yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kit:
The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.

Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out

"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the

memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"

I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ph00ny:
Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2

OMAP was the SoC that Google chose

It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation

This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power

I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).

I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crossover37:
Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.

I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.

Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kit:
I see log made out like dual chan mem was something new to the omap4 lol =_=

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I still find it strange to believe that google engineers who built the os chose the wrong soc and forum users understand better what should have been used.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Exynos doesn't work on LTE. Google had plans to bring it to GSM and LTE users alike. Not hard to understand at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
You have checked some reviews before buying GN? You knew it has a bit slower GPU and much higher resolution, right? Then I don't get what do you want. Get some decent launcher (I use Adw Launcher Ex), flash CM9, don't be installing gazillion on apps + widgets and you phone will be as smooth as mine is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
Google chose the TI OMAP for 3 reasons:

1. It is the most OPEN and AVAILABLE SOC, TI has no problem giving us proprietary drivers/manuals.

2. TI OMAP has the FASTEST memory bandwidth in the industry, only to be SLIGHTLY matched by the Exynos.

3. The TI OMAP supports IVA, a HD video decoder, used today to process our beautiful 720p display. Fastest in the industry.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Stadsport:
I like the part where you complain about the hardware, and then proceed to give an example citing software as the source for any (perceived) lag.

Don't forget that the Exynos doesn't support LTE!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] P500:
Another whine-boy thread.

Please research about the phone BEFORE you buy it. And if you don't like it, sell it, give it back and such. But please, DON'T complain in the forums about you not being satisfied. We are NOT Google, nor Samsung, nor your support, nor your please-tell-me-the-story-of-your-life book.

Google chose the Hardware and that's it. They researched 10000 times more than you about that. For Christ's sake we can't help you kiddies with your premature problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
I don't think the fact that Exynos doesn't support LTE had anything to really do with the decision though, it was hard enough for Google to get it on Verizon, if that was even their choice to begin with...but still the point is, the TI OMAP SERIES of processors are much more versatile and flexible, they are the future, similar to how Snapdragon took over the Mobile industry with the start of the Nexus One. I respect the Exynos and the accompanied GPU and commend them for it, it does have superior gfx performance, but the OMAP has what Google is looking for.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aspot72:
Well... The OP must screwed up the GNex with flashing. I am back to stock 4.0.2. Added black wallpaper, got rid of redundant or rarely used apps, used TiB to froze some bloatware (don't delete as they are built in apps and can affect future updates).

And using Nova Launcher set only 3 homescreens with 3x3 grid. The GNex is the best so far...

I experienced in the past, that too many flashing in short period has bad effect on phone.

(Unless you have 2 devices : 1 for daily use and other for flashing/experimenting).

Imo to properly test an ROM you need 3-5 days to use it and check important parameters (signal, battery drain etc).

Its totally pointless to flash different ROM everyday as it doesn't gives you enough time for propper testing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

Speed differences on these smartphones, including the iCrap, are miniscule at best. I mean if a page or screen loads a millisecond faster on one and not the other does it really make a difference?

Its a smartphone for crying out loud. You can not do things as fast as you can on a desktop, its simply impossible. Its the user that is the slowest thing on a cell phone, not the phone itself. Our fingers are just too big to do anything quickly.

For a millisecond or nanosecond response times, I'll keep my Nexus. You others who think the SGSII is faster can wait on Samsung for official ICS or Developers to build it based on Google's release. That in essence is lag time no ROM/Processor will ever cure. :)

And that is worth much more than a millisecond to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barrist:
the notification led + higher res screen win it for me, coming from the SGS2 to the Gnex. oh and not to mention the GS2 feels like a 5 dollar plastic toy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cablemike01:
I have lag issues with the x d a app also. I believe it's not compatible with ice cream sandwich because I get the same problem on my transformer with the ice cream sandwich.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tcchuin:
The newer gs2 in Malaysia are actually using same processor as the galaxy Nexus... Not sure why they did that
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CB620:
I don't know what your doing. My nexus doesn't lag :-P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
I can confirm some stuttering in some areas like scrolling lots of text. Here's what puts me at ease:

I came from a G2x Tegra 2 and a Asus Transformer Tegra 2. Both screamed in performance. Sold the G2x for the Nexus. Transformer got updated officially a few days ago. I see the same issues such as laggy live wall papers and stuttering.

This means the issue isn't the chip set but rather because we're on a new OS build that still needs some bolts tightened.

This means I'm confident that the SGSII will experience all the same woes that we do.

Problem is your comparing 2 different beasts with OS and Resolution. If/when the SGSII gets an official update then we can more accurately compare them.

