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[HTC Sensation] Shery4life:
Hey man don't need to get pissed off . Beside u Made ur point by saying use google translate
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
Lol I wasn't pissed. I guess it could have been read that way but it wasn't :p
[Kindle Fire General] Rouquemoute:
I tried most of the CM9 ROMs on this forum and none of them would get apps like UPnPlay or BubbleUPnP to work.

Basically those apps should wirelessly connect to UPnP music servers.

It works fine on the CM7 ROMs that I've tried though.

This is likely to be an issue with WiFi driver not properly supporting UPD Multicast.

vampyrex13 also faces this issue.

Just wanted to check if devs are aware of the problem.

Thanks.
[Kindle Fire General] YaKillaCJ:
Hmm I dont like either because they just suck and over complicated.

For playing/controlling music via the device, I HIGHLY Recommend 2Player Network Music Player. Its by far the best DLNA/UPnP frontend App.

Now as far as letting your device become a server, controlleble by others. I use Twonky Mobile. If Im not mistaken, it works fine on Ice Cream Sandwitch now. Program a lil crappy but its free and does what I need.
[Kindle Fire General] theTwiz:
re-read the post. this is about UDP multicast, which is required for all upnp/dlna. 2player is affected by this issue as well.

i wanted to mention this in the main ICS dev thread a while back, but thought I didn't have enough posts. so I PMed Jackpot about it.

this was a couple of weeks ago:

i tried testing udp multicast between my phone and my kf using iperf and it was successful. however, i can't be sure if it was actually testing multicast, or just udp, as it did have me specify an IP address. if i was truly testing multicast, i shouldn't need an IP, right?
[Kindle Fire General] Rouquemoute:
I had sent a BubbleUPnP logfile to bubbleguuum two days ago and that's how I ended up posting here.

My case exactly...

Sorry I'm not that knowledgeable.

What should be the next steps then?
[Kindle Fire General] YaKillaCJ:
Oh yea, now I remember. I did have issues under ICS. My only issue was when I tried turning my KF into a UPnP server (via Twonky). Everything on my network acted real stupid and I had to reboot my NAS.

When I wanted to just play music on my KF (via 2Player), it worked just fine.

My setup is a DNS-320 with nas-tweaks to run Twonky Server 6.
[Kindle Fire General] Rouquemoute:
Is 2Player the only app you tried?
[Kindle Fire General] jdommer:
I fired up the log and a wireshark machine and checked what's going on.

I have the what, but not the why...

It looks like the tablet sends and received multicast data just fine, but once it joins a multicast group, it loses the ability to receive unicast packets.

I see the twonky server on the tablet sending out messages about its existence. I see it receive other twonky devices existence data. Then the tablet appears to try to query directly from the devices to get capabilities. These timeout and it removes the other device from its list.

Meanwhile, on wireshark, the kindle is sending out arp requests like crazy, for these fellow twonky machines, for its default gateway, for everything. The responses are coming back, but the kindle never seems to see them.

So, either it loses the ability to receive unicast packets or it loses the ability to process arp responses. Either seems to be pretty deadly to IP. Had to shut off wireless and turn it back on before normal network behavior restored.

I'm looking at it more, but thought observations might be useful to anyone else jumping in.

jd

Edit:

Found these two lines in the log. Not _sure_ they're the cause, but looks promising. Unfortunately, they don't appear to come from the wpa_supplicant source no matter what it says, so maybe the kernel driver?

E/wpa_supplicant(21290): ERROR - wpa_driver_tista_private_send - error sending Wext private IOCTL to STA driver (ioctl_cmd = 8000305, res = -1, errno = 95)

E/wpa_supplicant(21290): ERROR - Failed to handle rx data filter command!
[Kindle Fire General] theTwiz:
i experience this exact issue when trying to run any upnp app on my kf. in the main ICS thread, the bug tracker currently lists wifi as 'spotty'. some people have to turn wifi off then on again to restore connection, some have an infinite connect-attempt loop, etc. im curious if this might be related. i'll see if i can get anyone experiencing spotty wifi to post wireshark logs, and i'll do the same when i can.

and yes, the ability to process arp responses is absolutely critical to IP. the loss of arp could result in any of the wifi issues i've seen people post about thus far.
[Kindle Fire General] Rouquemoute:
I can confirm your findings.

