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[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
USB 2.0 external drive power requirement

Oh. I just got this one. I type pretty slowly.

Yeah, I'm sure you are correct. Well. I'd still like to see what KrisTheRock comes up with. Maybe I'll get the drive from Amazon, bring it into BB, and try it out.. I'll probably get the Infinity from BB anyway because I'm going to try it out in the store before I take it home, check for bleed, yellow, etc. ..if they let me do that. In some ways I'm not even all that picky but this is my first tablet and I plan to use it well beyond the expected life cycle as I do with my automobiles.

That's also why a one-port-connection with an external HD is important. I'm counting on Polaris Office to at least partially replace my home computer. I'm disabled, and if fact was in the hospital just earlier today. Having something other than a lug-able 5 year old notebook computer would be just what I need.

Sorry to ramble on so. Thanks again, s300pmu1.

Edro
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
this has by FAR been the LOOOONNNGGGESSSTT week at work. i'm constantly F5ing this thread and searching google. the hype is totally messing with my sleep pattern and body clock. at least i can live vicariously through our dear friend nivlheim_o_O? until this BEAST tablet comes stateside... =]

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btw nivlheim...you don't have to start a new thread...just ask the OP to edit the first post with your results so everyone can see the fruits of your labors!! this should also help out with repeat questions.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ian1:
Not true I/o has more to do with memory controlers and that the prime only has 1 for 4 cores whereas the exynos has 2 channel memory
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
I ran some tests with SystemTuner running on background

The CPU tempature of the TF700 is 62°c after playing 5min with the nvidia game "glowing ball" and 55° on the antutu benchmark

I tried to run the app on my Xoom and Razr but it doesn't show the CPU temperature
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Folks who claim the iPad's screen is so much better than the Infinity... The 4x3 aspect ratio really should be considered.

I think (if the math is right) 16:9 has 20% more area than a 4:3 aspect ratio.

If true, a 4:3 - 9.7in display would show a 1080p movie in a 7.76" window.

Compared to the Infinity which shows a 1080P movie at full screen... 10.1"

This makes that high ppi of the iPad a LOT less impressive.

(please correct me if you have an iPad and find this math to be wrong!)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
The screen of the infinity is a 16:10 ratio... 1920x1200

and only 1920x1128 is available for the programs and videos (because of the status bar on the bottom)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
it's all good tho...1128 is more than enough for 1080p...=]
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Hi again here, as a previous request I made better macro photos on the Xoom and the Asus Infinity to show the difference in pixels density

Asus Infinity

http://imageshack.us/f/51/dsc00184wi.jpg/ & http://imageshack.us/f/641/dsc00190y.jpg/

Motorola Xoom

http://imageshack.us/f/607/dsc00185vx.jpg/ & http://imageshack.us/f/88/dsc00187x.jpg/
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
Yup. Works fine. The TF 300 recognized the drive quickly and I was able to see everything through the file manager. It played some 720p video from the drive with no problem.

Now I'm no tech guy but I'm pretty sure that will drain your battery a LOT faster. These are physical "spinning" drives. One of the reasons you get a long battery life is that everything in a tablet is solid state.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sonicated:
Surely the status bar still disappears when a video goes full screen?

Thanks for all the work you're doing and all the information you're giving us - it really is very appreciated!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
No... the status bar never disappears in Android ICS for tablets even when you put something in full screen

But if you have root on your tablet there is a hack in another XDA thread where a guy build an .apk to hide/show the status bar
[Asus Transformer TF700] NeoMagus:
If its like it is on the Prime, the bar doesn't disappear, the icons just go away and are replaced by little dots. Its not like on my Nexus where the bar and icons go completely away/hides
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
The buttons and notifications go away, but the black strip remains along the bottom. They can be hidden with root, or alternatively there's a setting in Cyanogenmod 9 once we get that for it to hide on certain applications like video.

