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[HTC One S] yozgatg:
what's with all these jumbophones? 4.3 is really the max for me, 4 would be ideal

The Desire Z is gonna be my last HTC I guess. They really need to come up with a new design language. The One X looks horrible, it's oversized, though the specs are near ideal at this point. The One S is the looks OK but has a Pentile screen (pentile = gtfo). The One V actually looks the best out of the bunch, but the specs are crap.

I think i'm gonna go with the Xperia P for this round, it's got about the same performance as the galaxy s2 (mali400mp gpu), great design, screen and camera.

Also what's up with all this memory babble? I have an 8GB card on my DZ and it's still not full. 16GB will be more than enough for most people, and seriously if you fill up 32GB, you have issues (you don't need to install ALL the games or put ALL your music on the phone).
[HTC One S] slapshot30:
Lol someone has little hands :P. The galaxy note works perfect for me. And you can't say much about storage because different people have different needs. Why not put all your music on your phone? What's wrong with that? The iPhone boasts about being a phone and having good music playing abilities. Why shouldn't we use android as our portable music source too?
[HTC One S] PeartFan40:
+1 on that. The other poster says anybidy who fills 16gb has issues? I've got a 16gb sd card filled with custom roms and back ups.

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[HTC One S] sayeed91:
Either one x or s3 ill be getting. Whatcha think?
[HTC One S] Snakecharmed:
The One X/S is HTC's vision of the iPhone 5 running ICS.
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
Everyone needs to get off the quad-core bandwagon. Yes, QUAD sounds nice but when you do a performance test of the Tegra 3 vs. Snapdragon S4, the S4 blows the Tegra 3 away when it comes to overall performance. I've never been amazed with Nvidia's Tegra series. Nvidia has always been the first to go dual-core or quad-core but they always lacked the gpu processing power. The ulp geforce in the Tegra 3 is embarrassing. Quad-core with a gpu that's not even faster than powerve sgx 543? NO THANKS. You're going to get mad bottlenecking with the Tegra 3. Until Nvidia uses the next generation architecture for their gpus, it won't outperform qualcomm, samsung or omap.

The S4 maybe dual-core but it's a 23nm processor (Tegra 3 is a 40nm) AND it has the new Adeno 225, which is on par with powervr sgx543mp2.
[HTC One S] Drzfr3shboialex:
My next phone might be the HTC One S. Ill see if my cousin can hook it up, or a friends upgrade. These phones are awesome only thing I would like is for the one x to be on tmobile or the HTC one s to have a 720p screen and micro sd

sent from my Virtuous Unity :D
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
The reason why HTC axed the microSD slot, removable battery and microsim is the same reason why Apple did it. They want to optimize the device space. Motorola even did this with the Razr. There isn't anyway to make the device slimmer without having to remove these features.

With the HTC One X running battery efficient processors, a larger battery due to efficient hardware space, and cloud space...there isn't any need for all these features that people are complaining about.

Compare One X with all of HTC's previous devices. None of their devices are close to being this thin and have the battery capacity of 1800mAh. HECK, none have a 1800mAh battery with their larger size.

Expect many manufacturers from now on to go this route.

If HTC included all these features with the current specs BUT the phone was the thickness of the Thunderbolt or Evo 4G, everyone would be ****ting their pants.
[HTC One S] Dark lord me:
I am alright with the one X not having it because it has 32 gigs and 25 dropbox. Now the One V with the 4 gigs... that's a lil more unforgivable
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
The One V is a low tier device. This isn't aimed towards consumers like XDA users but the mass consumers. This device will probably be marketed at $100 under contract so this will appeal to people who aren't teck savvy but want at least a smartphone that can do daily tasks.
[HTC One S] WhiteKnight210:
Cant wait!
[HTC One S] mike21pr:
Come to think of it... wasnt the Nexus One HTC's true pioneer "One" device before it became its own brand?

in other news, I still dont trust Qualcomm since their CPU's always look good on paper but fall flat in comparison in real world use, so needless to say I was bummed that the AT&T one X is using the latest Qualcomm S4 instead of the tegra 3. Now S4 might be something to be reckoned with on paper but I still have a bitter taste in my mouth and still dont trust them. I think im gonna import an international One X since my dream device is a HTC powerhouse flagship with anything other than a Snapdragon
[HTC One S] HTC One:
Battery 1800 maH?

