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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smw6180:
I'd be interested to see it. If I can get a decent launcher with scrollable widgets that I can do hubs in, I'll re-do my set up. That's probably the ONLY launcher I haven't tried.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
n/m, had to change the font size under icons / use new fonts or wherever in that mess of a menu system the option is..

Anders needs to get out scrollable widget support ASAP.. Has anyone confirmed the man is still alive?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smw6180:
SSLauncher comes up as incompatible on the market.

Edit: I just double checked...both the free and paid versions are incompatible with any of the tablets I have, but it works on all of my phones from my HTC Hero, up to my HTC Evo 3D. Sounds like it doesn't like tablets.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
Haven't tried on my Prime yet but put it on my Dell Streak & loving it

many thanks

ps hubs with one third the effort your being conservative I would say 1 fith far far easier
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fyreprone:
How did you get past the lack of scrollable widgets support? I'm also struggling with the HUB titles. They're listed at the top of the home page, but if you have say 7 pages it goes downhill from there.

So for example on my TFP I started with the home page showing something like:

[HOME][Games][Music][Media][Social][Tools][Apps]

But touching on the label for say "Media" doesn't take you to the [Media] hub as I'd hoped. In addition, when I do tab over to the [Media] page the list at the top now reflects only [Media][Social][Tools][Apps] with the previous pages having gone away entirely. If I'm on the [Apps] page then I see no other Hubs listed.

I ended up having to toss an Apps page in there because apparently with SSLauncher you have to declare a page as being an app-drawer page, you can't otherwise seem to get directly to the app drawer without it being setup as an entire page. You can do a page that is setup as an App "group" but then you can't have widgets on these app pages. It's merely either the full app drawer, or a subsection of apps that you select individually, laid out in app drawer fashion.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pyro6128:
Wow that sounds pretty lame
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
If you want media page add new page (cover page if you want to add widgets) name it media then go back to main page long press blank space, choose shortcut, type-page then target it should show new page called media in list select it, apply changes and then you have shortcut straight to media page

can do this for any page any name you choose. If you just want list of certain type of apps use application group or else use cover page

Havent tried scroolable widgets yet

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I have just experimented & now have 10 yes TEN pages with no problems
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fyreprone:
But that makes a new icon shortcut rather than reusing the labels at the top of the page right? I've tried that and I end up having to recreate the Hub "list" on another part of the page which to me seems to defeat the purpose of having a list of Hub pages at the top.

As for the widgets on pages, I've gone the Cover Page route, which does let you add widgets but the widgets I've added don't appear to be scrollable. For instance adding the bookmark widget gives you a static list of bookmarks you can't scroll through. And adding apps to the pages is possible so I suppose that's more of a non issue, unless you're trying to do app folders which I was for things like having an Angry Birds folder on the Hub page [Games].
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
I dont know how I did it* but along top I only have name of current page other page names I am going down in column,

I only just installed a little while ago and still playing with settings but just tried scrollable widgets and seems like thats a no go there

UPDATE just downloaded scrollable news widget and it works fine, originally was my calender widget not working but when resized works fine so scrollable widgets are working ok on SSLauncher

*

I worked out how I changed it go into themes change animation type to flipping then apply it removes the inactive page names across top then you could add your own shortcuts

check settings out you can also set page name to right, center or left aligned
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Keion:
This also works with apex launcher i believe.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fyreprone:
Okay I worked out the part where you have just the current screen label at the top, but how did you get the scrolling news widget to work? Which news widget is this and which version of sslauncher are you on? I've tried every scrollable widget I can find and none of them do any scrolling action at all. I've tried calendar, colorize calendar, colorize facebook, default gmail, default bookmarks, wizz widgets of all sorts, etc...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smw6180:
How are you getting SSLauncher on your primes? Market says it's not compatible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fyreprone:
I think ultimately I had to shop around on Google for the sslauncher APK. Apparently I can't provide a link to anything but if you search for "sslauncher apk" I tried one of the top results.

I wanted to say thank you for helping us HUBs TFPers with discussing how you got yours to work. I really appreciate the effort!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gpga:
I'm realy interrested to understand how you achieve to use scrolable widget, as all my tries failed.

Thanks to share how you perform

BR
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Thank you!

This is very basic of course, I'll be refining it more once my Prime has some battery life (left the charger at work).

But kudos, it looks so legit. I'm considering reverting to an earlier version of ADW Ex to have the entire screen available, but this is still way fun.

And here it is in motion.

