yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master One:
I am not really comfortable with the idea of sharing data with Google, so I wonder how it could be possible to run Android without the Google apps.

Using CM7 as the base for my devices (SE X10 mini pro & ZTE Blade) is already a good starting point, by not installing the GAPPS package.

But then what?

How to get apps from the market without GAPPS?

Which (offline) navigation software instead of Google Maps?

Which calendar app instead of Google Calendar?

Any other Google service replacement?

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokin1337:
You could probably use amazon appstore instead of market. The real market requires google's framework. As far as the calender i'm not sure look around on the amazon market for one.

Personally i would just use gapps what could you possibly be doing where the info google collects could hurt you ? They don't collect personal data like sms or phone calls. So unless you download child porn its prob ok to use google's apps. :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master One:
I am not thinking about anything illegal, but you can be identified by your (required) Google account, and once you enable data synchronization / localization service, or the background data submission required for using the Market, you are already deeply caught in the Google network.

I don't know about the Amazon Appstore. Does it feature the same apps as the Google Market? I guess not, and when I try to access it, it tells "The Amazon Appstore is only available to customers located in the United States.", so I don't think this is a suitable alternative anyway.

So the only real downside of not using GAPPS is access to the market. A possible workaround could be to use the Android emulator of the Android SDK to download apps, then package them up to APKs and copy them over to your mobile.

I am sure there are a lot of others which are not comfortable with Google as well, but do not want to surrender their Android phones.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokin1337:
If you just want the apps you can install them from your pc to your phone on the market website. If you don't have a Google account or want one at all maybe use 4shared to download them. You can also usually download them from the developers website.

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master One:
I am still testing the use of Android without GAPPS, but there are some issues I have no idea how to overcome:

There seems to be no suitable Calendar App that does not rely on the Google Calendar / synchronization with Google. My preferred app would have been aCalendar, which works kind of, but no appointment can be saved because it tells "You have no calendar". Any suggestions? How is the calendar issue solved on Android-without-GAPPS devices like the Kindle Fire?

Some apps simply can not be installed without the Google framework present. For example when trying to install the Adaffix and QR Droid apk's manually, it simply tells "Application not installed" without any error message pointing out the problem. Any idea about that?

These two issues are the main problems with having no GAPPS on the phone, and as much as I would have liked to run my Android phones without GAPPS, it seems there is no way around it, if one does not want to have it overly complicated. :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swukjay:
I have been using android for a few weeks now with no google account. Installing a firewall and lbe privacy seems to work fine. Just dont allow any google services access to the net. Works fine for me
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
I don't understand why you would by a Google OS but not want google apps.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master One:
UPDATE: Android without GAPPS is a go now!

Android is NOT really a GoogleOS, it's a Linux distribution with proprietary Google apps added. You can successfully run Android without Google, which is what Amazon already proofed with the Kindle Fire on a large scale.

I am not talking about running Android without Google account, but Android without GAPPS installed, and I am happy to confirm, that it is indeed possible without too much hassle, since I overcame my initially major issues:

The calendar issue could be solved by installing Jorte, which uses its own database.

I simply omit apps which rely on the Google Framework, so I replaced QR Droid with Barcode Scanner, and just deleted Adaffix, for which there is no replacement (not that much of a loss, especially since I was not really sure about their privacy policy; would you willingly submit the phone numbers of all your callers to a private company?).

I am going to use MapQuest instead of Google Maps, a free app based on https://www.openstreetmap.org

I already installed all my apps, which I previously downloaded from the Market, on that Google-free phone, in addition to AdFree, to get rid of the advertisement in the typical free apps, as well as AmazonAppstore (just in case). Now for my kind of use I don't miss any Google services at all.

The next logical step is to install the Android SDK on a computer, run Android 2.3 including GAPPS for Market access in the Android emulator, and just download all the desired software and software-updates there, to be exported (using ASTRO) to the Google-free phone.

Some may argue that it may not be worth the hassle, but I am still in the opinion, that it's best not to share ANY data with Google ever.

