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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
This is precisely why ASUS is making so many different models. We don't know the pricing yet, but I'm guessing it will definitely be

T300: $399

T201: $499

T700: $599

Personally, $499 is the most I want to spend on a tablet, or roughly $650 with the dock. I would NOT want to spend $599 or more on a tablet, or roughly $750 with the dock, period, no matter how much more functionality it provides. I could afford it, it's just that's more than I'm willing to spend on something like this.

However, if you want the higher resolution, or need the GPS or presumably better wifi performance, then maybe the extra $100 is worth it to you. Or, you might not want to spend more than $399, and therefore the T300 is the best bet. Bottom line is, ASUS has a nice range of machines, and it's a smart strategy. Toss in the $250 7" tablet, and they're covering all the bases.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
There's not doubt that the 300 will be a good device after the Prime debacle. Like I told you already. Yes I have a M18x and PS Vita. Thanks to Asus I have 649.98 in free store credit to apply to a Asus product. These revised products certainly fit the bill.

Sexy isn't it?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
How about this for pricing.. of course we are all assuming on the future pricing of the yet to be released:

If pricing wise:

memo 7": 250-299

Transformer Pad 300 wifi: 399

Transformer Pad 300 4g: 499

Transformer Pad Infiniy wifi: 599

Transformer Pad Infiniy 4g: 699

Looks like they covered the price ranges. If this is the prices I assume
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Exactly what I was saying. Asus is trying to become like Samsung now. Except almost all Samsung devices no matter the size are in same general price range. I think Asus may become a bigger player now this year. I see the eating away at Samsung android share of market even more so. Smart strategy on Asus part. Now they will have a tablet for everyone, no matter the Max price you want to spend.

I also agree, $499 is my Max range for a tablet. Or a lil more with a dock.

A note to everyone, I like this xda community. Even the Asus/tegra3 bashers. Its always good to have difference in opinions. Makes things more interesting and world would be boring place if everyone acted and thought exactly the same. Plus differences always lead to new discoveries. Your difference in opinion could give me or someone a new insight or idea into something. So its needed.

Lets all hold hands now and sing Kumbayaa :D lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yhzhrm:
Not according to the Aus press release.

Transformer Pad 300 series is for

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... young and trendy, tech-savvy set who are looking for more individuality, value, and performance in their tablet

Transformer Pad Prime

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... Designed for early adopters,

I think they really meant to say beta testers. LOL

Transformer Pad Infinity series

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Specifically designed for HD video enthusiasts, it boasts a 1920 x 1200 Full HD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
;)

Exactly....lol:p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lolento:
Looks like it is q2, knowing Asus it would be a small sample size at the last days of June. But I hope they prove me wrong. I'm interested in trading my prime for the 700, I can really use better GPS and higher Res screen. If it is a hundred dollars difference and use the same dock, I will gladly pay that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Finally some competition!

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/that-7-7-inch-toshiba-tablet-we-saw-at-ces-its-called-the-at27/

Certainly, it's far enough along that it now has confirmed specs. According to an NVIDIA rep, this has a 7.7-inch, 1280 x 800, Super AMOLED (!) panel, and runs NVIDIA's 1.5GHz Tegra 3 chip. And while NVIDIA isn't exactly broadcasting the name, a quick glance at the settings confirmed its current name is the AT270, which would certainly make for a logical followup to the AT200. (A quick glance at the settings also confirms it's running ICS -- a vanilla version, at that -- but any self-respecting tech writer would know that at a glance.)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
What's the game on that screen anyways? Toshiba excite's design & build quality is certainly top notch if you ask me... it's much more comfortable to hold as well when I tested it out...

But considering that it took forever for Toshiba to launch its tablets.. I wonder when this will get released...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I don't think it's controversial at all to state that the TF201 won't have more than a 1-year lifespan. In fact, in today's market, I think that's pretty long, actually.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] benefit14snake:
I wonder if krait will be a Prescott esque cpu? I always worry when they start to lengthen the pipeline that much. Time will tell, I think krait will be a screamer but at the cost if battery life.

Edit: although one interesting thing is the lte chip on the soc, that alone may make up for less than perfect power draw from the cpu side of things.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] poofyhairguy:
Man, some of yall are WAY off today.

First of all, Krait isn't A15. It is a special Qualcomm design that tests have shown is barely better than the A9 cores in our devices.

Anadtech's testing of Krait shows the GPU is some cases is better than Tegra 3 and some cases is worse. With two less cores, that makes Krait an inferior design.

Also:

Probably not. It seems like part of the point of the TF300 is to use the chips that won't run at 1.6ghz in SOMETHING.

