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[Asus Transformer TF700] edrodata:
Give me a break.

ian1, Your post, #1210, has the keyword "GPS" in it. So do 48 other posts according to a search. Most of those posts are valid grips about the poor GPS reception in the ASUS Prime. That's 48 out of 1210. Hardly "Literally half",,

Here are the posts that I can find specifically related to the GPS in the ASUS Infinity other than speculation.

Please note that nowhere in this thread or elsewhere that I've seen as of this morning verifies there will be a supported GPS in the Infinity. As I previously said I can't imagine that they wouldn't have one. But there is nothing definitive about it in any specifications from ASUS. Right?

I'm not trying to flame here. I just asked a question and so far haven't gotten an answer. If the answer is "we just don't know for sure yet, but it seems likely", then that's fine.

So far, the answer:

I wonder if that is speculation or if there is some source to back that up that I have missed.

I guess I need to "get out of the kitchen" because I really don't need this heat. My expectation was that I'd have some friendly dialog but so far I'm pretty bummed out.

I'll just lurk or whatever it is called when you read a thread without posting anything.

Edro :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
It will have GPS. ASUS has never confirmed that there was a problem with wifi on the prime. So in their minds the plastic strip on the back is mainly for gps reception. I believe the movies posted last page mention gps, that richie guy.

As for a-gps, it is very handy to ensure a a quick fix. With a-gps its a matter of seconds before you get a fix, without a-gps it can be a matter of minutes, but can be quite fast as well.

I think a-gps uses both wifi and cellular information to help gps get a fix. I dont know what contributes the most, nor do I know if we will have it in the infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] UberShrewd:
Check this out, an interview with Gary Key which I'm sure many here have already read. He acknowledges the weaknesses in the Prime, which undoubtedly are being addressed in the Infinity. He mentions A-GPS too. It wouldn't make sense for the Infinity to not have GPS.

h ttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57373634-94/putting-the-transformer-prime-in-perspective/

Just remove the space between the http.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
No answer from AsusUK to my email which is frankly unusual. They are normally pretty quick.

Must be getting fed up with saying "we don't know" to everyone all the time.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
feel free to post as much as you want. not everyone is like that.

It was funny seeing my old posts though. wouldn't the fcc filing, which has been released previously, show if it has GPS or not?

I believe it does but I can understand you wanting to see proof or something more concrete.

Glad you liked the entertaining early discussions. LOL those were fun times ;)

But dont let others discourage you from posting.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gmguk:
No answer from AsusUK to my email which is frankly unusual. They are normally pretty quick.

Must be getting fed up with saying "we don't know" to everyone all the time.

Not half as fed up as I am :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] flight777:
It has GPS look at the unboxing video and notice the sticker on the box at 0:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ4x4wV74wM&feature=plcp
[Asus Transformer TF700] cloudcult:
Hi guys, I'm lost with all the confusing news, I would like to ask you these 2 simple questions:

Is the wifi version of the infinity finally out (if yes, where?)?

Any news on the LTE version?

Thank you :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Johnex:
No wifi version is out, latest news says release in the end of June.

No news on the LTE version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] megamoz:
So, the Italian release date of 11 of June was just a rumor?? :confused:
[Asus Transformer TF700] UberShrewd:
Nice pick up flight777. Indeed confirmed it has GPS capability.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cloudcult:
Thank you for the reply!

So depressing :(

After the announcement on the Transformer books, do you still think it makes sense to buy an Infinity? I'm sure you aleady discussed this matter, but If you could share your thoughts with me, I would really appreciate!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Johnex:
Well it depends.

Some things to think about are that the Infinity has a CPU and Design that has been tested and is in 3 iterations now (Prime, TF300, TF700). The Tegra 3 cpu has been out for a while, only new change is the CPU clock.

Android has also been out for a long time and it has evolved just for the purpose in recent versions to make tablet use as good as possible. Things work very well, and there are always roms to make things work even better.

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On the other hand, the new Windows 8 Transformers and laptops running full Windows 8 (not RT) are based on a new design to accommodate the larger and beefier Intel CPU's. Just by thinking about it i think, low battery life, and high heat. If you look at the Tablet running the Core i7 is has the exhaust on one of the sides, and i really dont know if that is enough to keep the entire tablet cool....

Windows 8 is also totally new, there are no real apps yet for things like Maya, Photoshop and so on. Firefox and Chrome are just barely pushing out previews of their apps for Metro, so i recon things will be buggy on top of that.

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I will definitely get the Infinity now when its out, rather than sit and beta test on 2 fronts.

My 2 cents :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Guardsix:
You have to decide if you want to purchase a laptop or a tablet. The price of the "Book" will have to be competitive with other notebooks, probably around $1,000US. It's premium feature is the separation of the screen. I cannot imagine this type of tablet being lite-weight.

