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[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
oh yes, I agree. the S4 chip is great on battery life and is just as fast. I've been in several battle discussions here on the matter of who is better. As far as power and media capabilities goes, the Tegra3 version is clearly the best. I have several tech site benchmark and review comparisons to back this up. As far as battery life goes, tegra3 version can't hold a candle to the S4. Very strange how Tegra3 on tablets get great battery life yet on phones it doesn't do as well in that department. might be due to being paired with a non optimal radio. its not even Nvidia's own Icera 4g modem. The New Tegra3 aka T3+ will release soon with new Icera radios in them. Expect battery life to be drastically better. I still would rather have the tegra3 version but if the price is right, I might give the S4 version a go. only thing is I won't have access to tegra3 optimized apps n games with S4 version. plus its already been proven the S4 has issues with media playback. it can't playback 1080P videos or stream them. the tegra3 version can with ease. So tegra3 version far superior when it comes to overall power and media playback capabilities. You can check out my Tegra3 and competing chips thread for that info. let me warn you though, the discussions does get crazy n heated in there at times...lmfao
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
That, and the difference in actual battery size. I still don't really understand a 40nm SoC in a phone, kudos for them putting Teg out as much as they can, but they should have just waited for the Teg3+ before they entered the phone sector with it. I mean, think about it, it's exactly our processor on a battery that's physically at least 1/4 the size of our battery, and like you said likely running a kind of last-minute radio choice.

As always I wished I could pull a Cartman and just skip over the next x amount of time and pop out into a world of Teg4 :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Lol, quite frankly I would be ecstatic to have either version of the One X, although LTE would be nice as I wouldn't have to pay any extra for it on my network. On a tablet, the video playback/streaming would definitely be key for me. Man, they are both awesome chips/products, I can't understand why so many waste the energy of getting all worked up, totally not worth it, just enjoy the product.

On another note, can't you harass or blackmail your buddy Gary Keys to the point that he spills/release dates & pricing for the Infinity Pad :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
+1 [ten charrs]
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Late Q2 at best. you know I tried..lol. no pricing yet though. I want to find out if this Google/Asus Nexus tablet is real and when is it releasing. I'm on it ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] safarigirl:
I have a sneaking suspicion it's coming soon. I just checked nowinstock acct and a new product alert line has been set up under TF700 for B&H Photo (before it was only amazon). Amazon lists early; B&H, by my experience, is usually closer to actual availability. Fingers crossed for end of month pre-order/release!
[Asus Transformer TF700] apkapkapk:
So demandarin; which version would you recommend getting? I'm from Singapore where there's no LTE so I'm guessing (I know little to nuts about tablets; been looking up phones all my life haha) they'll only bring in the [Qualcomm MSM8260A Snapdragon] version instead of the [Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon] version. I'm honestly not sure if I want/need to get a 3G tablet. It's convenient and all but that means additional costs each month.

I've been hearing different things from all over the place; sometimes I hear Tegra3's better and other times S4's better. However, it seems more likely that they'll bring in the MSM8260A version. Is that worse than the MSM8960? I've been reading through some threads and I'm still undecided.

I'm getting a tablet for my work/studies; mainly document processing (lots of reports, going through notes for different modules). I'd also likely use it for watching media. Basically I'm getting a tablet (specifically the TPI because of it's keyboard) to replace my laptop.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Will the Transformer Pad Infinity's micro sd card readers support UHS speed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#UHS_Speed_Class)?
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
What speeds we talking here?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Yard10:
Hello guys. I'm new here. I am looking to buy my first tablet. I have done crazy amount of research about all these different asus transformers (300, prime & infinity) before i am going to decide which one i am going to purchase.

I only have 1 question of which I have not found the answer yet so far. Do you guys think the experience of web browsing & opening multiple apps at the same time on the infinity will be smoother than the prime? I am going to use my tablet primarily for web browsing, writing, reading & watching videos (going towards laptop replacement). Given that the display on the infinity will be a lot higher, will that compromise the performance since both (prime & infinity) have the same tegra 3 chip? Or is multitasking experience gonna be better on the infinity?

