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[Android Apps and Games] Camel Chops:
I've had the following conversation with @skyhelpteam on twitter today:

Me - "is the android sky go app going to be made available for the HTC one x? Yes or no? Straight answer please."

Sky - "can't honestly say sorry. Kris"

Me - "I don't understand how you can't HONESTLY say? Surely the subject has been discussed within the company #pleasebehonest"

Sky - "I'm being honest with you we simply don't know. Kris"

Me - "if the HDMI option is the problem then what about laptops? The one x is a flagship phone and its a disgrace not to be supported"

Sky - "don't know why this is"

Me - "if that is true then it seems like a very poor way to run a company. Alienating a lot of customers who have very popular phone"

Sky - no reply!

Its a joke that they can't give us a straight answer and if they don't end up supporting the hox then its a disgrace!
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Standard reply reading from paper posted in this thread 100 times do we need it again? Is it going to help us run it? Nope, ffs supposed to be a modding forum, how the mighty forum crumbles. .

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] daindian:
Can someone help I have a s3 running stock ics. When I try opening the app over 3G I get the error messege that a technical error has occurred. It works fine over wifi
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
No idea mate but as much info as possible would be a help... Network? Deffo a virgin phone (aka not rooted and tried to unroot)?

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] combat goofwing:
Are ant devs working on this app trying to remove the device check that worked when the original app was modded
[Android Apps and Games] Camel Chops:
Wow, aren't you an arrogant ass! Is there any need to be such a pr**k when I'm just posting some info that some people might be interested in!
[Android Apps and Games] combat goofwing:
Go intosetting to enable streaming over 3g
[Android Apps and Games] Morbidx13:
tried to get this working on my gf's S2, i put siyah on her phone a while back, tried removing root with extweaks but it still came up saying it doesnt work with rooted phones after hers was unrooted.

dont want to do a full wipe but not sure if i can just flash a stock kernel to get it working
[Android Apps and Games] rferrett:
I am increasingly thinking that an arms race between XDA Devs and content providers with a last century view of protected content is about to be launched over root hiding.

Personally I back the devs! :)

Of course making things difficult for the small but vocal minority of techie Internet nerds like us is surely a recipe for them wholesale pushing people to piracy?

I wonder just how many people on this thread have downloaded the Android Sopcast application in frustration? More than a fair few id say.

And whilst techie nerds are a small minority we do all tend to widely advise our circle of friends and family.

Just seems like an unnecessary expense of time and money from Sky, surely the numbers of us who actually root in the UK Are pretty negligible?
[Android Apps and Games] ddrinkwater:
Anyone manged a way around the "unsuported device" issue ?

Just checking if anyone worked a way around the unsupported device challenges with the new sky go release ?

Trying to get it to work on a nexus S, running ICS.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] bombaybadboy:
Think its down to xcons patches for sky go on iphones that require root to use. So people with root cant use it to get free access to sky go.
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
FYI - this post is full of awesome:

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Using-Sky-Go/SKY-GO-FOR-HTC-ONE-X/m-p/515816/highlight/true#M21698

I wonder how soon they'll get bored of tweets asking about Sky Go, find them here: http://twitter.com/skyhelpteam and drop them a line.
[Android Apps and Games] combat goofwing:
Are any devs working on removing the device check part of this new app like gumbald did last time
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
Someone needs to get round their recompiling/certificate check first...
[Android Apps and Games] bluudolphin:
New sky apk!!

Hi Girls & Guys,

I'm a newbie 2 all this stuff so don't go slating me 4 this post :o

I've got a Sammy P6800 7.7 tab running on H/C (waiting 4 ICS update) I've not rooted it coz I'm at a loss there :laugh:

I installed the apk sky app & had it working great thanx 2U Guys, but since sky changed their app I've lost sky now like a lot of U.

I saw the new apk that was post so I installed it & tried to get sky back up, but I get "Sorry SkyGo is not currently supported on this device"

If & when I get the ICS update will the new apk work for me then:confused:
[Android Apps and Games] wolfboy1984:
Being a newbie doesn't mean you aren't allowed to read the list of compatible devices in Sky Go app description on Google Play - and the last 10 pages here, so at least you get the gist of what's going on.
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
As much as I agree with the sentiment...