Just my opinion!
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
I simply cannot get excited about Windows on a tablet. Maybe it'll come with time but right now, if both were available, I'd still choose Android.
[Asus Transformer TF700] brucewilsonpa:
While I would tend to agree with this statement, I invested in a Samsung Series 7 Slate last Fall and installed the Win8 previews, starting with Developer to current Pre Release preview. The Series 7 is a nicely designed tablet and Samsung includes some extra UI features to make it more like the Android (or iPad) tablet most of us are used to -- some mini-apps that pop-up easily and are quite finger accessible -- not bad! The Win8 Metro UI works well although I'm not personally sold on this approach yet -- need to see more apps that work like what I'm used to (mail is among them). But I routinely use the S7S with Win8 for my day-to-day needs and it works well -- for the Windows desktop screen a stylus is helpful but I can generally get what I need done w/o one (S7S comes with a stylus designed for this screen).
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
ASUS ITALY Promo video

http://youtu.be/16NBfAPHxyo

Enjoy it, I did not understand too much but great to watch
[Asus Transformer TF700] crazililazn:
Thank god I saw this thread! Still within the 30-day return period of my Prime hehe :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] techtied:
This is one sexy tablet :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
The videos are great and all but what we all really want is an announcement on release dates & pricing already! Please Asus!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Croak:
Site link to the article that spawned all those recent videos, in case you missed it on YouTube:

http://ritchiesroom.com/2012/06/12/asus-transformer-infinity-first-look/
[Asus Transformer TF700] opentoe:
Even though my life does suck, I have a lot more self esteem then you. I don't need an ego kick or some electronic device to make myself feel better. That's a pretty sad reason to buy large ticket items. Anyway, to each his own.

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You are forgetting this is only Android. Uses a fraction of what a Windows OS can. Also, I guess you never heard quality speakers on a "good" laptop. They are very nice and the sound quality is just as good as getting an external bluetooth to carry around all over. I use a high quality Sennheiser wireless headset for my music needs. And when I'm home, my sound system does the rest.
[Asus Transformer TF700] UberShrewd:
opentoe, I don't see why you have a problem with people wanting to buy the Infinity. Any of these tech devices are luxury items, and we are entitled to spend what we can afford on what we would like to have. There's no need to get personal.

If the Infinity user reviews are a disappointment I will probably lean towards an ultrabook to replace my laptop altogether, instead of having both a laptop and a tablet. Which is a shame since that would've been fun!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Norcalz71:
I think his point is that pricing an item like this into the realm of devices that do MUCH more opens the door for anyone on the fence to walk away. The ipad3 is spendy, but truth be told it is a very nice unit and while there are laptops that exist at its price point, they are not high end devices. As things stand now, android will NOT beat apple in the tablet market with fancy features and big price tags, they have to offer more for less since the iPad is synonymous with tablet.

You want a flagship model that is just the flagship and for tech geeks who have to have the latest and greatest toy (me), then fine price it however. But if you want a flagship that competes with apples flagship and really gives it a strong dose of competition, you are going to have to match or undercut them on price, no question.
[Asus Transformer TF700] terjeofnorway:
Although I agree with your point, I think the issue is more complex than mere price. In terms of competition between the iPad 3 and the Infinity, there are four parameters to take into account:

Performance and functionality

Preliminary benchmarking shows that the Infinity outperforms iPad 3 on 3 of 4 tests. The Infinity also out-functions the iPad (external SD, micro HDMI etc). So performance: check.

Price

At least in Norway, the iPad 3 (both at 64gb, wifi only) is actually priced some 66 USD higher than the Infinity, so price: check.

Design

In the mind of the marked, Apple is perceived as the very pinnacle of design. This mere perception is very hard to compete with, even if your design does turn out to be better. I think many will agree that we're not buying the Infinity just because it looks better than the iPad. So design: failed.

Identity

Apple knows how to sell identity as part of the package. We all seek to belong, and owning an Apple product has for a long time been synonymous with good taste and trend setting, although this perception seem to be changing. Owning an Infinity may communicate digital know-how and tech-savvyness, but Asus has failed to build an accessible identity around the Transformer line that is as appealing to the general user as the Apple products. So identity: failed.

So although I won't hesitate to label the Infinity an iPad killer on performance alone, I'm not sure Apple is going to lose that much market share to Asus on this one. Still, wonders may happen, and the initially doomed Samsung Galaxy Note did actually sell pretty well as there was a segment out there craving larger screens.

Predicting what the market wants can be tricky sometimes.

(May have to do a Cartman and freeze myself until the Infinity comes out).
[Asus Transformer TF700] sapienssapiens:
Good for you!

And while you're at it, try to avoid personalizing arguments in the future.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pvdwaal:
I cannot find anything about it on the web, but how about current design flaws on the prime: are they solved on the infinity?

