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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stonesaber:
If you're going to quote me, at least do it correctly.

Sometimes, even doing everything right results in bad luck. Yes, this is my second brick. Albeit under DIFFERENT circumstances with different results. (I did not have the blue led of death the first time) I have no idea what went wrong this time. As I previously stated, I was going to an ICS rom from a gb recovery like I've done many,many times with no problems.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
Well, you beat around the bush quite a bit, but you did answer my two questions. You did infact brick the phone, wether it was intentional or not doesn't matter, which is not covered by TEP, and you are not an electrical engineer.

Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Well you sure like irrelevancies, don't you? According to what I've been told the problem is liquid damage, no? Is that not what the people with the proper credentials have determined? The credentials I do not have... But what does that matter?

My occupation has nothing to do with the fact that corrosion is not/cannot be invisible.

And regardless of the intention, anything other than protecting everything would not be total.

Save your hostility for somebody that hasn't had 40 plus hours of time wasted by the lies of people in your company....

And just for giggles, are you a lawyer? My issue is a legal one. So if you could list your credentials I'd be happy to consider your input worth something.

Until then, thanks anyway.

PS: There was no "deliberate malfunction" as you suggest but rather a firmware update failure. A function that my device is capable of.

Either your counterpart got it wet, or the moisture in the air did more damage than I would imagine possible.

Either way, show me where I am NOTcovered by TEP,

Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] toto4155:
Thanks for the help!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
people who have bricked their phone without insurance can do this:

1)call sprint get tep insurance

2)got to sprint store and they will check your phone they dont care when did u get insurance as long as u have it

3) If u have another phone activated they need to activate your epic touch to check this and u will be out of service till they check your phone and if they cant do it they will give u a new one with 35.00 dollar fee.

and u can cancel tep whenever u want.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xST4T1K:
Sorry for the lack of updates, I've been extremely busy, and in the process of building another pc so my attention's been directed toward that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
Well, if we must continue:

Again, no one has to show you corrosion to prove the phone is water damaged. Im not sure why this is so hard for you to comprehend.

Thankfully we protect people from their own stupidity. In this case it comes at a cost of $100. I have better things to do than lie on the internet, i'm here to inform.

Please show me where this is a legal matter?

My signature lists my credentials, maybe look through it.

I never said it was a deliberate malfunction. You improperly installed software not approved by Sprint. Wether or not the phone is capable is irrelevant. Im sure my Honda Civic can do 150mph if I turbocharge it, but when I blow a gasket do you think the dealer is going to cover it?

And since you asked so politely, i'll show you where you're not covered by TEP

Page 2, top of column 2 under "What is not covered", number 3.

http://shop.sprint.com/global/pdf/services_solutions/brochure_tep_esrp.pdf

Have a nice day.

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This is also known as insurance fraud.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Actually you specifically did say that.

I was more than happy to pay the dedectuctable. Your co-workers are lying sacks of .... who told me that I wasn't covered for "water damage"

It was a Sprint tech that told me there has to be corrosion.

Nothing that I had said was anything other than what Sprint had told me.

My issue is a legal one for several reasons.... all the broken verbal agreements being the only that pissed me off... I never made requests or demands, I was simply trying to replace a phone.

Im not running around making up Sprint polocies on the fly.... thats for their employees to do.

You fail to see that this is not your normal scenario..and furthermore you say you push through flagged phones and let people replace bricks but point at someone elses fraud with your mighty mighty finger... just drop it, brother.

My beef is not with you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
I stand corrected - I thought I said "unintentional malfunction"

lol, verbal agreements? Everything you've posted sure makes it seems like you've been extremely hostile to anyone you've come into contact with.

You're right I did say I push through flagged phones. Now you show me where I can't do that. Oh thats right, you can't. I said I choose to exchange phones improperly flagged damage beyond repair, which is fully within my authority. The bricks, while not covered I do to be nice because:

As you will learn, later rather than sooner I'm sure,

You catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
That is why prices keep going up for people that want to honest and above board. Less honorable people in this world today. :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
You act as if I started in on you.. I had no knowledge of your existence until you started throwing around accusations and insults. You mockingly misquoted me and acted as if I claimed to have an intimate knowledge of electronics when nothing that I said indicated that in the slightest. You're a troll. Where was this honey of yours during any of this.

I think Ill just call you Mr. Pickle.

Oh, ftr...i am glad you help people, dont misunderstand me more than you have already. You yourself state that not all Sprint techs are properly trained... If you think that you should deal with Escalations. Theyre a joke unless you climb the ladder.

Im not questioning your authority on the job, either. Sprint sent me to have it looked by a second tech. Not me. What are you not getting?

