yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
its worth the revisit. still haven't used a browser faster than this. now that flash is working really well on it, this will become the fav. again. getting tired of stock or ICS+ browser FC. I have boat also. its a nice browser, ill admit.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
Opera Next (beta) is not bad either

Had a look on the Opera site. Saw you could download Opera Next (beta).

I must say real smooth and not bad.

Will give it a try for a while
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
what is Opera Next beta? what are new features or difference from opera mobile on android? I might check it out.

edit: seems like its just a new opera mini. opera mini usually doesn't have flash support. I saw opera mini next. is that the one you talking about?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
yes you're completely right

No flash

My mistake

But smooth browsing
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Andreas527:
Really fast and good to get flash support.

And I think Opera Mobile is the only browser that you can use the little search button on XDA.

On other browsers the search box disappear when you try to enter text.. In Opera the search box works like on the computer.

Some sunspider results, lower is better

Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3

Browser: Opera Mobile 12

Tweak: OC 1.6GHz

Result: 1352.3ms +/- 0.7%

Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3

Browser: Chrome Beta. Version 0.16.4215.215

Tweak: OC 1.6GHz

Result: 1558.8ms +/- 1.9%

Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3

Browser: Chrome Beta.

Result: 1828.3ms +/- 1.8%
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
yeah, opera mobile always yells the fastest sunspider results. you see the screen flashing so fast on opera. on any other browser the test seems to take its time. plus I've gotten even faster time than you showed on opera before.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shadow205:
I had many freezes with the stock browser, I installed opera mobile and freezes no longer occur, this browser is very fast and fluid, is my favorite.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] luckyjj:
opera mobile needs the hardware acceleration and smoothness of opera mini next currently has. Opera mobile's scrolling is way too choppy in framerate.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maxfac1234:
digressing a little from the main topic... does Opera have adblock extension support for android?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
not sure exactly what you mean. if you mean within the browser itself, not sure. haven't seen anything like that. But if rooted, you could just use AdAway and it'll block all ads period. works very well and speeds up browsers even more because it not loading flash ads.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maxfac1234:
Sorry, yeah, I meant extension for the browser itself. I tried AdAway, it works, but as soon as I add more hosts file (totalling roughly 8megs of hosts file), the app crashed with out of memory error (which surprised me because it works on my samsung galaxy s phone running CM7). So currently I am manually copying the hosts file from my linux to ATP's /system/etc; with just minor alterations to make - a little of a hassle.

Thanks for reply.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
Op are you sure this update on Opera Mobile gives us flash.I looked at it last night but the update said nothing about flash.It did say something about having better support for the Samsung 7.7 or something.Another thing what is up with all the new permissions Opera wants now (being able to take video & pictures of what's on your phone)..they're getting a lot of complaints about it too.I love Opera but what gives?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Andreas527:
Yes Opera Mobile 12 have working flash on ICS 4.0 DEVICE.

Maybe Iam late to the party but with Opera i can run a video in the browser and the open a second window and i continue to hear the audio from the video playing on the first window.

From the description on Android Market for Opera Mobile

Added:

Support for more than 9 speed dials

WebGL support

HTML5 Camera (Android 2.1+)

HTML5 Device Orientation

HTML5 parser (Ragnarök)

Android Beam support (NFC)

Added Flash support on Android 4.0.3

RTL text support in UI

Turkish translation

Improved:

Keyboard support

Scrolling on high pixel devices (Galaxy Nexus)

Closing of tabs

SSL connection speed

Upgraded:

Presto core (2.10.254)

Permissions: see "http://bit.ly/opera_permissions"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] desert_mouse:
Opera mobile freezing after update

I have been lucky enough to have no problems until now with my Prime or the apps on it.

Unfortunately this update has made my Opera Mobile unusable. Within three minutes it freezes, usually after I've clicked on a link. :(

I've restarted the tablet to no avail. Will uninstall and reinstall Opera now.

