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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Its probably people like you playing MW3 off of your damn cell phone that take 8 shots from a G36C before dying, then you see the kill cam and their lag is so bad and MW3 lag compensation sucks so much that it gives the cell phone ping the advantage.

I hate you for that and I hate you for using 100gb of cell data in a month.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
lollllll!! :D that made my day...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
yes. this. and other reasons. please.

I wish this myth would get dealt with.

Sprint, if they cared/wanted to, could Very Easily see that you/we/me are tethering. It's called packet sniffing, and any TCP/IP frame header will show without doubt that you are tethered.

I'll quote myself from an earlier post.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] raqball:
This thread is to funny... Wonder what the OP will do when Sprint boots him? Can you imagine the bill from VZW or AT& T with that kind of usage?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
He will do what he should have to begin with pay 50 for Cox and get 20 Meg with alot better ping and cry about his Bill on t mobile
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
LOL! this day keeps getting better, im on pg 12 and keep cracking up :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sergioperalta81:
well lets just say for the sake of argument your pirating cause it is very possible to download torrents on your phone... one small none hd movie is 700mb close to a gig and they go up to 4g+ for hd movies not including actual games if he has a modded console...and even with good 3g it is very possible ....so on those terms he isn't violating any terms through sprint.... breaking the law through pirating yes violating sprint usage policy no..there for in my opinion i don't think he should have gotten that letter...cause u can do that all on your phone stock none rooted....that's just a scenario for you guys making it sound like an impossible feet ....me personally i could never pull that off if im not on wifi i usually don't use much data cause i get crap service were im at .....sooo sprint was kind enough to send me an antenna...(get one if your constantly roaming) and its free or atleast it was for me....and as far as him screwing us using up all the band with...im sorry if i could use the crap out off my 4g or 3g i would with out losing an ounce of sleep if i wanted to have my usage capped i would have went to any other carrier...once again just my opinion sorry if i offend anyone
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MasterColdSoul:
I see both sides, just be glad you don't get back billed for all your months of internet use which I had happen to me with Cingular / ATT (right after they bought Cingular) and got a 7K dollar bill. I told them to go suck lemons, and wouldn't get a ATT anything even if you paid me.

I contacted the BBB and a number of other agencies and ATT refused to work with me even after agreeing I was being billed extra every month (for which I thought was tethering was part of) with the exception of saying they would give me the 3 months back fees on that but I still owed them 7K. Yeah right, like I would pay them anything after that.

Does anyone really, really think it costs sprint even 50% of someones cellphone bill to provide them the internet (minus tower upkeep costs which are not associated with just internet usage they go along with voice as well)? Nope I doubt it, and I doubt any cellphone or internet company pays even close to that. It's not like we can say alright I want just internet on my phone since I never use voice (like me I use maybe 10 minutes of voice a month) and I can't even say just charge me voice by the minute at a buck a minute and give me unlimited data.

So if every cellphone company doesn't want to provide varied options so people can pay for what they want and get what they pay for why should we cry about breaking TOS? Not going to happen at least for me until I can walk in and say I only want internet, I want true unlimited internet with the ability to tether and I will pay more than I pay now because thats what I want.

It's pretty simple most people rarely use both heavy amount of data and voice and by billing you for both data and voice they get to stick there hand in your pocket 2 times instead of just once a month, even though it's exactly the same service (voice is turned into data, everything is turned into data from a phone that leaves). So they stick it to us, and we stick it to them. Hate the game not the player as people say.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] YoungAceAtlanta:
after reading 4 pages of this. im already laffing my ass off..

1. Regardless of how any of you think you can beat the system 100GB is waay over limit for a mobile provider. and it states in the contract that you can't abuse their internet

2. WTF ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE TO BURN 100GB A MONTH? You say your never home, but your playing mw3 and watching movies? Where at? the park? your school? do you just walk 50miles and watch movies as you walk? and even if you did that your phone will die after the first two movies if your using 4G and streaming netflix

3. If your paying $200 a month why dont you just get a real internet provider with WiFi speeds above 3G/4G combine? hell you can get wal-mart magic-jack internet for $20 a month!

This is just abusing the network.. anyone going over 10gbs should consider getting a real home internet provider or stoping at starbucks or mcds and use internet.

