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[Off-topic] bman212121:
I'm definitely annoyed by the lack of updates as well. Anyone with a HTC Trophy SparkW phone knows that other parts of the world who have the same phone have the latest updates. All of the work is already done it's just Verizon that is the gate keeper on whether or not we get the updates. Thankfully there is the modding community otherwise we might not get those updates even though they are available for the phone.
[Off-topic] brd912:
Smh. You'd think that ANY xda member would understand the phone industry by now. Buy the phone you like, that maybe has good dev support. Of you try to keep the latest and greatest, you will be upgrading every 2-3 weeks. True story
[Off-topic] OmegaRED^:
I wanted a multi-touch device..

I was sold the Sony Ericson Experia x10.

1. only got one update.

2. the specs did say multi touch online.... buggy dual touch was implemented by XDA dev's.

3. the device overheated and drank thru the battery even with data disabled.

4. the shop denied me asking for a multi touch device by saying "whats multi-touch"

5. My phone gets sent in for repairs... it's more laggy and buggy then ever.

6. Vodafone ignores the fact that their shop keeper lied to me.

7. Vodafone Still after 10 years of "service" cannot supply me with a stable signal as 2 cell providers fight to the death at the pace of holding hands for public cash.

As you can see.. once you paid for it... it's junk and no one want's it... not even the 2nd hand stores want the junk..

It was my first droid.. so i wanted a good experience.

But i learned from it... i found XDA.. my x10 taught me what android should not be.
[Off-topic] plainjane:
I hate it when people call Android phones "Droids". "Droid" is a name Verizon coined for some of their phones, it isn't the name of all Android devices.

Person: "Ooh you have a Droid."

Me: "No, I don't. I have an Evo."

Person: "Yeah but that's a Droid, duh."

smh.

Sorry, I saw it a few times in this thread and thought I'd add to the *****ing and moaning.
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
Atleast we not get screwed like Apple does with it users. When they released the iOS 4.0 update for iPhone 3G they screwed the them, making it really slow.

That was the moment when I sold mine iPhone 3G and came to Android. And I read Apple did now the same to iPhone 3GS users with iOS 5.

Just google on iPhone 3GS slow after iOS 5 update. I rather have an good update which improves things then an update which makes things slower.
[Off-topic] usaff22:
Well look at my phone.

Welcome to the HTC Wildfire.

>Got one official update, 2.1 to 2.2.

>No GPU, not even Adreno 130

>ICS is barely working, it is laggy as sh**

>524MHz processor (obviously single core)

>MIUI was never working on GB, there is an ICS port, but no camera, slow etc

>Max safe overclock speed 768MHz, otherwise goes into a bootloop or worse, battery sucks on 768mhz

>Was given the phone as "it is the best phone at this time", keep in mind this phone was released in July 2010, was given it in March 2011, already outdated on first day

>Impossible to find the HTC Wildfire on HTC's official page, only a Google search with this can help "site:htc.com Wildfire". Then scroll down, find the australia page. Change "au" in link to "uk" and THEN it will work properly. It is almost as if HTC doesn't admit this phone exists
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
HTC Wildfire was an budget smartphone. What to expect off such phone?
[Off-topic] theizzardking:
you expect it to work but maybe have less features and not as good build quality as a more expensive phone, but you expect the software and hardware package to work as advertised. even on a budget phone. i would expect HTC to support any device they make with the most current OS for 2-4 years depending on popularity. You buy a product with a serivce attached to it (usually a 2 year contract) you expect that device to be supported through the contract at least.

