yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] squish099:
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade here, but I don't think that either of those will be of help (i could be wrong, has happened a time or too before.). My understanding is that every device prior to the amaze the s-off flag was written in the radio/hboot partition. On the amaze the s-off and s-on hboot are identical and that the s-off flag is located on a different partition, possibly by the size and hex values written to that partition. Unfortunately even with the partitions diffs ran by X and binary neither could find the partitions or the flag, just some interesting differences in a couple partitions...
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
This is strange. I've been gone for over a week and I come back and I am still on page 20 of this thread with last post I read still the same. Refresh doesn't help. Is this thread dead?? What happened????
[HTC Amaze 4G] Chance Ill:
No progress has been made. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like it will be either. :(

~~~L.T.P.F.J.~~~
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Binary's departure killed a lot of momentum of the Amaze. He was the most proactive of us.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Chance Ill:
I wouldn't say the most proactive, but he definitely had the contacts. Without the necessary drivers (S-off is not necessary, but its a plus) development will remain stagnant. It's frustrating as hell! :banghead:

~~~L.T.P.F.J.~~~
[HTC Amaze 4G] dullhunk:
u guys are not ready to accept someone replace binary, otherwise you couldn't even imagine where development could have been//
[HTC Amaze 4G] scstryfe:
I just sent 15 Euros to the device donation fund for the Revo guys. Hopefully we can get this going before the ICS update comes. :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] Opentang:
I'd be happy to donate more, we've just not received any update or communication that our contributions are going to support the Amaze.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
so that puts us at 415EU as I will be donating 50EU today (in a few minutes actually) I keep in touch with ieftm via IRC so don't worry, it's not so much that binary is gone, rather it's a matter of no one has been donating much lately... so we've kinda stalled on being able to get a device in the hands of the people who need it to do the deed... dig?
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
indeed, the departure of xboarder and Binary, has made this place a ghost town, even the NRGZ roms, and faux's kernel was all due to xboarder's efforts to boundy a phone for both of them...without him we would have almost nothing here, even the bulletless and senseless roms here are based on X's roms...

anyways...you can always find him at android-dev.us
[HTC Amaze 4G] dullhunk:
@benjamin, if u'll not keep the thread updated, people obv. will think there money has gone in vain..

so better keep this updated.. HOW MUCH MORE DONATION IS NEEDED??
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
ok well I just donated another 50EU as I stated I would earlier, so in no one else other than the guy I just quoted (in my previous post) has donated since my last update (350EU) then we should be @ 415EU which means if 10 people could donate 20EU (about $28USD) we'd be well in the territory needed for ief to purchase and have a device shipped to him...
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Just bought new bed. :D:(

Give me till my next non-mortgage check on the 15th and I will throw at least $50 if still needed. Sorry can't help sooner.

Thanks for stepping up bro
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
and just for the record I have been keeping it updated... but I don't post just to say, hey guys it's tuesday, we're still @ 415EU, do you know where your wallet is? If people want to donate, then do so, please post your donation amount in this thread even if it's 5EU/USD, so that the total donated can be known publicly...

sidenote: I'm enjoying my Amaze as-is though, running de-sensed Energy ROM and I'll be happy with that until we get official ICS... which I'm sure will bring new kernels (albeit a bit behind the ruu I'm sure)... and if we're lucky suckers, some source leaks/releases as well...

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no worries, I am quite aware this is no contest, I probably want this to happen, more than it's actually worth in reality... but whatever, I'll keep donating when my finances allow it...
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Donated $50 (37.70 Euros) for the cause.
[HTC Amaze 4G] wadill:
Hey guys,

I'm a sensation owner and my significant other has the amaze. Recently some good guys over there found a way to resurrect qsb_load bricks, usually caused by incorrectly reapplying s-on.

I think I can get the amaze 4g s-off with a hacked boot loader using this method.

Unfortunately the old lady will not let me risk her device, and the device needs to be bricked. so I ask this.... Is there any bricked amaze 4g's for sale cheap, or better yet anyone want to donate their paperwieght for the good of the community.

Check out the unbrick sensation dev thread by dexter for the details.

Basically a bricked phone can access emmc sometimes in Linux where a running phone can't. If you inject the correct information during the process you can install a cracked boot loader and in this case possibly attain s-off. This method is being used to downgrade loaders on the evo 3d and sensation.

It will take work but I'm willing to try. Problem is cracking the security in the radio.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
I dont think you will find a bricked amaze because as far as i am aware, you are unable to brick the amaze with s-on, only soft brick. Unless u are doing somethong to intentionally brick it im sure. But I hope we can get you a device thank you for coming over and sharing

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[HTC Amaze 4G] wadill:
Yeah I thought the bricked amazes would be scarce but I thought I'd throw this out there just in case.

