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[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
its the infinity Pad coming out down the road. the wording in that quote was off..lol wifi version has tegra3 but will be clocked higher and probably be a tegra3 with new silicon process to allow higher clocked speeds like what's found in the new HTC X. Except infinity pad will make use of total power of chip. the HTC one X chip speed is scaled to based off battery life. so if battery is low, it lowers processor speed. I don't think infinity pad will need or use that feature as it has a slightly larger battery than prime.

this is the quote from Hamdir on the new version of tegra3 in one X. this will likely be in Infinity pad. infinity pad tegra3expected to be clocked even higher than HTC one X tegra3

" The T Prime has T3.0 which had 1.4ghz single core vs 1.3ghz multi core it also have some thermal issues, the processor on the One X is the T/AP33 revision this is a silicon revision aimed at achieving 1.5/GHz stable, on the One X it runs @ 1.5ghz quad, but so far the performance is not locked, HTC is scaling CPU clocks based on battery levels with no option to control this, so far"
[Asus Transformer TF700] junrider:
Well I received my firend's RMA prime. I noted other than the sleep of death, no GPS (ordered 12/28/11), weak wifi on the RMA form. It came back today.. updated to .21.. lcd is still the same one as it still had the old screen protector, saw a bunch of TF201 PCB flange & GPS foil, MB top absorber, MB conductive sponge all replaced. Overall just the display is back to normal, GPS still nothing, and wifi still weak used wifi analyse and speed test (went to the furthest part that the signal of the prime can be seen with the tf201,ipad2, newipad side by side on multiple tries). The new ipad does a little better than that of the ipad2, and the prime is stuck on the upload portion. Results repeated switching tablets around, same results.

Oh well I tried.. At least my friend can use his TF201 again even if after RMAing it still lack luster in the wifi/GPS performance. When the Infinity pad comes out Ill wait for user comments before buying it, maybe Ill try out the newer tf201 serials out at the time of the infinity release first and see if there are any improvements. Either way, Im not making the same mistake again and save myself the headache.

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That was Google Translate from the link a few post back:

http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/04/n...r-information/

in regards on the Infinity Pad.

With higher resolution and higher clocked speed accounts for the lower battery life (2hrs). Too bad they dont just beef up the battery to get the 2hrs back.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
the battery is slightly beefed up(look at spec page) but that higher Res display is a battery drainer. The beefing up wasn't enough to get it to same battery life as prime. But if you get the dock you're good anyways.

Great ideally waiting. play it smart and forget the early adopter Mentality. Although I got lucky on my prime. I doubt I will be one again. Although tegra4 might change my mind on that..lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
so i was reading various sites about Asus Transformer Pad Infinity and couldn't make clear for myself the following 2 things:

1. is there the 1x USB port in the tablet and then in the dock, or just in the dock?

2. the internal microphone, is it 2 internal mic "holes" on the sides (to get stereo) or it is only one "hole"? Where is it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
as far as I know just the dock. if there was one on the tablet itself they would've been alot of hype around that feature. As only thick tablets have full size USB port like Toshiba thrive or Acer A500.

not sure about the microsd hole.I remember there were rumors of prime having 2 mice also. I know of one and that's located on top of prime, on the bezel towards the middle. what I'm mad about is that Asus didn't make the headphone jack mic capable also. I have a earbud headset that also has a mic on it. it has 3 rings on the male end piece. it doesn't go all the way inside the prime. only allows 2 rings(stereo) to fit. for ex. my atrix phone headphone Jack has mic support also. the plug will fit all the way in there. I never tried a dedicated mic though to see.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_transformer_pad_infinity_700_lte-4605.php there it is written about USB 2.0 port, and dock mentioned just like optional accessory, it is not said what ports dock will have or what battery power, it is just said that battery is up to 10 hours - this is for tablet itself.

http://asuseeepadtransformertablet.com/asus-eee-pad-infinity this site says nothing about USB in the tablet, just dock
[Asus Transformer TF700] PrimeUser:
If you want USB port, you got to have the dock, no port on the tab, just for micro hdmi.;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
so, how would i transfer files to tablet if i have no dock?
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishamm:
Just heard from the swiss retailer, Brack Electronics, they have confirmed they will not ship to the UK.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
+1....will also like to know how warm it gets while doing some performance tasking jobs. Can you also install system tuner and tell us how high the CPU gets in terms of degrees while playing a game or watching a video ???
[Asus Transformer TF700] aleandre1974:
And also, if the happy owner could install RL Benchmark (the SQL benchmark that revealed the I/O problem of the Prime) and post the results, I and probably many others would be VERY VERY interested indeed !

If these results are poor, I will not allow myself to be lured into buying a yet another premium product from ASUS after the experience of the TF201, which is most likely owing to its poor I/O the many problems discussed in this forum !