What do you guys think based on your observation or info that we currently have about the tablet?
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
I am hoping you are right although the Amazon listing has been up there since March 5!
[Asus Transformer TF700] safarigirl:
That's what I meant by they list early. Amazon created the web page for the 700 even before the 300...LOL. They then quickly hid the 700 page. I am in the market for it so have been patiently awaiting the release.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
it should be the same. I can do all those things you listed on my prime and it'll operate very smoothly. the infinity pad will have the AP33 variant of the tegra3 chip. So it will be clocked a little bit higher than the prime. Actually making this the highest clocked tegra3 right out the box. It will likely be 1.6-1.7Ghz out the box. I doubt Multitasking experience will be better. but in that said, nothing is wrong with multitasking experience on my prime. infinity pad should be fine. nothing I'd worry about, IMO. prime or infinity pad or even the 300 can easily do what you described. those are simple tasks. nothing that will tax the chip really. I can put my prime on 1Ghz and it'll do whatever I throw at it. I can still watch high qualtiy movies or streams with no problem. I can play all my games with no slowdown. browse the web and scrolling still very smooth & loads pages up fast. All while still on 1Ghz. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Yard10:
Thanks for that thoughts demandrin. I will probably get the prime now and see how it works and whether it suits my needs. If it doesnt or has any issues (eg wifi/bt/bleeding etc), i can always return and wait for the infinity. I really hope i'll get a fully working prime with no wifi issues. Fingers crossed! I just dont want to wait for a month to find out that the performance of the infinity will be the same as the prime and the only improvement is the display and 2mp front-facing camera (if the wifi in the newer version of prime i.e C4, is on par with the infinity) and i have wasted a month of waiting.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jdor:
Is the same dock being used for all Primes or each model has its own dock?

Will I be able to use TF101 dock for the 700?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Alfredos:
No but i think the TF201 dock will
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
50 MB/s
[Asus Transformer TF700] mark.m.moran:
Impressive! Cheers man ;-)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Yeah, but I don't think the Transformer Pad Infinity will support it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Another day, nothing......:(
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
+1 [10 char]
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Just found this online Swedish retailer showing stock and delivery May 23rd (based on Google translate). Would any of you in Sweden be able to confirm the details? Here is the site:

http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/hardvara/152825-transformer_pad_infinity_tf700t_wifi_10.1_full_hd_64gb_champagne_gold
[Asus Transformer TF700] safarigirl:
@David Dee

Great find and Awesome news! It matches the estimated release dates.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
Nästa leverans beräknas till 2012-05-23.

Next delivery estimated to 2012-05-30

I don't have any experiences with this store. However, norwegian online stores are notoriously known to be very optimistic in their delivery dates, so as to "fool" people into preordering, only to push the date further ahead, often on the day of estimated delivery. I have cancelled a few orders due to this. I suspect its the same way in Sweden. Note how its only an estimate, even if it's only a few days away.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Thanks, hope this means an official release date for North America is coming soon.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Thanks, I assume the change from May 23 to May 30 above was a typo?
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
this is likely what it is. it'll likely be mid-end of June once they release over seas. Which falls exactly inline with their own people say late Q2 release, at best. Still no word on American release. When it does, expect it like a month or 2 after overseas release. Kind of like how the prime was, except in reverse. It released in Taiwan and U.S. first. Then other places got it 1-2 months afterwards. it'll be here soon enough. Last thing you want them to do is rush this out the door...lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Is this Gary or Demandarin's view? :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
take a wild guess..lol I already checked on infinity pad release. Speculations are fun but straight up answers are even better. Late q2, at best, was what i was told. so june release is the most optimistic release date they are thinking at the moment. Could be then, or later.

