yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Apps and Games] RoboJoe:
That's a very strange thing to say while typing on an open source operating system, isn't it?

Open source != free (as in beer), and using the same source != using the same trademark. Copycats would be missing one major component, anyway: the developer. If I have a bug or a suggestion, I can't go to the guy copying someone's source, can I? I don't mean to type this to convince the dev to open source it, only to clear up the obvious misconceptions you seem to have regarding open source software. Obviously, the dev will do whatever he feels like with his software.

And, hey, it makes no difference to me either way, I'm still excited about the product! :-)
[Android Apps and Games] mistermentality:
Nope, not strange at all. Because an operating system is open source doesn't mean the apps need to be too. Google gets their money out of ads so they can afford to give android away but the app developers also need a way to profit from their work if of course they don't give it away :)

I don't have misconceptions about open source btw though, my point was primarily that if he makes source available then other people would be able to profit monetarily from his work and create an influx of competition which would of course mean less reward for his work. But sometimes I'm not good at explaining what I mean though I do try.

I don't think there are that many open source android apps that do well for the developer but if there are then apologies in advance.

Its just if a developer has written something unique or superior to similar applications and wants to make something from it then open sourcing it doesn't seem the way they do it.

Dave
[Android Apps and Games] shawn13165:
Yes, running v2.1.7, log i have is really long and not quite sure if its right or not

and its too long to post here. I'll try in a little bit to get another
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Got spot! I know I'm listening for calls to stop speech, so maybe I'm destroying it somewhere by accident... I'll have a close look. Thanks for the feedback.

You can always send it to me in an email benrandall76@gmail.com . Let me know if you need any guidance of course. Thanks in advance.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
V2.1.8A up!

Hey folks, another launcher update:

Fixed the launcher shortcut force close (I hope). Thanks to shawn13165 for the log.

What's new?

What's the weather like?

What's the weather doing outside?

What's going down with the weather?

etc...

What's the weather like in City, Country/State?

BUGS

The weather API I'm using (the same as for the time) is rubbish for City/State queries and is still limited to only two words. I'll be changing it soon.

For other bugs, recent changes, command list, setting up the launcher shortcut, please start here and following the links in that post.
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Just curious if u looked at the new Google voice search its pretty cool looking they were showing it off at the Google I/O but I'm still pretty sure that nothing out there on any platform will be as awesome as this app in its final form! :D:D:D

Edit: O by the way! Since the new update utter! Has been crashing out of no where. Is this happening with anyone else and could you tell me how to get the log cuz I was trying to find the log to copy and post here but couldn't find it!!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Just about to have a look now! I hope you're right! :DD
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
I think I am! I mean we all know your an amazing developer and you've been doing an awesome job with this app! O yeah by the way I don't know if anyone has said this but my girlfriend brought it up and you should make it so that if u say "call John Doe" it should then ask whether u want to call mobile or home if you don't specify or if it only has one it should automatically call that one!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for your kind words :) I checked out what was written about the new Google Voice Search and it seems to be an 'in-app' experience they are going for... Hopefully utter! not having that 'restriction' will set it apart...

Liking your gf's idea :) It shouldn't be too difficult to add. I'll get on with it! Thanks for the suggestion.

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[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Just seen your edit - this post shows you how to get a log from System Tuner. It's a great app, and free! Unless you can'y help but upgrade to Pro like I did...

It's a 5 second job to filter the log by com.brandall.nutter or 'killed application'.

Thanks in advance!

btw - does anyone use another way of getting logs that they think is easier?? Please do share if you do! I really should have built in auto-logging a long time ago...
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Text and Emails suggestions

Hi folks, was after your opinions please:

I'm just about to implement text and email functions, but I'm not sure of the best approach in regard to the commands. I definitely want there to be an option to complete the voice request in one single voice statement, but:

"Email Joe Blogs, what you up to today?"

"Email Joe Blogs at work/gmail/Facebook/home [subject]S'up dude [body]what you up to today? Send with/without checking"

Looking at the above, there are too many eventualities to detect natural speech without working on the algorithm for a long time... I don't have the time right now on the run to beta, so I need an approach in the mean time.

