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[Android Apps and Games] Sinbad_NI:
Yeah that's the only thing that will give them a kick, i.e. when people start leaving and giving this as the reason and hopefully it filters down to the correct decision makers who very obviously aren't android focused in any way.
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
The T3 awards to Nexus 7 were sponsored by Sky News and not Sky and Sky News is nothing to do with Sky. There you go that's the reply from Sky, the same 1 they have used before about Sky Oz, Sky Germany, Sky NZ , Sky Italia and Sky Arabia, bit odd that as they all show up on BSKYB balance sheet et al. So once again sit in the corner and shut up.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] StuMcBill:
<This might sound a bit out there - and I have no developer experience but I just wondered if something like this was possible>

Would it be possible to run an the needed version of Android, in a "Virtual Machine" within Android so that when the Sky Go app is running, it will report the necessary Android version and "non-root" status to the Sky servers so we could use the app?

Would something like that be at all possible?

Cheers

Stewart

Edit - Basically Emulating Android on Android!!
[Android Apps and Games] LarsenB:
'Out there' as in piracy?
[Android Apps and Games] jdpenfold:
Piracy? Running a VM isn't piracy neither would be running a free app within it!

Cicumventing skys over the top protection is a good thing!

My biggest issue with sky is not allowing me to use hdmi out on my galaxy note. They haven't found a way to stop pc's using hdmi output, but if they do there will be an even bigger outcry than from the android community.

Sky won't change their view on android so the only way forward is to hack or bypass security if possible.

The only pirates I see here are sky, plundering the pockets of subscribers.
[Android Apps and Games] LarsenB:
Er yeah. A free app that's bound by a user agreement and terms and conditions.

Or maybe Sky should just come out with a guide on how to circumvent their own systems?
[Android Apps and Games] mcdevtingz:
I managed to sign in using test apk but could not load any channels. Not even news. It stuck at 0%, am rooted also.

Its amazing how quickly this thread caught on, progress is rapid!
[Android Apps and Games] devil666x:
Is that just free channels or paid for as well? Do you have custom rom and root?

Mine only lets me view free channels so far.
[Android Apps and Games] farreli:
Hi, you state non comparable and unrooted is easy, can you help a guy out and explain how?

Sensation xl stock gingerbread.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] shortylfc:
FYS is definitely "unrooting" my sgs2 as titanium backup says its not rooted when I open it but still nothing but sky news :(
[Android Apps and Games] Slimboball:
My Titanium also doesn't work, do the root hiding must work.

Titanium also doesn't work when I restore root with the app.
[Android Apps and Games] lufc:
root explorer is at r/o after setting the fix
[Android Apps and Games] eastonfr:
Same here!
[Android Apps and Games] redmongoose:
Same here on Galaxy Nexus :(
[Android Apps and Games] lukeyboymac:
Test APK working on my xperia play, stock software.

Premium channels as well. Good work.
[Android Apps and Games] Slimboball:
Titanium showing root again now, so app does restore root after hiding root.
[Android Apps and Games] ItsTobias:
but OTA unrooter does remove root and still doesnt fix the issue, so maybe trying a combo of both of them? might do the trick ;) I dont have skezza's version so cant test this theory
[Android Apps and Games] shortylfc:
My titanium works fine after pressing "better get hacking again" so the app seems to be sorting out the root/unroot side of things... could it be my custom ROM? VillianROM 3.0
[Android Apps and Games] farreli:
How do I get the test AOL and I will try on sensation xl?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Slimboball:
They both seem to do the same thing, you can hide root with one & restore it with the other & vice versa.
[Android Apps and Games] ItsTobias:
odd that OTA works on the nexus then and skezza's app doesnt work :S
[Android Apps and Games] simmersice:
Go back to page 13 works on original galaxy tab running froyo thanks to gumbold for posting
[Android Apps and Games] spackmc:
I know that a great deal of work goes in to these hacks but would it not be better to leave the root issue alone? I know that lots want to use the app but if Sky discover what's going on could they pull the app?