SSD discovery of the UPnP server seems work fine as I see it replying to the multicast group with its uid and service notifications.

However the KF keeps on sending search request as if it couldn't process the replies.
[Kindle Fire General] jdommer:
The wpa_supplicant error messages are a constant in the log when things quit working, but I cannot find the code that is calling it. I've searched all the files in the wpa_supplicant tree source and cannot find the text of those messages at all.

Probably going to require someone cooler than me to troubleshoot, but I'll keep looking in my "spare time".

jd
[Kindle Fire General] nind:
That is inside the wifi driver source (and there in wpa_supplicant_lib), part of it is also fixed for the linux wifi sources: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg84045.html

The android source is different, but i didn't look at the exact differences between them yet. Are you sure that problem really cause those error message?

Does UPnP work on stock/CM7 ?
[Kindle Fire General] jdommer:
Nope, all I am sure of is that the message occurs in proximity to when the wifi quits working.

Considering what we see is that the kindle seems to quit receiving certain packets, it seems likely that a problem with something that is supposed to apply a filter to received packets could be the cause. But I'll follow the links you gave and see if I can see anything or figure out how to insert more debugging info. :)

But, if anyone knows of anyplace(s) uPnP is definitely working, it would be useful for comparison.

jd
[Kindle Fire General] theTwiz:
stock: i don't know (see below)

CM7: yes

do you mean any roms? for kf, only the cm7 i can say for sure. ill test on my gf's kindle (running pure stock) in a bit and let you know.

EDIT: upnp works on pure stock kf (6.2.2)

if you mean ics on any hardware, then i can say it works on my g2, currently running andromadus v12, but it also ran on virtuous quattro rc3 as well.
[Kindle Fire General] Rouquemoute:
I can confirm it works on CM7.
[Kindle Fire General] jdommer:
Specifically, I meant kernels or roms. Anyone using miui Cm9 that can say if UPnP is working? Or anyone tried with intersectRavens kernel? I'd try myself but I'm leaving on a business trip today and don't want to mess with my beautiful kindle until I return.

The more known good versus known bad will make it easier to zero in on the culprit. :)

jd
[Kindle Fire General] theTwiz:
i'll start downloading various roms/kernals and give it a go when i get home today. so far i've tried the main cm9 (every update since early January), hashcode's cm9 and zone's cm9, but those last two are both based on the main cm9. I do know the main dev build changed kernals a while back, but I don't think they've ever used intersectraven's kernal.
[Kindle Fire General] screwyluie:
I run bubbleupnp on stock. Works great. Just to confirm it does work on the fire
[Kindle Fire General] Rouquemoute:
I just tried the ROM from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1528024

It's said to be based on intersectRaven's latest CM9 kernel.

It doesn't work either...
[Kindle Fire General] theTwiz:
yep, not working on intersectraven's kernal here either.

miui (4.0.3) is a no-go as well. this seems to be an all-encompassing ics issue unless anyone has any other combinations they can think of?

also, there's no way this is related to hardware acceleration, right?
[Kindle Fire General] nind:
No, but we may switch to a new wifi driver and wpa_supplicant v0.8 with a 3.0 kernel, so the problem may not occur there.
[Kindle Fire General] theTwiz:
works for me, thanks for the insight.
[Kindle Fire General] jdommer:
I am finally making progress. The problem is in the area I thought it was. Now to figure out just what it is...

jd
[General Questions and Answers] the lemming:
Hello

I am planning on installing some software which is NOT yet on the Android Market.

Its a map viewing software from Memory Maps co uk. Sadly I can't place a link yet as I'm new to the site.

I've been using this software for years on my PC and now that I have a Samsung Ace, I want to run it on my Smart Phone.

Befre I get stuck in, could somebody please tell me the potential pitfalls of installing apps that are not on the Android Market?

Could somebody also please tell me how I cam back-up my entire phone, operating system included just in case I end up with an expensive paper weight?

I'm hoping to create a clone/mirror image on the entire phone in much the same way that I have for my PC when I use Acronis.

I would very much appreciate any help or advice.

