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[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
@ SatAmnesiac

Both Sky Go and BT sport app's run on my Note 2 running JB 4.1.2 stock but as you are running a custom ROM Sky Go is not going to work.

"What I don't get is why do Sky make it sooo hard"?

When Sky first started they had a monopoly over all others on the mobile platform and they decided how when where their customers could use this service and they made a lot of silly policy's that they have enforced over time with silly reasons and excuses as to why they have them and then they started to move the goal post's and at the same time realizing they had a dropped a big one started to blame anybody and everybody else to try and cover up their own policy mess up. The best 1 they said HBO their main content provider stops them for showing content on 10" android tabs lol. Now there is a new player in the market Sky have a lot of ground to make up in how they develop this sky go android tab app only. I done this the other day:--

So what does Sky need to do to get back into the game with their Android Tablet only app for Sky Go now that BT Sport app is on the scene.

The BT Sport app streams in HD and a great UI and is smooth to swipe and has all the information you need to watch a channel.

You can register as many devices as you want with BT and watch 2 live streams concurrently.

Rooted devices can use the app.

HDMI out has not been blocked.

The app streams without picture break up or freezing and takes around 10 secs to stream when a channel is selected.

App tested for 10hrs straight and no lose of stream, no freeze or picture break up.

So Sky has to develop their Android tablet app so that it is at least on a par with the BT app if not better if they have any hope

of retaining customers.

Forum CC's are saying that as the BT started from nothing it's was a lot easier for them than it is for Sky to have such a good app, Well if

what MD Alan Webber says in his second update statement is true and correct then this tablet only app is being developed from nothing

just like the BT app was and hence has no excuse for it not to deliver HQ streaming, no stream freeze, picture break up et al and open support

for most android tablet devices.

So we have to ask ourselves will Sky deliver on time?

With their past track record highly unlikely.

Will the streams be HQ quality?

Pass but would say not likely as they have not improved their streams since Sky Go was released in 2011.

Will we be able to register unlimited devices but only use 2 at the same time?

Highly unlikely given that they charge £5 a month to add 2 extra devices at present.

Will Sky allow rooted Tabs access to this new app?

Again highly unlikely as they inform us that their contracts will not allow this.

Will Sky unblock HDMI out?

According to Sky NO as their contracts will not allow them.

So all in all Sky have a lot of work to do to keep their customers happy which is something Sky have ignored for far to long.

At the end of the day time will tell us if sky really want to support fully 10" Android Tabs, Actions speak louder than words.

I expect I missed some-things out but the main areas are covered
[Android Apps and Games] SatAmnesiac:
On my phone (a Note GT-N7000) I'm running completely stock 4.0.4 - Sky Go runs on this fine, BT Sport doesn't.

I can root and unroot the phone at will, and so this gives me the compromise I'm happy with - I have a rooted phone for day to day use, on the odd occasion I want to unroot and watch Sky Go I can.

BT Sports app doesn't want to run on this device on 4.0.4 - despite the app being for 4.0.3 and above.

On balance I think I can live without BT Sport on the phone as it's rarely that I watch TV on the go anyway, but the convenience would be nice. If BT Sport release a version that would work on my phone I'd be delighted!

On my tablet (a Note 10.1 GT-N8010) I'm now running completely stock 4.1.2, but rooted - Sky Go wouldn't run on this without rooting, spoofing the id, & unrooting (which I'm not going to do) anyway, and BT Sport runs fine.

Fingers crossed for an updated BT Sports app.
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
SatAmnesiac,

Interesting as we are talking about this on the BT forum because it just does not make sense, OSG Tab 10.1 running ICS 4.0.4 works perfectly and yet phones running the same don't is crazy and so I said this lol "Thinking out aloud maybe BT have done a device specific bit of code in the app just for OSG Tab 10.1 running ICS 4.0.4 as it's on their supported list? Interesting will try and find out later if this is the case" and have asked the MOD's to reply or find out. We will be able to beta test Sky Go in 8 or so weeks time as long as Sky don't let the time slip which is normally their want
[Android Apps and Games] SatAmnesiac:
Yes - and BT Sport didn't work on my Note 10.1 when it was running 4.0.4 either (perhaps its something to do with the support libraries for the stylus on the Note devices); It's been years since I worked in the industry but I cant imagine it's got any better so it wouldn't surprise me that there are things in some device builds that are different in others for very similar devices from the same vendor & while the stock build's from the handset mfgs are not necessarily all that... the OpCo versions of handset firmware can make them look like rocket scientists!

