yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
The issue with battery life in the official thread is that 1.) battery life is affected by many variables that have nothing to do with the rom, and 2.) the thread was devolving into a series of posts and arguments about the best way to improve battery life, depreciating the usefulness of the thread for those seeking or reporting accurate information about issues that are directly related to the rom.
[Epic 4G General] nimitz87:
But arguing about what day the freaking calendar starts on is more on topic...

Tired of people commenting just to say something negative or unhelpful.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Ah c'mon there was only like 20 posts arguing about that...LOL.

But on topic here..Alpha 5 with changing i/o scheduler to n.oop and running shadowkernel has gotten me comparable battery life to other ROMs now. Now my phone goes to 100Mhz.
[Epic 4G General] XtaC318:
You can remove exchange.apk by using a terminal emulator or adb.

cd /system/app

rm exchange.apk
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
I got this today on my 1800mah battery. This is syncing exchange, gmail, and Yahoo. I am also using google talk, and have three widgets running.

Everything else is stock except I am using JD with great results. YMMV.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
This is what what I would call decent battery life on cm9

*edit* this is on stock 1 year old 1500mAH battery.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
No, it's obviously not.

Agreed.
[Epic 4G General] brickwall99:
I don't see much of a point to bring up that battery life can be affected by things other than the ROM/Kernel/etc, basically things out of our control. While that may be true... it's pretty obvious when you have great battery life on one ROM/Kernel and horrible battery life on a different ROM/Kernel, and can go right back to the original getting good battery life... that there is a problem with the software, not the hardware.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Having some great battery life :)

Sent From My SPH-D700 Running Android 4.0
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
That's one person's experience though, and you really don't know why that happened. It's merely coincidental evidence. Not everyone has the same experience, so it can't be just the rom. If it were the rom, then everyone using it would have the same issue.

So, some issues, like the led blinking when the battery was low is a legitimate problem with the rom because it affected everyone in the same way. But when I just randomly have a bad battery day, and my settings are the same as they were yesterday, then it probably isn't the rom. And just because I had that bad day right after installing a new rom doesn't mean that there something wrong with the rom. As a matter of fact I would say that some roms are going to use more battery than others, and that's okay. Sometimes you have to give something up to gain what you want.
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
Very well put; in this case the gain is you get to use ICS. A version of android that will NEVER be officially released to this phone.

If you're worried about battery life and you NEED your phone to last all day with your level of useage; you shouldn't use an alpha rom (ANY alpha rom). In an alpha state the devs are more concerned with functionality and stability than optimization.

That being said; optimizations will happen with CM9 but only after the devs are satisfied with the functionality and stability.

just say'n :D
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
well put!!!
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Does anyone know if we're able to disable apps on startup? I've done it before with Super Manager on other ROMs, but it doesn't seem to be working in CM9. Does anyone know if this is just an issue so far with CM9? Or is there another app that might be better?

I have the paid version of ROM Toolbox, but haven't tried that yet to see if it'll work.
[Epic 4G General] nimitz87:
Muuuch better battery life stock kernel again .

About 30 mins of talk and Pandora streaming

Auto brightness

Chad
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Finally drained my battery :)

Sent From My SPH-D700 Running Android 4.0
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
WOW

That HAS to be a record for skreenies in 1 post ;)
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Probably is. I am trying to crash tapatalk.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Almost succeed I can just barely get to the bottom the limit is 20.

Sent From My SPH-D700 Running Android 4.0
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
haha XDA app only supports 20 yet tapa talk allows more???

See if gif works but shout out to XDA
[Epic 4G General] csmartly:
I dont know what de problem. the battery drains very fast. by noon, almost 60% goes. I am ALpha5 and cyanogen kernel. I also removed exchange.apk but no luck. I've Gmail active but nothing else. twitter and facebook are manually updated.
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
Just a thought

a small tid bit of information; on CM9 (because its code is derived from google's source for android 4) the charging indicator turns from red to blue - at 90% - the phone will continue to charge to 100% though if left to charge.