Which leads me to a question for my fellow XDA'ers, Who sets the production cycle? is it the consumer? or the corporation?

do they not make a good solid long lasting product because we're willing to run out and buy a new phone every 6 months to a year ? or do they purposely rush products to market knowing that they'll just push a new model out in 6 months if it doesn't quite work right?

so what is it fellas? chicken or the egg?

i know personally i'd be willing to pay more then what i am now for a phone that had all of the features i want and worked perfectly, i'm personally willing to dump large $$$ into my handset vs. what i spend for my service, meaning that a high quality device that can be used over multiple networks /services and plays nicely with my work computer and my media, i can care less about contract price vs non contract price if i know it will last and do what i want....and what really really sucks i keep feeling like im talking about apple here with regards in what i want, but f that, i hate apple and their business model so much i almost wish i was steve job's pancreas ...

that said what do you guys honestly think though, who drives the phone cycles?

also side note, even on ANDROID there has been released updates across many phones that have actually slowed them down to start with before releasing and update to fix the update that the original update was meant to fix.

let's just be happy these people aren't responsible for testing and implementing the software in aircraft or missile launch controls, lol
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
So when you got it not worked as advertised? They don't promise to give you ICS or something like that.

Yes you only got one update. But like mine gf would say: Equal pay equal work.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
I expect them to resolve any firmware glitches which cause the phone to not perform as advertised.

For instance if I had a phone and it was forever crashing due to the stock ROM being badly written, then I would expect the company to release an update.

If they didn't then I would expect the retailer to resolve the issue either by fixing the ROM themselves and releasing an update, or swapping my phone for a different model, but then in the UK we have consumer rights which enshrine in law that if an item is sold it must be fit for purpose otherwise it's up to the retailer to put right.

I wouldn't expect them to release OS updates on a low end phone like the Wildfire unless it was the only way to fix any software issues.
[Off-topic] theizzardking:
i think your failing to see it for what it actually is,

you have 2 cars a lexus and a toyota, the lexus costs $30k more and has more options and higher quality materials used and a nicer design, that's what you get for your extra money over the Toyota or more expensive phone in this case.

i would expect the toyota/lexus car dealer to put just as much effort into fixing my cheaper less optioned toyota car as they do the lexus as both have the same warranty and both are from the same manufacture , toyota fixes all levels of their cars while under contract. that is called customer service, and every other industry works in this way, phones is the exception. you have a 2 year contract with a phone that's basically no longer supported after 5 months.

bull****!

or to put it another way

it's also like saying apple should treat the costumers who bought the 64gig ipad3 better then the people who only bought the 16gig ipad 3 because it cost more money, if you bought the 16 gig ipad 3 and the guy next to you with the 64 gig ipad 3 go his updates months before you how would you feel about this?

i mean you get what you pay for right? he paid more then you so he should get better customer service and support right?
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Think of it like this:

If Lexus bring out a more efficient version of your car, should they swap your engine over for the new efficient one, for free, if it's within your warranty period?
[Off-topic] usaff22:
I was given this phone, I couldn't choose and HTC could at least fix bugs in the OS. Sometimes I wish devs run large corporations...
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
They'd quickly go down the pan....

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Chances are the bugs were introduced by your operator tweaking the software. All the Wildfire owners I know in the UK have no issues.
[Off-topic] theizzardking:
in this case engine would be more equal to the processor, just like a car the engine/processor pushes it but the oil/software is what keeps it going.

and basically since you can't do oil changes on a phone , i would expect them to keep the software up to date. and the engine or processor was struggling at the job it was designed to do i would expect it to be fixed while under contract as well.

what we're talking about here is maybe a hand full of components that are spread out across all of the devices out there, just different configurations,

baring radio interference i don't really see why it's so hard to debug a new OS for their entire line up. you would think they would code up a program that could run a new OS through an emulator of sorts and check against most of the combinations of hardware, i mean really how does windows manage to do it, with the billions of pieces of hardware their OS runs on? remember before the whole certified windows plug and play thing what a nightmare updating was then, there's still problems but 99% it works great, i expect the same thing with my phone, it's not asking all that much is it?"

