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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Snow_fox:
Lion batteries tolerate cold better than heat but, I would imagine that there is still a potential for damage to occur.

I doubt the other components would be affected much.. but, just keep in mind there is a chance it will be on life support to actually run the rest of it's life.

If I may also go ahead and point this out.. You can get a Garmin with lifetime updates for about 250$ that doesn't require a cellular data connection and would be more reliable for what your buying it for..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kenyu73:
I got the Flyer at BestBuy for $99 a few months ago when they messed up the price. I dont have a need for it in the house because I have a GT10.1. I was close to CraigsListing it for $175, but decided to buy the Flyer car dock and use it as device to leave in the truck for GPS and such.

I dont really want another Garmin if the Flyer can work (w/tethering).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
While Li ion batteries tolerate cold temperatures better than some other types, they still drain much more quickly in freezing temperatures. If you are leaving your Flyer in screen-off mode (and not powering it down), then you should be careful its not draining until shutoff in cold temps. Full power cycles are not good for Li ion batteries long term. Its also possible that draining the battery until the device shuts off, will render the battery unable to take a charge. (doesn't happen often, but does happen with Android devices).

That said, I completely understand your feeling about wanting to use an Android device instead of a Garmin for car navigation. I haven't used the "latest" Garmins. But the one I have (couple years old) has a crappy unresponsive touch screen, low resolution, and search function is nothing compared to Google.

The only advantage to a Garmin, is that you don't need a data connection. But of course, there are ways around that with Android also, either downloading Google Map sections, or with 3rd party software.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] JinxDroid:
This doesn't answer your question, but I'll just throw this out there:

I've had the Flyer since it's release date at Best Buy. I bought it with full intentions of leaving it in my truck as a GPS/Media Player/Browser.

I built a console for it that goes between my jump seat and dash (the unit basically sits right under my stereo) and I have left it there plugged into a usb charger and line in on my stereo since the day I bought it (I can easily remove it and have on occasion for a few hours at a time.

I live in West Virginia so it probably doesn't get quite as cold as it does in NY but it can get down below zero at night. We have had a pretty mild winter here but that being said - I have never had a single problem out of it. Neither heat nor cold has seemed to have any affect on it whatsoever.

This is not to say that it couldn't and I've wondered the same as you many times... but just as someone who is doing exactly what you plan to do... I have never had a problem with it.

Hope this helps.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] procerum:
Just an FYI regarding the need for a cellular or wifi signal to use the Flyer or View as a dedicated GPS. With the use of a standalone navigation app such as CoPilot Live (no affiliation) or similar, which include built-in maps, your GPS-enabled unit uses only the internal GPS antenna to set a fix, and the on-board maps to get you around. No data connection is required to constantly update maps, as is the case with Google Maps, which is an 'assisted GPS' (aGPS) program.

Once your nav app is loaded, conserve batt power by activating 'airplane mode,' then under 'Location' enable the 'use GPS satellites' function. Make sure your Flyer is securely mounted on windshield or dashboard with a reasonable view of the sky (that's where the satellites are). You'll have no problems getting around in remote areas not served by Sprint et al. Over the past few years we have used my Evo 4g, Evo 3D and Evo View to get around in Europe in just this manner (no phone calls though, these are not international phones).

Regarding cold temperatures, I would remove the device from your vehicle if sub-zero F readings are expected.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
That is not what assisted GPS (aGPS) means. aGPS uses cell tower triangulation to speed up GPS location. Virtually any usage of the phone's GPS involves aGPS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

Also, as I've mentioned previously, Google Maps has the ability to download maps so you can use Maps and Navigation online. You just have to download the maps one area at a time.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] procerum:
I think we're saying the same thing. The Flyer/View will perform GPS (vs. aGPS) duties just fine without tower triangulation (in airplane mode) if your program has built-in maps. No tethering required.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kenyu73:
The map caching is in Google Labs, right? I played with that while waiting at an appointment. I tried a Nav to home with it and Nav just spun. I only tried once though. I didn't get a "data connection required" so i know it knew the cached data was there.

