

Opinion (yours) touchwiz is ugly,sense is pretty.... Obviously you dont need a lesson on fact vs opinion but your op is alot of opinion based on experience.... Not visa versa which I enjoyed reading! most dont want a page full of stats... They want opinions/reviews which you did very well with! Somethings I dont agree with and posted why maybe not in the moat "friendly" way but hey its xda, not Dr.phil

Sorry for all that but on the "drop" topic I dropped my black epic touch from the pocket of my hoodie climing into my truck (about 5 feet from the pavement..) Only thing that happened was a minor scratch on the corner... No dents/cracks check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXOezJKpOsg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Edit dont watch the second video to this ;) he breaks it for reals

Back from my "scotsman vacation"
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Uggghhh the glory days of having 911snipers blog full of leaks for all HTC devices....really wish his site coulda stayed up....oh well
[HTC EVO 3D] PoorCollegeGuy:
tbh, the guy in the video dropped his phone on real pavement once and the battery came flying out :P the rest was on dirt/rocks which is a much less risky terrain to drop a phone from. The point I was making earlier was that the battery door is supposed to protect the battery in case of falls. If the battery is falling out, as it did in the video (the 1 time it was dropped on pavement), then the battery door is simply not doing its job. Yes, I image the phone can take some drops but there's no way it can take as many falls as an Evo 3D. It simply has better build materials.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
It's easy to misinterpret someone when looking at a screen full of text, so if that was not your intention than I apologize, but, I'm still at a loss as to how you got any of that other stuff from me simply asking, "flamebait?" If you have issues with any of the moderators you should send a message to the Moderator Committee, this is not the appropriate place to bring it up.

edit: just realized there was a page inbetween I missed...

It's a shame, HTC can't help but take one step forward and two steps back. They partially unlocked their bootloaders, but then cut off their leaks which muffled development and kills all the hype it use to create for their new devices. And now that they're trying to make everything more static across their product line, which should help development across devices, they turn around and take out features a lot of people look for like upgradeable storage or removable batteries.

Hopefully Sniper will be back sooner or later :(
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
Interesting, I just switched to the E4GT from the Evo 3D (owned for about 8 months) and am so glad I did. I can live without the immense dev support, because, frankly, I personally don't own a phone for much longer than 6 months to a year anyways. I much prefer the better screen, better camera, and faster performance of the E4GT. The higher resolution of the E3D display is the ONLY thing i'll miss about it. To each his own though, and whatever makes you happy.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
To be fair, the plastic back of the Epic 4G Touch is stronger than the EVO 3D's and can literally be bent in half and back without breaking and still keep its structure.
[HTC EVO 3D] ScrapMaker:
In my experience, you don't NEED a custom ROM on the SGS2 to have it work like it should. On my 3D, (and all other HTC devices,) I REQUIRE custom ROMs just to get by.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
True but with the custom rom, like mean and viper, Sense works like it should and goes the extra mile over Touchwiz. That said, I'd hate to be the guy that has to root the phones of all my friends and family.
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
*looks up at thread section*

Huh it says EVO 3D but i couldn't be too sure.

As for op, chads kernel works on 2.17. Should check it out like nowish. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Only good thing about having a custom rom is no bloat :D

Sent from the Reaper
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
Interesting that you require a custom ROM to get by on HTC devices. In the future, don't buy them.

I'm just going to leave it at that. Anymore and I'll get banned for voicing my opinion too strongly. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Why do folks get so emotional over this stuff as if HTC pays you to advertise or be loyal to their brand? I now understand why people have such a disdain for those that defend Apple to the death. And yes, stop buying them is the obvious solution and is exactly why their sales are slipping every quarter. You may want to put as much passion behind helping them improve their products and get some new designs and better batteries before they slip to the bottom of the smart phone food chain.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
So you're saying sgs2 is for noobs? :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Lololol I guess so :( only pro flashers can use fast boot :(
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Haha nicely done! :)

Edit:

I'm surprised ppl that complain about soff go over to Samsung bc its unlocked easy...am i wrong in thinking that to flash stuff on Samsung you still have to hook up to a computer and run odin each time?.....so no diff really than with S-on here really...
[HTC EVO 3D] jpreichart:
"In my experience, you don't NEED a custom ROM on the SGS2 to have it work like it should. On my 3D, (and all other HTC devices,) I REQUIRE custom ROMs just to get by."

I think you are right.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Odin is only used for flashing .tar,modem files and to help fix soft bricking..

