yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistermentality:
A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.

If you need proof check out http://ipod.about.com/od/decidingwhichipodtobuy/a/iphone_chart.htm that compares og iphone with all others and see how the features and chips etc have changed...and that's in an iphone which is not as advanced as its similar priced android rivals yet iphone performance for newer handsets is worse than original even with faster cpu.

Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.

Dave
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistermentality:
Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.

If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.

Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?

Dave
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ninja42:
Couldn't agree more
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] binlad:
its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.

1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.

i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.

no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.

thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.

exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.

i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources. Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.

From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.

As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] D00mSlayer:
Try rebooting. Always helps.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistermentality:
I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.

Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.

The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.

Dave
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] binlad:
i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.

its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.

i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.

yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.

i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.

really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..

yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.

hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.

The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.

You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone:confused:

Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that. You UC the CPU and you should expect things to run slower.

Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.

As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.

Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistermentality:
Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.

If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.

A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.

Some apps also start just because you change from wifi to 3G etc and again you can configure these apps in the same way.

A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.

I love my android phone, I can watch a high def 3D movie on it while downloading isos or music and I can play games on it and do photo editing etcetera so I am biased toward it but ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.

Dave
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] binlad:
how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.

no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.

you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:

1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?

2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?

3) can you install any android app?

4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?

5) can you list a few cryogen roms that are best for battery and performance?

6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?

no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.

you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.

exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.

i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.

i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.

and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.

i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.

its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.

i totally agree.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
Android copied IOS? Really please do tell me how? Mainly as IOS took things from android like the notifications system. As for MIUI I explained in your other thread about why. I really think you need to do a little bit more research on what your doing. The questions you are asking about installing apps is android 101.

Now After Selling cellphone and plans for the past 10 years I think I know what sells an OS and what doesnt.

You are not correcting me. You have shown me no proof about IOS. You can say its better and I can say its not. It is all about what someone wants and needs. Like I have an old 4G that my GF used as a starter smartphone that lags and sits in a drawer. No OS is perfect so there is no point in arguing about it.

Your right my phone doesnt lag due to being sense less. Not to mention over clocked to 1.2 with 30 hr battery life.

As for what are the pros and cons of each. There are many to each. Doing some research will give you all the info you know.

Now you really seem not to like Android and will never be happy with it. Nothing anyone can do or say will be able to make you happy.

Remember this is a development site so you are expected to put in a little work, like search and reading. No I will not link you to themes that are easy to find. We dont spoonfeed here.

As for me comparing the cars to the OS it is very accurate. Android is made to be tweaked and messed with. If you cant see the diff then I am sorry. Trying to insult people is really kinda pointless. Mainly when your the one asking for help. Let alone insulting someone that has been modding phones long before you knew what modding a phone was.

As for installing other OS on android. The simple answer is no. The only phone that can dual boot Different OS is the HD2 and other WM devices that can boot android.

So here is what I will say. Try them all out and make up your own mind. Now one will be able to tell you what you like and what will work best for you. Android is about tweaking and making it your own.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solarspeed:
Buy an iPhone and stop playing dumb. You clearly do not understand, and do not want understand a single thing.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Prankzter:
Solarspeed id right you know just go back to the iFail. I sold my 4s and got the LG optimus 3D i had to do sone work with the roms and modem to get it to run on 3G but u know what thats the brilliance with android is the fact its so open!!! Plus on a better note im not tied to itunes lol
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistermentality:
As for filesystem lag the discussions I know of were specific to samsung devices and their filesystem which was proprietary. For proof see the page at xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897 which includes links to a lag fix.

That lag fix is to return to androids filesystem type and therefore if doing that fixes lag it is not androids filesystem causing the lag or else using it on samsung would not eliminate it.

Dave
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistermentality:
First...android came out first and could not copy ios as ios is closed source.

Second...ios has copied android a number of times most recently with its pull down notification system.

Third....if your saying phone only lags because of sense then your also saying its not androids fault, surely, as sense is not part of android but a manafacturers add on.

