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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sudkcoce:
Erklat and others who just hate threads like this and yet come to contribute to them in a non-helpful manner:

Why don't you just ignore these threads if you hate them so much????

Personally, if I just started with flashing on my Desire, I would LOVE to see what users who have tried most of the roms, think which rom is the best.

I am one of the long time "flashers" and it took a loooong time to come to a rom that feels just great.

Why would everybody have to go through all this?

My thoughts:

1) AOSP roms IMHO plain suck. You will NEVER be able to customize them the way HTC does it with sense, so why even bother? The ones who still want to bother will not ask such questions here. Yes they could be a bit faster but that's because these roms have nothing. You have to install everything and then your phone looks just like windows mobile 6. Every single thing looks and feels different...

2) Sense 3.x roms have weak multitasking and become laggy when you actually use the phone. Yes, at first one thinks they are fast, because sliding home screens and other rosy stuff seems fast. But then you try to sync with dropbox or something and someone calls you and it takes 10 seconds or more to answer the phone etc etc....

3) For our Desire Sense 1.9 roms are currently the best. But even with those, you have to choose which ones are the fastest/most stable.

After a looong time of trying various roms, my opinion is that Cool Ice is the cream of the Desire roms (the other two roms in my signature are a very close second place) It's VERY fast, it's as stable as it gets and it feels responsive even after 2 weeks of installing apps and power use.

Of course this it my personal opinion, but it's a valuable one. I get a LOT of private messages where people are thanking me for advice and are very happy.

So what exactly IS your problem with those kind of threads??? And why on earth do you keep posting in them???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] in1400:
On my Desire i've loaded ICS BCM 2.0U1

It works great ans smoothly
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sklblue:
I've flitted between cyanogenmod 7, oxygen and playing with ics beta (0.4.1.5). Best bet is to try them and see which suits.

I was using oxygen because it doesn't have things I don't need. Trying ics beta because I like it, when it doesn't keep rebooting, which it hasn't for a day
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dan281082:
this is so true, try the one that fits u best, there's so many posts saying which rom is best, there aint one, its personal preference, yes its good to see what other people use, but there's a thread on that already, i could tell joe blogs the rom i use is the best, but it might not be for joe blogs

in my opinion u have to try them see what u like, maybe search in the thread of a rom u like see what people say, those are the people that use it.

it makes no diff what rom me or anybody likes its personal choice, use the search button find out for urself
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maddin2905:
I agree =)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sudkcoce:
I don't agree.

One thing is if you want to experiment and toy with all the roms. The other thing is if you want to actually use your phone and need stability and responsiveness that is at least as good as the stock rom, which you came from.

If you want the latter, there are only a few roms available that suit the criteria (responsiveness + stability). And this is not a "personal" opinion, it's an objective one. I try to point such roms out.

If you think some other rom is better, do tell. I will nandroid my current rom and give it a spin (and probably go back to my current one in mere 30 minutes of "testing").
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dan281082:
u need to experiment and test to find one that u like correct?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sudkcoce:
If you like to experiment and live with a possibly buggy rom most of the time, then yes.

If you just do not want to waste time experimenting, then no.

And the poster of this question falls definitely into the latter category. So I try to help them.

I think I've said it all, so for me, this debate is over.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erklat:
When you read my previous post with understanding, then you'll maybe catch a grasp of it. I post merely out of phun lately. I don't entertain myself with trying to spoon feed idiots a few times a day to gain a few cheap thanks. Am I aware that this place degraded to the end of the universe and further in the last year? Yes I am and I don't hope to change that as long as number of loonies who opened 120 threads grow. But that won't stop me to have fun while I'm at it.

EDIT: Very interesting. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rzgomba:
I agree with this post and everything you said. I will try also to help.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedmarcus:
Nice thread... yawn...

:p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RonH54:
I want to post my HUB Home screens to a thread. How do I take a Snapshot of each screen? I know I have seen a place somewhere on Prime to do this but can't remember where.

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gary_O:
First you need to enable the screenshot capture feature.

Select Settings, then select ASUS customized setting

Select the Screenshot box to enable

Note the instructions: "Capture screenshots by holding the Recent Apps key"

To capture a screenshot, hold down (long press) the Recent Apps key, and you will see a popup window of the screen being captured. They are stored in the /sdcard/Screenshots folder.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] powerarmour:
Also on ICS you can do the OS standard method of holding down power + volume down to take a screenshot too.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloover:
Hi, after 2 days from update, my tab was in standby, when i woke up it i saw the first image when tf101 turn on it said " eeepad powered by nvidia" after black screen, and again image, and black screen,again and again; so i press power buttom for long time and tf101 starts, sorry for bad english, other people witn same problem?