Ahh well.
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
It does seem hit and miss at the moment Note10.1 running JB works ok but Not running ICS. Another crazy 1 that has popped up is SG Tab2 10.1 some have a jerky stream on Ch1 all other channels are ok.

Hey came across this yesterday:--

Sky invests in video delivery firm 1 Mainstream

August 5, 2013

1 MainstreamBSkyB has acquired US$2 million (€1.5 million) of convertible debt security in US-based distribution platform for linear and on-demand video, 1 Mainstream.

Sky said that on top of the securities, which can typically be changed into equity or stocks, it has also concluded a commercial agreement with 1 Mainstream covering the use of its technology.

The California-based early stage technology company, has built a platform that allows partners to launch streaming video applications across third-party devices such as tablets, smart TVs, game consoles and other streaming devices.

1 Mainstream already powers the Sky News apps for Apple TV and Roku devices, and also works across devices and services such as Google TV and TiVo.

The firm says that it enables native apps to be created “in hours with the push of a button,” allowing content networks and distributors to focus on content. 1 Mainstream also takes care of billing and advertising and says that is covers “over 80% of all high engagement devices today” and has its sights set on the remaining 20%.

So maybe at long last the penny has dropped at Sky that Apple no longer rules the waves lol, I wonder what reason/excuse they will use for not using the part I put in bold lol
[Android Apps and Games] northantsandy:
Tantalisingly Close do HDMI on Galaxy S2

With my S2 rooted, I was able to get a working output from SkyGo to a point by virtually disabling HDMI.

I discovered the app Virtual HDMI Switch over at FreakTab which worked...

....well it disabled the HDMI so i didn't get an error message on my telly connected via MHL...what I got was the "cannot play on rooted devices".

So this app works, but Catch22 because only works on rooted devices and you know what won't allow that..

...it feels kinda like progress though...
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Great news from sky the other days, 4 new phones having been in testing for a month are now supported plus the new nexus 7. The really bad news is that none of the 4 phones will work with sky go app. Work that one out if you can lol
[Android Apps and Games] Slymobi:
Sky doesn't support HDMI !!!

wtf

tried slimport and got the above lol.

sky really are out of date and really beginning to pi** me off.

BT sports is absolute quality, stream is perfect, no restriction on root and works with slimport perfectly.

sky get your act together.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android Apps and Games] Restorer:
Sky have disabled HDMI-out because they do not want you using the Sky Go service as a free Multiroom substitute - in case they lose subscribers. What they don't really get though is that Sky Go is low res and looks piss-poor on large screens and that Multiroom is a totally different and far superior service anyway (separate box, full channel list, HD etc) :mad:.
[Android Apps and Games] mcdevtingz:
Sky Go app is such bad quality compared to BT Sport app which is HD
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Well it's surely going to be interesting month to see what sort of mess Sky have made on this Android Tab only app for sky go, If the stream quality is the same as present then they can shove it were the sun don't shine lol.
[Android Apps and Games] gadgetman04:
Any way to get sky go working on android yet? i tried hide my root but it didn't work :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Have you even bothered to read the thread??
[Android Apps and Games] gadgetman04:
I tried! There's 293 pages!!
[Android Apps and Games] wifiuk:
lol, yeah there are 293 pages, can someone provide a summary on how they got it working please for a Galaxy S4 ? or post it on the first page
[Android Apps and Games] gadgetman04:
Don't think it is working that's why it's so silent in here!
[Android Apps and Games] wifiuk:
Of all the smart devs and people here we must be able to out smart sky and use our paid for subscriptions on our own rooted devices.
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Like I said before read some of the thread no need to read it all some people have got it working on some devices very hit and miss try reading the last 20 pages, doubt the discussion on it is that far back tbh
[Android Apps and Games] gadgetman04:
Just went through the last bit and still no clue! Never mind
[Android Apps and Games] wifiuk:
there must be a way around it
[Android Apps and Games] mcdevtingz:
Not really no.