Its done that way so that if you want to leave the app, you still have access to your home button.
[Asus Transformer TF700] portablejim:
If it is not released by the end of the month, it would be really nice to be able to buy it from ebay.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Thanks for the pictures (and thanks for the change of image host as well). Much appreciated! :good:

Text does look a lot better on the Infinity, no doubt about it :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tw1n2nak3s:
The screen is truly....RESOLUTIONARY. (yup...i said it...)
[Asus Transformer TF700] carolek:
WiFi for me

I'll be getting the WiFi model. I just can't see paying AT&T anymore than I already do.

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I think it would be a great idea to start a new thread. Your info is spread out over several pages so starting a new thread would make it easier for us to find the information you've posted.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BritCrit:
CNET First Look Just Posted

Nothing terribly new here but just want to do my part to feed the addiction.

Here's the link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/asus-transformer-pad-infinity/4505-3126_7-35332613.html

Sorry should have titled that "Editors take" just to save you:

- No new pics

- No word of release (event the Eric Franklin wants it to "finally" come out)

- No US price update
[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
Using external hard drives

For not being a "tech guy" that is a pretty good catch. I didn't think of that. Thanks.

I did get a 64gb SDHC micro in anticipation of getting a TF700T. But I like being able to carry my collection. Now I'm wondering about an external SSD.. I know almost nothing about them.. Or maybe buy 32gb micro SDHC in bulk..

You've given me a lot to think about.

Edro
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I'm not sure that anyone has compared the iPad side-by-side with the Infinity, and there are no reports that I'm aware of that have evaluated the color, contrast, white balance, black levels, etc., of the Infinity. So, nobody has any room, as far as I'm aware, to say that the iPad's screen is better or worse than the Infinity's.

That said, yes, the iPad shows smaller video than any 10.1" Android tablet. However, other than the Excite 7.7 with it's AMOLED screen, the iPad has BETTER video than any Android tablet I've yet seen. And the reason for that has less to do with the resolution than it does the colors, contrast, black levels, and white balance. Whether it's Netflix, YouTube, or HBO Go, video on the iPad is simply stellar.

Yes, in addition to having very high pixel density, the iPad also excels at everything else that makes for a good screen (assuming you get one without the yellow tint). Put it all together, and it's something for Android tablet makers to shoot for.

Now, I don't actually like my iPad because I don't like iOS. I'd much rather be using an Android tablet with the same quality screen (and better apps would be nice), although the Excite 7.7 does come close (albeit with a squished ICS interface). In my opinion, people should stop trying to rationalize away the superiority of the iPad's screen, and start demanding that Android tablet makers come up with something as good.

That said, I would LOVE IT if the TF700 ends up having as good (or nearly as good) a screen as the iPad. I can say that the Prime did not, in terms of colors, contrast, black levels, and white balance (even the one I had that didn't have its own yellow tint). And so if the TF700's screen is just a higher-res version of the one on the Prime, then I'll be disappointed.

However, if the TF700 does have a great screen, then I'll most likely buy it and either sell the iPad, or pull it out when there's a specific iPad-only app that I want to use (and there are a few). I'm also thinking of sticking with the Excite 7.7--I'm just not sure I like the smaller screen size.

Seriously, though, the short version: the iPad's screen really is that good, and I'm most certainly NOT an Apple fan. If it weren't as good as it is, I would have returned it. The fact that I didn't, in spite of how much I hate iOS, speaks volumes about just how good that screen is.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jotokun:
CNET has a history of being very biased toward Apple, so I'd take that comment on the improved resolution being subtle with a large salt shaker on hand.
[Asus Transformer TF700] john291:
Hello there.

Is the browser with the infinity also better?

Or does it hang and stutters to?
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Here are some closeups on the iPad. My SLR is getting old and wonky and macro mode doesn't work well, so sorry for the poor focus. Gives an idea, though...
[Asus Transformer TF700] naira1:
Thanks mate, that's much more cooler than my Acer A 700 which by the way am sending back today.
[Asus Transformer TF700] grenness:
Kind of funny that the maker* of the iPad retina display is Samsung...

