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[Asus Transformer TF700] PrimeUser:
Not at all, I own the Prime, why should I buy something inferior? Infinity Pad when available with Tegra 4 2ghz chip, until then, my Prime stands king.:)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mafiatounes:
Does anyone know if the Tegra 3 version of the TF700 will come with bluetooth 4.0 or 2.1 version? I see a lot of different things on the web, and the Asus site says 2.1/4.0 this would mean that the Wifi or Lte version will get 4.0 but not both...
[Asus Transformer TF700] banone:
Went to the store today. Got approved for a refund on my prime, as the shop has taken too long fixing the lightbleed. I'll probably wait for the infinity now. Interesting question about BT. I have seen it, and assumed it meant i supported both versions.
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
As i understood, infinity has 4th version of bluetooth

http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_transformer_pad_infinity_700-4606.php
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
I wanted to ask a question. Imagine that i buy the Infinity as soon as it is starting being sold.

At first, for some time, there will be nothing from the custom ROMs and rooting available for infinity. What is the best method of importing all possible settings and apps from another android device to infinity if Titanium backup will not be available?

Other question: with the full HD screen of the infinity, does this also mean that drawing and handwriting with a stylus will be more smooth and realistic than on less DPI screens? Because the more pixels it has the less aliased lines we draw will be?
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
I don't know about system settings, but you could use the included ASUS AppBackup to back up different categories of apps to be moved over to the new Transformer which would also have AppBackup and should be able to restore them (or does AppBackup not do settings?). Really though, it'll likely have root pretty quickly, and TiBu will be available and my preferred route.

To the second question: Yes. Everything should look and therefore "feel" much more natural, so long as they also do something about the wavy diagonal lines present in most Android devices. Draw some slow, diagonal lines and you'll find it difficult to come out with anything even remotely straight. But the tiny little HD screen should "eliminate" pixels and evidence of most aliasing as well as the new iPad does (does it? I have yet to see one still).
[Asus Transformer TF700] camspy:
My current android device is not Asus, so i don't have its AppBackup
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Comparison between Snapdragon S4 and Tegra 3 in Dutch:

http://tweakers.net/reviews/2516/1/...inleiding-twee-verschillende-filosofieen.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
We had one posted a few days ago and translated. It was a Russian tech site. tegra3 won the shootout.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
I'll try side-loading it to my phone to see if it will still work. Really, root will be available quick enough, regardless of what a lot of people are saying dev's aren't about to just make everyone unlock to be able to root; we'll get a new method and I strongly believe the Infinity will have a method soon enough after release. Then TiBu will be just fine.
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
It seems my fears on pricing are (so far) unfounded.

Lets hope the Infinity is priced as reasonably as the Pad 300.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
from the Asus Infinity Facebook page

same thing i payed for my xoom.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
The Asus Infinity Facebook page had a link to Gizmodo Canada which had the following paragraph:

"Update April 23rd : Closer Release Date and Estimated Pricing

So the release date for the Transformer Pad Infinity is being pushed up to June 10th, thats good news for some… The 32GB model for Transformer Infinity has been put at $599 while it is expected that the 64GB variant will cost around $699. So, the pricing of the Transformer Infinity fits nicely with the estimated prices in US because we know that usually these electronics tend to be more expensive in Europe than the US."

The original url is here: http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/03/transformer-prime-infinity-release-date-and-specifications/
[Asus Transformer TF700] agtitan:
I was really hoping for 499 price to match iPad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
You can use My Backup app to back up apps or astro file manager (go to menu > tools > application backup)

However there's no way to back up or restore app data and setting without root. So all you can do is restore apps.
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
Agreed. But maybe Asus will price it lower to compete with ipad otherwise most normal consumers wont buy it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
The $600 (32GB version) is including the dock right.. otherwise it would be ridiculously expensive?
[Asus Transformer TF700] claude4:
Dream on!

Dock w/b extra.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Really? So it's going to be even more expensive than the prime? Jeez..

The prime including dock costs €600 in the Netherlands. Since these people simply interchange the dollar sign with the euro sign (and dare to call it similar!!) that means that the infinity with the dock would cost about €700.

Seems like they are asking a mark-up that is simply too high to be profitable.
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
The mark up will definitely be profitable, the question is whether they will sell any meaningful volumes at that mark up. This device is an upgrade from the Prime, with better resolution, etc. But over $500, the price of an ipad3, will people purchase it? Us Android fanatics like myself, probably, but mass market, I doubt many will.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
I understand the 700's price point, but it will be killed in sales due to same price as new iPad.

Overall, I would choose the 700 if only one tablet choice (assuming display rocks), but most consumers will choose the iPad. I expect the 700 to be even more exotic than the Prime, as far as availability (volume produced).