Not with the current version anyway
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Latest from Sky:---

In July we committed to enabling access to Sky Go on Android Tablets, and during the last 6 weeks we have had over 100 staff using the application across a selection of popular devices. Based on the results of these trials, I am pleased to announce that we are shortly going to be ready to invite customers to join our Beta Trial.

In the next few days we're going to be publishing details on the forum of how to join the customer Beta and on device support

Thank you again for your patience.

So if it's a closed beta then most customers still have another 2 month wait to get their hands on the app, If it's an open beta then we may not have long to wait. Alun Webbers statement indicates an open beta but those that followed have said things like "selected customers, those we invite to take part and so on", So some of us look like we will be 3rd class customers behind their apple customers and these beta customers
[Android Apps and Games] mcdevtingz:
Someone might be able to leak the beta
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
I hope someone can otherwise I'm porked being banned from the Forum, I'll not get a chance of applying for it lol
[Android Apps and Games] wifiuk:
Just want to be able to run it on a rooted s4
[Android Apps and Games] Restorer:
Well it depends what you mean by "open". I doubt they will just be publishing a link for all to use. I would guess it will be offered via Google Groups in the same way the recent Sky+ app for Android trial was. This way they can control downloads via the Play Store as well as directing feedback sensibly. It will mean registering with that group via a valid Sky ID presumably through the Sky Help Forum though there may well be other routes available.
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
I wonder when "In a few days" will be lol as Sky seem to have no concept of time lol A few days to Sky is measured in weeks if they go true to form. I'll have to find out what this Google groups is all about.

Has anyone had a look at the apk Sky put out a few weeks ago for the S4 mini that does not work in Google play?

http://apps.sky.com/skygoandroid/skygo3.2.apk
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Some info posted last night on Sky Forum about the beta trial:--

The app will be available to almost all 7” tablets or larger, running Android v4.0 and above.

In our internal trials we have tested across some of the most popular 10" devices from Samsung (Note 10.1 and Tab2 10), Asus (Transformer Prime TF201), Google (Nexus 10), and Sony (Xperia Z Tablet), as well as existing 7" devices (Samsung Tab2/Tab 3 and the Google Nexus 7). We’re not able to test all Android tablets but we are keen to understand how many other devices can support Sky Go, so that we can open Sky Go out to as many customers as possible in future.

In testing we have found unresolvable issues with the Asus Transformer Prime (TF101 model) while streaming live content, therefore Sky Go is not able to support this device.

Please note the app will not be available on Amazon Kindle devices due to technical and commercial reasons.
[Android Apps and Games] Yuccaman:
Any Nexus 7 owners (2012 or 2013) tried the MultiROM mod to maintain a stock, non-rooted ROM for apps like Sky Go ?

I'm assuming Sky is looking for the presence of the su binary or superuser.apk (or it's variants) so if there is a custom kernal and custom recovery (required for MultiROM), it won't care about these (hopefully).

Just wanting to know if anyone had tried with or without success before deciding whether to take the plunge myself....

Cheers,
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Yuccaman,

Next month Sky will be releasing an app for Sky Go tablet, it's in beta testing at present, next month so you can try it then

iechyd da
[Android Apps and Games] mark747eagle:
Sky Go and Root

has no-one found a way round the root problem. I think, looking at the permissions, it checks for access to protected storage. Maybe there is a way of fooling the app? Or a routine to protect storage when Sky Go is started, and then unprotect when Sky Go closes?

I had it running on an HTC Sensation EX until I rooted and changed the kernel and ROM. The check seems to take place each time an attempt is made to watch a live stream.So now I get the familiar Media Streaming notice "Sky Go is not supported on rooted Android devices".

Superuser has a 'temp unroot' option (not guaranteed to work on all devices) - but haven't tried it yet.

