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[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
One word... AWESOME!

Been playing with replacement words, nicknames, custom phrases, tasker integration, and command creation. So far, it's flawless. Can't wait for backup and restore from cloud (brilliant idea) since I have multiple devices and this would be much easier than recreating each customization on every device. Two thumbs way up! :good::good:
[Android Apps and Games] guy4jesuschrist:
I know this has been mentioned already, in relation to WA integration. But do you still have plans to allow linking of WA dev accounts, so that users can use their individual quota, or is that functionality looking more difficult to implement than originally expected?

Thanks so much for the new update, and congrats on the BETA status! Glad to be along for this exciting ride! :)
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
Hi Brandall,

No mention of the tasker plugin? It did I miss it?
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
EDIT: Capitals removed - updating apk now! Thanks again for spotting this.
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
No worries.

Toast clipboard doesn't work for me (latest sense jelly bean). It computes but doesn't display the toast.
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
If I'm not mistaken, Loquendo is not compatible with Jelly Bean devices and I believe they removed it from the Play Store. Not sure if they plan on resurrecting it or not.
[Android Apps and Games] Extreme_One:
It's not compatible with I.C.S either so I use Ivona on my tablet.

Loquendo (on my Gingerbread phone) is the by far the best, most natural sounding TTS I've come across on any platform. It even changes inflection based on the punctuation, so statements sound coirect and different to questions.

@ Anyone with a Jellybean device - What's the voice like on Jellybean compared to say Ivona or Svox?

Tested the new 'conversation feature' of the latest build and it's working perfectly here.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for generosity and glad it's working for you! I really haven't had much of a chance to test it! Been too busy building it!

Great, glad it's working without me needing to do anything else! Will add it to the tutorial and pop your name in lights! :cool: In an early version of utter! there was a way to save all speech (including any sound effects) to the sdcard, so you could use them as notifications. I think if I snipped just the sounds effects out, I may be treading on some copyrighted toes though! But if they are no more... who's gunna sue me!?

They should be able to filter it to appear for all devices but Jelly Bean, so I think something else may be amiss...? They were bought-out recently, so perhaps it's something to do with that...?

Liking the one word and double thumbs up! :good: :good: thank you. Both cloud and xml will be transferable between devices, so I best get on with it!

Glad to have you along for the ride! Allowing you to enter your own API key is actually very simple for me to code, but I need a little more time to ponder over what I should do about this - I'm sure it breaches their T&C's somewhere and I really don't want to become unpopular with them.... Need to have a think about what my next step is.

Thanks again for pointing it out! Does the computing notification disappear as though it thinks it has completed the request, or does the notification remain there?

Anyone else on JB replicate?

Thanks for the feedback, still waiting for the bugs to start flooding in!

I think SVOX is going to get left behind, or certainly classed as a 'budget' engine soon... IVONA may be heading down a dead end with their voices being non-synthesised, it seems like it's the way the competition are heading. They also need to appear from Beta soon, as they've been in it longer than utter! has been in Alpha! The delay on their engines initialising is awful...

Anyway, I best stop waffling and crack on! About to post the updated apk, less the Tasker plugin.

Thanks for all feedback so far! As usual, doing a grand job :good:
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
The Google Now voice in JB is monotone/methodical to say the least. I have both Ivona and SVOX and use Ivona. Loquendo has very nice voices and you're correct regarding the voice inflections. Probably the most human sounding voices around. Another "Assistant" had built in iSpeech voices which seem to be a close match to Loquendo but I believe iSpeech is not a voice you can download. It is strictly a voice that requires a data connection to work.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Without waffling on too much about this subject, I believe that if you're developing a voice engine now, it has to be under the assumption that in a few years from now, lightening quick data connections will be available everywhere...

The days of being out of range etc will be long forgotten. IVONA fills a good gap for now with a large download on the external storage, but I think they will have short-lived dominance on the best sounding voices with this approach. Waffle complete!

Oh, I wasn't going to mention it, but I'm talks with iSpeech.... and a few others.... :cowboy:
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
It computes completely, as if everything went fine, but doesn't show the toast.

Another bug, if I play a sound effect (in my case, a fart, follow by a laugh I downloaded) it works fine but the utter is computing notification doesn't disappear.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks, I'll investigate.

Can you test the sound effect in a media player and check it's not corrupt or never-ending.... What size is it?

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[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
A multiple replacement, one of the app it replaces is Titanium backup. And it already works but system-settings-backup. For apps you can already do anything.

Monday probably will show what can I do for you ;). I'm still thinking that I should show the app before I finish all the features, but I will probably publish it anyways earlier, as my ideas are quite indefinitely born every second ;P.

