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[Android General] r1d3r:
I think its actually google who's trying to play the childish game of "we had it first".

It would be a lot better for google to have some kind of a policy that forced the manufacturers to upgrade the software on their devices to the latest version within a reasonable time period. that way the fragmentation issue would be almost eliminated AND we wouldn't have to cut ourselves for not having the latest and greatest on our phone. But these companies need to make money too so.... want the new android version? buy a new phone....
[Android General] paroys:
wanting update for ICS and now Jellybean? haiyaya:confused:
[Android General] tazbo28:
i get what your saying. And to a certain extent, its true. But I just think that with all the devices on the market it seems like they are being counter productive. and in the end they will end up shooting themselves in the foot. I really hate to keep beatin on the dead horse, but as much as i hate to say it, apple really is proving that this sort of rush to market mentality means nothing. They are doing something a lot different, granted, but it actually works if you hold onto your best ace card for a while. At least until youve got 98% of bugs out.
[Android General] girish07:
Jellybean 5.0

the jellybean 5.0 is basically for tablets lyk the honeycomb. So there is a possibilty tht it will b launched.
[Android General] radityayosa:
so beautifuuuuuuuuuul~ :eek:
[Android General] CruiseMod:
iOS is already killed by Android..
[Android General] Smokeey:
If you want the newest version of Android buy a nexus phone.

Nuff said.
[Android General] :
Without innovation no progress!
[Android General] arthur93:
My galaxy S is not even updated officialy to ICS adn they want to release the Jellybean..

We have only few ICS phones already..

I guess i could be released in a near future.. but not now.
[Android General] MikeyMike01:
That's really the only way they can keep up with Apple. They can't go toe to toe with Apple on even footing.

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[Android General] MikeyMike01:
It's NOT enough said. The apps still look like junk, perform like junk, and just don't work as well as they should because of fragmentation.

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[Android General] JustinUhhh:
Right now no one can go toe to toe with apple on even footing. In late 2011 Apple had more cash reserves than the US Government did. Apple has built their brand up to a level where almost no tech company has been before. That being said I hate them and I hate their products, but I realize that they are the big boys on the block. Everything released in the mobile world is always compared to the iphone, because its the standard.
[Android General] codito:
I've never had any of these problems, but I'm not dumb enough to buy Samsung Android phones that aren't dev phones.

Plus 99.9% of apps released today still work just fine on 2.1 and up. So you're kind of full of it.
[Android General] ralejandroba:
To early

i think is to early, to introduce a new google OS, i just flash my X8 with ICS, maybe jellybean is like honeycomb, just for tablets.:eek:
[Android General] codito:
ICS is for tablets too, why would they need a seperate version? ~6 months between major and minor revisions is pretty typical of Android, and has been since release.
[Android General] DigitalSkyline:
I think maybe they should fix the issues with ICS, if anything do point releases, ex why an't I remap the function keys on my transformer? And will they ever flesh out the productivity and creative application space which is dominated by iOS. Apple has a 20 year head start in music/video/print setting... but the handful of apps in Android are not even close to being on par. Why can't I make anything (aside from sketches) with my tablet? Play games, surf the net, listen to music, watch movies... all working pretty well, so get a team to build up "movie studio"... Google has the money, where is the talent?
[Android General] thebobp:
To kinda play devil's advocate..

The phones from last year are going to get ICS within a month or two. The phones that are to be released later this year will mostly come out with ICS. And then Android itself will progress to Jellybean (possibly with a new Nexus device), leaving all the usual manufacturers stuck with ICS for a few months until they finally adapt.

I don't see anything wrong with this picture (aside, of course, from the jealous rage that comes from not having the newest thing). Indeed, it seems like the same thing as what's happened with ICS itself: it's had a "device monopoly" for some months now. The plain and unavoidable fact is: there's a 4-6 month lag in getting the manufacturers to adopt the newest thing. It's the same lag as always, and I don't see this Jellybean release as anything unusual.