What this means to me is that; just as gingerbread was buggy and slow at first, it turned out pretty slick and smooth afterwards. I remember people wanting to flash back to Froyo because it was so slow and laggy. ICS will be no different.

ICS was a large rewrite and largely based off honeycomb. Very different from the phone-only GB build your comparing this to.

EXT LTE Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.4

Asus Transformer - ICS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arzbhatia:
Mine doesn't lag too :\

I'm on AOKP.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
This is supposed to happen on March 1 the last I heard. There have been ~9 leaked Samsung ICS builds, each with its own set of bugs, and each not resembling ICS proper in any way, thanks to the Touchwiz. What worked in one build, didn't in the next, etc... CM9 for the SGSII was relying on the leaked kernels, but that will change when Samdung releases kernel source, although CM are/were reverse engineering (?) a kernel IIRC.

I'll flash the first official Samsung build and do a brief side by side, won't be scientific in any way and I'm already declaring the GN the winner. Based on all of the previous leaked builds however I'm sure the official release will have it's own bug set.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MrPhilo:
Try Popcornkernel, defiantly an underrated kernel compared to LeanKernel and franco. Performs way better and battery life is on par.

350 - 1200Mhz - Aggressive kernel.

Watch your nexus fly, trust me, try it, it won't hurt!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Another SGSII refugee I see ;)

I'm on nightlies now, so I usually stick to the CM kernels.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MistaBishi:
SGS II refugees! :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
No one has had it tougher than us :what:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thejron:
Thinking about making this switch myself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
I made the switch from a gs2 and it was awesome... but the nexus is "awesomer" lol

We're comparing the two best smart phones on the market..

Sent from my francoPhone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
Well considering the fact that I moved from a Galaxy S II to this phone...and they both feel the same, in terms of speed, I'd have to say you're lying.

I literally have the GSII sitting next to me, 2ft from my Nexus. Scrolling, flicking, and using apps all feel the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
The only issue I see here is the assumption of which SGSII devices your comparing it to the Nexus. Also which Nexus are you referring too because the Verion LTE is built different and may or may not have affected performance.

Using the LTE model, its smooth for the most part but scrolling widgets, live wallpapers, and some apps exhibit stutter that my G2x and Transformer didn't experience on previous builds.

The assumption is also about the Exynos SGSII models vs the snapdragon models.

EXT LTE Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.4

Asus Transformer - ICS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
So you subjectively say the phone is slower and make a thread title throwing every nexus into a group as slower than the SGSII? Makes sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MrPhilo:
Ahaha! I loved my Galaxy S2, but Galaxy Nexus screen and camera speed is the best:) not to mention the Pure ICS. But im a phone addict, so the new phones like HTC One S (Tegra 3) or any other phone coming out is most likely to be my next phone.

Hopefully 'Atrix 3' in my sig comes out in timeee, best phone plus battery! but I still love galaxy nexus:))
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I don't know about ya'll but maybe the Exynos is faster. But i can tell you this for sure. I'll take a nexus over gs2 for the sound quality any day. And then some. Goes back to jamming out.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IINexusII:
i have also switched to the GN from the SII since January, and honestly, they both feel the same. playing the same games, and even normal things like downloading and installing 5-6 apps at once on the market is pretty much the same with side by side comparisons. but the advantage i have is that beautiful 720p display and the lovely led notification (something i missed since my Nokia N900 :P)...

and i have ICS fully working since i turned the phone on. something that the SII still doesn't have yet, and its been almost 5 months!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GaelForce:
I agree, I bench marked mine with no extra apps, just aokp 26 and my score was lower than the kindle fire.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lukesky:
totally agree. I think the OP's got a lemon or screwed up his phone some how. I find my nexus plenty fast.. so fast till I get by with Conservative gov and set the max speed to 1ghz only
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TwilightSparkle:
What are people doing with their phones that requires insane processor speeds? Cracking govt databases with l33t haxor skillz, or photoshopping 3d dicks into a GUI interface?

Sage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Malarie:
I would like to see your quadrant score. The top results is of my aokp ms3 Franco kernel enabled gnex GSM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Slow

I agree with the OP, my Galaxy Nexus lags in some aspects.

For instance, in the Settings app I don't understand why when I press a setting, the animation that fades from blue is so slow and the particular settings menu opens slowly.

App drawer is choppy and not as smooth as can be when launching it.

App switching isn't always fastest either.