It's one thing making the app work on other devices other than listed but one of the reasons some content providers stay away from Android is the whole rights issue and DRM.
[Android Apps and Games] mcdevtingz:
Sky must have new this would have happened. Rooting is huge on android, you can't deny all these people the content.
[Android Apps and Games] redmongoose:
Yeah, I have tried loads of combos of the two but no luck yet :(
[Android Apps and Games] kirkkillick:
Just want to say thanks for all the work your putting in to this and its only day 1.

Tested on rooted LG optimus 3d loads but no videos at all

Advent Vega tablet rooted honeycomb loads but error message when loading video

Orange San fransisco rooted loads and starts sky news but error message.

Just a suggestion... any thing to do with the video player that may help? like if there was a player out there that replaces the stock player as thats what it looks like its using with some thing that stops the copy right managment?

worth a shot in the dark.

keep up the good work guys
[Android Apps and Games] slvrarrow:
But we're all paying customers, and you have to be to use the app. The only reason there are any restrictions is because sky cant be arsed developing for all devices/versions of android. Should be nothing wrong with trying to get it to work, when its an advertised feature of the sky package that cuts certain customers out for no reason other than sky cant be bothered.
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Or maybe they should play fair with their loyal customer's... I have been with sky since the analogue days 2nd person I knew with sky, think of the money they have had from us, the thanks I get? Zero because I refuse to buy an overpriced over rated inferior Apple product...

What you doing here anyway?

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] LarsenB:
'SELECTED ANDROID PHONES'

Whether that be 100 phones, or just a Nexus thats been left to rot on ICS... that is all they promise unfortunately. Its a battle that's been fought and lost. If it hurts so bad i can recommend Ebay for selling your device.

The only thing that will change their views is the increasing market share of Android. And hopefully the progressing quality of handsets allows for Sky Go now to work easily/ better on even medium spec devices - which seemed the issue last year. Processors and screen resolutions are have become more capable and easier to work with.

This should come in to their thinking at some point. *should*

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The op is months out of date. This is a free for all until the thread is closed?

Edit.

And because I am up to date - I have never had Sky Go on my phone since the day it was released. But I bought my phone in June with my eyes wide open to Sky's inabilities.

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[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Sky are no longer interested in their loyal customers and their wishes or wants, nope they have our money and that's it, we should be seen and not heard. The best bit is that on their NOW TV app page it tells you how to watch on your TV via a cable from your device, Unbelievable to be honest and it's more than ever now that Sky are not interested in the Android platform per sa and hence the reason for selected android phones to keep the anti-competitions committee off their backs. I see they have updated their WiFi cloud app to Jelly Bean compatible

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] StuMcBill:
No I didn't mean piracy - I meant "Out there" in terms of being possible?
[Android Apps and Games] serpicoUK:
Does anyone know if it's possible to watch sky go using the hdmi lead through my samsung galaxy s2?
[Android Apps and Games] daz_2000:
I've handed in my 31 days notice to sky, fed up of this not being available, so im throwing my toys out the pram to make a fuss. Suggest others do the same, otherwise sky will never hear our voice.
[Android Apps and Games] wombatwilson:
Already cancelled and got a call yesterday from an advisor asking why she didn't sound to surprised when I told her i cancelled due to both my android devices not being able to use sky go.
[Android Apps and Games] Simon_WM:
Does this work on the HTC One X ?
[Android Apps and Games] nicholaschan24:
Yes of course. Just use your HTC one x to call up sky and cancel your subscription, letting them know that sky go does not work on your phone
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
I though I would show a reply from Sky asking why Android Tablets are not going to be supported on Sky Go, this is not from the forum but Sky :---

CNET UK Hey Paul, Sky just got back to us. Nothing new, I'm afraid. Here's their quote: “We’re always keeping the smartphone and tablet market under review so that we can satisfy as many of our customers as possible. While we aim to distribute our content as broadly as possible, we do need to prioritise our development activity in line with customer demand. Therefore as and when devices reach scale within the Sky customer base, we focus our development work on them.”