If anyone has the balls or extra $$ or phone, you could intentionally brick one. But that is a huge risk. Although the first person to do this in the sensation bricked his on purpose over 20 times, to prove the fix.

It would take more than that to the fix it here though. We would have to modify the loader and probably the radio's configuration of write secure flag.

I actually am very confident in this technique though, and believe it should work for any Android device actually.

I'm no dev by any means but I think it can be done using this method. With the right support from people who can hex edit and fork some stuff up.
[HTC Amaze 4G] wadill:
But like anything no one knows for sure it works till someone safely can do it and safely tell others. Someone may have tried already I dunno.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
Wadill you are badass man! I will scour the internet and find you one. And maybe people here will put money torward it for you :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] wadill:
thanx just trying to throw some ideas around. After being able to downgrade sensations and evo 3ds we should be able to put xboarders eng boot loader in and use fast boot commands to write secure flag. That's kinda where I'm heading first with this.

And you guys don't have to get me the phone. I think a couple people with the nerve and the means could test it out. Of course this is risky and would love to try on a bricked phone first. That way if it doesn't work for some reason no one lost their phone. Otherwise we will have to intentionally brick one to see if Linux can write to the emmc through qsb_load mode.

Ultimately if everything were to work out we create a script program just like revolutionary that bricks, then installs the loader and s-off. All in a single program (just like revolutionary).

Of course this process could be a lot harder than I can handle but Dexter and those guys weren't devs either really they just kept trying until they figured it out.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I think ietfm (sorry if misspelled) of Team Revolutionary is at like £465 in donations for him to get an Amaze. Whatever hasn't been donated by Apr 15, I will donate to get him the phone (unless its donated before). Maybe you can discuss this with him, or someone can get him to follow this thread?
[HTC Amaze 4G] gypsy214:
X amaze don't work anymore. He wiped all the partitions. Everything. He is getting another amaze in a couple of weeks. But. Well we all hate that the only eng s-off amaze. Is gone.
[HTC Amaze 4G] RussianBear:
the way the sensations and evos have been bricked is "special." by corrupting the hboot, the phone would enter a special recovery mode (we dubbed it the emmc mode) that allowed a linux or in some cases even a windows pc to see the phone as a disk drive, thereby allowing us to inject pretty much anything into it, since the write protection was off (the protection is on for the first 32mbs, however). that's how the idea of injecting a stock hboot came about. that's when fuses wrote his automated linux based tool.

There are many other types of qhsusb_dload bricks out there that were not caused by incorrect s-on application and that do not appear to enter the emmc mode. Hence, getting any kind of bricked amaze won't do you any good, unless you really know what you're doing.

Lots more research is needed at this point. Feel free to chip in with your time :) Feel free to join our irc channel.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
yes, we are fairly close to the mark needed to actually have a device purchased and shipped... just a few more "decent" donations from people and we may be there by the end of next week, would be nice if some of those that pledged to donate when s-off was achieved to step up and donate now if they can... we're pretty close, and in the hands of revolutionary team I'm pretty sure s-off would be right around the corner...
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Well, it actually might already be around the corner

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1526316

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[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
That would be sweet if the method you posted ends up working, since we do fit the requirements.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
maybe I just don't understand, but what does this have to do with s-off?
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Its not properly reading the hboot version we have on our phone, so it probably isnt gonna work anyway

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[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Nothing. The last few posts in that thread says it all. :/

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Well I've actually already matched my pledge of $100 through donations. Like you said though, hopefully some of the others will step up.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
even if it was, I thought it's been determined that s-off is NOT in the hboot on our phones... again, I don't have a photographic memory, so it may be that I am not remembering correctly... I apologize if this is the case...
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
I must have missed that. I had it in my head that it was still associated with the hboot

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[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
well I already donated half my $100 pledge to JuopunutBear and will donate the other half once the exploit is public, I hope the rest of the pledges (and some that kept silent) will make good on their word!
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
I'm just waiting. Got my finger ready to click pay.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
Wouldn't it suck for globatron and fuses if some random person just jumped in with a working s=off? Lol :D

They would get to collect the bounty :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Ill set up a donate link and once everyone donates to me ill release my method :D.... Lol

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[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
You should have sent this out on April Fool's Day! :rolleyes:
[HTC Amaze 4G] scstryfe:
So, should we be sending our pledges from this thread to J-bear? Sorry, not been following dev for a month and cone back to see his S-Off post and not much happening here. I guess the Revolutionary team got my device $$ for nothing...