An alternative is to get utter! to ask at every point:

Email Joe Blogs

"What do you want the subject to be?"

Blar

"What do you want...

etc etc..

But that's a little OTT...

I can't realistically do:

"Email Joe Blogs what you up to today?" (two word contact)

Because of:

"Email Mum what you up to today?" (one word contact)

There's no fast way of detecting where the contact finishes and the body of the message starts, not to mention what to do if there are multiple emails listed and the requirement for a subject line...

So, thoughts please guys! Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] mahootzki:
I think it should ask:

"email Joe blogs"

Utter! What's the subject

"Dinner tonight"

Utter! Email body?

"blah blah blah blah "

I don't think that's too much.

Also, how will it know which of my email addresses to use? I have 4....

___________

Sent from Brooklyn NY using a Black Iced Galaxy Nexus!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for your thoughts. How would you expect/want to define the email address to use? One of the email addresses will be marked as primary, so I can default to that, otherwise would you want to say 'at work' or 'at yahoo!' etc ?

EDIT: I've just seen that the email fields don't have work, home etc. So it would have to be by domain I guess..

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[Android Apps and Games] mahootzki:
I guess I could say

"Email Joe blogs using my mahootzki email account" (if not, then it should obviously use the primary

___________

Sent from Brooklyn NY using a Black Iced Galaxy Nexus!
[Android Apps and Games] shawn13165:
That seems to be the easiest way to do it. I have 2 main email accounts that i use, but a default account with a way to switch sounds good
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Cool, I'll see what I can come up with.

Cool. Did 2.1.8 fix your crash?

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[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
No crashes still happening! Especially in the twitter tab every time I go to it! And I got the app you told me to to get logs but I couldn't figure it out for the life of me!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Doh! Really thought I'd solved them all...

For the log, if you go into System Tuner and hit the logs button the output will be set to everything. There's a filter button where you can select only the output for a single app. If com.brandall.nutter is there, great! If not, it may not be running or be under the filter of 'killed apps'. It's the red coloured output you're particularly after as that contains the crash details. Then there's a save button somewhere and it'll appear on your sdcard. You can paste the contents in here and wrap it in [coade] quotes [/coade] (without the 'a'!) Let me know if can't catch the crash and I'll talk you through it on gtalk or something.

Thanks in advance!

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[Android Apps and Games] beddess:
new crash

i have a new crash

E/17:22:41.101 AndroidRuntime( 788)
at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method)
E/17:22:41.101 AndroidRuntime( 788)
at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:839)
E/17:22:41.101 AndroidRuntime( 788)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method)
E/17:22:41.101 AndroidRuntime( 788)
at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:130)
E/17:22:41.101 AndroidRuntime( 788)
at android.app.ActivityThread$H.handleMessage(ActivityThread.java:1087)
E/17:22:41.101 AndroidRuntime( 788)
FATAL EXCEPTION: main
D/17:22:41.093 AndroidRuntime( 788)
Shutting down VM
W/17:22:41.062 ActivityManager( 252)
at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:130)
W/17:22:41.062 ActivityManager( 252)
at android.os.Handler.handleCallback(Handler.java:587)
W/17:22:41.062 ActivityManager( 252)
at com.android.server.NotificationManagerService.enqueueNotificationInternal(NotificationManagerService.java:914)
W/17:22:41.062 ActivityManager( 252)
Error showing notification for service
W/17:22:41.031 CursorWrapperInner( 788)
Cursor finalized without prior close()
I/17:22:40.992 SpeechServiceHttpClient(32124)
Closing the HTTP client.
I/17:22:40.921 RecognitionControllerImpl(32124)
State change: RECOGNIZED -> CANCELED
I/17:22:40.914 ServerConnectorImpl(32124)
ClientReport{session_id=848e89939f1c005e055dfd7807f63fc6,request_id=1,application_id=intent-speech-api,client_perceived_request_status=0,request_ack_latency_ms=107,total_latency_ms=2351,user_perceived_latency_ms=194,network_type=1,endpoint_trigger_type=3,}
I/17:22:40.867 RecognitionControllerImpl(32124)
State change: RECOGNIZING -> RECOGNIZED
E/17:22:40.757 Utils (32124)
No Hypothesis in RecognitionResult
D/17:22:40.710 AudioHardwareMot( 183)
doRouting devs: stereo 0x2, mono 0, input 0. Chose speaker Speakerphone (gain 0xb) mic None (gain 0x1c1c)
E/17:22:40.710 AudioHardwareMot( 183)
Error:Unsupported input path
D/17:22:40.710 AcousticsModule( 183)
Acoustics close stub called.
I/17:22:40.664 AudioService( 252)
AudioFocus abandonAudioFocus() from android.media.AudioManager@4053e2e8
D/17:22:40.484 dalvikvm(32603)
GC_CONCURRENT freed 1231K, 46% free 5588K/10183K, external 3150K/3934K, paused 2ms+4ms
I/17:22:40.210 ServerConnectorImpl(32124)
Response: Gaia Result missing
I/17:22:40.015 ServerConnectorImpl(32124)
Response: Gaia Result missing
I/17:22:40.007 ServerConnectorImpl(32124)
Response: Gaia Result missing
I/17:22:40.007 ServerConnectorImpl(32124)
Response: Gaia Result missing
E/17:22:39.968 Utils (32124)
No Hypothesis in RecognitionResult
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
V2.1.8.1A - crash fix?

