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[Xperia Play General] FTAiii:
I've had the Vita since 30 dec [Japanese import] and I can tell you that the only device I carry around is my Xperia Play. Sony has gotten so paranoid over copyright infringement that the Vita is compeltely locked down even on purchases I have already made on the Playstation Network. My existing mini's and PS1 games do not transfer / the content manager is a pain to use, I have to reformat video to get it on the device. Yeah, Unchartered is pretty, but my Vita is collecting dust because it is too frustrating to use and too bulky to carry around. In fact, I rushed to get one because I think sony will discontinue the Vita after a failed US and European release.

Why would Sony put out an Android "playstation phone" and then Vita shortly after - they are hedging their bets, If the Vita fails miserably [which it should in this new gaming environment] then I bet we get an XPeria PLay 2 shortly after.

on the other topic, i'm married which means I rarely get laid
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
All interesting points!

I got a vita so when my girlfriend is watching soaps and stuff i get to play proper games on the sofa, portbale consoles will never replace the home console, the experience is totally different, e.g i play fifa on my vita same game more or less as my xbox 360 but on a portable system seems different still brilliant and way better than the xplsy version, i will still play the home console version over vita anytime big screen and surround sound!

vita is great for my purpose, sofa, work, long trips, cant take my 360 or ps3!

my play just didnt give me yhe same satisfaction, apart from the emulators i mentioned in my op.

and fir ppl saying 40 quid is too much, i agree but these are way better quality games then the 3 quid ones on phones.

i think its time for game companys to start releasing double play, triple plays like blu ray movies.

by one game for 40quid, play it on ya home, portable console and ya phone
[Xperia Play General] UndisputedGuy:
Onlive.... Probably better graphics than the vita although it is streamed.
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
its a good point, but onlive has its limits, if we had 4g in this country it would be brill, vita can play triple A titles without a internet connection as its a card the game plays from, plus onlive games arent cheap either
[Xperia Play General] sufy1000:
For me it's buying the games after getting the Vita. Pay £30-40 for a game ?

It's just too damn expensive !
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Problem with Onlive ... need solid internet connection. Many times I'm playing on a plane, or somewhere else that I'm bored and internet isn't an option. I wish it was.
[Xperia Play General] UndisputedGuy:
Yeah, you're right to be honest. Is the vita quite big?, I mean like, I don't suppose it's pocket size?
[Xperia Play General] TLRtheory:
My worry is exactly the opposite. Not sure if I can go back to paying over $10 per game, having to carry around a separate device, not knowing if I wanna deal with a mobile OS that's so much less expansive than Android, having a 20MB wireless data size cap...and not sure about how I'll deal with the game library either. PSP went it's entire life without ever getting certain game types that Xperia PLAY got in under a year.

I'm psyched that I'll have a new toy to play with, but feel like my Xperia PLAY has covered me in too many areas for Vita to take me away from. Just the thought of having something that big in my window for a GPS is just ludicrous, and it's a given that Vita absolutely cannot ever suffice as a phone, so it loses the convenience vote when it boils down to which device will come along with me. Either way, it should be shipping today, so I'll find out sooner or later.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Its not huge, but its not pocket size unless you got some HUGE pockets.
[Xperia Play General] typikal82:
I'm still waiting for this to happen
[Xperia Play General] fma965:
why do i have the feeling the OP only came on here to brag about him having the PS VITA?
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
BINGO!!! Thank you, I am waiting for the exact same thing. Anyone else feeling like the Xperia PLAY was pumped up to be something it flat out isnt turning in to? Dont get me wrong I really do love my Xplay, just disappointed in how its being marketed......
[Xperia Play General] ps3taker:
I tried vita and stay happily with play due to its portability
[Xperia Play General] typikal82:
Mine just came in hours ago. Wish I could take a couple hours break from work to play with it! :( Screen is huge!!
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
Not at all! ive had a xplay since day one, im just frustrated it hasn't lived up to my expectations and the hype, i bought a vita cause im a gamer and the xplay let me down on that front!

im just trying to figure out what the xplay is? phone or games console, i know its both but i dont think it suceeds as either if im honest probably more phone.

the vita is a console doesnt try to be anything else, however like i said in my op, i still think the xplay has room in my collection for emulators

i hope there is an xplay 2, i hope its a console first (like vita) phone second!

i think im gonna sell my xplay and get a another android phone, question i'm asking myself is will i miss anything with xplay, looking at the posts around here it seems xplay is based on all maybes and promises,

my opinion, xplay wont get anything now with the sony buy out and vita being released!
[Xperia Play General] hairdewx:
I wouldn't jump the gun yet on the VITA, it may possibly let you down on the gaming front as well... especially if the Japanese sales numbers are any indication...

