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[General Topics] xaccers:
What? Plausible for HP to say "Oooo you really need to keep WebOS going for us because maybe in some twisted mirror universe Google will make Android closed source and only available on Motorola"

That's all that has happened. HP have said something stupid about Android.

The article even points out WHY Google wouldn't make Android closed source and only available on Motorola.
[General Topics] spunker88:
It may be a good talking point for WebOS, but it's not going to happen. They would have to make Android closed source in order to make it exclusive to Google/Motorola. And since the source is already out there, non Motorola OEMs could continue development on their own or abandon it and go with something else like Windows Phone. It wouldn't be beneficial for Android and I can't see Google doing it.
[General Topics] bdfull3r:
Where does google make most of its money?

Why would Google develope and release a free and open sourced operating system everyone can use?

Ad Revenue

If Android were to turn closed sourced, Google would loss profit potential. Meg Whitman is an idiot if she thinks Android is going to be closed sourced.
[General Topics] vetvito:
She's just doing her job.
[General Topics] tejrl:
This would be good for WP7 if true.
[General Topics] Stadsport:
Well, she's arguably not doing a very good job of it. webOS needs a cheerleader who will make everyone want to use it. Clumsily spreading rumors and FUD about a competitor is not going to garner support for her product, especially such a farfetched rumor.

Here's an idea: find someone (hint: hp can make hardware!) to make a killer device that runs webOS. Make it inexpensive, powerful, give it great battery life and a great design. Then get it into the hands of every developer you can. Send a box of them to Rovio. Give them to Verizon and AT&T (it better be dual-mode like the 4S) employees for free.

Then, make it a point to tell every vendor, carrier, software developer, reviewer, and blogger how great it and webOS is, citing legitimate points and statistics. Send a device to all them. Make something they love and make sure they know it's here to stay. If hp legitimately wants it to be a viable open source OS that other vendors will want to use, they need to shove it down their throats and make it super easy for devs to get it running.

Finally, don't delay it, don't put it on the market for 2 weeks and pull it, don't jack up the price, and don't give it some stupid achille's heel like a PenTile screen or something.

Then webOS will succeed.
[General Topics] vetvito:
When it goes open source, I'm sure Samsung and HTC will make a device. The hardware was the only thing that was really limiting WebOS.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
If HTC ever wants their own OS, here you go.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[General Topics] Stadsport:
Considering hp tried and failed to sell it to htc, I think that ship has sailed.
[General Topics] rekh127:
Google would never do that. They need android to be on as many phones as possible to boost ad revenue. They don't make money from the vendors. Also if they were likely to do that they wouldn't have made their flaship Galaxy Nexus a samsung phone, it would have been motorola.
[General Topics] JustROLLIN:
Agreed. Android is an ad/data wet dream for Google.
[General Topics] QuantizedBoson:
The data and social engineering aspects for targeting advertisements are massive. They've already invaded your Internets with google and computers with Chrome.

We all hear about all these anonymous usage statistics, but sometimes I'm surprised at how targeted the advertisements feel sometimes.

Probably one of the things that scared me the most was that I recently received a Motorcycle magazine. I've been interested in getting one for a while, but have never actively given my information to anyone before... Just using google, and looking at review of bikes. It's kind of scary that someone got my information, and was able to (at least I feel like) target those advertisements at me.
[General Topics] AllGamer:
the google & motorola marriage was approved and completed already by the court

yet Android is still open source

so that old news is just HP trying to get some fly time and pitch WebOS again, but failed yet again
[General Topics] zone23:
Just throwing this out there for anyone asking how does Google make money on the OS? Well maybe they don't make it directly on the OS its self but they make .30 cents every time a developer sells an app. That adds up pretty quick.

edit:

Unless of course the app is free.
[General Topics] Inagalaxyfaraway:
Google generates 97% percent of its revenue through ads and they have other income sources as well. Good luck finding app income in that 3%. Probably it is 0.003% of that 3%.

Also paid apps are not that popular in the Android market.
[General Topics] JustROLLIN:
Define "...not that popular..."

Are you saying compared to Apple or what exactly? Whats the basis?
[General Topics] mistermentality:
He means its a known fact apple users buy more apps than android ones. That's based on various statistics so not just a subjective opinion though the reasons for it are not so clearcut.

Dave
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
First shot at building a rom from reading over on the I9100 forums. Releasing due to reading all throughout Entropy's kernel thread about XWKL1 and its great battery life.

2/29/12 NEW Release!

XWKL1 Stock,

Odexed for Speed and Stability

Entropy's 2/26 Release

Multi-DPI dialer still included

Bloat removed

KH7 Modem

Latest Superuser binary

JKay Mod 13.5 for Odexed Roms still included!