Cheers
[General Questions and Answers] sean is here.:
Pitfalls of installing 3rd party apps:

-potential virus infection

-data loss

-your data/privacy could be compromised

But, that said, if you're careful about what you install...you won't have problems. Basically, the market checks and scans (or is supposed to, but it sometimes fails) for viruses and malware.

If you have root access, you can use ClockWorkMod, Titanium Backup or myBackupPro to back up your phone. But you must have root access to do this. I'm not going to go into HOW you get root or install these, because I don't have your device. There should be loads of tutorials on this, just hit up google. With CWM you can create an image which will capture everything from settings to apps to data. TiBu will let you back up all of your apps and data, as will myBackupPro. CWM > TiBu > mBP, in my opinion, this is their rank in functionality.

Good luck.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vegetaleb:
Now that MWC showed HTC,LG...next phones for spring/summer 2012, we can say that the Xperia S is the best phone out there...why?

-Screen is not monstruous like the 4.7'' of the One X,and it has 720p resolution while One S is still qHD

-12mp! all other android phones are limited to 8mp.

-Dual core cpu 1.5, yes it's not the quad of One X but again who need 4.7''?

So in clear xperia S beats the One S in screen resolution and camera hands down.

It beats the One X in screen ppi and of course dimensions!

SGS3? well like the One X it will be huge with 4.7 or 4.8'' screen and anyway it won't be out before June!

Though WE NEED DEVS so CM9 and MIUI can make the Xperia S perfect :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yardglass:
There are lots of things to love about the Xperia S (I've got one on pre-order) but you should know that the Xperia S also has a fixed battery and a micro SIM.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wing_zero8556:
As yardglass pointed out the Xperia S has a non-removable battery and micro sim. Also the Xperia S does not beat the HTC in screen resolution as they are both 720p :P also it is lighter and thinner though a bit longer and wider. And no before you say im a HTC fanboy i've got the Xperia on pre-order already, just wanted to clarify some things with you
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vegetaleb:
Sorry for battery and microsim.

I was talking about

pixels density

, between 720p 4.3'' and 720p 4.7''

The Xperia S beats the iphone4 but the One X is beaten by the iphone4,so in terms of optimal graphics:

Xperia S > Iphone4/s > One X/Galaxy Nexus > Sensation/ One S > SGS2

:eek:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yardglass:
I believe it has the highest pixel density, yes. I really have no need for more than a dual core phone either. I don't even believe that the OS handles more than that at the moment, and I can't think of any app that would need that processor?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Mr.Krypton:
Xperia P :?

I'm bout to test it I have a confusion with both of them :O
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Audioboxer:
I changed my order over from a Galaxy Nexus to the Xperia S. Nexus is sitting staring at me on my worktop, but it's going back tomorrow in a pre-paid bag.

The camera, faster processor and looks were enough to snap me up. However I do see that Xperia/Sony android development looks nowhere near as active as HTC/Samsung/ect.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Yardglass:
If it makes you feel any better, there's been a couple devs come out and say they're getting this phone (I believe DoomLord is one of them).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Oh, you're on XDA too :P

Good choice. I think that with the Xperia S we'll be seeing a very high amount of developers. It's a very powerful device at a relatively low price, it has excellent cameras and an awesome display.

The biggest problem with the Xperia Arc and the rest of the 2011 family is that it wasn't a very powerful handset at release, it lacked RAM, internal memory and a faster processor. And the unlock tool from the Arc came a few months after the release.

The Xperia S however will be unlockable right away, we'll have a great set of resources to base ourselves on, and it has really good specs. And it's generating tons and tons of buzz around the internet.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Zedd.:
I really did like the 2011 line of SE Xperias.

But I'm a bit apprehensive about the 2012 series because of the few qualms, as I see:

Non-removable battery

Non-expandable storage

Micro-SIM

Last-generation hardware specifications

The support for the phones being from Sony henceforth (whose track record for having a strict lock down policy on their devices is quite well known).

I'll wait and see what Samsung has up their sleeve with the S2 successor and if that's disaapointing, I'll go for the Xperia S (or Ion, if they do plan for an international release).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Sony Mobile, is not Sony. Sony Mobile still is the same set of people it always was, nothing will change. They're very committed to delivering all updates quite fast, you really shouldn't worry about that.

