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[Eee Pad Transformer General] MrGuy:
I think you need to also improve your reading comprehension, maybe even checkout my previous post. The point i was making is that a lot of the community is giving negative feedback (as i said), and we as a community (majoritively) expected great things(as i and you said.) As I said previously, we as a community and as an informed consumer are correct. You pointed out "all the people whining" and i observed that's the majority of the community. I also continued to say that the what the majority of the community say is correct, in terms of marketing, advertising and general business practice: the customer is always right.

So, if you read and comprehended my previous paragraph, you'll see everything in it is just repeating what you said, and what I said, in pretty much the same way. You seemed to have struggled to comprehend this....

So back to my previous point (as i said) your original post is not contructive, it is trolling.

To bring in another new point, similar to what has been raised round here (and the prime forums also) is users not accepting criticisms of TF101 and TF201 and having overly high expecttions of ICS. We accept criticisms, and we are heavily critical, but the difference between this community, and the feature that differentiates you from it, is that the rest of the criticism on here is

constructive

- not destructive, insulting and as i said in my previous post, consequently useless. What has your post provided to the community? What valid issue has it highlighted? What constructive solution to a problem has it suggested? Personaly (i maybe wrong, and i emphasize this is my subjective response here) your posts in this thread have done nothing but insult the majority of the community - "****tards" ... really?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] horndroid:
Not even gonna read that long post because it's irrelevant.

Read your own post again. I will even bold the part that you need to read.

The fact is, I did not call the entire community a bunch of ****tards.

Not sure why this is so hard to comprehend for you.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] MrGuy:
You pointed out how the people whining and complaining an having expectations about ICS were ****tards - check the forums, 99% of users validly had expectations of ICS (giving it's been in the making for months and month now) and these users (as i've said 3 times now, some cases of which you openly admitted not bothering reading) as consumers are correct in whatever expectations and criticisms they have.

Finally, if you're not going to read responses to your own threads, then why bother even posting? Since you're not even reading the full responses to your own threads, I will now stop responding and suggest this thread be closed for being unconstructive, insulting and generally undermining the entire concept of a forum.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jinsoku3g:
Do you have full 2d rendering for hardware acceleration on in the dev section of your settings? I'm not getting any kind of lag. if ou are, once custom kernels come out, try the conservative scheduler, i had lag on my nexus then switched the scheduler and never saw lag again
[Eee Pad Transformer General] horndroid:
Don't put words in my mouth. You are drawing at straws now.

I never said anything negative about people having expectations.

My words were directed at people who spammed the forums with their cries and whines about not getting their amazing ICS. They weren't criticizing the quality of ICS or sharing their expectations of ICS. They were simply whining. Those people weren't 99% of the community. They weren't even the majority.

Btw, what expectations? ICS itself was released long before it was released for TF101. I already knew what to expect of ICS. Most people did too.

Your argument that I insulted the entire community is still false. It does seem like you are one of the minority that would take offense from my post though.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Danzano:
You switched to conservative gov? why why would you?

Interactive or on demand would do a way better job and you can do finer tuning with on demand than conservative
[Eee Pad Transformer General] horndroid:
...

Forced GPU rendering has nothing to do with it.

Try a HD quality live wallpaper. You will see lag. A lot of it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Drybonz:
No... definitely better.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Radiofodder:
Shame about the LWP. I haven't tried them yet, but stock launcher is such an improvement in smoothness and responsiveness. I've got ADW but I still prefer the stock launcher. The fact that I'm typing this without any sort of keyboard lag is really all I wanted.

Anyone majorly disappointed is either experiencing gamebreaking bugs or had unreasonable expectations. Personally, I'm surprised at how much better my TF101 became with the update.

Honeycomb really comes across as a hacked together OS by comparison.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] karapoutsoglou:
just read two lines of another stupid thread about how "bad" is ics.

we are full of noobs and attention whores unfortunately.

ICS IS A DREAM. goodbye netbook at last.

the rest is history.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] haddis:
Shut up and by an IPAD....

I love ICS on my TF!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Magnesus:
Without live wallpapers it's much smoother to me. With live wallpaper it's slower than HC for me (but I will have to try again one time, because first few hours after updating it was slowing down a little probably doing sth in the background, after a night it's very fast now).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] horndroid:
You must be retarded.

Just because I don't think ICS is super amazing, I should get an ipad?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] haddis:
Yes, that's right. Am retarded :rolleyes:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] leerobson99:
Well I think ics has made an improvement from honeycomb. As for the troll, I'm finding it harder to read this forum more and more. Sick of all the pricks.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] schauol1:
I wonder what's more annoying... the cryin about ICS or the crying about the crying.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] MrGuy:
Or me crying about the guy crying about the cryin: abstract-meta crying
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bob dylan:
my tuppence.