Fourth....your wrong about the filesystem causing the issues. Please read about filesystem impact at www.nothingbuttablets.com/6881 and you will see androids system is actually better and is why it can use sd cards etc while iphone cannot.

Fifth....his comparison about iphone being kia and android a supercar (which is the usual example rather than a mustang, outside usa at least) is one also made by others and I will explain why.

Supercars are complex beasts that have lots of cool features but need tuning to get the best out of them. You can do more with them but they can be harder work.

Kia cars are less complex, they don't do as much but they do it well and you don't tune them. They are less exciting and more basic but as a result more reliable in everyday use.

This is usually the reason for such comparison.

Dave
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] binlad:
well since you sound like you have little experience with MIUI, i'll ask someone else more qualified. youre not even able to answer questions that are android 101.

you havent made your point. you havent shown the fundamental comparisons between iphone and android. you made the mistake in assuming that i said that the iphone is better when i never made that statement. and you said that you got an iphone 4g that lags... please dont make me laugh.

you dont have 30 hrs of batt life being overclocked, unless you hardly use it.

now you seem really hateful of apple and iphone. and you then accuse others of hating android when they compare it to ios. nothing anyone can say will convince you that youre wrong.

remember that youre not a dev so dont think youre one.. people out there fool themselves into thinking they got the intelligence to be devs when in fact they dont.

as for me saying that iphone doesnt lag compared to android, its extremly accurate. any idiot can walk into a celll store and notice the lags on android. android is not made to be tweaked. for example, when it comes to theming the dialpad, its alot of hard work on android. but on the iphone, its easy. stop offending those whove been modding phones since they came out long before you knew one existed.

i dont know what youre talking about cuz i never mentioned dual booting. again, your assuming things people never said.

so i'll try some roms and give it a shot. android is about tweaking and making it your own ONLY within its limitations.

hi, mistermentality.. thank you for submitting proof that android phones need a fix for their lag. hopefully, zelendel can read the link you provided and finally understand what we're all talking about.

also, i dont think this fix is for all android phones, just for this specific samsung phone.

yes youre correct.. excuse the misinformation.

no, im not saying that android lags cuz of sense. they lag cuz of its filesystem. this has been discussed and known before.

i'm not wrong.. please read these 2 links:

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/12/android-lag-attributed-to-core-system-framework-here-to-stay

http://techland.time.com/2011/12/07/is-android-doomed-to-lag-more-than-ios/

your comparison is moot. its already been proven that android has a lagging problem, objectively and sujectively. any further discussions upon this topic will be subject to intentional misinterpretation.

get a girl and stop thinking youre straight. you clearly dont understand, and dont want to understand a single thing about being a man.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
I have humored you in your noob quest. But that last insult was over the line.

Thread closed
[Vibrant General] gun:
I've bought few phones from other people in the past for resale/fix and I have to say 3/4 of those phones contained naked pictures of those individuals men and women. What they do this for? I don't know. Why they don't bother to at least delete them? I don't know. It is bizarre to me I just don't understand it. Why would I wanna have naked picture of myself in front of a mirror on my own phone?

Also if you ever sell your own phone and format SD card internal and external this is not enough. Your personal files could still be easily recovered. I use this to completely erase sd card:

Disk Wipe
[Vibrant General] maracuya:
Yup, you can. Just turn USB Storage on and locate the external SD Drive Letter, right click>Format>uncheck "quick format".
[Vibrant General] dpaul007:
Found the same thing on my phone when I bought it used. They weren't very good looking individuals but the dude was well endowed.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
...what the eff ahahhahah
[Vibrant General] iwillkillyou:
People are perverted. They send those naked pictures to people online or friends. It's a trance like sexting.
[Vibrant General] gun:
I'm surprised that long format is not an option in Android nor in any custom rom. No Google employee/nerd thought about it?

