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[Off-topic] SpaceSpeed:
My two cents:

I recently upgraded from a MyTouch 3G Slide to a MyTouch 4G Slide... going from a 600MHz MSM7227 Qualcomm proc to a 1.2GHz MSM8260 Dual-core SnapDragon.

Now aside from the obvious bump in speed, what impressed me the most was improved battery efficiency - partly from the proc, partly from Android improvements. From what I have seen of the new Tegra 3 SoC, it basically has four system cores and one battery saver core, that runs with minimal draw when the phone is idling.

As with PC procs, I think we'll see near future software and operating systems that are able to make greater use of multi-core setups, while saving battery life.

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Here's a better question:

Why are hardware manufacturers so stingy with RAM and ROM!?

I can't believe that HTC or Samsung or Nokia would pay all that much more for 512MB of RAM as they would 2GB of RAM, right?

It just annoys me that we still have current onboard memory restrictions with so many devices in 2012 :(
[Off-topic] animal-on:
It's simple.If manufecturers will equip devices so fast of big memory,2 Gb for example,not so many people will buy new phone or tab.They will be waiting,because it's devices will works very fine with any apps.
[Off-topic] husam666:
I don't think people need all these extra cores, the only reason people think they do, is because stupid interfaces slowing the sh!+ out of their phones, if companies start concentrating on simpler UI, the need for all this RAM and CPU power will be gone, it's all part of the marketing plan, make things slower, tell people they need more cores, sell expensive phones and profit like a boss
[Off-topic] slaya811:
i absolutely agree lol
[Off-topic] VeryCoolAlan:
I don't know, I think I need 2 cores to smoothly multitask.

I own a single core phone and at times it chugs or lags when switching from Browser to Twitter.
[Off-topic] DustByte:
faster the beter!
[Off-topic] Android311:
Its a sales thing....bring more customers and more money in, they make a 230mph motorcycles and cars, do you need them or will you ever go that fast? No...But some people just want to own it and say ya, I have that new quad core phone or new 230mph car...Americans like NEW products
[Off-topic] rshabadoo:
Higher speed cores and better graphics chips should be the focus IMO
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Yes. Moar! Moar!
[Off-topic] obliv:
I'm all for faster hardware/more cores, my Galaxy S II runs so much better than my original Galaxy S.
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
It's like the megapixel race all over again. It's not the amount that counts, it's how it's used.

Expectation:

- Holy cow! This phone has 12 megapixels!

Reality:

- Holy cow! It still sucks!
[Off-topic] htc fan89:
I need a phone with 236 cores, so I can time travel:D
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
I think it's funny that you, HTC Fan, have Motorola and Samsung devices, but no HTC :p THIS is why it's stupid to use a product or manufacturer name as a username.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
True.... The cam on my Desire was better than the one the sensation has.... And it was 3mp less with worse lens
[Off-topic] htc fan89:
Waiting for the day htc goes back to what made it Great...:(
[Off-topic] dexter93:
HTC has failed in wayy too many points. The sensation will be probably the last phone I got from them. I am on a group trying to bring some dead phones back to life and its extremely difficult , because of their f$@#ed up way of thinking.
[Off-topic] Harbb:
But they ARE using them well, tegra 3 as an example. No matter how much money you throw at a nail-sized camera, it's still a nail-sized camera. It's got nothing on the most basic point and shoot. We can seriously expand with chips.

That's not without saying that many phone cameras are now absolutely excellent document scanners and great for their portability, i've taken a couple of damn good shots on my nexus s, so no complaints here. But that doesn't mean 8MP is better than 5MP.
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
We do not need them really ofcourse. But multicore processors are clearly better.

Although my HTC Desire HD can also run @ 2Ghz with max oc, the multicore will still be better because you have 2 cores handling your tasks.

My notebook als got an i7 2670QM, do I really need it? Most time not, but it performs better then an i5 because my i7 got 4 cores.

So I think having multicores is nice, but it depends on the CPU if the multicore is really good. Because AMD's new CPU's dont even come close to Intel.

For mine notebook i'm happy having my i7.
[Off-topic] Android311:
I agree with that
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
Yes of course, but let's take it from a different angle:

What would you choose?

4GHz Pentium 3, or an Intel i7 2GHz? 30 megapixel "Pandasonic" or a 8 megapixel Canon?