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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyesoftsys:
same here , to start my tf101 i use recovery image power + up arrow , and i had 2 days without any reboot now my tf rebooted 2 times on standby.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloover:
for me it's not a reboot, eepad image and power off, power on, eeepad image, and power off, and again without end

Inviato dal mio Transformer TF101 usando Tapatalk
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Japoco:
Same here after ICS update and factory reset....

:mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreamboxuser:
Sounds to me like you guys got a bad download. Not sure but if you know how to flash back to honeycomb i would give that a try and then redownload the update.

To flash back to honeycomb download your proper region from here

http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#download

Then UNZIP the zip file that came from asus

Copy the asus/update/ww-epad-user8.6.5.21.zip file to your microSD

Copy the ww-epad-user8.6.5.21 file to the root of your microSD

Rename the file to EP101-SDUPDATE.zip. (this is case sensitive must be caps)

Reboot to recovery by pressing vol down and power while the tab is off

When you see the text press vol up

Edit : if this works it should bring you back to honeycomb. This is also assuming you cannot get into clockworkmod.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anatmavada:
I have the same problem, turning the TF101 off.

After a while when I look at it, its hanging on the boot screen and the circle is not spinning.

A reboot helps.

Could it be one of my news reader News360, Puls or a app like email, Friendfinder or Overlook Wiz?

These apps are always active and synch themselves at given times.

I have a few browser shortcuts. In a folder on my homescreen, after a crash like this, the shortcut icons are replaced with green android icons.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloover:
I've done a wipe, now im testing my tab for next days, so i can see if problem return.

I don't know if this information could help but my problem started after use gps.

If in next days i see this problem again, i'll follow dreamboxuser guide's

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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msaraiva:
It is not a case of bad downloads. CWM or OTA, it doesn't matter, my TF is random rebooting on ICS. Honeycomb runs just fine. My report is consistent with that of other people. There IS a problem with the update, but it seems to only affect some units.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloover:
If it's the problem i hope for other update from Asus to fix it :-(

Inviato dal mio Transformer TF101 usando Tapatalk
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyesoftsys:
i don't think is a bad download , 2 day straight after the update i had no problems ... now on 24 hours i had 3 reboot , 1 time hang at the Asus logo and 1 time my tf went into a some kind of bootloop ... after the download of ics update is a check file verification before the start .

so i think the problem is in ICS or a combination of ICS + some packages or some problem in kernel .
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daz_2000:
No problems for me too. Chrome is awesome. Not had one fc or random reboot.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyesoftsys:
another problem is that battery is drain faster ... but the ics is smooth and apps works great ... no fc or other problems ... i'm waiting for a revolver release :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enewman17:
How many who have had reboots logged into g+ app?

Had been using this heavily without issues till I signed into g+. Soon after I signed in and turned off screen it rebooted and stuck at Asus screen. Held power till it restated wiped data from g+ (and never logged back in) and it hasn't happened again so far. It might be a far cry to what may be causing reboots. But I didn't have any problems till then. And I don't seem to have them now, battery is good if not better, I love it just hope it doesn't reboot again.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bloover:
I agree with you, i notice one thing, battery in ICS is better then honeycomb, but after this problem it start drain faster, i don't know why, in battery settin i see "active", what is it?

As you can see, sometimes wifi is off, display is off, tab is in standby but "attivo" in english active, is still running

Inviato dal mio Transformer TF101 usando Tapatalk
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CalvinH:
B50 US TF, Wipe after update.

I have just suffered the boot loop. I had to push vol- and power to get into recovery. Once there I powered off, then on again, and everything went back to normal.