I bet the TF300's have the worst silicon out of any of these new Transformers. They wouldn't clock the CPU down from our model just for marketing purposes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Interesting: this is saying that the TF300 only has 8GB storage. http://techinstyle.tv/20122723877/products/tablets-phones/transformer-tf300t/

Yuck.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Add toshiba to list of of tegra3 devices.

@jaypm thats what I like to see. a breakdown of specs. not b.s. Reference to benchmarks for bragging rights.

Ill read those articles you listed if those aren't ones I've read already.

Thanks for the laugh with jesusfreak reference..lmfao good one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
You guys are funny. With all the prospecting about Asus' plans and comparisons of the other devices to the Prime you left out the most important element. Asus moved away from the all metal back cover (and probably manufacturing complexity) in both of the newer tablets. They'll both have significantly better wireless, eliminate the majority of returns and RMA's both Asus and resellers have been experiencing, and be unique in the market (Transformer Pad = Value, Transformer Infinity = Luxury). If you step back, the Prime's a gen-one tablet with a faster chip (Transformer Prime = Early Adopters). Compared to the other two it's most unique feature is poor to average wireless performance and the loss of GPS.

Asus could produce a dozen tablets. 10.1" Market-capable Android tablets represent 15% of the market and that's not expected to change in the foreseeable future. Resellers aren't going to buy inventory from Asus and have it sit in their warehouses waiting to dribble out. The TF300 is brilliant and their choice of colors and giving it a value price will appeal to Gen Y (and younger) and make it their best seller. For the high-end (the smallest part of the 15%) the TF700/Infinity represents Asus well. And finally producing a 3/4G version of one of their tablets will allow them to develop relationships with the wireless carriers which make up 1/3 to 1/2 of Samsung's tablet sales. I'd guess the TF300 will make up as much as 70% of Asus' 10.1" tablet sales. Do they and/or resellers really need two similar devices to make up the other 30%? Especially when one has such a checkered past?

As for SoC's Teg3 is unique because it was first. First isn't always best. Teg2 was first and to be first Nvidia comprimised and left out NEON. Soon after it was displaced by better chips from TI, Qualcomm, and Samsung. Nvidia comprimised by using A9 when it's clear competitive chips will use the more modern A15. Until they're out Teg3 is king. After that, we'll have to wait and see.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wokka00:
I'm okay with new models, especially since they aren't only making changes to the design flaw . If anything, new models confirm Asus' dedication to and the viability of the docked tablet configuration. We'll probably have support for the TF201s for quite a while, especially given the TF101's track record.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
here we go..lol tell em...krait is considered in a15 class but not a true a15 chip. lets get the facts straight ;)

Time to burst some bubbles..lmao

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there u go..lol you cool wit me ;) I was waiting for u to chime in. I knew you Would say that..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nguyenmd:
Thats what i meant why ATP will be the one people wants...it is already hard to buy and cost has risen since released!:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I for one.. deliberately did not mention plastic backplate. That issue has been beaten to death, and it'll only start more flame war between Demandrin & many others.

I for one want to judge Transformer Pad 300 on its own, and judge strictly based on what Transformer Pad 300 is.. and not compare it to Prime (not that I did a good job in this matter).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
You can stop counting. All the contracts the manufacturers have with Nvidia for the devices being announced were signed months ago. This is how many Teg3's Nvidia will sell this year. And to make those numbers they need phones, not tablets because they're outsold 10:1.

"Huang stepped back from his previous goal of reaching $1 billion in sales of Tegra mobile chips in 2012, telling Reuters in an interview that one-time mobile chip customer Samsung Electronics has become a competitor.

He said revenue from Tegra last year was $360 million and that he expects to grow it at last 50 percent this year."

At $25 a piece Nvidia needs to sell 22MM Teg3's this year to make those new lower numbers. We can judge by the release dates and popularity of the devices being announced whether or not they'll make it. Their best hope believe it or not is Lenovo in China. They're a huge brand there and are producing many Teg3 devices exclusively for their home market. They could end up being Nvidia’s biggest Teg3 customer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PolishPoet:
I only hope they come out soon so that all the nay-sayers on the Prime find a new home.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
That's noble but how can it not be part of a discussion about Asus' future tablet plans?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] soulctcher:
In the same way that everyone who bought a Model T was a beta tester for an F150; or in the same way that everyone who bought an incandescent light bulb was a beta tester for a CFL bulb; or in the same way that everyone who bought a Pentium was a beta tester for the Pentium 2; or in the same way that everyone who bought anything that was brand new was a beta tester for a product that then came out later where lessons were learned from the earlier product.

That argument is old and tired. Let it rest. ASUS is here to make money. They should NOT stop making new product because one they released wasn't perfect. They SHOULD release new product that learns lessons from the old.