"For a company to support the product with the most current software and updates available while under contract"

If you think that is an unreasonable request as a consumer, that's your opinion and your entitled to it, but i for one think it is wrong to sell some one a device for 2 years then bail on them 6 months to a year later.

i could see your argument if i was *****ing about a first gen device that was sold running foyo and not getting ICS, that's just stupid and nobody can expect indefinite support, I'm just saying support it fully 100% for the length of your contract and when you ship it to the public it freaking works, like all of it!!!

Don't forget we're talking about BILLION dollar corporations here with the resources to make all of my dreams happen, let's face it i'm dreaming, as stating the way things should be vs. how they are and expecting things to change is a dream.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Ok if you can't see that the new improved version of your car doesn't equal a new cpu in your phone, lets.try something simpler.

Lexus bring out a new version of your car with a better feature pack, a blue ray player, pressure sensing tyres, sunroof, air con, sat nav, heated seats and they call it Improved Contents System where as your model came with General Body.

Should you get a free upgrade to Improved Contents System?

While I'd expect them to maintain my General Body car, such as fix the design flaw with the handbrake, or update the firmware in the ECU so the engine runs smoother, I would not expect to get an upgrade to Improved Contents System.

Likewise if I bought a Dell with Windows7, if Windows8 was released within my warranty I wouldn't expect a free downgrade to it (see what I did there? ;) )

I'd still expect bug fixes though.
[Off-topic] DexterMorganNL:
Comparing CPU's to Cars is stupid because your country will probably not allow you to use the power off the car.
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
This whole thread is just stupid....

Where are the mods when you need them... :rolleyes:

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] usaff22:
Most operators here in the UK don't tweak the ROM, mine came de-branded as well
[Off-topic] theizzardking:
:)

I get that and see your point with the os and bugs just do happen, but honestly don't you feel like the manufacturers could be doing a better job with all of this? Every device I've ever had I've had to flash roms for it to get better stability and usability, i guess i just don't understand why the members of xda basically kick the shnizz out these billion dollar companies paying people's yearly wages to create this stuff. Esp when the dev teams here usually are working on a few phones at a time in their spare time and these companies could hire a crack crew for a single phone for months.

I'm lazy man, I'd rather not have to root,mod,flash my device to make it fully functional and have it run smooth , i just want to enjoy it.

Basically

why is the xda crew better then the industry crew since the beginning?

Why does it take so long for the industry to catch up with xda and other devs of the sort?

Why is it every phone has got some glaring flaw or lag issues of some sort , they know they have limited resources to begin with so make good use of them without killing the performance, xda rules at this in general, every single manufacturer fails at this .

That was a stupid post....what's a mod going to do for you in an off topic forum section with a thread title that's obviously a whine , i don't get what you were expecting here?

Personally i appreciate the above response , sometimes you need to rage and then have someone make you feel stupid before you can see things in a different light , fair enough eh?

Tbh i need this man, every year or two i need a new phone either i broke it or contract is up, then I go through this rage cycle of why nothing out there really works the way it should and basically the Santorum you see before you now.:D

So thanks for taking the time xaccers !

Also sometimes you do get that free upgrade to win8 if its only been a bit since you ordered win7, lol, my comment on that was more in line with why doesn't Google say all components must be plug and play certified to be used with their os like Windows does in interest of rolling out updates and making life easier for all of us who throw money at them? Or do they already? I've been around a long time in the tech world but admit i don't know the bigger picture here , help fill me in please!
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
You're right, the mods do nothing around here, it's a disgrace....

With regards to the topic, your looking at this from the point of view of a geek/power user, these companies do not cater for the likes of us, the majority of people using these phones do not even realise the OS can be upgraded.....

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] xaccers:
I do feel the pain of you guys over that side of the pond, you do seem to get a rough deal when it comes to stock ROMs fiddled with by operators.

Over here where there is less and often no meddling at all, I don't know many people who've rooted their phones.

I've never needed to, but if your phone has been handicapped by the operator then I can see why a custom ROM would be attractive.