Latest TiBu also still included.

Version 1.1 Update includes Entropy's 2/28 release

DOWNLOAD

2/28/12 CleanRom 1.1 Odexed http://androidstorage.net/cleanrom/CRRelease1-1.zip

OLD STUFF BELOW

1st Release: 2/19/12 - DEODEXED

Stock XWKL1

Entropy's 2/18/12 B Release

KH7 Modem

Debloated to almost bare minimum, left a few touchwiz apps.

Included Latest Titanium Backup

Superuser 3.0.3.2 latest binary and app baked in

JKay Mod 13.5 Included

I take no credit, I just read threads until I figured it out. It is however really smooth and fast. Been running for two days, awesome battery life so far.

OLD DOWNLOADS

2/19/12 Release 3: http://androidstorage.net/nameless/Nameless219R3.zip - 197MB

Release 3 Now includes a Multi-DPI capable dialer.

2/19/12 Release 2: http://androidstorage.net/nameless/Nameless219R2.zip - 197MB

2/19/12: http://androidstorage.net/nameless/Nameless219.zip - 211MB

FUTURE

Not sure yet

CREDITS

Entropy512 for his Kernel: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1289460

dead0 from I9100 forums for helping me with JKay apk signing issue.

To all others who's tutorials I read that I can't remember.

DEVS

If any I777 devs are in need of file hosting. Let me know, I got a ton of free room.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hoopas:
Just downloaded, will report back....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hoopas:
So far so good! Seems quick & seamless...further testing ahead. Thanks for feeding our addiction;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sirrkitt:
Hey! About to try this once I get it downloaded, but I think you might need to fix the R3 link! I'm not sure if it was me or not, but I had to copy paste the raw link to get it to download R3. Just clicking the link kept downloading R2 for me!

Hope this is a pretty snazzy ROM! :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
Thanks for sharing. :-)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
Good call, fixed!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] autonomous-inc:
I rarely change ROMs, but since your ROM is the soulchild of Entropy's work, I will probably be hopping on board.

Let'chu know when I change over.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
Actually I did this before, he released his rom creation thread this morning but I did choose and use the XWKL1 due to his praise of XWKL1.

I'm planning on continually updating this also as I plan to keep my SGS II till october at least!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] navenedrob:
Pretty sure you "stole" my ROM name, but no hard feelings. :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
My bad, was it from a while ago? Never saw it. I'll find another word meaning no name or something of the sorts haha.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] navenedrob:
No, I'm sure it was just a coincidence. The ROM was for Verizon Fascinate from last year. I'm not surprised to see it come up again. Just gave me a thought for a second. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
So given the title are you saying the other ROMs are dirty?! J/k :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
Hmm didn't know either, I had NoName as a temporary name then it magically changed to one of the suggested names I liked. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] naturallyfrozen:
Unnamed is running smoothly on my phone. How does it compare with this? I've downloaded so many Roms but lots of them give me issues. I just need a smooth, debloated stock with amazing battery life like Unnamed that I can bloat up, in so many ways

NoSig
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] c0ldburn3r:
Any thought on getting a 5 bar signal working? I can get them to show but have no clue on how to get them functional.

10 char this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Red5:
You're welcome. :)

I was also the one that suggested the name.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jasvncnt1:
whataya want, a cookie?:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jhermit:
Does Password lock work on this ROM?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
It should, I think it was only KH7 that had that bug.

To All, as soon as I get a free moment, plan to build a XWLA4 base with multi-dpi features. Thinking about a ICS theme now that I got the multi-dpi figured out. Gonna add some tweaks, remove some more junk and release some test builds hopefully this weekend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Quadra_Slam:
That will be an upgrade to this ROM or a new one? Will you continue working with xwkl1?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CyberManiaK:
I´m trying this rom. And it´s just me or the GPS it´s not working correctly ?

It always show the GPS icon blinking, but it is pointing the right address. this remain for about 30 seconds, and suddendly jumps to another address 10 blocks away, then return to the original address !!

I was really looking for a xwkl1 build (not themed). IMO this is a very battery friendly base !!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dandrumheller:
Try a re-boot to see if that sorts your GPS - I had problems at one point where it would get a location momentarily then lose it and continually hunt for satellites. This was on ICScrewD 2.0.1 (also XWKL1) and a reboot fixed it. haven't had issues since.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
Alright guys, been playing with things and have noticed my battery life has been getting shorter. Seems I've either deleted something that is causing AOS battery drain or maybe I'm just using more and not realizing. Either-way working on this before I release again.