BTW Don't use Google at all, not even for simple searches -> have a look at https://duckduckgo.com (they even have an Andoid app)!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] randomchars:
Where to start?

Android is not a Linux distribution, it only uses a Linux kernel, these two mean vastly different things and should not be confused.

What exactly do you want to hide from Google?

Your email? It goes through dozens of servers without encryption. The only people not reading it are the ones who don't want to.

Your location? Your cell phone provider has it. And so does your government)

Your searches? Okay you're right on this one I use duckduckgo on my pc.

The point is that most of your data is tracked by hundreds of companies. They use your os and flash version, your cookies, user agent, screen resolution. You can run but you can't hide.

You're not on Facebook, are you?

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Never make the assumption that if you're not going anything illegal than you shouldn't worry about tracking. Never never never. Okay? If you do you don't deserve privacy. Read "little brother" by Cory Doctorow.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iwashere43:
For the calendar and the contacts i use to synchronise every day my Desire S with an old version of Lotus Notes (7.xx) on my Job computer. I use MyphoneExplorer with a USB connexion. It works very well without microsoft exchange or any connexion with google agenda.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master One:
From my point of view I consider everything based on the Linux kernel a Linux distribution. Android = Linux kernel plus a bunch of open source software, the proprietary Google code does not have to be considered to be part of the base system.

What I want to hide from Google? About everything. Isn't it the same with Facebook, where the user is not the customer, but the product?

Of course everybody leaves a large track in the net, but one can at least try to prevent data sharing as much as possible, and not using Google services and not providing them any additional info is part of it.

Of course that topic is mind splitting, but I know I am not alone on this, and as shown, it it indeed possible to successfully use an Android phone completely without Google, and I do not see any disadvantage in it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jago25_98:
Hope this helps:

http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-download-any-apk-to-your-computer-62153/

(apk leecher)

There are many other reasons for wanting to avoid Google. For example, let's say you have your contacts synchronized. You're using gmail and calendar and you have a card linked to your Google Play account.

You go on holiday and you card gets cloned. The criminal uses your card to do something horrendous and you wind up in jail. Because you had all your eggs in one basket your account has been disabled and your defense has no access to your emails to plan your case and defend you in court. You're utterly screwed.

By using different companies and services you at least have more chance of keeping access to those services.

Google services are pretty monolithic. They're great, but there's advantage in using separate services if you can.

Here are some alternatives to the Google apps:

- Gmail = K9mail

- Play = app leacher, sdk virtual image method. fDroid

- Maps = MapQuest. Various SatNav apps. Waze

- GTalk = Skype or Fring (though both of those aren't greatly done). Various SIP/VoIP apps like cSipSimple

- contacts = t9dialer?

- Goggles = any barcode scanner will do for me

- any others?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zzerozzero1:
I use f-droid.org .

It is strictly open-source. Has all the basic apps in there (Email, Firefox, tons of Timers, AlarmClocks, etc).

Of course ! Why not ? Facebook leaves you the choice what to upload.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haydent:
i agree with this thread, i dont mind sharing my information with companies, i do it all the time, but i dont like forced sharing with no opt out, this is essential stealing. eg ics and motoblur contacts

i guess you could say the opt out is to not install, which is what the thread is talking about :)

i think we are lucky to have android available without the gapps bloat such as with cyanogen mod
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] randomchars:
// Puts on tinfoil hat.

Sure kid. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haydent:
here's my fix http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1808037
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistermentality:
Actually facebook track you a lot. Use your browser to visit youtube and you'll see a share button for it just as many sites have now.

Facebook know a lot about where its members visit :eek:

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zzerozzero1:
LOL ...

You obviously don't agree. Which is fine.

But plz don't troll

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I have been using Ghostery and Adblock Plus for years. They should take care of that.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devwithzachary:
If your really worried about your privacy you should check out Orbot the Tor client for android (https://guardianproject.info/apps/orbot/)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidbaumann:
I will revive this thread, because I also install CM10.1 and try to use withoug GAPPS.