I've noticed this on Stock ROM and AOKP maguro build 25 :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crossover37:
Flash Apex 1.02. Do a factory reset and clear all cache. I did this and my phone is much faster and a lot more smooth. It made me be more happy with my switch from the GSII to my Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leelaa:
The nex is fine u just need the right rom and kernel, i an udibg build 26(aokp) and franco 18.5 and my phone flies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If I had a dime for every i/o inflated Quadrant I have seen as evidence of performance...it would pay for lunch over the next three years.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Still jamming out with my nexus while op is comparing wee wee sizes.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
But higher quadrant scores make's my phone faster!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonathan3579:
Taping my phone to a homemade rocket makes mine faster. In fact, quadrant doesn't even run anymore; it said it's too fast. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Man I bet you if it could read your speed you would get quad scores of over 9000....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Ever notice that the guys who drive lifted F350's with 42" tires are generally short? I wonder what someone with a highly modified Quadrant score looks like or can a similar parallel be made?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] W3BSurfer:
Would u rather have a fast phone with 0% battery?

Understand that its still a phone. If u want to play ur 3D games then either get a console or a pc with Nvidia 590 GTX. I remember posting a similar reply to some troll in the Atrix forum. OP was also complaining about how slow the Atrix was.

Try different roms/kernels..test it out. Let the battery manufacturer catch up first then we can start OC'ing until we hit 2.0Ghz.

I suggest wait for 2015 when they release a 5.0Ghz/590GTX SLI phone with 80,000mah battery. :rolleyes:

Goodluck!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonathan3579:
I guess we won't know until the quadrant dev updates the app to be compatible with my rocket-powered Nexus. Maybe I'll go make a thread on how hard it is to come by Nexus fuel. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
One must also understand that when comparing apps that you played on your SGSII they most likely were optimised for Gingerbread and thus may "feel" faster because it was made before ICS even came out.

If ICS is significantly different under the hood, it's within the realm of possibility that the app is running in a form of compatibility that may make you think the phone is slower. When actually it's handling more processes than your old phone because the app is not optimised for ICS.

When the app, or newer apps are created optimised for ICS, they may not even run on gingerbread, and thus you'll be begging Samsung for an update because that app is "just so cool"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
At the end of the day this can go back and forth.

I think most of us came to the Nexus because we were disappointed in the "support" given by the branded phones Samsung and others provided.

I came from the original SGS and it never went past 2.3.3 officially.

But now, I'll be ahead of the pack, instead of looking at people ahead of me.

You may have other feelings on this, but to me, that's what this phone is all about. Nanoseconds are of no importance, and quadrant scores mean nothing to me as well. The phone works just the way I like it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
Isn't higher IO a benefit though?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mr mystery:
I just made the move yesterday from the GS2 to the GN, from what i can see based on the leaked builds for the GS2 I agree with previous posters, it will suffer the same things the GN does. And battery life on the GS2 running ICS was bad. Will have to wait for the official but that's what I see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dario3040:
The Mali 400 MP4 isn't better than the SGX 540 at all, the performance depends on the workload, and as of now the benchmarks prefer other GPU's.

But Google were smart and went with the OMAP 4460 for many reasons.

1. The IVA-HD Media accelerator

2. The GPU is much more efficient thanks to TBDR.

3. The CPU was as good as it could be in 2011.

4. Because of the other chips that came on the SoC, for example the face detector chip.

Another thing many fail to realize is that Google put a lot of work into the small details of the phone, something many other manufacturers don't.

Overall I'm happy with the phone, and that's all that matters to me.

The GN will be the best phone until the next Nexus arrives... unless the next Nexus is from LG of course...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If the current i/o isn't a bottleneck, then grossly inflating it does nothing but cheat benchmarks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ajftl:
Not mine. Not sure what's wrong with urs. And I had the gs2 so I know how fast is it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Why not make your own modified test bed? Yours can be the only one with 0-60 benchmarks. Would be the envy of us all.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Malarie:
Did you overclock? I have AOKP MS3 and Kernel Franco 3.08 nightly 18.4 and you have like 700 more points on your score.

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Suggest a better perfo tool or stop *****ing.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Roach2010:
Download

Team Eos TF101 Preview

Features

AOSP 4.0.3 based rom

Busybox

Enable / Disable stock ICS status bar settings

Enable / Disable EOS ics status bar settings

Enable / Disable Battery percentage text in the status bar

Enable / Disable battery icon in the status bar

Enable / Disable rotation on the lockscreen

Enable / Disable the automatic brightness to decrease the brightness level

Define Rotation angles (Full, 90 Deg, 180 Deg, 270 Deg)

Installation

1. Copy ROM to CWM Recovery install folder

2. Boot into clockworkmod recovery

3. Install the ROM

4. Connect to wifi

5. Install gapps from here

Rom

http://git.teameos.org/

http://review.teameos.org/
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Roach2010:
This shouldn't replace your daily rom and is only for preview purposes.