I guess we'll see how it goes...
[Xperia Play General] Growling Clover:
Can the Vita also do twitter, Facebook, netflix, lightsabre and fartdroid?

if not, then I think I'll stick to my XPlay.

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[Xperia Play General] hairdewx:
Pretty sure it can do Facebook and Netflix :p
[Xperia Play General] dassub:
Does anyone know if our existing PS3 PSN games will transfer over and work on VITA? I assume the PS3 type ones won't, but what about the PS One games?
[Xperia Play General] speedyink:
Really...all you want to do make light sabre and farting noises? Wow, just wow
[Xperia Play General] typikal82:
I'm assuming it will be like the PSP games, the ones that are compatible will work on Vita.

What I'm waiting for is PS Suite, when you can download a game made for Android on PS Vita and vice-versa.
[Xperia Play General] fma965:
Well you waited this long lol

Hehe I was sorta feeling jealous ;-)
[Xperia Play General] NeostarNeko:
I'm keeping mine cause it's unique, I use it as a tethered modem on my desktop, and just play the odd retro game when I feel like it :D
[Xperia Play General] XperianceIT:
Congrats on getting the Vita, hopefully it wont be a epic fail like the PSPgo was, i fell for that hype, and was upset, then i fell for the Sony S Tablet, once again let down, then got the Xperia Play, not completely let down, its saving grace is its a Android Phone, so i can still use it everyday for its main purpose.
[Xperia Play General] sufy1000:
Oh my god the PS Vita is a flop !

At release on Amazon it was retailing at round £210 and now it's at £197.00 !

It's not doing well is it ? :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0054Q82WI/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

I say again it's a flop.

People with a Xperia Play just stick to it.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Its probably just a sale or Exchange rate adjustment or something. Its still full price on Amazon US. There is NO WAY 2 days after release they are gonna drop the price. Maybe a month or so, but not 2 days.
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
Some people still dont have ICS wtf
[Xperia Play General] TLRtheory:
Now that I have my Vita... I really want to like it, but it doesn't really have enough going for it to make me get that "omfg! Xperia PLAY killer!" feeling...matter of fact, PSP games look horrid on it, most PSP games worth playing are completely incompatible with the Vita and a lot of its current games aren't doing much to show off this screen. I guess I'm sort of looking for whatever gets me a greater feeling than I got when I first saw ShadowGun on Xperia PLAY.
[Xperia Play General] XperianceIT:
I was looking at the Vita today at the store, and saw some games in a box, like the old UMD Games, but in a blue case instead of the semi clear one, i thought the Vita was digital only like the PSPgo, or does it have a disc reader/UMD drive like the PSP 1-3000? Cause if it has the ability to use a drive like the UMD i might get one. I like physically owning my games and movies.
[Xperia Play General] jacklebott:
The vita uses cartridges like the 3ds doesn't it?
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
It uses "cartridges", but they are like little micro SD cards. You can also just download the games.
[Xperia Play General] jacklebott:
Judging by this article, they're more the size of regular SD cards
[Xperia Play General] icet925:
I love the fact that the Xplay can be seen as a phone

and a gaming device secretly.

I agree that it looks juvenile when playing games in public.

That's why I love how this phone hides it, so I can play it when it's the appropriate time.
[Xperia Play General] sufy1000:
Yeah. I can text and call AND play games at the same time with physical buttons. I mean cmon isn't that just awesome !
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
wish I had a vita
[Xperia Play General] sufy1000:
No ! you dont need a Vita right now if you have the Xperia Play
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
Well i have to disagree, but it all depends what ya want.

if your a gamer get the vita, playing fifa on a handheld is awesome and i can assure you the xplay will never be able to do it.