Can someone who's current on situation clarify things for me? (and I'm sure others) Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] ickedmel:
Just wait for an official release, then donate money all the information will be there. I'm sure you can't be that anxious to give away money.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Bronyr:
J-bear's done it. Congrats J-bear! Worked on the first try.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Donation sent ($100)!
[HTC Amaze 4G] hnt20:
my donation sent (20$)
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
I fulfilled my pledge also.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
I really didn't understand why we would have people send partial donations over to revolution.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
the reasons donations were sent to revolutionary team was to obtain a device so they could attempt to get s-off... it was fully understood (I hope) that revolutionary may or may not be the ones to actually obtain s-off, but as it seams members of unlimited team are also members of revolutionary, and IEF, hyuh and others had direct involvement and are part of both teams, I don't think anyone's money was "wasted"... and I hope that's not what you're suggesting...
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
I didn't donate to the cause because I believed I'd rather send it to someone who actually obtained S-OFF and released the method.

From what I can recall, I don't think enough funds were donated to actually obtain a device.

All in all, congrats to globatron & fuse! You guys fully deserve all incoming donations.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
As soon as that paycheck comes in. ill send my money over. great work guys.:D
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I bombed at work last month so my commission check sucked this month. I'm beasting this month so you'll get at least my pledge if not more mid May.

Sorry for delay, but it will be there. Thanks guys. I will try eventually :)

Sent from my HTC Amaze running Sense 3.5
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
what I'm saying is, that those who DID DONATE to the device fund, did not donate in vain, this project would've taken much longer to come around if it wasn't for IEF and others from revolutionary team... as far as I can tell revolutionary/unlimited are pretty much interchangeable, with a couple new faces is all =) but we are blessed by every single one of their graces... haha...
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
What he ^^^ said.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Glacier Guy is good for at least $50. Good luck to all devs that attempt. Hopefully they can somehow all work together and put great brains together.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Jimczyz, me, I'm good for another 50.00
[HTC Amaze 4G] realitysconcierge:
20.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frostyroot:
I'm gonna volunteer in this s-off search. I'll risk my Amaze, have insurance :D

The thing about HTC devices are getting through the encryption to the NAND.

*IF* I do find a way to achieve this, I will finally get to name an s-off method with my username!

Give me a week guys, I'll try to make it really simple (one-click root method). ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Well I've been using the THANKS button to keep track of those that contributed so I don't calculate their pledge twice but it appears that I'm limited to 15 a day. I'll 'thank' you later.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jonathancano:
Great Idea!!!!

I'll give what I can... Put me down for a $25.00! Possibly more later...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Gotcha. Thanks!

Alright guys so in less than 24 hours we raised

$813

in pledges. Not too bad in my opinion. I guess you all really want S-OFF.

Everyone is more than welcome to check my match too just in case I forgot to carry a one somewhere.

Plus someone might change their pledge later so feel free to double check.

Also I had sent an e-mail to a member of Revolutionary with the link to this thread. He/she hasn't been online in almost a week so don't count on a response anytime soon though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xndabox:
I pledge 25 dollars, every bit counts.
[HTC Amaze 4G] scstryfe:
I'm in for $20! Let's get the development moving over here like on the Sensation. This device is too good hardware wise to stagnate like this...

And big thanks to Binary for getting this moving in a positive, development driven way. Most devs love a challenge, especially one that earns a few bucks.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
A few bucks ? More like almost a thousand lol jk

This is what the xda community is all about, we love our devices and im glad were all taking a positive step in the right direction!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Added to the total guys.

Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
So for once I have some good news!

Recognized Developer and better known as member of Team Revolutionary ieftm seems to be interested in helping us with S-OFF!

Of course this means that he needs to get a phone in hand.

We can do this one of two ways.

We can get a volunteer to risk sacraficing their own device to get s-off. Keep in mind that the device will NOT be compensated if damaged or lost in the process and will be at your own risk! It will need to be shipped to Netherlands.

We can donate to ieftm so that he can pay the full price for the device. This is what I would recommend personally.

If you would like to donate directly to Team Revolutionary do so by clicking the link in ieftm's signature.
[HTC Amaze 4G] commandersafi:
I'm getting an error "Sorry — your last action could not be completed" when clicking the paypal donate link
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Okay then click on his profile then the link in his signature.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
When doing these types of donations, does anyone ask to use their upgrade to get a discounted price on the device? May help accomplish bounty sooner if the phone is 1/2 price. Just a thought
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
I will donate $100 towards the device as soon as I get paid.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Donated $34 us= 25 euros to IEFTM for S-off pledge amaze device

Confirmation number: 4BT61984XR324090K
[HTC Amaze 4G] hamza arbeed:
€50.00 For s-off amaze device

Confirmation number: 0KV26490RY545114G

HA!:cool:
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
donated $30 ($22.75 Euros).