My phone is already running much smoother than with stock rom (Galaxy S3 I9300).

No Samsung push service, Google push, Calender...

So I am already using f-droid and androidpit now. At the moment I am missing Skype and Facebook Messenger.

I know worrying about privacy + using facebook might sound strange. But most friends I can only contact by Facebook (or SMS, lol), so I have to use it.

David.
[General Questions and Answers] varosp:
My first post and it´s to ask for help, I hope you understand me...

Well, I live in Korea and I have a wonderful SII HD LTE with LGU+ but after weeks searching every single forum on the Internet and can´t find how to unlock it.

I have even tried to root it with unlock root getting a message that the rooting process can´t be done.

So, I ask for help in order to unlock it and root it, because I travel a lot back and forth and I really need a SIM free terminal...

Hope you can help me, thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] apueb008:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bengigi.eyessaver

thought this was worth a plug here.

as if my rom didn't have max brightness tweaked already..

if your brightness isn't low enough on those latenight face in your phone sessions..

saves my eyes, and without any official testing, i would have to say that it dramatically increases battery drainage for a heavy user like me.

with that said, i got this thing on at all times ..

+1
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] colorado_al:
Try Screen Filter. Same thing. Free. Should save battery on an OLED screen.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.haxor#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLmhheG9yIl0.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BootOne:
Both of you should try RootDim. It uses super user rights to take brightness below android defaults.

As a new user I can't link to it. :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] apueb008:
nice, ill check it out..even though i already wasted a dollar! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stretchwookie:
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.pruss.superdim&hl=en
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Just tried rootdim for the first time. Gotta say I'm looking it so far. Thank you for the suggestion
[LG Optimus 2x] alvin.durant:
How long does your stock or extended battery last?

Please indicate your ROM , kernel, CPU settings and voltage and if it is stock or extended battery..

How long does it take to fully charge your battery and is it really necessary to fully charge the battery?

Coz i read some article at google that never to fully charge and discharged o2x or g2x battery..

Thanks! :D
[LG Optimus 2x] wayneace8888:
ROM: Android Revolution 1.9.1

Kernel: vadonka's CM7 Kang kernel [FEB17] ETaNa-REV1

Hi, i have a stock battery and lasts me anywhere from 10hrs to about 27hrs depending on usage, i usually let my battery run down to about 20% then fully charge because i too have also read somewhere that these batteries dont respond well to fully discharging, i must admit my battery life has increased since i stopped fully discharging, not sure of the reasons for why that would make a difference.
[LG Optimus 2x] langhaardack:
so far, my battery lasts 4-10hrs on daily use (music, some 3G, some 2G, texting) which depresses me a little (got my phone sth like 3 days ago, cant get my hands off it yet. ;))

im on a rebuild of stock v20l and guestekrnl v1.1. stock battery.

indeed you shouldnt completely discharge li-ion-batterys, but you can and should charge them to 100%. its also recommended to completely discharge the battery every 4-8 weeks, leave it like that for 5-6 hours and then fully charge it.
[LG Optimus 2x] snel76:
ROM: Temasek KANG 67

Kernel: ETaNa Kernel 22. Feb. I use the recommended setCPU Profiles from Vadonka with the predefined UV Voltages from the tweakaio.conf

Battery: Stock

Battery lasts from 14h to 2,5 days depending on usage. In normal usage (phoning, some SMS, little bit surfing, listen music) it lasts 20h to 1,5 days. Normaly i am on 2g, only aktivate 3g when needed.

This app may help:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=739530

About charging i recommend to read this:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=871051
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Around 5 to 6 hours. I have 3 batteries though.

