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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] californiarailroader:
EXACTLY! People seem to think it's scratch proof, but scratch proof doesn't exist on this Earth, even the hardest substance on Earth, a Diamond can be scratched by another diamond.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gondeep11:
????? Not sure where I said Scratch Proof or Resistant, Simply just stating that the ATT Note comes with Gorilla Glass, By putting on another screen protector or wasting 35 bucks on One is a matter of choice. And a poor one IMHO:cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] MarkStinger:
Read through these forums and you will see where others chose not to use a screen protector and their Gorilla Glass ended up with scratches and scuff marks. The posts are there. I had the Samsung Infuse, which also had Gorilla Glass, and it had the same issues. Yes it is a choice to use a screen protector. Personally I would rather scratch a SP than the actual glass.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] fUr246:
Gorilla glass can still be messed up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
There us a lot of complaints about the S Pen scratching the screen bad... also being scuff and even cracked...

Investing in a 35$ glass protector a poor choice?? Nonsense... its beyond smart
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ChronoReverse:
What happened with the Oleophobic one for you? I'm planning on getting it but I'm curious as to how it messed up.

Also, does the coating help with fingerprints?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] slowpc:
My new one should have been shipped today so cant wait for my replacement. :)

Glas.t is worth it . Rather be replacing my 35 dollar piece of glass and not a 150 piece and a bit more labor...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
ill stick to my $0.99/3 cheapies from ebay. I'll never wear out enough of them to warrant $35 :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
How hard is it to install this?

FYI, I have always used SGP screen protector on my smartphone (iPhone, Thunderbolt, etc.) and one thing I found is that it is very hard to line-up the sides with the phone. I often ended up with the left or right bottom side touching the part of the phone, creating a bubble.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
Let's see how plastic protects against a fall or a hit ;) .....even the S-Pen

:D :D :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] xCeejayy:
I've ordered the glas.t and its coming on Wednesday. :o When I get it / install it i'll tell you guys how it worked out :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] polstein:
Be careful with the eBay site. Turns out this is an Authorized Business Partner and not actually them. They (spigen) will not deal with replacements/defects through the eBay page.

I'm about to write to the store for help, since after 3 weeks, the protector is lifting in the corner (by the camera) and the earpiece & the bubble is spreading.

Update: Ebay store owner is trying to help and has offered to replace the defective one (which I have taken off completely since my bubble got worse). But feel bad if he has to take the loss over the defective one. Wondering if ear sweat/gunk got into/under the shield.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpg71:
You didn't say it was, but you said "No Need for an additional Screen Protector" because it comes with Gorilla Glass. My point was that Gorilla Glass does not eliminate the need for a Screen Protector, as only a scratch-proof device would do that.

Agreed, however, that the use of any protective device on a $700 device is a matter of choice. A poor one depends on how much you value that $700 device.

Should everyone use Glas.t? No, it's fairly expensive for what it does at its basic functionality. A 3 pack of cheap protectors for a couple of bucks will serve that same purpose. For those individuals who want as close an experience to naked glass without exposing their screen to scratches, the Glas.t is a perfectly acceptable choice, and in fact the only one at the time of this posting. No other protector offers a glass-quality surface for the Galaxy Note.

At the end of the day, we all must make our choice, but Gorilla Glass, in and of itself, does not eliminate the need for that choice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] xCeejayy:
My Experience with the Glas.t

So I got it in a day early and this is how my install went.

First, I cleaned out my bathroom counter with alcohol

Second, I Ran the hot water

Third, Once it was steamy I began the installation process

Fourth, So I did the whole alcohol prep/ Microfiber cloth deal While laying it down i stopped breathing yet a piece of red lint came off of my shirt

Five, Since the lint was so big I thought well since it's one use only and I ****ed up might aswell try washing it with water and re applying

Sixth, I Rinsed the screen with hot water and the water got the lint off

Seventh, I reapplied the Glas.t and it Quickly adhered ! There was no lint or anything

Eight,I Squeegeed the excess water from the Glas.t and it was just perfect.

So I guess it is re-usable just with water.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
Nice!!!

Mine came with a defective corner and interfered with the front facing camera

Contacted the seller and my new Glas.t has shipped out

Great customer support
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jordant2:
I ordered mine through eBay as well. I received it today and cannot seem to get it on perfectly. I have taken it off and tried to reapply two times now and it seems to still stick. My issue is I keep aligning it off to one side so that one of the sides won't lay down.

