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[Android Apps and Games] cerius:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Maybe use a word to end the command like the old telegraph days..(referring to the word stop after every sentence ) Like say a command the say a word to stop that command, or even a single command (maybe even toggle that) then continue with multiple commands that way..

Just a thought.. Would beat turning the command back on for multiple commands..
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Posts today 2/7/2013

Good stuff today. Your input, testing, comments, are all appreciated and it's what's going to make Utter THE application that people want. Keep em coming.

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A thought on this topic.... Voice commands may not be recognized in a noisy environment so check something for me if you would.

When for example if I'm making a call, I can pull down the notification bar and terminate that call by clicking on an icon. See if you have that on your bar when making a call. Maybe Utter could do the same to be silenced so members like Itassos could have used a feature like this today.

I do see an issue though with applications that let you hide or lock the notification bar.

Hmmmmmm... Now what.

That's why we're here folks-your thoughts please?
[Android Apps and Games] bruce7373:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

I was thinking about multiple commands and how they might be a workaround for the Google Voice texting limitation.

Could there be some sort of selectable built-in macro that would send the verbal text to the clipboard, then open GV and paste the message? Not a particularly elegant solution, especially if utter can't automatically set up GV with the recipient. Just thinking of ways to automate as many steps as possible. :)

Sent from my HTC Vivid (ICS)
[Android Apps and Games] trein91:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Will an offline version be available anytime soon?
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Offline has been talked about recently, but needs some work/coding still before it's released for testing. The good news is..yes it will be available in a future release.:D
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for the suggestion - For me and you XDA folks, this would be great - but as soon as it hits the Play Store = "I have to talk like a robot to get this stupid thing to do anything. Uninstalled Crap"

Maybe a slight exaggeration... but I've got to work out a way to do this with natural speech... Somehow... I'm working on it! That said, I'm sure the first couple of test builds with it will do it exactly like you describe!

I like this and I should be making more use of the notification area, especially for Jelly Bean's updated notifications - Added to the list!

For now you can say 'remember this +anything' and it will be saved to the clipboard so you can paste it anywhere... Not what you're after, but it saves typing it I suppose! I'm going to post a question in a moment about Google Services, I'd appreciate your opinion....

Well.... I'll answer this in a post in 30 minutes or so....
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Quandary...

Hey folks, I could do with your feedback on a couple of things please.....

1) When I installed Swiftkey, it asked for access to my Google Account in order to analyse my typing style to enhance prediction. I declined this at first because I'm protective of the content of my Google Account (especially) as it holds so much of my personal information. Would you give 'sweeping' access to your Google Account to an application, if it meant it could manage your emails, play music, access Google Voice, post to G+ and upload to Drive....?

I'm thinking of implementing a global login (with a very clear privacy policy for users) that will allow me access to all of this stuff. It would certainly be a lot easier than the work-arounds I'm messing with now.... Does it just come down to how much you 'trust' an application to be sensitive with your data?

2) I think I might have to take the offline version of utter! into private beta as I don't want it in the public domain - and also, I can't cope with too many more users! I need to correct some issues within the application and include/enhance some features before I throw it out there. If it sent the app viral, I'd just implode under the user support.... :crying:

So, I'll be posting a request at some point over the coming days or weeks (I'm not sure yet) to ask if you'd like to be involved. I'm really sorry to disappoint those that have been eagerly waiting to test it out; if there were 5 of me it would be different! Am I doing the right thing....?
[Android Apps and Games] shawn13165:
1. I'm kinda like you. Rather not give permission like that to an app. It can learn my typing style as we go.

The global login sounds like a good idea if it makes things easier for you and less work arounds to make it work proper.

2. Private beta is completely understandable and your choice to do so. If chosen as a tester I would try my best but can be patient and wait until its more widely available.

The job that you have done with utter is remarkable.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for your response and kind words too! You'd already made the short-list :highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] cerius:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

I'm with you on the waiting part and would love to test it for you.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Regarding Swiftkey-have used it for several months and it never bothered me about the permissions.... BUT I just recently switched to KII KEYBOARD, which I believe was developed by an XDA member and in my opinion is far better than Swiftkey. If that's the case it might be far better Ben if you two could link up and share data. In addition Swiftkey also analyzes text, Facebook and Twitter messages for its predictions. Don't know if you can work something out, but Google has collected our data for some time now, so if that's the route you have to take it's okay with me.