Oh and gj avoiding the part where you say that you didnt say what you definitely said. Clearly, you have been trained by Sprint.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
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This is also known as insurance fraud.[/QUOTE]

Bye the way sprint cs Rep told me to do it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
I was suggested by sprint cs Rep to be honest.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
It is no wonder Sprint is such a debtor company then.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
Lol, i'm the troll? You're the one accusing the company of deliberately making up water damage to avoid replacing improperly flashed phones. I can assure you only a handful of techs would even recognize what happened to the phone. Im sure quite a few phones have been replaced simply because the tech did not know what happened. So try not to act like there is a secret company memo against you.

Heres my honey btw:

I admitted I was wrong at what I said.

And you're trying to be funny, yet I was not trained by Sprint, just another example of you talking from your rear end.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
You admit that you recognize that I'm being facetious and yet you respond literally..?

Once again your foot is in your mouth.

You could try asking a relevant question every now and again.

You can go ahead and have the last word now. Clearly you can't leave well enough alone but nothing that you say changes facts.

Let me remind you...I never asked for anything. I never do. People got fired (but Sprint policy....yeah, they told me anyway) over this. Once again, not my request.

My final question to you is....

Why were people (specifically three who knew the truth, altered records, and lied) fired over this if it is my paranoid fantasy?

Good day, sir. I sincerly hope you find an other.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
Im going out on a limb here:

No one lost their job over this. But if it makes you feel better to think so because you were so wronged, knock yourself out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Seriously...grow up. I was lied to and told I didnt have insurance when I do...my phone was exposed to liquid while at that store....my account was modified to indicate I've only had my phone for two weeks and insurance was never added... Ive had it since December. "Care" employees lied through their teeth and transfered me to fake managers who lied even more... A real manager's notes were erased from my account... It wasn't until a tech support guy said "you're getting shafted" and told me what was up before I thought anything extraordinary was happening. There's plenty more....shall I continue or will you just admit that you are ignorantly trolling like every other e-thug Ive seen.

You make me sad inside.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] schwab002:
Bookmarked. I always get so nervous using odin or flashing an ICS rom. This will definitely be useful for checking my procedures and soothing my nerves.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
E-Thug? Please show me where I was threatening to harm you in some way.

You're the troll telling people that theres some corporate scandal to shaft you, yet where are the thousands of other posting the same experiences here?

Just give it up, the techs are to busy to waste their time trying to screw you out of a replacement, especially wasting time to make your phone look liquid damaged.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stonesaber:
Kebetz and TonyTurboII.

I think this has run it's course, don't you. Why don't you both just let it go. Life's too short to be upset about something as insignificant as this.

On another note, I went to my local Sprint store today and talked to my awesome tech guy there and he ordered me a replacement that I'll be picking up tomorrow. And yes, I told him it was running ICS and what happened this time as well. $35 and no fuss.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
You are absolutely right.

I made it all up!.. because I DO have enough free time to spend over 40 hours in one week paying to talk to Sprint on a throw away while working 50 hours and trying to keep the woman satisfied all the while.

I am done with you. Think what you will.

Sorry for subjecting you all my inexcusably obvious lies. I should be ashamed of myself. :/

Sent from an SPH-D710 that doesn't even exist because I'm a compulsive liar that has nothing better to do with my time and am actually using Tapatalk from a modded NES in my mothers basement while using my tears as lubrication because my woman is made up too...and stuff.

PS. I also invented the iso-linear chip.

And the EZ-Bake Oven.

Oh, and all the techs I spoke with were awesome as well...seeing as how the initial tech refused an audience with me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
Wtf was that all about? Points to overhead.. Lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
LOL just some guy with his tin foil hat on too tight.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
I agree one hundred per hundred.

These signatures have always struck me as funny... so mine is just

I hope you have a good day.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Lol your tenacity is wasted working on phones. You should go join the military where ignorance and arrogance are appreciated qualities. You would rather assume that a person is paranoid than admit anyone in the world with your title is dishonest. You also assume to know everything about a situation while having no knowledge of it. I would happily let you see my Sprint account, seeing as you could access it with the proper information...but it much easier to just slap a label on it and keep running at the gums. I even tried to end it with humor... I am embarrassed to have gotten drawn into your immature game or to have been taunted by your childish remarks but still you persist? PM an email address and tomorrow you can see for yourself.

Unless you prefer your bliss.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TonyTurboII:
Sorry, my time is too important to waste laughing at the notes on your account.

Now if we could get back on topic, How not to brick your E4GT, not please listen to me cry AFTER bricking my E4GT.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Yeah, run from proof of your idiocy.

And ftr, I never cried about anything. I fully admitted to my recklessness.

Just another example of your ignorance, I suppose.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zarthan:
Now both of you both stick out your tongues, make a silly face and run off to mother.

