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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
What was the topic again. Jk Ava.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ccline84:
I make sure to Tebow at least once a day. Drives my co-worker insane because she wants to have the guys babies!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
I'll be your huckleberry. PM me bro.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Mmmm. Coffee.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chandlerw88:
Miui 4.0 ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tionne22:
Me too....NO SLEEP TILL THE LEAK!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] _dan:
:O! I want to touch! I have been sitting here stalking this thread lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Give it to the team tester!!! Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
Wasup? alil late but just in time Mr Corleone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] barnacles10:
Care to share? =P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
Purty plz.with a cherry.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarheel487:
I'm running the stock rom 2.3.4, and it's not rooted or anything. The stock clock, when I click it, it's unresponsive, but when you hit the weather right underneath it still goes to the weather. Did I turn something off or is there a setting I can change to get it back to working normally, I can't get into my alarm or anything. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] blackepoxy:
Check out menu> settings> about phone> software information, look at the software number.

If it is not 5.10.605.9, then you have an update to load that will fix this Very widely reported problem. It will also give you a five bar received signal strength indicator.

I had this exact same issue for months before downloading the update. Since I installed it, my alarm clock has gone off every single day since.

Menu> settings> software update> check new

...Burst transmission originating from ADR6350...end of message...
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neptik:
All i see, are roms that are somewhat stable and just about everyone I've read, the camera doesn't work.. can someone post or give me a link with every rom available for SGT Sprint?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
You'd want ROM's dealing with CDMA (I think) but I'm not too familar with the ROM's for CDMA tabs :/

I would think that any Gingerbread-based ROM would work fine though, especially with the camera (if it's the same deal as GSM-based tabs, as in, camera works just fine on GB, but not CM9/ICS-based ROM's)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] denclaud:
I already search here in xda but still no answer so I'll just ask here. Does anybody experience problem when typing in the keyboard? I mean when I'm texting or inputting text some letters just automatically being press or its inputting letters even if I'm not touching any of them. I hope you get my point. If anybody can help me I will really appreciate it.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jumbobombo:
Pls give more details..which keyboard? Rom? Etc

:) [practice random acts of kindness and selfless acts of love] :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] scoffyburito:
Keyboard ghost lag?.

AOKP 4 LYF
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
Google, I hope you're reading/listening to this:

It kind of irritates me that I bought this phone for the "Pure Google Experience" only to find out its not really that "True" experience with all these different regional builds.

People are on 4.0.2 for over a month now I believe, yet we Canadian users, as well as many others across the world are still on 4.0.1 and have been duped into believing the "Galaxy Nexus" is a true Google device. Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time. My yakjuux build from what I hear is updated from Samsung, not by you, and that irritates me.

Sure, I can flip over to yakju myself, but really, why should I have to do that??a

I mean is it so hard for Google to do, what the likes of Microsoft has been doing for many, many years? That is make one build, let's call it base yakju, then through the initial install process, ask the user what region/carrier/language/radio he/she has and have the unit download the "region packs" accordingly??

The dreaded Microsoft doesn't sell 15 different "regional versions" of Windows, its the exact same build, but with language packs that are set up after the initial install process.

That way everyone gets an update at the same time, in this case, by you Google not by Samsung, as it is believed is happening with my phone (although unconfirmed because we haven't received an update yet!)

Anyway, there are many that will say you can do it yourself, and while this is true, one shouldn't have to. Nor should we have to wait for updates as a regional build when the "original" yakju builds get updated quickly.

I'm coming from a Galaxy S, and I stated I will never buy a carrier build phone again because of fragmented updates across the world, of which Canada never seemed to get one... I said I'm going pure android. That is why I bought the Nexus.

Unfortunately, its starting to feel like the exact same experience.

Sorry if this bothers someone. That was not my intention.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Oretoise:
Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
You've heard wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Its a matter of principle for some people.

And you have to unlock your bootloader. You can relock it after of course.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] OnePingOnly:
Agreed on all points! Google, sadly, is becoming a an organization that lacks focus in its endeavors.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
I also come from a galaxy s and i have a yakju, international gsm, carrier free.

When i first heard that vodafone pt would have galaxy nexus carrier locked for sale, i thought right away that that couldnt be a good thing, so i went and ordered a sim free international version even more certain that what i needed was the one where no carrier touched, only Google. That worked out fine. There was no yakju variants known at the time, october or early november last year.

The move about dropping support on cdma devices was not so good, but thats on the carrier and lte fw.

Edit: re read op, and it seems he has a carrier unlocked phone.

If you wanted to escape regional builds, you should ask yourself why they exist. Different basebands for example, you probably are aware of this since you're from Canada.

