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[Droid Incredible General] iowabeakster:
If you are thinking about CM7 and want a more stable, smoother, more optimized ROM for Dinc, and also don't want the hassles of chasing nightlies, try "inc-deck-gingerbread."

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1119857

It's a CM7 clone... that is better than the official one from CM. The only real difference, as far as features, is that inc-deck comes with a vanilla launcher, instead of ADW launcher like CM has. Just install the launcher of your choice, if you don't want vanilla. I like Go launcher EX.

Incredikernel is what I use also.

mods (ones that I remember at least)

ext4 for all... normal data version

v6 supercharger... balanced
[Droid Incredible General] watt9493:
the inc is about a 1000x's better for hacking then all verizon motorola phones combined. lol. and give the latest cm7 nightly a try with the newest incredikernel. i can link you to ext4 mods, v6 supercharger and adrenalyne shot too.
[Droid Incredible General] internecinehigh:
Thanks for all the input guys, I've been learning a lot from these posts!

I used v6 Supercharger for a while with my X, but stopped using it because I never stayed on 1 rom for more than a couple days at a time and got so sick of setting it up every day lol.

I could just never find a rom that I could settle with because they all had their problems...

So other than OC/UV, what else are the benefits from IncrediKernal?

Also, My phone hasn't arrived yet, So I don't know which version of android or HBoot is on it yet, But is there anything In specific that I need to look for or that I need to know before I start to root?

And, with the X, We had what we called an "SBF", which basically was an un-brick for our phones. If our phones ever bricked or bootlooped after flashing anything, we just plugged our phones into the computer, booted into recovery mode, and "SBF'ed" back to stock. And basically, our phones went right back to stock, unrooted, bloated Froyo or Gingerbread, and we had a 2.3.340 file for Froyo that we could flash, and a 2.3.602 Gingerbread File.

So is there anything like that the Dinc?

Thanks again guys!

This is the kind of community that I was wishing the DX community was, and now I'm glad I'm gonna be apart of the Dinc Forums!
[Droid Incredible General] watt9493:
well, its REALLY REALLY and i stress REALLLLLLLY hard to brick an incredible. the only way i know of is pulling battery while flashing radios or double flashing them. most stuff is recoverable via a RUU. ive never had to use one personally, because i dont ever mess with radios. but here is the website where all the hboots, sbf's and stuff are found.

http://pvillecomp.com/
[Droid Incredible General] SlimSnoopOS:
I must say we have been a tight knit community since release date. Also:

Droid X: SBF = Droid Incredible: RUU
[Droid Incredible General] cmlusco:
I love this phone and this (ever shrinking) incredible community. I will not upgrade for anything and will shed a tear the day my incredible dies.
[Droid Incredible General] internecinehigh:
lmao I can already tell you guys are gonna be a great group to work with, expect to hear A LOT from me

Thanks for the insight on the whole SBF/RUU deal

I'm familiar with ADB from my first two android phones, but NEVER used ADB once with my DX, so I'm a little rusty. Should I be worried about setting up my SDK and what not before I get my phone just to get it out of the way? or no?

Also, I was reading about Downgrading to S-off, and obviously I don't know what version of Android is on my Incredible until I get it, but is downgrading completely necessary for Root/Rom?

I'm guessing you guys also flash .zip's thru clockwork or rom manager?

I briefly had a samsung Fascinate that used Voodoo recovery instead of clockwork, Is why I ask.
[Droid Incredible General] sstapley_56:
Agreed, CM7 with incredikernel. Stable & rock solid, so many customizations available. Tried out just about every ROM after getting bored of CM7, and always end up coming back before days end. Nothing better for this phone in my opinion.
[Droid Incredible General] cmlusco:
You dont really need the whole sdk, just adb, fastboot, and their drivers. You can pick that up here http://dinc.does-it.net/ADB/ADB-Fastboot-USB-Drivers_v4_(x86)(x64).zip. And here http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install is how to install the drivers if you dony already know.