I found that a lot of people save their personal stuff on their phones SSs, CCs, account numbers, passwords, bills, tax returns etc.
[Vibrant General] SeanFloyd:
At least it wasn't beastiality.
[Vibrant General] Dougfresh:
Maybe they want you to come back and buy some MORE phonesies!Yuck lol:eek:
[Vibrant General] bearsfan85:
I brought a used g2, had porn in an .mov format along with all sorts of wifi information and address's of the guys house
[Vibrant General] Rahhstah:
My phone didn't come with free porn :( Just Avatar, that was corrupt half way through.
[Vibrant General] Tynen:
you should make a website: **** people left on their phones
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
my phone just had a a guys **** on as the wallpaper. I bought a Nexus One quite a while ago, ordered it through Craigslist, guys **** as wallpaper i laughed. My mom opened it first though so she was like WTF and accusing me of being gay hahha
[Vibrant General] gun:
how about school teacher sextexting some guy with her ugly black vagina and some lesbian apps. I think she would not be allowed to work with kids anymore if i gave the phone to police.
[Vibrant General] jwleonhart:
:rolleyes: Got some pics of any chicks? :)
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
I would honestly report her, i wouldn't want someone like that working with my kids.

( i don't have kids but if i did, i wouldn't want a teacher who sexts people her "ugly black vagina" to teach anything to my kids.)

I'm sure if you pm gun he can give u the "ugly black vagina"

ew

As for me i've got plenty of pics of naked girls from school. It gets around haha.
[Vibrant General] Dougfresh:
I've had some hot teachers in the past I wouldn't have minded a little sextexting or some slow-he*d!!yeah true story
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
>.> true that. Fantasies... oh fantasies.
[Vibrant General] JediDru:
Being a homosexual has nothing to do with being a teacher. That's like saying I don't want African Americans teaching my children. Its the 10's already lol.
[Vibrant General] JediDru:
I've got an old playboy with a girl that looks EXACTLY like my old American history teacher sophomore year..... now 10 years ago wtf?
[Vibrant General] Dougfresh:
I'm confused!

What are we talking about

Huh?

WWWhaattt

---------- Post added at 12:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:28 AM ----------

Anyways I just bricked my phone! I haven"t done that in a while! Maybe I should put up another thread on "HELP!I Bricked my phone can't get past the vib screen:("
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jullejul:
Hi, my problem is that games have started to lagg, and I only got 82mb if ram left, is that normal?

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Herman76:
What android version are you running?

Are you stock / rooted?

What ROM are you using?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Lol so I made my own app in about 30 minutes haha. It's not good at all but still pretty cool. It's just a stupid thing I did just to see if I could do it. Feel free to download it if you want.

It just has a few features such as:

Hawaii News

Google Map of Oahu

Events and Ticket information

Hawaii Warriors Athletics information

Keep in mind, I only worked on it for 30 minutes so it's pretty bad but I'm going to keep working on it because it's a nice concept.

http://db.tt/cAgDZR58
[LG Revolution] ufkal:
Love it!!! Great concept!
[LG Revolution] drt054:
Lookin good SPC..

sent from my V6 Supercharged LG Revo BlueVolt :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] whpsnp:
Just came over the Risk clone Landrule.

I've been a fan of Risk for many years and Landrule is really good. I've played it on my HTC Desire Z and on my Transformer. It's definitely playable on the phone but on the tab you can see the whole map without scrolling which is a big advantage.

Search for Landrule in Market :)

EDIT: here's the link https://market.android.com/details?id=com.pixamark.landrule
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] pimjai:
Best version of risk i played so far on android, love it. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imsotall:
I was downloading a couple of images from my Gmail account yesterday. The images appeared to have fully downloaded but when I look at my notification bar is says they are both still in the process of downloading and there is no way I can kill the process. I have downloaded Advanced Task Killer but I cannot stop the process from in theree. i have rebooted a couple of times as well but the download activity starts up again.

Any ideas?

I am running AOKP Maguro M3