Numbers ain't everything. That's the only point i'm trying to get through.
[Off-topic] htc fan89:
Yeah, I agree with you. You gotta have the software optimization to back it up, like for camera's gotta have a good sensor.
[Off-topic] watt9493:
with less battery and moar fees :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] Tachi91:
To those saying more more more... I know that over time those things improve and things go faster while using less power... But right now whats the point if there is buggy software that's eating up on CPU cycles and hacking at the battery.

Would you get a Computer (Dell, HP) and not make any changes to it except you overclock the processor... Lets say an i3 factory at 1.8GHZ to 5Ghz.... Whats Happens?

1. If the PSU has even enough power to power it up to that point

2. Burns out since the Stock HeatSink/Fan can't distribute the heat fast enough

3. If the Bios didn't offer safe guards or more options when it comes to proper voltage control etc.

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1.

What I mean is before you go around bumping speed/specs up make sure you have a good power source because current Battery levels suck. And the first thing people ask anyways is "Hows the Battery Life?".

2.

If you don't got a good balance between the underlying hardware you will have issues. Good efficiency among the CPU, GPU, RAM, Radio = A more balanced use of the Battery

3.

Again you can't have buggy software that's eating away at Performance. Have software that was written properly and made for performance. What I learn in Programming was keep it clean and organized so if you got to debug you can find the issue faster or not to have useless lines that are not needed or are negative when it comes to Application quality.

I bet when your car is acting up and slowing down you just hit the gas peddle harder and start screaming FASTER FASTER
[Off-topic] Harbb:
It's about the driver as much as the car. CPU cycles need not be wasted, my phone sleeps like a baby and wakes up smooth as all hell at stock speeds. I can happily get a good 5+ hours of screen on time out of a day. It's only a single 1GHz core with 384mb of OS usable RAM too.

Set up your apps properly, android (and apple mind you) doesn't provide enough transparency and configurability when it comes to what apps do what and when they do it - this is just more of a problem with android because we see the OS lagging because it allocates decent amounts of CPU to background processes. Usually it is rogue apps causing problems, and sometimes sacrifices need to be made with badly coded ones. With a moderately powered phone we can achieve silky smoothness in the majority of the UI. With a dual or quad core, such things need not be perfected for the same result - which is excellent for the not so technically minded.

So why would i want a dual/quad/octa-core if my single is running so beautifully? Because I want a damn Desktop OS on my phone :D
[Off-topic] henkspank:
they're pretty fast and efficient compared to single core,

but when do we need something.

do we need smartphones?
[Off-topic] babribeiro:
I think we need them. or maybe not. It all depends on each individual and what we do with them. If just to make calls, well no need at all, but if to get "our lives" inside the pocket , well we need. Since everything else around us is evolving m phones/smarphones all need to follow. Not to talk about the comercial/profit side of it and the social presure of , my phone can do this , and your not ;) .
[Off-topic] husam666:
Windows Mobile 2003,5 and 6? :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Don't make me start flashing the Kaiser again :eek:. Please :p
[Off-topic] husam666:
flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash! flash!
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Ok... After the exams are over :D

Damn
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
THE

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[Bravo General] neftv:
I hope this board is well supported when questions are asked and I really appreciate the replies.

I was thinking of diving into the world of Andriod. I don't have any experience with it but I will say the closest thing I come to installing firmware on a Phone is on my present phone Nokia 5800.

So my question

Is Bravo a good phone to try to root and make better with custom ROM? Person to start out with. My other choice is in phone is either Atrix or Atrix 2 but that is a more expensive phone to mess up. Hopefully I can use it for a year or two before I do a real upgrade.

Suggestions welcome.
[Bravo General] arcwick08:
I own both the bravo and the original Atrix (4G)

The Atrix v. Atrix2 horse has been bludgeoned to death pretty thorougly around here. I think there is a post presently at the top of the Atrix general forum that has many opinion on the matter.

The atrix is a FAR more heavily modded phone than the bravo. Many more ROMs available and a more active community.

The atrix is also a far nicer phone, spec wise, if not a bit larger.

The bravo is cheaper, smaller and slower. But by no means TOO slow.

If you follow directions, ask questions, double check steps, etc; you should not ruin your phone. I dove into atrix modding knowing relatively little about Android (I came from the world of the ILoveSteveJobs) and have not yet ruined my atrix, which is running one of the recent CM7 nightly builds.

Here is a post from the Atrix forums that is GREAT:

h ttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1154600

It explains a lot of basic principals that apply to a lot of android phones. I referenced that CONSTANTLY when I first started.

If I were you and you could afford the Atrix, that is what I would get. Don't bother with the Atrix 2.
[Bravo General] neftv:
Atrix 2 and other

Thank you for the information.

