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[HTC Amaze 4G] vzontini:
Coming from a Nexus One I didn't realize that S-OFF was an issue until after buying this phone. With this new knowledge S-OFF (or similar) will be part of my considerations for my next phone purchase. If HTC changes to offer S-OFF, then that would definitely be a mark in their favor.

I was recently asked to participate in a T-mobile/Amaze survey and I used the comments area at the end to voice my dis-satisfaction with the lack of S-OFF and that all driver software had not yet been released. I paid full price for the phone not knowing that there were limits to my ownership. Sucks.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dharvey4651:
I actually bought the phone in October. I've been a member of XDA for a VERY long time and I do understand that things sometimes take time.

With that being said, I bought the phone knowing S-OFF wasn't currently un-obtainable. I have been waiting quietly and patiently for almost 5 whole months and not only have we still not achieved S-OFF, the ROM development and kernel development is so minimal that it's almost non-existent.

Understand that I came from the HD2 forums. I was the moderator that petitioned Svetius to restructure the HD2 forum to it's current layout and was later appointed a senior moderator. I spent hundreds of hours building that forum and spent almost as much time flashing new ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc.. I even built my own WinMo and Android ROMs for that phone for quite some time.

I came from a phone with virtually limitless development to a phone with almost none.

I'm beginning to get a bit frustrated and I believe others are as well. That's why I started this thread. If HTC can unlock our bootloaders, they can also turn off the security flags. I would GLADLY forfeit any warranties I have to obtain S-OFF and I would most certainly be willing to register my device with them so they have on file that I have turned off the security flags, preventing me from attempting to warranty my device in the event that something should happen.

What I do not understand is why they are so unwilling to provide such services.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Chance Ill:
Locking

You really don't understand the point, do you? You obviously don't understand what the fuss is about. I'll say it again: If I own something, that makes it mine. Plain and simple. S-off is NOT meant to prevent damage, its simply is a deterrent . Even if htc claimed it to be the reason, they wouldn't allow the bootloader to be unlocked. I own an Asus Transformer Prime and it came with an locked bootloader. The community stood against it, and in less then 24hrs, ASUS committed to developing a tool to unlock. Point is, if enough noise is made, they WILL listen. Besides, I'm a grown man and don't need someone to protect me from myself. We want choice. Let us decide what's good for US!
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
I've owned HTC phones since the HTC shadow for T-Mobile, then the shadow 2, HTC dash, then the touch diamond, the touch pro2, G1, Mytouch, HD2, G2, I'm a die hard HTC fan they have Amazing hardware and will never switch to any other manufacture. I rather honestly switch to windows phone before I change to an android manufactured by Samsung.

This S-off thing is driving me Insane guys =\
[HTC Amaze 4G] smatthew45:
your absolutely right, it is your device, now tell me how is htc stopping you from doing what you want with it? is it cuz they are not spoon feeding you s-off like they've never done before?

i'll say it again for you to understand... htc has never helped anyone achieve s-off, it's always been the hard work of some dev/team to make that happen, and the main reason that has not happened is because as dharvey4651 said it, we don't have that many devs and even less people working on getting s-off

it has never been htc's job to give s-off to its users, so why do you think they will start now? i'm just saying wait till team revolutionary gets a hold of an amaze and have a crack at it first before crying to the manufacturer lol...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Chance Ill:
Wow. No one is crying and no one said it's HTC job to do anything, but why do you think they developed a tool to unlocked bootloaders for virtually every Android ran HTC device even though it wasn't their "job"?

_____Think about that for a sec...........:confused:

Team Rev haven't made any commitment to do anything. S-off pledging is an attempt to attract devs to the issue with the hopes that someone will bit.

Please, try to comprehend the purpose of the thread before saying grown men are crying. The frustration is with the signature itself and why it's done, NOT that HTC won't help.
[HTC Amaze 4G] krook6023:
HTC will continue to try to make an unexploitable bootloader...and will one day probably succeed. So the point is we got their attention...htcdev.com

Now they need to do this right...and let me do what I want with my property.

