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[General Topics] mpkossen:
I've been noticing the trend of less devices MicroSD slots as well. It's really annoying, since replacable storage is ideal when you're on the go (or if you ever want to expand your storage).
[General Topics] Bunglechunk:
I was all for Windows Phone 7 until I found out there would be no SD Card extension (this was a few months before the HTC7 was released), so I Stuck to my HD2 for a while then got the Galaxy S2.

It's a definite deal breaker for me when buying a phone.

No THX necessary ;)
[General Topics] molo_king:
tnx
[General Topics] mobh13:
i need microsd -we all need it
[General Topics] xthemastax:
Oh, I hope they don't phase out on MicroSD's for android devices, besides, these things are dirt cheap to come by nowadays.
[General Topics] sitizenx:
Looks like Apollo is going to emphasize microSD support...

So it just remains to be seen in manufactures will equip their phones with microSD slots. My suspicion is most users don't need or miss microSD slots. I would need to have 10 GB of MP3s before my Lumia 900 started to get cramped. That isn't going to happen. There simply is not that much stuff to listen to. And now with a 32 GB Nokia Lumia 900 I can't see any need for more storage. Okay maybe if you are shooting a lot of pictures and video. But how many people really do that?
[General Topics] huetti:
I think, we all can buy devices with sd slots or devices with internal memory only. The manufactors will produce the most buying things generally.

Isnt it?
[General Topics] kowloon12:
I think I changed my mind about the removable SD card.. I used to swap it a lot when wiping backuping an restoring but now I see that a bit redundant.. usually I backup to the phone on the memory card first and then the memory card to the PC via USB

Doing it with a faster internal memory is surely better
[General Topics] kowloon12:
Ah, and about the size needings, I actually shoot a lot of pictures, 2gb in total for 6 years of mobile photos..

Maybe who listen to lot of music or view movies or play big games could need more space than me.. but 32gb of internal memory should be more than enough for the next generation of phones, I think.
[General Topics] DanJRWalsh:
Personally it's kind of a downfall that we don't have the expand ability but it's not a break or make for me.
[General Topics] gbroon:
My first Android was a wildfire which got me into the mindset that sd card was essential just because the internal storage was non existant.

after that I went with a razr instead of the nexus and the sd was one of the deciders in a close decision (had I known though that moto would renege on the unlockable bootloader I would have chosen nexus).

I realise now I do not need sd, never really use it on my phone or tablet now. It's something that I'd prefer if it was there but its really not an issue to me now.
[General Topics] HunterZ0:
I look for SD slots in devices as a matter of principle, unless they somehow aren't using fixed storage as a scam by offering different flavors of a device that vary only by storage capacity and price.

I hate, hate, hate the idea of having to line the company's pockets with an extra $50-100 for a $5-20 upgrade, or live without and be annoyed that my device isn't living up to its potential.

This scam is a big reason why I bought an Android phone. I also talked my wife into buying a handheld digital video camera with an SD slot over one that used the built-in storage scam.
[General Topics] Frankzzz:
Expandable mem capacity is one of the advantage of other mobile devices over apple
[General Topics] Felimenta97:
You know, I prefer to connect the phone to my PC than unmounting the SD, removing the back cover (on phones were it is covered by it), insert on a adapter/ built in slot, transfer the files, unmount the SD again, put it on the phone, wait for it to mount and the whole media scan to run and slow down the phone, etc.
[General Topics] got556:
Surprised Apple hasn't patented the process of building a phone without an external/removable SD card.
[General Topics] skr_xd:
Rofl.....

Nice one:D
[General Topics] xIJTIx:
Kind of sad to see manufacturers not include a card slot. It feels like you're being locked into whatever space given.
[General Topics] _Variable:
I'd die if my phone had no SD slot. My phone has 190 MB internal!
[General Topics] tleaf100:
what is the file size for 5 minutes of 1080 hd video?

now tell me we dont need more memory.
[General Topics] gbroon:
I remember the days when 2 of the reasons commonly given for android being better than iphone was sd cards and flash.

Now android doesn't need these gimmicky things to be better.
[General Topics] Jaytronics:
Hell, I am trying to find a way to expand my Xoom and Rezound msd slot to take a mockup card adapter that allows for two SD cards. The trend in no slots is dumb and well, just plain sickening. I will stay on phones if future phones do not have slots for memory cards.