I felt like this product is a must for me because I dropped my device in a parking lot and cracked the screen in half so I just got a brand new replacement in the box! Deductible is $200 though so I'll spend $35 if it will save me from spending another $200 later. Phones get dropped all the time. Picked up a seidio active also.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
Crap, that is the issue I had with almost EVERY SGP screen protectors, glass or not. It seems that they cut it almost to the point that there is zero room for misalignment.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UnicornKaz:
Actually ... there is ...

search for "realook" brand protector...

same glass surface experience... S-Pen won't put a dent in it... it's exactly the same except the surface hardness rating is half of GLASt ( 4H compared to 8H )

some might say that you need 8H... but 4H is more then enough... plus you get 2 pieces for HALF the price ;)

I got them on in this post ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26064463&postcount=2

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jpg71:
I had the Realook before the Glas.t and it's no glass (unless they make a different version than the one I got). It was, admittedly, a nice protector and you could hardly tell it was on the device except when the screen was off, you could see some rainbow effect.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jordant2:
After 5 tries I finally got it to align properly, now I think I wore out one of the sides, lol. It won't stay flat but it is not that bad. I'll settle for this, plus my case will probably cover the edge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UnicornKaz:
No rainbow effect here :p ( certainly not in those pictures that I'd posted )

Just like the real rainbow... anytime you have light passing through glass/water droplet ...at a particular angle... with a keen eye... you will see the effect. ;)

this will hold true for real glass ( windows, drinking glass... eye glasses...etc ) ... and even the GLASt or the REALOOK ... personally... my eyes can't see it. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] xCeejayy:
The way I delt with that issue was get a little water on the glass screen use both me left and right thumb/index finger to position it and "kiss" Your screen on LOL. It should be perfetly aligned afterwards
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jordant2:
Well here are my results. And this is after taking it off 4 times. I'm content with it like this. I have fingerprints all over it now. Sorry for the crappy camera, I used another galaxy note, lighting wasn't so great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
I finally got mine. Here's my take:

I. POSITIVE

- Installation is straight forward. I hold the glass on the top and bottom with my thumb and index finger, line up the glass with the phone and install it. PERFECT! No bubbles and everything is aligned

- No effects on screen sensitivity, finger or thumbs.

II. NEGATIVE

- This glass is a fingerprint magnet! I had my Note for more than 2 weeks with no screen protector and I don't have much fingerprint mark on the Note screen. With the Glas.t protector, I got TONS of them in a short amount of period. I think the fingerprint-resistant coating in the Note screen is much better than the one in the Glas.t protector.

Conclusion:

I am happy with the purchase, not to mention the confident feeling that my Note screen is now well protected. Coupled that with the Zagg back cover, my Note is in good shape without adding any bulkiness (i.e. adding case). Just have to keep wiping the screen to remove the fingerprint mark.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] xCeejayy:
Hmm, My screen started to develop a weird fog type deal in two areas. I'll update you guys in a few days if it disappears or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] slowpc:
Just put on my replacement that SGP sent me and the surface feels a bit different.... but did the shower trick with no problems at all. Lined up and placed on right first time this time. Im happy again :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
Question: what kind of adhesive does it use? Dry silicone film or some glue?

Sent from a big ass phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
I think its silicone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
Wait, so you are saying that the tighter I hold the pen the thicker the line ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] xCeejayy:
A Type of silicone according to the box.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ridikolous:
Is it worth it to remove 2 tiny small dust after having it on for 3 days, I dunno if it will ruin the screen protector
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bd11goal:
I wouldn't remove the protector to get that dust out... You'll probably end up making it worse. To all of you who are going to put this protector on, seriously try to get zero dust under the screen. It is truly difficult to pull this off even with the included material.

On another note, I also had an initial dud on the Glass.T where a relatively large portion of the screen would not stick, as in there was a huge bubble which simply would not go away.

After applying a second Glass.T, the results were much better. I also use the Ballistic SG case; the fit is perfect. You cannot even tell that the Glass-T is on there. To me, the touch screen is actually more responsive and accurate than it was without it. The combination of the Ballistic SG and the Glass.T is a seriously heavy duty Note. The extra rubber on the corners of the case also helps it stay put on my dashboard by wedging it between the windshield and the dashboard for GPS usage.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] UnicornKaz:
Did you know that the S-Pen can do this ?? :D

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22862055&postcount=10

I can even write over a booklet 10 pages thick and it wrote everything perfectly underneath ... :D

...Show it to other phone owners and watch their jaw dropped ... lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] crazzysandman:
I had to remove mine as I also got dust on my screen. Anyways I used double sided tape that is very sticky and well I just got a small piece and stuck it on my finder and lifted away the dust from underniether the screen protecter... I think I learned that from gizmodo

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
For those with the Glass protector, do you see any issue with screen sensitivity in certain locationof the screen, as follow:

I play many games that make use of "landscape" mode, that is the screen is rotated. Those games where the on-screen "joystick" on the bottom-left of the screen (landscape) OR top left (portrait), I notice that sometimes the "joystick" did NOT register my touch.