I use my phone a lot.
[LG Optimus 2x] Thorbear:
rom: guestes goodbye rom 1.1

kernel: included gueste 1.1 kernel

with moderate use i get about 15h
[LG Optimus 2x] henkspank:
cyanogenmod 7.1 stable

stock rom

1 day battery on medium/normal use

when barely using it I should pretty much be able to reach multiple days on just 1 charge
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi langhaardack, I have no idea where you learned this was a good idea. But as you stated, completely discharging lithium ion batteries is VERY bad, and causes small but irreversible damage. Lithium ion batteries should be kept above 20% when ever possible. Ultimately, any damage caused by the user is moot because we ANDROID users can replace the battery for a few Pounds, Euros, or rupees, depending on your local currency.

In fact, a few weeks ago I bought an extended battery, 2400mAh for £13. It does make the slender O2X a bit fatter, but you can "cane" that sucker for 20+ hours of über heavy use. Normal usage will get you 48 hours without breaking a sweat.

I hope this is helpful. Back to the topic.

ROM ICS, stock kernel, with the display used for 2 hours, I get 8-10 hours on the stock battery.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] slartyxxx:
ROM: latest Nova HD (ICS)

Kernel: nothing changed, I've tried Setirons ICS Kernel, but together with Nova HD Rom my battery is out of juice maybe after half of the time as if I use NovaHD kernel.

BB: 0725 + proper V10 ril.

Still on stock battery, hav my phone for 13 months now.

With moderate use my battery lasts 15hrs.

Battery runtime on that model is so ****ing poor.. my girlfriends sgs2 is a lot smoother (maybe a main reason is the much RAM it has) and battery lasts ~2 days. My next phone will be HTC or Samsung. Never ever again LG. :/
[LG Optimus 2x] berni3893:
Hello i have cm9 and iron kernel

1315mghz Akku about 24 hours
[LG Optimus 2x] mascaras:
My battery lasts maybe 5 days.2G,some calls,photos.Stock 20Q+SPICA1234 Sr2.
[LG Optimus 2x] sandub:
Battery: Stock

Battery lasts from 14h to 2,5 days depending on usage
[LG Optimus 2x] Micronuub:
3 days and some hours

With HP performance pack and Gueste 2x ROM
[LG Optimus 2x] csunny95:
battery didnt drain much for 3g off standby. around 2hrs 1%

but draining fast for opening 3g, 3% 1hrs
[LG Optimus 2x] xdaslade:
Left house at 8:15am on full charge. Went back on charger at 1:30pm when battery was at 25%.

3G texting with Google voice

Surfing

Games (words with friends, homerun 3d briefly)

News

no phone calls

5.6k run recorded with GPS

Facebook

twitter

Download 2 or 3 apps

Temasek rom 71 as is and stock battery 1500mah
[LG Optimus 2x] AlanLi:
the battery only can use 8 hours,then will power off,i just sometime use my phone,so,the battery is not waste fastly

ps:i am hong kong people .my english is not well
[TouchPad General] Sakiwinkie:
So having updated to the newest version of FPSe and installing the newest version of the OpenGL plugin all games have slowed down to a crawl. I get about 20 fps in most games, some work ok. My question is, does this have to do with the fact that HW acceleration is not yet supported on the Touchpad or is it just too much for the Touchpad to handle? I would love to play my old PS games on the Touchpad and OpenGL looks lovely.

Games tested to work slow for me:

Spyro 1

FFIX

Dino Crysis 1

Games that run ok:

MediEvil 2
[TouchPad General] Unrealwolf:
OGL in FPSE is just too slow now, it's not a TP fault in that case, i guess. And it have NOTHING to do with the HW acceleration, since we already have it working, it's just the video codecs that are not working.
[TouchPad General] Sakiwinkie:
Thanks for the information. Yes it is my fault I mixed up video decoding and HW acceleration. It seems that we will just have to wait for it to be optimized more. If anyone has any tips on special settings for certain games, I would be appreciative.
[HTC Rezound] drewcam888:
The clock on my rezound is becoming off a hour constantly. If I take it off of network provided settings the time zone is wrong. I correct this and go back to network but it changes again. I am in Las Vegas which isnt really a border area. Any suggestions. It is rooted on stock rom
[HTC Rezound] GordoGuapo:
This happens frequently to me as well regardless of my setup. It occurred when I was unrooted/stock, on Scott's clean ROM and now I'm on Nil's Gingerbread.