If HTC phones prove to be increasingly hard to crack...guess what...there are plenty of other great non-htc options. I would not have said that even a year ago...but we have options now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
I agree 100% This post says it all and should be sent with this vote thread to HTC.

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I'm not gonna spam up the thread with unrelated crap...This is all I will say. For those who want to be NEGATIVE...Why are you on XDA and think how much more development we would all have on our devices if they weren't locked. Complain ELSEWHERE PLEASE!!!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
So heres how i see it.

I get the whole "htc protecting themselves / protecting us, from messing up our phones." But if they set up getting S-off the same way they have unlocking the bootloader set up, where we have to aknowledge that we may void our warranty and agree to this and that etc., then they wouldn't have to worry and would make their customers happy. They could even just straight up say that making ur phone s-off WILL void your warranty, and you know people would still do it and then they wouldn't have any liability at all to worry about. So i dont really buy the "protecting" defense. Really, the least they could, is explain to us why they wont give it to us so we can stop assuming and feeling left in the dust.

As for getting another htc, even without s-off i still would. My first htc was the hd2, and i haven't owned any other brand since (this is my 4th htc). I love everything about their phones, and i dont see myself buying anything but htc. I hate iphones, i hate samsungs, LG, well i dont even wanna go there. So unless somone new or somethin comes out that just knocks me off my feet, i will be staying a loyal htc customer

Sent from my NRGized Amaze...

via xda premium
[HTC Amaze 4G] chrischoi:
Children. That's all you are.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Marquis63:
The Amaze has only been out since Nov.? And It's already at EOL on Tmo, short life for an Amazing(no pun intended) phone :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] lebmb:
Hey everyone, just voted no.

I feel like an iphone user now, well not really im still way better off but i just got a vivid yesterday, traded my sensation for it since im on att for now but i what i want is an amaze yet they seem to be in the same boat as far as s-off. ive had a lot of phones, most htc, some didnt keep long enough to add to my sig. I always came here first to see how i can customize it, sometimes i had problems, restore to factory n send to htc for repairs. Been debating about unlocking bootloader through htc dev but then no warranty so that sux, what sux even more is that when i called to inquire what happens to warranty if i unlocked, the htc rep had no clue that htc dev was n had to wait 10 mins for her to go find out what i was talking about. So what to do? Sense 3.0 looked amazing back in august on my mytouch 4g but 3.5 from runnymed makes it look outdated. So what now? Stick w older devices? Ics is not for me at all n sense 4.0 w a aosp looking luncher is a turn off, and the menu lists look like im on windows mobile. To me this is a time where htc made a wrong turn n the one series doesnt feel like a correction to me. Oh well maybe its time to dust off the mytouch untill better things happen. Devs i wish u good luck n hope u can get things rolling :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] RootaToota:
Stupid Move HTC.

NO.

I would not buy another HTC phone if I am not able to put custom ROMs on my phones. I have purchased about 5 HTCs so far and recommended a few more to others.

I bought this phone early January thinking it would get S-OFF. I am very disappointed and ABSOLUTELY SICK of the terrible battery life. I've tried everything. I currently run from 192 MHz to 1512 MHz on "Conservative."

I'm glad I kept my HTC EVO from Sprint and still run it at 806 MHz with CM7 for a multimedia device. With an 18 month- old battery it still lasts about as long as the Amaze. I don't even have to use my spare battery for the EVO yet.