- is WIFI and GPS indeed a lot better now?

- SD card slot too shallow: card is sticking out and ejects "when you sneeze"

- HDMI port is also "shallow": it almost look that the slot will break if you tilt the tablet too much

Any info about this would be great
[Asus Transformer TF700] JTHM:
Hi terjeofnorway,

Umm... I definitely do not "seek to belong".

My single biggest reason for not having an Apple product in my house is because everyone's got them.

It would feel the same to me as it does to a woman going to a party to find someone else in the same dress.

I can't help it, but every time I see someone with an iPhone I immediately find myself labelling them a 'sheep' - even if it is the best thing out there for their level of tech "nounce"/acumen (...great for women and children!) ;) ...but that is just my own opinion.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
1) no one really knows. it has to release first for people to compare results. its likely to be better,but not like alot better, based on what I was told. but this person did have a reworked prime and his wifi n GPS worked fine.

2) unsure. I heard it was improved on 300 so likely infinity is also

3) same as 2

actually from first look video, from ritchies room, those ports do "look" improved. no one here can really give you an definitive answer here yet as it hasn't released yet. check out YouTube and look for ritchiesroom unboxing and first look at infinity pad.

actually link to videos is a few posts up, post #1231
[Asus Transformer TF700] UberShrewd:
-WIFI and GPS are theoretically supposed to be improved due to the plastic strip on the back casing enhancing reception. We will have to wait and see though.

-the SD card dilemma was pretty much rectified in the 300 pad. Here in this review h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT2O-CD9Ga4&feature=player_detailpage#t=467s the link goes to the exact spot where she mentions the SD card slot. One expects the Infinity to be fine in that respect.

-after she talks about the SD card slot she also looks at the micro hdmi port. It's better and could be further improved in the new model.

For me, battery life is important so I'll be expecting some reviews and opinions on the battery life. I know that the 300 is not particularly impressive in this aspect, and the Infinity will be much more demanding on power.
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
I haven't seen a 300 pad in person, but it seems to me the edge is less beveled than the prime and infinity. I think this is the reason both the HDMI port and the microSD port seems better. I really hope i am wrong though, as i did have problems with the Micro SD card falling out of the Prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
Still no answer from my email to AsusUK. I'm surprised frankly. Maybe I am on their ignore list now?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/acer-iconia-tab-a700-1920-x-1200-display-and-tegra-3/

$450 for a device that's similar in spec to Infinity 700. It is also the same price as A500 & below Transformer Prime. Isn't this an interesting twist??? Also up for pre-order starting today.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Svashtar:
You're missing one important fact - it is only and just a tablet, and Infinity can transform in to a beast :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] rferrett:
I'd still prefer an infinity but jeez the wait is killing me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Good find, I am amazed that they are pricing this equal to the A510. I would argue that this device doesn't come close to the Infinity. It is the A510 with better resolution. I had the A510 for a week, it is bulky and gets unbearably hot on the back right side when playing 3D games. The A700 has already shipped in France and initial reports indicate the heat issue is the same as the A510. I am now using a TF300 and it is superior in every way to the A510, except battery life (without the dock). Notwithstanding the Prime debacle, my experience is Asus provides a superior product.

EDIT: I am still hoping your point resonates with Asus and results in a $499 price for the Inifinity. :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
A700 vs TF700

While the Acer won the race to market, it does not win in specs

Tablet:................ TF700.................. A700

Resolution........... 1920 x 1280......... 1920 x 1200

Pixel density......... 228ppi................. 224ppi

Camera - Back...... 8MP..................... 5MP

Camera - Front..... 2MP..................... 1.3MP

Battery................ 25Wh + 22Wh...... 36Wh

Chipset................ 1.6GHz................ 1.3GHz

Weight................. 585g................... 680g

Thickness............. 8.5mm................. 10.16mm
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
I am really interested in how they plan on pricing this device at launch. The logical choice is $499 (if you consider the new iPad)....

but if so...

sure is going to piss off a lot of Transformer Prime owners...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Bluehorde:
I'm not sure if this means anything but the 16gb 300 just dropped to 349.99 on the best buy website.
[Asus Transformer TF700] megamoz:
Is it high time we started to discuss the accessories??:rolleyes:
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Well done. Plus metal vs plastic, plus dock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Techie2012:
no dockable keyboard = no interest
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
If this represents their big shot at the iPad, I believe upset Prime owners will be a price they will be willing to pay.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cheltenham2004:
@xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx por el momento, llegará en la versión 32GB a 499€ (solo PAD) y la versión 32GB + dock a 619€. Un saludo!