[YOUTUBE]8PzkMN2ogaI[/YOUTUBE]
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Thanks for the great tutorial!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Johan Kraczmar:
Hi friends,I am looking for wallpaper with converse shoes. The ling is death and I cannot find it anymore. Can somebody help me? :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Feel free to use this one if you want.. I took it in Zurich over the summer. I don't think it's the one you're looking for though.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tycn/5904834493/in/set-72157626997214085/lightbox/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Johan Kraczmar:
Thank you my friend but I mean the picture from first page. The pair of converse shoes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Oh, sorry! :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slayer69:
Yea I had even messaged the Op about that link....but he never responded. Would be cool to get them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
where you find your wallpapers at?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
'darin, I generally use wallbase.cc because of its numerous options. I know you weren't asking me lol just putting it out there. I could have had more appropriate wallpapers I suppose, but I got really tired of looking for backgrounds and just wanted to keep playing with the hubs themselves.

*EDIT:

Lol, I had guessed this would happen since I never use widgets or anything, but damn does this consume some battery just to be pretty :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
mostly 4walled.org

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srsly.. wicked battery drain.. gonna have to kill ADW if I take the prime while traveling and switch back to the stock launcher.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
actually, I just had a neat thought along the simpletext method.. I'm going to take each of my backgrounds and physically edit them in photoshop to display my hubs layouts (i'll add the icons and other design elements to the background, and save it all as a .jpg..) this will allow me to use any windows / true-type / open font I want, and be more creative in my layouts. Then I'll just create blank icons associated with the launcher actions and move them over the icons I've drawn on the background in photoshop.

That removes any need for minimalistic text and the widgets. If I use layers in photoshop, and keep the actual, non-edited background as a separate layer, it'll make changing out backgrounds pretty easy. Plus, I can draw over the full screen, I'm not limited to ADW's "almost full screen" widgets.

So much easier (at least for me), more design choices, and no crazy battery drain.

I'll test this out, but if a launcher supports a blank / invisible icon and a shortcut to a homescreen, this completely removes the need to use ADW (and we can get our scrolling widgets back!!!!)

Another, even simpler option, if you already have a layout you like, is just to remove any non-hubs icons off the screen, then take a screenshot of each screen. Then wipe all of your home screens clean, and then set each background to the screenshots you just took. Then just create blank icons on top of the "icons" that are in your screenshot.

That way you have a blank icon that sits above the screenshot of the widget that used to be there.

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hrmm.. now that I think about it, blank / invsible icons via simpletext might be launcher-independent.. that would just leave the homescreen launcher actions.

My prime is at home (I'm at work).. can someone test the following..

1. - See if you can use simpletext to create an invisible icon in the stock launcher and then erase the label?

2 - See if you can create a launcher-action shortcut to go to a homescreen with the stock launcher, Launcher Pro, etc..

If we can get #1 & #2 to work while using a given launcher, then we can replicate the hubs setup with that launcher.

I'll dig into this deeper this weekend, and if I'm successful, I'll put up a video / tutorial.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I had already considered that, but wanted to give all this a go.

Naturally it's going to be less time consuming and allow more options to just use BG images for it all. But this way gives you almost your own (resource intensive) overlay that, like in my video, can give you some really neat options for moving the hubs separately from the BG images.

Photoshop/Illustrator route would definitely yield more stability and control though.

And great suggestion for the screenshots! That's definitely a plausible route if you love your current setup but need your battery back :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Thanks! I agree, going through the process manually is a great learning experience and allows for an amazing amount of flexibility.

I think the photoshop method ("hard-coded hubs") will appeal to those of us who value aesthetics and the cool hubs "look" over having the flexibility of the "live hubs" layout.

and most importantly to me, if we can get the "hard-hubs" to work outside of ADW, we can get our scrollable widgets back. :D

Good point about Illustrator too, that's probably the proper way to do it.. but seeing as how I'm a photographer, I have zero AI skills..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] trita629:
Or you could just use your dock. Made the process much faster
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
OK, I've verified the hard-hubs approach will work under Launcher Pro! :)

hello scrollable widgets!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
You mean ADW's little wanna-be Apple dock? No thanks, only reason I even got ADW is to play around with this exactly how the OP had it, I personally have never liked ADW or Go.

Fantastic! Suppose I'll see how LP works out on my Prime, it's what I use for my phone already. I've always preferred it, namely because the transitions don't feel so overboard or laggy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Yeah, I'm excited about that! The only tricky part is that I had to write custom shortcuts to get to screen 1, screen 2, etc.. Once that's done you just create a shortcut to the screen, set a transparent icon, and then the rest is photoshop/illustrator.

