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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] capite:
Uhh terrible numbers

Using SAUROM (latest), which includes dagkernel 0.2. Getting almost the same numbers no matter what method I use:

Stock charger & Cord = 5094 at most

Stock charger + shorted extension cord (for the hell of it) + stock cord = 5028

non-stock charger & stock cord = 5088

non-stock charger and non-stock cord = 5029

non-stock charger + shorted extension cord + stock cord = 5026

Charging methods (using techniques above) come out as "6" and "AC Power".

I tried both at 67% charge and 44% charge. I'm discharging now to see if it gets better. But still, this is pretty lame.

EDIT: problem turns out to be that I wasn't using the 'real' stock cable, I think I was using the one for my Skyrocket or one of the two cables I had was bad.

Got 10000-ish values from (stock charger or Nook Color charger) + (better stock cable or Blackberry cable).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] keplenk:
I got Saurom with the latest Dag OC kernel.

Samsung OEM charger + OEM cable = 10056

Touchpad OEM charger + OEM samsung cable = 10056

iPhone charger + OEM samsung cable = 5046

I don't think its the kernel.

******

Question:

When I did

cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_source

Touchpad = 2

Samsung OEM = 2

Iphone charger = 6

USB PC = 1

What does 6 mean?

EDIT: Also, where can I buy cheap charger cables? I got 3 Touchpad Chargers and I need to 2 more cables for it. I use the touchpad cables differently so .. I need new cables. Can I find already "shorted" cables anywhere in Ebay or amazon? Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sbddude:
I am on the rooted stock rom and I also get 6 x whith the iphone charger
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] capite:
You are right. I tried my other stock Samsung charging cable and got the same values as you (10056-ish). Went back to original cable and original problem (5000-ish).

The reason I have two cables is I have a Skyrocket also -- they seem identical and maybe they are not? Maybe I was using the Skyrocket cable, or maybe one of them was just bad.

---------- Post added at 05:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:15 PM ----------

I saw this in another thread (or maybe even this one!):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YX4HDU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A35D5ON3677H9N
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] khaytsus:
ipoon chargers don't have the middle pins shorted out, therefore...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] johnus:
Any clue what a reported number of 6 might mean?

EDIT: Oops, I didn't see that other people are getting the 6 as well. Guess I'm tired.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sbddude:
I also get 6 on apple chargers when using an unmodified cable. Using a modified cable, I can get 2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] pj_rage:
Not sure what the 6 is guys. I'll try to look into it. I think maybe the apple chargers use some resistance between the data lines to determine charge rate? Perhaps the phone is detecting this although I don't know what the it does with the info?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] johnus:
I'm getting the 6 on a Belkin 2.1A auto charger with a USB extension cable I modified. Gets 885mA with it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] BigBison420:
I am running SauROM and Da_G OC Kernel ---- here are my results.

OEM-Showing up as "2" getting 10039

Xuma - Output 1500mah: Shows up as "6" getting 5063
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
So essentially trying to trigger the "charging" mechanism within the Note, so that it draws more amps, which otherwise would not be supplied if it were connected to a "data" source. Correct?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] fellstar:
awesome info. I thought about doing this myself, but then just decided paying 5 bucks for the Samsung car charger on Amazon was a better use of my resources. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clockcycle:
Does #*#*4636#*#* "Battery Info" show you anything different depending on what charging source you're using, perhaps to find what the 6, and 4 returns are?

Cheap imitation iphone charger won't let me touch/navigate while it's plugged in, although it does charge, assuming it's a grounding issue. (Tested a real apple iphone charger, it doesn't have the touch issue)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] i_max2k2:
I have a dockboss which has 3.5mm audio male jack and micro usb cable for charging, which join together to form a female iphone dock which can then connect to any iphone dock, which I have in my car, now if I run Navigon and Poweramp, it slowly discharges, which is ofcourse I'm assuming happening because of the data pins not short. I was wondering if there was an easy to way short the pins right at the jack, by maybe using a thin copper plate or something if the pins are adjacent, Any thoughts on this by the OP? Since its still within 30days I can return that dockboss cable which is $30, since its really not serving the purpose for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] PhantomWraith:
Just for FYI the Samsung charging Dock puts out 8393
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bwhitfield24:
Big thanks for you and your enlightening thread!