I will think about Copilot if GNav doesn't cut it.

I like this thread, lots of good comments!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
No, we are not saying the same thing at all. You were saying that Google Maps can't be used without a data connection, since its an "aGPS program", and you seemed to be stating that aGPS had something to do with updating the maps (which it does not). Google Maps is fully functional without a data connection as I stated above.

Also, pretty much any current Android device is going to use aGPS when possible to shorten GPS lock time, regardless of what navigation app you are using (I hate when people call nav software "GPS", as GPS just determines lat/long and elevation and nothing more).

And now you are mis-using the term "tethering". A data connection is not tethering. Tethering is when you share a cell data connection with another device. For instance, tethering a phone to a laptop, means your laptop can use the data connection on your phone.

You really need to get your terms right.

---------- Post added at 08:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:13 PM ----------

Yeah, that's right. I haven't played around with the feature much myself. But a buddy of mine recently used it during a trip to Europe, so he can navigate the cities on foot without pricey data roaming fees. He said it worked wonderfully.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] procerum:
Thanks for the suggestion, Captain. I am attempting to help the OP, who used the term 'tethering,' which is unecessary, as is a data connection, if you have maps on your device:

My comments/methodologies are based upon actual travel experiences with these devices, which I'm sharing with the OP. Why do you feel the need to challenge me? Is this an initiation ritual for a new poster?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kenyu73:
Its all good gents. I just wanted to know if the Flyer was ok out in the cold. :cool:

Whether or not I'll use GNav or purchase something like Copilot is another story. I appreciated the comments from everyone.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
The person your last response is directed at, and the OP are the same person.

No, I'm not trying to pick on you. But if you post something that is incorrect, people here are going to call it out. Or people here may just want to offer up a different opinion. Which brings me to the following.

I completely sympathize with the OP's desire to not want another Garmin navigation unit. I've found them to be crap. Overpriced for what they can do, not well made, and completely unreliable. I paid $399 for a flagship Nuvi unit, and it broke down a year after I bought it. Luckily, it was still on warranty, and they fixed it. But then the power cable failed soon after (out of warranty). Good thing I found a replacement on eBay for less than $10, because Garmin wants to charge you $30 (for something that will probably fail again in a year or so anyway). Both failures happened while I was traveling, and luckily I had my smartphone and Google Maps as backup.

Meanwhile, I have 3 HTC smartphones, and one tablet, from as far back as 4 years, still running fine as the day they were bought (aside from a few cosmetic blemishes from normal wear and tear). As far as I'm concerned, you are better off using a smartphone or tablet as navigation, with a 3rd party nav app with pre-loaded apps, if losing data connection is a concern.

Having a dedicated nav unit is probably a dying business model. Aside from providing software for smartphones, I don't see much of Garmin's business being around in a few years.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] procerum:
This is true, the last one I purchased was in 2003; it's unlikely that I'll ever purchase a dedicated unit again. The Flyer/View's 7-inch screen and robust build make for an excellent navigation device.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mercvtio:
So people, has anyone here been using is TF as a drawing tablet? I basically got mine thinking it would do a decent job replacing my graphic tablet when I'mnot at home, and I must say that with Photoshop Touch and the adonit Jot, it's been really great.

So if there's anybody here who uses it this way, I would very much like to see what they managed to obtain, so show off !

For people interested, here is what I got to do with a little work (and I have a last one, with a topless girl, which his my last and favorite creation... but I'm not sure I can show it here).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] asdfuogh:
What do you use? Also, must show or we won't believe you can draw naked girls.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] luna_c666:
I made my signature with the jot and PS touch, I've done other things as well..like a SPARK signature logo in paul burton's dev thread..very handy..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] baseballfanz:
That's some nice stuffs
[Eee Pad Transformer General] horndroid:
Post the tits. Nudity is perfectly appropriate in art.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mercvtio:
How did you manage to get a different brush in PS Touch ? I can't find for the life of me a way to change it...