Hi folks, hope this fixes the crashes some of you are getting from the launcher shortcut / Tasker shake (attempt 3).

Let me know! :eek:

EDIT: Tucked away in this release is:

Search Google blar blar blar

Search Bing blar blar blar

Search Yahoo blar blar blar

Search /for picture(s)/image(s) /of blar blar

Yahoo doesn't want to work on Google Chrome beta for me. Very basic implementation, but you may as well give it a run out if you want!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Good work :) It's a strange one indeed. Can only find one random reference to it... No clues within the log to whether (n)utter! caused it, or not...?

If it happens again, please let me know!
[Android Apps and Games] alen1901:
Install final google chrome, its on the market. ;)

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[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Oh! Thanks. Haven't updated my apps for a while!

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[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Hey brandall so I tried to catch the crash through the app u told me! And it didn't seem to say it was crashing but it still is on twitter! And yes I did install the most recent update!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Ok, try this:

Open nutter

Press Home to leave nutter running

Open System Tuner and the logs tab

Press clear

Press filter and select com.brandall.nutter

Long-press-home and select nutter

Replicate the crash

Long-press-home and open System Tuner (should be immediately to the logs page)

If no red crash details are shown, press filter and select killed apps

Hopefully that will show you the crash log of nutter.

Freeze

Save

Paste sdcard file contents here!

If it doesn't work, do the above but don't filter by com.brandall.nutter, just leave the log output alone. After the crash, freeze and save the log. Email it to me if you'd prefer.

Thanks in advance!

Ps. I've had the problem of getting the output to display before, so it's not you!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
V2.1.8.2A - crash work-around

Hey folks, I'm struggling to solve the crash that some of you are getting. In the mean time, I've removed the notification for those devices that it will crash for.

The notification is usually displayed when utter! is listening and gets cancelled when it stops. You'll still get haptic feedback on detection of voice input, just no visual confirmation that utter! is listening. The only time this may be an issue is if the listener goes in to a loop - it would be harder for you to know.

Anyway, the attached is a work-around until I find the source of the problem.

For new users, you'll have to check a few pages back for commands and release notes.
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
I believe I just emailed it to u! I looked at ur profile and if the paypal gmail is the one u use it should be there!
[Android Apps and Games] rmiles7721:
Jellybean

(n)utter! working so far so good on Jellybean. I'm using it with the Jelly Belly 1.6 Rom and LeanKernel with Svox Victoria.
[Android Apps and Games] mahootzki:
Jelly bean 1.6???

___________

Sent from Brooklyn NY using a Jelly Beaned Galaxy Nexus!
[Android Apps and Games] rmiles7721:
Jelly Belly is the name of the rom. Easily mistaken for Jelly Bean though as a matter of fact that's how I read it the first time I saw the thread. He's updating it pretty quickly running version 1.7 now.

So there are apparently two entirely different JB roms called Jelly Belly. One which has a discussion here and one which is hosted at an entirely different forum. Running that one myself. Anyhow, now that I have gotten entirely off topic...
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
V2.1.9A - New features + crash work-around?