Thank you

very

very

much in advance, nivlheim_o_O !!
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
Just wanted to say THANKS for all your feedback on it so far....just think it's very kind of you to take the time and for us all to benefit from it!

All the best from Ireland,

Mark
[Asus Transformer TF700] gdx775:
UK Release Date

First post on the XDA forum but thought people may find this useful.

w w w . asuseeepad.net/blog/2012/06/asus-uk-confirms-uk-august-release-date-tranformer-infinity-tf700t/

Seems @ASUS_UK replied to someone on twitter. Looks like it's the Nexus tablet for the time being and a transformer book whenever they come out!

Remove spaces for the link.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Yes it's exactly the feeling I have when I hold the TF700 on my hands !
[Asus Transformer TF700] CBers:
Where did you purchase it from ??
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Brack.ch , at this time they still have 126 units in stock
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
Will they deliver to Geneva do you know? I have a mate who works for the UN there and will be in Ireland next week visiting me ;-) Also, how much is delivery??

Cheers,

M
[Asus Transformer TF700] dagrim1:
Thanks for taking the time to answer all these questions nivlheim_o_O? :)

Requests:

* RL Benchmark: SQLite. Focusses on SQLite performance..

* Androbench: Likewise, tests SQL and IO performance

Wondering if any improvement is made in this area. Cheers!
[Asus Transformer TF700] tibursio:
Geneva is in switzerland so yes of course. Delivery costs CHF 9.90.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Can't believe what I'm hearing. First reaction of owner is "build quality is disappointing". From such an expensive device the last thing I expected was an improper build quality.

I hope it is somewhat exaggerated, else I'll check it out in the shops before purchasing.
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
Great, thanks :-)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Have there been any I/O benchmarks on the Infinity?

The Prime has great issues with I/O, i.e. making the device unresponsive when e.g. downloading torrents. See for example http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1461583&page=10
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
This is correct. If people appreciated the fine line between a production process and the uniformity of displays, they would appreciate the differences the same model can have. Apple has the best and most uniform quality displays, but that is one of the reasons they cost so much.

Added: Same for Samsung's own products.

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Not to mention add the dock and you are at decent laptop pricing. Seems the Acer may be the better buy, but it apparently has a heat issue even warmer than the A510.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
How's the front camera?

Does the device itself take a memory card? or just the dock?

any issues writing to and from the memory card?
[Asus Transformer TF700] PeglegJones:
Cheesy Build?

This is not a very good sign ! Especially at the price!
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
So so true....for me to buy the tablet on it's own with no keyboard dock from Switzerland it will cost €565....pretty crazy money for something that may not be up to scratch!!

Cheers,

M
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
It was only my first reaction... after having for more than a year a rock solid Xoom I'm very hard to impress.

But if you compare the Asus Infinity to the Sony Tablet S1 or the Icona A510 the Asus is by far better built

-The front camera is as you expect from a basic front camera... good enough for skype but not that great to take pictures of yourself, but in a few hours when I'm at home I'll take some pics with both front and rear camera

-Yes there is a MicroSD port on the left , I put a 32Gb MicroSDHC card but I didn't test the transfer speeds, just reading some movies from it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
Thanks for the response. I look forward to the pics.
[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
I do wonder if it is more the fact that the xoom is an absolutely rock solid device, and perhaps that is skewing his perception. Every time I pick up my wife's xoom, I'm impressed with how indestructible it seems. When I held the Prime in best buy, it didn't compare. That doesn't mean the Prime is "bad", just that the xoom might be "overkill".
[Asus Transformer TF700] fatpandas:
Well, if you had the Xoom before, then we can't really blame you for saying the infinity feels kinda flimsy. bricks feel flimsy at that point... on the bright side, i imagine the guys here that haven't used the Xoom will find the build quality quite decent.

what i'm more curious about is the screen quality / colors. I'll be looking forward to any pictures/info you can post on how true the colors are. the one thing i couldn't stand about the tf300 was how faded the colors looked.

thanks for taking the time to share and answer questions here.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
The guy said it's not actually yellowish, and so that's a good thing. Certainly, photographing this kind if thing can be difficult.

I'll note that the issue with the Prime was NOT due to an adhesive, or at least it didn't go away on the units I had for at least a week. Same thing with the new iPad, by the way--I went through three of them before getting one without a tint, one of which I kept for almost a week. I think this is more a matter of quality control than anything else.

But, it's good to hear that at least the one Infinity doesn't have it, and it can go back on the list of contenders.

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Interestingly, I've found this to be a pretty widespread problem. Like I said, I went through three (out of four) new iPads that had this problem. And, I tried the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7", and had to return the first one I tried because of it. I found myself quite jaded by the whole thing, actually, and it's not just me: my wife and daughter (who both have excellent eyes for color) spotted it on a few before I did.