Can't stand the lag? Buy a Nexus phone. Or wait a few months for the manufacturers to adopt Jellybean, only to find out the next OS version has been released, so that you wait again, and again, until you never buy anything at all.
[Android General] codito:
I don't see them coming out with a new nexus already, they're about year apart.
[Android General] thebobp:
I'm guessing Jellybean would be showcased on the Galaxy Nexus, if that's the case.

It's also possible the rumored time-frame is wrong, and that it will arrive just in time for the next Nexus.
[Android General] MikeyMike01:
Or you could get a phone running an OS from a company that cares.

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[Android General] thebobp:
That's one alternative, but I'd challenge you to show me a company that actually cares :D
[Android General] Kakoura:
I know the google development cycle is 6 to 8 months but instead of giving me a ICE 4.0 update on my Galaxy S2 they're busier with developing the next android installment. Maybe next time first push the update faster on all the mobile phones and then start producing the next one
[Android General] thebobp:
Hold your horses here! Google only produces Android (the operating system); they don't actually push it onto any phones besides the Nexus (Nexuses? Nexii?).

The manufacturers (and I guess the carriers) are the ones who do that. If anyone's currently to blame, it'd probably be Samsung*, and if the carrier fails to get the update out after they've finished tweaking it.. well, then you'd know who to blame as well.

*I do think there's an argument to blame google due to the less-than-transparent nature of the development process leading to more or less "sudden releases". I guess it could be a necessary nature of such a cutthroat market, so I'm on the fence about this.
[Android General] Kakoura:
I know Samsung is developing a new touchwizz and tweaking it for ICE but google hasn't even finished tweaking ICE and they're already to busy setting up android 5. My point is first finish and perfect your first release.
[Android General] thebobp:
Hm, I expect google's developing whatever versions of ICE we have left until it turns to Jellybean. It's not like they're separate projects or whatever.
[Android General] aawillma:
This news should probably just be ignored. By everyone. When google released ICS source code it was mere days before antsy crack flashers were complaining about CM9 not being out already. They shouldn't release news like this, just makes things harder on devs.
[Android General] sdw79:
You know they have already developed may past JellyBean, they are into the M's at least. They already know and developed the tech, just like everything in electronics.
[Android General] xenoposeidon:
Jelly Beans?

I didn't even try the Ice Cream yet. :|
[Android General] MikeyMike01:
Apple and Microsoft make money from making you happy. Google makes money from ads and data farming.

That pretty much sums up the Android experience.

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[Android General] thebobp:
I don't think so.

Aligned interests are good (though, in this particular case, you forgot that google wants you to stick with android so that they can make more money from ads), but talking about Microsoft as a company that cares about you? That's quite a stretch.

Indeed, Microsoft and Apple both make extra when you buy a new phone (just as an example), same as all those android vendors, Samsung, etc. Apple, at least, took advantage of this by releasing minor upgrades at a highly marked up price. (Microsoft hasn't really had time to show their practices yet, but I"m not exactly holding my breath.)

Do they care about people who feel restricted, and want to jailbreak, or just the people who fit well into their mentality? To this date, support for jailbreaking and customization has been nil (if not less).

Finally, you have to question companies who would rather use their money on patent lawsuits than on innovation. Innovation and competition benefit the end consumer (that is, if they really care about us); all patents (at least, software patents) do is restrict competition for silly reasons, increase prices, and in the end the user is the one paying the bill.

I'm not saying here that they're bad companies, just that they're companies. They all have their advantages and disadvantages for the end consumer. You shouldn't be fooled into thinking any one of them actually cares about you.
[Android General] Cor-master:
I just can't see this news being true. As of now there is still only one phone out there that officially has ICS, so releasing a newer version of android at this point would just be retarded.
[Android General] skythunder83:
WOW ....................
[Android General] MikeyMike01:
There's an entire army of cheap, free, by-one-get-one, Chinese, and so forth Android phones out that make up the bulk of the bunch anyway. They'd still get what they're really after.

Haven't done wrong by me yet. Google can have all the cite rhetoric they want, actions speak much louder to me.

Everything Google does is a copy of something else. They've shamelessly stolen from Facebook, Twitter, iPhone, Bing... it goes on and on. I actually can't think of a single significant innovative thing Google has ever done, except the notification drawer.

