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[LG Revolution] markapowell:
Sorry to hear you are afraid of rooting. Honestly, the LG is the easiest to root. We have a great community here. At the very least rooting allows for themeing. And we have some nice ones.

The screen is an issue... haven't seen that. I have heard that Gingerbread has caused screen freezing, but you can still turn it off, and then back on, and have it work again.

Good luck.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] acidus.:
This is my theory...

Kindle Fire sold one million units every week since December. Lets assume that Asus has ONLY sold one million TFP's.

Everyone, even fan-boys, will agree Asus has issues with TFP.

To do a total recall of the TFP's, at $30 a pop, would cost Asus $30 Million.

Based on the XDA polls, somewhere around 70% of the customer base is willing to live with whatever issues the TFP has.

Out of the remaining 30%, a certain portion will never be completely happy and have a bad taste in their mouth regardless of what happens. Not worth trying to satisfy everyone.

Dropping GPS from the specs is a beginning. WTF does "not a professional GPS device" mean anyway? I doubt anyone was planning on using the TFP to climb Mt Everest. Reality is you can't find a local pizza place or geo-code your photos/videos.

For the screen bleed issues, they can clamp down on QC. Which they have apparently done. There are still QC issues, but not like the early adopters had.

After dropping GPS, there remains BT/Wifi hardware issues. At least 70% of their customers will accept weak WiFi and BT issues. For the balance, offer lip-service and OTA firmware updates. Dedicate a person to do damage control, which is a pitance compared to a recall.

For the diehards, who didn't return the TFP and are very vocal, offer exchanges. Even if nothing is fixed. Its still far cheaper than doing a total recall.

Stop selling the defective tablet after supplier contracts run out, and sell the improved tablet.

Just a theory.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Nothing wrong with that. A good theory. Things are going to change for better with prime. Have a good feeling about it. Be ready for .14 update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wirelessFREAK:
The percentage of owners that doesn't accept the FACT that Asus came out with a sub-standard product with little or no QC

This is because many people that didnt like it, just didn't keep it.

Fanboys need to understand that GPS is a promised feature, regardless of what it does. Hell , if they list a snow blower on the box, I should expect to a blow some snow.

Many people, myself included, use tablet navigation for road trips, where their "copilot" plans the route.

*Downplaying the issues just puts all TFP owners at a disadvantage.*

What would you do if the power company cut off power during the day, saying that daylight is enough for your needs, and telling you that it doesn't think you live in a mine?

Bad production and a response that is even worse, IS what keeps my tablet of choice, out of my hands. I'll remain with the iSheep for now
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] andyxover:
There's one problem with your argument, the purpose of snow blower is to blow slow, but tablets aren't typically used for GPS. I understand that some people do it, but its a relatively small number of people. And let s say the GPS is completely dysfunctional, Asus still managed to stuff a quad core, 1gb ram, gorgeous display into a very thin case, to selling it for 100 dollars cheaper than the competition, including 35 million ipads wifi out there which doesn't even have the GPS chip.

You can say that they are too ambitious trying to integrate the GPS into a metal case device, a task even apple had to give up, but I doubt its ever their intention to include a questionable gps in the prime. So all I'm trying to say is, give they some credit. Obviously if GPS is very important for you, return the prime, and wait for something else.

Asus may have rushed the release of prime, but just think about what would've happened if they didn't : no second generation android tablets before the release the ipad3!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
And GPS is only working in special circumstances. Inhouse is not functional. I use the Quadcore + NinjaCore much more than i would ever use GPS. I watch much more Videos indoor than i'm using my prime outside of my apartment. I read more comics than ever since i have my Prime.

I really doubt that "many people" use their Prime for navigation. Even for this you can use your phone or a external gps device for the signal...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effezie:
My Prime is RMA atm. Don't believe they will fix GPS but one can hope.

Pic of TF201 in my vehicle. Haven't figured out how to get Velcro to swivel so the passenger can see :-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] foxtrot16m:
i emailed asus saying that if they did not withdraw there threat to end my warenty for trying to fix the issues that can be fixed with custom roms then i would just return it over and over untill they sent me one without problems i suggest every person who own a tfp to do the same IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WANT ASUS TO DO THE RIGHT THING THEN EMAIL THEM AND THREATEN TO START SENDING UR TRANSFORMER PRIME BACK OVER AND OVER UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
For all of you non believers i got a replacement one without GPS listed on the box with the blue cleaning cloth.. It's c1okas161xxx the GPS even works indoors of course it is weak but it gets a lock indoors with slightly less signal then my evo 3d they appear to have fixed something!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Threatening them won't do anything. If you want to exchange just do it. Adding threats along with it does nothing.

