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[Android Apps and Games] faku1810:
I see, i'll try to use that same app to check if there's any significant change on RAM status on my phone, because the stock "ram manager" is not very informative in this phone. As far as the heating goes, i'm not experiencing it right now, even though i had perm recognition on all the time. I'm on stock 4.1.2 rooted; no custom kernel or anything like that. I assume yours is the same? I'm no expert but i think heating is closely related to processor work and I always have the Power Saving Mode enabled (which seems to limit the cpu) so that could explain the difference. Not quite sure yet though.

Are you talking about the vibration when it starts recording? There's a setting in Utter that allows you to enable/disable the Vibration before Speech if that's the case, no need for a third-party app.

If there's any other instance where Utter vibrates, i'd appreciate you told me what it is, because I've disabled vibration overall in my phone as i don't need it.

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EDIT : On a side note, while i'm testing the perm recognition to see if it gets hot or anything, I'm not getting any of that, but instead, I get the "beep" sound of recording every now and then but utter won't say anything before it.. as if I had pressed the shortcut instead of waking it up (I've set "." as custom intro so it won't say anything when i press the shortcut); but even if i try to issue a command when i hear the beep, it won't do anything.. It doesn't seem to happen in a fixed period of time either, so I'd discard the possibility of it being utter sending a "ping" to Google's servers; but correct me if i'm wrong.

I should also note it only happens while the screen is off, and i have the phone on a car-holder, that it's on my desk until i get a car, lol; I was thinking it could be some ambient noise triggering it, but whenever I say the wake up phrase, it turns on the screen and asks "Can I help you?" so it shouldn't be an accidental wake-up either.

It's driving me crazy here!
[Android Apps and Games] regor99:
Deactivating the Utter vibration

Utter can vibrate after completion of the command by the user and before computing the action.

This vibrate is not the one at the prompt sentence which can be disabled in settings.

I have PM the developer on the subject and he has pointed out that he has had

some Motorola users experiencing this and is going to develop a fix for the next release.

The vibration was getting on my nerves and making my hand tingle. It was also a battery hog.

Just putting it on the forum as a 'tip'.
[Android Apps and Games] schuylkillparanormal:
Just a quick question wouldn't tasker and auto voice serve as a work around for permanent recognition for the time being?
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Temperature & RAM using Permanent Recognition

faku1810, docinthebox and Tower1972,

I enabled permanent recognition on my Galaxy S3 (stock, not rooted) and using my phone as normal, receiving phone calls, receiving texts and notifications enabled therefore utilizing text to speech engines, etc.

Enabled at 2:30p.m.

Battery Temp: 81 degrees

Mem: 890mb free

Utter: 21 mb

BEFORE I Disabled at 4:00p.m.

Battery Temp: 95 degrees

Mem: 787

Utter: 109 mb

Results:

Temp increase: 14 degrees

Memory Increase: 103 mb

Utter: 88 mb increase

So that everyone knows: Utter is "tied" to other Android processes such as: Google Search, TTS and one or two others and so the memory increase of 88 mb in my test is a "cumulative" of Utter and "these" processes.

***To see for yourself enable Permanent Recognition, then go into manage apps, click on Utter and you will see the other processes being used there AND their memory allocation(s).

I don't see anything alarming in these stats..certainly not 117 degrees which leads me to believe there are other processes alive on your phone(s) that created the temperature spike...as per your previous post that it doesn't seem to be acting up now.

So..Yes..permanent recognition=(Utter + associated processes) that utilizes more CPU raising the Temperature and RAM, but only moderately.

Keep in mind that other apps on your phone may also be utilizing some of these processes listed above as well as asking for more CPU allocation effectively raising that temperature above 100 degrees.

Hope this helps.

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Possibly, but that takes us off track and not relevant to the thread. Not everyone has the skills to link those together.

For power users, those that root their devices (as I was previously for testing) that could be an option.

