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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sanroy24:
So did you try out the 2.1a charger yet?? im having the same issue, was plannin on buying this http://e-dailybargain.com/kensington-powerbolt-micro-car-charger-p-12843.html?zenid=a2312f0658cc673016330653787ee9b6
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
I'm going to try the charger on my way back home from Green Bay today. Its a good 2 hours ride and ill use GPS and stream music just like I did on the way here. Ill report back with the results.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ngambek2003:
I'm using Samsung's official galaxy note car dock. Works fine for me. Doesn't lose charge while using GPS, paying music, etc. It does actually charge it up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Id buy one of those if t would work with a case on. I wonder if there are ant specs for.that dock online that would elude to the power output. I see the.home charger is only only a 1A.

I wonder if it could be the cable too?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
Yes, the Motorola brand microusb charger. The one with the blue round light on it. Its confirmed to have a shorted middle pair, telling the phone it's a wall charger.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] KLLSWITCH:
that makes me LOL return the note you'll be happier with the iphone and the battery life it will give you
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] s1mpd1ddy:
I have one of those for my atrix. Got it off amazon. Charges awesomely well

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Nah. Id rather stay here and make you lol..... ;-)

Thanks for the advice though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Ill look into that then. I'm going to try my "solution" first and see what I get.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] KLLSWITCH:
i think it would be awesome if you stayed but fact is that android does not get the same battery life you will with the iphone but with android there are many ways you can get close to it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] big samm:
I too uses a 2.1a car charger... Many times when i use gps on the note my battery always shows 100% when im done using it... I don't stream music at the same time because my ipod touch does the job for music.

A 2.1 charger should do the job of keeping your phone charged or charging while using it.

Sent from my SGH-I717M
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] davidusr:
Ditto!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] StarLog:
I run the same thing WAZE and A OK Radio, using a standard car charger, I have had no loss of battery, in fact, if I go into the car with 80% battery by the time I get home, it is 89% about 40 minutes drive time.

Must be your charger that is defective, or does not have the correct pins shorted as mentioned earlier in the thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Ok so 1 hour and 45 minutes on a 2.1A charger streaming from pandora and using GPS/ Waze I LOST %3 charge. So apparently the 2.1A charger will still not charge while in use. much better than standard 1A charger but not enough. I guess its time to test out the Motorola made one.

OR, CONSIDERING its an issue with pin configuration, ill try the 2.1A with the Samsung supplied charging cable from the home charger.

Off to do more testing!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
Another option would be to strip part of a USB cable and shorting the middle wires if you want cheaper.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Ok so I LOST %11 in 45 Minutes using the 2.1A adapter with the Samsung cable. I dunno what to make of all this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Well. I was charged to %100 and ran an hour and 40 minutes from Wisconsin to Illinois with the 2.1A adapter and the Belkin cable. I was using Waze GPS, screen on at the lowest setting, streaming Pandora over Bluetooth and lost %9 charge. Using the Samsung cable Also netted a loss. The only thing now is to find a Motorola car charger locally to test it. I can't believe that so far, there's no way to at very minimum keep the same charge status yet alone actually charge this thing while its in use. Laptops do. Tablets do. Most other phones out there do.

Something must be wrong!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] big samm:
Did you try using Google maps instead of waze and stream pandora at the same time to see if your battery still drains while charging?

Sent from my SGH-I717M
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Yes. I used Navigator with the same results.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tbran:
Had the same problem and bought the Moto "rapid-rate" charger everyone is mentioning.

I've had it 3 days and safe to say...It works! No more negative charging!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S5Q9CA?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1

Sent via Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy Note™ SGH-I717
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
So your phone with the Motorola charger will not only stay charged but will actually charge fully while you use it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] epi117:
Thanks for info, got two!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] amcl:
Just got one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Aerials:
It's been the best microUSB car charger that I have owned. It always efficiently charged my previous phones that had microUSB port.

And it was a nice bonus to have the blue lighting too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
It's not the Samsung cable that has the data pins shorted, it's the wall charger. You either need to short the data pins/wires or you need to buy a car charger that already has them shorted like the Motorola or, I believe, the att one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Thanks. Between this topic and the few others, I'm finally getting an understanding as to how this all works.Now to get that Motorola charger and hopefully end this issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
You could also just look up your route ahead of time and leave another distraction out of your driving, all while saving battery.