Basically, Sky doesn't think Android tablets are important enough to bother spending money on.

Yesterday at 11:09am

Make of it what you will.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] tommo123:
i knew someone who canx the TV due to this but kept the broad band. they ended up pirating the TV shows instead, copying onto the phone and watching at their leisure.

good move, pushing your customers to piracy.
[Android Apps and Games] AdzUK:
I was gonna ring up and cancel my Sky subscription today... until I remembered we get it all free anyway. My bro works there PT so we get all the channels, movies, sports, in HD plus multi-room for free. You are allowed up to 4 boxes in the house, we currently have 3. I will make sure we get a 4th box just for the sake of it and then get them to come out and install it, because that's also free. When he leaves I won't be giving them a penny, I'd rather cancel it all and get one of 'them boxes' if I must.

Sky can go **** themselves as far as I'm concerned. I gave up and stopped following this thread ages ago, thought I would come back for an update to see if anythings changed. I'm now on a Note II (such an awesome phone) rooted with the latest Jelly Bean... Sky Go please? Haha. I'll come back for another update in a few months time. Good luck if anyone out there is still tryna hack this POS app... :good:
[Android Apps and Games] shayind4:
I use Slingplayer for my Jelly bean nexus. It beats both Sky go and samsung smart view messing up.
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Great! Providing you have a slingbox which clearly we have not or would be using it mate...

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] alezas:
News for ICS version?
[Android Apps and Games] Willie_Heckerslyke:
For me, when I got my S3 and rooted it, it was mainly for the battery saving features you could use by doing so (after having a HTC Desire previously, it was pretty much a 'must have' choice!)

However, after running it for 5mths or so rooted, I realised the battery drain was no longer an issue on the S3! As long as I can get through a full days use (away from home) which was ALWAYS the case for me - I'm happy. So I decided to unroot.....

I've been able to use Sky Go on it 'trouble free' since unrooting about a month ago. Sky have been dragging their feet about supporting JB, but I had one of those online 'chat' sessions with a Sky rep the other day, and he confirmed that JB was going to be supported on their currently supported devices "before christmas".....though he didn't say which christmas!!

I think I'd miss it now tbh, so I'm gonna hang on until it's officially supported by Sky before upgrading..... TBH though, I'm quite happy with ICS anyway, so it's no big hardship ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Hyflex:
Not 100% strictly true, because I've been a customer for 12 years and my sky box just died last week, I called up and said I wanted a free box as I'm a loyal customer the first guy said they can't do that so I said I'll cancel and then he put me through to cancelation department who was a British guy and he said he'll give me a Sky+ HD box for free (RRP: £299), with a £5 installation fee (Usually £60) and and Sky Anytime Wireless Adaptor for £9.99

However, when it comes to Sky Go and Sky+ yeah they're lacking massively and don't care.
[Android Apps and Games] LarsenB:
A lovely story.
[Android Apps and Games] leaskovski:
To be fair, a sky hd box you can usually get for free if you ask, and the wireless dongle only cost £9.99 on their website anyway.

:D
[Android Apps and Games] wolfboy1984:
New Sky/iPad advert is astonishing. The Sky/Apple love-in makes me ****in sick. Nexus 10 ****s all over iPad. We can expect support never. ****s.

Especially when you consider this... http://pulse.me/s/eXJrP

When will Sky accept these numbers mean their customers requiring more compatibility for latest (more than capable) Android devices??
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Lol had to think twice to replace the dots.. Sat in the pub, not watching SkyGo the..... rs

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Sadly it looks like they never will and when you bull sh1te on their website you can see why. I've never known a CEO who tells so many lies:--

Super-serving customer

We never forget that customers always have a choice. That's why we aim to provide great-value products which meet their needs and to back this up with excellent customer service.

"At Sky, our motivation doesn't come from winning awards or being first to offer a new technology. It comes from our commitment to give customers a set of products which meet their needs better than anyone else, to help them to get the most from their subscription and to provide exceptional customer service."