It occurs on WiFi, 3G or 4G. The only way I've been able to keep it correct is to set it manually. Otherwise it shows me in the wrong time zone.

I've tried factory resets, clearing data, reflashing ROMs and it still intermittently happens.

Anyone have input on this?

From the Rez Beast
[HTC Rezound] PaulQ602:
Known issue. HTC and Verizon know about it. Only way to deal with it is to turn off automatic time keeping. No ETA on fix.

...Sent from my Tab
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stk2008stk:
Hi all my bro purchased an X10i from the bay and it came with a broken USB port so I cant even connect it to my PC.

The problem is I want to unlock it so I can use my Tesco SIM card and I all so want to update the software to 2.3.4.

Can this all be done with out USB say over WIFI?.

Thanks in advance.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XangFun:
Same x10 port problem!

My charger/usb port also does not work. Now im moving network it makes my x10 useless and nearly worthless to ebay!

I need to unlock it with a code only.....surely there must be a way!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XDroidie626:
u can remove Roots/ROMs without USB, but u cant upgrade as far as ino without one, i suggest sending it off, although am unsure on prices for repair as am on contract with mine so all is free xD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mtorre5:
Hello,

I have been using NoLED for a while and recently when I get 1 sms from someone it will say that I have 2 messages. Does anyone know why this is happening and a way to fix it? Thanks for all help!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sy7hf7tgtgrf:
Try unistalling it then install it.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mtorre5:
I have tried that previously but that did not fix it :mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dandrumheller:
I don't use noled, so guessing here...are you using stock sms app, or a third party one? If you have a third party messaging app installed, maybe noled is seeing notifications from both apps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Fredalone:
I have an HTC HD2 that I bought almost 1 year ago, and I couldnt have MMS ...

So, I will give some details and the person who helps me resolve this problem, receives 5€ via Paypal...

PROBLEM: HTC HD2 dont send MMS (Portugal / Vodafone)

I tryed every cab programs and IPs, codes, etc ( nothing )...

Before I broke this phone in half, I wanna know if someone can solve this BIG PROBLEM ( YES; BIG PROBLEM! ALMOST 1 YEAR WITH HIM AND I USE 2 DIFERENT CARDS IN 2 CELLPHONES! ONE IS THIS HTC =>doesnt work MMS but its great to save contacts and calls, sms, games, etc etc<=| AND THE OTHER IS LG=> that works with MMS<=| ).

By the way... its not the ORIGINAL HTC HD2... ITS FAKE version by CHINA people!

DETAIL: http://www.prlog.org/10804955-htc-touch-hd2-windows-mobile-65-quadband-dual-sim-card-gps-wifi-smart-phone-szsuffcom.html

In that link, you can see the detail of the phone...

versão do software (software version) : DUMA.10X.W10.20.P29

versão do hardware (hardware version) :Qualcomm 8250B

Good Luck!

Note: It doesnt have FLASH system...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pilot2k:
a wall waits for your chinese fake))))))
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
i'm planning on installing GLaDOS kernel today, and i'm currently running codename android.

if anything goes wrong, or i want to switch to another, how do i go back to the stock kernel.

Also, does a CWMR backup backup the custom kernel as well?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Peesashiz:
yes, the CWMR backups everything, including the kernel, so that would be your best bet
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
oh okay. so i could do a backup before i flash the kernel, and then if anything goes wrong, just restore that backup. correct?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jerrycycle:
Correct or to go even farther you can just restore that kernel only. In that advanced section on the restore menu, restore boot.img
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
very awesome. thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lambetts:
Great posts guys!

Question, is it best to reset the kernel every time change you change it? I've had some issues with kernels and this may be the problem.

I feel like in theory there's bits and pieces of things in there that I need to clean. Haha. What's the best way to do that?

Thanks in advance.