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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Plus the oonly reason they using snapdragon on 3g/4g models is because they have built in radio chips. So it makes perfect sense to use that. So they can keep it. If you have a phone that can tether an internet connection then it'll be silly to get 3g/4g version just to take on another bill and data plan. Ill stick with my unlimited data plan I have already n just tether off of it. Not enough bump in specs to make me want tf-700 over prime. Extra $100 not worth display resolution jump and a joke of front cam spec increase. Ill wait till at least tegra4/Wayne chipsets before getting hyped up for a new tablet again. Tegra4 will be here by the end of the year. Then tf-700 people will be pissed..lmfao
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Transformer Pad 300.. actually looks good with the new plastic back (especially the white one). Little surprised by the $400 price.. I was actually expecting $350 range... but considering that it is more or less the current Prime but with 16 gb storage, no IPS+ display, no FLASH for camera, and weight more.. I guess the $400 price makes sense.

I wonder if the docks for Transformer Pad 300 are the same or different (due to thickness difference) to Prime's dock...

Either way, I can see retailers selling it as Prime but with 16gb storage.. instead of 32gb/64gb.

Also, as of yet.. not much is being shown when it comes to Tegra 3 products. If you take out HTC One X (world version) ... we haven't seen any new Tegra 3 products. So far.. Tegra 3 is following the fate of Tegra 2.. mostly in Tablets. However, in Tegra 3's case.. only the chinese/taiwan OEMs are producing Tegra 3 tablets so far...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaypm:
according to some of the reports coming out today it looks like there are two other changes to note:

1) the tp700 is a bit thicker due to a larger battery (but as stated, less total battery life, presumably due to the higher res display and also likely due to the higher clocked tegra3)

2) according to the specs on anandtech, the tp700 lost its microSD card slot (!)

of course, it's hard to get a final confirmation BECAUSE THESE PRODUCTS STILL DON'T EXIST, WON'T EXIST AT POS FOR 3-5 MORE MONTHS, AND ARE STILL LIKELY TO CHANGE.

also note some reports already stating that initial availability of the tp700 will be thin due to the low expected yields of the new HD panel. and you thought tf201s were hard to find? tp700 holdouts, have fun hunting.

however i do agree with the other comments suggesting that the tf201 will disappear once the tp300 and tp700 hit. the tf201 just doesn't fit into the new line-up as far as segmentation goes. and the whole all-aluminum backplate thing has been such a publicity nightmare that asus definitely wants to sweep this under the rug and move on. tp300 is the new tf101, tp700 is the new tf201 and that's that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nguyenmd:
The prime will be the first tablet collector item. It will be discontinued, and the new 300 will cost more.

I am very happy with my flawless ATP.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Hehe quad core samsung chip will below everything away I hope the s3 looks like that I will buy it instantly almost no bezel!

http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...al&utm_campaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaypm:
you need to do some homework... krait is going to smoke everything else on the market thanks to the 28nm manufacturing process and an updating A15 architecture. plenty of early benchmarks are circulating and confirm this.

there are very few operations you would do on a tablet/phone form factor that would need or use four cores simultaneously. what you perceive to be great performance from the tegra3 is primarily due to the higher clockrates of the A9 cores (1.4ghz) and the relatively fast GPU.

the low-power companion core is a true architectural benefit of tegra3 and may result in tegra3 winning on battery life, although with a 28nm process and aggressive voltage/clock scaling krait may still be able to top it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Andreas527:
Agree. Not worth to change the Prime for the TF700 of you don't absolutely need the higher resolution or just want the newest product.

2 things that would have make me change tablets is, USB 3 and faster internal storage. Feels like they make fast cpu but have slow storage that slows down the system.

Have someone find out if the new models have been updated with faster internal storage?

And is the Tegra3 1.6GHz the same as the TF201? But just OC?

See that's its named T33. Isn't the chip Prime have named T30? Or have I been dreaming.

Wasn't their suppose to be a Tegra3 + released before the Tegra 4?

