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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] desaleter:
must be torents :p i use to get 150 Gb in data on DSL but never on any 3G service unless you are literally uploading dozens of uncompressed HD video 24/7
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shultz11588:
Seriously what do you expect sprint to do? If they let everyone tether for free and use such insane amounts of data, people would actually do this and the cost of your unlimited data plan would be so ridiculous you wouldn't even consider signing on. That's why they have these TOS, to prevent people from abusing the unlimited data and ruining it for others who are reasonable and use their devices as intended. Does anyone have a better suggestion as to how sprint should handle these situations?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shultz11588:


If you want a cellphone without a contract get a tracphone lol and if you hate sprint so much why would you sign a contract with them?

Also how is any of this relevant to breaking a contract or unlimited data
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ronnienyc:
Not home most of the time? So you used 100gb of data while walking around?

Sprint does not intend to replace a home network for everyone who wants to tether and download mass amounts of data. Don't be so cheap, and get a home internet connection.

I would certainly kick you off if I were Sprint.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tt281gt:
I couldn't have said it better myself. /thread

Sent from deep below the earth on my E4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] andddlay:
Hmm maybe sprint should put a cap on the unlimited data.. Maybe 90GB? Sounds fair right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bhang:
I went 6GB on tmob(unlimited) and got throttled

w/o tethering but I was downloading roms and torrents like a chance.... All using nuthin but my fone. So if he tethered no case for whining, but he should be able to use whatever within the fone, and then whine all he wants
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Riptide9:
Xbox live is not going to rack up 100gb... I'm an application performance engineer and have helped in testing for companies like NetherRealm (Mortal Kombat) and was actualy suprised at how little data is sent/received. They have a performance threshold of 56k to stay under (basicly just sending key controls and location mapping cords). Latency and packet loss are the factors that contribute to lag or getting bumped off a game, not bandwidth. This 100gb is most likely from downloading Torrents because even Netflix is optimized for streaming across a wan link and would be very difficult to use a 100gb :eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
Some people just are wrapped around the axle over that all important word: "unlimited"

The reality is that terms and conditions always apply. Very pleased with Sprint for being nice and allowing

my phone

to do all the things my phone is

allowed to do under my contract

without being limited! I can read endless email, youtube, facebook, picassa... etc. Unlimited data activity that I am authorized by contract agreement terms. Love it!

They pretty much spell it out that the data is for phone use - not to be shared off to other devices without an additional agreement/terms. They gave you the courtesy of a nice warning letter to ask you to please knock it off. There's really nothing to ***** about. Your parents just pulled into the driveway. The party is over.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzycrkr:
Exactly. Well said.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
And if you want to do that excessively, then pay the $30 tethering fee.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
The tether fee really won't help him as it's capped at 5GB and he used 100GB .....you can get 10+ Mb from Qwest for like 20 .....do it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
He did say he was streaming HQ Netflix videos, which would mean 2.3GB/hour (according to Netflix, anyway). But then that also means he was tethering his phone to something that ask for a HQ Netflix video (such as his XBox), because his phone wouldn't.

Plus, I honestly think that he would have been fine at 100GB *IF* he hadn't been also using his phone to play MW3. Like I said before, he probably got flagged for using 100GB which caused a network tech to physically look at his usage, who then saw that he was gaming.

Not that I think (personally) 100GB is something reasonable to use via your phone...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Netflix adjust its quality based on speed. So that is technically incorrect
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
touche
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mkzbdroid:
the lawyers will laugh and say you cant sue sprint, it is underwritten in the contract that you must go to arbitration instead of actual lawsuit....either way all they have to say is you broke the TOS by modifying your phone and getting pay services for free....either way you lose....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] YoungAceAtlanta:
Its pretty simple.. if the OP wants supply internet for his whole house and others to leech off of he need to get a real internet provider.. maybe he could cut that $200 a month bill in half by doing that..

I could just imagine what he gonna do once he get the boot.. since VZW n other carriers have caps for data n going over them is like a extra $10 per gig..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gmanvbva:
Who the $#@! plays MW3 over 3G???? That latency must be crazy...

Besides console gaming uses a relatively small amount of BW.

And Netflix/Youtube on a phone don't use that much. It's pretty obvious you are tethering AND using high BW things like Desktop/Console HD Netflix, torrents, etc...

FFS man just suck it up and pay $30/month for DSL or cable...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Cubfan99:
I hope they do kick you out, you bandwidth hog.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eltormo:
That is the point many miss,i know 100GB is a ton of data for a phone,but companies are to blame as well i am sick of seeing play the blind and abused sheep that the bad wolf (us users) want to hurt by using more data than we should on something advertised as "" UNLIMITED"" in big words every day in ads.