Just some of what their CEO has written for Sky's Annual Review 2012. The full thing is here and it paint's Sky as Gods et al but alas as we know very little is true in it but it does look nice lol

http://annualreview2012.sky.com/Default.aspx

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] daz_2000:
Has anyone used splashtop and sky go? How does it work?
[Android Apps and Games] lilvfr400boy:
It's ok when on 60 mb fibre bb, over 3g or hdspa is not even worth considering
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Wankers

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
I wonder when the penny will drop with Sky over Apple products??? Last Thurday UK GovT. brought in a new open source approach to it's IT for all departments in the UK, Out went their contract with Apple (They are not happy, Wonder if they will SUE lol) and in came a new one that will end up saving £millions of our money as they are no buying better tablets, laptops et al.

Then this:--

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/48289/no-ipad-mini-queue-walk-in

So it look's like maybe the Apple bubble has gone "BANG" lol but not for Sky.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] rozel:
Hi guys

I was an early adopter of the skygo test apk's and for ages got my rooted Galaxy S2 working. I then updated to an early version of ICS and it still worked, even though the Firmware then was unrooted - a Stock firmware (4.0.3). I used the app for a few months after which it refused to work but I had other issues to sort out.

Today I have updated my phone to ICS 4.0.4 again using a Stock XEU firmware.

Whatever I try to do I cannot get the app to open. The screen goes black and after about 30 secs an error message pops up saying SkyGo has encountered a problem.

When I downloaded the official SkyGo app - it installs ok but when it opens a different message unfolds - "Sorry your phone is rooted so p*ss off".

If SkyGo works officially on unrooted phones, why am I getting this message with unrooted firmware?

Just curious guys
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
This app was blocked by Sky at the last update of the Official Sky Go app, They were not happy that the guys on here made them look like plebs. If your phone is rooted then sorry no chance of it working yet again sky have blocked it.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] clait:
any chance for the italian versions to be fixed?

i can't believe sky's being such an ass about that. they're promoting your chance to choose what to see but not on WHAT device.
[Android Apps and Games] rozel:
My phone was originally unrooted (obviously :) ) it was then rooted just before I upgraded to ICS. Since I upgraded to ICS it has been unrooted.

So I ask again: -

"If SkyGo works officially on unrooted phones, why am I getting this message with unrooted firmware?"
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Is your phone on the supported list, can't see it?

Int

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[Android Apps and Games] rozel:
Not sure why you are asking this - I said in my post earlier I am using a Galaxy S2. Anyone else please?
[Android Apps and Games] wolfboy1984:
You still have any root apps installed? It may be picking up something...

Also, is SkyGo now recognizing 'modified' status in settings >about phone?? Just wondering. Obviously 'triangle away' will fix.

Dunno as I haven't been near the c*** spawned app in months.
[Android Apps and Games] shayind4:
I have just restored my rooted galaxy S2 to stock rom gingerbread today ( but wiped everything---data/cache) and OTA updated to ICS. I was able to install both sky go and samsung smartview from googleplay. They both work well. I think unrooting your phone after rooting it before ICS upgrade did not remove all root trace. You need a full wipe, restore to stock gingerbread then upgrade to ICS before installing sky go.
[Android Apps and Games] rozel:
Thanks for that - I believe you are right. I have never wiped my phone since rooting, having upgraded with Stock Roms. Oh well never mind - it was good whilst it lasted :)
[Android Apps and Games] wolfboy1984:
The media in general/ Sky management would have you believe iPads account for >90% of the market.

Actually it is this... http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...05/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

It is only going to go down too once Nexus 10 is out in Q4. Android dominance will SOON happen in the tablet market (As it has already in phones.)

Please wake up Sky devs/ management. Support the half of your customers with the LATEST non Apple devices.
[Android Apps and Games] shayind4:
Got a zip file(italian) from another forum, converted it to apk and installed it on galaxy tab 10.1. It works but unable to login with UK details.