The main purpose of this thread for all intents and purposes is for the development of Utter! in its native form for the masses or let's say "average user".

Bells and whistles can be added, but that's more user preference than anything.
[Android Apps and Games] faku1810:
Thanks for the testing GLDavis, I don't have numbers to go by, but I'm positive that my phone's temperature hasn't raised to alarming levels.. but then again, my phone has been in deep sleep most of the time. I was going to say that my ram was normal because it's same as usual, but now it kinda worries me the fact that I have 750 (aprox) of memory RAM used instead of free... I never realized i had so many services running, but Utter gets up to 40-50 mb aprox. so it's not so bad.

Do you have any idea of why it keeps "beeping" on me for no reason? (I mean the behaviour i mentioned in my last post)
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
I think I saw a response from Ben...where he is aware of this issue and if not mistaken on the list to fix for the next update.

I also saw that a reboot should stop that beeping...at least temporarily.

Cross our fingers and also I wanted to say....Thanks for your help, very much appreciated.

If you look at my most recent posts I'm having to get down to the brass tacks on issues. We have a user guide, a tutorial, a troubleshooting guide and a forum for users coming on board. Directing them to those areas is where at least, I need to send them. Utter! is becoming popular and keeping up with the core functions of this app is key to its success.

Nuff said.

Have a great evening.
[Android Apps and Games] docinthebox:
Thanks for the testing GL. I've had my phone plugged into the wall AC at my desk, screen off, for the past 3 hours. Battery started at 71%. With permanent recognition running. After 2 1/2 hours battery was at 79%. I disabled permanent recognition about 20 minutes ago, still plugged in to wall AC, and now the battery is at 96%. I can only conclude that permanent recognition is draining power through it's ongoing process?

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Oh, forgot. Temperature started at 88 degrees F and ended at 88.4 degrees F. The heating up only occurs on car AC. Weird.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
That is absolutely correct. Permanent recognition has to keep "some" CPU processes alive in order for it hear you and process the command. The Moto X for instance has to also reach out to the Google Servers, BUT...probably has a "hardware" setup as well to minimize battery consumption.

What Ben has done is pretty remarkable and even though not great great battery life...it's not that bad either.

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You know Apple phones have caught fire and caused damage...why, mostly 3rd party chargers which work, but can create hazards. Are you using an approved charger for the phone or a cheapy that works. Could be part of the problem.
[Android Apps and Games] docinthebox:
You are correct GL. I have a cheap charger cord for the car and the official Samsung GSIII charging cord at my desk. Guess I'll cough up the bucks for a genuine Samsung car charger *cough, cough*.

I did write the Tasker intents Ben outlined much earlier in this thread to toggle the permanent recognition with power change to only be on when connected to AC, so hopefully Utter! will not be a battery killer for me.
[Android Apps and Games] faku1810:
You should be careful with generic chargers and such, as GLDavis stated, they can be the cause for overheating in the phones and even drive you to worse case scenarios. I remember reading in Sammobile an article about an exploding SGSIII because of a non-official battery (according to Samsung's Technical report on the matter)

Don't mean to scare you or anything, but it's best to be aware that such occurrences, even if not very common, are still possible.
[Android Apps and Games] fredsky2:
thanks for the reply faku1810, but you see, my suggestions were aimed for 'polishness' and making the app 'smarter' in a way because, although your suggestions does the job for the things ive said, they are kinda of workarounds

clearing things up:

oh no, on 1) i meant as one could add another alias for the command, not replacing; sorry if it was a bit confusing

maybe the 2nd item could be solved by an 'advanced mode' that would be enabled when root access is detected or something? (or maybe alike how we enable developers options, idk) That way all the good stuff Ben could be holding back to add because of the ghost of bad ratings could be fearlessly been released. Also, maybe my eagerness for more commands is because i dont have tasker yet (and prolly wont until playstore goes paypal)

for 3) thats a good point indeed, but idk, imho its just too much of a pain; i think just a 'test command' button at the end would be more than enough. (i mean, you go allllll the way to the activity you want, then you screw up and bam! you have to do it all over again. i actually do a liittle work around for that, saying yes or red or blue for everything she queries me, then ill just edit the command). But that really is just me, not such a big deal

about 4) hah i must'd skipped that one, shame on me; just looked it up and its pretty good, thanks for the tip!

