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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] irishtexmex:
I am surprised at how often I have used the version of Splashtop that came bundled with Asus MyCloud, so even if this totally blows chunks for gaming I think I'm going to purchase it for a couple reasons:

1, it was designed for Tegra 3, so at the bare minimum it has the future capability to run better than the regular Splashtop HD.

2, It is a brand new app released for Nvidia's current halo product. That means the devs are going to devote their resources to this

first

. You can expect this to get updated far more frequently than Splashtop HD, let alone the one bundled in Asus MyCloud (which I believe is already an update or two behind).

Lastly, has anyone tried setting up a touch profile with the Sixaxis app or Bluez IME? I use Sixaxis extensively, and I don't see any reason preventing me from emulating gamepad support with that. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Of course I already have HD >.>

Lol, as if I have any connections with good enough u/l to take advantage of any Splashtop.

I wish that when dev's/teams/anyone (thanks XDA, for releasing an HD app on top of the Premium I already have...) did this they would allow you, say, a month to contact support and refund the old version and let you get only the new one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slayer69:
I just decided I jump in and get it.....just because I love this app so much I don't mind supporting them even if it did come with my prime. I will tell you that THD version is soooo much faster then the installed one on the prime. Well worth the $7 bucks. And it no longer disconnects randomly...at least not yet. I ran a test connecting to my laptop at home and WOW.......

Just my 3 cents........(my thoughts are worth more then 2 cents :p)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] zulu99:
Skyrim on Asus Transformer with good controller:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejgQe3KC83g
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] costcutter:
They are using a borderless mod
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dpwhitty11:
An email I just sent off to the devs:

Hope to hear back, will post anything I receive.

...I realize that it's optimized for the Teg3, and NVIDIA and ATI are against each other, but c'mon now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maxcovergold:
quick question before I purchase, do I need to remove the server running from my PC at the moment that lets me connect via the slpashtop bundled with prime before setting up thd version?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TremF:
I have an Nvidia GTX 460 graphics card and it won't allow me to play full screen :(

I emailed support too. I also asked about controller compatibility as at CES they showcased it playing Skyrim with a 360 controller!

---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 PM ----------

I didn't remove the existing client and it connects fine - I even use internet discovery for quick easy connection :) . I'm just disappointed about not being able to play full screen games still.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] costcutter:
Please read this..

Splashtop doesn't support full screen, at the NVIDIA demo they are using a borderless mod to give the illusion of full screen.

I have a geforce GPU and I can't run anything in full screen, only in windowed mode.

Anyway, anyone having any issues with having the brightness down low and using splashtop, the brightness constantly rises when switching from a dark background to a light background, ie desktop to an explorer window.

Anyone else having that problem?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] redandblack1287:
There may be limited compatibility with full screen mode, but it definitely 100% works with my GTX 260m on both openITG and League of Legends. Will try dead space later

But yeah, they have a LOT of features to add and bugs to work out, but so far it looks promising if they get their act together. I was impressed with actual game performance, even though it still leaves something to be desired
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I have that problem with the Prime period...

My right-most three homescreens act fine, but the left two get brighter as you go left... Regardless of the placement of my widgets. Haven't tried removing all my folders or anything.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] costcutter:
Try a cold boot
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Cold boot?

*EDIT:

And it is consistent. Across all updates (OTA or manual) I've tried, on low brightness settings this occurs.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] walie:
anyone find splashtop super slow to nearly useless over 3G? getting much better performance with LogMeIn

On home Wifi though...splashtop is very good
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rogue100:
Is there list somewhere of nvidia gpus that work correctly with this, or at least a way to determine if a given one is compatible?

I don't think they will. I'm guessing that the asus specific bundled apps are the same across all their devices. With the OG transformer on tegra 2, and some of the upcoming devices on qualcomm chips, they would probably keep on the normal HD version to maintain compatibility across all their different devices.

In any case, I would think it would be preferable to have a seperate paid version to guarantee access to the most up to date version.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tim.tahtinen:
You keep on saying this, but Splashtop says you're wrong. Every article I've read about the demo at CES doesn't mention anything about using a borderless mod, either.

The problem is going to be your home upload speed, and your 3G up/down speed. I know I can't use any remote desktop utility (much less Splashtop) on my Rezound because my speeds are usually about 100kbps/60kpbs on 3G.

