yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
See that's just it though, even though technically I am playing by the rules, in the sense that I am not abusing the medianet plan, and that I am still a loyal paying customer, they still don't like the fact that I am using a tablet as a phone as well, because they're not getting as much money out of me as they could be, and in their eyes, should be.

Think about it. Can you go into an AT&T store right now and buy a tablet from them for anything other than pay-as-you-go? Nope. If you want data on your tablet, and you don't want to pay extra for its own 3G service, then you have to give up unlimited data and get an extra tethering add-on, so you'd have to pay extra that way instead.

AT&T doesn't want you to have a device that simply does it all. That's why they don't mind the Note so much, because frankly, having owned one since November, at the end of the day, it's really just a big Galaxy S2; if you want to do tablet stuff on it, you need a proper tablet, which the 7.7 is.

So here's the thing: By my buying an unlocked 7.7, thereby consolidating a true tablet and a smartphone, and by continuing to pay my $30/month unlimited plan, in AT&T's eyes, I'm effectively cheating them out of either pay-per-use data on one of their own 3G/LTE tablets, or I'm cheating them out of paying for a tiered plan instead, plus a tethering option. So yeah, they don't like that...

If US carriers had no issues with tablet's doubling as phones, then they would have allowed the original tab to keep its phone abilities, and Verizon wouldn't have gimped their version of the 7.7 so as not to be capable of making normal phone calls.

P.S. Let's just say for a moment that I played by their rules even more, and didn't seek any perfectly legitimate loopholes like buying unlocked, and say I buy their 5GB/month tiered plan at $50/month, and let go of my unlimited data at $30/month. That means that I'm locked in for at least $480 more over the course of a new 2 year agreement, and potentially more if I end up paying any overages. Now that's just me, one person. I'm effectively cheating them (in their eyes) out of that money. Imagine if every unlimited data user did that too (and there are millions of them). Now can you see why AT&T would hate to be cheated (in their eyes) out of all that money? No can you see why they hate having to honour service to unlocked devices?

In the end AT&T is still a corporation, so it's all about the money for them. Thus, if by buying an unlocked device you are keeping them from getting more money out you, then by corporate default, they are not going to happy with that.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] teiglin:
Carrier IQ sure, but it's being/has already been removed from AT&T devices, so it's no longer relevant. I didn't know about the Sprint proxy thing, but I've never heard of AT&T doing that. As for bloatware, my gut says that people who are knowledgeable enough to buy an unlocked handset from elsewhere are also not dumb enough to *use* AT&T bloatware when they do have AT&T-branded devices, and probably root and get rid of it immediately anyway.

I don't disagree with anything you said, but I don't see it as a compelling reason to try to block out non-AT&T-branded devices. Maybe the AT&T execs do.

Yeah this makes sense I suppose. They want to either screw you on a tethering package or a separate tablet data plan, though if you're me you just don't play by the rules and tether without getting caught (please don't notice AT&T). I guess this also explains why people only have issues with tablets or things that seem like tablets (I recall seeing a lot of APN issues for the int'l Note as well).

Personally, I probably wouldn't pay for a data plan for my tab even if couldn't tether--while the tab is pocketable, it makes an uncomfortable bulge (and I don't really want to get into carrying a murse around), so I stick to my GS2 as an actual phone. Plus, 80% or so of my tab use is at home, and if you add in places where there is wifi anyway that's probably more like 95%.

For those of you who have a phone and separate tab data plan, I'm curious: why are you willing to pay an additional $20-$35 every month for tab data? Need a general-purpose hotspot for, say, a laptop? Can't tether to your phone? Laziness/convenience?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Just another reason to buy unlocked. I tether all the time with no issues. Just because they may have removed CarrierIQ, doesn't mean they haven't possibly baked their own monitoring tools into their devices and we just haven't found them yet. (I'm paranoid like that). I mean, I know they could technically do deep packet inspection and figure out that you're tethering anyway, regardless of whether you're using an unlocked device or not, but as a network engineer myself, I know that doing that is VERY resource intensive, and probably not nearly as cost effective for them compared to running a small client-side monitoring tool that alerts them to anomalous user activity.

