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[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
As different multitouch issues exist, and as the first (and most) reported by people is the one related to grounding, I wonder what they have fixed.

Can you give a link to the 4.0.4 changelog please?

And if it's not kernel related, why does this bug exist in CM9 too, that uses the same kernel?

Finally, if it's not kernel related, why do all ROM developers refuse to have a look at this problem??

EDIT:

allright, what I found for 4.0.4 changelog is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1481044

it's for the galaxy nexus.

With the "multitouch issue seems resolved", and a link to a video showing the problem.

Except that the problem is completly different from the one we have!!!!!!!!!!!! You can see a bug occuring when sliding fingers, especially near the corners, looks like one of the HD2 problems of buttons swapping that was reported years ago. I remember we had to apply specific touchscreen settings into Fpse to avoid this kind of bug.

see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=vV8ipacbcao

Wait for 16seconds to see almost the same bug as on the Galaxy Nexus

And note that HTC has NEVER solved this problem on the HD2, so you are confident in HTC, I'm not at all.

On our Sensation, it's completly different, there's no bug at all when sliding fingers (that's why pinch to zoom is OK)

Not the same bug, so sorry, I seriously doubt the same fix will work for a completly different problem, on a different device.
[HTC Sensation] bduvel:
I got reply from HTC, they have seen the video for sure now with the problem.

They did notice me the video that it was from an earlier leak, so i told them that i could also make this bug happen on latest 3.32.401.105 OTA.

Asked me if i was running a custom rom/bootloader :)

Anyone with complete stock update that like to test the problem out? i'm running the latest base and should be the same bootloader so.

Replied to them, hope they try it out themself.
[HTC Sensation] DANOFDANGER:
Iv tried the untouched OTA update file and has the same issue, i also have tried other roms like ICS MIUI and ICS based with the problem still persisting. I think its to do with the ICS base and not sense ?.
[HTC Sensation] RobbieKeane:
Thank for your help
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
Nope, this means that's Android 4.0.3 fault, since HTC-ICS and CM9 kernels are different.

We should ask devs for a fix or wait for Android 4.0.4 to be released.

Btw, I noticed this issue right today, while playing a multitouch game, then I saw this thread on XDA, what a coincidence. I hope it will be fixed soon.
[HTC Sensation] mista.maja:
seems like the android dev's really dropped the ball on this one... first the IPsec vpn issue, now this multitouch bug - this should have been found & fixed way before 4.0 was released.

what about the galaxy nexus and transformer prime? does anyone have access to one of those devices to test if the multitouch bug is present?
[HTC Sensation] liamstears:
New ville leak means we will have sense 4 android 4.0.4 rom so we will have to test these touch issue when roms are out...
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
In addition to this, I would say that this bug is very strange. It seems that only ICS for Sensation got it.

Are there any ICS rom that does NOT have this issue? (examples: CM9, tripnmiui, any sense 4 rom, etc.)

Another hypothesis could be the different HBOOT leaked from HTC. I think it has strictly to do with touchscreen hardware. This explains why ALL ICS roms have this bug and why only ICS for Sensation has it.

Someone should talk with HTC devs regarding this.

EDIT: Not Android fault. I tried an ICS AOSP (EggyEnergy) and multitouch were working perfectly. So it could be the HTC kernel or some other file configured wrongly by HTC.
[HTC Sensation] angel13th:
Gotta subscribe this.
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
Any news?

Can I try a different kernel than the default HTC's on latest ICS leak? I don't know if there are any.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
MANY THANKS to all of you for your feedbacks, efforts, and investigations!!!

I hope HTC is now definitly aware of this problem.

As for me, I also realized that apps/games react differently to this bug.

In terms of gaming, for example, some games will be really affected by buttons swapping, when others will only suffer sticky input

An abvious example:

=>play SNESsoid or NESoid by Yongzh, as well as 50% of consoles emulators: As soon as inputs swap, controls freeze (crashhh!!!!)

=>But I've tried some other SNES emulators in which controls won't freeze, just input swapping will release the pressed-input for a some milliseconds and it will press again, that's all. But sticky input is here (it happens less often than input swapping, but it happens too)

Same for native android games, some will matter at most if inputs swap, and controlls will freeze or release, while some won't suffer so much and remain playable, just direction will tend to stick sometimes
[HTC Sensation] bduvel:
It happens on AOSP, since it uses HTC's leaked kernel.. so also on Eggyw/e
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
Nope, on EggyEnergy doesn't happen that bug. I tried it.