Not that I've been able to find, and there are plenty of people having issues with the implementation anyway. So definitely YMMV.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
I don't know where you are getting this from. All my game are full screen. I'm running a gtx 460m.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rand4ll:
It's your upload speed that is important for remote desktop as you are uploading the screen data across the net.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
This ^^^

It's what's killed any chance of me taking full use. I hate rural areas...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nhshah7:
i have issues with splashtop that was bundled and i know it's an app problem because it used to work but now it doesn't. I can't use my computer over any other network connection via splashtop because the screen jsut refuses to update. Any of you that bought the HD version over the bundled version buy it just because of this issue? I'm hesitant in paying for something I already have if it still won't work...

and everyone says THD is "optimized" for tegra 3, but how...what dif does it make? has anyone compared it to teh regular HD app?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DeimosPhoenix:
Splashtop THD is definitely faster than both the HD and included 'MyCloud' version, I can attest to that.

I can play Skyrim in windowed mode, and actually works surprisingly well with the touch controls. Something to get used to for sure, but not horrible.

Fullscreen mode does not work, and I am using a Nvidia GeForce gtx 560 ti. (Maybe because I have multiple monitors? Ill check after this.) But its not that much of a difference if you get rid of the borders.

Mouses seem to work out of game, with right click! Woohoo! :D

In game they seem to cut off once the android cursor reaches the end of the screen, so if trying to turn around with a mouse in game, it sometimes stops you half way. Hopefully that can be fixed, but seems like an android problem and not a splashtop problem.

The most frustrating thing for me is that the arrow keys work beautifully on the keyboard dock, but WASD isnt working! Blah.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] irishtexmex:
I think it's safe to say more than a few of us are wondering if anyone's messed around with it and Skyrim. If so, could you give a brief summary of the overall experience? Framerate, playability, on screen controls a hassle or not? Thanks ahead of time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] halloumi3:
Ok guys I was able to get Skyrim to play in fullscreen by disabling SLI and then closing and restarting the Splashtop streamer application on my computer. I was also able to use my PS3 controller to play by tapping with two fingers on the prime to switch to Game Mode and then tapping on the skyrim icon in the lower right hand corner. The PS3 controller wasn't exactly ideal though.

Overall it's a pretty solid experience with a few jitters. I'm gonna try hooking it up to my hdtv later to see how that goes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DeimosPhoenix:
Of course!

First thing to note,

as soon as I unplugged my second moniter, FULLSCREEN WORKED.

Assuming you have the right graphics card, that may very well be your problem. Minecraft loaded up in fullscreen too, (with F11 on comps keyboard)

The capital Doubledouble doesn't seem to be happening anymore either, when typing.

As for Skyrim, the on screen controls are very weird to work with, but I played (far more than a uni student should) on PC with WASD, so I'm not used to it.

Framerate is actually very decent on LAN, with a good computer. It feels like I am playing on the computer with the graphics settings on 'one too high', aka, Its very bearable, looks fantastic, but I'll get the occasional millisecond hiccup. I'll keep messing around with it some more.

Im also not sure if its something on my end being wrong with the WASD, but I keep defaulting to try and use it and it wont work. ):
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I get the same issue with HD, but again, we only have .5 MB upload speeds around here so I assumed that was my issue.

That sucks though... You have to decrease your performance and not use an entire card on your system just to be able to properly use it?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wifesabitch:
This is amazing. Faster than the HD version, right click is working now and I have no problem using full screen mode.

I'm not even going to use the browser on the Prime now, Firefox on Windows 7 blows anything any Android browser has to offer right out of the water and it's working pretty nicely with Splashtop THD.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] erikjonpeterson:
Anyone having problems with pinch to zoom working?. No go for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] halloumi3:
SLI is said not to be supported atm by Splashtop so that was my first step to try and get it to run in fullscreen. However even after I disabled SLI I was still having issues. My next solution was to simply restart the Streamer and that ended up working. So there's a chance it could work while in SLI now that I've restarted the streamer. I'll try that later.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DeimosPhoenix:
From my understanding, pinch to zoom was not in the HD version, and also isn't in this version.

Using a mouse or trackpad, I've found clicking and dragging to sometimes stop working, especially during game mode. Unfortunately this breaks using a mouse to control bows in Skyrim, as once you load an arrow you cant aim anymore!

The touch controls work perfect for bows though - once you get used to it :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Foetus:
Fullscreen works, but it took me awhile to figure it out. If you have multiple monitors, turn all but the main one off (Windows+P).

With that said, is anyone having trouble with Skyrim not detecting the left and right mouse buttons? I am. :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DeimosPhoenix:
My left and right mouse buttons seem to work perfectly, trackpad, mouse, and touch. =/

Does your WASD work in Skyrim?

I've also noticed that attaching or disconnecting the keyboard dock while connected immediately disconnects me :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Here is what they had to say when I inquired about the difference....