Some observations of my own:

If USB port, then with Samsung cable:

Samsung desk dock: 8920

AT&T car charger (http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...B+Port+-+Universal+Micro+USB&q_sku=sku3730245) coiled cord: 8444

AT&T car charger USB port: 9969

Motorola wall charger (from old Bluetooth headset): 6205

HTC Tilt 2 wall charger (

with

USB extension cable): 7239

HTC Tilt 2 wall charger (

without

USB extension cable): 9960

HTC Vivid wall charger (

with

USB extension cable): 7029

HTC Vivid wall charger (

without

USB extension cable): 9966

Belkin Mini Surge Protector (http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=400738) (

with

USB extension cable): 4689

Belkin Mini Surge Protector (

without

USB extension cable): 4921

Genuine Apple iPad charger (

with

USB extension cable): 4770

Genuine Apple iPad charger (

without

USB extension cable): 4961

With HTC Vivid USB cable:

HTC Tilt 2 wall charger (

with

USB extension cable): 6594

HTC Tilt 2 wall charger (

without

USB extension cable): 9965

HTC Vivid wall charger (

with

USB extension cable): 6892

HTC Vivid wall charger (

without

USB extension cable): 9942

Genuine Apple iPad charger (

with

USB extension cable): 4640

Genuine Apple iPad charger (

without

USB extension cable): 4920

My Samsung wall charger is at work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] G8351427:
I put together a Tasker script to display the charger current based on pj_rage's info. Must have Tasker (obviously) and root (also obvious).

I'd post the profile but I am apparently not smart enough, so here are the steps, instead.

Profile (A/C power)

Power - Source = A/C

Task = wait 1 second

Run Shell = cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc > /mnt/sdcard/chargecurrent.txt

Read Line = File chargecurrent.txt Line 1 to Var %CHCURRENT

Flash Charger current draw: %CHCURRENT

This pops up a toast every time a charger is connected that shows its output. One thing I have noticed... this value doesn't seem indicate the current that a given charger supplies, but what the phone decides to draw. It is showing less than 10000 from chargers that I have measured as supplying an amp to other devices, using a cable that has the data pins connected.

I am still not sure how the Note decides what to draw.

---------- Post added at 10:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:05 PM ----------

Aaaaand... I just found a doc that explains that there should be a 200ohm resistor in between D+ and D-.

I am gonna see about making an adapter to test if that is what it takes to make the Note draw an amp.

---------- Post added at 10:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:15 PM ----------

I just measured the included wall charger, and found a 0.6 ohm resistance across the D+ and D- pins.

I am not super experienced with electronics... is is safe to assume I can replicate this with a 0.6 ohm resistor?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] G8351427:
Welp! I did some testing using some various resistor values and basically what I found was that the phone would not draw more than about 700mA regardless of the resistor value I used. This is marginally better than shorting the DATA+ and - together, which would max out at 465mA. I tested using 100, 150, and 200 ohm values.

What I did find that worked was that doohickey that capite posted earlier in this thread. I measured its resistance to be identical to what the stock wall plug is. Anyway, this thing is the ticket; the charger current routine I setup says the phone draws as much as 9900:

I ordered it up on Friday and it arrived Monday. So, there is no point in modifying chargers or trying to figure out if one is wired for apple or Android anymore. Get this thing and be done with it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tyler79durdan:
there is a thread in the hardware hacking forum about Samsung charger hack... Explained in detail there. Sorry can link from here... This is a well known modification and I would never use it on my new phone... My 700 dollar device came with a charger so I use that one only... Why risk it when it's well known that most aftermarket chargers don't have the stop charge circuitry that our charger has... Ruin your phone if you want... Just saying, and great write up OP...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] G8351427:
It's hard to verify your claim without a link, and I don't know what hardware hacking forum you are referring to. As far as a "well known" hack goes, I can only assume that you mean connecting the data pins to each other... which is how phones identify a dedicated charging port. This tells the phone it can draw the max of 1amp.