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The problem is you need a full wipe, install stock gingerbread rom, OTA update to ICS then install skygo from googleplay. It will work fine. It did for my galaxy S2.ICS 4.0.4 . The phone was previously rooted.
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Very nice to see that Sky have got 1 over on Stuff Magazine who have reported in an article they have done on Sky Go where Sky have told them there has been no complaints about Sky Go. lol.

Sky Go may not matter soon if Virgins Anywhere app works out how Branson wants it to.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] rozel:
I just wanted to update my original post because, this morning, I have got SkyGo to work on my phone.

I cleared my phone's Cache in "Recovery Mode" and deleted a few apps which related back to when I was rooted. I think it was the former which did it. I still haven't "Wiped" my phone and really do not want to do so. I am using Sky's official app - SkyGo v 2.0.2.

Hope this may help someone if they have once been rooted but now are not and the app doesn't work.
[Android Apps and Games] hshah:
I don't think there is an Android version of Virgins application.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Correct it's coming out early 2013 and if the indications are right it's going to suck Sky Go up and out the door if Sky keep to their stance. Why Sky are doing what they are to it's UK customers is beyond me but they have a lot of angey people around

Sky Go Germany has HD channels

Sky Go Italy has HD channels, Some channels work on jailbroken/rooted devices and Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 8.9 work and can be used.

Sky Go Arabia has only HD channels and works on Android Tabs ipads et al, on ICS and Jelly Bean OS.

Yet Sky Go UK can get anything working as it's hard and takes about 6-12 months testing lol

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] sundials:
The problem with the argument that Virgin Media will be launching an app are,

1, A huge percentage of the UK cannot receive Virgins TV services, ergo because they don't subscribe they won't be eligible to use the Virgin app. Just like Sky.

2, As Virgin buys nearly all of its broadcast material from Sky then no doubt it will be tied by the same BS DRM issues that Sky Go has.

Basically don't go pinning all your hopes on Richard Branson. If he really wanted to compete properly with Sky he would have begun laying Fibre cable to more areas in the country. For a long time Virgin have only installed new cable to New build properties and have no plans to change soon.
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
If everyone who reads this tweets @SkyHelpTeam it might help. This isn't about rooting, Ask them about support for a device that isn't currently supported, or an OS update that has stopped it working.
[Android Apps and Games] bluudolphin:
Tweeted :good:
[Android Apps and Games] VFRHawk:
HDMI out

Did anybody ever find a solution to getting the Sky Go app to allow HDMI out?

Graham
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Tech sites are starting to ask question of sky at long last:

http://www.stuff.tv/news/phone/news-nugget/why-sky-go-isn’t-on-android-jelly-bean-yet

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...lly-bean-before-christmas-one-x-first-1111930

still the same old BS but it's something. Sorry I don't use Twitter.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] Camel Chops:
Great news but I won't hold my breath.
[Android Apps and Games] wolfboy1984:
In the US meanwhile... HBO GO has already been updated for 4.2 on the Nexus10. (HD too BTW)

Sky UK are a ****ing joke.
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
No matter what Sky are sticking to their guns and nothing is going to shift them now and as they have a new mantra to work with it say's it all. The new mantra is "Everybody else is at Fault", they have even blamed Samsung for pushing JB not long after they updated Sky Go to ICS with this "This is a prime example of the issues our teams face with the Android platform. We successfully released Sky Go to the Ice Cream Sandwich platform, only for Samsung to update these to Jellybean"..

So everybody now has to follow Sky's example as they are right and everybody else is wrong. I hope they go the same way as Apple £millions wiped off their value over this.

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
Cancel your sky subscription, blame Sky Go, install XBMC and certain add-ons, watch everything to your hearts content for free.

That's what they want, right?
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Well I've got rid of a lot of packages and only have what I use most, when on the phone doing this I was asked the normal of why am I doing this and so I told them the reason was Sky's Stance on Android only to be told really we support 9 handsets but when I used the swear words "Android Tablets" I was given the usual spiel that we all know is wrong and then to top it off he went into a sales pitch about how good apple products are fully supported on Sky Go and that I should buy an ipad as there are more great things to come for the Apple platform soon. I decided not to say anything.

iechyd da