Having said that, looking through the threads for custom ROMs there are so many that have issues with stability or features missing, which suggests that some XDA developers at least have a long way to go before getting as good as the pro's.

I know it's not a great example, but my old HD2 now runs Android for my gf to use, I've found a decent ROM that performs well, but every few months may need rebuilding as components will fail (if I catch it and reset permissions that seems to resolve the issue for a few months - no idea why I'm not a dev). The last time it happened I picked a newer ROM from the same developer, listed as suitable for daily use. It wasn't. Slow and clunky, it was a pain for her to use so I went back to the previous ROM which runs much better.
[Off-topic] freekaleekuk:
I have an LG Optimus 3D, in New Zealand we still don't have GB....
[Atrix 4G General] nivv123:
ii have unlocked phone. yeserday i recived request to update my varsion , and i agreed . and than my phone rebot itself and when i turn it on it's show's the massage: "failed to boot 4 starting rsd mode".

thank u
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jasonhunt007:
HAHAHA...I am a new verizon user with a Moto Droid Razr Maxx or MDRM for short. Anyway, I love the phone, and just have some anxiety about 2GB data limit...anything over is $10 per 1 GB. Today, however, I look on the V website for offers and they have one 4GB for the price of 2GB of $30/month. Just change the plan, nothing else to buy, it became effective immediately. Hurray!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] buck i:
That's a good option for users locked into the tiered data plans. Luckily I have a grandfathered-in unlimited data plan. I do a fair amount of streaming and would easily go over the 4GB amount, let alone 2GB.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tribalb:
Or you can get lucky and see if the loophole still works. Some ppl in the rezound forums still claim it works
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MBL85:
That is a great option for tiered data plans. I too am grandfathered in to an unlimited plan. Sometime in the future Verizon is going to force us all to the tiered data plans. When that happens I'm going to be pissed and I'm jumping ship for another carrier with unlimited data.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jasonhunt007:
this is where you change plans for the unlimited data mobile hotspot and then drop the hotspot feature and are left with unlimited data for about $20-30 per month?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tribalb:
Yea. Basically when you call you only ask for the unlimited hotspot. Once its done. Go online and remove hotspot and ur left with the unlimited data. Simple as long as a rep is willing to do that for you. If you get denied. Hang up and try again
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thunderbolt33:
I'm specifically looking for imo's 6.0 lean kernel.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donnyp1:
Its over at rootzwiki under tbolt dev forums. Have you done a google search?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] expeacer:
IceCreamSandwich based

MIUIv4

for

Xperia phones!​

About ROM:

Based MiniCMSandwich AOSP Android 4.0.3 RC1

Based on Miui 2.2.10

Updated Google Apps

Added Aroma Installer

Added leaked htc EndeavorU wallpapers and ringtones

Chrome working! (Go to Settings-> Developer Settings-> Check Force 2D GPU, then uncheck. Then reboot!)

What Works:

Radio (Phone Calls & SMS ..)

Wifi

Bluetooth

GPS

Audio

Camera [buggy with original Camera app but works good with external app]

USB Mount

ADB

SD-Card

All Sensors

Market & Google Apps

SuperUser

What doesn't work ?

USB Tethering

some fc from miui internal problems.

Data

you tell me..

Pictures:

​

Install:

Install the kernel

Download the ROM

Copy the ZIP to Memory Card

Start CWM

Make a Full Wipe (factory reset, mount & storage > format /system, advanced > Erase Dalvik cache)

Start the install

Follow the instruction

After first boot if you can't see anything, only the statusbar, reboot your phone!

