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[Galaxy Tab General] bcam117:
Ok so basically a good friend just told me he's getting a galaxy tab, the P1000 hopefully. He never had an android phone and isn't too much into tech. On the other had I've been into android for about 2.5 years. Had an s1 and now have an s2. I basically just wanted to ask some general questions about how users find this tablet.

1. How hard is it to flash? Is it basically like the s1/s2? CMW, Odin, pits pdas modems, all that good stuff?

2. How smooth is it generally? We all know its not the most powerful tablet but how does it do on everyday things.

3. Any suggestions for ROMs/Kernels?

4. How well does ICS work on this? Is it worth flashing for someone who won't really know what to do if something goes wrong? Is GB a better option? More stable?

5. Whats the best stable over clock? 1.2, 1.4? Can you over clock the GPU? I remember reading the GPU runs at a higher clock than in the s1. And also that there is more user accessible ram than the s1.

6. Does anyone have an complaints/issues? Things not working, issues with apps scaling, games not working, lag, low ram etc...

Just post anything really. I just want to get somewhat into the galaxy tab scene to help my friend have the best first time android experience possible. Thank you. :)
[Galaxy Tab General] certifiablegeek:
Been using my sprint tab7 since it came out. Rooted for adhoc to unlimited data from phone. Not rom'd, performs like a champ! Like the fact that it's back-pocketable! Only other one that's caught my eye is the tab7plus.
[Galaxy Tab General] bcam117:
Thats good to hear. And I thought it would be good for him since he's always out and stuff. Does Skype work on this?
[Galaxy Tab General] cheatman:
The tab is a perfect choice (compared to xoom, transformer, etc.)

Answers:

1. You flash it just like you flash i9000. As you have described it, odin, recovery etc.

2. Ics runs smoother on my tab than honeycomb on xoom2. Did some tests today. Less lag, more responsive, no ram issues, streaming ok, gta3 plays fine.

3. Overcome, boca and Miui for gingerbread. Spike kangs for ICS.

4. I run ics as daily. I am a business user during the day, so all is functional. Media stuff might be messed up, like tv out or bluetooth headsets. Regular daily stuff all work fine in current builds.

5. I run mine at 800 without any lag on ics. You can overclock up to 1,4 safely. Rest is up to personal choice. About 426MB of user ram. No need to overclock the GPU.

6. All users are happy with the device hardware. Any one app runs smooth. More ram would be ok for extensive multitasking, but what can you do, eh?

Only the tab plus and the upcoming gtab2 can be considered better. Also, the community and hackability factor is very high for this device. We arguably had the first android 4 tablets in the world. Not thanks to samsung, but still. Factor that into the decision as well.

Peace,

C.
[Galaxy Tab General] bcam117:
Thank you very much, great reply. My friend bought it :) Now when he comes back I'll mess around with it and flash ICS (I'll first read up and stuff to make sure I don't brick it for him :p)

It really does seem to be a solid tablet all round.
[Galaxy Tab General] samcortez:
Dont bought the p1010, p1010 ITS A *****.
[Galaxy Tab General] bcam117:
Yeah I realized that, made sure he would get the P1000, which he did. Thanks for the input though. :)
[Galaxy Tab General] cja1972:
Keep it on stock rooms and they can use sky go on it and BBC I player. Ics wont support them.
[Galaxy Tab General] PinkDroyed:
Ive had the 10.1 since day one and I am in love with it for sure. I owned an ipad 2 for awhile and it was crap. I don't pay alot of attention to the other tabs but i think the gtab is pretty snappy and does everything I ask of it. I even got a keyboard and mouse for it to make like a non-lap laptop out of it. Flawless. very easy to root etc. It's been easier than my gs2 actually as far as that. Its a great little unit imho.
[Galaxy Tab General] bcam117:
We won't be in the UK so don't think we're able to use it anyway unfortunately.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrReD:
Treat this firmly with a pinch of salt, but Concept-Phones have a render of the Xperia PLAY 2 that they have been told is indeed real. It was sent over by Jsus, who has created a number of different Xperia concept renders in the past. Our sources have not mentioned anything about a new iteration of the Xperia PLAY, but that’s not to say it’s not in development. Concept-Phones says the handset will come with a 4.3-inch (720 x 1280) display , 1.5GHz dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor and 8.1MP camera with LED flash.

