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[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
its documented that all current devices are getting 3.6 the only phones getting 4.0 are the ones yet to be released.
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Alright that makes sense. It is a little disheartening. You would think they would update it to 4.0 without the extra camera features. Especially when the single core'd One V is getting 4.0. I know we will always get ports eventually, but those won't have 3D capability no matter what.

Thanks for sharing though. I am still going to hope for Sense 4.0 anyway (even though it's just wishful thinking) lol. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] aseercte:
These atlre our specs for the evo 3d if we don't get sense 4.0 that's lame.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
take it you just didn't read anything that I wrote above then....smh
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
My little rant aha

the One V specs?

1GHZ Single Core CPU

512MB of RAM

3.7 in 480x800

3G (no listed 4G compatibility)

And it ships with 4.0 out of the box.

The 3D

1.2 GHZ Dual-Core MSM8260 Proccesor

1GB of Ram

4.3 qHD display

4G and 3G

and will probably get sense 3.6? Kindof messed up. I mean I understand the whole camera aspect of it...but thats not ALL sense 4.0 is about. I mean yes it is a great big portion of it, but not everything.

My reasoning: The One S has a qhd display (same resolution and screen size of our 3d) so that can't be an issue, CPU, GPU, and RAM isn't really an issue.

The One X has a lower quality camera than the other 2 in the One line (although probably still far superior to our phones)

The only problems HTC should have a real tough problem with is 3D support and fixing the camera for our sensors.. which as a huge national company they should have the resources to do that for us the customer.

That being said I understand what sgt.slaughter is saying...I just like to rant

Maybe im making a bigger deal than it is, but its just a little upsetting. I feel like a samsung owner. That one might hurt a couple of you :p
[HTC EVO 3D] piti2k5:
i hope 4.0
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
visually 3.6 and 4.0 are not far off at all from what ive seen. The camera stuff was the headline feature of Sense 4.0 and they made it apparent in the event. besides that all thats left that sense 3.6 doesn't have is the beats integration and the dropbox stuff really...the camera is a big enough chunk to not get it when you take a step back and look at it all.
[HTC EVO 3D] majid25:
HTC confirmed that all the devices that are going to get ICS will be sense 3.5. Check their Facebook page all the information is there.
[HTC EVO 3D] aseercte:
I'm just saying theres no reason for us not to get 4.0,HTC said them self they even slim down 4.0 for better performance. I remember when I had the evo 4g and it got gingerbread there was no new improvements on sense besides running gingerbread.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
please read. already linked in this thread they stated all will be Sense 3.6.

---------- Post added at 09:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 PM ----------

not reading as well....read the actual things that require to get Sense4.0 features they touted and youll see no current phone has the f/2.0 lens nor do they have the dedicated image chip both of which are vital to using Sense4.0 features they touted.

at this point those wanting 4.0 you can just edit the files to say you have 4.0 and you wont know any difference. Only thing possible your missing is dropbox, wifi sync manager, and full integrated beats...
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
There is a pretty big difference between 3.6 and 4.0. Lockscreen differences, keyboard, system apps like music, animations, and so on. It's more refined. 3.6 is basically 3.5 with ICS.

We will see fully working ports eventually though. Just as we did with the OG EVO and Sense 3.0/3.5.
[HTC EVO 3D] nadomars:
I could have sworn they said that the Sensation elevate program users were going to get a Sense 4.0 beta, so I would then assume that the Sensation would get Sense 4.0, and therefore, so would we. I certainly hope so! Then again, the original Evo 4G has sense 3.0 ROMs, so i'm sure the wonderful developer community could get a 4.0 one working perfectly on our phones, in fact, there's already one in development! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Well unfortunately not. HTC just said 4.0 ICS not Sense UI. As stated here

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-ann...iews-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates-20120215/
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
3.6 god willing sense 4 is ugly
[HTC EVO 3D] maek_it_happen:
I want sense 1.5
[HTC EVO 3D] tvsamson:
another problem is that it seems like they have to many phones on the market to worry about already
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
haven't flashed either here on my phone so just going off photos here. only real diff looks like the rosie in 3.6 extends to the edges of the screen where it stops short on 4.0 right?
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
That's um interesting :D

I believe all phones with 3.0 by default should be updated to sense 4.0. And my beloved EVO Shift..I have a bias for that phone

3.6 and 4.0 have a lot different visually and functionally. 3.6 looks more like...well..sense, while 4.0 is a Middle ground between classic sense and ICS. I really like the look of 4.0. And the functionality seems a lot better (App Drawer, adding widgets etc.)
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Just not seeing it. Rosie is only thing that looks different in the pics...the default theme of the rosie is obv diff too but that's switched through scenes and such easily.

