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[General Topics] c5satellite2:
With no sd card slot, they are expecting us to use the cloud for storage. Free cloud storage of 50 gb. Problems with this are : we pay for data, what if we don't have a connection say on a plane and want to watch a movie or listen to music, what if I want to keep all my music locally, or maybe I just want to take advantage of the new sdxc storage that we have been waiting for, 128 gb would be awesome to have so I can take a ton of movies, music, tv shows with me and not have to constantly decide what I want on my phone for today because I have limited storage.

Why are they removing the slots anyway? Pressure from holywood? Pressure from the RIAA? Pressure from cell carriers? You bet. Time to pay pay pay!
[General Topics] balam111:
Sad world

This is outrageous. I am a big fan of HTC, but from now on I will say I was.

1. Integrated battery= your device's life expectancy is that of your battery + no possibility to have a spare battery ready when you need it (I am doing that ATM, it saved my life a few times)

2. No microSD port= restricting your phone's ability to be upgraded and to be used at its full potential.:(

I have a Desire HD, it started with 8go storage: way too little for a phone like the DHD. I was then given a 32go class 10 as a gift, believe me it changed my relationship to my phone: it is now my phone, my USB key (fair storage size), my music player (loads of high quality FLAC music), my little portable video player (good definition movies), my GPS (that also works offline thanks to ability to store maps= no utterly ridiculous roaming charges simply for using GPS abroad), my camera and camcorder, I don't have to worry anymore about the number of apps I install, etc, etc. Still, my 32 gigs are almost completely filled!

And the ONE X being a more powerful, full HD phone, I wouldn't spit on 32 more gigs: the apps and games are likely to take more space, so are HD movies and videos...

3. Cloud storage imposed to customers= Orwellian situation + obligation to pay a third party to store your own data (or more exactly -you get used to it while its free and feel obliged to pay when you've been using it for two years and it suddenly stops being free:mad:). What is more, what do you do when you're in a place where there's no internet connection??? And what about the data charges??

4. Micro SIM: what for? imitating Apple:confused:? Come on, HTC! You know better! The only effect of that is to prevent people like me, who travel a bit, to be able to temporarily switch their contract sim with a cheap PAYG local sim when abroad, which saves hundreds of £$ in roaming charges and a lot of hassle when calling/getting called by local people.

5. HTC is now becoming "one of them". Add the flashy plastic finish instead of the stylish aluminium case, and as far as I'm concerned, everything that made HTC devices stand out just went down the drain.

Bye bye HTC!
[General Topics] versd:
everyone has different storage requirements.

my desktop has 5+tb of storage and im continuing to add media to it.

even though I use a galaxy nexus now with fixed storage, i'm never far enough for long enough from my desktop to not be able to transfer several hours of HD content to my phone for anticipated killing time.

otherwise, i have unlimited data both on my home connection and mobile connection, and my home desktop is running a private server so I can stream anything i need if i ever run out of anything.

i do miss using my 32gb microsd though. but with usb on the go, i can still use it.
[General Topics] aaa:
No SD-Card slot is only half bad.....

but no exchangeable battery is the worst feature from One X and One S!

I ain't buying any of those Ones!

Now waiting for SGSIII :)
[General Topics] Felimenta97:
I will laught so hard when Sammy make SGSIII with unremovable battery!!

Xperia X10 Mini Pro with CM9 by paul-xxx
[General Topics] Tekkaro:
no sdcard - no buy

even one sdcard slot is not enough - i would prefer having 2 sdcard slots, 1 media sdcard and one productive sdcard

and furthermore im not motivated always, after flashing a new rom, to refill my intern memory, having in future a higher intern memory makes it even worse - also sdcards are a lot more convenient, more save and more suited for backups
[General Topics] jog21:
I think modding is one of the things they wanna fight with no removable batteries /no sd card slot.

The first problem you have with modding that requires to pull off battery simply beats you, requiring shop assistance.
[General Topics] Skv012a:
Why can't PHONES just stay, phones....
[General Topics] korn1335:
well the iphone has never had an sd card and look how well they are doing
[General Topics] red12355:
How does microSD have anything to do with the iPhone sales though? The iPhone would do just as well if not better if it had a microSD slot.
[General Topics] luftrofl:
It shows that users who care enough about memory expandability to have it prevent a purchase are insignificant.
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
iDrone users are pathetic sheep and are the main reason that we keep losing our rights. Keep blindly following the thieves and keep buying your Crapple products. Morons.