Here is a conspiracy theory. What does the Governments want more than anything? To know where when and what we are doing. So, tell manufacturers to trend us to the cloud and away from private storage and they can know all to there hearts content. That is shtIck not put personal pictures and info up there for the world to see. You know, inthe event that all phones don't use external memory. That wayI won't feel the need to send this datato a storage medium. Not that I truly care if the government sees my personal info. I have nothing to hide. Butwith the ability for hackers to connect to web sites and crack encryption as fast as can be done. I'm all set with my life being out there. I don't need asome douchenuts selling.my info to illegal immigrants so that they can blow my credit out of the water. Or some how get me arrested for something that I did not do. I'm all set with that. The only thing that should be transparent is the governments. Not our lives. Well not forcibly at least. That should be a personal decission. Take that rite away and I will well, ill leave that.one alone.
[General Topics] KeithOYS:
Dislike this new trend unless all new smartphone ships with at least 32GB of storage space. :\

To me, a Micro SD card serve as a definite media backup.

Been using the same Micro SD Card for years and inserting it into my new phones; needless for alternative ways for transferring of media.
[General Topics] -m3tac0rt3x-:
This sums it all!!!

I can switch phone and have my music / photos and docs without the need to be tranfering everything to the new one... just pop in the sd card and puff... it's done!!

Even with an internal memory of 32Gb... the phone fails and needs to be sent to service... where does your stuff goes?... to the bin... I mean... where are the doubts in keeping sd support? lol
[General Topics] Nate2:
Removable micro-SD cards are responsible for many Android device problems (unexpected reboots, widget issues, lost photos, etc). Especially if your device doesn't like the speed rating of that card.

I don't recall removing my 16GB or 32GB cards from my devices since the time I installed them. I suppose there might be some need to if I needed to do massive high speed transfers to my PC, but I don't...
[General Topics] Kailkti:
Isn't that only because the apps were placed in the sd card? Whilst it is responsible, if you have enough memory in your phone this problem can be overcome/avoided.

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[General Topics] XO:
Android phones should have SD cards...plain and simple. Android has never had any music, video, pictures syncing done with a computer, its always been drag and drop, plug and play. Therefore this should not stop till maybe google play becomes a itunes like client.

But i really thing android should have some time of hardware requirements, some consistency will bee good. not some phone having SD cards and some not.
[General Topics] thelegendarylegends:
u said it all mate!!!!
[General Topics] norazi:
i used to have a large microSD but find myself using less than 4GB out of my 32GB card most of the time... its simply more convenient for me to stream media using spotify/grooveshark/pandora/netflix/youtube than to have the files on my card these days

also if you have a synchronized picasa account, then you dont even need to bother having your photos on a microSD card since it all gets saved to the cloud anyways. the only thing i use my microSD card for thses days is to store apks (titanium backup) and some game roms (SNES/PS1)
[General Topics] moshe22:
Doesn't this use all of your data ?
[General Topics] norazi:
tzones.. unlimited 4G :D
[General Topics] townay:
wouldnt it actually be more profitable if say, they give consumers a microsd expansion rather than a fixed capacity and then improve on their device feature/performance wise?
[General Topics] mrbkkt1:
nah 16 gigs of micro sd is less than 20 bucks on amazon now. lets say they build in 8 to 16 gigs of storage. add a 16 gig chip internally for 10 bucks, then charge the consumer an extra 100.

not to mention the data usage charges ( more applicable in europe) which service providers love.

motorolla did this with a few phones, on ifixit tear downs, there is a micro sd internally mounted. i forget which phone though.
[General Topics] townay:
I see. Thanks for the clarification. I dont usually follow on the price changes of microsd but now that you mentioned it, a 16gb c10 microsd costs more or less the same over here in taiwan.

