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[Asus Transformer TF700] setmeupnow:
[i was thinking about that too but the only thing that I, personally, might be interested in that should come out sometime before 2013 would be the galaxy note 10.1. actually, has anyone heard anything else in terms of new FullHD android tablets? ]

For me, this is the rub. I resisted getting myself a tablet in 2011, and there were a LOT more to choose from. TF, thrive, iconia, xoom, streak, galaxy, touchpad...

But I knew the feature I wanted to wait for was a higher than 1280x800 display. I originally thought the Prime was going to be the tablet that delivered it, and was very disappointed when I saw that it did not (though perhaps that was a blessing in disguise). The soonest way to get Android with FullHD seems to be the Infinity or the Iconia... an advantage that becomes less and less significant the longer we have to wait for it.

IMO, most of the mistakes should be very close to being worked out given that none of the major players are "new" to making tablets.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
+1k...hahaha

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It's funny you mention that because coming from an OG Evo i fell in love with the kickstand. the MS Surface tablet has one and wow is it sexy. The screen now is less appealing in a way...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cleanskinned:
Does the Infinity have stereo speakers as stated on the Asus website? That is one feature I really like about my Galaxy Tab 10.1. I have used the iPad 3, and the mono speaker is quite noticeable when watching any videos. You can clearly discern which side the sound is coming from.

The Microsoft Surface looks interesting, but the 16:9 display ratio is an instant turn off.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
ok... now finally at home it's time for some benchmarks !

CPUSpy infos :

http://bayimg.com/kAPPEAAdd

RL Benchmark :

http://bayimg.com/KapPIAadd

Androbench :

http://bayimg.com/kappJaadd

I think I forgot a benchmark request but can't figure wich one :-/

Now I'll try to set up something with my Canon 550d to take the best pictures I can to compare the screen of my Razr, Xoom, TF700 against my Samsung F2380 calibrated monitor.

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Hum... no , for me the sound comes only from the right of the tablet (and on the left there is no speaker holes)
[Asus Transformer TF700] pawo99:
+1
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
16:9 can't be that bad. TPI is 16:10...and when you factor in the size of the bottom row it might as well be 16:9 on the home screen. =]
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Concerning Quality:

I believe Asus no longer has assembly plants in Taiwan and is using China. The closest city in China (about 350 miles away) is Shenzhen which coincidentally does a fare amount of tablet assembly work!

Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfyAjkPIYyc&hd=1

Being a manufacturing Q.C. guy from Detroit, it is obvious (to me) that if the Asus's assembly process is anything close to the process in this video... the failure rate would be pretty high! Seems like many places in the line where steps could be missed.

NOTE: This video is NOT an Asus tablet, but is just the closest Chinese city Taiwan.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JamesRC:
Thanks for taking the time to run these and post the results :)

Looks like the I/O performance is no better on the TF700 than the Prime TF201 or TF300.

Definitely waiting to see if that gets fixed before buying...
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
Sorry, I should have been clearer. If my brother brings it from the USA to Ireland I will be paying him the € equivalent and thus should then get it for €394 ;-)
[Asus Transformer TF700] IronSheik:
Reportedly to cost $600(RT) / $800(Pro)

Microsoft outsource Surface tablets to Pegatron; expected prices above US$599
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Your link there seems to be 404-ing. Perhaps you meant to do this?

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120619PD210.html

At that high a price, I dont see the WinRT model having any success. For me personally, that's the highest amount I'd be willing to pay for the TF700, and that's only because of the high DPI screen which that model of surface lacks. The Pro model might do a bit better, but then that's a different market.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pawo99:
according to this official page here in specifications is mention about stereo speakers :o

http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
[Asus Transformer TF700] newellj79:
All transformer models (300/201/700) do have stereo speakers. The bummer is they are mounted right next to each other on the right side of the tablet where the "holes" are. But yes, technically it is stereo. The design is significantly flawed for a "high end" device. :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
It probably does technically have stereo speakers, but not stereo sound. Just like the Prime, it may have two speakers but they would be placed directly beside each other under the one speaker grille. So, you don't actually get stereo sound from it even though ASUS doesn't mind marketing "stereo" speakers.