The only source is open.
[General Topics] yawxir:
Android vs IPhone

Android is Always AweSome Then IPhone..
[General Topics] DrAgKurt:
i've heard SD will be replaced by chips... no wonder SD card will be removed soon.
[General Topics] jharre08:
agreed +1000000000!!!!!
[General Topics] marcosius:
I think is not a good idea, for users. But for manufacturers is a great idea.

I prefer to buy a MicroSD Card for 50, than more internal storage for 100.
[General Topics] hello00:
if it freezes you can turn it off and turn it back on just like the iphone..
[General Topics] badyalberto:
It's cheaper than a microsd memory
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If it freezes with pass htc devices you cant turn it off because the buttons dont respond. You would have to go back to stock using firmware. Re-install the os by computer if it (software htc would have to make) freezes or warranty exchange. If you had a removable battery you could do it yourself without a computer. Using whatever buttons to get into the bootloader or recovery.

It gets worst if your getting boot loops for breakfast. For non rooted users only choice would be warranty exchange.
[General Topics] rosedog:
This is flawed thinking - so stop and think about a little yourself please.

Of course no one sits there and goes through all their media at once, that's not the point. The point is all their media is there p.e.r.i.o.d. on a whim we should be able to pull up any of our media when we want, where we want!

And to those who think dropboxes are the way to go, you make me laugh. relying on the magic cloud to access your information at any given is not only laughable but:

1. not possible - never going to be able to access your stuff 100% of the time.

2. in the super fine print you read - once your files are stored elsewhere - your information now technically becomes the host information/property - as it is stored on their servers.

Thanks but no thanks - I'll keep my removable storage thank you.

Oh and now that 64GB MSD are out, you know the prices are going to continue to drop too.
[General Topics] scorpserpent:
hmm

its getting pretty worrying. i dont want my next phone purchase choices to be limited coz i love the fact that phones have microSD slots. i love expandable memory. theres no shortage of space and no worry for shortage of space.

damn..:(
[General Topics] tleaf100:
anyone else thought of this as a solution to no msd.

if possible get new phone that has USB hosting built in,or try and get devs to start more work on USB hosting for more phones.

then all we need is micro USB or whatever phone has as connector to USB adaptor,then just jam USB stick in and bobs yer neice.

old HTC hd2 can do it,it worked great on old Toshiba tg01,under winmo 6.5,I could hook up a four port USB hub and get it to work on all 4 ports,probably cos drives are treated differently to devices,where you have to supply drivers as well to winmo.

but it should all be possible under android.or start *****ing to phone makers directly.
[General Topics] rosedog:
And to quote myself, Best Buy was selling the San Disk 64GB SDXC for $80.00 this weekend.
[General Topics] blestsol:
I'm just snipping what you said but whys it matter to you if I want access to all my music and stuff from an sd card?

:confused:

And if I have all that on my sd why should I go buying that stuff you mentioned?

Sent from my Rizzy Rezound
[General Topics] LogisticsXLS:
This is what I do when someone or a certain group of people do things that I don't like.

Write a letter.

Now that I got that out of my hair, I wonder. Most people that complain about the matter don't even have a phone that has one of the items or lacking features they are complaining about.

So please inform me, Why complain about it if you don't even have it? Those who do have an item that lack the feature, Why did you buy the phone if it didn't have the feature you require?

I always suggest researching what you're going to buy. If you bought it and knew it didn't include the feature you wanted, you shouldn't complain.

Just a few questions and my opinion.

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I see what your saying,

But some of us want to walk around with our entire music library in our pockets. Some of us ain't the kind of person that will just sync only five, ten or fifty songs on our devices. What if you mind or mood changes and you want to listen to the song that fits your current mood? Then you look on your device for the song you want to play. Now your realize that you don't have the song...

My device is currently holding 704 songs. Which is 2.2 days of music. I know I'm not going to listen to all the songs today, but I will some other day. I don't want to go back and forth with my computer just to get a few songs when I have the ability to carry all of them.