You can get root and flash roms without being s-off, however you cant flash radios, hboots, or splash screens. I would highly recomend to do it anyways, as it makes your phone much easier to troubleshoot and fix if it were to break somehow in the future. It also makes it much easier to reroot should you need to do an ruu or somehow loose root.

Yes roms and mods are flashed thru cwm (prefered) or amon ra recovery, and ruus, hboots, radios, splash screens, and recoveries thru hboot.
[Droid Incredible General] SlimSnoopOS:
I hear ya! I'm contemplating delaying my upgrade until late summer to see how things develop. All these upcoming phones have excellent specs minus battery capacity so I need to see what changes my mind. Not to mention, I've been checking out various other forums (GNex and Rezound) and many users just seem more argumentative and blatantly rude. I guess that comes with the increased user base.
[Droid Incredible General] tiny4579:
not a fan of the gnex community myself. The dinc people I know there rarely post.

Anyway. Love cm7 and I flashed cm 6.1 on my Inc using boot manager just for nostalgia tonight. Cm6.1 was my first custom ROM ever.
[Droid Incredible General] internecinehigh:
Sweet thanks for all the input guys! All these links and info definitely help and are making my life a whole lot easier lol

The only reason I didnt buy a newer phone is because I'm so sick of the big ass screens and what not on them, that was one of the main things I hated about my DX. But, I'm enjoying the community here and I don't even have the phone yet lol, it should be here tomorrow I can't wait!

So tell me, is there any bugs on CM7 that you've found? Or is it perfect? What's your favorite tweaks? Do you guys have unthrottle mods? And Voltages/ frequencys are your over clocks at? Do you prefer setcpu/quick clock/rom toolbox, etc?

Thanks again guys
[Droid Incredible General] watt9493:
The only thing that doesn't work in cm7 that I'd wish worked is 720p video. I can live without. To set voltage, most use an app called incredicontrol. Overclocking is built into cm7. Iamtheonetheycallneo has a flashable voltage script, that lowers the voltages for the high and low voltage part of the frequency.

-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
[Droid Incredible General] cmlusco:
I havent used cm in a long time, i lile sense my self. There are tons of great tweaks and mods out there, again im not sure which work with cm. Some of the most notable mods are the ext4_no_data_limit mod, advanced power, quick settings, zoomy autobrightness mod, trackball wake/unlock. Most of these mods are built in to custom roms.

There is a data throttle remover mod however it is debatable as to whether it does anything. Not that the mod dosent work, it does remove lines of code for throttling. But supposedly verizon does not throttle data, and most experts say that if they do or wanted to they could do it server side as opposed to device side.

Most kernels go 128mhz min and 1.19ghz max. Some kernels can overclock higher than 1.19, but can be unstable. I my self prefer no-frills cpu control, as it is free and can also change your i/o scheduler. Most people use setcpu though.
[Droid Incredible General] internecinehigh:
What would you say is the average battery life for IncrediKernal?

Would you say either the Kernal or Rom most affects battery life?

I'm just looking for something with good battery life, but still smooth, and RELIABLE(most important factor lol) with tons of customization
[Droid Incredible General] cmlusco:
I do not use incredikernel per say, i use the sense gingertiny kernel. I believe they are made by or at least colaborated on by the same group of devs. As to battery life it is really all on how you have it setup. If you overclock and over volt battery life decreases, if you under clock and undervolt battery life increases. Also using custom governors like smartass 2 and interactivex will increase your battery life by changing how the cpu scales up and down. The kernel definitley effects battery life more that the rom. That being said how you setup your rom (number of - apps syncing, background apps running, widgets, screen brightness) also greatly affect your battery life.
[Droid Incredible General] iowabeakster:
I will probably get shouted down by the loyal CM fans, but if you want stable, do yourself a favor and don't flash the CM7.1[stable] ROM. It is NOT stable. Fast? Yes... yes it is...

Significant numbers of people have serious stability problems with CM7 on the Incredible. I discovered all of these other people, with stability problems, when I was having them myself. Since that time, I have tried to do others a favor by giving them warning... and basically always told that I don't know what I'm talking about.