Stupid Stupid HTC.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jjamain:
Google Maps get updated 6.3.0....Improved battery performance

Try it out http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2012/02/download-google-maps-360.html

Edit: Correct version 6.3.0
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
it is 6.3.0, n released 10 days back

Note : better this thread to be placed under Application category.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Arrancamos:
Thanks man, new to me!
[Fascinate General] yohobojo:
So I know there are AOKP themes out there, but idk if theyre compatible with Rick S AOKP 25... Does anyone know if any of them are compatible??? I really want to try the Black Exodus theme, but idk if itll work or not... And i dont have odin with me right now....
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
When you theme with a theme from an older ROM, most of the time it will only break visual aspects that were in the new version. So let's say you flashed the transparent notification bar for ths 6.0. You would lose the aokp notification bay and have the touchwiz looking one from ths.. That is an extreme scenario, and i don't suggest doing it. But the most i have experienced from flashing themes from older versions was visual reversions of that prior ROM, and some of the things added sense that earlier ROM were broke. Like if ROM had a flashlight mod on lockscreen, but theme from earlier rom did not.

But no matter what, nandroid, and wait till odin is handy

Only you can take responsibility for breaking you're phone
[Fascinate General] skynet11:
Please don't flash any AOKP themes from the Galaxy Nexus section - the themes are designed for the larger, HD resolution screens of the Gnex and will not be compatible with the Fascinate.

Terminators run on Android :cool:
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
Oh damn, was he talking about themes for another phone! ?

i thought he was just talking fascinate themes for older versions. Guess i did not expect that type of crazy.

Never never never ever flash ANYTHING from other phones, or anything marked "telus".

Edit:

Unless you have Telus
[Fascinate General] yohobojo:
Well, I took the plunge and flashed black exodus, and it's working great xD
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
So it was a fascinate theme?
[Fascinate General] yohobojo:
I think it was for aokp 25 in general... So I tried, and profit =D
[Fascinate General] skynet11:
Where'd you dl from?

Terminators run on Android :cool:
[Fascinate General] yohobojo:
I searched aokp themes under android themes look for one with less than 5 replies....
[Fascinate General] xain713:
I can't seem to find it you remember the name of the thread?

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ok so i also decided to flash the theme and yea it works :D here is the link of the thread i got it from (makes things pretty exciting xD wondering what else we can flash from b25 O_O.) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1435922
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] barondebxl:
I love my galaxy note and everytime i go to some public place people ask me what it is and you get to know a lot of people. Its awesome. All the people that saw my note said they were gonna buy it no lie.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] k1ng617:
Same here. its the :eek: at first then the :confused: then the :mad: because they get jealous. Then I go :p

But, seriously. I love my phone, and nobody can't have an opinion about it. Great convo starter too.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GallardosEggrollShop:
Agreed best phone for my uses. And the attention isn't half bad lol great conversation piece.

From my Galaxy Note GT-N7000 using tapatalk
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jai147:
My frnz wid gs2 threaten to break my s pen ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Sarius24:
Dude I have 2 of em. You should see the attention I get from random strangers when I take both of them out....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] k1ng617:
I'll stare at anyone holding two phones, no matter what size =)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] watsa:
Two G Notes? :eek: Seems like your captivate is now biting dust somewhere
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] TxDLoaD:
Same here. If im somewhere where there is a lot of people. Then usually someone wants to see it. And then more people will see it and soon everyone knows what phone i have :D we should payed as samsungs salesmen :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tbor1277:
My gf did the same. She is an iFan.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Arrancamos:
Hahaha, same here but 1st comments from people at work is about its "big" size, and I say nah it is not, it fits very easy on any of my pockets haha, then I move on :)

I know they wish to own one :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Funkym0nkey:
Here in India, Samsung is going bonkers with advertising campaign for note. You see it every day on almost all satellite channels. It has reached the point where people have actually started to recognise the phone in public. Everyone knows its Note.

Kinda feel bad as its not something rare or unknown beast that surprises people anymore.

Spewed out using effin awesome Note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Sarius24:
My gnote bit the dust a year ago lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeromepearce:
Lat time I traveled in Europe I had three! One for my Oz account with my email / WiFi & contacts, one for my UK / Europe account (because Oz account charge a fortune over there in most countries), and one Sat Phone for use when I was at sea in the Med.