Sure 40GB's might seem like a lot of songs. But If you're able to house all that music on your device then why not do it?
[General Topics] blestsol:
Complaining because it's a trend people aren't liking. They're discussing it in a forum where opinions thrive.

Sent from my Rizzy Rezound
[General Topics] LogisticsXLS:
So far to the OP's count, its only a total of three phones.

I wouldn't call it a "trend" until then number of phones W/O an SD slot reaches 2/4 or 1/4 of the number of phones that do carry the feature.
[General Topics] blestsol:
Nexus s, galaxy Nexus, the new htc phones coming out etc. Those are the ones I've noticed.

Sent from my Rizzy Rezound
[General Topics] Vilzu:
I hope this wont become a trend 32 gigs is just perfect for my galaxy s2 but any less space I would be screwed
[General Topics] Quickblood:
I'm actually dissapointed by the number of phones without Micro SD Cards. I was looking at the HTC Sensation XL and rejected it, also dissapointed by the Nexus, the Xperia S and now the HTC One series too.

Personally I want 20GB+ just for music so 32GB is useless. We're supposed to be moving to HD video and out of nowhere storage size becomes static. Totally unacceptable imo. If this is the case from now on we should get a choice of memory sizes for the same handset.
[General Topics] riceeeeeeeeee:
i got an sd card so i dont have alot of junk on my internal storage
[General Topics] apatal:
I noticed it too. Especially with the new announced phones in the last mobile congress. I thought twice about buying a Nexus S because of the limited built-in storage, but now that I'm using it, I find that I don't really mind that much. Maybe this really is the future of mobile devices, especially as new technologies are being constantly developed to fit larger storage in even tinier packages.

Cheers!
[General Topics] superlorre:
I hope this trend doesn't last long...
[General Topics] RawrGasm:
That's bad!
[General Topics] 85jas:
A real pity for some, but not for others;

I feel that most regular users will be more than happy with the internal storage - it's the users who are either hardcore datamongers or power users which will be seriously put off! Unfortunately I'd guess that the vast majority of buyers would only be slightly miffed by the lack of external storage.

I use my Sensation XE as a memory stick as well as everything else, and for that reason I'd be out too.

Come on HTC, give us microSD and mega batteries!!!
[General Topics] syncguru:
16gb is big enough for me...
[General Topics] v0 HaVoK 0v:
Yeah

I was wondering the same thing, I see it in a lot of new phones, I assume they use higher internal for faster writing speeds, which would quicker pictures and the likes..
[General Topics] tablord:
Frustrating indeed

I was already frustrated a lot by this development when the Galaxy Prime was released in fall last year. My plan was to replace my beloved HTC Desire (which really lacks internal storage btw) with it but without the MicroSD Card slot I dropped it. Now I am waiting for the Galaxy S3 to finally be released - with the slot of course!

Ouzo sums up my opinion about the manufacturers' policy quite well:
[General Topics] Kscheuher:
Yeah, I keep a lot of stuff on mine as well.
[General Topics] syonatha:
Without SD Card, is CWM still relevant?
[General Topics] deeken:
If it does not have microSD extension then I will not buy it. Plain and simple.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
never bugged me till i got an n9, now there's never enough space. i wish I'd opted for the 64gb model.
[General Topics] aig787:
no sd card slot seems like a step backward to me. with a better phone you would think there would be space to take advantage of it. they're just expecting us to move to the cloud I guess. Google Music has worked okay for me so far for music
[General Topics] eckbauer:
No microSD extension no buy.
[General Topics] bamx2:
I wouldn't buy a phone withouy an sd card slot .
[General Topics] Iceanimator:
I would not want a phone without a SD card slot or a phone without any external storage capabilities.

I can use cloud service and such but what if I am in an area where there is no network. That would be horrible. SD card slot should and always must be in a phone to even make me consider it.
[General Topics] Fiendir:
I dunno, while I get that some are really anti-sd cards because of awkward performance in some cases, it's one of the few parts that you really want to be able to upgrade eventually.

Not everyone can afford a phone with, what, 64gb internal memory, but buying any phone and adding an SD card of that size at a later time is pretty doable for most people.