I know you learned your lesson now on messing around with system/root files...lmfao. now you got a good one. Don't mess it up ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo_Shift:
I have never seen Amazon say how many Fire's they have sold.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] acidus.:
Its an estimate.

http://www.isuppli.com/Display-Mate...e-Fourth-Quarter-Tablet-Market-Was-Apple.aspx
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bluewr:
My device works fine, same for my brother, so I'm not sure about the substandard, as our TF prime met and exceeded some of our expecation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Unfortunately its not a good one... Their is dust under the screen... And quite a few dead pixels... They should have taken it out of the plastic screen protector when they examined it... But anyways new one should be around the the week of the 27th

I am hoping it will be later so I can decide if I like something better at wmc
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Blue cloth, huh?

Strange, all the early reviewer units and video unboxings had that blue cloth. Must have run out of black, LOL! Results are still mixed though, where GPS is concerned. I will be super happy if they ever get it to work, and I have really only that one deficiency/complaint. Mine is a replacement C1OKAS11x, so earlier than yours, but had no GPS at all at first, and still can only get views/occasional locks when outdoors only. Sigh.

What's with the revival of the BLUE CLOTH??? Does it mean BLUE CLOTH=GOOD GPS???

My only question is, is it double the size of the black; we had a post a week ago with the huge, oversized cleaning cloth of goodness, but he never said what the color was.

Let's all return our Primes and demand new ones with Blue Cloths... Start the Petitions, Gt the Facebook BLACK CLOTH HATE CAMPAIGN started! Okay. stopping now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Same size as the black one...

I know for a fact the prime is made at different places as they have one company box and package the primes they are okas-tech.com they basically handle the whole manufacturing process which means they hire other people to assemble the prime... So maybe they are from different lines
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I figure I have only a few legitimate choices if I'm in the market for a new tablet today:

1. Buy an iPad 2, which has no GPS chip at all.

2. Buy one of the other popular Android-based (but limited) tablets, the Kindle Fire and Nook Color/Tablet, neither of which have GPS chips.

3. Buy a Tegra 2 or other last-gen Android tablet with likely fully functional GPS.

4. Buy the Prime.

#1 isn't an option for me because I simply don't want to buy an Apple product. #2 isn't an option for me because I don't want such a generally limited device. I already have a TF101, so if I were satisfied with #3 I wouldn't have to do a thing. That leaves #4.

Note that my decision here is NOT influenced by the quality (or existence) of a device's GPS functionality. If I were looking to use a tablet as a navigation device, I'd just stick with my TF101. Thing is, I never used GPS on my TF101--not a single time. It was turned off pretty much from day 1.

This is why I think the GPS thing has been way overblown. It's hard to argue that GPS on a 10" tablet is important to the market when the two dominant products--the iPad 2 and the Kindle Fire--don't have GPS chips at all. Clearly, most people don't care about it. I don't see why anyone should assume that the majority of Android tablet purchasers would be different.

As far as wifi and wifi/BT goes, either wifi works for a person or it doesn't. Worrying about how strong wifi is and what range it has is entirely theoretical UNTIL one runs into a situation where it doesn't work. I have a feeling that the vast majority of people who buy a Prime will never run into that theoretical limit and will be perfectly happy with theirs. And when I say "perfectly happy," I mean exactly that--as long as a person doesn't run into that situation where wifi isn't strong enough to function, then they'll be oblivious to any wifi limitations.

Finally, I'm pretty convinced that the wifi/BT thing isn't at all unique to the Prime. I can't surf the Web while streaming music to my Bluetooth headphones on my Epic 4G Touch any better than I can on the Prime. My TF101 is only marginally better at it. So, that doesn't matter to me either.

I suppose this entire post is aimed at people who insist on telling those who are happy with their Primes that they're either lying to themselves, ignorant, or pure fanboys. The other explanation is that they find the positives of the Prime--excellent performance, great size/weight, super-bright screen--to outweigh the negatives that for many people are only theoretical anyways.

All I know is that I can use my Prime outside under the SoCal sun. My TF101 sure can't do that, and I believe no other tablet currently on the market can. So, for me, the GPS that I never used on my TF101 and the under-performing wifi that works perfectly for my needs just don't outweigh what is the most important use-case for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xsteven77x:
+1
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Asus' exposure is far less than "1MM." They sold next to none is December as their tablet sales were down 24% in Q4. In an interview, Jonney Shih said he hopes to "sell 1MM Prime's." So with initial demand of any new device being high, at most I'd guess they've sold (not built) about 200-250K.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Very well put.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
I have to say, i really dont mind if the TFP doesnt get all too popular^^ All the people I know and showed the prime to are totally blown away by it. I also heard one that said its very similar to the ipad but looks just a bit more "noble".