I think it will not happen even on TripNDroidOS.
[HTC Sensation] runderekrun:
CM9 uses HTC leaked kernel, the same as the official OTA of ICS from HTC.

Devs will still likely use the official kernel from the ICS update so it shouldn't change anything.

HBOOT problem does not equal hardware problem. All ICS roms have this bug because they all use the same kernel.

Eggy's rom uses the same kernel as every ICS on Sensation. The problem will exist on Eggy's as well. I will flash to confirm, even though I know the bug will still be there.
[HTC Sensation] sevag00:
I can confirm that on Virtuous Inquisition rom i don't have any multitouch issues.
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
NOPE. Flash it personally and see that in EggyEnergy are no touchscreen problems. I tried it.

It uses HTC kernel? Well, so the problem

is not the HTC kernel

.

See?

The bug is not in HBOOT, nor in Android, nor in kernel. It must be some faulty system files. If anybody knows what are those files, then we fix the bug.

(I'm about to download Virtuous to check this rom, thanks for reporting sevag00)
[HTC Sensation] runderekrun:
Ahh I see now. Eggy's newest is (apparently) using Trip's custom kernel now. That's why the thread was locked and all that and probably why there is no touchscreen issue.

But as for virtous rom?? I'll have to check that.

EDIT: I dunno about Virtuous Rom not having issues.. check out this bug report apex84 entered 9 days ago (about newest version).
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
So at least EggyEnergy is bug-free, and Virtuous is to be seriously tested?

I'll flash it asap, if there's no bug, it will be time to ask ROM devs again, they were so sure it was kernel related that they refused to investigate......or even to answer (Mike1986 never answered a single word for example)
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
UPDATE, false alarm: I just tried Virtuous Inquisition 4.0.0 and it has multitouch issue. -.-

So, it might still be kernel issue. I will try flashing TripNRaVeR's kernel.

EDIT: lol, it seems that trip changed to HTC kernel.
[HTC Sensation] webstar1:
has anybody tried trips kernel on sense roms?
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
I've just tried this kernel: ENDTIME_kernel_007_ICS-TripNRaVeR

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21765938&postcount=1211

to be found linked in the post quoted above

on my Android Revolution 6.5.0 ROM

......and NOT A SINGLE MULTITOUCH BUG AT ALL!!!!

I couldn't reproduced the bug with multitouch-tester apps, and I tried hard, but impossible, input never swap

So yeah, same ROM, same firmware, just dalvik+cache wipe then flash the kernel, then no bug at all===> the bug is inside the kernel (I'm of course using SebastianFM kernels)

Sadly, the multitouch-working kernel had other issues for me, like launcher always restarting and system reboots.

Is there a more recent similar kernel to try???????
[HTC Sensation] runderekrun:
To my knowledge trip never got very far with getting his kernel stable.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
:(

Sad!

At least, this proves that the kernel is the definitive culprit
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
Many thanks. You discovered where's the bug.

But either we wait for HTC to release kernel sources, or we wait for devs to do another kernel not based from HTC.

Sebastian's kernel has the multitouch bug, since it's a hex-modified version of the HTC one. I presume he can't fix that bug.
[HTC Sensation] SebastianFM:
My kernel is only modified version of HTC kernel 3.0.16-gda3fdfc.

Bug is probably inside the kernel. It isn't related to ROM. I think it is related to reporting touches to system. Kernel multi-touch is working properly. You can check this by enable debug (adb shell "echo 2 > /sys/android_touch/debug_level"). Touch coordinates are always correct for finger 1 and 2.

I've tried to fix it by replacing cy8c_ts_work_func (drivers/input/touchscreen/cy8c_tma_ts.c) using code from HTC kernel 2.6.35.14, but without success because ICS requires new drivers.
[HTC Sensation] runderekrun:
Damn. Thanks for looking though.
[HTC Sensation] BurnRubber90:
Want to know why Trip's kernel doesn't have this prob? Because its 2.9 kernel, not 3.0. Try Trips lastest kernel ( the one he posted on twitter) and the prob is gone.