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[Android General] larma:
I'm taking these news with a grain of salt. Heck ICS is hardly even out yet, they'd be stupid to push out 5.0 this soon. If anything, I think Jellybean (if it exists) might be 4.1. There's no point of making huge software changes with every version.
[Android General] thebobp:
Not if the android brand comes into question.

Besides, you seem to be underestimating the effects of competition. As long as google has to "catch up" in order to gain "dominance", they'll be innovating. There's the aligned incentives for you.

You're joking, right? These are the same guys who brought us years-un-updated internet explorer (via anticompetitive methods, no less) and windows vista. I'd say they've done wrong by a lot of people, in addition to setting back browser development five years or so.

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but ideas get reused. Shakespeare reused old plots; new developments reuse the discoveries of those who came before. I'm not exactly a stickler to the notion that whoever comes up with an idea gets exclusive rights to it; indeed, in such a world, innovation would be practically impossible.

(As a humorous interlude, perhaps you should research from where DOS, or indeed the original Windows, came about. Hint: they were pretty much "stolen".*)

*You would call it that, I think, based on the standards you've displayed. I wouldn't.

However, this entire notion of fanboyism to whichever company misses the real point, which is whether or not Google has and will continue to innovate where android is concerned. It's pretty much undeniable that they've contributed loads to android. Thanks to competition and aligned incentives, they're sure to continue for a while yet. And even if, in some unforeseen circumstance, they do stop making changes, the openness of the platform practically guarantees someone else will be able to take over.

And that's the way the cookie crumbles.
[Android General] Cor-master:
Jellybean could very well be 4.1 not 5.0. You figure eclair, froyo, and gingerbread covered 2.0-2.3which made sense because their were enough tweaks to warrent a new name but not enough tweaks for a major version number change. So Jellybean man be just a revised ics anyway
[Android General] IrateCustomer:
If you are moving forward, you are moving backward...especially in the mobile market.
[Android General] MikeyMike01:
The only problems with Vista were outside Microsoft's control.

Despite being open source, it's an extremely closed and restrictive platform.

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[Android General] heyjoe66:
Amen for that

Nobody pays for finished and stable, or Blackberry would be the only smartphone we know.

Everyone pay for shiny and new.

Google stolen something from Bing!?:eek: ...and iPhone!?:eek: ...dunno what to say

But the notification drawer was really borrowed, it was introduces by HTC in Manilla interface back on WinMo 6.x
[Android General] MikeyMike01:
I should have figured. ;)

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[Android General] thebobp:
Oh, I see how it is. I suppose browser stagnation was also "outside Microsoft's control". After all, your golden company could never have screwed anyone over.

I really don't get the fanboyism that seems to come with phones.

I actually agree: it's not nearly as open as I'd like. And yet you've managed to completely miss the point. Android is open enough that others would be able to continue should google, for some weird reason, fail. With iOS and WP, there is no such backup.

(Course, this is only the tiniest part of the issue, but it was also the only part you bothered to respond to, so..)
[Android General] noahmay:
indeed and SE phones getting ICS in late march early april it sounds like a stupid ide
[Android General] Cor-master:
I can see it being true if they go 4.1 with it. Froyo is the best example honestly froyo should of honestly been 2.1.5 or something, or 2.2 is OK I guess, I don't get how android developers determine version numbers. 2.1,2.2,2.3 are all big enough changes to to have their own name but wait... 3.0,3.1,3.2 are all honeycomb? Wtf? Seriously I don't get it.
[Android General] I Am Marino:
Today Google announced Jelly Bean would be out in the fall.
[Android General] Navik57:
Tick.... Tock....

Tick.... Tock....

ICS is the Tock, JB will most likely be a tick.... It's how things go, and usually at a 6 month pace. The conjecture on version numbering or anything really to do with JB needs to stop until Google (the only ones who really know what's going on), informs us.
[Android General] Cor-master:
I do think at some point Google needs to stop releasing new versions and just support their current one, I was thinking a good way to fix fragmentation would be to stick with ics for a while and have an "android updates " service like Windows that fixes bugs and security holes, as well as upgrading core apps such as the dialer, browser, media player etc.
[Android General] LaSoMer:
That's a lot of time.