I'm curious to see if I can get the 'catalogs' functionality working, I never played around with it in my live hubs setup. As long as LP supports the catalogs, it'll work.

hrmm.. looks like LP may not do catalogs.. I found a workaround with 'Apps Organizer' and setting that shortcut with no label / transparent icon.. but it doesn't scroll, just opens a big folder. I'll keep looking for a workaround that scrolls instead of displaying a bunch of icons.

Going to check out Apex launcher later as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ratchoke99:
This is what I have so far, I can't seem to find any good wallpapers in relation to News or Social lol. But I spent a good few hours working this thing, lol. Went for a minimalist style.

I don't have many apps yet, I've only the prime for a few days now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
lol, don't know about social though

http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/82612

http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1704200

http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/893315

http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1363983

http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/730777
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ratchoke99:
Thank u gonna rotate those see which works best, except kiera cuz i dislike her.

Also does anyone get probems with Widgets not scrolling properly? For example I use the stumble and YouTube widget, but doesn't allow me to scroll through them by sliding up or down.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] trita629:
You can change the dock background in ADW. This way you don't have to make multiple icons/widgets for every single screen.

And LP isn't even optimized for tablets
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
No, it's not at all. Glitchy as all hell on my Prime :D

On to try others. ADW hogs too much of my system, it's one of my top battery drainers now. Time will help lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Woot! Got Apex to work with the hard-coded hubs.. I gave up on LauncherPro.. it would've worked, but Apex kicks LP's butt.. Scrollable widgets work, and 9 screens at 10x10 grid. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ratchoke99:
I thought LP worked off of ADW Launcher EX?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
I'm not sure I follow..?

I got the hard-coded hubs to work on both LP and Apex. Apex is just such a better launcher for this, that I quit working on LP. Both work fine if you want hard-hubs.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Not at all. Completely different apps from different developers. Both paid apps. You donate or whatever for LP and get an unlock code over email.

It's the best thing on my phone IMO but as stated not at all optimized for tablets. Will try Apex.

Started working on some "hard"-hubs this afternoon. Will continue tomorrow after less physical labor lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ratchoke99:
Little new to this, but is the 'hard'coded hubs separate from the ADW Launcher? Because if I could use the hubs (which I'm assuming is the bar where I can fast scroll from page 1, 3, ect. Then also have it where I can launch apps from like a deskdrawer). In the Apex format to get the scrolling widgets, I might try that. I also liked the gestures, I liked scrolling on the top to open up the browser, and down on the bottum to open up the market (since I'm still trying to DL all the cool apps I can find).

P.S. if HUBS is separate, which app was actually allowing me to do this lol?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
No worries, everyone was new. :)

Hubs isn't anything official, it's just a concept. Basically the idea is to just use labels on the screen to scroll to other screens.

What buxtahuda and I have been bouncing around is using the hubs concept, but basically creating background images that have the labels and bars, etc drawn onto the background itself (hard-coding). So instead of a background, with a widget on top of it that scrolls to another screen, you have the same background with a picture of that widget (all in the same background image). Then you set that image as your new background/wallpaper on your tablet, and we put a blank icon on the screen, on top of that picture of a widget (or line of text, etc..), and the icon is what sends you to the other screens.

ADW was used for a number of reasons, mainly that it played friendly with the widgets and other apps used to implement the hubs concept. If we draw all of the stuff we want on the actual background, we don't have to rely on those widgets, and thus don't have to be stuck using ADW (which has several annoyances).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] trita629:
For me, when I did that I had a problem with the background not matching the shortcuts when in portrait mode. I guess not a problem if you only use landscape mode, but I usually use portrait when I'm not docked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Yep, a definite weakness, though for me, stuff usually looked goofy in portrait mode anyways with the widgets, etc.. but I agree, it will be off in portrait mode.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ratchoke99:
Ohhh, so basically I'm just making a wallpaper w/ the bars already made? LoL, I can't believe I didn't think of that to begin w/. So simple, yes ingenious.

LoL thanks, I might give it a shot. Another part of me is just saying wait for an update for ADW Launcher EX, I guess it was only an issue w/ ICS, so I'm assuming it should be resolved w/ next update! *crosses finger*
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I hadn't considered this. Damn, with the widgets it wasn't all that bad (even in landscape they don't all line up with each other) IMO but I'm sure using a BG makes it that much more noticeable.

I'm always docked and never really use it portrait, but I don't want to show it off to someone and it get all goofy when they turn it "like an iPad." (I had someone ask me why I never turn my "iPad" up the normal way before I had gotten the dock lol)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
OK, minor issue for Apex Launcher + Multipicture LiveWallpaper.. the transition type inside Multipicture wallpaper can leave borders or cropped images if it's not set right. You'll know it right away when you see it.