So, at first, I was upset with ASUS, but then I realized it's most certainly not just them. I think the relatively low cost of these things and the relatively high volume combines to result in the kinds of general quality control issues we're seeing. And nobody--including Apple--is immune. It's the luck of the draw whether or not you get a mostly perfect device, and it requires diligence and perseverance to make sure you're not stuck with a flawed one.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
What software or app can I run to test whether my screen is good or not? I may not be able to distinguish the yellow problem at first as I have never owned a tablet before.
[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
oh also... when I was feeling the first generation zenbook in Best Buy, I thought that the metal was nice and strong. Hopefully the infinity will be just as strong. I try to avoid (as Happy Gilmore said) "testing its durability" but I can understand the temptation.
[Asus Transformer TF700] terjeofnorway:
You'd need specialized calibration equipment to get exact results. However, putting a white piece of paper next to the screen can help determine if your screen suffers from a yellow tint or not.

Just to clarify: the rumor that Infinity has a yellow tint issue seem to have been debunked (for now).
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Well, first, on some of the units I had the yellow tinge was obvious. Just open any app or Web page with a white background--if it looks a dingy yellow, then you have it. This was the case for me with the Samsung--the screen was just ugly, and when I swapped for a new one, it was much more pleasant.

On some others, I had a general sense that the screens weren't up to par, but the yellow tinge problem wasn't so obvious. With the iPad, it wasn't until I was looking at a coworker's unit that had much nicer whites that I noticed how much worse mine was. So, I didn't return it until I had a chance to compare to a new unit. Once I got the good one, the difference was obvious side-by-side.

On the Primes, I also got in the habit of checking a new one before returning an old one. I noticed it because I had absolutely the worst luck--screens separating from the case, speakers that were heavily distorted, that kind of thing--and so went through a few buy-return cycles. Some Primes had excellent screens with good colors and contrast, and some were horrible. It was most obvious comparing them side-by-side.

I have a feeling that many new iPad users, and others, are using devices that don't live up to their potential. The iPad problem wasn't nearly as profound as the Primes, but when the tablet is being marketed as having the industry's best screen, you kind of want to get the best experience.
[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
[This is correct. If people appreciated the fine line between a production process and the uniformity of displays, they would appreciate the differences the same model can have.]

Two cars of the exact same make and model could have drastically different build quality. I don't see why they can't expand the same concept to tablets.

I'm very interested in hearing about the video playback aspect. The owner said he already tried a 1080p video and two different players. Was the file .mp4, .mkv, or something else?
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Yes, and: there's a difference between differences in color temperature and the yellow tint problem. Some screens are warmer, and whites will be more reddish, some screens are colder, which will make whites look blueish. When I hold a really warm screen next to a really cold screen (say, the original Transformer compared to my wife's Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1), whites on the warm screen will look more like a cream color, which some people might think is more yellowish.

Personally, I prefer warm screens to cold screens. I just don't like screens that look like there's a layer of urine in between the glass and the LCD. That's the problem I'm describing here.

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Well, first, cars are a bit more complex. Really, in terms of fit and finish, there's no reason why tablets can't be made consistently--except for the low cost/high volume aspect I mentioned earlier. No matter what, though, screens shouldn't separate from the case and that sort of thing. That's just piss poor quality control.

Second, I wager there's actually less variation in cars from quality manufacturers than there are with tablets. Consider Toyota. Sure, there might be minor variations between one Camry and another, but I guarantee you won't find many Camrys with half-inch gaps in quarter panels where there should be a few millimeters. Of course, cars are much more expensive and are made in lower quantities by (arguably) more skilled workers. They also have better quality control.

American car makers still have the reputation of having shoddy quality and consistency. It's probably less common today, but the Toyotas of the world showed things could be done better. So, probably, someone who won't accept a rattle in a car is the same person who won't accept a gap between the screen and the case--knowing that in both cases such a thing will likely result in further problems down the road (no pun intended).
[Asus Transformer TF700] FelipeRRM:
Well, by those pics it seems colder screens are nicer. Well, let's wait for more comparison pictures...
[Asus Transformer TF700] 3oudreaux:
I'm curious to know if the sd card pokes out the same way it did on the prime. Or does this seem to be resolved like the tf300?
[Asus Transformer TF700] C3jay:
Don't know if this is already known, but just came from Best buy asking if they had it ready to pre order. He showed me that it wasn't and i saw that the price was $599. I'm in California usa.
[Asus Transformer TF700] techtied:
Thanks for the Info! I had a feeling the rumored $500 price was not going to happen.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sunrise71:
Did he say anything about when it would be available?
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Color??