Offline recognition-I firmly believe that private testing will be needed in order to optimize the experience when it's released to the masses. R&D has always been the cornerstone for success in development and if not taken seriously almost always results in disaster, so that being said we need the feedback of others in order to implement a course of action.

My 2 cents for the day!
[Android Apps and Games] bruce7373:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Ben, ditto what GLDavis said. I had been using SwiftKey Flow, too, before moving on to Kii, and didn't have a problem giving them permissions. I don't use Facebook and very seldom tweet so the only real consideration was Gmail, which is not my primary email and certainly doesn't handle anything sensitive. So I had no problem letting SKF use that to enhance predictions. If you chose to do that, I would likewise have no problem with it. The only drawback I remember being discussed in SK's forum was whether or not allowing this caused a battery drain.

You are developing a wonderful product. What's available from the Play Store is already great. Don't worry about taking the beta offline if it makes the development easier for you (and keeps you sane, lol). It actually says reams about you that you would even be conflicted about it. Really good things take time. I think we all here appreciate that. I know I do.

I join others here in offering my support in any way I can. :)

Sent from my HTC Vivid (ICS)
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

It actually says reams about you that you would even be conflicted about it.

Well said. :D
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

1. Ik I probably shouldn't be but I am pretty lenient on letting things have access to my accounts.

And I like your idea, beats work arounds!

2. Private beta will keep you from getting swamped so I would say its a good idea! And would like to help you out with it! ;)

:thumbup: :good:
[Android Apps and Games] IAmAN00bie:
My lack of a data plan has kept me away from using utter! fully as a voice assistant, but wow I just read like 30 pages of stuff I've missed and I can't believe you've gotten offline support working. Count me in!
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Haven't seen you in a while.. Thanks for the support!
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

I would definitely give an application I trusted access to everything, but then I am like that.

Looking forward to the offline beta.
[Android Apps and Games] Extreme_One:
Depends on the application and how much I trust the developer. I don't usually install apps unless I trust them in the 1st place so once I've decided an app is worth installing then I have no problem granting permissions.

Global login for utter! sounds great - perhaps will help provide a reliable way to get cloud backup/restore for all our settings and configs?

Q. How are things coming along with the community phrases part of the project?
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
I personally would give sweeping access to utter because I understand its capabilities. However, will the general masses understand it? My gut says they won't. I've seen a lot of reviews in the PlayStore for a multitude of apps where the user review is basically "why does this app need access to my...uninstalled". So I'm predicting a "sweeping access" requirement may reduce utter's potential user base regarding the general public.

Just my thoughts
[Android Apps and Games] digital box:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

A way to satisfy everyone would be to create an add on application that requests extra permissions. JRummy for example created an add on, Market Helper, for specifically the reason that people would be afraid of permissions.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Offline Private Beta Test

Hi folks, thank you all once again for your invaluable feedback. I won't quote any in particular, but you'll see from your thanks meters that I've read them all. I think I have the direction I will take straight in my mind now. :good:

If you want to be part of the private beta to test the Offline version of utter!, then please open the app and click on 'Send Feedback' so it populates your device data. Please change the title to OFFLINE and stick your XDA user name in the message somewhere!

To be involved, you'll need to be ICS rooted and able to run a hacked version of Google Now (I don't know the requirements or which ones work I'm afraid, or if by using such a hack you are breaching Google's copyright/T&C - So please be mindful.). Or just Jelly Bean, root or not.

The initial test will be just for rooted devices, with the non-root to follow.

Thanks again for wanting to be involved!

Cheers

Ben
[Android Apps and Games] cerius:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Sent :) rooted evo lte
[Android Apps and Games] Drifternz:
I would love to test it, however I don't meet the specs.. :crying:

(Not rooted and don't want to risk my phone by trying. Seen too many posts of those that have bricked their phone on their first attempt )

With the Global access thing. I for one am very cautious about what apps I will allow access. However in saying that, it also depends on the type of app and what it does.

There is no way I would allow a game those rights, but in a app like Utter, it makes sense for it to have those rights, so I wouldn't hesitate to give them.

I do like the idea of a add in to give those rights though, but wonder if that would make things difficult and messy from the developers point and also add a vulnerability to the program that could be exploited later by others.