Micro-SIM: It'll be the standard for 2012.

Non-expandable storage: Isn't 32GB already a huge amount? I've always been fine with 8GB on my phone and 16GB on my standalone Walkman.

Non-removable battery can't be a problem either if there is a hard reset key combo. It's not been a problem for the iPhone or Nokia Lumia 800/N9 either.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 4ktvs:
I like this phone, but no LTE for AT&T bands and the CPU are a bit of a let down.

The 720P IPS 4.3in screen seems very nice and I would likey trade my oled+ 480p screen for the screen it has.

P.S I hope all buying like there new phone. :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Zedd.:
It's a relief to hear that Sony isn't helming the mobile development division. I was afraid that there might be lock-downs and restrictions enforced (akin to locked bootloaders, hence, inability to flash custom ROMs) seeing as what they do to their PSP and PS3 product ranges. But I suspect Sony might somehow wiggle in their proprietary standards like they always love to (ATRAC3Plus, MemoryStick, PSVita Memory Card, etcetera).

Furthermore, I sure do hope Micro-SIMs become the standard as I do a travel a lot and I'd hate to cut my SIM cards to size.

And about the non-expandable storage, it isn't about the storage space per se, but it is more related to how I can swap an SD card with the data I need rather than copying it to the phone via a PC (thus making PC a requirement). However, if the storage space happens to be full I'd have to delete some data, and picking what to delete might be a tough choice, especially with no PC nearby to make a backup. I think this might become more evident when everyone tries recording videos for extended time in 1080p on their Xperia S which takes up more space.

I believe non-removable batteries are alright in the short run, but in the long run, there might be the necessity for the use of higher capacity batteries or backup travel batteries. Plus, if the battery decided to fizzle out, I couldn't possibly swap out the battery to fit in a new one without handing it in for service, which I believe is the iPhone user's bane.

Cheers, mate.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Audioboxer:
Only thing that irks me is non-removable battery, but hey, it's a worry not something I actually need. Never had an issue with my iPhone 3 battery, never replaced my HTC Desire battery (only ever pulled it for rebooting).

The ability to fast charge the battery to 80% in 30 mins may or may not have something to do with this, unlikely, but even if not it's a nice feature.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] miann:
only thing that irks me is the usb/hdmi on opposite sides with those crappy plastic covers. if only the S was a bit more like the P we would have powered docks and car mounts... that was my biggest let down... seeing the P design makes me wish they thought the S through a bit more.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vegetaleb:
I am quietly waiting for reviews!!

Screen quality (viewing angles,colors,sunlight...), speaker volume, quality feeling...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zoobzone:
Large battery - check

720p screen - check

Stylish and elegant design - check

made by Sony - check

Yep this is the best Android phone for Spring 2012 imo.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SavCom:
The best review / comparisons I've found are on PhoneArena. I'm being offered the Experia S as an upgrade for my existing contract, but unsure whether to wait for the One X or the Galaxy S3.

But again, as they're all essentially governed by the chipset/software, so does it boil down to which one you like the look of and what goodies they have on board?

Never easy, is it?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] StellMonkey:
Non-removable battery

Non-removable battery is very bad. If the phone stucks, how to shut down?:confused:

Should we wait a long time till to battery reach 0%?:confused::confused::confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
10-second press (or a combo, not sure anymore) will force-reboot the phone, it's hardcoded.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] parkbankrowdy:
There's a resetbutton under the backcover...

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] King Shady:
The Xperia S uses an outdated dual-core processor, much unlike the new S4 dual-core processors. It will be slower than all of the new 2012 high end devices such as the HTC One X, GSIII, and the LG 4X. Also, it's pretty chunky - definitely not as thin as the HTC One X, and I can promise you the GSIII will be thinner than all of these devices. Honestly if you really think that the Xperia S is the best Android phone for 2012, then you are clearly mistaken lol. The HTC One X already beats it screen wise (I don't give two ****s about ppi, because it is unnoticeable), because it uses LCD2 which The Verge said was the best screen on any mobile phone they have ever seen. The Galaxy S III will blow everything away though, just like it blew away the Sensation last year.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Boohoo. You hardly notice the difference between a good dualcore like the one in the Xperia S and a 'really strong' dualcore or a quadcore.