You dont need need it unless you get a bad flash or cant get into recovery

They also have a mobile Odin app.. Kinda like flash GUI

I had both hboot 1.4 and 1.5 and it never bothered me to use a computer with fastboot...

I usually use a computer to DL the roms/themes or whatever im gonna flash and move them to my internal/external SD anyways (im always by a computer)

It is nice to have a different splash screen but you only see it for a second...

And (stock) modems (aka radios) in my opinion are a placebo some work.... Some dont... it all depends on your area
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
I thought so too, but nope, you don't. ;)

If you're staying on the same base like EL29 to EL29 then you're fine, but if if you're coming from EL29 to CM7 or 9 it's a little bit of process. Kind of confusing, I'm still learning, lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Haha..."a process"....

Sounds kinda like hboot 1.5 no worse....

Just need the next massive HTC device to get hacked and Soff and everyone will flock back over.... :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
The process of actually flashing to CM7 or 9 is simple, just flash.

But when going from CM7 or 9 to anything else other than CM, you have to make sure you flash a correct recovery because when you flash one of those, it flashes a different recovery. Yada yada yada, lol. I'm learning slowly but surely, but yes, there is a process. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Trust me. It is extremely easy to use Odin and once you flash a recovery file lock cwm, you're good to go to flshd different ROMs. It literally took me less than 2 minutes before I saw the familiar recovery logo.

Hopefully HTC abandons that unlocking process and adopt Sammy's method. Use samoled, check, thin profile, check, debloat Sense, check, and make unlocking security, wip...At least HTC is.learning from their mistakes. :o
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
Modaco already rooted the One X, don't know if its temp or S-Off.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
I asked Paul in that thread there said it was done on an soff ENG test device...

I took it more as just showing his root process with the boot.img works on it...

Didn't say if they got a full dump from it and the ENG hboot but I'd only assume so...
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Kernels are packed with recoveries right? So you have to use whatever recovery the kernel dev chooses or is there only one recovery ppl use?
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Thats the problem :/ there are different recoveries throught gingerbread and CM7/CM9/MIUI4/AOKP/leaked ICS roms

People are also flashing from the ROM manager touch recovery that bricks the EMMc/data partition

Its a mess right now over in that forum thats why ive been here screwin around with my gfs evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
I've stayed on EL29 just for that reason. I did flash cm7 for a couple hrs, went into recovery and it was a different version of CWM. I was thinking "naw, I don't like this" so I went right back to EL29 with the rogue recovery I was on, lol. I've been happy with Calk's rom so I'm staying here for now.

Wait......... Isn't this the 3d section. :D

---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Blazer is what I keep going back to....

Sgt keeps asking questions to fill his mind with more tech info lol.....

And this thread is comparing the evo 3d and epic touch so its relevant (I think)

Dont make me mini mod a mod!

(jp dont ban me lulz)
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Whoa, completely different way to flash ROMs for the E4GT...On the T989 side, all we have to do is flash the ROM that has the kernel included and we only had to flash the recovery once through ODIN and never touch it again unless we want the updated touch cwm. Our devs don't include any kind of recovery packages within their ROMs. My flashing experience is more or less the same experience I have with the 3D. I never even heard of half the things jay and Bear are talking about, dang these different phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Your fine if your sticking with gingerbread to gingerbread based roms... Its when you flash a ics based ROM that things get messy... Its not difficult if you follow qbkings videos

Just do not flash a gingerbread ROM over a ics recovery thats how most bricks happen.. (just like froyo to gingerbread back in the galaxy s days)

People blame devs,recoveries,hardware... But never them self....

Just read,read,watch, and read again lol

(not directed towards anyone in general
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Oh, okay. I got it now.

Yep, I was suspecting that it was issues between compatibility between GB and ICS. Since our side has no ICS anything yet (NOT EVEN A LEAK AHHGHWEAIOFDHAWD) I didn't understand.

I'm thinking of just jumping from my GS2 to the G.Nex. Almost.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
It sure is. Watch what you say..

you are in my section now
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Gotta move it while i was posting. dang xda/tapatalk app f up. lol

To bring it back to topic anyway the 3D has 3camera so its better....boom
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Caught me red handed there. Why not learn more in the thread about this device when we were comparing the two?....

Why was this move again. Pstevep just wanted control over this thread. Jkjk

Edit:

Wtf tapatalk told me the thread moved. Guess not. My bad
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Lololololololol
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
For a second, I thought you had a stroke. My app has been giving me all sorts of random messages lately.