*Supported handsets: HTC Desire, HTC Desire S, HTC Desire HD, HTC Incredible, HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XE, Google Galaxy Nexus, Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy S3 and Samsung Galaxy Note.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bskyb.skygo

"No."
[Android Apps and Games] Audio Oblivion:
yep... completely removed. no joy.

i would also like to know this...

even after device is unrooted, sky go still complains about root. Will flashing a stock kernel solve this?
[Android Apps and Games] FleetFanatic:
I ended up having to completely wipe and install a stock rom.
[Android Apps and Games] Audio Oblivion:
Thanks for the heads up.
[Android Apps and Games] flakjak:
I wait for the great xda to sort this one out. :)
[Android Apps and Games] Stu|:
On the root check, could someone check the state of the /system partition after they have hidden root? I was wondering if it stayed rw.
[Android Apps and Games] wolfboy1984:
The Advertising Standards Agency replied to my complaint as to why they Sky were showing a non-compatible device (then the S3) in their advertising last month.

The result is of course, as expected. But hopefully calls from the ASA might push them a little more into getting faster updates to Android and for more devices - amongst other things.

Please LISTEN to your subscribers Sky!!

...

Dear Mr Wolfboy1984,

YOUR COMPLAINT - BRITISH SKY BROADCASTING LTD

Thank you for contacting us.

We discussed your comments with Sky.* They explained that at present Sky Go is only supported on particular versions of the Android operating system software that run on Android smartphones and software.* They said the TV ad referred to states in the voiceover that Sky Go is available on ‘selected Android smartphones’, as you had noted, and the on screen text further clarifies that a ‘compatible device’ is required.* They pointed out that the call to action is for consumers to download the app from the relevant app store and that when a user does this using their handset the device / operating system requirements are very clearly explained in the body copy, as follows: *

“What are the handset requirements?

Sky Go is supported on the following Android smartphones running on 2.2 & 2.3 operating systems: HTC Desire, HTC Desire S, HTC Desire HD, HTC Incredible, HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XE, Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Galaxy S ll.

Please note that if existing Sky Go users with V2.2 or 2.3 choose to upgrade to V4.0 they will not be able to stream content through the Sky Go app until the operating system can be fully supported.”

They explained that they also explain the device/software requirements in print and online marketing through use of the following text:

*

“iPhone (3GS or above), iPad, iPod touch (4th generation or above) require iOS 4.3 or later, and available on selected HTC and Samsung smartphones with OS 2.2x or 2.3x”.

*

Sky acknowledge that, if the software on a Samsung Galaxy S has been updated to a later version, 4.0 (also known as ‘Ice Cream Sandwich’), then, as made clear in the marketing material for the app, this later version cannot as yet support Sky Go.* They pointed out, however, that they are planning to release a new version of the Sky Go app later this month (as you also said) that does run on v4.0 and that this is flagged in the body copy of the app store page, where text states “Sky Go support for Ice Cream Sandwich will be released later this month”.

*

Given the overall amount of information, and the conditional way that the availability of the app is expressed in the ad, we don’t think viewers are likely to be misled into thinking that the app would be available on any device, regardless of its operating system, or that they would download the app without having the requirements made clear, and so won’t take matters further this time.

*

I’m sorry to disappoint, but would like to thank you for raising your concerns with us.* If you would like more information about our work, please visit our website, www.asa.org.uk.

*

Kind Regards

Justine.

*

Justine Grimley.

Complaints Executive.
[Android Apps and Games] voyager_s:
Interesting...oh well. Good on you for trying. Let's just hope someone somehow manages to find a way around all these over the top restrictions. I do not want to unroot my note or any handset just for sky.
[Android Apps and Games] slvrarrow:
Can we not set up a "Bounty" for the cracking of this app to work on rooted phones at LEAST on the specified devices as well as on Jelly Bean?