Seems for Android tablets to do well, they need to be priced less than iPad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Think I may end up buying a ClamCase (http://clamcase.com/ipad-3-keyboard-case-trooper.html) with a new iPad, or the 300T transformer.

The fact that we have to wait a number of months more and the price is going to be even steeper than the prime (while in my humble opinion it should simply outphase the prime, and thus take on the same price) is enough reason to go for either of those instead.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sontin:
There is no reason to lower the price. Average Joe is not interessted in a Android-Tablet at the moment. Even if the Infinity would cost $499, people will buy the new iPad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
What makes you think the average person is not interested?

That's such a widely overused phrase for this tablet. Worst of all it is so wrong, my local shop is selling transformers like a baker sells bread. The only exception is that the baker does not get out of stock, while my local shop does. These people have never heard of xda-developers, they just like to have a keyboard (which in my opinion is the biggest selling point of the transformer, hence the name).

Edit: I guess you could argue that's why there is a 300T version (in europe called Transformer Lite) but even average people do not like to buy "light"-versioned gadgets and they do like high-res screens. Why else would these people buy the new iPad, because of its added thickness? I think not.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
Now I'm just making fun, plenty of my friends and loved ones use iCrap and I've got nothing against it. But none of them get these things because of the specs or anything, and that goes for the new one as well. They get it just because it's new and they can, and they're actually willing to listen to the little fella trying to bump up his commission at the Apple store (like at GameStop lol, they crack me up). Now, this is a generalization and in no way a fact or anything, but it's the majority of what I see.

Around here at least, you have an iPad because your company gave it to you or because you can't be bothered with really thinking for yourself. Again, I'm not trying to be mean, but it's what I see. And it's not a bad thing! I get it, some people don't want to style their own $500 device, it should just come out of the box at 100% ready and awesome: I on the other hand feel pretty jaded if I can't spend hours upon hours customizing and tweaking, getting my money's worth of the device :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mafiatounes:
If the 32gb/wifi version will cost 600 i will buy it, if it will be more than 700 than they will not a lot of these
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Remember you probably still want to buy the dock. And were you speaking in euros or dollars?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mafiatounes:
Meant 600 € including the dock, if it is without dock it's to expensive
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
I agree, I had the same mindset.

Basically this would mean that it is going to replace the prime. I think that's a reasonable assumption though.
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
Im buying this puppy no matter what :D cant wait, too bad I have to wait for quite some time... But I really hope it doesnt cost 700usd + 150 for the dock, cuz that will hurt my wallet real bad...
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
Same here lol, although I almost wish I could say that I'm ready to swear off ASUS. Really though I'm just getting started :D

A lot of dev work for the Prime should be easily ported over once the time comes right? I'm hoping that pretty much right after launch that whatever's available and stable for the Prime will also be the same for the Infinity. This hope is born from the apparent to-be battery issues, because we'll likely get our devices optimized to last like two weeks with light use. I don't see why the Infinity would lag behind too terribly bad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] undercover:
I'm sure tf201 will quietly fade into retirement 2-3 months after infinity becomes available and we'll be left with a cheaper 300 and 700 priced the same as current price of tf201.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
That was my original thought, but we'll see. I wouldn't mind lol I could totally handle pretty much buying a second "Prime". It was that extra $100 that was making it iffy.
[Asus Transformer TF700] junrider:
I second that. Seeing the prime is still yet to be mass produced to be readily available in the brick and mortar stores. I just think they are making just enough to say its not discontinued to not anger the current tf201, till we see the pad 300 and infinity on the shelf with the infinity's price tag where the prime used to sit. I can imagine seeing all 3 are side by side at a store and consumers are testing the wifi and GPS on all three and seeing the prime with a weak signal and no GPS because the charger is plugged in and the dongle cant be used, while the prime's lil brother and big brother have strong wifi and GPS fully functional. If Asus is smart they should launch the infinity at 599 with a 100 rebate ;). Bumping heads with the ipad's price is not a wise move especially when the prime left a bad taste in a lot of their consumers.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Alfredos:
It's for sale on this website

http://www.portagadgets.com/australia/product.php?productid=45736&utm_source=myshopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Laptops&utm_term=ASUS+Transformers+Pad+Infinity+TF700T+WIFI+64GB+NVIDIA+Tegra+3
[Asus Transformer TF700] Bertelsen:
I just sold my TF201, needed the money. Cant wait for the TF700.

I was very happy with my prime, no problems. Just the usual GPS problems.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mafiatounes:
When the Prime came out i almost bought it, i was glad i didn't because of the Wifi issue's. But still i think Gps is not mandatory in a tablet Wifi is. Really hope the TF700 does not have any hardware problems when it is out.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Bertelsen:
Yeah, I know what you mean. Well, I didnt care for the GPS, I primary use my phone for navigation. To much of a hassle to drag the prime out of my backpack, and walking around with it. And it doesnt have 3G/4G, so I had to tether it with my phone.