What you guys think should I stay with XWKL1 or move to newer?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
New Update out guys, try it out. It's odexed for smoothness and speed. All the features from previous builds are still available!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
Gonna try this out soon. Seems like a winner based off what's in it. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jasvncnt1:
Man...how long do you actually stay on one ROM for? LOL
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Edgarhighman:
What's diff between odexed/deodexed, and what's zipaligned
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
The difference is Google search.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] afrojoc:
He probably stays on the same rom for at least 4 hours a day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tewan:
"My battery life is awesome on this ROM! Last the entire 4 hours I stayed on it!"

I might give CleanRom a try in the near future (such as this weekend?)... perhaps I'll get lucky and that ICS theme mentioned earlier will be released. Haven't tried an odexed rom yet (as far as I know) so it'd be an interesting change.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
Don't count on it yet, I'm trying to determine if I can deodex a rom, theme it then somehow reodex it. Apparently you can reodex but I got to research first.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] patsmike:
Nh5, Just wondering, what did you use to odex your ROM?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
This I didn't have to odex, it came odexed from sammy. If I start making a themed version that's when reodexing becomes a requirement.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Skv012a:
Gonna try. So far for me, battery life is a huge issue on all the roms ive tried, so ill put hope in this and see...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
This is old, move on to ICS, AOKP + Fluxi and pegasusq has put me at better battery than I ever had on gingerbread. I wonder if my links still work?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Skv012a:
Links dont, but atm im in Japan and local mms email app hasnt caught up with ICS yet. Using roundabout methods is too much of a pain, so im trying to find the best GB rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] willbs94:
Shishir rom gingerbread version
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Skv012a:
Umm, link please? Cant find that one...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
. . . or UnNamed 1.3.2.

Download link
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ShadyAce80:
T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Jax184:
I've not had the chance to use a mytouch 4G slide yet, but based on the specs, I'd say:

The Sidekick 4G has the best keyboard ever attached to a cell phone. Nothing else compares. It also has the cooler mechanism. The downside is a slow, buggy, outdated ROM with hardly any development.

The mytouch is definitely faster, plus has more memory. That'll come in handy if you're planning to do things like run emulators, play games, surf lots, etc.

So if your life revolves around texting, emailing, and other keyboard-centric tasks, the Sidekick is the way to go. But if you want something fast and more up to date, go with the mytouch.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] d3xtro.:
I would go for the Mytouch 4g slide. The sidekick has too many bugs that seem like the wont ever get fixed.

The camera isn't that great either, and there is no flash.

The sidekick only has a nicer keyboard.

I would say play around with the phones they hve in the store and see which one is more user friendly to you.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] slinkygn:
I recently had to make the same decision; a key point for me was that the SK4G is spec'ed for HSPA+21, while the MT4G seems to be only spec'ed at HSPA+14. (I say "seems to be" because it's harder than it should be to find official info on the MT4G's specific speed rating on HSPA+; had to rely on some sleuthing and some third-party sources.) Even with that, it was close for me; it was a natural temptation for me to favor the HTC phone due to HTC's ROM availability. But I did go with the SK4G. Too early for me to say if I am happy with my decision.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] awill2ill:
go with the 4g slide
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] stickydoorknob:
What kind of bugs are there on the sidekick 4g if you don't mind me asking? Mine seems to reboot very frequently whenever I'm gaming or using multiple applications and would vibrate a few times before rebooting completely.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] d3xtro.:
Plenty of force closes with apps, like you said happens when you areusing multiple apps, along with random phone rebootings. Touch screen problems is the most annoyiong. (screen will randomly not respond at all or will lag around and press things its self).

Though these things have been happening a lot less since I started using the Back to the Basics rom.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mtbr442:
Anyone having issues with the bumpers on the docking station? I just notched that the bumper below the touchpad on my dock is missing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Chrono_Tata:
Mine is still there but yeah, you got to watch out. I think they are just glued on. You should find something to put there as a replacement otherwise the dock might start rubbing against your screen.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mtbr442:
Good point. I have already contacted ASUS to see if they can just ship me a couple replacement bumpers. If not then back to Amazon it will go.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ShadyAce80:
T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.

_____________

OK now I have the phone on it's way. I know I can't get s-off but would like to know what I can and can't do until that solution has been found. I am also reading up so not looking for the lazy way out.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
Pretty sure the Sidekick has reported A LOT of hardware problems.... check there forums here as well, but I do recall it being a high-problem phone.

You can't possibly go wrong with this device. :D

Developer "Blue61X" has even bought two of these devices because he loves it so much. if that helps ;)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ShadyAce80:
I'm leaning this way.... haven't had much chance to explore this forum yet... Is it possible to get s-off yet?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Yea, it's great. I can't see anything else coming close to it for a while in it's class ( hardware keyboard )

The stock battery is not great - and that's being polite.

You can find links to the battery threads in the contents page of my sticky in dev - basically you have the cheaper Anker or the more expensive Mugen to choose from to replace it with.