I'd pledge £10

Would the OP be willing to add a tally and subtitle to 1st post?
[Android Apps and Games] funb0b:
+1
[Android Apps and Games] combat goofwing:
plus one here for getting it working on a non rooted htc one x
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
This +1
[Android Apps and Games] DeeJay00001:
I would also like to donate to the development of SkyGo on an unrooted handset.

I currently have the Xperia S and it was running fine on Gingerbread but as soon as I upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich it all stopped working.

Dave J
[Android Apps and Games] Agno92:
Hello, is there any way to get to work on galaxy known with ics? Rom kingdroid 5.1 final, notecore kernel 8.1, thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
No had you read the last page you would know this... Supported none rooted devices only....

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
It stopped working as it's not a supported device..

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] Agno92:
but then for what devices are compatible? sorry but I do not know English very well :)
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
It's not for you read the thread name man...

Re: [APP] Sky Go for Android (UK ONLY)

Pay special attention to the last bit...

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] Camel Chops:
Who says he doesn't live in the UK? Just because he doesn't speak very much English, doesn't mean he doesn't live here. Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
So why has he not posted again... Hmm I wonder, maybe he was not in the UK eh?

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] Camel Chops:
Or maybe he has other things in his life that are more important than responding to your arrogant nonsense
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Why you having a pop? Clear he is not from the UK we have had many before.. My guess maybe Italian, since they have sky too.... Or about 5 other countries...

Your just trying to create an argument..

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] Camel Chops:
I'm not looking for an argument, I just don't like people like you. I've seen a few of your posts on here (including replies to myself) and its clear what type of person you are. You're arrogant and rude. People come on here looking for help/info. You could help them with your knowledge but you choose not to. Instead you just give short/arsy replies, making them feel unwelcome and useless. If I have knowledge on a subject I happily share that knowledge with others but you don't. So that why I have a problem with you!
[Android Apps and Games] daz_2000:
Back on topic. Is anyone actually trying to hack this for rooted devices??
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
Something's changed. I think they're playing with us.
[Android Apps and Games] daz_2000:
Keep trying mate!
[Android Apps and Games] WasherUK:
It dosnt even work on non rooted xps, my unlimted data plan is a little more suck :(
[Android Apps and Games] chrisw99:
Recently someone posted a link to an explanation from Sky describing how they have to disable hdmi out for contractual reasons, and also why particular phone models are not supported. Mostly bollocks, but you can see where they are coming from.

But have they ever mentioned why the rooted phones are blocked? I've searched but they always ignore this particular question.

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[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
They're good at ignoring the question why HDMI out on a laptop is available too though.
[Android Apps and Games] WasherUK:
It makes no sense :-/
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
This is what Sky says:--

Can I watch Sky Go on rooted devices

Unfortunately we are unable to support rooted devices as this breaches the contractual agreements we have with our content providers.

Rooting your device can put you at considerable risk by invalidating your warranty and exposes your device to malware.

We’d like to make you aware that using Sky Go on a rooted device also puts you at risk of exposing your Sky iD and personal information to 3rd parties.

You could use any jailbroken idevices from release until a few days after the android app went live. Again Sky refused to give a reason as to why they stopped this. Well in fact they did say it was for security reasons but that thread was soon pulled and nothing since.

Correct no matter how many times you ask on the forum, Live Chat, Phone or Email about why HDMI out is ok for Lappy's PC and Xbox 360

In fact on the link below they kind of show it:--

http://www.sky.com/shop/tv/sky-go/

Even on NOWTV they tell you:--

http://www.nowtv.com/home Click on HOW IT WORKS.

Crazy beyond words.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] combat goofwing:
But surprised surprise the new sky bet app works on any android device any OS,none of the bull excuses cause it makes them money
[Android Apps and Games] ac_utd:
Not sure if this helps, but apparently it now works on my mate's stock non rooted Sensation running ICS.

On my rooted Sensation, however, no such luck :mad:
[Android Apps and Games] Camel Chops:
I've had lengthy conversations this morning with sky customer service people on Twitter and facebook. They've admitted that they accept laptops can use the hdmi output option while android phones can't but claimed that the only reason for this is because they can't figure out how to disable the hdmi option on laptops. They also confirmed that they are currently testing the HTC one x with the app, so hopefully this devise will be supported soon
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
With someone's device that definitely works, what error message is displayed if there's no network connectivity when loading it?
[Android Apps and Games] CR5N:
3G disabled (in skygo app):

Unable to connect.

