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[Motorola Photon 4G] madeSICC:
Sorry about not replying to the sale posts, I meant that more as a joke right now..

Still under contract with sprint until the end of next month so I can't sale the phone quite yet. And if my wife wants to save her upgrade for.something else later she will take the photon.

It's only 3 months old, bought it off craigslist bnib. It's had a invisishield since the first day, and an otter box a few days after. I found the otterbox was giving it scuff marks on the top so I took it off and literally a day after while I was doing a oil change on my truck I went to pull it out if my pocket and dropped it. So.I has 2 tiny chips and 2 corners. Not bad though since the.phone is all dark..

You guys will have second dibs if the wife decides to upgrade. I'll let you know.
[Motorola Photon 4G] madeSICC:
What do they even sell for now a days
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Funny you should ask, they were in the $300.00 range until Sprint decided to ditch WiMAX for LTE. Now you can get a Photon for the cost of a 5th and liquor, case of beer and pack of smokes!!! ($100.00 - $150.00 range?)
[Motorola Photon 4G] decamel:
Sams Club ... $99

Which sucks, I paid twice that. :(
[Motorola Photon 4G] madeSICC:
That sucks, I bought it for 200 on CL a few months ago. If I could get 100 for it if I do sell that would be awesome.
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Your lucky. It cost me $630.00 out the door and the pleasure of telling Sprint what they could do with that 2-year contract!! When/If I feel like walking, I'm walking!!!

Actually, I just lied to you. I sold my Evo for $300.00, so technically, the above cost me $330.00!!
[Motorola Photon 4G] iLLa:
i played with the note yesterday. all i did was draw penis's on pics of people. the screen looks nice. im not really feeling much else.
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Please explain with more detail?

Sent from my bone stock Photon 4G code name "Neo!" by 'Root no more me!"
[Motorola Photon 4G] madeSICC:
Yes the screen rocks. Not liking the button placement too much though. the.power is on the side and when I put it into my pocket it always turns on.

And the volume is on the opposite side of the photon. I talk with my right hand so I can't adjust the volume while having it up to my ear.
[Motorola Photon 4G] decamel:
In retrospect I don't regret going with the contract price. I cannot stand Verizon at all, had them before and while that network is very fast. Their customer service was _terrible_, nah worse than terrible. AT&T has a shoddy signal in the are of my house, and I'm really not sure where T-Mobile will be in a year. Sprint and US Cellular were the options, and USCC did not make me smile in their overall phone selection at the time.
[Motorola Photon 4G] bigj225:
Absolutely hilarious
[Motorola Photon 4G] hdmunger:
Re: Price...

Right now the online price for the Photon is $49.99 at the Sprint site.
[Motorola Photon 4G] madeSICC:
That's a great price.
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Sad thing is, if you look at it from a Business point of view (not a toy, texting, or gaming POV), this is the hottest thing on the market at the moment. If Sprint did their marketing correct, they could easily push these for $300.00 on contract....................

They messed up with the LTE announcement! They could, however, re-push these with LTE and sell for $300.00?
[Motorola Photon 4G] hdmunger:
But, that doesn't explain why other 4G Wimax phones are still $100-200 (even the, long in the tooth, original evo and epic; I even saw the Evo Shift for $150 a few days ago, although its gone entirely now)
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
1. Sprint Marketing sucks. plain and simple.

2. your smart (as most members here, no matter what phone they have!). But your 0.00000001% of phone users. The rest of the population just want to make calls, text, and take a picture now and then. Giving them a Photon is like giving them the keys to the Space Shuttle and telling them to drop something off at the ISS!!