Im still shock at how you manage to get 100GB out of sprint. I probly use that every month at home since im sending and downloading 100mb-3.5gbs a day of files and projects for my job. But those services are built for that.. Sprint isn't

Like i said before regardless of how many of you try to beat the system this is abusive..sure Sprint might not stay unlimited forever.. but till then lets not give them a reason to push that date closer than it already is
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
you can read this strait from sprint TOS and then tell me if you can download anything legal or not ? by the way anyone technically downloading any file from xda is in violation of sprint TOS

Examples of prohibited data uses: Sprint data services are provided solely for purposes of web surfing, sending and receiving email, photographs and other similar messaging activities, and the non-continuous streaming of videos, downloading of files or on line gaming. Our data services may not be used: (i) to generate excessive amounts of Internet traffic through the continuous, unattended streaming, downloading or uploading of videos or other files or to operate hosting services including, but not limited to, web or gaming hosting; (ii) to maintain continuous active network connections to the Internet such as through a web camera or machine-to-machine connections that do not involve active participation by a person; (iii) to disrupt email use by others using automated or manual routines, including, but not limited to "auto-responders" or cancel bots or other similar routines; (iv) to transmit or facilitate any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, telemarketing, promotional materials, "junk mail", unsolicited commercial or bulk email, or fax; (v) for activities adversely affecting the ability of other people or systems to use either Sprint’s wireless services or other parties’ Internet-based resources, including, but not limited to, "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user; (vi) for an activity that connects any device to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for the purpose of transmitting wireless data over the network (unless customer is using a plan designated for such usage); or (vi) for any other reason that, in our sole discretion violates our policy of providing service for individual use. Unlimited Use Plans. If you subscribe to rate plans, services or features that are described as unlimited, you should be aware that such "unlimited" plans are subject to these Sprint Prohibited Network Uses.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MasterColdSoul:
So if he was downloading millions of pictures a month would you still complain about him using so much internet?

You people need to get off your high horses, either it's unlimited or it's not. The amount isn't important.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
But how he was getting it breaks his TOS. How can one be upset once you get caught doing something you know you are not supposed to be doing?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
canceled

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1166010

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1289284

here are a couple others that have been canceled for torrents

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Doesnt matter the amount of data ..... 100 gb was excessive but its simple violate TOS and get kicked .... dont ***** about it if you did it yourself ....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jhgti:
A 100 GB picture or it did not happen! People like you is the reason why one day spring won't be unlimited if your usage is true

E4GT=IPhone killer
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] YoungAceAtlanta:
And i bet you people like to argue with cops when they pull you over for speeding right?

Your car manufacture puts 200mph on the dash but you can only drive 25mph in a un-mark zone.

Sprint says unlimited.. But does that mean you go and abuse it without a need too? it would be understandable if his job needed him to download a 1080p video while he waiting for his flight to leave or to edit a project on the go. But just to do it because you can.. stupid
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Let's also get one thing clear here. He wasn't in trouble for netflix. He was in trouble for using the tethering hack and connecting to xbox live/psn and MW3. Just because they can't see what's on your phone anymore doesn't mean they can't see where your ip ended.

Last I checked, you cannot access either XBL or PSN or MW3 multiplayer through your phones browser, or any apps.

He used 100gb via unauthorized tethering and got caught. In no way is that right or promised.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
He said he used Netflix for HD Streaming so im sure he's using that off his console. So yes he also got in trouble for using his wifi hotspot for Netflix.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MasterColdSoul:
And a number of people in this thread have said 100 gig is excessive and where telling him/her how he/she ruined there internet, or did ruin other peoples internet. Again they should complain to sprint who advertises unlimited internet.

Everyone here assumed right off the bat he was doing things to violate TOS. Guess what as a sprint user I used over 100 gigs regularly every month on a unlimited broadband modem, was I ruining anyone's internet? Nope.. because I was only getting 120K a second or so max.

BTW I can almost guarantee my reading comp is plenty high enough to understand these boards. I test at at least 10th percentile in reading comp, it's my best subject. When people lash out at someone and favor a company guess who I am more likely to defend the single person or the multi billion dollar international company that was making money off him?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] K Ron Hubbard:
Blah blah blah... Sprint needs to stop promising unlimited data. Call the better business bureau. This is exactly how the banks f'd up. "Free checking", "no overdraft fees", and "unlimited data". This is a law suit waiting to happen. False advertising is false advertising. I'm shocked that so many of you are taking sprints side. For shame...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Read first. Then post. If you would have read he is breaking his TOS by using wifi tether. He got cought. How again is this a lawsuit waiting to happen?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] YoungAceAtlanta:
So when the judge look at the contract he sign that says in simple words "you can't abuse our data, its primary use for surfing the web, watching videos etc... N not feeding your whole house and ur xbox/ps3. Whats going to be your comeback?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wase4711:
this is one of the reasons why a "disclaimer" usually is at the end of most TV commercials; have you noticed its so small, and goes by so fast, that even Superman couldn't read it..

