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[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Read the post carefully.

The confusion was regarding the screen resolution on the One S.

I do not know you well enough to gauge your taste in devices, so cool it.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
There should be a central thread to do with all this. There seems to be a lot of threads popping up just saying the same thing in a different way.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Can't wait to see what you do :D :p

I like the One S design, but I prefer the One X specs... I wish HTC merged them together!
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Good observation! I didn't realize that!

I don't mind having a search button or not.. I never used it at first, but now it is actually quite useful...

But I guess I could live without it!
[HTC Desire S] :
I could live without the search button. I only use it to toggle wifi on and off quickly....

But I couldn't live without removable battery and SD card slot. How many times have we all tested a ROM or mod and it's frozen? 9 times out of 10 the three button reset works, but then sometimes it doesn't. Then what? Wait for the battery to run out completely? Lithium Ion batteries are damaged if allowed to completely discharge.

Plus even on the One X with 32GB internal storage, only 26GB is actually available to use (Recent hands-on article from MWC). As I was leaning more towards the One S, does that mean that only 10GB of the 16GB is available? Not enough. Coming with 25GB of free dropbox space does not make up for it. Not much use if you have a 500MB/month data allowance like me. How much will 24 months of extra line rental to bump it up cost me? What happens if I'm in a crap reception area? How many of my favourite albums do I leave off so I can have off-line navigation Co-Pilot maps installed and still leave room for nandroid backups?

At least the One V has an SD card slot.

Nuts to more processing cores. The DS is still king for me! :D
[HTC Desire S] djisgod:
removable battery is a bad thing....look at all the mmc bricks ...far more damaging than a discharged battery.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
I'm pretty sure that's just a desire s thing (I'm aware that a lot of HTCs get damaged eMMCs just not sure if they're battery pulling related).I feel confident that HTC have done a brilliant job with the one series. But obviously a non removable battery does help to remove the fear of the eMMC breaking.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
+1

I agree with everything you said there!

When my phone freezes aswell, the button combo rarely works. Also for powerusers, they need removable batteries. The 1800Mah is pathetic considering it has to power a quad-core monster!

The microSD slot could potentially bother me in the future.

I currently only have a 8GB SD card in my phone.. and have already filled it up.

I don't keep tons of movies/music picture, but I keep enough to fill up 8GB.

I also like the option of knowing you can expand it. Internal memory sucks! I hate how Google are making manufacturers move in this direction...

Also, I'm a bit confused... Say we flash ROMs on it, and we wipe the data/cache before loading a new ROM, does that mean that we lose everything on the phone?!

Or does it work like a internal SD card that we can't physically remove?

Also, regarding the thing about only 26GB of 32GB accessible...

I believe that the 5-6GB is actually reserved for the cache!!

I know its ridiculous!

But think Sensation. It has 4GB internal memory, but only 1GB accessible. But that's the reason its fast!

Also the XL. It has 16GB available, but only 11GB accessible. Same theory. This is why reviews say that the XL is unexpectededly fast! I used it in a store aswell, and tbh, if HTC told me it was dual core, I would have believed them. I used it next to a regular sensation, and they felt more or less the same. I can't compare this to my Desire S with XL port because mine is loaded up with apps + data (slower) and running only at 1Ghz.

But the general point is, this extra cache helps greatly in speed!

If you are interested, you can check up the 'cache reserved' information over at the Sensation threads. I read this quite a while back, so can't remember the exact link!
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
That is correct Oly.
[HTC Desire S] tasos12:
ONE X looks brilliant!I am totally amazed!

Still I ll keep my DS until September when my contract with my Mobile provider ends.After that I will probably blackmail them to give me the ONE X for free If they want me to sign a new contract with them.

I know it sounds a bit crazy but I ve done it once and got a Nikon Digital Camera and a friend of mine who did the same(blackmail) this year got for free the i phone 4S.

So I will stay patient till September....
[HTC Desire S] :
Cheers Oli. That explains the drop in user space that was confusing me. Does mean that the One S is now out of the question for me.