They have more important things to do like...

bring ICS to more than three devices!:mad:
[Android General] sdw79:
Yea it would be a mistake but you better bet they do have their future builds all ready when need be.
[Android General] lovejaychou2005:
I just want to have a stable ICS :(
[HTC Titan] quickbird144:
Just recently discovered this phone and love it!

However, i'm on T-Mobile. I'm not one of those people that have to have fast speeds on a phone and I'm usually around wi-fi.

Would this phone be worth getting and then using it on T-Mobile?
[HTC Titan] earthbellybutton:
Hello! Maybe this one helps you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_IrKOXeZ7w
[HTC Titan] shamoozoo:
i have been using mine on t-mobile for a couple months now and it does suck not having 3g all the time. cant download certain things or some apps simply wont work running on edge when your out and about. works excellently on wifi. i would say if you get it for a good price do it. the screen size is awesome and its a fast phone. but i wouldnt drop $600 on it for it to run on edge. i won mine at a windows phone event night and unlocked it for $30
[HTC Titan] rgencarn:
I totally agree with the statement from shamoozoo. I did the same thing about two months ago. I bought an AT&T phone and paid the price ($16.00 US) to get the unlock code to make it work on T-Mobile. Everthing works well except the data. Only getting Edge as the maximum data speed. Someone wrote in another thread about a pending T-Mob/AT&T data roaming agreement that will give us faster speeds and that it'll happen around the summer of this year so crossing my fingers on that one. Also, waiting for the unbranding ROM which will get rid of the AT&T "stuff" on my Titan and give me the internet sharing (tethering) for free.
[HTC Titan] fallenmonk:
t.mobile were not doing the deal I wanted so went with vodaphone. When using WiFi everything is instant. Don't know if it is the same with other networks. Even playing games online is instant. I love this phone.
[HTC Titan] timothy0921:
HTC Titan x310a (AT&T) on T-Mobile...

Hey there. I too am a T-Mobile subscriber, using the AT&T branded version of the HTC Titan, and here's my 2¢; When I saw the announcement for this phone, I was blown away, and just HAD to have it. I had a buddy who's with AT&T, and was eligible for a phone upgrade, but didn't want to use it, because he liked his current phone, so he allowed me to use it, so I got my Titan for $200. The biggest drawback, which others have mentioned here, is that, due to the AT&T radio firmware, which is incompatible with T-Mobile's 3G & 4G network, I'm stuck at 2G (EDGE). Also, I cannot use T-Mobile's Visual Voicemail. Other than these 2 issues, the Titan is phenomenal! Now, here's the good news; XDA-Developer members Cotulla, and the Dark Forces Team are currently working on a HardSPL & custom ROM for these incredible phones! Once they are finished, and make these tools available to the community, we will be able to flash custom Windows Phone ROMs, and different radio firmware, which will allow our Titans to use T-Mobiles

3G & 4G network bands! So my opinion is thus; the HTC Titan is an EXCELLENT phone to use on any GSM network. Good luck!
[HTC Titan] dmelara:
Hello,

I am in the same situation, I got the ATT Titan activated on T mobile and I get only Edge signal. Let us know when the Rom is done, I will for. I got My Titan free so nothing to lose but will like to have working on 4G.

Thank you.
[HTC Titan] tai4de2:
I don't think alternate ROMs will get you 3G on T-Mobile. Until proven, that's just wishful thinking.
[HTC Titan] Tachi91:
Radio Firmware doesn't change the actual Bands the phone uses its simply a hardware limitation. When and if T-Mobile does data roaming with AT&Ts 3G then yea you will have 3G/HSPA+ until then your stuck with EDGE until they light it up in your area.

And even if software controlled the radio bands we would first need compatible tmobile firmware for the Titan that would work with WP7 very restrictive OS.
[HTC Titan] tai4de2:
The only way an AT&T-branded Titan will ever get 3G on T-Mobile USA is if and when T-Mo refarms their spectrum to use 1900MHz band for UMTS.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Lo N Slo:
A couple of days ago I threw my phone is rage.... I need to turn it in for a replacement however I cannot use my touchscreen at all. Nothing displays and none of the touches have any effect. Only the hard buttons work.