Unlimited by dictionary means.

Having no restrictions or controls

Having or seeming to have no boundaries; infinite

Without qualification or exception; absolute

When you have a dictionary that clearly explain what that word means,i don't even know how companies are allowed to do this dirty trick.

If you don't want people to use unlimited data don't offer them that,is like American Air lines offering a fixed charge for unlimited travel around the world,but after taking 5 different air planes in one month then let you stuck in one of the destinations until the next month arrive,because the average traveler doesn't take 5 plane trips on a single month.

Companies should be more open and vocal and say what they really want you to do,which is pay the monthly fee and use your service as little as possible so they can win more and steal your money.:)

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I don't think he could reach 40GB using his PS3 for playing online even less 100,the data send and receive on a PS3 for online gaming is not out of this world,so yeah i think he was tethering to his PC,unless he bough some very large PSN games that are like 7GB or more and download several in one month,and i don't even think that way he can use so much data.

On my PC i download more than that in 1 month,but using a normal connection.

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Now now while i think that his BW use was very excessive Sprit sold him the phone as a true unlimited phone without caps,and then tell him they will kick him off.

Sprint screwed up as much as he did.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
Wow. Still the raging over that one word. (unlimited)

It IS unlimited. For the phone itself and the apps on it. Sprint IS honoring their end of the agreement.

It is NOT unlimited when you use your phone as your own private ISP and provide network access to other devices. That is clearly addressed in your service agreement. If you do this without adding on the additional service, you are NOT honoring YOUR end of the agreement.

There are no subtle points to argue, you don't have a leg to stand on in this. It is all clear and laid out in the agreement/TOS. You are getting exactly the service you paid for and if you get caught cheating, they are 100% within rights to terminate you without notice.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I think he lied about using Netflix. It is hard to admit your a porn addict.

But ya, he broke the rules and he did it blatantly. Unlimited only applies to the phone and hotspot has never been a free extra. It was unlimited at one time though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eltormo:
Really on a phone where you can even directly download movies.? I can put more than 20GB of data on my phone in a flash dude,the phone download to your PC as fast as it would download to it self.

So if you decide to download 10 movies in 1 week at 700MB per movie we are talking here about 7GB per week which in a month is 28GB,now i know he extremely abuse the phone,but he doesn't even need to tether to do that,the only limitation he has is storage space on his phone,because the speed he already has it and the capabilities as well.

I know sharing food is bad but is not quite the same analogy as sharing internet with your own devices,which companies like T-mobile even advertised phone as capable and use that as selling point.

He was wrong and i agree with you on that because of the tether,but on your phone you can reach great quantities of data without actual tether.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Who is to say this is even real??? It hasn't been proven this was true and the op could have just been trolling so let the thread die and let these hating lurkers go back to sleep
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
I think this horse has run it's course. Seems it's dead. Let's close this thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] playya:
No doubt this thread should of been dead 20 pages ago! But I guess every now and then we need one of these threads to get the juices flowing in here....LOL

It is what it is people! Enjoy the rest of your day
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
That first one made me laugh for real thanks now this girl knows i'm stalking her :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
lol they could have picked some better tits.

That vein in the middle one scares me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Robbzilla:
Don't wait! Run Forest!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eltormo:
I actually know it is a lie now,yesterday i bough my new phone from spring the epic 4G,i love the phone but the speed are useless,300kb 200kb there is no way in hell that he downloaded 100GB or more in 1 months with such a crappy connection as the ones i have,in fact i will now march to best buy and return this phone since i have 14 days to try it,sprint lie to me with the whole wimax crap and 3g connections are as fast as T mobile edge ones,in fact on the morning my vibrant would reach 5,500 KB,this phone did this morning 500kb,no wonder is really unlimited,at that speed it takes for ever for anything to download.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzycrkr:
Sigh...you do realize speeds vary by location?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Sprint is faster than tmobile edge network
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] distantneighbor:
Well then sprint should either kick out high users or get rid of unlimited as you define it. Go the way of verizon and att. Frankly I don't feel sorry for someone who uses that much data for whatever reason and then uses technicalities to defend themselves when we all know (like the buffet example) it is not what they intended for "unlimited".
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
I explained this to my friend in layman's terms, everyone in the neighborhood pays $30 flat rate for water, its presumed unlimited use. It says in the TOS that its for "typical household use" A guy moves in down the street and turns on his water 24/7, he's trying to fill a pond in his back yard, his constant running is making everyone else loose water pressure and draining the supply. The city sent him a letter to stop using city water in such a way or his water will be disconnected, it was clearly stated in his terms of usage that its for typical household use only. Like the OP, he's throwing a fit because as he understood, his water is unlimited and expected to be able to fill a pond if he so pleases, regardless the supply and the effect it had on the rest of the community.