I dont have a clue about european's telco service though.
[General Topics] masondoctorjt:
Yes, but isn't wp8 gonna bring back mass storage support? It would suck I'd android did away with it and wp adopted it again.
[General Topics] ceza_21:
Guys you will get 32gb + 50gb dropbox =82gb its more than enough :-)
[General Topics] thelegendarylegends:
But u need to use internet to get that tho, so really, it sucks

sent from my beast HTC Sensation powered by my Extreme Sensation Blaze™ 2 with HTC Sense 3.6
[General Topics] townay:
having 32gb internal is good.

having multiple 32gb swappable microsds is better :D

50gb dropbox needs you to be connected to the net.
[General Topics] thelegendarylegends:
everything u said is true :D
[General Topics] sooyong94:
I really wish manufacturers should start emulating what Moto did by beefing up the battery.
[General Topics] colapro:
I think that the reason manufacturers do it this way is because people still buy the phones. I guess that the reason people buy those phones are because they think the internal memory will be enough.

In my opinion SDCARD and battery should be replacable by anyone.
[General Topics] Jaytronics:
A lot of good that account will do us when we have massive 3Gig files to upload and there is an upload limit. Not only that but I do not want my family pictures up in the cloud. Also, take into consideration the people with a limited data package. This is nothing more than big companies trying to take away a good thing just to make a couple bucks. One day, I will just be fed up with it. I wish there was something that we could do to get it through there thick Fing skulls that this type of customer manipulation is utter bull****. To all that states that it doesnt effect them. Have you ever had the ability to think past youe own nose into the future? Needs change. What you are in need of now is most likely not going to be the case down the road.

Edit: This was supposed to be a reply to another post. I guess I did something wrong. Any way.
[General Topics] bilalanjumbutt:
I m in a trouble i want to install Android on my htc kaiser with wm 6.5 but failed i want to install by heret.exe method dont need to remove my wm so i tried method for 2.1 eclair ,2.2 foroyo and 2.3 gingerbread after penguin it stucks with dont mount sd card in 2.1 eclair and something like system.img failure in foroyo 2.2

I have .tgz file for both 2.3 gingerbread and foroyo for kaiser while one .tgz file is full hardware functionality i searched on net .Now plz tell me what to do to run by heret.exe file
[General Topics] Jaytronics:
Im not absolutely sure. But, you might be in the wrong thread.
[General Topics] -ErrorFile-:
This is true!

Especially the part I bolded.

It's good to have a lots of internal memory, but I don't personally like this new trend.

I don't want to be always connected to internet - eats too much battery.
[General Topics] antispiral:
After reading that recent article about how microsd cards slow phone performance maybe internal memory is better for Android overall? Not so for the user. Personally I think microsd is one of my favorite option on android phones.
[General Topics] sminki:
Yes! Absolutey!
[General Topics] KayxGee1:
I deal a lot on CL with purchasing phones. If there is no micro-sd slot then I'm not interested. I need the ability to quickly retrieve my information in the event I swap phones. I don't like this trend. -insert sad face-
[General Topics] NightHawk877:
I have a 32 gigabyte card for my Captivate and another one for my Galaxy Player. Music just passed the 15 gigabyte mark, and some of my movies take up more than a gigabyte. Lack of expandable storage turns me off unless the capacity is greater than or equal to 32 gigabytes.
[General Topics] jRi0T68:
I tend to be the Android Doctor for my employees and everyone I know. Being able to pop out my sd, give them an apk (like Unlimited Pandora, or even a cm7 build) and put my sd back in is a big deal to me.

No sd card slot = no purchase for me.
[General Topics] 754boy:
No SD? No thanks! This model works for Apple but I refuse to be forced to pay more money for more space. I have tons of SD cards lying around.
[General Topics] MissionImprobable:
Expandable storage is the only way. As many mentioned I don't want to have to rely on streaming, especially for larger files. I often have to go in and manage files from time to time just to keep a bit of free space on my card. Not that it's an issue from everyone, but having all my MIUI themes at my fingertips whenever the mood strikes is much more convenient than having to erase and add them over and over again as needed. If I want to be locked it, I'll get an iphone.
[General Topics] akelino027:
Expandable mem capacity is one of the advantage of other mobile devices over apple.. hmmm
[General Topics] Silent25r:
I think some manufacturers are choosing not to support it. Poor sdcards can cause problems with the device. It would probably easier in their eyes to not have one. Just like it is easier in my eyes to avoid buying any devices that don't give me that option.