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Just wondering.. but.. DO ppl consider PRIME as PREMIUM device for having IPS+ display and extra 16gb storage?

The only PREMIUM difference between Transformer Pad 300 and Prime is the IPS+......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
How awful lol

I actually like having some bezel, so that I can hold it multiple ways and still see my screen :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Prime fits perfectly into segmentation line and price range.

1)You going to have the lowest end memo. The cheapest @ 250 or so.

2)Then the tf-300 which replaces OG transformer at $400. Don't forget its tegra3 is needed with a lower clock speed, no ips+ display, no flash, on 16gig onboard memory, alot lower battery life than prime

3)Then you premium Prime model, current version, @499..best value and sweet spot

4) tf-700 with Higher Res display, joke of a front cam spec upgrade, gorilla glass2, 1.6Ghz speed enabled(p.s. in case you didn't know, we already doing this on current prime..lol) tegra3

This will be @ $599

5)tf-700T/infinity model with only difference being 3g/4g model with S4 snapdragon chipset since it has built in radio chip. Less battery life than prime on both versions of tf-700.

This will be around $699 or higher + cost of a good data plan

So that's a tablet for each price range and segment. How in da? !#& doesn't prime fit in then? Lol. As much as some would love to see Prime die off, it ain't happening. Already been officially stated. These other tablets will be nice. But I'm glad i didn't wait also and sticking with the Prime. Ill get excited once Tegra4/wayne tablets get announced/released near end of year. It'll still be at least a few months at the earliest till these new Asus tablets hit the market. If you wait that long, and get one. Then you gonna be pissed once Asus announces new tegra4 tablets..lol

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No you actually need to do the homework....lol. those b.s. benchmarks they showed were compared to Prime running balanced mode. Very stupid not to put prime in performance mode and do benchmark tests. Plus with us already using 1.6Ghz speed on 4 cores means more powerful than dual core s4 chip. They didn't benchmark prime at 1.6Ghz against s4 chip either. And I wonder why? Lmfao. Plus all this 28nm hype is b.s. tegra3 at 40nm and still pulling better life. Plus s4 chip has lower spec gpu. Can we say laggy UI or games. Lol

Its gonna be a good battle, no doubt. But don't assume just because some chip is at 28nm its automatically better. NVIDIA already planned for tegra3 to be competing and compared to smaller die chips. Thsts why tegra3 still has performance and battery life equalbto or surpassing smaller chips. Plus they should overall benchmark scores killing S4. Read the article more closely buddy ;)

WHO NEXT? lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeUser:
Same here, Wayne and Grey will reshuffle the deck. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
You forgetting they dumbed down the tegra3 in it also. Lower speed. No flash Plus 300 has lowest battery life of all new Asus tablets announced. More than enough to make prime more premium model. The 300 with its dock is barely reaching prime battery life on tablet itself.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I doubt most care about FLASH...

And the 100 mhz isn't much(i still don't get this reason if it is true), and as you have pointed out.. can easily be overclock back to 1.6ghz just like Prime.

Battery life, due to better RAM (DDR 3 instead of DDR 2 you find in PRIME).. can be considered PREMIUM.. but Ultimately... the only PREMIUM difference between PRIME and Transformer Pad 300 is IPS+ display. While it does sound PREMIUM for novice, but to those in xda forum.. does IPS+ display alone make it PREMIUM for you?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Correct. Tegra3 in tf-700 is exactly same as one in prime except the 1.6Ghz speed is enabled by default. In prime you need to be rooted to enable same 1.6Ghz speed. We've already been running at that speed for longest time now.

Yes there was supposed to be a Kal El+ or a refresh of tegra3 but I think they completely skipping that now and going to tegra4/Wayne setup next.

To jaypm also, who is to say tegra3 won't get aggressive volting/undervolting and overclocking also? We already have developement rolling now. By the time these tablets drop, we will be pushing 1.8-2Ghz+ speeds ;) plus we haven't even overclocked the GPU yet.

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True..I see your point. Regardless if people want more onboard memory and higher performance out the box with better display, prime will be that device for next price range up. Therefore there will be a tablet from Asus containing tegra3 for all price ranges people can afford. I doubt we will hardly see anyone downgrading from a prime to a 300 model. Its all about choice. How much you want to spend on a tablet. Tf-700 is in the very expensive price range IMO.

I believe the memo model might actually turn out to be the best selling model. At only $250 price range with tegra3, its a great value for the price you paying.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I find it interesting that you keep bringing up $279-299 range for 7 in. Tegra 3 tablet.. when.. as far as we know from CES.. it'll be $250.

Also, I agree.. I doubt people will downgrade from Prime to Pad 300 at this point (although, you never know if Asus hands out refunds without all the scavenger hunt that a people must go through)....

BUT.. what if they were released at the same time? I'm sure most would have purchase Pad 300... and, it just might be the case in the future when Pad 300 comes out. At this point, I'll believe GARY and that Prime won't be discontinued... but I have to wonder how much support it'll get from Asus if the sale figures are poor once Pad 300/700 and 7 in. tablet drops.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
You noticed that Asus are rebranding the tablets? Looks like to me they are phasing out the prime.. See the they are calling the TF300 the Transformer Pad 300 while the TF700 is being called the Transformer Pad Infinity.. Seems to me as soon as the Transformer Pad 300 is released the TF101 will be phased out, so when the Transformer Pad Infinity gets released will the Prime get the same treatment? Maybe I am just speculating it, but it seems to me with the rebranding they are trying to wash their hands clean. Maybe the Prime is better of with Hasbro than with Asus. Like I said from the beginning, we were just beta testers with the Prime and the Transformer Pads 300 and Infinity are the results.

http://finance.sfgate.com/hearst.sfgate/news/read?GUID=20723228
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] benefit14snake:
I see alot of people stating that because it is 28nm it will be leaps and bounds above 40nm. Does anyone here keep up with cpu or gpu architectures for the last 10 years or so? Like I said originally , at first it won't be a huge difference. Most energy effectiveness comes from aggressive power gating and newer architectures. While power draw is a measurement of volts x amps (as voltage increases, power goes up exponentially) the difference in volts will probably be. .1-.05 difference in voltage. This is not very substantial. MOST improvements will come from a new architecture. Look at and athlon 64 bit cpu. From 130nm to 90nm MAYBE 10% difference in power and overclocking. So IF the new architecture delivers like it says it see and its not a flop (see amd bulldozer) then krait and the a15 cousin will be great, but they won't really shine for 6 to 12 months once the 28nm matures a bit.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techie2012:
I wish I knew WHEN the TF700T will be available. That would be the decision factor for me if I would keep the Prime or not. Don't want to wait too long without a tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
OK..I was a lil off on the price..sue me ;) still cheap price regardless. Plus for it to hahave a tegra3 in it will make it very tempting to buy over similar priced tabs with way lower specs.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Btw, Transformer Pad 300 looks really good.... don't you think Demandrin? I'm sure you want the white Transformer Pad 300....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Maverick777:
According to the official specs from Asus, the microSD slot is still there.

http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/

I'm curious if there's an actual difference between the T30 and T33 chips aside from clock speed.

Honestly, if the current Prime had a new backplate that fixed the GPS/Wifi issued, I'd just get the current model.

As it is, I'll probably get the new Infinity model if it comes out reasonably soon. It'll be interesting to see what the iPad 3 brings to the table next week.

If the iPad 3 manages to get 15+ hours battery life, it'll make it interesting for Android tablets. The rumored 14,000 mah battery is drool worthy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Hmmm... Im a little bit confused.. Now at CES Asus introduced the Transformer Prime TF700. Now at the MCW Asus has introduced the Transformer Pad Infinity wifi and 4g version. What is the difference between the Transformer Prime TF700 and Transformer Pad Infinity wifi version other than the name? Or are they the same tablet but rebranding? Or if all 3 are going to be out how is the pricing going to be?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Shinzz. I saw your one comment on has anyone realized not much of a showing From Tegra3? How do you figure? Lol lets count them out then ;)

All these are tegra3 devices:

1)Asus memo 7 in tablet

2)tf-300

3)tf-300 The Prime ;)

4)tf-700 infinity or whatever

5)Asus padaphone

6)HTC One X new flagship phone for HTC

7)an LG phone..can't remember the name but can easily find and pull it up for ya

8)new Lenovo tablet

9)new Acer tablet

10) new Audi model car going to have tegra3 chip in its onboard computer

11)windows 8 tablets from Asus said to be running off tegra3 also.

That's already 11different devices or more out already or announced since late December/early January release of Tegra3. Plus more devices will follow. Ummm...looks like alot of tegra3 devices coming out to me. If I find more ill add to this list. Tegra3 is very relevant and will be prevalent in 2012 mobile tech.

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It does..lmao can't lie. Honestly if I would've never bought a prime yet and wanted to save more cash plus still get a great tablet, I would've bought a tf-300. I did want an OG transformer before I heard about prime but they were sold out. Best buy black Friday had OG transformer for only $250. I should've known better that they would be sold out by the time I got in the door..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jptech:
The infinity will come with either a wifi-only tegra3 or a wifi+LTE snapdragon s4
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
11 different devices from Chinese/Taiwan OEMs. Yea.. I forgot about the Audi model cars, and LG Optimus 4X....

But.. like I said.... Tegra 3 is mostly found in Tablets from Chinese/Taiwan OEMs.

You have to realize that Samsung alone will make multiple devices...

As far as we know, we know that Motorola is partnering with Intel... Samsung is releasing Exyno devices, Sony is .. so far.. mostly going with Qualcomm/TI...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
I mean if the only difference is the 300 has no flash, no Super IPS, a lower clock speed, and 100 dollars cheaper.. Seems to me a better deal. Who needs a flash anyways on a tablet when we have phones and cameras and few will be in direct sun? the clock speed can be tweaked up since we know tegra3 can handle up to 1.6Ghz, plus you have 3 colors to choose and 100 dollars still in your pocket.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
OK. But we all know Samsung is a big player and has deep pockets. Plus they more focused now on producing their own chips.

Most other companies or devices I mentioned don't make their own choosers. They rely on others for their chips. I wouldn't expect Samsung to use a tegra3 or other chipset if they now focused on using their own supply of chips. Which are great also by the way. I like Samsung. I actually wanted a galaxy tab 7.7 but wasn't out yet. Plus I plan on getting a Galaxy Note..the 5.3in Phablet..lol

Other than companies we both listed, there aren't any other major ones out there. I think instead of Android competing with devices in itself, we need to be focused on the bigger picture/Enemy. Thats apple IOS and the arrival or Win8. Android so busy competing in specs wars with other fellow related Android tablets that Apple n Windows might blindside us.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Exactly.

That TF300 looks super sexy...lol. These new tablets are most definitely replacing the TF201 with better functionality. http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/asus-transformer-pad-300-hands-on/

;)

Take my money now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
You forgetting a major factor also, lower out the box onboard memory @ only 16gb. Regardless if it has memory card slot or not. 16gb is not enough for slot of people. Not everyone immediately goes out n get a decent size micro SD card. For the price, of course 300 is better but for the features included, Prime trumps it.

Same statement you said about features you think are meaningless to people can also be said about GPS spec. ;)

For me, nothing wrong with splurging every now and then. Prime was a gift to myself since it was 2yrs. I had ipad1. So I expect to keep prime for long time or until I see what the tegra4 devices looking like. As long as people stay within tegra3 or Asus family, we all family then :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Oh yeah, its slightly thicker because it has a plastic backing.. but the wifi and gps range and performance will be increased to that of the prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I have deep roots in Windows dev... thus, I'm waiting/looking forward to Win 8. The SoC I'm actually looking forward to is Intel Medfield (the dual-core variant.. not the single core) & its Win 8 tablets.

But as far as Android goes... you're right. Which is why it puzzles me when you defend Tegra 3 & Nvidia as if it is something very personal to you. =P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Engadget quote: " Though it does resemble the other tablets in ASUS' lineup, the company has clearly tinkered with the design as it presumably positions this thing as more of a lower-end device".

300 will be a good device. But out the box, prime has more functionality/features. No where in article you linked its said 300 has more functionality..lol.

I do love that red though..lmfao

shouldn't you be playing with your PS Vita anyways? Lol. I think you still want a 20th prime badly since you hang around so much even though you got rid of your tablet.

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Its like I go out n buy a new car with 500hp engine. Then some people come along talking of an even newer car coming with 525hp or so. Then they try to say how bad my car is or how it sucks. Ill defend my purchase. Especially if I'm happy with it. That's all. Plus this is all not that serious. Its all fun n amusing to me. I love technology in general.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Damn, missed the 16Gb. Thanks. Oh well, that why its great it still has a micros sd slot :D.

Well this is because if its written down on the spec and it doesnt work, people feel robbed because they paid for it. But the 300 states what it has to offer and the price shows for it (although we can assume the GPS will work perfectly even if its not listed).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
From Engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/asus-transformer-pad-300-hands-on/

"As for the display, we're undecided as to whether you'll notice the step down to IPS from Super IPS+ (that's a 600-nit panel, for those of you not up on your marketing jargon). Indoors, at least, we were still able to view the screen at a wide assortment of angles. Obviously, though, if you buy into the Transformer lineup, you're presumably doing so with the hopes of buying that signature keyboard dock too. Use that and you'll enjoy the tablet head-on without having to place it flat on the table."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaypm:
how is any of this relevant to the conversation? we already know you're full of post-purchase rationalization and love your tf201, you cream this all over every thread in the forum. nobody said they WANT to see the prime "die off", the discussion is about where asus is moving with the product line and what is actually happening.

did you notice, for example, that they did not announce a rebranding of the "eee pad transformer prime" to, say, "transformer pad prime"? the marketing strategy says it all. there is a new line-up of "transformer pads" coming and the numerous flavors span a full spectrum of segments from budget to premium. i'm sure asus will sell a few million tf201s before it is EOL'd, but i'd put down good money that the tf201s won't be on the market anymore by xmas... and that "transformer pads" will.

ugh. you're such a fanboi that trying to have any kind of objective discussion with you is futile. it's like asking a jesus-freak whether god exists.

i am not making "assumptions" about this chip due to it being fabd at 28nm. as i said, krait chips are already being sampled and measured in the real world. the silicon isn't even final and the results are already crushing everything else in MOST respects, yes, including your beloved tegra3.

the performance improvements are architectural, some elements from the cortex A15 design, but largely qualcomm's own optimizations. krait can decode 3 instructions per clock (vs. 2 for tegra3), has an 11 stage pipeline (vs. 8 for tegra3), 128-bit data path (vs. tegra3's 64-bit), bigger L2 cache, multi-issue of floating point instructions, etc etc blah blah blah. this isn't bull****, these are the types of changes that make chips faster clock-for-clock.

the 28nm process will allow krait to run at lower voltage, but power consumption is still a big unknown. it really depends on how effectively the chip will be able to step down voltage and clocks while idle and at light loads. we just don't know yet. that's why i said tegra3 may win in that department. or not.

there is still some good news for tf201 owners. first, initial krait chips will ship with the adreno 225, which seems roughly on par with tegra3's gpu, so no big advantage there. the second thing to be confident about is that tegra3 is clearly one of the best, if not the best of the A9 chips on the market. so it should have good longevity in terms of its ability to handle apps and games for the foreseeable future.

but seriously. read. please.

architectural overview of krait along with initial performance previews:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3

edit: removed some erroneous references to A15 in an ironic twist