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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] palisaide:
You could always use cloud storage. Sugarsync gives you 5GB for free. Also, you could try running an FTP server app on your phone and then connect to it from your computer. I've used FTPServer in the past and it has been pretty quick to transfer lots of data.(https://market.android.com/details?...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
yeah, i've thought of that, my internet at home isn't that great though. 6Mbps down, 1Mbps up. so cloud storage hasn't worked that great for me in the past, but maybe i'll give that ftpserver a shot.

BTW, i would like absolute confirmation that if i choose Wipe data/factory reset in CWMR Touch 5.504 beta 3 it won't erase any of the data on /sdcard.

as i've read, any CWMR won't erase the sdcard partition, but doing that through ICS, will.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] palisaide:
Isn't CWMR 5.5.0.4 the non-touch version? I was using 5.5.0.4 and I can confirm that "Wipe Data/Factory Reset" does NOT erase anything on /sdcard, but I haven't actually done it in any other versions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Hmm... what about using terminal/adb shell to build a .tar(.gz) of /sdcard and just copy that over to your PC?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
sounds like a good idea if possible. correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't that allow you to use adb to restore all of your sd contents as well?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
idk, mine has touch. not sure when/how i updated to it though. good to know that it doesn't though. thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crachel:
rsync backup for Android

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=871307

Since you're on Windows, you would need to setup an SSH server. People in that thread have done this. A Linux desktop would make things a tad easier though.

This is how I backup the microSD on all my phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I believe so. You'd of course have to find some other folder on your internal storage (not /sdcard) to store the tarball while it's being created.

Or heck, adb should be able to do it all for you:

adb backup -shared -noapk -nosystem

*should* (according to adb help output) backup your /sdcard to "backup.ab" in the current directory

adb restore backup.ab

*should* then restore it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crachel:
Also, checkout "adb backup"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1420351

Allows you to set a flag to include shared content (the microSD). You could probably get it to backup just shared content.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
so i've gone through my whole sd card trying to figure out exactly how much data really needs to be backed up, and it's not much. biggest thing ist he 1.5GB CWM backup. everything else is pretty tiny.

so i'm thinking of giving the cloud a try.

are there any that anyone can recommend? I'm hoping for one that i'll be able to choose what folders to backup and have it automatically do it at a time that i set.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I like dropbox + the DropSync app - best two-way cloud sync I've found yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mskip:
Assuming you can get an MTP connection with your pc then try copying across the sdcard folders 1 at a time to back them up. First time I tried to back up the entire contents in a single go it seemed like it was stalled but it was actually just trying to work out how long it would take before starting and probably would have succeeded if left long enough. Copying the android folder and sometimes stall a copy so do that last.

Alternatively if you dont want to use cloud storage (which would take quite some time depending on upload speeds) you could try the backup option in my ToolKit which uses the latest version of adb and will give you an option to include internal storage in the backup file. Just make sure to check the backup file size after it completes as that function is a bit buggy in adb and has been known not to restore everything such as pictures and music so copy across what you can before starting.

Mark.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
Thanks to both of you. I was able to do files one at a time and get them over. and luckily nothing was that big, except for the CWM backups. freaking 1.5GB, that alone is the reason why i wish i had a 32GB phone.

good to know that the toolkit has that option. i'll be sure to use that if i ever need to do a full backup in a hurry.

The dropbox dropsync solution sounds interesting and i'm gonna give that a try. basically i'm just trying to make sure my backup files from apps that don't use cloud syncing will be secure in case something ever goes wrong. with having only 13Gb in the phone i'm keeping most of my big stuff like movies in a 32gb microsd that i'm connecting with an OTG cable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Although I don't think the tone of the first line of your OP is conducive to soliciting help, I'll thought in my two cents anyway.

The contents of your sdcard is located in /data/media. If you connect your phone to your PC, and open a command prompt in the same directory as your ADB.exe file, the following command will copy everything from your sdcard to your PC in a folder called sdcard_backup:

adb pull /data/media /sdcard_backup

Although not speedy by any means, I've successfully backed up over 8GB this way.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CONTACTMC:
sticky recovery. As above, just want plane stock, kernel, radio with root and clockwork to stick, can anyone hook me up? Cheers!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sean1984:
just flash this after you flash clockworkmod
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CONTACTMC:
Thanks guys, I know all of this already, I have clockwork installed, am rooted etc... I am just looking for a pre rooted stock rom which won't touch clockwork which I can just flash and done. I know there were a few in the dev section, but can't find any working download links for them, hoping someone has one of em saved. I have a i9023 btw. Thanks again.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bedalus:
Give the method by degiovab a try:

Won't matter what stock ROM you are on. Then flash or reflash cwm recovery, reboot to recovery and flash the above zip that Sean1984 posted.

kernels ; battery ; ROM ; gov/sched

Now with summaries in the first posts. Convenient for XDA app users!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acharn:
I am using the Samsung email client on my Galaxy Note, but it is defaulted to a black background and white text. I believe before I upgraded to 2.3.6 that I could have a light background with dark text. Does anyone know how to change the Samsung email app to light background with dark text? (Not talking about the Gmail app).