As for your 4G WiMAX comment, I asked that in another thread a few weeks back. I think it criminal Sprint advertises 4G WiMAX phone knowing damm right well the majority of these people don't have it, never will have if, and if they do have it, will loose it in 2 years!!!!
[Motorola Photon 4G] brittoking:
Stumbled by this thread......the Note is absolutely amazing! Head Turner! Coming along nicely in development, we have root, CWM, OC kernel, and two custom roms already AND there's some good posts as of late, that detail how to accomplish all that without even tripping Samsungs "binary flash counter"

Please hit THANKS button if I help you, I have very low self esteem, and I crave validation! Sent from my Team EOS ICS Xoom
[Motorola Photon 4G] moonzbabysh:
Your sig made me lol, so I hit the thanks :)

MoPhoACTV Initiative
[Motorola Photon 4G] rajat12345:
Awesome!

I really wanted to get the Galay Note but sadly its on ATT, hopefully they will make a variant for sprint (galaxy journal anyone?)
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Funny, I stopped into AT&T Saturday to play. All I can say is "Damm!" The only thing that held me back is the thought of going back to AT&T! The speed of the Note is noticable (and I really do mean you notice!) faster than Photon or even my computer for that matter! Not sure why they kept Gingerbread, but..........that phone is PHAT! all the features of a tablet with all the features of a phone. Did I mention how fast it is? and we do not even have 4G (WiMAX or LTE) in my area! Called my phone, drew pictures of my penis, watched nickleback video (rock star), AND got my gmail! All at the same time and I was only in the store 10 minutes?

I hear rumors on sprintfeed it may come our way this summer? If so, I'm on it!!! I lived the AT&T nightmare for 4 years before the Evo, I don't want to go back to that nickle-&-dime route!
[Motorola Photon 4G] cornelious2:
You really enjoy your penis huh?
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Duh, Yea!!! (I'm not a very good artist. Someone else here stated thats what they drew when playing with Note, so I did.)
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Jeez, man, quit begging - nothing you said was thanks-worthy! :)

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Sucker! :)

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Gotta love those cheap plastic phones, eh?
[Motorola Photon 4G] cornelious2:
Fair enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
just wondering what you guys are getting for clock speeds on your galaxy nexus, im successfully running 1.65 Ghz using franco's #18.2, stable and random reboot free, i would love to hear yours :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pechkin000:
What are your uv settings?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
Weird I'm having trouble uploading from my app. But its 1450 mV for 1.65 and 1.6 1400 mV for 1500. i haven't done any undervolting yet, i dont want to mess with the stability, mainly because im happy my phone even runs on 1.65.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
"Today, we put to rest our dear friend, Battery. He will be missed, even though he was rarely there when we needed him most."

*Shovels dirt into the grave*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] linh1987:
I myself not so concern about battery life loss from CPU OC as long as the screen is still consuming 50% of it everyday...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
meh, i have a extended battery, get decent battery life and have an extra, so im not worried. and its not like im at a constant 1.6, im happy with it so far :) gonna use it for a few days and see how it goes :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] s2d4:
who cares about battery life when you have a massive e-peens!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackMamba08:
Literally just got into rooting and theming with my first android (gnex). Rooted and installed aokp b25 with nova launcher and loving it!

Is there noob guide to over clocking? Or a go to app or anything?

Maybe a tutorial? lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
Google can be your best friend. thats how i did it :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mudferret:
Guilty as charged.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
But....Quadrants must rule!

To the person who said they don't care when the screen takes 50%....

That makes no sense on why not to care about battery loss from overclocking.

Less == less, no matter what is draining it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackMamba08:
Thats how I rooted my phone and installed my rom. All googling, literally had no idea how to root or install a rom. Didn't even know any of the terminology.

Overclocking seems to be a bit more risky. I've tried googling a tutorial/beginners guide would be amazing.

What kernel are you guys using and where can I find it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
im using franco's #18.2 kernel you can find it in the cdma developer section
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Does anyone find it amusing his CPU score is lower than a stock Galaxy Nexus and instead his i/o score is inflated?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] s2d4:
generous use of of loading quadrant into ramdisk?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
i noticed this too, i was gonna ask but i figured since all phones are different, it didnt really matter, but who the hell am i to say, your the expert...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I don't play the benchmark game, but ignoring your i/o score, your CPU score which an overclock would address is lower than stock 1.2ghz.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
wtf is bramdisk?... i honestly dont know why my phones like that, i just dl'd and benched... i have a feeling i might have to upload a video for you guys... hahah
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I see people in IRC playing with it. I am just saying that you may see a difference in your overclock app, but the benchmark you are relying on says yours CPU performance is below stock 1.2ghz.