App drawer is same in 3.6 and 4.0 I'm pretty sure...
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
The Sense 4 rosie is the first and only thing I noticed. UGLY!
[HTC EVO 3D] aseercte:
Well **** it what ever comes at long it is ics
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
3.6 first sense 4.0 later
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
To each their own. I think Sense 4 is a decent improvement UI-wise over 3.6. Cleaner and more streamlined. Even looks a bit like ICS.

Not saying that earlier senses are bad, but I like the cleaner, less bloated look of 4.0 much better personally.
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
sense 3.6 it seems the only devices recieving official sense 4.0 updates from HTC are their msm8x60 lte devices..The ATT and HTC Have already officialy announced that the HTC Vivid [LTE ATT] is getting sense 4.0 along with Android 4.0 and also getting HTC Beats along with it...
[HTC EVO 3D] thizzlemania91:
Sense 4.0 looks way better than 3.6, the rosie on 3.6 looks hideous. Like the rest of the other sense version. HTC actually incorporated a 5 row dock which makes everyone happier :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mnomaanw:
Does the Sense 3.6 have scroll-able wallpaper like Sense 4.0?
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
btw ATT did NOT specify Sense 4.0 on the Vivid. Just that it would be an "updated Sense experience..." with the Android 4.0 upgrade.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/26/2823861/htc-vivid-android-40-beats-audio

Do we need to start a thread betting on devices getting Sense 4.0? lol jk willing to bet none get it less they have the dedicated image chip they talked so much about improving Sense 4.0 camera...

I will say though the fact that they are adding Beats to the device's upgrade leaves us 3D users somewhat hopeful that we might get Beats added in too "officially."

BTW love the new Android Image in your signature. the "mean" look is cool as hell :)
[HTC EVO 3D] 44pillowspa:
I knew the 3d camera was a waste when I purchased this evo. But I never imagined it would get in the way of updates.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Why don't you stop just telling people that you don't think that there is much difference and actually run it for a bit so that you can see what's different? Because it is different. Probably the biggest change in Sense ever.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
No one ever said it is. Its getting in the way of some development on ICS here, but we'll still get upgraded around the same time as the other non-Sensation phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
touche.:D

BUT id venture to say from a visual aspect change from 3.0 to 3.6 is the biggest change...actually just noticed the white menus are not even in 3.6 from videos so u win. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
Eh. I looked at 3.5/3.6 as a more streamlined 3.0. Same menus and similar Rosie, lock screens, etc etc etc

I didn't think Sense 4.0 was a ton different before I ran it. But it feels different and new, like using 3.0 after running 1.0 on the OG Evo. Everything feels more refined. If 3.5 was a streamlined 3.0, 4.0 is a streamlined 3.5.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2012/02/w...tml?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

On my phone and don't want to look for the next evo thread or start a new one, sorry op.

Slaughter or anyone, do you know what HTC music hub is? I heard it might be a beats enabled Google Music. Anyways this article mentions the hub and I don't know what it is.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah didn't realize the menus n all were themes different.

But lockscreen looks bout same on all though and rosie is much diff from 3 to 3.6 than 3.6 to sense4.0 as its the same shape in the later with slight adjustment.

Regardless both are big jumps from 3.0 and 4.0 adds a few more visual tweaks not in 3.6.

I don't count 3.5 bc we never saw that here n it didn't add much difference from 3.0. And when talking 3.5 I'm talking about the actual official 3.5 not the leak of 3.6test that at the time was named 3.5.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah they discussed this some at their PC event. Talked how sense4.0 allowed WiFi syncing with ur computer and once u installed HTC manager on the pc it would automatically sync with ur phone and such. They didn't spend much time on it though bc the big thing was the camera.