So if you're just seeing the blue light and assuming that the phone is @ 100%; you might want to check what the phone says before unplugging.

This behavior is modified for stock roms released by sprint/samsung. Which is why those ROMS (and those based from them) turn blue at 100%.

I thought this might be contributing to the appearance of bad battery life. Where your phone is < 100% charge and you assume it is at 100%.

Just some food for thought.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
To go along with this is the fact that our batterys being li-ions they discharge the first 10% rapidly...on most phone kernels keep it from reaching 100% or cut charging off to prevent damage to the phone. So if your like " what the hell I just took it off and its at 95" its usually normal. However it continues to drain at that rate you have an issue.

Sent From My SPH-D700 Running Android 4.0
[Epic 4G General] StoneRyno:
I'm trying out a tip I read elsewhere that the interactivex governor improved battery life. I couldn't find info on the governor so I have no idea if it will or if it was a placebo effect to the user. I won't be able to conclude that until I have used it for a week or a little more. To date with CM9 I've seen 18 hours +/- 2 hours. On CM7 and all other custom ROMs I've used before that I would get 24 hours +/- 2 hours. My typical daily use is moderate with 1.5-2 hours screen on time and up to 30-60 minutes of phone calls. I am clueless as to why android OS is now always the most power consuming thing in the battery info when before it was always screen.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
Here's a good read on cpu/io governors: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369817

I've had the best luck so far with smartassv2, but I have considerably more screen time than you, spending a good part of my normal day in excel spreadsheets and accessing the intraweb at work.

And is this the StoneRyno for the webos glory days? If so, it's good to see a familiar face!
[Epic 4G General] StoneRyno:
Thanks for the link. Yes that is me. I still use webOS on my HP touchpad. And plan to return to developing for it once things settle after they complete the roadmap for open source.
[Epic 4G General] amateurhack:
Glad to hear you're still at it.
[Epic 4G General] kobby2k6:
battery 1800mah...mostly music with screen on and checking engadget, tatupu, browser, some games and some calls and text...ymmv...

Stock kernel, auto starts and some apps frozen

P.s last pic is off topic and a 64gb microsd from amazon...my 32 gb is filled...I hope tfe next nexus has a 64gb option...
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Every 32Gb Supported can handle 64Gb they just need to be formatted to fat32 I believe
[Epic 4G General] kobby2k6:
The problem is my epic and my computer couldn't format it due to "exfat" format of the sd card...PC's can't format exfat to fat32 and the epic kept crashing during the formatting process...I had to another epic laying around to confirm that the epic couldn't properly form it...I had to use a friend's htc sensation to format it properly....just a heads up

P.S. I meant to add this pic for my screen on time (4hrs)
[Epic 4G General] :
Never had terrible battery life on any alpha, but after deleting exchange, dspmanager, gallery, Google talk, and Google +, it has been phenomenal. 11 hours and <50% drain. Phone used very frequently, mostly for web browsing, text messages, and taking pictures/video of my new daughter.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Not sure why your having problems. just put sd card in computer>My Computer>SD Card>Right click & Format
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Usually the card is protected from being formatted as was my case still haven't formatted mine because it was "protected"