Was wondering why you say don't bother with Atrix2? But then again Motorola phones don't seem to be known for their cameras that for sure.

That phone along with an LG Optimus 2X or LG Thrill was on my mind as well.

Ultimately I like having a device to do things on is nice like I would use the Netflix App or HuluPlus to watch shows and movies over wifi when I am not near a TV. I hope I would not need to install a Custom firmware every night or week but I do understand updating is important.
[Bravo General] arcwick08:
IMHO the Atrix2 is not a substantial enough improvement over the Atrix 4G to be worth the extra cost. Same res screen, same speed chip (though, a dif chip maker), same ram. The Atrix 2 has a nicer camera, but less internal storage and no finger print reader
[Bravo General] syllogyking:
if you're going to go on a new 2 yr contract from att, definitely get the atrix. as said before newest reiteration (atrix 2) is little improvement - spec wise - over OG atrix. Also, you will see an OTA ics update from motorola, as they came out with their update list a few days ago.

That being said, if you would like to get your feet wet with android, bravo is a very good phone. If your questions are not answered here, definitely visit motorola defy forums. Almost identical phone hardware except defy has 5 mp camera. Many, if not all froyo kernel defy roms will work on bravo. I, personally, keep hopping back and forth trying to milk every ounce of goodness from my bravo. Mine's unlocked, and luckily I only paid a penny for it :). Although I do think the atrix was offered for the same price too at some point, don't know if it's still there - should be since it's relatively old.
[Bravo General] neftv:
Not with AT&T

I was with AT&T but just switched to StraightTalk with the purchasing a AT&T compatiable Simm card which now is operational in my Nokia 5800. I didn't want to get stuck in another contract. So I an open to any GSM phone preferably with 850/1900 UMTS to get 3G. But I think I could flip to TMobile if I wanted to at the end of my 30 days and get a StraightTalk TMobile Compatiable Simm card. The more I think I about there a few choices of phone for the Simm I have now and it seems to come back to Bravo or Atrix 4G. The Atrix I see for close to $380 and the Atrix 2 is not that much different from where I am looking. I talking New phone here. I looked at Craiglist and seeing Atrix 1 for arond $250 but I dont know what questions to ask about the phone if I went that route like a used car will get someone elses problems?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Singingdrum:
I was wondering if anyone has been able to get the Amazon video app to work on a rooted NT. It works just fine on an unrooted NT, but once you root, even with using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, I still can't get the app to work. It gives me a message that my device is no longer configured to play videos
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gordata:
Hello everyone, Need some advice on picking up a pair of headphones that I can use to listen to music and also make calls. Apart from the Klipsch made specifically for Android, is there anything else out on the market? I really wanted the bose but read on a few sites that they dont full function correctly. I have iPhone buds that I can listen to music but the mic does not work but work fine with my Nexus S.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Punchatron:
I use these

amazon.com/V-MODA-Noise-Isolating-Headphone-Universal-One-Button/dp/B002XYUHFY/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1330051591&sr=1-12

They work great with my Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gordata:
Thanks, I am looking for standard earbuds not those noise cancellation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] MrSexyMan:
I picked up the skullcandy ones from att , they were 39.99. I know they are probably not great especially for the the price but honestly I like them alot. Decent bass to treble mix and ppl say they hear me very well when I use them.

Sent to you from the NOTE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] iKonixx:
I got some Ifrogz in ear headphones that work get at Walmart the other day. They have a Mic and a button that functions like the iphone button. I believe they were $16. The sound is pretty good I think.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Punchatron:
they are standard buds not sure why it says noise cancellation. plus noise cancellation would be way more than 30 bucks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gordata:
Sorry i am not being clear but i am talking about the non isolator ones. I am looking for something like the standard iphone style not like the in ear ones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Made2Last:
I have a pair of Altec Lansing muzx I believe they are called. Woot sells them from time to time for like 5 bucks. For the price and with the mic, they are solid. Its a braided and coated cable, just wish the 3.5mm was a right angle plug and not a 90° plug that I will surely break in my pocket eventually.

Sent from Galaxy Tab 10.1 using XDA Premium App
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] nirpp:
I have a pair of the klipsch s4a's. When plugged in my phone still uses its own mic instead of the inline mic.anybody have the sameissue or anyoneknowhow to fix?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SKyRocKeting727:
I used the one that came with my Skyrocket

That I passed on to my gf. Works great for some Oem Samsung earbuds.