Any thoughts?

Update - the temp unroot option either doesn't work on this device, or its not fooling Sky Go!

---------- Post added at 10:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 AM ----------

Update - the temp unroot option either doesn't work on this device, or its not fooling Sky Go!
[Android Apps and Games] FleetFanatic:
I am running Wanamlite 7.2 on my s3 and have Sky Go running. :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] lsmith80:
Have you got it working without having to hide root or superuser?
[Android Apps and Games] FleetFanatic:
Nope. Hide my root worked on Wanamlite. Yet didn't on Omega. So what does Wanamlite not have that Omega does, is what I wonder?

Almost like a reverse engineer.
[Android Apps and Games] lsmith80:
I assume you have I9300 the ROMS look quite different but I have S3 LTE so unfortunately cannot test :(
[Android Apps and Games] FleetFanatic:
Yes the I9300, not quite tempted by 4G just yet. Sky Go runs fine on 3G, so I don't have any real need for speed.
[Android Apps and Games] lsmith80:
With any look an interested Dev will come across your post and see how Wanamlite is configured differently, then maybe we can have an .apk that works again.
[Android Apps and Games] netvlada:
Sky Go on Android box????

Hi to all

I have android box with 4.2 os and is there some chance to make it work.I have two os one is with and one is without root.With rooted image i can install it and there is massage thet my device is not supported and on image with root access i can install it but there is massage thet i need wi-fi or 3g network, but i have it turn it on.
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Take a guess...... 2 options **hint it's not yes...
[Android Apps and Games] Sten1234:
Hi I have a Galaxy S3 and I've just found this a few pages back, could someone tell me if this method still works? if it does then I'll root my phone again as I haven't had a rooted phone since sky go came out. If this does still work does it only work on stock rom's and kernel's or does it work on custom roms also? Any help would be appreciated
[Android Apps and Games] Sten1234:
Hellloooo! Anybody home? Does the method in my question (previous post) still work or not?
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Why not try it yourself?
[Android Apps and Games] Sten1234:
I shouldn't even waste my time answering your dumb question because surely you know the answer but I'll tell you anyway. For one it would save me alot of time and effort having to root and then unroot. And two, if it doesn't work i would probably have to wipe my phone to get it back to how it is now, when all it takes is a simple yes or no on here instead.
[Android Apps and Games] TheIntruder:
Who you calling names? As with most here expect others to do the work for you, stop spamming the thread and try it or sit on your hands!!
[Android Apps and Games] mannanshaikh95:
This App Will Work On GT S5302 [2.3+]

sir this app is work on GT S5302
[Android Apps and Games] Sten1234:
Who's calling who name's? Can you read? So tell me, what is the point in having threads like this if people cant ask if things work or not? I'm not asking for anybody to sit there and root there own phone and test it out i'm asking if anybody has had that method working or knows if it does. You must be a sad individual to sit there replying petty reply's to peoples posts, it would of been much easier to just say yes, no or nothing at all.
[Android Apps and Games] gumbald:
The fact that nobody replied to your original post therefore probably means that nobody knows, it'll take someone to try it.
[Android Apps and Games] Zammo76:
Wow Sky has finally released a dedicated tablet app that supports most 7" or larger apps (including the Nexus 10, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1), I've just tried it on my trusty old Xoom and it installs goes to run but because its rooted displays a message saying its not supported on rooted devices. But its a start!

I guess Sky's exclusivity deal with Apple for large tablets has finally expired!

So far to get it working on my rooted Xoom I've tried Vodoo OTA Root keeper but this failed. I'm going to give Hide My Root a go next and see if that fools the app. If not I think I have an unrooted clockwork image I can flash back to.
[Android Apps and Games] warface:
It's actually a decent effort. Seems to run a lot better and faster on my N7 than the phone version.

We just need it to work on a rooted device now!
[Android Apps and Games] Zammo76:
I'm working on it, but I'm no hacker. I've just tried the Hide My Root app and thought at first it'd worked as it played a commercial before displaying the dreaded 'unsupported on rooted devices' message when it tried to play the programme.