Therefore, I would say build them in and give the user a on off to utter using them. That way if they use gmail or g+ etc they can have it,but if they don't use those things, then they can disable it and have no worries about their data etc if they are concerned about it.
[Android Apps and Games] bruce7373:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Looks like I'm SOL too, as I'm not rooted and have no plans to do so. But that's OK. I'll stay over here on the sidelines and shout encouragement. ;)

Sent from my HTC Vivid (ICS)
[Android Apps and Games] freworld:
great

My First message here but i have been following this for a while. Love to see this being still alive. (if not updated often)

I have been using rooted GB and due to some reasons it didn't listen to my voice(commands) on old ROM (it didn't like my hoarse voice :P )

Currently i am using MaxDroid http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1957706 and utter is working great.

I surely would like to see updated versions of this and offline version too.(high speed internet is not available at all places when i move or its too costly affair in my part of the world)

I just used the "send feedback" option

Or is it that GB ROM users cant participate? reasons? Google now thingy?

Would this help then? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1938217

Anyway i am in process to install Dexter's JB on my Flyer :) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1795342, just in case that would let me in for offline beta testing :)

Ass kicking stuff :)

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] freworld:
A issue though. I am not able to set alarms.

On Saying "Set a reminder for 8AM" , replies with " Sorry but i couldn't structure that alarm"

I usually use a alarm app But its not currently installed.
[Android Apps and Games] freak4dell:
I've been using utter!, but I haven't been posting much. Anyway, just wanted to ask a couple quick questions.

1. Is it possible to say "set a timer" instead of "alarm" or "reminder"? I know this didn't make much sense before, but now that Android finally has a timer built in, it may be useful. I use utter! a lot when cooking, so I'm always asking it to set a timer, then remembering that I can't say it like that.

2. Is it possible to set a long press of one of the navigation buttons as the shortcut to start listening?

Just figured I'd ask those 2 things before I create custom commands (for 1) and try to do it via Tasker (for 2).

Anyway, glad to see things are progressing as usual, and once again, thank you! I'd love to test the offline version, but I have a new phone with ICS with JB supposedly coming very soon, so I'm holding off on rooting for the moment. By the way, utter! seems to work just fine on a phone with an Intel SOC, just in case anybody was worried about compatibility.
[Android Apps and Games] bruce7373:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

The command for an alarm/reminder is pretty specific it seems. Instead of stating the target time, you need to specify in how many hours/minutes it will be. For instance:

"Set an alarm in 3 hours and 30 minutes"

I tried " three and a half hours" and even that didn't work.

Sent from my HTC Vivid (ICS)
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

You can say set an alarm in ? minutes from 1 to 59. As Bruce says below you can specify in hours and minutes only right now. This feature and the calendar appointments are on the to do list to be worked on. :D

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You should be able to long press your search button and a dialogue should pop up giving you the option to set Utter as the default.
[Android Apps and Games] freak4dell:
Thanks. Unfortunately, Google made the genius decision of ditching the search and menu buttons after Gingerbread.
[Android Apps and Games] bruce7373:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

I've been meaning to ask:

What is 'toast the clipboard?'

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[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

I think there is a post about what you are asking. Not sure where but fairly recent..... I think! I try to stay on top of the posts just can't remember them all!:beer:

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If you've copied anything to the clipboard, the phrase toast displays it. Probably about the center of your screen.

You could try "remember this" then you can say toast the clipboard and it will display your result.
[Android Apps and Games] bruce7373:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Ah, OK. Thanks. The message box only stays visible for a couple of seconds though. Maybe that should be an adjustable setting.

Sent from my HTC Vivid (ICS)
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

My thoughts as well. You can always paste the contents though if you need something for longer.
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
On the subject of alarms, mine don't seem to work anymore. Using the stock JellyBean clock application, I tell utter to "Set alarm for 1 minute called Test".

Utter opens the clock application, a new alarm is populated for the correct time, the alarm indicator is "on", but the alarm is never actually set (I do not get the alarm clock icon in my notification area, the alarm clock application is left open on my display, and the alarm never goes off at the designated time.)
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
I'm using a 3rd party application called Alarm Clock Plus and it works flawlessly with that. I'm wondering because Utter was set to use whatever apps we USED to function is it not recognizing what came with the phone?