Update: After reinstall the freezes continue, this time even sooner. Anyway, this problem along with their new permissions makes it an easy choice for me. I'm looking for something to replace it. Currently using Dolphin HD but keeping my options open.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
don't really see how. its very stable and hasn't froze or rebooted on me once since update. alot better than stock or ICS+ browser. plus I'm on .15. nothing wrong with Dolphin HD if it works for you. that's what's great about choice of browsers to use. Opera still the fastest n most stable around. now with flash support back n better, this my main browser again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] desert_mouse:
any insight would be appreciated. Most others are only complaining of permissions, not any other reports of crashes.

I've got a pretty vanilla prime in terms of customization. Meaning I don't think that something I did could be causing it. But I've tried it over and over to be sure... it keeps freezing almost immediately now. It becomes unresponsive and I have to force close.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Andreas527:
have you installed the right version? its Mobile and not mini you should use.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
I'm also getting crashes when I switch from full screen to minimizing when I stream Hulu. Same thing happens in ICS+ But it is super snappy! Question what does the Opera Turbo thing do? Should I have that enabled?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I leave it off. its like some server mode type thing. I think flash doesnt work with it on. puts it into a kind of opera mini mode. experiment n try out if curious. Look in opera help for exact definition of what it does.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Your right Flash wasn't working. I had Opera Turbo On initially then tried to stream Hulu and it was not happy haha
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] guyhoang:
Flash does work with opera turbo on.

Opera turbo compresses images. The rest of the web page is still rendered by the Transformer.

With Opera Mini, the whole webpage is rendered on Opera's servers and is then sent to the device.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] R00l:
Thank you for the update, I will have to check this out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] desert_mouse:
Yeah it was Opera Mobile. Never used mini before.

Update: I uninstalled it, did a cold reboot, reinstalled it and then did another cold reboot. Seems to be working fine now!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
great new..glad its working for you now. it's a great browser. plus the only browser to let you choose where you want downloads to go to. a mini file explorer pops up and lets you choose the folder you want. plus all downloads download fine on it. even large Oldsmobile. there's issue with stock browser messing up some large downloads. plus things tend to download faster through opera.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] desert_mouse:
Yeah now that I actually got it working on my Prime I can see the improvements already. Fast as usual and I saw right away they improved their start page.

Glad I gave it one more shot. Just wondering they need control of the camera, though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdynak:
I had uninstalled a few weeks back when there was no flash and seemed not much better than others.. glad the OP posted this.. it is much improved and happy so far although a few minor lockups when switching windows and such but normal browsing seems good.. have not had the "wait" popup on this yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fella1:
just installed Opera and it seems to be a really nice browser. However I can't get the videos on Amazon to work. Does anyone else have Amazon Prime and use Opera to look at the videos? So far the stock browser is the only one that I've been able to use for Amazon videos. Since flash is supported in Opera Amazon should work. Any other experiences with Opera and Amazon videos?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
In opera settings, by default user agent mode is set to tablet. Try changing it to desktop and reload page and see if that works. It works alot of time for me ln certain sites. So I leave it on desktop all the time. Mad that when I try to watch HBO go thru opera browser, it tells me unsupported. No matter mode I'm in. Only stock or opera browser lets me watch HBO go movies online.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] atsuisofu:
Opera for Android is amazing, I hope Google Chrome gets speed up by the time it comes out of beta cause it has serious potential.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Danny-B-:
I used Opera for a while, and although its decent, i still prefer the speed and usability of Dolphin HD ..
[HTC Sensation] status_six:
It seems high but not outrageous. You gave about 70-100mAh when not in use which is about what I had with factory rom. I assume all the usual things are done like GPS off, brightness low, wifi on etc.

Do you have poor signal, and are you using mobile data a lot? That increases battery usage.

To assess more fully the processes running I use system tuner pro. This allows you to see user, system & kernel processes and sort by memory, CPU time etc.

I currently see around 30-60mAh when idling.

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Hello,

thanks for reply.

My Signal is good (full-bars) Mobile Data is off, WIFI, GPS are off as well

and brightness low... but actually the screen is off when i am sleeping...

I understand smartphones use power, especially on mobile-data and WiFi, but I hate that feeling when I wake up and see my phone's battery dead....

never got as low as 30mAh even when completely not in use with everything off.