Not saying they wouldn't possibly perform packet inspection, just saying it's not as likely as monitoring tools of some kind or another.

Valid points indeed. In fact, before getting my 7.7, I almost decided on sticking with my GS2 and getting a Prime instead. As you said, WiFi is just about everywhere, and for places where WiFi isn't present, I could have just tethered to my GS2.

At this point, it's a matter of personal preference really. For me, I would much rather have only to carry one device on me than two, even if it does kinda force me into using a murse, which I've actually come to like quite a lot! That's why I went with the 7.7 instead; all-in-one device consolidation.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Actually, I think the way they're figuring out if users are tethering isn't from any logging utility on the device, but that they are using some kind of pinging utility from their server side. When they get a response with a TTL of a different value than whatever the default is then they can derive that your device is functioning as a router. That's just a guess and I could be totally wrong about the specifics, but I think that they're not really doing deep packet inspection but rather just tracing back requests for internet data and comparing that to the baseline device profiles they have.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] teiglin:
It's certainly possible, though I'm pretty sure I've heard of people getting caught on non-AT&T devices, as well as AT&T devices with non-AT&T-based ROMs, so at least in some cases they are performing deep inspection of packets (unless they just send out the effing letters at random, which is certainly plausible given the false positives some people have reported). And really, it's not like I need more reasons to prefer an unbranded device, since AT&T makes their equivalents worse almost every time. Still, I think there are a hundred other threads on these forums with all the various theories about how, when, and why they detect tethering, and I'm sure we have both read a number of them, so it probably isn't worth rehashing all this here. :)

I totally agree that it's about personal preference phone use. If you're liking carrying a murse around, more power to ya, but I'm happier being able to keep everything in my pockets.

Plus, when I am carrying the tab around, I like not having to worry about keeping it charged. I don't treat my GS2 batteries very well because I am always leery of having my phone battery die while I'm out somewhere, especially when I know I'll be tethering or playing games. But I'm really not worried about the lifetime of my $12 Anker batteries; if they don't hold a charge well tomorrow, they're super easy to replace. With the tab, I feel more obliged to take care of the non-replaceable battery--always let it almost fully discharge, not leaving it plugged in too long when fully charged, that sort of thing--and I would find that very inconvenient for my primary device.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] DenisIam:
I have both Note and GT7.7 3G

For me Note is much more nice in user experience then GT7.7

Note is well done from the box, but 7.7 needs to be tweaked before use (the luncher should be replaced, system font increased, minor bugs fixed etc).

If choosing the only device I will choose Note.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] hellodzulz:
Can someone help me to port this onto our device?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1523760

Sent By The AndroidHackr
[Optimus One, P500, V General] mDroidd:
Help?

Try flashing it or replacing things or build from source before ask?

Greets!

I'm not a fake.

I prefer people to reply to me and give feedback instead of thanking me!

But thanking me does show if you apreciate my works.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] hellodzulz:
Actually idk how to move things. Im just hoping someonee could put this into a rom thats all (:5

Sent By The AndroidHackr
[Optimus One, P500, V General] diazneoones:
Hello...

Check XDA main page now...Beats can be installed on any android device....i tested on my device and zip works like a charm....is side loaded and doesnt interfere actual libs..see some improvement on audio....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LordManhattan:
So, i'm seeing that the SII has a working version of B2G. Would it be possible to make it work on the Note too?