I have never had any significant problem with ANY other ROM that I have ever used, except CM 7.1. I prefer to find a ROM that I like, and run it for a long time. I'll give you this link as the perfect example. You will see my warning, and you see the other person's result.

http://www.incredibleforum.com/forum/htc-incredible-roms/10902-cm7-vzw-any-problems.html

Just use the "right" version CM... and you will be fine. The "right" version of CM7 to use is inc-deck-gingerbread (I linked earlier in this thread).

I will shut-up about it now.
[Droid Incredible General] cmlusco:
If you want true stability really the only way to go imho is with a stock based rom.
[Droid Incredible General] tiny4579:
I've had nothing but good experiences on CM7. I know I posted on this before. I've flashed roms so often that I would wipe once in a while and dirty flashed between nightlies without the force close issue. The fact of the matter is that there is a hardware limitation of the /data/data partition to 150mb. That is HTC's mess up. I've heard the issues happen when that happens. That is not a fault of the ROM there though maybe it reacts poorly to full /data/data. My question is does that happen when /data/data is not full?

Also, I'm responding as a kernel tweaker but the reports of force closes are useless without proper logs.

Sorry, it nerved me a bit. (and the fanboy in me. I apologize) but I wanted to summarize that bashing a rom or kernel without trying to provide logs bothers me.

I've heard inc-deck is good. Can't comment myself as I haven't used it.

But on the topic of ROMS.

I like CM7 for AOSP.

As far as Sense: Stock+,Ice Cream Sense, McSense 2.6, Touch of Blue (love the touch of theming added)
[Droid Incredible General] iowabeakster:
OK, I lied. I ain't gonna shut-up. I'm gonna help the OP... no matter what.

short answer = yes

read the first post in this thread... this person has 53.7 MBs free in /data/data

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32784-consistent-freezingfc-after-update-to-71/

My Long answer =

When it happened to me, I read that it was caused by a full /data/data. So, I flashed your ext4 "no data limit" script. That did not get it working. I really have no idea how much space was in /data/data because I couldn't launch Terminal Emulator to find out. My phone was either frozen or FCing with pretty much every touch.

I NEED my phone working to do my real job. So, I flashed my nandroid of SkyRaider. On SkyRaider I had over 50 MBs free in /data/data. Currently, I have about 75 MBs free on Inc-deck. I can't imagine it would have been any different with CM, since I had the same apps installed (essentially) on all ROMs. If anything I would expect much less when running CM, since the install of CM was used for such a short period of time.

The links in this thread and my post above demonstrate that there is an issue (there are plenty of other threads around the interwebs too). For example, In the 7.2 Pons Kang thread... there is a post from some other guy that says his CM7.1 needs to be reflashed every month because it goes into constant FC mode (go check it out). If anyone started digging (as I did, when I had the problem), you would also find how common it is.

I do not have a log documenting situation as it happened, or need one, to know there is a problem with CM 7.x [stable]. Helping CM troubleshoot their "stable" ROM is not my priority... doing MY job is my priority. I can and do help the open-source community, when I can. Mostly I've helped with donations... I've given hundreds of dollars to the Linux/Android open-source communities and developers over the years (and I consider the money donated a bargain from what I've gotten from them). I am very grateful. I am learning more and more, and would gladly help with more troubleshooting if I and when I can. But, I can't have an phone that doesn't work at all.

It is only my intention to help the OP of this thread. I do not wish to "bash" the CM team. I am only speaking the truth. I deeply appreciate the work that they do, and will continue to support them. I am simply helping the OP find a ROM that will be "reliable"... which he states as his priority.

In the link I posted (in my last post) I was too late to help that guy... that is not gonna happen this time.
[Droid Incredible General] internecinehigh:
Alright guys I have had the phone for about three days now, and I have got to say I think you're right. I ran Cm for the first day after rooting,downgrading, and gaining s-off, and found it to be a little hit or miss. I was having problems with it locking up at the lockscreen and just taking forever to load. I've been running! Insensitive minimalist for the past two days and its been very nice. My only complaint is the battery. Even with everything turned off, including auto sync and background data, and lowered brightness.