The part about being released overseas first is already a known so that's nothing new.

plus too many seem eager to be early adopters again. smartest move would be to wait after its released. see how its performing. what initial growing pains does it have? check out the tech site reviews, check out consumer reviews. look at videos. If you want to be an early adopter, be prepared for any possible bugs or issues. it comes with the territory of any new electronic device release.

last paragraph was my view :P lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
Is bootloader unlock a case-by-case decision, or is it SOP going forward? Will TF300 and/or TF700 be unlocked?

An Aug release for TF700 may be problematic. One assumes Google won't be as tardy with JB as happened with ICS, so TF700 would come out at same time or soon before JB release. That would invoke the "beta-test" issue again, as with Prime's problem-filled transition from HC to ICS.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
Your assumption is correct:)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Andreas527:
You are absolutely correct.

Swedish retailers have a nasty habit to set early dates only to attract pre-emption. They then move back the date a few weeks at a time.

You often dont get the product faster just because you pre-booked. So the best thing is be kinda cool and wait until you have a date that you can really trust.

Would be really nice if Sweden could be among the first to Infinity Pad. Then I have to spend some money =)

Just a little comparison. I bought Prime 64GB from BH Photo Video from USA, with shipping + VAT to Sweden I landed at about 6000 sek.

Infinity is a little cheaper. But it is quite wrong to compare prices between countries when the currency + VAT and other taxes come into play.

EDIT: From av message on That was posted in the beginning of May on Facebook Asus Sverige says it will be a pressrelease on 28 May with all the info we will need.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
From Facebook Sweden :"ASUS Sverige Pressrelease släpps den 28e maj"

"ASUS Sweden Pressrelease WILL BE RELEASED may 28."

Nice! Thats a pretty definite statement, no maybe's or if's. Lets just hope its good news, and not something like : Release is delayed.....

Got my money back for the Prime, and stuck with an ipad for the moment. At least it reminds me why i bought the Prime in the first place.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Thanks for the info guys, great news!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Several Norwegian webshops are now stating that you can pre-order the TF700, including the LTE/3G versions. One shop, Multicom.no, has the 32 GB LTE/3G version at 5500 NOK, approximately 720 EUR. The 64 GB Wifi version seems to be priced at around 4800 NOK / 630 EUR.

But yeah, I get a feeling these guys are being extremely optimistic about an early June release. Or rather, availability. They can release a product any time they want, it's availability that matters to the end user.

What I'm curious about is which GPU will be in the LTE/3G versions? The specifications and early rumours has it using a Dual-core Snapdragon Krait CPU, but will it be paired with an Adreno 225, like its smartphone counterparts? That's an awful lot of pixels it needs to keep up with, so to speak. Even if it's clocked higher than in phones. Even the Tegra 3's beefier GPU will be challenged with a display like that.

Have there been any indication of GPU performance on the TF700 with either SoCs? Not just for games, but video decoding, GUI and app performance in general.

I feel like I've been waiting for aeons for this thing, but I'm still worried about "display performance".

Edit: Throw in a little bit of healthy skepticism concerning battery life with this high resolution oh-so-tasty display as well :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
People will be surprised how easily tegra3 pushes that infinity pad display. its rated to push displays even higher. the tegra3 Wifi version will be the most popular version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Oh, I'm sure the Tegra 3 versions will handle the increase in resolution better. But I want the 3G version, which means I'm "stuck" with the Adreno 225. At least that's what I'm guessing they'll be using.