I dont care about otas and etas, as long as source is available. Thats why i bought it in the first place.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 15israellai:
Yes I can't believe why Google is allowing this. The nexus doesn't seem like a nexus now- it's just a phone that is unlockable.

It is the same case for me in Hong Kong. I finally decided not to flash yakju but to start using ROMs the second week I bought the phone.

Google needs to change this policy. They aren't going to let the nexus get more and more out of hand and less Google! As we Hongkongers like to say, give us back the "Google son"!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MilkPudding:
How could there be no regional builds when people in the world don't even speak the same language? :eek:

Sorry for my sarcasm, but you get the idea. We have different networks, systems, AC power plugs... the list goes on and on. Just look at what 'X' means in different countries.

But I agree that they can do a lot more to make it easier.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nicastro78:
Google has always held the belief that the Nexus line is for developers. It is for the most part a stock platform for which a developer can test their products on. However, Samsung and the carriers have mass marketed the phone as a consumer phone. It really is not and the Nexus brand has changed forever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeekiz:
Eventually, google/samsung have to please the carriers that are selling the phone, else they won't want to carry it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HRodMusic:
how do i know what region my gnex is frmo?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] josteink:
This is true only in the us. The rest of the world has working GSM networks and thus freedom from carrier dictated nonsense.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ztm.000:
You're missing the point of his post.

Sent from a yakju GSGN
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeekiz:
But then you are looking at the fact that they then have to supply smaller retailers with the handset, which also means they would have a lower scope of user adoption, as well as the cost of additional advertising.

By pleasing selected network providers, it ensure that the handset is in the hands of not just enthusiasts, but also the general user. The handset will have a higher adoption rate due to the higher availability, as well as the network providers will be more proactive in advertising the phone, overall this not only increases profits, but saves money by relying on the front end to advertise to attract users.

Business is business at the end of the day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.cbruegg.officialupdate
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HRodMusic:
wow thank you kind sir!

so i guess im yakju, thats the good one right? does that mean my phone is not canadian?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
LOL. Read the app man. If it says "updated by GOOGLE" then you're good.

Its not about being Canadian vs. not. More like 100% stock Google vs. 99% stock Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yomuppet:
You do NOT need to unlock boot loader to flash yakju, from personal experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HRodMusic:
yea, its just i got my phone off craigslist, ive always wondered were it came from, over seas, or from my canadian neighbors =D

btw whats your speeds like in bellingham?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Krijs:
You're posting on XDA and hope Google reads this? :confused:

I'm just happy that we have access to the latest ICS versions (through ROMs and AOSP). If I have to flash them instead of getting OTAs, then so be it. I can live with that.

I am 100% sure we are much better off than those still stuck on Gingerbread, Froyo, Eclair and even Donut. We and the Nexus S crew are still the first to get our hands on ICS, which we've been able to enjoy over the past 4 months whilst everyone else has to wait patiently. We'll also have first dibs on Jellybean too :)

Is it ideal that we already have version fragmentation on ICS? Not really, but considering the baseline version recommended for mass use hasn't seemed to have surfaced yet, I wouldn't really consider that a problem. Once that's out in the wild, I would expect most people will get OTA'd to the latest version and all will be well.

Regional builds MAY get it slower due to Samsung handling the OTAs, however I think they only did this to offload some of the pressure of single-handedly applying a global update. Even though my Nexus was shipped as yakju, I do hope Sammy pulls their finger out and updates the regional builds as fast as Google will.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
Tldr

You're still getting prompt updates.

Google isn't reading this.

Stop complaining you'll probably have the newest version is Android before anyone you know irl does.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kalavere:
I really don't see the issue here. People that know/care about versions can update it themselves. I have many friends that have GB and could care less about the difference between 2.3.5. And 2.3.7. You're in the know, do something about it. It's not like it's a hardship to do it yourself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
Reread my post. There doesn't need to be regional builds, they just need to follow the same model as Microsoft and create regional "packs" that are installed afterwards.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
You don't think Google reads XDA? Off course they do. That's where some of their ideas come from.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ranga300:
Guys his argument about the GN being for developers has been long over-played. Google sells the nexus to showcase innovation in their software. I agree that google now needs to get its act together. I have enjoyed using the nexus line because I just support google as others would support Apple. I have read people being advised to open their bootloaders and flash roms etc. Why should everyone go that root?

Now lets see this from a layman's point of view! How many units of the GN line would sell if only developers bought the phone? I wonder! Anyway most people are not themselves developers but rely on the good community to improve the software or due to carriers bloating the software.