Im worried about the battery life, will 1800 really be enough?
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
But the Nvidia Tegra series has performed in real world use? :rolleyes:
[HTC One S] mike21pr:
Ever heard of a Transformer Prime? Speed and GFX performance in unbelievable. If thats any indication of whats in store (specially in the GPU dept) bring it on
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
I will give you speed but definitely not their gpu. The gpu performance of the tegra 3 is terrible when it's compared to the latest gpus available in current mobile devices. The ulp geforce in the tegra 3 isn't even better than the powervr sgx543. The adreno 225 STOMPS on the tegra 3 gpu.
[HTC One S] King Shady:
The Exynos 5250 will blow everything out of the water... just like last year's Exynos did. The Galaxy S II took a **** on the Sensation lol.
[HTC One S] mike21pr:
well, according to this. the adreno 225 gpu is good, but isnt the best either, it got beat by the mali 400 in current exynos chips and got stomped by the A5 in an offscreen benchmark (last one in the link) anyway. my point is that, although S4 is prolly an exellent chip, i think i rather keep a distance till this one really proves me wrong in reviews and real use vs the rest

http://www.hindustantimes.com/techn...enchmark-results-are-out/Article1-815158.aspx
[HTC One S] sgt. slaughter:
yeah part of that article you linked was from anandtech. Their full review can be found here.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3

btw S4 includes other advances over the terga like LTE modem built in the die of the chip so you have the power saving and performance benefit there as well evidently. In reality there were only like 1 or 2 tests the Terga3 beat the S4 in, in their testing.

28nm wins out here imho.
[HTC One S] aNYthing24:
The A15 Exynos won't be out till mid-2013. Krait will reign king this year.
[HTC One S] juicytuna:
You might want to check this preview of the One X and One S:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one

The One X has the fastest GPU (Tegra 3 AP33) found in any Android device. Only SGX 543mp2 found in the 4s is faster.
[HTC One S] Cor-master:
That's what I'm saying. I was in the market for a tablet and I was wanting to make sure I got one that would run all my 3D intensive games so I've been reading up on gpus. I always thought tegra 2 was the best but after I read into it more i found out its actually pretty underwhelming. I don't know much about tegra 3 but I saw a benchmark on the new snapdragon that's in this phone and it blew everything out of the water. And honestly who needs a quad yet anyway? I'm still rocking a single core hummingbird soc and my friend has a bionic with a dual core and a gig of ram and it's ridiculously fast. I think quads are way too soon and most likely no one will be able to tell the difference.
[HTC One S] kronik420:
So from what I'm reading your saying that the US is only getting the dual core htc one. What about sprint they said over 144 carriers would be getting the phone. Sprint has to get this phone. Even though I'm not happy with the quad core performace its going to be way better then my HTC evo. please tell me this is a joke that only AT&T is getting this phone
[HTC One S] Spartoi:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5467/samsung-exynos-5250-begins-sampling-mass-production-in-q2-2012

Exynos > Krait > Tegra 3

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[HTC One S] sgt. slaughter:
Maybe but that's yet to be seen. The Samsung chips are only going to be 32nm while the Qualcomm S4 is done down to 28nm...
[HTC One S] sgt. slaughter:
ATT has exclusivity on it in the US is what they said initially...

And by 144 carriers I assume they mean across all HTC One devices not each device.
[HTC One S] slapshot30:
Interesting... that'll make for a pretty damn good dev base then. Something similar to the TP2/Tilt2. I swear that phone came out on every carrier known to man, and it made the development awesome.
[HTC One S] Cor-master:
Sprint will probably get an evo X 4G varient I imagine. Verizon will get a droid incredible thunderbolt 3 X
[HTC One S] Drzfr3shboialex:
Hopefully the HTC One X comes to tmobile. The One S looks like a beefed up Mytouch 4G. The design is so similar(front view).

sent from my Virtuous Unity :D
[HTC One S] aNYthing24:
If we see the Exynos 5250 in the GS3 this year, it'll be a surprise. We're more like to see the quad-core A9 version that's built on the 32nm process.
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
You don't know what you're talking about. Look @ the actual source.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/3

Adreno 225 beats the Mali 400.
[HTC One S] aNYthing24:
The Adreno 225 isn't Qualcomm's best GPU for this year anyway. Wait till the Adreno 3xx hits.
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
Do you read the articles? The article was very nice but I don't see it saying or even the graphs showing that the ulp geforce is the fastest gpu on any Android device. According to those graphs, the Tegra 3 only beat it in ONE test.