on 5), it gets the job done, but its kinda workaround, i think the things ive said would be pretty neat. Didnt know about it being google's fault, maybe ill go back to ivona, or just wait for Ben's, yeah it should be pretty neat!

nevertheless, just some suggestions i thought would do good; the app is allready working awesomely, and as you pointed out some crazy stuff's comming too
[Android Apps and Games] faku1810:
I understand, they are indeed more like workarounds than actions directly aimed at getting the job done, however let me clarify a couple of things, just in case :p

I think i understood what you meant here, but correct me if i'm wrong; you want utter to do the same thing with different commands, for example "open APP NAME" being the same as "Start APP NAME" or "Launch APP NAME" .. the suggestion i made regarding "Replace words" does exactly this, Utter will understand every occurence of Start, as Open, and STILL understand "Open app" if you want to use it, so it's not really a replacement..

Also I've just tried using one of my "replacements" on a tweet, and it didn't replace it, so I think it's safe to assume the app only applies replacements when hearing commands.. Hope that made sense.

Yeah, I know what you mean, it's happened to me too; and i ended up doing the same "command, if it works say bla bla, if not say bla bla -> edit". So your suggestion about a "test command" after typing it is actually very good.

If you mean the "." response, then it's not kinda workaround... IT IS a workaround lol; i'm not even sure if Ben planned it to work that way, i was almost sure Utter would reply "dot" or "period", but maybe it's because of the TTS Engine (I use Samsung's).

And that brings me to the last clarification.. When I meant that it was Google's fault, i was talking about the Voice Recognition Engine; as far as I know, Ivona only includes a Text To Speech Engine. So, the "fix" I mentioned would be going to Settings -> Language and Input -> Voice Recognition -> Choose anything that's not Google, if there's any option available.

So basically, what I understood from Ben's post (and I do hope I'm right) is that he's working on an utter's Voice Recognition engine, at least that's what i would guess either number 3) or 4) below refers to.

-------------------------------- Ben's post ----------------------

Here's what's next on my return:

1) German & Italian translation

2) Wolfram Alpha testing - Yes, finally I have a contract agreed with them after resolving their attribution requirements.

3) Testing of the offline engine I've been working on that isn't Google related.

4) Premium Voice Engine testing. Finally some in-app purchases to start making a few dollars!
[Android Apps and Games] boh113:
Hi GlDavis

The XDA app sucks to search from and I don't have a desktop at the moment, hence why it's been so long since I've been on here. Tried sifting through pages but the thread is getting a bit long to do it.

So just to be clear driving mode enables permanent recognition and enables notifications?

As it, only, seems to enable permanent recognition on my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Yes it is supposed to do both
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Have you enabled Notifications before and enabled Utter in the accessibility section on your phone?

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[Android Apps and Games] boh113:
Hi GLDavis,

Yes I have used notifications without issue yes utter is enabled in accessibility and device admin :)

Its not a big deal as the notification seems to have issues when running music over bluetooth, which is when I need these functions the most (driving in the car).

Love Utter and looking forward to its progression

Finally got my pc back online :) smalll win and easier xda searching for me
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
I keep mine on all the time and have had no issues at all, even with Music.

If you have enabled notifications, then tell Utter "disable notifications"

Go to the accessibility section on the phone and turn off for Utter.

Tell Utter to enable Notifications, it should then tell you to enable in accessibility.

Turn on Utter in accessibility

Tell Utter again to enable notifications...it should tell you something like "i will read your notifications to you"

Tell Utter to disable notifications

Then try "enable driving mode" and see if enables along with permanent recognition.