So either HTC fixes it or someone does, though that person will probably need kernel source.
[HTC Sensation] webstar1:
Trip did have a stable kernel in the trip.droid os series I used it. However it did have battery drain but that's most likely due to the Rom. I will try to find it

edit:Found the stable kernel I think. Will try once I get WiFi in a hour or so. Then will report back
[HTC Sensation] HunnyBearLewis:
I'm especially interested to hear your results. I tried trips ENDTIME 007 kernel from i900frenchaddict's post and couldn't boot.
[HTC Sensation] webstar1:
Didn't boot. Would like to know what Rom I9000 French addict is using. I'll try flash his kernel first and then the one I have on top

Edit: his version of trips kernel booted but was really unstable. Then installed the stable one over the top and didn't boot. It doesn't like sense :(. Sebastionfm should contact trip on Twitter on what he did
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Thanks for having a look at it! You've tried replacing with older code, what I had thought about but don't have the skills to do, but sadly without success......So we now have to wait for the source code I fear?

Yes, the version I foud (007) is really unstable, as I said, my launcher was always restarting, I found it was impossible to keep this kernel, so I just tried multitouch with it, and then flashed SebastianFM v1.20 again
[HTC Sensation] bduvel:
that doesn't say anything at all?
[HTC Sensation] runderekrun:
Well you can see touch input 1 and 2 switch.

EDIT: Wait... re-looking at it, even that is vague.
[HTC Sensation] bduvel:
Yea well the problem can't be really shown with screenshots, have to see it in action.

Anyway latest response i had from htc was;

if they don't make a new ota for this guess we'll have to wait for kernel release and have some kernel genius like sebastian/faux to play with it.

ps; he dind't have typo's in his messages before :/
[HTC Sensation] Piplos:
LOL, sure it supports 2 or more touches, but the problem is the first and second touches swapping if you tap one of these rapidly. Check it yourself.

If you don't get what I say, see this video that shows the bug: http://youtu.be/30ogIc_Yib0
[HTC Sensation] sevag00:
Aha. Now i get this multitouch issue you guys are talking about. I thought you guys didn't have multitouch at all.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
:D

Well, we have multitouch, but let's say if you're using an ICS ROM, you only have it for pinch to zoom, for the rest, it's messy.
[HTC Sensation] HunnyBearLewis:
I tried Tripndroid OS to see for myself...and even though it says in his changelogs that he's updated to latest HTC kernel, I don't think it is.

Kernel Version reads:

2.6.35.14_TripNKernel_ICS_preview_003

tripnraver@noeri-VirtualBox #1

Then to check, I found his latest ICS kernel 003 on twitter and after flashing it is:

2.6.35.14_TripNKernel_ICS_preview_003

tripnraver@noeri-VirtualBox #2

And with both, all multitouch in games works correctly.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
I'd like to know which kernel from TripNraver is the latest...

I mean, I tried "ENDTIME Kernel 007 ICS TripNraver", no multitouch bug, but completly unstable

And you had "TripNKernel_ICS_preview_003" ..... was is stable? Is 003 newer than 007??
[HTC Sensation] webstar1:
The newer kernels from him don't work on sense. The old ones do which are unstable and new stable ones don't boot
[HTC Sensation] moshe22:
Lol!
[HTC Sensation] V1k70r:
The ENDTIME kernel is for Gingerbread, the ICS preview ones are for ICS, although they seem not to use the Linux 3.0 kernel (which may be the reason BT works).
[HTC Sensation] HunnyBearLewis:
I couldn't use ICS_preview_003 on Sense roms, as noted by someone previously.

I also couldn't get it to boot with opensensation and resorted to using tripondroid os...it's not my favorite and it's not the most stable by any means but I can play games so for now it'll do.

Though the latest release I've seen has a bug where sometimes you have to press the power button several times to wake...can be very annoying.
[HTC Sensation] SebastianFM:
I think I have good news for the gamers. I fixed multitouch. New kernels are available here.
[HTC Sensation] overthinkingme:
Thank you!
[HTC Sensation] joaquinf:
Seems to be still present :(. No more touch0 - 1 switching, but the touch1 got stuck after stop pressing the screen. Now even with a third finger :eek:

Check it out

http://youtu.be/R4P9oReapJU
[HTC Sensation] xHausx:
Atmel's github may have something that could help

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1496246
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
So, good news thanks to SebastianFM!