When it happened, I lift up my thumb and press it or move the button again and nothing is registered. After about 2-5 seconds, THEN it register again.

Since I already have the screen protector, I CANNOT test the above issue without the Glass protector since that means I have to take it out. HOWEVER, I used to have the International Note and that one did NOT have the Glass protector and I never experiences this issue.

Bottom line: is this an issue with the Glass Protector OR the AT&T Note? Keep in mind I didn't have this issue with the International Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] johnny1223:
Woah

That looks weird but sweet. But it would suck if you dropped your phone. Double broken glass? haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jordant2:
Thought it was just me, it seems that my screen is less responsive around the edges of the screen. I cant tell if it's the GLAS.t or not. I don't want to take it off to try it out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
Never had that that problem to be honest...

Is there any dirt or lint underneath the glass?

This happened to me when glass had bubbles or dirt underneath, got a replacement and.all works fine
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jordant2:
I removed it and reapplied a few times to get the lint out. I guess my sides just aren't staying down as well as the middle.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
Well there is your problem right there :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] predation:
i've read through this thread and i don't think anyone has mentioned this but to get the perfect "install", do this:

1) take shower in bathroom to build up steam (don't want to waste water).

2) align and tape the bottom or top end of the screen protector to the phone.

3) peel back and apply without trepidation because you already taped it down with perfect alignment.

this method has been working great for me for all of my products.

obviously, this will only work on screen protectors (prior to install) that are already cutout to the dimensions of the screen. ie. don't have excess edges.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] crazzysandman:
My screen glast has been smugeding all over... I might have dirty hands :-(

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Just ordered one for myself. Pretty excited to get this on my phone finally
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lanwarrior:
There is no dust or anything under the glass, my install was (luckily) quite perfect. No bubbles, etc.

I can confirm something is interfering around the edge of the screen, where I lose touch sensitivity as described below. Its probably just my Note, but you can try it yourself by....say... down a game that play horizontally and try to continously hold and move your finger aroud the edge screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Just thought of something and confirmed it by searching the webs. I love the feeling of a clean glass screen, nothing compares to it, which is why I bought the glas.t. However, I hate fingerprints, so I was thinking about what could give the glas.t a more smudge resistant surface.

Then I remembered how well a fresh coat of rain x works on car windows for keeping them clean and easy to clean, so I searched, and sure enough, people have used it on their phones with decent improvements in smudge resistance.

I don't have my protector yet, and don't want to do it on my bare screen, but just thought I would let you guys know. I am going to do it once in have my glas.t. and will post my findings.

If you want to try, just clean your screen really well first, then apply a little rain x to a micro fiber cloth (won't take much), then wipe it all over the glass and let it dry. Don't over do it, your screen doesn't need to be soaking. It will dry with a bit of a hazy finish, much like car wax. After it is completely dry, buff off the haze with another clean micro fiber, and voila...should be super slippery and more smudge resistant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deliriousbb:
Good find Maroon! This thing looks amazing. but my only hesitation is the high price. $35 is a steep price just for the screen protector.

no tax if you're outside WA.

http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-SGP-Pr..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1338842297&sr=1-1

If anyone has it for their Note, let us know your take on it. Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sag7392:
It does work...I've done this on all the devices I've owned. Like you stated, don't go crazy with the amount. Just enough to create a haze is all you need.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] theonedub:
Did this on my Note with the SGP UltraOleo and the resistance to smudging is markedly improved. Went ahead on did it on a naked iPhone 4 screen too, but the results were not as great.

Yes, RainX and other antifog, water repelling, denatured alcohol products advise not to use their products on clear plastics unless the manufacturer says OK, but I've used these products on many plastics without harm.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mariol66:
Has anyone taken this screen protector off? I have a replacement I want to out on I just don't know how to go about removing it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bd11goal:
If your fingernails won't do it, I would try to use dental floss.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] slowpc:
Yep , I have replaced mine once and just peeled it off and cleaned the glass before putting the new one on :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] NightHawkUndead:
Got mine in the mail 2 days ago. Easiest screen protector I've ever put on. Not a single air bubble or piece of dust. After having this I will never use anything else. Feels like I don't have a sp at all. Highly recommended to everyone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] :
Ordered this SP.

Has anyone applied it to a screen with minor scratches? Did they disappear?