Hey folks, was struck down by manflu for a while... not good timing..

Anyway, another (different) attempt at stopping the launcher shortcut crash is included. There's a dodgy looking 'create shortcut' button on the Home-Tab of nutter to save you having to use another method to create it - hope it works!

Haven't fixed the Twitter crash as yet...

Also included:

"What's/what is my battery level/health/status/voltage/temperature ?"

You'll have to head backwards in the thread to see other recently added commands. I'm in a hurry!

Gotta dash! Things to do!

EDIT: I'm getting a 404 on the attachment? Anyone else download it ok?
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Yea can't get it! Says problem parsing the pacage!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks - I'll try it in this post!

EDIT: Still doesn't work for me... Perhaps a problem with the XDA server? I'll give it 30 minutes and try again...

EDIT2: I'm not alone in the 404 issue - see here. I've PM'd a mod, so hopefully will be sorted soon!
[Android Apps and Games] MemoryController:
Can download fine here
[Android Apps and Games] AndrBoy:
Siri who?

Great job man!

Thanks!:good:
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks, issue seems to have been fixed now.

Thank you thank you :)
[Android Apps and Games] shawn13165:
Finally getting caught up with the thread. Had been getting quite a few random respawns. Just updated to the newest version so will repost if it continues. And it just said respawn as I was typing this. Running stock ICS on droid razr with default google voice engine.

Ok, havent heard respawn since right after updating.

Had another random respawn after last update
[Android Apps and Games] Jamalsid:
Brandall

proberly a bit late for you but

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/09/kickstarter-comes-to-the-UK/

kickstarter is to start supporting projects in the UK soon.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for the link Jamalsid, it's about time they did that... I've teamed up with an American publishing company, so utter! will appear on Kickstarter yesterday!

Manflu put me a few days behind... but next four/five days, it should finally get on there.
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Once it appears on kick starter will you put the link here so we may all watch it because I'm sure we are all quite anxious!!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
I will indeed :) Hoping you will all use the power of social media to spread it around...

(n)utter! as you knew it is no more.... Cleared out the old tab-based app and replaced with only settings, so utter! can ONLY be used via launcher-shortcut, shake, or long-press-search.

Hopefully I've fixed all of the bugs.

Posting apk shortly - Most critical feedback ever needed please, as the apk will be linked from Kickstarter and I want the 'demo some features' version to be 'clean and presentable' and bug free for the limited functions it will contain!!

Should be up in about 30 mins...

I thank you in advance as always.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
V2.1.9.1A up! - All new look.. More functions!

Hey folks, so, with Kickstarter supposed to be out 2 days ago, I'm currently not sleeping until, well, forever...

(n)utter! as you knew it, is no more... Never again will I/you have to hear "Welcome to (n)utter!" - It drove me insane. This is the test version of (n)utter! that will be linked to from Kickstarter. I wanted a version that demoed a few features, the ones that don't crash and needed to sort the UI out.

I've implemented my own shake function. It can be toggled from the inside the app. There is the option there to create a launcher shortcut too. (n)utter! should automatically be assigned to long-press-search, assuming you have such a button...

Command list is in the app too!

TO-DO

(in the short-term)

Deactivate shake detection when the screen goes off.

Get the voice-results overlay working again - it was causing the crashes.

Find some cool, matching icons for the initial app page.

Remove respawn and other recogniser error announcements.

Retain list position on rotation.

BUGS

The usual lag and loops with IVONA and SVOX... None with Google ICS voice...

If you don't have Google Earth installed, the 'fly to' function will crash. Need install prompt.

Let me know if you think the UI is ok for now? It's the best I can come up with being artistically disabled...

Would appreciate some gloves-off feedback, I can take it. Just need to know if you think this will be a sufficient demo that folks from Kickstarter can have a play with. There will be more features added over the next couple of days.

Thanks in advance!