So i really dont mind if this sexy thing is staying something special. I usually dont care about what the masses think "what's best because i have some very distinct demands to an IT device and the prime is just doing all i need. For example a retina display with insanly high resolution? I dont need that at all. Without glasses on i probably dont even see the difference :D But the ability to write this post with an full keyboard? The ability to play psx emulator with a real gamepad? And so on and on :)

So i'm gonna have the perfect device for my needs, and its even gonna stay something very special. I mean everyone has mobile apple devices now, they're as mainstream as it gets...

All i hope for now is some custom development going on when the bootloader gets unlocked and i will be in IT heaven :D

cheers mates. Hope this wasnt completely off topic :P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NastroGlide:
I was going to try to swing the convo back around to the OP's point of the thread, but I have to say that I like the ppl here that are actually thinking below the surface. It's almost ironic that every single complaint about this tablet is valid and almost every rebuttal is valid also. I finally got mine and wrote up a rant which was closed before I could even post an intelligent response to the many haters/fanboys that took what I said wrong. Almost every side of almost every argument is correct with this thing, so following the OP's intent, where does that take us?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
And if GPS is listed on the tablet specs it doesn't matter WHAT people "typically" use the tablet for.

It matters that some people were PLANNING on using the GPS because it was an advertised feature.

Just as if "snow blower" were listed as an advertised feature, someone is going to buy the tablet to blow snow, regardless of the "typical" usage.

In short, your "typical" usage argument wasn't worth even one of the electrons you used to post it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rand4ll:
Great post. Though I think the new galaxy tab 7.7 with the AMOLED screen should be viewable in the sun, I know my phone is when I crank up the brightness.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rand4ll:
I can completely agree with you that the GPS should have worked much better than it did because it was advertised. However, if bought for use of it to be a primary function it would only be prudent that the end user test it once they have the device. I know i test any product I buy for the uses I intend it for. In the case of the prime's GPS the user should easily see quickly that it is not going to work for them in which case they should promptly return it and look for a different device. The way this was handled versus how other products (not just electronics) are when they don't perform to the end users expectations was way over the top and far beyond ridiculous. I am not saying Asus should be let off scott free as this is most certainly a major folly but caveat emptor...buyer beware, or in my own words if it doesn't do what you need it to and you didn't test that in time to be able to return it that is your own fault.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ciddy:
Sorry if this is too offtopic, but I really need to RANT:

Sorry to rain on all the "GPS is not usually used in a tablet"-BS conveyors' parades. The frickin SoC circuit boards of tablets are the same damn ones as are used in cellphones which are used as GPS navigation devices every damn day every-damn-where! They have a bigger screen and a bigger battery and usually no "phone" part, but only because nobody would hold a 10" slab to their face to make a phone call!

So technically there is NO reason to not use a tablet as a navigation device.

I've had people tell me the screens were too big for that, what a load of! It's actually much better! Otherwise why would anyone prefer a 4" screen PND over a 1" screen?

Gaaah! If you dont use it, FINE! But it says so on my damn packaging and it was a feature I was looking foward to. And it's not working as advertised or was to be expected. So please, pretty please with sugar on top, STFU about how GPS is not really <whatever>.

/rant

Edited to add: I got mine Dec 23rd 2011 when GPS was still advertised. But I was out of my 2 week return window when Asus scrapped the specs. I ca (and probably will) take the vendor on for liability of wrongful advertising (feature promised and not delivered). But I may only do this once the TF700T or the 301 is out and then replace it. Or get the GT 7.7....

For your all viewing pleasure, this would have been the setup if the Prime had actually ended up being usable for navigation...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rmsingh:
That was my plan too. I'm finding that the 4.3" screen on my Garmin required me to squint. The Prime with GPS goes a long way in my meeting my lofty goal of having to carry one device with me when travelling.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
And here come another 30 people trying to tell us how we should or should not be using our devices for their advertised features... Because it's not built only to do that one feature...

I mean really!

I understand that it may need a data connection to be used to the fullest extent, but most of them can't even see satellites or get any accuracy above 40 feet! With data!

And isn't that the point of having one (Google) account for my several tech devices? So that I can use the same apps from one to the next (with exception to things like T3 games, duh) with the same general functionality?

Please stop playing people off as fools and whiners because an advertised feature helped them decide on this product, and then the feature does not work on the majority of devices the majority of the time and the company just drops it.

Yes, you can return/RMA/refund/sell, I don't care. Point is, thing said GPS. Everything else that says GPS acts a certain way. This does not act that way...

It's either false advertising and a malicious act from ASUS for profits, bad QA/QC, incomprehensive testing, or something else. Important part is, ASUS's name is on the back of the device and they're responsible for putting out a device that meets its own specifications or actually doing something about the situation since they didn't.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I've compared my Epic 4G Touch (it's also Super AMOLED Plus) on full brightness to the Prime, and the Prime blows it away. If the GT 7.7 is the same, then I'd still prefer the Prime.

