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[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
I have a feature request...

Would it be possible to route any command that utter doesn't understand natively to wolfram/Google now? Or at least have the option?

E.g if I ask whether I will need to wear a coat tomorrow, utter wouldn't understand, but Google now would. It would reduce the number of 'sorry I don't understands" right down!

Also a very minor bug - search ebay command searches ebay.com despite having the app installed. If this simply isn't implemented yet, could we atleast have an option to send it to the UK website?
[Android Apps and Games] CarsnGadgets:
Well done Ben! its trending on mine too, do you know how many users Utter has so far? :D
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Utter on Technology Tell

Just a short article giving Utter more exposure.

Link: http://www.technologytell.com/gadgets/107289/dont-have-google-now-maybe-you-should-try-utter/
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Good to know it's global!

Thanks for these - sending unknown commands to Google/Wolfram alpha has been on my list to do for a while, I'll get round to it soon!

I had to use a 'hack' in the video to get the eBay command to work. It's on my list to have another go to try and pass the data to it. And also on my list is to allow the users to choose their default search provider of .com .uk .cz or whatever! I can use this for the eBay search too then...

I best get on with the list!!

It's odd actually, because I've had less emails through than I normally do? I know I don't often look at the trending page of the Play Store, so maybe it's not very popular!? The stats are delayed, so I won't know until tomorrow how many users it's got me, but I don't think it's any more than normal :confused:

WHOOP! It all helps! Are you associated with the site??
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Sorry, missed this post somehow - Thanks for the link - hoping someone is going to send from the States for me, but if not I'll be keeping my eye on that site!
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Hey ben, Latest update has made utter not here me alot.... (dont think i worded that the best so lets try again...)

It seems 1 out of 5 times i try to ask utter anything it just tells me it didnt here anything even tho i clearly said something. :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Oh dear, that's not good!

Have you switched ROM or anything recently? Might be worth reinstalling Google Voice Search, as that error is sent via them. Let me know
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Ok i havent flashed a rom in a week or two, but i will try to reinstall voice search after school and then i will get back with you. :cowboy:
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
A week or two - You're slacking! ;) Cool, let me know!
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
I best get on with the list!! It's odd actually, because I've had less emails through than I normally do? I know I don't often look at the trending page of the Play Store, so maybe it's not very popular!? The stats are delayed, so I won't know until tomorrow how many users it's got me, but I don't think it's any more than normal :confused:WHOOP! It all helps! Are you associated with the site??[/QUOTE]

No, I just found it today. It was published yesterday. I'm gonna watch and see if there are comments so I can help out if necessary.

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I might be able to help out a little for a better pinpoint of the problem. Hadn't thought about it until your post. In a quiet environment it works flawlessly for me. However, I work it more in my car than anywhere else, and I too have noticed it doesn't recognize well unless I speak a little louder. Something tells me it's having trouble with background noise?
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
No, I just found it today. It was published yesterday. I'm gonna watch and see if there are comments so I can help out if necessary.

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I might be able to help out a little for a better pinpoint of the problem. Hadn't thought about it until your post. In a quiet environment it works flawlessly for me. However, I work it more in my car than anywhere else, and I too have noticed it doesn't recognize well unless I speak a little louder. Something tells me it's having trouble with background noise?[/QUOTE]

That is originally what i thought becuase it was the same thing for me in the car... but yesterday i was in my room and i was home by myself so there was no noise; and it happend twice. but that could have also been a coincidence so i will check it multiple times (in a loud and quiet enviornment) and see what happens. If it continues to not work i will reinstall voice search and try again.
[Android Apps and Games] ewingr:
Just curious. Is there any way to have it enter punctuation when entering text, for example, in an email? I don't see proper case, and can't tell it to put in commas, or anything.
[Android Apps and Games] jesusice:
Have you turned off the persistent notification? It seemed that I got more odd errors like that until I enabled the persistent notification again.

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Have you tried saying "comma" or "period" or "exclamation point"? It works for me, I just tried it with an email. The first letter of the first sentence wasn't capitalized but I think that's a 4.2 thing as I've noticed that behavior with auto correct in general since 4.2.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thank you

This worries me about the car and headset mode - without a decent noise cancelling speaker, it's not going to work well....