-On another NOTE, Samsung goes 5.3"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] clipse94:
I use some skullcandy ones that I guy from target for $20. They work great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Underground_XI:
$7.99 apple earphones with mic on ebay from dailysteals
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] eliter1:
I just tried my Zagg headphones and the paus/play/forward/back button works. I would recommend these headphones if you can find them for cheap, especially since they replace them if they stop working. I don't think they are worth full price.

Tried my Bose AE2 and the play/pause/forward/back button works but not the volume controls.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kikex76:
What about the Bose Mic? I have the apple model, and doesn't work :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
Fyi i saw in a development thread that the Mic and button issue is a software issue and someone had posted a fix. Ill sweet if i can find it tomorrow.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] roperband:
Bump for the fix. My good Apple headphones don't work during phone calls either. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
Still trying to find ty for the reminder
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] n00b1269:
I got my lg tone bluetooth with ear buds for free when my lady got her nitro hd at best buy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
how do you like those? they look really gimmicky to me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Josheek318:
I am using the one that came with the Samsung Focus (windows phone :cool:). It works great. The mic, volume control, pick up and end call function works too. I actually had a $40 skull candy earbud... but the volume control didn't work. I use it with double twist and when i press the on and off button it plays music using double twist. press twice quickly and it goes to the next track. press 3 times and goes reverse. i <3 OEM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Dubro:
I tried skull candy 50/50 mega bass. They sound good. But the mike and fwd, rev., pause buttons do not work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SweetRedVoice:
Are you refering to the Zagg SmartBuds? Do they have a volume rocker that works with the Note

~Love my gNote~
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sbddude:
The zagg buds have a volume control that is independent of the device its plugged into. It can reduce the volume using a slider on the cord. However its easy to bump it and turn too loud so i don't like it.

The only way i have found to control the actual

Phone volume is with bluetooth.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kaishi00:
unless you stuff the headphones into your jeans pocket, it's not that easy to change the volume slider, i havne't had that much trouble with it yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SteveSlimer:
Does anyone know where to get the OEM headphones for the International Note?

Just saw a picture of them on The Verge and they look great AND have music controls on them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
I have some
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sbddude:
That's nice but how does that help us? Where did you get them?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
Came with ;)

Haven't tried them yet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SteveSlimer:
Color me jealous. If you don't feet around to using them for a while, I would be happy to take them off your hands.

Sent from my Galaxy Note with Tapatalk.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
It is possible I could be...convinced to part with them
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] honglyunz2:
Any news on good headphones with mic? possibly with volume control as well?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] n00b1269:
Sorry it took so long to get back. I am not a fan of Bluetooth and prefer wired, but man i love that LG tone headset. I use it at my desk mostly. Sound quality is great, i love the ear buds stay in the set with magnets and ends vibrate when i get a call. I thought the tone would suck, but I love it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] b k w:
I picked up a set of Skullcandy 50/50 headphones based on some of the suggestions here. I tested them inside the store (J&R) and the mic worked, but the toggle buttons, nor the center button would not. It was a compromise I was happy with because the mic feature is more important to me than the controls.

However, the minute I walked back into my office, the mic stopped working and now the control (center button) works?!?!

What gives?? Someone stated that it may be a software related issue, but after some googling I can't find anything that supports that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lowspeed:
Check this video out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa90GuIGZ6A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
So I finally found it. Was a software fix for the international note from imilka...maybe someone can port it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] keplenk:
I really wanted to post a new thread about this but since it is somewhat related I'll just post it here.

I need a cheap (I lose earbuds all the time) with mic + volume control. I really don't care much about skip/forward/back buttons.

I also don't mind an independent volume control as long as the mic is close to the mouth.

I really find it disturbing that it is so hard to find an Android Compatible mic + volume rocker around. It's all iPhone/iTouch/iProducts .... which pisses me off :( The sad part is, those things are not compatible with Android devices.

I thought the 50/50 Skullcandy is gold but I heard that the volume rocker does not work, which is a no deal for me.

The only earphones + mic + vol rocker that worked is the HTC ones ($5). However, the mic is so far away. It reaches my tummy already. The person I talk to over the phone can't understand me especially when I'm in an area with moderate noise. Also, the earbuds itself are sooo big!!! It does not fit my ears, it falls off all the time.

Anyone has an idea?

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] eazyweazy3:
I had a International SII and those came with earphones w/mic so I kept those for my Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] derrick_:
This is a problem with Samsung phones, not Android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] esincho:
My power beats Mic work on my s2, but not the note. So idk what's different, but it sucks