There are a few things about the phone that do not look right to us (if indeed it is real). For example, the transparent strip, seen as part of the Iconic Identity of the new Xperia handsets, would probably be covered by the joypad when closed. Therefore it would serve no purpose in terms of notifications. Also there are four capacitive buttons at the bottom of the handset that would probably not be needed under Android 4.0 ICS. Anyway, have a look at the larger image below and tell us what you think. We say it’s strictly a concept, but you can never say never.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] will8578:
If it is or isnt, looks very smart to me
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psxpetey:
thats what xperia play 1 should have been lol any ideas if the new one will have the things the old play neglected like video out bravia etc only problem is the touchpads id say if they were made like that theyed be even harder to play with Vita nubs would be the SH**
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Erikwithafro:
I hope this doesn't come out...Beyond the camera and the processor, there is nothing new to the phone. They need to add physical joysticks to the device, whether it be Vita-esque nubs, or slide around pads like the 3DS and PSP. I HATE using the touch pads, and I think a lot of people would agree with that. And I know tons of folks want those L2 and R2 buttons. I would hardly see a point to this phone without those upgrades. Sure the processor would be a nice upgrade, but I could certainly care less about the camera. This is just my personal opinion, but I definitely wouldn't buy this as it's hardly a big advancement from the original.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TLRtheory:
I truly do hope they aren't stupid enough to change the resolution and screw up it's hundreds of working games.

What they need to do for Xperia PLAY 2 is keep as much of the original intact as they possibly can, while making enough changes to the core technology so that it's future proofed. That way they wouldn't have undone all the current accomplishments. Honestly the only things *wrong* with the Xperia PLAY are that it has only 400MB of memory, a processor+gpu that are clocked below current standards, and that we could sacrifice a thinner profile for physical analogs..
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ozzmanj1:
Whether its fake or not I think its looks sweet. I would love to have a higher resoltuion but I agree with TLtheory that for compatibility of older Xplay games it would be best focus in core upgrades.

Maybe they can creat a patch file for select games to upscale to fit the 720 screen or maybe just create a way for the device to just auto upscale, granted it would take a hit on the processor..... just some ideas for the grain of salt
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SirRudolph:
Hope this is fake... Just bought my xperia play a week ago.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
Too much focus on Android in the info and not enough Playstation. Does it have L2 and R2 buttons? A better D-pad? Better Touchpads?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logseman:
Fugly doesn't start to describe it, it has nothing of the Human Curvature design which is really cool and it has much of I-wanna-be-an-SGS2... I welcome the specs bumps however, though they won't bring a spanking super high end smartphone it will certainly be a bit more current than the Play's when it came out. I'd like a higher dpi which can match the Neo's. Games are supposed to look crisp.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
It doesn't look anything like an SGS2, it looks cool
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ozzmanj1:
Fisrt thing I thought when I saw it was it looked like a HTC phone with Xperia PLAY gamepad........ seriously though the top looks like the HTC everything...... evo, inspire (Desire HD) etc.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mehdi.moha:
hey mate ;)

copy and paste from xperiablog ...

i've put my comment there , if that is X-play 2 , that is veeeeeeeery ugly ...
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
HTC yeah, but not a SGS2
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logseman:
This design looks bland in comparison with masterpieces like the Arc or the Nokia Communicator (another cool rectangular slider, btw). I mention the SGS2 because the screen size is the same. I could say an HTC phone like the other fellow said. They look all the same, these days. As long as people keep obsessed with phones as thick as a coin we will keep seeing slab after slab. I hope someone in the Android realm will break away from that craze and bring us something with a nice design irrespective of whether you can tell it apart from a piece of paper while looking sideways.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sufy1000:
Same here. It looks exactly like a HTC product cause of the squarish design.

Sony would never come up with that.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogue Leader:
I read a recent article that DID say HTC would be the first 3rd party to get the Playstation certification on some of their phones.

Yet another thing that was promised last year but never happened.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
It looks so horrible i'm not quite sure how to convey it in words. I REALLY hope its fake...

Seriously though, the important part is the analog sticks, we need analog sticks, a volume rocker better designed to do double duty as R2/L2, and an up to date high powered soc/ram etc, that's all I could really ask for.

If my phone has to be 1.6mm thicker to accommodate real analog sticks, I DON'T CARE TAKE MY MONEY.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sufy1000:
Agreed. It does look horrible. Nowhere near a Sony product. It's like someone just made it up in their mind and posted a pic.