Stop this childish behavior.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Only if you'll play mama!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
Better hope poster is a she and also hot! Otherwise more recklessness......;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] feelmyepictouch:
There's no girls on the internet, it's all just one big fat guy.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
I'm using aokp34 right now and I just mOdined el26 cwm so that I could flash back to gb through cwm but I was wondering if it was safe to do so, you know without bricking. :p

Here's what I've been doing: Current ROM(AOKP) (download mode) Use el29 one-click until finished. Auto-root el29-cwm-rogue. Flash custom el29 rom.

Is there a faster, and more mobile, way to do this?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
If you don't care about the phone booting to android, just flash EL26+CWM like you did, and do your restores or flashes from there. The flash counters get incremented and you trigger the yellow triangled, but but can be reset with Triangle Away when you have an ICS kernel. Alternatively use a jig to reset or if you don't care then just ignore it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PanchoPlanet:
just for the heck of it!

Pp.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DssTrainer:
So I'd like to try AOKP. According to the links in the first post, it says I need to follow the QBKing video.

The QBKing video says you need to flash to CM7 first... is this still accurate?

I am on GB EL29 now. Rooted and using Rogue Recovery, but stock

Do I first flash CM7..

then wipe

Then Flash AOKP?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xST4T1K:
Sorry I haven't been on here in a while. The reason why I had stated to install CM7 was because you need CWM to install AOSP-based roms. At the time CM7 was the easiest way to get it, Now we have the kernel floating around everywhere so you can do this (pulled directly from TCP's AOKP install instructions. I always recommend being on a GB rom before flashing to aosp just in case. I will be updating this thread soon, sorry for the lack of updates, I have been really busy ;)

-Flash EL26 stock CWM kernel via the PDA option in ODIN/Mobile ODIN

-When phone begins reboot, Hold Power + Volume up until boots into recovery.

-Wipe data/factory, cache and dalvik cache

-Flash ROM

-Flash Gapps

-Reboot

Some reports state that it may need a second flash of the rom to get it to boot. So if your initial rom flash is really quick, flash the rom a second time, right after the initial flash.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Silent B0B:
Attention Kmart Shoppers!( for the older crowd )

Blue Light on my 710 , used the international bootloader

After reading this whole thread I have learned alot! So thank you xda community

I usually research,and I just gave my g/f's nook an Android OS ( which is way easier than phones) and got cocky :eek:... I jump in with both feet forward and whammo!!!! BRICK!!!! :rolleyes: Lesson learned , read read read , and when your tired or reading... read some more

**edit**

oh and use the search!!!!

**/edit**
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zarthan:
I remember when it was a blue candle
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sooppex:
Instead of posting a thread, i'll ask here. Either i'm blind or it's not there, but do you have to be on stock EL29 to flash to ICS (FBx,FCx,FDx). I'm looking to go to FD26 and i'm on EL29 now, but I can only assume I flashed the stock rom since I don't have something other than stock recovery. Is a different (Rouge, CWM) recovery needed on EL29 to flash ICS or can I just re-flash stock EL29 then flash sfhub's FD26?

I've been able to do GB flashes without a problem, but this whole hard bricking your phone has made me wait like 3-4 months. I'm done waiting.

Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
If you use the Full ODIN OneClick FD26 flash, it doesn't care what you are currently on or what you have installed. It will just overwrite everything.

If you use the NoData ODIN OneClick, usually upgrades work, but if not (boot loop or lots of FCs), install the Full version or do a factory reset.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Quincy_adams:
Caulklin E4GT 2 series v1.5 ICS

Does anyone know if I can use CWM to load this rom? Thanks. Don't know the proper forum to ask the question so please be nice and point me to the right forum :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
You can use CWM to load but do so from a GB kernel - EL26/EL29 are the most popular versions. Possibly more news on this soon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamice4u:
Instead of going into cwm my phone says firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again. Help my phone can get into download mode but it fails when I try in install a rom or cwm. I think I messed up the phone's cwm. I basically tried to flash EL26 stock kernel with odin 1.85 for FE07.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
Have you resolved this or is it off to the graveyard?

Can you still boot to download mode?

What ROM were you coming from?

This may be the same horrible thing that everybody has warned you about, happened to me a few weeks ago...but I had been silly and tortured that poor phone..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] acerti0519:
CM9 and Clockwork Recovery Issue.