Yesssss, I already see, you wrote tons of text here :D

Włącz dane mobilne

Or better if you say:

Włącz internet

(yes, turn on the internet, because there is no other "internet" than mobile, as WiFi is not guaranteed to have internet access and even if it has, there is distinguishable "Włącz WiFi" alternative ;) - PS. everyone I know says "internet" instead of "dane mobilne" or even worse "komunikacja mobilna" hahah - in Polish there are lacks of the right terms for many things in fast technology progress)

I need to help you NOW! :D Gimme it! You can send me anything by mail, I'll do all the polish part :)

You're welcome :D

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Can I replace hours/minutes by "replacing words"?

"New note" replies "please install evernote application to use this feature", while I'm on Sense rom 3.6 which has "HTC Notes" based on EverNote, and even using it's cloud engine. You really should take care of this, as almost every HTC user has HTC Notes (I'm not sure which roms had it but I had it long time already).

Tell me what to do (for example to list all intents or something) to help you running it.

Every "edit" like "edit commands" or "edit words"/"nicknames" should have a button "add new".

And all of those should be editable in the text files to make it really fast and convenient like csv or xml on SD card or even /data/...
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Not able to replicate toasting problem.

Jellybean 4.1.1
[Android Apps and Games] krzych:
Too good toaster it seems ;) Good night ;)
[Android Apps and Games] masok:
Looks great.

Subscribed
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
I've continued to test, and cannot see the toast. I have visual results off. One X, custom sense jelly bean 4.2
[Android Apps and Games] CarsnGadgets:
Fantastic work Brandall, sound effects are a genius addition.

With regards to Wolfram, I personally would pay £10 for Utter, its that good, and I expect most people would pay £2.00 - 3.00 without batting an eye lid, maybe do a poll and see what value people attribute to it? (And, to be honest, I dont think it will matter too much to most people if you leave Wolfram out.) You cold release a trial version for free, and a pro version with features unlocked.

Good luck with the continuing work :0)

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PS. Anyone looking for some cool free sound files, head here: http://www.freesound.org/ ;)
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for confirming :good:

When you open utter! do you get a Toast from superuser? Wondering if Toasts from everywhere are failing? I've had a look back through my code and there's nothing I can change, so wondering if this is a custom ROM issue? The app has to Toast from a background thread, so it may be a different implementation to the way other apps are 'toasting', but it should still work of course..'

Thanks for your kind words and the handy link :good: I need to have a further ponder on what to do - I think premium plugins may be the only way forward, that way I can keep a basic version of utter! free and then users can decide if they want to pay to enhance it. It's frustrating that it's actually money going to other companies, not for funding the app though! Need to ponder about actual premium version of utter! too... So much to ponder over! :eek:

dziękuję :good:

Yup, anything that appears in commands.

Evernote allows developers to use OAuth to retrieve and send document content on the user's behalf. HTC are using this implementation within their own notes application. I didn't want to go down this route, it's so much effort compared to the user having Evernote installed...

Yes, you're right - I'll add 'new', thanks for the suggestion. Editing in XML is nearly finished! You'll be able to import it and then send it to the cloud and the import it from the cloud on your other devices.

Thanks for all of the feedback folks :good: please keep it coming!

Anyone having problems with the voice engine switching between languages? Still could do with some help on the translation here - If it's not your language, I could easily change it to yours, as it's just for example purposes! Thanks in advance.

Cheers

Ben

For back page arrivals, latest test build can be found here

EDIT: I found a selection of impressive fart sounds here!
[Android Apps and Games] cpaixao:
Ben, in Portuguese:

New voice note = Nova Anotação Por Fala
[Android Apps and Games] lncoln:
Here's my 2¢.

As a nerd, and a long time follower of your work and personal attention to users....I would gladly pay $20.

As a businessman, and looking at the total value this app provides....I would pay.....

-$12 w/ wolfram alpha

-$8 w/out wolfram alpha

Keep up the good work, and can't wait for your future releases.

---jarvis
[Android Apps and Games] nerys71:
my 2c? don't take this the wrong way I like it and it has potential but in my personaly opinion.

its just not very good. for me to pay $12 or $20 for a mobile app that I might not even be able to use in 12 months on a new phone.

it would to be truly amazing and have PERFECT nearly transparent integration into the phone. ie no jumping through loops to make it work.

even $8 is a small "fortune" for a mobile app.