I don't beleive it has something to be with the dl. There's something wrong...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyesoftsys:
The battery was drain because the screen was on at asus logo for an hour or so and went from 76% to 34%. I don't think is a battery issue with ics, just freezing at one point with screen on.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msaraiva:
It's definitely in the update, most probably the kernel, since the bug is triggered when the device enters the deep sleep state. And probably not an app, because even after a wipe and NOT configuring a Google Account, the problem persists.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tedr44:
I have a stock B50 which updated successfully, no reboots or power drain issues. Make sure the tab is fully charged and plugged in to the charger before updating, it takes a long time so be patient. When it's done, it will beep and show the lockscreen. I hope the root is not causing the problem.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
Same problem here, had a boot loop a day or two ago just as described in the first post. No need to go to recovery, just held the power button in until the tablet switched off, then waited a few seconds, and powered back on. I hadn't shut it down before the issue started, though, it just spontaneously rebooted and got stuck in the boot loop by itself when I wasn't around. No idea how long it had been going when my wife found it.

Spontaneous reboots were *very* rare for me on Honeycomb, and I never saw a boot loop before at all

I'm on a stock, unrooted US-market TF101-B1, and wiped both before and after installing ICS. Barely any programs had been added to the stock install when the boot loop happened...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elceedub:
My wife's did this today. Never rooted, it got the OTA update to ICS yesterday with no factory reset, and had been running flawlessly until the bootloop this morning. I held the power button until it reset, its been fine since. It happened exactly as described in the OP. Something is broken in the ICS ROM.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreamboxuser:
K so the upgrade file is being downloaded ok. Did you have your dock connected when you flashed the upgrade?

Could be a conflict with old firmware vs new firmware (speculation).

I would try superwiping (assuming you are using CWM) the tab and start back from the beginning. (down near the bottom of the post I suggest using the full wipe but clear off your internal SD card first microsd is untouched)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1245892

Edit: Some people have used this workaround ..... disabling deep sleep using a no sleep widget

more info on this here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1517133

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1518552
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kyonz:
I'm a bit confused as to this, mine was having huge issues with freezing and rebooting but since it's last boot it seems very stable and quick - I'm not going to test my luck by rebooting it again but it seems like such a weird issue.

Is there any difference reported by those that have flashed the ww rom as opposed to the us one? (I've been having issues under the ww one)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
I've experienced the boot loop on the US rom once, so far.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] horndroid:
I flashed the WW version. No boot problems at all.

People need to make sure they are doing a COLD REBOOT after upgrading to ICS.

Mine was sluggish immediately after upgrading so I did a cold reboot and everything has been fine and stable ever since.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jparity:
Sorry for my ignorance... but what's considered a cold reboot?...

A. Complete show down, go take a shower, come back and power up the device.

B. Hold down power till the screen goes blank, then power it on.

C. Hold down Power + Vol Down, and select to boot from the android partition.

Thanks!

Edit: I've down A and B and still experiencing random reboot and stuck Asus loading screen. I have just powered on the device using method C. Fingers crossed I'm rid of RR for good (seriously doubtful)...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] horndroid:
It just baffles me that you hadn't tried a cold boot.

Did you even try removing all your apps and widgets?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jparity:
Yes, I have performed a factory reset after updating to ICS.

So what exactly do you mean by cold boot?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] horndroid:
So you have currently 0 downloaded apps and widgets running right?

Why the f haven't you googled how to do cold reboot already?

Now this is when I realize I am just wasting my time.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vicw:
That's a perfectly reasonable question to ask, I think. I just got into that subject since the problems after the ICS update. My understanding is it just requires holding down the Down Volume and Power buttons, until you see the white text show up in the upper left hand corner. The icon should also indicate that it is doing a Linux Cold Boot. I've done that several times, with no improvement.

I think the most coherent posts in this thread are #17-20. They were written in some detail, and I found them quite helpful.

I don't believe any of us really understands what the problem is at this point, and although I'm prepared to do the Factory Reset, I don't have a bit of confidence it will help the situation for me. Right now I'm going to cool my heels, and just cope with this for a bit, waiting for some indication that ASUS has acknowledged the problem and has a firmware update coming soon to resolve it.

All of the flailing around we are doing is entertaining, and keeping us busy, but I haven't seen anything yet that looks like a true solution to what shows every evidence of being a firmware bug.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreamboxuser:
If you can get into recovery you can save your machine.

The only time to panic is if you turn it on and nothing happens.

Edit: some people have found that the problem is he tablet is going into deep sleep and not waking up. Try the keep awake app or never sleep app. that seems to reduce the problems
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kyonz:
I tell you what dealing with the NVflash recovery and such makes me love Samsung and HTC all the more...