(For the noobs, B2G is not Android. It's Mozilla's HTML-based OS)

- Galaxy SII Thread

- Mozilla's own tutorial on how to boot B2G on the SII
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] theimaginaryage:
I'll second interest in this - I love Mozilla and I think this sort of an operating system is a good future to aim for, if a little ahead of its time right now. I hope we eventually see this brought to the Note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] herrsch0rdev:
very interested too! :)

[EDIT 2]

Yes, it is possible, we had to replace/add some drivers, but Kernel isn't very phone-specific
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mrmoor:
Do you know what to do? I would like to see it on my HTC Desire HD to :)

I think i'm able to do this with a bit more information ;)

thx
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LordManhattan:
I think i'd pull it, but i don't have enough power to do it. Minimum PC requirements are 4GB RAM and 64-bit Ubuntu 11.10. I have 2GB and 32-bit.

Sad panda indeed.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] herrsch0rdev:
Should work with some lower specs, i've read :). And if not, I could try to compile it for you, if it doesn't work

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I know how it works generally but not in detail, sorry. But LordManhattan looks like to know something more
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Sine.:
You could compile with less power, it only takes (a little to a lot) more time to compile depending on your configuration ;)

Watching pulser_g2 thread since he posted it, I would be very interested too :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LordManhattan:
Fair enough, i'll take a look at it. If it takes to long or it can't do it i'll give up (for now) :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] herrsch0rdev:
Good luck! :>
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] herrsch0rdev:
any news here?

I've read on a German newspaper the only thing to do for a port is extract needed (shouldn't be as much, since it works for S2 and many drivers are shared - anyone knows more about the other drivers?) drivers and add them to the boot-2-gecko project before compiling it like in https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Building_B2G_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S2
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holland3346:
I just got a Xoom and for one specific work function I do, I need a mouse. I see alot of threads about mouse & keyboards but I'm short on time and I'm not very 'techy" lol - so simply, can someone tell me of a mouse that works with the Xoom (doesn't matter if it works with a keyboard) and where to buy it? Also, I have no idea how to hook them up but thinking I can figure that out.

Thanks a bunch!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llama-power:
Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000. Works like a charm, even the "back-button";) Where to buy? I guess that depends on where you live.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holland3346:
Thanks so much! I can google where to get it but I chatted with Microsoft support & was told they've heard some some bluetooth work but they couldn't really tell me one.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holland3346:
Are they easy to hook up & get working?

I did find one for sale on Amazon.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llama-power:
not sure if this is true for non-custom-roms, but yes... Just press the "connect"-button on the bottom of the mouse, search for bluetooth-devices with your xoom, pair with the mouse, use 0000 as pin, done.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pravin_pran:
Hi team,

Since my joining XDA, i had flashed atleast 30-40 roms before being satisfied with a rom (i am currently using NightlyFourE V4.3.2 with default kernel, awsome performance with great battery backup).

Now that we are pretty close getting stable CM9 & MIUI ROMs for our devices, which i am pretty keen to use. My question is how many times i can flash new ROM on my device before starting to damage it, because everything has a limit and i am sure flashing ROM on the device would also have some limit.

I am using this device from last 10-11 months.

Experience users please help me.

Regards,

Pravin

Mobile:- LG P500

NightlyFourE V4.3.2 with default kernel (awsome battery backup)
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mDroidd:
Limit is 0.

When overclocking device (happens when using flashed rom), you over-use the processor. It is built for 600. If you want a good phone, use CNA, if you want warranty and LG ****tyness, restore to old.

Greets!

I'm not a fake.

I prefer people to reply to me and give feedback instead of thanking me!

But thanking me does show if you apreciate my works.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pravin_pran:
Your reply didnt help me to get ay answer. I didnt asked about overclock neither i worry about its default speed. If i wanted "warranty and LG ****tyness" i wouldnt have used the custom rom. Instead of trolling pl answer streight if you can. If limit was 0, no one could have flashed any ROM on their mobile.

As we know we install ROM on mobiles internal Flash Memory. How many ROM installation it will take before we start damaging "that" Flash Memory.

I hope you got my question.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ipse_Tase:
Usually NAND flash chips have a 500-1000 cycle lifespan (and that is a very conservative number).