I have a 32gb card. I filled my 16gb one so easily with music and other stuff. (I use my phone to copy work onto it to take home too.)

The One V is nice but not a move forward from the DS. Don't get me ranting again about the One X!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
The One V is NOT the succesor to the Desire S, it's the succesor to the Wildfire S. All of you are thinking of it as a downgrade to the Desire S (less RAM, no front camera etc.) which is wrong. Actually, it's a huge upgrade to the Wildfire S. It will be a lot cheaper than our device, it's HTC's low range device after all. This explains the lack of features you guys talked about (you can't put everything into a budget phone and not expect a price hike).

As far as the One X and S are concerned, they are excellent. The only problem is non removable batteries, no SD card and a micro sim slot. All these are required to keep the device slim i guess....... I would definitely like to buy a One S (the X is way too big), but my Desire S is barely a year old. As enigmaamit said, i'd need to rob a bank :p

For everyone who does want to upgrade - I'm afraid that the One S will face the same lack of dev support the Desire S faced initially. Many devs have shown interest in the X. Dev support is very important, so keep an eye on the respective XDA forums before you make any decisions.
[HTC Desire S] BeSeanB:
cant find the one s on the htc side.

just x xl and v. xl = s? oO
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
No Sean, The XL is a different phone. It's already out in the market for quite some time now...
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Lol no enigmaamit. He means One Xl not sensation xl.

The One Xl = HTC One X for america. (and some other areas)

The one xl replaces the quad core tegra 3 on the X with a dual core qualcomm S4 (like on the One S). The rest of the device is the same This is because the tegra 3 doesn't support the network there.
[HTC Desire S] BeSeanB:
rly? one xl? it says "coming soon"

this "one"

http://www.htc.com/au/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
@BeSeanB enigmaamit was talking about the Sensation XL, not One XL.

The One S isn't on the australian site (the one in your link) so i assume it's not coming to australia :( The XL will come instead. Check out the One S on the world-wide site -

http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
My bad [facepalm]:eek:
[HTC Desire S] looktall:
the one xl is the LTE version of the phone.

the one xl is coming to australia exclusive to telstra apparently. which would make sense as it's the only carrier with a 4G network available to the general public.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
Where is the 3.7-4 inch mid range :(
[HTC Desire S] :
It's the HTC One S unfortunately. Nice unibody aluminium design like the DS, expect with the crippling limitation of no SD card slot and only 16GB internal memory. Only approx 10GB of this will be usable. :mad:

Was looking at the Sony Xperia range, but they've had the same sudden-rush-of sh*t-to-the-head about internal storage too. :mad::mad:

I'm buying a new battery, screen protector and a new case for my DS instead.

I'll put a sticker on the back of it saying "Dual Core" and over-clock it slightly.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
No SD card is definite? Damn. I don't understand how companies make these retarded decisions. I have over 20 GB of stuff so that's unacceptable. I think I'm just gonna stick with the DS for a while. It's more than capable at anything I've thrown at it so far and I don't care much for games.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'm sad to say that as I'm getting older my eye sight isn't getting any better :mad:, so I'll probably require that my next device is larger than 4inch so that I can stop squinting :eek:!, Such as shame as the reason I own a DS is entirely based on its small footprint.
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
I have a question... If I am not wrong One V has a wvga display like us but unlike us it has capacitive buttons for back,home,task switcher...would it be possible to remap our menu button into task switcher? Also does it seem convenient to you guys? To me it does as one v is heading that way...and as a bonus we will always have search button...remapping the menu key would make it just like one v imo...
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
It's possible to remap any button to remap a button to recent apps. Just use this guide - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1450138 (i'm not sure this works for desire s, but i guess it should)
[HTC Desire S] Einander:
I like the One S design, but I prefer the One X specs
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
Great ..will try that and remap search into menu and menu into task switcher...
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I've just watched a video if the One V, and it has 2D Sense! No more 3D effects!