It got so bad I almost gave it all up and went of a Sat Phone all the time, but the reception is useless inside any building.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Minimalcriminal:
My neighbors jaw dropped:eek: lookin @ my phone.. :D:D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] krishsastry:
Funny, I keep explaining to others comparing the same with iPhone, for me its my first Android phone, and I am running ICS and end up showing stuffs pretty much and there will be a crash or something crazy..!! lolz, though after two days I feel other phones are so tiny.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] zylor:
Now imagine this: i show my note and everyone asks:" how much did it cost? " and i simply say:" it was free... Won it in a contest on Stuff.tv site"

And everyone thinks this: Damn you bastard... I never win anything! :mad:

And guess what? I already made new friends because of it LOL :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] leppo:
The only stranger who ever gave my Note more than a moment's glance was a guy I was sitting beside in a seminar. I was using it both to take notes and record audio, while he was using his GS2 to record, and one of the Galaxy Tabs (I think 8.9) to take notes. He was looking over to it constantly, surely with the thought that it must be a great combination of the two devices.

As far as non-strangers are concerned, my wife (an iPhone 4 user) is jealous about damn near everything I've shown her on it. She might end up with the pink or white Note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] guitarplayerone:
I was really surprised with the amount of positive feedback that people gave to the note, including iPhone users etc.

Something interesting I noticed was that at my campus there seem to be a lot of folks with a phone+iPad or phone+playbook or any other tablet etc. (even my gf falls into this category). It just seems sort of silly to me to carry around two devices everywhere.

To be fair, though, I would never use the Note as a primary note-taking device, and have definitely seen iPad users use their devices for this purpose. Like some other users have mentioned, a 6" screen would be just fine in my book, as long as it still made calls.

However, if I didn't have a stereo bluetooth headset I would notice the size of it when using as an actual phone much more...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bman17:
Ha. How about this one, I was on the phone with the Note on Thursday afternoon in the foyer of our business complex (talking to ATT nonetheless) and saw a Guy walk past me looking right at the phone and is massive size up to my ear and COMPLETELY forgot to open the door to go outside and slammed right into it.

I laughed and said holy crap bud you okay? He said nothing and ran out the door!

This is what the Note will do for you.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] UncleManuel:
EXACT same thing here! The Note is totally an attention whore... :D

Well, the Note held to your ear IS bonkers for its sheer size... :D

Yesterday my friends made jokes about exactly this situation all evening long - and yet could'nt resist to playing arround with it. It got the attention from both Galaxy (SI & SII) and iPhone users... ;) :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drk421:
I flashed the Desire Z eng hboot to try out sense 3.5, and now I'd like to go back to the G2 hboot.

Whats the best way to go about this?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackknightavalon:
Flashing it via Recovery.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biohazrd51:
Here's the guide.

I believe this is still current. It's from the XDA G2 wiki.

Unless you're restoring to stock for warranty purposes, I'd just stick with the DZ hboot. It works with all the regular non-sense ROMs, and is only needed for running the Sense ROMs.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drk421:
dd if=/data/local/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18

That did it.

Do I need to reflash radio and recovery also?

Is there a partition map table that shows the difference between Desire Z and G2 hboots?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fucnkrazy:
currently on .14 and have voodoo ota root keeper already installed.

just want to make sure if safe.

if i loose root.. would ota root keeper be able to obtain root back? or am i screwed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mouse100:
Yes you will

Inviato dal mio Transformer Prime TF201 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] spootym:
I'm noticing a graphical glitch in the lower left corner of the screen on occasion. It is most noticable and reproducible in the youtube app when slowly scrolling through the video wall. A right-triangular portion of the screen flashes or tears. It does not seem to happen in the bottom bar, only in the YouTube app area of the screen.