Christopher

--

* one of the makers, the other that is licensed to provide displays for the iPad is LG
[Asus Transformer TF700] pvdwaal:
@nivlheim_o_O

I know you already posted something about the SD slot and that it doesn't eject like the Prime does, but I didn't get answers for the following:

- does the SD card also stick out like the prime?

- how about micro HDMI? The prime looks very fragile and when tilting the tablet (when gaming) it looks like the port will break.

Both ports a very "shallow" on the prime and I would like to know if this has been fixed on the Infinity.

I now that the TF300 has it fixed, but the plastic casing is quite different (less rounded on the sides)

Thanks in advance :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
- No, the microSD card when inserted in the TF700 is like half a milimeter inside the case.

- I didn't try yet the microHDMI port , but as soon as I get home I'll try :-)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Underwater Mike:
SCORE! Got any links to save my lazy butt from searching? I have an X50 and a wad of accessories crammed in a box somewhere. ;)

I've been waiting (tablet-less) for the Infinity since JAN. But I think I'm going to wait a bit longer and let others test quality, having been burned on both the 101 and 201. Or, if the Nexus tablet is of acceptable quality, I may get that to hold me over until next spring, and then get the full-on Win 8 Surface. TBH, Asus has great ideas but I'm a bit sick of them launching half-assed.

Gratz to nivlheim and TYVM for all the time you're putting into keeping the rest of us informed.
[Asus Transformer TF700] mikimono:
Hi Nivlheim! Lucky you!

Have you tested the GPS? Just wondering if it conects OK and most important, if it keeps connection while moving (you can try with Sygic for example as this GPS is free for testing period). I mean, I won't be using it as main GPS while driving but it's one of the things that Asus needed to solve after the "PrimeGate" case...

Thanks for all the feedback given!!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Andreas527:
connect the charger cable to your Prime and the other end that is a USB you connect to your pc and just drag and drop..

Asus Prime & Tapatalk
[Asus Transformer TF700] bologdl:
So much miss information coming from Asus

Found this in another thread at XDA on a delay in the release of the Asus Infinity. I find it hard to believe that it will be delayed to the end of the year.

So much miss communications in Asus its a wonder if they will survie in the Tablet market.

Yes, sorry I was out of office for some time.

*

Here is the answers as best as I can provide them for you.

*

1)***** GPS on the Prime has been removed from Marketing sheets so getting great accuracy will not occur if you purchase a Prime.* At this point it will not be up to par for this function unfortunately.

2)***** Yes, it will still function as an A-GPS (Assisted GPS) as long as the condition of keeping an active Wi-Fi and using it within the scope of Google Maps occurs.* All our testing has confirmed accuracy to be within 100 meters.* But this is mostly because of wi-fi location and not for GPS itself.

3)***** For the Wifi/BT strength/symptoms the newer iterations perform better, however they will not be as great as our Prior TF101.* I believe this is because of the antenna redesign we had with the Prime.* I have tested the new C3 batches and getting good download speeds within 15 feet of our routers.* Anything passed will degrade quite significantly.

*

I am not sure if I answered your question on the Infinity.* But it has not been declared for an official release on North American shores.* I am anticipating closer to the end of the year before it gets released.* But this may change as we have executive management from headquarters in Taiwan change info on release dates, I do not determine this.* When the time comes and more details emerge for the Infinity Pad for North America, I can let you know.

*

I do want to say that I would prefer to keep our customers but this is the best info I can provide to let you use for our tablets for making a good purchasing decision.

*

*

Thanks,

Hai Trat

JR. Technical Product Manager

Inspiring Innovation．Persistent Perfection
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
I somewhat think that executive and senior managers wouldn't allow junior managers to give their **** about what they think about release dates and other things to possible customers this easy.

Even if the release date was closer to end of the year, this was about USA, not Europe, and in UK Asus'es usually start selling way earlier, i believe. But let's say, that if this is truth, the Europe would get the Infinity in let's say autumn. This is indeed insane, and if it comes that WIFI is still struggling from bad reception i would say that i won't wait for that till autumn to see 2 WIFI bars of connection....