I will try to use System Tuner Pro - maybe will find out somethinh.
[HTC Sensation] status_six:
OK post back results perhaps I can help more.

I'm looking at STP now, using task manager I can see my top processes in terms of CPU time are:

STP

android system

Xda premium

Android keyboard

/system/bin/surfaceflinger

Gmail

System UI

do nothing untoward, I would expect those to be running given my usage right now.

Use STP to record a period when you sleep, you can then do this process check to see what's running.

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] silentsnow31802:
My battery is pretty much the same and I'm on a fresh ics install. This device seems to just suck a lot of battery. The screen especially.
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Hmmm my sensation XE used to have at least 1.5 times as much power (when used) and 2 to 3 times as much power when not used befor upgrading to 3.12, 3.24 and 3.30.

I know what you will tell - go back to Gingerbread.

I am actually considering this. but many people say with ICS their battery is better then ever before.

Is it ICS who sucks the power then?

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] boomboomer:
From your stats you are losing 1% in 5 minutes in standby, my sensation (with virtuous inquisition ROM) uses less than 1% per hour - that's with a good 4G connection in standby. My 1900mAh battery lasts over 24hrs with up to 6hrs screen on during that time.

To eliminate hardware flash a fresh ROM and firmware, boot a couple of times (don't install any apps) then remove the SD card and put the phone in airplane mode and leave it overnight on standby. If you're losing more than 1% per hour, then your phone may be faulty. If not then you'll need to try things one by one, turn airplane mode off, insert SD, then apps until you find the problem.

Looking at the instant mAh figures won't help you a lot, the battery driver for the sensation is useless and BMW has to estimate the figure.
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Thanks for advice.

Could you please let me know the firware you are using?

3.12, 3.24 or 3.30 ?
[HTC Sensation] boomboomer:
3.12. I had the 3.24 ready to load when VI 3.5 was released but everything worked fine on 3.12 so I left well alone.
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Ok here is what happened

1) i falshed new 3.30 RUU and ROM with fullwipe etc

2) booted the rom put it to settle fo 30 mins

3) rebooted 3 times

4) then charged to 100%, and switched airplane mode ON

with Airplane Mode on - I have lost 25% of battery during 3 hours without touching the phone. That makes 12 hours without using the phone at all.

I am starting wondering if it is not the firware that is causing the problems... Maybe i should go back to 3.12 or even earlier.

Anyone can please point me to some firmware earlier to 3.12?

I do not think it is a faulty phone, because I have 2 phones and both have same problem. and both started having this problem after upgrading to ICS...

let me know you thoughts and please a link to an earlier firmware (earlier than 3.12)
[HTC Sensation] oferyama:
battery drain

i would say you have normal operation .

mine is between 50-100 MA and yet when not using it during night in the morning i am still at 100%......

when keeping it for a whole day not using it i am droping from 100% to 87% for about 24 hours idle use ....

so i would say check your battery when it starts or is it from the day you got your device .....
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Thanks for reply, oferyama :)

Normal operation ??

You lose 23% in 24 hours while

me - I lose 1% every 5 minutes = teh phone is dead after 10 hours of idling.....

Probalby mAh reported vaules is incorrect, and the important thing is how many % you lose per hour
[HTC Sensation] status_six:
Did you flash a custom kernel at all?

What rom is this problem occurring with?

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
I have tried many ICS ROMS - Elegancia ICS, AnroidMe ICS, LeeDroid ICS = same problem. i also tried 3.12, 3.24 and 3.30 firmwares

but I cannot remember if the problem started when i upgraded to 3.12 or 3.24.....

From today I have 3.30 jsut for testing... and if everything fails - planning to go back to Gingerbread to see if it helps...
[HTC Sensation] amon87:
Hi umka, I had same problem as you. Try this to figure out what's eating your battery: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

I'm using VI 3.5.1 beta and battery drain varies from 30 to 82mA while not touching a phone at all on stock XE battery. While i'm typing this, I have 78% battery, phone is unplugged for 10h and 6 minutes. I'm using SebastianFM kernel 1.11 (this one: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64017594/HTC Sensation/Overclocked_kernel_v1.11_1512_MHz_by_SebastianFM.zip) on my Sensation XE. Radio is stock for FW 3.30. Adequate RIL of course. Lots of apps installed, many of them are disabled from autostarting. I'm using Shnizlon's theme (just aosp bar).