Also the task killer isn't 3D like the X or S.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Hmm..... I think htc is giving the One V a stripped down version of sense 4. In The video i saw of One X Rom ruuning on sensation, the launcher effect was the same as in sense 3 & 3.5. Just ultra smooth rosie pre applied by htc.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
One more video review and update from MWC 2012 - Detailed description of the One X and the One S. Seems like a whole new breed of bootloader unlockers will need to be spawned with this One series, because HTCDev is going to be the only way to do that initially! But that's still better than the time when our DS was first released... with no software unlocking at all!

[YOUTUBE]eCXgL7MDsIc[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
That HTC Rep is a legend! He respects XDA for what it is.

The HTC Sensation Line has Breen confirmed that its NOT receiving Sense 4.0, but a 'lite' version of it :(

This probably applies to us aswell when we get the updates later down the line..

Guess it'll be bet that we use a One V port instead of the official RUU if we want Sense 4.0
[HTC Desire S] freedompie:
Isn't all 2010 devices from HTC that is getting ics is getting sense 3.6 instead of sense 4?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
No, only some of the 2011 line up, and one device from 2010 - DHD
[HTC Desire S] Rueben_:
Yea the HTC One S is deff the successor to the desire s, great phone with a great size display as well. There were also other mid rage ( even though they may cost over £400 :/) phones announced at MWC like the Samsung Galaxy S Advanced, Sony Xperia P, One S and Huawei PS1 ( CES 2012 ) so they look all to be mid range, dual core qhd etc :)
[HTC Desire S] simeonoff:
So, to sum up. This is what we know so far... HTC One V will be released in April, presumably in the beginning of April. AFAIK, HTC have to release the kernel sources with the release of the device, correct me if I am wrong.

Another rumor says that ICS for the Desire S will be launched in April also. If that's true, I bet it would be by the end of April(nooot). So April is presumably a very good month for our device.

IMHO, I don't think that HTC will manage with the release of ICS for the Desire S even by the end of April. As you remember, they announced that the first devices to get ICS will be the Sensation, Sensation 4G and Sensation XE. That will (hopefully) happen by the end of March. Sensation XL will be a priority in April.

Then, if you carefully take a look at the list of devices made by HTC to get ICS 'later this year' you will see a pattern.

1. Rezound - Released 2011, November

2. Vivid - Released 2011, November

3. Amaze 4G - Released 2011, October

4. Evo 3D - Released 2011, July

5. Evo Design 4G - Released 2011, October

6. Incredible S - Released 2011, February

7. Desire S - Released 2011, March

8. Desire HD - Released 2010, October

As you can see, devices are listed to get ICS generally on the basis of "last produced, first to get". This puts the Desire S as one of the last devices to receive the update.

So realistically, HTC has put out 0 (zero) ICS devices on the market. Has pushed out 0 ICS updates to existing devices. They promise to push 3 new ICS devices on the market in April. And release 3 ICS (Sense 3.6, f**k marketing strategies) by the end of March. After that, there are still 7 devices to get ICS (Sense 3.6, haha), before we get ours.

Sorry for the long post, have nothing to do.

So... I'd better rely on the developers to cook a nice kernel from the One V sources that will be released in April, than wait on a official kernel sources for the Desire S...

Cheers,

Simon.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
That's pretty amazing. Just a few months ago the Sensation was the mighty highend phone to rule them all...

And DHD specs were ground breaking. Now those specs are in a low end device :p

Good observation.

Either way, i hate Sense 3.6. They made literally no upgrade, and even took away features.

E.g - now you CAN'T customize the lock screen shortcuts! :mad:

They will automatically be the same as the default icons in your app bar.. :mad:
[HTC Desire S] simeonoff:
I hate Sense in general, let alone 3.6. Version 4.0 is definitely a step forward. All I care about is the 3.0.x kernel source(please HTC release it sooner). The reason I long for ICS so badly is the hardware accelerated interface, opposed to the software render we now have in Gingerbread. Everything in ICS just looks better and runs better/smoother with GPU acceleration, or as Google calls it GPUI :p!