So, if it takes too much for us, the waiters, to wait, what other options do we have?

I don't like Acer, so maybe i'll be also checking for info about Lenovo LePad K2010. What other tabs with similar high specs are comming in this year?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
current transformer prime is your best bet. my tablet works great ;) wifi strength and download speeds are better than my Ipad & Motorola Atrix phone.

I think the new tf-300 will release about June. its not as high spec or powerful as prime but should still be a good tablet. Its made out of plastic and it has a tegra3 also but is clocked lower. plus don't expect wifi/BT to be better than the prime. FCC report on 300 showed worse antennae gain on it and that usually means reception not as powerful. then the report also said wifi/BT won't work well simultaneously therefore simultaneous mode not needed. You can check the report and finds of the FCC on the 300 to confirm it. Reason being both are on the same chip. Companies do this to cut down on costs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Gigabitme:
Asus Transformer

I recently bought a Asus Transformer and I love it!!! :) Does anyone know where I can get a stylish case for my Asus Transformer this way it looks good and is protected if I happen to drop it? Please let me know. I am looking for a place that isn't too expensive and looks good.
[Asus Transformer TF700] babymatteo:
AMAZON! :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Character Zero:
I was looking at the TF300 and am wondering if I want to just go ahead with the Prime. The 300 is going to be a bit cheaper and the plastic back might allow better Wifi (?). But the Prime looks pretty sweet. The only issue is I think Gamestop is the only place that has them in stock, but I don't like that the included games can't be updated and I am pretty sure I am going to be loading a custom ROM.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paddycr:
It is worth looking around this forum to gauge peoples opinions - a lot of people are very happy, a vocal minority are not having such great experiences. Some of the horror stories with having problems and significant delays when RMAing to Asus are a little concerning though...

Having said that I would buy my Prime again tomorrow without a second thought. I have no WiFi/BT issues and I even have one of the older BX serial models. The only issue is the GPS is pretty crappy which I would have had no use for anyway. I have unlocked so I don't have to worry about any problems with getting support from Asus since their warranty is now void ;)

Overall, I would say go for the Prime. If you plan on unlocking just get a warranty from Squaretrade or something similar.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
Couldn't you lock it back if needed, so you could still get warranty repairs, if needed?

With my HTC Sensation i had some repairs since WIFI was gone, so i just locked it back and flashed a stock ROM and i got a warranty repair without questions
[Asus Transformer TF700] paddycr:
No, the unlocking is irreversible. The unlock program transmits your S/N to Asus and the terms of use of the unlock are very explicit that your warranty is voided. When you phone tech support they know that you have unlocked when you give them your S/N.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
this is bad :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] paddycr:
Ha, yes. I would actually be willing to bet that the legal jargon in the bootloader unlock tool took significantly longer to put together than the actual unlock program itself :p They wanted it to be watertight I guess...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Character Zero:
I am wondering if there really are advantages to unlocking. Other than loading ROMs, it seems the ASUS updates are frequent and somewhat up to date as far as Android OS versions go.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paddycr:
I would think carefully about it before doing it. If you are not really bothered/interested it's not worth the hassle. The devs are really good at promptly incorporating Asus's updated (I use Virtuous Prime and Diamondback had the new .21 version out the same day as Asus released it) plus they are incorporating some unique features that Asus do not offer. Non-Asus based roms like AOKP look really exciting too and I think that will be the way forward for me in the future.

The main reason I unlocked was that I was getting 2-3 reboots per day when browsing and it was getting very sluggish in general. I saw all the posts in the Development section saying how the roms were increasing stability and general smoothness and I was sold, especially as I loved the TFP and did not want to RMA. I would definitely say that unlocking has made my whole experience a whole loty more fun and less frustrating. Shame about that warranty though...;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>I do want to say that I would prefer to keep our customers but this is the best info I can provide to let you use for our tablets for making a good purchasing decision.