Also a tad on their media device/hub that you could hook into any tv and stream directly to it.
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
I hate to be that guy...the dreaded pessimist, we will definitely get ICS, but don't be too surprised if Android 4.0 drops with Sence 3.0 for the Sprint 3d. I only say this because to many folks surprise, this very scenario happened in the past on the og Evo....a major Android update with the same old version of Sence even though other similar phones on other carriers got a Sence upgrade with that Android upgrade. Just sayin....happened before, could happen again.
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Yea that happened with the OG EVO and The EVO Shift actually got the Sense 2.1 update (I loved that phone lol), but the EVO shipped with android 2.1 so Gingerbread was its second major android firmware upgrade while this will be the 3D's first. When the EVO got Android 2.2 there was no later sense version (like a 1.5) developed to push it to.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
I hope so, Sense 3 is great if you're on viper or mean rom. 3.5 is cool but I hate how 4 looks!
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
The one V doesn't have the image chip to my understanding. Weren't there some sense 4.0 leaks for the sensation?
[HTC EVO 3D] domon07:
nope, it's very different. Watch youtube vids of htc one x with sense 4.0 so you can see that they change everything. App is now scrolling horizontally. Tab changing in 3d. Multi-tasking is different. Adding app and widget on homescreen looks visually good. And many more.. i hope there will be ports with the 3d camera enabled.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
na the OneV has the Image Chip just like the other "One" series devices do.
[HTC EVO 3D] anthrofear:
I'm happy with my phone sans sense altogether... just sayin. toastcfh's alpha 3 of CM7 runs better then sense anything in my opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
hehe thanks but the update to beats audio for vivid kinda points it will be getting sense 4.0..right now all theyre sense 4.0 leaks include beats audio while sense 3.6 has a no beats verison and beats version..but i gues we will have to wait to see what ATT does for the moment the Vivid is their HTC flagship phone to my understanding
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
really? their leaks have "full beats" or just the beats that work on the HTC app?...

anyway here ya go.

http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/ht...elease-date-coming-weeks-android-4-ics-18559/

but find it more unlikely they get Sense 4.0 since ATT is getting the OneX...but like you said we will see...

ha ima say it again. Baddest looking Android there in your signature!!
[HTC EVO 3D] john586:
I look forward to sense 4.0
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
IMO, they will have sense 3.6 or less.

From marketing perspective, it makes sense to leave sense 4.0 for the One-series only so people will upgrade and boom sales.
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
I doubt they will give less than 3.6. I just don't have the same on a marketing perspective.

1) Most people (Read: Average consumer) don't really know about the major functionality differences in Sense 3.0,3.6,4.0 etc. So they don't have a huge outlying need to buy a phone because of "Sense 4.0"

2)Most of the people who do understand these major differences between the Sense software versions don't feel the need to upgrade to a new device BECAUSE it has "Sense 4.0" because they know that with devices like this, they will get ports of the update from our outstanding developers.

So I don't ,in my eyes, see "Sense" being a major sell point for HTC or the providing carrier.

Just think of HTC and Sprint come our with a commercial and say something like "This phone comes with "Sense 4.0"!" ...Average consumers don't give a flying F*** (pardon) but if they were to say - "This phone comes with an HD Display, and Super advanced camera lens, and much faster performance!" Peoples heads turn and they get the attention of a consumer because they (HTC) uses terms the consumer can relate too and familarize with.

People know of HD TV's , they know of crappy camera phones, and they can relate to having slow mobile phones (and PC's.)

They don't understand "Sense UI"

(Most average people I talk to actually refer to my phone as an "HTC" not a "Sense" or "Android" phone)

Sorry I know this was a long drawn out post, but I have a bad habit of that. and this wasn't to downgrade what you said at all I just go a little crazy with the keyboard xD
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Why is it even a question.....HTC clearly said all current devices will receive 3.6.....go read for yourself.
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
We have already read that.if you read back sgt.slaughter posted the article about it, a bit after the thread was made. But that doesn't mean everything is completely set in stone.plus this thread has served a good purpose of letting people share thier opinions and gather new info.