Sent From My SPH-D700 Running Android 4.0
[Epic 4G General] ashamir:
What are you using instead? Does removing e-mail and the gallery really make a big difference? I am rarely signed into Talk and dont use G+, but my battery drain has been high on CM9 in every alpha version.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
what kind of protect heres the silly protect on the adapter there is a switch and if its up that means its protected and if you slide it down its unprotected.
[Epic 4G General] kobby2k6:
Sorry to continue this off topic subject but the method u mentioned only works with basic micro SD cards up to 32gb...most microsd up to 32gb usually are fat32 and can be easily formatted....the 64gb card is completely different and is "ex fat" file system instead of "fat32"...PCs can only format the 64gb card (with an "ex fat" file system) to "nfts" (normal file system for hard drives) and "ex fat" format which is the default file system for the sandisk 64gb microsd....I tried to format with two epics with cm7 and CM9 and it couldn't format it properly...newer phones like the galaxy SII and HTC sensation can easily format the card but my epic couldn't format it properly (could be the Rom because I didn't try stock gingerbread)....sorry for the long and off topic subject, I just wanted people to know that the sandisk 64gb card worked with our phones after formatting it properly(with an HTC sensation in my case)...
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
my friend has an evo and has a 64GB on fat32, did it through his PC as well as phone and not to mention the EVO is older than are phone by a few months.
[Epic 4G General] :
I use quickpic instead of gallery, and imap rather than exchange for my school email.
[Epic 4G General] mmiller2001:
This may help some or maybe not. I installed autorun manager this morning and I have stock battery.
[Epic 4G General] jtw78:
I've been running some tests on mine and I've found that the WiFi sleep policy has a significant impact on my battery (+/- 6 hours). If the WiFi is set to never turn off when the phone sleeps, then the CPU almost never goes into deep sleep state and my total battery life is about 8.5 hours.

However, if I have the WiFi set to always turn off when the phone sleeps, then my battery life jumps to about 14.5 hours.

It seems like something in the WiFi sleep policy is keeping the phone from deep sleep.
[Epic 4G General] secorrales:
That would probably explain why I only get 6-8 hrs with light use...

How did you change the WiFi settings to do that? Juice Defender?
[Epic 4G General] Zeinzu:
My wifi sleep policy is never and I get 97-98% deep sleep overnight when I'm asleep.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
It's awesome the games look so much better than the prime! :) its super light to... If you want games this is the way to go :)

Now all we need is gehot to put android on it XD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
This is a pointless thread. This is like me saying my Alienware M17x R3 laptop has amazing graphics and games are out of this world or heck my PS3 for that matter. I wouldnt buy a tablet for gaming I doubt many people do that being said I want a PS Vita but I am not interested in any of the current games I will wait for a 9-10 score out of 10 game.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dagrim1:
lol, no sh*t sherlock... I enjoy watching my blurays more on my tv as well, sound is better on the surround set too.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dpwhitty11:
Hey guys, I bought a dedicated gaming handheld that has like 22 buttons, and lol, it's better at gaming than the slab of glass I was using before.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
Lol, I got a vita and a prime. Enjoy both for gaming and both serve their purposes. I love my prime for playing retro nes,snes & n64 games. Especially using the HDMI out. I love my prime!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
I drove my car to work instead of riding my bike its much better at getting me there on time!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PapaSmurf6768:
Sent via Tapatalk on my BAMFed out TBolt
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ajamils:
Exactly. I got Vita at launch and even though I love it, it is cannot replace Prime. Both have their respective pros and cons in regards to gaming.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Lol..he getting flamed left n right. I'm sure the vita is probably better since it is a "Dedicated" gaming system. If i had to choose between one or the other, I'd pick the prime all day. Its a way better value and runs circles around the fits based on all the different things it can do and its features. Plus I haven't seen one vita game yet that looks better than Shadowgun THD or Riptide THD. Plus Sony PS games coming to android anyways. The vita has developers dedicated to only making games. I'm sure once time passes we will also have games that look as good or better than the vita. Specs are similar with the prime being alot more powerful in alot of aspects. Prime is best of both worlds. Plus ill take the larger better quality display of prime over a small 5 in. Anyday. Vita Is a great device. Even considering getting one. But as i think about it more, I can get games just as good on the prime. ANDROID apps n games will sell alot more than vita games. Meaning these games will reach more users or gamers. Alot of people ditching console systems now in favor of mobile gaming on IOS or android.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Erusman:
Couldn't have said it better myself;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
I just picked up a Vita too! Add me up PSN ID: Filth_Flannigan

Yeah, the VITA screen is awesome. They have zero light bleed because of the screen technology. And everything on mine worked as advertised out of the box, even Wifi and GPS on my 3g Model.