Now, if you want to argue that they should do something for the existing line of product that people have already bought, that's a different argument and I won't disagree with you there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Looks like this site has all the specs mixed up or incorrect. it says it has super ips+ display and only 8gb of memkry. That contridicts asus and others specs.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
This thread is too funny, why are we arguing over chips?? This is how android works, all chips will eventually be outdone by another chip. Tegra 3 works great for me..it's fast, graphics are great and my battery life is amazing. So who cares if another chip will be better? We all purchased the Primes because at the time the Tegra 3 was the baddest chip on the block, but of course other chips will be made to surpass it in certain areas, does that make it obsolete, of course not. My phone is still using the old snapdragon processor, but it is still running smooth and I am happy with how it runs. At the end of the day, as long as my games and apps runs as smooth as butter, I am happy. So unless you can afford to upgrade everytime a better chipset comes out, enjoy what you have, and look forward to what tegra 3 has in store :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I find it interesting that nobody else has announced any high-res screens for Android tablets, and we still have no idea when the TF700 will be shipping (or even when ASUS _plans_ to ship it, to which we should add at least 60 days). In particular, Samsung is announcing new 1280X800 devices, with no high-res unit in sight.

I'm starting to think that the industry is having difficulty producing these screens in quantity. If not, then I'd have expected Samsung (who makes these things themselves) to have announced a high-res device to head off the iPad 3. Apple, of course, always gets things first--they can simply pre-purchase mass quantities of the things with some of that $100 billion in cash on hand. I doubt that anyone else has that luxury, and so it might be some time before anyone will be able to actually purchase a TF700.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Stated very well. ran out of tHanks :)

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good point. samsung is rumored to havebsome 11in. Mega hd resolution screen coming like ipad3 but it seems more like a myth. no new info on it. not even at mwc. might be project shot down dead already.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
It could have less to do with screen availibility and more to do with the timing of SoCs with greater memory bandwidth to support the higher resolutions. Sasmung's 5250 isn't expected to be in production until Q2 so it makes sense to introduce some interim products until then. The G-Tab 2 line replaces the original G-Tabs and will be priced lower making them Samsung's entry level products.

I'm surprised no one mentioned this. Huawei developed the chip in tandem with Imagination Technologies (PowerVR) here in the U.S. It's going to be an interesting year for mobile devices.

Huawei to Create Its Own Quad-Core CPU to Rival Tegra 3

Posted by Chuong Nguyen | 02/27/2012

At Mobile World Congress, not only did rising Chinese smartphone-manufacturer Huawei announce the company’s first smartphone in the form of the Ascend D Quad and Ascend D Quad XL smartphones–akin to Motorola’s Droid RAZR and Droid RAZR Maxx where the latter XL moniker denotes a device with a more capacious battery, but the company also announced that these new devices will be running on its own quad-core CPU. Dubbed the K3V2, Huawei’s quad-core offerings will go head-to-head with NVIDIA’s Tegra 3 devices, of which one was announced in the form of the HTC One X smartphone.

Huawei will be joining big names in the mobile processor game, including Texas Instruments, Samsung, NVIDIA, Qualcomm, and Marvell with the K3V2. The processor will ship with either a 1.2 or 1.5 GHz clock speed and Huawei will be using four-A9 cores with a 64-bit architecture.

Also packaged with the processor will be a 16-core graphics processor. In Huawei’s MWC presentation, the company showed benchmarking results that were impressive. The K3V2′s GPU performance had beaten out the Galaxy Nexus and the Transformer Prime tablet, the latter of which uses NVIDIA’s Tegra 3 quad-core CPU coupled with the company’s GeForce graphics engine.