But thanks for that redundant comment.
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
Plus some devices were never supposed to even get sense 3.0 And the desire HD did anyways HTC has only guaranteed a 3.6 update however they haven't said anything about 4.0 never coming to older phones. I even received a bit of clarification from HTC on there Facebook page that they would be announcing specific information on sense updates in the near future.
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
Well the Sensation has a ICS source right now and it is 3.6...I can't imagine why we would get 4.0. Not to be a debby downer but just saying :)
[HTC EVO 3D] tyler.durden:
Lol, yes! Sense 1.5 for the win! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] sonspot:
Well I had my evo 3d on kijiji so its either getting sold or ICS soon which ever comes first, so disappointed in HTC... all said, sense 4 would be nice
[HTC EVO 3D] jles1693:
Honestly Sense 3.6, Sense 4.0, with beats, without beats, there is just too much speculation and not enough info to say what will or will not be included in the update, we will just have to wait and see, bottom line is, HTC is going to do what they do, Sprint is going to do what they do, we will get what they give us, and if we dont like it or want more, we will just install custom rom's like we always do..
[HTC EVO 3D] addiz:
IF the evo will receive 3.6 instead of 4.0 , when is the question ?

The update for SGS II has a date
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
We WILL get 3.6, and I'm guessing April or May.
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Hey nothing is completely 100% for sure yet ;). But yes most likely sense 3.6 seems to be the best bet

This could be a desire hd incident
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
All the signs point to 3.6. Besides the announcement, the Vivid is confirmed to be 3.6 and all of the leaks are 3.6. You guys are in denial.
[HTC EVO 3D] ricohz:
i agree with you, but i have no doubt our devs will me through:):):)
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
You are absolutely right. I really don't understand how people can even have an ounce of hope that there is a possibility of Sence 4. face the facts folks, we're gonna be damn lucky to get Sence 3.6....4 is out of the question.
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
i believe we will definitely get 3.6. Im just trying to point out , that knowing the rash and fast changing decisions that HTC has been known to make, their is always possibilities of future updates of the sort.

Its not denial ,because I could care less at this point its all sense , but its just not letting certain pieces of evidence out now derail future thoughts :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Emerl:
Were you, or are you studying phycology?
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Um I took a couple classes awhile back on sociology and the sort ,but never ,majored in it at all. It was always interesting but I enjoy programming more than working with people lol
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
My thoughts exactly. I'm always baffled to see people get their hopes up about official releases. Most people here don't realize what a minority we are among the masses of people who own Android devices. Most people don't know what the difference between Sense 1.0 and Sense 3.0 is, and they don't really care either. I've never seen anyone with an OG Evo who wasn't in tune with the development community say "I'm angry that I didn't get Sense 3.0 with my GB OTA. My jimmies are indeed rustled."

They say "Hey cool, an update" and move on with their lives.

The best stuff always comes from the devs. The OG Evo is but a single example. It never got Sense 3.0, but you can sure as hell find a ROM or three for it. In a few months, we'll have 3.6 and 4.0 ROMs abound and everyone will shut up until Jelly Bean comes along, which we will eventually have running on this phone too.
[HTC EVO 3D] Emerl:
Oh, lol I asked because u stated the fact about how ppl would see things and such...it was worded very nice :D
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Oh thanks lol :D, I've just had the "pleasure " of having a parent in marketing, and also hanging around a family who, for my whole life, has had no clue about the details of new tech lol
[HTC EVO 3D] twister99403:
I wish our phone would start seeing stuff like this... http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-vivid-get-ics-coming-weeks-leak-available-now-brave#comments
[HTC EVO 3D] anobahar:
4.0 is the last thing of sense. HTC is movin on....
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
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10 char..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] plmosqueda:
Hello:

As i write i have a problem with SGA, my model is S5830L. I have noticed whe i installa custom stock rom i have ramdom reboots when i conected to my home wifi. I have a Belkin G router. This only happen when i am conected to wifi and installig apps from market. Tested with stock unmodded rom and CM7 all roms based and works very fine. This is very weird.

Thank you i wil apreciate your comments
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pyronia:
Bugfree rom? Haha funny...

regards,

•ƒγяύs ργяσ™• eBuddy XMS pin: A24D43B9

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[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyhassen:
I haven't had this phone for a while so i forgot most of the stuff. But i gave it to my mother and i noticed theirs a new radio out which i think would be good for her. But I don't want to brick. So how can i find out if the MD5 is good for my mothers phone.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] letmeputdatipin:
Download md5 checker from da market!