ICS is way faster than HC, all browsers render faster, scren transitions are faster as is the app draw.

i have used the asus live wallpapers and havent noticed any drop in screen transition speed.

the only person doing the whining is the OP.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] larryvand:
To the OP: I think YOU are the one that is delusional. ICS is 10x faster than HC. And here is proof...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVlQ0VOFPiw

The ASUS ICS video proves that is is YOU that is delusional. The ICS update is AWESOME and screaming fast.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mcbyte_it:
ICS is not just about the smooth transition of the home screen, but because of the list of new things introduced in it:

Source: Wikipedia
[Eee Pad Transformer General] parmend:
IMO ics flys!!!!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SiNJiN76:
Are you serious guys? You let the troll lure you in here for 5 pages?!? :eek: :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] oka1:
•••THREAD CLOSED•••

This is just devolving into nothing productive

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[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] inmortal009:
Well after moths investigating on internet and different carriers in my country I can solve this, the thing is here we have HSPA+ "4G" i'm with Digicel right now but the thing is I still getting 3G, moreover settings>about>status>mobile net type says HSDPA and I've confirmed they use 1900Mhz for 4G

Customer service as always don't even know what all of this things are so this is my last resort to solve this mystery. Is the carrier or the phone??????:confused:

thanks in advance :(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] inmortal009:
Thanks for the reply but the post don't really help me because Digicel only use 1900 as I said I got 3G but not HSPA+. When I enable/disable wcdma 1900 is it turns to 3G/edge instead of "4G"
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lumin30:
When choosing a phone, what frequencies will work on this network?

· Our 4G network will work well with any 3G+ handset which supports 2100 MHz.

This is off of one of Digicel's websites.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] inmortal009:
Sorry for don't mentioned this before but I'm with Digicel Panamá, here the only available bands are 850 and 1900 and they only use 1900. However I tested with 2100 only enabled and doesn't work.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] inmortal009:
This phone can use 1900mhz too, for some reason I only get 3.5G instead 4G or H+ symbol...:confused:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jigglynuts:
I am with Cincinnati Bell and have never been able to get my phone on 4g (except when I was in Chicago). I have spent hours on the phone with customer service, reading forums, posting questions and I still to this day only get 3g. There is something odd about this phone using another (smaller) carriers 4g (hspa+).

However, I know that there are a lot of people that use Simple Mobile with our phone and 4g is no problem... so idk
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] inmortal009:
Well I give up there is nothing left to try and we'll never know the cause of the problem
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjballar41:
does the transformer not do the face recognition unlock?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] linuques:
Nope. It wasn't enabled in this release.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danzano:
They have not got it to work on the prime so unless one of our devs can make a godlike hack or asus does a update that enables it no time soon :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjballar41:
well dang that sucks o well maybe soon thanks guys
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 0verwatered:
Im gueesing I have the apn settings somewhat right but I have problems getting mms. I dont see 3g showing up but I have a H and when opening apps it says I need to connect to a faster internet connection. Switching to airplane mode then out of it the app will sometimes work.

Anyway of fixing these issues? Any help is appreciated!
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onyx10:
What are your apn settings? Im currently running a streak on ST and everything works flawlessly
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jrt9780:
If you're running flawlessly...then do you mind posting your APN settings? I've been searching the forum and the web for days now and managed to find a thread one time but have had no luck finding it again. Someone had posted settings for Streak on ST that worked great. I'm having MMS issues and poor service while my wifes AT&T Note on ST works perfect with 4G and all. I'm using a T-mobile Streak on ST and I'm about to go postal.

I searched and searched otherwise I wouldn't be posting. (<----NOOB....I know.)
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Your problem is that you have an AWS (T-Mobile) Streak. Straight Talk is an AT&T MVNO, meaning they purchase signal from AT&T. T-Mobile Streaks on AT&T will never do any better than EDGE (2G) speeds because the radio frequencies for T-Mobile are slightly different from AT&T. Thus your Streak will never do any better than EDGE speeds on Straight Talk.

And no, there's no way to change the radio to get it to work on Straight Talk, so don't ask.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jrt9780:
Isn't the AWS streak rare? But for no apparent reason it would seem.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
AWS Streaks are in fact quite rare. The reason you don't hear much about them these days is simply because the AT&T frequencies are the standard used in the rest of the world, and most of our posters are from Europe and Asia, which never saw an AWS Streak.

Put simply, the AWS Streak is a US exclusive for a small carrier.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Torisen:
That has the starship Enterprise shooting a Klingon or Roumlan vessel and it exploding?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Torisen:
Sorry, site is making me login everytime, can't reply. What I meant was Boot Animation.
[Motorola Photon 4G] R2DeeTard:
Because you haven't made it yet.
[Motorola Photon 4G] roundeye1987:
Is there an app or something to make boot animations? I could make a few good ones if it wasn't too bad to do.