You need a network connection

to use Sky Go.

Please turn on Wi-Fi in

Settings.

3G enabled (in skygo app):

Sky app hangs and get...

Sky Go is not responding.

Would you like to close it?

[Wait] [Report] [OK]
[Android Apps and Games] ac_utd:
Hi gumbald. Any luck?

Appreciate your work, mate.
[Android Apps and Games] proxmty:
What?

You're effing joking. What knuts. Honestly. That's a complete kick in the teeth and tell me the whole thing is BS. Their contractual agreements they like to quote is actually that they get money from the phone network providers that charge for tethering (non-root) - THAT's the real reason.

PLEASE GO TO MARKET AND MARK HELPFUL TO ALL COMMENTS WHERE PEOPLE ARE PSSD OFF WITH ROOT SITUATION
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Pissing into the wind mate.. Sky don't give a monkey's what we think.....

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] chrisw99:
As well as the new sky bet, the existing sky+ app, sky sports news app, etc, all run on rooted phones and contain the sky id and personal information.
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Think your missing their point nothing to do with our private information, they are saying it's drm due to the distributors of sports / movies... Hence why you get Sky News.. Anyway f*** em....

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] slvrarrow:
Bump
[Android Apps and Games] ac_utd:
This thread is almost dead.

I tried the stock HTC ics kernel with voodoo but still no luck. I'm on viper Rom. Appreciate any thoughts even though many avenues have already been exhausted.

Surely the devs have a point to prove mm:rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] bombaybadboy:
Thread is dead, nothing can be done with this apk, plus now JB is keeping everyone busy and this apk isn't supported for JB. I had a few tries at this apk and I can't see anything can be done with it
[Android Apps and Games] OliverHaslam:
So I take it there's no way to get this running on a rooted version of Jelly Bean, then?
[Android Apps and Games] bombaybadboy:
You have to get a lot of work around for JB flash player isn't suppose to be supported on jb but works fine if you download it in other ways. I had trouble with simple ITV player and BBC iplayer. So I would say skygo is very little to no chance.
[Android Apps and Games] ac_utd:
That's a shame. I didn't think any of the devs would give up on this. Oh well, thanks anyway guys. :thumbup:

Any other options to watch the footy on my phone? Tried sopcast but it keeps crashing.
[Android Apps and Games] pjg_pigeon:
You could try the 'sports tv' app from the play store.

here
[Android Apps and Games] twistedh:
Can someone please be so kind as to post the apk for the new skysports tv app? Thank you :D
[Android Apps and Games] CharlesW123:
Sky Sports TV apk

Have attached the apk for the Sky Sports TV app, taken from my SGS2 running stock ICS (UK unbranded) where I installed it via the Play Store.

NOTE: I've found that if your phone is rooted that the app will not let you sign in, and therefore use it! Even after paying the £4.99 a month subscription fee! :-\

As soon as I un-rooted it worked fine!
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
That's not SkyGo and sky now is it?

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] CharlesW123:
Nope as stated in my post above it's the Sky Sports TV app, as requested above.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5ueHAuc2t5LnNreXNwb3J0c3R2Lmdvb2dsZSJd
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
I've not looked at it yet, but I'll take a wild guess they're using the same checks.
[Android Apps and Games] hard5ter:
when you say unrooted, please elaborate, as i cannot sucesfully unroot and use any sky apps.. i have to factory reset and never root in the first place.

is this what you did? or did you unroot?

if you did unroot without wiping, please explain steps.
[Android Apps and Games] Restorer:
Any progress identifying what checks they are using for spotting root? Or are they so sophisticated we have to give up and return to stock in order to use these apps?