Also, there is no risk with overcharging on an aftermarket charger. It is the phone that controls the charge rate, not the charger. The only possible risk that I could see is if the charger was out of spec on voltage (5v). Using a charger that is labeled more than 1000mA is acceptable, as that spec only refers to what the charger is capable of supplying; the device connected can then draw up to that amount.

The whole point here, is that there is a documented charging specification, which all manufacturers are supposed to adhere to if they want to use USB. While Samsung is technically following the specs, they are doing something a little bit different than other manufacturers when it comes to the method they use to identify an OEM charger. I don't know what it is or how they do it, but that Saitechi adapter tricks the phone into thinking it is connected to an OEM charger so it will draw up to the max of 1amp.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tyler79durdan:
Search XDa for Samsung galaxy phone charger mod...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ryfiphone:
My HP Touchpad charger charges my note way faster than most.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] G8351427:
This is what I found:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1384253

It discusses connecting the data pins together. This is exactly how dedicated charging ports are supposed to be wired to identify themselves to a device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] BigBison420:
i would like to see a screen shot of your phone while charging using the described method by PJ_RAGE. To see if it TRULY is charging faster...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JDrew:
Thanks for the info!! :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
same with my T989 and note. the 2A touchpad charger is faster. i didnt check to see if the pins are shorted at the AC end, will do it tonight.

EDIT: indeed they are shorted at the power plug end.

on a side note i Have the Kensington car charger and the middle 2 pins are indeed shorted, its rated at 1A

part #M01075
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wodin777:
IEEE USB Charging Standard

From Wikipedia:

I cant post links, but search for "Universal Serial Bus"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kirtandoshi:
Secret Setting on Battery Charging Control found.

hi guys,

I have a rooted Galaxy note N7000 and i found out something interesting. If someboday can shed more light on this, it might help a lot of people..so here's the deal.

I downloaded an app called "Quick Shortcut maker" from the play store. as i was setting up my shortcuts on my home screen, i noticed an entry there called "Phone Util" and underneath it "Battery charging control". I put the shortcut on my homescreen and clicked on it and i was presented with just 2 buttons "ON" and "OFF".. the default setting was ON. so i am wondering what would happen if we disabled battery charging control? Would the note charge faster with higher ampere rated chargers? i don't know as i didn't have the guts to try and find out in case it damaged my battery in any way...

If somebody has access to a tester Galaxy note, maybe they can try and help. To get to this shortcut mentioned above :

Download Quickshortcutmaker from play store and install

Long press on any empty area of the home screen

press "shortcuts"

choose "Activities"

in the filter field, type in "Phone util" and wait until the app finds the entries

choose 2nd option "Battery charging control"

choose "try"

you will then get the options ON and OFF

regards,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Maybe that's to keep it from overcharging?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kirtandoshi:
Dakleenupman,

Well I don't know what its for that's why i am asking.. :D...From your comment i cannot make out whether you are posting a rhetoric question or that you know for sure that , that setting is to keep it from overcharging and are just being sarcastic with me cos im such a dumbo... lol.....

If somebody actually knows what its exactly for then i can lay my troubled mind to rest..cos i searched a lot on google and in XDA and android forums, but nobody seems to even mention this setting leave alone say anything about what it does. :(

regards,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
I dunno either. Just giving possibilities... :-) I'm. A dumba$$ too!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kirtandoshi:
Hmmm... :)...so logically thinking, why would anyone put an on-off switch for overcharging protection? if all that the "Battery Charging Control" does is protect the phone from overcharging, why would there be a setting to turn it off...who would want to do that anyway? :)...