Let Me Put My Shift In U!
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyhassen:
i tried that. but idk what files to load to find out if its the same.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
The md5 is posted in the thread. I use Android File Verifier from the market. Just locate the PG06IMG.zip through app and you'll see the option to check the md5sum.
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] one_love_420:
Android Terminal Emulator [note: not all phones can do this since the md5sum utility may not be present/installed] by typing "md5sum filename"

Clearly change "filename" to the file name you are checking on
[EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sparksco:
md5 sum is a busybox command...so if you're on stock unrooted sense it won't work in terminal since it doesn't have busybox. "Most" rooted sense roms have busybox installed though along with bash
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Galileo:
hey i have a treo 750 with wm6.1rom and i was wondering if anyone had a copy of xcpuscalars full version the 15 box one, id really appreciate if anyone could share it, thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Simonas0:
Hi, I have a ROM with XCPUScalar 3.03. You can download ROM and extract XCPUScalar.

https://07xsdw.bay.livefilestore.co...m7RbWpWIL6cVDqfJrONQ/MDOC.DIO?download&psid=1

Rename MDOC.DIO to OS.nb (.dio and .nb are same type)

If I helped you press Thanks button!
[HTC Sensation] Razpr:
Oh god... i knew i shouldve read on more but i decided to just "get lucky".

OK so A while ago i was Using Virtuous Inquisition 3.0.0 which had in the thread a PG58IMG.zip file and i placed that on my SD card and updated it via the phone itself with fastboot or whatever (pressing VOl - and Power). That ran smooth and all that. Im guessing that VI 3.0.0 ran on sense 3.5 and it was 3.24 Firmware ( i still dont know how i can check my firmware, i just know that the rom ran on that firmware and if i was using it i mustve been on Firmware 3.24).

Now i wanted to try out HyperNonSense ICS BUT i needed to upgrade to 3.30...

I didnt know how to go about that because i never had a guide in the first place when i updated to 3.24 (from whatever gingerbread ran which i never found out) and i just kind of flashed the PG58IMG file and everything worked perfectly. Now i went to the User friendly Firmware http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1459767 (User-friendly... not noob friendly because i didnt know how to do **** there) and i downloaded an app on my phone called CID finder. Which didnt really give me any number on the top and said T-Mob010. I assumed from that list i had to download the PG58IMG that was under TMOB because T-Mob010 displayed on my phone was listed there.

Downloaded that file, flashed it, then flashed hypernonesense and its stuck in a boot loop. actually any rom is stuck in a boot loop. Is there any way to recover from this? HTC pops up, then the loading screen pops up for about 0.5 of a second and reboots back to HTC
[HTC Sensation] Razpr:
Great. Cant even mount USB storage from CWM.
[HTC Sensation] droidboy29:
Put the PG581MG.zip that worked before back on your SD card and go through hboot again and it should redo the firmware. If you can't mount SD through your usb you might have to use a USB card reader to put the PG581MG.zip back on your SD card.
[HTC Sensation] Razpr:
Oh god it worked. How do i check my CID and MID so i can make sure of what i download now and that it works for my phone? i keep writing

fastboot getvar cid

fastboot getvar mid

on cmd (on my computer) and nothing works. not recognized as a command.
[HTC Sensation] malybru:
Hi,

Have you got ADB correctly installed?

Check HERE

:)
[HTC Sensation] Insomnis:
Have you flashed fw with unlocked hboot? If not - you cannot use fastboot commands anymore
[HTC Sensation] status_six:
To find your original CID enter getprop ro.cid into terminal emulator on your device.

Have you got superCID?

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] albinoman887:
i know this sounds dumb but i think your sd card needs to be partitioned. if your not worried about losing data just partition it in CWM recovery it should then mount and i THINK boot
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrKickstand:
Like the title says, i usually use Opera but its not working on the current ICS rom I'm using on my G2x, so in every ones eyes what's the best browser that supports Flash and HTML5 in your opinion and why, the current stock browser isn't cutting it for me.