For me, inputs don't swap anymore, not at all!

The second input tends to be more sticky than before, I hope it's just a matter of testing to find the right mix

A BIG THANKS TO SEBASTIANFM for his efforts !!!
[HTC Sensation] runderekrun:
Yep working great here too. Thanks Sebastian for such a quick fix. Oh and thanks frenchaddict for starting this thread.
[HTC Sensation] remus82:
Yes I can confirm that the new test kernel solved the multitouch issue. Amazing work by sebastian :thumbup:
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Let's edit the OP ! => [fixed]

That's just so great to finally play with the faaast GPU management of ICS and a fully working multitouch!!!

Once more, many thanks to SebastianFM!

Also many thanks to you guys, you who posted in this thread, tried different ROMs and Kernels, reported your results, contacted HTC, etc
[HTC Sensation] MikePorntoy:
Hi all,

I just registered to say thanks to all for resolving this multitouch issue. I was going mad for this. Again, thanks!!
[HTC Sensation] jaylo2003:
New Problem.

Hey guys, need some tip here. I just sent in my screen for repair under warranty and everything came back looking good. Then when I am using the touch screen there is a portion of the screen when I touch with 1 finger the screen detects as two fingers being touched. I took a snap shots which I took with a screen development tool. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9E_gXJAjU7E/T4HSTK16YzI/AAAAAAAABC4/oImC8SMYZzw/s512/2012-04-08_01-35-55.png[/url]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ESNHH9SRheQ/T4HV3i0UC1I/AAAAAAAABDQ/LLGfFKVnYxw/s512/1970-01-02_00-39-54.png[/url]

The photos show that anywhere I use 1 finger within those two lines it is detected as 2 fingers. Any thing between those two points are not accessible, so some keys on the keyboard I won't be able to type.

Could this be a digitizer problem? Or can this be ICS problem? Because I after I got the phone repaired I didn't bother testing I just upgrade directly to ICS. I tried two different ICS roms but the same problem. If someone can give me more insight this would be great.

Thanks guys.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] RDH64:
I have been looking at the different roms for the note, when I found one I was interested in I clicked the link and it sent me to "multiupload", I need another link that will send me to download roms for the note. Please help THX
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] homegeek:
You might want to browse more through the development section. There are a couple of ROMS and they are stored in different places depending on the individual developer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Clearprop:
What ROMs are you looking at? The international ones won't work. Be careful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
Listen to this guy. There is only one rom for the i717 at the moment. TPC
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
Hello,

Firefox is not a bad browser, but I think Chrome is better. Firefox uses more resources and even though I have an SSD I still think it starts slow, Chrome lauching faster then Firefox, on a HDD you will see the difference better.

But on my SSD I noticed the difference to. I still use firefox because off that little arrow in the url bar which lets me go to webpages I visit often. Chrome has something like that but you need open a new tab for it.

But I like the way firefox lets me visit webpages fast better, as I not need open a new tab for it.

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[Off-topic] brendonlee:
No, Chrome just isn't setup that way. Adding a new tab only takes a micro second anyway...
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Takes me at least one whole second.....

Then again, I'm getting old and aren't as quick as I used to be....

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
Well Chrome is certainly fast, but adding a new tab when I have no reason to that is not the way I wish to work.

So in Chrome i need put the adress in the adress balk, but with firefox I just get a list with most visit sites.
[Off-topic] Archer:
Just start typing part of the address, eg. facebook, twitter etc. and Chrome will fill in the rest for you. Okay it's not a dropdown, but it's as quick once you're used to it, if not quicker.
[Off-topic] coolsandie:
How about just typing this : chrome://history/

PS: Not every browser has same features. But I just want to say the Autocomplete feature in Chrome is awesome. To get that in Firefox, we should edit some Firefox settings (values?).
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
That works ofcourse to, but that is something Firefox can do to.

The dropdown is more like most visited websites, Chrome takes another approach in that and will show you thumbnails with most visit websites if you open a new tab.

Right now I still keep using firefox as webbrowser, but its much heavier then chrome, but it works good for me.

I use Chrome mostly in incognito mode because with chrome you can surf incognito and on same time also use the normall mode in another window. I think Chrome is very good browser I just keep using firefox for the normall browser most time.