I like the Samsung GS II idea. Keep the price down by not giving them a sdcard. If they don't know about about sdcards then they probably won't even realize their phone doesn't have one. Cheap sdcards can cause problems despite others saying otherwise.
[General Topics] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Same here!!!
[General Topics] zelendel:
I have to agree. Without an SD card option I will not buy a device. With how easy it is to brick a device by dropping it or damaging the board. I will not trust my pics to internal memory. Music can be replaced, games can be redone. Pics of my kids when they arent looking cant be.
[General Topics] blestsol:
I skipped out on the nexus s and galaxy nexus because of the lack of expandable sd card.
[General Topics] garychencool:
I wouldn't even buy the phone if it didn't have a microsd card expansion of without it, I feel like my microsd cards are wasted?
[General Topics] hawaiiankine:
It's nice to be able to swap sd cards to keep back ups of different data.
[General Topics] HarmonyFlame:
There is absolutely no way I could live without my 64gb micro SD(which is full btw). I use my content way to f-in often to stream ota.

Sent from the best mobile device ever --Samsung Galaxy Note
[General Topics] nebsif:
..and I was so excited about one X, no SD + those screenies of sense 4.0 looking like a mix of android 2.1 and sense (srsly my mom's stock legend UI is cuter).

Coming from a "family" of HTC fanbois (mom legend, me desire, bro sensation), ill probably look for an "alternative" tegra 3 device.

Didnt buy sensation because of the weight, performance and screen (inferior to GS2 imo), didnt buy GS2 cause I love sense, was patiently waiting for the next flagship device and all I get is disappoint.

"Vote with ur wallet" lads or one day we'll find ourselves with iTunes-like data transfer and other apple-inspired "patents".
[General Topics] synaesthetic:
I was bummed out about the lack of an sdcard slot on my Galaxy Nexus.

Until I realized I could connect a huge gbs flash drive with a USB OTG cable. :) This is actually better than a microsd card slot buried under a battery, because I can change up my videos or extra media just by ejecting the flash drive and swapping in a new one. No need to turn the device off. :)
[General Topics] kindlefirexda:
It does seem like a lot of new products are coming out with no microsd card slot.

My Kindle Fire doesn't have one. I wish it did so that I can store more stuff than what Amazon lets me.
[General Topics] Njl6705:
No MicroSD card is definitely a deal breaker for me, for many reasons that users have already stated. There is also no 4G to speak of in my area (HSPA+ sometimes, but no LTE to speak of), which makes streaming a pain. I was also wondering, what does the lack of MicroSD mean for custom roms?
[General Topics] MrGarak:
Hmm pretty cool! Didn't know that.. maybe I'll get a One X after all :confused::rolleyes::p
[General Topics] :
The whole HTC one series is disappointing. No removable batteries and non expandable storage. I could deal with the battery but no sdcard slot. My galaxy s2 has an sdcard slot and otg cable support. Not all devices come with native otg cable support. May have to flash a custom kernel and which will require root. Which will take some time. Some don't even support otg at all.
[General Topics] jeronski:
I read an article recently about this topic. It said that a certain company has done a study and concluded that sd cards (most if not all) causes smartphones to slowdown. That is why most new phones that are being released don't come with a micro sd card slot.
[General Topics] starable:
I don't think it's trendy. It was for saving cost for Amazon. What a waste without microSD expansion.
[General Topics] Kailkti:
No fixed limit will ever satisfy my multimedia addiction. So they better pick micro sd over thickness. Heck the sgs 2 is so thin it makes the sgs 2 heat up fast making the screen degrade faster and holding it uncomfortable. Better a bit thicker phone but definitely lighter.

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[General Topics] Drzfr3shboialex:
If it has 32gb internal I do not mind, but battery :/ sometimes I have to pull the battery b/c it freezes. I still really want the HTC One X on T-mobile though

sent from my Virtuous Unity :D
[General Topics] Felimenta97:
Until a certain point, I understand all of you, but c'mon...

We all need 843563498574389 of Gigabytes on our phones?

Someone on page 2 or 3 said he have 40 Gb of music. Let's do some math:

40 GB = 40.000 Mb

1 music = more or less 10 Mb. So: 40.000/10 = 4.000 musics.

Let's say each music have 4 minutes. So 4.000 x 4 = 16.000 minutes.

16.000 minutes = 267 hours (+ or -)

267 hours = 11.125 days...