*EDIT:

Also, following the link, I see no mention of the speakers other than the vague "ASUS SonicMaster Sound technology."
[Asus Transformer TF700] IronSheik:
thx...it inserted xda in front of it so fixed it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] matthelm:
Any heat buildup while running the test?
[Asus Transformer TF700] yumms:
Well those are disappointing :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
No, not particularly
[Asus Transformer TF700] NeoMagus:
I guess this means US cant import either? For anyone interested
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtavera:
you all guys are lucky, in mexico we just have the prime, and it cost 8999 pesos. that means 656 dollars.... :$ and we might get the infitit till the next year.... :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] rquellet:
What are you talking about? I just ran both of the storage benchmarks that he ran on the TF700T on my Galaxy Nexus and the TF700T was faster (less time required for reads and writes).

I haven't compared how these values match up against my TF201, but I'll run it soon. This looks like good news, not bad news...

Please correct me if I've misinterpreted something here.
[Asus Transformer TF700] yumms:
My Androbench scores on my single core Thunderbolt are faster than those posted above, I was going by that.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Your Thunderbolt might just have exceptionally good IO, not the TF700 having bad IO. The only way to tell if this was genuinely improved is to compare with either a TF201 or a TF300.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Okaaaaay... this was a little tricky but I think I made my best with screen tests !

All the pics are 2592x1728 resolution made from my Canon EOS 550D with a 15-85mm lens @ F/3.5 & ISO 100

Top = Samsung F2380m (calibrated) - C-PVA

Left = Motorola Razr - AMOLED

Center = Asus Infinity TF700 - IPS

Right = Motorola Xoom - IPS

I did all the tests with the android app "Display Tester" with 100% brightness in the App and Android Settings.

On the TF700 the option IPS+ "outdoor" is disabled because the screen is already very very bright enough and it does nothing on the colors, just add more brightness

I made snapshots directly from the TF700 to display the same image on my monitor

Withe levels :

http://bayimg.com/papPEAAdD & http://bayimg.com/PAPPHAadd

& http://bayimg.com/AAPAEAaDE

I have a dream... one day all the smartphones and tablet will come with calibrated screens... *sigh*

It think the colors of the TF700 are very warm but not yellowish like some of you feared, the xoom is very cold and the Razr... well... mostly "blue" (thanks AMOLED >_<" )

Black levels :

http://bayimg.com/pApPjaadD & http://bayimg.com/aAPAFAaDE

The dark levels of the TF700 IPS screen are very very good (no match for the amoled Razr but a lot better than the Xoom IPS)

But on the second image I did a longer exposure time and you can see the uniformity is not that great, there is a small cloud effect on the screens (this is not a reflection, I did all the photos with all lights off in the room)

-Bottom left of the TF700

-Top right on the Xoom

-Both tops on the Samsung (yeah... I know... sad...)

-Not at all on the Razr (yeaaaaaaaah AMOLED rocks in the dark )

Vivid colors :

http://bayimg.com/AaPagAaDe

Yep... the TF700 still very warm on his colors

Green colors :

http://bayimg.com/AAPAkaADE & http://bayimg.com/aApAmAAde

On the second image you can see the benefit of the FullHD screen of the TF700 ! There is just so much more details than the Xoom screen

Brown colors :

http://bayimg.com/AapAlAAde

Same here, very crisp and sharp details

Blue colors :

http://bayimg.com/AapaOAADe

Remember when I said the Razr is more blue than the others ? This is just ridiculous

Dark colors :

http://bayimg.com/aaPaPaAde

Look at the moon to see the difference in temperature colors

Light colors :

http://bayimg.com/BapAcaade & http://bayimg.com/bapADAadE

Here you can definitely see how much warm is the TF700 and how much cold was the Xoom (and how much green (?) is the Razr T_T )

So... after I did all this tests , YES the benefit of the FullHD screen is great ! The pixel density just make everything more sharp and pleasant to the eye.