I have to admit that the capitalisation is my fault - I'm changing the case of the words when analysing the voice data for matches and I need to put it back to how it was - not entirely straight forward though... It's on the list to fix, so you don't all appear ungrammatical! Also, 'full stop' as well as 'period' as suggested by Exteme_One

I'd be interested to know if the persistent icon does change anything - it really shouldn't, but stranger things have happened! And are still happening judging by some of my emails............... :cyclops:
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
OK so just uninstalled and reinstalled voice search and it didn't really improve... I tried multiple time with background noise and it said it couldn't here me about 1out of 11 and same for with no background noise!

I also DO have the persistent notification on so its not that!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Trending is crap :(

Really disappointed, when I saw the app had made that high up on the trending list, I thought I was in for mass downloads - My add revenue is the lowest it's ever been today, so obviously not many people ever look at trending!! Massive downer :mad: gutted... :crying:
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks - does it specifically say 'sorry, but I didn't hear anything'? Or is it another error?
[Android Apps and Games] jesusice:
Wait... There's ads?? I guess I might wanna try turning off ad blocking for a while.. :sheepish:

EDIT: Eight, I've clicked the ad a few times. I hope it goes by clicks and not installation of the advertised app because my advertised app is "not available on my carrier".
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
It says "sorry but I didn't here anything"
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Ha! Maybe you could let them slip through with utter! :D

hmmm.... Saying this with a noisy background makes no sense at all of course.... Does it wait until you've finished speaking?! This error is coming directly from Google Voice Search, so utter! can't be saying it by 'accident'.... Is your ROM stable? I'm inclined to point the finger that way for now.... Wish I could always do that!
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
It is waiting till I finish before it says it. I will flash a new ROM within the hour and try it again!
[Android Apps and Games] ewingr:
Interesting. I had tried it only once, and it spelled out the word. That was 'period'. So, I just tried it again, and it worked.
[Android Apps and Games] jesusice:
Maybe you could just take my damn money already :)
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Ben, most headsets and bluetooth speakers have noise cancelling integrated into them. I would think as long as Utter is accepting the communication through the device all should be well as the noise cancelling works both ways?
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
(Idk if this is what u mean but)Well I'm not using Bluetooth. The problem I am having is through the device.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
I would normally apologise for making you go to so much effort, but I get the impression you are quite excited to be flashing something else :D

Ha! I best get on with that option!

I've wondered exactly how Google decides when to return the word or the punctuation equivalent? I'll guess I'll find out with some more testing.

I'm concerned about the cheaper ones really. I actually have to go out and buy a couple that have had the worst reviews to test them! The testing involves me cruising through town, windows down and the stereo up, wearing a bluetooth headset on each ear, whilst singing.... Unless any of you hardened testers want to volunteer!? No? Doh!

I went off on a tangent.
[Android Apps and Games] 99problemz:
What he said :D
[Android Apps and Games] alen1901:
Brandall, in my country(Croatia), Utter! is on 9th place of trending apps in playstore! Nice. ;)

Sent from SpeedMachine i9023
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Hope so! :D

I really thought this would mean a huge amount of installs, but officially the quietest day since utter! went beta.... Really strange and more than a little disappointing... :crying:

But actually, I suppose I can at least say 'at one point I was in the top 10 most popular in the world!'

I shall bore my Grandchildren with it one day! :cowboy:
[Android Apps and Games] nerys71:
that is interesting you mention that.

I notice google now "gets" what I am saying with scary accuracy even with the window open but the "other" voice recognition modes on the phone are horrible in comparison in a non quiet environment. Svoice is just horrible.

also how do I use the google now google navigation "voice" for TTS ?

it wants me to install svox and pick a voice I nixed that the moment it said it might replace the voice in other places.

on the S3 and Note II and I assume other Jellybean devices the "voice" is extraordinarily improved while utter sounds like the "old" style like from my S2.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
If the noise cancellation is working well, you would have thought it wouldn't make a difference - unless somehow Google's recognition can remove background distortion? I'm not actually sure which recognition provider Samsung uses? I don't think they have their own capabilities?

I'm also wondering if the recognition technology Google use for their own voice search/Now is the same as the one they share with the rest of the Platform...?

If you go to the utter! settings and select 'force Google Now Voice' that should work for you.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Mine was better tonight. Is your Internet connection fairly quick? I've noticed when my connection is not strong I get more errors. The Bluetooth statement is about a different post. I'm also talking about just the device.
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
O OK! and yeah my connection seems to be pretty snappy. i am on my home wirless network

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Well it went very unpleasantly, haha as i was flashing the new rom my phone decided to get rid of everything on my sd card and everywhere else on my phone so i couldnt use the backup.... so now im waiting for the .tar to finish downloading so i can flash back to stock.... bad day... haha :eek:
[Android Apps and Games] nerys71:
I think samsung uses their own engine. its the worst of all if ANY noise is present.