I am not too excited about the new ONE line of devices. I think my Desire S will get me through ICS just as fine. Buying a One Series device would mean having to wait for the Jelly Beans update the same I am waiting for ICS now... I'd just stick with my Desire S through ICS, and buy a Jelly Beans device around Christmas this year, when they release Google Nexus device, or whatever it's called.
[HTC Desire S] sanketjalan:
RAM is better in DS and the OS can be upgraded to match ONE V in DS.

In this case, if one needs to buy one of these phones today, which one is the better choice: Desire S (15k INR) or One V (16.5k INR)

---------- Post added at 10:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:11 PM ----------

RAM is better in DS and the OS can be upgraded to match ONE V in DS.

In this case, if one needs to buy one of these phones today, which one is the better choice: Desire S (15k INR) or One V (16.5k INR)
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Where do you get desire s for 15k inr?

Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
It's on saholic.com.. 15990/-!!!

Our resale value has gone for a toss... Who'll buy an old DS, when a new is available for 15-16K iNR.

:eek:
[HTC Desire S] SRT89:
Hey guys, can anybody give me some info about the music quality on those 2 phones? And is one v camera much better?

I'm really confused atm what to buy...

one v is imo better looking and lighter than desire s, and of course is newer device...

on the other hand there is much more Ram on desire s... But is it a real difference when it comes to a normal usage? (makin calls, texting, browsing web, some music, and less demanding games)
[HTC Desire S] ReznovHuang:
If you like taking photos,buy one v.

Memory isn't important.Nexus S also has only 512MB memory,but it works well with ICS,and it is hopeful to receive jelly beam OTA update...
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Memory is important. The difference between 512mb and 768mb is huge. The Nexus S is an exception because it's a google device but I would assume it still struggles at times.
[HTC Desire S] anazhd:
If you dont like multitasking, yeah you right, memory isnt important. Use nokia 3310. Right?
[HTC Desire S] Jack_R1:
It does, AFAIK. And Sense adds at least 70MB to memory consumption.

I believe you're right, and while 512MB is more or less sufficient, the current barrier between "more-or-less-sufficient" and "more-than-enough" memory passes somewhere close to 600-650MB. 768MB is definitely more than enough, everything more than that is a huge overkill.
[HTC Desire S] tuttifrutas:
I agree, i think android is suposed to be for low resources devices
[HTC Desire S] vulpine:
I have recently used htc one V and there are quite a lot of differences from our desire S contrary to what I thought.

The camera is better with photos having more details.

Rest... the os/ sense 4 is not that good!! it doesn't look as crisp and neither has smooth animations. It just isn't that good!!
[HTC Desire S] Specimann:
I have a Desire S and a Friend have a One V and un my opinion is the Desire Vetter then the One V.

greetz Specimann

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire S mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC Desire S] mufakir:
the phone we're ALL waiting for is the HTC Desire X
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Why are we waiting for that? It is almost identical to the DS, has a 4" screen at the same resolution as our device and it is out now - I've played with one.

The Desire X is distinctly a low-end phone now, whereas our DS was a premium phone 18 months ago.
[HTC Desire S] koncos:
still love my desire s:good:
[HTC Desire S] b0urne83:
i wouldn't change my DS nor for a One V or a Desire X. Especially now that I flashed Sabsa Prime rom. :cool:

If I'd like to take better pictures I use my photocamera. ;)
[HTC Desire S] Haomuch:
You are right about the status of these two models at their release time, except for the fact that you ignored DS is no longer a premium any more. And desire x actually performs much better than DS in camera and CPU, as well as the stock ROM. A 4 inch screen is also better for keyboard typing and many other things in industrial design perspective point, which is the reason the iPhone 5 also uses this size.