She was like oooooohhhhh okay! She agreed with me about the situation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Stop making sense.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffrey567:
Next time just use 99. 9 GB u should be fine compared 5GB cap on ATT or Verizon and now T _Mobile
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
This thread is still alive??!!

Look this guy messed up - and many others like him have too. People like that are entitled. They feel they should get everything for nothing. They never cease to amaze me in their lack of intelligence though - you ever heard these people complain about the 'false' advertising of gas prices? How it says $3.57 but it's really not, it's actually $3.58 (well $3.57 9/10) but nobody ever notices the 9 at the end. The clerk at the station will even tell you it only costs $3.57. How about companies that have the most of this, the best of that, longest lasting, best value, the list goes on. Do they really? Not a chance. Do these entitled people go throw a fit about that? Doubtful. That would require them actually taking initiative to do something productive rather than having it handed to them or getting on the internet to post about how they were 'wronged' by a company who explained this to them in the beginning. Is it false advertising? No. Is it deceptive? Absolutely. This is business.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eltormo:
I see a problem with your argument,first you say is assume that is unlimited because is a flat rate.

I did not assume my internet was unlimited because of a flat rate,T mobile and now sprint told me so,in fact Sprint ad is even more clear than T-mobile one,since t-mobile for a year now has been putting the 5GB cap in fine prints in ads,something they did no do when i bough my phone with T-mobile,and something that wasn't present on my contract.

Sprint advertised unlimited data without cap or truly unlimited.

Fair use is a joke why should i use the same amount of water you use.? In fact i could have a usage 3 times as big as your and it doesn't mean i am wasting water filling polls and stuff like that,if you live alone or with your wife you will never ever use the same amount of water i use,since i have 5 kids living with me and my wife.

So my family will.

Drink more water than yours much more.

Use more water for bathing and other bathroom needs.

Doing the laundry is another thing that will consume a ton of water more in my house than in yours,kids change cloths all the time,school cloths and all that stuff.

So you see this is the same reason why T-mobile or spint can't spec me to use my phone as you do,because you may be a facebook lover (example) but i am a data hug,i will stream movies constantly,video chat and all those things that same company use to trick me to sell me the phone.

In fact some phones had been even advertise as hot spot phones,when they sell them to you,and even say you can connect up to 5 things while the unlimited word flash on screen.

Companies are not as guilt free as they want to appear,if it were for them you would still be paying $2,000 phone bills like with early motorola phones from the late 80 and early 90.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rodbac:
I think the point here, despite Sprint's poor explanation, is that the sheer amount of data the OP used made it obvious he was breaking the TOS. It's not possible to use 100GB in ~30 days otherwise, right?

Data *is* unlimited using your phone as the TOS allow, and Sprint knows roughly what that will look like.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Robbzilla:
All fine & well until you decide that your kids need a water slide that drops into the creek below, and is supplied from the tap. Oh, and the phone's data is only 1 spigot, not a house full of them, and is billed for only 1 person. So that's where the analogy breaks down, but it's also where yours fails utterly.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
It's possible but you're looking at using 3.33333333.... GB per day without interruption.

Now there's the question of this whole 'unlimited' thing. Lets assume Sprint has 20 million subscribers. Only mobile subscribers all with smart phones. Now half of them use 3.33GB per day. In one day - just one day - that amounts to 33 petabytes of information. For a reference Google (the internet itself for the most part) processes around 20 petabytes a day.

Now Sprints servers deal with more than just our mobile data. They are used by the DoD and many others not to mention they contract their equipment out to other carriers. Those compound on top of that hypothetical 33 petabytes. See how astronomical those amounts become? That's just in one day from only half the subscribers and only on Sprints mobile network. No business in their right mind would charge this low of an amount for 'unlimited' data. There's no way you could possibly maintain and upgrade servers. Pay the employees, pay for the energy, pay for the towers, pay for anything and still make money.

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Yes, if your family is larger than mine of course you'll use more water but as stated above if you're only paying for YOUR water - not your entire families - there's an issue if you, 1 person, use as much water as 7 people do.