So what I am saying is that, GOOGLE give us one build and if you have forgotten please look again at your introductory press conference last year in Asia. You did not win my heart by promising me I was going to be a developer. NO more different builds and times of updates.

And when are advertising your product, I dont see any developer in sight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMAQIY01r4

:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
I wasn't trying to stir a debate about this... that wasn't my intention.

Some of you are missing the whole point of the original post:

1. I know I could flash an official google yakju build. That is not the point of the post. I shouldn't have to. The phone is premised as a Google Phone. Thus marketed as a Google phone. Everyone in the world with this phone should receive updates from Google. If I wanted Samsung to be my update provider, I would have bought something from them (SGS2 etc).

2. Samsung's hand in this phone should extend as far as building it. If you have a problem hardware wise, then Samsung should be the one you call. Software should be handled ONLY by Google, and all regional builds so to speak should be handled by them as well.

3. "Yakju" build phones should not receive preferential treatment, that is to say, get updates first. We all have Galaxy Nexus's. They should all be treated same regardless of where you live, and should be updated AT THE SAME TIME. Any of you who think Google's servers can't handle updates from even 10 billion phones at the same time need to give their head a shake. This is Google we're speaking of... The most used website in the world. They've got the power to handle as many Nexus's as the world want to buy.

4. Why am I complaining? It's not so much a complaint than it is being duped. Without XDA, we'd all think we have Google phones right? Neither Google nor Samsung made us aware of these builds, we had to find that out for ourselves.

5. The whole point of a Nexus phone is to avoid the "fragmentation" that exists with Android over the carrier builds. This is what has drawn me to the Nexus. There shouldn't be fragmentation on their flagship phone.

6. Google does indeed read posts on the internet. Some of their employees actually post on their google plus accounts about stuff they have read all over the internet and disprove things. No matter which website they read from, most sites link XDA as the source.

At any rate. Those are my thoughts... Whatever the case, its what I feel. I'm not trying to sway your opinion my way no more than you are trying to sway me to yours. It's just my thoughts, and I'll leave it at that.

Take care
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EddyOS:
^

That should've been your OP ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Krijs:
Okay, think of it this way. You need to contact your friend, you have his phone number, yet you opt to make contact by leaving a post-it note pinned up on a communal board somewhere in your town, hoping that he'll come across it, read it and relay some sort of reply to you.

Google have their own boards, which are a more direct route to contact employees and developers. If you seriously want them to listen to you, you should have gone there.

I never said they don't read this place, but posting this here and expecting Google to pay attention is like trying to hammer a nail with a spoon.

I'm really glad that's the only thing you took from my post though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Uh, yes you do. To use fastboot commands you need an unlocked bootloader. If you are talking about flashing with odin, it would appear to you that the bootloader does not need to be unlocked because you don't actually unlock it yourself, but behind the scenes, it essentially unlocks it and relocks it for you. Regardless, it will wipe your data if you unlock your bootloader, and it will wipe your data if you use odin.

But anyway, the argument is moot -- the bootloader is relockable anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EP2008:
Good post.

I bought this phone over the Galaxy s2 (and paid a lot more) with the belief that I would have timely updates, but I later learned that as a Canadian, I'm screwed.

I feel duped. I have no intention of loading custom roms on this device and feel that with a "pure" Google device, it wouldn't be necessary in order to get the latest version.

Now I see 4.0.4 firmware in the wild and wonder if I'll even get it before the end of the year!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Hmmm. A few things:

1) No one knows or has confirmed what the differences are between all of the GSM builds (yakju, yakjuux, etc.). For example, there could be modifications to improve performance on specific carriers or in specific countries. This is not to say that the generic build (yakju) will not work on all GSM carriers, as it obviously does, but it may mean that you may get some benefit by running the localized builds. But no one knows. And it takes time to include these localization benefits into ROMs, so either Google/Samsung/carriers wait until everyone is finished before releasing the updates, or, they release them as they finish them individually (which makes more sense). Google/Samsung/carriers chose the latter.

2) Flashing the generic build on your device is not "loading a custom ROM". It is a stock ROM. Period. And there is no hardware differences between any of the GSM devices sold with any build. I still don't understand why people get the following three things mixed up. They are completely independent and not related at all: flashing a custom ROM, flashing a stock ROM, rooting.

3) Not all version of Android are applicable to all builds, which is why some builds did not get some updates. For example, some builds were update to ICL53F from ITL41D, while others were updated to ICL53F from ITL41F from ITL41D. There were specific issues that were localized to certain carriers/countries that needed an update to ITL414F, while others did not need the bug fixes. It does not mean that you don't have the latest version because it wouldn't make a difference anyway.