Only works with MiniCMSandwich Kernel! If you try another kernel, some things (ex. WiFi) will NOT WORK! You can download it from this thread. Don't forget to hit Thanks button! ;)

>> Download links! <<

Mini Pro

Minihttp://hotfile.com/dl/147105316/6f9d423/update_ExMIUIv4_2-2-10-r1-ST15i.zip.html

http://hotfile.com/dl/147105316/6f9d423/update_ExMIUIv4_2-2-10-r1-ST15i.zip.html​

Credits:

MIUI, MIUI-AU team

lenny_kano & proxuser

kamarush

amarullz

Gustavo RD78 - for the Mini test

Don't forget! This is still Alpha version.

Of course the ROM has got many bugs, I think, I implemented all AOSP and MIUIv4 bugs into one ROM.

If you will find solution/apps for AOSP or MIUIv4 on the net, pls post it to this topic, if you want better ROM to our devices.​
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] expeacer:
Looking for Active/Live with Walkman tester! If you want to testing, feel free to send me a private message!​
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] edwarddd:
Thank you so much !!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kem06:
Data is working?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] nimbold:
Wow finally MiUi on our xperias! hope to see it on others too ;)

Thanks in advance
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] smyth12:
Yeah.. IS data working or not?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] victor32:
What doesn't work ?

USB Tethering

some fc from miui internal problems.

Data

you tell me..

(:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] razerblade17:
can u port it for xperia mini?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] expeacer:
I'm working on it ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jitin02:
Can you please please upload this to other link as it is really difficult to download from this link, trying whole day, cant go up than 2%. Yet speed here is "1.47mps"
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ngchoonghao:
looking forward to it! =)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] expeacer:
I will got a fileserver today, and I will upload to it :)

The problem: the most online file sharing site support 250Mb max file size. This file is 255Mb...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] razerblade17:
i can test for mini if you want...if you already done it..i'm waiting for download link~ thanks men
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
I've wrote here how to port:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22671421&postcount=266
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Snoopo:
cool cool col. everything is cool. I like it :)

but one little small thing: this is no release candidate as there are features missing. It is irritating when you read "RC" install it and it feels like an alpha testing software. (e.g.: data does not work)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
The -r1 means /revision 1/ not Release Candidate
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] delmarz:
can you please add ultimate ios 5 themes like other miui did?.. thank you
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] expeacer:
It's not a custom ROM, it's a official MIUIv4 port. I will NOT add anything, which useless...

In the next version you will can use themes.

By the way pls link ROMs, which uses this IOS theme :rolleyes:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] razerblade17:
When the next vesion will be release for mini?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] smyth12:
At the time of my post the "What doesn't work?" section didn't include data.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] feed3:
Are hw keyboard including SYM key fully working ?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jitin02:
Over all nice ROM, nice effort , thanks for porting sir

But some bugs i found , (i know some are already posted on OP)

1. Keyboard have no lights

2. Keyboard Blue, symbol, space bar Doesn't work

3. I cant add APN . I manually add but when i hit save everything disappear.

4. The POPUPS: like when you choose animation type for the launcher and other this kindof popup appears the screen goes shatered (Like: a shraded paper). on most of the times screen goes like this, like black and white stripped and it goes black

5. The inbuild widgets of MIUI are OVER sized. something are oversized, such as miui inbuilt clock widget, bootanimation (would be good if HTC is removed from bootanimation).

6. Rest internet stuff i could test as i coulnt connect.

I donot know if there is solution for any of the above. please let me know. i would like to use this rom regularly even if there are small bugs . as this is my secondry phone. as main phone i use DELL STREAK. pls let me know if i can test anything else(loved to be beta tester for this )
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] akshay13071990:
when it is going to release for xperia mini
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] duckysempai:
Sym key isn't working. So have no idea how to type numbers with the physical keypad. Had to change the default onscreen keyboard to get things working right. Has anybody found a way to import sim contacts? Can't seem to be able to with the default contacts app.

Can't wait for more releases :) Think this will be my go to rom from now on. Thanks expeacer!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] delmarz:
ok here is the link that ultimate ios5 themes for miui http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/theme-ultimate-iphone-theme-21-10-revolution-7-0.2618/ Thank you :D