I DO love its potential and its not impossible for an app to be worth $20 but it would have to REALLY do something special and do it well
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
I get those toasts fine. Strange.
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
I also believe that $8 to $20 is overkill. I rarely look at any app over $4-$5 on the play store or any other site. I disagree that Utter is just not that great. We are not in the Star Trek age yet where both voice recognition and artificial intelligence reign. We're years away yet, but as a technology based society we want it now. In the meantime Utter allows you to communicate both effectively and efficiently by utilizing workarounds that technology just doesn't provide yet. It takes a little input from you initially but after that works very well and remains consistent. My biggest problem with all of the virtual assistants is sometimes they work, sometimes they don't, and for the same command lines. Utter has helped us to bridge that gap and that's what makes it better. That's why we're on this post, so the developer can build a better mousetrap. Work with the features that have been provided and give it a fair shake. It gets better with every update and your opinion counts.
[Android Apps and Games] freak4dell:
I wouldn't price it at $12 or even $8. Regardless of how good an app is (and utter! is great), people won't even consider it at that price. If you need proof, just look at TSF Shell. It looks like a really beautiful launcher, but at almost $17, it's not even worth trying. There's no way you would get to try all the features before the 15 minute return window is over, so it's just not worth the risk.

The highest I would recommend would be $4.99.
[Android Apps and Games] IAmAN00bie:
I agree. This app needs some serious nerd-cred before you can expect it to be popular. Advertise it heavily throughout XDA, and Reddit is also a good place. Once that initial user-base buys in, then hopefully the app has enough users and ratings to break through to the general populace. The geeks are the one more likely to contribute to the database anyways, making it easier for the average user to enjoy the end product. I think $5 is a safe bet, but it needs some really good advertising beforehand otherwise not many people would be willing to shell out the money. Titanium Backup is well over $5 but it does so well because it's almost universally established as THE backup app for rooted users, so people aren't hesitant to spend money on it. utter! needs to become that kind of voice assitant.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for your thoughts on the pricing, it's certainly a tricky one...

Under the assumption that utter! performs to a high standard and has integration with some more applications, I hadn't considered a premium app anywhere over $3. As nerys71 and freak4dell say, $8 is a lot for an application (unfortunately!) and for this price, users would expect something flawless and exceptional. Whilst I'm working on this project alone, I don't have the resources to make that possible. If I had resources, I'd like to think I could push the boundaries on what can be achieved.

The $3 price I've had in my mind since the early stage of development, but that was before Wolfram Alpha wanted a $1 and there are also some other companies that would like a cut/charge to use their services too. It's all going to add up and make the entirely free model sadly impossible...

However, I'm going to polish up this version, release a feature packed YouTube video and tip off Android Police that it's gone beta and I'll see what happens over the coming weeks... I like to think the app has some unique features and with a bit of work from the user can be configured to be pretty damn useful.

It may be that having 100,000+ users will generate some income from the ads in the app, or perhaps a commercial funder will come forwarded seeing an angle in the application that appeals to them. We'll see...

I'd love to keep the app completely free, so anyone can download and enjoy it, without expecting or 'demanding' anything from it. I have to consider that quite a large market for me could be kids - and they can't pay anything, unless they borrow their parent's credit card details!

To summarise, definitely no high pricing level that will prevent mass-download, which according to recent articles and stats, is anything over 0 cents! Doh!

Anyway, looking forward to seeing what happens over the coming weeks - I shall be asking for your input again then please!!

Thanks folks :good:

EDIT: One more thing - The reason I've chosen to put kickstarter on hold is due to one of the necessary perks being a licence for the application once it is complete. That calls for a price to be set and if it is only $2, the chance of raising a substantial amount of funding with extra incentives of t-shirts, may be very slim.....
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Did you spot the above reply to the sound-effect bug? Is it still happening?

If you go into the app and the customisation tab, click on 'Community Phrases' - do you get the 'coming soon' toast? That uses a different implementation. As it seems to only be you suffering the toast issue, wondering if we can put it down to a custom ROM issue...? I've not changed anything in my code for that in many releases... Let me know, thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] IAmAN00bie:
Sending it to AndroidPolice is a genius idea, actually. Give them a full version to review, and with their review it will easily front-page /r/Android (with nearly 180k subscribers) because Reddit LOVES AP.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
That's where it all started from on the first video - I'll probably send them the APK with Wolfram Alpha enabled!!

For back page arrivals, the latest test build can be found here - I really need to put this in my signature! In fact, I'll do it right now!
[Android Apps and Games] lncoln:
I quoted those prices knowing that brandall would have to give a piece of his pie to several other entities for us to have integrations up the butthole.

As for TSF Shell, its just a launcher. Granted, the devs busted their butts, its still just a launcher. I agree, the price they're charging is about 4x's what I would pay....and still, thats just for their hard work.

I believe utter is far more usefull in a day to day use. Especially with everyone wanting their own "JARVIS" capable assistant at the price of a $1...one thing that i find wrong with todays society. Everyone thinks that in todays age, that your skills and experience are only worth half of what it was yesterday. That's why I wouldn't have a problem paying the $8 - $12 for it....fully complete w/ all the "goodies" of course. To have my own "JARVIS" is well worth the price I quoted...to me.