>Hai Trat

>JR. Technical Product Manager

Somebody please contact Hai Trat and invite him/her to be the Asus spokesperson on this forum. I can understand his English better than Gary Key's. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] misterwal10:
!! Agreed!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] dmoney94:
this is bull****...

if they are going to release it at the end of the year why did they announce it at CES2012 or MWC2012...
[Asus Transformer TF700] rift999:
Back to unlocking the prime has anyone made an unlock program that doesn't send the serial number?
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
I was going to get the 700, but Anandtech is reporting concerns that based on the current performance of the Prime, they have concern the Tegra 3 will not scale well with a 1080p display. Factor in game emulators struggle with higher res displays, I am hoping the revised panel Prime ships soon.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paddycr:
No, and it may not be possible since even the unlocked bootloaders remain partially locked and encrypted. Asus have only provided a partial solution which unfortunately is causing a few too many hard bricks. I know that they did not have to provide anything but it is a shame that they have gone about it in such a halfed-assed way.
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
Haven't seen one, but have seen a comparison of Acer A701 (also HD) with the new iPad. Generally the screens were similar in all respects but resolution; however, when viewed at an angle, the blacks of Acer's display became lighter (the more so the more the angle) faster that with iPad. Also, the brightness was somewhat lower. So the screen was slightly worse than iPad's.

Something tells me that this will also be the case with Asus. It will be slightly worse, but unobservable and of no consequence to those who are not using the devices in parallel.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
It's almost the 25th of June. Is it still likely that it will be released by that time, at least in Europe?
[Asus Transformer TF700] s300pmu1:
You either have lots of cash or a very small collection, to fit it in the meager space provided by today's SSDs! Furthermore, lugging around even an SSD along with the pad kind of defeats the idea of pad's portability.

Swapping sd's is also hard to imagine.

- Very slow (copying from PC to SD)

- Very inconvenient (more so when >1 cards are around)

- I have no pad so far but I assume Android behaves there just like on my HTC Desire phone - creates a bunch of folders and fills them with crap. Crap it needs to operate. Hopefully, considering the internal memory, the crap lands there and not on the SD, maybe not - have no idea.

(Hate it how it works, couldn't they create a single folder, and stick all the crap there in subfolders? Same thing with the PC - since when did the My Documents folder become the trashcan for any app installed... Had to stop using it as all the junk lands there. Well, having a separate disk for documents is better in all respect, anyhow.)

So I'd go for 2 SD's (if I were a person who watches lots of movies): One in the pad, One swappable (watch movie on pad, at the same time copy new movies from PC to the second card - then swap them out once you've watched all the stuff on the one in the pad).
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
I still don't get it, why is everyone talking about using a 64GB MicroSD card? Is this somekind of hack? The specs clearly state that it only supports up to 32GB.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tixed:
Also, in AOKP there's a feature in long-press power menu to switch off navbar. I know, infinity isn't even rooted yet (any checks for unlocking bootloader via fastboot as in GNex btw?), but I'm sure it will be popular with ROM and kernel developers as soon as it is!
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
because people used higher in prime. xda users dont conform to listed specs. we change them..lol

There are threads on higher than listed spec micro & sd card use.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Could you link me one of those threads? I've been searching for ages in the Prime forums but cannot seem to find anything about it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
Yep, I can't wait to unlock and root my Infinity :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Won't that make you lose your warranty rights?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pouic:
No I don't think so... when I had my HTC Desire Z with Cyanogen7 installed that was defective the repair centre said nothing and it was repaired in warranty :good:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Khar00f:
Good day to you all,

Two small question for those that got their hands on the Infinity

A) Does it come in the same color as the Prime?

B) Is the dock of the prime compatible with the Infinity (even though the colors might not match)?

- To answer the question above, the moment you unlock your bootloader you lose all warranty privileges, if you plan on flashing unofficial ROMS you will need to unlock it, so take that decision carefully. and th unlocking process cannot be reversed.

Thank you,

Rodi