I bet the "fine print" in their disclaimers has all the things that have been quoted from the TOS numerous times in this thread..

And, as far as false advertising, rarely if EVER, do any governmental agencies side with the consumer, as long as that bull**** disclaimer that flashes by at the speed of light is included in every commercial..

PLUS, what would ALWAYS let Sprint off the hook, is the fact that we all signed the paperwork they shoved in your face when you got this phone; their lawyers will say its not Sprints fault that you didn't bother to read something before signing it...

Good luck with THAT Lawsuit...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
You are the reason why we will lose unlimited data. People just like you
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzycrkr:
For the past 2 or 3 years, Sprint has been ranking at the top for customer service. New report just came out ranking them higher than Verizon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Banks F'ed up over being required to approve bad loans, but that's another debate.

You can clearly tell the difference here between the educated and the entitled.

Unlimited... YES, and clearly states under normal circumstances, be it 20 Mb or 100+ Gigs

Hacking your phone to access unauthorized tethering and using 100+ GB (Probably an XDA record) NO.

How hard is that to understand? :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Yeah but you can't argue that. He could say it was on his phone as netflix is an app.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Reignzone:
Idk... I've seen 124.75 GB used by a customer of mine at our Sprint location in North Texas, back in Dec.

Granted, they aren't XDA users, but **** was legit.

Then again, they were hotlined. ROFL! :rolleyes:

Sent from one impressive piece of technology.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shultz11588:
Tethering is a violation of the legally binding contract we all signed. Whether it's kilobytes or gigabytes does not matter. If you have a problem not being allowed to tether or use your phone as a server, then you shouldn't have signed the contract. It's that simple.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bielinsk:
Rather positive netflix does not stream HD to phones. So your probably looking at 600k bandwidth is all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Yep which is why its obvious he isnt using the app on his phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ty080279:
lol! oh no not another thread like this. it's like a call to all douchebags

to flame the OP...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhxkinMassacre:
Ok I have to ask. How does one pull 100gb in one month? Especially on the abysmal 3g speeds sprint provides... That is crazy! I mean seriously, how is getting a letter after that a surprise? And if he was smart he would use 4g. I'm pretty sure they don't monitor the 4g at all from what I heard :D haha

Btw I'm just assuming it was purely 3g since I'm pretty sure they dont monitor the 4g may be wrong tho.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] akarol:
LOUD NOISES!!!...

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
they do monitor 4g go look at a copy of your bill been doing it for atleast 6 months
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shultz11588:
I think he meant he was streaming Netflix thru the console app via his phone
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] K Ron Hubbard:
No, it's people like you. The only reason sprint still offers an unlimited data plan is because their network is crippled and there's no other way that they can compete. If sprint didn't offer an unlimited data plan I would of never become a sprint customer nor be the owner of this wonderful piece of machinery. I don't believe that anyone would join sprint if it wasn't for this plan. Yes unlimited data plans are going the way of the dodo, but it's because we as consumers have accepted it. Look at what happened when Verizon attempted to charge their customers a proccessing fee for paying their bill, or when Bank of America attempted to charge a monthly fee for owning a debit card. The consumers threw a fit, the press had a field day, and the companies retreated. This guy definitely broke TOS by tethering, but Sprints TOS is a joke since they seem to think that they can change the standard english definition of the word unlimited. I'm not trying to pick on you Korey, you seem like a nice kid, but come on dude! Don't be kicked around by corporate America! If sopa and hipa bother you, but this doesn't... :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
All companies have an abuse clause in their tos ...

Sprint isn't stupid either, they don't just blindly make decisions like this. Their industrial staticians have probably concluded that your bw consumption is costing them more than the bad PR of cutting you off would (99% accurracy with a p=.01)

They can also use regression to determine the probability of all possible future events this decision would bring.

The lesson here...cost sprint slightly less than the bad PR of cutting you off and you should be fine. Bandwidth is never free or unlimited, every byte costs someone money.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bear gri11z:
I....love.......... Lamp....

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kbzareal:
Man I have a.home internet connection of 25mb's monthly, streaming to Ps3, Roku, online gaming, Downloading movies, pc browsing and cellphones connected to it and I use like 105 GB per month. So 100 GB on Sprint network, I would kick you out without a letter.