Some known issues:

Reboot menu options don't work properly

Selecting storage in settings causes crash

To add removable media you must manually create the folder in Removable and reinsert your device. i.e MicroSD / USBDisk1 / USBDisk2 / SDCard

Some features carried over from the Xoom build do not function i.e. Reboot to bootloader and Charging Light (The TF101 has no charging light on the tablet)

Apologies for the download link. I haven't setup my ftp sites yet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] abhayy:
Is face unlock enabled?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] DatDude123:
SL101 compatible?

D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] returntrip:
Welcome back Roach!! Will try your ROM tomorrow...
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Roach2010:
Nope, that is on my todo list.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Roach2010:
Not at the moment but it's possible in the future.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] TonyCubed:
When do you think we'll see 4.0.4 based ROMs?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] zephiK:
4.0.4 is not in AOSP repos. Glad to see Roach is back in business in the TF101 development system. Looking forward to this :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] abhayy:
Thanks. And does it have a oc kernel?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] dangambino:
Goo is fc. Anyway to get gapps. Fastest ics yet

Edit, nvmnd. It went. Dl ing now. Awesome.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] daxtsu:
No, no ICS roms can have an OC kernel yet as ASUS haven't released the kernel source code for ICS on TF101 yet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] arberthebarber:
Yes thanks faceunlock im so adhd with it
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] daniel9522:
can you please tell us what does not work
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Alex9090:
Post number 2.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Alex9090:
But it works already..

Sent from samsung vibrant
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ValenteL:
Preview?

Thanks for this pure ICS Rom Team Eos.

It works, i like it, and not have mixture HC/ICS like that based on Asus Rom's.

I wait for a good working of storage for to be a daily rom.

For now I made this:

Opened a terminal emulator app:

su

mkdir /Removable/MicroSD

mkdir /Removable/SD (keyboard)

mkdir /Removable/USBdisk1

mkdir /Removable/USBdisk2

Work well until next reboot

I wait the fix.

Thanks

EDIT: Good, the Camera photo and video work very well!!!

============
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] dangambino:
I'm digging this over the cm9 Lang right now. Though i m sure its based off it. I like the battery ℅, and speed

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Any place to find night lies. Also is this for epic4g' or just a pic in op
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] emmur0:
Have a pint on me. This is already extremely better than the HC/ICS combo Asus has going on. Excited to see the development on this.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pashinator:
view the cm9 sources from androidroot.mobi to find some of the fixes. e.g. storage
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ValenteL:
oh oh I like this words... "Asus HC/ICS combo"

I prefer the pure ICS also.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] will8578:
im sorry to clutter, but this rom is already great, some preview, it saves me having to uninstall tons off useless apps, also the goo inside me app is really good, already some lovely tweaks :-) :-)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Phi*:
would it be possible to build in onskreen's cornerstone into this? that would make my already great tf awesomer :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] thebadfrog:
We all need to get someone to build a version will cornerstone but at this point I suspect all the devs are going to be trying to get the base rom 100% before attempting framework changes like that. I have tried it on the Touchpad and its quite nice bug still buggy so lets give the devs some time to stablize the rom before we ask for more.

EDIT: A roachy birdie informed me that onskreen is in the works so I should shut up and mind my own damn business :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] RaymanFX:
Hands down.

Hi Roach 2010,

First of all, thanks for your impressive work once again !

Glad to see you doing kind of dev stuff again here :)

Also, I flashed both, CM9 an EOS and I can definately say : EOS is MUCH nicer to me ! Face unlock works just fine, performance is 10 times better than ASUS' ICS and 2 times faster than CM9 kang (from my personal testings and subjective impressions :P)

Glad to have you as kind of an "official" Team EOS rom maintainer for our TF101.

And to all of you eagerly waiting for cornerstone, Roach2010's GitHub says he forked cornerstone into his git ;) . So anyways, he'll supply us with whatever he does atm, GREAT WORK!

I myself have cornerstone up and running as I write, but it's stuck in portrait mode and seems a bit buggy. Sadly I don't know how to fix bugs ...
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] solarnz:
Yes, we do have cornerstone builds.

These are seperate from the normal builds as cornerstone introduces a wide range of undesirable bugs at the moment.

Look out for the new builds of EOS for the tf101 soon.

-- solarnz,

Lead developer of Team Eos
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] senna29:
Just updated to the third nightly. Amazing! MicroSD mounts on boot, faceunlock works. Fast and smooth!

Keep up good work!

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