However for casual games stick with the xplay, though causal games on the vita are good and not expensive and in my opinion better quality, check out motorstorm RC vs Reckless Racing 2 around £3 difference but you can tell, trust me i own both!

End of day vita wont ever be able to make calls :) but it doesnt claim to it is a pure games console.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
You do realize FIFA 12 is out on the play and its awesome. Not as good as the vita (obviously the Vita has better controls and graphics on a bigger screen) but the Play version is pretty close.
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
sorry but it doesnt compare!

fifa 12 is awesome on xplay for a mobile casual game but for gameplay depth and graphics the vita version is worth the price in my opinion!

like i say they are totally different! if you want casual xplay version will do, if ya want a in depth game vita hands down!
[Xperia Play General] UndisputedGuy:
pes 12 onlive > vita FIFA

Trollolololol

honestly though, the play isn't just for casual and there are some good quality games for it. for me, the play is more convenient since it fits in my pocket and I don't know, but I don't think I'd carry round extra luggage just for a vita whereas the play can fit in my pocket. To each their own, I guess
[Xperia Play General] GetPatriotized:
I carry my Xperia Play AND my iPad 2 everyday I go to school.

I think I can manage a third device that plays real games. Like c'mon, you can't play a real Call of Duty or Gran Turismo on an Xperia Play.

Modern Combat 2? Real Racing 2? While those are great games I enjoy on my Xperia Play and iPad 2, it really doesn't compare and I can play all the PSP/PSone classics I bought off the PSS. Which is a real plus.
[Xperia Play General] UndisputedGuy:
to each their own....

I just probably wouldn't carry an extra device unless it fitted in my pocket. That being said, the only portable gaming device I remember having is the GBA, maybe things would change if I bought a vita but I doubt it. Also, you take an xperia play and iPad to SCHOOL?!?
[Xperia Play General] benc1213:
Now that I am older a handheld just isn't for me but the Play is perfect because it's a gaming device and a smartphone all in one.
[Xperia Play General] Da22a:
I agree, I had a PSP and a DS Lite, both were traded in after a few months of having my Play.
[Xperia Play General] sufy1000:
Agreed Xperia Play ftw ;)
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
I will admit there are some missing features in the Xplay version of course (as their should be for 5 bucks vs 40), but its not worth the price of admission to the Vita for this one game, not at all. 5 bucks on a phone you have plus over 300 after the game and memory card? Not gonna sell the system. And the Fact of the matter is your statement of the Xplay not being able to handle it is wrong the game runs and plays the same on the Play, just that its missing the analog sticks (and has the pads instead) and is missing some career and management modes, likely to simplify the game for a phone.

Thats not to say the Vita and FIFA on the Vita isn't awesome, but it ain't worth it for one game.
[Xperia Play General] OriginalDoogie:
Having 1 device in your pocket that can carry out many tasks is a real bonus! its a decent phone, music player, book reader, sat nav, Xvid player & games all in 1 pocket. My vote says keep it, but hey I liked my n-gage for much the same reasons.
[Xperia Play General] benc1213:
And the n-gage is nothing compared to the Play as well.
[Xperia Play General] cj360:
Agreeing with the people above me saying they prefer ony having to carry on device for music/phone. Less to forget, or more depending on how you look at it lol. Hoping that the vita release will bring action to the ps store and make sony stay true to that tiny xmb icon on the xplay's gamepad.
[Xperia Play General] bornotty:
Read various tech blog articles and VITA buyers are already regretting buying it. This is an era where some people are ditching their netbook for one device a high-end smartphone where as carrying a second gaming device im not sure. When the vita started selling even I wanted to pickup one looking at the hype but then various sites let me down.

So by end of next year Vita might extinct and Sony finally decides to put PSP(VITA) and Xperia Phone together. Hence "Xperia Play 2" so just wait for Vita sells to go down. And don't flame on me now this is just my opinion, you can not bother replying.
[Xperia Play General] Growling Clover:
I agree, since getting my first smartphone I started using my pc less and less.