But, your point is well-taken, and if I were looking for a smaller tablet the GT 7.7 would probably be my first choice (that Exynos processor looks nice). So, let's just say that the Prime is the only 10" tablet with a screen that's viewable in direct sunlight.

---------- Post added at 09:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:40 AM ----------

Look, my post was about the opposite--people who accuse those who like their Primes of being nothing but fanboys, ignoramuses, or morons. And come on, at this point ASUS isn't listing GPS on the specs (the fact that they still have it listed on the boxes is pretty stupid, granted, and would be easy to fix, but I'll bet there's only 1 out of 100 people who actually look at that line on the label and notice GPS listed there. That's as opposed to people who want to use GPS listed there as an excuse to force ASUS to perform some miracle fix).

The REAL bottom line remains as it always has: it should be perfectly clear to anyone who visits XDA that the Prime's GPS isn't going to work the way they want if they're looking for a navigation device with a 10.1" screen. There's a small percentage of people who bought their Primes before the GPS issue became widely known and who couldn't return them, and those people have a legitimate gripe WITH ASUS--but I would think that even they would be all complained out by now.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if you knew about the Prime's GPS issues and kept it hoping it would be fixed after ASUS announced they were removing the GPS specs from their marketing materials, then that's on you. If you're still within your return period, then stop complaining about it, return yours, and buy a different tablet that has the GPS functionality you're looking for.

What some people want is for the Prime, with all of its other great features, to have perfect GPS. It won't, ever. ASUS has stated this clearly enough. The mere fact that it has a GPS chip on it is irrelevant at this point--it's really best to think of the Prime as being like the iPad 2 and the Kindle Fire, i.e., it's a tablet that doesn't have GPS capabilities. That way, you won't be disappointed. And if you're one of those people I mentioned with a legitimate beef, then take it to ASUS directly; continuing to complain about it on THIS FORUM is just beyond reasonable decorum at this point.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wirelessFREAK:
I don't know what your expectations are, nor are someone's expectations worth a dime.

Sub standard is getting a big mac with one patty. You can say, 'well, I never really eat the whole burger' or 'that still tasted better than my expectations'... A big mac SHOULD have two beef pattys

They set some specs, they need to have them work "as expected"

This is not opinion alone, this both our legal right and what we should expect as consumers.

You can split hairs and reply to the bigmac example as others did with the snowblower one. The point is: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY LIST, NO MATTER WHAT, WE SHOULD RECEIVE IT
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pdanders:
Dude, return the damn thing if you want something that will work as a navigation device. My wife has a tf-101 that works great.

Quit crying about this like a baby. It's just a product; if you aren't satisfied, return it. I mean really, this is ridiculous
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bluewr:
I don't care what your beef is, nor do I care, the device worked for both of us, and met our expecation, frankly, your opinion means nothing to me, as I'm the one using my device, and is happy with it, so I care about my own opinion.

I'm not sure why other people enjoying themself, seems to somehow make you react as if your own life is in danger.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wirelessFREAK:
I'm not here to argue, and I've lost interest in explaining how a promised spec should work.

I hope the few us that accept being given less than what they ordered, are happy with what they got.

My Asus TF was returned a while ago. I'm waiting for samsung to release a tegra3 tablet. They have proven to be a better manufacturer
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] alantam7:
Hello

I just root the Nook tablet, and I can copy some files into the 11G internal storage via root explore .

But I can't find these files when I use other software.

Could you please tell me how to find these files.

Thank you in advance!

BR

Alan.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] wonshikee:
I can't seem to get this GS4G into download mode.

I've tried every conceivable combination of vol and power and plugging in usb and battery pulling that people have listed on xda and various sites.

When I plugin the cable to the phone and the battery is in, it goes to this loading icon with 8 petals like a flower, but it's not animated.

If I try to boot the phone, it just goes to the t mobile logo and stays there.

Any other suggestions? I was able to get it into download mode once, but can't seem to replicate - and when I did, all I did was vol +/- and plug usb.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
You've tried it exactly like this right?

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Download_Mode
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] wonshikee:
Yes, as well as the "more" link below, which even has GB versions.

Does the flower loading icon give any clue to anyone? I don't' see it mentioned in any thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Well the flower loading will come up when the phone is in charge mode when you have the phone shut off.

I'm sure it's not recognizing your button combination.

You might wanna try holding vol + and doing the same steps. If that doesn't work you can try vol - and see if that works. The key map for download mode might have gotten changed when you flashed a ROM. What'd you try to flash anyway?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] wonshikee:
I got this phone from someone else so I have no idea.

And yeah i've tried just + and just -, also vol + power combinations.

The soft keys seem to work while it's charging.

Fact that I was able to do it once gives me hope that I can do it again somehow. I seriously regret battery pulling after putting it into download mode -_-.