But I think firing up a chrome right after I logged into Windows will be faster then firing up firefox.
[Off-topic] coolsandie:
But what if, Firefox is used in private browsing mode .. does the visited sites (in private browse mode) show up in drop down menu ?

And yeah, in Chrome you can browse with 2 modes. But not in Firefox I guess.
[Off-topic] leonvictor2012:
Can I get this feature in Chrome which is in firefox?

There are lots of the features of Mozilla Firefox that differentiate from other web browsers such as Web Explorer. Firefox depends on the extension technique to permit users to alter the browser according to their requirements in lieu of providing all features in the standard distribution.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tifosi256:
Hey everyone.

Ever since upgrading to .15 OTA, I've had issues with Google Maps. I have force killed the app, cleared the cache etc. But basically, the app will suddenly freeze up, then die, taking me back to the desktop.

I had no issues whatsoever with previous firmwares.

Has anyone else got this? Any fixes?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mkatforum:
I faced the same issue yesterday! It loads maps and as soon as the GPS gets a fix, the GPS service and the maps just crash. Am on .15 firmware too.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tifosi256:
I've tried with and without GPS enabled and it happens either way.

I' also uninstalled updates to use the ROM version and it's the same there.

However, I think I've just fixed it. I've done a reboot and it seems stable for now. I'll report back if it isn't fixed for good
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jbcantrell:
I am having same issue. If I keep trying Google Maps, it eventually stops crashing.

Jonathan
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tifosi256:
Try rebooting the pad. it worked for me. Still going strong.
[XPERIA X8 General] pochopsp:
guys, can someone work on this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1004740

i want to try this gesture for my synaptics screen panel but the dev has discontinued the project...
[XPERIA X8 General] Spevky:
... No. If you are unhappy with your synaptics then go buy a cypress one. Dx will not ever improve it because everyone wanted something that was impossible.
[XPERIA X8 General] pochopsp:
i'd buy it, but i don't know where find it...
[XPERIA X8 General] Spevky:
Well you can always buy a new phone. Or trade it.
[XPERIA X8 General] Gottermann:
5

Well ... Not everyone has the money for a new phone. It's a pity, of course, that it happened. Myself suffering because of this chip Synaptics. But in my town I do, honestly, I have not seen another chip, only this one.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solid0snake:
Hi, i was experimenting and downgraded my X10 back to 2.1

But now when i flash any 2.3 rom i cant receive or send SMS. When checking if the SMSC Number is correct in Phone Settings (*#*#4636#*#*) the field stays blank and i can't add a new one.

if i go back to 2.1 it works again. :confused:
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Seifer1975:
My wife's phone has a very weird problem. If the phone is rebooted while it's connected to the charger, the phone will have no signal after boot up. The signal bar shows a cross and the IMEI is blank. The phone is okay if you reboot again without it being charged. I have tried alot of ways to fix this problem including changing ROM (currently on criskelo v38), changing kernel (currently on NEAK v1.3.3), changing modem (currently on XXLPH), wiping dalvik, and fixing permissions. But none worked.

My own GSII doesn't have this problem. Anyone can shed any light on this?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Correct IMEI for phone ~??

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Seifer1975:
Yes, imei is correct during those times the phone has signal.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orathorn:
My problem is when reboot while chargign the phone does not recognise sim network and didnt even ask to input the simlock like normally when I reboot without charging.Maybe this is a bug?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Seifer1975:
Yah, same problem. As my wife doesn't have a sim lock, so it will show a triangle and that network is not responding or something. But it is perfectly fine on my phone. Is this problem affecting some batches?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poochie2:
Same problem here, I'm becoming mad. Flashing a new rom with no restored apps eases the problem for a little while, but it will do happen again. Restoring efs or changing kernel does nothing... Seems hw problem.

Ps: I also noticed a higher system cpu usage which results in higher battery drain. Phone is still usable but I don't get the same duration off charger as before.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pee41:
I have this problem too, how do we fix it?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poochie2:
Hardware problem, I had to RMA it! It was amazingly difficult to explain the issue to the poor fella in the assistance point
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obagleyfreer:
I also have this problem, I just never reboot my phone when it's charging. It would be nice to fix though.

What's RMA?

Thank you :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pee41:
+1 what is RMA?