Despite the fact the color temperature of the screen is a little bit to warm the colors are not that bad afterall !

I'm off to sleep now... If you have another requests just ask and I will do it tomorrow
[Asus Transformer TF700] rquellet:
Here are the results of Androbench and RL Benchmark on my Transformer Prime (TF201). The TF700T is much faster at browser, market, and camera...
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Wow, thanks nivlheim_o_O? for taking the time to put those shots together. I'm feeling MUCH better about the TF700 screen now. As I think I might have mentioned, I prefer warmer screens over colder screens, and the colors do look nice.

Damn, looks like I need to get kind of excited again, and I was trying to avoid that after the Prime fiasco... :D

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By the way, I'm sure somebody's already asked, but once you get an idea of battery life, that would be appreciated as well. And we should take up a collection for all the work you're doing putting this info together. Thanks!
[Asus Transformer TF700] sketcherstud:
Thanks

Wow, thank you SO much for this. I was hesitant about the Infinity after hearing about the Microsoft Surface. After seeing these photos however, I have no reservations about getting it. Seriously man, thanks a ton for this. It's nice to see someone willing to spend the time to share with the community.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
I think you forgetting one important detail..lol

Stock infinity pad is clocked higher than stock prime. my prime, overclocked, on latest build, sio scheduler, & build.prop tweaks scores alot better than what's shown for infinity or what u posted.

Thanks xda-developers ;) Prime still holding it down!

P.s. playstore app installation lag is completely gone ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Any chance you could use some other image hosting service, nivlheim? Bayimg is blocked here (and I'm travelling, so no options really), probably due to the connection with Pirate Bay.

I'm forced to use a fairly slow RDP connection to see them now :p

Edit: That said, much appreciated that you're taking your time with all these questions and whatnot!
[Asus Transformer TF700] pnharrison:
Interesting... you're saying you get better performance results with an overclocked Prime than the stock Infinity posted here, even though the Infinity is running at a higher clock speed.

Can you share your figures?

Makes one think the Infinity must have potential for similar tweaking & improvement... no?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
Its most likely because of the scheduler used. If the TF700 is anything like Asus's other tablets it'll have good developer support, so if we need it we'll have it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] NeoMagus:
Here is my stock locked rooted cfq. Some better some not in Androbench, better in Antutu and Quadrant obviously with a 1.9 stock kernel if his setup was the same as mine it should be faster on the 700.. would be nice
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Edited because I was totally misunderstanding the post I'm responding to...
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
most of these prime tweaks THST only need root should be able to be used on infinity pad also. like overclocking, changing scheduler, possibly even the new system boost. After I had finished testing new build, I rooted. then overclocked to 1.6ghz. then added the build.prop tweaks on top, then changed scheduler to the new Simple one(SIO), then I just topped it all off with the new system boost from developement. Man this prime is blazing fast now. all my app store apps installed the fastest it has ever done and I can still browse web or do other things with NO LAG at all. it seems like this combo does the trick. from my previous post, I was talking about all those tweaks minus new system boost. I just now added system boost mod. time to do some more benchmarkings and stuff to see the improvements in I/O.

Never count the prime out though. with developement here, it'll get your prime screaming. I said 6 months ago THST prime will still be able to hold its own. power/speed and benchmarking wise once these new devices drop. good thing about prime is we have a huge headstart in developement over most new tabs in 2012. Especially other tegra3 ones. Once prime finally gets NVFLASH, its a wrap. Developers taking off the gloves and going bare fisted against the competition. No holds Barred developement..lol. The prime, with all its flaws, was a first of its kind. it paved the way for future devices to be better. especially when it comes to wireless connectivity..lmao

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what firmware is your excite running? one thing I've noticed, when it comes to I/o or disk speeds and whatnot, is that the older android versions are usually at the too of the list. devices on froyo & gingerbread be the fastest for some reason. especially on rlswlite benchmark and similar ones. this is only in those categories though. they still get blown out CPU power wise and all the other usual main ones.