This has just been tweeted by ASUS IB. ref the infinity due on sale 2nd Week of July in Spain.
[Asus Transformer TF700] techtied:
TF300 now in white

Another update with the TF300. Looks like best buy has started to sell it in white now.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...218646128738&skuId=5432045&st=tf300&cp=1&lp=3

I am starting to think i may just buy the TF300, this wait for the Infinity is starting to annoy me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KrisTheRock:
"Starting", lol. I'm dying here.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Norcalz71:
Those selling points are purely subjective though. If Apple sells a car that goes 100 mph and Asus sells one that does 175, that only helps Asus if the majority of the market is looking for a car that goes that fast. If everyone is only interested in going 100 mph, or even 75 or 80, then the excess is not an appeal to them. Additionally, the ipad lacks dedicated HDMI out, SD slots, and standard USB connectors and it dominates. That is sound evidence that those are not necessarily functionalities that people crave. Not to mention, raw benchmarks are the dumbest ****ing ****-swinging contest in the computing world. Bragging rights, nothing else.

My point is simply that while I am an android user, I can't deny where Apple is absolutely destroying google and friends in terms of the product they deliver. They are selling an experience, and they are established.

The only way android is going to come in and take something big away from Apple in the tablet market is to offer a unit that competes in all areas that people CARE about, and offer it for less. If it costs roughly the same or more, people will just think "well I can get an iPad instead, and I "know its good"".

Google and their partners need to learn a thing or two from Apple if they want to sell, thats just the way of the world.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rockface:
Apple/Asus

You could argue all day about any of the features on either platform... But the one thing Apply does right is marketing! Take the new Mac Book pro (just announced) and is ALREADY available for purchase. They do not tease... they deliver!
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Yes, I was commenting on that on Monday. They get people excited, and the most anyone has to wait is a week to place an order. They get people when they're the most ready to buy (and do NOT give them much time to think about it), and give the competition pretty much no time to respond. It's brilliant.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gmguk:
So true - nor do they give potential customers months and months to spend their money on something else! :cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
this is exactly where I am. I'm looking for a near laptop like device, and it's the keyboard-dock that has me in it's thrall.

On the Apple issue, we got my wife an Ipad 3, 64Gb, 4G for Mother's Day. With warranty ($100) and a cover we were out the door at just over $1000. Then add the additional $120 (total now $1120, $1020 without the warranty) we spent on the Zagg keyboard-case, and we're in powerful laptop territory. This $500 price point everyone keeps talking about is only the "starting" price. It's not your final price. So even $800 for an Infinity 4G with dock is a HUGE price gap, especially when I get the device that allows me to work as I want to:

You see, every time I picked up the iPad to set it up for my wife or do some quick internet-something with it, I was (after admiring the beautiful screen) instantly made frustrated and angry. It kept doing things that I simply didn't like, hid settings from me I wanted to set, and plainly kept forcing me into a Apple's narrow view of what the "experience" should be. There were no widgets, no customizable home screen, even custom keyboards don't really exist. The term "walled garden" is entirely appropriate when shifted slightly to "walled experience". I hated it because I am no tech-newbie, so I kept bouncing off all the painted walls that look like a beach or a mountain or the painted ceiling that looks like a sky. So I will never purchase an apple product as long as they stay in this same design focus. Sure, they're selling a lot, more power to them.

My wife loves it, and is mostly happy in her walled garden (though she has had quite a few gripes as well). But for me, I'll take an Android device with the walls knocked down so I can walk to the real beach, the real mountains, and soar through the real sky at my slightest whim. (pardon the prose)

on a side note: when laid flat, I believe the iPad actually shifts the registered touch positions to offset the visual parallax between your vision angle and your fingertip, as I suddenly had to touch everything slightly lower on the screen position to get it to work. Apparently they compensate for people who dont' realize the touch-screen/glass is actually 3-dimensional and has thickness. That messed me all up.

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oh, also, that Zagg keyboard does not have a battery in it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Hemidroids:
EXACTLY

I have the same opinion and experience with my wife's iPAD 3. You conveyed it EXACTLY.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Actually, both tablets have 1920x1200 panels. The Infinity sports an Super IPS+ display however, while the Iconia "only" has an IPS display.

The docking feature is the only thing that makes the Infinity stand out compared to the A700 IMO. The minor clock difference makes no difference whatsoever for anyone but benchmark "ladies of the night" (to be slightly more family friendly :p). The two tablets will be pretty much identical in performance is my guess. Camera resolution is a big hype in most cases anyway. Cameras are a more of a nice-to-have feature than a must-have for tablets in my opinion. Image processing, optics etc have a greater impact on image quality than just the number of pixels anyway.

Weight and thickness can be a major selling point for some I guess, but as with the new Ipad: battery life trumps weight for a lot of people. The Infinity only beats it here with the docking included, which also increases the price.

The Iconia A700 looks great, and Acer have actually managed to set a date and start pre-orders unlike Asus. And not to mention with a competitive price!