You actually listen to all of this? You really have time to listen to 11 days of music? I don't think any battery can keep running a phone with 11 days of playing. You sleep listening? You study/work listening? You eat listening? You watch TV listening? You browse the web listening?

C'mon guys, let's be a more realistic.

If you want 384632894 GB of music, + 485624385 Gb of movies, + 35849654398 GB of images, + 8395642389546 Gb of games, and etc, why you don't buy external HDDs? Or Internal, whatever. I'm sure they cost very little in Europe and America, in general.

I'm sure you don't listen to all of those musics. I'm sure you jump at least half of them.

I have a 1 Tb internal HD and a 1 Tb external HD. Adding what has been used on both, I have at least 1.5 Tb free. And I have lots of programs (I don't use much of them), movies, TV series, music (Mostly from my mom, but) and random files, and I have ****ing 1.5 Tb free.

Please, think a little...
[General Topics] Vap0ur:
It is definitely a trend. It looks like the main reasons are due to the unibody designs on so many of the phones.

I've got to say I like the idea of unibody. My Desire HD is like a dust magnet, and I'm constantly cleaning out the pieces of the phone where the cover can be removed (battery slot and sim card / SD slot).

Whilst I don't really mind the 32GB in the One X, I can see why a lot of people would find that limiting. It's very interesting that HTC feel they need to supplement this with the free Dropbox 'add on' storage.

From a development and phone 'migration' perspective this can only be a bad thing. It definitely limits flexibliity.
[General Topics] acetkbez:
As long as the phone has at least 32gb of built in storage i don't mind not having a micro sd
[General Topics] James1o1o:
Alot of people will probably not agree with me on this, but I see this as a move from company's in an attempt to drive more money. Its easy to buy a phone and buy an SD card, but when they control the price and size of memory within a phone, they can easily pull "an apple" and charge an extra £100 for 16 gb more storage where it would only cost £20 for that extra storage in an SD card.
[General Topics] Hunt3r.j2:
It probably would be smartest for a maker to have 16GB as MTP storage, and microSD expansion as FAT32.
[General Topics] synaesthetic:
This is because sdcards are a lot slower than the eMMC chips used in smartphones.

I'm not terribly upset about the lack of an sdcard slot. I haven't completely filled up the 16GB on my Galaxy Nexus. However, I'd appreciate larger options.

No sdcard slot and only a 16GB model is depressing, but no sdcard slot and a 16, 32 and 64GB model is fine.

However, the presence of an sdcard slot in addition to a boatload of eMMC is the best (i.e. Galaxy S2).

Space is always an issue if you use your phone as a music player. And really, other than crazy audiophiles, I'd much rather take the (very slight) sound quality hit in exchange for only having to carry/keep track of one device. And also not miss messages or calls because I didn't notice them while listening to music.

Edit: My biggest beef with the lack of an sdcard slot is that Google moved to MTP. I don't appreciate this at all. I'd much rather have USB Mass Storage. MTP is a gigantic pile of failtastic fail.
[General Topics] Sykotron:
I can only hope it's not a trend. I don't want anything going the way of Apple. I'd almost prefer that phones were built like desktops where basically all components can be chosen by the user. Do not remove my power as an individual to tailor my hardware exactly how I want it.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
Having no SD card doesn't bother me as long as there is decent internal storage but having a SD card does help when you're always tinkering like myself.
[General Topics] leo.benveniste:
The fact that phones are coming with 32/64gb of internal storage, and during this or next year will see even bigger sizes like 128 or even 512, I don't see the real need for a removable SD.

I have never, ever, changed or removed the SD from any of my phones
[General Topics] zelendel:
The only time I have removed it is 3 times. One to upgrade the SD card. Swapping it out for my work SD card and the last is the most important to me. After My phone died and without the SD card all the pics I would have taken would have been lost. That is not an option in what I do.
[General Topics] leo.benveniste:
that is true for now, but I use Google+ and every photo and video I take is instanly uploaded thru "instant upload" to my Google account, I also have enabled the camera upload feature from Dropbox so I get a backup, I can kick my phone in a river and still won't lose a single pic, and everything else is already on the cloud
[General Topics] zelendel:
Well see that's the problem. Those options are not allowed with work pics. But to be honest for some this is not a bad thing. Just a deal breaker for some. And after HTC twitter polls and a few that emailed them. This may change.