Also, I'm not sure if the note is anything like the Infuse, but the Infuse had a software issue in addition to being picky about cables. It seemed the software issue was deep rooted and not easily changed, but limited charging to 1A; effectively rendering any "fast chargers" useless even if they put out more amps. It seems as if the Note is also picky about having the shorted cable to allow charging up to 1A, but I'm guessing it's also capped at 1. To the OP, you were probably draining because the car chargers weren't shorted properly, and you weren't near 1A. I doubt the moto charger will charge it any faster, but it will probably have 1A, and should stop the drain at least.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Yeah I'm not looking for faster just to charge while in use. I sure hope it's not an issue I can't overcome.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] greyhulk:
This has been a problem as far back as the Droid X. I bought one of the Motorola rapid car chargers and never had an issue. It works just as well for the Note.

I did notice that this phone requires a special charger to charge correctly. With any other cable other than the one it came with, the phone thinks it's plugged into a USB port and charges at a super slow rate. I'm sure the same goes for the car charger.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
What I was implying is that in order to solve your problem, you would need to do one of two things...increase your charging input...or decrease your power usage. It's pretty simple. The reason you are seeing the drain is because currently your power consumption is much higher than your charging gain. So what I suggested is making sure that you have a car charger that is putting ut at least 1A, because that's the most Samsung phones can take due to software. If you still have battery drain, then you're going to have to cut back your consumption.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] droe411:
I don't think it os a problem with the charger. Samsung has had a few phones out that take forever to charge. There is something about the phone that will only let it take in so much to charge. My wife phone charges in half the time as my sgs2. Look through a few forums like the sgs2 or infuse you will see.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] canecbr600:
OK guys listen, increasing ur charge current won't do anything! U could have a 50000000amp charger and it won't charge faster! The phone pulls the charge it needs, the charger doesn't push it to the phone. Anything over a 1amp charger isn't needed. U can use bigger, there just isn't any benefit! Without the right charger like the moto rapid, the phone will only charge at the 500ma rate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
It will always take longer to charge a bigger battery at the same rate. The note's stock battery is 2500mAh, so it will take longer.

Also, the phone will stop charging once that battery reaches full capacity (somewhere around 4.2V), and will start draining from there. If you plug it in at night, as I do, it will leave you with about 95% charge in the morning. Not really a big deal, and if it is, unplug it and plug it back in before you do your morning business. Wait... that would defeat the purpose of owning this phone... before you get in the shower :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
That's what I was trying to explain...guess you didn't catch that? My suggestion to him was to make sure he had a charger that supplied at least 1A, because that is all Samsung phones can pull. I suspected that whatever car charger he was using wasn't supplying the full 1A, so he will either have to short a cable as others have instructed, or find a Samsung charger that already has the shorted wires. And if he still experienced drain after making sure his phone is receiving 1A, to cut back on his usage. Did you not read my post? Is that overrated now? Because I thought that I've made it pretty clear in my last two that it doesn't matter the amperage once its higher than 1A. Maybe I'm not clear enough?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
Still won't pull 1A unless the data pins are shorted. If they aren't, then 440mA or something max.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Uh, exactly what I said. He needs to make sure he has a charger that gives at least 1A, and that it is shorted properly so that the phone allows itself to draw 1A. I have stated this in my last few posts now...?

Please, read my post and understand it before you counter it. My last posts have agreed with you and the other that try to say I said something wrong.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lastdeadmouse:
Not necessarily countering.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Well I tried this adapter from Motorola and STILL discharges when used with GPS and streaming music.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] robstunner:
I'm using OEM car dock and doesn't discharge. Or at least I can't notice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Try running GPS, streaming music at the same time while the screen is on the lowest setting.

Streaming, not local playing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] davidusr:
Noticed this morning I lost 4% on my 15 min drive to work. I was streaming TuneIn Radio while mounted in the OEM car DOCK. Strange cause I don't usually LOOSE charge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] robstunner:
Very odd. I drove to the grocery store today with the car dock on with Bluetooth connected to my headunit and playing Pandora and I gained 4% driving 15 minutes. OEM Samsung dock and charger on tcp v1 rom and stock kernel.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
A/C is showing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
I should have to use an iphone to run these apps. Regardless of screen size. Plus, I just left my iphone for this rig.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Everyone so far claims that in the OEM dock they are fine. But, I still cant see how as I'm giving it all she's got!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
I have a Rocketfish car charger. Used it today, no discharge while using Navigation and driving in and out of LTE coverage in Chicago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] davidusr:
Should have mentioned earlier... I'm Using TPC v2 with DaG's OC kernel at 1.8
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
I know you're having issues, but you also are the person who is pushing their device the most while on the car charger out of anybody here. Do you use your navigation everywhere you go? I mean, I know you're using it to test out this dilemma, but once you pass the honeymoon stage of owning your Note and get into normal everyday usage, are you really going to be using navigation every single time you get in the car? No offense, but I hope you don't need it everywhere you go. When you actually need to use it, maybe the battery drain is just something you have to deal with. You could also try using the actual radio in your car so you don't have multiple applications using data simultaneously.