That said, I'm sticking to my class ten 32gb card. It's got the best and most recent of my music collection on it and some movies and stuff as well, and I still manage with it.
[General Topics] DPMAce:
+1
[General Topics] Nagibator:
tnx
[General Topics] ming3r:
Sticking to external storage...if they want to include the option of both, great, but when they will charge much more for internal storage...meh.
[General Topics] tommy1016:
No

everything is installed in internal storage before the sd card so just rampoing up the internal makes it easier
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Maybe we can lobby google to make it a hardware requirement for android to have a microsd slot for future phones so we don't have to deal with manufacturers/carriers who just don't get it.
[General Topics] Cuppeerr:
Evo 4g LTE has sd card slot(:
[General Topics] killswitch11:
I guess the main issue I have is how no SD card seemingly cripples a phone's rooting/flashing abilities. I'm no rooting whiz, but how would one even flash a ROM with no SD card? How would you recover from a bad flash with no backup available? Where would ROM and rooting files be stored? (Maybe I'm missing something here)
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
They have internal "microsd", just not removable or upgradeable. Basically think of it as it has a card, but it is permanently installed.
[General Topics] chaki-:
Come on! No SD card. Who cares. If i wanna music, movies etc. i will take my ultrabook with me. Smartphone is a phone, period.

Actually i had countless problems with SD card's back in the day. My phone's are used to freeze or not recognized the SD card's wich was pretty annoying for me.

Internal storage is a great idea. Since i owned N8, i am very happy with that idea.

Battery is the real issue here. And not just on phone's.
[General Topics] zelendel:
You will the min you take an important photo or have important data saved and then brick your phone before you can get to a PC and everything on your phone is now gone forever. I have no prob with battery, It lasts me about 16 hours which works. Also keep a spare battery
[General Topics] juzz86:
All the cool kids flash on the run :p :cool:
[General Topics] Skazer:
I have to admit that I did soft-brick my original droid. The only way I was able to fix it was by using a file on my micro-sd card that I had put on there from my computer. I didn't buy the g-nex because of the issue of not having one.
[General Topics] jaebird:
It's probably been said... SD card will come out of the clothes washer with data intact... phone? Not so much!
[General Topics] joegroove:
Screw giving me no card slot. I want two slots.

Why, you ask?... Why not? :D
[General Topics] chaki-:
I am to ugly to take pictures :D and important data i can't see what can it be when i sync everything instantly but hey maybe somwhere, somehow can happens.....but i doubt it will be so important ;)
[General Topics] shurane:
I thought one of the advantages of internal memory is that it's a lot faster than what current SD cards can provide, for read and write speeds.
[General Topics] shiro1811:
That's (for me) a step backwards, because all my old devices (like Sony Ericson W500i, LG Cookie, etc.) have this extension. And like many other users said: No microSD extension, no buy (Easy and Simple).
[General Topics] Drzfr3shboialex:
The 1800mah battery will be great for a phone with a 28nm architecture, but a 3500mah battery would be nice
[General Topics] warriorpluto:
I also passed up the the g nexus because of no sd card slot
[General Topics] asb123:
These devices usually have tools like ODIN for samsung devices which can save your phone under almost all circumstances.

Pretty much everything on my phone is synced up. Photos automatically go to Google+ (private album by default), Dropbox also offers this automatic photo sync.

My docs go to google docs or Dropbox depending from where I accessed them. Tasks are automatically synced in the app Astrid with my gmail (google tasks I believe).

Auto syncing with various services is one of the many beauties of Android.

---------- Post added at 07:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 PM ----------

Not having an SD card enables Android to share the entire memory across all services. This means data, music, pictures and such are all on the 16gb.