I will miss my TF201, roaming around all the webshops to find some pre ordering. :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Super IPS screen.

I almost bought the Transformer Pad 300T, because the Infinity is going to take so long and will be more expensive (than the prime even).

However, I will want to work outside a lot. I will be in Indonesia for half a year, with a constant 30 degrees celcius. With the sun shining in my screen all the time, is that Super IPS (600 something) really needed, when compared to the normal IPS of the 300T (which has 300 something)?

My guess is yes, and I should be patiently waiting for the Infinity..

Even better, are there videos showing the usage of the Prime / 300T in bright sunlight?

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm8UP4P_7Ms

Ok, I definitely need to wait. Has there been a release date for the Benelux / The Netherlands?
[Asus Transformer TF700] David Dee:
Nice find, I just wish there was a definitive shipping date!
[Asus Transformer TF700] blauciel:
The Infinity is for people like me that abhor the iPad. My wife just got one, 64gb with 4g, and it cost $900. Every time I try to use the iPad 3,it makes me angry because it seems to think I'm an idiot and can't do things for myself. I don't know that I would keep one even if it's free. I'd sell it and get the Infinity. Even if the dock is separate, it should be comparable or cheaper. Then add in all the free apps on Android compared to the priced ones on the Apple Store and Android will be much cheaper in the long run. Not to mention being free of Apple's walled garden.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] tommedema:
Well, that's not really fair. Only a few people will pay $900 for the iPad 3. Most will just get the normal version, which only costs $550. If you are going to buy the 64GB + Dock + 3G (LTE?) Transformer Pad Infinity you'll have to spend an insane amount for this gadget too.

Also, in Holland the new iPad costs €470, so they did not just interchange the currency signs. On the contrary, Asus does seem to think that asking $600 in the US justifies asking €600 in the EU.

And if it's only about having Android, the Transformer Pad TF300 seems like a good fit.

I think I need the Super IPS screen because most of my tablet work will be done outside in bright sunlight.
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
For me I need android. I agree with the subjective feeling of beeing treated like a dumbass whenever I use an ipad. But to be fair I've never tried jailbraking one so I can't really say I've given it a fair chance. I just dont like apple and thats a choice I made and im sticking with it.

When it comes to the reasons I want the transformer infinity. I need the best. I want the resolution, the cores, the keyboard, the sd reader, the ips+ brightness. Just the sum of it all makes me all tingly and soft inside. =)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mafiatounes:
Same here i want an Android tablet and i want the best, i'm still between the Infinity and the Note 10.1, will see wich one is the best when there both out.

I had an iPad 2 for like 2 months and sold it, it's handy but like some comments made here it make's you feels like your dumb, an app grid as an OS is not what i want!
[Asus Transformer TF700] helfone:
Nice comments there. I see your points very well actually. One of the main reasons im waiting for the infinity is cuz of the screen. I really see the benefit of the higher resolution screen.

As for the app situation, I couldn't agree more. Android market should do a much better job of emphasizing what apps are good for tablet or not. I hope and believe this will be fixed by the next google io. There are many rumors of google releasing their own tablet, do I assume they would do something with the app situation. However I don't see the problem with phone apps "sort of" working with tablets. This is good. Serious developers will still make a proper tablet version of their apps. If u so happen to like an app from a an unserious developer, well then u have the choice to do so.

If I could afford, I would too buy the iPad, but for my gf. That what my conscience would be clean (I wouldn't own an icrap product :p). But I could still play around with those apps. Also in general I like to use apple products from friends so I can find strengths and weaknesses.

Anyways, thx for your thoughts wynand32.
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
I love this response because soooooo many people on here were saying that a resolution higher than 12800x800 was just wasteful and that no one would be able to tell the difference. I just kept thinking, "Wait for the iPad 3 to come out... wait for the iPad 3 to come out..." and lo and behold it turns out that higher resolution really is worth something. :banghead:
[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
1280x800 vs 2048x1536 - Of course you'll notice a difference, pretty much SD vs HD - The Prime in all its glory is still pretty pixelated, but not that bad.

1920x1200 (1080) vs 2048x1536 - You are not about to notice a difference, unless you pull out a magnifying glass.

I don't know about others, but my argument was never that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the Prime and the iPad, or that the higher resolutions wouldn't be awesome. My argument is that Apple went overkill because you're not going to be able to tell the difference between the Infinity (which will use your standard HD resolution of 1080(p?)) and the iPad.