Sent from my CM9 Electrify.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
Thought we'd have a thread here for mainly Dev's so we can communicate in one section with the already isolated sections.

Well, I'll start off first:

Does anyone have luck on the following?

- Creating AOSP kernel (GB base)

^ 2.6.35 source is out on htcdev, but kernels are not my expertise. I contacted cayniarb to see if he'd be willing to make one for us.

- Building any AOSP roms? GB/ICS hacks

^ Been trying CyanogenMod 7 unsuccessfully for a few days.

I don't think it's impossible, however given several tries at compiling. Resulting zips just don't boot, probably bootimage/kernel related... Think I have got all the proprietaries pulled and needed files set up by mostly mimicking other MSM8655 builds.

- Direct porting flyer roms to express

^ Something I may try soon if I can't get any progress done on my end. This is probably not very hard, but looking at the Flyer choices there doesn't seem to be a whole lot we are missing out completely on.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] maff1989:
I can vouch for this; using any Flyer ROM with the View kernel that matches the version of Android (i.e. GB or HC) WILL work on the View. Namely, LeeDroid's GB ROM with the OC View GB kernel. Although, using the Flyer kernel will cause a bootloop :\

The only thing we are missing out on is an optimized kernel. We wouldn't even need Flyer ports with a "proper" View kernel ;)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
I am more interested in getting ICS working right now. I'm working on the final build of CypherROM and from there working on themes and a kernel. My team has been trying to build a kernel based off of leedroid's work for some time, but haven't had any luck.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
It looks like a dev just made an alpha AOSP kernel for the flyer, which we can't use of course (for the newbs reading):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22955319&postcount=103
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jmz:
The biggest problem is the WiMAX. Doing some research it looks as though we might be able to use HTC "speedy" aosp kernel source. Same processors and gpu. Just need to get a hold of kernel source and comparing def_configs. I have done nothing but kinda look into it. I have built the device folders too. But I knew the kernel was the issue so I wasn't going to compile. And once we get an aosp kernel we can also get a decently functional touch recovery.

---------- Post added at 05:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:12 PM ----------

Also, I noticed cyanogenmod kernel source for msm7x30 has the express in its defconfig. So Im looking into that right now
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] HTCFlyerX:
Hello everyone....I am a previous developer from the EVO 3D and would like to let some devs know that if they want working Beats then take a peak at the Sensation XL!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
Why don't you just port it for us? ;)

If I only had more time I could actually get more done with my rom and try to build AOSP. Getting promoted has just taken away all my time.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jmz:
In my opinion beats makes music sound like crap when ported. And I have had it on multiple devices.

My aosp kernel testing is not going very well. I really need to read up on board files in the kernel to remove the sense stuff from them
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
I thought it sounded good on the E3D...(?)

@jmztaylor As for the kernel, would you be interested in working with my team to get the stock one working on cypherROM? Daniels7 (leedroid tweaks) gave me permission to port his tweaks over to my rom, but I need a kernel port of the leedroid kernel or something to that effect (I'd like to build our own). I don't know enough about kernels to do it myself and unixdood hasn't had any luck building one. Everytime I try to cook it in, or even make it flashable it causes bootloop. PM me if you do or if you'd like to work on anything else (including teaching me lol). Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] HTCFlyerX:
Hmmm maybe I will just go ahead and do that but idk....getting kicked out and my ROMs shut down was not very nice....just maybe though!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wyldkard:
So would LeeDroids HC Flyer Rom work on the the View?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jmz:
No it won't. Kernel won't boot for one. I don't think I have tried putting EVO view kernel on it. But I still highly doubt it would boot.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jmz:
I have tried taking flyer kernel and porting it to the view but I can't get it to finish compiling. Even after fixing the missing stuff I still was getting a lot of errors. So I put it on the back burner. I got too many projects going on. HTC policy officially is 90-120 days to release kernel source. So we are almost there. LOL
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
@HTCflyerX What happened?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] HTCFlyerX:
Spartan.....hold your horses LOL....I've got to port the beats sound effect into our htcmusic app first....once that's finished ill be releasing the first Beats ROM for the View
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
*tear* all that anticipation...gone...

jk :p
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
Got some good news from tiamat

Sent tiamat a message, got a reply back. There is hope for us, but we need people to jumpstart and kick development back into the Evo View. So, testers needed on irc...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] killahrey:
Willing tester here! I'm off tomorrow and have no problem staying up late!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
I'd be willing to test. Not tonight, as my View is out of juice right now, but in the future I'd be happy to try and test out stuff. Just tell me where to go.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
tiamat is on IRC, find him on irc.freenode.net channel room #tiamat

His handle is cayniarb, but probably isn't hard to find and people in the room will help out.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
I'll do it too plus I have a ROM to test it with.