This is what i'd been trying before it started working without rebooting so I'm guessing that I've turned off sleep and that was in fact what was causing it to crash. I hope Asus release a bug fix soon - tablet flies on ICS.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flipado:
I have the same problem, i had 2 days without any reboot but now my tablet rebooted 1 time on standby

Another problem of the update is now no longer does the method of the smartass cover :mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreamboxuser:
I went from Spark ICS to Honeycomb (TW then US then WW all stock with stock recovery was experimenting trying to get the update earlier- TW and US failed because my tab is originally WW so when i went to that it popped up right away but i rooted put in CWM and decided to go with the CWM version) then Flashed the WW ICS then went to Revolver.

I have to say CWM has saved my ass more times than i can count. If you have the option i suggest Wiping all and flashing the FULL ICS update. I personally have not encountered any issues (Yet) and am happy with the results.

So if you do have CWM might as well try.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmit37:
I have a US tf. I found that I was getting random reboots at the tune of almost once an hour. Never had the problem with hc so I did a factory reset. Random reboots had stopped for a bit however this morning it wouldn't wake up so had to do restart it.

Since then I've had 3 reboots with two stuck at the Asus screen. I hope Asus fix it however I am still glad they released ICS.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Orillian:
G+ App was causing this due to an ever increasing number of force closes to me last week when I updated. Uninstalled and re-installed the G+ app and after a reboot. it's been rock solid since Thursday night (23rd of Feb). My kids have been draining it almost dry playing Gem Miner 2 on it all weekend, and no FC's or random reboots since.

The only issue I have is the fact that the dock does not wake the tablet up on key press anymore. Rock solid and fast. Lot's of apps have been updating as well, which can't hurt.

I forgot to mention. I think this issue is caused by an ICS incompatible app that is failing while doing update/notification checks. G+ was doing this to me, but not always failing with a Force Close error message. So if your having this kind of issue look at the apps you have that push notifications, and see if any are unresponsive or failing (sometimes silently).

O.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fldude99:
How do you uninstall a system app like Google +? I assume you're rooted?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Garrafone:
I have the random boot problem, in my case, it only happens at night, and when i wake up and end the boot problem, the battery was drained from 80% to 30% for example. Im on official ICS OTA, no root, directly stock.

I dont know what the tablet was doing when its on the boot problem trying to boot android, but this screen drains the battery:confused:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timscha:
I installed ICS on friday. After one day it reboots and I have a bootloop. Only a "hardreset" (I pressed the power button a long time) helps and all working again. Now using Revolver ROM all looks good so far...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dany XP:
Asus answer

I got a reply from Asus this morning and i can see they are aware of the problem.

"Dear customer,

yes, a new ugrade will be released these days that will solve the different problems ICS gave.

Best regards,

Customer Care Asus

---------- Original Message ----------"
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dbargel:
Thank's Dany XP....very very much ;) Now waiting for patch :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
Thanks, Dany. I got my second spontaneous reboot yesterday, and this time rather than getting stuck in a boot loop, it locked up completely on the boot screen. Left it for five or ten minutes as I was curious if it would start doing the boot loop, but it stayed frozen, so I cold booted and all was fine again.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elceedub:
It's been two days since the single boot loop episode for us. Lots of use, no problems yet. We never wiped, BTW. Not pre-update, post-update, nor after the boot loop episode.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 335Deezl:
Back 2 honeycomb for this guy...

I, for one, got tired of my Transformer having a dead battery when I came back, so I reinstalled Revolver 3.11.1 until the issue is fixed...:mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
I had more issues today. Let the battery run out by mistake (put it on to charge, didn't notice it wasn't plugged in at the other end of the cable.) When I found it and tried to start it up, it locked up on boot before it even got to the circle-of-dots thing. Restarted, same deal. Restarted and on the third try it worked.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rusty377:
I have us tf101 a version. Have the lockup on screen showing dot circle not rotating. Also reboots in loop sometimes.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
Just to add two more data points, so far today my wife's TF101 16GB has spontaneously rebooted and locked up on the splash screen before booting, and my 32GB has spontaneously rebooted and gotten stuck in a boot loop. Both were, as usual, back to normal after holding the power button down for ~10 seconds. It seems like I see this with my tablet on average once a day, so it is a very clear, new issue related to the ICS update.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rusty377:
Another problem experienced is when pressing home button sometimes goes to a background only (without icons) home page requiring 10sec press of power button. While on the home page, if you press area where apps button normally is I get a blank page. Requires reboot.