It has to be fake !
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogue Leader:
We definitely do NOT need that, being able to turn the volume up and down during a game is a wee bit more important.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
Yeah, the most important thing is dedicated L2 and R2 buttons!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
....press pause...adjust volume...? are you kidding me? not difficult people it works in all the games and emulators i've tried.

these companies are trying to cut costs and that is the most logical way to set it up.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psxpetey:
So nobody thought the.vulume adjust and paddles might be in the same location aka you cant see them in that pic
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
it doesn't look THAT bad i think you're overreacting a bit, the most impsortant things for xperia play 2 are;

Physical Joysticks, Possibly R3 and L3 buttons

Latest CPU/ Dedicated GPU

Better Software, Maybe PS2 games, definitely PSP games

R2, L2

Better Screen, either IPS or ##OLED, (viewing angles are bad with this phone)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XperianceIT:
I think the play only needs dual core better/dedicated GPU, and physical thumbsticks either vita like or PSPgo style and the PLAY would be friggin perfect! The resolution is awesome just the way it is. Dead Space for example looks stunning on the PLAY.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacklebott:
Dual core will probably be old technology soon enough anyway, now that quad core is rolling out. So while we're dreaming, why not say the PLAY2 should have quad?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
id rather krait/ dual a15's over quad a9.....anyday.

not saying we wont get quad eventually anyways, but a15s will be faster in most usage scenarios.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LG_fuad92:
It looks nice! Dang... Still prefer joysticks, not touchpad.

EDIT: r2 and l2 button, a nicer d-pads, real analog. But hope it's fake. I just bought it a month ago! If those features are added. It'll get thicker.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sufy1000:
You forgot Shadowgun that looks sweet on the Xperia Play ! :D
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antEris:
touchpads

I don't hate the touchpads, just wish developers had better tools to implement them. One thing I would do differently If I was designing it is they would be click pads. As in you would be able to click each touchpad in for R3 / L3. Think newer Mac / ultrabook trackpads.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
You mean a couple of them ported, right?

I never understand this complaint, why are you trying to play games while looking at your phone from the side!? :confused:
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subcu1ture:
Wonder what they are announcing? Hopefully the XPERIA VITA ;)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enerp8:
The actual Xperia Play look way better than this alleged XP2
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psxpetey:
Clickpads would be awesome But to all the people who want PSP nubs let me ask you this question arE YOU Retarded? After playing a PSP for 20 mins ure thumb pretty Much Catches fire. Touchpads are def better but vita analog s would be perfect.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Growling Clover:
Agreed, I like the roundish sides when gamepad slid out as it looks more like a console. This looks more like the gamepad is an attachment rather than part of it.

The black gamepad looks awesome tho :-)

brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
I've played on my PSP for hours at a time and never had any problems. Maybe there's something wrong with your thumb.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silvacrest:
i get his complaint, my thumb felt really raw after a few hours with a PSP, which is why i can only hope that a XP2 would have rubberised nubs like the 3ds instead of the hard plastic texture the PSP has
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XperianceIT:
You were doing something wrong then! I have had every gen of the PSP to include the GO and never had an issue!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
Really? The Play we have now hurts my hands more than my PSP ever did
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psxpetey:
thats prolly cause the contoller is so small specially if you have big hands huts like a mother.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Captainfrost:
Has anytime stopped to think this was the original idea for the play but then they made "improvements" I mean do we see touchpads. It would be retarded to take out the touchpads since it makes the play unique
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logseman:
Don't you see the touchpad in the new design? Look below the buttons and it's etched there.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leraeniesh:
Well everyone, lets hope for the best at MWC today :D

Sent from R800x
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neo.bahamut.zero:
I really hope there will be no XPlay successor, since I got the "old" XPlay just a few days ago. :D
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
Well seeing as the xplay has been out for nearly a year now I hope there is one. For people to take this phone seriously and buy/develop it. It needs to be the best or at least high end or it needs to be insanely cheap at launch. Sony probably won't do any of those though seeing as they stay away from the latest chips until a year after there release..... I'm rambling again... Sorry :-(
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neo.bahamut.zero:
Given the proper games optimization + ICS update, XPlay could be viable alternative to high-end phones for a while I think, at least in a gaming department.

It's unfortunate that Android gains performance only through hardware upgrades instead through optimizations.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UndisputedGuy:
I'm similar to you but it's been about a month and a bit for me. The play, when first release was about £400 if I'm not mistaken and the play 2 would likely be similar but better in terms of specification and then this purchase of the play 1 Would basically be a waste...

Unless play 1 owners got £200 off... One can only dream
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neo.bahamut.zero:
In about an hour or two, we'll find out if we got "pwned". :D
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
It's called the "Xperia P" btw guys.

www.bit.ly/Live_PA_fb

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/products/
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UndisputedGuy:
I'm glad it ain't a gaming phone (kinda). I read your post and thought it was. My heart literally raced.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sniper Spr3e:
before people panic this is not a gaming phone it is meant as a movie phone from the sound of it.

it noes not have a gamepad like the play and is not meant to be in competition with the play in any form

the xperia p is actually just another version of the arc really but all sony and no ericsson. if you listen to its specs its set up to have movie playback at its best
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neo.bahamut.zero:
We should be be already looking for plastic "Sony" stickers to replace SE logo on our XPlays, because ICS will likely ditch the SE branding. :)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rafu997:
Awesome news! Can't wait!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sufy1000:
Yeah true :)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flat_steve:
I wrote an article on the Xperia Play 2 on XperiaGamer, you can find it here:

http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/what-would-the-play-2-be-like.html

You can read the article for specs etc, but this is what we put together design wise:
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zerobarat1:
Nice article. The reason the play didn't sell well, I think it was the extra high price that it had when it launched. At least in my country, for the first 6-8 months, after launch, it had a higher price than the galaxy s2 despite it being a single core. Atm the XP is priced around the galaxy s's price.