At least now we know why they have been so keen to block the hdmi out. It was all nonsense to suggest their content providers wouldn't have it. It was Sky themselves who were worried they would lose stacks of sports subs if people could just plug their phone into the TV with an app that cost a quarter the price!
[Android Apps and Games] CharlesW123:
See this thread for root/unroot (is specific for ICS): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1746794

I used the method 1 to root (without changing kernel) on my SGS2, then when had the issues used the unroot script attached to that thread: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1272342&d=1345499651
[Android Apps and Games] smoothy666:
Interesting . Surely some one knows how they can identified root and block this some how. If this was also an american problem I reckon the problem would have been sorted already. So that just leaves us Brits lol. I can't tell you how peed off I am with sky.
[Android Apps and Games] Restorer:
Yup. We Sky Go users are such a tiny number in the xda community's scheme of things.

What Sky are doing is particularly annoying since they had a perfectly adequate way of testing for root before - one which would have more than satisfied any rights-pedlars anyway.

They then spent months coming up with this update which made sure the couple of workarounds we had at our disposal (for HTC phones that meant editing the default.prop and then hiding root with OTA Rootkeeper) no longer worked.
[Android Apps and Games] wolfboy1984:
Aside from the root problem - I hate the fact the biggest selling top end phones of this year will all be on JellyBean in a few months. And *maybe* even the S2 (samsung are testing at mo.) We know Sky will again drag their heels with this update.

For a major company such as Sky, to not create a properly universal app for 50% of new phones sold in this country is staggering. It smacks of no investment or resources or indeed knowhow?

Yes i know it's a free add on to our subscription but the way they push it in their adverts frustrates me and annoys me in equal measure. Sure, if they decide to monetise SkyGo, if its viable, I'm sure we'd see an marked improvement in double quick time. But i doubt they'd go this route anytime soon.

I also genuinely feel sorry for stock rom Galaxy Nexus users tho. They had the toughest deal out of everyone. With 'official support' but no support concurrently. To be on Google's own flagship phone, (which i know wasn't a massive seller but still) and for it have literally no real world support is simply laughable. But now we have the Nexus7 which has done better as far a JB is concerned (and soon Nexus10 which i'll be getting). But again Sky are missing the mark entirely.

And continue to do so...

Sent from a disillusioned Galaxy GT-i9300 running 4.1.1
[Android Apps and Games] smoothy666:
Well I've just started using cm10 on my sensation, there is no way in hell I'm going back to stock unrooted for the sake of sky go. Its a real shame. I was pissed before when waiting an eternity after iPhone for the app in the first place. When it does come out you can't use it for the main simple reasons I never got an iPhone . Crock of sheeeite
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Sky

Personally I did think Sky have any interest in getting Sky Go to work on more android phones or tablets, they are so tied in with Apple it's now beyond a joke and are only making their app ready for so few android devices as not to be taken to the Anti Competition people. I also think that Sky will get rid of Sky Go as it's not making them money and at the end of the day that is all Sky are interesting in doing. With NOWTV & SSTV now both out and running it is making more sense than ever as to why they sent out that survey several months ago and nobody has had any feed back from them. NOWTV app and SSTV app can both have 2 devices attached to them. I think both of those paid apps will be opened up to more android Phones and Tablets when they dump Sky Go IMO.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] Klaus4:
hmm

Does this mean that the App will only work un The UK or is there some roaming possible?
[Android Apps and Games] angusc:
if this app is like the bbc iPlayer then you can only get it to work if you are connected to a UK based server...... Think VPN.

Sent witH desire from One X
[Android Apps and Games] bombaybadboy:
This app isnt anything like bbc iplayer. It detects root on devices, password protected, only adapted to certain devices. Bbc iplayer will work on anything no questions asked :o
[Android Apps and Games] Klaus4:
so I only need a Uk Simcard with dataroaming?
[Android Apps and Games] bombaybadboy:
Not sure out of the uk for bbc iplayer. I have the apk in my sig dropbox under cm10 bits if you cant see it in the market if thats any use to you
[Android Apps and Games] Klaus4:
I tried to watch BBC Sports Message

"BBC Iplayer is not supported outside the Uk"
[Android Apps and Games] bombaybadboy:
I guessed as much just haven't been outside the UK for a while to no for certain