It is a great piece of hardware, but it is a dedicated gaming device. The Transformer Prime wears quite a few more hats.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Yo!! Add me! skygunner27

I also got a 3G PS Vita w/32GB Card, Wipeout 2048, UMvC3, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Superstardust Delta(bundle) & Plants vs. Zombies. Right now Bestbuy, Target, Gamestop(Sony Titles Only) & Amazon have a B2G1 Free Vita game sale.

I love my Vita. At times it seems overwhelming with all it can do...lol. I'm really impressed. The ingame 8 ppl voicechat is sick!! I don't think I'll be doing too much gaming on my iPad 3 and TF700t once they arrive. The OLED screen is awesome, Bluetooth & WiFi work perfectly.:D

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I'm going to send you a F request.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] newellj79:
What the hell is this doing anywhere on xda? Did'nt you brick your prime anyways... no need to answer, i don't really care.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
Add me! My PSN is Shor_yken31. I might change it though couldn't think of one when I got my vita RYU from SF came to mind lol. Shoryuken!

I only got Fifa at the moment. Can't wait for MLB the show 12 and a few others.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Nice. I'll add you as soon as I'm done adding music to my Vita.

UMvC3 is awesome on the Vita!! I can't believe I am playing it on a portable in all of it's glory. I just got time to sit down with Uncharted.........AMAZING! Wipeout 2048 is the best portable game graphics wise. The only problem I have is that everyone playing Vita online seem like Pro's...especially in UMvC3...lol.

I'll add you now, this badboy has insane multitasking capabilities. I hope Sony gets Kingdom Rush and Riptide on the Vita. Those are the only 2 games I miss. For gaming on the go, obviously the Vita owns. Sony is spending 50 million on the advertising campaign. I can't wait to get my TF700t w/dock to compliment the gap between my Vita and M18x.

I tried to add you but it says invalid ID.

I found you and sent a f request. Your ID is Shor_yuken31 with a "u". It's a good thing I know Street Fighter;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] almightywhacko:
Really?! Are you f*cking serious? Games look and play better on a dedicated game console than they do on a multipurpose tablet?

Thanks for the revelation!

BTW my Xbox 360 plays games so much better than the Prime, and the controller is so much easier to use than most clunky on-screen controls. You know, just FYI.

:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
There are some people here with too much money and time :P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gerald410:
I love my Prime and Vita:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
My M18x w/2960XM and 580M SLI plays games better than all those consoles and tablets...lol....and my ALX w/990X and 580 SLI plays games better than my M18x..............this could go on forever. Lets keep it DTR/Portable....lol.

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Me too. Add me skygunner27
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Keion:
Obvious troll is obvious.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ickk:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

The psp vita will be a flop.

Just about everyone today owns a smartphone, there's little room for handheld devices outside of that - especially in sony's case where it's completely proprietary. There's little room for development on a new psp. All the people who were hacking it and building custom firmware years ago have since moved on to jailbreaking iphones or developing for android.

The only way sony profits from this is by locking in dedicated titles and forcing you to have to buy their devices in order to play them. Without that, no one would buy these units because if they were available on their phones they'd just buy it for their phone. That beibg said, I feel they'd profit substantially more selling their titles on the android market and building custom phones optimized to play them. Kind of like the xperia play except not so much of a joke.

There is no need for psps & nintendo handhelds unless you're a 7 year old. Sony & nintendo should follow sega's lead by moving their dedicated game developers to android. I'm sure google would be willing to break a deal with them as it would pull in a wide range of customers and both companies would profit from it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Nice attempt to troll a troll thread:p.

The PSP was/is not considered a flop. Did it sell as good as the DS? No. But it is still considered a successful platform.