I know that with the network speeds of today, and everything else that other devices may be able to do without losing charge, that you may be a bit frustrated, but look at the bigger picture. You're using one device, with a huge, bright, high resolution display, to show realtime navigation and stream music, while driving in your car. That uses a lot of data, and with how big the Note's screen is, that is a massive power draw. But think about it. You are able to do so many things simultaneously in your car from one device. That's quite a feat of technology if you ask me. Think about the development of technology that had to go into the network and your phone to make something like this capable. You're taking these luxuries for granted, and getting upset with a device that's doing something that was unthinkable not all that long ago. Are you really in your car a majority of your life? I assume not, unless you're a delivery driver or transport trucker, so enjoy this awesome device, and quit worrying about your battery percentage so goddamn much. Bring a charger, and charge your Note when you get to your destination if it really matters that much.

Sorry for the negative tone, but I feel like this thread has been dragged out, and you have had a negative tone the whole time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] srtpusher:
The premium (the one with the extra USB port on top) or the regular one?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] swissross:
What about a power inverter such as the Tripp Lite PV150 ? That and just use your regular AC charger...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] big samm:
Same here that rocketfish charger is powerful!

Sent from my SGH-I717M
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] big samm:
Im using the one with the usb port on top... 2A

Sent from my SGH-I717M
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Plainly put: ill say it again. I should not have to limit the use of the phone to accomodate for a lack of charging. That's like saying you bought a laptop but you're using it too much so its not going to charge. Let me ask you this: do you own anything that doesn't charge while its on a charger and in use? I can appreciate your ideas on how to use my ohobe less. And if I cared to use it less, id own a flip phone. I replaced my iphone with this one hoping it'd make the grade. I never had this issue with my iphone nor any phone previous. I understand its big and bright hence why my brightness is set to absolute minimum. Maybe I'm alone in this mission but as you can plainly see, I'm not. My quest is to seek resolution for this issue so yat others may feel comfortable knowing their device that already gets crappy mileage in the battery life realm, won't be DOA when they gte ti their destination.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
It has the extra USB port, but I don't use that one. Just using the regular coil cord connection. I should state that I haven't tested while streaming over an extended period of time, but the little time I have has no discharge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
So far, 20 minutes, Tune In Radio, earbuds (more power than BT if I remember correctly), Navigation and Brightness just a sliver below half. No discharge, no charge. Still at 99% from when I plugged it in.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dakleenupman:
Maybe you have found another charger that will work as well as the Motorola!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
Only downside is the Rocketfish one is about $26 or so. I needed one when my Infuse would not charge half the time, it was my last attempt and worked out for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] OkNewMedia:
get the car charger that is sold at AT&T corporate stores. It is designed for quick charging, and should solve the problem. I have experienced the slow charging problem with several after market car chargers. The only one thing that has worked better than the AT&T branded car charger, is buying a power inverter, and plugging in the provided OEM charger.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] khaytsus:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Rapi...0Y/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1323226000&sr=8-17

I bought 3 a year or so ago, one for me, wife, backup. :) Work great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] BigBrotherMotown:
I have 2 of those chargers...i never leave home without them....they DO INDEED charge much faster and because the power is coming from the alternator, the faster you drive, THE FASTER IT CHARGES...

The cheapest I have been able to find them is here

http://www.all4cellular.com/motorola-micro-usb-car-charger-spn5400.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] over2land:
Wow. I have appreciated this thread from the start. Unless you drive and only drive from home to work and back, or are living in the same place for 20 years, GPS is almost needed. If not, then you are printing mapquest to find where you need to go. There are so many other jobs and lifestyles that require a navigation it isn't funny.

I don't even stream audio, but I still appreciate the feedback in this thread. Honestly, unless you never try anything new, or go anywhere new, I don't see how you wouldn't be interested in the results here.

Sorry for the negative tone, but if you don't like the thread, don't click on it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] alexige:
My job basically requires me to drop what I'm doing grab an address and leave. My cappy sucked at fulfilling a need for spontaneous Navigation. The Notes 10s and continuous lock is sooo nice its like a godsend compared to the Captivate. Actually it helped me out quite well today. I have been worried about the drain on this phone and my previous one since I lost my sister in a mall parking garage and both our phones died. I imediatley put a cigarette lighter usb charger and cable in my glove box when I got home. So having a quick charger in the car is great. I bought the Motorola one from Amazon and conveniently had a gift card on my account which made the purchase free.

Honestly guys its $11.20 shipped, get the charger simply for the quick charge convenience
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] yiannisthegreek:
Hi All,

For ALL my Canadian brethren here in the wonderful world of Galaxy Tab goodness, I wish to advise you (some of you may already know) that we are essentially being LIED to by Rogers (and other Canadian carriers) and our devices are NOT true 4G (LTE) devices but are really GLORIFIED 3G/3.5G units.