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what firmware is your excite running? one thing I've noticed, when it comes to I/o or disk speeds and whatnot, is that the older android versions are usually at the too of the list. devices on froyo & gingerbread be the fastest for some reason. especially on rlswlite benchmark and similar ones. this is only in those categories though. they still get blown out CPU power wise and all the other usual main ones.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
It's an ICS device, 4.0.3. Isn't officially released yet, actually (this is a review unit).

Incidentally, it's also Tegra 3, and performs as well as you'd expect for a 1.3GHz device. Actually a nice tablet across the board (I'll be posting a review soon on my blog).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Beknatok:
Interesting... I asked someone who got the Acer A700 t run the same benchmarks for a quick comparison.

Overall very comparable! Thank you both for these.

ASUS Infinity:
[Asus Transformer TF700] opentoe:
Black tar for me.

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This is a joke also. While they say it does have stereo speakers, the two little speakers are right next to one another and they face AWAY from you. There us no stereo seperation at all, how can there be, and you need to be in a complete silent room to hear anything since the sound shoots away from you. The Prime sold for $500, I would say this is going to be priced more.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
its one thing to have a bad experience with asus or whatever. but that user is clearly on something. This is the most trolling ive seen in a long time. he is trying to convince people to stay away from asus products or whatever. all he has to do is say it once and be done with it. but noooo, every single post of his today has basically been rants and trolling posts.

He has been reported. Mods will deal with him shortly. He is way too overboard. people do want to hear honest opinions on how device performs. Not some repeated rants of how he hates asus or whatever. He on a quick road to a vacation from xda. He is seriously trolling and dont give a damn...lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
Wow, they are some pathetic performance by both tablets.

For reference, this is the type of # we want......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XuXP_gGxGg
[Asus Transformer TF700] technobuzz:
Its good to see this forum getting updated so frequently everyday. Thats the only thing which is keeping excited about Infinity right now, since the delay is causing me losing interest. This is my first tablet that i'll be buying, and i'm sooooooo waiting for it to get released soon!!!!

I really hope 25th June will bring some good news!!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
TF300 first impressions

I finally decided to go ahead an "borrow" a TF300 for two weeks. It's my first tablet so I guess I must not be hard to impress. I mainly use Windows at work and at home. I'm quite happy with it so far. There are tons of great apps.

My only disappointment is google drive/docs. I use MS Word and Excel a lot, mostly Excel. When I decided I was going to get an android tablet, I converted a lot of files to google docs, to try it out and also because I expected that they would work flawlessly with the tablet. Wrong!! "Word" documents are actually fine but spreadsheets are excruciating on android. When online, you can painfully modify you spreadsheets. And I mean PAINFULLY. Offline, you can't do anything for both text and spreadsheets. You can only consult them.

Do you people know any great app to change this? What I basically want it an app that will let me work text and spreadsheets while I comute and then sync as soon as I'm connected. Basically like a laptop would do with google drive or dropbox. I don't mind paying $20 but I don't want to try 5 of them until I find a good one. Thanks in advance.

Sent from a TF300 :P
[Asus Transformer TF700] ill1:
Actually both of you cancel each other out, because you both represent extremes just on opposite sides. He's mostly so negative and your mostly so positive that neither of you are objective.