4) The official 4.0.4 is not a GSM release, it is a CDMA release, likely because the fixes in it are for CDMA devices and not for GSM devices. GSM devices probably won't get 4.0.4 (just speculation), but probably a newer version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
Good post, however it still doesn't resolve the fact why they can't do it in a much more efficient way that doesn't make non-yakju builds feel like outcasts.

As many have done, they have installed yakju with the KL1 radio. So that is proven to work.

So everyone should be a base 'yakju' build with localizations done afterwards.

So for example, if you are in Canada.. when 4.0.2 was released, everyone across the world should have received it, as we are all Nexus, but localizations can be done after the fact. Meaning, if lets for arguments sake say a KL2 radio comes out, they can push that radio update solely based on region. Updates to language? Push the language update to the area needed.

The point is, every Nexus (GSM) should be on an official 4.0.2 build at the same time. If there is a radio update in the future, so beit - push it. But that as we all know doesn't hinder Android by using an older firmwares radio on the new yakju build, which is plainly the case with KL1 over 4.0.2.

I hope this makes sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zapek666:
The Nexus line are not "developer phones". I frequently see them for sale in mainstream stores (in europe at least). They're advertised like all the other phones.

The Nexus phones offer a pure Google experience, that is to say, a stock rom. The default Android build without any carrier specific or manufacturer specific add-on. This is exactly why I took a Nexus. I didn't want any TouchWiz/MotoBlur/SECrap or whatever nonsenses manufacturers come up with (and then only update for 6 months then leave you in the cold). I didn't want to install a custom rom built by one guy who only cares about his own usage and bundled with zillions of options I don't really need nor want to mess about with.

It's true that the updates are handled in a strange way though. yakju build should be the default for all phones. Does anyone have a non yakju image available? That way we could check the differences to see what the reason is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. However, in trying to be pragmatic: selling phones (from Samsungs's perspective), selling services (from the carriers' perspective) and increasing the install base for generating ad revenue (from Google's perspective) are all businesses. And to run a good business, you need to generate growing profits. Catering to a select few individuals who want updates 2 weeks (or more) earlier is not a good business decision. Catering to the masses, who don't care if they have to wait 2 weeks or more for their update, and likely don't even care at all, is a good business decision.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greeced:
Point taken, however there are no localizations on this phone as far as the carrier is concerned. So this is purely a Samsung/Google mess. Both stand to benefit from whatever profit structure they have in place regardless of if they get updated at the same time or not.

Now if it were a carrier phone, like the SGS was, then your model of thinking would be bang on. Hinder updates so it will entice people to buy new phones. I know it did me.

But seeing as I've had this phone for over a month now, and as its only been in Canada for what, 3 solid months? Carriers have no play, or say in the matter.

EDIT: If there was a new nexus out, then I can understand being updated second... just as the Nexus S was. But as far as I know, this 4.65" beauty is Google's flagship.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
No, I think you misunderstood me. I meant carrier localization in the sense that (possibly) the Canadian carriers could all use some sort of different technology (vs. say Australian carriers for example) that benefits from some minor code changes.

One example, although it has yet to be incorporated into the yakjuux (or any) build, is that Rogers uses CNAP. It is the only carrier that I am aware of (and certainly the only one in Canada) that uses it. It would make sense to have the appropriate code in a localized Canadian (or Rogers) build, but it would make no difference in non-CNAP carriers. (And yes, I agree with you that it should be an add-on.) So if there was an update to include CNAP functionality in yakjuux and say hypothetically it was an update called 4.0.5, would someone with a yakjuxw build feel slighted because they don't have the latest build? Probably. Would it make sense? Probably not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordanprudent:
Agree with your points but surely as people have pointed out the nexus is as a developer phone?

Therefore if your living in Canada with slow carrier updates or OTA updates from google/samsung would it not make sense to root and install a custom rom bringing you up to date with 4.0.3/4.0.4?

I can see the point of not rooting as to keep your warranty etc but then why buy a nexus phone? I live in the UK and have a sim free unbranded nexus and the last time i checked i was stuck on 4.0.1 , so I rooted and installed 4.0.3 and tried modaco running 4.0.4, surely that is the point of the phone?

No rant intended ,

J
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
lol.

They're extremely focused. Just not at the level that we're discussing.

Precisely.

The Nexus Line are Google-Experience baseline phones. Samsung may want them to be mainstream, and may even market them as such, but they're far closer to "developer phones" than they are mainstream. They trace their lineage to the Nexus S -> Nexus One -> Google I/O Magic -> HTC Dream / ADP1