Bestbuy.com has Gray & Champagne keyboards for the TF700... I thought it was going to be Gray and Gold. Whats up wit dat?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Johnex:
Its called Champagne, but its a silverish gold color like....Champagne :) :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] C3jay:
No he didn't, but he did say the price can change, and hope it does cuz that expensive.
[Asus Transformer TF700] amd1979:
I remember when the TF300 came out and was first listed on Best Buy's website, they had it listed higher than the true retail price. It wouldn't surprise me if the price dropped to $499 on Bestbuy.com when it's actually available to order.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
It better be $499. At $599, it's dead before it even ships. Why would someone pay $599 for the TF700 when they could pay $459 for the Iconia A700 sitting next to it (not to mention the 32GB iPad)? And this is coming from someone seriously considering paying $499 for the Toshiba Excite 7.7 (that AMOLED screen is excellent).

I think there's a psychological barrier nowadays that makes $599 for an Android tablet seem really, really expensive.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
i think Asus just wanted to go after the 32gb wifi IPAD at the same price point.

but on a broader note....

after following this thread even before nivlheim_o_O? first graced us with the experiences of his new toy, i'm thinking of waiting (again) for the next android show stopper. am i crazy? it's just that paying for a premium product without the premium product feel is a hard pill to swallow. or maybe i'll wait till the TPI hype dies down and they make the next batch with screens that have properly dried and the aluminum case has fully mated with the gorilla glass...=\

what do you guys think?
[Asus Transformer TF700] newellj79:
Just got back from a five day vacation and found 30 new pages in this thread! Whats all the commotion about? Has it been released somewhere? A U.S. date yet? Sorry, with a two year old I don't have time to read back all the pages... thanks guys.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
The commotion is about a XDA member actually getting TF700. So everyone is going crazy asking him questions about his new toy :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] fatpandas:
can't really blame you there. i was thinking about that too but the only thing that I, personally, might be interested in that should come out sometime before 2013 would be the galaxy note 10.1.

actually, has anyone heard anything else in terms of new FullHD android tablets?

although if i want to wait, i'm very much considering that microsoft surface pro that was announced.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tibursio:
He said something about a calibrated Samsung Monitor so I guess he has a colorimeter which would enable us to see if it is yellowish or not (with actual facts).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Svashtar:
Hi,

i am reading this thread for a few days now and I don't understand some of you, really.

How the hell can you compare (price vise) infinity with iPad?

I'll just make few point:

- it's apple, and that sucks :D (yes, i'm not from the states)

- does iPad have keyboard that comes with it for the price it has? nope

- does it have an expansion slot? actually 2 of them. nope, i don't think so.

Just these 2 (first one is a joke) makes me wanna have infinity, despite the price.

Oh, and one more thing. In EU we are paying in €, which suck. Cause every single thing in teh f. world is just more expansive. Sucky.

Well, just my 2 cents. Can't wait for it anymore, if I'll wait another 2 months, I can wait until October and get myself Surface. I absolutely LOVE Android, but the lack of serious productivity apps just sucks, and Surface, from this point of view, is an overall winner.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Beknatok:
For Display Testing, try this app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester&hl=en

Useful & straightforward & helpful in identifying color issues.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jonkrav:
Yep I was almost certain on getting an Infinity but by the looks of it Surface blows it out of the water.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I think you just need to make sure to buy it from somewhere with a good return policy (at least 30 days, no restocking fee). Then there's really no risk--you should be able to figure out in 30 days whether any device is built well and works for you.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
correction...

the $599 USD price is just for the tablet itself. so it would be on the same price point with 32gb wifi 'new ipad' at $599 USD.

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that just might be the way to go...thanks!
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
I am praying it's $499 as that is only €394.....so happy days!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] JamesRC:
This would be awesome if you have time!
[Asus Transformer TF700] willam71:
I'd really appreciate it too. Thank you.
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Even if it's $499 in USA, it will definitely be €499 in Europe. It's only the currency signs that will change. don't think you will ever get it for €394, it's just wishful thinking.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
i swear...all i've been doing all day is refreshing this thread!...hahaah
[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
I didn't intend to get "that" deep with my comparison. Given the sophistication of modern car assembly, I don't think there is any reason that cars can't be virtually identical as well. I only wanted to call attention to an area where the idea of variation among the same model of product already exists.

When I held the Prime in my hand and tried bending it a bit, I heard a little bit of give, but I expected that given how slim the unit is. The Xoom is like a slab of flooring by comparison.

Whats funny is, in the ritchiesroom video, the presenter described the build quality as being quite sturdy.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Its addictive!

I'm thinking there are 50 addicts for everyone who admits they have a problem! :rolleyes:

Between my phone and my work PC, I've hit this thread about 10 times today too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lqbweb:
only? :confused: