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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ravynmagi:
Toll free data for some apps. I can't even remotely see why this would be a bad thing if some developer actually wants to pay for my data. I imagine it'll probably be reserved for people that say subscribe to a service with the app, like Spotify or something. Gives the developer another bragging feature, "free data" in a day where people worry about their data limits.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drae52:
Like say... 1800 numbers?

And they're so proliferate that they needed 1888, and 1866.

Think of apps like spotify, how awesome would it be to have streaming apps not count towards your monthly data cap? I'm sure companies can get better data rates if they're buying a million gigs a month rather then the 2 you buy; and then the developer can keep the difference.... or pass it along to the subscriber.

it's a great business move for AT&T.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] milan03:
Welcome to AT&T, the most blatantly greed driven Wireless Company on Earth. And proud about it... :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ravynmagi:
Maybe. But in this case it sounds like it potentially should be good for the customers. I assume like was mentioned earlier, the data may be sold in bulk to developers at a better rate, and the customers should get a better deal out of the entire thing by getting free data with a service they want.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] milan03:
Most definitely, that's not the case. But a very nice idea...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nexcellent:
I completely understand - my personal opinion is that the data that the consumer is using should be of no concern of the developer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imnuts:
How would the data monitor on your phone know what apps were "free" data and what wasn't? Great idea in theory, but that great new feature in ICS with monitoring and alerting you of your data usage won't work properly. If Google would put a method to ignore data from an app, what would be there to prevent a rogue app from taking advantage of it to hide its own data usage?

This is all just a way for AT&T to make more money as I'm sure there will be customers that don't use close to all of their data if this would go into effect, and I doubt AT&T would call you and say "You don't need as much data as you're paying for, you could pay less". So you'll have two people paying for the same data transferred now, rather than just one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
It's only a great business move if you think AT&T's business model revolves around selling bulk data. It isn't. Wireless data is a function of wireless spectrum. Since there is finite spectrum (particularly for AT&T who played a higher risk game than Verizon did and lost), there is a finite amount of data that can be pushed around. When voice was the killer app for phones, they had loads of spectrum and they used the excess spectrum to push unlimited data and whatever data-hungry application they could to get people to subscribe to a data plan. In such a scenario, the game really is to incentivize as much usage as possible to maximize assets (towers, backhaul, spectrum licenses) and entice even more people to buy data plans, increasing revenue.

Now that AT&T is facing a spectrum crunch, their game is to keep peak data usage roughly where it is now (at a asset maximizing level) while maximizing revenue per GB. Tiered data plans are not about network management. It's about milking the tech savy users who are most likely to be able and willing to pay for higher data plans. With such a business model, it becomes clear that this is a ploy to double dip by charging the sender and receiver. This is the same game AT&T was playing last year (when they complained about how they didn't/don't get a piece from YouTube or Netflix).

In short, it's about raising more revenue from existing assets. I.e. you pay the same rate you do now + devs now pay AT&T too. Maybe you get a nominal discount in the form of a few extra MB's per month, but you'll more than make up for it with higher app fees. Because you have to convert GB's to dollars (and I doubt they'll show you how much "free" data you even get) it's hard to tell whether or not you end up better off. Rest assured, they've done the math and set rates so that you won't.

If you want to know a bit of inside info (well, it's not that inside, they put it into their financial statements) wireless companies in the US have a roughly 30% gross margin on wireless. Some things, like individual plans, SMS packages, and international services are much higher, but they're dragged down by those $9.99 add-lines and (now, they used to be the cash cows) data plans. That's not the transport cost, which is almost zero, but the cost of infrastructure, capitalized spectrum and debt servicing) So if you want to do some napkin math with me here, imagine you use 1GB of wireless data while using Netflix. Netflix signs a contract for data sponsorship with AT&T. They get a bulk discount, but AT&T isn't going to take a loss, or even break even, so they're going to charge ~$8 per GB. Netflix, assuming they want to maintain their current margin, will thus have to charge you roughly $15.99 per month.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
You know in the grand scheme of things, I love paying taxes. Don't get me wrong though. I don't mind paying taxes that kings of old would envy that allow us to enjoy the lifestyles we live. But i hate double dipping. And i hate when corporations play poor mouth and whine about not making enough profit. The high profile banker that left a literal tip on the receipt, "get a real job!" needs to take his own advice for instance. Blatant robbery if the article is taken at face value.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xuinia:
Today my sd card decided to die. There was ext3 partition on it so phone keept restarting(leedroid rom was installed). So I decided to upgrade to a newer version of leedroid. It recomended using newer version of radio (32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08

). So I flashed my radio using recovery menu. No errors apeared. After I pressed "reboot system", phone reboted couple time (as it should) and nothing else happens. It just hangs with little red circle in the middle. Waited half an hour, but still same circle and nothing is happening.

I can still get into recovery menu, but if I try to flash a new rom or new radio same story happens. Everything goes fine till its suppose to boot, then it hangs.

When I bot with the power+volume down, I get:

BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.93.0001

TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101

RADIO-5.17.05.23

Phone was S-OFF before, why its s-on now? Maybe thats the problem?

Any ideas how to unbrick it?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] optiplus1:
try to format sd first partition Fat32 second partition ext 3 or 4

or if bricked

try to flash 4EXTRecovery (how to do @ developer forum) , ... has option to unbrick
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xuinia:
Problem solved.

It was bad ext3 partition on sd card. Got new transcend sd card, but gparted couldnt see it. Used some software from windows to format it to ext3. And it messed up that partition I gues. Changed sd card to adata, formated using gparted live cd, installed leedroid rom and everything works. Another good thing about it, that lag from android dissapeared. Probably old sd card was slowing system down.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] hipwell:
trying to downgrade my flyer, ive got all the files, installed htc sync to get the drivers. Plugged in the phone with usb debugging enabled and all the drivers installed fine.

when i double click on adb to do the first set of commands it opens for a split second and goes off...

where am i going wrong?

EDIT - sorry, please close!
[HTC Sensation] baste07:
thanks! working on my sensation XE ARHD 6.3.0

---------- Post added at 08:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 AM ----------

oh and btw the path should be /system/app/Mail.apk and not \system\app\Mail.apk
[HTC Sensation] omar302:
Does this by any chance, also sort out the bug where upon a restart the send/receive setting are reset?
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
Was it based on ROM framework or it was an independent APK ?

I will try to do the same mod into S4X ...
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Thanks... OP edited.

I just modified the exchange security thing. I dont think this is solved.
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
The original APK is taken from AHRD 6.3.0 (HTC Sense 3.6 Rom). It is based on HTC framework.
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
That will not be easy to do it in S4X ...
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
I have posted the changes that I made. You can try in S4X, i hope these should work.
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
Let me extract sense 4.0 mail.apk to compare.

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Did it work for you?
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
No go ... sense 4 framework is different.

---------- Post added at 05:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:35 PM ----------

BTW, another way to mod the file is via ES File Explorer with root access. Copy & overwrite & change the permission.
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
I have never used ES File Explorer so didn't do that.

Can you give me Sense 4 Mail.apk? I will try to mod it.
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
Here you go !!!

Enable the "install from unknown sources" ya ... :D

View attachment 924902
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Try this if it works.

Do backup your current Mail.apk and replace the attached file with your Mail.apk and follow the steps in post 1.

If it works I will add this apk to opening post.

*** MOVED ATTACHMENT IN FIRST POST ***
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
Ok ... restoring the S4X nandroid ... Cross the finger ;)
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Waiting for a good news...
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
EXCELLENT !!!! it works on Virtuous S4X B.3.

Now syncing my exchange mail without the encryption & pin ... :)

But the "Install from unknown source" remain disable after activate the policy.
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Thanks for Testing. I will update the OP and add it in.
[HTC Sensation] EDD!E:
BTW, beside adb push in the APK, alternate way will be root file access & direct insert into the ROM before flashing the new ROM.
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
If any Rom developer would like to he can do it when he is cooking....
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Try the apk attached on the post above yours. It is taken from one x and is working.

I will be moving that APK to OP, so if you dont find it here, find it in OP.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
I checked the post and it does say "Moved to OP". Checked the OP and the last update to it was back in April (from the log) and I only see the original two Sense 4 apks. :(
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
:P You checked between the time i updated removed the attachment and was updating the OP.

Check now its waiting for you there
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
Confused

Hehe

Maybe I'm missing something...

I did the following...

1) Rename the original apk (Mail.apk) to Mail.apk.old

2) I installed the new apk (Mail-Sense4-OneX-Energy.apk) to /system/app/Mail.apk

3) I went to Settings->Apps->All->Mail and FORCED STOP, then cleared cache.

4) I setup my corp exchange server

5) I had a notification saying I needed to accept policy changes

6) I clicked on the notification, then hit the OK button on the notification box

7) It then loaded a screen telling me everything the corp server admins wanted to have control over.

8) I hit cancel.

9) Email will not sync.

What am I doing wrong? Should I have taken a different path?
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
I would recommend to use the scripts as in OP.

I think you need to remove the apk first, but i have totally forgotten so the best bet is to use the automated scripts.
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
So I tried to use the script...

Now I have only a Mail.apk in /system/app/ and when I try to run Mail I get the loathed "Unfortunately, Mail has stopped working" message... :(
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Strange why its not working for you...

Can you get the logs off the device and post it here
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
Sorry bro, new to android ... Where would I find them at?

BTW, I booted up to CWM and cleared my cache and dalvik cache just to see if that helped....

...

Did that and it went through and "Updated Android"...

It fixed whatever issue that was happening... Now it opens up fine. Added the account and it's still asking for the policy changes... :(

Any other ideas?
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
I think now you should try installing the new Mail apk with scripts. If it still doesnt work then we need some one with HTC one x to tell you how they did it.
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
Yea, already tried that... :/ Not working for me... :(

Do you think it could be from having a different ROM?

I'm using CleanROM2.2 and eac was using Energy_5.25.2012 ... My original apk was a different size then his... Just working if that would matter...
[HTC Sensation] ulrakhma:
setting not remembered

I have ICS 4.0.3 Android Revolution HD 6.6.5, installed new Mail-Sense3.6-ARHD-6.6.3-v2.0.apk. After changing Settings->Send & Receive Message format from plain text to HTML, it stays for about an hour, then reverted back to plain text.
[HTC Sensation] Stevemann:
Hi, Checked with original mail.apk. I have attached the right one this time. Please tweak...thanks.
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
Rathore4u, anyway you might be able to mod my mail.apk I uploaded so I can see if that works for me?
[HTC Sensation] ssip96:
Would be very glad to see this on my HTC One X too.

thanks so much.
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
ssip96,

A Few Questions...

1) What type is your One X, AT&T or Int?

2) What ROM are you running on your HTC One X, Stock, CleanROM?

3) Have you tried any of the others in the OP to see if they would work for you?
[HTC Sensation] Slarty73:
hi rathore4u,

is it possible to make a similar mod for htc amaze 4g ics mail.apk?

it would be great if you can mod this one...

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[HTC Sensation] ssip96:
1) Int.

2) Stock.

3) Nope. didn't even unlock my bootloader yet ( :eek: , i know... ). i wasn't in any rush to root my device just yet. however if there is a mod to bypass this annoying exchange policy that works...

just wanted to know if it actually worked for anyone else on HOX before i go ahead and root my device to get it.
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
Yea, apascual89 had the One X Int as well and it worked for him. I talked with him a bit on Google Talk but never could get my One X (At&t) working... :/
[HTC Sensation] ssip96:
Right. Guess I'll go ahead and root first chance i get. Could you please point me to the steps he followed to do so? which file he used? did he mention performing any additional steps?

thanks.
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
From what I understood, he just followed the OP on the first page. And used the Mail-Sense4-orDroid-2.1.1.apk...

Real simple steps... I'm big on being able to undo things so I like to leave backup files...

If you understand adb and know how to use it then simply do the following...

1) Get the MailPatch-Script-v2.0.zip file downloaded, extract it to a dir on your PC.

2) Get the Mail-Sense4-orDroid-2.1.1.apk and put it in the same directory renaming it 'Mail.apk'.

3) Make sure you have the HTC Drivers installed on your PC for the phone. (important)

4) Plug up phone, set it to CHARGE ONLY, do NOT use drive access!

********* NOTE **********

This assumes you have installed a new ROM like CleanROM/EnergyMOD/etc and are NOT using the stock ROM. If you are planing on using the stock ROM (you shouldn't) then you will have to use something like Root Explorer to make the system R/W and then push the apk package to the sdcard first, then with Root Explorer move it to the /system/app/ directory after you rename the original Mail.apk app. (If you need more help in this case let me know)

Also please keep in mind that I'm just trying to help as I have not gotten this to work on my phone yet... Hoping to hear back from the OP in modding my apk package. ;)

********* NOTE **********

5) Then run the following commands from the dir on your PC...

a) c:\root> adb devices

b) c:\root> adb shell mv /system/app/Mail.apk /system/app/Mail.apk.bak

c) c:\root> adb push Mail.apk /system/app/Mail.apk

That will install the new modded Mail app and SHOULD make it NOT ask you for a policy change.
[HTC Sensation] sanchez:
Just a heads up, on the Evo LTE, the One X Mail.apk doesn't exclude the password, I had to use the Sense 4.0 2.0 listed in the OP.

Thanks!!!!!!!!
[HTC Sensation] arvo.bowen:
Works With AT&T HTC One X

OK I have no clue what in the world I was doing wrong or why I discarded this apk in the beginning... But all I can think is when I had a stock ROM for my AT&T One X the Mail-Sense4.0-Fixed-v2.0.apk would not run on it.

Since, I have changed my ROM from stock to CleanROM 2.2 located here I was able to use the Mail-Sense4.0-Fixed-v2.0.apk and it works perfectly from what I can see so far!

Thanks a million OP!
[HTC Sensation] eac:
Hehe! Glad to hear you're happy now :D

We all here have to thank to our mate rathore4u...

Still working for me too.

All the best!
[HTC Sensation] ssip96:
Thanks so much. I do plan on keeping the stock rom for now.

is it a problem then?
[HTC Sensation] ssip96:
Hi followed the steps you mentioned in the *Note* section since i am using stock rom.

when i tap the mail.apk, it suggests to install this app, but the installation fails (just saying 'the application was not installed') any ideas?:confused:

EDIT: also, after i do this, i cannot re-install the stock mail.apk.bak i created. same error 'the application was not installed'. forced to factory reset to get mail back :(
[HTC Sensation] Stevemann:
All working fine now! Thanks.
[HTC Sensation] ssip96:
Anyone.. please help. now even factory reset, whenever i open my mail and open a message it crashes...
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Try cleaning the cache from recovery.
[HTC Sensation] RedWingsFan:
I also used the Sense 4.0 2.0 and the automated bat file on my EVO 4G LTE and it worked perfect.

Big Thanks
[HTC Sensation] ssip96:
that did it. thanks!
[HTC Sensation] eac:
As I've said, I came back with news.

It happened too many times to be just an illusion.

I'm setting message format to HTML and in two or three days it's back to text. Well, maybe four days sometimes...

Anybody else?...
[HTC Sensation] ulrakhma:
Yes, same for me. after about an hour it changes back to Plain Text.
[HTC Sensation] reissc1:
I've used this on the evo lte, and it has worked to disable exchange policies. I get a very strange response now though when I try to delete or correct a misspelled word. The word will duplicate itself, and it makes it almost impossible to delete. I have tried three different keyboards, and it does it with all of them. I used the fixed 2.0 apk.

Any thoughts?
[HTC Sensation] Socrguru:
Hey rathore4u,

Previously I'd been using the Sense 4.0 v2.0 apk on my Evo 4G LTE, but there's apparently a few issues with it (see post above mine). I've tried decompiling Mail.apk to make the changes myself, but can't find a SecurityPolicy.smali (also, when I rebuild Mail.apk with no changes the file size is different).

I'm obviously doing something wrong - could you possibly make the fix for the E4GLTE (or PM me and maybe teach me how)? I've attached the stock Mail.apk... I know you'll need more files than that to decompile/recompile, just let me know what you'd need so you don't need to download a 500MB+ file. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
I think, it is something not related to my changes. I have this setting kept for days now. It is still same and didnt change. Maybe something on server ( just a guess ). Anyone having access to server might be able to check.
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Try the attached apk and if it works let me know the rom details it was taken from.

PS : Attachment moved to OP
[HTC Sensation] Socrguru:
Works perfectly! Thanks!

The apk was from stock rooted deodexed 1.13.651.1. Works on my current ROM (Charmeleon 5.0.0) and I imagine it would work on Fresh, Viper, and any others currently out for the Evo LTE.
[HTC Sensation] blkcliostu:
Anything for cm-9.0.0-OpenSensation ?
[HTC Sensation] RedWingsFan:
I tried this and everything works fine except there is no notification sound. Vibrate works though. Made sure all the settings were correct.
[HTC Sensation] sachinkhanna:
Yep, same problem here with the autocorrect bug fixed on Swype, but no notification sound for emails. I am using Fresh Evo 5.1.1 ROM.
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
If it is aosp, try using com.android.exchange.apk
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Was it working before the Mod? It seems to me a problem of the original Mail.apk. Can you try the original Mail.apk attached in a few posts above.
[HTC Sensation] sachinkhanna:
User reissc1 found the solution, posted from another thread. It is under Personalize where it overrides what the Mail app is doing:

"Look under settings,personalize. At the bottom click the sound button then look what is set for email. This choice overrides the selection in the email app. Mine was set to no sound. Once I changed it everything worked."
[HTC Sensation] superevilllama:
Bumpity! Can anyone please disable security in the mail app for the Amaze? It would be awesome of you. :)
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Hi,

I need the apk from a deodexed rom. The attached apk is from odexed rom.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] superevilllama:
Ok cool. I will grab the deodexed version when I get home later and attach here if no one beats me to it. Thank you!!
[HTC Sensation] superevilllama:
Here is the unmodified deodexed version for ICS for the Amaze. Thanks again!!
[HTC Sensation] eac:
I didn't said is related to your mod. Not at all...

And thanks for the tip with the server :D

I'll check with my Exchange admin.

All the best!
[HTC Sensation] trtracer:
deleted - too dumb to read... :-(
[HTC Sensation] superevilllama:
Any progress in modding the amaze 4g mail.apk I attached?
[HTC Sensation] cburgess:
Hi there,

I tried the Fixed2.0 on my OneX and it works but there are quite a few niggling issues with it - Changing to HTML resets to Plain Text after about 30mins-1hr - Swiftkey delete issues and other random formatting issues also occur that don't happen with the stock mail app.

So I have tried the Mail-Sense4-OneX-Energy.apk and whilst this behaves like the stock mail app it doesnt disable the exchange policies.

Any idea if there is something I should be doing differently to get the OneX apk working without exchange policy?
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Try the attached and let me know if it works.

PS : Attachment moved to OP
[HTC Sensation] superevilllama:
The app works. I will find out about the security being disabled on Monday when I get my exchange account set up. Thank you very much!
[HTC Sensation] sly.cooper:
I am using Virtuous Inquisition ROM since last few days and it is the first thing that I have noticed that exchange account is working fine without enforcing security policies of password. All other ROM's that I had used earlier used to pop up for setting up password. I am not sure if this is something already incorporated in the ROM. Just an FYI.
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Thanks for pointing that out. Not sure if Virtuous dev is using my fix or one of his own.
[HTC Sensation] Slarty73:
Modified app works properly on stock Amaze ICS odex ROM, many thanx!
[HTC Sensation] Raven2k:
Could anyone please make a version for ARHD 6.6.7?

Many thanks!
[HTC Sensation] shantur:
Are there any changes in 6.6.7? I am using from 6.6 and it works fine.
[HTC Sensation] Raven2k:
I'm not sure what 6.6 refers to... But 6.6.7 is on a newer base I think. Also it is mentioned that it works till 6.6.5, not sure how compatible with 6.6.7 it is...
[HTC Sensation] eac:
This is strange. Mail-Sense4-OneX-Energy.apk is working just fine for me, w/o any extra help from my side.

Well, but with the same unstable html message format. Now I've checked on 3 different Exchange servers, so no, is not from the server. Besides, my TouchPro2, with Win Mobile, is working with the same server and stays for good with html format.

@rathore4u: is it posible sir, to patch a little a mail.apk from a 3.2 Android?

I'm talking about Overcome 10.1 on a tablet...

All the best.
[HTC Sensation] superevilllama:
I have the same issue on mine. All email comes accross in plain text. When you go to the menu to changge it, the option is greyed out under settings > send and receive > message format. Any ideas?