I don't for a minute believe that Asus has struck a major deal with Qualcomm and are releasing TF700 tablets with Snapdragon S4 Pro / Adreno 320 for the LTE/3G version :p
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
I really hope that display resolution doesn't do too much damage to battery life.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Let's hope not, but there's a reason why Apple seriously beefed up the battery on the new iPad...
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
Interresting how a lot of webstores decided to create an inifity preorder page the same day (yesterday-today). Finally some news to get the rumors going! :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Andreas527:
Pretty sure that the Swedish / Scandinavian online stores did not have permission from Asus to make Infinity Pad available for booking prior to May 14

I took this screenshot May 7. What it says is that they may not add up for reservations before May 14

The date the most store Seams To Have is around 8 to 10 June. Thats 2 weeks after that Asus will have som info to share.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I've done a runthrough of the offerings on Norwegian Webshops. The "expected" delivery-dates range from may 28 to June 20 and inbetween. Now, a couple of the more reputable ones are on the june 20 date. They offer both the tablet at approx. 5000,- nok, and tablet+dock at approx. 6000,- nok. Allthough the dates differ greatly, i guess we can be really shure now that the Infinity WILL arrive sometime during June.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tkelly0727:
will there be a 16GB model of the asus transformer pad infinity ?
[Asus Transformer TF700] rwniel:
At least based on what we know at this point no, just 32GB and 64GB models for the wi-fi only model. According to listed specs on the Infinity micro-site, the 3G/LTE models when they're eventually released will have a 16GB version. But it's often the case with Asus tablets that not every model gets released in every country/region even for the wi-fi only models.

Robert
[Asus Transformer TF700] tkelly0727:
but there and been signs on engadget and phone arena saying 16/32/64gb
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
And just like that the LTE/3G version has been "withdrawn" from Multicom.no with a message saying that "Asus has told us to withhold this model for now" which I'm guessing means Asus doesn't have any release date for the 3G version yet :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
At last, proof that the entire Google complex hasn't been abducted by aliens after all. We actually have some JB news, er, rumors.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/15/google-planning-multiple-nexus-devices-android-jelly-bean/

The short of it is that JB reportedly will be available in Nov, in multiple "Nexus" (read: direct Google support) devices. Given its purported launch dates, probably safe to say that TF700 isn't among the Chosen Ones.

Looks like Prime's scenario (sans bad wifi/GPS) will again come to pass on Inf. Inf users will have mucho beta-testing fun as Inf transitions from ICS to JB. Dem dude, about that BL unlocker..

SAY CHEEZE PLEEZE! :)

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[Asus Transformer TF700] rwniel:
That's partly the reason why I would say 'wait and see'. :) Asus officially had only discussed releasing a 16GB model of the Pad 300 model, which ultimately progressed to a 32GB version as well. Likewise with the 3G/LTE models even though they're listed as possible models we have no information on the exact timing of their release or what countries. Until something is officially announced, I would say treat any discussion on models as largely either speculation based on fragments of information we have now or simply a repeat of speculation as fact.

Robert
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
what did you want to know about BL unlocked again? if there are special conditions for 300 & 700 or something like that?

I sent off a message on the USB wifi adapter idea. so waiting on a response on it. I linked him to that thread also.

ill gladly test out a new infinity pad or new Jellybean android version :) I really want to use that whole Padfone setup. combined, Asus estimated battery life is crazy. have you seen it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
>if there are special conditions for 300 & 700 or something like that?

I want to know if we have to go through the "oh pritty pleeze wid sugar on it" routine with Asus for all its toys to get the BL unlock. It gets old fast. I'm not really into begging.

>I sent off a message on the USB wifi adapter idea.

Thanks for that. I think it'll be a good thing, not just for Prime, but for all TF models. Having an external USB adapter means you can have high-gain reception for distant uses.

>I really want to use that whole Padfone setup.

You planning to move to Taiwan any time soon?

The couple of hands-ons I've seen on PadFone haven't been that positive. After the James Bond euphoria wears off, there's the whole practicality aspect of using it as a daily driver.