Good Luck!!
[Android Apps and Games] boh113:
Thanks GLDavis,

Your fast and informative responses have been fantastic, have got it all working now. I ended up just reinstalling utter.

I think from now on might try that before cluttering up this thread anymore.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Cool and Thank youl!! For future reference, you could also clear cache and data in application manager and that seems to work too.

Make it a Great Day!
[Android Apps and Games] schuylkillparanormal:
I though of a useful suggestion after permanent recognition is fixed why not add a feature were you can say find my phone and the phone sets off an alarm.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Good morning!!!

Good suggestion as long as the phone is close enough to hear the command.

Other alternatives such as Lookout or Android Lost allow you to send a "siren" alarm to a phone from a PC or another phone and in most cases specify a timeout of 10 seconds for example or longer.
[Android Apps and Games] schuylkillparanormal:
Right I have device manager but my phone blends with everything and i or the kid grabs it when i lay it down on the table then I'm forced to play find daddy's phone. I always have my ringer off so it like i call it.
[Android Apps and Games] Kerns_JW:
Or you may accidentally leave it in a cab with the windows down and call out to it
[Android Apps and Games] schuylkillparanormal:
Only if you own a droid ultra maybe moto x if its part of touch less controls.
[Android Apps and Games] boldvishal:
Utter on bluetooth button press

Hi All,

I am facing a peculiar problem. I have 2 BT headsets. A Samsung WEP one and a Nokia 110. When I press the BT button on my Samsung headset, I am able to invoke the Utter. However, the same thing does not work with the Nokia. I do not get any option/default command when I press the button for Nokia BT headset. It works properly otherwise(recieve/reject call)

I have tried clearing the BT data in all apps and few other suggestions as well but the Nokia one just doesn't invoke Utter.

What might be missing in my Nokia headset?

Please suggest.

Thanks

Vishal
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
When you press the headset button on your Nokia.. What Is the default action that it performs on your phone.

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[Android Apps and Games] boldvishal:
Nothing, there is just a beep sound in the headset.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
So.....can you get the headset to connect to anything on your phone? I just looked at the specs...Nokia BH-110.

By pressing your headset button while connected to your phone...does it even invoke say...dialing a number for you?

From the user guide:

Use voice dialing

When no call is in progress, press and hold

for 2 seconds, and follow the instructions

in the user guide of your phone.

Are you holding the button down for 2 seconds?
[Android Apps and Games] docinthebox:
Stupid Question

This is probably a stupid question:

What does "application integration" mean in Utter!? I see a list of apps I have installed in the settings, and I see that they are integrated, but what does that mean? I fully understand how Tasker is integrated and have used this function for quite a few things. But for an app like Waze, for instance, what does Utter! integration do?

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
If you've used other voice apps...ever notice they don't give you ability to select a "specific" app to "integrate" with? More, it just selects an app it wants to work with and sets it as default.

Utter! provides you the ability to select the app that you want to use..that's it! Simple, but very effective concept.
[Android Apps and Games] docinthebox:
Ok, I think I've got it. So in the example of Waze, if I ask Utter! to "navigate to home" it will use Waze as the navigation app, not Google Navigation or, heaven forbid, VZ Navigator. Is this correct? And is this the extent of integration with most apps? I was just so amazed at the level of Tasker integration that I wanted that same intimate Utter! control over other apps :D
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Pretty much it...AS long as Ben has included it in his list of apps to work with. (Not to confuse you, Ben needs the developer of an app...like Waze) to add a few lines of code so that the two can communicate.

Click here for the Latest Test Build on the Play Store!!!
[Android Apps and Games] pofadda:
Printing, text-selection commands?

Is there a way to print a document or a selection, via Google Cloud Print or suchlike? Even if it's a case of 'print Wedding.doc' from a file manager, although it would be v. helpful if a para could be selected and printed straight from the clipboard!