I wouldn't worry and I work with flash equipped devices.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pravin_pran:
@ Ipse_Tase :-ur reply makes sense, thanks man
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myawan:
For USB Flash drives, Toshiba calculated that a 10,000 write cycle endurance would enable

customers to “completely write and erase the entire contents once per day for 27 years,

well beyond the life of the hardware.”

About data retention here is Kingston's claim: Kingston Flash storage devices are rated for up to 10 years under normal use.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pravin_pran:
Thanks brother, now i can flash all ROM withour any fear of damaging the mobile.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azyouthinkeyeiz:
What's the source for this? Just curious because I'd like to read it in it's entirety.
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drm1992:
There is a limit to how many times I can flash a Rom?
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myawan:
Yeah its interesting to read:
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laz3r69:
Better Check it out yourself n REPORT 2 US

;):p
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android311:
You will have a new phone by the time your phone starts to wear out..that's how I look at it :)
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allisterw:
The 27 year quote is from a press release

www dot toshiba dot com/taec/news/press_releases/2004/file_04_211.jsp

(Sorry not able to post urls yet)
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnajem:
27 years for a phone.

Our grandchildren will look at our phone as a brick
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
Hello Friends,

Here is another release of CM7 built by me...

UNOFFICIAL CYANOGENMOD 7.2.0 RC1 (2.3.7)

WORKING

:

UPDATE LINK IN DOWNLOAD SECTION.

SCREENSHOTS GO HERE(ITS WITH ICS THEME)

NOT WORKING

:

DONT FORGET TO PRESS THANX BUTTON. THANX FOR UR SUPPORT.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
DOWNLOAD:

Some other patcher coming soon.....
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
Change Log:
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
Installation:

FULL WIPE NEEDED IF U R FROM ANOTHER ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Syfer_Fever:
wow GREAT !!! :D

and wheres the download link? ;)

bug free? cool. thanks vish :)

got it, im to early enter this thread, great job vish thank you

btw this is 100% build from source AOSP?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Mr.Oug:
Is it ported or compiled from source...??
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] neil.richard:
Its really good to see the 1st Galaxy Fit Developer back in Action!...

Suggestion- Vish for Radio, why don't u use the Radio app that Squadzone has optimised in his Rc5?...its also available in other Ports for Fit!

=>I'm really looking forward for ur project cause ur customising the kernel which will result in better processing!...Hope for grear work soon.......!

galaxy fit + CM7.2 Rc5.5(2.3.7) + 801Mhz
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
nice bro, n1!!
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
Yes Its been built from source. Not ported.....
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
Working on FM Radio and saw that its working partially.... let me see..... i wil try......
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
Still making the thread.... Now have a look. Its complete..... Instruction given.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] justkiddinghere:
nice tryng now hope map works in it n no btry drainage problm as in

cm7.2 rc5
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Deshabilitado:
wow thank you, and welcome back vish :D

is there a way to have tw launcher on this CM7?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] aya.yaya:
Finally we have real cm7.2

Keep developing sir!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] sid_rangra:
In what ways.... RC0 is better than RC5.5 .. can some one tell me ..! :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Deshabilitado:
RC 5.5 its a port, this one is specifically for FIT :D
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] vishwanathptl:
i dont know.... i dont like twlauncher so..... u can search in google and reply here....
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Syfer_Fever:
RC0 is 100% built from source
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Vidyesh:
Do we have to install 2.3.4 before flashing dis? or on any ROM? :O
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
min 245, max whatever u want , governor preferable lilgv2 or smartassv2 depend on kernel, i/o sio for daily use . easy

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and check, set at boot
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
I have "No-Frills". I don't need download "No-Frills". There are more links to this OC 801 MHz of Squadzone CM7's OC kernel for fit. On RC 5.5. Full thic kernel is restarted my phone itself.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Syfer_Fever:
sorry didn't read that carefully, i thought you don't have No Frills app, sorry :)

btw my phone stuck at 763Mhz, can't go any further. dunno why. the phone always reboot

im really jealous to u guys who can OC up to 800Mhz lolz
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] swat4samp:
Same here cant oc over 763mhz..i can oc upto 774 but sometimes phn gets stuck :(..i think its phones hardware prblm:(
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] fvd23:
Hows this rom over RC 5.6