C# 9KP641597Y6320308
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
just so I know when I am able to, are you guys donating directly to ieftm, or to revolutionary team?
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
I just went into his profile and clicked on the "Paypal donation" link.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
One in the same- As I understand he is part of the team
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
He is part of the team... I don't know how many people are on the team but he's been the person that I've been in contact with. I'm sure he's not going to object to receiving the donations. :p

If he has a better recommendation to donate then he is always welcome to correct us in here or in the other S-OFF thread.
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Hey binary was just thinkin, maybe you should add this to the OP, since u and i both know there are so many of those who do not read through all the comments so they wont see this...

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[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Come on people we need some more donations
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Hey you guys can someone explain clearly for this thread is for? I know s-off and etc but for what are pledges

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[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
The pledge is you promising to donate whatever amount u post to whoever figures out how to get s-off. Its basically a way to motivate devs to try and achieve it

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[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
You're absolutely right. Done!

Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mo976:
Kinda Poor...

another 10$ here
[HTC Amaze 4G] Grooveoriented:
Every little bit helps!

20 Euros donated here ($27.15 USD)

Conf #: 4SF5267342187405E
[HTC Amaze 4G] sanchitgrover:
GUYS BEFORE YOU GUYS JUMP ON ANY CONCLUSION / donations

please have a look at this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1511391
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
ok, just donated 75EU ($102) to ief @ revolutionary team. didn't get paid yet, but got my tax "refund"... lol...
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
Damn ur refund must have been waaaaaaay better than mine :-( haha

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[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
unlike a lot of people I know, I look FORWARD to the day I have to PAY taxes, cause that means I'll actually be earning some damn money... hopefully when that day comes I'll be makin' epic sammiches for the locals and blastin' some heavy tunes in my little cafe... while reminiscing the days when you actually had to hold a phone in your hand and use your fingers to tell it what to do... lolz
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Yeah I already issued you an infraction for it too because what you were suggesting is highly illegal and will definitely get XDA in trouble for it.

Ummm... okay.
[HTC Amaze 4G] nevrlow:
Im throwing $10

Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Alright, I got yours and crystalangel's $25 that was pm'd to me.

Thanks!

We're pretty much at $1,000 and that's not counting the money that was already donated. Unfortunately I don't know how much actually was.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Shouldn't they be kept separate? One is for the phone and the other for the "reward" for success?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Well I'm not starting a third thread for s-off.

I'm hoping he will reply in here with a total from time to time.

Besides... there is no chance that the entire pledge will actually be donated after s-off anyway. Not trying to be negative or anything but it's just how it always works. We'll be luck to get 25% of the total pledge. Okay... maybe that's kinda negative. :rolleyes:
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Well, I guarantee my pledge. I've donated all over XDA when I can since the days of my old G1. I hope everyone else keeps their pledge also
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I'm hopeful too but having inside information as a moderator and seeing issues like these from time to time you can't blame me for my pessimism.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fuego77:
I'm pretty sure most of us will follow up on our pledges. I pledged 15 cause that's all I can afford right now. And we seem to have some pretty humble amaze owners :).
[HTC Amaze 4G] Grooveoriented:
Does the $1000 number include the donated amounts? I'd figure they would be separate due to the fact that pledges are "theoretical" dollars and donations are hard funds - pledges for S-Off and donations to Revolutionary.

It's a high risk/high reward situation donating for a phone, but Team Revolutionary has proven success. I'd say someone with "inside information" should fill us in on the best option.

Feel like I'm always getting myself into hopeless situations... Ha!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22861847&postcount=57
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Yeah it might be best we think of a legit way to make this happen. I think really, all of these people wanting s=off, one of them has to have an additional line due for an upgrade. Why won't someone that doesn't need an upgrade (since they have the amaze) buy it at upgrade price (~$270) and sell it to a bounty for $350?. They make $80 and the bounty saves (~$250-300)? I really think that's a darn good idea.

Then maybe team revo cam work with X who has an S=off device and Binary. If anyone can make it happen, you would think it would be those guys
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
You guys need to stop with these suggestions to break the law and break forum rules. If you want to "lose your phone" then do so without using the forum as a reference! I don't want to hear about it! I don't want to read about it!

Your d@mn right I gave you an infraction because you were encouraging others to do so. That was the entire purpose of your thread! :mad: I will NOT sit back and watch as members of this community plot to break the law, encourage and commit insurance fraud as HTC and mobile phone providers (also members of the forum) is reading all of this!

Keep up these discussions and I'll start locking these threads down! Guess what will happen if I lock this down? No more pledges! I would rather us never get s-off than to have this into a thread that encourages illegal activity begging to be sued! :mad:

Keep in mind that if we get a C&D from HTC or any insurance company I WILL NOT HESITATE to provide e-mail address and IP address for those that even mention any illegal activity to the prosecuting parties.
[HTC Amaze 4G] krook6023:
100% agree with Binary, this is common sense. We all want s-off, but let's keep it legit.