Not a stretch considering the overclocking issues this device has. For that, I would not go 70mV over an already high stock voltage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
im pretty sure someone on the forums tested how much undervolting actually saved battery and proved its an almost insignificant amount... but once again... your the expert
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I am not talking about undervolting. You sir, are OVERvolting. By a decent amount too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
hey, im just using the stock voltages that came with the kernel...

EDIT: just droped it almost 100 mV and seems stable. maybe im crazy but i dont think my uv app works :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Which are Overvolted.

I am saying that you showed a benchmark that makes it clear to me that its not worth it, especially when overvolting (which affects battery life adversely).

It doesn't matter to me which kernel you run. But for me to run it myself, I need to justify the battery loss. So far, I am not seeing a compelling case.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
im dropping the voltages :P

unfortunately it finally froze at about 1250, what are your voltages?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Stock @ 1.35ghz oc. I get best battery life from this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
i can deal with 1350 mV. and i dont care what the benchmark says my phone feels faster, im happy with it.

EDIT: i'd also like to know whats wrong with my quadrant standard benchmark... if it shows my i/o is inflated, is it a problem with benchmark?

EDIT 2: Even at stock, my cpu is considerably less then the nexus on the benchmark... sad panda
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackMamba08:
Done! Flashed francos 18.2 kernel and overclocked to 1.5.

2 questions:

1.) Do you guys mess around with minimum cpu scaling frequency? Mine is set to stock 700. Should I make this higher/lower?

2.) Should I stick with stock (kernel) under volt or change it? What would you guys recommend?

I want the best battery life possible at 1.5.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
I may have figured it out but the performance gov really messed with something on my phone. Getting (slightly) better CPU scores now and I would keep your stock voltages. I personally run 700 and there is an explanation on Franco's forum post but I dont want to go into much detail.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
Also may have found out why I have such high I/O scores. Take a look

Sent from my 1.65ghz galaxy nexus :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dorkythegreat:
I got following results. It is weird that 2D score has significantly lower than slower clock speed. I guess there must be some throttling with SGX540.

1.35GHz -> 1.65GHz

Total: 3160 -> 3322

CPU: 6271 -> 6802

Mem: 2110 -> 2388

I/O: 5893 -> 6080

2D: 218 -> 86

3D: 1307 -> 1256
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
Go to settings - developer options - scroll till you see force gpu rendering. And viola you have better 2d scores :p

Sent from my 1.65ghz galaxy nexus :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackMamba08:
Okay I guess I'm done. I set cpu speed to 1.5 max and 700 min and under volt at 1300.

I don't even know if that makes sense lol.

I don't really notice any snappiness in my phone though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
is it more laggy or just not as snappy as you expected? to test if my phone is laggy, i just scroll through all my apps and widgets, normally i dont get much lag. but if i do something is usually wrong. just an easy quick test :P

Another problem is sometimes with these phones, only some can handle 1.5ghz, yet almost all can handle 1.35. but because of a bug in the cpu and how different the phones are from one another you might have to stay with 1.35ghz
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] s2d4:
that was a typo, basically loads quandrant into ram.. so I/O is practically instant... know as the quadrant cheat

There is a more technical name for it... mounts via tmpfs... but can't remember it off the top of my head
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackMamba08:
It was actually never laggy really too laggy. Thats usually how i test it too lolol. It got a BIT better by changing it to 1.5, but in terms of other things like running multiple applications, the opening and closing of apps, etc etc doesn't seem to be snappier.

Can you please just quickly explain if I should keep my min cpu speed at 700? I think I have it at 1000 and max at 1500. Is that okay?

Also what about undervolting what would you recommend for good battery life at 1500?