I've been enjoying reading about the weird ways of Samsung (weird because I don't know them)

Edit: and the threat was only at jay. I'm still bitter because he left.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Man when I went to reply it said thread didn't exist anymore. Then when you add back the lil comment you put in there about "your in my section now" I just assumed that they moved it for whatever odd ball reason...(which there wouldn't be one. lol)

long day/night + tapatalk/xda app acting up =/ sound posts in the end at times.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
jay said he still had his 3d :)

so do i :)

i don think i would consider that leaving lol

even if he (i as well) use the epic touch as are main device...

and samsung really isnt that different (maybe just different terminology and a few changes on the way things are flashed such as recoveries)
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
I know he does. Jay and I have a troll agreement, I troll him and he trolls me. We have to have an outlet.

But seriously jay, im still bitter.

/goes to corner to cry and think about the good times
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
I've had some crazy crap going on in one of my forums, a lot of locking and unlocking of threads because of fights and things. And the app tells me it's unlocking a thread when I'm telling it to lock it. Same with stickies. I have to double check all the time for fears of a troll getting lose.
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Sounds like something from a bad LOTR/Fantasy movie. lolololo.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Mods trolling mods!?! My God what has xda become? (jokes)

Has anyone looked into a port/Kang of the ROM AOKP yet for the evo 3d?
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
The past week it's felt like it. Lol..

It's ironic you brought that up. il Duce and i were discussing this the other day, and talked about trying to bring it over. I just got my linux vm back up because I wanted to do some kernel work. So we may take a look at it, now I just need time. Just like a week with no responsibility would be great.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
LOL i got an idea you give your mod powers to a random xda user (like the movie bruce almighty)for a week

and you relax and cook up sum AOKP goodness

then when you come back see what the guy did that had your powers lolol
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Lol... With my luck it would be a giant troll..

I've never actually done an AOSP rom so it would be interesting and I don't know how good.. But I am hoping to get something started here soon..
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
/feels loved again
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Even with a early alpha (just to get the ball rolling) im sure joelz and many other people would help...

it would be awesome on the 3d... alot of features made by the community... Its truly impressive what devs can do! If I only had the talent some of these developers have in their pinky :(

That is one thing that is impressive in the epic touch forums... We got 3 open betas going on and everyone is contributing even general flashers! no offence to the people here but everyone needs to band together!
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
Gfkmgfjv. Hgssjnk.

Delete ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
These mods nowadays. In my day we trolled the members and laughed about it in the moderator forum. We use to have competitions on who was the best troll.

Best job ever
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Hahaha that would be hilarious especially if your good at Photoshop lulz!
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
It was epic... we got in trouble. And I'm pretty sure I won because I trolled all the moderators and got let go for it :P
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Oh you have no idea ;)

---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
Carrying the tradition! Whoop whoop. I would actually like to see some funny stuff if you don't mind pming me ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Check this thread. The last couple posts by aaronpoweruser to be exact.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1493082&page=114

Looks like big things could be a foot. And I agree with the community helping, that's how it's meant to be. The unfortunate thing is there are so many immature users in the 3D. That's why we don't have a cm7 thread anymore, because most people just whine and demand things.

Once toast has his stuff ready for cm9, it will all hit the fan and get crazy again.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah, gonna need 3mods just patrolling that thread alone when it happens bc there will be countless pointless immature posts from all the people that have sooo much built up anticipation for it...
[HTC EVO 3D] tarassor:
Nice OP, i get en Evo 3D Gsm since a week now and i love it.

What i don't like with the SGSII is weight and plastic... i like htc because as you said you feel it in your pocket and btw in your hand ;-)

For now i am hesitating to unlock, root and flash or wait for official ICS OTA...
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Im gearing up!
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
How did you get picture of jayharper08??
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Lulz he sent it to me in a love txts (shhhhh!)

(its really from the nexus s forums lololol)
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Is...is that supposed to be a representation of Team Kang's mascot? Oh gosh...
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
And here I thought Jay was past the whole Brony thing... *shakeshead*

welcome back to the e3d forums Jay... traitor :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
I'm just glad you got "traitor" right and didnt say "trader" :p

---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT
[HTC EVO 3D] RayTrue04:
Ok the op complains about 4g sleeping on the e4gt after 10 seconds but I don't see why.. The time it goes to sleep can be changed and as I recall my Evo 3d goes to sleep too. HTC just didn't implement a 4g sleep icon for when it goes to sleep so it looks like it never sleeps.. Also my 4g comes on whenever it needs to sync or do data related stuff with no issues just like it would on 3g. Maybe your 4g acts up cuz ur in a ****ty 4g coverage area..