Gnow even with the window down gets what I say most of the time. I notice dictation is "not" as good as it used to be but now I remember its no longer going "online" to convert the dictation but doing it locally instead. worth it for the speed :) just wish I could tap words and select from alternatives or correct placing the cursor is a REAL PAIN in android :) especially at 240dpi

I tried selecting for google now voice but the X does not change. should it not change to a check mark ? well I guess its working because it sounds MUCH better now :)

also can I stop it from saying what it is in centigrade? I am never going to use centigrade unless the nation switches so its only aggravating to have to wait for it to get to the local temperature nomenclature every single time :)
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
OK so I'm super impressed! I had no backup of utter and had not made a cloud backup and all my data was reset like completely... it was if I got a new factory phone no music or pics left but utter still remembers my custom commands! (That's awesome)
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Google Music won't work. When I say "STREAM + song title", I get the following message each time : "Sorry, but I couldn't find an application that supports media streaming. HORRORS!
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
Same here. It used to work...
[Android Apps and Games] jesusice:
GMusic works for me when I say Play. Haven't tried Stream.
[Android Apps and Games] HunnyBearLewis:
It should change to a green check mark, and it does, but the graphic isn't updated until you back out of that menu and return to it again. Well, at least that is how it was for me.

As for the centigrade, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can't change that. You could always just familiarize yourself with centigrade :p haha.
[Android Apps and Games] guy4jesuschrist:
Sorry for the delayed response. Been having some issues with my phone and flashing a ROM, as well as work.

You are very welcome, especially with all the hard work you put into utter! I can remove the quote, no problem! I actually used Nova Launcher, but in the past have used Apex. I purchased both, so you're probably right about that being a premium feature. Haven't tested to see if it's part of the free version of either.

Regardless, it would be nice to be able to install a standalone app that doesn't rely on "Activities" provided by a specific launcher. Unfortunately, Any Cut doesn't even come up in the play store on my phone when I click the posted link. I think I've searched in the past for Any Cut and wasn't able to find it. It must not be compatible with my phone or ROM. Somehow I came across "xShortcut FREE" in the past, through searching for Any Cut or a suggestion in this thread. Not sure if it has an option to create a shortcut through an "Activities" menu though. I will check and report back with my findings.

Edit: I decided to read through the pages I missed the past few days, before checking xShortcut.

Brandall, I saw that you plan to implement a standalone shortcut to launch the listening activity, to cover all bases, especially to help those who don't have launchers with activities menu entries. Great idea! Perhaps, it can be an option in settings that can be toggled between enable/disable, for those that might not need or use the option? Just an idea. :)
[Android Apps and Games] CZ Eddie:
I'm sorry if it's been asked a thousand times. I searched the thread for keyword phrase "pull down" but didn't see an answer to this question.

How do you remove Utter from displaying in the pull-down notification window?

It's there even when I'm not using it.

Galaxy S3 ATT on JellyBean 4.1.1 official release.
[Android Apps and Games] Kmvanzant:
so close to perfect..

same here, really want to switch to this from voice control full but without the music... Google Play Music authenticated (and installed), won't work with "play+[artist name]" or "stream+[artist name]". running a droid razr cdma with a jellybean ROM (full throttle sta). WILL play music I have on my phone that's not in a .nomedia folder. Also using the UK voice recognition, everything else picks up the commands fine. By the way, amazing work you've done so far! blows me away the apps some people can make on their own. Let me know if you need anything log wise.
[Android Apps and Games] guy4jesuschrist:
I noticed a few replies related to my instructions post after responding to Brandall's, so I figured I'd acknowledge them, even though it seem like all has been resolved with Brandall's idea to add an additional standalone app for launching the listening shortcut.

Thanks for resolving this question! I wasn't sure if it was a free or premium feature. Still unsure if the free version of Nova Launcher also offers this ability, but I'm guessing it does.

This is true. I hadn't thought about that. I believe the new and improved ADW Launcher works on devices Gingerbread devices and up, as well as Holo Launcher. They might both have the Activities menu option, and they offer the look of the Android 4.x launchers. :)

Yeah, that's a good point. Glad that Brandall has a plan to remedy the issue, so that those without an Activities menu entry can just choose the standalone app. :)
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Sorry to hear it didn't go well, but glad to hear the backup worked! Even when you didn't do anything... which further adds to my confusion!! :confused:

The tick cross settings don't update in real time - very annoying and can't fix... Will just have to stay until the app goes 'Holo'...