The $20 is what I'm going to donate to brandall for his work with this awesome app. I've donated a lot of $ to a lot of devs. But brandall's utter is the one that I feel is more than worth it. His reactions to criticism,attention to detail, and personal attention to the users is why I feel he deserves it. Of course, this my opinion, and others might be different.

To each his own, and thank you for this.

---jarvis
[Android Apps and Games] gloscherrybomb:
Strangely, the toast clipboard is now working! Now wondering if it is when the clipboard contains certain information or characters. I'll continue to test.

The laugh audio works fine in as media player. It is a .ogg.

This is the custom command...

Did you fart?

se~fart se~laugh
[Android Apps and Games] CarsnGadgets:
Android Police is a good Idea,

also the following sites would be worth submitting it to:

Android Central - http://www.androidcentral.com/

Androinica - http://androinica.com/

Android and Me - http://androidandme.com/

Also, if everyone on this forum Tweets about Utter and Posts on Facebook etc once the finished version is released

and shares the Youtube video It should help spread the word.
[Android Apps and Games] Extreme_One:
Ben,

Can you add a .nomedia file to your sfx folders so that they don't show up in our media libraries.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] rogerbrowne99:
I thought I would just give you my 2p on the subject of a chargeable utter.

It is true that you have to get the user to think to load utter as a must do as with Titanium, Tasker, Quickpic etc

However,

I'm writing now because there is a problem that Utter is so good there is a possiblity that prospective customers may be just happy to have it as it is right now. Decisions need to be made quickly, if you are going to take this route to decide what is beta chargeable and what is beta free.

What could be the difference?

You could have a time limit of 7 days usage but I dont think that ever works. When new features are added to the program unless the user wipes the phone they cannot download the program for another try.

I think the difference could be a "throttling" of the two programs with a free versiion giving a sample of the full experience and a premium version.

The free version would consist of a limit to a small number of requests (maybe 5-10 each) of

number of custom commands

replacement words

nicknames

community Phrases

Then the Premium would consist of

Unlimited numbers of the above plus

Ability to backup and restore

import and export of commands

On an another note, have you considered ChaCha as your primary search engine? It is free, has a unique methodology for searching and I think suits the character of Utter.
[Android Apps and Games] ltassos:
This is not an endorsement for any of the virtual assistants, but there are actually quite a few of them out there. Some are good, and some are not so good. The general population will tend to migrate toward the free apps first (some like Speaktoit are not bad at all and free is an additional enticement). Granted, utter! is better than all of these in my opinion (I have tried/purchased all of these) but how to convince anyone looking in the Play Store for an assistant that utter! at a price is better than some of these for free will be the challenge. The pricing strategy must be carefully considered, not based on what any of us would pay (because we are familiar with utter! and its capabilities and understand what it is worth) but rather based on getting those unfamiliar with utter! to give it a go.

Speaktoit Assistant -- Free

Skyvi	-- Free

Jeannie --	Free

Vlingo -- Free

Iris (Alpha) -- Free

AIVC (Alice) -- Free

AIVC(Pro) -- $ 2.34

Cyman Mark 2 -- Free

Andy	-- Free

Andy (Pro)	-- $ 1.99

Eva/Evan -- $ 9.99

AVX -- $19.99

Voice Actions Plus -- $ 2.99

Omega -- $ 6.99

Google Voice Search -- Free
[Android Apps and Games] GLDavis:
I too tried all of these and I actually bought Omega for $7 bucks simply because it worked the best for me. I uninstalled it only after using Utter for a short time. Point is Utter will be downloaded by those that are looking for an app that works RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.

Then you'll get the tinkerers (like us) that will want to explore all that Utter has to offer. When these two types discover how well it works the reviews will come in and that will help. Comments about the developers responsiveness will be a big factor as well.

I found Utter on Facebook the other day and posted it's features which is an excellent way to get people to see it. For a fee of $7 you can promote on Facebook which I never knew.

I believe Utter will win over the majority of people that try it. I believe that Android Police is a great idea and so the mission is to provide exposure.

Finally there will be the power users that I'm sure will spread the word once they see how powerful it's functions are.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Hi folks, just surfaced from falling asleep at my laptop! Will digest your posts shortly, can't thank you all enough for this feedback and the time you're taking over it.

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[Android Apps and Games] ttamirt:
great uupdates

thank you for adding great new features, nicknames, custom phrases and all.

- my AI level is back to 1.015. Tasker is linked fine.

- also I can't add launcher shortcut to display. it says successfull, but i don't see any icons on my screen. what should I do? I'm using Launcher Pro, CM7.2 rom.

currently i'm using shake to wake.

- I couldn't add sound effect to the Success phrase of Custom commands, it just reads 'se~fart' ... no sound. Sound effect works great on custom phrases.