Thanks to be Splashtop user. Our HD focus on 'desktop'. It will add 'trackpad' mode in the future to make'desktop' operation more smooth. And HD will keep improve for 'desktop'operation. Our THD focus on 'game'. It will add moreprofiles for moregamesin the new release, but will notimprovefor 'desktop' operation. So theyare verydifferent products. If you onlyneed one of two products,please provide usthe electronicreceiptfrom Google to thisticket, we will refund according to the receipt.

Best Regards, Splashtop Remote Support Team

From: Jon deVega
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] costcutter:
Are they basically saying that the 'HD' version will continue to be improved for desktop use and the 'THD' version will stay as is but just get updated with new profiles?

I would of expected the 'THD' version to incorperate every update the 'HD' version gets, and more.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Kashban:
Had no luck with Batman Arkham City on my Laptop streaming to the Prime with respect to fullscreen... maybe it's Optimus kicking in again which so far prevented 3D vision come to live on that laptop.

If you're deciding about a new laptop for 3D Vision, don't take any with Optimus.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeUser:
Do one needs both the client and the server, or only the client will do?

Thanks!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tuckersmission:
So Does anyone know if 'My Cloud' will be updated?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
That is marketing bull****. Regular HD version is just as good performance wise as THD version, I noticed no difference in performance whatsoever as opposed to regular HD version (and I then got a refund after few minutes of testing since I was no way buying the same software twice).

The framerates when running games or just using the operating system were the same. Do note that Splashtop is only about streaming picture from desktop to Prime, you cannot make it 'faster' with THD version no matter what you do.

Only difference here is the custom game mapping option, which I did not test and is only a gimmick. I am really disappointed that the team behind Splashtop has basically sold out, because all of this should have simply been in desktop HD version.

The only difference between HD and THD are the custom controls. There's no difference between the streaming and performance system.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MirQoo:
skyrim lagged pretty badly. almost unplayable. but i think its because of my router... sucks though... :(

edit: so obviously its problem wtih wifi card on my desktop which is 54mbps only, im going to buy 150mbps and hope that it will be better
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Andreas527:
THD runs faster and the HD. With the HD I get little slow animations when open and close windows or moving the mouse.

With THD everything happens instantly and smooth.

Haven't tried any games. Movies and browsing works good and is in full screen.

The sad thing is that you see how slow the browser on Prime, Android is when you can get a feel how good it should be when you now can run your computer browser.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wifesabitch:
That is incorrect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
Then you would only buy one of their products, wouldnt you. Oh how i hate our economic system sometimes. So i dont care because we have the normal version implemented anyway. But the "normal" version is very obviously slower in every way than the THD version. Youtube 720 starts lagging very badly where the thd version is perfectly smooth. Even in Word its noticable.

So i think its pretty sad that they dont give us all the nice control options in the thd version. But i will use that one for everything just because of speed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
Do i need another client software? I tried the THD version but it was very slow for me...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
What are you talking about? They are both exactly as fast for me. Splashtop -streams- picture from your computer to tablet. It does not matter at all what apps you have running, since the streamer software is the same on the computer that runs this. And unless the devs intentionally throttle HD version as opposed to THD, there is no difference. Some articles mention that THD is capable of higher streaming speeds, but since the source is the same, then they actually -are- throttling the speed compared to HD version, which is just horrible, since HD version would then be capable of the same speeds since the source is the same.

Splashtop works by sending screen pixel data from the screen to the tablet. It has nothing to do with what app you have running.

You can read more here.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
I believe you^^ But the built in Splashtop (accessible through mycloud app) is slower than the THD one for me and disconnects sometimes. Gonna make some more tests i guess.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
I don't think it's the speed of sending the bits, but the compression. For example, it might be using a different compression and decompression algorithms that takes advantage of the instructions or power that the the Tegra 3 provide so they would not include that code in the HD version as it wouldn't be utilized by the masses.

For example, there's CUDA. It's suppose to utilize the cores of the GPU in NVIDIA to improve the speed of operations over using the CPU. Some transcoding software utilize CUDA to transcode at a much faster rate than CPU.

Something similar could take place where the streamer would use NVIDIA optimized code to compress the picture better and perhaps more data in the same size which can be sent to the THD application and the THD application has the ability to decompress the picture with more data at a faster rate, thus providing better picture quality. Or, the streamer knows it can send more data at a faster rate because the THD program on a Tegra 3 can decompress faster than say a Transformer with a Tegra 2 processor.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
If it was as easy as sending pictures every desktop client would be super fast with no lag.