Also setcpu profiles with gingertiny kernel.

Any tips?
[Droid Incredible General] cmlusco:
It is advised not to use profiles with set cpu, unless you are using the ondemand governor. What governor are you using? Smartass2 is going to give you the best balance of performance and battery life. You could also use incredicontroll app to undervolt a little. If everyrthing is already off, im not sure what else you could do. Do you get a good signal where you are?
[Droid Incredible General] tiny4579:
I wonder why CM is hit or miss for some. It's rock solid for me.

As far as battery life, what are you expecting out of it that what you are getting is bad? Sense has an option to have data turn off automatically when it's not in use but if you disable auto sync and background data you are essentially doing the same as the radio should drain at normal idle speed the whole time.

As far as setcpu profiles, I discourage them. I think they're more harm than good, especially screen off and especially if you're running the default governor smartassv2. See if your battery life improves without them.

---------- Post added at 08:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 PM ----------

You hit basically every point I stated. I don't know if profiles are needed with ondemand per se but they work hand in hand the best on ondemand.

And an unrelated comment. The latest kernel is 2.6.35.14 not 2.6.35.13. Not a big deal but me being nitpicky. And another unrelated note about the kernel version as I'm thinking about it. I don't know why the + is there. It's not something I added in their to be cool but rather what popped out in the version string when I build it. It might be due to combining code from different places.
[Droid Incredible General] internecinehigh:
Alright ill try not running any profiles, because I am running the smartass governor. I like running profiles because I like to listen to Pandora a lot at work and I like to make sure when the screen is off it is at the lowest voltage possible to save battery. Can anyone confirm that with Pandora running and no profiles set that smartass runs at lowest voltage with screen off?
[Droid Incredible General] tiny4579:
Is it smartassv2? It doesn't have a screen off profile, but it has another method where it favors 384mhz when screen's off. That really isn't a problem but if you have to have a screen off with smartass you can use an earlier gingertiny kernel like the 12/31 release as it has smartass with screen off max at 384. If you really need a screen off max of 245 or 128 use ondemand or lagfree and set a screen off profile. All governors have some kind of load based scaling in them. Lagfree under heavy IO with screen off still preferred lower speeds.

My favorites are smartassv2 and lagfree tied for first followed by interactiveX in third.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolos_:
Hello,

I just wanted to install ICS on my Atrix 4G, but i missed something because it seems i'm now unable to flash anything and i'im stick in fastboot or RSD mode.

I think i managed to unlock the bootloader (i'm sure it said 'not implemented' on my screen, but i did not check if the Atrix screen said so)

I successfully got root and installed CWM, but i flashed only Beta-0.2.0 and gapps, but i think i forgot to flash a kernel (not sure :/ )

My device is from Europe (France) i don't know if someone here can tell me how to get out of this soft brick.

I tried to flash ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.sbf, but it doesn't work (the flash does not start after checksum...)

when i force (sbf_flash.bin -f) it stops flashing after only one step :

>> waiting for phone: Connected.

>> uploading RDL03: 100.0%

-- OK

>> verifying ramloader

-- OK

>> executing ramloader

-- OK

>> waiting for phone: Connected.

>> sending erase

then... the phone says 'sec_exception: febe, 35, 35'

ant the terminal (linux) says :

>> uploading CG02: 0.0%usb_bulk_write -110

>> uploading CG02: failed at 00000010/00005810

!! failed

>> rebooting

no luck with intl-fix-try1.sbf : it flashes but nothing new on rebbot : fastboot or RSD

I wonder if my bootloader was really unlocked :confused:

How can i get back to Gingerbread (even froyo ! ) ? :(

Thanks
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turl1:
Go into fastboot mode and run 'fastboot oem unlock' on your PC. **DO NOT flash any other sbf**
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Atlas7:
Please in this tread report yours BAD experience on ASUS Transformer Prime!