More importantly, my Apps also share this space. This is huge. On so many phones you fiddle with apps2sd and such because internal storage is often an issue. With the gnex you have 16/32gb of space for apps too.
[General Topics] zelendel:
Not always an option. If its due to no data single for hours or company policy preventing the use of cloud bases sync services. Either way ill never get a device that lacks the SD card option. It is just not a smart move for me. I am sure its not an issue for alot. But as this is a tool at work it is a huge deal breaker for me.
[General Topics] PeartFan40:
Using the thanks button is designed for people to show their appreciation to people who took the time to help someone in need. I don't really see how posting an opinion about battety life justifies hitting the thanks button.
[General Topics] The Nexus Project:
With cloud storage everywhere these days there's no more need for micro SD cards + the read/write speed on internal memory devices trumps micro SD cards all day. I like the idea of both that we're starting to see

Sent from my i9250 [GSM) Galaxy Nexus
[General Topics] miz_pimp:
Personally, I don't really mind not having an SD slot if I know that I won't use all the memory. I had the Nokia N81 8GB before, and never had a problem with the storage. I always had more than enough free space left, mostly because I don't really need more than 500 songs on my phone anyway :rolleyes: Now I have a 16GB SD card in my Desire S, so I'll probably put a few movies on it, but once I'm done watching a movie, I always delete it again, and that way I never have to run out of space.

Sent from my Desire S
[General Topics] netrace:
My English is poor, don't understand
[General Topics] eletro:
Personally i do not think cloud service is going to ever replace local storage or sd card usefulness.

When you connect to cloud service .. u end up using that their particular tailored software, ie. i want to listen to google music.. i got to use google music app. (to me is very iPhoneish and it locks down the usefulness of your data)

Dropbox sure give you more space .. but ur restricted to using their app to do stuff.

If i have 64gb micro sdcard slot with all my music.. i can use uber player .. poweramp all the players i love to listen and not restricted to network or lack of features from those cloud service apps.

Until cloud service is able to mount their service like "local storage" whereby any filemanager or app is able to detect and use it.. i will not look for it as a storage solution.

The sd card also serve as my backup when i reset my phone to factory settings and wipe my internal memory for new roms, without the aid of a pc.

Ever since i have my 64gb micro sd card, my entire music collection & important app data is with me (no need to spend my time managing my collection), i also will not buy a phone that have no expendable storage or usable storage less then 32gb (one x only have 26gb usable space).
[General Topics] :
It makes life much easier if your phone has a microsd slot as its easier to backup whenever you need to. It also makes it much easier to transfer data to other phones instantly.
[General Topics] 11214:
I've never used the one on my s2.
[General Topics] 754boy:
No external storage = no purchase for me. I don't give a damn how good the phone claims to be. If I wanted restricted space, I'd get an iPhone.
[General Topics] chislon:
I usually like the idea of the external SD so I can store the backup nandroid on the device itself, actually...
[General Topics] eletro:
- Its easier to recover sdcard data compared to internal storage data from a broken phone.

- My htc hd2 is still rocking in the yr 2012 because of the sd card slot.

Having sdcard slot option always is better, and its slower speed factor is negligible.
[General Topics] jordanishere:
i was looking under thr battery cover of my phone and there is totally room for another sd card slot. having two slots would be badass.

Sent from my SGH-T989
[General Topics] sreza:
lol, the Asus Padfone has 1 microSD slot, 1 regular SD slot, and 2 USB slots for external storage. XD
[General Topics] vikingzou:
No microSD is definitely UNACCEPTABLE.

it is a deal killer.
[General Topics] metaldood:
And now with > 1 GB games like Fifa 12 , MC3 ..who in the right mind would not give microSD :?? If I buy 5-6 games and want to keep all of them on the phone then that would be impossible.
[General Topics] Casen:
Man, people who think that cloud storage is a saving grace and there is no need for physical memory on a phone is completely narrow minded. Sure, maybe you live in a place with good signal, and have wifi in every place or job you go to. If so, then good for you.

I am in the military. Most bases have horrible signal, or no signal. The buildings are decades old and covered with lead paint, which kills any signal that happens to stray on base. There is no wifi on a base. And this is stateside, not including deployed or down range locations.

Now, i am not dissing the cloud, as i have everything backed up, from my music to photos and pictures, and use streaming when i can.

But when I'm bored one night in the middle of no where, or on a 20 hour non stop flight on a military plane that they decided even seats are not necessary, much Less in flight wifi, i would love to pop out my movie/music filled sd card, because turboprop drone gets old fast.

Sent from Eclipse 2.0 Droid Charge on Tapatalk.