Shooting in the dark here, i would say its to control in some way the amount of charging current drawn by the phone..i think i might test it out by discharging the phone to exactly 10% power, then recharge it back to about 80% leaving the control setting ON and record the time it takes. Then i will again discharge it back to 10% and this time recharge it to 80% with the control setting OFF... I guess that should prevent anything bad happenning to my phone battery or phone. :)..lets see how it goes..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Sounds like a plan to me. I agree about why anyone would want to remove the safety net but as all of us know on here, tampering seems to be the thing to do!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] i_max2k2:
I had asked this before but if the OP or anyone else can shed light, cant we just the pins on the micro usb end which connects to the phone, to achieve this result, wont that work ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] testacount:
Hi to all of you I'm hope thatat I'm in the right forum. I'm a new owner of a note and hawe one question? How long it take to full charge the note with power on. My note neads about 6 hours is this normal?

Im on latest stock rom and charging with the included travel charger.

Thanks for you're answers.

Sent from my GT-N7000
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] the2rrell:
Mine is more like 3 hours to full charge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] testacount:
Thanks, but why my note neads 6 hours. Are zou charging the note on or off?

Sent from my GT-N7000
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] alexige:
You have the international note right? With the center menu button? Head over to the GT-N7000 Note forum. We have different hardware than you, they can help you better over there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
I charged mine in 6 hrs from 3% to full. On all the time and light usage. The battery chage control is in the battery. Turning it off would be arming a small bomb in your phone. I wouldnt mess with litium batteries without proper protection. The Note battery is massive.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] techntrek:
You can't disable the charge control circuitry inside the battery. All Lion batteries have hard circuitry to prevent overcharge or deep discharge. The charge control mentioned above must be a change to the charge algorithm in the software on the phone itself.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] delawaredrew:
My Touchpad charger does charge the Note normally, I actually haven't even unpacked the Samsung charger yet.

It is nice to know that the several older micro usb chargers I have around from BT headsets and old phones could be modded to charge Notes. My GF is horrible about charging her devices and needs chargers near all her usual spots 'cause her phone and tablet are always near death. Guess I have a new project now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Jrockttu:
Did anybody ever figure out what the type 6 means?

I have a Skyrocket and we share the same issue. Type 6 chargers create a wakelock on the Skyrocket that prevents deep sleep and causes poor battery life.

I've tried this with several different chargers and, without fail, those identified as type 6 create a wakelock, while others do not. I've tried this on Samsung based ROMs and AOSP based ROMs. I also experienced it on Gingerbread, and now on ICS, with stock, updated kernels and radios.

I've tried the same chargers on my wife's AT&T Galaxy S2 (I717) and her phone sees my type 6 chargers as type 2, and no wakelock is generated.

To follow my progress on this, see the thread in my signature.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] paparaji:
Thanks a lot!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] paparaji:
I just tested the cable from amazon for my skyrocket SII

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GF8TIK/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i01

This cable returns result 1

1= USB Normal Charge. There is 5VDC on pins 1&4 and data current is detected on 2&3

I think this means it is not shorted and not creating a wavelock. correct me if i m wrong. thanks!

I ran another test_______

Testing with only CPU Spy:

1) Plug your phone into the charger and turn the screen off. Leave it charging for about 30 seconds. (Don't do this with a fully charged phone, as I don't know how that affects the testing)

2) With the screen still off, unplug the phone from the charger.

3) Open CPU Spy, hit the menu button, and "Reset Timers". Turn the screen off.

4) Let the phone sit idle for a few minutes with the screen off.

5) Turn the phone back on and refresh the timers in CPU Spy (menu button again).

If Deep Sleep doesn’t appear in the list of CPU states, your phone is experiencing a wakelock brought on by the charger. It’s probably spent the majority of time at 192mhz or 384mhz.

To further confirm this, leave your phone unplugged, restart it, leave the screen off for a few minutes, and then check CPU spy again. You should now see it going into Deep Sleep.