And yes you can make it faster because they DID! If you haven't noticed, thd works with you gfx card most likely by compressing the images to upload them faster.

I can't believe someone would post a comment like this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Buff McBigstuff:
Maybe it can detect which client is connected and adjust its upload rate that way. That is a very artificial way of creating separation between a mid-level and a premium product but it wouldn't be the first time a company has done something like that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] indiscriminant:
How does this work with Dual Screen set ups?

I would like to access my work computer from the road but I have two monitors. I could not make it work with the built in version that I could figure out anyways...

Does this version support either monitor switching or showing both monitors at the same time like logmein does?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DeimosPhoenix:
Same as the other versions: Three finger press on the screen, and theres a button to swap monitors. Can only have one on screen at a time though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
See, they need to give us control over some of the settings.. Like that one..

I hate going from my screen to my keyboard as much as Splashtop makes me, just to move around my screen. And I refuse to change the resolution to fit my device because that screws all my hard-earned organization on my desktop...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TalynOne:
The need for an nVidia graphics card on the desktop for full screen gaming seems like an artificial limitation. It's not like nVidia needed to release updated drivers to support SplashTop, probably just some stupid marketing / anti competition based limitation they put in similar to disabling physX when nVidia detects an ATI card installed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
So my setup is a i7 2600K with a Gigabyte Z68 motherboard with onboard video connections to take advantage of the Intel HD graphics of the i7 chip. I have a GeForce GTX 580 video card and a dual monitor setup. Couldn't for the life of me get full screen Skyrim working and someone here said that only window mode was supported and that they used a borderless mod..

So I tried unplugging the second monitor. That didn't work. Tried reinstalling drivers on my Windows 7 64-bit machine. That didn';t work.. Contacted Splashtop and they suggested me disabling the Intel graphics option on the mobo. Did that and uninstalled the drivers.. Still windowed mode and Splashtop still didn't say Optimized for NVIDIA.. Then I got this email:

The settings for dual-display-chip case is a little complicated, we also experienced this on ASUS motherboard, not sure same as yours, please take as a reference.

1.check your motherboard, it should have a HDMI interface, attach another monitor with HDMI cable. This is the most important step to be able to utilize nvidia display. (in our case, nvidia display is not default used display)

2.exit Splashtop streamer from system tray

3.find Splashtop streamer program icon(not shortcut) from Windows Start menu, then right click on it

4.you can see a context menu pop-up, and a menu item/sub-menu like "execute by GPU processor.../..nvidia..."

5.by this way, you can see Optimize for Geforce enabled.

Please have a try.

So, I plugged in an HDMI cable from the motherboard to the second unplugged monitor. I rebooted and BAM, Splashtop says Optimized for NVIDIA now. I didn't have to do steps 2-5.

I connected with my Prime and loaded up Skyrim. Finally, it played full screen and it played really really well. No borderless mod, no windows.. It was true full screen.

I'm going to try it with my LTE hotspot next and try USB mouse later on.. but yes, you can get full screen gaming with the right setup and have it play really really well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Yes, you are correct here. But that's not the speed I was talking about. I mentioned people who said that for some reason X and X app in desktop now work faster, when in fact that has nothing to do with it.

The source input is the same, the compression is done by the same app that runs on desktop computer.

It is only decoding that can be faster for THD and this is what upsets me about this, since that should have been implemented in regular HD version as well instead of making users buy another app. It's a total selling out. I already have three Splashtop apps (the one that comes with Prime, then Desktop HD and the one for smartphone). I don't want to run games, but I still want speed and THD is simply copping out here, the only addition that makes sense are the game controls that I don't care about.

But these same decoding benefits should have been applied to regular HD version as well.

My reply was simply about making it clear that the source input is the same on both apps, so the things you run on your desktop computer do not affect the speed of Splashtop app.

They are simply selling you the same app again, wanting users to pay again for a small modification that should have been applied to Desktop HD version already.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tjblotto:
That fix only works with GeForce? Trying with ATI tomorrow
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
Yes, it's only GeForce cards that will get you full screen unfortunately.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
It can be implemented in both apps but only the tegra 3 can decode at the required rates. Thats why there is a HD and a THD app for a lot of games. Combining the source code into the HD would just make it more complicated.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rand4ll:
The Tegra 3 could also have an instruction set that isn't implemented in other processors that the THD version exploits. I don't know if it does but think of it like sse instruction sets on Intel processors, newer procs have newer instruction sets. It could also be using other hardware level enhancements such as utilizing multiple cores in a way only Tegra3 can. Without the code though this is only conjecture.