If you have/want to spend the money, the Mugen is great - I rock an Anker myself and love it.

Make use of the tv-out through the headphones jack, I play a lot of games output to a tv screen and the device stays alive and active while you are hooked up. I'm sure you can imagine how much more fun racing games and many others will be like this.

You can also find links to the tv threads in the dev reference, which will tell you what cable to get.

I have a Trident case on my primary, and love it. There's a decent thread on cases, but I've been pretty busy around here and haven't had the chance to update it in a while. I'll get back to it sometime.

Once you change a few keymappings, update with my gps fix and start really playing with it you'll love it.

Any specific questions just toss 'em out there - but there is no other device now or that we know of coming that I would trade this for.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Depends. For the new update, which you'll have, you got a chance with the HTC unlock tool - if that works you can do most stuff.

We are actively working on a downgrade to S-OFF option - this led to me getting S-OFF to S -ON for us a couple hours ago and I'll be bringing one of my devices up to the S-ON locked state you'll get it in later tonight.

Then I'll be able to actually try stuff instead of us guessing - all the devs working on the fix were S-OFF already so figuring out how to flip it S-ON was a big step in productivity. Once I update in S -ON, I'm stuck until we figure it out - so don't worry man, right there with ya.

HTC should have the issue resolved and restart the OTA in the not too distant future.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] wiswis:
DO NOT SIDEKICK 4G i have that phone and its slow as ****, no roms, very hard to put clockwork mod on it,

the olny good thing about it is the keyboard and i personally prefer the mytouch 4g slides keybaord
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ShadyAce80:
@ Blue: looking forward to the success of your work and all that I can learn from you and the other devs. I personally use the Samsung galaxy s 4g and am getting this phone to replace my wife's mt3gs and think I'm going to be jealous from the little bit that I've read.

@wiswis: already placed the order for the mytouch. I posted something similar to this in the sidekick forum and plenty of people have viewed but no post. They made the decision very easy.

Thank you everyone for your input.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ac3theone:
Definitely the mt4gs
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
Just a little word about the GPS. On the 1.28.531.10 stock ROM, your GPS fix was a huge improvement. However, now that I'm on the 1.55.531.3 stock ROM, the GPS is lightening quick and accurate without any adjustments on my part. HTC must have done some serious tweaking to the GPS code in this ROM.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
You know, I wasn't thinking when I wrote that - there was a bunch of GPS stuff that was pushed for the new update, a new SUPL cert and gps.conf file. I meant to take a look at it to see what they did and if it still needed help or not, but haven't had a chance to yet.

Hopefully I'll have the presence of mind to pull them from my other phone now that it's up to date stovk
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] leoilios:
Lol
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] leoilios:
Get her this phone. The new sidekick was a flop.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] 757VaPtown:
If you read the specs alone it should be nothing but obvious what phone to choose its like asking should i go with a free geo or a BMW .........
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yogi2010:
i think you get the idea by now, but i'll just say, the keyboard is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason you might choose the SK. i've had both, and there is no comparison... MT4GS all the way.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ShadyAce80:
LMFAO! Screw the damn keyboard. I can't wait to dig into this phone and see what it can do. Only downside is my wife said I only get one weekend to set it up before she takes it away. NOW that I have the phone on order and I'll only have the weekend to mess with it any suggestions on what I should start with until s-off is achieved?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] leoilios:
Depends what hboot u get. If u get the older one, ur in business. Ez to root and s-off.

Use rubix ics 5.2 with my directions on page 148 of its thread on rootzwiki, if u want stability with everything working and super fast. If she wants ics, tbalden's rom probably. But all the 4.0.X roms are still a work in progress.

sent from rubix ics 5.2 mt4gs
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
BMW's are having recalls. Soo. . . .

:p

Just my spare change.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ShadyAce80:
I want the stuff that lets me dig in.... my wife doesn't care. she just wants it to work. as far as getting 4.0 on it, don't really care yet either way yet.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] 757VaPtown:
You get the idea lol.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I know. :p I couldn't resist, as i just took in my Beamer to get the recall fixed Wednesday :cool:
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] AgentCherryColla:
Not true, the 4.0 Roms are amazing. 100% Fine.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
You should review the sticky from Droidmoder at the top of general - the MT4GS compendium which will give you a good overview of a lot.

Then go hit my sticky at the top of the dev section, which links up a lot of the threads in the MT4GS forums and has a lot of it's own info besides.

Working through the two of them should give you a good orientation on most of what we can do or try to do, and you should be able to ask more direct questions after going through them.

We're all here to help, I love your excitement over the incoming new device~!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rilbel:
I don't even think that's a fair comparison. The slide is such a superior device.