Edit: The only valid complain with 4g I see relevant is push notification not working while in sleep mode. But it applies on the Evo 3d too which sucks.
[HTC EVO 3D] sickskillz14:
I've currently had my evo 3d for about 8 months, and I can agree that it is a great phone. However with that said, I can't wait to buy the E4GT and get rid of the issues i've had with this phone.

It was great for the first few months, up until I started having the well known touch screen issues. Had it replaced once and here I am still getting the same annoying touch screen issue forcing me to turn my screen off and on more than half of the time (not fun when I'm standing outside in the freezing cold and can't call someone to come open up the door).

That on its own is not enough to deter anyone from this phone though, since I'm sure not everyone is having the same issues some of us have. For me, it was a mix of the flaky touch screen and annoyingly long boot time (rooted but still stock rom) that ticked me off enough to want to let go of the 3d and try out the e4gt.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
No! Don't. Wait for the galaxy nexus. Seriously...
[HTC EVO 3D] Mr nerd:
Kudos to you bro..I enjoyed that and you gave me stuff go looked forward to and to not look forward to on my new 3vo thanks again for that

I am one of many
[HTC EVO 3D] PoorCollegeGuy:
Yes you can change it, in the EPST (ESPT? I can never remember what it's called) settings. It's not obvious at all and most people will never access that menu, ergo they will never find it. That's like saying "oh to get epic 4g touch apps to work on the 3d, you just have to change the device ID in the build.prop DUH"...like dude seriously, not everyone knows about that so it's a valid complaint. If it were in the settings, like it should've been, then you'd be right.

but it's not, so i hold my stance.

I stay on wifi most of the time, but the time I've been on 4g I haven't had a problem with it so I have no idea what you're talking about.

I've been testing it out (IRC test releases ftw), it's pretty sexy so far. Camera is borked but most of it works pretty well. you can always tell people are excited when even the forum mods are posting off topic in a thread :P (joking guys, I work for XDA too).

I'd like to write an article about it when toast does release it, hopefully the portal admin lets me.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
Again it stands that evolution 3d also has a 10 second sleep timer
[HTC EVO 3D] PoorCollegeGuy:
If it does, it wakes up on command. Tried it with Browser, Facebook, Twitter, refreshing e-mail, Google+ Messenger and tethering to my laptop. If it does sleep, it easily wakes up for all of those and works properly (I'm tethered right now to post this).

On the Epic Touch, it's a much bigger challenge. In order to tether, you must first turn on the wifi tether, then wake up the 4g using the browser, then connect to a computer to keep it from falling asleep again. Tethering doesn't wake up 4g on the Epic Touch, I tried it a dozen times. If I'd known about the EPST (ESPT?) settings at the time, I'd have turn 4g sleep completely off because it's very annoying.

Can the 3vo do that too? If so, I'll be turning it off asap!
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
I'm not sure if you can turn it off completely, but you can change the timeout on it.

It should be in ##3283#, edit, WiMAX, WiMAX_Idle_Sleep(s)
[HTC EVO 3D] tailsthecat3:
Poor xda. what happened?

Definitely didn't "trade down".

Infinitely smh
[HTC EVO 3D] RayTrue04:
Lol I see you guys are very touchy in the 3D section. My post got deleted for no reason smh.. I guess stating facts is not cool in here huh....
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
And bringing the drama/outdated topic to the e4gt forum is cool?

Which I got locked for you :cool:

(I wont take all credit but it was reported by me as im sure others who want xda to be enjoyable)

Staring forum wars/trash talking either community will get you no where...

Bad mood pstevep?

Any news on AOKP? Or are they still waiting on source for milestone?
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Let me just throw this out there. Tread carefully, im not going to put up with any flames today.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
No not really. Just tired of this crap.

I haven't heard anything yet. I would like to play with it a little bit, but haven't seen him post recently.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
Let me just go ahead and put it out there that both the EVO 3D and ET4G both suck equally.

At this point in the game, I wouldn't take either over the other.

Bring on the 2012 lineup, Sprint. These god awful phones you have delivered us are taking their toll on our once great XDA community of high-end Sprint device users.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Lol sounds about right... Sprints horrible phone line up last year turned everyone bitter...
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
....so you get the 3D put under ur mod umbrella lately?
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
FTFY freeza ;)

---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Sure did. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
Galaxy nexus ftw! I'm getting it and that's a testament for others to do the same. I'm serious
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
I might... Im gonna see the reviews on it and a comparison to the original...

If I end up not buying it I promise to trollolol you in the forums Korey lol