Read before posting please. I actually read anandtech and I can tell you that they know the ulp geforce isn't a performance gpu like their competitors. It won't be until the Wayne series releases.

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YUP and that's the scary part. I've never been a fan of Qualcomm before this since their gpu was always lacking but their up their now w/ PowerVR.
[HTC One S] sgt. slaughter:
Very true but that one isn't in but the APQ8064 quad core S4 chipset which is tablet geared as doesn't have the baseband stuff in it the MDM/MDM do. It's not in any of the MSM chipsets yet...

Maybe by end of year well see some rumbelings of an MSM8064 chip....
[HTC One S] HTC One:
In the end, it all depends on the user, hacker, gamer etc..
[HTC One S] sooyong94:
Do you even realize that the SGS2 is running on Gingerbread whereas the Qualcomm platform actually runs on ICS 4.0.3? Wait until ICS hits SGS2 and the true power of the Mali will be seen.
[HTC One S] Michael088:
I'm just gonna go all the way and say it's a letdown altogether. No quad-core (inb4 "IS IT REALLY NECESSARY?! No, but in the future it might be), no MicroSD support, no user-removable battery, Sense 4.0 is terrible and completely ruins ICS.
[HTC One S] sgt. slaughter:
What quadcore would u want that's out now?....bc the terga gets beat by the dualcore they use in it....I agree with the battery n microsd though. But camera stuff is big change as are shell finishes and such.
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
This will not matter, the Adreno 225 is still gonna outperform the Mali-400 MP.

Yes, an OS can optimize cpu/gpu performance but it doesn't make up for the lack of gpu hardware in general.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5072/nvidias-tegra-3-launched-architecture-revealed/2

The Adreno 225 is already spec'd 78% faster than the Mali-400MP4. DO YOUR REALLY think that ICS is gonna boost the gpu performance that high?

I've had a SGS2 running a custom rom of ICS and I can tell you the performance isn't that drastic like what you're stating, not even close.

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The fact that so many people automatically consider quad-core better than dual-core is a joke. The technology behind Qualcomm's S4 chip is why it outperforms the quad-core Tegra 3.
[HTC One S] Product F(RED):
Wtf, you totally copied my post from the first page.
[HTC One S] aNYthing24:
They do have MSM chips with the Adreno 3xx - the MSM8930 and the MSM8974. They are just slated for 2013. But yeah, you're right for this year.
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
LMAOOOOO

10charlimit
[HTC One S] slapshot30:
The reason I put quad core in the OP is not because of the basic "OMGZ QUAD CORE MEANS FOUR AND THAT'S TWO MORE THAN DUAL CORE YESSSS". My understanding was that along with quad core, was going to come better power management and more battery life. Utterly pissed there's no battery door too. If the processor doesn't manage battery life well then you're just sh*t out of luck. We can only hope and speculate at this point.
[HTC One S] aNYthing24:
28nm is going to do wonders for battery life, and so will the new architecture. Not going to lie -- I wish there were bigger batteries -- but it should be fine.
[HTC One S] Product F(RED):
He's a bot/spammer. Reported him.
[HTC One S] Spartoi:
The 5250 will be more powerful so I think Samsung would use that for their flagship device.

Mali-T604 is gonna be 4x more powerful than the Mali-400 btw.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5250...tion_in_q2_tablets_get_it_first-news-3728.php
[HTC One S] Luger718:
Will the international One X (Tegra 3) work on tmobile?

same goes for the AT&T version? will they work?
[HTC One S] Spl4tt:
if tmobile uses hsdpa, and not that cdma+lte techonolgy, yes

i dont know much about you guys in the US

well, for me: FINALLY.

the One X is why i waited so long

after over two years with my HD2, there is finally a real successor.

the One X is ALMOST perfect.

the only thing wich i will hate is that i cant remove the battery.. i need that, but i'll try to get used to.. :/

but else.. goddamn amazing..
[HTC One S] jekyoo_style:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/qualcomm-unleashes-snapdragon-s4-pro

LOL that sucks. They'll probably be a HTC One X/S Pro in the future.