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LordManhattan:
Yeah, I've looked for that option for weeks now! I remember i used it on 2.3.6 since my Note came with 2.3.6, but i can't find it anymore.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeromepearce:
Go to Menu -> More -> account Settings

the last option in the menu is 'Background color'.

Nothing like hiding a really useful option way down in the settings eh :mad:?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acharn:
Yeah, that option is no longer available. It was there, now it isn't.
[Off-topic] sleekgreek:
I'm starting to feel ripped off with how long these upgrades take. I mean when you have phones manufactures posting profits in the millions and billions, yet they wont hire the manpower to get these updates out, it gets old. I have an evo3d, and feel like we should have ICS already. I know when I had a palm pre, at launch, the armchair programmers did more for that phone for free, then palms paid programmers ever did. Thats what I dont understand, if these rom guys can do so much in a couple hours after work, then why can't these paid 8 hour sh%theads get the job done in a reasonable amount of time. Just like my acer 100 tab, when you buy it they say january have ICS, after you've bought it, now its april maybe. Ridiculous. Just venting I suppose, although I feel its a justified vent.
[Off-topic] nitrojuga:
I'm not sure why they don't update things faster either. I guess it's just that a new version of android would confuse the majority of users. idk
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Why would android OEMs want to upgrade their old devices? They get their money from selling more phones, if your g1 was officially kicking ICS, why would you want to upgrade? It's sales strategy. If you want updates, go to pretty much any other OS.
[Off-topic] vetvito:
This is partly true, this rest is garbage.

Another thing is, people who want upgraded OSs are in the minority. So it just doesn't make since to put resources into stuff people don't care about.

A lot of my friends are still on IOS4.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Are there any programs that will only work on ICS that you absolutely must have?

There's none in my case.

My phone works great, so why do I need the OS updated to the latest?
[Off-topic] Archer:
99% of the time I'd agree with that, but I'm fastidious when it comes to having organised bookmarks. I use Chrome at home and at work and have bookmark syncing enabled. I've used ChromeMarks to access my Chrome bookmarks on my phone, but I've always wanted it to be part of the browser.

Enter, Google Chrome for Android. It does the bookmark syncing.

I literally have ICS on my S2 for that 1 reason. Even with a few bugs and lags every now and then (it's still beta, after all).
[Off-topic] sleekgreek:
I find the people not wanting updates comment as b.s. As for them not wanting to update to sell new phones, I agree with that, but as a consumer it gets tiring having every penny milked from you in one way or another. I buy a new phone outright every year, I have an evo3d, so comparing its update to something like a g1 is ridiculous at best.
[Off-topic] vetvito:
^ as stated you're the minority. The majority don't buy phones for updates. Hell most don't know what OS their phone has.
[Off-topic] bacnat86:
if they dont update it you will be more willing to upgrade your phone sooner. They have nothing to gain from spending time updating there phones when they can slap a slightly better os on a slightly better phone and get you in a new two year contract.
[Off-topic] vetvito:
Correcto, thats why carriers love Android so much.
[Off-topic] sknight13602:
because the programmers get paid for it so they have no hurry. the dev community wants to use it so they put alot of hours and concentration into and get it out. I feel your pain man
[Off-topic] thebobp:
This.

This is the most common candidate for being the main reason. Why make people content with the last Big Thing when you can instead beef up and get them hyped for the next Big Thing?

But then why schedule the Ice Cream upgrade for the SGII just before the SGIII comes out? Beats me. Maybe companies are just schizophrenic. Maybe it's a genius plan to make people fume into wanting the SGIII (people tend not to to change their minds once they've made it up) while ensuring the people who can't afford it still remain happy after six months. Maybe it's just a publicity issue (Samsung needs the positive publicity of coming out with ICS, so they'll eventually need to follow through, but not until the very last moment). Any explanation seems likely to me at this point.

This is why it's generally best to buy a future-proof phone. With the Nexus, for example, you'll be able to get indefinite upgrades from google (even if you have to go through a few hoops). The easier something is to unlock (and I suppose: the more popular it is so that more devs are working on it), the more likely you'll be able to keep your phone upgraded yourself, even if you'll have to go through a few hoops to do so. You can't rely on your manufacturer*, and you definitely can't rely on your carrier to have your best upgrade interests in mind.