I've also noticed it happen when switching or loading apps. I can't say which ones as I have not made a list but definitely Opera, YouTube, zynga poker and dice media player as the are my most used apps.

Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this.

Using 8.9 wifi only version, unrooted stock. (Haven't taken that plunge yet. :S )
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] poisike:
I also have this problem. Had it with stock firmware and the problem is still there with ICS rom. So it looks like a hardware problem to me. I wonder if all gt8.9s have this?
[General Questions and Answers] rdbwpb:
I can't stand to read this site these days. Everytime there's a post some self important ass has to jump and tell the person posting just how stupid they are for making the post. If you xda experts don't want to the rest if us here then lock it down. It would be no great loss. There's nothing here that can't be found in 100 other places.

For some reason this site seems to encourage rude moderators that love to trash people especially if someone failed to find existing threads using the terrible search tools provided. Maybe xda just can't carry the weight created by its success. One thing is sure and that is if it doesn't change a lot of people with go elsewhere....
[General Questions and Answers] PakAttack1994:
Just take it with a grain of salt man...there are douches everywhere but I mean without the developers we wouldn't we able to accomplish much, if anything. And most of the other forums I've seen directly get their info or sources from XDA. Its ok, hug time? :)
[General Questions and Answers] rdbwpb:
Thanks for the hug... It's not about me I can hold my own and enjoy giving it back. What bothers me is when someone clearly struggling to post and is asking for hlep (And English may not even be their language) then one of these dicks trashes them. I just looked at one where a guy asked how to find a specific item, he got an answer that said check the xxxxx forum and we are not your slave so don't expect us to do it for you. Who talks like that and why aren't they stomped on for acting that way. He gave an answer then added the boot. I see that everywhere here.

The people who respond here do it for their own reasons. It's nice when people help and I have found some helpful threads. Still when I see stuff like the one above I start to think there are people here who get off on acting that way. Being a developer doesn't mean doing sick stuff is OK.
[General Questions and Answers] PakAttack1994:
Yeah I agree but I mean some people are gonna be douches regardless of the question asked. I'm also inclined to think there are more decent people on XDA that like helping people as opposed to bashing them so even if the douche answers first, doesnt mean he represents XDA...
[General Questions and Answers] ekimnal:
and this is why people lurk...

...or ... why i have lurked for so long

but now i just dont care...

so.... here goes nothing :)
[General Questions and Answers] Cactoes Gel:
There should be a Douche button, just like a Thanks button.
[General Questions and Answers] nevrlow:
Because ppl cant Read and have very poor direction following skills and it gets old quick.

Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
[General Questions and Answers] redneck_666:
+1

Sent from my HTC Inspire "4G" using Ice Cold Sandwich 3.0.0
[General Questions and Answers] zelendel:
While I don't agree with people being rude please understand that this is a developers site. Not a tech support site, not a rom flashing site, and not a cool place to be site. It was made by developers for developers. And sometimes people can get rude. That is what the report button is for.
[General Questions and Answers] Buckii:
I like this site, and the way I see it,

They are sick of repeat posts, it's like people aren't bothering even looking anymore for what they need, they just post... As I have made that mistake a few times... That said i my self use the Site for my personal use or for the work I do but I ALWAYS give credit where it counts and is a great site for this Canadian to learn the ways of the DROID...

Also i mean maybe some devs like to poke fun, maybe they are tired of people taking time away from thier great works... Who knows, I talk to, a few decent people on here and have learnt alot and intended on learning more when my desktop is back up and running...

Sent from the past on my Nexus S using the XDA... The cake is a lie... Answer is 42...
[General Questions and Answers] rdbwpb:
People can read and most do try looking before posting but even if they don't it doesn't give you a right treat them poorly.
[General Questions and Answers] martenp17:
i agree, xda really needs a douchee button. im also new here, but i been using the forums for a while, just rencently registered and i have gotten all the info i need, so basicly yes, the douches are somewhat right, but they should just say it a little more politely