Sent from Puerto Rico Ñetahhh..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I work for sprint. Or use to. I know how it works. It's cost more money than you and I will ever see in a lifetime to pay for on network data. People who abuse it and use 100gb plus are forcing sprint to up the prices else where. And they are trying to prevent from going away from unlimited as long as possible. But when people use and abuse the data, then leave Sprint after they tell them to stop abusing, that's who hurts them. Not me. I use less than 5gb a month, and pay the full 70 plus tax and surcharges fee.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
OP-go where you will be happy and don't let the door hit you on your ASS. Your hand is currently stuck in the cookie jar but Sprint will set you free......
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bear gri11z:
Lolololololololol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] K Ron Hubbard:
Lulz indeed
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Well I had to move to a new city to go to college. Go Gators ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deedscreen:
NULL & VOID

ten characters
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shultz11588:
Do you guys seriously not understand this? It's not the fact that he used 100GB. It's the fact that they caught him tethering or hosting a server. I'm sure he was under investigation for using all that data, but he would not have received that threatening letter had he played by the rules. In fact sprints hands would have been tied if he was paying for tethering and/or only using the data to browse and download on his phone. He stated that he violated the contract. Sprint is obviously not going to allow that. That's the point of a contract. What is it that you don't understand? How are you going to protest the rules of a contract stated in plain English which you signed? Come on people these rules are for the benefit of everyone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Your article is extremely one sided and omitting critical information. Basically your just using this opportunity to bash Sprint who acted within reason and legally. Also trying to rile up an OWS type protest is really immature.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
That's why people like us who know the whole story will post and clarify it...the OP admitted to violating the TOS by using his device as a primary internet connection to run Xbox Live.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
I did, starting off saying "To be fair..." its awaiting moderation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
I was agreeing with you dude...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
The rolleyes was over the moderation, not you bro. I half expect it not to be published because of the way the article was written.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
Ohh...alright...missed that for a sec
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
ONE WORD

Torrents

Sorry Just Had To :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
I guess he pulled the article, probably because of the comments. I wasn't buying the whole leaked document either, its a generic letter sent electronically.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MasterColdSoul:
Me too.. Why should I double pay (i'm already paying for data which is supposed to be unlimited) for data if i'm not going to get unlimited tethering? So what I pay XX extra a month to get a few days of tethering? No thanks...

I now have internet, but for years and years I had ZERO access to non-dial up, non cellular internet. And you do what you have to do, it's not like I didn't sign up with every company asking for DSL, or Cable but when you are refused service you have to make do.

For a long time I used Sprints wireless broadband card service and I averaged over 100gb a month and this was on 3g.

Look at cricket they had unlimited then stopped, virgin mobile the same thing. It's easy to say from the high horse of someone with a cable modem and unlimited home internet to not use your phone, or wireless connections for your main internet service but some people have ZERO choice if they wish to have a decent internet connection and not a 3K a second dial up connection.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
Nevermind...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
Home internet is not that expensive.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
I think the previous poster was referring to living in an area where there is no home internet available.

I know there are a ton of places where cable internet is unavailable, and the telco lines are too far to even run DSL. Even today, I know someone who lives in Colorado, where there is no wireline coverage period, no cable, no FiOS, nothing. My buddy who lives there had to set up his own wireless relay dish just to get internet service for his area.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shultz11588:
That is a poor excuse to knowingly violate a contract, regardless of your situation we all sign pretty much the same document.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mynaga:
I was at a hotel and was excited to get 4g for the first time in my many years with sprint. So i turned on sprint hotspot since wifi in the hotel was really expensive, my dad and i were on the internet on our separate devices.. probably didnt use very much data at all but since i used the sprint hotspot i could potentially be getting a letter from sprint?

Rooted- Calks 2.8.1 with the hacked hotspot, thought the hacked part meant they wouldnt know ****. maybe someone can clarify for me thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
You could be if they are monitoring your account. You may not. No one can really tell you of you will or not.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MasterColdSoul:
What isn't a poor excuse?

The fact the all corporations utilize the constitutional amendment that was made to give ex-slaves real freedom for economic gain? (Note more court cases have have to the courts to use the amendment X10 for corporations than ex-slaves).

The fact that corporations pay millions of dollars (more than they actually pay in taxes, and this is only the "on the books stuff") to congress in order to get there way.

The fact that you can't get any cellphone from any company without signing such a contract due to T mobile shutting down there non-contract accounts just recently (I know I was one).

Shall I continue?

Thanks for your time.

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And I don't hear sprint complaining when I go months without using voice, or going over a gig of use on there network due to always using my home WIFI for all data with the exception of the off "auto update" while out and about. Does anyone get a check from sprint saying you over paid since you hardly used there service last month? I think not... So quit acting like people are mugging orphans or something.