RC 5.6 has a few extra settings n options but none of d extra stuff is worth writing abt
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
OK. No problem. I installed all. Max. for me is 801 and till now is all fine. If be problems, I'll down MHz.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
Sundul Ĝäη
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
(ﾟｰﾟ)(｡_｡) yess appearance wonderful to...but lagging and unstable dude
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
Using OC 801mhz everyday all running fine...all works
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] -HellRaiser-:
i m so jealous of u as i cant even oc above 715.734 is unstable

damn.

but i still get 2200 benchmark at 734.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
i hope u dont run it for evryday all day at 801 performance/noop :D
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
I run all day sir...I use more than 64 apk..not include system apk ... if I don't OC 801mhz ... my phone will lags badly :)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
dont use performance all day, becouse its not good, u can oc it to 801, but use lilgv2 or smartassv2 , sio

having phone run at max freqfency allday and night with performance governor will just kill your processor, not to mention your battery life must be awfull
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] fvd23:
So mintz.

What do u recommended? ??
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
Thanks for the suggestion sir....will change smartass ƗƗɐƗƗɐƗƗɐ.... >̴̴̴̴̴͡.̮Ơ̴͡ ...!!!!.....but my battery live 6-8 hours

Btw I don't have lilgv2 and smartassv2 on governor
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
On kernel OC MHz 801 I've "lilgv2 and smartass", no have smartassV2.

On kernel OC MHz 763 have smartassV2, but no have lilgv2.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
lilgv2 is moded version of smartassv2 by squadzone. make sure you set min freq at 245.

you must have in custom kernels either of them
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
perfect :D u can lower max clock if feel like u dont need it. i keep at 600. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
Twice is restarted by itself. Now I'm down to 763 MHz.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Chirag219:
does dis rom hve battery life than creed's rom.????
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Mr.Oug:
More better than creeds
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
Using cm7.2 rc0.kang now + OC 844Mhz :)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
There are several OC 844 MHz. Which?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] neil.richard:
Hey bro!...Can u please provide me with the 844Mhz Kernel link?... ...PLZ...

:rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
it comes packed with ty-styles cm 7.2 rc0
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
Yupp...just like mr. Djozaa...
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
I don't it have.

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The problem is that I installed a OC 801 MHz. Now I must to tear down the system and re-install it.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] djozaa:
put min freqfency at 245 bro
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Chirag219:
can i install d task manager and fm radio app frm cm7.2 rc5.6 by ankkdroid by putting both d apk's in d installation zip file of dis cm??
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] minz_katro:
.,,,,,

::‧(◦ˆ ⌣ ˆ◦)::‧(y)

.Si!!!..

I'll do it right now

Thanks banget dude
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] -HellRaiser-:
yeah u can do that.

or if u r running it right now using root explorer go to system/app and paste task manager and othe apps there and give rw-r-r permisdion to them and reboot. done.

but i m not sure if radio app will work
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] martin_s5670:
oc 801 with SetCPU?

I want to use SetCPU, is it possible for oc 801 (Squadzone's CM7 OC kernel)? Has somebody tried this?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] -HellRaiser-:
it doeant matter if u use setcpu or any other oc app.just be carefull that u dont overclock to very high frequency at one go.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
I installed Cyanogenmod 7.2.0 RC0 and this is max.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] martin_s5670:
The same like me, but I have a max of 801 with Squad's kernel! Thanks a lot to Vish and Squadzone and all others in this very helpfull and engaged forum. For our little Fit-machine their work is not only great, it is exceptional.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] :
I need kernel OC 844 MHz.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] medo3abed:
and i want it too and sill wait fm radio for this great rom .
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Chirag219:
tnx bro.

and in d same way can i install other gb apps like the default messaging app and d contacts app???