Result shows my phone is not experiencing a wakelock. Deep sleep was on but time in state is 1026 mhz. I am little confused now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Korrupt1:
Wow, thanks so much for this info! I've been struggling with power in my car and making sacrifices with my power consumption.I'm definitely going to try this mod with one of my chargers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] drvasile:
On my note GT-N7000 the batt_current_adc shows 2500 with genuine charger and 1100 when connected to USB. But the batt_current_now shows 1000 with charger and 450 with USB. Are thees values mA (batt_current_now)? Then what is batt_current_adc? The Galaxy Tab 2A charger shows 2000 and 1000.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Jrockttu:
This thread has been awesome for us Skyrocket users. We experience the same charger wakelock issue as you. I took the information in this thread and created a little app for the Skyrocket that checks the charge type and current.

This *should* work on the Note too. Feel free to give it a try and see if it works. It can help you check several chargers without having to set up your own Tasker profile or enter anything in a terminal.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1801608
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borgib:
It works good for me. I'm running CM10.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] :
you rule! works great with cm9
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rhacy:
Many thanks! Your Skyrocket Charger Test App works great here too... on the Note SGH-I717 with SAUROM GB RC7.1 by DAGr8.

Cheers!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Paul in Maryland:
Puregear charge-only cable

I've just ordered two PureGear Micro-USB charge-only cables. Each costs $6 shipped on U.S. EBay (or $5 if this is the same one) and $6 shipped on U.S. Amazon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mo2002:
i bought this on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GZI0P6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

sometimes i get 9500 when i charge and other times i get 4900. any reason why this would happen? I am sometimes charging from an extension cord or directly to the wall
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Tx Redneck:
Mince does that w/every charger I own, not sure why though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mo2002:
Yea it gets annoying especially since my charger port is malfunctioning
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thei:
This information is also available from Settings -> Battery (it should show "17% - Charging (USB)" which means it's limiting to a USB rate (~500mAh)for example, or Charging (AC) which means it has the shorted pins and will try to charge at max. charging rate.

Also for what it's worth, I've bought a stack of cheap car chargers on eBay, and some work fine (support max. charging rate just fine) and others nearly do but not quite, and some get so hot you can smell them burning... but they also cost $1 each.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JohnnyQ1964:
FYI (I have not read the full thread)

Blackberry charger kit works great... I use it to charge my Note, Nexus 10, and Motorola RAZR HD...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Jrockttu:
Sorry for thread necromancy, but if anybody still experiences this charger wakelock issue, you may find my app useful. I've had it posted to the Galaxy S II Skyrocket forum for a while (and I think I posted it here too) but I just released it to the app store to make it easier to install, especially after flashing a ROM.

Skyrocket Charger Test: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jellisapps.srchargertest
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] NoteFortheWin:
OK. The title says it...

I've become a huge fan of having an extended battery pack on my Note. The battery lasts almost all day with constant use. It's awesome.

My only problem is that I hate to roam around with a $700 phone that has NO case. I even used a razor blade and cut up a silicone case to "create" a bumper to protect the edges. However this hack isn't ideal.

I'm using the Hyperion Extended 5000 mah battery and I'm hoping to find a suitable case or bumper that will work with it. Has anyone tried using the Hyperion or another extended battery with a bumper on the market? Has it worked?

I've read in many other threads that people are looking for the same thing... However no one's made a thread about it.

Please post if you've found one or are also looking for one!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] DPMAce:
Mine should be here in 3 days. Also would like a good case for it. If not, I'll buy a sleeve for it
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] rgarjr:
How u liking that massive battery? Feel like getting one since they are under 20 bucks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] NoteFortheWin:
I really like it. The size would probably bother most people, but I'm 6'5 and it doesn't bother me at all. Just wish I could find a quality case for it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] DPMAce:
I'm sure Hyperion will make a case for the extended battery like they always do. But they're always ugly imo. No case is as pretty as my zenus capsule