Also, thin devices aren't always nice to hold. I personally prefer a more traditional thickness with a slightly bigger battery and a curved back.

Also, the PPI is really nice, and Sony has always had top-of-the-line displays. Very good contrast and brightness on an LCD.

Also, have you thought about the price too? The Xperia S is currently available in many stores now in The Netherlands for around €450. Do you honestly think there is any phone able to offer this kind of specs for THAT price? All models you listed will be a LOT more expensive.

And you've missed the most important part: software. The software modifications to Android Sony makes are the best out there. Android with the Sony skin is the most usable, powerful and beautiful smartphone OS currently available. By far. And they can update it very, very fast.

I'm sorry, but your arguments are completely invalid.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] awf:
Well playing with benchmark software isn't what I have in mind :D but a smooth user experience with a good GUI :)

So I actually don't care about a quad core since the dual isn't reaching the full potential on Android ;)

I think it's not the best device, but for me personal it is :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] King Shady:
Honestly, I could care less about price, because I'm paying top-dollar anyways - I want the best for my money and I know the GSIII will be the best when it is announced. In addition, let me say - no skin on Android is a good skin - stock ICS is amazing. On Gingerbread, TouchWiz and Sony's skin were both pretty good, but most people believed that TouchWiz was the best GB skin. I'm not saying the Xperia S is a bad phone- because it's not; all I'm saying is that it definitely won't be considered the best Android device. That will be crowned to the GSIII, just like it was crowned to the GSII last year. You'll see.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] parkbankrowdy:
Touchwiz is the crappiest UI I've ever used. And bz the way android isn't supporting quadcores, so why get one? Also the SII was sometimes slower than the Arc.

Quadcore is only good for marketing, along with some rubberlike animations it'll sell good, mainstream. I quad with good software can be powerful and a good energysaver, but with no quadsupport it'll be a battery drainer.

But great, you know how good the SIII will be from the rumours... ;-)

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Well that's your call then. By the way, it's "couldn't care less". If you could care less, that would mean you would care. Because you can't care less if you don't care at all.

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And well. Most people probably believed TouchWiz is the best skin because most people have only tried TouchWiz. I work at one of Europe's biggest phone retailers, and I find that users find TouchWiz confusing and inconsistent at first. Not much, just slightly. It's not the best skin there is.

But yeah, chances are the Galaxy S3 will be a hardware monster, but with the probably very high price and TouchWiz it's not an interesting device for a lot of people.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bustervic:
I would think the HTC One S or X might get the top nod. I think the best device has to excel at many categories but not rule them outright. The iphone is proof of this.

I still think Quad Core is really overkill at least for another yr, and until display and battery tech can overcome the powerdraw.

Skins are not great overall but if you are more inclined to keep the stock skin because of the included elements then that is a big win.

Camera tech needs to be effective and usable, with good quality.

The XS is in the running for sure, as long as the usability is there, and Sony supports the switch to ICS.

-Quick and top quality camera

-Fast processing speeds

-Nice looking and natural skin with well designed widgets

-Decent battery life and quick charge tech

-Asthetically pleasing hardware/design

I'd pretty much say at this point it is a dead heat between the One S and Xperia S
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] floepie:
Stock skin even on ICS is dull. No T9? Check. Wasted space? Check. Fisher Price look and feel? Check. I prefer a light and lean skin that provides more info with a smarter "business" look. Sense is getting there, but a bit heavy. Sony's is quite good and slick. But, yeah I'd prefer if Google's base layer were more slick.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 4ktvs:
I don't think it will be the best 2012 phone, but to say it sucks is a bit stupid. Sony let me down a bit with this phone, but I think next year they will get it right. The sad part is the s3 CPU and no AT&T LTE bands.( No I don't want it to be sold by them with a big AT&T sign on it.)

I hope the S3 does not=4s or I will yell noooooooooooooooooooooo like in the movies.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Cholek3:
Sometimes I got a feeling, that this phones comparision is like **** measurement contest. The bigger the better.