See the attached pics and you will see that my box for my tab CLEARLY states that it is a 4G Tablet but again I repeat... IT IS NOT!!!

I don't believe that we here in Canada actually have a true 4G / LTE provider and as such Rogers, Bell and Telus have been marketing 3.5G HSPA+ (21+Mbps) Devices as 4G which is unfortunately just NOT true considering that REAL 4g / LTE devices are capable of upwards of 75+ Mbps.

I write this as I wish to help ensure that people who are trying to ROOT and flash new ROMS are NOT using the wrong files and thus BRICKING there new toys!!!

Please ensure that you follow the steps / guides for the 3G units when ROOTING, FLASHING, etc and you will be fine (as long as you read the instructions and know what you are doing).

Please MOD... Make this STICKY!!!

Thanks...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] djdanska:
Nothing new. The t-mobile usa tab 10.1 is advertised as 4g and is HSPA+ 42Mb. 7500 roms still work with it. (Im using it now. Only difference between tmobile stock rom and others is tmo shows 4g while others shows H)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] yiannisthegreek:
Yup... Rogers stock ROM also showed as 4G but I have since flashed to AOKP and it now shows as H as well...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kaiser_tytnii:
Rogers has never ONLY called LTE as "4G", "4G" under the "older" definition as HSPA+, while LTE was called "beyond 4G". So there was no lie.

btw, if you are on "LTE", it would show "LTE" at the status bar. (as shown in Galaxy S 2 LTE, Galaxy Note LTE, and HTC Jetstream LTE). None of Rogers LTE devices were given naming convention with "4G" but "LTE"

According to International Telecommunication Union, HSPA+ is classified as 4G.

http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gdmuscle:
Hi there, not sure why you think the Galaxy Tab is not 4G. Mine states 4G when it's connected to the 4G network and I'm in Windsor where 4G has just been introduced and hopefully LTE, since my SGS II is LTE. Trust me I know how slow 3G is compared to 4G and this device is 4G. Maybe someone should do a speed test to show that it is in fact 4G or H+.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brobits:
the galaxy tab doesn't have an LTE chip inside (unless you have a Verizon version). you're probably experiencing HSPA+, gdmuscle.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] yiannisthegreek:
If you read my OP you will understand why I wrote it. TRUE 4G as I understand it is based on LTE however I do also know that here in Canada HSPA+ IS considered 4g as well which is weird and confusing.

Also... If you noticed in my OP you will see that I wanted to warn users about ROOTING and Flashing ROMS, etc as on the Rogers version of the GTAB we MUST use the 3G ROOT method and flash ROMS for the 3G version of the Tablet and NOT the 4G/LTE ROMS, etc or we will brick our devices.

The only 4G/LTE TAB on the market is the Verizon version. Our boxes, etc state 4G so I can see (and have seen some here) people getting confused and try to ROOT with the wrong method and flash the wrong ROMS.

I just want to make it clear and easy for people which is why I posted this thread.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] djdanska:
Correction: The Current LTE being used was NOT considered 4g until they allowed HSPA+ and this current version of LTE to be considered 4g. Until then, LTE Advanced was the ONLY true 4g, which is not in deployed yet from what i understand.

So, based on the original rules, NOBODY ANYWHERE has a 4g tab 10.1. lmao!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
There is no commercial "4g" networks anywhere; the wireless companies realized--or rather the marketers realized--you can't sell many devices branded "3.5g". Once one company started calling it 4g, all the others had to follow suit. Even LTE networks are actually 3g (or "3.5g"). Until they can get 1gbps stationary (or 100mbps non-stationary), none of them will actually be 4g; but I guarantee the marketers don't care about that... I'm guessing the tech will actually be "3g" for what the marketers will call "5g"... No big deal, it's just a name anyways. Also, if you think this is the most dishonest thing the marketers are pushing on you, well....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

So the sky isn't falling; you might want to take the stuff in capital letters out of the thread title...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] muzzy996:
Reminds me of Seinfeld...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gsmkiller:
jus rooted a p7500r thinking it was 4g with the rooting process of a 4g .now its looping.shuld i flash it with the p7500r 3g files as u say in ur post
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SiL3nTKiLL:
well isnt this wonderful...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] khurram23:
It is as 4g as hspa+ is 4g.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] BCRsherwood:
Just got the updated version of cm7 on. Go to cwm and it says I need the updated version of manager to get gapps and also any other information.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] porksoda02:
Try flashing GAPPS

http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip

If not, re-flash CM7 but follow the instructions carefully.