High on my list is to allow the user to select their preferred units.

DOH! Good spot... How have I broken that.....

I'll post a fix to the Play Store later today - thanks for letting me know! :good:

The secret to my success has been having a great team of testers! :good:

Thank you - does xShortcut work?

There are going to be the 'moaners' who want the shortcut to work, but not have an additional icon in their launcher!! If you let me know that xShortcut did the job for the free app, then I can link your post from the user guide, so all bases covered! :good:

Thanks for doing that.

In the utter! settings, you can select 'Remove Notification' - I wouldn't advise doing this though, as it will enable Android to kill the app mid command. Having it in the notification bar lets Android know it's important and only to kill it as a last resort. It doesn't use any additional resource by being there and is a way to activate the recognition by tapping it. Your call of course!

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Thanks again for reporting the Google Music bug - I'll investigate what I've done.......

By the way, I think I've caught nearly all of the bugs - I'm currently working on a Tutorial mode for beginners to guide them around the app - I'm only getting about a 35% retention rate on installs and I need to improve this. It's going to take me a good few days to complete it and then after that I hopefully can get on with adding more features!

EDIT: Looks like the XDA Premium app/Tapatalk server is down, so sorry I haven't been able to thank +1 any of your posts - I can only do it using that app.
[Android Apps and Games] Extreme_One:
Bug: installed Catchnotes but when trying to assign to utter! I cannot select it and utter! tells me "I didn't detect a selection"

Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Poor Recognition?

Tested again this morning while driving into work (FAILURE RATE ABOUT 80%). What the heck? However when I got off the interstate, I tried again and my success rate was much higher. (IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE SENSITIVITY LEVEL HAS CHANGED)????? Not sure what could have done that, but something realllly weird is going on here. Anyone else notice background noise affecting Utter's ability to communicate?:eek:
[Android Apps and Games] mandingo1966:
J agree with you
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
There's supposed to be some text saying 'coming soon' next to Catch Notes and Springpad, but it's not displaying.... Doh! I've not completed the integration yet. Will fix for the release later!

Hmmm.... I've not changed anything in my code, so please do keep me posted on this... A little concerning...
[Android Apps and Games] jesusice:
Perhaps people don't realize just how much you can do with Tasker + Utter? Maybe you could provide some sample/template tasks that the user could just import into Tasker? For example, I'm pretty sure that I saw Tasker instructions here how to get Utter to announce when I get a new text and offer to read it aloud but I haven't been able to find it again (to be fair I haven't looked exceptionally hard). I've had Tasker for a while but never did anything too advanced with it before. With Utter I'm trying to utilize it more but we all know that Tasker can be intimidating. If you can make that side of it easier for a new user I'd think that would help.

Also, it drives me nuts that when she can't understand me she just says no dice and then stops listening. I feel it'd be more intuitive to have a setting where she will keep listening after a failed command so that you can try it again without having to activate her again.
[Android Apps and Games] Extreme_One:
Great idea!

"Sorry, you lost me on that command. Please try again." [Listening...]

Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Make Utter easier?

Good point here. I love Tasker, but I too have difficulty with its use. I downloaded and used Ben's New Text tasks and I followed the instruction explicitly and it works GREAT!!! As I scrolled thru the profiles & tasks though, I realized how technically inefficient I really am by looking at his examples. The "average" user would never get that far.

So, a repository maybe from other users of tasks that have been created (sort of like plugins) that will advance Utter with minimal user interaction, might make for a better transition for some.

I think Utter's 35% retention rate is due to (2) things:

1. It's a BETA. I've tried beta and what I always look for is functionality. I don't mind bells and whistles either, but the first thing I want to know is-Does it Work? People don't care about Beta and will give a bad review without hesitation (fair or unfair) which is a shame.

2. How quickly can I configure it for my needs? Utter has broken NEW ground with the Custom Commands, Nicknames, etc. (how many voice apps have you installed and deleted BEFORE you got to Utter)? So, we're in a mindset from the get-go that "assistant" apps shouldn't require me to do so much? (We all know from experience that we have to accept an app's pitfalls...but you know what? Utter changed all that, HOWEVER, the only ones that truly appreciate this functionality are the power users/the geeks/...you know what I mean?

So there you go...it's the intimidating thing...people have a mindset, and if they don't understand what the functions are or how to work them, they'll drop the app for something easier.