The real problem of desire x is, I think, it doesn't have a CM 10 ROM right now. But considering DS has not got a fully working cm 10, there is not much to say about it.
[HTC Desire S] dan_alexandre:
I get the argument that the desire s is not premium performance anymore but it feels like a waste of money to pay for so little more compared to what we have, personally I would rather aim for something with a clear performance boost.
[HTC Desire S] b0urne83:
I completely agree
[HTC Desire S] premsrj:
I bought my Desire S for 23000 INR, The One S is currently at the same price here.. But HTC screwed us, the processor is S3 not S4.. That's the only reason I've been holding off on a new phone. I definitely want a HTC device again.
[HTC Desire S] gadrdenboy:
Don't u want nexus 4?)you can wait when one x price will dicrease) dont think one v is a good continuing of htc history
[HTC Desire S] thepowerofone:
I wouldn't change my DS after I've started using a JB rom - as someone in the forum said, the software feels like it was intended for that device. I've also overclocked it to 1.5 and it feels really, really fast with JB. Recently they've fixed the front camera on JB roms, so now everything worksThe other thing about it is that it really fees like a solid build, which I cannot say about some new offerings from HTC. Or other manufacturers, for that matter.
[HTC Desire S] tnZ:
I like mit DS with ICE_DS and I wouldn't change. (:
[HTC Desire S] anazhd:
and yeah dont forget about other bugs. plenty of them. DS is not built to live in JB world. We depends on CM10 fixes, and portability to DS. . . for me, ICS with 800mhz clock speed is already smooth as butter :)

you'll will love the previous version more than this latest edition of ICE_DS . That's why I choose to leave ICE_DS and go on to fallout.
[HTC Desire S] tnZ:
I tryed ICE_DS 5.0 to 5.3 before and everything was nice. But 6.0 runs also very good on my DS. No problems with.

Maybe I switch nearly to JellyTime.
[HTC Desire S] jjeeff1013:
personally, i think One V isn't better than Desire S. we can tell from the price when they hit the market for the first time.

Desire S performs well, though it's loaded with older OS.

but all in all, One V sometimes performs worse than Desire S.
[LG Thrill 4G] darkoctavius:
All credits to Dan rossenberg

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1518771

Thanks Dan!!
[LG Thrill 4G] xterminater07:
What is the advantage of v20x versus the v21a for the lg thrill?
[LG Thrill 4G] cougargt:
Both v20a for LA and v20c for CA have the right basebands for the the US also
[LG Thrill 4G] akwhite23:
Flash it. You won't be sorry
[LG Thrill 4G] rebel1699:
Come again? Could you specify those by what country they are released for? Have no clue of LA and CA.
[LG Thrill 4G] kevace1:
just wanted to add that this worked on the first try for the v20c without a hiccup for me on a at&t thrill
[LG Thrill 4G] cougargt:
Sorry Latin American. And Canada.

AT&T Thrill on Rogers v20c without the bloat.
[LG Thrill 4G] poyensa:
Please use only one thread fro this topic. Continue here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1518778
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokerofchaos:
I somehow messed up my photon. It says failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode. I try to use RSD lite, and flash the sbf and it fails to re-enumration (sorry forgot how to spell it) But when I pull the battery and it boots back into rsd mode I tried to flash derpunlocker and it says failed to boot 0x2004 after it boots back up. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. Any help would be appreciated. (Sorry if I sound dumb)
[Motorola Photon 4G] androiderb89:
Is your photon unlocked? Does it show "unlocked" when you turn on your device? You might be able to flash the recovery if unlocked and then flash a rom :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokerofchaos:
No it doesn't say unlocked. It gives me some weird thing when trying to unlock it.

Svf 116:1:2

and then something about sec_exception b655

I will try to take a picture of it somehow to show or get the exact error it is giving me. Because it won't do anything but give me errors in rsd lite.
[Motorola Photon 4G] devastatorx:
Sounds like you flashed the electrify bootloader unlock. Double check the file you flashed when you started getting this error.

Sent from my MB855
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokerofchaos:
It is supposedly the one for the photon. I checked it again to make sure.
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokerofchaos:
I tried it just a minute ago. I was using derpunlocker.sbf It gave me the error on my phone (i'd take a picture but I don't have a way) The error it is giving me is

SVF: 106:1:2

sec_exception: b655, eddc, eb

On rsd lite it says phone did not re-enumerate after RAM downloader was sent. (0x703E)
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Go get 4.5.1A-1_SUN-198_7. Go back to Stock!!!
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokerofchaos:
I've tried that before and it gives me the same error, but I will try one more time.