But what does it matter at this point when they're still selling the iPad for the same price-points? They didn't go crazy like ASUS was about to try and do with their pricing, so it's ok to go overkill. Not hurting the end-user or society any more than it already was :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mafiatounes:
+ when watching a movie or video you have the black bars on top and bottom with the ipad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Like I said, I'll get a TF700 on launch day if text on it is as good as the iPad. Then, I'll keep the iPad so I have access to all the apps, until (hopefully) Google Play catches up in terms of tablet-optimized apps.
[Asus Transformer TF700] GrillMouster:
I'm less concerned with the resolution difference between the new iPad and the Infinity as I am with the color gamut. The new iPad has good color accuracy and covers nearly the entire sRGB color space.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Yes, there's that, too. I found the colors on the Prime to be okay, but do notice that the colors on the iPad are excellent (if you get one without the yellow tint, which I think does tend to skew things a bit). Overall, the iPad has an excellent screen, and I'm really hoping that someone (ASUS with the TF700 or Samsung) releases a tablet with something competitive.

But my main point is to stress how excellent text is on the iPad, because for me that's the clincher. 80% of what I use a tablet for is text-based. And as I keep writing about the iPad (especially in the TF700 thread), I have to stress:

I do NOT prefer the iPad. I prefer the iPad's screen and apps. Using the iPad is tedious and bothersome, and really emphasizes to me just how much better Android SHOULD BE on a tablet. Give me an Ice Cream Sandwich tablet with as good a screen and with more tablet-optimized apps, and I'd be in heaven.
[Asus Transformer TF700] je55ter:
Really? Text??? That just makes no sense to me.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of high-res screens. I was ecstatic when they started putting 720p displays in phones (I have a Galaxy Nexus), and one of the things I'm most looking forward to on the TF700 is the display.

But why would it be so important for text of all things? I can read text on a 1980's green CRT monitor just as well as I can read it on an iPad screen. As long as you instantly recognize what words you're looking at, why would anyone care how pretty or pixelated the letters are? The ideas being communicated are the same either way. I suppose if you liked cramming as much text as possible on your screen at a tiny font size, it might matter a little bit. But even for really small fonts, the 1280x800 display on my current tablet is enough that my eyesight is a bigger limitation than than the screen for reading them.

Of all the things improved by a high-res display, I would probably put reading text at the bottom of the list.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
True there are bars on the iPad, but the iPad 3 viewable resolution is still better than the current Android tabs, in spite of this. I have a wifi iPad 64gb and tether with my Razr. Trying out the 510 at the moment and will either keep it, or wait for the Infinity. I like having both platforms, since good stuff on both- App ecosystem on the iPad and emulators and more free use of web and media on Android.

Must admit the 510 is growing on me big, so would be hard going back to the Thrive and waiting for the Infinity. I may just stick with the 510, since already have the luscious display on the iPad. Not to mention the Infinity will be $150 more.

BTW, text and comics are like viewing the real thing on paper with the iPad. Images are also a lot better too. I hope the 700 fairs as well :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
I don't disagree with any of your points. I was just saying that I had multiple, 4-5+, people arguing with me that any increase in resolution over the Prime would be overkill. I think the iPad's ridiculous resolution is what it is simply so they could scale apps properly, and that the Infinity's 1980x1200 will be more than enough.

I would venture to say that you have that completely backwards. I don't mean that in an insulting way, I just don't think you realize/understand why an increased resolution is so beneficial for text on a screen. A huge part of it has to do with aliasing, and a very simple explanation is that it's not going to use the same amount of pixels as the 1280x800 screens and make the text a lot smaller-- each letter or character will be drawn with 3-4x the amount of pixels to increase clarity and detail. Pop open the notification bar and see if any of the subtext on a notification would be easier to read if it had more pixels to give each of those letters.

With a higher resolution it is simply

more comfortable

on your eyes to read text. I can read text on the little chart at the optometrist's office just fine, the "ideas (letters in this case) being communicated are the same either way," but it's not comfortable. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of personal accounts online about the iPad 3 that support this with anecdotal evidence. My main justification for buying a tablet (other than being a technophile anyway :D lol) was that I would get all my textbooks on it as etextbooks because they are a fraction of the cost, so reading comfort in my case is paramount.
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
One of the things I noticed a picture of the Infinity is a new location for the headphone jack. I'm recalling this off memory, but I think it was at the bottom right corner of the screen. This means it won't be hanging down, over your keyboard, or any other annoying position I've found it it. I watch a TV show during lunch just about every day, so this improved cable management excites me greatly.
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
The sad part is when the TF700 is released, developers are not gonna be so quick to update their apps to take advantage of the higher res screen since 1920x1200 is not gonna be the norm for a while. So were still going to be stuck with upscaled apps and its gonna look the same as it does on a 1200x800 screen. We can only put that high res to use when watching 1080p videos. But I really hope I'm wrong...
[Asus Transformer TF700] vittogn:
That's true, but all text based apps (newspapers, magazines, browsers....) will have an immediate benefit.