How about a set of commands to select from a cursor, say, 'select this word/next five words/paragraph/to end of paragraph/page/document? Selection of text on phones and tabs is needlessly fiddly and voice commands would be really great! Move cursor along lines would be neat, too.

At this rate, why not just rip off and rewrite Dragon Naturally Speaking? It had - when I last saw it - full screen controls. I have a 1998(?) version somewhere I could donate...
[Android Apps and Games] mcp2009:
This seems to happen on my HTC One I just got. Doesn't seem to happen to my Note 2. It doesn't seem to happen all the time after locking and unlocking but I do notice that I have to go and turn it back on after using it a few times.
[Android Apps and Games] boldvishal:
It did not work initially. Later, I did a factory reset of the headset and also reinstalled Utter. It has started working now. Probably the headset reset did the job.

Thanks a lot for your help.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Welcome!

Make it a great rest of the day!
[Android Apps and Games] turilo:
Amazing app so far!
[Android Apps and Games] Kusaiashi:
Utter Voice Responses

I am wondering if there is a way to make a custom command and have Utter! read something to me like the Weather or time. For example: When I wake up in the morning I want to say, "Good morning Utter," and have Utter! respond to me by saying "Good morning" and then telling me the time and weather without further prompting. It seems to me that so far I am only allowed to create custom commands that open an app or something. Please let me know if this is possible, and if it is, how to do it.

I am excited about the possibilities that lie within the development of this app, and I fully support it and am stoked to be part of the beta experience. Every time I think of a way I want to speak to my phone to have it open an app, I create a new command. It's gonna be a lot of work, but I think that soon I'll be able to get Utter! to respond to most of my natural speech commands without me having to recall specific phrases.
[Android Apps and Games] faku1810:
If you can get Tasker, it helps a lot in making Utter experience more powerful, even more now that Ben made it possible to send unknown commands to tasker, so you can set tasks that will be triggered by certain words, killing the need to recall specific phrases.

To give you an example, i have a text file with info about my classes and a task that will read out loud the info for the current day from that file. Then I use utter receiver so that whenever it detects "classes" in any unknown command, it will trigger my task.

That's the best way to get what you want. Otherwise you'd have to create an alias "Good morning Utter" for "What's the weather like?" using the Replace Words option in Customization

This won't tell you the time, though. Maybe when chained commands are a reality it could be made without relying in tasker (but it's a very powerful app if you can have it)

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300
[Android Apps and Games] dakoellis:
Wave-to-Wake Configuration Demos

I just started using this app and I Love it! I just want to know if there's anywhere that shows the differences between the different wave-to-wake configurations. I saw the wave to wake in the video that shows 2 waves over the sensor, but it doesn't work for me very well. is there anywhere that shows what the other ones are? I saw someone said that 3 is a small circle but that didnt work for me either.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Hello,

Wave to wake has been hit and miss since the beginning. Some devices great, others not. I never got wave to wake to work for me either.
[Android Apps and Games] faku1810:
After reading about the linked apps i realized I've never really tested how it worked, so for starters i wanted to try with Facebook and twitter. Facebook works well enough, but even though I've replaced "yes" with "si" (spanish), it will keep asking me to repeat what i said until i give up and say yes so it can post (same with tweets).

Also, it seems the way Utter tweets is not compatible with Tweetcaster (which i use), or even with the browser (except for proofreading) and will crash whenever you choose not to proofread it. I'm guessing this happens because i don't have the official client installed but it would be nice if it could work at least with the browser (i use Dolphin if that makes a difference).

Isn't there a way for utter to check whether the required apps are installed and warn the user about it if they're not? In this case, user can tweet as long as he chooses to proofread the tweet, so if utter warns me about it after checking i don't have the twitter app i would be aware and be able to post.

Also, lately I'm getting too many Ambient noise errors, they wouldn't be a problem if Ben could merge that bit of code with the Could you say that again please. Then user wouldn't need to tap/wake up and repeat the command every time, lol

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300