How to post your experience:

1. Write title where is a problem,damage (Software,Hardware,Bug,...).

2. Write name of problem,damage.

3. Write your system info (Android version,OTA,ROOT/UNROOT)

4. Write decription of problem,damage (photo,video,...).

5. Other.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blazeitup123:
why?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Atlas7:
Because i think asus transformer prime have many problems and now with this tread we can found as problem and look how to resolve,how many people have same problem with prime,all bad things on one place!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wifesabitch:
Just search the forums.

This thread is stupid.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
He means well. I've chatted with him alot. He might not just be aware of all the several threads out there already on issues. He just recently experienced a ghosting or screen burn in on his prime. He made a thread on it.

I wonder if you leave ips+ display on maximum brightness, on a single image or same screen, would increase the chances for ghosting or screen burn in.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cordell507:
look at the first page of general, you can see all the problems, theirs no need for another one of these stupid threads.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Atlas7:
OK! I realized -.-

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PolishPoet:
YES is it! If only those new to this forum would put forth the effort to read what has already been posted. It's all here nothing new.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] combat goofwing:
in settings there seems to be very few menu options and all my web pages are loading in mobile format
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mrevankyle:
you can try ics browser + or to get desktop sites just hit menu then request desktop site
[Eee Pad Transformer General] eminembdg:
Yea they changed it up a bit. In the drop down when you hit the settings button "request desktop site " is right in that list
[Eee Pad Transformer General] combat goofwing:
right got full web pages ,is there an option for the address bar to disappear when you scroll up and down
[Eee Pad Transformer General] baseballfanz:
If you enable "quick control" in Labs, the url bar is hidden.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] combat goofwing:
got that now never used stock browser always used dolphin for pad ,but want to give it a try,so i have deleted the book marks thumb nails i dont want but on the page that shows the bookmark thumb nails hoe do you creat new folders to sort you book marks into catergories

thanks for the help
[Eee Pad Transformer General] AstroTrain:
I am still using dolphin HD, the bookmark swipe layout is the best, was hoping to use chrome but the default text size is too small .

I am assuming Dolphin HD is the stock browser just different layout design because it is behaving almost exactly like the stock browser when u select text etc. Now on ICS it has the magnifying popup same as stock.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] eminembdg:
I dropped dolphin when they were found out to be sharing users usage data
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Quaternary:
It's also possible to enter "about:debug" in the address bar and press enter to enable debug mode, and reveal the debug sub-menu in settings.

There is an option in the debug menu to change the user-agent to desktop. Unfortunately, the debug mode is not persistent; you will have to re-do this after every reboot (maybe even after restarting the browser, sometimes).

Hopefully there will be ROMs, soon, that will enable a persistent browser debug mode (as many did for HC). (I prefer to disable the wide viewport, personally, and as far as I know, ICS Browser+ does not have any similar debug options, otherwise I would already have switched to it.)

(Also, just a passing thought, but something else that surprised me about the default browser in ICS: no list view for bookmarks?! Scrolling through rows and rows of thumbnails, if you have a lot of bookmarks, is very irritating. Such a simple function, why remove it?! ICS Browser+ also lacks this feature, it seems.)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kaijura:
It's cause the stock ICS browser doesn't let you change the useragent by conventional means. You need to be able to change the tags from android > something else.

Need a custom rom like revolver or android revolution, etc where they added features built into the stock browser (this was on HC) everytime.

I haven't updated to ICS yet, but I hope the stock browser is improved. The HC browser was a load of garbage.

Check if Chrome beta is available on market?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] BumRush:
Is there any way to get the "requested desktop site" button to stick? I have to recheck it everytime I go any site. Its really annoying.
[HTC Rezound] psykotikz:
Rezound is coming in tomorrow w/ extended battery and it's very exciting.

I'm not new to roms/mods (my DX has seen it's fair share) But I am new to the whole "unlocked boot loader" goodness =p.

I'm assuming unlocking boot loader, rooting, de-bloating would be my first steps...but after? I truly dislike sense, it looks very tacky IMO.

What would you guys recommend for someone who is coming to this phone for this first time and dislikes sense? I see so many roms in the dev section I'm kind of overwhelmed...
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
Look in the dev section sticky for the list of roms. Then read on each thread to find out about the quirks with each sensless rom. There arent to many senseless roms.