EDIT - NVM, the S4 Pro is for the tablet/netbooks.
[HTC One S] Luger718:
wow that really sucks lol why not just make the 8960 with the adreno 320 default and skip the 225 -_-

looks like im just gonna wait on exynos and GS3
[HTC One S] aaa:
One X has super hardware specs, 4.7" size is also perfect for me, but...

One X problems:

1. Plastic body with such starting price (€599)??!! Reduce the price and it is acceptable :)

2. No micro SD slot but with 32GB internal memory...this is still acceptable for me...

3. Inexchangeable battery......I dunno if I want to have this...I have to think over this one if One X has good battery stamina :)

4. Can it be bought without the useless Beats ear/headphones to reduce the price?

5. No IPS or AMOLED screen?!....again price will speak for this...

6. How will Tegra 3 compared to new proc series from Exynos, Qualcomm and Texas Instrument?

I am now having doubt if I am gonna buy One X...I need a new phone to replace my current old Desire this year latest in August...but ...it seems I am looking forward to SGS III instead of One X
[HTC One S] aloy99:
If the One S is running MSM8960 I'll b getting it for sure xD
[HTC One S] Spl4tt:
srsly.

the Galaxy SII was nice, and the Galaxy SIII will be surely better than anything we now till now

but.. as the GSII the GSIII will be light, plastic, and paper like

when i hold my phone, i want it to be a phone, not paper

i just HATED the feeling of the GSII, and the GSIII will be no exception.

fk it, i just ordered my One X.
[HTC One S] Cor-master:
I'm debating this phone but 2 things I'm unsure about : does it have 16 or 32 gigs of storage? Because if it only has 16, that's a dealbreaker. Also debating battery life, just seems like you can't have enough, I like having removable batteries because like now on my captivate, I have an external charger and 2 extra charged batteries all the time so I never have to worry. And I'm a heavy user and I already wore out my original battery from charging it too much
[HTC One S] Sarsippius:
I like the look of the One S to finally upgrade my Desire. No microsd or removable battery doesn't bother me, haven't found 16GB limiting on my Galaxy Tab which will remain my video player and I never remove the battery in my Desire anyway.

Only thing I'm not sure about is the display, don't like the over saturated samoled, would much prefer the slcd in the One X.
[HTC One S] sgt. slaughter:
28nm > 40nm btw so battery life should be same if nto better than the terga3 too...
[HTC One S] tt0204:
Price is the only problem.
[HTC One S] sgt. slaughter:
yeah i remember reading speculation about those but never saw them on the actual roadmap from qualcomm. only from the 3rd party sites claiming things in speculation. Will be nice to hear officially from qualcomm on that though not likely till later this year since its stuff for the following year anyway...

but like another poster said before they evidently just came out with an announcement stating they will have an MSM8960PRO which includes the Adreno 320 now and stated to be out in market 2nd half this year!...

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/qualcomm-unleashes-snapdragon-s4-pro

now they do state "...Snapdragon S4 and S4 Pro are designed to enable tablets and notebook devices to..." leading one to believe that its geared toward only tablets BUT if thats the case then the Senior VP wouldn't of said S4 in general as we all know that chipset is in smartphones as well...

In the release they did state a few times about Windows 8 compatibility and that they were excited about that platform so maybe it will just be used in one of those first??...
[HTC One S] freakboy13:
Ever hear of LG and the g2x ?

Try and tell past g2x owners of how awesome the Tegra series are.

I would be very worried about battery life, "ohdont worry an update will fix that issue..."

Man I am so tired of companies popping out phones with out proper benchmarking.

I guessed we will see if nvidia has upped the auntie and actually built a chip that won't be a power white.

G2x was an awesome phone, don't get me wrong, gaming and graphics processing were great....but gdmt, so many freaking issues, and no support.

More than likely I will not be buying this phone.