So far I've found the following transitions to work correctly with Apex Launcher..

None

Fade In/Out

3D Rotation (kind of, looks strange at the far side)

Cross fade

Currently I'm using Apex Transition set to Card Stack, and Multipicture set to Cross Fade. Not as cool as the other effects, but it works fine.

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Yeah, I just disabled auto-rotate. I just tell people it was designed to be used in landscape orientation.. which it was.. For me it's not a problem, but I can understand the issue though,
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
OK, I'm up 100% with Apex Launcher.. nice to get scrollable widgets back, and the ICS app drawer. I'll put a video up tomorrow showing it, and I'll include my .psd template for photoshop users. Getting the layout to match up with the launcher screen was a major PITA.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Russss:
My Hubs

I finally got my hubs to where I am satisfied. I am using Apex launcher, Simple text, and Circle launcher. I am using icons made with simple text for circle launcher. When you press the text it dims the screen and shows the apps in that "folder" in either a horizontal/vertical bar or a circle.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
As promised, a quick video of the hard-hubs running on Apex Launcher, showing off some of the nice functionality that Apex brings back over ADW.

[YOUTUBE]3JvXTqP3lp8[/YOUTUBE]

If there's any interest in the .psd template for Photoshop, let me know. It's ~30MB last time I checked, so I can't attach it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Here's the link to the layout .psd. I figured out why it was so large, and fixed that. It's now ~2MB.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4005000/hard_hubs_layout.psd

A couple of notes.. Each navigation box (right hand column links) has two sub-groups.. "Active" for when you're on the active page (for me, books is on page one, so on page one, the Books navigation box would be active. On page two, it would be inactive), and "Inactive" for links to the other pages. The concept here is that you get the layout setup for that active page, then save it off as a .jpg, and re-do the next page, save that as a .jpg, etc.. This way you can easily go back into the layout file and swap backgrounds, change text, etc..

You'll see the guide when you open up the PSD. Where your finger is going to hit the invisible icon is between those cyan/blue bars, so center your text around that.

This is for a landscape, 10x10 grid. You're on your own if you want to go portrait or with another grid size.

Hope that helps!

If you've got some questions specific to that layout feel free to ask, but please don't start asking how to use layers or create text in Photoshop. There are plenty of tutorials out there for the basic stuff.

Oh, I didn't include the font I used, I figured most people want to use their own. That may cause it to look funky when you first open it up. If you want to use my font, it's called 'Steelfish'.

You can get it here. http://www.dafont.com/steelfish.font
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ratchoke99:
Where did u change these settings? In apex settings or the live wallpaper settings? Because I can't seem to fix that issue where the pics are cropped off on the edges.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
Setting the transitions in multipicture will fix it. It's in the multipicture live wallpaper settings.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gpga:
Hello,

if you use SSlauncher, you can have different background when you are in portrait or landscape mode...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gpga:
Following your kind recommandation, i tried to do something with Apex launcher.

The enoying point for me is that it do not consider the full page to put icons or widget, I miss 3cm each right and left boarder where I cannot put anything.

Is it normal behaviour or do I miss a parameter somewhere to manage that? FYI I put no margin in the apex launcher parameters..

Thanks for feedback
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
I've noticed this myself, and I'm not pleased with it. The margins take up a lot of space. I believe this was done on purpose so that if you used the tablet in portrait mode (tall) that the top and the bottom of the screen are usable for the dock / notifications.

As of right now I don't think we can use the 3cm of space on the sides.. :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I wonder if there isn't an older release of ADW that's not such a resource-hog and restores the use of the entire screen-space?

Far as APEX goes, you'll just have to account for the margins in your BG design? Still, portrait will be awkward to deal with without using an actual overlay/widgets.

Anyone tried Nova yet, does it work on the Prime?

Right now I just went back to the stock launcher with all my folders, I can't be using 30% of my battery each day to look pretty, and I've missed just being able to touch the edge of the screen to move the page.

This is just about making me want to create my own damn launcher lol I've got to learn JAVA and C++ :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rits06:
question

Hi guys, who you overlaping the widgets and icons whit Apex louncher, thx for any tip xd
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] namebrandon:
I think either you or I are misunderstanding how you want to use hubs + apex.. I don't think Apex supports overlapping widgets right now. Can you give me an example of how you want to use overlapping widgets?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rits06:
Hi and thx for the replay, i want to use Minimalistic text whit some icons, but cant get the bar like i made whit ADW, i saw some guys say in the treat that they use apex, but I cant find a setings in apex to overlaping T.T, well any advice can be usefull XD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ratchoke99:
Apex doesn't allow for overlapping widgets.