Of course, if you get a new phone every year (or even every two years), this isn't so much of an issue for you. Most people probably do this (indeed, the very system encourages them to do this), and so there's little incentive to actually change the system.

*This is supposedly where Apple excels, but at what cost..
[Off-topic] psychephylax:
I can answer that....

You see, all the armchair programmers have a disclaimer that says "We are not responsible if we break your phone..It may, or may not work as expected and if it blows up your phone it's not our fault"

A huge corporation like Motorola/HTC/Samsung/LG/Nokia/etc have millions of users worldwide with a large set of carriers that all want to tweak the user experience to what that particular carrier wants to standardize on. The phone manufacturer may build what they think is a perfectly reasonable piece of software (ALL software has bugs by the way) only to have it kicked back by the internal quality assurance team because it fails a particular test case. And when you have several dozen/hundred developers working on software it's a coordinated effort to meet internal timelines and goals. And if it passes the internal testing it has to be tested by the carriers who can reject the software build due to bugs/user experience/last minute enhancements which triggers the whole cycle all over again.

Smaller development teams where it's a few people working on code do not have as much overhead and probably don't have as much internal testing processes for all possible corner cases as a huge company does so they can coordinate and release a build much quicker.
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
As said above, the biggest issues are that Devs here and elsewhere have no responsibilities if the upgrades fail, and secondly, there are a ridiculous number of devices being released. There are about 100 android devices available as current phones, and I don't know how many total. Rather difficult to keep so many up to date. It would be nice if they would scale back how many products are out at once, but manufacturers don't seem to get that yet.
[Off-topic] sleekgreek:
I just dont agree with that, after being with the palm pre from its launch, through all the manual hacks we had to implement before preware, then finally recieving an update months later that couldn't compete with the unofficial code from the guys over at precentral. There is a problem there. I understand there is alot of red tape involved with official releases, but even given that, the time frames are still ridiculous to the point that there is nothing reasonable about it. As awesome as the pre was it was missing basic functions, functions that were there in the code, perhaps they wanted to follow apples model of screwing the customer into the next model, idk. The fact of the matter is, there is no reason why htc or acer or samsung, despite touchwiz and sense and cant push out a nice update in a timely manner, none.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
In the UK where contracts (compared with what I've seen in other countries) are actually pretty good value, you get a new phone for free or not very much every time you renew your contract.

After even a year, there are much better phones out there, the phone you have may be a bit scuffed around the corners, battery will be down on capacity.

So most people upgrade when they get a new contract anyway.
[Off-topic] chrisjz:
It kills me when i read about the supposedly new "jelly bean" that's supposed to be coming out within the year. Seriously? get ICS out on more phones before you even THINK about releasing another update. Who knows the actual reason behind the delays for these updates but someone needs to get on it. When some of the newest phones out right now still don't have ICS or won't for awhile, there's something wrong.
[Off-topic] I Am Marino:
The obvious plan is to push people to buy the newer quad core phones, more contracts, more money, not to mention if there's a premium because they're "quad core" just like then 4G first came out.
[Off-topic] Shano56:
the majority of people buy what their salesman makes look good. some chick at the t-mobile store i was in bought some old phone cuz it was a few bucks cheaper than a new phone, which is like twice as fast and will have support at least 6 months longer than the other..
[Off-topic] chrisjz:
This is true. A while back when I was trying to buy my first smartphone I ended up buying an original Droid just because of the salesman telling me about buy one get one offer, after reading about them, I had found out that this phone was so outdated, luckily I had found out before my 30 days.
[Off-topic] PeartFan40:
People upgrade regardless of updates. Most people want the latest and greatest, regardless of wether it sports ICS.

Sent from this life sucking device otherwise known as the Galaxy S II (SGH-i777), using another life sucking app know as XDA Premium :D
[Off-topic] Simo-ita:
ics rock hard i need very soon
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
no, most people don't care. Us techies upgrade regardless.
[Off-topic] majic12:
I dont think you should feel ripped off... When you bought the phone there was no guarantee about when a updated would come into play, if ever.

A salesman will tell you anything to buy the phone and lock into a contract...If you did your own research on your own you would know that most updates never happen or happen very late...not hating on you but just trying to help you realize this when the next phone you buy doesn't get a quick update.

Im just thankful for all the great developers here who have made all of our phones perform better and customizable... Without them we would all be screwed!!!