In Japan the PSP continues to perform well in sales. http://playstationlifestyle.net/201...-steadily-improve-in-japan-psp-game-charts-1/ The only thing that stopped the PSP here in the states is piracy. http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/14/yoshida-plays-down-lackluster-vita-sales-in-japan-with-psp-sales/ , http://www.qj.net/ps-vita/news/japanese-vita-performance-is-matter-of-perception-says-tretton.html , http://www.qj.net/ps-vita/news/japanese-vita-performance-is-matter-of-perception-says-tretton.html , http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/news...rate-usd22bn-in-hardware-sales-this-year.html

Yes things are different this time. What you didn't post in addition to no facts or links is that the Vita has a 50 million dollar launch capaign behind it that the PSP didn't have. http://www.qj.net/ps-vita/news/sony-dropping-50-mil-on-vita-marketing.html If you think Sony is going to spend 50 million in advertising alone and not do what it takes to make the Vita platform successful, then you need to wake up. Only now is the PS3 considered successful after all these years/marketing dollars. I guarantee you that the Vita will outsell your TF201. The PS Vita costs 159.00USD to maunfacture. How much does the 199.98USD+ Prime over 299.99USD 3G PS Vita cost to manufacture?

The hardware in the Vita is comparable to todays(Tegra 3) mobile SoC's. I might as well post the specs now so I don't have to later.

CPU

ARM® Cortex™- A9 core (4 core)

GPU

SGX543MP4+

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-ngp-processor-performance-6287063

http://egglets.com/news/2011/01/28/...-chipsets-series5xt-sgxmp-are-multi-core-sgx/

External Dimensions

Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth)

(tentative, excludes largest projection)

Screen (Touch Screen)

5 inches (16:9), 960 x 544, Approx. 16 million colors, OLED

Multi touch screen (capacitive type)

Rear Touch Pad

Multi touch pad (capacitive type)

Cameras

Front camera, Rear camera

Sound

Built-in stereo speakers

Built-in microphone

Sensors

Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope,

three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass

Location

Built-in GPS

Wi-Fi location service support

Keys / Switches

PS button

Power button

Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left)

Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square)

Shoulder buttons (Right/Left)

Right stick, Left stick

START button, SELECT button

Volume buttons (+/-)

Wireless Communications

Mobile network connectivity (3G)

IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi)(Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode)

Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR (A2DP/AVRCP/HSP)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bender B. Rodgriguez:
I can't believe that no one has mentioned the fact that the vita puts the TFP's wifi to shame as well. As in it actually works more than 7 feet away from the router.

Sent via smoke signal
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ickk:
There are plenty of features the prime has that the psp doesn't. Running on android means there's an app market. PSP couldn't even launch with a facebook app. All sony has is companies like square enix that are willing to drive themselves into the ground for sony's garbage devices.

3g support doesn't bother me in the slightest, I have a 4g hotspot that gives hispeed internet to ALL my devices on the go.

My wifi works, my gps works. I have an operating system that receives developer support, a large selection of apps and games that don't cost $30 a peice, the ability to overclock and use my device as a functioning computer... The psp is nothing more than a toy. Deal with it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I

didn't

create this thread/didn't come here to flame the Prime. A working Prime is still awesome in it's own right, regardless of how sick the PS Vita is, in it's respective market. The PS Vita is very powerful and shares a lot of similarities/technology with the Tegra 3 SoC. It(Vita) also works as advertised. Which is

always

a Pro in my book.

Both of these devices have similar features but are completely in different markets.

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Way to go dumbass!! Of course the Android OS does more than the Vita OS....lol. No one said it didn't. I have the Facebook app up and running. I did read that some users had problems and that the app was removed.

What about the Prime's problems?

Did you forget about those? Most of those problems are still ongoing...............December.................................January................................February................................still;)

Obviously the Vita specs upset you. This thread probably shouldn't have been created in the ATP thread...lol.

If the Vita isn't for you

I believe the OP created this thread as a distraction for TF201 owners who have found their Prime experience less than sub -par...until the TF700t arrives.