Ps. You may have to uninstall your current version of (n)utter! to install this one - perhaps.
[Android Apps and Games] eisenbathb:
Ok so honestly I really like the new UI you have implemented it is simple and easy to use and it doesn't need to be all that fancy I find it perfect!! For the shake to wake you have implemented it is way to easy to wake it there should be an option to change sensitivity. The command list really nice easy to use I like it! Other than that looking good everywhere else! :)

Edit: when I try to open some of my apps (n)utter seems to stutters very badly! Its as if its trying to say it but can get it out and open the applications at the same time!
[Android Apps and Games] Blurrix:
Must say well done! Really like the UI, simple, and easy to use, and the theme is perfect. No bugs found so far I'll keep you updated.
[Android Apps and Games] CarsnGadgets:
Hi Brandall,

really liking the interface.

One problem though, I cant get shake to wake to work on my Samsung Galaxy S2?

I have tried turning it on and off in settings but no change.

(I installed the latest version after uninstalling the previous one.)

also, it keeps saying "respawn" to me.
[Android Apps and Games] mahootzki:
Omg! This is sick, love what you did so far, had no doubt it would be awesome...

Can't wait to be able to help in kickstarter.

Was away for awhile with some personal issues, sorry I couldn't help more..

___________

Sent from Brooklyn NY using a Jelly Beaned Galaxy Nexus!
[Android Apps and Games] boalovewjl:
lol thanks you
[Android Apps and Games] wwcjr91:
I've been following this for a little bit and the improvements from a few weeks ago are awesome. You are a hard worker Brandall. This shows first of all in your support here(responding to everybody's posts) and second in all of your updates.

Something I'm hoping for:

A conversational experience with utter. I realize this would probably take a lot more work, trying to include a bunch of different commands. For instance, I loved being able to ask S Voice what the meaning of life was.

Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for the feedback! The app algorithm seems really slow on some devices and also gets slower the longer the device has been awake... It's odd and I'm trying to solve. After a reboot you might find this doesn't occur??

EDIT: Sensitivity option is actually quite easy - I just couldn't find a way to make it look right in the UI... I'll sort something...

Thank you thank you :)

hmmm... Which voice engine are you using? The 'respawn' is a sign that Android is limiting the resource utter! is able to use. After you switch shake on in the app, if you go to the TTS settings and press 'listen to a sample', what happens?

Thank you, and glad to see you're back. Hope all is well.

Thanks for your kind words. I'm gutted that I haven't been able to spend time increasing the 'intelligence' of utter! Since I dived into the world of Java, I've spent 95% of my time understanding that, and a very small remainder improving utter! since its YouTube demo.. :crying: I look forward to that changing if the Kickstarter is successful... Fingers crossed.

I do have algorithms for the meaning of life, films, shopping, how tall, who is, what is etc etc, but until I make them compare to the competition, I'll keep them for just my device!

EDIT: For back-page stragglers, latest release can be found here
[Android Apps and Games] mahootzki:
I get a lot of out of the blue "respond" commands.

___________

Sent from Brooklyn NY using a Jelly Beaned Galaxy Nexus!
[Android Apps and Games] shawn13165:
Same here
[Android Apps and Games] 99problemz:
Same here I also get the voice thing is stuck in a loop.. apart from that the ui is simple and amazing I like it.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks, I'll disable it in the next version. It's almost always Android managing resources and restarting utter! in the background. I could make the app 'persistent', but there's something psychological about having a permanent icon to tell you an app is running, that's associated with battery drain... Or is that just me?!

Thanks :) The loop is a problem which I've been unable to solve. I'm running a half-way fix and it seems better, so will update to that in the next release, but with IVONA and SVOX my custom recogniser just won't play nicely... It's annoying..

EDIT: Back-page stragglers - the latest release can be found here
[Android Apps and Games] jonas2295:
Not sure if it's a bug but I did some testing with nutter etc and then turned off the shake option. Everything went well and it didn't start as it was meant to not start :)

But it said something randomly 2 times. I couldn't understand what it said but it was short for sure.

Going to sleep now but yeah the new ui rocks and it gets close to a utter app :P
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks, I'd place a bet on it being the 'respawn' issue mentioned above. I'll stop announcing it in the next release :cowboy:
[Android Apps and Games] iisniperzzz:
Is it possible to put integrate Google now with this. When you say "search Google for" it will pull up the Google now cards. Keep up the good work. Great app!!! \(^.^)/