Desktop: minimalistic text with weather info, updating every 3 hours.

Hope this brief info will help you to figure something out.

Good luck!
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Thanks for reply - trying this right now....

Amon87, could you please let me know what was eating batery in your case?? I have just flashed a new ROM and did not isntall any applications at all... Where shoud I look at?

I was suspecting the radio, but i tried different ones... and i tried airplane mode - but even in airplane mode when radio shoud not make any difference the battery drain is terrible..

i will post you on the results
[HTC Sensation] status_six:
So no kernels flashed desperately to rom?

Did you have any results from STP finding the battery killer? Do you restore app/data after each flash e.g. with TiBu?

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] amon87:
Sorry to say, but i just don't remember the name of that app. For sure, main problem for me was radio and unmatching RIL.

I recommend you to try different kernel and change governor. I'm using system tuner pro to change this. When screen on: ondemand 192-1.51. Screen off: interactive 192-648MHz. But try powersave.

Another clue. Maybe somehow second core is constantly turned on?

What recovery are you using to flash roms, kernels etc? For me it's newest 4ext recovery test build.
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
1) In most case I used default kernels provided with the ROM (somtimes flashed custom ones)

2) I am not good yet at looking at STP and BMW stats - so amybe I am missing something, but so far I did not find the battery killer. How do you find the battery killer? a process using more than 10%-20% CPU or smth like that?

3) I used to restore the apps using Titanium Backup, but then, to find out the problem, i just flashed a fresh ROM and did not install any apps at all..

and still losing at least 10% per hour with DATA off, Mobile Network OFF, GPS and WIFI off and Airplan Mode ON.
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
- Well right now I do not have any apps installed yet, excpet those that come default with 3.30. So its definetely not an application.

- !!! Myabe it is indeed unmatching RIL adn RADIO - coudl you please give me more info on that? How do I find out what is matching. I am in Japan and i bought my phone in HongKong (so it shoould be asia) and default ROM was doing just fine... Could you please point me to correct RIL and Radio - or advice where to look?

- From what i have seen in STP yesturday - second core is off. not sure about now - cause i do not have STP installed after flashing stok 3.30

- I am using ext4 recovery latest.
[HTC Sensation] amon87:
In FW 3.30 there's radio 11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M. Matching RIL is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22857351&postcount=321

flash it in recovery as normal update (install zip from card, or wth like that ;) )

Install System Tuner Pro and try changing governors like i posted before.

If you have VI 3.5.1 beta or 3.5, open dialer and type: *#*#4636#*#* choose phone info and choose GSM auto (PRL)

//edit

have you tried mike's1986 SuperWipe?
[HTC Sensation] :
OK look in BMW>tests>usage statistics.

Sort by usage time and you should see if there is an unexpected process using battery.

Also check STP>task manager and sort by memory usage or CPU time to find the most active processes. Make sure you are displaying user, system and kernel processes by checking all the tabs at bottom right.

It might be worth posting a screenshot of the results

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Of course, I always superwipe before flashing new rom.

My Carrier is SOFTABNK JAPAN which is WCDMA - shoudl I still use GSM auto PRL? bettery drain is bad even with airplane mode on - so it should not related to battery drain - correct me if I am wrong..

thanks will try that and post screenshots...
[HTC Sensation] amon87:
GSM auto PRL is a mode, which uses slower network with stronger signal instead of faster with weaker signal. It makes battery to last longer :)
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
in STP>task manager i can only see Battery Monitor Widget. even when enabling SYSTEM and KERNEL.

I cannot find USER option thou - only EXCLUDED.

Am i doing somthing worng?