Okay, so here we go :
[Eee Pad Transformer General] luna_c666:
Yeah, from what I've gathered you can't change brush shape, only size, opacity, flow and hardness, but you can enable pressure sensitivity, yet it just random jitters with the jot, sure the jot 2 will enable this option fully, ICS already has pressure sensitivity via Bluetooth function built in IIRC.

But you get warp and filter masks etc so i use these functions to address the missing brush options.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mercvtio:
Speaking of pen pressure... Did anyone try the stylus from the HTC Flyer or the Samsung Galaxy note with our TF ? PS Touch and SBPro claim they use the pressure ; can we get it with these ?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] yoyomonk:
Unfortunately, I don't think so. With those pens, AFAIK, they require special hardware in the screen similar to a Wacom screen.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] eminembdg:
Wow man those are great! I'm no artist, lucky if I can draw a stick figure with straight lines lol.

Awesome work and I'm impressed these can be accomplished on our OG Transformers
[Eee Pad Transformer General] randolphslim:
Interesting

Technology Transforms Art.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] BigHunkoMan:
Nice!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mercvtio:
Well, given that theses styli are battery powered, I figured they would analyse the pressure themselves and send the,information to the device... after all that's the way my lowgrade Aiptek tablet works.

Thank you to the others for your nice comments.:)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mercvtio:
Up !

Just to let you know I purchased Sketchbook Pro : wanted to see if it could be easier than Photoshop Touch to use. Well, I find the UI really intuitive, and it has freaking brushes ! Yay.

The con is that the number of layers is limited - 7 or 8, not sure. I only know I've found myself merging layers 'cause I needed a new one and had reached the app's limit.

Anyway, here's what I did this evening : took me about one hour, and I'm quite pleased with the way it turned out.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] showson1:
Nice man, I wish I had this kind of talent.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] john99teg:
Just got sketchbook pro. Takes alot of getting used to but I like it so far! I am using a regular pen for tablets. This sketch took a while because I had to figure what everything does lol. Anyone got tips on using sketchbook pro?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mercvtio:
Yay, like it - a lot! As you might already have guessed, you'll find the Transformer works best with sketching: getting a clean line can be a pain the ass, but eventually, everything seems to be possible.

As for tips, I'm afraid I don't have any. I know I have spent a fair amount of time learning to edit my brushes (you can change opacity, smoothness, spacing, hardness/smoothness... almost everything, for both the extremities and the middle of a line) only to find my settings didn't stick when I would close the app... but hey, with a bit of practice, it's pretty fast to set up again. If you ever used Photoshop or the Gimp, you'll find a lot of similarities.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GS1969:
Hi guys, I replaced my stock gTab OS with ICS for GTab, it's awesome but the cam and mic don't work, sigh. Anyway, I really liked the "News" app on the stock gTab. Can anyone provide a link to it or tell me a nice replacement?

thanks,

GS1969

ICS by Team DRH on gTab
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaggerDave:
My favorite news app is called 'Pulse'. Very nice looking and works well for me, and has a descent looking widget too. Use it on both my phone and gtabs. Its is in the market so should be easy to find.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoTeC:
Pulse or News 360. I like the features of News 360.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ByByIpad:
The name of the app is geni widget. It works fine on my ICS version E.

I restored from Titanium Backup.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroTechMaster:
Is there any chance to chnge default memory to sd-card? I install few games and my memory is almoust gone.... Help please.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chasmodo:
Download this app from the market and give it a try. It moves your apps to SD Card (if they can be moved).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k1ckdapro:
Yea, I don't think you can make your SDCard a standard memory for apps, like above, only thing you can do is move them afterwards, but still some apps can have problems afterwards. So you just need to try ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
This thread is dedicated to de la vega.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] veloslave:
Because

"Why can't AT&T offer twice the data for same price?"