Im pretty sure I can get it into download mode and reset it to stock rom, but I was wondering if there was anyway I can access the phones internal HD without connecting USB data from the pull down menu to save my pictures and other data.

Also, the phone is going to cost me $130 to replace, since I don't have insurance. Does anyone have any suggestions that might be cheaper?

Sorry for what sounds like a dumb post and any help is greatly appreciated!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] noodles2224:
Don't think you can access besides going into recovery and get your pics and data like that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Teo032:
You can refer to this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1501169

Broken Screen
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] G1ForFun:
It costs $130 (deductible) to file a claim if you have insurance.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] alphadog32:
Why did you throw it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Husam2011:
Rage for buying a useless device.

--sarcasm
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bogda2:
Hi

Just Today i noticed that i can't start my Stock recovery mode, I am currently on 8.6.5.21 stock Firmware,

The only thing i did was rooting the Device using NachoRoot and i did not Have any problems while rooting, everything went very smoothly, i rooted the tablet and then installed the superuser app, after that i did batch Backup using Titanium Backup and finally installed rootkeeper

A while ago i tried to boot to recovery mode then i got the picture of the Android with the exclamation mark ( ! ) inside of it.

I would like to know wither this is normal after rooting or not because before i never really tried to boot to stock recovery mode.

if not is there anyway i can retrieve the Stock recovery mode?

I mean as far as i know almost everything you'd want to do you'll have to do it using whatever recovery mode you have.

If there is anything you can help me with, it'd be much appreciated.

Thank you​
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bogda2:
come on guys 35 views and not a single answer

at least someone tells me wither it is normal or not
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreamboxuser:
Seems normal to me unless you have something on the Microsd that you want to flash.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bogda2:
so what you are saying is, i have to have a micro sd card inserted with something to flash in order to boot to recovery mode?

I mean what if i want to wipe the data in the device or restore factory settings?

I don't really think it is normal, can anyone please confirm it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baseballfanz:
He is right, that is normal.

That is your stock recovery. The stock recovery doesn't do anything except scan for an update file. If it detect one it flash it, if not you get that Android with exclamation symbol. while holding Vol down plus power button and wait till you see the prompt, if you push Vol up within 5 sec it take you to recovery but if you wait a little longer you'll get a prompt to either wipe data our cold boot device
[Xperia Arc General] fullmetalxx:
listen guys i had the battery issue for 2 days now and trust me i was going effin nuts so i came across this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1465702 but i noticed this for for LOCKED bootloaders

so what i done was relock my bootloader and start the operation and weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it worked.. here are my steps i hope it works for everyone :D

req's

Xerpia arc

unlocked/locked bootloader

LINUX

Flashtool

cause i tried it with windows and it didnt work but you could try it anyways with doomlords EasyRootingToolkit package link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1465702 POST #2

step 1. download http://www.mediafire.com/?invk53r4d4o3bkn Xperia_Relock_bootloader.ftf

step 2. download http://www.mediafire.com/?8d361p6ykrfq27f LT15i_4.0.2.A.0.42_lockedBL_battery.7z

step 3. extract all files so u have the ftf's place them in your flashtools firmware folder

step 4. go ahead and flash with ftf from step 1

once thats finished enter flash mode again this time flash it with Arc_step1_step1.ftf

once finished let the device boot.. u will reach the green sony logo part..

now in linux type "sudo /step2" this will root your device and patch the battery..

step 5. after step 2. if you device doesnt reboot (like mine) remove battery wait 5 sec's put it back in then enter flashmode and flash with Arc_step3_step3.ftf

thats all to it. your device should boot up and tell u that it has %85

from there download	FuelGaugeFixV16.apk from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1312398 post #1 at the bottom..

i wanna say thanks to doomlord,Bazoocaze,zdzihu for there methods and help.

also this is my first time making a tutorial and i know i suck at it LOL!

enjoy and best all of luck :)