I've tried to do reading on undervolting, its just not there or I'm just looking in the wrong places.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GR36:
This is franko supposedly running at 1.65. But the CPU scores about the same as running at 1.35. Weird
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
I guess it's too warm right now? @1.65GHz i managed to get 105 mflops in Linpack, while at1.2GHz i'm scoring around 77mflops only.

Though Nenamark2 is awful on latest Franco kernel, no matter what clocks i use.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
My team and I were goofing around (and meant it as a toy) and made a script called uber quadrant that loaded Quadrant into tmpfs. It spread like wildfire to other roms and phones and some even believed it had merit.

We explained it was just for fun, but...LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
When I was testing my phone it was fairly hot because I ran benchmark 6 or 7 times and it was charging. And my highest accurate mflops is 107.

Sent from my 1.65ghz galaxy nexus :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackDino:
Lol you guys realise that even a 1000mhz has nearly the same results.

Sent from my Kanged Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chopper the dog:
Tbh I really don't get why people even play with this stuff. I mean under "real world" use my device spends most of its time in the 350-700 slot anyway. :rolleyes:

good day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
Pretty good CPU score

Sent from my 1.65ghz galaxy nexus :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I tend to avoid benchmark apps, so I estimate by "butt dyno" the same way I'd be able to estimate my cars power if I hadn't had it dyno tuned. My phone feels like it has a Quadrant score of 9000+.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
Hahah I agree

Sent from my 1.65ghz galaxy nexus :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
Do same test just wthout cheats that abnormaly improves IO result ;)

Because it's YOU, other people might have different needs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
All of the benchmarks I have seen for the gnex that are oc'd have high io scores. It may be the setting I had posted before. Not quite sure...

Sent from my 1.65ghz galaxy nexus :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
The only thing I see really increased is the I/O speeds. I hate how benchmarks group everything into 1 graph. They should separate each category and group them together so you can directly compare CPU speeds with another device.

Just like the Galaxy tab has a higher overall mark but the CPU is really low.

What's IO speed do anyway. I'm assuming In/Out such as port access or data speeds? CPU and GPU are the main factors and everything else plays smaller roles.

Like others I'm not impressed with the benchmarks. We should see huge gains in the CPU department and now theirs no difference = not worth the risk/battery.

EXT LTE Galaxy Nexus 4.0.3

Transformer TF101 ICS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sblantipodi:
can you confirm that GNEX can easily run at 1.65GHz?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marc.tulley:
Firstly yes I can confirm

Secondly, its pretty pointless. The reason the CPU score is similar to stock is all down to thermal throttling. Open CPU spy, reset the values, run antutu or similar and as soon as it finishes refresh CPU spy. You'll find the bench ran at 1,65 for the first several seconds then throttled down down down.

So this may be OK for tapping around home screens but gaming other long-term heavy tasks its counter productive.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zealotki11er:
Install a fan for cooling.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Or do what ASUS does for there extreme overclocking and put the thing in liquid nitrogen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chakra:
or do all of your gaming sitting in the fridge.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Well that would last for about 20 minutes then your phone would fry from condensation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] versd:
use a dry fridge
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Google says you win.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Stretlow:
Like I questioned on another thread.

Whats the point? there's no visual differences if you overclock this phone or leave it at stock (or underclock as franco proved)

So you're smashing your battery so you can post a picture of a benchmark.

I honestly dont get it.

Unless someone can tell me otherwise, then I retract my previous statement. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] El Daddy:
E-Penis FTW!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Its just something fun to do, regardless if it has real world advantages or not.we're all phone nerds here and thats part of the enthusiast fun.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] El Daddy:
Fair enough. I just get a kick out of the enthusiasm.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
My phone runs nearly as fast as my laptop. I mean... you can't say that's not amazing :p

Sent from my 1.65ghz galaxy nexus :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mohitrocks:
If you're on AOKP, there are built in OC settings (I'm pretty sure there are anyways). If not, install the franco kernel 18.2 and try. If that still doesn't work, I'm pretty sure there is an overclocking function in franco's app (check the thread in galaxy nexus android development) along with a bunch of other goodies such as color control , etc. If you don't want to purchase his app, there is also SetCPU which does overclocking and undervolting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Max/min speeds are dependant on kernel however. So you'll only see what's available.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackMamba08:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I bought francos app, also set cpu. Like them both.