I previously stated that there are people that seem to feel entitled to everything. I'm all for freedom to do what you want but within reason. That doesn't mean you can just consume and consume like there's no tomorrow with no consideration for the people around you. Data, water, gas, it doesn't matter. So you have 5 kids in an already degrading world helping you on that farm, what happens when everyone starts having 5, 8, 15, 25 kids? Now our water demand is higher than the supply - it's already approaching that tipping point. Now what? Guess that's not a concern of ours right now since we'll all be long dead before our children start killing each other over a stagnant pool of algae and amoeba infested water.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sergioperalta81:
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=TW9NnaB0Rfs

nuff said ...idk when the last time a sprint rep didnt cling to the fact that sprint is unlimited to try and sell a phone and now everyone is talking about abuse ...isnt that y most of us went to sprjnt in the first place its cheap and UNLIMITED i doubt most of us came for quality of service lol...if people are so worried about it last i checked there are three other carriers that willcharge u more and cap your ****......for the sake of bandwith
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
Honestly its usage like that that makes them really rethink their "unlimited" policy. I don't care that they say unlimited, its clearly abuse, and makes keeping "unlimited" that much harder for the rest of us. I agree that its BS that they say unlimited and then its not, but c'mon. That's like going to an all you can eat buffet and never leaving...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
It is unlimited as long as you do it in the tos .... Everyone has a tos .... Cox , at&t , Qwest , etc .... They all have rules against piracy and such .... Most don't bother you until they get a letter from some company saying you are downloading their intellectual property.... But If he wanted to Stream YouTube all day and play order and chaos etc ... He can use all the bandwidth he wants as long as he is not tethering ... Or breaking tos in any way ... You can bet when sprint sees 100+ GB there is a flag on your account and they will look to see if your breaking tos
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] undefined13:
I try to use as much data as possible and the highest I've ever gotten was 40GB... Netflix streaming on 3G is about 1GB per hour, gaming uses next to nothing. You had to have watched like 100 hours of Netflix tethering. Using mobile Netflix uses about half that or less... Of course if they disconnect you its not that bad. All you have to do is call back deactivated your phone a few hours later and you get a new number and an upgrade. Yes its happened to me but it was for excessive roaming. That's what they get for not letting me take my phone back within 14 days...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sergioperalta81:
HEY I JUST GOT A LETTER TOO sprint felt bad cause i get such bad services that there gonna give me a month free lmaoooooo yea right... look guys its kinda hard to feel bad for sprint. if it was such a violation y didn't they stop it ahead of time. in my opinion i don't feel bad in the slightest. **** hes just using the data that all of us with crappy services cant. have you stop to think when was the last time any of you saw a thread that said great services with sprint :)...cause i haven't seen one yet..this guy used a 100g yea ill admit that a **** load but you guys a bashing him with..and all the complaints on sprint service no one made a thread about getting together and bringing the attention to them... why cause its easier to bash on one person in a forum rather than to take the proper steps to bring it to the right people to make this a service worth having..don't get me wrong nether have i but im not the one bashing...sprint let a fellow member out of his contract for data roaming and he didn't even hit a gig monthly but yet you want us to shed a tear for sprint when some guys uses to much data. do the math the amount of money sprint makes on customers with bad services that are lucky to even use 3g let alone never even turning on 4g that we pay for as opposed to the people that have good services is probably pretty good....and i doubt its hurting there pockets in the slightest.. i live in san bernardino so.cal which is probably the most heavily populated area in cali and stretches pretty far and most of us can tell u down here that services is crap unless u start getting close to the L.A area ..and no its not that easy to switch most of us cant afford it...i have horrable service but sprint was kind enough to send me and antenna how nice right WRONG o they'll send u one but if u don't have home internet guess what u can use it so not only do u have to pay for there plan but now you have to go pay for home internet just to get the service through them that your already paying for ..but hey that's far right maybe its in the TOS and i didn't notice it maybe it reads (don't abuse our service cause if we can were gonna try to help you with an antenna woowhoo that you have to have home internet for which if you don't well sucks to be you but hey don't forget you bill is due every 5th) come on guys wtf ever.. why don't one of you explain to me how that is far ...so don't expect me me to feel bad for sprint when a multi billion dollar company makes little or no effort to put up more towers..in areas that need them... and for those of you that are gonna say well sprint is getting LTE..read up on it first LTE is paying sprint billions of dollars over 9 or 10yrs to use LTE with a 2 billion dollar start its all about money with any carrier and if they do put up more towers odds are they probably wont go to the lower populated place.. so anyway sorry if i sound like a stick in the mud but these are just my opinions
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
You have made everyone that read this much more stupid ..... How can lte pay sprint anything ? Wow next wifi is going to pay sprint 10 million to use it ... And Bluetooth just doubled their payment to 20 million .... Lte stands for long term evolution and is a industry standard not a company
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzycrkr:
Wtf? Lol. Somehow I am not surprised you live in San Bernadino aka The Meth Capital Of The World
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
For the love of God...please...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Im surprised you even read all that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
Yeah, I refuse to read that, could be the recipe for the fountain of youth, but I've tapped out. Speaking of bandwidth...If we keep quoting his dissertation we're gonna be in trouble with OUR service providers soon