The prime/infinity has both good and bad points, but if I were to listen to either one of you I'd never find the middle ground, which is more than likely where the truth is. It's entertaining to read the back and forth, but not really educational if I'm doing pre purchase research.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
maybe in the beginning but i could care less about that kind of stuff now. its a losing battle no matter what side you on. regardless the proof is in the pudding. if you can even show me one post from me in the last month or two or even 3 going on some positive prime rant, please show me. Im too busy testing these builds and working to be posting all day about how well i think my prime is. it is what it is. if people want postive view, just read the thread link in my sig. i dont have to say much anymore. Ive been passed on the torch..lol

im here now to test builds, mod my prime, and help people. nothing more nothing less.

i will say this, if this was closer to when prime first launched, i wouldve easily had a good counterargument for what he posted. but honestly, the b.s. of good working prime owners vs. ones with issues is old already, at least to me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] safarigirl:
I use documents to go, officesuite and quickoffice. (BTW, google just purchased quickoffice). I was able to pick them all up for free through amazons "free app of the day" promo. If you dont have time to wait, quickoffice is half off right now $7.50. documents to go basic is free, but for the bells and whistles you'll need the key $14.99. Officesuite Pro $14.99.

I found documents to go to be the most user friendly with large pdf files. And I prefer office suite for manipulating word and excel docs, it holds the formatting changes much better in my opinion. Quickoffice is great for quick changes.

Again, if you check amazon every day (which is what I did to build up all my apps) you will most likely get them for free.

Good luck.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
@Dem

I hope you get some perks as beta-tester and community liaison. You realize you're basically doing Gary Key's work. Hey what happened to the customer support dude anyway? Is he like working undercover or something? Are all Asus reps gun-shy now? I PROMESE I ONLY BITE ON TUESDAYS AND SUNDAYS! :)

Hey, so what does Gary dude think about the MS Surface toys? Think TF tabs can compete ("...why of course ours are MUCH better!") or does Asus need to go back to the ol' drawing board? Get his dope.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
I've only used it for its word editing, but I"ve found Quickoffice Pro HD to be a pretty good office suite. Dropbox compatibility is built in. Its $15 in the market.
[Asus Transformer TF700] safarigirl:
You mean Tien? I noticed him over on newegg fending off the negatives!! ;):D

check the feedback tabs -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230217

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230218
[Asus Transformer TF700] gingi999:
I dont use bluetooth on my ipad, so I dont care. what do you use BT for anyway with a tablet?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
They have looked out for me. i never came into this really looking for anything. i was just glad to be testing out new builds not released yet and the gps dongle. But Asus has looked out for me though, so it has its perks ;) the customer service guy is around, i believe. but i think at the moment he works behind the scenes or through emails while gary schools him to this forum. im not sure the new guy ready for the cutthroat attitude some in this forum have. lol

ill try to see what he thinks of the Microsoft showing. after watching the videos, im very impressed. too many new toys releasing now. I still love my prime but the new toys, especially the win8 tablets are looking tempting to me. Ive always liked Microsoft & Bill Gates. so i may eventually travel back to where i started here. and thats with windows. its a very exciting time to be a tech head now. it is like you said though, the early adopters will be burned/orphaned the most. we yearn for the latest n greatest. but at the pace this mobile market is moving, things get outdated very fast. At least we have this great developement community that stretches out the life span of devices.

for example, just recently i was given a Dell Axim x50, high version. its old(but free)..lol its running Windows Mobile 2003 second edition. it has the Intel(R) pxa270. I updated to the latest firmware they put out for it. But i seen here in old xda threads that people have put win mo 5, 6, and even Android on it. So this is like a toy to me to tinker around with. im very interested in putting android on it. years ago this device would've been the coolest thing to me. I laugh looking at its specs. at least it has a built in full size sd card slot, a pen, wifi, and bt. its just been sitting lately cuz im on my prime so much. but i will use prime to research how to put android on it. so xda can take an old device and make it better or run things it was never built or even imagined to run.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>You mean Tien? I noticed him over on newegg fending off the negatives!!

Tien Phan is a Vietnamese name. If it's "Tiền", it means "money". Good hire by Asus! :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
wireless headset/filetransfer/car sync...things like that
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
theres alot of people here, not me, that use bt headphones hooked up to tablet while watching movies or streaming music. or to use bt keyboards or mouse. So in this forum at least, there is a ton of people concerned about performance when wifi/bt are used at the same time.