I used to love my psp before i sold it but since getting my xplay I don't miss it at all. I'm a gamer and even tho the vita seems like a good bit of kit it just doesn't appeal to me.

I reckon smartphones are the way forward and I'm happier with my xplay than any other handheld console.

Just my opinion tho :-)

brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
[Xperia Play General] excession3105:
OOOOHH, someone else who owned an N-Gage and loved it. I have to agree, the Play does everything I want. No, the graphics and controls won't be a patch on the Vita, but I'm now in my 40's, I don't want the hassle of extra devices when my Play does all that. That said, the PSN needs sorting, and hopefully will be with ICS.
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
The debate of how many gadgets is feasible will continue, i think where we all agree is that everyone is each to their own.

In my OP i asked myself if i would ever play on my Xplay again and the answer is yes. I use it regular for cheap on the go games, reckless 2, angry birds even! I would never use VITA on a public bus for example but i would my Xplay.

I love the Vita and dont regret buying one, only draw back is it hurts my hands unlike the Xplay. I have ordered PS VITA Trigger Grip (google it, its exactly what i hoped the VITA was going to look like and feel)

I agree it doesn't make it portable, but if your already carrying a tablet, phone, etc your gonna have room, but then again that's not what I'm looking for, i just wanna be able to play games (proper games) in the home while my girlfriend has the TV (which is most of the time) or at work on my dinner break.

Again each to their own. Games like Motorstorm RC are the future, i start playing on my PS3, girlfriend wants tv, i pick up VITA and continue playing where i left off, and that's without using Remote Play.
[Xperia Play General] RetroHero:
You believe that they will also offer PSP games like Monster Hunter Freedom Unite for the Xperia Play?

I think PS One Classics will not be successful.

But if they offer PSP games like Monster Hunter FU or FF Crisis Core, i'll definitely buy them on the store.

PS One Classics are not anything new, because you can play them with FPSE.

I really hope, we can play psp games on the xplay.
[Xperia Play General] DrROBschiz:
Guys vita is fantastic....

that being said i find myself still holding onto my play.

Mostly because it can Play emulators, PS1, and Flash Games (Not very well but i have super mario crossover running)

Also... I love playing ROM hacks like the stuff on FFhacktics.com and Romhacking.net.

This is gaming functionality that you will likely not get with the vita..

Now that i have the vita and XPlay combination... It pretty much universally covers all my gaming needs.

I might be getting rid of my Home Consoles entirely!
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
scary, i was thinking getting rid of my 360 and im a microsoft fan boy!

think i'll have to wait till the big fps games come out for vita to see if it really can be a home console replacement :-)
[Xperia Play General] :
Playstation is Nice.. this was the reason why i bought me the xperia play.

Than i saw in german tv a short story about the PSVita and the man who has moderated this says: At the moment It's not worth it to buy the PSVita.

Smartphones are cheaper and a better alternative.

I think its true, in a few months we become lots of quadcore Smartphones. So what the hell you want with a PSP or Vita wich have only a single or dual-core cpu????
[Xperia Play General] TLRtheory:
...and add another to that list ;)

I -still- have my N-Gage QD, actually. If they only knew how far ahead of their time they were.

EDIT: BTW,

Pocket Kingdom: Own the World

> All Handheld Gaming of that Era
[Xperia Play General] blonqe:
cause the vita has quad core cpu and gpu now, not single or dual!

plus its a games console not a phone and it will be supported by all the major game developers
[Xperia Play General] TheCraig:
I bought the Vita, Pretty cool actually, but I will never get rid of my Play unless something else that appeals me as an android device comes along.
[Xperia Play General] neo.bahamut.zero:
I'm pretty sure we won't see the games such as Uncharted or Wipeout on cell phones for a long time, despite the hardware capabilites of modern phones.

And besides, Vita will play all the games 6-7, or even 10 years from now, which cannot be said for current phones.
[Xperia Play General] UndisputedGuy:
But we have onlive!! Lol
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
Hey guys, my new microwave oven has arrived, will I ever use my Xperia Play again?
[Xperia Play General] GetPatriotized:
If Vita will get Onlive in the future,which is quite possible,then Vita is the best way to use Onlive on a handheld.
[Xperia Play General] UndisputedGuy:
But my phone fits in my pocket....