CPU usage is very unstable - it goes from 0% to 50%-60% but I can never see what app is using that much CPU. I am still on stock 3.30 with no apps installed (except BMW and STP)
[HTC Sensation] raggatokan:
Hi,

I am using Battery Monitor Widget too. My baterry drain is excellent, but i am using Mugen 1950. I'm charging my phone every day: unpluggin it at 6:00 and plug it in at ~23:30 or later with 40%-50% left.

Looking at Your battery history file from BMW

2012/02/27|15:15:36|-553mA|100%|4026mV|25.4oC|1|0

I can tell that:

1) Your phone lowest temperature is >25 o C! Mine lowest temperature is 22 o C.

2) Your highest voltage is 4026mV. Mine is 4206mV. I've got 4026mV at ~80%.

I don't know, maybe this is just because I am using Mugen battery, but i want to share this with You.

Another thing is that maybe Your battery was not calibrated properly (wipe batt stats) after first flashing ICS and then after going to 0% few times it broke. Li-Ion batteries should not be drain to 0%. It can be damaged because of that.

Read this great article about baterries:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3834773#post3834773
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Thanks fro advise, Raggatokan

Yes i have tried to calibrate the batery and wipe stats... an I also have stock and Anker 1900mAh batteries and both just get drained too fast...

It is not about the battery perfomance... its about hardware/software battery drain... the difference before and after upgrade to ICS is veeery big - maybe 5-6 times....

thsi cannot be explained by battery quality, and it would be a huge coincidence that 2 of my batteries just got bad as soon as i upgraded to ICS.
[HTC Sensation] amon87:
Have you tried flashing FW again? It's quite impossible both of your batteries got broken simultaneously. The problem is, i suppoose, software related.
[HTC Sensation] :
Sorry I meant excluded! Anything unrecognised in the battery usage stars in BMW?

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Fortunately I have one more battery - and still the drain is bad. :) so its not the battery 99.9999999%

nothig unrecognied -

When i chose Excluded - many processes come up - but all 0% usage. When i shut off "excluded" - nothing but BMW process shows up.
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Ok something is really wrong... here are my screenshots. I cannot see any process eating 50% of the CPU, but CPU loads just jups vrom 1% to 90% and back every 3 seconds.

here are the screens:
[HTC Sensation] :
That's normal as the CPU kicks in and out.

What's the media storage process - I don't have that one and its second on your list. Perhaps that's using the extra battery?

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[HTC Sensation] umka83:
I do not know what is Media Storage Process... but this should be some native process from Android OS as i did not install any apps yet...
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
I think I will try to flash new STOCK 3.32 Firmware and see how it works... if not - will proceed to GB downgrade...
[HTC Sensation] amon87:
Media Storage Process scans SD card. I strongly recommend you changing sd card or deleting /android and /data folder ond sd card. Check sd card for errors if possible.

It may be some kind of leftover of previous roms.

But one thing... When this whole battery drain started?
[HTC Sensation] :
OK progress! This scanning SD for media should only happen on first install AFAIK. It would certainly chew your battery. Is there a music/video app packaged with the rom? Could be the culprit. Check the settings of each or uninstall and reassess.

You can always dl 3rd party apps to replace if you find this is the issue.

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Hello guys,

As mentioned already I have tried to remove SD card completely. Also tried killing Media Process and it is no longer there...

- media process? Killed

- when is started? When upgraded to ICS first time?

- SD card? - i tried to remove, reformat and put in a new SDCard...

- latest firware? I have tried 3.32 now... with ARHD No changes or maybe unnoticed. I charged to 100% yesturday at 2:00am and went to sleep - woke up at 10:00am with 25% battery remaining. (Data, Wifi, everything off)

ahhhhh this is killing me.... 8 hours with no use... makes like 5 hours or less of normal use...
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
BTW is there any way to check if the battery was damaged or not?
[HTC Sensation] :
Hmmm. So it seems neither an app, process, the battery or could usage is using the battery.

Perhaps there is a hardware problem? If you can replicate the issue on stock rom, consider warranty repair?

Sent from my Pyramid-T
[HTC Sensation] umka83:
Thanks for replies

Well at least stock 3.32-relase had the same problem. Is there any way to find out if the batteries are faulty, and if it is possible to revive them?

Thanks