Hello, I'm new to the Epic Touch and flashed CM9 and I keep loosing the clockwork recovery. I use the GB rooted odin image to restore back to and then

flash the cm recovery and flash the rom I want. Now my question is can I just flash back cwm recovery while on cm9 without bricking my device. And is team win recovery stable enough yet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] watchout5:
The way I understood CM9 when I used it in alpha 3 there was no CWM recovery, just stock, I don't think alpha4 added a custom recovery. Currently there are some issues where if you use Factory Wipe data from a ICS recovery it will completely brick your phone, it's not 100%, we really don't know all the specifics, but since the beginning of CM9 they didn't include a custom recovery for this reason. Some people have had luck using odin to flash a custom recovery on it however I'd advise against it. If you really want CM9 to have a custom recovery look to see if other people have had better success with. Personally I went to Blu FE10 ROM because there are a lot more kernals other people have tested as working but I'm still rocking the FD26 rogue kernal that may be your best bet for a custom recovery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ih8aol:
From what I have read in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1644364 , two things were probably responsible for your brick. The CWM touch and restoring a GB from ICS.

I guess you could say "Double Whammy!"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kebetz:
My hard brick was neither touch recovery or a cross-compatible restore.

Simply factory resetting on ICS with an ICS based kernel's recovery while getting ready for a fresh install.

People have let their guard down as far as custom recovery goes as long as you aren't using it for anything that touches partitions.

I personally would recommend playing it safe and handling all of your flashing/backup/restoring through EL26, as suggested almost everywhere.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ih8aol:
I did a factory reset with one of the first ICS leaks; FC07 I believe and went back to EL26 for a while. I probably got lucky. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ijoshv2:
Just posted in the DEV section about this, linking to this page. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26386997

I've heard that flashing a non-ICS kernel from ODIN on a computer solves these issues..

Has ANYONE confirmed this?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Until Xstatic has a chance to update the main post there is new information on this issue. Please refer to the first post on this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1644364

Issue can happen even without being on CM9 or CWM - for now the safest is to do any wipes, factory resets, etc from a GB kernel.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xST4T1K:
;) Just updated with a link to SFHUBS thread
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Flashing any Kernel is safer through odin than Mobile Odin. No roms kernels or resets should be flashed from an ICS kernel that does not have a workaround for the 0x19 eMMC firmware bug. Flashing kernels and roms or performing resets is safe on gingerbread kernels.

If you flash a non ICS kernel while on an ICS rom your phone will not boot to Android. You will be able to use recovery. Flashing the EL26 CWM kernel through ODIN is the safe way to change roms while on ICS for the moment.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dynoboot:
Thanks for this thread, I didn't realize until today the danger that awaited me. I flashed a leaked 4.0.3 and because of instability wanted to flash back. Last night before realizing the potential troubles by this I attempted to wipe and install from rom manager and CWM (specifically I tried Caulkins format all from Android recovery, and to install Venom rom from Rom manager after and selecting full wipe). They failed, however I haven't noticed any unusual problems beyond that (neither got very far, after probably a second or two gave me the little android guy with a red exclamation, rebooted fine and works as it has). I wanted to Odin back to stock rooted as suggested in this thread, but am now a bit worried that my attempted wipe last night may spell doom if I try to OC now. Is there a specific way to test and see if I can write to /data before flashing?

I'm wondering if I should hold off for a bit and see if perhaps I should wait a bit and see if perhaps devs come up with some sort of fix for this, or if I should try to flash OC and avoid any other potential pitfalls that may arise. Also, when you say do not wipe, does that mean I should use the NODATA flash or can I use the other one? Apologies if this should be posted in QA, I thought it pertinent to the threads topic.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Rom Manager and E4GT doesn't belong in the same post !

Going back to Gingerbread should be done from ODIN, whether you wish to use a tar or grab a one click. Flashing at this point should be done from gingerbread as far as custom ics roms go, stock as well but you have one clicks for those.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dynoboot:
I see well I won't use Rom manager anymore...Truthfully the only reason I was using it was using it in the first place was it was an easier way to boot into CWM since my case is finnicky w/ the volume rocker. I'm a bit new at this obviously. Given that I tried to wipe don't seem to have succeeded and everything seems to be fine, is it safe to presume I should be fairly safe in one-clicking back to Gingerbread? Or should I wait?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
I am not actually sure what the total issue with rom manager is, but it has been said not to use it. I know part of the issue stems from the "fake/temp flash" issue because our recovery is repacked into the kernel. I have never had any success with gaining the temporary access using it so I have to take peoples word for it.

As far as booting into recovery easier from a running phone. Some custom roms have this in the power menu, Calkulin's 3.0 EL29 has it. Also lookup quick boot which is on Calk's rom its an app that lets you reboot to recovery. I dont think quick boot does download mode but many roms that have it in the power menu do.

As long as you can get into Download mode its safe to give it a shot. The one click is a prepackaged method of the same thing a technician would be doing to your phone if they had it at this point. Its THE safest way to leave ICS and the way to put the phone back to stock (rooted in this case).