I wouldnt think a manufacturer would even bother to update an old OS knowing that when a customer wants more goodies that will be available on a new phone/os they have no problem dropping the cash for a new phone...its what has made Apple billions and everyone is following that business model now...

only reason to update a system is to fix bugs and to keep the 5% of the people that care about an upgrade happy...95% of the people could care less if there phone is working like it should

---------- Post added at 01:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ----------

wanted to add that it takes alot more than a couple of hours to do what your asking...manufacturers need to retrain all their developers for the new OS and then spend many many hours trying to test and perfect their updates...all the while they are developing new phones that need the same testing and developing... There is no manufacturer on earth that is going to take away from their profits just to update old devices that are being phased out to begin with
[Off-topic] ElectroBeijing:
Sometimes the ridiculous wait times between updates seems stupid...okay, it always feels stupid. I feel bad for my friend on a Droid 3, and my other one on a Droid X 2, because I know they won't get ICS until May most likely, when I've been rocking it on my HD2 for a month now. However, I've never really thought about it too much; I wouldn't even consider buying a device unless it has a large development and support community, so it's not like I'm waiting for the carrier/manufacturer to roll out their updates anyway! [ but I sympathize with the people who don't root for warranty or whatever, have low activity devices, or are unaware of the awesomeness of custom ROMs/tweaks.]
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Apple does it. If that's not a good enough answer, windows phone does it. It's the same OEMs for the most part, Microsoft actually just cares about their end.
[Off-topic] PeartFan40:
Most people don't care? Cell phone sales are through the roof. And a fair amount of people add a line just to get that hot new handset. Samsung sold more than 4 million Galaxy S II' since launch. And that's just the Galaxy S II. There's also the Note variants, HTC's...more people care more about the hardware and feature set, than updates.

My .02 cents.

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[Off-topic] Vilzu:
I feel ripped off too these updates on android take way too long to come out. Coming from iOS where even 2 year old devices would get the update the same day their flagship phone got it, in comparison to this the android update process seems really slow
[Off-topic] WolfV2:
And that is why there are ROMs.
[Off-topic] majic12:
the constant comparisons to IOS are silly... your talking about 1 OS and 1 basic phone...compared to the 600 phones operating on android...

Its been beat to death but just root your dang phone and enjoy the phone customized just the way you want it... It will perform better than any manufacturers update with no restrictions...
[Off-topic] lilotimz:
If i recall correctly....

20 million + galaxy s2's

(all variants) were sold worldwide......

just sayin'
[Off-topic] theizzardking:
to me this is a stupid argument, all of the phone manufactures are companies that want to be in business as well, they get google's OS and develop it to work on their product, i see this as no different then the laptop or PC industry, all of the issues people have with their phones could be avoided if any of these companies gave a crap, you're just talking longer cycles in product development by a few months, because let's be honest all of the tech is out there to make a great phone that would be the phone to kill all other phones, but it costs to much and takes to much time to make even if we're willing to pay for it. there's more money in turning out crap 3x's a year as opposed to turning out 1 good quality/solid but expensive product a year, which to be honest i'd rather have

and this is where apple is winning and driod manufactures are screwing up, you don't have to compete with every device out there, you just have to complete with apple, ease of use is a b.s. statement it's all the same, it's just one icon looks different between OS's you operate both in the same fashion.

most people i talk to say the only reason they have the iphone is reliability, well wtf, why not take a year and develop the reliable andriod phone that everyone wants instead of turning out 3-4 pieces of crap every year.

Also you have to take into consideration most people aren't geeks like us here,

what your saying to the average consumer is you don't like the fact your " new car/phone "doesn't work the way it should so you should just take it to a shop swap out the engine and do some mods to make it work right, NO WAY IN HELL would you be making that same argument about a car or any other product you just purchased and companies relying on people like the member's of XDA to fix the crap they screwed up is ridiculous , again if this was any other industry there would be lawsuits for pushing products that are basically half way completed on the software side.

if apple wasn't such jerks about content control i would have gone there along time ago, the ONLY reason i'm with andriod is because it plays nice with all of my content , well that and i just hate apple on principle alone.

It's really annoying that i've been with andriod since launch and they still haven't gotten it right since 1.0 in 2007....5 years of development and still can't get it quite right ...... whatever though, i'm done with my rant, point is shouldn't be blaming the consumer for the messed up crap that goes down and shouldn't expect the end user to have to "hack" their phone just to make it as functional as advertised on the box which is the case with most phones as there's always a few features that never quite work right.
[Off-topic] JesseMT4G:
I don't understand why people on this site would be so impatient about any update to another OS, when you can just as easily root your phone and do custom ROM's and the like.

Also if you couldn't upgrade, it isn't like the phone has been rendered useless. Some people need to come off their soapbox.....IMO.
[Off-topic] red12355:
Because custom ROMs are often unstable and don't have all the features.