According to Huawei, K3V2 offers “twice the graphics performance, is 49 percent faster in purely CPU-powered tasks and uses 30 percent less power than its competitors.”
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaypm:
good correction, krait is a custom design that many have regarded as "A15 class", but it is not A15. as per those links posted previously, krait does incorporate elements of the A15 architecture such as the new A15 virtualization instructions and LPAE for 40-bit memory addressing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theledman:
Agreed. The more competitors, the merrier (and the more incentive there is to innovate).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I'm just wanting to replace my Desire Z with a Teg3 keyboard-phone now :p I wonder if HTC will ever jump on the bandwagon?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] soulctcher:
Generally, I would agree, but you don't want to widen the field too much. What you usually get in that case is a large bunch of product where none of them do everything you need...let's hope that doesn't happen here. I find in core technology you do best when there's 2-3 real competitors...think Intel vs. AMD or ATI/AMD vs. nVidia.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
That does raise the question, then: just how well will Tegra 3 (even at 1.6GHz) handle 2.25X the pixels? Is the possibility that it won't perform well for, say, gaming, at that resolution account for the fact that ASUS is touting the T700 as a "multimedia" (i.e., video-watching) system? Or has it already been established (i.e., through video-out performance) that Tegra 3 can handle these resolutions at acceptable speeds?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaypm:
holy crap super amoled. the super amoled plus screen on the GS2 is hands down the best screen i've seen on any device. would love to have a tablet with that screen tech... even if it is only the pentile matrix flavor.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] soulctcher:
It's already capable of handling 1920x1080 out, so it's not really that much more of a stretch to get to 1920x1200.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
How could they do something for the existing line when the key problem is the backplate. And your right Asus is here to make money, so why fix something thats gonna cost them more to replace? Your car and light bulbs dont really fit, Look at the prime and the infinity wifi. Take out the screen and camera and it has the same components with a few modifications. Can you take the body off the F150 and say that its the same as the model T with a few tweaks? And with the bulbs nothing is the same except for they both produce light and can be screwed in a socket. And those were accepted when they released and lasted till there were new technologies available. Before the prime was released there already suspected problems, hence the delay of release. Even when it released the problems never disappeared, then came the beta testing to see if the consumers will notice and find others. I can say the prime was a beta testing device because with a future tablet that (looks and smells like a fixed prime) on its way with some cosmetic changes to make sure current primes owners wont b!tch and moan refund or recall. Its there only way to fix the prime without losing money.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] richB7:
I have a tablet with super amoled plus.... The samsung galaxy tab 7.7. Color saturation is great.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] soulctcher:
They could replace the backplate for everyone that sends it in for RMA. Yes, it's gonna cost them if they did, I get that.

Fair enough, but take just the F150 then. They've released a new model of that every year for decades. The people that own an older model don't have a right to complain because there are newer models of the exact same truck out. Many years, they sit on the same frame and are almost identical with small changes based upon lessons learned. That IS a valid argument.

Still not beta testing...you might say it's a poor product and list your reasons why, but it's not beta testing. As an early adopter, you purchase something and are willing to take a risk on the untested. The first groups of people to fly in rockets that had been thoroughly tested were not beta testers, but they definitely put themselves out there knowing that it was still early technology. You did the same by purchasing the TF201. But we all know the upsides to this were largely greater than the downsides probably would be.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaypm:
and the blacks man... samoled+ pixels actually turn off when displaying black. makes everything else look gray to me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
With the prime there is suppose to be no risks, thats why there is a warranty. A guarantee its a fully functional beast. It should have been tested before its release. The only risk is if you choose to root or bootloader unlock. Why do you think Gary sent out the a beta version of 15 update to prime owners. Isnt it to beta test the update to see if it works or not before its release to the mass.

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I agree with you, they should but I doubt theyll do that when there are some fully functioning prime with the same backplate

But you have to look at the release of the TF201 and then not even a month old (I forgot) the TF700 was already built and on its testing phase, then later were leaks of others.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bjfrank:
For everyone that is trying to decide if to buy a Prime or wait for the TF700 needs to consider the REAL Asus timeline for the TF700. First of all, it is probably a good 3 to 4 months out. Then you have to add another 1 to 2 months for it to be delayed by Asus. Next it will finally be released but Asus will not even close make enough of them so it will take another 1 to 2 months to even get one in your hands.

What does this all mean?? It will take around 6 to 7 months to even get a TF700. By this time the market will be flooded with other tablets and better technology. You are best off just going out and purchasing a Prime and enjoy it like the rest of us. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] westcoastgeek:
Is no one excited about the padfone?

For me as a road warrior, I am most excited about the padfone. It has that same great s4 processor, and bluetooth 4.0 and up to 64GB of storage plus a micro sd card. There was no mention of NFC, but I am praying it is also there as the HTC ONE has it.

Being able to slip this into the pad, all your data is the same with no syncing required, and will have its own dock.

It will be super cool if in 2-3 years you just need to pick up the latest and greatest phone, (guts) and your whole system is up to date again. I like that thought.

If it gets lousy reviews, I'll pick up an Infinity pad and maybe give that new huawei phone a try
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Agreed. After all, we buy these things to actually USE THEM, right? It seems like sitting around waiting for the absolute fastest-performance, best value, best-spec'ed product would mean that one would never actually USE anything, and once you got it, you'd be disappointed because the following week something better would be announced and you'd be back in the waiting game.

Seriously, whether or not the Prime will be the best device in 3, 6, or 12 months from now, it's the best thing going at the moment (unless you want to use it as a GPS navigation device), and I'd rather use a device for 3 months (or more) productively than not use anything, even if in 3 months it's no longer technically the absolute best. It'll still be entirely functional, and in fact I'd bet it'll be well over a year before any software is released that the Prime won't be able to comfortably run.