Lol J/k
[Xperia Play General] FK1983:
^This

I can't believe people on here are trying to even compare the Play which isn't good at all tbh (its put me off android phones for life now, looking forward to iphone 5) to the Vita, the Vita is leagues ahead of it for gaming.

And people mentioning Onlive for the Play, it's embarrassing, Onlive won't be around long, its user numbers have fallen loads and they are losing money, says it all!
[Xperia Play General] Mael5trom:
too much freedom eh? well back to the walled garden you go then, no-one will miss you, and good job getting across your point of view in a way certain to piss off many people on this forum, a stylish exit strategy by the discerning fanboy.

the vita and play target different demographics, with varying overlap.

the play is not as good as the vita for gaming, its not a fair comparison, i think everyone on this site should be plainly aware of that.

However, the play will likely be in the "good enough" category for many of its owners, sure.. its mostly just ports of ios games with hw controls before you dig a bit deeper, but maybe thats enough for some, for people who want to get a bit more involved there is emulators, providing 20 years of gamings golden past in a very easy to use package that requires very little knowledge to get going.

original content is likely to be fantastic on the vita, personally i would like to try the new wipeout game, but... i find it hard to believe that the vita could possibly earn its keep next to my play and that i would actually feel like dragging it with me out of the house.. my play has insane battery life, massive amounts of memory and plays thousands of games with good hw controls(not the touchpads), its small and easy to carry, i always have it on me, and its capability is still growing.

In contrast the vita is overpriced, uses proprietary everything, is incredibly limited in capability(at the current time, hacking might open this up hopefully) its large and unwieldly and has expensive games that in all likeliness would not offer the same replay value currently available to me on my play. The vita seems like somthing you would want to take on holidays, as a console replacement, not as a game and go solution you carry everywhere, but thats just my 2c.
[Xperia Play General] jacklebott:
For now, PLAY beats Vita because there are mods and hacks to improve it. As soon as homebrew is easily supported for Vita, I'm probably gonna get it
[Xperia Play General] swordsman74:
I was one of the early adopters of the Play, but it did not live up to my expectations. I was expecting the quality and depth of games that were on my PSP, but that has not happened. Madden 11 on Android is a joke - it does not even come close to Madden on the PSP. Is there even ANY team basketball game on the Play? How about baseball - try comparing MLB The Show from the PSP to the Com2Us baseball game on the Play...

The reason isn't technology - I'm fairly sure the Play can push more polygons than the PSP's 2004 hardware. The issue is the platform, or lack thereof in the case of Android. A developer like EA can set up a team of people to make a game for the PSP and spend millions of dollars on it because they know tens of millions of people have the same exact PSP and it will run the same on every one of them. How many did the Play sell worldwide? A developer can't justify millions of dollars of investment when there aren't enough customers available to make that money back.

You will never see the depth and quality of games on a smartphone that you see on dedicated devices like the PSP and PS Vita until some genius comes up with a way to put a separate gaming platform inside the Android and iOS worlds. My humble non-genius guess is an independent hardware set of buttons that can attach to any phone (slide-out like our Play), and runs a gaming app whose standards don't change every six months and whose developers can be assured that any game written for that gaming app will run the same on any phone...

If Sony was smart, they would have done just that - taken the Play set of buttons and licensed it for cheap to every phone manufacturer so they could add the button options (like a case) to any phone, and then have a Playstation app that acts as a platform which developers can build for.

Just my $.02, and I am loving my Vita so far - can't wait for MLB The Show to arrive this week!
[Xperia Play General] XperianceIT:
Im sure this was mentioned a few posts ago but you guys do realize you cant compare the Vita with the Play. They are not in the same category the Play is a PHONE the Vita is a handheld gaming console. its like trying to compare a PS3 with a garden gnome! The Play is great for what it is designed for a PHONE the Vita is great for what it was designed for dedicated GAMING device not a phone!