I've got a few small scratches that look like its just the coating scratched, I'm hoping this protector will fix that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] NightHawkUndead:
If u got small scratches they will vanish like magic!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] :
Sweet! Thanks for the reply.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] chriskwarren:
Careful Jake applying this...you only get one shot (I had a corner of it lift off a bit since, and it reapplied itself and looks good). Not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but pay close attention to which side has the adhesive (I have read forum posts of people getting them mixed up lol).

Here are the instructions from the Spigen site:

I took the iPhone crap out

http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-g...r-glas-t-premium-tempered-glass-series-1.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] santiagodraco:
Do you think Gorilla Glass is invulnerable? Did you not watch the video from the gentleman above who dropped his iPad onto concrete?

It's a good idea to separate marketing from reality. Additional protection that doesn't affect the performance of the device is always a good idea.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Willthrill:
Gorilla Glass my A$$. I have NEVER scratched a phones screen!!! the note goes in my pocket with nothing else and i have 2 scratches on the screen. This is a must i just havent pulled the trigger but will be in a day or so
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Its gorilla glass. Its scratch resistant. Not proof. All it takes is something with a higher hardness rating to scratch it. That could be a speck of a pebble that got in your pocket, but if its a higher hardness than the glass, it will scratch.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] santiagodraco:
Well I pulled the trigger on one of these screens but I'm planning to do something a little different.

I'm a big fan of Otterbox Defender cases (yeah they are bulky but that's ok with me). I've ordered one of them as well and my plan is to install the glas.t and the defender case but I'm going to cut out the Defenders "integrated" screen protector. My hope is that this will cause the defender to overlay the glas.t and keep it held down around the edges even better plus I'll have the protection of the defender but the glass protection of the glas.t.

All theory know but I'll know more on Friday if it works out :)

http://www.otterbox.com/Samsung-Gal...lor=20&start=1&cgid=samsung-galaxy-note-cases
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] :
I've also got several small scratches on my screen. I've only dropped the phone once from chair level. They just appear. This phone scratches super easy.

VS my old Galaxy S, which is the same gorilla glass, that thing has hit the floor more times than charlie sheen, and it's 2 years old, and the screen is 100% spotless. I'd drop that thing pretty well every day (it was hard to hold?)

I don't know what's up with the note, but it scratches very easily. This screen protector is a must. I've never needed one for my SGS.

At least the note is big and easy to hold and it's not slippery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] santiagodraco:
And i bring you my Otterbox Defender + glass.t protected Galaxy Note!

Note that (pun intended) that this was easy to adapt. The Defenders integrated screen protector pops out and can be installed i believe (non drying adhesive is used) but I don't see myself going back.

The case fits perfectly snug with the added height from the glas.t AND the case presses down on the glas.t very slightly which is great. Note the slight bubble on the bottom right in one shot. I may see about a replacement, but with the case fully assembled it's less noticeable and is not at all on the actual display portion of the screen itself. I'm also hoping the case will press that out over time.

To say this thing is a beast is an understatement, but it's a beautiful one!

Here are some photos. You can see in the iPhone 4 Defender case comparison what the integrated screen protector looks like. Again, its' very to remove and I believe will re-install if ever necessary (I saved mine in my glas.t package.)

I should also note that after playing with the new setup a bit I can say that the glas.t is great for fingerprints. Hides them very very well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] claywd:
Ivisor is the way to go. Static cling no sticky and when matched with a speck case you get a thin accessible and slightly more expensive otterbox defender. LOVE!

Ooh and anti-glare. :-)

Sent from my sgh_i717 hybrid
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Ehhhh. I liked the ivisor's ability to be removed and reused easily when I used it on my Infuse, but I wouldn't let that grainy screen protector near my Note's HD screen. And besides the graininess, it took away the deep blacks of the super AMOLED screen, which is a sin, and made it look like an lcd panel, also a sin. Haha. Now if there were a way to do something similar with glass, I would be down for the removable protector again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Holy notification bar Batman! Haha, just messing. On another Note, I do like how well it looks like it works together...if I was into the whole Otterbox thing I would totally do this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jordant2:
I've never had a screen shatter like this one and I've had many. For me, after a $200 deductible, this was a must. And after a month of usage, I'd definitely recommend this screen protector and hope they make it for my next device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] santiagodraco:
Yeah, the Defender is definitely an acquired taste ;) But I really love their cases. There simply isn't anything out there built as well. But they do add bulk!

As for my notification bar... that's my next project. Still learning how to mod up stuff. Any tips on how to clean it up and such would be great lol. I've been looking for that circle battery indicator that I see so many using, and can't find it anywhere. But I probably just need to look harder ;)