And another thing, all youse guys out there comparing the no ad to iPhone.... I don't want a freaking iphony!

One of the main reasons I have an android device is because I LIKE being able to take my memory with me.

/rant
[HTC One S] UMGixxer:
I currently have the Captivate and I was close to getting the SGSII but then the damn skyrocket came and then I heard news of the SGSIII coming out. A little upset that the SGSII doesnt have ICS yet too. I have ICS on my Captivate and I cant see buying the SGSII that is running GB when my old Captivate is running ICS. So now I read about this HTC One X and I must say that I am liking it and that I especially like how the camera takes all the pics by holding the button down. And it appears that it will be available in April so thats putting pressure on me because Im tired of waiting just to hear about the SGSIII.
[HTC One S] noneabove:
Can you add on a poll to ask who is getting a 'One' phone for sure, who is considering it, and who is definitely not? I'm just curious of the numbers... I would really like to get the One S but only if it has a strong community backing to it.
[HTC One S] ngtson2:
:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[HTC One S] Rick_1995:
codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ics

Looks like MSM8974 (codename copper ?) got it's first build of android last month :cool:
[HTC One S] motu90:
Are there further "One's" planned or leaked already?
[HTC One S] chaki-:
Speculating a bit for the One XXL i guess :laugh:

I don't think there will be another One family member.....or at least i think so.

But who knows, they are like soap-mini series LOL You hope to see the end, but after 9 seasons its still not even close :D
[HTC One S] XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX:
I hate how the one x feel super cheap in your hand
[HTC One S] PeartFan40:
I dunno, I think it feels pretty solid. Definitely more solid than Samsung devices, with the exception of the Note. That phone is a tank.

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[HTC One S] Product F(RED):
Agreed. Even though I refuse to buy a One X because of the bootloader ordeal (International version), I have to say it looks and feels much better than my Galaxy S III.
[HTC One S] PicomatStudios:
We have a few test phones here in the office. The One V seems to be a pretty good budget/mid-range option - feels quite solid.

Can't remove the battery, though !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tspx23:
This is a wet apply screen protector from Xtreme Guards. They usually run about 10 bucks but on ebay and amazon you can find them for really cheap. In terms of protection I'd assume that it would protect the device pretty well since it's thicker than some of the other protectors I've tried (SGP, and a regular plastic one). It doesn't seem to have any orange peel either.

I just installed and so far so good. It just comes in the mail with a screen protector and a squeege so you would need to dip it in soapy water and apply. This obviously doesn't come with a warranty or anything but is really cheap so I wouldn't mind buying another one. In my opinion this is better than ghost armor (about the same quality for way less). I'd always run to a kiosk everytime I get a new phone and shell out around 40 bucks just to get it done. This is definitely a better alternative.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Samsung...735869?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35b76e73fd
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mwalt2:
Just got the 3 I ordered when I saw this thread. These are pretty great. I like the wet protectors since they cover the whole screen and are easy to position right. There is no orange peel on these and they feel pretty good (little rubbery, but that's been the case with any wet protector I've used). These are better than the Phantom Skinz I was using, and they're only a dollar a pop.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] czonin:
Got them for my Bionic when I had it. They orange peel like crazy, never using them again.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mwalt2:
Does it take awhile for three orange peel to show up? I just installed it earlier today and I don't see any even with a light shining on it with the screen off. Hopefully it stays like that, but I'm out 3 bucks off it doesn't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tspx23:
Mine doesn't have any orange peel either. I got them yesterday and just installed. It looks pretty good has more protection than the SGP wet apply screen, but the SGP is less rubbery and this one is rubbery since I think it is thicker. It will definitely protect it against keys etc.

All in all a very solid buy. I'll post pics when I can get my hands on a camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] czonin:
All of them take some time for it to start to appear.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cordell507:
Keys unless pressure really really hard will never scratch a screen, glass is much stronger than most material that keys are made of.

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Also here's a link for the full body protector, I'm not sure if its for CDMA or GSM though I'm going to order on so I guess I'll find out http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Prime-FULL-BODY-Clear-LCD-Screen-Protector-Case-Shield-/230711537975?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35b77ab137
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cloney:
Tried it on a GS2, screen feels very rubbery but thick.