Because then they would no longer be att (whom I still fondly refer to as PacHell)

I had ATT before Verizon... man, what a joke. There is IMHO, no comparison. Verizon offers service and all ATT does is just try to get out of offering service. I know... it is a can of worms but the customer satisfaction surveys agree... ATT on the bottom, Verizon almost always on the top of every category.

I think it is the family plans that keep people where they are... I have a good friend that works IT on a very high up level... he buys and routes 10Gb connections, anyway... he would like to switch because he knows the difference but the in-laws.... and thus the rest of the family... is all on ATT.

I do have Comcast (business) for IP at home... I would prefer Sonic.net (not available) :-( ... but I can VERY proudly say that I do not have a single ATT product or bill. :-D

Life is too short!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Can tmobile do data and voice simultaneously?

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] toyotaking88:
They are talking about AT&T not T-Mobile...... Google is your friend by the way A Google search of "can T-Mobile do data and voice at the same time"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Yes. Its a GSM carrier.

Because companies can do what they want. If you don't like what they do, don't give them money.

/thread
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
I ask the same question. Att is being stupid i think throttling at such a low limit. It seems like far too many public people have been getting throttling messages from att. Shep on foxnews ranted about his on air. Leo leoprte did the same. On and on. It doesnt line up with atts claim of only "top 5%" of users. Seems like a ton of users fall in that, which means att is full of crap with their 5% number. They should really start throttling at 4-5gb.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Yes. That is why I am considering tmobile. Atnt just keeps finding more and more ways to get on my nerves. It is unreal how agitating they are getting and getting away with. Sprint is completely out of the question. Verizon has non gsm network against it but atnt is making that negative a positive look easy.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Welcome to T-Mobile.

While you're at it, read the prepaid thread in my sig.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rubiconjp:
For me, either T-Mobile or one of the at&t MVNO's.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Samsuck:
AT&t is a crappy monopoly in Texas.

They get decent coverage everywhere but once you hit the country, you're on EDGE.

At least Verizon has EVDO out in the country in Texas. 3.1 mbps theoretical max is way better than 200kbps
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
As much as I hate the choice of phones on Verizon, they have the best service.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rubiconjp:
I can personally attest to this. Offroading and camping almost anywhere in Texas and you're on Edge with at&t while my friends on Verizon still using 3G!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Samsuck:
Yup, CDMA & EVDO isn't as bad as it seems. Whenever I'm at my friends lake house in "Gun Barell City" Texas. Every GSM provider out there is on EDGE. At least I can tether decently on 3g :)

I used to have AT&T too. I'm in Houston though so coverage is pretty good with every provider. Except Sprint, their 3g = dialup lol
[EVO 4G General] CashMoneyMatt:
Best ROM out right now???
[EVO 4G General] crapid:
I've been loving AOKP, and the boot animation alone makes it worth it!
[EVO 4G General] MarkEv0:
Wait for classic super magic it should be the best rom.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Not another one.....

Again, there is no "best rom". Everyone has their own opinion, and everyone has different wants/needs in a rom. Since you are rooted, just try out a few. That's the benefit of flashing roms, just make a backup, and if you dont like a new rom, flash another or reload your backup.
[EVO 4G General] tgrgrd00:
I can't get AOKP to run more than a minute (literally) without a random reboot and I have flashed my share of ROMs. Plus last I checked AOKP doesn't have everything working.

Your best bet for stable fully functional ROM is MikG3.0.
[EVO 4G General] LeslieAnn:
I'm liking AOKP but it still has some minor issues (being ICS, it's no surprise). I expect it to be my daily once everything is ironed out.