Im running at 1500 which is okay I guess. But Im getting confused about the scaling and the undervolting. I have under volt set at 1250, anything below that and my phone reboots itself.

But the scaling is set to 700. Is that good? should I have it higher or lower?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marc.tulley:
Can anyone point out the cpu on this thing? Im interested in cooling mods.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Teardown/7182/2

I coulnt spot it here...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ~WindzStriker~:
I overclock to 1.4

what would be the recommended stable voltages ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GoogleAndroid:
My phone was stable at 1.65 as well, but I am at 1.4 now. I literally watched the battery drop 6 percent from running Smartbench 2011 twice, and that was with the extended battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Hmmm...time to upgrade laptop?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
nah, i was more referring to my friends laptop that has a 1.8 ghz. i myself have a decent, gateway "gaming laptop". so its faster then what i need or use it for.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dario3040:
Gaming

Laptop

You can only pick one.

/thread

1.728 Ghz

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wangjaroni:
No point. He invalidated both by saying Gateway....:p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IFLATLINEI:
LMAO! Dare I say I game on a Compaq?

I dont see the need to overclock my Nexus. I did however overclock my Nook Color. It wasnt absolutely necessary but made quite a difference. What was necessary was overclocking my Droid Eris. That poor thing was starting to really choke under the strain of my daily use.

I have a question about these bench marking apps. I understand why many of you ignore these but is it possible to use these as a reliable tool for performance comparison? If there is what would be the procedure? For example: Clean out cache, reboot, run benchmark once. Repeat process?? It just seems to me if I run quadrant on all three of my devices I will get results which are inline with my experience using each device. So on that front Im confident the app is measuring capabilities of each device fairly. But ive only really run them once. I see how repeating tests without rebooting just served to what looked like artificial inflation of the score
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sneakysolidbake:
In day to day use, overclocking is unnecessary. This phone runs smooth even at 1ghz and sometimes lower. If I want a slight performance boost for playing a game or whatever then OC'ing does have its place but generally speaking, its a waste of battery life. Being able to crank up to 1.4 or higher is nice but the inability to do so really shouldn't disappoint someone with reasonable expectations.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dylerium:
as of now i am running at 1.35ghz max (which it barley ever hits) and 700 min. which is perfect for daily use, and i get great battery life because i also undervolted by 20 mV until i got a reboot and bumped it up about 20 mV so its now stable. im surprised at how low i could go under stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] seanmcd72:
Hello there - was hoping to get some experienced opinions on some overclocking claims made with a Droid Razr which has a very similar if not nearly identical OMAP CPU as the GNEX:

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/1280-droid-razr-maxx-hit-20ghz/

Check out that thread, which starts with someone claiming they hit 2.0ghz. That alone throws up flags for me. Not that he's lying, but that something is either allowing him to make the settings and report that speed but it's maybe not actually running at that speed? Anyways it gets even better as his phone supposedly hits 4.0ghz... So please let me know your thoughts on that, as I would LOVE to hear them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You can trick the overclocking apps to *think* you are overclocking. In the end, the displayed numbers mean little if not done correctly. I had a 1ghz kernel for the Droid 1 that ran at 550mhz. However the oc apps read it as 1ghz, LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmanUV:
you can put your phone in liquid nitrogen and OC to 4ghz. what's the point?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] seanmcd72:
?? Nobody has put their phone in liq. Nitrogen. The phone is completely intact and probably in his hand.

I'm looking for opinions on whether or not the cpu could run at those speeds
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
IM(n00b)O it would be totally inefficient at those speeds and likely have a marked

decrease

in performance. Would likely take a very special kernel in order for it to run effectively.