EDIT: Just went into the IRC but everyone was gone, Logged in, but gone. One of you guys if you go on there today, let cayniarb know that my team will test for him on CypherROM and to pm/email me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
I'm logged into IRC now, but it looks like everybody is off doing something else. If tiamat comes back in the next few hours, I'll see if I can get started on testing.

---------- Post added at 08:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:19 PM ----------

So what tiamat just told me that what he needs from us is an AOSP ROM. As far as I know, none of the ROMs here are AOSP, and even the ICS port that the Flyer guys are using is based on Sense.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
I've already compiled an experimental CM7 build(it's AOSP) but because it doesn't have the right kernel, I can't get it to boot. Most of the device configuration and tags I copied off other CDMA builds like vivow. We could try using that, although I need to pop in IRC sometime.

let me see if I have it unless I deleted it - then I'll just set it up and compile it again.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
Good, I still have it. Pretty sure I packaged it with all the original and necessary proprietaries of the express.

Here's the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?d5p1ieu6avpidah

it uses either the regular express sense kernel or another kernel like the vivow, I forgot which it was and it doesn't matter. :p
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
So this is 2.3.4? What about an HC port like from the Xoom (that was AOSP HC I think). If not, obviously there is no CM HC, so it's either a straight jump to ICS or a downgrade to GB. If anyone wants to work with me to build ICS I'm game, I'm not too familiar with that, but I'm game, lol.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
If you're going to build from source now, ICS would be the best use of your time and effort. I can't really help, but I wish you good luck.

kaijura, any luck in getting your ROM to boot last night?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jmz:
I'm going to get started seriously with trying to get something going on the kernel front. Well ics kernel.

How I went about testing my last attempt was to build a recovery using the kernel. That would tell me if the thing would even boot. So I am putting all other projects aside to try and get this built.

The only problem I see with using vivo as your template is WiMAX. I would more likely base it off speedy as they share WiMAX, gpu, and CPU. But maybe I'm way off base but that's my thought process.

And my opinion would be that ics would be better to spend time working on vice gb because ics is more tablet friendly than gb.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] drob311:
I have an evo shift a.k.a. speedy... I can compile kernels... My friend rooster85 wants aosp on his view... He's willing to test and help out as well... My gtalk is drob311420... If I can assist at all I would love to.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
Im going to work with cayniarb on an ics kernel. He will add the view to his source and ill build the rom.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
One thing about which to base off, GB or HC, I realize I might not get agreement in this but I think GB is the way to go. It has the basics down and is somewhat obviously a little quicker than the HC counterpart. It feels that most roms that have successful ICS builds no longer go back to the horror that was HC, I mean they've completely ditched it and I agree.

I found the speedy blobs, emmc blocks/config for the init and they're quite similar. Good thing jmztaylor brought it up. Just need a few changes.

Let me see what happens after this, I just want to know if GB works or not regardless of development.

Because with ICS it's going to be a pain to build from source with tons of stuff possibly not working, whereas having somewhere to start from like CM7 is a different story to work with.

There are no wimax based builds on the experimental CM9 commits on git for the msm7x30 devices. Only are the ace, saga and vivo (not vivow) I believe.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
Cayniarb has the files he needs to integrate the view into his ICS source and is working on it now. I agree, if it's easier to use GB to get us to ICS, then let's do it. What can I do to help? PM me or hit the email in my sig to get up with me. I've got time, some know how, and equipment.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] drob311:
I have toastcfh's msm7x30 kernel source downloaded. As soon as I get home I'm gonna see what I can do... The view is very similar to the shift, so hopefully this will compile.

Sent from my PG06100 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Rooster85:
Ready and waiting to test.

Sent from my IceCreamSammich Nexus S 4G
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
cayniarb is already compiling it with that FYI. I'd hit him up if you have questions at #tiamat in irc.freenode.net
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
here's a cm7 compile for express with (what I think) inits set properly for the part.

I just took the the speedy database and re-tailored it for express and changed the emmc and whatever random misc accordingly.

You should probably get the same logcat as I posted above if you try to boot.

http://www.mediafire.com/?6aj31257a3spp8f
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jmz:
Check out bootclasspath in init.rc. it is looking for framework that doesn't exist
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
I can't test this right now bc I'm testing my HC rom. Who's running GB that wants to try?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] drob311:
Cool... Thanks for the info... Im headed to irc right now...

EDIT: just left irc... What a nice guy, answered the couple questions I had... Ive gotta download a couple more sources and merge into my source... Ill keep the thread updated, but it's gonna take a little bit...

Sent from my PG06100 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
Yeah i talked with him for a couple hours. Very knowledgeable with kernels.

How goes the compilation?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Rooster85:
I feel aosp a brewing!

Sent from my IceCreamSammich Nexus S 4G