PLEEZE MR. ASUS WILL YOU BE MY BL UNLOCKER?​
[Asus Transformer TF700] tkelly0727:
yeah thanks man for your help. asus might announced a 16gb model at the last moment but u never know what they can do. like how they scrap the memo 370t and work along side google to make the Google nexus tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
with asus aiming for high end market with infinity pad, i seriously doubt there will ever be a 16gb model. thats what the 300 is for. infinity pad will only be 32 or 64gb. at least for now. but never say never, if they do, i see a possibility around its mid to end of life cycle. just to milk out the sales,

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i gotcha.
[Asus Transformer TF700] borchgrevink:
Isn't the Adreno 225 a better GPU but worse CPU?

Another thought. REALLY hope the new TF700 will support something like Samsung's new AllCast wireless HD mirroring technology (like iOS's Airplay). A killer feature for me, and a must-have for my next tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
@ManuelCeballosR el Infinity llegará en julio y el Padfone a finales de año. Un saludo!

July in Spain.
[Asus Transformer TF700] megamoz:
Was June before according to the official tweet, so already delayed :thumbdown:.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
One store has an estimated date only five days from now, May 21. I think i'll have to call them and ask a few questions. If it is legit, they should be able confirm it now so close to the date.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishamm:
http://www.portagadgets.com/uk/-PRE...r-Int.-Warranty-Amethyst-Grey.html#googlebase this preorder has been around for a while, i presume the price is to reserve one, if not at ~1/10th the price expected this is a steal :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Thanks, looking forward to hearing what they have to say.
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
please do contact them, would be very interresting to hear what they say!
[Asus Transformer TF700] XabiX666:
My worry is

I would tend to say that it's a mistake from Asus to not provide visibility on availabilities as some people don't want to wait without having a clear date and go to the competition.

In the order hand, maybe they will announce only on June 10th (Italy) when it will be available instead of just making it available on the 10th.

I think it will be better fro Asus to tell us right now when it will be available.

Otherwise people are sick of waiting and they change their minds and buy iPads instead (which is not that bad)
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
I assume this is the store in Norway you mentioned with the May 21st stock date: http://www.multicom.no/-/cat-p/c/p4640971

Interesting to see if it will actually be in stock, although I would bet against it as all others are showing 30 days.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
I've been dreading it but I suppose it may be high time to trade the Prime in. Either for a replacement, or a refund to get the Infinity. Don't know if I could go as long as that'll take without a tablet though.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
Yeah, that's the one:D I just noticed the date on the keyboard, which is July Third. I have no illusions about the date on the tablet being legit, but i might have a bit of fun calling in. I'll do it tomorrow if i remember it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
A700 FCC Approval

On a related note, looks like one of the other Android high resolution tablets, the Acer A700, is about to be launched in the US: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26230033&postcount=39
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
I must say I am surprised at the delays announcing the Infinity anywhere other than Italy.

I wonder is it held up or are they just going to spring sudden availability on us? Fingers crossed eh?
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
Ok, i just called the store with the may 21 date. It came as no surprise that the sales rep couldn't guarantee anything, even if it's just three days away. That date btw is the date the supplier gets it, and not the shop itself, so figure anoter two or three days on top of that. I don't know what to make of this. Still no definite date of release.
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
I wonder what date they'll set in three days from now...
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Thank you for checking. I think the product has already launched in Sweden. Look at these two pages from Webhallen.com. Note the TF700t no keyboard has a note delivery is expected 5-26, but when looking at the TF700t with a keyboard, no such note. In clicking buy and following the purchase, it said delivery within 24 hours for tf700t + keyboard. My only challenge here is I am relying on Google translate, maybe someone in Sweden could call and verify. Here are the two links I was referring too:

tf700t, no keyboard, may 26 - http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/hardvara/152825-transformer_pad_infinity_tf700t_wifi_10.1_full_hd_64gb_champagne_gold

tf700t, with keyboard, available now? - http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/hardvara/152836-transformer_pad_infinity_tf700t_wifi_10.1_full_hd_64gb_champagne_gold_tf700_dock#overview
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
This lack of information isn't doing Asus any good.

Pull your finger out chaps!