I guess that just leaves flashing my clockwork stock image but even if that works its a bit of a pain (and slow) to do that every time I want to watch Sky Go.
[Android Apps and Games] dog-man:
It has been running well (ish) on my Gedified Xoom since day one.

I was part of the beta test.

Strangely, mine works better at work than it does at home and I have a faster internet service (Fibre 80/20). I struggle to see why.
[Android Apps and Games] nikotime:
Haven't been able to get the new tablet app running on my Nook HD+ due to it being rooted, alas. Hide my root didn't work for me.
[Android Apps and Games] mcdevtingz:
Has anyone noticed an increase in pifture quality?

Got a N7 not sure myself
[Android Apps and Games] weirdsciencex:
I was watching the match the other day and thought that the picture quality had improved. I was on WiFi though. Not sure what its like on 3G, phones rooted so can't test it.

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[Android Apps and Games] harrycolonicJR:
i know it states this is not for the kindle fire, but has anyone tried sideloading it? or can someone up the tablet apk for me to try?
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
Sky are messing about with the sports streams quality to try to improve them and that was the reason the app was not pushed out to the wild until 4pm. Why they left it so late to do this is beyond me but they have done 1 thing and that is to mess the quality up big time. Like Dog man I was on the beta from day 1 and this is the worst streaming quality I've seen and is getting worst not better. I still think they have big problems with their backend not being able to cope with the extra demand.
[Android Apps and Games] Riki1kenobi:
Sky are merging the Sky Go app and the Sky sports mobile app in February or March. Which either means that those currently subscribed to the latter will be booted or will now be considered fully paid up sky customers. Which we aren't at the moment.

I'm supposedly a temporary sky customer as I'm subscribed to the mobile app but I cannot get sky go because I need to have a current sky subscription (according to sky).

I've asked what this means when they merge the two and have had totally conflicting responses.

Guessing it'll be another major fk up that'll leave people paying for a service that is next to unusable.
[Android Apps and Games] AJMoose:
Hi guys

1st post so be gentle;) I'm also first time android user:confused:

but when i saw the oppo n1 i just had to have one, anyway didn;t realise that theres was so much fun to have in the android worls with modded rom's ect ect, also didn;t realise that certain devices are supported by certain app:silly:

If anybody could help me get the Sky go app on the Oppo n1 I'd be very greatfull
[Android Apps and Games] 8eaker:
Think you'll be lucky to get it working on oppo tbh, but someone here may come up with a solution. One thing I have learnt is it's not worth choosing you phone based on sky support. You pay them a fortune then they allow you to access their service if you have a chosen device running specific unrooted ROM. If you dare install an ota update, it will no longer work for months and when it does, you have to watch ads for something you paid for!

Netflix in contrast works on nearly all devices, no ads but unfortunately no offline :(

Enjoy your oppo, and don't let sky ruin the experience for you.
[Android Apps and Games] sheepybach:
The Sky Go Tablet app has no white list and the only Tab s that don't work are Kindle's, Rooted , Superuser access and Asus TF101 tabs. OK the TF101 seems to be working for some customers which has baffled Sky Dev team.

[MENTION=510965]Riki1kenobi[/MENTION]

There is a push going on for the Sky Sports Mobile and Sky News app's to be updated for tablets by customers on most of Sky's forums stating Alun Webbers remark's about Android and IOS have parity. Like you I've a funny feeling that the Sky Sports mobile app will be dumped in favour of NOWTV app. I hope I'm wrong.
[Android Apps and Games] weirdsciencex:
I can't say to much as I'm part of the Sky Voice community and as such had to sign a confidentiality agreement but a lot of voice members seem to be android users, maybe because a lot of android users are tech heads. Anyway we have been quite vocal about the disparity between android and iOS apps and the restrictions in place. A lot of comparisons to Netflix, 4oD, ITV player, Demand 5 etc have been made and their ability to stream material on rooted devices while still using DRM. Whether anything will come of this is another story.

If you feel strongly enough about this issue I suggest you apply to become a member of Sky Voice then you can talk up the people who can make a difference.