I'm using a tweaked CM7 for daily use, but I also really like the Mik roms.
[EVO 4G General] bard77:
I'm using the Ligux port from pspunderground. I'm not really into AOSP that much, but this is a great ROM. Very smooth.
[EVO 4G General] sickboy82:
No matter what I try cm7 nightly's always pulls me back. Especially since the officials started up again. I tried Nitrous 1.3.1 which was pretty solid. Radiance 6.1 runs great on my wife's phone.
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
On my evo i started compiling cm7.2 once a week or so then just wipe caches and flash the new one over the old i usually only compile when something new has been added that catches my eye or when several new things i dont really care about have been added the rest of the time im compiling cm9 for either the evo or my kindle fire and fixing to start compiling it for my et4g soon gotta figure out the ins and outs of this phone cuz its boot img is way different than my evo or fire
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
Nice post evil, care to share? :p
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
The cm9 on the evo isnt as smooth as the aokp yet it works pretty well on my fire but then again it only has wifi no cam no phone etc so alot of stuff can be left out for it , the evo however my last compile had battery issues and random forcecloses that were annoying ad hell but ive been having to mod the current ics kernel to play nice im hoping to find a devkit for a device or devices from htc with similar specs i can steal some drivers from to get the hardware working better right now im running 7.2 and only testing 9 for a day or so to see where i have it but atleast it boots up and most things will function once or twice before force close city kicks in
[EVO 4G General] kevlar3d:
I am tired of flashing back to stock to get prl updates. Any favorite Sense roms? I am running the october 2011 stable release of cm7 and have been since late october without any real issue however my prl is getting really stale so I need to do something in the next week or two.

Edit- I should mention that I am looking for a fully functional daily driver sense rom. I looked through this list http://evo4g.roms-db.com/ and was hoping to narrow it down to one or two that others have tried/liked.

I require 4g radio, gps, 3g data, wifi and wireless hotspot (like cm7)
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
The classic by tommytomatoe or mikg v3.0 or 3.1
[EVO 4G General] kevlar3d:
After running CM7 (per my previous post), i tried about 5 or 6 roms and eventually settled on mikg 3.1. Thanks for your help. Updated my hboot, radios, and prl easily and things are working really smoothly now. Reception issues are completely solved and 4g is working tons better. Thanks!
[EVO 4G General] crazzysandman:
You should try decks ginderbread I've been running it for a few days and I get about 9 hours of battery or so.... and its pretty fast
[EVO 4G General] CashMoneyMatt:
thanks everybody im goin for Mikg ROM
[EVO 4G General] BonezMontana:
I've been usin cm7.2 as my daily, but I've been playing around with the ICS roms as well. So far AOKP has been my choice. Can't wait for CM9 though!
[EVO 4G General] One_Shot_2012:
Even though its all about personal preferences, I was using Rainy Day, which was stable, smooth, and fast...battery life was ok. I'm currently running The Express latest build by OD and his team...awesome rom...very fast, great battery life even with heavy use!, stable, with a ton of space!
[EVO 4G General] jrollercoasters:
The express is a godly ROM, I switch roms a lot and and always find something, with express nothing is ever wrong, constantly updated with perks, and has themed and stock, the devs really know what thier doing, sense based but amazing, I love it so much, that's rare for me to say for a rom
[EVO 4G General] rose2jam:
I agree exspress is the way go for daily sense rom not any bugs but like what's been said its all personal preferences plus its almost in rc mode which is exciting

tummy 4g EVO
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inphormatika:
I've been having trouble flashing ICS ROMS on my tab. I think it's an issue with my cwm, but I am unable to flash a new one through the cwm I currently have. Heimdall works fine, but I jave searched for heimdall flashable cwms and the only ones I can find are old and have dead links.

Does anybody have a heimdall flashable CWM?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
Hmm, to get CWM, you should just be able to take a zImage from Overcome (if you have a compatible device) and use Heimdall to flash that. I do it all the time after I re-stock and it works fine for me.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inphormatika:
Is that compatible with the VZW CDMA tab?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] priyana:
Overcome is not compatible with CDMA devices, but who knows the recovery might boot ok. Willing to give it a shot?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew_Low:
The cm 7.1 beta in the dev forum comes in a heimdall friendly format. I'm not sure if its cdma friendly however.