Let me ask though, did it work with any of the previous editions of Utter? If so, then it's probably a coding fix that Ben needs to update.
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
Yes, it used to work. I never had a third party clock application installed. It's been a while since I tried it so I cannot be explicit on when it stopped functioning.
[Android Apps and Games] bruce7373:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

I don't know if this is the difference, but I had to say *exactly*:

'Set an alarm in one minute called Test.'

Any variation from that and utter couldn't understand. I'm on ICS using stock clock, so maybe that figures into the equation, too.

Sent from my HTC Vivid (ICS)
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
Thanks but that didn't work. I got the same results (on 2 different devices)

utter opens the clock application

utter says "that's done"

clock is showing the new alarm with the alarm set to "on"

no alarm notification icon in the notification area

the clock application is left open on my display

the alarm never goes off (because it was never set)

almost like it's missing a final step in setting the alarm. If I manually turn the alarm off and then right back on again, then I get the alarm icon in the notification area and the alarm goes off as expected.
[Android Apps and Games] insanimal:
You sir are a legend! :)
[Android Apps and Games] freworld:
Bug?

I have set utter for calling for e.g "Call Home" and confirmation reply from utter is "Sure" or "Right away"

Often times, commands gets through and contact is called but "sure" is never replied.

works only sometimes. Bug?
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
It may not be a bug, it might be the voice engine you are using. Sometimes there's a lag and Ivona in particular so it might be getting cut off before it has a chance to speak by the call being connected.
[Android Apps and Games] CarsnGadgets:
I have the same problem on my Nexus 7, I informed Ben a few months back and he is waiting to get his Nexus so that he can test it. So it is being looked at. :0)

ps. if you turn the "ON" to "OFF" and then back "ON" you should get the clock symbol in notifications by the clock? or at least I did.
[Android Apps and Games] freworld:
hmm

Though i think it is an issue with lag only. Say it doesnt speak if it thinks command execution has taken long or network is slow. But i am not using ivona. I am using the default voice which is i think AT&T watson.

Anyway...so brendall when is the alpha beta gamma of offline version coming out :D
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
Usually the lag of course is because of internet connectivity. Sometimes very very fast, other times...well, you know.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Re: [APP 2.3+][V3.0.0] BETA! | utter! | Your voice controlled personal assistant |

Hi folks, just a quick post to say I'll be back later to reply!

Sent from xda premium
[Android Apps and Games] Extreme_One:
My new tablet will be here in a couple of days and will be running JB (yay!) :D so I can't wait to test!
[Android Apps and Games] freworld:
lol

yeah i have that a lot. But to be frank, i have seen confirmation reply not coming with quick fetch followed by quick proper command performed, on good speed connection too.(less common though)

Anyway just to test whether utter doesn't like my voice,:p i fired up brendall videos :P

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MUI5MIMCTSI#t=965s

and fed his voice to his pet (my utter):laugh:

& though he had also a flyer and i also testing on flyer, the reply i got was

" Sorry but i couldn't structure that alarm"

why?

Hey brandall, your utter practices racism between devices :p Fix it quick else i gonna report in android court :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
1) I'll definitely have a look at using the stock timer app - If that doesn't work, it's been on the list for a long time to implement a stopwatch/time of my own.

2) On Jelly Bean, you can long press the Home Button and then select the search icon - that should then give you a choice to pick utter!/Google/s-voice/etc... If that doesn't work, try the same on the menu button, or double tapping!

Number 5 on the list is to update the alarm to work in the same way as calendar settings, with days and times and repeats etc. Coming soon! :D

:good: as CarsnGadgets said, he reported this many moons ago! Nexus has been ordered, so I'll hopefully be able to solve the problem then - it works fine all on of my devices including JB, so puzzled.

Depending on how snappy your device is, it may mute the media stream and initiate the call prior to the voice engine having a chance to say the success phrase. I thought about booming it out of the speaker, but if you've just put the phone to your ear, that might not be a good idea!

:D WHOOP! Added you to the testing list!

Ha! :D So you say 'set an alarm in 10 minutes called hello' and it doesn't work? Could you enable the visual results and check that GVS isn't hearing 'settle an arm' or something please? If it is, it's a replace words feature to fix!

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Thanks as always for all of the posts folks (your thanks meters have increased!) - If I've missed a question or a problem, please do let me know.

For back page arrivals, the latest test build is on the Play Store!