Even so the gamepad is great at playing retro fighting games and even SFIV soon enough which you can't really play on a touchscreen.

I do kinda mind the fact that the XP is such a bulky phone which must have again contributed to it's smaller audience.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sufy1000:
Yeah it is bulky but that's only because of the gamepad.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subcu1ture:
I actually think the Xperia Play 2 will officially be launched under the PLAYSTATION brand now that they have absorbed Sony Ericsson.

They seem to be marrying the Xperia NXT series and not over complicating things with many different Xperia's that look different and have different functions.

Now I am just waiting for the Sony Tablet U to complement the their weird reasoning for Alphabetizing their latest products.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
I always assumed they gave the Vita it's name, to free up the "PSP" name for future mobile devices.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silvacrest:
those are both good points, since no mention of a play 2 has come up im guessing that they will indeed treat it like a proper gaming device which means it could show up at E3 under the PSP name

or....we are all horribly wrong and there is no play 2 :(
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psxpetey:
There will be a play 2 eventually I would guess next year or the year after
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrROBschiz:
That concept in the OP is gorgeous!

I would buy that in a heartbeat

I really hope we get a play 2!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferno986return:
What I think the Xperia Play needs!

I would say the main weakness to both of the Xperia Play phones (including this mockup) is that they both need better design. From what I have been reading around is that the Xperia Play can do everything any other Android phone can do.

All it has are those controls!

Seriously though all you play with on the Play are games that you finished 10 years ago either via the official PS Pocket emulator or FPSE (along with other emulators such as Gameboid and N64oid) and Android games that have been specially optimised to use the controls. Nothing too original!

What the Play 2 really needs is a purpose, the Play was a good start but not enough to truly get me excited about it. It had outdated components (though I did read about the discussion on XDA about processor cores) and was an average handset (according to good old Blunty3000).

So please Sony make this phone cause a huge splash; use nVIDIA's Tegra 3 instead of the dual-core Snapdragon, have a couple of GB's of RAM and maintain the original's aspect ratio!

Then maybe then with the right components we may see PS2 emulation, although I don't think anyone has seen L2 and R2 shoulder buttons outside of the main PlayStation line.

I actually don't mind the Vita design, but I do think it would look smarter without the capacitive buttons, though with Sony's UI (not sure what it's called but I mean Sony's counterpart to Sense and TouchWiz) that may not be easy.

My 2 cents (or pence).
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
Your right, but that CPU will never happen, I think Sony have this partnership with a chip company so they wont use nvidia for one of there phones, but seeing as it's Sony now who use nvidia in the PS3 maybe something could be worked out.

What's annoying is Sony take a year to optimize the current software to the current hardware meaning by time Sony start on, say, the Xperia U, the next gen CPU is out with more cores... Which isn't a bad thing because Sony are the only ones that squeeze every inch of performance out of an old chipset. But it is bad for potential customers who see the best android phones and want the best so instead of picking the U they will go with HTC that has 4 cores instead of 2

The only way Xperia 2 could be successful would be the first and only mobile device to play PS2 games. They could market it as the PlayStation 2 Certified Device instead of just PlayStation that would seperate the certification and it would need the BEST CPU that Sony could cook up.....

But, none of that will ever happen :-(

Btw why don't Sony come up with interchangeable slots for the back of the phone like games controller for games, keyboard for typing, multimedia one for videos.music?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogue Leader:
The Sony Tablet S has a NVIDIA Tegra 2, so I am pretty sure they don't have any exclusive processor agreement.

That sounds like a good idea, but will end up more niche that even this phone is. Lets face it every singe smartphone user does not need a game controller. There are smartphones out there (Motorola Droid) that have a keyboard which is infinitely more useful. So why would someone buy a phone that you would have to carry a separate accessory that you pay extra for? It won't happen.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
But wouldn't it solve the problem you just mentioned, people buy seperate phones for different purposes

Some want a keyboard phone, some want a game phone, some want both.. Like me :) it wouldn't cost a lot to have them just like an accessory really.

And I forgot that the tablets have tegra, thanks for clearing that up ;-)